[12:00] <coucho> hi
[12:00] <Seveas> mwe, that should say enough
[12:00] <Madpilot> Seveas, hadn't realized that tell had been made more polite - or that the bot censored it's own tells ;)
[12:00] <nootrope> Seveas: how does it wreck it? is this a religious issue?
[12:00] <froggi_> valberg, have you made sure that your sources.list only has the main ubuntu repositories ?
[12:00] <spikeb> that is great. crap is censored but buggar is not.
[12:00] <Seveas> nootrope, wreck as in making a reinstall neccessary
[12:00] <farous> Seveas: thanx for the new fglrx package. :)
[12:00] <spikeb> brb.
[12:00] <coucho> my audio and video aren't synched
[12:00] <nootrope> yike
[12:00] <[NP] Tangent> uhh
[12:01] <valberg> froggi_, yes i've used the one from something ubotu gave me
[12:01] <coucho> can someone help me with that?
[12:01] <Fujitsu> Is this Automatix we're talking about?
[12:01] <amphi> coucho: in what/
[12:01] <[NP] Tangent> I better run
[12:01] <[NP] Tangent> drumline practice
[12:01] <squid> then reading packet lists... done
[12:01] <valberg> !sources
[12:01] <nootrope> buggar is a typo
[12:01] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:01] <Seveas> Fujitsu, how'd you guess?
[12:01] <valberg> the last one
[12:01] <WildTangent> !automatix
[12:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is a piece of cr*p that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[12:01] <WildTangent> bah
[12:01] <sergiol> somebody did say to me:
[12:01] <sergiol> I think linux can have core generation disabled too
[12:01] <Fujitsu> Seveas, was that you who fixed the automatix factoid?
[12:01] <Seveas> yes
[12:01] <coucho> amphi: like on youtube or when i stream video from my other pc
[12:01] <amphi> sergiol: yes
[12:01] <Fujitsu> I note it was very pleasant up till last night.
[12:01] <Fujitsu> Thankyou!
[12:01] <sergiol> i want to have core generation enabled
[12:02] <froggi_> valberg, hmm sorry then I can't help
[12:02] <amphi> coucho: dunno about youtube, sorry
[12:02] <WildTangent> that factoid isnt true
[12:02] <valberg> froggi_, fair :)
[12:02] <coucho> kthnx
[12:02] <squid> mwe: -.- private messages are blocked
[12:02] <coucho> anyone else?
[12:02] <Fujitsu> I've had to fix a couple of completed screwed dpkg databases lately, which were causing Synaptic not to start, and apt-get/aptitude to complain bitterly and fail.
[12:02] <[NP] Tangent> WildTangent... isn't that the name of some company?
[12:02] <mwe> squid: you're not registered.
[12:02] <Fujitsu> All done by Automatix, of course.
[12:02] <kbrooks_> WildTangent: you wont be able to convince seveas that it isn't true
[12:02] <squid> i know
[12:02] <mwe> squid: /j #mwe instead
[12:02] <Bot_Builder> [NP] Tangent - yeah it is.  Little game applets i think
[12:02] <coucho> [NP] Tangent: yeah they make games
[12:02] <coucho> XD
[12:02] <Fujitsu> I fully agree with Seveas.
[12:02] <Brunno> i've just intalled nvidia drivers... how do i know if it's working ?
[12:02] <Seveas> WildTangent, that factoid is fully true
[12:03] <r4zz> thanks, mwe :))
[12:03] <Fujitsu> Brunno, type:
[12:03] <nootrope> i ran Automatix on breezy and it didn't hose the system...AFAIK
[12:03] <Fujitsu> glxinfo | grep direct
[12:03] <farous> Brunno: glxinfo
[12:03] <goo-man> can the dapper cd be booted into rescue mode? If I <esc> to text mode to get "boot:" prompt, "rescue" is not recognized.
[12:03] <Fujitsu> nootrope, it sometimes doesn't.
[12:03] <WildTangent> Fujitsu, unless youve tried the latest version, kindly stfu
[12:03] <kbrooks_> Fujitsu: ...
[12:03] <dxdemetriou> Can I resize the ext3 filesystem? I need this to copy my installed Ubuntu on other pc
[12:03] <valberg> now i can't do anything
[12:03] <Fujitsu> WildTangent, be pleasant please!
[12:03] <kbrooks_> WildTangent: language
[12:03] <WildTangent> Seveas, it is not
[12:03] <farous> Brunno: also glxgears -printfps
[12:03] <valberg> not even try to remove gatos
[12:03] <nootrope> Fujitsu: like russian roulette?
[12:03] <WildTangent> hasnt wrecked my system
[12:03] <Fujitsu> WildTangent, why?
[12:03] <Fujitsu> nootrope, yes.
[12:03] <WildTangent> hasnt wrecked anyones system
[12:03] <Seveas> WildTangent, LOL
[12:03] <Fujitsu> WildTangent, it doesn't /always/ kill systems. It often does, though.
[12:03] <Seveas> it wrecked hundreds if not thousands
[12:04] <WildTangent> older versions maybe
[12:04] <Fujitsu> It is, as nootrope said, Russian Roulette.
[12:04] <coucho> Seveas: maybe you're able to help me?
[12:04] <WildTangent> not the latest ones
[12:04] <Fujitsu> WildTangent, what's different?
[12:04] <WildTangent> automatix 6.x is great
[12:04] <Seveas> WildTangent, latest ones are just as crap
[12:04] <Brunno> it returned me a lot of errors...
[12:04] <kbrooks_> Seveas: shush.
[12:04] <Fujitsu> WildTangent, I can never trust Automatix, however it changes.
[12:04] <Seveas> now stop the automatix talk - this is not #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:04] <WildTangent> Seveas, i believe you are in breach of your CoC agreement
[12:04] <Fujitsu> WildTangent, where can I get a copy?
[12:04] <Selaiah> Can someone have a look at my Wlan Settings ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15150 My ralink rt2500 refuses to connect to my WPA2 (static ip) encrypted wlan.
[12:04] <Fujitsu> True, Seveas.
[12:04] <kbrooks_> WildTangent: shhh
[12:04] <frying_fish> I don't see the point in these automatix / easy ubuntu things
[12:04] <Fujitsu> WildTangent, !?
[12:04] <kbrooks_> WildTangent: do not tell him that
[12:05] <frying_fish> all it does is install certain programs right, which is much easier (and less likely to kill systems) if you do it yourself
[12:05] <WildTangent> kbrooks_, unlike the factoid, it is true
[12:05] <Brunno> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:05] <Brunno> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[12:05] <Fujitsu> frying_fish, EasyUbuntu is perfectly safe.
[12:05] <montbazin> hello guys
[12:05] <Seveas> WildTangent, stop lying or leave please
[12:05] <coucho> funkin hell
[12:05] <frying_fish> Fujitsu: maybe, but I bet it installs a load of random crap, and duplicates stuff that you don't need
[12:05] <Fujitsu> frying_fish, only if you tell it to.
[12:05] <nootrope> this place is a dictatorship
[12:05] <WildTangent> Seveas, if i am lying, then i wont stop until Ubotu does. for the record, i am not lying at all
[12:06] <Fujitsu> WildTangent, tell me. Where can I obtain a copy?
[12:06] <Bizzeh> why doesnt bison install yyparse in ubuntu?
[12:06] <frying_fish> Fujitsu: ok, as I say, I haven't bothered with them,  I find its much more likely to give you what you want if you install all stuff you want yourself
[12:06] <coucho> Can someone PLEASE help me with my audio/video problem?
[12:06] <Fujitsu> coucho, in what application?
[12:06] <frying_fish> coucho: whats the problem?
[12:06] <Spec[x] > Seveas: hahahaha
[12:06] <coucho> heheh
[12:07] <coucho> thnx
[12:07] <Spec[x] > Seveas: good work.
[12:07] <joebake1> Here's a very wierd thing.  /dev/fd/0  is a simlink to /dev/pts/0  on my new dapper drake box.
[12:07] <valberg> i need some serious help
[12:07] <valberg> upgrading to 6.06
[12:07] <Seveas> joebake1, that's normal
[12:07] <Fujitsu> joebake1, that's not odd.
[12:07] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell valberg about upgrade
[12:07] <|rt|> valberg: then you should talk to a shrink :)
[12:07] <coucho> Fujitsu/frying_fish: it's not synched, a.o. on youtube.com, and when i stream video from my other pc
[12:07] <goo-man> It's odd that it's normal, then.
[12:07] <montbazin> I am on Kubunt, how can I get all the files in any folder get displayed as text instead as icons ?
[12:07] <mwe> joebake1: that's normal
[12:07] <valberg> heh heh
[12:07] <|rt|> valberg: ah...serious help upgrading
[12:07] <valberg> |rt|, yeah
[12:08] <|rt|> valberg: that's something this channel cna probably help you with :)
[12:08] <frying_fish> coucho: probably video drivers are bad
[12:08] <valberg> |rt|, i've run apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:08] <sam__> heya guys
[12:08] <frying_fish> what video card / video driver are you running
[12:08] <joebake1> Thanks.  But I'm trying to write a floppy using dd  and it's telling me that I don't have permission although I'vedone sudo bash and have root permission.
[12:08] <Fujitsu> Hi, sam__.
[12:08] <coucho> frying_fish: fgrlx
[12:08] <valberg> and now it says that xserver-xorg-core is trying to replace a file that is also in gatos...
[12:08] <sam__> kan some one giv me a hand please...im useing dapper
[12:08] <mwe> joebake1: floppies are /dev/fd0 no slash before the 0
[12:08] <Fujitsu> joebake1, fd0, not fd/0
[12:08] <DBO> sam__, sure, what is your issue?
[12:08] <|rt|> valberg: I haven't updated a system so not sure I can help
[12:08] <frying_fish> coucho: what does glxinfo tell you
[12:08] <sam__> and i wana no how to download things from irc that i have found on www.ircspy.com
[12:08] <frying_fish> and fglrxinfo
[12:08] <valberg> |rt|, k
[12:08] <frying_fish> as it might not actually be using it.
[12:08] <farous> coucho: can you restate your prob again in detail
[12:09] <frying_fish> and give details
[12:09] <Nullified> Guys, Any flash player for 64 bit ubuntu
[12:09] <Seveas> Nullified, maybe gnash
[12:09] <Seveas> but no working flash player
[12:09] <frying_fish> Nullified: not yet
[12:09] <Fujitsu> Yet.
[12:09] <amphi> Bizzeh: bison generates yyparse
[12:09] <frying_fish> could just install it in a 32bit chroot
[12:09] <coucho> farous: my audio and video isn't synched, a.o. on youtube.com and when i'm watching a video from my other pc
[12:10] <frying_fish> a.o ??
[12:10] <sam__> thanx DBO if you could giv us a hand dwnloading things from IRC
[12:10] <valberg> can anyone help me remove gatos ? 'cause i'm in the middle of an upgrade and have to remove it... and when i try to run apt-get remove gatos it comes up with stupid dependencie problems... trying to fix that with apt-get -f install gets me back to the problem with gatos and xserver-xorg-core sharing the same file /usr/bin/scanpci
[12:10] <coucho> among others
[12:10] <|rt|> valberg: just curious what happens when you do the apt-get dist-upgrade....is it erroring out
[12:10] <ivank> i got mp3 to play but it wont play thm from me ipod
[12:10] <frying_fish> I still think its a driver issue for your graphics card, what card is it.
[12:10] <ivank> plugin error
[12:10] <coucho> frying_fish: x700 mobility radeon
[12:10] <chapium> what software?
[12:10] <farous> coucho: can not help with this one perhaps another can. but i doubt it is your drivers. more like the streaming prog you have need some setting
[12:10] <valberg> |rt|, yeah it says that xserver-xorg-core wants to replace /usr/bin/scanpci which is also a part of gatos and therefore can not do it...
[12:11] <sunnuntaivaihe> does upgrading from breezy to dapper change anything with apache?
[12:11] <DBO> sam__, actually Im not quite sure you are looking in the right place for your particular issue...
[12:11] <montbazin>  I am on Kubuntu, how can I get all the files in any folder get displayed as text instead as icons
[12:11] <Fujitsu> valberg, what errors to you get when you try to remove gatos?
[12:11] <Vaske_Car> GRUB loading stage 1.5 read error
[12:11] <frying_fish> coucho: pastebin the output of fglrxinfo
[12:11] <Seveas> sunnuntaivaihe, it will upgrade apache ;)
[12:11] <Vaske_Car> ??
[12:11] <Fujitsu> sunnuntaivaihe, not anything major.
[12:11] <sam__> where would u suggest i look? :S
[12:11] <bullium> hello all
[12:11] <chapium> montbazin: view?
[12:11] <Fujitsu> Hi, bullium.
[12:11] <Vaske_Car>  GRUB loading stage 1.5 read error right after installation ??????
[12:11] <KevLee> hello all - I'm a newbie - looking at configuring openLdap [slapd]  on my PC.  Silly I know but I can't edit etc/ldap/slapd.conf (I don't know vi and need su access so can't use the editor under applications ) - I could manage if there was edlin (I'm an old hat on DOS / WinDOZE)
[12:11] <I_FARTED> NIGGER!
[12:11] <I_FARTED> NIGGER!
[12:11] <I_FARTED> NIGGER!
[12:11] <I_FARTED> NIGGER!
[12:11] <I_FARTED> NIGGER!
[12:11] <I_FARTED> NIGGER!
[12:11] <DBO> !ops
[12:11] <LoRez> Warning: `I_FARTED' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kills/klines will be issued.
[12:11] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[12:11] <Fujitsu> Seveas...
[12:11] <sam__> i_farted get lost m8
[12:12] <DBO> thanks Madpilot
[12:12] <Fujitsu> Or Madpilot :)
[12:12] <Madpilot> np
[12:12] <treke> sunnuntaivaihe: My breezy->dapper upgrade didn't break anything for me. The biggest problem I ran into was the new mysqld.
[12:12] <coucho> frying_fish: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15152
[12:12] <valberg> Fujitsu, libfontenc1 depends on x11-common which doesn't get installed, and so is libxfont1
[12:12] <KevLee> can anyone help me ?
[12:12] <|rt|> valberg: I would try removing both packages and then reinstalling xserver-xorg-core
[12:12] <chapium> !helpme
[12:12] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[12:12] <KevLee> hello all - I'm a newbie - looking at configuring openLdap [slapd]  on my PC.  Silly I know but I can't edit etc/ldap/slapd.conf (I don't know vi and need su access so can't use the editor under applications ) - I could manage if there was edlin (I'm an old hat on DOS / WinDOZE)
[12:12] <Vaske_Car>  GRUB loading stage 1.5 read error, right after installation. Please HELP.
[12:12] <montbazin> chapium: I don't understand
[12:12] <treke> apache's configs were just fine, but bugzilla 2.18 just didn't like mysql5
[12:12] <bullium> has anyone had problems with the disk partitionor on 6.06?
[12:13] <DBO> KevLee, sudo gedit /etc/ldap/slapd.conf
[12:13] <sunnuntaivaihe> i was using an .htaccess to authenticate people who were trying to access the server
[12:13] <Fujitsu> bullium, desktop CD?
[12:13] <bullium> yeah
[12:13] <KevLee> cheers:)
[12:13] <chapium> montbazin: view menu?
[12:13] <sunnuntaivaihe> now, when i go to localhost, i enter the username and pass, and it doesnt seem to let me in
[12:13] <Fujitsu> bullium, yes, there are a number of issues.
[12:13] <chapium> montbazin: i'm not terribly familiar with konqueror
[12:13] <Amaranth> KevLee: open a terminal and run 'gksudo gedit'
[12:13] <Fujitsu> bullium, what is /your/ issue?
[12:13] <coucho> frying_fish: find something interesting yet?
[12:13] <valberg> |rt|, that just freaks out and shows alot of packages depending on xserver-xorg-core
[12:13] <Bizzeh> does anyone know what package i can get yyparse in?
[12:13] <bullium> well, it will not partition my drive LOL
[12:13] <mnl88> has anybody tried a logitech quickcam communicate STX in dapper, and what were the results? (i'm looking to by a webcam for ubuntu)
[12:13] <frying_fish> coucho: just loadin
[12:13] <bullium> sorry I couldn't help myself
[12:13] <coucho> k
[12:13] <valberg> ahh a complete removal then...
[12:14] <Fujitsu> !find yyparse
[12:14] <gimmulf> Hi, what software do i need to use the command "svn" ?
[12:14] <Fujitsu> gimmulf, subversion package.
[12:14] <frying_fish> coucho: your problem is that fglrx isn't actually being used
[12:14] <simonpca> gimmulf: svn
[12:14] <frying_fish> its using mesa
[12:14] <beewee> gimmulf, you need the package "subversion"
[12:14] <_nicolas> Can someone which kernel modules one must to load in order to use a USB sound card on Linux? Ubuntu doesn't detect my USB sound card automatically (though Gentoo did, so I know that it is supported)
[12:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'yyparse' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/sourcenav/share/demos/c++_demo/glish/fix_yyparse.sed) in universe/devel/sourcenav.
[12:14] <maddy> hm..
[12:14] <valberg> how do i remove something completely, with dependencies, using apt-get ?
[12:14] <gimmulf> beewee:  thanks
[12:14] <frying_fish> coucho: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:14] <coucho> frying_fish: how do i change that?
[12:14] <_nicolas> *Can someone tell me which
[12:14] <coucho> ah
[12:14] <bullium> Fujitsu, it will not auto partition...I also tried manual partitioning and that fails as well...
[12:14] <Fujitsu> bullium, with what error?
[12:14] <bullium> 1 sec I'll tel u
[12:15] <mnl88> any suggestions for a good webcam for dapper (to use w/ amsn)?
[12:15] <chapium> valberg: I think apt-get remove will automatically remove dependencies if they are not used by anything else
[12:15] <montbazin> chapium: Ok but this only works on the folder you're in, how can I configure "all" the folders to be in text ?
[12:15] <Fujitsu> chapium, it should.
[12:15] <amphi> chapium: it won't
[12:15] <_nicolas> Can someone tell me which kernel modules one must to load in order to use a USB sound card? Ubuntu doesn't detect my USB sound card automatically (though Gentoo did, so I know that it is supported)
[12:15] <valberg> chapium, doesn't look like it... i think
[12:15] <Shaezsche> could someone recommend codec pack for audio and video files that i can get through apt-get?
[12:15] <k31th> Evening
[12:15] <sunnuntaivaihe> mnl88: most logitech stuff should work
[12:15] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Shaezsche about restricted.
[12:15] <amphi> valberg: you can use deborphan to find orphaned lib packages and such
[12:16] <Fujitsu> Hi, k31th.
[12:16] <frying_fish> Shaezsche: apt-get install vlc
[12:16] <chapium> montbazin: konq should have some kind of profile saving that you can do
[12:16] <_nicolas> Shaezsche: deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:16] <mnl88> sunnutaivaihe: thanks
[12:16] <frying_fish> it will play all video types you want (except maybe WMV 9 - v3)
[12:16] <chapium> montbazin: its been a while, so I dont remember well, sorry :D
[12:16] <valberg> amphi, don't have that command...
[12:16] <Fujitsu> _nicolas, not everybody is using Breezy.
[12:16] <squid> mwe: plz look what i wrote in #mwe
[12:16] <nullified> Hi guys I have a folder in my trash can called woffle, Shows in the gui but its not deletable due to permissions, however it DOESNT show when you cd ~/.Trash any ideas
[12:16] <sunnuntaivaihe> does anyone know if the upgrade to apache from breezy to dapper will do anything to .htaccess
[12:16] <coucho> frying_fish: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15153
[12:16] <_nicolas> Fujitsu: Okay
[12:16] <Selaiah> Can someone have a look at my Wlan Settings ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15150 My ralink rt2500 refuses to connect to my WPA2 (static ip) encrypted wlan.
[12:16] <bullium> if I take the default "Resize IDE1 master..." the error is "Failed to create enough space for installation"
[12:16] <montbazin> chapium: never mind, thanx
[12:16] <k31th> wats crackign just installed ubuntu using that gui installed from liove cd... very tidy
[12:17] <sunnuntaivaihe> nullified: is it a problem if you restore it and then change permissions
[12:17] <valberg> and when i try to remove one of the packages depending on xserver-xorg-core then it says that xserver-xorg-core is depending on that package...
[12:17] <valberg> a evil circle...
[12:17] <chapium> k31th: cool!
[12:17] <valberg> an*
[12:17] <frying_fish> coucho: in your xorg.conf, where the line says "Driver "ati"" you want to change that to "Driver "fglrx""
[12:17] <coucho> k
[12:17] <nullified> sunnuntaivaihe: Cant restore it, Doesnt show in CLI and not enough permissions in the GUI
[12:17] <LoWhat> howdy
[12:17] <LoWhat> can anyone help me installing ATI 9800 on Dapper?
[12:17] <sergiol> core files not generated
[12:17] <frying_fish> coucho: at that point you must restart X, with something like ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:17] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell LoWhat about ati.
[12:17] <KevLee> please help
[12:18] <amphi> nullified: ls -a doesn't show it?
[12:18] <frying_fish> LoWhat: sure, whats the issue
[12:18] <montbazin> I have  machines connecte to a router, how can I see the IP address of each of the other computers connected to the router
[12:18] <KevLee> I'm trying to edit a file with sudo gedit
[12:18] <Bizzeh> does anyone know what package i can get yyparse in?
[12:18] <facefaceface> can someone do a test for me and tell me the result?
[12:18] <montbazin> is there any shell command ?
[12:18] <nullified> amphi: Nope
[12:18] <rambo3> -la has a nicer kick to it
[12:18] <facefaceface> I need ye to type sudo apt-key list
[12:18] <frying_fish> montbazin: either on the routers page
[12:18] <LoWhat> frying_fish, i'm trying to get rendering bat i can't
[12:18] <amphi> nullified: bizarre
[12:18] <KevLee> sudo gedit filename but this does not work
[12:18] <sunnuntaivaihe> nullified: have you tried cding to /.Trash and Sudo Restore or something of the like?
[12:18] <facefaceface> and tell me how many keys ye sees?
[12:18] <coucho> brb
[12:18] <frying_fish> montbazin: or nmap, and ping scan the local network
[12:19] <valberg> argh!
[12:19] <rambo3> !tell facefaceface about easesource
[12:19] <frying_fish> change DRI to on?
[12:19] <rambo3> !tell facefaceface about easysource
[12:19] <nullified> sunnuntaivaihe: I have not tried Sudo restore ...is it litearlly sudo restore and it restores it all
[12:19] <joebake1> montbazin:  ifconfig eth0 192.168.15.1 netmask 255.255.255.0   This might do the trick.
[12:19] <montbazin> frying_fish: I'll check
[12:19] <bullium> Fujitsu, If I choose to manually partition the error is "Error while creating New Partition #1, be aware that the failure to apply this operation could affect
[12:19] <frying_fish> hummn, I must remember to get a live cd and resize my root partition, need to make it smaller, it has about 5gb too much
[12:19] <frying_fish> and I coudl use that in /home
[12:19] <valberg> what the h*ll should i do? i can't turn of my computer before i fix this... it will be totally fucked up cuz i'm in the middle of a upgrade!
[12:20] <sunnuntaivaihe> nullified: i *believe* sudo restore 'filename' will restore it but dont take my word, i can look it up if you want
[12:20] <montbazin> joebake1: ifconfig only shows the IP of the machine where you are, but not the other connecte to the router
[12:20] <facefaceface> rambo3, that looks useful, but I would like to understand my problem as it stands, rather than trying another solution
[12:20] <chapium> what are you removing exactly?
[12:20] <frying_fish> valberg: do you have /home separate? if so, then get the cd and burn it, and then go about that route.
[12:20] <chapium> valberg, ^^
[12:20] <valberg> frying_fish, nope... i don't
[12:20] <frying_fish> montbazin: yeah, does the router have web access.
[12:20] <facefaceface> I appear to be missing a key, but sudo apt-key update don't do nuffin
[12:20] <LoWhat> frying_fish, DRI to on? where? how?
[12:21] <frying_fish> valberg: oh, suck
[12:21] <bullium> Fujitsu, n e ideas?
[12:21] <valberg> yeah...
[12:21] <DJ_Danni> HELO
[12:21] <DJ_Danni> HELP Mutch Tabole
[12:21] <valberg> isn't there a way to use dpkg or something to remove a package ?
[12:21] <frying_fish> LoWhat:
[12:21] <frying_fish> Section "DRI"
[12:21] <frying_fish>         Mode        0666
[12:21] <KevLee> HI all - I'm a newbie with a really easy problem, anyone wanna help#
[12:21] <Fujitsu> bullium, you may wish to use the Alternate CD.
[12:21] <valberg> i just want gatos to get out of my freaking way
[12:21] <Fujitsu> !justask
[12:21] <chapium> valberg, whats the issue?
[12:21] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[12:21] <Fujitsu> !is
[12:21] <ubotu> somebody said is was the country code for iceland
[12:21] <chapium> ah
[12:21] <frying_fish> KevLee: what exactly is the problem then.
[12:21] <newtuxman> i have installed a ubuntu box in the office, and it has decided it wants a certain IP, that is statically assigned to someone else in the office... how to i get it to stop grabbing that IP? and i thought if the router has that IP statically assigned, then how did this box get it in the first place?
[12:21] <DJ_Danni> Can you help me need it now
[12:21] <montbazin> frying_fish: yes it has a web access
[12:21] <bullium> does it fix the know partitioning problems?
[12:21] <Fujitsu> newtuxman, it would only use a static IP if you told it to.
[12:22] <newtuxman> i have installed a ubuntu box in the office, and it has decided it wants a certain IP, that is statically assigned to someone else in the office... how to i get it to stop grabbing that IP? and i thought if the router has that IP statically assigned, then how did this box get it in the first place?
[12:22] <coucho> frying_fish: i think it's using the ati driver now, but it's still not synched
[12:22] <amphi> DJ_Danni: what's up? ;)
[12:22] <frying_fish> montbazin: then it will probably tell you on there what the other computers IP's are
[12:22] <KevLee> need to sudo gedit etc/ldap/slapd.conf but this does not work !
[12:22] <valberg> chapium, xserver-xorg-core wants to overwrite a file that is also owned by gatos...
[12:22] <newtuxman> i've told it nothing, its what ever out of the box settings it comes with
[12:22] <bullium> Fujitsu,  does it fix the know partitioning problems?
[12:22] <chapium> hmm
[12:22] <Fujitsu> newtuxman, the router is being silly, then.
[12:22] <frying_fish> coucho: pastebin your current xorg.conf, and did you restart X after editing it?
[12:22] <Seveas> newtuxman, then your dhcp server is flaky
[12:22] <coucho> yeah i did
[12:22] <Fujitsu> bullium, no, but it doesn't make problems in the first place :)
[12:22] <DJ_Danni> Hey amphi when i try to start my gaim Messenger she Frosen and io cannoat do annythang. Whats Wrong?
[12:22] <frying_fish> KevLee: yeah, you missed a leading /  it should be sudo gedit /etc/ldap/slapd.conf
[12:23] <newtuxman> this doesnt help me... linux is smarter then stupid routers, how do i fix this?
[12:23] <amphi> DJ_Danni: dunno, don't use it here
[12:23] <newtuxman> moreover how can i tell linux i want it to use "THIS" ip?
[12:23] <amphi> newtuxman: ifconfig
[12:23] <chapium> valberg: this might not be the best way, but... you could apt-get remove gatos (taking the xserver with it, and then apt-get the xserver back
[12:23] <bullium> Fujitsu, is it an older release or what is the difference??
[12:23] <Fujitsu> newtuxman, tell your router manufacturer, but for now, set a static IP.
[12:23] <LoWhat> frying_fish, i've already have dri configured as you said
[12:23] <DJ_Danni> What do you mean
[12:23] <frying_fish> newtuxman: change the mac of the computer
[12:23] <newtuxman> i tried that, nothing in the --help told me how to
[12:23] <Fujitsu> bullium, it's the same release, but a text-based, more reliable installer.
[12:23] <DJ_Danni> ?
[12:23] <montbazin> frying_fish: yes the router can tell me, but I need a shell command in order to be able to write a script
[12:23] <newtuxman> the ifconfig
[12:23] <Fujitsu> frying_fish, ...?
[12:23] <frying_fish> LoWhat: oh ok, dunno then sorry.
[12:23] <bullium> oh ok, gotcha
[12:23] <coucho> frying_fish: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15154
[12:23] <amphi> newtuxman: or you can configure dhclient to request a specific ip addr IIRC
[12:23] <DJ_Danni> Shut you noat help pebole in Linux?
[12:23] <frying_fish> montbazin: use nmap
[12:23] <valberg> chapium, and when i try to apt-get remove gatos i get two dependency problems with libfontenc1 and libxfont1 depending on xserver-xorg-core
[12:23] <DJ_Danni> Ubuntu?
[12:23] <LoWhat> frying_fish, thanks
[12:24] <bullium> fujitsu, oh ok gotcha...
[12:24] <newtuxman> amphi how do i do that?
[12:24] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell bullium about alternate
[12:24] <eugman> Can anyone give me a link to a site showing screenshots of the steps of the graphical installer? I'd like to get an idea of the steps and the choices.
[12:24] <montbazin> frying_fish: nmap says: command not found
[12:24] <frying_fish> montbazin: yeah, you need to install it first.......
[12:24] <amphi> newtuxman: man 5 dhclient.conf - ISTR seeing something about that in there
[12:24] <frying_fish> apt-get install nmap
[12:24] <lampshade> Is there a way to remove some of the search engine choices from the Deskbar??  I don't really need a CCommons search, etc.  I've never ever used it
[12:25] <montbazin> frying_fish: where do I get it ?
[12:25] <valberg> chapium, so i've tried doing that...
[12:25] <bullium> Fujitsu, thats what I was looking for in the first place...;)
[12:25] <frying_fish> its in the repositories....... so sudo apt-get install nmap
[12:25] <tony14764> Is anyone good with tvtime?
[12:25] <Fujitsu> bullium, aha.
[12:25] <KevLee> how do you edit a conf file that only root has access ?
[12:25] <frying_fish> KevLee: by being root.
[12:26] <Fujitsu> KevLee, sudo gedit /path/to/the/file
[12:26] <chapium> valberg: oh :(
[12:26] <montbazin> frying_fish:  I'll try this, thanx
[12:26] <frying_fish> or using sudo (assuming your sudo permissions allow that)
[12:26] <Seveas> KevLee, sudo gedit /path/to/file
[12:26] <frying_fish> montbazin: you could also get nmapfe to find out its commands easier.
[12:26] <bullium> Fujitsu, although I'll have to say the gui will be an added bonus once the bugs are worked out...
[12:26] <squiddle> Fujitsu  you shuuld not start X11 apps wirh sudo, it freaks gdm out
[12:26] <amphi> KevLee: try gksudo gedit foo
[12:27] <yonkeltron> anyone have a dell inspiron 6000?
[12:27] <lampshade> yes
[12:27] <Seveas> amphi, gksudo and gedit aren't friends unfortunately
[12:27] <coucho> frying_fish: find anything?
[12:27] <lampshade> yonkeltron: I do
[12:27] <tony14764> Can someone help me with a video problem?
[12:27] <amphi> Seveas: oh dear ;) I don't use gedit myself
[12:27] <frying_fish> coucho: sorry missed it
[12:27] <Seveas> amphi, 'sudo vim' 
[12:27] <frying_fish> checking now
[12:27] <yonkeltron> lampshade: using dapper?
[12:27] <coucho> k
[12:27] <amphi> Seveas: indeed ;)
[12:27] <valberg> chapium, trying to use synaptic to do it...
[12:27] <frying_fish> coucho: it looks right
[12:27] <valberg> chapium, my last option
[12:27] <frying_fish> try rebooting
[12:28] <coucho> k
[12:28] <valberg> chapium, but now it removes alot of stuff
[12:28] <bullium> man bittorrent downloads are screaming fast...
[12:28] <yonkeltron> lampshade: does suspend work for you?
[12:29] <valberg> bullium, depends on where you get the torrent files from ;)
[12:29] <UKMatt> if I install a .deb, will I be able to remove it later on?
[12:29] <lampshade> yonkeltron: Ummm I believe so, I've actually only tried HIbernate and that worked
[12:29] <lnostdal> UKMatt, yes
[12:29] <lampshade> yonkeltron: I've used that several times already -- hibernate
[12:29] <yonkeltron> lampshade: hibernate worked for me too. took ages but it worked.
[12:29] <UKMatt> lnostdal, whats involved with that
[12:29] <lnostdal> UKMatt, dpkg -r package_name
[12:30] <yonkeltron> lampshade: could you save everything and try suspend? if it doesn't work, you may need to hard reboot.
[12:30] <bullium> valberg, well I d/l the original ISO in 1hr and I'm dling the alternate at 290kB/s right now :)
[12:30] <kbrooks_> lnostdal: dont give him CLI
[12:30] <maddy> i get buffer i/o error on device hdc logical disk block ......
[12:30] <valberg> lnostdal, or use synaptic ;)
[12:30] <maddy> when booting cd i burned
[12:30] <klerfayt> glxgears doesn't show fps
[12:30] <UKMatt> lnostdal, what do you mean the package name
[12:30] <bullium> ok now 310kB/s LOL
[12:30] <XiCillin> when burning as ISO in 5.10 i can just right click the iso and select 'write to cd' right?
[12:30] <kbrooks_> lnostdal: ths is dapper.
[12:30] <valberg> bullium, exaclty
[12:30] <kbrooks_> UKMatt: the part before the _
[12:30] <yonkeltron> lampshade: before hard power down, try switching to a console
[12:30] <valberg> bullium, exactly*
[12:30] <gumpish_> Why is the build of Firefox that's included in Ubuntu not branded with the official Firefox icon? (and can't be updated using the built-in capability)?
[12:30] <kbrooks_> packagename_version_arch
[12:30] <XKpe> hi
[12:30] <bullium> valberg, yeah I know...its so much faster than a bogged down server is all I'm saying
[12:31] <valberg> ;)
[12:31] <liam> hello, can anyone here give me a hand with installing a program not found in a package? i am not new to linux just new to ubuntu and sudo commands
[12:31] <lnostdal> UKMatt, i think the package (the deb) will show up when you search for it in synaptic also  (can anyone confirm this?)
[12:31] <altprsona> how do i remove the pcimia , brltty, and pcimia-utils from my bootup process
[12:31] <lampshade> yonkeltron: I switched over to a console, ctrl+alt+F7 fine
[12:31] <Ron_o> liam, there's a great website for that.
[12:31] <UKMatt> nah i dont think it does
[12:31] <Ron_o> wait.
[12:31] <chapium> !tell klerfayt about glxgears
[12:31] <Mosi> anyone know Yaboot? I'm trying to make a custom boot and shutdown splash
[12:32] <UKMatt> http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=12
[12:32] <Ron_o> because installing a package should be the same for all Debian systems.
[12:32] <XKpe> has anyone installed Xgl in ubuntu?
[12:32] <liam> Ron_o, I said without a package, it is just a file that needs configuring
[12:32] <lampshade> Is there a new definitive source on doing XGL with ATI?  The forums have lots of posts from when Dapper was Beta, multiple sources, etc, and I was wondering if there is an OFFICIAL one somewhere
[12:32] <lnostdal> UKMatt, i've installed Opera as a .deb here .. and it shows up in Synaptic when i search
[12:32] <frying_fish> liam: read the README that comes with the file.
[12:32] <yonkeltron> lampshade: i meant you should do that if suspend doesn't work before hard powering down
[12:32] <maddy> i get buffer i/o error on device hdc logical disk block ......is it normal?
[12:32] <liam> frying_fish: i have
[12:32] <kbrosnan> gumpish all software in ubuntu is managed by synaptec package manager and there are some other issues you can google firefox icon debian to read more
[12:33] <frying_fish> right... so whats the problem
[12:33] <UKMatt> lnostdal, oh wow, well maybe they did add it
[12:33] <frying_fish> read the INSTALL as well, that usually has everything you need
[12:33] <Ron_o> http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing.html
[12:33] <Ron_o> great intro..
[12:33] <Ron_o> !install
[12:33] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[12:33] <lampshade> yonkeltron: I'll keep it in mind, but I don't suspend too often.  usually just hibernate and that's why I don't even know if it works right now.  The weird thing is, the keys stopped working for me, but they used to work.  Like Fn+hibernate and stuff like that
[12:33] <facefaceface> can someone do a test for me and tell me the result?
[12:33] <facefaceface> I need ye to type sudo apt-key list
[12:33] <facefaceface> and tell me how many keys ye sees?
[12:34] <ubuntu> hi! i have a installer crash
[12:34] <rambo3> anyone know why i only get sound in flash player if i run firefox in sudo ?
[12:34] <lampshade> yonkeltron: they worked in the past, but not this time.  Weird.
[12:34] <coucho> frying_fish: didn't work
[12:34] <ddonky> what's the command to test 3d drivers? '3dgears' or something like that.
[12:34] <mwe> XKpe: I installed. removed it again is it was not stable though. other gl programs wouldn't work with compiz either
[12:34] <Anusien2> No Dapper DVDs?
[12:34] <andi5> facefaceface: 2
[12:34] <lampshade> rambo3: install alsa-oss problem vanishes
[12:34] <Fujitsu> Just the two, facefaceface.
[12:34] <ubuntu> can i post my error
[12:34] <ubuntu> ?
[12:34] <Fujitsu> ubuntu, on pastebin.
[12:34] <yonkeltron> lampshade: fn+f1 never worked but fn+esc still works fine for stuff
[12:34] <Ron_o> ubuntu... just reinstall.
[12:34] <Fujitsu> !paste
[12:34] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:34] <frying_fish> coucho: oh, well what is the output of fglrxinfo now
[12:34] <rambo3> lampshade, i think i have that
[12:34] <liam> whenever i run a sudo ./Makefile , it gives me a problem, what is the proper sudo operator to go with that
[12:34] <facefaceface> andi5, ty Fujitsu ty
[12:34] <Fujitsu> Ron_o, no.
[12:34] <jdmpike> is there a channel for CSS help?
[12:34] <Ron_o> mine crashed too.
[12:34] <Ron_o> no?
[12:34] <andi5> facefaceface: what do you see?
[12:34] <frying_fish> jdmpike: #css ?
[12:35] <jdmpike> I need to talk webdesign with some folks
[12:35] <rambo3> had to cinfigure alsa my self
[12:35] <Ron_o> sorry. That's what I did.
[12:35] <lampshade> yonkeltron: check for sure,  alsa-oss I had no sound in Flash just like that.  Installed that one package.  bam worked.
[12:35] <XKpe> mwe: kk tkx
[12:35] <facefaceface> I get the following error running sudo apt-get install evince
[12:35] <chapium> jdmpike: take your best guess at what it might be called ;-)
[12:35] <facefaceface> andi5, I see two too
[12:35] <coucho> frying_fish: is it ok to paste here? it's 4 lines
[12:35] <yonkeltron> lampshade: what worked?
[12:35] <kermitX_> Anusien2: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/release/    use a torrent.
[12:35] <facefaceface> but the error is this...
[12:35] <andi5> facefaceface: perfect :D
[12:35] <mwe> XKpe: it was impressive but I don't think it's really mature yet
[12:35] <keleus> i made a booboo
[12:35] <lampshade> yonkeltron: the Fn+hibernate didn't work for me on Breezy, but totally worked with Dapper
[12:35] <rambo3> lampshade, yes i have that installed allready
[12:35] <frying_fish> coucho: use pastebin
[12:35] <yonkeltron> lampshade: just the opposite with me
[12:35] <frying_fish> easier to look at
[12:35] <chapium> keleus: Nelson -> haha!
[12:35] <facefaceface> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! evince
[12:35] <keleus> I modified my /etc/hosts and removed my hostname from the loopback (and forgot to put my actual IP to my hostname)
[12:35] <lampshade> yonkeltron: oh and that alsa-oss message was not for you whoops haha
[12:35] <keleus> and now SUDO doesn't work.
[12:35] <liam> What would be the proper sudo operator for installing a file? -i?
[12:36] <facefaceface> andi5, and I don't know why that package can't be authenticatd
[12:36] <keleus> sudo: unable to lookup epicenter via gethostbyname()
[12:36] <frying_fish> keleus: reboot in rescue mode
[12:36] <Fujitsu> keleus, you can't remove that entry! It's necessary!
[12:36] <lampshade> rambo3: Yeah I had a no sound in flash issue then just installed that one alsa-oss package with Synaptic
[12:36] <Fujitsu> keleus, reboot in recovery mode and replace it.
[12:36] <frying_fish> then you can fix it.
[12:36] <XKpe> mwe: how did u install it? by hand? or deb packages?
[12:36] <keleus> THATS why you don't use SUDO (and use su)....
[12:36] <coucho> frying_fish: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15155
[12:36] <keleus> :)
[12:36] <mwe> XKpe: I followed the wiki
[12:36] <frying_fish> keleus: or its why you have both set up
[12:36] <rambo3> :P good for you then ,
[12:36] <keleus> Fujitsu: a wine program WILL NOT work unless my hostname is under my IP and not 127.0.0.1
[12:36] <XKpe> mwe: wich one?
[12:37] <mwe> !tell XKpe about xgl
[12:37] <Fujitsu> keleus, well, you're stuffed then/.
[12:37] <ubuntu> please look my crash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15156
[12:37] <keleus> but i can fix it under rescue mode right?
[12:37] <frying_fish> coucho: that seems to all be in order.
[12:37] <mwe> XKpe: see /msg from ubotu
[12:37] <XKpe> mwe: ty
[12:37] <chapium> I have a weird error that happens in 6.06 (did it in 5.10 too):  When I reboot (as opposed to booting cold), my linux kernel wont uncompress due to a crc error.  Whats with this?
[12:37] <frying_fish> keleus: yes.
[12:37] <coucho> frying_fish: so now what?
[12:37] <bullium> Fujitsu, thanks for your input I'm d/l now...we'll see if I have better luck with the alternate version...
[12:37] <keleus> if i set root a password will that break sudo?
[12:37] <Fujitsu> No problem, bullium.
[12:37] <frying_fish> keleus: just add it, don't delete it.
[12:37] <frying_fish> keleus: no
[12:37] <keleus> add it?
[12:37] <Fujitsu> keleus, it won't. But it's not recommended.
[12:37] <frying_fish> you can use sudo and su then
[12:37] <facefaceface> andi5, perhaps I just need to reboot... but I think that evince (from http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages) should be authentic
[12:37] <keleus> what do you mean?
[12:37] <bullium> Fujitsu, have a good night...L8r
[12:38] <Fujitsu> chapium, your kernel is corrupt.
[12:38] <frying_fish> Fujitsu: you mean having a root account isn't recommended?
[12:38] <navarone> anyone having or had problem with screen going black at login? This happened not long after getting video drivers working and using xfce...I logged out to change sessions to gnome and screen blacked out and couldn't change.
[12:38] <frying_fish> I would go with having 2 passwords to break is a better idea.
[12:38] <Fujitsu> frying_fish, having a password set on root is not recommended.
[12:38] <keleus> If i never use it (and only use sudo) except for emergencies does it really matter?
[12:38] <andi5> facefaceface: hm.... try another server and md5sum ... but i really do not know how this signing stuff works with ubuntu :)
[12:38] <frying_fish> keleus: not really
[12:38] <boogaloo> guys ! dapper is faster !
[12:38] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15156 ...
[12:38] <coucho> nvm
[12:38] <simonpca> ++
[12:38] <Fujitsu> ubuntu, can you please post the two files listed at the bottom of that error?
[12:38] <facefaceface> andi5, me either...
[12:38] <sorush20> what panorama picture generation tool are there that I can use?
[12:38] <facefaceface> thanks for the help though
[12:38] <keleus> thanks, ill go fix my system now.
[12:39] <keleus> cant believe i did that.
[12:39] <frying_fish> I have root enabled, and have sudo set up to require my root password (this way since the way dapper uses gksu [ not the proper way]  I can still do stuff properly)
[12:39] <Fujitsu> keleus, hehe.
[12:39] <boogaloo> firefox 1.5 is much faster too
[12:39] <keleus> quick question before i go...
[12:39] <andi5> facefaceface: good luck :) ....i just entered what you told me to ;-)
[12:39] <Fujitsu> Fire away, keleus.
[12:39] <keleus> can i have a hostname mapped to more than one IP on /etc/hosts?
[12:39] <frying_fish> anyway guys, its time for me to leave.
[12:39] <chapium> Fujitsu: how do i uncorrupt it?  Is it corrupt now?  I'm using it just fine
[12:39] <Fujitsu> chapium, strange.
[12:39] <facefaceface> heh... I wondered if everyone else had like 5 keys or something
[12:39] <andi5> keleus: whaa.. why that?
[12:39] <chapium> Fujitsu: this has been happening for months.  I just stopped rebooting
[12:40] <Eamon> Hey is it possible (easy) to run amaroK on ubuntu (not kubuntu)?
[12:40] <jjazz> keleus: What are you trying to accomplish?
[12:40] <Fujitsu> chapium, how did you boot into it if it failed to uncompress!?
[12:40] <Fujitsu> chapium, interesting.
[12:40] <keleus> andi5: crappy windows app through wine reports 127.0.0.1 to a master server because my hostname is mapped to it.
[12:40] <pike_> Eamon: yes just install it normally
[12:40] <Eamon> What about K3B?
[12:40] <chapium> Fujitsu: I thought it might be something odd with my hardware, but i used to have slackware installed on it and it never gave the crc when I rebooted
[12:40] <sybariten> guys guys gals... i have a Q ...   how do i, through apt prefereably, find out 1.) which version of IRSSI i have ...  and 2.)  which version of IRSSI i can install from the repository
[12:40] <pike_> Eamon: same thing the dep will be installed
[12:40] <ubuntu> fujitsu: this 2 files are blanks
[12:40] <facefaceface> hi, when I run nmap 192.168.1.0/24 I get back the answer that an ssh port is open, but on which IP?
[12:41] <Fujitsu> ubuntu, I doubt it.
[12:41] <BlackSolaris> How can I upgrade to Dapper from Breezy?
[12:41] <keleus> ill figure it out... thanks guys
[12:41] <jjazz> keleus: I don't really see how that works, but good luck
[12:41] <chapium> !tell balcksolaris about upgrade
[12:41] <keleus> BlackSolaris: yes, theres an automated thingy for that (used it myself) but i forget the name
[12:41] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell BlackSolaris about upgrade
[12:41] <chapium> BlackSolaris: oh, i missread that
[12:41] <keleus> jjazz: like i said, poorly done program :)
[12:42] <burzum> is there something like www.gentoo-portage.com for ubuntu packages?
[12:42] <ubuntu> Fujitsu... i don't look anything
[12:42] <BlackSolaris> thanks guys!
[12:42] <jjazz> very
[12:42] <jaramillo> is there a way to get the firefox-flash-plugin under ubuntu64 ?
[12:42] <Eamon> pike_: Also, My home partition is on a different partition. Can I install ubuntu and use that partition as my home folder (with all correct permissions etc)?
[12:42] <jjazz> burzum: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:42] <blanky> hey guys is there a command line command to check my sound card?
[12:42] <lnostdal> burzum, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[12:42] <jenda> What's the firefox plugin for viewing .svg s ?
[12:42] <blanky> Man I wished there was still an #ubuntu+1 channel, full of smart people, not anymore :(
[12:43] <pike_> Eamon: yes very easily just select that partition and choose type as "home" during install
[12:43] <andi5> jenda: 1.5 does it natively, i think
[12:43] <Fujitsu> jenda, it's built into 1.5
[12:43] <chapium> blanky :'(
[12:43] <hyperstream> hey i just installed windows vista just to have a little look(its a POS :P way overdone performance sucks, not recommended) anyhow upon doing this its removed my grub boot manager, is there anyway i can restore this or fix it up so i can boot into ubuntu once again?
[12:43] <blanky> chapium, yep :|
[12:43] <valberg> there i go! gatos is out of my life!
[12:43] <blanky> !tell hyperstream about recovergrub
[12:43] <chapium> valberg: what did you do?
[12:43] <valberg> just used the remove all with dependencies function in synaptic
[12:43] <hyperstream> thanks
[12:43] <jenda> andi-, Fujitsu thanks
[12:43] <Eamon> blanky: Re flash on 64bit: install the 32bit nspluginviewer and nspluginscan and all works perfectly with the 32bit flash packages from macromedia
[12:43] <blanky> So guys, is there a command to check what sound card I'm using
[12:44] <valberg> chapium, couldn't find out how to do that in cmd apt-get
[12:44] <blanky> Eamon, um...
[12:44] <chapium> valberg: whichever too works best :D
[12:44] <navarone> blanky try "lspci | grep sound"
[12:44] <blanky> navarone, thanks
[12:44] <lnostdal> blanky, or grep audio .. works here
[12:44] <navarone> anyone have issues with blank screen at login?
[12:45] <Eamon> sorry jaramillo not blanky: Re flash on 64bit: install the 32bit nspluginviewer and nspluginscan and all works perfectly with the 32bit flash packages from macromedia
[12:45] <ompaul_> hyperstream, read the message from the bot
[12:45] <chapium> navarone: it did that too me once i think
[12:45] <valberg> chapium, it did indeed remove the xserver-xorg-core packages and all it dependencies... but they're in place now... running the apt-get dist-upgrade with style now (untill the next error occurs that is :P)
[12:45] <blanky> thanks lnostdal and navarone
[12:45] <blarion> How do I use NVAGP instead of AGPGART?
[12:45] <ubuntu> Fujitsu i find 2 files and now?
[12:45] <navarone> chapium how did you resolve?
[12:45] <blarion> I heard it was faster
[12:45] <Fujitsu> ubuntu, post them to pastebin.
[12:45] <chapium> navarone: i just rebooted, i think it was a fluke
[12:45] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell blarion about nvidia
[12:46] <chapium> navarone: you can always try safemode too
[12:46] <Eamon> Does the new ubuntu have a nice installer like anaconda?
[12:46] <boogaloo> when i upgraded to dapper, i had to reinstall the ati driver
[12:46] <myrddin> I'm trying to build a 3rd party app that says it needs the XFree86 Development package.  Which package(s) in synaptic do I need for that?
[12:46] <bullrage> Hey all, I installed captive-ntfs but now no longer require its use. I did this from source. How do I remove it?
[12:46] <zenithsglint> could someone give me a link or somethin for enabling the repos for dapper?
[12:47] <andi5> myrddin: fully -> xorg-dev
[12:47] <navarone> chapium...it did that too me and I noticed the login sound still so i keyed in login blind and it worked...however now for some reason monitor receives no signal and cannot log in
[12:47] <jvai> oi peeps
[12:47] <sunnuntaivaihe> how does one upgrade from apache 1.3 to apache 2
[12:47] <jvai> wassup
[12:47] <Eamon> zenithsglint: just add the repo addresses to /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:47] <Fujitsu> sunnuntaivaihe, install the apache2 package.
[12:47] <navarone> And i just got nvidia driver working properly
[12:47] <Iriespekt> knows anybody a german ubuntu channel?
[12:47] <Fujitsu> !de
[12:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[12:47] <sunnuntaivaihe> Fujitsu: will this override apache 1.3?
[12:47] <sunnuntaivaihe> or will i have to uninstall it
[12:47] <Fujitsu> sunnuntaivaihe, I think so.
[12:48] <Fujitsu> sunnuntaivaihe, I think the packages conflict.
[12:48] <sunnuntaivaihe> i think so too
[12:48] <bullrage> Hey all, I installed captive-ntfs but now no longer require its use. I compiled this from source. How do I remove it?
[12:48] <sunnuntaivaihe> how do i get rid of apache 1.3
[12:48] <navarone> chapium...long story short I can't get into gui so i am stuck using irssi in ttty...lol
[12:48] <jaramillo> Eamon: under what name is nspluginviewer/scan inside synaptic? or they aren't there at all?
[12:48] <hyperstream> so dapper is the new stable ?
[12:48] <bullrage> or is removing the captive-ntfs lines from fstab sufficient?
[12:48] <chapium> navarone: oh...
[12:48] <myrddin> andi5: thanks
[12:48] <chapium> navarone: do you get any error messages from X?
[12:48] <tobbz> I have some a 'modprobe', some 'iwpriv' and a 'dhclient' command that i want to run each time i start ubuntu.. where do i put them?
[12:48] <Eamon> jamarillo: I'm a n00b sorry
[12:48] <chapium> navarone: does startx work?
[12:49] <navarone> chapium: not since new driver...
[12:49] <Eamon> So does the new ubuntu (6.06) have a nice installer like fc5's anaconda?
[12:49] <zenithsglint> Eamon: ok, I just don't want to add any repos that will mess anything up, is there a wiki that tells you which repos to add?
[12:49] <blarion> I really need help with nvagp...
[12:49] <Fujitsu> sunnuntaivaihe, that's my point. When you install apache2, apache will be removed.
[12:49] <Fujitsu> Eamon, the desktop installer.
[12:49] <myrddin> Eamon: never used anaconda.  the installer for ubuntu was pretty clean, though
[12:50] <chapium> navarone: anything funky in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:50] <navarone> chapium if I try startx or restart gdm the monitor light goes yellow from green as if sleeping or hiberanting...<?>
[12:50] <lee_> I have a question, can I print wireless to a Apple Bonjour Printer?
[12:50] <UzzaDead> afternoon all, can anyone tell me quickly how to change the login screen resolution for KDM?
[12:50] <Subhuman> tobbz, in /etc/ there is a load of folders called /rc4.d ad shit, one of them is ran on boot, i forget which one, but it in there
[12:50] <Mosi> Does anyone know how to customize a boot splash image?
[12:50] <UzzaDead> Mosi, grub?
[12:50] <navarone> chapium I will log in another terminal and take a look
[12:51] <blarion> I put option "nvagp" "1" and now my agps all disabled or something
[12:51] <chapium> Mosi: do you mean the pixely brown ubuntu thing?
[12:51] <Mosi> UzzaDead: Yaboot. but i thought it was the kernel that takes care of it. the boot loader just passes the 'splash' parameter to the kernel, right?
[12:51] <Mosi> chapium: yeah
[12:51] <UzzaDead> Mosi thats mac right?
[12:51] <spikeb> yaboot :)
[12:51] <Mosi> UzzaDead: yeah
[12:51] <UzzaDead> ah sorry not much experience with yaboot all my macs are ancient requiring bootx :D
[12:51] <jvai> hey how does macchanger work? ..
[12:52] <tobbz> subhuman> thanks.. i'll look into to that.
[12:52] <jvai> ooh neva mind.. the man pages
[12:52] <keleus> Is it bad to remove the package "ubuntu-desktop"? it has bittorrent, which i do not use (i use azureus) and the package happily installed a world-listenign daemon.... the tracker.
[12:52] <keleus> and i want to remove the tracker.
[12:52] <Subhuman> tobbz, i thin k its rc3.d, but google "linux runlevels" to find info on it.
[12:52] <boogaloo> is the "xgl thing" included in dapper ?
[12:52] <keleus> but removing bittorrent makes apt want to remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:52] <andi5> keleus: no, just make sure that you do not remove packages you want to keep :)
[12:52] <UzzaDead> boogaloo, not that i've seen but i can be wrong :)
[12:52] <Subhuman> keleus, ubuntu-deskop is a meta package, its safe to remove.
[12:52] <sunnuntaivaihe> Iriespekt: #ubuntu-de
[12:52] <DBO> keleus, you can just shut down the tracker...
[12:53] <chapium> mosi, i'm not sure if this applies to mac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:53] <Mosi> chapium: i'll check it out, thanks
[12:53] <UzzaDead> boogaloo, i just took a look and it doesnt appear to be installed
[12:53] <keleus> DBO: i could, but i can also remove software i won't use... and it might come back on an upgrade.
[12:53] <lee_> Anyone have experience with Apple's bonjour?
[12:53] <Fujitsu> keleus, ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage.
[12:53] <keleus> Subhuman: what's it do? it won't hurt me somehow with upgrades?
[12:53] <boogaloo> ok UzzaDead
[12:54] <DBO> keleus, i dont think an upgrade is going to throw the symlinks back in there...
[12:54] <Selaiah> Can someone have a look at my Wlan Settings ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15150 My ralink rt2500 refuses to connect to my WPA2 (static ip) encrypted wlan.
[12:54] <UzzaDead> so any help with changing my login screen resolution?
[12:54] <navarone> chapium no obvious errors
[12:54] <DBO> keleus, not have the meta package would only hurt you if they added a NEW package (completely new) to the default install
[12:54] <chapium> navarone: any (EE)'s or (WW)s ?
[12:54] <keleus> DBO: and if i haven't missed it sine i won't miss it afterwards, really.
[12:55] <keleus> so be it! begone, ubuntu-desktop!
[12:55] <Weirdbro_> I'm having a problem when I follow the Wiki directions on setting up Lamp with PhpMyAdmin
[12:55] <Eamon> will there be much of a performance boost choosing the 64bit version of 6,06 for my amd64 compy?
[12:55] <andi5> boost? no
[12:55] <UzzaDead> Eamon im running it and its pretty quick..
[12:55] <boogaloo> is this possible to have some kind of transparency on my ubuntu menu ?
[12:55] <Weirdbro_> Because it is just testing, I'm doing it in Desktop Ubuntu
[12:55] <DBO> boogaloo, with Xgl yes... otherwise not really
[12:55] <UzzaDead> only thinks my processor is 1004.xxmhz tho
[12:55] <kbrooks_> automatix!
[12:56] <boogaloo> sob
[12:56] <Eamon> andi5: I'll use the 32bit version then. It'll be easier for compatibility etc.
[12:56] <Marineboy> Im trying to upgrade to Dapper, when I go in to the package manager and try to mount the cd rom i get this E: Failed to mount the cdrom
[12:56] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[12:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is a piece of cr*p that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[12:56] <keleus> heh, im not even using the azureus package (im running it from my home directory from a tarball :P damn out of date packages)
[12:56] <UzzaDead> !soul
[12:56] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, UzzaDead
[12:56] <DBO> hahaha, I like the new one
[12:56] <Weirdbro_> But I follow the directions in the Wiki, PhpMyAdmin complains that I need to set the blowfish secret, even though I have
[12:56] <andi5> Eamon: i do not think that a lot of applications will actually profit of 64 bits, but i am no expert :)
[12:56] <lee_> Automatix is bad?
[12:56] <viksa> this is my first time installing ubuntu and i want to configure my TV card can somebody help me
[12:56] <Fujitsu> lee_, yes.
[12:56] <DBO> lee_, VERY
[12:56] <lee_> Why so?
[12:56] <navarone> chapium I found a WW...something about nvidia no size information in crt sid?
[12:57] <Fujitsu> lee_, EXTREMELY bad.
[12:57] <DBO> lee_, it does some very unsafe things, it doesnt make backups and so on
[12:57] <Fujitsu> lee_, it has broken many many many systems.
[12:57] <Mosi> just out of curiosity, what is automatix and what does it do?
[12:57] <lee_> Oh................ joy
[12:57] <navarone> chapium...perhaps I have resolution set for incompatible resolution for monitor...?
[12:57] <lee_> I ran it this morning... no problems....................yet lol
[12:57] <Marineboy> DBO: Im trying to upgrade to Dapper, when I go in to the package manager and try to mount the cd rom i get this E: Failed to mount the cdrom
[12:57] <whyvas_> anyone else having problems with azureus?
[12:57] <chapium> navarone: maybe, is it an old monitor?
[12:57] <whyvas_> mine doesn't load well
[12:58] <navarone> chapium...yeah...bout 7 yrs at least...crt
[12:58] <whyvas_> right from synaptic, dapper
[12:58] <keleus> whyvas_:  nope, but im not using the azureus package, im running the one from SF.NET
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> lee_: You might still be safe.  Usually when it breaks something it's right away, or on next boot for sure.  Beyond that, just be thankful and walk away from today wiser.
[12:58] <lee_> I only have one problem with azureus- the error messages in the lower right cannot be closed
[12:58] <whyvas_> i tried that one too
[12:58] <keleus> whyvas_: and its a local user home install, not system-wide
[12:58] <chapium> navarone: if you can try to force it to something lower in the xorg.conf
[12:58] <pike_> viksa: im prob not going to be much help but what kind of card is it?  at what point are you having a problem
[12:58] <navarone> chapium...I think max res...is 1024x768
[12:58] <Mosi> navarone: i jsut reinstalled this morning and had to reconfigure my monitor. did you try dpkg-reconfiguring xserver-xorg?
[12:58] <lee_> tony: okay, that's good I've rebooted twice. :0
[12:58] <chapium> navarone: if it looks like X is acually running you can try ctrl+alt+ +
[12:58] <keleus> whyvas_: what java do you have? I have blackdawn/blackdown/blackwhateveritis from synaptics
[12:58] <whyvas_> do your mini popups windows dissapear when you click on hide?
[12:58] <navarone> chapium I will try...thanks
[12:58] <DBO> Marineboy, so you want to upgrade from a disc?  did you enable the cdrom source in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:59] <navarone> okay
[12:59] <keleus> whyvas_: i have NO problems.
[12:59] <Marineboy> DBO: no i dont have it on a disc.
[12:59] <DBO> Marineboy, then why are you trying to mount a CD for an upgrade again?
[12:59] <whyvas_> keleus, the popups dissapears when you click on hide?
[12:59] <keleus> which popups?
[12:59] <keleus> you might have something that i disable by matter of course
[12:59] <Marineboy> DBO: it says in the wiki.... I can just skip that part ?
[01:00] <Mosi> navarone: you can manually reconfigure all your monitor's resolution and refresh rate settings from ncurses, want me to find the command for you?
[01:00] <DBO> Marineboy, link me to whatever page you are looking at
[01:00] <Marineboy> DBO: nevermind, I found out it would help if i read!
[01:00] <navarone> Mosi...lemme take a look at xorg.conf first and see if unusable resolutions are there
[01:00] <whyvas_> keleus, i remember that java package but it doesn't seem to be coming up in my synaptic
[01:00] <keleus> Marineboy: best way to add a CDROM to your apt repos is "sudo apt-cdrom add" in a terminal
[01:00] <viksa> pike_:  i'm trying dmesg | grep bttv and everything it's ok the card is listed when i try to modprobe bttv card=96 tuner=5 (this is my code for my card and tuner) when i put this notghing happens
[01:00] <whyvas_> i have all the repos setup i think
[01:00] <_harm> i cant seem to be able to get openoffice to work
[01:01] <keleus> whyvas_: hold on a second... (btw do you have universe and multiverse enabled?)
[01:01] <_harm> it worked fine
[01:01] <_harm> but now its wont open files
[01:01] <zenithsglint_> are easyubuntu and dapper working well together?
[01:01] <kbrooks_> zenithsglint: should be
[01:01] <zenithsglint_> thnks kbrooks.
[01:01] <whyvas_> keleus, yeah, on a fresh install i delete all the repos, then I add each one enabling all the options in each
[01:01] <chapium> zenithsglint_: I've heard it has some issues
[01:01] <whyvas_> would that grab everything?
[01:01] <viksa> pike_: https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/BTTV
[01:01] <zenithsglint_> chapium really. hmm.
[01:01] <keleus> whyvas_: good man :) im checking for the package name...
[01:02] <keleus> whyvas_: are you breezy/hoary/dapper?
[01:02] <chapium> zenithtsglint_, just a rumor
[01:02] <whyvas_> dapper
[01:02] <whyvas_> i searched for black
[01:02] <lee_> How do you compile to the source code of a program? Or make it usable in ubuntu ?
[01:03] <DBO> !compile
[01:03] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[01:03] <keleus> whyvas_: package name is: j2re1.4
[01:03] <mwe> lee_: you don't compile to source
[01:03] <Fujitsu> lee_, which program?
[01:03] <lee_> I mean, from source
[01:03] <Fujitsu> mwe, you do if there's no package.
[01:03] <keleus> whyvas_: that MIGHT help
[01:03] <lee_> thanks DBU
[01:03] <mwe> Fujitsu: huh?
[01:03] <jace> Hello, I am really new to Linux and I have a couple question: 1) I want to disable my onboard audio and enable my soundblaster audigy, they are both detected in device manager but I don't how to control them
[01:03] <lee_> Fujitsu: Bonjour from apple
[01:03] <mwe> Fujitsu: from source maybe
[01:03] <Fujitsu> mwe, there isn't a package for everything.
[01:03] <DBO> lee_, heh, good luck with that...
[01:03] <czer323> I'm having issues with Firefox 1.5.0.3 quitting unexpectedly.  No error messages.  Happens every time when I try to view my gmail inbox.  I tried a new user account and it has the same issue, so I know it's not preference related.  Is there a log that would be created taht I could check?
[01:03] <mwe> Fujitsu: I know
[01:03] <pike_> viksa: if you lsmod does the driver show up? it loads? planning on installing and using xawtv for viewing?
[01:04] <keleus> jace: i know what you NEED to do, i just don't know how.
[01:04] <lee_> DBO: yeah, I really need it though I have to print school related stuff =/
[01:04] <mwe> Fujitsu: but I have never compiled anything to source. I've compiled loads of things from source though
[01:04] <navarone> chapium Mosi I am gonna restart gdm and see what happens...I dleted all 1280x resolutions from Monitor section...brb
[01:04] <keleus> jace: you need to blacklist the kernel module that runs your onboard sound card from autoloading
[01:04] <jace> ok
[01:04] <DBO> lee_, why does that require bonjour again?
[01:04] <keleus> jace: at least that will point you in the right direction
[01:04] <whyvas_> keleus, I had the sun packages, lets see if it makes a diffrence...
[01:04] <Fujitsu> mwe, oh. I didn't notice that :)
[01:05] <abou> I'm trying to configure the samba server on my linux, I went to system>administratio>networking, in the general tab the document (settingUpSamba) Talks about ticking "Enable windows networking" I can't see such things
[01:05] <Drasla> hey.   I want to install something that'll give me access to my calendar and e-mail as a web page.  I was looking into eGroupware.  Does anyone know of a better option?
[01:05] <viksa> pike_: ls mod shows the driver
[01:05] <lee_> DBO: My printer is connect to an Apple Extreme router
[01:05] <keleus> abou: i reccomend SWAT
[01:05] <Jaak_> does myth make it possible to watch tv from another pc
[01:05] <keleus> keleus: just make sure you remove it when your happy :) don't need that HTTP server hanging out for the rest of the world to abuse
[01:05] <Managu> Jaak_: Myth can be set up to allow that, yes
[01:05] <DBO> lee_, there should be a way to set that up without bonjour
[01:05] <Drasla> Jaak_: yeah.  look for "mythtv frontend".  a lot of tutorials are out there,
[01:05] <jbzy3000> how do i install ndiswrapper when i dont have a build directory in my lib kernel
[01:06] <Jaak_> is there a pc frontend version
[01:06] <lee_> DBO: I've look in the ubuntu printer settings for it on the network-even typed in the address
[01:06] <Managu> jbzy3000: get "module-assistant"; it can help
[01:06] <riddlebox> I am trying to install a module(ivtv) and I am told to copy a file to the hotplug firmware directory can someone help me with that?
[01:06] <abou> keleus, thanks, cheking it now
[01:06] <Drasla> does anyone know about the various groupware apps out there?
[01:06] <keleus> abou: its a web-based samba configuration utility... btw
[01:06] <jbzy3000> is thta apt-get module-assitant
[01:06] <Stormx2> hey folks, how are you? Any breaking news?
[01:07] <_harm> how do i starter openoffice write from terminal?
[01:07] <_harm> start*
[01:07] <navarone> chapium Mosi...taht worked the cahrm...thanks for the advice
[01:07] <andi5> can somebody tell me how to clean up apt-proxys cache directories? mine seems never to be cleaned :(
[01:07] <jace> OK, and the the other problem I am having is I am using and ATI video card and I want to use the fglrx drivers.  I downloaded them through Synaptic but what do I change to make them the primary drivers?
[01:07] <Stormx2> _harm: Ill check
[01:07] <navarone> chapium...i got it sorted
[01:07] <Managu> riddlebox: for me (on Dapper) /lib/firmware was the appropriate location
[01:07] <chapium> navarone: cool
[01:07] <chapium> good
[01:07] <pike_> viksa: gotta go but try installing xawtv or searching ubuntuforums.org for your specific card good luck
[01:07] <_jason> andi5: type oo and then press tab, you should see the command
[01:07] <`Boo`> good afternoon everyone :)
[01:07] <Stormx2> _harm: ooffice -writer
[01:07] <czer323> I'm having issues with Firefox 1.5.0.3 quitting unexpectedly.  No error messages.  Happens every time when I try to view my gmail inbox.  I tried a new user account and it has the same issue, so I know it's not preference related.  Is there a log that would be created that I could check?
[01:07] <riddlebox> Managu, thanks
[01:07] <nadia007> anyone gotten ubuntu to work nicely with a dell docking station?
[01:08] <mwe> or oowriter
[01:08] <navarone> chapium...must've happened when i restored old xorg.conf
[01:08] <andi5> _jason: ?
[01:08] <viksa> pike_: thanks anyway
[01:08] <_harm> stormx2 thx
[01:08] <_jason> andi5: yes ignore me, I'm stuck on mirc... sorry for the wrong name
[01:08] <navarone> well...that saves me a reinstall...<s>
[01:08] <abou> keleus, how do I start the server?
[01:08] <_harm> LAMe
[01:08] <_harm> stormx2 can u help me out ... it wont load
[01:08] <jbzy3000> where so i get module assistant
[01:09] <Stormx2> _harm: What happens?
[01:09] <abou> keleus, nothing listening on port 901 now...!
[01:09] <andi5> _jason: no problem.... but now you have to help me ;-) ... if you know apt-proxy :)
[01:09] <Jaak_> abou, install windows, and use IIS
[01:09] <lee_> DBO: Do you have any ideas of what I could try?
[01:09] <jace> Jaak: check out http://revision3.com/systm they have a video tutorial on how to set up a myth box and how to set it to a PC front end or even a modded Xbox front end
[01:09] <Managu> jbzy3000: "sudo apt-get install module-assistant && module-assistant prepare"
[01:09] <Jaak_> good night
[01:09] <Stormx2> Jaak_: Don't swear.
[01:09] <_harm> Stormx2 http://pastebin.com/761008
[01:09] <Jaak_> lol
[01:09] <Stormx2> Jaak_: The w word is strictly forbidden ;)
[01:09] <DBO> lee_, not really... my job really never gets into printers =P  In fact, come to think of it, I dont think Ive ever done printers with linux
[01:09] <Jaak_> jace, thanks
[01:10] <DBO> (beyond local of course)
[01:10] <Stormx2> _harm: Hold on
[01:10] <keleus> abou: tell me what this says: ls /etc/* | grep swat
[01:10] <_jason> andi5: I would if I knew how, good luck
[01:10] <keleus> abou: in a terminal... btw
[01:10] <andi5> retry: can somebody tell me how to clean up apt-proxys cache directories? mine seems never to be cleaned
[01:10] <lee_> DBO: oh ok heh
[01:10] <amphi> andi5: apt-get clean
[01:10] <navarone> Stormx ubuntu rocks and rocks go thru windows...<s>
[01:10] <tim__> when i run gksudo "update-manager" why do I always get the error "Failed to run update manager as root: Child terminated with status 1"
[01:10] <andi5> amphi: apt-_proxy_
[01:11] <amphi> andi5: oops, sorry
[01:11] <abou> keleus, no output
[01:11] <keleus> where does ubuntu keep the daemon start/stop scripts?
[01:11] <abou> keleus, netsta -an | grep 901 neither
[01:11] <keleus> ooooh wait... i think it uses inet.d
[01:11] <abou> keleus, yes inet.d
[01:12] <lee_> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:12] <DBO> keleus, they are int /etc/init.d
[01:12] <keleus> abou: you need to edit that file and allow swat to run, and then make sure the inet daemon is restarted
[01:12] <andi5> keleus: /etc/init.d
[01:12] <lee_> whooops wrong window =/
[01:12] <czer323> I'm having issues with Firefox 1.5.0.3 quitting unexpectedly.  No error messages.  Happens every time when I try to view my gmail inbox.  I tried a new user account and it has the same issue, so I know it's not preference related.  Is there a log that would be created that I could check?
[01:12] <keleus> abou: its in there now, but should be commented out
[01:12] <abou> where is this file located?
[01:12] <andi5> the other thingie is inetd, a daemon itself
[01:12] <abou> keleus, where is inet.d located?
[01:12] <keleus> abou: not sure, don't have that stuff on my system ATM
[01:12] <lee_> czer323: Check your firefox extensions
[01:12] <_jason> czer323: have you tried starting it from a terminal?
[01:12] <Managu> czer323: tried running firefox from wihin a terminal window?
[01:12] <keleus> abou: "locate inet.d" :D
[01:13] <czer323> I can try, but i did a new user, which has no default extensions.  I'll try terminal.
[01:13] <keleus> abou: /etc/inetd.conf
[01:13] <abou> keleus, there is init.d but not inet.d
[01:14] <tim__> I am having a problem running update manager. i run gksudo "update-manager" and I always get the error "Failed to run update manager as root: Child terminated with status 1" Any ideas?
[01:14] <mwe> czer323: it happened all the time for me too. 1.5.0.4 fixed it
[01:14] <DBO> abou, what are you trying to do?
[01:14] <ssnitily> i know it's a known issue but can anyone help me with ubuntu and the resolution for a dell inspiron 1100?
[01:14] <Stormx2> _harm: i have no idea
[01:14] <Stormx2> _harm: Why are you launching open office from command line anyway?
[01:14] <mwe> czer323: it didn't even bring up the quality feedback agent
[01:14] <DBO> mwe, I call that a feature =P
[01:15] <AngryElf> does mySQL have a devel package, and if so, what's its name?
[01:15] <_harm> stormx2 to see why its not working :P splash screen loads and then nothing > terminal has direct outpit
[01:15] <CyberScript32> I need the packages, nvidia-kernel e xserver-common, for my ubuntu
[01:15] <keleus> abou: did you get my last message?
[01:15] <czer323> lee_, _jason, Managu> It says that it failed to load a shared library for acrobat 7.  nppdf.so: Undefined Symbol: XtCalloc.  Any suggestions?
[01:15] <mwe> DBO: heh yeah. no errors on the console either or anything. just dead, show desktop. period though :|
[01:15] <CyberScript32> My ubuntu don't have internet acess
[01:15] <FarrisG> Anybody really familiar with logrotate? I have been keeping 52 weeks worth of logs for most of my apps, but I want to change that to something less. I have far too many log directories to go delete all of the old gz log files for those weeks beyond my new threshold. Is there a way to automatically remove these? logrotate doesn't appear to do it by default, and just leaves those old files to rot.
[01:15] <CyberScript32> Who can download and send me?
[01:16] <keleus> CyberScript32: send you what?
[01:16] <mwe> czer323: that shouldn't crash it like that
[01:16] <andi5> CyberScript32: download from packages.ubuntu.com
[01:16] <mwe> czer323: and why would that happen on gmail?
[01:16] <dracflamloc> hi folks. is there a way to background the "configuring network interfaces" part of bootup?
[01:16] <CyberScript32> [keleus] : xserver-common and nvidia-kernel for I install the nvidia driver
[01:16] <Stormx2> _harm: Perhaps reinstall?
[01:16] <fent> has anyone had any issues with the 6.06 installer not able to boot after install?
[01:17] <CyberScript32> [andi5] : I'll search
[01:17] <keleus> CyberScript32: that wouldn't ordinarily be an issue but the dependencies are numerous
[01:17] <_jason> czer323: I also don't see why it would cause it to crash, but mozilla-acroread seems to be the only package that contains that file.  You may want to check if that is installed and whether the file exists
[01:17] <Managu> fent: I had problems during beta, and have heard about some problems with Grub.  What are your symptoms?
[01:17] <_harm> Stormx2 trying that now
[01:17] <abou> keleus, /etc/inetd.conf contains : netbios-ssn commented out, and swat (not commented)
[01:18] <Stormx2> swat?
[01:18] <Stormx2> o.O
[01:18] <DBO> Stormx2, yeah, they took over his box in a hostile takedown
[01:18] <keleus> abou: ok, execute "sudo /etc/init.d/inet restart" i think. not sure what the NAME of the script is...
[01:18] <Stormx2> oh ok
[01:18] <andi5> Stormx2: do not ask too many questions
[01:18] <Stormx2> keleus: Doesn't reboot usually work?
[01:18] <abou> keleus, sure
[01:19] <skybox> what media player plays "rmvb" in linux?
[01:19] <abou> DBO, originally I was trying to setup samba, then keleus suggested I use SWAT, then I'm now trying to run swat
[01:19] <guestie> is the flash plugin supposed to work on firefox ubuntu?
[01:19] <Stormx2> andi5: OK mister :(
[01:19] <keleus> Stormx2: yes, but thats annoying and not needed :)
[01:19] <czer323> _jason, mwe> Trying to reinstall Adobe using Automatix.  I believe that's how i did it the first time.
[01:19] <viksa> !mp3
[01:19] <Stormx2> skybox: rmvb = remove visual basics?
[01:19] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:19] <mwe> czer323: 1.5.0.3 used to crash all the time for me too. 1.5.0.4 fixed it
[01:19] <CyberScript32> thanks for the colaboration
[01:19] <DBO> abou, whats so hard about samba? =P  I can walk you through it in 5 minutes
[01:19] <Managu> !automatix
[01:19] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Managu
[01:19] <Seveas> sigh
[01:19] <slackern> !usplash
[01:19] <mwe> !automatix
[01:19] <ubotu> somebody said usplash was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:19] <andi5> Stormx2: i mean, behave ;-) ... you never know
[01:19] <tim__> Can anybody tell me why I can never execute any apps through gksudo. it always fails with "Child terminated with 1 status"
[01:19] <DBO> Seveas?
[01:19] <CyberScript32> !nvidia
[01:19] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[01:19] <skybox> stormx2, nah realmedia format
[01:19] <Seveas> DBO, people keep removing the automatix factoid
[01:20] <ssnitily> Can someone here help me with a laptop issue?
[01:20] <abou> DBO, I'll be thank full
[01:20] <DBO> Seveas, why?
[01:20] <Stormx2> Seveas: Why?
[01:20] <Stormx2> OMG SNAP
[01:20] <DBO> jinx
[01:20] <Seveas> because they are fools I guess
[01:20] <andi5> ssnitily: they have to be opened before you can use them ;-)
[01:20] <fent> Managu: well i've installed to an sata drive and upon reboot it calls "non system disk error"
[01:20] <DBO> Seveas, cant you lock it?
[01:20] <Stormx2> Seveas I pwnd a noob
[01:20] <keleus> YES! wine works for diablo 2,... but:
[01:20] <ssnitily> andi5: funny
[01:20] <keleus> my gnome panels won't go away :)
[01:20] <Seveas> DBO, unfortunately not
[01:20] <tsume> :( is there a lib-sasl2-modules-sql package which isn't mysql related?
[01:20] <Stormx2> This deskbar thing is neat
[01:20] <Stormx2> by the way
[01:20] <keleus> suppose i can play it in a window :)
[01:20] <tsume> I only like Postgres :)
[01:21] <Seveas> cafuego_, poke
[01:21] <ChakRa> guys how to release/renew ip in ibuntu?
 abou, whats so hard about samba? =P  I can walk you through it in 5 minutes
[01:21] <skybox> omg
[01:21] <camilita> how can i ejecute a tar.gz?
[01:21] <DBO> abou, have you installed samba server yet?
[01:21] <Stormx2> My google search has stopped working. And I'd really like to be able to have custom directory to search in (my music dir)
[01:21] <skybox> it looks like linux can NOT play rmvb at all
[01:21] <Stormx2> But other than that
[01:21] <abou> yes it's running
[01:21] <Stormx2> neat.
[01:21] <mwe> Seveas: I confused. I typed !automatix in the room and ubotu replied in private "you already said what automatix automatix have said.". what's that?
[01:21] <andi5> Stormx2: hm... somehow beagle slowed everything down here, how does it work for you?
[01:21] <keleus> YEEESS
[01:21] <Managu> fent: mmm.  Do any funny partitioning?
[01:21] <keleus> playing a windows game in ubuntu
[01:21] <fent> Managu: i dont think so
[01:21] <Seveas> mwe, bug in the bot I guess
[01:21] <_jason> ubotu: tell camilita about tar.gz
[01:21] <mwe> yeah
[01:21] <tsume> !automatrix
[01:21] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tsume
[01:21] <keleus> something inherantly appealing about it
[01:21] <Jaak_> what can be the reason that i can't connect to my mythtv db?
[01:21] <Stormx2> andi5: Hmm?
[01:21] <tsume> hrm
[01:22] <tsume> !warez
[01:22] <DBO> abou, ok, put your /etc/samba/smb.conf on pastebin for me
[01:22] <tsume> :P
[01:22] <ubotu> tsume: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:22] <fent> Managu: i made a (100mb /boot) (2gb swap) (40gb /)
[01:22] <mwe> tsume: spell it right
[01:22] <jvai> keleus how?
[01:22] <mwe> tsume: it's automatix
[01:22] <jvai> thru WINE?
[01:22] <tsume> mwe: oh!
[01:22] <tsume> !automatix
[01:22] <ubotu> well, automatix is a piece of cr*p that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[01:22] <tsume> lmao
[01:22] <mwe> ?!
[01:22] <keleus> jvai: latest version of wine
[01:22] <ChakRa> lies
[01:22] <tsume> how funny
[01:22] <andi5> Stormx2: you mean deskbar, the panel applet right? among other things it lets you enter beagle searches (which only work when beagle searches your hard disk and keeps regular updates)
[01:22] <Fujitsu> ChakRa, how is it a lie!?
[01:22] <DBO> ChakRa, not a lie, thats pretty much the truth
[01:22] <keleus> jvai: i have the wine repositories enabled (so i always have the latest)
[01:22] <Stormx2> andi5: Beagle is that neat search app?
[01:22] <jvai> shyt, can i compile it on hoary/
[01:23] <mwe> tsume: it replied me "you already said what automatix automatix have said." :)
[01:23] <keleus> jvai: details on the debian section of the wine download page (find it on winehq.org)
[01:23] <Managu> fent: (a bit short on knowledge about this funky new SATA technology)  The message you're reporting suggests that you're not booting from the proper hard drive, or that there's no master boot record on the hard drive you're trying to boot fom
[01:23] <jvai> ok
[01:23] <tsume> damn it. I hate recompiling stuff because some guy is a mysql baby
[01:23] <ChakRa> i mean its ok :/
[01:23] <Stormx2> andi5: I'ma install it now.
[01:23] <andi5> Stormx2: beagle is the architecture, yep... consisting of beagled (the daemon) and the gnome integration, i think
[01:23] <basbryan> here's a fun one.  when i boot i hear the login sounds, xmms plays music, but the gnome volume controller applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[01:23] <keleus> g2g
[01:23] <mwe> !automatix
[01:23] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is a piece of cr*p that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[01:23] <abou> DBO, it's on http://pastebin.com/761036
[01:23] <ChakRa> well all i wanted was php and apche already combined which comes with dapper now YAY
[01:23] <mwe> hmm it works now :|
[01:24] <Stormx2> Is that factoid really ok?
[01:24] <mwe> yeah
[01:24] <Fujitsu> Stormx2, it's right.
[01:24] <Stormx2> Its right but meh >_<
[01:24] <DBO> abou, ok, what file do you want shared? do you want it writable?
[01:24] <tsume> hehe
[01:24] <Stormx2> Some people don't like having cr*p in IRC channels...
[01:24] <mwe> Stormx2: it could be extended though. but basically
[01:24] <fent> Managu: thats what i was getting at slowly ;)
[01:24] <Managu> fent: I'd first check your bios to be sure you're booting the proper drive.  IF you are, you'll need to install grub to the master boot sector on your drive
[01:25] <fent> Managu: its allways good to get a second opinoin.  yeah i'm going to try that when i get home
[01:25] <Stormx2> Question: Does the new open office spreadsheet app use wine?!
[01:25] <spikeb> no
[01:25] <Managu> fent: for the latter, I'd ask ubotu about !grub
[01:25] <spikeb> OOo doesn't use wine at all
[01:25] <fent> !grub
[01:25] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:25] <Stormx2> Well
[01:25] <camilita> any1 can help me
[01:25] <abou> DBO, /media/sda5/dox/downloads/  readable writeable, (I'll ask if I can't figure out how to change the permissions)
[01:25] <mwe> Stormx2: oo.org is native
[01:25] <camilita> please!
[01:25] <camilita> s
[01:25] <Seveas> Stormx2, pm
[01:25] <Stormx2> Why does it look like windows, and use windows fonts, etc..
[01:25] <basbryan> !sound
[01:25] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:25] <_jason> camilita: what is you question??
[01:25] <spikeb> it doesn't.
[01:25] <mwe> Stormx2: it doesn't here
[01:26] <guestie> i just installed and apt-get doesnt work for me, any ideas why that might be
[01:26] <mwe> Stormx2: it looks like gtk2
[01:26] <Stormx2> Oh...
[01:26] <andi5> Stormx2: if you can, try to avoid wine :)
[01:26] <camilita> f
[01:26] <camilita> f
[01:26] <camilita> f
[01:26] <camilita> f
[01:26] <camilita> f
[01:26] <Stormx2> Wow thats wierd.
[01:26] <camilita> f
[01:26] <LoRez> Warning: `camilita' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kills/klines will be issued.
[01:26] <camilita> f
[01:26] <Stormx2> Mine looks like windows.
[01:26] <camilita> f
[01:26] <camilita> f
[01:26] <DBO> !ops
[01:26] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[01:26] <roostishaw> what is the command to configure wine?
[01:26] <DBO> thanks Seveas
[01:26] <DBO> abou, http://pastebin.com/761043
[01:26] <Stormx2> roostishaw: winecfg
[01:26] <DBO> abou, look at the bottom
[01:26] <roostishaw> thanks!
[01:26] <guestie> no matter what i try to get it says "E: Couldn't find package"
[01:26] <HedgeMage> Seveas: you're faster than me :D
[01:27] <`Boo`> roostishaw: wine ~/program.exe
[01:27] <Stormx2> This isn't a new dapper install.
[01:27] <jvai> the graphic were good on that
[01:27] <`Boo`> nevermind i thought you said use wine >_<
[01:27] <guestie> anybody know why apt-get isnt working on my new install
[01:27] <_jason> guestie: internet access is working otherwise on the system?
[01:27] <Seveas> HedgeMage, hehe takes just /cs kb <nick> here 
[01:27] <guestie> yup
[01:27] <guestie> thats how im talking to you right now lol
[01:27] <tsume> HedgeMage: its a spammer! !
[01:27] <Stormx2> I tried upgrading from breezy, and it broke my system. So I installed breezy again and upgraded straight away. I had to install OO.o a couple of days ago. And it looks like wine >_<
[01:27] <_jason> guestie: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin?
[01:27] <jvai> snap tsume, what kind of keyboard is dat?"
[01:28] <mwe> Stormx2: strange
[01:28] <andi5> i have not fully updated to the released dapper yet, but is there someone else experiencing bad drawing mistakes (bad colors) of buttons for the human gtk2 theme?
[01:28] <tsume> jvai: 
[01:28] <guestie> jason, how would I go about doing that?  (sorry I just got linux about an hour ago)
[01:28] <jvai> lol.. i like
[01:28] <jvai> dat
[01:28] <Stormx2> Hold on I'll upload a screenshot.
[01:28] <spikeb> that might just be the new theme andi-
[01:28] <DBO> abou, did you make those changes?
[01:28] <spikeb> heh
[01:28] <HedgeMage> Seveas: hehe :)
[01:29] <`Boo`> hey, does anyone know why my wallpaper resets to brown after each reboot?
[01:29] <HedgeMage> Seveas: well I could always leave my klining umode on for faster response, but we've seen what happens when I leave the one on that lets me voice people :P
[01:29] <Seveas> HedgeMage, lol!
[01:29] <tsume> ubotu: automatix is some software, grab the deb here: http://beerorkid.com/arnieboy/automatix_6.1-5_i386.deb
[01:29] <ubotu> ...but automatix is already something else...
[01:29] <tsume> ubotu: no, automatix is some software, grab the deb here: http://beerorkid.com/arnieboy/automatix_6.1-5_i386.deb
[01:29] <ubotu> tsume: okay
[01:29] <Stormx2> oKtosiTe, for anyone who wants to see what I consider some internal use of wine in open office... www.goldenfalcon.net/Screenshot.png
[01:29] <jvai> boo, go to xscreensaver, & make the 1 u want the default
[01:29] <andi5> spikeb: but why release ubuntu with a theme that tends to look bad? .... btw, i like it when it is drawn correctly :)
[01:29] <_jason> guestie: open up applications > accessories > terminal and type "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then copy the contents and make a post at pastebin (the url is in the topic of this channel), then give us the url to the post
[01:29] <Stormx2> Why did that come out oKtosiTe... Damn.
[01:29] <voraistos> !automatix
[01:29] <ubotu> [automatix]  a piece of cr*p that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[01:29] <spikeb> andi5, hehe, then perhaps it is a bug
[01:29] <abou> DBO, after editing the file do I need to issue any command to refresh the server settings?
[01:30] <guestie> will do chief
[01:30] <amphi> Seveas: what is this automatix madness?
[01:30] <prammy> hello everyone
[01:30] <Stormx2> mwe ^^ up
[01:30] <DBO> abou, you bet you do, "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart"
[01:30] <voraistos> !automatix
[01:30] <roostishaw> where can i search the ubuntu repos?
[01:30] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is a piece of cr*p that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[01:30] <mwe> Stormx2: ?
[01:30] <voraistos> !easyubuntu
[01:30] <ubotu> it has been said that easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[01:30] <liam> automatix is a popular script to automatically and download and install several useful ubuntu packages
[01:30] <Stormx2> mwe: www.goldenfalcon.net/Screenshot.png
[01:30] <Seveas> voraistos, don't play with the bot
[01:30] <czer323> _jason, mwe> Reinstalling adobe plugins with Automatix didnt' seem to help.  I've included the error from Terminal.  http://pastebin.com/761051
[01:30] <gus_> hi guys
[01:30] <Managu> apparently there's some faction that's not happy with the bad rep Automatix has earned in #ubuntu
[01:31] <Seveas> liam, and to automatically wreck your system
[01:31] <jvai> lol, i loaded easyubuntu on here
[01:31] <Stormx2> hi gus_
[01:31] <DBO> abou, then "sudo smbpasswd -a <username>" and set a password for your username *dont use the same one you use to log in*
[01:31] <voraistos> Seveas: but they talk good about automatix  !!!
[01:31] <_jason> czer323: try not using automatix to do it
[01:31] <`Boo`> easyubuntu > *
[01:31] <czer323> lol
[01:31] <mwe> huh. opening oowriter->settings crashed it :|
[01:31] <amphi> liam: ah... and in a somewhat clumsy fashion, it would seem - people seem to have strong feelings about it
[01:31] <roostishaw> where can i search the ubuntu repos?
[01:31] <Seveas> roostishaw, apt-cache search
[01:31] <tsume_> !automatix
[01:31] <ubotu> [automatix]  a piece of cr*p that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[01:31] <tsume_> lol
[01:31] <Stormx2> STOP IT!
[01:31] <abou> DBO, thx
[01:31] <Weirdbro> Who edited the bot display?
[01:31] <roostishaw> Seveas, i just want the deb... not to install it... how do i get that?
[01:31] <gus_> im trying to setup some enviroment variables but iim not doing it right
[01:32] <gus_> where shoud i modify ?
[01:32] <guestie> Jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15157
[01:32] <Stormx2> Woh 0:36
[01:32] <Stormx2> I need to sleep >_<
[01:32] <amphi> gus_: export foo=bar
[01:32] <gus_> ok
[01:32] <theine> gus_: which variable?
[01:32] <mr_clark> Hi guys. Trying to install 6.06 AMD 64 on an IBM x336 server with LSI SCSI Controller. Getting the following errors (sorry I'm typing this from my notes...)
[01:32] <mwe> Stormx2: well I don't see how it looks like windows. the icons or what?
[01:32] <DBO> abou, now you can go to your windows box, open expolorer, type \\[ip_of_server]  and give it your username and password (the new one)
[01:32] <mwe> Stormx2: or the gray bg
[01:32] <gus_> some java related varibles
[01:32] <ighost> does anyone know what the point of using the new broadcom wireless drivers instead of ndiswraper?
[01:32] <gus_> hmm
[01:32] <mr_clark> sd 2:0:0:0 SCSI eror return code=0x8000002
[01:32] <spikeb> Stormx2, that doesn't really look like windows, but it doesn't look like the rest of your desktop either
[01:32] <czer323> I'll try with Automatix, but everything worked for the last day or two.  Probably the last thing I did was remove some packages that were just wasting space.  aka - printer, unused drivers, modem junk >_>
[01:32] <BearPerson> o.O
[01:33] <ChakRa> oh?
[01:33] <`Boo`> lol.
[01:33] <Seveas> oopsie 
[01:33] <DBO> haha
[01:33] <czer323> Scratch automatix, replace with EasyUbuntu
[01:33] <mr_clark> sda:Current: sense key: aborted command
[01:33] <amphi> heh
[01:33] <Stormx2> spikeb: The dialogs are all windows based.
[01:33] <mwe> Seveas: are you drunk? :)
[01:33] <ChakRa> i didnt do anything wrong did i?
[01:33] <mr_clark> Additional sense data phaase crc errors detected
[01:33] <theine> gus_: to make it permanent, put it either in ~/.gnomerc or system wide in /etc/environment
[01:33] <Stormx2> spikeb: I swear. Look at the bottom, thats a big give away
[01:33] <Seveas> mwe, bug in my chanserv script
[01:33] <mr_clark> end-request:I/O error, dev sda sector 65768
[01:33] <Weirdbro> Does anyone know how to run Apache2 under a user/group other than www-data without screwing up PHPMyAdmin?
[01:33] <spikeb> Stormx2, i noticed that, it doesn't fit into your gtk theme and it should
[01:33] <gus_> theine, i didnt modify that file ill give it a try
[01:33] <spikeb> Stormx2, do you have the openoffice gnome integration or gtk integration installed?
[01:33] <roostishaw> where can i search the ubuntu repos?
[01:33] <Managu> mr_clark: so far, it sounds like either (a) a bad CD or (b) a bad CD drive
[01:34] <roostishaw> online
[01:34] <Stormx2> spikeb: I... don't know
[01:34] <andi5> roostishaw: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:34] <Stormx2> let me see.
[01:34] <amphi> gus_: to make it permanent, but it in ~/.bash_profile
[01:34] <theine> gus_: better use ~/.gnomerc though
[01:34] <roostishaw> thx!
[01:34] <abou> DBO, now from windows..  \\192.168.1.10\ doesn't work? is that norma?
[01:34] <mr_clark> This is during the install after I've partitioned the drive and its trying to format.
[01:34] <amphi> gus_: s/but/put
[01:34] <abou> DBO, now from windows..  \\192.168.1.10\ doesn't work? is that normal?
[01:34] <`Boo`> can someone explain the swap file to me?
[01:34] <spikeb> Stormx2, check :)
[01:34] <andi5> swap _file_?
[01:34] <gus_> i dont have gnomerc
[01:34] <DBO> abou, doesnt ask for a password?
[01:34] <gus_> .gnomerc
[01:34] <guestie> _jason did you catch my pastebin?  here it is again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15157
[01:34] <amphi> gus_: ~/.bash_profile
[01:34] <_jason> gus_: you cna just create it
[01:34] <theine> gus_: you need to create that
[01:34] <andi5> gus_: prepend a dot :)
[01:34] <amphi> gus_: not .gnomerc
[01:34] <theine> amphi: why not?
[01:34] <mr_clark> Anybody know how to install Ubuntu with a LSI SCSI controller or get past the errors I'm getting?
[01:34] <gus_> hmm ok
[01:35] <Weirdbro> Does anyone know how to run Apache2 under a user/group other than www-data without screwing up PHPMyAdmin?
[01:35] <pyer> oya, can somebody help me with wpa_supplicant?
[01:35] <theine> amphi: that won't make it available to Gnome
[01:35] <Managu> mr_clark: so far, it sounds like either (a) a bad CD or (b) a bad CD drive.  You might try to burn/order another copy
[01:35] <abou> DBO, which password should I give? my linux user password?
[01:35] <gus_> amphi, ~/.bash_profile i already try with that file
[01:35] <koopa_> Seveas: http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p5100202sm9ns.jpg
[01:35] <koopa_> http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p5100202sm9ns.jpg
[01:35] <mwe> isn't ~/.bash_profile normally created when you create an account? here it's present in /etc/skel at least
[01:35] <pyer> i newby i need of internet :)
[01:35] <theine> gus_: please put it in ~/.gnomerc
[01:35] <mr_clark> Managu, Ok. I'll try that.
[01:35] <amphi> gus_: so this is not a shell var ?
[01:35] <ighost> does anyone know the advantage of using the new broadcom wireless drivers instead of ndiswraper?
[01:35] <theine> amphi: it is
[01:36] <DBO> abou, no no, did you do "sudo smbpasswd -a <username>" (replace username with yours and give it a new password)
[01:36] <andi5> theine: you can read the file into the current shell with   $ . ~/.gnomerc    then
[01:36] <amphi> theine: bash doesn't read .gnomerc
[01:36] <gus_> it's the JAVA_HOME and some other varibables
[01:36] <gus_> only that
[01:36] <andi5> gus_: you can read the file into the current shell with   $ . ~/.gnomerc    then
[01:36] <gus_> :P
[01:36] <Managu> ighost: new Broadcom drivers?
[01:36] <theine> amphi: so what? if bash is lauched under Gnome, than the variable will still be set
[01:36] <`Boo`> erm....ubuntu doesnt recognize my CD drive...it recognizes my DVD drive though...
[01:36] <_jason> guestie: yes I missed it the first time.  You have some repos commented, but you should be able to find packages in main.  What does 'sudo apt-get install -s zsh' say?
[01:36] <theine> andi5: thanks, but you're telling that the wrong guy
[01:36] <amphi> theine: not all shells are launched under gnome
[01:37] <Weirdbro> Does anyone know how to run Apache2 under a user/group other than www-data without screwing up PHPMyAdmin?
[01:37] <mathieu> i ve just switched to dapper and xine seems to be slower than breezy to play wmv files in xine
[01:37] <ighost> Managu: ya there is a new module called bcm4xx or something
[01:37] <theine> amphi: I know
[01:37] <abou> DBO, ok thanks
[01:37] <mathieu> do you know what I should do ?
[01:37] <Managu> ighost: tried google?
[01:37] <andi5> theine: i have already correctly, sorry
[01:37] <jvai> hey uall, my box doesnt show it's swap space anymore!!! since this morning's boot, sys mon just shows used swap as '0bytes of 0bytes nan%' WTF!!?
[01:37] <pyer> no intel onboard smth
[01:37] <theine> amphi: but if you put it in ~/.bash_profile, than GUI applications under Gnome won't know about the environment variable
[01:37] <amphi> jvai: cat /proc/swaps
[01:37] <Seveas> jvai, a failed hibernate perhaps?
[01:37] <gus_> hmm
[01:37] <ighost> Managu well i was looking for a 'review' of them but no result
[01:37] <gus_> no luck
[01:37] <jvai> ooooo
[01:37] <santiagokq> i just switched to dapper, and now i can't do (for example) sudo nautilus, or sudo graphical-app: i get "cannot open display"... what happens?
[01:37] <theine> gus_: did you put it in ~/.gnomerc?
[01:37] <jvai> it's workin fine, but i neva saw that
[01:38] <gus_> yup
[01:38] <ighost> Managu: they seem pretty flacky to me compared with ndiswrapper, but there might be an advantage in avoiding windows drivers...
[01:38] <theine> gus_: then you need to re-login into Gnome
[01:38] <jsestri2> what is the how to page with all the info for setting up various dapper components?
[01:38] <Krhis2> So where's the "Remember desktop layout" in gnome's logout menu in Dapper?
[01:38] <jvai> yes seveas, last week i tried the hibernate thingy, wound up doing a hard resett
[01:38] <amphi> theine: two cheers for gnome, then
[01:38] <_jason> jsestri2: what kind of components?
[01:38] <gus_> theine, ouch
[01:38] <DBO> jvai, how much RAM you got?
[01:38] <theine> gus_: you only need to do it now, the change will be permanent
[01:38] <Seveas> jvai, then you'll have to undo the damage it did. sudo mkswap /dev/your_swap_disk
[01:39] <jsestri2> _jason: well particularly im looking for how to load a USB msd...
[01:39] <Managu> ighost: without really knowing, my guess would be (a) free software ideals and (b) distributability.
[01:39] <guestie> _jason it says a couple of things...  sug. package zsh-doc... recommended libpcre3, new packages will be installed zsh
[01:39] <andi5> santiagokq: one wild hack is to $ xhost + ; DISPLAY=:0 sudo nautilus ; xhost -
[01:39] <theine> gus_: what's the precise contents of ~/.gnomerc?
[01:39] <gus_> theine, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15158
[01:39] <theine> content
[01:39] <Phsycokid> I'm having some trouble installing dapper drake on my G3 iMac. Is it even possible?
[01:39] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i just samba shared my home folder so i can copy some music onto my windows pc (don't yell, but please help), and what happened is that i Set it up, and then when i try to connect to it, i don't know the user name or password in windows, what would the defaults be ?
[01:39] <_jason> guestie: which packages failed exactly?
[01:39] <guestie> it doesnt say anything about failures
[01:39] <nanook> free porn: http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p5100202sm7js.jpg
[01:39] <Managu> wubrgamer: have you tried your Ubuntu login/password?
[01:39] <santiagokq> thanks andi5; but what does that mean and why is it "wild"?
[01:39] <tim__> Can anybody tell me why I can never execute any apps through gksudo. it always fails with "Child terminated with 1 status"
[01:39] <ighost> Managu: that's what i would guess but i'm more interesting in the practical solution and ndiswrapper seems to work fine
[01:40] <wubrgamer> yrd
[01:40] <DBO> wubrgamer, do "sudo smbpasswd -a <username>" replace with your username
[01:40] <wubrgamer> *yes
[01:40] <wubrgamer> what is the -a ?
[01:40] <blanky> tim__, type gksudo nautilus
[01:40] <theine> gus_: let me modify it...
[01:40] <andi5> santiagokq: it is wild because you have to ask what it means :)
[01:40] <DBO> add
[01:40] <blanky> tim__, does it say the same thing?
[01:40] <DBO> wubrgamer, it will prompt you for a password, do NOT give it your login password
[01:40] <dataangel> Is there some way to get dapper to let me mount loopback filesystems without me having to edit my /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab? Every guide I've found on mounting loopback filesystems says I should just be able to do "mount -o diskimage mountpoint" but mount complains I don't have an entry for mountpoint in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:40] <gus_> theine, ok, thanx
[01:40] <_jason> guestie: I meant which packages were you trying to install with apt-get before?
[01:40] <Managu> ighost: the only other thing I can think of is that ndiswrapper has no way to support master mode.  Free drivers _might_ support master mode, depending on the driver.
[01:40] <theine> gus_: sorry, it's actually OK
[01:40] <tim__> blanky, yes
[01:40] <gus_> ah
[01:40] <Seveas> dataangel, mount -o loop image mountpoint
[01:40] <blanky> tim__, what's th eproblem again?
[01:40] <guestie> oh a couple different ones, flash for firefox, pdf for firefox, java
[01:41] <andi5> santiagokq: well, it allows all clients to connect to the xserver and launches nautilus as root and display env variable set to display 0...
[01:41] <abou> DBO, now the other way round, if I want to access a windows shared folder from linux, what should I do?
[01:41] <theine> gus_: did you log out of Gnome and try again?
[01:41] <guestie> none of them worked
[01:41] <Seveas> dataangel, with existing mountpoint of course
[01:41] <amphi> dataangel: you need to specify the fs type
[01:41] <Krhis2> Any idea where the locaton of gnome's "Remember desktop layout" in the logout menu in disappeared to in Dapper?
[01:41] <gus_> theine, nop ill do it right now
[01:41] <ighost> Managu: master mode, is that the same as ad-hoc mode?
[01:41] <_jason> guestie: ah for those you need universe and multiverse, ubotu will explain the procedure
[01:41] <gus_> brb
[01:41] <DBO> abou, places -> connect to server
[01:41] <gus_> :D
[01:41] <amphi> ighost: no
[01:41] <theine> gus_: alright
[01:41] <DBO> abou, then just fill in the blanks
[01:41] <blanky> tim__, I mean, google the exact error, put it into google, I know this is dumb advice but it usually gives you links to pages where they solved the problem
[01:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell guestie about repos
[01:41] <santiagokq> andi5, ok but could you please of a more general solution?  i mean why can't i do "sudo nautilus" anymore?
[01:41] <tim__> blanky, i want to run update manager through gksudo and i always get the error child terminated at error 1
[01:41] <guestie> _jason, thanks
[01:41] <tim__> blanky, i tried that. no avail
[01:41] <amphi> ighost: master mode is acting as an AP
[01:41] <andi5> santiagokq: good question, please reask loudly ;-)
[01:41] <Managu> ighost: no.  in master mode, your computer plays the same role as a wireless router
[01:41] <_jason> jsestri2: ah sorry not familiar with that
[01:42] <santiagokq> ok
[01:42] <mr_clark> Managu, Just got the installer to check the CD and it says its fine.
[01:42] <wubrgamer> alright, well i can connect, but i can't see my shared folder
[01:42] <abou> DBO, thx
[01:42] <blanky> tim__, ah okay, I doubt anyone can help here, they might, but probably not at this time of the day, you might want to try www.ubuntuforums.org , that way many more millions of people will see your question and it's almost guaranteed to be answered
[01:42] <jsestri2> can anyone point me in the direction of how to mount a USB Mass Storage device?
[01:42] <wubrgamer> do i need to be able to read ext3 on my windows box ? or umm.........
[01:42] <ighost> Managu and amphi: o that's interesting,
[01:42] <Rhine> Anyone know the name of the application to manage art? Like backgrounds, icons, and themes?
[01:42] <blanky> Sorry tim__ for now knowing the answer
[01:42] <Managu> mr_clark: is it possible that the HD has errors?
[01:43] <DBO> wubrgamer, nope, lemme see your /etc/samba/smb.conf in pastebin please
[01:43] <santiagokq> in breezy, i could just do "sudo nautilus" or "sudo whatever", and launch graphical apps as root... now dapper says "gtk-warning: cannot open display"... anyone knows what happens and how can i fix it?
[01:43] <mr_clark> Brand new server.
[01:43] <wubrgamer> DBO, why not my login password ?
[01:43] <mr_clark> Managu, doubt it very much.
[01:43] <tim__> blanky, thanks for your time anyway!
[01:43] <Managu> mr_clark: I see.  Sorry, that exhausts my suggestions =(
[01:43] <wubrgamer> DBO, it was a bit late.......can i just change it ?
[01:43] <mr_clark> Managu, okay thanks for trying.
[01:43] <wubrgamer> cause i handed it my login
[01:43] <DBO> wubrgamer, if you want, its a minor security thing
[01:43] <wubrgamer> ?
[01:43] <andi5> santiagokq: really weird... i just tried it and it worked...
[01:43] <wubrgamer> why ?
[01:43] <DBO> wubrgamer, just do "smbpasswd" in terminal to change it
[01:43] <Sergi0> santiagokq: try 'gksudo'
[01:43] <mr_clark> I'll go back to debian. Was just looking forward to having a 64 bit version installed on the server.
[01:43] <wubrgamer> altight
[01:44] <Krhis2> Any idea where the locaton of gnome's "Remember desktop layout" in the logout menu in disappeared to in Dapper?
[01:44] <santiagokq> kq@breezy:~$ gksudo nautilus
[01:44] <santiagokq> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:44] <santiagokq> Xlib: No protocol specified
[01:44] <santiagokq> (nautilus:5450): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:44] <nanook> Seveas: here you some porn you stupid nigger ;) http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p5100202sm7js.jpg
[01:44] <DBO> wubrgamer, as for not being able to see your shares, I need to see your /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:44] <DBO> !ops
[01:44] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[01:44] <andi5> santiagokq: did not you say sudo?
[01:44] <Seveas> DBO, already quit...
[01:44] <jsestri2> thats an f'd up pictures
[01:44] <DBO> Seveas, sorry, me slow
[01:44] <jvai> lol
[01:44] <santiagokq> andi5: but you told me to try gksudo
[01:44] <nelisa> any successful MP3 rippers??
[01:44] <jvai> lol
[01:45] <andi5> santiagokq: whhhat? ;-)
[01:45] <jsestri2> can anyone help me get my usb mass storage device mounted?
[01:45] <wubrgamer> alright, can you see my password in that file ? cause i like my login password.......
[01:45] <gus_> nice
[01:45] <jvai> uall r ... dangerous
[01:45] <andi5> i have never ever suggested gksudo :D
[01:45] <santiagokq> oh no Sergi0 told me to try gksudo...
[01:45] <gus_> theine,  hey man can i be your friend ?
[01:45] <gus_> :D
[01:45] <ighost> Managu: well that is a pretty nice feature but i'd rather be able to run g mode not just b and ndiswrapper only supports b
[01:45] <DBO> wubrgamer, its encrypted, it just gets sent over the network, its up to you man
[01:45] <Rhine> Anyone know the name of the application to manage art? Like backgrounds, icons, and themes?
[01:45] <theine> gus_: glad it worked ;)
[01:45] <Krhis2> Just one small gnome 2.14.1 question...
[01:46] <Managu> ighost: ehh?  You mean the bcm4xx drivers only support b?
[01:46] <andi5> DBO: can i have a cookie too?.... pppplease?
[01:46] <Seveas> DBO, you call banninnig *!*@* not going batty? ;)
[01:46] <gus_> now i wonder why the ... damn netbeans dosent like this imports..... but well
[01:46] <DBO> Seveas, ok, only moderately batty
[01:46] <ighost> Managu: yup
[01:46] <Sergi0> maybe (not really sure) u need a root password just like it would be a normal useraccount, or am i on the wrong direction here guys?
[01:46] <_jason> Rhine: well gnome-art for themes
[01:46] <Sergi0> santiagokq: *
[01:46] <santiagokq> in breezy, i could just do "sudo nautilus" or "sudo whatever", and launch graphical apps as root... now dapper says "gtk-warning: cannot open display"... anyone knows what happens and how can i fix it?
[01:46] <wubrgamer> guys
[01:46] <theine> gus_: Sorry, I know nothing about Java...
[01:46] <wubrgamer> shit
[01:46] <wubrgamer> HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:46] <ighost> Managu: i've read it in a few places and also the instructions require that you set your ap to allow mixed mode
[01:46] <gus_> theine, np mate, thanx
[01:47] <DBO> hey, that was my helpee Seveas
[01:47] <amphi> ighost: what is mixed mode?
[01:47] <theine> gus_: you're welcome
[01:47] <DBO> =P
[01:47] <Seveas> wubrgamer, behave please...
[01:47] <ighost> Managu: mixed mode is when the ap allows both 802.11b and g
[01:47] <Managu> ighost: I'm really no familiar with the details; and it's not clear that the bcm4xx driver even supports master mode
[01:47] <DBO> wubrgamer, no swearing please
[01:47] <jbirdAngel> does gnome use lots of "daemons"?
[01:47] <DBO> wubrgamer, what went wrong?
[01:47] <wubrgamer> .....sry
[01:47] <Managu> ighost: yup
[01:47] <amphi> ighost: ah
[01:47] <ighost> amphi: sorry directed it at wrong person
[01:47] <Krhis2> Just one small gnome 2.14.1 question... Any care to help me out?
[01:47] <jsestri2> can anyone point me in the direction of how to mount a usb mass storage device?
[01:47] <andi5> jbirdAngel: what do you mean by daemons?
[01:47] <amphi> ighost: yeah, saw it, thanks
[01:47] <wubrgamer> my plan was to reboot my system, and well........it isn't really working out for me *tear*
[01:48] <DBO> Krhis2, just ask and we will try to help
[01:48] <weazzle> I can give it a shot, Krhis2
[01:48] <Krhis2> Any idea where the locaton of gnome's "Remember desktop layout" in the logout menu in disappeared to in Dapper?
[01:48] <DBO> wubrgamer, error?
[01:48] <jbirdAngel> the computer process things called "daemons"
[01:48] <ighost> i guess i'll stick to ndiswrapper for now ;)
[01:48] <weazzle> on logout it will ask you
[01:48] <slavik> why wouldn't ubuntu connect to a 64bit hex protected router (dlink) using opensource drivers
[01:48] <BlueEagle> !smb
[01:48] <ubotu> BlueEagle: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:48] <BlueSwirl> Krhis2, i'd like to know hat too
[01:48] <BlueEagle> !samba
[01:48] <ubotu> methinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[01:48] <Seveas> jbirdAngel, gnomevfs, gnome-settings-daemon, gconf, bonobo
[01:48] <Seveas> and probably more
[01:48] <jbirdAngel> Seveas: okay thank you
[01:48] <Krhis2> Thanks weazzle, but there's not check box or anything.
[01:49] <ighost> the only thing i don't like about it is that i have to redo stuff with kernel updates but that's not such a big deal
[01:49] <Managu> slavik: the driver may not support your choice of encryption on that chipset
[01:49] <weazzle> oops, I forgot to check for that in Daper yet
[01:49] <wubrgamer> something with hardware drivers
[01:49] <andi5> jbirdAngel: well,.... what is a computer process thing called daemon? ... does it need to open a tcp port on a public network? what is it?
[01:49] <wubrgamer> aack
[01:49] <santiagokq> in breezy, i could just do "sudo nautilus" or "sudo whatever", and launch graphical apps as root... now dapper says "gtk-warning: cannot open display"... anyone knows what happens and how can i fix it ?
[01:49] <wubrgamer> actually, my hard disk drivers
[01:49] <slavik> Managu: where can I check if it does?
[01:49] <wubrgamer> aack
[01:49] <jbirdAngel> andi5: i dunno the tech details but Seveas answered my question, thank you for trying to help :)
[01:49] <Managu> slavik: fair question.  Sec
[01:49] <DBO> wubrgamer, we need real errors, and stop with the aacks please =)
[01:49] <slavik> also, is tkip the same as psk?
[01:49] <Krhis2> So no one's sure?
[01:50] <Krhis2> Odd...
[01:50] <theine> santiagokq: "sudo nautilus" still works for me on Dapper?
[01:50] <jsestri2> how do I mount a usb mass storage device?
[01:50] <theine> santiagokq: Ignore the question mark...
[01:50] <Seveas> jbirdAngel/andi5: a daemon is anything that runs in the background and can be contacted via some communication mechanism (tcp/ip is one of those mechanisms)
[01:50] <santiagokq> theine: it's weird but it doesn't work for me
[01:50] <weazzle> I would have to boot up my laptop to look at it
[01:50] <Krhis2> Ty.
[01:50] <kermitX_> santiagokq: if you're logged into root (sudo su -, etc), and run something like gedit, it won't work. but if you're logged in as YOU (a user) and sudo gedit (for example), it will work.
[01:50] <squid2k6> #ubuntu-mx
[01:50] <Managu> slavik: I don't know right off.  Possibly "sudo iwlist wlan0 key" at a console.  You could also try googling
[01:51] <jbirdAngel> Seveas: okay thank you
[01:51] <Stormx2> santiagokq: Try gksudo "nautilus"
[01:51] <santiagokq> Stormx2: same error
[01:51] <Weirdbro> Does anyone know how to run Apache2 under a user/group other than www-data without screwing up PHPMyAdmin?
[01:51] <wubrgamer> it says umm, gimme a sec..........
[01:51] <slavik> Managu: is tkip the same as psk?
[01:51] <wubrgamer> [numbers period numbers]  ata1: command 0x25 timeout, stat 0cd8 host_stat 0x21
[01:51] <wubrgamer> [same numbers as above]  ata1: traslated ata stat/err 0xd8/00 to SCSI sk/asc/ascq 0xb/47/00
[01:51] <Stormx2> santiagokq: I have no problems with using sudo nautilus
[01:51] <santiagokq> kermitX_: i'm logged in as me, and do sudo gedit, and still doesn't work
[01:51] <Stormx2> santiagokq: What was the error?
[01:52] <jsestri2> ubotu mass storage device
[01:52] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jsestri2
[01:52] <theine> santiagokq: since when doesn't it work for you? since you dist-upgraded to Dapper?
[01:52] <santiagokq> kq@breezy:~$ sudo nautilus
[01:52] <santiagokq> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:52] <santiagokq> Xlib: No protocol specified
[01:52] <santiagokq> (nautilus:5544): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:52] <Managu> slavik: neither of those acronyms mean anything to me
[01:52] <Stormx2>  /msg the bot people, please
[01:52] <santiagokq> theine: exactly
[01:52] <DBO> !paste
[01:52] <kermitX_> open a new terminal and try.
[01:52] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[01:52] <slavik> k, ty
[01:52] <jsestri2> if anyone cares ubotu's search link is broken
[01:52] <DBO> wubrgamer, it stops there?
[01:52] <andi5> Seveas: i am sorry, i still thing this is a wish-wash definition ;-)
[01:53] <theine> santiagokq: not sure if this will reveal anything, but what does "sudo echo $DISPLAY" give you?
[01:53] <Madpilot> jsestri2, which search link?
[01:53] <mwe> jsestri2: it works fine here
[01:53] <wubrgamer> DBO: it repeats
[01:53] <jsestri2> ubotu crap
[01:53] <ubotu> jsestri2: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:53] <Seveas> andi5, it doesn't get much more specific 
[01:53] <wubrgamer> over and over
[01:53] <Weirdbro> Does anyone know how to run Apache2 under a user/group other than www-data without screwing up PHPMyAdmin?
[01:53] <DBO> wubrgamer, does it ever boot?
[01:53] <wubrgamer> nope
[01:53] <santiagokq> theine: :0.0
[01:53] <riddlebox> whew got my ivtv drivers working again, that threw me, I didnt think I would have to upgrade them on a dist-upgrade to dapper
[01:53] <wubrgamer> it hangs while trying to load........manuals of all things
[01:53] <DBO> wubrgamer, ooooh you are sooo screwed...
[01:53] <andi5> Seveas: all these applets sleep most of the time, but they are probably not called daemons very often, right?
[01:53] <squid2k6> #ubuntu-es
[01:53] <theine> santiagokq: that's fine
[01:53] <Seveas> andi-, correct
[01:53] <wubrgamer> aww, that's SO sweet of you to say
[01:53] <nelisa> anyone here successfully ripping mp3s?
[01:53] <DBO> wubrgamer, ok, got a live disc?
[01:54] <Stormx2> jsestri2: Don't play with the bot.
[01:54] <wubrgamer> si
[01:54] <Seveas> andi-, those applets are interactive programs
[01:54] <DBO> wubrgamer, throw it in and boot up
[01:54] <nelisa> I've hit an error following the guide
[01:54] <wubrgamer> why?
[01:54] <Madpilot> jsestri2, you mean the search on ubuntu.cc.com.au? It works for me...
[01:54] <wubrgamer> wait
[01:54] <jsestri2> Stormx2: lol woops, i was trying to demostrate which link is broken
[01:54] <mwe> jsestri2: it's not broken
[01:54] <wubrgamer> is the alternative install cd okay ?
[01:54] <DBO> wubrgamer, fsck the drive =)
[01:54] <Managu> nelisa: almost certainly so.  But that's probably not what you really want to know.
[01:54] <jsestri2> Madpilot: it gives me a 404 error
[01:54] <wubrgamer> fsck ?
[01:54] <wubrgamer> huh ?
[01:54] <wubrgamer> n00b = wubramer
[01:54] <DBO> wubrgamer, nope, we need a live environment
[01:54] <zcat[1] > what's the config file to set dma on drives?
[01:54] <andi5> Seveas: sorry, one short question: can you please add my trailing number, this makes it easier for me :)
[01:54] <DBO> wubrgamer, we are going to run a file system check, see whats going on
[01:54] <jsestri2> Madpilot: hmm now its decided to work
[01:54] <Madpilot> jsestri2, the whole page, or just the search function there
[01:55] <Madpilot> ?
[01:55] <Stormx2> wubrgamer: thats == to you and me, sonny
[01:55] <Managu> zcat[1] : the program hdparm, or the file /etc/hdparm.conf
[01:55] <Seveas> andi5, hehm tab completion going bad 
[01:55] <zcat[1] > cool, thanks!
[01:55] <Weirdbro> Does anyone know how to run Apache2 under a user/group other than www-data without screwing up PHPMyAdmin?
[01:55] <Weirdbro> .join #gnome
[01:55] <andi5> Seveas: nice symbol btw :)
[01:55] <jsestri2> Madpilot: i got a whole page now, before the whole thing gave me a 404 error
[01:55] <mwe> Weirdbro: why would you want that?
[01:55] <theine> santiagokq: can you paste /etc/sudoes somewhere?
[01:55] <Madpilot> jsestri2, isn't the internet fun? ;)
[01:56] <theine> santiagokq: sorry, /etc/sudoers
[01:56] <DBO> I use it when he doesnt look andi5 
[01:56] <Krhis2> Any luck, weazzle?
[01:56] <wycats> I just totally upgraded my mobo and graphics card, and Ubuntu, predictably, won't load into the GUI
[01:56] <Sergi0> Weirdbro: in the apache config file
[01:56] <jsestri2> Madpilot: yes! i love webservers too! you wouln't happen to know how to mount a usb mass storage device would you?
[01:56] <andi5> DBO: hehe
[01:56] <wycats> what do I need to do to get it to update the X server so I can get into the GUI
[01:56] <Madpilot> jsestri2, it doesn't automount?
[01:56] <Weirdbro> mwe: I'm trying to set up a testing server on Ubuntu Desktop
[01:56] <wycats> and how do I get it to redetect my new hardware?
[01:56] <jsestri2> ...maybe...i'm going to feel stupid if i didnt notice that
[01:56] <wubrgamer> ya know what, i thikn the install function of the altenate cd will suite my needs just fine
[01:56] <voraistos> does any one know a cool way to reencode, etc videos ? (like avi to ogm, divX to Xvid, ....)
[01:56] <santiagokq> theine: kq ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter, /usr/sbin/synaptic, /usr/bin/update-manager, /usr/bin/nautilus
[01:56] <nelisa> Managu: I need to put my french lessons on a Creative Zen, so its much a "hardware" constraint here
[01:56] <wubrgamer> thanks for the help guys, l8r
[01:56] <amphi> voraistos: mencoder
[01:57] <mwe> DBO: how do you make that funky smiley? I can only seem to copy paste it :=|
[01:57] <Seveas> DBO, DON'T STEAL MY SMILIES :
[01:57] <Weirdbro> and I don't want to constantly have to enter root nautilus to work with it
[01:57] <Madpilot> jsestri2, I don't own a USB key (yet) but the few that I've had plugged into this box have always just automounted like CDs do
[01:57] <DBO> mwe, ctrl+shift 30C4
[01:57] <nelisa> my error: Sound Juicer could not extract this CD.
[01:57] <nelisa> Reason: Could not create GStreamer encoders for MP3 Encoding
[01:57] <theine> santiagokq: can you paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[01:57] <jsestri2> Madpilot: i dont think it did....
[01:57] <mwe> Weirdbro: yes. what's wrong with the group
[01:57] <voraistos> amphi: thx i take a look ;)
[01:57] <DBO> Seveas, you and the character map need to get a divorce
[01:57] <nelisa> I've followed the doco to the letter
[01:57] <Managu> nelisa: mm, the Zen acts like a USB key, no?
[01:57] <santiagokq> theine: i just pasted it here
[01:57] <theine> santiagokq: that's hard to read
[01:57] <andi5> Seveas: i just checked, maybe xscreensaver and esd can be counted as daemons too :)
[01:57] <Madpilot> jsestri2, odd. Not sure what to suggest...
[01:58] <nelisa> Managu, but it only plays mp3 files
[01:58] <Weirdbro> mwe: but if I set the apache.conf to my user/group, phpmyadmin refuses to work
[01:58] <Seveas> andi5, definitely
[01:58] <mwe> Weirdbro: so add yourself to the appropiate groups
[01:58] <amphi> voraistos: you might want to read the docs in /usr/share/doc - man mencoder is a) mixed with man mplayer and b) a little complex
[01:58] <mwe> Weirdbro: don't do that
[01:58] <Weirdbro> mwe: I mean, the user and group options in apache.conf
[01:58] <andi5> gnome-keyring-daemon
[01:58] <theine> santiagokq: it's also easier for me to modify it in this way
[01:58] <nelisa> Managu: can you help me pass this one?
[01:58] <mwe> Weirdbro: that's crappy administration
[01:58] <Weirdbro> I'm new with Linux :P
[01:58] <jsestri2> Madpilot: its a new mp3 player i might not have it in msd mode...i'll continue to play, thanks for the help
[01:58] <Weirdbro> mwe: How do I add myself to a group?
[01:58] <Managu> nelisa: ooh, now that error's more interesting.  I'd suggest you ask ubotu about !restricted.  Summary: "sudo apt-get instal gstreamer-0.10-ffmpeg" (if it's legal for you to do so)
[01:58] <andi5> Weirdbro: adduser $user $group
[01:59] <Krhis2> Any idea where the locaton of gnome's "Remember desktop layout" in the logout menu in disappeared to in Dapper?
[01:59] <Weirdbro> mwe: And the Wiki instructs you to do it in the LAMP guide, so I thought it was good
[01:59] <mwe> Weirdbro: sudo gpasswd -a user group
[01:59] <BlueSwirl> Weirdbro, read the man pages for chmod and chown
[01:59] <mwe> Weirdbro: huh?
[01:59] <mwe> Weirdbro: what wiki. I'm gonna change that
[01:59] <BlueSwirl> Weirdbro, those'll be handy for groups and such
[01:59] <Weirdbro> The Wiki, it tells you that if you want it to run under your user/group, to edit a[acheconf
[01:59] <jsestri2> Madpilot: that was the problem! thanks
[01:59] <Weirdbro> a whole section in the LAMP wiki page
[02:00] <mwe> Weirdbro: that's braindead
[02:00] <Weirdbro> The Ubuntu Wiki
[02:00] <dungodung> ok, I seem to have fukced up... when I was trying to deal with dependencies for libapache2-php5, I had to install libc6_2.3.2 and I found it at the debian site. when I installed it, it downgraded the current version and broke some 800 packages. what am I to do to correct this?
[02:00] <Madpilot> jsestri2, glad you got it sorted. What sort of mp3 player is it?
[02:00] <Weirdbro> Ok, I'll take your word for it
[02:00] <theine> Weirdbro: link?
[02:00] <Managu> nelisa: or something similar.
[02:00] <nelisa> Managu: let me do it
[02:00] <mwe> Weirdbro: link please. I'll change it
[02:00] <Madpilot> dungodung, don't install from debian repos next time...
[02:00] <dungodung> Madpilot: ok. and how about this time?
[02:00] <jsestri2> Madpilot: San Disk Sansa e260 -- looks really good, and its not an ipod
[02:01] <TheHighChild> Hey folks, anyone using a thinkpad by chance?
[02:01] <jsestri2> Madpilot: similar to the ipod nano
[02:01] <theine> TheHighChild: I do
[02:01] <dungodung> Madpilot: besides, debian repos are much faster than ubuntu ones
[02:01] <Weirdbro> mwe: ://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP section 7
[02:01] <DBO> dungodung, remove whatever you installed, then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:01] <andi5> mwe.... unknown protocol ;-)
[02:01] <DBO> dungodung, hey, use them if you like having a broke system
[02:01] <Madpilot> dungodung, sure, but Ubuntu is not binary compatible w/ Debian... you might just want to re-install, with that much stuff busted...
[02:01] <amphi> TheHighChild: yup
[02:01] <TheHighChild> theine: Did you have any changes with the dapper upgrade?
