[12:00] <nightw> why can't i see 2.6 kernel sources and images?
[12:00] <mwe> gimmulf: oh it was wrong as well
[12:00] <mwe> gimmulf: it's /etc/X11/rgb.txt
[12:00] <mwe> gimmulf: or /etc/X11/rgb rather
[12:01] <gimmulf_> mwe:  mmm and i dont even think i need to specify that
[12:01] <mwe> gimmulf: I guess it's the default so
[12:01] <gimmulf_> mwe:  it should be done automatically in newer xorg versions
[12:01] <ailean> I wondered if someone could help me set up the eye-candy . . . i've tried to follow the instructions, but i keep getting the error that there is no composite extension. can someone help?
[12:01] <mwe> gimmulf: yeah. how did that line get in there?
[12:01] <skippy81> Anusien:  from the live CD you should be able to run "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda"
[12:01] <gimmulf_> mwe:  good question :>
[12:02] <mwe> gimmulf: hmm. whatever it's fixed now
[12:02] <Anusien> skippy81: you mean /dev/hda1 ?
[12:02] <gimmulf_> yep :)
[12:02] <LinuxPose> whats the default root password on ubuntu?
[12:02] <gimmulf_> !fonts
[12:02] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[12:02] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxPose about root
[12:02] <mwe> LinuxPose: it's not set
[12:02] <LinuxPose> i try to log in
[12:02] <LinuxPose> and it denies me
[12:02] <skippy81> Anusien:  nope just /dev/hda, because you are aiming to write grub onto the master boot record of hda
[12:02] <LinuxPose> i only put in 1 password
[12:02] <Anusien> oh
[12:02] <redrum_> ah
[12:02] <mwe> LinuxPose: huh, as user?
[12:02] <Anusien> okay, gonna put windows on /dev/hda1 then
[12:02] <Cynox> Hello! Does anyone here have problems with mplayerplug-in in mozilla? It works in firefox but not mozilla and I can't find any way to debug it
[12:03] <Madpilot> LinuxPose, use your user ID & password when you login, and sudo when you need admin privs
[12:03] <TinyIRC> hello
[12:03] <TinyIRC> I have a quick question about WOL
[12:03] <Madpilot> LinuxPose, there is no root pw by default in Ubuntu, and there's no need for one.
[12:03] <skippy81> Anusien:  im thinking , do you have a floppy disk drive?
[12:03] <LinuxPose> ahhh ok
[12:03] <xgllo> I installed kubuntu after using gnome and ubuntu have i just hosed my system? new to linux its acting funny ever since i tried kubuntu kde desktop
[12:03] <Morrowyn> cynox, i always had troubles with mplayer
[12:03] <Morrowyn> plugin
[12:04] <Cynox> Morrowyn, it used to work before the dapper upgrade
[12:04] <conman23456> LinuxPose: Madpilot is right, but I do setup the root account for a password anyway. Run sudo passwd to set a root password if you really want to.
[12:04] <Morrowyn> ok
[12:04] <Anusien> skippy81: nope
[12:04] <brosio> anyone known a programs with stream radio similar to stramtuner ?
[12:05] <johnnyrusso> Bot_Builder: so u think il have better luck with the x700 and the 32bit version ?
[12:05] <Anusien> skippy81: this is a second PC though
[12:05] <TinyIRC> in order to enable the WOL on my NIC card I did (like I did on my previous Debian SID box)
[12:05] <Cynox> and, all plugins in the firefox directory are symlinks to the ones in mozillas plugin dir
[12:05] <Otacon22> LOL, all, try to search in google "a" or if you have firefox write a in address bar, anyone can imagine what is tha fist page that appear...
[12:05] <mwe> conman23456: please keep that a secret to force people to read the wiki page
[12:05] <TinyIRC> created a new script in /etc/init.d/rc.d/WOL
[12:05] <Morrowyn> weird
[12:05] <Thumann> hey guys.. any decent guide to get alsa working? ich5 chipset..
[12:05] <skippy81> well does your ubuntu PC have a floppy drive Anusien?
[12:05] <kimbaroth> Anyone know how to delete some items that refuse to be deleted from the "Wastebasket"???
[12:06] <Anusien> skippy81: that's what i meant.  no
[12:06] <skippy81> basically if you can make a boot floppy it will be the safest way of doing it
[12:06] <skippy81> ok np
[12:06] <Bot_Builder> johnnyruso - well, doesnt have to be an X700, but yes, 32 bit helps
[12:06] <skippy81> Anusien:  can you surf the internet from your Live CD?
[12:06] <johnnyrusso> Otacon22: agilent tech inc???
[12:06] <TinyIRC> that contained run ethtool -s eth0 wol g
[12:06] <johnnyrusso> Bot_Builder:  why?
[12:06] <skippy81> basically i want to make sure that if it goes wrong you can get help from us
[12:06] <Anusien> skippy81: yeah.  I have an ethernet connection on it, when I go to liveCD
[12:06] <Hexidigital_> Otacon22:: i'm guessing apple.com?
[12:06] <TinyIRC> then ln -s /etc/init.d/WOL S25customWOL
[12:06] <Cynox> I'll file a bug against mozilla or mozilla-mplayer, then
[12:07] <conman23456> kimbaroth: have you tried deleting it from the terminal?
[12:07] <TinyIRC> in /etc/rc0.d
[12:07] <Anusien> I can install windows on an external hard drive?
[12:07] <kimbaroth> conman23456: Nope, how do I do that??
[12:07] <Bot_Builder> johnnyrusso: The 64 bit ati drivers don't really work in my experience, especially if you throw in something new like PCIE (X700, X800)
[12:07] <Hexidigital_> Anusien:: that's a question for ##windows
[12:07] <skippy81> ok Anusien, in that case i suggest 1) install windows to partition1 2) boot up live CD and install grub to the MBA
[12:07] <johnnyrusso> i see
[12:07] <Anusien> Hexidigital: No I'm just confused that I can
[12:07] <kimbaroth> conman23456: I dont know the path to the Wastebasket
[12:07] <fabioFx> hi.. any know as to change the locale to ISO-8859-1 in dapper?
[12:08] <ltibor65> Hi guys! Please help me! I want to install a program from source, but it says: bash: make: command not found.  What to do?
[12:08] <Anusien> skippy81: how is "install grub to the MBA" different than what you told me before?
[12:08] <Hexidigital_> Anusien:: sorry, misread it
[12:08] <mwe> fabioFx: yeah. why would you though?
[12:08] <conman23456> kimbaroth: put it on your desktop, and run rm /home/(your user)/desktop/(file)
[12:08] <Anusien> ltibor65: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[12:08] <johnnyrusso> alrite well in 1.5 hrs ill know; now heres another questinon; ill definelty have to install ubuntu; will i be able to do it in safe mode from the cd?
[12:08] <mwe> fabioFx: everything is tuned for utf-8
[12:08] <skippy81> its the same thing Anusien, that command i gave you should do it
[12:08] <Bot_Builder> jonnyrusso - I know its dissapointing not to be able to use the extra 32 bits on your cpu, but it really isnt that big of a speed difference
[12:08] <redrum_> johnnyrusso: yes
[12:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys, will firefox update to 1.5.0.4 anytime soon ?
[12:08] <johnnyrusso> ok
[12:08] <wubrgamer> how do i force it ?
[12:08] <spikeb> nou, it won't
[12:08] <Burgundavia> wubrgamer: yes, at some point
[12:09] <mwe> wubrgamer: it wont
[12:09] <spikeb> erik, no.
[12:09] <spikeb> agh
[12:09] <skippy81> install-grub /dev/hda will write grub onto the master boot record, but you also need to point grub to the /boot/ driectory on your linux partition
[12:09] <johnnyrusso> Bot_Builder: yea i dont mind 2 much considering i use windows xp now and its only 32 bit
[12:09] <spikeb> nou, it wont update the actual version
[12:09] <spikeb> stupid autocomplete
[12:09] <nou> sorry :)
[12:09] <johnnyrusso> altho certain apps use the 64
[12:09] <Bot_Builder> johnnyrusso: Yes, the live cd is very cool - the installer is just a program in the live cd version of ubuntu
[12:09] <mwe> wubrgamer: programs stay at the released versions
[12:09] <wubrgamer> why not ?
[12:09] <spikeb> sorry nou :)
[12:09] <Morrowyn> im off all, cya
[12:09] <mwe> !tell wubrgamer about ff1.5
[12:09] <spikeb> wubrgamer, because once a release is made, the version number is final. only backported fixes will be made.
[12:09] <Burgundavia> wubrgamer: ubuntu disables the autoupdater and rolls their own sucurityupdates
[12:09] <mwe> wubrgamer: I think I told you how to install the new version
[12:09] <Bot_Builder> jonnyrusso - yeah, i tried windows 64-bit and it didn't work very well either.  Driver problems galore
[12:09] <WebMaven>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY greyhame
[12:10] <Anusien> formatting...
[12:10] <kbrooks_> Burgundavia: it doesnt "disable" it
[12:10] <kbrooks_> Burgundavia: i updated already in dapper
[12:10] <Burgundavia> kbrooks_: the autoupdater from Mozilla? yes, it is disabled by default
[12:10] <wubrgamer> urguh
[12:10] <johnnyrusso> lol @ webmaven
[12:10] <fabioFx> but i would like to use iso-8859-1 :(
[12:10] <kbrooks_> Burgundavia: oh sorry
[12:10] <Hexidigital_> webben:: perhaps you should change your password
[12:10] <Hexidigital_> webben:: sorry
[12:10] <mwe> WebMaven: : oops. I'll hax0r your box :)
[12:10] <wubrgamer> how do i enable it ?
[12:10] <Seveas> WebMaven, /msg nickserv set password new_password
[12:10] <fran22431> I have a Mac G4, when I boot from the CD, After giving the boot command the screen turns blank and the CD continues to spin and the stops. Any ideas?
[12:11] <kbrooks_> Burgundavia: i thought you were talking about update-manager
[12:11] <wubrgamer> i just want it to work......
[12:11] <Hexidigital_> WebMaven:: :: perhaps you should change your password
[12:11] <redrum_> botbuilder win x64 is almost useless
[12:11] <fabioFx> mwe: but i would like to use iso-8859-1 :(
[12:11] <mwe> fabioFx: why would you like that?
[12:11] <jrattner1> Is there a newsticker for gnome similar to knewsticker for KDE?
[12:11] <jrattner1> ?
[12:11] <Bot_Builder> redrum_: yeah, i went back to 32 bit the same day
[12:11] <WebMaven> ok, ok, I've reset the nickserv pass.
[12:11] <wubrgamer> how do i install it again ?
[12:11] <Bot_Builder> though now my 32 bit instalation has died
[12:11] <wubrgamer> without compiling ?
[12:11] <Clapaucius> hi guys, would you know why my ubuntu gets slower and slower as uptime increases? how often should I reboot?
[12:12] <Seveas> Clapaucius, breezy?
[12:12] <Clapaucius> yeah
[12:12] <fabioFx> my server use that
[12:12] <Blissex> Clapaucius: too little detail, but odds are ever growing web browsers etc.
[12:12] <Bot_Builder> Clapaucius - system monitor might help in diagnosing the problem
[12:12] <ltibor65> Anusien, thank you very much, make works well now.
[12:12] <Seveas> Clapaucius, may be gam_server eating your memory
[12:12] <kimbaroth> conman23456: rm: cannot remove `easyubuntu (copy)/': Is a directory
[12:12] <fabioFx> mwe: my server use that.. to ftp
[12:12] <johnnyrusso> redrum_: win64 is useless except if u have software that takes advantage
[12:12] <crys> if I am hanging at boot due to a rogue wireless card - how do I boot single user mode to fix the startup script?
[12:12] <mwe> fabioFx: well
[12:12] <Blissex> Clapaucius: try fully restarting Nautilus/Firefox every now and then.
[12:12] <johnnyrusso> and it also has a lot better driver support than linux imo
[12:12] <kbrooks_> kimbaroth: rm -rf. "rm d" doesnt work.
[12:12] <crys> ...Networking script in particular
[12:13] <Clapaucius> well I just use it for bittorrent, virtually nothing else. it's an old PC, but it starts out pretty fast and responsive, then it gets gradually slower.
[12:13] <stringbling> are there any parental block packages for ubuntu or linux?
[12:13] <Roadrunner_> does dpgk overwrite my xorg.conf file, when i try to update kernel or x related packages?
[12:13] <BioVorE> noticing a intressting possible glitch with EMU10k1 and dapper..  master volume seems to be on the WaveSurrond Slider and not on Master.. weird..
[12:13] <redrum_> im waiting patiently for the day my hardware will be supported fully by any OS
[12:13] <conman23456> I recently upgraded to Dapper, and I can't connect to the internet past the first 2-3 minutes i login. It will work if I unplug the ethernet cable, and plug it back it for another 2-3 minutes, but then stops. I also had this problem in OpenSUSE. Everything is fine in Windows though. Can anyone help
[12:13] <redrum_> johnnyrusso: that's all very good if your hardware has drivers
[12:13] <johnnyrusso> redrum_: all major vendors do now
[12:13] <johnnyrusso> ati included :)
[12:13] <mwe> fabioFx: edit /etc/environment and change LANG and make sure the locale is mentioned in a file in /var/lib/locales/supported.d/ and run sudo locale-gen and reboot
[12:14] <kbrooks_> johnnyrusso: bundled, i mean
[12:14] <r0xoR> what's the command line way to update the synaptic repos?
[12:14] <kimbaroth> kbrooks_: Thanks, It Worked =D
[12:14] <fabioFx> mwe: thanks :D
[12:14] <mwe> r0bby: sudo aptitude update
[12:14] <hype> lut :)
[12:14] <XyMoX_18> holasss
[12:14] <johnnyrusso> kbrooks_: its not bundled but it will function until u can update
[12:14] <mwe> fabioFx: skip locale-gen if it already exists
[12:14] <Hexidigital_> r0xoR:: sudo aptitude update
[12:14] <hype> dites, qq1 sais comment fair  a sous dapper?
[12:14] <hype> sudo gedit /etc/init.d/local
[12:14] <hype> merde
[12:15] <hype> oops
[12:15] <skippy81> Anusien: are you still here?
[12:15] <hype> http://la7co.no-ip.org/special/Capture1.png
[12:15] <XyMoX_18> hay alguien ahi
[12:15] <basvg> hi all... I'm running dapper and I have sun-java5-jre installed. Any ideas how I can ff that I actually have java?
[12:15] <mwe> !fr
[12:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:15] <hype> oops, seems like i ve accidently joined the wrong channel =)
[12:15] <ciaron> hype: whats that a screeny of?
[12:15] <mwe> basvg: yeah. link to the plugin
[12:16] <hype> it makes you "ply" the window to see whats behind
[12:16] <mwe> basvg: using the ubuntu release of firefox?
[12:16] <hype> but when i try to drag a maximized window, it just unmaximise it :(
[12:16] <basvg> mwe: yep
[12:16] <XyMoX_18> join #ubuntu-es
[12:17] <Hexidigital_> hype:: is that XGL?
[12:17] <hype> Hexidigital_: yep
[12:17] <conman23456> I recently upgraded to Dapper, and I can't connect to the internet past the first 2-3 minutes i login. It will work if I unplug the ethernet cable, and plug it back it for another 2-3 minutes, but then stops. I also had this problem in OpenSUSE. Everything is fine in Windows though. Can anyone help
[12:18] <shrump_jimbo> what kind of network card conman
[12:18] <conman23456> let me check...
[12:18] <nbx909> sounds like a problem with the card
[12:18] <nbx909> or network
[12:18] <basvg> mwe: ah, I think there's something about it in the restrictedformat wiki page
[12:19] <ailean> any experts on xgl & compiz who can help me??
[12:19] <MidMark> guys is it possible to hear from rear speakers for all audio apps? Like totem ecc.
[12:19] <conman23456> nbx909: but nothing happened with any other distros. just the two.
[12:19] <mwe> basvg: locate libjavaplugin_oji.so in /usr/lib/jre or whereever the jre is installed and sudo ln -fns /path/to/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[12:19] <mwe> basvg: use the ns7 version
[12:19] <mwe> basvg: not the gcc29 one
[12:19] <shodanjr_gr> hey guys
[12:19] <Hexidigital_> well... have to go to work... have a great day everyone@
[12:19] <Hexidigital_> !
[12:19] <ubotu> Hexidigital_: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:19] <shodanjr_gr> anyone available for some support with the latest Ubuntu release?
[12:20] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: well that's the channel topic so shoot
[12:20] <basvg> mwe: uhuh, thanks.. I also found out that t here is a sun-java5-plugin package that works :) rats, should've read the RestrictedFormats wiki more carefully
[12:20] <shodanjr_gr> well
[12:20] <shodanjr_gr> first of all
[12:20] <patbam> if i have a cups server running on my desktop, the laptop should see it without me adding a ipp:// thing, shoudl't it?
[12:20] <shodanjr_gr> i got a laptop from hell
[12:20] <mwe> basvg: yw
[12:20] <shodanjr_gr> the Fujitsu Amilo A1400 or something, also known as the Compal CY-26
[12:21] <shodanjr_gr> Athlon Mobile 1400+ 256 megs of ram, radeon 320IGP
[12:21] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: yes
[12:21] <shodanjr_gr> Ubuntun wont start in normal graphics mode, but i can get it to start in safe mode
[12:21] <conman23456> shrump_jimbo: CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
[12:21] <shodanjr_gr> do i loose any sort of functionality if i have it start in safemode?
[12:21] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: well that's a good start
[12:21] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: yes you should fix it
[12:22] <jonx> is there an easy way to update my current version of firefox
[12:22] <shodanjr_gr> any suggestions as to how i can fix it?
[12:22] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: can you start X windows at all?
 [*]  Creating Menu, please wait.
 This needs the ncurses library. If it is not available, menuconf wont work. If you are using curses, use make menuconfig-curses instead.
 *** Signal 11
[12:22] <edvinasMD5> whats that?
[12:22] <shodanjr_gr> in safe mode it gets into Gnome perfectly
[12:22] <shodanjr_gr> and graphics dont seem corrupted or anything
[12:22] <wingo> i want to test my drives for errors like scandisk under windows.. how can i do this under ubuntu?
[12:22] <shodanjr_gr> in normal mode, X doest even start
[12:22] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: what happens in normal mode, did you say?
[12:22] <edvinasMD5> Hello
[12:22] <shodanjr_gr> i get to the point where the cursor blinks at the top left of the screen
[12:22] <shodanjr_gr> then it freezes TOTALY
[12:23] <shodanjr_gr> in a black screen
[12:23] <r0xoR> !repositories
[12:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:23] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: you need to paste.ubuntu-nl.org the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log after a crash of X
 *** Signal 11
[12:23] <jonx> how would i go about setting certain MIME types?
[12:23] <johnnyrusso> shodanjr_gr: do you have ati video card?
[12:23] <shodanjr_gr> mwe im running it off a live CD atm
[12:23] <shodanjr_gr> johnnyrusso yes, radeon 320M IGP
[12:24] <johnnyrusso> u need the ati drivers
[12:24] <kbrosnan> jonx, in help -> about firefox if it does not say anything about ubuntu in the box then try sudo firefox then  help -> check for updates
[12:24] <eSa|fdMenuSync> I'm a Debian user running amd64 and I want to keep in sync the menu entries related to applications installed inside the 32bit chroot. How ubuntu manages that?
[12:24] <eSa|fdMenuSync> is there a specific package?
[12:24] <johnnyrusso> !fglrx
[12:24] <ubotu> I guess fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:24] <mwe> johnnyrusso: will that work with that card?
[12:24] <shodanjr_gr> johnnyrusso can you elaborate on that? Im not really Linux-savy....
[12:25] <wingo> !scandisk
[12:25] <ubotu> wingo: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:25] <johnnyrusso> im not positive about that specific card but it does with all the newer xseries
[12:25] <brosio> anyone known a programs with stream radio similar to stramtuner ?
[12:25] <mwe> johnnyrusso: doesn't it fit the catogory < radeon 9200 ?
[12:25] <johnnyrusso> shodanjr_gr: click the link and read about it
[12:25] <shodanjr_gr> mwe yes its quite old
[12:25] <kimbaroth> Its possible to run Wine on ubuntu 64???
[12:25] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: so fglrx wont work
[12:26] <johnnyrusso> mwe: i thought the 320 was post 9200 series
[12:26] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: you should use the open source driver
[12:26] <shrump_jimbo> conman: here's a forum thread on your card http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54886
[12:26] <krazykit> wingo: fsck instead of scandisc
[12:26] <johnnyrusso> oh my bad
[12:26] <mwe> johnnyrusso: I don't know
[12:26] <shodanjr_gr> johnnyrusso its an IGP for a year 2000 laptop or so
[12:26] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: yeah dont try fgrlx
[12:26] <jonx> thanks kbrosnan
[12:26] <shodanjr_gr> i wont
[12:27] <jonx> is there a way to get the latest repositories?
[12:27] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: anyway I think the installer should default to that. you didn't actually install ubuntu yet?
[12:27] <wingo> krazykit, thx.. is there some kind uf gui for fsck?
[12:27] <shodanjr_gr> so any other way of getting it to launch in normal video mode?
[12:27] <mwe> wingo: nah. just type it it's not that hard :)
[12:27] <El_Donkey> Which channel should I aks about Windows email servers / networking?
[12:27] <msid> i installed ubuntu on different hardware and i moved it to new and hardware set. now it says that the X server cannot start cause it is misconfigured. how can i solve this. plz help me asap.!!!!
[12:27] <wingo> hmkay
[12:28] <Seveas> msid, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:29] <steff> hi all
[12:29] <wingo> mwe it warns me that its dangerous to use it on a mounted drive...
[12:29] <shodanjr_gr> anyway im doing a hard drive install at the moment
[12:29] <phrowzen> hey
[12:29] <shodanjr_gr> so ill be able to get any log files caused by a crash and give em to you guys
[12:29] <phrowzen> am i able to apt-get install k3b on ubuntu (running gnome)
[12:29] <phrowzen> will it mess my desktop up?
[12:30] <truzak> hello, is there a simple way to change Gnome to XFce desktop? (i.e. by selecting relevant packages)
[12:30] <El_Donkey> When will ubuntu have a easy (GUI) tool too mount HD's like beos had like what in the stone age!?
[12:31] <kimbaroth> Its possible to run Wine on ubuntu 64???, nobody??? =(
[12:31] <MacinMan> hey guys does ubuntu have a libdvdcss package? i'm looking at the package manager in kubuntu and it's not showing up
[12:31] <Morrowyn> hi, does anyone here has   hsf+ support on their ubuntu, if so, how?
[12:31] <kbrooks_> kimbaroth: dont run ubuntu 64, ever
[12:31] <kbrooks_> Morrowyn:
[12:31] <Kovecses> kimbaroth, is there a package for it?
[12:31] <kbrooks_> !fstab
[12:31] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions. See also !partitions
[12:31] <mwe> wingo: yes
[12:31] <kbrooks_> !partitions
[12:31] <kimbaroth> kbrooks_: dunno, thats why im asking >_<
[12:31] <ubotu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[12:31] <El_Donkey> MacinMan, try automatix
[12:31] <mwe> wingo: don't
[12:31] <Morrowyn> !partitions
[12:31] <mwe> wingo: run it from a live cd
[12:32] <shodanjr_gr> question numnber 2
[12:32] <El_Donkey> kbrooks_, cli is no gui
[12:32] <MacinMan> el_donkey where do i get it?
[12:32] <shodanjr_gr> anyone ever tried using a netgear WG511 card on Dapper?
[12:33] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: you probably need to use ndiswrapper.
[12:33] <r0xoR> how do i get the flash plugin to work in dapper? in FF 1.5
[12:33] <shodanjr_gr> ive read so here and there
[12:33] <shodanjr_gr> after the installation im gona try it out
[12:33] <mwe> r0xoR: install it
[12:33] <Kr0ntab> shodanjr_gr, if yer trying to get wireless to work.. ya need to find out what chipset the card uses.
[12:33] <WildTangent> r0xoR, automatix
[12:33] <MacinMan> thanks guys
[12:33] <r0xoR> mwe, and how should i do that
[12:34] <El_Donkey> MacinMan, you find it here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405 READ the thread for warnings and other stuff else you can use: EASY Ubuntu http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:34] <r0xoR> someone said easyubuntu... but easy ubuntu doesn't have it
[12:34] <mwe> r0xoR: personally I just downloaded the install from macromedia.com and ran it
[12:34] <r0xoR> ahh
[12:34] <mwe> r0xoR: but I think there is a package as well
[12:34] <r0xoR> i am wondering what the "ubuntu" way to do it is?
[12:34] <WildTangent> r0xoR, automatix will install it with no effort at all
[12:34] <Kovecses> !restricetformats
[12:34] <ubotu> Kovecses: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:34] <AlwaysIcey> Has anyone else had a case where if they start up normally, GMD fails to start.  But, if they start up in Recovery mode, they can use "startx" and get into their desktop (as root)?  If so, any suggestions on how to fix it?
[12:34] <kbrooks_> WildTangent: i had to bring you here just in case
[12:34] <r0xoR> Kovecses, i read that already
[12:34] <r0xoR> Kovecses, i have universe and multiverse both enabled
[12:34] <AlwaysIcey> GDM* I meant.
[12:35] <Kovecses> r0xoR, that tells you
[12:35] <mwe> r0xoR: chmod +x dowloaded_file && ./downloaded_file
[12:35] <r0xoR> Kovecses, still no flashplugin-nonfree in my list
[12:35] <DBO> AlwaysIcey, if you startx without recovery mode does it work?
[12:35] <Morrowyn> weeeee, nice
[12:35] <bungley> ughhhh
[12:35] <Morrowyn> my macced ipod works nicely under rhythmbox
[12:35] <jamunah> Is it normal for Ekiga to give an error sound error if you try to make a second call after having hung up from the first?
[12:35] <r0xoR> all that the restricted formats file said was "enable multiverse" which i have done
[12:36] <r0xoR> and still no flashplugin-nonfree in apt
[12:36] <AlwaysIcey> I can only start it in recovery mode.  If I try in an alternate desktop on the regular boot, I get the error that X is already running.
[12:36] <bungley> the synaptics mouse driver in dapper is rank
[12:36] <mwe> r0xoR: not succesfully it seems
[12:36] <dtorres> so why does apt make this so hard?
[12:36] <dtorres> how do i install flashplugin-nonfree?
[12:36] <r0xoR> mwe, ok well then how *should* i do it?
[12:36] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell dtorres about restricted
[12:36] <AlwaysIcey> I ended up killing the process for GDM, so I could reconfigure xserver with my proper settings (again)
[12:36] <r0xoR> mwe, seriously, i follwed the instructtions on the wiki
[12:36] <void^> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[12:36] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[12:37] <mwe> r0xoR: did you sudo apt-get update?
[12:37] <bungley> !info mol-module-macosx
[12:37] <r0xoR> i hit reload in synaptic... is that equivalent?
[12:37] <DBO> AlwaysIcey, are you in recovery mode right now?
[12:37] <mwe> r0xoR: paste.ubuntu-nl.org your /etc/apt/sources.lis
[12:37] <Kovecses> pffft synaptic
[12:37] <r0xoR> !repositories
[12:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:37] <dtorres> FunnyLookinHat: Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:37] <r0xoR> mwe, that one :)
[12:37] <mwe> r0xoR: paste.ubuntu-nl.org your /etc/apt/sources.lis
[12:37] <hype> nice bot ^^
[12:37] <mwe> r0xoR: paste.ubuntu-nl.org your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:37] <r0xoR> mwe, i copied and pasted it from there
[12:37] <hype> !xorg
[12:37] <ubotu> [xorg]  To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[12:37] <AlwaysIcey> No, right now I'm in regular mode.  In my normal user account.  I restarted X, and am at the grey screen with the X for a mouse cursor.
[12:37] <r0xoR> mwe, omg... you don't get it do you
[12:38] <hype> yeah !
[12:38] <Kovecses> dpes dapper have xorg 7?
[12:38] <mwe> r0xoR: i do now
[12:38] <r0xoR> mwe, ok good :)
[12:38] <DBO> AlwaysIcey, do you think you can get your gdm log into pastebin for me?
[12:38] <andi5> Kovecses: yes
[12:38] <mwe> r0xoR: that one hasn't got multiverse in it
[12:38] <ransu> why are the GUIs in Ubuntu painfully slow - they're unsable
[12:38] <AlwaysIcey> Not very easily. I'm on a Windows computer right now.
[12:38] <mada> ransu: install a different one
[12:38] <r0xoR> mwe, uhhh, did you even read it?
[12:39] <DBO> AlwaysIcey, ssh into the box from the windows machine and then just cat the logs out copy and paste style
[12:39] <r0xoR> ransu? what, gnome and kde?
[12:39] <dtorres> why does apt tell me: Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:39] <mada> any PowerPC users in the chan?
[12:39] <dtorres> ?
[12:39] <r0xoR> ransu, what kind of computer do you have?
[12:39] <r0xoR> mada, yeah
[12:39] <ransu> mada: I've tried KDE and Gnome
[12:39] <r0xoR> ransu, try XFCE
[12:39] <Kovecses> XFCE
[12:39] <r0xoR> ransu, that's fastER
[12:39] <jadaz87> dbo is there a ubuntu-server live cd
[12:39] <mwe> r0xoR: well I take that back. sorry it used to refer to the default
[12:39] <ransu> AMD Turion 1.8Ghz / 1Gb Ram
[12:39] <r0xoR> ransu, OpenBox and FluxBox are *really* rast
[12:39] <Kovecses> how do they make xfce look like that in xubuntu?
[12:39] <mada> r0xoR: thats right, i talked to you bout it the other day ... do you know how to set the hardware clock on an iBook?
[12:39] <r0xoR> er, fast
[12:39] <DBO> jadaz87, I wouldnt hold my breath... servers dont normal run xserver...
[12:40] <AlwaysIcey> where is the log located?
[12:40] <r0xoR> ransu, uhhh, ubuntu is not slow man... app launching takes time, but once things are cached everything runs quite well
[12:40] <dtorres> please, can anybody spend a few minutes with me to tell me why i am unable to install flashplugin-nonfree?
[12:40] <jadaz87> DBO:  i know but still, i had wanted to know if they had one
[12:40] <andi5> AlwaysIcey: there are differentl log files in /var/log
[12:40] <mwe> r0xoR: can you nano /etc/apt/sources.list and confirm multeverse is in there?
[12:40] <RandolphCarter> dtorres: are you running amd64?
[12:40] <mwe> r0xoR: multiverse *
[12:40] <r0xoR> mwe, that's exactly what i just did
[12:40] <skippy81> dtorres have you added universe and multiverse
[12:40] <dtorres> RandolphCarter: no
[12:40] <DBO> AlwaysIcey, /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[12:40] <r0xoR> mwe, i'm looking at it right now, in vim
[12:40] <dtorres> skippy81: yes
[12:40] <mada> ransu: wow ... its slow on a system like that? ... Ubuntu is crazy fast on my 1GHz G4 while running gnome
[12:40] <RandolphCarter> dtorres: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:41] <mwe> r0xoR: close synaptic and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search -n flash
[12:41] <dtorres> RandolphCarter: it doens't work
[12:41] <DBO> ransu, what is your cpu usage at?
[12:41] <r0xoR> mada, crazy fast? lol
[12:41] <CarlFK> !tell wpa
[12:41] <RandolphCarter> dtorres: don't just skip to flash, read from the top and it'll make sense
[12:41] <dtorres> RandolphCarter: Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:41] <r0xoR> mada, i don't know about that :P
[12:41] <mwe> r0xoR: if that is not working I'm lost
[12:41] <dtorres> RandolphCarter: ok
[12:41] <r0xoR> mada, i'm on a 1.4GHz AMD64 system and i wouldn't call it crazy fast
[12:41] <mada> r0xoR: well ... its fast compared to OS X
[12:41] <r0xoR> mwe, yeah well so am I... cuz it's not working
[12:41] <r0xoR> mada, true dat though :)
[12:42] <Hobart> I just added a new video card, so Ubuntu is predictably sad with me.  Is there a command line program I can run to ask it to re-do its detection mojo?
[12:42] <r0xoR> mada, this iBook sitting next to me is only 400MHz !!
[12:42] <r0xoR> but GNOME is actually not to horrible on it
[12:42] <jamunah> Where do I find the controls for full duplex on sound?
[12:42] <Hobart> r0xoR -> you say you've had your PC for over a week?  Throw that junk away man, it's an antique!  [/WierdAl] 
[12:42] <mada> r0xoR: and i think it has something to do with PowerPC, because my iBook is faster than my friends Centrino Dothan and we are both running brand new installs of Dapper
[12:42] <skippy81> Hobard "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:42] <DBO> Hobart, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:42] <r0xoR> jamunah, remind me what full duplex is again? you mean input output at the same time?
[12:42] <jadaz87> r0xoR: or better yet mail the ibook to me :-)
[12:43] <mwe> r0xoR: apt-cache search flash doesn't even list it?
[12:43] <RandolphCarter> Hobart: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p6 xserver-xorg
[12:43] <KaM> I can't install ubuntu because it dosn't recognize my hd
[12:43] <r0xoR> mada, well RISC is a superior architechture, always has been
[12:43] <Hobart> DBO -> Sweet!  You rock!
[12:43] <KaM> I've 4 hd
[12:43] <Hobart> DBO++
[12:43] <KaM> 2 sata
[12:43] <skippy81> RandolphCarter:  what does the -p6 flag do?
[12:43] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell dtorres about sources
[12:43] <KaM> and 2 ide
[12:43] <jamunah> r0xoR, Yes I understand it is not enabled by default but can't find where to do so
[12:43] <RandolphCarter> skippy81: skips the questions, does it automagically
[12:43] <Kovecses> you guys are dumb
[12:43] <xpcf> telefonbeszlgets: <kat> Olyan nehz nnek lenni. Menstruci, gyerek kihords, meg ezek a mellek. <xpc> *** Meg sem tud szolalni a nevetsetol.
[12:43] <livevil> hi guys, can you say me if there is a program like winrar for linux?
[12:44] <mada> r0xoR: something freaked out with my system clock, so bonobo died and nautilus won't load and my panel won't enable ... so i am running WindowMaker until i can figure out how to fix my damned hardware clock
[12:44] <skippy81> RandolphCarter:  ahhh :)
[12:44] <r0xoR> jamunah, what sound card do you have
[12:44] <RandolphCarter> skippy81: it may not be the best config, but it's like the 'automatic' detection :)
[12:44] <KaM> I want to install ubuntu on 1 hd ide
[12:44] <jadaz87> livevil: unrar
[12:44] <andi5> livevil: maybe fileroller?
[12:44] <mwe> r0xoR: is you computer not a pc?
[12:44] <mada> r0xoR: oh yeah, hands down ... and it's easier to write assembly for :)
[12:44] <livevil> thank
[12:44] <jadaz87> !unrar
[12:44] <ubotu> jadaz87: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:44] <skippy81> RandolphCarter: yeah its good, ill remember that one
[12:44] <r0xoR> mada, uhhh, that sounds like a hardware problem
[12:44] <Kovecses> flashplayer-nonfree Most CERTAINLY is there
[12:44] <r0xoR> mwe, no my computer is an Athlon 64
[12:44] <KaM> does anybody can help me?
[12:44] <skippy81> anyone who cannot see the flash plug in synaptic clearly hasnt added universe and multiverse
[12:44] <mwe> r0xoR: I don't think there's a plugin in the repos for that
[12:44] <ZeZu> that sentance doesn't make much sense
[12:44] <dtorres> FunnyLookinHat: i have added all sources
[12:44] <mada> r0xoR: it is, i have been all over the net and the fix is to reset/set my hardware clock, i just don't know how
[12:44] <skippy81> i can see it right now
[12:45] <r0xoR> mwe, my grilfriends iBook is a 750FX 400MHz
[12:45] <DBO> KaM, if you ask your question in one sentence so its easier for us to read you will have better luck =)
[12:45] <hollowlife1987> !upgrade
[12:45] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[12:45] <r0xoR> mwe, oh i'm not using the 64 bit distro
[12:45] <Kovecses> uncomment them too
[12:45] <livevil> A program that can create self extractor
[12:45] <KaM> DBO: ok
[12:45] <jamunah> r0xoR, Some inbuilt one SiS
[12:45] <livevil> A program that can create self extractor too, unrar can't do this
[12:45] <r0xoR> jamunah, hmmm, and why do you want full duplex?
[12:45] <jadaz87> how do you uninstall gnome?
[12:46] <dtorres> damn this is ultra annoying
[12:46] <r0xoR> jadaz87, with synaptic?
[12:46] <jamunah> r0xoR, Hoping it will fix my sound troubles
[12:46] <jadaz87> r0xoR: as in completely
[12:46] <r0xoR> jamunah, what are your sound troubles?
[12:46] <mada> jadaz87: i don't recommend it ... never tried it on ubuntu, it might die ... but just do "sudo apt-get remove gnome-common" ... should work
[12:46] <Kovecses> jadaz87, use add remove programs
[12:46] <r0xoR> jadaz87, yes i understand... but why not just install kubuntu instead?
[12:46] <KaM> I can't install ubuntu because it dosn't recognize my hd. I've 4 hd. 2 Sata and 2 ide. I want to install ubuntu on hd ide. Only Sata are recognize. How can I do?
[12:46] <[Seawolf] > hi hall
[12:47] <mada> hiiya [Seawolf] 
[12:47] <mwe> r0xoR: so apt-cache search -n flash doesn't list it. you did sudo apt-get update after making sure multiverse is enabled. that's a freaking mystery
[12:47] <r0xoR> mwe, lemme do the cache one
[12:47] <jadaz87> r0xoR: nope i am not going to use that
[12:47] <livevil> Please help me to find a program (Except unrar, that can't create archives) tha can create self extracting archives
[12:47] <DBO> KaM, what motherboard do you have?  (and is english your native language?)
[12:47] <r0xoR> jadaz87, k whatever
[12:47] <mada> mwe: you should try it on an rpm based distro .... its hell
[12:47] <KaM> DBO: I've a Asus P5AD2-Deluxe
[12:47] <mada> mwe: we are spoiled by apt :)
[12:47] <Kovecses> mada, yum and urmpi work just as well
[12:48] <r0xoR> the closest thing i can find is libflash-mozplugin
[12:48] <jamunah> r0xoR, I tried to install skype and had problems with it so I threw that out and now trying Ekiga but get errors there if I don't wait for some time in between calls
[12:48] <r0xoR> which, namewise doesn't resemble flashplugin-nonfree at *all*
[12:48] <mwe> r0xoR: yeah
[12:48] <r0xoR> so it's wonderful of them to have those instructions on the wiki
[12:48] <mada> Kovecses: don't get me started .... yum and urmppi are just as worthless as the old up2date system was
[12:48] <mwe> r0xoR: that's the free
[12:48] <DBO> KaM, if the installer isnt picking up the drivers I dont think there is really much that can be done...  =/  maybe someone else knows how to get stubborn IDE drives detected...
[12:48] <Kovecses> r0xoR, where did you paste your sources.list?
[12:48] <mwe> r0xoR: it's not picking up multverse
[12:48] <mwe> multiverse*
[12:48] <mada> i'm out
[12:49] <DBO> KaM, are you using the LiveCD installer?
[12:49] <r0xoR> Kovecses, i took it from the official one, the one you get when you say !repositories and ubotu spits out info
[12:49] <AlwaysIcey> I'm not able to ssh into my box from here.  The only way I know of to do it is with Telnet, and I don't have that on here.  So, I'm going to try and get in as root on the other computer and copy the log.
[12:49] <Kovecses> r0xoR, paste YOUR sources.list  somewhere
[12:49] <KaM> DBO: I've tried to use Live CD, Normal and alternate installation
[12:49] <r0xoR> mwe, actually it says it is, because synaptic claims to be seeing multiverse packages
[12:49] <KaM> DBO: I've tried to use Breezy and dapper
[12:49] <Kovecses> paste it
[12:49] <r0xoR> Kovecses, wow... i'm not stupid jeez
[12:49] <Whyvas> !mplayer
[12:49] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[12:50] <skippy81> anyone who is having problems with apt-get just try this http://pastebin.com/758628
[12:50] <mwe> r0xoR: It's really really really weird
[12:50] <DBO> KaM, with the live CD your IDE drives dont even show up in /dev?
[12:50] <Kovecses> r0xoR, just paste it nobody says your stupid
[12:50] <Kovecses> r0xoR, synaptic sucks... use the cli
[12:50] <KaM> DBO: It dosn't start
[12:51] <DBO> KaM, the live CD wont start at all?  what error do you get?
[12:51] <r0xoR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15100
[12:51] <RandolphCarter> Whyvas: you're better off with the SVN ffmpeg, x264 and mplayer right now
[12:51] <KaM> DBO: Live CD dosn't start because seems that It dosn't find hd
[12:51] <r0xoR> Kovecses, there ya go
[12:51] <Whyvas> x264?
[12:52] <pixel> hi
[12:52] <KaM> DBO: Other this I've the problem of video card Ati
[12:52] <pixel> Can you install Ubuntu on an existing HFS+ partition?
[12:52] <RandolphCarter> Whyvas: the x264 ffmpeg/mplayer were built against struggles a bit
[12:52] <DBO> KaM, are you sure its not having issues finding your CD drive?  that is a known issue with no resolution as of yet...  (the error looks like cant find hdc or somesuch)
[12:52] <Seattle_Mike> Using apt-get dist-upgrade, on a home server (no gui) stopped upgrade with Symbol lookup error or Perl warning about Locales ... any one have a suggestion?
[12:52] <RandolphCarter> Whyvas: but if you won't be playing h264 stuff, don't worry so much
[12:52] <mwe> r0xoR: and that file is /etc/apt/sources.list, all lower case in the file name?
[12:52] <Whyvas> what is h264?
[12:52] <r0xoR> mwe, omg man, yes
[12:52] <KaM> DBO: I don't remember exactly
[12:52] <RandolphCarter> a newish codec, iPods/PSPs use it
[12:53] <DBO> Whyvas, isnt that the format of HD-TV or somesuch?
[12:53] <mwe> r0xoR: I'm asking because it is so weird
[12:53] <DBO> KaM, and the breezy install CD doesnt work either?
[12:53] <Gerbils> anyone willing to test my webserver?
[12:53] <r0xoR> mwe, look man, i've been programming for 12 years and using my own linux boxen for 6, so you can ask some more important questions :)
[12:53] <KaM> DBO: Yes, the same
[12:53] <mwe> r0xoR: trying hard to figure what's going on
[12:53] <r0xoR> k
[12:53] <green_earz> DBO: did you download the live cd ? if so there may be a error on it ?
[12:53] <mwe> r0xoR: ok I didn't mean to insult you
[12:53] <KaM> DBO: Suse finds all hd without problems
[12:53] <r0xoR> mwe, no worries
[12:53] <DBO> green_earz, you are talking to the wrong guy =P  we are helping KaM...
[12:53] <green_earz> sorry
[12:54] <Kovecses> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[12:54] <fh|killy> hello
[12:54] <DBO> KaM, all I can suggest is what green_earz suggested, make sure your CD is good, otherwise you probably fell victim to the hdc not found bug  (wish I had that bug report handy)
[12:54] <Kovecses> try that one
[12:54] <BioVorE> hmm amarok.kde.org dosn't seem to be working today :-/
[12:54] <fh|killy> I'm trying to install Dapper via CD, but its getting stuck at "mounting root file system".  I have unplugged all peripherals, and am currently running Breezy with no problems
[12:55] <fh|killy> any ideas?
[12:55] <KaM> DBO: I'm sure that Cd it's ok
[12:55] <skippy81> r0xoR: open up synaptic and browse the catagories, can you see everything from multiverse except flash?
[12:55] <Kovecses> i hate the new installer
[12:55] <bob_> I'm fairly new to Linux, and completely new to Ubuntu. I'd like to install Ubuntu to my primary system which currently dual boots to winXP and Fedora Core 4. Is there any easy way to have Ubuntu overwrite the existing Fedora partitions and have my stem dual boot as before exceptt with Ubuntu instead of Fedora? I'd appreciate any help.
[12:55] <KaM> DBO: There isn't solution for me?
[12:56] <r0xoR> skippy81, yeah basically
[12:56] <sentinel> hi everyone
[12:56] <Gerbils> hi sentinel
[12:56] <KaM> DBO: is there a command to type before start installation that I can put?
[12:56] <DBO> KaM, none I know of...
[12:56] <mwe> r0xoR: I'm confused. maybe it's temporarely broken. can you find acidrip for example? that one is in multiverse as well
[12:56] <skippy81> bob_:  yes thats the easiest type of intall your going to get - just make sure you know which partitions fedora occupies
[12:56] <r0xoR> skippy81, i already reloaded in synaptic and it gave me a giant list of stuff that wasnt there before and now i have multiverse categories on the left
[12:56] <r0xoR> i'm trying to do this on PPC
[12:56] <Rayston> hello
[12:56] <KaM> DBO: ok tnks to all
[12:56] <r0xoR> and neither gplflash2 nor swfdec are found either
[12:57] <AlwaysIcey> DBO: It's saying in the log that I need at least 7680kb of video memory to run at the resolution and depth that I have chosen.  And it can't open /dev/wacom at all.
[12:57] <skippy81> r0xoR:  thats because those packages arnt availiable for PPC
[12:57] <RandolphCarter> r0xoR: there's the problem right there
[12:57] <Rayston> uh, this might be kinda a wierd question, but ...how do you install something thats not in the synaptic manager
[12:57] <Kovecses> r0xoR, did you try the sources i gave you?
[12:57] <skippy81> flash doesnt work on PPC architecture
[12:57] <r0xoR> Kovecses, you gave me sources?
[12:57] <Seattle_Mike> bob_ you should be able to install right over fedora (make sure you select that disk) and then grub will be installed to give you access to both WinXP and Ubuntu
[12:57] <skippy81> its in the restricted guide
[12:57] <skippy81> !restricted
[12:57] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:57] <green_earz> bob_: have you got a spare machine to install ubuntu on, reason so you can get formiluarl with the partioning section of the ubuntu install
[12:57] <_jason> Rayston: depends on what it is.  What are you trying to install?
[12:57] <r0xoR> !freeformats
[12:57] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[12:58] <bloster> quien chucha es de chile?????
[12:58] <bloster> hola
[12:58] <sentinel> i'm trying to install the new i Ubuntu version (6.06) on my AMD64 the live system starts well without any problems then i start the installer, everything works fine till 84% (Configuring APT) the installer stops and does nothing... after a while the installer crashes
[12:58] <_jason> !es
[12:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:58] <r0xoR> nope, i want the actual flash plugin
[12:58] <bloster> quen chucha es de chile
[12:58] <Kovecses> that new installer sucks
[12:58] <mohasr> hi all, I've a small problem , after hibernate/resume usb devices no longer work , I tested both usb wirless mouse and usb memory card reader, they simply don't work , any help ?
[12:58] <AlwaysIcey> I'm going to try and remove some of the higher resolutions and the bits (I set it to 16, so I'll try either 8 or 12).  it's an ancient video card.
[12:59] <shodanjr_gr> guys i am wondering
[12:59] <bloster> hola
[12:59] <LinuxJones> sentinel, there are lots of problems with the live installer
[12:59] <DShepherd> sentinel: use the alternative installer
[12:59] <fh|killy> Rayston - you can download the .deb and do 'dpkg -i blah.deb', or if it has a respository you can add that to /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get it, or you can get the source and compile it
[12:59] <AlwaysIcey> hola bloster.  hablas ingles?
[12:59] <systest> Is there command line tool to show/set what init scritps get run in various runlevels? e.g. like chkconfig?
[12:59] <bootlick> Hi all, trying to use the make command to install ndiswrapper-1.17, comes up with an error right of the bat, "Cant find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15.23-386/build  Should I be updating these lib modules?
[12:59] <Rayston> this program to learn kana, http://lrnj.com/ , the install instructions that come with it say I just need to download and extract it and Ishould be able to run the executable
[12:59] <Kovecses> DShepherd, whats trhe alternative?
[12:59] <r0xoR> sentinel, are you using the 64 bit version? or the 32 bit version?
[12:59] <shodanjr_gr> if i install fglrx drivers, and something goes wrong, is there an easy way to unisntall them?
[12:59] <DShepherd> sentinel: download the alternate cd iso
[12:59] <ransu> ..so about Gnome/KDE being slow: top shows CPU usage at around 10% but trying to do anything with opening new terminals or preferences loads the processor and takes dozens of seconds...
[01:00] <DShepherd> Kovecses: the new installer seems to be giving problems. download the alternater cd iso and install ubuntu with that
[01:00] <mwe> r0xoR: so you see other packages in multiverse?
[01:00] <r0xoR> ransu, programs may open slowly, but they should respond quickly in normal usage
[01:00] <RandolphCarter> ransu: do you have dma enabled?
[01:00] <skippy81> bootlick "sudo apt-get sysv-rc-conf" then run it with "sudo sysv-rc-conf"
[01:00] <bootlick> Thanks Skippy81
[01:00] <FunnyLookinHat> dtorres, then do sudo apt-get update
[01:00] <skippy81> np, bootlick you could also try "BUM" as well, its a simplified version
[01:00] <sentinel> well 1- the 32 bit and the 64 bit version do the same thing :-) 2- the alternate install doesnt want to know the "username" so i cant login when the installation is complete
[01:00] <bootlick> What exactly does that do, change the kernal to a different version?
[01:00] <r0xoR> mwe, what do you mean by that?
[01:01] <RandolphCarter> ransu: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/*yourdrivehere*
[01:01] <ransu> RandolphCarter dma enabling ... er, is it a kernel option
[01:01] <Rayston> fh|killy :so, does that mean I have to compile it myself? on slackware, Iwas able to just download and run it, there really wasnt any "install" at all
[01:01] <mwe> r0xoR: I mean can you find any other packages in the multiverse section like acidrip for example
[01:01] <skippy81> r0xoR:  i think the problem is solved, the packages you cant see are the ones that arnt availiable for PPC architecture
[01:01] <RandolphCarter> ransu: if you're on SATA, that should be 1500+ MB/sec, IDE, probably 8000/12000+
[01:01] <fh|killy> Rayston - compiling it yourself is an option, but you can probably get the .deb file and install it with dpkg -i
[01:01] <troytroy> hi how different is dapper from Lindows?
[01:01] <RandolphCarter> ransu: gah, 800/1200+
[01:01] <Shadyman_> troytroy: You dont have to PAY for dapper apps :p
[01:02] <skippy81> r0xoR:  last time i checked flash and PPC were not an item
[01:02] <Kovecses> troytroy, lindows?
[01:02] <Rayston> _jasondid you catch what said it was?
[01:02] <mwe> r0xoR: heh? you're not on a pc?
[01:02] <sentinel> !de
[01:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[01:02] <mwe> r0xoR: that explains it
[01:02] <DShepherd> sentinel: ok
[01:02] <Kovecses> troytroy, they dont even make that anymore
[01:02] <RandolphCarter> ransu: do you have a swap file too?
[01:02] <mwe> r0xoR: there is no flash for linux ppc
[01:02] <sentinel> DShepherd, so what now ?
[01:02] <skippy81> Kovecses: its changed its name to linspire
[01:02] <RandolphCarter> s/file/partition/
[01:02] <Kovecses> yeah i know
[01:02] <Rayston> kay, where do I get the .deb file?
[01:02] <r0xoR> no flash for linux ppc
[01:02] <skippy81> Kovecses:  legal action by M$ :)
[01:02] <_tacoman_> hi
[01:02] <Kovecses> lol
[01:02] <mwe> r0bby: no. complain to macromedia
[01:03] <Kovecses> evil empire
[01:03] <fh|killy> Rayston - depends what you're looking for, probably from the web page of the application, e.g. on sourceforge
[01:03] <mwe> r0xoR: ^^
[01:03] <troytroy> yes cos its was a dumb ides
[01:03] <troytroy> yes cos its was a dumb idea
[01:03] <Rayston> ahh, kay, thanx
[01:03] <r0xoR> yeah i just googled it
[01:03] <r0xoR> so, that sucks
[01:03] <Seattle_Mike> apt-get, aptitude failing with symbol lookup error during dapper install ?
[01:03] <skippy81> M$ will eat you alive if you use teh word "dows" in your product name
[01:03] <_tacoman_> i'm having a boot of a bit problem...
[01:03] <DShepherd> sentinel: i am not sure
[01:03] <r0xoR> Windoughs
[01:03] <mwe> r0xoR: well at least my head ache is gone, but yours is staying
[01:03] <skippy81> hehe
[01:03] <fh|killy> Can someone help me with this?  I'm trying to install Dapper via CD, but its getting stuck at "mounting root file system".  I am currently running Breezy with no problems
[01:03] <r0xoR> mwe, i never had a headache
[01:04] <DShepherd> sentinel: you have breezy? or is it a fresh install?
[01:04] <mwe> r0xoR: I'm talking about not finding flash
[01:04] <Kovecses> fh|killy, do you dual boot?
[01:04] <skippy81> yeah i wish we had asked "is your PC an i386" rather than "is your PC an AMD64" r0xoR lol
[01:04] <kakalto> if I currently have a breezy xubuntu install, but only use it in the command line (I don't use X), can I use the kubuntu alternate cd to upgrade, or do I have to use the xubuntu alternate cd ?
[01:04] <bootlick> skippy81, the command does not work
[01:04] <fh|killy> Kovecses - yes
[01:04] <sentinel> its the 6.06 version from the ubuntu website
[01:04] <r0xoR> mwe, yeah and i never had a headache about it
[01:04] <skippy81> bootlick one sec i will check for you :)
[01:04] <bootlick> Invalid operation sysv-rc-conf
[01:04] <bootlick> thks
[01:04] <MaKkY> hey guys
[01:05] <Shadyman_> MaKkY: Hey
[01:05] <r0xoR> wow, i told you guys right off that i was doing this to an iBook
[01:05] <r0xoR> oh well
[01:05] <MaKkY> i need to make a partition i installed GParted yet cannot find it...
[01:05] <mwe> r0xoR: but I did. I totally didn't understand what was going on
[01:05] <Kovecses> fh|killy, yeah i had that problem too ..... you must partition first.... then select the use free space option.... new installer sucks
[01:05] <skippy81> bootlick:  "sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf" i mght have left out the word install to begin with
[01:05] <Bot_Builder> can ubuntu read ntfs?
[01:05] <sentinel> DShepherd, i waited so long for the new version because of the cpu clocking problems with the 5.10 version
[01:05] <fh|killy> ok - thanks Kovecses
[01:05] <mwe> Bot_Builder: yes
[01:05] <kakalto> !ntfs
[01:05] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[01:05] <Bot_Builder> ok, i wonder why my windows partition is blank...
[01:05] <bootlick> heh, thanks skippy81, will try
[01:05] <DShepherd> sentinel: i know.. if you have breezy installer you could try an upgrade.. with the cdrom added to the sourcelist
[01:05] <skippy81> bootlick, if that doesnt work, then you need to enable multiverse and universe in your sources list - see the post from ubotu
[01:05] <jonesssss> how do i resize my windows partition from ubuntu
[01:05] <DShepherd> sentinel: other than that I am fresh out of ideas
[01:06] <mwe> Bot_Builder: are they mounted?
[01:06] <skippy81> ubotu tell bootlick about repositories
[01:06] <Bot_Builder> mwe - yeah, sda1 should be my old windows partition
[01:06] <_tacoman_> boot (kernal init) is getting stuck at "[4294668.257000]   ..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=-1 pin2=-1"
[01:06] <DShepherd> jonesssss: apt-get install gparted and use that
[01:06] <Bot_Builder> I figured moving data from it would be faster than moving it from samba
[01:06] <RandolphCarter> _tacoman_: tried adding "noapic nolapic" to other options at the boot menu?
[01:06] <sir_spelunker> anyone have an idea why 6.06 desktop version hangs during installation within win32 vmware @ the time screen (2 of 6)
[01:06] <mwe> Bot_Builder: does the mount command confirm its mounted?
[01:06] <jonesssss> will it resize it safely?
[01:06] <ransu> RandolphCarter the command you gave doesnt work - it claims no such file or directory ... i did ls /dev and it printed out dha -hdx among many so the path is there
[01:06] <sentinel> ok i see i am installing fresh :-) but i could indeed try that
[01:07] <ransu> RandolphCarter yes I have swap - 3Gb
[01:07] <mwe> jonesssss: usually. there is always a small risk though
[01:07] <RandolphCarter> ransu: if it doesn't work you're getting the wrong drive, try looking in /etc/fstab
[01:07] <mwe> jonesssss: in windows as well
[01:07] <RandolphCarter> ransu: if hdparm isn't installed, 'sudo aptitude install hdparm'
[01:07] <yojimbo-san> In xorg.conf, it says I'm using the 'nv' driver, I guess that's the opensource 2d driver; how do I get a 3d driver *on my iMac* ?
[01:07] <superjolly> mkde
[01:07] <DShepherd> sentinel: trying is a good thing :-)
[01:07] <Bot_Builder> mwe - uh, no its not on the mount list
[01:07] <jonesssss> mwe, will i be able to access that partition
[01:07] <spikeb> yojimbo-san, powerpc imac or intel imac
[01:07] <_tacoman_> help w/boot?
[01:07] <mwe> Bot_Builder: so it's not mounted. read the wiki please
[01:07] <yojimbo-san> powerpc
[01:07] <magic> Hi! I was trying to install Kubuntu buy using point and click. In step 5 it was about to give me the kinds of partitions but the window is blanc, I can not go any further, it's been like that for the last 20 minutes. What should I do? Unplug the machine?
[01:07] <spikeb> yojimbo-san, you don't.
[01:07] <redguy> yojimbo-san: I doubt that nvidia provides a linux driver for mac
[01:07] <sentinel> DShepherd, today is completely gone :-S i'll try that tomorrow
[01:07] <mwe> !tell Bot_Builder about ntfs
[01:07] <Bot_Builder> ok
[01:07] <RandolphCarter> yojimbo-san: if it's a PPC mac, you email nvidia until they release one
[01:08] <sir_spelunker> anyone have an idea why 6.06 desktop version hangs during installation within win32 vmware @ the time screen (2 of 6)?  it wont let me click next or back and the cd-rom is still reading (1 hour later)
[01:08] <yojimbo-san> :-( ok Thanks guys ...
[01:08] <SANTTA> I need to know how to install firefox
[01:08] <El_Donkey> any ideas on windows problems, what channel?
[01:08] <mwe> sir_spelunker: what is it doing at that point?
[01:08] <redguy> SANTTA: apt-get install mozilla-firefox ?
[01:08] <bootlick> Skippy81, i get this error now" Package sysv-rc-conf is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean its only available from source"
[01:08] <_tacoman_> i can give more info on my boot woes if necessary
[01:08] <SANTTA> or im sorry i don;t mean firefox, i mean opera
[01:09] <sir_spelunker> it brings up the world map in order to select time zone, but the next/back buttons are disabled and it wont let me select any time zone options.  cd-rom continues to read
[01:09] <SANTTA> i need help with opera not firefox
[01:09] <redguy> !opera
[01:09] <ubotu> download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[01:09] <mwe> sir_spelunker: hmm
[01:09] <ZeZu> what options do i need to make my ntfs partition writeable ?
[01:09] <neoxan_> *love you all*
[01:09] <neoxan_> :*
[01:09] <mwe> ZeZu: you can't safely
[01:09] <ZeZu> unsafely then
[01:10] <ZeZu> i hear its pretty stable these days
[01:10] <mwe> ZeZu: don't
[01:10] <sentinel> ok thx for the help good night :-)
[01:10] <mwe> ZeZu: it will break
[01:10] <jonesssss> Im confused, I want more space for my linux drive. Do i have to resize my widnows drive and make a partition for it in et3 so i can use that partition in linux?
[01:10] <ZeZu> hmm
[01:10] <MaKkY> can i use GParted to make a partition? if yes, how?
[01:10] <SANTTA> i downloaded opera but what do i click to install, im used to exe files to install, bu ti donno what file to click in linux
[01:10] <ZeZu> well that sucks
[01:10] <mwe> MaKkY: why not use cfdisk?
[01:10] <skippy81> bootlick you need to enable your repositories
[01:10] <SANTTA> yeah it does
[01:10] <bootlick> Doing that right now Skippy81
[01:10] <MaKkY> mwe: what is cfdisk?
[01:10] <skippy81> ubotu tell bootlick about repositories
[01:10] <richiefrich> MaKkY yes, just make them... theres a graph
[01:11] <bootlick> was reading the page you sent me,
[01:11] <skippy81> ok cool bootlick, it should work then :)
[01:11] <redguy> SANTTA: read the wiki link ubotu gave
[01:11] <SANTTA> k
[01:11] <skippy81> you only have to enable them once, and then things are a lot easier
[01:11] <_tacoman_> people don't seem to be responding to my boot question.  Is there a better place to ask it?
[01:11] <richiefrich> MaKkY u can use many things...  i perfer fdisk
[01:11] <Skoll> hello
[01:11] <mwe> ZeZu: yes. complain to ms for not publishing info about ntfs. writing drivers via reverse engeneering is kinda hard
[01:11] <redguy> _tacoman_: what is your problem?
[01:11] <Skoll> I need help, I can't install mplayer
[01:11] <_tacoman_> boot (kernal init) is getting stuck at "[4294668.257000]   ..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=-1 pin2=-1"
[01:11] <jonesssss> mwe, can i resize and make a partition on my windows drive for linux to access
[01:12] <MaKkY> richiefrich: where can i obtain fdisk?
[01:12] <Skoll> I have uncomment the repositories but, mplayer doesn't appears un sinaptyc
[01:12] <_tacoman_> i took off the "silent" option
[01:12] <skippy81> _tacoman_:  cant you boot with "noapic nolapic acpi=off" and see if that helps
[01:12] <richiefrich> MaKkY u should have it
[01:12] <RandolphCarter> _tacoman_: I already said - have you tried adding 'noapic nolapic acpi=off' to the end of your kernel params?
[01:12] <mwe> jonesssss: the installer will take care of that
[01:12] <jonesssss> ?
[01:12] <RandolphCarter> skippy81: grr :P
[01:12] <jonesssss> what installer
[01:12] <MaKkY> richiefrich: where?
[01:12] <skippy81> RandolphCarter:  hehe :)
[01:12] <jonesssss> mwe, i just want more space formy rainbow tables
[01:12] <richiefrich> MaKkY but if u like GUI use gparted..  -->   sudo fdisk /dev/hd(a/b)
[01:13] <redguy> _tacoman_: what kind of box do you have?
[01:13] <JDahl> Skoll: unfortunately, there are many problems with timers and interrupts AMD64 for some chipsets
[01:13] <mwe> jonesssss: oh
[01:13] <Skoll> amd64?
[01:13] <Skoll> no no
[01:13] <richiefrich> MaKkY  but it's all cmd line
[01:13] <Gilly> hello all
[01:13] <ransu> RandolphCarter checked /etc/fstab , my / is hda8 - also hdparm was already installed - any ideas ?
[01:13] <skippy81> g'day Gilly
[01:13] <mwe> jonesssss: I think gparted should be able to do that. I havent tried it myself though
[01:13] <JDahl> Skoll: sorry... just looked like an AMD64 output
[01:13] <Gilly> skippy: hey skippy
[01:13] <kameron> efff, time for a reinstall then. i can't figure out why my sata drive isn't detected.
[01:13] <shrump_jimbo> Skoll: packages.ubuntu.com ?
[01:13] <Gilly> skippy: i am trying to get my net connection up and running in dapper drake
[01:14] <UKMatt> if i'm supposed to go to a folder called "~/.gnome2", how do i find it?
[01:14] <skippy81> Gilly:  what sort of network card do you have?
[01:14] <RandolphCarter> ransu: hdparm -tT /dev/hda
[01:14] <skippy81> if its a wireless then that explains it :P
[01:14] <redrumz> its sda cos its sata
[01:14] <RandolphCarter> ransu: sorry, you need the actual drive, not a partition :)
[01:14] <frank_> UKMatt: you have to show the hidden file/folders
[01:14] <RandolphCarter> ransu: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda
[01:14] <Gilly> skippy: well, I have an intel 2200b/g wireless which is supposed to be supported out of the box
[01:14] <ransu> RandolphCarter already tried that and all variations i could think of :P
[01:14] <frank_> UKMatt: or  ls -a   in a terminal
[01:14] <Gilly> skippy: but right now I am just trying my broadcom NIC
[01:14] <UKMatt> frank_, how do i do that?
[01:15] <RandolphCarter> ransu: well, that's correct, if it isn't working you're making a typo
[01:15] <Gilly> skippy: i can get onliny but only if I specify a DNS name
[01:15] <frank_> UKMatt: not sure. I don't use GNOME
[01:15] <UKMatt> boo
[01:15] <MaKkY> !fdisk
[01:15] <ubotu> MaKkY: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:15] <redrumz> sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[01:15] <skippy81> thats wierd Gilly, cant you use DHCP?
[01:15] <redrumz> or sda1
[01:15] <pat_> FU!!!
[01:15] <MaKkY> richiefrich: what do i have to do?
[01:15] <jadaz87> what is an app to build packages  from config make?
[01:15] <ransu> RandolphCarter my clipboard is making a typo... :P
[01:15] <MaKkY> richiefrich: i would like something that is VERY simple
[01:15] <RandolphCarter> ransu: :P
[01:15] <SANTTA> one more questions, so would any debian app work with ubuntu since ubuntu is bases on debian
[01:16] <richiefrich> MaKkY  then gparted
[01:16] <pat_> jhgghjfnbshsbilhfnhjkghxmdnffhgjtnhjtbnh hgsduihgdfhbjdg
[01:16] <jadaz87> SANTTA: no
[01:16] <crimsun> pat_: roit
[01:16] <SANTTA> hmmmmmmm
[01:16] <jadaz87> pat stop
[01:16] <Gilly> skippy: i have it set to use DHCP, my router is doing DHCP, but it doesn't seem to get any connecftion unless I add a DNS
[01:16] <skippy81> pat_ go away please
[01:16] <pat_> no
[01:16] <redguy> jadaz87: dhelper or checkinstall
[01:16] <jonesssss> how do i get java runtime enviroment in dapper
[01:16] <frank_> SANTTA: the ubuntu repositories contain the same apps as the debian repositories
[01:16] <magic> still in step 5 of installation of Kubuntu, can not go any further.
[01:16] <pat_> u
[01:16] <redguy> !ops
[01:16] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[01:17] <brmiller> man, busy in here...      which CD do you use for a server install on a machine with a hw SCSI RAID controller?
[01:17] <shodanjr_gr> guys i just completed my full install of dapper
[01:17] <skippy81> I cant understand that at all Gilly, is that with your wired card or your wireless?
[01:17] <nalioth> redguy: ?
[01:17] <DShepher1> !tell jonesssss about java
[01:17] <shodanjr_gr> im wondering how i can check wether its running in graphics safe mode or not...
[01:17] <jadaz87> nalioth: pat_
[01:17] <Seveas> redguy, ?
[01:17] <Gilly> skippy: i am still running the live CD, trying to make everything work. would that matter?
[01:17] <MaKkY> richiefrich: i installed gparted using synaptic; yet i cannot find GParted
[01:17] <_tacoman_> checking now....
[01:17] <Nullified> Hey guys where is the trash directory?
[01:17] <Gilly> skippy: wired
[01:17] <nalioth> Nullified: ~/.Trash
[01:17] <wastrel> i'm hungry
[01:17] <redguy> nalioth, Seveas: _pat
[01:17] <richiefrich> MaKkY sudo gparted
[01:17] <redrumz> makky or restart gnome
[01:17] <redguy> erm, pat_ that is
[01:17] <ransu> RandolphCarter 96MB/s, 5.2MB/s
[01:17] <Nullified> nalioth: so "cd ~./Trash
[01:18] <Madpilot> redguy, dealt with
[01:18] <nalioth> Nullified: that will work nicely
[01:18] <shodanjr_gr> anyone?
[01:18] <UKMatt> whats the bash command for copy?  cp?
[01:18] <redguy> Madpilot: thanks
[01:18] <wastrel> UKMatt:  yes -- cp.
[01:18] <UKMatt> or actually, what is it for cut?
[01:18] <bootlick> Skippy81, i followed the page, one problem, it asks me to click on a "settings" button at the bottom of the repositories page, and there is none?
[01:18] <redguy> UKMatt: correct
[01:18] <UKMatt> wastrel, new to command line
[01:18] <RandolphCarter> ransu: that's the second line, "buffered disk read" right - what's the first?
[01:18] <nalioth> Nullified: then again, what trash are you looking for? kde keeps it's trash in a different place
[01:18] <richiefrich> wastrel what u making?  cookies ?
[01:18] <redguy> !tell UKMatt about cli
[01:18] <RandolphCarter> ransu: "Timing cached reads"
[01:18] <wastrel> UKMatt:  there's a good wiki page command line intro... lemmie find it
[01:18] <Nullified> thanks nalioth (Gnome here)
[01:18] <UKMatt> is cut ct?
[01:18] <skippy81> UKMatt:  cut is mv , but its not used much
[01:18] <nalioth> Nullified: then you'll be fine
[01:18] <skippy81> mv=  mv
[01:18] <UKMatt> oh
[01:18] <UKMatt> ty
[01:18] <skippy81> mv = move sorry
[01:18] <wastrel> ah.
[01:18] <wastrel> !cli
[01:18] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[01:19] <redguy> UKMatt: you might want to read the BasicCommands page at the wiki
[01:19] <richiefrich> skippy81 im like u i type mv for move and cp for copy all the time
[01:19] <wastrel> keep in mind that mv and cp will silently overwrite existing files.
[01:19] <richiefrich> :)
[01:19] <ransu> RandolphCarter Timing cached reads is 192MB in 2 sec = 96MB/s
[01:19] <green_earz> Gilly: have you a copy at hand of the ubuntu live cd or knoppix to see if a live cd well get the dns info from your router. if a live cd done not set it self you ok, then i would say have a look at your router dns config setup
[01:19] <_tacoman_> disabling acpi worked, but i want to use acpi, so what do i do?
[01:19] <richiefrich> wastrel not if u use the -i
[01:19] <RandolphCarter> ransu: holy **** :/ you need to turn DMA on then :)
[01:19] <RandolphCarter> ransu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[01:19] <Gilly> skippy: if I don't enter a DNS, I can access my router still
[01:20] <MaKkY> richiefrich: gparted will not let me make a new one..... the 'new partiton' button is not clickable...
[01:20] <skippy81> richiefrich:  yeah habits die hard lol
[01:20] <richiefrich> skippy81 i know
[01:20] <kakalto> does the ubuntu live dvd have ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, and edubuntu all on one disc?
[01:20] <Gilly> skippy: i just can't access the web......obviously since there's no DNS
[01:20] <msid> is there any command for ubuntu to reconfigure automatically my xorg.conf ?
[01:20] <ransu> RandolphCarter is that bad? why is DMA than not enable by default in Ubuntu - is it only for slow laptop HDs like mine ?
[01:20] <RandolphCarter> ransu: it's important you follow the step where you edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[01:20] <RandolphCarter> ransu: mostly it is, sometimes it isn't, I'm not sure how it decides
[01:20] <skippy81> Gilly:  are you having to enter the DNS every time you boot up?
[01:20] <redguy> msid: automatically as in "with no user interaction" ?
[01:20] <richiefrich> MaKkY  are they all full ? u must select a drive in the upper right hand cornor
[01:20] <jonesssss> is sun-java5-bin only for certin arch types
[01:21] <msid> redguy: yes
[01:21] <UKMatt> grrr, its not letting me copy a file...
[01:21] <pixel> when I boot into the breezy badger live cd, I cannot read the OS X partitions on my HDD
[01:21] <nalioth> kakalto: not the official dvd, no
[01:21] <Gilly> skippy: well, I don't know because I am using the live CD, and I haven't rebooted yet
[01:21] <pixel> Is there a way to read those HFS+ drives?
[01:21] <richiefrich> MaKkY  there says  'hda'  it's a pull down menu
[01:21] <kakalto> nalioth: no? then what does take up all that extra 2.8GB
[01:21] <Gilly> skippy: but the problem is that this is my laptop, so I will have different DNS addresses all of the time
[01:21] <richiefrich> pixel yes
[01:21] <UKMatt> its saying its not a directory, but i'm trying to move a file, do i have to specify that?
[01:21] <skippy81> bootlick: right mate, http://pastebin.com/758628 here is my /etc/apt/sources.list file.  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and make sure yours matches mine - this assumes you are on dapper
[01:21] <nalioth> pixel: yes, ubuntu can read hfs+, just mount with the filesystem type "hfsplus"
[01:21] <redguy> msid: hmm, not really, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might do the trick for you
[01:21] <Gilly> skippy: and sometimes I won't know them, so I can't rely on manual entry
[01:22] <richiefrich> pixel u must put support in the kernel
[01:22] <nalioth> kakalto: i have no clue
[01:22] <redguy> msid: it will ask some questions though
[01:22] <msid> redguy: any ideas how can i get sshd up and running ?
[01:22] <skippy81> Gilly: are you running from a live CD, or have you installed?
[01:22] <shodanjr_gr> guys any help with getting my netgear wg511 to work?
[01:22] <RandolphCarter> HFS is built by default on the x86 kernels at least
[01:22] <Gilly> skippy: live CD, want to get everything working before I install
[01:22] <RandolphCarter> it's a module though
[01:22] <Gilly> skippy: or rather, make sure that my internet connection and display work properly
[01:22] <kakalto> !livedvd
[01:22] <ubotu> kakalto: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:22] <redguy> msid: do you have it installed?
[01:22] <r0xoR> well is there flash 64 yet?
[01:23] <skippy81> tbh Gilly, i think that you wont have this problem on a full install
[01:23] <msid> redguy: is it the ssh package ?
[01:23] <richiefrich> pixel  cat /proc/filesystems
[01:23] <redguy> msid: not sure
[01:23] <pixel> okay
[01:23] <richiefrich> pixel that will tell u if u have support
[01:23] <Gilly> skippy: I thought that might be the case.  it makes sense.  i am willing to try that
[01:23] <Gilly> skippy: thanks
[01:23] <redguy> ubotu info openssh
[01:23] <skippy81> when i boot off a live CD i have to manually configure DHCP and my network interfaces Gilly, but once I install its all done for me
[01:23] <aof32> Can someone please help me figure out how I can become a Super User in Ubuntu?
[01:23] <UKMatt> sudo cp  /Desktop/GoogleSearch.wsdl /.gnome2/deskbar-applet/             does anyone see anything wrong with that syntax?
[01:23] <RandolphCarter> !tell aof32 about root
[01:23] <Gilly> skippy: one more question.  i have a 1280x800 display. i head the 915resolution was done easier in dapper
[01:23] <Gerbils> anyone willing to test my new webserver?
[01:23] <Gilly> skippy: do you know how it's done?
[01:24] <richiefrich> aof32  sudo -Hs
[01:24] <richiefrich> aof32  or sudo -i    i think
[01:24] <void^> !info openssh-server
[01:24] <ubotu> openssh-server: (Secure shell server, an rshd replacement), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 190 kB, Installed size: 516 kB
[01:24] <sir_spelunker> !info root
[01:24] <void^> !root
[01:24] <Gilly> skippy: is there like an apt-get install 915resolution?
[01:24] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:24] <skippy81> Gilly im not sure what you mean by "915resolution"
[01:24] <redguy> msid: it would be openssh-server
[01:24] <skippy81> Gilly:  do you mean widescreen aspect ratio?
[01:25] <Gilly> skippy: that was the name of the fix for the widescreen display
[01:25] <pixel> richiefrich: the whole reason to access this partition is to install ubuntu along side my other files (non-system)
[01:25] <ransu> RandolphCarter hdparm tried to enable it but it said hda was busy - should I reboot and see if it works...
[01:25] <redguy> msid: use apt-cache search to find packages
[01:25] <Gilly> skippy: for the 915 intel chipset, and also for the 855
[01:25] <pixel> I can't find any documentation on it
[01:25] <msid> redguy: thanks
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> ransu: you need to add the info to /etc/hdparm.conf
[01:25] <pixel> and as of right now, there is no support for hfsplus
[01:25] <richiefrich> pixel ok, but do u have support, if not u must recompile the kerenl
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> ransu: otherwise you'll have the same problem when you reboot :)
[01:25] <skippy81> oh i see Gilly just googled it now, id be suprised if you had to do it - but if you do it looks easy enough
[01:26] <Bier_und_Korn> can someone help me with passwordgen in .htpasswd ? apache2 refuses to let me in , dunno how to "exactly" encrypt it, all generator things in web didn#t work 4 me :( its apache2 from dapper
[01:26] <bobbyd> hi
[01:26] <skippy81> it has to be installed to run at bootup, so again its not something you can test with the livecd gilly
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> ransu: but after you've done that (make sure you change /dev/hdc to /dev/hda) you can reboot to turn on DMA
[01:26] <Bot_Builder> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions looks rather old, its pre-breezy.  Is there a modern way to do the same thing?
[01:26] <bobbyd> is there anything I can do to improve the Audo sync when playing flash movies?
[01:26] <redguy> Bier_und_Korn: tried using htpasswd ?
[01:26] <mitcheloc> hey guys, kudos on ubuntu (just installed it) ;), any plans on including mono in the distro?
[01:26] <wastrel> bobbyd:  there's some info about that on the restrictedformats wiki page
[01:26] <bobbyd> ...in firefox
[01:26] <richiefrich> pixel  grep HFS /usr/src/linux/.config   <- - if u have the kernel-sources installed
[01:26] <Bier_und_Korn> yep
[01:26] <Gilly> skippy: okay, thanks.  i'm gonna go ahead and install now.  looks like I'll have to to test my issues.  thanks for you help.  i greatly appreciate it
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> mitcheloc: it is
[01:27] <frank_> mitcheloc: mono is in universe
[01:27] <Bier_und_Korn> even a password encrypted with that fails
[01:27] <crimsun> frank_: no, it's in main.
[01:27] <skippy81> Gilly:  no problem and good luck :)
[01:27] <frank_> crimsun: I stand corrected ;)
[01:27] <AlwaysIcey> WOOOHOOO.  I fixed my display issue.  I set my bits to 8, and removed all of the upper resolutions from it.  It's opening up now :-D  Although it's ugly at times.
[01:27] <skippy81> Bier_und_Korn:  try an online generator script http://cooletips.de/htaccess/
[01:27] <bobbyd> wastrel, thanks
[01:27] <Bier_und_Korn> thx skippy81, tried already lots
[01:27] <Gilly> skippy: thanks. is the best way to install just to use the icon in the live CD.  sounds like a silly question, but I'm a complete noob
[01:28] <ransu> RandolphCarter : hmm.. what about mult_sec_io and write_cache - what do those do ?
[01:28] <pixel> okay richiefrich, thanks for the start, I'll get my hands dirty here
[01:28] <skippy81> Gilly:  the live installer is the recommended way - personally i dont like it, but if its your first ever install its probably recommended
[01:28] <Bier_und_Korn> is there a switch to turn htpasswd cencryption off ?
[01:28] <skippy81> just use the install icon and it should be easy
[01:28] <RandolphCarter> ransu: i'm sorry, I haven't a clue
[01:28] <ransu> RandolphCarter : what's the pico shortcut key for save and exit
[01:28] <Gilly> skippy: thanks. you've been very helpful
[01:28] <livevil> Hi guys, I'm setting samba configuration, but on th wiki, I read that I don't need it to share folder, but only of smbfs. following the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently, I can't understand what insert instead servername, my router ip? and instead of sharename? My user id? Doing this the shating doesn't work... please help me
[01:28] <RandolphCarter> ransu: erk, I use vim, maybe Ctl+O?
[01:28] <redguy> ransu: ^W ^X
[01:29] <richiefrich> pixel np
[01:29] <mitcheloc> frank_: what is "universe"?
[01:29] <redguy> ransu: or ^O ^X, not sure right now
[01:29] <frank_> mitcheloc: universe a section of the software repositories
[01:29] <slvmchn> opinions: kubuntu vs. ubuntu? pros/cons of either?
[01:29] <skippy81> ubotu, tell mitcheloc about restricted formats old chap
[01:29] <frank_> !tell mitcheloc about repos
[01:29] <crazy_penguin> good night to all! sleep well!
[01:30] <skippy81> lol my attempt was just to fancy :)
[01:30] <_jason> slvmchn: kubuntu uses kde, ubuntu uses gnome as default.  You can use both gnome and kde if you wish
[01:30] <nbx909> slvmchn, the difference is the desktop, kubuntu has kde while ubuntu has gnome
[01:30] <`Chip`> Anyone having thier 6.06 freeze during the install
[01:30] <nbx909> slvmchn, i perfer gnome
[01:30] <mitcheloc> cool, thank you guys!
[01:30] <nbx909> `Chip`, which install verson?
[01:30] <nbx909> `Chip`, desktop or alternative?
[01:30] <Unitg1|EoL|> hi i have a problem with my broadcom wireless on my laptop i detect my secure wireless router but when i try to connect it doesnt work ( yes i put in the correct encryption info) im currently using 64bit hex psk
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu>  ciao
[01:30] <`Chip`> desktop
[01:31] <Bier_und_Korn> is there a switch to turn htpasswd encryption off ?
[01:31] <`Chip`> it installed fine on my laptop
[01:31] <nbx909> `Chip`, yeah some people have problems with it, try installing using alternative
[01:31] <`Chip`> thanks
[01:31] <slvmchn> is there any performance difference between kubuntu and ubuntu? i'm familiar with what they are, i'm just wondering if there's any pros/cons to either
[01:31] <slvmchn> or is it entirely aesthetics
[01:31] <czr> does anyone know how to start multiple xmms:ses?
[01:31] <richiefrich> slvmchn just KDE vs. GNOME
[01:31] <Eleaf> probably
[01:32] <D-side> damn. thats a pile of people.
[01:32] <nbx909> slvmchn, i think kde is slower then gnome
[01:32] <Gilly> slvmchn: mostly entirely aesthetics
[01:32] <Bier_und_Korn> hello ?
[01:32] <Bier_und_Korn> LOL
[01:32] <skippy81> Bier_und_Korn:  you will have much more luck in an Apache chatroom i think - probably only 5% of the people in here know apache well
[01:32] <slvmchn> ok thanks
[01:32] <Eleaf> czr, can you just type "xmms" in a different terminal?
[01:32] <Gilly> slvmchn: like richie said, kde vs. gnome
[01:32] <Bier_und_Korn> hmmm
[01:32] <czr> Eleaf, I can type, however nothing happens
[01:32] <nbx909> Bier_und_Korn, yes?
[01:32] <shodanjr_gr> lets all pray that ATI drivers work for my laptop of doom
[01:32] <shodanjr_gr> cmon people
[01:32] <Eleaf> czr, what??
[01:32] <czr> Eleaf, I think it assumes I want to control the existing instance
[01:32] <shodanjr_gr> pray!!!!
[01:32] <shodanjr_gr> PRAYYYYY!!
[01:32] <redrumz> you can run most kde applications in gnome with kde libraries anyway
[01:32] <Bier_und_Korn> thx skippy81, will try that
[01:32] <_tacoman_> if i upgrade my kernal to i686, will that help w/acpi and performance?
[01:32] <nbx909> shodanjr_gr, sacrifice your 1st born or 3 goats to the gods of linux
[01:32] <Gilly> shodan: my hands are folded in prayer
[01:32] <shodanjr_gr> i got neither of the 2 :P
[01:32] <skippy81> lol nbx909
[01:32] <Eleaf> czr, hmm.  what about xmms &
[01:33] <redrumz> shodanjr_gr,  i have my ati drivers vaguely running finally!
[01:33] <nbx909> skippy81, it works for me
[01:33] <czr> Eleaf, shell job control isn't the problem
[01:33] <richiefrich> _tacoman_ what is your box ?
[01:33] <Eleaf> ok
[01:33] <shodanjr_gr> considering im 20 years old and live in a Greek metropolis :P
[01:33] <richiefrich> _tacoman_  it might and it might not
[01:33] <Gilly> arcane: what are the disadvantages of xfce
[01:33] <jadaz87> nbx909: :-)
[01:33] <skippy81> nbx909:  hehe well just dont go to jail for it :P
[01:33] <[arcane] > Gilly, light and has neat modularness
[01:33] <Gilly> arcane: given that speed and lack of bloat is the advantage
[01:33] <richiefrich> Gilly it suckx.. i like e
[01:33] <nbx909> skippy81, you can't it's not illegal to sacrifice things
[01:33] <richiefrich> [arcane]  lol
[01:33] <shodanjr_gr> DAMN
[01:33] <skippy81> hehe
[01:33] <Gilly> richie: enlightenment?
[01:33] <skippy81> yeah right :)
[01:33] <shodanjr_gr> X failed to strat
[01:33] <jadaz87> nbx909: how are you doing?
[01:33] <shodanjr_gr> ok
[01:34] <richiefrich> Gilly yes
[01:34] <[arcane] > richiefrich, see thats fucked up
[01:34] <_tacoman_> intel pentium 4 northwood w/hypertreading on an asus p4p 800e pro
[01:34] <shodanjr_gr> who is up for a troubleshooting question?
[01:34] <shodanjr_gr> who is up for a troubleshooting session?
[01:34] <richiefrich> [arcane]  i know
[01:34] <[arcane] > richiefrich, dont force ppl views remember lol
[01:34] <redrumz> shodanjr are you installing?
[01:34] <nbx909> jadaz87, you are from townsquare arn't you?
[01:34] <shodanjr_gr> installed
[01:34] <shodanjr_gr> rebooted
[01:34] <richiefrich> [arcane]  i know
[01:34] <D-side> quick question per dapper and xgl. on the final release, is xgl installed by default?
[01:34] <shodanjr_gr> and got that wonderful blue screen
[01:34] <D-side> googling didnt immediately answer that question for me.
[01:34] <kakalto> D-side: no
[01:34] <skippy81> D-side: no
[01:34] <UKMatt> can someone help me copy this gay file
[01:34] <[arcane] > Gilly, but it has good FM
[01:34] <redrumz> shodanjr_gr,  seen that a lot lately
[01:34] <D-side> good, thanks.
[01:34] <avis> what is xgl ?
[01:34] <[arcane] > thunar or pcmanfm
[01:34] <D-side> that was a fast answer, thanks. :)
[01:34] <nbx909> UKMatt, i'm sorry there are no gay files on linux :P
[01:34] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> notte
[01:34] <guiss> any known issues between via-velocity and DHCP?
[01:34] <[arcane] > avis, google it
[01:34] <shodanjr_gr> redrumz any clue as to what to do?
[01:34] <richiefrich> _tacoman_ then why not use the P4 setting in the kernel
[01:34] <kakalto> avis: GL-accelerated X, I believe
[01:34] <nalioth> Arcanoxer: can we watch our language please?
[01:35] <troy_s> ubotu, tell avis about xgl
[01:35] <skippy81> D-side:  quick questions get quick answers :P
[01:35] <shodanjr_gr> redrumz or as to how to revert to the old drivers?
[01:35] <guiss> i can't get dhcp from my cablemodem via DHCP
[01:35] <nbx909> !language
[01:35] <kakalto> ubotu, tell me about xgl
[01:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[01:35] <D-side> skippy81: lucky for me. :) how about xorg 7, standard in dapper?
[01:35] <[arcane] > guiss,
[01:35] <UKMatt> i have to paste it into a file that needs root, so i'm trying to use terminal and i keep getting is not a directory: No such file or directory
[01:35] <[arcane] > guiss, have you tried dhcpd eth#
[01:35] <_tacoman_> p4 setting in kernel... how do i access that?
[01:35] <bootlick> Okay Skippy81, I have changed my packages, now what package do i install?
[01:35] <Unitg1|EoL|> does anyone have any suggestions what to do with my broadcom wireless problem? i tryed mutltiple encryption methods it doesnt want to let me connect
[01:35] <Reziarfg> I've recently instaled 64bit Ubuntu "Breezy Badger" on my other machine and there doesn't seem to be anything I can do to get the internet working. If someone could help me out through a private message I'd greatly appreciate it
[01:35] <nbx909> !prayer
[01:35] <ubotu> well, prayer is try sacrificing 3 goats or a small donkey to the gods of linux
[01:35] <nbx909> :P
[01:35] <D-side> haha ubotu. nice.
[01:35] <richiefrich> avis http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL
[01:36] <redrumz> shodanjr_gr,  you can attempt to reinstall the vesa drivers or mess around with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:36] <troy_s> unitg: buy a open source friendly card.  send mail to broadcom.
[01:36] <Gilly> ubotu: hail marys won't due?
[01:36] <kakalto> D-side: yeah, xorg7 standard in dapper
[01:36] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Gilly
[01:36] <guiss> [arcane] , yes, i've tried that and dhcp goes to sleep without receiving response. That machine dual boots windows and works under windows xp
[01:36] <skippy81> bootlick:  ok lets do it the graphical way, it will be a better learning expierience for you
[01:36] <nbx909> !tell Unitg1|EoL| about forums
[01:36] <UKMatt> i have to paste it into a file that needs root, so i'm trying to use terminal and i keep getting is not a directory: No such file or directory
[01:36] <D-side> kakalto: excellent.
[01:36] <richiefrich> avis great example of what it is
[01:36] <troy_s> unitg:  broadcom is a pain in the bottom.
[01:36] <D-side> i'll figure out the rest myself. thanks.
[01:36] <kapputu> do I need to have X running on the server machine if I want to tunnel connections?
[01:36] <skippy81> bootlick:  go to your System menu and click on synaptic
[01:36] <kakalto> D-side: have fun :)
[01:36] <bootlick> ok
[01:36] <Unitg1|EoL|> yes ive heard :(
[01:36] <[arcane] > kapputu, no
[01:36] <troy_s> kapputu:  you mean like "ssh -X"?
[01:36] <D-side> undoubtedly i shall. :)
[01:36] <Unitg1|EoL|> well ill go try the forums then
[01:36] <Reziarfg> I've recently instaled 64bit Ubuntu "Breezy Badger" on my other machine and there doesn't seem to be anything I can do to get the internet working. If someone could help me out through a private message I'd greatly appreciate it
[01:36] <nbx909> !tell kapputu about xfowarding
[01:36] <kapputu> troy_s: can I do that from putty?
[01:36] <UKMatt> welll... if anyones reading this and knows pm me
[01:37] <kapputu> I'm on Windows
[01:37] <richiefrich> _tacoman_  u know what i mean ?
[01:37] <bootlick> done
[01:37] <troy_s> unit: send mail to broadcom and tell them to support the open source movement by opening up their drivers.  public pressure will win.
[01:37] <nbx909> !tell kapputu about fowardingx
[01:37] <skippy81> bootlick:  then i want you to press the "reload" icon, that updates your database with all the availiable packages
[01:37] <[arcane] > kapputu, hmm
[01:37] <nbx909> !tell kapputu about fowardx
[01:37] <bootlick> okay, done
[01:37] <nbx909> grrr
[01:37] <nbx909> i know i set one of these
[01:37] <nbx909> lol
[01:37] <troy_s> kapputu:  you can't remote x from a non x based computer eg Apple or Ms.
[01:37] <poje> kapputu: putty is text only ssh, no X forwarding; you'll be fine without X if it's a server
[01:37] <kapputu> does that other machine need to be running X?
[01:37] <skippy81> bootlick:  now click on search
[01:37] <richiefrich> kapputu what ssh?  or xforwarding ?
[01:37] <poje> troy_s: not totally correct, you can do it through cygwin ;)
[01:37] <[arcane] > kapputu, no
[01:37] <DarkRavenMixage> help me plz... i'm triyng to install an ati card i followed guides but when i "fglrxinfo" the console retirns this error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:37] <kapputu> xforwarding
[01:37] <bootlick> okay
[01:37] <troy_s> poje:  smarty.
[01:37] <[arcane] > ssh doesnt need X just ssh
[01:37] <skippy81> bootlick: type in "runlevel" in the seach box and hit enter
[01:37] <poje> troy_s: sometimes ;d
[01:37] <Unitg1|EoL|> troy_s:  any mail i ususally send winds up with me getting a letter from the feds afterwards
[01:38] <kakalto> on the alternate cd, do you boot into it to upgrade from it, or simply add it as an extra source?
[01:38] <troy_s> ubotu, tell richiefrich about ssh
[01:38] <nalioth> troy_s: osx has an xserver available for it
[01:38] <bootlick> found it
[01:38] <bkudria> i have a hoary install that gives me "Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)" when i try to run "apt-get update"...why?
[01:38] <Reziarfg> Can anyone help me? For some reason my internet won't work on my ubuntu machine (fresh install)
[01:38] <skippy81> bootlick:- you should get a few results, notice one of them is "sysv-rc"
[01:38] <richiefrich> kapputu  i dont think so.. but  u can use cygwin
[01:38] <troy_s> unit:  move to canada.
[01:38] <kapputu> like if I open emacs on the ssh console, I get the emacs window instead of text-mode
[01:38] <nbx909> !tell kapputu about forwardx
[01:38] <obviouslytom> how exactly do I access sudo on Ubuntu 6
[01:38] <DarkRavenMixage> help me plz... i'm triyng to install an ati card i followed guides but when i "fglrxinfo" the console retirns this error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". GLX seems not to be loaded :(
[01:38] <Unitg1|EoL|> im not welcome in canada, dont ask why
[01:38] <richiefrich> troy_s what do i need to know ?
[01:38] <nbx909> obviouslytom, sudo <command>
[01:38] <DarkRavenMixage> obviouslytom typing sudo command
[01:38] <bootlick> yes,i found that one , says i can mark for reinstalation
[01:38] <troy_s> SSH is a remarkable "does everything" sort of tool.
[01:38] <skippy81> bootlick:- also notice sysv-rc has a little ubuntu icon next to it, that means "officially supported" ie the packages that are known to work best
[01:39] <troy_s> start with that :)
[01:39] <obviouslytom> so in terminal type "sudo" then whatever file i need to run?
[01:39] <DarkRavenMixage> somebody help me plz :(
[01:39] <dagi3d> does anyone know if there is any plan of including some xgl & integration into ubuntu like in opensuse?
[01:39] <skippy81> ok bootlick, mark it for reinstallation and press apply
[01:39] <bootlick> OK
[01:39] <nbx909> !tell DarkRavenMixage about forum
[01:39] <richiefrich> troy_s i was helpin kapputu
[01:39] <Madpilot> obviouslytom, sudo then the command you want to run
[01:39] <r0xoR> anyone here know anything about getting Airports to work on iBooks?
[01:39] <troy_s> you can remote x apps from one computer to the next via ssh, you can share files, you can rsync, you can cvs, you can...
[01:39] <obviouslytom> ok
[01:39] <nalioth> dagi3d: in the next version, xgl will come standard
[01:39] <bootlick> done
[01:39] <skippy81> bootlick, also select "bum"
[01:39] <jadaz87> nbx909: ? :-(
[01:39] <kapputu> I need to setup a development server
[01:39] <mo0se> can ubuntu read ntfs?
[01:39] <DarkRavenMixage> nbx900 i looked in 200 wikis
[01:39] <skippy81> bootlick: bum is an easier to use version
[01:39] <ransu> RandolphCarter : Timing cached reads is 180MB in 2sec = 89MB/s ... using DMA = 1 (on) ... ???
[01:39] <troy_s> mo0se:  yes.
[01:39] <bootlick> done
[01:39] <nbx909> jadaz87, where do i know you from?
[01:39] <buzzed> anyone switch from OSX?
[01:39] <nalioth> mo0se: it can. yes, writing is tricky atm
[01:39] <jadaz87> nbx909: knet
[01:39] <troy_s> buzzed:  MANY
[01:39] <mo0se> ah.
[01:39] <nalioth> buzzed: i dual boot with osx
[01:39] <BlueSwirl> buzzed: thinking about it
[01:39] <mo0se> neat.
[01:39] <kapputu> the development tools need to be on the server
[01:40] <skippy81> once you have done it bootlick apply changes, close synaptic and open a terminal
[01:40] <kakalto> I guess that Edgy Eft is going to be a very experimental ubuntu :)
[01:40] <obviouslytom> Madpilot, thank you
[01:40] <obviouslytom> that worked
[01:40] <Gilly> hello all
[01:40] <DarkRavenMixage> nbx900 I SAID that i done all things taht a guide is asking.... so plz shut
[01:40] <troy_s> buzzed:  Many many many many folks.
[01:40] <Gilly> again
[01:40] <bootlick> in progress
[01:40] <DarkRavenMixage> help me plz... i'm triyng to install an ati card i followed guides but when i "fglrxinfo" the console retirns this error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". GLX seems not to be loaded :(
[01:40] <nbx909> jadaz87, why aren't you on there?
[01:40] <kapputu> and I need to be able to test on the other machine
[01:40] <Gilly> anyone have problems with the install stick at 64%?
[01:40] <jadaz87> nbx909: i have not been there so long my account has been deleted
[01:40] <mo0se> can it read a windows xp ntfs partition because i can't seem to find it.
[01:40] <bkudria> i have a hoary install that gives me "Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)" when i try to run "apt-get update"...why?
[01:40] <nbx909> DarkRavenMixage, i told you to ask your question at the forums because they are more suited for it
[01:40] <kakalto> have they fixed the ati bug that showed up 2 days before release yet?
[01:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Gilly about verify
[01:40] <nbx909> jadaz87, ahh okay
[01:40] <skippy81> bootlick in the terminal type "sudo sysv-rc-conf" to launch the more powerful program
[01:40] <nalioth> Gilly: did you burn your disc at 4x or less?
[01:40] <jadaz87> nbx909: :-)
[01:40] <cy_> hello
[01:41] <left> hi
[01:41] <bbitz> hello
[01:41] <troy_s> gilly:  could be low level optical drive problem or bad media.
[01:41] <ransu> RandolphCarter turning DMA on made it slightly slower :P
[01:41] <DarkRavenMixage> nbx909 there are 900 forums with the same question but nt a solution :(
[01:41] <troy_s> gilly:  md5sum check your disk before you try install.
[01:41] <skippy81> bootlick, or you can launch "bum" either from the system menu or by typing "gksudo bum"
[01:41] <bbitz> ubuntu...
[01:41] <troy_s> gilly:  always always always validate your media /files with md5 or gpg keys.
[01:41] <nbx909> DarkRavenMixage, well then why do you think we have the answer if 900 other people don't?
[01:41] <Pepino> hi
[01:41] <mo0se> can ubuntu read windows ntfs partitions?
[01:41] <redrumz> nbx909 actually this place has so far been the most helpful for the ati issues
[01:41] <Pepino> somebody can help me to install LILO on Ubuntu?
[01:41] <richiefrich> mo0se yes
[01:41] <troy_s> DarkRavenMixage:  send mail to ATI and tell them to support open source.
[01:41] <bootlick> i dont see bum in the system menu, but will laucnh via terminal
[01:42] <redrumz> nbx909 and issues aplenty there are
[01:42] <DarkRavenMixage> nbx909 someone in here could have fixed this didn't you think so?
[01:42] <skippy81> Gilly:  open up a terminal if you can and type "top" see if a vwdialconf is at the top of the list,
[01:42] <bbitz> I installed the server, what package would I install to pull in the Xubuntu packages?
[01:42] <left> there is a way to boot the dapper Desktop cd directly in the text-mode install? I mean, like boot=install or something like that..
[01:42] <Bot_Builder> ubotu, tell mo0se about ntfs
[01:42] <troy_s> DarkRavenMixage:  If everyone who posted did that, ATI might try listening to public pressure.
[01:42] <bootlick> gksudog
[01:42] <redrumz> DarkRavenMixage,  its ATi not ubuntu thats the problem
[01:42] <cy_> i have a question, i'm a former debian unstable user but i am not satisfied with the release circle of debian, i'm looking for something more bleeding edge.... where the community is more alive and where packages are even more up to date.... is ubuntu the right thing for me ?
[01:42] <DarkRavenMixage> troy_s i'm installing synaptic drivers not ati one
[01:42] <skippy81> bootlick, is the program working now?
[01:42] <dagi3d> cy_, sure
[01:42] <mo0se> thanks.
[01:42] <poje> cy_: gentoo? ;d
[01:42] <nbx909> redrumz, really? i perfer asking complex question at the forums because the developers and linux experts tend to hang out there
[01:42] <shodanjr_gr> guys anyone available to guide me in getting X to work again after a failed ATI Driver installation????
[01:42] <void^> cy_: arch :P
[01:42] <troy_s> Dark:  read what I said and redrumz said.
[01:42] <DarkRavenMixage> redrumz the problem is that the glx server is not starting....
[01:42] <[arcane] > arch lol
[01:42] <redrumz> darkravenmage yep keep well away from ati.com's atis drivers
[01:42] <skippy81> bootlick, sysv-rc-conf is very powerful, be very careful about what you change in it :)
[01:42] <klubber> can anyone pls tell me what's on the ubuntu dvd? up until dapper i've seen that the dvd contained all 3 architectures.... but now there's a dvd for each. so what's that 2.5GB woth of data?
[01:42] <nbx909> !tell shodanjr_gr about reconfigurex
[01:42] <[arcane] > arch doesnt  have the latest
[01:42] <richiefrich> Pepino e need to edit the /etc/lilo.conf
[01:42] <cy_> poje; gentoo is also boring, it takes too long to compile things...
[01:43] <poje> shodanjr_gr: good luck with ATI drivers ;o/
[01:43] <troy_s> Dark:  just because you CAN do something (like mp3 or ati / nvidia drivers / flash ) doesn't mean that it doesn't have harsh restrictions.
[01:43] <cy_> thanks void^
[01:43] <void^> [arcane] : they usually have the stuff that breaks :P
[01:43] <skippy81> klubber:  i would also like to know how they bloated ubuntu to use up a DVD :D
[01:43] <richiefrich> cy_ gentoo
[01:43] <shodanjr_gr> poje i doubt i can get em to work actually...my IGP is quite old (IGP320M)
[01:43] <bkudria> i have a hoary install that gives me "Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)" when i try to run "apt-get update"...how do i fix it?
[01:43] <redrumz> darkravenmage there are some helpful guides https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:43] <troy_s> Dark:  Proprietary Closed Source Items Do No One Any Good.  This is supposed to be a free and democratic society.
[01:43] <r0xoR> gentoo is for ricers :)
[01:43] <kakalto> cy_: you want to stick with a debian derivative?
[01:43] <Pepino> richiefrich: actually i have GRUB
[01:43] <kakalto> r0xoR: xD
[01:43] <Pepino> but it doesn't boot
[01:43] <[arcane] > void^, well they dont have that much as gentoo
[01:43] <poje> cy_: Yeah, hence my face - really I have been very happy with Ubuntu and would pick it as my favorite distro atm
[01:43] <skippy81> i hate gentoo, i cant believe the time it takes to compile stuff
[01:43] <amac-laptop> anyone know how to automatically have you HW addr set at boot?
[01:43] <shodanjr_gr> guys now Ubuntu freezes when srating X, how can i get a terminal screen before starting X?
[01:43] <cy_> kakalto; yes, because gentoo is taking too long compiling things....
[01:44] <richiefrich> Pepino u said lilo
[01:44] <Pepino> send me the error 17: cannot mount selected partition
[01:44] <Kazancew> Hi all
[01:44] <r0xoR> poje, http://funroll-loops.org/
[01:44] <[arcane] > shodanjr_gr,
[01:44] <skippy81> it made me phusically sick, althoguh it was kinda cool i guess :)
[01:44] <[arcane] > shodanjr_gr, well
[01:44] <bootlick> okay, the screen just came up, boot up manager
[01:44] <troy_s> shodanr:  Recovery mode boot from grub!
[01:44] <cy_> ok poje . thanks for your opinion :)
[01:44] <poje> skippy81: indeed, I have enough issues just waiting for apps to build on my uni share
[01:44] <[arcane] > shodanjr_gr, crtl alt BS
[01:44] <kakalto> cy_: you're just not a ricer :P yeah, ubuntu sounds good for ya.
[01:44] <rip> hello is there anyone to assist me during the installation of xgl?
[01:44] <shodanjr_gr> thanks :D
[01:44] <Kazancew> Any body speak russian?
[01:44] <Pepino> richiefrich: yes, then i want to get rid of grub and have lilo as my loader
[01:44] <nbx909> !tell rip about xgl
[01:44] <skippy81> ok bootlick, just be carefull about what you turn off
[01:44] <troy_s> shodanr:  change to vesa drivers in xorg.conf
[01:44] <void^> [arcane] : well gentoo does have the advantage that you can chose easily which parts of your system should be stable and which parts should be more bleeding edge :] 
[01:44] <bootlick> now to run ndiswrapper, what do i need to turn off?
[01:44] <[arcane] > void^, so true
[01:44] <shodanjr_gr> damn i gota get a new laptop.....
[01:44] <DarkRavenMixage> shodanjr_gr write sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf  search for device section and but "ati" instead of "fglrx"
[01:44] <[arcane] > cant do that w/ debian
[01:44] <kakalto> gentoo also has the best documentation around...
[01:44] <troy_s> off topic folks.
[01:45] <skippy81> poje:  i installed gnome desktop last night, went to bed and it still wasnt done in the morning lol
[01:45] <troy_s> of course you can do that with debian
[01:45] <DarkRavenMixage> shodanjr_gr write "sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (without "")  search for device section and but "ati" instead of "fglrx"
[01:45] <rip> hello is there anyone to assist me during the installation of xgl?
[01:45] <Kazancew> help please!!!!!!
[01:45] <troy_s> linux is linux.
[01:45] <rip> hello is there anyone to assist me during the installation of xgl?
[01:45] <shodanjr_gr> DarkRavenMixage i did that (i used Vi though) and now it totaly crashed :P
[01:45] <poje> r0xoR: hahahha yes, a classic!
[01:45] <richiefrich> Pepino so u have now ?
[01:45] <BlueSwirl> gentoo is crazy hardcore though, i spent 13 hours installing it and then it couldn't load the kernel
[01:45] <kakalto> !tell Kazancew about ru
[01:45] <rip> hello is there anyone to assist me during the installation of xgl?
[01:45] <DarkRavenMixage> ubotu, tell darkravenmixage about glx
[01:45] <troy_s> shodanjr:  change to vesa.
[01:45] <Jayjay2> i'm sorry but does anybody know how to make ubuntu lighter so it will run smoothly on a celeron 466 with 128 mo
[01:45] <gnomefreak> Kazancew: how may we help you? helpme doesnt define a problem
[01:45] <troy_s> sodanjr:  work from there.
[01:46] <DarkRavenMixage> i can't configure this ati radeon 9600
[01:46] <DarkRavenMixage> lol
[01:46] <troy_s> jayjay2:  try xubuntu
[01:46] <skippy81> bootlick:  you dont need to turn anything off to use ndiswrapper, just use "modprobe ndiswrapper" to load it
[01:46] <DarkRavenMixage> glx server doesn't seem to start
[01:46] <poje> Jayjay2: I'm running Dapper on my 500mhz laptop
[01:46] <BlueSwirl> Jayjay2, have you tried xubuntu?
[01:46] <BlueSwirl> oops, beaten to it
[01:46] <rip> xubuntu??
[01:46] <poje> No problems other than with a lot of tabs open in FF it kills my RAM
[01:46] <bbitz> Why did they split up ubuntu into all those different CDs?
[01:46] <bootlick> hmm, that was my starting question.. hehe
[01:46] <redrumz> DarkRavenMixage,  it only took me 4 days to get a 9600 going
[01:46] <poje> I also ran Breezy on here
[01:46] <kakalto> ubotu, tell rip about xubuntu
[01:46] <[arcane] > poje, well use opera
[01:46] <troy_s> www.ubuntu.com -- xubuntu is there.
[01:46] <Jayjay2> poje are you running gnome ?
[01:46] <poje> [arcane] : I am not unhappy with FF :)
[01:46] <poje> Jayjay2: yes
[01:46] <DarkRavenMixage> redrumz how to start the **** glx server?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> xubuntu.com >>is xubuntu home page
[01:46] <MetaMorfoziS> re
[01:46] <disinterested_pe> whats the wiki site for firefox 1.5?
[01:46] <DarkRavenMixage> he is loaded in etc/modules
[01:46] <DarkRavenMixage> and under xorg.conf
[01:47] <DarkRavenMixage> what else?
[01:47] <DarkRavenMixage> ...
[01:47] <troy_s> darkravenmage:  send mail to ati.  if they were open source, it would be supported out of box.
[01:47] <rip> what is the adress of xubuntu on irc?
[01:47] <kakalto> [arcane] : xD
[01:47] <poje> [arcane] : Really I only use the laptop for work and when I'm crashing with the gf
[01:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell disinterested_pe about ff1.5
[01:47] <nbx909> redrumz, i have a a radeon 9600 and it works best with the defult r300 drivers
[01:47] <poje> My desktop is a monster
[01:47] <kakalto> rip: #xubuntu
[01:47] <rip> ok tx =)
[01:47] <Pepino> richiefrich: i have grub and want to get rid of it an have lilo
[01:47] <Jayjay2> Is it possible to thinker ubuntu so it will be lighter I mean less services running in background
[01:47] <BlueSwirl> DarkRavenMixage, troy_s is right, send em a mail
[01:47] <czr> eleaf, stupid me. it was a setting in xmms preferences (graphical side)
[01:47] <kakalto> rip, no problem.
[01:47] <troy_s> pepino:  lilo is a little more high maintenance.
[01:47] <r0xoR> what's the deal with epiphany and galeon... is one an official part of gnome and the other isn't?
[01:47] <bkudria> i have a hoary install that gives me "Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)" when i try to run "apt-get update"...how do i fix it?
[01:47] <skippy81> Jayjay2:  yeah install "sysv-rc-conf" and disable everything :P
[01:47] <troy_s> r0xor yep.
[01:47] <richiefrich> Pepino good man..  sudo install lilo
[01:47] <czr> eleaf, need to enable 'allow multiple instances'. then xmms from cmdline will start another one. thanks for help though
[01:47] <richiefrich> Pepino good man..  sudo apt-get install lilo
[01:47] <r0xoR> troy_s, so which one is which
[01:48] <troy_s> r0xor:  Epiphany is official gnome.
[01:48] <skippy81> Jayjay2: half of the services are useless anyway
[01:48] <richiefrich> troy_s but it works... i cant say that for grub.. :)
[01:48] <troy_s> r0xor:  Although I like both.  I currently use epiphany.
[01:48] <bootlick> Skippy81 modprobe ndiswrapper does not work, giave me the same error, cannot open lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386
[01:48] <troy_s> richiefrich:  That's right.  Grub is broken.  That's why it boots millions of machines.
[01:48] <Eleaf> czr, alright, cool.  Sure, glad you figured it out =p
[01:48] <troy_s> richiefrich:  Wouldn't be user error would it?
[01:48] <skippy81> bootlick sorry you need to use sudo "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[01:48] <shodanjr_gr> hm...
[01:48] <richiefrich> troy_s well it doesnt work on may of my systems
[01:48] <Kazancew> Help please, I can not find archive of files for Ubuntu. Download very much it would be desirable for the necessary packages!!
[01:49] <richiefrich> troy_s  no
[01:49] <shodanjr_gr> i reconfigured X and choose ATI as my graphics card drive
[01:49] <troy_s> richiefrich:  Trust me.  Grub works.
[01:49] <shodanjr_gr> still no dice...
[01:49] <shodanjr_gr> it crashed
[01:49] <skippy81> bootlick, you know you need a copy of the windows drivers for your network card to run ndiswrapper?
[01:49] <shodanjr_gr> any other ideas?
[01:49] <BlueSwirl> does anyone know how to make the mouse pointer disappear after a few moments of inactivity?
[01:49] <troy_s> shodanjr:  CHANGE TO VESA
[01:49] <richiefrich> troy_s  on some yes
[01:49] <shodanjr_gr> oh
[01:49] <r0xoR> troy_s, what engine is ephiphany based off of?
[01:49] <nou> lol, {,#}{,x,g,k,ed}ubuntu that's funny. what's the opposite of factorisation ? :)
[01:49] <shodanjr_gr> doh!
[01:49] <bootlick> yes, i have the windows driver
[01:49] <bootlick> and,
[01:49] <gnomefreak> troy_s: grub doesnt work on all pcs
[01:49] <poje> Kazancew: was that a complete thought?
[01:49] <bootlick> that last command gave me the same error message
[01:49] <gnomefreak> r0xoR: gecko
[01:49] <skippy81> r0xoR:  netscape gheko i belive
[01:49] <richiefrich> gnomefreak thank you
[01:49] <troy_s> gecko
[01:49] <troy_s> beaten to the punch
[01:49] <skippy81> :)
[01:49] <Pepino> richiefrich:  ok, then it by itself will uninstall grub?
[01:49] <skippy81> people are very sharp in here today
[01:49] <Kazancew> poje MC
[01:49] <r0xoR> is gecko the same as mozilla? or no...
[01:50] <gnomefreak> richiefrich: it does just some you have alot more fdiddling to do
[01:50] <jisatsu> can anyone recommend a program to view the input from a tv tuner card?
[01:50] <Pepino> richiefrich: and replace it?
[01:50] <troy_s> vesa == video and electronics standards association == means STANDARD :)
[01:50] <Kazancew> poje MC, for begin
[01:50] <poje> Kazancew: ?
[01:50] <troy_s> jisatsu:  mythtv?
[01:50] <r0xoR> jisatsu, totem ?
[01:50] <skippy81> r0xoR:  yes its mozillas rendering engine, used in moz, ff, ephihany and the ubuntu gnome help system
[01:50] <devin_> Is there any ATI friendlys around?
[01:50] <r0xoR> hmm...
[01:50] <Kazancew> poje Midnight Comm, for begin
[01:50] <richiefrich> Pepino u can remove grub
[01:50] <troy_s> devin: no such creature.  but we can help.
[01:50] <jisatsu> I'll try totem, then myth :) I thought myth was just for recording though
[01:50] <richiefrich> Pepino u dont have to
[01:50] <`Chip`> Is there a way to install Dapper 6.06 LTS from the boot menu rather than load the live CD and select install from there?
[01:50] <bkudria> i have a hoary install that gives me "Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)" when i try to run "apt-get update"...how do i fix it?
[01:50] <skippy81> Kazancew:  im afaird im a confirmed ATI hater :)
[01:50] <troy_s> devin:  ati and nvidia should both be spanked.
[01:51] <Pepino> richiefrich: first remove grub and then install lilo?
[01:51] <Tuzlo> I removed teapop cleared any scripts out of /etc/rc2.d but syslog is still logging that it is trying to load teapop and failing, anyone know why?
[01:51] <r0xoR> jisatsu, try myth then totem
[01:51] <gnomefreak> ChakRa: download the alternative cd
[01:51] <klubber> `Chip` get the alternate cd
[01:51] <richiefrich> Pepino u can u dont have to... u can just install lilo
[01:51] <troy_s> jisatsu:  not all tv tuner cards are open source friendly... hauppage i know work.
[01:51] <gnomefreak> shoot
[01:51] <bootlick> Could nor open /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-388
[01:51] <jisatsu> r0xoR: ok :)
[01:51] <wtfm8> does anyone have a problem when booting the new dapper release, a couple seconds after it says "booting the kernel" i get a "soft lockup on cpu#0" error, then about a minute later (no message) i have to hit a key to continure
[01:51] <shodanjr_gr> woohoo
[01:51] <skippy81> bootlick, even with sudo?
[01:51] <`Chip`> LOL I am doing that now.... this sucks I've downlaoded all 3 versions Ubuntu Kubuntu and now Alternate
[01:51] <shodanjr_gr> i think that actually worked!!!
[01:51] <kloky> hello
[01:51] <Kazancew> poje where i can get Midnight Commander, for begin?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> `Chip`: download the alternative cd
[01:51] <troy_s> wtfm8:  check malone.
[01:51] <shodanjr_gr> im back in Ubuntu baby!
[01:51] <jisatsu> troy_s: if it doesn't work, no worries, just wanna try it
[01:51] <bootlick> Skippy81, yes
[01:51] <troy_s> shodanjr:  what worked?
[01:51] <skippy81> thats wierd
[01:52] <shodanjr_gr> chaning it back to vesa :p
[01:52] <bootlick> sudo modprobe ndiswrappper
[01:52] <poje> bkudria: try running update again and check/change your sources list
[01:52] <kloky> kubunto is sistem?
[01:52] <troy_s> jisatsu:  yep... mythtv home has hardware listings.
[01:52] <skippy81> ubotu tell bootlick about ndiswrapper
[01:52] <obviouslytom> anyone know where i can get ATI drivers that will actually work on my laptop?  its an ATI 9000 video card
[01:52] <Pepino> richiefrich: ok, let me try
[01:52] <redguy> !info mc
[01:52] <gnomefreak> `Chip`: to install ubuntu with the desktop cd you have to boot it first
[01:52] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[01:52] <troy_s> jisatsu:  make sure you support the companies that have an open source agenda.
[01:52] <Pepino> i'll be back
[01:52] <troy_s> obviouslytom:  send mail to ati.
[01:52] <BrianHH> Hi, Everyone.  I'm having a RealPlayer problem.  When I try to play a video clip, the sound goes in and out and is garbled.  Has anyone experienced this?  (Ubuntu 6.06, btw)
[01:52] <troy_s> ubotu, tell obviouslytom about ati
[01:52] <redguy> huh? ubotu still has the breezy package list?
[01:52] <shodanjr_gr> since ATI driver installation failed im gona try to get my network card working :p
[01:52] <skippy81> does anyone here who knows a lot about ndiswrapper advise bootlick please?
[01:53] <bkudria> poje: i tried many times...and my sources.list is a recommended one from the forums
[01:53] <_jason> !info mc dapper
[01:53] <gnomefreak> redguy: people still use breezy
[01:53] <troy_s> brianhh:  realplayer is proprietary software.
[01:53] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 2073 kB, Installed size: 5952 kB
[01:53] <jisatsu> troy_s: that's all good and well if I were buying a new card, but I have one already ;)
[01:53] <troy_s> brianhh:  you might want to try an open source alternative.
[01:53] <Kazancew> me need direct link to file
[01:53] <`Chip`> thanks...I will know for next time
[01:53] <redguy> gnomefreak: sure, but shouldnt bdapper be the default now?
[01:53] <troy_s> jisatsu:  in the future then... :)
[01:53] <BrianHH> troy_s:  I've got Helix installed to, with the same problem.  Can mplayer play RealPlayer streams?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> redguy: how do you decide default?
[01:54] <[arcane] > BrianG, no
[01:54] <richiefrich> BrianHH mplayer
[01:54] <redguy> gnomefreak: current stable of course :-)
[01:54] <[arcane] > BrianHH,
[01:54] <[arcane] > BrianHH, no
[01:54] <poje> bkudria: I'd say watch the ubuntu wiki, when I googled it seems there were a couple other people with the problem
[01:54] <troy_s> brianhh:  helix isn't entirely open source -- the real codecs are still closed :(
[01:54] <[arcane] > only realplayer can
[01:54] <devin_> Need help .. I have a R-40 thinkpad laptop, It has a Radeon Mobility 7500 but I can't seem to get the right drivers to work for it
[01:54] <bkudria> poje: i googled it anf got nothing, but i'll try again, thanks
[01:54] <richiefrich> BrianHH xine  vlc mplayer
[01:54] <poje> BrianHH: Real has a linux player they release that does work, even though Real is a dirty hobag
[01:54] <troy_s> brianhh:  which means you should not use realplayer streams...
[01:55] <BlueSwirl> realplayer, along with windows media player, fill me with pain
[01:55] <skippy81> devon_ set xorg to "radeon" maybe
[01:55] <troy_s> brianhh:  as the codec is very limited -- don't try with a 64 bit box for example (without hoop jumping) etc.
[01:55] <Pepino> richiefrich: sorry, is there a wa of install LILO on the setup of ubuntu?
[01:55] <troy_s> blueswirl:  amen.
[01:55] <Kazancew> Help please, I can not adjust VPN !!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
[01:55] <troy_s> vlc is VERY good.
[01:55] <troy_s> and has a streaming end.
[01:55] <BrianHH> Okay, I just installed mplayer.
[01:55] <gnomefreak> Pepino: sudo apt-get install lilo
[01:55] <poje> mplayer ftw!
[01:55] <BlueSwirl> troy_s, vlc is the shiznit, as it were
[01:55] <poje> Even though it has it's limitations.
[01:55] <[arcane] > troy_s, yeah i use it instead of mplayer plugin
[01:55] <troy_s> but Real's codec (i don't know if i can even type it here legally) and MS's and Apple's and the list goes on STINK
[01:55] <skippy81> troy_s have you found a way to stop vlc from opening a new instance everytime you click on a new file in linux?
[01:55] <troy_s> don't support those companies.
[01:55] <bootlick> skippy81, how do i tell what install i have, ie hedgehog, breezy, etc etc
[01:56] <stylez> alloha peepz
[01:56] <richiefrich> Pepino on the install yes
[01:56] <troy_s> skippy: i seem to remember getting that yes.
[01:56] <stylez> i got a question about rythmbox
[01:56] <bkudria> poje: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sub-process+bzip2+returned+an+error+code+(2)%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8  zero results
[01:56] <gnomefreak> bootlick: lsb_release -a
[01:56] <troy_s> go stylez
[01:56] <richiefrich> Pepino  u must select it over grub.. grub is the default
[01:56] <Pepino> richiefrich: i guess at the partition time
[01:56] <stylez> i can't play mp3 files with rythmbox, but i can play them with xmms
[01:56] <poje> troy_s: unfortunately, I care more about getting content (to a point) than the lofty goals of open codecs
[01:56] <[arcane] > grub is good
[01:56] <Pepino> richiefrich: right?
[01:56] <richiefrich> Pepino yes
[01:56] <stylez> why isn't RB working?
[01:56] <Pepino> ok
[01:56] <poje> bkudria: that's with quotes, right?
[01:56] <Pepino> thanks
[01:56] <poje> Remove the quotes
[01:56] <Kazancew> Help please, I can not adjust VPN !!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
[01:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell stylez about mp3
[01:56] <[arcane] > poje, well vlc is universial
[01:56] <Pepino> richiefrich: let me try
[01:56] <Pepino> richiefrich:  I'll be back
[01:57] <richiefrich> Pepino ooh ok
[01:57] <troy_s> bootlick:  system:  about ubuntu
[01:57] <[arcane] > can play most if not all media types
[01:57] <gnomefreak> Kazancew: stop that and tell us what is wrong
[01:57] <bkudria> poje: right
[01:57] <redguy> Kazancew: istead of repeating yourself, ask a question
[01:57] <poje> [arcane] : Yes, I need to try it on linux - I actually thought it was win32 only
[01:57] <redguy> !tell Kazancew about ask
[01:57] <troy_s> poje: almost EVERY player in open source land will play EVERY codec it can -- meaning if the source is available.
[01:57] <[arcane] > Kazancew, see that why ppl dont like helping
[01:57] <stylez> with ubuntu 5 i can play the files with rythm but ubuntu 6 it wont work, first i thought i came by the codecs
[01:57] <[arcane] > poje, i did too
[01:57] <skippy81> bootlick:  look in /etc/apt/sources.list and see if it says "dapper" or "breezy" in it
[01:57] <bkudria> poje: aha, i removed the quotes, and now there is a bunch of stuff...thanks
[01:57] <gnomefreak> skippy81: lsb_release -a
[01:57] <shodanjr_gr> guys
[01:58] <shodanjr_gr> in dapper
[01:58] <poje> troy_s: yes, but most of my files are wmv or mp3
[01:58] <symetric> does anyone know how to change windows driveletters from linux? my windows stopped working after installing ubuntu, and i just found out that ubuntu stole c:. i can't get windows working atm :P
[01:58] <troy_s> poje:  if the source code isn't available for ENCODING __and__ DECODING, avoid it like the plague.  also avoid patent / end user licences etc.
[01:58] <shodanjr_gr> how can i install ndiswrapper?
[01:58] <Pjott> Hi all! =) Downloading Ubuntu Linux now. Windows = Dead to me (-: So freakin' sick and tired of viruses/trojans/spyware etc. :) So. Does there exist viruses for Linux? I've heard it do, but you have to run a command to be able to run it. And in that case, you ask for it, you desirve it. :) Is that true?
[01:58] <skippy81> thanks gnomefreak :)
[01:58] <gnomefreak> skippy81: yw
[01:58] <troy_s> poje:  you can have a script that fixes that in a very limited time span
[01:58] <shodanjr_gr> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?action=show&redirect=SetupNdiswrapperHowto im following the instructions from this site
[01:58] <[arcane] > symetric, umm
[01:58] <troy_s> poje:  simply batch vert them.
[01:58] <shodanjr_gr> but the link aseems to be down
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell shodanjr_gr about ndiswrapper
[01:58] <stylez> i am also a gnomejunk
[01:58] <poje> troy_s: But I want content I WANT, not just content that is FREE (as in freedom)
[01:58] <[arcane] > symetric, dude linux doesnt use "C:\"
[01:58] <symetric> [arcane] :  i know.
[01:58] <troy_s> poje:  and do _not_ look back.
[01:58] <stylez> kde is nive for showing, but not for working
[01:58] <richiefrich>   shodanjr_gr    apt-get install ndiswrapper
[01:58] <stylez> nive = nice
[01:58] <[arcane] > well just use a MS resuce disk
[01:58] <BlueSwirl> Pjott, just get yourself a nice virus scanner like clamx, and be careful what you download!
[01:58] <troy_s> poje:  that is not possible.  freedom implies choice.
[01:58] <poje> troy_s: actually, you make a good point when we're not talking about watching wimp.com vids or browsing teh pr0n ;d
[01:58] <skippy81> bootlick:  as gnomefreak pointed out you can do "lsb_release -a" from a teminal
[01:58] <asdx> I was downloading a ubuntu iso of one of the http servers and I can't connect to the server now WTF!
[01:59] <Pjott> BlueSwirl: Will do, sir! =)
[01:59] <troy_s> poje:  and tell your pr0n vendors the problems with patent laden garbage.
[01:59] <[arcane] > there are only ew viruses for linux mainly fedora
[01:59] <symetric> [arcane] :  i did. that's how i found out that windows is currently settled in d: :P
[01:59] <poje> troy_s: I have the choice to illegally use the nonfree codecs ;)
[01:59] <BrianHH> I'm trying to play a video clip that a friend sent me a link to.  Unfortunately, the link is in this form:  http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/cheerleaders/avRPPlayer.jsp?dr=43559&kj=13&f2=Video%20Profile:%20Jennifer%20K.&s5=   Mplayer laughs at it.
[01:59] <Pjott> ... ma'm? :s
[01:59] <gnomefreak> asdx: thats why people use bittorrents
[01:59] <adam> how do i get xmms volume control to work?
[01:59] <void^> asdx: use bittorrent :] 
[01:59] <[arcane] > symetric, well if you really need MS get rid of ubuntu
[01:59] <troy_s> poje:  true, but you need to help the rest of us.
[01:59] <[arcane] > and reinstall
[01:59] <BlueSwirl> Pjott, but yeah, you'll be safer than windows (sir ;-) )
[01:59] <troy_s> poje:  well you don't but you could.
[01:59] <symetric> do you think that'll work?
[01:59] <asdx> ok
[01:59] <troytroy> hi i need a pkg to copy protected content
[01:59] <troy_s> pjott:  NO computer is safe.  period.
[01:59] <greg_> how does one upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06? I've tried looking in the forums... but now I'm here- any comments
[02:00] <troy_s> !upgrade
[02:00] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[02:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell greg_ about upgrade
[02:00] <kakalto> greg_: launch the update manager
[02:00] <Pjott> troy_s: Accepted. Well, then I'm off (-: See you all after I've re-installed (-:
[02:00] <poje> troy_s: I do my best to promote Free *, but at a certain point I just give in and deal
[02:00] <skippy81> troytroy:  what sort of 'content' are you talking about here lol
[02:00] <greg_> oh duh
[02:00] <BlueSwirl> Pjott, good luck.
[02:00] <richiefrich> symetric just put it in grb
[02:00] <[arcane] > troytroy, well that depends
[02:00] <troy_s> skippy:  he said pr0n, not I.  hell i guess we need open source everywhere don't we?
[02:00] <Pjott> And one last thing: Is it possible to run Counter-Strike 1.6 (AKA Steam) on Ubuntu? Mandriva has "Wine"-Emulator. But it took me about 2-3 days to make it run...
[02:00] <shodanjr_gr> richiefrich that didnt work.... package not found
[02:00] <troytroy> skippy81, movie on cd
[02:00] <richiefrich> symetric or lilo what ever u use
[02:01] <[arcane] > richiefrich, no ubuntu messed up his layput
[02:01] <troy_s> troytroy:  what's the codec?
[02:01] <skippy81> M$ and apple proprietary codecs are best off in the dustbin IMO, convert your existing stuff and then uninstall em
[02:01] <adam> you can run Counter-Strike on ubuntu
[02:01] <symetric> richiefrich: lilo?
[02:01] <redguy> Pjott: wine does not belong to mandriva
[02:01] <symetric> grb?
[02:01] <troy_s> skippy:  AMEN!
[02:01] <adam> its possible
[02:01] <BlueSwirl> Pjott, you'll have difficulty
[02:01] <Pjott> adam: With an emulator?
[02:01] <richiefrich> shodanjr_gr then look in synaptic
[02:01] <symetric> i'm really new to this o_O
[02:01] <adam> wine
[02:01] <redguy> Pjott: you can install wine on ubuntu as well
[02:01] <adam> i did it with breezy last week
[02:01] <richiefrich> symetric  the 1st boot loader
[02:01] <Pjott> adam: Sure :)
[02:01] <Pjott> Well, See you all then! ;)
[02:01] <adam> but the fps was really bad
[02:01] <poje> adam: unfortunately, I haven't been able to get it going
[02:01] <troy_s> symetric:  don't worry, there are a lot of green folks here.  and you never stop learning.
[02:01] <poje> I can get Steam to run
[02:01] <Pjott> Thanks for all advices/help :)
[02:01] <[arcane] > richiefrich, dude his letters changed
[02:01] <poje> But launching CS kills everything
[02:01] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  has any one here install aircrack-ng on their Ubuntu system?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell poje about steam
[02:02] <[arcane] > Jeeves_Moss, lol
[02:02] <troy_s> pjott:  you can escape the prison.
[02:02] <BlueSwirl> Pjott, get clam, not clamx, that's the mac version
[02:02] <stylez> i am very very very happy by ubuntu
[02:02] <adam> do u have all the fonts, gl plugins, updates etc
[02:02] <[arcane] > Jeeves_Moss, id use a live cd like PHLAK
[02:02] <Pjott> clam. Noted :)
[02:02] <symetric> richiefrich: ok. i don't know which one i use, but windows shows up as the last alternative.
[02:02] <troy_s> stylez:  spread the word.
[02:02] <richiefrich> [arcane]  if he doesnt have it in the grub.conf it will never boot to windfows
[02:02] <poje> skippy81: and what do you say to new content coming out? say, for instance, the videos on wimp.com
[02:02] <stylez> hehe
[02:02] <skippy81> to be fair to ubuntu, we have a pretty awesome chat room hehe - im sure most of the other distros dont have this level of volunteer support
[02:02] <[arcane] > richiefrich, ok
[02:02] <troy_s> stylez:  open source needs supporters.  read stallman's essays and understand why it is deadly important.
[02:02] <BlueSwirl> Pjott, woopsy ;-)
[02:02] <beerockxs> I'm experiencing strange flickering in the 3d screensavers.
[02:02] <richiefrich> symetric okand does it try to boot ?
[02:02] <ne0h> hey
[02:02] <troy_s> www.fsf.org
[02:02] <[arcane] > skippy81, actually yes they do
[02:02] <Jeeves_Moss> <[arcane] >  what are you laughing @?  I had 2.23 installed and working fine till I reinstalled Ubuntu
[02:02] <beerockxs> Anyone have an idea what might cause that?
[02:02] <stylez> i am a opensource promoter
[02:02] <symetric> richiefrich:  so i should check grub.conf ?
[02:03] <ne0h> can someone help me , i dont know how to install the prgram
[02:03] <troy_s> beerockxs:  nvidia driver issue
[02:03] <adam> which 1
[02:03] <[arcane] > Jeeves_Moss, well i can lol at what i want
[02:03] <ne0h> i burnt the ubuntu, iso file
[02:03] <gnomefreak> ne0h: what program?
[02:03] <stylez> i was programming for 5 years on windows, but last november i found linux by a coinsidence
[02:03] <ne0h> how do i run it
[02:03] <stylez> i love the shell
[02:03] <beerockxs> troy_s: I have an ATI card, and use the open source drivers.
[02:03] <Jeeves_Moss> <[arcane] >  are you able to help me install it or not?
[02:03] <troy_s> stylez:  it is purely about knowledge and EDUCATION of others.
[02:03] <gnomefreak> stylez: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[02:03] <[arcane] > ne0h, reboot w/ it in the cd dive
[02:03] <dothanonline> hi
[02:03] <ne0h> i tryed that
[02:03] <adam> lol
[02:03] <troy_s> beerockxs:  yah the cards do sometimes do 'weird' things because of the closed nature ofthe cards.
[02:03] <gnomefreak> ne0h: you havent said what program
[02:03] <ne0h> it did work
[02:03] <[arcane] > Jeeves_, look for a arepository
[02:03] <ne0h> yea i did
[02:03] <ne0h> ubuntu
[02:03] <adam> ne0h config ur bios
[02:03] <[arcane] > Jeeves_Moss, hell install a app come on
[02:03] <poje> stylez: I'm sorry, I've done about 2hrs of win32 programming and it made me sad in the pants
[02:04] <ne0h> to do what
[02:04] <dothanonline> i need help to mount ntfs partition
[02:04] <PetrolBomb> boot from cd in bios
[02:04] <Demential> quick question, ive got dvd video and audio, shoutcast audio, but i cant play an mp3, is there a library i have to install with an mp3 decoder?
[02:04] <ne0h> oh
[02:04] <PetrolBomb> Select
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ne0h: did you install it?
[02:04] <redguy> !tell ne0h about iso
[02:04] <ne0h> ill try that
[02:04] <jpederzolli> whats the best itunes alternative?
[02:04] <BlueSwirl> poje, lol
[02:04] <r0xoR> every time i select a package to install in synaptic i get a warning dialog saying "NOT AUTHENTICATED"
[02:04] <skippy81> poje:  to be honest i dont use that media much myself, but i guess if you do use proprietary codecs to listen to it, then it doesnt make you a bad person :) but then again things would be better if users in genral rejected such codecs so we could all listen freely and easily
[02:04] <bkudria> poje: i looked, but there really isn't a solution that helps
[02:04] <troy_s> jpederzolli:  there are HUNDREDS
[02:04] <redguy> ne0h: read the second link about burning the iso
[02:04] <[arcane] > jpederzolli, if you use gnome banshee
[02:04] <poje> Demential: mplayer or VLC ;)
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jpederzolli about ipod
[02:04] <troy_s> jpederzolli:  try rhytmbox default until you don't like it
[02:04] <nalioth> i have been hit with the dns name resolution bug, anyone got the fix right off the top of their heads?
[02:04] <r0xoR> i looked under the authentication tab in the repo setup for synaptic
[02:04] <r0xoR> and it's blank
[02:04] <troy_s> ubotu, tell me about ipod
[02:04] <poje> bkudria: yeah, hence keep an eye on the wiki/forums :)
[02:04] <jpederzolli> thanks
[02:04] <adam> how do u get the xmms volume control to work?
[02:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell troy_s about msg the bot
[02:05] <[arcane] > adam, alsamixer
[02:05] <adam> k
[02:05] <gnomefreak> shoot bbl bad storm rolling in
[02:05] <Demential> poje:  vlc is a sl*t hehe...  but mplayer short for movieplayer?
[02:05] <troy_s> vlc is very good
[02:05] <troy_s> mplayer is mplayer
[02:05] <Demential> k thanks troy
[02:05] <troy_s> mplayer is a VERY powerful tool.
[02:05] <Demential> ill dig it up
[02:05] <BlueSwirl> consider vlc seconded
[02:05] <bullrage> What's the best newsgroup NZB reader?
[02:05] <troy_s> mplayer make no mistake.  as is vlc
[02:05] <skippy81> ok we need to establish a fix for this DNS bug people are talking about, ive heard it mentioned several times today - does anyone know anything about it?
[02:06] <poje> skippy81: yes, I would be a lot happier with free/open *; however, I try to pick my fights - support free options whenever possible, crumble before the man when I'm being a little biatch ;o/
[02:06] <poje> and with that, it's dinner time
[02:06] <Demential> ya...  i've been in love with videolan for years now
[02:06] <troy_s> mplayer they both have their upsides -- vlc for streaming and mplayer for video adjusting.
[02:06] <nalioth> skippy81: i can ping IPs fine, just no name resolution
[02:06] <Demential> makes me horny like no women can
[02:06] <BlueSwirl> Demential, o_0
[02:06] <Demential> wait...  ignore that
[02:06] <Demential> kik'
[02:06] <troy_s> skippy:  is it at malone?
[02:06] <skippy81> nalioth, yeah i spoke to others with same problem - are you a) behind a router, and b) on a live CD?
[02:06] <MaKkY> i made a partition.. & i want to install XP on that partition....
[02:06] <troy_s> malone #
[02:07] <MaKkY> how do i go about doing that?
[02:07] <obviouslytom> anyone know why Ubuntu doesnt support Intels HyperThreading?
[02:07] <troy_s> ubotu malone 8190
[02:07] <[arcane] > MaKkY, should install MS first
[02:07] <skippy81> troy_s:  excuse my ignorance, what is malone?
[02:07] <nalioth> skippy81: i've got more computers than i know what to do with, behind a router
[02:07] <ubotu> Malone: Bug #8190 in debian-installer (Ubuntu): No keymap selection.
[02:07] <beerockxs> troy_s: It worked just fine about a month ago, before I updated to Dapper. DRI is workig, too, and glxgears does not show the flickering
[02:07] <troy_s> skippy:  launchpad malone, you know.
[02:07] <troytroy> hi i need a bittorrent with a gui
[02:07] <skippy81> oh i will check
[02:07] <[arcane] > troytroy, man
[02:07] <troytroy> dont like azerus
[02:07] <troy_s> troytroy:  apt-cache search torrent
[02:07] <[arcane] > troytroy, there are tons use synaprics
[02:07] <troy_s> troytroy:  try bittornado
[02:07] <[arcane] > rtorrent is the best
[02:07] <bullrage> What's the best newsgroup NZB reader?
[02:07] <jrsims> ok, how come my function keys aren't recognized in Gnome terminal?>
[02:08] <troy_s> troytroy:  it gets religious
[02:08] <redguy> nalioth, skippy81 : isn't it related to this fancy resolvconf thing which is supposed to generate /etc/resolv.conf ?
[02:08] <theBeno> Guys, I've got a question...Why do you guys prefer ubuntu over other distros like Gentoo?
[02:08] <nalioth> redguy: it is related to resolv.conf, i just don't know what to do about it
[02:08] <[arcane] > theBeno, i dont
[02:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i can't find my networking interface list, could someone give me the file path ? i'm a n00b and forgot
[02:08] <BlueSwirl> is there limewire for linux? i'm rather fond of that for my mac
[02:08] <troy_s> thebeno:  off topic.  it has a chance to actually make open source mainstream.
[02:08] <wubrgamer> ubuntu is easier, and better developed
[02:08] <[arcane] > BlueSwirl, yes
[02:08] <r0xoR> BlueSwirl, limewire is java
[02:08] <redguy> nalioth: is your resolv.conf empty now?
[02:08] <bobstro> theBeno:  because it's a debian underneath.
[02:08] <skippy81> redguy, well tahts what i thought at first
[02:08] <[arcane] > wubrgamer, better developed
[02:08] <r0xoR> BlueSwirl, and there is java for linux
[02:08] <_jason> BlueSwirl: there is, but I would reocmmend frostwire which is a limewire clone instead
[02:08] <[arcane] > no
[02:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i can't find my networking interface list, could someone give me the file path ? i'm a n00b and forgot
[02:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i can't find my networking interface list, could someone give me the file path ? i'm a n00b and forgot
[02:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i can't find my networking interface list, could someone give me the file path ? i'm a n00b and forgot
[02:08] <r0xoR> BlueSwirl, so yes
[02:08] <BlueSwirl> ah, shiny
[02:08] <wubrgamer> sorry didn 't mean to spam
[02:09] <BlueSwirl> duly noted ;-)
[02:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell BlueSwirl about frostwire
[02:09] <nalioth> redguy: haven't even looked yet
[02:09] <theBeno> bobstro, and you prefer the debian distro?
[02:09] <BigBlue> hi, how do i start apache when i used apt-get to install it?
[02:09] <[arcane] > wubrgamer, and you say ubuntu is better wtf lol
[02:09] <redguy> wubrgamer: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:09] <_jason> BigBlue: it should start automatically
[02:09] <wubrgamer> thnx
[02:09] <troy_s> ubotu, bugs are at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[02:09] <jrsims> Seriously - is anyone else having trouble getting F1-F12 keys to work in Gnome terminal?
[02:09] <bobstro> theBeno:  i prefer distributions *based* on debian, yes.
[02:09] <maikol> BigBlue: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[02:09] <wubrgamer> once more "n00b"
[02:09] <BigBlue> ty
[02:09] <wubrgamer> don't listen to me
[02:09] <theBeno> bobstro, Why?
[02:10] <Tuzlo> how do you stop inetutils from trying to runsomething?
[02:10] <[arcane] > theBeno, gentoo is good for hardcore ppl
[02:10] <bobstro> theBeno:  because i suffered through rpm hell for long enough until i found debian some years ago.
[02:10] <troy_s> what is the dns issue skippy?
[02:10] <MaKkY> arcane, how...
[02:10] <bobstro> theBeno:  and don't have time for gentoo. :)
[02:10] <theBeno> bobstro, Why not use Slackware or other distros?
[02:10] <[arcane] > MaKkY, cause you can run unstable and stable
[02:10] <troy_s> ubotu, malone 35732
[02:10] <nalioth> troy_s: ubotu knows bugs
[02:10] <obviouslytom> anyone know if Ubuntu supports Intels HyperThreading
[02:10] <bobstro> theBeno:  but linux is linux. it's a question of install and maintenance.
[02:10] <[arcane] > MaKkY, cant do that in debian
[02:10] <ubotu> Malone: Bug #35732 in dhcp3 (Ubuntu): Weird dhcp errors
[02:10] <nalioth> troy_s: /msg ubotu bugs
[02:10] <troytroy> seems bittorrent-gui is no more in the repos
[02:11] <bobstro> theBeno:  i have.
[02:11] <nalioth> troy_s: woops, /msg ubotu bug
[02:11] <MaKkY> [arcane]  but how do i install MS first?
[02:11] <ne0h> hey
[02:11] <Tuzlo> !inetutils
[02:11] <ubotu> Tuzlo: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:11] <ne0h> i cant get ubuntu to work
[02:11] <[arcane] > MaKkY, install it then install ubuntu
[02:11] <Phuzion> Where are the error logs for Apache in Ubuntu?
[02:11] <theBeno> I use Gentoo because I have the choice to do anything, built it how I want.  apt-get is on ubuntu?
[02:11] <[arcane] > ne0h, what did you use to burn it
[02:11] <ne0h> a dvd
[02:11] <MaKkY> [arcane]  im on ubuntu right now....
[02:11] <maikol> Phuzion: /var/log/apache2
[02:11] <Phuzion> thanks
[02:11] <[arcane] > ne0h, no
[02:11] <redguy> Phuzion: /var/log/apache2/
[02:11] <ne0h> deepburnner
[02:11] <[arcane] > ne0h, im mean what app
[02:12] <ne0h> burner
[02:12] <bobstro> theBeno:  you can do the same with *any* distribution. it's a question of how much time you want to spend doing it (if at all).
[02:12] <ne0h> deepburner
[02:12] <ne0h> burnt the iso on the cd
[02:12] <[arcane] > ne0h, did you burn it as a iso or just as data
[02:12] <ne0h> as a iso
[02:12] <redguy> ne0h: did you read the burniso link ubotu sent you?
[02:12] <ne0h> i didnt get it
[02:12] <bobstro> theBeno:  most distros seem to be moving towards each other in many ways.
[02:12] <beerockxs> I'm experiencing strange flickering in the 3d screensavers, using a Radeon 8500 and the open source drivers. Anyone have an idea?
[02:12] <theBeno> Yeah, emerge is a sweet system though.  bobstro, you prefer apt-get over emerge?
[02:12] <redguy> ne0h: what are the contenst of the dvd right now?
[02:12] <jrsims> OK PLEASE HELP - I need to get X to recognize my function keys. How do I do that.
[02:12] <ne0h> in my cd driver
[02:13] <[arcane] > jrsims, google it dude
[02:13] <troy_s> jrsims:  does your keyboard have a F-lock on it?
[02:13] <molinero> Hi to all
[02:13] <ne0h> oh i mean just the iso
[02:13] <[arcane] > ne0h, cds cant read dvds
[02:13] <Rob3rth> anyone got an alternative to #cedega? I am banned there without any reasons, ive never been on that channel:(
[02:13] <jrsims> troy_s: no
[02:13] <bobstro> theBeno:  you'll notice they're changing how gentoo installs, right?
[02:13] <ne0h> its a dvd cd
[02:13] <theBeno> bobstro, Yes, they have a GUI for x86
[02:13] <redguy> ne0h: ok, what's on the dvd?
[02:13] <jrsims> troy_s: it's a standard dell keyboard
[02:13] <ne0h> i have a dvd wrighter
[02:13] <ne0h> just the iso
[02:13] <ne0h> thats it
[02:13] <redguy> ne0h: a single .iso file?
[02:13] <ne0h> yea
[02:13] <[arcane] > bobstro, its not a standard gi installer
[02:13] <redguy> !tell ne0h about iso
[02:13] <shinu> how do i get xmms to play audio cds?
[02:14] <redguy> ne0h: read the second link
[02:14] <nalioth> ah ha, my resolve.conf has my nameserver on my own system.  no wonder
[02:14] <troy_s> shinu:  iirc you need your audio cable from your board to your drive to hear them.
[02:14] <troy_s> shinu:  other than that it should just play
[02:14] <bobstro> theBeno:  when someone can tell me one thing i can do with one distro over another, i'll worry more about it. meanwhile, ubuntu is mostly debian, and easy to show others, and quick to install and reconfigure on my stuff.
[02:14] <gil_> could someone tell me how to install bootsplash screens
[02:14] <shinu> troy_s: something worng with the cd then :/ thx
[02:14] <distanceisdeath> how can i play m4a files on XMMS, i can play them on amarok and other things though.
[02:15] <troy_s> bobstro:  well said.  AND it is going to get sun official head nod
[02:15] <theBeno> bobstro, But there are problems if you try and update the entire system using apt-get.
[02:15] <Gretyl> anyone want to help me with mac-on-linux?
[02:15] <troy_s> shinu:  yah it should just work.  make sure you have your audio cable though!
[02:15] <troy_s> gretyl:  what is mac on linux?  you want to emulate mac?
[02:15] <Tuzlo> Do I need Inetutils installed?
[02:15] <[zero] > is there a way to get rpm to work in ubuntu?
[02:15] <zexr0> is there a way to see if a device is detected on my usb port
[02:15] <nbx909> Gretyl, you mean linux on mac?
[02:16] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, no, mac-on-linux lets you run osx inside linux.
[02:16] <troy_s> zero:  alien
[02:16] <Krhis2> Ok, my question is simple: Ext3 or ReiserFS? I've spent the last few hours looking at statistics, numbers, and articals where one user reports one thing and the next user states something completely contridictive but what do you guys think?
[02:16] <Krhis2> ReiserFS might seem faster (at least for /home) but is it worth the risk of corruption/recovery even though it's still journalized?
[02:16] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, oh cool
[02:16] <beerockxs> I'm experiencing strange flickering in the 3d screensavers, using a Radeon 8500 and the open source drivers. Anyone have an idea?
[02:16] <ne0h> screw this
[02:16] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, it's most sexy, but not used it myself
[02:16] <bobstro> theBeno:  there *can* be problems, but trivial compared to others i've had with non-debian systems. *and* (again) i can show others how to do it.
[02:16] <jrsims> troy_s: do you know how I can change my keyboard settings for xorg?
[02:16] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, why not run it natively lol
[02:16] <Gretyl> nbx909: I could, but I specifically refer to the ability to boot OS X inside of linux
[02:16] <troy_s> beerrockxs:  you could try syncing to vert
[02:16] <[zero] > troy_s: alien?
[02:16] <ne0h> i cant get this to work at all
[02:17] <bobstro> theBeno:  my server has been upgraded via apt-get for oh... 5+ years now.
[02:17] <troy_s> zero:  alien
[02:17] <redguy> Krhis2: ext3 isn't immune to corruptions as well
[02:17] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, that's what my other machine is for. ;-)
[02:17] <beerockxs> troy_s: how do i set that?
[02:17] <bobstro> ne0h:  what?
[02:17] <nbx909> heh
[02:17] <ne0h> i cant get the iso to work
[02:17] <nbx909> i need a mac
[02:17] <[zero] > troy_s:  what do you mean?
[02:17] <nbx909> lol
[02:17] <ne0h> i did everything i was supposed to
[02:17] <Krhis2> Apprently it's easier to recover.
[02:17] <troy_s> beer:  should be able to do it via xorg.
[02:17] <ne0h> it still dosent work
[02:17] <Gretyl> I'm dual-booting now
[02:17] <troy_s> zero:  wiki alien
[02:17] <ne0h> im going to try to make a different cd
[02:17] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, once you go mac, you never go back ;-)
[02:17] <Shooksterleet> I've got a emachines m5310 notebook with the broadcom bcm4401 network card. It's my understanding that it should have detected/install it on it's own but it didn't.. Any suggestions for how to procede?
[02:17] <Gretyl> just thought this might help with the whole "no flash plugin" issue
[02:17] <green_earz> Krhis2: from what i read Ext3  is best for large file and ReiserFS for lots of small files
[02:17] <shodanjr_gr> ffs....
[02:17] <bobstro> theBeno:  quick question. how long did your last major upgrade take?
[02:17] <troytroy> hi my irssi cant start
[02:18] <shodanjr_gr> i get my wlan card installed
[02:18] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, once you go mac you go broke :P
[02:18] <shodanjr_gr> i get it to detect my access point
[02:18] <seife> Someone help me
[02:18] <[zero] > troy_s: kk
[02:18] <zexr0> Someone can help me with a SmartJoy problem ?
[02:18] <shodanjr_gr> i give it my WEP key
[02:18] <seife> How do i mount my windows partition?
[02:18] <shodanjr_gr> and it doesnt connect...
[02:18] <bobstro> nbx909:  and steve jobs owns your soul.
[02:18] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, tell me about it. anyone want a kidney? ;-)
[02:18] <shinu> troy_s: its a laptop so it should all be hooked up already
[02:18] <amac-laptop> does the default ubuntu kernel support smp?
[02:18] <Krhis2> green_earz, Ext3 is kinda more of a jack-of-all-trades.
[02:18] <redguy> !tell seife about ntfs
[02:18] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, rofl
[02:18] <Krhis2> But you're right.
[02:18] <troy_s> shinu:  right you are.  could be any number of issues.  see if you can get A cd to play.
[02:18] <theBeno> bobstro, lol, a while, but I can just do it when I go to bed, never wasted any time that I needed to use the computer.
[02:19] <bobstro> theBeno:  and if you had to upgrade several?
[02:19] <shinu> Toba: okay
[02:19] <Krhis2> Anyone ever have ReiserFS go 'sour' on them?
[02:19] <troytroy> hi my irssi cant start "Unable to connect server ... "
[02:19] <bobstro> theBeno:  my family uses four, plus server.
[02:19] <Gretyl> in theory, the kernel modules needed for mac-on-linux should be built into dapper...
[02:19] <shodanjr_gr> and i am stupid
[02:19] <Gretyl> but when I try to startmol, it complains about missing modules
[02:19] <shodanjr_gr> because
[02:19] <shodanjr_gr> i was giving it the WEP key in plaintext while the type was set to HEX
[02:19] <troy_s> gretyl:  try a sep drive and boot clean.
[02:20] <theBeno> bobstro, hmm
[02:20] <troy_s> gretyl:  they are all of about 40 bucks these days and they save a ton of hassle.
[02:20] <jrsims> oh my god - does ANYONE in here know how I can get back to my keyboard setup for xorg?
[02:20] <troy_s> jrsims:  you can reconfigure x
[02:20] <nbx909> !tell jrsims about reconfigurex
[02:20] <troy_s> jrsims:  dpkg-rconfigure xorg-server (can't remember)
[02:20] <bobstro> theBeno:  this sums it up for me (with a bit of humor) http://funroll-loops.org/
[02:20] <jrsims> ok
[02:21] <Krhis2> !tell Krhis2 about reiserfs
[02:21] <Dubuntu> "Doo-buntu"
[02:21] <theBeno> lol, ok
[02:21] <nbx909> !reconfigurex
[02:21] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, run the command         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:21] <Gretyl> troy_s: I just installed dapper yesterday, shouldn't need a fresh install already...
[02:21] <Krhis2> !tell Krhis2 about ext3
[02:21] <troy_s> gretyl:  then i misunderstand your question
[02:21] <josepena> hola
[02:21] <Krhis2> ^^
[02:21] <josepena> buenas tardes
[02:21] <troy_s> gretyl:  try me again maybe
[02:21] <nalioth> skippy81: for some reason, dapper decided to point my nameservers in resolv.conf to 10.0.*
[02:21] <josepena> alguien en espaol
[02:21] <troy_s> gretyl:  grey matter might work better this time.
[02:22] <Gretyl> troy_s: I'm having trouble starting up mac-on-linux
[02:22] <redguy> !tell Krhis2 about msg the bot
[02:22] <Krhis2> Thanks.
[02:22] <Madpilot> !es
[02:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:22] <troy_s> gretyl:  what is that?  you mean you are having trouble booting your machine running linux that happens to be motorola / ppc powerd?
[02:22] <Krhis2> But has anyone ever have ReiserFS go 'sour' on them?
[02:22] <dou213> !ro
[02:22] <ubotu> dou213: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:22] <Krhis2> Apperintly it's messey to recover?
