[12:07] <jordi> set followup_to=no                      # Don't be smart about Followup-To:
[12:07] <jordi> We'll see
[12:07] <jordi> thanks kiko
[12:08] <jordi> I wonder why it does this though
[12:08] <kiko> same here
[12:12] <jordi> I guess some pattern matches part of your addresses and it triggers Mail-Followup-To.
[12:13] <jordi> subscribe ca twig-devel hacklabs
[12:13] <jordi> woa
[12:13] <jordi> "ca"
[12:24] <jordi> carlos: did you upload the pledgebank pot?
[12:25] <carlos> I think so, yes, I did an upload last week, let me check... (the request was done by upstream maintainer directly)
[12:25] <jordi> oh ok
[12:25] <jordi> I was about to mail Tim about it
[12:25] <carlos> no, I did democracyplayer
[12:26] <jordi> ok
[12:26] <jordi> pledgebank was in the queue
[12:26] <jordi> and is now imported
[12:26] <jordi> so I guess you did it as well
[12:26] <jordi> it's in staging too
[12:26] <carlos> I approved today the French translation
[12:26] <jordi> in staging, it's in the queue.
[12:26] <jordi> weird.
[12:26] <carlos> nothing more
[12:26] <jordi> I'll mail him
[12:27] <carlos> jordi: dude, pledgebank has been there since last year...
[12:27] <carlos> jordi: 2005-12-14
[12:27] <carlos> jordi: look at the template details
[12:27] <jordi> woops
[12:30] <carlos> ;-)
[12:31] <jordi> nite!
[12:42] <kiko> carlos, your patch looks generally good but I have some questions
[12:42] <kiko> I am exausted today though
[12:42] <carlos> sure
[12:42] <kiko> I wonder if I can give you feedback tomorrow or..
[12:42] <carlos> well, it depends on how urgent is to have it landed to open edgy
[12:42] <carlos> I don't know what's the edgy status
[12:42] <kiko> it's urgent
[12:46] <carlos> kiko: anyway, I need to leave soon
[12:46] <carlos> or I will not be able to wake up tomorrow...
[12:51] <kiko> same here carlos 
[08:03] <stub> SteveA, spiv, jamesh: We have a call scheduled now according to my arithmetic
[08:04] <jamesh> stub: didn't SteveA say 0700 UTC?
[08:04] <stub> I have 0600 in my logs. Did he change it?
[08:04] <jamesh> I think so
[08:05] <stub> Ahh.. yes. found the update.
[08:05] <jamesh> he gave a new time during the reviewer's meeting
[08:05] <jamesh> reviewers' meeting, even
[08:44] <SteveA> hello
[08:44] <SteveA> yeah, 0700 so that malcolm can attend
[08:44] <SteveA> so that's 15 mins
[09:00] <malcc> SteveA: Do I call you or will you call me?
[09:00] <SteveA> i'll call you
[09:01] <SteveA> spiv, jamesh 
[09:01] <stub> Music to debug page tests too :-P
[09:01] <spiv> I'm ready.
[09:01] <SteveA> "if you like to gamble..."
[09:02] <SteveA> spiv: i don't see your reassuring green circle-tick in skype
[09:02] <jamesh> I only see a green tick for spiv ...
[09:02] <spiv> SteveA: That's ok, I don't see yours either ;)
[09:02] <SteveA> "you win some, you loose some, it's all the same to me"
[09:02] <spiv> I see jamesh and stub just fine.
[09:03] <stub> Ahh bite me
[09:04] <SteveA> spiv: having trouble calling you
[09:05] <stub> problems with sound device
[09:05] <stub> :-P
[09:05] <spiv> SteveA: you just turned green...
[09:06] <stub> Don't invite me until I get some success with echo
[09:06] <SteveA> ok
[09:06] <SteveA> ping me here when you're ready
[09:09] <stub> I appear to have an unkillable rhythmbox process. Rebooting.
[09:10] <stub> Maybe I should bite the bullet and upgrade to XP :-P
[09:10] <SteveA> ewww
[09:36] <SteveA> bug 33223
[09:36] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 33223 in launchpad-bazaar "SFTP server should give human-friendly errors for name restrictions" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/33223
[09:57] <SteveA> bug 44913
[09:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 44913 in launchpad "Search string causes syntax error in full text engine" [Major,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/44913
[10:04] <carlos> morning
[10:15] <SteveA> hi carlos
[10:16] <SteveA> carlos: i propose we have a skype call in an hour or so.
