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| edneymatias | hi all! | 12:59 |
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| lionelp | Hi edneymatias | 12:59 |
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| systest | Is any version of the SPARC release of 6.06 available yet? | 07:01 |
| fabbione | systest: no, as the announce said, we are validating on the hw | 07:04 |
| fabbione | the hw arrived late, due to some custom issues | 07:04 |
| systest | saw that in the release notes. Thought an alpha or such might be available. | 07:04 |
| systest | Thanks for the info. | 07:04 |
| fabbione | oh yeah | 07:04 |
| fabbione | sure | 07:04 |
| fabbione | alpha and beta are around | 07:04 |
| fabbione | hmm no | 07:05 |
| fabbione | images haven't been published | 07:05 |
| fabbione | you can use netboot/netinstal | 07:05 |
| systest | ok, didn't see them at the mirrors so thought I would ask. | 07:06 |
| fabbione | they are not on cdimage either | 07:06 |
| fabbione | i *think* it's because they need to be relased later.. i don't remember all the black magic | 07:06 |
| systest | OK, thanks. I'll wait for the official release. | 07:07 |
| fabbione | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/installer-sparc/current/images/sparc64/netboot/2.6/ | 07:07 |
| fabbione | netboot image ^^ | 07:07 |
| fabbione | you can still test and report bugs | 07:07 |
| fabbione | that's always good | 07:07 |
| systest | Even better. Rather try out a new release than go to another, pointless mtg. Thanks. | 07:08 |
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| Vaske_Car | Just installed LAMP and SSH. Where can I see directory structure and how to access apache directory to upload site? | 10:28 |
| Vaske_Car | For example if I try to access /etc directory i can not... no such file or directory | 10:29 |
| gpd | Vaske_Car: this is a development channel - but your DocumentRoot is set to /var/www | 10:32 |
| gpd | you won't be able to [and shouldn't be able to] see /etc or any other part of the filesystem | 10:32 |
| Vaske_Car | gpd, just tell me what to do to be able to access server from FTP so i can continue.. | 10:42 |
| Vaske_Car | Like when you purchase hosting and you can access your root directory with FTP | 10:43 |
| infinity | Vaske_Car: Please take these sort of questions to #ubuntu... | 10:44 |
| infinity | Vaske_Car: This is a development channel, and generally doesn't take kindly to providing tech support. | 10:45 |
| infinity | Vaske_Car: The short answer is "install an FTP daemon". You don't have one by default. | 10:45 |
| Vaske_Car | Thanks! I am seeking for somebody who can answer me several question in 5 minutes rather than spend 10 days to find it online... Cya dream team :) | 10:46 |
| brmiller | so is this why ubuntu-server is oft quiet? developers only? #ubuntu is pretty noisy--with all them support questions! | 10:47 |
| infinity | brmiller: Yes, it's quiet intentionally, so that when we want to get some work done, we can. :) | 10:48 |
| infinity | The rest of the time, I'm happy to see the channel idle. There's no law against quiet IRC channels. | 10:49 |
| brmiller | congratulations--that makes perfect sense--I am a developer too (only not for ubuntu!) | 10:49 |
| brmiller | it's too bad there is only one "help me" channel, although that is not your problem. :) | 10:50 |
| brmiller | keep up the good work | 10:50 |
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| infinity | Vaske_Car: If I wasn't busy working and wanted to provide tech support, I'd be in #ubuntu, or responding to mailing list posts on ubuntu-users. | 10:58 |
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| gpd | [a community supported ubuntu-server support channel might be useful] | 11:31 |
| infinity | Perhaps. You're welcome to start one. | 11:33 |
| gpd | well my experience is that you are better off making the dev channel /more/ obscure and having the default be the support channel - however, that would require shuffling | 11:34 |
| gpd | I just started #ubuntu-server on oftc - i'll see how many ppl find it :O | 11:35 |
| infinity | I generally expect channels on freenode and oftc to have the same focus if they have the same name. | 11:37 |
| gpd | ubuntu-server-support ? | 11:38 |
| infinity | I'd be all for idling in #ubuntu-server-devel, but then I wouldn't be here (and a lot of other people wouldn't be), and I suspect folk would just come to the new channel to ask the same questions. <shrug> | 11:38 |
| gpd | probably right - so are you happy if we [non-devs] answer support questions in here... | 11:39 |
| infinity | We get so few support requests here, and most of them aren't really all that server-related anyway (OMG, I JUST INSTALLED THE SERVER CD AND I DON'T HAVE A GUI, HOW DO I GET A GUI?!), so I don't feel too bad sending them to #ubuntu. | 11:39 |
| gpd | true | 11:39 |
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| infinity | And the few really clued-up users woh ask random questions in here often find that they get answered anyway, because INTRIGUING questions that make me go research the answers are kinda fun. | 11:39 |
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| kermitX_ | infinity: how's this one: howto run mysql 5 & 4.1 on same box? | 11:43 |
| infinity | kermitX_: Don't. | 11:43 |
| infinity | kermitX_: If you think you need to, you're almost certainly wrong. | 11:43 |
| infinity | kermitX_: If you REALLY need to, then you've done enough research to know why, and therefore have also done enough research to know how. | 11:44 |
| kermitX_ | infinity: i have a couple scripts requires 5 and a couple that requires 4.1; in production environment they're on different servers, but i am looking at my test server. | 11:44 |
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| kermitX_ | infinity, best to run a bare install in a virtual machine of some sort to get the 'other' version? | 11:45 |
| infinity | kermitX_: I've never seen anything that will run on 4.1 that won't run on 5.x. | 11:45 |
| infinity | kermitX_: Virtualisation may be a bit extreme, chroots would be fine. | 11:45 |
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| infinity | kermitX_: Or, you can hack the 4.1 source to have it install to non-standard filesystem locations. | 11:45 |
| infinity | Either way, I'm still betting on the "you don't actually need both" scenario. | 11:46 |
| kermitX_ | infinity, it may be that i don't "need" both -- those are just the versions supported by the companies who made the scripts. | 11:49 |
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