[02:23] <skippy81> nalioth ive been searching the bugs about it - thres definately something fishy up with resolv.conf.  I think dapper holds on to the configuration despite the DHCP lease it recieved them from expiring
[02:23] <troy_s> gretyl:  last time a checked a 'mac' was nothing more than a motorola / ibm chip with a bunch of other garbage components.
[02:23] <Gretyl> troy_s: no, mac-on-linux is an environment where a PPC machine booted into Linux should be able to load Mac OS X inside a window
[02:23] <troy_s> gretyl:  ahhhhh....
[02:23] <skippy81> nalioth, for now you will just have to update the file yourself i gues
[02:23] <troy_s> gretyl:  probably not the _defacto_ forum for mac questions.
[02:23] <nalioth> skippy81: well, personally, i may just set my resolv.conf readonly
[02:23] <troy_s> gretyl:  linux yes.
[02:24] <wangy> o~~~~~~~
[02:24] <troy_s> gretyl:  but when you get back into mac, you are begging for pain.
[02:24] <Gretyl> well, it's the linux pkg that's failing me
[02:24] <Gretyl> not the mac part
[02:24] <josepena> hola
[02:24] <troy_s> gretyl:  um does linux boot?
[02:24] <Gretyl> yep
[02:24] <troy_s> gretyl:  then it is the mac part.
[02:24] <skippy81> nalioth, let me know if that works
[02:24] <nalioth> skippy81: most of my fixes are not for the faint-hearted <EG>
[02:24] <troy_s> gretyl:  but as i said, you might not get specific help here.
[02:24] <skippy81> i will recommend it to others if does
[02:24] <redguy> nalioth, skippy81 , also you can edit /etc/resolvconf.d/base and put the nameservers in there
[02:24] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  well, its been fun guys, but I'm outta here.
[02:24] <nalioth> redguy: ah, a much better suggestion, thank you
[02:25] <robochief> Will Ubuntu 6.06 work on a Celeron 500MHz with 128MB of RAM?
[02:25] <bobstro> theBeno:  ok, which is you? :)
[02:25] <troy_s> gretyl:  not too many free software users are interested in running macos on an opensource platform.  there are some people out there who want to do that, but most NOT here.
[02:25] <zexr0> anyone can help my with a usb device problem ?
[02:25] <Gretyl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacOnLinuxHowto is what I'm working from
[02:25] <Ron_o> updating to dapper and had some problems on the install CD.
[02:25] <Ron_o> this is the error message: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] /poo l/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-2 3-386_2.6.15.11-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[02:25] <Ron_o> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mis sing?
[02:25] <Ron_o> what to do. :-/
[02:26] <redguy> nalioth: not sure about the exact location though, but the filename is 'base' that's for sure
[02:26] <troy_s> ron_o:  did you check your media before you tried to install stuff?
[02:26] <nalioth> redguy: noted
[02:26] <troy_s> ron_o:  if you didnt' you are begging for pain.
[02:26] <Ron_o> well, not exactly..
[02:26] <Ron_o> I'm begging for pain.
[02:26] <skippy81> Ron_o:  you should download the ISO again and run an md5 check on it
[02:26] <BlueSwirl> kinky
[02:26] <bimberi> robochief: it will work, but be a bit slow, you could try xubuntu if it's annoyingly so
[02:26] <Ron_o> I did check it but thought something else was wrong, and not my CD.
[02:26] <troy_s> ron_o:  then it could be anything.  always validate your media before you think you have a problem :)
[02:26] <Ron_o> what to do now?
[02:26] <robochief> *Will Dapper Drake work on a Celeron 500MHz with 128MB of RAM?*
[02:26] <troy_s> ron_o:  media is cheap.  md5sum test everything.
[02:26] <nalioth> robochief: yes, it will
[02:27] <robochief> Oh ok, ty.
[02:27] <troy_s> robochief:  try it.
[02:27] <bimberi> robochief: yes
[02:27] <nalioth> robochief: you may wish to run xubuntu on it
[02:27] <skippy81> rabocheif yes, but XFCE is recommended IMO
[02:27] <troy_s> can ubotu search for keywords in bugs?
[02:27] <Ron_o> robochief, I'm running pII 350 and 195MB RAM.
[02:27] <Gretyl> troy_s: thank you, I've found what might be a better forum for my question
[02:27] <troy_s> via malone?
[02:27] <troy_s> gretyl:  good.
[02:27] <_tacoman_> i am installing the 686 smp kernal.  should i remove 386 ones?
[02:27] <robochief> Will try xubuntu than. :)
[02:27] <troy_s> gretyl:  there are very specific forums to help with that sort of thing.
[02:28] <cocox> hi is there a way to import my iptables.rules.file and make them take effect without rebooting???
[02:28] <spikeb> robochief, sweet
[02:28] <Ron_o> skippy, I have the ISO with the correct MD5sum check.
[02:28] <Ron_o> it's the burned CD.
[02:28] <crimsun> _tacoman_: only after you've booted into 686 and verified it works
[02:28] <obviouslytom>  ubotu, tell obviouslytom about hyperthreading
[02:28] <MooUK> [01:27:15]  <nalioth> robochief: you may wish to run xubuntu on it <-- Seconded; Xubuntu is lightning fast on a machine that's about half that.
[02:28] <troy_s> ron_o:  then check the BURNED cd md5 test.
[02:28] <Ron_o> btw, can I run the iso after mounting it?
[02:28] <crimsun> _tacoman_: there's no sense in rendering your system unbootable
[02:28] <_tacoman_> do i need to change init files or boot scripts?
[02:28] <crimsun> _tacoman_: no need, just reboot.
[02:28] <Ron_o> the problem is I'm out of CDs at the moment. :(
[02:28] <troy_s> ron_o:  understand?  Download test -- burn -- test burned files.
[02:29] <Ron_o> that was my last one.
[02:29] <skippy81> Ron_o you can mount a dapper ISO and use it as a source to upgrade from breezy to dapper
[02:29] <troy_s> ron_o:  you might be sool
[02:29] <Ron_o> skippy, yes.
[02:29] <troy_s> ron_o:  upgrade via the net an option?
[02:29] <Ron_o> that's what I have to do. That's what I should have done but misunderstood the process exactly.
[02:29] <_tacoman_> and my system already was unbootable before i disabled acpi
[02:29] <Ron_o> troy_s, no. Not enough space on HD.
[02:29] <robochief> To install (no use of LiveCD) of xubuntu, which version would you recommend? Alternate?
[02:29] <shodanjr_gr> guys
[02:29] <bright> hello! does anyone know how I can configure my firewall on ubuntu 5.10?
[02:30] <bimberi> ubotu tell bright about firewall
[02:30] <_jason> !firewall
[02:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[02:30] <Ron_o> skippy, what might be the command for that?
[02:30] <shodanjr_gr> some driver seems to be loading by default for my wireless card and not letting ndiswrapper take over, any way i can get around this????
[02:30] <troy_s> ron_o: sounds like you have more problems than simple md5summing :)
[02:30] <Ron_o> I believe it was sudo apt-get cd ...
[02:30] <bright> ok. thanks!!!
[02:30] <Ron_o> just point to the iso?
[02:30] <Ron_o> troy_s, I do. :)
[02:30] <skippy81> http://krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning Ron_o excellent dapper install guide here
[02:30] <cocox> hi is there a way to import my iptables.rules.file and make them take effect without rebooting???
[02:30] <Ron_o> the big thing is I have a complete backup image. :)
[02:31] <Ron_o> not too worried. hehe.
[02:31] <michael117> How can I force Ubuntu to emulate 5.1 sound to my 5.1 sound card and speaker setup?
[02:31] <Ron_o> thanks skippy81. I'll check it out.
[02:31] <troy_s> cocox:  everything in opensource land aside from jumping kernels can be done without rebooting
[02:31] <skippy81> i love the way linux can mount stuff so easily :)
[02:31] <nalioth> bright: <whisper> you really don't need a firewall, this isn't windows
[02:31] <_tacoman_> smp is useful if you have ht, right?
[02:31] <skippy81> i just wish it would 'mount' me :)
[02:31] <troytroy> hi my irssi client cant connect to any server
[02:31] <troy_s> nalioth:  you should always know what ports are open on your box at any given moment.
[02:31] <Ron_o> skippy81, the thing is I knew it could be mounted, but I thought I needed to reboot.
[02:31] <Ron_o> tisk tisk..
[02:31] <troy_s> nalioth:  the best firewall is your brain.
[02:31] <mitcheloc> are there plans to include xgl support in ubuntu?
[02:31] <Ron_o> so much for my knowledge.
[02:31] <robochief> *To install (no use of LiveCD) of xubuntu, which version would you recommend? Alternate?*
[02:31] <nalioth> troy_s: it's not the ports that are open, it's whats listening
[02:31] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  search for edgy
[02:32] <troy_s> mitch:  it is already in dapper with a few keystrokes.
[02:32] <Ron_o> robochief, no..the desktop.
[02:32] <seife> redguy: i cant access to the partition
[02:32] <redguy> !tell mitcheloc about xgl
[02:32] <troy_s> nalioth:  pretty hard to have an open port without something listening :)
[02:32] <Ron_o> btw, robochief the Live CD *is* the Desktop CD.
[02:32] <skippy81> Ron_o:  are you currently sitting in a working breezy installation at the moment?
[02:32] <mitcheloc> troy_s: you guys rock! my first time today installing ubuntu ;)
[02:32] <seife> sombody help me please
[02:32] <Ron_o> skippy81, yes.
[02:32] <redguy> seife: could you elaborate on that?
[02:32] <Burgundavia> mitcheloc: possibly for edgy
[02:32] <bimberi> robochief: the livecd will be handy when you're blown away by it and want to let others try it out :)
[02:32] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  everyone rocks.  its the community that drives freedom.
[02:32] <skippy81> i think you can just mount, add to sources and dist upgrade
[02:33] <robochief> oh ok :)
[02:33] <kbrooks_> mitcheloc: was it easy?
[02:33] <Ron_o> skippy, I'll give it a try and tell you how it goes.
[02:33] <cocox> troy_s, ohh i didnt know... so is there a way to make my rules take effect in iptables ????
[02:33] <Ron_o> let me get to the page. One more question, skippy81
[02:33] <mitcheloc> kbrooks_: i'm still working on it
[02:33] <seife> redguy: what u mean elaborate?
[02:33] <kbrooks_> Ron_o:
[02:33] <Ron_o> wait..
[02:33] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  when we start sucking like apple and microsoft, the whole thing starts sucking.
[02:33] <redguy> seife: give more detail
[02:33] <seife> i dont understand why i cant access to windows partition
[02:33] <seife> redguy: i just cant access
[02:34] <troy_s> cocox:  google iptables... more than 1000000000000000 howtos out there.
[02:34] <Ron_o> seife, you have to mount your partition.
[02:34] <mitcheloc> troy_s: =)
[02:34] <obviouslytom>  ubotu, tell obviouslytom about smp
[02:34] <[zero] > Im having a problem installing alien, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15101
[02:34] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  seriously -- everyone who donates time or writes things contributes.
[02:34] <Auckland_Pig> !search
[02:34] <troy_s> zero:  hold reading.
[02:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, search is System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename", or you can also do a package search via http://packages.ubuntu.com/<package>
[02:34] <redguy> seife: telling us what error message you are getting might help
[02:34] <kbrooks_> Ron_o:  mount -o loop [/path/to/...] /NAME.iso /path/to/directory
[02:34] <troy_s> BAD zero
[02:34] <troy_s> bad bad bad
[02:35] <troy_s> laf.
[02:35] <redguy> seife: did you follow the wiki link ubotu sent you ?
[02:35] <troy_s> zero:  sudo apt-get install alien
[02:35] <mitcheloc> troy_s: right, same way with most other distros/projects too, but they aren't as people friendly
[02:35] <BlueSwirl> mitcheloc, troy_s is right, submitting bug reports or helping out on this very channel is all helping out
[02:35] <cocox> troy_s, i have been looking on.... if you are not able to help please stay quiet in silence
[02:35] <[zero] > troy_s: haha I was doing what it told me on the wiki site :(
[02:35] <Ron_o> kbrooks_, yah, that's the question I waiting to get answered.
[02:35] <Ron_o> thanks!
[02:35] <grapegil> how easy is it to update ubuntu?
[02:35] <nalioth> [zero] : why do you need alien?
[02:35] <Ron_o> grapegil, very easy.
[02:35] <kbrooks_> grapegil: very easy
[02:35] <grapegil> alright thanks.
[02:35] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  which is why i choose to support ubuntu.  it is important that the entire world shuns corporate driven computing.
[02:35] <spartas> ron_o: you will need to update before performing the dist-upgrade
[02:35] <Auckland_Pig> how do i search for files in dapper? i'm unable to make nautilus find files
[02:35] <zexr0> grapegil,  about 3 click
[02:35] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  for better or for worse.
[02:35] <skippy81> i want to get into the bug reporting scene but im scared :)
[02:35] <[zero] > nalioth: duno really :/
[02:36] <troy_s> mitcheloc: in the shortterm -- meaning despite the little hurdles.
[02:36] <Ron_o> spartas, I have updated before, but I should do so again?
[02:36] <grapegil> skippy81, make a buggy bug report to begin with ;)
[02:36] <kbrooks_> skippy81: therer ARE trivial bugs you can duplicate
[02:36] <Ron_o> it says I should in update manager.
[02:36] <troy_s> skippy:  just dive into malone bro.
[02:36] <BlueSwirl> troy_s, just to play devils advocate, what about the support ubuntu gets from canonical?
[02:36] <skippy81> lol
[02:36] <Ron_o> grapegil, make a backup if you can before upgrading.
[02:36] <seife> Ron_o: i cant mount
[02:36] <seife> i click enable and nothing happens
[02:36] <seife> redguy: yes
[02:36] <Ron_o> there are still problems.
[02:36] <michael117> Does Ubuntu use ALSA or OSS by default?
[02:36] <spartas> ron_o: you will need to update after you change your sources file
[02:36] <skippy81> yeah i might have to get involved in malone reports
[02:36] <grapegil> back up is for wimps!
[02:36] <kbrooks_> skippy81: look in the nautilus package
[02:36] <redguy> seife: could you paste the output of mount to the pastebin?
[02:36] <troy_s> blueswirl:  mark puts his money where his mouth is.  he is stallman all the way.
[02:36] <nalioth> [zero] : you should use what is in the official ubuntu repos, for the health of your machine, (there is over 18,000 pkgs in the repos)
[02:36] <bright> ok. I started synaptic now. How can I install a package which is not available there... like this firestarter firewall tool?
[02:36] <seife> redguy: its seems to be mounted but i dont see any folder
[02:37] <seife> its just blank i dont see my folders
[02:37] <Ron_o> bright, in repositories..
[02:37] <troy_s> blueswirl:  i consider him the most important factor.  he put the money up and believes in free software (in the stallman sense of the word)
[02:37] <[zero] > nalioth: alright
[02:37] <Ron_o> I think it's in Synaptic Package Manager under preferences.
[02:37] <Ron_o> it's in the menu.
[02:37] <MCSE_Noob> anyone know why fwcutter cannot be found?????
[02:37] <Ron_o> sorry for being so vague.
[02:37] <troy_s> zero:  ALWAYS try to start with the repos, they will save you all sorts of hassels.
[02:37] <Auckland_Pig> how can i search for files?
[02:37] <Auckland_Pig> how can i search for files on dapper?
[02:37] <redguy> seife: to be more precise, open a terminal, type mount and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:37] <shodanjr_gr> guys
[02:37] <troy_s> auckland:  find / -name "*keyword*"
[02:37] <mitcheloc> my favorite part about ubuntu has to be the lack of the letter K or G prefixing everything ;)
[02:37] <bright> Ron_o: what should I do there?
[02:37] <skippy81> MCSE_Noob:  are you trying to install an airport?
[02:37] <shodanjr_gr> how can i access my blacklist file to prevent a driver from loading on startup???
[02:37] <bimberi> Auckland_Pig: Find -> Search for Files ?
[02:37] <BlueSwirl> troy_s, true enough, both mark and rms are total dudes, but would ubuntu be as big and as good as it is without corporate support? (again, just arguing for aruings sake ;-) )
[02:37] <Ron_o> in Synaptic?
[02:37] <troytroy> hi is limewire in the repos
[02:38] <MCSE_Noob> I am trying to use a broadcom wireless card
[02:38] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  that's KDE and gnome... its still there... will always be there.
[02:38] <bimberi> Auckland_Pig: sorry, that's Places -> Search for Files...
[02:38] <zexr0> anyone got an idea how to make usb device work on Ubuntu ?
[02:38] <bright> yes. in the repositories dialog
[02:38] <troy_s> mcse:  GOOD LUCK
[02:38] <MCSE_Noob> :(
[02:38] <spikeb> BlueSwirl, yes it would, because of one man's money :P
[02:38] <MCSE_Noob> this blows
[02:38] <mitcheloc> troy_s: i know, i'm just glad it's not the prefix
[02:38] <skippy81> BlueSwirl: linux and corporations are compatable - you can make money ethically
[02:38] <MCSE_Noob> no distro will use broadcom cards
[02:38] <troy_s> mcse:  It might as well be an apple specific pinout mouse.
[02:38] <nalioth> BlueSwirl: take troy_s into #ubuntu-offtopic and argue til you pass out
[02:38] <lurgee> zexr0: what kind of a usb device?
[02:38] <Ron_o> bright, check out the wiki.ubuntu under repositories and it will help you out.
[02:38] <gonz1> hello ubuntu people!
[02:38] <Ron_o> but it's easier in Synaptic.
[02:38] <troy_s> mcse:  It isn't the community's fault.
[02:38] <BlueSwirl> skippy81, good point :)
[02:38] <troy_s> mcse:  ITS BROADCOM.  send them hatemail.
[02:38] <nalioth> MCSE_Noob: the broadcom driver is in dapper
[02:38] <MCSE_Noob> what kinda card do you use, troy?
[02:38] <zexr0> joypad device, it used to work like an hour ago, and then now it dosen't work anymore
[02:39] <bright> ok, thanks!
[02:39] <Ron_o> I don't have Synaptic open and I can't or I'd tell you exactly.
[02:39] <MCSE_Noob> so how do I get it working nalioth/
[02:39] <Auckland_Pig> bimberi: i got Desktop search... and it says "search services" not started
[02:39] <Ron_o> just check in the menu when Syn* is open.
[02:39] <fh|killy> I'm stuck at "mounting root file system" on dapper CD - can't even get to the live Dapper.  Disconnected all hard drives and peripherals and get the same thing... any ideas?
[02:39] <nalioth> MCSE_Noob: alt-f2 > gksudo network-admin      see what you can see
[02:39] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: click on the revelant button
[02:39] <gonz1> i just u/g to dapper and love the release ... but mouse copy-paste doesn't look to work. ideas?
[02:39] <skippy81> BlueSwirl:  theres a really good quote about ideas by George Bernard Shaw which could have been about open source:- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.
[02:39] <nalioth> fh|killy: press f1 through f4 at the boot prompt and see if you can see any settings
[02:39] <zexr0> lurgee,  joypad device, it used to work like an hour ago, and then now it dosen't work anymore
[02:39] <MCSE_Noob> yeh it sees my card but when I activate it it just hangs there and then it finally says active but it won't connect to $hit
[02:39] <bimberi> Auckland_Pig: "Desktop search"?  I'm not familiar with that.
[02:40] <MCSE_Noob> the driver blows or whatever
[02:40] <fh|killy> nalioth - what should i be looking for exactly?
[02:40] <BlueSwirl> skippy81, familiar with that one. use it alot myself.
[02:40] <redguy> seife: I'm sure someone else will help you out with this, got to go right now. It's pretty late in here right now
[02:40] <troy_s> MCSE:  openbsd has a good listing of open specced cards.  http://kerneltrap.org/node/4118 for a good article.
[02:40] <MCSE_Noob> might just have to go get an orinoco
[02:40] <nalioth> fh|killy: your wireless hardware listed
[02:40] <skippy81> BlueSwirl: yeah its a good one :)
[02:40] <shodanjr_gr> cross your fingers people!!!
[02:40] <Auckland_Pig> bimberi: i cant see "search for files" in my menu..... only search and that desktop search comes up
[02:40] <lurgee> zexr0: what were you doing when it stopped working? did you just unplug it? have you tried rebooting?
[02:40] <fh|killy> ok
[02:40] <troy_s> mcse:  when you decide on a card, tell the vendor you chose it because of their open source / specifications.
[02:40] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: you dont need to search for files
[02:40] <seife> redguy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15102
[02:41] <zexr0> lurgee,  I just stop playing, well I'll try a reboot brb
[02:41] <BlueSwirl> skippy81, along with "capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of reasons, will some how work for the benefit of us all" - john maynard keynes
[02:41] <seife> someone help me i cant mount my windows partition rightly or i cant access to it, this is what i got on mount => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15102
[02:41] <MCSE_Noob> who carries orinoco cards that work for sure troy?
[02:41] <lurgee> when in doubt, reboot
[02:41] <bimberi> Auckland_Pig: this is gnome? Places menu?
[02:41] <AlwaysIcey> There's a utility in the symatic package manager about Broadcom modems.  But, I'm not sure if it will help you in your situation MCSE.  You'll want to enable the different repositories (universe and Multiverse) to see it.
[02:41] <Auckland_Pig> kbrooks_: i want to search for files.... but cant find where it is in dapper
[02:41] <skippy81> BlueSwirl:  yeah thats an excellent one - i dropped that in an essay at uni once :)
[02:41] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: where are these files? in your home directory?
[02:41] <troy_s> blueswirl:  good quotes.
[02:41] <Auckland_Pig> bimberi: yes gnome,
[02:41] <Auckland_Pig> yes
[02:42] <Peregrino> Can anyone help me with a live-expert ubuntu?
[02:42] <BlueSwirl> skippy81, nice :-) the best use of a quote in academia i know of is a friend of mine using HP Lovecraft in his physics dissertation
[02:42] <troy_s> blueswirl:  capitalism is fine as long as it doesn't start regulating things like literature, music, art, science, knoweldge, etc.
[02:42] <BlueSwirl> troy_s, cheeres
[02:42] <grasshopper> Can someone tell me aout screensavers?
[02:42] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: use beagle to search for them. start the search service
[02:42] <RandolphCarter> BlueSwirl: (spot the interest), but what did h quote?
[02:42] <aaron_> i need help installing my wireless network card
[02:42] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: in theBeno  GUI
[02:42] <AlwaysIcey> what do you want to know about screensavers?
[02:42] <spikeb> in other wrods, capitalism is fine as long as it's not touching anything important.
[02:42] <BlueSwirl> troy_s, but isn't that what it buys and sells?
[02:42] <grapegil> BlueSwirl, what'd he have to say ?
[02:42] <troy_s> aaron:  you aren't alone.
[02:42] <aaron_> lol
[02:42] <MCSE_Noob> LOL
[02:42] <skippy81> grasshopper, the good ones in linux use opengl - so you need an accelerated card to have them looking good
[02:42] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: in the GUI, i mean
[02:42] <Auckland_Pig> kbrooks_: whats Beno?
[02:42] <Auckland_Pig> ok
[02:42] <shodanjr_gr> YEESSSSSSSS
[02:42] <aaron_> can anyone help?
[02:43] <BlueSwirl> RandolphCarter, grapegil, can't remember exactly, it was the one about going mad if we investigate the universe too hard ;-)
[02:43] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: i accidentally tabcompleted
[02:43] <gonz1> i just u/g to dapper and love the release ... but mouse copy-paste doesn't look to work. ideas?
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> OH YESSSS
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> IM WIRELESS BABY
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> :P
[02:43] <grasshopper> skippy81: but there are so few good ones in Dapper
[02:43] <grapegil> hehehe.
[02:43] <aaron_> its a Dell Wireless 1350 WLAN PC card
[02:43] <MCSE_Noob> what card you using sho?
[02:43] <mnk> hello all. can someone tell me how to mount a vmware windows partition so i can see it under ubuntu?
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> Netgear WG511
[02:43] <grapegil> i like the one about the only people who drink sober being the insane :)
[02:43] <skippy81> grasshopper, its the matrix one for the win i still think, i saw a guy who had the matrix opengl screenie as his wallpaper with XGL lol
[02:43] <grapegil> also by lovecraft.
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> version 3, the one made in china
[02:43] <grapegil> i think he had a lot to say about the subject.
[02:43] <MCSE_Noob> how'd you get it working?
[02:43] <RandolphCarter> BlueSwirl: ahh, most humans would go mad if they could correlate all of their data?
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> ndiswrapper
[02:43] <troy_s> blueswirl:  well knowledge must be free, and more and more computers perform knowledge tasks -- like books.  it gets very very ugly when you have MS telling how to run the 'web' or other protocols.  Apple too, as they have conquered the damn music end for the now.
[02:43] <grapegil> *dance sober, not drink.
[02:43] <RandolphCarter> BlueSwirl: or something along those lines
[02:43] <laervian1> good evening
[02:44] <BlueSwirl> troy_s, definitely.
[02:44] <Peregrino> May someone tellme about live-expert on Ubuntu?
[02:44] <seife> somone help
[02:44] <BlueSwirl> RandolphCarter, yeah, that one :-)
[02:44] <troy_s> aaron:  you need to find the chipset to start
[02:44] <Peregrino> !restrictedformats
[02:44] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:44] <MCSE_Noob> haha "someone help."
[02:44] <grasshopper> skippy81: i had a couple in Breezy that are missing in Dapper and i'm really missing them. Wondered if one can install more?
[02:44] <troy_s> aaron:  lspci helps find that sort of stuff :)
[02:44] <searayman> i logged off then logged back into ubuntu and now my gdesklets wont start up? any ideas?
[02:44] <AlwaysIcey> mnk, if it's the host, you'll need to use samba.  If it's a separate partition on the same vm, you should just need to use mount /dev/hd* where the * is the letter of the partition (like hda1).
[02:44] <troy_s> aaron:  if it comes up with a vendor who likes secrets, you are hooped.
[02:44] <Tedd> searayman, don't use gdesklets
[02:44] <Tedd> :P
[02:44] <aaron_> troy: is that a channel?
[02:44] <troy_s> samba stinks, use ssh
[02:44] <laervian1> does anybody know how to copy openoffice_math formulas into the writer?
[02:44] <Caspian> searayman: put "gdesklets" in your startup sessions
[02:45] <searayman> Tedd:  i need the dock because i have my computer set up to look like a mac
[02:45] <gimmulf> Hmmm i dont get any syntax highlightning in vim after upgrading to dapper
[02:45] <troy_s> aaron:  open up a terminal and type lspci
[02:45] <grasshopper> skippy81: also in breezy i could tick as many as i wanted to and have them alter. In Dapper i see no option for this and one can only choose one at a time, am i right?
[02:45] <shodanjr_gr> guys
[02:45] <aaron_> lol, how do i open up a terminal
[02:45] <aaron_> im a neewb with the OS
[02:45] <searayman> Caspian:  i did and it wont even start up if i try it manualy
[02:45] <troy_s> aaron:  applications, accessories, terminal
[02:45] <Caspian> searayman: System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup
[02:45] <shodanjr_gr> can anyone suggest a good C++ and a good JAva IDE?
[02:45] <Caspian> oh...
[02:45] <troy_s> aaron:  you asked.  you know now.  no problem.
[02:45] <mnk> AlwaysIcey: i am running windows within my ubuntu [ie ubuntu is the host] 
[02:45] <poje> aaron_: f2 + gnome-terminal
[02:45] <searayman> casi know
[02:45] <troy_s> shodanjr:  vi/emacs ?
[02:45] <fh|killy> does anyone have link to the alternative installer?
[02:45] <searayman> Caspian: i know i tried that it dosent work
[02:45] <AlwaysIcey> Then you'll probably want to use either samba or ssh.
[02:45] <poje> shodanjr_gr: Eclipse is by far the best Java IDE
[02:46] <aaron_> thanks!
[02:46] <poje> I think it has a C++ plugin, not sure though
[02:46] <Caspian> What do you get when you run pgrep gdesklets?
[02:46] <AlwaysIcey> Yep, Eclipse does.  It has all sorts of plugins.
[02:46] <skippy81> grasshopper, dapper certainly has less options availiable, but i expect a replacement screensaver manager could be used
[02:46] <shodanjr_gr> poje can i get it through Synaptic?
[02:46] <gonz1> for dapper, ideas as to where he "lock screen" applet is? and mouse copy-paste isn't working for me, but worked on breezy fine. ideas?
[02:46] <skippy81> i will have a look through synaptic for you grasshopper
[02:46] <aaron_> troy: now wat do i do after i type that in?
[02:46] <seife> someone help me i cant mount my windows partition rightly or i cant access to it, this is what i got on mount => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15102
[02:46] <troy_s> gonz:  dapper is four days old.  might be growing pains.
[02:46] <poje> shodanjr_gr: I am not sure - try it with apt-get, otherwise get it off the web
[02:46] <troy_s> aaron: look for wireless card info.
[02:47] <Peregrino> Is there a way to mount a HD running a Live ver. of Ubunut???
[02:47] <grasshopper> skippy81: what's up with that?! how can the next higher release have less options and less screensavers then a previous relaese?
[02:47] <troy_s> aaron:  i am off... skippy might be able to help you.  he and others are quite knowledgable.
[02:47] <gonz1> thx troy_s. it worked really well for me re monitor resolution and video card support. breezey didn't fair as well.
[02:47] <poje> Peregrino: I think the live CD automounts the harddisk
[02:47] <lurgee> i know i'm asking a dangerous question but: how does one login as root?
[02:47] <troy_s> grasshopper:  streamlining.  keeping with the ubuntu goals.
[02:47] <Ron_o> here's the question. How do I add the iso cd repository so the upgrade will occur there. If and when I did the CD the command was 'sudo apt-cdrom add'
[02:47] <gonz1> most things in dapper look quite good. i'm impressed.
[02:47] <grasshopper> skippy81: i tuped screensaver in synaptic but nothing came back
[02:47] <aaron_> thanks troy
[02:47] <bimberi> lurgee: 'sudo -i' will get you a root login shell
[02:48] <aaron_> skippy: i found the wireless card troy was talkin about
[02:48] <lurgee> also, what is the difference between dapper and breeze
[02:48] <zexr0> lurgee, reboot dosen't make it
[02:48] <troy_s> !root
[02:48] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:48] <Peregrino> poje, no, it doesn't let you mount them :/
[02:48] <troy_s> don't use root
[02:48] <troy_s> period
[02:48] <zexr0> but it seems to be undetected
[02:48] <troy_s> damn dumb
[02:48] <Ron_o> lurgee, Dapper is more stable, or should be. It's an update from Breezy.
[02:48] <lurgee> i need to change the admin's password
[02:48] <troy_s> lurgee:  use sudo, avoid root.  if you want more info, read the openbsd mailing list archives :)
[02:48] <bimberi> Ron_o: iirc it should offer to upgrade when you insert the cd
[02:48] <poje> Peregrino: For serious? I suggest probing the wiki then (or getting a knoppix live cd - that's what I use for recovery work)
[02:48] <lurgee> i cant login though, that's the problem
[02:48] <grasshopper> troy_s: nah.nah.nah...sure i don't get an os for screensavers, but it is such a small thing no need to cut corners there or options. Wanna keep some customability
[02:48] <skippy81> grasshopper, how many do you have - i have at least 40 open gl screensavers accesable, but none with any 'advanced options'
[02:49] <Ron_o> bimberi, you missed the point. hehe.
[02:49] <laervian1> zexr0: you can activate the root user anyway, I did it
[02:49] <Ron_o> I have some very complex problems here.
[02:49] <troy_s> grasshopper:  you can.  but the default install is trying to be streamlined for ease of use.
[02:49] <shodanjr_gr> damn i really gota get my ATI drivers working....
[02:49] <Ron_o> and it won't work your way anway.
[02:49] <Caspian> lurgee: Reboot, when you get to grub, select "Failsafe"
[02:49] <shodanjr_gr> vesa is kinda slugish...
[02:49] <troy_s> grasshopper:  you still have the option to go 'big' after the fact.
[02:49] <poje> grasshopper: unfortunately Gnome is _still_ cutting options down in order for it to be "easier" on users
[02:49] <zexr0> laervian1,  it's not me that want to enable root user
[02:49] <nbx909> how do i know if i upgraded to dapper successfully?
[02:49] <troy_s> shodan:  yes.  it is standards based --  no accelleration.
[02:49] <bimberi> Ron_o: yes, sorry i haven't been following - i just went on that post by itself :)
[02:49] <poje> And yes, I heart Gnome and use it over KDE
[02:49] <grasshopper> skippy81: mostly crap all of them. the ones that were great in Breezy are gone, replaced with lots of crappy ones in Dapper without the options
[02:49] <searayman> what is the software channel?
[02:49] <laervian1> zexr0: uh sorry
[02:49] <Caspian> lurgee: That will take you directly to a root terminal
[02:49] <seife> someone help me i cant mount my windows partition rightly or i cant access to it, this is what i got on mount => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15102
[02:49] <Ron_o> no problem. bimberi it's tough in here.
[02:49] <zexr0> laervian1, I want to make a usb device that was working an hour ago to work again
[02:50] <skippy81> grasshopper, i think a lot of it is to do with the new gnome desktop
[02:50] <bob_> I I just wanted to pop in and thank everyone for the help they supplied earlier with installing Ubuntu over  Fedora. I'm now IRCing direct from my new install, Thanks!
[02:50] <searayman> what is the software channel?
[02:50] <skippy81> the new gnome is definately cut back in places
[02:50] <troy_s> bob_:  spread the faith.
[02:50] <spikeb> bob_, i didn't help, but you're more than welcome
[02:50] <poje> bob_: congrats :)
[02:50] <laervian1> zexr0: I am no expert sorry....i formatted my flashpen and it worked again after a similar problem though
[02:50] <searayman> dose anyone know what the software channel is?
[02:50] <skippy81> thankyou bob_ thats really nice of you to pop in and make us feel warm and happy :)
[02:50] <troy_s> searayman:  no one responded. so no.
[02:50] <Ron_o> searayman, for software?
[02:50] <troy_s> searayman:  try rephrasing.
[02:51] <laervian1> zexr0: btw, do you know how to copy oo_math formulas into the writer?
[02:51] <Peregrino> poje: Now I'm on Ubuntu, and was wondering if I could mount one of my HD. What about running ubuntu live-expert?
[02:51] <spikeb> yeah you can
[02:51] <zexr0> laervian1, no sorry
[02:51] <grasshopper> poje: it has made it harder now for me to get what i want. There was never anything hard about having options and having more choice of screensavers. Thats hardly streamlining
[02:51] <skippy81> Peregrino, what filesystem are the harddisks?
[02:51] <laervian1> Peregrino: yeah you can, check the guide
[02:51] <aaron_> skippy: i need help installing my wireless Dell network card. Troy told me to  do lspci and look for wireless card, so i found that. now wat do i do?
[02:51] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, start firefox, the homepage should have stuff about this being dapper 6.06 etc etc
[02:51] <searayman> troy_s:  i tried installing somethign i downloaded and it said there was an older version in the software channel and it recomends i install that one
[02:51] <gonz1> ubuntu totally rocks! cut over to it from suse like 1.5 yrs ago. best dist out there, imnsho.
[02:51] <bimberi> Peregrino: Here's an example: "sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1"  (hda1 might have to change)
[02:52] <Peregrino> skippt81: NTFS
[02:52] <grasshopper> I can think of other areas where ease of use and streamlining could add functionality and ease to newbies like myself
[02:52] <skippy81> aaron_:  first you need to know the chipset of the wireless card - for that its exact model number and/or revision is needed
[02:52] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, is there some command line command?
[02:52] <troy_s> grasshopper:  you can always get involved in dev with a little dedication
[02:52] <grasshopper> so, Guys, is there a way of adding more screensavers and/or adding options? or is that it?
[02:52] <searayman> any ideas?
[02:52] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, there is, but i can't remember it. gah
[02:52] <schloob> anyone know how i can change my window manager from metacity to ion3?
[02:52] <troy_s> grasshopper:  yes there is.  this probably isn't the best forum for it though.
[02:52] <skippy81> Peregrino, you should be able to get read access to it using gnomes built in discs utility in System - ADmin
[02:52] <schloob> (without losing any gnome features like printing)
[02:53] <Pjott> Hi all!
[02:53] <Pjott> again ;p
[02:53] <aaron_> skippy: its a Dell wireless 1350 WLAN PC Card Model: WL-611GD
[02:53] <Peregrino> bimberi: you have to create a folder in /media to mount an HD :|
[02:53] <searayman> anyone know what this means? "A later version is available in a software channel"
[02:53] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, try uname
[02:53] <grasshopper> troy-s: common...it was fine no need to have dumbed down the screensaver section or take away teh best screensavers. Sure i might have to email Mark about this
[02:53] <laervian1> hey, 3rd time...anyone here who can use openoffice math?
[02:53] <skippy81> Peregrino:  make a folder on your desktop, called NTFS and use the disk utiilty to mount the ntfs at that location
[02:53] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, not uname it's something else
[02:53] <bimberi> Peregrino: you need to create a mountpoint somewhere - you can choose somewhere else if you like
[02:53] <Pjott> Just wondered: Are there any MIDI Editing apps. for Ubuntu? Such as Cubase or Fruity Loops etc.? I know Mandriva had "RoseGarden".
[02:53] <AlienX> laervian1, i can use it but have no idea what i'm doing :)
[02:53] <rixth> Hahaha banned from offtopic. Usually the other way around. God damn power tripping op.
[02:53] <skippy81> aaron_:  ok im going to look into it for you brb
[02:54] <grasshopper> troy_s: what is the best forum for me to take this question?
[02:54] <laervian1> i need to copy a math formula into the writer
[02:54] <laervian1> no way
[02:54] <comet> anyone recommend a good Xgl/Compiz howto for the newly released 6.06 LTS? the ones on the forums worked for me in the beta version, but now I'm not getting the same results
[02:54] <aaron_> skippy: thanks!
[02:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell comet about xgl
[02:54] <ramza3> anybody recommend a solid laser printer that is ubuntu friendly (dapper)
[02:54] <Madpilot> rixth, grow up
[02:54] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, uname will atleast show what version of the kernel you have, and if it's the new version, then bingo :)
[02:54] <AlienX> ramza3, anything by hp will work
[02:54] <SillyRabbit> Nvidia or ATI for Ubuntu ?
[02:54] <Ron_o> ramza3, I can't exactly answer that but hp works well with linux.
[02:54] <Peregrino> bimberi: I think /edia is the best place then ^^, but i didn't kew I had to make a "mountpoint". I've been using linux for 2 days ;)
[02:54] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, true
[02:54] <Eleaf> rixth, ;p
[02:54] <kbrooks_> Madpilot: i started it
[02:54] <poje> grasshopper: basically Gnome is oversimplifying and irritating power users while KDE has every option under the sun and irritates normal users who don't need to customize every little detail of their config and have to wade through all these obscure settings to do stuff
[02:55] <bimberi> Peregrino: :)
[02:55] <icaro> a pakage for so subtitle .srt  ,,,the xine not runnig
[02:55] <poje> So...maybe XFCE or Enlightenment will step up, but who knows
[02:55] <kbrooks_> poje: don't flame
[02:55] <SillyRabbit> Nvidia or ATI for Ubuntu ?
[02:55] <ramza3> why do hp printers look like fisher price toys
[02:55] <spikeb> poje, xfce seems to be trying to
[02:55] <poje> kbrooks_: that was not a flame
[02:55] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, 6.06 has kernel 2.6.12-23, iirc
[02:55] <icaro> ????
[02:56] <Pjott> Sorry, don't mean to be rude. Did you miss my Question? :s
[02:56] <lurgee> my problem is that my admin username was somehow change; or for some reason the password that i've always used is no longer correct. so I can't actually log in
[02:56] <poje> spikeb: hopefully, I like several aspects of it
[02:56] <poje> Pjott: unfortunately I don't know about MIDI editing ;d
[02:56] <grasshopper> skippy81: i also have the default 40 or so. Most of them are diabolical in my opinion. The great ones always stand out and must have been recognised as such. Why they left them out, dunno? and the only options are either random, which means there is no control of what is chosen or one specifies only 1, hmmm....synaptics was no help here, huh?
[02:57] <poje> lurgee: I think you can boot into recovery mode and that gives you root
[02:57] <poje> (or so I've heard)
[02:57] <Pjott> poje: Hmmm :/ I'll Google... Best that way ;D
[02:57] <poje> Pjott: someone else in here might know, just hand around :)
[02:57] <bimberi> lurgee: choose "Recovery Mode" from the grub boot menu and use 'passwd lurgee" to change it
[02:57] <fh|killy> nalioth - how does this error sound: "cannot allocate resource region 3 of device 0000:05:00.0"
[02:57] <hugh__> Why is NetworkManager not picking up that I have network connections?
[02:57] <nalioth> fh|killy: you got me
[02:57] <bimberi> lurgee: (or whatever your username is) :)
[02:58] <hugh__> it just sits there saying 'no network connection'
[02:58] <fh|killy> nalioth - is there a text only installer I can get somewhere?
[02:58] <josys36> Guys
[02:58] <josys36> What is the best PPP dialer to use?
[02:58] <poje> Hahahaha EA is releasing their next Battlefield 2 booster pack on 6.6.06
[02:58] <nalioth> fh|killy: there is, go get the 'alternate' install image
[02:58] <fh|killy> josys i use ipppd with ISDN
[02:58] <giind> I cant shut ubuntu dapper drake down .... I can only hibernate.. what shall i do_
[02:58] <poje> Terrible amusing, considering EA is a servant of Satan
[02:58] <fh|killy> ta nalioth
[02:58] <grasshopper> poje: well i might have to go over to kde then. While i accept the distinction in principle, screensaver is a small thing and was not too complex as it was in breezy . Therefore to have simplified it even further, is strange. The time it took them to do that could have been spent elsewhere making real worhwile changes. Just my thoughts
[02:58] <poje> *terrible -> terribly
[02:58] <nalioth> giind: open a terminal and type "sudo shutdown -h now"
[02:59] <skippy81> !ndiswrapper
[02:59] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:59] <poje> grasshopper: nooooo! Not the dark side!
[02:59] <giind> yes but does that solve the proplem permanently
[02:59] <phuz> does ubuntu have any builtin clustering apps? or is that being worked on
[02:59] <seife> Can Someone help me mounting my windows partition
[02:59] <satan> EA brings in the lost souls regularly, and that keeps me happy
[02:59] <lurgee> thanks bimberi
[02:59] <kevin_> hey
[02:59] <bimberi> lurgee: yw :)
[02:59] <grasshopper> poje: dark side? what are you talking about?
[02:59] <poje> Hahahaahahah satan, for the win
[02:59] <aaron_> skippy81: is that wat i should get?
[02:59] <lurgee> is there a way to play partypoker using wine?
[02:59] <giind> theres no sence in shutting it down if the problem wont get fixed
[02:59] <ceu> is there a dvd version of ubuntu 6.06?
[02:59] <bimberi> ubotu tell seife about mountwindows
[02:59] <josys36> ok will try ipppd
[02:59] <kevin_> i want the desktop background images (wallpaper) to alternate every couple of minutes
[03:00] <distanceisdeath> Why cant i play m4a in XMMS?
[03:00] <poje> grasshopper: I have unfounded prejudices against KDE, don't ask
[03:00] <kevin_> anyone got a link for something like that
[03:00] <josys36> wine drives me nuts
[03:00] <skippy81> aaron_:  i think your going to have a really hard time here, your card is not a common one
[03:00] <josys36> try vmware
[03:00] <poje> distanceisdeath: you need the correct codecs
[03:00] <dxdemetriou> Is there a command to make a backup for entire system? I want to move my installed Ubuntu in smaller disk on other pc
[03:00] <poje> distanceisdeath: check out mplayer
[03:00] <distanceisdeath> how do i get those?
[03:00] <distanceisdeath> i have mplayer
[03:00] <skippy81> you will have to extract the *.inf drivers from the windows driver file and load them up with ndiswrapper aaron_
[03:00] <giind> how do i install banshee
[03:00] <distanceisdeath> is banshee a music player?
[03:00] <hugh__> Why is NetworkManager not picking up that I have network connections? It just sits there saying 'no network connection'. Yet I am connected and I have all my interfaces in the /etc/network/interfaces.
[03:01] <crimsun> giind: use Applications> Add ...
[03:01] <pHluid> Does anybody have any experience setting up accelerated graphics on an ATI 345M IGP or similiar?
[03:01] <Peregrino> bimberi: I've done what you said to me, but now i get an error telling me that I don't have permission to view the contents of the HD :S
[03:01] <giind> I know that.. but it wont show up
[03:01] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, have you investigated the dump command? that does something like what you are looking for, iirc.
[03:01] <giind> I really need it for my mp3 player
[03:01] <hugh__> when I say NEtworkManager I mean the applet
[03:01] <aaron_> skipp81: ok, i have the Dell CD, how do i do ndiswrapper?
[03:01] <poje> distanceisdeath: did you follow the instructions on the mplayer site for installing the codec pack?
[03:01] <satan> poje: haha :)
[03:01] <obviouslytom> In the Synaptic Package Manager in Ubuntu, Do I want to install the linux-686-smp and the linux-headers-2.6.15.23-686?
[03:01] <obviouslytom> In the Synaptic Package Manager in Ubuntu, Do I want to install the linux-686-smp and the linux-headers-2.6.15.23-686?
[03:01] <giind> creative zen sleek..
[03:01] <grasshopper> poje: dont take me wrong- i like gnome but it is small things like having a favourite screensaver in breezy not showing up in Dapper and then seeing that customization has been stripped to basically nil that annoys Common Mark Shuttleworth! youll be hearing from me
[03:01] <spikeb> enable universe to install banshee
[03:01] <distanceisdeath> i think so, i mean i can play the files on amarok and other things but not XMMS
[03:01] <grasshopper>  :o
[03:01] <cluehammer> obviouslytom probably the linux-headers one, that's why i'm doing anyway
[03:02] <sjh> with the ubuntu 6.06 release, does anyone know what the three different cd imageas are? There is a desktop and server image (both obvious) what is the alternate image?
[03:02] <mlalkaka> what's the ':' built-in command used for in bash?
[03:02] <poje> distanceisdeath: I don't know about XMMS, so perhaps check the settings - that's all I can offer, sorry
[03:02] <distanceisdeath> its okay
[03:02] <obviouslytom> its for the P4 thats in my laptop thats why i am asking
[03:02] <skippy81> aaron_:  you need the windows driver named "bcmwl5a.inf", you then follow the ndiswrapper guide I linked, it should work OK if your lucky
[03:02] <distanceisdeath> i just like using one player.
[03:02] <bimberi> Peregrino: hmmk, try 'mount -o uid=1000 ...'
[03:02] <seife> bimberi: i did that and i cant access to my partition..
[03:02] <grasshopper> Guys?! can one downoad or add screensavers in KDE?
[03:02] <Peregrino> bimberi: thats....?
[03:03] <poje> grasshopper: yes
[03:03] <pauliukas> Hello everybody
[03:03] <dxdemetriou> BlueSwirl: the tar is not work? like: tar  cpf backup.tar --directory /mnt/hda1 ?
[03:03] <hugh__> Why is NetworkManager Applet not picking up that I have network connections? It just sits there saying 'no network connection'. Yet I am connected and I have all my interfaces in the /etc/network/interfaces.
[03:03] <pauliukas> Can anyone give me a little bit of help over getting 3D acceleration on my Radeon IGP-320?
[03:03] <grasshopper> poje: if you see Mark before i do, you tell him, ok?
[03:03] <gonz1> aaaahhhh ....
[03:03] <aaron_> skippy81: thanks for your help
[03:03] <bimberi> Peregrino: In full "sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1"
[03:03] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, not an expert on that sort of thing myself, sorry :(
[03:03] <poje> grasshopper: however, if you are happy with Gnome I would spend the few minutes crawling the web/wiki to figure out doing it in Gnome and save the effort of installing KDE
[03:03] <gonz1> my copy-paste mouse is set to a different button ... under the scroll wheel.
[03:03] <gonz1> interesting.
[03:03] <poje> grasshopper: which one is Mark?
[03:04] <kevin_> noone got any ideas about the alternating desktop background
[03:04] <distanceisdeath> is banshee a music player?
[03:04] <dxdemetriou> BlueSwirl: thanks for help
[03:04] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, no problem
[03:04] <grasshopper> poje: Mr Shuttleworth
[03:04] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, sorry i wasn't more useful! ;-)
[03:04] <pHluid> Does anybody have any experience setting up accelerated graphics on an ATI 345M IGP or similiar?
[03:04] <bimberi> seife: which bit did you try?
[03:04] <pauliukas> pHluid: I was just asking the same question...
[03:04] <hugh__> distanceisdeath, yes. an itunes clone
[03:04] <Alethes> what more do I need to do so that firefox will see the JRE that I have installed via the package manager?
[03:04] <dxdemetriou> Someone knows if I can use the command like: tar  cpfz backup.tar --directory /mnt/hda1 from livecd to backup my whole system?
[03:04] <wastrel> it's raining
[03:05] <poje> pHluid: good luck, ATI drivers are notoriously bitchy
[03:05] <seife> bimberi: what u mean wich bit?
[03:05] <grasshopper> poje: are  you saying then that it is possible in gnome too? I thought you were sayuing gnome is for simpletons and is therefore stripped down and streamlined for simpicity?
[03:05] <distanceisdeath> is banshee worth it
[03:05] <distanceisdeath> ?
[03:05] <spikeb> worth what?
[03:05] <distanceisdeath> worth getting?
[03:05] <pHluid> poje: I've noticed. And the 345M seems to be the bitchiest of them all... but it IS apparently possible, somehow. :\
[03:05] <spikeb> distanceisdeath, probably
[03:05] <hugh__> distanceisdeath, I like rythembox but some like banshee
[03:05] <grasshopper> ubotu tell poje who mark shuttleworth is, hehe
[03:05] <westy> anyone else with a net511t?
[03:05] <westy> netgear
[03:05] <poje> grasshopper: I was saying that the most visible ways of configuring Gnome are stripped down
[03:05] <distanceisdeath> mkay
[03:05] <dxdemetriou> BlueSwirl: I will try the dump at least :)
[03:05] <sirius> hey does anyone else notice that in Ubuntu a wireless connection will periodically disconnect and reconnect?
[03:05] <bimberi> seife: diskmounter or the wikipage (in that mountwindows factoid)
[03:05] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, read the mna page first!
[03:06] <sirius> through network manager?
[03:06] <poje> You can still do pretty much whatever, but it could be down to hacks/obscure witchcraft to do it
[03:06] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, man page i mean
[03:06] <hugh__> distanceisdeath, rhythmbox*
[03:06] <sjh> I found out anyway http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ tells me what the alternate image is for
[03:06] <wastrel> sirius: that happens to me
[03:06] <poje> Gnome is not for simpletons, the maintainers are just on a binge of removing complex configuration options
[03:06] <siriusnova> wastrel - how do you fix it?
[03:06] <Crescendo> Upgrade to dapper broke the system, it appeared to not initialize the display beyond the loading screen, as pressing the power button appeared to shut the system down safely... would this have to do with have two graphic cards?
[03:06] <Pepinito> hi
[03:06] <grasshopper> poje: oh, so it is actually more difficult then kde, i see
[03:06] <wastrel> siriusnova:  if you find out, let me know
[03:06] <pHluid> pauliukas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1094437#post1094437 <-- similiar to your experience?
[03:06] <DarkTower> sirius: YEs!! i thought it was just me
[03:06] <siriusnova> its really really annoying to have my wifi connection drop in the middle of an install
[03:06] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, something similar happened to my system, i had to force it to use the old kernel to get it to work
[03:06] <poje> grasshopper: depends on the situation ;)
[03:06] <Pepinito> can i uninstalled grub from the live-cd?
[03:07] <gimmulf> Hmmm i dont get any syntax highlightning in vim after upgrading to dapper
[03:07] <poje> I actually quite like Gnome
[03:07] <pauliukas> pHluid: Not really. I'm on the 320. I believe 2D acceleration is working, but I wanted 3D
[03:07] <Pepinito> and install LILO?
[03:07] <wastrel> i like gnome pretty good.
[03:07] <grasshopper> poje: so things are easier to do in kde, hmmm... i see  :(
[03:07] <poje> gimmulf: check your .vimrc
[03:07] <siriusnova> DarkTower - i think its a bug, it may have to do with low signal strength, maybe tho because in Windows at the same location my connection is low but it doesn't drop
[03:07] <skippy81> grasshopper, you could try "gconf-edior" and fiddle with the screensaver stuff in there
[03:07] <DarkTower> Alot of people in here experience the disconnection with wireless. Do the dev team know why this happens?
[03:07] <grasshopper> poje: well, this situation!
[03:07] <pHluid> pauliukas: Right, but you've tried the fglrx and radeon drivers already?
[03:07] <siriusnova> DarkTower - i dont think the dev team cares :(
[03:07] <pauliukas> Radeon yes, fglrlx nope.
[03:07] <grasshopper> skippy: and fiddle? great...
[03:07] <Crescendo> BlueSwirl, so would it upgrade properly, or is it still breezy when using the old kernel?
[03:07] <BlueSwirl> right, that's Objects in Space watched, time for bed i think
[03:07] <DarkTower> siriusnova: the dev team usually cares bout bugs
[03:07] <gimmulf> poje:  hmm dont have any
[03:08] <hugh__> Why is NetworkManager not picking up that I have network connections? It just sits there saying 'no network connection'. Yet I am connected and I have all my interfaces in the /etc/network/interfaces.
[03:08] <pauliukas> I've read a few blog entries and forum threads about it.
[03:08] <skippy81> grasshopper:  /apps/gnome-screensaver has soem options, and im sure you could search the net for some screensavers to add to knome
[03:08] <BlueSwirl> i have dapper with a different kernel on mine
[03:08] <Peregrino> bimberi: that worked out! could you tellme what I've done, please?? I' learning T__T
[03:08] <Pepinito> can I uninstalled GRUB from the live-cd and install LILO?
[03:08] <pauliukas> It involves changing the x config, which I've done. But it still doesn't "accelerate"
[03:08] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, you just caught me before i left ;-)
[03:08] <poje> gimmulf: do a quick google for a vimrc tutorial :)
[03:08] <copyofjohan> does anyone knows a good howto for using xen 3 under dapper drake?
[03:08] <DarkTower> i have quite a high signla strength and it still cute out my wireless alot
[03:08] <Seouge> is it possible to update to dapper from breezy?
[03:08] <skippy81> hugh__: the network gui is useless, i just ignore it myslef
[03:08] <Madpilot> Seouge, yes
[03:09] <Crescendo> BlueSwirl, don't worry about it.
[03:09] <Seouge> Madpilot, how does one do it?
[03:09] <Crescendo> Enjoy the night.
[03:09] <poje> Seouge: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:09] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Seouge about upgrade
[03:09] <grasshopper> skippy81, where is apps?
[03:09] <siriusnova> hmm anyone else have wireless connection problems where your connection will just drop and then reconnect?
[03:09] <siriusnova> it could be a buggy Network Manager applet
[03:09] <Seouge> thank you Madpilot
[03:09] <grasshopper> skippy81: /apps where?
[03:09] <pHluid> pauliukas: The "radeon" driver seems to work for me, but still show DRI as disabled, Mesa as the GL renderer, etc. fglrx just errors out with a "no device found" after install. :\
[03:09] <skippy81> grasshopper:  "gconf-editor" has folders inside it
[03:09] <siriusnova> DarkTower - what kind of wifi card do you have?
[03:09] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, i type "old" at boot up screen, when it asks you what you want to boot (and you usually leave it blank and let it boot linux)
[03:09] <bimberi> Peregrino: sure :) - it mounts it so that that user has access to the partition (on the livecd the "ubuntu" user has uid 1000)
[03:09] <r0xoR> does anyone know what chipset to select for DMA when compiling a kernel for an iBook?
[03:09] <grasshopper> skippy81: which is where?
[03:10] <pauliukas> Well, pHluid, are you sure flrgx is compatible with our cards?
[03:10] <DarkTower> siriusnova: a standard intel in a laptop, well supported, but ive experienced it on other cards aswell
[03:10] <pvd2006> Does easyubuntu work well?
[03:10] <pauliukas> I heard that it's for 8500+
[03:10] <hugh__> skippy81, I am trying the use WPA with my wireless network and the WPAHowto in the wiki says to use the applet. ANd I keep have DHCP problems when I use the other configuartion metoed
[03:10] <hugh__> .
[03:10] <hugh__> method*
[03:10] <pauliukas> But IGP is based on the 7000 series
[03:10] <BlueSwirl> pvd2006, it didn't work for me, but i've heard good things in general
[03:10] <kbrooks_> pvd2006: yes
[03:10] <skippy81> grasshopper; open a terminal and type "gconf-editor"
[03:10] <Seouge> i'm getting this error message: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://koti.mbnet.fi breezy/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/koti.mbnet.fi_%7eots_ubuntu_breezy_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:10] <Pepinito> I want to replace GRUB with LILO, can someone help me?
[03:10] <Crescendo> BlueSwirl, is this the same thing as when using GRUB, it lists all the old Kernels?
[03:10] <siriusnova> DarkTower - i have an atheros based pc-card, i thought it was something to do with signal strength as it usually happened for me when i was far from the signal source, but i guess its a bug
[03:11] <pHluid> pauliukas: No, I'm not sure at all. But I know it IS possible to accelerate it - I see forum posts about it, but I can't find any explanation of HOW it was done
[03:11] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, i don't know, sorry :(
[03:11] <Peregrino> bimberi: thanks for teaching me ^^!! I really appreciate your kindness =D
[03:11] <avis> xgl is so neat !
[03:11] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, good luck with your problem, i gotta run.
[03:11] <BlueSwirl> bye all
[03:11] <Crescendo> BlueSwirl, thanks anyways... you've been a great help.  Get some sleep!
[03:11] <skippy81> yeah xgl is good
[03:11] <copyofjohan> how do I get a real Trash-Symbol onto my Desktop?
[03:11] <pauliukas> pHluid: Check. lemme get that link to that blog
[03:11] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, toodles
[03:11] <Seouge> anyone know how i can fix that?
[03:11] <giin1> I cant shutdown ubuntu.. in the meny I can only hibernate, log out, lock screen or switch user..
[03:11] <avis> hehe now i will unwindowsize me and use multiple desktops :)
[03:11] <Pepinito> how do i replace GRUB with LILO?
[03:11] <pauliukas> pHluid: Come into #ubuntu-ca less traffic in the channel
[03:12] <DarkTower> siriusnova: yeh it happens to me all the time, and my signal reads 97%, and theres no sources of interference here
[03:12] <wastrel> giin1:  sudo shutdown -h now doesn't work?
[03:12] <skippy81> Seouge:  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and take the offending line out
[03:12] <giin1> no it doesnt work
[03:12] <DarkTower> siriusnova: i have a hotswitch for my card, i toggle it and it reconnects. it just happened then
[03:12] <siriusnova> DarkTower - that sucks, with a show stopping wifi bug like that they shouldn't have released Dapper
[03:12] <DarkTower> siriusnova: i get it in breezy
[03:12] <bimberi> Peregrino: np whatsoever, glad to help.  Note that the "man" command gives access to documentation.  In this case 'man mount'
[03:12] <edvinasMD5> how can i watch .avi format movies?
[03:12] <siriusnova> DarkTower - i get it in dapper :(
[03:12] <giin1> it says this> Usage:    shutdown [-akrhHPfnc]  [-t secs]  time [warning message] 
[03:12] <giin1>                   -a:      use /etc/shutdown.allow
[03:12] <giin1>                   -k:      don't really shutdown, only warn.
[03:12] <giin1>                   -r:      reboot after shutdown.
[03:12] <giin1>                   -h:      halt after shutdown.
[03:12] <giin1>                   -P:      halt action is to turn off power.
[03:12] <bimberi> ubotu tell edvinasMD5 about restricted
[03:13] <giin1>                   -H:      halt action is to just halt.
[03:13] <giin1>                   -f:      do a 'fast' reboot (skip fsck).
[03:13] <giin1>                   -F:      Force fsck on reboot.
[03:13] <giin1>                   -n:      do not go through "init" but go down real fast.
[03:13] <giin1>                   -c:      cancel a running shutdown.
[03:13] <giin1>                   -t secs: delay between warning and kill signal.
[03:13] <skippy81> quit the spam and use pastebin pretty please
[03:13] <giin1>                   ** the "time" argument is mandatory! (try "now") **
[03:13] <MTecknology> giin1, watch the pasting
[03:13] <crimsun> giin1: that paste is a bit much; please use pastebin.
[03:13] <avis> pastebin.com only please
[03:13] <Peregrino> bimberi: thanks again ;)
[03:13] <avis> that is not allowed
[03:13] <poje> Yay for pasting man pages ;d
[03:13] <skippy81> lol
[03:13] <siriusnova> lol
[03:13] <tjs> anyone have ubuntu running successfully on parallels?
[03:13] <MTecknology> !tell giin1 about pastebin
[03:13] <siriusnova> wifi in ubuntu is buggy - maybe i should try the latest madwifi drivers from source?
[03:13] <giin1> tell me about pastebin
[03:13] <skippy81> just imagine if everyone pasted a man page, the whole freenode would go down :D
[03:14] <tjs> !tell tjs about parallels
[03:14] <Spleenfeeder> Has anyone got a remote control to work on a Leadtek Winfast 2000XP tv card in Dapper?
[03:14] <wastrel> giin1:  first, you should be careful about using commands that people give you on IRC
[03:14] <poje> I am going to play some Battlefield 2, so...yeah
[03:14] <giin1> well it is already down i think
[03:14] <poje> I'm sorta watching
[03:14] <DarkTower> !pastebin
[03:14] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[03:14] <wastrel> giin1:  second,  sudo shutdown -h now    is the command - i think you probably forgot to use the "now" at the end.
[03:14] <mnk> poor giin1
[03:14] <hugh__> How do I get WPA and dhcp to work together? I can't get them to co-exist
[03:14] <Madpilot> giin1, I muted you to stop that giant paste...
[03:14] <wastrel> giin1:  third:  welcome to the wonderful world of Usage:  messages!  enjoy :] 
[03:15] <oomph> anyone have much experience setting up winbind with ubunto?
[03:15] <oomph> or can refer me to a good faq
[03:15] <giin1> I wont paste anymore.. but the weird boy muted me..
[03:16] <roaet> hello, anyone have the files: lilo and lilo.live ?
[03:16] <Madpilot> giin1, you're un-muted now...
[03:16] <roaet> I mean: lilo and lilo.real
[03:16] <fh|killy> can anyone give me an idea why i cannot boot Live CD's?  My dapper installer won't boot, so I tried my old Warty live cd, which used to work, but that doesn't work anymore either
[03:16] <jighead> I'm trying to get a Lucent ISA modem working, I see PnP detects the card on boot, but it does not show up in lspci, should devices on the ISA bus show up when you do lspci?
[03:16] <giin1> btw it woudnt shutdown..
[03:16] <oomph> giin1: are you familiar with setting up winbind?
[03:17] <DarkTower> fh|killy: you probably need to set boot options in bios
[03:17] <giin1> no im not..
[03:17] <kimbaroth> Is there a way to increase the desktop resolution to 1280x1024??? I have an nvidia card (6600GT) with the latests drivers.
[03:17] <oomph> opk
[03:17] <grasshopper> skippy81: waste of time, lol
[03:17] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: edit your xorg.conf file
[03:17] <fh|killy> DarkTower - what kind of options specifically?  I used to be able to boot into Warty live cd on this PC i think
[03:17] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: can you tell me how??? please^^
[03:17] <DarkTower> fh|killy: set the boot order to cd first
[03:18] <fh|killy> ah
[03:18] <fh|killy> my boot order is fine
[03:18] <fh|killy> its just that its failing to actually get past the 'loading' stage
[03:18] <DarkTower> fh|killy: then tell exactly what happens when you put the cd in and boot
[03:18] <fh|killy> ok
[03:18] <fh|killy> in Dapper, the Ubuntu install menu comes up
[03:18] <fh|killy> i select install -> it hangs at 'mounting root file system'
[03:18] <fh|killy> in Warty Live CD, it gets right up to the splash screen and the progress bar loaded to 99%, and hangs there
[03:19] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf .in that file inspect your monitor settings and see whether you can add 1280x1024 in front of the available resolutions in the screen settings
[03:19] <NoUse> fh|killy how did you download the ISO?
[03:19] <skippy> fh|killy,  try "noapic nolapic acpi=off" etc
[03:19] <DarkTower> fh|killy: anything wrong with your hardware?
[03:19] <fh|killy> nouse, i got my friend to download it, because i'm on ISDN, i checked md5 and its good
[03:19] <fh|killy> DarkTower not that i know of, thats what i'm trying to figure out
[03:19] <NoUse> fh|killy way ahead of me :-)
[03:19] <fh|killy> skippy - ok i'll try that, thanks, but what do you mean by "etc"?
[03:19] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: ok, lemme try
[03:19] <kevin_> http://krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide#How_to_set_up_automatic_background_change_.28GNOME.29
[03:19] <kevin_> seems to be the answer to my question
[03:19] <legion> can someone tell me how to mount a windows partition real quick?  I can't remember (Xubuntu dapper)
[03:20] <kevin_> now all i have to do is learn phyton
[03:20] <fh|killy> mount -t vfat /dev/blah /mountdir
[03:20] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: gnomes screen res app will only allow you what your xorg.conf has allowed.
[03:20] <nbx909> hrm for some reason linux isn't reading this cd any reason why it would do that?
[03:20] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: so you have to edit xorg.conf
[03:20] <legion> aha!
[03:20] <skippy> fh|killy, only that you dont have to use them all together, just try adding the "noapic nolapic" first and see if it helps, if not try the acpi=off - there are lots of others as well, a few are listed on the CD
[03:20] <nbx909> all i get is a bunch of ???????
[03:20] <fh|killy> ok, thanks
[03:20] <Spleenfeeder> So, noone has a Leadtek Winfast card under dapper? ;/
[03:21] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: whats "Depth" inside the conf file?
[03:21] <Spleenfeeder> tv card that is
[03:21] <troy_s> spleenfeeder:  check mythtv for compat listings.
[03:21] <ZeZu> what is a good gui app for burning cds ?  i recall using one that was fairly nice but i dont remember the name
[03:21] <skippy> Spleenfeeder, i think those are known to work well actually - check the myth tv site out i think they list compatible hardware with linux
[03:21] <skippy> hehe troy_s got in there 1sr
[03:21] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: the bit depth, like 24 bit, 32 bit colour etc
[03:22] <skippy> :D
[03:22] <troy_s> skip:  laf.
[03:22] <troy_s> skip:  just dropped in too.
[03:22] <_darksoul> For the new dapper drake release, whats the better desktop on it, ubuntu or kubuntu
[03:22] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: just put 1280x1024 in front of the one listed as the default depth to begin with
[03:22] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: ohhhhh, the default depth is 24, can I increase it to 32???
[03:22] <troy_s> darksoul:  stop or you will start a religious war.
[03:22] <digikom> ZeZu: k3b is a good one
[03:22] <troy_s> darksoul:  let's just leave it at the belief that free software is about choice ;)
[03:22] <_darksoul> Well im just curious, im running kubuntu and whats diffrent with ubuntu
[03:23] <ZeZu> yes thats it thanks
[03:23] <skippy> _darksoul,  i see gnome as the lesser of two evils to be honest :)
[03:23] <AlienX> _darksoul, fluxbox
[03:23] <Spleenfeeder> I was hoping to not use mythtv, just something simpler like kdetv, or will looking at the mythtv site help me regardless
[03:23] <troy_s> zezu:  just use the default burner creator and go from there.
[03:23] <NoUse> !better
[03:23] <ubotu> Better for what? Better for whom? Why don't you try them all, then decide for yourself?
[03:23] <troy_s> spleen:  the latter.
[03:23] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: yep, and then change the 32 bit depth resolution
[03:23] <LinuxPoser> !tell LinuxPoser wine
[03:23] <skippy> lol i love the bot its so ... versitile :D
[03:23] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: oooooook
[03:23] <troy_s> laf ubotu knows better
[03:23] <NoUse> _darksoul I think Ubuntu is a bit more user friendly, but I find KDE more powerful but its all a matter of prefernce
[03:23] <troy_s> !sacrafice
[03:23] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, troy_s
[03:23] <LinuxPoser> !incest
[03:23] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LinuxPoser
[03:23] <Pepinito> if you boot from a live-cd, how can you access your linux install?
[03:23] <newb> hi guyz
[03:23] <gnomefreak> please dont play with the bot
[03:24] <_darksoul> ugh, whats that new xubuntu like
[03:24] <Spleenfeeder> Ok will inspect mythtv site :)
[03:24] <gnomefreak> _darksoul: xfce
[03:24] <troy_s> darksoul:  you can try everything -- just flip through window managers.
[03:24] <ZeZu> anyone have problems with installing nvidia drivers on dapper ?
[03:24] <newb> is ubntu a good linux?
[03:24] <Madpilot> Pepinito, you can mount your hard drive partitions on the live CD
[03:24] <_darksoul> gnomefreak: other then that.. just like before right
[03:24] <skippy> ok heres the question, which is fastest out of kde and gnome? ive always been told gnome is more efficient - but its bloat makes up for it
[03:24] <NoUse> newb yes
[03:24] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: I need to restart I assume, rite?
[03:24] <ZeZu> skippy, gnome by far
[03:24] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: ctrl-alt-esc
[03:24] <legion> skippy: both are bloated.  Go Xubuntu
[03:24] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: to restart xserver
[03:25] <gnomefreak> _tacoman_: dappers xfce is a little different than breezys
[03:25] <newb> how can i register ?
[03:25] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: ok, sec
[03:25] <Madpilot> skippy, Dapper's Gnome (2.14) is smoking fast, it's amazing
[03:25] <gnomefreak> shoot
[03:25] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell newb about register
[03:25] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: I hope you backed up your old xorg.conf
[03:25] <newb> i want to be able to send private msgs
[03:25] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: yep
[03:25] <Pepinito> Madpilot: yeah, i want to do it to install LILO
[03:25] <ZeZu> could be a biased opinion though, i hate kde with a passion
[03:25] <MTecknology> !register
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[03:25] <Madpilot> newb, see the PM you just got from ubotu
[03:25] <legion> AlienX: your hardcore bro
[03:25] <Pepinito> Madpilot: can you help me?
[03:25] <skippy> Madpilot, yeah i have to agree there, Ubuntu Dapper is very fast by default - i set up gentoo yesterday and it only boots 4 seconds quicker :)
[03:25] <Thumann> hi, any one got this file? libvc1-1.0.tar.gz (it's for VLC (mediaplayer))
[03:25] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: so if for any reason it all stuffs up, just copythe old one back  and try again :)
[03:25] <AlienX> legion, nah
[03:26] <skippy> and that was gentoo with no fancy modules etc
[03:26] <Thumann> trying to enable VC-1 support en videolan
[03:26] <roaet> Can someone please link me to the files: lilo and lilo.real
[03:26] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: Ok, But, Nuffin Happens
[03:26] <Madpilot> Pepinito, ATA or SATA harddrive?
[03:26] <Pepinito> Madpilot: SCSI
[03:26] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: Nothing happens when you do ctrl-alt-esc?
[03:26] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: Ill change the res from system>preferences>screen res??? aite?
[03:26] <Owner> hey
[03:27] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: yep, it makes a refresh, but nothing more
[03:27] <skippy> Thumann, have you tried installing VLCs extra plugin packs with synaptic?
[03:27] <Thumann> skippy: aye
[03:27] <Thumann> skippy:  it's not in it
[03:27] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: log out and then do it, also make sure you changed the resolution line for the bot depth that you defaulted
[03:27] <Madpilot> Pepinito, OK. Do you know what the designation is of the partition you want to mount? (sda1, sda2, etc?)
[03:27] <Thumann> skippy: this is for WMV9 you know.. the hack DVD JON made..
[03:27] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: ok, brb
[03:27] <Spleenfeeder> *bit
[03:27] <Pepinito> Madpilot: sda1
[03:28] <Madpilot> Pepinito, then type "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /home/ubuntu/"
[03:28] <Owner> my friend has a really old gateway computer...i mean really old...like 600MHZ old, and he wants to install ubuntu on it. I went to the BIOS and i changed to boot prioroty to make it boot from the CD drive but it just doesn't do that
[03:28] <Owner> Any idea why?
[03:28] <legion> You know, Xubuntu install never asked me for a root pw.  How do I mnt a windows part if I can't login as root?
[03:28] <mlalkaka> 2 keys on my keyboard are reporting the same scancode. however, the keys are meant to do different things. is it possible to change the scancode of one of the keys?
[03:28] <Madpilot> that should get all of sda1 accessible from ~
[03:28] <spikeb> !tell legion about root
[03:28] <giind> what do you like most.. Kubuntu or Ubuntu
[03:28] <skippy> im having a little look around for you now Thumann :)
[03:28] <slavik> ubuntu
[03:29] <robzilla1983> i just installed ubuntu. i've got a second hard drive. when i try to view it through Places -> Computer I get an error message saying "Unable to mount selected volume." "error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable" "error: could not execute pmount"
[03:29] <robzilla1983> any idea on how to mount that?
[03:29] <Madpilot> legion, use sudo
[03:29] <Owner> when it loads into windows and i autoplay the cd drive, it works fine, so the problem isn't from the cd-rom drive
[03:29] <giind> I think Gnome is more simple than kde
[03:29] <troy_s> owner:  your boot priority isn't set correctly in bios.
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> giind: That's a converstion for -offtopic
[03:29] <troy_s> owner:  2nd check it... cd/dvd should be first in boot order.
[03:29] <slavik> giind: as gnome grows keeping it simple will be a problem
[03:29] <linxeh> how do I burn the Dapper PPC iso from Dapper itself ?
[03:29] <mlalkaka> robzilla1983: are you running dapper?
[03:30] <Owner> troy_s, i changed the order, it's the cd drive, then the floppy, then the network, and finally the hard drive
[03:30] <Peregrino|Away> Is there a way to write in an NTFS HD?
[03:30] <troy_s> linxeh:  complicated!  right click burn.
[03:30] <slavik> #ubuntu+1
[03:30] <Pepinito> Madpilot, i did
[03:30] <Madpilot> Peregrino|Away, not safely
[03:30] <linxeh> troy_s: sure, except the ISO wont fit on a CD
[03:30] <troy_s> linxeh:  :)
[03:30] <regeya> agree on gnome vs. kde being offtopic
[03:30] <gnomefreak> slavik: #ubuntu+1 is closed
[03:30] <slavik> why?
[03:30] <Madpilot> Pepinito, did that work?
[03:30] <troy_s> linxeh:  try a dvd then
[03:30] <robzilla1983> what is dapper?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> there is no +1
[03:30] <Pepinito> Madpilot, yes
[03:30] <regeya> whoa...ubuntu+1 is  open already?
[03:30] <Madpilot> Pepinito, cool
[03:30] <gnomefreak> dapper was released
[03:30] <regeya> oh heh
[03:30] <linxeh> troy_s: if I had a dvd writer I would
[03:30] <Peregrino> Madpilot: What do you mean?
[03:30] <robzilla1983> (i'm new to linux so please bear with)
[03:30] <michael117> robzilla1983: the newest release of ubuntu
[03:30] <regeya> I was just thinking...dapper is the current release now!
[03:30] <regeya> lol
[03:31] <slavik> gnomefreak: and edgy eft?
[03:31] <chales> are you able to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 without having to burn another cd with the new version?
[03:31] <slavik> #join #dapper+1
[03:31] <gnomefreak> slavik: not out yet
[03:31] <Madpilot> Peregrino, there are ways to write to NTFS, apparently, but sometimes they eat your data...
[03:31] <bullrage> Peregrino, captive-ntfs
[03:31] <Spleenfeeder> Fair dinkum it's not straight forward setting up this remote is it?
[03:31] <regeya> what the devil is an eft
[03:31] <Pepinito> Madpilot, what's next?
[03:31] <regeya> mah
[03:31] <Madpilot> regeya, a young salamander
[03:31] <slavik> regeya: a young newt :)
[03:31] <regeya> meh even
[03:31] <grapegil> fair dinkum thinkum :)
[03:31] <NoUse> !eft
[03:31] <ubotu> it has been said that eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt, or try !edgy
[03:31] <cluehammer> i'm a grumpy groundhog
[03:31] <grapegil> i should read that book again sometime.
[03:31] <rockz> i try compile a programa that include Xlib.h ... how i install this lib ?
[03:31] <giind> this is a bit to crowded dont you think)
[03:31] <slavik> gnomefreak: what if edgy eft had the devicescape kernel? what ya think?
[03:31] <bimberi> linxeh: you're using a 700MB CD?
[03:32] <lastnode> im a zany zebra
[03:32] <Peregrino> Madpilot: Eat your data? O_o
[03:32] <Madpilot> Pepinito, you should have all the stuff from sda1 mounted in /home/ubuntu now on your LiveCD session
[03:32] <robzilla1983>  on the main ubuntu website i click on "download" under desktop. and it's the 6.06 version that i'm running
[03:32] <gnomefreak> slavik: that is for #ubuntu-offtopic not inhere
[03:32] <Madpilot> need food, will be back later
[03:32] <michael117> robzilla1983: Ubuntu likes to release new versions of the distribution every 6 months to keep up to date and this one is version 6.06 after the year and the month
[03:32] <robzilla1983> i dont' know if that's dapper or not
[03:32] <Pepinito> Madpilot, there s a mistake
[03:32] <giind> you dont have to tell us madpilot
[03:32] <rockz> i try compile a program that include Xlib.h ... how i install this lib ?
[03:32] <skippy> Thumann, its almost impossible to find that package anywhere, all the links to it have gone dead :(
[03:32] <Pepinito> Madpilot, it mounted another disk
[03:32] <Pepinito> Madpilot,  i have four disks
[03:33] <troy_s> linxeh:  then remove files from the iso
[03:33] <basbryan> !botsnack
[03:33] <ubotu> thanks basbryan :)
[03:33] <Madpilot> Pepinito, you sure it was sda1 you wanted to mount?
[03:33] <troy_s> linxeh:  your options are pretty limited :)
[03:33] <lukaswayne9> I'm having troubling compiling the application gaim-rhythmbox on ubuntu.  It complains that I don't have gtk-dev installed, but I do.   What might be the problem?
[03:33] <mshade> ubotu, xgl
[03:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[03:33] <Owner> troy_s, any idea what might cause it?
[03:33] <robzilla1983> so do you know if there's anything I can do to try and mount that hard drive?
[03:33] <troy_s> lukas:  you need -dev and if you have it, you might not have the correct version or you might need to tell the make where it is at.
[03:34] <robzilla1983> there's also half of my main drive that i can't get on, same error message, but i'm not too concerned about that. all my stuff is backed up on the 2nd drive though
[03:34] <troy_s> owner:  upgrade the bios?
[03:34] <Owner> troy_s, how would i do that?
[03:34] <chales> So, r u able to upgrade from an old version of ubuntu without having to burn a new cd?
[03:34] <troy_s> owner:  you are 100% certain that the boot is set to cd for first?
[03:34] <troy_s> owner:  then reboot from scratch with the disk in before post
[03:34] <skippy> robzilla1983,  what format is the parition you want to access?
[03:34] <bimberi> chales: yes
[03:34] <Thumann> hey.. can anyone check if they have this file; libvc1-1.0.tar.gz ?
[03:34] <chales> cool
[03:34] <bimberi> ubotu tell chales about upgrade
[03:34] <Ron_o> hey guys, skippy and all.
[03:34] <crimsun> Thumann: no, no one would by default
[03:34] <troy_s> owner:  if that fails, you might have a firmware bios issue... you will need to locate the make / model and find the motherboard, then track down the bios firmware
[03:34] <skippy> hello Ron_o
[03:34] <Ron_o> I got my iso mounted and I'm updating from it.
[03:35] <troy_s> yay Ron_o
[03:35] <Ron_o> I mounted it in /media/cdrom.
[03:35] <robzilla1983> i would guess ntfs. i haven't checked the format of it since i bought it two and a half years ago, but as a rule i tend to use ntfs so that's mostly likely it
[03:35] <troy_s> ron_o: congrats... hopefully that will help you out.
[03:35] <Ron_o> the only problem there was is I had to keep remounting it.
[03:35] <Ron_o> we'll see.
[03:35] <Ron_o> if it doesn't I know how to do it now.
[03:35] <Owner> troy_s, can i load the cd from ms-dos?
[03:35] <Thumann> crimsun: it's for VLC WMV9 support.. link on mainpage is down though.. and i can see it mentioned a few times in the ubuntu forums.. so it could be somebody had it..
[03:35] <Ron_o> and I'm going to have to get some books on Linux.
[03:35] <jime> owner: i have had to replace the cdrom on the older gateways... the cdrom will work fine except it wont read a cd from boot
[03:35] <skippy> well you can mount it easily, robzilla1983 - try just doing it with the graphical tool first
[03:35] <Ron_o> I really am lacking fundamentals.
[03:35] <BlueEagle> !xgl
[03:35] <ubotu> xgl is probably "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[03:35] <Ron_o> thanks for the help!
[03:35] <troy_s> ron_o:  how linux works is a great book if you want one to hold onto... and everything from oreilly.
[03:36] <Flory_> Sorry if anyone responded to my question I was disconnected and I didn't see the response
[03:36] <blanky> what's the ubuntu development channel
[03:36] <blanky> #ubuntu-dev?
[03:36] <eduardo> compartilhamento de pasta no funciona
[03:36] <troy_s> ron_o: no starch press -- how linux works
[03:36] <Ron_o> I'll look, troy_s .I know about Oreilly.
[03:36] <crimsun> Thumann: you can download it from dvdjon's Web site.
[03:36] <robzilla1983> what's the graphical tool ?
[03:36] <Ron_o> thanks.
[03:36] <blanky> Guys, where's the ubuntu development channel
[03:36] <eduardo> alguem fala portugues?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> !pt
[03:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:36] <Seouge> problem: Couldn't stat source package list http://koti.mbnet.fi breezy/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/koti.mbnet.fi_%7eots_ubuntu_breezy_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:36] <Thumann> crimsun: like i said.. link is down
[03:36] <skippy> robzilla1983,  make a new folder on your desktop called "ntfs" and use the discs tool under "system", find the partition and mount it under the folder you made - should give you read only access to it
[03:36] <Seouge> i'm getting that message when i try to apt-get something, what do i do?
[03:37] <delire> i'm currently in Debian assisting a friend of mine whose just upgraded to Dapper but is now offline. while she can log-in she is dumped straight back to the login screen. any ideas there? ~/.xsession-errors says Nautilus can't connect to the display, so we've been deleting ~/.ICEAuthority each time to get in..
[03:37] <eduardo>  que l ninguem responde
[03:37] <NoUse> Seouge run 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:37] <gnomefreak> Seouge: open the /etc/apt/sources.list and add a 3 to the fronnt of that repo
[03:37] <Ron_o> I was talking to others in offtopic but they thought I had to boot to upgrade.
[03:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eduardo -about pt
[03:37] <blanky> gnomefreak, he said no one listens/responds I think
[03:37] <Ron_o> it's a bit confusing to tell you the truth.
[03:37] <ic56> robzilla1983: there is a standard script to do all this.  It so happens I recently updated it.  Wanna be my guiney pig?
[03:37] <troy_s> eduardo:  google translate!
[03:37] <bimberi> blanky: #ubuntu-devel
[03:37] <blanky> thanks bimberi
[03:38] <bimberi> blanky: np
[03:38] <Thumann> crimsun: http://nanocrew.net/sw/ is deleted aparantly
[03:38] <troy_s> ron_o:  it's just because you are a bit new to the whole open source way... don't worry... it will grow on you and you will wonder why the hell you started off in the other zone.
[03:38] <Owner> jime, is it easy to install a Desktop's external cd-rom drive into the laptop?
[03:38] <crimsun> Thumann: google for an archive
[03:38] <eduardo> thanks I go to ubuntu-pt
[03:38] <troy_s> ron_o:  a lot of the commercial operating system bits don't make much sense, but because you grew into them, you take them as 'standard'.
[03:38] <eduardo> bye
[03:38] <Ron_o> it's all fundamentals that's all.
[03:39] <Ron_o> exactly!
[03:39] <robzilla1983> skippy: what happens if i don't have enough room to mount it? my second drive is about 76 gigs, and i have less then 40 gigs free on my primary disc
[03:39] <Ron_o> I've had way more problems on my Win Machine.
[03:39] <troy_s> ron_o:  which is why "how linux works" is awsome -- it tells you exactly how a linux system works -- without getting distro specific.
[03:39] <Thumann> crimsun:  -_- and you didn't think i did that before asking here?
[03:39] <troy_s> ron_o:  i can't recommend it enough.
[03:39] <Ron_o> I would spend hours killing adware and the like.
[03:39] <ic56> robzilla1983: mounting doesn't occupy any space.
[03:39] <troy_s> ron_o:  make no mistake, malicious computer attacks don't stop with linux.
[03:39] <skippy> robzilla1983,  mounting doesnt require much space :) its not like your copying the contents - just making linux able to "see" them
[03:39] <crimsun> Thumann: the chances of you finding an archive are pretty slim in here...
[03:39] <troy_s> ron_o:  security is security, it is here to stay as much as crime is in the outside world.
[03:40] <skippy> Ron_o, yeah in many ways a linux box is a far jucier target - its a credit to linux that half of the www stays up :)
[03:40] <robzilla1983> skippy: do you just change the access path in the partitions tab?
[03:40] <Ron_o> I know that.
[03:40] <Thumann> crimsun:   you've been a great addition to my search
[03:40] <skippy> yeah robzilla1983 , that access path is the mount point
[03:40] <Ron_o> I know security isn't absolute.
[03:40] <B0FH> ok i installed frostwire why will it not run?
[03:40] <troy_s> ron_o:  little known fact:  there are more linux exploits out there than windows.
[03:41] <seife> i need heko
[03:41] <troy_s> ron_o:  we all need to learn a step or two from openbsd...
[03:41] <seife> help
[03:41] <gnomefreak> B0FH: do you have java installed and working?
[03:41] <Flory_> How do I rename my xorg.conf_backup to xorg.conf in the terminal?
[03:41] <bullrage> Is there a command to give my user constant root access without su - or sudo?
[03:41] <Seouge> gnomefreak, what am i supposed to put a 3 in front of
[03:41] <skippy> Ron_o,  start with a strong admin password, and dont enable ssh until your password contains multiple non-dictionary words and numbers
[03:41] <troy_s> flory:  mv
[03:41] <B0FH> gnomefreak: um....yes i think so
[03:41] <gnomefreak> Seouge: not a 3 a #
[03:41] <seife> how do i reproduce formats like .asx or .ram to see tv on the internet, totem tells me that i need the decoder, i already installed the w32 codecs and nothing happened
[03:41] <Spleenfeeder> Flory sudo mv xorg.conf_backup xorg.conf
[03:41] <skippy> that will stop 80% of hackers
[03:41] <gnomefreak> B0FH: what does java -version output?
[03:41] <Flory_> Thanks :)
[03:42] <gnomefreak> B0FH: dont paste it just give me an idea
[03:42] <digikom> bullrage:  sudo -s for root shell
[03:42] <skippy> it really makes me laugh when i hear about someones "apple32" account getting hacked
[03:42] <Ron_o> troy_s, you might be right but not for one disto, re exploits.
[03:42] <delire> troy_s: that is hardly true.
[03:42] <B0FH> gnomefreak: 1.4.2
[03:42] <gnomefreak> B0FH: is it gjc?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> or gcj?
[03:42] <delire> troy_s: Linux is open about all it's known exploits. proprietary operating systems certainly aren't.
[03:42] <gnomefreak> something like that B0FH ?
[03:42] <Ron_o> delire, there are for all the linux distos combined.
[03:43] <bullrage> digikom, I'm trying to move files from one partition to another but can't do this without using sudo
[03:43] <delire> Ron_o: yes of course, including non-critical local exploits.
[03:43] <Ron_o> sure.
[03:43] <B0FH> gnomefreak: gij?
[03:43] <troy_s> delire:  just talking quantities... linux is a heavy target because of its place in webservers... but alas, offtopic.
[03:43] <linxeh> bullrage: change the permissions on the target directory
[03:43] <Ron_o> that's what some study said.
[03:43] <Flory_> How do I restart linux in the terminal?
[03:43] <delire> Flory_: sudo reboot -n
[03:43] <linxeh> Flory_, : sudo reboot
[03:43] <Ron_o> but they were using a linux distros as one.
[03:43] <Ron_o> all*
[03:43] <skippy> im a bit of a secrutity noob - can mysql, php, apache etc be run from a chrooted environment? and would doing that prevent someone from being able to take your entire box offline?
[03:44] <gnomefreak> B0FH: paste the output of java -version to pastebin please
[03:44] <B0FH> gnomefreak:  ok
[03:44] <linxeh> skippy: yes, and no
[03:44] <robzilla1983> skippy: i can't see my desktop when i click that change button for access path
[03:44] <xxyyzz> How would I use the terminal to look for a hidden file called '.ircrc'?
[03:44] <kimbaroth> Hi there again, i messed up my xorg.cong, how can I re edit it from the live CD
[03:44] <bderrly> ls -a
[03:44] <linxeh> xxyyzz: locate .ircrc
[03:44] <delire> Ron_o: yes, i remember the study, and they were including proof-of-concept local exploits.
[03:44] <linxeh> or ls -a :)
[03:44] <B0FH> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/758853
[03:44] <gnomefreak> ty brb
[03:44] <bderrly> kimbaroth, vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:44] <bullrage> linxeh, when right clicking the folder i want to copy to, and putting a tick in the read/write/execute boxes, the tick disappears straight away
[03:44] <Ron_o> MS's influence goes deep.
[03:45] <skippy> robzilla1983,  i dont understand "I cant see my desktop" ?
[03:45] <Ron_o> OS will win because it's real freedom.
[03:45] <Ron_o> and ideas get mixed.
[03:45] <Ron_o> Closed Source is like the Great Wall of China.
[03:45] <linxeh> bullrage: what filesystem is the target ?
[03:45] <xxyyzz> I'll try that, thanks
[03:45] <skippy> oh robzilla i see what you mean, you need to browse to /home/yourname/desktop to find it
[03:45] <bullrage> linxeh, ntfs, using captive-ntfs to write
[03:45] <gnomefreak> B0FH: install java please
[03:45] <linxeh> bullrage: and do you have permission to change it? you might want to try from the command line using sudo chmod
[03:45] <linxeh> urgh
[03:45] <linxeh> :o
[03:45] <gnomefreak> B0FH: are you on dapper?
[03:45] <B0FH> gnomefreak:  yes
[03:45] <linxeh> why do it this way? why not get ext2 support into windows? it is more reliable
[03:46] <ic56> robzilla1983: to what did you set the mountpoint for your NTFS drive?  Hopefully not the location of your desktop?
[03:46] <xxyyzz> Okay, "locate .ircrc" did nothing, no error or anything, just went to the next line...
[03:46] <deshantm_> does anybody how to setup ekiga?
[03:46] <grapegil> hmm. last time i installed ubuntu, it came with no compilers.
[03:46] <bderrly> xxyyzz, ls -a
[03:46] <kimbaroth> anyone???
[03:46] <deshantm_> !sip
[03:46] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, deshantm_
[03:46] <xxyyzz> And "cd /" "ls -a *ircrc*" did "no such file or directory"
[03:46] <grapegil> that pissed me off enough to immediately uninstall it :-?
[03:46] <skippy> linxeh, yeah but ext2 isnt used much linxeh, and ext3 isnt readable in windows i dont htink
[03:46] <robzilla1983> skippy: i put a folder on my desktop called ntfs. i don't know what you meant about setting the mountpoint
[03:46] <gnomefreak> B0FH: run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:46] <deshantm_> !ekiga
[03:46] <ubotu> somebody said ekiga was full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.
[03:46] <bullrage> linxeh, because I don't plan on rebooting for a while, and the ntfs drive is a backup drive with a lot of data on it so I don't want to format it, just write data
[03:46] <bderrly> kimbaroth, i answered you above
[03:46] <varsendaggr> ahhh i can't  uninstall foxytunes     from firefox   or rather i installed it with sudo and now i can only get it with sudo
[03:46] <gnomefreak> B0FH: how many choices does that give you?
[03:47] <skippy> robzilla1983,  use the disks utilitys, and use the ntfs folder as the "access point", then enable the ntfs partition
[03:47] <ic56> robzilla1983: to what did you set the "access path"?
[03:47] <B0FH> gnomefreak:  2 with a *+ next to the number 2
[03:47] <robzilla1983> skippy: access path is that folder on my desktop
[03:47] <deshantm_> i setup an account, but don't know what to put in for the registrar
[03:47] <kbrosnan> varsendaggr, extensions are dependent on the user
[03:47] <skippy> good, now enable the volume and you should be able to get into your disk through the ntfs folder
[03:48] <varsendaggr> where are firefox extensions installed then?
[03:48] <deshantm_> i can't find any docs on google or the wike that are useful
[03:48] <cached> my sound stopped working ever since i upgraded to dapper
[03:48] <gnomefreak> B0FH: enable multiverse repo and install java 1.5 or use the wiki to install java from sunjava (i perfer the latter
[03:48] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell B0FH about java
[03:48] <kbrosnan> varsendaggr, you need to install it again for your normal use
[03:48] <bullrage> linxeh, any idea?
[03:48] <kimbaroth> Hi there again, i messed up my xorg.conf, how can I re edit it??? im ussing the live cd rite now (and I dont know how to access the /etc/x11/xorg.cong of my installed system from here).
[03:48] <B0FH> ok
[03:48] <xxyyzz> bderrly, got any other ideas?
[03:48] <Lolita__19X--> Hi guys, i want to change the file associations in ubuntu, can someone help me???
[03:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell B0FH about java
[03:48] <cached> how do i fix my sound? my sound stopped working ever since i upgraded to dapper...
[03:48] <skippy> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" kimbaroth
[03:48] <robzilla1983> skippy: i dont' see anything about setting an access point
[03:48] <varsendaggr> kbrosnan, it is there but it is jsut a red carrot
[03:48] <ic56> robzilla1983: what *exactly* did you type as the "access path"?  You probably typed it wrong.
[03:48] <Pjott> Hi!
[03:49] <varsendaggr> ohh i get it
[03:49] <Pjott> Just tried to install Ubuntu
[03:49] <bderrly> cached, run alsamixer, are any of the channels muted?
[03:49] <varsendaggr> i need to uninstalle with sudo
[03:49] <robzilla1983> i just clicked the change button and it brought up another window, then i browsed to my foler from there
[03:49] <linxeh> Pjott: congratulations on picking the best distro :)
[03:49] <skippy> robzilla1983,  good youve done it
[03:49] <couger> I need a pointer for a read me on getting smb configured if possible.
[03:49] <cached> bderrly: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:49] <JustinLynn> Pjott>how'd it go?
[03:49] <skippy> now just click "ENABLE"
[03:49] <Lolita__19X--> Can someone help me, i want to change the file association for MP3 in ubuntu ???.. :S please helpe!...
[03:49] <Pjott> linxeh: Let's discuss that some more, shall we?
[03:49] <Pjott> I got "Freq. Error" on my screen. Not from Ubuntu, but from the crappy thing in the monitor-machine
[03:49] <bderrly> cached, is the module for your sound card loaded?
[03:49] <skippy> Lolita__19X--,  right click on an mp3 file and choose the program
[03:50] <cached> bderrly: how can i tell?
[03:50] <Pjott> I also tried to increase it to 800x640
[03:50] <Pjott> Still did not work :s
[03:50] <Lolita__19X--> @skyppy: yeah i know, bu i want to double click on the file and get it open automatically with the prog i choose :(
[03:50] <bderrly>  /sbin/lsmod
[03:50] <cached> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[03:51] <bderrly> cached, look for ac97..i think that is what it is called anyway
[03:51] <robzilla1983> under the "Status" part in the partitions tab, it says Accessible, and the button actually says "Disable" , and there's a "Browse" button next to it
[03:51] <yurka> 8
[03:51] <skippy> Lolita__19X--,  yeah that should work right click "properties" and then "opens with"
[03:51] <cached> bderrly: where?
[03:51] <skippy> robzilla good, now leave that screen and open the ntfs folder on your desktop
[03:51] <bderrly> in the output of `lsmod'
[03:51] <Lolita__19X--> @skippy: ok i'm going to try that
[03:52] <robzilla1983> there's nothing in the folder
[03:52] <bderrly> eeek, they are directories, not folders
[03:52] <bderrly> no winspeak here
[03:52] <Pjott> I've been looking ALL over the place on the monitor's menu for frequenzy settings. I'm in Windows XP Professional now. Should I put it down to MAXXX-Low from here and retry?
[03:52] <Lolita__19X--> @skippy: HEY thanks a LOT!!
[03:52] <edvinasMD5> how can i mount my windows hard drive from linux?
[03:52] <skippy> np Lolita__19X--
[03:52] <Lolita__19X--> @skyppy: that worked great!
[03:53] <robzilla1983> should there be something in my ntfs directory then ? because it's empty
[03:53] <wims> Pjott,  make sure you find out what your monitor can handle
[03:53] <Lolita__19X--> Can anyone recommend me a good python editor, and a good ftp client for Ubuntu?
[03:53] <skippy> robzilla1983,  if you have mounted the ntfs volume correctly in disks it will show up under its access point
[03:53] <ice_1963> Window's xp what's that...:)-
[03:53] <wims> i have permanently dmaged a monitor by chooisng wrong frequencies, although that was an old monitor
[03:53] <seife> How do i play video formats like .ram or .asx that are used for an internet tv channel? i installed gxine, w32codecs, nothing works. HELP
[03:54] <couger> hell they used to be directories in dos as well before winblows gobbled everything up on that side.
[03:54] <gearry> I just upgraded to Dapper, and decided to try out rhythmbox
[03:54] <skippy> does anyone know how to mount an ntfs volume from the shell please?
[03:54] <robzilla1983> then i don't think i mounted it correctly
[03:54] <delire> Lolita__19X--: i like vim for python, and gftp as an ftp client.
[03:54] <Ron_o> seife, ram would be realplayer..
[03:54] <bderrly> skippy, yes
[03:54] <gearry> I can't get it to work at all, I launch it, get the setup screen, and it hangs
[03:54] <Ron_o> I updated through their website, IIRC.
[03:54] <Lolita__19X--> yeah but vim indents automatically and colors the text?
[03:54] <catchjosh> Can anyone recommend a specific Postfix GUI (Web-based administrations work, too...)?
[03:54] <WoodwardAve> skippy: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/(device here) /(mountpoint)
[03:54] <Ron_o> or you could try to do so with apt or synaptic.
[03:54] <lightstar> Lob-Sogular, for ftp you can use grtp
[03:54] <ic56> skippy: I know how to mount an NTFS volume from the CLI.  What's the problem?
[03:54] <gearry> I can't even kill -9 the damned thing
[03:54] <lightstar> Lob-Sogular, gftp
[03:55] <Pjott> I have a HITACHI CM823F 21" CRT Dual Screen. It should handle it. My settings in Windows are: 60 Hertz. On my Monitor's Menu, I have: 53 kHz / 60 Hertz
[03:55] <Ron_o> asx, I'm not sure but there is a way.
[03:55] <delire> Lolita__19X--: it colours the text yes, with :syn on.
[03:55] <delire> Lolita__19X--: it indents with ">>"
[03:55] <navarone> I must say xfce4 in dapper is sweet
[03:55] <kimbaroth> bderrly: vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf wont worked, it opens the xorg.conf of the live CD not the one that i was using in my installed system
[03:55] <wims> Pjott,  you need to look in the manual for horizontal and vertical frequency ranges
[03:55] <Ron_o> navarone, is it?
[03:55] <Ron_o> what's the diff?
[03:55] <Pjott> wims: Will do! ;)
[03:55] <wims> and then adjust your xorg.conf so that it matches your min and max ranges
[03:55] <robzilla1983> under the disc utility, if the status says accessible, if i disable then enable, will that actually delete anything off that disc?
[03:55] <Pjott> wims: For Ubuntu, or the Monitor?
[03:55] <wims> for the monitor
[03:56] <Pjott> Sure
[03:56] <Pjott> But I thought the "VGA" modus in Ubuntu CD-Boot should fiX such stuff, or atleast Ignore'em? :s
[03:56] <bderrly> kimbaroth, you need to mount the hard drive and edit the file...  mount -t ext3 /dev/hda /mnt/foo && vi /mnt/foo/etc/X11/xorg.conf ...obviously you need to edit the device and mount point but you get the idea
[03:56] <navarone> Ron_o: I have relatively old machine...1.2ghz athlon...xfce uses it well...512mb ram
[03:56] <skippy> ok cool, robzilla1983 there you have it - open a terminal now type "sudo mkdir media/ntfs" then type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda? /media/ntfs" changing the questionmark for the number of your partition
[03:56] <Pjott> ah
[03:56] <Ron_o> hehe, navarone I have an older machine by about a year or two. :)
[03:56] <bderrly> kimbaroth, if you have grub installed you can also use the recovery mode option to get to a command line and edit your xorg.conf that way
[03:56] <Ron_o> half RAM, 1/3 CPU.
[03:56] <Pjott> This was freaky
[03:57] <Pjott> I just took it down to 800x640 in Windows :s
[03:57] <skippy> robzilla1983,  no it wont, but i really cant see what you are doing wrong, try the command line method
[03:57] <delire> Lolita__19X--: but there are many good GUI IDE's around for python.
[03:57] <Pjott> wims: I've never seen you so close to me before :s
[03:57] <navarone> Ron...it is a bit minimalistic but cutomizing the panels and such is elegant and I found intuitive
[03:57] <skippy> WoodwardAve,  thanks for that
[03:57] <Ron_o> I think XFCE is great.
[03:57] <Ron_o> it's all I need, expecially with the plugins.
[03:58] <skippy> does XFCE work with compiz?
[03:58] <Kevin__> hey im lookin for some help
[03:58] <bderrly> congratulations
[03:58] <robzilla1983> when i try the command line i get an error message saying no such file or directory exists
[03:58] <skippy> im quite a compiz fan = well i like the effects which tax the gfx card and not the cpu anyway
[03:58] <gnomefreak> Kevin__: if you dont tell us what the issue is how do we help you?
[03:58] <Ron_o> Kevin__, that's what we're here fer'
[03:58] <Kevin__> lol
[03:58] <seife> How do i play video formats like .ram or .asx that are used for an internet tv channel? i installed gxine, w32codecs, nothing works. HELP
[03:58] <DarkMageZ> skippy, yeah, JKnife has gotten it to work, xubuntu is #xubuntu
[03:58] <skippy> robzilla1983,  which command ?
[03:58] <Kevin__> ok how do i run GUI in the server version
[03:59] <bderrly> seife, someone already answered you above
[03:59] <robzilla1983> sudo mkdir media/ntfs
[03:59] <skippy> cool DarkMageZ i might try it some time :)
[03:59] <Ron_o> seife, I already said that ram is realplayer...
[03:59] <Ron_o> and asx I don't know right now.
[03:59] <seife> sorry, i didnt change the question its just .asx
[03:59] <Whoops> anyone know why flashplayer is not downloading
[03:59] <spikeb> asx is windows media
[03:59] <navarone> skippy I haven't got nvidia driver installed to systems satisfaction. may need a fresh install...but no matter. I never ran many 3d apps or games anyway
[03:59] <Ron_o> oh, :)
[03:59] <bderrly> Kevin__, you need to install the xserver packages and gnome, etc
[03:59] <seife> spikeb: how do i install windows media in linux?
[03:59] <bderrly> i would recommend installing ubuntu-desktop
[03:59] <Kevin__> i think i did
[03:59] <Ron_o> seife, there's a huge page in ubuntu.wiki on that subject.
[04:00] <skippy> robzilla try "sudo mkdir -p /media/ntfs" then
[04:00] <Ron_o> try there since no one here knows. or wants to help.
[04:00] <ajax4> !flash
[04:00] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:00] <bderrly> flash sucks
[04:00] <yaru> how do i disable the touchpad on the laptop? it's been very annoying when i type
[04:00] <Lolita__19X--> Does anyone knows why my XGL crashes X after a while u__u
[04:00] <navarone> !nvidia
[04:00] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:00] <Whoops> thanks
[04:00] <skippy> navarone,  yeah the drivers are a pain, mine a quite buggy
[04:00] <bderrly> yaru, have you checked the bios of the laptop?
[04:00] <walo> Hi
[04:01] <navarone> skippy...I'ver tried everything...lol
[04:01] <yaru> bderrly, yes i have... it's phoenix blah blah ; when there was no option to turn it off
[04:01] <Pjott> wims: I've set everything to "Low" now.
[04:01] <Pjott> wims: Hope this'll be alright (-:
[04:01] <Whoops> bbl
[04:01] <bderrly> yaru, hmm, i don't know how to disable on a live system i can disable mine in bios...
[04:01] <KevinIN72> Ok how do I start gnome
[04:01] <troy_s> seine:  windows media is laden with problems.
[04:01] <Pjott> So, See you guys soon I hope! =)
[04:01] <kimbaroth> bderrly: with the recovery console what do I type???  vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf ???
[04:01] <robzilla1983> okay. that line worked. what should i try next in terminal ?
[04:01] <troy_s> seine:  best bet is to script and vert all of your stuff away from it.
[04:01] <Lolita__19X--> Does anyone knows why my XGL crashes X after a while
[04:01] <bderrly> kimbaroth, yep
[04:01] <troy_s> lolita:  yes i do
[04:01] <robzilla1983> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda? /media/ntfs?
[04:01] <bderrly> Lolita__19X--, because it is alpha software
[04:01] <kimbaroth> bderrly ook lemme try
[04:02] <troy_s> lolita:  its because the drivers for nvidia and ati are proprietary and closed source and therefore the community can't fix the problems.  we must wait for those companies.
[04:02] <Lolita__19X--> oh that sucks..
[04:02] <skippy> Lolita__19X--,  i assume you have read the thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351&highlight=xgl+compiz+thread+rule ?
[04:02] <Gold_man> quit
[04:02] <yaru> bderrly, which option did you turn it off? probably i might have missed something at bios?
[04:03] <troy_s> lolita:  some bugs are in xgl/compiz -- many are in the interaction between the card and the drivers.
[04:03] <bderrly> yaru, hmm, i don't recall, i did it a while ago
[04:03] <delire> Lolita__19X--: XGL is pre-alpha software. it'll all work pretty well soon enough. give it 6 months.
[04:03] <Saad_> Does anybody know the correct "Time Zone" for people living in CST and in Texas or somewhere close to there?
[04:03] <skippy> my xgl is rock solid, but i have annoying niggles - windows resize poorly, no vsync on the desktop etc
[04:03] <crimsun> Saad_: CDT, normally.
[04:03] <Saad_> Ah.
[04:03] <Saad_> Ok, let me check.
[04:03] <skippy> hehe what does CDT stand for?
[04:04] <skippy> central dessert time? :D
[04:04] <bderrly> Central Daylight Time
[04:04] <skippy> ah i c :_
[04:04] <valehru> hmm...is there a way to minimise the xchat to the system tray?
[04:04] <KevinIN72> can anyone help me with switchin to GUI
[04:04] <skippy> KevinIN72,  what do you mean?
[04:04] <yaru> bderrly, that's fine then :) thanks so much though
[04:04] <st3v3dnd> Does anyone know of any dedicated or virtual hosting providers that support the Dapper Server version?
[04:04] <bderrly> KevinIN72, if you have installed all the gnome/xserver/gdm crap then sudo gdm
[04:04] <KevinIN72> so i type gdm??
[04:05] <bderrly> yaru, sorry i couldn't help more
[04:05] <robzilla1983> skippy: i got the sudo mkdir -p /media/ntfs to correctly work. what should i try next ?
[04:05] <bderrly> KevinIN72, give it a whirl
[04:05] <Lolita__19X--> thanks guys
[04:05] <skippy> st3v3dnd, as far as i know most hosts dont like to make clear what machines  they use - you just get a directory in a webserver tree
[04:05] <D-side> any urls or info on making nvidia drivers go in dapper?
[04:05] <KevinIN72> 'sudo gdm' command not found
[04:05] <Lolita__19X--> one last question : how can i setup gaim so it starts when i start ubuntu ??... :)
[04:05] <slavik> !tell D-side about nvidia
[04:05] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: trying to start an x-session?
[04:05] <slavik> Lolita__19X--: look into gnome-session-manager
[04:05] <bderrly> Lolita__19X--, add it to your session... System->Preferences->Sessions
[04:06] <D-side> slavik: thanks.
[04:06] <st3v3dnd> skippy: I'm not talking about shared hosting. I'm looking for dedicated or virtual hosting where you have root access.
[04:06] <slavik> np
[04:06] <shodanjr_gr> anyone who says that linux is fit for the casual user should burn in hell...thats what my experience for the past 4 hours or so has taught me :p
[04:06] <skippy> robzilla1982. now do "ls /media/ntfs/" does anything come up ?
[04:06] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: linux is getting there ... slowly but surely
[04:06] <buffarama> i just upgraded from breezy to dapper, and X11 won't start. I was running gnome, and now it says no screens found.
[04:06] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: how would i start that
[04:06] <gireeshm> got a silly q
[04:06] <robzilla1983> skippy: nothing came up
[04:06] <gireeshm> what is the ubuntu color name?
[04:06] <Lolita__19X--> *thanks*
[04:06] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: type startx
[04:06] <gireeshm> the brown color name
[04:06] <skippy> robzilla1983,  are you sure you actually have data on that drive?
[04:06] <slavik> buffarama: in terminal "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:07] <shodanjr_gr> slavik there has been quite a bit of development since i first tried to get into linux a few years ago
[04:07] <slavik> gireeshm: the theme name?
[04:07] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: has it gotten better?
[04:07] <Spleenfeeder> buffarama: check the log, maybe your vid card driver isn't loading any more
[04:07] <gireeshm> I had my login window get set to xubuntu login window and want the brown colors back with GDM
[04:07] <skippy> robzilla1983,  type "mount", is your ntfs partition listed?
[04:07] <robzilla1983> absolutely. unless something to deleted in the installation process (and seeing as how i didn't touch anything on that disc i don't think it happened) there's lots on it
[04:07] <shodanjr_gr> a bit better
[04:07] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: server error
[04:07] <Pepino> hi
[04:07] <gireeshm> slavik, no
[04:07] <gireeshm> the color name
[04:07] <shodanjr_gr> slavik mostly hardware detection
[04:07] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: what kind of video card do you have?
[04:07] <gireeshm> as in something like #FFBB00
[04:08] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: built in
[04:08] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: if only the hardware makers weren't so stingy about releasing drivers
[04:08] <Pepino> somebody knows where's the loader config on the ubuntu install?
[04:08] <shodanjr_gr> slavik but lets just say that it took me about 2 and a half hours to get my wireless card working, something that i could do in 2 minutes in windows
[04:08] <gireeshm> go to Login Window preferences and tell me what the color name is
[04:08] <gireeshm> please
[04:08] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: its an old etower
[04:08] <shodanjr_gr> slavik and im still trying to get my graphics card working to no avail
[04:08] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: what chipset on the card?
[04:08] <slavik> and what gfx card?
[04:08] <robzilla1983> skippy: when i bring up the disc util, i click that "Change" button to change the access path, and i'm able to see the directories that are on my second drive
[04:08] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: paste lspci to pastebin please
[04:08] <D-side> ugh. installing nvidia-settings killed the glx portion? jeez.
[04:08] <shodanjr_gr> slavik the wireless one was a WG511 by netgear, got it to work using Ndiswrapper
[04:08] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: the output of that command
[04:09] <shodanjr_gr> slavik the GFX card is a Radegon IGP320M
[04:09] <gireeshm> anyone?
[04:09] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: do you know what chip is on it?
[04:09] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: you mean 200M?
[04:09] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: i cant its on the computer next to me
[04:09] <Pepino> somebady knows where can I select LILO insted of GRUB during the installation?
[04:09] <shodanjr_gr> slavik yes prism54
[04:09] <skippy> robzilla1983,  i really dont understand how this isnt working, it is a really simple procedure
[04:09] <shodanjr_gr> slavik no 320M
[04:09] <slavik> 320M? msut be new ...
[04:09] <ic56> skippy: sounds like robzilla's problem is that the umask hasn't been set in /etc/fstab
[04:09] <shodanjr_gr> slavik  no its a 5year old chip
[04:09] <gireeshm> what is the background color for the Human Theme for the Login Window?
[04:09] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: lspci should give you an idea on what type of video card you have
[04:09] <gnomefreak> let me know
[04:09] <slavik> oh
[04:09] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: use the ati module
[04:09] <skippy> ic56, if you could take him through it that would be great :) :) :)
[04:10] <jhenn> how many packages are available (official) for dapper?
[04:10] <shodanjr_gr> slavik tried it, X hard locks
[04:10] <skippy> im starting to think he should just put his fstab on pastebin and let someone edit it
[04:10] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: intel 82810
[04:10] <slavik> jhenn: over 18k
[04:10] <ic56> robzilla1983: you want me to take over your NTFS question?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> jhenn: 17,000+
[04:10] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: and radeon module?
[04:10] <skippy> robzilla1983,  say yes :)
[04:10] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: you can always use vesa as a fallback ...
[04:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell KevinIN72 about hardware
[04:10] <skippy> hehe
[04:10] <robzilla1983> skippy or ic56: i just tried to disable, and enable, and now when i try to browse the ntfs folder that i created, i get a message saying i do not have the necessary permissions to view the folder
[04:11] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: it worked when i had the desktop version
[04:11] <shodanjr_gr> slavik yes
[04:11] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: go to the link ubotu gave you and look for your card please
[04:11] <robzilla1983> ic56: i'd love some help :)
[04:11] <shodanjr_gr> slavik my system seems very sluggish with Vesa
[04:11] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: did you install server version?
[04:11] <RegeX> NIGGERS
[04:11] <RegeX> NIGGER COON NIGGERS
[04:11] <mnk> i am trying to view my external usb hard drive from vmware but i am not sure how to do it
[04:11] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: vesa is very basic ... have you tried the ati driver?
[04:11] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: yes
[04:11] <mnk> can someone pls help?
[04:11] <mnk> ubuntu linux recognises it, the the guest windows under vmware doesn't automatically recognise it when i plug it in, what do i have to do ?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <shodanjr_gr> slavik ive tried ATI and fglrx and they both crash
[04:11] <skippy> robzilla1983, ic56 can tell you how to get your ntfs drive mounted in fstab
[04:11] <slavik> hmm
[04:11] <shodanjr_gr> slavik ive tried vesa, it works but its sluggish
[04:12] <robzilla1983> skippy: thanks for the help. hope i wasn't too annoying :)
[04:12] <Pjott> wims: Nope, still didn't work!
[04:12] <skippy> i have no idea why this has been so painful though robzilla1983  mounting my ntfs was painless
[04:12] <troy_s> shodanjr:  can't say it enough -- send mail to ati and tell them to open up their blasted card specs.
[04:12] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: something happend
[04:12] <skippy> robzilla1983,  no problem at all, it is the machine to blame :)
[04:12] <Pjott> I re-set all my monitor-menu stuff, but still just as dead! >:(
[04:12] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: and that would be?
[04:12] <skippy> kill the machine!!!: )
[04:12] <Pjott> Can someone please help me? ^^
[04:13] <ic56> robzilla1983: ok, answer me some questions first, so I know I'm not missing anything.  Is this a new Ubuntu installation?  During installation, did you tell Ubuntu about your NTFS partitions?  Have you ever previously mounted the problem partion under ubuntu?
[04:13] <toothpick> How can I install the live cd to /dev/hda1 as a live "cd" ?
[04:13] <robzilla1983> haha. i get used to it. i'm a bit of a computer nerd, so i tend to jump into things without doing any research on it first, and then i run into all sorts of troubles
[04:13] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: long list of things and at the end E:  Broken packeges
[04:13] <shodanjr_gr> slavik at the moment im trying a more extensive way to install fglrx
[04:13] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: sudo apt-get -f install   (just that no package names please)
[04:13] <skippy> Pjott,  i take it you have done "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and now x wont let you in?
[04:14] <Pjott> skippy: I haven't changed anything in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org :/
[04:14] <robzilla1983> ic56: this is a new ubuntu. just did it tonight. version 6.06. during the installation i did not touch anything on the second hard drive (the one i can't get access to). i haven't mounted that partition under ubuntu
[04:14] <robzilla1983> i've literally had this installed for only about an hour
[04:14] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: 0 upgrades 0 newly installed 0 to remove 0 not upgraded
[04:14] <skippy> Pjott,  but the problem is that xwindows wont start?
[04:14] <searayman> is there an expose clone like the thing on macs for ubuntu?
[04:14] <mnk> i am trying to view my external usb hard drive from vmware but i am not sure how to do it
[04:14] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:14] <mnk> can someone pls help?
[04:14] <Pjott> I haven't installed it yet, and if I'm getting peases together, then you want me to run those in the "Self Defined StartUp" stuff? eh?
[04:15] <mnk> ubuntu linux recognises it, the the guest windows under vmware doesn't automatically recognise it when i plug it in, what do i have to do ?
[04:15] <shodanjr_gr> ffs that didnt work...
[04:15] <D-side> ah excellent slavik, thats precisely what i needed. thanks again.
[04:15] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: looks like radeon module is what you need
[04:15] <gnomefreak> run that as i typed it please KevinIN72
[04:15] <Pjott> skippy: That's Right!
[04:15] <robzilla1983> it's not a HUUUUUGE problem if i can't get this working at all. i'll just clear everythign and try a different OS, but i like what i've seen of ubuntu so i'd love to keep it
[04:15] <slavik> D-side: np
[04:15] <valehru> wow, this place is mad busy tonight.....haha....newbies installing dapper eh?
[04:15] <valehru> lol
[04:15] <bderrly> robzilla1983, this is what my fstab line looks like for ntfs...try it out changing your device and mount point as necessary...
[04:15] <Ron_o> robzilla1983, what's the problem?
[04:15] <Pjott> skippy: I get the first menu like: Start Ubuntu - Start Ubuntu (Safe Graphic) - Start from HardDrive etc.
[04:15] <slavik> mnk: recognise what?
[04:15] <bderrly> /dev/hda1       /win            ntfs    ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222   0       0
[04:15] <Spleenfeeder> Is it normal to have the following packages held back from apt-get? "enigma flashplugin-nonfree gdk-imlib1"
[04:15] <Ron_o> can't mount second HD?
[04:15] <Spleenfeeder> I am running dapper
[04:15] <wims> Pjott,  did you get your monitor manual and put those values in your xorg.conf ?
[04:15] <searayman> anythign like hot corners i can download for ubuntu?
[04:15] <robzilla1983> bderrly: no idea what that line means :(
[04:15] <Ron_o> can't mount hdb1?
[04:15] <slavik> searayman: what's hot corners?
[04:16] <robzilla1983> ron_o: that is the problem yes
[04:16] <Pjott> wims: How can I put it into "xorg.conf" when I have it on the CD?
[04:16] <ic56> robzilla1983: ok, that makes sense.  Now, let's find out what you've been up to in the last hour.  Type this command in the Terminal for me, and tell me what you see: grep <disk partition name> /etc/fstab  Where partition name is something like hdb1.
[04:16] <JanneM> Anybody know how to deal with font matching issues? It seems apps that rely on the default fontconfig behavior gives me unantialiased Japanese fonts for most (but not all) font sizes
[04:16] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: ok it did a bunch of stuff
[04:16] <bderrly> robzilla1983, it is a line to put in your /etc/fstab file
[04:16] <slavik> anyone know of anything like azureus that doesn't suck as much?
[04:16] <robzilla1983> ron_o hdb1 is exactly it
[04:16] <wims> Pjott,  oh, you're just running the live cd ?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: is it installing anything?
[04:16] <Pjott> wims: I might sound like an idiot
[04:16] <Ron_o> robzilla, open up /etc/fstab and put those lines the bderrly mentioned above.
[04:16] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: downloading/installing?
[04:16] <searayman> slavik: its liek when you move you mouse to a corner it will spread out all your opne windows so you can see them all. Apple computers have it its called expose
[04:16] <Ron_o> it will mount your HD.
[04:16] <Ron_o> and read the ubuntu.wiki..
[04:16] <Bot_Builder> hmm, why does services have three different task daemons and two loggers?
[04:16] <bderrly> robzilla1983, but you need to change the /dev/hd? and /path/to/mount/point
[04:16] <Pjott> wims: I do that at start, right. Then I could choose to install it if I wanted, according to Ubuntu Norge (Ubuntu Norway)'s HomePage
[04:16] <Ron_o> search for mounting on there.
[04:16] <slavik> searayman: I use the window list for that :P
[04:17] <Ron_o> mounting isn't automatic in ubuntu like it is in Windows.
[04:17] <searayman> slavik: what do u mean
[04:17] <robzilla1983> ic56: i typed grep hdb1 /etc/fstab
[04:17] <robzilla1983> ... nothing happened
[04:17] <bderrly> Ron_o, it is if you set it up correctly...  ;-)
[04:17] <slavik> searayman: I don'
[04:17] <slavik> searayman: I don't need such a thing :P
[04:17] <Ron_o> sur bderrly ..
[04:17] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: yeah installing i think
[04:17] <Ron_o> I know that.
[04:17] <mnk> slavik: i am trying to view my external usb hard drive from vmware but i am not sure how to do it
[04:17] <Ron_o> but coming from Windows myself I know what he's thinking.
[04:17] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: when its done let me know if im still here
[04:17] <searayman> slavik: do u knwo anyhtign that i can get that dose this?
[04:17] <Pjott> wims: Any idas so far? :s
[04:17] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: done
[04:17] <slavik> mnk: you need to give access to vmware for the usb drive, it's one of the settings
[04:18] <Ron_o> robzilla1983, type this sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:18] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:18] <mnk> slavik: how can i do that, please?
[04:18] <Ron_o> start with sudo
[04:18] <bderrly> hehe, this is crazy
[04:18] <skippy> Pjott,  what message does X crash out with when you run it off the live CD?
[04:18] <wims> Pjott,  yes, in the newest version of Ubuntu you install from a live cd enviroment. Dunno if it's possible to install from a text based envirmoent like in the older versions of ubuntu
[04:18] <Pjott> sudo -> root pw -> run cmd
[04:18] <V-for-Vendetta> hi, just a easy question
[04:18] <shodanjr_gr> oh well forget this about ATI
[04:18] <robzilla1983> ron_o...typed sudo gedit /etc/fstab. new screen with lots of info came up\
[04:18] <Pjott> skippy: None.
[04:18] <shodanjr_gr> im not gona be playing any games on this thing anywa....
[04:18] <ic56> robzilla1983: ok.  Sounds like you're a good candidate for using an automated tool.  You can download it from the official site and run it.  However it so happens I'm working on it and have some modifications I'd like to test out.  Wanna be my guiney pig or do you wanna play it safe?
[04:18] <Pjott> skippy: My monitor gives me "Freq. Scan error"
[04:18] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[04:18] <Pjott> wims: OK :/
[04:18] <V-for-Vendetta> where can i found the ubuntu on spanish irc channel?
[04:19] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: ok
[04:19] <Pepino> somebody knows how to install lilo instead of grub at the installation?
[04:19] <Pjott> gnomefreak: Agreed ;)
[04:19] <shodanjr_gr> guys what about divx/xvid/mp3 decoding on dapper?
[04:19] <robzilla1983> ic56: will this actually delete the partition?
[04:19] <Ron_o> what is your partition ntfs?
[04:19] <Ron_o> from XP?
[04:19] <bderrly> V-for-Vendetta, #ubuntu-es i would imagine
[04:19] <robzilla1983> ron_o: yes, ntfs, from xp
[04:19] <V-for-Vendetta> yty :)
[04:19] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: it did the same thing as before
[04:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell shodanjr_gr -about divx
[04:19] <ic56> robzilla1983: the tool configures ubuntu to recognize your partition.  It does not delete anything.
[04:19] <Ron_o> hdb1, right?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <skippy> Pjott, ah i see, i think you will have to install without the luxury of the live CD then - you will be able to configure your monitor later on
[04:19] <gnomefreak> now i will brb i really need this smoke
[04:20] <shodanjr_gr> thanks gnomefreak
[04:20] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: not installed so not removed
[04:20] <wims> skippy,  excactly how do he do that?
[04:20] <robzilla1983> ron_o: yes, hdb1
[04:20] <Pjott> skippy: That's what I missed to hear ;D
[04:20] <Ron_o> try to put this in there: /dev/hdb1       /win            ntfs    ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222   0
[04:20] <robzilla1983> ic56: i'll try it as long as nothing gets deleted
[04:20] <Ron_o> and tell me when you're done.
[04:20] <wastrel> "hella"
[04:20] <Pjott> skippy: Any possibility to make that happen if I add an extra command at the "start"-thingy?
[04:20] <skippy> Pjott,  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" run from the recovery mode will allow you to correctly set up your monitor = but you will have to do a ncurses based install first - which means you will have to download the "alternate" installation CD"
[04:20] <ic56> robzilla1983: which version?  The old or the one I'm testing?
[04:21] <robzilla1983> ron_o: put /dev/hdb1       /win            ntfs    ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222   0 where?
[04:21] <wamd> Hi all.  Just wondering, has one had issues with X randomly locking up?  A quick C-A-BSp fixes the problem but I can be working away fine all day and all of a sudden boom, it locks up.
[04:21] <skippy> Pjott,  i dont think that will work, because the start thingy is for kernel parameters, not xorg parameters
[04:21] <ic56> robzilla1983 (neither does any deleting)
[04:21] <Pjott> skippy: Fine. I just D/L the "command based" install then?
[04:21] <bderrly> robzilla1983, after you edit your /etc/fstab file you need to run this on the command line:  sudo mkdir /win
[04:21] <Spleenfeeder> robzilla1983: /etc/fstab
[04:21] <robzilla1983> ic56: i'll try the one you're testing. might as well be a good guiney pig
[04:21] <Pjott> skippy: or is that lot's of writing etc.? :s
[04:21] <Ron_o> in /etc/fstab
[04:21] <skippy> Pjott,  i dont suppose you have another monitor you could use just for the install? :)
[04:21] <Pepino> somebody knows how to install LILO instead of GRUB at the installation?
[04:21] <robzilla1983> so just add that line to the end of the file, save, and try the sudo mkdir /win ?
[04:21] <Pjott> ;p
[04:21] <Pjott> I wish so :/
[04:21] <ic56> robzilla1983: excellent!  Here's the URL: http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter.txt
[04:21] <skippy> Pjott, hehe
[04:22] <bderrly> Pepino, any particular reason?
[04:22] <Pjott> HmmmZ... Well. Then I'll Download a new one
[04:22] <Cheshirc> i'm having the hwclock adjtime localtime prob ..(xbunutu started beta to present) any got a clue for me ? i thought i'd tried eveything .. clock is 7 hours off
[04:22] <Pjott> chriiiiist! :/
[04:22] <bderrly> robzilla1983, yes
[04:22] <slavik> where do I change the setting to have ubuntu make changes to usb drives right away (instead of mnaking changes when I eject the device)
[04:22] <skippy> Pjott,  try the "alternatite" installation CD
[04:22] <wims> Pjott,  hvor bor du ?
[04:22] <bderrly> robzilla1983, after the mkdir command you need to do sudo mount -a
[04:22] <Pepino> bderrly, yes, grub fails to boot
[04:22] <Pjott> wims: Norge, Haugesund
[04:22] <shodanjr_gr> hm...
[04:22] <ic56> robzilla1983: save it into a file from your browser, then type: sudo sh <filename>
[04:22] <bderrly> Pepino, are you sure it is a grub problem?
[04:22] <robzilla1983> ic56: just give me five minutes here
[04:22] <Pjott> omFg.. Du MTTE vre norsk...
[04:23] <Pjott> wims: S det p nicket btw. ;p
[04:23] <wims> Pjott, lawl
[04:23] <Ron_o> robzilla1983, wait..
[04:23] <Pepino> bderrly, GRUB is giving me the error 17
[04:23] <Pjott> Let's take English here
[04:23] <Ron_o> one second.
[04:23] <shodanjr_gr> im trying sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly but i get an error message
[04:23] <Pjott> #Ubuntu-no
[04:23] <Pjott> :)
[04:23] <mnk> slavik: how can i do that, please? cos my usb devices r not showing up in VM->removable devices->usb devices
[04:23] <robzilla1983> bderrly: i just typed sudo mount -a
[04:23] <slavik> mnk: I am not sure, I don't have vmware anymore so can't help you, sorry
[04:23] <ic56> robzilla1983: It will add the entry in /etc/fstab (plus some comments) and create a mount point in the /media directory.  It will also tell you what it's doing and I'd appreciate a cut and paste of that in the pastebin.
[04:23] <robzilla1983> ron_o: wait for what?
[04:23] <Pepino> bderrly, i've tried LILO on a SUSE installation and works well
[04:23] <bderrly> robzilla1983, ls /win
[04:23] <skippy> shodanjr_gr, what is the error message of which you speak?
[04:24] <Ron_o> robzilla1983, go here.
[04:24] <Pepino> bderrly,  that's why i want to install LILo instead of GRUB
[04:24] <Ron_o> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?highlight=%28mount%29
[04:24] <Ron_o> this will explain everything.
[04:24] <robzilla1983> bderrly: ls: /win: Permission denied
[04:24] <Ron_o> learn about mounting real well.
[04:24] <bderrly> Pepino, grub works well too...  apt-get install lilo
[04:24] <shodanjr_gr> skippy something about the package not having an installation candidate
[04:24] <Ron_o> it's very important you understand what's going on.
[04:24] <jadaz87> hello i am on dapper and i have an external monitor attached to my laptop when i unplug the vga cable i do not have any video on the laptoplcd screen
[04:24] <bderrly> robzilla1983, sudo chmod 777 /win
[04:24] <Ron_o> unless you like to pull your hair out or something.
[04:24] <Pepino> bderrly,  I could not boot my machine
[04:24] <DAaaMan64> hey has amarok on dapper been acting up for people?  Answer even if it hasn't for you.  This is really weird.
[04:24] <robzilla1983> chmod: changing permissions of `/win': Read-only file system
[04:24] <Pepino> bderrly,  then I cannot use apt-get
[04:24] <BlackSolaris> hey, I am trying to install Ubuntu, but X wont start for some reason.  I don't really care, I just need to know how to start the Ubuntu installer from the command line
[04:25] <Pepino> bderrly,  I need to do it at the install
[04:25] <Ron_o> robzilla1983, to be able to comm. better, let's try #ubuntu-offtopic, OK?
[04:25] <bderrly> Pepino, i don't know if that is possible...perhaps if you look through the options in the installer before it starts, you know when the cd brings you to the boot menu
[04:25] <Ron_o> this moves too fast in here. :)
[04:25] <skippy> shodanjr_gr, i suggest you do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit it to look like mine : - http://pastebin.com/758936, then do "sudo apt-get update"
[04:26] <robzilla1983> sure. let's hope i can figure out how to change channels
[04:26] <skippy> shodanjr_gr, then see if you can get the package after that
[04:26] <Pepino> bderrly, ok, I tried, but I can't find the option at the partition time
[04:26] <jighead> BlackSolaris: if you've run the install and gdm is failing, hit ctl+alt+F1 to get to a console
[04:26] <bderrly> Pepino, i really, _really_ doubt it is an issue with grub
[04:26] <KevinIN72> BlackSolaris: do you mean x windows
[04:26] <ic56> robzilla1983: have you downloaded the script yet?
[04:27] <Ron_o> type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:27] <Pepino> bderrly,  I installed SUSE and use GRUB and it was the same
[04:27] <BlackSolaris> I guess, it just said that X failed to start, and I am staring at a command line now (ubuntu@ubuntu:~$)
[04:27] <robzilla1983> ic56: not yet no
[04:27] <Pepino> bderrly,  then I installed SUSE with LILO and it can boot
[04:27] <skippy> out of interest are any of you using IRC from a terminal or tty?
[04:27] <wastrel> the command line is your friend
[04:27] <skippy> if so tell me which client you use please?
[04:27] <KevinIN72> BlackSolaris: well im also trying to get mine to work
[04:27] <Pepino> bderrly,  the error is : error 17: cannot boot selected partition
[04:27] <robzilla1983> ic56: i'm just gonna see what ron has to say, i'll get back to you
[04:28] <wastrel> skippy:  i like bitchx, but use xchat nowadays
[04:28] <blank> !mountwindows
[04:28] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:28] <skippy> hehe bitchx sounds good :)
[04:28] <braniff> bitchx is such a bitch
[04:29] <richard> hello
[04:29] <richard> room
[04:29] <nbx909> !tell braniff about language
[04:29] <Pjott> braniff: Welcome to XChat ;p
[04:29] <richard>  can s'one help me
[04:29] <BlackSolaris> so is there a command I should run to start the installer?
[04:29] <gnomefreak> richard: you havent told us with what you need help
[04:29] <Cheshirc> maybe
[04:29] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: are you on dapper?
[04:29] <KevinIN72> BlackSolaris: idk that is what im tryin to figure out
[04:29] <mnk> does anyone know how i can access my usb hard drive [which ubuntu recognises]  from, vmware win xp guest?
[04:30] <richard> i get this error when i try to play a dvd movie:  cannot mount dvd
[04:30] <Pjott> richard: Open your WEB-Browser (Mozilla, IE etc.) - Type in this at your Adress-Bar: 66.249.93.104 -> Press Enter
[04:30] <CaBlGuY> I need a enlightenment guru..  :o)
[04:30] <bderrly> Pepino, have you googled for grub error 17?
[04:30] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: the newest one 6.06
[04:30] <Pepino> bderrly,  yes
[04:30] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: hmmmmm
[04:30] <Pepino> bderrly,  i've read a lot
[04:30] <jighead> BlackSolaris: if X is your only problem, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:30] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:30] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: well i had 5.1 on it than i upgraded to 6
[04:30] <Pjott> richard: Either that, or explain your problem (-:
[04:30] <BlackSolaris> jighead: ok, let me try that
[04:30] <Pepino> bderrly,  but the most interested solution i found was to replace grub
[04:30] <MaKkY> can someone PLZ help me...
[04:30] <jighead> BlackSolaris: do you know what video card you have?
[04:30] <MaKkY> NEED HELP REAL BAD!
[04:31] <jighead> BlackSolaris: you can run lspci and find out if it is ATI, Nvidia, etc
[04:31] <gnomefreak> MaKkY: lose the caps please
[04:31] <nbx909> MaKkY, go ahead
[04:31] <Pjott> MaKkY: EXPLAIN your PROBLEM
[04:31] <Pepino> bderrly,  with lilo, now the problem is how to do that
[04:31] <Pjott> Sorry, long night ;p
[04:31] <BlackSolaris> jighead: it's some intigrated Intel card
[04:31] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: same thing Broken packages
[04:31] <Pepino> bderrly,  I have four SCSI disks
[04:31] <robzilla1983> ic56: will it only take about 5 minutes to try whatever you have ?
[04:31] <Pepino> bderrly,  and want to install it at the first
[04:31] <bderrly> Pepino, did you look in /boot/grub/device.map?
[04:32] <CaBlGuY> enlightenment.... anyone...  I need help..
[04:32] <MaKkY> nbx909,Pjott: I removed EVERYTHING off my hd... including my recovery Partition for XP.... all i have is this live cd; I wanted to keep XP yet make a partition for Ubuntu..... bad i lost EVERYTHING...
[04:32] <nbx909> MaKkY, and?
[04:32] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: should i be in root??
[04:32] <ch_604> k hi ^_^
[04:32] <Pepino> bderrly,  yes
[04:33] <MaKkY> nbx: i need XP....
[04:33] <Pjott> MaKkY: Google, search for "Hard Disk Recovery"
[04:33] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: no
[04:33] <ch_604> i have some monitor problems
[04:33] <nbx909> MaKkY, reinstall
[04:33] <Pjott> There are many programs out there
[04:33] <jighead> BlackSolaris: ok, that should be supported out of the box, fool around with dpkg-reconfigure and when you're done, do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart and see if it gets better, repeat as needed
[04:33] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: ok because im not
[04:33] <robzilla1983> ic56: you around?
[04:33] <bderrly> Pepino, can you post your device.map and menu.lst to pastebin?
[04:33] <shodanjr_gr> apt-get update gives me an error....
[04:33] <nbx909> MaKkY, install xp and then install ubuntu
[04:33] <khaije1> speaking of which do the new intel mac's run linux?
[04:33] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: what kind of error?
[04:33] <MaKkY> nbx909: how, i dont have recovery on the partitioned section anymore; all i have is... ONE LARGE hdd.
[04:33] <skippy> MaKkY,  calm down - you can recover everything form the ntfs partitions, but only if you dont write over them
[04:33] <shodanjr_gr> duplicate sources.list entry....
[04:33] <ic56> robzilla1983: yes, it will only take 5 minutes
[04:33] <nbx909> !tell MaKkY about dualboot
[04:33] <yurka> hey guys
[04:34] <nbx909> MaKkY, got an xp cd around?
[04:34] <yurka> i have a question
[04:34] <richard> i just installed ubuntu on my system but i cant play dvd's why?
[04:34] <robzilla1983> okay. can we open up in a new channel? so i can run back and forth from my comp here? (and how do you join a new channel again?)
[04:34] <yurka> how do i get root privilages?
[04:34] <gnomefreak> yurka: sudo
[04:34] <Pjott> richard: Codeck needed.
[04:34] <MaKkY> nbx909, they put the cd in my partitioned HD
[04:34] <ch_604> yurka: su root
[04:34] <shodanjr_gr> never mind
[04:34] <shodanjr_gr> i fixed it...
[04:34] <CaBlGuY> a-n-y-o-n-e-   Please..  little help with enlightenment?????    ANY help....
[04:34] <Pepino> bderrly,  let me reboot the system and boot with the live-cd
[04:34] <yurka> ty
[04:34] <nbx909> MaKkY, well then your screwed lol
[04:34] <richard> ok
[04:34] <skippy> MaKkY,  you need to figure out which are of the disk the partition you killed lived on, and make sure you dont write anything onto it - you will tehn be able to pull all the files back off it
[04:34] <mnk> does anyone know how i can access my usb hard drive [which ubuntu recognises]  from, vmware win xp guest?
[04:34] <gnomefreak> ch_604: please dont advise that
[04:34] <Cheshirc> so when i boot normally ? system time says it's 7 hours earlier than it really is ... i do an ntp time update .. clock looks good but the hwclock is then set incorectly
[04:34] <richard>  how do i get it?
[04:34] <bobby> why in gods name did ubuntu go from a tried and true (stable) installer to gentoos gui installer (unstable) which is only just out of alpha?
[04:34] <richard> and install it
[04:35] <ch_604> gnomefreak, k
[04:35] <richard> how do i get the codec?
[04:35] <BlackSolaris> jighead: I still haven't gotten dpkg -reconfigure to work... it just says dpkg: conflicting actions --control and --remove [...] 
[04:35] <earthen> yurka, if you type sudo -s -H you will not have to type sudo everytime you need you run something as root
[04:35] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: dpkg-reconfigure
[04:35] <yurka> guys
[04:35] <skippy> BlackSolaris,  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:35] <BlackSolaris> ahh
[04:35] <BlackSolaris> ok
[04:35] <yurka> i typed su root and i typed in my pass but it sais its wrong
[04:35] <obsidians> I've got a laptop with a built-in webcam (Acer Travelmate 8204). What do I need to do to get Ubuntu to recognize the webcam? It sees it in the device manager.
[04:35] <yurka> i dont know the pass
[04:35] <ch_604> yurka, dont listen to me
[04:35] <skippy> BlackSolaris,  literally cut and paste, linux doenst appreciate extra spaces and mixed caps :)
[04:35] <ch_604> its sudo
[04:35] <bderrly> yurka, root is disabled by default
[04:35] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure you are using the veesa drivers please
[04:36] <earthen> yurka, the password is your password
[04:36] <bderrly> yurka, sudo su
[04:36] <gnomefreak> yurka: use sudo
[04:36] <spartan2600> are there any bugs that exists in the thing that updates breezy to dapper?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell yurka about sudo
[04:36] <Pjott> bobby: Welcome to my world !
[04:36] <yurka> how do i enable root
[04:36] <nbx909> bobby, install using the alternative cd
[04:36] <Pjott> You need the "Text Related Install"
[04:36] <bderrly> yurka, don't
[04:36] <nbx909> yurka, you can't
[04:36] <nbx909> well you can
[04:36] <yurka> ok please listen
[04:36] <nbx909> but it's very unsecure
[04:36] <Pjott> Terminal: Sudo su
[04:36] <Pjott> Yeah
[04:36] <bderrly> yurka, LISTEN... sudo su
[04:36] <bobby> nbx909, yeah...good work, another 700meg I guess?
[04:36] <nbx909> yurka, to run stuff as root do sudo su
[04:36] <yurka> i am running a program in terminal
[04:37] <Pjott> Don't log in to it "graphical"
[04:37] <yurka> ok
[04:37] <nbx909> bobby, yep
[04:37] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: broken or not fully installed
[04:37] <richard> can someone tell me how to install codec so that i can playback dvd's ?
[04:37] <yurka> heh
[04:37] <yurka> ty
[04:37] <Pjott> richard: Open your WEB-Browser (Mozilla, IE etc.) - Type in this at your Adress-Bar: 66.249.93.104 -> Press Enter
[04:37] <yurka> sry i wasnt listening earlier
[04:37] <bimberi> ubotu tell yurka about root
[04:37] <ch_604> anyhoo i have this crazy monitor problem
[04:37] <bderrly> richard, if you google ubuntu dvd you'll come up with more stuff to read than you can in a lifetime
[04:37] <skippy> ubotu tell richard about restricted formats
[04:37] <Pjott> richard: There are plenty of them
[04:37] <bobby> richard, go to the ubuntu wiki and look at the restricted formats page
[04:37] <root____1> My xserver is broken after upgrading to dapper drake, it appears to be related to my video card, Radeon Pro 9600.  Anybody familiar with this?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: ok i think i know the reason but let me think of the package to fix it
[04:37] <skippy> richard read ubotus whisper
[04:37] <nbx909> !tell root____1 about reconfigurex
[04:37] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: ok cool thanks
[04:38] <ch_604> theres white streaks coming from the right sides of windows, and it only does it in ubuntu
[04:38] <richard> ok
[04:38] <skippy> the robot is whispering sweet nothings into your ears :)
[04:38] <richard> thanks
[04:38] <skippy> np
[04:38] <bderrly> haha
[04:38] <rpedro> MaKkY: look at the pm I sent you...
[04:38] <root____1> thanks
[04:38] <root____1> exit
[04:38] <lastnode> anybody know where the Conf editor is in gnome? (in ubuntu)?
[04:38] <skippy> lastnode gconf-editor
[04:38] <lastnode> skippy, thanks
[04:39] <ch_604> im thinking its a montor driver, but i dont know anything about how to deal with that
[04:39] <skippy> lastnode, just run it from a term, i think they hid the icon :S
[04:39] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:39] <lastnode> skippy, apparently so :)
[04:39] <richard> skippy thanks
[04:39] <Pjott> Well, I'm off for bed :)
[04:39] <Pjott> C Ya'll "tomorrow"/later today ;p
[04:39] <Pjott> 04:38:26
[04:39] <Pjott> arw :/
[04:39] <bimberi> skippy, lastnode: it's there, but disabled, you can enabled it using the menu editor (right-click on Applications)
[04:40] <lastnode> wth is pixmaps in?
[04:40] <ch_604> X_X
[04:40] <JavaPoe> hey, anyone having trouble with freenx after upgrading to dapper?
[04:40] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: ok uhh Brocken packages
[04:40] <lastnode> the directory i mean
[04:40] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: maybe i need the disk in??
[04:40] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: no you shouldnt
[04:40] <obsidians> I've got a laptop with a built-in webcam (Acer Travelmate 8204). What do I need to do to get Ubuntu to recognize the webcam? It sees it in the device manager.
[04:40] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72:  sudo apt-get -f install
[04:40] <skippy> lastnode, add a launcher and browse the icons, you can find the directories out that way (lol i hate gnome :) _
[04:41] <lastnode> skippy, better than kde :p
[04:41] <BlackSolaris> skippy: it's still not working, I have tried a couple of different configurations, and I can't find anything that works
[04:41] <skippy> lastnode, sad but true :) i think im heading for XFCE at this rate
[04:41] <skippy> BlackSolaris, remind me, were you reconfiguring xorg.conf? what was your aim?
[04:41] <lastnode> skippy, i rather like gnome :)
[04:41] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: ok did the 0 upgrade stuff
[04:42] <ch_604> i know its not the monitor, it works fine in other oses
[04:42] <bobby> obsidians, you will need to find what driver supports your webcam and install accordingly
[04:42] <jighead> BlackSolaris: what errors are you getting in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[04:42] <ch_604> anyone have any idea what it could be?
[04:42] <skippy> lastnode, one think i will say about gnome is that it is pretty fast and it looks awesome with compiz enabled :)
[04:42] <rjcube> How do you install Themes in Gnome, When i download a theme, its a .tar.gz file and if i try to install that as new theme it does not work, and i have tried a few files that were in the .tar.gz and all say not valid file
[04:42] <MaKkY> rpedro: pms...
[04:42] <BlackSolaris> jighead: how do I check?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: im not sure how to fix this there are too many broken packages and they wont fix until one gets fixed not sure what that app is thats broken
[04:42] <skippy> rjcube, have you tried jsut dragging them into the themes windows?
[04:42] <jighead> BlackSolaris: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:42] <skippy> BlackSolaris, can you not boot into x at all?
[04:42] <rjcube> skippy, yeah ive tried that, still says its not a valid file
[04:43] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: should i just reinstall 6.01
[04:43] <BlackSolaris> skippy: no, I can't
[04:43] <gnomefreak> 6.06
[04:43] <rpedro> MaKkY: just sent you a personal message now
[04:43] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: yeah
[04:43] <BlackSolaris> I just want to run the installer
[04:43] <lastnode> skippy, you got compiz enabled? got a sec for a pm?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: personally i would
[04:43] <Hajuu> hey im using aptitude, but anytime I get disconnected from the net, IT LOSES ALL MY SELECTIONS! Anyone got any advice?
[04:43] <KevinIN72> ok ill do that now
[04:43] <rpedro> MaKkY: my wasn't identified before, so I didn't know you weren't getting them
[04:43] <skippy> lastnode, sure but i just followed a guide, pm me though :)
[04:43] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: if you can do a fresh install
[04:43] <ch_604> >_<
[04:44] <cobelloy> Hi there, can someone tell me how to get nautilus to open as a two pane browser by default
[04:44] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: is there a format option on the disk
[04:44] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: yes during install it will ask you how you would like to do it
[04:44] <jighead> BlackSolaris: have you installed ubuntu? what installer are you trying to run?
[04:44] <rpedro> MaKkY: I think you need to register and identify your nick too to send messages at freenode :O
[04:44] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: ok sounds good i will give that a try thank you very much
[04:45] <rpedro> MaKkY: :O)
[04:45] <Mixx> does anyone know how to get VNC server running on Ubuntu?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:45] <rjcube> What file is needed to propaly install a theme? is it the actual .tar.bz, or is it a file inside it?
[04:45] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: oh should i do install to hard drive
[04:45] <gnomefreak> yes
[04:45] <BlackSolaris> jighead: Breezy is installed on this computer, as well as WinXP, but I am trying to run the Dapper installer becuase I want to repartition and overwrite all of that
[04:45] <jighead> Mixx: sudo aptitude install vncserver
[04:45] <MaKkY> rpedro, PM's please!
[04:46] <Hajuu> hey im using aptitude, but anytime I get disconnected from the net, IT LOSES ALL MY SELECTIONS! Anyone got any advice?
[04:46] <dick-richardson> how do I make my laptop NOT ask me for the password when I open my lid?
[04:46] <hanasaki> can someone look at a bug in ubuntu lauch pad and tell me if its dead or someone is working on it?   says rejected in one place and not rejected elsewheree
[04:46] <Mixx> jighead thanks i'll try that
[04:46] <hanasaki> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/48401
[04:46] <obsidians> bobby: How would I go about finding such a driver?
[04:46] <shodanjr_gr> guys, what's the linux equivalent of CTRL+ALT+DELETE?
[04:46] <Ron_o> cobelloy, I rarely use nautilus but if there's a way then look here: applications > system tools > configuration editor
[04:46] <Ron_o> go down to Nautilus and look in there.
[04:46] <rpedro> MaKkY: I'm not getting any messages from you right now, cause your nick is not identified with the server, you need to do that first
[04:46] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: ok it lockes up after it looks for hardware
[04:46] <MaKkY> im on a live cd,rpedro
[04:46] <bobby> obsidians, google I guess
[04:47] <MaKkY> well, can you help me, rpedro?
[04:47] <jighead> BlackSolaris: if you want to upgrade, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all instances of breezy to dapper and then aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade
[04:47] <bobby> slashdot switched over to the new css design just then :D
[04:47] <BlackSolaris> jighead: I don't want to upgrade though, I want to start with a completely fresh install
[04:47] <rpedro> MaKkY: sry, no , not here, this channel is for ubuntu support, not hardware related
[04:48] <MaKkY> rpedro, so where?
[04:48] <s|k> hrm now it works with xterm, but not with rxvt
[04:48] <TigerWolf> Im having problems with my nvidia drivers in ubuntu - when doing glxinfo it says direct rendering: no - i know my video card support it - how do i get it to work?
[04:48] <hit1983> how to install tomcat ?
[04:48] <jighead> BlackSolaris: ok, so do you have an installer downloaded?
[04:48] <Ron_o> !nvidia
[04:48] <rpedro> MaKkY: /j #hdd
[04:48] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:49] <MaKkY> rpedro i dont understand what you want me to do
[04:49] <shodanjr_gr> i got an issue with MPlayer....
[04:49] <skippy> BlackSolaris,  ok if im right your problem getting into X is only with the live CD?
[04:49] <jighead> BlackSolaris: or are you trying from CD?
[04:49] <shodanjr_gr> i start my dvd playback but i cant seem to be able to contorl the damn thing....
[04:49] <shodanjr_gr> all controls are non-responsive...
[04:49] <smacky_wolf_> Ron_o, you have to do more than just that howto.
[04:49] <Ron_o> smacky_wolf_, that's all I got.
[04:49] <BlackSolaris> jighead, skippy: yes, I am trying from the CD right now, I just want to run the installer
[04:50] <Ron_o> I know there's problems with nvidia, but, but what?
[04:50] <rpedro> MaKkY: just click here -->> #hdd << it's an empty channel I created so you don't have to identify with the server
[04:50] <Ron_o> should I have tried nothing?
[04:50] <jighead> BlackSolaris: there is no X-based install, it's text-mode
[04:50] <smacky_wolf_> I'll grab it,  give me a sec
[04:50] <FX> Hello
[04:50] <BlackSolaris> yeah, but I can't find the install
[04:50] <jighead> BlackSolaris: is the install failing at any point, or are you looking for a gui?
[04:50] <Hajuu> hey im using aptitude, but anytime I get disconnected from the net, IT LOSES ALL MY SELECTIONS! Anyone got any advice?
[04:50] <FX> Hey I forgot what unpacks a .rar file in linux, what is it?
[04:51] <rpedro> MaKkY: or type ' /j #hdd ' where you're typing your messages...
[04:51] <hit1983> no one can answer me ?
[04:51] <guest42> Hey folks
[04:51] <mnk> does anyone know how i can access my usb hard drive [which ubuntu recognises]  from, vmware win xp guest? pls someone help
[04:51] <BlackSolaris> jighead: I went to the option "start or install" or whatever it is called, and it came up with the "can't start X" error
[04:51] <SANTTA> i am having problems with adept, when i lauch app i get error  details: fail to execute child procsess "kdseu" no such file or directory, so what do i do, i just downloaded adept two secs ago
[04:51] <skippy> jighead i think BlackSolaris has the live CD - no text installer
[04:51] <cobelloy> Ron_o: thats it - thanks!!:)
[04:51] <calyth> quick question - does Linux 2.6 still refers to SATA drives as /dev/sdX?
[04:52] <Ron_o> hit1983, no one knows right now.
[04:52] <JavaPoe> for anyone having trouble with FreeNX after upgrading to Dapper, I figured out the problem.... you have to manually add users and reconfigure the node.conf
[04:52] <guest42> Does anyone present do any programming in C on linux?
[04:52] <jighead> skippy: that's helpful info
[04:53] <blakcheez> how do I set a different player to handle wmv/avi files by default?
[04:53] <Ron_o> balkcheez, that's a bit tricky because it depends on your app you are using.
[04:53] <BlackSolaris> skippy, jighead: what do I need to download then?  I was under the impression that the Dapper CDs could run live or install
[04:53] <Ron_o> but try Nautilus and right click on the file and go from there.
[04:53] <braniff> guest42, check out ##c
[04:53] <skippy> BlackSolaris, im searching the ISO now, im wonding if theres any way of hacking it to change the xorg settings, in the meantime BlackSolaris  you need to download the "alternative dapper install CD"
[04:53] <blakcheez> it's a stream
[04:53] <BlackSolaris> alright
[04:54] <skippy> BlackSolaris, the alternative CD has a text mode installer that does not require x windows
[04:54] <guest42> Eh, I suppose that makes sense
[04:54] <skippy> im ripping through the ISO for "desktop" now, but cant find the xorg.conf - so you best start your download
[04:54] <TigerWolf> !nvidia
[04:54] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:55] <DAaaMan64> no one has been having problems with amarok and dapper????? Mine keeps freezing in kde and gnome.
[04:55] <SANTTA> !adept
[04:55] <ubotu> [adept]  a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:55] <skippy> the dapper desktop cd doesnt make sense its full of .exe files lol - its as if M$ vandalised it
[04:55] <BlackSolaris> skippy: I'm downloading the alternate CD, I just have to grab another CD-R, brb
[04:55] <TigerWolf> Ive installed nvidia drivers - 3d works but i cant get OpenGL Direct Rendering to work - any ideas on how to fix it?
[04:55] <skippy> kk BlackSolaris
[04:55] <Burgundavia> skippy: the live cd has .exes for the WinFOSS stuff
[04:56] <SANTTA> sweet i like that command !