[02:01] <zerokarmaleft> i can only login with failsafe gnome/failsafe terminal via gdm...nothing all too helpful in .xsession-errors either
[02:01] <dungodung> DBO: I don't
[02:01] <Vaske_Car>  GRUB loading stage 1.5 read error _ just reinstalled and got the same error message....
[02:01] <nelisa> Managu: it's upgrading to 6.06, looks like I'm blocked for a while
[02:02] <dungodung> Madpilot: no. not reinstall
[02:02] <TheHighChild> I don't get the on-screen display anymore, wasn't sure if it was a lost driver or a change in it's functionality
[02:02] <nelisa> thought migration would be less painful
[02:02] <theine> TheHighChild: No, so far I haven't encountered any?
[02:02] <Managu> nelisa: ok.  You should look at the wiki entry on restricted formats (MP3 is a restricted format).  That might help a bit.
[02:02] <theine> TheHighChild: -?
[02:02] <Madpilot> dungodung, then delete whatever you installed from Debian, re-set your sources.list to only Ubuntu repos, and see if atp-get update/apt-get upgrade fixes things...
[02:02] <DBO> nelisa, well let us kill that hilarious notion right now =P
[02:02] <dungodung> DBO: by removing it, it will free up to 2.3GIgs of space... some of the packages are essential
[02:02] <nelisa> just now I realized how restrictive/copyrighted is the computer world
[02:03] <TheHighChild> theine: When you raise the volume, turn on the light, etc. There is no on screen display. That is what I mean
[02:03] <AngryElf> guys, i've got apache2 and php5 installed, but instead of interpreting the php document firefox prompts for a program to execute it with......any ideas?
[02:03] <Krhis2> Any idea where the locaton of gnome's "Remember desktop layout" in the logout menu in disappeared to in Dapper?
[02:03] <DBO> dungodung, ok, try a sudo apt-get -f install
[02:03] <BlueSwirl> nelisa, welcome to open source :-)
[02:03] <dungodung> DBO: it gives error
[02:03] <dungodung> s
[02:03] <nelisa> Managu, I've followed the guide there and got stuck on that error
[02:03] <amphi> TheHighChild: is the nvram module loaded there?
[02:03] <DBO> dungodung, reinstall
[02:03] <dungodung> DBO: no! that's not the ubuntu spirit
[02:03] <zerokarmaleft> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15159...but starting X from console works fine
[02:04] <TheHighChild> amphi: I checked that, all I see in my repos is nvram-wakeup.
[02:04] <nelisa> BlueSwirl: Imagine I just convinces wife to give Ubuntu a shoot and she sees this
[02:04] <theine> TheHighChild: it works for me under Gnome, are you using KDE by any chance?
[02:04] <TheHighChild> yeah
[02:04] <voraistos> amphi: gmplayer package seems to be gone. is it normal ?
[02:04] <Seveas> dungodung, that's the spirit 
[02:04] <BlueSwirl> nelisa, how'd you mean?
[02:04] <theine> TheHighChild: Does /dev/nvram exist ?
[02:04] <Seveas> dungodung, I missed your problem, cpuld you repeat it
[02:04] <DBO> dungodung, it will take you less time to do a backup of your data and reinstall than it will take me the weeks to troubleshoot this over IRC
[02:04] <zerokarmaleft> where should i look to see what startup script is making gnome-session bug out?
[02:04] <TheHighChild> no
[02:05] <nelisa> BlueSwirl: she has a tickling clock in one hand and an XP Pro disk in the other hand
[02:05] <amphi> TheHighChild: does lsmod | grep nvram show anything?
[02:05] <DBO> Seveas, he installed something from debian repos, broke 800+ packages...
[02:05] <dungodung> Seveas: when I was trying to deal with dependencies for libapache2-php5, I had to install libc6_2.3.2 and I found it at the debian site. when I installed it, it downgraded the current version and broke some 800 packages
[02:05] <Madpilot> Seveas, he installed some stuff from a Debian repo, and it broke massive parts of his Ubuntu...
[02:05] <Seveas> DBO, that's fixable
[02:05] <theine> TheHighChild: Do "sudo modprobe nvram"
[02:05] <Krhis2> Any idea where the locaton of gnome's "Remember session layout" in the logout menu in disappeared to in Dapper?
[02:05] <Seveas> dungodung, yo did something very silly but it's actually quite easy to fi
[02:05] <BlueSwirl> nelisa, ah. tell her to be patient, it'll be worth it in the end. no more viruses! no more trojans! no more paying for windows! ;-)
[02:05] <TheHighChild> amphi: The lsmod |grep nvram works, showing 1 process
[02:05] <zerokarmaleft> Krhis2: they took it out
[02:05] <dungodung> Seveas: pray tell
[02:05] <Krhis2> O.o You're joking.
[02:05] <Seveas> dungodung, manualy download the libc6 package for your version of ubuntu
[02:06] <amphi> TheHighChild: and ps aux | grep tpb shows anything ?
[02:06] <dungodung> Seveas: I'm doing it atm
[02:06] <zerokarmaleft> Krhis2: the only thing you can do afaict is to change session properties to save session on every logout
[02:06] <Seveas> and do: dpkg -i --force-downgrade filename.deb
[02:06] <theine> TheHighChild: So does /dev/nvram exist now?
[02:06] <TheHighChild> Ok, I am a newb, are the messages in red (konversation) PM's?
[02:06] <dungodung> Seveas: I'm DL-ing the tar.gz
[02:06] <Seveas> dungodung, no
[02:06] <nelisa> BlueSwirl: problem she needs that now, let see if I get this sorted before she comes back from French class
[02:06] <bootlick> How do i shut down ports that are open? weird ports, 2628,4559,7000?
[02:06] <Seveas> dungodung, you need the .deb for your version of Ubuntu
[02:06] <dungodung> Seveas: I didn't find the deb
[02:06] <Madpilot> Krhis2, file a bug - in fact, *please* file a bug, the Dapper logout window is awful
[02:06] <Seveas> dungodung, which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:06] <zerokarmaleft> Krhis2: a lot of people aren't huge fans of the new logout dialog
[02:06] <BlueSwirl> nelisa, go! save her from XP! ;-)
[02:06] <nelisa> BlueSwirl: actually nelisa would be she
[02:06] <dungodung> Seveas: 5.10
[02:06] <Krhis2> Ok, well I saw that option..... Thanks for clearing this up for me!
[02:06] <andi5> bootlick: check /etc/services
[02:06] <Seveas> dungodung, sec.
[02:06] <dungodung> k
[02:07] <amphi> TheHighChild: no idea - my remarks are not PMs
[02:07] <BlueSwirl> nelisa, okay, no i am confused
[02:07] <BlueSwirl> now
[02:07] <TheHighChild> Amphi: Theine: No, no output to either of your questions
[02:07] <bootlick> and once in etc/services i can turn off the services i dont want running?
[02:07] <zerokarmaleft> Krhis2: i'm sure there's already a bug filed...probably named along the lines of "logout dialog sucks"
[02:07] <Krhis2> Wow, makes me want to get back to Fluxbox..... what ever happend to nUbuntu?
[02:07] <nelisa> BlueSwirl: I'm trying to do so, but keep hitting walls
[02:07] <Krhis2> zerokarmaleft, lol
[02:07] <Madpilot> zerokarmaleft, heh.
[02:07] <viksa> !nvidia
[02:07] <andi5> bootlick: no, it is a list of which ports tend to be used by which services
[02:07] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[02:07] <amphi> TheHighChild: you need the device file, and you need to run tpb
[02:07] <Seveas> dungodung, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.3.5-1ubuntu12_i386.deb
[02:08] <andreyv> whats the editor for the cd bootloader (i only know syslinux script)
[02:08] <andreyv> what package
[02:08] <theine> TheHighChild: "sudo rmmod nvram && sudo modprobe nvram" and see if that makes /dev/nvram appear
[02:08] <mlambie> Is there an official SPARC release of dapper? Mark Shuttlework keeps thanking the people behind it but I can't find an ISO/torrent ;)
[02:08] <dungodung> Seveas: wgetting
[02:08] <alex_mayorga> BlueSwirl: this is me, nelisa would be my wife, if we manage to keep her away from M$ XP
[02:08] <theine> TheHighChild: If not, look at "dmesg | tail" for hints on why it doesn't
[02:08] <andi5> bootlick: so 4559 is hylafax, you will have to deactivate that if you do not use it :)
[02:08] <Seveas> dungodung, btw: that is assuming you're on i386
[02:08] <BlueSwirl> alex_mayorga, gotcha. i think. good luck with whatever it is you guys are having problems with
[02:08] <TheHighChild> theine: Ok thanks. I will check it out. Says it's running ATM
[02:08] <dungodung> Seveas: indeed I am
[02:09] <Krhis2> Ok, I'm outta here.... cya.
[02:09] <alex_mayorga> BlueSwirl: thanks
[02:09] <Seveas> dungodung, good, then try the dpkg -i --force-downgrade
[02:09] <Unitg1|EoL|> well, if any encryption is on, my wireless doesn't connect ... any ideas? (broadcomm with open-source drivers)
[02:09] <theine> TheHighChild: So "rmmod nvram" doesn't work?
[02:09] <amphi> TheHighChild: if /dev/nvram is not there, you can create it with 'mknod /dev/nvram c 10 144'
[02:09] <dungodung> Seveas: it would actually be an upgrade
[02:09] <alex_mayorga> anyone here with a working CReative ZEN??
[02:09] <bootlick> andi5, i tried to deactiave it, not sure why its one, or where to deactivate it
[02:09] <paul_> Im wanting to install jdk on my system. I was wondering if I could be pointed in the right direction
[02:09] <Seveas> dungodung, heh ok
[02:09] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: can it go into msd mode?
[02:10] <alex_mayorga> is there a multimedia channel or something??
[02:10] <Brunno> how do i install unreal tournament on ubuntu ?
[02:10] <Unitg1|EoL|> Brunno: there is a bash script ...
[02:10] <Unitg1|EoL|> well, if any encryption is on, my wireless doesn't connect ... any ideas? (broadcomm with open-source drivers)
[02:10] <Managu> Unitg1|EoL|: perhaps you could try an easier to type handle?
[02:10] <Unitg1|EoL|> any help please?
[02:10] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: no this is the one ubuntu help channel
[02:10] <andi5> bootlick: i do not know the english wordings, but you have a menu system->admin->services or such
[02:10] <theine> TheHighChild: Does "dmesg | grep nvram" reveal anything?
[02:10] <Unitg1|EoL|> Managu: my friend likes it (I am slavik :P)
[02:10] <TheHighChild> theine: It gave me a Modile is in use error, for the rrmod
[02:10] <bootlick> andi5 yes, i do, i looked in there
[02:11] <Managu> slavi1: tried ndiswrapper?
[02:11] <slavi1> Managu: I don't want to ...
[02:11] <evissecx> anyone now how to get a auickcam messenger to work in ubuntu?
[02:11] <jhenn> what are some finance-management apps for ubuntu?
[02:11] <evissecx> know*
[02:11] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: let me plug the thing
[02:11] <theine> TheHighChild: Wow, that's so strange
[02:11] <TheHighChild> theine: dmesg |grep nvram does not return anything
[02:11] <slavi1> is it necessary really?
[02:11] <evissecx> quickcam that is
[02:11] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: I've got the gnomad2 package
[02:11] <theine> TheHighChild: How about "find /dev -name nvram" ?
[02:11] <Seveas> dungodung, did that work?
[02:11] <TheHighChild> It's not a huge deal. Everything works, just curious why I don't receive an onscreen display like before
[02:12] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: if it works in mass storage device mode, i'm pretty positive that it will automount...i just got my mp3 player working today
[02:12] <dungodung> Seveas: still downloading... will tell you
[02:12] <Seveas> ok
[02:12] <[zero] > Is there a way to get 2 lines of launchers in one panel? Like a top and bottom?
[02:12] <bootlick> andi5 theres a list of services on that menu but nothing about the weird ports i have open
[02:12] <dungodung> Seveas: I am working on a slower internet connection
[02:12] <Seveas> dungodung, in the mean time, could you pastebin your sources.list
[02:12] <baumer> how do I disable the pcmcia service on my desktop?
[02:12] <dungodung> Seveas: where's that exactly, (I forgot)
[02:12] <santiagokq> i fixed my problem of not being able to "sudo nautilus"... i had to comment the nopassw line in sudoers... then how do i configure nopassw now?
[02:12] <maikol> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:13] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: was that a Creative?
[02:13] <theine> TheHighChild: No joy?
[02:13] <dungodung> thx
[02:13] <TheHighChild> theine: It returns /dev/nvram  and   /dev/.static/dev/nvram
[02:13] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: this model doesn't have mass storage
[02:13] <andi5> bootlick: you can also deinstall hylafax, i guess
[02:13] <slavik> here's another problem, when I log in to my laptop, after gnome is done loading, X gets killed and I have to log in again, any ideas?
[02:13] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: sadly
[02:13] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: bummer, does it do mtp?
[02:13] <theine> TheHighChild: aha, so /dev/nvram *does* exist
[02:13] <Seveas> !pastebin
[02:13] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[02:13] <theine> TheHighChild: What's the output of "ls -l /dev/nvram" ?
[02:13] <andi5> ok... please tell ubotu to tell me the standard way to deactivate services not present in system->admin->services :) thanks in advance
[02:13] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: if it doesn't do mtp, you may have to search google for a nice package...
[02:14] <bootlick> andi5 I will do that, i cant figure out where these others are coming from
[02:14] <dungodung> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/761129
[02:14] <TheHighChild> theine: apparently I am retarded and was looking for a directory. i am very sorry
[02:14] <slavik> when I log in to my laptop, after gnome is done loading, X gets killed and I have to log in again, any ideas? so, if I reboot my laptop, I have to login twice ...
[02:14] <aleksander> #ubuntu-pl
[02:14] <theine> TheHighChild: No worries ;)
[02:14] <andreyv> whats the bootmenu program for the ubuntu cd?
[02:14] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: actually google said gnomad2 was the one
[02:14] <DBO> those look a-ok to me Seveas
[02:14] <TheHighChild> crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 144 2006-06-05 16:05 /dev/nvram
[02:14] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: unfortunately Ubuntu has a VERY old one
[02:15] <distanceisdeath> how can i uninstall a program???
[02:15] <theine> TheHighChild: OK, so /dev/nvram has the wrong permissions
[02:15] <DBO> distanceisdeath, sudo apt-get remove <program name>
[02:15] <Seveas> dungodung, those are a bit incomplete but should work
[02:15] <maikol> distanceisdeath: apt-get remove <program>
[02:15] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: and gnomad2 is isnt workin?
[02:15] <dungodung> Seveas: some of the commented ones made some troubles with apt-get
[02:15] <distanceisdeath> how can i tell if java is installed or not?
[02:15] <slavik> when I log in to my laptop, after gnome is done loading, X gets killed and I have to log in again, any ideas? so, if I reboot my laptop, I have to login twice ...
[02:16] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: have you tried a new version of gnomad2?
[02:16] <TheHighChild> theine: ok, do I need anything more than read to that?
[02:16] <jhenn> what kind of finance programs are available for ubuntu?
[02:16] <Madpilot> dungodung, have you run Automatix on that box?
[02:16] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: give me error
[02:16] <DBO> slavik, gdm log -> pastebin
[02:16] <theine> TheHighChild: Yes, you also need to write to it
[02:16] <Managu> theine: Not to be annoying, but why should /dev/nvram be readable or writable to anyone but root?  Seems anything else is very poor security
[02:16] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: "No jukeboxes found on USB bus"
[02:16] <dungodung> Madpilot: IIRC, yes
[02:16] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: don't know how to get a newer one
[02:16] <Madpilot> dungodung, ah, that would explain the very strange sources.list, then
[02:16] <CyberScript32> any person know a mirror with nvidia-glx*.deb?
[02:16] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: can you see anything in the device manager?
[02:17] <Clujo> to find out about java.. type javac
[02:17] <dungodung> Madpilot: heh... too transparent
[02:17] <theine> Managu: I agree, but better tell that to the kmilo maintainer
[02:17] <theine> TheHighChild: Try installing the tpb package
[02:17] <tttTravis> Hi, I just installed Dapper, I know its insecure but how do I create a user with no password?
[02:17] <bootlick> oi voi, reinstall time
[02:17] <DBO> dungodung, in the future no automatix, ok?
[02:18] <Weirdbro> mwe: Actually, the braindead thing was helpful, don't remove it
[02:18] <zerokarmaleft> logging in via GDM leads to gnome-session for an unspecified reason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15159...where can i go to trace what's causing it to bug out?  though stopping GDM and starting X from the console starts gnome-session without incident...
[02:18] <dungodung> DBO: ok :D
[02:18] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: nothing
[02:18] <TheHighChild> no password? lol, care to give me your IP in exchange for this info
[02:18] <_mek_> i got a harddrive from a friend, there is is no valid partition table, does anyone knows a tool which tries to rebuild a partition table by searching the harddrive for some kind of partition-fingerprint?
[02:18] <Madpilot> dungodung, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 <-- "official" sources.list for breezy, easier to read than your Automatix-created one
[02:18] <dungodung> Seveas: ok, it's done it's things without errors.. now to start synaptic and see what happened
[02:18] <Managu> tttTravis: "sudo passwd <username>".  Press enter twice
[02:18] <slavik> DBO: it catches signal 11
[02:18] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: hold on
[02:18] <TheHighChild> theine: Thanks a lot man, you really barrel. I appreciate your time and help. Sorry for being a boobie
[02:18] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: alright well grab the newest version of gnomad2: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=65573 and try to compile that...let me know if you need any help with that
[02:18] <Seveas> dungodung, try apt-get -F install
[02:18] <andi5> bootlick: maybe rcconf
[02:18] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga:?
[02:18] <Seveas> synaptic sometimes is vague about errors
[02:19] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: I actually see a Creative Zen Sleek there
[02:19] <amphi> Managu: here /dev/nvram is rw for root and the nvram group
[02:19] <bootlick> heh, too late,
[02:19] <slavik> DBO: I looked in /var/log/gdm/:0.log.4
[02:19] <bootlick> thanks andi5
[02:19] <theine> TheHighChild: Nothing to be sorry about. Glad I could help
[02:19] <jsestri2> alex_mayroga: ok good, try installinging the newest gnomad2
[02:19] <tttTravis> TheHighChild: nah thats ok theirs not SSH on this computer or anything that would let you access it from the outside, its justa  litttle box for my family and they don't want to have to be entering usernames and passwords on the login screen
[02:19] <dungodung> Seveas: 3 more broken packages (from earlier)! YOU ROCK! thanks very much
[02:19] <bootlick> a nice fresh install, and no open ports
[02:19] <tttTravis> Thanks Managu I will try that
[02:19] <gnomefreak> ok heres something i found strange i installed flight 4 server install (isue with desktop cd and nvidia) anyway after installing it i installed ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop among other things after doing upgates  and gnome-screensaver nor x-screensaver was installed is this normal <i thought gnome-screensaver was always a depends of ubuntu-desktop>
[02:19] <bootlick> kinda the easy way out
[02:19] <Seveas> dungodung, yw 
[02:20] <TheHighChild> ttttravis: gotcha, I was just playing but what managu said is right
[02:20] <DBO> slavik, think you can get them on pastebin?
[02:20] <tttTravis> Managu: I get No password supplied
[02:20] <slavik> all of them?
[02:20] <dungodung> Seveas: oh wait... these packages all have a whole bunch of programs tied to them
[02:20] <Managu> tttTravis: you'll have to enter your password at the first prompt =p
[02:20] <DBO> slavik, the past two
[02:20] <lakcaj> Seveas: how do you make that special character?
[02:20] <raks> my desktop takes a really long time at startup at the mounting root file system step, is this normal? it takes about 30 seconds. is this because i have an ntfs partition that needs to mounted aswell?
[02:20] <moparfan90> hello.
[02:20] <Managu> tttTravis: then it'll ask you for the password for <username>, and to repeat said password.  Just press enter for both prompts
[02:20] <theine> tttTravis: I believe you can set up the login manager so that it automatically logs in a certain user
[02:20] <raks> or is there something else i can do
[02:21] <dungodung> Seveas: so if I uninstall them, all things could go crazy
[02:21] <tttTravis> theine: this is a multi user box though
[02:21] <Seveas> dungodung, apt-get -F install
[02:21] <Seveas> and output on the pastebin
[02:21] <dungodung> Seveas: again, errors
[02:21] <theine> tttTravis: ah, I see
[02:21] <Rhine> What plugin do I install to play MP3 in Amarok?
[02:21] <tttTravis> Managu still doesn't work
[02:21] <baumer> how do you disable a service in ubuntu? I'm used to using chkconfig on RH and FC
[02:21] <slavik> DBO: I can get them all, there are 0.log, 0.log.1 (through 4) and 20.log.1
[02:21] <m1ndsurfer> Dumb question: I've boot off the 6.06 livecd and installed the fglrx packages to get my ATI card talking to my Dell 2005fpw properly; if I reboot, they'll be gone, won't they?
[02:21] <tttTravis> Managu: http://pastebin.com/761134
[02:21] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Rhine -about mp3
[02:21] <moparfan90> im trying to install 6.6 and i cant edit my windows partition  to be smaller. any segestions?
[02:21] <TheHighChild> mindsurfer: yes
[02:21] <DBO> slavik, 0.log and 0.log.1 are fine
[02:21] <jvai> nice graphics, crystal clear
[02:21] <Seveas> dungodung, I expected errors and want to analyze them ;)
[02:21] <_jason> ubotu: tell Rhine about mp3
[02:21] <tttTravis> on the login screen I have it set up right now so they just click on their name, but it still prompts them for a password
[02:21] <dungodung> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/761135
[02:21] <gnomefreak> Rhine: it should say it on that page its something you wouldnt think would help
[02:21] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: vendor, device, device type and Capabilies appear as Unknown though
[02:22] <bimberi> baumer: sudo update-rc.d -f foo remove
[02:22] <slavik> ok
[02:22] <jvai> niiice
[02:22] <baumer> bimberi: thanks!
[02:22] <jbzy3000> thanks for all the help
[02:22] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: have you tried installing the newer version of gnomad2?
[02:22] <bimberi> baumer: np :) there's also a gui called bum (boot up manager)
[02:22] <Seveas> dungodung, not too hard to fix
[02:22] <m1ndsurfer> TheHighChild: Damn. I'm going to have to repartition and install properly if I want any changes/newly installed packages to "stick", aren't I/
[02:22] <jbzy3000> i have ndiswrapper installed but cant seem to install the hardware wusb54g v2
[02:22] <Seveas> hang on a sec
[02:22] <dungodung> Seveas: glad to hear
[02:22] <jhenn> what are some personal finance programs for ubuntu?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> jhenn: gnucash
[02:23] <lakcaj> gnu-cash
[02:23] <TheHighChild> mindsurfer: Yes. The boot cd will only keeps changes until the next reboot
[02:23] <andi5> jhenn: well....try gnucash 1.9.6 :)
[02:23] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: negative, don't know how =(
[02:23] <jbzy3000> i find it on lsusb
[02:23] <Managu> tttTravis: well, that's annoying.  Another, more error-prone method is to edit /etc/shadow.  The random letters on each line are a password hash; if you get rid of all the characters between the ":"'s in that field, the user will have a blank password
[02:23] <Seveas> dungodung, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-i686_2.3.5-1ubuntu12_i386.deb
[02:23] <jbzy3000> but i cant install the drivers
[02:23] <TheHighChild> mindsurfer: It's worth it though to do a perm install.
[02:23] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: I'll help you...follow this link....http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=65573
[02:23] <Managu> tttTravis: if you mess up, you could potentially make it so that noone can log in
[02:23] <jbzy3000> sorry hardware
[02:23] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: also my system is upgrading to 6.06 now
[02:23] <gnomefreak> jhenn: there are more that is the most popular as you can see ;)
[02:23] <jhenn> gnomefreak: anything elses?
[02:23] <dungodung> Seveas: ok...
[02:23] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: oh wait for that to finish first
[02:23] <gnomefreak> jhenn: yeah i just dont know thier names off hand
[02:23] <Seveas> dungodung, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libkrb53_1.3.6-4_i386.deb
[02:23] <andi5> jhenn: grisbi, kmymoney
[02:24] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: I'm pretty much loocked now right?
[02:24] <m1ndsurfer> TheHighChild: Yeah, it means I have to piss about repartitioning though. Got Fedora Core 3 on there currently.
[02:24] <tttTravis> Managu meh if it messes up no big deal
[02:24] <moparfan90> anyone know how i can make my windows partition
[02:24] <moparfan90> i cant in the 6.6 install
[02:24] <Seveas> dungodung, please install those two .deb files
[02:24] <tttTravis> I can always reinstall
[02:24] <bimberi> lakcaj: applications -> accessories -> Character Map (katakana) 
[02:24] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: thanks I'll read in the mean time
[02:24] <dungodung> Seveas: via dpkg -i?
[02:24] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: well not techincally...but yes
[02:24] <TheHighChild> mindsurfer: You only need, I think, 3 GB for an install. Just a thought
[02:24] <Seveas> dungodung, yes
[02:24] <waxon> I know it has probably been asked but is anyone else having a problem with "unable to create `./usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2" I have the ATI driver installed so x is working but I have dep problems that cant be fixed because of it.. any help would be appreciated. (upgrade from Breezy)
[02:24] <jvai> ok
[02:24] <dungodung> Seveas: ok, wait a bit
[02:24] <Seveas> dungodung, and after installing them, do this: sudo dpkg --remove libapache2-mod-php5
[02:24] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: I would bother you if I gind any other blockers on my way, hope you don't mind
[02:25] <jbzy3000> anyone know how ti install a wireless usb adapter
[02:25] <lakcaj> bimberi: cool - thanks 
[02:25] <gnomefreak> jhenn: myphpmoney kmymoney2
[02:25] <TheHighChild> theine: is there any chance of confluct between the nvram module and the tpb?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> those are 2 that apt-cache money found but im sure there are more
[02:25] <tttTravis> Mangu that seems to have actually worked
[02:25] <tttTravis> thanks
[02:25] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: not a problem
[02:25] <Managu> tttTravis: np
[02:25] <gimmulf> Hmm i just by mistake ran an rm command on a text file, is there any way getting it back? :)
[02:25] <TheHighChild> newb Question: How do I send messages to people in red. I know, I am teh suck
[02:25] <slavik> DBO: http://pastebin.com/761144
[02:25] <gnomefreak> gimmulf: did you make a back up before doing that?
[02:26] <DBO> gimmulf, nope
[02:26] <andi5> gimmulf: rewrite it...
[02:26] <slavik> DBO: both logs are in the paste
[02:26] <gimmulf> :)
[02:26] <zerokarmaleft> logging in via GDM leads to gnome-session failing to start for an unspecified reason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15159...and the gdm log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15160.   stopping GDM and starting X from the console starts gnome-session without incident...
[02:26] <gnomefreak> gimmulf: also depends what file it was
[02:26] <theine> TheHighChild: No, I don't think so
[02:26] <gimmulf> gnomefreak:  an .rhtml file
[02:26] <dungodung> Seveas: done it all; -f install shows no errors!!! I'm officially saved. thanks again
[02:26] <jonkan> any one god at wifi problem?
[02:26] <Seveas> dungodung, glad I could help 
[02:27] <moparfan90> Seveas, can you help me? i am trying to install 6.6 and in the installer i cant edit the size of my windows partition to be smaller. any suggestions?
[02:27] <theine> TheHighChild: tpb conveniently sets up the nvram device I think
[02:27] <bimberi> TheHighChild: by using their nick in your post
[02:27] <gnomefreak> gimmulf: alot of the ~/. files are re-made when logging into the program
[02:27] <TheHighChild> bimberi: Does this work? lol
[02:27] <dungodung> Seveas: :DDD and here these guys wanted me to do such an unlinuxlike thing - reinstall
[02:27] <raks> any recommendations for an FTP server?
[02:27] <Seveas> moparfan90, yes, simply reformat it. Windows begone 
[02:27] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: I guess it's better to close everything while updating right?
[02:27] <bimberi> TheHighChild: yep (except it's orange for me :P )
[02:27] <snowball> Anyone know how I can tell ubuntu installer to look for the install files on /dev/hda5 instead of my cdrom device?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> gimmulf: like if you delete the ~/.gnome file restart gnome it should show back up (that doesnt mean try it)
[02:27] <TheHighChild> nice! Thanks
[02:28] <Seveas> (moparfan90, sorry, don't have a more constructive answer)
[02:28] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: nope, dosent matter
[02:28] <slavik> jonkan: if I was god of wifi problems, there wouldn't be any :P
[02:28] <gimmulf> gnomefreak:  oki thanks
[02:28] <waxon> I know it has probably been asked but is anyone else having a problem with "unable to create `./usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2" from the libgl1-mesa package. I have the ATI driver installed so x is working but I have dep problems that cant be fixed because of it.. any help would be appreciated. (upgrade from Breezy)
[02:28] <moparfan90> seveas, yes i would do that but until i get cedega to work i want a back up of my games
[02:28] <slavik> DBO: http://pastebin.com/761144 ... both logs are there
[02:28] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: playing it safe would say yes though
[02:28] <Managu> moparfan90: I could be wrong, but last I checked, using qparted to edit NTFS partitions was a very bad idea (data loss nearly guaranteed).  That said, if you defragment your ntfs filesystem, you might be able to shrink it more
[02:28] <DBO> slavik, i know, but they dont tell me anything helpful =P
[02:28] <slavik> waxon: remove the ati driver ...
[02:28] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: safe is for faint of heart =)
[02:28] <andi5> raks: wsftpd? i think there is some about it in some ubuntu doc ..... click the white question mark on the blue circular ground at the top ;-)
[02:28] <slavik> DBO: know who I could ask?
[02:29] <jonkan> slavik, haha =D
[02:29] <pav0s`0n> help wind0ws wrote to mne mrb how do i boot my ubuntu now?
[02:29] <slavik> DBO: it started happening after I had to install a new kernel after a kernel panic
[02:29] <moparfan90> Managu, it wont let me make the partition smaller at all.... i have a 32gb partitions and theres only 15gb data
[02:29] <Managu> moparfan90: also, while the free tools don't do a good job for that particular task, there are some inexpensive commercial tools that you might try.  Partition Magic worked well back in the day.
[02:29] <bimberi> pav0s`0n: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:29] <pav0s`0n> haha nice one TY
[02:29] <DBO> slavik, running proprietary drivers?
[02:29] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: yep
[02:29] <waxon> Slavik .. tired that .. I still have the same problems -- but i dont have X. I have tried aptitude to remove and reinstall from console also.. no go ..
[02:30] <jonkan> can i uninstall ubuntus wlan driver and install ndiswrapper drivers?
[02:30] <bimberi> pav0s`0n: yw, the url says it all :)
[02:30] <dou213> hey i'm still on beta 2 version, i did "sudp apt-get update" .. what now ? "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" for dapper LTS?
[02:30] <slavik> DBO: yes
[02:30] <DBO> slavik, how did you install it?
[02:30] <pav0s`0n> bimbery true ^^
[02:30] <slavik> by creating debs and then compiling the kernel module
[02:30] <andreyv> how do u mod the initrd to allow  2+ distros on one cd/dvd
[02:31] <TheHighChild> theine: LOL, it kills kubuntu-desktop
[02:31] <andreyv> ubuntu netboot ix86+x64
[02:31] <dungodung> bye all
[02:31] <prammy> just installed Dapper LTS on 2 laptops , the atheros wifi card is autodetected and configurable on install ! :-)
[02:31] <DBO> slavik, how do you feel about reinstalling those huh?
[02:31] <DBO> slavik, and not from the deb
[02:31] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: what to do in the mean while, got 2 hours while upgrade finishes
[02:31] <theine> TheHighChild: What kills it?
[02:32] <TheHighChild> theine: tpb
[02:32] <floriank> hi
[02:32] <theine> TheHighChild: Did you launch tpb?
[02:32] <slavik> DBO: I used the installer to create the debs
[02:32] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: jesus, slow connection?
[02:32] <moua> hopla
[02:32] <DBO> slavik, fair to assume you are not running a standard kernel?
[02:32] <TheHighChild> theine: Couldn't get that far. when i tried to install it, it started removed all my kde apps. I couldn't have that and killed it
[02:32] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: you can download that source from the link i gave you...otherwise sit tight, you might want to write down directions i probably won't be on later
[02:32] <slavik> the 686 one
[02:33] <waxon> I started with the system update utility in ubuntu.. when x would not start and mesa would not install i happend to have the atidriver so i installed it.. X is working with the ati driver but still 25 dependeny problems (broken) it all comes down to the mesa-dev files not being able to install.. there are similar problems on the board.. I was hoping there was a fix for it here already :)
[02:33] <burzum_> i have a nvidia 7800gt which driver should id install to get best 3d performance? "nv" is atm in the xorg.conf
[02:33] <TheHighChild> nvidia-glx
[02:33] <DBO> !nvidia
[02:33] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[02:33] <hou5ton> I've downloaded Dapper twice ... same result ... when I put in the CD with windows running, I get the live CD options ... but when I reboot, it loads things, and then I get a black screen with only the mouse pointer on it
[02:33] <burzum_> ok, thanks
[02:33] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: 54 kbps
[02:33] <theine> TheHighChild: Hmm, I didn't expect that...
[02:33] <theine> TheHighChild: Maybe tpb conflicts with kmilo
[02:33] <TheHighChild> theine: no idea. Gonna play around with it. Thanks again for barreling so much!
[02:34] <voraistos> easyubuntu installs nvidia ATI or whatever u want easily too
[02:34] <DBO> slavik, do an install from the linux-restricted-modules for me =)
[02:34] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: i hate slow inet
[02:34] <theine> TheHighChild: np
[02:34] <gnomefreak> burzum_: use nvidia driver not nv
[02:34] <slavik> DBO: ati drivers ...
[02:34] <DBO> slavik, actually, better yet
[02:34] <bimberi> hou5ton: iirc there are some boot options that allow you to modify the graphics (something like vga=771 or the like) - you can hit F1 at the boot prompt to find out what they are
[02:34] <JP__> is it possible to mount HFS formated drives in Ubuntu?
[02:34] <DBO> slavik, switch back to the ati driver in xorg.conf and see if you get the issue still
[02:34] <DBO> slavik, afaik the fglrx drivers are in l-r-m
[02:34] <slavik> l-r-m?
[02:35] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: same here
[02:35] <DBO> linux-restricted-modules
[02:35] <slavik> oh, right
[02:35] <andi5> JP__: maybe by modprobing hfs? tell me whether it works :)
[02:35] <lufis> What's the highest quality, anal-retentive, audiophile approved CD ripper for U
[02:35] <lufis> Linux?
[02:35] <DBO> slavik, but switch back to the ati driver, and see if you still have the issue
[02:35] <hou5ton> bimberi: I'll try that ...  what did you mean by iirc?
[02:35] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: well, you probably don't have gcc yet, so once you finish your upgrade...you will have to "apt-get install build-essentials"
[02:35] <DBO> lufis, anything that does flac
[02:35] <Madpilot> lufis, use SoundJuicer to rip to FLAC
[02:35] <bimberi> hou5ton: "if i recall correctly" :)
[02:36] <hou5ton> thanks
[02:36] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: taking notes
[02:36] <lufis> DBO, Madpilot: Flac is a little overkill I think. I like high bitrate vorbis.
[02:36] <lufis> But something like EAC for Linux?
[02:36] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: then you will have to make gnomad2, which will most likely be making a driver/module, so you will also need kernel-headers-($uname -r)
[02:36] <johnm10192> I've got a dell optiplex GX 1 that upon boot of the install CD -- makes it to loading the X server, then sometime while the desktop is initializing the thing locks including the mouse, with just a brown background -- nothin on the screen -- thoughts?  Can i get the old text based installer?
[02:36] <slavik> DBO: quick question, if I have a wifi card in the pcmcia slot ... how do I load the module for it?
[02:36] <Madpilot> lufis, so do I, but you asked about highest quality insane-audiophile stuff ;)
[02:37] <DBO> slavik, sudo modprobe <module name>
[02:37] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: you can figure out what ($uname -r) is by typing uname -r at the command line, and you will have to apt-get install kernel-heards-($uname -r)
[02:37] <gnomefreak> johnm10192: get the alternative cd (that is texted-based installer)
[02:37] <johnm10192> gnomefreak, ok
[02:37] <lufis> Madpilot: ;) Well, what's the best ripper?
[02:37] <slavik> DBO: how can I find out the proper modula name? it's a TI card
[02:37] <Madpilot> lufis, I've always just used SoundJuicer, it's included by default in Ubuntu and it's reliable
[02:37] <slavik> ti acx 100
[02:37] <andi5> lufis: i like cdparanoia, but maybe there are better alternatives by now
[02:38] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: as far as compiling gnomad2 goes it might just work, it might not, but if you run into trouble, check that you are compiling with the right headers, and you will also have to have root permissions to install it
[02:38] <UzzaDead> anyone have problems with amaroK not playing files?
[02:38] <Adamant1988> so... HOW intrusive are these bugs I read about on Distrowatch?  I'm considering using Ubuntu or Kubuntu for my desktop after linspire had a problem with my sound card... I was warned to stay away from 6.06
[02:38] <lufis> Madpilot, andi5: Cool, thanks
[02:38] <UzzaDead> Adamant1988, stay away from the AMD 64 version :)
[02:38] <lufis> UzzaDead: You may need to set the output to ALSA
[02:38] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: you should be able to do something like "make" then "sudo make install" to build and install gnomad2
[02:38] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: so far seems doable
[02:38] <UzzaDead> lufis,  i'll give that a go
[02:38] <Adamant1988> Well I have a 32 bit lol.  Is it the 64 bit that is broken?
[02:38] <andi5> lufis: oh, i thought you have meant good == quality of ripped material :)
[02:39] <stevekl> All three of my machines are now running dapper ^__________^
[02:39] <DBO> slavik, pcimodules might tell you
[02:39] <UzzaDead> Adamant1988, well they're all broken to a point but 32bit is not bad at all
[02:39] <Fujitsu> Great, stevekl.
[02:39] <gnomefreak> Adamant1988: 64 bit is fully supported by ubuntu
[02:39] <UzzaDead> no worse than windows
[02:39] <Adamant1988> Yeah what are the specifics on these breaks? I have add and just skimmed the article
[02:39] <lufis> andi5: Well, yeah that too. I love high quality Vorbis, it usually does the job of transparency. I just want a program that can handle ripping well
[02:39] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: if you have trouble anywhere it will be with the building of gnomad2
[02:39] <UzzaDead> i highly recommend 6.06 Adamant1988 :)
[02:39] <gnomefreak> Adamant1988: the issues people have with 64bit and ppc are the non-free things
[02:39] <JP__> is it possible to mount HFS formatted disks in x86 ubuntu?
[02:40] <UzzaDead> JP__, yes as far as i know
[02:40] <Adamant1988> I don't mind non-free, in fact I enjoy it. My laptop runs Linspire.
[02:40] <AK7> I now this isn't your department, but everyone in #xubuntu has died...
[02:40] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: it won't show up in the start menu either so either make a shortcut on the desktop, or make a startmenu item...i dont think either is super difficult
[02:40] <voraistos> amphi: talking about encoding, isnt there anything better?(than mencoder) (i mean, i am thinking about vmwaring just for that ;) )
[02:40] <UzzaDead> Adamant1988, go for kubuntu
[02:40] <AK7> they know more bout xubuntu?
[02:40] <AK7> it's about compiz actually
[02:40] <gnomefreak> Adamant1988: non-free like opera mp3-stuff things like that but running ubuntu is fine
[02:40] <SoulPropagation> Has anyone in here seen Vista? It seriously is good enough to make me worry about the future of Ubuntu
[02:40] <Adamant1988> Yeah, I like Kubuntu a bit better... how is the support for ATI cards?
[02:41] <AK7> Soulprop: it only takes 15gigs of hard drive space, no less
[02:41] <BioVorE> SoulPropagation: ubuntu isn't going to dissapear
[02:41] <Adamant1988> Soulpropagation. It requires 512 megs of ram just to get it to boot
[02:41] <Madpilot> Adamant1988, generally pretty good
[02:41] <gnomefreak> Adamant1988: ubuntu has drivers for it
[02:41] <UzzaDead> lufis, still no go it jus rapidly goes through the playlist without a hint of sound but xmms works fine
[02:41] <AK7> and 1 gig of ram if you want to, you know, actually do anything
[02:41] <lufis> SoulPropagation: I wouldn't worry about that ;). MS's philosophy of security is dumbing everything down and asking the user fifteen times if they're sure they want to do something
[02:41] <Adamant1988> I've played with Vista, and I can tell you it'll hurt microsoft more than it helps
[02:41] <voraistos> SoulPropagation: i have seen it, and the future of Ubuntu is safe ;)
[02:41] <linxeh> SoulPropagation: vista is overhyped rubbish that most people will only buy because it comes on new pcs as standard
[02:41] <UzzaDead> Adamant1988, much anger?
[02:41] <Fujitsu> Adamant1988, hopefully.
[02:41] <linxeh> pretty much like XP
[02:41] <lufis> UzzaDead: Are they MP3s?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> SoulPropagation: please talk about vista in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:41] <UzzaDead> lufis, yes they are
[02:42] <Adamant1988> Ok, Take this into consideration
[02:42] <AK7> but MS is getting the distro concept down. Now they're up to 6- only a few hundred more and they'll catch up with linux
[02:42] <lufis> UzzaDead: ah, then you need the libxine-extracodecs package
[02:42] <kholerabbi> WHen was ubuntu first released?
[02:42] <Adamant1988> Microsoft NEVER releases a finished os
[02:42] <Adamant1988> NEVER
[02:42] <SoulPropagation> 10/1/04
[02:42] <DBO> !offtopic
[02:42] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:42] <UzzaDead> lufis, amaroK doesnt do mp3 by default?
[02:42] <linxeh> Adamant1988: no software is ever finished
[02:42] <alex_mayorga> jsestri2: seems fair to me
[02:42] <gnomefreak> UzzaDead: no
[02:42] <lufis> UzzaDead: No
[02:42] <UzzaDead> dont i feel like a noob now :)
[02:42] <Adamant1988> Linxeh, what I mean is that they release Betaware
[02:43] <andi5> UzzaDead: do not do that :)
[02:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell UzzaDead -about mp3
[02:43] <Adamant1988> and then they just patch it as problems arise.
[02:43] <linxeh> Adamant1988: so is most open source software - but this is #ubuntu-offtopic material
[02:43] <voraistos> Adamant1988: nope 95 was pretty good. 2000 too
[02:43] <jsestri2> alex_mayorga: think you can do all that? have you compiled stuff before?
[02:43] <lufis> UzzaDead: Do you know how to change the repositories in Synaptic?
[02:43] <alex_mayorga> I guess many of us would benefit for an MP3 dummy guide
[02:43] <yipe> how do I know if I have the correct graphics card drivers?
[02:43] <linxeh> voraistos: 95 was *poor*
[02:43] <Adamant1988> ok back on topic...
[02:43] <gnomefreak> voraistos: and everyone else bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:43] <linxeh> Adamant1988: a bit like apple with osx then
[02:43] <UzzaDead> lufis, i dont even have synaptics on this
[02:43] <SoulPropagation> What I was hinting at was "what can we do to get Ubuntu on track with Vista"
[02:43] <UzzaDead> im on kubuntu
[02:43] <UzzaDead> i've got adept
[02:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell alex_mayorga about mp3
[02:43] <Adamant1988> haha yeah.
[02:43] <lufis> UzzaDead: Ah, sorry. Adept, then?
[02:43] <UzzaDead> yep, already changed em too :)
[02:43] <AK7> anyway... compiz...
[02:43] <lufis> UzzaDead: Can you change the repositories there?
[02:44] <Adamant1988> Uzzadead is kubuntu that much of a difference? I like the blue theme, but I'm lookign for a COMPLETE desktop solution
[02:44] <SoulPropagation> To #ubuntu-offtopic! (I apologize. I hate it when people are doing this when I want help)
[02:44] <yipe> I have an Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02), and I don't think I have the right drivers
[02:44] <AK7> they mention gnome repos in there, which I don't mind using (I'm running xubuntu)
[02:44] <Madpilot> SoulPropagation, what, you want Ubuntu to have stupidly high hardware requirements, be vulnerable to malware, and crash a lot? l(
[02:44] <UzzaDead> Adamant1988, personally i like KDE more than Gnome which is the major differences..
[02:44] <Madpilot> ;)
[02:44] <AK7> but will it work if I just follow the same directions as a gnome user?
[02:44] <wykd> does anybody know how to check the status of tv capture cards in 6.06 LTS? I need to check if my WinTV go card was detected
[02:44] <MisterN> wykd: dmesg is a good start
[02:44] <lufis> UzzaDead: The package is in multiverse
[02:44] <skippy81> wykd, "lspci" should list it
[02:44] <UzzaDead> doh
[02:45] <UzzaDead> i feel like a noob again
[02:45] <Adamant1988> Uzzadead can I pm you?
[02:45] <SoulPropagation> Madpilot: Considering its high hardware reqs, it's incredibly snappy on my 3-year-old custom
[02:45] <UzzaDead> Adamant1988, go ahead
[02:45] <UzzaDead> lufis, backports?
[02:45] <wykd> yes, it appears to be listed! thanks! now how can I tell what input device it is (video0, video1, etc)
[02:45] <waxon> I know it has probably been asked but is anyone else having a problem with "unable to create `./usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2" from the libgl1-mesa package. I have the ATI driver installed so x is working but I have dep problems that cant be fixed because of it.. any help would be appreciated. (upgrade from Breezy) There are similar problems on the boards if you search for libgl1
[02:45] <lufis> UzzaDead: Actually, I don't know. I just enabled multiverse on all of them to be sure.
[02:46] <UzzaDead> lol lufis i'll try that then
[02:46] <lufis> UzzaDead: ;)
[02:46] <skippy81> waxon - where does this message get shown? synaptic?
[02:46] <freezer> is it possible to change the spin-direction of my cpu fan without flip it?
[02:46] <waxon> yes ..or on apt-get or aptitude.. all produce the same problem
[02:47] <skippy81> freezer, not in software, fans are designed to spin one way only - so even if you could reverse the polarity it would wear the fan out
[02:47] <AK7> Freezer: If you can get to the leads, switch positive and negative and pray there isn't a diode.
[02:47] <tttTravis> why are the ubuntu respositories so slow right now? I am only getting like 60kb/s down
[02:47] <Madpilot> tttTravis, which mirror?
[02:47] <tttTravis> us
[02:47] <skippy81> freezer:  you i guess if your feeling dangerous you could swap the polarity yourself, but your risking a CPU by doing it
[02:48] <andi5> tttTravis: expect everybody downloading from it
[02:48] <Adamant1988> UzzaDead do these bugs effect Kubuntu as well?
[02:48] <Madpilot> tttTravis, hmm, us archive has had problems in the past, not sure if it's been sorted or not.
[02:48] <tttTravis> oh why did they release some updates?
[02:48] <freezer> mh yes, that was also my thought, swap + und -
[02:48] <UzzaDead> bugs?
[02:48] <andreyv> how can u get 2 ubuntu netboot installs (2 archs) on 1 cd
[02:48] <Adamant1988> the ones in dapper 6.06
[02:48] <AK7> so, um, does anyone know if the compiz install guide can work in xubuntu or just gnome?
[02:48] <Adamant1988> for ubuntu
[02:48] <freezer> but does this work with every fan motor?
[02:48] <wykd> how do I check the status of and restart/start the mysql server?
[02:48] <andi5> anyone having a problem with the update of tetex-base too?
[02:48] <andreyv> cuz i want to make a multiboot cd
[02:48] <UzzaDead> lufis, its still not finding it
[02:49] <crimsun> wykd: invoke-rc.d mysql status
[02:49] <tttTravis> wykd: /etc/init.d/mysql status
[02:49] <tttTravis> that works too
[02:49] <andreyv> for x86/x64
[02:49] <skippy81> andreyv:  i didnt think there way a netboot CD availiable - i guess you could used dbootstrap from a live CD to do it
[02:49] <waxon> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa_6.4.1-0ubuntu8_i386.deb: unable to create `./usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2'
[02:49] <waxon>    error message from synaptic.
[02:49] <crimsun> andi5: should be fine if you have -updates enabled.
[02:49] <slavik> dbo, ati or radeon module doesn't work
[02:49] <andi5> crimsun: args, i guess i do not have that
[02:49] <meta-ridley> anyone using bcm43xx with ppc?
[02:49] <kholerabbi> How come the livecd is now on the same disc as the install cd? Dose that meen it will install less packages?
[02:49] <andi5> crimsun: thanks
[02:49] <freezer> skippy81: the power supply is nearly over the cpu fan...so atm the cpu fan 'sucks' warm heat from the power supply
[02:49] <lufis> UzzaDead: Hmm... try googling "amarok mp3"
[02:49] <ucpalx> i'm not used to gnome - how do i get to a root shell - a normal shell gives me access denied when i try to apt-get update
[02:49] <UzzaDead> alright
[02:49] <skippy81> kholerabbi: no, its the same install
[02:50] <AK7> kholerabbi: All it is is making the install graphical
[02:50] <freezer> skippy81: so i think power supply fan and cpu fan working a little bit against each other..
[02:50] <DBO> slavik, no diff huh?
[02:50] <Managu> ucpalx: !sudo
[02:50] <ucpalx> !sudo
[02:50] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:50] <andreyv> can u put kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu (*all* i386 *and* x64) netboot installs on 1 cd and how
[02:50] <UzzaDead> lufis, if its not too much trouble could you give me the name etc of the repository and i'll manually add it
[02:50] <burzum_> re
[02:50] <pvd2006> Looks like Ubuntu is getting more popular, I remember there use to be like 700 people at most.
[02:50] <skippy81> freezer:  yeah i have the same situation in my case, but im sure that a CPU fan needs to blow down onto the core to be effective
[02:51] <ucpalx> Managu: thanks man
[02:51] <bimberi> kholerabbi: no, the live installer (ubiquity) basically copies the livecd filesystem on to your hard disk
[02:51] <Managu> n
[02:51] <Managu> p
[02:51] <UzzaDead> skippy81, freezer dont make the cpu fan suck air instead of blowing, bad things happen
[02:51] <eugman> pvd2006, The upgrade probably repsarked intrest as well.
[02:51] <icculus> Hey, is FUSE enabled in 6.06's default kernel?
[02:51] <UzzaDead> personal experience :)
[02:51] <linxeh> pvd2006: ubuntu is massive now
[02:51] <Madpilot> pvd2006, it's been over 800 since Dapper released; it was almost to 1000 a few days ago
[02:51] <andreyv> how do u put ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu on the same dvd?
[02:51] <burzum_> i have another disk /dev/sdb1 and its corretly displayed as "/storage" in nautilus when i choose "computer" but i get an errormsg when i want to access it
[02:52] <andreyv> o and all three have x86 and x64 arch
[02:52] <andreyv> any help?
[02:52] <pvd2006> hmm 3 bootable Oses on one cd?
[02:52] <pvd2006> dvd*
[02:52] <andreyv> cd if ure net-installing
[02:52] <inrelief> i *heart* dapper drake
[02:53] <eugman> I <3 Dapper
[02:53] <tttTravis> I like dapper except for the lack of packages in the respositories
[02:53] <freezer> UzzaDead: why should it be bad if the power supply fan blows the hot air out?
[02:53] <eugman> Hey your that guy making icenterx, right?
[02:53] <Madpilot> tttTravis, lack of packages? 18,000 isn't enough for you?
[02:53] <linxeh> tttTravis: what about universe ?
[02:53] <andreyv> or multiverse (non oss)
[02:53] <tttTravis> Madpilot well it seems like a lot of the packages I need arn't their
[02:53] <tttTravis> like phpmyadmin
[02:53] <inrelief> w/universe and multiverse
[02:54] <inrelief> it's got everything
[02:54] <tttTravis> dialog
[02:54] <inrelief> and then some ;)
[02:54] <tttTravis> I enabled them I Think
[02:54] <tttTravis> oh
[02:54] <tttTravis> oops
[02:54] <BioVorE> tttTravis: phpadmin is php script you doanload and run on a webserver
[02:54] <skippy81> freezer imagine getting a big fan and standing in front of it, and then behind it.  You will be cooler in front of it
[02:54] <tttTravis> god I am dumb
[02:54] <tttTravis> I enabled backports not universe
[02:54] <UzzaDead> freezer, because in most cases it creates a vacuum and no air goes through the fins resulting in a higher temperature
[02:54] <waxon> I know it has probably been asked but is anyone else having a problem with "unable to create `./usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2" from the libgl1-mesa package. I have the ATI driver installed so x is working but I have dep problems that cant be fixed because of it.. any help would be appreciated. (upgrade from Breezy) There are similar problems on the boards if you search for libgl1 - This is the error message from synaptic. E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa_6.
[02:54] <waxon> 4.1-0ubuntu8_i386.deb: unable to create `./usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2'  - Any help is appreciated.
[02:54] <Madpilot> tttTravis, you want Universe & Multiverse enabled
[02:54] <tttTravis> yep got it now
[02:55] <linxeh> tttTravis: phpmyadmin is in either multiverse or universe
[02:55] <UzzaDead> i had two fans in the front of my case sucking cool air in across the cpu with the cpu fan reversed sucking the air out and towards the power supply fan then exiting the case, didnt work well
[02:55] <tttTravis> linxeh doesn't apprear to be but thats no big deal
[02:55] <tttTravis> I can just install that
[02:55] <andreyv> whats the trick to multidistro cd/dvd
[02:55] <freezer> UzzaDead: this case really suxx, power supply is 1cm over the cpu fan and covers it ~50%....
[02:55] <skippy81> i just keep the side panel off my case :) i have to hoover the dust out frequently though :)
[02:56] <andreyv> o and any1 kno the irc for suse
[02:56] <skippy81> freezer it shouldnt matter i dont think - check your temps
[02:56] <gnomefreak> andreyv: try #suse
[02:56] <linxeh> tttTravis: well I can do "apt-get install phpmyadmin" just fine
[02:56] <UzzaDead> wow that does suck freezer :)
[02:56] <freezer> yes..
[02:56] <skippy81> freezer: you could always get a 90 degree fan
[02:57] <skippy81> what processor are you using anyway freezer? is it a P4?
[02:57] <kholerabbi> #suse?
[02:57] <andreyv> omfg freenode has 3207 channels
[02:57] <freezer> the its an midi tower, but the power supply turned 90
[02:57] <Andy> having trouble with orinoco gold b/g card, any anyone help
[02:57] <andreyv> now im in #ubuntu and #suse
[02:57] <dk> Hello, I want to mount a samba share and make it accessable for all users. Why does "mount -t cifs -o user=xyz,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 ..." result in "drwxrwx--x 31 dm ..." and not "drwxrwxrwx root"?
[02:57] <linxeh> andreyv: and this is big or small ? :)
[02:58] <andreyv> help with ubuntu multidistro
[02:58] <freezer> skippy81: xp2000+
[02:58] <andreyv> first
[02:58] <linxeh> andreyv: some networks, eg Quakenet have over 200,000 channels (and 200,000 lamers)
[02:58] <Andy> intel 2200 b/g card help
[02:58] <skippy81> i used to have an athlon xp freezer, unless you overclock them they run fairly cool
[02:58] <andreyv> y not liquidcooling
[02:58] <skippy81> you should be allright - just keep an eye on temps, i think you want to be below 60 degrees
[02:58] <andi5> crimsun: i have dapper-updates, but the update does not work, fails while running fmtutil-sys
[02:58] <UzzaDead> why not phase change cooling :)
[02:59] <andreyv> liquidcooling
[02:59] <crimsun> andi5: pastebin the error
[02:59] <freezer> skippy81: ya i will do this
[02:59] <UzzaDead> -45c is pretty chilly :D
[02:59] <skippy81> lol
[02:59] <UzzaDead> we're probably talking instant frostbite lol
[02:59] <andreyv> ...when the computer isnt doing overclock/gl/benchmark/...
[02:59] <hanasaki> how do i add my email to a bug so that i get reports as its workd on?
[02:59] <skippy81> i saw a cool video of a guy running a CPU without a heatsink, it vaporised in 3 seconds :)
[03:00] <andreyv> lol
[03:00] <hanasaki> what cpu skippy81
[03:00] <freezer> skippy81: while the power supply covers parts of the cpu fan, im a little bit afraid it would suck the hot air that is the power supplys case ;p
[03:00] <andreyv> athlon probs
[03:00] <skippy81> hanasaki:  a duron if i recall correct
[03:00] <hanasaki> ah
[03:00] <andreyv> p4 shuts down when it gets to ~120
[03:00] <skippy81> he did it for a laugh so it was a cheap one
[03:00] <Managu> dk: just a guess here, but could it be that the permissios on the mount point belong to the underlying (root?) filesystem, and not to the mounted volume?
[03:00] <andreyv> shame u cant vaporize a celeron4
[03:01] <UzzaDead> skippy81, did you see the video where they popped the heatsink off a running athlon?
[03:01] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Hi, I have nearly EVERY gstreamer codec installed including fluendo and Totem nor Rhythmbox will play MP3s. XMMS will but I'd rather use the others. I get the error: "Could not get/set settings from/on resource."
[03:01] <skippy81> UzzaDead:  nah, but i bet it blew the case open lol
[03:01] <DarkLegacy> lol
[03:01] <DarkLegacy> Skippy81, the CPU burned to death
[03:01] <DarkLegacy> ;)
[03:01] <dk> Managu: Seems to be so. But why? What are file_mode and dir_mode for then?
[03:01] <DarkLegacy> It burned a hole through the motherboard AND the case
[03:01] <skippy81> lol
[03:01] <UzzaDead> skippy81, it blew the core across the room cracking the entire chip and blowing a hole through the mobo under the socket :)
[03:01] <andreyv> do u want fries with ur fried silicon :P
[03:02] <cephyr> hey folks
[03:02] <andi5> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/62361 .... maybe i am just too stupid, but i tend to fail when debugging tex installations mistakes :)
[03:02] <DarkLegacy> Uzza, silicon melts it doesn't blow up
[03:02] <skippy81> that would be an embarrasing way to go to hospital - my CPU shrapnel hit me
[03:02] <DarkLegacy> lmfao
[03:02] <Rhine> I am trying to Install VLC but i has dependencies is there a way to force it to install those also?
[03:02] <Managu> dk: the files inside the share?  I don't think SMB/CIFS really supports the concept of unix-style permissions
[03:02] <andreyv> fried silicon
[03:02] <cephyr> i need help, I'm trying to find a certain phrase in a file but grep is so slow!
[03:02] <andreyv> mmmmmmm
[03:02] <UzzaDead> DarkLegacy, the video i saw the thing cracked
[03:02] <DarkLegacy> Actually, there's much more worse things to go to the hospital for
[03:02] <UzzaDead> it was one of the old ceramic ones
[03:02] <DarkLegacy> More embarassing*
[03:02] <Managu> cephyr: trying to grep a multi-gigabyte file?
[03:02] <DarkLegacy> The worst I've seen was a person who had a stop sign mashed 3/4's of the way into his rectum
[03:03] <andreyv> oooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:03] <icculus> eww
[03:03] <AK7> uuaaagh
[03:03] <UzzaDead> DarkLegacy, priapism while screwing a running vacuum hose?
[03:03] <Hexidigital_> anyone know of a web developer channel besides #webdev?
[03:03] <blanky> if I wanted to back up one of my dvd movies, but not rip to my computer rather burn to another DVD, what would be the best way to do this?
[03:03] <crimsun> andi5: search for a bug report onit.
[03:03] <cephyr> nope, not at all, maybe a 100 mb worth of directories/subdirectories
[03:03] <crimsun> on it ^
[03:03] <skippy81> lol, yeah ive heard something about a dead hamster in a cavity on an xray machine
[03:03] <Andy> can anyone help, ubuntu and ORiNOCO 11a/b/g ComboCard
[03:03] <Madpilot> Hexidigital_, #html, #css or #web
[03:03] <skippy81> maybe a gerbil actually :)
[03:03] <Hexidigital_> Madpilot:: thank you much
[03:03] <UzzaDead> thats just wacked :D
[03:03] <dk> Managu: If it dont support it, why does it restrict access?
[03:03] <xpc> !hu
[03:03] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[03:03] <Madpilot> DarkLegacy, that's way offtopic... enough, OK?
[03:03] <cephyr> so, are there any alternative programs to grep?
[03:03] <DarkLegacy> Sorry
[03:03] <DarkLegacy> :(
[03:04] <andreyv> anywayz wat about multiboot
[03:04] <andreyv> multidistro
[03:04] <andreyv> ubuntu
[03:04] <andreyv> one disc
[03:04] <andi5> crimsun: will do..... i desperately need tetex (thesis), so if nothing helps i will downgrade these packages
[03:04] <freezer> skippy81: i think i will reflash my old GF4TI to underclock it and cool passive :] 
[03:04] <waxon> I know it has probably been asked but is anyone else having a problem with "unable to create `./usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2" from the libgl1-mesa package. I have the ATI driver installed so x is working but I have dep problems that cant be fixed because of it.. any help would be appreciated. (upgrade from Breezy) There are similar problems on the boards if you search for libgl1 - This is the error message from synaptic. E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa_6.
[03:04] <waxon> 4.1-0ubuntu8_i386.deb: unable to create `./usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2'  - Any help is appreciated.
[03:04] <UzzaDead> freezer, you do that and i'll break your leg :)
[03:04] <freezer> lol
[03:04] <freezer> ;p
[03:04] <skippy81> freezer: ive always dreamed of a silent system, but getting a silent PSU is a real wallet killer
[03:04] <UzzaDead> how about i trade you a gf2 mx for that gf4 ti :)
[03:05] <UzzaDead> its even pci!
[03:05] <freezer> gf2 for pci? :p
[03:05] <dk> Managu: If I connected from Konqueror e. g. I can access the files.
[03:05] <UzzaDead> doesnt even require a heatsink or fan!!
[03:05] <UzzaDead> nice and cool :)
[03:05] <Managu> dk: I suppose the answer is "that's the unix way of things".  Let me put it this way -- what's the point having a world-readable file inside a "drwx------" directory?  Same situation
[03:05] <freezer> haha ;p
[03:05] <UzzaDead> also shit for performance but..
[03:05] <freezer> i will underclock it, and it will even be faster then your overcloked pci ;D
[03:06] <icculus> Can someone with a default 6.06 kernel tell me if /dev/fuse exists on their system?
[03:06] <Managu> dk: just "sudo chmod 777 /<mount-point>"; should solve the problem
[03:06] <alex_mayorga> anyone succeded following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping ???
[03:06] <UzzaDead> freezer, faster than my underclocked 6800 gt?
[03:06] <andi5> icculus: yes, when i modprobe fuse
[03:06] <mikelo> can anybody help me remove ubuntu-desktop apps without danger?
[03:06] <dk> Managu: And how do I make the drwx------ dir a drwxrwxrwx?
[03:06] <freezer> UzzaDead: who knows :D
[03:06] <UzzaDead> doubt it :P
[03:06] <icculus> andi-: thanks
[03:06] <UzzaDead> the ram on the thing is 1ghz :P
[03:07] <Managu> dk: just "sudo chmod 777 /<mount-point>"; should solve the problem
[03:07] <freezer> hrhr
[03:07] <UzzaDead> you'd get smoked like an athlon without a heatsink
[03:07] <mikelo> i want to remove open office
[03:07] <mikelo> safely
[03:07] <searayman> i installe dflash by following the directions, but it gave me flash 7. CAN i update to flash 8?
[03:07] <Rhine> brb
[03:07] <Rhine> getting groceries too damn
[03:07] <Madpilot> mikelo, you can remove ubuntu-desktop, it's just a metapackage
[03:07] <Hexidigital_> UzzaDead:: nice metaphor :)
[03:07] <skippy81> searayman: does flash 8 even exist for linux?
[03:07] <searayman> skippy81:  i dont know
[03:08] <UzzaDead> Hexidigital_, thanks :D
[03:08] <freezer> UzzaDead: it will work in my new VDR...
[03:08] <mikelo> ok Madpilot txn
[03:08] <searayman> anyone know if flash 8 exist for linux?
[03:08] <Managu> searayman: haven't looked into it myself,but I think I remember people saying that macromedia never released flash 8 for linux
[03:08] <Madpilot> searayman, Flash 8 doesn't exist
[03:08] <UzzaDead> freezer, VDR?
[03:08] <skippy81> searayman:  i dont think it does, i believe they will go straight to 9
[03:08] <twobitsprite> heh... I just noticed that the "finger" cursor for links is left handed... :P is this intentional, if so, what does it mean?
[03:08] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: I don't think so
[03:08] <freezer> UzzaDead: www.vdr-wiki.de
[03:08] <searayman> Madpilot:  grr what am i too do now lol
[03:08] <dk> Managu: No, that doesn't work. The rights of /mnt are drwxrwxrwx but after mouting it's drwxrwx--x.
[03:08] <Madpilot> searayman, complain to Macromedia, and live with Flash7...
[03:08] <searayman> can i use flash 8 plus through wine some how?
[03:08] <freezer> UzzaDead: Linux Video Disk Recorder
[03:08] <UzzaDead> freezer, damn you.
[03:10] <alex_mayorga> it's sad to realize we live in a world of proprietary stuff ='(
[03:10] <MdSalih> is there a version of ubuntu that runs off a usb flash drive?
[03:10] <alex_mayorga> it's even worse when you realize your wife to be have learned to live with all that
[03:11] <NRV> question??? how do I change screen resolution? it freezes and logs out every time I change from 1280x something to 1024x768 help???
[03:11] <Hexidigital_> MdSalih:: that's a good idea!  i'd imagine if your flash drive was large enough, it would work as a default install
[03:11] <dk> Can anybody help me mounting a samba share with file_mode and dir_mode 0777?
[03:11] <Hexidigital_> MdSalih:: i.e. 2+ GB
[03:11] <MdSalih> got a 2GB stick
[03:11] <MdSalih> maybe i'll give that a try :P
[03:12] <Hexidigital_> MdSalih:: i'm sure it'd work if your system allows USB booting
[03:12] <MdSalih> should be interesting
[03:12] <skippy81> MdSalih: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/derivatives this lists teh different flavours of ubuntu - i dont think you will fin d a mem stick version
[03:12] <skippy81> damn small linux might be an option for you
[03:12] <Hexidigital_> MdSalih:: if you try it, lemme know how it goes
[03:12] <MdSalih> will do
[03:12] <NRV> ow do I change screen resolution? it freezes and logs out every time I change from 1280x something to 1024x768 help??? I HAVE THE LATEST VERSION  and it<s updated
[03:12] <Hexidigital_> skippy81 and MdSalih are going to  make me erase my flash drive :(
[03:13] <skippy81> lol
[03:13] <Hexidigital_> :)
[03:13] <alex_mayorga> NRV, you sure it's the latest version?? how do I stop mine, is updating right now
[03:13] <skippy81> NRV; try "sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if playing with your x config helps
[03:13] <meta-ridley> anyone using bcm43xx with ppc?
[03:13] <MdSalih> played with DSL.. not very interesting :P
[03:13] <NRV> thanx
[03:13] <UzzaDead> MdSalih, damn small linux?
[03:13] <MdSalih> yes
[03:14] <freezer> oh, there was this water pipe behind my bed :] 
[03:14] <bimberi> !bcm43xx
[03:14] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[03:14] <Hexidigital_> well folks, time for work... goodnite everyone
[03:14] <jbzy3000> how do you access your trash can
[03:14] <skippy81> goodnighty
[03:14] <UzzaDead> MdSalih, i found the concept interesting but buggy as hell :D
[03:14] <meta-ridley> right on. a pre-canned response
[03:14] <skippy81> jbzy3000 click on it
[03:14] <pipipi> hi guys is something up with the Ubuntu Live/Install CD?
[03:14] <jbzy3000> it isnt there anymore
[03:14] <pipipi> for some reason it just hangs after saying
[03:14] <pipipi> Uncompressing the kernel...
[03:14] <jbzy3000> i accidently deleted it
[03:14] <UzzaDead> tried hitting it?
[03:14] <skippy81> jbzy3000:  right click on the bottom bar and add it to the bar again
[03:14] <pipipi> is there a long wait after that normally ?
[03:15] <skippy81> jbzy3000: "add to panel" is the option you want
[03:15] <meta-ridley> pipipi: how old is your hardware? ;P
[03:15] <Madpilot> pipipi, not too long. Are you sure it's a good download & a good burn?
[03:15] <meta-ridley> no, it shouldn't hang there too long
[03:15] <pipipi> very very new
[03:15] <dou213> i'm looking for an app, it displays graphical view of the hard disk free and used space...
[03:15] <UzzaDead> meta-ridley, i think dapper should boot in under 30 seconds on my 386/33mhz with 32mb ram!
[03:15] <pipipi> Madpilot, yea did a md5
[03:15] <pipipi> i burned it twice
[03:16] <pipipi> ill try it again
[03:16] <UzzaDead> pipipi, 64bit or 32bit?
[03:16] <Madpilot> pipipi, when you first start the CD, one of the options is "Check This CD" - below "Run Ubuntu"
[03:16] <meta-ridley> gnome would take about a half hour on that
[03:16] <jbzy3000> `thanks
[03:16] <AK7> dou213: filelight
[03:16] <navyn> anybody know where i can get the gset-compiz package?
[03:17] <dou213> AK7, thx
[03:17] <dou213> sudo apt-get install filelight, yes?
[03:17] <meta-ridley> does dapper come with pbuttonsd? probably not
[03:17] <AK7> uh.. I dunno
[03:17] <AK7> it's in synaptic
[03:17] <UzzaDead> its funny that im getting help in ubuntu but im running kubuntu :D
[03:17] <dou213> okay
[03:17] <cubikdice> Hey guys, how would i setup my resolution, it never asked me with the new installer.
[03:17] <AK7> incidentally, yes, it's apt-get filelight
[03:18] <mikelo> anybody here uninstalled openoffice?
[03:18] <UzzaDead> mikelo, you should be able to uninstall it via synaptics or adept with no problem
[03:18] <ablyss> UzzaDead: i think its even funnier that I installed ubuntu but im running kubuntu
[03:18] <AK7> okay, I'm like This close to getting Xgl to work: ||
[03:18] <UzzaDead> ablyss, how'd that happen?
[03:18] <mikelo> UzzaDead, there are a lot of packages and dependency problems i'll figure it out
[03:19] <AlbinoTux> Hi, I am having a problem, when I run gnome-window-decorator, it restarts gdm
[03:19] <linxeh> cubikdice: on the System -> Preferences menu ?
[03:19] <AlbinoTux> How do I find out why?
[03:19] <web44> xsane?  when xsane loaded it would not allow for selection of non flatbed scanner -- i have HP Office Jet T45xi any suggestions appreciated.
[03:19] <ablyss> UzzaDead, i installed kubuntu over it
[03:19] <UzzaDead> ablyss, lol :)
[03:19] <AK7> but when I double-click compiz.sh nothing happens :/
[03:19] <cubikdice> linxeh: no, see it only goes up to 1024x768, i want 1280x1024
[03:19] <AlbinoTux> I've been trying to setup XGL.
[03:19] <kholerabbi> How do I install a gnome theme, I have the tar..?
[03:19] <UzzaDead> anyone using or have experience with a d-link dwl650 and kubuntu/ubuntu?
[03:20] <skippy81> AK7, have you made it executable? comiz.sh that is?
[03:20] <linxeh> cubikdice: you might not have the right graphics card driver chosen then, or the monitor was off when the PC booted
[03:20] <UzzaDead> AlbinoTux, me too but i cant find one part of it
[03:20] <AK7> skippy: yeah
[03:20] <blanky> !ubotu
[03:20] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[03:20] <AlbinoTux> UzzaDead: What part?
[03:20] <skippy81> AK7, also run compiz.sh from a terminal, that way you can see the errors
[03:20] <AK7> I think the issue is with the fact that I"m running Xubuntu
[03:20] <UzzaDead> gset-compiz
[03:20] <AK7> i'll do that...
[03:20] <skippy81> AK7, well compiz isnt for XFCE
[03:20] <kholerabbi> Anybody tell me how to install gnome login theme??
[03:20] <cubikdice> linxeh: nope, just doing a fresh install, breezy was installed, no problems...and am about to get the 686 kernel and what not before i start installing
[03:21] <acke> hey, firefox vs 1.0.8 is the latest version supported by ubuntu right? id like to install a later version.
[03:21] <skippy81> AK7:  XFCE has its own built in compositing manager
[03:21] <AlbinoTux> Did you add deb xgl.compiz.info to your sources.list?
[03:21] <blanky> !info k3b
[03:21] <czer323> So, while running Firefox, I've narrowed my issues to anytime I goto a site that requires flash.  Without the Adobe Acrobat installers, firefox was fine, but as soon as I installed support for acrobat and flash, I started having the issues again.  Here's my error message from terminal. http://pastebin.com/761239
[03:21] <ubotu> k3b: (A sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3658 kB, Installed size: 7880 kB
[03:21] <UzzaDead> AlbinoTux, no
[03:21] <blanky> !find k3b
[03:21] <UzzaDead> once again i feel like a noob
[03:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'k3b' (5 shown): k3b ;; k3b-i18n ;; k3b-mp3 ;; k3blibs ;; k3blibs-dev.
[03:21] <twobitsprite> when installing mysql, which depends on postfix (?), it tries to send a test mail (I guess, is says sending mail, error code 1) before postfix has been installed... is this a bug?
[03:21] <kholerabbi> The new firefox should be in dapper, breezy only supports 1.0.8 though
[03:21] <linxeh> cubikdice: yeah, but it might not be using the right driver still - maybe its using a generic framebuffer rather than the specific one for your card
[03:21] <AlbinoTux> If you do that, all you have to do is apt-get install gset-compiz
[03:21] <Illnor> Why when I want to upgrade the distribution does it want to remove all of these packages?
[03:21] <skippy81> twobitsprite:  dont worry did the same to me, not really a bug i dont think
[03:21] <UzzaDead> AlbinoTux, thanks :)
[03:22] <AlbinoTux> http://xgl.compiz.info/
[03:22] <AK7> Skippy: the error is "no such file or directory" :(
[03:22] <cubikdice> linxeh: yeah. i'm running on a 7800 GT 256mb. dam you ubuntu! lol
[03:22] <AK7> I'm quite sure I'm looking at it on my desktop
[03:22] <twobitsprite> skippy81, I just didn't know if the developers should be notified just for correctness sake?
[03:22] <AlbinoTux> Go there and it gives you directions on adding it to your sources.
[03:22] <UzzaDead> i'll probably wait on a more concrete xgl guide
[03:22] <spundun> hi all... my friend is wondering if the base install of ubuntu from its single cd has wireless card drivers in it or not.. since if it doesn't then he can't get online and download other software
[03:22] <AlbinoTux> Now, can anyone help me find out why gdm restarts when I run gnome-window-decorator?
[03:22] <skippy81> AK7:  you have to change into teh compiz.sh directory and type "/.compiz.sh", but its pointless trying to run compiz if your in XFCE environment AK7
[03:22] <linxeh> cubikdice: you might want to install the nvidia drivers or whatever - the wiki has details I think
[03:23] <cubikdice> linxeh: running apt-get install linux-686 right now
[03:23] <AlbinoTux> UzzaDead: Have you see the wiki?
[03:23] <AK7> oh...
[03:23] <AK7> well, thnks...
[03:23] <UzzaDead> not that specific entry, i wasnt aware one existed!
[03:23] <UzzaDead> got a link?
[03:23] <skippy81> twobitsprite: yeah i guess it would be good to let them know, it could worry people when they see an error flash past them
[03:23] <acke> kholerabbi, thanks
[03:23] <AlbinoTux> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl
[03:23] <UzzaDead> thanks
[03:23] <Concretesledge> hey, guys ubuntu will not init my video card
[03:23] <twobitsprite> skippy81, what's the process for reporting a bug?
[03:23] <twobitsprite> ?bugs
[03:23] <twobitsprite> !bugs
[03:23] <skippy81> twobitsprite:  i think you use launchpad
[03:23] <wubrgamer> hey guys, anybody willing to PM me and walk me through upgrading from firefox 1.5.0.3 to 1.5.0.4 ?
[03:23] <skippy81> !malone
[03:24] <wubrgamer> i have not being able to auto update
[03:24] <wubrgamer> *hate
[03:24] <skippy81> wubrgamer: why cant you autoupdate?
[03:24] <kbrosnan> wubrgamer, you need to run firefox as root
[03:24] <Concretesledge> right when i install , it just gives me a terminal
[03:24] <Concretesledge> breezy badger
[03:25] <czer323> So, while running Firefox, I've narrowed my issues to anytime I goto a site that requires flash.  Without the Adobe Acrobat installers, firefox was fine, but as soon as I installed support for acrobat and flash, I started having the issues again.  Here's my error message from terminal. http://pastebin.com/761239
[03:25] <Concretesledge> so i need to have all the updates or whatever
[03:25] <maddy> computer stops responding during update to 6.06
[03:25] <twobitsprite> kbrosnan, wubrgamer, or change the permisions on the directory firefox wants to write to :P
[03:25] <skippy81> Concretesledge: why not install Dapper? its the current version?
[03:25] <maddy> using update manager
[03:25] <wubrgamer> ?
[03:25] <Concretesledge> skippy81 i just popped in the CD and installed
[03:25] <Concretesledge> it didnt ask me
[03:25] <Concretesledge> im not sure how to do anything in linux :9
[03:25] <skippy81> Concretesledge: theres a new CD out, version 6.06 i recommend you download it and install it
[03:26] <foil> where does totem keep the addresses entered into the "open location" dialog box stored?
[03:26] <ddonky> I upgraded breezy to dapper and now the small workspace windows on the bottom panel don't show the small icons like they used to, anyone know how to fix it?
[03:26] <sir_spelunker> doesnt show
[03:26] <maddy> i burned the cd but it checksums badly
[03:26] <maddy> it unuseable :(
[03:26] <wubrgamer> still won't let me update
[03:26] <skippy81> whoever, Concretesledge - try typing "startx" from the terminal and see if breezy will go into a gui
[03:26] <wubrgamer> even as root
[03:26] <skippy81> skippy81: however*
[03:26] <Concretesledge> i dont have a burner, but i heard UBCD will boot an ISO
[03:27] <Concretesledge> i got these in the mail
[03:27] <wubrgamer> you guys don't get it, it is DISABLED in the ubuntu build of firefox'
[03:27] <Concretesledge> brb
[03:27] <skippy81> wubrgamer:  use the normal build of firefox then
[03:27] <johnm1019> are there any ubuntu clustering projects? Or howto's for setting up network boot servers for computers to boot ubuntu?
[03:28] <skippy81> just download it
[03:28] <kbrosnan> wubrgamer, then follow these directions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:28] <nrbelex_ubuntu> I have nearly EVERY gstreamer codec installed including fluendo and Totem nor Rhythmbox will play MP3s. XMMS will but I'd rather use the others. I get the error: "Could not get/set settings from/on resource." Anybody know what to do?
[03:28] <wubrgamer> never mind
[03:28] <farous> !tell nrbelex_ubuntu about mp3
[03:28] <spowers> ubiquity crashes on my powerbook g4 trying to run the dapper installer
[03:28] <wubrgamer> i don't know how to build stuuff
[03:28] <wubrgamer> aack
[03:28] <skippy81> nrbelex_ubuntu:  are you sure you got all the codecs?
[03:28] <spowers> any ideas?
[03:29] <Tedd> nrbelex_ubuntu, get lame
[03:29] <wubrgamer> geez, me = n00b, HOW DO I build a program ?
[03:29] <nrbelex_ubuntu> skippy81, yes, first I used easyubuntu, when that didn't owrk I re-installed them by hand
[03:29] <nevyn> wubrgamer: what are you buildign?
[03:29] <poje> wubrgamer: open terminal, cd <directory>, ./configure, make, sudo make install
[03:29] <nrbelex_ubuntu> tedd, how do I do that?
[03:29] <wubrgamer> that's it ?
[03:29] <bimberi> s/sudo make instsll/checkinstall/
[03:30] <bimberi> !checkinstall
[03:30] <poje> wubrgamer: as long as you have the needed libraries, works for just about everything
[03:30] <Tedd> nrbelex_ubuntu, sudo apt-get install lame
[03:30] <ubotu> methinks checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[03:30] <farous> i think ubotu factoid about mp3 should include the link to the freeformats too
[03:30] <skippy81> wubrgamer:  why not just stick with the supplied firefox - ubuntus version has upto date security patches
[03:30] <Pegger> anyone knwo what happened to sparc
[03:30] <wubrgamer> what libraries ?
[03:30] <wubrgamer> like what ?
[03:30] <wubrgamer> ubuntu version is slower
[03:30] <tristanmike> poje:  use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"  it makes apt aware of it
[03:30] <wubrgamer> i don't know why
[03:30] <basbryan> !ubotu samba
[03:30] <ubotu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[03:30] <freezer> Sing ein Lied!
[03:30] <wubrgamer> and i just want a fresh mozilla one
[03:30] <skippy81> wubrgamer:  are we still on the subject of firefox here? as far as i know firefox is a binary download, you dont need to make it
[03:30] <poje> tristanmike: thank you, that's new to me and good advice
[03:30] <foil> where does totem keep the addresses entered into the "open location" dialog box stored? (the equivalent of a "history")
[03:31] <wubrgamer> nope, it's tar.gz
[03:31] <skippy81> just download it from mozillas website and take a look at it
[03:31] <wubrgamer> ?
[03:31] <wubrgamer> what?
[03:31] <wubrgamer> i'm confused
[03:31] <wubrgamer> how do i install it ?
[03:31] <wubrgamer> aack
[03:31] <wubrgamer> such a n00b
[03:31] <poje> wubrgamer: gotta untar it: tar -xzf <filename>
[03:31] <tristanmike> poje: it also creates a .deb so if you have to reinstall it on your machine again, you have a deb to do it, rather than recompile, but it's non-transferable ;)
[03:31] <answerguy> Is there a summary of the changes that occured in the base ISO images between the last RC and the actual LTS release?
[03:31] <wubrgamer> where is that ?
[03:31] <wubrgamer> i have the tar.gz sitting on my desktop.......WHAT DO I DO ?
[03:31] <poje> wubrgamer: open a terminal
[03:31] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Tedd, I already had it
[03:32] <meta-ridley> read a book
[03:32] <skippy81> wubrgamer: right click on it and press extract
[03:32] <tristanmike> !tell wubrgamer about tar
[03:32] <skippy81> thats the gui way :)
[03:32] <poje> skippy81: :(
[03:32] <wubrgamer> got it
[03:32] <skippy81> or from a comand line its tar -xjvf <filename>
[03:32] <tristanmike> wubrgamer: read your pm for some info on tar/untar'ing
[03:32] <wubrgamer> alright.....
[03:32] <wubrgamer> i have no pm's from anyone
[03:32] <farous> dh_make and dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot are much better than checkinstall
[03:32] <poje> skippy81: j is for bz2, z for gz
[03:32] <AK7> wubrgamer: just double click it
[03:32] <skippy81> ah :)
[03:32] <wubrgamer> now what do i do with the extracted file ?
[03:33] <AK7> archive manger pops up
[03:33] <poje> skippy81: didn't we already discuss the usability of the CLI for new users?
[03:33] <whaley> where in /etc could i find config files related to alsa or gstreamer
[03:33] <AK7> extract,and run firefox
[03:33] <poje> wubrgamer: pm me
[03:33] <mshiltonj> trying to install dapper now (i'm on the live cd) I'm "5% complete" -- "creating ext3 file system/in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) ..." and I get popup error "failed to create a file system"  I googled a bit and didn't see anything on this.
[03:33] <poje> wubrgamer: nm
[03:33] <AK7> it's crude, but it works
[03:33] <whaley> i'm being bitten by the 'can't detect soundcard' problem
[03:33] <mshiltonj> I'm hosed, ain't it??
[03:33] <poje> wubrgamer: we'll do it in the channel :)  okay, so cd <the directory that just extracted>
[03:33] <mshiltonj> *I*
[03:33] <tocool4u> hello
[03:34] <kholerabbi> Hello, I have a friend who wants to switch to linux, but they have tons of visual basic macros in Microsoft Word, is there a way of installing an OOo extension for visual basic script macros?
[03:34] <AK7> mshiltonj: if you have another OS on there, that is likely going to have issues
[03:34] <poje> kholerabbi: I would suggest running Word in Wine if he is that dependet on them
[03:34] <wubrgamer> how do i find where i am in the command line ?
[03:34] <RadiantFire> kholerabbi: easy way, tell him to install OOo in windows and see if it works
[03:34] <wubrgamer> in the file system ?
[03:34] <mshiltonj> I don't.  I only had breezy, but I was doing a clean install.
[03:34] <coucho> hey
[03:34] <wubrgamer> ls ?
[03:34] <RadiantFire> kholerabbi: ooo can handle some basic script imports
[03:34] <skippy81> wubrgamer: "pwd"
[03:34] <wubrgamer> thnx
[03:34] <coucho> can someone tell me what the correct driver for voodoo cards is?
[03:34] <poje> wubrgamer: pwd prints the working directory
[03:34] <wubrgamer> i'm there
[03:34] <skippy81> wubrgamer: stands for present working driectory
[03:34] <wubrgamer> thenx
[03:35] <wubrgamer> it works
[03:35] <poje> wubrgamer: you start in your home, so you should be able to cd to Desktop/<directory>
[03:35] <wubrgamer> so what do i do now ?
[03:35] <nrbelex_ubuntu> So I definitely have all the necessary gstreamer codecs and I already had lame.  still can't get MP3s to play...
[03:35] <coucho> it's a voodoo5 card
[03:35] <wubrgamer> yes
[03:35] <wubrgamer> altight
[03:35] <coucho> is glide the way to go?
[03:35] <mshiltonj> AK7: I just want to get dapper (and only dapper) on there.
[03:35] <poje> wubrgamer: type ./configure
[03:35] <NRV> desktop wont change resolution!!! it freezes and logs me out ... that<s it HELP
[03:35] <wubrgamer> i'm IN the firefox folder
[03:35] <AK7> Well, then, turn off the computer and start over, mshiltonj
[03:35] <mshiltonj> I've tried to run the install prog three times now.
[03:35] <wubrgamer> it's not there
[03:35] <AK7> oh
[03:35] <wubrgamer> no such file
[03:35] <AK7> bad download?
[03:35] <poje> wubrgamer: is there a bin folder? type ls
[03:35] <coucho> anybody?
[03:35] <mshiltonj> I haven't rebooted, though.
[03:36] <skippy81> wubrgamer:  can you type "ls" and pastebin it please
[03:36] <wubrgamer> right
[03:36] <AK7> yeah, try that
[03:36] <mshiltonj> alright. I'll reboot and verify the media. try again.
[03:36] <AK7> wait
[03:36] <mshiltonj> *crosses fingers*
[03:36] <mshiltonj> ??
[03:36] <AK7> do you have ubuntu or kubuntu
[03:36] <mshiltonj> ubuntu
[03:36] <wubrgamer> ubuntu
[03:36] <AK7> kk
[03:36] <poje> wubrgamer: cd bin and then ./firefox
[03:36] <coucho> do you not see me typing, or are you just ignoring me?
[03:36] <AK7> I guess reboot and hope for the best :/
[03:36] <mshiltonj> here's hoping.
[03:36] <wubrgamer> pastebin.com/761268
[03:37] <mshiltonj> tnx
[03:37] <threeseas> coucho: are you typing or are you an ai program that doesn't know what a key board is? ;)
[03:37] <kholerabbi> Hmmm... I'll install word on wine, and see if the script works by importing thansk :)
[03:37] <poje> wubrgamer: ./firefox
[03:37] <skippy81> coucho: try "voodoo"
[03:37] <wubrgamer> no such file or directory
[03:37] <wubrgamer> oh
[03:37] <coucho> threeseas: are you helping or just trying to be funny?
[03:37] <wubrgamer> never mind
[03:37] <jilocasin> ? Does anyone know why if I try to uninstall Evolution, synaptic insists on uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[03:38] <wubrgamer> oh wow
[03:38] <coucho> skippy81: doesn't bring up much
[03:38] <wubrgamer> it says i'm updated
[03:38] <wubrgamer> !
[03:38] <ubotu> wubrgamer: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:38] <wubrgamer> firefox came up
[03:38] <poje> wubrgamer: sorry, I forgot that ff releases binaries ;d
[03:38] <coucho> except glide, but man glide says it's only for voodoo 1 & 2
[03:38] <wubrgamer> ?
[03:38] <skippy81> coucho:  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if you can choose voodoo from the list of video drivers
[03:38] <wubrgamer> it isn't installed though
[03:38] <wubrgamer> i just exited
[03:38] <threeseas> coucho: maybe neither as I just entered the channels and don't see your initial msgs
[03:38] <poje> wubrgamer: I had been telling you how to build from source without remembering that FF releases binaries primarily
[03:38] <wubrgamer> and clicked the blue ball.......
[03:39] <wubrgamer> it's now ff 1503
[03:39] <wubrgamer> aach
[03:39] <poje> wubrgamer: you can move that directory somewhere and change the blue ball to point to that firefox
[03:39] <AK7> is it any faster?
[03:39] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Does anybody know at least who to ask about my MP3 problem?
[03:39] <wubrgamer> oh
[03:39] <wubrgamer> that it ?
[03:39] <kholerabbi> COuld someone tell me how I can import visual basics scripts into OOo? It doesn't seem to have an "import" item
[03:39] <wubrgamer> well
[03:39] <AK7> nrbelex_ubuntu: try out easyubuntu
[03:39] <wubrgamer> thank you
[03:39] <wubrgamer> l8r
[03:39] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: what problem?
[03:39] <nrbelex_ubuntu> AK7, I did
[03:39] <sanmarcos> is x/vnc broken in dapper?
[03:39] <AK7> didn't work?
[03:39] <sanmarcos> i am getting
[03:39] <sanmarcos> could not open default font 'fixed'
[03:39] <liotari> aloo
[03:39] <poje> wubrgamer: move it into your home directory, right click on the blue ball and hit properties, and then change the path to /home/yourusername/firefox/firefox
[03:40] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Toma,  I have nearly EVERY gstreamer codec installed including fluendo and Totem nor Rhythmbox will play MP3s. XMMS will but I'd rather use the others. I get the error: "Could not get/set settings from/on resource."
[03:40] <AK7> dunno
[03:40] <kholerabbi> Do I install wine from there homepage or through synaptic?
[03:40] <tocool4u> Either 1
[03:40] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: i see
[03:40] <skippy81> kholerabbi:  its not on synaptic im afraid
[03:40] <poje> kholerabbi: I suggest synaptic
[03:40] <torpedo|dog> kholerabbi: I recommend through WineHQ
[03:40] <skippy81> or maybe im wrong
[03:40] <kholerabbi> oK, then
[03:40] <tocool4u> Well if you added the repositiories
[03:40] <liotari> I have a 20gb ipod that i use to save some file in it. But recently, i have a problem removing those file; even with the command "rm"... What do i do next?????
[03:41] <kholerabbi> Once I have installed it, How can I use it?
[03:41] <kholerabbi> (wine)
[03:41] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: youve just upgraded?
[03:41] <torpedo|dog> kholerabbi: type on a command line "wine 'program name'"
[03:41] <tocool4u> Read the readme.....But you go into Terminal and type winecfg
[03:41] <wubrgamer> hey
[03:41] <wubrgamer> i just did that thing
[03:41] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Toma, well I did a fresh install but yes
[03:41] <poje> kholerabbi: I suggest checking out some google/winehq.com tutorials
[03:41] <kholerabbi> OK, can I set up a luancher for that?
[03:41] <wubrgamer> and the icon thing in gnome, it says firefox %u
[03:41] <wubrgamer> what is %u ?
[03:41] <poje> wubrgamer: yeah?
[03:41] <wubrgamer> what is %u ?
[03:41] <kholerabbi> thanks everyone :)
[03:42] <poje> wubrgamer: username
[03:42] <liotari> I have a 20gb ipod that i use to save some file in it. But recently, i have a problem removing those file; even with the command "rm"... What do i do next????? can anyone help????
[03:42] <wubrgamer> so wait
[03:42] <poje> wubrgamer: it loads your personal profile
[03:42] <wubrgamer> where do i delete and put up the new firefox ?
[03:42] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: tried moving your ~/.gstreamer folder somewhere else?
[03:42] <wubrgamer> where is firefox in my system /
[03:42] <wubrgamer> ?
[03:42] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Toma, no, how do I do that so the programs know where to look?
[03:42] <Kyral> which firefox
[03:42] <skippy81> liotari: are your running the rm command as root?
[03:42] <wubrgamer> the old one
[03:43] <poje> wubrgamer: change firefox %u to /home/yourusername/firefox/firefox %u (assuming you move the firefox directory back into your home folder)
[03:43] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: farmiliar with the command line?
[03:43] <wubrgamer> oh
[03:43] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Toma, marginally
[03:43] <Kyral> wubrgamer: If you upgraded it its gone
[03:43] <wubrgamer> how do i install it ?
[03:43] <liotari> skippy81: yes i am
[03:43] <wubrgamer> without just the portable folder thing.......
[03:43] <BlackSolaris> how can I make my Linksys WMP54G wireless card work in Dapper?
[03:43] <wubrgamer> i want apps to launch firefox
[03:43] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: 'mv ~/.gstreamer-0.10 ~/gstreamer-old'
[03:43] <liotari> skippy81: but yet it couldn't
[03:43] <Toma-> or whatever version you have
[03:43] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Toma, ok
[03:44] <poje> wubrgamer: there are a couple entries on the ubuntu forums about this, try searching :)
[03:44] <zexr0> !psx
[03:44] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zexr0
[03:44] <wubrgamer> ?
[03:44] <Toma-> zexr0: epsxe for that :)
[03:44] <skippy81> liotari:  hmm thats strange then im not sure
[03:44] <zexr0> thx :p
[03:44] <andi5> crimsun: just wanted to tell you: tetex-base 3.0.11 had a file called 00tetex.cnf, the new versions have 10tetex.cnf.... now i had both files and this was too much for tex's stomach :)
[03:44] <johnm1019> How do you force the terminal to page output so i can 'scroll'?
[03:44] <dkoski> What causes this after dist-upgrade (hoary to dapper)? "FATAL: Error inserting sym53c8xx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/scsi/sym53c8xx_2/sym53c8xx.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)"
[03:44] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Toma, no change if that was the only step
[03:44] <skippy81> johnm1019:  use " | more" at the end of the command
[03:44] <johnm1019> skippy81, thanks
[03:44] <skippy81> i think that works anyway
[03:45] <poje> wubrgamer: ubuntuforums.org - search for firefox update
[03:45] <skippy81> if it doesnt let me know :)
[03:45] <mshiltonj> AK7: it was bad media.
[03:45] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: have you got anymore .gstreamer folders?
[03:45] <liotari> skippy81: thanks anyway
[03:45] <wubrgamer> i can't find the source code
[03:45] <AK7> mshiltonj: heh... I burned 4 xubuntu disks before I got a good one
[03:45] <mshiltonj> AK7: the file 'squashfs' wouldn't verify.
[03:45] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: not on dapper yet, still burning the CD :(
[03:45] <AK7> the moral of the story is don't burn install CDs at 48X
[03:45] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Toma, I see thanks anyway
[03:45] <mshiltonj> re-downloading to be safe.
[03:45] <skippy81> AK7: yeah but its one lesson i never learn :)
[03:46] <mshiltonj> AK7: also: verify media before blowing away your partition table.
[03:46] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: to put it simply, you have a bad config in your home folder
[03:46] <AK7> mshiltonj: you can check the MD5s to see if the download is good
[03:46] <BlackSolaris> anyone have any ideas?? I have tried ndiswrapper but it wont work... maybe just doing it wrong?
[03:46] <AK7> lol
[03:46] <defendguin> has anyone been having issues with the vmware player packages in dapper?
[03:46] <johnm1019> whats the name of the xserver package?
[03:46] <aesxa> Is it a good idea to install Debian pacakges on Ubuntu? This xchat-gnome <<< Debian's xchat package.
[03:46] <defendguin> the config script fails every time
[03:46] <johnm1019> i used the alternate install and want to try and install the whole graphical package now
[03:46] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Toma, ok, is there any way to erase/reinstall it?
[03:46] <DBO> johnm1019, xserver-xorg
[03:46] <alex_mayorga> BlackSolaris, maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:47] <johnm1019> DBO, will that install everything needed to get a typical ubuntu desktop?
[03:47] <aesxa> Also, Hi I just switched from debian because etch went zonkers. Can I use the same marillat repos?
[03:47] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: open nautilus, press Ctl-H then look for .gstreamer and delete it
[03:47] <foil> where does totem keep the addresses entered into the "open location" dialog box stored? (the equivalent of a "history")
[03:47] <skippy81> johnm1019:  no you want to install "ubuntu-desktop" metapackage for that mate
[03:47] <DBO> johnm1019, no, but ubuntu-desktop will
[03:47] <alex_mayorga> BlackSolaris, newbie here, but it might work for you
[03:47] <BlackSolaris> alex_mayorga: thanks, that's perfect I think
[03:47] <bimberi> aesxa: no it's not.  ubuntu does have an xchat-gnome package
[03:47] <johnm1019> thanks!
[03:47] <bimberi> !info xchat-gnome
[03:47] <aesxa> bimberi, I know, and that's what I'm using, and it sucks.
[03:47] <ubotu> xchat-gnome: (a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.5-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1329 kB, Installed size: 4092 kB
[03:48] <skippy81> yeah i want a better irc
[03:48] <bimberi> aesxa: go on, give it a couple of weeks :P
[03:48] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Toma, ok, done
[03:48] <aesxa> bimberi, I prefer normal xchat. So can I use Debian's xchat, which doesn't suck?
[03:48] <alex_mayorga> BlackSolaris, hope the gides didn't led me errors, but you might be lucky
[03:48] <aesxa> : )
[03:48] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: fixed?
[03:48] <yahan> hi
[03:48] <roostishaw> how can i forcefully unmout a cd at /media/cdrom0?
[03:48] <bimberi> aesxa: reverse searching, single left-click opening weblinks
[03:48] <yahan> i need help ?
[03:49] <bimberi> aesxa: ubuntu also has an xchat package
[03:49] <Tedd> roostishaw, sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[03:49] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Toma, nope :-(
[03:49] <kholerabbi> How do I install Microsoft office for wine?
[03:49] <bimberi> !info xchat
[03:49] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[03:49] <Toma-> nrbelex_ubuntu: :(
[03:49] <aesxa> Also, can I use the same marrilat repos? bimberi, apt-cache search xchat shows me only xchat-gnome, and apt-get install xchat fails.
[03:49] <Toma-> bbl, installing dapper :)
[03:49] <wubrgamer> aack
[03:49] <NRV> question,,, I have a fresh installation,,, and update version of ubuntu 6.06, but every time I come to change screen resolution it freezes and logs me out? can anyone help me please... and no sudo dpkg did<nt work
[03:49] <wubrgamer> l8r
[03:49] <skippy81> kholerabbi: i suggest you read the wine applications database
[03:49] <yahan> i have a problem with my wireless card
[03:49] <kholerabbi> ok thanks
[03:49] <nrbelex_ubuntu> Toma, should I uninstall the codecs again and re-install?
[03:50] <alex_mayorga> I would say again and don't want a canned response, how to get working mp3 for good sake!?
[03:50] <bimberi> aesxa: marillat is not recommended, it's better to get packages individually and install using dpkg
[03:50] <whyvas_> go edmonton!
[03:50] <cubikdice> whyvas_: w00t
[03:50] <bimberi> aesxa: put your sources.list on the pastebin
[03:50] <alex_mayorga> I know they're bad and proprietary, but is what our childs/significant others already have so, there's no much room
[03:51] <aesxa> bimberi, oh? why's that? bimberi, it's just the default, I literally *just* installed Ubuntu.
[03:51] <czer323> So, while running Firefox, I've narrowed my issues to anytime I goto a site that requires flash.  Without the Adobe Acrobat installers, firefox was fine, but as soon as I installed support for acrobat and flash, I started having the issues again.  Here's my error message from terminal. http://pastebin.com/761239
[03:51] <meta-ridley> hmm bcm43xx will not associate for me
[03:51] <meta-ridley> anyone else have this issue?
[03:51] <yahan> i need help with my wirelles card bimberi ?
[03:51] <alex_mayorga> I followed the ripping guide to the letter, but nothing
[03:51] <coucho> how can i convert an rpm to a deb?
[03:51] <bimberi> aesxa: you'd need to enable the universe repository then ...
[03:51] <bimberi> !universe
[03:51] <sh3ll> yahan: there with you
[03:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[03:51] <skippy81> alex_mayorga, did you also follow the restricted formats wiki to the letter?
[03:52] <yahan> ok sh3ll
[03:52] <Yendor> First, USB mouse not working.  Second, ndiswrapper not working.
[03:52] <coucho> anybody?
[03:52] <bimberi> yahan: have you described the problem?
[03:52] <yahan> i have a problem with my wireless card in ubuntu dapper
[03:52] <coucho> rpm to deb?
[03:52] <Yendor> Did a dist-upgrade today.  Everything went smoothly except for lvm2 did not install properly
[03:52] <bimberi> coucho: alien
[03:52] <skippy81> coucho:  use the command "alien"
[03:52] <czer323> alex> from what i understand, you need to install the codecs for mp3 stuffs.  I hear that EasyUbuntu is an easy way of installing them.  Care to cehck it out at http://www.easyubuntu.com
[03:52] <coucho> k thnx
[03:52] <yahan> i can see my wireless card
[03:52] <bpont> anyone know why the 'check for updates' option is grayed out in firefox?
[03:52] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: yup, pretty much, but I kicked the updater, I hope it'l do more good than bad, so I'm patiently waiting for a dumb proof guide
[03:53] <alex_mayorga> me not being the only one in the 2 hours I've been here might mean something
[03:53] <maddy_> is it adviseable to compile custom kernel after installing dapper?
[03:53] <czer323> bpont> I heard that you have to log into terminal then run "sudo firefox" to run as root.  Then you can update.
[03:53] <cubikdice> coucho: alien, sudo apt-get install alien, then alien filename.rpm filename.deb
[03:53] <yahan> i use ndiswrapper for install the drivers of windows but nothing happen
[03:53] <dou213> what's better, easyubuntu or automatix? is automatix available for i386 too?
[03:53] <aesxa> bimberi, okay, thank you. : )
[03:53] <bpont> czer323: ok...i'll try that
[03:54] <bimberi> aesxa: np :)
[03:54] <coucho> thnx
[03:54] <czer323> dou213> I've heard people here say that automatix is bad... But uhm, it seemed fine for me.  I'm just passing on what these guys would say.
[03:54] <Yendor> Anyone?  USB mouse and ndis support?
[03:54] <bimberi> ndiswrapper
[03:54] <bimberi> !ndiswrapper
[03:54] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[03:55] <cubikdice> czer323: they only say that because it's not "Official" i'm achully installing stuff right now with it...no problems as well
[03:55] <bimberi> ^^^^^^ (for people with nicks beginning with Y)
[03:55] <kholerabbi> On the winehq appdb microsoft office 2003 page i says it will not run nor install on breezy, any advice? (http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=3214)
[03:55] <Yendor> My ndiswrapper was working under Breezy.
[03:55] <dou213> yeah, but is Automatix available for i386 too? i've read something about on dapper only on amd64 like cpus
[03:55] <bpont> dou213: i used easyubuntu with no problems
[03:55] <Yendor> Broadcom internal wireless card on HP laptop
[03:55] <bpont> dou213: i use i386
[03:55] <cubikdice> dou213: lol yes, there are amd64 ports too
[03:56] <skippy81> kholerabbi: if it installs ok on debian or other deb based distros then it is definately worth a shot
[03:56] <SAM_theman> yo people what do i do after i install my nvidia-glx on a 64 bit cpu (i am on the ubuntu regular *32 bit)
[03:56] <czer323> Cubikdice> actually, they keep insisting that it breaks things, so...  Again, i'm just repeating what I've read ;)  I've been in here a couples days now setting stuff up. LOL
[03:56] <skippy81> kholerabbi: are you using dapper? dapper is totally different to breezy IMO, so dont worry if something doesnt work on breezy but is fine on everything else
[03:56] <SAM_theman> cause i did nvidia-glx  install with apt then restarted it
[03:56] <SAM_theman> no nvidia
[03:57] <aesxa> What is in Universe and Multiverse?
[03:57] <SAM_theman> is there some command to set it
[03:57] <rpedro> !tell SAM_theman about nvidia
[03:57] <cubikdice> SAM_theman: open a terminal and type glxgears, tell my what happens
[03:57] <skippy81> aesxa:  packages which are not "officially" part of ubuntu, but are known to work well
[03:57] <SAM_theman> gives me error and there is no direct rendering
[03:57] <SAM_theman> I an not new to ubuntu but new to 6.06LTS
[03:57] <skippy81> aesxa:  and i think universe is software which is not free and open source
[03:58] <cubikdice> czer323: yeah, i'v seen them say that too, but its all up to your experiences
[03:58] <alex_mayorga> wife is going to kick my ass if I don't get her mp3 working whenn she comes back from french class =(
[03:58] <SAM_theman> I know on 5.10 theres a command to enable it
[03:58] <spowers> alex_mayorga: i'm playing mp3s on ubuntu right now. jealous?
[03:58] <SAM_theman> if think its nvidia enable
[03:58] <aesxa> ah, so similar to Debian's contrib non-free
[03:58] <aesxa> ?
[03:58] <alex_mayorga> and away it goes an Ubuntu convert
[03:58] <bpont> czer323: i tried 'sudo firefox' but it didn't let me 'check for updates'
[03:58] <maddy_> Postfix Configuration ? what do i do now?
[03:58] <cubikdice> SAM_theman: did you run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[03:58] <SAM_theman> Look boy I will make u jealous
[03:58] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  you could always try automatix or easyubuntu
[03:59] <SAM_theman> www.putfile.com/sammy2005
[03:59] <alex_mayorga> spowers: kinda, I'm to in XP pro =)
[03:59] <pvd2006> I just typed  bzip2 -d fileiso.bz2(not real filename) and its just sitting there in terminal.
[03:59] <skippy81> !automatix
[03:59] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, skippy81
[03:59] <SAM_theman> look at my previous version of ubunut
[03:59] <cubikdice> do you need nvidia help or not?
[03:59] <cubikdice> SAM_theman: did you run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[03:59] <skippy81> !easyubuntu
[03:59] <ubotu> hmm... easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[03:59] <SAM_theman> nope
[03:59] <cubikdice> SAM_theman: then do so
[03:59] <aesxa> Hmmm.... if Marrilat is not recommended, how do I get these codecs that I need? Mplayer just failed because it couldn't find the right codec.s
[03:59] <SAM_theman> ok  it says restart brb
[03:59] <spowers> alex_mayorga: you're going about this the wrong way, I think. I guess I could help you play mp3s since i managed to get it working on my machine. what music player do you want mp3 support for?
[04:00] <DBO> somone changes the automatix factoid again...
[04:00] <czer323> bpont> sorry then. :-\  It's just something i had read in the channel.
[04:00] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: she won't let linux in her laptop anymore, after, as she says "I've been playing with that for days... not paying attention to her..."
[04:00] <cubikdice> then hit ctrl + alt + Backspace
[04:00] <alex_mayorga> spowers: a 20 GB Creative Zen Sleek
[04:00] <BrianHH> Hi, Everyone.  Is there a commandline option for having Xclock stay on top?  I've got Xclock launching whenever I start up, but I want to be able to have it on top without manually setting it that way with the mouse.
[04:00] <bpont> czer323: no worries...i'll hit the forums
[04:00] <kholerabbi> How come when I press the physical eject button for the cdrom it never works, but when I rightclick and select eject on the cdicon on the desktop it dose?
[04:01] <tks> ei
[04:01] <spowers> alex_mayorga: uh, that's not quite i meant.
[04:01] <spowers> er, not quite what i meant.
[04:01] <cubikdice> BrianHH, you a blenderhead?
[04:01] <yahan> thanxs bimberi
[04:01] <czer323> Yeah, i do have a problem that nobody has been able to fix yet though. ;)  Last night I started uninstalling some 'unnecessary packages' like printing and cups, but I've got a problem with firefox and flash/pdf pages.
[04:01] <WeirdArms> Is there some way to get 'upgrade-manager' to give you more info about why an upgrade failed? I just get "Could not calculate upgrade" and it cleans up and exits.
[04:01] <alex_mayorga> spowers: from what I investigated back at work today gnomad2 would have me all set, but the one in ubuntu repos didn't worked
[04:01] <czer323> So, while running Firefox, I've narrowed my issues to anytime I goto a site that requires flash.  Without the Adobe Acrobat installers, firefox was fine, but as soon as I installed support for acrobat and flash, I started having the issues again.  Here's my error message from terminal. http://pastebin.com/761239
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> kholerabbi: b/c of a setting that thinks you shouldn't be able to remove media without properly unmounting it.  You can change that, but unfortunately I don't remember how off the top of my head.
[04:02] <Yendor> Anyone have problems getting lvm2 to install from Dapper?
[04:02] <BrianHH> cubikdice: Uh, not to my knowledge....
[04:02] <aesxa> so is it very bad to use Debian packages on Ubuntu? or not really?
[04:02] <cubikdice> BrianHH, nvm, thought you were someone else sorry
[04:02] <aesxa> Also, what version of X does 6.06 have?
[04:02] <yahan> and i have other problem, i own a acer travelmate 2700 y have a problem with the resolution, i can use 1280x800
[04:02] <BrianHH> cubikdice:  That's okay. :)
[04:02] <skippy81> czer323: what exactly happens when you visit a flash page?
[04:02] <spowers> alex_mayorga: i thought you were mostly interested in getting a mp3 player like xmms or rhythmbox working with mp3s.. had no idea you were talking about a hardware mp3 player
[04:02] <distanceisdeath> can we talk about psx emulation?
[04:03] <czer323> skippy81> The browser quits
[04:03] <BrianHH> aesxa:  You can use .deb packages with Ubuntu.  It's a Debian distro.
[04:03] <skippy81> czer323: are you running 64 bit dapper by any chance?
[04:03] <BrianHH> er, Debian-based distro, that is.
[04:03] <bur[n] er_> distanceisdeath: what about it?
[04:03] <distanceisdeath> i need help getting it installed
[04:03] <alex_mayorga> spowers: if I get the mp3 ripping I would give Ubuntu maybe another day on this laptop, but not much more
[04:03] <czer323> skippy81> nope.  pentium 3, and i installed the 686 kernel.
[04:03] <bur[n] er_> alex_mayorga: tried grip?
[04:03] <bur[n] er_> alex_mayorga: and the lame codec?
[04:03] <spowers> i basically have no idea what you're trying to do.
[04:04] <spowers> gotta go.
[04:04] <alex_mayorga> spowers: wife got an XP pro lend from a friend today
[04:04] <bur[n] er_> !tell alex_mayorga about RestrictedFormates
[04:04] <bur[n] er_> !tell alex_mayorga about RestrictedFormats
[04:04] <Varanger> hello
[04:04] <cubikdice> hi
[04:04] <aesxa> BrianHH, I know, but I've also read that it's "not completely compatible". But I was reading Ian Murdock's blog and he talks about how he wants all debs to work everywhere Debian-based. So it is cool to use Debian packages? What isn't compatible, exactly?
[04:04] <Varanger> How can I enable gstreamer to support DVD's???
[04:04] <alex_mayorga> bur[n] er: done that already,
[04:04] <bur[n] er_> alex_mayorga: what's the issue?
[04:04] <jasonmansey> is there any guide that can tell me if ubuntu will support my hardware?
[04:04] <BrianHH> Is there a way to make sure that Xclock always runs on top?  I know there's a window control, but I want to set it to always run on top when the machine boots.
[04:04] <bur[n] er_> i think even soundjuicer can rip to mp3, though I have always used grip
[04:05] <alex_mayorga> they've had the bot tell me 2-3 times
[04:05] <distanceisdeath> burner do you use psx emu's?
[04:05] <bur[n] er_> distanceisdeath: i have
[04:05] <skippy81> czer323:  i think you should uninstall flash, i had the same thing- had to remove my flash plugins from inside my firefox directory in my home folder
[04:05] <BrianHH> aesxa:  I'm not sure what's compatible and what's not.  I was under the impression that they'd all be...
[04:05] <distanceisdeath> what did you use? pcsx or epsxe?
[04:05] <alex_mayorga> bur[n] er: I'm using Sound Juicer
[04:06] <alex_mayorga> when I click extract I get Sound Juicer could not extract this CD.
[04:06] <alex_mayorga> Reason: Could not create GStreamer encoders for MP3 Encoding
[04:06] <bootlick> What is a good irc client to use with ubuntu?
[04:06] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  you need to install LAME then
[04:06] <czer323> skippy81> ahh,  but it happens in a new user as well, with a completely different home directory.
[04:06] <metrix> what is the package/program that installs all that nifty stuff that doesn't come with the base distribution of ubuntu?
[04:06] <Yendor> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+bug/47972
[04:06] <Yendor> That's my bug there, too, it seems.
[04:06] <distanceisdeath> can you play mp3 files, alex?
[04:06] <dj__> hello ALL!  are there some cool guys or gals who can help me use my Ubuntu computer as a Router?  I've got it all set up, but something is wrong
[04:06] <jasonmansey> are sata drives supported by ubuntu?
[04:06] <cubikdice> How do i configure X so i can change my Resolution?
[04:07] <kholerabbi> the .bin self extracting installer - are they any good?
[04:07] <alex_mayorga> I followed the CDRipping guide
[04:07] <skippy81> czer323: yeah but plugins are also stored in the firefox folder in /usr/firefox i believe
[04:07] <cubikdice> jasonmansey: runnin on one right now :)
[04:07] <czer323> Skippy> in fact, the only time that it actually was able to view the page, was when i removed the firefox folder, and replaced it with a fresh copy.
[04:07] <kholerabbi> I meen, Would I choose .bin or .deb for picasa for linux?
[04:07] <Laestrygo> cubikdice: there is a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:07] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: how to ?? for linux dummy
[04:07] <jasonmansey> cubikdice: really? isnt ubuntu based off debian... i was told that debian has issues with sata drives
[04:07] <skippy81> czer323:  firefox will crash if you have the plugins either in its installation directory or your home direcorty
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> bootlick: I use irssi (cli client).
[04:07] <Drasla> anyone know how I can log onto an IMAP server via the command line?
[04:08] <czer323> Skippy81> So, what could be causing the plugins to affect the browser?  It worked yesterday.
[04:08] <bootlick> Thnaks tonyyarusso
[04:08] <jasonmansey> also, im not too familiar with linux, can i write to a ntsf drive
[04:08] <kholerabbi> can't write to NTFS safely, no
[04:08] <klubber> can anyone help me out? why do the "nvidia-glx" and "nvidia-settings" packages cancel each other out? when i apt-get install one, the other is being removed & vice-versa
[04:08] <Drasla> jasonmansey: yes, you can.  it's reasonably stable by this point.
[04:08] <czer323> Skippy81> I've seriously considered just wiping the drive, and reinstalling, but i'mr eally trying to avoid it. ;)
[04:08] <kholerabbi> !ubutu tell czer323 about NTFS
[04:08] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kholerabbi
[04:08] <metrix> drasla I believe you can telnet <server name> <port> I can't remember which port imap is on
[04:08] <kermitX_> klubber: you only need nvidia-glx --- it has the settings in it for "newer" cards.
[04:08] <Drasla> k.  thanks.
[04:08] <cubikdice> jasonmansey: no issues dude, and i dont think the NTFS thing works perfectly yet
[04:09] <skippy81> czer323:  no idea, but flash is dodgy - i only have expierience of it on AMD64, but i know that it will crash your system unless you remove flash form the plugins and extensions folders both in your home directory and in firefoxs installation directory
[04:09] <klubber> kermitX_: and do i still access the settings by "nvidia-settings" command?
[04:09] <jasonmansey> alright, thanks dudes.
[04:09] <kermitX_> klubber: i belive so... i just installed the sysinfo package which has a button that can call the settings program.
[04:09] <cubikdice> jasonmansey: np
[04:09] <czer323> skippy81> I really hope that Adobe will release flash 9 for linux soon. I read that they were working on it.
[04:09] <dj__> Anyone have a handle on using ubuntu as a router?
[04:10] <jasonmansey> also, like, how do i know if i can even run Ubuntu with my ethernet card and video/sound
[04:10] <skippy81> czer323:  yeah i believe we are talking about 6 months
[04:10] <Varanger> How can I enable gstreamer to support DVD's???
[04:10] <klubber> kermitX_: 10x, will try it out
[04:10] <jasonmansey> how does one find out
[04:10] <Varanger> ... in dapper
[04:10] <snappy> What would be the easiest way to get my desktop machine into a development workstation. I've tried the synaptics manager trying to select all packages from the development section but it doesnt select hte dependancies. In debian I remember using something like 'tasksel' to do this,. but tasksel in ubuntu doesnt offer much
[04:10] <Adamant1988> Jason, try the live CD then you'll know if the hardware works
[04:10] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  ok i will take you through
[04:10] <cubikdice> jasonmansey: the ubuntu forums, google, tryin the liveCD :)
[04:10] <klubber> skippy81: still interested in what's on the DVD?
[04:10] <metrix> jasonmansey: just run the live cd and see if your hardware works
[04:10] <Yendor> Is upgrading a machine from breezy (after installing automatix) to dapper a bad idea?
[04:10] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  1) open up synaptic package manager
[04:10] <Brj> which is better totem-xine or totem-gstreamer ?
[04:10] <skippy81> klubber yes :)
[04:11] <alex_mayorga> jasonmansey: it worked for me out of the CD with video/sound and ethernet
[04:11] <czer323> skippy81> *slams face into desk*  Well, i guess i'm off to reinstall then.  I need to allow for more diskspace so i'll repartition the drive whiel i'm at it.
[04:11] <kermitX_> Varanger: you can get it to read and playback dvd's but i don't believe that dvd menus are supported in the new gstreamer 0.10 -- recommend replacing your totem-gstreamer with totem-xine  -- see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for more info.
[04:11] <dj__> Can You guys See me?
[04:11] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: thanks
[04:11] <skippy81> czer323:  ok good luck :)
[04:11] <satempler> I have currently 686MB of ram but System Monitor says I am only using 15% of it and another 11% swap the applet says I am using 83% in cache and 16% in programs currently I am running VMware installing SP2 in Windows XP
[04:11] <Adamant1988> dj__ yes, we can
[04:11] <distanceisdeath> can anyone help me with psx emulation??
[04:11] <Brj> dj i can
[04:11] <czer323> dj__> omg dude, yo'ure invisible! ;)
[04:11] <dj__> ok good,
[04:11] <klubber> skippy81: well i just installed off it & it seems it contains the live & alternate install alltogether + some more common packages
[04:11] <metrix> yendor: I don't think it would be a problem, but I haven't used automatix
[04:11] <dj__> hehe:) I have grey text I don't know why
[04:11] <Adamant1988> and no I don't have a clue how to use Ubuntu as a router
[04:11] <satempler> is there somthing wrong here or am I ok
[04:11] <Varanger> kermitX_: it's ok about not having menus but I still want to use dapper gstreamer... what plugin should I use???
[04:12] <Desh> OK, I need help, while doing dist-upgrade a blue windows comes up asking me if I want to update auto.master, I ask to see a side by side comparison, now, I want to get back to the screen before so i can tell it o use the new one, but all I see is the side by side comparison and at the bottom it says (END), how do I continue?
[04:12] <skippy81> klubber:  nothing too exciting then :)
[04:12] <klubber> nope
[04:12] <czer323> grey text indicates what you typed ;)  Differentiates you from everyone else.
[04:12] <satempler> I am getting an extra 512MB later this week
[04:12] <Desh> All in a shell mind you.
[04:12] <skippy81> alex_mayorga: once your in synaptic do a search for "lame"
[04:12] <satempler> is it worth it
[04:12] <WeirdArms> argh, upgrade-manager refuses to work
[04:12] <kermitX_> varanger: i don't recall which one exactly; but i think it's going to be the 'bad' plugins from multiverse.  just get all of them for 0.10 ;)
[04:12] <dj__> oh I see, cool
[04:12] <Yendor> metrix: Thanks...Hope my problems aren't because I installed automatix
[04:12] <maddy_> WeirdArms in hoses?
[04:13] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  i want you to tick the following boxes "gstreamer0.8-lame" "lame" "lame-extras" and click apply
[04:13] <metrix> yendor: what is your problem?
[04:13] <WeirdArms> maddy: 2006-06-06 12:11:31,825 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'
[04:13] <weew> Antivirus Apps??????????????????????????????????????????
[04:13] <jasonmansey> alright, thanks guys
[04:13] <jasonmansey> i guess im just going to use the live cd
[04:13] <metrix> weew: virus's on linux?? that's unheard of... ;)
[04:13] <WeirdArms> maddy: I've got no broken packages installed, that I can see
[04:13] <maddy_> ic..
[04:13] <dj__> well, happy as I am now with the NET running on one Eithernet card, the other is hooked to my XP system, and I need to get them to talk.  I set one ETH card to a static IP and told windows that static ip was its dns server
[04:13] <weew> don't lie
[04:13] <maddy_> no clue m8
[04:14] <weew> what apps can i use though???????????//
[04:14] <rendo> Need help fast fast fast! :P
[04:14] <WeirdArms> cheers anyway
[04:14] <rendo> I have a buddy trying to burn the .iso for 6.06
[04:14] <rpedro> !tell weew about clamav
[04:14] <Yendor> metrix: Performed Breezy-to-dapper upgrade today.  Now lvm2 fails to install, ndiswrapper doesn't work, USB doesn't work, eth0 doesn't work.
[04:14] <NoUse> weew there is one called 'stop using so many question marks'
[04:14] <rendo> And it won't recognize the disk from the bios
[04:14] <Yendor> metrix: No networking, no mouse.  Badness all around.  :(
[04:14] <rendo> What format does he need to burn the cd as?
[04:14] <rendo> Boot or Data?
[04:14] <metrix> weew: honestly I haven't heard of an open source anti virus app
[04:14] <rendo> And doesi t matter that his machine is a Compaq?
[04:14] <NoUse> !antivirus
[04:14] <Itomeshi> clamav?
[04:14] <ubotu> you propably don't need antivirus software. If you are really paranoid you might want to install chkrootkit. Also see !clamav.
[04:14] <Yendor> Oh yeah...No PCMCIA either.  Not that I use those.
[04:15] <h3h_timo> !java
[04:15] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:15] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: that would have me set? it Errors out because of the 6.06 update
[04:15] <h3h_timo> does dapper automatically come with java installed?
[04:15] <h3h_timo> !javadebs
[04:15] <bimberi> h3h_timo: no
[04:15] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[04:15] <Itomeshi> no
[04:15] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  are you saying the packages didnt install?
[04:15] <h3h_timo> bimberi, thanks
[04:15] <metrix> yendor: it sounds more like you installed a newer kernel without newer modules or something.. i'm not sure
[04:15] <Yendor> On boot, message about genrtc, as well
[04:15] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: got my notes done, what then?
[04:15] <Yendor> metrix: No new kernel installed.
[04:15] <Itomeshi> does anyone have xgl working on 6.06 LTS?
[04:15] <yurka> hey guys
[04:15] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:16] <yurka> i have a question
[04:16] <alex_mayorga> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[04:16] <bimberi> h3h_timo: np :) (java available from ubuntu repositories post-install)
[04:16] <yurka> please help me!
[04:16] <rendo> Can anyone answer my question so I can help my buddy out?
[04:16] <disinterested_pe> i finally got streamlink to work
[04:16] <h3h_timo> bimberi, got it, just took me awhile to get it...
[04:16] <Itomeshi> is he given any format options?
[04:16] <disinterested_pe> i cant get flash installed
[04:16] <yurka> i really want to play diablo2 on linux
[04:16] <yurka> i hear i need wine
[04:16] <yurka> how do i install wine
[04:16] <rendo> yurka: You do.
[04:16] <rendo> yurka: sudo apt-get install wine
[04:16] <h3h_timo> bimberi, it says i cant find sun-java5-jre
[04:16] <distanceisdeath> whats wine?
[04:16] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  you need to close update manger, only one update program (apt-get synaptic update) can run at a time
[04:16] <ian_> yurka: right, enough wine and you won't want to play any more
[04:16] <weew> anyone others antivirus vendors, im not really looing for an open source antivirus app. Panada offers av and its for linux
[04:17] <yurka> lol ian
[04:17] <rendo> FUCK
[04:17] <Itomeshi> track at once should be fine, just burn the iso to the disc - not as a file on the disc, but as an image....
[04:17] <skippy81> alex_mayorga: then repeat what i said
[04:17] <skippy81> !language
[04:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:17] <distanceisdeath> whats wine?
[04:17] <maddy_> go windows if u want to use antivirus weew
[04:17] <maddy_> :)
[04:17] <skippy81> distanceisdeath:  Wine Is Not an Emulator :)
[04:17] <ian_> distanceisdeath: MS Windows compatability layer
[04:18] <skippy81> distanceisdeath:  it lets you run *some* windows programs in linux
[04:18] <h3h_timo> weew, i havent heard of too many virus's for linux lol try windows
[04:18] <distanceisdeath> skippy
[04:18] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: is it better to stay in 5.10 then?
[04:18] <distanceisdeath> i swear
[04:18] <bimberi> !wine
[04:18] <yurka> dam it
[04:18] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[04:18] <metrix> yendor: i'm not sure what your problem is but if it were my guess I would try to force a kernel upgrade or something... that is where I would start..
[04:18] <skippy81> alex_mayorga: no 6.06 is far better
[04:18] <distanceisdeath> so what is the point of wine?
[04:18] <Bladesonfire> Does anyone know how to get all multimedia keys to show up from a USB keyboard?
[04:18] <Yendor> metrix: Will give it a go.
[04:18] <aesxa> Is there no Kuickshow? I like Kuickshow : ( Do I have to do something else to get KDE apps? I installed amarok though : (
[04:18] <ian_> distanceisdeath: "for running windows programs on linux"
[04:18] <skippy81> distanceisdeath:  it lets you run windows applications
[04:18] <Yendor> metrix: Oh, wait.  I can't.  No network.
[04:18] <acke> Hey guys, i have some files that i need to move from my linux machine to my windows machine. they are on the same network. how do i find my windows machine on the network??
[04:18] <specialbuddy> what do I need for h264?
[04:18] <weew> no i HATE WINDOWS, i just don;t understand how this os ubuntu  is immune to viruses
[04:19] <BioVorE> specialbuddy: mplayer will do it
[04:19] <metrix> yendor: can you access a CD?
[04:19] <specialbuddy> ok
[04:19] <specialbuddy> thanks
[04:19] <Fujitsu> weew, nobody writes them, plus it's better designed, so it's more resistant.
[04:19] <wykd> does anyone know of a good TV capture program for linux? I want a simple program for watching and recording TV from my wintv go card. mythtv is hard to set up, and more then I need
[04:19] <h3h_timo> if you use wine, can you basically install any windows application??
[04:19] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: then I'll better wait the last half hour, been a looong download here in Monterrey MX
[04:19] <skippy81> distanceisdeath:  sorry if i confused you "Wine is not an emulator" is what WINE stands for.  While it is not technically an emulator - it is in practical terms
[04:19] <Yendor> metrix: Not sure; haven't tried since upgrading.
[04:19] <Yendor> metrix Whatcha got in mind?
[04:19] <ian_> weew: it's not imune, it's just that the risk right now is nearly 0
[04:19] <aesxa> weew, it's not immune, it's just that most people don't make viruses to infect Linux desktops.
[04:19] <distanceisdeath> will wine run any windows app?
[04:19] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  ok, well let us know when you have upgraded, and i will take you through the mp3 ripping
[04:19] <Fujitsu> distanceisdeath, some.