[10:16] <carlos> hmm, sure, I would want to do a merge that should be cherrypicked today to prepare Rosetta for edgy
[10:17] <carlos> SteveA: do you mind if we delay it until 10:00 UTC ?
[10:17] <SteveA> it is fine
[10:17] <carlos> ok, thanks
[10:20] <fabbione> why can't i reassign bugs to "nobody"?
[10:21] <spiv> fabbione: https://launchpad.net/products/malone/+bug/46847
[10:21] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 46847 in malone "Assigning bugs to 'Nobody' doesn't work" [Normal,Fix committed]  
[10:22] <fabbione> spiv: ok, so what do we do in the meantime?
[10:22] <SteveA> you wait until the rollout today
[10:22] <fabbione> SteveA: ah ok.. that means assigning to you and enjoy? ;)
[10:23] <SteveA> i think it means go buy a station wagon, then come back later and enjoy
[10:23] <fabbione> SteveA: ehehhe
[11:15] <stub> So 30-peoplemerge.txt was consistently failing for me again (4 merge attempts in a row). I refactored it to use the new test machinery and removing some of the previous attempts to fix this problem and it landed fine.
[11:24] <SteveA> interesting
[11:25] <SteveA> did you ever try running it on balleny by hand?
[11:29] <stub> Nup
[11:30] <stub> Launchpad will be going down for its regular code update in 30mins time. Estimated downtime is 10 minutes.
[11:32] <carlos> stub: if you could wait, I have a merge request in pqm that should be cherrypicked
[11:32] <carlos> stub: it's to prepare Rosetta for Edgy
[11:33] <stub> carlos: Can we run it on staging for a day or two? I hadn't realized that opening edgy was a high enough priority to bypass the rollout procedures.
[11:34] <carlos> stub: I tested it in dogfood
[11:34] <carlos> stub: it's not complex
[11:35] <carlos> it just point to a concrete distrorelease instead of latest distribution in development
[11:35] <BjornT> SteveA: when jamesh reviewed one of my branch he commented on that i was creating a vocabulary locally in the view code, and all our other vocabularies are defined in vocabularies/. what do you think, should all our vocabularies be in one location, or is it ok to define them elsewhere if they are only to be used by a single view class?
[11:35] <BjornT> i think having them in the browser code makes most sense, since that's the place where it's used and it's a very specific vocabulary which only makes sense to use on one page.
[11:35] <carlos> so it's a new field in the DB and an update to one pagetemplate and a couple of portlets
[11:36] <SteveA> BjornT: what does the vocabulary present?
[11:36] <stub> carlos: But is it urgent?
[11:36] <carlos> stub: it should be in production before Edgy is added to launchpad
[11:37] <stub> carlos: So it isn't urgent as far as I'm aware. ok.
[11:37] <BjornT> SteveA: a set of subscription options: "Subscribe me", "Unsubscribe Launchpad Developers", "Unsubscribe Some Other Team", etc.
[11:38] <carlos> stub: Hmmm, kiko said it's urgent, aren't we adding edgy this week?
[11:38] <carlos> if the answer is 'no', yes, we can wait
[11:39] <carlos> SteveA: I sent the merge request already, if you want to have the meeting now, I'm ready
[11:39] <SteveA> kiko was going to check with mdz about when mdz wants edgy to be opened.
[11:39] <SteveA> mark is keen to not delay much at all to open edgy
[11:40] <Kinnison> mdz stated that edgy will open either today or tomorrow on his tentative timeline
[11:40] <SteveA> so that we don't get the same thing as opening dapper where (due to teething problems with rolling out soyuz) the opening was delayed for quite a while.
[11:40] <Kinnison> Infinity has asked that whenever we open Edgy we do *NOT* provide chroots until he has time to update them with the toolchain changes for edgy
[11:41] <stub> Should I delay the rollout until tomorrow then?
[11:41] <SteveA> so, i'm keen on carlos' patch getting into production soon.  i think it has minimal risk of screwing things up.
[11:41] <SteveA> BjornT: so, it is not a vocabulary that presents content objects or dbschemas ?
[11:41] <Kinnison> We should have stuff we're going to be relying on in production for as long as possible so that we can be sure of stability :-)
[11:42] <SteveA> Kinnison: i can't make sense of that sentence
[11:42] <Kinnison> SteveA: I assume carlos' fix is to do with opening edgy?