[04:56] <smacky_wolf_> Ron_o, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3 <-- Made my Nvidia work
[04:56] <skippy> Burgundavia, oh i see , thx :)
[04:56] <Ron_o> BlackSolaris, just mount the iso in /media/cdrom and point apt to cdrom..
[04:56] <Ron_o> simple. :)
[04:56] <Ron_o> smacky_wolf_, good for you. :)
[04:57] <smacky_wolf_> Ron_o, there;s something dodgy with the nvidia-glx pkg.
[04:57] <Ron_o> I know I've heard of problems with nvidia and ubuntu..
[04:57] <twobitsprite> someone told me this before, but I can't remember... what packages do I need to play mp3s?
[04:57] <twobitsprite> !mp3
[04:57] <Ron_o> but I don't have that hardware.
[04:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:58] <twobitsprite> ahh
[04:58] <BlackSolaris> ok Skippy, I'm back, it will just take about 18 min to download the other .iso
[04:58] <smacky_wolf_> Can you give that link to ubotu?
[04:58] <skippy> hehe you got a good connection BlackSolaris :)
[04:58] <skippy> very good, i cant wait to get home - my uni connection is rubbish
[04:58] <Ron_o> smacky_wolf_, sorry, I don't know how. Only admin can do that.
[04:58] <BlackSolaris> skippy: thankfully!
[04:58] <kurbacik> has anybody been able to configure hibernate with nvidia driver
[04:59] <Geoffrey2> I'm in the process of installing ubuntu, I'm at the "Create new Partition" stage...a little bit unsure of what to do at this point
[04:59] <troy_s> ron_o:  anyone can train the bot
[04:59] <Ron_o> I didn't know.
[04:59] <skippy> Geoffrey2,  ok dont worry we will guide you :)
[04:59] <vladuz976> my USB keyboard doesn't react to anything. what could be wrong?
[04:59] <troy_s> ron_o:  /msg ubotu blah is at http://wherever.com
[04:59] <skippy> Geoffrey2, what operating systems do you allready have installed?
[04:59] <Geoffrey2> Windows XP
[04:59] <troy_s> vladuz:  you need to turn on usb keyboard support in bios
[04:59] <troy_s> vladuz: on some boxes.
[05:00] <SANTTA> can some one help me with adept
[05:00] <skippy> Ok, Geoffrey2, do you have a block of unpartitioned space you can install into?
[05:00] <mnl88> is there an easy way to get mpa/aac playback for rhythmbox?
[05:00] <vladuz976> troy_s: i did. but if i stop using the keyboard for 2 min it dies
[05:00] <troy_s> santta:  too vague be a litlte more specific.
[05:00] <Geoffrey2> yes, 15GB that I freed up when I resized the NTFS partition
[05:00] <Ron_o> ..... would that work:? /msg ubotu nvidia http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3 <-- Made my Nvidia work
[05:00] <troy_s> vladuz:  strange weird.  have yougoogled your make of keyboard against ubuntu?
[05:00] <smacky_wolf_> !nvidia
[05:00] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[05:01] <smacky_wolf_> Yay.
[05:01] <SANTTA> i cant launch adept, it keeps saying cannot execute child process kdseu is missing
[05:01] <troy_s> ron_o:  ask ubotu for help
[05:01] <troy_s> ron_o: hell talk to you.
[05:01] <vladuz976> troy_s: yes, it's an apple usb keyboard, i haven't found anyone with a similar problem,
[05:01] <skippy> ok, Geoffrey, the easiest thing to do is just tell the installer to use the largest block on contnious unallocated space - it will partition it automatically for you
[05:01] <Ron_o> !help
[05:01] <smacky_wolf_> SANTTA, did you do an expert install?
[05:01] <skippy> Geoffrey2, unless you have special requirements, that is the way to go
[05:01] <troy_s> vladuz:  i don't know what to say.  99.99% of usb keyboards work.  maybe shell out 10 bucks for a non stinky one.
[05:01] <troy_s> vladuz:  but i don't recall anyone having lynch problems.
[05:02] <mnl88> can anybody help w/ aac support for rhythmbox?
[05:02] <Ron_o> vladuz976, there's a program called usbview from apt.
[05:02] <shodanjr_gr> wow....
[05:02] <babo> how can I test my sound in dapper ?
[05:02] <Ron_o> d/l it and see what it says.
[05:02] <shodanjr_gr> sun is getting up here....
[05:02] <SANTTA> after launching live cd i ran "install" on the desktop and rebooted
[05:02] <Ron_o> it's a start. Beyond that, sorry.
[05:02] <skippy> Geoffrey2,  at the end of the installation, a bootloader called "grub" will be installed, it will find your windows partition and automatically set you up with a dual boot system
[05:02] <troy_s> ubotu, tell mnl88 about restrictedformats
[05:02] <shodanjr_gr> been working on ubuntun for more than 6 hours straight...
[05:02] <vladuz976> troy_s: i posted on several forums but ppl usually ignore it. they probably think it's a stupid quesiton to ask
[05:02] <troy_s> vladuz:  well it _is_ an apple keyboard.  they aren't open source happy.;
[05:03] <jighead> mnl88: try sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-faac, and see if that helps
[05:03] <troy_s> vladuz:  so you can expect some problems.  that said, usb keyboards are pretty generic in nature.
[05:03] <Teukros> babo, have you tried using the live cd?
[05:03] <mnl88> jighead: already did, no progress
[05:03] <Hajuu> hey im using aptitude, but anytime I get disconnected from the net, IT LOSES ALL MY SELECTIONS! Anyone got any advice?
[05:03] <troy_s> mnl88:  is it drm aac?
[05:03] <guest42> Unfortunately, no one seems to be around in #cc : /
[05:03] <mnl88> troy_s: nope
[05:03] <troy_s> guest42:  whats your issue?
[05:03] <troy_s> mnl88: you could try converting it to flac and see if the flac works.
[05:04] <skippy> vladuz976,  your not the only one with the issue http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-44415.html
[05:04] <SANTTA> i don;t know if i did expert install
[05:04] <Bot_Builder> Ekiga allows me to call people just using my inet connection, for free?
[05:04] <guest42> Well, I'm just coming over from Windows, and I would like to be able to program in C. The only problem is that I had a fancy IDE that did everything for me over in Windows
[05:04] <shodanjr_gr> guys
[05:04] <mnl88> troy_s: i could, but that's a last resort...i have a ton of aac files
[05:04] <troy_s> bot_builder:  yes.  voip etc.
[05:04] <shodanjr_gr> if i get a no screens found error during X initialization
[05:04] <guest42> So beyond the programming itself, I'm not sure how to set up my compiler and what not
[05:04] <Bot_Builder> holy crap
[05:04] <shodanjr_gr> is there anything that i can do for it?
[05:04] <troy_s> bot_builder:  but don't expect to crossover to land lines.
[05:04] <Bot_Builder> oh
[05:04] <InnerFIRE> whats a good ftp client?
[05:04] <Bot_Builder> I thought thats what it did
[05:04] <troy_s> mnl88:  there are a lot of people with wmv files that didn't know any better too.
[05:05] <vladuz976> skippy: i saw that but that's not the same problem. he is connecting it differently somehow, that's why he has problems
[05:05] <troy_s> bot_builder:  there are some methods to go voip to landline, but usually you pay.  freeworlddialup did have some free landline links.
[05:05] <SANTTA> hello?
[05:05] <troy_s> innerfire:  ftp ;)
[05:05] <mnl88> troy_s: i had just assumed i would be using itunes primarily for a long while...i was wrong
[05:05] <guest42> So I'm just looking for someone to help me out one on one and run me through the basics
[05:05] <troy_s> mnl88:  well congrats on the migration -- the future looks brighter.
[05:05] <disinterested_pe> i cant get easy ubuntu installed it says ive got broken packages and i just rebuilt?
[05:05] <babo> Teukros: no, I've installed dapper already. I want to be able to see if my microphone works. I can play cd's no probs ...
[05:05] <mnl88> troy_s: heh, thanks
[05:05] <blanky> the install sequence for tarballs is ./configure, make, make install, correct?
[05:06] <troy_s> mnl88:  there are a few methods to decode aac, gstreamer is one -- try opening it with totem
[05:06] <jighead> InnerFIRE: ftp on the commandline will work; if you want a gui, gftp is nice or the "connect to server" feature in nautilus will do
[05:06] <troy_s> mnl88:  apt-cache search aac
[05:06] <Ron_o> it can't play anything on my system.
[05:06] <troy_s> ron_o:  you might hate it, but gstreamer is for use with it...
[05:06] <Ron_o> and it's quite large, too.
[05:06] <s|k> totem is the gnome movie player right?
[05:06] <troy_s> ron_o:  what is anything?
[05:06] <SANTTA> umm i dunno what happened to help for me , ill try myself i guess
[05:06] <s|k> I like it :/
[05:06] <WolF414> yes
[05:06] <jighead> second the hate for totem
[05:06] <Ron_o> yah, and the default one too.
[05:07] <troy_s> totem: is dead simple.  the default won't play dvd/etc
[05:07] <s|k> I like it
[05:07] <Ron_o> troy, mpg, avi, wmv... etc..
[05:07] <Geoffrey2> I take it Itunes won't run under WINE?
[05:07] <troy_s> ron_o:  you need totem-xine to play dvds
[05:07] <s|k> well that's what gnome is all about, simple
[05:07] <cef> ok, I've had a look about, but can't seem to find a way to edit grub stuff without going to the console. relaly annoying on a dual-boot machine
[05:07] <Ron_o> I use gxine whenever I can.
[05:07] <troy_s> ron_o: most of those are probably proprietary codecs :)
[05:07] <cef> really even
[05:07] <Ron_o> small footprint
[05:07] <Ron_o> troy, so.
[05:07] <Ron_o> gxine has no problem with the proprietary codecs.
[05:07] <richard> how do i get totem xine?
[05:07] <richard>  to play dvd
[05:08] <troy_s> ron_o:  actually, they all do.  once you have the codec installed, it isn't an issue.
[05:08] <jighead> Geoffrey2: if you buy the CrossOver version of wine, they have it working, but not under the OSS wine
[05:08] <nothingmuch> hi
[05:08] <Ron_o> I have the codecs installed..
[05:08] <WolF414> I need help getting warsow to work on ubuntu  (someone who has installed warsow on linux)
[05:08] <Ron_o> why totem can't find them I don't know.
[05:08] <Ron_o> it never could.
[05:08] <troy_s> ron_o:  then totem will play them if you put the xine backend on.
[05:08] <Ron_o> good thing because I like gxine better.
[05:08] <troy_s> ron_o:  sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[05:08] <Geoffrey2> well, that's why I'm dual booting at present :)
[05:08] <troy_s> ron_o:  and presto.
[05:08] <syuusuke> do i have to uninstall the restricted linux modules inorder to install fglrx?
[05:08] <Hajuu> Hey I have a dependancy issue... Um the libhal (hardware abstraction library) requires dbus-1 while libhal-storage requires dbus but I cant have dbus and dbus-1, which one do I *need*
[05:08] <Ron_o> I don't think I want xine with totem.
[05:08] <Ron_o> I like gxine.
[05:08] <troy_s> Geoffrey:  what?
[05:09] <disinterested_pe> this is friggin weird when i try to play wmp videos with mplayer it says it cant play them but it does lol
[05:09] <nothingmuch> dh-make-perl is not building packages with `sudo dh-make-perl --install --cpan Lingua::Stem::Snowball`
[05:09] <troy_s> ron_o:  it is totem using xine's libs... that's all.
[05:09] <WolF414> I need help getting warsow to work on ubuntu  (someone who has installed warsow on linux)
[05:09] <nothingmuch> dpkg: error processing /home/chem/liblingua-stem-snowball-perl_0.94-1_i386.deb (--install):
[05:09] <nothingmuch>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:09] <troy_s> ron_o:  as gxine is xine using a gnome frontend.  not much diff.
[05:09] <nothingmuch> any clue?
[05:09] <nothingmuch> no more errors
[05:09] <Geoffrey2> or, at least, will be once the install is finished
[05:09] <jighead> Geoffrey2: amarok is a nice app, it's not an itunes killer, but it is ok
[05:09] <Ron_o> I know troy. SOOOoo ;-)
[05:09] <Ron_o> geeze.
[05:09] <Tarantulafudge> has ANYONE goten flash to work with sound on ubuntu?
[05:09] <troy_s> geoffrey:  itunes isn't worth the time
[05:09] <shodanjr_gr> my flash seems to work fine on firefox with sound
[05:09] <Ron_o> but totem is a hog.
[05:09] <richard> i installed the codec too but i still cant play dvd using totem
[05:09] <troy_s> geoffrey:  just use an open source player and help shaping its future.
[05:09] <ice_1963> well yes
[05:10] <DarkMageZ> Tarantulafudge, i have
[05:10] <syuusuke> do i have to uninstall the restricted linux modules inorder to install fglrx?
[05:10] <piqqy> anyone here using Xgl?
[05:10] <Tarantulafudge> DarkMageZ: what did you have to do
[05:10] <troy_s> ron_o:  that's fine, you were wondering why totem didn't work.  now you know at least.
[05:10] <mnl88> troy_s: for some reason banshee could play them now...i hope it lasts.  thanks a bunch!
[05:10] <piqqy> I want to know how to set a background behind the cube
[05:10] <Ron_o> actually, the best video, music player problaby ever was a windows one: irfanview.
[05:10] <Ron_o> it doesn't work under WINE.
[05:10] <DarkMageZ> Tarantulafudge, there are some notes about it in restrictedformats
[05:10] <troy_s> mnl88:  it is because SOME players use gstreamer, some use other libs.
[05:10] <DarkMageZ> !tell Tarantulafudge about restrictedformats
[05:10] <WolF414> I need help getting warsow to work on ubuntu  (someone who has installed warsow on linux)
[05:10] <troy_s> mnl88:  the secret is in the details.
[05:10] <Ron_o> I knew why. I didn't care for the hog. :P
[05:10] <mnl88> troy_s:  yea, gotcha.
[05:10] <Geoffrey2> if someone can point out an open source player that plays protected AAC files, I'll most certainly try it
[05:11] <troy_s> mnl88:  anything 'gnomeish' is supposed to use gstreamer (not always though)
[05:11] <Ron_o> I don't like Kaffeine either. It takes 2 minutes for the thing to start.
[05:11] <troy_s> geoffrey:  you fell into a trap then.
[05:11] <shodanjr_gr> im
[05:11] <shodanjr_gr> guys
[05:11] <shodanjr_gr> i pressed ctr+alt+f1 and im now at a terminal screen without a bash prompt
[05:11] <troy_s> geoffrey:  the apple trap.
[05:11] <shodanjr_gr> any way to get back to X?
[05:11] <richard> can some one tell me why i  install the codec pack and still cant play dvd's
[05:11] <ice_1963> but if you chill it i like it :)
[05:11] <troy_s> shodan:  yep... ctrl alt f7
[05:11] <jighead> shodanjr_gr: ctl+alt+F7
[05:11] <shodanjr_gr> cheers :D
[05:12] <DarkMageZ> !tell richard about restrictedformats
[05:12] <shodanjr_gr> whats a shortcut to a terminal window in X?
[05:12] <troy_s> shodan:  the graphical terminal is on f7 in ubuntu.
[05:12] <Ron_o> I think I would have tried cntl-alt-backspace, but nay..
[05:12] <Ron_o> better off not.
[05:12] <WolF414> I need help getting warsow to work on ubuntu  (someone who has installed warsow on linux)
[05:12] <troy_s> shodanjr:  ??? you mean a keybinding to open a term?
[05:12] <guest42> I tried making a test C program, but when I tried gcc FingerTest.c, I got this: FingerTest.c:4: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function printf
[05:12] <Ron_o> I'm still used the alt-cntrl-del from Win.
[05:12] <mnl88> troy_s:  related problem: banshee skips playback every 30 seconds or so, with a short blip of silence.  any idea of the cause?
[05:12] <guest42> What's up with that?
[05:12] <shodanjr_gr> yes troy_s
[05:12] <Geoffrey2> well, I'd probably have just as little luck with Microsoft's proprietary protected music files
[05:12] <jighead> shodanjr_gr: Applications->Accessories->Terminal is where it is in the menus, is that what you want?
[05:12] <troy_s> guest42:  your syntax is flakey.
[05:13] <troy_s> mnl88:  hrm... could be dma possibly?
[05:13] <troy_s> geoffrey:  yes you would!  buy a cd.  you won't have any problems.
[05:13] <frank_> mnl88: low quality electrons coming from the power plant of course ;)    I guess I have nothing useful to say
[05:13] <shodanjr_gr> jighead i thought there was a default keyoboard shortcut to make one popup
[05:13] <mnl88> troy_s: lol, alrighty.  i'll think about it.
[05:13] <troy_s> geoffrey:  do NOT support any company that tries to secretely force drm down your throat.
[05:13] <Tarantulafudge> is automatix a good idea?
[05:13] <troy_s> mnl88: dma --
[05:13] <troy_s> !dma
[05:14] <troy_s> !automatix
[05:14] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[05:14] <rt> what if they are overtly trying to force drm down your throat? :-)
[05:14] <ghozt> anyone know where I can find information about XGL ?
[05:14] <troy_s> rt:  then you are an idiot
[05:14] <frank_> !xgl
[05:14] <ubotu> it has been said that xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[05:14] <troy_s> rt:  :)
[05:14] <DarkMageZ> ghozt, www.compiz.net & #ubuntu-xgl
[05:14] <Hobart> hmm
[05:14] <guest42> Oh? I just did the same thing I do when compiling C in Windows with gcc.... so I dunno.
[05:14] <ghozt> thank you.
[05:14] <guest42> I guess I'll have to... revise my methods.
[05:14] <troy_s> guest42:  there is your first mistake.
[05:14] <rt> well, i've suspected that for a while, given the difficulties i've been having with drake.
[05:14] <DarkMageZ> !tell darkmagez about help
[05:14] <troy_s> guest42:  follow standards and protocols and you won't have an issue.
[05:15] <troy_s> guest42:  use ansi c syntax for example.
[05:15] <guest42> I didn't know printf("Yo"); wasn't standard.
[05:15] <guest42> I've been bamboozled.
[05:15] <jighead> shodanjr_gr: there isn't a default shortcut setup, but you can go into the preferences and set one up if you wish
[05:15] <troy_s> guest42:  well obviously you have something wrong in the compile step...
[05:15] <shodanjr_gr> jighead thx
[05:15] <ubuntuu> what's the version of nvidia module inside "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686" pkg ?
[05:15] <shodanjr_gr> another issue
[05:15] <guest42> Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
[05:15] <shodanjr_gr> if X crashes
[05:16] <ubuntuu> ubotu tell me about nvidia
[05:16] <troy_s> ubuntuu:  apt-cache show blah
[05:16] <shodanjr_gr> is there a place wher ei can check out a log of the crash?
[05:16] <mnl88> troy_s: is there any way to get banshee to use gstreamer.08 instead of .10?  or would that not make a difference?
[05:16] <troy_s> shodanjr:  yep
[05:16] <troy_s> shodanjr:  /var/log has all the logs
[05:16] <guest42> Like I said, I don't really know anything about setting up the compiler itself. My ide pampered me. I suppose I'll go and figure it all out then.
[05:16] <Burgundavia> mnl88: no, it wouldn't
[05:16] <guest42> Thanks.
[05:16] <troy_s> shodanjr:  should be self explanatory from there for each one.
[05:16] <jighead> shodanjr_gr: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:16] <b0xen> Hey does anybody know if there is a VMware image of dapper drake around? I've been googling like crazy but I can't find one.
[05:16] <b0xen> for VMware player i mean
[05:16] <ubuntuu> troy_s, my bad, i didn't see it ;) tx
[05:16] <troy_s> mnl88:  .1 should be better... but you can always use another aac decoding lib.
[05:17] <Hajuu> Hey I have a dependancy issue... Um the libhal (hardware abstraction library) requires dbus-1 while libhal-storage requires dbus but I cant have dbus and dbus-1, which one do I *need*
[05:17] <mnl88> troy_s: ok
[05:17] <troy_s> b0xen:  just run dapper.  you won't be sorry.  ;)
[05:17] <ubuntu> hi
[05:17] <b0xen> no you dont understand, i run all my linux from VMware lol
[05:18] <b0xen> i dont have the hard drive space to dual boot, and unfortunately i need windows
[05:18] <troy_s> b0xen:  hrm... how come?
[05:18] <troy_s> b0xen:  security blanket?
[05:18] <Ron_o> try Clusty search engine. I go there when I cant' find anything on GOogle.
[05:18] <b0xen> read above
[05:18] <troy_s> ditto
[05:18] <troy_s> b0xen:  need windows is pretty um...
[05:18] <b0xen> shitty.
[05:18] <b0xen> yes.
[05:18] <ubuntu> sorry, what does it mean sudo
[05:18] <Aven> hey
[05:18] <b0xen> but i do *need* it.
[05:19] <troy_s> b0xen:  for what app?
[05:19] <kyledye> is it possible to set up a web site server from my box if i have the dapper desktop version of ubuntu?
[05:19] <Ron_o> !sudo
[05:19] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:19] <ubuntu> yes
[05:19] <troy_s> ubotu, tell ubuntu about sudo
[05:19] <b0xen> For perfect MSoffice compatability, and for itunes, because ive used the music store and you cant strip DRM anymore
[05:19] <jadaz87> how can i remove a package and all its dependencies that were installed with it?
[05:19] <BlackSolaris> skippy: finally, it's done downloading, I just have to finish burning it and I'll be ready
[05:19] <Ron_o> sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[05:19] <troy_s> b0xen:  oh lord.  another person who fell into the drm trap.
[05:19] <mnl88> troy_s: thanks for the help, i think i've finally got decent playback
[05:19] <Ron_o> or synaptic.
[05:19] <b0xen> yup.
[05:19] <DarkMageZ> kyledye, completely possible, i was doing it with hoary i think
[05:20] <b0xen> i used to always strip the DRM
[05:20] <b0xen> but now with itunes 6 no1 has broken it yet
[05:20] <mnl88> unfortunately
[05:20] <cocox> please somebody who knows how to activate the iptables rules without rebooting
[05:20] <troy_s> b0xen:  all the more reason to firebomb apple.
[05:20] <b0xen> lol yeah well
[05:20] <kyledye> DarkMageZ: where would i look for a walkthru?
[05:20] <b0xen> its too late for me.
[05:20] <jadaz87> Ron_o: it does not remove dependancies :-(
[05:20] <Ron_o> maybe they are needed by another application.
[05:20] <troy_s> b0xen:  don't say that.  just eat the pain and buy the cds or something.  mp3 stinks.
[05:20] <Ron_o> that's probably it.
[05:21] <troy_s> jadaz87:  aptitude apparently does.
[05:21] <Ron_o> if not, then remove them one by one.
[05:21] <b0xen> lol
[05:21] <DarkMageZ> kyledye, :P install the apache package, and configure it, then start apache, webserver on desktop box is up and running, for more details on each step, use google
[05:21] <b0xen> they arent mp3. theyre mp4. or something.
[05:21] <b0xen> lol
[05:21] <jadaz87> !aptitude
[05:21] <ubotu> aptitude is another front-end to apt, like apt-get, adept and Synaptic.  Unlike them, aptitude remembers what dependencies were installed with a package and can remove them if you uninstall. It also has a (somewhat buggy) text-mode interface.
[05:21] <kyledye> DarkMageZ: thank you very much
[05:21] <troy_s> b0xen:  yah awful quality.  go with flac
[05:21] <kyledye> !apache
[05:21] <ubotu> I heard apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:21] <b0xen> eh
[05:21] <b0xen> itunes is cheaper
[05:21] <b0xen> $10 per album
[05:21] <mnl88> quality doesn't matter as much when you have horrid speakers, though
[05:21] <Ron_o> why, I didn't know aptitude was that powerful.
[05:21] <Ron_o> I guess you could use CheckInstall as well.
[05:21] <Ron_o> !checkinstall
[05:22] <ubotu> it has been said that checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[05:22] <troy_s> b0xen:  um no.  crap quality.  not even close to cd.  not cheaper at all... most cd's these days are 9 bucks canadian and you get all the songs.
[05:22] <b0xen> maybe where you live
[05:22] <b0xen> but in NYC
[05:22] <b0xen> cds are $17.99
[05:22] <troy_s> b0xen:  move.  laf.
[05:22] <b0xen> and the quality is good enough for me.
[05:22] <Hajuu> does anyone know of a package manager besides synaptic which is actually able to save my selections?
[05:22] <mnl88> bOxen: but the drm isn't
[05:22] <b0xen> but its too late
[05:22] <b0xen> i already have DRMd music
[05:22] <jadaz87> Hajuu: aptitude i believe
[05:22] <b0xen> i cant magically unbuy it
[05:23] <richard> can some one help me with downloading and installing a software to play back dvd, the default players like totem dont work
[05:23] <Ron_o> Boxen, try used CD stores.
[05:23] <jadaz87> !dvd
[05:23] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[05:23] <b0xen> Ron_o, no.
[05:23] <mnl88> bOxem:  um...burn it to a cd, and re-rip it, and have even worse quality?...
[05:23] <Ron_o> !dvd
[05:23] <Hajuu> jadaz87:  aptitude doesnt. Everytime I quit or get disconnected I lose all my selections
[05:23] <troy_s> b0xen:  well... if you go to www.apple.com i am pretty sure they have all the answers for your lovely problem.  it will probably involve a core duo (tm) (c) g6 and a apple enema though.
[05:23] <jadaz87> :-(
[05:23] <b0xen> lol
[05:23] <Ron_o> !restricted
[05:23] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:23] <b0xen> ok enough with the zealotry
[05:23] <mnl88> lol
[05:23] <b0xen> all i wanted to know was if anybody knew of an image
[05:23] <b0xen> but i guess not.
[05:23] <troy_s> b0xen:  you should be able to vmware any iso
[05:23] <b0xen> i cant
[05:24] <b0xen> i dont have vmware
[05:24] <troy_s> b0xen:  last time i checked.
[05:24] <b0xen> i only have vmware player
[05:24] <b0xen> requires a premade image
[05:24] <b0xen> of the OS itself
[05:24] <b0xen> not the install disc.
[05:24] <richard> thanks
[05:24] <coucho> someone please help me, i just threw away my entire menubar
[05:24] <troy_s> b0xen:  ick.
[05:24] <troy_s> b0xen: umm...
[05:24] <ice_1963> you need to take the time to learn linux first
[05:24] <`Chip`> !streamed
[05:24] <ubotu> `Chip`: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:24] <b0xen> troy_s: Ick? Yes. Ick, but free.
[05:24] <Ron_o> threw it away?
[05:24] <`Chip`> !streaming
[05:24] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, `Chip`
[05:24] <coucho> yah
[05:24] <skippy> BlackSolaris, sorry i was in offtopic :D good luck with the text install :) after its finished you will be able to run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from the recovery prompt if x wont let you in
[05:24] <Knelix> Guys, I got a little emergency here... trying to install Dapper on a 10 year old Dell which was running Win XP.. it boots and loads but it's glacial...  it's just not usable... can I install Dapper in text mode, or should I just give up on this oldie?
[05:24] <Ron_o> coucho? what?
[05:24] <troy_s> b0xen:  itunes rocks apparently.  i don't know if there is a quick and dirty way to help you.
[05:25] <Ron_o> you men panel?
[05:25] <b0xen> Knelix try xubuntu
[05:25] <coucho> yeah the top thingy
[05:25] <troy_s> b0xen, but since you are into keeping those music files, i have some 8tracks for you if you want.  :)
[05:25] <BlackSolaris> skippy: thanks for your help!
[05:25] <babo> So when I click on a skype:+telephone_number?call  link, a blank offline skype opens. It doesn't connect the call or login. Afaik it works in windows ?
[05:25] <b0xen> troy_s: Arrogance only makes you look bad.
[05:25] <DarkMageZ> Knelix, how much ram does it have? and what processor and hard-drive
[05:25] <Knelix> b0xen, is that included on Dapper?
[05:25] <Ron_o> there's a command, but I don't know what it is. try alt-F2 gnome-panel and see what happens.
[05:25] <WolF414> My xine has no sound when playing wmv files
[05:25] <jadaz87> !xubuntu
[05:25] <ubotu> from memory, xubuntu is Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[05:25] <b0xen> Knelix: I believe it is a seperate ISO
[05:26] <troy_s> b0xen:  you should see my face, i already look bad.  it isn't arrogance.  just reality.  sometimes you can cut your losses.
[05:26] <cocox> ebody who knows how to activate the iptables rules without rebooting
[05:26] <jadaz87> Knelix: also if you are interesting i am developing a fluxbox based distro
[05:26] <jadaz87> !fluxbuntu
[05:26] <WolF414> My xine has no sound when playing wmv files
[05:26] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is, like, an Ubuntu-based derivative project that uses FluxBox as the desktop environment. For more info visit http://www.fluxbuntu.org or #fluxbuntu
[05:26] <Hajuu> does anyone know of a package manager besides synaptic which is actually able to save my selections?
[05:26] <troy_s> cocox:  google iptables.  there are a few good howtos out there.  i can't recall off the top of my head... let me look.
[05:26] <Ron_o> cocox, a firewall will do it. But not from scratch.
[05:26] <Ron_o> firestarter or Guarddog might do.
[05:26] <coucho> Ron_o: it says "i've detected a panel and i'm now exiting
[05:27] <Knelix> DarkMageZ: It's 128 MB, not sure about the CPU.
[05:27] <K4TRINA> jadaz87: why not an OpenBox based distro?
[05:27] <K4TRINA> jadaz87: openbox is much faster
[05:27] <Ron_o> coucho, sorry.
[05:27] <Knelix> DarkMageZ: I think it's 450 MHz, nbut not sure about CPU type... assume the lowest CPU.
[05:27] <jadaz87> K4TRINA: well there is more of a want for fluxbox :-(
[05:27] <menator> anyone know how to set the gnome menus to not use scrolling and just display the entire menu?
[05:27] <DarkMageZ> Knelix, hmm, the normal install cd needs 192mb of ram to install, try the alternative install cd, which installs in text mode :)
[05:28] <jadaz87> K4TRINA: maybe i will come out with an twin sister project :-)
[05:28] <DarkMageZ> Knelix, also, it is rumored that xubuntu runs better
[05:28] <coucho> anyone else?
[05:28] <Knelix> DarkMageZ: No way to do that with the standard Dapper CD (it's all I have now)?
[05:28] <K4TRINA> jadaz87: i guess so then
[05:28] <wenson> has anyone installed fluxbox 0.9.15.1 on dapper from source code?
[05:28] <Ron_o> coucho, I mostly use XFCE desktop.
[05:28] <Ron_o> I can't help much with Gnome.
[05:29] <ydnar> sorry guys, which music player would you recommend? amarok or banshee?
[05:29] <DarkMageZ> Knelix, well, the standard cd does say u need 192mb minimum... alternative is the way
[05:29] <jadaz87> K4TRINA: i will look into openbox
[05:29] <jadaz87> K4TRINA: are you here often?
[05:29] <Ron_o> ydnar, XMMS.
[05:29] <coucho> thnx Ron_o
[05:29] <coucho> anyone know how to show the gnome panel?
[05:29] <ydnar> any reason why xmms over the other two?
[05:29] <K4TRINA> jadaz87: it's faster is all... and i don't like a lot of the features that fluxbox implements by default, like that stupid excuse for a task bar and those annoying window tabs
[05:29] <menator> I read somewhere in the forums that they are called tear offs?
[05:29] <keegan> I prefer amarok myself...
[05:29] <K4TRINA> jadaz87: granted you can turn all that off, but still
[05:29] <`Chip`> !gnomoe
[05:29] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, `Chip`
[05:30] <`Chip`> !gnome
[05:30] <Ron_o> coucho, here's a fix. Terminal > type in Gnome and then <tab> and it will list all the commands for Gnome.
[05:30] <Knelix> DarkMageZ: OKay, I guess I''ll have to find some way to burn it.
[05:30] <cocox> troy_s, Ron_o, i've been looking for im asking for some help..... im still looking... but if anybody knows please...
[05:30] <K4TRINA> jadaz87: openbox doesn't try to come with any of that, so you really peice it together yourself
[05:30] <Knelix> Thanks guys.
[05:30] <cocox> Ron_o, from the scratch?? what do you mean
[05:30] <troy_s> cocox:  ok let me look...
[05:30] <coucho> Ron_o: i don't know how to open the terminal
[05:30] <jadaz87> K4TRINA: i am going to look into openbox right now
[05:30] <K4TRINA> cool
[05:30] <troy_s> coucho:  applications accessories terminal
[05:31] <coucho> troy_s: that's the problem, i don't have the menubar any more
[05:31] <troy_s> cocox:  what do you want to restart?
[05:31] <Ron_o> coucho alt+F2 <gnome-terminal>
[05:31] <troy_s> coucho:  ouch. right click and try to add a panel.
[05:31] <cocox> troy_s, i want to activate my ip rules without rebooting
[05:31] <Ron_o> cocox, what's your question?
[05:31] <troy_s> cocox:  and you passed them via file, not using the iptable cli right?
[05:32] <cocox> troy_s, yes.. just with my file
[05:32] <Ron_o> cocox, use a firewall like firestarter or Guarddog.
[05:32] <Ron_o> you can manipulate Ip tables manually.
[05:32] <`Chip`> Will installing Dapper 6.06 as Server from the Alternate CD include a GUI (GNOME)?
[05:32] <Ron_o> let the firewall do it for you.
[05:32] <troy_s> cocox:  hold.
[05:32] <cocox> Ron_o, i know that firestartter its just a mask for iptables
[05:32] <Ron_o> ok, sorry.
[05:32] <troy_s> cocox:  hold tight.
[05:33] <cocox> troy_s, ok thnx
[05:33] <Jon_> I have a question.. If you're upgrading from the 'desktop' 5.04 to a 6.06, will it ever ask if you want to switch to the server version (and remove all the other gui applications and such)?
[05:33] <Ron_o> Chip, I don't think it will, but you should be able to d/l anything you want through apt-get with a server.
[05:33] <chavo> `Chip`, installing as server does not include X or any desktop
[05:34] <frank_> Jon_: no
[05:34] <anfangs> hallo all
[05:34] <`Chip`> thanks
[05:34] <frank_> Jon_: it will update everything you have to the 6.06 version
[05:34] <devin_> Is there a reason, when i run glxgears it gears away but don't give me any fps  / output?
[05:34] <mardi> hi, how do we see if our dvd/cdrw drive is being recognized?
[05:34] <frank_> devin_: not fps by default now
[05:34] <`Chip`> would I just type sudo apt-get install gnome?
[05:34] <frank_> !glxgears
[05:34] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[05:34] <troy_s> devin:  -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark
[05:35] <chavo> devin_, glxgears -printfps works too
[05:35] <troy_s> woop frank beat me.
[05:35] <anfangs> will I run into conflicts if I try to install KDE when gnome is already my default dm?
[05:35] <Jon_> frank_: so what would I have to do? reformat? and only install the server?
[05:35] <troy_s> chavo:  i don't think it does anymore.
[05:35] <troy_s> anfangs:  no you shouldn't.
[05:35] <odinriko> I have 5.10 installed, do I have to download another iso to get the new dapper or can I apt the same updates?
[05:35] <jrattner1> Is there a newsticker for gnome similar to knewsticker for KDE?
[05:35] <jrattner1> ?
[05:35] <troy_s> anfangs:  kde-desktop -- then choose your session.
[05:35] <anfangs> troy_s: ok, cool..
[05:35] <bobstro> anfangs:  i have both installed, not a problem.
[05:35] <troy_s> jrattner:  gdesklets has some
[05:35] <frank_> Jon_: well that would be the easiest way I guess
[05:36] <anfangs> bobstro: alright, thanks
[05:36] <nathan_> glxgears is reporting between 15-25fps, is that typical for a 6600gt nvidia card?
[05:36] <chavo> troy_s, have you tried it?
[05:36] <chavo> nathan_, no
[05:36] <bobstro> anfangs:  i kept gdm (over kdm) since i prefer it.
[05:36] <troy_s> chavo: a while back yah... then it changed to that cooky param
[05:36] <Geoffrey2> looks like the latest version of Firefox hasn't made it to ubuntu yet
[05:37] <mardi> anyone? please, how do we see if our dvd/cdrw drive is being recognized?
[05:37] <anfangs> there are some kde apps that i prefer... the IRC client for instance
[05:37] <nathan_> hmm, i tried the howto on enabling the 3d features in my x configuration, wondering what's going wrong
[05:37] <Ron_o> odinriko, the update manager will take care of your upgrade, as long as all your applications are upgraded especially update manager.
[05:37] <ydnar> is there any reason why if i insert a dvd into my drive, it will load in totem and play, but not if i try to open it manually in VLC?
[05:37] <troy_s> geoffrey: its open source.  make it if you want.  but you can break lower level depends.
[05:37] <bobstro> anfangs:  i'm leaning towards going back to kde myself.
[05:37] <shrump_jimbo> mardi 'hdparm -I' should do it
[05:37] <KevinIN72> inorder to get a GUI should i run sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[05:37] <troy_s> cocox:  still looking.
[05:37] <troy_s> i don't remember it being that tough
[05:38] <devin_> ok i got a beater Radeon Mobility 7500 in my r-40 thinkpad laptop but i would think it should get better then 2795 frames in 5.0 seconds = 558.831 FPS
[05:38] <Ron_o> KevinIN72, look in Synaptic to see what the name is called. Sorry, I don't know off hand.
[05:38] <chavo> KevinIN72, yup that'll install gnome
[05:38] <KevinIN72> ok i was lookin for gnome anyways thanks
[05:38] <rredd4> does dapper kernel support ntfs write?
[05:39] <Ron_o> rredd4, no.
[05:39] <troy_s> cocox:  what are you using for your config file?
[05:39] <cocox> troy_s, still waiting ;)
[05:39] <Ron_o> ntfs is read only.
[05:39] <DJLC> What is the Terminal command to run an application as root? sudo (??) filepath
[05:39] <mardi> shrump_jimbo: that just spits out a list of hdparm flags
[05:39] <cocox> troy_s, what do you mean ?
[05:39] <odinriko> Ron_o, Thank you
[05:39] <shrump_jimbo> whoops
[05:39] <troy_s> well how did you add your rules?
[05:39] <cocox> troy_s, im doing all by scripting in the console
[05:39] <troy_s> rredd:  yes.
[05:39] <dick-richardson> how do I make my laptop NOT ask me for the password when I open my lid?
[05:39] <Ron_o> DJLC, gksudo <name of application>
[05:39] <troy_s> cocox:  using the add function of iptables?
[05:40] <rredd4> ok, then read this please  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php
[05:40] <DJLC> Ron_o, kthx
[05:40] <cocox> troy_s, something like this -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[05:40] <troy_s> cocox:  um... that should automatically take effect bro.
[05:40] <Ron_o> gksudo is GUI front end for sudo.
[05:40] <coucho> Ron_o: panel is only the bottom thingy
[05:40] <troy_s> cocox:  have you tested it?
[05:40] <Hajuu> does anyone know of a package manager besides synaptic which is actually able to save my selections?
[05:40] <odinriko> Is there a nice package list like gentoo-portage.com?
[05:41] <Ron_o> couch, I can't help ya. I don't know. Sorry.
[05:41] <cocox> troy_s, yes but i have to reboot for this to take effect
[05:41] <troy_s> odinriko:  apt-cache search will help you.
[05:41] <Ron_o> !aptitude
[05:41] <ubotu> aptitude is another front-end to apt, like apt-get, adept and Synaptic.  Unlike them, aptitude remembers what dependencies were installed with a package and can remove them if you uninstall. It also has a (somewhat buggy) text-mode interface.
[05:41] <rredd4> troy_s  have you been able to write to a ntfs volume?
[05:41] <ydnar> does anyone know why a dvd would not play in VLC, but work just fine in totem?
[05:42] <Kane666> hey
[05:42] <Viaken> Sold!
[05:42] <troy_s> rredd4:  ages ago, yes.  it is past the 'experimental' point if that is any consolation.  best bet is use fat32 slush -- copy the stuffs over and write there then share between the two oses.
[05:42] <Kane666> i need help on my windows machine, i cant enable my wireless router connetion :s any ideas?
[05:42] <Kane666> *connection
[05:42] <troy_s> ydnar: strange wierd.
[05:42] <ydnar> am i just not opening it correctly in vlc?
[05:42] <Ron_o> !windows
[05:42] <ubotu> For help with microsoft windows, please visit ##windows - see also https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[05:43] <Kane666> thanks ;)
[05:43] <rredd4> ydnar  type retrictedformats  in firefox
[05:43] <troy_s> ydnar:  possibly.  select dvd:// as your source url.
[05:44] <troy_s> rredd4:  he has it working in totem.
[05:44] <rredd4> troy_s ok
[05:44] <coucho> does ANYONE know how to get the menubar back?!?!?
[05:45] <earthen> how do I set my clock to 12h and to not update to daylight saving time?
[05:45] <coucho> i'm frikkin desperate here
[05:45] <troy_s> cocox:  have you tried networking restart?
[05:45] <hey560> when is edgy going to start development?
[05:45] <jighead> coucho: what does ps -ef | grep panel say?
[05:45] <troy_s> coucho:  right click add panels.
[05:45] <cocox> troy_s, how could i do that ?
[05:45] <troy_s> cocox:  /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:45] <troy_s> cocox: or stop start
[05:46] <DavidLeeRoth> hey guys, will xgl work with ATI cards?
[05:46] <nomasteryoda|w> wow, i see more and more new people here
[05:46] <coucho> troy_s: if it were that simple i wouldn't be here
[05:46] <troy_s> ubotu, tell davidleeroth about xgl
[05:46] <coucho> jighead: panel is running, that's not the menu bar
[05:46] <troy_s> coucho:  i believe it is:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:46] <DavidLeeRoth> does anyone know of any hardware that would cause ubuntu to freeze during install?
[05:46] <troy_s> coucho:  but it has been ages since i used that script manually.
[05:47] <earthen> nomasteryoda|w, yeah Ubuntu is growing fast :)
[05:47] <troy_s> coucho:  if that fails, try stop, then start.
[05:47] <cocox> troy_s, it doesnt works
[05:47] <coucho> troy_s: wtf has networking to do with it?
[05:47] <rredd4> troy_s this web site http://www.linux-ntfs.org/  says there is a driver for linux to write to ntfs, just in case your interested.  I didn't know if dapper kernel was already config'd to do this
[05:47] <MTecknology> coucho, he's talking to cocox
[05:47] <jighead> cocox: what menu bar do you want?  the one with applications, places, and system, or something different?
[05:47] <coucho> k
[05:48] <DavidLeeRoth> during install, dapper freezes
[05:48] <coucho> jighead: that one
[05:48] <troy_s> whoops sorry
[05:48] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  I had the same problem, had to redownload dapper install
[05:48] <DavidLeeRoth> however, it works on my laptop. what could be the case? i really want to run it on my desktop, and not my notebook
[05:48] <jadaz87> sudo: unable to lookup eclipse via gethostbyname()
[05:48] <troy_s> cocox:  did you try restarting the network?
[05:48] <jadaz87> does anyone know why that is happening?
[05:48] <omirix> Can someone help me? My GCC can't make executables, but MAKE can! What's wrong?!
[05:49] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, why would it work on one machine but not the other?
[05:49] <anfangs> i'm running an installation script that says i need to own $HOME and that sudo won't work -- any suggestions?
[05:49] <ydnar> nevermind troy_s, i can't seem to get the dvd to work in either now :p
[05:49] <omirix> anfangs: sudo sh
[05:49] <earthen> coucho, right click on any menu bar that you have left and click add panel
[05:49] <troy_s> ydnar:  told you it was weird.
[05:49] <troy_s> ydnar:  ;)
[05:49] <troy_s> anfangs:  sounds suspect
[05:49] <earthen> coucho, sorry that's new panel
[05:49] <bimberi> omirix: have you installed build-essential ?
[05:49] <coucho> earthen: i only have the bottom one left, and that only says remove from panel
[05:49] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, what hardware do you have? I doubt that the install cd was invalid because i downloaded it from bittorrent
[05:49] <jighead> coucho: you can hit ctl alt backspace to restart X
[05:50] <omirix> bimberi: yes
[05:50] <anfangs> omirix: yes, i did this... and a graphical installer came up (CrossoverOffice) that said i need to own $HOME... that i need to be root, and sudo prolly wont work
[05:50] <cocox> troy_s, yes i tried it
[05:50] <omirix> anfangs: run su then
[05:50] <ydnar> i think the problem is, now i'm using a commercial dvd, when previously i was using a ripped and burned to dvd-r, dvd
[05:50] <w^x> hey
[05:50] <omirix> anfangs: hit CTRL-ALT-F1 and login as root
[05:50] <earthen> coucho, you have to right click on a free space on the panel not over a open tab or anything
[05:50] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  maybe the cd  drive is not reading the cd in the other machine, had that problem too...  using a laptop, dell
[05:50] <jighead> coucho: you have to right click on a "blank" area of the bottom panel for the add panel option to show up
[05:50] <Linuturk> yeah, I don't like the live session installer. It seems it doesn't do it right most of the time (at least on older hardware)
[05:50] <pvd2006> ydnar, do you have libdvdcss2?
[05:50] <omirix> bimberi: any idea?
[05:50] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  and a dell celeron
[05:50] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, breezy works fine.  this is seriously pissing me off
[05:50] <ydnar> i think i followed instructions to get libdvdcss3?
[05:50] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  and a dell celeron desktop
[05:51] <anfangs> omirix: ok, thanks
[05:51] <bimberi> omirix: directory permissions?
[05:51] <w^x> I have a ATI radeon 9600 256mb memory video card i dont see any info on the wiki about this card.
[05:51] <omirix> bimberi: elaborate?
[05:51] <omirix> anfangs: np, gl! :)
[05:51] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, gateway 7510gx notebook, home built desktop
[05:51] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  try a cd cleaning disc
[05:51] <bimberi> omirix: sorry, do you have write access where you want to compile
[05:51] <DavidLeeRoth> the drive works fine dude
[05:51] <Geoffrey2> so, if there are any updates to any of the programs in the Synaptic Package Manager that I have installed, the system will automatically inform me of the updates?
[05:51] <Ron_o> !gnome
[05:51] <w^x> but no acceleration
[05:51] <DavidLeeRoth> it works good enough to load breezy, and windows xp pro, and burn dvd's.....
[05:52] <coucho> jighead: that did not bring back the menubar
[05:52] <w^x> wait nevermind
[05:52] <omirix> bimberi: NVM, i got it, thansk anyways. I forgot to fully install gcc, i failed to check all the things in synaptic
[05:52] <KevinIN72> man it takes a long time to install gnome
[05:52] <Viaken> Anyone know what would cause X programs to not start after booting up after hibernate? I can drop to console, restart gdm, and it all works, but that's a bit annoying.
[05:52] <bimberi> omirix: phew, i was struggling :P
[05:52] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  those are my suggestions, I just thought that the cd drive might not be reading the cd, because its needs cleaning.  it happens
[05:52] <omirix> bimberi: lol
[05:52] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, I want to do a clean install from cd, meaning I don't want to go into breezy and upgrade. this is retarded!
[05:52] <jighead> coucho: right click on a blank area of the bottom panel and the add panel option should be there
[05:53] <omirix> bimberi: nvm it's still happening. any ideas? =\
[05:53] <coucho> yeah it is
[05:53] <ydnar> !restrictedformats
[05:53] <ubotu> somebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:53] <omirix> bimberi: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executable
[05:53] <tritium> omirix: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:54] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  I never suggested a breezy upgrade...
[05:54] <omirix> bimberi:
[05:54] <omirix> sh-3.1# gcc blah.c
[05:54] <omirix> blah.c: In function main:
[05:54] <omirix> blah.c:4: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function printf
[05:54] <omirix> sh-3.1# ./a.out
[05:54] <omirix> hi
[05:54] <omirix> oops
[05:54] <omirix> tritium: i did.
[05:54] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, i know. most people do. no one can seem to figure this crap out
[05:54] <omirix> it SEEMS fine when i do gcc filename.c
[05:54] <omirix> but when i compile wine it make san erorr
[05:54] <farous> omirix: don't flod the channel use the pastebin
[05:54] <ydnar> so to play dvds in VLC, i need only to install libdvdcss2?
[05:54] <bimberi> omirix: i'm not sure sorry :|
[05:55] <tritium> omirix: you included stdio.h?
[05:55] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  you have the install cd right, works in only on machine, not the other, right?
[05:55] <babo> So when I click on a skype:+telephone_number?call  link, a blank offline skype opens. It doesn't connect the call or login. It works perfectly with windows / firefox ...
[05:55] <omirix> tritium: it's not about that. it's about my wine compile. it says my gcc cant compile executables
[05:55] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  on=one
[05:55] <MTecknology> How do I set default video player?
[05:55] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, yes. it boots on the desktop. i click install in text mode.... it asks for my language and keyboard.  then it says scanning for hardware.  Then a big blue screen freezes.
[05:56] <farous> omirix: check which ver of gcc you need most programs need gcc3.4
[05:56] <jighead> omirix: sudo aptitude install build-essentials should get you everything you need to compile stuff
[05:56] <omirix> jighead:  i did
[05:56] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth but works in your laptop?
[05:56] <omirix> gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[05:56] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, yes.
[05:56] <omirix> how do i get a later version? =\
[05:56] <tritium> jighead: with no "s"
[05:56] <omirix> that installed with synaptic, farous
[05:56] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, I seriously do not want linux on my laptop. that is windows only.  i want linux on my desktop
[05:57] <roe> evening all
[05:57] <farous> omirix: you need an older ver. check the specific with the program you want to compile
[05:57] <omirix> farous: OH im retarded! its my symlink!
[05:57] <omirix> one sec
[05:57] <ic0ffeecup_> hi, have someone already packaged anjuta2 ?
[05:57] <cocox> troy_s, are u there?
[05:57] <Cornellius> Can't tell why, I really love Aptitude
[05:57] <phrowzen> hmm, no dapper updates in a few days now eh.. any idea why
[05:57] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  did you do a cd check when you booted the install cd from your desktop?
[05:57] <tritium> phrowzen: it was released
[05:58] <Viaken> When I resume after hibernating, I can't start any X applications unless I restart gdm. I click things, it says "starting such and such" and nothing happens. It isn't locked up because I can still work in open applications. Anyone have a guess what's wrong?
[05:58] <DavidLeeRoth> i tried, it freezes as well
[05:58] <phrowzen> tritium, true.. but meh, i still received like daily updates for breezy
[05:58] <tritium> phrowzen: only security fixes now
[05:58] <m0biu5> where do you suggest i put sources that I am going to compile? (specifically gnome colorscheme)
[05:58] <Viaken> Started when I upgraded from breezy to dapper...
[05:58] <Cornellius> phrowzen: give it time man
[05:58] <omirix> farous: i have GCC 4.0.3
[05:58] <coucho> jighead: thnx man
[05:58] <coucho> later
[05:58] <omirix> farous: idk what could be happening..
[05:58] <MTecknology> How do I set default video player?
[05:58] <phrowzen> tritium, and i just find it interesting how prior to dapper final, even a week before, there was *tons* of daily updates, i just find it strange how its just 'done' like that hehe, but no biggie im not complaining, everythings working :)
[05:58] <mnl88> is it worth going w/ the 64 bit version of ubuntu if you can?  (i have an athlon 3500+ w/ 32-bit dapper installed)
[05:58] <Cornellius> phrowzen: Only been 4 days since it was released. Breezy was out for a long time
[05:59] <bimberi> phrowzen: the devs are still catching up on sleep :)
[05:59] <farous> omirix: what program you are compiling
[05:59] <phrowzen> bimberi, haha, true
[05:59] <omirix> farous: wine
[05:59] <johnnyrusso> mnl88: not if u have an ati video card
[05:59] <phrowzen> Cornellius, yeah,.. i only ran ubuntu since breezy, im a newb to the process i guess ;)
[05:59] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, i tried, it freezes as well
[05:59] <Cornellius> Sleep ? WHut's that ?
[05:59] <farous> omirix: type ./configure --help will tell you which gcc you need to use
[05:59] <mnl88> johnnyrusso:  that answers my question, then  (i have ati...and i really don't like it...)
[05:59] <babo> mnl88: nope, it's not worth it if you use your machine for business or day-to-day critical tasks IMO
[05:59] <Cornellius> phrowzen: New to linux ? You choose the right distro :)
[06:00] <DJLC> I hate to have to come back and ask the same question - but I closed IRC before I could write it down. What's the Terminal command to run an application as root?
[06:00] <phrowzen> Cornellius, for workstation use yes. i have been using slackware for many years for a server -- i wouldnt say im terribly comfortable, but i can get my way aroud no problem
[06:00] <openbysource> how much packages drapper has
[06:00] <ic0ffeecup_> DJLC, sudo
[06:00] <jighead> omirix: if you add deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main to your /etc/apt/sources.list, you won't have to compile wine, you can grab the packages
[06:00] <omirix> farous: that does nothing
[06:00] <farous> omirix: i know that most programs need gcc-3.4 to work. quite rare that i see one compiling with gcc 4. so just install gcc-3.4
[06:00] <openbysource> is it having mplayer xmms, xine and other media packages
[06:00] <MTecknology> How do I set default video player?
[06:00] <tritium> jighead: wine is also in multiverse
[06:00] <omirix> jighead: tried it. that link is dead... thanks though
[06:00] <DJLC> ic0ffeecup_ no - there was (some command) (appname)
[06:00] <omirix> jighead: i had to get the sources
[06:01] <tritium> universe, rather
[06:01] <farous> omirix: than perhaps check on their website of linux requirements for compilation
[06:01] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  "try" cleaning your desktop drive, just to see if it makes a difference
[06:01] <ic0ffeecup_> DJLC, sudo application
[06:01] <hit1983> how to install tomcat ?
[06:01] <openbysource> drapper has dvd version ?
[06:01] <omirix> farous: im sure this meets the standards, its a 3 day fresh install of Ubuntu latest
[06:01] <omirix> farous: and everything is up to date
[06:01] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, it's also strange because my laptop has virtually the same specs as my desktop
[06:01] <buzzed> any solutions for slow startup... seems to take a minute or so to load metacity
[06:01] <DJLC> ic0ffeecup_ wasn't what they told me before - but I'll try it anyway. Thx.
[06:02] <farous> omirix: you knwo there are special repos for wine. check /msg ubotu easysource
[06:02] <MTecknology> How do I set default video player?
[06:02] <johnnyrusso> mnl88 np
[06:02] <openbysource> download link for drapper ?
[06:02] <DavidLeeRoth> i swear to god rredd4.... it's clean! I was installing crap with it yesterday! I find it strange that breezy boots, windows xp cd boots, music cd's work, dvd's burn flawlessly, but badger doesnt.
[06:02] <`Chip`> How can yo uload into single user mode with Ubuntu?
[06:02] <DavidLeeRoth> i wonder what the problem is rredd4
[06:02] <DavidLeeRoth> * i meant to say dapper rredd4
[06:03] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  maybe someone can help
[06:03] <roe> anyone know how I get css decryption
[06:03] <rmooney> is there no solution to flash plugin for ppc
[06:03] <richard> Unpacking replacement realplayer ...
[06:03] <richard> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of realplayer:
[06:03] <richard>  realplayer depends on libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1); however:
[06:03] <richard>   Package libstdc++5 is not installed.
[06:03] <richard> dpkg: error processing realplayer (--install):
[06:03] <richard>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:03] <farous> omirix: did you use this repos too deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt source/
[06:03] <omirix> farous: im very confused by it saying this though.. maybe i could talk to you better in PM, would that be OK?
[06:03] <richard> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:03] <saquib> HELP: Everytime I boot I have to have to start the "network-settings". There on the first settings page is a label "Default gateway device:". Everytime I havve to choose "eth0" as my default gateway device!! and Disable & then Enable the eth0. then I would get my internet connectivity. How can i fix this? its really bugging me to manualy switch on the eth0. :S
[06:03] <rt> window grow 5
[06:03] <rt> doh!
[06:03] <omirix> farous: yes, can we talk in pm
[06:03] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, everytime i come in here it's too busy and noone helps.  I appreciate your time  and suggestions.
[06:03] <farous> omirix:  no prob
[06:04] <rmooney> in case you missed it
[06:04] <rmooney> is there no solution to flash plugin for ppc
[06:04] <MTecknology> How do I set default video player?
[06:04] <alth> Damnit, I keep middleclicking in firefox to autoscroll (which it does) but occasionally it opens google or one of my bookmarks instead :(
[06:04] <richard> i get this message when i try to install real player: Unpacking replacement realplayer ...
[06:04] <richard> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of realplayer:
[06:04] <richard>  realplayer depends on libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1); however:
[06:04] <richard>   Package libstdc++5 is not installed.
[06:04] <richard> dpkg: error processing realplayer (--install):
[06:04] <richard>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:04] <richard> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:04] <Aven> hey
[06:04] <rmooney> alth you can turn that off
[06:04] <DavidLeeRoth> richard, use the pastebin! spare us!
[06:05] <MTecknology> richard, quit flooding
[06:05] <Aven> is there a way to convert .wmv files into .mpeg or something?
[06:05] <linux_user400354> xubuntu has BUGS!!!! http://www.geocities.com/good_bye300/xubuntu_error.png
[06:05] <rmooney> firefox has hidden settings
[06:05] <alth> rmooney: Yeah? In the About:Config page?
[06:05] <saquib> HELP: Everytime I boot I have to have to start the "network-settings". There on the first settings page is a label "Default gateway device:". Everytime I havve to choose "eth0" as my default gateway device!! and Disable & then Enable the eth0. then I would get my internet connectivity. How can i fix this? its really bugging me to manualy switch on the eth0. :S
[06:05] <MTecknology> How do I set default video player?
[06:06] <rmooney> think so forgot how to do it
[06:06] <kbrosnan> alth, you likely need to disable middle click paste type about:config in the address bar and filter on middle and find middlemouse.paste change to false
[06:06] <alth> Thanks kbrosnan  :)
[06:07] <rmooney> how do i set my default boot order
[06:07] <alth> Ok, fixed, thanks guys.
[06:07] <kbrosnan> alth, you also might want to set middlemouse.contentLoadURL to false too
[06:07] <MorbidHunger> dapper is sexy
[06:07] <Viaken> I <3 middlemouse.paste.
[06:07] <alth> rmooney: by editing your grub.list file.
[06:07] <rmooney> rt thanks
[06:07] <hangfire> I dont have any sound in my installation of ubuntu, anyone know what could be the problem, I have onboard sound
[06:07] <DavidLeeRoth> can anyone help me? dapper doesn't want to get past the hardware screen on my system! ANY help is appreciated greatly. I can also provide detailed system specs to help you help me :).
[06:07] <alth> kbrosnan:  right, thanks, done :)
[06:08] <alth> DLR, have you tried the server install?
[06:08] <GTroy> is this now the dapper channel yet?
[06:08] <tritium> yes, GTroy
[06:08] <alth> Yes GTroy .
[06:08] <monsterb> How do I update to dapper from CD ?
 you might want to purchase a better sound card, i have the same problem
[06:08] <GTroy> YESS!!!
[06:08] <GTroy> thanks guys
[06:08] <hangfire> Morbid-but I would think it would be easier for ubuntu to detect onboard sound than a sound card
[06:09] <nosklo> monsterb: just insert the cd, there should be a dialog asking if you want to add it
[06:09] <MTecknology> How do I set default video player?
[06:09] <bimberi> monsterb: you need the alternate CD, it should prompt you to update when you put it in
 thats what i thought too
[06:09] <GTroy> hangfire, I have a chaintech av710 and it works unbelievably good for audiophile music
[06:09] <clintonc> DavidLeeRoth: what part specifically does it hang on?
[06:09] <hangfire> ok, thx GTroy
[06:09] <GTroy> *nods&
[06:09] <GTroy> *
[06:09] <cocox> anybody knows how can i do for apply my iptables rules without rebooting???
[06:09] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, it hangs on the scanning hardware part. there is a blue screen that is frozen.
[06:10] <monsterb> bimberi: alt CD? ok thx
[06:10] <clintonc> this is an x86 system?
[06:10] <Cornellius> blue screen of death ??
[06:10] <nosklo> frozen blue screen? that reminds me of... oh. nevermind.
[06:10] <Cornellius> :P
[06:10] <Cornellius> nosklo: hahahah
[06:10] <Aven> is there a way to convert .wmv files into .mpeg or something?
[06:10] <DavidLeeRoth> yes, an amd 3700+ clintonc
[06:11] <bobstro> DavidLeeRoth:  is there an option when you boot the cd to use "safe" mode or such?
[06:11] <bobstro> DavidLeeRoth:  (sorry, can't check it now myself)
[06:11] <DavidLeeRoth> bobstro, there is gui, text, and OEM mode
[06:11] <clintonc> There's probably a failsafe kernel or something
[06:11] <Kr0ntab> w0rd
[06:11] <bobstro> DavidLeeRoth:  do you have any outboard stuff connected you could remove?
[06:11] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, i chose not to try amd64... i am install an i386 dapper on a amd 3700
[06:12] <DavidLeeRoth> bobstro, the only outboard stuff is my video card
[06:12] <bobstro> DavidLeeRoth:  i wound up using i386 on my 3500+, works fine there.
[06:12] <MTecknology> How do I set default video player?
[06:12] <clintonc> *puts on turban*
[06:12] <bobstro> DavidLeeRoth:  unusual bios settings perhaps?
[06:12] <clintonc> would that be an ATi?
[06:12] <cocox> anybody knows how can i do for apply my iptables rules without rebooting???
[06:12] <jighead> cocox: iptables -F will flush your firewall
[06:12] <DavidLeeRoth> bobstro, i have an amd 3700+ with 1 Gb ram. I have an x700 Pro video card and an Abit KN8SLI motherboard.
[06:12] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, yes.
[06:12] <roe> anyone know what repository has the libdvdcss2?
[06:12] <jighead> cocox: then you can apply your rules
[06:12] <gonz1> silly question: i u/g to dapper, from breezy, and all is, well, AMAZING ... but i would like to add a "lock screen" applet to my menubar, but i can't find it it and i know the default menubar had one, iirc. thoughts?
[06:13] <bobby> roe, see resticted formats in the ubuntu wiki
[06:13] <DavidLeeRoth> bobstro, i pretty much used the default bios settings.
[06:13] <bobstro> cocox:  are you using one of the firewall programs?
[06:13] <nosklo> gonzi, just drag from the menu
[06:13] <roe> thanx
[06:13] <bobstro> DavidLeeRoth:  any way of knowing what it hung on while scanning?
[06:13] <gonz1> i don't see it anywhere anymore.
[06:13] <nosklo> gonz1: on the system menu
[06:13] <DavidLeeRoth> bobstro, i have no idea. it does it in all modes.
[06:13] <nosklo> gonz1: the last item
[06:13] <gonz1> looking
[06:13] <nosklo> gonz1: you drag it
[06:13] <cocox> bobstro, just iptables
[06:14] <bobstro> cocox:  well, you need a script or something to save those settings.
[06:14] <cocox> jighead, thats nit true..... you must restart
[06:14] <clintonc> DavidLeeRoth, I don't quite know what to tell you...  Have you tried other linux distributions on this machine?
[06:14] <gonz1> well, it's not on my menus
[06:14] <gonz1> it == lockscreen
[06:14] <bobstro> DavidLeeRoth:  does a live dvd/cd work?
[06:14] <gonz1> i don't see it in the menubar add application panel(s) either
[06:14] <Geoffrey2> where can I find directions for setting up a wireless card with ndiswrapper?  the Instruction link on wiki.ubuntu goes to a blank page
[06:15] <cocox> bobstro, apply my iptables rules without rebooting???
[06:15] <jighead> cocox: iptables -F essentially stops your firewall
[06:15] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc and bobstro , I have. Debian, knoppix, ubuntu breezy.
[06:15] <cocox> jighead i know
[06:15] <bobstro> cocox:  jighead is telling you how to clear them. you can then enter them, BUT you need some way to preserve them.
[06:15] <DavidLeeRoth> bobstro and clintonc, breezy live and install works! WTF?!?
[06:15] <scabootssca> hey does dapper drake support winmodems better than breezy?
[06:15] <bobstro> cocox:  so you can either write a script yourself, or use one of the many firewall programs.
[06:15] <clintonc> DavidLeeRoth: are they using the 2.6.15 kernel?
[06:15] <bobstro> cocox:  are you doing anything particularly fancy?
[06:16] <jighead> cocox: once you flush them, just run your script that has all of your rules in it
[06:16] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, i only use breezy and it's latest everything.
[06:16] <cocox> jighead, bobstro, i just want to apply my iptables rules without rebooting
[06:16] <bobstro> cocox:  do you *have* a script?
[06:16] <cocox> yes
[06:16] <bobstro> cocox:  HOW did they get there?
[06:16] <bobstro> cocox:  if so, do what jighead told ya, then re-run your script
[06:16] <jighead> cocox: pastebin your script
[06:16] <cocox> i did iptables-restore xxx
[06:17] <bimberi> monsterb: still about? actually it's not quite as simple as i said sorry, check the "Upgrading from an Ubuntu 6.06 CD" section on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[06:17] <bobstro> cocox:  ah, then modify and save with iptables-save
[06:17] <cocox> -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[06:17] <cocox> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[06:17] <cocox> -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[06:17] <cocox> -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
[06:17] <cocox> -A INPUT -m limit --limit 5/min -j LOG --log-prefix "iptables denied: " --log-level 7
[06:17] <cocox> -A INPUT -j DROP
[06:17] <clintonc> DavidLeeRoth: This is when you're trying to boot the livecd, right?
[06:17] <bobstro> cocox:  though that's a bit ugly.
[06:17] <bobstro> cocox:  for that simple, use firestarter program.
[06:17] <cocox> jighead, bobstro, i just want to apply my iptables rules without rebooting
[06:17] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, this is when im trying to install the system
[06:18] <clintonc> right, but from the iso
[06:18] <cocox> there is no way just with some iptables script option ?
[06:18] <bobstro> cocox:  well, you want to save them first or not?
[06:18] <Burgundavia> answerguy: yes
[06:18] <jighead> cocox: when you run the iptables commands, they are applied, you don't have to reboot
[06:18] <clintonc> not using distupgrade or whatnot
[06:18] <cocox> bobstro, i already do thtat
[06:18] <linu> anyone having trouble opening skype links ?
[06:18] <cocox> jighead, they dont...
[06:18] <joh6nn> i preferred /mnt to /media; is there any way for me to switch my install to using /mnt?
[06:18] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, i used this: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[06:18] <MTecknology> I think it's time to delete my web site. Can somebody go to http://www.madnessmayhem.info and tell me what you think??
[06:19] <bobstro> cocox:  iptables-restore didn't do it?
[06:19] <jighead> cocox: what makes you say they don't go into effect immediately
[06:19] <redblades> Hi, has anyone here installed Xen on Ubuntu, 5.10
[06:19] <clintonc> did you do a checksum?
[06:19] <clintonc> to make sure the CD is good?
[06:19] <davidX_> if i'm using xubuntu and i've installed kubuntu-desktop how do i switch?
[06:19] <joh6nn> MTecknology: don't take this wrong way, but please die in a fire
[06:19] <TrendKi||> lol
[06:19] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, no. that's redundant! Utorrent does that for me
[06:19] <answerguy> Is there a (relatively easy) way to install Ubuntu into a chroot jail?  (Something like a debootstrap script?)
[06:19] <redblades> I*'m going to do it and I could do with all the help I can get
[06:20] <cocox> jighead, bobstro with my rules (the ones i pasted ...) i just can go through the internet , no chat, and now im using the irc
[06:20] <MTecknology> joh6nn, wtf, where does that come from??
[06:20] <grapegil> my ubuntu install is as slow as SHIT!
[06:20] <clintonc> ah, cool
[06:20] <joh6nn> MTecknology: don't spam the channel
[06:20] <grapegil> i think it's got something to do with this (hateful) gnome business.
[06:20] <clintonc> frankly, I'm stumped.
[06:20] <grapegil> it spent the last 30 minutes doing nothing but being slow until i killed X
[06:20] <joh6nn> davidX_: once you've installed the kubuntu desktop, you should be able to choose which one you want at login
[06:20] <bobstro> grapegil:  well, that's not normal.
[06:20] <clintonc> happens from time to time  ;)
[06:20] <davidX_> ok thanks
[06:20] <MTecknology> joh6nn, well, I ask questions about Ubuntu and don't get an answer... might as well ask something that gets attention
[06:20] <grapegil> no? i thought so.
[06:21] <MTecknology> How do I set default video player?
[06:21] <bobstro> MTecknology:  you were asking about explosives last night. trolling?
[06:21] <grapegil> what's the simplest way of flashing out gnome?
[06:21] <joh6nn> MTecknology: oh, i see.  that's a totally valid and mature response to the situation.
[06:21] <grapegil> i don't want it, i don't want it i don't WANT IT!
[06:21] <clintonc> DavidLeeRoth: You could hypothetically upgrade through distupgrade, but I wonder if your rebooting problems wouldn't persist
[06:21] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, should i try to get the desktop ubuntu instead of the alternate?
[06:21] <tritium> MTecknology: no, that's not appropriate here
[06:21] <poje> grapegil: really? My Dapper is quite snappy on a 500mhz box
[06:21] <grapegil> it's slow as fucking shit man!
[06:22] <clintonc> DavidLeeRoth, I wouldn't know...  I don't even know the difference  :x  But I doubt that the startup would be different, just the included packages
[06:22] <grapegil> i'm running X without a w/m now.
[06:22] <bobstro> grapegil:  this is a fresh install?
[06:22] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, my breezy is a little fucked up. i want to reinstall.
[06:22] <grapegil> yes.
[06:22] <MTecknology> I'm looking for some help on anything... Can somebody tell me how to set default video player?
[06:22] <clintonc> anyone else know about this?
[06:22] <answerguy> MTecknology You've asked how to set your default video player at least a half dozen times.  Having received no answer suggests that no one here has an answer
[06:22] <clintonc> lol
[06:22] <Viaken> grapegil, How much ram?
[06:22] <grapegil> and luckily this wonderful system comes without twm ...
[06:22] <grapegil> 128m
[06:22] <needhelp> hi all
[06:22] <clintonc> DavidLeeRoth, I know the feeling
[06:22] <answerguy> ... or that you've ticked off enough people here that those with the answer are ignoring you, perhaps?
[06:22] <grapegil> don't ask me to add more. kde under bsd does just fine.
[06:22] <tritium> grapegil: watch your language
[06:22] <needhelp> how to install .tar.gz files?
[06:22] <Viaken> I won't ask you to add more.
[06:23] <Burgundavia> MTecknology: if you do not get an answer here, try the forums or the mailing list
[06:23] <grapegil> tritium, :) i'm VERy happy with my language thank you very much.
[06:23] <clintonc> Does anyone else know if the only differences between desktop and alternate are the packages?
[06:23] <answerguy> needhelp What's in those tar.gz file?
[06:23] <poje> needhelp: tar -xvzf <filename>
[06:23] <cocox> anybody knows how can i do for apply my iptables rules without rebooting???
[06:23] <Burgundavia> clintonc: none
[06:23] <joh6nn> MTecknology: /usr/sbin/update-alternatives
[06:23] <bobstro> cocox:  did you *try* iptables-restore?
[06:23] <omirix> Can someone help me with installing wine on x64 Ubuntu Dapper? There are no binary repositories for x64, but when I go to compile the source, it's telling me my GCC cannot compile executables. Yes, i've installed the package to fix that, and I can go to console and type gcc blah.c and it will compile something, both as root and a user. I seriously need help, I'm considering reinstalling if this doesn't work. Thanks...
[06:23] <needhelp> poje: how to install it?
[06:23] <tritium> suit yourself, grapegil
[06:23] <Burgundavia> omirix: Wine does work on amd64
[06:23] <rredd4> DavidLeeRoth  I did a clean install of breezy and the upgraded to dapper, worked (I know, you don't want to....)
[06:23] <cocox> bobstro, yes..
[06:23] <bobstro> cocox:  and it didn't work?
[06:23] <joh6nn> MTecknology: if that doesn't get it done, then you need to hunt through the gnome settings, which i know nothing about
[06:23] <answerguy> cocox: you just run the iptables command with the appropriate arguments
[06:24] <Viaken> needhelp, "tar -xzf filename.tar.gz && cd filename && less README && ./configure && make && make install"
[06:24] <poje> needhelp: that will extract your files, after that it depends on what it is
[06:24] <answerguy> How are your rules stored now?
[06:24] <AngryElf> where is the hotplug directory in dapper?
[06:24] <Viaken> That may not work, but it's a good bet. :P
[06:24] <omirix> Burgundavia: it DOES? or does not?
[06:24] <Burgundavia> AngryElf: hotplug has been replaced by udev
[06:24] <DavidLeeRoth> rredd4, im going to try the desktop iso. if that doesnt work, ubuntu is not for me.
[06:24] <poje> Viaken: I would take out the less README, but yes
[06:24] <Burgundavia> omirix: Wine does not work on amd64
[06:24] <Pegger> where do I download the ubuntu version for the sun CoolThreads arch
[06:24] <poje> sudo make install
[06:24] <MTecknology> joh6nn, thanks
[06:24] <answerguy> (Usually it would be in a shell script, with each line preceded by the command: iptables
[06:24] <answerguy> )
[06:24] <clintonc> DavidLeeRoth: when I boot my desktop ISO, I have an option to start in safe graphics mode
[06:24] <needhelp> poje: how to install installer?
[06:24] <AngryElf> Burgundavia, so, if i've got fw files where do they go?
[06:24] <omirix> Burgundavia: wtf... can i install an x86 kernel?
[06:25] <needhelp> poje: how to install compiler?
[06:25] <Burgundavia> AngryElf: read up on udev rules
[06:25] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, i should get desktop.  alternate sucks, obviously
[06:25] <poje> needhelp: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:25] <clintonc> And, though I hate to mention it, a memory test may prove helpful...
[06:25] <MTecknology> How many people in here consider me a troll??
[06:25] <Burgundavia> omirix: multiarch stuff is a little weak in Ubuntu/Debian right now
[06:25] <tritium> MTecknology: don't ask questions like that, and you'll be less likely to be perceived as one
[06:26] <omirix> Burgundavia: well that's BS, time to switch to Gentoo. ;)
[06:26] <joh6nn> i preferred /mnt to /media; is there any way for me to switch my install to using /mnt?
[06:26] <tritium> omirix: what's the problem?
[06:26] <Cornellius> Which irc client do you use all ? I use X-Chat and irssi sometimes.
[06:26] <Burgundavia> omirix: it is being worked on
[06:26] <clintonc> DavidLeeRoth: If you use memtest as the kernel, it'll perform a memory test
[06:26] <MadMerC> MTecknology depends on a what u mean by teoll
[06:26] <Pegger> where do I download ubuntu for sparc?
[06:26] <Pip> what is Alternate install CD ?
[06:26] <omirix> tritium: i am not able to install Wine for x64. it doesnt work.
[06:26] <clintonc> Of course, nothing will come up probably  :)
[06:26] <MTecknology> tritium, ok, i was just curious how many ppl hate me in here
[06:26] <Pip> !ubuntu-server
[06:26] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Pip
[06:26] <tritium> omirix: you can try building it from source packages
[06:26] <bobstro> MTecknology:  asking about explosives, your web site and other off-topic stuff may qualify you. :)
[06:26] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, my memory is fine. i just installed breezy! i've tested it before
[06:26] <omirix> tritium:  trust me, tried everything.
[06:26] <clintonc> Or maybe there's a 'live-expert' boot method you can use.
[06:26] <tritium> MTecknology: please don't fan the fire
[06:26] <needhelp> poje: where can i find the guide how to install .tar.gz files?
[06:27] <rredd4> bobstro  iggy
[06:27] <poje> needhelp: www.google.com
[06:27] <MTecknology> tritium, where else can I go for ubuntu help?
[06:27] <roe> any idea why playing a dvd just hangs?
[06:27] <rredd4> bobstro  iggy him
[06:27] <DavidLeeRoth> clintonc, i'll try that when i get my new iso in 13 minutes
[06:27] <tritium> MTecknology: here, of course
[06:27] <Pip> what is Alternate install CD ?
[06:27] <clintonc> Good luck, DavidLeeRoth, wish I could help more...
[06:27] <DavidLeeRoth> Pip, it's the devil.
[06:27] <Xenophoebic> my installs never work.  old ubuntu wouldnt let me use my keyboard on my chaintech nforce 4 mobo.  dont even have a ps2 legacy support option.  and the new ubuntu has a couple errors when it is trying to set up and then just hangs up on a black screen...
[06:27] <needhelp> poje: how about ubuntu official guide?
[06:28] <Pip> DavidLeeRoth, what ?
[06:28] <joh6nn> Xenophoebic: where does it hang?
[06:28] <Pip> Davey|MbP, don't  understand
[06:28] <Tidus> well... i just installed xubuntu 6.06 and i must say that it's quite nice
[06:28] <jighead> omirix: it looks like wine is not ready for x86_64, you could try a 32-bit chroot to run it
[06:28] <RobNyc> !deb
[06:28] <Pip> DavidLeeRoth, don't understand
[06:28] <RobNyc> whats the name of the app that handles .debs?
[06:28] <poje> Tidus: heck yeah, Dapper is quite snappy
[06:28] <alth> Pip: I think he meant poje,
[06:28] <Tidus> RobNyc: dpkg
[06:28] <omirix> jighead: heh. how do i do that?
[06:28] <RobNyc> Tidus, no there's a gui in ubuntu
[06:29] <Tidus> RobNyc: synaptic
[06:29] <DavidLeeRoth> Pip, it won't even load on my sys. I recommend getting the desktop one. it is recommended by both the ubuntu website and Ms Havisham ;)
[06:29] <tritium> omirix: yes, jighead has a good idea.  Many are setting those up
[06:29] <MTecknology> tritium, where else can I go for ubuntu help that support occasional off topic questions?
[06:29] <Pip> alth, what is poje ?
[06:29] <Geoffrey2> ok, my Dell Inspiron 6000 comes with a Dell Wireless 1470 Dual Band WLAN Mini-PCI Card, made by Broadcom...according to wiki.ubuntu, it seems I need to use ndiswrapper to make that work...anyone know where I can get instructions on how to do that?
[06:29] <RobNyc> Tidus, no
[06:29] <RobNyc> i think its gdept or something
[06:29] <omirix> jighead: could you link me to a guide, or what commands do i use?
[06:29] <Xenophoebic> uh, after it has mounted and made CD user it goes to a black screen (for at least 10mins, the point i figured it was just not displaying any video...)
[06:29] <Tidus> RobNyc: it's synaptic... i just got done installing xubuntu on my laptop
[06:29] <Pip> DavidLeeRoth, Then shall I try a server install Cd ?
[06:29] <jighead> omirix: not tested, just googled: http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/Ubuntu_32bit_CHROOT_for_AMD64
[06:29] <gza> hi
[06:29] <jighead> omirix: should get you in the ballpark
[06:29] <DavidLeeRoth> pip, what's wrong with a desktop cd?
[06:29] <RobNyc> Tidus, im talking about ubuntu, it has a cool gui installer for .debs only (External .debs)
[06:30] <rredd4> MTecknology  #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:30] <RobNyc> not synaptic, not command line, not dpkg, its a front end to dpkg i believe
[06:30] <A-L-P-H-A> Is there a way to convert a NTFS drive, along with it's data, to a linux style partition?
[06:30] <Pip> DavidLeeRoth, Nothing ,I just want to have a try with a non-desktop CD ,need I ?
[06:30] <Tidus> hm... that i wouldn't exactly know
[06:30] <RobNyc> ubuntu = gnome, thats where i saw it
[06:30] <RobNyc> i dont think other than gnome has it
[06:30] <jighead> omirix: better link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[06:30] <DavidLeeRoth> pip, what's wrong with desktop? if you don't want desktop, try server
[06:30] <kholerabb1> IS an antivirus needed in ubuntu?
[06:30] <pussfeller> where dopes beagled start from
[06:31] <Pip> DavidLeeRoth, OK! I think the desktop cd is the best ,right ?
[06:31] <A-L-P-H-A> kholerabb1, no... as long as you're not installing random stuff with sudo
[06:31] <tritium> kholerabb1: if you're running an email server for windows clients, yes ;)
[06:31] <bimberi> Pip: the alternate cd has the text based installer, like the breezy "install" cd
[06:31] <DavidLeeRoth> pip, it's my only hope now.  i think it will be fine
[06:31] <RobNyc> Tidus,  In Dapper, you can just double-click a .deb file and Gdebi will take care of it - pretty slick.
[06:31] <Tidus> yay... now to get the stupid NOTworking working
[06:31] <omirix> jighead: thanks. it seems pretty indepth.
[06:31] <Pip> DavidLeeRoth, I see
[06:31] <Tidus> pcmcia-cs still has trouble detecting my laptop's pc card NIC
[06:32] <Pip> bimberi, why does Alternate install CD exist ?
[06:32] <kholerabb1> :) But just for looking at images, downloading videos etc. it wouldn't be needed?
[06:32] <cocox> W
[06:32] <joh6nn> Xenophoebic: double check to make sure your CD is good (like by testing it in another system, or comparing md5 sums).  if that's not it, i'd guess that there's a hardware problem somewhere
[06:32] <Tidus> it tries to load pcnet_cs when it's an axnet_cs card
[06:32] <bimberi> Pip: for the reasons described at http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[06:32] <Tidus> the pcnet_cs driver even tells me that
[06:33] <joh6nn> Xenophoebic: you could try a live CD, see if you get better results that way
[06:33] <Pip> bimberi, OK
[06:33] <Pip> DavidLeeRoth, Thank you
[06:33] <gza> /dev/dsp is always set at 660 and although I can chmod it changes back after reboot...regular users don't have sound otherwise.
[06:33] <Pip> bimberi, Thanks
[06:33] <bimberi> Pip: np :)
[06:34] <tritium> gza: add the users you want to have audio access to the audio group
[06:34] <Xenophoebic> i have a amd64 and i tried both versions 64 and 32 they both have the issue.  gonna go write down the two errors it shows before it even gets to the ubuntu loading screen
[06:34] <skippy> Hello Anusien, are you there?
[06:34] <Xenophoebic> cuz after it shows the loading progress screen it goes back to the listing of those two errors and then goes to a black screen eventually
[06:35] <tritium> gza: you don't need to be chmodding /dev/dsp
[06:35] <jighead> omirix: there is a linux32 package that wraps 32-bit binaries
[06:35] <gza> tritium: Ok that'll work. Why doesn't it do this by default, assuming this is a workstation machine
[06:35] <jighead> omirix: people use it for flash and java and such that aren't prime-time on 64, don't know if it'll do wine though
[06:35] <tritium> gza: the _first_ user gets added to that group.  Any additional users you add, _you_ set the permissions that _you_ want
[06:35] <AngryElf> does anyoen know how to get ivtv working with udev in dapper?
[06:36] <joh6nn> skippy: there is no Anusien, there is only Xul
[06:36] <kholerabb1> IS there any good language learning programs for ubuntu? Anyone know?
[06:36] <omirix> Where can I find the kernel source of 2.6.25 with apt-get? It just keeps apt-getting 2.4.27...
[06:36] <joh6nn> Xenophoebic: try the live CDs, then; they might give you a better idea of what exactly is going wrong
[06:36] <skippy> lol joh6nn my user list must be out of date then :D
[06:37] <gza> tritium: makes sense but for new users new to linux, sound is something they expect to work out of the box. Just my 2cents
[06:37] <joh6nn> omirix: apt-cache search
[06:37] <omirix> man x64 blows.
[06:37] <joh6nn> skippy: ; D
[06:37] <digikom> hello, does anyone know how to erase cdrw disks in dapper?
[06:37] <skippy> thats a shame i was helping him to sort a dual boot earlier, and i forgot to tell him somthing important lol
[06:37] <tritium> gza: I hear you
[06:37] <omirix> aha skippy
[06:37] <omirix> joh6nn: that doesn't do it..
[06:37] <bimberi> tritium: :)
[06:37] <tritium> hi bimberi :)
[06:37] <skippy> i told him to install grub using a live cd, but he needs to chroot into his hard disk installation first lol
[06:38] <joh6nn> omirix: doesn't do what?  it should show you a listing of available packages with the search term in the name
[06:38] <Pegger> where do I download ubuntu for sparc?
[06:38] <skippy> nevermind, i guess it wont actually do any damage
[06:38] <nzx> hey, how do i enable guest mode in xserver?
[06:38] <linu> what's the best way to install a binary that I've downloaded off the internet ... ?
[06:38] <omirix> joh6nn: it does, but only 2.4.27
[06:38] <skippy> linu, depends on what it is?
[06:38] <Fujitsu> linu, what program?
[06:38] <threeseas> tried using evolution mail today... has some nice features but touch anything and it starts a 20 min trip dling and not showing anything
[06:38] <linu> I downloaded tripwire but it doesn't come with installation instructions ...
[06:38] <joh6nn> omirix: have you updated your sources.list ?
[06:38] <bobstro> MTecknology:  answer is on the wiki
[06:38] <Fujitsu> linu, install the tripwire package.
[06:39] <linu> or the instructions it has seems to be for the src package ...
[06:39] <MTecknology> bobstro, whick answer??
[06:39] <tritium> linu: did you look in /usr/share/doc/tripwire ?
[06:39] <threeseas> so I tried thunderbird and wondered why thunderbird wasn't included in the drapper drake instead of evolution
[06:39] <bobstro> default media player one
[06:39] <MTecknology> which*
[06:39] <omirix> joh6nn: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, correct?
[06:39] <skippy> yeah linu, have you just tried "sudo apt-get tripwire"
[06:39] <bobstro> MTecknology:  default media player
[06:39] <linu> Fujitsu: I want to install tripwire myself ...
[06:39] <MTecknology> bobstro, already had it answered
[06:39] <jadaz87> tritium: do you know a way i can search through already installed packages through cli?
[06:39] <MTecknology> bobstro, ty though
[06:39] <bobstro> ah, missed that
[06:39] <linu> what's the best way to install binaries anyway ?
[06:39] <Fujitsu> linu, why?
[06:39] <Fujitsu> linu, the best way is to install the package!
[06:40] <linu> can I just move the tripwire binary to the /bin ?
[06:40] <tritium> linu: install ubuntu packages
[06:40] <bobstro> MTecknology:  so besides your unreachable web page and bombs, what was your other question?
[06:40] <tritium> jadaz87: dpkg -l
[06:40] <linu> Fujitsu: because I'd like to know ...
[06:40] <nzx> jadaz87, i use "dpkg -l | grep <package name>"
[06:40] <tritium> jadaz87: pipe that into grep
[06:40] <Fujitsu> linu, what motive do you have for not using the package?
[06:40] <giorgos> hi all, anyone using the latest ATI proprietary driver on Dapper?
[06:40] <jadaz87> tritium: thanks
[06:40] <MTecknology> bobstro, my page is up now, but i'm reformatting the drive in a few minutes
[06:40] <skippy> linu, binaries usually have their own install script provided with them
[06:40] <digikom> does anyone know how to erase a cdr?
[06:40] <de_ad2ME> you cant
[06:41] <skippy> linu, in your case though installing the binarie would be silly
[06:41] <bobstro> digikom:  several of the media programs do it
[06:41] <linu> Fujitsu: because I'll be loading it on to my server later, and my server is running a distro that doesn't have a tripwire package ...
[06:41] <giorgos> I was using the laster release candidate and everything seemed to work fine with fglrx until I dist-upgraded to 6.06 final and now all I see is a black screen...
[06:41] <joh6nn> omirix: well, apt--get updated will refresh your repo lists, and apt-get upgrade will install all the updateable packages.
[06:41] <de_ad2ME> im having trouble installing ubuntu, i load the cd and when it comes to the part where it loads the root filesystem it gives me a null exception handler error
[06:41] <bobstro> linu:  have you checked out aide?
[06:41] <joh6nn> omirix: but have you made sure that your sources.list is pointing at useful repos?
[06:41] <giorgos> anyone else seen this problem (in particular on a T60 with an X1300?)
[06:41] <MTecknology> tritium, can I ask you a private question?
[06:42] <nzx> giorgos, when you press crtl+alt+f1 do u get a terminal ?
[06:42] <yoli> hello
[06:42] <tritium> MTecknology: I'll be back in a bit.
[06:42] <giorgos> nzx: hi, no the keyboard doesn't respond
[06:42] <Tidus> quick question
[06:42] <giorgos> nzx: in fact i have to power off the machine by force
[06:42] <Tidus> what's the sed script to do simple find/replace throughout a file?
[06:42] <omirix> where should my kernel source be?
[06:43] <skippy> digikon, you could try "cdrecord -v -force blank=fast dev=0,0,0" at your own risk
[06:43] <nzx> giorgos, reboot your machine, and pass "vga=791 reboot=h" as kernel boot options
[06:43] <de_ad2ME> digikom left skippy
[06:43] <pussfeller> aint it /match/replace/g
[06:43] <JanneM> Tidus: sed "s/oldtext/newtext/g" file
[06:43] <skippy> ah kk :)
[06:43] <skippy> thx
[06:43] <de_ad2ME> im having trouble installing ubuntu, i load the cd and when it comes to the part where it loads the root filesystem it gives me a null exception handler error
[06:43] <giorgos> nzx: thanks, what is the effect of that?
[06:43] <Tidus> JanneM: thx
[06:44] <JanneM> Tidus: if you want to edit in place (dangerous) you can add the "-i" flag
[06:44] <arooni> i just downloaded wget, and i'm trying to get the handle of it... i have need to: 1) control where the output goes? 2) tell it to download one page, and all associated scr tags (stylesheets) & images? 3) send a cookie to the server upon every request for a file ( as it is the authentication system ) 4) be able to view all content locallY (so it would need to change the 'src' tags?
[06:44] <nzx> giorgos, vga=791 will setup the terminal to use 1024x768 res and reboot=h will solve ur power problem
[06:44] <giorgos> nzx: and what about the fglrx driver, is your solution related to that?
[06:44] <de_ad2ME> anyone feel like responding to my message?
[06:44] <Tidus> JanneM: i've made a copy of that file to test on
[06:44] <skippy> de_ad2ME,  try "noapic nolapic acpi=off" as advanced kernel parameters, i think you have to press F5 or F6 on the boot menu to add them - your using a live cd i take it?
[06:44] <nzx> giorgos, yep
[06:45] <giorgos> nzx, oh thanks!
[06:45] <de_ad2ME> yeah im using the livecd
[06:45] <linu> bobstro: cool, thanks ....
[06:45] <bobstro> arooni:  wget can do those, lots of options.
[06:45] <nzx> giorgos, i use xgl, and i had the same problem, untill i added vga=791
[06:45] <de_ad2ME> thanks skippy
[06:45] <JanneM> Question: how do I disable the password prompt after sleep?
[06:45] <skippy> yeah give those a try de_ad2ME , you should be able to get it so a little line of text with a cursor appears to let you type those magic words in :)
[06:45] <giorgos> nzx, that's kind of a surprising solution
[06:45] <bobstro> linu:  i went to aide a while back, it was easier to configure than tripwire.
[06:45] <patrick_> hi, i was wondering if anyone uses skype with ubuntu
[06:45] <nzx> giorgos, if u dont get a terminal on crtl+alt+f1 your terminals arnt setup properly and xgl,aigl wont work
[06:45] <patrick_> i'm having difficulty installing it
[06:46] <omirix> Where can I download the kernel source of the current kernel I am running?
[06:46] <giorgos> nzx, i'll be back to let you know if it worked for me
[06:46] <bobstro> nzx:  or you have a stupid logitech keyboard!
[06:46] <richard_> Device manager on 6.0.6 doesnt load - well it starts to but process doesnt finish
[06:46] <nzx> giorgos, i know!! it doesnt sound related at all, but thats what happened to me
[06:46] <skippy> omirix,  use synaptic, it will be named linux-source-'your kernel name' i believe
[06:46] <nzx> bobstro, i have a sony vaio laptop, no logitech keyboard in sight
[06:46] <omirix> skippy: it only shows 2.4.27
[06:46] <threeseas> HOW to erase a CDR...... set it out in the sun..... yes it can be done
[06:46] <omirix> skippy: where can i find updated ones?
[06:47] <skippy> omirix, do a "uname -r" in the terminal for me so i can see your kernel version
[06:47] <omirix> 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[06:47] <bobstro> nzx:  yes, but if ctl-alt-f1 doesn't give a term and someone *does*, they need the F-Mode key.
[06:47] <patrick_> skype? anyone?
[06:47] <ydnar> would anyone know why i wouldn't be able to play a DVD in VLC after following these instructions (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-38863fbbf26f3d29d557d0f754e7d83ce3220cda)
[06:48] <JanneM> patrick_: yes - but I just grabbed a binary from their website
[06:48] <ydnar> the only thing i can think of is maybe because i ran easyubuntu first
[06:48] <nzx> i'm trying to get vmware to fun in full screen, its throwing an error about guest mode in xserver, how do i enble it?
[06:48] <omirix> skippy: any ideas?
[06:48] <nzx> bobstro, fmode key ? is that the fn key ?
[06:48] <skippy> just getting you the right name now omirix
[06:49] <Tidus> ARGH!
[06:49] <omirix> skippy: ok thanks
[06:49] <bobstro> nzx:  an annoying "enhancement" on some of their wireless keyboards. Fn keys are re-mapped by default. really annoying.
[06:49] <Tidus> for some odd reason pcmciautils still hasn't gotten the card definition right for the Network Everywhere NC100
[06:49] <nzx> bobby, ah!! the function key thing!! i see, that used to annoy me alot when i had a logitech keyboard on a desktop
[06:49] <nzx> bobby, sorri i ment bobstro
[06:49] <patrick_> how'd you go about installing it JanneM
[06:50] <patrick_> i tried the deb package and it didnt work
[06:50] <gjm> can anyone help with a breezy-to-dapper upgrade problem?
[06:50] <patrick_> and when i tried the method that was on the wiki, it wouldnt let me edit the source.list file
[06:50] <JanneM> patrick_: I downloaded the generic binary from their site six months age, and used it ever since
[06:50] <skippy> omirix,  "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15" will do it, i know it doesnt have the 23 at the end but it will still work, its had the patches applied
[06:50] <JanneM> patrick_: I have never tried the "correct" method
[06:51] <omirix> skippy: E: Couldn't find package 2.6.15
[06:51] <patrick_> haha so just go about it normally?
[06:51] <omirix> skippy: NVM
[06:51] <omirix> got it!
[06:51] <JanneM> patrick_: I wanted the static build so I didn't have to install all of qt for just one app
[06:51] <omirix> thanks bro
[06:51] <patrick_> yeah
[06:51] <nzx> gjm, run "update-manager -d" from command line and there will be an option to upgrade to dapper, its the best way
[06:51] <patrick_> the .deb has so many depenedency issues
[06:51] <disinterested_pe> can anyone tell me why when i try to install realplayer 10 it gets to 96% installed and says it cant create a folder?
[06:52] <richard_> is there a tool for linux to determine DMA drive speed and DVD firmware properties
[06:52] <skippy> it should work omirix, im downloading it now :)
[06:52] <buzzed> how do i update metacity?
[06:52] <nzx> richard_, hdparm
[06:52] <patrick_> any idea why it wont let me edit sources.list?
[06:52] <patrick_> or do i even need to do that to install it
[06:52] <skippy> richard,  "hdparm /dev/hdc" should help you
[06:52] <omirix> skippy: yup!
[06:53] <patrick_> and why it says a tar.bz2 isnt supported by archive manager?
[06:53] <patrick_> ( ijust put ubuntu on my box from SuSE)
[06:53] <JanneM> disabling password prompt when waking up from sleep? Anyone?
[06:53] <skippy> omirix, i advise you to copy your existing kernel config in from the /boot directory, it will save you setting all the options from scratch
[06:53] <james_xxx> if anyone could help, it would be much appreciated... maybe the question does not belong here because i use kubuntu dapper w/KDE 3.5.3, but this question may not be related to the desktop environment. starting this afternoon, my accelerated 3D graphics quit working for what seems like no reason. if anyone has a suggestion , please let me know
[06:53] <Burgundavia> JanneM: power preferences, under pferences
[06:54] <JanneM> Burgundavia: nope
[06:54] <JanneM> Burgundavia: what option would that be?
[06:54] <richard_>  BLKROGET failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[06:54] <skippy> james_xxx,  how do you know its stopped working? have you done "glxgears -printfps"?
[06:55] <Burgundavia> JanneM: might have to dig into gconf
[06:55] <gjm> nzx, i already upgraded but have to use an older kernel to boot my system all the way....
[06:55] <james_xxx> skippy: i just know that accelerated 3D apps worked fine until this afternoon
[06:55] <JanneM> Burgundavia: so there is an option in gconf? Thanks!
[06:55] <Burgundavia> JanneM: should be
[06:55] <nzx> gjm, you can apt-get install a newer kernel
[06:55] <Burgundavia> JanneM: file a bug asking for a GUI preference
[06:56] <skippy> james_xxx,  what sort of graphics card do you have? have you checked xorg.conf to make sure the right driver is loaded?
[06:56] <gjm> nzx, thanks
[06:56] <richard_> I have drive issues
[06:56] <james_xxx> skippy: the gears work, but not well at all, the turn VERY slowly and haltingly
[06:56] <ydnar> could anyone help me to play DVDs in VLC?
[06:56] <nzx> gjm, "apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 | more" will show you a list
[06:56] <richard_> ydnar search google for easyUbuntu
[06:56] <james_xxx> skippy: i have an i810 (i think)
[06:57] <ydnar> i ran that first richard
[06:57] <ydnar> and then installed VLC
[06:57] <ydnar> and then followed the instructions for the restricted formats
[06:57] <james_xxx> skippy: how do i check what driver is loaded?
[06:57] <skippy> james_xxx, "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg-backup" to backup your xorg.conf
[06:57] <richard_> ah - i did it the other way round
[06:57] <ydnar> should i run easyubuntu again with just the dvd checkbox?
[06:58] <richard_> installed VLC frist
[06:58] <skippy> james_xxx,  then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select the intel i810 driver
[06:58] <richard_> i did anyway
[06:58] <JanneM> Burgundavia: found it - thanks.
[06:58] <Burgundavia> JanneM: cheers
[06:58] <richard_> hdparm doesnt like my hd's
[06:58] <ydnar> ok, i will run easyubuntu again
[06:58] <Tidus> yay! got the networking up on the laptop
[06:58] <nzx> ydnar, you need to enable libdvdread3
[06:59] <skippy> james_xxx, after editing xorg.conf you will have to reboot, if it goes wrong then use "sudo cp  /etc/X11/xorg-backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to restore your old config
[06:59] <richard_> libdvdread is installed with easyubuntu i think
[07:00] <richard_> if u choose to
[07:00] <richard_> Oh and i updated after
[07:00] <Geoffrey2> lesse here, I tried sodu apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r), after asking for a password, I was told Unable to lock the administration directory, is another process using it?
[07:00] <james_xxx> skippy: how much memory should i give to the card?
[07:00] <richard_> Help!
[07:00] <skippy> james_xxx, you can leave it blank
[07:01] <richard_> hdparm doesnt like my hd's
[07:01] <richard_> what do i do
[07:01] <ydnar> nzx, i did install libdvd -- i followed the directions from the RestrictedFormats site
[07:01] <skippy> just hit enter if you are confronted with things you dont know the answer to james_xxx
[07:01] <ydnar> right after i tried easyubuntu
[07:01] <nzx> ydnar, "sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh" should do it
[07:01] <richard_> yeah thats the one
[07:01] <ydnar> ok, i'll try once again
[07:01] <nzx> ydnar, oh then it should work, worked for me
[07:02] <richard_> u'll find the regular "movie player" works as well
[07:02] <gjm> nzx, i'm having trouble getting the new kernel...
[07:02] <nzx> gjm, whats the problem ?
[07:02] <franky123> hey, i have a laptop i've installed dapper on and everything works right and i have a dual boot. the problem is that battery life with windows is around 3 hours while with ubuntu its around 1 hour, and the laptop gets a lot hotter with ubuntu running. is there some better power management thing out there than the gnome one?
[07:02] <AVATAREZ> hello, i'm kind of new. i cant see some videos. i installed w32codecs, but the videos are veeeery high contrasterd
[07:03] <nzx> franky123, install powernowd, it will clock ur cpu according to what ur doing
[07:03] <gjm> nzx, it's not "unlocking" the administration directory... btw, i'm very new at linux... only been using it for about 2-3 months
[07:03] <richard_> did u install easyubuntu AVATAREZ
[07:03] <richard_> if not - do so
[07:03] <richard_> google it
[07:03] <nzx> gjm, you need to run apt-get as root, do sudo apt-get install ...
[07:04] <AVATAREZ> richard_: thanks, i'll try with it
[07:04] <gjm> nzx, i did that...
[07:04] <nzx> gjm, do you have synaptic open anywhere ?
[07:04] <gjm> nzx, yeah.... hold on... i'll try it again
[07:04] <arooni> is anyone here familair with the gpl?  basically i'd like to redistribute the compiled binary form of wget, (providing source if needed), and have my program execute wget with different, dynamic arguments known at runtime.  no legal advice sought here, but the gpl wouldn't apply to my software since there is no linking to wget's library dynamically right?
[07:04] <nzx> gjm, thats why, you can only have one install process at anytime
[07:05] <davidX_> hmm isn't there a way to make my resolution virtually bigger?
[07:05] <gjm> nzx, ok... it didn't work because it sees that i already have that kernel... but it won't boot correctly... evidently had issues after i upgraded from breezy to dapper.
[07:05] <jmg> hi2u all
[07:06] <jmg> how come i cant install flash from within firefox like i can on sid?
[07:06] <DShepherd> hello
[07:06] <DShepherd> jmg: ??? you should be able to
[07:06] <Alexi5> hello
[07:06] <DShepherd> hello
[07:06] <lwarimav> salut  tous
[07:06] <Alexi5> wgats the difference between ubuntu desktop and server
[07:07] <skippy> arooni,  i wouldnt have thought so, since wget wouldnt actually be incorporated into your code
[07:07] <nzx> gjm, kernel should boot, is it in your grub list?
[07:07] <jmg> DShepherd: downloads but wont install
[07:07] <jmg> :'(
[07:07] <gjm> nzx, yes it is... but it hangs up somewhere around the lvm mount i think... then the screens does this green/blue/red static-y type deal.
[07:08] <gjm> nzx, so to boot i have to use an older kernel
[07:08] <DShepherd> jmg: really?? hmmm there should be a package for flash for firefox.. (mozilla). I dont know why
[07:08] <nzx> jmg, try "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree && update-flashplugin" then reload firefox
[07:08] <nzx> gjm, is this a laptop ?
[07:08] <james_xxx> skippy: no luck... the graphics are as slow as ever
[07:09] <gjm> nzx, no
[07:09] <DShepherd> Alexi5: I think the server has no gui plus.. it has LAMP and other server stuff. The desktop is well you can guess what that is
[07:09] <james_xxx> skippy: i think i may just have to reinstall
[07:09] <skippy> james_xxx, thats odd, i cant imagine why it could have changed today
[07:09] <james_xxx> skippy: i also have no idea
[07:09] <nzx> gjm, try disabling lvm and reloading the kernel, use "bum" to disable it during boot
[07:10] <james_xxx> skippy: everything was great until some time this afternoon
[07:10] <gjm> nzx, ok. where do i do that?
[07:10] <skippy> james_xxx,  ask in here at a busier time, not as many hardcore ubuntu people on at this time
[07:10] <james_xxx> yea
[07:10] <nzx> gjm, system>admin>boot up manager
[07:10] <james_xxx> skippy: i appreciate the help very much. i need to go to bed anyways
[07:11] <skippy> james_xxx, it is really wierd though, i always find my linux system to be really static, nothing changes unless i tell it to :0
[07:11] <nzx> gjm, it might not be installed so you might need to do "apt-get install bum"
[07:11] <skippy> np james_xxx  i hope you get it sorted
[07:11] <patrick_> whats the terminal command to change permissions?
[07:11] <skippy> patrick_,  chmod
[07:11] <nzx> DShepherd, would you know how i can enable guest mode in xconf.org?
[07:11] <mjb> happy releaseddness dapper dans!  how do you truncate a file via command line again?
[07:11] <skippy> patrick_,  and chown to change the use its owned by
[07:11] <DavidLeeRoth> I figured out the problem!
[07:11] <patrick_> thanks skippy
[07:12] <jmg> nzx: thanks
[07:12] <skippy> np patrick_ , doing a "man chown" will give you some handy examples
[07:12] <nzx> jmg, no problem, your welcome
[07:12] <james_xxx> skippy: well it was weid, there were several things that changed. what i first noticed was that my monitor was not going into power saving mode.... when i went into settings, power saving was turned off..... i live alone, so no one could have messed with it
[07:12] <james_xxx> weird8
[07:12] <james_xxx> weird*
[07:12] <markgrif> I installed Dapper, and my wireless card seems to be working, but when I go to console I get a bunch of error messages.
[07:12] <richard_> help! - device manager doesnt load on 6.0.6
[07:12] <nzx> arrrg! i have to start getting ready for work
[07:13] <skippy> james_xxx, maybe theres a "ghost in the machine" :P
[07:13] <james_xxx> skippy: there is more like some bugs in KDE 3.5.3
[07:13] <james_xxx> or kubuntu
[07:13] <skippy> james_xxx, it is wierd though, maybe you should make a forum post before you go to bed - its hard though because KDE users are in a minority
[07:13] <poje> markgrif: if it's working, just close your eyes and don't look at the errors
[07:13] <patrick_> chmod: changing permissions of `sources.list': Operation not permitted
[07:13] <patrick_> ahhh!
[07:14] <patrick_> thats why im trying to change it hahah
[07:14] <skippy> patrick_, "sudo chmod" would do it
[07:14] <poje> patrick_: why are you trying to change the owner?
[07:14] <patrick_> ah okay :)
[07:14] <poje> I highly suggest trying to change permissions on sources
[07:14] <skippy> patrick_, only a superuser can chmod his files
[07:14] <markgrif> Poje I would but I like consoles.. the error message will go over whatever I am doing.
[07:14] <poje> You need to "sudo apt-get bklsdjfldjsffas"
[07:14] <Alexi5> which cd image is best to get if i am going to install ubuntu onto my system:Server install CD or the Desktop CD
[07:14] <patrick_> i'm not somehow i edited sources.list
[07:14] <patrick_> and now i cant again
[07:14] <markgrif> reading a man page even.
[07:14] <poje> patrick_: sudo.
[07:14] <james_xxx> skippy: i get the impression that people are having problems installing kubuntu from the dapper live CD , too.... i don't want to reinstall at all, but if that's what it takes, i guess i will
[07:14] <patrick_> so i need to to get add applications to work
[07:15] <poje> markgrif: crazy, perhaps google a way to suppress error messages from that source
[07:15] <patrick_> and other things
[07:15] <skippy> patrick_, "sudi gedut /etc/apt/sources.list" will let you edit it
[07:15] <patrick_> okay thanks poje
[07:15] <patrick_> it wont!
[07:15] <poje> patrick_: no problem :D
[07:15] <james_xxx> sudi?
[07:15] <skippy> sorry patrick_  "sudo gedit" i meant :)
[07:15] <patrick_> it wont save skippy
[07:15] <Bot_Builder> Alexi5: I'm guessing desktop
[07:15] <patrick_> i know haha :)
[07:15] <james_xxx> lol
[07:15] <poje> gedit for the winnnnnnnn!
[07:15] <patrick_> but it wont let me save when i do that
[07:15] <Bot_Builder> Alexi5: If you aren't setting up a server, you want desktop
[07:15] <poje> patrick_: when you sudo gedit?
[07:15] <skippy> james_xxx, maybe you should try gnome :) its treating me really well
[07:16] <james_xxx> i have been a KDE fan up until 3.5.3
[07:16] <poje> skippy: some people like having every checkbox in existence ;)
[07:16] <patrick_> yes
[07:16] <Geoffrey2> by default, what directory should .tar.gz files be saved to?
[07:16] <poje> This release of Gnome is freaking snappy though
[07:16] <james_xxx> poje: that is what i am like
[07:16] <skippy> patrick_,  ok type "ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list" and paste the line here
[07:16] <gza> hmmm...I guess the sound issue must be something else then I'm in the audio group.
[07:16] <linu> hmm ... can someone who has a bit of aide experience have a look at this for me pls ... ? http://pastebin.com/759123
[07:16] <patrick_> yeah -rw-r--r--  1 root root 2041 2006-06-03 21:03 sources.list
[07:16] <skippy> yeah james_xxx gnome is turbo speed at the moment, its so fast lol
[07:17] <skippy> patrick_,  exactly the same permissions as mine is set to
[07:17] <patrick_> yeah, i ahvent changed the permissions yet
[07:17] <james_xxx> KDE is very fast, too....... i have xubuntu on another machine and am impressed with it as well
[07:17] <skippy> you really should be able to edit it with "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:17] <james_xxx> ok good night all
[07:17] <billclinton> which opera distro install do i need for ubuntu 6.06
[07:17] <skippy> nn james_xxx
[07:17] <noonex> what is the command to show what kernel version you are using?
[07:17] <poje> Night james_xxx
[07:17] <patrick_> i know! thats why i'm all frazzled
[07:17] <poje> noonex: uname -a
[07:18] <patrick_> and do you know why archive manager can't do tar.bz2 files?
[07:18] <skippy> hehe james_xxx  name makes it look like we blowing him kisses as he goes:)
[07:18] <poje> patrick_: nope, but tar -xjvf <filename> should work
[07:18] <patrick_> i'll try sudo gedit one more time
[07:18] <patrick_> okay :)
[07:18] <patrick_> thanks poje
[07:18] <skippy> yeah i think untarring is the worst thing in linux, -xjvf really isnt noob friendly
[07:19] <skippy> it needs sorting out
[07:19] <omirix> hey, i just apt-get'd my linux kernel source, but where is it?
[07:19] <skippy> omirix. look in usr/src/ :)
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> skippy: No, but the Archive Manager thingy is.
[07:19] <omirix> thanks skipdog.
[07:19] <poje> skippy: yes, I fully understand that users are completely against remembering anything
[07:19] <skippy> yeah but i think the CLI should be more accesable to newbies
[07:19] <poje> I just was offering a solution
[07:19] <skippy> i think a -bz2 flag would help
[07:19] <gjm> nzx, also FYI, my audio isn't working since i upgraded to dapper... i don't know if that helps or not...
[07:19] <patrick_>  yeah
[07:20] <poje> skippy: once you get over the huge hump of understanding man pages it's not a problem
[07:20] <patrick_> when i sudo gedit /ect/apt/sources.list
[07:20] <patrick_>  it brings up a blank gedit doc named sources.list
[07:20] <Siriuskr> Hey when trying to install flashplayer from package manager i get error need gsfonts but cannot install ????
[07:20] <patrick_> and wont let me save
[07:20] <tourent> i was curious how to run a ".bin" file
[07:20] <nzx> gjm, is you audio card supported by alsa ?
[07:20] <skippy> poje,  oh dont misunderstand mate, i wasnt having a go at you- just saying that its a hard line for peeps to remember
[07:20] <poje> patrick_: try loading sources.list~
[07:20] <poje> And then saving over sources.list
[07:20] <gjm> nzx, soundblaster live
[07:20] <m5m_> anyone know how to safely store an ssh password for rsync to use for a cron job?
[07:20] <patrick_> loading?
[07:20] <Siriuskr> anyone else having lots of trouble with dapper ?
[07:20] <omirix> yes
[07:20] <omirix> it sucks
[07:20] <gjm> nzx, it worked fine in breezy
[07:20] <poje> patrick_: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list~
[07:20] <noonex> poje: thank you, i kept thinking it was rname -a :)
[07:20] <omirix> ;)
[07:21] <patrick_> ah okay :)
[07:21] <poje> noonex: no problem :)
[07:21] <poje> skippy: no no, I completely agree with you
[07:21] <DavidLeeRoth> lsb_release works too
[07:21] <patrick_> same thing!! oifdjsafsf
[07:21] <skippy> :)
[07:21] <nzx> gjm, it is supported, you have no sound at all ?
[07:21] <tourent> how do you run .bin files?
[07:21] <DavidLeeRoth> tourent, you need to make them executable
[07:21] <skippy> that is wierd patrick_, maybe its a bug with gedit, can you use "vi" patrick_ ?
[07:21] <ube> hey guys i just installed ubuntu :] 
[07:22] <DavidLeeRoth> chmod a+x xxx.bin
[07:22] <DavidLeeRoth> then run the bin
[07:22] <patrick_> vi?
[07:22] <gjm> nzx, no sound at all. it seems like my problem has been partially described by other people who have used that update manager to go from breezy to dapper
[07:22] <poje> patrick_: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:22] <mathew-ef> Does anybody know whether wireless WPA supports out of the box in 6.06?
[07:22] <m5m_> a .bin file can also be part of an .iso for cd burning
[07:22] <patrick_> ah pico
[07:22] <skippy> patrick_, vi is a text editor, comes with ubuntu - i have trouble with it though
[07:22] <poje> (I love vim, but pico has the keybindings always visible)
[07:22] <skippy> yeah pico is a better choice
[07:22] <ube> vim is awesome
[07:22] <B1zz> nano!
[07:22] <Tides> hello
[07:23] <m5m_> tourent: what .bin file are you talking about?
[07:23] <skippy> i find nano and emacs easy, but vi is a killer for me
[07:23] <poje> Vim is what God wrote the universe with
[07:23] <skippy> i still cant save in vi :(
[07:23] <nzx> gjm, i did a breezy to dapper, update with no probs, i must of been lucky
[07:23] <poje> Oh yeah, and nano
[07:23] <poje> nano/pico blur in my head
[07:23] <gjm> nzx, evidently
[07:23] <skippy> emacs i like
[07:23] <ube> dont you do :w
[07:23] <babo> can someone have a look at this aide config problem for me pls ... ? http://pastebin.com/759123
[07:23] <m5m_> skippy: esc :w saves
[07:23] <skippy> apparantly vi vs emacs is like a religious war lol
[07:23] <poje> Emacs is the tool of station
[07:23] <ube> press the esc button
[07:23] <Kr0ntab> mathew-ef, wpa is supported... but it's initiated differently than previous versions of the package
[07:23] <poje> ube: :wq
[07:24] <skippy> m5m_, cool ill remember that :) i should really just print out a cheat-sheet and learn it some time
[07:24] <nzx> gjm, try install alsa-oss package it might help
[07:24] <poje> Ummmm
[07:24] <poje> tool of SATAN
[07:24] <Tides> i was wondering if anyone could help me with a few (i'm assuming/hoping simple) problems im having with ubuntu? (im new to linux, so i am a bit clueless)
[07:24] <poje> Excuse my random typographical wanderings
[07:24] <gjm> nzx, i've got the bum open. i don't see anything about LVM
[07:24] <skippy> because one day ill be trying to get into a server through ssh and vi will be my only option :D
[07:24] <Emu_> hi all
[07:24] <poje> Tides: shoot
[07:24] <patrick_> I THINK THAT WORKD THANKS SKIPPY/POJE
[07:24] <ube> poje: yeah he just said right so i assume :w
[07:24] <satan> yes, poje? you summoned? lol
[07:24] <mathew-ef> Kr)ntab: can I know what is the difference in WPA in 6.06?
[07:24] <skippy> np patrick :)
[07:24] <m5m_> skippy: vim has an awesome tutorial file
[07:24] <patrick_> and does anyone use nicotine here?
[07:24] <poje> satan: yes, once again I have invoked your name
[07:24] <poje> ;o/
[07:24] <omirix> hey skippy
[07:24] <omirix> its telling me its not the same version
[07:24] <skippy> patrick_, nciontine as in the legal drug?
[07:24] <omirix> i have a 64 bit linux source
[07:24] <nzx> gjm, one sec
[07:25] <Tides> k, well, first off, im stuck at 1280x1024 for some reason, every time i try to change it to 1024x768, it just kicks me back to the login screen.. any ideas why?
[07:25] <patrick_> no
[07:25] <omirix> is linux-source-2.6.15 64 bit?
[07:25] <patrick_> haha
[07:25] <patrick_> its a soulseek client for linux
[07:25] <thewh00> Is there a way to add software to the ubuntu repositories
[07:25] <skippy> omiris, linux source is both 32bit and 64bit, you configure it yourself
[07:25] <Kr0ntab> mathew-ef, the dapper's wpa package integrates its configuration from within ifupdown's /etc/network/inerfaces config
[07:25] <omirix> skippy: ok ty
[07:25] <skippy> omirix, expalin the big picture of what you are doing to me please?
[07:25] <nzx> gjm, the descrition reads "manages multiple disk devices for fault tollerance"
[07:25] <poje> ube: touche ;)
[07:25] <poje> Man I am so happy with this new release of Gnome
[07:25] <skippy> i might be able to better advise you then
[07:26] <poje> 500mhz laptop feels very snappy
[07:26] <skippy> omirix, usually the first step is to sym link the linux source to /usr/src/linux
[07:26] <buzzed> is there a key command to switch desktops?
[07:26] <paul_> well I wasnt so happy setting up a printer but I finally got the damn thing to work.
[07:26] <mathew-ef> KrOntab: Do you know a link to find more details on this?
[07:26] <Kr0ntab> check /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes for more info.
[07:26] <gjm> nzx, ok, i've disabled it... i should do what now?
[07:26] <nzx> buzzed, crtl+alt+left or right arrow
[07:26] <skippy> m5m_, im checking out the tute file now :) thx
[07:26] <Kr0ntab> no nice links that I've been able to find
[07:26] <Kr0ntab> but...
[07:26] <nzx> gjm, reboot, and load the newer kernel, and good luck
[07:27] <Kr0ntab> did you have it working before?
[07:27] <poje> buzzed: terminals, workspaces, or what?
[07:27] <buzzed> cool
[07:27] <poje> nzx: covered workspace switching
[07:27] <lwarimav> I have a problem deleting some file that i save in mu ipod. there protected. I tried to change the permission but it won't... what will i do???,
[07:27] <poje> ctrl+alt+num switches terminals
[07:27] <gjm> nzx, ok. thanks for all your help so far
[07:27] <nzx> gjm, no problem, good luck
[07:27] <nzx> poje, cool
[07:28] <josys36> Who here has had good success with VMware?
[07:28] <poje> nzx: didn't mean to include that colon, silly irssi ;d
[07:28] <bimberi> lwarimav: sudo rm /path/to/file  ??
[07:28] <omirix> skippy:
[07:28] <omirix> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1) does not match your
[07:28] <omirix> running kernel (version 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic).
[07:28] <ydnar> after running easyubuntu and following the instructions on the RestrictedFormats page, are there any other suggestions you guys may have to get DVDs playing?
[07:28] <skippy> oh omirix, are you compiliing a module?
[07:29] <nzx> omirix, do "apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname-r`" that will fix it
[07:29] <omirix> skippy: VMware
[07:29] <lwarimav> bimberi: Is that removing those file???
[07:29] <skippy> ah omirix you should need the headers instaed then :)
[07:29] <bimberi> lwarimav: yes, 'rm' removes file(s)
[07:29] <omirix> skippy: lol, where is that?
[07:29] <paul_> Tell me something please. If I choose to upgrade to dapper should I get it through using the terminal or will update manager suffice?
[07:29] <nzx> omirix, see my msg
[07:29] <`Chip`> I just logged into DAPPER 6.06 on a fresh install and under SYSTEM, ADMINISTRATION... I am missing Synaptic and about 10 other options, how can i add them in. I tried the Alacarte Menu editor and all the items are checked but do not appear still for me. Please help
[07:29] <omirix> nzx i didnt get it.
[07:29] <lwarimav> bimberi: I try that....
[07:29] <omirix> nzx oh ok thanks
[07:30] <bimberi> ubotu tell paul_ about upgrade
[07:30] <omirix> nzx:
[07:30] <omirix> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1) does not match your
[07:30] <omirix> running kernel (version 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic).
[07:30] <ube> does anyone know what xfce is?
[07:30] <omirix> # apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[07:30] <omirix> Reading package lists... Done
[07:30] <omirix> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:30] <omirix> E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[07:30] <nzx> omirix, np, your welcome
[07:30] <tritium> omirix: please use pastebin
[07:30] <mathew-ef> KrOntab: Hello ..Do you know a link to find more details on this?
[07:30] <nzx> omirix, @.@
[07:30] <Flannel> ube: it's another window manager, like gnome or kde.  it's more minimal, less resources, than either of those.
[07:30] <skippy> ok omiriz download "linux-headers-2.6.15.23-amd64-generic" then
[07:30] <nzx> ube, its a window manager like kdm/gdm
[07:30] <patrick_> is there a way to reset ubuntu to a previous point
[07:30] <patrick_> like system restore?
[07:31] <skippy> omirix, headers are specifically configured, whereas source is unconfigured :) so the headers have a specific name
[07:31] <Flannel> nzx: no, kdm and gdm are the login screes, not the desktop environments.
[07:31] <Cornellius> Like a restore point ?
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> `Chip`: Let's start with the easy possibility: try 'killall gnome-panel' in a terminal and see if they show up when it refreshes.
[07:31] <ube> flannel: so it installs minimal apps as well?
[07:31] <omirix> skippy: it wasnt found
[07:31] <m5m_> I've found a tutorial for using rsync as a cron job, but I'm concerned about the security of this option: can anyone give me their opinion on using 'ssh-keygen -t rsa' with no password?
[07:31] <poje> patrick_: what, and admit that linux users make mistakes?
[07:31] <nzx> Flannel, your right, sorry
[07:31] <patrick_> yes corrnilious
[07:31] <omirix> skippy: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15.23-amd64-generic
[07:31] <patrick_> haha i make them all the time; thats why i'm here right now :)
[07:31] <Cornellius> poje: Well, I've used Mandrake once
[07:31] <`Chip`> will do
[07:31] <patrick_> cornellius* sorry
[07:31] <monsterb> What is a good rss feed reader?
[07:31] <`Chip`> brb
[07:31] <tritium> omirix: apt-cache search linux-headers.  This will show you the available headers packages
[07:31] <poje> Cornellius: bhahahahhahha touche
[07:31] <Cornellius> poje: Only mistake I did though :P
[07:31] <poje> So did I ;(
[07:31] <Flannel> ube: right, xubuntu-desktop will have some other applications instead of the ubuntu/kubuntu ones, I think it doesn't use OOo, for one.
[07:32] <nzx> ube, they are window managers like compiz/fluxbox
[07:32] <poje> Yes, Mandrake was like a padded room
[07:32] <ube> i was just reading about it on ubuntu's site
[07:32] <ube> it says its better for older computers
[07:32] <nzx> can i disable usplash from startup ? will it cause any problems ?
[07:32] <Cornellius> patrick_: I dunno, but it must exists
[07:32] <omirix> Thanks, tritium, that really helped. it works now
[07:32] <mathew-ef> can someone tell me where I can find the details for WPA in 6.06?
[07:32] <omirix> sorry for being such a newb tonight
[07:32] <omirix> =] 
[07:32] <Flannel> ube: you can get more information on the xubuntu site.
[07:32] <DavidLeeRoth> when i try to install ubuntu, it freezes when it says "mounting root file system". why?
[07:32] <tritium> omirix: no worries :)
[07:32] <ube> and im using a test machine running a pentium 2
[07:32] <poje> patrick_: what are you trying to roll bck?
[07:32] <patrick_> haha
[07:32] <tritium> ube: it's lighter weight, for sure
[07:32] <patrick_> now it says there isnt a source.list file
[07:32] <patrick_> :\
[07:33] <skippy> omirix, "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic"
[07:33] <Flannel> ube: it's designed to use less resources, so, older computers can use it and itll be faster than gnome, of course, newer computers will get performance benefits as well.
[07:33] <poje> ube: I'm running Dapper (with Gnome) on my 500mhz laptop
[07:33] <`Chip`> Hmmmmm
[07:33] <patrick_> so thats not good
[07:33] <poje> It also ran Breezy before two days ago
[07:33] <omirix> skippy:  i got it
[07:33] <ube> poje: im running the same
[07:33] <`Chip`> I am not in the sudoer file... how do I add myself to the sudoer file
[07:33] <ube> flannel: thanks
[07:33] <poje> ube: Dapper is snappy snappy for me :D
[07:33] <patrick_> and i just want to restart from scratch but not have to reinstall
[07:33] <sunnuntaivaihe> anyone know a good c/c++ environment for dapper
[07:33] <patrick_> but i might as well eh?
[07:33] <anfangs> can anyone recommend a good ftp server for ubuntu with a GUI?
[07:33] <poje> My only "problem" is not having a shitton of tabs open in FF
[07:33] <Nightangel> Hi?
[07:33] <poje> 128Mb of RAM goes quickly
[07:33] <skippy> hey i just realised something, apt-get now has tab key completion of packages - is it a new thing?
[07:34] <cafg10_> sunnuntaivahe testa anjuta
[07:34] <Geoffrey2> what's a good irc package for ubuntu?
[07:34] <sunnuntaivaihe> anfangs: proftpd with gproftpd
[07:34] <poje> patrick_: pull a sources.list off the wiki
[07:34] <poje> I'm sure there is one up there
[07:34] <nzx> Geoffrey2, i use xchat
[07:34] <skippy> xchat is good in a gui Geoffrey2
[07:34] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: xchat-gnome is in main, xchat is in universe
[07:34] <anfangs> sunnuntaivaihe: thanks, ill check them out
[07:34] <chavo> skippy, no bash_completion has been there a while, just not on by default
[07:34] <poje> Geoffrey2: NO YOU MuST USE IRSSI THE ONLY IRC PROGRAM YOU'LL EVER NEED
[07:34] <Kr0ntab> mathew-ef, did ya get my msg?
[07:34] <poje> ...
[07:35] <anfangs> isn't Konversation better than xchat?
[07:35] <Flannel> poje: don't yell, and... no need for zealotry.
[07:35] <chavo> it will tab complete for a lot of stuff
[07:35] <poje> Flannel: I was joking ;(
[07:35] <sunnuntaivaihe> anfangs: just do a search on ubuntuforums, something will come up
[07:35] <patrick_> okay ill try that poje
[07:35] <nzx> ok!! off to work, sucks!!
[07:35] <chavo> anfangs, It's really a matter of taste
[07:35] <patrick_> and also the update manager closes whenever i open it, any idea why?
[07:35] <poje> patrick_: xchat is nice, it just seems to rub me the wrong way
[07:35] <sunnuntaivaihe> anfangs: isnt konversation for kde?
[07:35] <skippy> patrick_, theres by sources.list if your interested - its totally clean
[07:35] <DavidLeeRoth> does anyone know why ubuntu freezes when it says "mounting root file system"?
[07:35] <skippy> patrick_, oops linkage http://pastebin.com/759139
[07:36] <poje> patrick_: irssi is terminal-based, so if you're not comfortable with a CLI I suggest xchat
[07:36] <tritium> DavidLeeRoth: you'd have to give us more info, as it doesn't happen in general
[07:36] <chavo> DavidLeeRoth, could be a lot of things
[07:36] <anfangs> sunnuntaivaihe: yes, but you can use it with gnome, just have to install some kde support
[07:36] <mathew-ef> KrOntab: No I did not get your mesg. Pls post it again.
[07:36] <belkrem> i am need to install libc6-2.3.6-7 but apt doesn't seem to have it
[07:36] <qalimas> Hey guys, can anyone help me with remastering the Dapper cd?
[07:36] <skippy> DavidLeeRoth, i assume you tired "noapic nolapic acpi=off"?
[07:36] <DavidLeeRoth> tritium, chavo, what extra info do you need?
[07:36] <DavidLeeRoth> No i didnt skippy
[07:36] <skippy> DavidLeeRoth, are you booting a live CD?
[07:36] <patrick_> ah tahnks
[07:36] <sunnuntaivaihe> anyone know a good c/c++ environment for dapper
[07:36] <patrick_> i wasnt asking about irc clients haha someone else was poje!
[07:37] <DavidLeeRoth> skippy, i am booting the live install cd to install ubuntu
[07:37] <poje> Sorry patrick_ !
[07:37] <patrick_> dont be!
[07:37] <chavo> sunnuntaivaihe, the only one I know of is kdevelop it's more kde centered but it's really nice
[07:37] <poje> ;d
[07:37] <patrick_> thanks skippy for the linkage :)
[07:37] <nzx> sunnuntaivaihe, try anjuta
[07:37] <cafg10_> sunnuntaivaihe test anjuta it is nice
[07:37] <Syndicat3> I need help
[07:37] <skippy> DavidLeeRoth, if you are then press either F5 or F6 for the advanced options, it will give you a line of text with a cursor at the end, just type "noapic nolapic acpi=off" and press enter, see if it helps
[07:37] <Syndicat3> ooooo boy.
[07:37] <Kr0ntab> mathew-ef, meet me in #Kr0ntab.
[07:37] <patrick_> ah but i'm running badgerr
[07:37] <Syndicat3> 86% into kubuntu...it freezes
[07:38] <Syndicat3> oh golly gosh
[07:38] <Syndicat3> what do I do!
[07:38] <DavidLeeRoth> ok i'll go try
[07:38] <skippy> DavidLeeRoth, sometimes it can work wonders
[07:38] <Syndicat3> i have an ibook g4
[07:38] <ralphie> how would I upgrade firefox to the current version? the "check for updates" is greyed out
[07:38] <poje> patrick_: gasp!
[07:38] <patrick_> i know!
[07:38] <skippy> Syndicat3, is it totally locked up, or has just the install frozen?
[07:38] <tourent> how do you look  up your ip address in the terminal?
[07:38] <kbrosnan> ralphie, sudo firefox
[07:38] <tritium> tourent: ifconfig
[07:38] <Syndicat3> totally locked up
[07:38] <patrick_> ifconfig
[07:38] <tourent> thanks
[07:38] <Syndicat3> i have to hold the power button down
[07:38] <Syndicat3> but it says.... kubuntu is installed.. or whatever
[07:38] <Flannel> kbrosnan, ralphie, gksudo not sudo.
[07:38] <anfangs> does ubuntu block the ftp port by default...
[07:39] <anfangs> if i want to serve
[07:39] <skippy> hmm, there have been rather a lot of troubles with the graphical installer reported
[07:39] <Flannel> anfangs: ubuntu has nothing listening by default.  if you install a server, then it listens.
[07:39] <nzx> Syndicat3, pass "reboot=h" as a boot option
[07:39] <skippy> im coming to the conclusion that its cra.... not very good
[07:39] <Syndicat3> ok
[07:39] <belkrem> does anyone know of how i can get libc6-2.3.6-7
[07:39] <Syndicat3> i a1 sec
[07:39] <anfangs> Flannel: ok, so proftpd will open the port for itself?
[07:39] <skippy> belkrem, have you searched synaptic for it?
[07:39] <sunnuntaivaihe> belkrem did you try apt-get
[07:39] <Syndicat3> any other suggestions
[07:39] <Syndicat3> like...should that fix it?
[07:39] <belkrem> i tried apt-get
[07:40] <Syndicat3> it goes to 86% after a long installation...and says that it is installed... and totally locks up...
[07:40] <ralphie> Flannel: no dice, option is greyed out
[07:40] <Syndicat3> so should i try reinstalling with "reboot=h" as a boot option
[07:40] <Flannel> ralphie: after sudoing into it?  it shouldn't be.  maybe it's changed in dapper, I dont know.
[07:40] <skippy> Syndicat3,  i know its not what you want to here, but you might be better off downloading the "alternative" install CD if you have decent bandwidth
[07:40] <skippy> hear*
[07:40] <gjm> nzx, hey i'm back. new problem: now i don't get the static-y screen. after linux loads everything and switches to gnome, i get a cursor then a black screen.
[07:40] <ralphie> Flannel: thanks, I will keep trying
[07:40] <Syndicat3> hmm
[07:41] <sunnuntaivaihe> anfangs: www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611
[07:41] <nzx> gjm, using new kernel ? cool
[07:41] <cafg10_> some one knows about a mail server package on ubuntu
[07:41] <jadams> I don't know what I just did...I was moving this crap music out of the music directory (into a temp dir called 'g') and instead of typing 'mv George\ Strait g' I typed 'mv George\ Strait *'...where did all of my files go now?  :-\
[07:41] <Syndicat3> notice skippy, okay, but is there a problem with the alternate one?
[07:41] <Syndicat3> oops
[07:41] <james_xxx> skippy: you still here?
[07:41] <gjm> nzx, yeah. i'm back to 2.6.12-10-386
[07:41] <nzx> gjm, no console when you do crtl+alt+f1 ?
[07:42] <jadams> ahh, found it
[07:42] <gjm> nzx, no, nothing... system unresponsive
[07:42] <nzx> gjm, dapper has 2.6.15-23 :)
[07:42] <skippy> Syndicat3, the alternative isnt foolproof, but the live cd method has been causing a lot of issues the last few days
[07:42] <nzx> gjm, also add vga=791 as a boot option and reboot, that should fix ur console
[07:42] <jadams> I'm dumb...to the last listed directory (which was the last in the directory's listing)
[07:42] <skippy> james_xxx, yes i am :)
[07:42] <Syndicat3> hmm really
[07:42] <Syndicat3> ok
[07:42] <gjm> nzx, i do too... but that's the kernel that won't complete a sucessful boot
[07:42] <james_xxx> skippy: ok my video chip is an 82865G, if that makes any difference....
[07:42] <Syndicat3> hmm
[07:42] <Syndicat3> i hope it isn't too hard to install, i am a linux newbie
[07:42] <Syndicat3> i will try downloading it
[07:43] <Syndicat3> one more quick question... no airport extreme drivers for linux??!
[07:43] <Syndicat3> i heard about that...sucks..
[07:43] <cafg10_> some one knows about a mail server package on ubuntu?
[07:43] <tritium> Syndicat3: there are in dapper
[07:43] <gjm> nzx, where do i add that??
[07:43] <ube> Syndicat3: ubuntu was extremely easy for me
[07:43] <nzx> gjm, you will get it running eventually :)
[07:43] <Syndicat3> hm?
[07:43] <anfangs> sunnuntaivaihe:  ok, checking that link out..
[07:43] <Syndicat3> sorry i need to pm you
[07:43] <sunnuntaivaihe> Syndicat3: there definitely should be, i know that i got it to work on the live cd
[07:43] <nzx> gjm, you need to pass add it to grub boot menu
[07:43] <james_xxx> skippy: i don't think an 82865G is the same as i810
[07:43] <Syndicat3> ok
[07:43] <Syndicat3> i will try it out now
[07:43] <Syndicat3> but i will also leave osx on my computer
[07:44] <skippy> james_xxx, the i810 is a generic driver, it works wiht a whole range of cards
[07:44] <sunnuntaivaihe> osx is a great os
[07:44] <james_xxx> skippy: i see
[07:44] <gjm> nzx, ok... i'll try it again
[07:44] <poje> Okay, so I had upgraded FF to 1.5.0.4, right? well now every time I don't use it for a bit it does the crazy update check thing and whatnot - wtf?
[07:44] <Syndicat3> yeah
[07:44] <nzx> gjm, test it out before u save it permanently, when the grub menu displays, select the kernel you want to load, and press 'e' and add the options to kernel line
[07:44] <james_xxx> skippy: i am not sure the driver is my issue anyways
[07:44] <nzx> gjm, i'm off to work, good luck buddy
[07:44] <gjm> nzx, mmkay
[07:44] <gjm> nzx, thanks. i appreciate it
[07:44] <skippy> james_xxx, no im not, since it would appear the driver hasnt changed
[07:45] <nzx> gjm, no, hope you get it runing
[07:45] <james_xxx> skippy:  would it be worthwhile downloading the linux driver from the intel website?
[07:45] <sunnuntaivaihe> ouch off to work, i havent even gone to bed yet
[07:45] <gjm> nzx, same here
[07:45] <skippy> im looking at hte intel site now, but im pretty sure i810 is the best you can do james_xxx
[07:45] <smacky_wolf_> Hrm, I'm trying to create a 32bit chroot envirnonment with the su_chroot script on the forums, but evrytime it gets to extracting libgcc1, it ends to the commandline withouit any errors.
[07:45] <james_xxx> skippy: intel does list a linux driver for this card
[07:46] <Syndicat3> ohhhh mannnnnnn
[07:46] <`Chip`> K tried refreshing the gnome panel but items are still missing from System/Administration
[07:46] <Hmmmm> guys i have a ProSavage8 KM266/KL266 video card. i cant seem to get a high resolution going. i think im stuck at 800x600
[07:46] <kapputu> any networking guys here?
[07:46] <`Chip`> can't get Synaptic and other to show in the list even though they are selected in Alacarte
[07:46] <AJ_Riddle> Hey, how hard is it to set up a server with ubuntu from an almost complete linux noobs point of view?
[07:46] <tritium> `Chip`: did you reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[07:46] <Syndicat3> so this "reboot=h" should make it not crash at 86%????????????????///////
[07:46] <Flannel> AJ_Riddle: which sort of server?
[07:46] <`Chip`> no I will try that now
[07:46] <kapputu> I need to know if it's possible to disable VPN connections from a linux machine
[07:46] <sunnuntaivaihe> Syndicat3: if you're worried about it crashing then i wouldnt try it now
[07:46] <Syndicat3> lol
[07:46] <AJ_Riddle> Flannel: HTTP
[07:47] <Syndicat3> ok
[07:47] <troy_s> aj_riddle:  very easy.  but you should probably at least start with www.openbsd.org so you don't make bad mistakes out of the gate.
[07:47] <Flannel> troy_s: huh?
[07:47] <Kane666> hey
[07:47] <skippy> james_xxx,  its worth a try i suppose :)
[07:47] <troy_s> kapputu:  of course.
[07:47] <omirix> skippy: this is still not working, it doesnt match my kernel.
[07:47] <Flannel> AJ_Riddle: you want this on it's own machine? or on your normal desktop box?
[07:47] <cafg10_> some one knows about a mail server package on ubuntu?
[07:47] <kapputu> troy_s: why would someone want to do that?
[07:47] <skippy> james_xxx, http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support/9722/eng/Intel-3.4.3006-20051209.i386.tar.gz&agr=N&ProductID=1044&DwnldId=9722&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng
[07:47] <troy_s> flannel:  linux isn't the most secure starting point for a web server.
[07:47] <AJ_Riddle> Flannel: I want to run it on my out of date old PC
[07:47] <skippy> omirix,  what is the message now?
[07:47] <Flannel> AJ_Riddle: you can download the "server
[07:47] <james_xxx> skippy: well thanks again lol. i honestly don't think this will get resolved unless i do a complete re-install
[07:47] <Kane666> QUESTION: how do i access my windows shares on ubuntu, i have samba installed (i dont know how to configure it) in Places > Network Servers i get prompted for passwords that i dont know
[07:47] <james_xxx> ugh
[07:47] <tritium> troy_s: sure it is
[07:47] <Flannel> AJ_Riddle: you can download the "server ISO" and it's got a LAMP install option
[07:47] <james_xxx> good night again!
[07:48] <hengest> Hmmmm, you need to edit your xorg.conf file
[07:48] <troy_s> tritium:  um no.
[07:48] <skippy> nn james_xxx
[07:48] <sunnuntaivaihe> caf10_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40047
[07:48] <Flannel> AJ_Riddle: it'll set it all up for you while installing ubuntu.
[07:48] <omirix> skippy:
[07:48] <omirix> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1) does not match your
[07:48] <omirix> running kernel (version 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic).  Even if the module were to
[07:48] <omirix> compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[07:48] <Flannel> AJ_Riddle: if you want to install the server after the fact, there's a howto here:
[07:48] <Flannel> !tell AJ_Riddle about LAMP
[07:48] <AJ_Riddle> Flannel: I think I installed all the LAMP components through Synaptic
[07:48] <tritium> omirix: you were unable to install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[07:48] <AJ_Riddle> Flannel: And I know things about servers, I just dont know how to get one running
[07:48] <Flannel> AJ_Riddle: read that page then, it'll go over all the (very little) config, and you'll be able to see if you've missed anything.  It's really super easy.
[07:49] <Hmmmm> hengest: what do i enter in it?
[07:49] <skippy> omirix,  ok, but those arnt the headers you installed
[07:49] <skippy> omirix, did you upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[07:49] <troy_s> aj_riddle:  if you aren't up on security issues, please at least do some learning before you put a webserver up.
[07:49] <Flannel> AJ_Riddle: but yeah, the new dapper server ISOs have LAMP server installs on them as an option.
[07:49] <AJ_Riddle> !tell AJ_Riddle about LAMP
[07:49] <troy_s> aj_riddle:  your insecurity is everyone's insecurity.
[07:49] <omirix> skippy: nah
[07:49] <omirix> skippy: its just dapper
[07:49] <Kane666> QUESTION: how do i access my windows shares on ubuntu, i have samba installed (i dont know how to configure it) in Places > Network Servers i get prompted for passwords that i dont know
[07:49] <DavidLeeRoth> noapic nolapic acpi=off didn't work
[07:50] <Flannel> !tell Kane666 about samba
[07:50] <troy_s> kane666:  use ssh
[07:50] <Flannel> Kane666: that'll tell about the config stuffs.
[07:50] <omirix> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1) does not match your
[07:50] <omirix> running kernel (version 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic).  Even if the module were to
[07:50] <omirix> compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[07:50] <troy_s> kane666:  more secure and easier to setup than samba.
[07:50] <omirix> :/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23/include
[07:50] <skippy> omirix, i just cant understand where it is getting 2.6.15.7 as a version for kernel headers form, you shouldnt have ever had those on your system
[07:50] <Flannel> troy_s: ssh isn't a viable option for everyone.
[07:50] <omirix> skippy: idk
[07:50] <hengest> hmmm, go ot the screen section, and under the 24 bit one, add in the resolution you want (eg. 1280x1024). make sure it's in the same sort of formatting
[07:50] <`Chip`> tritium...still no go
[07:50] <troy_s> flannel:  its opensource and yes it is.
[07:50] <AJ_Riddle> troy_s: is security that big of a deal with ubuntu server when only around 150 unique visitors a day...?
[07:50] <troy_s> flannel:  you simply install sshd.
[07:50] <troy_s> aj_riddle:  yes.
[07:51] <avis> AJ_Riddle, always
[07:51] <nzx> i dont have to go to yet!!
[07:51] <skippy> omirix, type "ls /usr/src/" and give us the output
[07:51] <`Chip`> Users and Groups is missing in the list to
[07:51] <troy_s> aj_riddle:  if you don't believe me, packet filter all of the incoming packets.
[07:51] <Flannel> troy_s: it's NOT a viable option for certain filesharing applications.
[07:51] <AJ_Riddle> What would be insecure
[07:51] <troy_s> aj_riddle: it might shock you.
[07:51] <omirix> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/KoUrnr12.html
[07:51] <troy_s> flannel:  ssh is uniform filesharing.  period.
[07:51] <DavidLeeRoth> skippy, those boot options didnt work
[07:51] <troy_s> flannel:  more secure and far superior.
[07:52] <Flannel> troy_s: it WONT WORK for everyone's means of filesharing.
[07:52] <omirix> skippy: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/KoUrnr12.html
[07:52] <Geoffrey2> hmm...what are Backports?
[07:52] <AJ_Riddle> troy_s: wouldnt my router protect me?
[07:52] <troy_s> aj_riddle:  no.
[07:52] <cafg10_> Geoffrey2
[07:52] <troy_s> flannel:  i think you are ill informed.
[07:52] <AJ_Riddle> troy_s: so what would?
[07:52] <DavidLeeRoth> skippy, it works on my laptop and in vmware.
[07:52] <cafg10_> Geoffrey2 backports are some upgraded packages
[07:53] <nzx> Geoffrey2, programs from the testing release compiled for stable
[07:53] <DavidLeeRoth> skippy, why wouldn't it work on my desktop?
[07:53] <skippy> DavidLeeRoth, im not sure then to be honest, its either a damaged installation medium or incompatible hardware
[07:53] <troy_s> aj_riddle: knowledge first and foremost.
[07:53] <AJ_Riddle> ok
[07:53] <troy_s> aj_riddle:  that said, i would feel a whole lot better starting with openbsd as a webserver for you out of the gate.
[07:54] <AJ_Riddle> also, why can't I use the make command in the terminal?
[07:54] <DavidLeeRoth> skippy, it works on other pcs, so it's not the medium! it's weird because my laptop and desktop basically have the same hardware :(.
[07:54] <Geoffrey2> is there any reason not to include Backports in the Package Manager?
[07:54] <troy_s> aj_riddle:  it has a plethora of more secure features.  further still, you will learn enough about how a server operates to be more confident with linux.
[07:54] <cafg10_> Does someone knows how to setup a mail server
[07:54] <hengest> aj_ridddle, have you installed make via synaptic
[07:54] <troy_s> aj_riddle:  you need build-essential.
[07:54] <AJ_Riddle> no?
[07:54] <anfangs> what suggestion would you make? I want to share files (mp3s) from my linux desktop here at home with my windows 2000 box at work.
[07:54] <AJ_Riddle> ok
[07:55] <anfangs> should i use ftp? or is there a more suitable app i dont know about
[07:55] <tritium> anfangs: gnump3d
[07:55] <troy_s> aj_riddle:  needless to say, don't rush it.  learn as much as you can before you setout to prevent bad habits and bad exploitation potential.
[07:55] <troy_s> anfangs:  use ssh.
[07:55] <`Chip`> If someone has a suggestion, I have a problem where a majority of confiuguration prgorams in Gnome under Administration are missing including Users and Groups and Synaptic
[07:55] <anfangs> tritium: ill check out gnump3d
[07:55] <omirix> Pasted by: bickoma
[07:55] <cafg10_> anfangs which partition type is windows using
[07:55] <omirix> Language: Plain Text
[07:55] <troy_s> anfangs:  takes about six seconds to setup on ubuntu if you want a server on it.  slightly more if you use winblows.
[07:56] <omirix> Description: No description
[07:56] <omirix> Remove line numbers
[07:56] <w^x> man im having trouble with the nvidia-glx driver
[07:56] <CokeNCode> ok, i just updated to 6.06 ... questions, why wasn't xchat available anymore, and why can't i use "locate" ?
[07:56] <skippy> omirix,  give me that ls output
[07:56] <omirix> Download as Text
[07:56] <tritium> omirix: please don't paste all taht
[07:56] <tritium> that
[07:56] <omirix> Other recent pastes
[07:56] <hengest> `Chip`: try alacarte menu editor
[07:56] <omirix> Create new paste
[07:56] <omirix> 1
[07:56] <troy_s> angfangs:  you only have one option across a network if you want security:  ssh.
[07:56] <omirix> 2
[07:56] <cafg10_> Does someone knows how to setup a mail server?
[07:56] <omirix> 3
[07:56] <omirix> 4
[07:56] <`Chip`> hengest...I tried and everything is checked off
[07:56] <omirix> 5
[07:56] <Flannel> cafg10_: what sort of mail server.
[07:56] <omirix> 6
[07:56] <arooni> folks when i see '-a/--append"... these are just two differnet ways to pass command line args to a *nix program right?
[07:56] <omirix> 7
[07:56] <nzx> i need some help with enabling guest mode in xserver please
[07:56] <tritium> omirix: please stop
[07:56] <omirix> 8
[07:56] <troy_s> cokencode:  locate requires a database:  use find (man find for more info)
[07:56] <omirix> 9
[07:56] <omirix> 
[07:56] <Flannel> !ops
[07:56] <cafg10_> Flannel a pop3 one
[07:56] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:57] <omirix> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[07:57] <hengest> `Chip`; dunno then, sry
[07:57] <omirix> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23/include
[07:57] <anfangs> cafg10_: my win2k box has ntfs.
[07:57] <omirix> 
[07:57] <omirix> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1) does not match your
[07:57] <`Chip`> thanks anyways, appreciate any help I can get
[07:57] <troy_s> cokencode: add xchat via apt-get or another package manager frontend.
[07:57] <hengest> np
[07:57] <omirix> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[07:57] <omirix> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[07:57] <omirix> holy crap
[07:57] <omirix> sorry accident tritium
[07:57] <omirix> skippy: what directory?
[07:57] <cafg10_> anfangs sorry i didnot read the question right, forget it
[07:57] <omirix> usr src?
[07:57] <omirix> root@sphere:/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23/include/asm-x86_64# ls /usr/src
[07:57] <omirix> kernel-source-2.4.27.tar.bz2           linux-source-2.6.15
[07:57] <omirix> linux-headers-2.6.15-23                linux-source-2.6.15.tar
[07:57] <omirix> linux-headers-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[07:57] <tritium> no problem.  That's why I quieted you for a bit
[07:57] <omirix> root@sphere:/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23/include/asm-x86_64#
[07:57] <omirix> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fBoWT517.html
[07:58] <skippy> yes omirix
[07:58] <anfangs> tritium: this gnump3d app looks promising.
[07:58] <troy_s> ubotu, tell anfangs about ssh
[07:58] <tritium> omirix: but you better start using pastebin
[07:58] <cafg10_> Flannel any idea
[07:58] <tritium> anfangs: glad you like it :)
[07:58] <CokeNCode> troy_s, ok, yeh, i did that, and i'm using xchat now ... but what about locate ?
[07:58] <mathew-ef> Can someone give me the link/URL to see how the WPA works in 6.06?
[07:58] <troy_s> cokencode:  it is database driven meaning it will work in a bit.  use find until then.
[07:58] <CokeNCode> ok, wait, i can run locate ... but only as root
[07:59] <troy_s> cokencode:  it needs to build itself.
[07:59] <omirix> tritium: yeah sorry accident
[07:59] <CokeNCode> troy_s, oh k ... weird
[07:59] <CokeNCode> troy_s,  ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:59] <bonee> what are some good eye candy to install
[07:59] <Kr0ntab> mathew-ef, check /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes for more info
[07:59] <paul_> How many have had problems upgrading from beezy to dapper? Are there any horror stories I should know about? From what I read on the wiki site many have had problems
[07:59] <troy_s> !wpa
[07:59] <ubotu> For easy WPA support in Ubuntu 6.06, install the package network-manager-gnome, then log out and in. Otherwise, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto.
[07:59] <Flannel> cafg10_: well, there are a few, postfix, dovecot, search the wiki for "pop3" and you'll get a list of HowTos.
[07:59] <CokeNCode> troy_s, so, what other stuff has to "build itself" ?
[07:59] <anfangs> troy_s: ill look into ssh, ive hear of it before, seems like it would be useful for a lot of things.
[07:59] <troy_s> night all.
[07:59] <poje> night troy_s
[07:59] <cafg10_> Flannel Thank you
[07:59] <troy_s> anfangs:  it is brother.  it is awsome work.
[07:59] <CokeNCode> anfangs, ssh is good stuff, it's on by default with ubuntu
[08:00] <troy_s> anfangs:  you can remote x apps thru it, share files securely, remotely administer a box, etc... all through ONE port
[08:00] <Flannel> CokeNCode: no it's not.  ubuntu has nothing listening by default.
[08:00] <CokeNCode> Flannel, oops ... well, i guess i configured it to listen ... and forgot about it somehow ... :/
[08:00] <omirix> CokeNCode: he is correct.. =] 
[08:00] <poje> CokeNCode: I thought it only turned on if you installed openssh-server?
[08:00] <skippy> omirix, try "cd /usr/src/"
[08:00] <troy_s> anfangs:  and it is one of the most securely written daemons out there.
[08:00] <tritium> that's right, poje
[08:01] <poje> Flannel: perhaps he meant that an ssh client is installed by default
[08:01] <poje> Ah
[08:01] <CokeNCode> is it dangerous to have port 631 listening ?
[08:01] <skippy> omirix, "sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15 linux"
[08:01] <cafg10_> Flannel there is nothing on wiki but found something on forums
[08:01] <mathew-ef> Kr0ntab: Thanks
[08:01] <skippy> then run your program again and keep hitting enter omirix
[08:02] <anfangs> troy_s: and i can connect from windows 2k? would this be thru telnet or should i use some other app?
[08:02] <`Chip`> Wow, talk about funny...I went into Alacarte unchecked all the items under Administration, and it removed the administration from the system menu
[08:02] <CokeNCode> no no no ... telnet is bad
[08:02] <Kr0ntab> mathew-ef, no prob...
[08:02] <troy_s> anfangs:  of course
[08:02] <Kr0ntab> mathew-ef, meet me in #Kr0ntab.
[08:02] <troy_s> anfangs:  and you can use a graphical app if need be -- winscp does files.
[08:02] <CokeNCode> anfangs, use putty
[08:02] <`Chip`> went back to alacarte and re-checked everything under administration, brought back tha administration undersystem but only device manager shows
[08:02] <anfangs> troy_s: srry ;) meant to refer to ssh
[08:02] <troy_s> anfangs:  free too.  but only really trust the stuff from openbsd's team if you want complete security -- meaning scp etc.
[08:02] <`Chip`> Quirky!!
[08:02] <skippy> tritium, if you dont mind me asking are you like a moderator - im new to IRC and i dont understand how all this "operator status" works?
[08:02] <nevyn> is there a shipit for large volume? 10 is really inadequete for my needs.
[08:03] <troy_s> anfangs:  winscp uses ssh
[08:03] <tritium> skippy: yes, I'm an op
[08:03] <troy_s> anfangs:  just a graphical interface into scp
[08:03] <troy_s> anfangs:  ssh is the defacto tool for all your networking needs.
[08:03] <Geoffrey2> what's a good antivirus package to use?
[08:03] <`Chip`> Is it possible to do a reinstall repair
[08:03] <`Chip`> without reformatting?
[08:03] <anfangs> ok, ill be reading those links uboto sent me
[08:04] <CokeNCode> for some strange reason, Opera just stopped working for me
[08:04] <skippy> Geoffrey2, virus's arnt really a priority on linux - you can safely not worry really
[08:04] <CokeNCode> i did an uninstall and a reinstall
[08:04] <CokeNCode> and nothing
[08:04] <troy_s> anfangs:  it really is the only choice if you want to keep everything secure.
[08:04] <skippy> Geoffrey2, if you are paranoid, then "clamav" is a virus checker
[08:04] <CokeNCode> what could be causing this ? I click on it and absolutely nothing happens
[08:04] <pojePrime> dsfdsfsdf
[08:04] <troy_s> cokencode:  try an open source browser... its easier to figure out the bugs.