[04:19] <Noah0504> Hey all.
[04:19] <NoUse> weew if you want to waste memory and CPU cycles on a virus scanner, you can, but you don't have to
[04:19] <aesxa> weew, and it's easier to fix when a virus comes out.
[04:19] <skippy81> distanceisdeath:  no, it will run "a few" or "some" :)
[04:20] <distanceisdeath> right
[04:20] <alex_mayorga> wykd: I've heard of Freevo and MythTV
[04:20] <distanceisdeath> i still need that emulator if anyone wants to help
[04:20] <aesxa> distanceisdeath, no. WINE's website has a big database with the status of various apps.
[04:20] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: thanks, appreciated
[04:20] <skippy81> distanceisdeath: you can check the wine website, they keep a database of what works and what doesnt, so you dont waste your time
[04:20] <metrix> yendor: the new kernel will be on an ubuntu cd, so if you can add that as your only ubuntu repository then you could atleast get something working
[04:20] <distanceisdeath> right
[04:20] <acke> weeeooow. i just wrote smb://iptowinmachine and i found it loool :)
[04:20] <skippy81> aesxa: sorry, parotting you mate :)
[04:20] <aesxa> skippy81, np ;)
[04:20] <Itomeshi> automatix also will install wine
[04:21] <wykd> ok, thanks!
[04:21] <Fujitsu> !automarix
[04:21] <ubotu> Fujitsu: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:21] <skippy81> what is the deal with automatix - is it noob friendly ? is it an approach i should suggest to people who dont know much about linux?
[04:21] <Fujitsu> Itomeshi, do NOT suggest that.
[04:21] <Fujitsu> !automatix
[04:21] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fujitsu
[04:21] <Fujitsu> :O
[04:21] <NoUse> someone erased ubotu's memory of automatix
[04:21] <Fujitsu> !undelete automatix
[04:21] <ubotu> Fujitsu: Successfully recovered 'automatix'.  Have fun now.
[04:21] <Itomeshi> try www.getautomatix.com
[04:21] <Fujitsu> !automatix\
[04:21] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fujitsu
[04:21] <Fujitsu> !automatix
[04:21] <skippy81> yeah NoUse its because of the flamewars that have been going on
[04:21] <aesxa> What version of X does Dapper Drake use? I think that's the release I'm using, I just downloaded the CD today.
[04:21] <J^Man> I'm in serious need of help getting dapper installed - seems no matter what I do, I can't get X work properly
[04:21] <h3h_timo> umm... whats up with automatix?? if it sucks so bad why would anyone use it??
[04:22] <Fujitsu> Itomeshi, DO NOT suggest that.
[04:22] <Yendor> !automatix
[04:22] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[04:22] <Itomeshi> huh?
[04:22] <J^Man> all I get is a black screen...cant' ctrl-alt-backspace, nor ctrl-alt-f1
[04:22] <Fujitsu> Itomeshi, Automatix destroys systems.
[04:22] <Fujitsu> Thanks, Yendor.
[04:22] <Itomeshi> how so?
[04:22] <Fujitsu> Itomeshi, it is dangerous.
[04:22] <dj__> do you guys think there is a networking channel on here?
[04:22] <distanceisdeath> who here programs in python? im too lazy to go to the irc
[04:22] <bimberi> !automatix
[04:22] <ubotu> [automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[04:22] <wykd> how do I add a database to a mysql server from terminal?
[04:22] <Itomeshi> Ok, is Easy Ubuntu any better?
[04:23] <aesxa> wykd, log in, CREATE DATABASE database;
[04:23] <bimberi> huh?
[04:23] <skippy81> how are you guys updating the bots memory? can anyone add knowledge to the bot?
[04:23] <h3h_timo> !tell
[04:23] <bimberi> skippy81: yes
[04:23] <NoUse> !tell skippy81 about ubotu
[04:23] <Fujitsu> Itomeshi, EasyUbuntu is good
[04:23] <Fujitsu> !easyubuntu
[04:23] <skippy81> kewl !! :)
[04:23] <ubotu> somebody said easyubuntu was an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[04:23] <J^Man> anyone got any hints for getting Dapper's X to work on a Radeon Xpress 200M?
[04:23] <wykd> aesxa: what is the exact command?
[04:23] <h3h_timo> !tell h3h_timo about frostwire
[04:23] <Hibrid> !easybuntu
[04:23] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hibrid
[04:23] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell J^Man about ati
[04:23] <bimberi> (someone must have unforgotten the automatix factoid)
[04:24] <Fujitsu> bimberi, I told it to unforget it.
[04:24] <gambit> how do i remove password completely
[04:24] <Fujitsu> bimberi, it's an old one, but I'll get the latest one back...
[04:24] <bimberi> Fujitsu: ah, nice one :)
[04:24] <Yendor> gambit: Why would you do that?
[04:24] <aesxa> wykd, if you have the app installed already, you should just be able to use mysql. To connect to something, mysql -l login -p -h hostname
[04:24] <J^Man> Fujitsu - don't all those assume you've gotten X running in some way?
[04:24] <aesxa> -p tells it the host requires a password
[04:24] <Fujitsu> I wonder who removed it...
[04:24] <skippy81> gambit:  you cant, but you can automatically get logged into Gnome
[04:24] <Fujitsu> J^Man, no.
[04:24] <Itomeshi> ok. One other quick question. I had XGL on one of the dapper flights, but I'm afraid the old instructions might break something. Has anyone gotten it working on fglrx in 6.06 LTS?
[04:24] <gambit> ty
[04:24] <maddy_> how do i check if i have usccessfully upgrade do dapper?
[04:24] <wykd> my issue is MythTV, which is having issues connecting to my MySQL server. I was going to try creating a new account, to see if something went wrong with the first one....
[04:25] <skippy81> gambit:  you can get automatically logged in with system > admin > login scree
[04:25] <reid> I got "c++ compiler cannot create executables" error during a ./configure
[04:25] <Codenut> can I retrive sources.list from the install cd?
[04:25] <h3h_timo> anyone, why cant i find the sun-java5-jre when i try to install it with sudo apt-get
[04:25] <J^Man> OK, i've done the instructions on the wiki - I got the same thing from another site
[04:25] <gambit> skippy81: ty
[04:25] <aesxa> wykd, Ah. Install the mysql cli and then try mysql -l login -p -h localhost
[04:25] <skippy81> maddy_:  "lsb_release -a" in a terminal should help you
[04:25] <Fujitsu> ubotu, forget automatix
[04:25] <ubotu> i forgot automatix, Fujitsu
[04:25] <Fujitsu> ubotu, automatix is automatix is a piece of cr*p that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[04:25] <ubotu> Fujitsu: what are you talking about?
[04:26] <aesxa> I think MythTV prompts you to create the username and password on that database during setup, yes? Use whatever you put in there.
[04:26] <Fujitsu> ubotu, automatix is <reply> automatix is a piece of cr*p that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[04:26] <ubotu> okay, Fujitsu
[04:26] <Fujitsu> In the immortal words of Seveas:
[04:26] <Fujitsu> !automatix
[04:26] <ubotu> automatix is a piece of cr*p that wrecks your system. DO NOT use it
[04:26] <Fujitsu> Better.
[04:26] <skippy81> lol :)
[04:26] <Adamant1988> what's wrong with automatix?
[04:26] <distanceisdeath> haha
[04:26] <wykd> aesxa: I am not sure, it didn't seem to the first time, it was working till I rebooted
[04:26] <Fujitsu> That's what Seveas set it to this morning.
[04:26] <malcolmb> is there an alternative to automatix? or just forget it altogether?
[04:26] <Itomeshi> Uh.... that's really... descriptive and unbiased
[04:26] <skippy81> i can see flames coming when the automatix boys come online
[04:26] <J^Man> any other ideas? or am i just screwed - which is funny, because I was able to get an earlier beta of Dapper working just fine
[04:26] <Fujitsu> skippy81, it happens anyway.
[04:26] <wykd> aexsa: anyway, I have to go, but thanks for your help
[04:26] <Itomeshi> EasyUbuntu is AFAIHH better
[04:27] <reid> what does "c++ compiler cannot create executables" mean?
[04:27] <Fujitsu> reid, you need to install the `build-essential' package.
[04:27] <malcolmb> afaihh? (fill me in pls)
[04:27] <distanceisdeath> it cannot create an .eve
[04:27] <Fujitsu> Itomeshi, that's right.
[04:27] <skippy81> Fujitsu:  yeah well they dont help themselves, i agree with that :)
[04:27] <maddy_> but i get this error with grep pakkege
[04:27] <distanceisdeath> .exe*
[04:27] <kewball> ironman
[04:27] <Itomeshi> As far as I have heard
[04:27] <Fujitsu> Automatix is dangerous.
[04:27] <specialbuddy> does flash not work with firefox anymore?
[04:27] <reid> thanks Fujitsu!!!!
[04:27] <Fujitsu> distanceisdeath, what are you on?
[04:27] <SAM_theman> Ok guys i am back
[04:27] <bimberi> Fujitsu: that would be a better factoid :P
[04:27] <h3h_timo> lol fellow ubuntuans!! quick question!!
[04:27] <aesxa> wykd, sorry, I don't think I can help then. Try #MythTV.
[04:27] <Fujitsu> specialbuddy, it works, if you install it.
[04:27] <Codenut> can anyone help me with extracting sources.list from the cd?
[04:27] <blanky> !dialup
[04:27] <ubotu> I heard dialup is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[04:27] <SAM_theman> I had a little internet problem I have a bad router
[04:27] <alex_mayorga> J^Man: mail your video card vendor to support Ubuntu ;)
[04:28] <specialbuddy> do I install the version from synaptic?
[04:28] <kyledye> !icons
[04:28] <ubotu> If you have missing icons after upgrading to Breezy, change theme at System -> Preferences -> Theme
[04:28] <matthew_w> Hey, no matter what I do my microphone simply will not work, any suggestions?  Also, I'm having all of the same sound problems I was having on Breezy
[04:28] <Itomeshi> !xgl
[04:28] <ubotu> xgl is, like, totally, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[04:28] <bazh] > having problems getting my voodoo5 card to work right w/ ubuntu[breezy]  anyone willing to help?
[04:28] <Marineboy> !kde
[04:28] <specialbuddy> fugitsu, did you do a manual install?
[04:28] <kholerabbi> Whats the best way toe end an applications process?
[04:28] <Fujitsu> specialbuddy, install flashplugin-nonfree.
[04:29] <distanceisdeath> oh crap
[04:29] <specialbuddy> where do I find that?
[04:29] <skippy81> bazh] :  have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ? you should be able to select the voodoo x driver that way
[04:29] <distanceisdeath> how do you install flash in konqueror?
[04:29] <Marineboy> Can you install KDE on Breezy?
[04:29] <distanceisdeath> yes
[04:29] <maikol> Marineboy: yes
[04:29] <Fujitsu> Marineboy, install `kubuntu-desktop'.
[04:29] <NoUse> Marineboy sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:29] <kholerabbi> you can install anything on ubuntu you want
[04:29] <specialbuddy> get kubuntu Marineboy
[04:29] <MaKkY> Hello, I need help installing my printer on Ubuntu... please help
[04:29] <Fujitsu> Marineboy, what I said.
[04:29] <Fujitsu> !helpme
[04:29] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[04:30] <blanky> !mp3
[04:30] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:30] <J^Man> I can't even get any debug output, cause the minute X tries to start, the entire system locks up - I can't even get back to a console
[04:30] <skippy81> yeah Marineboy if you use aptitude it makes it easier to remove it if you decide you dont want to keep it
[04:30] <kholerabbi> How do I end a process?
[04:30] <blanky> !mountwindows
[04:30] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:30] <Fujitsu> blanky, please use a /msg if you want to do stuff like that.
[04:30] <disinterested_pe> y in the heck cant ubuntu install flash plugin when a site requires it like windows?
[04:30] <blanky> Fujitsu, thanks...
[04:30] <chotchki> hey is there any way to switch a system from 64-bit to 32-bit without wiping the hard disk?
[04:30] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell kholerabbi about kill
[04:30] <kholerabbi> cheers
[04:30] <Fujitsu> chotchki, not really.
[04:30] <skippy81> kholerabbi:  use "top" to see the main processes, and "kill 7876" etc to kill em
[04:30] <MaKkY> Printer setup help
[04:30] <distanceisdeath> how do i install flash in konqueror? or is that a kubuntu?
[04:30] <chotchki> Fujitsu: back up and restore is it?
[04:30] <Fujitsu> MaKkY, ask the question.
[04:31] <Marineboy> NoUse thanks.
[04:31] <Ron_o> or "killall' and the name of the app.
[04:31] <Marineboy> Skippy thanks.
[04:31] <Fujitsu> chotchki, backup your home directory, reinstall, restore your home directory.
[04:31] <chotchki> k, just checking...
[04:31] <Ron_o> or 'xkill' and put the skull and bones on the window.
[04:31] <skippy81> distanceisdeath:  you would have more luck in the kubuntu forum - most peeps in here dont use konqueror
[04:31] <Marineboy> skippy: will i need to remove gnome afterwords?
[04:31] <jkimball4> has anyone had any luck installing mod_perl on dapper?
[04:31] <skippy81> Marineboy: no you can have both and select between em on the login screen
[04:32] <MaKkY> Fujitsu: I need to print; yet i do not know how to setup my printer my default printer right now, is.... "Generic Printer"
[04:32] <skippy81> Marineboy:  at the end of the install it will ask you which desktop manager to use, i recomend you keep "GDM" it looks better
[04:32] <Fujitsu> jkimball4, mod_perl for what?
[04:32] <Marineboy> skippy: thanks, i tryed to upgrade to dapper got just about done and it terminated :/ it was creating database.
[04:32] <skippy81> Marineboy: when you log in, you can just select "gnome session" or "kde session"
[04:32] <Fujitsu> MaKkY, run the new printer tool, and select the proper driver, in System->Administration->Printing.
[04:32] <Marineboy> okay.
[04:32] <Marineboy> I seen someone running KDE and i liked it
[04:32] <Marineboy> looks simular to windows.
[04:33] <Yendor> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[04:33] <skippy81> Marineboy:  yeah its hard to find an unbiased answer to whihc is better
[04:33] <jkimball4> Fujitsu: I've been trying to get libapache2-mod-perl2 working under apache to serve perl processed documents, but it's not working
[04:33] <Yendor> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:33] <stbrenner> anyone here use k9copy?
[04:33] <Yendor> Bind socket to interface: No such device
[04:33] <skippy81> i personally hate KDE and love Gnome Marineboy, but everyone is different
[04:33] <Daemonic> has 6.06 improved much over 5.04?
[04:33] <Fujitsu> jkimball4, ahh. The apache2 module. You could have said :)
[04:33] <gambit> can i format hard drive from terminal?
[04:33] <Fujitsu> Daemonic, a lot!
[04:33] <Yendor> Failed to bring up eth0
[04:33] <MaKkY> Fujitsu... THANK YOU! ;)
[04:33] <skippy81> Daemonic:  yes its at least 50 times better
[04:33] <Fujitsu> Daemonic, 5.04 is two versions old.
[04:33] <skippy81> Daemonic: breezy was rubbish in comparision
[04:33] <Marineboy> Yeah skippy
[04:33] <Fujitsu> Daemonic, 6.06 is infinitely better.
[04:33] <Fujitsu> No problem, MaKkY!
[04:33] <disinterested_pe> ive got mozilla browser set up better than firefox lol
[04:33] <Daemonic> awesome. I'm downloading 6.06 to try it out then.
[04:34] <distanceisdeath> kubuntu irc kind of sucks
[04:34] <maikol> too bad i dont have enough space to upgrade
[04:34] <skippy81> disinterested_pe:  plain moz browser is good, not to be underrated - i still prefer Ephihany in gnome though
[04:34] <Fujitsu> maikol, how much do you have free.
[04:34] <Fujitsu> *?
[04:34] <XiCillin> man i just installed ubuntu 6.06 (been using since warty) and man 6.06 is so f*ckin sexy
[04:34] <maikol> 17%
[04:34] <maikol> about 300 megs
[04:35] <Daemonic> ahh.. one hour and I will try it. =D
[04:35] <TigerWolf> yea XiCillin - it definately is
[04:35] <skippy81> hey does anyone know if Debian stable is a lot more "dated" than dapper?
[04:35] <Daemonic> does it have media support out of the box yet or must I track stuff down still?
[04:35] <intelikey> dated ?
[04:35] <bootlick> What do I need to use the "make" command?
[04:35] <Fujitsu> Daemonic, it's pretty easy to instll it all.
[04:35] <maikol> Daemonic: depends on what you want
[04:35] <TigerWolf> Daemonic: you mean mp3 support?
[04:35] <Fujitsu> bootlick, install `build-essential'
[04:35] <stbrenner> k9copy is slow as hades
[04:35] <skippy81> intelikey:  soz i mean are the kernel / packages a lot older?
[04:35] <intelikey> skippy81 dated ?
[04:35] <MaKkY> Fujitsu: How do i setup my scanner?
[04:35] <disinterested_pe> skippy i use eppiany too ive got mozilla set up to play streamlink though
[04:35] <bootlick> Thanks
[04:35] <Daemonic> TigerWolf, mp3, avi, etc..
[04:35] <bootlick> Fujisui
[04:36] <TigerWolf> Daemonic: PM
[04:36] <Fujitsu> MaKkY, just plug it in, and run Applications->Graphics->XSane
[04:36] <intelikey> skippy81 some....lot  depends on your perspective   but yes
[04:36] <MaKkY> Fujitsu, but i keep getting an error when i try that
[04:36] <Fujitsu> MaKkY, what error?
[04:36] <MaKkY> hold on...
[04:37] <bazh] > anyone able to help me?
[04:37] <Daemonic> and one more thing.. is it going to be a pain to get support for my ATI x700 pro?
[04:37] <intelikey> skippy81 iirc the default kernel for sarge is 2.4
[04:37] <babo> So I have two partitions ... /boot and /  ... I want to run e2fsck. Can I just unmount my / partition ... ?
[04:37] <Fujitsu> Daemonic, it's fairly painless.
[04:37] <Fujitsu> babo, no.
[04:38] <Fujitsu> babo, you need to boot into recovery mode.
[04:38] <intelikey> babo no but you can remount,ro
[04:38] <skippy81> ah i see intelikey, well im not really after an ultra stable system - more one to play around.  I might give deb unstable a try though
[04:38] <babo> intlikey: when I try umount it tells me that device is busy ...
[04:38] <Fujitsu> intelikey, I wouldn't advise doing that unless in single-user mode :)
[04:38] <Fujitsu> babo, you need to reboot in recovery mode and:
[04:38] <Fujitsu> sudo mount -o remount,ro /
[04:38] <MaKkY> Fujitsu: falied to open device 'device name': Error during device I/O
[04:39] <Fujitsu> MaKkY, what kind of scanner is it/
[04:39] <Fujitsu> *?
[04:39] <intelikey> Fujitsu i wouldn't advise rebooting unless it's windows  ;p
[04:39] <babo> Fujitsu: it's on a remote server at my host .... :-(
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[04:39] <ajmitch_> lovely
[04:39] <Fujitsu> babo, hmm.
[04:39] <intelikey> babo don't fsck a remote system.
[04:39] <babo> Fujitsu: I'd really like to run chkrootkit over it as well ...
[04:39] <wims> hmmm, some of my 'system tray'(sorry, i only know the windows term for it) icons start to appear in minimized programs at the desktop instead of in the tray. Anybody know how to fix this =
[04:39] <kholerabbi> Whats the terminal for removing a program with aptitude?
[04:40] <Fujitsu> kholerabbi, sudo aptitude remove whatever
[04:40] <MaKkY> Fujitsu: its an HP its a printer/copier/scanner/fax all-in-one..... yet the printer, fax, & copy work
[04:40] <kholerabbi> ok fujistu thanks
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> ajmitch_: Special keys bug?
[04:40] <Fujitsu> MaKkY, it works fine for me, and I've got one. What model? PSC...?
[04:40] <pacoTaco> http://fedexfurniture.com/ funniest thing ive seen in ages.
[04:40] <MaKkY> Fujitsu: PSC 2210
[04:41] <Fujitsu> MaKkY, hmm.
[04:41] <skippy81> wims:  i think it always works that way im afraid :( only stuff like printing will ONLY appear in system tray area
[04:41] <Fujitsu> My PSC1210 works fine.
[04:41] <Pepino> hello, when my machine boots, there's only 99 numbers and it hangs, any idea why?
[04:41] <gambit> can i format hard drive from terminal
[04:41] <aesxa> Argh. What version of X is Dapper Drake using?
[04:41] <samuel_> sudo command to install kubuntu under ubuntu plz?
[04:42] <intelikey> Pepino your boot loader is hosed.  reinstall grub/lilo
[04:42] <skippy81> pacoTaco: your link is excellent :)
[04:42] <wims> skippy81, so you say that my update notification will not appear in the notification area, but instead in a minimized program at my desktop ?
[04:42] <samuel_> sudo command to install kubuntu under ubuntu plz?
[04:42] <BenPA> hi all ... can someone point me in the right direction as to how to create a ppp connection
[04:42] <Pepino> intelikey, can i do that from a live-CD?
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> samuel_: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop (Please write it down this time.)
[04:42] <samuel_> ta
[04:42] <pacoTaco> Thanks skippy81 I kinda feel bad for the guy
[04:42] <reduz> I have a question! how do I specify some module options? I need to set bttv to use specific module parameters but i dont know where to do that nowadays.. I also want to make it load snd_seq from alsa by default,since it doesmt seem to do it on boot
[04:42] <samuel_> lol
[04:42] <intelikey> Pepino yes you van.
[04:42] <skippy81> wins the update notifation = only in systray, but once you run update it should appear on hte bar
[04:42] <intelikey> can
[04:42] <samuel_> sorry...i'm slack
[04:43] <samuel_> appreciate it mate.
[04:43] <bootlick> Using the make command, which works now, thanks Fujitsu, i get the error "Cant Find Kernel Build Files" Is there another package I should install?
[04:43] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell BenPA about PPP
[04:43] <skippy81> pacoTaco: i like the shot of him at his laptop doing the cheesy corp tech support pose :)
[04:43] <Fujitsu> bootlick, linux-header-386
[04:43] <bootlick> Thanks Fujitsu
[04:43] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell BenPA about modem
[04:43] <Fujitsu> OOps.
[04:43] <Fujitsu> linux-headers-386
[04:43] <XiCillin> why isn't xchat included in 6.06?
[04:43] <Pepino> intelikey, ok, let me try it, I'll be back, thanks
[04:43] <Clujo> benpa- if you add an app to the task bar you may see modem monitor.  its a good dialer
[04:43] <Fujitsu> XiCillin, because Gaim does it.
[04:44] <XiCillin> oh
[04:44] <XiCillin> sweet
[04:44] <MaKkY> Fujitsu, got any solutions?
[04:44] <Fujitsu> Although everybody in their right mind uses XChat...
[04:44] <Fujitsu> MaKkY, none.
[04:44] <bootlick> How did you know I had a 386 Fujistsu? :>
[04:44] <jasay> MaKkY, how is your printer connected?
[04:44] <MaKkY> jasay, USB...
[04:45] <Adamant1988> how well does that Easy Ubuntu thing work out?
[04:45] <Adamant1988> it sounds too good to be true
[04:45] <markgrif> Very well. I can watch dvds on my laptop now.
[04:45] <darkgamer20> has anyone successfully install SAP NetWeaver on Ubuntu?
[04:45] <jasay> MaKkY, hmm.  I had to feed my photosmart the lan address since it's networked. Can't help with USB.
[04:45] <voraistos> what do u mean ?
[04:45] <skippy81> Adamant1988:  i think it works ok, but only use it if you really need it - most users are perfectly capable of doing what Easybuntu does themselves
[04:46] <MaKkY> Fujitsu, is there any other scanning programs?
[04:46] <Adamant1988> Yeah, I'm capapble of doing all that I'm sure, but the fact is I don't want to do it, I think it should be done at the start.
[04:46] <skippy81> Adamant1988:  and it is always safer to do stuff yourself than run scripts
[04:46] <markgrif> Yeah, its in the wiki.
[04:46] <Fujitsu> MaKkY, all of them use SANE, so notr really.
[04:46] <Fujitsu> skippy81, not always.
[04:46] <skippy81> Adamant1988:  yeah  but its copyright infringement issues
[04:46] <Adamant1988> But I'm looking at Ubuntu as a possible desktop solution and that script could save me hours of work
[04:46] <Fujitsu> Adamant1988, use it. It's safe.
[04:47] <skippy81> Adamant1988:  use it then
[04:47] <cdubya> so everyone get on Dapper yet? heh
[04:47] <voraistos> Fujitsu: i totally agree with u. for some reason other people's builds are always better than mine ;)
[04:47] <Adamant1988> Ok, I still have to finish DLing Ubuntu though...  I was thinking about putting Linspire on my system, but maybe I'll do the Ubuntu thing
[04:47] <Fujitsu> Adamant1988, please go with Ubuntu :)
[04:47] <markgrif> I didn't check off for a browser plug-in. I apt-geted the mplayer one instead.
[04:47] <MaKkY> Fujitsu, ok... well, thanks... atleast i can print :D  also, is there a program i can use to make a 'book cover' i need to make one for english, yet it has to have all the information about the book I read
[04:47] <intelikey> hmmmm to be removed;   dbus* gnome* gnome-core* gnome-desktop-environment* gnome-office*
[04:47] <intelikey>   gnome-power-manager* gnome-session* gnome-volume-manager* hal* rhythmbox*
[04:47] <krazykit> Adamant1988: linspire is a joke.  their software repos are totally outdated.
[04:48] <Fujitsu> intelikey, what are you removing?
[04:48] <Adamant1988> I love it on my laptop. =\
[04:48] <Fujitsu> And purging as well!?
[04:48] <skippy81> Adamant1988:  the only think liinspire has over ubuntu is the fact that they pay companies so they can bundle proprietary stuff, in every other way linspire is inferior
[04:48] <intelikey> dbus
[04:48] <Fujitsu> intelikey, WHY!?
[04:48] <Fujitsu> That's suicide
[04:48] <Adamant1988> how does ubuntu do with hardware detection?
[04:48] <voraistos> well
[04:48] <hyphenated> Adamant1988: you'll find out when you boot the CD you're downloading ;-)
[04:48] <Adamant1988> like Palm Pilots, Printers, Cameras all that.
[04:48] <cdubya> Adamant1988, picked up everything on my laptop out of the box.
[04:48] <skippy81> Adamant1988:  very good, try the "desktop" install CD - its  a live CD
[04:48] <intelikey> suicide hehhe that's a silly saying.
[04:49] <markgrif> It got my wireless up on my laptop. No Hassles.
[04:49] <Adamant1988> awesome
[04:49] <markgrif> I have a Thinkpad r31, btw
[04:49] <Adamant1988> thanks guys
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> Adamant1988: Detection was great for me.  The only thing that didn't work ootb was the winmodem, b/c the driver isn't free.
[04:49] <cdubya> Toshiba A55 here....picked up wireless good here, too
[04:49] <jasay> MaKkY, does lsusb show your printer?
[04:49] <Fujitsu> markgrif, I'ved it use 5.10 on an R31, it runs pretty well.
[04:49] <cdubya> ewww, winmodem.....nice tony.
[04:49] <cdubya> :-)
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, I know.
[04:49] <cdubya> I remember those.
[04:49] <Fujitsu> jasay, it's just scanning that's not working.
[04:50] <MaKkY> jasay, printer, yes printer works
[04:50] <cdubya> tony, having a good summer?
[04:50] <markgrif> I did have to edit my grub config though. so I could actually read console.
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: So far.
[04:50] <XiCillin> wahts the point of a buddy list when using gaim as an irc client? theres nothing there
[04:50] <cdubya> good deal.
[04:50] <darkgamer20> are there any instructions on how to install a trial version of SAP NetWeaver on Ubuntu 6.06?
[04:50] <Daemonic> err.. I just remembered.. I watch a lot of tv online with ess.tv.. it streams the shows and in windows i use winamp to watch them.. will I be able to in ubuntu?
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> XiCillin: That my friend is a good question.  The even better one would be why use Gaim for IRC?
[04:50] <SAM_theman> yo people I get my New Hp laserjet 3653 printer working on Ubuntu 6.06LTS
[04:50] <skippy81> Daemonic:  depends on the codec used
[04:51] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, I do it all the time.....it just works.
[04:51] <jasay> MaKkY, take the bus id and the device id (something like 005 and 001) and try "hp-makeuri 005:001"
[04:51] <XiCillin> tonyyarusso, i just installed 6.06 and it doesn't have xchat like all the previous versions did
[04:51] <jkimball4> has anyone had any luck installing the apache mod_perl module under  dapper?
[04:51] <jasay> MaKkY, then feed the sane output to xsane.
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> XiCillin: But you can install it :)
[04:51] <intelikey> well i simply can not stumoch gah'nome   i don't know why it's so popular,  but what ever ya like i guess.
[04:51] <XiCillin> never used gaim as irc actually
[04:51] <markgrif> I burned 10 Dapper Cds and I am passing them out.
[04:51] <kholerabbi> Can i use the version of wine that googles picasa installs?
[04:51] <MaKkY> jasay... how?
[04:51] <skippy81> XiCillin:  install it, gaim sucks so hard for IRC
[04:51] <blanky> is there a gui clock I can look at
[04:51] <Fujitsu> kholerabbi, doubtful.
[04:51] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell kholerabbi about wine
[04:51] <skippy81> kholerabbi:  its a cut down version
[04:51] <XiCillin> skippy81, i've never tryed it
[04:51] <intelikey> blanky apt-cache search clock
[04:51] <XiCillin> its good enough for me
[04:51] <XiCillin> so far..
[04:51] <kholerabbi> hmm ok
[04:52] <cdubya> tony, you go ahead to Dapper yet?
[04:52] <jasay> MaKkY, do lsusb.  It will list the bus and device id's of the printer.  Then run hp-makeuri xxx:yyy where xxx is the bus id and yyy is the device id.
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Yeah - at the beta.
[04:52] <croy> Has anyone installed Dapper using the alternate cd?
[04:52] <cdubya> kewl
[04:52] <skippy81> croy:  yes worked fine
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> croy: I did.
[04:52] <cdubya> I haven't yet.....anybody's stuff break hard?
[04:52] <GodFather> What is the device name for a floppy drive?  /dev/fd0?
[04:52] <cdubya> heh
[04:52] <jkimball4> croy, yes
[04:52] <skippy81> croy:  i prefer it
[04:52] <intelikey> blanky xclock oclock and others
[04:52] <XiCillin> i like dapper's new style and themes, its about time for a change, and i like it !
[04:52] <MaKkY> jasay, can you walk through the steps? please
[04:52] <blanky> intelikey, thanks
[04:52] <cdubya> !dapper
[04:52] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[04:52] <croy> well, during the installation, a few things didn't install correctly
[04:52] <TigerWolf> PARTY TIME!
[04:52] <Zambezi> What the h does this means: "ai galera, eu instalei o amuler no meu pc mas o mesmo n possui um servidor p2p valido"? It came in the Swedish Ubuntuchannel.
[04:52] <jasay> MaKkY, pm?
[04:52] <cdubya> heh
[04:53] <croy> nothing major, but the Human theme didn't install
[04:53] <Toma-> !seveas
[04:53] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:53] <croy> and i haven't a clue what to do
[04:53] <croy> it's actually 8 things, the most noticable ubuntu-artwork
[04:53] <GodFather> help, what is the device name for a floppy drive?   /dev/fd0?
[04:53] <Fujitsu> Zambezi, why would /we/ know?
[04:53] <cdubya> heh
[04:53] <XiCillin> does anybody use ubuntu 6.06 to edit video? like from taking data off of a digital camera and digital video camera?
[04:53] <rpedro> Zambezi: it brazillian portuguese
[04:53] <skippy81> croy, are you sure it hasnt installed but is just not selected?
[04:54] <croy> i am sure
[04:54] <Zambezi> Fujitsu: I just wanna know. I hate when I don't understand.
[04:54] <blanky> intelikey, I need to see the seconds, I'm trying to use something as a timer to time myself for 2 minutes reading something
[04:54] <mcmillen> this is probably a dumb question, but -- how is it possible to sync an ipod using rhythmbox? i see several websites that say it's possible, and RB recognizes my ipod and lets me play songs off it, but i can't (e.g.) drag a song from my hard disk onto the ipod
[04:54] <intelikey> cdubya not if there is anything to loose
[04:54] <blanky> but the little clcok at the bottom in kde wont tell me
[04:54] <npodges> i'm trying to get openGL working, and i think the problem is that i had mesa installed, but when trying to uninstall mesa, it says it has to remove a lot of other packages (including ubuntu-desktop) what's the correct way to get hardware opengl working?
[04:54] <croy> skippy81:  i've tried using synaptic to install the 8 things, but it asks for the cd
[04:54] <cdubya> heh, yeah, I know....just couldn't decide if I wanted to mess with it at this point, or just dump just the necessities....should do it more often, but don't.
[04:54] <blanky> npodges, what video card
[04:54] <skippy81> croy, you need to update your sources list
[04:55] <npodges> geforce fx 5200
[04:55] <Zambezi> rpedro: I thought it was Spanish, but I ask my friend later. He speak fluent Spanish and pretty good Portugies.
[04:55] <npodges> i have the latest nvidia drivers installed
[04:55] <croy> skippy81:  you mean my repos?
[04:55] <Toma-> anyone getting a really wacky sudo error about timestamps?
[04:55] <specialbuddy> I don't get how I could play h264 with vlc before but now I can't after the upgrade
[04:55] <specialbuddy> any know what I'm missing?
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Timestamp too far in the future?
[04:55] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: you bet.
[04:56] <skippy81> croy:  " sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:56] <ThePub> Ubuntu is my first Linux install in a few years, and it left me in a panic :)
[04:56] <SAM_theman> well
[04:56] <Fujitsu> Why, ThePub?
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: A few people have come through with that - the solution involves 'touch'ing files to change the timestamps...
[04:56] <SAM_theman> !3653 hp
[04:56] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SAM_theman
[04:56] <intelikey> blanky cheers
[04:56] <ThePub> installer doesn't like serial mice it seems :)
[04:56] <SAM_theman> !hp
[04:56] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: what files?
[04:56] <blanky> lol intelikey what is it
[04:56] <skippy81> croy: heres mine http://pastebin.com/761379
[04:56] <rjian> i need hel about ubuntu can anyone help me?
[04:56] <Fujitsu> ThePub, it just can't detect them.
[04:56] <intelikey> shell script
[04:56] <Fujitsu> !helpmne
[04:56] <croy> skippy81:  okay i'll check it out
[04:56] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fujitsu
[04:56] <Fujitsu> !helpme
[04:56] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[04:56] <skippy81> croy: copy and paste :)
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Whatever it's trying to get at and complaining about I suppose.  I haven't done it myself, so I'm just winging it off memory here.
[04:57] <skippy81> croy: remember to update synaptic afterwards to get the new sources
[04:57] <Kwek> hi
[04:57] <ThePub> Fujitsu, aye.. X used to have a default serial setup though.  tbh, it wouldn't have been such an issue with the man page actually had more info under Input Devices
[04:57] <Kwek> does ubuntu have the make cmd?
[04:57] <blanky> intelikey, nice, can it do 2 minutes?
[04:57] <ThePub> oh well.. solved it :)
[04:57] <blanky> sh count_down 120 ? in seconds I believe?
[04:57] <skippy81> Kwek "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:57] <DBO> Kwek, it can if you want
[04:57] <Fujitsu> Kwek, install the package `build-essential'
[04:57] <Toma-> *sigh*
[04:58] <rjian> Can anyone help me wit networking???
[04:58] <Fujitsu> !helpme
[04:58] <Ar2No> can someone help me!.. I cannot execute command "sudo apt-get update"
[04:58] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[04:58] <Kwek> k
[04:58] <blanky> nevermind intelikey I got it
[04:58] <Kwek> thx
[04:58] <blanky> thanks intelikey
[04:58] <specialbuddy> is there an actual "mplayer" because all I see is kmplayer?
[04:58] <krazykit> specialbuddy: yeah
[04:58] <intelikey> blanky yes they can.
[04:58] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: i cant even run sudo ls
[04:58] <rjian> Can anyone help me wit networking???
[04:58] <krazykit> specialbuddy: it's like mplayer-cli or something
[04:58] <Fujitsu> specialbuddy, make sure you have `multiverse' enabled.
[04:58] <Fujitsu> rjian, ask your question!
[04:58] <krazykit> rjian: just ask the question.
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Eww.
[04:58] <specialbuddy> multiverse enabled?
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Maybe touch /usr/bin/ls?
[04:58] <specialbuddy> where do I get that
[04:58] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell specialbuddy about repos
[04:59] <ThePub> very slick install though, far better than I remember.  better than debian used to be anyhow :)
[04:59] <intelikey> blanky try count_down -h
[04:59] <Fujitsu> specialbuddy, see the link from ubotu.
[04:59] <specialbuddy> well I know about repos but I don't think I have them
[04:59] <blanky> intelikey, yeah, thanks :)
[04:59] <krazykit> oh, we got ubotu now
[04:59] <Toma-> sudo touch /usr/bin/ls
[04:59] <Toma-> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun  6 18:40:17 2006
[04:59] <rjian> networking windows and linux that can detect on windows??
[04:59] <Toma-> :)
[04:59] <intelikey> blanky np
[04:59] <Fujitsu> *has
[04:59] <krazykit> rjian: what, you mean like setting up a windows share?
[04:59] <Fujitsu> rjian, pardon?
[04:59] <poje> rjian: would you like to ask a complete question?
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: What if you do it without the sudo?  I think you have permissions for that?
[05:00] <rjian> i mean i want to create a server wit ubuntu and also on workstation windows can view me
[05:00] <Toma-> nah, permission denied
[05:00] <eric___> Hoping for some sage guidance getting Ubuntu to load up on a G3 iMac.  Any takers?
[05:00] <Fujitsu> eric___, what's it not doing?
[05:00] <Ar2No> can somebody help me!.. I cannot execute command "sudo apt-get update"
[05:00] <eric___> I put in the disk and boot.
[05:00] <skippy81> Ar2No:  why not? error message?
[05:00] <eric___> I get the initial prompt where I press enter...
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Toma-: Recovery mode?
[05:00] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: it works after i logout
[05:01] <nixuser> any information on how to enable cpu scaling in dapper drake?
[05:01] <Ar2No> skippy81, yes error msg coming out
[05:01] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: but i really dont want to have to logout everytime i need to sudo
[05:01] <eric___> I find myself thrown into Apple's open firmware prompt (white screen, black text).
[05:01] <krazykit> rjian: ah.  depends on what you want to serve.  ftp and http are easy, they don't need any special setup.  samba's a little trickier, but has excellent documentation.  samba will let windows see it in "network places"
[05:01] <Toma-> sigh. brb
[05:01] <terry> can help me I get this problem I cant open firefox and synaptic and appear in this message cannot launch entry details:failed to execute child process "gksudo"
[05:01] <eric___> Error message: Can't allocate initial device-tree chunk.
[05:01] <Fujitsu> Ar2No, what error?
[05:01] <krazykit> nixuser: depends.  what processor?
[05:01] <yahan> i have problem with the ndiswrapper this is my error when i try to install my wireless driver of windows couldn't copy /Desktop/80211BG/Winxp/neti2220.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.
[05:01] <nixuser> krazykit: celeron M
[05:01] <Ar2No> cant resolve ..... bla bla
[05:01] <Fujitsu> Be back soon, replacing Woody server with a Dapper one.
[05:01] <Ar2No> skippy81, Fujitsu cant resolve ..... bla bla
[05:01] <rjian> hmmm is it easy wit samba im using the ubuntu 5.10???
[05:02] <kholerabbi> I have installed wine, is there any configuration I should do before I install a windows program?
[05:02] <Fujitsu> Ar2No, aha.
[05:02] <Fujitsu> Ar2No, have you changed your hostname lately?
[05:02] <krazykit> nixuser: ahahahahahaha.  use the module p4_clockmod.  then you need either cpufreqd or powernowd.  i like powernowd, personally.  clocks it down when not being taxed, clocks it up when it needs more power.
[05:02] <yahan> i need help
[05:02] <eric___> Do I need to set something in yaboot?
[05:02] <Ar2No> hostname?? nope coz I'm new in ubuntu Drapper
[05:02] <Ar2No> Fujitsu, hostname?? nope coz I'm new in ubuntu Drapper
[05:02] <Toma-> damnit
[05:02] <nixuser> module p4_clockmod is that a package i can install?
[05:03] <TigerWolf> Anyone recommend a good torrent client other that azeurus (as its extemely buggy)
[05:03] <skippy81> Ar2No can you paste your entire teminal output to pastebin.com please.  Then could you also do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and paste that too please
[05:03] <blanky> intelikey, something's up with tick
[05:04] <croy> skippy81:  i'm downloading the new packages now, thanks
[05:04] <rjian> im using the Ubuntu 5.10 is it ok using samba?? i mean it is easy??
[05:04] <krazykit> nixuser: no, it might already be loaded.  `lsmod | grep clockmod`
[05:04] <skippy81> np croy
[05:04] <blanky> intelikey, basically I want to see the time as with tick, but look at the seconds too
[05:04] <nixuser> ok
[05:04] <yahan> sh3ll are you ther ?
[05:04] <eric___> So - any notion of what I need to do about this "device-tree chunk" error?
[05:05] <eric___> Many thanks in advance.
[05:05] <Ar2No> skippy81, ok i do that later, because i have to copy it to disket
[05:05] <skippy81> oh ok i see
[05:05] <blanky> intelikey, ooo nevermind I found it!
[05:05] <yahan> ihave problem with mi wireless card i have a error when i use ndiswrapper couldn't copy /Desktop/80211BG/Winxp/neti2220.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.
[05:05] <nixuser> krazykit: so i run lsmod | grep clockmod in terminal then install powernowd?
[05:06] <TigerWolf> Anyone recommend a good torrent client other that azeurus (as its extemely buggy) that works well on Drapper
[05:06] <yahan> hello ??
[05:06] <Ar2No> skippy81, can u please send me your /etc/apt/source.list I just want to make comparison
[05:06] <tiglionabbit> TigerWolf: I just use bittornado
[05:06] <krazykit> nixuser: well, doing the lsmod will tell you if p4_clockmod is loaded if it is, you can install powernowd, and it should start working.
[05:06] <skippy81> Ar2No:  http://pastebin.com/761379
[05:06] <yahan> Ar2NO you can help me ?
[05:07] <intelikey> blanky ?
[05:07] <G8trBait> Im trying to insall nvidia drivers, how can I shut down X?
[05:07] <Ar2No> yahan, help on what?
[05:07] <nixuser> krazykit: i got now message what so ever
[05:07] <blanky> intelikey, nothing, I found out what I needed :)
[05:07] <yahan> i have a problem with ndiswrapper for my wireless card
[05:07] <nixuser> no message
[05:07] <intelikey> k
[05:07] <yahan> couldn't copy /Desktop/80211BG/Winxp/neti2220.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.
[05:07] <BrianHH> Hi, Everyone.  Is there a way to make sure a window always remains on top in Gnome when it's launched?  I want XClock to always remain on top, but all I have been able to find so far is the GUI window control.  Is there some commandline option I can set in the session so that it always remains on top in startup?
[05:07] <yahan> this is the error
[05:07] <krazykit> nixuser: ok, so `sudo modprobe p4_clockmod`
[05:07] <Ar2No> skippy81, only 3 lines?
[05:07] <skippy81> TigerWolf, the 'official bittorrent' client is pretty good - http://www.bittorrent.com/
[05:08] <skippy81> yes Ar2No, standard dapper with all repositories enabled
[05:08] <nixuser> nothing
[05:08] <krazykit> nixuser: and you'll want to add it to /etc/modules
[05:08] <krazykit> nixuser: well, it shouldn't give any feedback.  do the lmod thing again.  it should show it now.
[05:08] <fullmetal> is ubuntu 5.10 ok???
[05:08] <Kwek> hi
[05:08] <Kwek> how can i update firefox to 1.5.0.4?
[05:09] <yahan> i cant install windows .inf file with ndiswrapper Ar2No
[05:09] <Ar2No> skippy81, I saw in my source list http://bn.archive...... that "bn" curious me, do u ve any idea about that?
[05:09] <MaKkY> jasay, pm sorry
[05:09] <G8trBait> Im trying to insall nvidia drivers, how can I shut down X server?  When I do sudo sh NVIDIA....... it says I cant have it open?
[05:09] <BrianHH> Kwek:  The easiest way is to download it from http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox
[05:09] <Kwek> i downloaded'
[05:09] <nixuser> freq table 4740
[05:09] <Kwek> but in new to linux
[05:09] <Ar2No> yahan, i dont know much about that... i'm sorry, cannot help with that
[05:09] <pike_> G8trBait: either alt-ctrl-bkspace or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:09] <skippy81> Ar2No: no idea, but if your just running a standard dapper system without stuff like XGL and Compiz then my 3 lines are all you need
[05:09] <nixuser> whatever that means
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> Kwek: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:09] <Kwek> i have no idea how to use the tar.gz fil
[05:09] <Kwek> k thanks
[05:09] <yahan> thanxs
[05:10] <krazykit> Kwek: man tar
[05:10] <skippy81> Ar2No:  just back up your old copy for future reference
[05:10] <pike_> G8trBait: actually to stop it sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:10] <krazykit> Kwek: read the manual page :-P
[05:10] <farous> i hate ati cards. running the fglrx drivers have serious problems with tk applications. using the native ati drivers everything is ok but the cpu load is really high anyone know of a remdi for the tk-fglrx bug/problems
[05:10] <poje> I have started to hate the fact that computing, at its core, is based on mathematics - mostly because my languages&computation course is sucking ;(
[05:10] <Ar2No> skippy81, actually I just install dapper yesterday and choosing country Brunei, I guess that is why 'bn' is there.
[05:10] <G8trBait> pike_: It seems to restart itself when I do a CTRL + ALT + 'Backspace'  - I see the login prompt, but then it goes to the ubuntu splash screen asking for username again
[05:10] <markgrif> Is the firefox that comes with Dapper self-updating?
[05:10] <yahan> well i have a another problem i have a notebook acer travelmate and i cant use 1280x800 resolution Ar2NO
[05:11] <krazykit> markgrif: not from mozilla's updater, no
[05:11] <skippy81> Ar2No:  yeah probably - that would make sense
[05:11] <G8trBait> pike_: I'll try it now
[05:11] <nixuser> krazykit: do i have to reboot in order for the speed stepping to kick in?
[05:12] <krazykit> nixuser: nope
[05:12] <Ar2No> skippy81, back to hostname, what it is actually to? any amend to it or ??
[05:12] <krazykit> nixuser: there's a cpufreq applet for gnome, i think
[05:12] <nixuser> its reporting 100% cpu usage yet
[05:12] <bootlick> What directory is the kernal stored in from drapper?
[05:12] <skippy81> Ar2No:  dont fiddle with it, its not important
[05:12] <pike_> G8trBait: youre running the nvidia.sh installer?
[05:12] <krazykit> bootlick: /boot
[05:12] <nixuser> krazykit: yeah ive enabled that applet
[05:12] <paradizelos1> hey all, how do i force the system to use specific DNS servers, rather than the ones that DHCP provides?
[05:12] <bootlick> thanks krazykit
[05:12] <G8trBait> pike_:   * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...
[05:12] <skippy81> Ar2No:  unless you have changed it in the last day, i wouldnt worry about it
[05:13] <krazykit> nixuser: well, is powernowd running?  you may need to `sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd start`
[05:13] <agamotto> Hallo all
[05:13] <madhat> paradizelos1: usually you do that by changing /etc/resolv.conf
[05:13] <nixuser> krazykit : ok thanks
[05:13] <DBO> paradizelos1, well a very hacky way to do it is by editing resolv.conf and making it read only...  there is probably a better way though
[05:13] <paradizelos1> madhat: it gets overwritten when the DHCP client renews the lease
[05:14] <paradizelos1> DBO: doesn't work, file still gets overwritten when the client renews the lease
[05:14] <madhat> see if you can chmod it so that it is read only
[05:14] <skippy81> paradizelos1:  even if its read only?
[05:14] <Ar2No> skippy81, assume that I just finished installed dapper that 1st thing I need to amend are: /etc/network/interface and /etc hosts    right??
[05:14] <DBO> paradizelos1, you made it read only?
[05:14] <paradizelos1> yes
[05:14] <nixuser> krazykat: thanks, got it working
[05:14] <jighead> paradizelos1: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and add a line like so: prepend domain-name-servers <your servers>
[05:14] <skippy81> Ar2No: i dont see why, i didnt
[05:15] <G8trBait> pike_; I was trying to run sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run
[05:15] <Ar2No> skippy81, then I type " apt-get upgrade"    right??
[05:15] <nixuser> 212 mhz lol
[05:15] <jighead> paradizelos1: you might have to remove the part that tells dhcp to fetch the dns servers too
[05:15] <krazykit> nixuser: make sure to check out powernowd --help to see a few settings.  you may want to play with it a bit
[05:15] <krazykit> nixuser: hah, that's nothing.  125 mhz :-P
[05:15] <skippy81> Ar2No:  as soon as dapper is installed just to the "sudo apt-get update"
[05:15] <bootlick> Trying to install a linux driver for a dlink ethernet dongle, while using the make config command, its asking for the Linux kernal source directory, i tried the /boot directory and no luck
[05:16] <paradizelos1> jighead: does that take a reboot to take effect?
[05:16] <paradizelos1> or does the client just parse that the next time the lease comes due
[05:16] <paradizelos1> /ghost paradizelost Rbdc9gxppw
[05:16] <paradizelos1> bah
[05:16] <skippy81> bootlick you need to download the kernel headers
[05:16] <krazykit> bootlick: oh, well, that's where the compiled kernel is.  you need to install the kernel headers.  i don't know where those get put though.  probably /usr/src
[05:16] <paradizelos1> /ghost
[05:16] <Ar2No> skippy81, no you cannot do that because you have to put gateway and so on to the /etc/network/interface to make your connection alive
[05:17] <jighead> paradizelos1: you don't have to reboot, just restart networking
[05:17] <paradizelos1> k
[05:17] <krazykit> paradizelos1: good job.  better change your password.
[05:17] <paradizelos1> yah, how do i ghost the damn thing
[05:17] <TigerWolf> How do i edit the application menus?
[05:17] <krazykit> paradizelos1: /msg nickserv ghost nick pass
[05:17] <jighead> TigerWolf: Applications Accessories Alacarte
[05:17] <bootlick> So to download the kernel headers, i would add applications? and it would be linux kernal headers i want?
[05:17] <Kwek> done
[05:17] <skippy81> Ar2No: you should speak to someone else about that, my network just works
[05:18] <paradizelos1> /ghost
[05:18] <chapium> TigerWolf: you can use alacarte
[05:18] <TigerWolf> Thanks guys
[05:18] <nixuser> so far dapper seems to work great  on this toshiba laptop
[05:18] <skippy81> bootlick just download them, they will be extracted to /usr/src, then just tell your driver program where to find them
[05:18] <Ar2No> skippy81, ok thanks for helping
[05:18] <skippy81> Ar2No:  np
[05:19] <bootlick> skippy81, what would i google to find this kernel, linux kernal 2.6.16?
[05:19] <skippy81> bootlick: not google, synaptic
[05:19] <slavik> I found a mini-PCI card that has the rt2500 chip ... should I get it to replace my broadcom card?
[05:19] <can-o-worms> is upgrading from breezy to dapper just a matter of changing sources.list?
[05:19] <krazykit> bootlick: um, if you're using 2.6.16,.. didn't you build it yourself?
[05:19] <skippy81> bootlick:  open it and search for kernel headers
[05:19] <slavik> can-o-worms: there is an easier way
[05:19] <dr_willis> slavik,  in your laptop?
[05:20] <TigerWolf> !upgrade
[05:20] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[05:20] <slavik> can-o-worms: sudo 'update-manager -d'
[05:20] <poje> Ummmm...wtf? I just noticed that OOo is not on my machine
[05:20] <jasay> MaKkY, still there?
[05:20] <slavik> dr_willis: yes
[05:20] <can-o-worms> slavik: thanks
[05:20] <skippy81> bootlick, find your kernel version with "uname -r" and download the correspoinding headers from synaptic
[05:20] <bootlick> Oi.. Okay, will try both, thanks fellows
[05:20] <MaKkY> jasay, yea gtg though
[05:20] <MaKkY> jasay: thanks for trying
[05:20] <slavik> dr_willis: the card is like 20usd, too miniPCI
[05:21] <dr_willis> slavik,  ive seen a FEW laptops that have the bios 'fixed' where only specic minipci cards can be used.
[05:21] <d8uv> I want to install drake server from the drake desktop CD. Am I boned?
[05:21] <jasay> MaKkY, sorry buddy.  Maybe try man hp-makeuri and see if you can figure it out.
[05:21] <dr_willis> slavik,  so its a $20 gamble. :P but may as well try it.
[05:21] <MaKkY> k... thx jasay
[05:21] <slavik> dr_willis: I read about that ... do you know where I could find out?
[05:21] <agamotto> d8uv:  I thought that was supposed to be on the alt disc?
[05:21] <dr_willis> slavik,  lots of googling for your specific laptop I guess. Thats where i learned about iot on my old laptop
[05:22] <MyNameIsNotBob> d8uv, not really
[05:22] <agamotto> slavik:  Did you try the TuxMobil website?
[05:22] <G8trBait> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver <-- Im trying to follow these instructions for installing the nvidia drivers, but in Step 3, the 4th command "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable", I get this response.. "sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[05:22] <G8trBait> "
[05:23] <mrpister> does anyone know why you can only upgrade with the alternative iso?
[05:23] <d8uv> agamotto: It is on the alternate CD, but I don't want to burn it. I made 10 coasters burning the desktop CD as is
[05:23] <TigerWolf> G8trBait:  use sudo install nvidia-glx
[05:23] <farous> i hate ati cards. running the fglrx drivers have serious problems with tk applications. using the native ati drivers everything is ok but the cpu load is really high anyone know of a remdi for the tk-fglrx bug/problems
[05:23] <agamotto> G8trBait:  A common problem with the Nvidia suite is that if you install the settings package, it removes the glx package
[05:23] <ubuntu> I am having a big problem with my partition. When I bootup my system it says grub error 15 or something similar and just hangs.  I tried to put my ubuntu cd back in and re-install the grub boot loader but it keeps giving me an error about the target file system.
[05:23] <whyvas_> d8uv, quit buying cheap cds
[05:23] <TigerWolf> G8trBait: that guide doesnt work for Drapper
[05:23] <G8trBait> TigerWolf: Ok, i did that command..
[05:24] <G8trBait> ohhh..
[05:24] <ubuntu> I had to load the xubuntu live cd to get back onto here.
[05:24] <TigerWolf> G8trBait: You only need the one command
[05:24] <agamotto> G8trBait:  Check Adept/Synaptic for the nvidia packages, and reinstall the glx package.  do the sudo bit, and restart the X server.  Should do the trick
[05:24] <TigerWolf> G8trBait:  the only guide you need - http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235
[05:24] <pepinito> hello, if I do sudo apt-get lilo, it gets installed and replace GRUB?
[05:24] <nixuser> krazykat: i rebooted and now its not working again, what was the command for enabling that freq scaling module again?
[05:24] <G8trBait> ok
[05:24] <DAaaMan64> whats the command to tell me what init level I am in?  Thank you :)
[05:25] <nixuser> krazykit
[05:25] <d8uv> whyvas_: Cheap CD + Cheap CD writer = I have enough coasters to throw a party for the entire country of The Gambia
[05:25] <whyvas_> haha
[05:25] <krazykit> nixuser: `sudo modprobe p4_clockmod` .  also, add that to /etc/modules
[05:25] <krazykit> just the module name, that is, nixuser
[05:25] <jighead> DAaaMan64: runlevel
[05:25] <DAaaMan64> jighead: thank you :)
[05:25] <nixuser> how would i add it to etc/modules?
[05:25] <agamotto> d8uv:  Plextor is the only way to go
[05:26] <paradizelost> Ok, that change to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf made the 127.0.0.1 the primary name server - as in first in the list - but it still puts the dns search name and the other name servers in the list
[05:26] <paradizelost> i'm trying to force all dns traffic on this box to go to 127.0.0.1
[05:27] <rpedro> d8uv: nec and benQ are also very good
[05:27] <jighead> paradizelost: get rid of domain-name-servers in the request stanza
[05:27] <kurt314> Man, I am having a damn hard time getting the ATI drivers installed. I just pooched my install for the 6th time :(
[05:27] <byteshack> now that dapper is out, is there a new "unstable" for ubuntu?
[05:28] <paradizelost> jighead: i did
[05:28] <d8uv> agamotto: Yes, I know. My CDRs suck and everyone hates me. However, it would help to get a server install off this desktop CD because my writing situation won't change for a while
[05:28] <harisund> One quick question. Is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats still the 'bible' (if I might say so) for enabling all media playback and other proprietary software on Dapper?
[05:28] <kurt314> I don't know what else to do; I think I have read every FAQ on the subject
[05:28] <iiiears> paradizealot - Why would you want all of your name server requests to go to localhost?
[05:28] <agamotto> harisund:  Pretty much, there might be edits soon due to Dapper.
[05:28] <Geoffrey2> this is fun...I have a notebook and can't get the onboard wireless adaptor to work...kinda defeats the purpose of buying a notebook :)
[05:29] <paradizelost> prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;
[05:29] <paradizelost> request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers, netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;
[05:29] <nathanael> Just moved into Dapper-ville!
[05:29] <barros_> hi.. i'm trying to compile a vanilla kernel, but I'm having some problems. when the system boots, I dont get that splash screen and get a message complaining about modules.dep (no such file or directory), but it exists.. any hints?
[05:29] <kurt314> I think I am going to try one more time.
[05:29] <agamotto> Geoffrey2: common problem.  Go to TuxMobil, and see if your particular laptop is listed
[05:29] <paradizelost> jighead: or do i need to use supersede?
[05:29] <rpedro> d8uv: try burning the cd image to dvd if you can, it has worked for me before with a faulty drive having problems with cds
[05:29] <kurt314> So this will be my 7th Dapper install :)
[05:29] <harisund> agamotto that was what I was afraid of. What is the best 'automated' solution for Dapper? Easy Ubuntu, Automatix, or some other project? I want literally everything, without any hassles :)
[05:29] <nathanael> Automatix
[05:29] <agamotto> harisund:  Automatix for now
[05:30] <jighead> paradizelost: never tried it myself, but that's a good guess, give it a shot
[05:30] <dragonbyte> does PPPOE come on the CD?
[05:30] <iiiears> paradizelost - What does redirecting the dns service to localhost do?
[05:30] <G8trBait> Thanks, I got the nvidia drivers working, now can finally run mIRC with WINE
[05:30] <agamotto> G8trBait:  Warm fuzzies
[05:30] <harisund> nathanael ok I am going to take your word for it ... nobody on the forums and this channel have misguided me so far :) So I am pretty sure that is the best then...
[05:30] <nathanael> Who needs mIRC when you have IRSSI?
[05:30] <slavik> iiiears: not good things
[05:30] <paradizelost> iiiears: this machine is my network router, it is set up with its own dns, my ISP's dns is terribly slow
[05:30] <Desh> Hi, I updated to Kubuntu on my latop but now ndiswrapper will now work. The drivers are still installed and ndiswrapper reports them as being fine, but the problem arises when I try to connect. Apparently, iwconfig does not see wlan0, my wlan card. I thought that using modprobe ndiswrapper would work, but when I try that it says that the operation is not permitted. Any ideas?
[05:30] <pepinito> hi, where can i find LILOCONF?
[05:30] <kurt314> WINE is my second goal :)
[05:30] <d8uv> rpedro: I'm too cheap to get a good CD writer. What makes you think I have the scratch for a DVD writer?
[05:30] <agamotto> nathanael:  Give him a break, he is slowly switching to linux
[05:30] <intelikey> pepinito /etc/lilo.conf ?
[05:31] <nathanael> Do you mean lilo.conf?
[05:31] <nathanael> jj
[05:31] <nixuser> krazykit: how do i auto enable cpu freq scaling on boot?
[05:31] <iiiears> paradizelost - Ah, nameserver caching. - I always learn something new here. :)
[05:31] <d8uv> rpedro: Do you think I'm Mr. Moneybags over here, drinking caviar milkshakes and treating yachts like jetskis?
[05:31] <markgrif> XChat is better than mirc.
[05:31] <Desh> Anyone know how to get ndiswrapper to work on Dapper?
[05:31] <dragonbyte> Can I install PPPOE from the installation CD?
[05:31] <rpedro> d8uv: hehe, then I dunno, have you tried verifing the media on another pc/drive?
[05:31] <rpedro> d8uv: lol
[05:31] <G8trBait> I tried XChat.. didn't like it very much.
[05:31] <intelikey> pepinito man lilo.conf    amd   man lilo      got questions just ask.   i use lilo.
[05:32] <nathanael> And using DVD-r's as wine coasters
[05:32] <G8trBait> I've just used mIRC for so long.. since '9
[05:32] <G8trBait> 5er '95
[05:32] <poje> G8trBait: irssi for the win :D
[05:32] <nathanael> irssi!
[05:32] <nathanael> hoorah!
[05:32] <d8uv> rpedro: I managed to burn one CD. The desktop CD. It works great.
[05:32] <poje> nathanael: ^5
[05:32] <G8trBait> I'll try it now
[05:32] <agamotto> To each their own
[05:32] <markgrif> I need to learn irssi.
[05:32] <d8uv> rpedro: But I want a server install.
[05:32] <Desh> How can I get ndiswrapper to work on Dapper?
[05:32] <poje> G8trBait: be warned, it is console-based
[05:32] <iiiears> G8trbait - got to agree with you on that MIRC is better The recent version of XChat isn't as good
[05:33] <agamotto> d8uv:  Verbatim disc work rather well on dodgy kit
[05:33] <rpedro> d8uv: do you have any cdrw media?
[05:33] <poje> iiiears: yes, on windows I like mIRC
[05:33] <nathanael> irssi makes me feel like I'm back in the eighties again...when it all began
[05:33] <rpedro> d8uv: if you do, try doing a full erase before burning
[05:33] <nathanael> It's a pure feeling
[05:33] <G8trBait> man, i need to bookmark that guide.. whats the "only guide I will need"?
[05:34] <poje> nathanael: word
[05:34] <poje> nathanael: although I was born in '86 ;d
[05:34] <pepinito> intelikey, thanks
[05:34] <agamotto> poje:  Young'uns
[05:34] <paradizelost> yes, supersede makes it the only one, where prepend adds it to the beginning
[05:34] <bootlick> I cannot find the Linux-2.6.15-23-386 and the search engine on synaptics website is down
[05:34] <pepinito> intelikey,  just reinstall dapper
[05:34] <Desh> Can anyone help me get ndiswrapper on Dapper?
[05:34] <nathanael> You can't beat irssi in a transpaprent terminal window
[05:34] <poje> agamotto: I just turned 20 - whippersnapper I am D:
[05:34] <nathanael> Anyway enough about that
[05:34] <pepinito> intelikey, but still having the same problem
[05:35] <d8uv> rpedro: Great. Instead of 10 coasters I will have one disk coastered 10 times. That's really productive.
[05:35] <rixth> !tell Desh about ndiswrapper
[05:35] <pepinito> intelikey, then i wanto to install LILO
[05:35] <agamotto> poje:  Congrats
[05:35] <poje> nathanael: rofles, that's exactly what I'm doing
[05:35] <slavik> dr_willis: looks like my laptop doesn't have it ... unless the tech support just lied to me
[05:35] <intelikey> pepinito which problem was that ?
[05:35] <nf4> hello I was wondeing if I was supposed to have the nividia settings installed useing 6.06 the guide dont install it useing synaptic but if you use the add/remove link  and install systeminfo it will give you the nvidia setting and ever thing seems to be working I get the nvidia splash screen and the 75hz refresh rate that the drivers give me so I know they are still installed
[05:35] <Sivik> why am i having issues with getting my ethernet card up via lspci
[05:35] <dr_willis> slavik,  heh -  well one way to find out.
[05:36] <pepinito> intelikey, i have 4 SCSI Disks
[05:36] <slavik> dr_willis: I am not the only one with such trouble though
[05:36] <nf4> * i ment the guide said not to install the settings
[05:36] <pepinito> intelikey, I installed dapper on disk 1
[05:36] <pepinito> intelikey, but went it boot after the installation, it hangs
[05:36] <intelikey> pepinito ah nice    i only have one scsi hd
[05:36] <SAM_theman> yo
[05:36] <pvd2006> how do you re-install grub from live cd? I already mounted my main partition with ubuntu installation
[05:36] <intelikey> pepinito hangs at what point ?
[05:37] <rpedro> d8uv: if you're having probs with you cheap burner, either buy better media or use  cdrws, as far as I can see those are your only options if you can't/won't buy a better burner
[05:37] <pepinito> intelikey, if I install it with just 1 disk connected it works fine
[05:37] <G8trBait> Going to try XGL again, crossing fingers
[05:37] <zach> how can i configure extra buttons on my mouse for backwards and forwards?
[05:37] <jighead> pvd2006: grub-install (hd0), assuming you want it on the MBR of your first disk
[05:37] <nf4> i like useing the nivida settings becouse it allows me to view the chipset temps as accuritly as the bios
[05:37] <d8uv> rpedro: So I am boned trying to install server from desktop CD.
[05:37] <agamotto> d8uv:  For now, yes it seems
[05:37] <pepinito> intelikey, there's the error 17: cannont mount selected partition
[05:38] <SAM_theman> Yo hommies I can't seem to install flash player on my ubutnu
[05:38] <d8uv> rpedro: That's what I needed to know, instead of "HURRR YOU NEED PLEXTOR HURRRRRRR"
[05:38] <pvd2006> jighead: I got this, Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device
[05:38] <nathanael> What does ROFLES stand for?
[05:38] <SAM_theman> O nevermind
[05:38] <intelikey> pepinito dapper is not real good with scsi.   i had to rebuild my initramfs.img befor i could mount root
[05:38] <SAM_theman> it was configing it
[05:38] <poje> nathanael: Rolling On the Floor Laughing (the "es" makes it like a word ;o/)
[05:39] <nf4> real ovulateing females lose emotional stablilty
[05:39] <nathanael> SAM - get Automatix
[05:39] <pepinito> intelikey,  yesterday I got the same error with SUSE
[05:39] <nathanael> Thanks
[05:39] <rpedro> d8uv: or you could try a network install, getting the packages from an ftp server on the interne, though I'm not sure if it's an option right now with Ubuntu
[05:39] <pepinito> intelikey,  then I installed SUSE with LILO and works fine
[05:39] <poje> nf4: females have emotional stability at some point?
[05:39] <Sivik> i guess i did done piss everyone off
[05:39] <nf4> sometimes
[05:39] <burivoy> Guys, who knows where from one can get the suiteable drivers for Agere Systems'97 modem preinstalled in hp Pavilion zv5000?
[05:39] <Desh> Why would it not allow me to modprobe ndiswrapper?
[05:39] <jighead> pvd2006: do you have separate partitions for /boot and /?
[05:39] <pepinito> intelikey,  the problem is I cannot said dapper to use LILO at the partition time
[05:40] <pvd2006> jighead, I dont think so.
[05:40] <pepinito> intelikey,  I couldn't find the option
[05:40] <nf4> if you can gain root to their filesystem and install a script with out there security going off
[05:40] <pvd2006> jighead: how can I found that out?
[05:40] <pvd2006> find*
[05:40] <intelikey> pepinito did you try not letting it install grub.  that 'used to' give the option.
[05:40] <pepinito> intelikey,  now i just have to find out how to install LILO
[05:40] <jighead> pvd2006: if you have your root rescue mounted from the cd, do ls /boot
[05:41] <denver1> what web site can i go to to check that java is working?
[05:41] <jighead> pvd2006: or you could look at /etc/fstab and see if there is a line for /boot
[05:41] <pepinito> intelikey,  it seems that it not there anymore the option
[05:41] <nf4> just google java test
[05:41] <iiiears> pepinito - I wonder if you can't install lilo afterwards using apt-get or even synaptic?
[05:41] <denver1> thanx
[05:42] <Desh> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[05:42] <pvd2006> jighead, there is nothing in fstab besides my swap partiton and a temp partition for the live cd
[05:42] <pvd2006> I did see a list of files under ls /boot though.
[05:42] <iiiears> pepinito - use the "dd" copy command to rip and save a copy of your boot sector first.
[05:42] <pepinito> iiiears,  now I used synaptic and have it installed, then i have to configure it
[05:42] <intelikey> pepinito installing lilo is a snap after you get your lilo.conf setup correctly.    (assuming a live cd boot)  just "sudo chroot /mount-point-of-the-root-partition lilo  "
[05:42] <jighead> pvd2006: how did you do the cd boot?
[05:43] <pvd2006> jighead, I am on xubuntu right now, I did the default where it loads up gui on live cd but I havent done installation yet.
[05:43] <nathan_> hello
[05:43] <intelikey> pepinito if it growls about changed addressing  just umount /proc and install it.
[05:43] <jighead> pvd2006: ok, how did you mount your root partition
[05:44] <nathan_> what do i need to do to get X setup --installed on laptop and screen in a tiny rectangle in the middle
[05:44] <Vaske_Car> I typer "ping www.google.com", how to stop ping from terminal?
[05:44] <pvd2006> jighead: I did mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc2 /mnt/hdc2
[05:44] <woonix> Vaske_Car: CTRL+C
[05:44] <agamotto> Vaske_Car:  ctrl-x or ctrl-c
[05:44] <pepinito> intelikey,  how can i see my mount-point-of-the-root-partition?
[05:44] <Vaske_Car> thx
[05:44] <intelikey> pepinito mount
[05:45] <jighead> pvd2006: ok, try doing grub-install --root-directory=/dev/hdc2 /dev/<whatever disk you want grub installed on>
[05:45] <iiiears> pepinito - "mount" at the command line?
[05:45] <skydragon38> tryin to upgrade to dapper beta, one problem:http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu/breezy/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[05:45] <skydragon38> http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu/breezy/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[05:45] <FunnyLookinHat> skydragon38, try doing this instead
[05:45] <agamotto> skydragon38:  Are you using the alt disc?
[05:45] <nf4> i cant find much info on setting up irc ip tunnels
[05:45] <intelikey> pepinito that assumes you have it mounted.   you must have it mounted to configure lilo  and to install it
[05:45] <FunnyLookinHat> skydragon38, sudo update-manager -d
[05:45] <FunnyLookinHat> i think
[05:46] <SAM_theman> Umm hommies I am having a major problem and it is happing again.U may not rember me about a month (couple) that i was on 5.10 trying to get my game sound to work while all of my other misc... apps that needed sound works.This time thinking that the newer version of ubuntu "6.06" would work but still no luck.I hate to say it but what the hell is going on??
[05:46] <BioVorE> nf4: BNC
[05:46] <nf4> or irc proxys
[05:46] <pepinito> intelikey, /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[05:46] <pepinito> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[05:46] <pepinito> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[05:46] <pepinito> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[05:46] <pepinito> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[05:46] <pepinito> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[05:46] <pepinito> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[05:46] <Vaske_Car> update: how to update from terminal??? With sudo atp-get update i got restricted sites...
[05:46] <pepinito> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[05:46] <FunnyLookinHat> skydragon38, wait, findin u the command
[05:46] <pepinito> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[05:46] <skydragon38> nope
[05:46] <nf4> thanks
[05:46] <jighead> !pastebin
[05:46] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:46] <pepinito> intelikey, it seems to be sda1, right?
[05:46] <pvd2006> jighead: I got this right here, mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/hdc2/boot': Not a directory
[05:46] <Toma-> im getting a rock solid lockup when trying to start nvidia module with dapper. ive got an mx4000 (sadly) and had it working in breezy.
[05:47] <mlalkaka> which one is better, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer, and why? if you install all the gstreamer plugins, isn't gstreamer just as good? what are the benefits of using totem-xine?
[05:47] <agamotto> skydragon38:  To upgrade, you need the alt disc, or you can sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but you better have a fast connection
[05:47] <intelikey> pepinito yep that's the root partition /  no chroot needed.     but you said you installed on the second scsi drive ?   that would be /dev/sdb#   ???
[05:47] <skydragon38> thanx
[05:47] <jighead> pvd2006: then try using /mnt/hdc2 instead of /dev/hdc2 for the root-dir
[05:47] <FunnyLookinHat> skydragon38, run this in console "gksudo update-manager -d"
[05:47] <intelikey> pepinito what am i missing there ?
[05:47] <pepinito> intelikey, no, it is at the firs one
[05:48] <intelikey> ok
[05:48] <agamotto> SAM_theman:  Are you using Gnome, if so, go to Preferences -> Sound -> and disable the sound server startup
[05:48] <intelikey> pepinito one other question.  not that lilo cares but do you have any ide disks ?
[05:48] <SAM_theman> Are u sure this is going to work cause I am about to put a bullet in my head
[05:48] <pvd2006> jighead: ok it worked. It showed output as hd0 /dev/hdc and hd1 /dev/hdd
[05:48] <SAM_theman> yeah
[05:49] <nf4> dose any one know if there is a problem with installing nvidia settings in 6.06?  if I get the divers to stay installed?
[05:49] <pvd2006> jighead: now should it automatically detect the operating systems once again and make entries automatically?
[05:49] <pepinito> intelikey, no, just SCSI disks
[05:49] <agamotto> Do not install the settings pkg currently if you want to keep the glx package running
[05:49] <SAM_theman> There is no Sound Server startup
[05:50] <TigerWolf> After installing bittornado by using apt-get , how do i add it to the appliactions menu?
[05:50] <mlalkaka> !tell me about totem-xine
[05:50] <jighead> pvd2006: not sure, check your your /mnt/hdc2/boot/grub/menu.lst file to see if everything is as you expect
[05:50] <SAM_theman> just Enable software sound mixing (ESD) and Play system sounds
[05:50] <jighead> pvd2006: i am not sure where the OS detection and such happens when new kernels/OS's are installed
[05:50] <agamotto> SAM_theman:  Yes, the system sounds should be it
[05:51] <jighead> pvd2006: but i don't think it's a grub function
[05:51] <SAM_theman> then what
[05:51] <SAM_theman> lets hope the game runs
[05:51] <pvd2006> ok I think it worked
[05:51] <pvd2006> :)
[05:51] <SAM_theman> WITH sound!
[05:51] <pvd2006> I will brb
[05:51] <agamotto> That should pretty much take car of it
[05:51] <pvd2006> Thanks a lot jighead.
[05:51] <skydragon38> thats the command in which i encountered the problem
[05:51] <kameron> what's in the package ntfsprogs?
[05:52] <SAM_theman> NO bloodly sound
[05:52] <navyn> anybody here tried crossover office on dapper with XGL running?
[05:52] <agamotto> Programs to help you with Windows NTFS partitions
[05:52] <intelikey> pepinito then the lilo.conf should look something like this example
[05:52] <SAM_theman> nope but i have Crossover
[05:52] <Vaske_Car> how to check IP?
[05:52] <wraaa> is there any way to access a windows harddrive from ubuntu?
[05:52] <agamotto> Sam_theman:  Hmmm, not sure then.  That trick usually solves the problem for me
[05:52] <nf4> acpi sensors seems to be less accurite than libsensors
[05:52] <iiiears> Vask_car - ipconfig
[05:52] <nf4> well slower any ways
[05:52] <navyn> anybody using XGL?  my alt-tab does nothing, but i see it set up in gconf
[05:52] <TigerWolf> How do i open the bittornado GUI from command line?
[05:53] <navyn> for compiz
[05:53] <pepinito> intelikey,  it fail to pass
[05:53] <intelikey> pepinito ?
[05:53] <intelikey> error ?
[05:53] <roostishaw> what is the bash command to check the filetype?
[05:53] <pepinito> intelikey, yes
[05:54] <pepinito> intelikey, I'm here
[05:54] <intelikey> file roostishaw
[05:54] <iiiears> pepinito - What was the error message?
[05:54] <jason_> okay ubuntu freaks
[05:54] <roostishaw> so  file filename?
[05:54] <SAM_theman> Yo how i check my sound card
[05:54] <pepinito> intelikey,  there where no errors
[05:54] <jason_> how do i get the codecs for video files to play
[05:54] <jason_> where do i get them
[05:54] <Vaske_Car> iiiears, its ifconfig
[05:54] <intelikey> pepinito no error means no error.
[05:55] <akk> So, I just updated dapper (which I thought would be fairly stable now, since it's released) and suddenly all sorts of things have a new dependency on hal.
[05:55] <pepinito> intelikey,  could you please send it again?
[05:55] <jason_> i dont see totem for package download in synaptic or add/remove applications?
[05:55] <akk> Is this a new policy change?
[05:55] <propagandhi> hi does anyone know how to change the shortcut key beagle listens for
[05:55] <skydragon38> jason_ - i recomend automatix
[05:55] <intelikey> oh heheh ok
[05:55] <roostishaw> intelikey.  how do i run this:    ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, stripped
[05:55] <roostishaw> ?
[05:55] <iiiears> Vaska_Car - lol (embarrased)
[05:55] <smitedogg> How long does it usually take to resize a 20G NTFS partition? I'm doing some newbie convertion
[05:55] <intelikey> roostishaw sh filename
[05:56] <jason_> how do i get the movie player to play common videos in ubuntu 6.0?
[05:56] <mr_hus> anybody can send me /etc/gdm/gdm.conf? I deleted mine by accident.... ughh
[05:56] <Geoffrey2> the fun part here is that my Dell Inspiron 6000 came with one of at least three to four different wireless lan cards..and it's my particular model, Broadcom 1470, that doesn't seem to want to play nice with Ubuntu
[05:56] <jason_> how do i get the movie player to play common videos in ubuntu 6.0?
[05:56] <skydragon38> jason - automatix
[05:56] <iiiears> jason - "libdvdcss" or instal videolan VLC
[05:56] <jason_> iiiears, where do i get that
[05:57] <jason_> i am a n00b
[05:57] <pepinito> intelikey,  I dont know where's the file, it seems to pass, but i can't find it
[05:57] <intelikey> lol
[05:57] <skydragon38> jason - sudo apt-get libdvdcss
[05:57] <adrigen> good day people.
[05:57] <iiiears> skydragon - has a better idea automatix is fast and installs a lot of useful software.
[05:57] <skydragon38> hail.
[05:57] <Vaske_Car> yessss SSH working!
[05:57] <intelikey> pepinito do  find $HOME -name lilo.conf
[05:57] <poje> skydragon38: I'm not sure those are in the regular repos
[05:58] <skydragon38> no?
[05:58] <smitedogg> Resize times on NTFS? top and strace suggest partmon is doing it's thing, but it's been about 30 minutes....a 20G NTFS partition doesn't seem like it should take that long :-/
[05:58] <Vaske_Car> how do I list path to the file?
[05:58] <kameron> smitedogg: what program are you using?
[05:58] <poje> smitedogg: all is lost
[05:58] <smitedogg> kameron: installing from the livecd right now
[05:58] <crimsun> smitedogg: how fast are the HD and CPU?
[05:58] <DeathGuppie> is it possible to install ubuntu from the live CD??
[05:58] <jason_> iiiears, that gives me invalid operation error
[05:59] <jason_> i typed what you had in my terminal
[05:59] <sh3ll> can someone please say "deadlycow21" into the irc?
[05:59] <kameron> qtparted, and gparted both get an error when trying to put any partition on a sata drive. anyone encounter this?
[05:59] <mr_hus> anybody can send me /etc/gdm/gdm.conf? I deleted mine by accident.... ughh
[05:59] <pepinito> intelikey,  sorry there isn't
[05:59] <crimsun> smitedogg: because on a relatively recent computer, it takes approximately 30 seconds to shrink a half-full 36 GB NTFS partition some reasonable amount
[05:59] <smitedogg> crimson: Duron 1.6GHz I think, idebus is 66Hz
[05:59] <Geoffrey2> when using ndiswrapper, are the .inf and .sys files for a particular versions of Windows perferable over the others?
[05:59] <intelikey> pepinito did you type the command ?   find $HOME -name lilo.conf
[05:59] <smitedogg> oh, so badness has probably come to visit
[05:59] <crimsun> smitedogg: sorry, that's /before/ the reboot
[05:59] <sh3ll> can someone please say "deadlycow21" into the irc window please?
[06:00] <adrigen> can someone help me with a critical error: I installed a bunch of truetype fonts on my system, and now when I open gimp and scroll through the fonts, as soon a I get to (i guess) one of the new fonts, gimp dissapears completely.
[06:00] <adrigen> any ideas???
[06:00] <poje> Geoffrey2: I don't think it matters a bunch, either 2k or XP
[06:00] <crimsun> smitedogg: iirc, it took about 3 minutes post-reboot for xp to perform a check
[06:00] <intelikey> sh3ll if you'll say 'dcc.send'
[06:00] <m0biu5> how can i install fonts that i've downloaded...?
[06:00] <b00gz> I am very new to linux... I am looking for a front end gui to Bind anyone have any suggestions?
[06:00] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, how to see path to the file from terminal?
[06:00] <iiiears> jason_ - Due to patent restrictions finding libdvdcss can take a bit of searching. seveas's site might have it. unfortuneatly i don't have the link.
[06:00] <smitedogg> xp?
[06:01] <intelikey> "deadlycow21" sh3ll
[06:01] <poje> !restrictedformats
[06:01] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:01] <DeathGuppie> never mind.. the live CD, is just stupid.  I can't believe I wasted my bandwidth.. all 12 usless applications, and no install option..
[06:01] <adrigen> m0biu5: http://smorgasbord.net/how_to_install_true_type_fonts_ubuntu_linux
[06:01] <iiiears> jason_ - give VLC a try.
[06:01] <crimsun> smitedogg: yeah, you do have to allow the $otherOS to check the filesystem post ntfsresize last I used it
[06:01] <b00gz1> I am very new to linux... I am looking for a front end gui to Bind anyone have any suggestions?
[06:01] <jason_> so there is nothing i can get to play common video formats in ubuntu
[06:01] <chack> jjbhjbh
[06:01] <poje> ubotu tell jason_ about restrictedformats
[06:01] <m0biu5> adrigen, thanks
[06:01] <smitedogg> crimsun: but it hasn't seemed to finish yet :-/
[06:01] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: not sure to what you're referring?
[06:02] <nevyn> b00gz1: umm the closest thing would be probably webmin
[06:02] <otep> !tell me xgl
[06:02] <crimsun> smitedogg: then something's more than likely gone awry
[06:02] <navyn> is there a way for nautilus file browser to show thumbnails whenever browsing, example, if i try to add an attachment, is there a thumbnail view setting somewhere?
[06:02] <adrigen> but i had issues...
[06:02] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, how to see folder tree
[06:02] <iiiears> jason_ - Videolan VLC (it's in synaptic package manager.) will do it in two clicks
[06:02] <otep> !tell me about xgl
[06:02] <intelikey> pepinito or you could...    find $HOME -name lilo.conf -exec mv {} $HOME \;
[06:02] <b00gz1> nevyn Thanks!
[06:02] <crimsun> smitedogg: it should take no more than one minute to resize, but the filesystem check in $otherOS probably takes longer
[06:02] <joao> some of you use idesk??
[06:02] <smitedogg> crimsun: okay, time to find out if she can handle losing date :)
[06:02] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: as in using ls?
[06:02] <smitedogg> crimsun: ah, okay....something is borked then
[06:02] <dou213> iiiears, there are some plugins with VLC, should he install them too?
[06:03] <jason_> i am in ubuntu 6 and in synaptic and i dont see vlc or videolan thing
[06:03] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, yes
[06:03] <poje> jason_: did you go to that link? to to legal issues they are not in the official repositories
[06:03] <roostishaw> *do
[06:03] <poje> *due to
[06:03] <crimsun> _jason: you can use Applications> Add...  to install it
[06:03] <roostishaw> :D
[06:03] <poje> roostishaw: close ;)
[06:03] <intelikey> !tell jason_ about repos
[06:03] <agamotto> You also have to click the unsupported and third-party buttons
[06:03] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, for example if I am in folder X how do I see all other folders of the tree?
[06:03] <iiiears> dou213 - I don't think so. but, The descriptions should tell you more.
[06:04] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: ls -a
[06:04] <poje> Fujitsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[06:04] <pepinito> intelikey, sorry can't find it
[06:04] <Geoffrey2> my latest effort was to build the latest version of ndiswrapper...but I can't get the build process to work properly either....
[06:04] <specialbuddy> how would I share a file so that a mac user could access it over the network?
[06:04] <Fujitsu> Hi, poke.
[06:04] <intelikey> pepinito no worry.  i'll paste bin one if you need it.
[06:04] <poje> specialbuddy: ssh/scp
[06:05] <specialbuddy> is that the only way
[06:05] <slavik> is there a reason why my wifi card would all of the sudden stop seeing networks?
[06:05] <poje> specialbuddy: no, but is one of the best
[06:05] <pvd2006> my memory is bad... Who was I talking to a minute ago about partitions? :-\.
[06:05] <pepinito> intelikey, yes, I need it
[06:05] <Jinkguns> slavik
[06:05] <jighead> specialbuddy, you could use samba
[06:05] <Jinkguns> I HAD THE EXCEPT SAME PROBLEM
[06:05] <slavik> Jinkguns: yes?
[06:05] <slavik> oh
[06:05] <pvd2006> jighead:
[06:05] <jighead> pvd2006, that'd be me
[06:05] <Jinkguns> If you get a answer, PM me it. :D
[06:05] <slavik> Jinkguns: what chip?
[06:06] <specialbuddy> yeah I don't feel like setting up samba right now
[06:06] <Jinkguns> Broadcom 43XX
[06:06] <rjian> is shipment of cd is free?????
[06:06] <slavik> same
[06:06] <mjb> Hey I'm trying a dist-upgrade but am out of space, I'vr had ubuntu on the box since hoary... are there any old setup dir's I can delete?
[06:06] <pvd2006> jighead: well it showed my the right listings and everything in the menu.list file but I still got the same error on bootup and it didnt list any OSes.
[06:06] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, when I want to delete folder what do I type? I tried "rm foldername" but it told me that it is directory...
[06:06] <slavik> rjian: yes
[06:06] <iiiears> dou123 - VLC is awesome You can easily play almost everything and stream it to another machine anywhere using it's included web interface
[06:06] <slavik> Jinkguns: my friend came over with a windows laptop scanned for networks and BAM all the networks appeared in kismet
[06:06] <tritium> mjb: have you run apt-get clean already?
[06:06] <pvd2006> jighead: I must of done it on the wrong disk I guess?
[06:06] <jason_> cool guys thanks
[06:06] <mjb> most likely not... I'll try that
[06:06] <jason_> i forgot i needed to set up more repositories
[06:07] <jighead> pvd2006, you probably want grub-install --root-directory=/tmp/hdc2 /dev/hda
[06:07] <slavik> tritium: any idea why X server dies once after gnome is done loading?
[06:07] <jighead> pvd2006, because the MBR for the booting is most likely on hda
[06:07] <intelikey> pepinito http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15171
[06:07] <kameron> !x
[06:07] <ubotu> [x]  a portable, network-transparent window system.
[06:07] <kameron> !xorg
[06:07] <ubotu> methinks xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[06:08] <jason_> so how do you get transparency effects in ubuntu 6
[06:08] <pvd2006> jighead: dev/hda doesnt exist according to the terminal
[06:08] <threat> afternoon
[06:08] <pvd2006> /dev/hda
[06:08] <iiiears> !glx
[06:08] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iiiears
[06:08] <pvd2006> nor does /dev/hdc exist
[06:08] <tritium> slavik: I'd want to see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:09] <pvd2006> I guess I need to mount the disk first eh?
[06:09] <jighead> pvd2006, what command did you try
[06:09] <pvd2006> cd /dev/hda
[06:09] <iiiears> !xglx
[06:09] <ubotu> iiiears: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:09] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: do you want to erase the directory's contents, too?
[06:09] <Steil> Is prelink still broken?
[06:09] <pvd2006> I guess that won't work.
[06:09] <intelikey> pvd2006 you cant cd to a device node
[06:09] <Vaske_Car> yes
[06:09] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: use rm -rf foo
[06:09] <Newbuntu> whats the best commandline way of upgrading from dapper drake 6.06 pre-release to the newly realeased full-deal  ?  Thanks in advance
[06:10] <jighead> pvd2006, files under dev are not directories, they are block devices, so you can't cd to them
[06:10] <slavik> tritium: brb, with pastebinned logs
[06:10] <jighead> pvd2006, try dmesg | grep hda
[06:10] <BigBon> hello
[06:10] <pepinito> intelikey, i have it
[06:10] <BigBon> Why is Ubuntu so popular?
[06:10] <Geoffrey2> when performing the command "fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules", is there some sort of log generated during the process?
[06:10] <intelikey> BigBon it's the flavor of the month
[06:11] <denver1> because its esay and just works
[06:11] <agamotto> BigBon:  Relative ease of use, and for linux, the simple joy of most things 'just working'
[06:11] <kameron> exit
[06:11] <pussfeller> where is the dir that stores gnome settings, specifically the keyboard settings
[06:11] <crimsun> the flavour of next month is red hat 6.2
[06:11] <tritium> BigBon: because it rocks :)
[06:11] <BigBon> does the linux world often get flavours?
[06:11] <pvd2006> hda is my dvd-rom
[06:11] <BigBon> will it's support slow right down?
[06:11] <agamotto> BigBon:  Many, just like coffee
[06:11] <intelikey> agamotto you mean most 'default' things just work
[06:11] <pvd2006> jighead: I think its hdc for my hard disk.
[06:11] <jighead> pvd2006, oh, that's interesting
[06:11] <agamotto> BigBon:  Only time will tell
[06:11] <pussfeller> linux gets flavors when things just work
[06:11] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, see what I get when try to update: http://pastebin.com/761700
[06:11] <skydragon38> BigBon: simply put, networking.
[06:11] <jason_> how do i make vlc the main video player for all files
[06:12] <jighead> pvd2006, do you have two cd's, and how many disks do you have
[06:12] <iiiears> jason_ - xglx and xcomgr (It is fairly involved and like the redmond OS requires the latest processos)
[06:12] <Newbuntu> a dapper drake would be a well dressed duck ... no?
[06:12] <denver1> gee crimsum redhat 6.2 is going back a bit:)
[06:12] <agamotto> Mandrake was the stuff to beat two years ago, now most won't touch it
[06:12] <acke> Hey guys, i share router with my landlord. Each time i run bittorrent, the router goes down. perminanteley. So i really cant use bittorrent anymore. would you know of any other file sharing applications that would allow me to share legal files?
[06:12] <pvd2006> yesh, hdc is my hard disks
[06:12] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: I don't see anything wrong in that paste
[06:12] <kakalto> is it possible to mount a cd image, then add it as a source for apt?
[06:12] <agamotto> Newbuntu:  oui
[06:12] <crimsun> denver1: indeed
[06:12] <otep> jason: right-click. properties. open with
[06:12] <nf4> i am with the bunch that just wont touch it
[06:12] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, does it mean that Ubuntu is updated?
[06:12] <pussfeller> acke, emule, soulseek
[06:12] <pvd2006> jighead: I have a dvd-rom, cd-writer, and two hard-disks.
[06:12] <nf4> i have no need for silly things like that
[06:12] <nf4> ubuntu is fine
[06:12] <otep> jason_: right-click. properties. open with
[06:12] <pvd2006> I figured out that hdc is for my hard disks though
[06:12] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: did you use ``apt-get upgrade'' afterward?
[06:12] <reduz> QUESTION: how do I specify some module options? I need to set bttv to use specific module parameters but i dont know where to do that nowadays.. I also want to make it load snd_seq from alsa by default,since it doesmt seem to do it on boot
[06:12] <Sid_> Hello? Could anyone possibly help me with Ubuntu Control Center?
[06:12] <pussfeller> acke: newgroups
[06:12] <denver1> i started with redhat 7
[06:12] <pvd2006> I did dmesg | grep hdc
[06:13] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, no
[06:13] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: you should
[06:13] <Newbuntu> agamotto  any clue how to upgrade from 6.06 pre-release to full deal ?
[06:13] <jason_> thanks otep!
[06:13] <rpedro> acke, try amule, though IMO there's no reason why it should work if bittorrent doesn't
[06:13] <intelikey> BigBon yes it does.  i've watched rh be popular and mdk and now ub  who knows what the next flavor of the month will be.   but some things like debian slackware and gentoo are well established with their own special claims to fame.
[06:13] <otep> jason_: np
[06:13] <acke> pussfeller, would you know if they are http based? or would work with out disrupting the router?
[06:13] <jighead> pvd2006, take a look at /tmp/hdc2/etc/fstab and tell me what /dev/hdc1 mounts
[06:13] <agamotto> Newbuntu:  Get the alt disc .iso, and bascially do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:14] <Newbuntu> thanks
[06:14] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, if I do not want to upgrade, just to update packages what should I do? For example I do not want to upgrade PHP4 to PHP5, i just want to update because of security..
[06:14] <pussfeller> acke: is this a wireless router?
[06:14] <acke> pussfeller yes
[06:14] <nf4> I think that it is odd about this nvidia driver settings=no driver thing that synaptic advanced dose when the simple version of synaptic installs both just fine and the other than that is worng with ubuntu is electic sheep dosent work in 6.06 but other than that ubuntu is the best os that i have used
[06:14] <joao> how can I kill aptitude using kill command?
[06:14] <pussfeller> do you have access to the control?
[06:15] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: it won't install new ones if you use 'upgrade' instead of 'dist-upgrade'
[06:15] <Larry1981> Hi, when I install Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Final text based installation, I always select the 1280x1024 screen resolution before launching the setup and that gives me a 1280x1024 console for installation. With Ubuntu 6.06 Beta, after the installation, all my consoles (tty) were in 1280x1024 after the first boot on the HDD. But when I do install it from the Final release, it is in standard 80x24 columns/lines but it is like the screen is b
[06:15] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, thanks teacher
[06:15] <Sid_> Has anyone gotten ubuntu control center working properly?
[06:15] <pvd2006> jighead, that file doesn't exist.
[06:15] <pussfeller> acke: can you get to its web based control thing
[06:15] <intelikey> hmmmm rm firefox and "After unpacking 37.1MB disk space will be freed."
[06:15] <pvd2006> there is no /etc/
[06:15] <acke> pussfeller, i have full access to the router
[06:15] <Larry1981> Hi, when I install Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Final text based installation, I always select the 1280x1024 screen resolution before launching the setup and that gives me a 1280x1024 console for installation. With Ubuntu 6.06 Beta, after the installation, all my consoles (tty) were in 1280x1024 after the first boot on the HDD. But when I do install it from the Final release, it is in standard 80x24 columns/lines but it is like the screen is b
[06:15] <pvd2006> all I have on /tmp/hdc2 is /boot and boot/grub
[06:16] <jighead> pvd2006, ok, do you have /tmp/hdc1 mounted?
[06:16] <BigBon> so ubuntu is just hype?
[06:16] <pussfeller> acke: you might want to do a search then on google for people wiht that same problem, it might be fiixed in the firmware
[06:16] <PapaPItufo> hllo
[06:16] <agamotto> BigBon:  Depends on your definition
[06:16] <joao> how can I kill aptitude using kill command?
[06:16] <acke> pussfeller, yeah i have tried to search for netgear breakdowns but there are really not very much information
[06:16] <pussfeller> acke: or be a config problem, my linksys would keel over after a couple days of bt till i changed a few settings
[06:16] <rpedro> acke, what is the router model?
[06:17] <intelikey> pvd2006 fdisk -l    might help you locate your root partition
[06:17] <garryfre> I note that unlike breezy, I cannot so easily obtain access to other drives on my machine. Says I don't have permissions.
[06:17] <acke> rpedro let me see 1 sek
[06:17] <garryfre> And it says there is no active partition, but it boots so there has to be, otherwise, I got it working ok.
[06:17] <pvd2006> jighead: I mounted /tmp/hdc2, now that file does exist. I am looking at fstab right now for hdc2.
[06:17] <brandon_> is it possible to set up custom keyboard shortcuts for mplayer
[06:18] <acke> netgear WGT624
[06:18] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, done http://pastebin.com/761707
[06:18] <intelikey> garryfre you don't need an active partition to boot
[06:18] <Vaske_Car> what is the address for Ubuntu "pastebin" web site?
[06:18] <pvd2006> jighead: /dev/hdc1 mounts as /media/hdc1 ntfs
[06:18] <BigBon> put your hand on your head if you like ubuntu.
[06:18] <pussfeller> acke, you have the ports forwarded to an ip you assigned via the MAC address?
[06:18] <intelikey> garryfre you don't need a partition to boot     i don't have one.
[06:19] <garryfre> Interesting. Well it goes into group and works that way.
[06:19] <rpedro> acke, I have a linksys myself, but maybe the problem is similar to one I had before, regarding too many simultaneous connnections. just had to change some setting in the router and it was fixed.
[06:19] <pvd2006> jighead: /dev/hdc2 mounts as / ext3
[06:19] <B1zz> *puts hand on head*
[06:19] <foil> where does totem keep the addresses entered into the "open location" dialog box stored? (the equivalent of a "history")
[06:19] <jighead> pvd2006, then grub-install --root-directory=/tmp/hdc2 /dev/hdc should do the trick
[06:20] <acke> rpedro, yeah it seems to happend when I have about 3 simultious downloads/uploads at the same time
[06:20] <neurosis> can anyone tell me why my pc would have a hard time resolving or is very slow at resolving internet addresses?
[06:20] <garryfre> Strange that it would gripe that I don't have one. Oh well, minor problems, nice fast screensavers once ye get the nvidia-glx installed in the new dapper.
[06:20] <rjian> hey guys theres a new channel on dal net #ubuntu.com
[06:20] <acke> i have ports 6881 6900 open
[06:20] <neurosis> sometimes it wont even ping due to timing out
[06:20] <tritium> rjian: this is the official ubuntu channel
[06:20] <agamotto> This site has computers installed under Ubuntu - http://system76.com/product_info.php/cPath/2/products_id/168
[06:20] <rredd4> I installed ndiswrapper and the needed drivers.  Everything works ok.  The drivers are in my home folder, can I trash them? or does ndiswrapper use them..
[06:20] <dou213> whenever i shut down the app Filelight it gives back an error: "The KDE Crash Handler - The application Filelight crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT)
[06:21] <acke> rpedro i have 6881-6900 open and i have my mac set to a specific ip. sometimes though it has gotten a different ip#
[06:21] <Newbuntu> iis there a channel to talk about dapper drake, or is this it now?
[06:21] <intelikey> rjian that channel is not new.
[06:21] <dou213> is there something i can do?
[06:21] <iiiears> !ubotu transparency is xglx and xcompmgr can someone fill me in? though i do have these links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21001   http://www.davehayes.org/2006/04/10/howto-ubuntu-dapper-with-xglcompiz/
[06:21] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[06:21] <pvd2006> jighead: ok, the command ran, im going to go see if it shows up on bootup.
[06:21] <agamotto> dou213:  That is ok, it has something to do with how the Java bits talk to KDE
[06:21] <jighead> pvd2006, good luck, i'm going to bed
[06:21] <intelikey> Newbuntu dis is it
[06:21] <pvd2006> alright thanks for the help
[06:22] <acke> pussfeller yeah ip is assigned to wlan card and ports is opened for bittorrent
[06:22] <lnxKDE> someone here knows how to patch the kernel??
[06:22] <dou213> agamotto, so i should install java? can't reckon of doing that in the past...
[06:22] <pussfeller> acke, you should set your bt client to run on a certain high port, a random one, like 27849 or something and then forward to that ip
[06:22] <lnxKDE> and I am getting this
[06:22] <rpedro> acke, this link fixed it for me >> http://www.handcoding.com/archives/2006/03/20/preventing-aim-disconnects-with-dd-wrt/  (the paragraph about bittorent) the fix for a netgear might be similar, if not search google for 'netgear <model> connection saturate", or something similar
[06:22] <gambit> how do i run gparted as admin
[06:22] <pussfeller> acke: what he said :)
[06:22] <lnxKDE>  patch -p1 /media/media-hd/kernel-source/linux-2.6.16.20 /media/media-hd/kernel-source/patch-2.6.17-rc6
[06:22] <Newbuntu> I'm trying to find info about upgrading from the pre-release 6.06  to the current one.. I just want to do it right
[06:22] <roostishaw> gambit, gksudo gparted
[06:22] <garryfre> s
[06:22] <intelikey> gambit gksudo gpatred
[06:22] <lnxKDE> patch: **** File /media/media-hd/kernel-source/linux-2.6.16.20 is not a regular file -- can't patch
[06:22] <gambit> ty
[06:22] <test> HELP
[06:23] <roostishaw> intelikey, got you there  :D
[06:23] <agamotto> dou213:  If you are running Filelight, you already have it installed
[06:23] <intelikey> yup
[06:23] <rpedro> acke, yes , could also be you ISP is blocking some ports, fix is easier then
[06:23] <acke> pussfeller, awesome guys ill check it out emediatelly
[06:23] <acke> rpedro awesome guys ill check it out emediatelly
[06:23] <Larry1981> Hi, how do I set my console (tty) in 1280x1024 graphic mode instead the standard 80x24 text mode ?
[06:23] <garryfre> maybe that media sourc is on a read only partition?
[06:23] <babo> err ... I don't believe it, my nvidia driver won't work with dapper now either. I thought i had this sorted with easy ubuntu ...
[06:24] <acke> rpedro, the thing is that my bittorrent ran without issues before xmas.
[06:24] <foil> Larry1981: i think what you are looking for is some framebuffer
[06:24] <pussfeller> you have to reinstall babo
[06:24] <garryfre> sec, Babo I have a link that fixes that ... sec ...
[06:24] <babo> what's the name of the ubunut glibc development packages ?
[06:24] <pussfeller> the kernel driver
[06:24] <intelikey> Larry1981 i think that's  vga=791   not sure
[06:24] <acke> rpedro and has just recently started bothering me, and my landlord in perticular
[06:24] <mlalkaka> which one is better, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer, and why? if you install all the gstreamer plugins, isn't gstreamer just as good? what are the benefits of using totem-xine?
[06:24] <test> anyone help me here, i cant boot on my ubuntu, i got this error segmentation fault, /dev/hd4 does not exist
[06:24] <RussianVodka> Hello everyone.
[06:24] <dou213> agamotto, ok... should i try reinstalling filelight or would it be useless?
[06:24] <babo> garryfre: is it the nvidia linux driver install script ?
[06:24] <Larry1981> foil and intelikey: ok, I'll check for this
[06:24] <intelikey> 793 maybe
[06:25] <pussfeller> mlalkaka: totem-xine
[06:25] <roostishaw> anyone in here tried installing dancemania?
[06:25] <agamotto> dou213:  You don't need to do anything.  It is a known bug that just hasn't been sorted yet
[06:25] <pussfeller> mlalkaka: gstreamer is still work in progress and relatively buggy
[06:25] <intelikey> Larry1981 there is another way. svgatextmode
[06:25] <test> anyone know why i got these error segmentation fault?
[06:25] <agamotto> gstreamer improves greatly with each new version
[06:26] <mlalkaka> pussfeller: thanks
[06:26] <pvd2006> ahh, I got back into my system:)
[06:26] <roostishaw> anyone in here tried installing stepmania?
[06:26] <pvd2006> phew.
[06:26] <intelikey> Larry1981 but the vga= in the boot loader is the easist
[06:26] <slavik> tritium: are you still there?
[06:26] <bur[n] er_> anyone know how to do sound-juicer to mp3?
[06:26] <pussfeller> that might be true agamotto, i hope it keeps getting better since its such a great idea
[06:26] <mjb> hey is there an apt-get one liner to delete all of open office 1.xx apps? (leaving 2.xx)
[06:26] <babo> I tried to compile the nvidia driver from their site and it tells me there is a compilation error, and that I don't have a CC=gcc-3.4 or else I don't have the development libraries installed. This is annoying so say the least, as I hoped that I wouldn't have to compile the nvidia drivers again, everytime i booted up - like I had to do with breezy ...
[06:26] <iiiears> mlalkaka - They are both very good. What type of file are you having trouble with?
[06:26] <BigBon> there are 852 users in ubuntu and 192 users in Suse, is Ubuntu taking over the world?
[06:26] <garryfre> Here is the link that fixed my nvidia issue .... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[06:26] <Larry1981> intelikey: Yes, I already seen the infos about it using google.. the problem is, when I installed Ubuntu with 6.06 beta, the video mode was set correctly using the video mode I used during the install process... with the final release, it always set my video mode in text 80x24 :s
[06:26] <B1zz> of course
[06:26] <rpedro> acke, maybe it was some firmware upgrade that changed something, try searching on some related wiki/forum , maybe you'll find the solution, I really cant help since I dont have a netgear router
[06:26] <agamotto> It isn't perfect, but it is much better than the earlier programs that tried the same
[06:27] <Vaske_Car> Do I need to install Apache, PHP and MySql after installing 6.06 server? In not how do I activate them?
[06:27] <babo> kubuntu ?
[06:27] <babo> garryfre ^^
[06:27] <agamotto> KDE based Ubuntu... I am running it
[06:27] <BigBon>     o['=
[06:27] <babo> Does anyone know what the c developement libraries for ubuntu are called ?
[06:27] <garryfre> worked for kubuntu too. Don't do the thing about enabling driver, justt he stuff on the link.
[06:27] <intelikey> Larry1981 if you are a console user you would probably like svgatextmode....  i do.         Larry1981 grub ?
[06:27] <wraaa> Vaske_Car you should into lamp
[06:28] <Vaske_Car> wraaa, how?
[06:28] <tritium> babo: do you have build-essential installed?
[06:28] <wraaa> http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:28] <test> anyone here can help me with this error, segmentation fault... i cant log in to my ubuntu beacaus of this..
[06:28] <pussfeller> babo: build-essential
[06:28] <Larry1981> intelikey: Ohh, yes I have to check grub settings... I'll probably find the missing command there
[06:28] <babo> garryfre: I can't follow that link or read the tutorial because I can't startx ...
[06:28] <mjb> hey is there an apt-get one line to delete all of open office suite 1.xx apps? (leaving 2.xx) rather than ticking loads of packages in synaptic?
[06:28] <slavik> when I boot my computer, then log in, after gnome is done loading X dies. after logging in a second time, everything works ... Xorg.0.log is here: http://pastebin.com/761718
[06:28] <Sivik> has anyone had any problems with any nforce 4 mobo's and ff, termina, x-chat, kopete freezing or getting a black screen and then going back to the login screen or total freezing
[06:29] <garryfre> oh, ack, yeah, ye will need to use another os to view the page.
[06:29] <intelikey> Larry1981 that's where the  vga=791  line goes  :)
[06:29] <slavik> test: try to login through a console
[06:29] <iiiears> Vaske_Car - Like you i think L.A.M.P.  Linux Apache MySQL and PHP is already installed in the server version of Ubuntu. - ditto i am also a bit foggy on how to use them.
[06:29] <garryfre> Its not to hard to scribble it down.
[06:29] <cocox> hi, how can i access to a remote desktop knowing the public ip address ???
[06:30] <garryfre> OH, if you put vesa instead of nv or nvidia it might fix it. It did that for me just so I could get the gui.
[06:30] <acke> rpedro, yeah you gave me some valued hints. im right on it
[06:30] <babo> pussfeller: ok thanks ... I hate having to put development environments on my computer, just to startx though ...
[06:30] <Larry1981> intelikey: ok, i'll check this... thank you for the info :)
[06:30] <iiiears> !VNC
[06:30] <ubotu> I heard vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[06:30] <Vaske_Car> iiiears, they should be installed according to ubuntu.com but nobody know how to start them...
[06:30] <intelikey> np
[06:30] <w^x> bitch
[06:30] <intelikey> tty2 [root#~]  urpmq svgatext
[06:30] <intelikey> svgatextmode - Enable higher resolution text modes
[06:31] <w^x> lol
[06:31] <slavik> imo, ubuntu needs a devel version with all the development tools pre-installed
[06:31] <test> slavik, it says tty is turned off
[06:31] <slavik> hmm, and if you reboot?
[06:31] <gambit> is their a command i can format hard drive with from terminal?
[06:31] <garryfre> Good idea slavik
[06:31] <test> slavik, the same
[06:31] <babo> Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel ...
[06:31] <slavik> garryfre: I mean like java, gcc, anjuta, kdevelop, eclipse, mono, monodevelop
[06:31] <slavik> and all of them
[06:32] <garryfre> Yeah.
[06:32] <slavik> a hex viewer
[06:32] <z3r0_d> anybody here use PenguinTV?
[06:32] <babo> I hate to say it, but I'd hoped to have left all this behind when I installed dapper ...
[06:32] <test> what cause this error segmentation fault?
[06:32] <JoeMauch> i think i screwd up my ubuntu install setting up XGL, is there a way i can restore it?
[06:32] <freaks> gambit, mkfs
[06:32] <intelikey> gambit man fsck
[06:32] <iiiears> slavik - it is a security and simplicity issue as well as space on the CD. installing build-essential from the repositories and anjuta gets things started
[06:32] <MaKkY> hey i need help installing a .tgz file
[06:32] <harisund> people, I have a question. Is there a howto for Broadcom 43xx or 44xx drivers on Dapper?
[06:32] <gambit> ty guys
[06:32] <slavik> iiiears: I meant an offshoot from ubuntu :)
[06:32] <harisund> I have used ndiswrapper before, but I believe Dapper has better support for that
[06:32] <garryfre> That link shoudl fix your problem babo. I'd copy and paste into a memstick if you have it and go examine it, try changing the driver to vesa, it might work.
[06:33] <MaKkY> i need help installing *.bin file
[06:33] <slavik> test: I dunno, any program can cause that error
[06:33] <intelikey> gambit man mkfs       hehhe sorry.... don't know what i was thinking...
[06:33] <iiiears> slavik - i suppose if you build a meta package or an iso image "They will come.." - grin
[06:33] <slavik> MaKkY: what does that bin file supposed to install?
[06:33] <agamotto> MaKkY:  It should be as easy as ./thisprogram.bin
[06:33] <MaKkY> slavik: planeshift
[06:34] <MaKkY> agamotto: bash: ./planeshift.bin: Permission denied
[06:34] <slavik> MaKkY: make it executable (chmod +x) and then run it
[06:34] <babo> Does anyone know where I can find the correct kernel source rpm ?
[06:34] <MaKkY> slavik: how do i do that?
[06:34] <babo> why is it asking me for an rpm anyway ?
[06:35] <mo0se> !mp3
[06:35] <slavik> MaKkY: text in parenthesis is not for you to ignore
[06:35] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:35] <MaKkY> slavik: whats chmod?
[06:35] <slavik> MaKkY: man it :)
[06:35] <freaks> MaKkY, change file attribute
[06:35] <slavik> MaKkY: how old are you?
[06:35] <moonpatrol> does anyone know where i can get the newest version of kismet in a package form?
[06:35] <mjb> man chmod and get a good explanation
[06:35] <moonpatrol> it doesn't seem to be available through the package manager
[06:36] <babo> I don't understand how it worked up to now, and then the nvidia module just seemed to disappear...
[06:36] <MaKkY> slavik: im 16... and im new to Linux... sorry for asking questions...
[06:36] <slavik> MaKkY: what do you want to do after college?
[06:36] <freaks> i have being answered rtfm ;) beside most of the time man docs sucks :( and there's no usage examples..
[06:36] <slavik> ie: what do you want to work as?
[06:36] <iiiears> makky - planeshift. Nice! (wide grin) Thanks.
[06:36] <freaks> have = hate\
[06:37] <MaKkY> slavik: umm  go to medical school WHY?
[06:37] <slavik> freaks: rtfm is when you don't know the answer or you are using gentoo :P
[06:37] <MaKkY> iiiears: how do i install it?
[06:37] <slavik> MaKkY: then it doesn't apply so much to you
[06:37] <Madpilot> freaks, man chmod is one of the better ones, I think... which just means that it doesn't suck TOO bad ;)
[06:37] <wraaa> babo: did you install the nvidia-settings or nvidia-xconfig packages?
[06:37] <freaks> slavik, i know what rtfm is for ;)
[06:37] <wraaa> that makes nvidia-glx dissapear
[06:37] <intelikey> MaKkY questions are fine.   but if we give you a fish you eat one meal   if we teach you to fish......     so do your self  a favour and type this in a terminal  "man intro ;man man "
[06:37] <iiiears> Makky - I hadn't even seen it before you mentioned. sounds interesting.
[06:37] <wraaa> argh
[06:37] <Zambezi> Is anybody using Tor here? How much slower is the surfing?
[06:37] <slavik> MaKkY: in computers the most important thing is not to learn 20 different ways of doing things, but it is to learn to be able to learn.
[06:38] <mjb> hey on your memory monitor graph Is less % cache or more better?
[06:38] <freaks> Madpilot, haha good one :)
[06:38] <slavik> intelikey: if we teach them to fish, we lose our monopoly on fishing :(
[06:38] <agamotto> ehehehehe
[06:38] <intelikey> slavik no chance.....
[06:38] <z3r0_d> it's weird the interface hides things by default in PenguinTV
[06:38] <iiiears> lol@slavik
[06:38] <agamotto> I prefer to have them educated and thinking.. the mindless ones are the ones that sit here and scream Do it for me!
[06:38] <slavik> intelikey: unless we make good fisherman out of them and steal their fish ... or corporate takeover?
[06:39] <Geoffrey2> ok, the command chmod 777 does what?
[06:39] <stbrenner> whenever i close my laptop lid the screen just goes blank and is unresponsive.  the only way to get any kind of display is to log out by hitting ctrl+alt+backspace twice.  i've looked under the power management options and i have it set to do nothing when the lid is closed...but like i said it makes the screen become unresponsive.  any ideas?
[06:39] <MaKkY> slavik: i have no idea what i said/did to bring this up other than, not understand....
[06:39] <cocox> dudes i have a problem... when i try to connect to another pc(WAN) by terminal server.... my friend just gave me his ip public address.... and i get an error
[06:39] <intelikey> slavik just stay one 'honey hole' ahead of them....  :)
[06:39] <freaks> Geoffrey2, it allow anyone doing anything on a file .. potentialy dangerous 777 i men ..
[06:39] <MaKkY> slavik: all i want to know is how to install a *.bin file.... ;(
[06:39] <freaks> mean
[06:39] <slavik> MaKkY: it was the chmod question
[06:39] <intelikey> MaKkY sh file.bin
[06:40] <Gatton> Just installed Dapper. Gotta be record time for going from ISO to desktop. Just a thing of beauty
[06:40] <MaKkY> slavik: & i STILL don't know what chmod stands for...
[06:40] <slavik> MaKkY: if you want to know anything about a command, in terminal type in "man command" (where command is the command you want info about)
[06:40] <slavik> MaKkY: it was answered long ago :P
[06:40] <intelikey> ok i'll ignore MaKkY  now.
[06:40] <slavik> by freaks
[06:40] <mjb> "change the mode of a file
[06:40] <agamotto> CHangeMODe.  Now go forth, and read thy man pages, padawan
[06:40] <freaks> slavik,  yes?
[06:40] <B1zz> lol
[06:40] <slavik> (12:36:03 AM) freaks: MaKkY, change file attribute
[06:40] <MaKkY> ok.... im sorry guys.... ;(
[06:41] <freaks> oh :)
[06:41] <MaKkY> slavik: to what? *.exe?
[06:41] <slavik> MaKkY: never be sorry
[06:41] <slavik> no
[06:41] <MaKkY> slavik: to what then?
[06:41] <slavik> MaKkY: chmod +x filename.bin will make that file executable
[06:41] <agamotto> MaKkY:  Quit apologizing, and just go with the flow.  We aren't bitching at you, just encouraging you to read the manuals as you go.
[06:41] <agamotto> That whole muti-tasking thing.
[06:41] <MaKkY> agamotto: ight.....
[06:41] <slavik> agamotto: thank you for putting it clearly :)
[06:41] <intelikey> MaKkY sh file.bin
[06:42] <stbrenner> is it bad to leave your laptop running for long periods of time on a blank screen saver?
[06:42] <slavik> intelikey: how do you know that it is a bash script?
[06:42] <intelikey> pfft   never mind.
[06:42] <slavik> stbrenner: I wouldn't think so ...
[06:42] <agamotto> slavik:  The joy of a polyglot, you can clarify almost anything in many languages
[06:42] <intelikey> slavik i doubt it is a script.
[06:42] <stbrenner> slavik, what creates dead pixels?
[06:42] <mo0se> !avi
[06:42] <test> how can i solve this problem?, i cant log on to my ubuntu because of this error: segmentation fault
[06:42] <ubotu> from memory, avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:42] <slavik> intelikey: then why sh?
[06:42] <intelikey> slavik that will just exec it
[06:42] <MaKkY> intelikey: planeshift.bin: planeshift.bin: cannot execute binary file
[06:42] <garryfre> And in some old school nerd circles apologizing is considered a sign that you are a good mark for flaming, and can make you a tempting target. I know from personal experience. :)
[06:43] <Larry1981> well, the vga=791 option did work !! thank you
[06:43] <slavik> MaKkY: did you chmod +x it?
[06:43] <B1zz> lol
[06:43] <agamotto> stbrenner:  Not unless it has a much older lcd screen in it
[06:43] <slavik> MaKkY: chmod +x planeshift.bin
[06:43] <Larry1981> but why isn't it set by default in the install process as it was in the beta ?
[06:43] <intelikey> !sh
[06:43] <ubotu> intelikey: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:43] <slavik> !chmod
[06:43] <ubotu> chmod is, like, a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[06:43] <palomer> hello
[06:43] <slavik> :D
[06:43] <palomer> does tar -cf preserve ownership and permissions?
[06:43] <slavik> internet is for porn!
[06:43] <cocox> !vnc
[06:43] <B1zz> lol
[06:43] <ubotu> I guess vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[06:43] <MaKkY> THANK YOU slavik... yours worked
[06:44] <slavik> palomer: I would assume so ...
[06:44] <B1zz> i hate that vid clip.....
[06:44] <stbrenner> agamotto, so locking the screen on blank overnight won't create any burn ins, dead pixels, etc.?
[06:44] <slavik> MaKkY: I told you to chmod +x the file long ago ...
[06:44] <MaKkY> slavik: i was about to, then intelikey told me to do... the other thing & that didn't work then i tried your idea, & it worked THANK YOU!
[06:44] <slavik> stbrenner: it shouldn't
[06:44] <agamotto> stbrenner:  Shouldn't, unless the lcd is around 5 years old
[06:44] <garryfre> I knew one guy who mistook a turned off computer for one running a blank screensaver and spent two hours typing in a term paper. Till this day I wonder how he managed to spell-check it.
[06:44] <slavik> MaKkY: you are getting too excited :P
[06:44] <stbrenner> no it's about 1 month :)
[06:45] <paganini> I have a stupid problem
[06:45] <B1zz> ...
[06:45] <MaKkY> slavik: lol....
[06:45] <stbrenner> thats why i'm so paranoid
[06:45] <slavik> garryfre: no shit?
[06:45] <paganini> Does anyone know how to change the icon on the applications menu?
[06:45] <agamotto> Enthusiasm... don't quash it.  Like love, it is the greatest illusion our race has.
[06:45] <garryfre> yep, I was a ta at the time.
[06:45] <slavik> paganini: not sure, why would you want to? (you might also try the gnomes if we don't help you)
[06:45] <mjb> I once got a commodore 64 to play baa baa black sheep without a monitor, purely using the clicks of the keys as i entered in the program :)
[06:45] <MaKkY> slavik, can i also do that to .tgz files?
[06:46] <slavik> MaKkY: no
[06:46] <slavik> MaKkY: tgz files are archives
[06:46] <MaKkY> slavik: how do i install those?
[06:46] <slavik> you decompress them with another command
[06:46] <paganini> slavik: Well, I was customizing my look. And I seem to have changed it by accident to a giant apple (one of the custom icons). I think I have undone everything I did. but it hasn't changed back.
[06:46] <joemauch> hi, i installed compiz but i don't see it in gconf-editor under apps, can someone help?
[06:46] <slavik> it is probably a source code ...
[06:46] <MaKkY> slavik: i tried extracting then "cd" then ./configure
[06:46] <slavik> MaKkY: right
[06:46] <MaKkY> slavik: but it wouldn't allow me to ./configure
[06:46] <slavik> keep going
[06:46] <slavik> what did it say?
[06:47] <slavik> there should be an error there
[06:47] <slavik> that it gives
[06:47] <paganini> Is there a gnome channel I could ask in?
[06:47] <slavik> paganini: on gimpnet ...
[06:47] <paganini> OK
[06:47] <slavik> gimp sounds so ... gimpy and offensive
[06:47] <garryfre> Once had a co-worker spend all day goofing around with his "Stock" on the weekend instead of working, so I hacked his computer to show a fake loss of 10k dollars of his stock. Totally freaked him out.
[06:48] <slavik> garryfre: know if ralink driver supports packet injection?
[06:48] <agamotto> slavik:  Nyet.  Acronym meaning Graphic Image Manipulation Program
[06:48] <slavik> agamotto: I know ... but the acronym (when you say it) sounds offensive :P
[06:48] <slavik> agamotto: Pizdets ...
[06:49] <Geoffrey2> I just want to doublecheck, when using the man command...Ctrl-Z exits you back out of it?
[06:49] <Gatton> mmmm auto detected my windows shares. yummy
[06:49] <Gatton> yes i'm easily pleased
[06:49] <garryfre> Nope, dunno., hmm.
[06:49] <slavik> Geoffrey2: or pressing q
[06:49] <MaKkY> slavik: so how do i install the .tgx file
[06:50] <MaKkY> .tgz* :slavik
[06:50] <freaks> MaKkY, your knowledge level basic terminal commands won't allow you to compile and install such a big project as planeshift. i suggest you try compiling smaller apps 1st
[06:50] <intelikey> hmmm that should help.   i just rm'd 35 ./.* files and dirs from ~
[06:50] <garryfre> man tar
[06:50] <garryfre> er man gzip
[06:50] <Geoffrey2> ok, so chmod changes file permissions...what command can I use to find out the present permissions set on a file? ls doesn't seem to have that as an option
[06:50] <MaKkY> freaks: i already installed planeshift...
[06:50] <Kyral> ls -a
[06:50] <Kyral> er
[06:50] <Kyral> ls -lah
[06:50] <freaks> MaKkY, really ? nice :)
[06:51] <troy_s> ls -l
[06:51] <freaks> MaKkY, so whats left?
[06:51] <MaKkY> freaks: lol slavik helped but yes...
[06:51] <MaKkY> freaks: Cedega, so i can play other MMO's
[06:51] <intelikey> i'm with kyral   ls -lAh
[06:51] <slavik> Geoffrey2: -l to ls :)
[06:51] <troy_s> long format should suffice :)
[06:51] <troy_s> unless you want your hiddens
[06:51] <intelikey> i don't care to see the . and ..  but the rest is good.
[06:51] <MaKkY> freaks: Cedega allows Linux users to play games that aren't availiable for Linux...yet
[06:51] <freaks> MaKkY, great .. but you know cedega is not free right?
[06:52] <slavik> MaKkY: when ./configure fails, what error does it give you?
[06:52] <MaKkY> freaks: got it off Frostwire
[06:52] <MaKkY> freaks: LOL ;)
[06:52] <wims> how do i set up totem for streaming mms:// links ?
[06:52] <slavik> anyone else live in NYC?
[06:52] <wims> or any other application for that matter
[06:52] <ChefWill> anyone using dapper and totem-xine plugin for ff1.5 experiencing really bright streaming video pictures?
[06:52] <freaks> MaKkY, maybe you could give "wine" a try.. it's same as cedega but free...btw cedega is based on wine ..
[06:53] <MaKkY> slavik: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[06:53] <intelikey> lol
[06:53] <MaKkY> freaks: its there a game compatibility list?
[06:53] <Adamant1988> Uhm for burning Ubuntu with k3b which is the best write mode? toa, Doa, etc?
[06:53] <denver1> has anyone used easyubuntu?
[06:53] <freaks> MaKkY, think so yes, on cedega website
[06:53] <slavik> MaKkY: don't use bash to run everything
[06:53] <agamotto> Adamant1988:  It is usually best to just let K3b decide it for you
[06:53] <slavik> oh, nvm
[06:53] <MaKkY> freaks: so its the same, then why do they charge for Cedega
[06:54] <chapium> denver1: I used it back on breezy
[06:54] <Adamant1988> ok agamotto
[06:54] <Larry1981> ANybody here have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Final ?
[06:54] <garryfre> I tried easybuntu, it didn't like my system.
[06:54] <freaks> MaKkY, it's written on their site :)
[06:54] <slavik> MaKkY: because cedega people wrote some extra tools that don't come with ubuntu
[06:54] <garryfre> dapper that is.
[06:54] <slavik> Larry1981: most of us
[06:54] <chapium> Adamant1988: yes..
[06:54] <freaks> MaKkY, btw i don't like cedega, i prefer wine
[06:54] <Nae> can anyone confirm if LVM is in dapper desktop edition?
[06:54] <Nae> I cant seem to find it
[06:54] <garryfre> Yep
[06:54] <MaKkY> slavik: how do i not use bash i only know how to use bash & sudo
[06:54] <Desh> Has anyone gotten ndiswrapper working on Dapper?
[06:54] <agamotto> Nae:  alt disc
[06:54] <MaKkY> freaks: alright ill get wine
[06:54] <intelikey> Larry1981 unfrotunately yes it do.
[06:54] <slavik> MaKkY: you try './configure' in terminal?
[06:55] <MaKkY> freaks: is it availible from synaptic
[06:55] <freaks> sure
[06:55] <slavik> MaKkY: disregard that bash statement
[06:55] <Larry1981> slavik: COuld you go in System -> Preferences -> Power Management ? And then tell me if you see <b> and </b> on the first tab.
[06:55] <MaKkY> slavik: yes i tried that
[06:55] <slavik> MaKkY: and?
[06:55] <MaKkY> slavik: and the error i showed you
[06:55] <Geoffrey2> lesse, the three flags are rwx...read, write, and execute, right?
[06:55] <intelikey> xml errors lol
[06:55] <denver1> chapium, what did yu think of it?
[06:55] <slavik> MaKkY: is this from a tgz file?
[06:55] <intelikey> just to add the the long and growing list of bugs
[06:56] <slavik> Geoffrey2: yes
[06:56] <slavik> Larry1981: what am I looking for again?
[06:56] <chapium> denver1: it did the job fine, although I didnt have use for most of what it could install
[06:56] <Geoffrey2> lesse, chmod 333 would give everyone read and write, but not execute?
[06:56] <denver1> same here
[06:56] <MaKkY> slavik: i extract the .tgz using 'tar -xvzf file.tgz' then i go to the directory then i try './configure' & i get error
[06:57] <slavik> Geoffrey2: nope, 0333 would give everyone write and execute
[06:57] <Larry1981> slavik: Look at the first tab "Running on AC Power" and check if you see <b> and </b> around it
[06:57] <slavik> MaKkY: pastebin the output from ls
[06:57] <slavik> nope
[06:57] <intelikey> slavik an xml error  the html code showing  <b> and </b>
[06:57] <denver1> has anyone tried mepis which now used mainly ubuntu packages?
[06:57] <slavik> intelikey: I see
[06:57] <slavik> not here
[06:57] <MaKkY> slavik: i got to go, ill try it again tomorrow thx for helping though
[06:57] <intelikey> i'd look but i 86'd gnome an hour ago
[06:57] <Larry1981> slavik: Did you updateUbuntu  today ?
[06:58] <distanceisdeath> how do i transfer files to a restricted folder?