[11:42] <SteveA> it is to do with getting people translating the appropriate things 
[11:42] <SteveA> which is relevant when opening edgy
[11:43] <Kinnison> Aaah it's a UI fix?
[11:43] <SteveA> in a broad sense
[11:43] <carlos> Kinnison: if we open edgy with current code, translators will be drived to edgy translations (that are not yet open), the patch I did point them to dapper
[11:43] <BjornT> SteveA: no, not really. the values in the vocabulary are content objects, though, teams and a person.
[11:43] <carlos> Kinnison: yes, an UI fix
[11:44] <Kinnison> Righty
[11:44] <SteveA> BjornT: from the options above, it looks like the vocabulary exists only to make it possible to use a choice-style widget
[11:44] <Kinnison> Nothing for me to worry about wrt. actually opening edgy in terms of archive etc
[11:44] <BjornT> SteveA: exactly
[11:45] <SteveA> BjornT: so, i'm fine with these going in browser code, provided the vocabularies module has a clear notices about its scope being for vocabularies that are directly presenting collections of content objects or dbschemas.  and, if you move any other vocabularies that would be better in browser code into there.
[11:45] <stub> ok. I'm going to abort this rollout and reschedule for tomorrow my morning - r3643 + whatever revision carlos' patch gets.
[11:46] <SteveA> otherwise, put the vocabulary into the standard place, and file a bug on reorganising the vocabularies
[11:46] <SteveA> stub: okay.  please mail the list about this, so everyone will know.
[11:48] <stub>  Launchpad Rollout cancelled, rescheduled for tomorrow around 03:00 UTC
[11:49] <carlos> stub: I will mail you the cherry pick request as soon as I get the revision number
[11:51] <BjornT> SteveA: ok, i will explain the scope in the vocabularies module and see if i can move some vocabularies to browser code.
[11:52] <SteveA> the point of putting similar things together is to avoid duplication of concepts and encourage reuse of code
[11:52] <SteveA> but when things aren't really all that similar, then that doesn't make so much sense
[12:01] <SteveA> BjornT, stub, spiv: did you print out your zope foundation agreements yet?
[12:01] <carlos> SteveA: meeting time?
[12:01] <SteveA> carlos: yes, i'll start up skype
[12:01] <BjornT> SteveA: yes, i mailed it to Victor this morning
[12:02] <SteveA> thanks bjorn
[12:03] <SteveA> carlos: try kill esd
[12:03] <carlos> I did it already
[12:03] <carlos> ...
[12:03] <stub> SteveA: printed but not mailed yet
[12:03] <stub> (need to find where wifey put the envelopes)
[12:20] <mvo> hello! who should I talk to for bazaar.launchpad.net?
[12:23] <carlos> hmm
[12:23] <carlos> BjornT: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/file4Ebkqh.html
[12:23] <carlos> I got that error with my merge request to PQM
[12:23] <carlos> and I didn't touch that test
[12:24] <carlos> mvo: I guess ddaa
[12:24] <SteveA> mvo: what is your question?
[12:24] <mvo> carlos: ok, thanks. I'll try to talk to him then. I was wondering if it is possible for ubuntu-{members,motus} to push their branches to it
[12:25] <mvo> ^-- SteveA
[12:25] <mvo> SteveA: one of our contributors (glatzor) will lose his server soon and needs a new place to push his development bzr branches
[12:25] <SteveA> mvo: if they are using knit format, not possible until after the next launchpad production update
[12:25] <mvo> SteveA: he is using weaves AFAIK
[12:26] <SteveA> but sure, the point of bazaar.launchpad.net is for people to put open source software branches on there
[12:26] <SteveA> weaves will work now
[12:26] <mvo> SteveA: is it somewhere documented what he has to do to push his stuff?
[12:26] <SteveA> that i do not know
[12:26] <mvo> SteveA: kamion gave me a hint ('bzr push sftp://$USER@bazaar.launchpad.net/~$OWNER/$PRODUCT/$BRANCHNAME' ) but it seems to be not doing the trick
[12:27] <SteveA> would you mail the launchpad-users list about this?