[08:04] <omirix> skippy: nope
[08:05] <IGD> is there anyway to emulate windows standby mode in ubuntu?
[08:05] <avis> gnome-xchat is open source and i removed completely and reinstalled and it wont launch
[08:05] <tritium> IGD: yes, with suspend-to-ram (sleep)
[08:05] <smacky_wolf_> OK, my 3d rendering is all but useless on my system, which is fairly shiny. Any ideas on how OpenGl may be broken?>
[08:05] <allobjects> Anyone know of a package for Ubuntu similar to Publisher available on Windoze ? it lets you do invitations, cards and the like.
[08:05] <smacky_wolf_> I have my video drivers all working correctly.
[08:05] <troy_s> avis:  is there a process lingering holding it up?
[08:05] <CokeNCode> troy_s, ok, thanks. I use firefox, but I like that Opera remembers what windows I had open
[08:05] <avis> i dont think so troy_s
[08:06] <troy_s> cokencode:  epiphany does that no problem.
[08:06] <troy_s> cokencode:  and it is very lightweight, tabbed, etc.
[08:06] <IGD> tritium: thanks ill do some searchs
[08:06] <Geoffrey2> I realize Viruses aren't as big a problem on Linux as that other operating system, but I think it's being a little foolish to assume you're bulletproof just because one is running Linux
[08:06] <troy_s> avis:  ps -aux | grep chat
[08:06] <CokeNCode> i get Authentication rejected, reason: none of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host based authentication failed. Segmentation Fault
[08:06] <bimberi> allobjects: scribus
[08:06] <tritium> IGD: you're on a laptop?
[08:06] <IGD> ya
[08:07] <avis> none
[08:07] <MTecknology> Is there any way to get a list of changes to installed and removed applications?
[08:07] <troy_s> geoffry2:  good thought.  that said, virus checkers are rather a back ass way of trying to protect a computer.
[08:07] <McNutella> how come when I install drake, it resets configurations for applications like firefox ?
[08:07] <avis> just standard xchat
[08:07] <troy_s> avis:  gnome-xchat is a frontend, so that might be preventing it.
[08:07] <nevyn> MTecknology: using aptitude you can do it one at a time
[08:07] <kbrosnan> CokeNCode, there are also several extensions that will rembember your tabs for you https://addons.mozilla.org session saver and tab mix plus
[08:07] <CokeNCode> ok thanks troy_s i'm downloading as we speak
[08:07] <skippy> Geoffrey2, make sure you arnt running services unless you need and understand them - that will cut your risk of system penetration by about 90%
[08:07] <tritium> IGD: have you seen the "Suspend" button when you go to logout?  (Assuming you're running dapper)
[08:07] <avis> interesting
[08:07] <divineomega> 
[08:07] <asdx> where can i see the release noted
[08:07] <asdx> notes
[08:07] <IGD> tritium: i have a graphics problem that only seemed to be fixed if i went to standby mode in windows, now that this is a ubuntu system i cant fix my graphics problem, kinda wierd but its true
[08:08] <avis> well i'm in a kind of experimental mood
[08:08] <avis> bbl
[08:08] <allobjects> bimberi, scribus simple enough for kids to use ?
[08:08] <troy_s> cokencode:  its very slick in terms of light-weightedness.  epiphany-browser thought -- unfortunately there is a thing called epiphany that is a game.
[08:08] <anfangs> so i can transfer from a mounted windows partition just as easily as any other file, correct? (using SSH, that is)
[08:08] <skippy> Geoffrey2, ssh and telnet are the ones to be careful of :) in the wrong hands they give acess to your box to the whole world
[08:08] <tritium> IGD: not too surprising ;)
[08:08] <troy_s> allobjects:  gcompris has some simple drawing tools and an animation package.
[08:08] <CokeNCode> troy_s, yeh, i noticed that ... lol  .... managed to side step that land mine
[08:08] <omirix> skippy: that is still not working.
[08:08] <omirix> skippy: its still saying wrong version
[08:08] <skippy> same messege omirix?
[08:09] <Kane666> hey
[08:09] <omirix> skippy: yes
[08:09] <`Chip`> guess I am left to re-install
[08:09] <troy_s> ok out this time for real.  keep the information flowing friends.
[08:09] <MTecknology> nevyn, how do i use aptitude to see what has been installed recently?
[08:09] <skippy> it doesnt make sense, there is nothing on your system with the name 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1
[08:09] <bimberi> allobjects: i don't really know sorry.  I will say that it is part of the default edubuntu installation though :)
[08:09] <tritium> MTecknology: aptitude keeps logs in /var/log
[08:09] <`Chip`> Linux is very much a Large School of Hard knocks
[08:09] <McNutella> funny how no one answers that one
[08:09] <Kane666> QUESTION: How can i un-install samba, and leave only smbfs
[08:09] <skippy> omirix, are you sure that vmware doesnt have a configuration file somewhere which is filled in with the wrong values?
[08:10] <skippy> are you using a makefile?
[08:10] <skippy> if so edit it and check#
[08:10] <troy_s> `chip`:  actually, computer knowledge is horribly low thanks to ms and apple.  consider yourself learning how to read.
[08:10] <allobjects> bimberi, troy_s, thanks for the responses, I'll have a look. cheers
[08:10] <MTecknology> tritium, so i can only see the changes if i used aptitude to install them?
[08:10] <tritium> Kane666: simply leave samba-common installed
[08:10] <tritium> MTecknology: right
[08:10] <Geoffrey2> ok, no problems there...I see several Actions schedulers, two activity loggers, a graphical login manager and printer services..that's it...does that mean I don't have a firewall up at present?
[08:10] <MTecknology> ty
[08:11] <Kane666> tritium: do i just mark the other files for removal?
[08:11] <skippy> Geoffrey2, you can use "firestarter" to stealth drop packets
[08:11] <skippy> but if you dont have open ports you cant get hacked
[08:11] <tritium> Kane666: you can, yes
[08:11] <`Chip`> THanks Troy, I have been muddling around with Linux for a few years and I enjoy it more than Windows at most times as I like the more handls on approach and the vast amount of things that you can do with it
[08:11] <smacky_wolf_> Is it just me, or has Dapper been receiving far less updates since the official launch?
[08:11] <guiss> hi guys, any known url to get ungrab-winmodem ? do you know why it doesn't appear anywhere?
[08:11] <McNutella> smacky_wolf_, prolly a good thing
[08:11] <skippy> Geoffrey2, "nmap" is a good secruity tool, download it and scan yourself "sudo nmap 127.0.0.1"
[08:12] <kapputu> Regarding samba setup, why do I need to add a network user?
[08:12] <omirix> skippy: positive. it is reading it from the headers.
[08:12] <mathew-ef> Does anybody know whether we can install & run IE 6 with wine 0.9.9 in 6.06? I need IE 6 for one office app.
[08:12] <smacky_wolf_> McNutella, agreed. Dapper made my connection shaped :(
[08:12] <tritium> smacky_wolf_: there have been no security updates yet
[08:12] <`Chip`> why would you want to run IE6 on Linux
[08:12] <`Chip`> that proposterous
[08:12] <McNutella> smacky_wolf_, it reset all my configs, so I aiint gonna tell anyone else to upgrade until someone answers me why it does this
[08:12] <tritium> smacky_wolf_: after a stable release is made, only security fixes are released
[08:12] <smacky_wolf_> McNutella, which configs? And why?
[08:13] <smacky_wolf_> tritium, excellent.
[08:13] <kapputu> I have a question with Samba, anyone?
[08:13] <McNutella> smacky_wolf_, i installed it on my lappy, and it reset most things, like firefox and konverastion.. not a good idea when I had it configured the way I wanted
[08:13] <skippy> omirix,  well unless you have a chroot up or something silly like that im stumped.  I simply cant see how it thinks you have 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1 headers on your system
[08:13] <tritium> McNutella: apt doesn't automatically change config files.  debconf would ask you if you want to replace your old ones, or keep them
[08:13] <josys36> I hate wine run VMware.
[08:13] <josys36> VMware is so much more stable and works so much better.
[08:13] <McNutella> did I see anything about debconf ?
[08:14] <kapputu> Help with Samba anyone?
[08:14] <smacky_wolf_> McNutella, I did an update to Dapper and it kept all my configs. Go figure =/
[08:14] <omirix> skippy: this is retarded. i have no idea, i guess i give up.
[08:14] <tritium> McNutella: how should I know what you saw?
[08:14] <`Chip`> MAthew-ef what is your need for IE6 under linux?
[08:14] <omirix> skippy: im going to reinstall with x86 most likely
[08:14] <`Chip`> MAthew-ef what does the app you need to run use?
[08:14] <tritium> omirix: you never answered if you were able to install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:14] <McNutella> which part of the proceeds does it ask to keep or overwrite configs ??
[08:14] <omirix> tritium: yes i did
[08:14] <kapputu> hello??
[08:14] <blocky> kapputu
[08:15] <smacky_wolf_> McNutella, no clue. It just kept all of mine =3
[08:15] <omirix> tritium: linux-headers-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic is already the newest version.
[08:15] <kapputu> blocky: quick question
[08:15] <McNutella> damn random thing smacky_wolf_ heh
[08:15] <blocky> nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:15] <kapputu> I'm looking at the Ubuntu guide to setup Samba
[08:15] <kapputu> no GUI
[08:15] <tritium> McNutella: any time a config file is updated in a package, you're given a choice about what to do
[08:15] <kapputu> now that guide says smbpasswd -a system_username
[08:15] <smacky_wolf_> McNutella, when did you do your upgrade?
[08:15] <kapputu> now is that 'system_username' a placeholder or do I have use that???????
[08:15] <McNutella> i upgraded my lappy on the first, smacky_wolf_
[08:15] <Geoffrey2> port 631 is open
[08:16] <pojePrime> Okay I give up on mozzilla-mplayer/mplayerplug-in
[08:16] <blocky> its a placeholder lol
[08:16] <tritium> McNutella: which config files, specifically, are you concerned about?
[08:16] <smacky_wolf_> GOD damn. WINE refuses to compile, no matter how I try it.
[08:16] <tritium> smacky_wolf_: watch the language please
[08:16] <McNutella> tritium, most of them :S
[08:16] <tritium> smacky_wolf_: also, just install the ubuntu package
[08:16] <McNutella> makes me a little anxious about upgrading the main PC here
[08:17] <kapputu> ok, in the second part I have to edit the smbusers file
[08:17] <pojePrime> smacky_wolf_: what's yer error?
[08:17] <tritium> McNutella: that doesn't happen
[08:17] <smacky_wolf_> tritium, Can't. x86_64
[08:17] <McNutella> a one off case, but it still happened
[08:17] <kapputu> In that I'm asked to setup system_username = "network usernaem"
[08:17] <kapputu> in that is network username the name that I used with smbpasswd?
[08:17] <skippy> omirix,  have you seen this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VMwarePlayerAndQemu ??
[08:17] <tritium> McNutella: please give me the specifics so we can investigate it
[08:18] <smacky_wolf_> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[08:18] <smacky_wolf_> winegcc: gcc-3.4 failed.
[08:18] <CokeNCode> ok, i'm getting hell trying to get Nessus to work, can anyone help me out here
[08:18] <blocky> anyone know why my mouse will periodically stop responding since upgrading to dapper from breezy
[08:18] <mathew-ef> Chip: Some internally developped tool & Frontend browser shoule be IE. I have tried other browsers in windows & did not work.
[08:18] <CokeNCode> it keeps telling me htat it can't connect, and i don't know how to start the daemon running
[08:18] <blocky> use nmap
[08:18] <McNutella> I cant be more specific.. I upgraded the laptop, and from what I can see, by default it just made all the tools use default settings
[08:18] <McNutella> and it took out alot of tools that I use also
[08:18] <IGD> anyone know where to change the aspect ratio for widescreen monitors?
[08:18] <CokeNCode> blocky, isn't Nessus better than nmap ?
 smacky_wolf_: also, just install the ubuntu package<-- tritium, you really shouldn't recommend that in reference to WINE.
[08:19] <smacky_wolf_> pojePrime, this is the fartherest I've managed to get it. Actually managing to get part way through make is a first./
[08:19] <tritium> IGD: from the console, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:19] <K1mb3rly> I'm trying to upgrade my desktop and the new graphical installer (which is really nice) does not seem to allow me to install to my existing LVM group. Can anyone help me do so?
[08:19] <mheath> Ubuntu's WINE packages are horribly out of date, and WINE has made leaps and bounds since then.
[08:19] <Kwek> hi
[08:19] <Kwek> i need help
[08:19] <kholerabb1> Is there a way to get deskbar to search my files?
[08:19] <tritium> mheath: we _always_ advise ubuntu packages here
[08:19] <IGD> tritium: thanks
[08:19] <phpmattk_> kholerabb1: beagle
[08:19] <Kwek> i am at the livecd installation manually edit partition tables screen
[08:19] <tritium> mheath: if you want winehq.com packages, use them
[08:19] <pojePrime> smacky_wolf_: GCC4 might help
[08:19] <Kwek> how do i set a partition for /root 10gb and swap 1gb?
[08:20] <Kwek> i am partitioning without reformatting
[08:20] <pojePrime> And yes, smacky_wolf_: ubuntu packages are good
[08:20] <mheath> tritium: Why always? The ubuntu wiki advises otherwise, against using them.
[08:20] <Kwek> how do i set a partition for a 10gb root partition and 1gb swap?
[08:20] <mheath> Using the official WINE packages, that is
[08:20] <smacky_wolf_> PojePrime, point me to where I can get 64bit architecture, and I'll gladly use them.
[08:20] <pojePrime> smacky_wolf_: touche ;d
[08:20] <`Chip`> MAthew-ef sorry i can't help, I was going to try and suggest installing firefox Windows version with wine, but don't think that will solve your prblem
[08:20] <digikom> kwek: easiest to use gparted
[08:21] <kholerabb1> Beagle.. can I just do that through aptitude or synatpic?
[08:21] <anfangs> SHH QUESTION: so with ssh, the remote user has all the rights that they would if they were physically at my machine (provided they have the login/key)?
[08:21] <smacky_wolf_> pojePrime, hence why I am trying over and over to compile them.
[08:21] <Kwek> im at livecd partition tabes edit screen
[08:21] <anfangs> SSH*
[08:21] <Kwek> how do i do it?
[08:21] <smacky_wolf_> anfangs, depending on which user they are logged into
[08:21] <digikom> kwek:  which livecd?
[08:21] <mathew-ef> Chip: thanks. I will try that later.
[08:21] <smacky_wolf_> Er, mean to say,m yes
[08:21] <Kwek> ubuntu dapper
[08:21] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: r u on manual parition screen?
[08:21] <Kwek> yes
[08:21] <Kwek> i have no idea how to use it
[08:22] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: then why are you trying to use it?
[08:22] <digikom> Kwek: are you on the desktop?
[08:22] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: why not let it auto-partition?
[08:22] <anfangs> smacky_wolf_: ok
[08:22] <Kwek> because i need to install ubuntu without formatting my hdd
[08:22] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: do you have an existing OS on it?
[08:22] <Kwek> yes
[08:22] <Kwek> windows xp sp2
[08:22] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: only 1 HD?
[08:22] <Kwek> i just defragged and now partitioning
[08:22] <Kwek> yes
[08:23] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: so on /dev/hda1 it says filesystem: NTFS, right?
[08:23] <Kwek> yes
[08:23] <mheath> tritium, where is it the official policy to only recommend Ubuntu packages on here? Like I said, the official Ubuntu wiki even recommends against using the Ubuntu WINE packages...
[08:23] <kholerabb1> Could someone tell me how to get beagle?
[08:23] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: right-click on that and select Resize/Move
[08:23] <digikom> Kholerabb1:  sudo aptitude install beagle
[08:23] <Kwek> don
[08:23] <Kwek> done
[08:24] <kholerabb1> digikom: I tried that, doesn't work?
[08:24] <tritium> mheath: please don't pester about it.  Use the packages you prefer
[08:24] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: how much total space is on your HD and how much are you using in Windows and how much do you want for Ubuntu?
[08:24] <K1mb3rly> anfangs: putty
[08:24] <kholerabb1> "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "beagle""
[08:24] <McNutella> anfangs, yeah, ask god.. erm, google :)0
[08:24] <digikom> Kholerabb1:  you need to enable universe repositories
[08:24] <anfangs> K1mb3rly: ok, i thought maybe putty was only CLI
[08:24] <kholerabb1> digikom: how?
[08:24] <digikom> kholerabb1:  go to synaptic
[08:24] <Kwek> i have a 80gb hdd, max is 76317 mb and min is 46796 mb. I want 10gb space for ubuntu and 1gb for swap
[08:24] <andry_cool> hi
[08:24] <mheath> tritium, sorry, I was just trying to find out more about the policy you referenced so I could know to refrain from breaking it. :)
[08:25] <kholerabb1> digikom... yes?
[08:25] <digikom> Kholerabb1: go to menu settings
[08:25] <phpmattk_> anfangs: ssh=secure-SHell.. shell being the keyword.. you just get a command line.. if you want to remote control the desktop you need vnc (over ssh)
[08:25] <tritium> mheath: you can recommend what the wiki suggests
[08:25] <Hobbsee> mheath: the repo version of wine is old - almost a year old
[08:25] <digikom> kholerabb1:  repositories
[08:25] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: so in new size put 68.8 GB
[08:25] <Kwek> its in mb its say
[08:25] <mheath> Hobbsee, yeah, that was my point. :) (I brought that up after tritium suggested a user just use the repo version)
[08:26] <kholerabb1> digikom: add- comunity maintaned universe reps?
[08:26] <anfangs> phpmattk_: i guess i was just thinking like a remote file browser, which would allow me to transfer the files without having to deal with CLI....
[08:26] <digikom> Kholerabb1:  yes
[08:26] <Hobbsee> mheath: ah okya
[08:26] <Kwek> ho much is 68.8gb in mb?
[08:26] <phpmattk_> anfangs: winscp
[08:26] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: about 68800
[08:26] <kholerabb1> digikom: ok, thank you :) (what is universe though, old software?)
[08:26] <Kwek> k
[08:26] <mheath> Hobbsee, Hehe, I run about 5 programs in Wine....none of them are remotely supported yet in the current ubuntu repo version, but they work perfectly in the latest release :)
[08:26] <Kwek> its 1024x68.8
[08:26] <Kwek> lemme count
[08:26] <phpmattk_> anfangs: not sure if that has a gui.. but it is for transfering files over ssh..
[08:26] <digikom> Kholerabb1:  more software that is not officially supported
[08:26] <anfangs> phpmattk_: ok.. someone mentioned that earlier, ill check it out.
[08:27] <Hobbsee> mheath: nice.  wine seems a little weird to be in stable repos - as you always want the latest version of wine...
[08:27] <anfangs> phpmattk_: yes that looks like it has a gui... probably what i need.
[08:27] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: approximate is fine.
[08:27] <skippy81> guys is there anyway i can maniputate the window that a program starts in when i run it from a terminal? window size, colour etc?
[08:27] <Kwek> done
[08:27] <phpmattk_> anfangs: yah, its gui http://winscp.net/eng/index.php
[08:28] <Kwek> k
[08:28] <Kwek> i put 68800
[08:29] <phpmattk_> anfangs: what oculd be easier than scp /var/file/source user@66.123.123.101:/var/file/dest guis slow things down
[08:29] <chavo> skippy81, depends on the program
[08:29] <Kwek> cant, if i put 68800 free space is 7517 only
[08:29] <skippy81> chavo: the program im running is an old game, it runs in a generic window with "untitled window" written on its menu bar
[08:30] <Kwek> i put 65317mb, what do i do next?
[08:30] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: that's fine, sorry my math is bad.
[08:30] <Kwek> its alright
[08:30] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: can you press the button to start the resize?
[08:30] <Kwek> my maths is bad too, ijust put in 11gb in the free space
[08:30] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: Resize/Move in the lower-right corner?
[08:30] <Kwek> k wait
[08:30] <anfangs> phpmattk_: well, i have a lot of audio file in different places on a windows mount here... so it's nice to be able to browser a little.
[08:30] <Kwek> clicked
[08:30] <magic> Hi! I just installed Xubuntu, So, where is the trashcan? I guess we don't need one since all we can do is just delete whatever we want to get rid of, but what about if we want to undelete something?
[08:30] <anfangs> files*
[08:30] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: now wait for it to finish... shouldn't take too long
[08:31] <Kwek> the operation is pending
[08:31] <Kwek> it isnt doing anything
[08:32] <phpmattk_> anfangs: true
[08:32] <Kwek> do i click next?
[08:32] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: then Right-Click and select New and create 2 new partitions. first a 1gb swap and next fill the remaining space with the EXT3 root (/) file system.
[08:32] <samuel__> command to install kde under ubuntu?
[08:32] <Robbie[MCD] > trying to install ubuntu but no luck, got a few error mesages and wondering if anyone could help me or point me in the right direction
[08:32] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: then click Next
[08:32] <Kwek> k
[08:32] <Midknight> Let me start off by just saying, WoW...I'm now a Ubuntu Convert ;) I not only have it fully up and running on laptop, Wireless, DRI working and sound ;)  Good bye Gentoo
[08:33] <mcarroll> hi there, i'm running fetchmail and local imap and storing mail in ~/Maildir, i'm trying to configure mail-notification (for the gnome notification area) to alert me when new mail comes in, but it says re system mailbox:  "The location of your system mailbox could not be detected. Check the MAIL environment variable"... I can't remember where to set that, can someone help me out?
[08:33] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: if you can't create new partitions yet, you may first have to resize stuff through System / Administration / Gnome Partition Editor.
[08:33] <phpmattk_> samuel__ : apt-get install kubunutu-desktop
[08:33] <answerguy> skippy81 Many X programs accept a -geometry option
[08:33] <Kwek> hmm
[08:33] <Kwek> how do i create one for swap?
[08:33] <phpmattk_> samuel__: erhhr.. kubuntu-desktop .. obviously
[08:33] <chavo> Robbie[MCD] , what are the errors?
[08:33] <Kwek> create as what partition?
[08:34] <McNutella> when I try removing programs, why does it always say it relies upon so much, like desktops?
[08:34] <Mysta> hello, whats the easiest way for me to copy files from my windows box to a linux box???
[08:34] <answerguy> That allows one to specific the initial size and location of the window
[08:34] <richard_> hdparm doesnt like my hd's
[08:34] <skippy81> ok answerguy, ill try that thanks :)
[08:34] <Kwek> ext3 and active partition also for swap?
[08:34] <Robbie[MCD] > PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0001:11:02.0
[08:34] <neutrinomass> Has anybody got the alcatel speedtouch to work with Dapper ?
[08:34] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: ext3 should be the active partition, not swap
[08:34] <hengest> Mysta: are they networked
[08:34] <mheath> Mysta, Linux has a program called Samba that allows you to copy files from shared directories on Windows machines.
[08:34] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: make swap first
[08:34] <richard_> hdparm really dislikes my hds
[08:34] <richard_>  BLKROGET failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[08:34] <richard_>  BLKRAGET failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[08:34] <richard_>  BLKGETSIZE failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[08:34] <Kwek> so what do i make for swap?
[08:35] <richard_> anyone know what to do ?
[08:35] <Robbie[MCD] > that happens after about fifteen minutes waiting for the spalsh screen to create root
[08:35] <Mysta> hengest: yes they are
[08:35] <Kwek> ooh
[08:35] <Kwek> filesystem for swap is linux-swap?
[08:35] <abo> I want to mount a ntfs disk, in /etc/fstab I added the following: /dev/sda2       /media/sda2     ntfs-fuse       fmask=0111,dmask=0,succeed_chmod  0 0  , is that wrong?
[08:35] <bimberi> Mysta: create a share on the windows box and connec to it via Places -> Connect to Server... on the ubuntu box
[08:35] <Mysta> mheath: i am short on time
[08:35] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: yeah
[08:35] <bimberi> *connect
[08:35] <mheath> Mysta, Assuming the two computers are networked, you can copy files by using the network file browser built into the Gnome desktop in Ubuntu.
[08:35] <richard_> what is wrong with the drives?
[08:35] <Kwek> so swap is a primary partition too?
[08:35] <Mysta> mheath: looking for a quick solution like SCP or something?
[08:35] <Mysta> mheath: oh really
[08:35] <hengest> then as the other guy sorta said, just use samba to create windows shares on the linux pc
[08:35] <Mysta> ok
[08:35] <mheath> Mysta, I just gave you one, a point and click solution that ships with Ubuntu by default. Enjoy :)
[08:36] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: sure
[08:36] <K1mb3rly> I have to go. Bye
[08:36] <K1mb3rly> Kwek: good luck.
[08:36] <Kwek> so after setting all these, nextr?
[08:36] <Kwek> bye
[08:36] <Anusien> Hey can someone help me out setting up a dual boot?  I had Linux first (my windows partition got corrupted), and I reinstalled windows.  How do I setup the boot loader?
[08:36] <Kwek> thanks
[08:36] <skb> Swap should have its own partition type.
[08:36] <mo0se> whenever i try to access a windows ntfs partition, it says there was an error mounting it.
[08:36] <bimberi> Anusien: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:37] <mo0se> how do i fix this?
[08:37] <hengest> mo0se: you need to set up /etc/fstab
[08:37] <mo0se> what's that?
[08:37] <skb> Linux swap should be type 82.
[08:37] <mo0se> hehe. i'm new to linux.
[08:37] <mo0se> sorry.
[08:38] <hengest> do you know which hd partition you want
[08:38] <ntars> @mo0se: welcome to linux!
[08:38] <mo0se> :D
[08:38] <mo0se> i think it's sda1?
[08:38] <abo> I have this in my fstab
[08:38] <abo> /usr/bin/ktorrent
[08:38] <mcarroll> anyone know where i set the MAIL environment variable (for gnome mail-notification to work) - i'm running fetchmail to a local Maildir store
[08:38] <mheath> mo0se, how are you trying to access or mount the partition?
[08:38] <abo> /dev/sda2       /media/sda2     ntfs-fuse       fmask=0111,dmask=0,succeed_chmod 0 0
[08:38] <samuel__> what is the kde command sudo apt-get kde ubuntu?
[08:38] <mo0se> with nautilus.
[08:39] <sm0ketst> mornin
[08:39] <Anusien> bimberi: in that guide, when it says "mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/work" under "load your filesystem and some information GRUB will need" why does it use /dev/hda4?
[08:39] <phpmattk_> samuel__: pay attention.... i've already told you 3 times... apt=get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:39] <mo0se> i think i can access it with the terminal.
[08:39] <mo0se> i haven't tried.
[08:39] <anfangs> another SSH question: are there tools to monitor/admin my SSH server? ex. monitor current users logged in, kick user, etc.?
[08:39] <abo> !kde
[08:39] <phpmattk_> anfangs /var/log/auth.log
[08:39] <hengest> mo0se, go into the terminal, and type sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:39] <Anusien> bimberi: or rather, how do I figure out which is the location of / and /boot.  I have windows partition on hda1 and ubuntu on hda2
[08:39] <bimberi> Anusien: that would be an example only.  you can use 'sudo fdisk -l' to work out the correct partition for your case
[08:40] <abo> !tell samuel__ about kde
[08:40] <mo0se> okay.
[08:40] <mo0se> now what?
[08:40] <Robbie[MCD] > I downloaded and burned ubuntu 6.06 on a cd and tried installing, but its not working getting error.   PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of Device 0001:11:02.0
[08:40] <hengest> the, at the end of the file, paste: /dev/sda1       'where you want it mounted'  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[08:40] <phpmattk_> anfangs: the admin is in the conf files.. and you can get some tools like denyhosts to auto ban brute force attacks
[08:40] <pojePrime> Okay, so while I'm trying to compile mplayerplug-in it is saying that the libXpm library hasn't been found, when it DEFINITELY is
[08:41] <Anusien> bimberi: boot is on /dev/hda1 and / would be /dev/hda2 because that's the linux partition?
[08:41] <mo0se> i would mount it /media/windows, right?
[08:41] <hengest> mo0te: yeah
[08:41] <mheath> Robbie[MCD] , you're getting this error very shortly after the CD tries to boot? (You get a screen asking questions about boot...hit enter..then see that message almost immediately?)
[08:41] <Robbie[MCD] > no, no questions are asked
[08:41] <hengest> just make sure that /media/windows exists
[08:41] <Robbie[MCD] > it starts with a splash screne that says ubuntu and tries to setup root
[08:42] <Robbie[MCD] > then sits on that screen for about 15 min
[08:42] <bimberi> Anusien: no, you said windows is on hda1.  if you only had one linux partition then both / and /boot are on it.
[08:42] <mo0se> do i need to restart or something?
[08:42] <mo0se> i don't see it.
[08:42] <mo0se> :-/
[08:43] <Anusien> bimberi: so in this guide, their /dev/hda3 and /dev/hda4 are my /dev/hda2 (linux partition) even though fdisk -l shows the star in the boot column under /dev/hda1?
[08:43] <hengest> no, you don't need to restart
[08:43] <mheath> Robbie[MCD] , did you have Ubuntu installed before? It sounds almost like your booting into a corrupt installation, rather that into the install CD.
[08:43] <Robbie[MCD] > nope, no linux is installed, and i just zero'd the drive before trying.
[08:43] <DavidLeeRoth> !tell DavidLeeRoth about xgl
[08:43] <DavidLeeRoth> can someone tell me about xgl?
[08:43] <hengest> have you set it up as: /dev/sda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[08:44] <hengest> (includiong the 0s at the end?
[08:44] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell DavidLeeRoth about xgl
[08:44] <mheath> Robbie[MCD] , You get no messages asking what options you'd like to boot with, or prompting you for help, before it tries to boot?
[08:44] <ic56> !diskmounter-latest
[08:44] <phpmattk_> DavidLeeRoth: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Xgl-Compiz-Dapper
[08:44] <skb> !xgl
[08:44] <ubotu> xgl is probably "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[08:44] <mo0se> yeah the zeroes are there.
[08:44] <bimberi> Anusien: yes, a partition having a bootflag (indicated by the *) doesn't mean that it's /boot.  By the way a linux partition doesn't have to have a bootflag in order to boot from it (yes, it's confusing)
[08:44] <anfangs> phpmattk_: so there's no way to actively kick a user?
[08:44] <Robbie[MCD] > oh, yea, i get that option i hit tab then type in live then enter
[08:44] <Anusien> bimberi: thanks, will try this now
[08:44] <Robbie[MCD] > then it goes to the ubuntu splash screen
[08:45] <hengest> mo0se, good. now go into terminal, and do 'umount /dev/sda1'
[08:45] <phpmattk_> anfangs: it shouldnt come up often.. you dont want to give access to any old person
[08:45] <Robbie[MCD] > then after about fifteen mintues it gives me the previously mentioned message
[08:45] <mheath> Robbie[MCD] , you're looking to install Ubuntu, right?
[08:45] <Robbie[MCD] > yea
[08:45] <Robbie[MCD] > i just burned the 6.06 cde
[08:45] <Robbie[MCD] > *cd
[08:45] <mheath> Robbie[MCD] , try booting with the default options (just hit enter).
[08:45] <phpmattk_> anfangs: you could stop the server, then add then add a block to your iptables .. then bring the server back up
[08:45] <hengest> mo0se: ...and then 'mount /dev/sda1'
[08:45] <Robbie[MCD] > so at the command line, instead of typing anything just hit enter?
[08:45] <phpmattk_> anfangs: stop the ssh daemon that is..
[08:46] <mo0se> it says mount point /media/windows does not exist
[08:46] <mheath> Robbie[MCD] , yep. That works 90% of the time.
[08:46] <mo0se> @_@
[08:46] <Fujitsu> mo0se, sudo mkdir /media/windows
[08:46] <Robbie[MCD] > ok, i'll try it real quick and get back to you
[08:46] <mo0se> ahh...
[08:46] <Anusien> have to configure GRUB manually
[08:46] <mo0se> works!
[08:46] <mo0se> woohoo.
[08:46] <mo0se> i feel cool.
[08:46] <Fujitsu> mo0se, great!
[08:46] <mo0se> :P
[08:46] <hengest> cool
[08:46] <mo0se> thanks, hengest.
[08:47] <hengest> nprob
[08:47] <joycetick> can anybody help me with a wireless problem in xubuntu?
[08:47] <Fujitsu> !justask
[08:47] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[08:48] <joycetick> well in the live cd the wireless connection comes up and i can use it, but after i installed xubuntu the wireless connection option isent there anymore
[08:48] <Fujitsu> joycetick, what were you using on the Live CD?
[08:48] <Robbie[MCD] > mheath, i just hit enter this time and it gave me the error message right away, now its at the splash screen and its stuck at "mounting root file system"
[08:48] <Guard] [an> ello
[08:48] <Guard] [an> hello
[08:48] <Fujitsu> Hi, Guard] [an.
[08:48] <Guard] [an> i want to install ubuntu from scratch in desktop mode, should i choose desktop livecd or server install cd ?
[08:48] <joycetick> what do you mean fujitsu
[08:48] <Fujitsu> Guard] [an, from scratch?
[08:49] <Guard] [an> choosing the packages
[08:49] <Fujitsu> joycetick, what program were you using to configure wireless?
[08:49] <Fujitsu> Guard] [an, if you don't want the entirety of the GUI system, use the server CD.
[08:49] <joycetick> just system > networking
[08:49] <Fujitsu> Guard] [an, and then install the bits you want by hand.
[08:49] <Fujitsu> joycetick, aha.
[08:49] <Fujitsu> joycetick, please install the package `gnome-system-tools'.
[08:50] <Guard] [an> Fujitsu : well i want most of the gui stuff, but i want to have thunderbird in place of sypheed or such :)
[08:50] <Fujitsu> Guard] [an, OK.
[08:50] <Anusien> I want "makeactive" and "chainload +1" as the options in the menu.lst for XP?
[08:50] <Geoffrey2> well, now all I need to do is figure out how to get my wireless network device up and running, and I'll be all set
[08:50] <joycetick> ok il try that, thanks
[08:50] <Fujitsu> Guard] [an, just install the Desktop CD.
[08:50] <Fujitsu> Guard] [an, then add/remove packages as necessary.
[08:50] <mo0se> what's the best way to go if i wanna run windows at the same time as ubuntu?
[08:50] <mo0se> wine or vmware?
[08:50] <Fujitsu> mo0se, VMWare.
[08:51] <Fujitsu> mo0se, Wine can't be used for that sort of thing.
[08:51] <Guard] [an> ok thx
[08:51] <mo0se> i already have windows installed on another partition.
[08:51] <arcade> Ugh.  What happened to slashdot?! :)
[08:51] <Fujitsu> arcade, the new theme?
[08:51] <Anusien> For dualbooting, I'm editing menu.lst from GRUB.  All the auto-added Linux entries have "boot" at the end.  Do I need that for XP?
[08:52] <Fujitsu> arcade, it's revolting, and it takes ages to load.
[08:52] <arcade> Fujitsu: Well, yes, that new look.  Heh.
[08:52] <arcade> Fujitsu: Well, I think I can get used to it, but the old one has een there since .. the 90s! :)
[08:52] <zcat[1] > I prefered the omg!!! ponies!!! theme..
[08:52] <blaze> can somebody help me set my partition be write-able?
[08:52] <Fujitsu> arcade, yeah :(
[08:52] <Fujitsu> blaze, is it NTFS?
[08:52] <blaze> because i have one second extended partition
[08:52] <blaze> no, ex3
[08:52] <hannah> Hey there...  how do you burn to the dvd writer with the terminal? X is not working...  Any help?
[08:53] <Fujitsu> blaze, sounds like you don't have permissions over it...
[08:53] <blaze> yes
[08:53] <Robbie[MCD] > so now its gone back to the error message.
[08:53] <blaze> how to set them..
[08:53] <blaze> Fujitsu: ?
[08:53] <phpmattk_> hey.. i have a wacom tablet.. got it working in linux.. if i install vmware server and use it to run windows xp.. will i be able to use my tablet in xp through vmware?
[08:53] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell blaze about permissions.
[08:53] <Fujitsu> blaze, see the message from Ubotu.
[08:53] <blaze> ok, Fujitsu
[08:53] <Fujitsu> phpmattk_, possibly.
[08:54] <MadMerC> can i install another window manager eg. fluxbox on ubuntu ???
[08:54] <Anusien> I'm editing GRUB's menu.lst and all the default Linux entries have "boot" at the end.  The guide online and the examples don't include this.  Do I need it?
[08:54] <phpmattk_> Fujitsu: i guess i'll just ahve to try it out
[08:55] <skb> MadMerC: Short answer is yes :)
[08:55] <MadMerC> ok thanx
[08:56] <Anusien> Thoughts?
[08:57] <ic56> Anusien: perhaps "boot" is the default grub action and can be omitted.  All examples I've seen had it.
[08:57] <blaze> ok, Fujitsu, i've set the permission stuff but next time i boot my ubuntu will it remember the settings i gave to it? :)
[08:57] <Fujitsu> blaze, yes. They're stored on the disk.
[08:57] <Anusien> ic56: I'll try adding "boot" to the end, then booting.  Thanks
[08:58] <blaze> ok, cool :)
[08:58] <blaze> 10x :-P
[08:58] <Robbie[MCD] > i'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06 off a cd i burned when the command line comes up I just hit enter.  It gives error PCI: cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0001:11:02.0 then goes to splash screen to try and mount root system, then returns to previous error.
[08:58] <holycow> hey guys
[08:58] <holycow> i just dist upgraded to dapper ... and no sound
[08:59] <holycow> nothing on the wiki nor google nor forums even comes close to debugging this
[08:59] <ic56> blaze you still here?
[08:59] <Anusien> I followed those instructions and after the BIOS it just goes to a blinking black screen
[08:59] <jirwin> hey, using dapper, is there anyway to change the ubuntu graphic on startup?
[08:59] <holycow> the cards seem recognized, the modules seem to be running
[08:59] <jirwin> the one before gdm?
[08:59] <holycow> i'm hoping by off chance someone here has some other tips to try and get sound back?
[08:59] <x00t> cl
[09:00] <crazy_penguin> good day all!
[09:00] <brosio>  anyone known applications like stramtuner for listen radio from web on linux ?
[09:00] <jirwin> hello
[09:00] <bam__> where does wget normally store its downloaded files?
[09:00] <alleyoopster> holycow: have you checked what is set in multimedia system selector?
[09:00] <ic56> Anusien: hit c to to get grub's CLI and go from there
[09:00] <skb> The directory you invoke it from
[09:00] <mcarroll> bam: in the current directory
[09:00] <bam__> thanks
[09:00] <jirwin> bam__, in the current directory
[09:00] <holycow> alleyoopster, yeah, nothing produces a peep at all
[09:00] <jirwin> good call mcarroll :)
[09:01] <alleyoopster> holycow: is it set to use ALSA?
[09:01] <Anusien> ic56: it didn't default boot anything
[09:01] <jirwin> holycow, sure things aren't muted?
[09:01] <phpmattk_> jirwin: edit your c:\windows\logow.sys file
[09:01] <holycow> of course not, esd
[09:01] <jirwin> phpmattk_, very funny. :(
[09:01] <ic56> Anusien: so the "boot" keyword is required eh?
[09:01] <blaze> yes ic56, i'm here
[09:01] <holycow> jirwin, master button is not muted, nothing in the mixer looks muted except for the input stuff :/
[09:02] <phpmattk_> jirwin: i i couldnt resist that bit of win98 nostalgia
[09:02] <Anusien> ic56: no I tried with the boot keyword
[09:02] <Anusien> nothing
[09:02] <MadMerC> if i install a new window manager eg. fluxbox would it change the way i get to stuff on my desktop ??
[09:02] <ic56> blaze: you still have a problem with making a partition writable?
[09:02] <mo0se> !mp3
[09:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:02] <blaze> i haven't rebooted
[09:02] <blaze> but i made it writeable
[09:02] <jirwin> phpmattk_, no kidding...those were the days.
[09:02] <blaze> ic56: my partition is ex3
[09:02] <ic56> Anusien: maybe the problem is elsewhere -- something else in the config.
[09:02] <jirwin> this channel is more active than I have ever seen it.
[09:02] <ic56> blaze: so, problem solved?
[09:02] <Anusien> ic56: amybe.  Most of it is default.  I'll post it
[09:02] <blaze> yes, ic56 :)
[09:03] <Anusien> ic56: as soon as the liveCD comes back up
[09:03] <ic56> blaze: ok, good. ttyl
[09:03] <blaze> if it stays the same after rebooting, so the problem will be solved
[09:03] <ic56> blaze: how did you fix it?
[09:03] <phpmattk_> jirwin: ya, dapper got some major press
[09:03] <jirwin> phpmattk_, I figured as much.
[09:04] <blaze> ic56: i just typed user@host:/home/user$ chmod ugo+rwx file4
[09:04] <jirwin> phpmattk_, "most anticipated Linux release of all time"
[09:04] <myleftfoot> hey Madpilot, nice graphic for ubuntu canada
[09:04] <blaze> and a few more before that.. but i think they don't matter
[09:04] <blaze> didn't matter *
[09:04] <Madpilot> myleftfoot, thanks
[09:04] <ic56> blaze: ok, that will stay that way after reboot.  However, the way you did it is very insecure.
[09:04] <hengest> well, its the first one that has given me any grief so far
[09:04] <jirwin> so no one knows how to edit that graphic?
[09:05] <jirwin> has to be somewhere
[09:05] <blaze> why ic56 ?
[09:05] <ic56> blaze: did any of the other commands include "mount"?
[09:05] <blaze> it's my second partition
[09:05] <phpmattk_> jirwin: sounds about right... i was anticipting fedora 5 more so though
[09:05] <blaze> no ic56
[09:05] <blaze> :)
[09:05] <skb> Is that part of GRUB?
[09:05] <seouge> how can i get my monitor refresh rate up from 60hz
[09:05] <blaze> it's mounting with fstab atomaticly
[09:05] <Fujitsu> blaze, that let's everybody read and write that partition.
[09:05] <jirwin> it is just that I installed kubuntu-desktop to get kde(just to try), and it switched the graphic on me.
[09:05] <jirwin> seouge, edit xorg.conf ?
[09:05] <ic56> blaze: ok, then you'll have no problem after reboot.
[09:05] <blaze> so.. Fujitsu, how can i make it only me that will read and write? :)
[09:06] <seouge> jirwin: where is xorg.conf located?
[09:06] <blaze> or.. don't tell me
[09:06] <aleskike> ola
[09:06] <blaze> i'll read the article
[09:06] <blaze> :)
[09:06] <jirwin> seouge, /etc/X11
[09:06] <ic56> blaze: it's insecure because you're allowing full read-write access to anyone and everyone who logs into your system.
[09:06] <zcat[1] > jirwin: it's not easy; you have to design a 16 color bitmap and then link it into the usplash binary..
[09:06] <blaze> when i have more time, thanks anyway
[09:06] <seouge> thanks jirwin
[09:06] <Fujitsu> No problem, blaze.
[09:06] <blaze> ok, i'll keep that in mind ic56, and fix it
[09:06] <jirwin> zcat[1] , no easy fix?
[09:06] <Morrowyn> morning
[09:06] <blaze> 10x to you both :-)
[09:06] <zcat[1] > !usplash
[09:06] <ubotu> [usplash]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:06] <ic56> blaze: welcome.
[09:06] <zcat[1] > as easy as it gets
[09:06] <MyNameIsNotBob> anyone know of an easy way to use dr17 on dapper?
[09:07] <jirwin> exactly what I was lookin for. Thanks :)
[09:07] <MyNameIsNotBob> i mean install
[09:07] <seouge> jirwin: where exactly should i edit it?
[09:08] <hengest> seoge: try: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ChangeResolution
[09:08] <mo0se> whenever i try to do an apt-get gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly i get an invalid operation error.
[09:08] <mo0se> what's the correct operation?
[09:09] <ic56> !diskmounter-latest
[09:09] <MyNameIsNotBob> mo0se, put a -i in there
[09:09] <ic56> moOse: you're missing the word "install"
[09:09] <Anusien> Okay, back into livecd
[09:09] <Anusien> !dualboot
[09:09] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[09:09] <mo0se> oh.
[09:09] <mo0se> okay.
[09:09] <mo0se> lemme try.
[09:10] <mo0se> yay! :-P
[09:10] <ic56> Anusien: you gonna pastebin your grub config?
[09:10] <ic56> moOse: :-)
[09:11] <mo0se> crap. now i don't have sound.
[09:11] <mo0se> hahaha.
[09:11] <Anusien> ic56: yeah, ahve to re-setup the mount so I can grab it
[09:11] <ic56> Anusien: cool
[09:11] <robl_> Hi - does anybody know how to disable gnome-screensaver from starting when suspending to ram
[09:11] <J_Man> hello everyone - has there been any reported problems with the new Dapper installer on Radeon-based hardware?
[09:12] <Mysta> hello, does nano have syntax highlighting?
[09:12] <arooni> curl question for you geniuses here: I am requesting images via my web server without actually having the name of the file/extension.  i believe this information is contained in the http header curl receives.  ::
[09:12] <J_Man> I just tried to boot the desktop install cd, and all i got was a black screen - even tried the "safe mode"-ish option on boot
[09:12] <arooni> Is there a way of having curl examine the header, grab filename/extension, and then save the image file with those same attributes... all in one step?  thanks!
[09:12] <Anusien> ic56: it's chrooted, so I have to find where it actually is
[09:12] <Frogzoo> J_Man: no problems here... - but be sure to upgrade to the fglrx driver...
[09:12] <Frogzoo> !tell J_Man about fglrx
[09:12] <glick> hi i found a potential security vulnerability in dapper
[09:13] <glick> who do i report that to?
[09:13] <J_Man> Frogzoo, sure, if I could get the install going anyway :)
[09:13] <digikom> Mysta: not 100% sure but I think not...gedit has it for sure though
[09:13] <Frogzoo> J_Man: :(
[09:13] <hengest> mo0se: under applications, goto accesories, the alacarte menu editor
[09:13] <J_Man> the livecd boot to do the install won't give me a desktop at all
[09:13] <ic56> robl_: System> Preferences> Screensaver ?
[09:13] <Mysta> digikom: thx, is vim the only terminal based app that does it?
[09:14] <mo0se> hengest, now what?
[09:14] <digikom> Mysta: honestly I just don't know
[09:14] <pojePrime> HA HA HA I WIN
[09:14] <Fujitsu> pojePrime, ?
[09:14] <pojePrime> Yes. *fist pump*
[09:14] <digikom> Mysta:  I don't really use cli apps that much
[09:14] <pojePrime> Fujitsu: mplayerplug-in
[09:14] <Mysta> digikom: thx
[09:14] <pojePrime> Success.
[09:14] <mo0se> volume control?
[09:14] <pojePrime> That is all.
[09:14] <Madpilot> glick, file a bug report @ launchpad
[09:14] <J_Man> more info - turion64 laptop, but trying to install the x86 version of ubuntu
[09:14] <hengest> mo0se: then gto system, preferences, and check the multimedia systems selector one
[09:14] <jirwin> zcat[1] , what app would you use to make a 16  color app?
[09:14] <Madpilot> glick, what's the vulnerability?
[09:14] <jirwin> not app....png
[09:14] <glick> Madpilot, whats the website?
[09:15] <robl_> ic56 : no - you can't disable it there, only set it to be blank
[09:15] <J_Man> I'm considering installing Breezy and doing the upgrade to Dapper that way
[09:15] <pojePrime> Mysta: Vim is the best command line editor :)
[09:15] <Madpilot> glick, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[09:15] <J_Man> since I know breezy will install on here
[09:15] <glick> Madpilot, well if you have a bin file in your home directory, that is searched for commands before the system directories
[09:15] <mo0se> i'm in the multimedia systems selector.
[09:15] <joycetick> Is fujitsu still here?
[09:15] <ic56> Mysta: emacs also has syntax highlighting.  A couple others probably do too.
[09:15] <MistaED> hey i just bought a usb video capture thing and i'm trying it with ubuntu, the only thing is the video module isn't being detected, does anyone have an idea to get it going? the audio part of it gets detected when plugged in though
[09:15] <Anusien> ic56: I can't seem to get the data out of the chroot jail
[09:15] <Madpilot> glick, I think that's a known issue - it's one of the risks of having a ~/bin (but I could be wrong...)
[09:15] <hengest> mo0se: try changing the output plugin and clicking test each time
[09:16] <mo0se> okay.
[09:16] <J_Man> glick - that's also fixable by editing /etc/profile and removing ~/bin from the default PATH
[09:16] <joycetick> Fujitsu, are you still here?
[09:16] <J_Man> most distros, tho...do add ~/bin to the path for user-defined scripts
[09:16] <Fujitsu> joycetick, yes.
[09:16] <Fujitsu> joycetick, I'm always here :)
[09:16] <joycetick> :)
[09:16] <hengest> mo0se: make sure no other apps are trying to play sound when you do this
[09:16] <glick> J_Man, its just a bad default setting
[09:16] <holycow> mo0se, i don't have sound either
[09:17] <joycetick> i installed gnome-system-tools, now what
[09:17] <poje> Wow, I am SO happy you have no idea
[09:17] <Fujitsu> joycetick, run network-admin
[09:17] <ic56> glick: what's the problem with ~/bin again?!
[09:17] <J_Man> glick - matter of opinion - I think it's a reasonable default :)
[09:17] <poje> There remains only one single thing in the way from my desktop conversion
[09:17] <J_Man> it's in the default PATH, ic56
[09:17] <ic56> J_Man: why shouldn't it be?!
[09:17] <J_Man> ask glick - I agree with you!
[09:17] <mo0se> hengest: nope, nothing.
[09:18] <holycow>  mo0se via chipset? sblive?
[09:18] <Will> can I run Opera browser in ubuntu 64bits
[09:18] <hengest> didja try the oss one
[09:18] <Will> ?
[09:18] <mo0se> no idea what you just said, holycow.
[09:18] <joycetick> fujitsu, its still not there
[09:18] <holycow> what kind of sound card do you have mo0se
[09:18] <Anusien> Here is my menu.lst for GRUB.  What is wrong with it that GRUB won't work?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15110
[09:18] <mo0se> hengest: yup, and i got silence.
[09:18] <J_Man> Will - possibly, but I doubt it.  Depends on if it was compiled static or dynamic
[09:18] <Fujitsu> joycetick, network-admin should run the thing.
[09:18] <hengest> mo0se: did it give an error
[09:18] <mo0se> holycow: i think it's a sigmatel.. or something?
[09:19] <J_Man> ok....*grumbles at the new dapper installer*
[09:19] <mo0se> hengest: nope. no error.
[09:19] <Will> statically compiled it is I believe
[09:19] <joycetick> it comes up with the network settings, but theres still no wireless connection there
[09:19] <mo0se> hengest: just tested and got no sound. that's all.
[09:19] <Ratzilla> how do i set universal shortkeys?
[09:19] <hengest> mo0se: an error for trying the alsa one
[09:19] <J_Man> will - try it...but no guarantees - if it looks for any 32-bit libs on the system, it won't find them
[09:19] <mo0se> hengest: oh wait, for the default input i get an error with the oss.
[09:19] <glick> ic56, its a potential system vulnerability
[09:19] <J_Man> you can find out easily after you install it by running ldd on the opera binary
[09:19] <glick> thats why
[09:19] <ic56> Anusien: looking now at your grub config
[09:20] <Will> thanks J_Man
[09:20] <Anusien> ic56: thanks
[09:20] <mo0se> hengest: nope, no error for the alsa one.
[09:20] <joycetick> fujitsu, it comes up with the network settings, but theres still no wireless connection there
[09:20] <Fujitsu> joycetick, that's odd.
[09:20] <holycow> okay i guess i haveto reinstall alsa and esd
[09:20] <Will> I'm about to download Ubuntu iso so I have to choose
[09:20] <Madpilot> glick, by default, Ubuntu doesn't have ~/bin, and I"m pretty sure it's not in the default $PATH
[09:20] <glick> the system should ALWAYS check for commands in system directories first
[09:20] <ic56> glick: I don't see how that is a vulnerability.  It is the standard way of running things in the unix world.
[09:20] <holycow> what package contains esd? apt cache doesn't seem clear on that
[09:20] <J_Man> glick - no, it shouldn't
[09:20] <Will> I'm not going for 64bits then
[09:20] <hengest> mo0se: didja get sound when clicking test for the alsa one?
[09:20] <MyNameIsNotBob> Does anyone know how to get Enlightenment DR 17 running on Dapper?
[09:20] <J_Man> user-defined stuff should come before system stuff
[09:20] <Fujitsu> glick, on none of my systems is it in the default PATH.
[09:20] <mo0se> hengest: not at all.
[09:20] <holycow> hengest, no he didn't
[09:21] <glick> Madpilot, no, but i  add one, and put a malicious ls program into it and then someone comes and sudos and runs ls they could get screwed up the corn hole
[09:21] <holycow> hengest, infact he isn't the only one with the exact sam eproblem ... theres a ton of people not getting any sound despite modules being loaded and sound cards being detected
[09:21] <mo0se> oh wait.
[09:21] <ic56> glick: you have it backwards.  You want your *personal* ~/bin to override system defaults so you can write wrappers that provide the interfaces you want.
[09:21] <Madpilot> glick, that's why it doesn't exist by default, and isn't in the default $PATH...
[09:21] <J_Man> a - if someone can get into your system to add something into ~/bin - you're screwed anyway
[09:21] <Anusien> glick: That requires someone sudoing into you
[09:21] <mo0se> now i get an error with the oss.
[09:21] <glick> basically it should be PATH="$PATH":~/bin
[09:21] <hengest> try going to system -> prefs -> sounds
[09:21] <mo0se> it says resource busy or not available.
[09:21] <ydnar> what is the daemon-tools / alcohol 120% equivalent for linux?
[09:22] <J_Man> b - noone should be allowed sudo unless YOU, as the system admin, give it to them
[09:22] <Anusien> ic56: it's all added automatically except for the part I notate
[09:22] <mo0se> now i don't get an error.
[09:22] <mo0se> confusing...
[09:22] <mo0se> heh.
[09:22] <J_Man> remember, ubuntu only sets your first user you create at installation with sudo access
[09:22] <hengest> mo0se: have you got rhythmbox or any other media app open
[09:22] <ic56> glick: perhaps you are confusing this with a common security hole which is putting "." in the /home/ic/arch/i586-Debian-3.1/bin:/home/ic/bin:/home/ic/bintmp:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin/mh:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games -- that should never be in the path and *definitely* should not be before any other directories.
[09:22] <mo0se> hengest: no. made sure i closed those. all i have are gaim, firefox, and sound preferences.
[09:22] <ic56> glick: perhaps you are confusing this with a common security hole which is putting "." in the $PATH -- that should never be in the path and *definitely* should not be before any other directories.
[09:22] <ic56> (oops!)
[09:23] <Anusien> ic56 :P
[09:23] <mo0se> holycow: why am i in sound preferences? :-P
[09:23] <holycow> no idea, that won't do shit
[09:23] <J_Man> ok...experts - if I did a clean install of breezy from one of my ubuntu CD's...and then upgraded to dapper
[09:23] <glick> ic56, its the same difference
[09:23] <mo0se> hahahah. nice.
[09:23] <J_Man> would I still have a fairly clean system (no dregs from breezy hanging around)?
[09:24] <mo0se> sigh... and i was liking ubuntu too...
[09:24] <KenSentMe> Hi, i'm using avidemux to put my avi videos on a video dvd. What format should i choose, MPEG PS A+V or MPEG TS A+V, and how do i burn that on a dvd?
[09:24] <holycow> mo0se, well shit happens, it didn't cost you anything
[09:24] <docta_v> J_Man: yes
[09:24] <mo0se> :-(
[09:24] <Elko> J_Man: why don't you just try and find out, I'm sure you're used to making a mess of things ;)
[09:24] <hengest> mo0se: in sound prefs, does any sound card show up in the thingy at the bottom
[09:24] <holycow> mo0se, however you should note that a) your not the only one with the same problem and b) therefore there must be a fix
[09:24] <J_Man> Elko!
[09:24] <J_Man> LTNS!
[09:24] <mo0se> hengest: it says hda intel.
[09:24] <J_Man> I remember you!
[09:24] <ic56> glick: no, it's different because you *own* ~/bin but "." could be owned by anyone.
[09:25] <roh> KenSentMe dvd should be system stream, so try PS
[09:25] <roh> TS is only used on dvb-transmissions
[09:25] <hengest> well then it's at least picking it up
[09:25] <roh> or atsc
[09:25] <glick> ic56, here is how it goes down, i put my own version of sudo into my bin, that collets your password
[09:25] <glick> ic56, what do you think of that then?
[09:25] <patrick_> woo i got it all to work! i reinstalled ubuntu :)
[09:25] <roh> KenSentMe you can try to burn the dvd with gnomebaker i think.. but never tried.
[09:25] <Binsy_> glick: that requires someone to be logged in as you and then sudo as you
[09:26] <patrick_> there is no online update for the new ubuntu from breezy badger right?
[09:26] <J_Man> glick - what stops you, as the sysadmin, from putting your own version into the system directories?
[09:26] <J_Man> patrick - check the wiki
[09:26] <ic56> glick: it's *your* bin.  Others cannot accidentally stumble into it so they aren't vulnerable.
[09:26] <mo0se> it worked a long time ago when i had breezybadger kubuntu.
[09:26] <J_Man> there's a whole page on upgrading from breezy to dapper
[09:26] <SJOYCE> fujitsu, what do u think i should do
[09:26] <holycow> does anyone know what package contains esd? i need to reinstall it but apt cache isn't exactly clear on what package it is
[09:26] <patrick_> ah okay thanks J_Man
[09:26] <KenSentMe> roh: ok, i think gnomebaker doesn't do video dvds, so i use k3b.
[09:26] <nadjyla> hello
[09:27] <holycow> mo0se, it worked in dapper beta too just before dapper final release
[09:27] <SJOYCE> fujitsu, its joycetick, its saying my username is in use
[09:27] <Binsy_> KenSentMe: What are you trying to do?  I still haven't found good dvd-video software
[09:27] <holycow> mo0se, i waited until today to upgrade and it worked until about an hour ago
[09:27] <Binsy_> holycow: try searching synaptic for esd
[09:27] <roh> KenSentMe ah.. is see.. i only burn dvd from the commandline and never burn video.. so i dunno that ;)
[09:27] <mo0se> oh. i didn't have dapper beta.
[09:27] <KenSentMe> Binsy_: burn my avi's on a dvd
[09:27] <Fujitsu> SJOYCE, ask somebody else about your problem.
[09:27] <holycow> mo0se, there was some change somewhere in the final that affected this
[09:27] <mo0se> if you solve it, holycow, can you help me? :-P
[09:27] <Binsy_> KenSentMe: good luck.  I have some software that does it that I haven't gotten to work yet
[09:27] <holycow> mo0se, i think there was a kernel upgrade that affected my video card too but that was easily fixed
[09:28] <SJOYCE> fujitsu, ok thanks anyway
[09:28] <poje> Does anyone know how to use network-manager-gnome?
[09:28] <carlfk> I am runnign dapper, I am on a wpa wifi, but I have to run wpa_supplicant to get associated.  anyone know how how to make that happen automagicly?
[09:28] <Fujitsu> poje, yep.
[09:28] <Fujitsu> poje, what's it doing?
[09:28] <holycow> mo0se, i'll post on forums .. no idea what might be going on, but this is the same shit we had last time, only last release no one had proper access to floppies and usb disks :/
[09:28] <holycow> heh
[09:28] <Fujitsu> carlfk, install network-manager-gnome.
[09:28] <patrick_> i cant fint that page, could you link me?
[09:28] <holycow> thus why i use debian for servers :-o
[09:28] <gr33npho3nix> hey, i'm trying to compile gaim beta from source and it works on my breezy machine but not on my dapper, it cliams gtk2+ is not installed when it is
[09:28] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell patrick_ about upgrade
[09:29] <gr33npho3nix> anyone have any experience or ideas?
[09:29] <Fujitsu> patrick_, please see the message from ubotu.
[09:29] <boxemall> hi you freaks out there! does anyone know where my sound has gone?
[09:29] <Fujitsu> gr33npho3nix, even the dev package?
[09:29] <ic56> /msg Anusien that's ill
[09:29] <patrick_> thanks Fujitsu
[09:29] <patrick_> :)
[09:29] <KenSentMe> roh: should i give the files i get from avidemux a certain extension?
[09:29] <SJOYCE> i have a wireless problem in xubuntu, when using the live cd i can access my wireless connection fine but once i installed xubuntu the wireless connection settings are not there anymore
[09:29] <boxemall> after fresh install no sound which has worked before
[09:29] <mo0se> boxemall hello!
[09:29] <gr33npho3nix> Fujitsu: yeah
[09:29] <mo0se> i have no idea.
[09:29] <Fujitsu> No problem.
[09:29] <mo0se> :-P
[09:29] <Fujitsu> gr33npho3nix, you /sure/?
[09:29] <Cheshirc> i'm having the hwclock adjtime localtime prob ..(xbunutu started 6.06beta >>to dapper)   anyone got a clue for me ? .. clock is 7 hours off
[09:29] <`Chip`> How come whan I try to install ubuntu using the Alternative CD and install OEM it asks during the install for user password but no User credentials?
[09:29] <ic56> is the guy who wanted to eliminate the screensaver still here?
[09:29] <gr33npho3nix> it looks like it missing ac_nonexistant.h
[09:29] <Cheshirc> so when i boot normally ? system time says it's 7 hours earlier than it really is ... i do an ntp time update .. clock looks good but the hwclock is then set incorectly
[09:29] <roh> KenSentMe you have to see what k3b needs as input
[09:29] <gr33npho3nix> but i can't seem to find that anywhere
[09:29] <Fujitsu> Cheshirc, are you UTC+7?
[09:29] <mo0se> i think i'll be off to sleep.
[09:29] <poje> Fujitsu: I installed the package (no idea _why_, someone was like "yeah it's great" as I was busy getting mplayerplug-in going, but I digress) - it's installed and (apparently?) going, but I don't know how to use it per se
[09:30] <mo0se> later everyoooneee.
[09:30] <hengest> cya
[09:30] <carlfk> Fujitsu: apt-get says E: Couldn't find package network-manager-gnome.
[09:30] <Cheshirc> i thought pacific
[09:30] <Fujitsu> poje, can you set the icon in the notification area?
[09:30] <Fujitsu> !info network-manager-gnome dapper
[09:30] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: (network management framework (GNOME Frontend)), section net, is optional. Version: 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), Packaged size: 234 kB, Installed size: 1556 kB
[09:31] <poje> Fujitsu: no I don't see anything in my notification
[09:31] <holycow> holy hell! look at all the stuff that gets removed with libesdf?
[09:31] <holycow> libesd0 even
[09:31] <holycow> holy smokes, why does evolution depend on libesd?
[09:31] <holycow> gedit?
[09:31] <holycow> thats ridiculous
[09:31] <poje> Fujitsu: when it installed I saw some output about DHCP cycling, so I just figured it was already on like when installed openssh-server
[09:31] <Fujitsu> poje, please log in and out.
[09:31] <skb> It controls the audio system.
[09:32] <Fujitsu> poje, out and in, sorry.
[09:32] <holycow> skb, yes and what the hell does evolution haveto do with sound? :)
[09:32] <poje> Fujitsu: ahh, kay - I don't have my wifi card in at the moment, I was just asking for future use
[09:32] <Fujitsu> holycow, it plays sounds?
[09:32] <skb> It's Evolution. Its the nature of the thing to spread until it uses every single system. ;)
[09:32] <poje> I haven't attempted the great wifi quest yet
[09:32] <boxemall> who of you guys is so much into hardware that he could help me out?
[09:32] <holycow> evolution doesn't play sound, gedit doesn't play sound, stop that you gits :)
[09:32] <poje> skb: that is true
[09:32] <Fujitsu> boxemall, just ask.
[09:32] <SJOYCE> i have a wireless problem in xubuntu, when using the live cd i can access my wireless connection fine but once i installed xubuntu the wireless connection settings are not there anymore
[09:33] <Binsy_> ic56: so it's not the winXP entry in menu.lst anyway
[09:33] <carlfk> Fujitsu: duh... I cut/pasted the . too.  now I get network-manager-gnome is already the newest version.
[09:33] <boxemall> is there a way of getting sound working with 4front technologies "original OSS" drivers?
[09:33] <ic56> Binsy_: ok
[09:33] <Fujitsu> `Chip`, it'll ask for a username and password when you bootup. That's what OEM does.
[09:33] <Cheshirc> Fujitsu ; i thuoght pacific was like UTC+14 or something
[09:33] <Binsy_> ic56: i #ed out the lines I added for WinXP and I had the same problem.  Black screen with blinking underscore character
[09:33] <Fujitsu> Cheshirc, I wouldn't know.
[09:33] <boxemall> fujitsu - remember me? i was here a few days ago. you and someone called crimsun tried to help me with my sound problem
[09:33] <Flannel> Cheshirc: no, -7
[09:33] <carlfk> Fujitsu:  I do have an icon up by the clock, but it says "no network connections"
[09:34] <Fujitsu> carlfk, aha. That's it.
[09:34] <`Chip`> Hi Fujitsu, it didn't ask me to enter in a Full Name and username... it just went to password.
[09:34] <dou213> what's that OEM meaning?
[09:34] <Binsy_> ic56: although the harddrive light is lit
[09:34] <Flannel> Cheshirc: erm, -8 for PST, -7 for PDT.
[09:34] <Fujitsu> `Chip`, why'd you do an OEM installation?
[09:34] <Ratzilla> my gaim icon disappeared...where can i check all the system tray icons?
[09:34] <`Chip`> Cuz I am having issues installing it
[09:34] <pc05_> hello
[09:34] <`Chip`> thought I would give it a try
[09:34] <poje> Ratzilla: /usr/share/pixmaps/
[09:34] <Fujitsu> `Chip`, don't use OEM installation unless you're an OEM.
[09:34] <boxemall> fujitsu, i did a fresh install of (now xubuntu) and still have no sound.
[09:35] <Cheshirc> seems to be a clue there, thanks
[09:35] <`Chip`> Gotcha..Thanks! I am using the text install
[09:35] <Ratzilla> poje: thanks
[09:35] <dou213> Fujitsu, what does OEM mean? if he's an OEM = what?
[09:35] <ic56> Binsy_: does the default entry (0) work?
[09:35] <holycow> original equipment manufacturer
[09:35] <holycow> !oem
[09:35] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, holycow
[09:35] <boxemall> it is a problem through the ubuntu (ubuntu,kubuntu and xubuntu) world. no distro does work on my machine
[09:35] <holycow> oem is used by people that sell computers
[09:35] <Fujitsu> dou213, Original Equipment Manufacturer.
[09:35] <Fujitsu> Yes, holycow.
[09:35] <Binsy_> ic56: no, it didn't boot
[09:36] <dou213> aham, ok thx
[09:36] <ic56> Binsy_: ok then, maybe initrd doesn't exist.
[09:36] <`Chip`> well guys I am off for the night
[09:36] <holycow> you want to install ubuntu in such a way that i forces the user to pick their own user/pass at the beginning so that you don't have a default factory pass which would be easily exploited
[09:36] <`Chip`> thanks for all your help!
[09:36] <holycow> which is what oem does
[09:36] <Fujitsu> Bye, `Chip`.
[09:36] <Binsy_> ic56: okay, so what do I ened to do?
[09:36] <dou213> and why would somebody do this OEM installation then?
[09:36] <Mysta> when i enable universe (in source.list) am I also enabling multiverse? Or, is that diffrent line i need to uncomment???
[09:36] <ic56> Binsy_: hang on a minute
[09:36] <Fujitsu> Mysta, it's differnet.
[09:36] <Fujitsu> *different.
[09:36] <Will> another question, will I be able to run xorg with propietarie driver of nvidia on ubuntu 64 bits?
[09:37] <Madpilot> Mysta, add 'multiverse' right after 'universe' in your sources.list to enable them both
[09:37] <inrelief> hey guys, i just updated to dapper and my wireless card is now listed under 'eth1' and not wlan0
[09:37] <quaxsphinx> i cant shutdown my system ..."will now halt" then hangs out
[09:37] <inrelief> any suggestions?
[09:37] <Mysta> Fujitsu: ooh, so its not there @ all, and I have to add it, correct?
[09:37] <joycetick_> is there anyone here that can help me with wireless in xubuntu
[09:37] <quaxsphinx> anyone knows about it
[09:37] <Fujitsu> Mysta, yep.
[09:37] <Binsy_> ic56: why do you think it's initrd and not a GRUB problem?
[09:37] <ic56> Binsy_: there's a way to get grub to do a syntax check on a config file -- look for trouble before you try to reboot with it.  Did you try that?
[09:37] <gr33npho3nix> ubotu: tel gr33npho3nix about pastebin
[09:37] <Fujitsu> quaxsphinx, that's a known issue.
[09:37] <ubotu> gr33npho3nix: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:38] <Binsy_> ic56: i know nothing about this
[09:38] <gr33npho3nix> ubotu: tell gr33npho3nix about pastebin
[09:38] <Fujitsu> quaxsphinx, it's just not powering off. It's fine to switch it off once it says that.
[09:38] <ic56> Binsy_: I think /boot/initrd.img either doesn't exist or is the wrong version for your kernel.
[09:38] <ic56> Binsy_: check up on that while I look into grub CLI options.
[09:38] <quaxsphinx> sorry i didnt understand
[09:38] <Binsy_> ic56: thanks.  as soon as LiveCD comes up, I'll see if I can check
[09:39] <tocker> paging einZtein
[09:39] <quaxsphinx> fujitsu?
[09:39] <dou213> quaxsphinx, when that message appears, you can press the power button until the pc is shut down
[09:39] <patrick_> can you have ubot link me again
[09:39] <patrick_> ubotu
[09:39] <quaxsphinx> it does not work
[09:39] <Fujitsu> patrick_, to what?
[09:40] <tocker> paging einZtein
[09:40] <poje> I still don't know why win32 apps list themselves by manufacturer and linux/OSX apps are listed by program functionality
[09:40] <patrick_> dapper update from breezy
[09:40] <Fujitsu> quaxsphinx, you need to hold down the power button until it turns the power off.
[09:40] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell patrick_ about upgrade
[09:40] <patrick_> thank you
[09:40] <quaxsphinx> yes but does not work friend
[09:40] <poje> "hmmm I can't remember which company produced FEAR, let me spend 3 minutes searching all of my menus for it"
[09:40] <Fujitsu> poje, yeah/
[09:40] <tocker> paging fender_
[09:40] <poje> patrick_: still haven't moved to Dapper?
[09:41] <joycetick> is there anyone here that can help me with wireless in xubuntu
[09:41] <Binsy_> poje: I resorted mine according to Games/Internet/Media/Utilities
[09:41] <skippy81> Fear, rockstar at a guess
[09:41] <quaxsphinx> ok i must leave now thanks for your help Fujitsu
[09:41] <patrick_> no i have the old breezy cds
[09:41] <patrick_> so i reinstalled that
[09:41] <patrick_> and now am going to update :)
[09:41] <quaxsphinx> and thank you too dou213
[09:41] <Fujitsu> Bye, quaxsphinx.
[09:41] <Morrowyn> i only miss games on ubuntu at the moment, a pity only a few triple A titles are made for linux
[09:41] <Morrowyn> :-/
[09:41] <Zenethian> Is there a way to change the module load order?
[09:41] <patrick_> but poje, the problems i was having before are not problems anymore
[09:42] <patrick_> so thank you for your help earlier
[09:42] <Zenethian> I'd like snd-emu10k1 to load before snd-usb-audio.
[09:42] <poje> Morrowyn: if I could play Battlefield 2 on linux I would move my desktop solely over to Dapper
[09:42] <skippy81> what i want to know is why nonone has extracted the bare minimum environment for playing games from windows
[09:42] <poje> patrick_: I doubt I helped much, but yer welcome :)
[09:42] <Morrowyn> same count for oblivion, guildwars and lots of other games
[09:42] <poje> Binsy_: I don't have that kind of effort in me :(
[09:42] <Binsy_> poje: :P
[09:42] <Morrowyn> skippy81, aint that the xbox?
[09:42] <skippy81> surely you could make a hacked XP which existed soley for games with no overhead
[09:42] <poje> Morrowyn: yeah but I play Bf2 and CS - one I can live without, one...not really
[09:43] <skippy81> lol Morrowyn, you could be right there
[09:43] <Madpilot> skippy81, yes, but MS would probably object to your 'hacked up XP'
[09:43] <poje> skippy81: I play Bf2 enough where I would be rebooting to switch pretty often
[09:43] <Binsy_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:43] <poje> And I am lazy
[09:43] <Morrowyn> i think you might wanna have a look at the XP N (no media stuff)
[09:43] <Morrowyn> or hack it yourself
[09:43] <boxemall> i can't even understand that my hardware is not supported. i don't even have "new" hardware.
[09:43] <skippy81> Madpilot: its like BartPE though, i doubt they could stop you if you had a license
[09:43] <OvrDriver> poje try www.transgaming.com
[09:43] <skippy81> although im not an expert at intellectual property law :( so im not too sure
[09:44] <Morrowyn> cedega, is that even worth trying?
[09:44] <OvrDriver> yea
[09:44] <Morrowyn> i mean what are the framerates
[09:44] <OvrDriver> better than ever
[09:44] <Morrowyn> since there is overhead of converting dx to opengl
[09:44] <Frogzoo> !tell Morrowyn about wineapp
[09:44] <skippy81> I dont trust cadega, the payment method sucks imo
[09:44] <inrelief> hey guys - so i'm a little puzzled by my newfound wireless fiasco.  the card is still recognized, only now at eth1 and not wlan0, however, when i go to configure it, it doesn't see any wireless networks..?
[09:44] <inrelief> it worked fine w/breezy, dapper however doesn't seem to happy
[09:45] <boxemall> and no one could help me so far. it seems that its gonna be a very short linux experience for me,... :-(
[09:45] <joycetick> is there anyone here that can help me with wireless in xubuntu
[09:45] <gdb> boxemall: :-(
[09:45] <skippy81> boxemall, what is your hardware?
[09:45] <skippy81> and what wont work?
[09:45] <inrelief> ohyeh, and i've got a broadcom chipset
[09:46] <inrelief> using windows drivers via ndis wrapper
[09:46] <ic56> Binsy_: why so many entries in your menu.lst?  Many seem only duplicates and could be removed.
[09:46] <Mysta> Madpilot: about the repositories, it currently say deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe, do i just add multiverse to the end of that line?
[09:46] <Morrowyn> yup
[09:46] <Madpilot> Mysta, exactly
[09:46] <patrick_> so updating to dapper deletes the 3rd party software?
[09:46] <Mysta> alright! thx
[09:46] <Anusien> ic56: I don't know, they were there automatically
[09:46] <Zenethian> Is there a way to change the module load order?  I'd like snd-emu10k1 to load before snd-usb-audio.
[09:46] <boxemall> skippy81, i have amd athlon 1 Ghz on asus a7v (via kt133) with geforce5700 with terratec dmx6fire (ice1712) which does not work.
[09:46] <Schalken> whats DRI?
[09:46] <Schalken> !DRI
[09:46] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Schalken
[09:47] <poje> OvrDriver: it looks like Bf2 is barely working, if at all :(
[09:47] <skippy81> boxemall:  and what is the problem? cant install? where does it stop?
[09:47] <ic56> Binsy_: ok, let's recap.  When you reboot, you get a dark blank screen.  No menu is displayed.  Then you hit "c" as I suggested and then what happens?
[09:47] <OvrDriver> i get 50 fps
[09:47] <Anusien> ic56: nothing.  I hit ESC, 'c', enter, and nothing happens
[09:48] <Morrowyn> Zenethian, not really sure, but you could try /etc/modules or man /etc/modules
[09:48] <Morrowyn> maybe that gives some hints on hw to do that
[09:48] <ic56> Binsy_: did you try commenting out "hiddenmenu"?
[09:48] <poje> OvrDriver: in Bf2?
[09:48] <OvrDriver> yep
[09:48] <Morrowyn> on ubuntu?
[09:48] <Schalken> whats DRI? :p
[09:48] <OvrDriver> nope on redhat
[09:48] <Morrowyn> direcr rendering input
[09:48] <Morrowyn> iirc
[09:49] <OvrDriver> tired of redhat
[09:49] <Anusien> ic56: no, not yet.  did you figure out how to check syntax?
[09:49] <Schalken> Morrowyn, is that needed for hardware acceleration of OpenGL?
[09:49] <Anusien> ic56: but I did try hitting 'ESC'
[09:49] <Morrowyn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Rendering_Infrastructure
[09:49] <poje> OvrDriver: huh...and how much is the subscription? (also, do you stop getting updates if you unsubscribe or does it kill everything?)
[09:49] <ic56> Binsy_: no luck w/ syntax checking yet.
[09:49] <Morrowyn> have a rewad on that one
[09:49] <joycetick> when running the xubuntu live cd i can access my wireless network fine but once i install it there are no wireless settings?, is there something that i have to install?
[09:49] <Morrowyn> and no, you need   load "glx"   for opengl
[09:50] <boxemall> skippy81, no matter which derivate of ubuntu i use (x,k or u) i does install and recognize my hardware (soundcard) but i don't have sound after it boots. right away at login screen i have a lopped sound. just the way like it wants to play but hangs an restarts like on old vinyl.
[09:50] <OvrDriver> 5 a month and everything still works
[09:50] <glick> hey how do i add a crontab entry that runs as root if there is not root account?
[09:50] <glick> not = no
[09:51] <Morrowyn> boxemall, have  a look at
[09:51] <Morrowyn> alsamixer
[09:51] <Morrowyn> maybe its all muted
[09:51] <ic56> Anusien: ls -l .../boot and figureout what /boot/initrd.img maps too.  Is it a symlink?
[09:51] <Schalken> Morrowyn: but "glxinfo | grep direct" says I am rendering through Mesa, do you know how I can turn on hardware acceleration? I thought I might need DRI for it.
[09:51] <joycetick> when running the xubuntu live cd i can access my wireless network fine but once i install it there are no wireless settings?, is there something that i have to install?
[09:51] <ic56> glick: there *is* a root account -- it just doesn't have a password
[09:51] <Elko> omg! no root passwd!!
[09:51] <Morrowyn> you could try turning off dri, which i always do
[09:52] <roh> hm.. how do i add a bugtracker issue to the dapper-rnel?
[09:52] <Frogzoo> glick: who said there's no root account? o_O
[09:52] <glick> ic56, so how can root run a crontab
[09:52] <Schalken> Morrowyn: okay I'll give that a shot.
[09:52] <ic56> glick: you have two choices: either put your entry in /etc/crontab or else "sudo su" to become root and then use crontab to create private crontab for the root user.
[09:52] <roh> i'm logged into launchpad, but i can only see bugs
[09:52] <Frogzoo> glick: sudo crontab -e        should do it
[09:52] <Morrowyn> i have  Load Glcore  and load dri  commented out, and only have load glx in my xorg.conf  (im using the nvidia 3rd party drivers)
[09:52] <glick> ic56, and crontab executes its things even if your not logged in right?
[09:53] <Morrowyn> when you are on ati, it might be different, i kinda avoid ati like the plague when it comes to linux
[09:53] <boxemall> morrowyn, right now i have xubuntu running. i can't even acces alsamixer. it says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[09:53] <Mysta> if I'm logged into two SSH sessions, and I want to log off one of the accounts remotely, how do I do that???
[09:53] <Morrowyn> sudo alsamixer
[09:53] <Morrowyn> perhaps?
[09:53] <ic56> glick: correct.  But, if the system is shutdown, the jobs in the crontab won't run.  Unlike windows, crontab won't attempt to catch up when the system boots.
[09:54] <ricardo> hola
[09:54] <ricardo> hi
[09:54] <Frogzoo> glick: cron executes as the user who owns the crontab - cron will run batch jobs as required, as long as cron is running
[09:54] <ricardo> anyone knows how works isapnp tools?
[09:54] <Elko> ic56: that depends on the cron daemon you're using
[09:54] <boxemall> morrowyn, same with sudo prefix
[09:54] <Morrowyn> okies
[09:55] <Anusien> ic56: initrd.img -> initrd.img-2.6.15-23-amd64-k8
[09:55] <ricardo> anyone can help me?
[09:55] <Frogzoo> Elko: is this an advantage of anacron?
[09:55] <ic56> glick: there is an alternate cron that *does* attempt to catch up on missed jobs.  It's called anacron.  Ask Elko about it.
[09:55] <Morrowyn> try sudo alsaconf    , but after that im running out of options
[09:55] <Elko> glick: stay away from me!
[09:55] <ic56> Anusien: and how about the corresponding kernel?
[09:55] <ic56> Elko: :-)
[09:55] <Elko> heh
[09:56] <tuxmaniac> !minimal
[09:56] <ubotu> tuxmaniac: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:56] <Anusien> ic56: what do you mean?
[09:56] <filleokus> Hi
[09:56] <boxemall> morrowyn, it says "sudo: alsaconf: command not found"
[09:56] <ricardo> carlos
[09:56] <ricardo> hola
[09:56] <glick> Elko, ?
[09:56] <Elko> glick: nm
[09:56] <ricardo> sabes como funcionan las isapnptools?
[09:56] <tuxmaniac> !mp3
[09:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:56] <filleokus> Im going to install one server and one desktop, wich iso should i go for? Or must i dl both?
[09:56] <Morrowyn> ok boxemall , im sorry , what type of soundcard do you have anyways?
[09:56] <ic56> Anusien: I mean /boot/vmlinuz  -- what does that symlink to?
[09:57] <Frogzoo> filleokus: I'd recommend the DVD :D
[09:57] <boxemall> it is a terratec dmx6fire (ICE1712 chipset)
[09:57] <Anusien> ic56: vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-amd64-k8
[09:57] <Mysta> anyone?
[09:57] <ricardo> hi?
[09:57] <cge> Is there some documentation on setting up Ubuntu's moinmoin package? I know there is the rather antiquated README.Debian, but I would think there would be better documentation since it is now in main.
[09:57] <skippy81> boxemall have you seen this guide? http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Terratec&card=DMX6Fire&chip=Envy24&module=ice1712#opt
[09:58] <filleokus> Frq
[09:58] <ic56> Anusien: ok, the names match so that looks ok.  Presumably both the symlink targets exist?
[09:58] <filleokus> Frogzoo, where do i get my hands on them?
[09:58] <ricardo> i have a crystal soundcard
[09:58] <Madpilot> Mysta, 'logout'
[09:58] <ricardo> anyone could help me?
[09:58] <carlos> ricardo: no, and please, anything you need to ask here, do it in English, there is an Spanish channel at #ubuntu-es
[09:58] <ricardo> ok
[09:59] <skippy81> boxemall: type "lsmod", you need to have "snd-ice1712" loaded, if it isnt then "sudo modprobe snd-ice1712"
[09:59] <Anusien> ic56: yes
[09:59] <clast> good morning
[09:59] <Morrowyn> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=294112  and http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=169178   boxemall
[10:00] <Anusien> ic56: i'm going to try rebooting with hiddenmenu off
[10:00] <ic56> ricardo: tell us a bit more about your problem -- in one line -- don't spread it over many messages.  I don't know sound but when a question is presented more fully, answers tend to pop up
[10:00] <anfangs> anfangs: sdf
[10:00] <Morrowyn> they discuss your problem, although they seem rather old, weird why they havent fixed this in ubuntu
[10:00] <C_REATiVE_> re
[10:00] <Mysta> Madpilot: thx
[10:00] <Mysta> off to bed, night everyone
[10:00] <ic56> Anusien: wait!
[10:00] <boxemall> skippy81, it says: "FATAL: Module snd_ice1712 not found."
[10:00] <clast> question: do I need the proprietary drivers for my nforce4 chipset? what are the advantages of them?
[10:01] <Morrowyn> boxemall,   you might wanna  sudo apt-get install alsa-tools  alsa-tools-gui
[10:01] <ic56> Anusien: try removing the excess menu items.  It iwll make debuggin easier.  Make a backup copy and delete teh following stanzas:
[10:01] <Morrowyn> and follow the "poor" instructions on the forum
[10:01] <skippy81> boxemall its "snd-ice1712" not snd_ice
[10:01] <Binsy_> ic56: yeah, that didn't do it
[10:02] <Morrowyn> anyways, food and showertime for me
[10:02] <skippy81> its definately included with dapper boxemall
[10:02] <Morrowyn> bbl
[10:02] <skippy81> i can see it on my disk
[10:02] <nevyn> clast: more code in kernel the audio code for the proprietary drivers does in kernel reverb and hall effects
[10:02] <Binsy_> ic56: before I rebooted I made a new copy of menu.lst with only the main Ubuntu entry and the XP entry like in this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:02] <Morrowyn> skippy81, maybe boxemall needs to add that in /etc/modules or something?
[10:02] <Morrowyn> the snd_ice1712 thing
[10:02] <clast> nevyn, k, i don't need that. performance wise anything noticable?
[10:03] <skippy81> yeah but he should be able to modprobe it
[10:03] <skippy81> i can, just tested it lol
[10:03] <skippy81> so i have a random driver loaded :)
[10:03] <ic56> Anusien: gah, I can't handle counting stanzas in firefox.
[10:03] <nevyn> clast: I would be supprised if they were faster than the free drivers.
[10:03] <ic56> anyone know how to make firefox do a clean page-down -- no overlap with previous lines?
[10:03] <clast> nevyn, okay :) thank you. that's all I wanted to know :)
[10:04] <skippy81> Morrowyn:  i think this guide should prove that it will work :) http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Terratec&card=DMX6Fire&chip=Envy24&module=ice1712#intro
[10:04] <Knelix> Xubuntu isn't recognizing the ethernet card on this old Dell....
[10:04] <ic56> Binsy_: how about you show me the nice clean menu.lst that you're currently using?
[10:04] <NiklasH_work> hi, anyone know how i can remove the Alt-Ins shortcut inc xfce4 for adding a desktop? It's overriding a shortcut i need in an app
[10:04] <Binsy_> ic56: bringing liveCD back up and will try the new file.  How do I know, by the way, whether it's the menu.lst or GRUB's setup?
[10:04] <ic56> Binsy_: menu.lst *is* GRUB's setup.
[10:05] <skippy81> Binsy_ are you the same person as Anusien?
[10:05] <Binsy_> ic56: what I mean is, to make sure the system is set up properly to use grub.
[10:05] <Binsy_> skippy81: yeah.  Anusien is the LiveCD computer, this is another one I have handy
[10:05] <Anusien2> should have just done that
[10:05] <skippy81> Anusien2:  i think i spoke to you earlier
[10:05] <skippy81> will grub not boot you ubuntu?
[10:06] <skippy81> if it wont i think i know the solution
[10:06] <Anusien2> skippy81: i was just giving you a headsup because, of course, it was never that easy.  You had pointed me towards the right doc, but the easy way out
 Anusien:  from the live CD you should be able to run "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda" didn't work
[10:06] <filleokus> ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso thats the server install?
[10:06] <Anusien2> skippy81: grub isn't coming up at all
[10:06] <edulix> there's still no #ubuntu+1 ?
[10:06] <ic56> Binsy_: grub reads all its config on the fly -- it's not like lilo.  The only
[10:06] <skippy81> i think i told you something wrong Anusien. you need to install grub from a chroot of your system to make it work well
[10:06] <Anusien2> edulix: #ubuntu+1 is obsolete now that dapper is official
[10:07] <Anusien2> skippy81: I'm here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:07] <Anusien2> ic56: oh, so the bit from the walkthrough that talks about running grub and pointing it at the root partition is just to set up a default config file?
[10:07] <ic56> Binsy_: the only that can go wrong outside of its config files is for the boot sector to not contain the right bootstrap program.
[10:08] <skippy81> basically Anusien, you want to try and chroot onto your hard disk before you install
[10:08] <Anusien2> skippy81: that's done
[10:08] <joycetick> when running the xubuntu live cd i can access my wireless network fine but once i install it there are no wireless settings?, is there something that i have to install?
[10:08] <skippy81> is your linux partition mounted?
[10:09] <Anusien2> skippy81: i mounted the partition, ran a chroot and setup grub
[10:09] <skippy81> oh i see
[10:09] <skippy81> and it didnt work?
[10:09] <Anusien> skippy81: I'm here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:09] <skippy81> thats wierd, are you sure you installed grub to /dev/hda ?
[10:09] <Anusien> skippy81: I believe so.
[10:10] <IVANGOTOY> hallo
[10:10] <Anusien> To confirm, how do I make sure I don't need to mount /boot/ seperately?
[10:10] <edulix> Anusien2: but after dapper, there'll probably another new unstable version right ?=)
[10:10] <Anusien> edulix: but not atm
[10:10] <edulix> oks
[10:10] <skippy81> Anusien you only need to mount boot if its on a seperate partition
[10:10] <IVANGOTOY> my ubuntu normal session won start after upgrading with apt-get
[10:10] <Anusien> skippy81: doesn't appear to be from fdisk -l
[10:11] <IVANGOTOY> is there a proper solution ?
[10:11] <Anusien> ls
[10:11] <edulix> suspend to disk doesn't seem to work for me, should I fill a bug report? with which information?
[10:11] <Anusien> err
[10:11] <skippy81> Anusien yeah almost everyone has boot on same partition as home
[10:11] <edulix> suspend to ram I mean, to disk I haven't tested yet
[10:11] <skippy81> sorry i mean as /
[10:11] <ic56> Anusien: let's go over that webpage you're using.  Under "using the livecd while preserving windows...", items 3-6 work outside teh menu system.
[10:12] <Anusien> ic56: i'm down at the bottom under troubleshooting
[10:12] <ic56> Anusien: they cause grub on a running system, to install a bootloader on the disk.  This bootloader will invoke grub at the next reboot.
[10:12] <joycetick> when running the xubuntu live cd i can access my wireless network fine but once i install xubuntu there are no wireless settings?, is there something that i have to install?
[10:12] <gusawe1> hello !
[10:13] <Anusien> ic56: how does this look: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15111
[10:13] <edulix> btw, does apt already uses deltas to do an apt-get update?
[10:13] <edulix> i've read about that but I'm not sure
[10:13] <Anusien> ic56: although I don't know why it would matter since it appears that the old one I showed you before is what was working originally
[10:14] <Anusien> ic56: Should we start from step one and try it over?
[10:15] <ic56> Anusien: the old one may have worked but it's harder for me to know what's wrong with it.
[10:15] <Anusien> ic56: okay, so should I try booting the new one?
[10:15] <ic56> Anusien: don't boot yet.
[10:16] <Anusien> okay
[10:16] <ic56> Anusien: cat /boot/grub/device.map
[10:16] <Anusien> in the meanwhile should I setup a super grub disk?
[10:16] <ic56> Anusien: actually, you're on live cd so that's mounted elsewhere right?  Where?
[10:16] <Anusien> I'm on a liveCD, but I have the filesystem mounted under /mnt/work and chrooted to /
[10:16] <DBO> anyone got any idea what would cause the notification-daemon to just not produce notifications?
[10:17] <Anusien> It gives me (hd0)   /dev/hda
[10:17] <avis> i get this error when removing packages please help http://pastebin.com/759236
[10:17] <mohrf> hi
[10:17] <ic56> Anusien: device.map looks ok.
[10:17] <answerguy> You live in the Silicon Valley --- with Strata?
[10:18] <ic56> Anusien: can we get rid of "quiet splash" in your config?
[10:19] <avis> apt-get error removing packages gives an i/io warning http://pastebin.com/759236
[10:19] <Anusien> yeah.  Should I do that or just try the new config?
[10:19] <avis> ic56, yes the entries in menu.lst there are some that only have one #  others have ## you can edit one entry and remove splash
[10:19] <avis> be sure to backup menu.lst first
[10:20] <ic56> Anusien: kill the fallback line too.  Don't want variables.
[10:20] <avis> apparently single # entries effect the grub write which is done with update-grub
[10:20] <Anusien2> avis: huh?
[10:21] <avis> he should remove splash
[10:21] <ic56> avis: thanks.  my question was rhetorical -- I was asking Anusien to make it so.
[10:21] <avis> eek
[10:21] <avis> i just learned that today
[10:21] <Anusien> ic56: shoudl I just try this config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15111 ?
[10:22] <jenda> Why is it not possible to choose a selection of screensavers to cycle when using random ones?
[10:22] <jenda> Or is it?
[10:22] <ic56> Anusien: hell no.  Please fix it like I said -- remove "quiet splash" and "fallback"
[10:22] <Anusien> ic56: oh.  I mentioned it and you seemed eager
[10:22] <kholerabb1> I have installed beagle, how do I set it up to work through deskbar?
[10:23] <ic56> Anusien: you can go back to a big complicated config later.  For now, we need to figure out what's wrong.  The simpler the cnofig, the better.
[10:23] <xtraitorx> what does RPM stand for? (in terms of self extracting files)
[10:23] <ic56> Anusien: now, let's go over installing the bootloader.
[10:23] <Anusien> ic56: wait, huh?  I showed you a version with just 2 options
[10:23] <Kwek> hi
[10:23] <Kwek> i need new GPG keys
[10:23] <ic56> Anusien: not at 15111 you didn't!
[10:23] <skb> Redhat Package Manager
[10:24] <skb> It's the RedHat equivalent of a .deb
[10:24] <xtraitorx> skb, thanks :)
[10:24] <boxemall> skippy81 + morrowin, i just synaptic'ed alsa tools and alsa tools gui (envy24control) but when i want to start it it says - "No ICE1712 cards found
[10:24] <boxemall> "
[10:24] <Anusien> ic56: 15111 is much much simpler.  anyway, "#defoptions=quiet splash" means quiet splash is enabled or disabled?
[10:24] <answerguy> .rpm files are a cpio (or compressed cpio) with a variable length header full of Red Hat Packaging meta data
[10:24] <Anusien> ic56: i don't see fallback anywhere
[10:24] <aftertaf> Anusien, enabled. disable it with nosplash
[10:25] <skb> Yeah, it's actually not technically an archive. It explains to the system where to find the package.
[10:25] <answerguy> You can use the rpm2cpio Perl script to skip past the header and pipe the results to cpio if you need to just extract the contents.
[10:25] <Anusien> aftertaf: huh?
[10:25] <answerguy> Or you can use the alien command to convert them into (crude) .deb files.
[10:25] <Anusien> aftertaf: replace that line with "#defoptions=nosplash" ?
[10:25] <[NP] Tangent> alright
[10:26] <[NP] Tangent> time to upgrade to Dapper
[10:26] <[Chameleon] > how do I boot the Dapper installer cd in Text-Mode ?
[10:26] <[NP] Tangent> woohoo
[10:26] <aftertaf> Anusien, splash or nosplash, in #defoptions
[10:26] <ic56> really?  Guys, does ctl-R in firefox cause a reload of the webpage?  I thought it did but Anusien swears he's changed the page and I don't see the changes.
[10:26] <[Chameleon] > graphical installer doesn't support LVM which I require.
[10:26] <answerguy> skp: technically it *is* an archive, with some meta-data wrapped around it.
[10:26] <Madpilot> ic56, Shift+F5 is force reload
[10:26] <kbrosnan> use ctrl + shift + R to force a reload
[10:26] <skb> Gotcha, thanks answerguy :)
[10:26] <basvg> hi all... is it difficult to get composite stuff working in Dapper (I want to achieve `true transperancy' for my urxvt terminals..)
[10:27] <mohrf> i have 2 questions :). at first there is a problem while booting ubuntu lamp server. when grub appears and and the sequence for the normal ubuntu initialisation progress starts the pc makes a reset. i dont know why. its a very old machine 64 mb ram and 200mhz cpu but it works still pretty good? any idea? second problem. i installed ubuntu lamp on vmware then. everythings ok. when i ping the server it works fine. but i think nothing works yet, am i right. so,
[10:27] <answerguy> .deb files are ar (library style archives) containing .tar.gz (or tar.bz2?) and a text file: debian_version? control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz
[10:27] <[Chameleon] > basvg: there are many guies on XGL. It's not that hard. I got it working on my AMD64 system.
[10:27] <guestie> anybody out there willing to help a complete newb with installation?
[10:27] <guestie> im on ubuntu right now
[10:28] <IVANGOTOY> how can be fixed a persistent problem with username and password requirements loop on boot? that happened the first time i upgraded to dapper drake :(
[10:28] <basvg> [Chameleon] : can you recommend a good spot to start reading?
[10:28] <matt_> q
[10:28] <ic56> ctl-shf-R acted same as ctl-R which is it looked like it's reloading but I don't see the stuff that's supposedly there.  shf-F5 seems to be an ignored keystroke
[10:28] <guestie> im at a loss on how to correctly partition my drive for dual boot tho, the info out there is a little difficult to follow
[10:28] <[Chameleon] > basvg: google
[10:28] <basvg> [Chameleon] : *rofl* ok thanks, cu all later :p
[10:28] <kholerabb1> I have beagle - How do I get beagle results in deskbar??
[10:28] <answerguy> guestie How is your drive currently partitioned?
[10:28] <Anusien> ic56: okay, I changed it to "#defoptions=no splash" and changed the kernel definition by removing "quiet splash"
[10:28] <ic56> Anusien: can you please re-upload to a new pastebin page?
[10:28] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell guestie about dualboot
[10:29] <Anusien> ic56: yeah sure
[10:29] <DarkLegacy> Guys, I've just got 120 more GB of HDD space
[10:29] <anfangs_> +
[10:29] <guestie> right now ive got three partitions
[10:29] <DarkLegacy> Giving me a total of 1 TB.
[10:29] <kakalto> can I wrap a program in a different keymap?
[10:29] <answerguy> ubotu: tell answerguy about dualboot
[10:29] <DarkLegacy> Now, what do I do with it? =|
[10:29] <guestie> all of which came with my dell laptop
[10:29] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: sweet. download porn.
[10:29] <DarkLegacy> lmao
[10:29] <Anusien> ic56: Possible alternative: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15112
[10:29] <DarkLegacy> porn
[10:29] <kakalto> like, switch keymap for that program, then switch back after?
[10:29] <Rambo3> !porn
[10:29] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Rambo3
[10:29] <DarkLegacy> roflmao
[10:29] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: r u using LVM?
[10:29] <ic56> DarkLegacy: donate it online:  Setup a mirror.
[10:30] <DarkLegacy> I'm thinking of dual-booting with Ubuntu Server on the extra 120GB drive, or FC5 server
[10:30] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: yeah, ic56 has a good idea there... setup a porn mirror.
[10:30] <Frogzoo> ic56: what we need- a pr0n mirror
[10:30] <kholerabb1> ..Could someone tell me how to use beagle with deskbar?
[10:30] <[Chameleon] > ;-)
[10:30] <[Chameleon] > kholerabb1: no
[10:30] <DarkLegacy> lol
[10:30] <Frogzoo> [Chameleon] : lol - snap
[10:30] <DarkLegacy> A porn mirror
[10:30] <Anusien> ic56: And what we're working with: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15113
[10:30] <ic56> Anusien: dude, are pulling my leg?  15112 is identical to what it was before.  "quiet splash" isn't commented out.
[10:30] <guestie> anybody know of a step-by-step guide to partitioning for dual boot, the wiki is vague and i have no experience with it
[10:30] <pexi> someone have problem for stop a sata hard disk?
[10:30] <Anusien> ic56: 15112 on my screen is much much smaller
[10:31] <Rambo3> !ubotu tell rambo3 about beagle
[10:31] <aftertaf> Anusien, what s the problem with splash?
[10:31] <answerguy> guestie What part is vague?
[10:31] <Misiek|w_szkole> hi [;
[10:31] <nysosym> hi all
[10:31] <guestie> when it says to create the new partitions
[10:31] <Anusien> aftertaf: I'm not seeing grub come up at all.  It just goes to bios then to black
[10:31] <guestie> theres a lot of options
[10:31] <ic56> Anusien: ok, I'm tired and hungry and cranky.  Sorry, I can't handle this frustration.
[10:31] <aftertaf> Anusien, have you enabled the timeout?
[10:31] <Anusien> ic56: I understand.  Thanks for helping
[10:31] <Anusien> aftertaf: it's not that at all
[10:32] <ic56> Anyone wanna help out Anusien with GRUB problems?
[10:32] <Steve|> hey, i recently installed my wlan card on dapper using ndiswrapper and it worked fine after configuring it, but after i reset my computer, it won't recognise the hardware..
[10:32] <nysosym> can anyone help me please, vmware-player load and load but he doesn`t start :( . I have the vmware-player from universe
[10:32] <kholerabb1> !ubutu tell kholerabb1 about beagle
[10:32] <ubotu> kholerabb1: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:32] <DarkLegacy> How do I install Xubuntu on a Ubuntu-desktop enviorment?
[10:32] <answerguy> Do you have any free space on the drive?  (that is ... any space which is not allocated to any of your existing three partitions?
[10:32] <aftertaf> ic56, ill try :)
[10:32] <Anusien> aftertaf: It literally goes immediately to a black screen with just a blinking underscore character
[10:32] <Misiek|w_szkole> DarkLegacy: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:32] <ic56> l8r folks!
[10:32] <Rambo3> Anusienso it doesnt boot at all?
[10:32] <DarkLegacy> I don't have an internet connection on my laptop.
[10:32] <joycetick> when i tried to run the ubuntu livecd it gets up to booting the linux kernel and then stops, anyone know why?
[10:32] <orbin> anyone with a synaptics touchpad and on dapper?
[10:32] <DarkLegacy> That's my second problem, that nobody has answered yet
[10:32] <Anusien> rambo3: nope.  I installed Windows then need to configure grub
[10:33] <Rambo3> Anusiendo you have live cd?
[10:33] <aftertaf> orbin, yes, in the past..... why?
[10:33] <nysosym> can anyone help me please, vmware-player load and load but he doesn`t start :( . I have the vmware-player from universe?????
[10:33] <guestie> answerguy, i just chose to resize one of my paritions to creat some
[10:33] <Anusien> rambo3: on it now
[10:33] <xtraitorx> ggrrr, i am using "root@rich:~# chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-amd64.bin
[10:33] <xtraitorx> ", but it tells me file not found, when its there :( any help?
[10:33] <aftertaf> ahhh Anusien you reinstalled windows after linux?
[10:33] <DarkLegacy> lol
[10:33] <guestie> now ive got 7.35 gigs unallocated
[10:33] <orbin> aftertaf: i had an xorg.conf file w/ my synaptics config but i accidentally deleted it.  my horiz. scroll isnt' working
[10:33] <guestie> i know ive got to make at least 2 new partitions
[10:33] <Rambo3> no like , do you have live cd there where you are so you can boot from live cd
[10:33] <aftertaf> xtraitorx, and without the ./ ?
[10:33] <DarkLegacy> Windows + LInux - Dual boot OK.
[10:33] <guestie> one for swap, one for ubuntu itself
[10:33] <DarkLegacy> Linux + Windows - Good luck
[10:34] <DarkLegacy> :D
[10:34] <Anusien> aftertaf: yeah.  installing linux nixed my windows partition
[10:34] <aftertaf> Anusien, sure about that??? anywa, too late ;)
[10:34] <Anusien> aftertaf: yeah.  it wouldn't resize the partition at first, and then it killed it
[10:34] <DarkLegacy> Lol, the day Windows needs a dual boot for Linux, is the day we win
[10:34] <answerguy> guestie if you go into fdisk and you try to create a new partition ... what message do you get?
[10:34] <aftertaf> Anusien, best bet is to boot to live cd, then chroot to your / and reinstall grub, i think
[10:34] <Rambo3> Anusien do grub-install and add windows amnualy in menu.lst
[10:35] <DarkLegacy> er Linux needs dual boot for Windows*
[10:35] <Anusien> aftertaf: that's the part I'm stuck on
[10:35] <orbin> nvm, i'll see if i can copied it onto a backup cd somewhere
[10:35] <DarkLegacy> Anyway, can anybody help me with my problem?
[10:35] <guestie> answerguy, fdisk? im sorry im using the partitioning thing included in install and havent tried to move past the screen because im unsure of the details of the partitions i need to make
[10:35] <aftertaf> Anusien, so, now no windows, and linux not booting, right?
[10:35] <Anusien> aftertaf: grub-install /dev/hda: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[10:35] <xtraitorx> aftertaf, same again. i assume the ./ points to my desktop?
[10:35] <aftertaf> Anusien, you run chroot?
[10:36] <Anusien> aftertaf: yeah
[10:36] <DarkLegacy> eth0 is missing. *
[10:36] <aftertaf> xtraitorx, nope.... refers to current directory ;)
[10:36] <aftertaf> Anusien, hmmm.
[10:36] <Rambo3> Anusien you need to mount linux partition mkdir /mnt/temp/  && sudo mount /dev/hda2 ? /mnt/temp  , and sudo chroot /mnt/temp/ && sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[10:36] <aftertaf> thx Rambo3 :] 
[10:36] <Anusien> rambo3: i did all that according to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:36] <kholerabb1> Is there a way for deskbar to display beagle results, rather then "Search beagle for [word] "??
[10:37] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: what's your problem again?
[10:37] <xtraitorx> aftertaf, gah, sorry, confusing myself, i still get a file not found, even at ~/Desktop
[10:37] <guestie> answerguy, so you're saying i want a new primary partition?
[10:37] <DarkLegacy> Eth0 is non-existant. There's an ethernet card but no eth0 connection.
[10:37] <answerguy> Yes
[10:37] <aftertaf> xtraitorx, can you see it in console?
[10:37] <answerguy> You want one primary partition to be bootable
[10:37] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: what chipset?
[10:37] <guestie> which is the windows one right now
[10:37] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: got eth1?
[10:37] <answerguy> ... and you want another (probably extended) to be the swap
[10:37] <DarkLegacy> No eth1
[10:37] <aftertaf> DarkLegacy, sudo ifup eth0 gives what?
[10:37] <DarkLegacy> Just modem
[10:37] <guestie> so i want a primary bootable ext3 for ubuntu
[10:37] <answerguy> You can have up to 4 primary partitions
[10:37] <DarkLegacy> Xircom RealPort Ethernet 10/100+Modem 56 GlobalACCESS Adapter (REM56G-100)
[10:38] <guestie> and then an extended partition for the swap?
[10:38] <xtraitorx> aftertaf, got it, file got renamed somewhere *not guilty i swear!*
[10:38] <answerguy> Any time for swap
[10:38] <aftertaf> lol :)
[10:38] <xtraitorx> thanks :D
[10:38] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: so it's some sort of bastard child between an ethernet card and a modem?
[10:38] <answerguy> But you've already got three, so at least two of your primaries are used.
[10:38] <boxemall> how do i start alsaconf when it tells me "command not found"?!?!!?
[10:38] <Rambo3> Anusien i newer tryed one of those , with one did you use?
[10:38] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: what kind of sick person does that?
[10:38] <guestie> fucking dell
[10:38] <guestie> lol
[10:38] <DarkLegacy> It's an ethernet card with two modem ports, and an ethernet port.
[10:38] <Anusien> rambo3: i'm at the bottom
[10:38] <DarkLegacy> :)
[10:39] <answerguy> (one for Windows C: drive, the other to hold the "extended" partition which has your "logical" drives in it)
[10:39] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: get a REAL ethernet card. they're like $6.
[10:39] <DarkLegacy> Not quite an option here
[10:39] <[Chameleon] > why not?
[10:39] <DarkLegacy> Old OLD laptop
[10:39] <DarkLegacy> PCMCIA onlt
[10:39] <DarkLegacy> only*
[10:39] <Anusien2> rambo3: doing the troubleshooting bit
[10:39] <[Chameleon] > so get a real Ethernet PCMCIA card without the 56k bits
[10:39] <poje> DarkLegacy: \m/,
[10:39] <DarkLegacy> The PCMCIA card was working on WIndows 98 :\
[10:40] <[Chameleon] > guess what
[10:40] <[Chameleon] > Linux != Win98
[10:40] <DarkLegacy> It isn't win98
[10:40] <DarkLegacy> Yes, i know
[10:40] <DarkLegacy> lol
[10:40] <Anusien2> fuck it
[10:40] <poje> win98 was also a total piece of crap
[10:40] <[Chameleon] > so if u know, don't give a stupid answer like that.
[10:40] <Rambo3> Anusien2: well does grub-install report eny errors?
[10:40] <Anusien2> rambo3: yeah, I posted
[10:40] <guestie> answerguy did you see my pm?
[10:40] <netgrabber> After some time my approx doesn't work :/
[10:40] <DarkLegacy> Well, what's wrong with the 56k bits on the card?
[10:40] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: what does google have to say about using that PCMCIA poop with Linux?
[10:40] <answerguy> No, guestie I didn't
[10:41] <netgrabber> I get only 404 Not Found
[10:41] <Anusien2> rambo3: grub-install /dev/hda: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[10:41] <poje> answerguy: I don't know if mine is THAT old, but it's only 500mhz and CD only ;d
[10:41] <DarkLegacy> In Breezy, I had eth0
[10:41] <guestie> one more primary, bootable as the main ubuntu drive
[10:41] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: OK, u didn't say that.
[10:41] <guestie> but how do i designate it as such
[10:41] <DarkLegacy> Yes I did
[10:41] <DarkLegacy> I had eth0 in Breezy
[10:41] <DarkLegacy> I have pics too
[10:41] <answerguy> Mine is 500MHz, but with DVD/CD-ROM (no burner)
[10:41] <Steve|> hey, i recently installed my wlan card on dapper using ndiswrapper and it worked fine after configuring it, but after i reset my computer, it won't recognise the hardware.. can anyone help me?
[10:41] <poje> DarkLegacy: I've heard stuff about Dapper shifting net stuff around
[10:41] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: must have been before I got here.
[10:42] <poje> Steve|: can you retrace what you did the first time and make it work?
[10:42] <Rambo3> Anusien2: can you okease check device file in grub/ folder and see if there is anything that doesnt need to be there
[10:42] <answerguy> My wife bought it for me when she worked at "TuxTops" ... one of those few start-ups that tried to make a go at Linux on Laptops
[10:42] <Anusien2> rambo3: how do I do that?
[10:42] <answerguy> She even suggested the name to the founders of the company
[10:42] <Steve|> poje: well.. all i did to make it work was install the driver with dapper and then it would recognise the hardware.. and all i needed to do was configure it.. I tried reinstalling it but to no avail
[10:42] <Rambo3> open with gedit device ordevice file
[10:43] <Anusien2> rambo3: when the livecd comes back up, I'll see
[10:43] <avis> could someone tell me what is wrong with this pastebin ?  (apt-get)  http://pastebin.com/759236
[10:43] <poje> DarkLegacy: I have pics of your mom ;o
[10:43] <amarokker> hi, after i edit the kernel headers, do i need to build them? or do they get configured automatically?
[10:43] <Rambo3> Anusien2: buy that i mean /grub/ folder on mounted partition
[10:43] <DarkLegacy> lol
[10:44] <DarkLegacy> Oh no, not my mom :(
[10:44] <Anusien2> rambo3: you mean /boot/grub ?
[10:44] <xtraitorx> I am following this  (  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava  )  tutorial to get java going, and i've downloaded the AMD64.bin, and i *think* i've modified the subsequent terminal commands to suit, but its still a no-go. any ideas?
[10:44] <DarkLegacy> lmao
[10:44] <lig> how do I get apache to start automatically when I start my computer?
[10:44] <amarokker> anyone?
[10:44] <DarkLegacy> Anyway, even when I did have eth0 on breezy, it couldn't connect to DHCP server on my router
[10:44] <js_> lig: install the apache package
[10:44] <aftertaf> lig, install bum and set apache to run
[10:44] <Anusien2> rambo3: what's more obnoxious is I can't seem to get a CD burner to work to put on super grub disk
[10:44] <lig> it is installed and the current owner and grp is root
[10:45] <answerguy> guestie ... when you use fdisk and you type n[Enter]  from the main menu it asks if you want a primary or extended (if you have any primaries avaiable)
[10:45] <bulltitan> i have to say thanks to micorosft!,......
[10:45] <answerguy> If you don't, but you have an extended (and any free space) it will automatically make a logical.
[10:45] <Surfnkid> yoy
[10:45] <poje> avis: rofl that looks crazy - is xchat-gnome gone? check
[10:45] <James-C> Question: My /etc/hostname on a Ubuntu server keeps resetting (on any reboot) to have contents of "127.0.0.1 machinename" So then anything that is based on /etc/hostname (like prompts, login, uname, etc.) keep coming out as 127 or 127.0.0.1 instead of the machine's name.  Doesn't seem to affect anything it is running, but a bit disconcerting. Suggestions?
[10:45] <bulltitan> because of 'em i'm using kubuntu
[10:45] <answerguy> THAT'S WHY I ASKED what does it do when you try to create a new partition in fdisk.
[10:45] <avis> nope i can still install it.  it was a very nice version of xchat for gnome
[10:46] <Surfnkid> can anyone tell me where i can download initrd.img-2.6.12-9-686 ?
[10:46] <guestie> answerguy im not sure what fdisk is since im doing this all from the install wizard lol
[10:46] <answerguy> Since you couldn't clearly describe your partitioning, I was asking a question that would tell me (indirectly) what was up.
[10:46] <answerguy> Don't
[10:46] <Surfnkid> my internet just came on after 2 days, how appropriate
[10:46] <poje> avis: I meant if it actually got removed like you wanted successfully
[10:46] <guestie> sorry
[10:46] <DarkLegacy> Oh, I think I know what the problem is
[10:46] <answerguy> If you won't follow my instructions then you should ask someone else for help.
[10:46] <DarkLegacy> In Device Manager, my PCMCIA card is listed wrong
[10:46] <kakalto> how can I change keymap from the console, with one command?
[10:47] <guestie> can you tell me how to get to fdisk?
[10:47] <avis> well the output was in the pastebin so it was removed unless the error message meant something was leftt behind or fubar
[10:47] <guestie> ill do it then
[10:47] <DarkLegacy> How can I change the card type in driver settings?
[10:47] <rambo3> guestie, use gparted
[10:47] <Surfnkid> anyone have initrd.img-2.6.12-9-686 i can download from?
[10:47] <answerguy> I have 12 year experience using fdisk; about two weeks experience with the Ubuntu espresso GUI
[10:47] <answerguy> Open an xterm or terminal window
[10:47] <aftertaf> Surfnkid, cant you regenerate one?
[10:47] <answerguy> Type: sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[10:47] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: what's it listed as?
[10:47] <Surfnkid> aftertaf: how
[10:48] <answerguy> (or might be /dev/hda; depends on whether your drive is IDE or SCSI/SATA)
[10:48] <aftertaf> google regenreate initrd... i dont know how myself... ;)
[10:48] <Anusien2> rambo3: okay, liveCD is up
[10:48] <Surfnkid> ok
[10:48] <Morrowyn> surfinkid  Assecoires -> Open terminal
[10:48] <Cheshirc> found answer to my time warp adjtime hwclock problem ... changed /etc/default/rcS   line that says UTC=yes to UTC=no  .. localtime seems good now
[10:48] <poje> Man, I think today has been crazy awesome for me+linux
[10:48] <guestie> it was SDA
[10:48] <DBO> anyone got any idea what would cause the notification-daemon to just not produce notifications?
[10:48] <[Chameleon] > DarkLegacy: try this at a console:    sudo modprobe xircom_cb
[10:48] <aftertaf> Cheshirc, which file? i have same pb
[10:48] <guestie> it gave me this
[10:48] <answerguy> On a Dell laptop that suggests it's a SATA drive; probably usign a Dell 610M or 800 series
[10:48] <Schalken> has anyone used a Geforce 5200FX in Ubuntu?
[10:48] <rambo3> Anusien2, just sudo cat /boot/grub/device.map and see if there is anything that shouldent be there
[10:49] <Surfnkid> Morrowyn:  ok ive got it open
[10:49] <avis> moi Schalken
[10:49] <bulltitan> in my childhood i was happy with windows and it's games,.... but now it is time to grow up and move on to big and better things,........ that's why i moved to kubuntu
[10:49] <answerguy> Type: p[Enter] 
[10:49] <Cheshirc>  aftertaf : /etc/default/rcS
[10:49] <answerguy> ... and it should print a partition table
[10:49] <Anusien2> rambo3: already checked that
[10:49] <aftertaf> Cheshirc, hehe got it.
[10:49] <Schalken> avis, did you get working drivers for it?
[10:49] <Anusien2> rambo3: just /dev/hda and /dev/sda (external hard drive)
[10:49] <no0ke> how do i know what process is using that port?
[10:49] <no0ke> let's say, for example, port 55555, how do i know which process is using this?
[10:49] <xtraitorx> any firefox people able to help with java issue?
[10:49] <avis> Schalken, yes somehow i was able to apt-get install the nvidia drivers for it.
[10:50] <guestie> ive got partitions sda1 throught 3
[10:50] <Remy__> Could somebody help me with my Wireless internet?
[10:50] <Morrowyn> Surfnkid, sudo fdisk /dev/<yourhdddevice>   sda or hda depending wether its ide or sata/scsi or something
[10:50] <avis> i found out how installing XGL to replace xorg.
[10:50] <rambo3> Anusien2, ok did you use force flag on grub install ?
[10:50] <answerguy> So try typing: n[Enter] 
[10:50] <Schalken> avis, and it worked with FULL support?
[10:50] <Morrowyn> but follow aftertaf stff :)
[10:50] <answerguy> What does it ask?
[10:50] <answerguy> (should ask for "primary or logical")
[10:50] <Schalken> avis, (forall the cards features etc)
[10:50] <andrivid> Hey, does Ubuntu suppport all Intel processors, or just Pentium and AMD?
[10:50] <bulltitan> xtraitorx i followed sun's tutorial and it worked
[10:50] <avis> Schalken, i dont use dual monitors i'm satisfied with my 21"
[10:50] <Surfnkid> Morrowyn: um what would that do exactly
[10:50] <GTroy> adrivid, supports all
[10:51] <Surfnkid> Morrowyn:  I just need the file, i accidentally deleted it
[10:51] <kakalto> andrivid: AMD is not intel. but as far as support goes, all, AFAIK
[10:51] <andrivid> Does ubuntu's shipit cd work on IA64?
[10:51] <rambo3> grub install --force-lba  /dev/hda
[10:51] <guestie> it says command action e extended p primary partition
[10:51] <[Chameleon] > bye
[10:51] <answerguy> Okay, that's even better
[10:51] <avis> Schalken, i've only used vga, not dvi .. so -- ??
[10:51] <answerguy> (You don't have an extended yet)
[10:51] <answerguy> Type: p[Enter] 
[10:51] <answerguy> (create a primary)
[10:51] <Schalken> avis, lol. ive concluded there is no getting DRI to work on my onboard video
[10:51] <hugomagic> The only thing I'm able to click is the firefox icon, anything else does not work. xubuntu 6.06. Any fix?
[10:51] <Morrowyn> Surfnkid, if you rm'd the file, its gone forever iirc
[10:52] <avis> no it does not support DRI
[10:52] <Remy__> Q: I've installed Ubuntu Dapper Drake 6.06 I configured my Wireless Internet only it doesn't work properly. Here is a topic about my problem: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/62188-wusb54g-wireless-g-adapter-problems.html#post332955
[10:52] <avis> oops
[10:52] <Morrowyn> if you deleted it through nautilus or something, its in the trashcan
[10:52] <andrivid> avis?
[10:52] <skipmeister> is anybody running Ubuntu on a 1680x1050 display with an ATI video card?
[10:52] <avis> on 5200 FX
[10:52] <Surfnkid> Surfnkid: yep its gone. just wondering if i can get one from someone
[10:52] <guestie> it says selected partition 4, first cylinder 4864-4864, defaul 4864
[10:52] <holycow> !sound
[10:52] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:52] <Remy__> ON a 6600
[10:52] <avis> i'm mixed up and tired. .  thought we had same monitors
[10:52] <answerguy> Now, I personally would make a relatively small primary to be my /boot; then I'd put the rest in the extended and carve that up as logical drives for /, /usr, /var, /tmp and /home; ...
[10:52] <aftertaf> Surfnkid, http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2004/07/msg00006.html
[10:52] <answerguy> HOWEVER, that's pretty advanced and you're likely to want to learn ALOT more Linux before you want to do that.
[10:52] <Schalken> avis, so because i LOVE ubuntu so much I am going to get a graphics card that will work with it. just so ubuntu will work. could the 5200FX be that video card?
[10:52] <zaheerm> hi
[10:52] <poje> answerguy: and your usage habits
[10:53] <guestie> i agree answerguy
[10:53] <Anusien> rambo3: The force flag?
[10:53] <orbin> skipmeister: what's the issue?
[10:53] <zaheerm> anyone knwo if i can install dapper server from usb stick?
[10:53] <rambo3> Anusien,  grub install --force-lba  /dev/hda
[10:53] <answerguy> So let's just make one big / for you; and an extended to hold your swap
[10:53] <guestie> k, i havent resized anything yet btw
[10:53] <rambo3> missing - there
[10:53] <avis> Schalken, thats the perfect video card, i have 2 already.  and they run about $30
[10:53] <answerguy> You said you have 7.5 GB free?
[10:53] <Anusien> rambo3: do I need to remount everything?
[10:53] <rambo3> Anusien,  grub-install --force-lba  /dev/hda
[10:53] <guestie> i would with a resize
[10:53] <avis> avoid ati
[10:53] <answerguy> Well then you should just Ctrl-C out of this and go resize.
[10:53] <roico> when r the edgy repos gonna be open?
[10:54] <nystal> hello
[10:54] <Anusien> rambo3: Still the same error: "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[10:54] <Anusien> "
[10:54] <hugomagic> no trashcan on xubuntu where is it?
[10:54] <skipmeister> orbin, I can't get my ATI Mobility X1600 to work in Ubuntu, with or without the proprietary drivers
[10:54] <guestie> kk
[10:54] <andrivid> Ubunt Shipit on IA64?
[10:54] <orbin> skipmeister: define not work.
[10:54] <avis> what xorg servers do xubuntu support ?
[10:54] <Surfnkid> aftertaf: thanks gonna check that
[10:54] <bulltitan> wassup orbin
[10:55] <orbin> hugomagic: ~/.Trash
[10:55] <nystal> Is there anybody who has a mac and Dapper?
[10:55] <orbin> hi bulltitan
[10:55] <guestie> answerguy thanks for your help but im going to have to tackle this some other time, something tells me its too late for me to be tinkering
[10:55] <skipmeister> orbin, not work means I can't get 1680x1050 res. The best I can manage is 1400x1050. Also couldn't get 3D acceleration working
[10:55] <Schalken> avis. i just dont want to install it. boot up ubuntu and find no drviers for it work and it is using dreaded Mesa software rendering again. that would be HELL. or boot up a video game and find OpenGL doesnt work. or some OpenGL feature doesnt work or something like that. so... does anything with the 5200FX not work with the nVidia drivers?
[10:55] <bulltitan> trying kubuntu today,... tomorrow god knows what i will try
[10:55] <avis> there isn't a such of thing as clustering under ubuntu is there ?
[10:55] <awss> does  Ubuntu used "update-rc.d" such the one being used by Debian?
[10:55] <answerguy> I have to get to bed, too
[10:55] <orbin> skipmeister: pastebin xorg.conf
[10:55] <andrivid> Does ShipIt's distros work on AI64?
[10:55] <guestie> thanks again, ive learned at least how to navigate this shit
[10:55] <DarkLegacy> GUys
[10:55] <guestie> a little bit daunting
[10:55] <guestie> thanks again, later
[10:55] <Anusien> rambo3: does the fact that I'm using a breezy LiveCD matter?
[10:55] <DarkLegacy> sry for caps* Is Xbuntu-desktop package on the alternative version of the Xbuntu disk?
[10:55] <skipmeister> orbin, I'm not in Ubuntu at the momen (dread)...I've had to resort to Fedora for the moment.
[10:56] <rambo3> Anusien, no , its the same process
[10:56] <DarkLegacy> er Ubuntu disk*
[10:56] <avis> Schalken, i got XGL working very nicely with it..  i think that proves that its the minimum nvidia supperted card you'd want to get  best value definitely.
[10:56] <spikeb> DarkLegacy, xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome
[10:56] <Anusien> rambo3: thought so.  any ideas?
[10:56] <orbin> skipmeister: same box?
[10:56] <nystal> I has troubles with Dapper alternate and an ibook G3, somebody knows about it<
[10:56] <nystal> ??
[10:56] <Anusien> Or how much simpler would it be if I started over from scratch, putting Windows on and then Ubuntu?
[10:56] <andrivid> am i not seeing answers?
[10:56] <rambo3> Anusien, chech out ubuntu forums?
[10:56] <Schalken> andrivid: you can order (for free) distros for x86, x86_64 or PPC. i think its safe to think the x86_64 (AMD64) cds actually work.
[10:56] <roico> when r the edgy repos gonna be open?
[10:57] <sladen> roico: relax.  couple of weeks
[10:57] <skipmeister> orbin, different machine but I don't have access to it at the moment. Don't sweat, I just wanted to know if there were issues with Ubunut and my hardware. Couldn't find any meaningful discussion by googling
[10:57] <Schalken> avis: thanks! i love ubuntu (if only it werent so sluggish on this stupid linux unsupporting motherboard)!
[10:57] <Morrowyn> try setting your default gateway in your network connection to your wlan card , Remy__
[10:57] <andrivid> Schalken, well as long as its for everything INtel, because I have an Itanium 2, not AMD or Pentium
[10:57] <sladen> Anusien: yes, isntall MS Windows, then install Ubuntu;  the opposite order won't work as Windows insists on wiping things
[10:57] <Remy__> Morrowyn, I did that already
[10:57] <DarkLegacy> i386 = intel
[10:57] <Morrowyn> ok
[10:57] <Remy__> but it failed
[10:58] <sladen> andrivid: try the ia64 version
[10:58] <andrivid> I have Intel Itanium 2 64-bit
[10:58] <orbin> skipmeister: low resolutions are a known iissue: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto  as for accel....could be a number of things
[10:58] <andrivid> okay
[10:58] <Anusien> sladen: Well, I'm already a week or so into Ubuntu, so I'd like to avoid that if I can
[10:58] <Anusien> rambo3: no
[10:58] <andrivid> Does that come as a shipit?
[10:58] <smoosh> can i set 2 chroot environment on ubuntu?
[10:59] <Anusien> especially since I just got the 32bit chroot setup, and I don't think I have a bookmark for that
[10:59] <andrivid> ive become a full Ubuntu(Kubuntu) user on pentium 3, so im realy wanting it to work with my 64bit
[10:59] <sladen> andrivid: no, download the netboot or install ISO
[10:59] <skipmeister> orbin, ok, thanks I'll have a look at that. Also, I've tried a number of things to get Ubuntu to function properly with my Duo Core, but to no avail. Tried upgrading the kernel and using the smp kernel
[10:59] <andrivid> okay
[10:59] <lig> I want to be able to save files to the apache htdocs dir without using sudo.  I know this is possible by somehow changing the owner and/or grp, but I don't know how. Can someone please point me to somewhere to learn about how to do this?  i have done a bit of googling and looked at the apache docs a bit - but no love.
[10:59] <Morrowyn> Remy__, ; try  sudo dhclient
[10:59] <Mr-mOjOjOjO> is there a Dapper Live cd?
[10:59] <avis> i will be running my 64 bit at 32-bit speed
[10:59] <Remy__> then what happens?
[10:59] <Morrowyn> Mr-mOjOjOjO, yup, the install iso's are the livecd
[10:59] <andrivid> Do you think the 32bit version should work on 64bit?
[11:00] <Morrowyn> Remy__, you kick the dhcp again to have a look at dhcp servers
[11:00] <avis> yeppers intel and amd are backwares compatible
[11:00] <Remy__> I think I already did that
[11:00] <Morrowyn> it might be that your dhcp server is down or something
[11:00] <Remy__> but I'll check again
[11:00] <Remy__> brb
[11:00] <Remy__> xD
[11:00] <orbin> skipmeister: can't help you with taht. sorry....maybe try the forums or keep asking in here
[11:00] <sladen> andrivid: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/dapper/main/installer-ia64/current/images/
[11:00] <Anusien2> man, such a pain
[11:00] <sladen> Mr-mOjOjOjO: Yes, the Desktop CD
[11:00] <skipmeister> orbin, ok thanks for your help.
[11:00] <andrivid> sladen i cannot burn the ISO at this time.
[11:00] <Mr-mOjOjOjO> ok thanks
[11:01] <sladen> andrivid: then netboot it
[11:01] <bulltitan> (my desktop is a mess because i'm a mess not because of kde,...in windows everything is a mess because bill is kickin it"
[11:01] <andrivid> that would require connecting the machine to do that
[11:01] <andrivid> its a seperate machine, and currently has no operating system.........
[11:01] <Mr-mOjOjOjO> how easy it is for a windows user to switch to Ubuntu, or atleast try it out
[11:01] <andrivid> from windows to ubuntu is easy as hell
[11:01] <andrivid> I did it
[11:02] <avis> i was enough to buy my dad a computer to match the one i'm getting to run linux on :/  i will have 2 linux machines 1 router, and a windows box to play with as well as a wireless printer.
[11:02] <andrivid> took about a month to completely switch
[11:02] <jpoje> andrivid: other than multimedia, wifi, and gaming
[11:02] <jpoje> :)
[11:02] <Morrowyn> Mr-mOjOjOjO, easy, as long as you are open to learn certain over again, like naming conventions and such
[11:02] <andrivid> I dont do gaming or stuff
[11:02] <andrivid> I just program
[11:02] <Morrowyn> especially gnome or kde is kinda "weird" at first
[11:02] <Morrowyn> andrivid, what do you program?
[11:02] <andrivid> just a bit
[11:02] <Anusien2> The grub magic live cd won't even work
[11:02] <jpoje> andrivid: then why were you on windows to begin with ;)
[11:03] <bulltitan> you can have some gaming experience with wine
[11:03] <andrivid> because i grew up with my family pc, which was a windows machine, and hadnt heard about linux until 3 years ago
[11:03] <bulltitan> more over with a nvidia card
[11:03] <lig> should i ask this in the apache channel?
[11:03] <jpoje> bulltitan: yes, and with cedega - but they are nontrivial to use and buggy as hell
[11:03] <avis> thoreauputic, is it possible for me to get a usercloak for ubuntu/student/avis ?  i'm going for a LPI then Ubuntu cert.
[11:03] <andrivid> I program anything
[11:03] <andrivid> Currently working on a chat client
[11:03] <bulltitan> :(
[11:03] <andrivid> I plan to make an IRC Client
[11:03] <Morrowyn> oh nice
[11:03] <Anusien2> screw it, I'll start over
[11:03] <jpoje> andrivid: why would you wish to replace irssi? ;D
[11:03] <Morrowyn> is that any difficult?
[11:04] <rambo3> in what language andrivid
[11:04] <Mr-mOjOjOjO> i used Ubuntu before, but was not comfortable with all the command typind to accomplish anything.... has there been improvements in this area?
[11:04] <Surfnkid> um
[11:04] <andrivid> c++
[11:04] <andrivid> IRSSI?
[11:04] <jpoje> Mr-mOjOjOjO: definitely
[11:04] <Surfnkid> is anyone running 2.6-12-9-686?
[11:04] <Morrowyn> Mr-mOjOjOjO, yup
[11:04] <jpoje> andrivid: zomg - terminal-based IRC client, my favorite
[11:04] <Morrowyn> Surfnkid, nope, 2.6.15 here
[11:04] <bulltitan> i had no problems and mine's a ati 9600 se
[11:04] <Jonnytheloony> Hello ppl! Just would like to know how to set up Soldat on Linux. Any help please?
[11:04] <andrivid> ohh
[11:04] <andrivid> im using XChat right now
[11:04] <Surfnkid> :)
[11:04] <jpoje> www.irssi.org
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Everyone probably knew this already except me, but in Open Office under Tools - Options - Memory you can enable "quickstart" which keeps a copy in RAm and speeds start up incredibly....
[11:05] <Morrowyn> samehere, although i cheat, on mac osx here
[11:05] <orbin> i've got a sempron...should i use the 686 or k7 kernel?
[11:05] <jpoje> sudo apt-get install irssi
[11:05] <andrivid> i dont like command line
[11:05] <Surfnkid> I guess Ill have to look in ubuntu to find that file im missing
[11:05] <andrivid> i prefer gui's
[11:05] <Surfnkid> andrivid: i got tired of guis
[11:05] <DarkLegacy> Wow
[11:05] <Surfnkid> andrivid: telling me what to do
[11:05] <DarkLegacy> Somebody took my driver database idea!
[11:05] <DarkLegacy> It's in Dapper :)
[11:05] <andrivid> lol
[11:05] <Mr-mOjOjOjO> ok last question, now there are some windows programs i cant live without sadly, how can i run these in ubuntu .. ?
[11:05] <Morrowyn> DarkLegacy,  :)
[11:05] <jpoje> andrivid: lol, you can implant irssi in Eclipse :D
[11:05] <DarkLegacy> Anyway, Linux is finding my PCMCIA device as CEM56 instead of REM56G-100. How do I fix that?
[11:05] <Surfnkid> andrivid: it helps if you develop gui's and are tired of command line
[11:05] <andrivid> Using WINE, the windows Emulator
[11:05] <thoreauputic> avis: not sure - if you become an Ubuntu member you can get a member cloak - other cloaking options are documented on the freenode site I think
[11:06] <Morrowyn> jpoje, no shit, really?
[11:06] <Jonnytheloony> Hello ppl! Just would like to know how to set up Soldat on Linux. Any help please?
[11:06] <jpoje> Morrowyn: no shit.  go to www.irssi.org - a screencap is on the front page
[11:06] <Surfnkid> andrivid: but certainly better to know procedures to get around gui's
[11:06] <Morrowyn> on the consolewindow there? or like a real plugin?
[11:06] <avis> thoreauputic, what do you mean by ubuntu member ?
[11:06] <bulltitan> there's only one doublt i have,... can i use free internet tv with wine?
[11:06] <rambo3> Mr-mOjOjOjO, use google and find winehq and search application database
[11:06] <bulltitan> i really love that one
[11:06] <Jonnytheloony> Hello ppl! Just would like to know how to set up Soldat on Linux. Any help please?
[11:06] <Surfnkid> jpoje: um watch the language
[11:06] <avis> i'm just loyal to my distros
[11:06] <thoreauputic> avis: hang on I'll get an URL for you
[11:06] <Morrowyn> damn, thats just ace, irssi in eclipse
[11:06] <andrivid> Well its 2am
[11:06] <andrivid> bed time
[11:07] <andrivid> thanks for the help guys
[11:07] <avis> nope
[11:07] <Morrowyn> seeya
[11:07] <avis> bedtime is not until 6am
[11:07] <Morrowyn> :)
[11:07] <Madpilot> avis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewMemberHowto
[11:07] <avis> thank you
[11:07] <Morrowyn> i think im, past mine then, 11am here
[11:07] <andrivid> id die if i stayed up that late
[11:07] <andrivid> my dad would murder me :P
[11:07] <andrivid> laters
[11:07] <Surfnkid> my bedtime is until my internet connection dies
[11:07] <Morrowyn> lol
[11:07] <avis> i can hack over 24 hours
[11:07] <Jonnytheloony> :-* Hello ppl! Just would like to know how to set up Soldat on Linux. Any help please?
[11:07] <bulltitan> and my problem is if free internet tv is able to see the codecs even using wine
[11:08] <jpoje> Wait, bedtime?  Like when the ball of fire decides to start harrassing my window again?
[11:08] <thoreauputic> avis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewMemberHowto
[11:08] <lig> I want to be able to save files to the apache htdocs dir without using sudo.  I know this is possible by somehow changing the owner and/or grp, but I don't know how. Can someone please point me to somewhere to learn about how to do this?  i have done a bit of googling and looked at the apache docs a bit - but no love.
[11:08] <kakalto> Jonnytheloony: through synaptics, find soldat?
[11:08] <Jonnytheloony> kakalto: Nope.
[11:08] <Morrowyn> Jonnytheloony, soldat is a windows game, so you might need to install Wine first and then run it
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: hah - while I was looking you already gave avis the URL - thanks :)
[11:09] <jpoje> lig: use the man pages for chown
[11:09] <Morrowyn> through:   wine soldat.exe
[11:09] <jpoje> man chown
[11:09] <bulltitan> or nobody knows or nobody uses free internet tv
[11:09] <Jonnytheloony> Morrowyn: I have Wine but another site told me I needed Cedega
[11:09] <no0tic> hi, I've a big problem, I have a laptop: all was working fine until some days before dapper release, now I have to downscale my cpu freq to avoid kernel freeze, because cpu hottens too much. with live breezy it doesn't happen
[11:09] <divineomega> does anyone know when adobe is releasing the amd64 version of the flash player?
[11:09] <Surfnkid> dude its been dead since friday
[11:09] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, /msg ubotu membership :)
[11:09] <nystal> please help me with ubuntu
[11:09] <avis> yes thoreauputic i saw that and i'm afraid that i have i am not adept enough to have made contributions to the ubuntu community.  i'm merely a ubuntu cert aspirant.  i've invested a large chunk of money in the 2006 LPI in nutshell book and a new 64 bit computer as well as 21" monitor
[11:09] <Fujitsu> divineomega, some time within the next year.
[11:09] <Fujitsu> !justask
[11:09] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[11:09] <Morrowyn> Jonnytheloony,  oh i see, its using directx
[11:09] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: aha!
[11:09] <Surfnkid> Hey Fujitsu how goes
[11:09] <divineomega> right
[11:09] <Fujitsu> Hi, Surfnkid.
[11:09] <Surfnkid> sup Madpilot
[11:09] <no0tic> what can I do?
[11:10] <Jonnytheloony> Morrowyn: Yup
[11:10] <Madpilot> hi Surfnkid
[11:10] <Morrowyn> then you need cedega, which isnt free
[11:10] <avis> hiya Fujitsu !
[11:10] <divineomega> that's 2006 I assume Fugitsu
[11:10] <Morrowyn> www.transgaming.com
[11:10] <Surfnkid> just glad to be here thats all
[11:10] <Morrowyn> you can find it here
[11:10] <Jonnytheloony> Morrowyn: No way to download it free?
[11:10] <Fujitsu> Hi, avis.
[11:10] <Morrowyn> nope
[11:10] <kakalto> Jonnytheloony: cedega is like wine with directx support. not free, unless you do some funky stuff
[11:10] <Jonnytheloony> Morrowyn: Aw man :(
[11:10] <thoreauputic> avis: you don't have to be particularly adept - I'm living proof of that ;)
[11:10] <Surfnkid> roadrunner stinks
[11:10] <Fujitsu> divineomega, maybe.
[11:10] <Schalken> avis: i just realised its not the 5200FX, but the FX5200.
[11:10] <jpoje> Not free as in beer or freedom ;(
[11:10] <Jonnytheloony> kalto: any help with the funky stuff?
[11:10] <Schalken> avis: were still talking about the same card arent we?
[11:10] <Surfnkid> and i have a big research for a client tomorrow, being down couldnt've come at a better time
[11:11] <Morrowyn> :)
[11:11] <jpoje> :(
[11:11] <no0tic> hi, I've a big problem, I have a laptop: all was working fine until some days before dapper release, now I have to downscale my cpu freq to avoid kernel freeze, because cpu hottens too much. with live breezy it doesn't happen. what can I do?
[11:11] <avis> thoreauputic, i've seen you around.  you are more adept than i :)  i am also disabled.. so thats a burden.. but i know i can apply myself  i spent a good 4 fours getting XGL up and running
[11:11] <thoreauputic> avis: there are lots of ways to contribute - mailing lists, IRC, documentation, wiki etc etc
[11:11] <Surfnkid> Fujitsu: know how to regenerate an initrd file? i stoOpidly deleted one
[11:11] <Fujitsu> Surfnkid, perhaps reinstall the kernel package.
[11:11] <Jonnytheloony> kakalto: any help with the "funky stuff" to install it for free (That's what I needed in the first place I guess.)
[11:11] <gianluca> hi guys!
[11:12] <Morrowyn> anyways, im off guys, need to do shopping and such
[11:12] <Surfnkid> directly from the cd/dvd
[11:12] <Surfnkid> Morrowyn: later
[11:12] <Schalken> avis: i just realised its not the 5200FX, but the FX5200, were still talking about the same card arent we?
[11:12] <Fujitsu> Bye, Morrowyn.
[11:12] <Morrowyn> all gl with dapper and such
[11:12] <kakalto> Jonnytheloony: there's a script somewhere... google for cvscedega
[11:12] <Morrowyn> bll
[11:12] <avis> thoreauputic, and for what its worth i'm not looking for employment.  i merely want to frame and hang the certs on my wall.  i will remain disabled.
[11:12] <kakalto> !tell Jonnytheloony about cvscedega
[11:12] <Jonnytheloony> kakalto: super thxs I try it.
[11:12] <avis>  same card, dyslexic mind ;)
[11:12] <Morrowyn> kakalto, can you compile cedega, wow, i thought it was closed source
[11:13] <kakalto> ubotu doesn;t know about it though :S
[11:13] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kakalto
[11:13] <fermi> hello~
[11:13] <kasumix> hello ubuntu users. ive just noticed that the Dapper Release also has a Server Version. now im asking whar advatages does it brings with itself ?
[11:13] <kakalto> Morrowyn: it's got some funky licensing and stuff
[11:13] <Schalken> avis: dyslexic?
[11:13] <avis> backwards
[11:13] <someone> hi, is there any way to rebuild/reinstall all existing packages?
[11:13] <gianluca> i have a problem....when i try connect to the network, ubuntu wants user name and psswd.....i try with the samba account but doesn't work, can you help me?
[11:13] <Morrowyn> http://transgaming.org/cvs/
[11:13] <thoreauputic> avis: :) Well you never know - things have a way of happening to you unexpectedly in this Ubuntu thing
[11:13] <fermi> Could anyone tell me how to shut off antialias in firefox?
[11:13] <avis> okies
[11:13] <avis> heh
[11:13] <Morrowyn> ok, lawyer talk you mean :D
[11:13] <avis> uhm i'll keep my fingers crossed and study like mad.
[11:14] <Jonnytheloony> someone: through synaptic, installed, select all, reinstall. Doesn't that work?
[11:14] <Morrowyn> im gonna give this a go , see how guildwars and oblivion are going to do on it
[11:14] <Morrowyn> prolly not
[11:14] <Morrowyn> :P
[11:14] <fermi> Jonnytheloony: it works fine, why?
[11:14] <no0tic> what package must I file a bug for?
[11:15] <gianluca> i have a problem....when i try connect to the network, ubuntu wants user name and psswd.....i try with the samba account but doesn't work, can you help me?
[11:15] <avis> i think i will retire my p4 to a server and use the new box i bought for a destkop this XGL uses a bit of resources if you want to seriously max out your workstations
[11:15] <Schalken> hi Fujitsu!
[11:15] <thoreauputic> hmm the torrents are still flowing fast...
[11:15] <someone> Jonnytheloony: unfortunately, kde is busted, so I can't test that
[11:15] <Fujitsu> gianluca, it wants the username and password for the system you're connecting to?
[11:15] <Fujitsu> Hi, Schalken!
[11:15] <Jonnytheloony> fermi: I was suggesting this to someone whho asked
[11:15] <Jonnytheloony> someone: so through the terminal you mean?
[11:15] <fermi> gianluca: you need the usr name and the pwd which were provided by your ISP...
[11:15] <gianluca> possible, and i have tryed!
[11:15] <someone> Jonnytheloony: yeah
[11:16] <fermi> Jonnytheloony: Oh.. sorry then
[11:16] <gianluca> my isp?
[11:16] <no0tic> read me please
[11:16] <Jonnytheloony> someone: hmm.... and you can't google it lol...
[11:16] <fermi> gianluca: hell yes
[11:16] <Jonnytheloony> someone: OK I'l try it for you...
[11:16] <Fujitsu> gianluca, which computer are you trying to connect to?
[11:16] <someone> Jonnytheloony: I did search, but turned up nothing :\
[11:17] <joycetick> in the xubuntu cd it can see my wirelss card but in the installed xubuntu it cant/ :S
[11:17] <joycetick> anybody know why?
[11:17] <gianluca> my laptop to the university net
[11:17] <Fujitsu> gianluca, what is it that's asking for your password?
[11:17] <joycetick> *in the xubuntu live cd
[11:17] <kasumix> What does the Server Release of Ubuntu DapperDrake brings with ? ist it usefull or would you go on using the normal Debian Sarge ?
[11:17] <Jonnytheloony> someone: How can you search if KDE's busted???
[11:17] <Surfnkid> Hey MadMerC how ya goin
[11:17] <ruxingz> stfw
[11:17] <someone> Jonnytheloony: I am on another machine right now
[11:17] <newinlinux> hi guyz
[11:18] <fermi> gianluca: did your university issued you any passwords to connect the internet?
[11:18] <Subhuman> kasumix, the server has a slightly server optimised kernel.
[11:18] <ruxingz> STFW
[11:18] <Fujitsu> Hi, newinlinux.
[11:18] <newinlinux> how long wukk it take to get nt cd?
[11:18] <Fujitsu> ruxingz, pardon?
[11:18] <newinlinux> will*
[11:18] <divineomega> what's the best way to get DVD playback running correctly first time?
[11:18] <someone> Jonnytheloony: anyway, I could have used links :p
[11:18] <Jonnytheloony> someone:oh ok
[11:18] <Subhuman> and you can get LAMP up and running fast.
[11:18] <newinlinux> my*
[11:18] <fermi> ruxingz: @@
[11:18] <gianluca> no
[11:18] <Jonnytheloony> someone: think I found something
[11:18] <kasumix> Subhuman does it also has a GUi or just console `
[11:18] <Fujitsu> newinlinux, ordered from ShipIt?
[11:18] <newinlinux> i live in europe
[11:18] <tanek> divineomega: take a look at easyubuntu
[11:18] <newinlinux> ya
[11:18] <Subhuman> kasumix, itz all CLI
[11:18] <Fujitsu> newinlinux, a few weeks.
[11:18] <ruxingz> fermi e
[11:18] <orbin> divineomega: easyubuntu + totem-xine
[11:18] <Jonnytheloony> someone: nope...
[11:18] <newinlinux> :) is it freE?
[11:18] <Schalken> ubotu, tell divineomega about dvd
[11:18] <Subhuman> u can install X but it's a waste of resources IMO
[11:19] <kasumix> ok thanks
[11:19] <arooni> folks: I have "Cookie: cookieName=cookieValue\r\n" added to my header file... is that the right thing if i want to add a cookie to my header request?
[11:19] <Jonnytheloony> someone: still trying!
[11:19] <Fujitsu> newinlinux, of course :)
[11:19] <newinlinux> am broke at the momnt
[11:19] <newinlinux> kk
[11:19] <kasumix> ya of course it is a waste
[11:19] <newinlinux> :)
[11:19] <newinlinux> is ubuntu a good linux?
[11:19] <gianluca> but i am using ubuntu as guest machine with wmware.....
[11:19] <Fujitsu> newinlinux, one of the best.
[11:19] <kasumix> hmmm and it uses the normal Ubuntu packages or diffrent stable ones ?
[11:19] <fermi> gianluca: hmm, it's weird that you could log onto IRC right now, and you don't have a internet access from your school..
[11:19] <newinlinux> i have vista i rlly want to discover linux
[11:19] <kakalto> newinlinux: what answer do yuo expect in the ubuntu channel?
[11:19] <newinlinux> win vista*
[11:19] <fermi> gianluca: are you in Ubuntu now?
[11:19] <gianluca> yes
[11:20] <Jonnytheloony> someone: Couldn's find anything... Sorry.
[11:20] <msid> ok this is a funny one. i have a laptop that has a touchpad like any other laptop. the touchpad has a middle button which now works in dapper as scrolling. the problem is that i am so much used to pasting by pressing the middle button that i want the old functionality back. should commenting the zaxis like in xorg.conf "fix" the problem?
[11:20] <newinlinux> am after info cuz i want to be 1 a customer of ubuntu
[11:20] <tanek> what is vista like btw?
[11:20] <someone> Jonnytheloony: thanks anyway!
[11:20] <Jonnytheloony> someone: Are u on Kubuntu?
[11:20] <kasumix> vista is like Xp and some features of OS-X and it needs double of ressources ;)
[11:20] <fermi> gianluca: I am suggesting you reading through the samba's manual then..
[11:21] <kakalto> what's a kewl name for a virus?
[11:21] <Jonnytheloony> someone: Have you tried the Kubuntu support forums?
[11:21] <thoreauputic> kakalto: Windows ;)
[11:21] <fermi> gianluca: I guess it was something wrong with your configuration..
[11:21] <tanek> kakalto: windows vista seems to be a good name
[11:21] <gianluca> they have registered my pc (mac address or something like this) some month ago...
[11:21] <kasumix> kakalto: vista ?
[11:21] <kakalto> LOl
[11:21] <tanek> so its crap basically?
[11:21] <gianluca> ok
[11:21] <James-C> Question: My /etc/hostname on a Ubuntu server keeps resetting (on any reboot) to have contents of "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain" So then anything that is based on /etc/hostname (like prompts, login, uname, etc.) keep coming out as 127 or 127.0.0.1 instead of the machine's name.  Doesn't seem to affect anything it is running, but a bit disconcerting. Manually doing 'sudo hostname machinename' fixes until next reboot. :-( Suggestions?
[11:21] <hugomagic> Is there a way to click on the Aplications menu without using the mouse?
[11:21] <kasumix> kakalto: no better take Windows seems to be better
[11:21] <DarkLegacy> What
[11:21] <Surfnkid> newinlinux: stay with ubuntu, we're a better crowd, we wreak havoc :D
[11:21] <gianluca> i'll try to understamd...
[11:21] <someone> Jonnytheloony: not yet
[11:21] <DarkLegacy> What's the terminal command for copy?
[11:21] <Naynay> Hi all. I can't get sound from 6.06 on this old Panasonic CF-M1ER laptop. Uses NeoMagic driver. No modern linux using ALSA works on it, but FreeBSD does. I doubt anyone cares, but anyway FYI
[11:21] <kakalto> I said "kewl name" for a virus... not a name of an old virus
[11:21] <Naynay> the patop is a Japanese one too
[11:21] <kakalto> :P
[11:22] <kasumix> oh sorry
[11:22] <thoreauputic> hugomagic: alt-F
[11:22] <gianluca> but however i can use firefox etc...
[11:22] <fermi> gianluca: our states are totally different, I am under an ISP service, that's why I can't help
[11:22] <thoreauputic> bah
[11:22] <tanek> DarkLegacy:  cp filetocopy destination
[11:22] <DarkLegacy> Thank you
[11:22] <thoreauputic> hugomagic: alt-F1
[11:22] <hugomagic> thx
[11:22] <fermi> gianluca: sorry for that
[11:22] <gianluca> ok
[11:22] <kasumix> would you suggest using the Ubuntu Server Release or the normal Debian Sarge ?
[11:22] <lincity> Hi everyone, I really like the new Ubuntu, but I can't stand the colour! How do I get icons/ change colours to something decent - e.g. blue?
[11:22] <Naynay> I'm going to annoy the ALSA people
[11:23] <Jonnytheloony> someone: are yoou getting my IM's?
[11:23] <gianluca> i don't know so much about networks, isp etc...
[11:23] <thoreauputic> lincity: just change your theme and background
[11:23] <Ng> kasumix: given that we're mostly all ubuntu users, we're probably going to recommend ubuntu ;)
[11:23] <quaxsphinx> Hi everyone!
[11:23] <divineomega> is there a amd64 compatibly build of libdvdcss
[11:23] <DarkLegacy> What's the terminal command for archive manager?
[11:23] <kasumix> gianluca: ive PMd you dident you receve the message ?
[11:23] <tanek> Naynay: :P tried compiling a kernel without alsa support but with oss?
[11:23] <hugomagic> No, actualy alt F1 opens Firefox, not the Applications menu.
[11:23] <thoreauputic> DarkLegacy: file-roller
[11:23] <joycetick> can anybody help, my wireless works in the xubuntu live cd but in the installed version it cannot find the card :S
[11:23] <DarkLegacy> ty
[11:24] <gianluca> sorry?
[11:24] <lincity> The background is no problem, but all the other icons that come with Ubuntu lack that nice glossy finish.
[11:24] <thoreauputic> hugomagic: no, it openes the gnome menu
[11:24] <kasumix> gianluca: ive wrote you a privateMessage dident you got it ?
[11:24] <someone> Jonnytheloony: nope, freenode has unregistered PMs turned off
[11:24] <thoreauputic> at least it does here
[11:24] <marzec> greetings, in case someone is familiar with the ndiswrapper i could need some help. i have a netgear wg111 usb wlan stick, got the ndis drivers from my windows installer cd. i installed the ndiswrapper and installed the drivers. ndiswrapper -l lists the hardware and driver as present but as soon as i modprobe the driver nothing works. dmesg tells me this ( in short ) Windows driver couldn't initialize the device
[11:24] <hugomagic> hmmm
[11:24] <gianluca> no
[11:24] <kasumix> gianluca: its in a other tab... if you cant seem to find it write me one
[11:24] <Jonnytheloony> someone: OH ok... Anyway, found this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html hope it helps (list of package managing commands)
[11:25] <gianluca> i'll try...
[11:25] <thoreauputic> hugomagic: check your gnome keybindingd
[11:25] <someone> Jonnytheloony: thanks, I'll check it out!
[11:25] <thoreauputic> *keybindings
[11:25] <hugomagic> I'm using xubuntu probably the set up is different.
[11:25] <Jonnytheloony> someone:Next time just use Gnome!
[11:25] <pirate> 
[11:25] <Jonnytheloony> someone: lol...
[11:25] <thoreauputic> hugomagic: ah
[11:25] <Jonnytheloony> someone: anyway good luck
[11:25] <thoreauputic> hugomagic: ask in #xubuntu then
[11:26] <someone> someone: heh, no DE will load at the moment :(
[11:26] <fermi> pirate:  XD
[11:26] <ruxingz> pirate 
[11:26] <lincity> i'm pretty new to linux, which is the standard one to use, gnome or kde?
[11:26] <hugomagic> too few people in there, all new like me.
[11:26] <thoreauputic> *cough* english here please
[11:26] <maikol> lincity: up to you
[11:26] <pirate> 
[11:26] <gianluca> i have sent you a message...