[06:58] <slavik> Larry1981: hold on
[06:58] <chapium> distanceisdeath: sudo mv is easiest
[06:58] <Larry1981> slavik: Ok
[06:58] <maikol-tmp> anyone here know how to fix hardware freezes
[06:58] <intelikey> distanceisdeath with mv in the terminal     using sudo
[06:58] <distanceisdeath> all right
[06:58] <troy_s> maikol:  they can sometimes be negotiates.  need more info.
[06:58] <distanceisdeath> can i do it without the terminal?
[06:58] <slavik> there aren't any upgrades
[06:58] <iiiears> denver1 - Yes, don't bother. - stick with Ubuntu.
[06:59] <chapium> distanceisdeath: you could technically sudo nautilus --nodesktop too
[06:59] <troy_s> distanceisdeath:  learn the term.
[06:59] <distanceisdeath> im just bad with code...linux.
[06:59] <intelikey> distanceisdeath you can.  the run command option   but if it errors out you will never know what or why
[06:59] <troy_s> distanceisdeath:  you learn the term now, you learn faster and quicker later.
[06:59] <troy_s> distanceisdeath:  and you can help others.
[06:59] <denver1> yeah i'm running kubuntu64
[06:59] <intelikey> oh gksudo nautilus distanceisdeath
[06:59] <distanceisdeath> sudo mv ~/fsafdsafas/ /gsfgsgf/
[07:00] <iiiears> denver1 - If you feel the need install it using vmware player. - at least you won't have a big mess to clean up.
[07:00] <distanceisdeath> is that right?
[07:00] <maikol-tmp> troy_s, while running windows, after a while everything freezes, the hdd led stays on, the cd drive stops wrking and nothing works: everything software wise i frozen. in knoppix the same happens except the mouse still works
[07:00] <troy_s> you mean in running x windows?
[07:00] <MaKkY> slavik: before i go, how do i run a program i cant find?
[07:00] <intelikey> distanceisdeath looks good
[07:00] <slavik> MaKkY: planeshift?
[07:00] <denver1> mess?
[07:00] <troy_s> maikol:  do you know how to change your driver to vesa in xorg.conf?
[07:00] <maikol-tmp> troy_s, no, the sucky windows ME
[07:00] <MaKkY> slavik: i know its in my /usr directory
[07:00] <troy_s> maikol:  you are in the wrong channel for winblows.
[07:00] <MaKkY> slavik: no... wine
[07:01] <troy_s> ubotu, tell maikol-tmp about windows
[07:01] <intelikey> distanceisdeath add -R  if that is a dir full of crap
[07:01] <garryfre> Sounds like a dying hard drive, check the boot up stuff for messages about smartdrive errors.
[07:01] <maikol-tmp> troy_s, in happens in linux as well
[07:01] <slavik> MaKkY: oh, you have a .exe that you want to run, then it's wine windows.exe
[07:01] <Adamant1988> maikol-tmp that's most certainly a hardware issue, you're in the wrong channel..
[07:01] <distanceisdeath> okay
[07:01] <troy_s> maikol-tmp:  ubuntu specifc only.
[07:01] <MaKkY> ahhhh....
[07:01] <MaKkY> i see
[07:01] <maikol-tmp> Adamant1988, channel suggestions?
[07:01] <Larry1981> slavik: Well, maybe it is a problem on the DVD version.
[07:01] <skippy81> knowledgable people out there, the one thing i really depend on xwindows for is copying text out of one file and pasting it into another, is there a good way i can go about this from a shell prompt?
[07:01] <MaKkY> slavik: thx
[07:01] <slavik> like intelikey told you to use sh for that .bin file, here it is wine for the .exe file :)
[07:01] <intelikey> distanceisdeath -R = recursive.    man mv  for all the details.
[07:01] <MaKkY> later everyone...
[07:01] <denver1> iiiears, what do you mean by a "big mess to clean up"?
[07:02] <Adamant1988> Hrmm, I'm not familiar with freenode, but IMO no one is going to be able to fix it online
[07:02] <MaKkY> slavik: no... just wanted to know how wine worked
[07:02] <Adamant1988> do you have a best buy or computer shot near you?
[07:02] <MaKkY> gtg... later
[07:02] <Adamant1988> shop*
[07:02] <troy_s> skipps:  you mean a raw cli?
[07:02] <troy_s> skipps:  as in no x?
[07:02] <skippy81> yeah troy_s, as in something i could do over ssh
[07:03] <skippy81> i assume emacs etc have some sort of area you can dump text in maybe
[07:03] <troy_s> skipps:  iirc there was a little mouse driven thing that you can use in a term (local)
[07:03] <iiiears> denver1 Mepis is okay but, it takes more effort to install because it doesn't recognize as many different types of hardware.
[07:03] <troy_s> skipps:  how do you want to do this?  like cut from one virt term to another?
[07:03] <troy_s> skipps:  something like that?
[07:03] <denver1> iiiears, oh ok
[07:03] <skippy81> yeah troy that would be awesome :)
[07:03] <skippy81> i even tried control c lol, but no avail
[07:04] <intelikey> skippy81 sure i do that all the time.   you can cat or less or grep the file with the text and  gpm = general purpose mouse     copy and paste across tty's
[07:04] <Adamant1988> maikol-tmp no one is going to be able to repair that online... Try going to a local computer shop, or best buy and having your system checked out
[07:04] <troy_s> skipps:  i wish i could remember the little tool.  basically it gave you a simple little mouse cursor (in text mode -- just a big block) that you could drag and such with.  although vi and yank works well.
[07:04] <Geoffrey2> how do I kill a stopped job?
[07:04] <intelikey> gpm
[07:04] <intelikey> troy_s gpm
[07:04] <skippy81> ah, this gpm mouse thing must be what gentoo has on its live cd
[07:04] <skippy81> i will try it :)
[07:04] <troy_s> skipps:  you can hybrid vi and use yank etc to the command term from within vi.
[07:04] <Adamant1988> Yay ubuntu finished burning
[07:05] <Adamant1988> Talk to you guys later :)
[07:05] <intelikey> gpm's the dinctum
[07:05] <Whitynz> Hmm I seem to have broken grub, with an error 17
[07:05] <skippy81> ive been having such a good time on linux lately i think im really going to make an effort to learn it inside out
[07:06] <intelikey> it's like the cat's meyow
[07:06] <troy_s> skipps:  i HIGHLY recommend "how linux works" from no starch press.
[07:06] <Whitynz> Could having to installations of ubuntu cause this?
[07:06] <Adrian_NZ> Hey, I just upgraded to the new version of ubuntu and I'm having trouble with the network connection. Anyone think they can give me a hand?
[07:06] <troy_s> skipps:  it is a _very_ well done book.
[07:06] <Whitynz> to = two
[07:06] <kholerabbi> Anyone know an ip anonymizer?
[07:07] <krazykit> kholerabbi: tor
[07:07] <tkjacobsen> Adrian_NZ: what's the problem
[07:07] <intelikey> Whitynz two installs one differing partitions.  no i have had up to 5 linux installs at one time...
[07:07] <iiiears> Adrian_NZ - WiFi?
[07:08] <Whitynz> intelikey: yes they are on different partitions
[07:08] <iiiears> !wifi
[07:08] <ubotu> well, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:08] <Geoffrey2> ok, I went into man twice, and used Ctrl-Z instead of q, which apparently simply stopped the process but didn't terminate it...now I can't exit the Terminal window because it says "There are stopped jobs"...how do I shut down those two stopped jobs?
[07:08] <Whitynz> so hmm, what would cause Grub error 17, I just installed dapper
[07:08] <troy_s> geoffrey2:  man kill
[07:08] <krazykit> Geoffrey2: kill them
[07:08] <troy_s> geoffry2:  man ps
[07:08] <intelikey> Whitynz did you google "Grub error 17"  ?
[07:08] <poje> Geoffrey2: killall man
[07:08] <Whitynz> of course intelikey
[07:09] <Whitynz> and searched ubuntu forums
[07:09] <poje> Geoffrey2: and look up kill for future reference :)
[07:09] <frank_> Geoffrey2: fg   brings the job back to foreground
[07:09] <intelikey> odd i seem to recall some http pages about that.
[07:09] <troy_s> geoffrey2:  learn ps and kill, don't kill processes indiscriminately.
[07:09] <bein> first time I am on ... is there live people here?
[07:09] <Red_E_Made> I need help
[07:09] <Gatton> we are all bots
[07:09] <agamotto> bein: oui
[07:10] <intelikey> bein no
[07:10] <troy_s> bein:  no
[07:10] <troy_s> intellikey:  laf.  GIT OUT OF MY HEAD.
[07:10] <garryfre> www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm
[07:10] <iiiears> bein - Welcome!
[07:10] <intelikey> lol
[07:10] <Geoffrey2> that worked...just brought them back to foreground and exited properly
[07:10] <skydragon38> bein - sorta alive, sorta not.
[07:10] <Whitynz> thanks garryfre
[07:10] <garryfre> np
[07:10] <troy_s> where did skipps go?
[07:10] <schmity> to the ho-motel
[07:10] <Geoffrey2> brb, gotta reboot and see if the latest fix for the wlan actually worked :)
[07:11] <Red_E_Made> after upgrading with synaptic, I lost root terminal, apt, synaptic
[07:11] <troy_s> ouch
[07:11] <bein> very good. I just installed the latest version of ubuntu after trying the live CD for some time. Please riddle me this: Why does acpi work for the live CD but not for the istalled version on my laptop?
[07:11] <garryfre> lol
[07:11] <intelikey> you said get out
[07:11] <troy_s> worse yet, you typed it faster.
[07:11] <moonpatrol> bein, what version of ubuntu?
[07:11] <bein> the dapper thing
[07:11] <agamotto> bein:  We are the Borg.  Your technological and biological distinctiveness belong to us.  Prepare to be assimiliated.
[07:11] <moonpatrol> erm actually, what laptop
[07:12] <jadaz87> is there a manual way to run xserver?
[07:12] <intelikey> intelikey; error no user interface found
[07:12] <troy_s> jadaz: startx
[07:12] <iiiears> bein - This channel may arguably one of ubuntu's greatest "features" ubotu the channel info program is also very helpful    use " !ubotu <your item/topic" to find a link.
[07:12] <troy_s> double ouch
[07:12] <moonpatrol> i just upgraded from breezy to dapper, and my acpi works now :-D
[07:12] <poje> agamotto: resistence is futile, but preferred.
[07:12] <Toma-> anyone have a horrendous time getting nvidia drivers working in dapper? i cant get anything to work
[07:12] <iiiears> !acpi
[07:12] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iiiears
[07:12] <moonpatrol> the only thing i hate is that kismet isn't updated to the newest one yet
[07:12] <bein> to iiiears: sorry?
[07:12] <garryfre> Yes Toma. There is a link ... lemme get ...
[07:13] <Toma-> thanks
[07:13] <slavik> Toma-: :D
[07:13] <slavik> moonpatrol: update it yourself :)
[07:13] <iiiears> bein - No idea about acpi sorry.
[07:13] <apokryphos> Toma-: have you followed the guide?
[07:13] <agamotto> As a bit of an off-topic... how many here are expecting their systems to go down tomorrow?
[07:13] <moonpatrol> im not sure how
[07:13] <agamotto> The whole 666 thing?
[07:13] <agamotto> heheeheh
[07:13] <fiendskull9> hey
[07:13] <garryfre> Do the instructions on this link, exactly, igonore the thing about activating the driver you might see on symantec ... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[07:13] <troy_s> toma-:  nvidia is closed source -- send them your thoughts on their support for open source drivers and specs.
[07:13] <Toma-> ive tried the nvidia-glx ones, the legacy ones, the official ones and nothing is giving me any love :(
[07:13] <apokryphos> agamotto: today 8)
[07:13] <fiendskull9> is there a GUI frontend for FFmpeg available?
[07:14] <moonpatrol> slavik, are you suggesting using the actual source ?
[07:14] <troy_s> agamotto:  0% of ubuntu users are that wanky to think there is going to be any impact other than the need to poop.
[07:14] <bein> my questions is: should not everything be the same after I install the live version?
[07:14] <Toma-> apokryphos: i know the guide.
[07:14] <troy_s> fiendskull:  learn the term.
[07:14] <garryfre> You are half way there Toma the glx is part of the solution.
[07:14] <apokryphos> Toma-: have you followed it; if so, where are you experiencing problems?
[07:14] <poje> agamotto: how do we know satan isn't a cool guy ready to kick back and play a few rounds on the Wii with ya?  Also, the 666 thing is most likely a mistranslation, so...this is kinda moot
[07:14] <troy_s> toma-:  that is probably an error on your end then :)
[07:14] <agamotto> troy_s:  grin
[07:14] <Adrian_NZ> The new kernel (after upgrading to dapper) doesn't like my ethernet card, it dectects and and all appears to be ok but it i can't connect to anything on my network (or internet). Doesn't seem to send/receive any data at all. Anyone got any ideas?
[07:14] <fiendskull9> troy_s, what do you mean?
[07:15] <Toma-> apokryphos: ok, i cant get a glx module and hence, nvidia to load together
[07:15] <poje> Oh yeah, and it's already 1am 6.6.06, so...shrug!
[07:15] <fiendskull9> troy_s, if you trying to be sly and cunning, then cut the crap
[07:15] <TTilus> fiendskull9: what do you want to do (with the gui frontend)
[07:15] <iiiears> feindskull - ffmpeg is the base that most of players build on for mp3s. mplayer, xmms, totem, VLC, etc.
[07:15] <slavik> moonpatrol: sure, just use checkinstall
[07:15] <troy_s> fiendskull:  i mean get away from guis.  They have led to a braindead computer culture that pays big bucks to companies like ms and apple to point and click their way to easyness.
[07:15] <fiendskull9> iiiears, also, ffmpeg can encode avi files to dvd
[07:15] <apokryphos> Toma-: which glx module? You mean *the* glx module?
[07:15] <troy_s> fiendskull:  learn how to use the term.  your knowledge will thank you.
[07:15] <fiendskull9> iiiears, and im doing some mass conversion, and im getting tired of command line
[07:15] <Toma-> i mean THE glx module.
[07:15] <apokryphos> Toma-: what's the error when you startx?
[07:16] <Toma-> i think some links have been hosed. :(
[07:16] <poje> troy_s: you don't work on your car's break system, do you?
[07:16] <troy_s> fiendskull:  learn the term, then learn some skripting.
[07:16] <troy_s> poje:  a computer isn't a car friend.
[07:16] <fiendskull9> troy_s, learn to spell, and my name is fiendskull9
[07:16] <troy_s> poje:  nor even close to it.
[07:16] <apokryphos> Toma-: what links, symbolic ones?
[07:16] <iiiears> feindskull - nice bit of work eh? - (got to hope patent law doesn't strangle them.)
[07:16] <Toma-> hang on
[07:16] <agamotto> A computer is much easier to fix
[07:16] <agamotto> hehehehe
[07:16] <apokryphos> !tab
[07:16] <Icky> how would i get the latest ubuntu repositories?
[07:16] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, and for filename completion on the Linux command line.
[07:16] <poje> troy_s: from a usability standpoint, there are paralells
[07:16] <poje> *parallels
[07:16] <apokryphos> Icky: see the FAQ
[07:16] <troy_s> poje:  if you only used a computer to get from a to b, sure.  but it is far more than that in today's society.
[07:17] <moonpatrol> checkinstall?
[07:17] <slavik> moonpatrol: yes
[07:17] <TTilus> fiendskull9: "mass conversion" like many files or?
[07:17] <Toma-> Dmesg says: NVRM: RM/client version mismatch!! And Xorg.old says  NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[07:17] <poje> troy_s: for most users, that is exactly what it is - I love CLIs but I don't kid myself about users at large ever starting to use it (or even needing to)
[07:17] <troy_s> fiendskull9:  there are a good selection of shell scripts out there to do that for you in batch mode.
[07:17] <fiendskull9> mmk
[07:17] <fiendskull9> ill check it out
[07:18] <agamotto> Text consoles are great for some things, horrible at others.  That is why both interfaces are included with most Linux versions
[07:18] <slavik> who wants to hear something funny (why debian > red hat)
[07:18] <moonpatrol> slavik: what exactly is checkinstall? i can't find any manpages on it
[07:18] <intelikey> agamotto what would the "others" be ?
[07:18] <slavik> moonpatrol: go to the home page
[07:18] <iiiears> ffmpeg = video  Oops. (embarrassed.)
[07:18] <troy_s> agamotto:  actually one predicates the other.  x is on top of the cli.
[07:18] <kakalto_> how can I "deep remove", or like, completely remove a metapackage, like "ubuntu-desktop"?
[07:18] <adamant1988> sure slavik go ahead
[07:18] <poje> slavik: Because?
[07:18] <cdubya> !dapperupgrade
[07:18] <apokryphos> slavik: #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:18] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cdubya
[07:18] <agamotto> slavik:  Amuse me, monkeyperson
[07:18] <cdubya> !upgrade
[07:18] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[07:19] <kakalto_> (removing all its dependencies aswell)
[07:19] <garryfre> Follow the info on that link, it should fix it. It shows you were to get the kernel module for the kernel you are using and worked fine Toma. Ye might have to carefully add sync rates and resolution specs to the xorg.conf
[07:19] <slavik> moonpatrol: after you do ./configure, you do sudo checkinstall and it will build the sources and make a nice deb file for you :)
[07:19] <bein> so why does not work the same after you install the CD?
[07:19] <feross> ahh, I created a frankenstein.. I installed Ubuntu then read somewhere that you can install kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu desktop so I did just to give it a shot.. Now my bootup screen says kubuntu.. the login is xubuntu and the desktop is gnome...
[07:19] <apokryphos> slavik: no, you still have to make
[07:19] <poje> slavik: does checkinstall do make make;make install or just make install?
[07:19] <slavik> apokryphos: nope ...
[07:19] <cdubya> so the wiki there is not for updating to rc but to stable, right?
[07:19] <slavik> it does make, too ... at least for me ...
[07:19] <adamant1988> Hrmmm... how often does that easy install thing work?
[07:19] <garryfre> See sessions, and you can switch your defualt gui
[07:20] <moonpatrol> slavik: so that's a command in kismet ?
[07:20] <adamant1988> easy ubuntu
[07:20] <apokryphos> slavik: make is traditionally done by the user; checkinstall requires root privs
[07:20] <Fujitsu> !easyubuntu
[07:20] <ubotu> hmm... easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[07:20] <slavik> moonpatrol: to get it to work ;)
[07:20] <firecraft> hello people
[07:20] <slavik> apokryphos: sudo checkinstall :)
[07:20] <adamant1988> I'm thinking I might get rid of windows
[07:20] <apokryphos> slavik: exactly
[07:20] <firecraft> you guys know of any channels that deals w/ web stuff ?
[07:20] <apokryphos> slavik: that means you'd be running make with user privs
[07:21] <slavik> right
[07:21] <agamotto> adamant1988:  I did three years ago, and I don't miss it
[07:21] <moonpatrol> haha, im an idiot
[07:21] <poje> slavik: the checkinstall page says that you do make beforehand
[07:21] <apokryphos> slavik: *without
[07:21] <slavik> but don't you need sudo checkinstall anyway even after make?
[07:21] <moonpatrol> i didn't realize checkinstall was something you need to make
[07:21] <iiiears> firecraft #apache   ??
[07:21] <slavik> poje: I never did it ...
[07:21] <adamant1988> Well, I'll miss the functionality is easyubuntu doesn't work agamotto
[07:21] <garryfre> I tried the easybuntu, and it failed to resolve something, but I bet it was a result of me not rtm before upgrading.
[07:21] <TTilus> firecraft: "deals w/ web stuff" like webmastering or surfing or?
[07:21] <firecraft> iiiears i was thinking more of design based chans
[07:21] <apokryphos> slavik: yes, you need it *after*; make install is the root part. checkinstall is a replacement for make install.
[07:21] <slavik> garryfre: automatix and easyubuntu are not ready for dapper yet
[07:21] <taotime> hi folks, wanted to ask a question about installing xubuntu on a really old ibm aptiva desktop
[07:22] <slavik> apokryphos: fine
[07:22] <TTilus> firecraft: ah, i know none
[07:22] <slavik> taotime: does it have a CPU?
[07:22] <slavik> taotime: does it have a monitor?
[07:22] <adamant1988> Oh so they're not prepared for use on Dapper... meaning I should hold off a while.
[07:22] <firecraft> i must be seeing things lol
[07:22] <slavik> adamant1988: yes
[07:22] <garryfre> Oh thanks, good to know Slavik. :)
[07:22] <firecraft> TTilus it is ;)
[07:22] <Toma-> apokryphos: ok, "Invalid module format" when loading nvidia from xorg. also, "modinfo nvidia" returns nothing at all :(
[07:23] <intelikey> cpu ????
[07:23] <taotime> slavik: yeah sure, amd k6 i m trying to install but the cdrom boot option is not availale
[07:23] <kakalto_> how can I remove a {k,ed,x,}ubuntu-desktop package and all that it installs?
[07:23] <intelikey> hmmm decentralized processing.......
[07:23] <apokryphos> Toma-: you installed nvidia-glx?
[07:23] <moonpatrol> doh
[07:23] <cdubya> so the upgrade is basically changing every instance of the word breezy in sources.list file to dapper and then   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:23] <cdubya> ?
[07:23] <moonpatrol> trying to configure kismet fails
[07:23] <Toma-> apokryphos: yep. ill even reinstall it now
[07:23] <kakalto_> cdubya: that's one method, yeah
[07:23] <iiiears> firecraft: Hm.. ircsearch.com is all i can think of. - sorry.
[07:23] <garryfre> Toma ye should be able to load all your stuff you need from symantik repositories.
[07:23] <konfuzed> so _johns upgrade seemed to go reasonably well
[07:24] <garryfre> Are you using Breezy or Dapper Toma?
[07:24] <firecraft> btw the ubuntu cd i ran on 9x OS w/ fat 32 ran w/o a problem but this xp box won't load jack squat.. i wonder why.. its got ntfs but that shouldn't matter cause i was trying out the live cd.
[07:24] <apokryphos> Toma-: reconfigure your x this time with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:24] <Toma-> apokryphos: done that
[07:24] <konfuzed> i had to enable the ethernet adapter though before discovering that a link on shoutcast.com did not produce music
[07:24] <apokryphos> Toma-: ok, if it's definitely installed, then pastebin your xorg.conf
[07:24] <Toma-> rightio
[07:25] <konfuzed> hey so when is the next minor update to dapper ?
[07:25] <taotime> slavik: u there ?
[07:25] <apokryphos> konfuzed: there aren't minor update stages for dapper
[07:25] <apokryphos> konfuzed: there's a dapper-updates, dapper-security repositories that can be updated at any time
[07:25] <konfuzed> well ok how about 6.0.7 or 6.0.8
[07:25] <iiiears> firecraft - Are you having trouble with ubuntu finding all the available partitions? winmac_fstab.sh bash script will find *everything*
[07:25] <chapium> konfuzed: there are sometimes weekly updates
[07:25] <skippy81> its a shame, i really miss the daily dapper suprises i used to download :(
[07:25] <kakalto_> konfuzed: as they fix stuff and find security stuff and fix it, they update those repos
[07:25] <apokryphos> konfuzed: huh?
[07:25] <Toma-> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15175
[07:26] <skippy81> i cant wait for edgy beta :)
[07:26] <apokryphos> Toma-: you selected teh nv driver :)
[07:26] <apokryphos> *the
[07:26] <konfuzed> well the install version claims to be dapper 6.0.6
[07:26] <konfuzed> and the same on the dvd that was downloaded
[07:26] <kakalto_> konfuzed: 6.06. not 6.0.6
[07:26] <Toma-> apokryphos: yes. to use X. its set to nvidia when it bombs out...
[07:26] <apokryphos> konfuzed: cat /etc/issue ?
[07:26] <garryfre> Might try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:26] <kakalto_> konfuzed: (year)6.(month)06
[07:27] <apokryphos> Toma-: show me the xorg.conf after you did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure and have selected nvidia as the driver
[07:27] <taotime> does anybody know about floppy booting for xubuntu, any help is appreciated
[07:27] <konfuzed> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[07:27] <Toma-> apokryphos: itll be exactly the same with nvidia in driver section....
[07:27] <konfuzed> i havent upgraded yet
[07:27] <konfuzed> that was _john
[07:27] <Icky> so i should upgrade from warty to hoary?
[07:27] <Icky> and then hoary to breezy?
[07:27] <apokryphos> konfuzed: so what's the problem?
[07:27] <konfuzed> er _john's computer
[07:27] <kakalto_> Icky: yes.
[07:27] <Icky> thanks
[07:28] <apokryphos> Icky: you're on warty?
[07:28] <skippy81> taotime, be more specific please - you could use a grub floppy to gain access to your PC if you have wiped the MBR
[07:28] <konfuzed> i had to enable the ethernet adapter though before discovering that a link on shoutcast.com did not produce music
[07:28] <konfuzed> it seems like amarok hangs
[07:28] <kakalto_> Icky: you could have some issues moving from warty to hoary
[07:28] <spikeb> Icky, yep, that's how it goes
[07:28] <skippy81> but taotime, theres no way you could fit a working ubuntu onto a floppy, even if its xfce :)
[07:28] <Toma-> *sigh* what a headache. should have stuck with breezy
[07:28] <kakalto_> Icky: I did, but that's no guarantee.
[07:28] <apokryphos> kakalto_: there shouldn't really be any
[07:28] <kakalto_> Toma-: why do you say that?
[07:28] <taotime> skippy81: i am trying to install xubuntu on a very old machine, where the cdrom autoboot option is not available.
[07:28] <garryfre> The kernel is too big, bigger than the floppy.
[07:28] <skippy81> Toma-:  its worth it in the end - the duck will be yours :)
[07:28] <konfuzed> wow these waudruple choco cookies are amazing
[07:28] <skippy81> taotime, oh i see
[07:29] <Toma-> kakalto: nothing but errors in dapper so far. with some pretty artwork to look at behind them tho :)
[07:29] <steveO> I was able to upgrade to dapper pretty flawlessly as far as I can tell!
[07:29] <konfuzed> my fingers must be full
[07:29] <kakalto_> Toma-: eh, that won't affect me, I don't get the artwork, just base =P
[07:29] <konfuzed> *quadrupple choco
[07:29] <taotime> skippy81:  i checked the groups and help files on uubuntu website.. i dont know if i can make boot floppies from the cd
[07:29] <Toma-> ahh youll get the ncurses errors :D
[07:30] <konfuzed> the system sure seems damn slow on the internet
[07:30] <Toma-> ill give these official drivers another go.
[07:30] <skippy81> taotime, i dont think you could - also where would you be drawing the installation source from? i guess a network install might be possible with some hacking
[07:30] <ghais> hello everyone, how do I enable host name completion for ping and ssh. It is working for everything else
[07:30] <kakalto_> Toma-: =D just been fixing some of them from breezy :P
[07:30] <taotime> skippy81:  the computer is old and has a cdrom drive.  i just cannot get it to boot
[07:31] <konfuzed> that was in hoary and dapper
[07:31] <skippy81> taotime, forgive me lol, i thought you had no CD :)
[07:31] <taotime> skippy81:  that is cool
[07:31] <skippy81> taotime, i will do a bit of reseach for you, i  am sure what you want must be possible
[07:31] <skippy81> brb
[07:31] <garryfre> Rats, I just heard of some program to fool an old machine into booting a cdrom when it wont normally do so, just yesterday, but I can't recall where.
[07:31] <Icky> should i just download the latest ?
[07:32] <taotime> skippy81: i m trying to help some of my buddies who have really old computers there are going to throw it away... or buy a new one... i m doing this so that they can try linux on the old machine..
[07:32] <Icky> would that be better than upgrading from hoary to breezy to dapper
[07:32] <apokryphos> Icky: if you want, but you'll have to do a full reinstall.
[07:32] <skippy81> cool, well taotime, im sure there is a way
[07:32] <apokryphos> Icky: no upgrade
[07:32] <konfuzed> hhhhmmm the scary part is that the win98 box beside it runs through webpages faster than ubuntu
[07:32] <iiiears> taotime - my memory may be a little foggy on that too. "el torito:??
[07:32] <Icky> apokryphos, is it just as stable to do the upgrades?
[07:32] <Icky> its like 3 different upgrades
[07:32] <taotime> skippy81: actually i tried to borrow one of those external cdroms but they are not recognised up until after the operating system loads
[07:33] <apokryphos> Icky: doing three upgrades is a real hassle; I'd just back up my data (/etc/, /var, /home) and do a reinstall
[07:33] <steveO> Where the hell is TCL installed on Ubuntu?
[07:33] <skippy81> taotime - you are positive that your bios does not support configarable boot devices? does it only let you choose between floppy and hard disk?
[07:33] <taotime> i mean this computer is old : 133 KHz and 64MB RAM
[07:33] <moonpatrol> heh
[07:34] <taotime> skippy81: yeah i tried and read all the documentation
[07:34] <kakalto_> Icky: sadly there's no supported direct old version --> dapper paths; you have to go through each release first
[07:34] <Icky> apokryphos, i got like 30 gigs of data
[07:34] <Icky> and no backup
[07:34] <Icky> options
[07:34] <skippy81> ok taotime im looking into it for you now - i wont be long
[07:34] <witless> i need to buy a better motherboard - mine locks up when there's a lot of concurrent I/O (video, sound, network).  any suggestions on how to pick a quality motherboard?
[07:34] <kakalto_> Icky: have fun upgrading then :S
[07:34] <cr0wman> no dvd?
[07:34] <steveO> witless: yeah, go Asus.
[07:34] <apokryphos> Icky: if you really have no backup options then you're going to have to upgrade; make sure you follow all instructions exactly though (see the FAQ)
[07:35] <kakalto_> Icky: so long as, if you have problems with the graphics side, you know how to get into IRC from the console :)
[07:35] <slavik> when I get a MINI Cooper, I will paint it in brown/orange colors and turn it into "Ubuntu mobile"
[07:35] <garryfre> hehe
[07:36] <slavik> and do on-site ubuntu support in spare time
[07:36] <iiiears> though LAMP is not an option - hahah
[07:36] <slavik> I was actually thinking of doing it right now ...
[07:36] <slavik> but it would be very limited
[07:37] <garryfre> It is amazing what pretty backgrounds the folks at ubuntu.org can make with shades of brown and orange.
[07:37] <Madeye> any one familiar with backup-manager ? I installed it to backup on demand now it's backing up twice a day and I don't know how to stop it.
[07:37] <garryfre> Serene looking.
[07:39] <Geoffrey2> well, the wlan remains non-operative, and I have pretty much given up hope of changing that
[07:39] <kakalto_> is there a clean way of removing all packages related to the ubuntu derivitive(?) you have installed, just leaving the base?
[07:39] <moonpatrol> how do i list what libraries i have
[07:39] <moonpatrol> or how im supposed to call them?
[07:40] <iiiears> kakalto - remove the ubuntu-desktop  ??
[07:40] <apokryphos> kakalto_: I guess you could use debfoster, in conjugation with ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop metapackages
[07:40] <skippy81> taotime, i think i have the solution
[07:40] <apokryphos> iiiears: not if you installed with apt-get
[07:40] <kakalto_> iiiears: that seems to just remove the metapackage
[07:40] <apokryphos> or synaptic
[07:40] <kakalto_> apokryphos: 'debfoster', huh
[07:41] <kakalto_> apokryphos: anything special I need to know about it? or just download and install?
[07:41] <garryfre> This genie gives a guy a wish and he asks for a road from california to Hawaii so he can drive there because he gets seasick and air sick. The genie says that's too hard, so the guy asks the genie to fix his windows machine. The genie says "About that road. You want it 2, 4, or 8 lanes?"
[07:41] <apokryphos> kakalto: sudo apt-get install debfoster && debfoster --help
[07:41] <skippy81> taotime: basically grub allows you to add "boot from cd" onto its menu - thereby allowing a CD-boot without bios support
[07:41] <kakalto_> garryfre: amusing, yes. heard before, likely. offtopic? definately.
[07:41] <kakalto_> apokryphos: cheers.
[07:42] <garryfre> nods
[07:42] <skippy81> taotime: fortunately for you slackware linux allready make a disk set up for this purpose http://slackware.at/data/slackware-current/rootdisks/sbootmgr.dsk, just download the image and write it to a floppy
[07:42] <apokryphos> kakalto_: or you could start removing some X/GTK libs which will hack it down almost completely 8)
[07:42] <kakalto_> garryfre: there is a #ubuntu-offtopic place, ya know :)
[07:42] <apokryphos> debfoster should be a viable solution though
[07:42] <skippy81> then boot from that floppy taotime, and select "boot from CD"
[07:42] <kakalto_> apokryphos: if I were to remove something like, say, xorg-common, you think that'd do the trick?
[07:42] <garryfre> hehe, Yeah, I should go visit.
[07:43] <Geoffrey2> oh, anyone know how to set the home page in Firefox?
[07:44] <kakalto_> Geoffrey2: in the options
[07:44] <skippy81> Geoffrey2:  Edit > Preferences
[07:44] <apokryphos> kakalto_: dont' remember the X packaging in Ubuntu exactly, but I'd just sudo apt-get remove xorg* libgtk*
[07:44] <iiiears> EDIT .. PREFERENCES >> change the URL listed
[07:44] <kakalto_> apokryphos: will try. -s option first =)
[07:44] <Geoffrey2> ah, there it is...thanks...
[07:45] <skippy81> np
[07:45] <garryfre> Some server versions of linux can be installed without a gui.
[07:45] <apokryphos> kakalto_: it will show you alist of packs it'll remove first anyhow
[07:45] <taotime> skippy81: hey i m checking that slackware website right now.. cool. got to give it to you guys.... thanxs a bunch.
[07:45] <taotime> skippy81:  late then , goodbye.
[07:45] <skippy81> taotime, one thing
[07:45] <taotime> skippy81:  yeah?
[07:46] <kakalto_> apokryphos: it shows up with some weird dependency stuff... is there an option for apt-get remove to remove everything that depends on the package? or should that be done automatically?
[07:46] <apokryphos> kakalto_: it should be automatic
[07:46] <skippy81> taotime:  you have to burn that floppy image as an image - use rawwritewin program in windows or use dd in linux, copying on the file wont work - has to be an image
[07:46] <babo> so now easy ubuntu gives me a runtime error: can't open display when I try to run the python script ...
[07:46] <apokryphos> kakalto_: what does it say exactly? Paste?
[07:47] <kakalto_> apokryphos: ah... it was about abiword, how it wouldn't be updated. then the simulation went on to show the upgarde to dapper.
[07:47] <garryfre> Yeah, python is expecting to run via the gui
[07:47] <taotime> skippy81: i m used to using dd to write raw image of files.
[07:47] <thoreauputic> hmm vmplayer appears to work :)
[07:47] <garryfre> I had that problem yesterday.
[07:47] <kakalto_> apokryphos: perhaps I should switch my sources.lst back to breezy, then do it?
[07:47] <skippy81> taotime:  excellent - your all set then
[07:47] <babo> garryfre: via nautilius ?
[07:47] <taotime> skippy81:  cool. .. i knew i could get this old computer running.
[07:47] <skippy81> good luck :)
[07:47] <apokryphos> kakalto_: are you on dapper?
[07:47] <babo> garryfre: I set DISPLAY=:0
[07:47] <kakalto_> apokryphos: no, I'm wanting to remove all graphical stuff before the upgrade
[07:47] <apokryphos> kakalto_: yes, you should only have breezy sources.list
[07:48] <garryfre> babo was something else.
[07:48] <guestie> anybody know why nothing i download in synaptic manager works?
[07:48] <babo> garryfre: that's really strange then. Since the instructions on the easyubuntu site use the cmd line ...
[07:48] <kakalto_> apokryphos: I'm also trying to do some funky stuff from a cd iso image of dapper alternative, for upgrading, as I don't have any 700mb cds lying around, and don't want to spend a few hours downloading all the upgrades
[07:48] <apokryphos> guestie: you're going to have to be a bit more descriptive than "doesn't work"
[07:48] <taotime> skippy81:  i m trying to see how many old computers i can save without having to put command line slackware on em.. you see i m used to doing command line but my windows friend are used to the graphic thingy.. so i have to use damn small linux and xubuntu to get them to like linux too.. have fun.. once again, thanxs a lot.
[07:49] <babo> garryfre: what do you mean something else ?
[07:49] <skippy81> taotime:  np mate :) have fun
[07:49] <apokryphos> kakalto_: if you have a decent enough connection it really won't be much at all for a dist-upgrade
[07:49] <guestie> apok, i downloaded a couple of firefox extensions--still can't see the things theyre supposed to let me (Flash, java, etc) and now i downloaded "menu" (the debian menu) and even after a restart i dont see that manu
[07:49] <guestie> *menu
[07:49] <garryfre> bago did you try this link? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[07:49] <guestie> i just started on ubuntu today btw
[07:50] <skippy81> welcome then guestie :)
[07:50] <garryfre> babo did you try this link? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[07:50] <garryfre> Sorry Babo, my keyboard hates me.
[07:50] <guestie> thanks skip... installation was pretty smooth once i figured out the partitions but now I can't see youtube!
[07:50] <iiiears> guestie - What apps are you trying? Have you changed / enabled  new repositories? Did you ask synaptic to install only sourcer files and not install build-essential ?
[07:50] <apokryphos> guestie: don't know about firefox I'm afraid, sorry. Flash and java should work out of the box if you installed the correct packages. Are you sure that you did?
[07:50] <guestie> i have enbled new repositories
[07:50] <kakalto_> apokryphos: well, I don't consider my connection "decent enough", but I do happen to have the dapper alternative iso, due to bittorrent :)
[07:51] <apokryphos> guestie: for java and flash you only need multiverse
[07:51] <apokryphos> kakalto_: what connection is it?
[07:51] <skippy81> guestie - apokryphos is right, youtube uses flash
[07:51] <guestie> i think i enabled universe and multiverse according to directions online
[07:51] <AJ_Riddle> Hey
[07:51] <kakalto_> apokryphos: 256k download
[07:51] <garryfre> Last I tried, there are some flast stuff that don't run in firefox or any other linux brouser, but I'd be surprised if it isn't fixed by now.
[07:51] <babo> garryfre: ok, I'll try it now. But ubuntu installs perfectly without having to mess around with the nvidia drivers. I got x up and used easyubuntu fine last time ...
[07:51] <skippy81> guestie:  are you using 32 bit dapper?
[07:51] <guestie> yep
[07:51] <AJ_Riddle> Can anyone tell me how to set up an FTP server
[07:51] <skippy81> guestie:  if you are follow the bottom of ubotus guide below
[07:51] <zoggynog> Alrighty, so Im trying to setup LVM under Ubuntu Dapper Desktop Edition.  Really new to Linux and Ubuntu...hoping someone can help me step through partioning with LVM.  I'm wanting to use LVM so I can merge my two 40 gig drives into a large single root volume (after setting up a 2gig swap and a 50mb boot).  If anyone is willing to help, shoot me a private message perhaps?  Thanks folks!
[07:51] <kakalto_> apokryphos: and it's 5:49pm... and I don't sleep with the computer on
[07:52] <apokryphos> kakalto_: not that bad, would definitely be done overnight I'd say. You could play with the ISO but..... good luck 8)
[07:52] <skippy81> !restricted
[07:52] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:52] <skippy81> !flash
[07:52] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:52] <apokryphos> all in the FAQ
[07:52] <garryfre> babo oh ok, well if X is working than great. No need to follow the link, but might be useful later.
[07:52] <guestie> k, but that doesnt solve why the debian menu doesnt appear after i got it
[07:52] <AJ_Riddle> Anyone tell me how to set up an FTP server...
[07:53] <guestie> you mentioned something before that might be off wiht synaptic, how can i check that
[07:53] <skippy81> guestie:  debian menu is disabled by default in dapper
[07:53] <skippy81> so as not to confuse people with tons of software i guess
[07:53] <apokryphos> AJ_Riddle: /msg ubotu pureftp ; /msg ubotu ftpd
[07:54] <guestie> well how bout this... whats something i can download in synaptic and easily check to see if that is working properly
[07:54] <AJ_Riddle> ?
[07:54] <guestie> because so far nothing ive tried has worked
[07:54] <kakalto_> I'm really nasty.
[07:54] <kakalto_> :D
[07:54] <kakalto_> removing 156 packages....
[07:54] <apokryphos> AJ_Riddle: type one of the above, in here
[07:55] <skippy81> hey guys does anyone know how you get a framebuffer image running across the console like the gentoo install CD has
[07:55] <garryfre> Yeah, like the time I put dropline gnome in slackware just because the page said it was for slackware, it had deb dependances and installed about 250 files, talk about confusion.
[07:55] <skippy81> garryfre:  what is dropline gnome please?
[07:55] <zoggynog> could someone point me to a guide or post on setting up LVM?
[07:55] <skippy81> is it a "light" version?
[07:55] <skippy81> !LVM
[07:55] <ubotu> I guess lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[07:56] <zoggynog> thanks folks
[07:56] <skippy81> dont thank me, thank the bot :)
[07:56] <zoggynog> =)
[07:56] <garryfre> skippy81 Its a pretty heavy version actually. Its rather neat tho, it still works, sort of on Slack but is best for deb based linuxes.
[07:56] <nadia007> hello...  wondering if anyone here has had much luck with dell docking stations and ubuntu?
[07:56] <zoggynog> !LVM
[07:56] <ubotu> hmm... lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[07:57] <skippy81> ok thx garryfre
[07:57] <guestie> i think the ubotu tutorial on universe/multiverse is slightly out of date too, theres no "sections" part on my machine, there is a "components" tho
[07:57] <garryfre> skippy81 np. ")
[07:57] <apokryphos> guestie: which factoid specifically?
[07:58] <skippy81> guestie:  yeah i think that guide should just have an example sources list to cut and paste - doing it the gui way is actually quite a pain
[07:58] <zoggynog> ok, I've seen that guide before...so I have to ask...can LVM be setup via gui partioner from the desktop edition live cd...or would I be going command line to get it going?
[07:58] <skippy81> zoggynog:  i briefly looked into LVM and ran away crying, it actually seems pretty complicated
[07:58] <guestie> it says to enable multiverse change "sections" from "universe" to "univere multiverse" but on some of the  community maintained repositories its only radio buttons and on the rest it said "components" instead of 'sections'
[07:59] <skippy81> zoggynog:  i believe you have to elect to use LVM when you partition your disk - so its not something you can just turn on and off
[07:59] <skippy81> zoggynog: but dont take my word for that
[07:59] <zoggynog> sure, well I'm actually talking to you right now from the live cd....no install
[07:59] <apokryphos> guestie: components is the appropriate term. See /msg ubotu components for information on the different ones
[07:59] <nadia007> anyone try docking stations with ubuntu?
[07:59] <zoggynog> so setting up the partitions is a possiblity for me.
[08:00] <guestie> so where the tutorial references "sections" i should edit the components field
[08:00] <guestie> however what do i do for the ones with radio buttons
[08:00] <pastyhermit> Hey all, I have a friend who is running a PowerBook G4 1.0 Ghz machine, we are doing Java Development together, he is running xubuntu and he really likes it, I was wondering how we might get him a sun version of the J2SE compiled for his PPC that will play nice with xubuntu the gij doesnt do the trick, it just crashes....
[08:00] <skippy81> oh i see zoggynog - well i think once LVM is running you should be able to manipulate the logical volumes as if they were real partitions wiht a gui based program
[08:00] <skippy81> i think thats the whole point of LVM
[08:00] <pastyhermit> LVM - Logical Volume Manager
[08:00] <apokryphos> guestie: hm, I guess you're talking about editing in Synaptic. Where is this, are you following the wiki article on adding repositories?
[08:00] <guestie> apok, yup i am
[08:01] <guestie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:01] <zoggynog> yep, that's what I got from all the reading, I just cant figure out how to setup LVM from the live cd partitioner
[08:01] <skippy81> but i do think that LVM causes issues with booting zoggynog, maybe you have to have a seperate boot partition outside the logical volume area
[08:01] <guestie> i did this before but im not sure if it did it right
[08:01] <ayaz> hello, how to install gnome 2.14
[08:01] <weekang> hi
[08:02] <skippy81> zoggynog: its almost certainly not availiable on the live CD - its considered an advanced 'server' type configuration - i can tell you for a fact that it is an option on the alternative CD though - because i saw it on the partition options
[08:02] <apokryphos> guestie: hm, I really don't know about synaptic I'm afraid (don't have it), but if you want to edit it manually: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change every occurence of "universe" to "universe multiverse"
[08:02] <weekang> how can i go about installing the yv12 codec?
[08:02] <zoggynog> my plan was to set a 50mb boot, a 2gig swap, and use the rest in a LVM...if I could figure out how to setup the lvm
[08:02] <garryfre> You mean on Breezy Ayaz?
[08:02] <jtd> ...
[08:02] <zoggynog> Ahhh that's what folks were talking about
[08:02] <zoggynog> ok...Alt CD
[08:02] <apokryphos> guestie: if you currently have no references to multiverse in your sources.list a sudo sed -i s/universe/universe multiverse/ /etc/apt/sources.list  ......would do it
[08:02] <zoggynog> so now where do I find that heh
[08:02] <skippy81> yeah zoggy 2 CDs "desktop/live" and "alternative/advanced"
[08:02] <guestie> kk thanks apok, im going to look at it
[08:03] <zoggynog> torrent out there for the alt cd I assume?
[08:03] <apokryphos> yes
[08:03] <zoggynog> awesome, thanks folks!
[08:03] <skippy81> zoggynog:  yeah checkout this download page http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[08:03] <skippy81> will help you get the file name you want
[08:03] <Icky> is there a way to install the latest nvidia drivers too?
[08:04] <skippy81> !nvidia
[08:04] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[08:04] <Icky> thanks
[08:04] <apokryphos> Icky: yes, get the driver from nvidia.com and follow the instructions there for installation.
[08:04] <skippy81> Icky, if you search the forums a guy called tseliot wrote a very good guide to installing teh most up to date nvidia drivers - but IMO you should stick with the ones ubuntu keeps in the repsitories
[08:05] <Icky> okay well i am upgrading from warty to hoary and i hope that my video
[08:05] <Icky> doesn't cut out
[08:05] <Mnabil_work> hello guys,  can i apt-get j2se in debian ?
[08:05] <skippy81> hehe Icky you should try dapper
[08:05] <skippy81> Icky:  its really stable
[08:05] <Icky> skippy81, its too many upgrades
[08:05] <apokryphos> Mnabil_work: no guarantee it'll work on debian
[08:05] <Icky> i gotta go to breezy than dapper
[08:06] <Icky> :)
[08:06] <skippy81> hehe Icky yeah true - make sure you backup your system before all this upgrading though - it can go wrong
[08:06] <nf4> after getting xgl installed and trying to install compiz i get to the step where I have to type  gnome-window-decorator &  and  it comes up  with a error "Failed to load shadow images"
[08:06] <nf4> i have searched
[08:06] <Mnabil_work> apokryphos: in debian sid , i can apt-get  j2se , can i do it in ubuntu ?
[08:06] <nf4> and cant get soild info
[08:07] <apokryphos> skippy81: it shouldn't..... a stable -> stable apt-get dist-upgrade is fully supported
[08:07] <garryfre> I agree with Skippy on that. I tried downloading the latest, and it failed because I needed a precompiled interface for the driver and ye can get that from the repositories.
[08:07] <lab2std> bhfghdf
[08:07] <apokryphos> Mnabil_work: yes
[08:07] <apokryphos> Mnabil_work: see the FAQ
[08:07] <Mnabil_work> apokryphos: how, what is the source ?
[08:07] <gambit> is their a program i can run in ubuntu to delete ubuntu?
[08:07] <Mnabil_work> apokryphos: thnx
[08:07] <skippy81> nf4, to me that suggests that you started with "startx" and not with "/etc/init.d/gdm start", have you tried a proper reboot?
[08:07] <docgnome> I just upgraded to Dapper and so far it fine, except for one problem. I don't have gnome as my default session and when I try to use gnome, it starts to boot metacity and then it just sits there. However, I can get into it rather quickly from any other user account where the default session is gnome... any ideas?
[08:07] <garryfre> I possibly was missing some source code, and got a gripe also about compiler differences.
[08:08] <ubuntu> hello, I'm attempting to partition my drive, and wanted to know whats the best filesystem for a partition that'll be shared between ubuntu and Windows???
[08:08] <docgnome> ubuntu: fat32 works well.
[08:08] <apokryphos> ubuntu: your / (root partition) should be ext3, it of course won't work with fat/ntfs.
[08:08] <nf4> i dont think that either of those sound like somethig I did
[08:08] <ubuntu> wont i have a file limit
[08:08] <nf4> i just followed the steps on the wiki
[08:09] <skippy81> nf4, those are just 2 ways of starting x
[08:09] <gambit> is their a program i can run in ubuntu to delete ubuntu?
[08:09] <garryfre> and a pertition size limit
[08:09] <skippy81> if you rebooted then you dont have to worry
[08:09] <ubuntu> the drive will be for media type files, DVDs, divx, mp3, stuff like that
[08:09] <apokryphos> ubuntu: your best bet is doing fat, but you do have that file-size limit, yes.
[08:09] <skippy81> nf4:  another possibilty is that XGL is not running - try "top" in a terminal and see if XGL is at the top of the list
[08:09] <skippy81> or near the top anyway
[08:09] <ubuntu> may i ask whats wrong w/ ntfs??
[08:09] <apokryphos> ubuntu: Ubuntu can't write to it
[08:10] <docgnome> ubuntu: linux in general has problems writing it
[08:10] <kakalto_> apokryphos: I figured how to add a cd iso as an apt source. mount -o loop, and add it to my sources.lst as "file:/path/to/mount/point dapper main restricted"
[08:10] <ubuntu> ouch ok....
[08:10] <apokryphos> too many complications with the journalling. Reverse engineering in that case isn't easy
[08:10] <kakalto_> apokryphos: with "deb" before that
[08:10] <skippy81> ubuntu: fat32 is the best way of sharing data between M$ and linux i think
[08:10] <skippy81> ext2 is also an option
[08:10] <skippy81> but NTFS is best used read only
[08:10] <mo0se> so i got ubuntu running on vmware for windows.
[08:11] <apokryphos> kakalto_: oh, I forgot you had the CD. You can add the cd-rom as a source as it is, no need to mount it. Either way works though
[08:11] <garryfre> There are some experimental linuxes that write it, but it's new. Yep, fat32 is a way to go.
[08:11] <iiiears>  patented disk format. - though ntfsprogs can do it.
[08:11] <mo0se> is there a way to allow ubuntu to read another partition?
[08:11] <apokryphos> mo0se: /topic
[08:11] <iiiears> Don't tell Bill Gates shh.
[08:11] <skippy81> ubuntu, yeah as garryfre says it can be written to, check the how to section of the forums - but you stand to lose all your data
[08:11] <nf4> so even it says when I log in that xgl is a option it might not be installed correctly?
[08:11] <apokryphos> mo0se: see the fAQ
[08:11] <mo0se> i've done it normally.
[08:11] <mo0se> with ubuntu on a dual boot system.
[08:12] <mo0se> but this is funky.
[08:12] <mo0se> because it's running on vmware.
[08:12] <kakalto_> apokryphos: well, that's the thing - I have the iso. but no 700mb discs to write it to
[08:12] <nf4> yeah your right it seems to be flashing xorg
[08:12] <skippy81> nf4, i assume that means you set up XGL to run as a gnome session - select the session and boot into it - once in you need to do "top" in a terminal and confirm XGL is loaded
[08:12] <kakalto_> how do I shut down my 'net connection?
[08:12] <ubuntu> fat32 it is, thanks for the help guys!!
[08:12] <apokryphos> kakalto: ah yes, then that's a decent solution 8)
[08:12] <gambit> is their a program i can run in ubuntu to delete ubuntu?
[08:12] <skippy81> kakalto_ ifconfig eth0 down is one way
[08:13] <chavo> man I'm getting old, I remember when fat32 support was experimental
[08:13] <apokryphos> kakalto: if you have no external links in your sources.list it won't use them, but you can just ifdown eth0
[08:13] <nf4> well i clicked xgl and your right it says xorg
[08:13] <kakalto_> skippy81: cheers :)
[08:13] <kakalto_> apokryphos: ahk thanks
[08:13] <nf4> so this means i need to reinstall xgl?
[08:13] <nf4> or try to
[08:13] <kakalto_> buhbye all!
[08:13] <skippy81> kakalto_ your may have a different name - just type ifconfig to see the options
[08:13] <MTecknology> How can I install Ubuntu with no GUI? My old computer is hving trouble with the display manager.
[08:13] <garryfre> Well, you could delete ubuntu by doing what I did by mistake. tried gzip to back up my system, but didn't know that gzip unlike zip removes the files after packing them.
[08:13] <kakalto_> skippy81: yeah, two computers, both on IRC with the same name
[08:13] <kakalto_> two different rooms >_>
[08:13] <richiefrich> nf4 u can look in ps -a    also
[08:13] <skippy81> nf4, you might not need to install it, check over the file you created to make the session for XGL, maybe you made a typo in it :)
[08:14] <docgnome> I just upgraded to dapper and I am having a problem with GNOME. I can not seem to log into it with my normal user account. The splash screen shows that it is loading metacity and then it does nothing else. If I click on the spash screen it disappears. I can, however, log into GNOME with other user accounts where the default sessions is set to gnome
[08:14] <mo0se> what's the command to see what the partitions are in the terminal?
[08:15] <mo0se> is it mount?
[08:15] <apokryphos> mo0se: sudo fdisk -l
[08:15] <mo0se> O.o
[08:15] <apokryphos> mount is to mount them
[08:15] <mo0se> fdisk?
[08:15] <chavo> docgnome, did you install kde also?
[08:15] <skippy81> richiefrich: i suggest you run through the parts of the guide which involve writing lines to configuration files -make sure you got it all right
[08:15] <garryfre> mount alone will show you wat is already mounted.
[08:15] <mo0se> oh.
[08:15] <mo0se> which one's the one that will let me see the ones that aren't mounted?
[08:15] <mo0se> wow... typo.
[08:15] <mo0se> heh.
[08:15] <apokryphos> mount, yes
[08:15] <skippy81> mo0se:  mount will show you mounted, fdisk and then "p" will show you all your partitions i belive
[08:16] <richiefrich> skippy81 ?
[08:16] <skippy81> mo0se:  or you could use the gnome disk utitility or download qparted
[08:16] <richiefrich> skippy81 u said to check with top... i gave im an alternaitive why to check
[08:17] <nf4> my /etc/X11/xorg.conf dosnt list dri or glcore
[08:17] <mo0se> ah... just as i thought...
[08:17] <nf4> i dont know if it is supossed to as I was suspossed to put a # sign in front of it if it was there but they both wernt
[08:17] <skippy81> richiefrich:  baisclaly if doing "top" from within your XGL named session shows XORG and not XGL then you have failed to get xgl running
[08:17] <mo0se> since i'm using vmware, it doesn't see the other partitions.
[08:17] <mo0se> at all.
[08:18] <mo0se> at least from the disk manager.
[08:18] <skippy81> nf4, "#" symbol is a comment, everything on the same line as it is ignored by the system
[08:18] <pastyhermit> Hey all, I have a friend who is running a PowerBook G4 1.0 Ghz machine, we are doing Java Development together, he is running xubuntu and he really likes it, I was wondering how we might get him a sun version of the J2SE compiled for his PPC that will play nice with xubuntu the gij doesnt do the trick, it just crashes....
[08:18] <witless> how do i prevent modules from loading?
[08:18] <richiefrich> skippy81 u can also check... in --> /var/log/Xorg.99.log too thats the XGL one
[08:18] <richiefrich> err 696 iirc
[08:19] <nf4> so if i put a # in front front of something that will be ignored and not loaded right?
[08:19] <r0xoR> where can i get dapper with torrent?
[08:19] <cyne> hi .. i'm trynig to install ubuntu on my laptop, but it has taken an hour just to load the first install window from dapper .. what's up?
[08:19] <garryfre> Yep
[08:19] <mo0se> r0xoR: the ubuntu webpage?
[08:19] <r0xoR> cyne, ur laptop is borked :)
[08:19] <skippy81> nf4:  yes that is correct
[08:19] <docgnome_> chowells2: sorry, I missed what you said. Stupid thing locked up on me. -_-
[08:19] <nf4> http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+6.06+torrent&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[08:19] <cyne> r0xoR, my external cdrom is slooow but it shouldn't take this long should it?
[08:19] <KenSentMe> Hi there, i have a more general question. How do i set up a channel on freenode?
[08:20] <r0xoR> cyne, maybe... my girlfriends iBook took like 20 minutes to start from the CD
[08:20] <nf4> so if the two things that needed a comment werrent there  I dont need to coment them do i
[08:20] <cef> anyone know what the name of the KDE program is for system preferences (eg: what browser to use)? I'm running a few KDE progs under gnome, so I need to change some preferences to point to the gnome defaults
[08:20] <cyne> r0xoR :(
[08:20] <r0xoR> cyne, how fast is your laptop? what kind is it? who made it? acer? hp?
[08:20] <cyne> r0xoR, 1.13 acer
[08:20] <gambit> is their a program i can run in ubuntu to delete ubuntu?
[08:20] <r0xoR> cyne, all i can say is that it does start fastER from HD
[08:21] <mo0se> i don't think that's how it works, gambit.
[08:21] <r0xoR> cyne, but for real, if it's taken a full hour, i'd say something might be wrong
[08:21] <mitcheloc> hey guys, does anyone know about the asterisk support on the server cd of ubuntu? i heard that it has some issues with it... was curious
[08:21] <mo0se> what i do is just format that partition.
[08:21] <skippy81> nf4:  im not sure i understand - as long as you didnt add any "#" symbols you dont have to worry
[08:21] <cyne> r0xoR, cool i might go do a verification check on the cd
[08:21] <skippy81> cyne:  perhaps you have no dma on both CD and Hard disk
[08:21] <skippy81> is it actually doing stuff cyne ? are the disks ticking?
[08:22] <gambit> mo0se: i try it says its in use
[08:22] <mo0se> what's that thing that makes ubuntu's animations all smooth and 3d and stuff?
[08:22] <skippy81> breezy took nearly 45 minutes to install on my 3200+ amd64 with DMA disabled
[08:22] <mo0se> gambit: you're trying with what?
[08:22] <mo0se> gambit: from a different partition or a cd or something?
[08:22] <iiiears> msttcorefonts have been installed for openoffice. How do i make them available to firefox?
[08:23] <skippy81> mo0se: i think the thing you mean might be xgl-compiz
[08:23] <cyne> skippy81, yes the disks were ticking over
[08:23] <mo0se> that might be it, skippy.
[08:23] <gambit> mo0se: gparted
[08:23] <pastyhermit> Anyone here on an APPLE?
[08:23] <cyne> skippy81, both hd and cd
[08:23] <mo0se> gparted? isn't that for ubuntu?
[08:23] <skippy81> cyne, if its doing stuff i would give it longer
[08:23] <mo0se> !xgl
[08:23] <ubotu> well, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[08:23] <gambit> mo0se: yes
[08:23] <cyne> skippy81, i just reset though... can't take that long to choose a language
[08:24] <mo0se> gambit: that's why it says it's in use. heheheh.
[08:24] <skippy81> cyne:  oh i see lol, it wasnt actually copying the files yet then?
[08:24] <cyne> skippy81, no
[08:24] <mo0se> !xgl-compiz
[08:24] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mo0se
[08:24] <cyne> skippy81, it was on the very first screen, choose a language
[08:24] <gambit> mo0se: hahA, how do u do it
[08:24] <skippy81> cyne:  in that case something is definately wrong :(
[08:24] <cyne> window/screen
[08:24] <Mnabil_work> i unhashed the mutliunverse rep , but i still can't apt-get jdk
[08:24] <cyne> damn :( maybe the oldness of the cdrom can't handle burnt cds
[08:24] <mo0se> gambit: what i do is use partition magic from my windows partition.
[08:24] <ayaz> by anyway, thanks garryfre
[08:25] <palomer> hah
[08:25] <mo0se> what other operating systems do you have on the computer?
[08:25] <palomer> the backup is done
[08:25] <silver> hi
[08:25] <skippy81> hi ho silver :)
[08:25] <mo0se> does xgl work with any video card?
[08:25] <iiiears> !ubotu xgl is <reply> See also !transparency
[08:25] <ubotu> ...but xgl is already something else...
[08:25] <mo0se> because all i have is an intel onboard one. hahaha.
[08:26] <gambit> mo0se: i have no windows and ubuntu wont let me burn a boot disk
[08:26] <skippy81> mo0se:  it will work, but you wont get the fancy compiz effects
[08:26] <mo0se> what's compiz?
[08:26] <garryfre> Sometimes, I found I would have to actually take my pointer off the button and reclick, another time while upgrading from breezy to dapper it was waiting in the terminal for a response from me. If you see a triangle with terminal by it click on it. It might be asking you a question.
[08:26] <richiefrich> mo0se  thats all your cool features
[08:26] <mo0se> gambit: you don't have any type of operating system disk?
[08:26] <skippy81> mo0se: XGL provides the environment, compiz runs within XGL as a replacement window manager (instead of metacity etc)
[08:26] <mo0se> richiefrich: :-(
[08:27] <mo0se> well that sucks...
[08:27] <richiefrich> mo0se  like wobble
[08:27] <mo0se> no idea what wobble is.
[08:27] <mo0se> :P
[08:27] <skippy81> mo0se:  think of it as xorg vs XGL and metacity vs compiz
[08:27] <richiefrich> mo0se i get u a url
[08:27] <gambit> mo0se: no, i thought ubuntu was all id ever need
[08:27] <skippy81> mo0se:  phear the wobble :)
[08:27] <cef> anyone know what the name of the KDE program is for system preferences (eg: what browser to use)? I'm running a few KDE progs under gnome, so I need to change some KDE preferences to point to the gnome defaults
[08:27] <mo0se> hahahah.
[08:28] <mo0se> gambit: well i don't know...
[08:28] <skippy81> mo0se:  it might be worth you using XGL anyway - you should get decent window acceleration - things will look smoother
[08:28] <mo0se> if you deleted ubuntu, what would you do?
[08:28] <skippy81> reinstall it
[08:28] <richiefrich> mo0se  http://gentoo-wiki.com/Compiz   http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL
[08:28] <skippy81> or spend 2 years installing gentoo and then go back to ubuntu :)
[08:28] <apokryphos> cef: kcontrol
[08:28] <mo0se> why doesn't he just reinstall it without formating it from within ubuntu?
[08:28] <mo0se> use the ubuntu cd, gambit.
[08:28] <palomer> ok guys
[08:28] <iiiears> skippy81:  lol
[08:28] <gambit> mo0se: i have a win98 but it wont write over linux
[08:28] <palomer> I want to backup my home directory onto a fat32 drive
[08:28] <apokryphos> cef: or Kubuntu's specific one: alt+f2 -> systemsettings
[08:29] <palomer> which is too small
[08:29] <mo0se> gambit: what are you going to do after you delete ubuntu?
[08:29] <skippy81> talking of gentoo can someone please tell me how they get the 'wallpaper' type effect in their text console on the installation CD please
[08:29] <garryfre> Preferred applications if I recall, its much like gnome's. It might be called favorite applications.
[08:29] <cef> apokryphos: I'm in gnome. *grin* but cool.. now to figure out what package kcontrol is in, but that part is easy
[08:29] <skippy81> i know its a framebuffer thing, but i want to find the program used
[08:29] <apokryphos> cef: you will almost definitely have one of those installed
[08:29] <iiiears> skippy81:  "profiles"
[08:29] <apokryphos> cef: you wouldn't have kde applications without them, most likely.
[08:29] <gambit> mo0se: Load win98, download suse10 burn iso
[08:30] <iiiears> skippy it is one of the edit preferences i think
[08:30] <skippy81> thx iiiears i will look into it :)
[08:30] <mo0se> gambit: well i guess you can find another computer or figure out why ubuntu won't let you burn a cd and fix it.
[08:30] <skippy81> im going to try and force myself away from gnome and get to know the shell better
[08:30] <skippy81> but i want it to look pretty :)
[08:30] <cef> apokryphos: kmail and quanta.. and neither kcontrol or kdebase-data was installed
[08:31] <garryfre> Just use the live disk, get into a command prompt and use fdisk or cfdisk to remove the ubuntu partitions if you want to do that.
[08:31] <distanceisdeath> who has a really cool theme they want to give me?
[08:31] <apokryphos> cef: do you have kde-systemsettings?
[08:31] <gambit> mo0se: been watching forums for a week, no resolve just more complaints
[08:32] <mo0se> gambit: well... i suppose you can find someone else with a computer, download suse, and burn it.
[08:32] <cef> apokryphos: will check in a second
[08:32] <gambit> mo0se: Good idea
[08:32] <mo0se> :-P
[08:32] <iiiears> distanceisdeath:  - I have two really nice themes i found on gnome-look.org (best site for finding them) one is brushed steel ala OS X and the other is black and gold with blue highlighting of selected items.
[08:33] <cyne> dudes is there any way to go to an installer straight from the ubuntu boot menu instead of booting to the live part?
[08:33] <cef> apokryphos: nope..
[08:33] <apokryphos> cef: install then
[08:33] <richiefrich> mo0se u want a liveCD with XGL ?   http://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-181203
[08:33] <cef> apokryphos: will do.. thanks..
[08:33] <Internat> very stupid question. Which is the testing distrubution of ubuntu code name? ie what should i change breezy to in my sources file
[08:33] <mo0se> no. i wanna install it on the one i got.
[08:33] <mo0se> hehehe.
[08:33] <cyne> Intacto, dapper?
[08:33] <cyne> Internat, dapper?
[08:34] <apokryphos> Internat: see the FAQ for upgrading
[08:34] <cef> apokryphos: used tyo just have kmail, and clicking on links would spawn firefox.. installed quanta, and now clicking on links in kde starts quanta.. doh!
[08:34] <richiefrich> mo0se ahh well that works and it a nice demo
[08:34] <Flannel> !tell Internat about upgrade
[08:34] <mo0se> i'm still kind of confused.
[08:34] <skippy81> Internat:  Dapper is no longer a testing version - it is now THE version :) went live 1st June
[08:34] <apokryphos> cef: yes, you'll just have to change the default web program
[08:34] <iiiears> msttcorefonts have been installed for openoffice. How do i make them available to firefox?
[08:34] <richiefrich> mo0se on?
[08:34] <garryfre> This commans is for buring an iso under ubuntu ... cdrecord /scratch/myaccountname.iso
[08:34] <mo0se> i dunno... what's the difference between compiz and xgl?
[08:35] <distanceisdeath> what is edubuntu?
[08:35] <cef> apokryphos: yeah I knwo.. used KDE before.. just couldn't remember what I needed to install/run
[08:35] <mo0se> is compiz the thing that makes everything all pretty?
[08:35] <mo0se> or xgl?
[08:35] <apokryphos> mo0se: see the FAQ
[08:35] <mo0se> mmkay.
[08:35] <richiefrich> mo0se compiz is the wm for xgl
[08:35] <mo0se> what's a wm?
[08:35] <Flannel> mo0se: window manager
[08:35] <richiefrich> window manager
[08:35] <mo0se> ohh...
[08:35] <garryfre> edbuntu is a version with stuff that is useful for students in school.
[08:35] <apokryphos> mo0se: Xgl is the architecture layered on top of Xgl. Makes the effects possible. Compiz, as others have mentioned, is the WM.
[08:36] <apokryphos> yes
[08:36] <mo0se> ohhh...
[08:36] <mo0se> i get it now.
[08:36] <mo0se> and what is it on ubuntu right now?
[08:36] <apokryphos> *on top of OpenGL
[08:36] <apokryphos> mo0se: what do you mean?
[08:36] <mo0se> isn't it like xorg and metacity?
[08:36] <iiiears> moose - xorg / gnome or kdr if you are using kubuntu
[08:36] <mo0se> xorg is the architecture and metacity is the wm, right?
[08:36] <apokryphos> mo0se: Xorg, with GNOME DE which uses metacity as the WM by default
[08:36] <babo> I can't connect to my nessus localhost after installing nessus. netstat -tulp indicates that nessus isn't running. But it seems have installed fine ...
[08:37] <iiiears> *KDE
[08:37] <mo0se> okay. gotcha.
[08:37] <apokryphos> mo0se: Xgl runs on top of Xorg
[08:37] <richiefrich> mo0se it only works in a couple of things GNOME KDE or Xfce
[08:37] <keithg> Hello everyone.  I recently downloaded Dapper, burned it to a blank cd.  (The alternate one)  I attempted to install it, but during the formatting stage it freezes up, and doesn't go any farther.  I have attempted this a few times, and I keep getting the same results, now even with my 5.10 install cd it does this.  Any advice?
[08:37] <mo0se> oh.
[08:37] <garryfre> xorg is a base system used by those windows managers.
[08:37] <mo0se> @_@
[08:38] <iiiears> apokryphos:  Ah, - You can't stay uninformed for long if you spend any time here. - lol - Thank You apokryphos. :)
[08:38] <garryfre> Check the disk for errors.
[08:38] <cef> apokryphos: brilliant! all fixed. thank you for your help.
[08:38] <aftertaf> keithg, try a different cdrom drive. try removing memory sticks..... something hardware not happy.
[08:39] <Internat> oh.. if dapper is the new veriosn then im in trouble, i just eralised im still running hoary
[08:39] <richiefrich> mo0se as of know thats all it works in...
[08:39] <garryfre> I'm guessing that you are using the alternate because of the page that says use alternate to upgrade? Might be simpler to backup data and use the normal iso
[08:39] <mo0se> i checked the compatibility list for xgl and my graphics controller is on there.
[08:39] <Flannel> Internat: heh, you missed a year or so of new versions ;)
[08:39] <mo0se> 945g.
[08:39] <Internat> yeah i only installed it the other day from an old cd i have
[08:39] <apokryphos> mo0se: Intel?
[08:39] <Internat> so ill upgrade to breezy first, then upgrade to dapper
[08:39] <mo0se> yeah.
[08:40] <apokryphos> I think I got it running on that card on a PC. Still, it's not quite perfected with Intel cards. Couldn't really watch videos at the same time etc
[08:40] <apokryphos> Internat: correct; all in the FAQ
[08:40] <mo0se> richiefrich: does that mean i can get all the nice compiz effects?
[08:40] <apokryphos> yes
[08:40] <keithg> aftertaf:  I tried a different cd rom drive, and these memory sticks worked in my previous install.
[08:40] <apokryphos> mo0se: /msg ubotu xgl .....for more information
[08:41] <richiefrich> mo0se  all depends on your video card
[08:41] <iiiears> keithg:  hm.. easier to check is the md5sum to see if the CD/DVD was transferred or copied correctly. - filealyzer (windows) or md5sum /path/to/file.iso would be something i might check first./
[08:42] <mo0se> i guess i'll install it and just see wha thappens.
[08:42] <mo0se> i install xgl first, right?
[08:42] <apokryphos> mo0se: FAQ :)
[08:42] <mo0se> lol. sorry sorry.
[08:42] <keithg> iiiears:  Well, I'm in a live cd now, and grub hasn't been working correctly off the floppy ever since this.   So I can't boot into hoary on hdb.
[08:42] <aftertaf> everyone panic and run for xgl since yersterday? whats going on? :] 
[08:42] <keithg> iiiears:  That is where I have the .iso
[08:42] <mo0se> i guess so.
[08:42] <mo0se> i think it looks neato.
[08:42] <mo0se> :-P
[08:42] <BrianG> can someone update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto so it uses refrences to Dapper and not.. Warty?
[08:43] <apokryphos> BrianG: feel free :)
[08:43] <aftertaf> its a wiki:)
[08:43] <BrianG> apokryphos: well if i knew the information i would
[08:43] <farous> BrianG: from what i read you need to take it all the steps up. update to hoaray then breezy and finally dapper. do not know if you can do it in one shot or not
[08:43] <garryfre> If your drive has smartdrive tech, you might check it to see if it's ok and not failing. Every time I've noted a drastic slowdown in a hard drive, it was a smartdrive. I don't know if the slowdown was it trying to keep itself from failing or trying to read bad sectors over and over.
[08:44] <BrianG> farous: what?
[08:44] <richiefrich> BrianG  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:44] <richiefrich> BrianG go there and get them
[08:44] <apokryphos> for a default sources.list /msg ubotu sources.list
[08:44] <BrianG> the page is still completley outdated and wrong and needs to be changes
[08:44] <BrianG> i'll check those links, thanks
[08:45] <farous> BrianG: it was on ubuntu site. that you need to update sequentially through releases. do not know if that changed in dapper but that was the case in breezy
[08:45] <richiefrich> BrianG what page?  the one  i gave u?
[08:45] <garryfre> I read there is some manual changing of references from one distro name to another along the way when upgrading from Hoary to Dapper.
[08:45] <BrianG> no, the one i said needs to be updated
[08:45] <richiefrich> ok
[08:45] <BrianG> farous: i don't beleive we're discussing the same things
[08:46] <farous> BrianG: ok sorry then. won;t discuss it anymore
[08:46] <BrianG> richiefrich: i don't thinkt hat's going to  help me, thanks
[08:47] <richiefrich> BrianG why that has dapper
[08:47] <BrianG> richiefrich: did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto ??
[08:48] <richiefrich> BrianG no.. but im sorry what did u need again what repos ?
[08:48] <garryfre> Outdated web sites are immortal.
[08:48] <BrianG> read the site
[08:48] <BrianG> heh
[08:48] <BrianG> its just old and wrong
[08:48] <richiefrich> i must ask is --> goobuntu  <-- a rummer ?
[08:48] <richiefrich> BrianG ok what did u need ?
[08:48] <apokryphos> Kubuntu instructions are still valid :P
[08:48] <foxiness> hi ,after i do dist-upgrade ,i remember am forget to install ubuntu-desktop? now what can i do to fix this?
[08:49] <BrianG> richiefrich: that site updated :)
[08:49] <apokryphos> foxiness: encounter a lot of problems ;-)
[08:49] <richiefrich> BrianG just to say the site is wrong ?
[08:49] <foxiness> there are more then 200 package can not upgrade!
[08:49] <foxiness> apokryphos, plz do not say that
[08:49] <richiefrich> BrianG then like apokryphos and aftertaf  said update it :)
[08:50] <foxiness> apokryphos, :(
[08:50] <BrianG> richiefrich: if i had the information to update it, i would!
[08:50] <garryfre> I remember, a post by Linus who said he could not understand why folks were slavisly making links to /usr/src/linuxXXXX.XXX when the funny thing is, it tells you to do so in every readme that comes with the linux kernels and Linus wrote the readme. LoL
[08:50] <BrianG> i don't know the information, hence the request
[08:50] <apokryphos> I think someone in #ubuntu-doc might be on it anyhow
[08:50] <richiefrich> BrianG what request ?
[08:50] <BrianG> TO UPDATE THE PAGE
[08:50] <BrianG> omg
[08:50] <richiefrich> BrianG dapper repos ?
[08:50] <richiefrich> BrianG dapper repos ?
[08:50] <BrianG> forget it
[08:51] <apokryphos> BrianG: someone will be working on it, thank you for the comment.
[08:51] <canid> hey
[08:51] <richiefrich> man u need repos get them for other places then update it
[08:52] <aftertaf> BrianG, to update from warty to dapper, you open sources.list (in /etc/apt) and change every instance of warty to dapper
[08:52] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, pardon? That didn't make sense...
[08:52] <BrianG> aftertaf: i already have dapper
[08:52] <BrianG> aftertaf: like i said, you're discussing something else ;)
[08:53] <aftertaf> BrianG, you wanted to know how to log on to the wiki? is that i?
[08:53] <BrianG> i don't have the warty refrences
[08:53] <richiefrich> Fujitsu wasnt for u :)
[08:53] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, I know, but it still didn't make sense.
[08:53] <Fujitsu> aftertaf, no!
[08:53] <BrianG> holy jesus
[08:53] <bimberi> BrianG: i feel your pain :)
[08:53] <skippy81> hey guys: i want to be able to seach my filesystem for files from the console "ls -l | grep filename" would be perfect, but the ls doesnt show the paths of the files, is there a switch im missing?
[08:53] <Fujitsu> aftertaf, you need to do Warty->Hoary->Breezy->Dapper!
[08:54] <Fujitsu> skippy81, try using find.
[08:54] <garryfre> ls -l
[08:54] <intelikey> ls -lAh
[08:54] <Internat> another stupid question.. is there local mirros of the security.ubuntu.com archive or is that the onlty one, due to security reasons>
[08:54] <aftertaf> Fujitsu, really?  I'd rather do Warty -> New CD | Format -> Dapper
[08:54] <bimberi> Internat: the latter
[08:54] <skippy81> thx guys both of those are great
[08:55] <Fujitsu> aftertaf, really.
[08:55] <aftertaf> BrianG, hehe, yeah i understand your point now (forget it ;)   )
[08:55] <intelikey> here's  a misleading error    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15178
[08:55] <ecen> hello... i want to update to dapper but i had to compile the nic driver to work on breezy. will i have to recompile the driver after upgrading to dapper?
[08:55] <Internat> bugger, i get bad speeds to the security.ubuntu
[08:55] <Fujitsu> ecen, maybe. What driver?
[08:56] <richiefrich> Fujitsu  BrianG said that one site is wrong and it should be changed and he cant do it  he doesnt have the info.. so then i said get the repos and fix it.. but i guess thats not what this is all about even thought the site is called --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:56] <Fujitsu> `One site is wrong'?
[08:56] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, that paragraph is painful to read.
[08:56] <richiefrich> Fujitsu i guess
[08:56] <ecen> Fujitsu: the driver is sundance
[08:57] <richiefrich> Fujitsu  u wanted me to explain so i tried :)
[08:57] <garryfre> Hey better than the days when it wasn't just one site that was wrong, but when only one site, or document was correct.
[08:57] <Fujitsu> ecen, you will probably have to recompile.
[08:57] <freaks> is there's a problem with apache 2.0 and .htaccess script on ubuntu ?
[08:58] <Fujitsu> freaks, I don't know. Is there?
[08:58] <ecen> Fujitsu: um, i dont even recall how to do it, it was months ago ;(
[08:58] <apokryphos> freaks: no very descriptive
[08:58] <garryfre> make or make install, probably not hard to remember.
[08:58] <freaks> i installed apache from apt-get, and now i'm trying to create a password restricted protection, but it is simply ignored by apache ??!
[08:58] <ecen> ... and it was a painful experience since i dont use linux a lot
[08:59] <freaks> here's the file i've creatred:  (btw apache is using default config)
[08:59] <freaks> AuthType Basic
[08:59] <freaks> AuthName "Solution Scripts Members Only"
[08:59] <freaks> AuthUserFile /var/www/protected/.htpasswd
[08:59] <freaks> require valid-user
[08:59] <Fujitsu> freaks, have you actually enabled .htaccess in the config?
[09:00] <ecen> garryfre: it was no that easy. i recall i had to get the headers or something like that, then i had to change some lines on the scripts, then make
[09:00] <freaks> Fujitsu, how can i do this ? i checked for ".htaccess" in the the apache.conf, but couldn't find anything relevant ?
[09:00] <freaks> where is it ?
[09:00] <Fujitsu> It's the AllowOverride directive.
[09:00] <Fujitsu> The default is this:
[09:00] <Fujitsu>                 AllowOverride None
[09:00] <Fujitsu> There's your problem.
[09:00] <freaks> Fujitsu, could you be a bit more precise pleqse?
[09:00] <freaks> *please
[09:00] <Fujitsu> freaks, in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[09:00] <Fujitsu> In the /var/www section.
[09:00] <garryfre> ecen Ouch. Well, hopefully it won't be as hard the second time around. Good luck with it.
[09:01] <richiefrich> # AllowOverride controls what directives may be placed in .htaccess files.
[09:01] <richiefrich> AccessFileName .htaccess
[09:01] <richiefrich> freaks   ^^^^
[09:01] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, that's not applicable here.
[09:01] <richiefrich> why ?
[09:01] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, that's related, but not what we want.
[09:01] <freaks> Fujitsu, here it's /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[09:01] <Fujitsu> freaks, you sure?
[09:01] <richiefrich> ooh
[09:01] <freaks> yes
[09:01] <Fujitsu> freaks, what version of Ubuntu are you running!?
[09:01] <freaks> dapper
[09:01] <freaks> the last RC though
[09:02] <Fujitsu> freaks, there are some references in there, but they're not the right ones.
[09:02] <richiefrich> freaks can u pastebin your apache2.conf
[09:02] <freaks> richiefrich, sure
[09:02] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, that's not going to be useful.
[09:02] <richiefrich> Fujitsu why not
[09:02] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, new versions of Apache2 store their configs in various seperate files.
[09:02] <freaks> Fujitsu, where should i look for then ?
[09:03] <Fujitsu> freaks, in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[09:03] <BrianG> where do i get libquicktime1 ?
[09:03] <richiefrich> Fujitsu  yeah like two files
[09:03] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, a little more.
[09:03] <mo0se> is there such a command as emerge?
[09:03] <richiefrich> thats the main one
[09:03] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, apache2.conf doesn't tell you anything.
[09:03] <richiefrich> mo0se yes for gentoo
[09:03] <Fujitsu> mo0se, apt-get performs a similar function.
[09:03] <Fujitsu> mo0se, Gentoo uses emerge, not Ubuntu.
[09:03] <mo0se> oh...
[09:04] <maikol-tmp> richiefrich, Fujitsu is right. changes must be made in the default file
[09:04] <mo0se> well for the tutorial on xgl is says emerge.
[09:04] <oz__> need help using enlightenment
[09:04] <bimberi> !info libquicktime1
[09:04] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, please don't argue.
[09:04] <mo0se> i was just wondering.
[09:04] <ubotu> libquicktime1: (A library for reading and writing Quicktime files), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 261 kB, Installed size: 820 kB
[09:04] <Fujitsu> mo0se, that's for Gentoo.
[09:04] <freaks> http://pastebin.com/761854
[09:04] <freaks> here is it
[09:04] <richiefrich> mo0se or Gentoo/FreeBSD
[09:04] <richiefrich> Fujitsu im not!1
[09:04] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, you were.
[09:04] <garryfre> Yep, don't wanna mix gentoo stuff in ubuntu.
[09:04] <freaks> Fujitsu, i look for /etc/apache2/sites-available/default  now
[09:04] <richiefrich> noman u were
[09:04] <oz__> anyone wanna help me?
[09:04] <Fujitsu> Err, richiefrich, I was right.
[09:05] <Fujitsu> oz__, just ask.
[09:05] <richiefrich> there u go again!
[09:05] <aftertaf> oz__, whats the pb?
[09:05] <BrianG> bimberi: but where do i get it?
[09:05] <oz__> just tried enlightenment for 1st time
[09:05] <bimberi> BrianG: sec...
[09:05] <oz__> no icons
[09:05] <aftertaf> oz__, which version? from where?
[09:05] <bimberi> !info libquicktime1 dapper
[09:05] <Fujitsu> !info libquicktime1 dapper
[09:05] <oz__> i like it, but want to add a few icons
[09:05] <Fujitsu> Ops.
[09:05] <Fujitsu> You already said that...
[09:05] <intelikey> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:05] <intelikey>   abiword-common: Depends: abiword but it is not going to be installed or
[09:05] <bimberi> BrianG: hm, not in dapper though
[09:06] <Fujitsu> Err, where'd it go, bimberi?
[09:06] <Fujitsu> It's gone.
[09:06] <Fujitsu> How odd.
[09:06] <intelikey> i just installed abiword and still get that
[09:06] <oz__> version....um
[09:06] <Fujitsu> libquicktime0
[09:06] <freaks> Fujitsu,  http://pastebin.com/761859
[09:06] <intelikey> there is another bug to add the the long list
[09:06] <Fujitsu> libquicktime-dev
[09:06] <Fujitsu> freaks, line 12.
[09:06] <freaks> Fujitsu, could you tell me if my config file looks correct to you, and what should i change to enable .htaccess use ?
[09:06] <aftertaf> oz__, e17? e16?
[09:07] <oz__> probly 16
[09:07] <BrianG> i'm feeling very blah about dapper and its support :/
[09:07] <Fujitsu> freaks, change it to AllowOverride All
[09:07] <aftertaf> with apt?
[09:07] <painkiler> hey guys
[09:07] <Fujitsu> What in particular, BrianG?
[09:07] <Fujitsu> Hi, painkiler.
[09:07] <bimberi> BrianG: yes, libquicktime1 doesn't seem to be there
[09:07] <painkiler> need a little help installing ubuntu... on a pII
[09:07] <Fujitsu> bimberi, libquicktime0 is around.
[09:07] <Fujitsu> painkiler, your best bet is to use Xubuntu.
[09:07] <intelikey> After unpacking 315MB disk space will be freed.
[09:07] <BrianG> Fujitsu: i just don't feel like ther documentation and stuff is on.. i remember when i had 504 there was tons of information and teps to get things working
[09:08] <painkiler> i get a buffer I/O error on device hdc...
[09:08] <BrianG> maybe it's still too early
[09:08] <freaks> Fujitsu, thanks i try
[09:08] <bimberi> BrianG: yes, libquicktime0 perhaps (thanks Fujitsu)
[09:08] <BrianG> i have 0, i'm looking for 1
[09:08] <Fujitsu> BrianG, there's a lot less manual stuff required in Dapper, so less docs are necessary, I guess.
[09:08] <BrianG> i have no sound from .mov files
[09:08] <painkiler> its just cycling through the bad sectors.. Would any one know what is the problem?
[09:08] <BrianG> i don't get mov files playing in firefox
[09:08] <Fujitsu> BrianG, I have no idea where libquicktime1 went...
[09:09] <freaks> Fujitsu, hehe great it's working ..thanks a lot for your help :)
[09:09] <aftertaf> BrianG, i have it installed.......
[09:09] <Fujitsu> No problem, freaks.
[09:09] <BrianG> i guess it dosen't matter, i bet it won't even fix whats wrong once i get it anyhow
[09:09] <oz__> aftertaf   ....how do i find out for sure which version?
[09:09] <aftertaf> BrianG, sudo apt-get install libquicktime1 --reinstall, gives me this: Reinstallation of libquicktime1 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[09:09] <disinterested_pe> i cant get kaffine to work
[09:10] <icky> i should get the ubuntu-desktop and what else?
[09:10] <aftertaf> oz__, i dunno cos i dont use e16, its outdated now....
[09:10] <Fujitsu> libquicktime0 seems to replace libquicktime1
[09:10] <apokryphos> icky: for an upgrade? That's it.
[09:10] <icky> oh just the ubuntu-desktop
[09:10] <oz__> which one do u use?
[09:10] <aftertaf> oz__, run enlightenment --version in a console maybe
[09:10] <aftertaf> e17 :] 
[09:10] <Fujitsu> libquicktime0 explicitly replaces libquicktime1! Thus, there's no need for libquicktime1
[09:10] <aftertaf> with an autobuild script.....
[09:11] <oz__> 16.6
[09:11] <aftertaf> Fujitsu, except when mov files have no sound ;)
[09:11] <garryfre> Bad sectors? Ye mean the drives on there don't mask bad sectors from Ubuntu Painkiller?
[09:11] <BrianG> Fujitsu: tell ubotu that
[09:11] <aftertaf> oz__,  16.999.
[09:11] <BrianG> getting help lately is like running in circles
[09:11] <aftertaf> oz__, see www.get-e.org
[09:11] <aftertaf> BrianG, its a bit panicky yeah...
[09:12] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[09:12] <Fujitsu> True, I'll fix ubotu.
[09:12] <BrianG> !quicktime
[09:12] <ubotu> well, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[09:12] <BrianG> both informations are wrong
[09:13] <freaks> BrianG, mplayer can't read it ?
[09:13] <BrianG> plays it but has no sound
[09:13] <painkiler> Ok, yeah. I need to install ubuntu on this pII. It has 128mb of ram and a 10gb hdd. I just inserted the cd, it booted, and I selected install. It gets to start the X boot up screen, then when it says "Mounting root file system" it just sits there. I ctrl+alt+f1 to see what it was doing. Then it is just cycling through ["insert number here"]  Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block "number here"
[09:13] <mo0se> :-(
[09:13] <Fujitsu> !quicktime
[09:13] <ubotu> methinks quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime0" package (for Ubuntu 6.06) or "libquicktime1" (for Ubuntu 5.10).
[09:13] <mo0se> the wiki doesn't say what to type if you have an intel graphics thingie.
[09:13] <BrianG> mplayer.. that's totem right?
[09:13] <intelikey> i spent three days dl'ing gnome and 10 minutes later i'm removing it.... hehhe what does that say about how much i dislike it.
[09:13] <freaks> BrianG, did you applyed all the codecs found on mplayer homepage?
[09:13] <armedking> I got ubuntu installed over 2 fisicle hard disks. Does it help in performance if i make a swap space on each hard disk. even better is Linux smart enough to use each disk's swap space?
[09:13] <apokryphos> intelikey: that you do ;-)
[09:14] <freaks> BrianG, no, totem is one player ...mplyaer is another
[09:14] <Fujitsu> armedking, it'll use both if you tell it to.
[09:14] <BrianG> freaks: i dunno. it worked before updated to Dapper
[09:14] <aftertaf> intelikey, i did the EXACT same thing :)
[09:14] <freaks> *mplayer
[09:14] <Fujitsu> armedking, and it's `physical.'
[09:14] <freaks> BrianG, weird.. if you use totem, you could try xine-totem ...
[09:14] <painkiler> any idea?
[09:14] <intelikey> apokryphos like 'nome about as much as M$ windows (tm)
[09:14] <mo0se> which xgl package do i get if i have an intel graphics card?
[09:14] <apokryphos> =)
[09:15] <intelikey> which = not at all
 Oke how do i tell it do use it, Btw english is not my main language lol
[09:15] <freaks> totem-xine - A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine
[09:15] <freaks> totem-xine-firefox-plugin - Totem Firefox Plugin - xine version
[09:15] <apokryphos> mo0se: have you read teh faq? :)
[09:15] <BrianG> i use VLC
[09:15] <mo0se> i've read the wiki.
[09:15] <BrianG> but i can't even get that to open unless i type wxvlc in a consol
[09:15] <mo0se> it says what to type for nvidia and ati but not intel.
[09:15] <Fujitsu> armedking, you'll need to add an entry in /etc/fstab
[09:15] <apokryphos> mo0se: then it tells you. Xgl package is the same for all cards, that doesn't change.
[09:15] <DarkMageZ> mo0se, xgl is not supported by ubuntu, please goto #ubuntu-xgl
[09:15] <BrianG> the launcher launches nothing
[09:15] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell armedking about swap
[09:15] <aftertaf> oz__, yo want an autocompile script?
[09:15] <Fujitsu> armedking, please see the link from ubotu.
 Cool, that's all i need to know.
[09:16] <garryfre> Yep, that's likely the issue Pain. At the heyday of 10gb drives, the os would do the work of detecting bad sectors and map around them, with the latest linuxes, they probably don't expect the bad sectors and keep trying to use them. Sounds like an old mfm drive.
[09:16] <mo0se> oh... okay.
[09:16] <BrianG> why won't the VLC launcher launch VLC?
[09:16] <Fujitsu> garryfre, I think hdc is probably the CD drive?
[09:16] <painkiler> hmm, garryfre, I just put that new drive in there
[09:16] <Fujitsu> painkiler, do you have multiple hard disks?
[09:16] <painkiler> no
[09:17] <intelikey> aftertaf in the effert to be fair about it. i even moved the nautilus executable to an obscure place to see if i could stand the 'nome desktop without nautilus..... but alas not even that helped enough to keep it.
[09:17] <painkiler> should I put a new cd in there?
[09:17] <painkiler> or cd drive?
[09:17] <Fujitsu> painkiler, just one hard disk and one CD drive?
[09:17] <aftertaf> BrianG, type dpkg -l | grep vlc... maybe your missing a package
[09:17] <painkiler> yeah
[09:17] <aftertaf> intelikey, argh! 'nome
[09:17] <Fujitsu> painkiler, try a different CD... Sounds like the current one is scratched or something.
[09:17] <BrianG> aftertaf: i'm uninstalled it and reinstalled it like 6 times
[09:17] <painkiler> hmm, ok
[09:17] <painkiler> brb
[09:17] <aftertaf> BrianG, yeah but all the packages?
[09:18] <BrianG> dpkg -l | grep vlc does not say i am missing any packages
[09:18] <mo0se> no one seems to be talking in ubuntu-xgl... poop.
[09:18] <intelikey> aftertaf ok gah'no_me then if you like.
[09:18] <painkiler> which drive is hdc? What is the default mount name?
[09:18] <aftertaf> intelikey, i dont like :]  hehe
[09:18] <BrianG> aftertaf: i'd assume so.. it was via synaptic
[09:18] <intelikey> :)
[09:18] <Fujitsu> painkiler, probably the CD drive.
[09:18] <aftertaf> BrianG, type dpkg -l | grep vlc
[09:18] <Ademan__> hey uh, wtf... i did "sudo chown www-data: -R /var/www" and it changed both owners to www-data, wtf?
[09:18] <BrianG> dpkg -l | grep vlc does not say i am missing any packages
[09:19] <garryfre> painkiler The old 10gb drives wold come out of the factory with bad sectors visible to the OS. It wasn't til they came out with IDE drives that they started, hard coding the drives to mask the bad sectors so the OS would not see them.
[09:19] <BrianG> aftertaf: dpkg -l | grep vlc does not say i am missing any packages
[09:19] <Ademan__> and www-data:root isnt changing it back
[09:19] <aftertaf> BrianG, it wont..... but how many do you see?
[09:19] <BrianG> 3
[09:19] <aftertaf> BrianG, i have 11 :] 
[09:19] <painkiler> oh, it's ide garryfe
[09:19] <Fujitsu> garryfre, it's not a hard disk!
[09:19] <painkiler> and its not that old
[09:20] <aftertaf> BrianG, search vlc in synaptic and install others.....
[09:20] <Fujitsu> painkiler, it's the CD drive...
[09:20] <aftertaf> -plugins...
[09:20] <garryfre> Hmm, got me stumpe then.
[09:20] <painkiler> Fugitsu, its comming up with a new error
[09:20] <BrianG> aftertaf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15179
[09:20] <Fujitsu> painkiler, what error?
[09:20] <garryfre> sounds like a bad cdrom?
[09:20] <Fujitsu> garryfre, I said that 5 minutes ago.
[09:21] <aftertaf> ok BrianG looking
[09:21] <BrianG> aftertaf: i don't need all that other stuff.. i just want the launcher to work
[09:21] <garryfre> Fujitsu yeah, I'm slow tonight.
[09:21] <painkiler> brb
[09:21] <painkiler>  /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off
[09:21] <painkiler> that's the error
[09:22] <aftertaf> BrianG, if you run from console, what happens? maybe the launcher is incorrect.
[09:22] <garryfre> I had cdrom troubles not long ago, changed cables, same problem turned out that the entire box of 25 cables were all bad!
[09:22] <BrianG> aftertaf: it runs and console and then the program runs along with it
[09:22] <Fujitsu> painkiler, that's a different error, sounds very odd.
[09:22] <garryfre> I bet the chances of that would be 1 in a million.
[09:22] <aftertaf> BrianG, weirder even.
[09:22] <BrianG> i've made my own launcher -- wxvlc and still.. no launch
[09:22] <intelikey> painkiler that looks like you may be running a busybox shell before the / mounts ?
[09:23] <intelikey> is that a boot time message that leaves you wondering what to do ?
[09:23] <aftertaf> BrianG, my lancher runs wxvlc and it works not
[09:24] <aftertaf> BrianG, bugginess abounds
[09:24] <BrianG> ok
[09:24] <BrianG> so how do i get sound out of movies?
[09:25] <n33t> hey all
[09:25] <BrianG> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190257
[09:26] <painkiler> hey, I just changed the cd drive
[09:26] <painkiler> AND it worked!
[09:26] <garryfre> Yay!
[09:26] <aftertaf> painkiler, hehe
[09:26] <painkiler> thanks, I owe you guys one
[09:27] <keegan_> Does anyone have any experience with the prelinking tutorial?
[09:27] <painkiler> thanks a heap... well I have to get to installing...
[09:27] <intelikey> every time i try to run this " urpme `dpkg -l | grep gnome | cut -d' ' -f3` "  i get a The following packages have unmet dependencies: abiword-common: Depends: abiword but it is not going to be installed or abiword-gnome but it is not going to be installed    E: Broken packages     but  i can install single packages or remove them without errors    so what is the bug here ?
[09:27] <aftertaf> BrianG, sounds like an alsa problem.
[09:27] <BrianG> aftertaf: how do i fix it? :)
[09:27] <aftertaf> 'sounds like' == no pun intended
[09:28] <intelikey> and before you ask urpme=apt-get remove --purge $*
[09:28] <aftertaf> !asla
[09:28] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, aftertaf
[09:28] <aftertaf> !alsa
[09:28] <ubotu> alsa is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[09:28] <hajuu> Hey guys.. Just updating from hoary to breezy and im stuck in console.. Ive got all my audio setup of course, but I cant figure out how to use mpg321.. anyone know how im supposed to queue a directory etc etc? Or is there a better console music player available?
[09:28] <BrianG> !dmix
[09:28] <ubotu> I heard dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:29] <BrianG> there is no "system>prefrences>multimedia"
[09:29] <hajuu> "multimedia systems selector"
[09:29] <Ademan__> how hard would it be to make one of the right click options for files (in nautilus) be "sudo open" with the normal options ?
[09:29] <hajuu> in the gnome control center
[09:29] <keegan_> Does anyone have any experience with the prelinking ?
[09:29] <BrianG> tehre is no "system>prefrences>multimedia system selector"
[09:29] <aftertaf> BrianG, you gnome or kde?
[09:29] <BrianG> gnome
[09:30] <aftertaf> BrianG, i dont know how to help you with alsa...
[09:30] <aftertaf> but the pb is there
[09:31] <garryfre> Hmmm, sounds like some strange dependancy data issues, if you can install/remove individual packages without gripes but have issues when trying to run that command.
[09:31] <aftertaf> rerun into e17
[09:31] <BrianG> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 <--- is for Hoary, not Dapper
[09:31] <garryfre> alsa seltzor?
[09:31] <garryfre> Do you get sound in other apps?
[09:32] <BrianG> only flash stuff in firefox
[09:32] <BrianG> and amarock
[09:32] <dangerwillrobins> I just upgraded from Breezy to Dapper, and now sound doesn't work at all.  Anyone have any tips?
[09:32] <BrianG> garryfre: see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190257
[09:32] <BrianG> dangerwillrobins: even flash stuff?
[09:32] <Marlun> When I do ./compile does the output always go into some specific file so that I can check it out? Right now it just goes up out of the terminal window and I can't see it.
[09:33] <Fujitsu> dangerwillrobins, a number of people have had this issue.
[09:33] <Fujitsu> dangerwillrobins, what sound card?
[09:33] <Turms> i use dapper, when i insert a floppy no icon appears on the desktop, is there anything i can do for changing this behaviour?
[09:33] <dangerwillrobins> built-in sound on my motherboard; some cheap intel thing IIRC
[09:33] <dangerwillrobins> haven't tried flash...hold on
[09:34] <dangerwillrobins> flash doesn't produce any sound either. :(
[09:34] <mluser-laptop> How does one recover from a failed installation.. my laptop powered off during an install and now the apt database is locked.. even after reboot
[09:35] <dangerwillrobins> one data point: my upgrade froze for 5-10 minutes at the "setting up flashplayer-nonfree" prompt.   I CTRL-C'd at that point and the rest of the install finished fine.
[09:35] <dangerwillrobins> Although there was an error message at the end about the failed upgrade of libflashplayer-nonfree....
[09:35] <intelikey> mluser rm /var/cache/apt/archive/lock   maybe
[09:36] <mluser-laptop> intelikey: thanks
[09:36] <Fujitsu> dangerwillrobins, the freezing is a known issue.
[09:36] <Ademan_> how do you stop the vsftpd server?
[09:37] <cartur25> How can I view videos on spikedhumor.com? It says I need the Macromedia Flash Player but I have it installed and it works with flash games
[09:37] <Fujitsu> sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop
[09:37] <garryfre> BrianG I read your post on the turtle beach thing. I remember I had some issues with alsactl needing to be run or some channels would be muted by default. MIght be alsamixer restore and then alsamixer store
[09:37] <Fujitsu> Ademan_, ^^^
[09:37] <dangerwillrobins> fujitsu, OK, that makes me feel a little better at least. :)  Any ALSA voodoo I can invoke to try to help figure out this sound problem?
[09:37] <Ademan_> thanks Fujitsu
[09:37] <Fujitsu> dangerwillrobins, I'm searching for bugs which may apply.
[09:37] <intelikey> mluser-laptop if that doesn't do it.   one could  'find /var/ -name lock -exec rm {} \; '  but that is a little less than safe.
[09:37] <Fujitsu> cartur25, it's a dodgy site. Please report it with the Firefox tool under Help.
[09:37] <garryfre> BrianG So might look up man alsamixer or man alsactl and see if you find anything.
[09:37] <BrianG> i turned all the channels up
[09:37] <MTecknology> I need some help for an old computer. I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 and got this error when it was trying to start up... Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[09:37] <quad3datwork2> http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=13854105624345452f5d23f&m=screen on bottom left corner... i'm looking for a system monitor like that. anyone can recommend what they use? something looks like that. thanks.
[09:38] <nadia007> anyone know how I can keep two screen resolutions when I'm using a laptop on a docking station and when out of the station?
[09:38] <cartur25> Fujitsu, what do you mean?
[09:38] <Fujitsu> cartur25, if it works on other sites, the website is broken. Please report it using the tool found in the Firefox Help menu.
[09:39] <cartur25> I see
[09:39] <Matthewv> Fujitsu, aren't new flash movies made for a higher version of flash than exists on linux?
[09:39] <cartur25> How can I view streaming wmv format embedded in websites?
[09:39] <garryfre> BrianG Oh. Hmmm, Might try telling the system ye have a creative compatible card but you probably already tried that. I know I lost sound when trying to compile the kernel and had the sound stuff not as modules, and they interfered with eachother.
[09:39] <Fujitsu> Matthewv, sometimes.
[09:39] <Fujitsu> Matthewv, but in that case it would say that, rather than saying you needed Flash.
[09:39] <intelikey> nadia007 not sure what to test for  but  test for the dock in .xsession   with an   if <blah> ;then ....
[09:39] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell cartur25 about restricted
[09:40] <Fujitsu> cartur25, please see the message from ubotu.
[09:40] <nadia007> intelikey, so I'd have to write my own script to detect the presence of a docking station?
[09:40] <cartur25> Thank you
[09:41] <Matthewv> MTecknology, try running the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:41] <intelikey> nadia007 that may not be the only way.... but it would work
[09:41] <BrianG> garryfre: no idea how to do that
[09:41] <BrianG> this stuff worked before i had Dapper
[09:41] <BrianG> now it dosen't
[09:41] <nadia007> intelikey, I appreciate your response...  tough to get anyone to notice ya with so many people!!  thx!
[09:41] <intelikey> np
[09:41] <aftertaf> intelikey, you good with alsa problems?
[09:42] <MTecknology> Matthew, says xserver-org is not installed
[09:42] <intelikey> prolly not but what you got ?
[09:42] <garryfre> BrianG and I see it appears you just got the issue when installing linux instead of compiling stuff. I wonder if you are missing a codec or two.
[09:42] <aftertaf> intelikey, brian has no sound.
[09:42] <Matthewv> MTecknology, xserver-xorg <-- notice the x?? :)
[09:43] <garryfre> Missing codecs maybe?
[09:43] <intelikey> BrianG what does  cat /proc/asound/cards    tell us ?
[09:43] <BrianG> no idea
[09:43] <MTecknology> Matthew, I did
[09:43] <BrianG> hang on
[09:43] <MTecknology> Matthew, oops, sorry
[09:43] <birdmun> are there any nForce2 mobos that dont require apic to be disabled?
[09:43] <BrianG> 0 [CS46xx         ] : CS46xx - Sound Fusion CS46xx
[09:43] <BrianG>                      Sound Fusion CS46xx at 0xe4121000/0xe4000000, irq 201
[09:44] <birdmun> or is there a better place for me to ask this question?
[09:44] <Fujitsu> dangerwillrobins, can you please have a look at this:
[09:44] <Fujitsu> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-tools/+bug/41070
[09:44] <intelikey> BrianG what happens when you run   alsamixer   in the terminal ?
[09:44] <BrianG> lots of colors! heh.. i turned them all UP
[09:44] <Celestar> :(
[09:44] <aftertaf> hehe BrianG colours, ok, but any sound?
[09:45] <garryfre> none are marked as mute are they?
[09:45] <freaks> intelikey, BrianG maybe the mixer levels are 0%
[09:45] <Celestar> E: Couldn't find package xosview
[09:45] <Ubunsto> is it best to use the gdm or kdm?
[09:45] <Ubunsto> how do you switch
[09:45] <Matthewv> Ubugtu, personal pref. to switch just install the one you dont have
[09:45] <Matthewv> oops.. Ubunsto read above...
[09:45] <BrianG> i do not see any marked as mute  garryfre
[09:45] <Ademan_> anyone here with vsftpd, say my file had   rwxrwxrwx   and my umask was rwxrwxr-x    the final permission would be rwxrwxr-x right?
[09:45] <Frogzoo> ok - I've got everything running on dapper nicely - now any recommendations for other packages to try out?
[09:46] <BrianG> freaks: mixer levels are at 80 or above as far as i can tell
[09:46] <Matthewv> Ubunsto, if you have both, just do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm'
[09:46] <Ubunsto> ummm
[09:46] <Ubunsto> ok
[09:46] <intelikey> BrianG ok.   what does    ps aux | grep esd    tell us ?
[09:46] <Fujitsu> Ademan_, ---------, I think....
[09:46] <freaks> BrianG, ang mute option ?
[09:46] <freaks> *and
[09:46] <Fujitsu> Ademan_, or maybe not.
[09:46] <BrianG> intelikey: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190257 for some back info
[09:46] <BrianG> i dont have anything mutes as fara s i can tell
[09:46] <BrianG> *muted as far as i can tell
[09:46] <Ubunsto> so use kdm or gdm?
[09:46] <Fujitsu> Ademan_, actually, you're right.
[09:46] <Ubunsto> does it not matter?
[09:47] <Ademan_> Fujitsu: well it seems to be acting more like how you first said
[09:47] <Fujitsu> Ubunsto, whatever you prefer.
[09:47] <iiiears> Can i use synaptic to grab an applications dev version and buid it myself?
[09:47] <Frogzoo> anyone notice, just btw, that the dapper cd torrent now has over 1000 seeds ? o_O
[09:47] <Matthewv> Ubunsto, it does not really matter.. generally just use whatever you already have...
[09:47] <Fujitsu> Ademan_, maybe umask masks, rather than lets through.
[09:47] <Ubunsto> sweet
[09:47] <garryfre> I remember some trick to redirect files to the current sound device, one could at least get hisses and squeals to see if there is any sound at all. Anyone remember it. BrianG might be able to try that.
[09:47] <Hobbsee> iiiears: you can use apt-get source packagename, adn build it, if you like
[09:47] <Ademan_> yeah, it seems to be that way, that makes it more complicated, but whatever haha
[09:47] <Ubunsto> kde runs nicely with no problems next to gnome using ubuntu right?
[09:47] <freaks> Ubugtu, gdm let you choose languages and some other options on the fly.. i find gdm better..
[09:47] <cartur25> What media player is used to play video embedded in Firefox and how can I change it?
[09:47] <freaks> Ubunsto, i meant
[09:47] <Ubunsto> ok
[09:47] <Matthewv> Ubunsto, yes
[09:47] <Ubunsto> thanks ya'll
[09:47] <iiiears> Hobbsee:  Terrific! - Thank You Hobbsee. :)
[09:48] <Hobbsee> :)
[09:48] <Frogzoo> cartur25: vlc, gxine, totem - take your pick
[09:48] <cartur25> How do I make it vlc
[09:48] <Frogzoo> cartur25: sudo apt-get install vlc              (but gxine is better;)
[09:48] <cartur25> will do
[09:48] <cartur25> What is the code for that then?
[09:48] <intelikey> BrianG ok.   what does    ps aux | grep esd    tell us ?
[09:49] <cartur25> How do I make firefox use gxine?
[09:49] <Matthewv> cartur25, sudo apt-get install gxine :)
[09:49] <birdmun> are there any nForce2 mobos that dont require apic to be disabled?
[09:49] <BrianG> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15180
[09:50] <Ademan_> anyone here have a subversion server up?
[09:50] <Matthewv> cartur25, sudo apt-get install gxineplugin
[09:51] <Matthewv> cartur25, i actually use mplayer myself, you might wan't to check that out if nothing else works :)
[09:51] <Matthewv> MTecknology, any luck?
[09:51] <cartur25> Why do you use mplayer? I thought gxine was the "best"
[09:51] <birdmun> I must say Dapper looks much better than Breezy
[09:51] <MTecknology> Matthew, restarting the computer, thanks for asking - lotta crap to go through
[09:51] <hmpedersen> I wish I could boot into ubuntu right now..
[09:51] <Matthewv> cartur25, its subjective which ones best... i originally used totem, that stuffed up, so i tried mplayer and it works....
[09:52] <Frogzoo> !tell birdmun about themes
[09:52] <Matthewv> until i set up dual screens now nothing works
[09:52] <dangerwillrobins> Fujitsu, I've ensured that no speakers are muted, and I've commented out the second-to-last line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[09:52] <hmpedersen> Seems I booted into windows before I left instead of ubuntu
[09:52] <mrDaniel> i have confiugred my wlan (/etc/network/interfaces and /etc/wpa_supplicant) and everythink  worked fine, but when i started my system today a error occur 'SIOCGIFFLAGS-Failure:No such device'. I don't know what to do now
[09:52] <Frogzoo> birdmun: it's just a matter of installing the right themes
[09:52] <Ademan_> birdmun: its really just the new human theme
[09:52] <dangerwillrobins>  Fujitsu, any tips on how to restart alsa without rebooting to see if that helped?
[09:52] <Ubuntsto> last question promise
[09:52] <Fujitsu> dangerwillrobins, best to reboot, I think.
[09:53] <Ubuntsto> I need to install drivers and 3d support for my Radeon 9556 i think it is....to work with ubuntu kde/gnome
[09:53] <mrDaniel> the command 'sudo ifdown eth1' returns 'ifdown: interface eth1 not configured'
[09:53] <Ubuntsto> what is the easiest stress free way to do so
[09:53] <intelikey> BrianG ok.  from all the information i have gathered from you, i would sujest you use the menus of the apps that you want sound out of and select alsa as the output    it looks like a simple configuration problem to me.    i don't use gnome so i can't really help you any more than that.    most apps have a preferances setting some place in the menus that can select the audio output.....
[09:53] <dangerwillrobins> Fujitsu, well then, wish me luck, and thanks for your help!
[09:53] <Ubuntsto> 9550*
[09:53] <cartur25> When I play my podcast audio feeds in any player (banshee, mplayer, totem) I get the same kind of problems. When I try to track forward the action is choppy and sometimes doesnt do what I want. The audio sometimes freezes too reguardless of media player. Is this because of gstreamer?
[09:53] <intelikey> BrianG one other thing.  are you in the audio group ?
[09:53] <Celestar> damnit
[09:53] <Celestar> does anyone have xosview runnin?
[09:53] <Matthewv> !tell Ubuntsto about ati
[09:53] <Celestar> on ubuntu
[09:53] <MTecknology> Matthewv, it went through booting the crap up, then gave me just a black sreen, the computer's running, but no visual
[09:53] <mrDaniel> and 'ifup eth1' : SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[09:53] <mrDaniel> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[09:53] <mrDaniel> SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
[09:53] <mrDaniel> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[09:53] <mrDaniel> Failed to bring up eth1.
[09:54] <BrianG> intelikey: how do i select the output for the log-in/out sonuds?
[09:54] <Matthewv> mrDaniel, use pastebin or #flood for that
[09:54] <intelikey> BrianG one other thing.  are you in the audio group ?
[09:54] <BrianG> intelikey: which audio group?
[09:54] <Frogzoo> mrDaniel: sudo ...
[09:54] <MTecknology> Matthewv, I take that back, I can use the Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6
[09:54] <intelikey> the audio group
[09:54] <BrianG> i don't know what that is
[09:54] <iiiears> Hobbsee:  erm Okay, apt-get grabbed the source now where did it go? - (I am so very new to linux - lol)
[09:54] <intelikey> BrianG type  groups   in the terminal
[09:54] <Matthewv> MTecknology, sounds like somethings working, but not everything... so no error just black
[09:54] <Frogzoo> iiiears: it'll be under pwd
[09:54] <Hobbsee> iiiears: what directory were you in, when you grabbed the source?
[09:55] <intelikey> is audio listed ?
[09:55] <BrianG> intelikey: no -- brian adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[09:55] <MTecknology> Matthewv, yep, but only at the login screen, rest is fine
[09:55] <cartur25> Are there "better" multimedia frameworks than gstreamer?
[09:55] <intelikey> then yes you are in audio
[09:55] <pez> Hi! it's been 5 minutes since I started installing flashplayer with synaptic, Is it supposed to take tis long?
[09:55] <BrianG> i don't see audio
[09:55] <BrianG> heh
[09:55] <Matthewv> MTecknology, so you can log in graphically, or not....
[09:55] <birdmun> theme or no theme if i could get ubuntu up w/o disabling apic i would be much happier
[09:55] <Frogzoo> pez: on dialup?
[09:56] <BrianG> oh wait, yes i do
[09:56] <BrianG> hah
[09:56] <MTecknology> Matthewv, no
[09:56] <iiiears> /home/me_the_the_new_user lol - Okay i see it. = Thank You. :)
[09:56] <pez> no, it's DSL
[09:56] <Matthewv> MTecknology, try going to one of the terminals, running 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' and then 'X -configure'
[09:56] <intelikey> brian   at this point you need someone that uses and knows gnome to help any farther.
[09:56] <Celestar> I'm looking for a prog that shows (graphically) the CPU usage ?
[09:56] <Celestar> (per CPU preferably)
[09:56] <Frogzoo> pez: well shouldn't take that long - maybe the repos died
[09:57] <intelikey> BrianG there is a prefered applications  listing in the menu iirc   check it to
[09:57] <Frogzoo> pez: the plugin's only a few 100k
[09:57] <maikol> how do you stop the x window
[09:57] <Acetilcolina> hello everybodyy
[09:57] <pez> So what do I do to make it stop the installation?
[09:57] <Frogzoo> maikol: logout & then ctrl alt backspace
[09:57] <intelikey> maikol sudo killall gdm
[09:57] <maikol> Frogzoo: i think that restarts
[09:57] <Acetilcolina> anybody have the notebook HP PAVILLION DV1000??
[09:58] <MTecknology> Matthewv, x-configure, command not found
[09:58] <Frogzoo> pez: for apt-get, just ctrl c
[09:58] <intelikey> Frogzoo is that a startx session or a gdm session ?
[09:58] <Fujitsu> pez, it's a known issue with flashplayer-nonfree.
[09:58] <birdmun> i believe MTecknology it was to be X -configure
[09:58] <k3mper> hi, gnome-panel is eating 100% CPU (dapper) any idea what might be wrong?
[09:58] <Frogzoo> maikol: ok, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[09:58] <pez> ah
[09:58] <MTecknology> ok
[09:58] <cartur25> I have a logitech MX310 mouse, how can I make all 5 mouse buttons work?
[09:58] <Matthewv> MTecknology, sry, its actually 'X -configure'
[09:59] <Frogzoo> cartur25: it's not straightforward, there's a couple of ways (compiled mouse drivers) - try google
[09:59] <MTecknology> yea, had a line break in there
[09:59] <BrianG> intelikey: that dosen't have much to do with sound
[09:59] <garryfre> ctrl-alt-backspace stops and restarts X
[09:59] <BrianG> thanks for your time
[10:00] <intelikey> hope you can find the settings you need to change BrianG
[10:00] <MTecknology> Matthewv, how long should it take to stop?
[10:00] <Matthewv> only a few seconds MTecknology
[10:00] <MTecknology> it's waiting at Checking battery state
[10:01] <aesxa> How can I make it so that desktop icons don't appear when I mount media?
[10:01] <intelikey> aesxa use another desktop
[10:01] <intelikey> ?
[10:02] <intelikey> aesxa that's one of the things i hate about gnome
[10:02] <Ubuntsto> how do I install kdmtheme
[10:02] <Matthewv> aesxa, press alt-F2, type in gconf-editor
[10:02] <MTecknology> Matthewv, x-configure, last two words are Configureation failed
[10:02] <MTecknology> missing output drivers
[10:03] <Matthewv> aesxa, then navigate to /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[10:03] <Matthewv> MTecknology, what vid. card is it?
[10:03] <garryfre> BrianG I found a lot of posts about lack of sound with that sound coard by goggling for Turtle Beach Santa Cruz ubuntu no sound
[10:03] <pez> Frogzoo I pushed crtl+c but it is still installing software
[10:03] <aesxa> Matthewv, that worked. Thank you very much. I'm sure intelikey appreciates it too ;)
[10:03] <MTecknology> Matthewv, I'm not even sure
[10:04] <Matthewv> aesxa, no probs
[10:04] <Hamppari> I'm having a problem, my CPU seems to run on 700mhz (instead of 1,8mhz). I have a laptop. I think its some sort of power saving feature, like in windows. Problem is I don't know where to turn it of on ubuntu.
[10:04] <rems67> whois Abnix
[10:04] <intelikey> aesxa no gnome here to configure
[10:04] <Matthewv> MTecknology, it would have told you during the dpkg-reconfigure... otherwise, run 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | less' and it will be under the device section
[10:05] <BrianG> garryfre: yeah.. but do they have solutions?
[10:05] <czer323> Hamppari> usually, it's called scaling.  It should automatically increase the processor whenever it needs more power.
[10:05] <petrik> Hi all. Is there anywhere online a list of software ratings for linux software?
[10:05] <intelikey> Matthewv you don't cat and less   just less it
[10:05] <garryfre> say BrianG Looking, its a lot of pages ....
[10:05] <cyne> hi all... my cdrom is really slow.. is there any other ways i can install ubuntu?
[10:05] <BrianG> there are many many many no sound psots ont he forum, but none have solutions
[10:05] <Hamppari> czer323 yes I know but is is better like that or just locked to 1,8mhz ?
[10:05] <Hamppari> *is it
[10:05] <Hamppari> *ghz
[10:06] <BrianG> garryfre: maybe i'll just ditch the card
[10:06] <Matthewv> intelikey, sry.. I don't do too much along those lines.... MTecknology did you see that ?
[10:06] <Frogzoo> Hamppari: install the cpu freq monitor applet & you can set the freq manually
[10:06] <cyne> no ubuntu for me
[10:06] <czer323> Hamppari> It's just gonna use more battery if you pinned it at 1.8Ghz.  I personally like it.  I dont' notice a difference at all.
[10:06] <aftertaf> BrianG, maybe its not the correct module for the card. have you tried your onboard one?
[10:06] <cyne> is there any way i can speed up the cdrom install process? maybe by making a swap drive?
[10:06] <Hamppari> czer323 ok, I just dont use battery that often :)
[10:07] <czer323> Hamppari> Whenever it needs more, it kicks up.  You don't even notice it.  There's a gnome applet you can load on the taskbar to watch it.
[10:07] <BrianG> i haven't tried the onboard on
[10:07] <BrianG> i'll give it a try i guess
[10:07] <Hamppari> czer323 I have gdesklets and it seems it goes to 1,8ghz when i open tons of apps
[10:07] <MTecknology> Matthewv, identifier: ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage Pro (AGP); driver: ati; BusID: PCI:1:0:0
[10:07] <Hamppari> so its fine
[10:07] <Matthewv> MTecknology, or 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Device' or is that wrong intelikey
[10:08] <maikol> Frogzoo: crashed the comp when i did it for some reason
[10:08] <czer323> Hamppari> Yeah, that's the normal operation.  Windows does it to, but it doesn't exactly tell you. ;)  But I think you're right, you can tell it not to scale, but I'm honestly not sure of the commands.  I'm still somewhat of a newb.
[10:08] <Matthewv> MTecknology, you might want to try installing the ati binary driver.. someone correct me if that won't help...
[10:08] <intelikey> Matthewv well i didn't mean to be critical there.  if one liked to pipe things through filters one could  cat blah | more | man | less      but   less blah   is the same thing.   or almost.  man would format it also. and more would do nothing to it.
[10:08] <cyne> how can i speed up cdrom access to install ubuntu properly? i have waited 2 hours for the choose language install window to properly show... the cdrom just sits there swapping
[10:08] <MTecknology> Matthewv, you just completely lost me
[10:09] <MTecknology> aside from not actually having drivers for this computer
[10:09] <Matthewv> intelikey, no probs.. i was just asking if that was right.. cause I'm learning...
[10:09] <Matthewv> MTecknology, ubotu sent you 2 links?
[10:10] <MTecknology> Matthewv, would it maybe be just easier to use CLI distro based on debian?
[10:11] <jirwin> hola
[10:11] <Matthewv> MTecknology, cli distro? you mean give up on graphical display?
[10:11] <ompaul> !ati
[10:11] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[10:11] <Frogzoo> maikol: ouch - upgrade your vid driver if possible
[10:11] <cartur25> How can I set file associations with dapper?
[10:12] <ompaul> ^^^ MTecknology that is supposed to work up a few lines
[10:12] <MTecknology> Matthewv, yea this is just going to be a documenttion computer, but i think i'll strive a little further
[10:12] <MTecknology> yea, i got the links, t
[10:12] <MTecknology> y
[10:13] <maikol> Frogzoo: no worries, its just a server, which is why i didnt want any desktop running
[10:13] <Matthewv> MTecknology, if you follow the HOWTO's at those links you should be able to install the appropriate drivers from ati for ur grafx card....
[10:13] <czer323> cartur25> I"m not a tech, but it should be as easy as right clicking on the file, and 'open with.'  You can add associations in there.
[10:13] <MTecknology> Matthewv, k, ty
[10:13] <Matthewv> MTecknology, try the second link the first is broken
[10:13] <ompaul> cartur25, so you right click on an file (nautilus if its not on your desktop), you choose what to open it will open with other appliaciton, and you can set the default there
[10:14] <garryfre> BrianG I looked through about four pages, nothing but crowing about how it works, or some conflict with their mb when the sound card happens to be part of the system, no useful info I could find.
[10:14] <jirwin> cartur25: very possibly with gconf-editor also
[10:14] <BrianG> garryfre: thanks. i saw that too
[10:14] <alan|home> hey all
[10:15] <alan|home> anyone here has ever been able to get a ARTEC T1 card working ?
[10:15] <mwe> Matthewv: do you know if the first ati link is permanently broken?
[10:15] <cartur25> When I right click on a file and click open with, I don't get the option to set default. Yes, I am running Nautalus
[10:16] <MTecknology> Matthewv, only problem is that i don't have the command aticonfig
[10:16] <Matthewv> mwe, i'm not sure, i just went to it and it was broken... its probably similar to what's included in the dapper docs too...
[10:16] <jirwin> MTecknology: you are running dapper?
[10:16] <MTecknology> no
[10:16] <jirwin> scroll down a bit
[10:16] <MTecknology> ok
[10:16] <Matthewv> MTecknology, you'll need to follow the 5.10 instructions then
[10:16] <mwe> Matthewv: I was thinking about removing the link from the factoid
[10:16] <Matthewv> mwe, maybe just check with the doc team?
[10:17] <MTecknology> sry, i think i'm losing it
[10:17] <ompaul> http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver
[10:17] <ompaul> that works
[10:18] <Matthewv> k MTecknology run sudo apt-get install linux-686
[10:18] <cartur25> As suggested, I right clicked on the file and selected open with, but I get no option to set default program
[10:18] <ompaul> are there other broken links known about please message me
[10:18] <MTecknology> Matthewv, i'm going through that wiki
[10:19] <Matthewv> yep.. MTecknology thats what the wiki says too isn't it ?? :D
[10:19] <MTecknology> yea
[10:19] <Acetilcolina>  anybody have the notebook HP PAVILLION DV1000??
[10:19] <Matthewv> mwe, that guide is deprecated.. so it would be safe to remove
[10:19] <Matthewv> MTecknology, does that command run fine?
[10:20] <MTecknology> yea
[10:20] <nysosym> hi all
[10:20] <Daemonic> well I just burned 6.06 and installed it.. I get visual artifacts with my ATI X700 Pro and when they get real bad, like me moving a window around the screen, my system hard locks.
[10:20] <Daemonic> any ideas?
[10:20] <Matthewv> !ubotu tell Daemonic about ati
[10:20] <Matthewv> Daemonic, maybe that would help??? worth a try..
[10:21] <Matthewv> MTecknology, what about the next command?
[10:21] <MTecknology> Matthewv, yea, i'm to the point of reconfiguring again
[10:22] <cstrippie> !ubotu tell cstrippie about ati
[10:22] <ompaul> cstrippie, you can also do /msg ubotu ati and then the channel does not know you asked ;-)
[10:22] <MTecknology> Matthewv, how much memory for my vid card
[10:22] <Matthewv> MTecknology, k... just report back on how it goes :)
[10:23] <Matthewv> MTecknology, you don't know how much it has?
[10:23] <ompaul> MTecknology, what is it a 128meg a 256meg or ?
[10:23] <MTecknology> nope
[10:23] <cstrippie> ompaul - thanks, new here (clearly)
[10:23] <MTecknology> would 128 be safe??
[10:23] <ChefWill> anyone using dapper and totem-xine plugin for ff1.5 experiencing really bright streaming video pictures?
[10:23] <ompaul> cstrippie, clearly is only for a mint ;-) we all learn, I was kicked out the first few times I came in here ...
[10:24] <cstrippie> Demonic - I used automatix, which installed the ATI driver for me - just a thought.
[10:24] <garryfre> BrianG I found this url on the turtle beach site about a sound driver for that card for linux ... http://www.cirrus.com/drivers/audiodrv/index2.cfm?ProductID=CS4630&CategoryName=CS4630
[10:24] <ompaul> MTecknology, its not a matter of safe, it is what is your video card
[10:24] <Matthewv> MTecknology, what machine do you have??
[10:24] <MTecknology> ompaul, i have no idea
[10:24] <MTecknology> it's a rebuilt compaq from a few years back
[10:25] <ompaul> MTecknology, do this, lshw -C video
[10:25] <ompaul> it will tell you there
[10:25] <ompaul> then we will do the math and give you the number
[10:26] <mtholdenss> how do i get app to start up as i login
[10:26] <ompaul> MTecknology, it says ? size: ?? MB
[10:26] <Matthewv> mtholdenss, try System --> Preferences --> Session
[10:26] <MTecknology> says size 16MB, so that's 16,384 KB??
[10:26] <cens0red> hi.
[10:26] <mtholdenss> yeh i kno that part
[10:26] <mtholdenss> but i dont kno how to put the command in
[10:27] <ompaul> MTecknology, yes
[10:27] <mtholdenss> i hit add and i dont kno wat to put in that
[10:27] <Matthewv> mtholdenss, what app?
[10:27] <mtholdenss> gdesklets
[10:27] <sugoruyo> hi all
[10:27] <cens0red> I used gksudo "update-manager" to go from Breezy to Dapper ... and weird things happened. How can I tell that Dapper is installed properly?
[10:27] <Matthewv> try pressing add, and just typing in gdesklets mtholdenss
[10:28] <MTecknology> use kernel framebuffer device interface??
[10:28] <networkr> anyone tried dapper and the java install on the wiki page, it no workie...
[10:28] <mtholdenss> as a start up command?
[10:28] <sugoruyo> i have some hardware support issues with this laptop and dapper
[10:28] <garryfre> Did you do the -d after the update-manager?