[12:27] <SteveA> david is in a meeting in london right now, but i think he'll be reading email
[12:27] <SteveA> i'll make sure he sees it
[12:28] <mvo> I can do this, thanks - once I found out I'll setup a wiki page
[12:29] <SteveA> cool
[12:29] <SteveA> stub: voice call?
[12:29] <BjornT> carlos: ok, that confirms it, launchpad tests are not run on commits to the zope3 tree, and it seems that i didn't have the latest version of rf when i fixed the imports.
[12:30] <BjornT> carlos: please fix the failing line to read '>>> from zope.testbrowser.testing import Browser', that will make the error go away.
[12:30] <carlos> ok
[12:31] <carlos> hmmm, I don't have that test in my branch...
[12:39] <carlos> Is there any way to prevent the creation of canonical.supermirrorsftp.tests. directory every time we run tests?
[12:42] <SteveA> carlos: mail the launchpad list.  spiv would have something to say about that, i'm sure.
[12:42] <SteveA> stub: ?
[12:43] <SteveA> (pinging stub for voice call)
[12:43] <carlos> ok
[12:56] <stub> SteveA: back
[01:38] <Yannig> Hello everybody :)
[01:38] <Yannig> Another dumb question: is there any way to contact a translator in my team if he did not give his prefered address?
[01:41] <carlos> Yannig: there is a tricky option, download a .po file that he's the last translator for and you will get his email
[01:46] <Yannig> He hasn't translated anything for now :p
[01:47] <Yannig> I can also wait :)
[01:54] <cprov> good morning, guys
[02:05] <carlos> cprov: morning
[02:08] <cprov> carlos: did your rosetta tests work in mawson ?
[02:09] <carlos> cprov: yes, you can kill that branch
[02:09] <carlos> thanks
[02:10] <cprov> carlos: congrats, we will rollout production to mawson this time, I think
[02:15] <krystiann> Hi, is this the right place to ask for help at importing an OpenPGP key to launchpad.net?
[02:16] <salgado> krystiann, yes!
[02:18] <krystiann> wonderful. Well, i just entered my fingerprint, got an email from launchpad. in it there was just an 4 digit number, but no link to authenticate the receive of the email
[02:19] <krystiann> any idea?
[02:20] <salgado> krystiann, that email should be encrypted. did you decrypt it?
[02:21] <krystiann> no, so i have to install some plugin for kmai,right?
[02:22] <jsgotangco> im not sure if kmail goes with a gpg plugin by default
[02:22] <krystiann> ok, i look for it
[02:28] <krystiann> i found a howto for that at ubuntuusers.de. Thanks so far.
[02:53] <carlos> later
[03:17] <salgado> hey SteveA. if you have a minute, it'd be great if you could have a look at https://launchpad.net/bugs/48608
[03:27] <stub> salgado: So why do shipit administrators need to be able to create extra orders for people? We either need to stop this, or refactor shipit to cope with multiple approved and unshipped orders.
[03:28] <stub> I'm not sure of the need, as the administrator could just edit the existing order rather than create new ones (?)
[03:48] <SteveA> salgado: the bug report says that we can't avoid multiple shipit requests per person bug doesn't explain why that is so
[03:49] <stub> SteveA: It is described in Bug 5814 I think
[03:49] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 5814 in launchpad "want to know breakdown of test run time by area of development" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5814
[03:49] <stub> Or not...
[03:50] <salgado> it's 5812: https://launchpad.net/products/shipit/+bug/5812
[03:50] <salgado> SteveA, ^
[03:50] <salgado> no, that doesn't explay why either
[03:51] <stub> Bug 48021
[03:52] <stub> Oops... its Beer O'Clock!
[03:56] <mdke> kiko-zzz: can you teach your mail server to accept my email pls?
[04:00] <stub> kiko-zzz's mail server hates everyone, including kiko sometimes
[04:01] <spiv> mvo: What problem are you having with bzr push to bazaar.launchpad.net?
[04:02] <mdke> stub: hehe
[04:02] <mvo> spiv: I tested it for a contributor (glatzor) and it complained when I tried to push "update-manager" that it can't create a directory. but glatzor send a mail to launchpad-users about it already
[04:02] <spiv> mvo: Ah ok, I'll look at launchpad-users.
[04:03] <mvo> thanks!
[04:03] <glatzor> thanks spiv
[04:06] <doko> cprov: is there a way to grep the build logs for something and mail the results to somebody (for every build)? or do that better with some infinity magic?