[11:26] <kasumix> lincity : the one you like more
[11:26] <maikol> lincity: ubuntu starts with gnome though
[11:26] <rixxon> this is _so_ annoying, if i copy something in an application and close it, the clipboard is cleared!
[11:26] <thoreauputic> pirate: final warning
[11:26] <fermi> pirate: /join #ubuntu-cn
[11:27] <fermi> thoreauputic: sorry, I didn't notice
[11:27] <fermi> thoreauputic: :P
[11:27] <thoreauputic> fermi: OK :)
[11:27] <Jonnytheloony> someone: argh...
[11:27] <gianluca> kasumix: it doesn't work...
[11:27] <maikol> rixxon: yeah i noticed that too
[11:27] <kasumix> hmmm have you got access to an other chat network like MSN or ICQ ?
[11:27] <waterbaby> :)
[11:28] <rixxon> maikol: annoying, isn't it
[11:28] <the_Grinch> ok everytime I go to http://127.0.0.1 it tries to download the index.php, doesn't just display it...any ideas on how to fix it?
[11:28] <waterbaby> ")
[11:28] <maikol> rixxon: very
[11:28] <gianluca> msn
[11:28] <cashwong> anybody can help me to setup my sierra aircard on dapper drake?
[11:28] <pkp> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii?
[11:28] <waterbaby> im new
[11:28] <kasumix> the:grinch have you instaled php modules for apache ?
[11:28] <joycetick> can anybody help, my wireless works in the xubuntu live cd but in the installed version it cannot find the card :S
[11:28] <waterbaby> ..
[11:28] <DarkLegacy> What's the terminal command for rename?
[11:28] <waterbaby> +}
[11:28] <tanek> kasumix: use aMSN or gaim (gaim is best choice if u want to be on many networks at once(
[11:28] <kasumix> gianluca: you can add me its_ kasumix@gmx.net
[11:28] <maikol> DarkLegacy: mv
[11:28] <bderrly> DarkLegacy, mv
[11:28] <DarkLegacy> ty
[11:28] <cashwong> anybody can help me to setup my sierra aircard on dapper drake?
[11:28] <James-C> DarkLegacy: 'mv filename newfilename'
[11:28] <waterbaby> :}:}:}:}:}:}:}:}:}:}:}:}:}:}:}:}:}:}:
[11:29] <the_Grinch> kasumix:  how would I do that?  I tried symbolic linking doesn't appear to be working
[11:29] <DarkLegacy> Man, what happened to ctrl C and F2? :\
[11:29] <kasumix> tanek ive asked if he has access i know what to use
[11:29] <thoreauputic> waterbaby: don't
[11:29] <waterbaby> :)
[11:29] <tanek> nvm then :P
[11:29] <waterbaby> dont what?
[11:29] <kasumix> the_grinch: how did u install your apache ?
[11:29] <cashwong> anybody can help me to setup my sierra aircard on dapper drake?
[11:29] <alth> Anyone know if webcams work with GAIM?
[11:29] <bderrly> cashwong, stop asking so much
[11:29] <James-C> alth: Not the standard distribution.
[11:29] <maikol> rixxon: is there a fix for that, or were you asking here
[11:30] <the_Grinch> kasumix:  went to synaptic package manager and downloaded it
[11:30] <cashwong> bderrly, can you help me?
[11:30] <tanek> how do i change default gcc version to use?
[11:30] <Oxi9eN> Ciauuuuuuuuuu
[11:30] <alth> James-C: Ok, do they work with ANY distribution? :P
[11:30] <Jonnytheloony> Anybody know  a Terminal command to reinstall absolutely ALL packages (if  it's possible)?
[11:30] <Aeroraver> can someone help me, i have problems with my kernel
[11:30] <kasumix> the_grinch: youve just downloaded "apache2 " ?
[11:30] <bderrly> no, i am not familiar with the card
[11:30] <the_Grinch> correct
[11:30] <the_Grinch> kasumix:  and php5
[11:30] <waterbaby> what  does ubuntu
[11:30] <waterbaby> ?
[11:30] <kasumix> the_Grinch: so download also libapache2-mod-php5
[11:30] <James-C> alth: see http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/
[11:30] <gianluca> kasumix are you on line?
[11:31] <kasumix> it should get you the rest
[11:31] <bderrly> Aeroraver, ask your question
[11:31] <cashwong> anybody can help me to setup my sierra aircard on dapper drake?
[11:31] <kasumix> ya i am
[11:31] <the_Grinch> cool thanks
[11:31] <tanek> Jonnytheloony: something like apt-get reinstall *?
[11:31] <marzec> how can i get to know my kernel version from within the console?
[11:31] <kasumix> give me your addy if you dont see me
[11:31] <thoreauputic> !tell cashwong about patience
[11:31] <alth> Ta, James-C .
[11:31] <Aeroraver> well uhm my system freezes while booting up the latest kernel
[11:31] <kasumix> sometimes my messenger has problems
[11:31] <bderrly> marzec, uname -r
[11:31] <rixxon> maikol: it was meant as a question ;p
[11:31] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[11:31] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[11:31] <maikol> marzec: uname -r
[11:31] <Schalken> does anyone know how to make Gaim show a little popup when someone comes online, like a normal messenger?
[11:31] <ubuntu> Hey does anyone know much about USB mass storage devices being used in a PC then a Mac and data being corupted
[11:31] <maikol> rixxon: yeah thats what i thought
[11:31] <gianluca> dskk77@hotmail.com
[11:31] <marzec> thanks
[11:31] <gourdin> when I use dpkg-reconfigure locales, dpkg doesn't ask me what locale to use
[11:31] <avis> Schalken, yes its a gaim plugin
[11:32] <James-C> Schalken: Nope, but you can set it to raise on events.
[11:32] <Aeroraver> you get the list with checks before startting, and it freezes when checking on the root file system
[11:32] <gourdin> How do I reconfigure my locales ?
[11:32] <gourdin> !locales
[11:32] <ubotu> it has been said that locales is at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LocaleConf
[11:32] <the_Grinch> kasumix:  that's installed already
[11:32] <joycetick> can anybody help, my wireless works in the xubuntu live cd but in the installed version it cannot find the card :S
[11:32] <Schalken> avis, thanks, know what its called?
[11:32] <avis> lemme load mine up and check :)
[11:32] <waterbaby> hhow long will it take to get the cd?
[11:33] <cashwong> yoo hoo
[11:33] <smoosh> how can i see from console which is my default c compiler?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> waterbaby: 4-6 weeks
[11:33] <the_Grinch> waterbaby:  took me a long time to recieve mine
[11:33] <kasumix> the_Grinch: Can you PM me ?
[11:33] <bderrly> smoosh, gcc --version
[11:33] <waterbaby> oh k
[11:33] <waterbaby> what has the cd?
[11:33] <smoosh> bderrly: thanks :-)
[11:33] <Schalken> ubuntu: the data shouldnt be corrupt. if anything the device might show 'unsupported file system', but ive exchanged data on my usb stick between macs and it worked. could be something wrong with your usb stick.
[11:34] <the_Grinch> I will say I am really impressed with dapper, much better then breezy
[11:34] <Jonnytheloony> tanek: You think it works?
[11:34] <waterbaby> what does the cd do??
[11:34] <Schalken> the_Grinch: i love dapper aswel!
[11:34] <kasumix> the dapper installer is buggy
[11:34] <Jonnytheloony> tanek: I didn't know that reinstall command actually existed!
[11:34] <kasumix> but rest seems to be ok
[11:34] <joycetick> my cd doesent get past booting the kernel :(
[11:34] <DarkRavenMixage> i have a problem i have an ati radeon 9600xt and, i followed the wiki to install it and when i try to test if it works with fglrxinfo in return me with this error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:34] <DarkRavenMixage> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[11:34] <Jonnytheloony> someone: did you get that?
[11:35] <tanek> Jonnytheloony: i dont think it does, it might tho :S
[11:35] <Jonnytheloony> tanek: lol
[11:35] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, you'll need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure Load glx is in the module section
[11:35] <Jonnytheloony> someone: apt-get reinstall * try it!
[11:35] <Aeroraver> and the kernel im running cant be downloaded , else id installed it again
[11:35] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly it's loaded with this line Load "glx"
[11:35] <avis> Schalken, its called buddy state notification
[11:36] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, then i would venture that the driver isn't working correctly...did you `lsmod' to see if it is loaded?  also, did you edit your xorg.conf to make it load the correct driver?
[11:36] <James-C> avis: That notifies in a conversation window, not as a pop-up (if I recall correctly?)
[11:37] <avis> i have to double check again
[11:37] <waterbaby> bye
[11:37] <waterbaby> BYE
[11:37] <avis> it says in a conversation window
[11:37] <Jonnytheloony> tanek: Couldn't find the command on http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html so don't think it exists. Too bad. Thxs anyway.
[11:37] <avis> there is also buddy pounches
[11:37] <tanek> Jonnytheloony: :(
[11:37] <avis> pounce
[11:37] <waterbaby> :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)it was funn bye
[11:37] <DarkRavenMixage> bdeerly under lsmod glx is not loaded but xorg.conf is configured
[11:38] <James-C> avis: He might be able to do it with buddy pounce, can't remember. :-)
[11:38] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, no, glx won't be listed in `lsmod', your ati driver should be
[11:38] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, glx is an xorg module
[11:38] <DarkLegacy> Is Fedora Core 5 better than Ubuntu?
[11:38] <Fujitsu> DarkLegacy, it's really buggy, Fedora Core 5...
[11:38] <Ng> DarkLegacy: that's an impossible question
[11:38] <DarkLegacy> Oh, right
[11:38] <Fujitsu> DarkLegacy, what can you expect in this channel!?
[11:38] <DarkLegacy> It's like asking apples and oranges, right
[11:39] <avis> Schalken, please look into buddy pounches it will notify you if a user comes out of any state and can include a message for yourself and it cna even transmit a message to the other person once they come online, away from idle, or not busy, etc.
[11:39] <Fujitsu> DarkLegacy, no, it's like asking Bill Gates whether Windows or Linux is better.
[11:39] <Ng> DarkLegacy: try them both and see which is better for whatever you want to use it for
[11:39] <bderrly> DarkLegacy, here is a *crazy* idea...install them both and find out!
[11:39] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly i past you the line under modules section in org tell me if it's writed correctly
[11:39] <DarkLegacy> lol I will
[11:39] <DarkLegacy> :D
[11:39] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, try again, i was marked away
[11:39] <avis> my windows is my bad boy box.
[11:40] <DarkRavenMixage> bdeerly under lsmod glx is not loaded but xorg.conf is configured
[11:40] <DarkLegacy> btw Fujistu, the network doesn't work.
[11:40] <DarkLegacy> ;(
[11:40] <SurfnKid> This explains why FC4 did weird stuff
[11:40] <avis> my linux box are my intellectual development boxes :)
[11:40] <divineomega> I can't get CSS encypted DVD's to play on my AMD64 architechture - latest Ubuntu
[11:40] <DarkRavenMixage> bdeerly  	Load  "glx"
[11:40] <divineomega> anyone managed to get this to work?
[11:40] <avis> will have two boxen for linux by wednesday
[11:40] <joycetick> does anyone know why my livecd doesent get past 'booting the kernel' when running it
[11:40] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, that is correct...you need to find the ati driver listed with lsmod, not glx
[11:40] <bderrly> joycetick, did you md5sum the iso before burning?
[11:40] <Fujitsu> joycetick, what hardware?
[11:41] <Fujitsu> joycetick, did you check the MD5?
[11:41] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly here it is fglrx                 388908  0
[11:41] <Ng> divineomega: the instructions for libdvdcss on the RestrictedFormats wiki page should work
[11:41] <joycetick> uh MD5?
[11:41] <avis> divineomega, you could try to find dos firmware and a dr-dos flash disk
[11:41] <Fujitsu> DarkLegacy, what network?
[11:41] <ubuntu> no idea sorry dude
[11:41] <mr_luko> kasumix:  how would I do that?  I tried symbolic linking doesn't appear to be working
[11:41] <mr_luko> ok everytime I go to http://127.0.0.1 it tries to download the index.php, doesn't just display it...any ideas on how to fix it?
[11:41] <joycetick> its a toshiba laptop
[11:41] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, good...now, is that driver being loaded by xorg?  check under the display section of the configuration file to make sure that that driver is being loaded by xorg
[11:41] <Fujitsu> mr_luko, have you installed libapache2-mod-php5?
[11:41] <joycetick> xubuntu and ubuntu hoary works on it
[11:42] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly under device
[11:42] <mr_luko> Fujitsu, yes I have
[11:42] <bderrly> joycetick, yes, md5sum, it is to make sure you have a complete iso...you compare it against the md5sum on the server
[11:42] <Fujitsu> mr_luko, please run:
[11:42] <Fujitsu> sudo a2enmod php5 && sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[11:42] <avis> other that xfce, what is the most popular lightweight x gui for ubuntu ?
[11:43] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, do this:  sudo grep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:43] <joycetick> bderrly, well i dident, but i downloaded it with bittorrent so i wouldent think there would be any problems with it
[11:43] <avis> i appologize for typing tonight but i should have gone to bed around 8pm last night.
[11:43] <frenkel> avis: fluxbox?
[11:43] <bderrly> avis, [black|flux] box
[11:43] <mr_luko> Fujitsu, says "This module is already enabled!"
[11:43] <avis> fluxbox. . ok.  can i install that in xubuntu ?
[11:43] <ruxingz> avis i using the icewm
[11:43] <Fujitsu> mr_luko, just run:
[11:43] <frenkel> avis: try it
[11:43] <Fujitsu> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[11:43] <frenkel> avis: apt-get install fluxbox?
[11:44] <Fujitsu> ... and then try again.
[11:44] <avis> i dont have my new computer here yet
[11:44] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (a required submodule could not be loaded, 0)
[11:44] <joycetick> fujitsu, its a toshiba laptop which xubuntu and ubuntu hoary have worked on
[11:44] <surface-> did ubuntu desktop for mac have live cd?
[11:44] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, ahh, we're getting somewhere eh?  the power of the log file!
[11:44] <squid0> avis, i like xfce for its stability and sanity
[11:44] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly lol
[11:44] <mr_luko> Fujitsu, stills brings up the download menu...
[11:44] <avis> basically i want to run a server with something lightweight on top
[11:44] <thoreauputic> avis: you can install fluxbox or any other window manager
[11:44] <avis> with my new box
[11:44] <avis> okies
[11:44] <surface-> did ubuntu desktop for mac have live cd?
[11:45] <avis> thank you
[11:45] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, now sudo less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:45] <thoreauputic> avis: see http://xwinman.org :)
[11:45] <avis> should i get the server install cd then ?
[11:45] <maikol> avis: xubuntu would be the lightest, though you dont really need a desktop
[11:45] <Fujitsu> mr_luko, can you please restart Firefox, or try with another browser/computer?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> avis: no need
[11:45] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, read through the file around where that error occurred to see if anything else peculiar happened
[11:45] <avis> i can handle console at 1024x768
[11:45] <joycetick> bderrly, how can i md5sum it?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> avis: thhe server CD is specialised for servers and has no WM at all
[11:46] <bderrly> joycetick, you just gave yourself the answer ;-)  ...   md5sum ubuntu-6.06.iso
[11:46] <avis> the ubuntu cert has one for servers and one for desktop correct ?
[11:46] <James-C> surface-: yes see for example http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[11:46] <mr_luko> Fujitsu, I restarted firefox...no luck
[11:46] <Fujitsu> mr_luko, that's strange.
[11:46] <bderrly> joycetick, you can md5sum any file you want...it is used for integrity checks
[11:46] <thoreauputic> avis: if you want a lightweight install you can either use xubuntu or use the alternate CD and do a "server" install then add what you need/want
[11:46] <kasumix> mr_luko: are you entering: localhost or 127.0.0.1 ?
[11:47] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, i've got to head off to work, hopefully someone else can help you along further
[11:47] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly (WW) Warning, couldn't open module GLcore
[11:47] <DarkRavenMixage> (II) UnloadModule: "GLcore"
[11:47] <DarkRavenMixage> (II) UnloadModule: "glx"
[11:47] <joycetick> bderrly, lol, is there anyway to do that in xp?, my ubuntu compter is using the xubuntu livecd atm
[11:47] <thoreauputic> avis: servers are daemons/programs - you can add servers to any linux install
[11:47] <avis> i'll use xubuntu and fluxbox
[11:47] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly just a moment
[11:47] <avis> yes but maximize resources
[11:47] <bderrly> joycetick, yes, google md5 windows...there is an md5 program for windows
[11:47] <avis> my poor little 2.4 p4 with 1 gig ram is running at
[11:47] <surface-> James-C: thanks
[11:47] <mr_luko> kasumix, entered 127.0.0.1 and on my mac it tries to download the file as well
[11:47] <Aeroraver> can someone help me, i cant get my linux to boot up
[11:47] <thoreauputic> avis: OK - that will give you a choice of xfce and fluxbox at login
[11:48] <jirwin> hey there.
[11:48] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, comment out the GLcore module  ie, put a # in the beginning of that line
[11:48] <avis> 19%
[11:48] <kasumix> hmm strange ive had the sameproblem when i entered "localhost" but with 127.0.0.1 it workd
[11:48] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly in xorg.conf?
[11:48] <jirwin> has anyone messed around with adding xsessions to gdm?
[11:48] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, yep
[11:48] <florizs84> @aeroraver what is the problem?
[11:48] <thoreauputic> avis: 1G RAM ? P4 ? pfft I have a celeron 2G with 512 running gnome/kde/xfce/fluxbox/ ....
[11:48] <mr_luko> god hates me when it comes to linux....
[11:48] <kasumix> mr_luko: you could try xampp
[11:49] <mr_luko> xampp?
[11:49] <jirwin> ion3 all the way
[11:49] <kasumix> mr_luko: it is a package wich contains Apache, Mysql, FTP-Server and PhP
[11:49] <Aeroraver> Florisz84 my computer freezes when the kernel is loading, im using kernel 2.6.15-23-386, it freezes when it says: mounting root filesystem
[11:49] <Fujitsu> jirwin, yep!
[11:49] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly that module isn't loaded....
[11:49] <kasumix> and its fast and easy set up
[11:49] <DarkRavenMixage> there isn't in the list
[11:49] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly there isn't in the list
[11:49] <pd273> Hi all, where did the site http://packages.ubuntu.com go, it is taking me to the ubuntu main site
[11:49] <mr_luko> kasumix, nice, should I uninstall apache, php5, and mysql first?
[11:50] <kasumix> ya would be bether
[11:50] <jirwin> Aeroraver, any more info than that?
[11:50] <kasumix> PM me again if you want more informations
[11:50] <avis> i have have coffee, tylenol, and a cigarette to continue.  i'm afraid my desire to learn isn't agreeing with my will to not sleep.  though i'm sure thats nothing new amongst linux users.. entusiastically hacking away.
[11:50] <avis> must
[11:50] <daneel> hi everybody
[11:50] <jirwin> I am looking to create a custom xsession for gdm...anyone done this before?
[11:50] <florizs84> have you tried another kernel image? or is this your only one?
[11:51] <thoreauputic> pd273: no problem here - just loaded it
[11:51] <daneel> I would need some help to get mod_rewrite working on Apache2/Dapper Drake...
[11:51] <Aeroraver> @ jirwinno not more, i upgraded yesterday to Dapper Drake, thats it, i get into the black screen, and after 30 minutes, still noting, im able to boot up recovery mode and thats it
[11:52] <jirwin> it should keep your old kernels in grub
[11:52] <jirwin> try a different one?
[11:52] <stelki> Hello. When I installed the nvVidia drivers from aptt on my ubuntu install, all the text sizes suddenly got  very very small. How can I fix this? ((Like text in menues in kde etc, theyre all small)
[11:52] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, perhaps you need to add it then...?  i know for nvidia cards you don't want it but perhaps you do with ati...i've never had an ati card so i'm not sure
[11:52] <Aeroraver> yeah but the older one's wont seem to wanna use my wireless netcard
[11:52] <pd273> thoreauputic: something wrong with my machine, it is working fine on another machine
[11:52] <nnz> has there been a fix for apt not connecting ? even if i can wget from the same url
[11:52] <pd273> strange
[11:52] <pd273> thanks thoreauputic
[11:53] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly allright i'll give a try
[11:53] <Aeroraver> its visble in device management and thats it
[11:53] <daneel> could someone help me with mod_rewrite config ?
[11:53] <florizs84> I would try booting on one of the older kernels and reinstall the latest kernel
[11:53] <thoreauputic> pd273: DNS weirdness?
[11:53] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, you are restarting gdm after you edit xorg.conf right?
[11:54] <kasumix> mr_luko did it worked ?
[11:54] <florizs84> what kind of hardware are you running?
[11:54] <Aeroraver> @florisz that is the latest, but it isnt downloadable yet, else i already had
[11:54] <jirwin> Aeroraver, what kind of wificard?
[11:54] <the_Kane> hey
[11:54] <the_Kane> need some help..
[11:54] <Aeroraver> rt2500
[11:55] <the_Kane> with smbfs, if i try to open the mounted folder for a second time... it hangs, and doesn't work... any ideas?
[11:55] <mr_luko> kasumix, haven't installed it yet download the tar now
[11:55] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly ctrl+alt+del is ok or i have to rstart the machine?
[11:55] <kasumix> mr_luko: oke have fun if you got problem PM me
[11:55] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, that is perfect
[11:55] <thoreauputic> DarkLegacy: ctrl-alt-bksp
[11:55] <jirwin> rt2500?
[11:55] <mr_luko> kasumix, cool thanks for all the help dude!
[11:55] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly ok i'm resetting gdm
[11:55] <joycetick> bderrly, the codes do not match, i guess that means i have to download it again?
[11:56] <kasumix> mr_luko: no problem
[11:56] <Fujitsu> joycetick, yes.
[11:56] <Fujitsu> joycetick, or use BitTorrent to correct it.
[11:56] <Aeroraver> jirwin, thats what it says in device manager
[11:56] <bderrly> joycetick, like Fujitsu said
[11:56] <joycetick> i dident think bit torrent could get it wrong :P
[11:56] <jirwin> boot up and run lspci
[11:57] <Aeroraver> ok
[11:57] <joycetick> how can u get bittorrent to check it? (i use azureus)
[11:57] <jnoon> anyone decent with makefiles?
[11:57] <divineomega> how do i install a C compiler?
[11:57] <ROBOd> hello
[11:57] <florizs84> @divineomega sudo apt-get install gcc
[11:57] <the_Kane> annyone?
[11:57] <ROBOd> how to convert an ext2 partition to ext3?
[11:58] <Ng> ROBOd: tune2fs -j /dev/hdX (where hdX is the partition in question). you might also need to update your /etc/fstab then to mount it as ext3 instead of ext2
[11:58] <divineomega> florizs84 - that requests depencies which can't be instaleld
[11:59] <ROBOd> thanks Ng
[11:59] <daneel> I would need help with mod_rewrite configuration
[11:59] <airtonix> hi guys, i did a stupid thing. i was chmoding a folder of stuff to 755, and i forgot to put a period before the slash...now I reckon system critical files are 755.......how do i reveerse this? can i load up a live cd and fix this?
[11:59] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly .... not working :(
[11:59] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, as in X won't come up at all or just the 3d?
[12:00] <holycow> airtonix, well yes :)
[12:00] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly no!! just the 3d!!!
[12:00] <airtonix> holycow: can you point me to some docs or help me out?
[12:00] <mr_luko> kasumix, I believe I am in business thanks for the help
[12:00] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, ok, read through the log file again and see if you see anything else regarding GLcore or glx modules
[12:00] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, look for (EE) and (WW)
[12:00] <kasumix> mr_luko: sounds good... verry good :D
[12:00] <holycow> airtonix, docs for what? put livecd in, go to /media/harddrive/whatever and chmod it back to whatever
[12:00] <KenSentMe> how do i propose packages to be included in the next release of ubuntu?
[12:01] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, i've got to go to work now, and i don't think i'll be able to get on once i get there because today is going to be a busy day
[12:01] <florizs84> @devineomega that is strange, what kind of dependency's?
[12:01] <bderrly> DarkRavenMixage, keep reading docs online about your card and i know you'll get it
[12:01] <DarkRavenMixage> bderrly allright :) thank you :)
[12:02] <airtonix> but how do i know which octlet to set each and every file to? i didn't write them down before...not that i could before my retirement
[12:02] <airtonix> holycow: you have to excuse me im pretty much a linux newbie....
[12:02] <holycow> its okay
[12:02] <mr_luko> kasumix, where is the index.php file?
[12:02] <holycow> airtonix, it might be faster to jsut reinstall actually
[12:02] <airtonix> yeah....sigh.
[12:02] <airtonix> oh well here i go
[12:03] <airtonix> cheers
[12:03] <airtonix> adios
[12:03] <holycow> later
[12:03] <digitalgalileo> if I leave room on my hard drive for ubuntu will the installer just recognise that and set up the partitions automatically without killing my windows partition?
[12:03] <holycow> digitalgalileo, kinda sorta
[12:04] <holycow> digitalgalileo, it should ask you 'use available free space'
[12:04] <holycow> but
[12:04] <holycow> digitalgalileo, you want to edit the free space manually using the partition options in the installer
[12:04] <SurfnKid> time for sleep
[12:04] <SurfnKid> gnite
[12:04] <digitalgalileo> holycow thanks
[12:04] <holycow> digitalgalileo, at the end the installer will install the bootloader and will make entries for your old os and ubuntu
[12:05] <ydnar> for what reason would a dvd not play if i have libdvdcss2 installed?
[12:05] <digitalgalileo> this is my second attempt at an install the last time i selected the resize automatically option and it just wiped my windows installation
[12:05] <Ng> ydnar: what are you using to play it?
[12:05] <holycow> ydnar, because it couldn't crack the encoding for the particual portion of the dvde
[12:06] <holycow> ydnar, its common
[12:06] <ydnar> tried vlc
[12:06] <joycetick> fujitsu, i did a 'force re-check' in azureus and it scanned for a bit but dident do anything
[12:06] <gourdin> we will we be able to access an edgy repo ?
[12:06] <cef> or if you're putting the DVD in a cd rom drive. *grin*
[12:06] <holycow> ydnar, start up vlc from gnome terminal and try to play th edvd.  it will tell you where it erroring out
[12:06] <gourdin> !edgy
[12:06] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html.  initial release timeline - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000144.html
[12:06] <Fujitsu> joycetick, odd.
[12:06] <alth> I saw a screenshot somewhere of Beagle running in the Gnome panel, anyone know how I could do that?
[12:06] <Fujitsu> gourdin, it hasn't been created yet.
[12:06] <ydnar> so then libdvdcss2 in other words will not work with my dvd-rom?
[12:06] <Fujitsu> alth, add the `Deskbar' applet.
[12:06] <holycow> ydnar, work with you cdrom? it has nothing to do with your cdrom
[12:06] <stasislove> i try to compile wine but when i run configure it cant find flex/lex, synaptic doesnt have it, can anyone help where to got flex/lex? Should i ask what it is?
[12:07] <avis> coffee awaits me.  i think i would have bought an ubuntu coffee mug but i think they were $15.
[12:07] <ydnar> i guess i don't understand the problem
[12:07] <holycow> as cef said, either you DON'T have a dvd player but a cdrom in which case you put the wrong media into the wrong device
[12:07] <Ng> stasislove: any particular reason you're not installing wine from the repositories?
[12:07] <holycow> or libdvdcss cannot decode the encoding for the dvd
[12:07] <holycow> one or the other
[12:07] <holycow> libdvdcss has nothing to do with hardware
[12:07] <Ng> stasislove: flex should be in the repositories too though
[12:07] <ydnar> so then it was this specific dvd?
[12:07] <Pip> is there any necessary for me to delete the old archives in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[12:08] <holycow> ydnar, in which case just do what i told you and run vlc from command line and quit talking already :)
[12:08] <ydnar> oh
[12:08] <holycow> ydnar, chances are yes
[12:08] <holycow> ydnar, most dvds play
[12:08] <mike__> Can someone please tell me the appropriate forum for discussing bcm43xx problems?
[12:08] <holycow> ydnar, some simply cannot be decoded
[12:08] <Pip> because I have updated my box from Breezy to Dapper
[12:08] <ydnar> i'm a huge ubuntu noob
[12:08] <vermoos> ahoy there
[12:08] <ydnar> sorry
[12:08] <holycow> ydnar, don't forget libdvdcss is illegal in the states
[12:08] <avis> forums or irc channel ?
[12:08] <ydnar> oh...
[12:08] <holycow> ydnar, its okay i'm explaining anyway.  libdvdcss was REVERSE ENGINEERED
[12:08] <holycow> what that means is ITS NOT PERFECT
[12:09] <avis> holycow, well they can on windows
[12:09] <the_Kane> QUESTION: Can i use valknut if im behind a proxy server>
[12:09] <the_Kane> ?
[12:09] <stasislove> Ng, no i just lice to compile, gives me the feeling that its better suited for my system then, but it doesnt matter i can install from repositories, but you sey i need flex anyway
[12:09] <avis> offtopic !
[12:09] <ydnar> ok, don't get mad but.. you told me to run vlc from the cl
[12:09] <holycow> in order for you to play dvds legally in the states  you need to PAY FOR A PLAYER THAT THROWS A KICKBACK OF THAT $$ TO THE MOVIE STUDIOS THAT OWN THE PATENT
[12:09] <vermoos> trivial question: i upgraded to dapper, and my .py files stopped looking like pythons :(
[12:09] <ydnar> to do so, which directory would i navigate to?
[12:09] <avis> word of advice, if you do something naughty, dont profit from it.
[12:09] <Ng> holycow: could you not use quite so many caps and hold back on the ranting? ;)
[12:09] <ydnar> i guess like the equivalent to c:\program files\
[12:10] <holycow> avis, no they can't, windows users PAY TO PLAY DVDS by either buying the dvd player software, or buying windows where ms pays the extortionists money on a per licence basis or whatever their agreement is
[12:10] <the_Kane> QUESTION: Can i use valknut if im behind a proxy server?
[12:10] <holycow> Ng, emphasis helps , that was overboard indeed
[12:10] <avis> holycow
[12:10] <ROBOd> thanks guys
[12:10] <avis> you may not believe this
[12:10] <joycetick> bderrly, i did a 'force re-check' in azureus and it scanned for a bit but dident do anything, should i just try downloading it again?
[12:10] <delire> i've got a friend that is not online and i'm helping her over the phone. when ever she logs in she's dumped back to the login screen. we've deleted ~/.Xauthority and chmod'd the ~/.ICEauthority but still it persists. any clues?
[12:11] <stasislove> what is flex/lex anyway? there must be somewhere i can get it o.0
[12:11] <holycow> delire, the easiest thing is to create a new user from command line and transfer their files to that account .... :/
[12:11] <avis> i plead the 5th i'm a linux neophyte
[12:11] <cef> holycow: don't have a cow man!
[12:11] <Ng> stasislove: flex is used to generate code. It should be in synaptic. on dapper at least
[12:11] <delire> holycow: she's tried that but even the new user has the same issue
[12:12] <holycow> avis, :) lol no worries, i have plans on putting up a website explaining all the scams the big companies are pulling.  at first i was annoyed at linux not being able to play mp3's or whatever, now i'm just angry
[12:12] <avis> okies holycow
[12:12] <stasislove> Ng, i have dapper, i searched on flex, nothing came up named like that, but some other stuff were found named differently and allt were installed =\
[12:12] <avis> well i only bought 98 because i scratched my pirated copy
[12:13] <Ng> stasislove: then I'm tempted to suggest your repositories are incorrectly configured because it's definitely in dapper, in the main section
[12:13] <avis> i went from win 3.1 to xx64
[12:13] <avis> x64
[12:13] <DarkMageZ> holycow, linux can play mp3, unless you live in a country that doesn't allow it :)
[12:13] <holycow> delire, oh shoot ... *hmm* i know that is fixable, but i don't have instructions on me bro ... i'm sorry.  trying to solve my sound problem so i don't have time to look it up for you. stick around someone will know
[12:13] <avis> dual core x64
[12:13] <delire> holycow: cheers.
[12:13] <avis> now with genunie advante, i shell out the money on credit to buy the os
[12:13] <stasislove> Ng, ok, ill try to find it by hand =\
[12:13] <holycow> DarkMageZ, thats exactly what i mean, and now one company BOUGHT RIGHTS (paid extortionto the mp3 consortium) to let us play mp3's in all countries
[12:13] <holycow> the companies name is fluendo
[12:13] <Ng> stasislove: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin and we can check it for you
[12:14] <holycow> everyone should write them and say thank you
[12:14] <cef> DarkMageZ: yeah, linux (and even windows) can do lots of things. Wether they're legal or not is another question.
[12:14] <zipper_> I'm trying to setup dualview on my geforce7900gt (2x dvi output). One of the screen is a regular lcd monitor, the other is a hdtv. If i only connect my lcd monitor, it works fine. But if i also connect my hdtv, everything is showed there and the lcd monitor goes black. Any hints on what might be wrong?
[12:14] <_jpierre> Hello ... I just installed Dapper and I'm getting "Grub Hard Disk Error". However, I can see grub, when I try to boot from a Windows CD, but actually not booting as I'm not pressing any key when it says "To boot from CD press any key" any tips on fixing grub?
[12:14] <avis> i also bought my father the window os (he is too dumb for linux) so he has a copy too.
[12:14] <Ng> holycow: seriously, this is not the place for ranting, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:14] <gnott> hi..anyone knows how to set up a pxe-boot using the ubuntu cd mounted loopback? There would need to be a pxelinux-file, i guess...?
[12:14] <holycow> Ng, dude, shut the f up.   first i'm not talking to you.
[12:14] <holycow> second i'm not ranting.
[12:14] <avis> i'm very generous to my father but he seems to fall short in many ways as a father but never let it be said i wasn't a good son -- most of the time.
[12:14] <Ng> !tell holycow about attitude
[12:14] <holycow> if you cannot read simple irc text properly you don't belong on irc
[12:15] <holycow> third i don't give a damn what you think
[12:15] <holycow> and fourth, it is usefull information for newbies
[12:15] <Ng> holycow: if you're not asking a question or answering it, you're offtopic. This is a very busy channel, we just don't have the space for anything else.
[12:15] <_jpierre> Hello ... I just installed Dapper and I'm getting "Grub Hard Disk Error". However, I can see grub, when I try to boot from a Windows CD, but actually not booting as I'm not pressing any key when it says "To boot from CD press any key" any tips on fixing grub?
[12:15] <holycow> the problem is that newbies assume that because windows can do it so should linux, and they need to know WHY it can't
[12:15] <holycow> Ng,  bite me bro
[12:15] <holycow> seriously, just do it
[12:15] <kimo> any idea when we're getting the first kernel update?
[12:15] <digitalgalileo> holycow, good point
[12:16] <the_Kane> QUESTION: where can i find an mp3 codec for totern
[12:16] <Ng> !tell the_Kane about RestrictedFormats
[12:16] <_jpierre> Hello ... I just installed Dapper and I'm getting "Grub Hard Disk Error". However, I can see grub, when I try to boot from a Windows CD, but actually not booting as I'm not pressing any key when it says "To boot from CD press any key" any tips on fixing grub?
[12:16] <cef> kimo: why you after a kernel update?
[12:16] <avis> you can re-write grub in recovery mode i think and i am beginning to think that making a backup floppy of grub is essential to users and to user awareness in the installing ubuntu wiki
[12:17] <airtonix> holycow: i have stuff i dont want to lose. my only problem so far isnot being able to log due to not beingable to write to my authorization file... if i chmod my entire home dir to 7777 would it help?
[12:17] <holycow> avis, these days backup to usb probably is more relavant, i would agree
[12:17] <stasislove> Ng, Postebin? I have used Linux for only 4 days or so, quite a noob, but i have what you asked for, just dont know how to send it
[12:17] <Ng> !tell stasislove about pastebin
[12:17] <avis> kernel updates take care of themselves unless they compiled them themselves
[12:18] <MadMerC> !pastebin
[12:18] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:18] <avis> i only have 2 usb devices as storage, one is meant for music, the other is a 80 gig lappy in enclosure
[12:18] <holycow> airtonix, well you can login with live cd such as knoppix ... then su - to root in that
[12:18] <airtonix> im in the live now
[12:18] <avis> formatted fat32 for portability in my room full of comps
[12:18] <holycow> airtonix, then set the root pass so that you can modify stuff
[12:18] <stasislove> Ng, please tell me again, turnd it of by misstake =(
[12:18] <airtonix> done
[12:18] <Ng> !tell stasislove about pastebin
[12:18] <holycow> airtonix, which live cd, knoppix?
[12:18] <airtonix> ahh no the dapper live
[12:18] <holycow> anyway, once you are root you can do whatever
[12:18] <Ubuntu> hi
[12:19] <avis> www.pastebin.com -- over 2 lines of text ?  a simple url and they will thank you
[12:19] <kimo> cef: coz the current kernel doesn't poweroff my laptop
[12:19] <avis> maybe there is a special laptop kernel
[12:19] <avis> laptops are finicky
[12:19] <holycow> airtonix, oh i forget if livecd has root ... if not you can create root account, then go over to dir and copy it to whatever media
[12:19] <Fujitsu> avis, there is no special laptop kernel...
[12:19] <airtonix> back up.....ugh!
[12:19] <avis> holycow, can you gnome terminal and sudo -i or sudo su ?
[12:20] <Fujitsu> holycow, why create a root account!?
[12:20] <avis> Fujitsu, okies.
[12:20] <Fujitsu> holycow, do not recommend to set the root password!
[12:20] <holycow> airtonix, its very easy on linux as compared to windows :)
[12:20] <avis> mandriva would specialize kernels
[12:20] <airtonix> i have a root account easily
[12:20] <holycow> Fujitsu, dude please stfu, and read what i said? he is using live cd to backup files and then reinstall
[12:20] <cef> avis: what Fujitsu said. however, a kernel specific to the processor may help things
[12:20] <Healot> the "root" account exists, but disabled by default installation
[12:20] <thoreauputic> sudo -i if you need a temporary root shell
[12:20] <airtonix> but i just need to know if an octlet of 7777 on my home dir will allow the gdm to swrite to my authorisation file.
[12:20] <holycow> Fujitsu, of course he shouldn't use root, but i do appreciate the fact you are  noticing and warning everyone as it s a common mistake
[12:20] <avis> holycow, watch your language.  save the drama for your mother.
[12:21] <Fujitsu> holycow, can you please be pleasant. sudo -i is your friend.
[12:21] <delire> airtonix: same problem here.
[12:21] <holycow> or what? its straight up truth
[12:21] <Toma-> is it easy enough to setup 2 gfx cards to work on 2 different monitors?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> holycow: watch your language please
[12:21] <airtonix> holycow: i dont want to have to re-install......
[12:21] <holycow> Fujitsu, and that matters how on a live cd for a one time backup?
[12:21] <delire> airtonix: a friend of mine can't log in to gnome after an upgrade. she's dumped back to the login window.
[12:21] <thoreauputic> holycow: and your attitude
[12:21] <airtonix> everyone: truth is important
[12:21] <rambo3> Toma- i would't think that
[12:21] <Pjott> Good Morning ppl :)
[12:21] <avis> you can reconfigure X from a console prompt
[12:21] <Fujitsu> holycow, it's a bad habit to get into. There is no reason to not use `sudo -i'.
[12:22] <avis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:22] <holycow> thoreauputic, brother i respect you, but others need to learn to read first.  its okay tho, i make the same mistake
[12:22] <thoreauputic> holycow: just cool it OK ?
[12:22] <airtonix> anyone know what a laodecian is.
[12:22] <holycow> cool what? are you people high? its text on irc, with strangers.  amazing how people read stuff into text
[12:22] <thoreauputic> airtonix: a spartan
[12:22] <stasislove> Ng, now i have posted in postbin, do you need url now or can you see it?
[12:23] <airtonix> thoreauputic: nope
[12:23] <Ng> stasislove: please give me the url
[12:23] <airtonix> thoreauputic: its a lazy luke warm spirir without passion.
[12:23] <zipper_> I'm trying to setup dualview on my geforce7900gt (2x dvi output). One of the screen is a regular lcd monitor, the other is a hdtv. If i only connect my lcd monitor, it works fine. But if i also connect my hdtv, everything is showed there and the lcd monitor goes black. Any hints on what might be wrong? My xorg.conf is here : http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1739
[12:23] <Fujitsu> holycow, there's no need for bad language, there's no need to set a password on the root account.
[12:23] <stasislove> Ng, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15120
[12:23] <airtonix> holycow has passion. its to be admired
[12:23] <protocol1> I am a newb and it only took me 2 days to get a ftp server up and running and accessible from anywhere on the net
[12:23] <avis> but his lack of manners is nto
[12:23] <avis> not
[12:23] <avis> anyway
[12:23] <airtonix> well yes
[12:24] <thoreauputic> airtonix: passion does not require rudeness
[12:24] <holycow> Fujitsu, you are correct, your advice is perfect.
[12:24] <airtonix> anyway, will an octlet of 777 get me logged in?
[12:24] <Ng> stasislove: hmm, strange, it does look like you have enough repositories in there. Perhaps try telling Synaptic to reload the package lists
[12:24] <airtonix> holycow: oh 7777 that is.
[12:24] <Klaidas> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186954 <- any ideas? :/
[12:24] <Fujitsu> holycow, I must agree.
[12:24] <rambo3> !easysource
[12:24] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:24] <protocol1> of course it took some reading
[12:24] <holycow> airtonix, it should give you access to those files yes ... are you backing up or ... ?
[12:25] <avis> everyone that wants a notepad for gnome -- ie for taking ubuntu notes -- please check out "tomboy" a notepad for gnome.
[12:25] <holycow> airtonix, ohhhhhh wait ... you are asking for perms to fix tha tproblem
[12:25] <airtonix> yeah you got it now....lol
[12:25] <holycow> airtonix, i'm sorry i was answering the wrong question, i thought you were backing up to reinstall
[12:25] <airtonix> it was an option id avoid
[12:25] <airtonix> for nbow that is
[12:25] <holycow> airtonix, my appologies i'm not exactly certain, thats a very specific question
[12:26] <_jpierre> Hello ... I just installed Dapper and I'm getting "Grub Hard Disk Error". However, I can see grub, when I try to boot from a Windows CD, but actually not booting as I'm not pressing any key when it says "To boot from CD press any key" any tips on fixing grub?
[12:26] <stasislove> Ng, lol, now i found it, reload worked perfect, sorry to bother you, =\ *samed*
[12:26] <airtonix> brb
[12:26] <Ng> stasislove: no probs :0
[12:26] <avis> those of you who are experimental and can hack it most of the time XGL rocks !!!!  i can manage my tasks easier when i can visually manipulate them
[12:27] <the_Kane> QUESTION: does SDRAM have 3 sets of pins, and DDR has 2 sets? im trying to see what ram i have here
[12:27] <holycow> avis, xgl is neat yeah, but i got bored of it really fast ... it was weird
[12:27] <thoreauputic> airtonix: ah, I was thinking of "laconian" :)
[12:27] <Fujitsu> the_Kane, SDRAM has 3.
[12:27] <avis> thoreauputic, i do have to comment the ubuntu official documentation is poor in regards to XGL
[12:27] <holycow> avis, the thing i ended up liking about it is how quickly the apps felt they loaded, even though they all loaded in the sam eamount of time
[12:27] <delire> avis: is't pre-alpha software
[12:27] <avis> holycow, i find it easier to manage
[12:28] <the_Kane> Fujitsu: thanks ;) also where on ubuntu can i find system information (such as processor speed, ram etc...)
[12:28] <redmonkey> well, I rather work on a 2d desktop :)
[12:28] <thoreauputic> avis: I wouldn't know - maybe send a mail to the ubuntu-docs list about it then :)
[12:28] <Ng> avis: xgl is not part of the core of ubuntu, it's a community supported extra because it's in universe. The next release may well provide more official support for it
[12:28] <divineomega> :D I have DVD's playing finally.
[12:28] <AnAnt> which package provides libtermcap.so ?
[12:28] <holycow> xgl is dead anyway ... aiglx is the future
[12:28] <holycow> :)
[12:28] <divineomega> Only 1 reason left to keep windows..
[12:28] <zipper_> Ng, is there a deadline for the next release or is it ready when its ready?
[12:28] <holycow> divineomega, whats that bro?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> zipper_: Ocober
[12:29] <thoreauputic> *October
[12:29] <avis> i dont just rotate the cube i move apps around and seperate the "partitions in my brain"  i'm an ex windows user well i will use x64 again but grouping tasks is good
[12:29] <zipper_> okay, thanks
[12:29] <divineomega> holycow, games - cedega doesn't do everything unfortunately
[12:29] <holycow> ah yes, well hopefully we will start to see more native ports anyway
[12:29] <divineomega> hopefully
[12:29] <avis> Ng, Dapper is the latest release and will be for the next 3 years at least
[12:29] <holycow> now that we have gdebi, installing on ubuntu is WAY easier than on windows for newbs
[12:30] <__doc__> hi, I am installing dapper and I got some issue
[12:30] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng, Hi!
[12:30] <divineomega> I can slowly start to shrink my windows partition
[12:30] <holycow> cleaner and safer hopefully too, for properly packaged items anyway
[12:30] <airtonix> re: xgl....im waiting for the looking glass project  to step out of java and becomes "usable"....
[12:30] <skippy81> ok anusien, are well im using xgl and compiz: phear my cube!!!
[12:30] <Fujitsu> __doc__, what are these issues?
[12:30] <_jpierre> Hello ... I just installed Dapper and I'm getting "Grub Hard Disk Error". However, I can see grub, when I try to boot from a Windows CD, but actually not booting as I'm not pressing any key when it says "To boot from CD press any key" any tips on fixing grub?
[12:30] <Morrowyn> morning
[12:30] <skippy81> lol i had part of another sentance typed :D
[12:30] <the_Kane> QUESTION: where on ubuntu can i find out how much ram speed i have, processor, and other stuff like that (such as windows System Information tool)
[12:30] <holycow> airtonix, what does that doe that aiglx / glx dont?
[12:30] <AnAnt> which package provides libtermcap.so.2 ?
[12:31] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng: One question for you, if you have a little time, please
[12:31] <__doc__> my problems are a) nvidia card. my screen resolution is 640x480 and I can-t click trough the installation because the rest of the installation dialog is outside my screen
[12:31] <Ng> AnAnt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ can search packages for specific files
[12:31] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: just ask, if someone can help you, they will
[12:31] <airtonix> holycow: well. its hard to explain
[12:31] <avis> Ng, yes i'm well aware of that and i'm done some reading and i'm quite content with what i've found and i dont use my mouse i use keyboard shifting unless i want to slide applications over.  its nifty on my 21" CRt
[12:31] <holycow> the_Kane, free for ram, top for processes, uname -a for cpu
[12:31] <Fujitsu> !find libtermcap.so
[12:31] <avis> crt
[12:31] <_nano_> _jpierre: if you have your rescue disk, boot and then run chkdsk, and then fixmbr and then fixboot
[12:31] <thoreauputic> !tell __doc__ about fixres
[12:31] <Fjodor> AnAnt: Install apt-file, do apt-file update and apt-file search libtermcap.so.2
[12:31] <ubuntuNewbee> are there problems with the Switch user?
[12:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libtermcap.so' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libtermcap.so) in libdevel/libncurses5-dev ;; (/lib/{libtermcap.so.2|libtermcap.so.2.0.8}) in universe/oldlibs/termcap-compat.
[12:31] <the_Kane> holycow: i dont follow?
[12:31] <airtonix> holycow: know how you can expand the cube into more sides than just 4?
[12:32] <holycow> the_Kane, thoser are commands you can use to find that info from command line
[12:32] <the_Kane> isn't there a gui ?
[12:32] <__doc__> thoreauputic: hm?
[12:32] <_jpierre> _nano_: I don't need to do the fixmbr, I want to fix the grub error. If I run fixmbr how will I run ubuntu?
[12:32] <holycow> airtonix, add more virtual desktops maybe?
[12:32] <avis> there is an apt-file search function ? after an update ?
[12:32] <Ng> the_Kane: either the System Monitor or the Device manager
[12:32] <airtonix> holycow: yeah kinda.....well its along those lines.....but i believe you can grab a window and throw it into the distance
[12:32] <Ng> the_Kane: in Applications->System Tools and System->Administration, respectively
[12:33] <thoreauputic> __doc__: that URL should help with your 640x480 problem
[12:33] <_nano_> _jpierre: once the mbr is fixed, you can reinstall grub
[12:33] <AnAnt> Fjodor: thx
[12:33] <airtonix> as if you were using operation flashpoint as your window manager
[12:33] <avis> airtonix, you mentioned getting rid of novell splash, i'm interested
[12:33] <holycow> anyway i think the cube idea is dumb ... i'd rather have more interesting animation between desktops ... say a nice blend, or say like a matrixy transition, or say maybe like an origamy folding transition ...
[12:33] <airtonix> xcruise meets xgl
[12:33] <_jpierre> _nano_: how?
[12:33] <__doc__> thoreauputic: sry i-m an irssi noob I probablz didn-t see the url
[12:33] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[12:33] <holycow> airtonix, *nod*
[12:33] <_nano_> _jpierre: using the installation cd?
[12:33] <Fjodor> AnAnt: Np. Didn't know ubotu would answer the query though ;-)
[12:33] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:33] <airtonix> avis: i did? well i managed to put my own logo there
[12:33] <thoreauputic> __doc__: see ubotu above
[12:34] <_jpierre> _nano_: I did that/ I fixed the MBR and reinstalled Ubuntu.. Didn't work. I still get Grub Hard disk error
[12:34] <nnz0id> how to edit file in vi?
[12:34] <airtonix> you may want to grab the compiztools or edit the apps/compiz tree in gconf
[12:34] <avis> airtonix, i'm not interested in that.. they can take the credti for development but i dont see them unless i'm showing them off to papa.
[12:35] <thoreauputic> nnz0id: to learn basic vi, type vimtutor
[12:35] <__doc__> oh one other thing, where to set the input locale?
[12:35] <orbin> nnz0id: press i for insert mode.....i'd stick with something easier though. try nano
[12:35] <airtonix> avis : im confused.....
[12:35] <holycow> allright guys now i need a bit of tlc ...
[12:35] <nnz0id> cant nano doing a system resque
[12:35] <skippy81> !LAMP
[12:35] <holycow> i'm  not finding much help on my sound issue, i just dist upgraded from beta of a week ago .. and my sound is gone
[12:35] <orbin> nnz0id: what's that got to do w/ anything?
[12:35] <holycow> modules seem loaded and sound card seems recognized
[12:35] <nnz0id> from the dapper server cd
[12:35] <holycow> and nothing seems to be muted
[12:35] <nnz0id> it only runs sh
[12:36] <bjmg> hi
[12:36] <skippy81> hmm
[12:36] <airtonix> holycow: mmmm
[12:36] <nnz0id> and when i do nano says some error
[12:36] <holycow> any clever module tricks anyone might be aware of perhaps?
[12:36] <_nano_> _jpierre: oh i see, in my case it worked..
[12:36] <skippy81> !apache
[12:36] <ubotu> methinks apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:36] <orbin> nnz0id: ah
[12:36] <_jpierre> _nano_: Lucky you
[12:36] <avis> holycow, lsmod
[12:36] <Pjott> hmm
[12:37] <Toma-> holycow: what are u doin?
[12:37] <avis> holycow, apt-get install alsa-oss
[12:37] <OrTigaS> hi! why when i try to copy my file from Desktop to fat32 hd it said "no permission" to copy
[12:37] <orbin> in azureus, what do the numbers in brackets mean for seeds and peers?
[12:37] <avis> that would be a fstab problem i believe
[12:37] <holycow> Toma-, i'm trying to figure out why my sound is gone, but modules are loaded, sound card is recognized and nothing is muted ... :/
[12:37] <bjmg> On the website https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue1 you can read that there are updates for epihany-browser and other packages (section Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Updates). But they are not available on the mirrors (at least not in binary form). The source packages do exist.
[12:38] <holycow> avis, *nod*, okay that is actually already installed *nod*
[12:38] <avis> you can remove it from fstab and manually mount it
[12:38] <avis> ok
[12:38] <Toma-> holycow: speakers on?
[12:38] <avis> lsmod reporting a sound card ?
[12:38] <skippy81> OrTigaS: the easiest way to fix it is to do "gksudo nautilus" browse to the folder, right click on it and set it to read and write
[12:39] <holycow> Toma-, yeah, they worked just before the dist-upgrade infact with last weeks beta.  the weird thing is this  upgrade seems to have updated the kernel, i had to fix nvidia manually and its probably interfering with sound now too
[12:39] <avis> speakers on and plugged in ?  right click volume control and go to the sound level adjustments and or mute panel ?
[12:39] <holycow> avis, *nod*nothing muted, i tried all of those *nod*
[12:39] <Toma-> holycow: and you have rebooted?
[12:39] <holycow> several times
[12:39] <Toma-> ok
[12:39] <avis> i'm no expert and thats what you need holycow
[12:39] <holycow> i tried installing libesd-alsa ... which removed libesd0
[12:39] <holycow> reboot and nada
[12:39] <avis> i suggest ubuntuforums.org in hardware sound
[12:40] <holycow> reinstall libesd0 , reboot, nada
[12:40] <Toma-> i agree, i gotta goto the movies right now...
[12:40] <OrTigaS> skippy81,  i tries to copy then right click but the paste is not highlighted
[12:40] <holycow> avis, *nod* indeed, i'm shooting in the dark here, no one seems to know
[12:40] <protocol1> holycow, have you checked to make sure your cables were all connected properly
[12:40] <holycow> Toma-, later, thanks for the help
[12:40] <izi> hello, I have a sony laptop vaio pcg-k115z and I get random (2/per day) freezes with dapper, i have nothing in log files, what can i check ?
[12:40] <avis> ubuntuforums.org is awesome.  it gets so much traffic my posts get outdated pretty quick with the new dapper release.  no one replies !
[12:41] <avis> but to some quetions they wont be ignored
[12:41] <holycow> protocol1, well i managed to make the speakers squeal by checking the wrong input box while i had another cardin to test ... i'll try th eother port again, but this one looks green to me ...
[12:41] <Toma-> holycow: im guessing you might have had a modified /etc/modules/aliases file, and the dist-upgrade hasnt installed all the new aliases.
[12:41] <avis> mine was a query for best gnome apps that are unknown
[12:41] <skippy81> i find that the forums arnt good for really technical stuff
[12:41] <nnz0id> when i press i in vi , kinda nothing happens , how to move pointer around
[12:41] <Toma-> holycow: but thats just my first guess :( hope it points you somewhere! and sorry! :)
[12:41] <nnz0id> like in normal text editor?
[12:41] <skippy81> but the froums are a real asset for begineers
[12:41] <holycow> Toma-, oh thats interesting ... *hmm* vaguely remember something about that way back ... okay googling
[12:41] <avis> i got "tomboy" the notepad for gnome
[12:41] <holycow> Toma-, danke
[12:42] <skippy81> OrTigaS:  have you set the permissions of the folder to read and write for others?
[12:42] <cdfs> I'm having problems installing mplayer...
[12:42] <avis> then post to the mailing lists on the forums and it will be send out to the mailing lists
[12:42] <cdfs> it seems to be removed from the repository...
[12:42] <avis> or heh sign up for mailing list
[12:42] <__doc__> about the display problem, the first suggestion "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" does not work because "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"
[12:43] <shrump_jimbo> i had problems with mplayer till I got the files from packages.ubuntu.com
[12:43] <avis> forums are nice because its easily accessible to everyone
[12:43] <zipper_> i'm having trouble determining the "BusID" (for xorg.conf) of my gfx card. lspci gives me "0000:04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation...". However, if i set BusID "PCI:0000:04:00.0" i get an error about there is no device there?
[12:43] <avis> mplayer requires some additional configuration other than apt-get thats in the ubuntu documenation
[12:43] <avis> its quite nice tho
[12:43] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng: As it seems that nobody answers, it remains to me to present here the problem. I created the power user (sudoer), then a normal user. From my first account I switched (with the switch user button) to the normal account. From the normal account I chose log off and there was the problem: The greeter failed to show 6 times. After 6 times a message shows in text mode (very wired characters),...
[12:43] <ubuntuNewbee> ...that tells me that "The display server has been shut down about 6 times in the last 90 seconds. I is likely that something bad is going on. Waiting for 2 minutes before trying again on display :0". After 2 minutes nothing happens.
[12:43] <nnz0id> how can i add lines from command line to a file ? cant vi it coz vi sux
[12:43] <ubuntuNewbee> What do you think about that?
[12:43] <Healot> does your X start? zipper_
[12:44] <zipper_> Healot, no
[12:44] <avis> so is Muine
[12:44] <jhunter> I'm a new user, struggling to get the drivers working for my nVidia GeForce3 Ti200 working. The standard directings  just cause the system to hang, so I'm now in the  NvidiaManual part trying to install the drivers manually. I'm up to the stage sudo chmod +x NVIDIA*, but all I get is 'no such file or directory' - Anyone able to help?
[12:44] <zipper_> if i remove BusID it works fine, but i need the setting for dualview (or well, i hope so at least)
[12:44] <airtonix> Healot: does it work when you set it to PCI:0000:01:0:0
[12:44] <orbin> zipper_: that's equiv. to : "PCI:4:0:0" i think
[12:45] <dennis_> hello Im new to linux i have the ubuntu breeze on my pc and tried to update to this new drake one it did everything with no errors but i could not log in my user name and password dint work any more
[12:45] <Healot> airtonix: that wasn't my question ---? zipper_
[12:45] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: hmm, I've not come across that before. Perhaps check /var/log/Xorg.* for errors?
[12:45] <airtonix> Healot: woops lol......
[12:45] <a_monkey> Does anyone here have experience with the "suspend" function for laptops? mine suspends fine, but locks up totaly when trying to boot up again when i open the screen.
[12:45] <avis> jhunter
[12:45] <skippy81> ubuntuNewbee:  same thing happened on my gentoo installation - i just ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and that fixed it
[12:45] <zipper_> orbin, think i've tried that, but i'll check it out
[12:45] <orbin> a_monkey: ati card?
[12:45] <a_monkey> Nvidia
[12:45] <delire> dennis_: does it take you straight back to the login screen?
[12:45] <orbin> zipper_: just do a reconfig of the xorg package and it will autodetect the id for you
[12:45] <dennis_> yes
[12:45] <avis> there should be native nvidia drivers you can apt-get from the repositories that are official nvidia
[12:46] <zipper_> Healot, x does not start, it only gives me that error and shuts down. if i remove BusID it works fine, but i need the setting for dualview (or well, i hope so at least)
[12:46] <avis> i got them upgrading to XGL
[12:46] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng: but have you used that functionality before?
[12:46] <delire> dennis_: do you see anything of the desktop before it dumps you back?
[12:46] <DarkLegacy> How do I change my PCMCIA's cards model ?
[12:46] <holycow> dennis_, at the begging, select 'safe mode' or whatever it is in grub where you haveto press f1 or whatever ... when it loads you will have root priviledges.  you can use adduser command to create a new user and go from there maybe?
[12:46] <zipper_> orbin, yes, but i need to manually specify the busid to get dualview. Reconfiguring won't give me that setting
[12:46] <DarkLegacy> It's listed as CEM56 in Device Manager, but it's really REM56G-100
[12:46] <orbin> in azureus, what do the numbers in brackets mean for seeds and peers? e.g seeds: 3(2)
[12:46] <ubuntuNewbee> skippy81: I'd do that, but the system doesn't allow me to enter command line
[12:47] <dennis_> no only like windows hourglass wait symbol
[12:47] <Healot> zipper_: is your card nv or ati?
[12:47] <holycow> zipper_, are you using nvidia?
[12:47] <a_monkey> orbin, Nvidia 6600
[12:47] <zipper_> nvidia geforce7900gt
[12:47] <delire> dennis_: hmm. have you ever used the console before?
[12:47] <Morrowyn> should work
[12:47] <izi> does anyone have a vaio laptop here ?
[12:47] <skippy81> ubuntuNewbee: it should, either boot in recovery mode, or just hit control alt backspace to escape from x windows and get to a prompt
[12:47] <holycow> zipper_, want my xorg.conf file ... i run dual screen with dualview?
[12:47] <zipper_> holycow, yes please
[12:47] <Healot> for each card you can download all the neccessary packages for multi-monitor...
[12:47] <dennis_> no sorry im very new to linux
[12:47] <Morrowyn> zipper, let me feed you me dual setup xorg.conf
[12:48] <delire> dennis_: a friend had a similar problem we just fixed. but you need to do a little command or two from the console.
[12:48] <Morrowyn> that one works for the 7900gtx i have
[12:48] <zipper_> Morrowyn, keep 'em comming, the more the marrier :)
[12:48] <Morrowyn> brb
[12:48] <holycow> zipper_, accept
[12:48] <skippy81> or ubuntuNewbee you could use control-alt-F2 to open a terminal and log in through that
[12:48] <delire> dennis_: this happened after an upgrade?
[12:48] <DarkLegacy> I have network problems. Help
[12:48] <avis> i was able to apt-get install a kernel or something that allowed me to get "nvidia native" drivers for the kernel.. i had to edit xorg.conf and change nv to nvidia
[12:48] <dennis_> yes
[12:48] <zipper_> holycow, hmm, xchat seem to have some sort of auto-ignore dcc's... 2 secs
[12:48] <TimothyP> Hi, I have the latest ubuntu on my pc, my pc contains numerous NTFS drives which I want to read from, I see them in "My Computer" but when I try to access them it can't seem to mount them I get the following error: 83.217.93.182
[12:48] <orbin> a_monkey: i don't have an nvidia card but it could be driver related..that's why i saked.
[12:48] <dennis_> 2 times i have last version cd
[12:48] <TimothyP> err... wrong copy paste :p
[12:48] <orbin> s/saked/asked
[12:48] <avis> DarkLegacy, hey guy whats going on ?
[12:48] <ubuntuNewbee> skippy81: control-alt-F2 has no effect when that problem appears
[12:48] <holycow> no worries
[12:49] <TimothyP> error: device /dev/sdb5 is not removable
[12:49] <delire> dennis_: sounds very similar. so i want to be sure before we go on. you try to login, you get the little clock-wheel and then it dumps you back to the login screen
[12:49] <TimothyP> error: could not execute pmount
[12:49] <jhunter> I tried to install the nVidia drivers from the reppository - they just caused my screen to go blank and I had to replace the xorg.conf with a backup
[12:49] <skippy81> ubuntuNewbee: just reboot and use recovery kernel mode then
[12:49] <dennis_> exactly
[12:49] <skippy81> its just standard but without x being loaded
[12:49] <zipper_> holycow and Morrowyn, try sending xorg.conf again
[12:49] <TimothyP> jhunter, apt-get install nvidia-glx     and   nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[12:49] <avis> i made the mistake of not backing up my xorg.conf but i didn't make a mistake of misediting xorg.conf
[12:49] <delire> dennis_: ok type CTRL-ALT-F2
[12:49] <kholerabb1> Can I install skype through synaptic or aptitude or do I have to download it from there website?
[12:49] <holycow> try now
[12:49] <delire> dennis_: you should see a text-only login prompt. type in your username and password.
[12:49] <michael__> hello all. I would like if anyone can help me change GRUB so that windows is the default OS on launch.
[12:50] <avis> i believe you have to download the deb
[12:50] <avis> for skype
[12:50] <dennis_> well i cant do that now im back on the older version i re installed
[12:50] <zipper_> holycow, i'll get here on another irc client
[12:50] <steve343> im very new to linux how do i make a fat32 partition write acessable?
[12:50] <holycow> zipper_, http://pastebin.com/759410
[12:50] <hoary> michael__: open /boot/grub/menu.lst and change default value to what windows is
[12:50] <zipper_> ah, thanks
[12:50] <holycow> i just put it on pastebing, copy paste as you like, i hope it helps
[12:50] <kholerabb1> avis.. hmm ok
[12:50] <themike> steve: have you already an entry in the /etc/fstab file?
[12:50] <jhunter> Perhaps I'm doing something wrong - installing the confis automatically uninstalls the glx and also vice versa
[12:50] <delire> dennis_: ahah, then i can't help you sadly ;/ i can only fix the problem on the Dapper.
[12:50] <dennis_> im writing this down
[12:50] <delire> dennis_: ok.
[12:50] <avis> michael__, let me fetch you a url
[12:50] <steve343> you see i dont even know what that means
[12:51] <avis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto#head-28c697721b2f5d2352e43074a55f4621c415293d
[12:51] <gnott> anyone here about pxe-boot? how to use the dapper install cd for pxeboot
[12:51] <themike> are you seeing the content of your fat partition?
[12:51] <dennis_> i do like this operating system just not very good at it yet
[12:51] <delire> dennis_: pm me.. so i can give you instructions
[12:51] <michael__> thanks all
[12:51] <steve343> yes but i cant save too it
[12:51] <guillem101> How can I use startx for a user?
[12:51] <kholerabb1> avis: do you know how to install skype form the deb? Could you explain please?
[12:51] <avis> guillem101, i haven't heard anyone discussing disabling gdm
[12:51] <TimothyP> you're not root steve343
[12:52] <steve343> its unbuntu tho isnt it
[12:52] <steve343> there is no root
[12:52] <avis> i did get rid of boot splash and got console to 1024x768
[12:52] <themike> open the file /etc/fstab as root
[12:52] <orbin> avis: heh, same here
[12:52] <alth> Hmm. I installed grub-splashimages, but does anyone know how I actually use the image I want?
[12:52] <steve343> do i have to do that every time?
[12:52] <themike> no just once
[12:52] <delire> dennis_: see my PM?
[12:52] <dennis_> new to this chat too did i do that right?
[12:52] <guillem101> avis, don't want to disable gdm, just to be able to startx.... because I'm using Xgl and I want a non-xgl server as well
[12:52] <avis> system-preferences-splash screen
[12:53] <themike> there you should find a line like this: "/dev/hdxx /your/folder vfat ......"
[12:53] <avis> ok
[12:53] <themike> show me this line
[12:53] <delire> dennis_: you should see a private message session somewhere in your IRC client.
[12:53] <avis> well i get standard X unless i type thefuture in gnome console
[12:53] <ePierre> hello
[12:53] <steve343> how do i open it as root?
[12:54] <Guardian> re
[12:54] <steve_> hey, does anyone know how i can get ubuntu to use the windows key? i actually want it so that when i press "windows + d" it will minimise everything and go to the deskop
[12:54] <dennis_> i have you pm
[12:54] <themike> type "alt-f2" and then "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[12:54] <avis> guillem101, look at this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267 it saved my life
[12:54] <delire> dennis_: anyway, i'll do it here. fix 1) login into the text only console and try the following. first 'chmod 777 ~/.ICEauthority'. then go back to the gnome login screen with CTRL-ALT-F7 and try to login
[12:54] <avis> hacking away at the comp for about 4 hours figuring out why it would not work anymore !
[12:55] <Guardian> i asked this morning about choosing between desktop cd or server cd, if i don't want to alter MBR, i have to choose server install cd or alternate install cd right ???
[12:55] <Morrowyn> zipper_,  http://www.morrowyn.org/x/xorg.conf
[12:55] <Morrowyn> this works for a gf7900gtx pcie
[12:55] <avis> i just think the visual aesthetics is more condusive to grouping and using multiple destkops especially if yuo are migrating from windows -- plus it looks awesome by mouse
[12:56] <delire> dennis_: if that doesn't work try fix 2) go back to the txt-only console with CTRL-ALT-F2 and 'rm -f ~/.Xauthority'. then go back to the login screen with CTRL-ALT-F7 and try to login.
[12:56] <Morrowyn> i miss expose :D
[12:56] <steve_> anyone?
[12:56] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng: Are you there?
[12:56] <zipper_> Morrowyn, thanks
[12:56] <avis> Guardian either one of those is going to have grub on the system so if you dont have grub you can always make a grub floppy or cd
[12:56] <liquidindian> !xfree
[12:56] <ubotu> liquidindian: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:56] <liquidindian> Hmm
[12:56] <Morrowyn> steve, look into the metamode/key or something
[12:57] <dennis_> ok thank you ill try upgrade this again
[12:57] <avis> liquidindian, what tribe is uhm your ubuntu ? :)
[12:57] <delire> dennis_: if *that* doesn't let you login try this: fix 3) go to the text-only console and "mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf.old'. then try to login again.
[12:57] <steve343> why is it blank?
[12:57] <steve_> Morrowyn: where is that?
[12:57] <liquidindian> avis, erm, huh?
[12:57] <kati> r0bby where are you from?
[12:57] <Nolt> hello
[12:58] <avis> liquidindian, lack of sleep -- appologize
[12:58] <Morrowyn> you migth wanna check:  keyboard shortcut in preferences
[12:58] <delire> dennis_: that last one is a little serious as you'll end up losing _all_ your preferences.
[12:58] <avis> or namaste
[12:58] <Guardian> avis: i have currently have a multiboot and i'm afraid desktop cd won't let me choose on which partition to install and wether or not grub should be placed on the mbr
[12:58] <steve_> Morrowyn: thanks
[12:58] <Morrowyn> under gnome, in kde i think its somewhere in the control center
[12:58] <liquidindian> liquidindian, oh, okay:  I'm sorry.
[12:58] <delire> dennis_: eg desktop shortcuts, desktop background, applets and stuff.
[12:58] <rixxon> what do i use to convert some .ogg to .mp3?
[12:58] <Ng> Guardian: the alternative install disc is probably the best way to go
[12:58] <themike> have you entered you password? then open now the file "/etc/fstab"
[12:58] <avis> Guardian the alternate cd is a piece of cake
[12:58] <steve343> it doesnt ask for a password
[12:58] <dennis_> i dont have any as yet i just got the cd about 2 weeks before the upgrade and have been exploring the system
[12:58] <themike> strange
[12:59] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng: When you have time, please test that thing out. The problem is consistent. It keeps showing
[12:59] <Alcohol> Hey guys. Is there a tool similar to partition magic available on Linux? I would like to install Windows XP alongside Ubuntu, but I don't want to have to reformat and partition everything again -and- reinstall Ubuntu too.
[12:59] <kati> how can I change the room?
[12:59] <johan_> moorag?
[12:59] <nomin> how do I control what applications are opened for different file extensions?
[12:59] <Nolt> who knows where i can find a .deb package of verlihub ??? i tryied to compile but i compilation has been finished with error... Please help !!!!!!
[12:59] <Morrowyn> qpart or gpart Alcohol
[12:59] <Ng> Alcohol: gparted
[12:59] <avis> Alcohol, yes qtparted
[12:59] <Healot> Alcohol: g/qparted
[12:59] <themike> ok, then we try the termal-way
[12:59] <Morrowyn> thats the one :)
[12:59] <Healot> the backend is parted
[12:59] <Alcohol> Ah, thanks (:
[12:59] <Alcohol> I will look into that.
[12:59] <dennis_> thanks bye for now
[12:59] <themike> open a terminal by executing "xterm" after pressing "alt-f2"
[12:59] <Guardian> thx ng & navis
[12:59] <Guardian> & avis
[12:59] <Guardian> sorry : )
[01:00] <avis> you can find a bootable qtparted with a very recent kernel boot image if you google for systemrescuecd
[01:00] <Nolt> anybody ??
[01:00] <kati> do anybody know how to change the room?
[01:00] <Guardian> one more question, what differs between desktop cd  and server cd + ubuntu-desktop package ???
[01:00] <guillem101> avis, wow, just choosing "new entry" asks me wether to use Xgl or standard X :-))))
[01:00] <avis> Guardian, learn grub
[01:00] <holycow> knoppix comes with a whole ton of tools on live cd, including qtparted if anyone cares
[01:00] <holycow> brb
[01:00] <kati> :-/
[01:00] <Ng> Guardian: in theory, nothing
[01:00] <sybariten> still thousands of users ?
[01:00] <rixxon> ogg -> mp3, how?
[01:00] <Ng> kati: /join #channelname
[01:00] <avis> guillem101, i'm lost ?  you sound like you have performed a olympic task ?
[01:00] <steve343> it gives a warning saying it didnt work
[01:00] <Guardian> avis: i know grub, i just want to make sure grub will be installed on a dedicated partition. i'm using XOSL on the MBR
[01:00] <Ng> kati: assuming you mean chat room
[01:01] <Healot> anyone familiar with LVM?
[01:01] <Guardian> ok ng, thx
[01:01] <sybariten> Lagen om vard av missbrukare
[01:01] <Morrowyn> Nolt, gran the rpms and use alien to make a .deb from it and then dpkg -i the debs
[01:01] <themike> rixxon: try the package: "nautilus-script-audio-convert"
[01:01] <kati> Ng : Yes sorry, I cannot speak very well...    please,tell me a name
[01:01] <avis> Guardian, the alternate cd i believe automatically will write the mbr
[01:01] <nevchen_> hi
[01:01] <Healot> I am building an enterprise server, so I really need to work with RAID/LVM
[01:01] <rixxon> themike: thanks
[01:01] <symetric> does anyone here have any experience with codeweavers crossover office?
[01:01] <avis> i had to think back
[01:01] <kati> hi nervchen
[01:01] <avis> perhaps you need a text or expert mode
[01:01] <symetric> I have installed it, but i can't find it anywhere :P
[01:01] <Morrowyn> symetric, crossover office 5 works ace on ubuntu
[01:01] <nevchen_> I have a problem with my network card can anybody help me?
[01:02] <Morrowyn> im running it for photoshop
[01:02] <symetric> Morrowyn: ok :) but how do i get it running? :P
[01:02] <Morrowyn> nevchen_, some more info on your problem might be useful
[01:02] <Bladesonfire> Does anyone know if the PPC version of the server install CD does not include the easy LAMP install option?
[01:02] <themike> rixxon: maybe you have to install some libs 4 the audio-codecs too, so just look into "/usr/share/nautilus-scripts/ConvertAudioFile" after the installation
[01:02] <nevchen_> it's a pcmcia network card
[01:02] <alth> sybariten: Try install the Debian menu, sudo apt-get install menu
[01:02] <steve343> anyone?
[01:02] <alth> Er, symetric *
[01:02] <nevchen_> @ breezy the card works very well
[01:02] <Morrowyn> symetric, after you installed it, it should created a menu in the gnome menu: crossover
[01:02] <kati> Ng:Can you tell me a 'channelname'??
[01:02] <Ng> Bladesonfire: it should have the same things as the 386 version
[01:02] <themike> steve: have you opened a terminal?
[01:02] <nevchen_> @ dapper i must start ubuntu
[01:02] <Nolt> Morrowyn: do you know where i could find rpm of verli ?
[01:02] <Ng> kati: there are loads. what are you looking for?
[01:03] <nevchen_> put und release the card 3 times
[01:03] <steve343> i did
[01:03] <nevchen_> since it works
[01:03] <Morrowyn> nolt, dunno
[01:03] <kati> Ng:just for talking...?!
[01:03] <avis> Nolt, rpmfind.ent
[01:03] <avis> net
[01:03] <kati> Ng: I don't know...
[01:03] <Bladesonfire> Ng: doesn't seem like it does, although I don't have the i386 ISO to compare
[01:03] <Ng> kati: there's #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatting
[01:03] <Morrowyn> wow, havent seen that site in a long time
[01:03] <themike> ok, then let me look an your mounting table
[01:03] <Nolt> avis ok ill try
[01:03] <steve343> maybe i got the password wrong but i dont think so
[01:03] <themike> type in "mount"
[01:03] <Nolt> thx
[01:03] <kati> Ng: merci....       hm... thanks...;)
[01:03] <AlD> moorag
[01:03] <symetric> Morrowyn:  do i have to reboot or something before it shows up?
[01:03] <Morrowyn> symetric, is the menu there?
[01:03] <Morrowyn> no
[01:04] <symetric> ok.
[01:04] <symetric> weird :/
[01:04] <sybariten> alth: i'll do that .... some day
[01:04] <Morrowyn> did you install it through    sudo sh <installer> ?
[01:04] <kholerabb1> Could someone help me install skype .deb please?
[01:04] <Morrowyn> it cuold be that you didnt had the permissions to create the menu or something
[01:04] <alth> sybariten: I meant symetric  :P
[01:04] <rixxon> themike: uhm is it supposed to add any menus to nautilus?
[01:04] <futlib> hi, network-admin is slow and doesn't save my settings for a place. but it looks like it should do exactly what I need it for. Is there any way to make it faster/work with different places or a reasonable replacement?
[01:04] <Firebird8> off to school
[01:04] <themike> there has to be a line like this: "/dev/sda1 on /media/mobile_hd type vfat (rw,nos.........."
[01:05] <avis> kholerabb1, its in the ubuntu wiki for all distros
[01:05] <themike> rixxon: hm?
[01:05] <Captain-Fungi> !NTFS
[01:05] <themike> rixxon: whats your problem?
[01:05] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[01:05] <ubuntuNewbee> skippy81: is there a way to disable Switch user functionality?
[01:05] <Morrowyn> but, find the <yourinstalldir>/cxoffice/bin/cxinstallwizard  that should give you the wizard where you can install the windows programs
[01:05] <ed__> zup!
[01:05] <steve343> i give up ive got no time to do this now i'll just move it over to my linux partition
[01:06] <steve343> thanks for the help guys be back later
[01:06] <themike> ok..
[01:06] <themike> have fun ;)
[01:06] <rixxon> themike: i installed that package but i don't find anything in nautilus related to converting
[01:06] <truzak> hello, how do I turn off animation effect during window minimize?
[01:06] <ed__> anyone out there using a AMD HP2000
[01:06] <themike> you have to restart nautilus or gnome
[01:06] <Whyvas> anyone using rogers cable?
[01:06] <bajker_> can anyone help me with broadcom wifi card in laptop?
[01:07] <themike> then you can convert the files with "rightclick" > "scripts" > "audioconvert...."
[01:07] <sybariten> alth: eye know ...   tab-completion can be a bitch, cant it
[01:07] <sid> #ubuntu
[01:07] <avis> bajker_, i dont know i am getting a wifi despite being 3 ft away from the router just to learn but i hear that chipset is very problematic with ubuntu
[01:07] <shriphani> is there a garageband like audio manager for ubuntu ?
[01:08] <ed__> did you install ndiswrapper?
[01:08] <alth> sybariten: Yeah ;)
[01:08] <sybariten> ok i'm sick and tired of not having access to the swedish characters ... i have US keyboard layout on a stupid iMac under Breezy. Running XFCE. Any help on that?
[01:08] <avis> ndiswrapper is always a solutions
[01:08] <sid> whenever I switch on the numlock gets on in my laptop
[01:08] <sid> is there a way to stop it ?
[01:08] <Morrowyn> sybariten, try set it to a different layout
[01:08] <Whyvas> bajker_, which broadcom chipset?
[01:09] <bajker_> ndiswrapper doesn't work for me and bcm43xx-cutter also :(
[01:09] <sid> ok
[01:09] <shriphani> guys any idea about an audio manager like garageband for ubuntu ?
[01:09] <avis> kinda hard when your used to typing in swedish :)
[01:09] <bajker_> whywas> bcm4318
[01:09] <sybariten> Morrowyn: yeah, thats ecxactly what i want to do   :)
[01:09] <k3mper> how should i install kernel source which is used in default distribution? (linux-source gets me 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1 but uname -r = 2.6.15-23-386 - dapper)
[01:09] <Morrowyn> hmmm, xfce should be caffeine free
[01:09] <workbean> guys, if someone is buying a PC that will eventually run ubuntu is there a reference hardware spec that he can refer too?
[01:10] <avis> k3mper, apt-get install build-essential
[01:10] <Whyvas> i've got the 4319 and it works wuth cutter and ndiswrapper
[01:10] <avis> or essentials
[01:10] <avis> workbean, i believe its common sense
[01:10] <liquidindian> !xfree86
[01:10] <ubotu> liquidindian: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:10] <avis> though there are supproted chipsetes by kernel etc
[01:11] <Healot> liquidindian: ubuntu comes ith xorg as the X server
[01:11] <avis> and there have been lists of laptops and desktops that did or did not work under ubuntu etc
[01:11] <Morrowyn> http://xfce.wikia.com/wiki/Tips,_Tricks_and_Howtos#How_do_I_configure_Xkb sybariten
[01:11] <shriphani> Ubugtu: any idea about audio managers of ubuntu
[01:11] <k3mper> avis: already have that
[01:11] <Healot> do you need XFree somehow? liquidindian
[01:11] <liquidindian> Healot, I'm getting funny lines when playing video using xine.
[01:11] <ed__> Anyone in here use Blender?
[01:12] <shriphani> !audio_managers
[01:12] <ubotu> shriphani: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:12] <workbean> thanks vis
[01:12] <Morrowyn> ed__, not really, im a maya man
[01:12] <avis> k3mper, you dont need bleeding edge for computer to work under linux
[01:12] <shriphani> hmm anyone can help me ?
[01:12] <Morrowyn> but orange.blender.org shows what you cando with oss graphics software though
[01:12] <Morrowyn> it amazed me
[01:12] <avis> what is an audio manager, shriphani
[01:13] <k3mper> avis: what? i need kernel source of default kernel in dapper (i386)
[01:13] <Healot> liquidindian: type of media played?
[01:13] <ed__> I use to use Maya but I left the company and I will not buy it.
[01:13] <liquidindian> Healot, avi
[01:13] <shriphani> something like garageband
[01:13] <avis> yes k3mper build-essentialls i believe fetches the kernel soruces
[01:13] <avis> i thought
[01:13] <avis> best bet
[01:13] <avis> use synaptic
[01:13] <Healot> ok, is 3D support enabled, liquidindian?
[01:13] <avis> search for kernel
[01:13] <avis> look for source
[01:13] <shriphani> or an industrial audio manager
[01:13] <avis> industrial ?
[01:14] <shriphani> yeh
[01:14] <avis> heh
[01:14] <shriphani> like frequency modification, pitch modification and the like
[01:14] <avis> ahh ok i have no idea.  nothing that sophisticated.
[01:14] <Morrowyn> ed, true, its rather expensive
[01:14] <bajker_> i will try ndiswrapper, how can i restrict driver bcm43xx load on startup? in blacklist?
[01:15] <Morrowyn> and now that autodeskk own alias, i dont see any bright future for maya
[01:15] <Morrowyn> own.owns
[01:15] <avis> shriphani, mplayer after its properly configured has a equalizer
[01:15] <liquidindian> Healot oo, how do I check that?
[01:15] <avis> you have to read setup docs though
[01:15] <ed__> do you have it installed on Linux?
[01:15] <shriphani> erm only an equaliser ?
[01:15] <Morrowyn> but when i wrapped my maya stuff, im going to learn blender
[01:15] <Morrowyn> ed, open synaptic
[01:15] <Morrowyn> do a search on blender
[01:15] <shriphani> not a pitch modification or something like that ?
[01:15] <Morrowyn> mark it, also mark ; yafray (thats a raytracer for blender)
[01:15] <Healot> liquidindian: are you using ati/nvidia card?
[01:16] <Morrowyn> and sit and wait
[01:16] <avis> shriphani, i'm not going to say it doesn't exist
[01:16] <avis> i'm going to say i have no clue
[01:16] <liquidindian> healot let me check
[01:16] <shriphani> ok
[01:16] <shriphani> ok
[01:16] <avis> perhaps ubuntuforums.org can help you find the app you need
[01:16] <shriphani> hmm lemme get back to gnome
[01:16] <Morrowyn> ed__, yes i have it running on ubuntu btw :)
[01:16] <avis> let me get coffee and ciggy
[01:17] <hoary> hi guys i have a bizarre problem: i can't play any mp3 files with totem, amarok and co.; all essential gstreamer pakets are installed (ugly, multiverse ...) - but mpg321 can play mp3 files O_o
[01:17] <liquidindian> Healot,  integrated Via ProSavage KN133 graphics chip
[01:17] <MyNameIsNotBob> Does anyone here know how to get Enlightenment 17 running on dapper?
[01:17] <Morrowyn> hoary, you need a plugin for gsteamer
[01:17] <avis> liquidindian, what about it ?
[01:17] <Morrowyn> since it a restrictedformat
[01:17] <Healot> liquidindian: how about other media? MPEG for example...
[01:17] <avis> bbl
[01:18] <junior_> hello everybody
[01:18] <hoary> Morrowyn i have installed all necessary plugins, inclusive the ones that are in universe/multiverse
[01:18] <Morrowyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:18] <junior_> algum brasileiro aki?
[01:18] <ed__> thanks.
[01:18] <Healot> junior_: !br
[01:18] <Morrowyn> that worked for me though
[01:18] <themike|away> hoary: try installing the package "libmpeg3-1"
[01:19] <themike|away> or similar
[01:19] <liquidindian> Healot looking for an mpeg...
[01:20] <Healot> just making sure it's the X driver or the plugin
[01:20] <J_P> hi all
[01:20] <ed__> I have mac version of it I never tried to install it on linux does executor work well with it?
[01:21] <hoary> themike: do i have to restart or something? because it doesn't work yet
[01:21] <themike> have you restarted amarok?
[01:21] <Healot> ed__: try first, my g4 works seamlessly
[01:21] <hoary> themike: it wasn't running
[01:21] <hoary> themike: so i started it
[01:22] <hyso> Hi, I need some help please
[01:22] <hyso> I am having a problem when booting... I'll explain it...
[01:22] <themike> ok, then i don't know too.....but i remeber that is has been very difficult to find the right package
[01:22] <hoary> themike: ah now amarok works fine after installing libxine-extracodecs ... so now let's have a look on other programs xD
[01:22] <ed__> It works fine on my G4 400 but I'd like to move over to open source any suggestions?
[01:23] <hyso> when starting Enterprise Volumen Management System in dapper it starts with error messages like: Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block <numbers>
[01:23] <mattm591> hi, i'm trying to set up lirc and it complains "configure: error: *** you need to have the ALSA libraries and drivers from at least version 1.0.9 for this driver" but the problem is i don't know how to get these libraries. i did a synaptic search and found nothing. anyone know where i get them from. thanks
[01:23] <hyso> As I have read dm-0 is something related to raid configurations but I don't have any
[01:24] <iiiears> How do i reboot into "Rescue Mode"?
[01:24] <futlib> so network-admin works fine for everyone?
[01:24] <futlib> cannot believe that
[01:24] <Healot> boot up with the CD, Select Rescue mode? or type rescue on the boot prompt
[01:25] <ed__> My digital camera images resolution opens at wierd resolution could it be because I am in VESA?
[01:25] <sharpei> hi guys, anyone willing to help me with installation of 6.06 ? I have a problem with partitioning...
[01:25] <mattm591> whats wrong with network-admin for u?
[01:25] <no0ke> .
[01:25] <Healot> the alternate CD can do that
[01:25] <iiiears> Healot - Thank You :)
[01:25] <futlib> mattm591, it's so damn slow
[01:25] <futlib> and doesn't remember my places
[01:25] <futlib> I use my laptop at home and at work, but whenever I get home, the work profile gets overwritten with the home settings
[01:26] <joycetick> how do you get out of ctrl+alt+f1?
[01:26] <futlib> literally, I change my profile to home @home and from that moment on, the work profile has the home profiles settings
[01:26] <mattm591> futlib, i found the first few times i started ubuntu i had to set up my ethernet again but it remembered it eventualy. as for its slowness maybe your computers you just need a faster pc :P
[01:26] <themike> lutlib: the profile-thing doesn't work for me too
[01:26] <mattm591> joycetick ctrl+alt+f7
[01:26] <themike> futlib: the profile-thing doesn't work for me too
[01:26] <futlib> mattm591, I don't think this is the case, everything else is fast
[01:26] <futlib> it just takes more than one minute to switch a profile, and another minute when I click "okay" then
[01:26] <joycetick> thanks mattm591
[01:26] <mattm591> futlib, i don't know then, by slow do u mean it takes it a long time to enable a network connection?
[01:27] <futlib> mattm591, yes, think that's what it does
[01:27] <mattm591> futlib, ah i see. yeah this happens to me too, but i just figure it's part of life.
[01:27] <the_rock> hi chickas
[01:27] <mattm591> futlib, it tends to be slowest for me when it's not going to work
[01:27] <futlib> mattm591, I think this sucks. everyday when I get to work, I have to invest about three minutes of waiting for this
[01:27] <k3mper> where can i get source package of dapper's default kernel image (i386)?
[01:27] <futlib> which just is too long since there' usually a lot to do in the morning
[01:28] <mattm591> futlib, fraid i don't know what you can do about that sorry
[01:28] <mattm591> does no one know where i can get alsa libraries?
[01:28] <futlib> hm. but this is a gnome tool, right?
[01:28] <DarkLegacy> I'm having problems with eth0.
[01:29] <DarkLegacy> It's not getting anything from DHCP server.
[01:29] <zipper|> This is very strange... The gfxcard has 2xdvi outputs, which i use for lcd monitor+a hdtv. Trying different parts of your cfgs Morrowyn, the tv is the primary display, no matter which DVI port i put it in. Isnt that a bit wierd? Is it possible to manually define which monitor should be the primary display?
[01:29] <hyphenated> futlib: network-admin is an annoying little b**** for me in breezy :-) haven't upgraded to dapper to see if it's still that way
[01:29] <mattm591> DarkLegacy, do you mean you have no internet connection?
[01:29] <hyphenated> futlib: I gave up on it and resort to 'sudo ifup eth0' etc in a terminal
[01:30] <ccooke> Heh.
[01:30] <ccooke> This weekend I updated my dad's laptop and desktop to Dapper
[01:30] <ccooke> ... as a result, he's decided that he'll be perfectly happy to do the next upgrade on his own
[01:31] <Healot> you suck at upgrading, ccooke, hehe
[01:31] <DarkMageZ> Healot, that comment isn't appropriate for this channel
[01:31] <Healot> just kidding...
[01:32] <Healot> I joke, I joke
[01:32] <mattm591> tut tut
[01:32] <drayen> Just installed Dapper on my shiny new Ferrari 4002 Acer laptop (Wide screen ATI x700, 64bit AMD) but the screen goes black when it tried to launch into the window manager... i've read somewhere that i need to change the primary display back to the LCD, but dont know how to do this.. anyone help?
[01:32] <DarkLegacy> I need help with my PCMCIA card.
[01:32] <DarkLegacy> It's there, detected by Linux, working, but unable to connect to the internet or get an IP from my router.
[01:33] <iiiears> ndiswrapper still gave me fits upgrading to dapper. -  I guess Breezy will just have to do for now. lol
[01:33] <faisal_d> hi, where does apt-get store the cached packages when downloaded?
[01:33] <zipper|> drayen, if you find out how to define which is the primary display, please speak up
[01:33] <mattm591> DarkLegacy, are you using onboard ethernet or a card. if its onboard it wouldn't happen to be an nforce would it
[01:33] <Morrowyn> zipper, dunno, i think either the left or right dvi is the primary display
[01:33] <drayen> zipper|, you got the same problem?
[01:33] <squiddle> faisal_d  /var/cache/apt/
[01:34] <Morrowyn> never looked into it
[01:34] <faisal_d> squiddle, thanx :)
[01:34] <hyphenated> drayen: not sure if it'll help, but my xorg.conf has a line saying this in the "Device" section: Option          "MonitorLayout"         "LVDS, NONE"
[01:34] <hyphenated> 
[01:34] <iiiears> can't complain to loudly though. - gutenprint improved printer installation to a few clicks. - much improved.
[01:34] <squiddle> faisal_d  apt-get autoclean entfernt alle alten *.debs
[01:34] <drayen> hyphenated, humm will give that a try.... where should i find the xorg.conf?
[01:35] <hyphenated> drayen: /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. make a backup copy first :-)
[01:35] <ndazza> Hi! i'm having problems booting ubuntu dapper drake. The Desktop CD hangs at 'mounting root partitions' or something. Any ideas what could be wrong?
[01:35] <squiddle> faisal_d  apt-get autoclean removes all old .debs :)
[01:35] <hyphenated> drayen: I'm not using dapper yet, but I had that in there to make it work nicely on breezy
[01:35] <zipper|> drayen, well, not really. I'm setting up dualview, but my tv keeps on being the primary display no matter what dvi port i put it in.
[01:36] <junior_> drayen: always, always... make a backup
[01:36] <zipper|> Morrowyn, leftof/rightof only changes the position, the tv is still the primary display
[01:36] <Morrowyn> yup
[01:36] <Mikelo> hey guys when i type something in the terminal how do i know the actual location of the binary?
[01:36] <Morrowyn> leftof mean the second monitor is leftof your primary
[01:36] <ndazza> Mikelo: whereis <binary>
[01:36] <Morrowyn> and rightof
[01:36] <Morrowyn> well....
[01:36] <zipper|> Morrowyn, so i need to find a way to make my monitor the primary display, not the tv
[01:37] <Morrowyn> just
[01:37] <Morrowyn> switch the cables
[01:37] <Mikelo> ndazza, that simple? ok!!
[01:37] <Morrowyn> at the back of your vidcard
[01:37] <zipper|> i've tried swapping dvi cables, but as i said before, that doesnt work
[01:37] <Morrowyn> if both are dvi, should be a problem
[01:37] <zipper|> and i cannot comprehend why
[01:37] <zipper|> they are
[01:37] <Morrowyn> oh ok
[01:37] <Morrowyn> thats odd
[01:37] <Mikelo> ndazza, i got two files, how do i unlink one of them?
[01:37] <ndazza> Mikelo: also: which <binary>
[01:38] <Morrowyn> you might
[01:38] <zipper|> yeah, so i'm searching the manual for anything that might look like a "primarydisplay" option
[01:38] <tony14764> Anyone good with tvtime?
[01:38] <zipper|> no luck so far though =/
[01:38] <avis> i see no reason why i cannot stay up another 18 hours without sleep
[01:38] <Morrowyn> and extra id in the metamodes
[01:38] <ndazza> Mikelo: you probably need them both. whereis will also report the location of the man page
[01:38] <Morrowyn> like metamodes: crt0: 1280x1024  crt1: etc.
[01:38] <iiiears> avis - Sleep is for people without the internet. - grin
[01:38] <iiiears> more caffiene please...
[01:38] <zipper|> hmm
[01:39] <avis> i'm just immersing and sharing :)
[01:39] <zipper|> i think i tried that, and making tvout standard HD720p, but that didnt change much
[01:39] <avis> i've got a goal in mind and these are essential-babysteps
[01:39] <Morrowyn> zipper|, how does your xorg.conf look like/
[01:39] <Morrowyn> can you paste it?
[01:39] <Morrowyn> in the pastebin ofc
[01:39] <Healot> to pastebin of course
[01:40] <zipper|> uhm
[01:40] <zipper|> with my last attempt i only got 2 black screens, so i might have a hard time getting my xorg.conf out, but lemme give it a try
[01:40] <zipper|> brb
[01:40] <drayen> hyphenated, that seemdd to work... resolution is rubish, but i can work on that
[01:40] <avis> i have dyndns.org service.  can this be used in a server configuration for a router that uses pppoe to distribute connections and run a server on it ?
[01:41] <hyphenated> drayen: yeah, that's a different issue :-)
[01:41] <avis> it also mentioned something about mx mail.
[01:42] <Healot> avis: just ignore the mx if you don/t have any... you just need to register the IP address to get your Internet service working
[01:42] <chamo> hello
[01:42] <alth> Hmm, I've installed the flashplugin-nonfree package, but Firefox still wants to install it :\
[01:42] <drayen> hyphenated, wow - its says i have a refresh rate of -13785Hz ??? and is stuck at 640x480 :(
[01:42] <avis> ok i have done that however i am trying to figure out how to utilize the service for my linux learning needs either server or application wise
[01:42] <hyphenated> excellent.
[01:43] <Healot> alth: have you restart FF?
[01:43] <mwe> alth: the official ubuntu firefox?
[01:43] <alth> Healot: Yeah.
[01:43] <avis> my router logs in for me since its a dynamic ip that doesn't chance
[01:43] <alth> mwe: Yeah.
[01:43] <avis> change
[01:43] <Healot> avis: do you know any dyndns client?
[01:43] <zipper_> Hmm, Morrowyn, if i remove the TV cable from my card, x starts up fine on my monitor, and the resolution is even correct. My xorg file is here : http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1740
[01:43] <avis> drayden it could not recognize your monitor ?
[01:43] <Morrowyn> ok
[01:44] <avis> client ?
[01:44] <drayen> avis, it seemed to when i looked in xorg.conf
[01:44] <alth> Er, mwe*
[01:44] <avis> zipper dont plug anything next to the pci slot next to your agp
[01:44] <mwe> alth: I don't know why it didn't do it, but make sure there is a link in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ to the plugin
[01:44] <Healot>  alth: nothing to do with kernel
[01:44] <Morrowyn> zipper, thats a funky xorg
[01:45] <Healot> maybe the link to the plugin is missing
[01:45] <zipper_> avis, i dont have anything there
[01:45] <Morrowyn> take my xorg.conf  , and place your tv refresh rates on the secondmonitor spot
[01:45] <zipper_> i have a audigy4 4 slots from the gfx card
[01:45] <minimec> Hi folks. I have a question about 'beagle'. First time I tried 'beagle' on a breezy machine, I had to load the the beagled-deamon and then the 'best' Software to have an icon in the systray and the 'F12'-function. In dapper, it seems that loading the beagled-deamon should do both... loding the deamon and the search mask. But I don't have any icon in the systray and no F12-funciton. Did I miss something?
[01:45] <alth> flashplayer.xpt  mwe?
[01:45] <alth> minimec: beagle-search ^_^
[01:45] <avis> zipper if you have nothing in yoru xorg.conf regarding the detection of the monitor you need to run something so you can manually enter the refresh rates yourself
[01:45] <drayen> avis, yes, the screen section lists it as 1280x800, which is correct - but KDE is only running at 640x480
[01:46] <alth> Healot: It's just the wiki page said it'd only work on 386. Or something.
[01:46] <avis> ctrl + alt + plus ?
[01:46] <avis> a couple of times ?
[01:46] <Healot> alth: really, the kernel doesn't matter, expect for 64-bit CPUs and Mac CPUs
[01:46] <avis> or system preferences
[01:46] <avis> screen resolution
[01:47] <ndazza> alth: that'd probablye be i386 (as opposed to x86_64 or ppc)
[01:47] <alth> Ah.
[01:47] <Healot> alth: open the Firefox Preference.... find the Edit Action button... see if the dialog have SWF file in it?
[01:47] <chamo> I can't reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx!! any idea how to resolve this http://pastebin.com/759493 ?
[01:47] <minimec> alth: Ok :-) But I still don't have any Icon in the systray and no F12? DO I always have to start the beagle-search again?
[01:48] <alth> Open up the what, Healot?
[01:48] <Mikelo> anybody here play gav?
[01:48] <alth> minimec: Dunno, I just put a launcher to it in my Gnome toolbar ^_^
[01:48] <Healot> alth: your PC casing, hehe
[01:48] <holycow> allright
[01:48] <avis> i'm afraid my french is very limited
[01:48] <holycow> anyone having that no sound problem after dist upgrading to dapper?
[01:49] <GuerillaTactiks> Is it possible to accelerate gnome or kde using the gfx card?
[01:49] <alth> Healot: Eh?
[01:49] <drayen> Anyone else got a widescreen laptop with a rez of 1280x800? can they tell me what they have in thier Monitor Section of xorg.conf?
[01:49] <holycow> i solved my problem anyone need to know what it was?
[01:49] <avis> holycow why dont you do the dirty deed and backup your data and do a proper dapper final install cd ?
[01:49] <minimec> alth: OK. That should do it, but... Hmm... what about F12?
[01:49] <avis> its just a days work getting things back to normal :)
[01:49] <holycow> avis, dude, your not talking to a newb
[01:49] <alth> drayen: I do, but it's not booted at the moment. Sorry.
[01:49] <alth> minimec: What do you mean?
[01:50] <avis> holycow, i dont care at what level of linux experience you are at but if you want to resolve your sound issues i gave you one solution to do so.
[01:50] <holycow> avis, the thing about linux is that you are not permanently stuck as a newb unlike windows, one graduates to the next level of l33tness every time you resolve an issue :)
[01:50] <zipper_> Morrowyn, i'm not sure about the metamodes... Should they be "MonitorResolution,TVResolution" ?
[01:50] <holycow> avis, did i ask  you for a solution?
[01:50] <holycow> avis, please read what people read more carefully, it helps
[01:51] <ocenanda> Salut  tous (hi all) !!
[01:51] <avis> your whining about soundcard not working and you've been taking advice from everyone
[01:51] <darth_> hey i need to talk to somebody about using the LiveCD
[01:51] <BarBaz> hi. I'm unable to open windows disks i see in Places->Computer. Is it expected behaviour?
[01:51] <darth_> can i get a PM?
[01:51] <vader> drayen, I am using 1280x763 on my  lappy
[01:51] <BarBaz> .. both fat and ntfs
[01:51] <minimec> alth: Normally in a working beagle-configuration, you should be able to fire up the search engine with F12 (see beagle-settings)
[01:51] <holycow> avis, go f your self bro
[01:51] <GuerillaTactiks> Is ubuntu inconsistant, because I followed the instructions to play mpeg4 (xvid) and they still dont play
[01:51] <holycow> :) no really
[01:51] <reZo> What's a random NIC that's supported in Ubuntu?
[01:51] <alth> F12 doesn't work for me, minimec.
[01:52] <avis> holycow your language is gutter talk and this is not the place for that kind of behavior
[01:52] <holycow> lol
[01:52] <reZo> darth_, where abouts in New Zealand are you from?
[01:52] <Healot> holycow !
[01:52] <holycow> go away assface :)
[01:52] <holycow> anyway
[01:52] <avis> perhaps if you learned how to behave like a gentleman and grew up you might learn a few thigns
[01:52] <avis> thigns
[01:52] <reZo> Shit
[01:52] <avis> things
[01:52] <holycow> lol
[01:52] <holycow> avis, your a retard
[01:52] <holycow> anyway
[01:52] <GuerillaTactiks> holycow go away
[01:52] <holycow> anyone still having that no sound problem?
[01:52] <holycow> i've got a potential solution
[01:52] <ndazza> was anyone having it to begin with?
[01:53] <minimec> alth: Well it doesn't work for me either, but I would like it to work...
[01:53] <concept10> where are security updates/bulletins for ubuntu posted?
[01:53] <holycow> actually yep ndazza
[01:53] <holycow> lots of people
[01:53] <ndazza> perhaps a wiki page would be appropriate then
[01:53] <GuerillaTactiks> I get a no video problem in avi files..  sound is fine
[01:53] <holycow> ndazza, perhaps it would, if you like you can make one, i know there was someone here looking for the solution tho, i'm only interestedin helping them
[01:54] <alth> minimec: Perhaps bind a global key combination to it?
[01:54] <alth> In gconf?
[01:55] <drayen> vader, humm... not sure if that will cut it
[01:55] <vader> mine is a Compaq Presario V2555CA
[01:56] <minimec> alth: Even that sohould be possible, I do agree with you. But this is a function that normally beagle should handle, not the windows-manager. So beagle still semms to be a little buggy in dapper...
[01:56] <concept10> Seveas, where could I get that usplash preview app
[01:56] <chamo> any idea how I can corretly reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx??? I have an error "dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to
[01:56] <chamo> "
[01:56] <chamo> cf http://pastebin.com/759493
[01:56] <chamo> thus I cant launch X anymore :/
[01:57] <alth> minimec: Agreed.
[01:57] <minimec> alth: Ok. THX anyway...
[01:57] <minimec> alth: cu
[01:58] <Bobakitoo> hi, ubuntu server use kernel linux-image-server but no linux-restricted-server is avaible. do i need to change kernel to desktop one(witch include nvidia stuff) in order to get my wireless card to work?
[01:58] <chamo> Anyone got an idea? Im stuck since a few days :/
[01:58] <dou213> chamo, reboot into failsafe and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[01:58] <alth> Peace, minimec.
[01:58] <freaks> hi there
[01:58] <thoreauputic> holycow: enough is enough - you passed the barrier with your recent remarks
[01:58] <dou213> your x server should start then
[01:59] <NUB> !x
[01:59] <ubotu> somebody said x was a portable, network-transparent window system.
[01:59] <avis> anyone bored and on a non-production computer but a desktop ?  try XGL :)  it rocks !!!
[02:00] <Bobakitoo> where are the ath_pci module in ubuntu server? (the initial install had the wireless card working but installed kernel do not suport it)
[02:00] <ndazza> avis: i would but dapper won't install :-.
[02:00] <avis> ndazza, what are your issues ?
[02:00] <NUB> !x ati
[02:00] <ubotu> NUB: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:00] <avis> there are different upgrade steps for different level distros
[02:01] <ndazza> cd won't boot. Attempts to boot, gives me the installer options screen, choosing any option (except memtest or boot off 1st hd) causes installer to hang on "mounting root partitions"
[02:01] <chamo> dou213, even without network ?
[02:01] <avis> before you tried to boot the cd did you check against md5sum ?
[02:01] <ndazza> avis: yes
[02:02] <avis> ok
[02:02] <nnz0id> ndazza disconnect all usb devices that u have
[02:02] <avis> i would do a low level format of the hard drive
[02:02] <avis> powmax is popular and works on a variety of ide drives
[02:02] <ndazza> nnz0id: ok...
[02:02] <nnz0id> theres a thread on forums with the same problem
[02:02] <dou213> chamo, what do u mean even without network?
[02:02] <hermann> hallo
[02:02] <Healot> low-level format... never heard of ppl doing that since 1995
[02:02] <ndazza> avis: i was under the impression low level formatting was non-existant these days
[02:03] <ndazza> manufacturer sets the drive geometry and that's it
[02:03] <dou213> chamo, just do that command in failsafe mode, ur x server will work afterwards, did work for me
[02:03] <dou213> i had the same problem as u
[02:03] <avis> ndazza, not at all.  not for me.  i've run into linux distro partitions that would not be nuked.
[02:03] <chamo> ok
[02:03] <ndazza> anyways, i'll try that usb tip, thanks nnz0id
[02:03] <Healot> avis: every OS has chances to be intruded. even GNU/Linux...
[02:03] <ndazza> avis: not even with dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda ?
[02:03] <avis> i also did it in 1995 believing it would block out my 8088's bad blocks
[02:04] <avis> ndazza, you'll have to forgive me but i have no experience with dd command
[02:04] <Nolt> avis: when i try compile verlihub i have this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15125
[02:04] <Nolt> do you know what can be wrong ?
[02:04] <NUB> can somone tell me how to get the x to work after installing it ubuntu?  it fails to boot, ati x800
[02:04] <ndazza> avis: like copy, but for devices
[02:05] <ndazza> anyways, i'm off to try disconnecting my usb stuff
[02:05] <ndazza> later!
[02:05] <avis> ndazza almost like cloning ?
[02:06] <minimec> avis: PentiumM  1.6GHz CPU  with a ATi Mobility Radeon 9600 64MB... Is that enough to run xgl smoothly?
[02:06] <Healot> YES
[02:06] <ndazza> avis: yes
[02:06] <Healot> but could be a but slow
[02:06] <avis> minimac yes it would be
[02:06] <Healot> bit*
[02:06] <Nolt> anybody know what is wrong ? ./configure didnt show any errors and when i make i have this => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15125
[02:07] <minimec> avis: So I'll give it a try. ;)
[02:07] <ndazza> avis: keeps copying blocks of data from the source file to the destination file till the source runs out or the destination is full
[02:07] <chamo> dou213, how did you reinstall the drivers afterwards ?
[02:07] <avis> Nolt i can't make sense of coptic language
[02:07] <tuxtheslacker> hey guys, does anyone know of an rss reader plugin for evolution?
[02:07] <chamo> I want to install xorg-driver and new fglrx related to my kernel version
[02:07] <Nolt> avis: :(:(
[02:07] <avis> minimec !
[02:07] <avis> hold on !
[02:08] <minimec> avis: ?
[02:08] <mp3guy> does anyone know what folder the default ubuntu desktop backgrounds are stored in?
[02:08] <chamo> lemme try brb
[02:08] <avis> all those of you who are interested in installing XGL replacing xorg please see this url http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[02:08] <patrick_> how do you enable other languages to be typed in, such as chinese?
[02:08] <avis> the official ubuntu documentation is not good
[02:09] <minimec> mp3guy: Hmmm... somewhere in /usr/share ;)
[02:09] <avis> patrick_, you defined a language when you setup your os
[02:09] <Healot> patrick_: you need input method server, and fonts
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> does anyone know of an evolution e-mail plugin to add an RSS reader to it.
[02:10] <Healot> IME servers like IIMF or SCIM, and input engine like anthy
[02:10] <avis> tuxmaniac, i have no idea but if you find one i'd like to know.  i miss the old evolution.  however mozilla-thunderbird can do mail and rss and news but you must provide your own rss
[02:10] <patrick_> yeah i know, but is there anyway to have two langauges? i do some work in chinese and on suse and other distros you can use multiple languages
[02:10] <Celeste> hi
[02:10] <avis> the old evolution was neat because it was all geeky and linuxy
[02:10] <Healot> !ime
[02:10] <Celeste> I need help
[02:10] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[02:10] <Celeste> please
[02:10] <Celeste> anyone here?
[02:10] <avis> hi Celestar
[02:11] <Celeste> I've done something stupd
[02:11] <avis> hi Celeste
[02:11] <Celeste> hi avis
[02:11] <avis> we've all done something stupid
[02:11] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> Hi. Can anyone here help me setup wireless on a Fulitsu Amilo A1655G laptop?
[02:11] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> I'm running Dapper 6.06
[02:11] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> I've followed the instructions on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#head-e70dd6b5c57894d32e3eddc4f3e21d7d6d02230f
[02:11] <Celeste> you know  CTRL + D  I guess  (like exit in the shell)
[02:11] <avis> yes
[02:11] <tuxmaniac> avis?
[02:11] <avis> yes ?
[02:12] <avis> tuxmaniac, i dont know about evolution but mozilla-thunderbird does rss if you provide feeds
[02:12] <Celeste> good ...
[02:12] <Celeste> http://sial.org/pbot/17595?ln=on&submit=Format+it%21
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> tuxmaniac, he meant to send that to me, if that's what you're talking about :-P
[02:12] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> I've determined I have a Broadcom BCM4318 wireless card? chip?
[02:12] <avis> and mail, usenet, etc
[02:12] <Celeste> line 21  ... I pressed   CTRL + D by a mistake in line 21
[02:12] <Celeste> http://sial.org/pbot/17595?ln=on&submit=Format+it%21
[02:12] <tuxmaniac> tuxtheslacker: ah ok
[02:12] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> And I've extracted the firmware from the driver CD that came with my laptop, using fwcutter.
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> avis, I much prefer evolution because it's much more light weight.
[02:13] <znh> Hello. Why is there in dapper a bittorrent tracker installed by default?
[02:13] <avis> i will switch to evolution then because i'm into lightweight
[02:13] <Bobakitoo> someone know why Atheros wireless card work in 6.06 desktop but not in server?
[02:13] <avis> i have not been able to locate a plugin for rss though
[02:13] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> Now, if I use iwconfig, I can see my wireless card, but I cannot use it.
[02:13] <Healot> znh: you don/t like bittorrent client?
[02:13] <Celeste> avis, what will my action do bad to linux?
[02:13] <znh> Healot, tracker != client
[02:14] <Healot> znh: the tracker installed? I don't think so
[02:14] <hmpedersen> It seems I have to reinstall my computer now..
[02:14] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> The one problem that I can see is that it states "Access Point: Invalid" and I haven't been able to change this.
[02:14] <tuxtheslacker> Bobakitoo, I'd say because servers are general not running on a wireless computer...
[02:14] <avis> Celeste, of all people why would you think that i might know ?  i'll look at it and see what i could possibly conclude.  there are alot more adept people in here.  lemme look
[02:14] <gnarkill> Problem: i cant activate my wireless card in ubuntu breezy .. 5.10. what should i do?
[02:15] <Bobakitoo> tuxtheslcaker: i use my server as wireless access point
[02:15] <Celeste> avis, because you've been the only one saying a word to me *g*
[02:15] <Bobakitoo> how i can enable wireless card on ubuntu-server?
[02:15] <avis> Celeste, something else was using the respositories at the time something like synaptic or aptitude
[02:16] <zach> can anyone help me setup dual monitors with an ati 9500? the 2nd monitor is just displaying brown...at the login window i can move mouse across both monitors
[02:16] <Celeste> avis, no it was me I pressed CTRL + D  (line 21)
[02:16] <avis> or the upgrade-notifier
[02:16] <Celeste> avis, so I was not root anymore
[02:16] <Celeste> what may I do now?
[02:16] <avis> ok lemme look
[02:16] <Celeste> it got stock in the middle of the installation avi
[02:17] <avis> apt-get remove ude ; apt-get install ude
[02:17] <Celeste> ok
[02:17] <kane77> hi everybody...
[02:17] <Celeste> thank you avis!
[02:18] <avis> find another repository and dont ctrl-c or d
[02:18] <avis> welcome
[02:18] <kane77> how is beagle realy used??
[02:18] <avis> sigh
[02:18] <avis> i dont know that much
[02:18] <zach> does anyone know if the dock in osx is always on top? or is it set so nothing can go over the bottom of the window?
[02:18] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1655G
[02:19] <avis> zach you can probably sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:19] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1
[02:19] <avis> i'd bet it would detect dual monitors
[02:19] <zach> thanks!
[02:19] <avis> but dont make a mistake and make backup of xorg.conf
[02:19] <zach> lol how?
[02:19] <avis> how cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf conf.bak
[02:20] <zach> then how would i restore it if needed?
[02:20] <avis> cp conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:20] <zach> thanks
[02:20] <avis> updatedb
[02:20] <avis> and locate
[02:20] <reZo> what's a random NIC brand / model that works in Ubuntu, prefer PCI ones.
[02:20] <avis> and whereis
[02:20] <avis> are your friends
[02:21] <avis> 3com 3c905x
[02:21] <reZo> sweet
[02:21] <avis> abo, b, c you got it made :)
[02:21] <avis> a
[02:22] <avis> Fujitsu !
[02:22] <avis> is that you ?
[02:22] <zach> meh it didnt detect them
[02:22] <Fujitsu> Hi, avis...
[02:22] <avis> hello :)
[02:22] <Fujitsu> avis, this is me.
[02:22] <avis> must be different person with wifi
[02:22] <Fujitsu> Not Fujitsu_AMILO_A1.
[02:22] <avis> okies
[02:22] <avis> didn't think so
[02:23] <Bobakitoo> what in linux-image-server that is not in linux-image-version-686 for exemple?
[02:23] <zach> what are the open source drivers ive tried flgrx and those never seem to work...
[02:23] <avis> my wifi is going to be easy, input 63 char WPA-PSK TKIP into install and gateway, two dns servers, and static ip address, gateway.   simple.  tedious !  but simple
[02:24] <avis> supported out of the box
[02:24] <kane77> what is the executable for search (beagle)?? or how can I add shortcut to it??
[02:25] <Hajuu> hey does anyone know of a lightweight alternative to gdm thats in the breezy ubuntu repositories?
[02:25] <ynef> kane77: "beagle" is the executable's name. What desktop environment are you using?
[02:25] <kane77> gnome
[02:25] <avis> gnome is not a display manager
[02:25] <avis> nm
[02:25] <avis> sorry
[02:26] <ynef> Hajuu: xdm, kdm, gdm -- the three great ones. xdm is ugly, but should also be lighter
[02:26] <jhunter> I'm still struggling to get nVidia drivers working. Everything installed ok, but the xserver just won't start. The log isn't very informative, just says that the kernal failed to load and check everything. Any suggestions?
[02:26] <avis> can fluxbox run both gnome and kde apps and by now is it able to integrate them into its menu ?
[02:26] <ynef> kane77: then I can't help you, but I suppose that the terminology is "launcher" or something
[02:26] <kane77> ynef, and trying to execute beagle it says that "bash: beagle: command not found"
[02:26] <Bobakitoo> Jhunter yes nvidia driver is bugged in 6.06
[02:27] <avis> jhunter did you go on a quest for XGL ?
[02:27] <Bobakitoo> you must edit xorg.conf your self and the enable script fill in worng identifier
[02:27] <ynef> kane77: interesting -- you do have it installed, right?
[02:27] <dubidu> hi all
[02:27] <jhunter> Not yet, not until I get a usable screen
[02:27] <dubidu>  i get a strange error installing nvida drivers from nvidia installer
[02:27] <avis> do not enter wrong identifier for XGL
[02:27] <dubidu> when i do startx it says me that the nvidia module and xorg module are of different versions
[02:27] <zach> has anyone gotten dual monitors with atis in dapper? if so please help
[02:27] <Bobakitoo> jhunter check if you got ATI identifier
[02:28] <dubidu> xorg module is 8762 and nvidia module is 8756
[02:28] <Bobakitoo> for some reseaon the enable script detected a ati card and set that as identifier
[02:28] <dubidu> installing 8762 drivers it is all ok but..it seems strange..do you?
[02:28] <Hajuu> ynef: So if I put xdm on, and remove gdm and gnome but keep gtk (if thats possible) then I can still run all my gnome apps?
[02:28] <avis> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep ATI
[02:28] <kane77> ynef, yes... when I run Places->Search it runs a beagle search... but when I try to add a button to pannel "Search for files" it only gives me the old search...
[02:29] <zach> avis is that for me?
[02:29] <Bobakitoo> hajuu no, if you left only gtk then only gtk aps can run
[02:29] <Ng> zach: I have, but only with the xorg driver, not the binary ati driver
[02:29] <avis> that was for jhunter
[02:29] <avis> i think
[02:29] <Bobakitoo> you can replace gdm by xdm and cotinuing using gnome and gtk aps tho
[02:29] <Hajuu> ah ok.. just wanted to remove gnome completely
[02:30] <Hajuu> so guess ill say my goodbyes to gedit
[02:30] <Hajuu> lol
[02:30] <zach> Ng: is the xorg driver hard to configure? is that the thing you run from terminal....(sorry im new at linux still lol)
[02:30] <avis> the application base for gnome is so large
[02:30] <chamo> okay
[02:30] <[bsd] > hi, friends!
[02:30] <M|NDL|GHT> Can someone please explain to me why there is no amarok-gstreamer package in Dapper? Ive been searching for the reason on the forums and a lot of other places and the closest to an anser Ive come is "gstreamer is not stable enough in Dapper"... anyone got an answer and some links to prove it? :D
[02:30] <avis> hi bsd !
[02:30] <chamo> dou213, now that works! thanks!
[02:30] <Ng> zach: it's pretty easy, but if you have a newer ATi card you probably want to use their binary driver. I'm running a pretty old radeon
[02:30] <ynef> kane77: looking at the file list, it seems that beagle might be started with the command "beagle-search" -- one of many files installed into /usr/bin that start with "beagle"
[02:30] <zach> Ng: im running an ati 9500 non pro with 64mbs is that considered old?
[02:30] <avis> MIND, the proof relies on you
[02:31] <kane77> ynef, yes that's it... many thanx...
[02:31] <M|NDL|GHT> avis, didnt get what u mean :)
[02:31] <zexr0> !divx
[02:31] <chamo> hehe
[02:31] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:31] <Ng> zach: no that's new enough to be supported by the binary driver. perhaps googling or searching ubuntuforums.org will turn something up?
[02:31] <avis> google :)
[02:31] <ynef> M|NDL|GHT: I think that basically just means that the Ubuntu team don't feel like supporting it for 5 years because it may be too buggy to them :)
[02:31] <zach> most guides end up ruining my x11 conf file
[02:31] <ynef> M|NDL|GHT: I'm sure you can find it elsewhere
[02:32] <jhunter> No, - I did get the ATI from the original attempts, but I've now downloaded the driver from nVidia - that's ok. Do I have to uninstall anything from previous attemts, or is it just in the xorg.conf file
[02:32] <Elko> ls
[02:32] <Elko> heh
[02:32] <avis> ynef what release are you referencing ?
[02:32] <elfomarcio> hi
[02:32] <Bazzi> M|NDL|GHT: whats wrong with amarok-xine?
[02:32] <ynef> avis: any -- if ubuntu doesn't want to officially include it, it is probably for a good reason
[02:32] <M|NDL|GHT> Bazzi, I cant get it to work? :$
[02:32] <M|NDL|GHT> :D
[02:32] <Bazzi> why is that so?
[02:32] <chamo> dou213, are you there ?
[02:33] <kane77> one more question... what is the nvidia-glx drivers... I installed it and I think I lost 3d... (eg. screensavers that are 3d doesnt show up at all... just a blank screen...)
[02:33] <avis> ynef what was it about amarok that was so special to you ?  do you have an ipod ?
[02:33] <ynef> avis: you have the wrong guy, i answered M|NDL|GHT :)
[02:33] <avis> ugh
[02:33] <avis> ciggy tiem
[02:33] <ynef> avis: I use moc personally, an ncurses player
[02:33] <avis> i'm disabled people give me a break :)
[02:34] <ynef> kane77: it's the drivers you use to get OpenGL in Linux on Nvidia cards -- that it killed 3D for you doesn't seem right at all
[02:34] <shriphani> guys i installed all necessary dependencies for audacity but it still says dependencies are not installed
[02:34] <kane77> ynef, I believe I need legacy drivers I have ancient TNT2
[02:34] <shriphani> any ideas ?
[02:35] <ynef> kane77: ah, yes, you do -- TNT2 is too old to be supported by the newer drivers AFAIK
[02:35] <kane77> ynef, how can I install them?
[02:35] <Bazzi> M|NDL|GHT whats failing?
[02:35] <Ron_o> the only idea I have shriphani is to check out synaptic and see if audacity is broken.
[02:35] <Ron_o> if audacity isn't in Synaptic, then I don't know.
[02:35] <shriphani> i dont think it is in synaptic
[02:36] <Ron_o> how did you d/l?
[02:36] <redlounge> hi everyone
[02:36] <shriphani> i mean i got the debian package
[02:36] <Ron_o> OK..
[02:36] <shriphani> from the website
[02:36] <ynef> kane77: install "nvidia-glx-legacy" instead ;)
[02:36] <Ron_o> I don't know.
[02:36] <chamo> anyone know how I can resolve a "divert" error while trying to reinstall my xorg-driver-fglrx packet with apt-get ??? Im stuck... cf http://pastebin.com/759493
[02:36] <Ron_o> check out Synaptic.
[02:36] <shriphani> apt-get install says no such package
[02:36] <Ron_o> you should always d/l from there if ever in doubt.
[02:36] <mirak> sladen: hey, I have realised that base-config is deprecated in dapper, though I don't find any tutorial on the web saying how to proceed now
[02:37] <Ron_o> shriphani, do you have all the repositories available?
[02:37] <kane77> ynef, that sounds logical :)) why don't I ever come up with it... :D
[02:37] <Vissud> anyone have a solution to this? I can record from my mic, but I can't just plug in an input source and listen
[02:37] <shriphani> Ron_o, i have a hunch that my apt/sources.list is messed after i tried to mess around with dapper
[02:37] <Ron_o> then upgrade the list.
[02:37] <ynef> shriphani: post it somewhere, let's see it
[02:37] <Ron_o> !repository
[02:37] <ubotu> Ron_o: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:37] <shriphani> ok
[02:37] <Ron_o> !repositories
[02:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:38] <redlounge> i installed dapper a few days ago and now i have sometimes problems with the sudo command. i type in the console e.g. 'sudo ls' and then the console hangs, then i can not start any process that has to do with root privileges. not in the terminal, not in gnome. i can even not shutdown... anyone has an idea what to check/do?
[02:38] <Fujitsu_AMILO> 
[02:38] <Ron_o> shriphani, check out the wiki. It will help you out to update your repository.
[02:38] <M|NDL|GHT> Bazzi, my brains? :D  Never got xine to work and gstreamer seems to be the most right choice... but ok, amarok speaks xine... how do I get my soundcard to speak xine? It does not work default... if u got a URL for me to read up on the subject, that would be just fine and I wont bother u guys :)
[02:38] <Ron_o> sorry, I'm too new to remember exactly how.
[02:39] <Ron_o> !sound
[02:39] <Bazzi> M|NDL|GHT: just configure it in amarok to choose ALSA/OSS/whatever fits you. and dont forget to install libxine-extracodecs
[02:39] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[02:39] <shriphani> just 3 links there !!!!
[02:39] <Fujitsu_AMILO> I got disconnected earlier - has anyone responded to my wireless question?
[02:39] <shriphani> http://pastebin.com/759578
[02:39] <shriphani> man i'd be blown
[02:39] <kane77> ... how do I change the default boot in grub?? there's a line "default 0" I believe I need to change it, but to what..?
[02:39] <M|NDL|GHT> Bazzi, tried that when Dapper was alpha...didnt work...but I will give it another try...thanks :D
[02:40] <avis> Fujitsu_AMILO,  there is always ndiswrapper should you not be able to do it the standard way
[02:40] <Bazzi> M|NDL|GHT but I think the amarok 1.4 packages do have amarok-gstreamer
[02:40] <ynef> kane77: post the file somewhere and tell us what OS you want to boot per default
[02:40] <M|NDL|GHT> oh...there is a 1.4 ...  an "official" one for Dapper? :$
[02:40] <grap> hi
[02:40] <avis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto#head-28c697721b2f5d2352e43074a55f4621c415293d
[02:40] <avis> read that
[02:40] <peg> where the heck do I download the sparc version of Dapper Drake , I cant find it in the main download site
[02:40] <ynef> kane77: or that ;)
[02:40] <Ron_o> !grub
[02:40] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:40] <Fujitsu_AMILO> Hi, avis. Thanks for the response. I had previously tried ndiswrapper but got no response at all. Using the kernel broadcom driver has been the most promising approach so far.
[02:40] <avis> and trust me its not complete as far as grub goes
[02:41] <avis> ok
[02:41] <Bazzi> M|NDL|GHT: done by j. riddell so it's done by a competent person but it is not officially supported
[02:41] <avis> so what is the problem Fujitsu_AMILO ?
[02:41] <M|NDL|GHT> later yall, thanks for the help...gotta play with my dapper...erhm...didnt sound right... well well...l8er yall
[02:41] <peg> anyone know
[02:41] <nosklo> peg: is there a sparc version?
[02:41] <avis> extract tgz and nano the README
[02:41] <Ron_o> peg, I saw the sparc version there.
[02:41] <Fujitsu_AMILO> I have managed to set up my wireless card so I can see it with 'iwconfig'
[02:41] <Ron_o> !update
[02:41] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Ron_o
[02:41] <shriphani> Ron_o, i think there is nothing in my apt sources
[02:41] <avis> ok
[02:41] <grap> i m having some trouble with nvidia drivers, I tried to install the propietary drivers (like always) but it failed and then i installed the ones from apt-get but now, my X wont start until i reinstall the propietary driver, can anybody help?
[02:41] <Ron_o> I know I saw it.
[02:42] <nosklo> I didn't know... I thought there were only i386, 64 and ppc versions
[02:42] <avis> i have only dont wireless once so bear with me
[02:42] <peg> nosklo, http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2006-05/sunflash.20060530.1.xml
[02:42] <Vissud> anyone have a solution to this? I can record from my mic, but I can't just plug in an input source and listen
[02:42] <avis> on linux
[02:42] <Ron_o> I saw t on the bittorrent page.
[02:42] <Fujitsu_AMILO> avis: However, it is not assigned an ip address, and I cannot change the 'Access Point' value from 'Invalid'
[02:42] <peg> Ron_o, where can you poit me me to it
[02:42] <shriphani> can you please tell me where i can get the apt-get sources ?
[02:42] <nosklo> cool!
[02:42] <Ron_o> peg, I'm sorry. I can't access the www right now.
[02:42] <Ron_o> I could otherwise.
[02:42] <grap> shriphani, look for souce-o-matic in google
[02:43] <peg> Ron_o, all I see is x86 powerPC and AMD64
[02:43] <shriphani> souce or source ?
[02:43] <Ron_o> I'm sorry peg, I know it's there. If not then I apologize.
[02:43] <nosklo> peg: http://sparc.ubuntu.com/
[02:43] <Ron_o> I can't help you beyond this.
[02:43] <avis> Fujitsu_AMILO, i have never experimented with wireless and ubuntu yet.  you definitely need to assign your SSID and your WEP or WPA-PSK
[02:43] <grap> shriphani, source, sorry
[02:43] <shriphani> ok thanks
[02:43] <chamo> dou213  ??
[02:44] <Fujitsu_AMILO> avis: I've disabled WEP/WPA in case that was the problem. I've assigned my ESSID.
[02:44] <avis> Fujitsu_AMILO, if you can let it accept defaults perhaps if you could get into gnome then you could use the network manager to set it up ?
[02:44] <avis> does your router have mac filtering?
[02:44] <zach> Hello when i try to use ati config i always get errors such as                zach@ubuntu:~$ aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1
[02:44] <zach> Warning: Failed to set hardware overlay to head 1 immediately.
[02:44] <zach> Warning: Option 'DesktopSetup' doesn't affect running session.
[02:44] <zach> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:44] <zach> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-3
[02:44] <zach> aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor.
[02:44] <grap> can anyone help? im in nvidia trouble
[02:44] <peg> nosklo, dude http://sparc.ubuntu.com/ does seam to be loading, are you having better luck
[02:44] <Fujitsu_AMILO> avis: Everything seems to work in Network manager. I can configure and activate the interface. But despite all this, it doesn't work.
[02:45] <Fujitsu_AMILO> I've tried ifconfig eth1 up
[02:45] <avis> so its an open infrastructure network and you need to define SSID to connect to
[02:45] <ynef> grap: what does the log file tell you? what error messages do you get?
[02:45] <avis> someone help Fujitsu_AMILO
[02:45] <jwl007> could someone try pinging krellinst.org for me?
[02:46] <ynef> jwl007: doesn't work for me (sweden)
[02:46] <avis> Fujitsu_AMILO, perhaps try ubuntuforums.org
[02:46] <jwl007> thanks ynef
[02:46] <b0ef> ehlo
[02:46] <peg> jwl007, is not pingign
[02:46] <kane77> ynef, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15128 that's the paste of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:46] <jhunter> grap: glad I'm not the only one trying to get this working - same problem, I'm pulling my hair out here!
[02:46] <peg> nosklo, dude http://sparc.ubuntu.com/ does seam to be loading, are you having better luck
[02:46] <avis> while people pass be here, problems are resolved, and the experts wake up
[02:47] <Fujitsu_AMILO> avis: I'll have a look there. Thanks for your time, avis
[02:47] <grap> ynef, jhunter good luxk!
[02:47] <shriphani> ok guys i got an apt sources list
[02:47] <avis> Fujitsu_AMILO, i have nothing but time :)
[02:47] <shriphani> so do i plainly go and put it in /etc/apt/source.list ?
[02:47] <kane77> ynef, and I want to change the default boot to windows... (you know i share this PC with dad and he gets mad when he turns on comp and the windows doesn't start up..)
[02:47] <b0ef> is the md5 sum available anywhere for ubuntu-6.06?
[02:47] <ompaul> shriphani, where did you get it from
[02:48] <avis> scroll down from the link that you clicked on that specified that country
[02:48] <shriphani> source-o-matic
[02:48] <Ron_o> b0ef, it must be.
[02:48] <ompaul> b0ef, www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:48] <Ron_o> you mean the application?
[02:48] <grap> ynef, basically it said that the version did not match
[02:48] <nosklo> peg: nope
[02:48] <grap> so i install the propietary ones and all works fine
[02:48] <nosklo> peg; trying to find
[02:48] <grap> but when i reboot, it just pops out the same message
[02:49] <ynef> kane77: change the default to 5 -- if that's wrong, then to 6... don't know if the "other operating systems" line counts as one, so experiment :)
[02:49] <b0ef> Ron_o: no the md5 for the iso cd (x86)
[02:49] <shriphani> i got a set of repos do i just put them in my sources list ?
[02:49] <nosklo> peg: google shows a lot of ubuntu-6.06-rc-server-sparc.iso but all of them seem to be missing
[02:49] <peg> nosklo, thanks, it almost looks as though it disapeared
[02:49] <grap> shriphani, yes,
[02:49] <shriphani> ok grap thanks
[02:49] <kane77> ynef, ok I will... RESTARTING....
[02:49] <ompaul> shriphani, yes you can overwrite the existing file on your machine by doing this, in a terminal >>gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list<< and take your time - I was not finished --
[02:49] <ompaul> !repeat
[02:49] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Please give it 10 to 15 minutes before asking a second time, thanks.
[02:50] <shriphani> ok
[02:50] <peg> nosklo, so I am not going crazy ir realy did disapear
[02:50] <EmxBA> hi
[02:50] <ompaul> cheers :)
[02:50] <b0ef> ompaul: it's not on that page, as far as I can see
[02:50] <grap> ynef, can you help?
[02:50] <EmxBA> Fujitsu, hi
[02:50] <avis> ompaul i have a very peculiar bug related to the removal and installation of xchat-gnome.  could i show you a pastebin.com for diagnosis ?
[02:50] <EmxBA> grap, what's the problem
[02:50] <EmxBA> it's ver early
[02:50] <ompaul> b0ef, so follow through to a link of where it is, and then look at it - pick your mirror :-)
[02:50] <grap> i m having some trouble with nvidia drivers, I tried to install the propietary drivers (like always) but it failed and then i installed the ones from apt-get but now, my X wont start until i reinstall the propietary driver, can anybody help?
[02:51] <EmxBA> just try to use default drivers
[02:51] <EmxBA> vesa
[02:51] <grap> but i need accel
[02:51] <ompaul> avis, show it to the world, if I read it and know it I pitch in, otherwise you have an audience of 1 not a great thing
[02:51] <ynef> grap: not unless I see the errors X told you -- they are more specific than you think :)
[02:51] <nosklo> peg: that's odd, disappear with no warnings
[02:51] <avis> i tried that
[02:51] <avis> heh
[02:51] <avis> i'll try again
[02:51] <grap> ynef, i cant find it, because it now works fine, but when i will reboot it will fail again
[02:51] <peg> nosklo, just found this, just a article abotu other people trying to find it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189430&highlight=sparc
[02:52] <EmxBA> well, use vesa till you don't find out reason for your problem
[02:52] <ompaul> avis, I am only back - so lets pretend... give the channel a url ;-)
[02:52] <ynef> grap: how annoying -- what did you do to fix it this time?
[02:52] <b0ef> ompaul: ;), thanks
[02:52] <grap> ynef, i found it!
[02:52] <samu2> There is something wrong the layout of the synaptic package manager. the list on the left side rarely displays more than a few entries when i use it, yet the list view on the right side never seems wide enough to display the full descriptions and version numbers and stuff.
[02:52] <grap> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please ensure
[02:52] <grap> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     that there is a supported NVIDIA GPU in this system, and
[02:52] <grap> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     that the NVIDIA device files have been created properly.
[02:52] <grap> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     Please consult the NVIDIA README for details.
[02:52] <grap> (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
[02:52] <shriphani> ok guys changed the apt sources and did an apt-get update
[02:53] <ynef> grap: the lines before that?
[02:53] <ynef> at least the few first ones
[02:53] <grap> all correct
[02:53] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[02:53] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[02:53] <ynef> grap: and have you consulted the NVIDIA README file? ;)
[02:53] <grap> yes sorry Hobbsee
[02:53] <ompaul> grap, DONT PASTE IN THIS CHANNEL THANKS!!! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:53] <grap> ynef, i guess there is a simple solution
[02:54] <grap> like make the now installed dirver the default
[02:54] <grap> i dont know why it overwrites the driver
[02:54] <Fujitsu_AMILO> EmxBA - Hi, Fujitsu_AMILO here. Were you referring to me earlier?
[02:54] <Ron_o> samu2, your package manager sounds right to me.
[02:54] <avis> can anyone help me get xchat standard and xchat-gnome working together ?  prolly not.  i can't figure it out.. but perhaps this pastebin.com will tell you something by its error ? http://pastebin.com/759605
[02:55] <ynef> grap: tell me exactly what you did, step by step
[02:55] <grap> ok
[02:55] <ompaul> !reinstall
[02:55] <ubotu> methinks reinstall is renew configuration: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends $package <<followed by >> sudo apt-get install $package
[02:55] <ynef> grap: (and preface every line with "ynef", so I get it highlighted -- please!) :)
[02:55] <samu2> Ron_o, yeah, i just mean its badly planned
[02:56] <avis> om mani padme hum
[02:56] <avis> namaste
[02:56] <ompaul> avis, sssshhhhhhhh
[02:56] <shriphani> namstey avis
[02:56] <grap> ynef firstly i installed the propietary nvidia driver and it failed because of my xorg.conf so i decided to install the ones from ubuntu repositories
[02:56] <shriphani> kya aap bharatiya ho ?
[02:56] <kyledye> !ati
[02:56] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[02:56] <avdd> since installing dapper my HDD is going nuts, but with no obvious process indicators.
[02:57] <ynef> grap: right. so doesn't the proprietary drivers have some kind of "uninstall" feature?
[02:57] <grap> ynef, that's all, the only thing i have to do now, everytime when i reboot, is to reinstall the propietary drivers and it works
[02:57] <ompaul> shriphani, avis it is an english language channel, thanks :)
[02:57] <vincenz> How come on my desktop I got a notification in my update notifier asking me if I wanted to upgrade, and I don't get this ono my laptop?
[02:57] <Ron_o> avdd, be more descriptive.
[02:57] <shriphani> ompaul, i am sorry :)
[02:57] <alth> Nice name, eniac.
[02:57] <grap> ynef, i guess so, i'll look for it
[02:57] <ompaul> shriphani, well you know now, ;-)
[02:57] <Ron_o> vincenz, could it be your laptop isn't internet bound?
[02:57] <shriphani> :)
[02:57] <vincenz> Ron_o: it is
[02:58] <eniac> hy... i installed ubuntu amd64 at my server.... but he didnt ask me to change root password. what is default root password?
[02:58] <shriphani> i added a few cipherfunk sources as well for win 32 codecs
[02:58] <ompaul> !root
[02:58] <vincenz> Ron_o: apparently it's cause I had updates to do on desktop, while synaptic doesn't ask about system update
[02:58] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:58] <gil> how do i burn two bootable ISO filles to one DVD and choose which one to boot to at start up
[02:58] <ompaul> eniac, ^^^ read above
[02:58] <eniac> ompaul_ read where?
[02:58] <avdd> Ron_o: There's a lot of audible activity on the HDD that / and swap is on.
[02:58] <vincenz> is there any solution to removing unused packages?
[02:58] <eniac> ok
[02:58] <ompaul> eniac, ubotu Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:58] <avdd> It sounds like a slocate update or something
[02:58] <eniac> tks a lot.
[02:59] <avdd> but no obvious activity in process list
[02:59] <Ron_o> vincenz, use aptitude to install or Checkinstall
[02:59] <ompaul> vincenz, that causes problems when you try to update
[02:59] <antares79> hi... does anyone have any experience with installing ubuntu's root partition on a sw-raid1?
[02:59] <Ron_o> other than that probably not.
[02:59] <ompaul> vincenz, ehh upgrade sorry
[02:59] <vincenz> ompaul: what does/
[02:59] <Ron_o> I'm kind of in that problem myself.
[02:59] <kyledye> hrm.  i have an ATI 9250 PCI
[02:59] <grap> ynef, done, lets try it again, rebooting!
[02:59] <kyledye> anyone know if that will work?
[03:00] <ynef> grap: great -- good luck :)
[03:00] <vincenz> no what I want to do is remove stuff from my system I don't need...but if I do this manually it will automatically remove dependencies... instead I would like to see what packages are orphans or children of orphans
[03:00] <patbam> hi folks, when i try to install realplayer from synaptic under dapper, i get "xlibs not installable" . is there some reason that i shouldn't install xlibs, whatever that is?
[03:00] <ompaul> vincenz, removing random packages, have a look at synaptic package manager do to it
[03:00] <eniac> changed
[03:00] <romany> I am running Ubuntu Server 6.06 LTS as a guest inside VMware (Ubuntu is also the host). The first virtual instance runs like a charm. The second - a copy of the first one does bring eth0 up. I am probably missing something obvious here. Any pointers?
[03:00] <avis> ompaul, yes i'm quite aware of that but i can't help but notice the om prefixed by your english name :)
[03:00] <vincenz> ompaul: I do... but I was hoping for a more systematic way of tidying up
[03:01] <ompaul> avis, put ompaul into google
[03:01] <avis> okies
[03:01] <Ron_o> !ompaul
[03:01] <ubotu> Ron_o: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:01] <vincenz> maybe I should do a clean install
[03:01] <Ron_o> hehe.
[03:02] <pussfeller> how do I keep beagled from starting up, I cant find where it starts
[03:02] <gypsymauro> hello
[03:02] <gypsymauro> what's the difference of packages in ubuntu desktop and ubuntu alternate?
[03:02] <Ron_o> vincenz, I hear aptitude can take of tydying up.
[03:02] <Ron_o> I might have to do a fresh install too. :(
[03:02] <Ron_o> the way things are a lookin.
[03:02] <xiko> What is the command that it opens a window so I can choose witch version of java is the default?
[03:02] <vincenz> Ron_o: yeah but it's a pain
[03:02] <ompaul> Ron_o, what is working / not working the way you want?
[03:03] <vincenz> Ron_o: and... I also have stuff in /usr/local
[03:03] <Ron_o> ompaul... it's a long story.. :)
[03:03] <avis> ompaul :)
[03:03] <ompaul> vincenz, you installed from source?
[03:03] <vincenz> ompaul: some things yes
[03:03] <Ron_o> everything's working fine.  But space is really limited.
[03:03] <markuss> hi all
[03:03] <markuss> i am looking for a help with little problem...
[03:04] <Ron_o> we only solve big problems.. ;->
[03:04] <shriphani> cool thanks apt-get is downloading audacity !!!!!
[03:04] <ompaul> vincenz, add universe and multiverse and then you will have almost 20k packages so its likely you will have somehting that does a job that way you stay inside the supported or locally generated things, then you have a better idea as to what is going on
[03:04] <Ng> markuss: ask away, if someone can help, they will
[03:05] <markuss> hmm, for me it is not a little problem...:)
[03:05] <avis> i take notes of the big problems i solve through tomboy notepad for gnome :)
[03:05] <markuss> problem with hald...
[03:05] <markuss> during booting hald seens to freeze harddisk
[03:05] <vincenz> ompaul: some things were still required
[03:05] <ompaul> !bootoptions
[03:05] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions not the full complement of boot options but it is some of them
[03:05] <markuss> after that system stars very slowly...
[03:05] <ompaul> markuss, ^^ up the screen a couple of lines
[03:05] <redrum> has anyone here got wine to build in dapper with amd64? it doesn't seem to build at all, and there isnt much about it from google
[03:06] <Watje> I just restarted X (after 30 days) and now everything is sooo small. Please have a look at http://watje.be/fonts.png
[03:06] <Constantinka> I reply for some help in installing Macro Media Flashplayer
[03:06] <ompaul> Ron_o, almost - debian is still ahead, but in terms of accesiblity I think it may be there
[03:07] <avis> Constantinka, free or non-free ?
[03:07] <Constantinka> free
[03:07] <avis> hmm
[03:07] <Ron_o> it's quite organized, I must say.
[03:07] <avis> Gnuflash
[03:07] <avis> its in the ubuntu wiki
[03:07] <Constantinka> wiki?
[03:07] <Ron_o> !wiki
[03:07] <ompaul> Ron_o, however ... and this is more important - there are things out there that are not on the wiki or help.ubuntu.com and some of them are just *wrong*
[03:07] <xiko> !java
[03:07] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:07] <Ryugi> can java be installed on ubuntu
[03:07] <xiko> !javadebs
[03:07] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[03:08] <Ron_o> Ryugi, yes. I have it.
[03:08] <avis> thats so awesome of sun.com to recognize ubuntu
[03:08] <Ryugi> the jdk too?
[03:08] <Ron_o> !wiki gnuflash
[03:08] <markuss> sorry a have to leav chanell
[03:08] <markuss> so what about hald...
[03:09] <Ron_o> there's no wiki page for gnuflash.
[03:09] <avis> could someone send me the url to the mplayer install how-to ?
[03:09] <Ryugi> what version of gnome comes with ubuntu
[03:09] <grap> ynef, it worked!
[03:10] <grap> great!
[03:10] <grap> time for compiz
[03:10] <ynef> grap: nice! congratulations, man! :)
[03:10] <ynef> haha
[03:10] <Ng> Ryugi: dapper ships with 2.14.1
[03:10] <avis> !mplayer avis
[03:10] <ubotu> avis: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:11] <jhunter> grap: so what exactly did you do?
[03:11] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[03:11] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:11] <grap> jhunter, uninstalled propietary driver and reinstall the ubuntu one
[03:11] <ompaul> avis, /msg ubotu mplayer
[03:11] <xiko> !mplayer
[03:11] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[03:12] <jhunter> grap: how do you uninstall the proprietory one?
[03:12] <tombs> hi all
[03:12] <grap> jhenn, sh NVIDIAxxxxx.sh -uninstall
[03:12] <grap> jhunter, see up
[03:12] <grap> sorry jhenn
[03:12] <ompaul> xiko, perhaps /msg ubotu Keyword is better
[03:12] <jhunter> I'l give it a go!
[03:12] <grap> now is problems with compiz XDDD
[03:13] <xiko> ompaul, is that wrong to do as I do?
[03:13] <tRSS> quick question: after I upgraded from breezy to dapper, i am getting this and few more errors when I login to bash: "unknown items QUOTAS_ENAB (notify administrator)"
[03:13] <kyledye> !opera
[03:13] <ubotu> download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[03:13] <xiko> ompaul, it does work
[03:13] <ompaul> xiko, if your looking for it yourself you should message the bot, that way the channel does not get infomation you need and can ask for
[03:13] <xiko> ompaul, ah ok
[03:13] <rohan> Although not officially a bug (it's a feature!), I found that I could not start the X server by disabling gdm, booting into text mode, and then running startx. ---> how is that a feature ?
[03:14] <xiko> ompaul, channel guidelines, wont happen again
[03:14] <rohan> i am reading from DWW
[03:14] <ompaul> xiko, for others then okay but point them to it or /msg ubotu tell Fred about foo
[03:14] <Ron_o> if you're going to install opera, then you must install the static.
[03:14] <markuss> hi all
[03:14] <xiko> k
[03:14] <zach> hello how do i use the control panel  that fglrx has
[03:14] <vincenz> ompaul: I tried something simple.... recurse in all subdirs of /usr/local and did a sudo rm -rf
[03:14] <markuss> i need help with hald
[03:14] <avdd> Is there something like top for I/O?
[03:15] <xiko> ompaul, ok, learnt
[03:15] <babysnakes> avdd: try vmstat
[03:15] <Ron_o> avdd, I know there is... but.. what...
[03:15] <tombs> does anyone knows what happend with madwifi-cvs?
[03:15] <markuss> i need help with hald
[03:16] <Ron_o> vmstat's for the swap.
[03:16] <Ron_o> it reports virtual memory stats.
[03:16] <stbrenner> my screen rez won't go 1024 x 678.  do i just edit the xorg.conf?  i'm on a dell xps m140
[03:16] <ompaul> vincenz, not really the best way forward
[03:16] <stbrenner> i mean it won't go above
[03:16] <babysnakes> Ron_o: vmstaats also reports IO but not for separate programs
[03:17] <vincenz> ompaul: nah it's fine
[03:17] <bpont> does anyone use daemontools under ubuntu?
[03:17] <ompaul> stbrenner, please read the message from ubotu
[03:17] <vincenz> ack
[03:17] <vincenz> when upgrading to dapper: The upgrade aborts now. Your system can be in an unusable state. A recovery was run (dpkg --configure -a).
[03:17] <stbrenner> ahhh thx
[03:17] <markuss> have anybody problem with hald?
[03:18] <izm99> does anyone know how to get the mount point of a digital camera card when it's inserted?
[03:18] <avdd> babysnakes: thanks, that's a start
[03:18] <Ron_o> babysnakes, I see it does. Thanks.
[03:18] <ompaul> markuss, check out launchpad.net for bug reports
[03:18] <babysnakes> avdd: you're welcome :)
[03:18] <Ron_o> izm99.. usb?
[03:19] <izm99> Ron_o, yeah.
[03:19] <Ron_o> I would try an app called usbview, but I'm not sure if it will give you a mountpoint.
[03:19] <bpont> i need to mount a image file on my hard drive (cue / bin)...what's the best ubuntu app for doing that
[03:19] <tim__> hi all
[03:20] <mAge2> hello.. gota prob when installing 6.06: mounting root file system -> system hangs
[03:20] <tim__> I'm wanted to know if this new version of ubuntu has the install to USB external drive feature built in ?
[03:20] <vincenz> crap crap
[03:20] <izm99> I want to run my own script when I insert the MMC.  Currently, under the gnome-volume-preferences, it uses gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h
[03:20] <vincenz> upgrade manager wasn't working
[03:20] <Ron_o> usbview doesn't give you a mountpoint.
[03:20] <vincenz> :(
[03:20] <vincenz> it worked fine for my desktop
[03:20] <kholerabb1> Hello, most of the images in nautulus and on the desktop show up as thumbs, but soemtimes I get an image (jpg, although most jpgs work) that doesn't show a preview.. All the times this has happened has been on large (1000x1000px or more) images.... Under properties > image it says "Failed to load image information".. anyone help?
[03:20] <flapane> hi
[03:21] <flapane> can i speak about dapper in this channel, right?
[03:21] <flapane> or i have to go in ubuntu+1
[03:21] <izm99> if I change the command in gnome-volume-preferences, %h is a message from dbus, and I don't know what to do with it.
[03:21] <onkarshinde> bpont: Install nautilus-actions package and then check this http://www.grumz.net/?q=node/207
[03:21] <Ron_o> flapane, yes.
[03:21] <izm99> flapane, here is fine.
[03:21] <flapane> ok thanks
[03:21] <maybelle> hello can somebody help me, on how to configure my network :(
[03:21] <izm99> flapane, (since dapper's been released).
[03:21] <flapane> I have issues with ati fglrx modules...3d won't work http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189470
[03:22] <maybelle> i cannot configure my network pls help me :((
[03:22] <flapane> i don't know if it's related to amd64, to dapper, or to what
[03:22] <onkarshinde> maybelle: What kind of network?
[03:22] <bpont> onkarshinde: ok...i'll check it out...tx
[03:22] <nightcoder> maybelle, whats your problem
[03:22] <pedrocr> after my dapper install I now get a warning when I login saying that my preference settings are being used and then that "xml:readonly/var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults" can't be found
[03:22] <maybelle> i cannot access my other computers
[03:22] <onkarshinde> maybelle: Please give details
[03:22] <crazy_penguin> has someone used the shfs module?
[03:22] <elfomarcio> anyone use linux dc++
[03:22] <elfomarcio> ??
[03:22] <crazy_penguin> elfomarcio:yes
[03:22] <flapane> elfo usa valknut
[03:23] <maybelle> it is always asking for my hostname domain and password
[03:23] <pedrocr> anyone know what it might be?
[03:23] <stbrenner> sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange   command won't work
[03:23] <flapane> if anyone could look at the link i gave maybe could give me a shot
[03:23] <mAge2> what means: HPT37XN: unkown bus timing [69 4] 
[03:23] <nightcoder> maybelle: what kind of network you have ?
[03:23] <mAge2> i get this at beginning of the install
[03:23] <maybelle> i want to setup my netowrk im using freezy badger 5.10
[03:23] <vincenz> anyways
[03:23] <elfomarcio> i have a lot of troubles with dc
[03:23] <vincenz> upgrading on lappy carshed (worked fine on desktop...) doing it from console now
[03:23] <maybelle> small lan
[03:23] <mAge2> then it says Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer exception
[03:23] <zach> does anyone have dual monitors running with ati and fglrx
[03:23] <mAge2> mhhh
[03:23] <maybelle> lan...
[03:23] <maybelle> about 10 pc's
[03:24] <crazy_penguin> elfomarcio:what troubles?
[03:24] <nightcoder> Have you a proxy server ?
[03:24] <elfomarcio> it crashes every 5 minutes and is very slow
[03:24] <Ron_o> !network
[03:24] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[03:24] <maybelle> pls i really need help
[03:24] <mAge2> me 2
[03:24] <mAge2> :D
[03:24] <nightcoder> Or wireless network ?
[03:24] <Ron_o> maybelle, you need specific questions.
[03:24] <onkarshinde> Does anyone know if backports repos is up?
[03:24] <Ron_o> you need a manual, not help.
[03:24] <crazy_penguin> elfomarcio:are you using the windows version with wine?
[03:24] <elfomarcio> nonono
[03:24] <Ron_o> !networking
[03:24] <ubotu> check this for command line networking http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[03:24] <elfomarcio> the linux version
[03:25] <crazy_penguin> elfomarcio:linuxdcpp?
[03:25] <elfomarcio> flapane vieni in pvt
[03:25] <elfomarcio> yes
[03:25] <heatxsink> any idea why I can't play xvid codec mpegs/
[03:25] <heatxsink> ??
[03:25] <flapane> anyone getting problems with ati3d? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189470
[03:25] <ynef> heatxsink: probably because you don't have the correct codecs installed
[03:25] <maybelle> ei guys im running a lan network how can i configure the host and client
[03:25] <Ron_o> that's too vague heatxsink IMO.
[03:25] <Ng> !tell heatxsink about RestrictedFormats
[03:25] <heatxsink> i installed that w32codec's deb
[03:25] <onkarshinde> heatxsink: Which player are you using? What codecs did you install?
[03:25] <tristan> hello all
[03:26] <elfomarcio> hi tristran
[03:26] <heatxsink> onkarshinde:  i'm using xine
[03:26] <heatxsink> onkarshinde:  I installed that w32codecs deb
[03:26] <Aeudian> When trying to open a program from terminal as "su -" i get an error message saying "GTK-WARNING **:cannot open display" then i type in xhost +localhost, and i get an error message saying "xhost:unable to open display "" and ive tried the export commnad for xhost as well
[03:26] <tristan> Anyone know why I cannot use acroread and even start it? I re-installed it with synaptic after upgrading to Dapper but it still doesn't work....
[03:26] <maybelle> ei..
[03:26] <nightcoder> maybelle: your computer is behind a firewall/proxy ?
[03:26] <onkarshinde> heatxsink: xineshouldn't give problem with xViD. Try installing libxine-extracodecs package
[03:26] <elfomarcio> crazy_penguin any idea?