[10:28] <Matthewv> mtholdenss, yep.. that should do it
[10:28] <ws6> hi
[10:28] <MTecknology> matthewv, use kernel framebuffer device interface??
[10:28] <Matthewv> networkr, error??
[10:28] <sugoruyo> is this the right place to ask or should i go to a more general channel?
[10:28] <ompaul> cens0red, lsb_release -d will tell you
[10:28] <CarinArr> hey, i have a question. i just installed the java sdk from sun, and the CLASSPATH etc don't seem to be setup correctly
[10:28] <networkr> no error, just firefox doesn't see plugin
[10:28] <ws6> anyone
[10:29] <Matthewv> MTecknology, default should be fine.. i think it gives some hints at the prompt....
[10:29] <CarinArr> is there any step by step guide to installing it under ubuntu anyway
[10:29] <CarinArr> (still using breezy)
[10:29] <ompaul> sugoruyo ask the channel the real question,
[10:29] <mtholdenss> ok thnx, ive managed to make ubuntu look mac osx look, with the gdesklets launcher
[10:29] <cens0red> ompaul cheers.
[10:29] <Matthewv> networkr, is the plugin listed in about:plugins
[10:29] <MTecknology> matthewv, what X.Org server modules should load by default, should I use default set?
[10:30] <Matthewv> MTecknology, default should work fine
[10:30] <sugoruyo> i have this vaio which, and while dapper works pretty well on it
[10:30] <sugoruyo> i seem to have two functions missing
[10:30] <sugoruyo> i can't adjust the volume of the sound and the brightness of the screen
[10:31] <MTecknology> matthewv, how do I know what Hz my video is running at?
[10:31] <networkr> there is NO "about" plugins in this firefox
[10:31] <ompaul> CarinArr, sudo update-alternatives --all and set it there
[10:31] <MTecknology> matthewv, is that clock?
[10:31] <CarinArr> thanks
[10:31] <ompaul> !tell CarinArr about java
[10:31] <Matthewv> MTecknology, what model monitor?
[10:31] <cvogel> Is there a command-line multimedia player like XMMS?
[10:31] <garryfre> Tp center of the screen is a think just to left of date, its a sound control interface if you ar using ubuntu Dapper
[10:31] <cstrippie> I take it that the linux version of Firefox has no RSS reader?
[10:31] <cvogel> something i can stream with
[10:32] <garryfre> top center that is.
[10:32] <MTecknology> matthewv, HP Pavilion, idk more on it
[10:32] <Matthewv> networkr, can't u navigate to 'about:plugins' in firefox? just type that in the address box and hit enter...
[10:32] <MTecknology> matthewv, HP Pavilion 550
[10:32] <MTecknology> matthewv, HP Pavilion S50** sorry, tired
[10:32] <ompaul> sugoruyo, outside of my range of knowledge, I might point you at https://wiki.ubuntu.com and do a text search
[10:33] <sugoruyo> those things (on windoze) are controlled by hotkeys and they seem to be the kind that has that weird sony chip
[10:33] <CarinArr> ompaul, it doesnt' seem to list the custom java install i did tho
[10:33] <BrianG> garryfre: that page redirects to the home page
[10:33] <CarinArr> lists two other locations, but not the one i need
[10:33] <Jane_eyre|> i've installed dapper, now when i put a floppy in, no icn appears on the desktop, mdk did it
[10:33] <ShereKhan> I have installed 6.06, and I have a Radeon 9800 with a 20" LCD and a 21" CRT, both running at 1600x1200. How do I setup X to only use the LCD? I tried 'sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --dtop=single', but I still get (same) picture on both
[10:33] <rjian> can anyone teach me how to config a network like sharing connection???
[10:33] <networkr> i did that, and in "about:plugins", there was only flash, which i might expect at this point
[10:33] <sugoruyo> i'm guessing i'd need to set up that sonypi stuff...
[10:33] <Matthewv> MTecknology, hang on
[10:33] <sugoruyo> but i got no clue as to what i'm doing
[10:33] <bananafly> how do i get gpart working_
[10:33] <ompaul> sugoruyo,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com and do a text search ..
[10:34] <networkr> has anyone here successfully installed java plugin for firefox in 6.06?
[10:34] <rjian> i need help??
[10:34] <bananafly> i know i have to run it from a live-cd, but it still doesnt work
[10:34] <Schalken> anyone here ran Ubuntu on an nVidia 5200 FX?
[10:34] <sugoruyo> ompaul: i've found a guide to getting debian testing working with all that stuff on the same model
[10:34] <rjian> can anyone teach me how to config network??
[10:34] <sugoruyo> whould these principles apply to ubuntu
[10:34] <sugoruyo> similarly?
[10:34] <rjian> im using ubuntu 5.10
[10:34] <networkr> has anyone here successfully installed java plugin for firefox in 6.06?
[10:34] <garryfre> BrianG Hmmm, strainge.
[10:35] <ompaul> CarinArr, have a look at that message from the bot it may prove interesting
[10:35] <CarinArr> k
[10:35] <CarinArr> thanks
[10:35] <networkr> i take it I'm the first
[10:35] <networkr> has anyone here successfully installed java plugin for firefox in 6.06?
[10:35] <rjian> can anyone help me here??
[10:35] <ompaul> sugoruyo, yes and no, best to check the wiki and see if the there is a report for such a laptop
[10:35] <Madpilot> networkr, please don't repeat so often - and Java is easy to install...
[10:36] <ompaul> !java
[10:36] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:36] <Jane_eyre|> netsi: if you have a system at 32bit is simple, not so if it is 64bits
[10:36] <mwe> is it safe to remove dangling symlinks like '/usr/share/locale/pt/LC_TIME/coreutils.mo -> ../LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo' ?
[10:36] <ompaul> !javadebs
[10:36] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[10:36] <rjian> ompaul: can u help me??
[10:36] <networkr> has anyone here successfully installed java plugin for firefox in 6.06?
[10:36] <networkr> if you haven't don't reply
[10:36] <mattsy> hey, im on ubuntu 6.06, got rid of windows, but still have a large ntfs partition, any way to convert it?
[10:36] <Matthewv> MTecknology, 60 should do it....
[10:36] <rjian> ie
[10:36] <rjian> anyone here???
[10:37] <rjian> i need a help
[10:37] <MTecknology> Matthewv, should I restart or just start gdm
[10:37] <garryfre> No we are just in your imagination. :)
[10:37] <MTecknology> nm, i restart
[10:37] <networkr> has anyone here successfully installed java plugin for firefox in 6.06?  If you haven't done it yourself, spare the guess, pls.
[10:37] <ompaul> rjian, stop, it wait for 10 minutes and see if anyone has answered it
[10:37] <garryfre> ye can restart just gdm by ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:37] <CarinArr> ompaul, i'm wanting to install the jdk not the java plugin
[10:37] <Madpilot> networkr, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <-- scroll down to the Java stuff, and stop repeating yourself every 30 seconds...
[10:38] <ompaul> CarinArr, ahh, sorry failed to notice,
[10:38] <Matthewv> rjian, what exactly is wrong?
[10:38] <rjian> i need help sharing my internet connection on network windows?
[10:38] <bananafly> how do i get gpart working? i am running it from a livecd but i keep getting permission denied errors
[10:39] <bananafly> i saved it on a usb stick and im trying to run it from the ubuntu livecd
[10:39] <Matthewv> rjian, so the ubuntu pc is connected directly to the net? or the windows one?
[10:39] <ompaul> rjian, read this, see if it helps https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkConfiguration
[10:40] <rjian> im suppose to be the server on the network.. i want also to share my connection and share files since im the server
[10:40] <ubuntsto> ok I followed the ATI wiki how do i confirm the driver installed correctly
[10:40] <cartur25> Is there a way to view files in the file browser as a List in the way windows displays lists? File Browser displays them as windows would display "detailed" view
[10:41] <Matthewv> ubuntsto, try running fglrxinfo
[10:41] <MTecknology> matthewv, ompaul, i freakin love you - thanks
[10:41] <ubuntsto> ta
[10:41] <Matthewv> no probs MTecknology.. all works now?
[10:41] <ubuntsto> can I paste the result?
[10:41] <Madpilot> cartur25, View As List/View As Icons - dropdown in the top-right corner of the file manager screen
[10:41] <ompaul> MTecknology, be happy, hang around you will be surprised what you will learn
[10:41] <ompaul> ubuntsto, NO
[10:41] <rjian> im currently using ubuntu 5.10
[10:41] <ys76> Hi there! How could I configure the locales under dapper? It was dpkg-reconfigure locales before, but now?
[10:41] <Matthewv> ubuntsto, no, use #flood or pastebin for that sort of thing
[10:41] <ompaul> ubuntsto, use paste.ubuntu.com
[10:42] <MTecknology> Matthewv, yea should I be able to upgrade to dapper and keep it working?
[10:42] <ompaul> ubuntsto, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org worry
[10:42] <ompaul> ubuntsto, sorry the morning typos
[10:42] <cartur25> Madpilot: Yes that works but it displays lists as Windows would display detailed view. I want to know if there is a way to display as a list in the way that windows would display list view
[10:42] <Matthewv> rjian, I do not know if this is the correct way to do this, but I would try installing firestarter and allowing it to be a dhcp server
[10:42] <Matthewv> MTecknology, yes, you should
[10:42] <Madpilot> cartur25, you mean a simple list with no details? Don't think so
[10:43] <ompaul> rjian, check the message from the bot please and action at least one part of it
[10:43] <Schalken> has anyone here ran Ubuntu on an nVidia 5200 FX?
[10:43] <ompaul> !nvidia
[10:43] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[10:43] <rjian> ah okie wait
[10:43] <MTecknology> Matthewv, how do I add the option to use a larger resolution?
[10:43] <ompaul> !fixresolution
[10:43] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[10:43] <ompaul> !resolution
[10:43] <ubuntsto> follow me to #flood
[10:43] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:43] <ompaul> ubuntsto, use the pastebin it lasts longer
[10:44] <ompaul> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:44] <Matthewv> MTecknology, ompaul knows.. so does ubotu :) have a read ...
[10:44] <ubuntsto> ok
[10:44] <MTecknology> :)
[10:44] <Madpilot> !fixres
[10:44] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:44] <Madpilot> ompaul, ^^^
[10:44] <ubuntsto> its there
[10:45] <Madpilot> heh. nevermind, I missed that !resolution works too - my bad
[10:45] <ompaul> ubuntsto, normally if you give the url its easier for people to find it
[10:45] <MTecknology> !upgrade
[10:45] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[10:45] <bananafly> Why am I getting permission denied errors when trying to run gpart? I am running it from a live CD.
[10:45] <ompaul> !tell ubuntsto about ati
[10:45] <rjian> how can i install samba?? sorry this is my first time using ubuntu
[10:46] <Flannel> !tell rjian about samba
[10:46] <ompaul> ubuntsto, read that url that ubotu sent you cheers
[10:46] <ompaul> rjian, that page should tell you
[10:46] <ubuntsto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15182
[10:47] <MTecknology> to upgrade to dapper, can't I just update my sources.list and do apt-get --update, apt-get dist-upgrade??
[10:47] <ompaul> rjian, I already had the bot send you that, it is a set of instuctions on the url, when you follow them you have stuff set up, it beats the living daylights of you trying to follow it in irc
[10:47] <Matthewv> apt-get update , and yes MTecknology you can
[10:47] <ompaul> MTecknology, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:47] <MTecknology> ok
[10:47] <MTecknology> ty all - loave ya
[10:48] <MTecknology> love*
[10:48] <Matthewv> or I think on breezy, if you already have the latest updates, you can just press alt-f2, then do update-manager -d
[10:48] <MTecknology> well, i have 155 updates to go for breezy
[10:48] <Matthewv> wow
[10:48] <cartur25> Are there hot keys to launch the Terminal window instead of going to accessories > terminal?
[10:49] <Matthewv> probably best just doing what ompaul said
[10:49] <ChefWill> what ff1.5 plugins do yall use for streaming video in dapper?
[10:49] <MTecknology> it's clipping along for a 400MHz processor with something like 256Mb RAM
[10:49] <garryfre> alt f1 through alt f4
[10:49] <Matthewv> cartur25, not by default but you can set them in System --> Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts
[10:51] <intelikey> is gnome bloated or what... apt-get install gnome   yelds "After unpacking 479MB of additional disk space will be used."    not that i'll install it again.  just checking the size.
[10:52] <glick> jhi
[10:52] <blaze> may somebody tell me what was the site for printer drivers
[10:52] <blaze> because i've forgotten it =)
[10:52] <garryfre> !printers
[10:52] <ubotu> from memory, printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[10:52] <Madpilot> blaze, linuxprinting.org?
[10:52] <iiiears> intelikey  - lol i agree.   read yesterday that the next redmond OS is about 10 gigabytes. - We have some "Catching up" to do.
[10:52] <blaze> thanks! :)
[10:53] <glick> vista is 10 gigs large?
[10:53] <iiiears> glick - yes
[10:53] <glick> iiiears: thats with office and a slew of real world usefull programs right?
[10:54] <Flannel> iiiears: no.
[10:54] <Flannel> erm, glick
[10:54] <iiiears> got to wonder how large the kernel of that monster is.the kernel
[10:54] <cstrippie> glick - read an article about MS "struggling to get Vista to operate well within 2gb of ram."
[10:54] <glick> thats hard to believe
[10:54] <bananafly> i need help with gpart, it wont run
[10:55] <Madpilot> Folks - Vista chat can move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[10:55] <iiiears> lol - point taken
[10:55] <cstrippie> K, sorry
[10:56] <rjian> how about internet connection shared lan?
[10:56] <Matthewv> bananafly, maybe 'gparted' ?
[10:56] <bananafly> no, gpart
[10:57] <garryfre> blaze Under System/Administration/printing you can get ubuntu to detect your printer real easy.
[10:57] <bananafly> the one you have to run from a livecd
[10:57] <blaze> i'll try it garryfre, thanks to you too :)
[10:57] <Matthewv> bananafly, to the best of my knowledge only gparted is on the live cd, and there is a gparted live cd available... what exactly do u mean by it won't run
[10:57] <garryfre> blaze welcome
[10:59] <bananafly> I mean that i have downloaded GPART to my USB stick, since I have to run it from a livecd, but it still gives me the same error as if I was running it from a non-livecd os
[10:59] <rjian> can anyone help me with internet connection?
[10:59] <bananafly> this is the gpart im talking about: http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/
[10:59] <ben42> a friend of mine is running hoary but will upgrade now. can we go directly to dapper or do you recommend first to upgrade to breezy and then to dapper?
[10:59] <CraiZE> hey
[10:59] <CraiZE> is there something like adobe gamma ?
[10:59] <Flannel> ben42: he has to do upgrade one version at a time
[11:00] <ben42> Flannel: thx
[11:00] <iiiears> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkConfiguration
[11:00] <cartur25> When I middle click with my scroll wheel my firefox opens a new tab with the new link website but it also opens the link website in the current tab. How do I make it so that middle click opens a new tab with the link window and not in the current tab as well?
[11:00] <Matthewv> sry bananafly my mistake
[11:01] <Matthewv> do you get an error?
[11:01] <rjian> waaaaaaaa theres a problem on network windows can see the computer but they cant get in?  how will i do that?
[11:01] <garryfre> Under Applications/Add Remove you get a list of apps to find. Under system tools is QTParted which is a graphical partitioner you can add to gnome.
[11:01] <bananafly> Matthewv, yes, Permission denied
[11:01] <Matthewv> bananafly, sudo?
[11:02] <Mikelo> hey guys apt keeps telling me that i need upgrade a package of which i've installed the same version independently (with alien), the thing is that the apt installation doesn't run so well, but package manager keeps telling me i need to upgrade how do i tell him to shut up?
[11:02] <bananafly> Matthewv, no difference
[11:02] <ompaul> rjian, have you done the samba thing as requested
[11:02] <rjian> yes im done it... windows can see me but theres a problem... when i try to enter they ask for password
[11:02] <Matthewv> Mikelo, try locking version in synaptic?
[11:03] <Flannel> rjian: did you read the whole page?
[11:03] <Flannel> rjian: since it talks about setting up the password and stuff
[11:03] <Matthewv> bananafly, does it say what permission is denied to
[11:03] <bananafly> Matthewv, no.
[11:03] <iiiears> rjian: Does right clicking on the folder selecting "share"  in your home directory that you want shared help? Beyond the gui and compiling apps my knowledge is very limited.
[11:04] <rjian> when i double click my computer name it will ask for the password...
[11:04] <cstrippie> rjian - I assume you've already set up windows sharing in System -> Administration -> sharing?
[11:04] <Flannel> rjian: so, enter the password.
[11:04] <xavier> hello hello,
[11:05] <czer323> lol, right before bed question> Why isn't the root level file system on the desktop?  How do i put it there easily so that it acts just like the other partitions?
[11:05] <iiiears> xavier:  Welcome
[11:05] <xavier> I tried to upgrade my ubuntu 5.10, the upgrade is stuck. I can't manage to uninstall kbabel!!!
[11:05] <rjian> not accepting my password
[11:05] <Matthewv> bananafly, i don't know :(
[11:06] <Schalken> how can i get the special keys at the top of my keyboard to work?
[11:06] <xavier> iiiears :  I see you stand for you alias ;-)
[11:06] <iiiears> lol
[11:06] <Matthewv> xavier, any specific error?
[11:06] <CompuCh|p> Hi
[11:06] <xavier> in a minute....
[11:06] <Matthewv> hi CompuCh|p
[11:06] <Flannel> Schalken: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaKeys
[11:06] <rjian> not accepting the password
[11:07] <Schalken> thanks Flannel!
[11:07] <cat> hey what is this bash script that mounts windows partitions?
[11:07] <xavier> well it's stuck under "Removing kbabel..."
[11:07] <CompuCh|p> I am running Breezy at the moment, and I need php5-interbase. But it only is available for Dapper as far as I can tell. Is there any painless way to install it without upgrading? :)
[11:07] <iiiears> cat winmac_fstab.sh or mounter.sh seveas contributed winmac_fstab
[11:07] <ompaul> rjian, the culture of IRC is ask wait 12 to 15 minutes ask again, this gors for all users, please wait a while thank you
[11:07] <r0xoR> holy bejezus Dapper is fast on my AMD64 :)
[11:08] <cat> iiiears, where can i get it from?
[11:08] <r0xoR> only a 1.6GHz too
[11:08] <Matthewv> xavier, sure its not working? and just take a while?
[11:08] <xavier> I waited 30 min!!! nada
[11:08] <Matthewv> ok ok xavier
[11:08] <cartur25> What resolution are you guys running ur linux at?
[11:08] <xavier> 1600x1200x32
[11:08] <r0xoR> cartur25:  1600x1200
[11:08] <Matthewv> xavier, if you wan't to stop it you can hit ctrl+c, and try manually removing it
[11:08] <iiiears> last time i saw it it was here http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl a quick google will turn it up pronto.
[11:08] <Fjodor> cartur25: 2624x1200
[11:09] <Fjodor> dual head
[11:09] <Matthewv> cartur25, 2048x768
[11:09] <Madpilot> cartur25, 1280x1024x75
[11:09] <B4zzA> hi
[11:09] <CompuCh|p> I already tried editing the apt/sources.list to include a dapper repository but it failed on unmet dependencies :S
[11:09] <ompaul> xavier,  sudo dpkg -P --force-depends $package
[11:09] <CompuCh|p> Hi B4zzA
[11:09] <xavier> I did the Ctrl+C trick, I don't know to to remove manually beside using apt-get remove kbabel or dpkg -r kbabel
[11:09] <Nilsy> 1600x1200 and 1280x768
[11:09] <B4zzA> does anyone know if there is Nvidia Geforce GO Drivers?
[11:09] <czer323> cartur, 1400x1050
[11:09] <B4zzA> for ubuntu :P
[11:09] <B4zzA> laptop
[11:09] <cartur25> I'm on an intel graphics chip stuck at 1280x800- where can I download x server for ubuntu dappeR?
[11:10] <czer323> b4zza> i have the regular nvidia drivers installed for this laptop.  It's a geforce2 Go
[11:10] <B4zzA> hmm
[11:10] <cat> hey what is this bash script that mounts windows partitions?
[11:10] <cat> where can i get it at
[11:10] <Flannel> !tell cat about ntfs
[11:10] <ompaul> !enter
[11:10] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:10] <Kaja> You can find the supported cards on nVidia's website.
[11:10] <cat> thnx
[11:10] <B4zzA> hmm the ones from the apt repository tells me i dont have a nvidia device
[11:10] <B4zzA> might try dl from nvidia website
[11:11] <Kaja> Then you might need newer drivers..
[11:11] <ompaul> B4zzA, read the message from the bot please
[11:11] <Kaja> Yea =)
[11:11] <xavier> Matthewv??
[11:11] <cstrippie> B4zza - Automatix will install Nvidia drivers for some cards, though I don't know which ones.
[11:11] <Matthewv> sry xavier and none of those work?
[11:11] <xavier> nope
[11:11] <czer323> B4zza> EasyUbuntu is a script that'll install them as well.
[11:12] <B4zzA> ok
[11:12] <czer323> That's what worked for me.  I had to manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, but it wasn't that bad.
[11:12] <B4zzA> its not som much that i dont know how to
[11:12] <Madpilot> !automatix
[11:12] <ubotu> automatix is, like, dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[11:12] <Nilsy> !tell nilsy about ntfs
[11:12] <Matthewv> xavier, try sudo dpkg -r --force-all kbabel
[11:12] <B4zzA> after i edited the xorg.conf file, changed to "nvidia" and some other tweaks
[11:12] <Vaylor> re
[11:13] <B4zzA> it tried to start x, before giving me a error
[11:13] <cartur25> Does X server come installed in dapper?
[11:13] <Mulder_> anyone know if there's a proper fix for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=898d96b42294d6f78529390223ae8749&t=182618&page=2&highlight=internet+connection yet?
[11:13] <xavier> It should take 2 sec?? right??
[11:13] <Flannel> cartur25: on desktops, yes.
[11:13] <Matthewv> xavier, removing??
[11:13] <Kaja> cartur25, desktop install, yes.
[11:13] <B4zzA> i dont need a script..im not that helpless
[11:13] <ompaul> cstrippie, read the source code of that thing you suggested, and if you don't shudder you don't know enough - it is just *bad*
[11:14] <iiiears> lol ompaul
[11:14] <ompaul> B4zzA, I had the bot send you how to do that
[11:14] <xavier> after Ctrl+C I get -> dpkg: error processing kbabel (--purge)
[11:14] <czer323> B4zzA> You should probably pastebin the error then at least to let other people see what errors you're getting.
[11:14] <xavier> yes removing
[11:14] <ompaul> B4zzA, its documented
[11:15] <Matthewv> xavier, did you try the command above: 'sudo dpkg -r --force-all kbabel'
[11:15] <Balachmar> Hi, I have a problem printing to a network printer, since Dapper Drake
[11:15] <xavier> now I'm trying, same same... it wont pass the "Removing kbabel..."
[11:16] <rixxon> how do i get preview working for mp3 in nautilus?
[11:16] <ompaul> B4zzA, if you choose another method it is the equvilant of going to a petrol pump and guessing which one is petrol and which one is diesel :-)
[11:16] <B4zzA> well
[11:16] <Matthewv> xavier, it could take a while but half an hour is too long......
[11:17] <xavier> yep, previous command is still running. nothing
[11:17] <xavier> no HD led blinking
[11:17] <cartur25> Uber noob question: Does linux use drivers like windows?
[11:17] <njan> yes and no
[11:17] <Matthewv> cartur25, it uses drivers, but is not compatible with windows drivers
[11:17] <B4zzA> lets see if its something to do with the repository driver, (which may not be up to date) or a dl driver in general first
[11:17] <Kaja> Driver modules..
[11:17] <CraiZE> so uhm
[11:17] <r0xoR> !repositories
[11:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:17] <njan> it uses them, but they're almost unilaterally integrated with the kernel so you don't worry about them.
[11:17] <r0xoR> !restricted
[11:17] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:18] <njan> There are third party drivers like windows, but generally they're for graphics cards or specialised hardware.
[11:18] <Adrian_NZ> I've got a weird problem with the new kernel after I upgraded to dapper, the ethernet connection looks fine but I cannot connect to anything on my network (or internet). My NIC works fine with the old kernel. Anyone have any ideas?
[11:18] <xavier> cause my system is stuck during upgrade, I have no sound and all the system behave strangly
[11:18] <iiiears> cartur - Grab the source code for one and rewrite it to suit your needs. - okay i was j/k. - ;)
[11:18] <B4zzA> yes ..my sources.list has restricted universe and multiverse
[11:18] <CompuCh|p> Since nobody seems to know how to get php5-interbase working in Breezy, maybe I should upgrade to dapper. Do I have to burn a new CD for it or can I download the upgrade in a way as to keep my system working without losing all data and configurations?
[11:19] <B4zzA> but ompaul ..while im waiting ill see if your suggested way works :)
[11:19] <Flannel> CompuCh|p: right, you can update via a package manager
[11:20] <CompuCh|p> Last time I just edited the apt/sources.list by basically changing hoary to breezy, and running apt dist-upgrade. Will that work again?
[11:20] <Raovq> hey. anyone have any idea why amarok and vlc won't play media but audacity will?
[11:20] <Matthewv> sry xavier don't know.. bbl..
[11:20] <Flannel> !tell CompuCh|p about upgrade
[11:20] <xavier> Adrian_NZ what about a firewall??? do't dapper come with firestarter??
[11:20] <Adrian_NZ> i've checked iptables
[11:20] <xavier> Matthewv 10x!!!
[11:20] <CompuCh|p> tx Flannel
iptables is set to let everything in and out, so thats not the problem
[11:22] <xavier> any other channel you know?? for asking this question??
[11:22] <ChefWill> i wish you could advance the video in the totem-xine plugin ;/
[11:22] <CompuCh|p> I assume I don't need any special precautions (moving the homedirs and config files to another hard disk) apart from regular backup...
[11:22] <CompuCh|p> So I'll be updating and hoping php5-interbase will install through apt :)
[11:22] <CompuCh|p> thanks for the help guys
[11:24] <Raovq> anyone have any idea why amarok and vlc won't play media but audacity will?
 What audio engine is amarok using?
[11:25] <alth> Anyone know how I can quickly clear my rockbox media library?
[11:25] <Raovq> xine
[11:25] <Adrian_NZ> have you tested xine itself? ie command line
[11:25] <iiiears> Raovq - Check to see if those players have more than one codec installed for the same media type.
[11:26] <stefan> How would I load my gnome desktop when i'm vncing to my ubuntu machine using tighvncserver?
[11:26] <Raovq> how would i go about checking codecs?
[11:26] <stefan> Right now all I see is a terminal window
[11:26] <cartur25> How do I know the refresh rate of my laptop monitor?
[11:26] <rjian> hmmm need help sharing internet connection please help me??
[11:26] <B4zzA> hmm
[11:26] <stefan> I see the questions/answers ratio here is not exactly optimal
[11:27] <B4zzA> ok that worked now ...strange, the nvidia-xconfig worked
[11:27] <iiiears> Raovq - It's pretty easy with xmms. not so easy with the others.
[11:27] <Elektrochelovek> rjian> masquerading: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <outETHinterface> -j MASQUERADE
[11:27] <Elektrochelovek> rjian> echo > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[11:27] <Mulder_> should really use snat these days instead of masquerade
[11:27] <Elektrochelovek> rjian> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[11:28] <Adrian_NZ> depends what kind of internet connection you have whether you use snat or masquerade doesn't it?
[11:28] <janebabra> I share my Internet connection with "D-Link Broadband router" its cheap and easy to use
[11:28] <B4zzA> thanks guys :)
[11:28] <Raovq> iiiears, it seems to be a couple of codecs, mp3, ogg ac3. is there a big group of codecs that could be my problem? ffmpeg? gstreamer?
[11:29] <PFA> anyone know how to get <>s around nicks in x-chat?
[11:29] <rjian> Elektrochelovek: please help me sharing my internet connection on network this is my first time using ubuntu?? how will i set it up?
[11:29] <bderrly> Raovq, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly i believe
[11:29] <Mulder_> Adrian_NZ, masquerade may have benefits for dynamic ip links, but i still use snat for my dialup
[11:29] <Selaiah> Hey can someone help me with the setup of my Wlan ? (on wpa2 with static ip) Here are my configs http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15150
[11:29] <Adrian_NZ> So no one has any idea about my NIC not working with the new kernel in dapper?
[11:30] <Mulder_> Adrian_NZ, dhcp error?
[11:30] <cartur25> Anyone have experience with 915resolution to increase resolution?
[11:30] <St_Iron> hello!
[11:30] <Adrian_NZ> nah, the NIC just doesn't send or receive any data
[11:30] <rjian> can anyone help me
[11:30] <rjian> how to share internet connection..
[11:30] <Mulder_> Adrian_NZ, errr.. what nic?
[11:30] <Adrian_NZ> its on a static ip, and it works fine when i boot with the old kernel
[11:31] <tom^> can anyone explain how i can edit the xorg.conf file when booting from the dapper drake live CD? i try to vi the file, but do not have permission to write it
[11:31] <alth> No one knows how I can clear my media library in Rockbox? Or how I can cleanly reinstall it, back to stock?
[11:31] <ompaul> rjian, have you looked at this yet  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkConfiguration - it was shown to you an hour ago
[11:31] <iiiears> Raovq - It is easy to install them difficult for me to check on them once installed. Installing competing codecs is something that have done more than once.
[11:31] <St_Iron> where can i see what kind of packages are on the dapper dvd?
[11:31] <janebabra> rjian : I use an D-Link broadband  for my Internetsharing router its easy and cheap
[11:31] <zcat[1] > Adrian_NZ: file a bug report (or see if anyone else has for your NIC and confirm it)
[11:31] <cartur25> How do I overwrite xorg.conf with xorg.conf_backup
[11:31] <Mulder_> denny crane time, afk.
[11:31] <alth> Er, I mean Rhythymbox that is, not Rockbox.
[11:32] <Raovq> bderrly, i have all the gstreamer0.8 plugins.
 sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:32] <Selaiah> Can someone help me with the setup of my Wlan ? (on wpa2 with static ip) Here are my configs http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15150
[11:32] <bderrly> Raovq, including ugly?
[11:32] <rjian> im connected direct to the internet
[11:32] <Selaiah> someone tell me why it wont connect please =D
[11:32] <cartur25> Adrian_NZ: How do I overwrite xorg.conf with xorg.conf_backup?
[11:32] <Raovq> bderrly, no, that one is not installed
[11:32] <bderrly> well, there is your mp3 right there
[11:33] <bderrly> cartur25, mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:33] <ompaul> rjian, how do you plan to do this, have the Internet --- ubuntu box  --- other software starved machines?
[11:33] <tom^> thanks Adrian_NZ - i'll reboot and see how it goes
[11:33] <ompaul> other, software starved but anyway
[11:33] <Raovq> bderrly, do i want it? or is that a source of common problems?
[11:34] <bderrly> Raovq, i thought you wanted mp3?  i've never had problems with the ugly modules
 You shouldn't have to reboot, just press ctrl + alt + backspace (i think) tp restart the xserver
[11:34] <cartur25> thanks bderrly
[11:34] <bderrly> np
[11:34] <rjian> i just want to share my connection to the workstation im the only ubuntu here others are windows..
[11:34] <St_Iron> which packgaes are on the dvd version of dapper? where can i see?
[11:34] <Elektrochelovek> tom^: try /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:34] <PFA> anyone know how to get <>s around nicks in x-chat?
[11:34] <tom^> Adrian_NZ - im running win at the moment - i haven't actualy got ubunto installed
[11:35] <bderrly> St_Iron, mount the dvd, then look through the directory structure, the packages will be under the pool directory
[11:35] <Raovq> ive never used ugly before. audio and video was working fine until yesterday
[11:35] <rixxon> PFA: #xchat :)
[11:35] <PFA> rixxon: been there, done that :(
[11:35] <tom^> i want to at least get it to boot as a live CD before i install
[11:35] <rixxon> heh
[11:35] <rixxon> PFA: google :D
[11:35] <St_Iron> bderrly: but i haven't download it yet! i download it if there are my requested packages on it
[11:35] <PFA> rixxon: if you dont' want to answer my question, ignore it instead of annoying me with useless pings
[11:36] <St_Iron> *haven't downloaded
[11:36] <ompaul> rjian, so you need two network cards and you need to set up the ubuntu box as a router and read the networking page I pointed you to, this is a little work for a lot of reward,
[11:36] <bderrly> St_Iron, you realize that it only has a selection of packages then after you install you have access to over 17,000 packages, right?
[11:36] <cartur25> What is the terminal code to backup my xorg.conf file
[11:36] <Equin> When I try to load up my gnome desktop in a VNC session by typing startx it says the server is already active for display 0, how would I fix that?
[11:36] <bderrly> cartur25, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bkp
[11:36] <rixxon> PFA: sorry, but really, you could probably find it on google
[11:36] <rjian> yup ive already have 2 network card...
[11:37] <rjian> how will i share the other internet card to the other
[11:37] <PFA> rixxon: thank you for your miraculous advice. 9_9
[11:37] <St_Iron> bderrly: but that is an offline machine where i want to install dapper
[11:37] <bderrly> St_Iron, if you really want to see the packages ftp or http to one of the archives and nose around the directory structure to see what they have
[11:37] <Raovq> this is confusing, i think ill upgrade to dapper tonight and hope it all works tommorow
[11:38] <St_Iron> bderrly: thanks!
[11:38] <bderrly> St_Iron, i'm also pretty sure there is a package list kept with the iso, but i'm not 100% sure about that
 cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[11:39] <ompaul> PFA, preferences interface input box is as close as your going to get - but it is not what you want, advise you chat with the xchat people :-)
[11:40] <PFA> ompaul: im in #xchat as we speak, no responses -- but thanks
[11:40] <rpedro> alth: look in /home/<username>/.rhythmbox
[11:41] <St_Iron> bderrly: i have found this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/dapper-dvd-i386.list ...
[11:41] <St_Iron> its's okay
[11:41] <bderrly> good
[11:42] <polok> can anybody recommend a decent sftp client that allows me to get entire directories? sftp doesn't like that idea :(
[11:42] <mjr> lftp perchance
[11:43] <mjr> or sshfs (fuse) mount :)
[11:43] <mjr> but off to work
[11:44] <Schalken> !cedega
[11:44] <ubotu> To install cedega please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[11:45] <digitalgalileo> If I wanted to remove gnome from a clean ubuntu install could I just do and apt-get remove gnome?
[11:46] <Matthewv> digitalgalileo, no... try a sudo apt-get remove gnome-common to get rid of most of gnome
[11:46] <Matthewv> the gnome package is just a metapackage, one that links to a lot of other packages to get them installed
[11:46] <senan> hallo
[11:46] <Klaidas> hello, I have this problem: after installing xubuntu-desktop (sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop), my default ubuntu uslpash changed to Xubuntu's usplash. I tried changing that via " sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so", but however, that only worked when shutting down. When I'm booting up, it still displays Xubuntu's usplash. Is there a way to change that?
[11:47] <senan> je tu kurva slovak
[11:47] <digitalgalileo> Matthewv, that will still keep all the xorg stuff right?
[11:47] <senan> moye byt aj madar wenger
[11:48] <Matthewv> Klaidas, try doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash-artwork
[11:48] <senan> ahoj ako sa dari
[11:48] <Madpilot> senan, English here, please.
[11:48] <Matthewv> digitalgalileo, yes it will keep it all
[11:48] <digitalgalileo> cool
[11:48] <krishna> can anyone tell me if Ubuntu SERVER is a separate distro?
[11:48] <digitalgalileo> thanks
[11:48] <senan> ok am andeten
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> Hi. Does anyone know the command line for the HAL Device Manager that you run via System --> Admin --> Device Manager? When it's running the system monitor reports it as hal-device-mana but I get command not known errors.
[11:49] <HedgeMage> krishna: no it isn't
[11:49] <Matthewv> krishna, no it isn't its just a separate install disc
[11:49] <Selaiah> Can someone help me with the setup of my Wlan ? (on wpa2 with static ip) Here are my configs http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15150
[11:49] <senan> aim search slovak chat
[11:50] <krishna> Matthew - how can I get the disk?
[11:50] <senan> bay
[11:50] <Matthewv> krishna download the iso and burn it as an iso to disc
[11:50] <Matthewv> http://www.ubuntu.com/download just select the server disc
[11:51] <Matthewv> sry, Klaidas try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash'
[11:51] <rjian> how will i share the other internet card to the other
[11:51] <Klaidas> oh
[11:51] <Klaidas> ok, the previous retuned an error, I was just going to paste it :)
[11:51] <Matthewv> yeah my mistake sry Klaidas
[11:52] <vio> what is "alternative" distro by the way
[11:52] <Klaidas> Did it have to output anything? :/
[11:53] <Matthewv> not necessarily.. did it?
[11:53] <Klaidas> no, it didn't. :)
[11:53] <Klaidas> ok, so time to test if it works :). Be right back
[11:53] <gizmo_the_great> anyone know what a UUID is in relation to an attached device?
[11:54] <BogoMIPS> Hi,All.
[11:54] <BogoMIPS> Yesterday I joined with a question about how to get Broadcom BCM4318 Wireless working on an Amilo A1655G laptop, using Ubuntu 6.06 - Dapper Drake.
[11:54] <BogoMIPS> I tried the native drivers, and I tried ndiswrapper.
[11:54] <BogoMIPS> Both approaches seemed to work, but still no connection.
[11:54] <BogoMIPS> Reading around, it seems that the wireless radio needs to be turned on. Normally, this is done with an extra button - right next to the laptop's power button.
[11:54] <BogoMIPS> This switch is not active under Ubuntu. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions as to how to activate wireless?
[11:56] <digitalgalileo> have you tried activating in in the network manager?
[11:56] <Matthewv> Klaidas, ??
[11:56] <Klaidas> Matthewv, that worked. Thank you :)
[11:56] <digitalgalileo> system>administration>network
[11:56] <Matthewv> no probs Klaidas
[11:56] <Matthewv> I'll bbl
[11:56] <tech_> how can i install ymessenger?
[11:57] <tech_> can u pls. help me?
[11:57] <BogoMIPS> digitalgalileo: Was your question addressed to me? Yes, I have tried activating under network manager. Everything seems to work, but I cannot get an IP address.
[11:57] <tech_> anyone?
[11:57] <digitalgalileo> yeas
[11:57] <digitalgalileo> hmm
[11:58] <tech_> it is possible to install ymessenger to ubuntu?
 The problem is activating the wireless hardware. In the Ubuntu guides I read, the author alluded to the problem by saying he had to press 'Fn-F2' under Windows to get it working. This doesn't work for me.
[11:59] <Frogzoo> BogoMIPS: tried google?
[11:59] <Madpilot> tech_, is that the Yahoo Messenger client? Try GAIM, it does YM
[12:01] <cartur25> Is GTF already installed in Dapper?
[12:01] <bderrly> cartur25, GTF?
[12:01] <cartur25> "The GTF XFree86 modeline generator is a utility for calculating VESA GTF modes."
[12:01] <cartur25> "This utility is already distributed with XFree86 4.3; if you have XFree86 4.3, then you probably already have gtf installed on your system"
[12:01] <Madpilot> cartur25, Ubuntu uses Xorg, not XFree86
[12:01] <cartur25> Does that include dapper?
[12:01] <kimo> after Nessuss closed the shop, any alternatives ?
[12:02] <cartur25> Oh ok
[12:02] <cartur25> Where can I download the binary package for GTF?
[12:03] <MooUK> Have you looked in the Dapper repositories?
[12:04] <Almindor> hello, how do I start up phpPgAdmin?
[12:04] <Schalken> is cedega in the repos?
[12:04] <Frogzoo> Schalken: no, but wine is...
[12:05] <BogoMIPS> Frogzoo: Indeed I have. That helped me narrow down the problem. I've found several other reports from people with the same problem, even the source to a kernel module which is supposed to activate the radio, but no solution.
[12:05] <canid> i used synaptic to install KDE desktop environment wont get past "loading modules" once the kernel is selected tho, any ideas?
[12:05] <Schalken> Frogzoo: k thnx
[12:05] <St_Iron> bye
[12:06] <cartur25> Super noob question: How do I check repositories?
[12:06] <ChefWill> !repositories
[12:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:07] <Madpilot> cartur25, use the Search button in Synaptic (or in Add/Remove Applications)
[12:07] <bartman_> Hi! I hhave a problem with tab focus in Firefox. Please read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190348
[12:09] <rpedro> bartman_: try disabling all your firefox extensions
[12:09] <cartur25> What would happen if I ran "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[12:10] <Ron_o> I lost sound when I upgraded to Dapper. My settings haven't changed. Under dmesg, it appears that my kernel is recognizing the sound card.
[12:10] <bliss_> hi
[12:10] <Ron_o> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15188
[12:10] <kholerabbi> Hello, I am trying to install Microsoft word and access from the office 2003 suite.. via wine, I doubleclick the setup.exe, setup loads, I type key, choose what I want to install, it begins installation (the bar dose not get anywhere) and then closes and reports an error.. any?
[12:10] <kholerabbi> any help?*
[12:10] <Ron_o> my bios recognizes it. I get a warning that it could be gstreamer, but I redownloaded gstreamer.
[12:10] <Ron_o> any pointers?
[12:11] <bliss_> is it ok to creste patition from live cd then install the 6.06 server rather than manual during install?
[12:11] <canid> stops  grapical display?
[12:11] <Frogzoo> !tell kholerabbi about appdb
[12:11] <canid> :p
[12:11] <gizmo_the_great> exit
[12:11] <ubushine> cartur25, your GUI would die
[12:11] <B4zzA> kholerabbi, what error?
[12:11] <Ron_o> kholerabbi, I'm going to guess that office can't be used under WINE..
[12:11] <Frogzoo> Ron_o: I'm pretty sure it can...
[12:12] <Ron_o> but I've rarely used WINE so I'm not the best advisor on it.
[12:12] <B4zzA> hmm what about Crossover Office
[12:12] <Ron_o> that would surprise me Frogzoo.
[12:12] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: it will be dcom98 or some such thing needs installing
[12:12] <Adrian_NZ> cartur25: Thanks for pointing out the bug report page, i found a fix for my NIC troubles!
[12:12] <Frogzoo> !tell Ron_o about appdb
[12:12] <kholerabbi> Hmmm... I heard it could be.. I'll just check the error text (I think it was just an internal error, generally saying it couldn't install)
[12:12] <kholerabbi> dcom98??
[12:12] <Frogzoo> B4zzA: crossover office IS wine
[12:12] <rpedro> !tell kholerabbi about crossover office
[12:13] <bartman_> rpedro, apparently TabBrowser Preferences were causing this. Thank you!
[12:13] <Frogzoo> (but with a funky gui)
[12:13] <rpedro> bartman_: just a tip: try tab mix plus instead
[12:13] <twb> I've got an existing install, I want to add the install CD to its sources.list.
[12:13] <twb> How can I do that?
[12:14] <ciruzzo> hi
[12:14] <Ron_o> twb, it's on the wiki..
[12:14] <Ron_o> I did it.
[12:14] <ciruzzo> how can I use .emulecollection files with amule? pls help me
[12:14] <Frogzoo> twb: option in synaptic to show disabled repos - enable, then check the cd repo
[12:14] <bartman_> rpedro, I'll check it out, thanks again!
[12:14] <bliss_> is it ok to partition disk from live cd rather do a maual on install
[12:14] <kholerabbi> ..yeah just a general error
[12:14] <twb> Ron_o: heh, my boss' nick is "Ron", I freaked out a little there.
[12:14] <Ron_o> twb, check the ubuntu wiki. I swear it's there.
 I don't see why that would be a problem (although i could be wrong)
[12:15] <twb> It appears that "apt-cdrom add" works.
[12:15] <Ron_o> yah, it's a popular nick I hear. :)
[12:15] <twb> Ron_o: he also has the same weird capitalization as you.
[12:16] <Ron_o> bliss_, be more specific.
[12:16] <bliss_> Adrian_MZ  ok thanks
[12:16] <Ron_o> bliss, you could use the paritioner on Live, sure.
[12:16] <Ron_o> partitioning is partitioning.
[12:16] <twb> Happiness is a warm balloon..
[12:16] <jammer> hi to all
[12:17] <iiiears> Welcome jammer
[12:17] <jammer> thanks a lot
[12:17] <cyne> how do i manage wifi connections in ubuntu?
[12:17] <jammer> May I ask some question?
[12:17] <iiiears> !wifi
[12:17] <ubotu> I heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:17] <cyne> nice
[12:17] <jammer> ehhehe
[12:17] <bliss_> Ron_o OK  the thing is i can use the gparted gui in live cd i would feel better want to do 10 gigs root 1gb swap and the rest on /home
[12:17] <jammer> !vlc
[12:17] <ubotu> well, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[12:17] <iiiears> !ndiswrapper
[12:17] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:18] <bartman_> !wpa
[12:19] <jammer> I need to know in wich way I can setup a VideoStreaming Server under my new Fantastic Ububtu 6.06
[12:19] <jammer> someone has ideas?
[12:19] <Frogzoo> jammer: google always has ideas...
[12:20] <jammer> I've only a PC, linksys 100Mbps/54Mbps (wifi) router, and 3 SetTop Box
[12:20] <r0xoR> jammer: live-video streaming or pre-recorded-video streaming?
[12:20] <jammer> do youthink google?
[12:20] <Ron_o> bliss, do it..
[12:20] <jammer> pre recorded
[12:20] <Ron_o> 10gigs root is good.
[12:20] <r0xoR> jammer: ffmpeg
[12:20] <Ron_o> that should be plenty
[12:20] <jammer> mmm
[12:20] <bliss_> Ron_o is this sign / for root and this sign for home /home?
[12:20] <jammer> let me take a look
[12:21] <Ron_o> yes..
[12:21] <jammer> I think that VLC is better
[12:21] <r0xoR> bliss_, Ron_o, the installer says it "needs" 2G
[12:21] <r0xoR> personally i gave mine 20G
[12:21] <Ron_o> that's t begin with r0xoR hehe.
[12:21] <jammer> but ffmpeg is a Decoder only
[12:22] <bliss_> Ron_o; ok thanks
[12:22] <Ron_o> it's great to separate /home from everything else. It can save your arse I hear.
[12:22] <Ron_o> I didn'
[12:22] <Ron_o> I didn't have enough space.
[12:22] <jammer> but I want to setup a box with a TV card that's capable to stream DivX (H264) and TV stream... for You is possible to do?
[12:23] <r0xoR> jammer: do you have mnoey to buy a card?
[12:23] <bananafly> how do i make gparted just write the partition to the table, without reformatting and removing data?
[12:24] <jammer> No I've it on an old Win PC
[12:24] <jammer> :D
[12:24] <DarkLegacy> Happy Satan Day!
[12:24] <jammer> Azz
[12:24] <jammer> :D
[12:24] <r0xoR> jammer: you need a way to get the video into your old Win PC
[12:24] <r0xoR> jammer: that's where the video card comes in
[12:24] <Frogzoo> Ron_o: having /home on a separate partition allows you to reinstall the OS without having to touch your data
[12:24] <bananafly> DarkLegacy; also known as Sweden's national day
[12:24] <r0xoR> jammer: do you have a video card... in particular one that'll handle video input?
[12:25] <Ron_o> so I hear Frogzoo ..
[12:25] <iiiears> bananafly - I don't know how to make gparted do that but the direct copy command "dd" command will do it from the command line.
[12:25] <jammer> R0x0r Yes I've the card (Pinnacle PCTV) into my box and has installed Video4Linux... and all is ok
[12:25] <bananafly> iiiears, how?
[12:25] <jammer> R0x0r My card supports MPEG Coding
[12:25] <Frogzoo> kinema: google might know...
[12:26] <Ron_o> google knows all.
[12:26] <jammer> But I need an interface and an engine to select and streams divx and TV
[12:26] <Ron_o> that's a good slogan. But it's a scary one too.
[12:26] <jammer> ok
[12:26] <Frogzoo> what if google & ubotu had children    o_O
[12:26] <kinema> Frogzoo: i wasn't able to find one via google so i decided to ask here.
[12:29] <DarkLegacy> Guys, I'm thinking of running Dapper on VMWARE
[12:29] <DarkLegacy> Should I?
[12:29] <DarkLegacy> I've got a laptop with Dapper but the god damn ethernet connection doesn't work
[12:30] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: well you'll need to look into compiling a kernel module for it
[12:31] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: you sure the kernel doesn't recognise it?
 What kind of ethernet chipset does your laptop have?
[12:31] <iiiears> Frogzoo - What is the command to see if a module is loaded?
[12:31] <DarkLegacy> Adrian_NZ, it recognizes the PCMCIA card but it can't get a connection to the DHCP server set up on my router
[12:31] <Frogzoo> iiiears: lsmod |grep module_name
[12:31] <DarkLegacy> sudo dhclient eth0 reveals "DHCPDISCOVER" 10 times, and "NO DHCPOFFERS FOUND"
[12:32] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: have you tried experimenting with autonegotiate/speed/duplex setting with mii-tool?
[12:32] <DarkLegacy> I'm guessing it's a driver issue because the PCMCIA card works in Windows 2000 as does the router work with another version of Dapper I had installed on my machine (Windows != Linux I know)
[12:32] <DarkLegacy> Frogzoo, no I haven't
[12:32] <DarkLegacy> How do I launch mii-tool?
[12:32] <DarkLegacy> sudo apt-get mii-tool?
 I've heard of that bug before, check the bug report page
[12:33] <Subhuman> DarkLegacy, that would install it.
[12:33] <DarkLegacy> I assume it's not installed by default, right?
[12:33] <Subhuman> i dunno, no harm in trying to install it?
[12:33] <DarkLegacy> Adrian_NZ can I get a link to the bug report page?
[12:33] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: 'sudo apt-get install net-tools'
[12:34] <DarkLegacy> Thanks, Frogzoo
[12:34] <DarkLegacy> See, I knew I had to install something
[12:34] <iiiears> Frogzoo - Thanks    (just tried it without the grep command. curiousity got the best of me and i nearly went blind from all the text that flew by.)
[12:34] <Subhuman> DarkLegacy, ALT+F2 and type "bug-buddy" that it the bug reporting tool
[12:34] <DarkLegacy> There's no 'simple' solution in Linux, it's either compilable, installable, or downloadable
[12:34] <DarkLegacy> Anyway, booting laptop give me a min
 https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[12:35] <DarkLegacy> I found the link on Google exactly 15 seconds before you pasted that link
[12:35] <Dimitris> Well i dont know what i did but now nautilus doen't show tabs or the tree view to the right and opens each folder in a new window and is very annoying. How do i correct this and return it to its original state?
[12:35] <bananafly> What's the easiest way to rewrite the partition table without formatting the new partition?
[12:35] <twb> Another dumb question: how do I tell aptitude that extra repos' are secure?
[12:35] <twb> i.e. add them to /etc/apt/*.gpg
[12:35] <Frogzoo> bananafly: fdisk   (imo)
[12:36] <Frogzoo> bananafly: though some might argue gparted
[12:37] <iiiears> Isn't it amazing that for years as windows users we never even saw a an md5sum or gpg sig. - Windows is amazingly insecure.
[12:37] <DarkMageZ> iiiears, it wasn't until i started getting into linux that i knew what those were :)
[12:37] <DarkLegacy> Ok, I'm reading that on the bug page, people have got PCMCIA to work by ejecting, re-inserting the card every boot
[12:37] <Frogzoo> iiiears: DarkLegacy  cygwin ....
[12:38] <Ron_o> nahh, ever since large iso's did I get to know of md5sum. But windows has had PGP for years.
[12:38] <iiiears> cygwin is good. vmware is better.
[12:38] <Frogzoo> iiiears: I only use it for md5sum ;)
[12:38] <void^> the strangest thing is how people are worried about having their email read etc., when encrypting mail has been one of the easiest things to do for years now.
[12:38] <DarkLegacy> BitTorrent is the best for large ISOs. It has built in Md5 constant checking
[12:38] <Ron_o> the thing is in Windows some people were actually selling apps for md5sum. What surprised me was that md5sum was a part of computer for decades for free.
[12:39] <iiiears> Frogzoo Filealyzer is free and a right click away to check any file.
[12:39] <DarkLegacy> Ok, laptop boot completed
[12:39] <Frogzoo> iiiears: well I deleted my doze partition when I ran out of space on my /pr0n partition...
[12:39] <DarkLegacy> Frogzoo, net-tools already installed
[12:40] <DarkLegacy> sudo mii-tool ?
[12:40] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: yup
[12:40] <DarkLegacy> No MII interfaces found.
[12:40] <ollo82> whats the prefferred method to compile as example ndiswrapper into an ubuntu?
[12:40] <ollo82> make deb or checkinstall or what?
[12:40] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: damn, try 'sudo ethtool eth0'  (or whatever)
[12:41] <DarkLegacy> k
[12:41] <DarkLegacy> lol
[12:41] <iiiears> Frogzoo - I still need a free app for gpg sigs in windows. and would really like a way to md5 sum all the files in any directory to compare against a list. virus infections are sneaky enough to bypass them sometimes. attaching to explorer. but still it would be better than nothing.
[12:41] <DarkLegacy> sudo ethtool
[12:41] <DarkLegacy> lmao
[12:41] <DarkLegacy> Ack, no such device
[12:41] <DarkLegacy> gotta re-insert PCMCIA card
[12:42] <thedailygrind> Just installed Ubuntu today. Looks awesome but none of the package management or update stuff seems to be working.
[12:42] <Subhuman> iiiears, there are free win apps to gen. md5 sums for all files i na directory
[12:42] <DarkLegacy> Ok, re-inserted.. eth0 is there.
[12:42] <iiiears> Doh! - Guess i could use a bootable CD  - jeez
[12:42] <Subhuman> thedailygrind, if you run "sudo apt-get update" from terminal (applications/accesories/terminal) what do u get?
[12:42] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: mii-tool
[12:42] <DarkLegacy> Ok
[12:42] <DarkLegacy> Did it already
[12:43] <iiiears> Subhuman - Really?
[12:43] <thedailygrind> a whole lot of Connection falied strings
[12:43] <DarkLegacy> eth0: Negotitated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
[12:43] <thedailygrind> *failed
[12:43] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: k, that sound right?
[12:43] <Subhuman> iiiears, yes of course, how would u check an md5 in windows otherwise?
[12:43] <DarkLegacy> What sounds right?
 Do you have a working connection to the internet?
[12:43] <DarkLegacy> Xircom RealPort Ethernet 10/100+Modem 56 GlobalACCESS Adapter (REM56G-100)
[12:43] <Frogzoo> 100baseT Full Duplex ?
[12:44] <thedailygrind> im using it at the moment
[12:44] <DarkLegacy> I have no idea Frogzoo
[12:44] <iiiears> Subhuman - I just haven't found one to md5sum directories.
[12:44] <Subhuman> iiiears, http://www.brandonstaggs.com/filecheckmd5.html
[12:44] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: you just plug straight into the modem? no hub
[12:44] <thedailygrind> i can browse to the directories it says it can't find using firefox
[12:44] <Subhuman> that does directories recursively and then can be checked at a later date.
[12:44] <iiiears> Subhuman - Is it open source?
[12:44] <Subhuman> no
[12:44] <exhale> have they got flashplayer working for amd64 now?
[12:44] <Subhuman> iiiears, this too http://www.md5summer.org/
[12:44] <LasseL> anyone tried ripping dvd's on dapper?
[12:44] <DarkLegacy> Laptop -> Ethernet Router -> Ethernet Cable Modem
[12:45] <Subhuman> iiiears, not many win apps are open source.
[12:45] <Mulder_> exhale, it works if you do a 32bit chroot shell for firefox
[12:45] <visik7> how can I install xen in ubuntu ?
[12:45] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: & dhcp has worked from the router previously?
[12:45] <iiiears> Subhuman:  Nice links. Much Appreciated - Thank You.
[12:46] <visik7> !xen
[12:46] <ubotu> it has been said that xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .
[12:46] <DarkLegacy> DHCP works from router on my PC Dapper install.
[12:46] <LasseL> !drip
[12:46] <ubotu> LasseL: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:46] <LasseL> !dvdrip
[12:46] <ubotu> LasseL: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
 what error message are you getting exactly?
[12:46] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: ok, so just to be sure try 'sudo dhclient eth0' again..
[12:46] <DarkMageZ> exhale, you 64-bit users will have flash player 9 in early 2007 :)
[12:46] <exhale> lol
[12:47] <exhale> how hard can it be to convert a little app
[12:47] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: oh - first do 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up'
[12:47] <janebabra> like to install "lamp-server" on my desktop-ubuntu 6.06 LTS - has anybody tried
[12:47] <DarkLegacy> lol
[12:47] <tom^> by default, is there an irc client availible in ubuntu?
[12:47] <DarkMageZ> exhale, it's adobe :P they have no skillz
[12:47] <exhale> they are fools
[12:47] <thedailygrind> Anyone have any ideas why apt-get cant connect to anything but I can browse to the same locations using firefox?
[12:47] <LasseL> tom^, I don't think so
[12:47] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: please pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[12:47] <tom^> i'm having X issues, so a command line irc client would be really handy
[12:47] <exhale> lol xchat-gnome is horrid
[12:47] <DarkMageZ> exhale, don't worry, you will get it an hour after the 32-bit users will tho :)
[12:48] <exhale> tom^ irssi
[12:48] <DarkLegacy> Frogzoo, can't paste anything there's no internet connection on my laptop
[12:48] <LasseL> tom^, apt-get instal irssi
 if we could see the error message we may be able to help
[12:48] <DarkMageZ> exhale, if you wish to keep track of progress, then visit http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[12:48] <tom^> cool, thanks
[12:48] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: ifconfig |grep eth0    gives?
[12:48] <DarkLegacy> hold
[12:48] <thedailygrind> Err http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg
[12:48] <thedailygrind>   Connection failed
[12:48] <thedailygrind> Err http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
[12:48] <thedailygrind>   Connection failed
[12:48] <thedailygrind> Err http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports Release.gpg
[12:48] <thedailygrind>   Connection failed
[12:48] <thedailygrind> Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release
[12:48] <thedailygrind> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg
[12:48] <thedailygrind>   Connection failed [IP: 85.133.25.7 80] 
[12:48] <DarkLegacy> Eth0
[12:48] <thedailygrind> etc ....
[12:48] <Frogzoo> thedailygrind: bad spam :P
[12:48] <Subhuman> !paste
[12:48] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:49] <DarkLegacy> Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr: 00:10:A4:F2:2B:98
[12:49] <Subhuman> thedailygrind, so internet works but repos dont?
[12:49] <Captain-Fungi> thedailygrind: have you edited /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:49] <thedailygrind> subhuman. exactly
[12:49] <Captain-Fungi> ?
[12:49] <Subhuman> thedailygrind, use a different source for downloads
[12:49] <Frogzoo> DarkLegacy: & still 'sudo dhclient eth0'   no dice?
[12:49] <Subhuman> !tell thedailygrind about repos
[12:49] <DarkLegacy> hold
 do you connect through a proxy server?
[12:50] <DarkLegacy> DHCPDISCOVER on 255.255.255.255 as always
[12:50] <workbean> yeah, I had problems with my proxy server too. Dansguardian (my web filter) was blocking a few files.
[12:50] <DarkLegacy> Like 10 times, then no DCHPOFFER found
[12:50] <Mulder_> DarkLegacy, ooh. i have a thread that will interes tyou
[12:50] <DarkLegacy> Ok
[12:51] <DarkLegacy> Hand it to me, Mulder (X-files)
[12:51] <exhale> what can one do if i forget my freenode password?
[12:51] <Mulder_> DarkLegacy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182618&page=2&highlight=internet+connection
[12:51] <Mulder_> DarkLegacy, very very commonly reported problem. something wrt dhcp got broke from breezy to dapper
[12:51] <atholas> Hi. I've made the mistake of deleting ~/.eclipse. Starting eclipse up again regenerates ~/.eclipse but not ~/.eclipse/eclipserc. How can I create eclipserc?
[12:51] <pjo> Hello !  anone is using wingrub here ?
[12:51] <Subhuman> thedailygrind, push ALT+F2 and type "gksudo gedit /etc/apt./sources.list" and remove what you have a replace it with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[12:52] <Subhuman> thedailygrind, whats in the link, not the actual link :D
[12:52] <r0xoR> i reset my system clock because it was fast but now i get an error saying "time stamp too far in the future"
[12:52] <r0xoR> how can i change that?
[12:52] <DarkLegacy> Mulder, that's pretty helpful.
[12:52] <DarkLegacy> I think I can manage to get it working with DHCP, just give me time.
[12:52] <DarkLegacy> ;)
[12:53] <janebabra> has anybody experiense with LAMP server on a Desktop Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[12:53] <pjo> anyone using GRUB here ?
[12:53] <Subhuman> janebabra, i have some LAMP experience, why?
[12:53] <janebabra> i like to install it and dont no how
[12:54] <Mulder_> DarkLegacy, if you find one of those solutions work (there were a few suggested on that forum) can you either post your results / success to the thread, or if you get it done while i'm still online today, can yo utell me? i hav ea friend who is having issues withdhcp too after a dapper upgrade
[12:56] <DarkLegacy> Mulder, I'm going to be online all day.
[12:56] <DarkLegacy> I slept for six hours, defragmented brain.
[12:56] <iiiears> janebabra:  There are some good meta-package in synaptic. with the ubuntu gauruntee of quality symbol next to that i have been itching to try a package made by seveas here. http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:57] <suntime> hi
[12:57] <thedailygrind> changed /etc/apt/sources.list file to match that at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 however the problem of the connection failing still exists
[12:57] <iiiears> seveas has spent hundreds (thousands?) of hours helping here.
[12:58] <MistaED> hey what does ubuntu use to configure xorg when installing it?
[12:58] <suntime> does anyone have any experience about installing snd-hda-intel on 6.06?
[12:58] <Seveas> iiiears, millions
[12:58] <suntime> i can't make it work
[12:58] <bananafly> fdisk says my partitions are not in the correct order, how do I correct that?
[12:58] <iiiears> MistaED: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   didn't do it for you?
[12:59] <MistaED> iiiears: that way is manual compared
[12:59] <edneymatias> hi!
[12:59] <iiiears> seveas I stand corrected. - wide grin
[12:59] <[zero] > Has anyone made a media program to connect to xbox360, for streaming music like windows media connect?
[12:59] <kholerabbi> read this (http://oliphuant.blogspot.com/) blog about a suggestion for an opensource language learning program - sound, pictures, edutainment. Please!
[12:59] <janebabra> iiiears: thanks for the link - but in synaptic i dont see anything after "lamp" search
[01:00] <arnau> I have kubuntu dapper but I have no sound in mozilla-thunderbird. All other applications as firefox, xine, etc., work OK. Somebody knows how to fix it?
[01:01] <alumno> lokas
[01:01] <alumno> ola
[01:01] <DarkMageZ> arnau, are you refering to sound from flash?
[01:01] <Beta_M> is there a skype client for ubuntu/gnu/linux
[01:02] <mwe_> !skype
[01:02] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[01:02] <Frogzoo> Beta_M: yes, but try Ekiga instead
[01:02] <exhale> !gnome
[01:02] <KenSentMe> iiiears Frogzoo but with Ekiga you can't call to Skype users, is it?
[01:02] <Beta_M> Frogzoo: i must contact somebody using skype, i can't use another system
[01:02] <MistaED> would skype under wine be better than the linux client?
[01:02] <creative83> Hello everybody. I have a problem with the hostap driver and a prism2 chip card. Sometimes after reboot, only the testing device wifi0 appears but not wlan0. If I restart, the correct device wlan0 is available. Any clues?
[01:02] <KenSentMe> iiiears sorry, this meesage was not for you
[01:02] <arnau> DarkMageZ: No. I'm trying to reproduce a sound when a new mail arrives.
[01:02] <maria> ola
[01:02] <maria> ola
[01:03] <apokryphos> hi
[01:03] <akay> anybody can help me?
[01:03] <akay> how to install VHCS on ubuntu dapper?
[01:04] <akay> VHCS=virtual hosting control system
[01:05] <KenSentMe> akay: what about webmin, or is that a stupid answer?
[01:05] <capitanplaneta> !compiz
[01:05] <ubotu> Compiz is a compositing manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. See http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz -- Installation howto's:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.
[01:05] <akay> ken sent me: can u give me the web of webmin
[01:05] <iiiears> seveas Is meta-ul-server-gui the package a user would want to add a server to Ubuntu desktop Linux?
[01:06] <Seveas> iiiears, no idea, never looked at that package - I'd suggest ubuntu-desktop
[01:06] <miranda82> hello, everyone
[01:06] <kbrooks_> Seveas: "a server".
[01:06] <KenSentMe> akay webmin.com
[01:06] <kbrooks_> Seveas: he wants to know how to add a server to the Ubuntu desktop
[01:07] <Seveas> ah, other way around hehe
[01:07] <iiiears> seveas - So install the server then add the ubuntu-desktop package? Dunno trying to answer an earlier question
[01:07] <Seveas> in that case: install the server programs you want...
[01:07] <cyne> how do i get the process list in ubuntu gui?
[01:07] <Seveas> and maybe the server kernel
[01:07] <miranda82> I see in the hour & date Thursday June of 6, instead of Thursday & of June, anyone knows how to solve that?
[01:07] <ompaul> iiiears, you can
[01:08] <iiiears> Server version of Ubuntu? L.A.M.P. yes?
[01:08] <ompaul> iiiears, that would work also
[01:08] <ompaul> iiiears, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge
[01:08] <DarkLegacy_> Does anybody know what Dynamic Routing does on a router?
[01:08] <ompaul> iiiears, it kind of covers what your talking about
[01:09] <Frogzoo> Seveas: might I suggest that make mozilla-acroread dependent on the acroread-plugins pkg? just a suggestion
[01:09] <ompaul> iiiears, its overly verbose and I should edit it
[01:09] <iiiears> ompaul - ah, Okay. - ( i use a bootable CD for a few pages. - less painful.)
[01:09] <cyne> my ubuntu has locked up, how do access the task list?
[01:09] <iiiears> ompaul - Thank You. I have the answer for the next person.
[01:10] <akay> ken sent me: vhcs has cleaner interface than webmin and have moru function -------> VHCS.net
[01:11] <akay> ken sent me: vhcs has cleaner interface than webmin and have more function -------> VHCS.net
[01:11] <miranda82> I see in the hour and date Thursday June of 6, instead of Thursday 6 of June, anyone knows how to solve that?
[01:11] <akay> ken sent me: anyway thanks for ur info
[01:11] <akay> anybody know how to install VHCS on dapper
[01:13] <akay> anybody know how to install VHCS on dapper
[01:13] <[zero] > I just burnt a disc, but now my drive that it copied from wont open?! :S
[01:13] <KenSentMe> akay have you downloaded the package and tried to install it?
[01:14] <Frogzoo> [zero] : you need to unmount the disk, or just 'eject'
[01:14] <akay> kensentme: i don't want to download it
[01:14] <[zero] > thankx Frogzoo
[01:14] <akay> kensentme: i've already look at screenshot & using demo
[01:14] <iiiears> !ubotu l.a.m.p. is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP  one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or in 6.06 (Dapper Drake) you have the option of choosing to install a LAMP setup at the inital Ubuntu installation screen.
[01:14] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[01:15] <akay> anybody know how to install VHCS on dapper?
[01:16] <Mulder> akay, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25722
[01:16] <KenSentMe> akay but you can just download the package, unpack it, and then run a installer or something. Have you tried that?
[01:16] <tom^> i'm trying to run the ubuntu dapper drake live CD, but can't start X. I have a Radeon x800 GTO, with a 17" DVI LCD and an old 17" CRT.
[01:16] <orinoco> hi there
[01:16] <orinoco> anyone with gmail?
[01:16] <tom^> i'm getting some error about no display found
[01:16] <orinoco> that has recieved an strange mail with numbers?
[01:17] <orinoco> with his own mail as sender
[01:17] <tom^> i have tried editing the xorg.conf to use vesa instead of ati, but when i do startx both monitors go to sleep and the computer hangs
[01:17] <Frogzoo> tom^: I'm guessing you'll need horizsync & vertrefresh in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get the monitor to play nice
[01:17] <akay> kensentme: the installer only support breezy version and debian sarge
[01:17] <tom^> this is the amd64 versioon too
[01:17] <Jimmey__> tom^, do you have a prompt?
[01:18] <Mulder> tom^: i got one, but it was to my pop account rather than gmail
[01:18] <tom^> i'm in win at the moment cos i had issues using irssi from the prompt
[01:18] <ollo82> whats the prefferred method to compile as example ndiswrapper into an ubuntu?
[01:18] <supaja> ese pau
[01:18] <Frogzoo> !es
[01:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:19] <orinoco> tom^,  bitchx
[01:19] <supaja> eiiiiii
[01:19] <supaja> q pasaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:19] <supaja> kjlhvckjdsf
[01:19] <supaja> fajdaobv
[01:19] <supaja> fnvnafv
[01:19] <Frogzoo> !ops
[01:19] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[01:19] <tom^> Frogzoo - any suggestions as to what horizsync & vertrefresh settings might be a good starting point?
[01:19] <orinoco> supaja, no hagas el tonto
[01:19] <Mulder> orinoco, i got one but not to gmail. it originated from Received: from MAGDA.org (host-ip6-14.crowley.pl [85.128.14.6] )
[01:20] <Frogzoo> thx Seveas
[01:20] <Seveas> gnomefreak_away, too slow ;)
[01:20] <gnomefreak_away> i see
[01:20] <rob> swamped
[01:20] <orinoco> Mulder, i mean that in the sender it is shown your own address
[01:20] <Mulder> orinoco, yes.
[01:20] <gnomefreak> ;)
[01:20] <orinoco> it has happened to a friend of min also
[01:20] <orinoco> strange isn't it?
[01:20] <iiiears> What happened to ubotu?
[01:20] <rob> iiiears, sleeping
[01:20] <kholerabbi> I've installed tor, but websites can still get my ip.. How can I stop that?
[01:21] <Mulder> orinoco, the subject heading for mine was 455. in the body it was a weird number 5556
[01:21] <rob> he has worked hard today
[01:21] <Beta_M> kholerabbi: did you set up a proxy to use tor?
[01:21] <iiiears> Ah. Do electric channel bots dream?
[01:21] <Frogzoo> !botsnack
[01:21] <ubotu> :)
[01:21] <orinoco> just like me mu
[01:21] <orinoco> Mulder,  --^
[01:21] <gnomefreak> !goodmorning
[01:21] <gnomefreak> ;)
[01:21] <iiiears> j/k
[01:21] <rob> electric sheep maybe?
[01:21] <Mulder> orinoco, sounds very suspicious
[01:21] <apokryphos> :P
[01:22] <orinoco> a friend of mine has said that it is a virus because of the day
[01:22] <Mulder> orinoco, i guess that's my queue to reinstall windows? heh
[01:22] <rob> automatrix?
[01:22] <Beta_M> i have a a problem with the volume of my mic it works perfectly under windows, but in ubuntu i can barely hear anything unless i shove mic in my throat
[01:22] <orinoco> but the problem is that im using linux
[01:22] <kholerabbi> Beta_M: I just aptitude install it, what else should I do?
[01:22] <Mulder> orinoco, hmm yeah bizzare
[01:22] <RandolphCarter> Mulder: if it came from a machine called crowley, it could well be a joke
[01:23] <Mulder> RandolphCarter, crowley? joke? how do you figure?
[01:23] <Beta_M> kholerabbi: i'm not sure how it works under linux, i've only installed it in windows before, but you need another programme to be a proxy
[01:23] <pauet> yese xisco
[01:23] <Beta_M> try to read the documentation on tor.eff.org
[01:23] <kholerabbi> cheers
[01:23] <RandolphCarter> Mulder: wiki Aleister Crowley
[01:23] <Mulder> alrighty
[01:24] <pauet> olaa
[01:24] <pauet> ola
[01:24] <Jimmey__> !es
[01:24] <KenSentMe> hi
[01:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:24] <Mulder> "Aleister Crowley, born Edward Alexander Crowley (12 October 1875  1 December 1947) was an occultist, prolific writer, mystic, hedonist, and sexual revolutionary."
[01:24] <Mulder> i still dont understand
[01:24] <pauet> alguien habla espaol
[01:24] <RandolphCarter> given the date too?
[01:24] <apokryphos> !es
[01:24] <orinoco> RandolphCarter, mine comes from Received: from HP78Q.org ([210.243.198.148] )
[01:24] <orinoco>         by mx.gmail.com with SMTP id j7si1307950nzd.2006.06.05.18.56.27;
[01:24] <orinoco>         Mon, 05 Jun 2006 18:56:29 -0700 (PDT)
[01:24] <Jimmey__> XoD What the fudge is a sexual revolutionary!?
[01:24] <Jimmey__> !paste
[01:24] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[01:25] <pauet> ds
[01:25] <pauet> f
[01:25] <pauet> ds
[01:25] <pauet> ds
[01:25] <pauet> ds
[01:25] <pauet> a
[01:25] <orinoco> Jimmey__, it was only 2 lines
[01:25] <pauet> das
[01:25] <orinoco> ....
[01:25] <pauet> dkjaskjgak
[01:25] <Frogzoo> Jimmey__: wouldn't you like to know...
[01:25] <supaja> puto pau
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> orinoco: hmm, that scuppers that - odd messages from a machine called Crowley on 6/6/6 would've been a cute joke though
[01:25] <supaja> dhbmnldjd
[01:25] <supaja> kjhn
[01:25] <supaja> ndh
[01:25] <supaja> xswhnsdhn
[01:25] <supaja> hn
[01:25] <supaja> hn
[01:25] <supaja> hn
[01:25] <orinoco> supaja, porfavor si quieres hablar espaol ves a ubuntu-es
[01:25] <supaja> nh
[01:25] <orinoco> those spanish people are crazy
[01:25] <Mulder> RandolphCarter, well doesnt that juts imply the guy's dead?
[01:25] <KenSentMe> orinoco always the spanish
[01:25] <iiiears> I love this channel.  - nice catch apokryphos
[01:26] <Beta_M> !audio
[01:26] <ubotu> Beta_M: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:26] <orinoco> It is just so strange
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> the wiki page Mulder?  nah, he was an occultist, researched demonology etc.
[01:26] <Beta_M> !audio recording
[01:26] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Beta_M
[01:26] <freal> hi guys
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> so 6/6/6 would be fitting
[01:26] <orinoco> is the world going to end today?
[01:26] <Mulder> RandolphCarter, oh doh
[01:26] <Jimmey__> Beta_M, try /msg the bot instead
[01:27] <orinoco> how is it in australia?
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> no replies, they're already dead :( quick, setup tripwires for the horsemen!
[01:27] <Beta_M> Jimmey__: it is no use, i don't know what to tell it
[01:27] <Mulder> RandolphCarter, so isp admins playing a joke on me perhaps?
[01:27] <paines> hi
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> Mulder: that would be my guess
[01:27] <Jimmey__> Beta_M, try sound
[01:27] <shriphani> i got a few problems guys
[01:27] <Mulder> RandolphCarter, hah awesome
[01:27] <shriphani> it is when i run apt-get
[01:28] <Frogzoo> !enter
[01:28] <shriphani> do i paste it in pastebin ?
[01:28] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[01:28] <paines> is it possible to apt-get install specific versions of a package ?
[01:28] <orinoco> shriphani, better
[01:28] <shriphani> ok orinoco
[01:28] <Frogzoo> paines: in synaptic, use lock version
[01:28] <Jimmey__> paines: it will install the version that's in the repository
[01:28] <orinoco> Frogzoo, do you know how to speak without !
[01:28] <Frogzoo> orinoco: just lazy dude
[01:28] <orinoco> paines, you can
[01:29] <orinoco> if there is two versions of the package in the repository
[01:29] <Beta_M> i have 2 problems, i don't seem to find the correct bot command... my recording sound is way too low under ubuntu, and i need to know how to set up a web cam
[01:30] <KenSentMe> does anyone know how i can automaticly add a : or , after a username in BitchX irc chat. Like in Xchat?
[01:30] <apokryphos> orinoco: man apt-get
[01:30] <Crux> Hi there
[01:30] <paines> i see. thanks guys
[01:30] <orinoco> KenSentMe, you can't
[01:30] <orinoco> apokryphos, what?
[01:30] <shriphani> orinoco, http://pastebin.com/762128
[01:30] <orinoco> :P
[01:30] <Crux> Hey am a newbie guide me to change the video resolution
[01:30] <KenSentMe> orinoco that's lame
[01:31] <ompaul> !resolution
[01:31] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:31] <Frogzoo> !tell Crux about fixres
[01:31] <apokryphos> orinoco: read the man page
[01:31] <orinoco> apokryphos, why ?
[01:31] <Crux> ok thanks ill be back with the rusult
[01:32] <Jimmey__> shriphani: I think that you need a fixed sources.list
[01:32] <apokryphos> orinoco: heh, paines was the one asking the question
[01:32] <Jimmey__> shriphani: Yours looks broken
[01:32] <orinoco> KenSentMe, bitchx is special, i remember trying to do the same an failing, and turning back to xchat
[01:32] <shriphani> yes :(
[01:32] <shriphani> i have too many problems
[01:32] <orinoco> ;D apokryphos
[01:32] <shriphani> i used source-o-matic
[01:32] <orinoco> shriphani, search for source-o-matic in google
[01:32] <orinoco> and get a new sources.list
[01:32] <KenSentMe> orinoco do you know perhaps how i can make BitchX highlight when someone talks to me?
[01:32] <shriphani> i got it
[01:32] <apokryphos> !sources.list
[01:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:32] <MisterN> hi
[01:33] <shriphani> yep i got it from source-o-matic
[01:33] <orinoco> KenSentMe, im not the one XD i prefer xchat
[01:33] <shriphani> but i just copied
[01:33] <shriphani> should i do apt-get update as well ?
[01:33] <KenSentMe> orinoco ok
[01:33] <orinoco> !tell shriphani about sources.list
[01:33] <Jimmey__> shriphani: remove all traces of "/var/lib/apt" from your sources.list
[01:33] <shriphani> huh
[01:33] <shriphani> i dont know how
[01:33] <Healot> hey yar, shriphani
[01:34] <shriphani> haan Healot
[01:34] <orinoco> and later do"apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[01:34] <Jimmey__> shriphani: so that it says archive.ubuntu.com, instead of /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu
[01:34] <shriphani> ok
[01:34] <d2812> quick question : ubuntuforums.org is the site with missinformation or not?
[01:34] <orinoco> conkeror, finally the konqueror things on firefox yeah
[01:34] <KenSentMe> d2812 what do you mean?
[01:35] <Jimmey__> shriphani: I'd download the example sources.list, though
[01:35] <shriphani> all of them are pointed to archive.ubuntu
[01:35] <shriphani> .com ^
[01:35] <KenSentMe> d2812 it'a forum so people can be wrong
[01:35] <shriphani> but i didnt run an apt-get update so should i run it ?
[01:36] <Jimmey__> shriphani: Yes, and if it doesn't work, pastebin your sources.list
[01:36] <shriphani> ok
[01:36] <d2812> KenSentMe: i've seen people recommending not using a certain site for tutorials here, but cant remember which site it was. Mate of mine is struggling with something in xgl, and just wanted to check it wasn't that site.
[01:36] <r0xoR> xchat-gnome is by far unsuperior to xchat2 (the gtk version)
[01:36] <linchriss> ok im ready for Edgy Eft.. whats the address for the repos? :)
[01:36] <r0xoR> why the downgrade?
[01:36] <KenSentMe> d2812 ubuntuforums.org are the official forums for ubuntu, as far as i know
[01:36] <bony> i want this command to be executed every time i switch on my system in ubuntu dapper "apache2ctl start"
[01:37] <Jimmey__> linchriss, XoD
[01:37] <KenSentMe> d2812 there's a link from the official ubuntu site
[01:37] <Jimmey__> bony, try "Sessions" under "Preferences"
[01:37] <bony> as root
[01:37] <Frogzoo> linchriss: -> #ubuntu+1   ;)
[01:37] <thedailygrind> I cant get apt-get working any suggestions? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15191
[01:37] <bony> Jimmey__, i want to run it as root
[01:37] <linchriss> hehe :P
[01:38] <Jimmey__> bony, then put "sudo apache2ctl start" as the command to be run
[01:38] <gnomefreak> linchriss: no repos yet
[01:38] <d2812> KenSentMe: okay, just wanted to check. He is loving the new install method though, says its quicker to reinstall than fix any issues that arise :)
[01:38] <linchriss> okay.. Ill guess ill wait then.. Ubuntu is thaa shiznit :)
[01:38] <orinoco> thedailygrind, delete the "nz."
[01:38] <linchriss> Im gone.. peace out :D:D
[01:39] <thedailygrind> orinoco. also tried with official repos. same problem
[01:39] <Jimmey__> Which is better - AIGLX, or XGL?
[01:39] <bony> Jimmey__, shall i put it in "startup Programs"
[01:39] <Jimmey__> bony, yeah
[01:39] <CompuChip|AFK> Zzzz, have been upgrading to Dapper for the last 2,5 hours... any idea how long that usually takes?
[01:39] <orinoco> Jimmey__, depends on your grafic card
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Jimmey__: neither but thats my opinion
[01:40] <orinoco> thedailygrind, have you tried source-o-matic ?
[01:40] <Jimmey__> I'm using the i810 driver - Would that make AIGLX better?
[01:40] <thedailygrind> orinoco. no. point me in the right direction
[01:40] <orinoco> i guess i810 is not a good XGL neither AIGLX option
[01:41] <orinoco> dont try it yet
[01:41] <Deanodriver> hi
[01:41] <Jimmey__> Okay. Thanks.
[01:41] <orinoco> thedailygrind, search source-o-matic in google
[01:41] <orinoco> Jimmey__, i guess XGL and AIGLX require a good nvidia card or in some cases ati
[01:41] <KenSentMe> !tell thedailygrind about sources.list
[01:41] <mjr> they should work fine with i810
[01:41] <mjr> perhaps not all the features
[01:43] <orinoco> Jimmey__, http://getkororaa.com/releases/xgl/xgl-cards
[01:43] <Deanodriver> hey
[01:43] <Deanodriver> i'm having a few problems with samba
[01:43] <orinoco> great Deanodriver
[01:43] <Jimmey__> orinoco: Thankyou
[01:43] <orinoco> Jimmey__, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL
[01:43] <Celeste> hi
[01:43] <orinoco> thats better
[01:43] <Deanodriver> i'm just wondering how I could get it so I could write to a share?
[01:43] <Deanodriver> because I've got the shares set up, and I can read them, but not write
[01:44] <Deanodriver> and sudo chmod doesn't work
[01:44] <Deanodriver> and the shares are both listed on smb.conf as writable
[01:44] <Deanodriver> and are rwxrwxrwx on the server
[01:44] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: *mounting*.
[01:44] <Jimmey__> Deanodriver: What does it say when you try to write?
[01:44] <Deanodriver> i've got them mounting in fstab
[01:44] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: show the entry here
[01:45] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: copy the line here
[01:45] <Deanodriver> just says cannot create regular file: permission denied
[01:45] <Deanodriver> or do you mean fstab line?
[01:45] <Jimmey__> orinoco: My card's listed.
[01:46] <orinoco> Jimmey__, so it works
[01:46] <ompaul> What is device DM-4
[01:46] <Deanodriver> kbrooks_, do you mean the line in fstab for the share?
[01:46] <orinoco> give it a try, even tough xgl on ubuntu is quite no the same as novell's
[01:46] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: yes.show it
[01:47] <Deanodriver> /maggie/files1 /files          smbfs   defaults        0       0
[01:47] <Deanodriver> well
[01:47] <Deanodriver> /
[01:47] <kbrooks_> um
[01:47] <Deanodriver> there's two slashes at the start
[01:47] <barros> hi.. i've just compile a custom kernel, using the linux-source package, but now the ubuntu splash dont show up anymore.. anyone has an ideia why?
[01:47] <B4zzA> the splash is part of the kernel
[01:47] <exhale> :|
[01:48] <B4zzA> ?
[01:48] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: # FS mount point fs type options dump pass
[01:48] <iiiears> VHCS NewUser agreement link is broken. - hmm
[01:48] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: therefore
[01:48] <Deanodriver> yeah
[01:48] <Deanodriver> that seems right, then
[01:48] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: in the options section of that line
[01:48] <Deanodriver> unless i've got the wrong options
[01:48] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: add "user".
[01:48] <Deanodriver> ah ok
[01:48] <barros> B4zzA: I think it is, in the ubuntu version of it
[01:49] <rats> hi, how to scan new added software? i plugged my phone in the usb cable, and sda is not listed in dev
[01:49] <slackern> barros: 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so' and choose the one you want
[01:49] <protocol1> is there a way to do a disk cleanup like thing in ubuntu?
[01:49] <thedailygrind> cant get apt-get to work. tried using default (nz) repos, sources.list file given by someone here and a sources.list file automagically generated by source-o-matic. Each time I get the same error. Internet connection is fine, I am using it right now and can physically browse to the repos using firefox. See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15192 for the latest sources.list file and the results.
[01:49] <exhale> whats the difference between compiz and qgl?
[01:49] <dan> hi, I just did something and the application menu dissapeared on my gnome-panel. does anybody know how I can get it back?
[01:49] <Jimmey__> protocol1, try "sudo apt-cache clean"
[01:49] <slackern> barros: that will show you a menu with options to choose which usplash to use
[01:49] <protocol1> ok
[01:49] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: the options section is a comma delimited sectio n of options
[01:49] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: delimiter = ","
[01:49] <Deanodriver> ok
[01:49] <barros> slackern: thanks, I'll try that..
[01:49] <kbrooks_> options delimiter users
[01:49] <slackern> barros: and you might need to do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)' after but not sure about it.
[01:50] <kbrooks_> er, user
[01:50] <spike> anybody running grub+xfs on dapper?
[01:50] <mtR`> hello
[01:50] <kbrooks_> and i mean "defaults" too
[01:50] <spike> is there any problem with it? afaik grub had probs booting from xfs
[01:50] <mtR`> I have problem with Dapper. I can't to boot it.
[01:50] <Deanodriver> so i put in defaults,user
[01:50] <Deanodriver> ?
[01:50] <slackern> barros: i had a similar problem after trying kubuntu-desktop package, couldn't get the regular ubuntu-usplash back i did those 2 then it was fine again.
[01:50] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: correct
[01:51] <mtR`> I have downloaded a Kubuntu 6.06 desktop for i386, burned it and I can't to boot it
[01:51] <barros> slackern: another strange thing is that the rt2570 module is not compile, even though it is selectec.. but I think that is normal, cause I'm using smp
[01:51] <protocol1> Jimmey__, I get an Invalid Operation with that command
[01:51] <slackern> barros: have you changed kernel or something perhaps? and missed out restricted modules for your new kernel?
[01:51] <Jimmey__> protocol1, that's because I'm dumb. Try "sudo apt-get clean"
[01:51] <mtR`> someone help?
[01:52] <Jimmey__> mtR, have you seen the computer boot from a CD before?
[01:52] <barros> slackern: I've done a make menuconfig, removed things that I'll not use.. but left rt2570 alone
[01:52] <Deanodriver> then mount like this: sudo mount -t smbfs -o=user //maggie/files1 /files
[01:52] <Deanodriver> ?
[01:52] <protocol1> Jimmey__, ok thanks
[01:52] <slackern> barros: ahh
[01:52] <mtR`> Jimmey__, yes.
[01:52] <nasso> When i open a file on a ftp with gedit it is Read Only. Does anyone know how i can make it writeable so i can work on the file and save it directly onto the ftp?
[01:53] <barros> slackern: but I'll not use rt2570, cause it does not support smp, that I use.. I'll try the open source one.. if nothing works, I'll get back to ndiswrapper, that worked like a charm on a fedora box
[01:53] <slackern> barros: ahh haven't tried making my own kernel for ubuntu  yet, but it might have something to do with that you must make a initrd for your new kernel, if you followed a howto for it there should be something about how to make a new initrd there.
[01:53] <Jimmey__> mtR`: Try burning the image file at a lower speed, perhaps
[01:53] <barros> slackern: yes, I got a how to.. I used the make-kpkg to buil the kernel..
[01:54] <mtR`> m'kay.
[01:54] <mtR`> I'll try.
[01:54] <barros> slackern: that was very simple, it build and install everything needed..
[01:54] <CompuChip|AFK> I'm gonna see now if the update is ready yet ... :)
[01:54] <slackern> barros: ahh, maybe i'll try it out in the future, but nothing i've bothered with yet, seems to work quite well as it is for me :)
[01:54] <bananafly> just to confirm; there ain't a way to change WinXP drive letters through linux, right?
[01:55] <steveeeeee> mtR`: how did you burn the cd?
[01:55] <barros> slackern: for me too, but I wanted to optimize and remove a bunch of unused modules.. and I was having hanging problems with the rt2570 and WPA
[01:55] <mtR`> with Win XP program. :P
[01:55] <mtR`> I'll try now with Nero
[01:55] <Deanodriver> it still won't let me write to them
[01:55] <steveeeeee> mtR`: so you just opened the ISO and drag the files onto windows explorer?
[01:55] <mtR`> yep
[01:56] <steveeeeee> you cant do that :p
[01:56] <steveeeeee> you need to burn the ISO image
[01:56] <mtR`> why?
[01:56] <mtR`> but i downloaded it in RAR
[01:56] <steveeeeee> cos the ISO image contains the boot information required to boot your cd basically
[01:56] <steveeeeee> RAR?
[01:56] <rats> how to scan new added software? i plugged my phone(k750i) in the usb cable, and sda is not listed in dev
[01:56] <rats> anyone? :(
[01:56] <barros> slackern: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 - a how to compile kernel. :D
[01:56] <steveeeeee> where did you download ubuntu :S
[01:56] <barros> slackern: just change linux-tree for linux-source
[01:57] <mtR`> w8
[01:57] <Jimmey__> I've got xgl and compiz installed - What the heck do I do to get them working?
[01:57] <mtR`> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ - here
[01:57] <ompaul> !xgl
[01:57] <apokryphos> Jimmey__: /msg ubotu xgl
[01:57] <ubotu> well, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[01:58] <Deanodriver> kbrooks_, it still isn't writing :(
[01:58] <Jimmey__> Thanks.
[01:58] <Deanodriver> maybe there's something wrong with the smb.conf on my server?
[01:58] <steveeeeee> mtR`: they're ISOs there though
[01:58] <mtR`> in file name is written *.iso, but it is RAR archive...
[01:58] <kbrooks_> Deanodriver: erase "defaults".
[01:58] <steveeeeee> mtR`: oh, you don't open it with RAR
[01:58] <steveeeeee> mtR`: use Nero to burn the image
[01:59] <mtR`> so I must burn this archive without openning?
[01:59] <ArthurBrazil> does the LAMP install come with an ftp server?
[01:59] <Dave_W> gee ... a lot of people on this channel.
[01:59] <steveeeeee> mtR`: yup, you want to retain the boot info so you can boot the cd
[01:59] <Deanodriver> tried that, still no luck
[01:59] <mtR`> aaa, ok :)
[01:59] <steveeeeee> mtR`: theres an option to burn an image in Nero, so use that :)
[01:59] <mtR`> m'kay
[02:00] <Deanodriver> is it a problem that i have security=share?
[02:00] <Deanodriver> in smb.conf on server?
[02:02] <pazkooda> Hello, can anybody help me with findig solution for non-working Intel HDA (ICH 7 Family) Audio Card ?
[02:05] <Selaiah> Anyone around whom I could bother with having a look at my Wlan Config files? Having trouble getting it to run
[02:05] <Netcat> can someone please tell me where to get the source for mozilla gtk2?
[02:07] <Deanodriver> this thing's starting to give me the shits
[02:10] <ompaul> Deanodriver, take ie easy on the language
[02:10] <valberg> i need help configuring X.org ! i get this in the ending of my Xorg.0.log: "Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'"
[02:10] <Deanodriver> sure, sorry
[02:10] <Deanodriver> just i've become annoyed with samba
[02:10] <Deanodriver> half tempted to give up, take the drives out of the server, and put them back in this desktop
[02:11] <ompaul> Deanodriver, don't give up, read that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[02:11] <Deanodriver> thanks a lot, i'll give that a try
[02:11] <Deanodriver> i can't believe i'm such a n00b at it still, i've been running ubuntu as my only OS for a year now
[02:12] <ompaul> Deanodriver, the thing is where the community puts together answers they will be documented, and usually in a lot of detail, this should be more like a set of librarians pointing you to a good book :-)
[02:12] <Deanodriver> sweet, thanks
[02:12] <Deanodriver> now to have a read :)
[02:13] <valberg> hmm... where does the x.org developers hang out at ?
[02:13] <Jimmey__> #xorg?
[02:13] <valberg> ahh doh... i joined #x.org
[02:13] <valberg> :P
[02:15] <Hexidigital_> what would be the correct command to change ownership of /media/hda4 (a new hard disk)?
[02:15] <planetcall> chown ?
[02:15] <Hexidigital_> planetcall:: yes, but i can't remember the arguments
[02:15] <Hexidigital_> planetcall:: i need to make my current user read/writeable
[02:15] <bananafly> man chown?
[02:15] <planetcall> chown --help :P
[02:16] <bananafly> yes, that too :)
[02:16] <Hexidigital_> ty both
[02:16] <planetcall> Hexidigital_,  btw is it a case of reading a Window Partition ?
[02:16] <Hexidigital_> planetcall:: no
[02:16] <planetcall> k then above 2 are good enough ! :)
[02:16] <Hexidigital_> planetcall:: what is windows?
[02:16] <Hexidigital_> :)
[02:18] <hmpedersen> Does vmware server work on ubuntu?
[02:18] <Hexidigital_> with chown myname:myname /media/hda4, i get operation not permitted...
[02:18] <Hexidigital_> hmpedersen:: yes
[02:19] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell hmpedersen about vmserver
[02:19] <hmpedersen> Hexidigital_: Great. Thanks.
[02:19] <hmpedersen> I've spent alot of time downloading stuff that didn't work lately, so I thought it would be best to ask this time
[02:19] <Oni-Dracula> dapper makes my head hurt
[02:19] <Hexidigital_> hmpedersen:: did you get the pm from ubotu?
[02:19] <exhale> if you apt-get it it should work :|
[02:20] <Hexidigital_> exhale:: is vmware server available in the repos?
[02:20] <exhale> dont know take a look
[02:20] <hmpedersen> Hex: Yeah.. But I'll need to write it down, as I'm on windows right now.
[02:20] <Hexidigital_> exhale:: you're the one who said to apt-get it
[02:20] <lawine> isn't VMware slightly commercial software?
[02:21] <Hexidigital_> lawine:: server is free
[02:21] <exhale> Hexidigital_ thats right.
[02:21] <hmpedersen> lawine, vmware server is a free beta
[02:21] <fred__> where is wine in dapper amd64?
[02:21] <eCokeNCod> ok guys ,,, i'm a bit confused about the aptitude remove
[02:21] <lawine> oh, right.
[02:21] <eCokeNCod> whenever i do that,a nd reinstall
[02:21] <Hexidigital_> lawine:: lacks some commercial grade stuff, but otherwise good
[02:21] <eCokeNCod> the software comes back with the same bugs it had before i uninstalled
[02:21] <eCokeNCod> right now, i can't get tvtime to work ... can anyone help me out ?
[02:21] <Selaiah> Anyone around whom I could bother with having a look at my Wlan Config files? Having trouble getting it to run
[02:21] <Hexidigital_> eCokeNCod:: use apt-get remove --purge {package}
[02:22] <hmpedersen> I haven't gotten dapper to install correctly. So I gave up and installed breezy yesterday
[02:22] <grasshopper> GUYS!
[02:23] <grasshopper> what does it mean to copy to binaries?
[02:23] <Jimmey__> What binary are you trying to copy, and to where?
[02:23] <Selaiah> Jimmey i have all my relevant info here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15150
[02:23] <grasshopper> You may copy this shell script to any binaries
[02:23] <grasshopper> directory you want and it will run cgoban out of this directory.
[02:23] <boo> grasshopper: 110110101011011000011
[02:23] <Selaiah> You think you could have a look at it?
[02:23] <Selaiah> Thanks a ton ;)
[02:24] <boo> =D
[02:24] <grasshopper> Jimmey__ i installed cgoban and am told that i can copy shell script to any binaries and it'll run out of that directory
[02:24] <Selaiah> Its a RalinkRT2500 that im trying to connect to a WPA2 encrypted network with Static IP's but you can probably see that in the link :D
[02:25] <livevil> hi
[02:25] <grasshopper> boo: that code is incorrect,but good try  :D
[02:25] <Jimmey__> Yeah, I could tell that you wanted to connect to an encrypted network -
[02:25] <Jimmey__> What's the problem, exactly?
[02:25] <livevil> What can I use instead of real player to liten to radio from internet?
[02:25] <Jimmey__> Can't connect to the network?
[02:25] <livevil> listen
[02:25] <grasshopper> Jimmey__ what happened?
[02:25] <Selaiah> Jimmey__: Yeah
[02:25] <Selaiah> I'm trying to make it connect, (in the kwifi manager he finds the network and all that perfectly too)
[02:26] <Selaiah> i just cant make it connect
[02:26] <grasshopper> Guys, what does it mean to copy a shel script to a directory?
[02:26] <Jimmey__> Selaiah: can you ping the router?
[02:26] <babo> -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[02:26] <babo> -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[02:26] <planetcall> it means to copy a shell script to a directory
[02:26] <babo> That should allow me internet access right ?
[02:26] <hmpedersen> If dapper doesn't work as a fresh install from the cd, will it work when upgraded trough synaptic from a working breezy?
[02:26] <grasshopper> planetcall, how exactly?
[02:27] <Deanodriver> ompaul, still no luck, now i can get it writing with the terminal, but when i try it in nautilus, it won't work
[02:27] <Selaiah> Jimmey__ I haven't tried
[02:27] <`Boo`> Hey, i have a mx518 and i am trying to get the mouse buttons to work...any ideas on where to start looking?  system -> mouse doesnt have what im looking for
[02:27] <hmpedersen> Boo, had it been an mx500 i coulda helped you..
[02:27] <planetcall> you can use your mouse to select the file....right click.....copy   and then go to destination and right click.....paste........voila !!! its that easy ! :P
[02:27] <planetcall> or you may follow an even simpler way.....by using command line
[02:27] <`Boo`> hmpedersen: the 500 and 518 are a lot alike
[02:28] <`Boo`> where did you fix yours?
[02:28] <Selaiah> Jimmey__: What i tried tho is, entering the key in Hex and also as text string. Is it possible that maybe the driver that comes with ubuntu is not capable of WPA?
[02:28] <hmpedersen> Well.. I just plugged it in and it worked..
[02:28] <planetcall> grasshopper,  mv <source file/dir path> <dest path>
[02:28] <grasshopper> planetcall: don't pretend command line is easy, Now stop it!  :p  so, if i havea game script for Go
[02:28] <hmpedersen> The mx518 is a bit different..
[02:28] <Selaiah> Jimmey__: Or is it a problem with my config files? (i dont really knwo how to interpret the iwconfig output)
[02:28] <Hexidigital_> Selaiah:: do you have wpasupplicant installed?
[02:28] <livevil> do you know a program like real player for linux?
[02:29] <grasshopper> what directory should i put it in. If i want to put it in games forexample?
[02:29] <Selaiah> Hexidigital_: Yeah i did apt-get install but it was already installed
[02:29] <Jimmey__> Selaiah: the config files look fine - You might want to uncomment the "auto rao" in /etc/network/interfaces - Maybe then try "sudo ifup ra0"
[02:29] <planetcall> mkdir /opt/mygame
[02:29] <planetcall> mv <sourcedir>/* /opt/mygame
[02:29] <grasshopper> plenetcall: its not like sources.list is it?
[02:30] <ompaul> Deanodriver, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and do a text serach cor samba - sorry have to dash
[02:30] <Deanodriver> ok
[02:30] <Deanodriver> thanks
[02:30] <Selaiah> okay Thank you Jimmey I'll try that. Any hint what could be the problem if that doesnt help?
[02:30] <Selaiah> Could it indeed be that the driver is not capable of wpa?
[02:30] <sugoruyo> hi all
[02:31] <Jimmey__> Selaiah: I'm not sure, I've never really dealt with encrypted networking before
[02:31] <grasshopper> planetcall: i don't have anything in opt right now. what is this folder for?
[02:31] <Netcat> can some one tell me how to format usb disk from linux?
[02:31] <Selaiah> okay, I'll take it from there than, thanks for helping =)
[02:31] <grasshopper> planetcall: where are my other games stored? I want it to be in Applications/Games
[02:32] <sugoruyo> i'm in trouble... After getting some packages with synaptic i was told i need to reboot so i did. And I ended up with a message telling me that the X server is messed up
[02:32] <sugoruyo> so now i'm in text mode using this irssi thing
[02:32] <grasshopper> planetcall: why does it have to be in another directory at all. Why can't i run it out of where it is, i.e 'downloads'
[02:32] <sugoruyo> and i dunno what to do
[02:32] <grasshopper> planetcall: don't give up on me man...
[02:33] <j3g> i want to try out ubuntu... but i prefer kde to gnome.... how is ubuntu's kde support? i know it defaults to gnome for everything
[02:33] <Jimmey__> !kubuntu
[02:33] <ubotu> hmm... kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE  ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[02:33] <sugoruyo> j3g: get kubuntu
[02:33] <void^> Selaiah: afaik the ralink driver doesn't work with wpa_supplicant
[02:33] <j3g> sugoruyo: ok.... but is it as good as the latest ubuntu?
[02:33] <sugoruyo> j3g: ubuntu only comes with gnome, you get kde over the net
[02:33] <apokryphos> j3g: better 8)
[02:33] <sugoruyo> j3g: i think it is
[02:34] <duff> hi everyone
[02:34] <grasshopper> planetcall: ? huh ?
[02:34] <j3g> ok :) i'll get the latest ubuntu and install it then
[02:34] <void^> Selaiah: it does have builtin wpa support, though. i use it on a desktop with aes wpa.
[02:34] <sugoruyo> anyone can help with the X prob?
[02:35] <void^> Selaiah: perhaps https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500 will help
[02:36] <Selaiah> Oh I'll try that, thank you =)
[02:36] <lesshaste> I can't see any text from the other person when I pm someone in xchat... any idea how to fix it?
[02:37] <Jimmey__> lesshaste, speak to people that aren't ignorant :)
[02:37] <Jimmey__> Just kidding.
[02:37] <lesshaste> Jimmey__: I had this problem once before ages ago and I needed to change something at my end
[02:38] <railk> just wondering... i'm thinking about installing ubuntu but i've got some SCSI/RAID IDE/S-ATA controller... if i use it in SCSI+S-ATA mode it should work fine, right?
[02:38] <railk> lesshaste is the other person registered?
[02:38] <Jimmey__> !SATA
[02:38] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jimmey__
[02:39] <Jimmey__> Shiz.
[02:39] <ginn> Hello, is there any one can use gok on ubuntu 6.06?
[02:39] <lesshaste> railk: good question
[02:39] <j3g> is there 2 versions of dapper, one regular and one LTS?
[02:39] <railk> freenode only allows registered people to pm...
[02:39] <tuxtheslacker> hey.
[02:39] <lesshaste> railk: ah yes.. that was it I think... thanks
[02:40] <tuxtheslacker> How do I get the icons from programs like say amarok to stay open when they close with a taskbar?
[02:40] <tuxtheslacker> because my taskbar just dissappeared on one fo the boots.... :-/.
[02:40] <duff> exit
[02:41] <J_P> hi all
[02:41] <iiiears> Welcom J_P
[02:42] <grasshopper> Guys, i need help: 1. downlaoded cgoban-unix-2.6.12.tar.gz 2. untarred and followed instruction sh.install.sh
[02:42] <grasshopper> 3. i copied the script and brought it to dir /opt/Go
[02:42] <grasshopper> 4. Now what?
[02:42] <grasshopper> It isn't running from command line
[02:42] <grasshopper> what have i missed?
[02:43] <redrum> has anyone else been able to successfully use 3d acceleration in wine or cedega, on ubuntu64 with an ATI video card? i've done lots of searching and reading, and found other users with the same issue I'm having, but as of yet no resolution.. anyone ? ;)
[02:43] <Matthewv> grasshopper, any error?
[02:43] <grasshopper> no error came up no#
[02:43] <DarkLegacy_> Yup
[02:43] <DarkLegacy_> No progress with DHCP
[02:43] <DarkLegacy_> Ethernet connection still broken on Dapper.
[02:43] <DarkLegacy_> :(
[02:44] <Matthewv> grasshopper, isn't it a java applet though? so it would have to be run through java?
[02:44] <grasshopper> Matthewv: when i type Go in command line it just simply doesn't recognise the command
[02:44] <Toma-> anyone got an nvidia mx4000 with dapper working?
[02:45] <grasshopper> Matthewv: this is a client. There is a webbased java one but i want to istall the full client
[02:45] <CokeNCode> oh crap in here is busy today ... did anyone answer my question ?
[02:45] <CokeNCode> dapper 6.06 upgrades have led to problems for quite a few people it seems
[02:46] <cr3> the connection manager applet in the gnome panel doesn't list eth1, my wireless interface, whereas ifconfig does. what could be the problem?
[02:46] <Jimmey__> cr3, what does it say next to the eth1 listing in ifconfig ?
[02:47] <Matthewv> grasshopper, so you have jre installed
[02:47] <grasshopper> Matthewv: of course
[02:47] <cr3> Jimmey__: Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:12:F0:27:DB:00
[02:47] <cr3> Jimmey__: the interface is not configured though, that's why I'm looking into the connection manager for help
[02:47] <Toma-> !nvidia
[02:47] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[02:48] <slider2800> Hi all!
[02:48] <Matthewv> grasshopper, so you have copied the script to /opt , renamed it to Go, and it won't run when you type in Go ?
[02:48] <grasshopper> Matthewv: all that apparently then remained was to sh.setup.sh and copy script to a directory
[02:48] <rem_> .
[02:48] <J_P> anyone know where I change viewports in gconf-editor for xgl has more than four viewports ?
[02:48] <slider2800> CRITICAL QUESTION!!! -- Can anybody help me with a GRUB question?
[02:49] <Jimmey__> !ask
[02:49] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:49] <grasshopper> Matthewv; ah..no i crreated a folder called Go in /opt and put it in there. Is that different?
[02:49] <Matthewv> no...
[02:49] <babo> Can someone have a look at this simple iptables ruleset for me ? ... it's cutting me off from the internet for some reason ... http://pastebin.com/762230
[02:49] <grasshopper> Matthewv: i didn't rename anything
[02:49] <slider2800> So... um. we have a dual-boot computer with Ubuntu and Win$ucks installed...
[02:49] <slider2800> so in Win$ucks i've got a big freakin' trojan...
[02:49] <Matthewv> grasshopper, this is because linux won't look anywhere but the special binary directories for binaries to run
[02:49] <slider2800> and i have to reinstall that shit.
[02:50] <slider2800> BUT! if i reinstall winXP then its overwriting Grub.
[02:50] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell slider2800 about grub
[02:50] <grasshopper> Matthewv: di don't follow, so what should i have done?
[02:50] <Matthewv> grasshopper, i would run 'sudo ln -s /usr/bin/cgoban /opt/go/cgoban' or something like that, and then running 'cgoban' should start the program
[02:50] <Toma-> slider2800: thats WInXP for ya. inconsiderate OS :)
[02:51] <ether> Having a problem with gnome panel and the solutions I've found in the forums haven't worked so far
[02:51] <Toma-> if anyone solves this nvidia problem for me, id send them money :(
[02:51] <slider2800> sorry, but me and my mom are still using XP for some works.
[02:51] <zerokarmaleft> slider2800: after installing XP, you can restore grub to the MBR with a livecd
[02:52] <slider2800> good to know. :)
[02:52] <ether> anybody encounter the "I detect a panel already open" error?
[02:52] <Matthewv> grasshopper, you follow that?
[02:52] <slider2800> i'm still a real noob on linux
[02:53] <grasshopper> Matthewv: sorry, no. I wasjust reading it says to copy to a /bin directory?
[02:53] <Matthewv> that would work to grasshopper
[02:53] <Matthewv> *too
[02:53] <grasshopper> Matthewv: why is this hard?
[02:54] <Matthewv> grasshopper, it isn't really... its just you were trying to do something that doesn't actually work
[02:54] <darkbuntu> hi, my prob: want record the input stream, but audio-record record nothing ;(
[02:54] <Matthewv> grasshopper, just run 'sudo cp /opt/go/cgoban /bin/cgoban'
[02:54] <hajuu> Hey y'all! Just on the console doing some maintinence trying to install xdm... It comes up with an error on startup that the default font 'fixed' could not be opened... Any ideas?
[02:54] <Matthewv> and then typing cgoban at the command prompt should work fine :)
[02:54] <Chousuke> or rather, add /opt/go to $PATH
[02:55] <ether> just installed fresh 6.06
[02:55] <Chousuke> iirc "cgoban" is a shell script.
[02:55] <Toma-> HA! found it. Nvidia installer installs drivers in /usr/X11R6/lib where as the nvidia installers throws them at /usr/lib/xorg/.... what a horrid error.
[02:55] <Matthewv> Chousuke, that would work too, but it seems pointless to add /opt/go to $PATH (and i can't remember exactly how to do that ;) )
[02:55] <theine> Hi, is there a way to have gnome-power-manager execute custom commands upon suspend/resume?
[02:55] <hajuu> !iirc
[02:55] <ubotu> hmm... iirc is "If I Remember Correctly", (If I remember correctly... )
[02:56] <Chousuke> Matthewv: just add it to .bash_profile or something
[02:56] <grasshopper> Matthewv: Yeah! you de bomb!  '<
[02:56] <Matthewv> thanks Chousuke grasshopper
[02:56] <sugoruyo> hey can someone help me get X running again?
[02:57] <grasshopper> Matthewyv: planet was telling me earliar to copy it to /opt which was wrong, but which was my fault also, because i didn't 'get' to copy it to /bin
[02:57] <slider2800> thanks for the help guys. i'm off then grubbin' :D
[02:57] <slider2800> bye all!
[02:57] <grasshopper> Matthewv: finally how can i make that appear to launch from Applications/Games
[02:57] <phpError> Is the default installtion CD for Ubuntu breezy or dapper?
[02:57] <phpError> That's version 5.04
[02:58] <Matthewv> grasshopper, right-click on the menu bar on the top left corner of the screen.. and press 'edit menus'
[02:58] <ether> should I just reinstall dapper?
[02:58] <Fjodor> phpError: The current version is 6.06, also known as Dapper Drake
[02:58] <phpError> ...?
[02:58] <Matthewv> grasshopper, then click on games on the side, go to file --> new
[02:58] <phpError> ok
[02:58] <gil> i need help with my suspend option using klaptop
[02:59] <sugoruyo> does anyone know how to repair the X server?
[02:59] <theine> sugoruyo: what's wrong with it?
[02:59] <sugoruyo> i got some packages with synaptic
[02:59] <noaXess_kubuntu> hi all
[03:00] <grasshopper> Mattheww: ok, and fill out the form. apart from teh name, how about command and comment?
[03:00] <sugoruyo> and after reboot it crashed to text mode
[03:00] <theine> sugoruyo: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:00] <Matthewv> grasshopper, fill out as Name: Cgoban     Comment: Whatever :)       Command: cgoban     Icon: change to anything appropriate :)
[03:00] <sugoruyo> saying X is f.cked up
[03:00] <Matthewv> hi ESPOiG
[03:00] <theine> sugoruyo: if you don't know what to choose, hit enter...
[03:00] <ESPOiG> what apt-get "package" do i get to install the NFS files for file sharing between linux comps :S
[03:00] <tuxtheslacker> hey can someone tell me how to get my taskbar (like all the programs that are working) to show me what all is working?
[03:01] <ESPOiG> hey Mathewv
[03:01] <Toma-> HAZZZAH!!! I win linux!!! :D Anyone wanting the NVIDIA offical drivers should run "sh NVIDIA-blah --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/"
[03:01] <Toma-> what an effort. time for some games 8)
[03:02] <grasshopper> Matthewv: yea, thats easy, command: i just browsed and went to /bin/cgoban and presto...
[03:02] <Matthewv> ESPOiG, i believe that going to System --> Shared Folders will prompt you to install nfs packages
[03:02] <grasshopper> Matthewv: thx, again, i learnt something...that with some help anything is possible, hehe
[03:02] <Matthewv> grasshopper, no probs
[03:02] <ESPOiG> Mathewv yeh i tried that it didnt work
[03:03] <sugoruyo> theine: ok i did
[03:03] <Matthewv> oh.. try installing nfs-client and nfs-server then :)
[03:03] <ESPOiG> ty
[03:03] <sugoruyo> i went through the wizard/dialog whatever and then i told it to startx
[03:03] <sugoruyo> at which point it fails
[03:04] <theine> sugoruyo: now are you at the console?
[03:04] <theine> sugoruyo: i.e. not under X?
[03:04] <theine> sugoruyo: aha, so does it give any error messages?
[03:05] <sugoruyo> yeah it complained about not finding the nvidia module
[03:05] <sugoruyo> i guess that's because i got the i686 kernel
[03:05] <sugoruyo> and i had the nvidia driver
[03:05] <sugoruyo> ???
[03:05] <sugoruyo> yes now i'm in text-mode
[03:06] <theine> sugoruyo: right, try installing linux-restricted-modules-686
[03:06] <zhangsen> why every time i reboot my dapper, the symbol link /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 changes to point to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2?
[03:06] <sugoruyo> using that irssi thing i'm completely unfimiliar with
[03:06] <zhangsen> I've installed the nvidia 8762 driver manually.
[03:07] <paql> how can I update gaim to 2.12 version ?
[03:07] <j3g> how is support for older ATI cards on ubuntu? (radeon 8500 AIW)
[03:07] <Mulder> paql, doesnt exist
[03:07] <theine> sugoruyo: ?
[03:07] <Mulder> j3g, should work
[03:07] <theine> sugoruyo: ah, ok ;)
[03:07] <Raskall> j3g: 2D support is probably excellent, 3D support probably requires using ATI's own drivers (which is an extremely frustrating thing)
[03:08] <paql> Mulder, what is the latest version?
[03:08] <Raskall> j3g: for linux Nvidia is definetely the way to go
[03:08] <Mulder> paql, 1.5
[03:08] <zhangsen> paql, can you get the source code and compile that?
[03:08] <Mulder> paql, there's a 2.0 beta 3 out but that's beta
[03:08] <j3g> Raskall: i know :) but this is a box at work so no choice of hardware there
[03:08] <j3g> Raskall: i got myself a 6600gt
[03:08] <paql> ok
[03:08] <sugoruyo> theine: if i go to xorg.conf and tell it to use nv instead of nvidia
[03:08] <cdubya> what's the command to resolve fixing any packages that may have had trouble in a dist-upgrade? I wish I could say that my upgrade to dapper went smoothly, but it didn't at all......
[03:09] <sugoruyo> i should be able to get into X again right?
[03:09] <theine> sugoruyo: yeah, that will make it work too, but you want nvidia, right?
[03:09] <sugoruyo> yeah
[03:09] <Raskall> j3g: It is possible to get 3D working on ATI with ATI's drivers (fglrx), but the xorg drivers are also very good if you don't need 3d
[03:09] <theine> sugoruyo: so have you got the restricted-modules package installed?
[03:09] <freezey> i am using samba i got everything networked well.... but when i try to login from my windows machine it asks for a username and password i tried my root and my username but niether work... is there a certail place i set this?
[03:09] <sugoruyo> is it possible to get nvidia again for i686 kernel or does it only exist for i386
[03:09] <sugoruyo> theine: i dunno
[03:09] <Raskall> but I have to go now.
[03:09] <sugoruyo> come to think of it
[03:10] <theine> sugoruyo: you've got an up-to-date Dapper system, right?
[03:10] <sugoruyo> i installed some stuff from synaptic
[03:10] <sugoruyo> yeah
[03:10] <theine> sugoruyo: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686
[03:10] <sugoruyo> but i only chose from the "Base System" category
[03:11] <sugoruyo> theine: where 2.6.15... i should put my kernel version right??
[03:11] <dou213> what are the restricted modules all about? is it that universe multiverse thing?
[03:11] <sugoruyo> like `uname -r`
[03:11] <dou213> sugoruyo, yes
[03:11] <theine> sugoruyo: yes, but that's the one you have, no?
[03:11] <sugoruyo> i think so
[03:11] <sugoruyo> just to be on the safe side
[03:11] <theine> sugoruyo: sure :)
[03:12] <theine> sugoruyo: and yes, "uname -r" is the way to check that
[03:12] <Scognito> hi
[03:12] <Freezeman> join #ubuntu-se
[03:12] <Scognito> can i install amarok 1.4 on ubuntu 6.06?
[03:12] <sugoruyo> ok now i'm dling the packages
[03:12] <sugoruyo> what then?
[03:12] <cdubya> bah, anyway, can someone tell me what the option is to fix packages that needed to install on a dist-upgrade, but failed for one reason or another and I need to fix that.....? Upgrading to Dapper has not been much fun for me at this point......
[03:12] <sugoruyo> apt will install them and i can be on X with nvidia?
[03:12] <theine> sugoruyo: then try restarting the X server
[03:13] <sugoruyo> ok
[03:13] <MaKkY> hey guys how do i install macromedia flash player for firefox... whats the name of the file?
[03:13] <roe> any idea why I can get on the internet fine but can't connect to any apt sources?
[03:13] <lesshaste> roe: tried pinging them?
[03:13] <dou213> what are the restricted modules all about? is it that universe multiverse thing?
[03:13] <Matthewv> MaKkY, flashplugin-nonfree
[03:13] <theine> Scognito: yes, you can
[03:13] <sugoruyo> nvidia driver is really important cause it's the only way
[03:14] <MaKkY> Mattheww: I have that, yet it still doesn't work....
[03:14] <sugoruyo> i can lower screen brightness on this vaio
[03:14] <sugoruyo> so it doesn't hurt my eyes
[03:14] <Matthewv> MaKkY, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree
[03:14] <Scognito> theine, do i have to use the kubuntu source list?
[03:14] <Scognito> or whatever
[03:14] <zhangsen> dou213, you can add all the main, universe, multiverse, restricted to your sources.list
[03:14] <Matthewv> that should prompt for the download of the plugin from macromedia MaKkY
[03:14] <theine> Scognito: check out http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[03:14] <roe> lesshaste, yes I can
[03:14] <freezey> ne1 know where the tdbsam passdb is?
[03:15] <jacopoexchange> doesn anyone know how to encode .mov files with LiVES under ubuntu?
[03:15] <theine> jacopoexchange: what's lives?
[03:15] <Sir_Brizz> sooooooo......... if kernel 2.6.12 works with my NIC card and 2.6.15 does not, how can I fix that???
[03:15] <Scognito> theine, i read it, but didn't tried because i tought it can screw my ubuntu installation since it is Kubuntu
[03:15] <Scognito> or it is safe?
[03:15] <jacopoexchange> theine: it is a video editor
[03:15] <dou213> and if i do "sudo apt-get linux-restricted-modules" ? is it the same as editing the sources.list ? or just retrieving the packages?
[03:15] <hmpedersen> How do I get my grub bootloader back after it messes itself up and i have to remove it?
[03:16] <theine> Scognito: you can safely do that, no harm will be done to your Ubuntu system
[03:16] <Matthewv> hmpedersen, so you're in windows or some other os now?
[03:16] <theine> jacopoexchange: do you have a link?
[03:16] <Scognito> ok thank you a lot TheDracle
[03:16] <Scognito> thefish,
[03:16] <Scognito> hem...
[03:16] <Scognito> theine,
[03:16] <Scognito> :)
[03:16] <theine> You're welcome :)
[03:16] <jacopoexchange> theine: lives.sourceforge.net
[03:16] <theine> jacopoexchange: thanks
[03:16] <hmpedersen> Matthewy, yes. I put breezy to hibernation. When waking it up i got errors about not hibernating correctly. It rebooted and grub came with an error 27
[03:17] <jacopoexchange> theine: it took me days to configure
[03:17] <roe> anythoughts about apt crapping out
[03:18] <hmpedersen> Matthewv*
[03:18] <jacopoexchange> theine: when i try to encode a .wmv clip onto .mov it creates only an empty .mov file.
[03:18] <jacopoexchange> the dedicated chatroom doesn't answer
[03:18] <Matthewv> hmpedersen, i would boot the live cd... then run 'sudo chroot /dev/<your_install_location>' and then run 'sudo grub-install /dev/hda' to install to mbr
[03:18] <theine> jacopoexchange: i don't know the answer either I'm afraid
[03:18] <hmpedersen> hmm..
[03:18] <MaKkY> Mattheww, how do i get DirectX 9.0 or do i not need it for Linux
[03:18] <hmpedersen> Matthewv, good idea. I shoulda thought of that
[03:18] <_juakko> this cool place but i dont speak english
[03:19] <jacopoexchange> theine: do you know any other program that might help me in the conversion?
[03:19] <Matthewv> hmpedersen, or you could try to go into the recovery console and run the same grub-install command
[03:19] <Matthewv> MaKkY, you mean for wine or cedega, or?
[03:19] <theine> jacopoexchange: I'd say transcode or mencoder
[03:19] <jacopoexchange> theine: I'll check those out, thanks
[03:19] <theine> jacopoexchange: np
[03:20] <MaKkY> Mattheww: Im downloading Fung Wan Online (windows MMORPG) & i plan on installing it using wine.... is there anything else i might need?
[03:20] <DarkMageZ> MaKkY, luck, you need it :P
[03:21] <MaKkY> DarkMageZ: why luck?
[03:21] <Matthewv> MaKkY, i think you might need to install DirectX, but i'm not sure.. from memory directx installs quite easy under wine
[03:21] <DarkMageZ> MaKkY, because wine isn't anywhere near perfect
[03:21] <klimek> C-n
[03:22] <klimek> C-p
[03:23] <klimek> C-a C-p
[03:23] <klimek> C-a C-p
[03:23] <hmpedersen> MaKkY, If you have a little money, I suggest you go try Cedega.. It's worth it and much better than wine..
[03:23] <klimek> :/
[03:23] <Matthewv> klimek, ???????????
[03:24] <roe> anythoughts about apt crapping out, its a fresh dapper install and I am on the internet
[03:24] <klimek> I trying to changle window in irssi :D
[03:24] <Matthewv> roe, error?
[03:24] <theine> Isn't cedega essentially wine + massive hacks to get certain games working?
[03:24] <klimek> does anyone know how?
[03:24] <cidco> Is there anyway to make Ubuntu compile my apps from source rather than using the binaries?
[03:24] <Matthewv> klimek, oh... i just use a lot of /join statements when using irssi :)
[03:24] <roe> Matthewv, just fails to connect to the sources
[03:24] <klimek> yh...
[03:24] <hmpedersen> theine, cedega is a commercially developed tool. It started as an advanced wine, but it is much more now
[03:25] <theine> cidco: yes, try installing the build-essentials package
[03:25] <theine> cidco: that will get you going
[03:25] <Matthewv> roe, what sources you got urs set to?
[03:25] <cidco> theine thanks ill take a look
[03:25] <roe> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper
[03:26] <theine> hmpedersen: commercially developed does not equal better in my book...
[03:26] <roe> and others
[03:26] <roe> I can resolve the host name and pint hte IP
[03:26] <hmpedersen> theine, well if you haven't tried both, then you can't judge. There is alot better support on cedega than wine. And it has not failed to play -one- game i've tried yet
[03:27] <jaro> Hello , can somebody help me with a CVS-Issue ??
[03:27] <theine> hmpedersen: yes, due to massive hacks, but without wine, cedega would be non-existant
[03:28] <Matthewv> cedega isn't too bad i s'pose.. if ur forking out money for a lot of games, it'd be worth it
[03:28] <CrippsFX> jaro, no.
[03:28] <Matthewv> roe, could it maybe be just a remote server issue?
[03:28] <MaKkY> hmpedersen, i downloaded Cedega from Frostwire... how do i install it... its a *.tgz file
[03:28] <CompuChip|AFK> YaY, upgrade complete. It only screwed up my dovecot config :)
[03:29] <hmpedersen> MaKkY, You need to get it from the official site..
[03:29] <j3g> how is ubuntu's dmraid support ? i have my 2 hds on raid0  using the SIL sata controller
[03:29] <borisn> hello....im trying to install 6.06 and i have a 76 gb partition open...so i set 75 gb to the install partition and the remaining gb to swap...except when i have to choose where to install it and the swap drive, it only recognizes the partition as a whole?
[03:30] <Matthewv> borisn, you set all that in the desktop installer?
[03:30] <leks> still no edgy repos?
[03:30] <borisn> yes
[03:31] <Matthewv> borisn, did you write the changes to disk before exiting the partitioner?
[03:31] <borisn> how would i do that? i hit forward, and it seemed to do everything...then when i have to select mount points...just the one partition
[03:32] <Matthewv> or roe, you might have to set it to us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[03:32] <Henk> hi, does anyone have a good tool/oneliner for removing all bad symlinks in a dir?
[03:32] <Matthewv> borisn, are you still in the installer now?
[03:32] <hmpedersen> MaKkY, read my pms
[03:33] <MaKkY> hmpedersen... i have
[03:33] <UserName14> I have setup subversion, the repoistory works fine. How do i make it work with /var/www for my webroot\server ??? I wouldnt ask but i have wasted sooo much time on subversion please put me out of my misery
[03:33] <babo> what's the best bitorrent client for ubuntu ? ... I'm looking for something simple ...
[03:33] <babo> I'm on gnome ...
[03:33] <MaKkY> Ald_s: PM's
[03:33] <Matthewv> babo, the default one works fine for me..
[03:33] <MikeW> Anyone know what the fastest mirror for dapper is in europe?
[03:34] <Henk> MikeW, that depends on the network you are on
[03:34] <skipmeister> anybody here running Ubuntu on a Tecra A7?
[03:34] <babo> Matthewv, what default one ?
[03:35] <borisn> alright, well ill ask again later...gotta go to work
[03:35] <theine> Henk: for f in $(find /path -type l); do if [ ! -e "$f" ] ; then echo
[03:35] <theine> Henk: maybe?
[03:35] <theine> Henk: for f in $(find /path -type l); do if [ ! -e "$f" ] ; then echo $f; fi; done
[03:35] <babo> UserName14, what do you mean ... get it to work with /var/www ?
[03:36] <babo> What's the default torrent client on dapper ?
[03:36] <theine> Henk: or: find -type l -exec file '{}' \; | grep broken | cut -d: -f1
[03:36] <Matthewv> babo, it doesn't actually show up in the menus.. but try to download or open a .torrent , and it will pop up :)
[03:36] <MikeW> ah, http://ftp.rz.tu-bs.de/ seems to be the most rockin for me :)
[03:36] <hmpedersen> I wonder when this thing will be done so I can try to get my grub back....
[03:36] <UserName14> babo: I can commit but I want it so it has an up to date version that is ALWAYS up to date in /var/www so that i can view what i am working on
[03:37] <Henk> theine, find may help me I'll try that
[03:37] <truz_`24> I wish the server install wasn't on a separate cd :-(
[03:37] <theine> Henk: the last command I posted works
[03:37] <babo> UserName14: I'm not a subversion expert by any means, but I didn't know that it goes beyond the standard checkin, checkout model ...
[03:37] <vincenz> ARGH
[03:37] <vincenz> I'm pulling my hair out
[03:38] <UserName14> babo: if it isnt then that makes it totaly useless for webdevelopment
[03:38] <UserName14> babo: it is possible to login via http:// (as long as i use the password) that version is ALWAYS up to date
[03:38] <cidco> anyone know where i can read on setting ubuntu up to compile packages?