[04:07] <cprov> doko: yes, we will work in something like this in paris, the buildd will identify special cases and ask launchpad to mail/warn interested people
[04:08] <cprov> doko: btw, what would you like to grep, for instance ?
[04:09] <doko> cprov: compiler warnings
[04:10] <cprov> doko: would you like to have your own regexps (per pkg) or could it be some set of pre-defined ones ?
[04:10] <spiv> glatzor: I've replied to your launchpad-users message, but I can't really offer any good advice -- you look like you've done everything right.
[04:11] <spiv> glatzor: it appears that it just doesn't like the SSH key you have in Launchpad.
[04:11] <spiv> Or rather, it's failing to authenticate against that public key.
[04:11] <glatzor> spiv: Do I need the gnupg installed on the system that I am pushing from?
[04:12] <doko> cprov: compiler warnings tend to change, so maybe that's not predefined. currently I'm interested in three particular warnings; these may change in the future
[04:12] <glatzor> gnupg key
[04:12] <spiv> glatzor: it's not gnupg, it's ssh.
[04:12] <spiv> You do need the ssh key on the system you're pushing from
[04:13] <glatzor> oh. that could be the error. 
[04:13] <spiv> Ah :)
[04:14] <spiv> You can register multiple SSH keys in launchpad if you need to push from multiple machines.
[04:14] <glatzor> spiv: can I specify the to be used ssh key with bzr?
[04:14] <glatzor> e.g.: bzr -i SSH_KEY
[04:15] <cprov> doko: right, good to know, will note it as a pre-requisite to be discussed in paris, thank you for the feedback.
[04:15] <spiv> glatzor: bzr will use openssh, so it will use the openssh config.
[04:15] <spiv> glatzor: man ssh_config
[04:16] <glatzor> spiv: but I can use an alternative ssh key using the ssh command: ssh -i KEY host
[04:17] <spiv> Yeah, bzr doesn't have a way to pass options to openssh that I know of.
[04:17] <glatzor> spiv: but thanks so far.
[04:17] <spiv> You could add two lines like this to your ~/.ssh/config though:
[04:17] <spiv> Host bazaar.launchpad.net
[04:17] <glatzor> I will try it immediately
[04:17] <spiv>     IdentityFile path/to/KEY
[04:17] <glatzor> ah. fine
[04:17] <spiv> You could also add:
[04:18] <spiv>     User glatzor
[04:18] <spiv> To save you from needing to put "glatzor@" in the push URL :)
[04:18] <spiv> The openssh config file has lots of handy options :)
[04:21] <kiko> hello hello
[04:21] <kiko> cprov, I have a review for you
[04:21] <cprov> kiko: good, mail me and/or lp-reviews, thank you
[04:22] <kiko> will do
[04:23] <carlos> kiko: I have PoMsgSetPage without test failures and, I think, with everything in place (finally)
[04:23] <carlos> kiko: I'm going to ask a second review
[04:24] <spiv> glatzor: let me know how it goes
[04:24] <kiko> carlos, UNBELIEVABLE :)
[04:24] <kiko> cprov, sent 3 reviews
[04:24] <spiv> glatzor: (I'm the developer responsible for the SFTP server, so I'm keen to make sure it actually works for people...)
[04:27] <glatzor> spiv: sebi@sebi-mac:~/Desktop/Entwicklung/podiff/sebi$ bzr push --create-prefix sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~glatzor/podiff/main
[04:27] <glatzor> Enter passphrase for key '/home/sebi/dsa-launchpad':
[04:27] <glatzor> 0 revision(s) pushed.
[04:28] <spiv> "0 revisions(s) pushed." is a bug in bzr, I think -- looks like that worked.
[04:28] <spiv> Sometime in the next day (probably the next few hours?) it should get mirrored.
[04:29] <glatzor> spiv: so my changes will always have a lag of some hours?
[04:31] <spiv> glatzor: at the moment, yes :(
[04:31] <spiv> glatzor: we're working on making that much better
[04:32] <glatzor> better than nothing. thanks
[04:32] <spiv> glatzor: You're welcome, glad I could help.
[04:32] <glatzor> and thanks for the hint with the the ssh config
[04:43] <sabdf1> Happy Worldwide Soyuz Appreciation Day, everybody
[04:51] <ruffneck> is there already 5.x ?