[03:26] <elfomarcio> crazy_penguin: any idea?
[03:26] <maybelle> ei
[03:27] <ynef> Aeudian: that's because you own the X display, not root. if you use "sudo" instead, it should work
[03:27] <onkarshinde> heatxsink: I am assuming you are on Dapper
[03:27] <t-thing> Hi. I've got a file and I can't figure out what kind of file it is. What tools should I use to check it?
[03:27] <noob31> how do i play mp3 files ??
[03:27] <heatxsink> onkarshinde:  yes
[03:28] <crazy_penguin> elfomarcio: no. sorry. i thought that you tried to use the wine + dc++ combination. sorry.
[03:28] <ynef> t-thing: "file", actually :
[03:28] <onkarshinde> vincenz: What kind of issues?
[03:28] <xiko> hmm I have been having trouble installing aquadata. First I needed the latest java which I got and eclipse is running fine. I cant find an install log or something. The window just freezes. It might be a problem in java configuration. Ideas?
[03:28] <onkarshinde> !tell noob31 about mp3
[03:28] <zach> does anyone have dual monitors running with ati and fglrx
[03:28] <onkarshinde> xiko: How did you install Java?
[03:28] <Aeudian> ynef: i was told by the person who wrote the program that sudo wasnt for some reason giving the program full access to create files, and to try su -
[03:28] <vincenz> onkarshinde: it complains while installing...
[03:28] <pedrocr> for some reason "/var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults/" didn't have +rx permissions for everyone
[03:28] <barros> is there any problem if I compile a kernel by myself? Will I run into deps problems?
[03:28] <ynef> !tell onkarshinde about java
[03:28] <t-thing> ynef: how obvious :) Unfortunetaly it says "data"
[03:29] <xiko> onkarshinde, apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[03:29] <nightcoder> barros: no
[03:29] <vincenz> onkarshinde: it worked fine on desktop, now my laptop is even hanging when starting a terminal
[03:29] <onkarshinde> ynef: I know how to do it. I was just verifying how he did it.
[03:29] <vincenz> something concering renaming a man file from textutils.1.gz to something else
[03:29] <nightcoder> vincenz: try 'apt-get -f install'
[03:29] <maybelle> ei
[03:29] <ynef> onkarshinde: ah, nevermind then :)
[03:29] <vincenz> nightcoder: did that, then dist-upgrade, then dist-upgrade )f
[03:29] <vincenz> :(
[03:29] <onkarshinde> xiko: Did you run command 'sudo update-alternatives config java' after installing java?
[03:30] <barros> nightcoder: thanks..
[03:30] <flapane> noone could give me help? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189470
[03:30] <Siriuskr> Hey when trying to install flashplayer from package manager i get error need gsfonts but cannot install ????
[03:30] <nightcoder> vincenz: have you search for error logs ?
[03:30] <xiko> onkarshinde, hmm no, but it doesnt work
[03:30] <maybelle> .
[03:30] <onkarshinde> xiko: What doesn't work?
[03:30] <maybelle> e
[03:31] <xiko> onkarshinde, the command you just gave me
[03:31] <shriphani> guys i got an error when i wasa trying to install banshee would you please help me ?
[03:31] <onkarshinde> xiko: let me verify the command
[03:31] <Matthewv> anyone had trouble with some hp psc's printing black as a mix of colours??
[03:31] <xiko> onkarshinde, unknown argument, 'config'
[03:31] <xiko> onkarshinde, it is --config java
[03:31] <maybelle> ei nightcoder
[03:31] <onkarshinde> xiko: My mostake It is 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'
[03:31] <vincenz> nightcoder: I'm retrying install -f
[03:31] <vincenz> nightcoder: in console
[03:31] <maybelle> did you recieve my messages</
[03:31] <xiko> onkarshinde, doing it now ^^
[03:32] <maybelle> hellow
[03:32] <vincenz> seems to be going now
[03:32] <noonex> can anyone tell me what the latest version of xorg-driver-fglrx  is?
[03:32] <onkarshinde> xiko: If you still have problem after that then the Sun Java Control Panel is available in System->Preferences
[03:32] <vincenz> I'll try another distupgrad after
[03:32] <maybelle> can somebody teach me how to configure my LAN Network?
[03:32] <xiko> onkarshinde, ty
[03:32] <nightcoder> maybelle: let us to know if everything works (or not)
[03:32] <mAge2> where do i get badger 5.1 ?
[03:33] <bov> what file is used to change the terminal size settings?
[03:33] <shriphani> http://pastebin.com/759687
[03:33] <nightcoder> maybelle: explain your network environment
[03:33] <ben_underscore> what is the name of that script that installs a whole lot of multimedia and commerical apps?
[03:33] <irc> i don't see an irc client in ubuntu, i'm using irssi. which graphical irc client do you guys recommend?
[03:33] <shriphani> please look at that link and tell me what the error is
[03:33] <onkarshinde> mAge2: It is 5.10. And 5.10 is eight months old. Get 6.06
[03:33] <nightcoder> maybelle: is you behind a firewall/proxy ?
[03:33] <shriphani> irc xchat is good
[03:33] <maybelle> i have 10pc's desktop computer setup its has no firewall
[03:33] <ben_underscore> irc, xchat
[03:33] <Frogzoo> irc: gaim, xchat
[03:33] <onkarshinde> irc: xchat-gnome or Gaim
[03:33] <maybelle> using ubuntu 5.10 freezy badger
[03:33] <ziad> cud anyone plz tell me..how to active root user in ubuntu
[03:33] <Columbo> ben_underscore: I think you are looking for easyubuntu
[03:33] <irc> oh, gaim has irc? nice
[03:33] <nightcoder> maybelle: what network card type ? Ethernet ? Wireless ?
[03:33] <Ron_o> maybelle, that's *breezy. :)
[03:34] <Ron_o> hehe.
[03:34] <ben_underscore> Columbo, no, it's called something else....
[03:34] <onkarshinde> ziad: Don't do it. Using sudo is always better
[03:34] <shriphani> Ron_o, i need your help again
[03:34] <maybelle> wired using UTP Cable
[03:34] <Ron_o> what's up shriphani
[03:34] <maybelle> aw sorry :(
[03:34] <Frogzoo> !tell ben_underscore about docs
[03:34] <Columbo> automatix perhaps? It;s not recommended though
[03:34] <shriphani> http://pastebin.com/759687
[03:34] <irc> thanks guys, i'll try setting up gaim and having a look at its irc
[03:34] <maybelle> im really confused with the new OS that i have
[03:34] <mAge2> onkarshinde, 6.06 wont install, and i dont get any help, so i wanted to try 5.1
[03:34] <shriphani> i got the errors when i was trying to install banshee
[03:34] <Frogzoo> ben_underscore: you might be better off to just read the docs & install the apps yourself
[03:34] <zach> does anyone have dual monitors running with ati and fglrx
[03:34] <maybelle> night?
[03:34] <Ron_o> shriphani, I don't have access to the net right now. Sorry.
[03:34] <Frogzoo> zach: plenty of people...
[03:34] <shriphani> console Ron_o ??
[03:35] <Woozle> o.o
[03:35] <nightcoder> maybelle: run in terminal 'ifconfig'
[03:35] <Ron_o> yah, the console I do.
[03:35] <maybelle> ok
[03:35] <maybelle> w8
[03:35] <zach> can anyone help me set up ati and fglrx dual monitors?
[03:35] <onkarshinde> mAge2: What kind of error did you get while trying to install 6.06? How did you try to install. Which CD did you download?
[03:35] <shriphani> i think lynx is a good text based browser
[03:35] <Columbo> ben: I just used easyubuntu to get the multmedia stuff, works pretty good
[03:35] <ben_underscore> Columbo, ah that's it. I realise people don't like it but I was going to look through what it installed
[03:35] <noob31> !tell noob31 about divx
[03:35] <Matthewv> anyone know anything about krgb?
[03:35] <ziad> onkarshinde: but I want to install .bin and .rpm packages
[03:35] <maybelle> then what night
[03:35] <onkarshinde> zach: I guess xinerama does the dual monitor work. Search on wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:35] <h3sp4wn> shriphan: elinks is quite a bit better (handles cookies and forms better but is quite like lynx)
[03:35] <ben_underscore> Columbo, I've not heard about easyubuntu -- will have a look tx
[03:35] <Columbo> ben: ok, good luck :)
[03:35] <shriphani> h3sp4wn, i need your help
[03:35] <mAge2> onkarshinde, i used 6.06 i386 release for my amd xp 3000+... my install hangs on mounting root file system
[03:36] <shriphani> http://pastebin.com/759687
[03:36] <nightcoder> maybelle: whats your config ?
[03:36] <shriphani> i got those errors when i was trying to install banshee
[03:36] <shriphani> please help me
[03:36] <Boglizk> Why doesn't work to update via Update Manager? :S
[03:36] <mAge2> onkarshinde, i think it comes from the hpt372 controller but not shure
[03:36] <onkarshinde> ziad: Why do you need rpm package? Isn't it available in Ubuntu repos already? What s/w are you installing?
[03:36] <zach> hmm unfortuanely my net isnt working well right now....some outage with sprint/earthlink/soon to be embarq dsl in indiana
[03:36] <maybelle> did you recieve it nightcoder?
[03:36] <kholerabb1> Is it possibel to view floppys fromated by windows?
[03:36] <Siriuskr> -----> Hey when trying to install flashplayer from package manager i get error need gsfonts but cannot install ????
[03:37] <nightcoder> maybelle: yes
[03:37] <Woozle> I ran into a problem during an install, it did the initial program prep, it popped up an error, was wondering is there a way to continue the install or do I need to re-install
[03:37] <avis> kholerabb1, of course
[03:37] <ziad> onkarshinde: amsn, and others...it also requires for .bin to chmod
[03:37] <onkarshinde> mAge2: Did you change partitions after you installed 6.06?
[03:37] <kholerabb1> lol, ah right.. my floppy drive was unplugged :)
[03:37] <nightcoder> maybelle: got to 'System' -> 'Admin' -> 'Network '
[03:37] <chrisbudden14> im getting this - lp: Error - no default destination available. when trying to print from the gimp
[03:37] <maybelle> ok
[03:37] <h3sp4wn> Shripani: Can I have the output of - grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:37] <Ron_o> Woozle, I don' t know. Initial install?
[03:37] <Ron_o> clean install or upgrade?
[03:37] <mAge2> onkarshinde, i couldnt even install 6.06 int hangs at install
[03:37] <shriphani> ok h3sp4wn
[03:37] <ynef> chrisbudden14: I think that might be because it tries to read from the PRINTER environment variable, but am not sure
[03:37] <nightcoder> how many interfaces do you have ?
[03:37] <onkarshinde> ziad: amsn is available in ubuntu repositories and many more packages.
[03:37] <Woozle> clean install
[03:38] <maybelle> im here at the network sir
[03:38] <mAge2> onkarshinde right after the select otpions screen
[03:38] <Ron_o> if it stopped then I would restart it fresh.
[03:38] <chrisbudden14> ok ynef , what should I do?
[03:38] <nightcoder> Under 'connections' tav
[03:38] <Ron_o> I don't know how you would continue it.
[03:38] <jhunter> grap, how exactly did you reinstall the ubuntu nVidia driver after uninstalling the proprietary one?
[03:38] <nightcoder> tab
[03:38] <Woozle> it was preparing and installing the copied programs
[03:38] <ziad> onkarshinde: is it possible just to let me know how to change to root
[03:38] <Thumann> hey guys... is there any way to add gaim to the ubuntu splash loader thingie? you know.. when you log into your session you get that.. 'starting nautilus... ' etc..
[03:38] <Boglizk> Why doesn't work to update via Update Manager? :S
[03:38] <nightcoder> maybelle: how many 'connections' have you ?
[03:38] <maybelle> 2 ethernet connection and modem connection
[03:38] <nightcoder> maybelle: great
[03:38] <maybelle> but im using the ethernet connection
[03:39] <Ron_o> brb
[03:39] <maybelle> what should i do next>
[03:39] <maybelle> :(
[03:39] <kholerabb1> Thumann : in the gaim settings, "run on startup"
[03:39] <nightcoder> maybelle: now, click one of then
[03:39] <seppe> hi, I just installed dapper .. but it's doesn't handle my DVD's well (with VLC)
[03:39] <maybelle> then?
[03:39] <nightcoder> maybelle: and click 'properties'
[03:39] <ynef> chrisbudden14: well, you could try to start a terminal, the PRINTER variable part of your environment (how you do that depends on what shell you use) and start the gimp from the terminal -- if it works then, we know that was the problem
[03:39] <Thumann> kholerabb1: oh.. i'll try it.. thanks
[03:39] <maybelle> ok
[03:39] <ynef> chrisbudden14: "...set the PRINTER..."
[03:39] <shriphani> h3sp4wn, http://pastebin.com/759696
[03:39] <maybelle> my connection setting is
[03:39] <maybelle> configuration dhcp
[03:40] <maybelle> ip add blank
[03:40] <maybelle> subnet blank
[03:40] <maybelle> gateway blank
[03:40] <onkarshinde> ziad: First thing, you are solving wrong problem. I can not help with it. You can't install rpm package. Also you are trying to do something that has other simple ways to do.
[03:40] <chrisbudden14> what do you mean, set the printer variable ynef
[03:40] <nightcoder> maybelle: ok
[03:40] <shriphani> ziad, an rpm can be converted to deb and then installed
[03:40] <onkarshinde> ziad: rpm has to be converted to deb package
[03:40] <nightcoder> maybelle: what you can say about your network ?
[03:40] <nightcoder> maybelle: have you a fixed ip address ?
[03:40] <avis> !alien
[03:40] <Frogzoo> shriphani: yes, but it's not recommended...
[03:40] <ubotu> from memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[03:40] <avis> sorry, ops, for the !
[03:41] <maybelle> none im using static
[03:41] <reza> hi guys, i upgraded from breezy to dapper, and now one my network cards is broken :( can someone gimme some tips?
[03:41] <shriphani> maybelle configure the network then :)
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> Shripani: Whats cipherfunk.org ?
[03:41] <ziad> onkarshinde: well i get ur point...but y is it wrong to work as root
[03:41] <shriphani> h3sp4wn, i got them off source-o-matic for win32 codecs
[03:41] <avis> reza, simple, start from scratch ;)  fresh dapper iso
[03:42] <Frogzoo> ziad: cos that's how viruses propogate & other security exploits
[03:42] <onkarshinde> ziad: Becuase then you normally log in as root which is harmfull if your system is attacked over internet.
[03:42] <nightcoder> maybelle: can you look into another computer now ? Just to find network info
[03:42] <simian__> sorry, but can someone enter benward.dyndns.org into a browser
[03:42] <reza> avis i have lots of thing i can't eh
[03:42] <Woozle> aha
[03:42] <Woozle> I think I found it
[03:42] <Woozle> I can do dpkg --configure -a
[03:42] <Woozle> and hopefully they'll work...
[03:42] <maybelle> ok w8
[03:42] <Woozle> I think...
[03:42] <avis> reza must buy dvd burner or usb harddrive
[03:42] <ziad> onkarshinde: thanx.... (y) then plz tell me how do i convert rpm to deb
[03:42] <shriphani> !cipherfunk
[03:42] <ubotu> shriphani: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:42] <ynef> chrisbudden14: open a terminal, write "export PRINTER=whatever-your-printer's-name-is" (no quotes), then write "gimp". Try to print using "default printer", if that works, we know that we need to set up the "PRINTER" variable every time you log in, which can be done automatically
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> Shripani: Where where you installing banshee from ?
[03:43] <reza> eth0 is broken i can set it in dapper can someone help me plz?
[03:43] <avis> sure otherwise its alot of work but when things are broken ??
[03:43] <shriphani> h3sp4wn, apt-get
[03:43] <Frogzoo> ziad: what are you trying to install?
[03:43] <nightcoder> reza: broken how ?
[03:43] <chrisbudden14> ok ill try that ynef
[03:43] <SurfnKid> simian__, says its loading but nothing :(
[03:43] <shriphani> ziad, better not try that
[03:43] <maybelle> ei night
[03:43] <maybelle> r u stil der<
[03:43] <nightcoder> reza: etho is listed on 'network-admin' ?
[03:43] <avis> not that its not possible but i've heard alot of people complain about broken dist-upgrades
[03:43] <ordoban> simian__: timeout
[03:43] <reza> nightcoder it was working in breezy but now in dapper i can't set it
[03:43] <simian__> SurfnKid: thanks, i think i' blocking port 80 :(
[03:43] <reza> yes it is listed
[03:43] <onkarshinde> ziad: If you are installing amsn, it is available already in repositories.
[03:43] <stbrenner> does anyone know whethere or not you can insert information about an artist (ie the artist's name) manually in Rhythmbox?  It just says Unknown right now
[03:44] <onkarshinde> !tell ziad about repos
[03:44] <simian__> ordoban: thanks
[03:44] <ziad> Frogzoo: amsn/mplayer/netbeans/etc
[03:44] <h3sp4wn> Shripani: Remove the cypherfunk.org entries from /etc/apt/sources.list then run sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:44] <SurfnKid> prolly
[03:44] <nightcoder> maybelle: we need to get some info about your network
[03:44] <freezey> say i wanna remove an application and all its files... would my command be sudo apt-get remove process --purge
[03:44] <avis> hiya Frogzoo whats up ?
[03:44] <freezey> ?
[03:44] <shriphani> dist-upgrade for dapper ???
[03:44] <shriphani> i have a download limit :(
[03:44] <maybelle> what kind of info is that pls specify it for me and i will give it to yousir
[03:44] <Frogzoo> avis: oh, the upgrade borked my machine big time
[03:44] <maybelle> what kind of info is that pls specify it for me and i will give it to yousir
[03:44] <avis> well if you go for XGL yes.  otherwise, no.
[03:44] <avis> heh
[03:44] <ynef> freezey: sounds about right :)
[03:44] <shriphani> i am stuck with breezy
[03:44] <avis> yeah
[03:44] <nightcoder> reza: go to 'System' -> 'Admin' -> 'Network'
[03:44] <reza> nightcode two network cards eth0 is dhcp to connect to wan and eth1 is local
[03:44] <bimberi> freezey: sudo apt-get remove --purge package
[03:44] <reza> ok
[03:44] <avis> there is nothing better than a fresh install
[03:45] <Siriuskr> -----> Hey when trying to install flashplayer from package manager i get error need gsfonts but cannot install ????  When i also try to install other stuff its always telling me the Stupid dependences CANNOT be installed any suggestions, this is for dapper !!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:45] <avis> time consuming but worth it
[03:45] <reza> now?
[03:45] <mAge2> onkarshinde, any idea ?
[03:45] <maddy> cant play mp3 what to do?
[03:45] <nightcoder> maybelle: search for 'gateway' address
[03:45] <bimberi> Siriuskr: put your sources.list on the pastebin
[03:45] <shriphani> maddy apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:45] <reza> nightcoder: i have eth0 and eth1 both there
[03:45] <nightcoder> maybelle: ip ranges too
[03:45] <maddy> ty
[03:45] <Frogzoo> !tell maddy about restricted
[03:45] <Siriuskr> bimberi, ok
[03:45] <Frogzoo> maddy: - install mp3 codecs
[03:46] <avis> nightcoder, are you 64 bit or 32 ?  if 64 use vlc if 32 see wiki for restricted formats
[03:46] <maybelle> its blank
[03:46] <maybelle> :(
[03:46] <nightcoder> reza: eth0 is you local or internet interface ?
[03:46] <ziad> onkarshinde: have u tried installing s/w packages using console?
[03:46] <onkarshinde> mAge2: Which laptop is it?
[03:46] <maybelle> im using a dhcp configuration
[03:46] <reza> nightcoder: internet
[03:46] <onkarshinde> ziad: Yes
[03:46] <maybelle> should i setup it manually?
[03:46] <onkarshinde> ziad: 'sudo apt-get install packagename'
[03:46] <ziad> onkarshinde: well i wud like to know the "how to"
[03:46] <ziad> onkarshinde: arrite lemme try
[03:47] <a_monkey> How do i start network-manager-gnome?
[03:47] <reza> nightcoder: when i reboot and come to the last kernel version in boot menu network is working ... but no sound and ..
[03:47] <a_monkey> its installed but wont show up on my panel
[03:47] <nightcoder> maybelle: you need to get some network info from another computer
[03:47] <onkarshinde> ziad: I guess you have read the link that ubotu gave you
[03:47] <ziad> onkarshinde: yep
[03:47] <ompaul> a_monkey, system adminisration networking
[03:47] <stbrenner> what mp3 player do you guys reccomend? something that let's me edit artist's name, album, song title, etc.,
[03:47] <bimberi> a_monkey: 'nm_applet &'
[03:47] <maybelle> ok w8 ill just transfer ill be back with you jst a second
[03:47] <mAge2> onkarshinde, huh no laptop, desktop install
[03:47] <onkarshinde> a_monkey: try Alt+F2. This will bring run dialog and then enter nm-applet
[03:47] <ziad> onkarshinde: i'll visit it soon...
[03:47] <pucko-> is there a guide to do a "net install" without cdrom or floppys?
[03:47] <shriphani> h3sp4wn, it now says broken packages
[03:48] <reza> nightcoder: i tried hard to use ifconfig. ifup and down to set it but couldn't :|
[03:48] <avis> stbrenner, i use totem.  wont let you edit tags though.  xmms might.
[03:48] <Columbo> I've installed network-manager-gnome too, but when starting nm-applet, I don't get an icon
[03:48] <nightcoder> reza: eth0 is fixed ip address ?
[03:48] <chrisbudden14> looks like it is printing ynef
[03:48] <Columbo> any ideas?
[03:48] <nightcoder> reza: or its dhcp ?
[03:48] <bimberi> pucko-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[03:48] <reza> nightcoder: no dhcp
[03:48] <avis> i also use Muine
[03:48] <onkarshinde> mAge2: Then it is hard to tell. May be your partition table is corrupt. This is often result of using Partition Magic
[03:48] <reza> it is dhcp
[03:48] <avis> wont let you edit tags either
[03:48] <nightcoder> reza: is your ip address correctly configured ?
[03:49] <shriphani> mAge2, type mount in terminal
[03:49] <mAge2> hm my windows runs without probs
[03:49] <mAge2> moment
[03:49] <avis> how can you assume reza's network problems are a result of a bad partition table ?
[03:49] <mAge2> how to i enter the terminal @ install screen
[03:49] <mAge2> without waiting 10 mins
[03:50] <avis> couldn't she open fdisk from console and print the partition table and see if it lists everthing in order ?
[03:50] <reza> nightcoder: yes ... i am using the same settings in last version and everything works fine
[03:50] <maybelle> did you see it nightcoder?
[03:50] <Siriuskr> bimberi: http://pastebin.com/759712
[03:50] <noob31> how do i play mpg ?
[03:50] <bimberi> mAge2: ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[03:50] <d-rock> I'm having a problem doing a dist-upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06. Here's what I get: "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)". It's not in known issues and a quick search on google turns up nothing :(
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> Shripani: sudo aptitude -f dist-upgrade
[03:50] <nightcoder> maybelle: no
[03:50] <maybelle> maybelle@ubuntu:~$ sudo ifconfig
[03:50] <maybelle> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:5B:4D:1E:D1
[03:50] <maybelle>           inet addr:192.168.1.104  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[03:50] <maybelle>           inet6 addr: fe80::211:5bff:fe4d:1ed1/64 Scope:Link
[03:50] <maybelle>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[03:50] <maybelle>           RX packets:135 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[03:50] <maybelle>           TX packets:132 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[03:50] <SurfnKid> i thought i left BT on for Dapper, noope :( i ned to jump to someone's network
[03:50] <maybelle>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[03:50] <maybelle>           RX bytes:137761 (134.5 KiB)  TX bytes:11252 (10.9 KiB)
[03:50] <maybelle>           Interrupt:19 Base address:0xe800
[03:50] <Frogzoo> maybelle: please use pastebin
[03:50] <maybelle> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[03:50] <maybelle>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[03:50] <SurfnKid> maybelle, use the pastebin
[03:50] <maybelle>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> ..
[03:50] <maybelle>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[03:50] <avis> !tell noob31 wiki
[03:50] <maybelle>           RX packets:1454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[03:50] <maybelle>           TX packets:1454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[03:50] <maybelle>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[03:50] <shriphani> h3sp4wn, i have a download limit i cant download dapper
[03:50] <nightcoder> reza: is your problem related to eth0 not being started ?
[03:50] <maybelle>           RX bytes:130166 (127.1 KiB)  TX bytes:130166 (127.1 KiB)
[03:51] <maybelle> did you see it night?
[03:51] <maybelle> aw im sorry....
[03:51] <SurfnKid> !tell maybelle abou pastebin
[03:51] <nightcoder> maybelle: yes
[03:51] <d-rock> Has anyone else had a problem doing a dist-upgrade?
[03:51] <maybelle> :( im sorry guys
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> shriphani: All that will do is aggressively try to fix dependancies
[03:51] <avis> !tell noob31 wiki
[03:51] <maybelle> this is just my first time i hope u understand
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> shriphani: It won't upgrade you to dapper
[03:51] <maybelle> nightcoder: what should i do next
[03:51] <Frogzoo> maybelle: how could he miss it??? O_o
[03:51] <shriphani> oh cool
[03:51] <reza> nightcoder: when i type ifconfig it lists eth0 and eth1 both,,,
[03:51] <avis> hmm Dave says i'm not allowed to tell noob31
[03:52] <B0FH> can someone tell me if there is a way to repair gnome in dapper?
[03:52] <Siriuskr> bimberi: you get my pastebin link ?
[03:52] <nightcoder> reza: you ip is set correctly ?
[03:52] <mAge2> i mean enter terminal @ install scree, ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt work here
[03:52] <B0FH> XGL messed me up
[03:52] <bimberi> Siriuskr: yes ...
[03:52] <nightcoder> reza: both interfaces ?
[03:52] <ziad> onkarshinde: i tried the "command" u gave me.... but "Cudn't find package" error is shown
[03:52] <reza> nightcoder: yes i am sure :)  both
[03:52] <bimberi> Siriuskr: there are a few issues.  probably best addressed by replacing the whole thing with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[03:52] <nightcoder> maybelle: this IP address '192.168.1.104' is correct ?
[03:52] <avis> B0FH that happened to me too
[03:52] <a_monkey> 00000000000000000000000000000000000,
[03:52] <a_monkey> ,
[03:52] <stbrenner> thanks everyone.  i really just want to let all of you know how much i appreciate the brotherhood that ubuntu inspires.  i've been using linux for about a year now and coudn't have made the switch without you guys in here :)
[03:52] <avis> i dropped to terminal and apt-get install gnome
[03:53] <shriphani> mAge2, Applications --------> Accessories ---------> tereminal
[03:53] <vincenz> ping
[03:53] <Siriuskr> bimberi: okay i will try working with that
[03:53] <avis> and kept hacking away till it worked
[03:53] <maybelle> no my ip add is 192.168.0.1
[03:53] <B0FH> avis: ok i will try that
[03:53] <reza> nightcoder: anything i can do?
[03:53] <pucko-> thanks bimberi
[03:53] <nightcoder> reza: eth0 is ethernet or wireless ?
[03:53] <mAge2> shriphani, i am @ the install screen... withouth having installed ubunto
[03:53] <maybelle> do i nid 2 change it nightcoder?
[03:53] <bimberi> pucko-: np :)
[03:53] <B0FH> avis do i have to remove gnome first or just install over it?
[03:53] <reza> nightcoder: ethernet
[03:54] <avis> B0FH, if gnome is installed then do gnome-desktop -- i'm guessing
[03:54] <mAge2> im stuck here
[03:54] <seppe> does anyone know why vlc doesn't see dvd:// as my dvd drive?
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> shriphani: also try sudo aptitude purge banshee (build it from source or something that package is probably coming from cypherpunk.org or whatever)
[03:54] <B0FH> avis thanx ^_^
[03:54] <nightcoder> maybelle: well, you can try 'sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up'
[03:54] <avis> if it wont start gdm
[03:54] <vincenz> regarding ubuntu
[03:54] <avis> then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:54] <vincenz> when upgrading I get the following error
[03:54] <avis> always make backup
[03:54] <nightcoder> reza: can you 'ping' another host ?
[03:54] <SurfnKid> glad he's gone
[03:54] <reza> nightcoder: it should take a few seconds for dhcp at startup but it passes the network setting part so fast and writes [OK]  lol
[03:54] <reza> nightcoder: i can't
[03:54] <shriphani> mAge2, please rem the cd and do a check
[03:55] <shriphani> best would be with yer live cd
[03:55] <nightcoder> reza: whats you card model ?
[03:55] <a_monkey> nm-applet is now running, but i still do not get a statusicon on my panel, and it does not appear to be addable in the menu.
[03:55] <nightcoder> reza: 'lspci ' can say it to you :)
[03:55] <reza> nightcoder: in eth0 properties, it says status: disable
[03:55] <mAge2> i installed mandrake some time ago, same system, did work fine
[03:55] <mAge2> just ubuntu hangs at install
[03:55] <avis> XGL is good for me not so much for the flash but because it is more useful for me to assign workstations to groups of apps
[03:56] <ziad> shriphani: I tried the sudo apt-get....but an error "Cudn't find package <packagename> " is shown
[03:56] <vincenz> Anyways I get a serious bug... when trying to upgrade
[03:56] <nightcoder> reza: ahhhh
[03:56] <avis> the flash is fancy and it has neat features that are "flashy"
[03:56] <nightcoder> reza: enable it !
[03:56] <shriphani> ziad packagename is to be changed with the package you want
[03:56] <freezey> someone do me a favor goto http://www.phpgroupware.org tell me if loads for u
[03:56] <ziad> shriphani: yea i know ..and i did that
[03:56] <Siriuskr> bimberi: I am still getting the same error -> "Depends: gsfonts-x11: But it is not installable"
[03:57] <reza> nightcoder: how? it is  activated
[03:57] <shriphani> ziad, is this the first time you are using apt-get ?
[03:57] <ziad> shriphani: yes
[03:57] <vincenz> could anyone look at this failure: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GpQwIO20.html
[03:57] <avis> ziad did you type a package name ?
[03:57] <shriphani> maybe all your repositories are commented
[03:57] <nightcoder> reza: double click
[03:57] <avis> apt-get install pico
[03:57] <avis> try that
[03:57] <ziad> shriphani: yes i did
[03:57] <seppe> does anyone know why vlc doesn't see dvd:// as my dvd drive?
[03:58] <shriphani> you commented all repositories !!!!??
[03:58] <nightcoder> reza: a check 'enable this connection'
[03:58] <bimberi> Siriuskr: did you 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:58] <ziad> shriphani: well tell me the command is applicable for only deb packagese right?
[03:58] <vincenz> :(
[03:58] <dallas> anyone able to help me with running WOW on a ATI card?
[03:58] <nnz0id> how to make smbpasswd file?
[03:58] <GNAM> how can I boot ubuntu in text mode?
[03:58] <ompaul> freezey, its stuck in deep space 9
[03:59] <reza> nightcoder: it is checked :)
[03:59] <GNAM> i've add 3 at kernel line, but it boots graphics
[03:59] <shriphani> ziad please check /etc/apt/sources.list if the links with deb in front of them have a #
[03:59] <avis> GNAM, learn grub
[03:59] <bimberi> nnz0id: sudo smbpasswd -a username
[03:59] <gnott> hi...got troubles with a pxeboot: klient trying to load pxelinux.cfg/ xxx but seems to fail
[03:59] <nnz0id> bimberi thnx
[03:59] <bimberi> nnz0id: yw :)
[03:59] <gnott> anyone got advice?
[03:59] <nightcoder> reza: your ip under network-admin is right ?
[03:59] <ompaul> GNAM, install a program called bum and use it to turn off gdm
[03:59] <ziad> shriphani: but i've them downloaded in my harddrive
[03:59] <shriphani> huh
[03:59] <avis> what does that do ompaul ?
[03:59] <shriphani> downloaded what ?
[03:59] <reza> nightcoder: yes every thing set, it is a lower level prob i think
[04:00] <shriphani> tell me the filename
[04:00] <ziad> shriphani: i want downloaded files to be installed
[04:00] <ompaul> !enter
[04:00] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[04:00] <vincenz> nightcoder: you asked for a log regarding the error during upgrade? It can be found at http://rafb.net/paste/results/GpQwIO20.html (it's only the relevant bit)
[04:00] <shriphani> ziad which files are they ?
[04:00] <ziad> shriphani: i know how to install thru synaptic
[04:00] <shriphani> the packagename please
[04:01] <ziad> shriphani: for eg. ymessenger.deb
[04:01] <kasumix_> hi there a little question: ive just set up ubuntu and installed some additional components.... afterwards i wanted to connect to a windows share and i set up a Windows Share connection..... when i try to login with my account on this pc i get Aacces Denied all the Time.. what am i doing wrong ?
[04:01] <avis> ompaul could you please tell me what apt-get install bum does to a gdm session does it help configure grub ?
[04:01] <shriphani> ziad open your terminal
[04:01] <ziad> shriphani: it's open
[04:01] <shriphani> navigate t the directory where the downloaded files exist
[04:01] <a_monkey2> here is the settings in my nm-applet.desktop : http://pastebin.com/759727
[04:01] <vincenz> ompaul: maybe you have some ideas regarding the upgrade problem I have, maybe some fix?
[04:01] <nightcoder> vincenz: coreutils fail to upgrade ... you can try upgrade it now: apt-get install coreutils
[04:01] <Siriuskr> bimberi: okay it let me install it ^_^ Thanks --> But now when opening firefox and trying to watch a flash movie it just sits at a white box "the flash movie part" ???
[04:02] <reza> nightcoder: when i boot 2.6.15-23 no internet ,,, but when i boot with 2.6.12-9  i have internet
[04:02] <nnz0id> how do i know //myserv/sharename? , i did in smb.conf [public]  comment = file_dump path = /tmp public = yes writable = yes . should i just use //myserver/tmp ?
[04:02] <B0FH> http://pastebin.com/759732 <---= can someone please help me with this? explanation given as well
[04:02] <vincenz> nightcoder: same problem
[04:02] <nightcoder> reza: can be a module-related problem
[04:02] <reza> nightcoder: can i solve it then?
[04:02] <ompaul> avis, bum is boot up manager - is can be used in the GUI to turn off the gui - it does nothing to grub
[04:02] <nightcoder> can you compare 'lsmod' under 2.6.12-9 and 2.6.15-23 ?
[04:02] <bimberi> Siriuskr: sorry, that one's beyond me :|
[04:03] <maybelle_> nightcoder when i change dhcp to static
[04:03] <bimberi> !flash
[04:03] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:03] <Siriuskr> bimberi: Okay thanks for your help :D
[04:03] <maybelle_> i lost my internet
[04:03] <bimberi> Siriuskr: ... apart from that ubotu factoid ^^^^
[04:03] <nightcoder> vincenz: and apt-get -f install ? whats message it return ?
[04:03] <shriphani> ziad ?
[04:03] <bimberi> Siriuskr: np :)
[04:03] <ziad> shriphani: yes
[04:03] <shriphani> i am waiting for a reply
[04:03] <avis> thanks ompaul
[04:03] <maybelle_> nightcoder :(((
[04:03] <maybelle_> pls reply
[04:03] <shriphani> did you navigate to the directory ?
[04:03] <vincenz> nightcoder: I have repeatedly done both in a cycle to no avail
[04:03] <nightcoder> maybelle: sorry
[04:03] <reza> nightcoder: takes about 15 mins will you be here?
[04:04] <nightcoder> probably you eth0 is dhcp and eth1 is fixed ip address
[04:04] <|rt|> anyone here know how to get openvpn working with network manager in ubuntu?
[04:04] <nightcoder> maybelle: can you try the same command changing eth0 to eth1 ?
[04:04] <shriphani> ok ziad now type dpkg -i packagename
[04:04] <ompaul> vincenz, that is from sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:04] <vincenz> ompaul: yep
[04:04] <arrais> i think i just messed my master boot record, does anyone know how can i reinstall grub?
[04:04] <nightcoder> reza: yes
[04:05] <ompaul> !grub
[04:05] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:05] <vincenz> nightcoder: and now sudo apt-get install -f gets more issues
[04:05] <Frogzoo> !tell arrais about recoveringgrub
[04:05] <ompaul> mgalvin, welcome to the sunny side of the street
[04:05] <danfg> Why is ubuntu missing /dev/hda1, hda2, etc. files? damn, it only makes mounting harder. how do i create a /dev/hd#? i've tried using mknod, but the device i create can't be mounted: "/dev/hda1 is not a valid block device"
[04:05] <nightcoder> vincenz: can you send error message returned by 'apt-get -f install' ?
[04:05] <ziad> shriphani: it says ...it requires super user priviledge
[04:05] <arrais> thanks Frogzoo
[04:05] <mgalvin> ompaul: howdy :)
[04:05] <vincenz> nightcoder: ok
[04:05] <shriphani> ziad type su
[04:06] <shriphani> and then type in the root password
[04:06] <xpc> !hu
[04:06] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[04:06] <Ng> danfg: if everything is working correctly then it will only create the nodes in /dev/ for things that actually exist
[04:06] <shriphani> !root
[04:06] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:06] <Ng> danfg: what is the disk you're trying to mount?
[04:06] <ompaul> shriphani, People do not need to be ROOT ./...
[04:06] <noob31> how can i set a root password ?
[04:06] <danfg> Ng: it's an ntfs disk, does ubuntu autodetect and mount these?
[04:06] <ziad> shriphani: says Authentication Failure
[04:06] <nightcoder> noob31: use 'sudo' instead
[04:06] <shriphani> hmm
[04:06] <danfg> noob31: set your own password, it's the same for root
[04:07] <ompaul> noob31, you don't need one this page has all the info you want: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:07] <Ng> danfg: I don't think so. I meant more is it IDE, SATA or SCSI/USB?
[04:07] <maybelle> nightcoder pls reply when i try to change DHCP to STATIC im lossing my internet
[04:07] <nightcoder> noob31: or if its a 'type password' dialog you should type your user password
[04:07] <linu> once I use a nickname, how do I go back to my normal name on irc ...
[04:07] <linu> ?
[04:07] <nightcoder> maybelle: change eth0 to dhcp
[04:07] <shriphani> linu /nick yernick
[04:07] <nightcoder> maybelle: and eth1 to static with address 192.168.0.1
[04:07] <flapane> ANYONE with ATI, dapper and working 3d??
[04:07] <maybelle> can you pls give me a good configuration
[04:07] <noob31> thank YOU
[04:07] <shriphani> ziad i am sorry cant help
[04:08] <maybelle> w8 im doing it
[04:08] <ompaul> !ati
[04:08] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[04:08] <linu> shriphani: no, I mean to get rid of my nickname and go back to my user name ?
[04:08] <lisoe> hi
[04:08] <ziad> shriphani: thanx anyway....(y)
[04:08] <flapane> ompaul i don't need it thanks
[04:08] <grasshopper> hi Guys!
[04:08] <flapane> i already compiled the module and installed it
[04:08] <linu> shirphani: I've tried that and it doesn't work for some reason ...
[04:08] <flapane> but i have BadAlloc error on fglrxinfo
[04:08] <maybelle> what should i put in the gateway add mr nightcoder?
[04:08] <skipmeister> anybody on a laptop using cpuspeed?
[04:08] <nightcoder> maybelle: leave it blank
[04:09] <lisoe> do you reckon it's better to use ext2 ifs for windows or captive ntfs?
[04:09] <watson540> flapane: mine works fine, xgl and all
[04:09] <vincenz> nightcoder: never ming, install -f works ( had accidentally done ^C before... however I've done install -f before, and doing dist-upgrade keeps giving me te same error as on that webpage)
[04:09] <danfg> Ng: one is IDE, another is SATA (i guess its SCSI because its /dev/sda), both are NTFS. i'm trying to mount them, but the /dev/hda and /dev/sda are "busy", even though i cant umount them
[04:09] <danfg> Ng: if i try mounting /dev/hda1, the device doesnt exist (no /dev/hda1 file)
[04:09] <linu> What type of files are highlighted in a brown box ?
[04:09] <vincenz> can I somehow remove coreutils?
[04:09] <ompaul> watson540, so ehh did you follow the steps at !ati ?
[04:09] <linu> symbolic links perhaps ... ?
[04:09] <ziad> danfg: have u looked into /media/hda1
[04:10] <flapane> ompaul all the people folloowed that wiki, don't worry
[04:10] <Ng> danfg: you might want to run "sudo fdisk -l" - that will show you all the partitions on all disks the system is aware of
[04:10] <flapane> the probelm seems to be with dapper, as i see on google
[04:10] <maybelle__> night
[04:10] <nightcoder> vincenz: can you check 'coreutils' version ? Use 'synaptic' to seee it
[04:10] <nightcoder> maybelle: ?
[04:11] <vincenz> nightcoder: 5.2.1-2ubuntu2
[04:11] <maybelle__> when i tried it
[04:11] <maybelle__> i lost my internet connection :((
[04:11] <ompaul> flapane, what is annoying me is that I saw it working in a pub on Thursday night
[04:11] <florizs84> does anybody here have experice with mythTV?
[04:11] <danfg> ziad: only media i have is /media/cdrom. Ng: I did! these drives are listed in fdisk -l, but the device files/nodes/whatever aren't there, so i tried creating them with mknod, and i get "mount: /dev/hda1 is not a valid block device"
[04:11] <avis> df will tell you filesystem and mount points
[04:11] <nightcoder> vincenz: last version is  5.93-5ubuntu4
[04:11] <troytroy> hi my irssi cant connect to any server
[04:11] <vincenz> nightcoder: yep
[04:11] <vincenz> nightcoder: that's what it says
[04:11] <flapane> ompaul, video cards and hardwares aren't the same in the whole word m8
[04:12] <nightcoder> maybelle: you should change eth0 to 'DHCP'
[04:12] <Ng> danfg: hmm, that's quite strange
[04:12] <troytroy> "Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address: 72.20.45.189] "
[04:12] <vincenz> nightcoder: it has issues upgrading to that version due to the error on that webpage
[04:12] <ziad> danfg: cud plz type in the command u performed?
[04:12] <troytroy> hi my irssi cant connect to any server
[04:12] <troytroy> "Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address: 72.20.45.189] "
[04:12] <maybelle_> my ethernet connection is alreay at DHCP MODE
[04:12] <flapane> some ppl on google say that they had the same problems after having updated do dapper
[04:12] <nightcoder> vincenz: what if you try upgrade only coreutils ?
[04:12] <vincenz> nightcoder: same
[04:12] <nightcoder> vincenz: sudo apt-get install coreutils
[04:12] <danfg> ziad: mknod -m 660 /dev/hda1 b 3 1
[04:12] <flapane> the same error i have here, the error that i didn't have on breezy
[04:12] <vincenz> nightcoder: same problem
[04:13] <nightcoder> vincenz: you sources.list has changed during dist-upgrade ?
[04:13] <maybelle_> so when it is in DHCP mode i cannot change my ip add sumask and gateway nightcoder
[04:13] <gilianima> does someone know the equivalent of "recode euc-cn..utf8 -f myfile" using iconv ?
[04:13] <vincenz> nightcoder: Not sure, I would assume so?
[04:13] <MaKkY> how do i install a .bin file? its planeshift...
[04:13] <nightcoder> maybelle: you will change ip address and netmask of eth1
[04:13] <avis> maybelle are you doing network config in gnome ?
[04:13] <vincenz> nightcoder: yes
[04:13] <nightcoder> maybelle: have you 2 network interfaces, right ?
[04:14] <MaKkY> the website tells me to use the run command
[04:14] <maybelle_> yes
[04:14] <flapane> so noone here with ati latest driver, dapper, and working 3d?
[04:14] <MaKkY> how do i do that?
[04:14] <danfg> ziad: then i did: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/z -t ntfs
[04:14] <ziad> danfg: if i haven't missed ... u r trying to mount the Fat/NTFS partitions in linux..right??
[04:14] <nightcoder> vincenz: you can look into it :)
[04:14] <danfg> ziad: exactly
[04:14] <maybelle_> i jave 2 connection ethernet and modem connection
[04:14] <vincenz> nightcoder: I did, it's changed
[04:14] <gnomefreak> MaKkY: try sh file.bin  or ./file.bin
[04:14] <maybelle_> my ethernet connection is in dhcp mode already
[04:14] <vincenz> deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[04:14] <maybelle_> and my default gateway device is etho
[04:14] <Aeudian> anyone recommand a gui for bind9, can be gui or web pref is gui
[04:14] <ziad> danfg: well do u have any FAT/FAT32 partition??
[04:14] <maybelle_> can you teach me step by step pls...
[04:15] <Aeudian> recomend*
[04:15] <nightcoder> vincenz: can you show me errors (during coreutils upgrade ?) -- not dist-upgrade
[04:15] <vincenz> nightcoder: that is all there is to it
[04:15] <vincenz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/GpQwIO20.html
[04:15] <MonoNoSaint_BR> morning
[04:15] <nightcoder> vincenz: you can 'force'
[04:15] <MonoNoSaint_BR> anyone know where could I find updated Mono Packages for Dapper?
[04:15] <maybelle_> night :(
[04:16] <maybelle_> night :((
[04:16] <avis> maybelle, its relatively simple.  your static ip address is something ahead of what your gateway address starts with.  lets say 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1  then you would choose 192.168.1.10  (safe number, plenty of space for other clients) if you like unless you have another one in mind.  enter netmask 255.255.255.0  enter gateway which is 192.168.1.1 or 0.1
[04:16] <danfg> ziad: well it says /dev/sda1 is FAT16 and /dev/hda1 is SFS. i'm pretty sure sda1 is NTFS ("dynamic drive"), and hda1 has XP installed.
[04:16] <MonoNoSaint_BR> I'm having problemas with MD 0.10 and would appreciate to use 0.11.
[04:16] <nightcoder> vincenz: apt-get install coreutils --force-yes (or something like that)
[04:16] <nightcoder> maybelle: ?
[04:16] <danfg> ziad: according to fdisk -l that is
[04:16] <avis> dns server you can look up by logging into your router and looking at the status page and there will be two dns servers.  you can input them in gnome network setup
[04:16] <MaKkY> gnomefreak: planeshift.bin: planeshift.bin: cannot execute binary file
[04:16] <linuxgeekery> :) I just noticed ubuntu is #27 on PC World's top 100 products of the year
[04:16] <flapane> it seems all the ppl have switched to nvidia, then....
[04:16] <h3h_timo> which iso for ubuntu is the live cd????
[04:16] <vincenz> nightcoder: nope: http://rafb.net/paste/results/4xHgZT42.html
[04:16] <MaKkY> gnomefreak: that is the error i got
[04:17] <nightcoder> avis, maybelle internet connection seems to be DHCP ...
[04:17] <avis> maybelle, are ya with me ?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> MaKkY: did you use sh planeshift.bin?
[04:17] <MonoNoSaint_BR> flapane: The Desktop one
[04:17] <maybelle_> yes i am
[04:17] <maybelle_> im reading it
[04:17] <h3h_timo> is it the alternate?? or the desktop?
[04:17] <MaKkY> gnomefreak tried both, but i gtg for now...
[04:17] <MonoNoSaint_BR> h3h_timo: the desktop
[04:17] <flapane> MonoNoSaint_BR, what do you mean?
[04:17] <avis> maybelle, did you want a static ip or a dhcp address ?
[04:17] <MaKkY> gnaomefreak thank you though
[04:17] <maybelle_> when im changing my dhcp to static ip add im losing my internet connection
[04:17] <MaKkY> gnomefreak*
[04:17] <h3h_timo> MonoNoSaint_BR, thanks!
[04:17] <maybelle_> i want to use static ip add
[04:17] <MonoNoSaint_BR> Mono is 1.1.13 on the repos, I would like 1.1.15...
[04:17] <avis> static ip address gives you the advantage of opening a port or range of ports for services and applications
[04:17] <vincenz> nightcoder: it's actually crashing (error code 1)
[04:17] <reza> nightcoder: they are exactly the same
[04:17] <maybelle_> but when im changing it it static im losing my internet
[04:18] <maybelle_> avis...
[04:18] <danfg> ziad: you there? :)
[04:18] <nightcoder> vincenz: well after this
[04:18] <avis> ok
[04:18] <nightcoder> vincenz: remove /usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.textutils.1.gz
[04:18] <avis> what did you enter for gateway ?
[04:18] <avis> maybelle.
[04:18] <vincenz> nightcoder: yep :)
[04:18] <ompaul> Aeudian, all I can suggest that you have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BIND9ServerHowto
[04:18] <cordeiro05> hi everyone?
[04:18] <nightcoder> vincenz: this can solve or completely broke :)
[04:18] <maybelle_> 192.168.0.1 avis
[04:19] <MonoNoSaint_BR> flapane: I'd like to try mono 1.1.15 with MonoDevelop 0.11, 'cause I'm having problems with the one that is on dapper repository
[04:19] <vincenz> nightcoder: let's hope the first (it was going to remove it according to the log)
[04:19] <ziad> danfg: open /etc/profile
[04:19] <nightcoder> maybelle: under network admin are listed 2 interfaces, right ?
[04:19] <troytroy> hi my irssi cant connect to any server
[04:19] <troytroy> hi my irssi cant connect to any server
[04:19] <avis> maybelle, are you sure that is what you type in your browser to login to your router ?
[04:19] <reza> nightcoder: 0000:03:06.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31) 0000:03:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[04:19] <vincenz> troytroy: you are here
[04:19] <troytroy> "Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address: 72.20.45.189] "
[04:19] <cordeiro05> hey! i need a little help about how to use ubunto
[04:19] <danfg> ziad: what about it?
[04:19] <vincenz> troytroy: freenode was having problems before
[04:19] <avis> woohoo !
[04:19] <troytroy> am using mirc on windows
[04:19] <nightcoder> can you choose eth1 and put fixed ip address in it and leave eth0 with DHCP settings
[04:19] <noob31> i got sound to work when playing an mpg file
[04:19] <skipmeister> what options do I have for adjusting the way it throttles?/close
[04:19] <noob31> what do i do to get the video too?
[04:19] <vincenz> troytroy: I got serious lag and couldn't connect either for a few minutes
[04:19] <troytroy> vincenz, cant conect to any server
[04:20] <nightcoder> reza: rtl 8139 should work under 2.6.15-23
[04:20] <ompaul> troytroy, /server irc.freenode.net
[04:20] <avis> maybelle ??
[04:20] <avis> i lost ya..
[04:20] <ziad> danfg: forget the previous stuff
[04:20] <danfg> ziad: done
[04:20] <troytroy> vincenz, yes and any other server
[04:20] <maybelle_> logging in a router?
[04:20] <maybelle_> ei avis
[04:20] <troytroy> vincenz,  "Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address: 72.20.45.189] "
[04:20] <avis> yes when you access your router through a web browser what do you type ?
[04:20] <MonoNoSaint_BR> Is there any mono programmer here?
[04:20] <ziad> danfg: open /etc/fstab
[04:20] <nightcoder> reza: did you save 'lsmod' outputs ?
[04:20] <vincenz> troytroy: no idea, I'm not a tcpip expert
[04:21] <cordeiro05> i cann't hear my mp3 sound what do i hav to do?
[04:21] <troytroy> vincenz, so?
[04:21] <ompaul> cordeiro05, can you hear any sound?
[04:21] <maybelle_> w8 ill ask my brother pls gve me a second pls
[04:21] <maybelle_> avis
[04:21] <avis> cordeiro05, read restricted formats in the ubuntu wiki documentation
[04:21] <ziad> danfg: there check if u have the drives mentioned
[04:21] <avis> maybelle !
[04:21] <noob31> i have sound but no video when playing a MPG file
[04:21] <reza> nightcoder: the eth0 is the other one not rtl :|
[04:21] <avis> no !  just type it yourself !
[04:21] <MonoNoSaint_BR> cordeiro05: download the gstreamer ugly and bad plugins
[04:21] <avis> sigh
[04:21] <avis> ugh
[04:21] <ynef> troytroy: can it connect to other chat servers, then?
[04:21] <avis> maybelle
[04:21] <cordeiro05> no only mp3 tha is in another dirve
[04:21] <MonoNoSaint_BR> cordeiro05: there is one suitable for mp3 playback
[04:21] <nightcoder> reza: and bout lsmod outputs ?
[04:22] <maybelle_> ei avis are you there
[04:22] <troytroy> ynef, nope
[04:22] <maybelle_> avis...
[04:22] <avis> yes maybelle
[04:22] <troytroy> ynef, the same error
[04:22] <MonoNoSaint_BR> cordeiro05: did you mount the partition with those other mp3?
[04:22] <ompaul> cordeiro05, please read the reference from ubotu cheers
[04:22] <danfg> ziad: funny thing, if i try mounting /dev/hda (as opposed to /dev/hda1), it says "/dev/hda already mounted or /mnt/c busy", but if i "umount /dev/hda", i get "/dev/hda not mounted", haha. yes /etc/fstab has the mount i put in there for both drives
[04:22] <cordeiro05> no
[04:22] <avis> type 192.168.1.1 in your browser then type 192.168.0.1 stop and tell me which one asks for a login and tell me
[04:22] <maybelle_> avis here it is
[04:22] <ynef> troytroy: is the machine firewalled somehow?
[04:22] <maybelle_> 192.168.1.1
[04:22] <avis> that is your gateway
[04:23] <MonoNoSaint_BR> cordeiro05: so you have to mount the partition first to access it
[04:23] <avis> go ahead and type that into your browser
[04:23] <partsguy> if I have a linkys wireless router set up as a DHCP server and connect to it and use a dhcp connection do I stll have to imput the DNS servers in the prefs??
[04:23] <samu2> Any idea why I don't get any sound in ubuntu?
[04:23] <troytroy> ynef, nope thing is i used it before but now
[04:23] <ompaul> troytroy, did you do what I suggested?
[04:23] <avis> ask bro what the router login and pass is maybelle
[04:23] <cordeiro05> so how do i do it?
[04:23] <vincenz> nightcoder: btw, thanks for the help :)
[04:23] <troytroy> ompaul, what did u ...?
[04:23] <flapane> anyone with ati?
[04:23] <avis> admin admin, admin password -- are often defaults
[04:23] <ompaul> cordeiro05, read the web page that I had the bot send you
[04:23] <MonoNoSaint_BR> cordeiro05: it that a ntfs/fat partition?
[04:23] <maybelle_> ei avis
[04:23] <avis> yeh ?
[04:24] <maybelle_> im already in at my router configuration
[04:24] <nightcoder> vincenz: ok
[04:24] <vincenz> out of curiousity... who pays for the development of ubuntu
[04:24] <maybelle_> :d
[04:24] <avis> coolness
[04:24] <maybelle_> what should i do next
[04:24] <ompaul> troytroy, /server irc.freenode.net  <-- do that
[04:24] <ziad> danfg: so u have the partitions in fstab ???
[04:24] <avis> now find your two dns servers
[04:24] <maybelle_> hee hee =p
[04:24] <avis> heh !
[04:24] <neutrinomass> vincenz: I think it's the Ubuntu Foundation that pays for things.... alot of development is done by volunteers though
[04:24] <avis> find yours dns servers write them down and never lose them
[04:24] <maybelle_> i have my dns now
[04:24] <avis> okies
[04:24] <avis> enter that in dns
[04:24] <ziad> danfg: cud u plz copy/paste the first line after the colun headers
[04:24] <vincenz> neutrinomass: and where does the foundation get money?
[04:24] <neutrinomass> vincenz: In any case, the money probably comes from shuttleworth ...
[04:24] <avis> for netmask 255.255.255.0
[04:25] <avis> for static ip.. something like 192.168.1.10 would do
[04:25] <troytroy> ompaul, "unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address: 72.20.45.189] "
[04:25] <maybelle_> i have already here my primary and secondary DNS
[04:25] <neutrinomass> vincenz: Now if the question is how does shuttleworth make money, the answer is that 1. he has a lot 2. he sells support :)
[04:25] <maybelle_> whats next
[04:25] <maybelle_> :D
[04:25] <voraistos> vincenz: developers are also drug dealers
[04:25] <ziad> danfg: shud be something like this>> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults        0       0
[04:25] <danfg> ziad: yes, i just put them there recently: "/dev/hda  /mnt/z  ntfs ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0". i haven't booted yet. i get the same errors with mount -a though
[04:25] <maybelle_> avis
[04:25] <avis> netmask
[04:25] <ompaul> troytroy, is the user banned?
[04:25] <avis> look up
[04:25] <maybelle_> 255.255.255.0
[04:25] <avis> yes maam
[04:25] <danfg> ziad: vfat or ntfs? i'm pretty sure it's an ntfs partition
[04:25] <troytroy> ompaul, nope like i will not be chatting with u
[04:26] <vincenz> neutrinomass: I see.. I just don't get the economy behind linux distros... :/
[04:26] <avis> whats left maybelle ?
[04:26] <cordeiro05> where do ai write this?
[04:26] <samu2> what is the sound mixer thing called?
[04:26] <ziad> danfg: well....mine is vfat :p
[04:26] <troytroy> ompaul, fact is cant connect to any chat client
[04:26] <maybelle_> do i have to put this all in my network configuration?
[04:26] <maybelle_> avis
[04:26] <danfg> ziad: is it windows xp?
[04:26] <avis> yes maam
[04:26] <vincenz> neutrinomass: for instance many people at novell work on linux (I read an interview about a guy working on device drivers) just can't see how they fufnd that
[04:26] <avis> hehe
[04:26] <troytroy> ompaul, fact is cant connect to any chat server
[04:26] <avis> you should have been doing it
[04:26] <maybelle_> ok w8 avis ill try it
[04:27] <avis> then apply and activate the eth0
[04:27] <cordeiro05> where do i write this?
[04:27] <mr_hus> Hey im having problems with font rendering when viewing pdf's with evince. Kinda looks like old LaTeX documents... Anybody knows how this can be fixed?
[04:27] <avis> buttons in gnome
[04:27] <avis> acroread ?
[04:27] <arrais> thanks, guys. mbr recovered and ready to go
[04:27] <arrais> :-)
[04:27] <ziad> danfg: then u better try in /etc/profile ...write... mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/c at the bottom of the file content
[04:27] <voraistos> vincenz: coke is good when u devellop, and after work, u can have extra work ;)
[04:27] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[04:27] <ziad> danfg: yes mine's XP
[04:27] <neutrinomass> vincenz: Well, the money is not on the desktop, it's on the servers. RHEL costs a 4-figure sum I think.... Basically they don't make money selling distros, but by providing support. The free software model can survive even in commercial situations :)
[04:28] <danfg> ziad: /etc/profile? don't you mean /etc/fstab?
[04:28] <vincenz> neutrinomass: and it's a stable market?
[04:28] <ziad> danfg: this is an alternative
[04:28] <ziad> danfg: :d
[04:28] <danfg> ziad: ok, just asking
[04:28] <avis> i guess i will be ubuntu server certified engineer
[04:29] <avis> when i'm all done
[04:29] <mgorbach> guys can someone help me out ... i need to set up a fresh install of ubuntu with eclipse and the latest sun java
[04:29] <ziad> danfg: well u seem to have change ur user to root!!
[04:29] <mgorbach> iv just finished getting ubuntu installed
[04:29] <avis> lets hope the ubuntu system can stand up to the web server market for large scale deployment with things like cpanel and fantastico
[04:29] <__doc__> hi, I've got problems getting my graphics driver to run
[04:29] <maybelle> ei avis
[04:29] <avis> yeh ?
[04:29] <danfg> ziad: done that, i don't enjoy the whole sudo this sudo that... i did a sudo -i
[04:29] <maybelle> avis :((
[04:29] <__doc__> I can run only in vesa mode
[04:29] <avis> wus wrong ?
[04:30] <maybelle> i lost my internet
[04:30] <maybelle> sob
[04:30] <avis> activate it again
[04:30] <mr_hus> And it's weird too. In Evince, if i select the text that is rendered ugly, when selected, it is rendered nicely!! Anybody have ideas?
[04:30] <avis> you'll lost it at first
[04:30] <neutrinomass> vincenz: Maybe we should continue in #ubuntu-offtopic ? This is mainly a support channel ... :)
[04:30] <ziad> danfg: same here...so tell me how u did that
[04:30] <__doc__> would need some help with nvidia/xorg config
[04:30] <ziad> danfg: coz i want to use chmod badly
[04:30] <maybelle> then what happens?
[04:30] <vincenz> sudo apt-get dist-upgradeThe following packages have been kept back:  gnome-cups-manager libgdal1-dev python-netcdf
[04:30] <partsguy> -avis- I have a simalar situation, if my router is DHCP and no static IPS, Do I still need to manually input the dns server addresses for eth0?
[04:30] <vincenz> neutrinomass: good idea
[04:30] <__doc__> when I follow the instructions for nvidia installation my gdm doesn't boot anymore.
[04:30] <maybelle> avis
[04:30] <vincenz> neutrinomass: or join #oasis, my chan ;)
[04:30] <avis> maybelle, i'm sorry but i've helped you all i can
[04:30] <danfg> ziad: i'll reboot and get back to you, thanks a lot for the help man, i appreciate it
[04:30] <maybelle> do i have to reboot after ive done it?
[04:31] <nightcoder> maybelle: not
[04:31] <ziad> danfg: :D
[04:31] <__doc__> help?
[04:31] <maybelle> do i have to reboot after ive done it? after i change my network configuration
[04:31] <reza> .
[04:31] <avis> no maybe
[04:31] <nightcoder> maybelle:
[04:31] <avis> no maybelle
[04:31] <vincenz> what does it mean if packets are held back?
[04:31] <maybelle> errrr
[04:31] <avis> just activate ethX
[04:31] <nightcoder> maybelle: try pint your gateway
[04:31] <ziad> folks have anyone upgraded to the new version?
[04:31] <nightcoder> maybelle: ping
[04:31] <rastax> Hi there
[04:32] <maybelle> w8
[04:32] <gilianima> how to decode mac files to be able to use it on linux ?
[04:32] <reza> nightcoder: they differ alot which part should i check?
[04:32] <rastax> I have asm960, but I can't run on Ubuntu
[04:32] <avis> i think i've played m4a on linux
[04:32] <__doc__> I can't boot my x-server with nvidia drivers, help.
[04:32] <troytroy> hi my irssi cant connect to any server
[04:32] <maybelle> what command shoud i type?
[04:32] <rastax> bash: ./asm960: cannot execute binary file
[04:32] <nightcoder> reza, you should look for you networkd card module
[04:32] <maybelle> im sorry im really a newbie with this one i hope u undrstand
[04:32] <avis> i used to use debug to start writing in assembly
[04:32] <avis> it was a dirty job
[04:33] <rastax> maybelle, are you female?
[04:33] <nightcoder> reza: whats your card model ? Realtek 8139 ?
[04:33] <rastax> someone helpme
[04:33] <maybelle> yes and i am trying 2 configure my network here
[04:33] <maybelle> errr
[04:33] <nightcoder> maybelle: type 'ping 192.1.6.1.1' in terminal
[04:33] <rastax> I have asm960, when I put ./asm960 in command line, error to me: bash: ./asm960: cannot execute binary file
[04:33] <ompaul> troytroy,   >>>sudo dpkg -P --force-depends irssi-text &&sudo apt-get install irssi-text <<<  do that, it will reinstall it
[04:33] <__doc__> I cannot start my xserver with nvidia drivers (installed nvidia-gfx and followed instructions from the site)
[04:33] <reza> nightcoder: eth0 is    0000:03:06.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31)
[04:33] <maybelle> night: unknown host
[04:33] <avis> nightcoder, her gateway is 192.168.1.1
[04:34] <avis> that is what she should ping
[04:34] <avis> OTOH it might not be pingable
[04:34] <nightcoder> reza: wait a minute, please Ill check whats module it uses
[04:34] <avis> actually from her computer it is.
[04:34] <avis> my bad
[04:34] <nightcoder> reza: dmfe
[04:34] <rastax> I have asm960, when I put ./asm960 in command line, error to me: bash: ./asm960: cannot execute binary file
[04:35] <avis> nightcoder, feel free to help i've tried all i can
[04:35] <samu2> does alsa have the same function as esd?
[04:35] <ompaul> troytroy, turn off xchat before you try to connect
[04:35] <maybelle> when i type 192.168.1.1  it just keeps in pingng
[04:35] <nightcoder> maybelle: type in terminal 'sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1'
[04:35] <avis> are you getting 0's maybelle ?
[04:35] <avis> did you enter static ip address maybelle
[04:35] <Rectab> how to upgrade my ubuntu from 5 to 6 version
[04:35] <Rectab> ?
[04:35] <avis> if so then ping static ip address
[04:35] <reza> nightcoder:  in 15 : dmfe  21532  0    in 9: dmfe   18332  0
[04:35] <nightcoder> avis, I think maybelle is using a DHCP internet connection ... and has a eth1 to local network
[04:35] <noob31> what is xine ?
[04:36] <maybelle>  192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
[04:36] <maybelle> 75 packets transmitted, 75 received, 0% packet loss, time 74055ms
[04:36] <maybelle> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.345/0.364/0.385/0.021 ms
[04:36] <ynef> __doc__: what does the log file say? /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:36] <Aven> wow
[04:36] <ziad> does ubuntu_6.06 has xgl integrated in it??
[04:36] <Aven> ubuntu 6 isn't stable at all
[04:36] <Rectab> how to upgrade my ubuntu from 5 to 6 version
[04:36] <ompaul> Rectab, thereare two versions - in the 5 series which one have you got
[04:36] <troytroy> ompaul, ok but i have irssi installed but not irssi-text
[04:36] <Rectab> ?
[04:36] <maybelle> yes that is correct night coder
[04:36] <pradeep> ziad, no
[04:36] <Aven> Rectab: don't!
[04:36] <avis> nightcoder, yes but nothing is stopping her from assigning a static ip address
[04:36] <Aven> it's not stable
[04:36] <ziad> pradeep: have u used it already?
[04:36] <avis> she has two dns servers
[04:36] <Rectab> ompaul, newest
[04:36] <Aven> I'm planning to downgrade :\
[04:36] <nightcoder> reza, search for another module using dmfe (second column)
[04:36] <c172> is it possible to start the vnc server in ubuntu from an ssh shell?
[04:37] <ompaul> Rectab, what does this say, lsb_release -d ?
[04:37] <avis> poor me i have alot of hours to stay up.
[04:37] <Aven> c172: yeah
[04:37] <pradeep> ziad, it not built in ... but if you have a good graphic card .. you can set it up
[04:37] <maybelle> night here what come out when i type in sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[04:37] <nightcoder> avis, I send a route commad to maybelle ...
[04:37] <reza> nightcoder: there is only one dmfe in each
[04:37] <ziad> pradeep: do u think an ATI Radeon 9600 pro wud do??
[04:37] <maybelle> SIOCADDRT: File exists
[04:37] <troytroy> ompaul, ok but i have irssi installed but not irssi-text
[04:37] <c172> aven, how would I get it to run for a certain user?
[04:37] <avis> maybelle its much easier if you use the gnome gui
[04:37] <nightcoder> reza ... can you look into 'dmesg' of both kernels ?
[04:37] <Rectab> ompaul, Description:    Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release)
[04:37] <__doc__> Need some help with configuring xserver/nvidia drivers, plz msg me
[04:38] <ziad> pradeep: it;s an old one thou
[04:38] <c172> I had it automatically logging in then using the desktop sharing option, then I upgraded and it stopped...
[04:38] <maybelle> what should i do what command ???
[04:38] <nightcoder> maybelle, type: 'sudo route del default'
[04:38] <Aven> c172: well, log on as that user, then type 'vncserver'
[04:38] <ompaul> Rectab, read the message from ubotu
[04:38] <Aven> without the '
[04:38] <c172> it's too bad something like remote desktop wouldn't work in linux
[04:38] <kyncani> __doc__: like someone has already told you before, check your logs
[04:38] <nightcoder> maybelle: try now ...
[04:38] <pradeep> ziad, i have no idea, check the forums ... there are tons of threads on XGL etc
[04:38] <Rectab> ok
[04:38] <Rectab> thanks
[04:38] <ziad> pradeep: well..cud u tell me how to change user to root?
[04:38] <reza> nightcoder: takes another 15 mins :) will you be here?
[04:39] <nightcoder> reza: yes :P
[04:39] <avis> nightcoder i wasn't aware you were doing all this from console.. i applaud your skills
[04:39] <reza> thank you
[04:39] <ompaul> troytroy, irssi is the command line -text is the package
[04:39] <c172> I'm supposed to have a vncserver executable?
[04:39] <pradeep> ziad, type sudo su in terminal
[04:39] <__doc__> kyncani: the xserver logs, the gdm logs or the kernel logs? where do I find the respective important information (I suppose somewhere in /var/logs)
[04:39] <c172> that's funny, ubuntu apparently doesn't think so
[04:39] <iiiears> Good Morning Nalioth.
[04:39] <ynef> __doc__: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:39] <nightcoder> avis, to speak true I can learn some gui-related ways of helping people :)
[04:39] <kyncani> __doc__: all of them, starting with xserver logs
[04:40] <ziad> pradeep: thanx a lot mate.
[04:40] <pradeep> ziad, np
[04:40] <avis> nightcoder, are you trying to tell me you take the road less travelled ?
[04:40] <c172> what configuration files make ubuntu automatically log on a user when gdm starts?
[04:40] <nalioth> howdy iiiears
[04:40] <__doc__> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[04:40] <__doc__> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[04:40] <avis> not not change device id in xorg.conf
[04:40] <avis> do not
[04:40] <maybelle__> what did you do  night
[04:41] <ynef> __doc__: is your xorg.conf file set up correctly, using "nvidia" as the driver?
[04:41] <maybelle__> no such process comes out
[04:41] <maybelle__> then i lost my internet connection
[04:41] <maybelle__> :((
[04:41] <troytroy> ompaul, man u wasted my time did not work
[04:41] <gnott> hi..got problems with a pxeboot /install: client tries to load pxelinux.cfg/default but finds no kernel - anyone got advice?
[04:41] <troytroy> ompaul, "Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address: 72.20.45.189"
[04:41] <maybelle__> avis
[04:41] <samu2> crap, sound isnt working...
[04:41] <maybelle__> r u der
[04:41] <avis> troytroy, nobody wasted anything he did his best and its a privellege to get any help from anyone for free
[04:41] <maybelle__> nightcoder
[04:42] <nightcoder> avis: not ... Im only trying to tell that I need to learn more 'how to configure' using guis (is best to help newbies)
[04:42] <maybelle__> i lost my interne
[04:42] <maybelle__> t
[04:42] <gnott> I downloaded the netboot-kit and untarred the netboot.tar.gz in /var/lib/tftpboot/
[04:42] <nightcoder> maybelle: tell me if last command works
[04:42] <avis> hehe nightcoder if you can do it from console then gui will be snap :)
[04:42] <__doc__> maybelle__: yes, when I got nvidia in there it screws up, currently I have vesa in, only thing that works
[04:42] <ompaul> troytroy, the problem is not with the client, you have learnt something, so your - wrong - now next have you some class of a firewall in place?
[04:42] <kyncani> __doc__: well, you should check what this securitypolicy file is (google), check which package should provide it (apt-file), and figure out if this is why X isn't working
[04:42] <maybelle__> no
[04:42] <maybelle__> it did not
[04:42] <iiiears> gnott - is pxe a virtual machine?
[04:42] <avis> __doc__, did you apt-get install the necessary files ?  including the nvidia-kernel-common
[04:43] <nightcoder> maybelle: please open 'network-admin'
[04:43] <troytroy> avis, am not talking to u
[04:43] <avis> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[04:43] <maybelle__> where can i find network admin
[04:43] <avis> troytroy i was talking to you
[04:43] <gnott> iiiears, virtual machine? i got the tftp-server running on a physical workstation, the client is a laptop...
[04:43] <maybelle__> nightcoder correction
[04:43] <maybelle__> it work
[04:43] <__doc__> avis: I didn't install anything else then nvidia-glx
[04:43] <nightcoder> System -> Admin -> Network
[04:43] <maybelle__> but.......
[04:43] <troytroy> avis, whats ur problem u know the kind of bond that exist bn as
[04:43] <maybelle__> ok ok
[04:43] <c172> I knew that upgrade wouldn't just work... that would be too easy
[04:43] <avis> __doc__, see url
[04:43] <maybelle__> then what is next
[04:44] <ziad> pradeep: um trying to apt-get install yahoomsngr.deb
[04:44] <maybelle__> ive already open my network im using 2 computers now
[04:44] <iiiears> Ah, Okay. - I always learn something new here.
[04:44] <ziga_> I mounted the NTFS drive, but how can i access write permissions on this drive?
[04:44] <georgeguitar> Hello I want to use this function: mdelay(10) in a program but when I try to compile it, it can't find the lib
[04:44] <troytroy> ompaul, ok bro so what do i do cos xchat connects perfctly
[04:44] <ziad> pradeep: but it says "package cudn't be found"
[04:44] <georgeguitar> delay.h
[04:44] <nightcoder> maybelle: under network-admin are listed how many interfaces ?
[04:44] <ziad> pradeep: but the package is in the dir
[04:44] <pradeep> ziad, there no package for yahoo messenger
[04:45] <pradeep> ziad, what dir?
[04:45] <__doc__> avis: doing that apt-get from the url did nothing, that was already installed
[04:45] <ompaul> troytroy, scroll back and answer my last question please
[04:45] <troytroy> ompaul, so question is what firewall will block irssi and give way to xchat
[04:45] <ynef> __doc__: what is the ouptut of "file /usr/lib/libGL.so"? If it says "symbolic link", keep asking "file" about it until you get something that is an ELF shared object
[04:45] <ompaul> or one connection
[04:45] <rastax> nobody can help me
[04:45] <ziad> pradeep: but i've downloaded the .deb file
[04:45] <maybelle__> i got 2
[04:45] <ynef> rastax: what did you ask?
[04:45] <rastax> I have asm960, when I put ./asm960 in command line, error to me: bash: ./asm960: cannot execute binary file
[04:45] <nightcoder> rastax: whats you prolem ?
[04:45] <maybelle__> 1 modem 1 ethernet connection
[04:45] <ziga_> one question:I mounted the NTFS drive for reading, but how can i write into it? thank you
[04:46] <maybelle__> 1 modem 1 ethernet connection nightcoder
[04:46] <nightcoder> maybelle: that 2 interfaces are network or modem ?
[04:46] <nightcoder> maybelle: hmmm
[04:46] <nalioth> ziga_: you can write to it with Windows
[04:46] <ynef> ziga_: you can't -- not safely, anyway. if the thought of writing to ntfs is more important to you than your data, you can always try to use Captive (google it)
[04:46] <pradeep> ziad, the deb from the yahoo site is very old ... anyway to install it do: sudo dpkg -i yahoomessenger.deb
[04:46] <troytroy> ompaul, not any i am aware of cos irssi connected perfectly first
[04:46] <ziga_> ynef, thank you
[04:46] <maybelle__> no its different
[04:46] <neutrinomass> Does anybody have an alcatel speedtouch adsl modem ?
[04:46] <nightcoder> maybelle: click ethernet to select ir
[04:46] <maybelle__> 1 is ethernet connection
[04:46] <avis> troytroy i have no problem.  i simply stated my opinion about your lack of courtesy.
[04:46] <pradeep> ziad, apt-get install is for packages in the repository
[04:46] <maybelle__> d oder is moden connection
[04:47] <T_D_H> is there somewere i can DL a breezy badger boot floopy, and write in using windows???
[04:47] <So_Simple> i dont know why but i cant access to repositories... allways time out!!!
[04:47] <freezey> how do i check the chmod for a dir?
[04:47] <spikeb> you realise you can double click on a .deb and an installer will run, right pradeep ?
[04:47] <ynef> rastax: what does "file asm960" tell you?
[04:47] <troytroy> ompaul, and i have not setup any firewalls since then
[04:47] <maybelle__> what is ir nightcoder
[04:47] <nightcoder> maybelle: open ethernet properties
[04:47] <maybelle__> then
[04:47] <ynef> freezey: "ls -l" outside of the directory
[04:47] <pradeep> ziad, you can also double click on the deb file instead of the terminal
[04:47] <troytroy> avis, hey stop pissing me ok
[04:47] <maybelle__> then
[04:47] <troytroy> avis, now u telling i ve not got manners?
[04:47] <iiiears> nalioth - Is running an app like Yahoo messenger or any other network application in wine safer or more dangerous than natively in Ubuntu linux?
[04:47] <nightcoder> maybelle: please tell me whats your settings ? (sorry for no remember)
[04:47] <freezey> ynef: i need to open up full write permissions to this dir whats the chmod for that?
[04:48] <avis> troytroy, that is bad language for this room.  if i'm upsetting you its your problem not mine.
[04:48] <ynef> freezey: to whom? you or everyone?
[04:48] <freezey> ynef: everyone
[04:48] <So_Simple> i dont know why but i cant access to repositories... time out!!!
[04:48] <nalioth> iiiears: you'll be fine, just keep in mind that wine is not quite as 'stable' as windows (but sometimes it's more so)
[04:48] <ynef> freezey: chmod 777 directory
[04:48] <maybelle__> what do you mean setting ?
[04:48] <maybelle__> setting in what</
[04:48] <So_Simple> i dont know why but i cant access to repositories... time out!!! help me please....
[04:48] <nalioth> ziga_: please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:48] <ziad> pradeep: ok ok..i didn't know that..thanx
[04:48] <nightcoder> maybelle: im talking about your ip address, netmask, etc
[04:49] <troytroy> avis, well kudos Mr. Milton or Shakespear
[04:49] <B0FH> is there anyone here that can help me repair the damage that XGL has done to my gui?
[04:49] <maybelle__> i dont have any
[04:49] <Kalkran> How can I get the Dapper repo's? I'm running Breezy..
[04:49] <maybelle__> settings
[04:49] <ompaul> troytroy, try to join here: 38.99.64.210
[04:49] <troytroy> avis, what ever u call ur self
[04:49] <B0FH> i can provide error logs if need be
[04:49] <maybelle__> can u give me the proper settings...
[04:49] <reza> nightcoder: :) so what should i check id dmesg?
[04:49] <troytroy> ompaul, ok bro
[04:49] <gnomefreak> Kalkran: you dont want to mix dapper adn breezy repos
[04:49] <ynef> freezey: if you want the files in that dir to be world readable as well, you should go to it and use the "chmod og+rw *" command, which adds (+) read and write access to "others" and "group"
[04:49] <nightcoder> reza: look for 'eth0' and 'eth1'
[04:49] <kdean06> Kalkran, open /etc/apt/sources.list as root and change the word breezy to dapper. Save the file and run apt-get update
[04:49] <Kalkran> gnomefreak, I don't.. I just want to dist-upgrade to Dapper for XGL
[04:49] <nightcoder> reza: are it recognized ?
[04:49] <Kalkran> ty kdean06
[04:50] <vincenz> is vim 7 going to be pushed into dapper?
[04:50] <ompaul> troytroy, the other thing is don't use bad language and respect all
[04:50] <gnomefreak> Kalkran: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[04:50] <kdean06> Kalkran, but gnomefreak was correct, mixing repos can cause some instability.
[04:50] <pradeep> ziad, you can try gaim (with which you can login to yahoo,msn,gtalk etc: sudo apt-get install gaim
[04:50] <avis> troytroy dont be so hard on yourself, just ease up and be nice, and btw, i dont have more than a GED education for a shakespear
[04:50] <ynef> vincenz: i guess it isn't, but you could hope for the backports that will most likely start coming in :)
[04:50] <nightcoder> maybelle: do you want to try some terminal comands ?
[04:50] <vincenz> ynef: I'm crossing my fingers, and for that matter ghc 6.4.2 iso 6.4.1
[04:50] <maybelle__> ok sure sure
[04:50] <Bezzer> hey
[04:50] <troytroy> ompaul,  "Unable to connect server 38.99.64.210 port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address: 72.20.45.189"
[04:50] <vincenz> maybe we'll get lucky and we get 6.6
[04:50] <maybelle__> my brother and i are working together here
[04:50] <ynef> vincenz: well, you can always hope :)
[04:51] <maybelle__> just tell me what to type
[04:51] <maybelle__> :(
[04:51] <ziad> pradeep: since u've tried ubuntu 6...did u find it stable
[04:51] <maybelle__> pls .... patience
[04:51] <rastax> asm960:          a.out NetBSD/i386 demand paged dynamically linked executable
[04:51] <ziad> pradeep: otherwise..i won;t have it upgraded
[04:51] <Bezzer> does anyone know how I can set the network dns address without using the gui?
[04:51] <nightcoder> maybelle: type ifconfig and tell me whats eth ip address, ok ?
[04:51] <ompaul> troytroy, you got something unique there - why are you looking for that machine it is not an irc server
[04:51] <maybelle__> k w8
[04:51] <reza> nightcoder: recognized but different in 2 kernels
[04:51] <ynef> rastax: well, then that's your problem -- you should get the linux version. the one you've got is for NetBSD
[04:52] <pradeep> it great ziad
[04:52] <troytroy> ompaul, ok bro so what do i do to set irssi running again
[04:52] <nightcoder> reza: under 2.6.15-23 it is recognized ? as eth0 or eth1 ?
[04:52] <reza> nightcoder: 15:   [4294693.171000]  eth0: Davicom DM9102/DM9102A rev 49 at 0001cc00, 00:08:A1:7F:33:BA, IRQ 185.     and 9: [4294675.299000]  eth0: Davicom DM9102 at pci0000:03:06.0, 00:08:a1:7f:33:ba, irq 19.
[04:52] <ziad> pradeep: kool
[04:52] <maybelle__> inet addr:192.168.1.100 nightcoder
[04:52] <maybelle__> inet addr:192.168.1.100 nightcoder
[04:52] <iiiears> !flood
[04:52] <ubotu> from memory, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org or #flood here on freenode.
[04:52] <nightcoder> maybelle: type 'ping 192.168.1.1'
[04:52] <Bizzeh> hey
[04:53] <Bizzeh> are there any tools for creating your own livecd?
[04:53] <reza> nightcoder: in 15 both eth1 and eth0 are recognized
[04:53] <nightcoder> maybelle: the host '192.168.1.1' answer ?
[04:53] <ompaul> troytroy, well something is returning that ip to you, your call, we can get to it, I gave you a specific one and your returned that, its like a proxy or some such so no idea there
[04:53] <troytroy> avis, aint no fight here for u. go find some where else
[04:53] <gnomefreak> ompaul: fyi on my issue with other pc vesa, nv, nor nvidia worked i ended up doing  aserver install from flight 4 but i still havent set it up after that
[04:53] <ynef> Bizzeh: morphix linux is a distro made especially for that stuff, IIRC
[04:53] <SeanTater_> if I only want to allow people with authenticated SSH Keys into a ssh server, and disallow anyone to get into it with only a password -- what would I do
[04:53] <mnk> hello all. i am trying to use my HP LaserJet 1000 usb printer with ubuntu but the native drivers don't work. I also tried the hacks online and again they didn't work. The printer gets recognised [i can even print it from vmware windows guest]  but when i try to print under linux, it just hangs - it says it is printing, but nothing. no light flashing on printer, nothing. PLEASE help me someone as I have my final year project to do. Thanks!
[04:53] <avis> yes Bizzeh mkisofs or something like that but you supply the boot options and parameters hehe
[04:53] <neutrinomass> reza: Let me guess.... dhcp isn't working ?
[04:53] <ompaul> troytroy, I asked you once to drop it
[04:53] <tkjacobse1> dsslive.org also good for making your own livecd
[04:53] <Bezzer> do I use /etc/resolv.conf?
[04:53] <iiiears> Bizzeh - Do you mean beyond makeisof? - there are a bunch of howtos in the forum.
[04:54] <ompaul> troytroy, now be nice
[04:54] <Bizzeh> avis: looking for something a little more automated :P
[04:54] <reza> neutrinomass : yes dhcp is not working :( sad  but true lol
[04:54] <mr_hus> how are you supposed to install fonts in ubuntu (those not in the package management)??? Do you just drag-n-drop them into nautilus fonts:/// ?
[04:54] <troytroy> ompaul, yes master
[04:54] <nightcoder> reza: 15 seems to be ok
[04:54] <ynef> mr_hus: yeah, should work
[04:54] <maybelle__> network is unreachable
[04:54] <neutrinomass> reza: Heh :D
[04:54] <troytroy> ompaul, :(
[04:54] <avis> Bizzeh, a live cd ?  linux distro ?  of your own ????
[04:54] <T_D_H> is there somewere i can DL a breezy badger boot floopy, and write in using windows???
[04:54] <nightcoder> reza: eth0 is DAVICOM under both kernels ?
[04:54] <neutrinomass> reza: Don't touch anything regarding ifconfig and dhcp settings, they are all fine.
[04:54] <nightcoder> maybelle:
[04:54] <Bizzeh> avis: no, when i install ubuntu, i wanna wrap it up into a livecd
[04:54] <maybelle__> network is unreachable nightcoder
[04:54] <maybelle__> yes
[04:54] <nightcoder> maybelle: ok
[04:55] <nightcoder> maybelle: type
[04:55] <maybelle__> aw w8
[04:55] <tkjacobse1> dsslive: DEbian BASED Live Linux System
[04:55] <maybelle__> my brother
[04:55] <reza> nightcoder: yes same but with different IRQs etc. i copied it for you :)
[04:55] <maybelle__> says
[04:55] <neutrinomass> reza: 'sudo rmmod tulip && sudo rmmod dmfe && sudo modprobe dmfe' and your problem is fixed :)
[04:55] <Bizzeh> i have a laptop with a dead hdd, and i cant get to the hdd to replace it
[04:55] <reza> neutrinomass : i know but how can i fix it?
[04:55] <maybelle__> w8
[04:55] <Bezzer> I've set up eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, but I don't know where to set the dns address for the connection
[04:55] <nathan_> anyone know if there is a way to get a Cannon PiXMA iP1600 printer to work in linux?
[04:55] <tkjacobse1> bizzeh: it is build from debian/ubuntu packages
[04:55] <maybelle__> somthng comes out
[04:55] <maybelle__> pls w8
[04:55] <ompaul> tkjacobse1, got a url for that
[04:55] <reza> neutrinomass : is it?
[04:55] <Bizzeh> so i was thinkin of using a ubuntu lice disk, with some extra stuff
[04:55] <Bizzeh> *live
[04:55] <tkjacobse1> dsslive.org
[04:55] <avis> ok so install ubuntu then backup the filestructure and permissions in a cd or dvd to restore once again ?  thats a great idea !
[04:55] <ynef> Bezzer: /etc/resolv.conf
[04:55] <nightcoder> maybelle: sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[04:56] <neutrinomass> reza: Yes. I nearly killed myself trying to figure out what's wrong. I put up a wiki page to help others but apparently you didn't run across it.
[04:56] <Bizzeh> avis: no. i wanna install ubuntu, then from that install, create a cd that i can boot from
[04:56] <nightcoder> reza: different irqs ?
[04:56] <avis> a grub boot cd ?
[04:56] <avis> man grub
[04:56] <mwe> what's a good tool for logging network trafic?
[04:56] <ynef> Bezzer: fill /etc/resolv.conf with lines such as "nameserver some.ip.address.here"
[04:56] <troytroy> ompaul, i have switched from 3 independent networks and still getting same error message
[04:56] <avis> that can be done
[04:56] <reza> neutrinomass : i couldnt find any help in the net :( thanks :)
[04:56] <avis> some people dont have floppies
[04:56] <neutrinomass> reza: AFAIK it broke after breezy (I never had the chance to use breezy so I don't know). It will be fixed in the next kernel update for dapper
[04:56] <Bezzer> ok thanks
[04:56] <reza> nightcoder: yes
[04:56] <Bizzeh> avis: what is used to create current ubuntu live/install cds?
[04:56] <Bezzer> just wasn't sure because that file didn't exist
[04:57] <tkjacobse1> ompaul: they even have a really simple howto
[04:57] <maybelle__> nothng comes out nightcoder
[04:57] <avis> Bizzeh, no idea
[04:57] <maybelle__> i type here
[04:57] <nightcoder> reza: you can try pass irq argument to modprobe
[04:57] <neutrinomass> reza: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DavicomEthernet
[04:57] <ompaul> troytroy, so its like your getting to a proxy got some funny .irssirc file there?
[04:57] <maybelle__> sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[04:57] <nightcoder> maybelle: now try to ping 192.168.0.1
[04:57] <reza> brb going to check !
[04:57] <CrippsFX> http://spaces.msn.com/mmm2006-05-01_18.20/# ... I think Microsoft is stealing from ubuntu ;)
[04:57] <troytroy> ompaul, ??/
[04:57] <neutrinomass> nightcoder: It's a driver issue. The chipset is not 100% compatible with the tulip driver as everybody thought it would be. It gets picked up by the tulip driver, but the dmfe driver is the one that should be used.
[04:57] <mgorbach> can someone answer some basic ubuntu questions for me?
[04:58] <maybelle__> ok
[04:58] <iiiears> Bezzar - Firestarter is a GUI firewall software that can help with basic configurations.
[04:58] <maybelle__> it keeps on ping'ng
[04:58] <CrippsFX> mgorbach, if you ask them, yes.
[04:58] <gnomefreak> mgorbach: if you ask them we will try
[04:58] <avis> CrippsFX, good for ubuntu :)
[04:58] <mgorbach> how do i get new versions of software? for example why do i have vlc .8.4 instead of .8.5
[04:58] <CrippsFX> mgorbach, first point of advice, don't ask to ask a question, just ask it.
[04:58] <maybelle__> wah
[04:58] <neutrinomass> nightcoder: Ooops, sorry. I thought you were talking to reza
[04:58] <CrippsFX> avis ;)
[04:58] <avis> mgorbach, im ok with basic questions
[04:58] <avis> hehehe :)
[04:58] <nightcoder> neutrinomass: any workaround ?
[04:58] <mgorbach> when i know .8.5 is availble? im comming from gentoo and this is strange to me
[04:58] <nightcoder> maybelle: ping works ?
[04:59] <iiiears> Bizzeh - I seem to remember " mondo backup" mad an iso of your install.
[04:59] <gnomefreak> mgorbach: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:59] <maybelle__> yes
[04:59] <maybelle__> and it doesnt stop
[04:59] <maybelle__>  /wah
[04:59] <maybelle__> what shud i do next</
[04:59] <mgorbach> latest
[04:59] <avis> CrippsFX, let them steal, then ubuntu can get wicked with their server deployment
[04:59] <neutrinomass> nightcoder: Yes. Unload the tulip driver and reload dmfe. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DavicomEthernet - it will be fixed int he latest dappe rkernel
[04:59] <nightcoder> maybelle: your interface is ok
[04:59] <mgorbach> downloaded today ... its the Dapper Drake LTS release
[04:59] <iiiears> Good Morning thoreauputic.
[04:59] <maybelle__> what shud i do next?
[04:59] <avis> on m$ dime
[04:59] <thoreauputic> hi iiiears :)
[04:59] <gnomefreak> mgorbach: if using dapper than most likely 8.5 came out after the freeze
[04:59] <nightcoder> neutrinomass: when reza come back please tell it to he
[04:59] <nightcoder> maybelle: now type
[04:59] <avis> ok mgorbach
[04:59] <mgorbach> so is there a way to upgrade?
[05:00] <thoreauputic> iiiears: not here for long - 1 am here
[05:00] <avis> so you would like to install ubuntu ? mgorbach ?
[05:00] <nightcoder> maybelle: sudo ifconfig eth0:0 down
[05:00] <neutrinomass> nightcoder: I told him :)
[05:00] <maybelle__> ei nightcoder my brother is asking do we nid to setup a host and a client?
[05:00] <gnomefreak> mgorbach: you would have to install the newest version either find a .deb for it or compile it from tar
[05:00] <nightcoder> maybelle: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[05:00] <neutrinomass> T_D_H: You could try asking in the room ...
[05:00] <avis> mgorbach, yes but it seems from what i've read people have had a horrible track record.  best to backup and fresh install
[05:00] <T_D_H> i have 2 times :o
[05:00] <ompaul> troytroy, what is your ip address on the interweb?
[05:00] <avis> it will upgrade but things will break and people dont know how to fix
[05:00] <jenda> mgorbach: you DL'd the CD - you can use that for a clean install - or run sudo package-manager -d to upgrade from Breezy.
[05:01] <mgorbach> avis ... im talking about upgrading VLC to a newer version
[05:01] <gnomefreak> guys hes not asking how to upgrade dist
[05:01] <mgorbach> ubuntu has this policy of "freezing" packages that seems strange to me comming from gentoo
[05:01] <ziga_> thank you for the last answer, now next question : I have network printer on Host 192.168.1.3 , which is running under Windows. However, that printer doesn't seem to work if I try to print on Ubuntu. The printer is HP 990cxi, but in Ubuntu i can only chooose HP 990c . Please tell me, how can i setup this printer, thank you
[05:01] <T_D_H> anywayz im on dial up, my friend screwed up making the breezy badger CD by opening the iso then burning it, not burning the image so i need a boot image for a floopy
[05:01] <avis> mgorbach, apt-get install vlc ; apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[05:01] <neutrinomass> reza: so ?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> mgorbach: most distros do they wont allow a newer version after a certain date for stability
[05:02] <iiiears> Ah, Thanks. - You and the many other regulars here make Ubuntu the great escape from Windows viruses, spyware and adware possible. :)
[05:02] <avis> or download the source and if your dare to do so use alien to turn a tar.gz to deb and dpkg -i .deb
[05:02] <c172> I'm trying to run the vino server, but I get this message: (vino-server:6094): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:02] <c172> is it possible to start it from the command line?
[05:02] <simpkins> ------> I installed the latest version of flash on firefox with the package manager, when i got to a page that has flash the part that is suppose to be a flash movie just stays white, i can right click on it and have the flash settings but the movie does not play ?????? Im running dapper with good  computer specs
[05:02] <maybelle_> coz we want to browse folders and files in the network
[05:02] <troytroy> ompaul, hmm u want me to paste it here
[05:02] <reza> neutrinomass: damn it works ! thank you
[05:02] <mgorbach> so gentoo is the exception? i guess because it's compiled
[05:02] <maybelle_> mr nightcoder are u stil der?
[05:02] <mgorbach> where is a good source for .debs?
[05:02] <nightcoder> maybelle: yes
[05:02] <gnomefreak> simpkins: whats teh URL?
[05:02] <reza> nightcoder: thank you bro it is working now
[05:03] <simpkins> gnomefreak: Ive tried multiple flash sites
[05:03] <joaquinz> hi
[05:03] <thoreauputic> !tell mgorbach about repos
[05:03] <ompaul> troytroy, only the ip its self or paste it to me
[05:03] <nightcoder> maybelle: can you look into another computer ? I need some more info
[05:03] <zx80user> I am having serious problems with nvidia-glx, worked fine with Breezy but now locks randomly under Dapper - I've seen some messages suggesting most recent driver does this, anybody care to comment?
[05:03] <nightcoder> reza: :)
[05:03] <ynef> simpkins: do you have a 64 bit processor?
[05:03] <ompaul> troytroy, or msg it
[05:03] <gnomefreak> simpkins: if you give me one we can see if its flash the site or your flash
[05:03] <troytroy> ompaul, 80.87.88.48.
[05:03] <simpkins> ynef: no
[05:03] <ziga_> thank you for the last answer, now next question : I have network printer on Host 192.168.1.3 , which is running under Windows. However, that printer doesn't seem to work if I try to print on Ubuntu. The printer is HP 990cxi, but in Ubuntu i can only chooose HP 990c(no option for cxi), and it doesnt seem to work.
[05:03] <joaquinz> i've trouble with XGL and ubuntu daper 6.06
[05:03] <neutrinomass> reza: You're welcome :)
[05:03] <ynef> simpkins: then that's not it... :)
[05:03] <c172> and here I thought linux was supposed to be good for remote administration
[05:03] <gnomefreak> simpkins: ppc?
[05:03] <joaquinz> i think i've done everything i needed to get it work
[05:03] <thoreauputic> c172: it is
[05:04] <simpkins> gnomefreak: ppc ?
[05:04] <mo0se> is there a way to run windows while running ubuntu when i already have it installed on another partition?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> mac
[05:04] <maybelle_> nightcoder
[05:04] <maybelle_> my brother is asking
[05:04] <Bizzeh> mo0se: vmware
[05:04] <maybelle_> ei nightcoder my brother is asking do we nid to setup a host and a client? nightcoder
[05:04] <c172> thoreauputic, that's what I thought until the vnc server didn't come up after an upgrade...
[05:04] <nightcoder> maybelle: ?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> simpkins: its not a mac right?
[05:04] <c172> now i just can't get it running
[05:04] <maybelle_> coz we want to browse folders and files in the network
[05:04] <mo0se> bizzeh: vmware or vmplayer?
[05:04] <paolo_> Hi guys! After upgrading to dapper, ubuntu doesn't see a espon usb printer any more. Any idea?
[05:04] <simpkins> gnomefreak: no its pc
[05:04] <gnomefreak> good
[05:04] <joaquinz> but now gdm (Xgl) stays frozen at the start up... loading and loading and loading
[05:04] <richiefrich> mo0se qemu
[05:04] <joaquinz> but never ends
[05:04] <joaquinz> any idea??
[05:04] <neutrinomass> Does anybody have an alcatel speedtouch modem ?
[05:04] <thoreauputic> c172: in gnome t should start by default I think
[05:04] <gnomefreak> ok simpkins let me see one of the sites in question
[05:04] <mo0se> richiefrich: what's qemu?
[05:04] <nightcoder> maybelle: I dont understand
[05:04] <avis> joaquinz, read this url http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[05:05] <reza> neutrinomass: how can i set it in startup?
[05:05] <joaquinz> avis thx i'll try
[05:05] <richiefrich> mo0se same as vmware
[05:05] <simpkins> gnomefreak: okay sec
[05:05] <c172> I managed to find the configuration file to re-enable the automatic login, and I can connect to vnc... but it just shows a blank screen
[05:05] <nightcoder> maybelle: Can you see another computer configuration on network ?
[05:05] <ben> Hey, my im trying to boot off a CD but grub won't let me, and I can't even get into bios before grub loads...how can I fix this?
[05:05] <c172> does upgrading to 6.06 do anything to the user configuration files?
[05:05] <neutrinomass> reza: I'm not sure about that part... I don't use my NIC anyway .... gimme a sec please
[05:05] <richiefrich> mo0se app-emulation/qemu (): qemu emulator and abi wrapper meta ebuild
[05:05] <maybelle_> my brother is asking if we nid a computer host and a client
[05:05] <ziga_> Under Network printer i have options like Windows Printer(SMB), Unix printer, HP Jet Direct, which one do i choose?
[05:05] <simpkins> gnomefreak: http://www.allthingschrist.org/test/chapter1.html
[05:05] <avis> c172 thats the last thing it would damage
[05:05] <maybelle_> ok
[05:05] <nightcoder> maybelle: it will depend on your network scope
[05:06] <mo0se> i think i'll try vmware.
[05:06] <c172> well unless the vnc isn't working, it looks like that user won't login to an actual desktop anymore
[05:06] <avis> simpkins, offtopic, sorry.
[05:06] <mo0se> is there a difference between vmware and vmplayer?
[05:06] <nightcoder> maybelle: your computer is a server ? Its sharing internet or something like that ?
[05:06] <marcel__> anyone got xgl working on dapper?
[05:06] <joaquinz> avis: does it work for ati cards too??
[05:06] <gnomefreak> simpkins: the white part stays white huh?
[05:06] <avis> joaquinz, yeppers
[05:06] <ynef> mo0se: yeah, one's free -- the other one's vmplayer ;)
[05:06] <ynef> mo0se: uh, other way around... :)
[05:06] <avis> joaquinz, but not as easy
[05:06] <mattikoo> How can I repair xfs filesystem by live cd
[05:06] <simpkins> gnomefreak: yea
[05:07] <mo0se> ynef: you just confused me. hahaha.
[05:07] <nightcoder> maybelle: can you look in another computer and tell me whats ip address, network mask and gateway are it using ?
[05:07] <ubuntu> hey
[05:07] <gnomefreak> simpkins: thats not you thats the site
[05:07] <kane77> HI...
[05:07] <ynef> mo0se: vmware = expensive, vmplayer = free :)
[05:07] <mgorbach> i've also got another problem ... my gui is running extremely slow
[05:07] <richiefrich> mattikoo repair.. as in ?  fsck.xfs
[05:07] <neutrinomass> reza:  I think you have to add 'tulip' in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, but I'm not sure ...
[05:07] <ben> So, is there any way I can get into my bios with grub booting up instantly?
[05:07] <mgorbach> iv got an nvidia 6600 i think here
[05:07] <ynef> kane77: sup?
[05:07] <simpkins> gnomefreak: it works on windows tho
[05:07] <maybelle_> no its not a server
[05:07] <Ng> !tell mgorbach about nvidia
[05:07] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[05:07] <c172> is there some kind of vnc server that doesn't have to be run for a user that's already logged in, or is that too much to hope for?
[05:07] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[05:07] <exhale> !gnome
[05:07] <richiefrich> DShepherd morning good sir
[05:07] <Bezzer> thanks for the help ynef, working nicely now
[05:07] <gnomefreak> simpkins: it might not be flash than let me look at source see what it is
[05:07] <mo0se> does xgl work with intel onboard graphics cards?
[05:07] <joaquinz> avis: do you know some tutorial to ati cards??
[05:08] <ynef> Bezzer: great to hear
[05:08] <mo0se> heheh. 'cause that's all i got.
[05:08] <nightcoder> maybelle: read last msg ... I need some info from another computer in you network
[05:08] <maybelle_> all of our pc's are not connected with each oder
[05:08] <Ng> c172: Xvnc works like a regular X server, but only talks to vnc, so you can run it without it displaying anything on a monitor, if that's what you mean?
[05:08] <simpkins> gnomefreak:its flash cause i made it lol
[05:08] <reza> neutrinomass: never mind it is working ! 2 days i was searching for a solution thx again ! :D
[05:08] <rdouglass> hi world. Anybody have some time to help me with my wifi on Dapper? (perhaps private channel to minimize chatter?)
[05:08] <marcel__> mattikoo: chkfs.xfs?
[05:08] <DShepherd> richiefrich: goodmorning to you too :) whats' up?
[05:08] <mattikoo> richiefrich: After my son reset computer in linux it halt
[05:08] <Codenut>  On my system, I can't become su or root, how so I do that?
[05:08] <c172> ng, does that take a lot of configuration?
[05:08] <Hobbsee> !tell Codenut about sudo
[05:08] <gnomefreak> simpkins: my flash i know works as of 3am this morning
[05:08] <Ng> c172: nope :)
[05:08] <richiefrich> DShepherd not much man...  just chillin
[05:08] <Intangir> hey guys, i have multiple screens, and firefox
[05:08] <maybelle_> all of my computer dont have any ipp submask and gateway
[05:08] <pradeep> Codenut, sudo so
[05:08] <marcel__> Codenut: su is not a user, su changes to a user
[05:08] <c172> it's probably not installed anyways, and I don't really have access to the package manager...
[05:08] <maybelle_> all of my computer dont have any ipp submask and gateway
[05:08] <Intangir> i can only run firefox on 1 screen though
[05:08] <nightcoder> maybelle: but can you look in its network configuration ?
[05:08] <mattikoo> marcel__: I try
[05:08] <pradeep> Codenut, sudo su
[05:09] <kane77> I played a bit with the boot... isn't there anything realy graphical...(? (I've seen a boot loader that looked nice on my friends computer... but I don't know wether it was lilo or grub...)
[05:09] <maybelle_> yes
[05:09] <Intangir> if i try to run it in 2 i.. geez this channel is crazy busy.
[05:09] <DShepherd> richiefrich: kool
[05:09] <ben> i wanna get in my bios /cry
[05:09] <maybelle_> were looking at it
[05:09] <Intangir> screw it.
[05:09] <thoreauputic> maybelle_: no need to repeat
[05:09] <mr_hus> what are the video specs needed for xgl to run smoothly? Last time I tried it, window movements seemed to glitch at the end of the movement. I have an nvidia card... Geforce4 Ti 4200...
[05:09] <mnk> hello all. i am trying to use my HP LaserJet 1000 usb printer with ubuntu but the native drivers don't work. I also tried the hacks online and again they didn't work. The printer gets recognised [i can even print it from vmware windows guest]  but when i try to print under linux, it just hangs - it says it is printing, but nothing. no light flashing on printer, nothing. PLEASE help me someone as I have my final year project to do. Thanks!
[05:09] <maybelle_> all our pc's are have internet
[05:09] <gnomefreak> simpkins: it looks like it uses flasha nd shockwave
[05:09] <maybelle_> but they dont have anyconnection with each pc
[05:09] <nightcoder> maybelle: your network use DHCP ...
[05:09] <c172> I just don't understand how things can go wrong like this... I didn't really change the default configurations at all
[05:09] <avis> mr_hus, that will do fine
[05:09] <maybelle_> yes
[05:09] <ubuntu> installed 6.06 nio probs very please only thin thing is I had a look at gparted to create a new partition and sine i only have the one partition at the moment  gparted says 35 gigs in toal of which 33 gigs is used this is not the case as only 5 gigs were used before 6.06 install
[05:09] <richiefrich> mattikoo then run..  fsck.xfs /dev/XXX     -->  XXX being hdX#  or sdX#
[05:09] <simpkins> gnomefreak: does shockwave work on ubuntu i think i couldent get that to work last time lol
[05:09] <neutrinomass> reza: I know how you feel. I had just bought a router + nic combination and didn't know what was wrong. I know 0 of networking (0 though) so it was *painful* :)
[05:09] <kane77> and... my TNT2 doesn't work even with the legacy drivers...
[05:09] <Codenut> ttfn
[05:09] <marcel__> mnk: did you set it up in cups? and does a test page print?
[05:09] <Codenut> bye gang!
[05:09] <ynef> kane77: sure, grub can use images and stuff... look it up on the internet
[05:09] <maybelle_> all our computer are in DHCP mode
[05:10] <Codenut> exit
[05:10] <Kalkran> There are so many people talkin in here.. :o
[05:10] <ziga_> Can someone please tell me how to setup a network printer, which is running through windows on Ubuntu?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> simpkins: thats kind of iffy but heres the site for you
[05:10] <mnk> marcel__: yes i did
[05:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell simpkins -about restricted
[05:10] <maybelle_> and i cant even access my other computer
[05:10] <marcel__> mnk: does the test page print?
[05:10] <simpkins> gnomefreak: thanks
[05:10] <maybelle_> but all of them have internet connections
[05:10] <gnomefreak> simpkins: yw
[05:10] <mr_hus> avis: any idea why it was glitching then? i've seen videos of it running pretty smootly... i know there are still issues tho
[05:10] <marcel__> mnk: what driver did you choose for the printer
[05:10] <tRSS> quick question: after I upgraded from breezy to dapper, i am getting this and few more errors when I login to bash: "unknown items QUOTAS_ENAB (notify administrator)". so how can I fix this?
[05:10] <richiefrich> DShepherd i dont have many problems... i think im as tweaked as i can get.. :)  im just trying to get lighter... like getting ride of gnome totally :)
[05:10] <mnk> marcel__: the foo thingy one
[05:10] <rdouglass> ubotu tell rdouglass about wifi
[05:10] <nightcoder> maybelle: are you trying to setup a local network 'from scratch' or only trying to put your computer into network
[05:11] <maybelle_> from scratch...
[05:11] <CuriousCat> hello! Would anyone know about kernel issues with the IBM X30?
[05:11] <nightcoder> maybelle: System -> Admin -> Network
[05:11] <DShepherd> richiefrich: k
[05:11] <marcel__> mnk: you need to install better drivers, like foomatic cups , or something like ppd
[05:11] <nightcoder> maybelle: Click your network interface
[05:11] <maybelle_> then
[05:11] <c172> Ng, what package do I have to install for xvnc?
[05:11] <neutrinomass> maybelle_: You don't by any chance have a Davicom NIC as well right ? :)
[05:11] <thoreauputic> tRSS: look in /etc/logins.def
[05:11] <DShepherd> richiefrich: i'll be back soon
[05:11] <marcel__> mnk: also make sure what driver you have choosen, foo is not a driver
[05:11] <maybelle_> nah
[05:11] <mnk> marcel__: foo2zjs
[05:11] <maybelle_> click network interface
[05:11] <CuriousCat> I'm getting IRQ 15 errors on the said laptop.
[05:11] <nightcoder> maybelle: click properties
[05:12] <avis> there are some options you can change in the control panel for i forget what its called.   let me show you another page but be careful what you do and whos directions you follow.  http://www.madman2k.net/?module=article&id=19#p2
[05:12] <richiefrich> DShepherd ok and i must invite u
[05:12] <maybelle_> im looking at my network settings now
[05:12] <mnk> marcel__: what's foomatic cups?
[05:12] <marcel__> mnk: sudo apt-get install foomatic-filters-ppds
[05:12] <Ng> c172: just vncserver I believe
[05:12] <nightcoder> maybelle: change its configuration to 'DHCP'
[05:12] <CuriousCat> I'm getting IRQ 15 errors on the said laptop. Would like to know if there's a workaround for it.
[05:12] <tRSS> thoreauputic: why has the upgrade done to cause this error? i would appreciate your help.
[05:12] <ubuntu> is there another program other than the gparted GUI on which i can check my disk size gparted is giving misleading information
[05:12] <rdouglass> $50 in Amazon gifts if someone can help me with wifi (Dapper) - open a private channel
[05:12] <maybelle_> configuration setting is now dhcp
[05:12] <mnk> marcel__: foomatic-filters-ppds is already the newest version.
[05:12] <maybelle_> ip subnet gateway all blank
[05:12] <thoreauputic> tRSS: you will probably find a debconf file there with the new config ( something like /etc/login.defs.debconf
[05:12] <marcel__> mnk: drivers for printers
[05:12] <avis> qtparted
[05:12] <ben> So, is there any way I can get into my bios with grub booting up instantly?
[05:12] <marcel__> mnk: modify printer and choose a different driver
[05:12] <paolo_> guys, after upgrading to dapper the usb printer isn't seen by gnome-cups-manager. Any hint?
[05:12] <thoreauputic> tRSS: just move that file in place of the old one
[05:13] <c172> I don't think I have vncserver, I just had a regular 5.10 install
[05:13] <c172> I think it was using 'vino'
[05:13] <mnk> marcel__: tried that - i tried all the drivers; same issue
[05:13] <marcel__> paolo_: is the printer on?
[05:13] <maybelle_> nightcoder?
[05:13] <kane77> anyone uses grub2?? Is it realy safe to install?? (last thing I need is to mess up my MBR)...
[05:13] <aLPHa_LeaK> ben: normally the delete key works for that
[05:13] <c172> is xvnc in the regular repositories, or do i need to add another one?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> tRSS: you probably answered a config question on it and said to keep your settings
[05:13] <tRSS> thoreauputic: and where is the old one?
[05:13] <ubuntu> COMMAND LINE
[05:13] <nightcoder> maybelle: yes
[05:13] <avis> deka vino vasos !
[05:13] <neutrinomass> Anybody with an alcatel speedtouch modem here ?
[05:13] <mgorbach> thanks for your help guys ... video performance is much nicer now
[05:13] <marcel__> mnk: can you not choose hp laserjet driver? that should work, and do you hae the usb connection choosen?
[05:13] <ben> aLPHa_LeaK, it doesnt .... it shows the intel logo and goes immediately to grub, i hit delete anyway and no bios
[05:13] <nightcoder> maybelle: click ok
[05:13] <thoreauputic> tRSS: no, the old one is /etc/login.defs
[05:13] <mgorbach> can someone point me to the best guide to follow for XGL on the LTS ubuntu release?
[05:13] <mnk> marcel__: btw thanks for ur help - i appreciate it. i'm in a bit of a situation here!
[05:13] <c172> avis, I don't like it either but it's what comes with ubuntu
[05:13] <thomaslai> hello
[05:13] <Ng> c172: vino is just the one that lets you export your current login. vncserver is in universe
[05:14] <ben> So I cant make it boot off CDs first and i have to boot off a cd :/
[05:14] <CuriousCat> Oh, sorry... i meant IRQ 15 errors on the IBM Thinkpad R30 laptop. Any workaround for this?
[05:14] <marcel__> mnk
[05:14] <c172> so... i would have to add sources?
[05:14] <thoreauputic> tRSS: the new one is the one that debconf backed up in case of need
[05:14] <collusion> hello all
[05:14] <mgorbach> iv found many forums but im not sure if they are outdated?
[05:14] <nightcoder> maybelle: internet is working now ?
[05:14] <thomaslai> XMMS cannot play mp3
[05:14] <simpkins> so anyone know of a way to use Shockwave without using WINE with windows version of firefox lol ????
[05:14] <c172> this is when the package manager would come in handy
[05:14] <paolo_> marcel__, yes, and lsusb gives a "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer". However, gnome-cups-manager doesn't detect it
[05:14] <thomaslai> but my mplayer can
[05:14] <ubuntu> agorbach; howtoforge.com
[05:14] <Ng> c172: yep, but you can do it all from a terminal. how come you don't have a package manager though?
[05:14] <mwosh> hey all.. just wondering if someone could help...
[05:14] <c172> because I can't log in with vnc
[05:14] <mnk> marcel__: i chose hp lj 1000 printer
[05:14] <mwosh> any way to install dapper without the live cd?
[05:14] <maybelle_> yes
[05:14] <mwosh> just a direct install?
[05:14] <marcel__> mnk: good, with usb connection?
[05:14] <CrippsFX> is there a command line applet for the gnome taskbar (FC has one ... I was wondering where I could get one for dapper)
[05:14] <maybelle_> all of my pc's have internet connections
[05:14] <collusion> i'm using a network cups server that has dozens of printers on it (for the whole building) but I only care about seeing icons for the ones that are on my floor in gnome-cups-icon; is this possible?
[05:15] <marcel__> paolo_: maybe you need to install more ppd drivers
[05:15] <thoreauputic> tRSS: try  ls -l /etc/login.def*
[05:15] <maybelle_> what we want is on how 2 access/share pc 2 pc ...
[05:15] <thomaslai> anyone can help me here - XMMS cannot playback mp3 files but mplayer can
[05:15] <paolo_> marcel__, how? what packages=
[05:15] <paolo_> marcel__, how? what packages=?
[05:15] <mgorbach> can someone point me to the best guide to follow for XGL on the LTS ubuntu release?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> tRSS: you should see two files
[05:15] <marcel__> paolo_: apt-cache search cups ppd
[05:15] <mnk> marcel__:  yes i have usb chosen - but same problem
[05:15] <nightcoder> maybelle: after last change, your computer (ubuntu) is connected to the internet ?
[05:15] <marcel__> mnk: does the test page print?
[05:15] <ben> Is there a way to get grub to boot fro ma CD so i dont need to worry why its not even letting me in bios
[05:16] <ben> im starting to hat grub
[05:16] <ben> *hate
[05:16] <maybelle_> yes yes :D
[05:16] <c172> I guess the only remote administration that will fix this is bringing in a keyboard and monitor from a remote location
[05:16] <thoreauputic> tRSS: the one with the extra suffix needs to be renamed to /etc/login.defs
[05:16] <Subhuman> ben, grub cannot lock u out of the bios.
[05:16] <maybelle_> the internet now is working fine
[05:16] <mnk> marcel__: no it doesn't
[05:16] <nightw> hi
[05:16] <marcel__> mnk: what error?
[05:16] <Ng> c172: you can do it fine from a console/ssh
[05:16] <nightcoder> maybelle: good.
[05:16] <Subhuman> ben, nothing but the bios can do that.
[05:16] <maybelle_> what we want now is how 2 share pc 2 pc
[05:16] <thoreauputic> tRSS: got it ?
[05:16] <maybelle_> what should we do mr nightcoder
[05:16] <ben> Subhuman what cna I do then ?  Grub pops up before anything else and i never have an option to get in bios
[05:16] <paolo_> Marcel: $ dpkg -l|grep ppd
[05:16] <paolo_> ii  foomatic-filters-ppds     20050913-1
[05:16] <paolo_> ii  hplip-ppds             0.9.5-2ubuntu2
[05:16] <marcel__> mnk: is the printer connected and on? and it is a supported device via cups? linuxprinting.org?
[05:16] <mnk> marcel__: no error on the gui - it just says: printing: job-prining. but nothing comes out of the printer
[05:17] <nightcoder> maybelle: tell me about your 'other' computer
[05:17] <c172> only after taking a couple of hours to learn how to do something that should take 5 minutes
[05:17] <nightw> Could anybody help? Here is the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1096974#post1096974
[05:17] <marcel__> paolo_: install the foomatic-filters-ppd
[05:17] <Ng> c172: take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 - that's the complete list of breezy package sources. make your /etc/apt/sources.list file look like that and do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vncserver". done.
[05:17] <paolo_> marcel__, it is installed!
[05:17] <maybelle_> the other computer also has an internet connction
[05:17] <maybelle_> so do i
[05:17] <mnk> marcel__: in /var/log/messages i get: drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: nonzero read/write bulk status received: -32
[05:17] <marcel__> mnk: maybe you need to reset the printer and restart the cups server /etc/init.d/cups restart
[05:17] <ubuntu> whats the command line in parted to check partition size?
[05:17] <c172> since I'm using 6.06 do I just change everything to "dapper"?
[05:17] <nightcoder> maybelle: it is a ubuntu (linux) or windows machine ?
[05:17] <maybelle_> but i cannot access his computer
[05:18] <Ng> c172: ah sorry, I thought you were using 5.10. The list for dapper is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[05:18] <marcel__> paolo_: try adding the printer to cups with cups-printer-manager
[05:18] <Subhuman> ben, thats very odd, try holding DEL or w.e ure bios button is while u power on, the system shoukd ALWAYS start with a POST , so u must have some time.
[05:18] <maybelle_> its ubuntu 5.10
[05:18] <mnk> marcel__: : and in the cups error log: CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized - and:  [Job 34]  No %%BoundingBox: comment in header!
[05:18] <ben> Subhuman,  I agree its wierd, I coulda sworn it was delete and i tried that
[05:18] <c172> if I hadn't tried to upgrade things would still be working... at least until I did something else that wasn't approved
[05:18] <mnk> marcel__: yes i did restart cups too
[05:18] <nightcoder> maybelle: that other computer uses DHCP too, right ?
[05:18] <Bladedge> !codecs
[05:19] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[05:19] <Bladedge> !easysource
[05:19] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:19] <maybelle_> yes mr nightcoder all our pc are dhcp connection
[05:19] <Subhuman> ben, it could be you have "quick boot" or something like that enabled.
[05:19] <avis> i didn't believe there was plf for dapper ?
[05:19] <marcel__> mnk: try google and ubuntu cups
[05:19] <marcel__> mnk: i dont have any ideas left
[05:19] <Subhuman> ben, you could just take the CMOS battery out, that would reset the bios to factory default though, should fix it.
[05:19] <atongen> does anybody know where I can find detailed technical information on the certified lamp stack installed with the dapper server installer?
[05:20] <ben> Subhuman, I was thinking of that, im on a laptop though
[05:20] <nightcoder> maybelle: all PCs are connected to a HUB/SWITCH ?
[05:20] <avis> ben, there should be a jumper near your cmos to reset it
[05:20] <thoreauputic> avis: w32codecs is just a bundle of codecs - it installs in the same place and works fine
[05:20] <mnk> marcel__: loads of ppl have this problem on google - but the only solution given doesn't work for me [and others] . the printer works in windows, so i really don't know what the problem is
[05:20] <ben> avis -- i know, laptop though
[05:20] <avis> thank you
[05:20] <maybelle_> all pc's are connected to a switch
[05:20] <Subhuman> ben, its still possible on some laptops, or they have a reset switch/jumper.
[05:20] <avis> laptop.  i see.  whats keeping you from going into the bios and resetting to factory defaults ?
[05:20] <nightcoder> maybelle: your network is 'server-based' ? Have you a machine acting as a server to you network ?
[05:20] <dr_willis> Odd.. some how Ubuntu/cups is saying I got a printer on each of my parrallel ports.. and i dont even have parrallel ports (i think)
[05:20] <dr_willis> :P
[05:20] <mnk> marcel__: and the printer even works in vmware - windows guest - under linux!
[05:20] <maybelle_> none of them are working as a server
[05:20] <Subhuman> dr_willis, mine does the same :P
[05:21] <paolo_> marcel__, cups-printer-manager? I have gnome-cups-manager, that doesn't see the printer
[05:21] <maybelle_> and we are really starting from scratch :((
[05:21] <nightcoder> maybelle: this switch is connected to a DSL modem or something like that ?
[05:21] <c172> well, xvnc doesn't want to start either
[05:21] <maybelle_> yes we are connected to a dsl modem
[05:21] <dr_willis> Subhuman:  been having all sorts of printing issues with Dapper since it has been released.. had no issues in the beta. :()
[05:21] <Subhuman> avis, the lappy goes straight to GRUB, no POST at all.
[05:21] <mgorbach228> how do i make my ubuntu detect the dual core processors? i think i need to get an SMP kernel?
[05:21] <stbrenner> my video is messed up.  anytime i get a .mpg or .wmv video to play...it will open, however it's really bright...almost "whited" out i guess you could say.  help?
[05:21] <maybelle_> we have 10 pc's all connected to a switch
[05:22] <ubuntu> d
[05:22] <ubuntu> hi
[05:22] <maybelle_> that is connectd to a dsl modem
[05:22] <Subhuman> dr_willis, my printing has been fine apart from GIMP, but thats always been shit with my printer.
[05:22] <gnomefreak> stbrenner: install the w32codecs
[05:22] <thoreauputic> hi ubuntu :)
[05:22] <maybelle_> all our individuals pcs
[05:22] <nightcoder> maybelle: we will make some changes in your network
[05:22] <maybelle_> have no host or client
[05:22] <atongen> mgorbach228 -- sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[05:22] <maybelle_> ok ok
[05:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell stbrenner -about restricted
[05:22] <maybelle_> what should we do night
[05:22] <ubuntu> what is the command line in parted to check partition size
[05:22] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: imaginative nick you have there ;-)
[05:22] <stbrenner> hmm
[05:22] <Hobbsee> ubuntu: dh -h
[05:22] <stbrenner> apt-get install w32codecs won't work for me
[05:22] <Hobbsee> ubuntu: df -h
[05:22] <nightcoder> maybelle: that 2 computers are the only you need to comunicate ?
[05:22] <maybelle_> night can u pm me?
[05:22] <Doomhammer> what was the command to select alternatives again ? :S
[05:22] <stbrenner> and i thought the repository was down
[05:22] <Hobbsee> !tell stbrenner about restricted
[05:23] <gnomefreak> stbrenner: read the link ubotu pmed you with
[05:23] <dr_willis> Subhuman:  the thing keeps losein g the printer. :(
[05:23] <marcel__> paolo_: i ment the gnome cups manager
[05:23] <avis> you have to wget win32codecs from a server
[05:23] <ubuntu> it came with the the live CD!
[05:23] <avis> then install
[05:23] <patrick_> hey, how do you get programs to start when you log in?
[05:23] <stbrenner> argh, i've done so many times :)
[05:23] <c172> can xvnc run at the same time as gdm?
[05:23] <maybelle_> no we nid the 10 computers to access each other
[05:23] <trynemjoel> how do i install Java's .bin package from their homepage?
[05:23] <mo0se> how do i uninstall the grub bootloader?
[05:23] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: yeah I know
[05:23] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:23] <mo0se> !grub
[05:23] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:23] <maybelle_> this is a internet cafe nightcoder
[05:23] <stbrenner> once more i suppose
[05:23] <marcel__> paolo_: are you useng dapper?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> Doomhammer: depends on what you are attemting to configure
[05:23] <avis> trynemjoel, its in the wiki
[05:23] <ubuntu> BUT the doamin name is ok
[05:23] <c172> I didn't think it was that hard to make software that works
[05:23] <Doomhammer> gnomefreak: gcc
[05:23] <gnomefreak> stgraber: its not apt-get its wget to get the w32codecs
[05:23] <beerockxs> Anyone know why sometimes, the buttons in gnome appear in a different color until i mouse-over them?
[05:23] <nightcoder> maybelle: good ... we will setup on of your machines to act like a server
[05:23] <paolo_>  marcel__ the problem has arised after upgrading to dapper
[05:24] <maybelle_> ok
[05:24] <avis> xvnc should be a system service
[05:24] <maybelle_> what should i do
[05:24] <maybelle_> ?
[05:24] <thoreauputic> c172: both vino and xvncserver ( and indeed freenx) work just fine here...
[05:24] <gnomefreak> Doomhammer: i think thats an exportCC-3.4 or whatever
[05:24] <nightcoder> maybelle: have you a machine with 2 ethernet cards ?
[05:24] <c172> I really just need it this one time to get the regular vnc service working, but I'll see if there's an init script
[05:24] <thoreauputic> xtightvnc actually
[05:24] <simpkins> ----> Has anyone got shockwave to work ????? with the restricted section instructtions ????????????????? <-------------
[05:24] <mgorbach228> atongen, will grub be updated automatically?
[05:24] <c172> apparently not
[05:24] <mnk> hello all. i am trying to use my HP LaserJet 1000 usb printer with ubuntu but the native drivers don't work. I also tried the hacks online and again they didn't work. The printer gets recognised [i can even print it from vmware windows guest]  but when i try to print under linux, it just hangs - it says it is printing, but nothing. no light flashing on printer, nothing. PLEASE help me someone as I have my final year project to do. Thanks!
[05:24] <Doomhammer> gnomefreak: nah that command isn't found :S
[05:24] <atongen> yes, it should be.
[05:24] <ubuntu> thoreauputic : parted command line any offers?
[05:24] <thoreauputic> simpkins: lose the ??? please
[05:24] <maybelle_> no
[05:25] <Doomhammer> gnomefreak: couldn't i just remove the symlink in /usr/bin and poitn it to where i want ?
[05:25] <maybelle_> we are just using 1 lan card connected to the switch using a UTP cable
[05:25] <thoreauputic> simpkins: and the other gratuitous spam
[05:25] <avis> mnk, its possible vmware is the culprit
[05:25] <gnomefreak> Doomhammer: theres an export command for it i just cant rememeber exact command
[05:25] <gnomefreak> Doomhammer: you could try
[05:25] <nightcoder> maybelle: ... all you machines are ubuntu (linux) ?
[05:25] <dr_willis> mnk:  ive been having some printing issues as well..  check your cups web interface perhaps it will mention an error. ( http://localhost:631 )
[05:25] <mnk> avis: it wasn't working b4 vmware
[05:25] <maybelle_> yes
[05:25] <atongen> as long as you haven't manually edited your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:25] <maybelle_> all of them are ubuntu 5.10
[05:25] <nightcoder> maybelle: good
[05:25] <maybelle_> whats next
[05:26] <trynemjoel> the wiki appears to show no knowtion of .bin according to the searchengine
[05:26] <avis> mnk, google is your best friend then
[05:26] <Flame> hi
[05:26] <c172> how can xvnc run as a system service when it has no init script?
[05:26] <dr_willis> trynemjoel:  huh?
[05:26] <Doomhammer> gnomefreak: yep that apperas to have worked
[05:26] <nightcoder> maybelle: we will setup some 'virtual' ips in your network
[05:26] <gnomefreak> k
[05:26] <patrick_> start up programs?
[05:26] <maybelle_> ok
[05:26] <maybelle_> got that
[05:26] <dr_willis> c172:  i have my vncserver set up to run as a service through inetd
[05:26] <nightcoder> maybelle: please type on ther terminal
[05:26] <maybelle_> whats next
[05:26] <avis> even if it isn't just run it if its a server and you can kill it when its done
[05:26] <maybelle_> what should i type
[05:27] <nightcoder> maybelle: sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[05:27] <nightcoder> now, in another computer, type:
[05:27] <nightcoder> maybelle: sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[05:27] <maybelle_> ok
[05:27] <gnomefreak> simpkins: you have to install wine moxplugger and windows version of ff  if you ask me its not worth the trouble
[05:27] <mnk> dr_willis: what would the user/pass be for cups?
[05:27] <Rubin> anyone know how i can completely disable the 'windows' key?
[05:28] <avis> mozplugger
[05:28] <nightcoder> maybelle: now, on the first computer, type
[05:28] <Rubin> i keep hitting it by accedent
[05:28] <gnomefreak> that too ty
[05:28] <nightcoder> maybelle: ping 192.168.0.3
[05:28] <thomas__> hi
[05:28] <nightcoder> maybelle: 192.168.0.3 answer ?
[05:28] <tRSS> thoreauputic: thanks, it worked! really appreciate your help
[05:28] <thomas__> I need some help, please
[05:28] <TiG4> thomas__: what can I help you with?
[05:28] <stbrenner> i tried installing w32codecs but the video is still way too bright to see anything
[05:28] <Frogzoo> anyone get the acrobat plugin for firefox working on dapper? (i get error loading ewh.dll plugin)
[05:28] <georg> can someone help me with installing my wlan adapter? i have a samsung p28 with an agere mini pci card. i tried ndiswrapper with the drivers from the agere site, but that did not work.
[05:29] <stbrenner> i can make it out but it's definately messed up
[05:29] <dr_willis> mnk: - hmm - i had mine set to root :) its mentioned in the wiki/forums a tweak ya need to do to get cups working fully with the web interface.. cant even look at the printer/settings eh?
[05:29] <c172> this isn't doing much...
[05:29] <thomas__> I have a problem whith ubuntu tapper
[05:29] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: from acroread?
[05:29] <indrop> Bonjour ?
[05:29] <maybelle_> its running
[05:29] <thoreauputic> tRSS: no problem - I did the same thing as you on the upgrade - I tried to keep my old config with the result you described
[05:29] <TiG4> thomas__: what seems to be the problem
[05:29] <c172> is the AutomaticLogin option in gdm.conf enough to make an automatic login, or do i have to change something somewhere else?
[05:29] <atongen> anyone know where I can find specific information about the certified dapper lamp stack?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> tRSS: evidently the login defs have changed
[05:29] <nightcoder> maybelle: hit 'Ctrl + C'
[05:29] <avis> indrop, english only, sorry.
[05:29] <mgorbach> can someone help? ubuntu is still not detected my dual core 4800+ as two processors
[05:29] <thomas__> the wify work well with breezy but not with tapper ?
[05:29] <mgorbach> cat /proc/cpuinfo shows one
[05:29] <maybelle_> then
[05:29] <indrop> Please, where is the french chat on irc plz ?
[05:29] <c172> for that matter, what configuration file starts vino when a user logs in?
[05:29] <iiiears> simpkins - The truelyparanoid among us. (Suddenly looks uneasy and a little embarassed.) Run network applications using qemu or vmware. - isolating the internet from the base Operating System. - lol
[05:29] <dura> Anyone know where I can find the repository addresses for sources.list so I can dist-upgrade to 6.06?
[05:30] <ompaul> c172, sysetm perferences sessions is the way to do that
[05:30] <gnomefreak> indrop: #ubuntu-fr
[05:30] <nightcoder> maybelle: tell me if your ping command works ...
[05:30] <indrop> thx
[05:30] <c172> ompaul, you mean in gnome?
[05:30] <maybelle_> yup working properly
[05:30] <maybelle_> :D
[05:30] <ompaul> c172, yes
[05:30] <maybelle_> then
[05:30] <c172> I'm trying to get there
[05:30] <TiG4> thomas__: PM me please. I will try to hel
[05:30] <nightcoder> maybelle: good, very good
[05:30] <maybelle_> waaaaaaa
[05:30] <maybelle_> im not a dog
[05:30] <maybelle_> sob
[05:30] <mgorbach> anyone?
[05:30] <avis> mgorbach, are you using the latest bios for motherboard ?
[05:30] <Boglizk> How do i use the "Text Manipulation" in xScreenSaver?
[05:30] <maybelle_> but thanks :D
[05:30] <nightcoder> maybelle: on each machine you will type the following command
[05:30] <maybelle_> what should we do next
[05:30] <maybelle_> ok
[05:30] <pradeep> omg. ... maybelle_ still here :-/
[05:30] <mgorbach> yes i believe so ...
[05:30] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: yes, from acroread...
[05:30] <ompaul> c172, forghet that - I was doing something else -- it is really
[05:30] <c172> I did that already, but after the upgrade it isn't working... now I need to check if it's still enabled
[05:31] <avis> mgorbach, also can you uname -a to verify you are using  a smp kernel
[05:31] <maybelle_> lolz
[05:31] <kane77> dura, just change all occurences of "breezy" to "dapper" then run "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:31] <iiiears> simpkens - give qemu or vmware's browser appliance a try. (both are free. though vmware is a bit easier to use.)
[05:31] <samu2> w00t, my wav sound was just turned down really low in alsamixer
[05:31] <nightcoder> maybelle: sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.X netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[05:31] <mgorbach> Linux montecarlo 2.6.15-23-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 23 14:03:07 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/L
[05:31] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: the thing that bothers me about that is dll's shouldnt have a thing to do with pdf
[05:31] <mnk> dr_willis: i can browse the settings just can't add a printer :)
[05:31] <maybelle_> ok got that
[05:31] <maybelle_> then wat is next
[05:31] <dura> kane77, Okay thanks... I wasn't sure if that was still okay to do or not. I"ve broken a few Debian boxes doing it that way.
[05:31] <mnk> dr_willis: i am in the lpadmin group though
[05:31] <nightcoder> maybelle: you will replace 'X' on that command to a number between 2 and '11'
[05:31] <mgorbach> its strange ... im getting the following line is dmesg:
[05:31] <ompaul> c172, System administration logon screen setup, and go to the Automatic logon box
[05:31] <exhale> is there a reason Ubuntu uses Gnome?
[05:31] <nathan_> anyone have a link on how to enable mp3 / wmv / divx / xvid / etc playback in ubuntu?
[05:32] <mgorbach> [4294669.829000]  SMP motherboard not detected.
[05:32] <maybelle_> ok then
[05:32] <c172> ompaul, I'm trying to do this remotely
[05:32] <tRSS> thoreauputic: that is interesting, but useful information
[05:32] <avis> mgorbach, try getting a k8 smp kernel if one exists.
[05:32] <c172> but that might be too much to ask for
[05:32] <thoreauputic> exhale: you can use KDE too  if you wish
[05:32] <ompaul> exhale, cos the devs wanted to, there is a xfce version, and a kde version also
[05:32] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: try a differnt pdf and see if you get ssame errors if the pdf has dll's enbedded thats just really strange to me
[05:32] <kane77> i'm trying to install "grub-gfxboot" but it says that it has conflict with current "grub"... anyone has installed it?? How should I proceed???
[05:32] <Rancilio> join/ #granada
[05:32] <c172> I think I enabled automatic login again in gdm
[05:32] <c172> now I just want to see if vino is starting the way it should
[05:32] <ompaul> c172, install vnc and remotely control the session
[05:33] <maybelle_> ei nightcoder
[05:33] <c172> xvnc and vncserver don't start
[05:33] <maybelle_> r u stil der :((
[05:33] <maybelle_> im w8tng for u waaaaaa
[05:33] <gnomefreak> mgorbach: are you using the smp kernel?
[05:33] <thoreauputic> tRSS: usually the default answer is to keep your config but in this case it was a better idea to acept the new one - I should have looked at it more closely I guess :)
[05:33] <thoreauputic> *accept
[05:33] <avis> mgorbach, they used to name the 64 bit arch releases amd64.  now its ia64 or whatever.  heh !
[05:33] <c172> this has to be in a configuration file somewhere... did they hide it and throw away the path?
[05:33] <mgorbach> yep
[05:33] <nevchen_> firefox starts very very slow how can I fix it?
[05:33] <mgorbach> im not using a 64biut
[05:33] <mgorbach> *64bit
[05:33] <c172> it must  take an active effort to make things this hard to understand
[05:33] <tRSS> me too, but I guess the default also said that we should keep the old one
[05:33] <mgorbach> im using an i686 kernel ... it shows up as SMP
[05:33] <iiiears> exhale - GNOME is a bit lighter on resources and the menus aren't as cluttered as KDE. KDE has GNOME beat hands down for beauty though. - it is even possible for some time now to enable true.transparency ala "Windows Vista"
[05:33] <avis> oh just smp
[05:34] <dman> join #ubuntu-xgl
[05:34] <maybelle_> ei guys where's nightcoder /wah
[05:34] <nightcoder> maybelle: Im still here
[05:34] <maybelle_> der u go
[05:34] <maybelle_> whats next night
[05:34] <maybelle_> =p
 exhale - GNOME is a bit lighter on resources
[05:34] <duane> not true
[05:34] <avis> you just need a smp kernel look at a system monitor in gnome to see if there are two cpus there or the device manager
[05:34] <duane> kde is way lighter on resources
[05:34] <maybelle_> now where understandng each other thnks 2 u :D
[05:34] <thomas__> TiG4
[05:34] <duane> and it is snappier than gnome
[05:34] <thomas__> I need to register before ;-)
[05:34] <duane> and i find the menu system in kde more organized that gnome
[05:34] <Subhuman> duane, kde runs shittier than gnome for me.
[05:34] <nightcoder> maybelle: now, try to ping every machine on your network
[05:34] <nikos> hello can you plz telle me ehat the option in gnoem i ahev to change so it can let me login as root?
[05:35] <thoreauputic> duane: desktop wars -->> #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:35] <nightcoder> ping 192.168.0.2
[05:35] <maybelle_> yes
[05:35] <Subhuman> duane, i think they mean compare qt to gtk - i find gtk alot quicker.
[05:35] <maybelle_> we already done thats
[05:35] <duane> i guess it is relative to the user
[05:35] <apokryphos> ...
[05:35] <nightcoder> maybelle: ping 192.168.0.3  ...
[05:35] <duane> but to say that kde is faster than gnome or gnome is faster than kde is bull
[05:35] <maybelle_> yes
[05:35] <H0ddi> Some things is Gnome are just braindead, but I find it mostly usable
[05:35] <maybelle_> its also working
[05:35] <nightcoder> hit 'Ctrl + C' to stop ping
[05:35] <nikos> plz someone
[05:35] <avis> nikos, open console, type sudo -i, enter password, then you have root
[05:35] <nightcoder> maybelle: great!
[05:35] <maybelle_> yup
[05:35] <maybelle_> waaaaaaaaaa
[05:35] <maybelle_> whats next
[05:35] <maybelle_> now ur smiling ahem =p
[05:35] <nightcoder> maybelle: now, you can share anything you want between computers
[05:36] <Boglizk> Why isn't possible to update through Update Manager? I just get "Failed to fetch...".
[05:36] <nikos> avis i wan tto be able to run gnome as root as well
[05:36] <maybelle_> how can i do that
[05:36] <H0ddi> Just try changing the color of the font on the panel
[05:36] <maybelle_> can i do that now
[05:36] <avis> nikos you cannot
[05:36] <thoreauputic> *** General Announcement *** The channel is busy - if you want to chat about the relative merits of KDE and GNOME, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:36] <nikos> i can i did it tin the past
[05:36] <avis> nikos you cannot login to ubuntu with user "root"
[05:36] <nikos> i did it in the past
[05:36] <nightcoder> maybelle: under System -> Admin -> Shared folders
[05:36] <nikos> i just can rwcall the option
[05:36] <neutrinomass> nikos: May I please /msg you ?
[05:36] <nikos> i think it was in "sessions"
[05:36] <nikos> neutrinomass: yes of course
[05:36] <nightcoder> You can share ... folders :)
[05:37] <neutrinomass> nikos: Why would you want to login to gnome as root ?
[05:37] <vincenz> Hello
[05:37] <setros> hey, please help
[05:37] <vincenz> I have an issue with dapper
[05:37] <vincenz> I installed fine
[05:37] <vincenz> I now rebooted
[05:37] <vincenz> and it can't launch x
[05:37] <TiG4> neutrinomass: to avoid typing root all the time :)
[05:37] <apokryphos> !enter
[05:37] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:37] <avis> neurino, because you shouldn't be doing it.  he is misbehaving :o
[05:37] <dura> lol
[05:37] <mgorbach> im trying the k7 kernel now ...
[05:37] <maybelle_> then
[05:37] <nikos> i also want to disable the sudo command
[05:37] <setros> I write "make" in terminal and Ubuntu don't recognize the command :S
[05:37] <mnk> dr_willis: i get this when i tried to print from the cups web interface [i got in] HP "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[05:37] <avis> mgorbach, be sure its smp
[05:37] <TiG4> mgorbach: what are the advantages of K7?
[05:37] <dura> nikos, Type sudo passwd
[05:37] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: my bad _ewh.api_
[05:37] <apokryphos> nikos: huh, why?
[05:37] <billybobthortonn> how can i install dapper (from CD) in text mode? (installing without booting to dapper gui)
[05:37] <maybelle_> what shud we do next nightcoder
[05:38] <gnomefreak> setros: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:38] <nikos> i dotn want to type sudo each time
[05:38] <apokryphos> billybobthortonn: /msg ubotu alternate
[05:38] <dura> nikos, Type sudo passwd
[05:38] <mgorbach> well right now im just trying to get the thing to recognize my dual core 4800
[05:38] <TiG4> Does anyone have a link to a write-up or how-to on tunneling an x connection
[05:38] <nightcoder> maybelle: you will share computer folders in one (or various) hosts
[05:38] <Subhuman> what is the keyboard called in /dev ??/
[05:38] <apokryphos> nikos: so don't; type sudo -i to get into a root shell
[05:38] <thoreauputic> nikos: sudo -i gives you a root shell
[05:38] <maybelle_> w8 ill try
[05:38] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: :)
[05:38] <c172> ok, so vncserver says it started but I can't connect
[05:38] <c172> what am I missing?
[05:38] <nightcoder> maybelle: after this, you will access that folder from each computer, easily
[05:38] <nikos> dura: its ask for a password
[05:38] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: hmmmmmm that i dont know
[05:39] <maybelle_> whats the procedure nightcoder
[05:39] <iiiears> TiG4 - OpenSSH?
[05:39] <setros> gnomefreak, it says that the packages are broken
[05:39] <mnk> anyone else know why i get this when i tried to print a test page from the cups web interface: HP "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[05:39] <avis> mgorbach, are you sure your motherboard bios is up to the latest version ?
[05:39] <Canard> I have a computer running ubuntu I wish to connect to a router using a USB cable, I have checked the manufactures homepage and they do not offer drivers for Linux, how should I get it too connect to the internet?
[05:39] <nightcoder> Places -> Network servers
[05:39] <TiG4> iiiears: Can I use that to have a remote display (I dont want NVC)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> setros: sudo apt-get -f install  (no package nameplease) just the command
[05:39] <TiG4> (VNC)
[05:39] <nikos> plz tell me how to log ina s root
[05:39] <nikos> and disable the sudo commnnd
[05:39] <dura> Canard, Plug it in and see if it works.
[05:39] <runelind> does dapper support a graphical config of dual screens like FC5?
[05:39] <nikos> ic an t find that in gui
[05:39] <avis> Canard does it have an ethernet port ?
[05:39] <apokryphos> nikos: no, logging in as root is unsafe
[05:39] <gnomefreak> nikos: its not recommended to do that
[05:39] <neutrinomass> !tell nikos about root
[05:40] <maybelle_> ei hold a moment night
[05:40] <thoreauputic> !tell nikos about root
[05:40] <maybelle_> its asking for a authentication required
[05:40] <neutrinomass> nikos: It takes a little while to get used to sudo, but then you'll understand why it rocks :)
[05:40] <iiiears> TiG4 - yes, OpenSSH is encrypted tcp/ip
[05:40] <nikos> i know but iam sued to work with other distro like this
[05:40] <nightcoder> maybelle: or places -> connect to a server
[05:40] <Canard> dura, that was plan A when that failed I moved to plan B which was freenode. avis no
[05:40] <stbrenner> everytime i download a .wmv movie it closes totem
[05:40] <avis> runelind, i dont believe so
[05:40] <apokryphos> nikos: read what ubotu is sending you
[05:40] <maybelle_> i dont have any server
[05:40] <Paradoxx> Seveas: you there? I need help setting up freenx b/w linux machines
[05:40] <runelind> avis: :(
[05:40] <billybobthortonn> how do i netboot install dapper? (I have a cd)
[05:40] <dura> Canard, Hmm... I have a USB to ethernet adapter... might try one of those
[05:40] <runelind> that's too bad
[05:40] <mgorbach> ok ... still no luck
[05:40] <avis> Canard, do you have a standalone tivo with usb ports ?
[05:40] <apokryphos> billybobthortonn: /msg ubotu install
[05:40] <nightcoder> maybelle: each machine sharing a folder act as a file server
[05:40] <mgorbach> only one processor detected
[05:40] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell billybobthortonn -about netinstall
[05:40] <dura> I haven't yet played with USB networking... but I do have it enabled on all my machines.
[05:41] <vincenz> I have issues with xorg postinstall
[05:41] <dura> mgorbach, BIOS setting all correct?
[05:41] <Canard> avis standalone tivo? I don't think so
[05:41] <stbrenner> i can run the .wmv from firefox and it works (with some video problems, it's really bright) but if i download it it won't open at all (it just closes totem).  i have w32codecs installed
[05:41] <c172> vncserver starts but I can't connect, xvnc doesn't start... is this supposed to work in 6.06?
[05:41] <maybelle_> all my computers will be servers?
[05:41] <mnk> anyone else know why i get this when i tried to print a test page from the cups web interface: HP "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[05:41] <mgorbach> yeah windows detects everything OK
[05:41] <vincenz> it complains about lacking GLCore
[05:41] <maybelle_> let suppose i have 3 computer running now
[05:41] <nightcoder> maybelle: not 'servers'
[05:41] <gnomefreak> stbrenner: try totem-xine
[05:41] <dura> mnk, Is your firewall blocking RIP packets?
[05:41] <stbrenner> i have it
[05:41] <avis> mnk, because you haven't gotten it to work in the first place ?  google is your best friend
[05:42] <gnomefreak> stbrenner: mplayer should play it without an issue also
[05:42] <mnk> dura: it won't print anyway
[05:42] <nightcoder> maybelle: it will serve some service (shared folders in that case)
[05:42] <dura> mnk, Of course not... not if your firewall is dropping the packets.
[05:42] <mnk> avis: i tried google - a lot of ppl have this problem with ubuntu / hp lj 1000 and only one solution which doesn't work
[05:42] <maybelle_> what do you mean by that? it will seve sme service?
[05:43] <mgorbach> any other suggestions? its quite dissapointing that ubuntu cant detected another processor
[05:43] <Canard> dura, did you need to install anything for the USB to ethernet thing to work or was it a case of plug in and work?
[05:43] <mnk> dura: how can i switch off the firewall? i am on a default ubuntu 6.06 install
[05:43] <nikos> why dont i have login scren setup option?
[05:43] <setros> gnomefreak, it doesn't works... it doesn't install or actualize anytihng
[05:43] <Seveas> nikos, Because it's not there ;)
[05:43] <avis> if there is one solution that is proven then you be sure to follow that exactly.  if you did and it still does not work -- perhaps its irrecoverable
[05:43] <maybelle_> ei night
[05:43] <Paradoxx> Seveas: can you you use freenx right?
[05:43] <nightcoder> maybelle: you is inside a closed network, using virtual IPs your machines will comunicate and share everything you need
[05:43] <nikos> look i want gui as root
[05:43] <Seveas> Paradoxx, yes
[05:44] <nikos> and i dotn want to ask me each time to sudo
[05:44] <maybelle_> but night
[05:44] <avis> mnk is the printer on another computer or a wireless printer ?
[05:44] <nikos> plz tell me how to do it
[05:44] <dura> mnk, I'm not sure what 6.06 uses for a firewall but yes it can be turned off.
[05:44] <Paradoxx> how do you start the client
[05:44] <fsancho> hi all
[05:44] <Paradoxx> i followed the wiki, but my client won't start
[05:44] <Seveas> Paradoxx, via the menu 
[05:44] <maybelle_> when we are accesing our network its asking for the username domain and password
[05:44] <avis> firestarter, but its not installed by default
[05:44] <Seveas> or with /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[05:44] <maybelle_> authentication required
[05:44] <nikos> come on ppl
[05:44] <Paradoxx> where in the menu is it for oyu
[05:44] <dura> Canard, Yeah I just plugged it in and it worked.
[05:44] <avis> a router is at least a nat firewall
[05:44] <fsancho> i'm experienceing problems after upgrading from breezy to dapper
[05:44] <nikos> its my comp and i want o login the way i like
[05:44] <Seveas> nikos, we don't help people wrecking their system
[05:44] <stevekl> Does dist-upgrade do everything that upgrade does? Should I run both every day, or what?
[05:44] <Canard> M'kay, I have seen them before. Thanks
[05:44] <fsancho> i'm using kernel 2.6.15-23 and orinoco driver doesn't works
[05:45] <Paradoxx> Seveas: where in the menu is it..and is there a way to get it to launch without having to do the whole /usr/NX/bin/nxclient command
[05:45] <avis> fsancho, is it a laptop ?
[05:45] <georg> can someone point me to a channel where i can ask ndiswrapper specific questions?
[05:45] <nightcoder> maybelle: what kind of share are you using (SMB) or (NFS)
[05:45] <fsancho> orinoco driver seems to work, the card lights blinks
[05:45] <vincenz> I upgraded to dapper but it doesn't like GLCore and flgrx in xorg.conf... How do I solve this... In addition it seems that vime changed location, so it can't find the vimfiles
[05:45] <kane77> I was wondering how do I make unwanted processes not load on startup (such as PCMCIA)???
[05:45] <marvin_> Hello... can I use amaroK and gstreamer on Dapper
[05:45] <dura> georg, Ask here
[05:45] <Seveas> Paradoxx, applications  internet
[05:45] <fsancho> avis, yes, a Thinkpad 600X, and the wiereless card a compaq WL1100 Pcmcia
[05:45] <maybelle_> SMB
[05:45] <vincenz> !ubotu flgrx
[05:45] <ubotu> vincenz: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:45] <vincenz> !ubotu nvidia
[05:45] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[05:45] <dura> fglrx
[05:45] <dura> not flgrx
[05:45] <vincenz> !ubotu fglrx
[05:45] <ubotu> [fglrx]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:45] <c172> if I use vncserver, would it start gnome normally?
[05:45] <avis> fsancho some orinoco cards uses the mad_wifi driver
[05:45] <avis> my grandma is here !
[05:45] <avis> brb guys
[05:45] <Seveas> !ati
[05:45] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[05:45] <neutrinomass> nikos: It is strongly discouraged that you use the root account. If you insist on using it, please read the wiki page ubotu sent you.
[05:45] <Paradoxx> Seveas: lol, it wasn't there at first...thx much m8
[05:46] <kane77> hi
[05:46] <Seveas> !no fglrx is <reply> see ati
[05:46] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[05:46] <fsancho> avis, with breezy i was using orinoco
[05:46] <bintrue> Anyone have any experience with Remote registry changes from Linux to a WinXP box?
[05:46] <stbrenner> anyone know how i can get mplayer?
[05:46] <stbrenner> it's not in synaptic
[05:46] <nikos> neutrinomass: i did man but i dont have ahny login screen setup
[05:46] <nikos> its not there!
[05:46] <stbrenner> and the command line doesn't work either
[05:46] <Seveas> stbrenner, it sure is
[05:46] <dura> I don't see what the big deal is about root and Ubuntu and when virtually every other distro allows root access.
[05:46] <Seveas> !info mplayer
[05:46] <stbrenner> where?
[05:46] <Seveas> !info mplayer-586
[05:46] <nightcoder> maybelle: do you have added your computers under 'permission' list
[05:46] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[05:46] <dura> The only reason I can think of is to protect n00bs
[05:46] <georg> i have no idea, how to setup my agere wlan adapter with ndiswrapper. i tried the drivers from the agere site and installed them with ndiswrapper -i ???.inf, but they did not work
[05:46] <vincenz> how do I get mouse support in the regular consoles?
[05:46] <mnk> dura: my firewall is off
[05:46] <bigcx2> hey all
[05:46] <maybelle_> no how can i do that??
[05:46] <bigcx2> i have a sysadmin question
[05:46] <dura> mnk, Still isn't working?
[05:46] <fsancho> avis, and it seems to work ok, because iwconfig works, ifconfig works, and the lights of the card blinks. But no traffic at all
[05:47] <nightcoder> maybelle: 'shared folders'
[05:47] <bigcx2> can you force apt to only use keys managed by apt-key
[05:47] <mnk> dura: nope
[05:47] <maybelle_> then
[05:47] <nightcoder> maybelle: below 'shared folders list'
[05:47] <marvin_> Hello... can I use amaroK and gstreamer on Dapper
[05:47] <stbrenner> hmm
[05:47] <dura> mnk, Can you give me ssh access?
[05:47] <stbrenner> i don't see it
[05:47] <neutrinomass> nikos: Sorry, I can't help. I'm logged in in Xfce now :)
[05:47] <nikos> neutrinomass: how ic an iudentify myself?
[05:47] <maybelle_> then
[05:47] <mnk> dura: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed - what does that mean?
[05:47] <paolo_> guys, gnome-cups-manager can't see the epson usb printer. When restarting cups I find repeatetly this message in syslog:" CUPS-Get-Printers client-error-not-found: No destinations added." Any idea
[05:47] <paolo_> ?
[05:47] <maybelle_> add?
[05:47] <nikos> i can tlk to you
[05:47] <vincenz> the flgrx help page from the wiki does not work for me
[05:47] <nightcoder> maybelle: click on your shared folder
[05:48] <nightcoder> then click 'properties'
[05:48] <vincenz> particularly the linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[05:48] <neutrinomass> nikos: Sorry? I don't understand ...
[05:48] <dura> mnk, Could mean any number of things... did you try searching http://www.google.com/linux with that message?
[05:48] <maybelle_> there is no item on the list
[05:48] <nightcoder> under properties ?
[05:48] <dr_willis> mnk:  well i just removed the printer off the network-fileserver :P and am trying it locally.. save me walking. lets see if it works now. Sad is ive NEVER had this problem with this same printer/setup in other ubuntu versions
[05:48] <maybelle_> i can only see add button
[05:48] <nightcoder> or main 'shared folders' screen
[05:48] <zipper_> I've finally got my dualview working, horray. But for some reason, the login screen is always on my tv only, i want it to be on my monitor. My xorg.conf is here : http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1741
[05:48] <maybelle_> where is that
[05:49] <nightcoder> maybelle: you should add some folders to be public visible in your network envir ..