[03:38] <cidco> or is this something unsupported?
[03:38] <vincenz> I used to have http_proxy=... set in my .bashrc pre-installation of dapper (aka upgrade).  For some stupid reason, even when I remove it now... it still has an http_proxy set I can't for the love of god find out where this is coming from!
[03:38] <babo> UserName14: when you are finished with something, then just check it in ... ?
[03:39] <babo> I guess you could build a repository in /var/www ...
[03:39] <UserName14> babo: you dont understand my problem i dont think, do you do webdev?
[03:39] <adamant1988> does anyone here use Dapper LTS and got EasyUbuntu to work?
[03:39] <Khamael> can I make a program give me a kind of sign when it crashes? the way it is now, it just silently dies
[03:39] <rpedro> cidco: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:39] <babo> UserName14: yes, but I've only just started to use subversion a couple of days ago ...
[03:39] <UserName14> babo: I am not interested in what i could do, i am sure there is a "proper way " and thats why i am asking for help
[03:40] <alluc> is it better to install compiz vanilla or quinn ?
[03:40] <UserName14> babo: are you using cvs with your www root, how are you doing it?
[03:40] <babo> UserName14: hmm ... maybe #svn then ?
[03:40] <cidco> rpedro, got that installed, now is there some info on making it always compile?
[03:40] <UserName14> babo: yeah i just found svn, i was typing a message as you replied
[03:40] <UserName14> babo: how did you setup svn with your webroot
[03:41] <babo> UserName14: ok, I'm interested to hear  how to set it up properly though ...
[03:41] <alz> Hello, does server cd includes x packages?
[03:41] <rpedro> cidco: download and compile source packages instead of installing binary ones?
[03:41] <jbroome> qlno
[03:41] <jameyg> I'm trying to get maradns working on my Ubuntu server installation. Whenever I try to start it, this is reported in syslog:  " Fatal error: Problem binding to port 53" How can I get it to bind properly?
[03:41] <jbroome> alz: no
[03:41] <babo> UserName14: I mainly just use it for webscripts at the moment, I haven't had a chance to configure it for /var/www yet though, so I hope you don't mind if i easedrop in #svn ... :-)
[03:41] <alz> jbroome: thanks
[03:42] <jbroome> jameyg: are you starting it as root?
[03:42] <cidco> rpedro, so is it a manual process? or can i still use the autoupdate? and just select the source repositories?
[03:42] <jameyg> jbroome: yes I am
[03:43] <babo> UserName14: I guess what I was planning on doing was setting up a repo in /var/www/ ... then co to start working on something, and ci to finish working on it ...
[03:43] <vincenz> helpl please :(
[03:43] <jbroome> does a netstat -ant | grep 53 show 53 already open?
[03:43] <rpedro> cidco: if you want to have packages always compiled when installing, you're using the wrong distro, you should use #gentoo
[03:43] <Matthewv> vincenz, whats up?
[03:43] <babo> so that svn would kinda run along side the server ...
[03:43] <cidco> rpedro, thats what i have used in the past
[03:43] <vincenz> I used to have http_proxy=... set in my .bashrc pre-installation of dapper (aka upgrade).  For some stupid reason, even when I remove it now... it still has an http_proxy set I can't for the love of god find out where this is coming from!
[03:43] <samu> After I installed kubuntu-desktop the boot screen was taken over by kubuntu. How can i return it to ubuntu?
[03:43] <cidco> just wanted to give this a shot, and was curious
[03:43] <jameyg> jbroome: no and I've checked the list manually too
[03:43] <vincenz> I'm grepping my HOMe
[03:43] <vincenz> but I have 6GB of EDocs in my home
[03:44] <vincenz> I grepped /etc as user to no avail
[03:44] <danfg> what is the ubuntu way of making gaim run at startup?
[03:44] <babo> best bittorrent client for ubuntu ... pls ?
[03:44] <jameyg> danfg: System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[03:44] <babo> I can't find utorrent ....
[03:44] <rpedro> cidco: I really don't know, but if that is possible in debian it most probably is in ubuntu too
[03:44] <adamant1988> Babo I like Azureus.
[03:44] <jameyg> danfg: then Startup Programs
[03:44] <danfg> jameyg: thanks :)
[03:45] <cidco> rpedro, thanks for the help, ill see what google turns up.
[03:45] <babo> adamant1988, it's not in the repos though ...
[03:45] <jameyg> jbroome: any ideas? I have HTTP, HTTPS and SSH running on ports 80, 443 and 22 respectively. I just don't understand why maradns refuses to bind.
[03:45] <jbroome> jameyg: i'm not sure.
[03:45] <adamant1988> babo you can add more repos =\
[03:46] <jameyg> jbroome: ok thanks anyway
[03:46] <UserName14> babo: http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#website-auto-update (i have not tested it yet, but that is the proper way) :)
[03:46] <adamant1988> babo also there should be SOME form of bit torrent client in there.
[03:46] <babo> adamant1988, I have the multiverse ...
[03:46] <adamant1988> do you have the multiverse and universal repos?
[03:46] <vincenz> anyone any clues on where my system could be getting http_proxy from?
[03:46] <Matthewv> *universe
[03:46] <prammy> none of the restricted formats codecs can play wmv9s right ?
[03:47] <babo> how does one use apt to search the repos ... I've read the man pages, but they don't seem to say anything about it ... ?
[03:47] <babo> UserName14: ok thanks ...
[03:47] <daqing> hello,everyone
[03:48] <KenSentMe> babo apt-cache search text
[03:48] <samu> Seems like I have to mess with this usplash somehow?
[03:48] <daqing> i have a problem about ubuntu 6
[03:48] <daqing> may anyone help me?
[03:48] <babo> KenSentMe: thanks ...
[03:48] <KenSentMe> !justask
[03:48] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[03:48] <vincenz> Matthewv: any clues?
[03:48] <R0b0t> no firefox 1.5.0.4 in repo?
[03:49] <void^> babo: for azureus you should use the beta at azureus.sf.net anyways, there's a problem with ubuntu's gtk+ version and the release version of azureus
[03:49] <vincenz> Matthewv: it's stopping me from using the upgrade tool
[03:49] <Matthewv> vincenz, sry, not really.. I'm not too what the problem is..
[03:49] <KenSentMe> daqing just ask your question
[03:49] <babo> void^: ok thanks, azureus is a bit flashy for me ... I think I'll stick to qtorrent ...
[03:50] <vincenz> Matthewv: the problem is easy http_proxy (the environment variable) is set and I don't know from where
[03:50] <daqing> it is my first time to use linux, and i format a partition into ext3
[03:50] <meta> I was on flight 5 and decided to upgrade to release version dapper.... now I get the Xserver crash on boot, AND my usb keyboard doesn't work so I can't try anything like reconfiguring X in safe mode
[03:50] <Ron_o> can someone tell me from looking at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15188  if my sound problem (no sound) is hardware related or software related.
[03:50] <roe> I've tried every repository with all the different options, I can ping the servers but I can't connect to them using neither apt-get or synaptics
[03:50] <Matthewv> vincenz, you can't set it back urself?
[03:50] <daqing> so i want to know if the ubuntu support the ext3?
[03:50] <adamant1988> meta: did you back up your data?
[03:50] <Matthewv> or remove it
[03:50] <byen> Guys, I need help getting networkmanager to work on dapper and i need help
[03:51] <Selaiah> sudo ifup ra0Interface doesn't accept private ioctl...set (8BE2): Invalid argumentFailed to bring up ra0.
[03:51] <Selaiah> Anyone know wha tmight be causing this?
[03:51] <Ron_o> daqing, yes.
[03:51] <vincenz> Matthewv: well not in GUIS
[03:51] <meta> adamant1988, yeah I am booted in flight 5 again on my hdd with all my data
[03:51] <KenSentMe> daqing when you install ubuntu from the install cd it will format a partition for you and use ext3
[03:51] <meta> adamant1988, was a blank hdd for the dapper install
[03:51] <e-head> uname -a give me:  Linux tokyo 2.6.12-9-686 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:25:32 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux.  Should I be running 2.6.12-10 instead ? Does the odd/even issue (odd being experimental) only pertain to major kernel releases ?
[03:51] <adamant1988> meta: oh, ok, I was going to suggest trying that
[03:51] <daqing> but when i finish installing the ubuntu and reboot from the harddisk,i meet a error
[03:51] <adamant1988> meta: it's possible that you have a bad burn?
[03:51] <KenSentMe> daqing what error?
[03:52] <Ron_o> what erroe daqing ?
[03:52] <adamant1988> or maybe a corrupt iso
[03:52] <meta> adamant1988, did md5 on the iso, and did the check media on boot of disk (keyboard works in grub...)
[03:52] <daqing> it says: grub loading ,please wait  stage1.5       error 17
[03:52] <adamant1988> that's odd...
[03:52] <adamant1988> and dapper flight 5 worked?
[03:52] <meta> yeah
[03:52] <adamant1988> meta: what's your hardware?
[03:52] <Matthewv> vincenz, maybe 'export $http_proxy ='? or something like that.. i don't know too much about that sry
[03:53] <adamant1988> meta: and are you getting any errors
[03:53] <meta> adamant1988, so between flight 5 and release, usb happy hacker keyboard has stopped working
[03:53] <CompuChip|AFK> Hmm, I do a chmod as root and I get: Operation not permitted. What can be the cause ?
[03:53] <vincenz> Anyone know why my $http_proxy var is set even though I don't set it in my .bashrc?  It used to be set in my .bashrc before I upgraded.... and now I removed it but for some stupid reason it's still set everywhere!
[03:53] <meta> adamant1988, yeah there are some modprobe dependency errors, I didn't write them down, I will try mounting that hdd from here and checking it
[03:53] <Selaiah> When i try to do: sudo ifup ra0 - I get the error: Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... set (8BE2): Invalid argument Failed to bring up ra0. -- Anyone know what might be causing this?
[03:53] <adamant1988> you should write them down if you can
[03:54] <adamant1988> I can't help you much because my knowledge is limited but someone else could.
[03:54] <MaKkY> need help installing a .deb
[03:54] <daqing> so what should i do?
[03:54] <CompuChip> MaKkY, tried dpkg -i package.deb ?
[03:54] <MaKkY> it gives me an error.... "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs
[03:55] <danfg> i need something run before /etc/fstab is mounted, where should i put this instruction
[03:55] <daqing> i am sorry ,i have to leave for half an hour,
[03:55] <daqing> i will be back in 30 minutes
[03:56] <MaKkY> CompuChip: it gives me an error.... "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs
[03:56] <CompuChip> But how  is it possible that I'm not allowed to chmod as root. I mean, if root can't do it, then who can?
[03:56] <vincenz> Help :(
[03:56] <CompuChip> MaKkY: I'm very bad at dependencies, sorry. I just upgraded my distro because I couldn't install a package :)
[03:56] <makko> why can't i connect to the x11 server in a root konsole (after i run "sudo konsole")?
[03:57] <danfg> hmm.. i have to losetup a loop device before /etc/fstab mounts it, where should i put that command? it seems rc.local runs after it all
[03:57] <danfg> oh forget it :)
[03:57] <meheren> i just did a fresh install and for my trash it says garbage bin... anoyes the heck outa me how can i change it back to "trash"
[03:57] <danfg> actually i need something mounted before the losetup works
[03:58] <ndazza> i rather like garbage bin... :)
[03:58] <meheren> ndazza, im not you onfortunetally...
[03:58] <meheren> \lol
[03:58] <cdubya> ugh...anyone have difficulties with their Dapper upgrade.....? Mine's busted and doesn't seem to want to cooperate in the least now. X won't start....can't complete the dist-upgrade....man, I knew I should have just left well enough alone and stayed on Breezy
[03:58] <danfg> garbage bin is ghey! trash is more manly
[03:58] <babo> can someone have a look at an xserver problem for me pls ... ? http://pastebin.com/762310
[03:58] <vincenz> Anyone know why my $http_proxy environment variable is set even though I can't find any file that sets it???
[03:58] <ndazza> trash is more american
[03:58] <meheren> danfg, thank you!
[03:58] <kimo> Guys, I wanna demo webmin, can I find a demo site anywhere ?
[03:58] <danfg> lol
[03:59] <meheren> ndazza, i live in america
[03:59] <babo> I can't get qtorrent to start. And I can't find it on my gnome panel after installing it and doing a killall gnome-panel ... :-(
[03:59] <roe> any thoughts on why apt won't connect to the repos? I can browse to them fine
[03:59] <meheren> sooo how do i change it form grbage bi to trash
[03:59] <ndazza> meheren: it isn't hard to guess that i don't :)
[03:59] <Juhaz> meheren, gconftool-2 -t str -s /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_name 'foo'
[03:59] <CompuChip> Hmm, I just noticed that when I create a new dir as normal user it's owned by root. It's a FAT32 disk. Do I need some options in fstab?
[03:59] <danfg> kimo, try googling for webmin demo
[03:59] <babo> someone help me ... I want rip off the MIAA before I go to bed tonight ...
[03:59] <meheren> juhaz, thx
[03:59] <ndazza> meheren: no idea... tried right clicking on it? selecting it and pressing f2?
[03:59] <babo> if you are listening MIAA, I'm only joking ...
[04:00] <Selaiah> When i try to do: sudo ifup ra0 - I get the error: Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... set (8BE2): Invalid argument Failed to bring up ra0. -- Anyone know what might be causing this?
[04:00] <meheren> juhaz, umm didn't work...
[04:00] <makko> why can't i connect to the x11 server in a root konsole (after i run "sudo konsole")?
[04:00] <meheren> juhaz, it executed without any erros but it didn't change the name...
[04:01] <babo> can anyone help me here with an X problem ... ?  http://pastebin.com/762324
[04:01] <vincenz> Anyone know why my http_proxy variable is getting set even though I can not find it defined in any file in /etc nor in .bashrc nor in .profile?  I tried grepping my system to no avail!
[04:01] <george_looney> makko, that has to do with permissions
[04:01] <makko> george_looney: how do i change permissions? which permissions?
[04:02] <babo> actually this is probably a better view ... http://pastebin.com/762327
[04:02] <meheren> i have a question after doing a fresh dapper install my res size wen tdown to 1280x960.. i have a 1600x1200 screen so this is kinda anoying how do i get my resolution size back up to 1600x1200?
[04:02] <rpedro> meheren: administration >> language support
[04:02] <george_looney> makko, you are running the X Window (GUI) as a normal user...
[04:02] <meheren> rpedro, ok.. thx
[04:02] <george_looney> ....but when you do a "sudo konsole", the konsole rpogram is ...
[04:02] <CompuChip> Anyone knows something about permissions here?
[04:03] <george_looney> ... running as root and it cannot access the X display of the normal user (YOU)!
[04:03] <meheren> predro, ok the screen came up with a bunch of languages to select.. what am i supposed to do?
[04:03] <jdrugo> hi, i've got an odd problem: after getting my laptop serviced (they've replaced the motherboard) the ethernet card won't work anymore. it still works in windows, and the kernel module (e1000) loads without error, but ifconfig gives 'eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device'. Any ideas?
[04:04] <kimo> try xhost +localhost
[04:04] <ndazza> makko: try running a normal konsole. once it's running, run 'exec sudo -s'
[04:05] <rpedro> meheren: the combobox on the bottom, probably change it to English(USA) if it isn't already
[04:05] <meheren> ok
[04:05] <rpedro> meheren: if it is, then i don't know...
[04:05] <meheren> it is already...
[04:05] <Juhaz> meheren, well, then those crazy ubuntu fellows have patched it. works in upstream... did you try what ndazza said?
[04:05] <ndazza> makko: this is the recommended way to do it, as it doesn't open any security holes
[04:05] <extern> does wine work under 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:06] <ballball> Can I change the screen resolution when installing ubuntu from live cd? The resolution drop-down never shows up, and Im stuck at 640*480
[04:06] <usuario> cristo
[04:06] <meheren> ahh no..?
[04:06] <ndazza> i think what i said was 'change country' or something similar
[04:06] <ndazza> as in, move :p
[04:06] <ndazza> someone else suggested using gconf-editor to modify the name
[04:06] <ndazza> i tried that too and it didn't work for me either
[04:06] <rpedro> meheren: I also have configured as english(USA) and mine says 'Wastebasket' :)
[04:07] <meheren> ok
[04:07] <danfg> ballball: if you're installing dapper, in the startup screen, you can press F4 or F6 (dont remember which, just look at the screen) and select another resolution
[04:07] <ballball> danfg: k, thanks
[04:07] <meheren> config-editor came up where is the value to change the trash?
[04:08] <hmpedersen> Matthewv, you there?
[04:08] <ceca> hi
[04:08] <ema92> !paste
[04:08] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[04:09] <Jemt_> Greetz. Am I the only one having grapical erros on my buttons in Dapper ?  http://powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png
[04:09] <daqing> i am back now
[04:09] <vincenz> Why does openoffice not launch in dapper?
[04:09] <MaKkY> i need Mozilla Active X....
[04:09] <daqing> do anyone know how to solve my problem?
[04:09] <vincenz> ** (process:10079): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...
[04:09] <byen> Jemt, I had that issue too but changing the theme seems to have fixed it
[04:10] <Jemt_> byen: Ah, ok, I'll try that - thanks :)
[04:10] <MaKkY> !caps
[04:10] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[04:10] <Frogzoo> vincenz: not sure, try opening from a terminal to read error msgs
[04:10] <MaKkY> Mozilla Active X...
[04:10] <vincenz> I get the following error when launching oo
[04:10] <vincenz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/zIA3fr17.html
[04:11] <vincenz> oocalc in this case
[04:11] <redrum> DEATH to ATi
[04:11] <Hagbard_Ub> hmm... maybe switchin to Debian later
[04:12] <vincenz> how do I fix this?
[04:12] <hmpedersen> Allright.. CAn anyone help me install grub from the live cd?
[04:13] <daqing> after i install the ubuntu  6 follow the installation guide ,i meet a error like this :  grub loading ,please wait .....  error 17
[04:13] <babo> when I try to open a torrent with bittorrent it asks me to 'save location for bittorrent session' ... the I just type 'name_of_movie' and it tells me bad file information ... ?
[04:13] <prammy> has anyone been able to get wmv9 files to play on totem ?
[04:13] <vincenz> Do I need to mail this somewhere as bugreport?
[04:13] <KenSentMe> daqing maybe you get more information on this forum topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189681&highlight=grub+error+17
[04:14] <KenSentMe> daqing do you have more hard drives in your system?
[04:14] <daqing> no ,i just have one harddisk
[04:14] <vincenz> Frogzoo: bugreport it?
[04:14] <makko> ndazza: when i run "sudo konsole", i cannot open any x11 app from that konsole; but, when i run "sudo xterm", i can run any x11 app. how do you explain that? it doesn't look like a permissions issue to me.
[04:14] <suarta> hello everybody
[04:14] <vincenz> !bugreport
[04:14] <ndazza> vincenz: do you have an ati card?
[04:14] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vincenz
[04:15] <vincenz> ndazza: yes I do
[04:15] <vincenz> x300
[04:15] <ndazza> is it working okay? do you get 3d acceleration?
[04:15] <vincenz> I had flgrx on 5.05
[04:15] <vincenz> and it worked fine
[04:15] <jahshua> hello
[04:15] <makko> ndazza: no, forget about 3d, i am only talking about plain x11 issues
[04:15] <vincenz> erm fglrx
[04:15] <suarta> I have ubuntu dapper on acer aspire 5610 and I can't find the wireless interface. any help please?
[04:15] <jahshua> hello
[04:15] <Jemt_> There is not a fix available for the graphic errors in the default theme in Ubuntu? (Button error : http://powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png)  ?
[04:16] <Hagbard_Ub> hmmm...
[04:16] <Jemt_> That's the only theme I like
[04:16] <vincenz> makko: he was referring to me ;)
[04:16] <Hagbard_Ub> any good WM for Ubuntu?
[04:16] <makko> vincenz: oh, ok
[04:16] <Hagbard_Ub> not gnome/kde/xfce/fluxbox
[04:16] <ndazza> in the pastebin there are lots of errors related to fglrx. maybe that module is interacting badly with the libraries/whatevers that openoffice.org needs
[04:16] <vincenz> ndazza: how do I check if normal 3d works fine?
[04:16] <jahshua> hey anyone have any good links on using PPPOE /w Ubuntu
[04:16] <jahshua> please
[04:16] <vincenz> ndazza: correct and I would think this is a bug... so I wonder how to fix this
[04:16] <ndazza> Hagbard_Ub: icewm? blackbox? tvwm?
[04:16] <vincenz> ndazza: a) as report and b) being able to actually use OOo atm
[04:16] <Hagbard_Ub> ndazza, Never tryed... apt-get is what?
[04:17] <ndazza> vincenz: easiest way is to install something like tuxracer. if it runs decently you have 3d acceleration
[04:17] <ndazza> vincenz: to disable, not sure. dapper won't install for me unfortunately
[04:17] <vincenz> ndazza: aha fglrxinfo gives me the same
[04:17] <Hagbard_Ub> vincenz, glxgears -printfps would do it
[04:17] <redrum> ati drivers are crapola
[04:17] <CompuChip> Hagbard_Ub: apt-get is a command-line package manager
[04:17] <rpedro> !tell suarta about wifi
[04:17] <Hagbard_Ub> CompuChip, i know?!
[04:17] <jahshua> !tell jahshua about PPPOE
[04:17] <redrum> ive been running things in 3d fine, but ill exit some 3d applicatoins and X will simply restart.
[04:17] <vincenz> redrum: thank you...that's very helpful
[04:18] <makko> why can't i connect to the x11 server in a root konsole (after i run "sudo konsole")? ndazza: when i run "sudo konsole", i cannot open any x11 app from that konsole; but, when i run "sudo xterm", i can run any x11 app. how do you explain that? it doesn't look like a permissions issue to me.
[04:18] <suarta> rpedro: you have any clue please?
[04:18] <Hagbard_Ub> but i wanted to know i it was in the repos and wich "adress" it had
[04:18] <luca__> hello
[04:18] <ndazza> Hagbard_Ub: apt-cache search tvwm (etc)
[04:18] <vincenz> I have an actual bug with fglrx in Dapper... Where do I submit a bugreport, and how do I keep going so that I can temporarily bypass this bug?
[04:18] <Hagbard_Ub> ndazza, well.. okey
[04:18] <ndazza> Hagbard_Ub: should be in universe i guess
[04:18] <redrum> vincenz, no ive just spent nearly a week now working around issues and have finally given up, this weekend i am buying an nvidia card and making artwork of my ati card.
[04:18] <doktoreas> hi to all
[04:18] <KenSentMe> !bug
[04:18] <vincenz> redrum: I have a laptop, gfx card changing isn't an optin
[04:18] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[04:19] <luca__> udev is causing a lot of problems in ubuntu, with regard to /dev/null being not writeable. x does not start. how to fix this?
[04:19] <doktoreas> got a problem with dapper...as i plug in my pcmcia modem card
[04:19] <KenSentMe> !tell vincenz about bug
[04:19] <doktoreas> system freeze
[04:19] <ballball> That didn\t work B<
[04:19] <rpedro> suarta: try following the steps on the howto first
[04:19] <vincenz> KenSentMe: thx
[04:19] <vincenz> redrum: any idea on how to use OO atm?
[04:19] <suarta> rpedro: thks a lot
[04:19] <ndazza> Hagbard_Ub: some people at my LUG were also playing around with a cvs version of e17, it looked very nice and was quite light
[04:19] <Keigo-kun> Is there any good program like mIRC for Ubuntu? I tried to compile xchat, but it just won't work, no matter how many packages I download
[04:20] <jameyg> Keigo-kun: why don't you just install it rather than compile it?
[04:20] <Jhair> Keigo-kun: why compile.
[04:20] <Hagbard_Ub> Keigo-kun, sudo apt-get install xchat how hard is that?
[04:20] <jameyg> lmao
[04:20] <jenny_> hello
[04:20] <tr00st> Just got xgl and compiz setup, shift+backspace seems to kill X, just wondering if anyone knows how to disable this...
[04:20] <ndazza> Keigo-kun: xchat is installed by default (i think). try just typing xchat from a console
[04:20] <Selaiah> When i try to do: sudo ifup ra0 - I get the error: Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... set (8BE2): Invalid argument Failed to bring up ra0. -- Anyone know what might be causing this?
[04:20] <Keigo-kun> Because there isn't any xchat package for ubuntu on their site :(
[04:20] <brandon_> do i need to unblock 2401 to make cvs connections?
[04:20] <jenny_> i just recently upgraded to dapper and for some reason it doesn't recognize the kbd module
[04:20] <Hagbard_Ub> tr00st, Search on www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:20] <ndazza> Keigo-kun: try using synaptic package manager
[04:20] <Hagbard_Ub> Keigo-kun, Do you have uni/multi enabled?
[04:21] <jenny_> so i can't startx
[04:21] <Keigo-kun> I have uni enabled
[04:21] <makko> Keigo-kun: try kvirc.
[04:21] <Hagbard_Ub> then it should be there
[04:21] <Hagbard_Ub> irssi <3
[04:21] <Keigo-kun> Anyway, I want to be able to compile programs anyway.. I thought Ubuntu came with the nessecary tools..
[04:21] <jameyg> Keigo-kun: so sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:21] <jenny_> i tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-kbd but it says i have the latest stuff
[04:21] <redrum> !gcc
[04:21] <jameyg> Keigo-kun: apt-get install build-essential
[04:21] <jenny_> anyone have anythoughts?
[04:21] <ubotu> gcc is, like, the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[04:21] <ndazza> xchat is in main
[04:21] <FeestBijtje> Hello peeps
[04:21] <Keigo-kun> but even after installing make, glibc-dev and build-essential, it won't work
[04:21] <Hagbard_Ub> Keigo-kun, nope... you have yto install some
[04:21] <ndazza> see 'apt-cache policy xchat'
[04:22] <Keigo-kun> It say it can't find -lperl in some folder
[04:22] <makko> Keigo-kun: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:22] <directhex|work> what has replaced "passwd passwd/make user boolean false" as the preseed mantra to avoid creating any user accounts?
[04:22] <Keigo-kun> I allready have build-essential
[04:22] <Keigo-kun> it's not enough
[04:22] <Jhair> Keigo-kun: it doesn't make sense to compile xchat when it is available from the repositories.
[04:22] <Keigo-kun> everything up to make works
[04:22] <makko> Keigo-kun: anyway, i guess you will love kvirc.
[04:22] <directhex|work> why not just go "apt-get build-dep xchat"?
[04:23] <hajuu> Hey guys.. Whenever I try to load xdm or gdm I get the message: "Could not open default font 'fixed' ".. but I cant find any xfonts package like that.. any ideas?
[04:23] <Keigo-kun> I didn't know xchat was allready supplied, I looked for it in the synaptic thing
[04:23] <ndazza> Keigo-kun: sudo apt-get install libperl-dev
[04:23] <freakabcd> hi all
[04:23] <roe> so my apt issue if anyone is interested for some reason all HTTP sources fail but FTP ones work fine
[04:23] <Keigo-kun> ndazza, I'll try that
[04:23] <vagikim> hi all
[04:23] <Keigo-kun> brb, hopefully >_>
[04:23] <freakabcd> anyone know how to install the utopia fonts from Adobe on ubuntu?
[04:23] <ndazza> Keigo-kun: it's definately available through synaptic in breezy
[04:23] <directhex|work> Keigo-kun, packages.ubuntu.com/xchat
[04:23] <Selaiah> When i try to do: sudo ifup ra0 - I get the error: Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... set (8BE2): Invalid argument Failed to bring up ra0. -- Anyone know what might be causing this?
[04:23] <Selaiah> Anyone seen that before?
[04:24] <freakabcd> i can see all the files on CTAN, but have no clue as to how to install :(
[04:24] <directhex|work> xchat is in universe on dapper
[04:24] <hajuu> I thought xchat was part of the default install :/
[04:24] <hajuu> except the server install maybe
[04:24] <directhex|work> xchat-gnome is
[04:24] <hajuu> ah.
[04:24] <redrum> once you open up your repositories it is
[04:25] <g-nome> anyone using xgl+compiz?
[04:25] <g-nome> if yes, does it also crash a LOT (or strange behaviour sometimes)?
[04:25] <extern> Is there a way to make ubuntu to distribute the network speeds for all applications a little more equally? The first application gets highest speeds.
[04:25] <hajuu> Whenever I try to load xdm or gdm I get the message: "Could not open default font 'fixed' ".. but I cant find any xfonts package like that.. any ideas?
[04:26] <Healot> extern: can you do load balancing?
[04:26] <extern> Healot: I don't know what this is :P
[04:26] <g-nome> xgl anyone?
[04:26] <tr00st> g-nome, I'm using it
[04:27] <ocx32> whats the default passsword for root
[04:27] <extern> Healot, how to make that load balancing?
[04:27] <tr00st> doesn't seem to have too many problems, but I've only been using it for a couple of days
[04:27] <freakabcd> ocx32, there is none!
[04:27] <void^> ubotu: tell ocx32 about root
[04:27] <g-nome> tr00st: does it also crash a LOT (or strange behaviour sometimes)?
[04:27] <tr00st> doesn't seem to
[04:27] <g-nome> tr00st: form dapper repos?
[04:27] <ocx32> i didnt provide any password
[04:27] <luca__> udev is causing a lot of problems in ubuntu, with regard to /dev/null being not writeable. x does not start. how to fix this?
[04:27] <tr00st> believe so, I'll just check
[04:27] <babo> when I double click on the downloaded torrent files it tells me that their extension says they are bittorrent seed files, but the contents is in plain text. Am I downloading them using the wrong mime or something ? I'm just going to pirate bay and pressing download ..
[04:27] <Zambezi> How can I remove hx1 and hdx2 in the terminal? Hdx1 is 40 MB so I guess the rest is on hdx2? I don't understand the application so please just tell me how I can erase them so I get one partion instead of two?
[04:28] <bullium> I've got a small issue, my rig is a Dell latitude c610 running 6.06, I am getting strange dots on my buttons? I was wondering if it was a radeon video card issue?
[04:28] <g-nome> tr00st: what does happen, when you minimize a window?
[04:28] <bullium> when I over my mouse on them they go away
[04:28] <d34db14ck> my p2p program downloads with a very small rate. can i configure it somehow or can i get another one?
[04:28] <tr00st> g-nome, it zooms down in a funky way, doesn't seem to have any problem
[04:28] <ocx32> is ubuntu good to be used as a serveR?
[04:29] <daqing>     kenSentMe,can i speak to u seperately
[04:29] <luca__> hmmm any idea? anyone?
[04:29] <babo> how do i turn off iptables ? ... they don't seem to have init scripts ... /etc/init.d/iptables stop ... ??
[04:29] <tr00st> and yeah, think it's out of multiverse or something
[04:29] <g-nome> tr00st: zooms down to the bar? For me, it simply disappears? i don't know where!?
[04:29] <freakabcd> ocx32, question to ponder over: Why do they want to provide 5 yrs server support?
[04:29] <tr00st> hm, weird
[04:29] <Fjodor> ocx32: I think, with this release, they made a specific server install CD
[04:30] <tr00st> g-nome, does it show up on alt-tab?
[04:30] <rubso> guys, is there a way to play "mms" protocol ?
[04:30] <jenny_> does anyone know where the keyboard modules are stored for xorg.conf after upgrade i can't load them :(
[04:30] <daqing> i am still puzzled after i read the info in the forums
[04:30] <g-nome> tr00st: not every time
[04:30] <Tobberoth> Wow, it worked.
[04:30] <g-nome> tr00st:  when you minimize, where does the window go TO ?
[04:30] <Tobberoth> I guess that hour of xchat compiling i spent yesterday was sorta wasted >_>
[04:30] <tr00st> it goes down to the bar at the bottom of the screen
[04:31] <ocx32> i wanna run apache on it
[04:31] <ocx32> and mysql
[04:31] <d34db14ck> any one knows of a bit torrent like client for ubuntu?
[04:31] <ocx32> is it good?
[04:31] <ocx32> i am a slackware user
[04:31] <hajuu> Whenever I try to load xdm or gdm I get the message: "Could not open default font 'fixed' ".. but I cant find any xfonts package like that.. any ideas?
[04:31] <jameyg> ocx32: you want to run Apache and MySQL on Ubuntu?
[04:31] <ocx32> yea
[04:31] <g-nome> d34db14ck: azureus?
[04:31] <d34db14ck> g-nome:  ok thanx
[04:32] <jameyg> ocx32: yeah it's the perfect platform IMO for hosting, but I recommend doing a server install for a production server.
[04:32] <g-nome> tr00st:  when you minimize, where does the window go to?
[04:32] <jameyg> ocx32: you can just "sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server"
[04:32] <Tobberoth> What do I need to create, compile and start java applications in Ubuntu?
[04:32] <d34db14ck> can i mount ntfs partition under ubuntu?
[04:32] <jameyg> g-nome: just like in win32, the window sits in the taskbar at the bottom of the screen
[04:32] <Healot> Tobberoth: JDK, maybe an IDE?
[04:32] <void^> !ntfs
[04:32] <tr00st> g-nome, it goes down to the window list at the bottom of my screen
[04:32] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[04:33] <Waerner> d34db14ck, yes :)
[04:33] <tr00st> zooms down towards its button
[04:33] <ocx32> can i do a server install now that i installed the system?
[04:33] <Healot> !java
[04:33] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:33] <ocx32> can i reinstall them?
[04:33] <Tobberoth> Healot, what kind of JDK? Can I just download from Suns website, or should I use the package manager?
[04:33] <d34db14ck> but then i can't write on it?
[04:33] <Waerner> d34db14ck, that's right
[04:33] <jameyg> ocx32: I think you can remove ubuntu-desktop and that might do it.
[04:33] <Healot> follow that link, Tobberoth
[04:33] <Tobberoth> allright, thanks
[04:33] <d34db14ck> Waerner: crap :P
[04:33] <Waerner> d34db14ck, yeah, it is :P
[04:34] <g-nome> tr00st: hmm, it does not work for me !? Also sometimes a little window pops out where i can some windows in it, do you have the same?
[04:34] <d34db14ck> Waerner:  so how can i download files bigger than 4g?
[04:34] <method|> anyone know how to make the screen brighter in linux? My screen just isnt as bright as it is in Xp
[04:34] <daqing> kenSentMe, can u give me any further infomation?
[04:34] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Which filesystems don't allow that?
[04:34] <tr00st> g-nome, don't think so, haven't had anything that fits that description
[04:34] <jameyg> g-nome: are you even running GNOME?
[04:34] <d34db14ck> Fjodor:  fat 32 lol
[04:34] <d34db14ck> should i make them linux
[04:34] <d34db14ck> ?
[04:34] <Waerner> d34db14ck, but I think you can write on FAT32, so if you have a hdd that you want to access from both Win and Linux, you might convert it to FAT32 or something else that's compatible
[04:35] <d34db14ck> Waerner:  yeah but i can't download games bigger than 4g on fat
[04:35] <Healot> FAT32 gives the most compat, but the least secure FS ever
[04:35] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Make it ext3 or reiserfs. There are windows drivers for those, though I haven't got any experience with them
[04:35] <Healot> FAT32 file limit is 4GB. d34db14ck
[04:35] <g-nome> d34db14ck: actually, you can
[04:35] <johnnowak> d34db14ck: why not use ntfs?
[04:35] <g-nome> with azureus, there's a special option for this
[04:35] <jameyg> d34db14ck: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[04:36] <d34db14ck> Fjodor:  i run linux/windoze now but once i get myself going on linux i will sht on windoze
[04:36] <void^> g-nome: no, you cannot
[04:36] <d34db14ck> so does linux FS alow files larger than 4g?
[04:36] <Healot> d34db14ck: btw third party FS driver, use at own risk
[04:36] <Healot> d34db14ck: yes
[04:36] <Samuli^> I don't think there's windows drivers for ext3. Ext2 is supported though.
[04:36] <directhex|work> d34db14ck, all linux file systems do, yes
[04:36] <daqing> does anyone ever meet a "error 17" after installing the ubuntu 6 in a single harddisk?
[04:36] <d34db14ck> Healot: thanx dude
[04:36] <jameyg> Healot: isn't pretty much everything "third party"? ;)
[04:36] <Waerner> daqing, GRUB ERROR 17?
[04:36] <daqing> yes
[04:37] <g-nome> tr00st: which graphic card do you use?
[04:37] <johnnowak> d34db14ck: why can't you use NTFS... ?
[04:37] <Waerner> daqing, yes I have. But I reinstalled the OS... And that solved it...
[04:37] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Samuli^ might be right about ext3, but reiserfs should be the way to go then
[04:37] <Healot> jameyg: don't have to be pretty, third party refers to non-ubuntu apps/driver etc
[04:37] <tr00st> g-nome, got a geforce fx5700le
[04:37] <slackern> I just download things on my ext3 partition and read from it only when im using windows.
[04:37] <d34db14ck> johnnowak: i can't install win xp on my machine because of hardware issues so w98 is the only way
[04:37] <johnnowak> d34db14ck: ah, got it.
[04:37] <Waerner> daqing, perhaps you can re-install GRUB only?
[04:38] <daqing> Waerne, i reinstalled the os also,but the problem continued
[04:38] <d34db14ck> johnnowak:  so in ex2 2 ther's no problem right?
[04:38] <tr00st> g-nome, running the nvidia-glx drivers too, if that's relevant
[04:38] <g-nome> tr00st: aha nivia, ok, that explains everything :-) fit DOES WORK correctly... for ati it's not the case
[04:38] <johnnowak> d34db14ck: i know nothing about windows :)
[04:38] <tr00st> ah
[04:38] <Waerner> daqing, did you overwrite the old MBR?
[04:38] <Healot> ext2 is prone to crashes :-
[04:38] <d34db14ck> johnnowak:  good for you :D
[04:38] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: ext2 isn't journaling, which you may want
[04:38] <tr00st> g-nome, presume you're ati then?
[04:38] <Waerner> I think the problem is located there
[04:38] <tatra> Can anyone help me with formatting a hard drive? I tried to install fedora but now want to install ubuntu over the entire thing but cannot format the partition
[04:38] <jameyg> Healot: ah right, gotcha
[04:39] <daqing> i do not have other os in my harddisk ,
[04:39] <g-nome> tr00st: guessed right :-) and i'm NOT satisfied :-(
[04:39] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: reiser is, is mightily well supported on Linux, and there are drivers for win
[04:39] <Waerner> tatra: You can format it before installing Ubuntu with the Ubuntu Installation CD
[04:39] <d34db14ck> once i figure how to download iso bigger that 4g and burn them on dvd windoze is gone
[04:39] <tr00st> :(
[04:39] <johnnowak> d34db14ck: Just use win32 for transfers. You can always break down files into chunks and reassemble them if you have files bigger than 4GB. Seems safe enough... The less drivers to install on Windows, the better.
[04:39] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Why not burn i Linux?
[04:39] <idefix> in what file is all the mountingbootupinfo displayed?
[04:39] <Akuma_> do they already ship the dapper from shipit?
[04:40] <Healot> d34db14ck: you can split the DVD file to smaller pieces..
[04:40] <tr00st> g-nome, I had an ati card before... switched to nvidia mainly for linux compatibility... seems like it paid off
[04:40] <nil> hello ubuntu-people!
[04:40] <daqing> Waerne , i once use " fdisk /mbr" before installing the ubuntu
[04:40] <Healot> Akuma_: they did
[04:40] <d34db14ck> Fjodor:  i'm a noob :)
[04:40] <Waerner> daqing, hmm, is the system installed recently? I mean, did the error appear directly after the installation?
[04:40] <g-nome> tr00st: i got their drivers working, even high FPS, BUT a LOT of bugs and incompabilities
[04:40] <d34db14ck> 2 days of ubuntu
[04:40] <tatra> Waerner: That's what I'm trying but when I look in gparted it says the partition is not readable
[04:40] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Shouldn't matter much
[04:40] <daqing> Waerne,yeah
[04:40] <nil> could someone suggest a good newsreader in console mode?
[04:40] <e-head> Is there a tool that can check out a disk to see if it's okay ? Do a sector by sector disk check, or something along those lines ?
[04:40] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: k3b is very easy to use
[04:40] <tr00st> g-nome, not much you can do about that, I guess... hope you don't have too many problems in future
[04:40] <nil> e-head: fsck ?
[04:40] <Healot> good old mutt or pine (even though pine is not free)
[04:40] <Kyral_FreeBSD> k3b is OWNAGE
[04:41] <nil> e-head: or badblocks
[04:41] <e-head> nil: well, there is no file system on the disk.
[04:41] <Waerner> daqing, I never used fdisk...
[04:41] <daqing> after rebooting from the harddisk\
[04:41] <e-head> ahh. thanks.
[04:41] <Akuma_> Healot: they have this message on the shipit page about how dapper will start shipping in early june .. it doesnt specify what version they are currently shipping though ...
[04:41] <nil> e-head: badblocks then
[04:41] <d34db14ck> Fjodor: all i need is music(check) movies( kinda ok) and download and burning . if i get this upi don't need dual OS and drivers for stuph and transfer
[04:41] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: MuttNG is a lot more fun than Mutt
[04:41] <Kyral_FreeBSD> e-head: badblocks....takes a LONG time
[04:41] <Healot> Akuma_: they SHIP DApper
[04:41] <daqing> Waerne ,so what should i do now ?
[04:41] <Waerner> tatra: Are you able to delete the partition entirely?
[04:41] <nil> e-head: but fsck also has a sector-check option
[04:41] <g-nome> tr00st: how do you configure you compiz? via gconf-tools?
[04:41] <johnnowak> Healot: And I prefer mutt to muttng. Take your pick. :)
[04:41] <Kyral_FreeBSD> e-head: If you do the Read-Write test
[04:41] <Healot> FINAL release of Dapper: Akuma_
[04:41] <e-head> Kyral_FreeBSD: is there a better tool ?
[04:41] <tr00st> g-nome, indeed
[04:41] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: k3b is seriously your friend for burning. sudo apt-get install k3b to get it
[04:41] <Healot> as i said good old mutt
[04:42] <e-head> I have reason to think this disk may have some bad sectors.
[04:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> nil: fsck's badblock checker calls badblocks :P
[04:42] <Akuma_> Healot: thanks..
[04:42] <Samuli^> Healot, What's so final about it? :)
[04:42] <nil> Kyral_FreeBSD: ok :)
[04:42] <Waerner> daqing, when the problem appeard to me, I booted from the CD and re-installed it, using the wizard, BUT with advanced options in the partition-part
[04:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: I prefer MuttNG
[04:42] <michelinux> Helo
[04:42] <tuxadmin> Hi there
[04:42] <Waerner> daqing, that allows you to manually set up your partitions
[04:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: Ditches the depend on Sendmail or Fetchmail
[04:42] <Healot> mutt sounds better :)
[04:42] <tatra> Waerner: nope, I tried the installer on the live CD to partition the entire hard drive but it crashes
[04:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: It IS mutt
[04:42] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: But it needs kde libs, so it might ask to download and install quite a few things. That isn't a problem, though
[04:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: Just the Next Generation :P
[04:42] <Healot> mutt - > dog
[04:43] <Waerner> tatra: Have you tried a real installation CD?
[04:43] <Healot> muttNG - mutt NO GOOD hehe
[04:43] <nil> Healot: good old mutt, for the news? there's not a better news-only soft?
[04:43] <majd> Hi
[04:43] <Healot> bleh
[04:43] <daqing> Waerne , what do u mean ?
[04:43] <chapium> how is mutt different from pine?
[04:43] <nil> hehe
[04:43] <tuxadmin> Is GRUB re-install when upgrading kernel through the updater ?? ( because I don't want to replace my actual /dev/hda mbr
[04:43] <daqing> i did not follow u
[04:43] <nil> chapium: <troll> mutt is free </troll>
[04:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> chapium: FSF free? :P
[04:43] <majd>  is it at all possible to mount my Dell Axim X51v PDA running windows mobile 5 under ubuntu? I"m only interested in mounting it, i don't need to sync it
[04:43] <d34db14ck> Fjodor:  well i'll figure it out eventually. i've installed a few progs. still need some p2p client and how to burn stuph
[04:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> majd: prolly
[04:43] <Healot> but since there is GNOmE/Kubuntu
[04:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> It might even automount
[04:44] <Waerner> daqing, just boot from the installation CD, like always. And when the installation options for the harddrives appear, choose the expert mode
[04:44] <daqing> Waerne , sorry for my poor english, i am a chinese
[04:44] <Juhaz> nil, slrn is pretty good
[04:44] <majd> Kyral_FreeBSD, i can't find ANYTHING on it though
[04:44] <Healot> i pprefer Thunderbird/Evolution
[04:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> majd: Dunno
[04:44] <nil> Juhaz: thanks
[04:44] <Samuli^> d34db14ck, you can burn stuff with your file manager (nautilus)
[04:44] <vincenz> Does anyone know a stopwatch utility that integrates tightly into gnome, so that I can just press a key-combo to have it start
[04:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: Kontact FTW
[04:44] <tatra> Waerner: No, is that my only choise? Downloading an install CD... :( I can't see a reason for this not working, the rest of the live CD is fine
[04:44] <toxic_> Does X have specific settings for displaying keyaboard language, or where can I conf that?
[04:45] <Zaggynl> Hi, I've tried some googling, but does anyone know of a guide on how to set up a caching dns server with ubuntu server?
[04:45] <Healot> xorg.conf, toxic_
[04:45] <iiiears> I need help applying a patch to my favorite app. Is there a link to a good tutorial?
[04:45] <daqing> Waerne ,and then?
[04:45] <toxic_> Healot, k thx
[04:45] <extern> How to fix this error? configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:45] <Waerner> tatra: I don't know for sure... Perhaps the live CD doesn't allow you to edit the boot records? I'm not sure :-/
[04:45] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Well, happy learning to you. Gotta read up for an exam now, but as you are in the process of, you'll find people in here most helpful :-)
[04:46] <steina1> Simple question: When will firefox 1.5.0.4 be available from apt-get?
[04:46] <Waerner> daqing, and then you are able to delete and create new partitions, and set their size etc
[04:46] <Healot> extern: you might want to prepend sudo
[04:46] <sharky__> if i can't find a version of software which meant for ubuntu is it ok to get the Debian Woody version?
[04:46] <d34db14ck> Fjodor:  thanx. good luck to u and me in exams . see ya laterz
[04:46] <directhex|work> sharky__, unlikely. what's the software?
[04:46] <oezguer> hi
[04:46] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: thanks. You too
[04:46] <extern> this is the line I wrote: sudo apt-get -b source wine
[04:46] <Samuli^> sharky__, probably no.
[04:46] <tatra> Waerner: hmm... the partition in question is set as boot. I guess I'l just have to try an install CD
[04:46] <iiiears> Fjodor - This channel is one of Ubuntus lesser talked about great features. :)
[04:46] <daqing> Waerne , i use this method the first time i installed the ubuntu
[04:46] <sharky__> Samuli^, valknut
[04:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Yes
[04:46] <Tobberoth> I have 140gb free unpartitioned space on my harddrive.. how do I make it a FAT32 partition, using Ubuntu?
[04:47] <Tobberoth> I have Windows on the primary partition, so nothing too fancy ;(
[04:47] <Samuli^> sharky__, can't you compile it from source?
[04:47] <sharky__> Samuli^, there is source so i could just build it i guess
[04:47] <Waerner> tatra, yeah, it might work, but as I said, I can't understand why you can't make the changes with a Live CD :-/
[04:47] <sharky__> eayh
[04:47] <sharky__> yeah
[04:47] <Waerner> tatra, sorry :(
[04:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/<device node>
[04:47] <Samuli^> sharky__, that would be the preferred method.
[04:47] <steina1> Tobberoth: Install gparted or qtparted
[04:47] <Waerner> daqing, same error then?
[04:47] <sharky__> Samuli^, got it thanks.
[04:47] <daqing> Waerne ,yeah
[04:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> steina1: The command is quicker :P
[04:47] <ToHellWithGA> Tobberoth: you could also use ext2 with ext2fsd in windows
[04:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> NO!!!
[04:48] <tatra> Waerner: poop, thanks for trying though. Unless there's something special I have to do as it's an ext2 filesystem
[04:48] <Zaggynl> yep
[04:48] <aLPHa_LeaK>  bonkschur
[04:48] <Zaggynl> I do it too
[04:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Jesus christ man
[04:48] <Zaggynl> works fine
[04:48] <ToHellWithGA> Kyral: it worked for me for a while
[04:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> My friend tried that
[04:48] <daqing> i can tell u that i installed the ubuntu on a primary partition
[04:48] <ToHellWithGA> it's a little slicker than fat32
[04:48] <Waerner> tatra, it shouldn't be :-/
[04:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> he was digging shit out of lost+found for a WEEK
[04:48] <iiiears> Waerner - though i haven't had a chance to use it isn't there a "Rescue" mode?
[04:48] <Zaggynl> funny
[04:48] <ToHellWithGA> i haven't had that problem
[04:48] <m6s> Hello
[04:48] <ToHellWithGA> your poor friend :(
[04:48] <michelinux> Hi, there. I have some problem with gnome cd-rom management
[04:48] <daqing> it is hda3
[04:48] <jameyg> m6s: hello
[04:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I consider those things as stable as Captive NTFS
[04:49] <m6s> I saw that 6.06 is out, can I do an upgrade without downloading the ISO?
[04:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> FAT32 works, we know it works
[04:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> m6s: yes
[04:49] <KenSentMe> !tell m6s about upgrade
[04:49] <m6s> apt-get dist-upgrade would do the job? What steps should I take?
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> it works.  it just needs defraggling occasionally
[04:49] <majd> anyone experienced with pocket pc's here?
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> m6s: don't forget the "sudo" ;)
[04:49] <Waerner> daqing, I'm afraid I don't have any answers left then... that's how I solved it :-/
[04:49] <Tobberoth> what is the linux text command to start a program? I've tried sudo geparted
[04:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> m6s: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all "breezy" to "dapper"
[04:49] <extern> this is a more detailed error message: http://pastebin.com/762430
[04:49] <daqing> Waerne , thank anyway
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> Tobberoth: which program?
[04:49] <Tobberoth> geparted
[04:49] <tatra> Waerner: Righty-ho, thanks for your time anyway
[04:49] <m6s> yio! only this change? :-) ouaou!
[04:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> m6s: save and then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> you might need to get it
[04:50] <Kyral_FreeBSD> m6s: anf then PRAY on the reboot :P
[04:50] <ToHellWithGA> Tobberoth: "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[04:50] <CokeNCode> ok, i just did apt-get install blackbox
[04:50] <Waerner> tatra, no problem, good luck :)
[04:50] <Tobberoth> No, I have just installed it
[04:50] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: I gave you the command
[04:50] <m6s> :-)
[04:50] <CokeNCode> will it now be my default windows manager ?
[04:50] <Waerner> daqing, check this out :)   http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[04:50] <hajuu> Whenever I try to load xdm or gdm I get the message: "Could not open default font 'fixed' ".. but I cant find any xfonts package like that.. any ideas?
[04:50] <Tobberoth> and just geparted in the terminal sorta works
[04:50] <ToHellWithGA> if you type gparted it should work
[04:50] <m6s> I am doing right now, in the case of nvidia, it's gonna be all ok?
[04:50] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: What is the name of the drive? /dev/what?
[04:50] <jameyg> Kyral_FreeBSD: have you tried using -- gksudo "update-manager d" -- it works!
[04:50] <toxic_> Healot, I can only see different fonts in xorg.conf, not how I can specify my keyboard layout in X.
[04:50] <m6s> what is the command to enter in grub in console? DOes anyone know?
[04:50] <ocx32> where can i add ssh service
[04:50] <ocx32> in the gui ?
[04:50] <chapium> CokeNCode: it will show up as a session in gdm
[04:50] <Kyral_FreeBSD> jameyg: One I don't use Ubuntu anymore
[04:50] <Tobberoth> /dev/sda
[04:51] <jameyg> Kyral_FreeBSD: and two? ;)O
[04:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> jameyg: Two when I did, I was a command line junkie :D
[04:51] <jameyg> :D
[04:51] <ToHellWithGA> i thought the FreeBSD in your name was a joke...
[04:51] <extern> has anyone compiled wine?
[04:51] <m6s> because I am afraid nvidia will cause a pain in the ass during the restart
[04:51] <Healot> did you see the "us" in Keyboard section
[04:51] <ToHellWithGA> extern: i didn't have to compile it
[04:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: okay, do this "sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sda"
[04:51] <daqing> does anyone have any information  about the " grub error 17"
[04:51] <ToHellWithGA> extern: it's available through apt or synaptic
[04:51] <jameyg> just the update-manager actually downloads an official upgrade app that gives GUI-lovers proper progress
[04:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: oh wait you need to make a partition first
[04:51] <Tobberoth> won't that make all of sda into FAT32?
[04:51] <Tobberoth> Yeah
[04:51] <CokeNCode> chapium ... ok ... thanks ... trying to figure out how that will work. But I guess I'll see when I get home.
[04:51] <extern> ToHellWithGA, but it can't find 64 package
[04:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: Didn't you want to?
[04:51] <extern> ToHellWithGA, so I probably have to compile it myself
[04:51] <toxic_> How can I specify my keyboard layout in X (not font) ?
[04:52] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I want to make an ew partition out of the free space
[04:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: CFDisk :D
[04:52] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Then make it FAT32
[04:52] <Healot> change that to your keyboard... toxic_, anyways easier to do it with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:52] <mpeters> I need some help with installing wallpapers/Themes......and where to get wallpapers??
[04:52] <Healot> or any other GUI tool
[04:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: First you need to make the physical partition, then you need to apply the FS
[04:52] <ToHellWithGA> extern: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97026 might help.  have you tried compiling it yet?
[04:52] <bienc> mpeters, http://www.deviantart.com has lots and lots of wallpapers. :)
[04:52] <capiCrimm> umm... I'm getting russian characters in gnome-terminal?
[04:52] <Fjodor> iiiears: #ubuntu is indeed one of the greater "assets" :-)
[04:52] <Tobberoth> Yeah, I guess, but how do I make the physical partition?
[04:52] <toxic_> Healot, ok I\ll read on the documentation on that one then :)
[04:52] <chapium> mpeters: deviantart.com, art.gnome.org
[04:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: cfdisk is a console based partitioner with a nice GUI
[04:52] <ron_o> mpeters, tjhere are dozens of sites out there for linux wallpapers and themes.
[04:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[04:52] <ron_o> please do a search for them.
[04:52] <extern> ToHellWithGA, the way I found on wine download page
[04:53] <Tobberoth> ah, I'm scared of console >_> but I'll try
[04:53] <ron_o> !themes
[04:53] <extern> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[04:53] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Okej, I'm in, hold on
[04:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: It ain't scary! Someone dig up my old Terminal For Beginners on UbuntuForums
[04:53] <ron_o> ubotu> I heard themes is try installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Dapper). It downloads and installs themes from http://art.gnome.org/ Some other sites with various themes include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[04:53] <ubotu> ron_o: I think you lost me on that one
[04:53] <Tobberoth> Yeah, I can see the free space.. now let's see
[04:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: use the arrow keys to select "New"
[04:54] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I mean its quite nicely laid out if you ask me
[04:54] <ozgur> how can i unistall and than install XMMS? thanx
[04:54] <suarta> ciao everybody
[04:54] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ozgur: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xmms
[04:54] <rapha> Hi all!
[04:54] <ToHellWithGA> ozgur: sudo apt-get remove --purge xmms
[04:54] <ozgur> KYRAL: thanx
[04:54] <rapha> Anybody try the new MacBook yet? -- Does it run Dapper?
[04:54] <ToHellWithGA> then sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:54] <Syndrome> Hey, um, could I get some help with Dapper Drake? Like, with installing it?
[04:55] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Wow, it was really easy to use! I think I've made it into a logical partition now
[04:55] <ToHellWithGA> Kyral: does reinstall do a purge?
[04:55] <schizoschaf> hi
[04:55] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Now, how do I make it FAT32?
[04:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ToHellWithGA: Nope
[04:55] <ozgur> purge? what is it?
[04:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: remember that command I gave earlier?
[04:55] <schizoschaf> is there a way to undo an accidental rm *.*
[04:55] <ron_o> Syndrome, what problem are you having?
[04:55] <ToHellWithGA> cleans everything that xmms was using off
[04:55] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD:  Well.. no >_>
[04:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: sudo mkfs.vfat -F /dev/sda1
[04:55] <schizoschaf> if nothing happened afterwards
[04:55] <rapha> schizoschaf: Nope. Unless, maybe, when you're on ext2 and got some ext2 undelete program installed. No idea what it's called.
[04:55] <mpeters> thanks all
[04:55] <ron_o> schizoschaf, not on ext3 as far as I know.
[04:55] <capiCrimm> No one knows how to change the gnome-terminal language? I'd look in man
[04:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> schizoschaf: if nothing happened, then you are safe (especially if you did it without root)
[04:56] <ToHellWithGA> it gets more of the space used by xmms back.  i guess it's not necessary if you'll be putting it right back.  have you tried quod libet?
[04:56] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: But I should put sda8 insted of sda, right? To show which partition
[04:56] <m6s> is it safe enough for 64bit to upgrade, or has there any report been seen, that says anything odd?
[04:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: if thats what it is called
[04:56] <phaidros> hi, how to configure acpt to set cpufreq-selector on bat/AC ?
[04:56] <Syndrome> My computer (a laptop with AMD 64) can read the disc just fine, but when I choose to install, I get an error and the screen goes blank.
[04:56] <phaidros> acpi
[04:56] <Tobberoth> Yeah, it says so under Name in cfdisk
[04:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: to check, pull sudo fdisk -l
[04:56] <schizoschaf> it was not as root... only contents of one folder lost on ext3
[04:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: then use that :D
[04:56] <daqing> ToHellWithGA, sorry to trouble u , do u have any information about the " grub error 17"?
[04:56] <Syndrome> "agpgart: Aperture conflicts with PCI mapping"
[04:56] <ToHellWithGA> daqing: naw man.  i don't know grub
[04:56] <ron_o> Syndrome, did you burn his CD?
[04:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> schizoschaf: you CAN technically get it back, but not without those high end data recovery things
[04:57] <ToHellWithGA> i haven't toyed with a bootloader in ages
[04:57] <tuxtheslacker> hey, I know this is the wrong room, but it's somewhat related ot linux.... I found an error in digg, how would I report it?
[04:57] <schizoschaf> shit
[04:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tuxtheslacker: dig or digg :P
[04:57] <tuxtheslacker> digg.com* please don't kick me for spamming, I'm asking where I'd go.
[04:57] <tuxtheslacker> like what room to go to*
[04:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> schizoschaf: This is why it pays to be attentive!
[04:58] <ToHellWithGA> tuxtheslacker: a room in which people do not end sentences in prepositions :p
[04:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> schizoschaf: Friends don't let friends be root while drunk!
[04:58] <schizoschaf> righ Kyral_FreeBSD :/
[04:58] <Syndrome> ron_o: Yes, I downloaded the .iso on BitTorrent.
[04:58] <rapha> tuxadmin: no idea what digg is, but ... tried #digg?
[04:58] <ron_o> but did you check the CD for faults?
[04:58] <schizoschaf> i wasnt root Kyral_FreeBSD
[04:58] <m6s> guys? Abiword-plugins are supposed to be REMOVED? and not upgrade?
[04:58] <ron_o> you iso might be all and well but your burn might not be.
[04:58] <ToHellWithGA> tuxtheslacker: http://digg.com/bugreport
[04:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> schizoschaf: was a joke
[04:58] <schizoschaf> k
[04:58] <ToHellWithGA> it's not necessary a "website bug" but it's an error on the site
[04:58] <phaidros> acpi and cpufreq-selector? how to do? put script in /etc/acpi/battery.d/ ?
[04:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> m6s: I dunno, just go along with it
[04:58] <tuxtheslacker> ToHellWithGA, thank you
[04:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: did it work?
[04:59] <Syndrome> I tried to do that first, but it does the same thing as if I tried to install it. Gives me the "agpgart" message and goes blank.
[04:59] <m6s> I saw and some gnome-vfs and gnomemm staff?
[04:59] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: When writing the partitiontable to disk, I got an error
[04:59] <babo> I don't get bittorrent ... I really don't. I connect everything and it seems to work fine, then i go to some of the larger torrent search engine and I download the most popular and healthy torrents ... and all I get are corrupted files and connection refused errors from the trackers ? ... am i missing something here ... ?
[04:59] <m6s> mysterious...
[04:59] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: It told me to reboot
[04:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: pastebin it
[04:59] <Syndrome> Unless there's some way to check the CD for defects in Windows, I don't know what to do.
[04:59] <ozgur> HELP:( my cam doesnt work at aMSN  cos behind router or firewall, but i opened the ports :(  and i dont have firewall program, or does ubuntu have firewall?
[04:59] <ron_o> Syndrome, ....
[04:59] <m6s> babo->NAT and port opening?
[04:59] <rapha> Syndrome: look for "md5sum win32" with google
[04:59] <ron_o> Syndrome, Oh, I though you were on linux.
[05:00] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> Hi, Everyone. I've got a laptop here which supposedly has 1024 MiB memory, but the System Monitor only shows a total of 883.5 MiB. Any idea how I can activate the remainder?
[05:00] <ron_o> when you boot I think there is an option to check the CD, right?
[05:00] <Tobberoth> what is pastebin? It simply says it wrote it but can't list it.. or something
[05:00] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !tell Tobberoth about pastebin
[05:00] <HymnToLife> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> shared memory GFX ?
[05:00] <Syndrome> Thanks. No, I'm running XP now. Yes, it's the fourth or fifth option, but it just goes blank after it unpacks the kernel and gives me that message.
[05:00] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: its a place were you paste the error so others can look at it
[05:00] <babo> m6s: I'm running in the dmz with iptables off ...
[05:01] <Kyral_FreeBSD> and I'll brb, I need to hit the can
[05:01] <ron_o> it sounds like a bad burn..
[05:01] <rapha> SO
[05:01] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Oh, I see.. Anyway, it seems to be working now, the partition is listen with the fdisk -l command
[05:01] <rapha> Anybody got the new MacBook yet?
[05:01] <Tobberoth> rapha: I'm buying it :)
[05:01] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> HymnToLife: What do you mean? 1024 MiB is meant to be my total RAM - I'm not sure if/how much is meant to be shared with graphics card. Is there a way to see this?
[05:01] <ozgur> KYRAL_: i did it , but i click XMMsS , and it doesnt open  :(
[05:01] <dusty> misfit_toy: you around?
[05:01] <ToHellWithGA> rapha: the non-pro?  the price is right on the one with the DVD+-RW drive
[05:02] <phaidros> anybody acpi & cpufreq-selector connected?
[05:02] <rapha> ToHellWithGA: ya, the non-pro, black-or-white one. I'm considering buying the black one.
[05:02] <ToHellWithGA> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1: does your computer have onboard video?
[05:02] <brsseb> anyone here a xorg.conf-guru? im having serious problems getting my monitor to work in dapper
[05:02] <ToHellWithGA> rapha: that's so hardcore, a black computer
[05:02] <janks> !scanner
[05:02] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[05:02] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I tried the mkfs thing.. it gave me the error Bad FAT type:
[05:02] <rapha> ToHellWithGA: well, it's also the fastest. Costs about 1500 in Europe.
[05:03] <Syndrome> ron_o: I'll try making a new CD, but I'm on dial-up so I have to go to a friend's house or something to download it, so it's inconvenient.
[05:03] <ron_o> Syndrome, no, your download may be fine.
[05:03] <ron_o> md5sum your download.
[05:03] <ToHellWithGA> Syndrome: are you in atlanta?  i could bring you a CD
[05:03] <phaidros> or just order ?
[05:03] <brsseb> if anyone know, plz take a moment and look on my VGA-problem. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181571
[05:03] <ron_o> or you could order a CD for $3 or $4..
[05:04] <rapha> ToHellWithGA: any idea whether the x86 macs run Ubuntu?
[05:04] <KenSentMe> How can i keep Ubuntu from showing all partitions on the desktop?
[05:04] <ron_o> for XP I believe you can use a program called MD5Summer.
[05:04] <Syndrome> ron_o: The download's actually not on my computer. -_- I did have Breezy shipped to me, but it took a long time to get here from France.
[05:04] <ron_o> oh, sorry.
[05:04] <Kyral_FreeBSD> back
[05:04] <frank_b> what mount point do I choose in the "manully edit partition table" option for a windows xp partition in order to keep my dual boot while installing dapper?
[05:04] <Syndrome> ToHellWithGA: Thanks for the offer, but I'm a good deal south of Atlanta.
[05:04] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I get Bad FAT type: /dev/sda8
[05:04] <ToHellWithGA> rapha: http://desrt.mcmaster.ca/macbook.xhtml looks like it kinda works
[05:05] <HymnToLife> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> in the BIOS
[05:05] <directhex|work> frank_, you don't need to touch it at all
[05:05] <loren_> hola
[05:05] <pools> hi
[05:05] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> ToHellWithGA: Not sure. I've got an ATI Radeon Express 200M graphics card. Is there a way I can tell if the memory is shared?
[05:05] <Tobberoth> I'm starting to think that unpartitioned free space is messed up somehow :(
[05:05] <Frogzoo> any ideas why taskjuggler exits without opening?
[05:05] <directhex|work> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1, it is. radeon express is onboard, so has shared ram.
[05:05] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: gimme a second
[05:05] <ToHellWithGA> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1: your BIOS might tell you
[05:05] <Syndrome> Well, I'll try making a new burn and seeing how far that gets me. Thanks for all your help.
[05:05] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: I prolly had the command wrong
[05:05] <ron_o> KenSentMe, try the configuration editor -- probably under Desktop.
[05:05] <frank_b> directhex|work, the install program complains I haven't choose a mount point and doesn't let me go on with the installation
[05:06] <FoolsRun> hi, I'm thinking about trying to run Pro/ENGINEER in a Linux environment and I'm wondering if anyone's had any luck doing so
[05:06] <directhex|work> frank_b, so pick anything. it is 100% unrelated to grub
[05:06] <KenSentMe> ron_o ok, thanx
[05:06] <frank_b> directhex|work, you sure it won't mess with my windows partition?
[05:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: Lemme reference the manpage
[05:07] <george_looney> !tell george_looney about upgrade
[05:07] <pools> does anybody know how to make konquerer the default file browser in gnome in 6.06 ?
[05:07] <rapha> Hey! 10 Dapper CDs won't be enough! Why did they take the arbitrary-numbers option out of ShipIt? That will never last in my shop till the next release...
[05:07] <Tobberoth> Sure
[05:07] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> ToHellWithGA, HymnToLife: Hmm, thanks. I've looked at my BIOS before and didn't notice anything; but then the BIOS is pretty basic. I'll have another look.
[05:07] <directhex|work> frank_b, unless you manually went in and said "format this partition"...
[05:07] <george_looney> rapha: You can email them about it
[05:08] <rapha> george_looney: will do
[05:08] <frank_b> directhex|work, ok. I can reinstall it anyway afterwards, since I don't have anything important in it. thanks very much for your help. :)
[05:08] <freemanen> How do get ubuntu on two screens?
[05:08] <ron_o> pools, that's a tough one. Possibly you could use the configuration editor... but it depends on what program you are using.
[05:08] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: seems stupid but try sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 -v /dev/sda8
[05:08] <ron_o> there are all kinds of conflicts for that.
[05:08] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> directhex|work - Really? Damn! I didn't notice anything about shared RAM when I was checking out the laptop in the shop. Ah, well, my fault, I suppose.
[05:08] <Tobberoth> okey, hold on
[05:08] <ron_o> !default
[05:08] <bobobo> does the server version of 6.06 have gnu desktop installed by default?
[05:08] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ron_o
[05:08] <nalioth> bobobo: no, it's console only, iirc
[05:08] <vladootz> i have just installed ubuntu 5.04 and, i don't get much with linux, i logged in. how do i run ubuntu desktop?
[05:09] <bobobo> that would explain my diufficulties :)
[05:09] <ToHellWithGA> bobobo: the server versions are stripped bare
[05:09] <bobobo> thanks
[05:09] <_chavo> freemanen, you have to edit your xorg.conf
[05:09] <ToHellWithGA> installing X and gnome from the console is painful
[05:09] <Hajuu> Hi. so, does anyone know why I might be getting the message that my default font "fixed" is missing? Also, why now that I managed to get gdm to run, my firefox still doesnt even have any text (font I guess)
[05:09] <Hajuu> any ideas??
[05:09] <directhex|work> vladootz, 1) why run a 1-year-old version? 2) logged in where? a text prompt? that suggests that your graphics hardware wasn't configured
[05:09] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: It responds with: /dev/sda8: No such file or directory
[05:09] <freemanen> chavo:how?
[05:09] <Tobberoth> but it's still listed with fdisk -l!
[05:09] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: hmm
[05:09] <KenSentMe> vladootz why have you installed 5.04? It's very old.
[05:09] <bobobo> for me, practically anything from the console ois painful
[05:09] <directhex|work> ToHellWithGA, "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" is painful?
[05:10] <ToHellWithGA> directhex|work: that's hardly adding things to the server.  it's more like revamping the thing
[05:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: paste the output of sudo fdisk -l to pastebin please
[05:10] <nalioth> bobobo: at the console, type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"  if you want the standard ubuntu gnome desktop
[05:10] <Tobberoth> okej
[05:10] <directhex|work> ToHellWithGA, fine. use "xorg gnome". it's still far from difficult
[05:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> and then give us the link here
[05:11] <ToHellWithGA> directhex|work: touch
[05:11] <vladootz> directhex|work i logged to the text promt i guess... it says "user@computername: ~$" and i can type commands... how do i go to ubuntu desktop?
[05:11] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> can anyone tell me how to change the uid on mounting an ntfs partition?
[05:11] <pools_> ron_o: the reason i am asking is because i need the mp3 tag list view and i cant seem to do that in nautilus. i want konquerer for just general file browsing and thats it
[05:11] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> i tried -o uid=1000 but that gave me an error
[05:11] <bobobo> thanks brothers (and any sisters), i'm working on it now
[05:11] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15195
[05:12] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hdXY /mnt/point
[05:12] <MEDVED> hi all!
[05:12] <directhex|work> vladootz, try "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop". you should never get a console prompt on a standard ubuntu installation, unless you don't have the desktop packages installed, or your hardware isn't configured correctly
[05:12] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - umask?
[05:12] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: erm... prepend that with sudo. :)
[05:12] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: yep.
[05:12] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: But keep in mind, cfdisk gave me an error after writing the partition table
[05:12] <phaidros> too much traffic for me here. another channel with less people around?
[05:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: and sda8 is the new one?
[05:12] <Tobberoth> Yeah, sda8 is new
[05:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: it did? What was it?
[05:12] <MEDVED> Samantin  
[05:13] <MEDVED> PREVED UCHASNEGI!!!!
[05:13] <Tobberoth> It said something like "Couldn't re-read" or something, hold on and I'll try again
[05:13] <ToHellWithGA> phaidros: if you ask your question somebody could PM with you until you get your answer
[05:13] <Samantin> phaidros  ,
[05:13] <profoXP> What does ubuntu use to suspend to disk ? swsusp or suspend2 or .. ?
[05:13] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - no idea what umask is; but i'm in sudo interactive mode =P
[05:13] <MEDVED> phaidros=??????
[05:13] <Samantin> medved go atzigat ))
[05:13] <ToHellWithGA> MEDVED: this is the english channel.  there are other channels which deal with other languages
    !
[05:14] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: It says: "Wrote partition table, but re-read table failed. Reboot to update table."
[05:14] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> Can anyone recommend or otherwise suggest an application to view the memory allocation, and see how much is allocated to RAM and how much to graphics card?
[05:14] <grogoreo> hi
[05:14] <_chavo> freemanen, well to edit your xorg.conf is just gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <Samantin> tak 4to zzoom )
[05:14] <MEDVED> AMERIKANCI EST"????
[05:14] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: oh... sorry... you meant uid? uid=foo. i'm used to giving out the usual umask reply because people get confused with ntfs perms. =D
[05:14] <profoXP> What does ubuntu use to suspend to disk ? swsusp or suspend2 or .. ?
[05:14] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: I think you should do that :D
[05:14] <_chavo> oh he didn't want to wait
[05:14] <Samantin> VSEM SAST'~
[05:14] <Samantin> SASAT
[05:14] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Allright, be right back :)
[05:14] <directhex|work> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1, that ought to be shown somewhere in Xorg.0.log
[05:14] <Kyral_FreeBSD> profoXP: ask in #ubuntu-devel
[05:14] <brandon_> i'm having cvs trouble
[05:14] <nalioth> Samantin: what language are you speaking?
[05:14] <Samantin> ahtungi gde suki?
[05:14] <MEDVED> SASAT" NEMERENNA I NI PADECKI LOXI!!!!
[05:14] <ToHellWithGA> Samantin: is that some language other than english for "capslock"?
[05:14] <directhex|work> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1, generally, try "free -m" and work out the difference from what you expect to what you have totoal
[05:14] <ToHellWithGA> b/c that capslock is silly-looking
[05:15] <Samantin> nalioth, on the alzir
[05:15] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - i wasn't even aware that linux would emulate ntfs permissions
 RUSSIANS WE!!!
[05:15] <profoXP> Kyral_FreeBSD, right, thanks
[05:15] <burzum> hmm my ubuntu crashes randomly, any ideas why?
[05:15] <mpeters> how do you enable MP3 playback
[05:15] <nalioth> !ru
[05:15] <sevtastic> howdy. where is the file to edit my current theme?
[05:15] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:15] <mpeters> I have 5.10....
[05:15] <grogoreo> I'm trying to get my Wacom Graphire4 to work but after following a HOWTO on ubuntu forums I now don't have my mouse (PS/2) not working as well as a slow pickup from my tablet
[05:15] <profoXP> lol.. Ubuntu Development (not support, even with edgy)
[05:15] <mpeters> breezy
[05:15] <brandon_> can somebody try this: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@mplayerhq.hu:/cvsroot/ffmpeg login'
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[05:15] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: it doesn't. it just sets it's own perms. i guess the most common stuff you'll need is uid,gid, and umask.
[05:15] <MEDVED> !ru
[05:15] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:16] <MEDVED> !ru
[05:16] <babo> how do i check whether my ports are open for bittorrent ... ?
[05:16] <errpast98> I'm trying to install perl module "XML::RPC" via >cpan, and getting dependency errors
[05:16] <errpast98> Is this something I could do with apt-get?
[05:16] <m6s> babo: scan.sygate.com
[05:16] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - ahh; the whole reason i did that was i'm using ubuntu live to grab things off of a broken ntfs partition
[05:16] <iiiears> Good Morning Nalioth.
[05:16] <ToHellWithGA> MEDVED: /j #ubuntu-ru
[05:16] <directhex|work> errpast98, always search apt first.
[05:16] <MEDVED> PELODKI EST"??????
[05:16] <m6s> babo: scan.sygatetech.com
[05:16] <Samantin> medved, pust oni sasut!
[05:16] <sevtastic> hi all. how would one edit gnome themes? i know there's a textfile that dictates all the properties but where is it located?
[05:16] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - you wouldn't be able to tell me how to mount a windows smb share through the prompt, would you?
[05:17] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: and you couldn't access the ntfs files as a regular user? =)
[05:17] <Samantin> i want fuck girls ))
[05:17] <directhex|work> errpast98, librpc-xml-perl
[05:17] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - broken...windows sees one bad file, cylinder, clusterfuck, ANYTHING, and it bsods on boot
[05:17] <ToHellWithGA> lol @ Samantin
[05:17] <iiiears> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: I have exactly to the letter the same question. just installed smbfs
[05:17] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Whoa nice quicky nalioth
[05:17] <chavo> sevtastic, they are in /usr/share/themes, but you can copy them to ~/.themes so you can edit them
[05:17] <baumer> Anybody had issues migrating to the vmware-player debs after building from source?
[05:17] <MEDVED>    ???????
[05:17] <chavo> sevtastic, you can also rename them by renaming the directory
[05:17] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: did it work now?
[05:17] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: it's supposed to be "modprobe smbfs; mount -t smbfs //foo/bar /mnt/point" but it doesn't seem to work here. :(
[05:17] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> hopefully smbfs is included in the live cd...
[05:18] <nalioth> MEDVED: please join #ubuntu-ru
[05:18] <apokryphos> MEDVED: utf8 only in here
[05:18] <big_tomato> #mp3_collective
[05:18] <ToHellWithGA> MEDVED: /j #ubuntu-ru
[05:18] <baumer> I'm getting these errors trying to start vmplayer http://pastebin.com/759092
[05:18] <saquib> >>> HELP: what is the shell command to disable/enable the "eth0" device ???
[05:18] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: something about a codepage error which i haven't been able to figure out yet.
[05:18] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - i'll go try that now
[05:18] <ivoks> profoXP: well, this is better place
[05:19] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I think it works now :) Will try to mount it
[05:19] <iiiears> Terminus - installing smbfs allows permanently mounting a remote directory and using longer path statements in apps (like xmms)
[05:19] <profoXP> ivoks, hi
[05:19] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: sudo ifconfig eth0 up brings it up
[05:19] <majd> !sharing
[05:19] <ubotu> majd: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:19] <m6s> java plugin for 64bit knows anyone anuthing?
[05:19] <majd> !network
[05:19] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[05:19] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: I'll leave it to you to see if you can figureout what brings it down :P
[05:19] <majd> grrr
[05:19] <directhex|work> saquib, ifconfig eth0 down
[05:19] <ivoks> profoXP: so, let's start with nvidia, ok?
[05:19] <pools_> does anybody know how to make konquerer the default file browser in gnome in 6.06 ?
[05:19] <majd> what steps do i need to take to add my ubuntu box to my windows network?
[05:19] <profoXP> ivoks, okay, thanks. So, how does the suspend function work? it checks my videocard to choose the best way of suspending ?
[05:19] <profoXP> ivoks, oh, okay.. good
[05:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell m6s about java
[05:20] <profoXP> ivoks, nvidia it is
[05:20] <saquib>  sudo ifconfig eth0 down ??
[05:20] <directhex|work> saquib, yes.
[05:20] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: argh! i just figured it out! smbmount wasn't installed on my box... >.<
[05:20] <m6s> what is ubotu? :-)
[05:20] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: yes
[05:20] <m6s> mechanism?
[05:20] <saquib> im a genius :S
[05:20] <sevtastic> chavo: you the man. that's exactly what i was looking for
[05:20] <ivoks> profoXP: for suspend to disk to work with nvidia, you have to make some changes to /etc/default/acpi-support
[05:20] <directhex|work> saquib, or "ifdown eth0" if you prefer
[05:20] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> i just got missing data argument
[05:20] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> XD
[05:20] <m6s> ubotu: tell m6s about ubotu
[05:20] <Hajuu> Hey guys... since I upgraded from hoary to breezy ive been having font troubles.. and now that ive finally gotten gdm to run using its config utility, I still have no fonts at all in mozilla firefox.. Someone please help! :(
[05:21] <ydc> hi
[05:21] <Samuli^> Odd, first I had 7 updates and the after that update manager suggested reboot.. Then I downloaded the other 65 updates that become available and now it doesn't want to reboot.
[05:21] <ivoks> profoXP: SAVE_VBE_STATE=false
[05:21] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: In the diskmanager, I can't make it accessible :(
[05:21] <directhex|work> Hajuu, you *just* moved to breezy? breezy's obsolete!
[05:21] <ivoks> profoXP: and that's it
[05:21] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: you don't need no stinkin disk manager
[05:21] <Crescendo> While in screensaver selection, I chose a graphically intensive screensave, and the preview locks up the window... terminating and reopening returns it to the same state... how to fix
[05:21] <Crescendo> ?
[05:21] <saquib> >> okay, my main trouble .s my DEFAULT GATEWAY device has to be eth0 ... but its not stayng parmanent! many times after booting i have to manually disable THEN enable, nad the internet connection would start working! What to do??
[05:21] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Then, how do I mount it?
[05:21] <Hajuu> directhex|work: Yeah. Dialup.. Been waiting for cds.. etc etc... any ideas though?
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> Samuli^: You don't have to reboot after most updates, only new kernels.  The majority of the time you run updates you will not need to reboot.
[05:21] <nalioth> directhex|work: breezy is just fine for any use you see fit to give it.  Linux does not go obsolete like other OS'
[05:21] <ivoks> profoXP: restart computer and then try to suspend
[05:21] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: You have the original disk manager, the terminal
[05:21] <apokryphos> Hajuu: is ubuntu-desktop installed?
[05:21] <Samuli^> directhex|work, breezy is supported for 2 years or so.
[05:21] <ivoks> profoXP: i guess you are using nvidia driver
[05:21] <apokryphos> Hajuu: did you follow the proper instructions for upgrading?
[05:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: use mkdir to create the mountpoint wherever you want it
[05:22] <Samuli^> tonyyarusso, I know that, but after the first 7 updates it suggested reboot.
[05:22] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I want both windows and ubuntu to be able to use this partition
[05:22] <rongenre> hi there.. trying to get an orinoco gold card to work
[05:22] <profoXP> ivoks, okay, done (yes i am using the nvidia driver)
[05:22] <gdb> breezy should have about 10 months of support left.
[05:22] <Terminus> iiiears: yeah... i forgot the smbmount requirement. just figured it out. oh well, i use NFS anyway. hehe
[05:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: then do sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sd8 <yourmountpoint?
[05:22] <Hajuu> apokryphos: No, since I didnt want to do a dist-upgrade.. I upgraded manually :)
[05:22] <majd> !samba
[05:22] <rongenre> breezy worked w/ orinoco out of the box, not dapper
[05:22] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:22] <Hajuu> I didnt want to download 650mb+ for a simple kernel update
[05:22] <ivoks> profoXP: this will not make suspend to ram work, only to disk
[05:22] <g-nome> where are the files from gconf-editor saved on the disk (to make backup...) ?
[05:22] <iiiears> nalioth - smbfs needs the -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword   switch. How do i discover my default windows password without setting up windows user accounts?user
[05:22] <lekant> how do I install off of hte deskttop cdrom?
[05:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: where you mount it in Linux has no bearing on where it is in XP
[05:22] <Edenshaw> join/ #muchbytes
[05:22] <apokryphos> Hajuu: if dist-upgrade isn't a manual upgrade, what's "manual update"?
[05:23] <profoXP> ivoks, is dapper going to detect this automatically in a next release btw? (and suspend to ram won't work?)
[05:23] <nalioth> iiiears: how about using a 'blank' entry?
[05:23] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Okej.. what is a mountpoint? SHould I write like... </share
[05:23] <ivoks> profoXP: and how it is "not working"? what are results
[05:23] <saquib> >>HELP: okay, my main trouble .s my DEFAULT GATEWAY device has to be eth0 ... but its not stayng parmanent! many times after booting i have to manually disable THEN enable, nad the internet connection would start working! What to do??
[05:23] <profoXP> ivoks, wait let me see what this gives me now
[05:23] <ivoks> profoXP: for suspend to ram, you need to do aditional changes
[05:23] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: where ever you want it to be
[05:23] <ydc> hi there all!!
[05:23] <lekant> How do I install off of the Desktop CDROM? I have booted off of it but it did not come up with the X 11 Window System, so I am stuck in command line mode. What ist he command to start the install to DISK?
[05:23] <Hajuu> apokryphos: Going through every package manually heh
[05:23] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: a mount point is just where it attaches to the file system
[05:23] <apokryphos> Hajuu: well that explains the problem.. you can't just do that :)
[05:23] <profoXP> ivoks, it didnt want to boot after I suspended, but I am rebooting now and I'm going to suspend after the reboot to test
[05:23] <gdb> Why are you guys riding his ass for running Breezy?  It's supported for *at least* another 10 months and this is the "Official Ubuntu support channel".
[05:24] <directhex|work> saquib, look into setting something in /etc/network/interfaces. read "man interfaces"
[05:24] <Hajuu> apokryphos: sure you can.
[05:24] <gdb> sheesh
[05:24] <majd> I want to send files from my ubuntu box to my windows box, how can i do it?
[05:24] <chapium> hip bone connected to the leg bone..
[05:24] <FoolsRun> is it possible to rebuild a user's settings from defaults if they got screwed up? Fonts/window style, etc?
[05:24] <lekant> How do I install off of the Desktop CDROM? I have booted off of it but it did not come up with the X 11 Window System, so I am stuck in command line mode. What ist he command to start the install to DISK?
[05:24] <ivoks> profoXP: ok
[05:24] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: It said mount point /share does not exist
[05:24] <chapium> majd: samba
[05:24] <apokryphos> gdb: language, please.
[05:24] <gdb> FoolsRun: Yeah, pretty much delete anything that starts with .g in ~
[05:24] <Tobberoth> So.. how do I make it >_>
[05:24] <watson540> so much repeating here :(
[05:24] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: you have to make it with mkdir :P
[05:24] <iiiears> nalioth - No luck with an empty password. - Thanks i should google it. (going to need a walkthrough.)
[05:24] <watson540> there should be a 'repeat kick'
[05:24] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: sudo mkdir /share
[05:24] <FoolsRun> gdb: cool, thanks!
[05:24] <gdb> apokryphos: Point taken, I hope you got mine, too. :-P
[05:24] <Tobberoth> Wow, I suck at this ^
[05:24] <Tobberoth> thanks
[05:24] <gdb> FoolsRun: no problem
[05:24] <majd> chapium, the link only tells you how to read files from you'r windows shares....right?
[05:24] <majd> !samba
[05:25] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:25] <lekant> How do I install off of the Desktop CDROM? I have booted off of it but it did not come up with the X 11 Window System, so I am stuck in command line mode. What ist he command to start the install to DISK?
[05:25] <apokryphos> gdb: were you referring to me?
[05:25] <gdb> FoolsRun: Basically it's all the gnome configuration.
[05:25] <watson540> lekant<-- top that please
[05:25] <Crescendo> Would Nvidia drivers work for LSPCI result "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV"?
[05:25] <lekant> then please help me
[05:25] <watson540> lekant: stop
[05:25] <lekant> jesuss christ
[05:25] <lekant> how the fuck do you install off the desktop ISO
[05:25] <gdb> apokryphos: Not specificially, just generally to everyone that decided it was more productive to dump on a user running Breezy rather than assisting with his issue.
[05:25] <chapium> majd: you can use samba to read shares from linux on windows too
[05:25] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Wow, it worked! Thanks :)
[05:25] <profoXP> ivoks, yea its a pretty slow pc .. :)
[05:25] <watson540> lekant: help yourself by not being a moron
[05:25] <majd> ok
[05:25] <apokryphos> lekant: please drop the attitude and the language.
[05:25] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: no problem :D
[05:26] <ivoks> profoXP: np, i'll be here for a while...
[05:26] <gdb> lekant: You click the "Install" icon
[05:26] <lekant> i'm not being a moron
[05:26] <FoolsRun> lekant: look at your desktop
[05:26] <lekant> i have no install icon
[05:26] <lekant> i told you
[05:26] <lekant> i am not in X
[05:26] <lekant> x wouldn't start
[05:26] <profoXP> ivoks, its up & running, trying suspend
[05:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> He did say there was no X
[05:26] <apokryphos> !enter
[05:26] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:26] <gdb> lekant: Then perhaps you're SOL, I dunno how to do it from tty.
[05:26] <FoolsRun> oh, well start X and then double click "install" :)
[05:26] <directhex|work> lekant, if you want a text-based installation, you use the text-based "alternate" install cd.
[05:26] <lekant> i'm not SOL
[05:26] <gdb> Kyral_FreeBSD: Missed it in the scroll.
[05:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> lekant: try to execute startx
[05:26] <lekant> i did
[05:26] <hmpedersen> lekant. No reason to use that language
[05:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> lekant: nada?
[05:26] <lekant> chill out
[05:26] <chapium> !volunteers
[05:26] <ubotu> chapium: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:26] <chapium> bleh
[05:26] <lekant> i would have to load nvidia drivers
[05:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Everyone chill
[05:26] <lekant> i guess i will have to use this alt cd
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> lekant: Did X work with a Breezy disk?  (If you have one)
[05:26] <gdb> lekant: Why?
[05:26] <apokryphos> chapium: want to volunteer to help? :)
[05:27] <orp> i there
[05:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> lekant: not neccessarily
[05:27] <chapium> errr
[05:27] <gdb> lekant: Every nVidia card works just fine with 2d support (all you need to install the system) out of the box.
[05:27] <chapium> if i know how to help i'll try
[05:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> the vesa driver will work
[05:27] <lekant> not on this computer
[05:27] <g-nome> anyone knows what's gconfd?
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> lekant: I personally prefer the alternate CD anyway, actually.
[05:27] <FoolsRun> lekant: have you tried apt-getting the nvidia drivers?
[05:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> g-nome: GConf's little ting
[05:27] <lekant> i have 2 nvidia 6200's with SGI 1600 SW flat panels
[05:27] <Hajuu> apokryphos: so any ideas about the fonts? ive removed all the ubuntu-* packages because it was the fastest way to remove 90% of stuff I didnt want (all of gstreamer etc etc)... So I just need to fix my fonts and ill be right as rain! I did a google search for the error and came up with quite a few people who experienced the same problem going from hoary to breezy, but their solutions didnt work :(
[05:27] <lekant> apt-get to where? i'm running off a live cd
[05:27] <orp> some one there from yorkshire?
[05:27] <apokryphos> chapium: are you referring to Ubuntu or in this channel?
[05:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> lekant: honestly, you may have a bad burn
[05:27] <FoolsRun> lekant: I apt-getted off a livecd just fine...
[05:27] <g-nome> Kyral_: ?
[05:27] <lekant> gdb: that' sobviously not true in my case
[05:27] <gdb> I'm not sure why you need accelerated 3D drivers to install the OS.  You just need enough support to get graphics on the screen and that works with the supplied drivers.
[05:28] <lekant> kyral: hrmmm
[05:28] <lekant> seriously ?
[05:28] <Crescendo> On that note, what is the APT package...
[05:28] <apokryphos> Hajuu: you have to acknowledge that upgrades without ubuntu-desktop installed are explicitly not supported. It could be more-or-less anything
[05:28] <lekant> a bad burn
[05:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Every, quiet
[05:28] <Crescendo> ...for NVidia drivers?
[05:28] <chapium> apokryphos: i meant !patience
[05:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I'll handle lekant
[05:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> mkay?
[05:28] <rendo> I have a question for anyone that understands ISPs
[05:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> :D
[05:28] <rendo> ....
[05:28] <Hajuu> apokryphos: A missing font could be more or less anything? :/
[05:28] <rendo> I have a question for anyone that understands ISPs better than I do.
[05:28] <apokryphos> chapium: right =)
[05:28] <_wmealing_> hey kids.
[05:28] <lekant> brb
[05:28] <Crescendo> nvdia-glx is the package, right?
[05:28] <rendo> With 2 IP addresses and the use of a hub, is the bandwidth shared or is it separate for each IP?
[05:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> lekant: yah. Redownload and burn at the slowest speed
[05:28] <_wmealing_> anyone run U on a Macbook (non pro)
[05:28] <profoXP> ivoks, so.. i get a flashing _ but after a while i'm stuck at a black screen
[05:28] <lekant> ok
[05:28] <gdb> rendo: Read the comic strip 'User Friendly' for more insight into how ISPs work.
[05:28] <hmpedersen> rendo, I only work with ISPs.. I don't understand them
[05:29] <_wmealing_> ive heard of it, but i want to talk to someone about it.
[05:29] <saquib> HOW can i make ifconfig eth0 up command run w/out SUDO ?
[05:29] <lekant> brb
[05:29] <apokryphos> Hajuu: are you convinced that it's just a missing font, that's all your problems? Anyway, look for what font packages there are in MAIN
[05:29] <rendo> I worked for one too, and I never learned about hubs :P
[05:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: you CAN'T
[05:29] <FoolsRun> Kyral_FreeBSD: seriously, a bad burn could get a working liveCD that doesn't start X?
[05:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: ifconfig is a root command
[05:29] <hmpedersen> lekant, I have no problems with nvidia drivers from the desktop cd
[05:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> FoolsRun: yah, some of the data is there
[05:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> FoolsRun: but not the rest
[05:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> FoolsRun: I've had it happen
[05:29] <ivoks> profoXP: ok, so it boots, but doesn't bring X?
[05:29] <Hajuu> apokryphos: yeah its either a missing font or a paths problem...
[05:29] <majd> when i'm configuring samba, what does "domain name" refer to?
[05:29] <majd> the ip of the local computer?
[05:30] <FoolsRun> Kyral_FreeBSD: weird. Very specifically bad burn to be so carefully seperated into "eveyrthing except nvidia drivers" :)
[05:30] <hmpedersen> rendo, I don't work 'for' an ISP.. I work 'with' an ISP ;)
[05:30] <rendo> Lol :P
[05:31] <apokryphos> Hajuu: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:31] <Spliffster> hello room. i have problems with gnome-session since dapper beta and after upgrading to 6.06 TLS. when i log in i get no meaningfull error message and gdm falls back to xterm ... is this a known issue ?
[05:31] <rendo> I worked for one.
[05:31] <apokryphos> Hajuu: are you really low on space that you're trying to save it?
[05:31] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, isnt there a file, where u can make certain commands sudo free?
[05:31] <ivoks> profoXP: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find a line Driver          "nvidia"
[05:31] <Spliffster>  /etc/sudoers ... and use NOPASSWD
[05:31] <ivoks> profoXP: bellow it add Option          "NvAGP" "1"
[05:31] <apokryphos> saquib: not sudo-free, but non-admin users can use sudo with the given application, yes.
[05:31] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: but why would you
[05:31] <apokryphos> ifconfig is still technically executed as root
[05:31] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: I only see use to ifconfig for root
[05:31] <saquib> i actually want the ommand in startup to automatically Disable then Enable my eth0
[05:31] <Lemsip> Can anyone tell me how to get spatial nautilus working in Dapper?  I've tried the gconf thing, but it seems to have no effect
[05:32] <saquib> cuz i have to do it manualy mostly anyway
[05:32] <Hajuu> apokryphos: No bandwidth.. Im on dialup and didnt want to download the 700mb that dist-upgrade wanted to download to upgrade to breezy! thats too much... Ive managed to get the kernel running on about 60mb of downloads and about another 120mb of base package upgrades (gnome, xorg, gcc, libraries etc etc)
[05:32] <apokryphos> Kyral_FreeBSD: if you want some people to be able to restart the network but not have the power to muck up other things.
[05:32] <profoXP> ivoks, dont know if it boots completely.. last thing it said on booting was ""Mounting root file system" I guess it did because it took some time, and then I got the flashing cursor and then nothing anymore, Couldn't switch to a VC either.. I will try out NvAGP in a minute, im going to eat now ;) bye and thanks for the help already
[05:32] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: modify /etc/network/interfaces
[05:32] <gdb> I must say that Dapper's installer is really really impressive, but leaves a couple of things to be desired.  It doesn't prompt for network setup.  So even though it's certainly more impressive than Breezy's installer, it's less useful. ;-)
[05:32] <ivoks> profoXP: that's not everything you should do...
[05:32] <Hajuu> apokryphos: but if I update ubuntu-desktop, thats 200mb ontop of the 200 ive already downloaded over the past three days...
[05:32] <Kyral_FreeBSD> gdb: ty, NCurses FTW
[05:32] <apokryphos> Hajuu: why didn't you use shipit? :P
[05:32] <Hajuu> For stuff I dont even need
[05:32] <ivoks> profoXP: well, i'll write a howto today or tomorrow, so you could check it out
[05:32] <ivoks> profoXP: it will be on http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu
[05:32] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, im looking into many forums, no clue wat to do!
[05:32] <Spliffster> Kyral_FreeBSD: ifconfig (depreciated on gun/linux) and ip are on a desktop machin (especially a laptop) actually userland programms (or should be) ... imagine you travel with your laptop ... wifi there, comapany network here ... blah blah bah.
[05:32] <gdb> Kyral_FreeBSD: What am I to welcome you for?
[05:32] <saquib> y defaultits ENable bu
[05:33] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Sorry, I'm allready back with problems :(
[05:33] <Hajuu> apokryphos: I do, I just didnt feel like waiting 6 weeks for openGL (Im using an nvidia-legacy card, which hoary does not support anymore)
[05:33] <saquib> but NOT as my Default gaeway device
[05:33] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: sokay
[05:33] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Now Windows won't boot anymore!
[05:33] <benjiman_> anyone knows how I can change opacity on windows (XGL+Compiz) without a scrollwheel, using a laptop so I dont have one
[05:33] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> i booted into ubuntu live and i've created a temporary tar archive and i want to ftp it - turns out i didn't plug in the cable so it didn't pull a dhcp lease - is there a command that will force it to look for dhcp right now?
[05:33] <apokryphos> Hajuu: look through here http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=font&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=main
[05:33] <Samuli^> benjiman_, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[05:33] <chavo> benjiman_, you can change the keybinding
[05:33] <rongenre> Hi there, any assistance w/ an orinoco card on a laptop?
[05:33] <paul_> I just upgraded to dapper with an all night fight. lol but I got it finally.
[05:33] <directhex|work> Iam8up|lpy|dsc, /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:33] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> or is there a way to set the ip/subnet/gateway?
[05:33] <benjiman_> Samuli^: thanks will do that :)
[05:34] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> ok, thank you!
[05:34] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: heeh, Windows hates having its partition table changed :D
[05:34] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Such an inflexible OS
[05:34] <benjiman_> chavo: Yeah I tried to find how to do that ;>
[05:34] <apokryphos> Hajuu: that's all packages with "font" that are in MAIN. If it really is just a font you need, it'll be one of those. If it's the path that's mucked up, you'll have to do some other work
[05:34] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I can imagine.. anyway to fix it?
[05:34] <directhex|work> this is very wishful thinking, but worth a shot: "has *anyone* got experience with preseeding debian-installer? i can't get the 'passwd' bits to behave"
[05:34] <watson540> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: 'ifup eth0'?
[05:34] <chavo> benjiman_, are you using the quinstorm repos?
[05:34] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: Sorry mate, I have little experiance with XP since I stopped using it about 2 years ago
[05:34] <Spliffster> GDM has problems to start gnome-session then falls back to xterm. if i start gnome-session manually it works without any arror message ... this started with 6.06 TLS. this is pretty much a vanilla installation ... any help ?
[05:34] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> watson540 - i tried that, didn't take it
[05:35] <watson540> :(
[05:35] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Oh man :/ Now what do I do? I'm dependant on Windows
[05:35] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> directhex|work - i did restart the networking services and it said 'ok' to the one job it did, and i still don't have an ip or anything
[05:35] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: Use this as a way to break your addiction? :P
[05:35] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Besides, I can't even write to the FAT partition >_< Says I don't have permission
[05:35] <vitalstatistix> aporkyphos, try "dhclient eth*" where eth* is the network interface
[05:35] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: THAT I can help with
[05:35] <benjiman_> chavo: never heard of that, using the usual dapper multiverse, universe etc
[05:35] <steina1> tob: you are sudo?
[05:36] <FoolsRun> okay, so removing my gnome settings didn't help. Here's my issue: I was messing with interface settings and when I finally got around to restarting X, my fonts ended up super small. No idea what change caused it. Any ideas?
[05:36] <Spliffster> Tobberoth: do you have a recovery diskette or a bootable windows cd ? if so boot into dos and do a format /mbr ... if it is a bootloader problem. you'll have to reinstall lilo/grub afterwards .. however ... windows would boot again
[05:36] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBS , what can i change in  my interfaces file to make sure that my eth0 is the DEFAULT GATEWAY DEVICE when it boots? I dont even ahev any other devices for networking anywya!
[05:36] <chavo> benjiman_, ok, there's an app in the quinstorm repos called gset-compiz, that makes it easy to config
[05:36] <damnation> anyone know wether ubuntu supports linksys wifi pcmcia cards?
[05:36] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: gimme a sec to handle Tobberoth's problem
[05:36] <D-side> my google-fu is weak. how do i enable "desktop sharing" a la vnc?
[05:36] <Tobberoth> Spliffster: Is it hard to reinstall grub afterwards?
[05:36] <Crescendo> Would NVdia drivers be appropriate for "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV", and if so, what would be the package name?
[05:36] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBS, ok... sure
[05:36] <D-side> i'm ssh'ed into the ubuntu box and i'm not sure which option turns on the vncserver
[05:36] <hmpedersen> Does anyone know why I can't syncronize the time?
[05:37] <damnation> i currently have ubuntu installed but couldnt get it to find my APm not sure if it works :S
[05:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: open up /etc/fstab in your favorite editor as root
[05:37] <Spliffster> Tobberoth: i haven't done it with ubuntu ... but ... wwell ... no. you can always boot from the ubuntu cd into a isntalled system i guess
[05:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: add this line to the bottom
[05:37] <hmpedersen> None of my ubuntus will allow me to syncronize time.
[05:37] <benjiman_> chavo: nice, thanks for the tip, will google that right away :D
[05:37] <Spliffster> Tobberoth: so you won't loos any data
[05:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: "/dev/sda8  /share vfat users,rw,umask=000 0 0"
[05:37] <rongenre> damnation I'm having a problem with my lucent pcmcia card
[05:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: then save it
[05:38] <Tobberoth> hold on
[05:38] <damnation> oic :)
[05:38] <chavo> benjiman_, you can do it with gconf-editor but gset-compiz is much easier
[05:38] <Spliffster> any gnome wizards in here ? i have a problem and no usable log data!!! argh
[05:38] <hmpedersen> Time to reboot
[05:38] <jaek> my hal is acting up... it takes over a minute to start duiring boot, and then after starting gnome i get a "failed to initialize hal" message... then it takes another minute for nautilus to run... even then it hangs all the time
[05:38] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: pwd /etc won't work
[05:39] <benjiman_> chavo: tried to find the opacity plugin in gconf, but cant find it anywhere :/
[05:39] <ompaul> Spliffster, so stop smokin and start tellin
[05:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: why are you using pwd /etc?
[05:39] <Spliffster> Tobberoth: try cd /etc
[05:39] <Crescendo> Would NVdia drivers be appropriate for "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV", and if so, what would be the package name?
[05:39] <Tobberoth> hehe I don't know what I'm doing really >_>
[05:39] <mgcross> hello all...anyone help me move grub to another hd?
[05:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: try this "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[05:39] <babo> gosh, I'm pretty much out of ideas on this one ... I've opened the firewalls, opened port forwarding on my router, opened the torrent ports on my router, attempted to bypass the router (pppoeconf won't pick up my isp access concentrator by it's self), but when I test my connection at scangate.com, it can't find any running services ... I should have dhclient and bittorrent server running. Or at least according to netstat -tulp I should anyway ...
[05:39] <Tobberoth> never mind, found it using the file system thing
[05:39] <mgcross> I'm using lvm, so the forums haven't been much help to me....I've looked
[05:39] <visik7> anyone have try to setup hostap with madwifi
[05:39] <Zahrun> hi, is there a way to start installation of 6.06 in expert mode?
[05:39] <babo> Is it possible to nmap yourself ?
[05:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: you need to do it as root
[05:39] <apokryphos> Zahrun: /msg ubotu alternate
[05:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> babo: yes
[05:40] <zandaa> hello
[05:40] <Kyral_FreeBSD> babo: just set the target to your IP
[05:40] <Crescendo> babo: nmap 127.0.0.1
[05:40] <babo> but it wouldn't necessarily be very effective I guess ...
[05:40] <Zahrun> apokryphos: thx
[05:40] <zandaa> :D upgrading to 6.06 now ;)
[05:40] <Crescendo> Would NVdia drivers be appropriate for "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV", and if so, what would be the package name?
[05:40] <Tobberoth> Darnit, it won't let me change it.. how do I go root outside of the terminal..
[05:40] <directhex|work> Crescendo, no, they'd be entirely inappropriate
[05:40] <Lemsip> Can anyone tell me how to get spatial nautilus working in Dapper?  I've tried the gconf thing, but it seems to have no effect
[05:41] <Spliffster> ompaul: since dapper GDM can't start `gnome-session. gdm reports (~/xsession-errors): "/etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing /usr/bin/gnome-session failed, will try to run x-terminal-emulator". then in the x/gnome-term  i start gnome-session manually. which works fine. exit-code is 0 and no error message is display. ... doh!
[05:41] <ompaul> Crescendo, no that is S3
[05:41] <chapium> Crescendo: no
[05:41] <CokeNCode> why is it that when I run noip2 as root, it comes up as being run as 'nobody' ?
[05:41] <cindy> anyone know how to modify postfix's main.cf so that bounce will start creating logs? all postfix does is forward mail to the postmaster right now
[05:41] <babo> oh, actually it tells me that all my ports are closed ... :-) ... :-(
[05:41] <pools_> does anybody know how to make konquerer the default file browser in gnome in 6.06 ?
[05:41] <FoolsRun> hah. I'm retarded. I figured it out: I'm using xfce, not gnome, so deleting gnome settings wouldn't reset anything :)
[05:41] <FoolsRun> This is what I get for not thinking :)
[05:41] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: just do in terminal "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[05:41] <Spliffster> thinking is bad mmmmmm'kay !?
[05:41] <rongenre> Hi there, trying to get a pcmcia orinoco card on a thinkpad working
[05:41] <ompaul> Spliffster, if that happened to me I might, sudo dpgk-reconfigure gdm or xserver-xorg
[05:41] <Crescendo> How to install drivers for S3, package name?
[05:42] <FoolsRun> back to my original question: does anyone run Pro/ENGINEER on Linux?
[05:42] <D-side> maybe i should simplify my question. i want to start the remote desktop "server" on my ubuntu machine, but i'm not sitting at it. i'm ssh'ed in. i ned to know what the daemon's name is, since i can't find any vncserver binary.
[05:42] <Tobberoth> Allright, done :)
[05:42] <directhex|work> Crescendo, xserver-xorg-video-savage
[05:42] <directhex|work> in theory
[05:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: did you see that line up there?
[05:42] <ompaul> Crescendo, they are there choose them in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:42] <Tobberoth> Yeah, I added it and saved
[05:42] <CokeNCode> D-side gdm ?
[05:42] <Spliffster> ompaul: ty for the hint ... will try. would i do this on
[05:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Now you should be able to mount it and write to it as your user
[05:42] <babo> nmap says all my ports are closed ... netstat -tulp says I'm listening to the world on 6881, 3142 ... iptables are empty ... any ideas ?
[05:42] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Should I be worried that simply su doesn't work in my terminal?
[05:42] <Spliffster> ompaul: whil gdm is down ?
[05:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: no, su doesn'
[05:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> t work in Ubuntu
[05:43] <D-side> CokeNCode: uh
[05:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: its sudo
[05:43] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: ah phew :)
[05:43] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I have one last question I know you can help me with
[05:43] <D-side> CokeNCode: i don't mean remote X, i mean the "remote desktop" option available in the gnome menus. i'm sure its just vnc, i just don't know how to start it from the console.
[05:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> shoot
[05:43] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: How do I make Ubuntu mount dev/sda8 to /share each time I start ubuntu?
[05:44] <directhex|work> there seems to be an utterly pointless bit ot hand-forcing on that front
[05:44] <Tobberoth> Or do it permanently, so to speak
[05:44] <Spliffster> D-side: vncviewer
[05:44] <CokeNCode> D-side oh ok
[05:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: see those "user,rw,umask" section in fstab?
[05:44] <Tobberoth> yeah
[05:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: tag "auto" onto it
[05:44] <Spliffster> D-side: vncviewer hostname : or do a man vncviewer in a console for details
[05:44] <D-side> Spliffster: that's what i'd use if i were sitting at the ubuntu box. instead i want to vnc INTO it.
[05:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: so its like "auto,user,rw..."
[05:44] <Tobberoth> oh ok :)
[05:45] <Tobberoth> Nice ^
[05:45] <Spliffster> D-side: what d you mean with "into" ?
[05:45] <Spliffster> D-side: are you looking for the server part ?
[05:45] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: But, how does it know where to mount it automatically?
[05:45] <D-side> I'm not sure I can make it any clearer.
[05:45] <D-side> thats indeed what i've been saying.
[05:45] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: it knows because you entered the data into fstab
[05:45] <Tobberoth> but i didn't O.o
[05:45] <directhex|work> D-side, vino.
[05:45] <Tobberoth> OH
[05:45] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: remember /dev/sda8 is the device and /share is the mountpoint right?
[05:45] <Tobberoth> now I see it :D
[05:46] <Tobberoth> Neat :)
[05:46] <Spliffster> D-side: i do not really understand what you are looking fro ... mayou you are looking for $(vncserver) ?
[05:46] <Tobberoth> Thanks, now to try fix the damn Windows install..
[05:46] <roe> how do I set the LANG env variable
[05:46] <roe> I don't want it to have UTF-8
[05:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: Thats fstab's job. FileSystem TABle
[05:46] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, you done yet ?
[05:46] <damnation> guys, i have a WPC54G wifi pcmcia card in my laptop, how do i get it working in linux? also what software do i use to utilise it ?
[05:46] <Spliffster> roe: export LANG=<locale>
[05:46] <D-side> directhex|work: aha, i havent used gnome in a while and i was completely unaware.
[05:46] <D-side> directhex|work: thanks
[05:46] <Spliffster> roe: for bash that is
[05:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: yah
[05:46] <D-side> Spliffster: you too, thanks for the attempt. :)
[05:47] <Spliffster> :
[05:47] <Spliffster> :)
[05:47] <cindy> anyone know how to modify postfix's main.cf so that bounce will start creating logs? all postfix does is forward mail to the postmaster right now
[05:47] <port7> anyone know if sun are planning on officially supportin ubunutu on the ultra 20's?
[05:47] <damnation> apparantly the wpc54gv3 (what i have) works on linux's list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:47] <Spliffster> D-side i what is your native language ?
[05:47] <jbirdAngel> what are the ultra 20's?
[05:47] <lekant> where do I find the ISO for the alternate installer?
[05:48] <ompaul> Spliffster, it would activate the next time you restart
[05:48] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, my problem is very complicated
[05:48] <D-side> Spliffster: English.
[05:48] <ompaul> Spliffster, I am out again for a little bit
[05:48] <apokryphos> lekant: ubuntu.com
[05:48] <Spliffster> ompaul: ty ... so i'll try ... and reboot :)
[05:48] <CokeNCode> lol
[05:48] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, the main problem is, often I would boot up and see NO internet connectivity
[05:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: no kiddin'
[05:48] <lekant> funny apok
[05:48] <ompaul> Spliffster, don't reboot just restart X
[05:48] <Spliffster> D-side: ok .. .there might be the problem ... my mother tongue isn't english
[05:48] <apokryphos> lekant: well, it is obvious.
[05:49] <lekant> yeah
[05:49] <lekant> you might as well just tell me it's on the internet
[05:49] <ompaul> Spliffster, log out ctrl alt backspace and log in
[05:49] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> can anyone tell me how to change my ip address using ifconfig? i've tried restarting the networking services but it doesn't seem to try to pull dhcp
[05:49] <Spliffster> ompaul: ok ... ctrl-alt-backspaceing then
[05:49] <D-side> Spliffster: rest assured, your English is better than my $your-native-language. :)
[05:49] <Spliffster> ompaul: thanx once again ... you are a valuable source!
[05:49] <apokryphos> lekant: you're telling me you don't know where to go from ubuntu.com?
[05:49] <lekant> obviously
[05:49] <directhex|work> jbirdAngel, an opteron-based workstation from sun?
[05:49] <lekant> i'm there right now
[05:49] <Crescendo> How to restart X server?
[05:49] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> green_earz - /etc/init.d/X11 restart
[05:49] <apokryphos> lekant: search for "download" on the page
[05:49] <jbirdAngel> directhex|work: okay thank you
[05:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Crescendo: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[05:49] <lekant> dude
[05:49] <lekant> i'm on the f'ing download
[05:49] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc change your ip? You mean your internal IP address?
[05:49] <apokryphos> I get........three matches
[05:50] <eric___> Anybody here have experience putting UBUNTU live on an iMac G3?
[05:50] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - yes - right now it's got an ipv6 address setup that doesn't help me; i need it to get online (dns isn't important in my case)
[05:50] <lekant> nevermind
[05:50] <directhex|work> lekant, click a mirror, click an iso with "alternate" in the name?
[05:50] <lekant> i thought hterew as a special area
[05:50] <eric___> I'm installing it and the screen just went black.
[05:50] <lekant> thanks direct
[05:50] <directhex|work> eric___, yes. insert install cd, run installer. done.
[05:50] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> the cable wasn't plugged in when it booted, ifup --force eth0 doesn't help, /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't help either
[05:50] <eric___> Is it supposed to be black for a long time?
[05:50] <eric___> Been about 15-20 minutes now.
[05:51] <eric___> CD drive is working.
[05:51] <directhex|work> eric___, using a text-based installer?
[05:51] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, so what happens is
[05:51] <damnation> guys, i have a WPC54G wifi pcmcia card in my laptop, how do i get it working in linux? also what software do i use to utilise it ?
[05:51] <damnation> apparantly the wpc54gv3 (what i have) works on linux's list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:51] <tuxmaniac> !mp3
[05:51] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:51] <eric___> Started off text-based.
[05:51] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, I need to go to NETWORK Settings
[05:51] <saquib> and see
[05:51] <rongenre> Bleah, seriously.. this wifi stuff is horrible.  I have a standard orinoco card, it's worked with previously ubuntu versions.  I just booted a recent knoppix disk and it worked there too out of the box
[05:51] <eric___> Then saw the UBUNTU logo and progress bar, then the screen went black.
[05:51] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc are you trying to get a static IP or are you using DHCP ?
[05:51] <rongenre> What's the deal with dapper and wifi?
[05:51] <saquib> that my my DEFAULT GATEWAY DEVICE is BLANK
[05:51] <FoolsRun> rongenre: works fine here...
[05:51] <saquib> i have only oe device eth0
[05:52] <tuxmaniac> !ubuntuguide
[05:52] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[05:52] <saquib> even if i choose that
[05:52] <rongenre> foolsrun -- an orinoco card?
[05:52] <Spliffster> D-side: well, i am not too sure how much i actually perform in swiss german and german .. some ppl tell me i shdoul go back to school. howebver, i never had any signifficant problems with non spoken languages like perl, c, php and the such ... :P
[05:52] <_maney> Q: is there some secret way to remove the bloody Xs from gterm's tabs, or do I need to stop using it?
[05:52] <saquib> as the default gateway now
[05:52] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - i would like ot use dhcp, but if that doesn't work i don't mind setting it to a static ip address [i'm using the live cd to get some data off of another hard drive that windows doesn't like] 
[05:52] <FoolsRun> rongenre: no, linksys card.
[05:52] <saquib> the net wont work
[05:52] <tuxmaniac> !ubuntuguide tuxmaniac
[05:52] <saquib> but what i can do is
[05:52] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tuxmaniac
[05:52] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> the card is obviously installed, as eth0 shows up
[05:52] <apokryphos> saquib: FAQ
[05:52] <saquib> Disable that eth0
[05:52] <saquib> then enable that eth0
[05:52] <rongenre> I get that too.. eth0, and wifi0 [or wlan0, i can't recall] 
[05:52] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> saquib - you mean ifconfig eth0 down and up?
[05:52] <D-side> can't start vino from !X? good lord.
[05:53] <rongenre> foolsrun got it -- I wonder if i'm under some funky ndis stuff on knoppix and the prev versions
[05:53] <saquib> eyah i think that (didnt try the command) - i mena simply clicking DISABLE then ENABLE
[05:53] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc are you running gnome ?
[05:53] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - no, that mcahine doesn't like X
[05:53] <surfdue> hey
[05:53] <saquib> after this my Interwould work seemlessly!
[05:53] <surfdue> whats the command to restore your system
[05:53] <surfdue> i re emberd it
[05:53] <saquib> then again after next boot
[05:53] <saquib> the internet wont work
[05:53] <saquib> but SOMETIMES it works....
[05:54] <lekant> the internet won't work
[05:54] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> saquib - i don't want to reboot, i've got several things in /tmp i want off that box
[05:54] <lekant> wow
[05:54] <surfdue> rescue thanks
[05:54] <lekant> can you be anymore nebulous?
[05:54] <saquib> what can i do? :S
[05:54] <dr_willis> Ok dang it.. Every time i print somthinhg. it prints.. then if i print somthing else - it just 'hangs' untill i restart the cups service.
[05:54] <FoolsRun> rongenre: you don't just get ra0 in the network settinngs?
[05:54] <dr_willis> anyone else seeing this 'issie' ?
[05:54] <FoolsRun> that's what Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu all gave me
[05:55] <TheStonepedo> hooray exploding transformers.  i'd hate to stay online too long
[05:55] <byen> Hey Guys, my Dapper cannot see my external USB drive how can i make it work.. it worked on breezy
[05:56] <TheStonepedo> byen: is it in /media?
[05:56] <directhex|work> ra0 is for RaLink RT2x00 devices
[05:56] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc did you try ifup eth0 ?
[05:56] <saquib> ANY HELP GUYS??
[05:56] <rongenre> foolsrun no -- what's ra0?
[05:56] <FoolsRun> directhex|work: okay, some equivilent then :)
[05:56] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - yes
[05:56] <apokryphos> saquib: no shouting please.
[05:56] <rongenre> i get eth0 and wifi0
[05:56] <byen> TheStonepedo, nope
[05:56] <leo__> will the kbd-chooser option in my isolinux.cfg also be responsible for setting the correct keymap in my xorg.conf (on a livecd)
[05:56] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> it did nothing that i can see
[05:56] <FoolsRun> rongenre: setting up wifi0 doesn't work?
[05:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: Sorry, I dont know ATM
[05:56] <apokryphos> dr_willis: there have been a lot of complaints about cups in dapper unfortunately
[05:56] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc hmmm ... are you sure that is the correct device ... try ifup eth1
[05:56] <saquib> my breezy had no issues like these
[05:56] <surfdue> hey
[05:56] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - there is no eth1, it's only th eloopbackup and eth0
[05:56] <Spliffster> ok, restarting X ... see you later
[05:57] <[NP] Tangent> does anybody know why Dapper would keep resetting my DNS servers to a pair of them that won't work?
[05:57] <saquib> i think 6.06 is lil more buggy
[05:57] <surfdue> I kinda messed up the partition table with fdisk, what do i do?
[05:57] <surfdue> can I rescue somehow?
[05:57] <dr_willis> apokryphos:  heh - ok.. sadly it worked fine with the betas. :P
[05:57] <apokryphos> dr_willis: mainly to do with forcing the new version in
[05:57] <TheStonepedo> [NP] Tangent: just write down a non-censoring dns server
[05:57] <directhex|work> surfdue, with parted, on the command line, if you're VERy lucky
[05:57] <TheStonepedo> if you set your dns server manually then you should have no worries
[05:57] <dr_willis> apokryphos:   sad. cups has been like a total no brainer for me the last few years.
[05:57] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc oh k. Well, I dunno then. I'd have to know a bit more about your internal network settings to try to troubleshoot
[05:57] <eric___> Can anyone give me advice on using Ubuntu 5.10 live with an iMac G3/233?
[05:57] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, can you tell me how to make a Specific cmmand SUCH that, it wont need a sudo?
[05:58] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo, where can I set it to always use a certain set of DNS serv ers?
[05:58] <surfdue> how do i get to parted
[05:58] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - what is it you need to know? i know the pool range...theres nothing else to know...
[05:58] <FoolsRun> rongenre?
[05:58] <apokryphos> dr_willis: quite notably: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/418
[05:58] <surfdue> and how do i use it
[05:58] <surfdue> :P
[05:58] <TheStonepedo> eric___: my first advice would be to use a newer version if you're using a live CD
[05:58] <[NP] Tangent> I tried the dhclient config
[05:58] <eric___> I pop in the disk, answered a bunch of prompts and seemed to be loading OK.  Then the screen went blank.
[05:58] <byen> I really need this help guys... i need my Dapper to see my external USB (which it did in Breezy)
[05:58] <rongenre> FoolsRun Er.. what am I doing wrong.. i boot the dapper cd
[05:58] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> theres got to be SOME way to set your ip address manually w/o rebooting
[05:58] <apokryphos> dr_willis: note that there's a whole series there, part one, part two..... ouch ;-)
[05:58] <[NP] Tangent> but I'm still having the same problem
[05:58] <directhex|work> my suggestion is use d-i, not ubiquity, for installing
[05:58] <TheStonepedo> [NP] Tangent: www.google.com/search?q=non+censoring+dns
[05:58] <hmpedersen> I'm not going to spend any more time on this.. Ubuntu just killed itself during an update!
[05:58] <FoolsRun> rongenre: you're using a LiveCD? And you have a wifi network you want to connect to?
[05:58] <hmpedersen> It deleted /dev
[05:58] <bullium> is it possible to shade windows?
[05:58] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc what is your ip range ... and do you know which IPs are already taken ?
[05:58] <TheStonepedo> then i'd plug that into system->administration->networking (if you're using gnome)
[05:58] <rongenre> FoolsRun ok, there's more to this than there used to be
[05:58] <genaus> for my usb drive works fine strange
[05:59] <surfdue> like i didnt format
[05:59] <surfdue> i just removed the part?
[05:59] <surfdue> how do i get this back!
[05:59] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - i know everything that's taken; i can use anything from 2 to about 100, but i'm oging with 88
[05:59] <chavo> bullium, right click the title bar should be shade in the menu
[05:59] <rongenre> FoolsRun yes
[05:59] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo, the problem I'm having is that it keeps adding my router's IP to the DNS server list
[05:59] <[NP] Tangent> at the top
[05:59] <chavo> bullium, you can also set it to rollup on double click
[05:59] <[NP] Tangent> which causes it to not work
[05:59] <bullium> chavo, nope
[05:59] <TheStonepedo> [NP] Tangent: is there any reason not to use a static local IP?
[05:59] <FoolsRun> rongenre: you should be able to go to... uhm... system/administration/networking (or something like that, I don't have an Ubuntu install in front of me) and set up wifi0
[06:00] <sevtastic> how does one set up multiple sound sources to play at the same time?
[06:00] <bullium> chavo, since the option isn't there were do i set it up at?
[06:00] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo: I'm using a static local IP
[06:00] <rongenre> FoolsRun yeah I"ve been there
[06:00] <TheStonepedo> i don't know why it would poll your router for stuff if you just set the router as a gateway
[06:00] <FoolsRun> rongenre: what doesn't work?
[06:00] <FoolsRun> or didn't work
[06:00] <byen> I really need this help guys... i need my Dapper to see my external USB (which it did in Breezy)
[06:00] <FoolsRun> or confuses you?
[06:01] <[NP] Tangent> it's only set as a gateway
[06:01] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - can you help me in this case?
[06:01] <rongenre> FoolsRun let me boot into ubuntu... the network setup didn't have my ap ssid
[06:01] <FoolsRun> byen: hang on, everyone's pretty tied up right now
[06:01] <[NP] Tangent> I don't know why it would keep reverting to using my router as a dns server
[06:01] <byen> okey FoolsRun :)
[06:01] <rongenre> foolsrun but the commandline showed it
[06:01] <rongenre> foolsrun booting the livecd
[06:01] <FoolsRun> rongenre: you have to type in your ssid, it doesn't autodetect like Windows would.
[06:02] <rongenre> foolsrun ok, got it.. it did show up, just not there
[06:02] <TheStonepedo> [NP] Tangent: are you using network-admin?
[06:02] <[NP] Tangent> yes I am
[06:02] <dr_willis> apokryphos:   wowsers - that url has some very harsh comments. :P and seems to hit the cups fiasco right on the head.
[06:03] <FoolsRun> rongenre: so in the networking settings, fill out your ssid, make sure your WEP passphrase is in there (if you have one) and the type is set to "hexedecimal", and you're set to "DHCP".
[06:03] <TheStonepedo> in your ethernet connection properties it doesn't say "DHCP" right?
[06:03] <bullium> chavo, I found it System -> Prefrences -> Windows -> Titlebar Action
[06:03] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo, correct
[06:03] <apokryphos> dr_willis: indeed, and that's not a useless user rant, that guy is a very knowledgable cups developer who's set up and managed cups for other distributions before (and manages kde printing)
[06:03] <bullium> chavo, but the option still isn't there on a right click
[06:03] <chavo> bullium, yeah I was looking for that, but Im not running gnome right now
[06:03] <rongenre> foolsrun ok, it'll be a few mins
[06:03] <TheStonepedo> have you tried manually adding DNS servers?
[06:04] <FoolsRun> rongenre: unless I'm completely misunderstanding what your problem is :)
[06:04] <[NP] Tangent> yes, that's what I've been doing over and over
[06:04] <sambagirl> if i have a ssl connection does this mean that i am exempt from monitoring by Echelon for word search? since ssl is encrypted right? but i sitill need tempest techonoilogy for preventing radiation emmissions from escaping to other sensoring or monitoring technologies yes?
[06:04] <[NP] Tangent> because it keeps changing what those are
[06:04] <rongenre> foolsrun cool, thanks..
[06:04] <bullium> chavo, ok thanks...
[06:04] <TheStonepedo> [NP] Tangent: i'd say it's your router trying to force something to update DNS servers
[06:04] <Anchoito21> hola
[06:04] <FoolsRun> byen: okay, your USB drive isn't in /media?
[06:04] <Tobberoth> Is there anyway to automatically reconfigure GRUB to the optimal settings? Maybe that would fix my windows "un-bootableness"
[06:04] <CokeNCode> hmmm, i just connected to an ftp server, but even though I was connected, no commands worked ... it just spit back my commands at me ... any suggestions?
[06:05] <byen> nope FoolsRun
[06:05] <chavo> bullium, it should be there afaik
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo, the thing is that, it never did this with Breezy
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> it's only doing it with Dapper now
[06:05] <byen> FoolsRun, the wierd thing is it worked on Breezy
[06:05] <chavo> but like I said I'm not running gnome at the moment
[06:05] <FoolsRun> byen: is the drive awake? Is the light on? Is it spinning up?
[06:05] <TheStonepedo> your router must be compatible with some hot new dapper feature
[06:05] <TheStonepedo> to your dismay
[06:05] <byen> FoolsRun, yes
[06:05] <FoolsRun> byen: and when you unplug/replug it, it doesn't magically start working?
[06:05] <TheStonepedo> i'm curious, did you upgrade or install fresh?
[06:06] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - did you log in?
[06:06] <byen> TheStonepedo, fresh install
[06:06] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc it connected me automoatically it seemed ... but ...
[06:06] <Tobberoth> Anyone who can help me fix my darn windows? :(
[06:06] <FoolsRun> byen: and when you unplug/replug it, it doesn't magically start working?
[06:06] <byen> :( nope FoolsRun
[06:07] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo: I upgraded
[06:07] <TheStonepedo> Tobberoth: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/114124-post3.html
[06:07] <tombs> hi all
[06:08] <PPower> hello
[06:08] <TheStonepedo> [NP] Tangent: i had a very rough time upgrading and ended up doing a full install after a few hours of fighting
[06:08] <foolip> I have both chinese and japanese fonts installed, but want the chinese fonts to be used by default when the character exists in both fonts. how can I set font priorities to achieve this?
[06:08] <Tobberoth> Thanks thestonepedo
[06:09] <[NP] Tangent> well
[06:09] <FoolsRun> Okay, guys, I'm as far as I can go (which is not far at all) trying to help byen. How might s/he check if the drive is being detected but not mounted?
[06:09] <marlun> Can I add so that /srv/ is on another harddrive then the main one?
[06:09] <mwe> foolip: I think it depends on the language defined for the document at least on web pages
[06:09] <TheStonepedo> i figured out that the ~/ folder was very handy.  it was much easier to backup before installing when everything was in my home directory
[06:09] <byen> thanks FoolsRun
[06:10] <Tobberoth> Hmm, i don't tink this will work.. GRUB finds Windows and does all the stuff up to chainloader +1
[06:10] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc did you receive my private messages ?