[05:32] <kiko> hey BjornT 
[05:33] <kiko> you know the mark_task thing you use in database/bug.py?
[05:33] <kiko> I want to use it for Person
[05:33] <kiko> where do I put it and what should I name it?
[05:33] <carlos> see you later
[05:44] <kiko> SteveA, ping?
[05:54] <kiko> lifeless, ping?
[05:59] <SteveA> hi kiko
[05:59] <SteveA> wassup?
[05:59] <kiko> you got hatemail
[05:59] <kiko> but see my q above to BjornT 
[05:59] <SteveA> salgado: ping
[05:59] <kiko> on the phone
[06:01] <SteveA> kiko: answer to mark_task is that we don't need it
[06:01] <kiko> oh
[06:01] <SteveA> there's a standard zope api for this now
[06:01] <SteveA> i'll find it, 2 secs
[06:01] <kiko> yay!
[06:02] <BjornT> kiko, SteveA: alsoProvides
[06:03] <SteveA> indeed
[06:03] <SteveA>  from zope.interface import alsoProvides
[06:09] <kiko> I love you guys
[06:09] <kiko> let me use that nonsense now
[06:12] <lifeless> kiko: hi
[06:12] <lifeless> whats up?
[06:16] <kiko> lifeless, need a script run on production, but hang on until I finish this phone call.
[06:17] <SteveA> kiko: you have lovemail
[06:17] <lifeless> kiko: I'm leaving Marks in 3 minutes.
[06:17] <lifeless> (not joking, we have a hard deadline to vacate)
[06:17] <kiko> lifeless, where are you going?
[06:18] <lifeless> kiko: I will check in from the hotel.
[06:18] <kiko> ok fine
[06:18] <kiko> will expect you
[06:28] <SteveA> salgado: around?
[06:28] <kiko> SteveA, he'll be back in a moment
[06:29] <SteveA> cool, i'll grab a cup of tea
[06:35] <salgado> SteveA, yo
[06:37] <SteveA> salgado: can we do a voice call?
[06:38] <salgado> SteveA, sure. skype or phone?
[06:38] <SteveA> skype please
[06:46] <mdz> kiko-fud: morning
[06:48] <SteveA> good morning mdz
[06:49] <SteveA> how are you?
[06:53] <lifeless> kiko-fud: hi
[06:56] <mdz> SteveA: I am well, and yourself?
[06:57] <SteveA> radiant, sir.  radiant!
[06:57] <lifeless> mdz: morning!
[06:57] <lifeless> mdz: are you still in London ?
[07:00] <lifeless> kiko-fud: I need to go soon. What is it you need?
[07:00] <lifeless> SteveA: if you are on the phone to salgado, please have salgado ping kiko physically.
[07:00] <SteveA> i am
[07:01] <salgado> lifeless, are you going to be around for a few more minutes
[07:01] <SteveA> lifeless: kiko is out of the office at lunch
[07:01] <lifeless> salgado: only fore a few more
[07:01] <lifeless> 10-25 tops
[07:01] <lifeless> erm
[07:01] <lifeless> 10-15
[07:01] <mdz> lifeless: I am not
[07:03] <SteveA> lifeless: i can use my production access to do this thing for salgado later
[07:04] <salgado> lifeless, okay, we (me, kiko and SteveA) are going to sort it out later
[07:04] <lifeless> SteveA: great, no problem then.
[07:04] <SteveA> in stereo
[07:04] <salgado> lifeless, thanks for pinging me
[07:04] <SteveA> enjoy your evening
[07:04] <lifeless> will do :)
[07:07] <lifeless> ok, I should go. tchau
[08:38] <zerokarmaleft> how can i look at the changelog history for a package?
[08:39] <kiko> zerokarmaleft, normally looking at /distros/ubuntu/+source/packagename
[08:39] <kiko> oh, the changelog? sorry I missed that
[08:39] <kiko> look at a specific version
[08:39] <kiko> IIRC it includes a link
[08:44] <zerokarmaleft> well, i'm looking for the first kernel that applied the prism54_softmac patch
[08:48] <zerokarmaleft> a paginated view of the changelog texts like packages.debian.org would be really nice
[08:48] <zerokarmaleft> one page of changelogs for the last 25 revisions or something
[09:06] <zerokarmaleft> kiko, i don't see any changelog information on specific versions unless i d/l the diff
[09:07] <kiko> hmmm.