[05:49] <almuleon> ola
[05:49] <nightcoder> click add
[05:49] <maybelle_> then
[05:49] <dman> hi all, I cant get my front panel mic to work, the output jack works but I cant get any response from the mic.. any ideas?
[05:50] <nightcoder> choose a path to the folder that you want to share
[05:50] <dura> dman,  Did you check to see if the mic is muted? It is by default
[05:50] <mnk> dura: yes but to no avail
[05:50] <maybelle_> ok then
[05:50] <nightcoder> choose the share method
[05:50] <maybelle_> ?
[05:50] <dura> mnk, hmmm
[05:50] <maybelle_> ei night
[05:50] <maybelle_> look at this
[05:50] <dura> Is the input for the mic turned on?
[05:50] <maybelle_> under shared folders
[05:50] <nightcoder> maybelle: click 'add machine'
[05:51] <maybelle_> path and share with
[05:51] <dura> brb phone
[05:51] <maybelle_> share with comes with SMB
[05:51] <thomas__> I don't speak a very good english is there a french helper :P
[05:51] <CrippsFX> for java is there something the same as, or similar to "#DEFINE" of C/C++ ?
[05:51] <mnk> dr_willis: which printer r u tryinmg?
[05:51] <maybelle_> under it is share properties
[05:51] <maybelle_> name blank
[05:51] <maybelle_> comment blank
[05:51] <CrippsFX> shit ... wrong room ...
[05:51] <dr_willis> mnk:  got an old reliable hp laserjet 6l. - 10+ yrs old.
[05:51] <maybelle_> then der is a box there
[05:51] <iiiears> #ubuntu-fr ?
[05:51] <maybelle_> read only and allow browsing folder
[05:51] <nightcoder> uncheck
[05:51] <thomas__> thanks iiiears
[05:52] <Kyynara> I updated to dapper, but X won't start, it says something about not beeing able to load libglcore.so. Anyone have any ideas?
[05:52] <georg> noone with a working Agere Systems Hermes2 Mini-PCI WaveLAN adapter here? PCI ID is 11c1:ab30
[05:52] <maybelle_> everythng is uncheck night
[05:52] <nightcoder> but check 'allow browse folder'
[05:52] <maybelle_> then
[05:52] <nightcoder> confirm
[05:52] <dr_willis> mnk:  it was on a dlnik network-print server for the last 2 years. :P working good.. so i just moved it locally.. cups saw it right off..  hmm it even selected a print driver for it. not the one i normally select.
[05:52] <Paradoxx> Seveas: is there a way to control the current session instead of getting a new one?
[05:52] <dr_willis> mnk:  perhaps now my margins will be right. :P
[05:52] <maybelle_> what should be the proper entry on the path
[05:52] <maybelle_> ?
[05:52] <Seveas> no
[05:53] <nightcoder> maybelle: the path to the folder you want to share
[05:53] <iiiears> dr_willis - gutenprint is a big improvement isn't? - grin
[05:53] <nightcoder> /home/maybelle/anythingyouwant
[05:53] <maybelle_> ok i put there home
[05:53] <maybelle_> then wats next
[05:54] <maybelle_> share with SMB
[05:54] <nightcoder> maybelle: yes ...
[05:54] <maybelle_> ok next
[05:54] <maybelle_> share properties?
[05:54] <maybelle_> name?
[05:54] <maybelle_> comment?
[05:54] <mnk> MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN i dunno what is wrong with this stupid printer!! i keep getting /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed
[05:54] <Paradoxx> how do i access a computer using samba? When i type the ip address in nautilus it dosen't find it
[05:55] <avis> you can navigate the network
[05:55] <Paradoxx> how?
[05:55] <avis> through gui
[05:55] <vincenz> vim has moved in dapper... how do I fix this:  Can't open file /usr/share/vim/syntax/syntax.vim
[05:55] <maybelle_> night r u der?
[05:55] <dr_willis> iiiears:  i can honestly say taht ive had very few if any problems with CUPS over the last few years. Other then a few lame programs messing with the margins. :P
[05:55] <grap> hi
[05:55] <avis> network servers
[05:55] <avis> in gnome
[05:55] <nightcoder> maybelle: on the 'name' field you should type something (to search in another computer for that name)
[05:55] <Paradoxx> when i type in \\<ipaddress> on a windows machine i get it.. how do i do it on linux
[05:55] <buzzed> after upgrading to Dapper my firefox auto launch is messed up... like for clicking a link in irc or yahoo mail
[05:55] <runa> hey :) Since I installed dapper drake glxgears is -extremely- slow. I've installed nvidia-glx and I've configured xorg. Also, glxinfo shows direct rendering is on. Any hints?
[05:55] <grap> i need some help with my keyboard, it is a laptop keyboard with the pc105 setting on the xorg.conf and my ALTGR key does not work! what can I do
[05:55] <maybelle_> like what<?
[05:56] <dr_willis> iiiears:  and I just realized that ive been using A4 instead of "letter" for my printer paper size for the last year+ Lol. my mistake..
[05:56] <reaper> mmmmmm
[05:56] <maybelle_> can u give me an ex. entry
[05:56] <halibut> my webbrowsing is extremely slow, how would I go about diagnosing this?
[05:56] <iiiears> mnk - Psst. Update gutenpint to the dev version. most don't need the update to the latest version but it might help if you need a printer installed that isn't otherwise listed.
[05:56] <avis> buzzed, seems to be a reoccuring thing for people that upgraded through network.  dist-upgrade sucessful but things are broken.  wait and hope for fixes ?
[05:56] <kbrosnan> buzzed, try http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol
[05:56] <nightcoder> well, if your shared folder is called 'photos' you can use 'photos' in name :)
[05:56] <avis> or fresh install, my .02
[05:56] <nightcoder> put 'home', ou 'personal_folder'
[05:56] <vincenz> btw... some packages are not upgraded
[05:56] <c172> uh... that's wierd
[05:57] <maybelle_> i put there home
[05:57] <c172> would upgrading to 6.06 reset my X resolution, or is that just the vnc viewer?
[05:57] <Paradoxx> is there a simple way to access a smb share from another linux machine?
[05:57] <maybelle_> then on the comment what should i put>
[05:57] <_mason> Could we help reaper get ubuntu live disk working on his toshiba M70 W00
[05:57] <Paradoxx> !samba
[05:57] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:57] <avis> c172, its not supposed to break anything :)
[05:57] <nightcoder> you can leave it blacnk or type home too
[05:57] <maybelle_> then what
[05:57] <maybelle_> ive also check allow browsing folder
[05:57] <_mason> Doesnt boot gdm
[05:58] <c172> it's supposed to work, but this is linux so we know better than that
[05:58] <maybelle_> then below it there is a box
[05:58] <reaper> HELP! I can't get ubuntu running on my toshiba notebook
[05:58] <maybelle_> general windows sharing settings
[05:58] <maybelle_> what is next
[05:58] <DShepherd> richiefrich: invite me to what?
[05:58] <iiiears> reaper - What error messages are you seeing?
[05:58] <grap> i need some help with my keyboard, it is a laptop keyboard with the pc105 setting on the xorg.conf and my ALTGR key does not work! what can I do
[05:58] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ping?
[05:58] <mnk> iiiears: how do i do that pls?
[05:58] <nightcoder> maybelle: tell me what options are
[05:58] <avis> reaper, check ubuntu laptop HCL
[05:58] <maybelle_> ok look at this
[05:59] <c172> are the remote desktop options always stored in the same place for one user?
[05:59] <maybelle_> the windows sharing setting under that is
[05:59] <c172> I don't remember configuring it like this...
[05:59] <Seveas> gnomefreak, pong
[05:59] <gnomefreak> Seveas: was there an update of xorg between rc and release?
[05:59] <maybelle_> host descrption server (samba, ubuntu)
[05:59] <maybelle_> the domain/workgroup is MSHOME
[05:59] <maybelle_> after that
[05:59] <maybelle_> wins server
[05:59] <richiefrich> DShepherd did u get that
[05:59] <maybelle_> do not use win server
[05:59] <Seveas> gnomefreak, could be
[05:59] <maybelle_> this computer is a wins server
[05:59] <DShepherd> richiefrich: no.. go again
[05:59] <gnomefreak> hmm
[05:59] <maybelle_> use win server
[05:59] <_mason> iiiears: None, he can hear the startup sound but no desktop
[06:00] <maybelle_> on my wins server
[06:00] <richiefrich> DShepherd  now ?
[06:00] <babo> is it possible to mount my remote servers file system to my desktop. And then use my desktop to sweep it for rootkits etc ...
[06:00] <babo> ?
[06:00] <vincenz> is there any reason why synaptic would hang when downloading even if it worked priorly?
[06:00] <DShepherd> richiefrich: on more time :-)
[06:00] <maybelle_> the computers default it put a check on the do not use wins server
[06:00] <iiiears> mnk - the dev version of gutenprint was listed in the synaptic package manager last time i checked. - "System".."Administrarion" >> "Synaptic Package Manager" search "gutenprint"
[06:00] <maybelle_> whats next
[06:00] <DShepherd> richiefrich: srry
[06:00] <gnomefreak> ok ty Seveas ill work on that tonight than im hoping thats the issue
[06:00] <richiefrich> DShepherd  ok
[06:00] <Paradoxx> how do i connect to my machine using nautilus?
[06:00] <Skip> running dapper but python2.4 tkinter examples do not run. Even hello world in python tk says color black not defined???
[06:00] <nightcoder> maybelle: change only 'workgroup'
[06:00] <kane77> I was wondering how do I make unwanted processes not load on startup (such as PCMCIA)???
[06:01] <stevekl> Should I upgrade my breezy server (no window manager or desktop installed) to dapper?
[06:01] <nightcoder> maybelle: put your internet cafe name, instead of 'MSHOME'
[06:01] <nightcoder> maybelle: do not use 'spaces'
[06:01] <maybelle_> on  the work group>
[06:01] <grap> kane77, go to /etc/rc.dX/ and move it to another number
[06:01] <reaper> mmmm
[06:01] <nightcoder> maybelle: exactly
[06:01] <grap> stevekl, not yet
[06:01] <maybelle_> ok
[06:01] <exhale> !se
[06:01] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[06:01] <maybelle_> then
[06:01] <stevekl> grap: o
[06:02] <nightcoder> maybelle: confirm
[06:02] <maybelle_> should i also change the host description>
[06:02] <Paradoxx> how do i connect to a remote machine using nautilus?
[06:02] <simian__> sorry, but can someone enter benward.dyndns.org into a browser
[06:02] <nightcoder> maybelle: click ok ...
[06:02] <maybelle_> now im back on the share folder
[06:02] <simian__> i want to see if i have unblocked port 80
[06:02] <maybelle_> shud i also click ok>
[06:02] <nightcoder> yes
[06:02] <avis> Paradoxx, network servers lets me browse samba under gnome
[06:02] <mnk> iiiears: yeah but it doesn't tell me which one is the dev version... all the results r installed apart from cupsys-driver-gutenprint
[06:02] <maybelle_>  /root is on my shared folders list
[06:03] <maybelle_> should i click ok "OK" now?
[06:03] <kane77> grap, I don't see anything like rc.dx  inside /etc...
[06:03] <nightcoder> maybelle: you can remove it
[06:03] <nightcoder> yes, click 'OK'
[06:03] <vincenz> Where does synaptic take it's proxy address from
[06:03] <grap> rcX.d
[06:03] <maybelle_> its done
[06:03] <maybelle_> next
[06:03] <grap> kane77, rcX.d
[06:03] <Sp4rKy> hy
[06:03] <kermitX_> simian__: use shields up http://www.grc.com/default.htm
[06:03] <reaper> I dont see how it would be filed under HCL errors, i can get a screen, just not in gui. when i attempt to reset it, it says command not recognised
[06:03] <iiiears> simian - Take a peek at the "Firestarter" firewall (it's in synaptcic package manager" having a GUI makes changing things easier.
[06:04] <nightcoder> now, from another computer, try to find that 'home' folder in your network
[06:04] <Sp4rKy> where can i set the proxy configuration for software like pat ?
[06:04] <buzzed> trying easy ubuntu... says I need to fix broken packages
[06:04] <maybelle_> how do i do that
[06:04] <nightcoder> Places -> Network Servers (to browse your network)
[06:04] <Skip> running dapper but python2.4 tkinter examples do not run. Even hello world in python tk says color black not defined???
[06:04] <iiiears> simian_ - shields up gibson research corporation
[06:04] <simian__> iiiears: i'm using firestarter and i've set rule to allow http port 80 traffic
[06:04] <nbx909> !firefox
[06:04] <avis> reaper. just a guess, but you need to reconfig your x-server sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:05] <avis> then startx as user
[06:05] <vincenz> I have an issue with synaptic...for some reason it tries to keep using a proxy even though I disabled it!
[06:05] <grap> i need some help with my keyboard, it is a laptop keyboard with the pc105 setting on the xorg.conf and my ALTGR key does not work! what can I do
[06:05] <kane77> grap, and what to rename it to??
[06:05] <reaper> kk, thanks avis
[06:05] <grap> kane77, something else
[06:06] <grap> kane77, it doesnt matter
[06:06] <avis> wait
[06:06] <avis> reaper
[06:06] <mgorbach> can someone help me out with ubuntu xgl install?
[06:06] <tdondich> Is Dapper all that and a bag of chips?
[06:06] <avis> before you reconfig
[06:06] <mgorbach>  iv set up a the script and selected the session but it seems to be running X and not Xgl
[06:06] <reaper> yeah my laptop isnt in the HCL
[06:06] <avis> reaper ??
[06:06] <avis> ok
[06:06] <reaper> yes?
[06:06] <kane77> grap, you mean the files inside (KXXsomething)??
[06:06] <reaper> this is all live remember
[06:06] <grap> yes
[06:06] <avis> backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:06] <avis> then do what i said
[06:06] <maybelle_> ei
[06:06] <maybelle_> night
[06:07] <reaper> backup? im live?
[06:07] <maybelle_> its asking for the authentication required
[06:07] <iiiears> tdondich - It is definetly worth a try.
[06:07] <avis> whoah i am talking in a chat room of almost 1000 people
[06:07] <nightcoder> if you type your password, it works ?
[06:07] <vincenz> why does synaptic keep using a proxy even after I disabled it??
[06:07] <maybelle_> for my username domain and password
[06:07] <maybelle_> no
[06:07] <maybelle_> its keeps on poping
[06:07] <kane77> grap, and I think rc0-6 mean runlevels (6 as restart etc..) am I right??
[06:08] <reaper> avis! dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:08] <nightcoder> maybelle: under 'Places -> Network servers' you found a 'Windows network', right
[06:08] <reaper> wont work
[06:08] <reaper> command not found
[06:08] <grap> kane77, yes you are
[06:08] <nightcoder> then, your workgroup
[06:08] <Skip> Any pthons programmers out there?
[06:08] <tritium> reaper: type it correctly
[06:08] <nightcoder> and finally your shared computer
[06:08] <maybelle_> yes
[06:08] <reaper> haha
[06:08] <Skip> Any Python programmers out there?
[06:08] <maybelle_> it only has a windows network
[06:09] <kane77> grap, thanx a lot... you know I learn something new every day...
[06:09] <tahorg> Skip: mmh ?
[06:09] <nightcoder> inside windows network
[06:09] <avis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, reaper
[06:09] <grap> thats good
[06:09] <reaper> ahh my bad
[06:09] <gomek> hello everyone
[06:09] <reaper> sorry, freaked out
[06:09] <maybelle_> how do i do tjhat
[06:09] <iiiears> !display
[06:09] <ubotu> it has been said that display is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[06:09] <nightcoder> double click windows network icon
[06:09] <maybelle_> inside windows network there is nothng
[06:09] <tahorg> Skip: what's your question ?
[06:09] <maybelle_> waaaaaaaaa
[06:09] <gomek> anyone here have any clue how to activate a screensaver for gdm?
[06:10] <mnk> what does this mean pls? hplip-base:
[06:10] <mnk>   Depends: hplip-data (=0.9.5-2ubuntu2) but 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:10] <mnk>  Depends: libcupsys2-gnutls10 (>= 1.1.23-1)
[06:10] <maybelle_> ive got nothng inside my windows network
[06:10] <maybelle_> :(( night
[06:10] <Skip> The hello world does not run using Python Tk in dapper. Says black not defined???
[06:10] <gomek> might have to do with your rgb.txt
[06:11] <nightcoder> maybelle: something is wrong
[06:11] <gomek> try...
[06:11] <iiiears> mnk - hewlett packard?
[06:11] <gomek> sudo ln -s /etc/X11/rgb.txt /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt
[06:11] <nightcoder> maybelle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[06:11] <mnk> iiiears: yeah
[06:11] <gomek> sudo ln -s /etc/X11/rgb.txt /usr/X11R6/lib/rgb.txt
[06:11] <gomek> sudo ln -s /etc/X11/rgb.txt /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt
[06:12] <avis> maybelle_, in xp run the network setup wizard.  define MSHOME.  it'll then work after you right click and share folders
[06:12] <gomek> and see if that helps
[06:12] <avis> if you want password protection you have to enable do not use simple file sharing
[06:12] <gomek> anyways, does anyone have any clue how to enable a screensaver on the gdm login screen?
[06:13] <roc> a question: does anyone know a good cd/dvd burning program for gnome specificly?
[06:13] <lastnode> roc, gnomebaker
[06:13] <reaper> avis, i redid my config file now. i've logged out, how do i start xserver again?
[06:13] <avis> startx
[06:13] <nightcoder> maybelle: do you have 'smbclient' installed under that 'other' computer (not the computer that is sharing folders)
[06:13] <reaper> mmmmmmmmm
[06:13] <reaper> ok then what?
[06:13] <roc> lastnode: thanks
[06:13] <avis> gdm should load
[06:13] <MacSlow> re
[06:13] <reaper> ok
[06:14] <Geoffrey2> when using fakeroot to build debian modules, is there a log file created anywhere I could look at to see what went wrong?
[06:14] <gomek> =\  bah...this sucks.
[06:14] <reaper> "sudo /etc/gdm start" ??
[06:14] <avis> or type /etc/init.d/gdm stop  then etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:14] <TiG4> --AMAZING Video of XGL  http://osvids.com/files/page3-1036-pop.html --
[06:14] <reaper> ok thanks
[06:14] <CokeNCode> hey guys, since i upgraded to 6.06 i can't seem to get tvtime to work
[06:14] <amodlin> AMAZING video of XGL - my desktop
[06:14] <CokeNCode> can anyone help me out here
[06:14] <troytroy> hi how do i close or colapse window or channels in irssi
[06:14] <avis> or as root do top and kill and ghost gdm's.
[06:15] <stbrenner> I am trying to get my video to play back correctly. Whenever I play a video (i've tried DVDs, mpgs, and wmvs), I get the picture...however it is really really bright. It doesn't look how it is supposed to look at all. I would describe it as having the brightness and contrast too high
[06:15] <TiG4> troytroy: /wc
[06:15] <CokeNCode> i think i'll just run automatix agian
[06:15] <Ng> stbrenner: totem should have a series of sliders in its preferences window that let you adjust things like the saturation, which sounds like what the problem there is
[06:15] <avis> ewww scripts :/
[06:15] <Jemt> Greetz. I have just installed Dapper, and I am now trying to install XGL. To my knowledge, ATI Radeom Mobility 6 is already installed properly, so there is no need to install any new drivers. I followed the instructions described in Method A (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29) which seems to work - except that all I got something like 1-2 frames per second. I can actually see the screen is refreshing when y
[06:15] <Jemt> our guys are typing something in the channel. What's wrong? It seems that the /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not being used at all anymore
[06:15] <babo> is ssh configured and running on a default dapper installation ?
[06:15] <troytroy> TiG4, thanks
[06:15] <reaper> avis: when i started it again it failed.
[06:15] <TiG4> troytroy: yw
[06:16] <maybelle_> nightcoder
[06:16] <mnk>  Depends: libcupsys2-gnutls10 (>= 1.1.23-1)
[06:16] <PPower> Jemt: Odd. xorg.conf is fine here
[06:16] <maybelle_> yes it has a samba
[06:16] <avis> reaper gosh at least you made a backup
[06:16] <kdean06> Does Ubuntu release a SMP kernel for servers with the i686 arch?
[06:16] <avis> i dont know what to tell you
[06:16] <reaper> ahaha yeah
[06:16] <avis> kdean06, yes
[06:16] <reaper> alwell hahah
[06:16] <troytroy> TiG4, presume u using irssi
[06:16] <nightcoder> maybelle: you can try now to browse your network again
[06:16] <gomek> linux-image-686?
[06:16] <nightcoder> Places -> Network
[06:17] <reaper> see, this puts me off. every time someone tells me to install it, im open and give it a try and always get uneplainable errors
[06:17] <mwe> kdean06: I think default dapper kernel is smp
[06:17] <reaper> ill keep trying dw
[06:17] <gomek> wait...what's smp?
[06:17] <shady> my god
[06:17] <avis> mutli processor
[06:17] <stbrenner> Ng, i tried that, it's the same in gxine, totme, and VLC....
[06:17] <gomek> ah
[06:17] <Jemt> PPower: Mine too. But it is just not being used. Ie my mouse dosn't support scrolling anymore, which is specified in xorg.conf
[06:17] <Ng> stbrenner: hmm, maybe it's an Xv problem/bug then
[06:17] <PPower> Jemt: Very odd. I have no idea why
[06:17] <Jemt> PPower: It worked before I created the new session as described in Method A
[06:17] <Jemt> Anyone else ?
[06:18] <PPower> Jemt: If in doubt. dont play with it ;)
[06:18] <stbrenner> Ng, could 915resolution have anything to do with it
[06:18] <nightcoder> maybelle: sudo apt-get install libsmbclient
[06:18] <Ng> stbrenner: what's 915resolution?
[06:18] <avis> i'm running XGL but it took me like 4 hours of tinkering
[06:18] <babo> I can't su up to root from my bash terminal ? ... what's the story ?
[06:18] <nightcoder> if its already installed we will to know :)
[06:18] <stbrenner> Ng, i had to install it to get my resolution to 1280 x 800
[06:18] <amodlin> Anyone know why certain features of XGL are working yet some are not? Such as, I can use the cube switch but not transparency, even though it is enabled.
[06:18] <shady> Chinese ,??
[06:18] <Ng> stbrenner: ah. hmm. I wouldn't have thought so, but I'm not sure really
[06:18] <mwe> !tell babo about root
[06:19] <buzzed> what is XGL all about?
[06:19] <Ng> #ubuntu-xgl
[06:19] <TiG4> troytroy: Yep, irssi here.
[06:19] <stbrenner> Ng, is there anything i can do other than submit a bug report?
[06:19] <utopiah> hi
[06:19] <maybelle_> its already in the newest version
[06:19] <lastnode> hi utopiah
[06:19] <TiG4> troytroy: You?
[06:19] <avis> its a fancy 3d workspaces with alot of features
[06:19] <roc> btw I have been hearing stuff about xgl: you can't run any other opengl apps when it is running, is this true?
[06:19] <Ng> stbrenner: possibly search ubuntuforums.org and/or google, or ask again here a bit later and see if anyone else knows :)
[06:19] <gomek> Anyone have any idea how to enable a screensaver on the gdm login screen?
[06:19] <nightcoder> maybelle: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[06:19] <utopiah> hi lastnode
[06:19] <nightcoder> maybelle: same thins
[06:20] <babo> mwe: thanks, it's not a direct login. I've logged in and am working from my bash prompt ?
[06:20] <Ng> avis: she? guess again ;)
[06:20] <avis> oops
[06:20] <dr_willis> gomek:  could look at that gdm config file and see all the options in there. Not all of them have a 'gui' front end setting
[06:20] <mwe> babo: read the page it refers to
[06:20] <avis> sorry Ng !
[06:20] <utopiah> hey, got a problem ... someone told me to install easyubuntu, but then i was told it's crap, how can i remove that stupid thing that doesn't want to be removed?
[06:20] <lastnode> stbrenner, repeat please?
[06:20] <mwe> babo: use sudo for a single root command or sudo -i to get a root shell
[06:21] <babo> mwe: ok thanks ...
[06:21] <stbrenner> lastnode,  am trying to get my video to play back correctly. Whenever I play a video (i've tried DVDs, mpgs, and wmvs), I get the picture...however it is really really bright. It doesn't look how it is supposed to look at all. I would describe it as having the brightness and contrast too high
[06:21] <troytroy> TiG4, yes sorry ust went to get some food from kitchen
[06:21] <dr_willis> utopiah:  ive heard of very few problems with easyubuntu,  now 'automatix' is a real annoyance.
[06:21] <TiG4> troytroy: nice, you using irssi remotely?
[06:21] <stbrenner> lastnode, also, it looks fine in the thumbnail icon on my desktop...it's only when i play it that i get the bright picture
[06:21] <lastnode> stbrenner, hrm, that's a first. have you tried different players? xine/vlc/mplayer ?
[06:22] <nena> ola
[06:22] <stbrenner> lastnode, aye
[06:22] <utopiah> dr_willis, what is automatix? i'm afraid the system is not going to be happy after upgrades
[06:22] <avis> there is no end of people needing help !
[06:22] <troytroy> TiG4,  remotely?
[06:22] <avis> ehheehhehe
[06:22] <nena> heloo
[06:22] <lastnode> stbrenner, only video output? all file formats?
[06:22] <avis> i'm goin' nuts
[06:22] <TiG4> troytroy: nevermind :)
[06:22] <TiG4> troytroy: How come your using irssi instead o f Xchat lets say
[06:22] <dr_willis> utopiah:   automatix is a 'bad' script to auto-do things.. Easyubuntu is a much better done one.
[06:22] <nena> hello
[06:22] <KevinIN72> ubuntu never game me the option to set up root what is the defaults??
[06:22] <stbrenner> lastnode, like i said, i've tried mpg, wmv, and a couple of dvds
[06:22] <nena> hello
[06:22] <dr_willis> utopiah:  ive had no issues with easyubuntu the few times ive tested it.
[06:22] <nena> hello
[06:22] <utopiah> avis, sorry :P
[06:23] <avis> utopiah, why ?
[06:23] <KevinIN72> gave*
[06:23] <mwe> !tell KevinIN72  about root
[06:23] <TAIS> ola karlos
[06:23] <avis> utopiah, be definition, i am nuts, i'm mentally disabled :)
[06:23] <lastnode> stbrenner, sorry mate, that's really baffling. :o
[06:23] <mwe> KevinIN72: read /msg from ubotu (and the link it points to)
[06:23] <troytroy> TiG4,  like terminal programs, makes me feel bit nerdy :)
[06:23] <nena> ola
[06:23] <KevinIN72> mwe: thanks
[06:23] <Skip> Any python tkinter programmers out there?
[06:23] <utopiah> dr_willis, thanks ... just hope the packages are not going to be a pain after a while. i was told it was likely to break the system
[06:23] <avis> but i'll be darned if i'm not gonna give it my best shot at getting my ubuntu engineer cert
[06:23] <utopiah> avis, sorry for needing help :P
[06:23] <troytroy> TiG4,  bn u and me dont know anything
[06:23] <TiG4> troytroy: Yep. If you'd like, try BitchX
[06:23] <avis> actually i am helping
[06:23] <stbrenner> lastnode, i'll try a restart...it can do wonders sometimes
[06:24] <zandaa> hello
[06:24] <avis> i take meds, thats how i get help
[06:24] <zandaa> Zandaa back again :S
[06:24] <lastnode> stbrenner, good luck
[06:24] <dr_willis> utopiah:  i doubt if easyubuntu will break much, if anything. however it is a little out of date in some areas.
[06:24] <ziga_> does anybody know how to make to print it faster on Ubuntu, because my printer is very, very slow
[06:24] <zandaa> I'm having trouble setting up my compile-environment (am running Ubuntu 6.06-AMD64)
[06:24] <troytroy> TiG4,  ok also terminal based ?
[06:24] <avis> dr_willis, it would not execute for me on a updated system
[06:24] <KevinIN72> ok what is the code to give myself all privileges
[06:24] <TiG4> troytroy: yep, a bit easier to use than irssi
[06:25] <joaquinz> hi
[06:25] <avis> Kevin sudo -i
[06:25] <utopiah> dr_willis, thanks, it's kinda relieving :) i hope it's going to be ok. i'll have someone look at it
[06:25] <avis> in console ot terminal
[06:25] <nightcoder> KevinIN72: sudo -s -H
[06:25] <avis> or
[06:25] <joaquinz> i've trouble with Xgl and gdm
[06:25] <dr_willis> avis:  i noticed last i used it.. it had a check box for java.  which is now a simple apt-get install. :P
[06:25] <tahorg> TiG4: bitchx easier ?
[06:25] <troytroy> TiG4,  well like to learn the hard way
[06:25] <avis> joaquinz, me too and boy was i frustrated but i didn't give up
[06:25] <joaquinz> i've no trouble if i start Xgl with a script
[06:25] <jadacyrus> Anyone know of a cool place to download system sounds for gnome besides gnome-look.org ?
[06:25] <dr_willis> utopiah:  ubuntu is easier to reinstall then winedows i find. :P so its  no big deal either way
[06:25] <dr_willis> jadacyrus:  kde-look.org :P
[06:25] <utopiah> yeah, i was told so :P
[06:26] <jadacyrus> heh
[06:26] <reaper> avis: yeah i can't do anything :( every way i try to restart graphics it just stuffs up
[06:26] <joaquinz> but with gdm... it simplily freezes in the loading stage, it shows the wait cursos
[06:26] <reaper> fails*
[06:26] <joaquinz> cursor* but nothing else more
[06:26] <TiG4> tahorg: you dont think so?
[06:26] <joaquinz> any ideas??
[06:26] <TiG4> troytroy: You new to *nix?
[06:26] <avis> reaper, i'm guessing your lappy is not compatible
[06:26] <troytroy> TiG4,  yes
[06:26] <joaquinz> avis: do you know what i mean?
[06:26] <jcole> is there a gtk2 app similar to LinNeighborhood (gtk1) and smb4k (qt/kde) that lets you manage samba mount points?
[06:27] <tahorg> TiG4: irssi is way better
[06:27] <jcole> key word is *mount*
[06:27] <dr_willis> jcole:  i just run smb4k under gnome. :P
[06:27] <TiG4> tahorg: why do you say that?
[06:27] <avis> yes joaquinz ... i had to ditch the ubuntu documentation and use ubuntuforums help
[06:27] <SCOttlebut> All -- can I upgrade 5.10 to 6.06 in place, over the net, or must I burn a CD and boot it?
[06:27] <utopiah> dr_willis, good :D anyway the dapper version is brand new, so not many things installed. so it should be very easy and not very painful to reinstall
[06:27] <dr_willis> jcole:  there used to be some others, gnomba, is one.
[06:27] <troytroy> TiG4,  guess here user friendly is traded for power and total control
[06:27] <tahorg> TiG4: sorry for the troll, I'll stop here.
[06:27] <joaquinz> avis: did u have the same problem??
[06:27] <avis> no sir
[06:27] <avis> this rocked my world http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[06:27] <TiG4> troytroy: Whatchu mean?
[06:28] <joaquinz> avis okok
[06:28] <jcole> dr_willis: apt-cache search gnomba gave me nothing :/
[06:28] <avis> joaquinz dont be afraid to undo things.  i had to.
[06:28] <harisund> Could someone give me a quick howto on burning an ISO using the command line only using cdrecord command? I find its man page a bit difficult to understand?
[06:28] <KevinIN72> ok thanks
[06:28] <ziga_> does anybody know how to make to print it faster on Ubuntu?
[06:28] <dr_willis> jcole:  yep. not sure its even being maintained any more.
[06:28] <gnomefreak> harisund: try cdrecord --help
[06:29] <avis> harisund, uhm thats more difficult then me trying to read coptic
[06:29] <reaper> avis: dw, i just booted WHAX haahh
[06:29] <avis> actually i know people here can do it
[06:29] <reaper> thanks anyways man, appreciate it
[06:29] <troytroy> TiG4,  windows does almost evrything for the user but *nix the user edits config files ... bulids drivers
[06:29] <reaper> seya
[06:29] <avis> reaper cool !
[06:29] <harisund> gnomefreak that was quite helpful. Thanks a ton :) avis, what is more difficult?
[06:29] <joaquinz> avis: but the unbelivable thing is that xgl and compiz work perfectly
[06:29] <joaquinz> the only trouble i've is that i cant use gdm
[06:29] <jcole> dr_willis: that looks like a gtk1 app
[06:29] <avis> reading coptic.
[06:29] <TiG4> troytroy: Lol, thanks for the info.
[06:30] <dr_willis> jcole:  no idea. :P i dont worry about it. and i told ya i use smb4k :P time to hit freshmeat i guess
[06:30] <avis> is harder than creating a iso for mkisofs or whatever it is to do to iso a directory
[06:30] <fooman> is there a way i can re-get the init.d apache2 file?
[06:30] <fooman> i tried to reinstall apache but that didn't work
[06:30] <maybelle_> night
[06:30] <marlun> how can I see the files installed by a specific package?
[06:30] <maybelle_> are u stil der
[06:30] <harisund> fooman how did you reinstall apache2?
[06:30] <fooman> harisund cli
[06:30] <maybelle_> i have a question
[06:30] <maybelle_> nightcoder
[06:31] <maybelle_> after typing vi /etc/samba/user
[06:31] <nightcoder> maybelle: yes
[06:31] <erchache> what are differences between linux-image and linux-image-server?
[06:31] <harisund> marlun 'dpkg --listfiles packagename'
[06:31] <troytroy> TiG4,  so apart from "crtl + n" and "crtl + p"
[06:31] <erchache> i cant find information about this
[06:31] <maybelle_> i type at the terminal
[06:31] <nightcoder> maybelle: dont use 'vi' ... its console based text editor
[06:31] <harisund> fooman try 'sudo apt-get reinstall apache2-common
[06:31] <crimsun> erchache: different elevator (i/o scheduler), preempt is disabled, larger memory space supported by default, etc.
[06:32] <troytroy> TiG4,  how can i navigate swiftly thru views
[06:32] <nightcoder> maybelle: use gedit instead
[06:32] <tritium> marlun: also dpkg -L <packagename>
[06:32] <wastrel> juicy
[06:32] <crimsun> o/ tritium
[06:32] <TiG4> troytroy: Please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:32] <erchache> crimsun: where i can find detailed technical information about that?
[06:32] <fooman> harisund says invalid operation "reinstall"
[06:32] <maybelle_> im just following the website that uve gven me
[06:32] <tritium> hi crimsun :)
[06:32] <nena> ola
[06:32] <maybelle_> can u go there also at d site
[06:32] <maybelle_> and gve me a walk through pls....
[06:32] <maybelle_> guide me night pls
[06:32] <crimsun> erchache: the "detailed" technical info is in the kernel configuration/source code
[06:32] <marlun> harisund, tritium : thanks!
[06:32] <harisund> fooman ok purge it and then install it 'sudo apt-get --reinstall apache2-common' I think should work though
[06:32] <nightcoder> maybelle: I know ... but you can use gedit instead of vi
[06:32] <jonesy> anyone here an ubuntu usability guru?
[06:33] <nightcoder> gedit is graphical, vi is console ...
[06:33] <harisund> fooman I think there should be a '--' switch before reinstall. Did you try that?
[06:33] <jonesy> is there a chan for those?
[06:33] <fooman> harisund i just used the -f with it...
[06:33] <richard> anyone know about hard drives?
[06:33] <nightcoder> maybelle: but both are text editors
[06:33] <Spec> richard: well, i know there's one in my computer ...
[06:33] <maybelle_> after those lines the a vi
[06:33] <harisund> richard, go ahead and ask your question. Hopefully someone will be able to answer
[06:33] <richard> hdparm
[06:34] <maybelle_> it is said here it should contain two lines as follows:
[06:34] <nightcoder> maybelle: ?
[06:34] <richard> ive just switched on dma
[06:34] <maybelle_> username =
[06:34] <maybelle_> password =
[06:34] <wastrel> where do i go to check if a digital camera is compatible with linux/gthumb ?
[06:34] <fooman> harisund, when i use --reinstall says invalid operation apache2-common
[06:34] <wastrel> (before i purchase it)
[06:34] <richard> but im trying to streamline the drive
[06:34] <tanek> how do i chose to use gcc-3.4 instead of gcc-4.0 when compiling something?
[06:34] <utopiah> wastrel, can't you just plug it?
[06:34] <Spec> wastrel: http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html
[06:34] <harisund> fooman try these instead 'sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2-common' and 'sudo apt-get install apache2-common'
[06:34] <richard> how do i do it - list the settings and how do i know they are correct
[06:34] <nightcoder> maybelle: this will set your network without passwords ...
[06:35] <weedar> Hi! I want to install Dapper Drake, but need to know if my rt2500 wlan card will work during install so I can install from the Internet?
[06:35] <mwe> wasabi: if supports usb mass storage (almost all cameras do) it is
[06:35] <harisund> fooman sorry. I am not really familliar with the syntax of apt-get since I don't use apt-get over the command line. I use aptitude instead
[06:35] <maybelle_> ah i c
[06:35] <wastrel> thx spec
[06:35] <fooman> harisund, aptitude?
[06:35] <harisund> fooman, aptitude is just like apt-get, only smarter.
[06:35] <r0xoR> how can i get gnome to let me move from desktop to desktop when i hit the screen edge with my pointer while holding down a modifier key such as the windows key?
[06:35] <maybelle_> but u know what it really hard configuring this shared files :((
[06:35] <harisund> fooman, in aptitude I would have executed 'sudo aptitude reinstall apache2-common'
[06:36] <patrick_> anyone know to have programs start up when you log in?
[06:36] <harisund> patrick_ in gnome?
[06:36] <maybelle_> i really nid an experience here :((
[06:36] <fooman> harisund, i purge removed it
[06:36] <maybelle_> mr nightcoder thank you so much for the time and avis 2 :D
[06:36] <harisund> fooman that's fine. now you can just reinstall it and it will (hopefully) be fine
[06:36] <fuzzyhair> hello
[06:36] <maybelle_> but ah im really tired figuring this out :((
[06:36] <fooman> harisund now it says it depends on httpd or apache2 hehe
[06:36] <TrendKi||> hello every1
[06:36] <patrick_> yes
[06:36] <crimsun> patrick_: System> Preferences> Sessions
[06:36] <maybelle_> nid some beauty sleep sob
[06:36] <maybelle_> thank you so much
[06:36] <nightcoder> maybelle: one last thing
[06:36] <patrick_> ah okay thanks crimsun :)
[06:36] <maybelle_> yes?
[06:37] <harisund> fooman httpd shouldn't enter the picture anywhere. Ok just try this and tell me what you get 'sudo aptitude reinstall apache2 apache2-common'
[06:37] <ziga_> does anybody know how to make to print it faster on Ubuntu?
[06:37] <nightcoder> maybelle: you need to put 'sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.X netmask 255.255.255.0 up' on your boot scripts
[06:37] <nightcoder> on every machine :(
[06:37] <ziga_> I change the options to Draft in printing preferences, but it doesn't help much
[06:37] <fooman> harisund, i thnk its a good deal
[06:38] <hmpedersen> Hey all
[06:38] <maybelle_> in the terminal is that what you mean?
[06:38] <harisund> fooman were you successful?
[06:38] <nightcoder> maybelle: 'sudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh'
[06:38] <avis> ziga_, if its black and white set to greyscale
[06:38] <beerockxs> In what package would I search for a bug that's about miscolored buttons in Gnome?
[06:38] <R_engel> What coding is used by the given channel?
[06:38] <iGama> ppl where can i get the linux-image for amd64?
[06:38] <fooman> harisund, yeah the command initiated but no init.d for apache2 :(
[06:38] <alan|laptop> hi all
[06:38] <fuzzyhair> Can someone help me set up Valknut. I can share files, but I can't download them. I always get disconnected. Any suggestions?
[06:38] <iGama> and the headers for 2.6.15-23 ?
[06:38] <nightcoder> on the end, just before exit 0
[06:38] <ziga_> avid, I tried that but that doesn't help much
[06:38] <avis> iGama -- synaptic search kernel
[06:38] <hmpedersen> Does dapper include dvd player from clean install?
[06:38] <ziga_> the printing is stil very, very slow
[06:38] <nightcoder> you will add that command
[06:38] <crimsun> beerockxs: which icons specifically?
[06:38] <nightcoder> without sudo
[06:39] <erchache> crimsun: ah! ok....i need to download source code of dapper kernel no? :-P
[06:39] <gianluca> how can i check my ubuntu version?
[06:39] <iGama> avis its not there!
[06:39] <nightcoder> on each computer
[06:39] <beerockxs> crimsun: buttons in the normal gnome dialogs
[06:39] <slabby> hi
[06:39] <crimsun> erchache: no, you can use gitweb to browse
[06:39] <ziga_> I have HP 990-cxi, and i use hplip driver for 990c if that helps
[06:39] <beerockxs> are sometimes colored yellow or greenish or blue
[06:39] <maybelle_> ei night
[06:39] <avis> iGama it is so
[06:39] <crimsun> beerockxs: is it reproducible with a brand new user?
[06:39] <maybelle_> can u write it down again step by step
[06:39] <erchache> crimsun: gitweb?
[06:39] <harisund> fooman: ok forget everything you did so far, and just do these 2 commands one after the other: 1. sudo aptitude purge apache2 apache2-common 2. sudo aptitude install apache2
[06:39] <slabby> where is the network configuration stored on breezy?
[06:39] <nightcoder> without this, when you reboot network setup will not be ready to use
[06:39] <gianluca> how can i check my ubuntu version?
[06:39] <nightcoder> maybelle: ok
[06:39] <maybelle_> the things that i should write in the terminal
[06:39] <avis> oops
[06:39] <avis> no
[06:39] <maybelle_> pls
[06:39] <iGama> avis, amd64? whats that k7 k8 ?
[06:39] <crimsun> gianluca: lsb_release -r
[06:40] <iGama> i just see that for amd
[06:40] <nightcoder> sudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[06:40] <crimsun> iGama: k8
[06:40] <avis> you have to install the ia64 version
[06:40] <maybelle_> k
[06:40] <beerockxs> crimsun: it happens every now and then, I don't see a pattern with it. and it did happen with a new user account
[06:40] <nightcoder> before exit 0 (on the end of file) type:
[06:40] <iGama> what are your repositoris? i dont find that
[06:40] <avis> assuming you haven't
[06:40] <avis> if you have
[06:40] <alan|laptop> hi all
[06:40] <crimsun> beerockxs: then I doubt it's an icon issue, probably more of a gtk icon cache issue
[06:40] <gianluca> is possible to upgrade my distribution from 5.10 to drake?
[06:40] <nightcoder> ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.X netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[06:40] <avis> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:40] <slabby> where is the network configuration stored on breezy?
[06:40] <nightcoder> save the file, done
[06:40] <alan|laptop> has anyone been able to use a ARTEC dvb usb device with dapper ?
[06:41] <crimsun> erchache: http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-dapper.git;a=summary
[06:41] <beerockxs> crimsun: the gtk icon cache is used for ok buttons and stufF?
[06:41] <nightcoder> on every machine in your network
[06:41] <nightcoder> remember that 'X' is a number between 2 and 11
[06:41] <harisund> any luck fooman?
[06:41] <fooman> harisund, could of just told me them in one line hehe &&
[06:41] <thomas__> How can I fixe a value in the /sys FS
[06:41] <crimsun> beerockxs: it's used for everything in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/
[06:41] <gianluca> is it possible to upgrade my distribution from 5.10 to drake?
[06:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gianluca -about upgrade
[06:41] <ziga_> where is already the boot configuration file in Ubuntu?
[06:41] <ziga_> i can't seem to remember it
[06:41] <crimsun> ziga_: what do you mean by "boot configuration?"
[06:41] <fooman> harisund, nope init.d is still not there for apache2
[06:41] <gianluca> sorry?
[06:41] <slabby> ubotu tell slabby about upgrade
[06:42] <ziga_> I mean like boot.ini for windows
[06:42] <TPC> hello. my dad is having problems with his ubuntu box, and I'm gonna try to ssh into it and see the problem for myself and try to fix it. So have have some questions about the remote assistance thingy built into ubuntu. 1. when go into the remote desktop preferences I see that it lists port 0. wtf is up with that? The normal user isn't allowed to use port 0, only ports > 1023. And if it will list port 0 on his box too, how will he know what port to
[06:42] <grogoreo> hi
[06:42] <alan|laptop> usbtest 1-1:1.0: EZ-USB device <-- usbtest registers the device, not dibusb... and i don't understand why/how to change that...
[06:42] <harisund> fooman ok wait. I think your problem is different. What exactly are you searching for that is not there?
[06:42] <ziga_> crimsun, i mean like boot.ini for windows
[06:42] <avis> ziga what bootloader are you using ?
[06:42] <ziga_> GRUB
[06:42] <grogoreo> will Vim7 go into Dapper or do you have to wait until edey eft?
[06:42] <crimsun> ziga_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:42] <gianluca> which is the command?
[06:42] <avis> then what is grubs configuration file ?
[06:42] <ziga_> ty
[06:42] <gnomefreak> ziga_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:42] <fooman> harisund, you know how you can start restart and stop apache with /etc/init.d/apache2 stop etc..
[06:42] <ziga_> ty all
[06:42] <slabby> where is the network configuration stored on breezy?
[06:42] <gnomefreak> avis: same as above
[06:42] <fooman> harisund, well the file isn't there
[06:42] <avis> yes
[06:42] <tritium> slabby: /etc/network/interfaces
[06:42] <avis> i'm sorry
[06:43] <alan|laptop> ziga_, what do you want to configure ?
[06:43] <harisund> fooman You mean /etc/init.d/apache2 is itself not there?
[06:43] <nightcoder> slabby: /etc/network/interfaces
[06:43] <avis> the way he phrased that passage
[06:43] <slabby> tritium: thanks
[06:43] <fooman> harisund that is correct
[06:43] <slabby> nightcoder: thanks :D
[06:43] <harisund> the /etc/init.d/apache2 comes with apache2-common. Try doing 'dpkg --list | grep apache2' and see if apache2-common shows up?
[06:43] <SCOttlebut> All -- can I upgrade 5.10 to 6.06 in place, over the net, or must I burn a CD and boot it?
[06:43] <gnomefreak> SCOttlebut: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[06:43] <crimsun> SCOttlebut: either
[06:44] <tritium> SCOttlebut: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[06:44] <alan|laptop> SCOttlebut, you edit your source.list, and then just do a dist-upgrade
[06:44] <harisund> fooman, what happens when you do 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart'? I mean, what error do you get?
[06:44] <fooman> harisund, invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache2 not found.
[06:44] <avis> ziga_, to update grub just update-grub after changes to grub.lst but remember that the single # entries count towards your configuration
[06:45] <zenithsglint> I changed my screen name, so I want to change my log in name and my home name and stuff, how would I go about doing that?
[06:45] <gnomefreak> alan|laptop: why do that insead if using the update manager that they made for that reason
[06:45] <mattikoo> Thank you for help with xfs repairing. I have only two problems. flash sounds and adobe reader plugin for firefox. I have changed /etc/firefoxrc to DSP="aoss"
[06:45] <maybelle_> night
[06:45] <maybelle_> ei night
[06:45] <nightcoder> maybelle: yes
[06:45] <ziga_> night
[06:45] <maybelle_> i wrote everthng down
[06:45] <harisund> fooman that is really surprising. can you post the output of 'dpkg --listfiles apache2-common' on Pasteboard or something?
[06:45] <maybelle_> final question
[06:45] <alan|laptop> gnomefreak, i didn't know that... thanks for info
[06:45] <gnomefreak> alan|laptop: anytime
[06:45] <fooman> harisund sure give me a sec
[06:45] <swim> hi
[06:45] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to build the latest version of ndiswrapper, when I try to use the command "fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules", I get the message "/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: debian/rules: No such file or directory"..any idea how I go about figuring out what it's looking for that it can't find?
[06:46] <troytroy> maybelle_, what time zone are u in
[06:46] <crimsun> gnomefreak: (some people use the server edition, which presumably wouldn't have a gnome environment, thus making update-manager a bit of a noop)
[06:46] <maybelle_> whaat is before exeit 0 (on the end of file) type blah blah
[06:46] <alan|laptop> anyone here ever had a ARTEC T1 working ?
[06:46] <maybelle_> eastern time
[06:46] <harisund> fooman that should be a huge listing. Instead list out 'dpkg --listfiles apache2-common | grep init.d'
[06:46] <troytroy> maybelle_, its 4:46pm here
[06:46] <gnomefreak> crimsun: true
[06:46] <beerockxs> crimsun: it looks like this: http://www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-brocksse4/Bildschirmfoto.png
[06:46] <mirak> I have the  Twenty four Hours season 4 DVD and a 5.1 sblive, but when I choose 5.1 I don't hear center channel with voices. any idea of what's wrong ?
[06:46] <maybelle_> sorry im from the phillipines
[06:46] <maybelle_> :D
[06:46] <fooman> harisund, odd says apache2-common isn't installed :\
[06:46] <mirak> that's with VLC I don't have the voices
[06:46] <nightcoder> maybelle: if you shutdown your computer now, all configurations that we made was lost
[06:47] <harisund> fooman aha !
[06:47] <maybelle_> its only 1:00 am here
[06:47] <maybelle_> OMG
[06:47] <crimsun> beerockxs: ugh, does it only occur with gtk icons?
[06:47] <harisund> fooman did you do 'sudo aptitude install apache2-common' ??
[06:47] <fooman> harisund i am now
[06:47] <^Nikos> hello
[06:47] <beerockxs> crimsun: as far as i can see, yes. but not regularly, and with different wrong colors
[06:47] <^Nikos> do you ahve any diea why gdmsetup crashes?
[06:47] <harisund> fooman typically 'sudo aptitude install apache2' itself should have brought along apache2-common
[06:47] <nightcoder> when you add that command to bootmisc.sh script, every time you boot your computer that command will be run
[06:47] <^Nikos> i get errors  liek this
[06:47] <^Nikos>   Failed to connect to socket, sleep 1 second and retry
[06:47] <^Nikos>   Trying failed command again.  Try 2 of 5.
[06:47] <^Nikos>   Failed to connect to socket, sleep 1 second and retry
[06:48] <beerockxs> crimsun: it goes away when I mouse-over the buttons
[06:48] <fooman> harisund, i know its oddd
[06:48] <zenithsglint> I need to change my screen name login and home like... /home/azurehuesofblue to /home/zenithsglint... how do I do that?
[06:48] <oezguer> Hi, i have a logitec web camera but it doesnt work at Amsn, what sould i do?:(
[06:48] <utopiah> ~
[06:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ^Nikos asbout pastebin
[06:48] <R_engel> What coding is used by the given channel?
[06:48] <nightcoder> maybelle: insert that command into bootmisc.sh and be happy :)
[06:48] <^Nikos> whats does all these errors mean?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ^Nikos about pastebin
[06:48] <crimsun> beerockxs: yeah, that sounds like an icon cache issue, but it may involve your video driver
[06:48] <suicida> stop highlighting me!!!
[06:48] <SCOttlebut> tritium, following the wiki, I get stuck because it tells me about the upgrade, but does not give me the option to do it!
[06:48] <maybelle_> what the program again night
[06:48] <pppoe_dude> is gpass secure/mature enough?
[06:48] <nightcoder> gedit
[06:48] <fooman> harisund muahhaha thanks it is there now
[06:49] <hmpedersen> I have serious problems with the dapper disc..
[06:49] <nightcoder> sudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[06:49] <J_P> hey all, What I do to solv this problem : root@neo:~# dpkg --configure -a
[06:49] <J_P> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[06:49] <J_P> Aborted
[06:49] <harisund> fooman hehe.. funny though. never mind
[06:49] <maybelle_> troytroy y are u asking for my timezone
[06:49] <maybelle_> what the program again night
[06:49] <oezguer> Hi, i have a logitec web camera but it doesnt work at Amsn, what sould i do?:(
[06:49] <fooman> harisund, what? i have something for you to check out though its a bit odd...
[06:49] <nightcoder> before exit 0
[06:49] <nightcoder> add
[06:49] <beerockxs> crimsun: so against what package should I report a bug?
[06:49] <harisund> fooman, yes?
[06:49] <nightcoder> ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.X netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[06:49] <grndslm> how do i disable gdm?
[06:49] <fooman> harisund, http://pastebin.com/760102
[06:49] <maybelle_> aw i mean the application that im gonna use sorry night
[06:49] <swim> ive been running dapper, do I need to reinstall now that 6.06 is released?
[06:49] <nightcoder> replace X for a number between 2 and 11 (a differente number for each computer)
[06:49] <nightcoder> done
[06:50] <hmpedersen> Can anyone tell me why the dapper disc doesn't work when burned on a high quality cd with a cutting-edge philips dvd writer?
[06:50] <avis> bad download
[06:50] <avis> did you check md5sum ?
[06:50] <slabby> is it better to update using update manager or by changing sources?
[06:50] <troytroy> maybelle_, yes cos u said goodnight
[06:50] <harisund> fooman I am guessing that is probably because somewhere in the configuration files of apache, there is mentioned a directory that doesn't exist'
[06:50] <hmpedersen> Redownloaded 3 times
[06:50] <usuario> uno
[06:50] <linkd> hmpedersen: How did you buy it? Did you use "special" burner software for ISOS?
[06:50] <avis> did you check md5sum ?
[06:50] <maybelle_> ei night :(( what is the program again/application that im gonna use
[06:51] <fooman> harisund, its all default sites-available etc..
[06:51] <usuario> que pasa aqui
[06:51] <hmpedersen> linkd, I use nero
[06:51] <harisund> fooman do you recollect having deleted any directories? again that shouldn't really affect anything since we purged and reinstalled. Are you sure you 'purged' and not just 'removed' ?
[06:51] <crimsun> beerockxs: you need to ask for more info in #ubuntu-desktop
[06:51] <linkd> hmpedersen: The burn image tool?
[06:51] <nightcoder> maybelle: gedit
[06:51] <hmpedersen> linkd yeah
[06:51] <oezguer> How can i install my logitech webcamere to use at Amsn????
[06:51] <crimsun> beerockxs: (I don't want to tell you the wrong srcpkg)
[06:51] <beerockxs> ok crimsun
[06:51] <avis> usuario, #ubuntu-es
[06:51] <grndslm> anybody know how to disable gdm?  i'd like to boot into text only
[06:51] <nightcoder> maybelle: use gedit instead of vi always
[06:51] <linkd> hmpedersen: I mean, you didnt just copy all the files into a project and burn the files. You actually used something that understood how ISOs worked?
[06:51] <harisund> fooman hey hang on. I think I know what could be another bug. Can you post the output of 'sudo netstat -plant | grep LISTEN' somewhere?
[06:51] <J_P> root@neo:~# apt-get -f install return for me this :  dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[06:51] <J_P> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly. Anyone know how to solve ?
[06:51] <fooman> harisund yes i'm positive
[06:51] <maybelle_> but my terminal is not working  :((
[06:52] <crimsun> J_P: pastebin the output from ``dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii''
[06:52] <slabby> is it better to update using update manager or by changing sources?
[06:52] <fooman> harisund its listening on 80...
[06:52] <nightcoder> grndslm: you can remove simbolic link from rc2.d
[06:52] <hmpedersen> linkd, I never just copy files. I always go to "Recorder" > "Burn Image" and give it the iso
[06:52] <maybelle_> dont worry night i think i can handle this now
[06:52] <J_P> crimsun: ok
[06:52] <harisund> What is fooman? Apache itself?
[06:52] <swim> ive been running dapper, do I need to reinstall now that 6.06 is released?
[06:52] <fooman> harisund, http://pastebin.com/760111
[06:52] <usuario> que es espaol
[06:52] <nightcoder> grndslm: sudo rm -f /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[06:52] <crimsun> swim: no, just update && upgrade
[06:52] <hmpedersen> swim, just update
[06:52] <fooman> harisund yeah only apache2
[06:53] <don-o> usuario: #ubuntu-es
[06:53] <linkd> hmpedersen: Good, hmm, what happens when you try to root from it?
[06:53] <lnostdal> swim, no .. just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade as usual
[06:53] <maybelle_> i've written everythng in a paper whehehe =p thanks again night sleeping time lolz
[06:53] <swim> ok thanks crimsun hmpedersen
[06:53] <linkd> *boot
[06:53] <nightcoder> grndslm: or change 'S' on the name to 's'
[06:53] <grndslm> nightcoder, thanks....i actually just thought about deleting gdm....
[06:53] <nightcoder> maybelle: good night
[06:53] <slabby> is it better to update using update manager or by changing sources?
[06:53] <grndslm> i don't need it on a mythtv backend anyway
[06:53] <hmpedersen> linkd, I'm trying to reburn it now.. Well it comes to boot menu, starts bootin, freezes and then the disc doesn't work anymore
[06:53] <hmpedersen> swim, np
[06:53] <harisund> fooman that's really funny :( ?? The only thing I am able to think of is probably you tried to run it without sudo perhaps?
[06:53] <grndslm> i wasn't sure if i could actually delete it or not
[06:54] <nightcoder> slabby: update-manager
[06:54] <linkd> hmpedersen: Thats.. odd. I've never heard of that happening before.. so.. I guess I'm useless
[06:54] <fooman> harisund, no i did hmmm... its a bit tricky i may say myself
[06:54] <hmpedersen> A piece of advise to all: When burning a dvd, remove your glass before disc ejects..
[06:54] <slabby> nightcoder, thanks
[06:54] <nightcoder> grndslm: yes, you can delete
[06:54] <J_P> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/760116
[06:55] <hmpedersen> linkd, well. I had problems with breezy (amd64) downloaded too. Getting the discs from shipit solved that problem..
[06:55] <avis> mgorbach, oh my gosh you are from nist.gov !
[06:55] <carlosj> c
[06:55] <crimsun> J_P: ``sudo apt-get -f install''
[06:55] <mgorbach> can someone please help me get xgl installed?
[06:55] <mgorbach> yep
[06:55] <crimsun> mgorbach: #ubuntu-xgl
[06:55] <dr_willis> !xgl
[06:55] <fooman> harisund i think its working properly now
[06:55] <ubotu> it has been said that xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[06:55] <fooman> harisund thanks a lot for your help
[06:55] <harisund> fooman this gets more and more scary every time. What did you do?
[06:55] <markgrif> Happy days. I upgraded to 686 kernel. Now my laptop is a speed demon. I wonder why Dapper didn't install it to begin with?
[06:56] <avis> mgorbach, the best advise i can give you is this:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[06:56] <crimsun> markgrif: because not every machine is 486-class or higher
[06:56] <fooman> fooman, all i did was stop it and start it up again it might of had the process running from the old apache?
[06:56] <harisund> fooman oh good point.
[06:56] <hmpedersen> Hmm.. Never noticed the "Check CD for defects" before.. Gonna try that now
[06:56] <mgorbach> iv run the methods but im getting a problem i cant fix
[06:56] <avis> gdm into gnome normally then type thefuture via terminal
[06:56] <skript> i'm dist-upgrading from breezy to dapper (with apt-get) the upgrade ends with an error 'Errors were encountered while processing xscreensaver ... .deb' ... anyway to resolve this ?
[06:56] <harisund> fooman I will keep that in mind for next time. Awesome !
[06:56] <lAN^pARTY> hello everyone
[06:57] <lAN^pARTY> anyone sources list for new ubuntu
[06:57] <fooman> harisund, know by any chance what the package is where you can use php5 but php4 for phpmyadmin?
[06:57] <markgrif> It might have fixed my wireless error messages too. still testing
[06:57] <J_P> crimsun: I have equal error, but but i remove ( apt-get remove python-subversion) and now working ok
[06:57] <slabby> what do I need to be able to run my php scripts?
[06:57] <J_P> crimsun: if I try install python-subversion  I have that problem
[06:57] <wastrel> i like python
[06:57] <harisund> fooman, phpmyadmin simply uses whatever version of php you have already installed. All you need to do is install php5 first (before installing phpmyadmin) and then instsalling phpmyadmin
[06:58] <lee_> Hello
[06:58] <magical_trevsky> hi, I'm trying to use the command 'grep so.me.ip access.log', but how would I specify more than one thing to search for in the same query
[06:58] <thomas__> How can i fix a value in /sys/class/firmware/timeout ?
[06:58] <harisund> fooman remember however, purging phpmyadmin is a real pain.
[06:58] <magical_trevsky> like an OR operator sort of thing?
[06:58] <slabby> what do I need to be able to run my php scripts? (it is an IRC bot if that helps)
[06:58] <d34db14ck> how can i run rpm ? does ubuntu have a package manager?
[06:58] <fooman> harisund, i thought that there wasn't a package yet realesed for phpmyadmin to work with php5
[06:59] <crimsun> J_P: pastebin ``dpkg -D3773 -i /var/cache/apt/archives/python-subversion_1.3.1-3ubuntu1*deb''
[06:59] <fooman> harisund, but yet only a mod for php4 to work with phpmyadmin
[06:59] <factorx> d34db14ck, package manager for ubuntu is apt-get
[06:59] <harisund> fooman on dapper?
[06:59] <jani_> d34db14ck, i think you can convert that to .deb using alien
[06:59] <fooman> harisund i think the package was lib-mod-php4 or something similar
[06:59] <avis> d34db14ck, if its not comlicated you can use alien to convert to .dev and install with dpkg -i _.deb
[06:59] <fooman> harisund nope i'm on breezy 5.1
[06:59] <nightcoder> d34dbbl4ck: yes, ubuntu have a package manager. Read about synaptic
[06:59] <d34db14ck> OMG i'm wasted :P
[06:59] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: i would look for a deb or tar alien will do .rpms but its eh doesnt always work
[07:00] <Kwong> hi could any1 help me pls
[07:00] <harisund> fooman ok firstly phpmyadmin has nothing to do with php4 or php5. It's a package that simply put, displays webpages using php. That means you need to have php installed on your system
[07:00] <jtd> can someone explain to me why ifup is pretending my wireless card doesn't exist?
[07:00] <nightcoder> Kwong: whats your problem
[07:00] <Kwong> nightcoder: my bro just did a stupid thing ever, chmod 000 /
[07:00] <harisund> fooman phpmyadmin needs atleast php4. If you have no php on your system, it will install php4. If it detects the prescence of php5 it will not install any php and nsimply install the phpmyadmin package only
[07:00] <fooman> harisund yes i know that but it was a while back ago when i first installed all of this where i had to do that
[07:00] <lee_> Hi, can someone help me configure XGL? I've been working on it for about 45 minutes
[07:00] <d34db14ck> ok i appreciate the help but i don't really understand, on short- can i run rpm without getting any progrs from the net?
[07:00] <Kwong> nightcoder: i cant access any thing now
[07:00] <jtd> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[07:00] <nightcoder> Kowng: it was logged in as 'root' ?
[07:00] <factorx> jtd, maybe the needed modules are not loaded?
[07:00] <gnomefreak> lee_: try in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:01] <traumatic> I just installed ubuntu and somehow managed to put it on a 2 GB partition, and so I have a 70 GB partition as well.  I want to combine the two of them into a single partition, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that.
[07:01] <lee_> OK thanks.
[07:01] <J_P> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/760133
[07:01] <jtd> factorx: the modules are loaded fine, I'm USING the interface right now to talk to you :)
[07:01] <Kwong> nightcoder: yes
[07:01] <hmpedersen> No defects on the disc..
[07:01] <avis> d34db14ck, alot of rpms have been repackaged for ubuntu as deb's
[07:01] <nightcoder> Kwong: God ... Its really bad
[07:01] <avis> apt-get install chkrootkit -- etc
[07:01] <yopb> hi,,,can someone give an opinion about the music of finnish band called bleak.. http://www.bleakmusic.com/e-card/
[07:01] <Kwong> nightcoder: but i cant sudo, or anything
[07:01] <factorx> jtd, that's pretty funny, so what's the problem if everything works? ;)
[07:01] <harisund> fooman if you want php5, just go ahead and install php5.
[07:01] <crimsun> J_P: no, I need /all/ the output. Don't omit any of it.
[07:01] <jtd> but when the system starts, it doesn't ifup the interface, presumably because ifup says that --^
[07:01] <wastrel> traumatic:  easiest just to reinstall, and repartition during the install process
[07:01] <d34db14ck> avis: ok so instead of getting rpm i should search for deb
[07:01] <nightcoder> Kwong. you will need to login as root
[07:02] <avis> no d34db14ck
[07:02] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: yes what package is it
[07:02] <jtd> factorx: I have to manually run dhclient on the interface in order to get it to pick up an IP Address
[07:02] <nightcoder> try sudo -s -H
[07:02] <kermitX_> fooman: when i installed phpmyadmin on top of php4; i used aptitude.. and during selection it deselected php4 for some reason. going back to that package and "re-selecting" it, then proceeding with the install of phpmyadmin worked. i have phpmyadmin working fine with php4 and mysql 4.1.
[07:02] <fooman> harisund alright i'll see how it goes... thanks you have been very helpful... anyways know of a good guide or way of chrooting apache2 for virtual hosting?
[07:02] <d34db14ck> gnomefreak: it's xmms
[07:02] <Kwong> nightcoder: everythign just permission denied
[07:02] <avis> d34db14ck, you can get what you need from the repositories and it'll install it for you or use synaptic a GUI to find what you are looking for and install itg
[07:02] <avis> it
[07:02] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:02] <avis> ubuntu rocks man !
[07:02] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: its in the repos
[07:02] <J_P> crimsun: ok
[07:02] <Krpano> can someone tell me if its possible to change the Ubuntu meni icon on the menu bar ?
[07:02] <gnomefreak> !xmms
[07:02] <ubotu> xmms is, like, totally, to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:03] <s|k> Krpano: it is possible
[07:03] <nightcoder> Kwong ... can you boot you system in 'single' mode
[07:03] <d34db14ck> gnomefreak ok got it thanx
[07:03] <gnomefreak> !info xmms
[07:03] <Kwong> nightcoder: how could i do it?
[07:03] <fooman> harisund, i tried some guide before and thats what screwed up my apache setup in the first place heh
[07:03] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[07:03] <harisund> fooman now you have gone over my head. I am just a small time guy having apache and php on my system. :( Someone might be able to help you out. Though I would really suggest you go to some place like apache's own IRC channels or some 'better' documentation than me :)
[07:03] <Krpano> s|k , can you tell me how ?
[07:03] <nightcoder> Under grub, type 'e' to edit the line
[07:03] <jtd> if I go into the Network Settings application in System it says eth0 is not configured.  except it IS configured.
[07:03] <nightcoder> then, add 'single' to end of grub line
[07:03] <jani_> lee_, check this out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090
[07:03] <fooman> harisund, i thought you were leet lol
[07:04] <Kwong> nightcoder: oh ok i will try
[07:04] <lucky9> hey mensen
[07:04] <harisund> fooman hehe ..
[07:04] <Kwong> nightcoder: thank you
[07:04] <s|k> Krpano: no idea how, but I noticed different icon themes have different pictures, so go through the icon folders you have (in ~/.icons) and look for it
[07:04] <freezey> what are the file permissions to set where every1 can write to it it was like og+ something
[07:04] <freezey> write frmo the web
[07:04] <d34db14ck> !xmms
[07:04] <ubotu> xmms is, like, to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:04] <traumatic> wastrel:  Should I manually partition the drive during the install, i let it do it itself and I thought I allocated 100% though that may have been me allocating 100% to a secondary partition somehow
[07:04] <pppoe_dude> can i use gnome-keyring like kwallet?
[07:04] <fooman> harisund have you messed around much with configuring dhcpd?
[07:04] <Krpano> s|k , thx..ill take a look
[07:04] <s|k> Krpano: you'll probably be able to change by replacing the icon with a different image with the same name
[07:04] <wastrel> traumatic:  manual partition if you have an idea what you're doing.  it's not too hard with the graphical installer
[07:04] <harisund> fooman you mean the DHCP server? no only have had a look at dhcp client
[07:04] <lucky9> ik zoek iemand die mij kan vertellen hoe ik mp3 kan afspelen onder ubuntu
[07:05] <nightcoder> lucky9: ubuntu-de ?
[07:05] <oezguer> If you receive: IP-Restrict-NAT and you receive false in webcam wizard, that means your connection is firewalled. (does not send the IP);;; Without outer web-based configuration can i do something? is there a another way to fix my cam??
[07:05] <fooman> harisund, no i meant what i said the conf file for dhcpd such as connecting to whatever access point is open to your usage
[07:05] <jtd> !de
[07:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[07:05] <tr00st> was there someone a minute ago trying to get xgl working?
[07:05] <freezey> what is the CHMOD to set for people to be able to write to that DIR from the web... i want to give full access to it... and i am not lookin for 777
[07:05] <lucky9> desktop 5.10
[07:05] <jtd> does anyone know if there is a known problem with Intel 2200BG wireless chipsets?
[07:06] <oezguer> If you receive: IP-Restrict-NAT and you receive false in webcam wizard, that means your connection is firewalled. (does not send the IP);;; Without router web-based configuration can i do something? is there a another way to fix my cam for Amsn???
[07:06] <wastrel> that wasn't german
[07:06] <johnnyrusso> i like boobies
[07:06] <jtd> in terms of ifup playing nicely with it?
[07:06] <nightcoder> freezey: chmod a+rw
[07:06] <gnomefreak> johnnyrusso: not in here
[07:06] <wastrel> looks like dutch maybe
[07:06] <jtd> wastrel: I think it was Dutch
[07:06] <harisund> sorry fooman. Out of my range :(
[07:06] <d34db14ck> ok si i get xmms.rpm and run sudo apt-get install xmms. but where do i  copy the package?
[07:06] <wastrel> jtd:  great minds : ] 
[07:06] <jtd> but it's likely a Dutch person knows at least a little German :)
[07:06] <jtd> heh
[07:06] <avis> d34db14ck, just do this apt-get install xmms
[07:06] <r0xoR> hey yall i'm getting a weird error:
[07:06] <avis> done
[07:06] <r0xoR> The application 'gnome-panel' (/usr/bin/gnome-panel) wants to access the password for 'a_nautilus_ftpbookmark@ofmine' in the default keyring. [Deny]  [Allow Once]  [Always Allow] 
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please tell me aprogram that similar to teleport pro, so it can download pages fully
[07:06] <fooman> harisund, its ok hehe this is for my laptop using slackware 10.1 can't use ubuntu for everything ubuntu is a bit boring after you know so much
[07:06] <r0xoR> anyone know why that would happen?
[07:06] <Krpano> s|k , i have only cursors there...:(...i thought it would be possible to change it in the gconf-editor
[07:06] <d34db14ck> avis:k
[07:07] <r0xoR> no matter what i click it doesn't work
[07:07] <harisund> fooman I agree with you on that though
[07:07] <nightcoder> d34db14ck: if you want to install xmms, just type in a terminal: 'sudo apt-get install xmms'
[07:07] <fooman> harisund, i recommend not using fedora core 5 i've had many issues with that the partitioner in the install formatted the wrong hard drive and i specifically specified which one to use
[07:08] <oezguer> MY webcam doesnt work at Amsn cos routerfirewall :( can any body help me?  without router web-based configuration
[07:08] <Boglizk> I get some warnings when using: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list". I pasted them at http://pastebin.com/760144
[07:08] <simulcra> hello
[07:08] <lucky9> does any one know how to install plug ins for mp3 playback?
[07:08] <simulcra> how do i detect my external modem?
[07:08] <lucky9> or where to get them?
[07:08] <gnomefreak> fooman: not really our place to recomend or not another distro in here please thats a good way to start a dist war
[07:09] <nightcoder> lucky9: look for gstreamer-bad and gstreamer-ugly
[07:09] <oezguer> MY webcam doesnt work at Amsn cos routerfirewall :( can any body help me?  without router web-based configuration
[07:09] <Kwong> nightcoder: i'm logging in in single mode but still couldnt get it through
[07:09] <nightcoder> lucky9: Universe and Multiverse repos
[07:09] <fooman> gnomefreak, i wasn't saying anything i was just giving my opinion on my experiences with its usage
[07:09] <Kwong> nightcoder: i couldnt even make it to the command prompt
[07:10] <avis> well you did say ubuntu was boring when you know enough which is an opinion.
[07:10] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please tell me aprogram that similar to teleport pro, so it can download pages fully
[07:10] <dieman> is there an rss feed with the weekly newsletter?
[07:10] <nightcoder> Kwong: its really hard to say something if you cant do anything as root
[07:10] <d34db14ck> avis:E: Couldn't find package xmms. the name of the package is xmms-1.2.10-src.rpm
[07:10] <nightcoder> sudo doesnt work, right ?
[07:10] <stbrenner> how to i get service to startup (namely 955resolutin) to startup automatically via terminal?
[07:10] <Kwong> nightcoder: yes
[07:10] <Kwong> i meant no
[07:10] <Kwong> sudo deosnt work
[07:10] <avis> d34db14ck, this ubuntu we deal in ubuntu .debs not .rpms] 
[07:10] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: type sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:10] <fooman> avis, no bashing on ubuntu i just like to broaden my knowledge of other distros
[07:10] <johnnyrusso> how do you use a .deb file?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> johnnyrusso: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i save a page?
[07:11] <nightcoder> johnnyrusso: double click it
[07:11] <johnnyrusso> thanks
[07:11] <nightcoder> Click 'Install package' button
[07:11] <dman> dura: sorry I was on phone, yes the mic is not on mute, it works fine when I plug it in on the back but not in the front
[07:11] <stbrenner> MetaMorfoziS, in firefox?
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> fully
[07:11] <d34db14ck> gnome : it doesn't work. could not find package
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> with links
[07:11] <m68k> in the console you can install it with sudo dpkg -i filename.deb.
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> and linked images etc
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> and in a session
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> (cookie)
[07:11] <gnomefreak> nightcoder: only problem is gdeb isnt in breezy only in dapper
[07:12] <stbrenner> MetaMorfoziS, well in firefox you can do this by going to file > save page
[07:12] <gnomefreak> gdebi*
[07:12] <avis> fooman, yes i know but it was an opinion.  just an simple observation.  i'm actually hopeful that alot of developers will jump on ubuntu and help develop it now that its gained so much popularity
[07:12] <nightcoder> Kwong: Have you much files under that system (in your home dir)
[07:12] <d34db14ck> gnomefreak : it doesn't work. could not find package
[07:12] <fooman> can someone tell me why my apache2 setup isn't running correctly i'm trying to view a php script but its just trying to download the file instead of initiating the script
[07:12] <avis> troll ?
[07:12] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[07:12] <A-L-P-H-A> fooman: http.conf setup is wrong.
[07:12] <gnomefreak> avis: ?
[07:13] <nightcoder> gnomefreak: youre right. But Im trying to say gui-based steps when possible :)
[07:13] <MetaMorfoziS> stbrenner: no, it can't
[07:13] <Kwong> nightcoder: should blocking something like what my bro done just now
[07:13] <avis> i'm questioning d34db14ck status
[07:13] <MetaMorfoziS> it saves only the page that i'm on
[07:13] <Boglizk> Whats wrong? Should i worry? http://pastebin.com/760166
[07:13] <MetaMorfoziS> but i need al linked images, all links and other
[07:13] <fooman> A-L-P-H-A, it shouldn't be considering its the default config .....
[07:13] <A-L-P-H-A> fooman: double check your script program's installation proceed again to make sure you've set it up correct, and restart apache.
[07:13] <MetaMorfoziS> not only that page that shows
[07:13] <A-L-P-H-A> fooman: what type of scripting language?
[07:13] <gnomefreak> nightcoder: yeah i understand and ive been temped to say that but than they say well it doesnt work and i run in circles until they say im on breezy :(
[07:13] <d34db14ck> gnomefreak: where's the pastebin?
[07:14] <Gh0sty> hello
[07:14] <fooman> A-L-P-H-A, php5
[07:14] <Boglizk> pastebin.com
[07:14] <A-L-P-H-A> having an multimonitor xinerama ati issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1097290#post1097290
[07:14] <nightcoder> Kwong: Its really a hard question. I cant help you if we dont have a way to type super-user commands, sorry
[07:14] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell d34db14ck -about pastebin
[07:14] <A-L-P-H-A> fooman: you need to add a few lines to httpd.conf to get it to work, and then restart apache.
[07:14] <peterrus> hello
[07:14] <Kwong> nightcoder: my user is root isnt it?
[07:14] <hmpedersen> linkd same result now..
[07:14] <fooman> A-L-P-H-A, a few lines such as?
[07:14] <nightcoder> Kwong: no. Under ubuntu, root account is hidden ?
[07:14] <A-L-P-H-A> Kwong: only off the install CD.
[07:15] <A-L-P-H-A> fooman: read the install.txt file that comes with php5.
[07:15] <nightcoder> Kwong: oops, '?' doesnt stay heere
[07:15] <Boglizk> I need some info... Is this of any inportance or should i ignore it? http://pastebin.com/760166
[07:15] <lee_>  I've been trying to configure XGL on my computer for the past 45 minutes to no avail  I get the error /opt/fdor/bin/compiz : GLX_EXT_texture_frinpipmap is missing and  two others /opt/fdor/bin/compiz: Failed to manage screens: 0 /opt/fdor/bin/compiz: No managable screens found on display 1
[07:15] <fr33mind> Hi, I'm looking for the name of the module for Compaq scsi raid LC2 please?
[07:15] <dosio> Where can I find the Display settings in ubuntu? So that I can enable multiple monitors...
[07:15] <Kwong> nightcoder: is there anyway to get into the system without reinstall?
[07:15] <fooman> A-L-P-H-A, i didn't install php5 myself i just apt-get
[07:15] <d34db14ck> gnomefreak :k
[07:15] <peterrus> i heard that it is possible to let certain commands run automaticly when you connect a device (something with udev) now i want to automaticly run 2 commands (sudo bla bla) when i connect my pocketpc. (synce is already working)
[07:16] <Gh0sty> quick question: anyone here with an asus K8N4 running ubuntu server? Friend of me has problem when he installs 6.06 server it doesn't recognize his network cards and sata controller (he had the same problem with debian, but not with ubuntu 5.10)
[07:16] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: can you give me thelink it gave you after you hit send
[07:16] <A-L-P-H-A> fooman: then I don't know.  I install it manually.
[07:16] <d34db14ck> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15133
[07:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell lee_ -about xgl
[07:16] <fooman> A-L-P-H-A, hmms... what should i look for in the httpd.conf file though?
[07:16] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: ty brb looking
[07:16] <d34db14ck> gnomefreak: k
[07:16] <nightcoder> Kwong: yes ... but you will need root privileges
[07:16] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: make sure that file is still open please
[07:17] <amar-ze> is xubuntu on shipit?
[07:17] <lee_> Nobody is on the ubuntu-xgl channel :(
[07:17] <avis> d34db14ck,  enable universe and multiverse
[07:17] <dosio> Anyone? please.... I'm trying to find the display settings in ubuntu so that I can enable multiple monitors....
[07:17] <gnomefreak> amar-ze: no
[07:17] <nightcoder> fe33mind: cpqfc.o ???
[07:17] <Subhuman> amar-ze, no
[07:17] <MarcN> Anyone here running Ubuntu/Dapper on hp/cpq ProLiants?
[07:17] <d34db14ck> avis: no ideea
[07:17] <avis> d34db14ck, sudo -i, nano /etc/apt/source.list
[07:17] <peterrus> dosio: i think you need special drivers from your graphics card amnufacturer
[07:17] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: take the # away from the lines that start with deb http please and add the word multiverse to the end of the lines that end in universe
[07:18] <nightcoder> Kwong: If you can reinstall will be better. Kill your brother
[07:18] <A-L-P-H-A> fooman: http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.php. and "locate *.conf|less"
[07:18] <peterrus> i heard that it is possible to let certain commands run automaticly when you connect a device (something with udev) now i want to automaticly run 2 commands (sudo bla bla) when i connect my pocketpc. (synce is already working)
[07:18] <amar-ze> and in the future , what's the plan ?
[07:18] <dosio> ohhh... this is too complicated...
[07:18] <gnomefreak> amar-ze: dont know the future isnt here yet
[07:18] <hmpedersen> Great..  The disc won't install only boot a live system
[07:18] <J_P> crimsun: Wasn't possible paste taht long log in pastebin, so I put here : http://200.146.37.219/apache2-default/ubuntu/out.txt . next log logs is easy to copy in web now :-)
[07:18] <philstar> [dapper]  should I be seeing a line about clock being updated after "Configuring network interfaces"?
[07:18] <peterrus> dosio: yep, whats youtr graphics card brand/type?
[07:18] <amar-ze> heh
[07:18] <DarkRavenMixage> i have a problem with gaim.. i'm under a nat and i can't open ports.. the sends often fails or go max 2/3 kb/s... anyone can solve this??? (extra package or so)
[07:18] <Kwong> nightcoder: i would, fact that i just have hoary here, and it such a long way to upgrade to dapper via 512kbps connection
[07:18] <dosio> peterrus, I have an ATI 9700 pro
[07:19] <gnomefreak> amar-ze: kubuntu was around for a while it just started shipit for dapper
[07:19] <r0xoR> wow, anyone got a clue on my problem?
[07:19] <avis> Kwong its much better to download the final and then do fresh install. i've seen alot of broken things after succesful upgrade
[07:19] <nightcoder> Kwong: Do a clean install ...
[07:19] <DarkRavenMixage> gnomefreak do you have forgotten your crystal ball? LOL
[07:19] <peterrus> dosio: then it will be hard cuz ati support sucks on linux, go to ati.com and download the ati drivers. seek for tutorials about this
[07:19] <wastrel> i need to get 3daccel working :p
[07:19] <gnomefreak> DarkRavenMixage: ;) yep
[07:19] <amar-ze> gnomefreak : I don't like kde , just like you :)
[07:19] <d34db14ck> gnomefreak:  so the end will be universe multiverse?
[07:19] <dosio> peterrus, ok, thank you
[07:19] <Kwong> nightcoder: i dont have the CD, should i download it? or do the upgrading?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> amar-ze: i never said i didnt like it and this is moving too far offtopic
[07:20] <wastrel> dosio:  fglrxconfig has options for 2 monitor setup iirc
[07:20] <r0xoR> does nvidia have 64 bit drivers yet?
[07:20] <nightcoder> Download the CD ... go to ubuntu.com
[07:20] <peterrus> halp
[07:20] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: yes
[07:20] <blibbity123> k, ubuntu newb question here, I just installed gnome network manager and restarted, the network manager shows on the taskbar but says 'no devices have been found' but the regular built in network manger thing works fine, how might i remedy this?
[07:20] <dosio> I'll try it now
[07:20] <crimsun> J_P: ``apt-get --reinstall install python2.4-subversion''
[07:20] <avis> Kwong, i've observed enough to know that installing from source cd is best way
[07:20] <Kwong> yeah
[07:20] <peterrus> noone can tell me about the udev thing?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: when your done making changes if in nano hit ctrl+o than ctrl+x if not in nano save than close it
[07:21] <factorx> if I switch to my notebook's screen resolution (1280x800) everything looks crap. all windows and menus look 'broken'.
[07:21] <factorx> what can I do=
[07:21] <factorx> ?
[07:21] <DarkRavenMixage> gnomefreak today i've tried to configure xmms for 5.1 and i crashed it lol i had got to reinstall LOL
[07:21] <gnomefreak> d34db14ck: after that run sudo apt-get update
[07:21] <Kwong> i think that what i should do
[07:21] <Kwong> reinstall the whole thing again
[07:21] <peterrus> factorx: screenshots can be handy
[07:21] <amar-ze> anyone have pppoe-dhcp problems on dapper ?
[07:21] <Kwong> btw
[07:21] <nightcoder> Kwong: yes ...
[07:21] <J_P> crimsun: yes, now works the install!! The magic is that "--reinstall" ? what it do ?
[07:21] <wastrel> !tell dosio about ati
[07:21] <DarkRavenMixage> everyone gots problem on linux and usb modems
[07:21] <Kwong> when i intall vncserver
[07:21] <nightcoder> ama-ze: whats your problem with pppoe
[07:21] <Kwong> and do vncviewer
[07:21] <DarkRavenMixage> they are like cat and mouse
[07:22] <Kwong> it doesnt show up anything eventhough i got xstartup
[07:22] <factorx> peterrus, one minute, I'll upload one
[07:22] <blibbity123> k, ubuntu newb question here, I just installed gnome network manager and restarted, the network manager shows on the taskbar but says 'no devices have been found' but the regular built in network manger thing works fine, how might i remedy this?
[07:22] <d34db14ck> gnomefreak:  it won't let me save...read only
[07:22] <crimsun> J_P: it reinstalls
[07:22] <avis> sudo -i
[07:22] <peterrus> d34db14ck: use sudo
[07:22] <DarkRavenMixage> d34db14ck use the sudo command
[07:23] <lines> sudo
[07:23] <crimsun> J_P: apparently you encountered a db mismatch
[07:23] <lines> :))
[07:23] <avis> d34db14ck, sudo -i specificially
[07:23] <Boglizk> whats the -i for?
[07:23] <avis> proper root
[07:23] <J_P> crimsun: ahh ok! thanks for your help!
[07:23] <lee_> !tell lee_  about ati
[07:23] <Boglizk> proper root? O.o
[07:23] <amar-ze> nightcoder : conn. 'dies' every 2 hours (aprox. ) and I can't open any site , I can if I type IP of that site but can't thru host
[07:23] <crimsun> J_P: np
[07:23] <factorx> peterrus, http://www.rewler.de/pq/screen.png
[07:23] <d34db14ck> sudo in what? i edited the file NOT in a terminal
[07:23] <DarkRavenMixage> or login as root (but it's dangerous if you don't know linux well)
[07:23] <blibbity123> gah! anyone?
[07:23] <avis> d34db14ck, first time using linux ?
[07:23] <nightcoder> amar-ze: its a DNS-related problem
[07:24] <peterrus> factorx: lets seee
[07:24] <wastrel> blibbity123:  don't use gnome network manager... :/
[07:24] <nightcoder> amar-ze: check your /etc/resolv.conf
[07:24] <d34db14ck> avis: obviously :P
[07:24] <avis> you use a terminal
[07:24] <avis> ok no problem
[07:24] <blibbity123> wastrel: I need it because I need wpa
[07:24] <avis> no problem
[07:24] <DarkRavenMixage> amar-ze use eciadsl
[07:24] <avis> i'm weary of trolls
[07:24] <MarcN> Aha!, when installing Dapper on an older (maybe newer too) ProLiant, set the NOAPIC boot option.
[07:24] <avis> thats all
[07:24] <amar-ze> nightcoder : it's okay , there's a nameservers of my ISP ..
[07:24] <DarkRavenMixage> amar-ze search it via google it will configure your dns
[07:24] <lee_> If you know anything about Xgl please go to #ubuntu-xgl
[07:24] <Alacrit> e
[07:24] <amar-ze> DarkRavenMixage : will try
[07:25] <Boglizk> I need some info... Is this of any inportance or should i ignore it? http://pastebin.com/760166
[07:25] <peterrus> factorx: wow never seen that before :/ you should check if your screen can support this reesolution (use google) because i think yoou sync rates are too high or somethiing. i suggest a lower resolution
[07:25] <blibbity123> wastrel: unless there's some sort of other 'point and click' solution for wpa in dapper
[07:25] <DarkRavenMixage> i have a problem with gaim.. i'm under a nat and i can't open ports.. the sends often fails or go max 2/3 kb/s... anyone can solve this??? (extra package or so)
[07:25] <nightcoder> amar-ze: you can make a cron job ... just ping. It will prevent your connection to go down
[07:26] <d34db14ck> ok i'll check back later after i learn some for my exam tomorow. if ther's a chan for noobs pls tell me
[07:26] <factorx> peterrus, it's the native resolution of my notebook's display, it works in windows as well
[07:26] <avis> there is a package for wpa-psk in dapper
[07:26] <amar-ze> nightcoder : just ping ? ping anything or ..
[07:26] <Fujoor> hey people, i have 2 small questions, the first one is, how to i change my sources list so it doesnt want the cd everytime?
[07:26] <peterrus> factorx: then i have no idea, try installing the drivers?
[07:26] <wastrel> blibbity123:  i dunno - never needed wpa.  i tried that network manager deal and it doesn't seem to play nicely with ifconfig, so i stopped using it.
[07:26] <nightcoder> ping anything ... only to prevent connection down
[07:26] <nightcoder> ping every 10 minutes for example
[07:26] <richard_> i accidentally removed the file "/etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml" can i extract that file from somewhere to restore it?
[07:26] <nightcoder> send 5 packets to another 'internet' host will be sufficient
[07:27] <avis> i have to enter 63 characters when i setup my wpa-psk
[07:27] <nightcoder> pinc -c 5 google.com
[07:27] <wastrel> Fujoor:  edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the CD line
[07:27] <avis> fun
[07:27] <amar-ze> okay nightcoder will try that , I hope it 'will work ..
[07:27] <wastrel> Fujoor:  make a backup copy before you mess with it
[07:27] <nightcoder> amar-ze: let us to know if it solves your problem
[07:27] <Boglizk> Can anyone at least try help me?
[07:27] <peterrus> come one, who can tell me how to autorun commands at a udev connectiion?
[07:27] <Boglizk> :/
[07:28] <Fujoor> wastrel: thank you, with nano? what was the other editor called?
[07:28] <nightcoder> Boglizk
[07:28] <nightcoder> whats your problem
[07:28] <Boglizk> I need some info... Is this of any inportance or should i ignore it? http://pastebin.com/760166
[07:28] <DarkRavenMixage> i have a problem with gaim.. i'm under a nat and i can't open ports.. the sends often fails or go max 2/3 kb/s... anyone can solve this??? (extra package or so)
[07:28] <fr33mind> where is list of supported pci card for ubuntu?
[07:28] <wastrel> Fujoor:  nano would work - use -w to prevent line wrapping.  or use gedit, vim or any other editor... you'll have to use sudo too
[07:28] <nightcoder> Boglizk: its not important
[07:28] <DarkRavenMixage> i have a problem with gaim.. i'm under a nat and i can't open ports.. the sending of files often fails or go max 2/3 kb/s... anyone can solve this??? (extra package or so)
[07:28] <soundray> Boglizk: if you haven't got any trouble after that, ignore it.
[07:29] <nightcoder> Boglizk: gtk-related warnings almost always are not important :)
[07:29] <Boglizk> nightcoder, soundray, thanks
[07:29] <avis> Boglizk, is seldom can use gksudo for some reason
[07:29] <Boglizk> Thats something i should remember
[07:29] <blibbity123> avis: hmm, perhaps you could walk me through? I just looked for wpa psk on official and unspported repositories and didnt see anything though
[07:29] <Fujoor> wastrel: thank you, fixed ... and my other question is, how do install centericq? apt-get install centericq doesnt do it
[07:29] <brosio> hy
[07:29] <avis> let me look i saw the package mentioned the last 24 horus
[07:29] <Boglizk> I'll be back later to tell you how the update went
[07:30] <brosio> azureus doesn't work with the official package java1.5_06 from repository anyone has the same problem ?
[07:30] <wastrel> Fujoor:  centericq packages aren't in the main repository, they're in the universe repo.  you'll have to enable universe in your souces.list (either edit the sources.list file again, or use synaptic) and then  sudo apt-get update, then try to apt-get
[07:30] <ubuntuStud> brosio: works for me
[07:30] <amar-ze> nightcoder : addet to cronjob , will let you know in couple hours .)
[07:31] <wastrel> !info centericq
[07:31] <ubotu> centericq: (A text-mode multi-protocol instant messenger client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 4.21.0-2ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1250 kB, Installed size: 3604 kB
[07:31] <blibbity123> avisL I do have wpa supplicant installed, but I dont know exactly what it's doing for me right now, I know that in the default network manager thing for dapper I have no where to configure wpa though
[07:31] <Fujoor> wastrel:  ah thank you wastrel
[07:31] <nightcoder> amar-ze: ok
[07:31] <avis> wpa_supplicant
[07:31] <avis> blibbity123,
[07:32] <brosio> ubuntuStud: could u run javac -version ? i have java sdk15_06 from official repository
[07:32] <avis> wpa_gui
[07:32] <blibbity123> yeah I installed wpa_gui as well, now im lost as to what to do next
[07:32] <avis> the rest is history :)
[07:33] <avis> i haven't setup my wifi card yet
[07:33] <avis> even though it will be a few feet away from my router
[07:33] <avis> why ?  to learn.
[07:33] <ubuntuStud> java version "1.4.2"
[07:33] <ubuntuStud> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[07:33] <troytroy> anybody know of any pkg similar to photoshop or corel graphics
[07:34] <ubuntuStud> troy:  Gimp
[07:34] <wastrel> troytroy:  gimp is good, you might also want to check out inkscape, it's a vector graphics program.
[07:34] <brosio> ubuntuStud: it's different
[07:34] <soundray> !info gimp
[07:34] <ubotu> gimp: (The GNU Image Manipulation Program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.2.8-2ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 2739 kB, Installed size: 7736 kB
[07:34] <DuniaImpian> !info wpa
[07:34] <brosio> azureus doesn't work with the official package java1.5_06 from repository anyone that has dapper has the same problem ?
[07:35] <watson540> hrm, open office seems to be pretty limited in its web page creation for dummies
[07:35] <hmpedersen> Troy, here are rumors George Lucas has Adobe working on Photoshop for linux
[07:35] <avis> !tell wpa avis
[07:35] <soundray> DuniaImpian: !info works with package names only.
[07:35] <troytroy> ubuntuStud: hmm Gimp is cool alright but does not support advance graphics editing
[07:35] <wastrel> photoshop for linux would be good i suppose, but gimp is free :] 
[07:35] <ubuntuStud> hmpedersen: there are rumors that G.L. might make a good movie
[07:35] <mr_hus> I noticed ubuntu comes with locate. Is it used by anything by default?
[07:35] <avis> mr_hus, yes you do updatedb
[07:35] <avis> and then locate will find any file
[07:35] <bk__> does anyone here use Evolution for their email?
[07:35] <wastrel> locate is a shell command to find files quickly.
[07:35] <avis> its a database
[07:35] <troytroy> wastrel: hmm Gimp is cool alright but does not support advance graphics editing
[07:36] <DuniaImpian> soundray, oh ic. I thought it works like in #suse. LOL. thx 4 info
[07:36] <avis> whereis is similar
[07:36] <soundray> troytroy: yes, it does support practically every mode of graphics editing, layers, paths, the works.
[07:36] <hmpedersen> ubuntuStud, there are rumors all people might some day accept GL's masterpieces
[07:36] <spikeb> yes it does
[07:36] <wastrel> troytroy:  i don't know what that means :]   i just touch-up personal photos and scanned thingies.  total graphics novice...
[07:36] <mr_hus> avis: yes but i mean, is there an application using it or its just there for you to use? Does it index periodically already or that's up to you to configure?
[07:37] <denstark> I just have a quick question -- I go to system --> preferences --> sound, change my sound card from what it is now (intel 828) to my other card (esoniq) and then hit close, and it doesn't save my changes for some reason. anyone else getting this problem?
[07:37] <mr_hus> avis: i was wondering if the gnome deskbar was using it too... but from what i've read it's using python.
[07:37] <avis> i've had to do it manually i dont know about ubuntu but if it doesn't you can setup a cron job
[07:37] <xion`os2k> hey guys, i have a rather small question if anyone can help
[07:37] <bliss_> hi
[07:37] <hmpedersen> But official word is. They want to make the tv series on linux.. But they want to use adobe software including photoshop..
[07:37] <xion`os2k> hi bliss_
[07:37] <troytroy> wastrel: does is support ligthing, transparency etc
[07:38] <simulcra> hello, how do i detect my external modem? thanks
[07:38] <bliss_> somwone has sent me a zip files how to extract the contents please
[07:38] <hmpedersen> If the linux versions are ever made available to the general public is another matter..
[07:38] <soundray> bliss_: try unzip
[07:38] <troytroy> wastrel: turning a night pic into day that sort of editing
[07:38] <bliss_> xion`os2k hi
[07:38] <penguinwhoflew> quick question: it IS possible to open word docs on linux right?
[07:38] <denstark> Yes, penguinwhoflew
[07:39] <avis> openoffice, yes
[07:39] <denstark> openoffice.org will do the trick
[07:39] <penguinwhoflew> sweet
[07:39] <MarcN> penguinwhoflew: the vast majority, yes.
[07:39] <xion`os2k> ok, here's my problem, i just installed 6.06, and the problem didn't occur on 5.10, but my desktop is offset to the left, cutting of the edge of my screen
[07:39] <amar-ze> nightcoder : conn. just 'died' and now if I close conn. from chat I wont be able to connect again until I restart pppoe. Weird I chat now but can't open a thing
[07:39] <avis> xion`os2k, adjust monitor
[07:39] <denstark> xion`os2k: do you have any buttons on your monitor?
[07:39] <denstark> xion`os2k: thats what your going to have to mess with
[07:39] <thomas1234> hi, i am having a performance problem, but don't know what's wrong!! does someone wish to give me a helping hand??
[07:39] <xion`os2k> yeah, but when i reboot into windows, it keeps it off the the left
[07:39] <Oddinn> Hi!
[07:39] <hmpedersen> I hope i did not just hear what i just heard..
[07:39] <xion`os2k> i know, i said the dreaded "w" name :)
[07:39] <avis> thomas1234, ask question
[07:39] <denstark> Don't reboot into windows ;-)
[07:40] <nightcoder> amar-ze: when your connection 'die' look into resolv.conf to see if it changes
[07:40] <thomas1234> it's the same problem as http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148669
[07:40] <Oddinn> Can anybody help me with installation of additional ttf fonts to ubuntu?
[07:40] <ubuntuStud> thomas:  #viagra
[07:40] <xion`os2k> lol, unfortunaltely, i'm a game freak, and i can't get ffxi to run on nix yet
[07:40] <nightcoder> pppd is not running, right ?
[07:40] <ubuntuStud> jk
[07:40] <Stormx2> !midi
[07:40] <ubotu> I guess midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[07:40] <bright> hi! is there an application with which I can access the parallel port directly, by setting single pins?
[07:40] <leancalper> LTS
[07:40] <bk__> penguinwhoflew, if you've never used openoffice, know that it has multiple formats a file can be saved in like .odt.  Microsoft Word cannot open that.
[07:40] <xion`os2k> i thought there was some tool or command i could fire up to adjust the setting to move it to the right... but maybe i'm just goin crazy :)
[07:40] <amar-ze> nightcoder : Only this now  search lan
[07:40] <amar-ze> nameserver 10.0.0.138
[07:41] <amar-ze> and I am still here :)
[07:41] <amar-ze> weird
[07:41] <mwe_> bright: what do you want to do?
[07:41] <jtd> This is all rather impressive.
[07:41] <nightcoder> amar-ze: when your connection 'die', pppd stay running ?
[07:41] <watson540> does anyone know of a good app that will create a basic web page for me?
[07:41] <watson540> already tried openoffice..
[07:41] <troytroy> hi how do i scroll up messages in irssi
[07:41] <jtd> watson540: loaded question.  :)  What do you want to do?
[07:41] <amar-ze> nightcoder : yes , ifconfig shows ppp0
[07:42] <Oddinn> Can anybody help me with installation of additional ttf fonts to ubuntu?
[07:42] <nightcoder> amar-ze. change /etc/network/interfaces
[07:42] <watson540> not much, a background, a little text and a few pics maybe
[07:42] <bright> mwe_: I am a complete newbie to hardware programming and so on, so I just wanted to start lighting an LED through a parallel port... and wondered if there is a program with which I can set the different pins...
[07:42] <bliss_> soundray; thanks for unzip
[07:42] <bk__> Oddinn, do you have the font?
[07:42] <denstark> alright how about this question -- does anyone know if it is possible to set the default sound card in ubuntu (6.06) from the command line
[07:42] <nightcoder> amar-ze: put your 'right' DNS servers instead of local ip (showed before)
[07:42] <Oddinn> Yes.
[07:42] <eternale1> troytroy: page up?
[07:42] <Oddinn> bk__:
[07:42] <Oddinn> yes
[07:42] <jtd> watson: probably the easiest way to do that is just type up the html yourself, to be honest.  HTML editors will just add a lot of extra garbage you don't need.
[07:42] <neoxan_> mh
[07:42] <neoxan_> is there no "build-essenital" package any more?
[07:43] <Oddinn> bk__, how can I install it?
[07:43] <troytroy> eternale1: lol thanks st i think too deep
[07:43] <ubuntuStud> does anyone know how to reset the sound to default?
[07:43] <nightcoder> amar-ze: when your connection 'die' are your computer in idle ?
[07:43] <NoUse> !info build-essential dapper
[07:43] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[07:43] <mwe_> bright: I think you gotta look into the linux kernel api
[07:43] <bk__> Oddinn, go to System, and look at Help
[07:43] <NoUse> neoxan_ ^^^
[07:43] <watson540> jtd: yeah but i dont know html..heh
[07:43] <jtd> watson540: Here's a hint: you'll probably be a lot happier with what you type up if you <font face = "Something Not As Ugly As Times New Roman"> right at the beginning.  :)
[07:43] <amar-ze> nightcoder ; what should I change in /etc/network/interfaces? and btw in resolv.conf .. nameservers get there automaticly
[07:43] <bk__> Oddinn, that's how I got Lao installed
[07:43] <Oddinn> bk__, thanks :)
[07:43] <jdmpike> how do I find out what has the sound device busy?
[07:43] <neoxan_> nouse, cant find it :s
[07:44] <neoxan_> maybe my sources.list...^^
[07:44] <bright> mwe_: ok.
[07:44] <bk__> Oddinn, let me see if I remember myself and I will show you if you don't succeed.
[07:44] <ubuntuStud> lots of sound questions, no answers...
[07:44] <bright> thanks.
[07:44] <jtd> watson540: there are easy tutorials everywhere, and you can probably just cut and paste some sourcecode.  Google for it.
[07:44] <Oddinn> bk__:
[07:44] <Oddinn> ok, thanks.
[07:44] <neoxan_> omg, nouse
[07:44] <amar-ze> nightcoder : right now conn. is 'dead' but I still chat .. until I close conn.
[07:44] <docta_v> i'm using ati big desktop...after upgrading to dapper i can no longer use both monitors in kde
[07:44] <watson540> good idea i will
[07:44] <neoxan_> wrong spelling
[07:44] <neoxan_> :s
[07:44] <docta_v> when kdm is up before i login, i can move my mouse between both screens but once kde launches i'm stuck on just the left screen
[07:44] <mwe_> bright: writing a program that is accessing the parallel port driver
[07:44] <docta_v> seems to be the same thing if i launch gnome too
[07:44] <EmxBA> hi!
[07:44] <amar-ze> nightcoder : then I will have to restart pppoe
[07:44] <jtd> watson540: Is this for the webpage installed on your Ubuntu server, or are you putting this code hosted somewhere else?
[07:44] <nightcoder> amar-ze: your computer seems to lost dns config during ppp connection (for no reason)
[07:44] <mcquaid> hello, i ordered some cds a couple of days ago, but when i submitted the browser just seemed to reload the page and i was still at the submit screen
[07:44] <troytroy> ok now too much of asking am available for anyone need help (thats if i can)
[07:44] <watson540> jtd: yeah its for my home box
[07:45] <nightcoder> amar-ze: not exactly
[07:45] <hmpedersen> That's it. Im now marking this presumably dead dvd drive dead!
[07:45] <jtd> watson540: you'll DEFINITELY want to learn at least some basic HTML.
[07:45] <mcquaid> i wanted to know if that's normail, or should i have seen some confirmation
[07:45] <amar-ze> nightcoder : is there solution to fix this..
[07:45] <hmpedersen> It just shut itself down while installing base system
[07:45] <mcquaid> i don't want to order again in error
[07:45] <watson540> insecure eh
[07:45] <eternale1> watson540: coding basic html is simple... or Bluefish is a webdev ide
[07:46] <eternale1> depending on how advanced your getting you could probably just do it with nedit
[07:46] <bk__> Oddinn, did you figure it out?
[07:46] <nightcoder> amar-ze: if you can 'ping' some (internet) IP address when your connection 'die', it means that only DNS config has died
[07:46] <jtd> watson540: you know, you might have a lot of fun installing and running MediaWiki.  Give it a shot.
[07:46] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: hi
[07:46] <jtd> eternale1: nedit?
[07:46] <eternale1> just a text editor
[07:46] <nightcoder> amar-ze: edit your /etc/network/interfaces AND /etc/resolv.conf
[07:46] <mcquaid> nm if i go back there i see the order is there
[07:46] <hmpedersen> EmxBA Hi
[07:46] <eternale1> like gedit
[07:46] <amar-ze> nightcoder : I can't says unknown host
[07:47] <jtd> eternale1: ah.
[07:47] <nightcoder> amar-ze: put your correct DNS servers on /etc/resolv.conf -before- pppd is up
[07:47] <jtd> do we still hate Automatix?
[07:47] <jtd> !automatix
[07:47] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[07:47] <bliss_> hi
[07:47] <jtd> Oh wow.  I guess not.
[07:47] <EmxBA> amar-ze: jesi l to ti majke ti :D
[07:47] <ch_604> hiooooo
[07:47] <amar-ze> nightcoder : will try that too..
[07:47] <docta_v> looks like this guy has the same problem as me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173986
[07:47] <nightcoder> amar-ze: and check if /etc/network/interfaces have dns related configuration
[07:47] <amar-ze> EMXba . jesam :D
[07:48] <ch_604> i'm trying to change permissions and its not workign out right
[07:48] <EmxBA> haha
[07:48] <hmpedersen> EmxBA, that nick sounds familiar.. What have you been helping me out with?
[07:48] <mwe_> jtd: I think someone changed it without general accept
[07:48] <docta_v> anyone have suggestions?
[07:48] <jtd> mwe_: I think it's a lot more careful than it used to be.  There's a lot of user prompting and so on now.
[07:48] <dabbler> !nedit
[07:48] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dabbler
[07:48] <skippy81> Hey guys, does anyone know of a site which explains in simple terms how the GPL works please?
[07:48] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: i don't know really, I helped a lot on this channel, so I am very confused. I chat on #ubuntu all over the day
[07:48] <mwe_> jtd: maybe so
[07:48] <amar-ze> nightcoder : can I pm you pastebin of my /etc/network/interfaces ? Not sure what to change there :)
[07:48] <ch_604> ive got some files on a fat32, but i cant change the permissions, even after changing the fstab
[07:48] <ch_604> any hints?
[07:48] <EmxBA> amar-ze: kakav imas problem
[07:48] <EmxBA> what's the problem
[07:48] <EmxBA> :D
[07:49] <nightcoder> amar-ze: ok
[07:49] <amar-ze> pppoe dhcp
[07:49] <bliss_> since  installing 6.06 my disk used has increased by may gigs cannot be correct from 35 gigs toal  and  28 unsed to 32 gigs used  something wrong
[07:49] <amar-ze> priv. Emx
[07:49] <amar-ze> :D
[07:49] <hmpedersen> Well seems I won't be playing dvds on my laptop anymore..
[07:49] <eternale1> skippy81: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html ?
[07:49] <nightcoder> bliss_ check your /var/cache/apt/archives directory
[07:49] <jason^> is there a command to see what files are in a package or what package a file belongs to?
[07:49] <soundray> bliss_: check the size of the /var/log directory; run apt-get autoclean
[07:50] <hmpedersen> Not that I walk around with dvds in the backpack anyways
[07:50] <watson540> well i installed mediawiki now u have to figure out what it does i guess :)
[07:50] <skippy81> thx eternale1
[07:50] <nightcoder> bliss_: rm -f anything there
[07:50] <johnnyrusso> why hmpedersen
[07:50] <mwe_> hmpedersen: why can't you play dvds ?
[07:50] <eternale1> skippy81: np... google always knows :)
[07:50] <ch_604> so i can change the fstab, but it makes no effect. chmod doesnt work either. what can i do?
[07:50] <bliss_> no its not the log.directory its a fuzzy buggy gui called gparted#
[07:51] <hmpedersen> johnnyrusso, mwe_, because i just scrapped the dvd drive. It kept shutting itself down. I can live with it shutting down with only a shutdown-eject drive-insert drive-boot to cure it if it was inactive for an hour.. But I can not live with a dvd drive that shuts itself down during install!
[07:51] <soundray> ch_604: you should remount the filesystem in question after changing fstab.
[07:52] <mwe> hmpedersen: no
[07:52] <ch_604> soundray, i did. didnt work. i even rebooted.
[07:52] <hmpedersen> Only got it because it was marked presumably dead anyways..
[07:53] <hmpedersen> just like the laptop
[07:53] <soundray> ch_604: what did you change in fstab?
[07:53] <bliss_> soundray: thanks whats the command line to check disk space  i am not in a live cd
[07:53] <bliss_> nightcode: thanks for support
[07:53] <soundray> bliss_: du /var/log/
[07:53] <blibbity123> anyone familiar with how to setup/config wpa_supplicant?
[07:53] <hmpedersen> Can anyone tell me why I'm installing breezy with only 7 min till dapper is done downloading?!?
[07:53] <H0ddi> du -h is even better
[07:54] <mwe> !wpa
[07:54] <ubotu> For easy WPA support in Ubuntu 6.06, install the package network-manager-gnome, then log out and in. Otherwise, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto.
[07:54] <mwe> blibbity123: read that
[07:54] <blibbity123> mwe: that doesnt work for me
[07:54] <jobe> hmpedersen: man impatient
[07:54] <hmpedersen> (if anyone feels like answering my former question, a /slap would do)
[07:54] <cory> wpa?
[07:54] <mwe> blibbity123: what doesn't exactly?
[07:54] <bliss_> soundray: i will pastebin results
[07:54] <thewh00> How are security updates applied automatically?
[07:55] <blibbity123> mwe: the network manager shows, but doesnt detect any devices
[07:55] <soundray> bliss_: if you have time, run 'du / | sort -rn >/tmp/diskusage'. The first few lines of /tmp/diskusage will show you which directories occupy most of the space.
[07:55] <mwe> blibbity123: then read the wiki page
[07:55] <vacafe> ola
[07:55] <thewh00> synaptic?
[07:55] <vacafe> kien er4es tu?
[07:55] <vacafe> '
[07:55] <vacafe> '
[07:55] <vacafe> '
[07:55] <vacafe> '
[07:55] <vacafe> '
[07:55] <vacafe> 'ola a todos
[07:55] <mwe> vacafe: shut up
[07:55] <ronin_> hi everyone! small problem: dapper drake doesnt start the x-server anymore...i have to start it by myself....whats wrong?
[07:55] <EmxBA> vacare, don't spam us
[07:55] <johnnyrusso> hmpedersen: was that a trick question?
[07:55] <fluxinator> vacafe #ubuntu-es
[07:55] <lillpelle> Hi, I don't want apache to write "HTTP Response Header Location", anyone know howto do this?
[07:55] <scenestar> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/38991
[07:55] <johnnyrusso> why is it called dapper drake
[07:56] <scenestar> anyone else seen stuff on that?
[07:56] <mwe> blibbity123: is the device even configured without encryption
[07:56] <vacafe> en el espaol
[07:56] <scenestar> is it fixable with a modeline?
[07:56] <vacafe> xfavor
[07:56] <mwe> !es
[07:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:56] <wastrel> !pt
[07:56] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:56] <hmpedersen> johnnyrusso, maybe someone has seen too much darkwing duck?
[07:56] <mr_hus> Anybody knows what the Gnome Deskbar uses to index things? I mean, it must use an index of some sort... and some cron job to keep that index up to date right?
[07:56] <TobiasFar> what package do i need to install if i want to run kile? it says that no dcopserver is runnin
[07:56] <jobe> johnnyrusso: because its pretty looking
[07:56] <blibbity123> mwe: the wiki says nothing that helps me
[07:56] <GarryFre> Well, I got the new Ubuntu working but it won't boot via system-commander but must be done via setting the drive as the boot drive and it says no active partition but there is, then Grub comes up and all seems fine. Its called dapper drake because its a pretty dragon that will burn you up. j/k
[07:56] <ssam> thewh00, try system -> administration -> software properties
[07:56] <avis> vacafe vayase #ubuntu-es  o  +b
[07:56] <jobe> johnnyrusso: like a really well turned out duck!
[07:56] <mwe> blibbity123: you gotta ask a better question
[07:56] <disinterested_pe> sorry, i dont have spanish translation enabled
[07:57] <Bizzeh> i think its time to make a LFS
[07:57] <vacafe> ke ,mwe hables en espaol,,,,,
[07:57] <johnnyrusso> lol ok
[07:57] <lillpelle> hm, I'll ask in #apache instead...
[07:57] <blibbity123> mwe: i dont know how better to ask it, installed gnome network manager, it shows up in the taskbar, says it cant find any devices..
[07:57] <crummage> i need to recover my mbr by ubuntu 6.06 live cd,  do someone know how to do that?
[07:57] <vacafe> tu puta madres
[07:57] <mwe> blibbity123: provide detail. is the device configured, where doesn't it work. what did you try etc
[07:57] <vacafe> jaja
[07:57] <EmxBA> vacafe: we speak english
[07:57] <EmxBA> !ops
[07:57] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:57] <vacafe> ola lucaas
[07:57] <fluxinator> nosotros hablamos ingles vacafe
[07:58] <hmpedersen> EmxBA, we do?
[07:58] <apokryphos> EmxBA: ?
[07:58] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: most of us
[07:58] <NoUse> in this channel we do
[07:58] <hmpedersen> oh
[07:58] <sergiol> hello
[07:58] <jobe> hmpedersen: i think EmxBA means we try
[07:58] <thewh00> ok that worked thank you
[07:58] <zach_> hello... how can i set VLC as default video player?
[07:58] <hmpedersen> jobe, ahh..
[07:58] <sergiol> how can i upgrade my sources.list?
[07:58] <mwe> blibbity123: you should probably read the wifi wiki first, to get your device to be recognized
[07:58] <gnomefreak> EmxBA: ?
[07:58] <EmxBA> jobe: english looks like default language on thischannel :D
[07:58] <mwe> blibbity123: if the device is not recognized nothing will work
[07:58] <crummage> i need to recover my mbr by ubuntu 6.06 live cd,  do someone know how to do that?
[07:59] <bliss_> soundray http://pastebin.ca/62208
[07:59] <ch_604> ok i umounted and mounted about 5 times, i get the same result. anyone can help me with permissions?
[07:59] <EmxBA> i just want vacafe to stop speaking non-english
[07:59] <rdz> hi all. i read on the compiz-page: "add "/usr/bin/startcompiz" to gnome session startup programs". how can i do that?
[07:59] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: just vacafe above
[07:59] <EmxBA> let him visit other ubuntu channels on his native language
[07:59] <soundray> ch_604: what did you change in fstab?
[07:59] <scenestar> wahwahwah
[07:59] <gnomefreak> ty apokryphos
[07:59] <EmxBA> if they exist
[07:59] <penguinwhoflew> umm.... glxgears won't output fps info, but it runs just fine...
[07:59] <Seveas> EmxBA, there are heaps of localized channels
[07:59] <blibbity123> mwe: the default network manager dapper has detects and configures all my devices fine, but has nothing for wpa, which I need. so I installed gnome network manager per the isntructions. restarted, it shows up in the tray, but says it cant finda ny devices. if there's something that needs to be configured, it doesnt say that in the wiki and I have no clue what to do or where to go next besides a different os
[07:59] <thewh00> !pgp
[07:59] <disinterested_pe> i put in sudo checkinstall last night havent tried it yet but will sometime
[07:59] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thewh00
[07:59] <ch_604> soundray: i changed a default mount to rw.
[07:59] <zach_> how can i watch videos over a windows network....nothing will play...but if i copy to computer they do...
[07:59] <sergiol> how to update my sources.list?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> sergiol: from what to what?
[08:00] <soundray> ch_604, for what type of filesystem?
[08:00] <penguinwhoflew> umm.... glxgears won't output fps info, but it runs just fine... how can i see my fps?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> sergiol: or do you mean after you made changes?
[08:00] <ch_604> soundray, vfat
[08:00] <hmpedersen> Download done.. And now breezy install asks me if i want to download full language support..
[08:00] <nightcoder> sergiol: use synaptic
[08:00] <EmxBA> Seveas, i know, so i am just telling vacafe to try them
[08:00] <sergiol> no
[08:00] <sergiol> before
[08:00] <hmpedersen> I think I'll reboot the laptop
[08:00] <mwe> blibbity123: I don't know the nwm. does ifconfig show your device?
[08:00] <soundray> bliss_: your log directory is not the problem.
[08:00] <GarryFre> Is there an accellerated nvidia driver for Dapper? I look, I find the wrong one, the computer has a siezure.
[08:00] <sergiol> i want to update it if there is one in ubuntu.com
[08:00] <zach_> sergiol: apt-get update          ??
[08:01] <rdz> sergiol, what do you mean by updating? apt-get update?
[08:01] <mwe> gnomefreak: do you know if the use of automatix is approved now, or did someone just change the factoid?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> sergiol: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:01] <clement_lefebvre> did anybody see any SMB problem with using nautilus as an SMB client ?
[08:01] <bliss_> soundray: ok did you se the print out for the command you gave me
[08:01] <crummage> no knows how to recover it? :~
[08:01] <iiiears> 1000 CLOSE UBUNTU USING FRIENDS. - this room is huge. - grin
[08:01] <avis> crummage i know its in the bot
[08:01] <blibbity123> mwe: ifconfig did until I installed the gnome net manager, now it just shows the wiredcard and the loopback, but iwconfig shows all 3 devices
[08:01] <zach_> How can i set VLC as default video player?
[08:01] <t35t0r> anyone know how to set a central plugin directory environment variable for opera? OPERA_PLUGIN_PATH doesn't work
[08:01] <soundray> bliss_: what you pasted? Yes.
[08:01] <penguinwhoflew> so, my glxgears is just borked then?
[08:01] <crummage> avis, in the bot?
[08:01] <squid> #ubuntu-mx
[08:02] <avis> crummage yes the mbr recovery
[08:02] <tijn> hey all
[08:02] <avis> thats gotta hurt
[08:02] <sergiol> ok thank you
[08:02] <crummage> avis, sorry my noobish but what bot?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> mwe: someone changed the factoid yes as for your other question i never looked at script (i also found that to be a touchy subject)
[08:02] <hmpedersen> Hey tijn.
[08:02] <avis> channel bot
[08:02] <soundray> !tell ch_604 about vfat
[08:02] <bliss_> soundray: well that command was not correct the secound or i did not type it correctly
[08:02] <crummage> oh yes
[08:02] <iiiears> penguinwhoflew - If you mean it shows up without printing any numbers. yes, seeing the same here.
[08:02] <soundray> ch_604: please read the pages that ubotu points you to.
[08:03] <thewh00> anyone have info on pgp
[08:03] <mwe> blibbity123: well it sounds like you should get rid of nwm and configure it manually and file a bug on nwm
[08:03] <avis> there are ops here be more concise and ask them to send you the info
[08:03] <crummage> can i download it throught a web irc? b/c ubuntu doesn't seems to have an irc client
[08:03] <thewh00> pretty good privacy
[08:03] <tijn> crummage well, there is xchat
[08:03] <sergiol> how can i search in the repositories the packages containing php in the name?
[08:03] <crummage> avis, ok thanks for the help ;)
[08:03] <tijn> or konversation
[08:03] <blibbity123> mwe: that's what I was doing, hence my first question, help configuring wpa_supplicant :)
[08:03] <tijn> its apt gettable :)
[08:03] <nightcoder> sergiol: use synaptic
[08:03] <avis> crummage i dont know :(
[08:03] <zach_> can anyone help me setup dual monitors with an ati card?
[08:03] <soundray> bliss_: you added spaces that weren't in the command I gave you.
[08:03] <sergiol> synaptic=dpkg?
[08:04] <bliss_> soundray: ok
[08:04] <soundray> bliss_: run 'du / | sort -rn >/tmp/diskusage'.
[08:04] <disinterested_pe> im the proud dad of a 4ft8" green iguana lol
[08:04] <nightcoder> sergiol: or 'sudo apt-cache search xxx'
[08:04] <avis> blibbity123, For easy WPA support in Ubuntu 6.06, install the package network-manager-gnome, then log out and in. Otherwise, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto.vacafe
[08:04] <troytroy> ok so why does ubuntu always add totem to default pkg whilst it does nothing right. shoul rather be mplayer
[08:04] <crummage> tijn, i can download it even with live-cd?
[08:04] <SpirosChronis> Hello All, i am having such a problem getting my wireless pcmcia card working. I am the biggest NoooB. i have installed ipw220 and still no luck. The thing doesn't even show the power light. ANYONE KEEN TO HELP :-D
[08:04] <tijn> crummage eeerh
[08:04] <kettenschutz> hey there
[08:04] <tijn> maybe :)
[08:04] <tijn> try it
[08:04] <crummage> i'll
[08:04] <ydnar> what do you do if the newest version of the software you want is not in synaptic?
[08:04] <fluxinator> i want to compile the latest fluxbox... anything I should know about
[08:04] <kettenschutz> i need some help by using GRUB
[08:04] <MehAdult> blibbity123: What kind of wireless card?
[08:04] <nightcoder> ydnar: check your repos ...
[08:04] <tijn> crummage i think it *should* work, it will be installed in ram
[08:04] <kettenschutz> it wont load my Windows, stops aber clicking it in my menu
[08:05] <blibbity123> MehAdult: intel 3945
[08:05] <ydnar> what should i look for nightcoder?
[08:05] <sergiol> its annoying
[08:05] <SpirosChronis> it's a twinmos G231 wireless card
[08:05] <MehAdult> blibbity123: What chipset?
[08:05] <ydnar> i used easyubuntu to update my repositories
[08:05] <nightcoder> ydnar: are you using breezy or dapper ?
[08:05] <mwe> blibbity123: why doesn't the wapa wiki work for you?
[08:05] <ydnar> dapper
[08:05] <SpirosChronis> the drivers on the site are meant for the 2.4 linux kernel
[08:05] <crummage> tijn, yeah iam downloading konversation right now... thank you ;)
[08:05] <mwe> blibbity123: where does it fail?
[08:05] <tijn> crummage np
[08:05] <mgorbach> anyone here running a dual core?
[08:05] <nightcoder> ydnar: what software you need ?
[08:05] <MehAdult> mgorbach: Why do you ask?
[08:05] <blibbity123> mwe: because the files it says should exist, dont, such as /etc/default/wpasupplicant
[08:05] <ydnar> xchat 2.6.2 -- 2.6.1 is what's showing in synaptic right now
[08:06] <tijn> btw, anyone expierience playing call of duty with ATi?
[08:06] <troytroy> ok so why does ubuntu always add totem to default pkg whilst it does nothing right. should rather include mplayer as default
[08:06] <EmxBA> did anyone setup lucent wireless cards on ubuntu
[08:06] <mwe> blibbity123: just create it
[08:06] <mgorbach> my new ubuntu 6.06 install is not detecting my 4800+
[08:06] <avis> mgorbach, my windows box is.  such a shame too i dont nearly consume the power that its capable of using windows
[08:06] <EmxBA> they require extra drivers
[08:06] <mgorbach> at least it doesn't look like it
[08:06] <soundray> troytroy: this is not a support request. Do not repeat please.
[08:06] <EmxBA> thatis patch for kernel
[08:06] <blibbity123> MehAdult:I dont know, it's just the intel 3945 a/b/g card their putting into all the new laptops
[08:06] <sergiol> apt-cache search php gives everything that does not contain php in the name
[08:06] <mgorbach> cat /proc/cpuinfo shows one CPU
[08:06] <MehAdult> mgorbach: Usually you need a SMP kernel.
[08:06] <rdz> how can i add a script to the "gnome session startup programs"?
[08:06] <mgorbach> iv got one
[08:06] <nightcoder> ydnar: you can download sources if it are not in repos yet ... or you can wait a few days ...
[08:06] <mgorbach> tried both the k7 and the i686
[08:07] <MehAdult> Did you choose it while booting?
[08:07] <ydnar> is it easy to install the sources?
[08:07] <mgorbach> yep
[08:07] <soundray> mgorbach: you need the k8
[08:07] <blibbity123> mwe: but I have nothing to create it from, i need the config file it comes with so I can modify it per the wiki instructions
[08:07] <MehAdult> It gives you several options
[08:07] <mgorbach> Linux montecarlo 2.6.15-23-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 23 14:20:54 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:07] <tijn> i have installed my ati card drivers (ubuntu ones), d3d works, but i have installe COD and it says my driver are bad
[08:07] <troytroy> soundray: totem works for u?
[08:07] <green_earz> mgorbach:  i think its the smp kernel you need
[08:07] <nightcoder> Xchat 2.6.2 has some feature that you need (especifically) ?
[08:07] <MehAdult> mgorbach: Sounds like the wrong kernel.
[08:07] <SpirosChronis> anyone: I am having such a problem getting my wireless pcmcia card working. i have installed ipw2200 and still no luck. The thing doesn't even show the power light. could anyone help???
[08:07] <avis> mgorbach, i think your good
[08:07] <DBO> soundray, he shouldnt need the 64 bit kernel for dual core, just the smp kern
[08:07] <mgorbach> shouldnt it be showing two processors if i do cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:07] <ydnar> nightcoder, not really.
[08:07] <nightcoder> ydnar: install 2.6.1
[08:07] <ydnar> but thank you very much for your help
[08:07] <MehAdult> mgorbach: Once you get the right kernel.
[08:07] <ydnar> ok
[08:08] <soundray> mgorbach: it's possible that you have to activate a BIOS option before you will.
[08:08] <mgorbach> iv got SMP ... is there something else i need?
[08:08] <MehAdult> ydnar: On Mandriva I can get 2.6.2 and I have 2.6.1 on Dapper and you're not missing much.
[08:08] <iiiears> nightcoder - it is vastly changed. with a simplified interface. - I miss some faamiliar features
[08:08] <mgorbach> well ... windows is detected the dual core correctly
[08:08] <mgorbach> i dont think its a bios issue
[08:08] <ydnar> nightcoder, will it update automatically later?
[08:08] <MehAdult> soundray: Good point.
[08:08] <SpirosChronis> Hello All, i am having such a problem getting my wireless pcmcia card working. I am the biggest NoooB. i have installed ipw220 and still no luck. The thing doesn't even show the power light
[08:08] <nightcoder> ydnar: yes
[08:08] <MehAdult> mgorbach: Did you buy this computer with the X2?
[08:08] <ch_604> soundray, thx ^^
[08:08] <mgorbach> yep
[08:08] <mgorbach> got it built at a shop here
[08:08] <mwe> blibbity123: yeah I guess the wiki is deprecated
[08:08] <MehAdult> Did it ever work like on Winblows or anything?
[08:09] <nightcoder> iiiears: sorry, I dont know what changes was made in Xchat 2.6.2
[08:09] <mgorbach> windows came installed and works correctly showing  two processors
[08:09] <troytroy> hi anybody using totem here
[08:09] <MehAdult> Ok.
[08:09] <crimsun> mgorbach: are you running -686?
[08:09] <green_earz> mgorbach: what dose uname -a say ?
[08:09] <SpirosChronis> help please
[08:09] <ydnar> iiiears, you like v.2.6.1 better?
[08:09] <brosio> is possible found an usb to serial converter that isn't linux compatible
[08:09] <mwe> blibbity123: you should read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian instead
[08:09] <brosio> ?
[08:09] <t35t0r> anyone know how to set a central plugin directory environment variable for opera? OPERA_PLUGIN_PATH doesn't work
[08:09] <soundray> SpirosChronis: have you read the wiki pages?
[08:09] <Hattori> !wireless
[08:09] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[08:09] <mgorbach> Linux montecarlo 2.6.15-23-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 23 14:20:54 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:10] <soundray> SpirosChronis: read ubotu
[08:10] <zach_> can anyone help me with dual monitors and an ATi card
[08:10] <mgorbach> iv also tried i686 SMP kernel ... didnt work either
[08:10] <Hattori> !wep
[08:10] <ubotu> I guess wep is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.0031507315
[08:10] <mlehrer> is Dapper going to stay with 2.6.15?
[08:10] <spikeb> yes
[08:10] <crimsun> mlehrer: yes.
[08:10] <soundray> mlehrer: yes
[08:10] <mlehrer> i need 2.6.16 for some driver updates
[08:10] <tijn> hmz, when i install orignal ATi drivers, and i run aticonfig, i get aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:10] <SpirosChronis> soundray: which pages should i read?
[08:10] <iiiears> nightcoder - I just installed it so am not comeplete in all the changes but The logged in names have been moved to the left. (meh) nick comepletion using a comma is gone. spell checking is added. etc.
[08:10] <mlehrer> but i really don't want to start maintaining my own kernel fork on Yet Another distro
[08:10] <crimsun> mlehrer: we've backported many of them from .16 and .17-git
[08:10] <mgorbach> im pretty much stuck here ...
[08:11] <soundray> SpirosChronis: read ubotu's line on wireless ^^
[08:11] <brosio> i have an athlon64 but i'm running dapper i386 is better that i use a k7 kernel or not ?
[08:11] <bliss_> soundray http://pastebin.ca/62212---why three entries for one vmware machine?
[08:11] <simulcra> hello, how do i detect my external modem? thanks
[08:11] <mlehrer> crimsun: this is Alsa, the snd-intel driver
[08:11] <mgorbach> perhaps i need a kernel switch?
[08:11] <paolob> Hi guys! Still unresolved the problem of a usb epson printer unseen by gnome-cups-manager. Any one knows something?
[08:11] <mgorbach> on boot?
[08:11] <green_earz> mgorbach: and cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:11] <mlehrer> crimsun: S/PDIF doesn't work properly on the older driver release, the maintainers claim that the "latest" alsa fixes it as of a few weeks ago
[08:11] <soundray> mgorbach: have you looked at the BIOS? It could be setting that Linux honours, but Windows overrides.
[08:11] <crimsun> mlehrer: I personally backported hda-intel from hg-git, so it's newer than what's in 1.0.11.
[08:11] <SpirosChronis> soundray: Thanks, i'll have a look see. ndiswrapper didn't work for me
[08:11] <crummage> brb
[08:11] <green_earz> mgorbach: pastbin
[08:11] <MehAdult> mgorbach: Is your BIOS updated to the latest?
[08:11] <mlehrer> crimsun: excellent
[08:12] <mgorbach> ok ... 1sec
[08:12] <zach_> can someone help me set VLC to defualt video player and banshee to default audio player?
[08:12] <MehAdult> That's another thing to try with 939
[08:12] <CarinArr> jesus.. userbase on this channel has increased dramatically;)
[08:12] <mgorbach> http://pastebin.com/760288
[08:12] <crimsun> mlehrer: I mean hg, not hg-git. :)
[08:12] <mgorbach> thats /proc/cpuinfo
[08:12] <squid> #ubuntu-es
[08:12] <mgorbach> bios is updated
[08:12] <MehAdult> CarinArr: Yeah. I'm new here because I just installed KUbuntu 6.06 to try it out.
[08:12] <whiter> hello, i dont have any sound when trying to play mp3's with any media player
[08:12] <mlehrer> crimsun: ok cool.  what kind of motherboard do you use with that driver?
[08:12] <whiter> including mplayer
[08:12] <soundray> brosio: k7 will make better use of your CPU than 386
[08:13] <crimsun> mlehrer: I don't use it. I just do sound for Ubuntu kernels.
[08:13] <tijn> hmz
[08:13] <CarinArr> does anyone know if there's an easy way to display a warning message when someone chooses to reboot from the gdm menu?
[08:13] <Bizzeh> where does ubuntu install the linux headers too?
[08:13] <mgorbach> motherboard is ASUS a8r-mvp
[08:13] <brosio> are u sure ?
[08:13] <tijn> Bizzeh: /usr/src
[08:13] <tijn> afaik
[08:13] <HymnToLife> !kernelheaders
[08:13] <ubotu> kernelheaders is, like, To install the kernal headers do sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:13] <MehAdult> It's got the HT flag on the thing.
[08:13] <zOap> Does anyone know if it is possible to specify the firefox width, height and alignment from top, left?
[08:13] <avis> someone said the 386 kernel would be more resource intensive than a 686 on a p4 intel ?
[08:13] <soundray> brosio: why are you asking that? It's rude.
[08:13] <Hattori> where to set the 128bit wep key on ubuntu?
[08:14] <avis> or rather the other way around
[08:14] <hmpedersen> Allright.. Can anyone tell me..
[08:14] <hmpedersen> No nevermind
[08:14] <crimsun> avis: 386 would hardly do that
[08:14] <ghozt> !xgl
[08:14] <ubotu> somebody said xgl was "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[08:14] <RadiantFire> avis, 386 can't use the nifty execution paths that have been put into a p4
[08:14] <HymnToLife> avis > The 686 will give better perfs
[08:14] <avis> For easy WPA support in Ubuntu 6.06, install the package network-manager-gnome, then log out and in. Otherwise, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[08:14] <DBO> avis, a 686 kernel would better take advantage of your processor
[08:14] <crimsun> mgorbach: have you booted with ht=on?
[08:14] <avis> ok
[08:14] <avis> thank you
[08:14] <avis> i can't reboot now
[08:14] <DagaZ> I need a little help... does anyone know how to change mode on a usbdrive? sudo doesn't work..
[08:14] <mgorbach> nope ... is that what is needed?
[08:14] <ghozt> !compiz
[08:14] <ubotu> Compiz is a compositing manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. See http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz -- Installation howto's:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.
[08:14] <crimsun> mgorbach: I don't know offhand, because I don't know the core duos that well.
[08:14] <tijn> hmz, when i install orignal ATi drivers, and i run aticonfig, i get aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:14] <brosio> soundray: are u sure
[08:14] <brosio> ?
[08:14] <brosio> :D
[08:15] <tijn> someone? plz
[08:15] <mgorbach> crimsun, this is not a core duo ... its an X2
[08:15] <NoUse> tijn did you install the drivers via synaptic?
[08:15] <crimsun> mgorbach: I have no idea what that terminology means
[08:15] <st0ne> hi
[08:15] <tijn> NoUse: yes
[08:15] <tijn> thats work
[08:15] <Bizzeh> HymnToLife: where do they install to though?
[08:15] <MehAdult> crimsun: He has an AMD processor.
[08:15] <tijn> but
[08:15] <DBO> crimsun, he means he has an AMD processor, not an intel
[08:15] <MehAdult> crimsun: It has NO HyperThreading.
[08:16] <Intangir> all of my fonts look the same, where in the repositories can i get alot of good fonts?
[08:16] <tijn> to play COD is probally need the original ATi drivers
[08:16] <mgorbach> oh ok crimsun ... its just processor branding
[08:16] <MehAdult> !ati
[08:16] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[08:16] <mgorbach> MehAdult, so any suggestions?
[08:16] <green_earz> mgorbach: it looks like its a 64 bit  ?
[08:16] <mgorbach> yes
[08:16] <NoUse> tijn I don't use ATI so I'm not sure, but make sure the installation script ran ok
[08:16] <MehAdult> green_earz: It's def. 64 bit.
[08:16] <mgorbach> but im running 32bit ubuntu
[08:16] <tijn> NoUse i ran ok, but, after install run aticonfig
[08:16] <MehAdult> 32 or 64 bit makes no difference or shouldn't.
[08:17] <crimsun> mgorbach: can you boot with "smp-alt-disable" ?
[08:17] <tijn> that gives me an error
[08:17] <Alacrit> oh it does, it does..
[08:17] <ghozt> is xgl going to be standard next release?
[08:17] <crimsun> mgorbach: that should force it into smp mode.
[08:17] <soundray> ghozt: unlikely
[08:17] <crimsun> mgorbach: also, please pastebin current ``dmesg |grep -i smp''
[08:17] <green_earz> mgorbach: i bets that the problem you are running a 32 bit install
[08:17] <binks120> does anyone no howto get tovid to create better quality video
[08:17] <NoUse> tijn you might try googling that error message
[08:18] <ghozt> :(
[08:18] <crimsun> MehAdult: thanks for the clarification
[08:18] <mirak> where am I supposed to put  "dmesg -n 1" to have it at bootup ?
[08:18] <bliss_> soundray: did you see my post
[08:18] <mgorbach> why would that cause issues?
[08:18] <MehAdult> crimsun: You're welcome.
[08:18] <crimsun> mirak: /etc/rc.local, for instance
[08:18] <tijn> NoUse ok i will look further
[08:18] <tijn> thnx
[08:18] <sergiol> is that what i want
[08:18] <dergringo> hey girls! Where is my amarok-gstreamer package?
[08:18] <Hattori> where to set the 128bit wep key on ubuntu?
[08:18] <sergiol> apt-cache search php --names-only
[08:18] <MehAdult> What command do I use to check which deb a file is in to download?
[08:19] <mgorbach> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/760311
[08:19] <MehAdult> In debian I could do apt-file something or another.
[08:19] <DBO> apt-get
[08:19] <mirak> crimsun: there is no thing to be put in /etc/default for exemple ?
[08:19] <crimsun> MehAdult: apt-file, or use packages.ubuntu.com's search.
[08:19] <soundray> bliss_: I am not an expert on vmware (or on any other proprietary technology)
[08:19] <crimsun> mirak: use /etc/rc.local, which was merged specifically for that.
[08:19] <MehAdult> Hmm apt-file wasn't installed.
[08:19] <MehAdult> Thanks :)
[08:20] <mirak> ah ok
[08:20] <wastrel> apt-file isn't installed by default
[08:20] <wastrel> i had cheap chinese for lunch
[08:20] <crimsun> mgorbach: yep, precisely as I suspected. Boot with smp-alt-disable
[08:20] <bliss_> soundary:ok what about the rest the space is my problem i mentioned vmwarwe as an afterthought
[08:20] <mgorbach> so ... i boot that into the grub menu file?
[08:20] <zach_> can anyone help me get and ATi and fglrx working for dual monitors?
[08:21] <crimsun> mgorbach: I'd test it first by editing the grub kernel command line
[08:21] <__doc__> hi, the nvidia problem. so after adjusting driver = "nvidia" in xorg.conf and apt-get install nvidia-glx and then a ctrl+alt+backspace my X.org contains "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!"
[08:21] <mirak> is there a way to put unused harddrives on standby when not acceced ?
[08:21] <mgorbach> ok
[08:21] <mgorbach> brb
[08:21] <soundray> bliss_: did you look at the file /tmp/diskusage? Pastebin the first 20 lines if you can't make sense of it.
[08:21] <dergringo> hey girls! Where is my amarok-gstreamer package?
[08:21] <NoUse> __doc__ try restarting it from the console: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[08:21] <QMario> Wow! 1K people today!!! :)
[08:21] <NoUse> !tell dergringo about repeat
[08:22] <MehAdult> dergringo: apt-cache search amarok | grep gstreamer
[08:22] <bliss_> soundray: thats whats posted
[08:22] <crimsun> dergringo: it's gone, why? (Upstream is looking for a maintainer for it, as it's unmaintained)
[08:22] <MehAdult> Meh.
[08:22] <soundray> mirak: yes -- install laptop-mode-tools and configure via /etc/apt/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[08:22] <dergringo> crimsun: nothing has been found
[08:23] <jcoiron> Hello. I'm searching for a way to start vino from a shell. I'm connected through SSH. I search on the net but can't find a shell command. Could someone give me a hint ?
[08:23] <crimsun> dergringo: see what I just typed
[08:23] <VonGeist> Is there any way to get an SLI setup to work in Ubuntu?
[08:23] <__doc__> NoUse: that wont't work sais gdm is already started
[08:23] <mirak> soundray: thanks
[08:23] <soundray> bliss_: what's the link?
[08:23] <bliss_> soundray http://pastebin.ca/62212 i ran the command as suggested
[08:24] <mirak> soundray: in fact I have my second hard drive with windows which is never used when I am on linux
[08:24] <NoUse> __doc__ read the command I sent again, restart, not start
[08:24] <mgorbach> no luck ...
[08:24] <mgorbach> still getting "smp motherboard not detected"
[08:24] <mgorbach> in dmesg
[08:24] <__doc__> NoUse: that's what I *did*!
[08:24] <PietSheep> hi @all
[08:24] <__doc__> gesh
[08:24] <soundray> bliss_: your vmware is out of control. I won't be much help with that.
[08:24] <crimsun> mgorbach: is this a 64-bit cpu set?
[08:25] <mgorbach> its a 64bit cpu ... but iom running 32bit ubuntu
[08:25] <PietSheep> hab da n problem mit dem nm-applet. kann man nicht alle netze sehen ?
[08:25] <NoUse> __doc__ ok, try 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[08:25] <soundray> mirak: in that case, you can set a spindown timeout with hdparm (no need for laptop-mode)
[08:25] <jhons1> Is Dapper's live cd also the install CD?
[08:25] <DBO> yes
[08:25] <NoUse> jhons1 yes
[08:25] <crimsun> mgorbach: hmm, try looking at cpuinfo from an amd64 live cd
[08:25] <__doc__> NoUse: same thing
[08:25] <jhons1> How do I install Ubuntu then??
[08:25] <bliss_> soundray: your quite correct its attacking me and the rest?
[08:26] <soundray> mirak: 'sudo apt-get install hdparm', then edit /etc/hdparm.conf (bit hairy, but full of examples)
[08:26] <tahorg> jhons1: choose install at boot time
[08:26] <Bizzeh> is there a sudo option i can use to stop needing to use it in this 1 terminal session?
[08:26] <DBO> jhons1, there should be an icon on your desktop on the live CD that says install
[08:26] <NoUse> __doc__ pastebin the console stuff, command and output
[08:26] <NoUse> !tell __doc__ about pastebin
[08:26] <octan> hi all, i looking for some help (trying to make intel 2200 wireless to run)
[08:26] <PietSheep> looking for help with the networkmanager. the nm-applet does not show other networks - wifi-manager does. how to fix ?
[08:26] <jhons1> I dont see an install option at boot time- so use the desktop install icon?
[08:26] <NoUse> jhons1 yes
[08:27] <jhons1> OK thanks guys!
[08:27] <__doc__> NoUse: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6tRWUp19.html
[08:27] <soundray> Bizzeh: sudo -i
[08:27] <Hattori> what's "mode managed" means in wlan0 interface?
[08:27] <Bizzeh> <3
[08:27] <Hattori> what's it handles?
[08:27] <NoUse> __doc__ I don't see the error messaage
[08:28] <PietSheep> @octan: dapper drake or breezy ?
[08:28] <octan> anybody(please!!)
[08:28] <NoUse> __doc__ run this: 'lsmod | grep nv' what does that output
[08:28] <mirak> soundray: ok. laptop-mode is installed, I just want to look at it a bit. What must I do ?
[08:28] <troytroy> hi how do i switch on code highlighting in vim
[08:29] <zach_> anyone have ati card working with dual monitors?
[08:29] <Khamael> does flash 8 exist for ubuntu/linux?
[08:29] <spikeb> no Khamael
[08:29] <__doc__> NoUse: Jun  5 18:25:49 ubuntu gdm[8997] : GDM already running. Aborting!
[08:29] <Gego> nope
[08:29] <michaels> Azureus's warning are always rendered unreadably and the buttons don't work. anyone know what to do?
[08:30] <Khamael> spikeb: will it ever?
[08:30] <NoUse> __doc__ and the lsmod command?
[08:30] <dos000> what is the name of the installer in dapper ?
[08:30] <spikeb> Khamael, nope. but flash 9 is coming
[08:30] <bliss_> sounday; whats the total in gigs of vmware according to my pastebin?
[08:30] <MehAdult> Khamael: It won't, but Macromedia is gonna release like 8.5 or something I heard last.
[08:30] <__doc__> NoUse: what does the lsmod tell me? (what do I look out for?)
[08:31] <MehAdult> __doc__: Tells you what kernel modules are loaded.
[08:31] <NoUse> __doc__ I sent you the full command to run 'lsmod | grep nv' and just pastebin the output of that
[08:31] <DBO> spikeb, really?  any eta or just more empty promises from macromedia?
[08:31] <spikeb> DBO, empty promises so far
[08:31] <iiiears> dos000 - Synaptic (GUI) apt-get (CLI)
[08:31] <Ron_o> while upgrading, they give me choices when a .conf file has been modified by myself or a script.
[08:31] <LordElph> If I've got a basic server install with a console login, is there a nice apt-get incantation to upgrade that to a gnome desktop? (I want to try and run VMWare Server)
[08:31] <Ron_o> should I keep it or upgrade?
[08:31] <__doc__> NoUse: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Hgca6S99.html
[08:31] <DBO> Ron_o, upgrade
[08:31] <altprsona> how do i remove the pcimia , brltty, and pcimia-utils from my bootup process
[08:31] <nightcoder> LordElph: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:31] <Ron_o> always DBO? :_)
[08:32] <NoUse> __doc__ run 'sudo modprobe nvidia'
[08:32] <LordElph> nightcoder: heh, that easy :) thanks
[08:32] <spikeb> DBO, there was a short beta test of 8.5 for linux, but the final never appeared
[08:32] <DBO> Ron_o, unless its something like samba or proftpd...
[08:32] <iiiears> dos000 - aptitude is also good (CLI)
[08:32] <Ron_o> or when in doubt?
[08:32] <Ron_o> OK..
[08:32] <Ron_o> thanks.
[08:32] <dos000> iiiears, i need the name of the package that does the does the hd install from the live cd
[08:32] <troytroy> nightcoder: hi how do i switch on code highlighting in vim
[08:32] <Intangir> where do i get msttcorefonts
[08:32] <soundray> mirak: for a disk that you don't use at all, don't use laptop-mode. Use /etc/hdparm.conf (-S option)
[08:32] <nightcoder> syntax on
[08:32] <__doc__> NoUse: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[08:32] <nightcoder> troytroy: set syntax on
[08:33] <NoUse> __doc__ you don't have the kernel drier installed
[08:33] <wastrel> ok the new version of mutt in dapper no longer works with my old .muttrc to login to my imap server.  anyone got an idea how to fix this?  i've been trying different things but :[
[08:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Intangir -about fonts
[08:33] <nightcoder> troytroy: to make it default, create a .vimrc and add 'syntax on' in it
[08:33] <NoUse> __doc__ did you follow the wiki HOWTO?
[08:33] <mirak> soundray: I might mount it occasionaly
[08:33] <__doc__> NoUse: which one?
[08:33] <DBO> !nvidia
[08:33] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[08:33] <soundray> mirak: still, you're better off with hdparm alone.
[08:33] <iiiears> dos000 - I am sorry, no idea on that one. maybe one of the more experienced users here has the answer.
[08:33] <hmpedersen> Hmm.. Right now my laptop sounds like a dotmatrix printer.. It's retrieving 874 files from cd..
[08:33] <amarokker> Hello all, i am unable to get any sound anymore....it was working yesterday's well...and I dont recall making any changes to the configuration-
[08:33] <NoUse> __doc__ the one ubotu just posted
[08:34] <soundray> mirak: laptop-mode is advantageous only when you want to spin down a disk with Linux filesystems on it.
[08:34] <mirak> soundray: lol, laptop mode is that bad ? I found the config of laptop mode a bit handier
[08:34] <mirak> soundray: what do you mean ?
[08:34] <Ron_o> amarokker, did you restart the computer?
[08:34] <troytroy> nightcoder: thanks
[08:34] <Ron_o> or anything?
[08:35] <DBO> amarokker, does "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" make any noise?
[08:35] <mirak> soundray: you mean mounted devices only or filesstem?
[08:35] <amarokker> yeah, several times...
[08:35] <amarokker> wait a bit.
[08:35] <__doc__> NoUse: I ran sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx
[08:35] <amarokker> DBO: nada-
[08:35] <Ron_o> do you see a speaker type device no your gnome panel?
[08:35] <dos000> anyone: what is the installer name ??/
[08:35] <Ron_o> what's it say when you put your mouse over it or click on it.
[08:35] <DBO> amarokker, what kinda sound hardware do you have?
[08:35] <__doc__> NoUse: but nvidia-kernel-common was already installed
[08:35] <NoUse> __doc__ ok, but thats not what the howto states you should do
[08:36] <NoUse> __doc__ you need to get the restricted-modules package, read the howot
[08:36] <__doc__> NoUse: the howto tells me to do the same over the gui package manager
[08:36] <soundray> mirak: laptop-mode changes the way buffering/caching is handled to control the risk of data loss in case of system crashes.
[08:36] <amarokker> DBO: have intel on board ac'97 and an audigy card.
[08:36] <__doc__> NoUse: I read that howto, and the restricted-modules package comes preinstalled with dapper
[08:36] <octan> i have just installed ubuntu(last version) on a compaq9030 that comes with the intel2200 wireless nic,everything works but the wireless.It detected by the system and it has been able to detect my wireless connection but a ping doesn work
[08:36] <DBO> amarokker, which are you using?
[08:36] <octan> have tried tons of things
[08:36] <octan> any hep will be great!
[08:36] <amarokker> the intel one-
[08:36] <soundray> mirak: you can of course use laptop-mode if it does what you want it to do.
[08:37] <__doc__> NoUse: i.e. in the gui thingy for packages it was already installed for the processor I use
[08:37] <mgorbach> figured it out
[08:37] <mirak> soundray: have you heard of some gui ?
[08:37] <mgorbach> cpus=2 did the trick
[08:37] <amarokker> i changed the asound.conf card's option to 'card 1' - earlier it was 0- after that i restarted (/etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart)
[08:37] <KenSentMe> octan: do you use any kind of security like wep or wpa?
[08:37] <DBO> amarokker, is it selected in system -> preferences -> sound ?
[08:37] <NoUse> __doc__ the howto doesn't even mention nvidia-kernel-common
[08:37] <marlun> If I need to set something at startup what should I use .bashrc or .bash_profile?
[08:38] <amarokker> yeah, DBO- it is
[08:38] <NoUse> __doc__ I would read it again and follow it closely
[08:38] <troytroy> nightcoder: am new to vim
[08:38] <__doc__> NoUse: no it doesn't, that's from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[08:38] <soundray> mirak, no, but that doesn't mean that there isn't one.
[08:38] <Ron_o> Knoppix has an grea alsoconfig app that works wonders.
[08:38] <DBO> amarokker, both cards are showing in there?
[08:38] <soundray> mirak: use apt-cache search
[08:38] <amarokker> yeah, it is- right now, there's a hardware prob with the audigy card, so i am not using it anyway
[08:38] <__doc__> NoUse: because that binary install instructions got me where I am now. "couldn't load nvidia kernel module..."
[08:38] <troytroy> nightcoder: let say i want code highlighting for a file config what the command syntax
[08:38] <amarokker> i can hear this static noise though
[08:39] <amarokker> when i turn on the line jack sense
[08:39] <NoUse> __doc__ I understnad that, which is why I'm telling you to follow a different set of instructions
[08:39] <cusco> udes
[08:39] <DBO> amarokker, the command I gave you produces white noise, did you stop the command?
[08:39] <cusco> shipit.ubuntu.com only allow 10 cd's this time??
[08:39] <nightcoder> troytroy : syntax on too
[08:39] <cusco> is it possible to make a special request?
[08:39] <__doc__> NoUse: no you don't udnerstand. I *did* follow the binary howto before, and I ended up where I am now.
[08:39] <__doc__> NoUse: no difference
[08:40] <NoUse> __doc__ then you didnt' follow it correctly
[08:40] <cusco> we are going to have a presentation about linux and would like to have some cd's to offer
[08:40] <CarinArr> cusco, you could just burn some;)
[08:40] <M-Rev> Hi, when I try tro install Ubuntu 6.06, I get this errmsg: Invalid fs for this mountpoint.... ext3fs for / in partition #7 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda)
[08:40] <cusco> altho other distros we are going to burn them, it would be advatage that we would have quite some large quantitty for people to take and try!
[08:40] <Drakonik> Is Ubuntu's partitioner non-destrucitce?
[08:40] <M-Rev> Tried with reiserfs too, but same result
[08:40] <__doc__> NoUse: when I execute that sudo nvidia-xconfig it configures something that will not boot for the same reason after ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:41] <__doc__> NoUse: and that was following the binary howto to the letter
[08:41] <wastrel> i h8 u
[08:41] <troytroy> nightcoder: eg "vim -syntax=on config" right?
[08:41] <DBO> __doc__, did you install the drivers from nvidias site or from repos?
[08:41] <cusco> is there really no way arround to make a special request?
[08:41] <mirak> soundray: I searched with synaptics but nothing
[08:42] <nightcoder> yes ... the easy way is to write a .vimrc and put 'syntax on' inside :P
[08:42] <__doc__> DBO: I did apt-get install nvidia-glx and I didn't need to install the restricted modules because they're already there
[08:42] <avis> the nvidia kernel i believe is on another repo
[08:42] <Drakonik> Is Ubuntu's partitioner non-destructive?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> __doc__: in dapper they are
[08:43] <__doc__> gnomefreak: I'm on installing dapper
[08:43] <Chousuke> Drakonik: it doesn't destroy anything you don't tell it to destroy.
[08:43] <gnomefreak> Drakonik: you mess up than yes it very much is destructive
[08:43] <DBO> __doc__, so "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`" doesnt do anything for you
[08:43] <Intangir> apparnetly the msttcorefonts arent in any of the repositories that are in ubuntu dapper by default anymore?
[08:43] <Intangir> or werent when i installed
[08:43] <Intangir> im nto sure which ones they are in
[08:43] <M-Rev> Hi, Need help installing Ubuntu 6.06. When I try tro install, I get this errmsg after setting up partitions: Invalid fs for this mountpoint.... ext3fs for / in partition #7 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda). Same problem with reiserfs
[08:43] <Chousuke> Drakonik: if you modify a partition, the data on the partition is lost
[08:43] <Intangir> the wiki is out of date and doesnt help
[08:43] <Chousuke> Drakonik: but if you don't touch a partition, then the data is safe.
[08:43] <Drakonik> So there's no possible way for me to keep my XP install?
[08:43] <Intangir> nm i just found one that worked
[08:43] <NoUse> __doc__ did you install the nvidia-xconfig package?
[08:44] <troytroy> nightcoder: eg "vim -syntax=on config" did not work
[08:44] <Chousuke> Drakonik: the partitioner can also resize some filesystems
[08:44] <gnomefreak> Drakonik: why not everyone else does ;)
[08:44] <zach_> i have a mouse with backward and forward buttons how can i configure them to work in ubuntu and firefox?