[06:10] <Tobberoth> then it simply stops
[06:10] <TheStonepedo> would anyone recommend a tutorial on how to use tar and bzip for command line compression?
[06:10] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - did you receive mine..?
[06:10] <foolip> mwe, the problem is also in e.g. gedit, where characters are fixed between fonts. this is ugly as one is antialiased and the other isn't...
[06:10] <[NP] Tangent> yeah
[06:10] <[NP] Tangent> everything works wonderfully, but it keeps changing that dns server
[06:10] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc errr ... no ...
[06:10] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> ...
[06:10] <chavo> TheStonepedo, man tar is pretty good
[06:10] <Samuli^> TheStonepedo, man tar
[06:10] <TheStonepedo> oh right
[06:11] <CokeNCode> hmmm, i've had had problems with BitchX and pm's
[06:11] <Samuli^> ;)
[06:11] <TheStonepedo> hooray man pages.  i forget linux is nice like that
[06:11] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - http://pastebin.com/762637
[06:11] <mwe> foolip: ok. I don't know how to fix it though
[06:11] <Tobberoth> I don't really care if I have to format the partition WIndows is on an install it again.. my whole problem is to get grub working afterwards
[06:11] <TheStonepedo> Tobberoth: i'd recommend not using grub
[06:11] <TheStonepedo> windows is finicky and the windows bootloader can be used to load linux
[06:12] <TheStonepedo> it's an ugly way to do it but it works
[06:12] <Tobberoth> Oh?
[06:12] <Tobberoth> How?
[06:12] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> i use grub for linux/solaris/windows triple boot
[06:12] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> i used*
[06:13] <[NP] Tangent> LILO works with windows very well
[06:13] <[NP] Tangent> dunno fi you can install it when you install Ubuntu
[06:13] <Tobberoth> grub has worked fine for me up til now.. the problem is that windows SUCK and won't boot because I made a new partition in Ubuntu >_<
[06:13] <FoolsRun> byen: hmm...
[06:13] <TheStonepedo> Tobberoth: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/3443-dual-booting-windows.html
[06:13] <CokeNCode> hmmm, why am i not seeing pm's in BitchX
[06:14] <CokeNCode> this is weird
[06:14] <byen> FoolsRun, this is amazing... it works on all OSs and worked on Breezy too
[06:14] <TheStonepedo> if you look for the word "bootloader" you'll find a lil' howto on using the windows bootloader for windows and linux
[06:14] <FoolsRun> byen: it's not NTFS formatted is it?
[06:14] <profoXP> ivoks, hello
[06:15] <byen> FoolsRun, Fat32
[06:15] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc so there's no way to get pass that huh ?
[06:15] <FoolsRun> byen: and it's not mounted in /mnt, /media or on your desktop
[06:15] <profoXP> ivoks, so I rebooted with changing acpi-support and it didnt work, I have to do something in xorg.conf now ? (something with AGP)
[06:16] <chavo> Tobberoth, is your windows boot.ini on a ntfs partition?
[06:16] <Tobberoth> Yes
[06:16] <byen> FoolsRun, nope
[06:17] <chavo> well there's still a couple of ways to fix it,
[06:17] <FoolsRun> byen: I'm afraid I don't know what to tell you. I'm far from an expert. Try asking the channel again.
[06:17] <Tobberoth> I don't understand why Windows won't boot >_< I haven't touched grub or windows
[06:17] <Tobberoth> I just made some unpartitioned space into a partition
[06:17] <byen> sure FoolsRun atleast you tried :D
[06:17] <chavo> Tobberoth, you created a new partiton, and now your boot.ini points to the wrong one
[06:18] <Tobberoth> It does? The partition I created is at the end of the drive, windows is on the primary one..
[06:18] <Tobberoth> Well, teach me how to reach the boot.ini then ^^ I hear you can mount NTSF if you're skilled
[06:18] <radical> safd
[06:19] <chavo> Tobberoth, you can mount ntfs just not write to it
[06:19] <FoolsRun> Tobberoth: first you have to eat these worms and walk across this broken glass. Only then will you be l33t enough to mount NTFS.
[06:19] <Tobberoth> Hmm
[06:19] <Lorvija> chavo nowdays u can write on ntfs too.. (:
[06:19] <Tobberoth> I'll still need to write to it to fix the boot.ini right?
[06:19] <chavo> Tobberoth, you might try booting with your windows cd and running repair, then run fixboot
[06:20] <Tobberoth> chavo, i know, but that will mess up grub so I won't be able to boot into linux
[06:20] <Frogzoo> !captive
[06:20] <ubotu> from memory, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[06:20] <dynamite> what channel can i go to get help?
[06:20] <CokeNCode> jeeze in here is a real hive of activity today, can't take your eyes off the screen for one second
[06:20] <chavo> Tobberoth, grub is easy to reinstall after that
[06:20] <iNiku> Tobberoth: install grub on a floppy so you can boot off that after fixing windows?
[06:20] <Tobberoth> chavo, but how, I can't install grub from windows..
[06:20] <chavo> CokeNCode, 958 people in here :)
[06:20] <Tobberoth> I don't have a floppy drive
[06:20] <CokeNCode> 6.06 is really bringing them out of the woodwork
[06:20] <chavo> Tobberoth, you can use your ubuntu cd
[06:20] <Kejk_PL> Is there enywhere list of known probles like Kubuntu have? (wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems)
[06:21] <Frogzoo> dynamite: this is the ubuntu support channel - if you need ubuntu support, you're in the right place
[06:21] <Tobberoth> Chavo, how do I use my ubuntu CD for it? I know how to boot into liveCD, but I don't know how to install grub from a liveCD OS
[06:21] <cvegas> hola
[06:22] <chavo> Tobberoth, you just mount your ubuntu partiton, then run chroot on it
[06:22] <cvegas> me llamo rocio
[06:22] <chavo> Tobberoth, then you can run grub-install
[06:22] <Frogzoo> CokeNCode: the dapper cd torrent has > 1000 seeds :)
[06:22] <apokryphos> !es
[06:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:22] <cvegas> no soy guiri
[06:22] <profoXP> ivoks, i am trying this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend?highlight=%28suspend%29
[06:22] <Tobberoth> and grub-install will automatically find windows etc?
[06:23] <profoXP> Tobberoth, yes
[06:23] <BetteS> I have a problem whit installing cups-pdf, ubuntu does not seams to detect the new "printer" in the new printer interface
[06:23] <chavo> Tobberoth, it'll just reload grub into your mbr
[06:23] <Lorvija> Frogzoo how many peers? (:
[06:23] <profoXP> Tobberoth, the newest live (desktop) cd will have an icon on the desktop "Install"
[06:23] <FoolsRun> rongenre:  any luck?
[06:23] <profoXP> Tobberoth, doubleclick it and you are off. be carefull at partiionaning if you dont know what you're doing
[06:23] <Tobberoth> I know profoXP, but that installs the whole OS
[06:23] <profoXP> Tobberoth, do you only want half the os ?
[06:23] <profoXP> :)
[06:24] <Tobberoth> profoXP:  I onlt want grub :9 I have the OS allready
[06:24] <Frogzoo> Lorvija: 223
[06:24] <miranda82> hello everyone
[06:24] <Lorvija> Frogzoo heh okay, nice ratio (:
[06:24] <chavo> Tobberoth, whatever is in your menu.list now will be there
[06:24] <cvegas> tengo 13 aos
[06:24] <miranda82> does anyone know, why i cant mount a cd? Jun  6 18:19:53 localhost kernel: [4295075.027000]  Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[06:24] <Lorvija> miranda82 the cd might be corrupted?
[06:24] <cvegas> no entiendo nada
[06:24] <Tobberoth> Well, I'll go repair the windows install.. then hope for the best ^
[06:25] <miranda82> Lorvija, nop,e i can read it on amcos
[06:25] <Hoxzer> Has somebody here got dmix work with TS?
[06:25] <miranda82> Lorvija, macos
[06:25] <profoXP> Tobberoth, ooh, right.. i dont know if its possible with the ubuntu cd, but it should be possible with grub-install, my buddy phar0z is an expert with grub :) but he seems to be offline right now :(
[06:25] <Lorvija> miranda82 okay, then wait for someone more intelligent than me to help (:
[06:25] <sempereademfr> Hi everyone, I'm gonna need some help with lm-sensors, I've just installed it and here is my problem: ju@ju-desktop:~$ sensors-detect
[06:25] <sempereademfr> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[06:25] <sempereademfr> ju@ju-desktop:~$ sensors
[06:25] <sempereademfr> No sensors found!
[06:25] <miranda82> Lorvija, thx anyway...
[06:25] <livevil> I'm configuring samba, when I edit "    vi /etc/samba/user" I insert my username and password and the a command for permission, but after what should I do to save the file?
[06:25] <sempereademfr> and when I type : sh ./prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh, it says taht there is no such file
[06:25] <profoXP> Tobberoth, windows repair will fix the MBR but it will destroy grub anyway, so you can only boot windows, afaik
[06:26] <cvegas> espaol prfavor
[06:26] <livevil> someone can help me?
[06:26] <apokryphos> cvegas: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:26] <Lorvija> uhm.. miranda82 does it have copy protection? (:
[06:26] <Tobberoth> profoXP: I know.. but hopefully I can fix linux afterwards
[06:26] <chavo> profoXP, he know that I'm telling him how to fix grub with the live cd
[06:26] <Lorvija> just crossed my mind..
[06:26] <miranda82> Lorvija, nope
[06:26] <Lorvija> data or music cd?
[06:26] <miranda82> Lorvija, it is a cd, i recorded myself with data onn it
[06:26] <Lorvija> or something else
[06:26] <Lorvija> miranda82 did you burn it with mac?
[06:26] <miranda82> nope
[06:26] <chavo> Tobberoth, when you get to that point and boot up the live cd, come back here and I'll walk you through it
[06:26] <JimBunder> Hey I need some help, I need to find out how to apply this patch to wine, everyone says its differnt for debain
[06:27] <JimBunder> http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2006-April/046683.html
[06:27] <Lorvija> miranda82 with ubuntu then?
[06:27] <FoolsRun> Lorvija: MacOS burnt CDs aren't copy protected any more than Windows or Linux burnt CDs are.
[06:27] <miranda82> of course they aren't..
[06:27] <duarte> can someone help me... I uninstallled firefox on ubuntu dapper drake... How can i recue my system?
[06:28] <miranda82> btw they're not recorded on amc
[06:28] <Lorvija> FoolsRun aye.. i just sometimes have had problems burning cds in one os and when taking them to another because the format is the certain burning program has used is weird...
[06:28] <bullrage> when i change priveliges on a drive, how do i make them apply to all folders on the disk?
[06:28] <Frogzoo> !tell Tobberoth about grubrestore
[06:28] <rongenre> foolsrun, booting still... had a hold up on my end
[06:28] <tritium> duarte: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop should pull it back in
[06:28] <Lorvija> FoolsRun for example windows > windows or windows > ubuntu etc.. (:
[06:28] <FoolsRun> duarte: how is your system screwed up? all you did was remove FireFox.
[06:28] <iiiears> Alex Fienman's free iso burner powertoy seems to work pretty well.
[06:29] <czer323> duarte> I belive you could just type "sudo apt-get install firefox" and it'll try to reinstall firefox if that's what you're looking for.
[06:29] <dr_willis> iiiears:  i also like 'burn at once' for my windows-iso needs.
[06:29] <bullium> duarte, it will be under mozilla-firefox
[06:29] <iiiears> dr_willis: Haven't tried that. - sounds good.
[06:29] <dr_willis> iiiears:  only issue with it - it 'tries' to burn dvd isos' but cant. :P
[06:30] <JimBunder> Can anyone help me with patching wine while I compile it? please message me!
[06:30] <iiiears> the iso burnher powertoy broke for DVDs with SP2 also.
[06:30] <Frogzoo> JimBunder: follow this link:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[06:30] <dr_willis> iiiears:  oh?  i never noticed them ever working with dvd. :P
[06:31] <bullium> duarte, nope I was wrong just firefox will do :)
[06:31] <Frogzoo> JimBunder: why are you patching wine?
[06:31] <miranda82> Lorvija, solved with mount -t auto
[06:31] <nab> where should i go for help with my wireless card? i have that darned broadcom 4318 :@
[06:31] <Lorvija> miranda82 okay, nice job (:
[06:32] <iiiears> dr_willis:  Is there a free utility for burning DVDs in windows?
[06:32] <dr_willis> iiiears:  not that ive noticed. I normally use nero. :P
[06:32] <Tobberoth> I have one problem.. how do I know the root password for the liveCD?
[06:32] <dr_willis> Tobberoth:  there is none
[06:33] <Tobberoth> allright
[06:33] <byen> can anyone tell me how to mount my external USB hdd (which mounted auto on Breezy)
[06:33] <dr_willis> !mount
[06:33] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[06:33] <nab> anybody can help me with my wireless? i feel so close to getting it!! :(
[06:34] <FoolsRun> nab: the networking config tool doesn't do it for you?
[06:34] <bullrage> when i change priveliges on a drive, how do i make them apply to all folders on the disk?
[06:34] <nab> nope, i had to use ndisrapper, and it finally managed to get to a wireless network, but.... even then i have no internet
[06:35] <systemsos> Hi - is it possible to install ATI (fglrx) in a 32bit chroot environment? For getting wine to work with Graphics card.
[06:35] <iiiears> This didn't turn up anythig that was reviewed or recommended by a familiar source http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=free+dvd+burner&btnG=Google+Search
[06:35] <nab> i use network manager, as everything points this package as being better for wireless
[06:35] <Anchoito21> anyone knows to install alsaconf?
[06:35] <FoolsRun> nab: the network should be assigning you an ip and a gateway (if it's DHCP...), is it not?
[06:35] <nab> yup
[06:35] <duarte> duarte
[06:35] <FoolsRun> nab: is it, or isn't it?
[06:35] <Anchoito21> nab can you help me?
[06:35] <nab> but im quite new, how do i check the ip infos?
[06:36] <FoolsRun> nab: bleh, I'm quite new, too :)
[06:36] <Anchoito21> please i need help
[06:36] <nab> Anchoito21:  ehlp you with what?
[06:36] <Anchoito21> alsaconf
[06:36] <duarte> sudo apt-get install firefox does not work
[06:36] <railk> nab in the terminal enter ifconfig or something
[06:36] <GaiaX11> What does it mean?  (Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' is released!)
[06:36] <Anchoito21> i need to install a sound card crystal cx4235
[06:36] <systemsos> mozilla-firefox?
[06:37] <FoolsRun> duarte: try apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[06:37] <Frogzoo> bullrage: depends on the file system - for fat you can use umask & dmask + uid/gid
[06:37] <nab> ok thx one sec
[06:37] <duarte> unmet dependencies
[06:37] <Intangir> how do i install java for firefox
[06:37] <railk> nab: im not sure havn't got ubuntu in front of me atm just gentoo :P
[06:37] <dr_willis> !java
[06:37] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:37] <livevil> I'm configuring samba, but I'm having trouble following the wiki, i there someone can help me?
[06:37] <Frogzoo> Intangir: in dapper, sun's jre is in the stock repos
[06:37] <Intangir> how do i make it work in firefox though
[06:37] <GaiaX11> I am already using Dapper Drake
[06:37] <systemsos> is it possible to install ATI (fglrx) in a 32bit chroot environment? For getting wine to work with Graphics card.
[06:37] <Frogzoo> !tell Intangir about java
[06:37] <bullrage> Frogzoo, ext3. At the moment I have to sudo to move files from one partition to another, but I want to be able to do it without sudo
[06:38] <nab> ok railk i have a ip address for my wireless, but what do i do with it? (its DHCP btw)
[06:38] <GaiaX11> Does it mean that it is stable?
[06:38] <ojai> After upgrading my Dell XPS laptop from Breezy to Dapper, my sound stopped working -- any suggestions?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> GaiaX11: When did you start using Dapper?
[06:38] <Anchoito21> hi?
[06:38] <czer323> What IRC client do most people prefer?  I want something with at least the flexibility of changing the system message that appear.  I don't need to know that everyone has joined the channel.
[06:38] <GaiaX11> 4 weeks ago
[06:38] <cdubya> whew. was beginning to think I wasn't ever going to get Dapper to take.
[06:38] <Intangir> i already have java installed
[06:38] <dr_willis> czer323:  most all of them can do that.
[06:38] <railk> nab: well if yuo have an ip adress im really not sure :P
[06:38] <Intangir> but it wont run applets on firefox
[06:39] <Intangir> how do i make java, thats alreayd installed, work on firefox
[06:39] <dr_willis> czer323:  xchat - is fairly decent.
[06:39] <lAN^pARTY> hello everyone
[06:39] <toxic_> My sound doesn't work in Dapper. It worked in Breezy fine.
[06:39] <GaiaX11> tonyyarusso, 4 weeks ago
[06:39] <toxic_> Can someone help me?
[06:39] <lAN^pARTY> my totem no work say missed pluguins
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> GaiaX11: Then you were originally using development software that was not yet entirely ready.  As of June 1, it was finished.
[06:39] <lAN^pARTY> can anyone hel me please
[06:39] <cdubya> totem doesn't seem to want to work though, and I'm finding lots of little things....
[06:39] <Anchoito21> anyone can help me?
[06:39] <cdubya> this is going to be a long haul
[06:39] <toxic_> Please look at this thread --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1102616
[06:40] <czer323> dr> that's what I thought too... But i've been playing with xchat and the gnome version of xchat, and neither one seems to let me get rid of those extra status changes.
[06:40] <cdubya> !anyone
[06:40] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[06:40] <nab> lAN^pARTY: did you try easy ubuntu? it gets you most of the plugins needed, theres also automatix
[06:40] <dr_willis> czer323:  i manage to get rid of them all. theres a lot of /settings you can tweak. that dont hafe menu/config items as well
[06:40] <Sebast> I have tryed to upgrade to Dappar from Breezy, but it has screwed up.  I don't think the new kernel has been installed.  ,but the new version of Firefox so on has.  anyway when I try and boot the system I get error messages
[06:40] <cdubya> Anchoito21, what is it you needed help with?
[06:40] <nexu> anyone have repository for dbus 0.61 ?
[06:40] <czer323> !automatix
[06:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[06:40] <dr_willis> czer323:  or go hardcore and use irssi
[06:40] <GaiaX11> tonyyarusso, does it mean that they already started sending the new cd's in Shipit?
[06:40] <lAN^pARTY> nab i,m new in ubuntu
[06:41] <nab> im new to
[06:41] <nab> too
[06:41] <nab> :P
[06:41] <lAN^pARTY> i use suse before
[06:41] <cindy> in the bounce(8) page, it says that it "maintains per-message log files with non-delivery status information", is anyone familiar with this daemon (its from postfix)?
[06:41] <lekant> suse is shit
[06:41] <lekant> seriously
[06:41] <lAN^pARTY> dapper you got
[06:41] <lekant> ubuntu is probably the best linux distro ever
[06:41] <nab> yp
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> GaiaX11: I think those are probably being shipped now, yes.  We've been able to place orders for a few weeks.
[06:41] <lAN^pARTY> lekant
[06:41] <lAN^pARTY> suse nice
[06:41] <lekant> no it's not
[06:41] <lekant> it's slow
[06:41] <dr_willis> lekant:  Probably? Bah! :P
[06:41] <lekant> i just installed 10.1 on a 2gb dell desktop
[06:41] <lAN^pARTY> yes
[06:41] <lekant> with a 2.4ghz intel cpu
[06:42] <lekant> and 2 geforce 6200's
[06:42] <lekant> firefox DOGGED
[06:42] <toxic_> My sound doesn't work in Dapper. It worked in Breezy fine.
[06:42] <toxic_> Can someone help me?
[06:42] <isluga> ola
[06:42] <lekant> yast2 is extremely cluggy and bloated
[06:42] <Frogzoo> Intangir: read the pm from ubotu & follow the wiki instructions
[06:42] <nab> i need an ubuntu guru now!!! :P
[06:42] <FoolsRun> toxic_: check for drivers? Maybe?
[06:42] <GaiaX11> tonyyarusso, good! then!
[06:42] <lekant> the yast2 navigation system is HORRIBLE
[06:42] <lekant> sax2 is garbage
[06:42] <isluga> ola
[06:42] <FoolsRun> nab: say "ubuntu guru" five times fast and one will magically appear.
[06:42] <lAN^pARTY> lekant lol
[06:42] <toxic_> um - what drivers?
[06:42] <lekant> the only thing i liked about SuSE is their neat little framebuffer hacks so it says there logo when you're in console mode
[06:42] <Sebast> I tryed to upgrade to Dappar from Breezy, but stuff has screwed up.  Now I cannot boot Ubuntu at all.  and get error messages when it's trying to boot it
[06:43] <lAN^pARTY> yes it is slow
[06:43] <lekant> i mean
[06:43] <nab> i dint think so FoolsRun... im newb but not that much :P
[06:43] <lekant> it's unbelievably slow
[06:43] <FoolsRun> toxic_: whichever ones go with your sound hardware
[06:43] <lekant> you can't scroll
[06:43] <lekant> it just fucking chokes
[06:43] <lekant> like
[06:43] <ompaul> !language
[06:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[06:43] <lekant> how the hell did they screw that up?
[06:43] <FoolsRun> nab: I just wanted to see you say "ubuntu guru' without getting tongue tied.
[06:43] <ompaul> lekant, Dont use that language thanks
[06:43] <toxic_> yea, i dont know what those ones are - nor do i know how to check if they are correct
[06:43] <lekant> the only thing novell is doing right is XGL
[06:43] <void^> lekant: relax
[06:43] <Sebast> hummmmmmmmmmm  anyone going to try and help me?  or am I Just wasting my time here at the moment
[06:43] <lAN^pARTY> lekant you right
[06:43] <GaiaX11> Sebast, do you really mean upgrade our downgrade?
[06:44] <nab> loll kk FoolsRun
[06:44] <Frogzoo> ompaul: screw is not bad language, just btw
[06:44] <ompaul> Frogzoo, read back
[06:44] <FoolsRun> toxic_: It's a Dell you said? you could call them and ask what sound hardware is in your machine...
[06:44] <Sebast> Breezy to Dappar  Gaix  so upgrade
[06:44] <toxic_> well, i know how to check for what sound hardware i have
[06:44] <Nisku> Hello all.
[06:44] <lekant> what i'm looking forward to is EnlightenmentXGL
[06:44] <ompaul> Sebast, did you >> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:44] <lAN^pARTY> what i should do for put my totem work
[06:44] <toxic_> Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] 
[06:45] <lekant> or at least some of hte folks from the E team, doing an XGL composit window manager
[06:45] <lAN^pARTY> lekant you now
[06:45] <GaiaX11> Sebast, try to use system rescue cd to recover you system. You can find it in distrowatch
[06:45] <FoolsRun> toxic_: alsa should handle it. Make sure you have all the appropriate alsa drivers installed
[06:45] <Sebast> well to begin with I was doing the automatic upgrade of Breezy to Dappar, but then I cancalled that.  since it was late at night.  then this morning I did.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade,  because it seemed to of suggested that I did that
[06:45] <Mortuis> Hey, I accedently halted a process.  how do I start it again?
[06:45] <fu|f|ej> hi i've just installed ubuntu for the first time, how do i check the login password for super user?
[06:45] <lekant> fg
[06:45] <lekant> mortuis: type fg
[06:46] <lekant> "foreground"
[06:46] <Mortuis> fg! Thank you, I couldn't remember it.
[06:46] <lekant> "bg" backgrounds a process
[06:46] <Mortuis> okay, thanks
[06:46] <fu|f|ej> im at the terminal window, i typed su but cant figure out the password
[06:46] <toxic_> what do i type in terminal?
[06:46] <patrick_> hey
[06:46] <lekant> fufu: it's whatever you set it to
[06:46] <ompaul> Sebast, by anychance did you have hoary on that box?
[06:46] <lekant> plus
[06:46] <lekant> su won't work
[06:46] <lekant> you have to use sudo
[06:46] <dr_willis> fu|f|ej:  use 'sudo -s
[06:46] <lekant> try "sudo -s"
[06:46] <ivoks> profoXP: i'm back
[06:46] <FoolsRun> fu|f|ej: ubuntu? there's no "root". Use sudo and type your user password when asked.
[06:46] <patrick_> does anyone know how to configre the remote desktop to 'listen' on certain ports
[06:46] <ompaul> !root
[06:46] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:46] <lekant> the "root" acct is disabled right
[06:47] <profoXP> ivoks, wb, i got suspend-to-disk working on nvidia by following a wiki
[06:47] <Sebast> I used to have Hoary on this box, but I formatted that before doing a clean install of Breezy
[06:47] <ompaul> ^^ we don't need root for anything - its not the way you do things in ubuntu
[06:47] <ivoks> profoXP: nice :) then there is wiki :)
[06:47] <cdubya> so is the firefox that's bundled with Dapper a non-usable edition like the one I had on Breezy, or is it improved?
[06:47] <FoolsRun> ubuntu does root the way MacOS does root. It's sweet.
[06:47] <profoXP> ivoks, however, i cannot see the suspend-to-ram icon, is this because it is a desktop computer ?
[06:47] <ivoks> profoXP: did you blacklisted modules?
[06:47] <der_daniel> is the xorg.conf to ubuntu the same as the XF86Config to other distris?
[06:47] <fu|f|ej> alright got it
[06:47] <fu|f|ej> thanks all
[06:47] <ompaul> help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com lots of good info
[06:47] <ivoks> profoXP: yes, but if you are sure suspend to ram works on your computer, you can enable it
[06:47] <FoolsRun> cdubya: unusable FireFox? No...
[06:48] <cdubya> heh
[06:48] <dr_willis> der_daniel:  for the most part - they sould be compatiable.
[06:48] <Sebast> it seems FIrefox and some programs have been upgraded,  but the kernel itself has not
[06:48] <cdubya> FoolsRun, yeah, I know you can use it.....
[06:48] <cdubya> but I'm not.
[06:48] <Shaezsche> will a pentium M chip work with i586?
[06:48] <usuario> carmen
[06:48] <Sebast> and when turning on it looks like Breezy
[06:48] <Sebast> and trying to boot up
[06:48] <cdubya> because it's absolutely unacceptable to me how slow it is
[06:48] <systemsos> Has anyone successfully used wine in a chroot? -> with a graphics card?
[06:48] <usuario> hi!!!
[06:48] <profoXP> ivoks, euhm, only for my wireless USR pcmcia card.. acx, because ndiswrapper works better on this card
[06:48] <FoolsRun> cdubya: that sounds more like a personal choice than a question for the help channel, then
[06:48] <ivoks> profoXP: you just have to uncomment #ACPI_SLEEP=true in /etc/default/acpi-support
[06:48] <cdubya> FoolsRun, I'm not alone in the issue
[06:48] <JimBunder> How do I apply a patch to something when Im inisde the source directory?? *****
[06:48] <profoXP> ivoks, i already uncommented that
[06:49] <ivoks> profoXP: then that's it
[06:49] <toxic_> Has anyone else experienced sound not working w/ Dapper?
[06:49] <FoolsRun> cdubya: I'm sure you're not. You could try upgrading to the latest version of FireFox. Several versions have been released since Breezy...
[06:49] <Sebast> I thought apt-get dist-upgrade would update it to Dapper, but I guess I was wrong.  and it only did some programs or something.  I don't know
[06:49] <dr_willis> toxic_:  if you 'upgraded' i advise a clean reinstall.. or check the wiki/forums
[06:49] <dr_willis> !alsa
[06:49] <chrisbudden14> does anyone use the gmail manager firefox extention and is it still working (telling you if you have unread mail)
[06:49] <ubotu> I heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[06:49] <FoolsRun> cdubya: but other than that, your option is to use a different browser.
[06:49] <cdubya> FoolsRun, that's why I use Epiphany
[06:49] <Sebast> and now I carn't even boot up UBuntu.  anyone can help?
[06:49] <FoolsRun> cdubya: congrats.
[06:49] <toxic_> !alsa
[06:50] <fu|f|ej> im new to linux, what do they mean by X session?
[06:50] <profoXP> ivoks, yea, but it doesnt work, i cant see the suspend to ram icon, i can see it on my notebook though (but its not working there, its an ati laptop)
[06:50] <GaiaX11> toxic_, does you volume button moves?
[06:50] <ompaul> Sebast, so if you do this>>  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   << without the <> do you see the word breezy there?
[06:50] <toxic_> i have made sure that there are no stupid hardware mistakes
[06:50] <Sebast> well  I carn't even boot up Ubuntu at the moment ompaul.
[06:50] <ivoks> profoXP: did you restart computer?
[06:50] <toxic_> volume is on, speakers work, connected correctly...
[06:50] <Sebast> so I carn't do that at the moment
[06:50] <profoXP> fu|f|ej, X session is a session where you are logged in into X, this is a graphical environment where you can run a desktop environment or windowmanager
[06:51] <Sebast> I guess I A
[06:51] <profoXP> ivoks, yes i did
[06:51] <Sebast> can some how mount it form a Live CD or something
[06:51] <MdSalih> is it possible to stick the contents of ubuntu live disk on a memory stick.. and use the memory stick as a live drive ?
[06:51] <toxic_> system volume is full blast..
[06:51] <ivoks> profoXP: hm...
[06:51] <Spliffster> ompaul: the gnome-session problem is resolved. reconfiguring gdm and xserver-xorg did not help (but not hurt also). by error i found out what the problelem is. in my ~/.profile i had the line "alias ls="ls --color" which prevented gnome-session to start propperly the first time. i really do not understand why gnome-session is interested in my ~/.profile (.bashrc ok, but .profile?). do you think this is an ubuntu or gnome bug ?
[06:51] <FoolsRun> toxic_: speakers on? ;)
[06:51] <fu|f|ej> ok thanks
[06:51] <ivoks> profoXP: ah... sec...
[06:51] <DarkLegacy> I want to dual-boot with Kubuntu.
[06:51] <profoXP> ivoks, ok
[06:51] <GaiaX11> toxic_, Can you move that?
[06:51] <toxic_> yea, there is nothing stupid like that
[06:51] <toxic_> can i move what?
[06:51] <GaiaX11> toxic_, up and down?
[06:51] <dr_willis> DarkLegacy:  dual boot what 2 os's ? Kubuntu and?
[06:52] <toxic_> the volume by the clock/
[06:52] <toxic_> ?
[06:52] <GaiaX11> toxic_, yes!
[06:52] <Sebast> ompaul  can you be more exact.  with help.  I am quite a Linux noob.  so you want me to stick Breezy Live CD and do something right or?
[06:52] <toxic_> yes - it goes up and down..
[06:52] <toxic_> and it isnt on mute
[06:52] <FoolsRun> toxic_: and alsa is installed?
[06:52] <ivoks> profoXP: i'm not sure... :/
[06:52] <ompaul> Sebast, if your that new I wonder what the best way for you progress is, let me think for a moment, what you want is to upgrade with least effort,
[06:52] <profoXP> ivoks, lol :)
[06:53] <toxic_> yep
[06:53] <toxic_> derek@ghost:~$ sudo apt-get install alsa
[06:53] <toxic_> Password:
[06:53] <toxic_> Reading package lists... Done
[06:53] <toxic_> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:53] <toxic_> Note, selecting alsa-base instead of alsa
[06:53] <toxic_> alsa-base is already the newest version.
[06:53] <GaiaX11> toxic_, so have a look in your permitions
[06:53] <ivoks> profoXP: there was something in gconf-editor, but i forgot what :)
[06:53] <profoXP> ivoks, thanks anyway.. i will look around..
[06:53] <dr_willis> toxic_:  normally if i play a sound in Juke or other players./. and i see the  'sound' display jumping up and down. its a sign theres a mixer muted/messed up some how.  or run the app from the shell and see if it spits out an error about opening the sound device
[06:53] <Sebast> actsaully I am not that new.  used Linux for about two years or so.  it's just I don't know loads of the commands and that.  so I still say I am noob
[06:53] <toxic_> permissions for what? alsa?
[06:53] <TheStonepedo> my google-fu is weak.  i want to find a linux app to manage recipes so i don't have to keep a deck of 3x5 cards
[06:53] <dr_willis> freshmeat.net
[06:53] <dr_willis> for all ya linux app needs. :P
[06:53] <GaiaX11> toxic_, for audio
[06:53] <dr_willis> well most of them
[06:54] <TheStonepedo> thanks dr_willis
[06:54] <MdSalih> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-6/ <-- is that dead for anyone else ?
[06:54] <NET||abuse> i have a small problem with updating here.. my proxy i think is blocking apt from accessing the repos.
[06:54] <thoreauputic> TheStonepedo: there's a Krecipe I think from memory
[06:54] <NET||abuse> but my proxy is just an in series transparrent http proxy
[06:54] <toxic_> you are going to have to tell me what to do?
[06:54] <toxic_> i dont know how to change the permissions
[06:54] <NET||abuse> now, firefox seems quite ok on the net, but apt keeps getting 407 errors
[06:54] <NoUse> MdSalih why would you want the flight cd?
[06:54] <dr_willis> TheStonepedo:  Argh! now do a Pirate!.   p^)
[06:54] <ompaul> Sebast, do you understand the concept of chroot
[06:54] <Sebast> ompaul:  without doing the thing you suggested. I think that yes the system still thinks it's Breezy and not Dappar
[06:55] <thoreauputic> !info krecipes
[06:55] <ubotu> krecipes: (cooking book for KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 844 kB, Installed size: 3076 kB
[06:55] <GaiaX11> toxic_, gedit /etc/group &
[06:55] <MdSalih> NoUse - stick it on a USB drive
[06:55] <MdSalih> play around with it
[06:55] <MdSalih> do you recommend a different release /
[06:55] <MdSalih> ?
[06:55] <GaiaX11> toxic_, see the line audio
[06:55] <Sebast> boot the Live CD open the terminal and put chroot?  ompaul
[06:55] <Agrajag> MdSalih: Dapper final has been out for days
[06:55] <ompaul> Sebast, okay lets prove that, booted with the live CD click on System Administration Disks
[06:55] <NoUse> MdSalih Dapper has been released, flight was an alpha release
[06:55] <GaiaX11> toxic_, are you there?
[06:55] <toxic_> yep
[06:55] <toxic_> i see it
[06:55] <MdSalih> 6.06
[06:55] <MdSalih> yes ?
[06:55] <ompaul> Sebast, mount the drive
[06:55] <NoUse> MdSalih yes
[06:55] <djcabz> So far so good... The upgrade from Breezy to Dapper was flawless for my little Inspiron 6000.  Other than the new kernel, anyone know exactly what makes the Dapper release different from Breezy?
[06:55] <Sebast> ok i'll boot it from the Live CD now hang on
[06:56] <byen> Guys, can someone tell me how i can use my external usb drive which mounted on breezy but not on Dapper
[06:56] <MdSalih> excellent... i'll get that
[06:56] <roler> I currently run Debian on a Dell laptop that has an Intel 945GM / 950GMA video card... Debian just recently switched to Xorg 7.0 and for the life of me, I can't get the latest drm xorg drivers to compile... Thus my video is S L O W... I've heard that ubuntu has 945GM drm modules already compiled / ready to go. Can anyone confirm this?
[06:56] <ompaul> djcabz, its got a new gnome, its got updated packages and explore and you will find things
[06:56] <Spliffster> djcabz: do you have to use the 386 kernel on your laptop ?
[06:56] <TheStonepedo> that ubotu is handy.  i should get my very own knowledgeable bot-slave
[06:56] <toxic_> I see the line 'audio' - what do i do now?
[06:56] <TheStonepedo> !info ubotu
[06:56] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[06:56] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:56] <mheath> roler, I can't confirm it, but I'm willing to bet it. Ubuntu places a huge emphasis on out-of-the-box hardware compatability.
[06:57] <Knorrie> TheStonepedo: http://svn.donarmstrong.com/blootbot/trunk/
[06:57] <GaiaX11> toxic_, are you there? In the line?
[06:57] <MdSalih> Is there a ubuntu 6.06 live CD ... or only live/install DVD combo ?
[06:57] <TheStonepedo> thanks Knorrie
[06:57] <pepinito> hi guys
[06:57] <toxic_> I see the line 'audio' - what do i do now?
[06:57] <pepinito> have a probem
[06:57] <TheStonepedo> this krecipe thing is champ
[06:57] <NoUse> MdSalih the live CD is an install CD as well
[06:57] <pepinito> mi machine doesnt boot
[06:57] <Spliffster> MdSalih: the default iso image of dapper is a live cd and the installation cd
[06:57] <roler> mheath; hmm. Maybe I should give it a try then. Do you know if it has Gnome 2.14 yet?
[06:57] <steina1> does anyone have a guide on how to get native icons in OO.o?
[06:57] <MdSalih> is it a CD or DVD
[06:57] <MdSalih> ?
[06:58] <GaiaX11> toxic_, put your username there and save the file
[06:58] <cartur25> Can I use konqueror in Ubuntu Dapper?
[06:58] <NoUse> MdSalih CD
[06:58] <djcabz> Spliffster: I'm running the 686 kernel I think - Linux myht 2.6.15-23-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 23 14:03:07 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:58] <thoreauputic> djcabz: of course
[06:58] <juantao> hello - probably been answered many times, but... ntpdate in 6.06 - anybody having troubles?
[06:58] <pepinito> I have 4 SCSI disks and the one i want to have ubuntu es the ID 5
[06:58] <toxic_> my username is there
[06:58] <MdSalih> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/release/ <-- i only see the dvd version :(
[06:58] <Knorrie> roler: yes, ubuntu dapper has gnome 2.14
[06:58] <thoreauputic> oops
[06:58] <Spliffster> steina1: if native means gnome for you, search for openoffice*gnome in synaptic or with apt-cache
[06:58] <jbroome> cartur25: check out kubuntu
[06:58] <thoreauputic> cartur25: of course
[06:58] <pepinito> then, if I unplug the other it works fine
[06:58] <mheath> roler, yep, sure does :)
[06:58] <toxic_> GaiaX11: The username is there.
[06:58] <thoreauputic> sorry djcabz ;)
[06:58] <NoUse> !tell MdSalih about dapper
[06:58] <pepinito> but if a tried to plug the other it just doesn't boot
[06:59] <roler> What is ubuntu dapper? Is that 6.06?
[06:59] <GaiaX11> toxic_, which is your sound card?
[06:59] <djcabz> ompaul: that actually is the best answer... ;)  I should explore!
[06:59] <cartur25> thoreauputic: How can I run konquerer if I'm running gnome and konquerer uses kde?
[06:59] <steina1> spliff: no, i meant native as in non-gnome, i think they are ***** awful
[06:59] <\login> i try to install ubuntu but i get a msg about the it cant use the cdrom....what to do?
[06:59] <Knorrie> roler: yes
[06:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> cartur25: install it and run it?
[06:59] <NET||abuse> I have a problem getting down the updates.. and any new packages,,,, just my proxy requires authentication... now firefox has managed to authenticate just fine, but apt is not... how can i get proxy athentication set on my command line?
[06:59] <toxic_> Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] 
[06:59] <GaiaX11> toxic_, is it on-board or off-board?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> cartur25: just install it
[06:59] <cartur25> lol k
[06:59] <toxic_> on-board
[06:59] <cartur25> Thanks guys
[06:59] <roler> ok then, I will try it. Thanks for the help... :)
[06:59] <thoreauputic> cartur25: it runs fine in gnome
[06:59] <secleinteer> hey, has any1 had trouble running 915resolution inside an xp vmware install of dapper drake?
[06:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> cartur25: GNOME and KDE are pretty much swapable at will
[06:59] <cartur25> Thanks guys - peace :)
[06:59] <ninix> Hi
[07:00] <ompaul> thoreauputic, /me does ->> on production guess whats next sudo cp -R /var/cache/apt/archives/* .
[07:00] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have you seen if there is a driver for it in ubuntu?
[07:00] <mheath> roler, glad to help. Have fun, and good luck.
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[07:00] <secleinteer> (11:59:17) (secleinteer) hey, has any1 had trouble running 915resolution inside an xp vmware install of dapper drake?
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[07:00] <secleinteer> (11:59:17) (secleinteer) hey, has any1 had trouble running 915resolution inside an xp vmware install of dapper drake?
[07:00] <toxic_> no, i havent checked
[07:00] <TheStonepedo> MdSalih: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ had CD versions when i used it
[07:00] <roler> What kind of packages does ubuntu use? .deb? .rpm or something else? Also is it easy to keep ubuntu up to date? Last questions I promise.
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[07:00] <Spliffster> djcabz: i can't tell you much aboutthis. but i have to use the 386 kernel with the "nolapic noapic" options so my laptop will boot. many laptops sill need kernel options and the ubuntu 686 does not seem to work well on some laptops. have you tried the 386 kernel and/or the various "common" (see installer grub help menu) kernel options ?
[07:00] <NoUse> !tell secleinteer about flood
[07:00] <secleinteer> (11:59:17) (secleinteer) hey, has any1 had trouble running 915resolution inside an xp vmware install of dapper drake?
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[07:00] <toxic_> but it worked with Breeezy - so i dont know why it would stop working now
[07:00] <GaiaX11> toxic_, check it then!
[07:00] <Knorrie> secleinteer: stop that
[07:00] <alainlucas> secleinteer: you've a bug...
[07:00] <secleinteer> no i dont that
[07:00] <juantao> ntp trouble 6.06 ?
[07:00] <toxic_> would i check apt-get?
[07:00] <Agrajag> MdSalih: http://www.ubuntu.com/download pick a mirror
[07:00] <ninix> anyone have a idea about this small problem: my intel wireless card 3945 worked fine after the fresh installation of dapper. but now... iwconfig has no more wireless card o_O
[07:01] <almuleon> ola
[07:01] <GaiaX11> toxic_, no.
[07:01] <Agrajag> MdSalih: the CD images are there
[07:01] <TheStonepedo> it sure would be fun to troubleshoot secleinteer's problem before kicking him
[07:01] <mheath> Give him a break. He obviously accidentally copied/pasted some bits from IRC; its hard to get used to middle-click-will-paste, and some IRC clients will autosend such large amounts.
[07:01] <Spliffster> ninix: is the kernle module loaded ? try $ sudo modprobe <insert your kernel module here>
[07:01] <thoreauputic> TheStonepedo: i didn't kick him
[07:01] <djcabz> what is considered good for a cdrom drive when the hdparm -Tt /dev/cdrom command is issued...  specifcally for the buffered timings.
[07:01] <thoreauputic> TheStonepedo: it was a gag
[07:01] <dsas> xChantalx: Could you stop spamming please.
[07:02] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have a look in volume system preferences as well
[07:02] <djcabz> Spliffster, I haven't had problems with the 686 kernel... (afaik anyway)
[07:02] <ninix> Spliffster, yes, i got ipw3945 and ndiswrapper loaded.
[07:02] <MdSalih> Agrajag - I can't seem to find a link for the ubuntu "Live" Cd ?
[07:02] <NoUse> MdSalih its called the desktop cd
[07:02] <cdubya> heh, dapper with expose....
[07:02] <cdubya> heh
[07:02] <secleinteer> has any1 tried 915resolution at all?
[07:02] <MdSalih> Oh right
[07:02] <FoolsRun> cdubya: is there such a thing?
[07:02] <toxic_> yea, nothing
[07:02] <MdSalih> thanks for that
[07:02] <Agrajag> MdSalih: there's only one CD.
[07:02] <egu> newbiequestion: how do I set the root pw?
[07:02] <toxic_> i cant find anything out of the ordinary
[07:02] <cdubya> heh, well, it looks like it's trying....
[07:02] <Spliffster> ninix: hmmm .. .a friend of mine is using it succesfully on dapper on his ibm laptop ... strange
[07:02] <GaiaX11> toxic_, see if the soud is in a good volume
[07:02] <cdubya> ;)
[07:02] <Knorrie> !tell egu about root
[07:03] <toxic_> its is turned all the way up
[07:03] <mheath> egu, sudo passwd root
[07:03] <NoUse> Agrajag there is a "desktop" and a "alternate" cd
[07:03] <Agrajag> MdSalih: You boot the liveCD and install from the desktop
[07:03] <juantao> set root password - from a terminal sudo passwd root
[07:03] <djcabz> egu: sudo passwd root
[07:03] <MarcN> I just install Dapper/server on a handy HP ProLiant DL360 g2.  The only problem was the initial install boot needed NOAPIC
[07:03] <Spliffster> quiet some chatting in here since daper was released ... eh ?
[07:03] <GaiaX11> toxic_, in preferences?
[07:03] <Agrajag> NoUse: oh, I see
[07:03] <TheStonepedo> i install that 915resolution thing b/c i have that chipset but i have no idea what it does
[07:03] <TheStonepedo> *installed
[07:03] <ninix> Spliffster, yes very strange. and it was working very well before
[07:03] <oezguer> HI, What sholud i do? my XMMS works not so good, and now i cant close it  and play it, it seems at the destop HELP :(
[07:03] <toxic_> I go to System > Prefs > Sound
[07:03] <djcabz> egu: when prompted for the first password, enter your user password, then you can update the root password...  But really you shouldn't need to do that.
[07:03] <toxic_> and there is no volume bar there
[07:04] <toxic_> only on the taskbar
[07:04] <GaiaX11> toxic_, in open volume control?
[07:04] <FoolsRun> toxic_: ahh, that's not good. Sounds like you don't have a driver to me.
[07:04] <toxic_> yea, in volume control it is turned all the way up
[07:04] <djcabz> !tell djcabz about root
[07:04] <TheStonepedo> oezguer: i'd recommend trying another player
[07:04] <egu> ok.. looking into it.. ty!
[07:04] <toxic_> where can i install this driver?
[07:04] <\login> is ubuntu a good dist. for laptops?
[07:04] <juantao> sorry to keep asking... ntp trouble 6.06 ? time is messed up in several boxes
[07:05] <oezguer> Which one? THESTONEPEDO???
[07:05] <MarcN> \login: yes it is.
[07:05] <Spliffster> TheStonepedo: the 915G* cards have an error in the rom. they do not claim to support 1440x1050 resolution. thei (in essence) causes X11 not to support that resolution. the patch fixes these information on bootup and therefore X11 is able to detect the cards resolution modes propperly.
[07:05] <egu> djcabz: so just stick to using sudo?
[07:05] <GaiaX11> toxic_, right click volume control and you will see other options. Check them
[07:05] <FoolsRun> toxic_: do a search for your sound card, check to see if you have alsa installed completley, etc.
[07:05] <TheStonepedo> beep-media-player is a newer fork of xmms.  quod libet is pretty good as a library-based thing
[07:05] <toxic_> The default sounds card is - HDA Intel
[07:05] <juantao> laptops? yes first time in 7 years... wireless networking out of the box
[07:05] <TheStonepedo> oezguer: if you like winamp's media library or foobar in windows you'd probably like quod libet
[07:05] <oezguer> how can find and download it? THESTONEPDO?
[07:05] <Knorrie> juantao: be some specific? what do you mean by 'messed up' .. etc
[07:05] <Sebast> ompaul: ok finally got the Live CD booted up.  and am in Disks Manager.  how do I mount the disc?
[07:05] <\login> i have a problem when trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, it cant use the cd. when im trying to install.. i get the install menu etc...
[07:05] <djcabz> egu: that is how I've been running for well over a year now...
[07:05] <thoreauputic> TheStonepedo: I agree - quodlibet is nice
[07:05] <MarcN> juantao: were the starting time close to accurate?
[07:06] <egu> djcabz: ok..:)
[07:06] <moparfan90> hello. i deleted windows and installed ubuntu 6.6 32bit with a ati x800. when i start it up it works then after like 20sec-2 min it will just freeze up on me
[07:06] <ompaul> Sebast, in a terminal first do this, sudo mkdir /mountpoint
[07:06] <TheStonepedo> oezguer: sudo apt-get install quodlibet
[07:06] <oezguer> THANX VERY MUCH
[07:06] <djcabz> egu: you may want to do something like sudo -s
[07:06] <moparfan90> i think its the video drivers cause ubuntu worked on my old video card
[07:06] <TheStonepedo> oezguer: please dont' use capslock like that
[07:06] <Gecko> Hello. I cannot boot dapper. It stops in the very beginning of the bootup, right after the loading of hid_core. Does anyone have any ideas?
[07:06] <Nand0> Ubuntu have Firefox 1.5.0.4 the newest version?
[07:06] <toxic_> alsa is installed completely
[07:06] <TheStonepedo> Nand0: si
[07:06] <oezguer> oki
[07:06] <djcabz> egu: that way you have a terminal session with root access.... but it all depends on your security practices.
[07:06] <juantao> Knorrie - thanks. "no ntpdate servers available"
[07:06] <thoreauputic> still nearly a thousand in here days after release - wow
[07:06] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have you checked them out?
[07:06] <toxic_> I right clicked on volume control - and went to preferences
[07:07] <TheStonepedo> toxic_: what sound card do you have?
[07:07] <Knorrie> juantao: can you paste /etc/ntp.conf to pastebin.com?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> Nand0: 1.5.03 I believe
[07:07] <moparfan90> whats the package for ati drivers?
[07:07] <feestbijtje> Any one knows how to compile cedega from a scratch?
[07:07] <FoolsRun> TheStonepedo: Intel HDA he said.
[07:07] <FoolsRun> moparfan90: fglrx
[07:08] <toxic_> When i enter the "Volume Control Prefs" - there is a drop down box for "HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer)
[07:08] <moparfan90> is that the exact name?
[07:08] <juantao> knorrie yes gimme a few.
[07:08] <FoolsRun> moparfan90: I think so. Search synaptic to be sure.
[07:08] <FoolsRun> toxic_: but "hda intel" is checked in that drop-down?
[07:08] <Knorrie> juantao: be sure first to run the ntpdate program to set the clock, and then after doing that start ntp-server
[07:08] <toxic_> there are no checkboxes to check in "Volume Control Prefs"
[07:09] <moparfan90> foolsrun, i cant.. i am using my intergrated video and xorg wont start.. so i need the exact name... i dont know how to apt-get search anything
[07:09] <Sebast> ompaul:  hummmmmmm lol I was not thinking I Just ran that command on the Ubuntu on this lap top instead of the PC.  silly me.  I assume that dosan't matter.
[07:09] <toxic_> Yea, it is the one that is selected
[07:09] <Knorrie> juantao: ntp-server ignores ntp servers if your clock is way to much out of sync with the right time
[07:09] <ompaul> Sebast, your call
[07:09] <roler> is ubuntu easy to keep updated? Do they have a package updater/manager system?
[07:09] <FoolsRun> moparfan90: try fglrx, I think that's it.
[07:09] <Sebast> ompaul: meaning?
[07:09] <Knorrie> roler: apt? ;)
[07:09] <bullium> roler, yes it's very easy
[07:09] <thoreauputic> roler: yes and yes
[07:09] <roler> oh it uses apt?
[07:09] <roler> far out!
[07:09] <moparfan90> ok ill go try it... be back if it doesnt work
[07:09] <moparfan90> thanks
[07:09] <Knorrie> roler: ubuntu is based on debian
[07:09] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have you checked tha cables?
[07:10] <juantao> Knorrie - could be... these are donated boxes from a university -
[07:10] <FoolsRun> moparfan90: and then change your xorg.conf to use "fglrx" instead of whatever it's using now.
[07:10] <ompaul> Sebast, na it should not
[07:10] <toxic_> yea, that is fine
[07:10] <toxic_> i've told you guys already
[07:10] <toxic_> it is not my hardware - it is the OS
[07:10] <spin`> roler, :)
[07:10] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have a look in the driver
[07:10] <GaiaX11> modconf
[07:10] <GaiaX11> toxic_, modconf
[07:11] <jak> sooo how do i get 3d working with xinerama, or do i have to switch off xinerama everytime i want to use a opengl app?
[07:11] <FoolsRun> toxic_: have you checked synaptic for a more appropriate sound driver?
[07:11] <GaiaX11> toxic_, and see if the driver is on
[07:11] <toxic_> checking synaptic nopw...
[07:11] <Sebast> ompaul:  ok done it on the lap top.  didn't even ask me for a password unlike the PC
[07:11] <Sebast> I mean
[07:11] <Sebast> donet
[07:11] <FoolsRun> toxic_: do what GaiaX11 is suggestng first
[07:11] <Sebast> done it on the PC.  didn't even ask me for a password unlike the lap top.  I mean
[07:12] <GaiaX11> toxic_, modconf
[07:12] <toxic_> how do i see if the driver is on?
[07:12] <Gecko> Can anyone please help me? My dapper wont boot. Breezy boots fine (kernel 2.6.12). When I run the debug kernel thing, I can see it stops booting right after loading hid_core.o. Can any help me?
[07:12] <ompaul> Sebast, so have you mounted the drive?
[07:12] <Sebast> how do I mount it?
[07:12] <FoolsRun> toxic_: type modconf
[07:12] <toxic_> bash: modconf: command not found
[07:12] <rambo3> :p
[07:12] <GaiaX11> toxic_, install it them
[07:12] <Sebast> ompaul:  how do I mount it?
[07:13] <ompaul> Sebast, to that point that we just made - System Adminstration Disks and give the name point, and do something click on enable :)
[07:13] <toxic_> i cant find anything that has "Intel" and "Sound" in it
[07:13] <toxic_> Synaptic
[07:13] <Knorrie> juantao: and be sure your firewall doesn't block udp traffic from src port 123 out and established traffic in
[07:13] <GaiaX11> toxic_, install it then :-)
[07:13] <rambo3> toxic_ intelx80 driver ?
[07:13] <ompaul> Sebast, if you can't make this visible with the information you need to actually need to reinstall as the next parts are not trivial (no not at all easy)
[07:14] <oezguer> Thestonepedo: how can i full uninstall quod libet? sudo apt-get uninstall quodlibet? so=
[07:14] <toxic_> i dont know what i am looking for in modconf
[07:14] <jak> oezguer: almost, replace uninstall with remove
[07:14] <ompaul> that is it
[07:14] <reduz> modconf kind of ignores my stuff in ubuntu
[07:15] <GaiaX11> toxic_, sound drivers
[07:15] <oezguer> how? sudo apt-get remove  so?
[07:15] <jak> oezguer: sudo apt-get remove packagenamehere
[07:15] <Sebast> ompaul:  I don't want to format and re install Ubuntu
[07:15] <toxic_> ok, i found "kernal/sound/drivers/"
[07:16] <toxic_> i dont know how to use "modconf"
[07:16] <ompaul> Sebast, not wanting to and having to are two different things
[07:16] <Ron_o> shouldn't this work for folks: get the configuration for hardware from a liveCD and the approximate configuration should work on your on OS?
[07:16] <rambo3> never tested modconf owulent sudo lshw -C sound give more info
[07:16] <Gecko> What has changed between ubuntu breezy default kernel and ubuntu dapper default kernel since the latter wont boot on my sys?
[07:16] <Sebast> ompaul:  anyway as I was saying  I can type where it says Access Path is that what I want?
[07:16] <GaiaX11> oezguer, dpkg  --purge packagename
[07:16] <Sebast> if so what do I put?
[07:17] <djcabz> is anyone using the 'xchat-gnome' package?  Can you say whether it is "better" than the xchat-common package...
[07:17] <jak> how do i get 3d working with xinerama, or do i have to switch off xinerama everytime i want to use a opengl app?
[07:17] <oezguer> thanx  GaixaX11:  sudo apt-get dpkg -- quodlipet   right?
[07:17] <ompaul> Sebast, question is the desktop a ubuntu box?
[07:17] <Satano> hello everyone
[07:17] <Khamael> how do I get subtitles with .mkv files in mplayer?
[07:17] <NET||abuse> hey all, so dapper supports xgl perhaps?? how do i get this running?? :)
[07:17] <Sebast> ompaul:  The PC has Ubuntu and XP on it
[07:17] <ompaul> !xgl
[07:17] <ubotu> I guess xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:17] <GaiaX11> oezguer, yup!
[07:18] <NET||abuse> thanks omgpaul
[07:18] <ompaul> Sebast, so you can move data to the pc
[07:18] <ricardo> s
[07:18] <nomego_> Hmm I just installed ubuntu onto a laptop with built-in winbond wireless card.. anybody know where to get info on how to get that one to work? with ndiswrapper or whatever?
[07:18] <Satano> I cannot connect to the internet from ubuntu (Dapper Drake) ... can anybady helo me?
[07:18] <Sebast> ompaul:  move data to the PC what you mean?
[07:18] <GaiaX11> oezguer, no
[07:18] <Sebast> ompaul:  move data to XP you mean?
[07:18] <oezguer> how?
[07:18] <cdubya> oezguer, sudo apt-get install quodlibet
[07:18] <mumbles> dose anyone know how you run dircproxey ?
[07:19] <Knorrie> cdubya: oezguer wants to remove
[07:19] <cdubya> ah
[07:19] <ompaul> Sebast, if you need to save it you can do it to the ubuntu box or the xp one
[07:19] <oezguer> no no i just wanna COMPLETEY uninstall
[07:19] <LiteWait> With 6.06 is ndiswrapper still available?  I can find it using the package manager.
[07:19] <Knorrie> oezguer: lol -> apt-get remove --purge <packagename>
[07:19] <Scorpmoon> uhm, why does London come up as "GMT+1" during installation?
[07:19] <LiteWait> s/can/can't/
[07:19] <GaiaX11> oezguer, no. dpkg --purge packagename
[07:19] <cdubya> heh
[07:19] <jak> oezguer: then this will do "sudo apt-get remove --purge quodlibet"
[07:19] <Knorrie> oezguer: the dpkg --purge does the same
[07:20] <thoreauputic> oezguer: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get remove --purge quodlibet
[07:20] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have you found your driver?
[07:20] <GaiaX11> in modconf?
[07:20] <oezguer> i did it Than you very much!!
[07:20] <toxic_> GaiaX11: I said that I dont know how to use modconf
[07:20] <mr_clark> Is Nagios 2.4 available in Ubuntu?
[07:20] <ompaul> Sebast, so have you anything important on the laptop (and I take it that is where the o/s is that is having problems)
[07:21] <Scorpmoon> why why oh why does London come up as GMT+1 during installation?
[07:21] <Scorpmoon> copenhagen is GMT+2
[07:21] <Scorpmoon> you guys live in another time?
[07:21] <Sebast> ompaul:  infact now I am also having problems with XP.  whilst trying to play my game.  yeah blue screen of death so on,  but that's another story
[07:21] <ompaul> Scorpmoon, BST = GMS+1
[07:22] <Scorpmoon> but london is not greenwich mean time?
[07:22] <ompaul> Sebast, reinstall the that box and get away from the laptop - install windows first and then add
[07:22] <Anchoito21> anyone knows how install a soundcard crystal CX4235 in ubuntu?
[07:22] <ompaul> Scorpmoon, not in the British Summer Time
[07:22] <GaiaX11> toxic_, sudo modconf
[07:22] <ompaul> @utc
[07:22] <jak> the clocks change!
[07:22] <ompaul> @now utc
[07:22] <thoreauputic> Scorpmoon: they claim to have a summer ;-)
[07:22] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 06 2006, 17:23:00
[07:23] <ompaul> @now london
[07:23] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/London: June 06 2006, 18:23:07
[07:23] <GaiaX11> toxic_, select kernel/sound/pci
[07:23] <Scorpmoon> LOL, it's STILL called GMT+1 you numbwits!
[07:23] <jak> thoreauputic: hey! the sun is out right now!
[07:23] <pools_> does anybody know how to make konquerer the default file browser in gnome in 6.06 ?
[07:23] <toxic_> GaiaX11: ok
[07:23] <rambo3> Anchoito21, whos making the card ?
[07:23] <Selaiah> When I try to activate my Wlan Card with "sudo ifup ra0" I get this error message: "Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... set (8BE2): Invalid argument Failed to bring up ra0." Does anyone know what might be causing this and what can be done to get rid of it?
[07:23] <ompaul> thoreauputic, I will have you know road temp in Dublin today was 36
[07:23] <GaiaX11> toxic_, there are two intel drivers there
[07:23] <thoreauputic> jak: I bet it's oh, over 2o degrees C too :)
[07:23] <codecaine> whats a recommended vnc server or ubuntu
[07:23] <jak> thoreauputic: 26!
[07:23] <steina1> pools: gnome-default-applications-properties
[07:23] <thoreauputic> ompaul: in January here it hit 45 degrees
[07:23] <GaiaX11> toxic_, if it has a "-", so it is not on
[07:23] <toxic_> GaiaX11: which intel do i choose?
[07:24] <rikai> codecaine: the one that comes with it.
[07:24] <rambo3> Selaiah, what does sudo dhclint ra0 say?
[07:24] <cdubya> pools_, or System > Administration > Preferred Applications
[07:24] <thoreauputic> ompaul: admittedly the hottest for 70 years though ;)
[07:24] <rambo3> seliah dhclinet
[07:24] <rongenre> FoolsRun so i've booted ubuntu again
[07:24] <GaiaX11> toxic_, see your chepset
[07:24] <ompaul> thoreauputic, 26 oC atm and its 6:34
[07:24] <codecaine> vino?
[07:24] <GaiaX11> toxic_, see your chipset
[07:24] <pools_> thanks ill try it later
[07:24] <thoreauputic> ompaul: pleasnatly warm then
[07:24] <rikai> codecaine: indeed.
[07:24] <cdubya> err, System > Preferences > Preferred Applications :)
[07:24] <FoolsRun> rongenre: and you're looking at your networking preferences?
[07:24] <chamo> anyone got a way to resolve the fglrx (ATI Cards) problem under Dapper ?
[07:24] <rongenre> FoolsRun yeah, "network settings"
[07:24] <toxic_> GaiaX11: i just installed the first one
[07:24] <codecaine> I type vino in the terminal nothing came up
[07:24] <chamo> it's a mess
[07:24] <codecaine> and tried man on it
[07:25] <ompaul> thoreauputic, :-)
[07:25] <rongenre> FoolsRun I gave it my ssid, I don't have wep turned on
[07:25] <toxic_> GaiaX11: im going to do a restart
[07:25] <rikai> codecaine: err, its in the gui, under "remote desktop"
[07:25] <thoreauputic> codecaine: /usr/lib/vino-server I think
[07:25] <rongenre> it did some stuff [I think running dhcp client]  for a while, was unable to get an ip address
[07:25] <codecaine> ty
[07:25] <GaiaX11> toxic_, ok!
[07:25] <jak> how do i get 3d working with xinerama, or do i have to switch off xinerama everytime i want to use a opengl app?
[07:25] <steev> hey all, im a Gentoo developer, who finally installed Ubuntu on a spare (work) laptop - aside from kernel-source-2.6.15, how can i pull in just the patches that Debian has applied?
[07:25] <FoolsRun> rongenre: make sure "dhcp" is checked and not "static ip"
[07:25] <rongenre> done
[07:25] <steev> s/Debian/Ubuntu
[07:25] <Nisku> WIll dapper get Gnome 2.16 when it is released or will that go into the next version of Ubuntu?
[07:25] <thoreauputic> /usr/lib/vino/vino-server  actually
[07:25] <FoolsRun> rongenre: and it still doesn't work?
[07:25] <cdubya> well, totem doesn't work for me in dapper
[07:26] <thoreauputic> crazy place for vino to live...
[07:26] <rongenre> foolsrun, yes
[07:26] <rongenre> foolsrun, doesn't work
[07:26] <jak> steev: add the debian repositories. although thats probably a bad idea.
[07:26] <FoolsRun> hey everyone, what's the ubuntu equivilent of ipconfig?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> jak: a VERY bad idea
[07:26] <rongenre> foolsrun: iwconfig shows eth0.
[07:26] <rongenre> ifconfig
[07:26] <FoolsRun> hehe
[07:26] <thoreauputic> FoolsRun:  ifconfig
[07:26] <jak> FoolsRun: ifconfig
[07:26] <FoolsRun> alrighty then
[07:26] <rikai> Nisku: dapper is already out. check packages.ubuntu.com to see what version of gnome is included.
[07:26] <Selaiah> rambo3: I haven't tried that. (aint running dhcp), shall i boot my linux and check? or is it not relevant if i dont have dhcp?
[07:27] <steev> jak: i just want the patches themselves - i tried looking on packages.ubuntu.com, but the patch there definitely didn't list what i am looking for
[07:27] <FoolsRun> rongenre: is wifi0 telling you it's active in the preferences window?
[07:27] <__filip_> Why cant i install linux-headers-2.6.15-22-386 ?
[07:27] <moparfan90> hello again.... i have 6.6 installed and when im trying my login name the letters turn blue and red and the screen freezes up. i have a ati x800 and i have the ati control center install. any suggestions?
[07:27] <jak> Nisku: 2.14.1 gnome is runing in my dapper
[07:27] <thoreauputic> !ati
[07:27] <ubotu> ati is, like, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:27] <rongenre> foolsrun:  I see "wireless connection" on eth0, no wifi0
[07:27] <oezguer> Can anyone give me  some links for nice new games and programms for ubuntu ?for download
[07:27] <rambo3> Selaiah, if you aint useing dhclient dont , use forums to ceach ralink howto
[07:27] <FoolsRun> rongenre: that's weird...
[07:28] <oezguer> i looked at internet but no so good names
[07:28] <oezguer> found
[07:28] <FoolsRun> rongenre: go into the preferences again and disable eth0
[07:28] <felipe__> Hello, does anyone know if there is a GnuPG plugin for Evolution?
[07:28] <thoreauputic> !tell oezguer about docs
[07:28] <rongenre> foolsrun: done
[07:28] <Nisku> jak:  True but the devel version of Gnome due in Sept is 2.15 (to be 2.16) .  I just wonder if an upgrade will be available to Dapper or will it be in the next Ubuntu release.
[07:28] <Selaiah> rambo3: I've used the ralink howto (from the wiki)
[07:28] <cdubya> tRSS, yup
[07:28] <FoolsRun> rongenre: double check that wifi0 is reporting as active in the preferences.
[07:28] <oezguer> Thoreapuctic: documents games nice programs but new and popular
[07:29] <toxic_> GaiaX11: still no sound... :(
[07:29] <rongenre> wifi0 doesn't show up at all
[07:29] <steev> jak: specifically, im looking for the prism54_softmac stuff
[07:29] <rambo3> Selaiah, ok , mine(Stone123) or thread posters ?
[07:29] <tRSS> my GL screensavers aren't working. any ideas about how I can fix it?
[07:29] <jak> Nisku: seeing as the next ubuntu release shold be in october i would guess that it would be in the next release
[07:29] <Scorpmoon> aaaaaaargh i don't get it... system clock in top-left says 19:29, but timezone dialog box says 21:29 (GMT+2)
[07:29] <Selaiah> rambo3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500?action=show&redirect=Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[07:30] <Scorpmoon> DO I RESET 21:29 TO 19:29 OR WHAT DO I DO?
[07:30] <Selaiah> thats the one i used
[07:30] <FoolsRun> rongenre: are you sure you have a driver for your wifi card?
[07:30] <thoreauputic> !CAPS
[07:30] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[07:30] <oezguer> Thoreauputic: u know good web sites for ubuntu programs and games?
[07:30] <__filip_> What kernel is using in Dapper?
[07:30] <oezguer> Thoreauputic: to download
[07:30] <rongenre> foolsrun:  lsmod | grep orinoco brings up orinoco_cs, orinoco and hostap_cs
[07:30] <rambo3> Selaiah, that was for breezy are you using dapper?
[07:30] <thoreauputic> oezguer: open the app add/remove menu and have a look
[07:31] <MarcN> oezguer: Use synaptic or apt-get on the command line to find new software to install.
[07:31] <Scorpmoon> hey, if someone could just post an install doc somewhere, maybe I wouldnt have to shout
[07:31] <Selaiah> Yeah Rambo3
[07:31] <Satano> Hello. I have D-Com V3 router connected to 3Com 3C900 ethernet card. Router IP is 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0
[07:31] <Satano> I am not able to connect to internet ... I even can't ping the router. Can anybody help me what shoul I set up?
[07:31] <oezguer> i looked there but i m looking new and good things
[07:31] <FoolsRun> rongenre: can you modprobe them?
[07:31] <Sebast> 1
[07:31] <Sebast> 2
[07:31] <Sebast> 3
[07:31] <thoreauputic> oezguer: why download when you have 17 000 programs to choose from ?
[07:31] <rongenre> foolsrun oh  they're loaded... when i booted
[07:31] <thoreauputic> !enter
[07:31] <oezguer> wowwww
[07:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:31] <Admiral> is the security level "user" going to force my users to log in on samba
[07:31] <JimBunder> jhunt@jhunt-linux:/usr/games/wine-0.9.14/wine-0.9.14~winehq1~ubuntu~6.06$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
[07:31] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: source package is wine
[07:31] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 0.9.14~winehq1~ubuntu~6.06-1
[07:31] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Scott Ritchie <scott@open-vote.org>
[07:31] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture i386
[07:31] <RandolphCarter> Admiral: you need to run 'sudo smbpasswd *username*'
[07:31] <JimBunder> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: per-package paragraph 5 in control info file is missing Package line
[07:32] <thoreauputic> !tell oezguer about repos
[07:32] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.
[07:32] <FoolsRun> rongenre: I guess it could be identifying as eth0... do you have wired card in there, too?
[07:32] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: (Use -d flag to override.)
[07:32] <jak> dont pasteYOUR SHIT IN HERE
[07:32] <JimBunder> What did I do wrong?
[07:32] <rongenre> foolsrun: no, no wired card
[07:32] <Admiral> JimBunder: paste bin
[07:32] <thoreauputic> JimBunder: never do that again
[07:32] <Sebast> abcdefg  heh time to get out here now I think before I decide to flood the channel and get booted :d
[07:32] <oezguer> Thoreauputic: but games are simple, i want with nice grafics and so
[07:32] <rambo3> Selaiah, thats wrong for ralink use this one for dapper : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132980&highlight=rt61
[07:32] <thoreauputic> !games
[07:32] <ubotu> I heard games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[07:32] <FoolsRun> rongenre: I guess eth0 is your wireless card then, but why is it identifying as two different devices?
[07:32] <nf4> Hello I was wondering if there were any bad results from running nvidia settings under 6.06 the guide for the nvidia drivers said not to install them as they would remove the  drivers well i have the drivers install and i also install a system info tool that seemed to come wth nvidia settings
[07:32] <nf4> i dont know if that is a bad thing or not
[07:32] <rongenre> foolsrun: it only shows up as eth0
[07:32] <grogoreo> join #wacom
[07:32] <Selaiah> rambo3, thanks a ton ;) I shall try that
[07:32] <keherman> Where can I print out the free Official Ubuntu Book chapters?
[07:32] <grogoreo> hi
[07:33] <JimBunder> sorry :(
[07:33] <oezguer> ubotu thanx , and thanx for all friends
[07:33] <ubotu> oezguer: sure thing
[07:33] <grogoreo> I'm using a Wacom Graphire4 tablet with GIMP and I have enabled it, but for some reason the crosshair for the brush is offsetted to the actual System cursor. Is there a reason for this?
[07:33] <Admiral> RandolphCarter: no. i want my users to log in when they want to get files
[07:33] <Admiral> how can i do that with samba
[07:33] <oezguer> thanx i m looking now
[07:33] <thoreauputic> JimBunder: the channel is busy enough without floods :)
[07:33] <FoolsRun> and eth0 is configured properly, the correct ssid and dhcp settings... and ifconfig shows nothing.
[07:33] <rambo3> Selaiah, read the thread before starting you can use scrupt for dhcp if you enble it that i posted at the back of the thread , auto cinfig
[07:33] <rongenre> foolsrun: i'm tempted to put in a wired card though and see if an apt-get will fix things
[07:33] <Admiral> i changed the security level to user
[07:33] <rongenre> foolsrun: no, eth0 shows up in ifconfig
[07:33] <rongenre> foolsrun: just no ip address
[07:34] <Selaiah> rambo3: I'm using a rt2500 and not a rt61 tho, is it the same for rt2500 then?
[07:34] <RandolphCarter> Admiral: if you're running Samba on the box, you need to run 'smbpasswd' for each user you want to access it remotely
[07:34] <RandolphCarter> Admiral: then they can login and access their home directory
[07:34] <Admiral> yea i did that
[07:34] <FoolsRun> ubuntu doesn't ship with a wifi sniffer app does it?
[07:34] <rambo3> Selaiah, what card do yo have?
[07:34] <Admiral> but user level is the security level to use. if i use the one under that, it doesnt require a password
[07:35] <Selaiah> Linksys WMP54G (using the Ralink RT2500 chip)
[07:35] <thoreauputic> !info aircrack
[07:35] <ubotu> aircrack: (wireless WEP cracker), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 108 kB
[07:35] <thoreauputic> FoolsRun: use it responsibly if you install it :)
[07:35] <jaro> can anybody help me to convert .tgz into .png , right ?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> jaro: erm, those are different things
[07:36] <toxic_> GaiaX11: hellllllllooooo
[07:36] <keherman> Where can I print out the free Official Ubuntu Book chapters?
[07:36] <jak> jaro: lol, convert a compressed folder to a picture?
[07:36] <FoolsRun> rongenre: you might try that, if you can get it installed, to see if your card will see networks
[07:36] <thoreauputic> jaro: is the tgz a compressed png?
[07:36] <Loki|muh> hi, I have a problem with my locales... locales-gen produces no locales and dpkg-reconfigure locales does nothing execpt showing my timezone: http://sial.org/pbot/17611
[07:36] <rongenre> foolsrun:  i'll try that, this is frustrating though :(
[07:36] <Selaiah> rambo3: (dunno if my last msg came through) - I'm using a Linksys WMP54G (PCI Card), which uses the Ralink RT2500 chip.
[07:37] <FoolsRun> rongenre: I can imagine. My wifi card worked just fine after configuring it.
[07:37] <FoolsRun> after configuring my network settings that is
[07:37] <errpast2> trying to install a perl module (NET::IRC).  can't find a package via apt-cache search
[07:37] <rongenre> foolsrun: oh mine too, i've been running debian variants on this box since 2003
[07:37] <errpast2> >cpan install NET::IRC gives me lot's of make test and make install errors that are beyond my knowlege to fix
[07:37] <MarcN> errpast2: apt-cache search irc perl       will turn up libnet-irc-perl
[07:37] <FoolsRun> But dapper broke it. Strange. your other guess about running an apt-get might be the answer, too
[07:38] <Loki|muh> even if I fill /etc/locale.gen with data locale-gen does nothing :(
[07:38] <ganon> pues parece que ya se soluciono
[07:38] <ganon> :)
[07:38] <rambo3> Selaiah, ok , you did download drivers and configured /etc/wireless dat file?
[07:39] <nf4> dose any one have nvidia settings installed on 6.06 with out removeing the drivers?
[07:39] <errpast2> MarcW  thx.  I'm not at that machine now.  Will this include that NET::IRC module?
[07:39] <idefix_> I have a link and I'd like it in my menu, why can't I just drag and drop it?
[07:39] <Selaiah> rambo3: No i thought i wouldnt have tho. A rt2500 driver came with ubuntu and it was detected as such
[07:39] <rongenre> foolrun: yeah, we'll see.. i just plugged in my wired card and it picked things up immediately
[07:39] <idefix_> after using add appl
[07:39] <thoreauputic> idefix_: use the menu editor
[07:40] <idefix_> thoreauputic, is that the same as application adding?
[07:40] <thoreauputic> idefix_: no
[07:40] <egu> atm I'm using the included Gaim IRC client in Ubuntu, but is there any other recommended clients?
[07:40] <Morrowyn> mroning
[07:40] <leku> !xgl
[07:40] <thoreauputic> idefix_: it's a separate program
[07:40] <FoolsRun> idefix_: adding an app should have added it to your menu automatically
[07:40] <czer323> !nvidia
[07:40] <ubotu> well, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:40] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[07:40] <rongenre> !orinoco
[07:40] <ubotu> rongenre: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:40] <rongenre> feh ;-)
[07:40] <thoreauputic> FoolsRun: not in every case, unfortunately
[07:40] <idefix_> FoolsRun, yes but I cannot add it, the search with appl. add. doesn't result in anything
[07:41] <czer323> egu> i'm trying to find a better client myself right now.  Let me know if you find something good.  xchat-gnome looks pretty, but it's not nearly as good as mIRC was.
[07:41] <paul_> How do you get dapper to play dvd ?
[07:41] <thoreauputic> idefix_: what did you install ?
[07:41] <idefix_> oh, it's called CGoban
[07:41] <idefix_> there's a link on my desktop, everything works fine
[07:41] <thoreauputic> idefix_: did you install from the repositories?
[07:41] <idefix_> no, with a shell script
[07:42] <FoolsRun> eep
[07:42] <thoreauputic> idefix_: that's the problem
[07:42] <steina1> paul_:search google for libdvdcss2 for ubuntu/debian
[07:42] <rambo3> Selaiah, ok then network-manager should fix that
[07:42] <stevejesus> longtime no chat guys
[07:42] <stevejesus> how is everyone
[07:42] <thoreauputic> idefix_: the system doesn't know it exists
[07:42] <thoreauputic> idefix_: add it with menu editor
[07:42] <paul_> Oh cool so basically its the same as in breezy more or less.
[07:42] <Morrowyn> paul, install libdvdread3
[07:42] <Maerksi> hello :)
[07:42] <stevejesus> looking for a text-mode bit torrent client.  can anyone direct me towards a good one?
[07:42] <Maerksi> I'm quitting windows and will install ubuntu soon
[07:43] <jak> how do i get 3d working with xinerama, or do i have to switch off xinerama everytime i want to use a opengl app?
[07:43] <Maerksi> please tell me, how many partitions are recommended?
[07:43] <Maerksi> I mean, /, usr and swap ?
[07:43] <Selaiah> rambo3: Yeah I can activate the card with the network manager. (although when i type sudo ifup ra0 I get the error still and the card shows as inactive in network manager again). Anyhow, its not connecting either way to my WPA2 encrypted network =(
[07:43] <thoreauputic> idefix_: check the properties of your desktop link and use that command in the menu editor
[07:43] <Maerksi> or I, usr, swap and home ?
[07:43] <stevejesus> Maerksi, / and swap.  installer will do it for you
[07:43] <Maerksi> :)
[07:44] <idefix_> thoreauputic, where's the menu editor?
[07:44] <stevejesus> Maerksi, i do /, home, swap
[07:44] <thoreauputic> idefix_: system tools, from memory
[07:44] <Maerksi> stevejesus but when reinstalling, won't I loose everything? Should I create at least a /home ?
[07:44] <Maerksi> ah yes
[07:44] <Maerksi> :)
[07:44] <Maerksi> thats it
[07:44] <jak> Applications -> Accessories -> Alacarte Menu Editor....
[07:44] <rambo3> Selaiah, i would try to configure it with iwconfig then
[07:44] <czer323> stevejesus> I believe bittornado should already be installed on 6.06 as aprt of the base.
[07:44] <stevejesus> Maerksi, i have a seperate drive for home, that i carry with me always.
[07:45] <oezguer> Ubotu: are u there? i found a game ; street fighter  but under Debian, i have ubuntu, is it ok ? to install and play :)
[07:45] <ubotu> oezguer: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[07:45] <Maerksi> that means that I will keep my progs or my files on /home ?
[07:45] <stevejesus> Maerksi, you can always tar up your home and then extract it after you reinstall to the desired mount pint
[07:45] <thoreauputic> oezguer: ubotu is a bot :)
[07:45] <Selaiah> rambo3, any hints on where i could read up on how to do that?
[07:45] <czer323> !ubotu
[07:45] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[07:45] <kung> !mouse
[07:45] <ubotu> it has been said that mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev Installing extra cursor themes can be done easily with gcursor
[07:45] <oezguer> aa ok :))
[07:45] <rambo3> !iwconfig
[07:45] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rambo3
[07:45] <Maerksi> I see :)
[07:45] <idefix_> thoreauputic, I use ubuntu, there's only system prefs and admin
[07:45] <oezguer> i m too stupid :)))
[07:45] <stevejesus> czer323, well im not familiar with it.  i just did a apt-get bittornado, but i cant seem to find the executable
[07:45] <czer323> lol ;)
[07:46] <daxxar> When is /etc/security/limits.conf read by the system?
[07:46] <kung> my stupid mouse hangs once in a while since a few days, I didn't change anything, except installing current dapper updates
[07:46] <stevejesus> czer323, i dont see any reason why apt wouldnt put it in my path
[07:46] <thoreauputic> idefix_: depends on if you upgraded or installed - my laptop has the menu editor under system tools
[07:46] <kung> any ideas?
[07:46] <Maerksi> but /home stores the users files (like suppose .doc stuff) or the whole apps (like word.exe) - just an example
[07:46] <Linuturk> anyone know of a good, centrally managed time clock software?
[07:46] <Maerksi> user files only I suppose?
[07:46] <thoreauputic> idefix_: look under Accessories or Sytem
[07:46] <thoreauputic> *system
[07:46] <oezguer> Thoreauputic: a game for debian , can i play it at ubuntu?
[07:47] <rambo3> Selaiah, sudo iwconfig ra0 (press tab) . there is a big readme  that comes with drivers http://www.ralinktech.com/drivers/Linux/RT2500-Linux-STA-1.4.6.4.tar.gz
[07:47] <thoreauputic> idefix_: and I have dapper on all my machines now :)
[07:47] <czer323> oezguer> typically yes.  ubuntu is based on debian.
[07:47] <oezguer> super Special Thanx
[07:47] <thoreauputic> oezguer: installing debian packages is not a good idea
[07:47] <stevejesus> Maerksi, yes, apps are generally installed in / somewhere and then symlinked to your path.  unless you decide to install something in /home.  or if you are installing usung klik
[07:47] <thoreauputic> czer323: debian packages are not always binary compatible
[07:47] <oezguer> aa ok,
[07:47] <DustyDingo> hi
[07:48] <Maerksi> so home stores your documents? like videos, pictures, openoffice docs, etc ?
[07:48] <DustyDingo> how can i start nfslock?
[07:48] <Selaiah> rambo3: I'll try that readme then, thanks
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Maerksi: right
[07:48] <Maerksi> :)
[07:48] <Maerksi> thanx
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Maerksi: in fact all user files
[07:48] <idefix_> thoreauputic, where can I find the icon? what extension does it have?
[07:48] <czer323> toreauputic> i'll keep that in mind next time.
[07:48] <stevejesus> Maerksi, what ever you wants to put there man.  look at it like c:/documents and settings in windows, which is where you my documents, my pictures are etc...
[07:48] <nf4> well mostly i was wonding why the guide claims that I cant have both nvidia settings and nvidia drivers installed  I seem to have both running just fine
[07:48] <Maerksi> also, I've heard that kubuntu has a better support for bluetooth than ubuntu, is this true?
[07:48] <jak> is ti possible to have direct rendering enabled with xinerama?
[07:49] <stevejesus> Maerksi, i have no experience with bluetooth devices
[07:49] <nf4> under 6.06 the guide isnt clear about that
[07:49] <XVampireX> Is there any program like Katapult on gnome/ubuntu ?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> idefix_:  dpkg -L <packagename> | grep .png  <-- but that only works for packages and ones with png icons
[07:49] <Maerksi> I see :)
[07:49] <stevejesus> Maerksi, i am sure the support is similiar as they both use the same obex drivers
[07:49] <giordano> oi
[07:49] <giordano> alguem aor.
[07:49] <Maerksi> :)
[07:49] <ompaul> !es
[07:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:49] <thoreauputic> idefix_: if you installed some 3rd party thing the icon is usually in the dir it installed to
[07:49] <giordano> no meskk
[07:49] <giordano> e
[07:49] <giordano> s
[07:49] <giordano> exla
[07:49] <mshiltonj> Two questions about multi-media: Rythmbox doesn't auto-play playlists when clicked from a browser. and Totem doesn't play wmv files (Totem could not play 'fd://0')
[07:50] <giordano> #300-03          9993 3i23i02   cadq
[07:50] <Steff_breezy> hello, I have bought a new graphic card, the old one has an nvidia ti 4200 chip, the new one is a nvidia 6600 card. I use the standard generic nvidia driver. Can I just put in the new card without having to change the driver?
[07:50] <giordano> gi=
[07:50] <mshiltonj> Is there a way around either of these two issues?
[07:50] <stevejesus> Maerksi, use mplayer
[07:50] <Maerksi> mplayer ?
[07:50] <XVampireX> Does anyone know if there's a program like katapult for gnome/ubuntu ?
[07:50] <stevejesus> Maerksi, mplayer plays nearly everything.  it is also a great browser plugin.  with it you can even play quicktime hd!
[07:51] <stevejesus> Maerksi, also, amarok makes a great jukebox feature wise.
[07:51] <Maerksi> yes but I was refering to bluetooth stuff. are you confusing me with other user? :D
[07:51] <Maerksi> ah you tried to reach mshiltonj ?
[07:51] <Maerksi> :)
[07:51] <stevejesus> Maerksi, haha
[07:51] <stevejesus> Maerksi, yes i was talking to mshiltonj.  haha
[07:51] <mshiltonj> Maerksi: pardon?
[07:51] <mshiltonj> oh.
[07:52] <Scorpmoon> is it recommended to use the automatic partitioning, and "erase disc" when installing?
[07:52] <Maerksi> mshiltonj steve just gave your answer to me by mistake. use mplayer :)
[07:52] <stevejesus> mshilton, i was answering your multimedia questions, but directing them at Maerski
[07:52] <Scorpmoon> it suggests one big partition  ext3 and one smaller swap
[07:52] <Steff_breezy> hello, I have bought a new graphic card, the old one has an nvidia ti 4200 chip, the new one is a nvidia 6600 card. I use the standard generic nvidia driver. Can I just put in the new card without having to change the driver?
[07:52] <mshiltonj> I may switch to mplayer if totem doesn't work. my initial hope is to stick with the defaults that easyubuntu set up for me.
[07:53] <moparfan90> is there a way on startup not to load xorg? like a key or something?
[07:53] <chavo> Steff_breezy, yes it should work
[07:53] <stevejesus> mshiltonj, i highly recomend mplayer, as the videos and content will stick in your browser where they go and it always work.  it also plays nearly everything.
[07:53] <jak> moparfan90: chmod -x the init script
[07:53] <Steff_breezy> chavo, fine, are you quite sure about it?
[07:54] <stevejesus> mshiltonj, the ubuntu defaults can be quite cumbersome at times
[07:54] <mshiltonj> stevejesus: tnx for the info.
[07:54] <chavo> Steff_breezy, yup
[07:54] <troytroy> hey when u banned from a server by ip how do u overcome that?
[07:54] <idefix_> thoreauputic, ok it wasn't there but I created it everything works now, thx
[07:54] <moparfan90> jak, i cant edit anything.... xorg is messed up.. and it freeze alot.. i need like a key that default that will bring me to a console
[07:54] <Steff_breezy> chavo, ok, thx,
[07:54] <Steff_breezy> cu
[07:55] <thoreauputic> idefix_: you're welcome
[07:55] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:55] <stevejesus> so bittornado is a text mode client?  thats what i need.  i have apt-ed it but i cant seem to find the executable...
[07:55] <SAM_theman> yo people
[07:55] <jak> moparfan90: there should be a Recovery option in GRUB for things like that
[07:55] <SAM_theman> Does Ubuntu 6.06 support my 3653 printer from hp
[07:55] <idefix_> thoreauputic, wait I get "Cannot launch entry, Details: Failed to execute child process "/home/vincent/Desktop/CGoban" (No such file or directory)
[07:56] <thoreauputic> idefix_: then you have the path wrong
[07:56] <moparfan90> o right.... but grub goes past in less then 1 sec.. i dont know if it even loads
[07:56] <Steff_breezy> which one is the best and easiest to use edonkey app?
[07:56] <Stormx2> !beagle
[07:56] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Stormx2
[07:56] <stevejesus> SAM_theman, it should.  nearly any hp printer will work
[07:56] <Stormx2> Damn
[07:56] <thoreauputic> idefix_: check that it points at the executable
[07:56] <moparfan90> i know ctrl + alt+ backspace restarts xorg.. is there a key to close it?
[07:56] <systemerror_> i have a big problem!!!  if i start a program who needs glx then always comes a msg "wait event returned -16" what could it be??  please help me
[07:56] <stevejesus> alright, back to google.  i really need a function small foot-print bt client
[07:56] <stevejesus> can anyone direct me?
[07:56] <Hoxzer> is there any startup script in ubuntu?
[07:56] <idefix_> thoreauputic, ok it works now I redirected it directly to the file in the dir instead of the link on my desktop
[07:56] <thoreauputic> idefix_: and check for case sensitivity ( guessing)
[07:56] <SAM_theman> well this one didn't work on 5.10 either 6.06 and a brand new one
[07:56] <czer323> stevejesus> I dunno if you figured it out, but I just found that bittornado uses the comands bt*
[07:57] <SAM_theman> my Old man got it for me
[07:57] <thoreauputic> idefix_: right
[07:57] <NoUse> moparfan90 no, there is a command to stop it, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[07:57] <stevejesus> czer323, i tried that.  i tried every combination of b <tab> bt <tab> bit <tab> and so forth
[07:57] <czer323> Stevejesus> so if you open a console, just bt and use tab twice, it'll just show all the variations.  You can probably figure it out from there.
[07:57] <moparfan90> nouse, wel i cant use any commands.. when i try and login xorg freezes
[07:57] <NoUse> moparfan90 start in recovery mode via the boot menu
[07:58] <czer323> steve> one thing i had to do was install bittornado from the packager.  then they were there.
[07:58] <jak> is ti possible to have direct rendering enabled with xinerama?
[07:58] <steev> where can i find older versions of the kernel patches that ubuntu applies? (e.g. linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-23-{0-39}.diff.gz
[07:58] <steev> well, i have 39, but 0-38 is what i am looking for
[07:58] <stevejesus> czer323, well, every package manager uses apt as a backend, and of course the same sources.list so i dont see a change in methodology helping
[07:58] <moparfan90> when grub starts it just says grub and then starts ubuntu
[07:59] <moparfan90> there no menu
[07:59] <stevejesus> are there any other bt clients wit ha small footprint?
[07:59] <NoUse> moparfan90 it says "press esc for menu"
[07:59] <moparfan90> oo
[07:59] <moparfan90> o
[07:59] <moparfan90> ill try that now thanks
[07:59] <moparfan90> brb
[08:00] <czer323> stevejesus> I guess i'm just saying, if it's installed correctly, then it has to be in the /usr/bin folder.  So it should come up.
[08:00] <systemerror_> i have a big problem!!!  if i start a program who needs glx then always comes a msg "wait event returned -16" what could it be??  please help me
[08:00] <stevejesus> ktorrent is turning out to be a real work-in-progess that it not ready for prime-time yet.  i refuse to use azureus as my machine is getting old.
[08:00] <Hoxzer> can I somehow update to 6.x from 5.1 without reinstalling?
[08:00] <NoUse> !tell Hoxzer about upgrade
[08:00] <stevejesus> i need a bt client from the terminal only.  if possible...
[08:00] <ojai> my laptop's sound stopped working after the Dapper dist-upgrade from Breezy -- anyone hear of anything similiar?
[08:01] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: the default torrent client seems quite capable
[08:01] <NoUse> stevejesus sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[08:01] <stevejesus> ojai, i w=dont do dist-upgrades.   they are always broken...
[08:01] <thoreauputic> ah, terminal only
[08:01] <jonas3> !upgrade
[08:01] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[08:01] <stevejesus> NoUse, i have, but cant seem to find an executable in my path.
[08:01] <ojai> stevejesus: haven't had a prob in the past but too late now! :(
[08:01] <Sateila> Have problems installing Xubuntu... Live CD boots up just fine, but install freezes to 50% at disk check. And there it stays, until I cancel it. Any help?
[08:01] <NoUse> stevejesus they start with bt, type bt then hit TAB
[08:02] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: btdownloadcurses or something like that
[08:02] <jbirdAngel> if i have kubuntu installed and i want ubuntu do i have to just download the iso and install like normal or is there an easier way
[08:02] <cdubya> I didn't think there were really big issues doing dist-upgrade......but it didn't work for me at first.....
[08:02] <stevejesus> NoUse i have tried every comination and <tab>.  cant find it.
[08:02] <czer323> stevejesus> check the /usr/bin.  That's where it installs by default anyway.
[08:02] <NoUse> stevejesus 'dpkg -L bittorrent'
[08:03] <Michaeln> is it hard to get WLAN running with ubuntu?
[08:03] <moparfan90> nouse, thank you i think that worked
[08:03] <troytroy> is skype in the repos
[08:03] <moparfan90> ill be back online later to see
[08:03] <green_earz> stevejesus: bittornado   for command line or bittornado-gui   gui
[08:03] <stevejesus> czer323, i wonder why it wont auto complete.  i found "bttrack", that seems to be the one : )
[08:03] <Saist> yes.. skype is in the repros
[08:04] <thoreauputic> aha - lauchmany-curses
[08:04] <stevejesus> does anyone know if btornado will resume torrents that were running in other clients?
[08:04] <noway-> Hello, I am trying to use apt-get on Ubuntu Server 6.  I have to enable the root account for apt-get correct?
[08:04] <thoreauputic> *launchmany-curses
[08:04] <thoreauputic> how appropriate..
[08:04] <Michaeln> will support plug and play for my WLAN card?
[08:04] <thoreauputic> and bittorrent-console
[08:04] <stevejesus> noway-. sudo <command>
[08:04] <Michaeln> *adapter, sorry
[08:04] <jonas3> jbirdAngel: no just install gnome from apt
[08:04] <barongas> Totem plays my dvds very slowly and sound skipping where vlc can get it going (problem is that I need gamma correction for my screen and vlc wont do that), any ideas?
[08:04] <stevejesus> noway-. thats all you have to do.
[08:04] <majd> i just ordered an ubuntu cd from ShipIt, does the cd come in server as well as regular edition?
[08:05] <stevejesus> noway-. you can do sudo -i if you want to be true root
[08:05] <noway-> stevejesus: what is the default root password? I didn't have me setup in installation
[08:05] <CrippsFX> something weird is happening with my sound ... I woke my computer up from "hibernate" and now it won't play sounds, I get the beep at the command line for using autocomplete, but that's it. no other sound. mpg321 complains that "the resource is busy or in use," so does amarok on alsa output ... I'm kind of stumped.
[08:05] <jbirdAngel> jonas3: okay thanks
[08:05] <jak> noway-:  there is no default root password
[08:05] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: did you see my commands above?
[08:05] <jbirdAngel> jonas3: is that the same as using adept?
[08:05] <stevejesus> noway-. its your user pass
[08:05] <Yoric> noway-, you can't connect as root.
[08:05] <jak> noway-: do 'sudo passwd' to set a root password
[08:05] <troytroy> hi is flash in the repos
[08:06] <noway-> jak: ok, thanks!
[08:06] <apokryphos> noway-: read the FAQ first please
[08:06] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: dpkg -L bittorrent | grep bin
[08:06] <czer323> noway> They did away with su command
[08:06] <Saist> flash plugin non-free is in the repro's
[08:06] <stevejesus> thoreauputic, i have seen them now.  thank you.  nice name by the way.  very witty
[08:06] <noway-> I read they disabled the root account by default?  Maybe I am just dyslexic?
[08:06] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: :)
[08:06] <jak> true
[08:06] <apokryphos> noway-: all in the FAQ :)
[08:06] <troytroy> ok thanks
[08:06] <thoreauputic> !tell noway about sudo
[08:06] <roc> a question: is there a good c++ development environment for gnome?
[08:07] <CrippsFX> roc, xemacs
[08:07] <troytroy> i need to enable code syntax high lighting for vim
[08:07] <thoreauputic> roc: not sure if anjuta does c++
[08:07] <apokryphos> troytroy: edit /etc/vimrc and turn syntax highlighting on
[08:07] <thoreauputic> !info anjuta
[08:07] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB
[08:07] <CrippsFX> thoreauputic, yeah it does, but last I used it it was buggy and over complicated
[08:07] <thoreauputic> it does
[08:07] <zandaa> dos anyone know what sorta software I need to use to create svg (scalable vector graphics)?
[08:07] <roc> CrippsFX: thanks for the hint
[08:07] <thoreauputic> CrippsFX: OK
[08:07] <roc> thoreauputic: going to check that too...
[08:07] <apokryphos> zandaa: inkscape
[08:08] <rongenre> emacs is worth learning for C++ work
[08:08] <Stormx2> Does anyone here use beagle?
[08:08] <CrippsFX> roc, I just don't see the point in full IDEs ... I like it simple :P
[08:08] <stevejesus> i think im all set guys!  what a memory saver this is going to be.
[08:08] <rongenre> at least I think so
[08:08] <zandaa> apokryphos: inkscape ey? thanks mate
[08:08] <apokryphos> Stormx2: just ask :P. Rarely, but sometimes.
[08:08] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: I prefer locate, grep and find ;)
[08:08] <inrelief> hey guys -- i've got kind of an odd problem -- when i open firefox, it goes to the university of arizona -- but my default home is google.com/ig
[08:08] <MisterN> Stormx2: i tested it once but then decided to uninstall mono and anything related :)
[08:08] <apokryphos> zandaa: available in the repositories, yeah.
[08:08] <CrippsFX> rongenre, I just use the emacs syntax highliting and the build in command line :D
[08:08] <noway-> apokryphos: thanks, and sorry :-D
[08:08] <Stormx2> Ah
[08:08] <zandaa> apokryphos, I know, was just wondering :)
[08:08] <apokryphos> noway-: no worries =)
[08:08] <Stormx2> Im actually just gonna give it some time.
[08:08] <SystemBomber> Can anyone help me set up my wireless that I can access my router with WPA-PSK please?
[08:09] <inrelief> anybody seen/heard of anything like this?
[08:09] <webwolf_27> would somebody be nice enough to give me a hand with my dhcp?
[08:09] <roc> CrippsFX: me neither... but sometimes it is a bit easier to use a IDE than just a text editor, don't get me wrong, I love text editors and I use the often for programming... but as I said, in some cases, it just doesn't work out
[08:09] <Saist> okay : question of my own : in reguards to ATi's Remote Wonder II. Are there any drivers or applications available that will let me use the multimedia controls on the remote?
[08:09] <Samus_Aran> going to install Ubuntu for the first time.  wish me luck.  I hope it is less annoying that the other distros I've used over the past years
[08:09] <apokryphos> Mono itself isn't bad at all, but an indexing search engine that updates regularly is by nature is intensive to run
[08:09] <Stormx2> I guess its indexing
[08:09] <juantao> Korrie - juantao here - there is no /etc/ntp.conf file - anybody else seeing this problem in 6.06 ?
[08:09] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: beagle has a habit of suddenly eating 99% CPU here
[08:09] <NoUse> inrelief can you reset the default homepage?
[08:09] <apokryphos> if you ran updatedb every minute or so it would be far more intensive, for example
[08:09] <Stormx2> haha ok
[08:09] <andre_> polska
[08:09] <Stormx2> It looks really neat to me.] 
[08:09] <CrippsFX> roc, syntax highliting?
[08:09] <johnm1019> did they fix the random crashes on machines with ATI cards?
[08:09] <webwolf_27> the server is set to use subnet-mask 255.255.255.0 but the client is searching on 255.255.255.255
[08:10] <Saist> johnm : I have not experiened any random crashes under *nix with ATi cards for several months now.
[08:10] <Manabu> The main page of ubuntu don't work well in 800x600 monitors
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> johnm1019: I think so - I've been fine for a while.
[08:10] <Linuturk> :)
[08:10] <roc> CrippsFX: as far as I know almost any text editor on linux has syntax highlighting for several languages so that is not the problem...
[08:10] <apokryphos> Stormx2: it does have many little tricks to try to make it only index when the CPU's not being used, but that's a touch business.
[08:10] <jonas3> after I upgraded to dapper my xfce desktop is weired
[08:10] <apokryphos> *tough
[08:10] <Samus_Aran> one question I had was where I should go on Ubuntu config to place an interactive startup script ?  all my hard drives (except for where I install the distro) are encrypted, and I need to run the script to enter the passwords to mount them, and can't log in until it is done
[08:10] <Linuturk> anyone know of a web based time clock system?
[08:10] <jak> johnm1019: i have 2 ati cards, no crashes in 4 weeks since started using dapper
[08:10] <stevejesus> oh this is great.  bittornado resumes partial download.  i am a happy camper
[08:10] <inrelief> NoUse - the default homepage is google.com/ig -- yet when i open firefox fore the first time it spits me off to the freekin' university of arizona!
[08:10] <CrippsFX> Saist, me neither ... none that are really random ... they're all caused by something ;)
[08:10] <jbirdAngel> do i just download gnome or what else do i download to switch from kubuntu to gnome
[08:10] <roc> CrippsFX: I'm mainly concerned on project management and such...
[08:10] <jbirdAngel> gnome applets or?
[08:10] <johnm1019> tonyyarusso, ok, so have i in the last week, but after moving to dapper I was crashing every  40-70 minutes for about the first week
[08:10] <czer323> stevejesus> awesome.  I was pretty sure that was the ticket. ;)
[08:10] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: :))
[08:11] <johnm1019> on breezy i was fine
[08:11] <Stormx2> apokryphos: Oh I see. Well I'll leave it overnight then
[08:11] <NoUse> inrelief yeah I know, I'm saying have you tried resetting it?
[08:11] <SystemBomber> Can anyone help me set up my wireless that I can access my router with WPA-PSK please?
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> johnm1019: On the final release?
[08:11] <apokryphos> Stormx2: needless to say, it's a great effort (all spreads from the idea of a "flat, non-hierarchial filesystem", but many people end up just not using it regularly.
[08:11] <CrippsFX> roc, I see. Personally I like to manage that manually, but if you have a *really* big project an IDE *may* be the way to go.
[08:11] <stevejesus> thank you everyone for your help tofay.
[08:11] <stevejesus> today*
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> johnm1019: I had issues during development, but not with the final.
[08:11] <johnm1019> whatever apt upgraded me too on june 1
[08:11] <NoUse> inrelief like change it to something like ubuntulinux.coma dn then back to google.com/ig
[08:11] <rongenre> Crippsfx:  granted, doing a lot of C++... *shudder*
[08:11] <apokryphos> Stormx2: it indexes very regullarly though; after a few minutes of you using it, it'll try to use some CPU again to index :).
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> johnm1019: Interesting.  Well, the Radeon X300 is doing fine here now.
[08:11] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: new versions of the 2.6 kernel support messages to apps upon any filesystem modifications.  this could be used to replace updatedb with a realtime list of all files on the system
[08:11] <apokryphos> Stormx2: you can help it a lot by some optimisations, like make it not index some places in /etc or whatever that you jus tdon't think you'll ever dive into etc
[08:12] <johnm1019> tonyyarusso, cool -- now to get xgl....... :-\
[08:12] <SystemBomber> are X800s running with FGLRX properly now?
[08:12] <inrelief> NoUse, no help...set it to about:blank and ubuntu.com
[08:12] <inrelief> firefox still has an affinity for arizona
[08:12] <Manabu> where I shoud talk about webpage (www.ubuntu.org) bugs?
[08:12] <Stormx2> apokryphos: Currently, its indexing my ~ and /media/Media/Music
[08:12] <ArthurBrazil> does the LAMP install come with an ftp server?
[08:12] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: interesting, I know nothing of it, but sounds promising.
[08:12] <CrippsFX> rongenre, no problem. I'm stuck doing Java.
[08:13] <juantao> anybody missing /etc/ntp.conf in 6.06 ?
[08:13] <stevejesus> for everyones info, if you didnt already know.  it appears you don't have to set up any port forwarding inside bittornado.  it appears to have some sort uf upnp discovery tool.  it moves very quickly if you have set up port-forwarding on your router.
[08:13] <apokryphos> Manabu: launchpad
[08:13] <djcabz> what is considered good for a cdrom/dvd drive when the hdparm -Tt /dev/cdrom command is issued...  specifcally for the timing buffered disk reads.
[08:13] <Saist> SystemBomber : I have an x1600 Pro and an x1800xt on *nix.
[08:13] <czer323> inrelief> Does this happen with any other browsers?  You don't happen to goto that university, do you?
[08:13] <rikai> stevejesus: all bittorrent clients resume partial downloads. ;)
[08:13] <Saist> I would presume the x8xx series would also be supported
[08:13] <roc> well I'm off...
[08:13] <stevejesus> rikai, thank you : )
[08:13] <ubuntu_> for the third day I'm trying to get Dapper installed ... to get past the black screen ... I'm now in irssi and tried "sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg ... but it didn't get me anywhere ... did i type it in wrong?
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[08:13] <moparfan90> whats the command in terminal to change the directory that your in?
[08:14] <thoreauputic> Waht happened to the Beagle system-tray/ notification icon ? "best" doesn't launch it on dapper
[08:14] <SystemBomber> cd
[08:14] <CrippsFX> ubuntu_, yes, you did. dpkg-reconfigure is typed without spaces.
[08:14] <moparfan90> ok
[08:14] <SystemBomber> cd /dir
[08:14] <Stormx2> I ran a beagle status and one of the jobs was something like uid:pwn7ahf089a0h6f
[08:14] <rikai> stevejesus: ;)
[08:14] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I just noticed it being added recently.  not sure what version, but recent.  updatedb is a bitch on my system, as I have over 3/4 TiB of encrypted data.  I wrote an UpdateDB_Slowly script to handle this fact.  it takes roughly twice as long to index the system, but it doesn't lag at all
[08:14] <NoUse> inrelief in firefox type "about:config" and then search for 'startup'
[08:14] <apokryphos> Manabu: hm, I see it's not lsited anymore there; could've been down to the move to malone, away from bugzilla. I'd just email webmaster@ubuntu.com
[08:14] <stevejesus> i was wrong.  found the preferences
[08:14] <jak> juantao: ls: /etc/ntp.conf: No such file or directory
[08:14] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: it does this by running update db in background, then stopping it for 3/4 of a second, starting for 1/3 of a second, etc.
[08:15] <pigor> hello. how can i install  an old kernel version without compile it by myself?
[08:15] <rikai> steev: prefrence?
[08:15] <rikai> err
[08:15] <CrippsFX> does anybody know how to get rid of a *seemingly* random "resource busy" for ALSA? I want to listen to music, but for some strange reason, it appears that alsa is busy ...
[08:15] <pladijs> hi folks. i'm having kernel/module problems after a bad shutdown. i have chrooted into my system using the live-cd. i though reinstalling some packages might fix the system (eg linux-image) but that didn't work. any hints on how to avoid having to reinstall
[08:15] <rikai> stevejesus: prefrence?
[08:15] <ubuntu_> also .. what is the command to get back to the terminal prompt?
[08:15] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: nice, I see. Lot of data, there, for sure 8)
[08:15] <Manabu> hum.. ok
[08:15] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: the off/on allows the hard drive to keep up with the writes without lagging any apps.  I don't even notice the updatedb when watching fullscreen movies
[08:15] <SystemBomber> are X800s running with FGLRX properly now?
[08:15] <SystemBomber> oops
[08:15] <SystemBomber> Can anyone help me set up my wireless that I can access my router with WPA-PSK please?
[08:16] <rikai> ubuntu_: ctrl+alt+fkey to switch between different terminals.
[08:16] <czer323> ubuntu> Why not just use a different console?  Use ctrl-alt-f3 to change to a different console and log in.
[08:16] <lufis> Hi. How can I update to the newest Firefox?
[08:16] <Saist> apt-get install firefox
[08:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell lufis -about ff1.5
[08:16] <czer323> ubuntu> that lets you go back and forth between irc and the console then.
[08:16] <pladijs> the error messages are the minix module which cannot be found and the root device which is not found
[08:16] <stevejesus> sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[08:16] <gnomefreak> Saist: no
[08:16] <lufis> Saist: I mean the latest upgrade. The auto-updater doesn't work.
[08:16] <rikai> ubuntu_: also, its sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:16] <peter1> hi, how to set a version that will be kept and used by default? i just installed debian, bash2.05 installed by default, i downloaded bash3 and i would like to set it as default, is there a way to do that (other than modifying symlinks), thanks.
[08:16] <CrippsFX> pladijs, what are your boot error messages?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> lufis: ead your pm
[08:16] <ArthurBrazil> Is there a special support channel for the LAMP install?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> read even
[08:16] <rikai> ubuntu_: no space between dpkg and -reconfigure. :)
[08:16] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: updatedb tends to be just fine for me if it runs once or so a day (I think I have it set to 5 in the morning)
[08:16] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I have long wanted a realtime updatedb style file monitor, as updatedb is horribly inefficient.  doing the same tasks every day.  but for me, it is too useful not to use it.  I use the regular expression searches of slocate a dozen times daily.  I hope this new kernel method catches on and gets some software
[08:16] <jak> #
[08:16] <jak> 25
[08:16] <mantono> Is there a way to keep an application running after that the terminal from which it was launched have been closed?
[08:17] <jak> oops, bouncy ball hit the keyboard :)
[08:17] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: tbh, I tend to know exactly where most things are (my /home is pretty tidy), and things like dpkg -L and grepping logs is more-or-less all else I'd need
[08:17] <pladijs> i already did grub-install, dpkg-reconfigured all linux-image-... packages
[08:17] <steev> rikai: prefernce? no, im trying to track down the introduction of the prism54_softmac in the ubuntu kernel
[08:17] <CrippsFX> woah ... in FC there is a command "service" that I can use as so to restart a service: service <servicename> restart;  ... is there an ubuntu equivalent?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> mantono: launch it from a launcher instead of term
[08:18] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: my files are extremely organised as well ... usually the ones I forget are the ones that haven't been sorted yet, which generally happens the most when the hard drives are full already, heh
[08:18] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: yes, realtime updatedb would open up a hu-uge amount of capabilities; it has the potential to revolutionise the standard of the filesystem. Some are all too eager to do with the directory hierarchy :)
[08:18] <jak> CrippsFX: /etc/init.d/servicename stop/start/restart
[08:18] <rikai> steev: sorry, wrong person. :)
[08:18] <CrippsFX> jak thanks.
[08:18] <mantono> gnomefreak: okey, thanks
[08:18] <juantao> jak - looks like ntp.conf is missing - yes? same for you. is this a bug?
[08:18] <peter1> mantono: nohup
[08:18] <pladijs> isn't there a list of packages i could reinstall using a default configuration? i have the most standard setup with all in /dev/hda1
[08:18] <SAM_theman> Umm guys
[08:18] <LORENA> olaaa
[08:18] <SAM_theman> anyone help!!!!!!!
[08:19] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: *all too eager to do away with
[08:19] <joshbuddy> hey everyone
[08:19] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I have changed around my hard drive structures now to allow better sorting.  I have my hard drives under /mnt/A160 B300 C300 etc. meaning the first hard drive is 160GB, the second is 300GB, etc.  then I symlink them to my home dir
[08:19] <czer323> !anyone
[08:19] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[08:19] <LORENA> wat your name
[08:19] <stevejesus> SAM_theman, whats up?
[08:19] <SAM_theman> my hp 3653 isn't working
[08:19] <bullrage> err whys this happenign to me? Executing 'builtin_dd if=/media/downloads/complete/Eight_Below_(2006)_(NTSC)/rep-eightbelow.iso of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
[08:19] <bullrage> umount: /media/dvdrecorder is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[08:19] <bullrage> :-( /dev/hdc: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount
[08:19] <joshbuddy> just an odd question ... it would appear (to me) that X is not using any hardware acceleration ...
[08:19] <juantao> for the record, hola is spelled 'hola' not ola or olaaa
[08:19] <joshbuddy> how can i double check if it is or not?
[08:19] <GaveUp> ok i'm having a problem that as far as i can tell is related to openssl ... trying to use muttng w/ libesmtp to talk to a smtp server over tls (same problem for ssl) the problem seems to come when it tries to create the session and openssl says it can't find the ssl3-md5 digest...anyone have an idea of a way to fix the openssl package to include this digest?
[08:19] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: yeah, same here. Though I'm essentially going to try to keep as few partitions as possible in the future; always seem to have wasted space lying around with many partitions.
[08:19] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, that's an Ipaq?
[08:19] <rikai> CrippsFX: be sure to prefix that with sudo. ;)
[08:20] <SAM_theman> No not the PDA my printer
[08:20] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I am one of the first who will dump directory based filesystems.  I hate them.  I have hundreds of thousands of files spanning tens of thousands of directories ... and I constantly, CONSTANTLY need files and directories to be in 2 to 10 different locations, where they are relevant
[08:20] <CrippsFX> rikai, why bother? su -  ... ;)
[08:20] <stevejesus> SAM_theman, quickest means to an end.  sudo apt-get install hp*
[08:20] <SAM_theman> i have the 3650 Ipaq
[08:20] <lufis> Ok, see, 1.0.4 was released the other day. I'm using 1.5.3 on Dapper. I want to update to the latest version, but the FF auto-updater is gray'ed out on the Help menu. Any ideas?
[08:20] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, willing to sell?
[08:20] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: I have a few distributions set up which take necessary partitions, but one /home dir and symlinks for config files makes the transition between each one.... smooth 8)
[08:20] <CrippsFX> ;)
[08:20] <SAM_theman> lol
[08:20] <SAM_theman> its old i got the new on
[08:20] <jak> juantao: is not there. but do  needit?
[08:20] <SAM_theman> *one
[08:20] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, I wish I could help, but I use a canon printer.
[08:20] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: e.g. a PNG image used in a PHP web site should be in "images", "php", "web server", "company name" and a few other folders
[08:20] <jak> *do i need it?
[08:20] <stevejesus> i've got a powerbook for sell, while we are talking about it
[08:20] <rikai> CrippsFX: because sudo is the default, and whats reccomended...? ;)
[08:20] <apokryphos> yeah
[08:21] <SAM_theman> The Hp Ipaq 5550
[08:21] <juantao> jak, well can't seem to set the clock
[08:21] <pladijs> CrippsFX: any idea?
[08:21] <stevejesus> sale*
[08:21] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, wait. you have an IPaq 3650, that's old, *and* a new one ?
[08:21] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: which explains people's fascination with tags ;-)
[08:21] <czer323> josh_buddy> more than likely it's not accelerated by default.  You'd need to install the drivers depending on your video card.
[08:21] <SAM_theman> yup
[08:21] <CrippsFX> pladijs, you still haven't told me what your boot error is.
[08:21] <cjnodell> Hello all!
[08:21] <ubuntu_> ok ... I made the changes ... how do I get this laptop to reboot ... or pick up where it left off with the install?
[08:21] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: I use digiKam for the gazillion images I have. It's pretty good.
[08:21] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, interested in selling the old one?
[08:21] <NoUse> SAM_theman have you tried this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPrinterInstallationAndMaintenanceDapper
[08:21] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: perhaps you would be interested to hear the $HOME system I have used the past few years -- it is so much cleaner that I could never, ever go back to regular /home/foo
[08:21] <SAM_theman> my dad gave me his new one and i gave him my old one he loves it
[08:22] <SAM_theman> So u screwed :p
[08:22] <pladijs> CrippsFX: some lines above your question. hard for me to copy paste as i'm in a terminal, sorry
[08:22] <jak> juantao: run sudo time-admin and click synchronise time
[08:22] <bullrage> arrghh why cant i burn
[08:22] <mpeters> how to you install themes???
[08:22] <cdubya> what would be the best way of setting up a cron job to backup a directory recursively?
[08:22] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, ahh. damn. I've been looking for a 3600 series IPaq to put *nix on :P
[08:22] <cjnodell> I am not sure if i am in the right place to be asking for my particular issue, but i was hoping someone could help me out.
[08:22] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: what do you mean?
[08:22] <SAM_theman> but dude don't get the Ipaq
[08:22] <mpeters> I want some really kickass themes
[08:22] <NoUse> !tell mpeters about themes
[08:22] <SAM_theman> Get a Palm os my mom and sis got one
[08:22] <SAM_theman> the whole gfamily has a PDA
[08:23] <D-side> if you're looking for a pda to use AS a pda, putting linux on an old ipaq is no option.
[08:23] <rikai> ubuntu_: sudo reboot
[08:23] <ubuntu_> rikai: thanks
[08:23] <D-side> I've done it many times over, and it's never as good as either PPC or PalmOS
[08:23] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, I'm currently on a Palm Vx, but it's a loaner from work.
[08:23] <rikai> ubuntu_: or
[08:23] <bullrage> umount: /media/dvdrecorder is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[08:23] <bullrage> :-( /dev/hdc: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount
[08:23] <pladijs> it's the minix module which fails to load and the root device which is not found. 'unable to mount /dev/hda1 on /root: no such device"
[08:23] <SAM_theman> O thats old
[08:23] <CrippsFX> D-side, I want it to use for FUN!!!
[08:23] <ubuntu_> rikai: will it same my changes or just start over?
[08:23] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: what I use is in the form of "/home/<user>/<settings>" where user is the username and settings is whatever they want to call their config directory.  the config directory is their actual ~ dir, but when you log into bash, it starts you at /home/<user>, which is where all the users files reside
[08:23] <rikai> ubuntu_: if you just want to try starting the gui sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:23] <bullrage> I am root, why can't i burn, i've just burnt one DVD? but it wont let me now?
[08:23] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: so in ~ is only the dotfiles and other such config files
[08:23] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, sure is. Still plays tetris though!
[08:24] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, ... and lemmings.
[08:24] <rikai> ubuntu_: followed by /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:24] <SAM_theman> HEHEH
[08:24] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: /home/<user>/{documents,pictures,movies,whatever}
[08:24] <SAM_theman> yo go to yahoo and they have a shit load of stuff for PDA
[08:24] <SAM_theman> Everything to games and wallpapers and themes
[08:24] <ubuntu_> rikai: ok thanks
[08:24] <cjnodell> I am using a ubuntu 6.06. I did a server install and ma using fluxbox as my window manager. I am using rox-filer as my file manager and for desktop icons. i adder the line "rox-filer -p=PIN &" to my startup file, but i only get desktop icons on one of my workspaces, the other three are blank. What am i doing wrong?
[08:24] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: that way every file auto-created by an app is separate from the neat and tidy files created by the user
[08:24] <Scorpmoon> is gFTP better than filezilla?
[08:25] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, yeah, but most of it is probably for <=PalmOS 4.1
[08:25] <SAM_theman> how on i setting my printer
[08:25] <SAM_theman> *hold on
[08:25] <jak> how do i get 3d working with xinerama, or do i have to switch off xinerama everytime i want to use a opengl app?
[08:25] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I got tired of having hundreds of files show up when I did a dir listing in ~, heh.  was a big mess
[08:25] <CoC> any1 can help, got a ident problem. under xp i choosed port 114 @ aplications and configured my longshine router 2 forward port 113->114....worked
[08:25] <CoC> but under ubuntu.....i dont get it
[08:25] <CoC> :/
[08:25] <SAM_theman> yo look here http://pastebin.com/762991
[08:26] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I currently have 358 files in ~, all created by apps.  my 24 personal directories are in ~/..
[08:26] <SAM_theman> this  is for the dude who sent me the hp help thing
[08:26] <ubuntu_> rikai: when do the starting part, it says: Failed
[08:26] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: ahh, yes indeed. Could be handy 8)
[08:27] <rikai> ubuntu_: meaning your changes didn't fix the problem. :/
[08:27] <CrippsFX> GAH!
[08:27] <NoUse> SAM_theman how is the printer attached to the computer?
[08:27] <SAM_theman> usb
[08:27] <SAM_theman> Brand new baby
[08:27] <Paradoxx> !vnc
[08:27] <cjnodell> Can anyone help me? -- I am using a ubuntu 6.06. I did a server install and ma using fluxbox as my window manager. I am using rox-filer as my file manager and for desktop icons. i adder the line "rox-filer -p=PIN &" to my startup file, but i only get desktop icons on one of my workspaces, the other three are blank. What am i doing wrong?--
[08:27] <ubotu> somebody said vnc was http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[08:27] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: you should give it a try some time if you're a neat-freak like myself
[08:27] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: here though things very very rarely go into plain /home/user, I tend to put them straight into the respective folder (kget helps here, since I've got it set-up to automatically detect some extensions, i.e. avi, png, jpg, nzb, etc)
[08:27] <NoUse> SAM_theman unplug it and plug it back in, then run 'dmesg' and see if says anything about the printer
[08:27] <ubuntu_> rikai: you know ... Brezzy went on here just fine ... what's up with this?
[08:27] <leks> R THER EDGY REPOS
[08:27] <leks> (h)
[08:27] <leks> :-)
[08:27] <NoUse> leks no
[08:28] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: probably once a month I'll look in my actual /home/user and just delete practically every file
[08:28] <czer323> btw, i gotta hand it to you guys.  I do technical support on the phone, but you guys do it for linux... and in IRC.  It takes some skillz. ;)
[08:28] <SAM_theman> o ok
[08:28] <SAM_theman> let me do that
[08:28] <camara> Is there any problem with the boinc! server? I'm getting "Failed to fetch http://pkg-boinc.alioth.debian.org/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found"
[08:28] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: but you would have /home/user/images or whatnot, mixed with things created by apps like /home/user/OpenOffice.org2 and so on
[08:29] <juantao> jak - little window pops up saying 'NTP support is not installed' although a 'which ntpdate' returns - / usr/sbin/ntpdate
[08:29] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: yeah, but I know of all the ones I need straight away, so changing to it is essentially never a hassle
[08:29] <thoreauputic> camara: I get 404 too
[08:29] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: an ls isn't as pretty though, for sure ;-)
[08:29] <CrippsFX> can somebody take a look at this error and tell me what they think? : http://pastebin.ca/62637
[08:29] <thoreauputic> camara: I'd say there's a problem
[08:29] <camara> They must be updating it now...
[08:29] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I hate it when computers don't do what I want, which is why I migrated away from the Lock-in-King, Microsoft, heh
[08:29] <rikai> ubuntu_: sometimes major upgrades cause new bugs.
[08:30] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: hm, currently, even: ls ~|wc -l -> 50
[08:30] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/763003
[08:30] <apokryphos> ouch
[08:30] <rikai> ubuntu_: did you dist-upgrade or do a fresh install?
[08:30] <leks> NoUse: Any Idea when they will be opened?
[08:30] <mirak> hi
[08:30] <ubuntu_> rikai: fresh install
[08:30] <NoUse> !tell leks about edgy
[08:30] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: damn straight 8)
[08:30] <marcelo_> asil
[08:30] <jak> juantao: do 'sudo apt-get install ntp ntp-simple ntp-server' and try again
[08:30] <camara> thoreauputic: have you asked one of the experts already?
[08:30] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I have migrated my program settings through more than a half dozen distros so far, about to try out Ubuntu.  something that is just impossible on windows
[08:30] <camara> Are we the only ones to complain?
[08:30] <jak> !tell me about edgy
[08:31] <Samus_Aran> !tell me about it
[08:31] <thoreauputic> camara: heh - no I just used your link and got a 404
[08:31] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:31] <NoUse> !ubotu
[08:31] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[08:31] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, isn't that the truth :D
[08:31] <camara> aaaah
[08:31] <rikai> ubuntu_: may want to install breezy and dist-upgrade, works sometimes
[08:31] <SAM_theman> what
[08:31] <johannes> hello i have a problem installing wine on AMD64 with ubuntu 6.06
[08:31] <ubuntu_> rikai: ok
[08:31] <mirak> I am not sure to understand well how work hdparm.conf . when I add a drive, are the parameters added to the default ? If not, how do I know the default settings for the hard drives ?
[08:31] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: same 8). My .kde has seen 4/5 distros, and quite a few KDE versions
[08:31] <camara> thoreauputic: so you Dapper already, right?
[08:31] <CrippsFX> er ... Samus_Aran isn't that the truth .... I've been migrating users on windows comps all month ...
[08:31] <mirak> johannes: it should not work
[08:31] <thoreauputic> camara: but given that we both got 404, I surmise there's a problem
[08:31] <johannes> why not ?
[08:31] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: you using Ubuntu now? How do you like it? =)
[08:31] <stevejesus> wine is 32-bit
[08:31] <mirak> johannes: because windows libs are 32 bits
[08:31] <thoreauputic> camara: dapper all round :)
[08:32] <camara> jealous... (
[08:32] <Tobberoth> Guys, if i use grub setup hd0.0 where windows is, will i be able to choose between windows and ubuntu_
[08:32] <camara> :(
[08:32] <stevejesus> johannes, crossover office works great on my turion64 lappy though : )
[08:32] <stevejesus> anyone need a powerbook?
[08:32] <camara> thoreauputic: so you have boinc! running, I guess
[08:32] <mirak> johannes: the next realease of ubuntu should mixe 32 and 64
[08:32] <NoUse> johannes you need to set up a chroot to run wine in AMD64, ubotu will send you a link
[08:32] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, I want a powerbook ...
[08:32] <thoreauputic> camara: I also get 1.3 MB /sec from my mirror
[08:32] <NoUse> !tell johannes about chroot
[08:32] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I used it only for a few hours at someone's house, was doing a housecall to help her figure some things out (she is a newbie to computers, her brother who is living in another city set it up for her after her Windows was overrun by viruses/worms)
[08:32] <wastrel> ubuntu
[08:32] <johannes> steok thnx
[08:32] <thoreauputic> camara: I use a local mirror in .au
[08:32] <jc87-pt> hi guys , im writing a spec for edgy , i already read the documentation about but i still have questions about some details of how to do it , can someone help me with some details ?
[08:32] <camara> thoreauputic: could you check your sources.list for me if there is the same line (or similar)?
[08:32] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: the old classic 8)
[08:32] <thoreauputic> camara: I have webspace on boinc
[08:32] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I showed her how to install programs and set up streaming audio and showed her how to use her scanner into The GIMP.  she's a happy camper
[08:33] <stevejesus> CrippsFX, 15-inch 1.25, airport extreme, 512mb
[08:33] <apokryphos> cool
[08:33] <thoreauputic> camara: pastebin it if you like
[08:33] <Tobberoth> Windows was installed after ubuntu, i need help to install grub from liveCD!
[08:33] <camara> yes, please
[08:33] <stevejesus> CrippsFX, will ship with fresh dapper is desired.
[08:33] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: I've got at least 4/5 users converted here full-time since moving into halls; a lot of praise =_
[08:33] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: and while helping her out, I realised it is a very slick distro and has a very large repository of apps, and I am currently not having a lot of free time for compiling things, so I wanted to give it a shot
[08:33] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, what's the processor, clock speed, and price?
[08:33] <jak> juantao: its a bug. still doesnt sychronize after install ntp support.
[08:33] <stevejesus> Cripps, just sent that info... look above.  800?
[08:33] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: *nod*
[08:34] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: e.g. my current distro doesn't have GNU Cash, and it has about 20 deps ... didn't feel like compiling it
[08:34] <thoreauputic> camara: I don't use boinc - I use mirror.optusnet.com for apt
[08:34] <thoreauputic> erm, mirror.optusnet.com.au
[08:34] <Tobberoth> Anyone who can help me_
[08:34] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I am sure I will find lots of annoyances with Ubuntu, I always do .. but I am hoping to have fewer annoyances than my current distro =p
[08:34] <wastrel> yay
[08:34] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, you got all but clock speed and storage in there.
[08:35] <czer323> steve> is it still covered with applecare? ;)
[08:35] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, unfortunately I don't have 800 to play with :/
[08:35] <ooodze> hello, gentlemen. can anybody tell me the best way to install ubuntu linux and windows xp on the same pc. i have 3 harddisks 20gb each. which os should be installed first, and what is the next step after i'll done it
[08:35] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: I'm not sure how on Ubuntu, but generally you can use "grub-install /dev/hda" to put it in your MBR
[08:35] <stevejesus> 1.25 g4, and 60gb
[08:35] <camara> thoreauputic: Well I don't intend to use boinc! either. The upgrade just adds its own sources.list (says the one I have is not good), and in that specific sources.lst, there is that error. I don't actually now what boinc! is...
[08:35] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: time-saver is a really big plus; I find Kubuntu configurable-enough for my needs, so it's fine and dandy. I dualboot only between suse and kubuntu these days
[08:35] <lee_> Hi, I've got an issue in Ubuntu where, whenever I'm away from the computer for 15 minutes or so and come back, the monitor and turned black, and I cannot access anything, no matter what I do it stays black. In order to get it functioning again I have to do a hard reset and start it back up... any thoughts?