[09:08] <zerokarmaleft> do i need maintainer permissions or something?
[09:08] <kiko> zerokarmaleft, what package are you looking at?
[09:09] <zerokarmaleft> linux-source-2.6.15
[09:09] <kiko> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/linux-source-2.6.15
[09:09] <kiko> zerokarmaleft, click on Change Log
[09:10] <kiko> oh
[09:10] <kiko> that's no good
[09:11] <zerokarmaleft> there is no Change Log link
[09:11] <kiko> there is on the LHS
[09:11] <kiko> but it is hidden
[09:11] <kiko> between HCT Status and View Builds
[09:12] <zerokarmaleft> superb
[09:12] <kiko> and yet not
[09:13] <zerokarmaleft> shall i file a bug?
[09:14] <highvoltage> hi there. is ubiquity open for translation in launchpad yet?
[09:14] <kiko> zerokarmaleft, good question. what you /want/ to see there is the full changelog, right? yeah, worth a bug
[09:14] <kiko> cprov, ping?
[09:14] <cprov> kiko: pong
[09:14] <zerokarmaleft> kiko: yes...ideally i'd like to be able to *search* changelogs
[09:15] <zerokarmaleft> but if i can get a laundry list of them on one page and use a browser to search the text that'd be fine also
[09:15] <kiko> cprov, do we need to the rollout to open edgy?
[09:15] <kiko> zerokarmaleft, okay, both are possible -- file the bug.
[09:16] <zerokarmaleft> right on
[09:16] <cprov> kiko: I can rollout only drescher, maybe rosetta guys need
[09:16] <kiko> ah, you're right.
[09:49] <kiko> cprov, so I have asked SteveA to book us tomorrow morning first thing to deal with opening edgy with stub
[09:49] <cprov> kiko: did you sort some time with mdz as well ?
[09:50] <kiko> cprov, yes.
[09:51] <cprov> kiko:fine, shoudl we start earlier ? 
[09:51] <kiko> cprov, well, the main thing I see is that the backup of the DB will take a while to do
[09:52] <cprov> kiko: backup could be started now, soyuz land is frozen
[09:52] <kiko> cprov, stub is not awake.
[09:52] <SteveA> i'll ask him to do one in the morning
[09:53] <cprov> kiko: not NOW, but as soon as stub wake up
[09:53] <kiko> cprov, that will take some 6h
[09:53] <SteveA> cprov: i'll be talking with stub about this in the morning.
[09:53] <kiko> (stub waking up)
[09:53] <cprov> kiko: best thing would be stop queu processing on dresher, to be sure nothing change
[09:53] <kiko> cprov, check with mdz what time is convenient for that.
[09:54] <cprov> kiko: ok
[09:54] <SteveA> kiko, cprov: i'm going into "make dinner" mode.  mail me if something comes up about this before tomorrow.
[09:55] <kiko> thanks.
[09:55] <kiko> ah SteveA 
[09:55] <SteveA> taip?
[09:55] <kiko> SteveA, proposed sprint dates the revenge r=stevea?
[09:56] <cprov> SteveA: okay, thanks
[10:47] <kiko> salgado, do you have time for some DB cleanup review?
[10:47] <salgado> db cleanup?
[10:47] <kiko> removing XXXs basically
[10:47] <kiko> and making it go faster
[10:47] <kiko> good stuff!
[10:48] <kiko> https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/filemWoGWY.html
[10:55] <salgado> kiko,  is this alsoProvides() thing something new in zope3.2?
[10:55] <kiko> apparently, salgado 
[10:55] <kiko> BjornT and SteveA endorse its use
[10:56] <kiko> and the tests don't fail
[10:56] <kiko> so...
[10:58] <salgado> is there a test for BugTracker.watches? (I remember somebody saying that the orderBy doesn't work on a MultipleJoin)
[10:59] <kiko> a) there is a test in bugwatch.txt and b) I fixed that bug last week, remember?
[11:00] <salgado> last week? I barely remember things that happened yesterday
[11:00] <kiko> time to cut down on the dope
[11:20] <SteveA> bradb: hi
[11:20] <SteveA> bradb: just saw that Nobody-assignment in the email interface landed in RF
[11:20] <SteveA> bradb: i suggest mailing stub cc launchpad list to get it into tomorrow's rollout
[11:43] <kiko> SteveA, it's not really really urgent if the UI works though