[08:44] <Chousuke> gnomefreak: can parted resize ntfs?
[08:44] <jpoje> Drakonik: partition magic :)
[08:44] <Drakonik> Free?
[08:44] <Chousuke> partition magic isn't free. :)
[08:44] <octandeocho>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[08:44] <gnomefreak> Chousuke: yes i am pretty sure it can
[08:44] <__doc__> DBO: http://rafb.net/paste/results/n7ledC97.html
[08:44] <NoUse> Chousuke I used gparted to resize my ntfs drivesr a couple weeks ago, no prob
[08:44] <jpoje> No, it isn't free
[08:44] <avis> disk director by acronis is much better than partition magic
[08:44] <Drakonik> Hm.
[08:45] <jpoje> Of course I can't recommend copyright infringement...
[08:45] <spikeb> hah, partition maggot
[08:45] <Chousuke> Drakonik: so the ubuntu installer can resize your windows partitions
[08:45] <Burgwork> Chousuke, for NTFS, yes it is non-destructive
[08:45] <DBO> __doc__, ok, you have it installed, try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common"
[08:45] <Drakonik> Well, I'd like a free partitioner that will resize my Windows without destorying it.
[08:45] <amarokker> DBO:  back.
[08:45] <nightcoder> troytroy: try open vim without parameters
[08:45] <__doc__> NoUse: there isn't really a way to do the Binary howto "wrong". I did follow it tree time taking great care, all the while arriving at the same result.
[08:45] <nightcoder> and, in interactive mode, type
[08:45] <oezguer> hi
[08:45] <nightcoder> : set syntax on
[08:45] <NoUse> __doc__ did you install the nvidia-xconfig package?
[08:45] <Drakonik> Chousuke: So I can resize my Windows install without losing it?
[08:45] <Chousuke> Drakonik: but you need to choose "edit partitions manually"
[08:45] <Chousuke> Drakonik: yes.
[08:45] <Drakonik> Awesome.
[08:45] <amarokker> and oh yes, i am using dapper
[08:45] <Chousuke> Drakonik: though always make backups of important data. :)
[08:46] <NoUse> __doc__ don't install it if you haven't
[08:46] <Drakonik> Thanks.
[08:46] <Chousuke> Drakonik: if you lose power or something goes wrong...
[08:46] <Drakonik> Yeah.
[08:46] <__doc__> NoUse: no nvidia-xconfig mutually exclusive with nvidia-xgl
[08:46] <Drakonik> Alright.
[08:46] <Drakonik> Edit partition manually, backup data...
[08:46] <NoUse> __doc__ yeah but I thought you mentioned something about it earlier
[08:46] <Drakonik> Keep my feet away from the power strip.
[08:46] <oezguer> i need help :( for Amsn , cos of firewall router  i cant use my cam at Amsn, anyone can help me?  a way without router setting!!!
[08:46] <__doc__> DBO: that apt-get install nvidia common kernel was what I did about 15 minutes ago
[08:46] <Drakonik> Gotcha.
[08:46] <gnomefreak> Drakonik: i would backup first ;)
[08:46] <__doc__> NoUse: no I didn't
[08:47] <Drakonik> Well, I didn't mean in that order.
[08:47] <Drakonik> It'd be silly.
[08:47] <gnomefreak> Drakonik: ive done it :(
[08:47] <zach_> anyone help with dual monitors?
[08:47] <Drakonik> Thanks for answering my questions.
[08:47] <b0ef> Drakonik: isn't your problem that you are trying to put / on a secondary partition?
[08:47] <__doc__> DBO: instructions from this manual here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[08:47] <Drakonik> Yeah, but it's been taken care of b0ef.
[08:47] <M-Rev> Anyone help with installing Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[08:48] <nightcoder> M-Rev: whats your problem ?
[08:48] <hmpedersen> M-Rev, what kinda help ya need?
[08:48] <gnomefreak> M-Rev: what part are you stuck on?
[08:48] <oezguer> i need help :( for Amsn , cos of firewall router  i cant use my cam at Amsn, anyone can help me?  a way without router setting!!!
[08:48] <b0ef> M-Rev: I thought you were Drakonik
[08:48] <octandeocho> anyone help setting up wireless network?
[08:48] <M-Rev> b0ef: no, Im Mikkel :->
[08:48] <DBO> __doc__, and what errors are you getting (sorry, wasnt here when you posted them)
[08:49] <ydnar_> wow, i can't believe this guys -- i have ubuntu completely setup now as a primary desktop
[08:49] <ydnar_> thanks for everyone's help
[08:49] <khermans_> Can someone help me get a MIC input working?
[08:49] <M-Rev> Im trying to put reiserfs or ext3fs on the rootpartition on a logical partition on the extended disk
[08:49] <__doc__> DBO: 's alright, after that sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx I go to xorg.conf and edit driver = "nvidia" then I do ctrl+alt+backspace, then gdm fails to start.
[08:50] <M-Rev> My problem is: when I try tro install Ubuntu 6.06, I get this errmsg: Invalid fs for this mountpoint.... ext3fs for / in partition #7 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda)
[08:50] <DBO> __doc__, you think you can get your /var/log/gdm/:0.log onto pastebin?
[08:50] <wastrel> bah
[08:50] <CactusWiZaRd> hello
[08:50] <nightcoder> M-Rev: whats your partition layout ?
[08:51] <M-Rev> nightcoder: like this: http://pastebin.com/759740
[08:51] <hermes> i want to use java on my firefox (breezy).how?
[08:51] <soundray> !java
[08:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:51] <hermes> !javadebs
[08:51] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[08:51] <__doc__> DBO: that's from the X.org.log.0 just after the failure http://rafb.net/paste/results/nQlfjV68.html
[08:51] <mtoledo> How do I change the initial date of the week in gnome?
[08:51] <M-Rev> nightcoder: scratch that, like this: http://pastebin.com/760391
[08:52] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i open .rar archives with my Ubuntu(Dapper)?
[08:52] <bliss_> hello
[08:52] <DBO> __doc__, I need the gdm log
[08:52] <CactusWiZaRd> !rar
[08:52] <ubotu> rar is, like, totally, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:52] <tkjacobse1> CactusWiZaRd: you need unrar or unrar-nonfree
[08:52] <__doc__> DBO: I don't have the gdm log from just after the try to start and it wouldn't
[08:53] <soundray> mtoledo: Evolution Preferences - Calendar and Tasks
[08:53] <factorx_> can i configure xchat-gnome to display the userlist permanently?
[08:53] <NoUse> DBO I had him do a 'modprobe nvidia' and it came back FATAL: Could not open
[08:53] <NoUse>           '/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or
[08:53] <NoUse>           directory
[08:53] <mtoledo> soundray, thanks.
[08:53] <NoUse> sorry bout that
[08:53] <__doc__> DBO: that the logfiles are trunkated is *really* stupid
[08:53] <nightcoder> M-Rev: why your /boot is fat16 ?
[08:54] <DBO> __doc__, uninstall then reinstall the linux-restricted-modules...
[08:54] <Selaiah> Have problems getting my Wlan (dapper) (Ralink RT2500 on WPA2) to run, anyone experienced in this field?
[08:54] <nightcoder> M-Rev: try using /boot as a ext2 partition
[08:54] <CactusWiZaRd> btw, what's the difference between unrar and unrar-nonfree?
[08:54] <michaels> Azureus's warning are always rendered unreadably and the buttons don't work. anyone know what to do?
[08:54] <M-Rev> nightcoder: makes it easier to have multiple OS's, like Windows in addition
[08:55] <Czar> Whats does LTS stand for?
[08:55] <NoUse> M-Rev you can't have /boot as fat16
[08:55] <soundray> Selaiah: the ralink module in dapper doesn't support WPA as far as I know. You can compile a module with WPA support from more recent sources.
[08:55] <NoUse> Czar Long Term Support
[08:55] <nightcoder> M-Rev: Windows will not use /boot partition
[08:55] <M-Rev> nightcoder: Ubuntu lets me format my disks as ext2fs, ext3fs, reiserfs, so it should be supported
[08:55] <Czar> NoUse: As in Final Release? or is that still something different?
[08:55] <b0ef> M-Rev: grub will install itself in the MBR
[08:55] <NoUse> CactusWiZaRd nonfree is the proprietary version of unrar
[08:55] <KevinIN72> how do i go about installing apache
[08:56] <nightcoder> M-Rev: use ext2fs for your /boot partition
[08:56] <M-Rev> nightcoder: no, but Windows uses it as C:, the first partition, on a scsi-drive
[08:56] <Ron_o> in synapitc package manager, there is a section under <Status> > Not installed (residual config). I gather they are leftover files from deinstallations.
[08:56] <tanath> i'm trying to run a command like such: for i in pattern*; do echo $i; done   and it's not working because the file names have parentheses in them. how do i get around this?
[08:56] <NoUse> Czar its been released, it means its to be supported longer than other releases of ubuntu
[08:56] <soundray> !apache
[08:56] <ubotu> methinks apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:56] <Ron_o> it's safe to remove all of those, right?
[08:56] <KevinIN72> thanks
[08:56] <Czar> NoUse Thank you!
[08:56] <spikeb> Ron_o, yes
[08:56] <Selaiah> soundray: Any hints on where i can possibly read up on how to do that?
[08:56] <CactusWiZaRd> NoUse: and what that means, i'm pretty good at english, but that term is weird to me
[08:56] <b0ef> M-Rev: fsck /boot; there is no use for it
[08:56] <bliss_> whats the command line in parted to check size of partition?
[08:57] <NoUse> CactusWiZaRd proprietary?
[08:57] <tanath> i get zsh: no matches found:
[08:57] <b0ef> grub is able to access secondary partitions, isn't it?
[08:57] <CactusWiZaRd> NoUse: yup
[08:57] <tanath> can anyone help?
[08:57] <nightcoder> M-Rev: Let windows using only their single partition sdb5
[08:57] <M-Rev> b0ef: grub tried to install to /dev/hda0, which seemt very wrong. Because after it restarted, no signs of grub
[08:57] <soundray> Selaiah: I've seen wiki info on that, but I can't remember where exactly.
[08:57] <NoUse> M-Rev change it to ext2, having a Fat parition for boot will cause nothing but problems
[08:57] <ilblasco> bella
[08:57] <MehAdult> !sensors
[08:57] <ubotu> [sensors]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[08:57] <NoUse> CactusWiZaRd not free software
[08:57] <b0ef> M-Rev: that's a bug then; use a boot floppy, then
[08:58] <CactusWiZaRd> NoUse: oh, okay
[08:58] <b0ef> M-Rev: then install grub on the scsi device
[08:58] <__doc__> DBO: looks better http://rafb.net/paste/results/da2A9u11.html, I'll try the nvidia driver now. BBS
[08:58] <soundray> tanath: perhaps you can do what you want with 'fdisk -name pattern* -print0 | xargs -0 echo'
[08:58] <soundray> tanath: perhaps you can do what you want with 'find -name pattern* -print0 | xargs -0 echo'
[08:58] <soundray> tanath: (sorry)
[08:59] <tanath> o.O
[08:59] <DSL_>  /quit
[08:59] <soundray> tanath: still wrong, sorry
[08:59] <soundray> tanath: find /path -name ...
[08:59] <tanath> well, i knew the fdisk one was wrong... fortunately :p
[08:59] <M-Rev> NoUse: But Windows has a hard time reading ext2fs... FAT16 is a fs that everyone has easy rw access to... I want to have multi OS
[08:59] <wastrel> well it's proper bash but i dunno anything about zsh
[09:00] <Shaezsche> i am trying to install a driver and it is giving me error messages because my kernal does not include prebuilt modules? what does that mean????
[09:00] <M-Rev> b0ef: I did install it - grub - manually on /dev/sdb1
[09:00] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: what driver ?
[09:00] <Shaezsche> its an hsf modem driver
[09:00] <Shaezsche> i have problems installing other programs that require compiling a kernel
[09:01] <b0ef> M-Rev: why do you need a /boot partition?; isn't grub able to access secondary partitions?
[09:01] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: are you using default ubuntu kernel ?
[09:01] <Shaezsche> such as acpi4asus
[09:01] <zach_> what do i need to type to enable dual monitors? with ati config
[09:01] <Shaezsche> default? i dont know i used the apt-get install linux headers command
[09:01] <Shaezsche> put a 2.6.15-23-386 in my usr/src
[09:01] <tanath> soundray: that's not right either
[09:01] <zach_> aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1   I've been trying that but no luck
[09:01] <jjazz_> I am trying to get my ipw2200 wireless card working.  I can see it in lspci, but it doesn't show up in iwconfig.  I compiled and modprobed the modules recommended in various howtos, and I'm not sure what my next step would be.  Any advice would be appreciated.
[09:01] <tanath> soundray: find: paths must precede expression
[09:01] <tanath> Usage: find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression] 
[09:01] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: what error messages are you getting ?
[09:02] <Shaezsche> it cannot find prebuilt modules
[09:02] <nevchen_> bis spte
[09:02] <Shaezsche> it needs to configure and compile them i guess
[09:02] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: probably you will need to install kernel-source
[09:02] <Shaezsche> ok, what is the apt-get command for that?
[09:02] <M-Rev> b0ef: perhaps I dont need to mount it as /boot
[09:02] <b0ef> M-Rev: ask in #grub
[09:03] <tanath> how annoying. isn't there a simple way to get this command to work when the filenames contain parentheses? for i in pattern*; do echo $i; done
[09:03] <KevinIN72> Has anyone here ever ran a counterstrike source server on ubuntu
[09:03] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[09:03] <gnomefreak> zach_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo?action=show&redirect=DualMonitors
[09:03] <sergiol> goodbye
[09:03] <spine> can some1 plese explain to me how to get cdrecord to under ubuntu, i used a scsi scanbus sript and that returns: scsi subsystem not active so i cdrecord with devname and it warns me that devname is unsupported then it freezes, BTW i just burned a cd with devname but it wont let me do it again
[09:04] <macsim> hi, anybody use phpeclipse ?
[09:04] <gomek> anyone here have any clue how to set a screensaver on the gdm login screen?
[09:04] <mirak> is there a way to make the kernel use an USB KEY as a cashing media before loading data to hard drive to reduce the spining ?
[09:04] <wastrel> tanath:  works in bash...
[09:04] <b0ef> M-Rev: the only partitions you need is / and a swap
[09:04] <jtd> How do I remove Evolution's configuration files, or just all of Evolution itself so I can start over, without removing ubuntu-desktop as well?
[09:04] <MisterN> hi
[09:04] <spine> al the guis to cdrecord kill my X somehow
[09:04] <nightcoder> spine: are you using a scsi cd recorder ?
[09:04] <roicominutsoup> hi, is there a way to restore ubuntu configuration after a dpkg-reconfigure -a ?
[09:04] <Shaezsche> nightcoder that command does nto work, i get this error E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:04] <Shaezsche> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:04] <spine> nightcoder: IDE
[09:05] <jjazz_> Shaezsche: did you run it as root?
[09:05] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: probably synaptic is open
[09:05] <Ron_o> jtd, I think you're stuck with Evolution.
[09:05] <Shaezsche> i used the sudo command
[09:05] <gnomefreak> Shaezsche: it looks like you have maybe synaptic open?
[09:05] <tanath> wastrel: hrm, echo does work in bash, but oggdec gives file not found errors...
[09:05] <M-Rev> How would you prepare partitions for dual booting GNU/Windows ?
[09:05] <Shaezsche> lol yea
[09:05] <gnomefreak> Shaezsche: or another apt running?
[09:05] <Shaezsche> k thx
[09:05] <jjazz_> Shaezsche: Then, nightcoder is probably right.
[09:05] <mahogny> any way to check recently installed packages?
[09:05] <gnomefreak> Shaezsche: yw
[09:05] <nightcoder> spine: if youre using 2.6 version of kernel you wont need to emulate scsi
[09:05] <mahogny> a suitable log file somewhere?
[09:05] <Shaezsche> OH it looks like i ALREADY had that installed
[09:05] <jtd> Ron_o: I added a mail server to Evolution and it seems to make the app hang.  So I need to remove that server at the very least, but I have no idea where Evolution keeps its configuration files.
[09:06] <octandeocho> anyone help setting up wireless network?
[09:06] <b0ef> M-Rev: this is just a grub setting
[09:06] <Ron_o> I don't know either, jtd..
[09:06] <Shaezsche> now what?
[09:06] <gilianima> how to convert into utf8 an "AppleDouble encoded Macintosh file" ?
[09:06] <Ron_o> have you tried /home/<name>/.evolution?
[09:06] <jjazz_> I am trying to get my ipw2200 wireless card working.  I can see it in lspci, but it doesn't show up in iwconfig.  I compiled and modprobed the modules recommended in various howtos, and I'm not sure what my next step would be.  Any advice would be appreciated.
[09:06] <slackern> mahogny: /var/log/dpkg.log should contain that information for you
[09:06] <mahogny> slackern, thanks
[09:06] <Ron_o> the '.' means it's a hidden file so you must enable hidden files.
[09:06] <spine> nightcoder: so i just let it sit untill it burns it? i got impatient cuz it was only the Gparted live cd, that about 30MB
[09:06] <spine> thats*
[09:06] <jtd> ...
[09:06] <maikol> octandeocho: how far into are you
[09:06] <jtd> Wow, I'm a retard.
[09:06] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: let us to know what error messages are you getting
[09:06] <tanath> wastrel: why would echo work, but not oggdec?
[09:06] <jtd> thanks, Ron_o :)
[09:07] <nightcoder> spine: can you use gnomebaker ? or bonfire ? or k3b ?
[09:07] <juanbobo> hi people running live ubuntu cd to resize a hd  when i apply changes to gparted it goes to the routine but no message and it does not resize the partition,  any log to look at???????  TIA
[09:07] <wastrel> tanath:  echo just spits the string out to stdout, oggdec is then trying to open the file with unquoted special characters in the filename.
[09:07] <hmpedersen> Does dapper install continue after a raboot as breezy did?
[09:07] <zach_> gnomefreak: all that had for ati was an x11 file which was nothing like mine....nor did it have any info on setting up xinerama....
[09:07] <spine> nightcoder: gnome baker kills my X and so do most front ends to cdrecord
[09:07] <hmpedersen> reboot*
[09:07] <Shaezsche> ok its a long msg, should i copy paste in channel? or want me to pm you??
[09:07] <wastrel> tanath:  i'm not enough of a bash guru to fix it but maybe #bash can help
[09:08] <gnomefreak> zach_: it gave you 2 forums posts to look at to teach you how
[09:08] <Ron_o> juanbobo, you must start the changes after you apply them.
[09:08] <Ron_o> try up in the menu.
[09:08] <Ron_o> you should see changes on the screen.
[09:08] <nightcoder> spine: when you X die, did you see any error messages ?
[09:08] <nightcoder> Look in /var/log/messages
[09:08] <jjazz_> !tell Shaezsche about pastebin
[09:08] <Shaezsche> nightcoder here is the first msg i get No pre-built modules for: Ubuntu-6.06 linux-2.6.15-23-386 i686
[09:09] <juanbobo> i dont see the changes in the gparted gui  var log messages does not show naything
[09:09] <mirak> does hdparm.conf overrides the default hard drives settings ?
[09:09] <spine> nightcoder: well die isnt exactly the best word, but my system gets very sluggish and i run all the graphs on the taskbar and they report normal usage but the it freezes and i have to force reboot
[09:09] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: are you using hsf installer ? Or are you trying to compile the driver by hand ?
[09:10] <Shaezsche> hsf installer
[09:10] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: that installer gives you some other option ?
[09:11] <Shaezsche> i dont know why?
[09:11] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: tell me exactly whats your modem (Ill try to find a suitable module for it)
[09:11] <lsuactiafner> root@infant-finite:~# glxinfo | grep dir
[09:11] <lsuactiafner> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:11] <stevekl> Does anyone happen to have any idea how much space dapper would take up if you didn't install Xorg?
[09:11] <lsuactiafner> how do i fix that?
[09:12] <nightcoder> spine: we need some 'error' to work on. Please try run your GUI-cdwriter from a terminal ... and see if it send error messages to console behind it
[09:12] <KevinIN72> !samba
[09:12] <Shaezsche> im on a laptop, its built in to my sound card, ive been told the ID is 82801fb
[09:12] <ubotu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[09:12] <OwlofDoom> hello everyone! has anyone got any experience building ndiswrapper for a custom kernel on dapper?
[09:12] <spine> nightcoder: k, il try k3b, il BRB.
[09:12] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: lspci returns what ?
[09:13] <wastrel> bah i still need to configure modem, printing, mail server, 3d accel, and i haven't finished restoring my backed up files yet either :p  remind me not to upgrade anymore :p
[09:13] <Shaezsche> Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 04)
[09:13] <__doc__> DBO: that's rather interesting. after removing the restricted kernel modules it also removed nvidia-glx
[09:13] <philippic> Hello - would anyone care to help me set my clock with NTP?
[09:14] <__doc__> DBO: then I reinstalled the restricted kernel modules, and glxinfo gives me back lots of good locking info
[09:14] <oezguer> i need help :( for Amsn , cos of firewall router  i cant use my cam at Amsn, anyone can help me?  a way without router setting!!!
[09:14] <jjazz_> philippic: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntulinux.com  should do it.
[09:14] <nightcoder> wastrel: here in almost 5 machines the transition breezy -> dapper was really nice and easy
[09:14] <__doc__> DBO: then I apt-get install nvidia-glx and ctlr+alt+backspace, and all good info's gone
[09:14] <wastrel> nightcoder:  i wanted to repartition so i wiped & installed fresh
[09:14] <__doc__> DBO: back to square one
[09:14] <nightcoder> wastrel: hmmmm
[09:14] <der1> hey guy, does anyone know if its possible to install ubuntu and have windows dual boot with it when you use the 'use largest available space' install option
[09:14] <jjazz_> wastrel: I upgraded to dapper and lost my sound, my dual head config and my wireless card.  I'm still trying to figure it out.
[09:14] <DBO> __doc__, I need that gdm log =)
[09:14] <OwlofDoom> :( has no one here built an ndiswrapper with module-assistant?
[09:15] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I have
[09:15] <maddy> i want to install dapper drake is this want i need ubuntu-6.06-server-amd64
[09:15] <Kyral_FreeBSD> long time ago
[09:15] <philippic> jjazz_: Thanks - I was thinking about running ntpd, but maybe I'll just script ntpdate instead.
[09:15] <nightcoder> derl: your hard disc have 'free space' ?
[09:15] <apokryphos> maddy: do you want to install it for your desktop or for your server?
[09:15] <apokryphos> maddy: and, is it an amd64?
[09:15] <Shaezsche> nightcoder: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 04)
[09:15] <der1> nightcoder, not yet but i can create some with the rescuedisk
[09:15] <maddy> desktop amd 64
[09:15] <jjazz_> philippic: Use cron and run ntpdate daily.  Unless you need super precise time, the daily drift of a few seconds shouldn't be a problem.
[09:15] <der1> freespace is unpartioned space right
[09:15] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: nice. Wait a minute please
[09:16] <apokryphos> maddy: then that's not the one you want
[09:16] <Codenut> t
[09:16] <apokryphos> maddy: get the one that isn't "server"
[09:16] <maddy> apokryphos  ok :)
[09:16] <tanath> wastrel: just needed quotes ("") around $i
[09:16] <OwlofDoom> Kyral_FreeBSD: hmm, i have a feeling this is dapper-specific (the package has the wrong version number when built) but thanks anyway
[09:16] <wastrel> tanath:  so simple, yet so difficult :] 
[09:16] <Kyral_FreeBSD> OwlofDoom: When in doubt, build from source
[09:16] <__doc__> DBO: http://rafb.net/paste/results/MXIA7G80.html
[09:16] <jjazz_> I am trying to get my ipw2200 wireless card working.  I can see it in lspci, but it doesn't show up in iwconfig.  I compiled and modprobed the modules recommended in various howtos, and I'm not sure what my next step would be.  Any advice would be appreciated.  Thanks.
[09:17] <OwlofDoom> Kyral_FreeBSD: yeah, might be best... or i may just go back to the stock kernel.. this'un's been nother but trouble
[09:17] <der1> if I change the size of my windows partition and have a couple gigs without a partition will the ubuntu installer do the rest and make my machine dual bootable?
[09:17] <freezer> hi
[09:17] <der1> or do i have to partition stuff myself for that
[09:17] <wastrel> jjazz_:  i have ipw2200 - worked out of the box w/ dapper
[09:17] <philippic> jjazz_: I have ipw2200 too, works out the box for me too.
[09:17] <jjazz_> wastrel: Hmm... it didn't for me.
[09:17] <DBO> __doc__, your xorg.conf please =)
[09:17] <jjazz_> So why am I so special?
[09:17] <freezer> anyone from the UK here?
[09:17] <mgorbach> does networkmanager support WPA?
[09:18] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: is it your modem device ?
[09:18] <njan> freezer, me, for one.
[09:18] <OwlofDoom> anyhow, thanks everyone
[09:18] <jjazz_> wastrel: philippic:  was that an upgrade from breezy or a fresh dapper install?
[09:18] <OwlofDoom> bye
[09:18] <wastrel> jjazz_:  fresh install for me
[09:18] <philippic> jjazz_: Upgrade from breezy.
[09:18] <Shaezsche> nightcoder: thats all the information i have, i emailed the maker of this laptop about the chipset and they just told me to dl the hsf driver
[09:18] <__doc__> DBO: http://rafb.net/paste/results/xL0sAh64.html
[09:19] <spine> nightcoder i give up, im not using the gparted live cd, im going back to debian with a complete reformat.
[09:19] <Shaezsche> furthermore that program on linuxant detects thats the driver i need
[09:19] <spine> nightcoder, thx though
[09:19] <jjazz_> philippic: I just wish I knew what steps I could take to debug this.
[09:19] <wastrel> jjazz_:  i'm using the stock ubuntu kernel, you rolled your own?
[09:19] <wastrel> hmm i should install the 686 kernel.
[09:19] <der1> still wondering... f when installing ubuntu i select "use largest available space" will it make it dual bootable with my windows?
[09:19] <DBO> __doc__, ok, lets see your xorg.log now... (wow Im confusing even myself with your issue)
[09:19] <jjazz_> wastrel: Nope.  Using the stock kernel.
[09:20] <QPAD|warlock> I typed chmod +x steam to give permission to run the file called steam, but now it answers with: -bash: ./steam: No such file or directory
[09:20] <QPAD|warlock> Anynoe ?
[09:20] <QPAD|warlock> anyone '
[09:20] <philippic> jjazz_: Hmmm. I wonder if you've overwritten something trying to install it manually?
[09:20] <__doc__> DBO: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6TKQoD11.html
[09:21] <maddy_> whats the app to burn CD?
[09:21] <Shaezsche> if i use the sudo command does that mean i am running from root?
[09:21] <jjazz_> philippic: Maybe, but it didn't work at all after I upgraded and rebooted, so whatever I overwrote wasn't correct in the first place.
[09:21] <wastrel> jjazz_:  yeah the stock kernel works for my 2200bg - no fuss no bother :/
[09:21] <jjazz_> wastrel: What does uname -r say for you?
[09:21] <wastrel> 2.6.15-23-386
[09:21] <QPAD|warlock> Anyone got any clues of how to give premission to the file steam so it can run trough ./steam ? (is it chmod +x ./steam or what) ?
[09:21] <DBO> __doc__, does your x server load?
[09:21] <jjazz_> wastrel: I'm using 2.6.12-10-686
[09:21] <apokryphos> QPAD|warlock: yes
[09:21] <njan> QPAD|warlock, yes, that's exactly it.
[09:22] <jjazz_> philippic: What does uname -r say for you?
[09:22] <QPAD|warlock> It is?  but it answers with:
[09:22] <__doc__> DBO: yes it does
[09:22] <QPAD|warlock> root@game-server:/home/cz/swe-randommaps# ./steam
[09:22] <QPAD|warlock> -bash: ./steam: No such file or directory
[09:22] <weedar> Hey, after correcting the time by setting it back two hours I keep getting errors, in console I see "timestamp too far in the future" - Any ideas as to what I should do?
[09:22] <DBO> __doc__, run glxgears in a terminal
[09:22] <maddy_> whats the app to burn CD?
[09:22] <philippic> jjazz_: 2.6.15-23-386
[09:22] <QPAD|warlock> http://pastebin.com/760469
[09:22] <apokryphos> maddy: k3b, gnomebaker....
[09:22] <Wyred> kb3
[09:22] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ac97-modem/
[09:22] <QPAD|warlock> but the file STEAM is there?!
[09:22] <macsim> DBO: gnomebaker
[09:22] <gnomefreak> maddy_: gnomebaker, k3b,cdrecord .....
[09:22] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: this is your driver ?
[09:22] <wastrel> 2.6.15 seems to be the current kernel in dapper - at least for i386
[09:22] <CrippsFX> maddy, mkisofs, cdrecord
[09:22] <apokryphos> QPAD|warlock: then you're executing it from the wrong directory
[09:22] <CrippsFX> ;)
[09:22] <QPAD|warlock> Im not, im in the dir..
[09:22] <jjazz_> wastrel philippic: Maybe I should use the same kernel as you folks.
[09:23] <hmpedersen> Hmm..
[09:23] <DBO> macsim, what???
[09:23] <gnomefreak> nautilus will burn cds also
[09:23] <__doc__> DBO: runs, but it sort of jumps
[09:23] <Wyred> brb
[09:23] <hmpedersen> That's weird..
[09:23] <philippic> jjazz_: Probably :)
[09:23] <__doc__> DBO: I suspect that's software renderer
[09:23] <Shaezsche> nightcoder: it might be i dont know, but that file to download is broken
[09:23] <philippic> jjazz_: I asked you a question in private too, about whether the module is loaded.
[09:23] <hmpedersen> Does anyone know if it's normal for xchat (windows) to loose the menu?
[09:23] <macsim> DBO: sorry wrong person
[09:23] <wastrel> i'm installing the 686 kernel now :]   it's also 2.6.15
[09:23] <macsim> DBO: was for maddy
[09:23] <QPAD|warlock> apokryphos, im in the dir /home/cz/swe-randommaps and im trying to execute ./steam, http://pastebin.com/760469 - see the file steam is in there..
[09:23] <der1> has anybody installed a dual boot onto a windows machine using Dapper's "largest available space" install option?
[09:24] <DBO> __doc__, glxgears -printfps
[09:24] <der1> will it work?
[09:24] <bananafly> does anyone here have a HP Pavillion, with the default MBR?
[09:24] <Sum1> Anyone found that when they tried to install Dapper, the system locks at 92% (detecting hardware)? Can only find one comment about it (bottom of http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1069590) but it's just happened to me.
[09:24] <bananafly> i kind of fucked up mine, including the part. table
[09:24] <wastrel> !language
[09:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[09:24] <jjazz_> philippic: I didn't get it for some reason.  Bu the module is loaded.  lsmod | grep ipw shows ipw2200, ieee80211, ieee80211_crypt and firmware_class
[09:24] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bananafly -about language
[09:24] <apokryphos> QPAD|warlock: that's very weird; maybe friends in #bash could be more helpful
[09:24] <bananafly> sorry
[09:25] <__doc__> DBO: 3664 frames in 5.1 seconds = 722.356 FPS
[09:25] <philippic> jjazz_: Unload the module with modprobe -r..
[09:25] <jjazz_> philippic: which one
[09:25] <__doc__> DBO: alright so it seems right now I have gl support
[09:25] <philippic> jjazz_: and load it again. See what dmesg or kern.log says.
[09:25] <DBO> __doc__, seems that way
[09:25] <wastrel> QPAD|warlock:  ./steam is referencing a file that doesn't exist - maybe in the bangpath
[09:25] <wastrel> (my guess)
[09:25] <philippic> jjazz_: I'd try modprobe -r ipw2200
[09:25] <bananafly> anyway does someone have a HP Pavillion, one of those with 250GB HDDs and a recovery partition?
[09:26] <philippic> and then modprobe ipw2200.
[09:26] <Shaezsche> what does it mean to run commands from root?
[09:26] <__doc__> DBO: so now I need to install nvidia-glx again?
[09:26] <jjazz_> philippic: ipw2200-bss.fw request_firmware failed: Reason -2
[09:26] <jjazz_> philippic: Maybe I have the wrong firmware version installed.
[09:26] <Drakonik> Okay, I've got Norton Partition Maigc 8, and i'm making a partition for ubuntu.
[09:26] <msid> my system gets stuck on boot when it saying mounting the root filesystem and it does not do anything for 10'. any ideas how to solve this thing ?
[09:27] <avis> what ports need to be open for samba to work on ubuntu ?
[09:27] <maddy_> when installing dapper drake can i choose to build my kernel during install?
[09:27] <Drakonik> What type of files system shoudl it be?
[09:27] <DBO> __doc__, why??? its working
[09:27] <philippic> jjazz_: That's a good start then...
[09:27] <__doc__> DBO: alright ^^
[09:27] <gnomefreak> what is the gnome default cd player called?
[09:27] <jjazz_> philippic: Yes.  Good usggestion.  Thanks
[09:27] <__doc__> DBO: continuing with other glx instructions now
[09:27] <gnomefreak> watch it be cdplayer :(
[09:27] <avis> ugh :(
[09:27] <jjazz_> avis Netbios ports are 137-139
[09:27] <avis> i helped people.  oh well google time.  i'm a lazy poop.
[09:28] <avis> thank you :)
[09:28] <simonpca> plop
[09:28] <Drakonik> NTFS, Linuxext2, Linuxext3, Linux swap?
[09:28] <wastrel> ok i'mna reboot with my fancy new 686 kernel l8r
[09:29] <Sum1> Is there a good faq for problems people have had with installing Dapper?
[09:29] <apokryphos> Sum1: /topic
[09:29] <watson540> hrmm
[09:29] <philippic> jjazz_: Google thinks you have the wrong firmware version..
[09:29] <shwag> how do I setup my bluetooth  mouse?
[09:29] <Sum1> apokryphos: thanks. didn't find my problem there, unfortunately.
[09:29] <gomek> anyone here have any clue how to set a screensaver on the gdm login screen?
[09:30] <Drakonik> Any ideas on what file system my Ubuntu should be?
[09:30] <apokryphos> Sum1: what is it?
[09:30] <Jemt> Greetz. I have just installed Ubuntu Dapper. Am I the only one having graphical errors on my buttons? A lot of dashed stribes are visible on top of the buttons
[09:30] <Drakonik> Does it matter?
[09:30] <Pupeno_> I am trying to compile dsywindows, when I run autogen.sh I get the error "aclocal: configure.ac: 31: macro `AM_PROG_CC_C_O' not found in library", any ideas ?
[09:30] <hmpedersen> oh.. gettin closer now..
[09:30] <apokryphos> Drakonik: ext3 is default
[09:30] <Shaezsche> how do i issue commands from root?
[09:30] <Shaezsche> is that what sudo does?
[09:30] <Drakonik> ALright.
[09:30] <Sum1> apokryphos: system hangs at 92 percent installed "detecting hardware".
[09:30] <Drakonik> That's what I'll go with.
[09:30] <apokryphos> Shaezsche: /topic
[09:30] <hmpedersen> I can almost -see- dapper booting (97% installed) :)
[09:30] <Sum1> apokryphos: Breezy had no problem.
[09:30] <apokryphos> Sum1: hm, haven't seen that no. I recommend trying to install with the alternate cd
[09:30] <Wyred> Shaezsche, yeah thats what sudo is for
[09:31] <Weirdbro> !tell Shaezsche about sudo
[09:31] <jjazz_> philippic: Yes, I'm googling the error now too.  What page are you looking at?
[09:31] <Wyred> anyone know the ftp url for mulitverse?
[09:31] <gomek> bwahahaha, i figured it out.
[09:31] <apokryphos> Wyred: same as http but with ftp://
[09:31] <bananafly> is there any tool that can recreate partition tables, and find the beginning of the lost partition?
[09:31] <Sum1> apokryphos: Okay, will do. Unfortunately, I now can't burn the alternate cd because I have one cd drive and a wiped hard drive! Typical ;)
[09:31] <meuserj> bananafly, gpart
[09:31] <__doc__> DCO: thx, that reinstall of the restricted kernel modules seems to have been it, and in this case installation of the nvidia-glx stuff is really missleading
[09:32] <Wyred> just had to reinstall ubuntu, after trying sarge
[09:32] <apokryphos> Sum1: dang 8). You've tried to install with the desktop CD more than once?
[09:32] <meuserj> bananafly, http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/
[09:32] <bananafly> meuserj, can it find my lost partition too?
[09:32] <jjazz_> Wyred: ubuntu is a lot closer to etch/sid than sarge.
[09:32] <msid> my system gets stuck on boot when it saying mounting the root filesystem and it does not do anything for 10'. any ideas how to solve this thing ?
[09:32] <meuserj> bananafly, that's what it does
[09:32] <Wyred> yeah, sarge never can find my internet connection
[09:32] <Sum1> apokryphos: Nope, just thought I'd check if it was a common problem first. It's weird that the livecd has no problem detecting hardware, but suddenly does on install. What other hardware is it likely to be looking at?
[09:33] <Wyred> yet ubuntu, or kubuntu does
[09:33] <zuhause01xx> hello does anybody here run limewire inside ubuntu, i am pretty new to ubuntu and dont know how to install it.. :)
[09:33] <jtd> does anyone here have a Wacom tablet, and can they explain to me how they got it working?  Ubuntu seems not to have installed support for it by default
[09:33] <bananafly> meuserj, this ain't the same thing as gparted, right?
[09:33] <jjazz_> Wyred: If you really want sarge, you can bring up the connection manually during install.
[09:33] <apokryphos> Sum1: no idea. I'd try the desktop CD once more; it's certainly not a common issue though
[09:33] <jtd> zuhause01xx: you want Frostwire instead.
[09:33] <intelikey> msid make the root partition about 3g  rather than 200g  in size ?
[09:33] <stevekl> Can someone point me into the direction that I need to install dapper on a machine without a monitor (using a serial cable, i've never done it and am confused as heck)
[09:33] <meuserj> bananafly, right... different programs
[09:33] <Wyred> jjazz_, it never finds it, even after I use my full ip, hostname etc etc
[09:33] <zuhause01xx> ok, thanks ilkl check that out
[09:33] <jjazz_> Wyred: I've been in that situation where I can bring it up myself (by specifying the essid), but the installer for some reason doesn't.
[09:33] <Sum1> apokryphos: I found the same issue at the bottom of http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1069590... but no other references to it, and no solutions there.
[09:34] <jjazz_> Wyred: weird
[09:34] <Sum1> apokryphos: oh well, I'll try again and see what happens. Thanks for the help!
[09:34] <Wyred> my pc uses eth1
[09:34] <jjazz_> Wyred: I guess that's a good reason to use ubuntu, then.
[09:34] <Wyred> as the main connection
[09:34] <nightcoder> Shaezsche: your driver is linuxant ?
[09:34] <msid> intelikey: what kind of answer is this? i cannot even boot on my system and i have data on it. and it is auto partitioned the way the installer did it.
[09:34] <facefaceface> yo yo yo
[09:34] <Wyred> and eth0, is a dormant eth port
[09:34] <facefaceface> I 'have update
[09:34] <intelikey> msid you can not boot ?
[09:34] <hmpedersen> I don't get why I can't read the dapper disc from my bootable dvd drive..
[09:35] <shwag> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto  seems to be out of date.
[09:35] <msid> intelikey: no
[09:35] <facefaceface> but they are all unsigned. I think I am missing a gpg key
[09:35] <hmpedersen> Oh well.. Gonna unplug it and reboot so i can install from the other one..
[09:35] <hmpedersen> ahh.. now laptop is installing grub :)
[09:35] <intelikey> what did you upgrade that cause the inabilty to boot msid ?
[09:35] <Wyred> hmpedersen,  saved it as a data file instead of a bootable media
[09:35] <Wyred> ?
[09:36] <facefaceface> when I click
[09:36] <msid> intelikey: i just did a fresh installation. and it doesn't work
[09:36] <valberg> when upgrading to ubuntu 6.06 LTS I get this:
[09:36] <rackerz> can someone help me setup my webcam at all?
[09:36] <valberg> Could not calculate the upgrade
[09:36] <valberg> A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug.
[09:36] <facefaceface> sorry, when I click 'update' it says - you are upgrading unverified packavges
[09:36] <bananafly> when I try to run gpart i get an Acces denied error, what's wrong?
[09:36] <hmpedersen> bbl
[09:37] <meuserj> bananafly, you can't run it and scan the drive that you are booted to... you need to make abootdisk
[09:37] <zuhause01xx> cool thanks jtd!! ;)
[09:37] <facefaceface> 'not authenticated'
[09:37] <facefaceface> am I missing a key from some repo somewhere?
[09:37] <meuserj> bananafly, if I recall.. I may be wrong.. it is on the Ubuntu live CD
[09:38] <sanmarcos> what is the difference between server and normal?
[09:38] <intelikey> msid the you don't have data on the root system in the sense of valuable files that need to be saved.    you did a fresh install and it wont boot.   reinstall it.  and use expert mode.
[09:38] <bananafly> how handy!
[09:38] <apokryphos> sanmarcos: server has no desktop things, i.e. X, GNOME, etc
[09:38] <facefaceface> sanmarcos, in what context?
[09:38] <paul_> Can someone point me in the right direction for setting up a linksys wireless router ?
[09:38] <abo> is there a project manager like program in ubuntu?
[09:38] <msid> intelikey: i have data, it worked until i rebooted it for the first time
[09:38] <meuserj> abo, planner
[09:38] <facefaceface> paul_, you can config it manually by going to 192.168.1.1
[09:39] <sanmarcos> apokryphos: not even in the repos?
[09:39] <apokryphos> sanmarcos: what?
[09:39] <jjazz_> paul_: Go to 192.168.1.1.  Username is admin.  pasword is blank.
[09:39] <facefaceface> paul_, or google ... - I booted into windows actualy
[09:39] <abo> meuserj, thanks
[09:39] <intelikey> msid then again i ask what you changed (between the time it booted correctly and the time it failed to boot)  ?
[09:39] <apokryphos> sanmarcos: the server install is just an install made specifically for servers (hosting websites etc). The desktop install is what you'd want, most probably
[09:39] <sanmarcos> apokryphos: on the install cds no gnome, but its on the repos, right?
[09:39] <meuserj> abo, np
[09:39] <paul_> cool thanks foks
[09:39] <sanmarcos> apokryphos: no, else I would not be askijng
[09:39] <facefaceface> can anyone hear me?
[09:39] <sanmarcos> anyways, I got my answers, thanks apokryphos
[09:40] <apokryphos> sanmarcos: the install CDs have gnome, presuming you don't have a server CD
[09:40] <DBO> facefaceface, no, you'll have to speak up
[09:40] <jacopoexchange> does anyone knows where i can find the package "qtutils" in binary?
[09:40] <ajeeb> Is there a way to share a directory from the filesystem via USB?
[09:40] <intelikey> msid if a system boots one time and the next time it doesn't,  something changed.
[09:40] <avis> i tried to setup samba to share my home directory through smb4k because i thought it would be easy but i could not do it
[09:40] <msid> intelikey: yes, data got on the hard drive. isn't that unusual now ?
[09:40] <facefaceface> OK, IS THIS ... loud enough -- ahem... 'Apply the following changes'... Warning... You are about to install softwar that can be authenticated.... what shoudl I do?
[09:40] <avis> i opened 137-139 on this machine
[09:41] <ajeeb> that is can my ubuntu laptop server as a USB hardrive/mem stroage for another device?
[09:41] <intelikey> msid what data ?
[09:41] <apokryphos> facefaceface: no shouting please; we hear you. If someone is able/willing to help, they will :)
[09:41] <avis> i need an easy way to share my home dir
[09:41] <msid> intelikey: MY data
[09:41] <facefaceface> apokryphos, only joking
[09:41] <facefaceface> just my little joke
[09:41] <intelikey> msid a file called vmlinux perhaps ?
[09:41] <facefaceface> !tell facefaceface about authenticated
[09:42] <msid> intelikey: word documents, mp3, videos
[09:42] <DBO> apokryphos, facefaceface was only responding to a joke I made... yell at me instead =P
[09:42] <facefaceface> !tell facefaceface about packages
[09:42] <DBO> !msgthebot
[09:42] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:42] <jjazz_> !tell facefaceface about msgthebot
[09:42] <blaster8> Is anyone using an Atheros card with the original madwifi drivers on dapper successfully?
[09:42] <blaster8> reference: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/37773
[09:42] <facefaceface> OK, I get it
[09:42] <avis> !tell avis about samba
[09:42] <intelikey> msid none of the will affect the system.    what else did you change ?
[09:42] <zipper_> Grr, no matter what i try, i cannot get my monitor to be the primary screen instead of my tv. Any hints? My xorg.conf :  http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1742
[09:43] <stbrenner> new red hot chili peppers album = awesome
[09:43] <msid> intelikey: i am not in the mood to play with words man. i say it for the last time, NOTHING
[09:43] <eNons3nse> to get my ATi card working do I just need install the "fglrx" package?
[09:43] <intelikey> then it will still boot.
[09:43] <msid> intelikey: it doesn't
[09:43] <ghozt> !nvu
[09:43] <M-Rev> stbrenner: if its more Californication than One Hot Minute/Blood Sugar, its probably not
[09:43] <ubotu> hmm... nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[09:43] <valberg> ahh.. the reason was some unwanted repos
[09:44] <stbrenner> M-Rev, it's funky :)
[09:44] <TimothyP> Hello, in latest ubuntu/gnome when I hold my mouse over an MP3 file it starts playing, but the players in ubuntu can't play it, what do Ineed to do
[09:44] <stbrenner> get w32codecs
[09:44] <TimothyP> and why is it gnome can preview these files
[09:44] <TimothyP> apt-get can't find it
[09:44] <M-Rev> stbrenner: I've read its very soft, sweet and laidback, like Californication
[09:44] <apokryphos> TimothyP: see teh FAQ in /topic
[09:44] <valberg> dam'it! that wasn't the reason... i still get: Could not calculate the upgrade
[09:44] <valberg>  A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug.
[09:44] <stbrenner> oooh
[09:44] <TimothyP> k
[09:44] <stbrenner> you want that preview thing...
[09:45] <TimothyP> no the preview works
[09:45] <TimothyP> that just it
[09:45] <stbrenner> M-Rev, do you believe everything you read?
[09:45] <TimothyP> if that works that means there's support for MP3 somewhere :p
[09:45] <TimothyP> but it only works in preview not in applications :)
[09:45] <intelikey> msid i'm in no mood to play either.  you havent described any problem you just said "it will not boot... after i rebooted"   thus it did boot.  but now doesn't  unless you can give us some error message to work with, or remember what you changed that might have caused it.  i can not help.
[09:45] <jjazz_> !tell TimothyP about w32codecs
[09:45] <apokryphos> TimothyP: interesting, it shouldn't; mp3 is a patented format.
[09:45] <jjazz_> Maybe that will help?
[09:45] <TimothyP> I know that's just it :)
[09:45] <eNons3nse> to get my ATi card working do I just need install the "fglrx" package?
[09:45] <Anusien2> If I'm starting over from scratch to set up a dual boot, I just need to clear out the hard disk, set up a partition for windows through the windows installer, put Windows there, then put up a Linux partition and put ubuntu there?
[09:45] <TimothyP> why does it ?
[09:45] <shwag> I need someone to explain to me how to use the Respository Selection dialog in Synaptic. All the HowTos are out of date. wtf?
[09:45] <apokryphos> and guys, the mp3 codecs in ubuntu are NOT w32 codecs
[09:46] <lordgreg> can someone please tell me how to install the "add/remove applications". i think i accidentely removed it. now it's gone. it's not even in Alacarte
[09:46] <TabooTreez> heyyyy
[09:46] <TabooTreez> newbs
[09:46] <ghozt> would apt-get grab the newest nvu?
[09:46] <jacopoexchange> eNons3nse, i tried to install fglrx, but doesn't work too well in dapper
[09:46] <TabooTreez> anyone know a good windows irc client
[09:46] <jacopoexchange> and i switched back to linux ati
[09:46] <TabooTreez> right now im running bitchx threw cygwig
[09:46] <dfccbn> hi has anyone tried using ubuntu + XGL inside of qemu?
[09:46] <TimothyP> I figured win32 codecs were WMA and the likes
[09:46] <apokryphos> TabooTreez: xchat ;-)
[09:46] <palo> Is there any way to push updates to ubuntu clients from an ubuntu server?
[09:46] <TabooTreez> xchat cost money on windows
[09:46] <ghozt> TabooTreez:  mIRC on windows
[09:46] <jjazz_> TimothyP: I believe it's a bunch of proprietary codecs.  Some win specific, but not all.
[09:47] <TabooTreez> mirc blows
[09:47] <TabooTreez> i want something like konversation
[09:47] <TabooTreez> that kicks ass
[09:47] <TimothyP> ok but still I haven't got it and yet gnome plays them :p
[09:47] <ghozt> TabooTreez: try hyrdairc then
[09:47] <apokryphos> TabooTreez: it doesn't cost anything on windoze
[09:47] <intelikey> msid there are only two things that cause a system to "stop" booting.  software change  or hardware failure.
[09:47] <apokryphos> TabooTreez: heh, oh wait, I see you have to register. That is funny.
[09:47] <linkd> xchat on windows is free. just the offical precompiled binaries arent. silverex precompiled binaries are free. google "silverex" for more info
[09:47] <TabooTreez> no funny
[09:47] <apokryphos> dual license, like Qt
[09:47] <TabooTreez> lame
[09:47] <eNons3nse> jacopoexchange:  so if i install linux-ati, turn of my computer and swap out the card it will work when i turn it back on?  or are there other things to do?  and will linux-ati work with compiz & such?
[09:47] <Anusien2> To set up a dual boot Windows/Ubuntu, If I'm starting over from scratch to set up a dual boot, I just need to clear out the hard disk, set up a partition for windows through the windows installer, put Windows there, then put up a Linux partition and put ubuntu there?
[09:48] <jjazz_> TimothyP: I don't know what that's about.  I suspect demonic possession.
[09:48] <TimothyP> hehe
[09:48] <Sadek-> Hey I want to move a file to /usr/share/firefox/icons but it says I don't have access, how do I give myself access to do this?
[09:48] <nightcoder> Anusien2: yes
[09:48] <sk4jvoker> how can i chage the permission to the file
[09:48] <Anusien2> nightcoder2: of course it'll never be that easy, but here's to trying
[09:48] <valberg> Sadek-, run sudo mv from-file to-file
[09:48] <apokryphos> Anusien2: see the FAQ in /topic
[09:48] <intelikey> Sadek- sudo
[09:48] <jjazz_> sk4jvoker: man chmod
[09:49] <sk4jvoker> thanks
[09:49] <ajeeb> Does my question make sense a all: can i export/share files via USB to a device like an mp3 player?
[09:49] <jacopoexchange> Nons3nse: i'm just a newbie, all i have done was just apt-get remove xorg-fglrx-driver and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with ati instead of fglrx
[09:49] <jjazz_> ajeeb: depends on the player
[09:49] <intelikey> sk4jvoker which file may i ask ?
[09:49] <jjazz_> ajeeb: some players can be mounted like usb drives.  Other ones require you use an application
[09:49] <jacopoexchange> eNons3nse: i'm just a newbie, all i have done was just apt-get remove xorg-fglrx-driver and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with ati instead of fglrx
[09:50] <ghozt> ooo nvu is nice.
[09:50] <uscg_corey> anyone using dapper and totem-xine plugin for ff1.5 experiencing really bright streaming video pictures?
[09:50] <Anusien2> On the upside, I'm getting good at this "Installing OSes" thing
[09:50] <facefaceface> what is the equivelent term for a reop with atp vs. yum?
[09:50] <QPAD|warlock> how can i support 32 binaries to run under 64 -bit kernel ?
[09:50] <Anusien2> QPAD|warlock: you need to set up a 32bit chroot
[09:50] <ajeeb> jjazz: no, I m asking if my laptop could be the "usb driver" that the device would mount... can that be done?
[09:50] <facefaceface> get three coffins ready... no make that 4
[09:50] <QPAD|warlock> Anusien2, how do i do that ?
[09:51] <Anusien2> QPAD|warlock: um, let me look.  I have the script saved somewhere, but I'll find the forum post
[09:51] <tomas__> can anyone tell me if there is any tools (gui) in gnome for handling tv-out & multiple monitors?
[09:51] <meuserj> ajeeb, no.. that can't be done... you are trying to use a USB perifial as the host... doesn't work
[09:51] <facefaceface> repo to yum is what to apt?
[09:52] <sk4jvoker> ok how can i see the permisions of file
[09:52] <intelikey> facefaceface see /etc/apt/sources.list    or  man apt-get
[09:52] <facefaceface> ah... man
[09:52] <intelikey> sk4jvoker ls -l
[09:52] <[NP] Tangent> wooooooooo
[09:52] <ajeeb> meuserj: are there any projects to make that happen that i could try?
[09:52] <[NP] Tangent> got my upgrade to Dapper done
[09:52] <[NP] Tangent> now I just need to find a make sure my DNS always works
[09:52] <stbrenner> hmm
[09:53] <tritium> [NP] Tangent: how is it not working?
[09:53] <meuserj> ajeeb, unless the mp3 player is capable of being in host mode, then this is impossible.. I don't know of any that can do this.
[09:53] <eNons3nse> jacopoexchange: Thanks for the help.
[09:53] <intelikey> sk4jvoker may i ask what error you are getting   (assuming errors)
[09:53] <stbrenner> is there anyway to view the .wine directory in the file browser?
[09:53] <stbrenner> oof
[09:53] <stbrenner> just saw it
[09:53] <intelikey> stbrenner view hidden
[09:53] <ajeeb> meuserj: thanks
[09:53] <sk4jvoker> i get a error when i try to login
[09:53] <meuserj> ajeeb, np
[09:54] <intelikey> sk4jvoker what error ?
[09:54] <[NP] Tangent> tritium: it's working now, but it likes to default to not working
[09:54] <[NP] Tangent> just editing the GNOME network manager settings real quickly solves it
[09:54] <sk4jvoker> the file .dmrc needs to have 644 permision
[09:54] <[NP] Tangent> but it keeps setting my router as a DNS lookup server
[09:54] <tritium> [NP] Tangent: what ISP do you have?
[09:54] <[NP] Tangent> which doesn't work
[09:55] <tritium> [NP] Tangent: Qwest DSL with Actiontec modem?
[09:55] <sk4jvoker> and i can not login to my profile
[09:55] <[NP] Tangent> yes
[09:55] <tritium> I knew it...
[09:55] <TimothyP> damn the new ubuntu is FAST
[09:55] <[NP] Tangent> I love the new Ubuntu
[09:55] <siezer> uh.... where can I find the 'normal' (non dvd sized)  installation iso for dapper?
[09:55] <[NP] Tangent> it's pretty fancy
[09:55] <intelikey> sk4jvoker then chmod 644 /home/sk4jvoker/.dmrc       or rm it.
[09:55] <TimothyP> bootime is superb and the ui is so responsive
[09:55] <boogaloo> there's a new ubuntu ?
[09:55] <tritium> [NP] Tangent: in your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, prepend the DNS servers (the proper ones)
[09:55] <meuserj> sk4jvoker, chmod 644 .dmrc
[09:55] <[NP] Tangent> ah
[09:55] <[NP] Tangent> thanks
[09:56] <sk4jvoker> ok will try thanks
[09:56] <gnomefreak> boogaloo: dapper
[09:56] <TimothyP> now I need to find a way to convert 1TB of data without losing it to ReiserFS or Ext3
[09:56] <boogaloo> ok*
[09:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ..from?
[09:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> TimothyP: from?
[09:56] <TimothyP> NTFS
[09:56] <QPAD|warlock> Anyone know where to get the old ubuntu version then dapper drake which is on the ubuntu.com download page; I need a version for my 2 intel xeon proccesors on 64-bit.
[09:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ..hehe thats gonna be FUN
[09:56] <chavo> siezer, it's the alternative CD
[09:56] <DBO> TimothyP, lots and lots of DVD's
[09:56] <Alacrit> gparted
[09:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> TimothyP: a full TB you say? :P
[09:56] <tritium> [NP] Tangent: like this:  prepend domain-name-servers 205.171.3.65, 205.171.2.65;
[09:56] <TimothyP> got 1 terrabyte of NTFS data, near enough 2 terrabyte of space
[09:57] <TimothyP> but 500GB of that is on external drive
[09:57] <Ariel_> hello everyone
[09:57] <jpoje> TimothyP: that's a lot of pr0n ;o
[09:57] <TimothyP> I wish :)
[09:57] <dfccbn> anyone used dapper with qemu succesfully?
[09:57] <tritium> [NP] Tangent: your nameservers may be different.
[09:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> TimothyP: oh in that case...just shrinkout the NTFS down to as far as you can
[09:57] <boogaloo> the new ubuntu needs a most powerfull computer ?
[09:57] <fonto> join #symfony
[09:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> boogaloo: nope
[09:57] <DBO> dfccbn, you mean dapper as hoster or hostie?
[09:57] <boogaloo> yeah
[09:57] <jpoje> boogaloo: I'm running it on a 500mhz lappy
[09:57] <BHSPitMonkey> hey all
[09:57] <TimothyP> I've to deal with 7 hard drives, there's not much spacing out :p
[09:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> boogaloo: Same requirements
[09:57] <boogaloo> i'm still with the breezy
[09:57] <dfccbn> DBO, hostie
[09:57] <gnomefreak> boogaloo: no im running dapper on a 450mhz 512 ram P2
[09:57] <boogaloo> ok
[09:57] <boogaloo> nice
[09:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> boogaloo: you can upgrade freely
[09:57] <jpoje> boogaloo: Dapper is noticably faster
[09:57] <DBO> dfccbn, donno, dont see why not
[09:58] <TimothyP> but I'm willing to put some time in it, so might just have to bring a few external drives of 500GB from work
[09:58] <TimothyP> but can I format an external drive as ReiserFS?
[09:58] <[NP] Tangent> hey tritium
[09:58] <TimothyP> don't care about windows compatibility
[09:58] <[NP] Tangent> can I put in more than one?
[09:58] <jpoje> gnomefreak: I'm going to steal some of your RAM ;(
[09:58] <BHSPitMonkey> is the Alternate CD good for just regular text installations? I find the installer in the livecd to be prone to hanging
[09:58] <dfccbn> DBO, is xgl already in there, and do you think it would work?
[09:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> boogaloo: Doncha llove  Linux and not have to buy a new Computer to use the new upgrades?
[09:58] <meuserj> TimothyP,
[09:58] <meuserj> TimothyP, yes
[09:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> TimothyP: I would say Reiser blows
[09:58] <boogaloo> huhu
[09:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> TimothyP: Go with JFS or ext3
[09:58] <TimothyP> blows as in good or bad and why
[09:58] <gnomefreak> jpoje: ;)
[09:58] <DBO> dfccbn, xgl is not installed by default, nor will it work in a VM
[09:58] <tritium> [NP] Tangent: see my example above.  I added 2
[09:58] <gnomefreak> i only have 256 in other pc on dapper
[09:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> TimothyP: For one it takes a LONG time to mount the FS
[09:59] <msikma> Hmm. I've been trying to update an old 400 MHz laptop to Dapper for a few times now (from Breezy). The automated installer constantly fails.
[09:59] <Anusien2> QPAD|warlock: Somewhere someone wrote a script that does this, which I can't find, but try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[09:59] <meuserj> TimothyP, I disagree... ReiserFS is the best one out there
[09:59] <dfccbn> DBO, ah ok, thanks
[09:59] <[NP] Tangent> oh
[09:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> and 2) I just had a very bad experiance with it and my data
[09:59] <mrw> where is the /dev/null on ubuntu?  Why don't I see it in /dev/?  is it somewhere else?
[09:59] <msikma> It says that it can't get an exclusive lock on a certain directory in /var.
[09:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Wee FS Wars :D
[09:59] <intelikey> TimothyP yes external drive or internal drive  makes no differance.  mkfs.rieserfs /dev/<devicee.node>
[09:59] <[NP] Tangent> sorry tritium, it split it onto two lines above
[09:59] <meuserj> heh
[09:59] <tritium> meuserj: yeah, best at corrupting my FS, twice!  ;)
[09:59] <jpoje> gnomefreak: my desktop has a gig - I'm just too cheap/lazy to try and put in another stick of ram into this laptop
[09:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Seriously, give JFS a shot
[09:59] <mrw> msikma: more than likely the command you are using needs sudo power.  sudo command
[09:59] <BlueNinja> If I may intrude... Since my upgrade to Dapper, I can't lock screen. If someone has an answer, please send it in a query.
[09:59] <QPAD|warlock> Any ideas of which one i should use for intel xeons x2 running on  64bits? is it: 64-bit PC (AMD64) install CD ? I want breezy badger.
[09:59] <gnomefreak> jpoje: i know that feeling (i hate laptops)
[09:59] <DBO> ReiserFS is like a rocket, it goes really fast for a short while, then it explodes
[10:00] <Kyral_FreeBSD> bingo
[10:00] <tritium> indeed
[10:00] <schloob> does anyone know if it's possible to get a system tray/notification area in the ion3 window manager?
[10:00] <Kyral_FreeBSD> when in doubt, use ext3 :D
[10:00] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tried and true
[10:00] <jpoje> BlueNinja: ctrl-alt-l
[10:00] <meuserj> TimothyP, if you have space in several different drives that you want to use, you should also check out using LVM.. makes all you drives look like one giant drive
[10:00] <BlueNinja> jpoje: I'll try it
[10:00] <sk4jvoker> still no go i get the following message when i try to login to gnome
[10:00] <msikma> mrw: I'm not using a command
[10:00] <luca__> ciao
[10:00] <Anusien2> QPAD|warlock: here it is.  this worked 100% for me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157412&highlight=chroot+32bit+script
[10:00] <mrw> msikma: nm then, I came in halfway on your conversation :)
[10:00] <OneSeventeen> How do I disable the sound that plays at the logon screen?
[10:00] <msikma> mrw: I'm using the automated installer. The one you get when you click on "upgrade" from the updater.
[10:00] <tritium> OneSeventeen: yes
[10:00] <BlueNinja> jpoje: nothing happens
[10:01] <TimothyP> one more thing I do have with ubuntu is we have a server with hardware raid, and I configured a raid array there but ubuntu kept seeing it as seperate drives so we had to go for software raid instead :p
[10:01] <DBO> TimothyP, you have fakeRAID
[10:01] <tritium> OneSeventeen: System->Preferences->Sounds, and change the sounds for Log out to "No sound"
[10:01] <DBO> TimothyP, its not TRUE hardware raid, its actually software raid that is managed with a system driver
[10:02] <dos000> when generating openssl certificate authorities it does not look like you can define the startdate !
[10:02] <li1> how do i set tv-out? i've got an svideo cable connected to the tv
[10:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Yanno, one of these days I'm gonna write something that replaces Synaptic
[10:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> with PERL!! :P
[10:02] <TimothyP> why does reiserFS explode?
[10:02] <tritium> li1: nvidia?
[10:02] <Anusien2> I'm trying to set up Windows XP as a dual boot with Ubuntu.  The Windows install doesn't seem to want to let me partition my hard disk into two pieces.  Would it be better to throw up a LiveCD and split it now or take over the whole thing and scale it back later?
[10:02] <TimothyP> oh :)
[10:02] <OneSeventeen> tritium: I have "Play system sounds" unchecked, so there are no sounds at all in my session, I'm wondering about before my session starts, at the logon screen
[10:02] <TimothyP> omg
[10:02] <TimothyP> oh well :)
[10:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> TimothyP: seriously, in doubt just use ext3
[10:02] <li1> tritium: laptop, it's an ati x1400 card which is already working with fglrx
[10:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> it works
[10:02] <jpoje> Anusien2: format your drive, install XP, then install ubuntu
[10:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> people know it works
[10:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> its good :D
[10:02] <tritium> li1: ah, okay
[10:02] <Anusien2> jpoje: so scale the partition down later?
[10:03] <li1> tritium: i still need help :)
[10:03] <jpoje> Anusien2: what partition? an existing one?
[10:03] <TimothyP> most of our servers run ubuntu-server, most of them are HP Proliants 380 machines :)
[10:03] <tritium> li1: sorry, I have the answer for nvidia, not ati
[10:03] <KaiSVK> hi all
[10:03] <TimothyP> some with more than 6 network interfaces and it still doesn't lock up pr slow down, I'd love to see windows try that :p we couldn't even get it stable with 3 cards in SBS :p
[10:03] <BHSPitMonkey_> if the computer is amd64, should I get the amd64 version of ubuntu? or is it too unstable?
[10:03] <KaiSVK> someone needs help with ATI ? :)
[10:03] <marlun> When Installing -dev packages like python2.4-dev, where is (what is the path to) the source?
[10:03] <li1> tritium: i see
[10:04] <rhyddin> hey all
[10:04] <Kyral_FreeBSD> TimothyP: Ext3 Full Journalling with Dir_Index for the win (What I run on my server :P)
[10:04] <Anusien2> jpoje: I cleared out all my partitions and I have 80gigs.  I just wiped it out.  I want to take like 50 gigs for XP and 30gigs for Linux.  Should I boot up in Ubuntu LiveCD and run parted now, or have Windows take over the entire 80 and then repartition?
[10:04] <TimothyP> I've to start teaching end users how to work with ubuntu soon :)
[10:04] <rhyddin> hey quick q: how do i get to a plain old command line?
[10:04] <DBO> MMMMMMONSTER KILL
[10:04] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Holy heck!
[10:04] <TimothyP> omg mager netsplit
[10:04] <BHSPitMonkey_> good little split there
[10:04] <rhyddin> crapola
[10:04] <TimothyP> magor netsplit I mean
[10:05] <BHSPitMonkey_> major you mean.
[10:05] <KaiSVK> :D
[10:05] <DBO> rhyddin, CTRL + Alt + F1
[10:05] <KaiSVK> what is this ?
[10:06] <DBO> KaiSVK, its called servers gone loco
[10:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!
[10:06] <mrw> msikma: It could be that some other program was just trying to do updating simultaneously.  I've also seen that type of error message if I run apt and then run like one of the updater programs too quickly before programs have closed or something.  I don't know the full error or situation, but if it isn't updating at all I would just close the program down and then restart that program and see if it gets a lock then
[10:06] <boogaloo> i'm trying to upgrade
[10:06] <Anusien2> rhyddin: Accessories->Terminal?
[10:06] <meuserj> looks like one of the freenode servers went down...
[10:06] <jpoje> Anusien2: better to partition up before hand, nondestructive partitioning can be iffy - make the first partition XP, then ubuntu/swap - then install XP, then Ubuntu
[10:06] <stevekl> Cripes, i'm getting corrupt package warnings while installing dapper!
[10:06] <SL|warlock> lol
[10:06] <neuro_> netsplittastic
[10:06] <RMSe17> server split
[10:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Its called
[10:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> A Hole In The Internet!
[10:06] <valberg> WOW!
[10:06] <stefout> could someome please help me with my ethernet problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1098349#post1098349
[10:06] <Ariel_> is there any quick and easy way to install something like vnc on ubuntu 6.06?
[10:06] <BHSPitMonkey_> hey, can anyone tell me if the amd64 version is stable, or should be avoided?
[10:06] <Anusien2> jpoje: Yeah, trying to repartition NTFS in the first place gave me the problems.  I'll leave 50gigs in one partition and 30 in the other and let the respective OSes do what they need with the free space
[10:06] <jpoje> Anusien2: just make sure XP is in the first slot or else it gets bitchy
[10:06] <SL|warlock> BHSPitMonkey_, its shit, messed up my system :(
[10:06] <paradizelos1> Ariel_: you need server or client?
[10:06] <Anusien2> BHSPitMonkey: the amd64 version has its own quirks, but it seems to be stable
[10:06] <rhyddin> nah - not a terminal .. i mean how do i actually quit X altogether?
[10:06] <TimothyP> Ariel_ xtightvnc
[10:06] <SL|warlock> Anusien2, the link you linked to me. What is it ?
[10:06] <Ariel_> paradizelos1, server
[10:06] <TimothyP> apt-cache search xtightvnc :)
[10:06] <intelikey> sk4jvoker the dmrc (by default) tells the display manager to load gnome  or some other wm.    what are you trying to set in .dmrc ?
[10:06] <redrum> BHSPitMonkey_,  do you have an nvidia card?
[10:06] <vbgunz> everybody here is ugly
[10:06] <jpoje> vbgunz: so is your mom
[10:06] <KaiSVK> vbgunz, why ? :)
[10:06] <TimothyP> vbgunz compared to my girlfriend , yeah :)
[10:06] <vbgunz> jpoje: haha
[10:06] <paradizelos1> apt-get install vncserver
[10:06] <KaiSVK> :D
[10:06] <jpoje> vbgunz: but the paper bag fixed that ;d
[10:06] <mitcheloc> Ariel_: you use ubuntu?
[10:06] <BlueNinja> jpoje: I've also tried rebooting, and I get some message at startup-I can't remember exactly what it is, but something about gnome mixer
[10:06] <sk4jvoker> i am not trying , i am trying to get in
[10:06] <valberg> Could not calculate the upgrade <- i get this error when trying to upgrade... any ideas to why ?
[10:06] <vbgunz> screen moving so fast, aint think anyone would catch it :P
[10:06] <BHSPitMonkey> redrum: the system I'm talking about doesn't, it just has onboard
[10:06] <Ariel_> mitcheloc, yes for some desktops
[10:06] <ciruzzo> hi
[10:06] <sk4jvoker> but i get the message that the file is being ignored
[10:06] <BlueNinj1> sorry, I guess there was a netsplit?
[10:06] <msikma> Wow, that was some netsplit.
[10:06] <BlueNinj1> ah
[10:07] <ciruzzo> where cn I download screensavers for gnome?
[10:07] <ciruzzo> *can
[10:07] <mitcheloc> Ariel_: cool ;), just installed it yesterday
[10:07] <intelikey> sk4jvoker well did you try just rm'ing the .dmrc ?
[10:07] <jpoje> BlueNinj1: did ctrl-alt-l work?
[10:07] <BlueNinj1> jpoje: nope
[10:07] <vbgunz> anyone know why I cannot join ubuntu+1?
[10:07] <BHSPitMonkey> redrum: I've just always gotten the opinion that 64bit OS's aren't stable enough yet, and to use x86 versions, but the guy has an amd64
[10:07] <shwag> programs for gnome, programs for kde, programs for gnome, programs for kde.  How about just programs for Ubuntu.
[10:07] <sk4jvoker> yes i rm and i still cant login
[10:07] <Vaske_Car> !tell Vaske_Car about SSH
[10:07] <jpoje> BlueNinj1: then yeah, your lock screen is broken (that seems to be a default keycombo for lock screen) - retrieve that error message from your logs and google it
[10:07] <KaiSVK> have anyone read the DaVinciCode ? :)
[10:07] <vbgunz> !ubuntu+1
[10:07] <ubotu> vbgunz: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:08] <uscg_corey> anyone using dapper and totem-xine plugin for ff1.5 experiencing really bright streaming video pictures?
[10:08] <redrum> BHSPitMonkey, 64bit is stable but it requires a lot more messing about to set things up - Wine etc, arent so.. intuitive to install
[10:08] <BlueNinj1> jpoje: great.
[10:08] <BHSPitMonkey> ah...
[10:08] <BHSPitMonkey> thanks
[10:08] <BlueNinj1> Would it be in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages?
[10:08] <KaiSVK> :D
[10:08] <intelikey> sk4jvoker hehhe oh   i think i know what the problem is .     do this  sudo rm /home/*/.*auth*
[10:08] <valberg> Could not calculate the upgrade <- i get this error when trying to upgrade... any ideas to why ?
[10:08] <KaiSVK> who is lilo ? :)
[10:08] <BHSPitMonkey> KaiSVK: lilo's the boss.
[10:08] <jpoje> BlueNinj1: no idea, I am a noob when it comes to the real work ;)
[10:08] <BHSPitMonkey> :)
[10:08] <TimothyP> stiches friend :p
[10:08] <sk4jvoker> what is that for
[10:08] <BHSPitMonkey> grub's enemy
[10:08] <BlueNinj1> heh
[10:08] <KaiSVK> BHSPitMonkey, so I am ... ;)
[10:09] <intelikey> sk4jvoker to let you login.
[10:09] <KaiSVK> TimothyP, aaah ... never seen that cartoon :)
[10:09] <redrum> BHSPitMonkey,  also there is no 64 bit flash support... you require to set up 32 bit chroot applications or download firefox32 and link it to 32bit libraries
[10:09] <meuserj> valberg, try using synaptic instead
[10:09] <intelikey> sk4jvoker you ran nautilus with sudo didn't you ?
[10:09] <sk4jvoker> no
[10:09] <gnomefreak> redrum: they can use gplflash
[10:09] <redrum> that too
[10:09] <BHSPitMonkey> redrum: I'm trying to make it easy for the guy, he's a linux virgin... so I'll go with the x86 on him for now :)
[10:09] <sk4jvoker> i ran cedega with sudo
[10:10] <intelikey> sk4jvoker some other gk app perhaps.  but at anyrate try that command.
[10:10] <boogaloo> how to eject an ipod ?
[10:10] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  any one in here experianced with installing Aircrack-NG on their Ubuntu box?
[10:10] <TimothyP> can someone tell me what it does when I "share" music in rhythmbox?
[10:10] <BlueNinj1> jpoje: I looked in messages, dmesg, and syslog-nothing about Mixer there
[10:11] <rhyddin> that netsplit screwed everything up for me .. did anyone answer my question? How do I exit the X server to a CL prompt?
[10:11] <intelikey> boogaloo sudo eject /dev/<device>   ???
[10:11] <Anusien2> rhyddin: you need to exit the X server or just get a commandline?
[10:11] <boogaloo> yes
[10:11] <facefaceface> hello, installing evince from dapper-updates/main Packages, I get the following warning...
[10:11] <rhyddin> i need to exit the server altoether
[10:11] <Anusien2> TimothyP: I would imagine that it runs a server that lets other people listen to your music.  That's the way iTunes sharing works
[10:11] <ablyss> rhyddin: control+alt+F1
[10:11] <TimothyP> doesn't show up on any itunes here :)
[10:11] <rhyddin> ablyss: Thank you!
[10:11] <facefaceface> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  evince Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?
[10:12] <boogaloo> but i must be superuser to eject that thing ? intelikey
[10:12] <boogaloo> ?
[10:12] <Burgwork> TimothyP, it uses DAAP sharing, same as iTunes
[10:12] <facefaceface> am I missing a GPG key
[10:12] <ablyss> rhyddin: that will not stop X, you need to tell gdm to stop
[10:12] <TimothyP> hmm perhaps I haven't got the required libs then and it doesn't throw an error (the help file doesn't mention anything about it)
[10:12] <Anusien2> rhyddin: "sudo apt-get install bum" which gives you a graphical utility to shut down gdm and keep it from restarting automatically.  Then in CL, to bring it back up, "/etc/init.d/gdm start"
[10:12] <intelikey> too much server side trubble today.   i'll be back when lilo and the rest get done.
[10:12] <jpoje> BlueNinj1: try this command: xscreensaver-command -lock
[10:13] <marlun> how do I get the version of my bash?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> they are done
[10:13] <rhyddin> Anusien2: thanks for the 411. I'll dl the pkg and give it a shot
[10:13] <gnomefreak> oh well
[10:13] <jpoje> bash --version
[10:13] <marlun> jpoje, oh, ok thanks!
[10:13] <jpoje> marlun: no problem :)
[10:13] <shrump_jimbo> would "init 3" stop the GUI and exit to a shell?
[10:13] <Wyred> bang head on keyboard, then count the amount of stars you see
[10:13] <BlueNinj1> jpoje: ok
[10:13] <ablyss> alt+control+F7 to return back to X
[10:14] <BlueNinj1> $ xscreensaver-command -lock
[10:14] <BlueNinj1> xscreensaver-command: warning: $DISPLAY is not set: defaulting to ":0.0".
[10:14] <BlueNinj1> xscreensaver-command: no screensaver is running on display :0.0
[10:14] <jpoje> BlueNinja: you seem to have a problem with your gnome-session
[10:14] <Chris_H> hey guys, im a little bit of a newbie and i could use some assistance, only im having trouble finding a newbie irc channel
[10:15] <valberg> meuserj, you mean that i should update all packages ?
[10:15] <BlueNinja> blargh. What do you suggest?
[10:15] <BHSPitMonkey> Chris_H: #lfd ?
[10:15] <gnomefreak> Chris_H: for what?
[10:15] <jpoje> BlueNinja: does the command xscreensaver work?
[10:15] <Chris_H> for Linux
[10:15] !lilo:*! Apparently level3 is also having 'typing issues' today, so I'm not alone. :)
[10:15] <Anusien2> rhyddin: Stopping 'gdm' through bum (boot-up manager) will stop gdm from starting automatically when you start linux, so you may want to re-enable that again through bum
[10:15] <gnomefreak> Chris_H: for ubuntu?
[10:15] <neoxan> mh
[10:15] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[10:15] <BlueNinja> jpoje: yeah
[10:15] <neoxan> whats the standard port for realvnc?
[10:15] <gnomefreak> jpoje: wasnt xscreensaver pulled out of dapper?
[10:15] <linuxboyfriend> what is a usenet?
[10:15] <zukalk> has anyone had problems with Ndiswrapper in Dapper? i can't get it to work
[10:16] <SystemBomber> zukalk, i need to get my Broadcom 4303 to work :P
[10:16] <Thralas> What package need I install to be able to use `crypt`?
[10:16] <sk4jvoker> nope no i still cant login , and i still have that message $home/.dmrc is being ignored
[10:16] <Chris_H> basically, im experimenting with my PC upstairs with Kubuntu running linux, and i want to try and set up a network so that i can transfer files from this Windows XP pc upstairs to the Linux machine and if possible, connect Linux up to the internet
[10:16] <jpoje> gnomefreak: people have said that it's gone, but I seem to have it...
[10:16] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: irc server?
[10:16] <gnomefreak> jpoje: do your updates ;)
[10:16] <jpoje> BlueNinja: try xscreensaver;xscreensaver-command -lock
[10:16] <jpoje> gnomefreak: I did!
[10:16] <Chris_H> #kubuntu said im looking in the wrong place, but couldnt help with any alternatives
[10:16] <sk4jvoker> any other users can login just one cant
[10:16] <gnomefreak> jpoje: iirc they pulled it cause too many issues with it sometime in flight 4-rc
[10:16] <zukalk> SystemBomber: mine's a Linksys WMP54G. won't work. it did fine in Hoary and Breezy
[10:16] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, hi
[10:17] <jpoje> gnomefreak: or did I need to upgrade after upgrade+dist-upgrade?
[10:17] <Anusien2> zukalk: what wireless card?
[10:17] <klaidas> hello. I have recently intsalled xubuntu-desktop (using aptitude). Now, when shutting down ubuntu, a Xubuntu logo is displayed instead of a Ubuntu one. How could I change that?
[10:17] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, irc server? sorry
[10:17] <gnomefreak> jpoje: you might have to
[10:17] <SystemBomber> zukalk, lol ive never gotten mine to work yet, still experimenting with linux..:P
[10:17] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: theres an irc server with a name simular to that if not that
[10:17] <valberg> what is the repo for 6.06
[10:17] <zukalk> Anusien2: you have a WMP54G too?
[10:17] <Anusien2> zukalk: for routers?  I have a WRT54G, but my wireless card is a bcm43xx
[10:18] <rhyddin> Hey this BUM thing is cool. I was trying to figure out how to turn off Bluetooth services since my laptop doesnt use them anyway. This makes it easier than 'bummin' around in the scripts (ok, lame jok)
[10:18] <jpoje> gnomefreak: but I like my xscreensaver ;(
[10:18] <SystemBomber> Anusien2, is it a BCM4303?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell valberg -about sources
[10:18] <spikeb> very rhyddin
[10:18] <Anusien2> SystemBomber: I don't know exactly
[10:18] <rhyddin> lol
[10:18] <SystemBomber> damn
[10:18] <BlueNinja> jpoje: it doesn't do anything different than xscreensaver
[10:18] <bmk789> when trying to make a call in skype, i get a "problem with sound device" how do i fix this?
[10:18] <SystemBomber> should say in lspci
[10:18] <MehAdult> Anusien2: I have the EXACT same thing.
[10:18] <zukalk> Anusien2 and SystemBomber: lspci detects mine as a BCM4306
[10:18] <Anusien2> MedAdult: Mine is a compaq laptop that no one else seems to have
[10:18] <MehAdult> Only mine is a 4318 not a 4306
[10:18] <Anusien2> zukalk: You don't need ndiswrapper then if you want to use the kernel module
[10:18] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, no i mean i heard something about that usenet, that by using usernet clients you can download things like music or something else?
[10:18] <Chris_H> can no-one here help me?
[10:19] <SystemBomber> damn, i need to get my BCM4303 work with WPA too
[10:19] <gnomefreak> jpoje: i did too ;) but im working on adding some once i figure that out ill be happy ;)
[10:19] <MehAdult> Anusien2: What is the output of lspci | grep BCM
[10:19] <zukalk> Anusien2: what should i do then?
[10:19] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: that i dont know
[10:19] <Thralas> What need I get in order to be able to use `crypt`?
[10:19] <jpoje> BlueNinja: I would try google to look at xscreensaver/gnome-session errors - I have to drive down to school now, or I would stay and help - good luck
[10:19] <SystemBomber> #bcm-users (think)
[10:19] <jpoje> !
[10:19] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak, hmm
[10:19] <Anusien2> MedAdult: Reformatting...
[10:19] <ubotu> jpoje: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:19] <BlueNinja> jpoje: thanks
[10:19] <lines> 
[10:20] <MehAdult> For BCM43xx cards on Ubuntu 6.06: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[10:20] <MehAdult> Read up.
[10:20] <Anusien2> zukalk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?highlight=%28bcm43xx%29
[10:20] <BlueNinja> Could anyone else suggest something? I can't lock screen and get an error about gnome_mixerapplet at startup
[10:20] <MehAdult> Use my link. Read the WHOLE thread.
[10:21] <zukalk> Anusien2: thanks, i wil
[10:21] <zukalk> will*
[10:21] <MehAdult> zukalk: For BCM43xx cards on Ubuntu 6.06: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[10:21] <Anusien2> It's relatively easy to get set up once everything falls into place
[10:21] <zukalk> MehAdult: thanks
[10:21] <Spec> noooo
[10:21] <MehAdult> zukalk: You're welcome. Read the whole thread not just the first part.
[10:21] <Spec> zukalk: MehAdult i've got something better
[10:22] <Spec> zukalk: MehAdult: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[10:22] <Anusien2> For when my laptop comes back up, thank god I have a bunch of these guides printed out AND bookmarked
[10:22] <MehAdult> Spec: Both links are good.
[10:22] <MehAdult> zukalk: Both my link and the wiki are good.
[10:22] <zukalk> MehAdult: ok
[10:23] <mgorbach> can someone help? my graphics drivers for nvidia seem to have gone crazy
[10:23] <b08y> automatix
[10:23] <mgorbach> the xorg log complains saying that the kernel module and the x module are different versions
[10:23] <b08y> !automatix
[10:23] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[10:23] <Spec> MehAdult: yes, true, but I started/wrote a whole bunch of that wiki page :p
[10:23] <Marineboy> !ssl
[10:23] <ubotu> Marineboy: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:24] <mgorbach> anyone know what that means?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> mgorbach: install the kernel-restricted-modules for your arch
[10:24] <BlueNinja> Could anyone else suggest something? I can't lock screen and get an error about gnome_mixerapplet at startup.
[10:24] <zipper_> Hah! I've got my monitor to be the primary display, but in return my tv isnt getting any signal now, sigh. Twinview in linux is for masochists :P
[10:25] <suspend> is there a way to disable hibernate?
[10:25] <zukalk> MehAdult: "but you might want to think about reinstalling if you've messed around with Ndis prior to this." bummer. i'll try and get rid of any ndiswrapper traces
[10:25] <gnomefreak> suspend: dont use it?
[10:25] <fuzzyhair> Does anyone here know a lot about Valknut?
[10:25] <Paradoxx> Seveas: are you there?
[10:25] <MehAdult> zukalk: There's something in both links about blacklisting ndiswrapper
[10:25] <Seveas> Paradoxx, no
[10:25] <zukalk> MehAdult: ok
[10:26] <Paradoxx> Seveas: good
[10:26] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:26] <suspend> trying to get rid of it in the menus, if thats possible
[10:26] <GoClick> Does a default install of dapper have a firewall enabled?
[10:26] <TimothyP> if you think about it, it's amazing how all the different project depend on eachother and yet don't brake to ofen
[10:26] <suspend> and just keep sleep as that works fine
[10:26] <TimothyP> it's scary
[10:26] <zukalk> MehAdult: i'll be back in 10min
[10:26] <MehAdult> I won't
[10:26] <TimothyP> you want to install a media player but it depends on 50 other projects with cryptical names
[10:26] <MehAdult> I need to get changed and go somewhere.
[10:26] <Spec> hehe
[10:26] <Spec> i can help you, zukalk
[10:26] <TimothyP> linux might be open source, but I have no idea anymore what I'm installing
[10:26] <Paradoxx> Seveas: but yea, if i wanted to control a current session on a remote machine how would I do it?
[10:27] <MehAdult> !mp3
[10:27] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:27] <Seveas> Paradoxx, vnc
[10:27] <jwilf> hi all, i upgraded from breezy to dapper and now i can't boot with the new 2.6.15-23-k7 kernel, it hangs at "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel"
[10:27] <Paradoxx> !nvc
[10:27] <ubotu> Paradoxx: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:27] <Paradoxx> !vnc
[10:27] <ubotu> somebody said vnc was http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[10:27] <okfine> anybody an expert with the dapper install (namely making partitions for dual boot)
[10:27] <Morrowyn> weee, just saw that cedega officually support guildwars
[10:27] <Morrowyn> cant wait to check it out
[10:27] <jwilf> but the previous kernel still boots and all the options are the same in grub
[10:28] <GoClick> !firewall
[10:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[10:28] <Scorpmoon> i really don't get why there is no installation docs for ubuntu
[10:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Because its stupid simple :P
[10:28] <Scorpmoon> i selected "install" from the live cd, and then it just runs ubuntu from CD
[10:28] <Scorpmoon> now what?
[10:28] <Scorpmoon> i need to partition i guess
[10:28] <Scorpmoon> but gparted I cant find
[10:28] <Krpano> what is the comand to check if i have 3d accelleration ?
[10:28] <jjazz_> Scorpmoon: I think you want the install CD rather than the live CD.
[10:28] <Scorpmoon> omg
[10:28] <duane_> i just downloaded a .deb file. When I click on it ark gives me this error:
[10:28] <duane_> The biggest news from Three Six was that CRUNCHY BLACK IS GONE! Yes, DJ Paul and Juicy J announced that Crunch Black is out of the Three Six Mafia. They didnt do this from the Summer Jam stage, but actually before on the radio with Miss Jones. Juice and Paul said that they havent talked to their former crewmember for several months and werent sure what he was up to. By, the time they took to the stage, the crowd had not y
[10:28] <duane_> et materialized, but they did their thing nonetheless.
[10:29] <zOap> hahaha
[10:29] <duane_> err
[10:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> NO PASTE!!
[10:29] <Scorpmoon> the menu says "start or install ubuntu"
[10:29] <duane_> sorry
[10:29] <duane_> wrong paste
[10:29] <Krpano> what is the comand to check if i have 3d accelleration ?.....plz..... :)
[10:29] <okfine> haha three six mafia
[10:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Scorpmoon: Sorry we expected someone to actually think
[10:29] <mlehrer> mmm paste tastes good
[10:29] <jwilf> anyone have any ideas on my boot problem... i'm stumped
[10:29] <jjazz_> Scorpmoon: OK.  I've never run the live CD.
[10:29] <duane_> but the error is : The utility is not in your PATH. Please install it or contact your system administrator
[10:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Krpano: glxgears
[10:29] <Krpano> thxxx
[10:29] <duane_> anyone know why?
[10:29] <jwilf> Krpano: glxinfo
[10:29] <duane_> how do I install a .deb file?
[10:29] <Krpano> yep....thx
[10:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !deb
[10:30] <zOap> duane_, dpkg -i
[10:30] <Spec> duane_: dpkg -i <filename.deb>
[10:30] <jjazz_> duane_: sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb
[10:30] <Scorpmoon> which download do I get? Alternate install CD?
[10:30] <Scorpmoon> if I want the desktop
[10:30] <Spec> the desktop?
[10:30] <Kyral_FreeBSD> oy I think we screwed up by splitting it
[10:30] <duane_> ok thanks
[10:30] <Kyral_FreeBSD> One Install CD == NO PROBLEM!!
[10:30] <Scorpmoon> i downloaded ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[10:30] <Spec> nbx909: please turn the away notifications off
[10:30] <Scorpmoon> what file do I need!
[10:30] <TimothyP> btw is the root password still visible in the setup configuration file like it was on the previous version ?
[10:30] <Kyral_FreeBSD> excuse me
[10:30] <Spec> Scorpmoon: that file will work fine
[10:30] <okfine> am I fine to resize my NTFS partition with dapper install?
[10:30] <Spec> TimothyP: no
[10:30] <nbx909> Spec, sorry
[10:31] <Spec> TimothyP: that's been fixed for a while
[10:31] <shwag> What are backports?
[10:31] <shwag> okfine: yes
[10:31] <Spec> okfine: Please make a backup first.
[10:31] <TimothyP> not that I ever use the ubuntu/sudo way :p
[10:31] <okfine> I've got the data i can't lose on CD
[10:31] <duane_> ok another question. Is it just me or are white textures in gnome or kde NOT as bright as white textures in xp?
[10:31] <okfine> the rest is expendable
[10:31] <Spec> okfine: shoot for it then :)
[10:31] <TimothyP> I always sudo su  and then passwd anyway :p
[10:31] <zOap> duane_, what??
[10:31] <okfine> Spec, when I create the two new partitions one should be primary and the other extended?
[10:32] <Spec> TimothyP: sudo bash as well
[10:32] <longest_day> does the ubuntu upgrade screw the /home repertory ?
[10:32] <jwilf> TimothyP: just use sudo -i
[10:32] <duane_> i have always noticed that the color white is not as bright in kde or gnome
[10:32] <TimothyP> what does it do
[10:32] <duane_> as it is in xp
[10:32] <GoClick> I installed a pre-release version of dapper how can I make sure everything is updated now that it's out. Will the normal update thingy keep it up or do I need to issue a special command, ie get things that were added etc
[10:32] <zOap> duane_, maybe it's your graphic card driver.have you calibrated?
[10:33] <bmk789> when trying to make a call in skype, i get a "problem with sound device" message, how do i fix this?
[10:33] <TimothyP> apt-get update &&  apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:33] <duane_> yes
[10:33] <jwilf> is nobody interested that i can't boot the new kernel after upgrading to dapper? :(
[10:33] <TimothyP> jwilf I'm not proficient enough to help sorry m8
[10:33] <jwilf> i'd be really grateful for any suggestions
[10:34] <zOap> method|, then I don't know. My guess it's the driver. Have nothing to do with gnome or kde
[10:34] <disinterested_pe> i went back to breezy cause i had problems with dapper
[10:34] <jwilf> TimothyP: ok no worries
[10:34] <rackerz> hey
[10:34] <rackerz> can anyone help me get my webcam going?
[10:34] <zOap> rackerz, try to be more specific
[10:34] <Paradoxx> What vnc client do you guys recommend??
[10:35] <Scorpmoon> Spec, that is the file I have!! then why does ubuntu start from CD when I click "start or install" in boot menu?
[10:35] <okfine> guys I just ran into a small problem with partitioning
[10:35] <nbx909> Paradoxx, vnc
[10:35] <nbx909> lol
[10:35] <TimothyP> ooh nice very nice I plug in my usb headset and ubuntu notifies me of it :)
[10:35] <rackerz> zOap I've got a logitech quickcam express, it used to work with easycam2 before i re-installed.
[10:35] <okfine> i freed up some space with Gparted in install and then created a new partition... but i cant create one more for swap
[10:35] <zOap> Scorpmoon, when you boot there is an icon on the desktop. INSTALL
[10:35] <jwilf> wow - is it just me or is firefox 1.5 MUCH faster than 1.03 on ubuntu
[10:35] <okfine> it says something about extended partitions being able to contain primaries
[10:35] <TimothyP> Paradoxx I use xtightvnc
[10:35] <Scorpmoon> lol so there is
[10:35] <Paradoxx> I mean which vnc server. Cause like i see realvnc which i have used b4, tightvnc etc etc
[10:35] <okfine> (my computer came with a couple of bull primary partitions from Dell)
[10:36] <Scorpmoon> thats not logic to a windows user though
[10:36] <disinterested_pe> its not just u ] wilf
[10:36] <zOap> rackerz, sorry, don't know that one. But there are lots of howtos on google
[10:36] <nbx909> jwilf, it's even faster if you don't use the ubuntu verson and install the mozilla verson
[10:36] <Scorpmoon> and windows users are the ones you wanna hijack right?
[10:36] <Paradoxx> TimothyP: whats so special about tightvnc
[10:36] <lss> Hi, does anyone know any nice networking guides to get my windows xp + ubuntu 6.10 LTS working? thank you.
[10:36] <NoUse> Paradoxx there is a vnc server built into gnome
[10:36] <TimothyP> Paradoxx it works: p
[10:36] <Paradoxx> kk
[10:36] <nbx909> !tell jwilf about firefox1.5
[10:36] <NoUse> Paradoxx System -> Prefs -> Remote desktop
[10:36] <zOap> Scorpmoon, we don't want to hijack anyone
[10:36] <carbo> is there a way to hide all icons on the gnome desktop?
[10:36] <jwilf> nbx909: ?
[10:36] <Paradoxx> NoUse: what client you recommend
[10:36] <Paradoxx> ?
[10:36] <NoUse> Paradoxx tightvnc is fine
[10:37] <jwilf> nbx909: ah, ok
[10:37] <okfine> fellas the main ubuntu partition needs to be primary right?
[10:37] <longest_day> carbo, yes
[10:37] <nbx909> jwilf, install firefox from that guide and it will run even faster
[10:37] <Vaske_Car> Is 450Mhz / 128mbRAM enought for server installation of 6.06?
[10:37] <nbx909> Vaske_Car, yeah
[10:37] <carbo> longest_day: and what's that? I can't find any option
[10:37] <jwilf> nbx909: what guide?
[10:37] <Vaske_Car> installing :)
[10:37] <nbx909> jwilf, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:37] <longest_day> in the gconf i think
[10:37] <jwilf> nbx909: ah, got it :-)
[10:37] <jwilf> thanks
[10:37] <longest_day> you can hide the "volume" icons
[10:38] <fiendskull9> hey
[10:38] <fiendskull9> whats hda4 on hda in grub terms?
[10:38] <longest_day> and/or the "computer" icon
[10:38] <okfine> anybody available to chat via PM about dual boot installation partitions
[10:38] <brmiller> Am I to understand that you need to use the alternate CD if you have any system involving RAID?
[10:38] <fiendskull9> would it be hd0, 3
[10:38] <okfine> i can't figure this out
[10:38] <avis> i dont know grub well enough
[10:38] <avis> i know lilo
[10:39] <longest_day> carbo, once you're in gconf, you go there: /apps/nautilus/desktop
[10:39] <Boglizk> What happend to the fonts? (I just updated to dapper)
[10:39] <carbo> longest_day: ah, okay, then I have to remove everything else normally... was hoping for a hide all option
[10:40] <pvd2006> okfine, yes the ubuntu main partition needs to be primary, then you need a swap partition.
[10:40] <longest_day> ho
[10:40] <shwag> What are backports?
[10:40] <okfine> i cant create another partition tho pvd
[10:40] <longest_day> then i don't know
[10:40] <okfine> my computer came with 3 already on it from Dell
[10:40] <okfine> i can create an additional primary but then i cant create any more
[10:40] <Pepino> hi, I installed Ubuntu and use GRUB, but at boot time it send me the error 17:
[10:41] <pvd2006> okfine, you can resize partitions with certain tools. or format an other partition for swap as long as its not too big.
[10:41] <Pepino> then I tried suse with LILO as the loader and it works fine
[10:41] <pvd2006> Okfine, how much memory do you have?
[10:41] <okfine> 37 gigs, about 7 of which i just freed up by shrinking my windows partition
[10:42] <Pepino> then I want to install Ubuntu with LILO as the loader, but can't find where can i change the option
[10:42] <zukalk> MehAdult: i'm back
[10:42] <okfine> so i created a 6 gig ubuntu primary in that space
[10:42] <okfine> but now i cant do anything to make a swap
[10:42] <zukalk> Spec: how can you help me? and sorry for taking so long
[10:42] <pvd2006> okfine, how much Ram do you have?
[10:42] <okfine> i believe 512
[10:42] <okfine> im on a laptop
[10:42] <pvd2006> Oh, then I would definitely put a swap partition with 512megs of memory.
[10:43] <pvd2006> Hmm
[10:43] <okfine> im afraid to screw around with any of the dell installed partitions cause im sure one of them is the windows install
[10:43] <okfine> and i dont want to have to call for a CD lol
[10:43] <Vaske_Car> how to install SSH server?
[10:43] <NoUse> Vaske_Car sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[10:43] <t-thing> Hi. Where on earth does angband save game?
[10:44] <redrum> okfine you can use GParted LiveCD to resize partitions relatively safely
[10:44] <Vaske_Car> NoUse, and do I need to install client side as well on client PC?
[10:44] <pvd2006> okfine, you can tell which one has windows on it.
[10:44] <okfine> i was able to when i ran fdisk last night but i cant remember how to do that
[10:44] <SurfnKid> ok back online
[10:44] <NoUse> Vaske_Car you'll need a client on the PC you are connecting from, yes
[10:44] <Ron_o> For Dapper, are they allowing you to pick and choose which apps to get rid of, unlike in Breezy?
[10:44] <SurfnKid> at a cybercafe :S
[10:44] <pvd2006> okfine, what operating system are you on right now? Windows?
[10:44] <CactusWiZaRd> does Ubuntu support ttf -fonts?
[10:45] <Vaske_Car> NoUse, let me first install everything on server
[10:45] <caepc> HELLO ubus
[10:45] <supertanker> hi
[10:45] <caepc> has anyone used DRBL  Diskless Remote Boot in Linux
[10:45] <CactusWiZaRd> !fonts
[10:45] <ubotu> fonts is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[10:45] <longest_day> yes CactusWiZaRd
[10:45] <okfine> pvd right now im running live install ubuntu
[10:45] <supertanker> any way to download all the pkgs with apt-get and burn them to CD if I need them later?
[10:45] <pvd2006> ohhh ok, good.
[10:45] <okfine> i have XP on this PC tho
[10:45] <CactusWiZaRd> longest_day: thanks :)
[10:45] <caepc> im trying to decide which distro to use for it....because it's going to be a pita on slackware (no source supplied, only rpms)
[10:45] <mwe> supertanker: yes
[10:46] <supertanker> how?
[10:46] <supertanker> where do the pkgs go? do I need to lay them out on the cd in a special way?
[10:46] <runelind> I tried doing sudo modprobe fglrx and it said operation not permitted
[10:46] <mwe> supertanker: apt-get -d will download only. read 'man apt-get' for details
[10:46] <runelind> I have the restricted modules installed
[10:47] <supertanker> so do I need to put them on the cd in a special way?
[10:47] <mwe> supertanker: no
[10:47] <runelind> anyone know what's up?  this is a fresh install of dapper
[10:47] <quirky> is anyone getting random freezes in Dapper?
[10:47] <mwe> supertanker: but you have to install them with sudo dpkg -i
[10:47] <mwe> supertanker: they go to  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:47] <zest> Hi all there !
[10:48] <eobanb> welcome, zest
[10:48] <caepc> zest, OMG HI2U
[10:48] <zest> Is there somebody who can tell me how to redirect mp3 songs to open with xine automatically ?
[10:48] <NoUse> zest xine? its realy more of a video player
[10:48] <caepc> zest, frome firefox
[10:48] <caepc> ?
[10:49] <caepc> xine sux0rziz
[10:49] <okfine> PVD, the partitions that came with my computer were /dev/sda1 (fat16 62mb) /dev/sda2 (ntfs ~30 gb) and /dev/sda3 (fat32 3.47 gb)
[10:49] <zest> caepc: Firefox ?
[10:49] <don-o> xine ru1ez :)
[10:49] <supertanker> does the apt cache ever get deleted?
[10:49] <spikeb> xinelib > gstreamer
[10:49] <mwe> supertanker: if you sudo apt-get clean
[10:49] <mwe> supertanker: or autoclean
[10:50] <caepc> zest, from what program............
[10:50] <pvd2006> okfine, most likely windows xp is on the /dev/sda2
[10:50] <supertanker> what is autoclean?
[10:50] <mwe> supertanker: please read the manual for details
[10:50] <zest> caepc: just click on it in nautilus
[10:50] <caepc> pvd2006, df -T and look for ntfs partitions
[10:51] <mwe> supertanker: it only cleans what is not installed
[10:51] <caepc> zest, right click it and do set default action or something....though that stuff rarely works on gnome
[10:51] <Ron_o> supertanker, try sudo apt-cache clear if you want to clean it.
[10:51] <okfine> pvd, do you mean windows or the windows install/restore info
[10:51] <jstew> Hi. has anyone heard of the problem of an eth0 device not being created after breezy->dapper upgrade? It's a pcmcia ehternet adapter.
[10:51] <Ron_o> !apt-cache
[10:51] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Ron_o
[10:51] <supertanker> I don't want to clean it in case I need them again
[10:51] <okfine> ive heard dell puts that on a seperate partition, which i guess would be sda3
[10:51] <Ron_o> supertanker, it only gets so big. I think the default is 500MB.
[10:51] <okfine> either way im not sure how to proceed without eliminating a potentially necessary partition
[10:51] <mwe> supertanker: then don't :)
[10:51] <longest_day> i'm upgrading
[10:51] <Ron_o> for a 50Gig HD that's not much.
[10:51] <longest_day> i'm scarred
[10:52] <Ron_o> but for a 5Gig that might be alot.
[10:52] <zest> :ceapc there is no option to set default ... or i'm blind
[10:52] <basti> I just bought a sata disk, and dont have any other sata disks in my system. now I would like to format this disk with ext3. How would I do that most easily?
[10:52] <jstew> Basically I've been hosed since my dapper upgrade. The modules load fine, but no network devices :(
[10:52] <zest> ceapc: there is no option to set default ... or i'm blind
[10:52] <pvd2006> okfine, I dont know much about dells, so I guess you would have to be careful on which partitions you do mess with.
[10:52] <quirky> Has no one had any random freezes on Dapper then? Lucky bunch!! ;)
[10:52] <zest> ceapc, there is no option to set default ... or i'm blind
[10:52] <caepc> zest, i dont use gnome, so im sorry....check in preferences MIME or something
[10:53] <shwag> im confused and would like someone to msg me how my  sources.list should look with universe and multiverse
[10:53] <mwe> quirky: nah. that thing is usually caused by buggy drivers
[10:53] <Oliver_123> hello, i have a problem with my networking after upgrading from brezzy to dapper
[10:53] <spikeb> anyone know if rockbox-ed ipods still have drag n drop wiht banshee?
[10:53] <okfine> pvd, youd say theres no way to create a swap partition without editing the others?
[10:53] <Oliver_123> i get an SUICGUFFLAGS Error message: no such device
[10:53] <mwe> queuetue: is it totally random, no pattern?
[10:53] <quirky> But which drivers? I ugraded from breezy, and nothing was broken there
[10:53] <okfine> ive got 4 primary partitions but isnt there some way to add another non primary
[10:53] <Pepino> hello, anyone know how can I install LILO if a boot with a live CD?
[10:53] <quirky> now dapper freezes every 30-40 minutes
[10:54] <pvd2006> okfine, you could shrink the 6-7 gig partition down 512megs less and then create a 512meg partition for swap.
[10:54] <redrum> zest - try "open with..."
[10:54] <okfine> pvd if got free space but it wont let me create a new partition
[10:54] <zest> redrum, open with works, but other default would be nice ..
[10:54] <mwe> quirky: I don't know. you need to suspect something and then see if it happens if you don't load that module. check /var/log/syslog to see if it suggests anything
[10:54] <pvd2006> okfine, I understand, they are under other partitions right?
[10:54] <okfine> no its unallocated
[10:54] <redrum> zest you can then select the application to open with, and then later you can select which program has preference with that file by clicking the bullets next to the apps
[10:54] <okfine> 530 mb
[10:55] <Oliver_123> my network card is a Marvel, driver module sk98lin is loaded, but ifconfig does not show the ethx device, only ifconfig -a does show something
[10:55] <okfine> but i just cant make that inot a partition cause it says i have 4 primaries... even tho i dont want a primary
[10:55] <facefaceface> sudo apt-key update
[10:55] <facefaceface> dosn't help me
[10:55] <mwe> quirky: are you using closed source drivers?
[10:55] <quirky> well, thx mwe, I imagine it's the ati stuff. seems to have lots of bug reports in launchpad
[10:55] <quirky> no, I use the xorg ati driver
[10:55] <okfine> it says i should create an extended partition cause they can contain other partitions
[10:55] <Oliver_123> can anyone help me with my networking problem?
[10:55] <basti> !sata
[10:55] <ubotu> basti: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:56] <mwe> quirky: yeah. I guess ATI still hasn't hired a decent linux coder
[10:56] <quirky> the closed source one in breezy caused a similar locking prob
[10:56] <SystemBomber> If anyone wants to know if BCM4303 will work with wifi, then it does :D i finally done it lol
[10:56] <Fear_is_the_mind> i use the ati drivers with breezy, and i never have problems
[10:56] <mwe> quirky: I heard disabling the framebuffer solves some problems with ATI drivers
[10:56] <pvd2006> okfine, you can make your swap a extended partition
[10:57] <okfine> pvd2006, when i try to create a new partition it doesnt give me the option of making it an extended partition before telling me i cant make it
[10:57] <facefaceface> why do I get WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[10:57] <zim> hi all just installed dapper very dapper but no sound on my sony vaio tr1mp any ideas
[10:57] <crimsun> zim: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[10:58] <klikeur> is anobody speak french please??
[10:58] <Fear_is_the_mind> ouais
[10:58] <eugman> Does anyone know of a screenshot walthrough or review of the graphical installer? I'd like to take a look at it.
[10:58] <facefaceface> mais no
[10:58] <facefaceface> non
[10:58] <klikeur> je suis un newbie sur linux tu peux m'aider
[10:58] <Fear_is_the_mind> a faire quoi ?
[10:58] <redrum> zest rightclick -> properties on that file you can get an open with tab
[10:59] <okfine> pvd2006, should i maybe make my main ubuntu partition extended so it can contain swap?
[10:59] <zim> sorry all just a 2 line paste
[10:59] <okfine> or is that a no no
[10:59] <klikeur> ben je viens d'installer une application (linphone common) avec apt-get mais je ne sais pas ou il se trouve dans le systeme de fichier
[10:59] <zim> Mixers:
[10:59] <zim> 0: Analog Devices AD1981B
[10:59] <Fear_is_the_mind> tu veux lancer ton application ?
[11:00] <klikeur> oui
[11:00] <aLPHa_LeaK> !fr
[11:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:00] <basti> I just installed the first sata disk on my sata onboard controller, how come I cant see the disk in Disks manager?
[11:00] <TimothyP> how do I change the CPU usage of an app in the coimmand line with nice if it's already running
[11:00] <zim> crimsun did you get that
[11:00] <Fear_is_the_mind> klikeur, tu ouvres une console, tu tapes "linphone"
[11:00] <crimsun> zim: yes
[11:01] <crimsun> zim: please pastebin ``lspci -nv && amixer''
[11:01] <klikeur> a me dit :command not found
[11:01] <zim> what is the pastebin link again
[11:02] <Ng> !tell zim about pastebin
[11:02] <Selaiah> Does anyone know how to get the Ralink RT2500 on Dapper to connect to a WPA2 (static IP's) encrypted network?
[11:02] <Marineboy> !gcc
[11:02] <ubotu> somebody said gcc was the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:03] <okfine> anybody know why ubuntu install isnt letting me create an extended partition when i have 4 primaries?
[11:03] <zim> ng did not work
[11:03] <okfine> i need a swap partition but it wont let me create any more partitions cause it says i have 4 primaries
[11:03] <paql> hi
[11:03] <bolsh> okfine: Creating an extended partition needs at least one primary free
[11:03] <paql> what command I need for install a *.bin ???
[11:03] <zim> how do i get to pastbin
[11:04] <apokryphos> zim: /msg ubotu pastebin
[11:04] <bolsh> okfine: An extended partition is an entry in the partiton table that points at another partition table later on the disk - it's a hack to have more than 4 partitions in a partition table that only has 48 bytes
[11:05] <okfine> bolsh--since i have three partitions already and dont want to mess with them is there any way to install ubuntu on my machine?
[11:05] <okfine> damn dell and their mystery partitions
[11:05] <bolsh> okfine: Yeah -
[11:05] <ablyss> paql: chmod +x <file>.bin , then ./file.bin
[11:05] <okfine> i mean with dual boot
[11:05] <okfine> sorry should have specified
[11:06] <bolsh> okfine: Install an extended partition in the 4th (free) slot
[11:06] <paql> ablyss, sudo sh ????
[11:06] <okfine> ok
[11:06] <bolsh> Then add a hda5 for / and a hda6 for swap
[11:06] <ablyss> paql, sudo if necessary
[11:06] <stalefries> I've completely broken my Ubuntu installation, and I plan on doing a complete reinstall. Besides my home directory's contents, what should I back up?
[11:06] <cute_bettong> !w32codecs
[11:06] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[11:06] <okfine> bolsh, and thatll work?  ive been reading that root should be a primary but you're the boss
[11:06] <] GoldenDragon> where do I download Ubuntu Live CD?
[11:06] <b08y> !live
[11:06] <ubotu> b08y: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:07] <zest> redrum: Komm nicht wirklich weiter. Er will immer TOTEM ffnen ...
[11:07] <bolsh> stalefries: Unless you've done customising of packages (in which case you'll need to save config files) that should do it
[11:07] <] GoldenDragon> !live
[11:07] <] GoldenDragon> O_o
[11:07] <jansenfor> algum brasileiro
[11:07] <stalefries> bolsh: thanks
[11:07] <zim> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15141
[11:07] <spikeb> !br
[11:07] <cute_bettong> !codecs
[11:07] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:07] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:07] <zim> ty all pastbin
[11:07] <cute_bettong> what happend to the link
[11:07] <redrum> !vlc
[11:07] <jorgp> !easysource
[11:07] <ubotu> I heard vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[11:07] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:07] <cute_bettong> there used to be a link O_o
[11:07] <roc> has anyone else had the 'Could not initialize Audio' problem with mplayer?
[11:07] <zest> redrum, Komm nicht wirklich weiter. Er will immer TOTEM ffnen ...
[11:07] <quirky> well, 2 freezes in 5 minutes there. Dapper sucks :(
[11:08] <okfine> can the / partition be in an extended partition? id like verification before i go ahead with this
[11:08] <pizux> hello is there a command line to known all my device?
[11:08] <sean__> I got this -> http://eepybird.com/dcm1.html <- from a friend -- it will not play -- how might I get it to play?
[11:08] <crimsun> pizux: yes
[11:08] <bolsh> okfine: I'm not the boss
[11:08] <mardi> hello, when i try to use skype, i send find, but the incoming sound gets distorted and choppy, any ideas?
[11:08] <cute_bettong> anyone know what happend to the dapper/breezy page that showed you how to get all the codecs?
[11:08] <ablyss> pizux: df
[11:08] <bolsh> okfine: But it should work
[11:08] <void^> ubotu: tell zest about de
[11:08] <mwe> cute_bettong: it says to read !easysource which provides the link
[11:08] <okfine> bolsh, im going to go ahead and trust you since its all ive got lol
[11:09] <okfine> have you done this yourself?
[11:09] <zest> redrum, excuse me, german is my native language, i don't really come along to open anything other then totem ...
[11:09] <bolsh> sabdfl: Does the root partition need to be a primary partition?
[11:09] <simpkins> Is there a good MSN progy for Ubuntu besides GAIM ?
[11:09] <pizux> df ? but there ios no my dvd and cdrom?
[11:09] <ablyss> simpkins: kopete
[11:09] <zim> crimsun did you get my pastebin
[11:09] <mwe> simpkins: amsn
[11:09] <Fear_is_the_mind> yes, amsn
[11:09] <roc> simpkins: why GAIM won't do?
[11:09] <mwe> simpkins: but I think gaim2 is the best
[11:09] <roc> works perfectly fine with me...
[11:09] <ablyss> pizux: you have to sudo mount /dev/cdrom before df will list it
[11:09] <simpkins> roc: its only for msn and gaim is not brining up msn correctly
[11:09] <zest> redrum: excuse me, german is my native language, i don't really come along to open anything other then totem ...
[11:09] <redrum> zest try open with custom applicaton first
[11:09] <SurfnKid> there's amsn too? does it include all other chat protocols?
[11:10] <mwe> no
[11:10] <crimsun> zim: yes, please wait a second, I'm busy
[11:10] <roc> simpkins: well that's weird... atleast I can communicate correctly trough gaim - msn connections
[11:10] <cute_bettong> mwe i don't want the source o matic don't need it i just would like the page that you could go to to see how to install all the codecs and media stuff
[11:10] <roc> actually I'm on gaim at the moment
[11:10] <mwe> simpkins: funny. gaim bring up msn fine here
[11:11] <simpkins> mwe: you using gaim or gaim2
[11:11] <zim> ty no prob just this channel moves so fast it is easy to miss stuff
[11:11] <meheren> where do i get the network install cd for download?
[11:11] <rhican> to install a new kernel, what else do i have to do, except apt-getting? any tutorials?
[11:11] <niki> anyone know of a command line app to convert mp3 to wav?
[11:11] <roc> simpkins: atleast I'm using gaim 1.5
[11:11] <mwe> simpkins: gaim2 but it worked in 1.5 as well
[11:11] <pizux> am looking for a good plugnplay webcam on dapper can i have an advice please?
[11:11] <roc> simpkins: since I had some serous problems with 2 when I tried it the last time
[11:11] <zest> redrum: ok tried rythmbox. but how to set the default option ?
[11:11] <Marineboy> !upgrade
[11:11] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[11:11] <Marineboy> !dapper
[11:11] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[11:12] <roc> news flash...
[11:12] <simpkins> roc: well i logged in and it brings up a blank buddy list and i cant message people
[11:12] <niki> anyone know of a command line app to convert mp3 to wav?
[11:12] <redrum> zest try right clicking select properties on an mp3 or movie file
[11:12] <mwe> cute_bettong: so what link would you like it to provide?
[11:12] <roc> simpkins: hmm can't you add yer buddies back?
[11:12] <msid> can you tell me programs i can use to watch tv ?
[11:12] <nootrope> niki: it'll sound like crap
[11:12] <ablyss> tvtime, msid
[11:12] <simpkins> roc: shouldent it bring up all my buddys
[11:12] <redrum> zest there should be a open with tab in the properties dialog box
[11:13] <msid> ablyss: other ?
[11:13] <cute_bettong> mwe took some looking in the bots mem but this is what i would suggest... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:13] <niki> nootrope, i only need it to convert a small event sound
[11:13] <roc> simpkins: yeah it should, but maybe you didn't put the right account in...
[11:13] <BockBilbo> hey
[11:13] <cute_bettong> mwe that works without fail
[11:13] <disinterested_pe> when i try to install easy ubuntu it says fix broken packages how do i accomplish that?
[11:13] <meheren> is there a way to do a network install? in other words only use the cd to boot and the network to do everything else?
[11:13] <simpkins> roc: lol ill try one more time
[11:13] <kubuntu_> anyone know of a music ripper that can rip a whole cd to single file?
[11:13] <BockBilbo> anyone here has tried CMapTools on ubuntu?
[11:13] <mwe> cute_bettong: that's !restricted
[11:13] <redrum> zest click the button next to the app you want
[11:13] <redrum> zest then try double clicking
[11:13] <cute_bettong> mwe oh ok i diden't know
[11:13] <cute_bettong> lol
[11:13] <roc> simpkins: do so ;)... ya know the screen name has to be your mail, incase you didn't know
[11:13] <KuLover> Has anyone been able to get the text install to detect thier RAID arrays?
[11:13] <nootrope> niki: lemme check a few things
[11:13] <gratefulfrog> hey, anyone know how to get videos to view in firefox (amd64 or 32bit dchroot)?
[11:13] <ablyss> msid, xawtv
[11:13] <mwe> cute_bettong: we can make it refer to !restricted as well
[11:13] <niki> nootrope, ok thx :)
[11:14] <cached> I just installed Dapper and now when I boot to the upmost thing in Grub the internet connection doesnt work, and in the others printing doesnt work. what should i do if i need both?
[11:14] <zest> redrum: double click ... opening application
[11:14] <redrum> gratefulfrog what format of video?
[11:14] <roc> gratefulfrog: I remember there being a mplayer extension the firefox... but no idea where it was
[11:14] <okfine> before i hit proceed: HAS ANYONE EVER MADE THEIR ROOT PARTITION PART OF AN EXTENDED PARTITION?  DOES IT WORK?
[11:14] <ablyss> msid, sudo apt-cache search tv
[11:14] <mardi> hello, when i try to use skype, i send find, but the incoming sound gets distorted and choppy, any ideas?
[11:14] <simpkins> roc: its letting me sign on and everything but just no buddy list
[11:14] <bolsh> Night
[11:14] <cute_bettong> mwe that might make it easyer for some people looking for the restricted codecs.....sorry for the fuss it's really just a misunderstanding ^_^
[11:14] <KuLover> Anyone been able to get the text install to detect thier RAID arrays?
[11:14] <roc> simpkins: well my head is empty... :( sorry
[11:14] <cached> I just installed Dapper and now when I boot to the upmost thing in Grub the internet connection doesnt work, and in the others printing doesnt work. what should i do if i need both?
[11:15] <redrum> zest did you select rythmbox in properties - open with?
[11:15] <Oceansblue> msg mardi My does the same on dapper.
[11:15] <zest> redrum: right click ... opening application totem...
[11:15] <fedge> hello all
[11:15] <niki> what's a good quick gui text editor?  preferably something a lot quicker than gedit?
[11:15] <roc> simpkins: btw did you choose the correct protocol?
[11:15] <SurfnKid> gonna save battery bbl guys
[11:15] <Selaiah> Does anyone know how to get the Ralink RT2500 on Dapper to connect to a WPA2 (static IP's) encrypted network?
[11:15] <amphi> okfine: don't shout - yes / can be in a 'logical' partition
[11:15] <cached> niki: kedit?
[11:15] <ablyss> niki mousepad
[11:15] <roc> simpkins: ya know it has to be MSN
[11:15] <nootrope> niki: http://www.mp3-converter.com/linux/index.htm
[11:15] <mwe> cute_bettong: like this:
[11:15] <cached> niki: better: emacs!
[11:15] <mwe> !codecs
[11:15] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories. Also refer to !restricted
[11:15] <zim> niki vim
[11:15] <simpkins> roc: yes :P
[11:15] <cached> vim != gui
[11:15] <niki> zim, a gui one  :)
[11:15] <niki> but thanks
[11:15] <niki> i know emacs
[11:15] <zim> sorry
[11:15] <mardi> Oceansblue, it was fine yesterday, but i put in alsa-oss for something else, and now skype is messed up, i took out alsa-oss but skype is still sounding bad
[11:15] <roc> simpkins: okay... empty again...
[11:16] <niki> but i need a gui one =
[11:16] <amphi> cached: gvim ;)
[11:16] <ablyss> niki mousepad is by far the fastest text editor with GUI
[11:16] <cute_bettong> mwe lol sure ^_^
[11:16] <niki> thx nootrope, checkin that out now
[11:16] <fedge> i'd like to DL dapper, what utils are in the Server CD that aren't in the desktop CD?
[11:16] <Dandre> hello all,
[11:16] <cached> I just installed Dapper and now when I boot to the upmost thing in Grub the internet connection doesnt work, and in the others printing doesnt work. what should i do if i need both?
[11:16] <nootrope> np
[11:16] <niki> ablyss, thanks, i'll definately check it out then :)
[11:16] <gratefulfrog> redrum: any video from google's video site, the screen just stays black
[11:16] <Dandre> is there any doc on how to install sun jdk 1.4.2 ?
[11:16] <ug> what can i do to make my mouse not be a square block?
[11:16] <cached> dandre: ubuntuguide.com
[11:16] <redrum> gratefulfrog ok you need java
[11:16] <mwe> Dandre: you can't use .5?
[11:16] <redrum> and flash
[11:17] <ggilbert_> Is there any difference between the results you get by installing from the livecd or installing from the install cd?
[11:17] <cached> dandre: whoops, ignore that
[11:17] <Fear_is_the_mind> get the .deb file, Dandre
[11:17] <mwe> Dandre: um 1.5
[11:17] <amphi> ug: in console?
[11:17] <crimsun> zim: amixer set 'Headphone Jack Sense' on
[11:17] <gavin_> hey guys, got an interesting setup here. i had to use ubuntu server to install on an older dell laptop, because it lacked the memory for ubuntu desktop cd... how do i invoke from the command line setting up the NIC (PCMCIA card) to get dhcp?
[11:17] <zest> redrum: found. Thanks / i didnt look under options for this file. Only opened the application ....
[11:17] <zim> crimsun ty
[11:17] <redrum> gratefulfrog try using GNASH its a free flash player alternative that will work in 64 bit apparently
[11:17] <cached> can someone please answer my question? its urgent
[11:17] <cached> I just installed Dapper and now when I boot to the upmost thing in Grub the internet connection doesnt work, and in the others printing doesnt work. what should i do if i need both?
[11:17] <hmpedersen> It seems I'm not going to get dapper running here
[11:17] <amphi> gavin_: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:17] <zest> redrum, found. Thanks / i didnt look under options for this file. Only opened the application ....
[11:17] <ug> no, in the desktop environment amphi
[11:17] <sean__> I can't play a .mov file (see http://eepybird.com/dcm1.html) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15143 (output from kmplayer)
[11:17] <redrum> zest thats ok
[11:17] <zim> crimsun where how
[11:17] <ggilbert_> redrum: Have you tried gnash lately?
[11:17] <fedge> can anyone explain the difference between the Server CD and the Desktop Cd?
[11:18] <redrum> no i use chroot
[11:18] <gavin_> amphi: what do i need to do in that file? it lists auto lo and iface lo inet loopback underneath the commented section
[11:18] <zest> Bye, go playing some music ....
[11:18] <zest> quit
[11:18] <zest> exit
[11:18] <ggilbert_> ah. it didn't do audio when  I looked last. Was hoping that had changed
[11:18] <mwe> fedge: server provides a different set of packages
[11:18] <nootrope> niki: see here too: http://www.patoche.org/LTT/sound/00000122.html
[11:18] <fedge> mwe: like apache, php, etc?
[11:18] <crimsun> zim: open a Terminal and paste that command that I gave you
[11:18] <niki> nootrope, thats what i'm doin now lol
[11:18] <nootrope> :)
[11:18] <niki> nootrope, looks like thats the answer :)
[11:19] <ug> amphi, I have no mouse themese installed will that affect it?
[11:19] <nootrope> yep
[11:19] <redrum> gratefulfrog https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava is one alternative
[11:19] <mwe> fedge: I'm not into the details, but for one thing X is not installed by default I think
[11:19] <cached> I just installed Dapper and now when I boot to the upmost thing in Grub the internet connection doesnt work, and in the others printing doesnt work. what should i do if i need both?
[11:19] <amphi> gavin_: man 5 interfaces has the info - is your interface eth0 ?
[11:20] <mwe> fedge: it used to not install sshd by default so I think it's a little odd
[11:20] <fedge> mwe: i'm a die-hard fedora fan who wants to give ubuntu a try, so you recommend the desktop cd?
[11:20] <GoClick> Has anyone configured PostgreSQL for remote access on Ubuntu? I can't get it to listen on all IP addresses it persists in only accepting connections on 127.0.0.1
[11:20] <zim> crimsun still no sound
[11:20] <mwe> fedge: it depends on what you are going to do with it :)
[11:20] <ompaul> fedge, as long as you are willing to know that it is a lot slower
[11:20] <darklobin> !list
[11:20] <ubotu> list is probably you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:20] <gavin_> amphi: i'm not sure, i assume it would be eth0 since its the only NIC in the laptop, but it is a removable PCMCIA card... i skipped network config in the install because i didn't have it plugged into my network
[11:20] <crimsun> zim: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[11:21] <cached> well you all are a big help :(
[11:21] <mwe> fedge: if it's a server, the server cd. if it's a desktop, the desktop one
[11:21] <meheren> I want to do a fresh install but i don't want to download the huge 698 somehting .iso file is there some file that i can download that is very small that is just used to boot up the computer?
[11:21] <fedge> mwe: well, it's a little of both.  i suppose i could always install the server packages i need later
[11:21] <meheren> 698 megabytes
[11:21] <ompaul> fedge, that but if you install come back rather than researching answers we have lots of things like this
[11:21] <Oceansblue> My python idle is broken under dapper
[11:21] <ompaul> !root
[11:21] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:21] <Dandre> mwe, Fear_is_the_mind , the project leader wants me  to use sun jdk 1.4.2
[11:21] <cute_bettong> hmm the restricted codecs must be down....i cannot get the w32codecs via wget :(
[11:21] <amphi> gavin_: plug it in and do 'sudo ifconfig -a', you should see it there - I expect it's eth0, but no harm to make sure
[11:21] <lillpelle> Hi, I don't want apache to write "HTTP Response Header Location", anyone know howto do this?
[11:21] <mwe> fedge: of course
[11:22] <gavin_> amphi: is there a command to invoke auto network config?
[11:22] <mwe> fedge: the repos are the same
[11:22] <darklobin> !mbr
[11:22] <ubotu> darklobin: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:22] <TTilus> GoClick: are you sure it is about connections not being accepted _to_ certain addresses?  check if it is configured to accept connections _from_ elsewhere than localhost
[11:22] <msikma> Oh man
[11:22] <Fear_is_the_mind> i have the 1.4.1
[11:22] <mwe> fedge: only the initial install is different
[11:22] <Fear_is_the_mind> converted from the rpm
[11:22] <msikma> Why doesn't the stupid upgrade program have a "retry" button
[11:22] <Fear_is_the_mind> Dandre
[11:22] <fedge> mwe: ok, cool
[11:22] <amphi> gavin_: once you set it up, it'll be automatic
[11:22] <msikma> Every tiny little error will make it do a complete abort.
[11:22] <gavin_> amphi: yes it shows eth0 from that output
[11:22] <ggilbert_> fedge: The upside to the desktop cd is that you end up with something to play with while you do the install :p
[11:22] <msikma> I've tried to upgrade to Dapper five times now.
[11:22] <SystemBomber> is anyone able to help with wpasupplicant in dapper please, i need to know how to set it up. TIA
[11:22] <Ron_o> not to get too complicated here, but why isn't there a #ubuntu-pastebin here?
[11:22] <squiddy> I just downloaded ubuntu 6.06 final and was trying to install it, selected both the normal installation and the safe graphics one, but after having loeded the progressbar completely, my tft tells me that there is no signal..
[11:22] <squiddy> ideas? (linux newbie)
[11:22] <darklobin> !fixmbr
[11:22] <ubotu> - To put MS-Windows back on a disk that previously had Linux, boot from the Windows disk, go into the recovery console, and type fixmbr.  Another alternative is to type fdisk/mbr
[11:22] <farous> how to check if the ISP is blocking my connection to some streaming media?
[11:23] <amphi> gavin_: you want the interface to come up at boot time?
[11:23] <TTilus> GoClick: there could also be command line option hidden in init.d script which disables networking
[11:23] <meheren> I want to do a fresh install but i don't want to download the huge 698 meg or somehting .iso file is there some file that i can download that is very small that is just used to boot up the computer?
[11:23] <fedge> mwe: well, i'm looking forward to trying dapper out
[11:23] <Bizzeh> hey, i installed gcc 3.4, how do i force make to use it, instead of gcc4?
[11:23] <mwe> msikma: maybe it's time for a different approach
[11:23] <Fear_is_the_mind> ho wait wait Dandre
[11:23] <Dandre> Fear_is_the_mind, and is there any incompatibility with jre1.5 tat I already have on my system?
[11:23] <gavin_> amphi: well, at this point, i just want the interface up right now so i can download ubuntu-desktop LOL
[11:23] <msikma> Is there a sort of mistake-proof method of upgrading to Dapper without using that upgrade tool?
[11:23] <mwe> fedge: yeah
[11:23] <msikma> Apart
[11:23] <Fear_is_the_mind> I have the java 1.4.2
[11:23] <msikma> Short of using a new CD.
[11:23] <Ron_o> farous, through another internet connection or maybe ask someone else if they can receive data...
[11:23] <ggilbert_> SystemBomber: Just a thought, but installing network-manager might make your life a lot more pleasant :p
[11:23] <mwe> msikma: yes
[11:23] <meheren> I want to do a fresh install but i don't want to download the huge 698 somehting .iso file is there some file that i can download that is very small that is just used to boot up the computer?
[11:23] <SystemBomber> oky
[11:23] <SystemBomber> ty
[11:23] <zim> crimsun that worked
[11:24] <farous> Ron_o: so no way i can do from this pc now. Thanx
[11:24] <Keigo-kun> Guys, I'm going to try Ubuntu for the first time today, making a dual boot system with windows XP. 1 partition with XP, 1 with Ubuntu and 1 shared.
[11:24] <zim> will it sat
[11:24] <crimsun> zim: yes
[11:24] <Keigo-kun> How big should the ubuntu partition be?
[11:24] <Ron_o> farous, I didn't say that. :)
[11:24] <msikma> mwe: some neat terminal command?
[11:24] <Ron_o> I know you were getting to it.
[11:24] <Keigo-kun> Or rather, the free space which will become the ubuntu installation
[11:24] <zim> will it be there after a reeboot
[11:24] <squiddy> I just downloaded ubuntu 6.06 final and was trying to install it, selected both the normal installation and the safe graphics one, but after having loeded the progressbar completely, my tft tells me that there is no signal..
[11:24] <squiddy> ideas? (linux newbie)
[11:24] <Ron_o> you didn't say *how*. :)
[11:24] <gavin_> keigo: 10 gigs should be plenty
[11:24] <crimsun> zim: yes
[11:24] <mwe> msikma: sudo sed -i 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is pretty fool safe
[11:24] <zim> ty
[11:24] <msikma> I'll try that, thanks
[11:24] <meheren> I want to do a fresh install but i don't want to download the huge 698 somehting .iso file is there some file that i can download that is very small that is just used to boot up the computer?
[11:24] <Anaksel> hi all, anyone knows if ITE8211 bridge is working on 6.06?
[11:24] <ggilbert_> http://www.ehadams.com/alligare/onyxia2.jpg
[11:24] <farous> Ron_o: lol ok how  :)
[11:24] <Keigo-kun> gavin: thanks :)
[11:24] <Ron_o> meheren, yes..
[11:24] <ggilbert_> whoops
[11:24] <Ron_o> there look up netboot..
[11:24] <docta_v> i have a strange problem... after upgrade to dapper my ati bigdesktop doesn't work... at the kdm/gdm login screen it works fine but as soon as gnome or kde starts only one screen is usuable. it's like kde/gnome is somehow altering my x config after x has already started...very strange
[11:24] <Ron_o> it's in the wiki.
[11:24] <Ron_o> 30 MB I believe.
[11:24] <BHSPitMonkey> Keigo-kun: it will force you to give the minimum amount possible... anything else, just think about how many programs/files you'll have there
[11:24] <Blackocellaris> Anyone who wouldnt mind helping me set up my wireless Broadcom card?  I had it working before but now I'm getting this error using (sudo modprobe ndiswrapper -  <<<< Fatal: error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted >>>).  This is after a failed dapper installation, I decided to just keep breezy
[11:25] <amphi> gavin_: edit /etc/network/interfaces; append 'eth0' (without quotes) to the line 'auto lo', and add a new line at the end of the file, 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' (without quotes), save the file, and do 'sudo ifup eth0', and you should be set
[11:25] <Ron_o> but eventually you have to d/l the files..
[11:25] <meheren> Ron_o, where is it?
[11:25] <Ron_o> or you can order a CD.
[11:25] <Ron_o> check out the wiki.
[11:25] <Fear_is_the_mind> Dandre, here it is, sun-jre, 1.4.2 version
[11:25] <Ron_o> lookup netboot.
[11:25] <mitrovarr> I have some general questions about the new version (6.06)
[11:25] <meheren> Ron-O, so search wiki for netboot ok thx
[11:25] <Ron_o> yah.
[11:25] <SystemBomber> errrr
[11:25] <skybox> hi! can editing fstab and vice versa make your dvd reader worse? right now it's reading retail dvds very badly, they skip a lot and cpu is almost up to 100%
[11:25] <SystemBomber> i kinda removed the netwrok-manager-gnome icon from the top bit
[11:25] <farous> !tell meheren about netboot
[11:25] <mitrovarr> have many of you tried it?  Does the upgrade script work well?  Does it break anything important?
[11:26] <squiddy> I just downloaded ubuntu 6.06 final 64Bit and was trying to install it, selected both the normal installation and the safe graphics one, but after having loeded the progressbar completely, my tft tells me that there is no signal..
[11:26] <squiddy> ideas? (linux newbie)
[11:26] <meheren> hmmm
[11:26] <mbmccormick> how do i setup a terminal server, similar to the way windows xp professional and media center has? where a completely new remote session is created, while the local user's session is not affected?
[11:26] <farous> mitrovarr: so far nothing broken lol
[11:26] <ggilbert_> SystemBomber: I believe the binary name is nm-applet
[11:26] <meheren> im not getting anything
[11:26] <mwe> skybox: fstab wont affect that
[11:26] <Bizzeh> is there a export something=whatever, to allow me to use gcc3.4 instead of gcc4
[11:26] <meheren> !tell meheren about netboot
[11:26] <mitrovarr> I'm a little nervous ever since I completely hosed a good mandrake system with an upgrade.
[11:26] <farous> meheren: check your pm
[11:26] <SystemBomber> ggilbert_, ive already tried running it :P it just dont show up in taskbar atm lol
[11:26] <Fear_is_the_mind> people, shoud i replace configuration file /etc/gdm/gdm.conf  when upgrading to drapper ?
[11:26] <skybox> mwe, I see , so it's my dvd then?
[11:26] <SystemBomber> hold on lemme reboot :P
[11:26] <Dandre> Fear_is_the_mind, where?
[11:26] <meheren> nothing...
[11:26] <user__> czy jest ktos z PL ?
[11:26] <farous> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[11:26] <joh1> hi, i'm running the live cd now and about to install, but i'm a little concerned about accidentally killing my windows partition
[11:26] <gavin_> amphi: looks to be working now. thanks for the help! :)
[11:26] <meheren> ah here we go just abit slow...
[11:26] <Anaksel> I'm trying to install 6.06, but my target HD isn't listed in the installation... anyone can help?
[11:27] <amphi> !tell user about pl
[11:27] <mwe> skybox: or something else. definately not fstab
[11:27] <Fear_is_the_mind> check your incomings
[11:27] <ggilbert_> SystemBomber: ah. Thant's funky
[11:27] <Ron_o> mitrovarr, try partimage for a backup then. It's free and easy.
[11:27] <mindmedic> how do i change the default umask gnome applications use?
[11:27] <mwe> skybox: is the 64bit version or 32bit?
[11:27] <Ron_o> !netboot
[11:27] <hmpedersen> I would lie if I said I liked this sound..
[11:27] <ubotu> netboot is, like, totally, a method of installing Ubuntu over a network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[11:27] <amphi> gavin_: cool - in future, sudo ifup eth0 will bring up the interface, if it doesn't come up automatically when you insert the card
[11:27] <Ron_o> Fear_is_the_mind, I heard you should upgrade when in doubt.
[11:27] <BHSPitMonkey> joh1: it's a good idea to do a Defragment in Windows first, to be safe.
[11:27] <squiddy> I just downloaded ubuntu 6.06 final and was trying to install it, selected both the normal installation and the safe graphics one, but after having loeded the progressbar completely, my tft tells me that there is no video-signal and though i cant install it. Could anyone please help me? (linux newbie)
[11:28] <Ron_o> someone just told me that and I had no problems except I have to reconfigure my desktops.
[11:28] <BHSPitMonkey> (before shrinking a windows partition)
[11:28] <hmpedersen> Kinda sounds like my hdd is trying to make itself explode..
[11:28] <mbmccormick> how do i setup a terminal server, similar to the way windows xp professional and media center has? where a completely new remote session is created, while the local user's session is not affected?
[11:28] <mwe> squiddle: that's odd
[11:28] <gavin_> amphi: good to know, thanks again
[11:28] <mwe> squiddle: I'd recommend the text install in that case
[11:28] <canllaith> Hiya, I'm using ubuntu dapper and my gnome is complaining that it doesn't recognise SVG icons. Does anyone know what package I might be missing?
[11:29] <squiddy> mwe: how can i start the text install?
[11:29] <gavin_> mbmccormick look up FreeNX... i've been using that and it rocks so far
[11:29] <amphi> gavin_: if you are likely to boot without the card, you might want to remove 'eth0' from the line 'auto lo eth0' if the absence of the card causes an excessively long timeout at boot time
[11:29] <joh1> on the "prepare mount points" screen, if i leave my windows partition "mount point" as blank, it'll leave it alone right?
[11:29] <NRV> I just installed ubuntu for the first time,,, need help
[11:29] <zukalk> MehAdult: thank you, everything's up and runnin' thanks to the thread you pointed me to
[11:29] <redrum> !vnc
[11:29] <gavin_> amphi: well, the card will probably remain in, but it might not always be plugged into anything.
[11:29] <ubotu> vnc is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[11:29] <simp> while trying to change the permissions of a folder/file/partition i get an error saying that i don't have access to these settings. it is FAT32 partition and i'm logged in as the "admin" user(the one that is created while the installtion)
[11:29] <mbmccormick> thanks gavin
[11:29] <Fear_is_the_mind> nothing is coming in Dandre ?
[11:29] <mwe> squiddle: I think that's another cd. I must admit I upgrade from breezy so I'm not into the details
[11:29] <amphi> gavin_: maybe remove eth0 from auto lo eth0, or see how it goes
[11:29] <Ron_o> simp, you must use SUDO.
[11:29] <Ron_o> !sudo
[11:29] <ubotu> well, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:30] <nbx909> simp, use sudo infront of the commands to be a root users
[11:30] <nbx909> -s
[11:30] <squiddle> mwe  stop it, im not squiddy :)
[11:30] <sergiol> in what package i can found the manpage 1 of ulimit?
[11:30] <NRV> in the install it never ask for username,,, what is the defaut
[11:30] <mitrovarr> thanks guys, laters
[11:30] <squiddy> lol
[11:30] <mwe> squiddle: heh. sorry :)
[11:30] <simp> yes but i'm not doing it in terminal nbx909 / Ron_o
[11:30] <gavin_> amphi: can i set a max wait on eth0 coming up to prevent extremely long wait times at boot?
[11:30] <Dandre> Fear_is_the_mind, I don't see
[11:30] <Anaksel> please, anyone can help me with 6.06 not recognising the HD on a ITE8211 bridge?
[11:30] <Fear_is_the_mind> arh
[11:30] <gavin_> amphi: or does it even take that long to give up on time out?
[11:30] <squiddy> ok I'll search the correct version -.- 700mb again
[11:30] <Ron_o> NRV, it had to ask for username.
[11:30] <nbx909> simp, when you run the program do sudo program name in the terminal
[11:30] <Ron_o> try nothing and see what happens.
[11:30] <amphi> gavin_: dunno
[11:30] <Ron_o> hit return.
[11:30] <mwe> squiddy: hmm
[11:30] <sergiol> apt-cache search ulimit
[11:30] <sergiol> has returned nothing
[11:30] <Fear_is_the_mind> wait a moment Dandre, i put it on the internet
[11:30] <Dandre> Fear_is_the_mind, do you have a link?
[11:31] <gavin_> amphi: well i'll see how it goes.
[11:31] <Fear_is_the_mind> i'm uploading it
[11:31] <mwe> squiddy: can't you boot it without framebuffer or something like the old one?
[11:31] <NRV> nothing retur to be error
[11:31] <SystemBomber> Lol...nm-applet is gone
[11:31] <SystemBomber> nothing in my icon area :P
[11:31] <mwe> squiddle: can't you go to a menu to select boot options?
[11:31] <amphi> sergiol: man bash perhaps
[11:31] <squiddy> well i do not know what the hell a framebuffer is
[11:31] <mwe> squiddle: again :|
[11:31] <Selaiah> Does anyone know how to get the Ralink RT2500 on Dapper to connect to a WPA2 (static IP's) encrypted network?
[11:32] <Ron_o> NRV, I don't know.
[11:32] <squiddy> but i can tell you that ubuntu 5.10 is working
[11:32] <mwe> squiddy: yes
[11:32] <Fear_is_the_mind> it will be ready in 10 minutes, Dandre
[11:32] <mwe> squiddy: so 5.10 is already istalled?
[11:32] <joh1> how do i install ubuntu without hosing my windows partition?
[11:32] <squiddy> yes it is
[11:33] <mwe> squiddy: just upgrade without the cd then
[11:33] <SystemBomber> oo found it
[11:33] <mwe> squiddy: you don't need to reinstall
[11:33] <Admiral> i have a way i can install packages withou the CD
[11:33] <amphi> joh1: backup the windows partition, if you want absolute security ;)
[11:33] <finley> i'm working on systemimager (trunk) support for dapper; i've just imaged a system, but upon reboot, /var/run was not mounted
[11:33] <Admiral> i'm trying to install NFS but it's asking me for the breezy CD
[11:33] <finley> and, running /etc/init.d/mtab start does not mount it
[11:33] <andrisp> hello all, what to do if i can't run Package Manager (Add Application) anymore ?
[11:34] <msikma> Hmm
[11:34] <squiddy> ok thank you
[11:34] <msikma> I can't properly update to Dapper because my repositories are failing.
[11:34] <msikma> Some of the Dutch mirrors can't be statted.
[11:34] <mwe> finley: is it proberly defined in /etc/fstab?
[11:34] <joh1> amphi, i'm pretty confident, but what i mean is, what do i select from the partition screen to leave it alone
[11:34] <mwe> finley: not set to noauto
[11:34] <finley> mwe: unfortunately, no.
[11:35] <joh1> do i unmount or deactivate it perhaps?
[11:35] <finley> mwe: it appears to get mounted when /etc/init.d/mtab is run
[11:35] <mwe> finley: what does fstab look like? can you put it on paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[11:36] <finley> sure.  one sec.
[11:36] <crazy_penguin> good night to all. sleep well! :)
[11:36] <mwe> gn
[11:37] <finley> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15147
[11:37] <sillu> hello again... (sillu=simp)my computer crashed... nbx909 what did you say again? i just saw the red flash and then it crashed...
[11:38] <nbx909> sillu, wa?
[11:38] <sillu> nbx909: i'm simp... i can't change the partitions
[11:38] <nbx909> oh
[11:38] <sillu> :)
[11:38] <mwe> finley: is it raid or lvm or what?
[11:38] <Fear_is_the_mind> obviously i've upgraded
[11:38] <nbx909> sillu, use sudo infront of the command to start the program
[11:39] <gratefulfrog>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY wig777
[11:39] <Selaiah> Does anyone know how to get the Ralink RT2500 on Dapper to connect to a WPA2 (static IP's) encrypted network?
[11:39] <farous> gratefulfrog: we all read that ;)
[11:39] <r4zz> could someone have a look at my fstab as well please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15149 just want to make sure I set the other partitions properly
[11:39] <finley> mwe: yes
[11:39] <gavin_> speaking of partitions: what is the deal with LVM? two different ubuntu installs i've done where i was completely unable to make any changes to the LVM stuff without hosing the entire installation (infinite loop in the partitioner, requires restart of installer) - simply by trying to resize the swap and / LVM partitions
[11:39] <finley> mwe: raid on top of lvm
[11:39] <dust_> hi! i have a gdesklet that i want to remove but it says that i need root. can i get root control for the desktop?
[11:40] <finley> mwe: sorry, backwards -- lvm on top of raid
[11:40] <goo-man> I just created a new Ubuntu user, deleted my "first" user ("test") and now of course can't sudo to fix my mistake nor run "Users and Groups" panel. D'oh! Ideas?
[11:40] <ablyss> dust_:  did you install the desklet as root?
[11:40] <chapium> goo-man: you have to put the new user into the sudo group
[11:40] <chapium> or admin
[11:40] <slabby> !xmms
[11:40] <ubotu> I heard xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[11:40] <jdmpike> what are the best open source web desin tools?
[11:40] <distanceisdeath> how do i install banshee?
[11:41] <jdmpike> is there anything better than Nvu?
[11:41] <goo-man> yeah, but too late. I can't sudo to do that.
[11:41] <slabby> what is the name of the audio program?
[11:41] <JoeMauch> does XGL not like my x1600xt? I updated the video card drivers and x starts but GDM doesnt.
[11:41] <nbx909> distanceisdeath, sudo apt-get install banshee
[11:41] <Pegger> anyone run ubuntu of sparc?
[11:41] <distanceisdeath> thanks
[11:41] <finley> Pegger: not yet, but i plan on giving it a try soon
[11:41] <goo-man> because the user "test" that could have done a 'sudo' no longer exists.
[11:41] <hmpedersen> Can there be any doubt by now, you should always be careful with your password?
[11:41] <finley> Pegger: currently have it on amd64, x86, and powerpc
[11:42] <dust_> ablyss: i don't believe so. i just placed it on the desktop from the gdesklet shell.
[11:42] <goo-man> guess I'll boot from CD and try to fix
[11:42] <Pegger> finley, which ype of machien do you plan on running it on
[11:42] <mwe> finley: ok. I'm no expert on that, but from what I see /var should be mounted automatically. I don't know why it isn't
[11:42] <hmpedersen> Gotta reboot
[11:42] <finley> Pegger: sparc-wise, i don't know yet
[11:43] <finley> depends on what we have available
[11:43] <mwe> r4zz: provided you supplied the correct partitions your fstab looks fine to me
[11:43] <Pegger> finley what about the new cool threads,  I realy want to get some of those to try it out on
[11:43] <sean__> is dsa or rsa for SSH better?
[11:43] <finley> mwe: thanks for having a look.  /var/ is mounted fine, it's /var/run on the varrun device that i need help with.
[11:44] <nf4> hello dose any one use electric sheep on 6.06?
[11:44] <finley> Pegger: heh.  yup.
[11:44] <mwe> finley: oh
[11:44] <finley> Pegger: sun amd64 is what we've been deploying for both linux and solaris lately (mostly linux), and we've been very pleased.
[11:44] <mwe> finley: but that's not mentioned in your fstab
[11:44] <distanceisdeath> how do i install java?
[11:44] <Marineboy> hey, i done a sudo for opensshd
[11:45] <Marineboy> its not letting me ssh in though?
[11:45] <mwe> finley: maybe you should add it
[11:45] <Marineboy> any pointers?
[11:45] <ablyss> dust_: you can remove the .gdesklets config directory and start over? e.g., sudo rm -fr .gdesklets
[11:45] <ablyss> dust_: or better yet just remove that particular sensor
[11:45] <finley> mwe: exactly.  it is mounted by the /etc/init.d/mtab script, but it's not clear to me how it's failing to mount at this point
[11:45] <factorx> gn8
[11:46] <spikeb> what the heck does gnate mean?
[11:46] <mwe> finley: I don't understand why it shouldn't be mounted in fstab
[11:46] <dust_> okay, but is there away to use root on the desktop?
[11:46] <Fear_is_the_mind> Dandre, i've given you the url in private
[11:46] <finley> mwe: domtab tmpfs /var/run "varrun"
[11:46] <finley> mwe:  that's the line in /etc/init.d/mtab that attempts to mount it
[11:46] <Bizzeh> why doesnt bison install yyparse
[11:46] <Marineboy> !mount
[11:46] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[11:46] <nf4> what is the name of the otd ubuntu room or hardware
[11:46] <Marineboy> !windowsdrives
[11:46] <ubotu> [windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[11:47] <brokenthorn> I'm searching for an OpenSource application simillar to Google's Picasa (now for linux but uses wine code :/)
[11:47] <spikeb> f-spot might do what you want
[11:47] <finley> f-spot rocks
[11:47] <brokenthorn> f-spot - nice name :p
[11:48] <Bot_Builder> yeah, f-spot is what you want
[11:48] <ggilbert_> take a gander at f-spot or digikam
[11:48] <mwe> finley: domtab() says mount if not already mounted. I'd try adding it to fstab
[11:48] <Bot_Builder> there's a gspot too, dunno what it does, saw it in the repo
[11:48] <Marineboy> !opensshd
[11:48] <ubotu> Marineboy: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:48] <Marineboy> !ssh
[11:48] <ubotu> ssh is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[11:48] <squiddy> mwe: maybe i am stupid but i am unable to update ubuntu 510
[11:49] <mwe> squiddy: how are you trying?
[11:49] <squiddy> well i am trying to start the management for the update. my translations are bad, using a german ubuntu version
[11:50] <squiddy> when clicking on preferences, the manager tells me that there is a new version
[11:50] <Dandre> Fear_is_the_mind, I don't see PM, I am using xchat but I don't really know how to use it
[11:50] <mwe> squiddy: oh. I'd do it from the command line then
[11:50] <squiddy> in the preferences menu, there is no 6.06 version chooseble
[11:50] <mwe> squiddy: I haven't tried the auto updater thing
[11:50] <squiddy> update from the web or from the cd
[11:50] <brokenthorn> Bot_Builder, hmm l'll try fspot but in the mean time any other suggestions? Anything that is meant not to be easy? :D
[11:50] <finley> mwe: i could ad it to /etc/mtab if it were a single machine i was trying to hack into shape
[11:51] <squiddy> i have the terminal open. plz tell me how to update
[11:51] <finley> mwe: however,
[11:51] <Fear_is_the_mind> i use xchat too
[11:51] <mwe> squiddle: from the web
[11:51] <Fear_is_the_mind> hehehe
[11:51] <squiddy> squiddle or squiddy?
[11:51] <nbx909> O.o
[11:51] <finley> mwe: in this case, i'm making modifications to enterprise deployment software that needs to replicate machines _as they are_.
[11:51] <mwe> finley: dont mess with mtab!
[11:51] <mwe> finley: put it into fstab
[11:52] <finley> mwe: i can't assume that others will be happy with me deciding to re-configure this aspect of their systems
[11:52] <sam__> file:///home/sam/Desktop/Kvcd_The_Da_Vinci_Code_TC_mpg.xdcc
[11:52] <mwe> finley: no
[11:52] <Fear_is_the_mind> Dandre ? is it ok ? here=> http://blackbanana.free.fr/Dean/sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2+11_i386.deb
[11:52] <finley> mwe: putting it in /etc/fstab is the easy way out, but is fixing the symptom, not the problem.
[11:52] <mwe> finley: that's true
[11:53] <mwe> finley: I guess /etc/init.d/mtab should be fixed. or your setup
[11:53] <sergiol> ubuntu buy default reads /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc?
[11:53] <sergiol> buy->by
[11:53] <squid> mwe: so how can i update my system via commandline. and should i update from the web or from the cd?
[11:53] <Dandre> Fear_is_the_mind,  ok fine
[11:53] <Fear_is_the_mind> great
[11:53] <finley> mwe: i want to fix systemimager to handle this situation, but i need to understand the situation first.
[11:54] <mwe> finley: yes
[11:54] <mwe> squid: sudo sed -i 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is pretty fool safe
[11:54] <mwe> squid: try that
[11:55] <squid> i will. thanks
[11:55] <mwe> squid: come back if it complains
[11:55] <Dandre> time to go to bed, good night
[11:55] <cached> woohoo i was banned from ubuntu-offtopipc
[11:56] <cached> woohoo i was banned from ubuntu-offtopic
[11:56] <zukalk> any reason why beep's not working since dapper?
[11:56] <nbx909> ....
[11:56] <nootrope> beep's what?
[11:56] <squid> mwe: well.. it does not work
[11:56] <mwe> squid: what happened?
[11:57] <amphi> cached: how did you sin?
[11:57] <squid> i tryed all of the 3 things in the order you wrote them
[11:57] <Madpilot> cached, keep it up and you'll be banned from here too...
[11:57] <squid> 1st: nothing happens
[11:57] <mwe> squid: paste sources.list to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:57] <mwe> squid: that's a good sign
[11:57] <mwe> squid: it means it worked
[11:58] <mtoledo> Does anyone  noticed a problem in changing the initial date of the week in gnome? I have it set do Sunday and the calendar appears initial date as Monday. Any idea?
[11:58] <squid> mwe squid: paste sources.list to paste.ubuntu-nl.or
[11:58] <squid> how do you mean that
[11:58] <valberg> i need some help here
[11:58] <squid> what should i exactly do. i do not know what i am doing ;)
[11:58] <valberg> i've just run apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:58] <mwe> squid: yes. first tell me what happened on sudo apt-get update
[11:58] <rhican> is there a way to quickly "reset" an ubuntu installation? just reinstall the base system
[11:59] <squid> ok
[11:59] <mwe> Seveas: do you know if using automatix is approved now? the factoid seems to have changed.
[11:59] <sergiol> to enable generation of core files ulimit -c unlimited is enough?
[11:59] <squid> mwe squid: paste sources.list to paste.ubuntu-nl.or
[11:59] <squid> oh sry
[11:59] <Seveas> !automatix
[11:59] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[11:59] <Seveas> WTF
[11:59] <Seveas> !no automatix is a piece of crap that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[11:59] <ubotu> Seveas: please, watch your language.
[11:59] <valberg> and now when it has fetched all the packages it comes with an error saying something like this (translated from danish): dpkg: error handling package  /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb (--unpack): \n tried to overwrite '/usr/bin/scanpci' which is also in the package gatos
[11:59] <amphi> Seveas: ;)
[12:00] <Seveas> !no automatix is a piece of cr*p that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[12:00] <ubotu> okay, Seveas