[08:35] <CrippsFX> ahh. that's what the 1.25 was.
[08:35] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: you may need to use the CD to boot into the distro first, so it finds your grub config file
[08:35] <Tobberoth> okej samus, thanks.
[08:35] <stevejesus> Cripps, are you interested?
[08:35] <camara> thoreauputic: Could you send me your sources.list file?
[08:35] <thoreauputic> camara: boinc has a server in Switzerland
[08:36] <camara> thoreauputic: right...
[08:36] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, I'd like to be, but I can't justify spending that much money.
[08:36] <thoreauputic> camara: why not use seveas' sources?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> !sources
[08:36] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:36] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: check the Wiki, though.  it is a great source of information
[08:36] <thoreauputic> !easysource
[08:36] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:36] <camara> thoreauputic: what do you mean?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> camara: see ubotu above
[08:36] <stevejesus> CrippsFX, actually i need to sell it so bad that if you buy it in the next couple of days, i will throw in some harmon kardon soundsticks (non-USB, the good ones) at no charge
[08:36] <ooodze> oh, maybe i'll repeat my question...
[08:36] <chavo> Tobberoth, you're in the live cd?
[08:37] <ooodze> hello, gentlemen. can anybody tell me the best way to install ubuntu linux and windows xp on the same pc. i have 3 harddisks 20gb each. which os should be installed first, and what is the next step after i'll done it
[08:37] <camara> thoreauputic: ok, i'll check it. Thanks
[08:37] <thoreauputic> !install
[08:37] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[08:37] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: http://auk.ca/dd
[08:37] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, heh. payday isn't for 2 weeks, and even then, to give you an idea, I could only afford a max of $200
[08:37] <_maney> any gnome wizards about?  I really really hate those nasty little Xs on g-term's tabs.  is there any way to lose them?
[08:37] <jak> can i use an amd64 chroot on an i386 install?
[08:37] <thoreauputic> !dualboot
[08:37] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:37] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: there you go, that URL is to the guide for recovering GRUB using the rescue CD =)
[08:37] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, and you could definitely get more for that.
[08:37] <stevejesus> CrippsFX, oh well.  guess it will be going on craigslist.
[08:37] <stevekl> ooodze: Unless i'm mistaken, windows XP will override the MBR when you install it, so it should be installed first
[08:38] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, sorry I can't help you out there.
[08:38] <stevejesus> CrippsFX, i could, but i want to be fair.  and the new intel macbooks are really driving the value down
[08:38] <Tobberoth> chavo yes, im in the live CD
[08:38] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: yes, install Windows XP first, then install Ubuntu.  it will add it to a boot menu
[08:38] <Tobberoth> damnit, my keyboard doesnt want to work
[08:38] <stevejesus> ooodze, how about you not install windows at all...
[08:38] <czer323> stevejesus> intel macs really shoudln't be driving down prices.  It's not that good until the software becomes more available.
[08:39] <AlwaysIcey> Hi everyone,  I've gotten ubuntu installed, and everything works fine at first.  But, at some point, my networking quits completely.  Everything's configured right (IP, subnet, default gateway) and the eth is active, but it doesn't do anything.  The one thing I've done is installed Apache.  I'm completely lost here.
[08:39] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: if you have 3 20GB drives, I recommend installing Windows XP on a 20GB NTFS partition on one drive, leave a 20GB drive as FAT32 so you can share files smoothly between the two, and use the other 20GB for Ubuntu
[08:39] <Tobberoth> chevo, i tried some stuff in the wiki, but it wont work
[08:39] <camara> thoreauputic and ubotu: THANKS, that's helping a lot!
[08:39] <stevejesus> czer323, yeah, the adone stuff really does retain the value a bit
[08:39] <thoreauputic> camara: :)
[08:39] <stevejesus> czer323, adobe*
[08:39] <ToHellWithGA> oodze: what windows software do you absotively posilutely need?
[08:39] <thoreauputic> !tell camara about ubotu
[08:39] <sheepcentral> Hi I have a really big problem installing Dapper. I'm relatively new to Linux but I have used cygwin, fedora and mandrake at least a bit before. Anyway firstly when I boot I get errors to do with errors on dm-0 (logical block I think it says) and I get  about a hundred of these, they don't seem to be fatal though because it eventually passes them. The second and largest problem is when I...
[08:39] <li1> is there a web-plugin for firefox to play those web quicktime movies?
[08:39] <sheepcentral> ...start to install it I get to loading step 5 and then everything freezes, there is nothing I can do but hit the power switch. I think that these problems could be atleast in part due to the fact that my cd drive seems to be  quite slow even though it can read 48x. Help Me!
[08:39] <chavo> Tobberoth, which partition is ubuntu on?
[08:39] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: did you check out that URL ?
[08:39] <SAM_theman> WTF no cvs on 6.06
[08:39] <Tobberoth> chavo, i THINK ubuntu is on /dev/sda5
[08:40] <ooodze> ToHellWithGA, skype with netcam option
[08:40] <NoUse> lil install the mozillla-mplayer package
[08:40] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, thank you very much
[08:40] <tituomin> Hello all! Does anybody have experience with x-ubuntu (or xfce4) and ssh. I have working ssh keys generated and would like to have ssh-add or ssh-askpass or keychain started automatically at x session startup, so I have to type my passphrase only once. Is this easy to do?
[08:40] <CrippsFX> sheepcentral, did you do mediatest when you were done burning, and/or a check on the image before you burned it?
[08:40] <MonsieurBon> does somebody know how i get suspend to disk to work under dapper? it used to work fine with breezy.
[08:40] <thoreauputic> sheepcentral: did you check that the CD is OK ? ( md5sum or use the built in checker on the install screen)
[08:40] <Samus_Aran> sheepcentral: are you able to switch to a text console with Ctrl+Alt+F1 or F2 when it freezes ?
[08:40] <tom22> hi all, i would like to install linux on my pda (Siemens Loox 720). does this work and which distro should i use?
[08:40] <Dreamglider> once in the floppy drive how can i delete all the files on the disk!
[08:41] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, i have installed winxp on my c: and other disks are ntfs
[08:41] <chavo> Tobberoth, mount it at /media/ubuntu, mkdir /media/ubuntu then mount /dev/sda5 /media/ubuntu
[08:41] <Samus_Aran> sheepcentral: and does Ctrl+Alt+Delete reboot the system when it is frozen ?
[08:41] <sheepcentral> I checked the md5 of the iso and it was fine
[08:41] <Tobberoth> ok
[08:41] <Dreamglider> with nautilus
[08:41] <SAM_theman> nevermind
[08:41] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, so i should format them to fat32?
[08:41] <CrippsFX> tom22, I don't know, but google has lots of answers ... you'll probably get stuck with mu-linux
[08:41] <chavo> Tobberoth, then run sudo chroot /mount/ubuntu
[08:41] <sheepcentral> it doesn't reboot when I do ctrl + alt + del and I haven't tried +F1
[08:41] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: you can read from NTFS on GNU/Linux, but you can't write to it.  so the easiest way to share files between Windows and other systems is to have one drive or partition that is FAT32, then both systems can fully use that drive
[08:42] <tom22> crippsfx: thx, i will check it out
[08:42] <klm-> If I want to shutdown my computer properly at 00:00, is this the correct command: sudo shutdown -h 00:00 ?
[08:42] <djcabz> sheepcentral, I would try turing off the apci stuff.
[08:42] <ToHellWithGA> oodze: you don't need to pre-format anything.  the installer will help you get that done properly
[08:42] <CrippsFX> tom22, no problem.
[08:42] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[08:42] <Tobberoth> chavo it says cannot run command bin/bash
[08:42] <Samus_Aran> sheepcentral: me as well.  also disable APIC in the BIOS if you have that option.  I've had that crash things for me on other distros before
[08:42] <sheepcentral> djcabz: sheepcentral, I would try turing off the apci stuff, sorry I'm new to this, explain
[08:42] <Tobberoth> does that mean i put in the wrong partition?
[08:43] <chavo> Tobberoth, yes
[08:43] <sorush20> in kubuntu how can I increase the size of the thumbnail to  more than the maximum?
[08:43] <Tobberoth> okej, trying again
[08:43] <sheepcentral> I don't have the option in my bios
[08:43] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, is it possible to install ubuntu on primary slave or secondary master?
[08:43] <li1> NoUse: thanks
[08:43] <Dreamglider> hof can i format a floppydisk ?
[08:43] <erin> hi all :)  Somehow my lowest touchpad sensitivity clicks half the links I move over, and my lowest volume setting is too loud.  Where can I set them lower?
[08:43] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, and windoze should be on primary master?
[08:43] <Tobberoth> okey chavo, it worked
[08:43] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, am i right?
[08:43] <BuFF> could anyone e-mail me dapper's sources.list to nerenaz@yahoo.com ?
[08:43] <SySBomber> OMFG YES, i got WPA-PSK to work with my BCM4303 finally :D
[08:43] <thoreauputic> sorush20: "more than the maximum" is a contradiction in terms :)
[08:43] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: GNU/Linux distros can be installed to any partition.  some distros can even be installed to a partition inside a file on another filesystem, such as FAT32
[08:43] <ToHellWithGA> SySBomber: translation please
[08:44] <sheepcentral> Also going back Windows screwed my partition table a bit so that might be why it is having problems
[08:44] <SySBomber> ToHellWithGA, my wireless card
[08:44] <djcabz> I haven't install dapper from cd media, but I assume that the cd has an installation method which states no apic or apci or however it is spelleded
[08:44] <Tobberoth> it says root@ubuntu:/#
[08:44] <SySBomber> with encryption
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: the bootloader (GRUB) should be installed to the primary master's MBR (Master Boot Record), this is the normal place for it
[08:44] <chavo> Tobberoth, is your mbr on /dev/sda
[08:44] <Tobberoth> Yes
[08:44] <ToHellWithGA> and BCM4303?
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: it can then boot windows or other operating systems
[08:44] <SySBomber> ToHellWithGA, my wireless card
[08:44] <chavo> then just run grub-install /dev/sda
[08:44] <ToHellWithGA> i havent even tried wireless in linux
[08:44] <HedgeMage> ubotu: tell BuFF about easysource
[08:44] <ArthurBrazil> Is there somewhere i can get install support for LAMP?
[08:44] <SySBomber> Broadcom
[08:44] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, it wiil be done automatically?
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: windows tends to want to live on the primary or secondary master drives, if they are present
[08:44] <leku> !multiple monitors
[08:44] <ubotu> leku: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: as long as you install Windows first, yes
[08:44] <Tobberoth> hmm
[08:44] <Tobberoth> says not found
[08:45] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: it will create the boot menu for you
[08:45] <SySBomber> Broadcom BCM4303 :D
[08:45] <Tobberoth> that /dev/sda
[08:45] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, nice :)
[08:45] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: you just need to make sure you don't install GNU/Linux overtop of where you just installed XP
[08:45] <Tobberoth> I\m trying dev sda1 insted
[08:45] <ToHellWithGA> SySBomber: i have a linksys card sitting in my pc from when i was far from the router
[08:45] <klm-> If I want to shutdown my computer properly at 00:00, is this the correct command: sudo shutdown -h 00:00 ?
[08:45] <ToHellWithGA> now that the router is on my desk i'm wired
[08:45] <chavo> hmm look in /boot/grub/device.mao
[08:45] <Tobberoth> stil doesn\t work
[08:45] <chavo> device.map
[08:45] <leku> is there a faq for xinerama or multiple monitors?
[08:45] <ToHellWithGA> is wireless a pain to set up?
[08:46] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: primary master = /dev/hda, primary slave = /dev/hdb, secondary master = /dev/hdc, secondary slave = /dev/hdd
[08:46] <ToHellWithGA> !wireless
[08:46] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[08:46] <SySBomber> ToHellWithGA, yeah same here but i needed to get wifi working with Linux and i finally did it
[08:46] <BirdieGryphon> Hi, I am having trouble installing XChat with both apt-get and from source. When trying apt-get I get this error: http://pastebin.com/762973. I seem to be getting a similar error when installing other applications, this error appears every time I open the Package Manager: http://pastebin.com/763011. Trying to compile the latest Xchat from source I am given the following error: http://pastebin.com/763028
[08:46] <thoreauputic> !xinerama
[08:46] <ubotu> Check these URLs out and hopefully it works for you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors maybe  http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xfree/Xinerama-HOWTO/
[08:46] <chavo> should be the first one in there
[08:46] <Tobberoth> chavo, what do i open device.map with?
[08:46] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, you gave to me a good message.
[08:46] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: and the first partition is a 1, if you have an extended partition it will put the first logical partition as 5.
[08:46] <chavo> you can use less
[08:46] <leku> thx
[08:46] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: so for example your D: partition on the primary master is /dev/hda5
[08:47] <Tobberoth> it says>
[08:47] <Spec> Seveas: heya, i have a question for you concerning nx... :o), around?
[08:47] <Tobberoth> hd0 /dev/sda
[08:47] <Tobberoth> that makes no sense
[08:47] <Seveas> Spec, yes
[08:47] <Spec> Seveas: Does nx use any other ports except the ssh port?
[08:47] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: and your C: on primary master would be /dev/hda1.  if you have Serial ATA drives, then it will be /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc.
[08:47] <Seveas> Spec, no
[08:47] <kermitX_> birdiegryphon: remove the hoary-backports from your sources.list
[08:48] <Spec> Seveas: Hmm, I'm failing at "Negotiating link parameters" :-/
[08:48] <Spec> when trying to connect
[08:48] <chavo> Tobberoth, yeah that should be working
[08:48] <Seveas> Spec, have you disabled X forwarding?
[08:48] <rongenre> So when I actually installed dapper, it works fine w/ my wired card
[08:48] <rongenre> wifi gives me:  could not get RID for component NIC
[08:48] <Spec> Seveas: not that I know of, how can I check?
[08:48] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: any other questions before I leave ?  I'm going to go try installing Ubuntu 6.06 now
[08:49] <Tobberoth> It still say Not found or not a block device
[08:49] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, i am not so good in typing
[08:49] <Seveas> Spec, check /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[08:49] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, lets make a simple conclusion
[08:49] <att> hi! on dapper "sudo apt-get install build-essentials" says "E: Couldn't find package build-essentials" how can I install build tools?
[08:49] <babo> This was my thread on dapper on one of the forums that I usually thread ... http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=58457  ... what do you think ?
[08:49] <ToHellWithGA> !quodlibet
[08:49] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ToHellWithGA
[08:49] <Seveas> Spec, also: the debug logs are in ~/.nx on the client
[08:49] <Spec> X11Forwarding yes
[08:49] <ToHellWithGA> doh
[08:49] <NoUse> att spell them 'build-essential'
[08:49] <Spec> oh, okay, thanks
[08:49] <Spec> didn't know there were client logs
[08:49] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, first. i have to change shared drives file system to fat 32
[08:49] <lee_> Hi, I've got an issue in Ubuntu where, whenever I'm away from the computer for 15 minutes or so and come back, the monitor and turned black, and I cannot access anything, no matter what I do it stays black. In order to get it functioning again I have to do a hard reset and start it back up... any thoughts?
[08:50] <babo> I think alot of people still have very outdated impressions of linux as an OS ...
[08:50] <SySBomber> lee_, is it set to go standy after 15 mins?
[08:50] <Spec> here's what "details" on the client says: http://pastebin.com/763046
[08:50] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, then i will install on free harddisk ubuntu
[08:50] <babo> mostly the ones who've grown up using windows as an OS ...
[08:50] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: step 1) install xp to primary master, step 2) install ubuntu to one of your other two drives, step 3) convert the remaining drive to fat32 if you want to be able to easily share files between the two operating systems
[08:50] <att> NoUse: thx!
[08:50] <lee_> I don't know... let me see if I can find the setting..
[08:51] <SySBomber> lee_, one sec
[08:51] <lee_> oh I found it
[08:51] <SySBomber> oky :)
[08:51] <lee_> Thanks
[08:51] <SySBomber> Power management?
[08:51] <Tobberoth> this is so annoying lol
[08:51] <lee_> yes
[08:51] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, can the drive with ntfs be convertetd to fat32 within ubuntu?
[08:51] <SySBomber> :)
[08:51] <Samus_Aran> babo: probably because the O/S is nearly unrecognizable every 8 months, heh
[08:51] <lee_> On the "Put Display to sleep...."
[08:51] <SySBomber> hah yeah
[08:51] <SySBomber> mine does that too
[08:51] <SySBomber> dont know why tho
[08:51] <SySBomber> just doesnt want to come back
[08:52] <profoXP> lee_, even so, it *should* work to put the display back up..
[08:52] <profoXP> what computers are you guys running ?
[08:52] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: it can be formatted as fat32, but not converted.  you would lose the data on it
[08:52] <Spec> Seveas: All that I get in the logs are the ones in the pastebin above :-/
[08:52] <lee_> I'm running a laptop
[08:52] <profoXP> SySBomber, lee_, what computers ? laptops ?
[08:52] <sid_> 
[08:52] <SySBomber> yes
[08:52] <babo> yes, but the apt-get distro-upgrade nearly always works perfectly ... ( thank you debian ) ... :-)
[08:52] <lee_> yes
[08:52] <SySBomber> profoXP,
[08:52] <babo> and ubuntu ...
[08:52] <profoXP> SySBomber, lee_, laptops often have problems, although my IBM thinkpad works perfect out of the box without any modification
[08:53] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, thank you, sir.
[08:53] <SySBomber> yeah, im not too bothered to put it into sleep anyway
[08:53] <profoXP> but my Acer does NOT work at all, only after alot of manual configuration, and suspend doesnt work
[08:53] <ooodze> thanks to everybody
[08:53] <ooodze> bye
[08:53] <lee_> Profoxp Yeah, the only problem I have with mine is that. I was amazed when my media keys worked out of the box (most) and my wireless cards
[08:53] <ToHellWithGA> does anybody here know quod libet well?  #quodlibet on OFTC isn't a very helpful place.  i'm trying to get the library to recurse directories
[08:53] <argpirate> Hey my amarok has stop starting, anyway to trouble shoot this? maybe get it to throw out some usefull info? it will start as root.
[08:53] <sheepcentral> I think I have some more info on my problem of the freezing install. I did ctrl+alt+f1 before it froze and I got errors like I/O buffer on device hda1 logical block
[08:54] <sheepcentral> they were something like that anyway
[08:54] <ToHellWithGA> argpirate: have you tried running it from the console?
[08:54] <Konra1> I've got a problem. i installed the ubuntu 6.06 lamp from the server cd. installation worked perfectly but then when grub the first time start the "boot" command causes a pc restart. no errors. and this happens all the time. any idea?
[08:54] <argpirate> yeah thats where i run it from
[08:54] <argpirate> it doesnt say much usefull info
[08:54] <cdubya> ToHellWithGA, I didn't have to do much other than to point in the original library setup to my music folder...it took it from there and setup all the rest....
[08:54] <argpirate> amarokapp has not started maybe something has gone wrong?
[08:54] <argpirate> is waht it is
[08:54] <Tobberoth> chevo would it work do to start grub
[08:55] <profoXP> lee_, jup, 6.06 is a big step forward
[08:55] <Tobberoth> and go root hd0,5
[08:55] <Tobberoth> then setup hd0,0
[08:55] <pvd2006> How well does 64bit dapper work? I need it to install on a friends system for video encoding/decoing
[08:55] <sheepcentral> I think I have some more info on my problem of the freezing install. I did ctrl+alt+f1 before it froze and I got errors like I/O buffer on device hda1 logical block
[08:55] <pvd2006> I dont need flash support or anything like that
[08:55] <argpirate> pvd2006, i would stick to 32bit OSes for a while
[08:55] <ToHellWithGA> cdubya: i have several folders deep on some albums
[08:55] <Bardamu> salut
[08:55] <profoXP> argpirate, did you mess around with permissions ?
[08:55] <Bardamu> hello*
[08:56] <sheepcentral> I think I have some more info on my problem of the freezing install. I did ctrl+alt+f1 before it froze and I got errors like I/O buffer on device hda1 logical block
[08:56] <argpirate> i didnt change any permissions or anything
[08:56] <skippy81> pvd2006: if you can live without flash and unusual apps, then 64bit will be slightly faster for vdeo work
[08:56] <cdubya> ToHellWithGA, yeah, I wondered...I don't go much deeper than a couple, and it handled that fine...not sure if there's any limit on it.....
[08:56] <Konra1> no idea?
[08:56] <jonas3> !xfce
[08:56] <ubotu> from memory, xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[08:56] <pvd2006> argpirate, we need 64bit for encoding.
[08:56] <sheepcentral> I think I have some more info on my problem of the freezing install. I did ctrl+alt+f1 before it froze and I got errors like I/O buffer on device hda1 logical block
[08:56] <pvd2006> skippy81, dont need flash, and what do you mean by unusual apps
[08:56] <pvd2006> ?
[08:56] <sheepcentral> I think I have some more info on my problem of the freezing install. I did ctrl+alt+f1 before it froze and I got errors like I/O buffer on device hda1 logical block
[08:57] <mwe> pvd2006: there are some issues with multimedia on 64 bit
[08:57] <ToHellWithGA> sheepcentral: you said that already
[08:57] <skippy81> pvd2006 anything which is ONLY availiable in an i386 package will be hard to get going without a 32bit chroot - old games, obscure software etc
[08:57] <pvd2006> oh, we plan on installing everything by source
[08:58] <pvd2006> to get the potential of 64bit
[08:58] <Konra1> I've got a problem. i installed the ubuntu 6.06 lamp from the server cd. installation worked perfectly but then when grub the first time start the "boot" command causes a pc restart. no errors. and this happens all the time. any idea?
[08:58] <mwe> pvd2006: why not use a source based distro then?
[08:58] <skippy81> pvd2006: yeah you could do gentoo
[08:58] <XVampireX> ANYONE KNOW ANY PROGRAM FOR GNOME SIMILAR TO KATAPULT?
[08:58] <jak> !CAPS
[08:58] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[08:58] <XVampireX> Sorry, was here a few minutes ago
[08:58] <skippy81> its actually a very easy distro - just takes a stupid amount of time to compile stuff
[08:59] <XVampireX> And no one answered me
[08:59] <profoXP> Why is suspend-to-ram not showing up on my pentium4/nvidia/acpi pc ?
[08:59] <Seveas> XVampireX, that's no reason to shout...
[08:59] <jak> XVampireX: well then maybe there isnt an answer
[08:59] <Tobberoth> this uis so gay! how the hell am I to know if Partition 6 is hd0,5 or if its hd0,2?
[08:59] <kbrooks_> skippy81: show some examples where gentoo is easy
[08:59] <kbrooks_> Tobberoth: easy.
[08:59] <XVampireX> Well, I saw some clip with xgl demonstration and I saw something similar to katapult
[08:59] <XVampireX> in ubuntu
[08:59] <kbrooks_> Tobberoth: hda2 = hd(0,2)
[08:59] <kbrooks_> Tobberoth: erm
[08:59] <Tobberoth> hmm.. okthanks
[09:00] <jak> XVampireX: why don't you just install Katapult on Gnome
[09:00] <pvd2006> mwe, that is out of the question, I am not experienced enough for such a distro as ive already tried, and it takes a ridiculous amount of work to get anything done, lol.
[09:00] <kbrooks_> Tobberoth: let me rephrase
[09:00] <skippy81> kbrooks_:  you just insert an installation CD - print out the 60 page handboook and it really is step by step
[09:00] <mwe> pvd2006: huh?
[09:00] <XVampireX> jak: That works?
[09:00] <cdubya> ToHellWithGA, so if you try to use the music > Add Folder, it won't go deep enough in your dirs?
[09:00] <mwe> pvd2006: gentoo is noob friendly
[09:00] <kbrooks_> Tobberoth: hda1 = hd(0,0)
[09:00] <Tobberoth> yeah
[09:00] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: step 1) check if the process is still running, but stalled in the background and kill it if it is, step 2) temporarily rename your amarok directory in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/ and try reloading it
[09:00] <kbrooks_> Tobberoth: hda2 = hd(0,1)
[09:00] <skippy81> kbrooks_:  im not a linux expert and i found genoo rediculously straightforward
[09:00] <jak> XVampireX: I have K3b running on Gnome.. thats a KDE app
[09:00] <kbrooks_> Tobberoth: hda3 = hd(0,2)
[09:00] <ToHellWithGA> cdubya: it's putting the deepest stuff in the "unknown album" area
[09:00] <pvd2006> mwe, I dont understand all the package options that it asks me about.
[09:00] <Tobberoth> so sda6 must be hd0,5?
[09:00] <cdubya> ewww
[09:00] <XVampireX> *shrugs*
[09:00] <kbrooks_> Tobberoth: no, sd0,5
[09:01] <argpirate> Samus_Aran, yeah i tired that no dice...
[09:01] <kbrooks_> Tobberoth: parens required
[09:01] <argpirate> thanks though
[09:01] <mwe> pvd2006: then you wont understand ubuntu either
[09:01] <Tobberoth> you sure? Ive heard grub says hd about both sata and pata
[09:01] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: so are there processes running still ?
[09:01] <ToHellWithGA> mwe: that's harsh man
[09:01] <BirdieGryphon> Hi again, I am still having no luck installing XChat with apt-get after removing hoary-backports as I was asked to, when I attempt to install it I am told Xchat is already at it's latest version but clearly it's not as it is version 2.4.4. An exact error: www.pastebin.com/763077
[09:01] <skippy81> Tobberoth:  the golden rule is "computers count from zero - people count from 1"
[09:01] <kbrooks_> Tobberoth: ask #grub
[09:01] <argpirate> nopers
[09:01] <Technel> I am planning on using Ubuntu for web development, so the auto-LAMP feature would be helpful found in the server edition, but I need a GUI as well. What exactly is the difference between the two versions?
[09:01] <ToHellWithGA> pvd2006: you don't have to understand ubuntu to use it.  you just have to take time to learn.
[09:02] <ToHellWithGA> pvd2006: if you're rushed i wouldn't try to hop in headfirst
[09:02] <skippy81> BirdieGryphon:  apt-get remove it and then apt-get install it
[09:02] <pvd2006> mwe, ubuntu is much easier than gentoo, by a lot. I understand basic stuff like compilikng stuff with make and such, and some command line, but I dont understand when gentoo throws a thousand questions at me.
[09:02] <BirdieGryphon> skippy81: thankyou, I will try that now.
[09:02] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: step 3) open a terminal, run: strace amarok 2>&1|egrep -i '(denied|unable)'
[09:02] <jak> Technel: You could just install the normal install, then install LAMP..
[09:02] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: see if it is having permission problems opening something
[09:02] <argpirate> ah
[09:03] <argpirate> hrm
[09:03] <cdubya> ToHellWithGA, heh, guess I never scrolled down that far....I have an unknown list as well.....heh
[09:03] <mwe> pvd2006: it does? it didn't for me. I just did emerge kde for example. it's off topic though.
[09:03] <Technel> jak, alright
[09:03] <cdubya> I just always play what I've got because I never make it through it all anyway :)
[09:03] <argpirate> some stuff in /etc/qt3/
[09:03] <mwe> pvd2006: do what you like. I just don't think it's the best option that's all
[09:03] <skippy81> pvd2006:  ok well this is an ubuntu room and im sure most of us would prefer you used ubuntu anyway :) but i do suggest you take a peep at the "Gentoo Handbook", the only reason is because gentoo allow the use of various 64bit optimisation flags when you compile
[09:03] <argpirate> some lock files
[09:03] <argpirate> lipstick qtrc
[09:03] <argpirate> lock files
[09:03] <answerguy> Is there a LAMJ (Java) environment in the works for Ubuntu?
[09:03] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: if that shows nothing, then just run "strace amarok" and see if it is stuck in some sort of loop.  you might see a file it is waiting for, or that it keeps trying to open.  if it works as root, it suggests it is a permission problem
[09:04] <ToHellWithGA> i installed an album art plugin but it went and pissed me off.  instead of using a database it put .jpg images in my music folders
[09:04] <ToHellWithGA> other than that quod has been great
[09:04] <argpirate> yeah it looks like its having issues with these lock files, im gonna kill em
[09:04] <rikai> pvd2006: from-source builds arent for the weak of heart. ;)
[09:04] <cdubya> yeah, I like quod
[09:04] <cdubya> It works better for me than rhythmbox did...
[09:05] <jak> Technel: Then follow this... theres a lot of extra stuff on there though https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:05] <Konra1> I've got a problem. i installed the ubuntu 6.06 lamp from the server cd. installation worked perfectly but then when grub the first time start the "boot" command causes a pc restart. no errors. and this happens all the time. any idea?
[09:05] <cdubya> ToHellWithGA, I had that installed, too.....heh
[09:05] <Nolt> HI
[09:05] <skippy81> hey i just had a thought - can you have a 64bit chroot inside a 32bit system - probably a dumb question lol ?
[09:05] <Technel> jak, Cool, thanks.
[09:05] <cdubya> it ended up getting a little annoying....so I removed it
[09:05] <Nolt> somebody can give me a tip with good like filezilla on windows good client ftp for linux ? with gui ?
[09:05] <Spec> Seveas: ah, i had to enable SSL traffic
[09:06] <rikai> i like amarok myself, despite the fact that i'm a gnome-user. :D
[09:06] <Spec> Seveas: thanks for the packages, you rock :)
[09:06] <ToHellWithGA> yeah i didn't reinstall it when i stepped up to dapper
[09:06] <Nolt> anybody ?
[09:06] <ToHellWithGA> i do like the pyql announce script for xchat though.  i'd just get banned for spamming in here
[09:07] <ToHellWithGA> Nolt: you need a secure ftp client?
[09:07] <ToHellWithGA> or just an ftp client
[09:07] <Tobberot1> I think i'm going to give up. I've been working on this all day
[09:07] <Tobberot1> and now it won't recognize any devices or anything
[09:07] <skippy81> Nolt:  you could try "gftp-gtk"
[09:07] <Nolt> ToHellWithGA: i need good client
[09:07] <Nolt> yea i know skippy81 about gftp but i dont like it much
[09:07] <answerguy> 64-bit chroot in a 32-bit system: you couldn't run anything in it unless you had a 64-bit processor.
[09:08] <Nolt> there is similar to filezilla ftp client for ubuntu ?
[09:08] <ToHellWithGA> Nolt: apt-cache search ftp |grep client
[09:08] <Konra1> I've got a problem. i installed the ubuntu 6.06 lamp from the server cd. installation worked perfectly but then when grub the first time start the "boot" command causes a pc restart. no errors. and this happens all the time. any idea?
[09:08] <ToHellWithGA> i see about 30 results.  surely one is good
[09:08] <answerguy> But if you had a 64-bit processor and kernel I suppose you could, theoretically, install the 32-bit userspace; and then a chroot containing a 64-bit userspace.  Sounds pretty whacky and stupid though
[09:08] <Samus_Aran> Konra1: I would first off try disabling things in the BIOS that might possibly be causing the kernel problems.  e.g. disable power management/acpi, apic, turbo mode for ram/agp, etc. and then just try again.  if it still does it, not sure.  for me, the only times I've had spontaneous reboots like that were due to faulty hardware, which the linux kernel caught and barfed on.
[09:08] <skippy81> Nolt:  google for ftpcube
[09:09] <jak> answerguy: i have amd64 with i386 install, the amd64 chroot would let me run amd64 programs?
[09:09] <Samus_Aran> Konra1: you said it get past the grub menu, right ?  as in, it starts to boot the kernel ?
[09:09] <answerguy> I think you'd need to jam a 64-bit kernel unto it.
[09:09] <Konra1> samus: hmm this is a really old machine. amd k6 200mhz and about 64 mb ram. there is no acpi to deactivate
[09:09] <Nolt> skippy81: i have instaled but it dont works :P
[09:09] <answerguy> ... and that might entail some breakage to some other parts of your 32-bit (i386) installation
[09:09] <Konra1> no not really i think
[09:10] <jbirdAngel> im on kubuntu trying to install gnome with Adept it is on 0% preparing and seems to be stuck, waht should i do?
[09:10] <jak> maybe i'll shove another partition on here to try it
[09:10] <Konra1> the kernel and initrd command works
[09:10] <skippy81> Nolt:  you might be out of luck then - i dont think linux is really known for its user friendly ftp clients :(
[09:10] <answerguy> you'd be much better off doing a fresh 64-bit install
[09:10] <CrippsFX> I found an answer to my problem.
[09:10] <Samus_Aran> Konra1: heh.  hm.  so what do you see of GRUB before it reboots ?
[09:10] <Nolt> hehe
[09:10] <CrippsFX> fuser -v /dev/dsp told me what was hijacking ALSA ... so I just had to kill it.
[09:10] <answerguy> Mozilla makes a find FTP client. :)
[09:10] <jak> not everything works nice enough with 64bit though
[09:11] <answerguy> fine, even
[09:11] <Konra1> i see the kernel message the initrd message, savedefault and boot
[09:11] <ToHellWithGA> answerguy: no wai
[09:11] <answerguy> jak So run some 32-bit stuff under it; or create a 32-bit chroot thereunder
[09:11] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know off-hand if the 6.06 works on actual 386s, or if it is built for i586 or i686 or what ?
[09:11] <ToHellWithGA> you actually use in-browser ftp?
[09:11] <answerguy> ToHellWithGA Way, man.
[09:11] <argpirate> Samus_Aran, it looks like amarok wants write perms in /etc/qt3 is that normal?
[09:11] <mwe> jbirdAngel: I'd try from the terminal with aptitude install ubuntu-desktop to see what's goin on
[09:11] <jak> hmmmmm....
[09:11] <answerguy> Sure ... why not?
[09:11] <ToHellWithGA> downloading long lists of files, for one
[09:12] <mwe> jbirdAngel: sudo aptitude ...
[09:12] <answerguy> Or I use mc (midnight commander)
[09:12] <jbirdAngel> mwe: is that what i type in
[09:12] <jbirdAngel> mwe: okay tanks
[09:12] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: no, it shouldn't be trying to write anything to /etc
[09:12] <jak> theres nothing wrong with gftp!
[09:12] <mwe> jbirdAngel: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[09:12] <bartman_> Hello! I'm rather new to kernel compilation and am wodering if there are any Ubuntu-specific patches i should be aware of? My first kernel produced a blank screen up to the loading of the X server.
[09:12] <Konra1> samus?
[09:12] <argpirate> it gives this error open("/etc/qt3/.lipstikstylerc.lock", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_LAR                               CES (Permission denied)
[09:12] <argpirate> several of them
[09:12] <jbirdAngel> mwe: okay thank you
[09:12] <mark_> hello everyone
[09:12] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: that's just where it gets its default config files, if the user doesn't have one already.
[09:13] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! Please help me! Is Cinelerra 2.0 video editor avaiable for Dapper? Where can I download it in package?
[09:13] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:13] <argpirate> ah i figured since it was a .lock file it was doing something else
[09:13] <Sp4rKy> does i915resolution is in the repositories ?
[09:13] <Samus_Aran> Konra1: does the server one use bootsplash ?  (the GUI startup screen)
[09:13] <ToHellWithGA> hi ltibor65. hi Sp4rKy
[09:13] <Konra1> no
[09:13] <ToHellWithGA> Sp4rKy: it is.
[09:13] <Sp4rKy> hi ToHellWithGA
[09:13] <mwe> Sp4rKy: yes
[09:13] <skippy81> bartman_:  heres the reason:- you didnt enable framebuffer support when you compiled the kernel - therefore usplash had no framebuffer to draw onto :)
[09:13] <Konra1> but i think the lamp hasnt got something like that
[09:13] <Sp4rKy> ToHellWithGA, i didn't see it
[09:13] <mwe> Sp4rKy: in dapper it is
[09:14] <Sp4rKy> i'm over dapper :/
[09:14] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: hm, I'm not sure why a user app would be trying to open such a file read-write
[09:14] <sladen> Samus_Aran: usplash.  All in userspace
[09:14] <mwe> !info 915resolution
[09:14] <Konra1> in vmware there was no splash screen
[09:14] <mark_> can someone help a newb?
[09:14] <mark_> I am in need of some serious help right now
[09:14] <bartman_> skippy81, how silly of me! :P  But that's part of the problem - I have no idea what to disable/enable!
[09:14] <Sp4rKy> root@Sp4rKy-laptop (21:13) /home/max/yersinia/yersinia2 #apt-cache search i915
[09:14] <Sp4rKy> xserver-xorg-driver-i810 - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
[09:14] <skippy81> bartman_:  np mate, im finding you a post about it
[09:14] <mark_> this is my first installation of any linux platform..(installing ubuntu)
[09:15] <Samus_Aran> sladen: oh.  haven't heard of that one before.  thanks for the correction
[09:15] <jbirdAngel> mwe: after that what else do i have to do to be using ubuntu instead of kubuntu
[09:15] <ToHellWithGA> Sp4rKy: try 915resolution
[09:15] <mwe> Sp4rKy: 915resolution is in universe
[09:15] <Sp4rKy> yes
[09:15] <Sp4rKy> i'm searching i915 :/ thx
[09:15] <Flannel> mark_: it's best to just ask your question, if someone can answer it, they will.
[09:15] <bartman_> skippy81, i followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064&highlight=kernel+patches
[09:15] <ToHellWithGA> sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[09:15] <Samus_Aran> Konra1: does it get as far as "mounting root filesystem" ?
[09:15] <aesxa> Hi. I like to downgrade to Xorg 6.9. How do I do this? I know it's a bad idea kthx
[09:15] <sladen> Sp4rKy: "915resolution".  no 'i'
[09:15] <mwe> jbirdAngel: well at next boot you can choose gnome at the login screen. to switch to gdm do sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:15] <mark_> can someone help me please?
[09:15] <Konra1> no
[09:16] <BirdieGryphon> Okay, after removing the old xchat and attempting to use apt-get to get the latest version via that, it asks for my Ubuntu CD to be in the disc tray, if I insert it, it installs the older version, when I want the latest. Exact message: http://pastebin.com/763132
[09:16] <sladen> mark_: just ask your question
[09:16] <keir> has anyone had problems with their multimedia keys suddenly not working? when i start up gnome complains that the x settings are different than the gnome settings; i hit use gnome settings and now none of the multimedia keys even report events with xev
[09:16] <ToHellWithGA> mark_: you have to ask your question
[09:16] <mwe> !tell mark_ about helpme
[09:16] <ToHellWithGA> nobody can help until they know what you need
[09:16] <jbirdAngel> mwe: what does gdm stand for? and thats ubuntu instead of kubuntu and id just have to uninstall kubuntu?
[09:16] <jbirdAngel> er kde
[09:16] <Samuli^> BirdieGryphon, take your cd out of the repositories.
[09:16] <Farhad> hi to all
[09:16] <Flannel> BirdieGryphon: remove the CD from your repository list, (and add web ones)
[09:17] <skippy81> bartman_:  the fact you have a booting system suggests you did a good job :) however if you look here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560&highlight=kernel.org and scroll down to "dpickers" post, you will see he has identified the options you need to choose for framebuffer support
[09:17] <mwe> jbirdAngel: gdm is the gnome login manager
[09:17] <sladen> keir: multimedia keys are different with every laptop.  Please file a bug against 'hotkey-setup' if they don't work
[09:17] <Flannel> jbirdAngel: gnome display manager, there is a kdm, they're the login screens
[09:17] <mark_> I installed ubuntu last night, everything seemed to run fine until I logged in after installation and it said to me, HAL FAILED TO INITIALIZE...
[09:17] <mwe> jbirdAngel: you can keep using the kde one, kdm, though
[09:17] <ToHellWithGA> Flannel: how do you remove the CD from the repository?
[09:17] <mark_> so I can close that and everything seems to work fine..
[09:17] <mark_> but it is awfully slow, sometimes taking 30 seconds to load firefox..
[09:17] <mwe> jbirdAngel: if you don't want to keep kde you can uninstall it yes
[09:17] <Farhad> when i set my vga setting to 800x600 32 or 640X480 32 or 16
[09:17] <sladen> jbirdAngel: gnome-display-manager.  It's a display manager, but can be used with KDE just fine
[09:17] <ltibor65> Hi Seveas! Where can I download Cinelerra 2.0 for Dapper?
[09:17] <captine> if i d/l dapper, can i upgrade breezy from the cd using apt?  or must i go through the partitioning etc?
[09:17] <Flannel> ToHellWithGA: go to your repositories setup, and uncheck the CD.
[09:17] <keir> sladen, yes, but they *did* work originally; only after i turned on evdev for my mouse (and subsequently turned it off) btw this is a desktop with ms wireless desktop pro
[09:18] <sheepcentral> Hi again, I tried turning off APIC and all I got was 3 line error messages per error rather than 1 line messages
[09:18] <jbirdAngel> mwe , Flannel , and sladen thank you
[09:18] <argpirate> Samus_Aran, it looks like changing my style fixed it....
[09:18] <Samuli^> ToHellWithGA, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:18] <mwe> jbirdAngel: to remove kde sudo apt-get --purge remove kdelibs kdelibs-bin
[09:18] <sladen> keir: please file a bug and we'll debug it there.  Please mention in the bug exactly what you did
[09:18] <mark_> so I am trying to figure out, #1 how to remove the error that HAL keeps failing to initialize...and #2 if that has anything to do with the slow loading applications (if it doesnt then I need help getting thsi to run faster)
[09:18] <Flannel> Samuli^: why?  there's a GUI way to disable/enable ;)
[09:18] <mwe> jbirdAngel: but you can keep both if you like
[09:18] <Farhad> when boot complete my vga is't on 800x600 32 or 640X480 32 or 16
[09:18] <Samuli^> Flannel, gedit has a gui :)
[09:19] <skippy81> bartman_:  basically you have to make you compile VESA VGA graphics support, VGA console and Framebuffer into the kernel
[09:19] <jbirdAngel> mwe: okay thanks, and then it will be just as if i installed ubuntu from the disc?
[09:19] <mwe> jbirdAngel: in case you decide to stay with kde after trying gnome
[09:19] <bartman_> skippy81, thanks, I'll look through this
[09:19] <Flannel> Samuli^: right, but gedit requires him to know the file structure, the GUI way requires him to uncheck the CD, and check the other ones.
[09:19] <skippy81> bartman_:  np
[09:19] <jbirdAngel> mwe: ya thanks
[09:19] <mark_> ?
[09:19] <mwe> jbirdAngel: yes
[09:19] <sladen> mark_: what spec is your machine?  How much RAM do you have?  Do you have any swap-space.  Is DNS setup correctly on your network
[09:19] <jbirdAngel> mwe: okay kool thank you
[09:19] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: strange.  anyhow, "strace" is a really useful tool for finding out why apps are b0rking out.  it's unfortunate it is not a bit more friendly
[09:19] <jak> ltibor65: go to the website, download the rpm, run "sudo alien whatever-its-called.rpm"
[09:19] <sheepcentral> so can anyone help?
[09:19] <argpirate> yeah i noticed that
[09:19] <jak> then "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[09:19] <argpirate> ive never used strace
[09:19] <Nolt> anybody needs verlihub.deb ? ive compiled it today
[09:19] <sladen> Farhad: is this in X, or on the console?
[09:19] <Samuli^> flannel, so you think it's bad idea for him to know where the sources.list is located? the actual file is well documented to see how to disable cd-rom
[09:20] <argpirate> but that command you gave me was cryptic as hell
[09:20] <Konra1> hmm, bye
[09:20] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: I would like to see a "debug program" icon, which runs strace on an app with full syntax highlighting and tons of friendly filters
[09:20] <skippy81> sheepcentral:  howabout "noapic nolapic acpi=off"
[09:20] <stevejesus> write a new program guys.  its called apt-get-out-of-here-dude.  just edit your evictions.list and your ready to go.  its for landlords.  : )
[09:20] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: e.g. if it would let you go "show only permission denied messages", "show only files opened for writing", etc.
[09:20] <stevejesus> im lying
[09:20] <Samus_Aran> argpirate: maybe I should work on the app =p
[09:20] <mark_> sladen: my machine is a 3ghz pentium 4..1 gig of ram...200gb hardrive...not sure about swap-space or if my DNS is setup correctly on my network..
[09:20] <sladen> jak / ltibor65 : can you file a bug that you'd like to see it directly included in Ubuntu universe
[09:20] <argpirate> yeah, that would be nice, i would have never guess a style change would fix that if not for strace
[09:20] <Farhad> how i can change resolution from terminal????????/
[09:20] <skippy81> stevejesus:  i think they use that application on "Big Brother" in the UK :)
[09:20] <argpirate> heh, i bet it wouldnt be horribly hard to write
[09:20] <mark_> sladen: my network is a linksys...
[09:21] <argpirate> if you knew strace well
[09:21] <sladen> Farhad: is this for X?  or on your console
[09:21] <jak> Kino works fine for me
[09:21] <sheepcentral> skippy81: Where do I put it, I'm a linux n00b
[09:21] <stevejesus> skippy81, never seen it.
[09:21] <skippy81> sheepcentral:  are you trying to boot the live cd?
[09:21] <stevejesus> skippy81, im tv stupid
[09:21] <sladen> mark_: if you type  host www.ubuntu.com  into a termainl, how quickly does it give you a response.  less than 1 second, or considerably more than one second
[09:21] <sheepcentral> yes
[09:21] <ltibor65> jak, is rpm package good for ubuntu?
[09:21] <sheepcentral> skippy81: yes
[09:22] <skippy81> stevejesus:  good for you mate, Big Brother is the most mind numbing rubbish on TV at the moment IMO :)
[09:22] <jak> nopes, its good for fedora
[09:22] <sladen> ltibor65: 'alien' converts an RPM into a mostly-suitable .dev
[09:22] <jak> but alien truns it from rpm to deb. and debs are gooooood
[09:22] <sheepcentral> skippy81:I had it going before but the install kept freezing starting step 5 of 6
[09:22] <sladen> ltibor65: .deb
[09:22] <mwe> Farhad: xrandr. for the console it can only be set at boot time
[09:22] <Farhad> sladen: X
[09:22] <mlowe> !dmix
[09:22] <ubotu> from memory, dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:22] <mark_> sladen: what do you mean..just open up a terminal and type in www.ubuntu.com?
[09:22] <aesxa> Hi, I want to use Xorg 6.8.2 with Dapper : (
[09:23] <skippy81> sheepcentral:  ok you need to press either F5 or F6 i think, and it will let you type in stuff as kernel parameters, type "noapic nolapic acpi=off" onto the end of teh parameters line
[09:23] <stevejesus> yeah, alien did good for me.  got a shady keylogger working in ubuntu for me
[09:23] <mark_> sladen: I did that and it just gives me an error saying command now found
[09:23] <jak> does anyone know if DRI works with Xinerama?
[09:23] <argpirate> aesxa, why?
[09:23] <Flannel> Samuli^: I think it's best for him to not need to know about the sources list yet, he can learn later when he's more comfortable with editing things, why force him to do that now?  the GUI does everything you need to add any arbitrary respoitories.
[09:23] <sheepcentral> thx
[09:23] <mark_> sladen: and it gives that error pretty fast
[09:23] <sladen> mark_:  'host'  is the command to turn a DNS name into a number
[09:23] <Samus_Aran> okay, I'm off to try 6.06 now
[09:23] <aesxa> argpirate, because mplayer with vo=x11 runs very slowly on Xorg 7.
[09:23] <skippy81> sheepcentral:  dont delete the parameters which are allready there, like "boot" etc, just type those words in at the end
[09:23] <skippy81> sheepcentral: no gaurantee it will work for you, but worth a shot mate
[09:23] <Samus_Aran> btw, I love Ubuntu's numbering scheme.  so much more sensible than most, heh.  you know exactly how old it is by glancing at your install CD
[09:23] <sladen> mark_: try    'host www.ubuntu.com'   (or www.google.com, or www.something.com')
[09:24] <Samuli^> Flannel, yeah, but it's the hard way.
[09:24] <mark_> sladen: it says www.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.166
[09:24] <sladen> mark_: did it do this in less than a second?
[09:24] <wastrel> ubuntu
[09:24] <Farhad> my monitor do'nt support 1024x768 , now i want when my ubuntu boot with 1024x768 , i want change it in consol
[09:24] <mark_> sladen: and it gave that messages in under a second almost as fast as I pushed enter
[09:24] <Samus_Aran> aesxa: why do you not have an accellerated MPlayer output plugin ?
[09:24] <mark_> sladen: yes way less than a second
[09:24] <sladen> mark_: okay, so not your DNS.  Do you have any extensions installed in firefox?
[09:25] <skippy81> Farhad:  if you monitor doesnt support a resolution, dont use it
[09:25] <aesxa> Samus_Aran, I don't know, I think I do? xv doesn't work though, I have it, but mplayer crashes, complaining the X returned BadAlloc
[09:25] <mark_> sladen: no this is a brand new install...haven't installed anything extra..
[09:25] <Samus_Aran> Farhad: if your monitor is on when you boot, Xorg should detect its maximum resolution, and not use unsupported modes
[09:25] <sladen> Farhad: if you montior doesn't suppor 1024x768, we can't make it support it
[09:25] <mark_> sladen: and its not just firefox that is slow...its any application starting up
[09:25] <Samus_Aran> aesxa: what video card do you have ?
[09:25] <ltibor65> sladen, I just tried a cinelerra deb package from cvs, but it has too many dependencies, it want the newest version in everithing, in libc6 too. This is very risky.
[09:25] <argpirate> aesxa, it seems to work pretty well on my system, maybe you have another issue?
[09:25] <Samus_Aran> aesxa: you almost never want to use x11, it uses tons of CPU
[09:25] <Scorpmoon> doesnt ctrl+c/ctrl+p copypaste in linux?
[09:25] <sladen> Farhad: however, your monitor maybe giving incorrect information, in which case you'll need to override it
[09:25] <zombieReagan> mysqld  Ver 4.1.12-Debian_1ubuntu3.4-log for pc-linux-gnu on i486 (Source distribution)
[09:25] <zombieReagan> whoops
[09:25] <mark_> sladen: most apps run fine when I am in them..but loading time is horrific..
[09:26] <Farhad> my monitor in AST SVGA , 12 year ago
[09:26] <sladen> mark_: type  'top'  do you see any applicatino at the top of the list
[09:26] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: depends on the app
[09:26] <Scorpmoon> firefox textarea
[09:26] <stevejesus> this has nothing to do with the topic
[09:26] <Otacon22> someone can send me in private the socket irc ban syntax?
[09:26] <Flannel> Scorpmoon: it'd be v anyway. for paste.
[09:26] <stevejesus> but i made a good joke
[09:26] <stevejesus> ready?
[09:26] <Scorpmoon> doesn't work!
[09:26] <stevejesus> what has 9 arms, and sucks.
[09:26] <aesxa> Samus_Aran, GeForce 4 Ti4200. Yeah yeah I know, but my video card is broken, it became crippled in a tragic overclocking accident. Regardless, vo=x11 worked on 6.8 so I wanna go back to that, because video is one of the main things I do.
[09:26] <sladen> mark_: what machine do you have.  can you check for errors in    sudo tail -f /var/log/messages
[09:26] <Flannel> Scorpmoon: try ctrl-shift-C and -V
[09:27] <jak> stevejesus: i dunno, what does?
[09:27] <stevejesus> def leppard!
[09:27] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: GNU/Linux systems have 3 separate copy and paste buffers.  the first one is in text mode using a program called GPM.  the second one is in graphics mode (X) when you drag your mouse over any text, it is copied as soon as you highlight it, use Middle-click to paste that buffer
[09:27] <skippy81> lol
[09:27] <jak> lol
[09:27] <mark_> sladen: nope nothing besides xorg only using like 3.2 percent
[09:27] <captine> what is the difference between the alternate CD and desktop one i.e. can i use the alternate cd to upgrade ubuntu on one machine, and do a fresh desktop installation on another?
[09:27] <mark_> sladen: also minimizing things looks like its a bit slower
[09:27] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: the third buffer is the application one, which is up to the app how to assign.  most use Ctrl+C for that buffer to copy, and Ctrl+V to paste.
[09:28] <Farhad> "override it" it is't my answer
[09:28] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: if you try to paste into a terminal window, it normally only uses the second style of buffer, so Ctrl+V won't work.  use middle-click (or shift+insert ususally does the same)
[09:28] <skippy81> captine:  yes you could, they both contain what you need to upgrade, only difference is the method used for fresh installs
[09:28] <Scorpmoon> i figured
[09:28] <Scorpmoon> select with left, paste with middle
[09:28] <sladen> mark_: what driver is your video card using?
[09:28] <mark_> sladen: I installed ubuntu last night..got the error HAL FAILED TO INITIALIZE when I login..I reinstalled again this morning and had same problem...
[09:28] <Farhad> VGA menu in boot, does not work!
[09:28] <mark_> sladen: how can I tell which driver its using
[09:28] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: the only problem with that highlight-to-copy buffer is as soon as the window where it is highlighted is closed, the buffer is deleted
[09:29] <captine> skippy81: thnx.  so would it be best to just get the alternate?
[09:29] <sladen> Farhad: sounds like your monitor is very old.  It is probably not possible to do 1024x768
[09:29] <jak> how do i get 3d working with xinerama, or do i have to switch off xinerama everytime i want to use a opengl app?
[09:29] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: there are also many apps that will automatically duplicate the two X buffers.  so if you copy with Ctrl+C, it copies it to the middle-click buffer, and vice versa
[09:29] <Geoffrey2> I've managed to get my wireless card active, and in the network manager I can see the wireless network, but I can't connect to it...any suggestions on what to check out?
[09:30] <skippy81> captine:  the "desktop install" is handy because it can run as a live CD and let you test your hardware - but "alternative" has a more powerful and relieable install method IMO
[09:30] <Nolt> dam*** this gfpt makes me mad, when i try delete somthin and this folder have more than 1k files gftp crashes .......
[09:30] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: and there are apps for Gnome and KDE which do the same at all times, by monitoring the buffers for changes and syncing them
[09:30] <Scorpmoon> confusion is total
[09:30] <jbirdAngel> Geoffrey2: you have WEP protection or something?
[09:30] <[NP] Tangent> hah! I just found the coolest app on Ubuntu
[09:30] <skippy81> captine:  if you only want to use it as a source fro an upgrade then either will be just as good
[09:30] <Scorpmoon> my wife is bitching at me already for putting her on linux, and now I have to teach her several copy paste methods..
[09:30] <skippy81> [NP] Tangent:  what is that then?
[09:31] <Farhad> sladen: now, what must i do
[09:31] <Scorpmoon> i thought ubuntu was userfriendly :)
[09:31] <ToHellWithGA> i'm here for help rather than to chat or to help now.  a quod libet plugin i want to use is not working
[09:31] <Geoffrey2> I did, and it would ask me for the key, which I cut and pasted, but it wouldn't connect...so I shut off WEP to see if that was the problem..now I doesn't ask me for a key, but still won't connect
[09:31] <mark_> sladen: I can't find out how to view what video driver I am using
[09:31] <[NP] Tangent> skippy81: duh! it's Adour!
[09:31] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: the older style buffer was the one that was always used, drag-to-copy, middle-click-to-paste .. but it is lost the instant that window closes.  so it is very annoying to work with (pop up an ID3 tag info in XMMS, copy the track title, close the dialog, try to paste it and you can't), so they started using the other method
[09:31] <skippy81> Scorpmoon:  just remember to use control SHIFT and v when pasting into a terminal
[09:31] <[NP] Tangent> er
[09:31] <[NP] Tangent> Ardour
[09:31] <captine> skippy81: you say either will work for upgrade.  the site seems to suggest to do upgrade using apt, one needs the alternative, and not the desktop.  I've ordered the desktop and live cd, so will prob just d/l the alternative to be safe
[09:31] <captine> skippy81: thnks again for the help
[09:31] <ToHellWithGA> http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/62664
[09:31] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: problem is many older apps, especially terminals, only support the drag-to-copy buffer
[09:32] <judah> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:32] <ydnar> does anyone have experience with counter-strike:source on ubuntu?
[09:32] <jbirdAngel> Geoffrey2: okay i dunno, but for me with WEP i was putting in the key, but NetworkManager wants the passphrase, not the key, so it wants the phrase that was used to create the key
[09:32] <Scorpmoon> ctrl+shift+v is a bad key combination, ergonomically
[09:32] <sladen> Farhad: buy a new monitor.  Your current monitor is too old.  It *cannot* do 1024x768
[09:32] <stevejesus> or use your 3rd mouse button
[09:32] <jbirdAngel> Geoffrey2: and you would have had to turn it off on your router or such also for it to work
[09:32] <LasseL> anyone tried ripping dvds on dapper?
[09:32] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: another example is the old "xfontsel" app
[09:32] <sladen> LasseL: lalalala
[09:32] <Samuli^> LasseL, yeah.
[09:32] <jbirdAngel> Geoffrey2: just in case you didnt
[09:32] <stevejesus> i have a 17inch monitor that will do 1733x13xx but i cant seem to make it happen.
[09:32] <Scorpmoon> i've no clue, first time linux user here
[09:32] <Samuli^> LasseL, dvd::rip
[09:33] <Samus_Aran> skippy81: for terminals, use Shift+Insert
[09:33] <skippy81> captine:  im pretty sure you can upgrade with the desktop - but if you have doubts then alternative is the way to go
[09:33] <Farhad> Ok, my monitor does not support 1024x768, well , now i want work in 800x600, what must i do?
[09:33] <Samus_Aran> skippy81: if you don't want to middle-click
[09:33] <mark_> sladen: want to talk in private message..
[09:33] <scr> i was wondering if someone could lend me a hand with installing windows after ubuntu
[09:33] <stevejesus> it will do 16oox1200 sometimes.  but in this version or dapper i cant make it happen
[09:33] <sladen> stevejesus: what does  'sudo ddcprobe'  say that your monitor can do
[09:33] <stevejesus> worked fine in flight 4-7
[09:33] <bartman_> another quick question. I have in my laptop a
[09:33] <wastrel> Scorpmoon:  shift-insert
[09:33] <Samus_Aran> nearly every terminal supports Shift+Insert to paste in the drag-to-select buffer
[09:33] <wastrel> also middle-mouseclick
[09:33] <sladen> stevejesus: can you file a bug please:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg/+filebug
[09:33] <skippy81> Scorpmoon:  theres a reason for it, control v are allready taken by the linux shell
[09:33] <Samus_Aran> scr: http://auk.ca/dd
[09:34] <Scorpmoon> ok but this is in gnome
[09:34] <skippy81> Scorpmoon:  yeah but it is a terminal
[09:34] <Samus_Aran> scr: that has information on reloading the bootloader after Windows wipes it out (which it will do)
[09:34] <scr> Samus_Aran: i am past that
[09:34] <Scorpmoon> that's a bad design design descision IMHO.. useability always comes first :)
[09:34] <scr> however, it leaves me with a working ubuntu and a not-so-fully-installed windows
[09:34] <lee_> Man, Enemy Territory ran terrible
[09:34] <skippy81> Scorpmoon:  the rules for terminals are different - your wife wont need to use a terminal much anyway - and when she is copying and pasting will be the last thing on her mind
[09:34] <stevejesus> sladen, it sats 1280x1024, but im running 14XXx1050 right now.  and have done 1600x1200 in flight 4-7
[09:34] <wastrel> shift-insert
[09:35] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: Ctrl+<any letter> is sent directly to the console.  it has to be, or you can't operate console based apps
[09:35] <Farhad> sladen:  why VGA menu doesn't works!
[09:35] <ToHellWithGA> !seen cdubya
[09:35] <Scorpmoon> so which one is she gonna use? you told me 10 solutions
[09:35] <liquoredonlife> I found 2 matches to your query (sorted): cdubya cdubya2. ToHellWithGA, cdubya (n=cdubya@24.121.151.40) was last seen quiting on #ubuntu 22minutes 59seconds ago stating ("Leaving").
[09:35] <ubotu> cdubya <n=cdubya@24.121.151.40> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 29m 25s ago, saying: 'it ended up getting a little annoying....so I removed it'.
[09:35] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: text mode relies heavily on control characters
[09:35] <elvirolo> ho all
[09:35] <ToHellWithGA> thanks liquoredonlife
[09:35] <trappist> wtf is liquoredonlife
[09:35] <sheepcentral> skippy81:It didn't work I still get the errors
[09:35] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: just configure one of the clipboard tools for Gnome or KE which will monitor your clipboards and synchronise them
[09:36] <sladen> Farhad: because your hardware cannot support the mode you are requesting
[09:36] <stevejesus> sladen, i can always do 1600x1200 with the nv driver, but almost never with nvidia driver.  always work in fedora
[09:36] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: that way you can paste with middle-click or application-method at any time
[09:36] <skippy81> sheepcentral:  im afraid im kinda out of ideas then - have you got any unusual hardware?
[09:36] <Scorpmoon> and copy is always ctrl+c ?
[09:36] <skippy81> and sheepcentral are you sure your install media is good?
[09:36] <jtd> can anyone explain to me why postfix appears to be leaving mail in /home/user/mbox rather than Maildir when I specifically told it to put it in Maildir in main.cf?  I'm STARING at the home_mailbox = Maildir/ directive in main.cf, and I DID restart postfix, so what's going on?
[09:36] <sladen> stevejesus: we need more information. Can you please file a bug if you want to get it fixed
[09:36] <LasseL> Samuli^: but I don't see dvd::rip in synaptic?
[09:37] <ryanakca_> can you install server from the desktop cd?
[09:37] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: no.  as I said, either the application chooses the method (anything the app wants) for the application-buffer, or it is the drag-to-select/middle-click-to-paste
[09:37] <Samuli^> !tell LasseL about universe
[09:37] <mark_> sladen: are you there?
[09:37] <stevejesus> sladen, i need to use launchpad right?  can you give me a quick step by step?
[09:37] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: those are the two copy/paste buffers
[09:37] <wastrel> jtd:  is posfix using procmail or some other mail delivery agent?
[09:37] <jbirdAngel> jtd: maybe your staring is making it nervous? j/k
[09:37] <skippy81> scorpmoon, if your working in a terminal then add shift
[09:37] <sheepcentral> skippy81:It is a laptop so that could be it and yes my install media is good afaik, i checked the iso's md5.
[09:37] <sladen> mark_: yes, I'm here
[09:37] <Farhad> my Ubuntu 5 works on 800x600 but now ...
[09:37] <ToHellWithGA> who is good with python and might help me debug something http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/62664
[09:37] <Flannel> jtd: did you restart postfix?
[09:37] <Flannel> oh, nevermind.
[09:37] <jbirdAngel> Geoffrey2: getting it to work?
[09:37] <Samuli^> LasseL, oh right. It's called simply dvdrip in the repos
[09:37] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: get used to the drag-to-select method, it is far faster than Windows copy and paste methods, and works in nearly every app
[09:37] <skippy81> sheepcentral:  check the CD just in case, maybe the ISO was good but the CD is bad? i know it sounds silly but it happens to a lot of people
[09:37] <sladen> stevejesus: go to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg/+filebug
[09:37] <bartman_> another quick question. I have in my laptop an ATI graphics card and I'd like to enable hibernation. I read many times that fglrx drivers aren't exactly hibernation friendly so I'd like to know what other drivers i should use. To this end i'm recompiling the kernel with suspend 2 support.
[09:37] <jtd> wastrel: It is.  Why?
[09:38] <sladen> stevejesus: and follow the questions
[09:38] <Samuli^> LasseL, so, try and apt-get that :)
[09:38] <wastrel> jtd:  procmail may have its own ideas about where your system mailbox is located
[09:38] <sheepcentral> skippy81:ok I will go do that now
[09:38] <skippy81> sheepcentral:  other than that i suggest google searching for your model of laptop - if it has issues you will find info
[09:38] <LasseL> Samuli^: I managed to disable universe somehow :)
[09:38] <jtd> or, I should say, I *installed* procmail.  Where would I go to configure it?
[09:38] <stevejesus> sladen, thank you
[09:38] <jtd> there doesn't seem to be a procmail.conf anywhere.
[09:38] <skippy81> sheepcentral: sorry i dont have a perfect solution for you mate :(
[09:38] <Samus_Aran> Scorpmoon: if you need apps to only use Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V, then only use official Gnome or KDE apps, and set up the terminal to use Ctrl+V as a shortcut for paste
[09:38] <sladen> bartman_: the 'ati' open source drivers should work with the in-kernel suspend
[09:39] <Samuli^> LasseL, so you found right? It's a great app. Let's you do almost anything, though hence it's a bit complicated at first.
[09:39] <scr> after installing about 1/2 of windows, it will want to reboot. it is here that i get stuck. windows overwrites grub but still wont boot its install procedure.
[09:39] <bartman_> I heard they only work well with radeon 9200 or less. I have a mobility Firegl v5000/x700 in my lappir
[09:39] <wastrel> jtd:  i dunno - i haven't messed with procmail for a while- just an idea of what the problem might be...
[09:39] <sladen> bartman_: the Suspend2 stuff is so much crack, but if they work for you reliably, use it
[09:39] <Samus_Aran> scr: that wouldn't have anything to do with GRUB or GNU/Linux
[09:39] <Samus_Aran> scr: it completely overwrites it
[09:39] <marksworld> sladen: I changed my name
[09:40] <sladen> scr: IIRC, windows will only install onto the primary partition
[09:40] <Samuli^> scr, are trying to install it on the first HD?
[09:40] <marksworld> sladen: I was mark
[09:40] <skippy81> scr:  i think on windows second boot, your still supposed to hav the windows CD in mate
[09:40] <Samus_Aran> scr: if it isn't booting stage two of the install, the problem lies elsewhere.  I recommend confirming the partition is marked as "bootable"
[09:40] <LasseL> Samuli^: I liked everything about "drip", except the part where it was supposed to actually work :)
[09:40] <scr> no, i am not trying to install to the 1st partition.
[09:40] <Samuli^> LasseL, haha. dvd::rip works nicely on my puter.
[09:40] <pvangarde> hello everyone
[09:40] <pvangarde> can someone help me with hibernation?
[09:41] <Samus_Aran> scr: and keep in mind that Windows in general likes to live on the first disk marked as bootable in the partition table (normally the primary master)
[09:41] <Samuli^> scr, but it's a primary partition, not a logical one and it's on the first HD right? (do you have multiple HD's physically?)
[09:41] <skippy81> pvangarde, if you have a nvidia graphics card, hibernation probably wont work
[09:41] <bartman_> sladen: so you're saying i should dump suspend2. Then just change the driver and hope it works with existing suspend functionality?
[09:41] <scr> so it cannot be done? grub doesnt have a neat feature to trick windows into thinking its the first partition?
[09:41] <ryanakca> can you install server from the ubuntu live/desktop cd?
[09:41] <scr> Samuli^: one hdd, many partitions
[09:41] <bartman_> I mean hibernate functionality
[09:41] <pvangarde> skippy81: that answers my question thank you!
[09:41] <skippy81> ryanakca:  no i dont think you can, try alternative
[09:41] <Samus_Aran> scr: which partition is Windows on ?
[09:41] <pvangarde> skippy81: is there any way to even try to make it work?
[09:41] <sladen> bartman_: if it doesn't work with the standard open-source driver, out of the box, then that is a bug and needs fixing
[09:41] <Samus_Aran> scr: and what are in the partitions before it ?
[09:42] <skippy81> pvangarde:  i wouldnt try, wait for nvidias next set of drivers to come out
[09:42] <Samuli^> scr, what's the hdaN number you're trying to install the windows to?
[09:42] <roler> I just installed ubuntu, what is the default root pw?
[09:42] <scr> Samus_Aran: #4, /boot and / are before it
[09:42] <scr> and smt else
[09:42] <sladen> bartman_: ideally it should work out-of-the-box with the binary too, if possible.  Have you actually tried?
[09:42] <Samus_Aran> scr: if there are any partitions before Windows that Windows can see (e.g. NTFS, FAT32, etc.) it won't boot
[09:42] <Samuli^> roler, you're supposed to use sudo and your sudoer pass is the same as your pass.
[09:42] <roler> oh
[09:42] <pvangarde> skippy81: i installed the drivers from the packaging system, should i try installing the drivers from nvidia.com
[09:42] <sladen> rody-DruAl: what error message?
[09:42] <Samus_Aran> scr: you can use GRUB to remap the partitions so XP's becomes the first partition
[09:42] <bartman_> sladen: No. Now i have fglrx drivers WITHOUT suspend2 functionality in the kernel
[09:42] <scr> ok
[09:42] <w000ter> ello all !
[09:43] <sladen> rody-DruAl: you said that already
[09:43] <skippy81> pvangarde:  yeah that might be worth a try, they are newer on the nvidia site i think
[09:43] <judah> repetition helps.
[09:43] <rody-DruAl> sladen: sorry hitted enter before I finished the msg :)
[09:43] <sladen> bartman_: and does that work?
[09:43] <judah> repetition helps.
[09:43] <roler> got it thanks
[09:43] <skippy81> !nvidia
[09:43] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[09:43] <bartman_> sladen, nope
[09:43] <Samuli^> scr, understand that primary partition doesn't mean first partition.
[09:43] <pvangarde> alright thanks, i'll let you know if it works
[09:43] <Samus_Aran> scr: is the windows partition marked as "bootable" ?
[09:43] <sladen> bartman_: can you file a bug please:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+filebug
[09:43] <w000ter> anyone able to answer one question regarding the boot process of a Dapper Drake install through PXE?
[09:44] <scr> Samus_Aran: i tried to mark and unmark it, didnt help my case then
[09:44] <rody-DruAl> sladen I get some msg saying mount: function not available when booting, but I don't know if that is the problem.
[09:44] <rody-DruAl> I just can't do anything when I'm on the desktop
[09:44] <sladen> bartman_: and check to see whether it works with the open-source driver.  We have to do lots of workarounds for different laptops to make them suspend or hibernate
[09:44] <rody-DruAl> it does not load anything after that
[09:44] <deshantm> w00ter, what is the problem?
[09:44] <scr> Samuli^: ok, i think ill give that a try
[09:44] <Samus_Aran> scr: well you can try the partition remapping with GRUB to see if it will boot it and continue the install
[09:44] <fairy> I've seen it reported as bug (albeit uncomfirmed) but can't find a solution... When I tried to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper, about midway through it says invalid package information unable to find ubuntu-base
[09:44] <skippy81> pvangarde:  use method 2 shown here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=tseliot+nvidia
[09:44] <marksworld> sladen: this is mark can you see m chat now?
[09:44] <Daemonic> has anyone else experienced visual artifacts and hard locks with an ATI X700pro video card?
[09:44] <w000ter> Normally I install distro's using Tftpd32, and use a diskboot.img/boot.img to remotely boot with a PXE client.. however, dapper drake (server) doesnt have a boot.img.
[09:44] <fairy> IS there a solution to that posted somewhere?
[09:45] <w000ter> thanks deshantm!
[09:45] <Samus_Aran> scr: this is more a question for a Windows support channel, as this is an example of how difficult Windows is to install in any non-standard locations
[09:45] <sladen> Daemonic: is it the binary driver?
[09:45] <Samus_Aran> g'day all
[09:45] <bartman_> sladen: OK, but how do i change the driver to ati? just change fglrx->ati in xorg.conf?
[09:45] <Daemonic> sladen, whatever comes standard.
[09:45] <w000ter> I've read the NetworkInstall manual on the ubuntu support pages.. but it's not compliant with dapper drake
[09:45] <XVampireX> Would QT programs work with gnome interface? (I.E: Convert it to whatever gnome interface you're using, like clearlooks)
[09:45] <divineomega> Hi all.
[09:46] <rody-DruAl> nobody seen my problem ever before?
[09:46] <sladen> bartman_: es
[09:46] <sladen> bartman_: yes
[09:46] <bartman_> thanks, i'll give it a try!
[09:46] <Subhuman> XVampireX, there is a gtk-qt type library, but i cant remember how it works tbh.
[09:46] <XVampireX> I'm asking these questions cause I'm thinking of switch to ubuntu for the time being
[09:46] <divineomega> Has anyone ever had their laptop hang during the configuring network stage during boot?
[09:46] <binks120> anyone had problems with dvdstyler not creating compliant iso imgs
[09:46] <XVampireX> switching^ from kubuntu
[09:46] <scr> Samus_Aran: do you really think that windows dudes know anything about this type of problem? :)
[09:46] <deshantm> w00ter, do you have a link?
[09:46] <sladen> rody-DruAl: so you never get to a desktop?
[09:47] <w000ter> yeah hold on
[09:47] <farous> XVampireX: install it using aptitude for if you do not like it it will be one command to remove it
[09:47] <farous> XVampireX: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[09:47] <pvangarde> i have a question: my kernel is a 386 kernel,but my cpu is 686. does this impair cpu performance and should I install the 686 kernel?
[09:47] <rody-DruAl> sladen : yes i get to a desktop, I get a mousepointer that is able to move.. but the desktop just stays brown.. nothing comes in the screen
[09:47] <rody-DruAl> It just stops then
[09:48] <skippy81> pvangarde: the 686 would be faster, yes
[09:48] <BirdieGryphon> Hi, after attempting to install xchat again I am given the following version of 2.4.4. I have removed the CD repositories, but I can't be overly sure if the repositories I have are all up to date, I have attempted to update apt-get with sudo apt-get update and so on but I can't seem to get the latest xchat installed. Here's what it does, if needed. http://pastebin.com/763224 (Also sorry about this constant question a
[09:48] <martin> hi guys, just a quick question... i'm following a guide and trying to change my kernel to 686 via apt... The only problem is I can't boot up in the kernel that is installed because X is complaining about the last of a graphics driver, any ideas what this means? can I not use this kernel?
[09:48] <BirdieGryphon> sking, very new to Linux.)
[09:48] <Samus_Aran> scr: just tell them "I am trying to install Windows XP to the fourth partition of the primary master, with the first three partitions belonging to another O/S"
[09:48] <Samus_Aran> scr: it would have been far better to install XP to hda1
[09:48] <sladen> rody-DruAl: right, okay.  How much RAM do you have in the machine?
[09:48] <fairy> martin, when you change kernels in ubuntu, it looks in that kernels place for driver modules.
[09:48] <rody-DruAl> 1024mb
[09:48] <Samus_Aran> scr: anyhow, good luck
[09:48] <rody-DruAl> it's a laptop
[09:48] <pvangarde> skippy81: can i install the new kernel through the packaging manager or do i have to compile it myself?
[09:48] <Samus_Aran> bye all
[09:49] <XVampireX> farous: Yeah, I had ubuntu-desktop before (I installed it originally) but I decided to try Kubuntu too, but when I installed kubuntu, it broke ubuntu and now kubuntu is somewhat broken, too... basically, I need a fresh install
[09:49] <w000ter> deshantm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28netboot%29
[09:49] <sladen> martin: did you install  'linux-image-686', or something else?
[09:49] <martin> cheers fairy, does that mean I have to install the nvidia drivers again?
[09:49] <skippy81> pvangarde:  im afraid i have no idea mate, i dont have a 686, only an amd64
[09:49] <martin> sladen: linux-image-686
[09:49] <fairy> martin, I probably sound dumb, cause I don't know how to explain it all... but, the best example I can give is with my modem drivers, and I have to recompile them every kernel change.
[09:49] <wastrel> BirdieGryphon:  what version of xchat do you want?  and are you running dapper or breezy?
[09:49] <sladen> martin: can you check if linux-restricted-modules is installed?
[09:49] <fairy> martin, someone else may have a better answer, but, I believe you just need the proper linux-restricted-modules version
[09:50] <cavediver> I found an annoying bug. If I try to open for example a -.torrent file, Gnome asks me what to do. i choosa open with azureus... and checks the always do this box.. BUT, when  downloadning a torrent again, it asks the same question !
[09:50] <w000ter> deshantm: if only I could get my hands on a 6.06 boot.img :\
[09:50] <fairy> cause you're not compiling the nvidia drivers from scratch
[09:50] <deshantm> w00ter, did you try using the breezy instructions
[09:50] <w000ter> yeah.. and it installs breezy :\
[09:50] <BirdieGryphon> wastrel: breezy, and I am after the latest version of xchat which is 2.6.2 if I'm not mistaken.
[09:51] <Geoffrey2> coolness, up and running wireless
[09:51] <deshantm> w000ter, ok so you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace breezy with dapper
[09:51] <wastrel> BirdieGryphon:  the latest version of xchat in the breezy repositories is 2.4.4 - to upgrade you'll have to install from source
[09:51] <martin> ah - i guess linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 needs to be installed aswell?
[09:51] <deshantm> w000ter, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:51] <rody-DruAl> It doesn't continue running the normal vga bootscreen after Configuring X.. I think it has something to do with that
[09:52] <w000ter> deshantm: would that install Ubuntu server?
[09:52] <sladen> cavediver: is it GNOME asking, or firefox.  If you can reproduce (repeat it).  Please file a bug against  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+filebug
[09:52] <wastrel> BirdieGryphon:  the latest version in dapper is 2.6.1 :] 
[09:52] <rody-DruAl> when I put the cd in another pc, it runs fine
[09:52] <deshantm> w000ter, no that would just upgrade from breezy to dapper
[09:52] <sladen> BirdieGryphon: try backports
[09:52] <dou213> deshantm, if i do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade will it do both commands at once?
[09:52] <huhn_2punkt0> hey I wanna setup a machine with windows and ubuntu. however I'm gonna format that machine (this one) first. so what would you suggest installing first?
[09:52] <HymnToLife> huhn_2punkt0> Windows first
[09:52] <huhn_2punkt0> ok
[09:53] <w000ter> deshantm: hmm.. is there a way of creating a boot.img myself?
[09:53] <huhn_2punkt0> how much space should I grant ubuntu then?
[09:53] <deshantm> dou213, it will run the first and if that succeeds then it will run the second
[09:53] <Amaranth> dou213: it'll do one after the other
[09:53] <Flannel> !tell huhn_2punkt0 about dualboot
[09:53] <kbrosnan> cavediver, that tends to happen with a mis-configured server not sending a vaid mime-type for the torrent
[09:53] <isa_> hi all
[09:53] <huhn_2punkt0> how much space should I give the ubuntu partition?
[09:53] <dou213> deshantm, thx ;)
[09:53] <deshantm> w000ter, what is in the boot.img?
[09:53] <huhn_2punkt0> and can ubuntu access the other ntfs paritions then?
[09:53] <Flannel> huhn_2punkt0: read what ubotu is messaging you with
[09:54] <egu> "Can't find java!" What to do..?
[09:54] <Flannel> huhn_2punkt0: no.  ubuntu can only read the ntfs partition
[09:54] <isa_> when i try & configure my brother hl-2030 printer, no driver appears in the list
[09:54] <huhn_2punkt0> ok
[09:54] <martin> huhn_2punkt0 - that depends where you're going to store your data, remember you can only access windows partitions read only but you can mount an ext3 partition with write access in windows
[09:54] <janne_oksanen> I just did a dist upgrade to dapper I notice I have 75 packages "kept back", mostly X and streamer related. Is this normal and should I try to fix it?
[09:54] <skippy81> !automatix
[09:54] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[09:54] <rody-DruAl> I have the same problem as this guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25193   But there are no solutions there
[09:55] <huhn_2punkt0> so I can write on the linux partition in windows, but not the other way around
[09:55] <isa_> can anyone help me?
[09:55] <martin> correct
[09:55] <skippy81> huhn_2punkt0:  you can write to ntfs but its not fully developed and its risky
[09:55] <w000ter> deshantm: .txt files named F1.txt through F10.txt, then there's initrd.rz, syslinux.cfg, splash.rle and some others
[09:56] <huhn_2punkt0> ok the faq tells me I should give ubuntu at least 10gb, this seems a bit much to me considering that the download itself is just a dvd
[09:56] <ompaul> rody-DruAl, try this,. ctrl+alt+backspace at once - it will restart the gui - what spec is that box?
[09:56] <huhn_2punkt0> anybody got experience with that?
[09:56] <skippy81> huhn_2punkt0: most people would not consider enabliing ubuntu to write to NTFS if they had valuable data on the ntfs partition
[09:56] <huhn_2punkt0> ok
[09:56] <belialsconsort> hi, I have a question.
[09:56] <deshantm> w000ter, likely all you would need to modify would be the initrd.gz file...do you have access to a linux box for that?
[09:56] <belialsconsort> I'm trying to install shockwave, and I'm not really sure how
[09:56] <skippy81> huhn_2punkt0:  10gb is sensible - i wouldnt want to go much lower, unless you know you wont be intalling many programs
[09:56] <ompaul> huhn_2punkt0, I have a 200 gig system with over 50 in use - for the minimum to get a useful box you want 10G
[09:57] <huhn_2punkt0> i just got 60 :D
[09:57] <rody-DruAl> it;s a laptop: Centrino 1.8Ghz 1024MB ATI Mobility Radeon X300
[09:57] <gleesond> is there any good music sequencing software for linux?
[09:57] <`Boo`> um
[09:57] <huhn_2punkt0> ok I got an external hdd
[09:57] <rody-DruAl> ompaul: trying now
[09:57] <`Boo`> 600 gigs here
[09:57] <`Boo`> lol
[09:57] <huhn_2punkt0> damn :D
[09:57] <`Boo`> 90% of it is full
[09:57] <janne_oksanen> gleesond: check out audacity and ardour
[09:57] <lee_> belialsconsort: You can install shockwave on linux??
[09:57] <ompaul> rody-DruAl, that is one nasty card - you really need to follow this
[09:57] <huhn_2punkt0> well I'm gonna install  windows on this rig first
[09:57] <Daemonic> I have 922 gigs.
[09:57] <ompaul> !ati
[09:57] <ubotu> [ati]  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[09:57] <w000ter> deshantm: yeah I have.. what exactly do you think I have to edit?
[09:57] <huhn_2punkt0> byebye
[09:57] <lee_> Boo: might want to lay off the bittorrent :P
[09:57] <sheepcentral> I'm thinking of buying a new desktop, can anyone reccomend a dell computer that runs ubuntu perfectly and you nkow this for a fact rather than it should work?
[09:57] <belialsconsort> Lee: that's waht I'm trying to figure out.
[09:57] <`Boo`> hehe why
[09:58] <ompaul> huhn_2punkt0, your wasting so much space
[09:58] <rody-DruAl> ompaul: that is the problem are you sure?
[09:58] <lee_> I've only got 40 gigs on this laptop :(
[09:58] <huhn_2punkt0> why's that
[09:58] <cidco> is ATI support still pretty bad? I have a laptop with an x1400 and am wondering if its worth puttung ubuntu on it? WIll i still be able to have 3d support ?
[09:58] <WINBALL> Hi, i've just installed ubuntu, but I have problems installing a package manually. gcc should be installed? I get this error: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:58] <ompaul> huhn_2punkt0, I live without windows for years and I am happy
[09:58] <isa_> anyone experiencing the same prob as me ?
[09:58] <huhn_2punkt0> you mean installing windows is a waste of space?
[09:58] <`Boo`> cidco, i have an x700 and it works fine
[09:58] <deshantm> w000ter, gunzip the file, create a mount point for it, then mount -o loop <the initrd> <mount point>
[09:58] <lee_> cidco: I have a ati radeon mobile 9600
[09:58] <huhn_2punkt0> well I'll see
[09:59] <huhn_2punkt0> i'm not gonna make a 100% percent swap right now
[09:59] <farous_> winball: install build-essential package
[09:59] <w000ter> deshantm: thanks, I'll try that right away
[09:59] <huhn_2punkt0> ok see you sometime tomorrow guys
[09:59] <cidco> does it run glx?
[09:59] <Daemonic> `Boo`: when you first installed did you get visual artifacts and hard locks with your x700? I do. =(
[09:59] <ompaul> rody-DruAl, pretty sure
[09:59] <lee_> cidco, xgl?
[09:59] <ompaul> !ati
[09:59] <cidco> because i thought you cant run glx and composite together on ATI?
[09:59] <ubotu> ati is probably http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[09:59] <ompaul> !xgl
[09:59] <ubotu> well, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[09:59] <`Boo`> Daemonic:   no, none at all.
[09:59] <Krpano> when you have an error while loading the GDM....there is any log saved ?
[09:59] <profoXP> I have a problem with "network-manager". I can't connect to any wireless networks with it. I can only connect when I use iwconfig and dhclient, and then it doesnt want to connect.
[09:59] <deshantm> w000ter, would you will need is to update the kernel file i would guess
[09:59] <Daemonic> `Boo`: nice to know I'm all alone with my problem. =\
[10:00] <profoXP> cidco, you can run ATI + XGL/composite-manager in most cases
[10:00] <vandalin> Would it be able to install a windows 2000 partition with my already installed ubuntu system?
[10:00] <`Boo`> :(
[10:00] <farous_> ompaul: the latest fglrx drivers are in the repos now
[10:00] <lee_> Cidco: Idk much lol, I just know it's working. I have xgl running too.
[10:00] <`Boo`> you probably have a bad card
[10:00] <profoXP> Daemonic, hardlocks on X700 ? i know solution
[10:00] <rody-DruAl> ompaul: ok, gonna try that now
[10:00] <cidco> ok thanks :)
[10:00] <profoXP> Daemonic, with XGL, right?
[10:00] <cidco> ill give it a shot tonight
[10:00] <martin> 1 more question, I have an AMD Athlon - will the 686 kernel or the k7 kernel perform better? or should i just try both?
[10:00] <Daemonic> profoXP, what's the solution?
[10:00] <profoXP> I have a problem with "network-manager". I can't connect to any wireless networks with it. I can only connect when I use iwconfig and dhclient, and then it doesnt want to connect.
[10:00] <profoXP> Daemonic, wait 1 minute
[10:00] <Daemonic> `Boo`: card works perfectly in other distros and windows.
[10:00] <Flannel> martin: k7 is AMD specific, use that one.
[10:00] <Daemonic> `Boo`: just not ubuntu.
[10:00] <deshantm> w000ter, i really am unsure of the details of how this particular process works, so more details would be nice if you need more help
[10:00] <martin> cheers Flannel
[10:00] <Flannel> martin: in your case, 686 is like using 386.
[10:00] <`Boo`> thats really weird
[10:00] <isa_> please help me
[10:01] <Krpano> guys
[10:01] <Krpano> when you have an error while loading the GDM....there is any log saved ?
[10:01] <`Boo`> i bet you have a driver for linux 64 bit or something weird
[10:01] <skippy81> sheepcentral:  really linux "should" work on any desktop, i suggest you look through this forum for potential problems with a given dell desktop and linux http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board?board.id=sw_linux
[10:01] <martin> ok thanks
[10:01] <vandalin> Anyone know of any hotwos or docus on how to  install a windows 2000 partition with my already installed ubuntu system?
[10:01] <`Boo`> try reinstalling the driver
[10:01] <sheepcentral> skippy: thanks
[10:01] <Daemonic> profoXP: ? you have a solution to the artifacts and hardlocks?
[10:01] <jtd> ok, so procmail has no universal configuration file, only user by user.  so after specifying INBOX=~/Maildir in my .procmailrc, and after making sure that postfix was configured to deliver mail via Maildirs, mail is still showing up in /var/mail/user and getting stuck in mbox.  any ideas what's going on there?
[10:01] <w000ter> deshantm: alright desh.. I'll see what I can find.. I'm going to see if I can compare the contents of boot.img and make changes necessary..
[10:02] <profoXP> Daemonic, for the lockups, yes, I had the same problem on my other notebook, for the artifacts, maybe. wait, im searching
[10:02] <skippy81> Krpano:  look in /var/log/ there should be a few xorg log files in there
[10:02] <Flannel> jtd: wow, um, try disabling procmail, see if procmail or postfix is the problem.
[10:03] <deshantm> w000ter, also when you recompress the initrd use: gzip -9
[10:03] <skippy81> !reinstall grub
[10:03] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, skippy81
[10:03] <jtd> Flannel: how does one disable procmail?  when I removed the package, postfix broke.
[10:03] <Krpano> skippy81 , thx mate
[10:03] <isa_> what user name / pw do I have to use in the CUPS web interface to install a new printer?
[10:03] <profoXP> Daemonic, Add these lines to the device section of your xorg.conf:
[10:03] <sorush20> what kind of command would I need to empty all the files in multiple subfolders into another folder?
[10:03] <profoXP> Daemonic, Option       "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[10:03] <lee_> Hey, if you know anything about xgl please go to #Xgl
[10:04] <profoXP> Daemonic, Option       "KernelModuleParm" "agplock=0"
[10:04] <ompaul> farous, even better :)
[10:04] <profoXP> Daemonic, that should do it
[10:04] <Flannel> jtd: in postfix config, there's a... mailbox command option, it should have a procmail command
 Command died with status 127: "procmail -a "$EXTENSION"". Command output: sh: procmail: command not found
[10:04] <isa_> why isn't anyone even trying to help me?
[10:04] <jtd> okay.
[10:04] <jtd> do I just remove the procmail command, then/
[10:04] <jtd> ?
[10:04] <Flannel> isa_: you haven't asked a question yet.  we can't answer it.
[10:04] <Flannel> jtd: just comment it out (#)
[10:04] <Daemonic> profoXP: Thanks.
[10:04] <salah> do I have to download iso, burn it and boot it up for upgrading my ubuntu 5.10?
[10:04] <Flannel> salah: no.  you can upgrade via apt
[10:05] <salah> Flannel, how?
[10:05] <Flannel> !tell salah about upgrade
[10:05] <WINBALL> farous_ Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "build-essential"
[10:05] <profoXP> Daemonic, about the artifacts, paste your xorg.conf in http://ubuntu.pastebin.org if they are still there
[10:05] <jtd> Flannel: that's what I did
[10:05] <rody-DruAl> ompaul: how do i install those drivers when i can't get into the system?
[10:05] <jtd> Flannel: let's see if that fixes it
[10:05] <profoXP> Daemonic, could be a problem with wrong Depth
[10:05] <jonah> hey can anyone please help me get the java plugin working in firefox, i've installed it but java doesn't work still - do i need to do some kind of symlink or something?
[10:05] <Flannel> jtd: now, restart, and see if it goes to maildir or mbox
[10:05] <rody-DruAl> (i'm a bit of a inux noob) :)
[10:05] <isa_> Flannel, yes I have ... I've asked two questions, the last one being " what user name / pw do I have to use in the CUPS web interface to install a new printer?"
[10:06] <skippy81> isa_:  that web interface is usually redundant on ubuntu, why do you need to use it?
[10:06] <skippy81> start at the beginning
[10:06] <Tybalt> what is the command to retrieve the timestamp of a file?
[10:06] <farous_> WINBALL: are you sure your spelled it correctly use synaptic to search for it and reload your repos
[10:06] <isa_> skippy81, because the GNOME interface doesn't work
[10:07] <profoXP> jonah, the easiest way to fix java etc. would be by running Easy Ubuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html just copy and paste the code there in your terminal and you're ready
[10:07] <ompaul> rody-DruAl, you go to a terminal, CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in, the instructions you have are in text so you type them out and bingo - the thing is that its a lot of effort to try this out
[10:07] <isa_> hello?
[10:07] <ompaul> rody-DruAl, one thing you could try is this,
[10:07] <luke_r> can anyone here help me with getting ubuntu to output to my tv properly?
[10:08] <rody-DruAl> ompaul i can't get into a terminal, because ctrl-alt-f1 says: Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel
[10:08] <skippy81> isa_:  try installing KDEprint
[10:08] <ompaul> rody-DruAl, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << and there in choose VESA I don't know if that will work Try F2 in that combination up to F7
[10:08] <jtd> Flannel: BINGO.  It was procmail's fault.
[10:08] <ompaul> !tell luke_r about mythtv
[10:09] <skippy81> isa_:  or do this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2126.html
[10:09] <profoXP> I have a problem with "network-manager". I can't connect to any wireless networks with it. I can only connect when I use iwconfig and dhclient, and then it doesnt want to connect.
[10:09] <isa_> skippy81, i've read that it didn't work http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/7351
[10:09] <jtd> Flannel: procmail was putting things in mbox, though I have no idea why, and it was ignoring .procmailrcs.
[10:09] <ompaul> luke_r, read the message from ubotu and follow the link and instructions as many before you
[10:09] <luke_r> ompaul, i dont want mythtv
[10:09] <ompaul> luke_r, well it is all I have for you
[10:09] <jtd> I wonder if procmail broke in some subtle way during the upgrade
[10:09] <Flannel> jtd: heh, I haven't setup procmail yet, so I don't know what to tell you ;)  but yeah, I figured, since I haven't had problems with postfix
[10:10] <rody-DruAl> ompaul, i get a lot of black screens, but not a normal terminal window
[10:10] <isa_> skippy81, thx but i know that tip & it doesn't work for me
[10:10] <ompaul> luke_r, maybe if you hang around 15 minutes and ask again you will get better lucj
[10:10] <luke_r> ompaul, i have a vga input on my tv which i plug my computer into, everything works fine until i play a video and screen goes blank
[10:10] <isa_> is anyone aware of probs with CUPS ?
[10:10] <skippy81> isa_:  you cant install kdeprint? you dont need kde to run it
[10:10] <isa_> skippy81, ok i'll do it
[10:10] <luke_r> ompaul, when i stop the video the screen returns to normal
[10:10] <martin> do you guys know how i can set a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal when i press the windows logo button? ubuntu doesn't seem to detect me pressing it
[10:10] <luke_r> ompaul, so not really a problem mythtv will solve...
[10:10] <ompaul> luke_r, so can you play it on a non TV?
[10:11] <skippy81> isa_: basically the cups web interface is seriously locked down in dapper, using a gui will always be more straightforwared
[10:11] <luke_r> ompaul, yes, fine
[10:11] <luke_r> ompaul, i think it may be something to dop with the refresh rate
[10:11] <isa_> but ubuntu (gnome) should be able to cope with printers without me having to install any kde component !
[10:11] <skippy81> isa_:   i do agree thought that it should be much easier to enable the cups interface on localhost
[10:11] <profoXP> luke_r is having a tv-out problem with his video driver, probably, what video driver are you running? proprietary fglrx or nvidia ?
[10:11] <luke_r> ompaul, my tv only works when the refresh rate is 60hz
[10:11] <WINBALL> synaptic doesn't find any build-essential
[10:11] <luke_r> profoXP, nvidia proprietary
[10:11] <luke_r> profoXP, the same problem dosent happen in windows though
[10:11] <skippy81> isa_:  clearly something is borked on your system, the gnome printer program works fine for most people
[10:11] <ompaul> !resolution
[10:11] <ubotu> resolution is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:12] <luke_r> profoXP, its not tvout , its vga
[10:12] <isa_> skippy81, plus my printer used to work on breezy
[10:12] <sn00p> Why doesn't ubuntu have a regular xchat package?
[10:12] <ompaul> luke_r, well windows obviously has some hack to let it happen - and if you use that link you can bring your resolution down to what you want
[10:12] <skippy81> isa_: did you upgrade to dapper, sounds like something went wrong
[10:12] <luke_r> ompaul, what are you talking about?
[10:12] <profoXP> luke_r, nvidia is preconfigured for windows by default, blame nvidia for that.. but i never tried tv-out on nvidia, only on ati
[10:12] <luke_r> ompaul, the resolution is fine in both windows and linux
[10:13] <luke_r> ompaul, the problem only occurs when playing video in linux
[10:13] <skippy81> i did a fresh installl and my priniting in gnome works fine isa_, the print manager i find to be very stable in daper drake
[10:13] <isa_> skippy81, nope, fresh install
[10:13] <ompaul> luke_r, fine, so its beyond me
[10:13] <isa_> skippy81, apt-get install kdeprint ?
[10:13] <luke_r> ompaul, thanks for helping
[10:13] <profoXP> luke_r, oh, you use your VGA port to connect to your TV ? and it works until you run video ?
[10:13] <skippy81> isa_:  yeah or use synaptic, it will install a few kde libraries with it, but nothing huge i dont thing
[10:13] <luke_r> profoXP, yes :D
[10:14] <isa_> skippy81, ok done
[10:14] <profoXP> luke_r, I would try a few different video drivers first. Or look into mplayers functions. It has alot of functions to change the way video outputs..
[10:14] <isa_> skippy81, the kdeprint command doesn't exist
[10:14] <luke_r> profoXP, i tried the nv driver, same sort of thing
[10:14] <profoXP> luke_r, i mean video output driver
[10:14] <skippy81> search the disk for it isa_ there must be an exectuable somewhere
[10:14] <luke_r> profoXP, does the refresh rate for any reason change when playing video?
[10:14] <ompaul> luke_r,  a minor detail that I overlooked - but you suggest your dropping frame rates don't use the player full screen and see what happens does it do anything if you can see its outline but nothing within it get into the player with a software screwdriver and play with its configs
[10:14] <profoXP> luke_r, like vo, x11, gl
[10:14] <luke_r> profoXP, oh, ok
[10:14] <skippy81> isa_:  or try stuff like kprint etc
[10:14] <profoXP> luke_r, I have no idea, I don't think so
[10:15] <luke_r> ompaul, how would i change the frame rate?
[10:15] <luke_r> ompaul, ive tried fullscreen and not fullscreen, that didnt help
[10:15] <profoXP> luke_r, what media player are you using ?
[10:15] <rody-DruAl> ompaul how do i get in a terminal screen?
[10:16] <luke_r> profoXP, many, it happens in all of them, totem, mplayer, vlc..
[10:16] <ompaul> rody-DruAl, ctrl+alt+f1-6 7 is gnome
[10:16] <rody-DruAl> jes, but not 1 terminal window
[10:16] <rody-DruAl> or window i can use
[10:16] <dou213> hey guys, i'm on a laptop with ubuntu, and my touchpad is working although i have a mouse plugged in.. how can i disable the touchpad? it doesn't work so fine, the signals interfere...
[10:16] <profoXP> luke_r, lets look at mplayer, look at what video output it is using by going into config
[10:16] <ompaul> luke_r, your missing my point, when you tried not full screen did you see the desktop
[10:16] <starhawk> what are the unofficial repositories for ubunta where can I find them
[10:16] <profoXP> luke_r, preferences I mean
[10:17] <Flannel> starhawk: what are you looking for?
[10:17] <bur[n] er> "the" unofficial?  more like "many" unofficial
[10:17] <starhawk> codacs
[10:17] <luke_r> ompaul, oh sorry, no i didnt, the screen whole goes completely black if its windowed
[10:17] <starhawk> win 32
[10:17] <profoXP> luke_r, then go to the Video tab and you can see all available video drivers
[10:17] <Flannel> !tell starhawk about restrictedformats
[10:17] <bur[n] er> !tell starhawk about w32codecs
[10:17] <Trewas> it has been mentioned that ubiquity installs grub without asking any specifics, I'm wondering where would it end in a system with both sata and pata drives?
[10:17] <ompaul> luke_r, and as profoXP is saying mplayer is the owner of that space - most configurable command appart from the bash shell
[10:17] <profoXP> starhawk, you are better off by installing easy ubuntu
[10:17] <profoXP> lol
[10:17] <Flannel> profoXP: easyubuntu doesn't do anything he can't do himself.
[10:18] <starhawk> I am running mepis 60
[10:18] <profoXP> but its easier .
[10:18] <luke_r> profoXP, at the moment its set to xv
[10:18] <Geoffrey2> is there any special software needed to read an NTFS partition?
[10:18] <Flannel> !tell Geoffrey2 about ntfs
[10:18] <skippy81> Geoffrey2:  no
[10:18] <ompaul> !ntfs
[10:18] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[10:18] <Centaur5> Does anybody know if there's a 64 bit ati script for installing xgl and compiz?
[10:18] <luke_r> ompaul, so you say i should fiddle with the video output driver?
[10:18] <profoXP> luke_r, xv is the standard output driver for X, maybe you could try to use openGL to render it by setting it to gl2 (or gl if you dont have gl2)
[10:18] <wastrel> "hella"
[10:18] <skippy81> Centaur5:  no but there are guides on the forum
[10:18] <starhawk> it usese ubunta repositories
[10:18] <profoXP> luke_r, but I have no experience with tv-out whatsoever :)
[10:19] <luke_r> profoXP, i have both, so ill try them next time
[10:19] <profoXP> luke_r, just a guess
[10:19] <gavagai> i am trying to install ubuntu, but the windows are all too big and I can't see the "ok / cancel" buttons.  i rebooted and at the install screen picked some different VGA settings, but it makes no difference.  any ideas?
[10:19] <gavagai> i'm referring to the windows during the installation questions, like time zone and stuff
[10:19] <luke_r> profoXP, unfortunately my tv is downstairs and im upstairs
[10:19] <Centaur5> skippy81: Is there an official guide that is up to date?  2 guides I found didn't work
[10:19] <ompaul> luke_r, no just the player
[10:19] <skippy81> Centaur5:  look for "XGL and Compiz: One thread to rule them all"
[10:19] <profoXP> luke_r, okay, good luck
[10:19] <dragonbyte> hey...lspci shows my network cards...and the correct modules are getting loaded...but eth0 and eth1 arent showing up
[10:19] <dragonbyte> am I missing something
[10:19] <gavagai> i am totally stuck at the time zone question because i have no way to continue
[10:19] <ompaul> !xgl
[10:19] <Beginer_> Can I download drivers,media codecs,java and flash player and then install them manually?
[10:19] <ubotu> xgl is probably "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[10:19] <wastrel> gavagai:  alt-click anywhere on the window to move it so you can reach the  buttons
[10:20] <moparfan90> im trying to install a .deb and it say that xlib isnt installed
[10:20] <moparfan90> but it is
[10:20] <ompaul> Centaur5, ^^ up a few lines
[10:20] <ben_> is there a key sequence to switch between workspaces in ubuntu?
[10:20] <gavagai> wastrel, thanks, i'll try that now
[10:20] <skippy81> Centaur5:  not for AMD64 and ATI you have a double hard job there, you will have to read a few guides and do your homework im afraid
[10:20] <luke_r> ompaul, video driver within mplayer i mean
[10:20] <ompaul> luke_r, yes
[10:20] <wastrel> ben_:  ctrl-alt left & right arrow
[10:20] <profoXP> I have a problem with "network-manager". I can't connect to any wireless networks with it. I can only connect when I use iwconfig and dhclient, and then network-manager tells me there is no connection...
[10:20] <ydnar> ben, are you talking about ctrl+f1,f2,f3,f4?
[10:20] <elvirolo> still doesn't work
[10:20] <dragonbyte> How do I make my network cards show up as eth0 and eth1?
[10:20] <ompaul> luke_r, be prepared for a long session
[10:20] <ben_> awesome, thanks a lot
[10:20] <luke_r> ompaul, heh, yes :D
[10:20] <profoXP> ben_, standard for workspaces is ctrl+alt+left / ctrl+alt+right
[10:20] <ydnar> oh cool
[10:20] <Centaur5> skippy81: Okay, thanks for the help.  If it doesn't work shortly I just won't bother.  I just wanted to show it off on a demo computer to convert people.  :)
[10:20] <luke_r> ompaul, what frame rate shall i try to set it to?
[10:20] <profoXP> ben_, for switching between virtual desktops that is
[10:21] <dragonbyte> my network cards arent showing up at all as ethX, lspci shows em, and the modules are loading
[10:21] <ben_> thanks
[10:21] <luke_r> ompaul, incase that may be the problem?
[10:21] <ompaul> luke_r, a mate of mine who is a fairly good admin and hacker took two evenings he found some drivers for his card online have written and rebuilt it
[10:21] <moparfan90> im trying to intsall something and it is sayin i dont have xlib installed but i do. any suggestions?
[10:21] <skippy81> Centaur5:  its a lot easier with nvidia unfortuantely, i got xgl/compiz/nvidia up in 30 minutes
[10:21] <skippy81> on an amd64
[10:21] <ompaul> luke_r, you want it to be corresponding to the tv - 60Hz
[10:22] <luke_r> ompaul, what would that be in FPS?
[10:22] <Centaur5> skippy81: yeah, I had it up and going on my laptop in March with a script that did everything for me and it was working in 10 minutes
[10:22] <gavagai> will the gui let me do a 'server' install?
[10:22] <ompaul> 60
[10:22] <rody-DruAl> cant get this thing to work :'(
[10:22] <skippy81> gavagai:  no use alternative installation cd
[10:22] <luke_r> ompaul, it has movie FPS at the bottom of the video config page
[10:22] <Centaur5> skippy81: After I sell my last 2 ati cards I'm never ordering more cause nvidia has better support.
[10:22] <ompaul> luke_r, actually it might not be
[10:22] <ompaul> luke_r, just play with it
[10:22] <skippy81> Centaur5:  yeah i used to love ATI but had enough of them now
[10:22] <luke_r> ompaul, will do
[10:22] <neutrinomass> Anybody with conexant accessrunner experience ?
[10:22] <luke_r> thanks for your help profoXP and ompaul
[10:22] <Centaur5> skippy81: I'm going to let them know that too  :)
[10:22] <ompaul> !linmodem
[10:22] <skippy81> Centaur5: at least nvidia acknowledge that linux exists :D
[10:22] <ubotu> linmodem is probably To get started with linmodems (aka winmodems), see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[10:23] <ompaul> luke_r, have fun
[10:23] <luke_r> ompaul, ill have lots ;)
[10:23] <Beginer_> Can I download drivers,media codecs,java and flash player and then install them manually?
[10:23] <rody-DruAl> Why can't i get into a console screen? Can't i just boot into console somehow?
[10:23] <skippy81> Centaur5:  i have a 6200 geforce running great with XGL/Compiz on an AMD64 at the moment
[10:23] <Flannel> Beginer_: yes
[10:23] <zakann> Oh, I see that I'm not alone in my ATi troubles
[10:23] <lee_> rody: ctrl alt f1
[10:23] <rody-DruAl> lee_ when must i press that?
[10:23] <ompaul> rody-DruAl, no idea how to do that on a live CD
[10:24] <Beginer_> How ?Flannel
[10:24] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  if you want to kill xwindows off use /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:24] <Centaur5> skippy81: I have a question though, after you're running xgl/compiz can you load any other games or things that use gl or is that too much?
[10:24] <lee_> Rody; Nevermind I misread that.
[10:24] <majk3l> where can i change the port on my torrent client that is by deafault
[10:24] <majk3l> :/
[10:24] <zakann> Is there anyone who have an ATI's Motherboard here? with RADEON XPRESS 200 integrated?
[10:24] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  you can remove that script from the runlevels if you want to boot into a command line
[10:24] <rody-DruAl> skippy81 where should i put that? I can't get to anything
[10:24] <Flannel> Beginer_: well, you'll do each one separately, and there's a howto for each.
[10:24] <lee_> Majk3l: What bittorent client?
[10:24] <lilbit> I just recently installed daper drake, i noticed xchat looks different
[10:24] <rody-DruAl> i can only reach the bootmenu
[10:24] <ompaul> lilbit, that would be the theme
[10:25] <majk3l> lee_: Bittorrent
[10:25] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  are you just in gnome now?
[10:25] <rody-DruAl> after that the thing starts but hangs at the brown desktop
[10:25] <albacker> Guys the latest Ubuntu is daper drake ? is it given for free like breezy ?
[10:25] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  ah i see
[10:25] <Beginer_> Can you give me some link? Flannel
[10:25] <gavagai> wastrel, alt clicking is not helping.  i need to move the window "up" to see the buttons on the bottom, and it won't let me
[10:25] <starhawk> thank you
[10:25] <Flannel> Beginer_: what would you like to start with?
[10:25] <lilbit> ompaul: where do I change the theme?
[10:25] <dou213> hey guys, i'm on a laptop with ubuntu, and my touchpad is working although i have a mouse plugged in.. how can i disable the touchpad? it doesn't work so fine, the signals interfere...
[10:25] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  will control-alt-backspace work? or control-alt-F2?
[10:25] <lee_> majk3l: I don't think you can, change to Azureus or ktorrent
[10:25] <blaze> how can i configure s-video cable in ubuntu?
[10:26] <gavagai> i feel like an idiot, why is resizing this installation window tricky?
[10:26] <Beginer_> Nvidia grficks
[10:26] <rody-DruAl> skippy81 yes i get a black screen
[10:26] <gavagai> i can't resize it at the edges and i can't move it up so i can see the buttons
[10:26] <majk3l> lee_: what sourses do i need  ?
[10:26] <rody-DruAl> but no prompt or anything
[10:26] <wastrel> gavagai:  i dunno- alt-click & drag lets me move my windows up past the titlebar... i'm not running the installer though.
[10:26] <Flannel> !tell Beginer_ about nvidia
[10:26] <gavagai> hmmmm'
[10:26] <skippy81> rody-DruAl: hmm doesnt sound good :(
[10:26] <blaze> !s-video
[10:26] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, blaze
[10:26] <Flannel> Beginer_: read your pm from ubotu
[10:26] <blaze> !tell blaze s-video
[10:26] <lilbit> I just recently installed daper drake, in xchat, now the user list does not appear at the right hand side in a fixed position, although I can actuate it by clicking the "Users" button
[10:26] <gavagai> ok got it
[10:26] <lee_> majk3l: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
[10:26] <gavagai> thanks
[10:27] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  sorry im out of ideas, beyond using the alternative installation CD
[10:27] <Beginer_> Thanks Flannel
[10:27] <roler> I just installed ubuntu. I am so overly amazed. It worked right out of the box. Even my wireless, sound, and video - which on my new laptop are cutting edge. The multimedia keys, FN-eject, FN-stand by and FN-hybernate work too, simply amazing. I do have one problem though... That is my screen resolution
[10:27] <albacker> What is the web-page that gives free ubuntu CDs ?
[10:27] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  i assume you are trying to boot off live cd at the moment
[10:27] <lilbit> I just recently installed daper drake, in xchat, how do I make the user list appear to the right hand side as a fixed window pane?
[10:27] <Flannel> !tell roler about resolution
[10:27] <ompaul> lilbit, sysetm preferences theme
[10:27] <dou213> how can i find out which module is controlling my mouse?
[10:27] <__doc__> hi, I installed nvidia-glx and I successfully ran glxgears at a high fps rate, glxinfo | grep rendering is direct rendering: Yes, however, I get gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images.
[10:27] <lilbit> ompaul: preferences in xchat?  or in gnome?
[10:28] <Samuli^> lilbit, use xchat not xchat-gnome.
[10:28] <elvirolo> skippy81, i can't find the command
[10:28] <heli0n> What happened to VLC in dapper? It's impossible to install it.
[10:28] <__doc__> I'm on dapper
[10:28] <J_P> anyone here lives on London, UK ?
[10:28] <albacker> can someone give me the page that gives FREE UBUNTU CDz ?
[10:28] <skippy81> elvirolo:  sorry mate, which command?
[10:28] <skippy81> !shipit
[10:28] <ubotu> For free ubuntu CDs visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ . For kubuntu CDs visit http://shipit.kubuntu.org . For edubuntu CDs - http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[10:28] <lilbit> Samuli^:  I tried doing apt-get xchat, and nothing came up
[10:28] <ompaul> lilbit, okay if you are talking application looks different then that is settings and play in there - if your talking about "orange" then your talking gnome
[10:28] <elvirolo> skippy81, kdeprint
[10:29] <Samuli^> lilbit, check the repositories: apt-cache search xchat.. see there's two versions of the gui, (gnome-version sucking)
[10:29] <albacker> !edubuntu
[10:29] <ubotu> Edubuntu is the education version of ubuntu (essentially ubuntu + educational apps + ltsp).  Website - http://www.edubuntu.org. Tour - http://edubuntu.org/tour.html
[10:29] <farruinn> How do I change my qt theme and settings from gnome?
[10:29] <skippy81> elvirolo:  have you found the right command for it?
[10:29] <Flannel> Samuli^: only if he's got universe enabled (xchat is in uni)
[10:29] <skippy81> elvirolo:  is it giving errors?
[10:29] <__doc__> a slight problem here with "gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images", any ideas?
[10:29] <bartman_> Hello again. I have a problem with my shutdown procedure. It stops/hangs when it says "Deconfiguring netwok interfaces" and then only the power button shuts the laptop off.
[10:29] <rody-DruAl> skippy81 yes that's right, a live cd yeah
[10:29] <elvirolo> skippy81, no, can't find the command
[10:29] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  i suggest you download the alternative cd
[10:29] <skippy81> elvirolo:  ok give me a sec, ill install it
[10:30] <dragonbyte> Why is ubuntu detecting the hardware, loading the modules, and only creating eth1 and not eth0?
[10:30] <elvirolo> skippy81, tried kdeprint but it's not the  right programme
[10:30] <elvirolo> skippy81, thanks a lot
[10:30] <rody-DruAl> alternative cd?
[10:30] <rody-DruAl> and that willdo?
[10:30] <Samuli^> Flannel, <Flannel> Samuli^: only if he's got universe enabled (xchat is in  <-- What Flannel said
[10:30] <paniq> hey
[10:30] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  alternative CD doesnt rely on starting gnome to install
[10:30] <Samuli^> errr.
[10:31] <paniq> i have trouble getting audio capture for my bt878 tv card to work
[10:31] <paniq> most sites tell me to load btaudio but that module doesnt seem to exist
[10:31] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  and one you have it installed on disk, you have options for adjusting the gnome/xorg configuration to get everything working
[10:31] <Samuli^> lilbit, <Flannel> Samuli^: only if he's got universe enabled (xchat is in uni) <-- what he said
[10:31] <rackerz> how can i completely reset my internet connection? (eth0)
[10:31] <__doc__> A slight problem with "gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images", any ideas?
[10:31] <roler> It works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:31] <Vaske_Car> Just installed LAMP and SSH. Where can I see directory structure and how to access apache directory to upload site?
[10:31] <lilbit> Samuli^:  does not show up, I must assume that I do not have the correct repositori installed, all I did was uncomment the ones in my sources.list that are there by default
[10:31] <Vaske_Car> For example if I try to access /etc directory i can not... no such file or directory
[10:31] <Flannel> Vaske_Car: in apache? or ssh?
[10:31] <Samuli^> lilbit, let me check.
[10:31] <roler> Thanks to whoever did that !action for me
[10:32] <Vaske_Car> via SSH
[10:32] <lee_> Hey, what are the best games for Linux?
[10:32] <pepinito> hi, just installed Dapper but my mouse hangs, any idea?
[10:32] <lee_> In your opinion
[10:32] <Gushy> hey guys
[10:32] <LadyNikon> lee_: get winex running and you can play anythign you want.
[10:32] <rody-DruAl> skippy81: ahh ok, i just wanted to 'not' install but run it from cd :S .. but that's just not an option i see.. Any ideas on a different Linux distribution maybe which can run from a cd?
[10:32] <Gushy> anyone know how I could get a default dovecot.conf back?  I deleted mine and reinstalling dovecot doesn't create a default dovecot.conf
[10:33] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  mephis has a decent live CD
[10:33] <lee_> I suppose that's true. I've got a couple games running on wine, I'm just wondering about native games
[10:33] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  although mephis itself i dont like
[10:33] <Samuli^> lilbit, I think you should see it with apt-cache search.. have you done sudo apt-get update after you uncommented the repos?
[10:33] <lee_> LadyNikon: wait... isn't winex cedega?
[10:33] <Flannel> Gushy: it should.  did you completely remove it? (configurations as well?)
[10:33] <Vaske_Car> Flannel, im connected to server via SSH but can not find ETC VAR and other directories
[10:33] <pepinito> somebody knows why the mouse freezes frequently?
[10:33] <rackerz> can someone tell me how to 'flush' my dns?
[10:34] <tristanmike> lee_: Cedega is the gui for winex
[10:34] <lilbit> Samuli^:  maybe that's my problem, I will attempt to actualize my repositori by running upodate
[10:34] <LadyNikon> lee_: yeah
[10:34] <rody-DruAl> skippy81 do you think that could work?
[10:34] <lilbit> Samuli^:  thank you, I will try that
[10:34] <Geoffrey2> is there any way to check which partition is which before I mount it?
[10:34] <ompaul> pepinito, mine has not frozen in dapper on either the notebook or the desktop, and the notebook only has one port for keyboard and mouse and I interchange them on the fly
[10:34] <rody-DruAl> skippy81 or is it just the same problem ?
[10:34] <rackerz> can someone tell me how to 'flush' my dns?
[10:34] <ribbedrabbit> hi there can some-one help??  My "Alcarte Menu Editor"  does not work.  It opens and then just dissapears before It gets to the first menu.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled it don't work?  Any suggestions.  I'm using edubuntu
[10:34] <skippy81> rody-DruAl:  i dont see why it wouldnt work, your problem obviously isnt that bad, isnce the kernel boots ok
[10:35] <avis> hello all
[10:35] <skippy81> just seems to be an xorg config issue
[10:35] <judah> rackerz: define flush... and "my dns" please. are you running bind yourself?
[10:35] <lee_> LadyNikon, tristanmike: where can I get winex?  I just tried apt-get
[10:35] <Ademan> anyone here running a subversion server?
[10:35] <lilbit> how does on remove a package via apt
[10:35] <judah> rackerz: or do you have stale look ups..
[10:35] <lilbit> would it be
[10:35] <roler> does ubuntu support the new metacity composite manager?
[10:35] <Flannel> Ademan: I am
[10:35] <lilbit> sudo apt-remove
[10:35] <rody-DruAl> ok, and mepis doesnt use xorg?
[10:35] <lilbit> sudo apt-get remove
[10:35] <Ademan> Flannel: are you able to walk me through setting it up? i tried a while back and utterly failed
[10:35] <rackerz> judah: well the thing is, i'm not sure about anything in linux to do with bind or the devices or anything themselves.
[10:35] <wastrel> metacity has a composite manager?
[10:35] <fialar> hi all.. anyone know how I would go about making a new, ubuntu like kernel for, say, 2.6.16?
[10:36] <fialar> 2.6.12 is too old for me
[10:36] <Gushy> Flannel, yeah I removed, and deleted the dovecot directory in etc.
[10:36] <Ademan> Flannel: i think its partly because version system terms confuse me sometimes
[10:36] <judah> rackerz: ok that means you're not running bind.
[10:36] <SystemBomber> Hey, I have wpasupplicant running in a terminal, is there anyway i can close the terminal but keep wpasupplicant running?
[10:36] <rackerz> judah: my problem is msn will not work in Ubuntu, it works in Windows. yesterday msn was working in Ubuntu.
[10:36] <zakann> Is there anyone who have an ATI's Motherboard here? with RADEON XPRESS 200 integrated?
[10:36] <judah> rackerz: ok.. you man it doesn't load in firefox?
[10:36] <fialar> SystemBomber: wpasupplicant -B
[10:36] <SystemBomber> ty :)
[10:36] <Flannel> Ademan: heh, this will help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Subversion
[10:36] <__doc__> Hi, need help with that "gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images"?
[10:36] <judah> rackerz: or you can connect to it at all via networking..
[10:37] <rody-DruAl> anyways, i'll try that
[10:37] <rody-DruAl> thanx for your help guys
[10:37] <rackerz> judah: kopete, gaim and aMSN wont connect to the MSN network
[10:37] <avis> rackerz, it could be the msn network itself or an an entire msn protocol change
[10:37] <judah> rackerz: and you think it's dns why?
[10:38] <ribbedrabbit> hi there can some-one help??  My "Alcarte Menu Editor"  does not work.  It opens and then just dissapears before It gets to the first menu.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled it don't work?  Any suggestions.  I'm using edubuntu
[10:38] <weew> is ubuntu using libc6 (glibc 2.2+)
[10:38] <fialar> any way I can get the nifty cool ubuntu bootup splash and initial ramdisk while running 2.6.16.20? I want to make my own kernel but with the ubuntu stuff in it
[10:38] <richiefrich> rackerz then they did someting to MSN again
[10:38] <Ademan> Flannel: thanks
[10:38] <Flannel> Ademan: and I can answer any questions you run into.
[10:38] <rackerz> judah: i changed some ports in my router earlier which caused problems. i sorted the ports out and had to flush my dns in windows to get msn to work.
[10:38] <richiefrich> rackerz  they always do... gaim works then they break it cause MSN sucks :)
[10:38] <twopeak> Could someone tell me how to edit preferences of screensavers in Dapper?
[10:38] <avis> and if thats the case the developers will be flooded with mail. heh
[10:38] <roler> Ok... now, how do I allow mp3 playing / wmv playing?
[10:39] <richiefrich> !mp3
[10:39] <ericz> rackerz: i can get onto msn with gaim.. works fine - can't be the protocol
[10:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:39] <richiefrich> roler  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:39] <avis> roler are yuo 32 bit ?
[10:39] <rackerz> ericz: exactly. that's what i thought
[10:39] <Ademan> Flannel: thanks
[10:39] <roler> avis; yes
[10:39] <lee_> Where can i get wine x?
[10:39] <skippy81> elvirolo:  press alt-f2 and type "kprinter" and hit enter
[10:39] <avis> richiefrich'
[10:39] <avis> his urp
[10:39] <majk3l> bhha
[10:39] <judah> rackerz: that doesn't make sense in linux. your machine will querry whatever machine is listed in /etc/resolv.conf every time a querry is made.
[10:39] <avis> url
[10:39] <majk3l> :(
[10:39] <weew> is ubuntu using libc6 (glibc 2.2+)
[10:39] <judah> rackerz: it sounds like your problem is at your border router.
[10:39] <__doc__> <a href="http://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&q=site%3Aubuntu.com+%22gnome-window-decorator%22&btnG=Suche&meta=">need help with gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images</a>
[10:39] <__doc__> arghl
[10:39] <avis> roler, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:40] <richiefrich> avis i gave that to the right person ?
[10:40] <richiefrich> i hope
[10:40] <__doc__> gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images
[10:40] <rackerz> judah: i don't understand though, in windows it works and earlier it was working in Ubuntu.
[10:40] <skippy81> elvirolo:  and read this page if you have problems http://printing.kde.org/faq/kdeprint.php#CanIuseKDEPrinttogetherwithGNOME
[10:40] <blaze> does anybody know how to configure s-video cable in ubuntu
[10:40] <pepinito> ompaul, mine has freezes 2 times
[10:40] <maikol> what is a "zombie" task
[10:40] <twopeak> How can I edit preferences of screensavers?
[10:40] <blaze> connected to tv
[10:40] <lee_> twopeak: Stand up and do a rain dance
[10:41] <ompaul> pepinito, is this a usb mouse?
[10:41] <majk3l> :7
[10:41] <tuxtheslacker> thank god for only having 15 mins. left of work. hahahha!
[10:41] <judah> rackerz: well unless you're running bind locally or some sort of dns forwarder and you're using 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf linux does NOT cache dns lookups.
[10:41] <twopeak> lee_: Tried that, do I have to be dressed in a straw dress for that?
[10:42] <Obst> hi dudes
[10:42] <Flannel> Gushy: don't delete the folder from etc, use apt-get remove --purge to remove the configuration files.  then you can reinstall fresh.
[10:42] <judah> rackerz: can you ping the machine you have configured in your applications from the commandline?
[10:42] <Obst> anyone knows how i can view windows .hlp files on ubuntu?
[10:42] <lee_> twopeak: no, but really gets the job done is wearing overalls and nothing else.... and if you want to get the coolest screensaver in the world, then you have to record it on video and upload it to the internet
[10:42] <Ademan> Flannel: in the wiki it says g+rws   shouldnt it be rwx?
[10:42] <majke> hmm
[10:42] <rackerz> judah: how do i reload the /etc/resolv.conf?
[10:43] <Gushy> Flannel, ok I'll give that a go
[10:43] <majke> lee_:  can i pm u ?
[10:43] <judah> rackerz: well are you using dhcp to get your network address?
[10:43] <lee_> majke: Uh, sure
[10:43] <l_r> hello
[10:43] <rackerz> judah: yes i am
[10:43] <Flannel> Ademan: yeah
[10:43] <l_r> why isn't drm working by default?
[10:43] <judah> rackerz: then 99% that file is being configured when you get your dhcp lease.
[10:44] <judah> rackerz: otherwise .. you can actually edit it by hand.
[10:44] <Gushy> Flannel, you're a star mate; that worked a treat. I'm certainly loving apt-get/debs compared to yum/rpm but it's taking some gettig used to!
[10:44] <dragonbyte> can anyone help me with why ubuntu is loading the right modules, but cant bring up more than 1 network card
[10:44] <Gushy> Flannel, thanks for your help.
[10:44] <skippy81> twopeak:  AFAIK gnome has rubbish options for setting screensavers, if you open gconf-editor though, and search for "screensave" you should find some keys you can adjust
[10:44] <musashiden> hey guys, before i install the newest and latest release of ubuntu, i would like to know something first.
[10:44] <l_r> direct rendering: No
[10:44] <l_r> why?
[10:44] <rackerz> judah: my ip never changes through DHCP though. it's always been 192.168.1.4
[10:44] <musashiden> does ubuntu work perfectly with a NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT ?
[10:44] <D-side> yes it sure does.
[10:44] <judah> rackerz: yes.. but it asks for a new address all the time.. your dhcp server always just gives it the same.
[10:44] <l_r> the drm module is loaded. there's a problem with x. and i even have a well supported matrox g400
[10:44] <jdmpike> how do I see what is using my sound card ? and why - WHY can't sound mix in ubuntu?
[10:44] <Flannel> Ademan: erm, no. no. s is right.
[10:44] <judah> rackerz: that's normal.
[10:45] <jdmpike> I don't flippin' get it!
[10:45] <musashiden> D-side: do you have the same card?
[10:45] <roc> can someone explain why I get a 'undefined reference to <function name>' everytime when I try to compile a file that uses math functions from math.h?
[10:45] <Ademan> Flannel: what's s then?
[10:45] <judah> rackerz: have you tried to ping the machien gaim is trying to connect to yet?
[10:45] <Ademan> Flannel: and also how do you delete a repository? just delete the files?
[10:45] <rackerz> judah: ah i see :). so there isn't an explanation for me not being able to connect to msn?
[10:45] <Flannel> Ademan: sets the userID on execution
[10:45] <rackerz> i'll ping it now
[10:45] <LeaChim> heya, i'm trying to use Xgl, but it isn't working. can anyone here give me a hand?
[10:45] <blaze> does anybody know how to configure s-video cable connected to tv?
[10:45] <skippy81> LeaChim:  have you followed a guide?
[10:45] <judah> rackerz: i'm sure there is an explanation. what i'm saying is it's not a dns cache problem on your local machine.
[10:45] <siriusnova> hey anyone using Dosbox 0,65?
[10:46] <roc> LeaChim: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:46] <judah> rackerz: what i'm saying is i think your problem is somewhere else.
[10:46] <Ademan> Flannel: what does that mean? (sorry, that "setuserID" concept never was clear to me)
[10:46] <judah> rackerz: ie your tweaking of your router.
[10:46] <roc> can someone explain why I get a 'undefined reference to <function name>' everytime when I try to compile a file that uses math functions from math.h?
[10:46] <skippy81> LeaChim:  you should type "top" from a terminal in gnome and see if "XGL" is running instaed of "XORG"
[10:46] <rackerz> judah: ok :). gaim is trying to connect to 'messenger.hotmail.com'. when i ping it, it says unknown host.
[10:46] <LeaChim> skippy81, the ubuntu guide said Xgl runs on top of xorg :/
[10:46] <lee_> LeaChimL go to #xgl
[10:46] <majke> :/
[10:46] <judah> rackerz: ok now we're getting somewhere.
[10:47] <musashiden> does ubuntu work perfectly with a NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT ?
[10:47] <Flannel> Ademan: yeah, just delete the folder.  you should read the svn book... let me get you the url.
[10:47] <bartman_> For compiling vanilla 2.6.16.20 is this a recommended patch: patch-2.6.16.20 in http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/ck/patches/2.6/2.6.16/2.6.16-ck12/patches ?
[10:47] <D-side> musashiden: i just answered that.
[10:47] <skippy81> LeaChim:  XGL should still be running and visible on "top" if it isnt then you arnt running it
[10:47] <Samuli^> LeaChim, well you can still use top to see if xgl is running at all.
[10:47] <roc> musashiden: atleast here it does...
[10:47] <musashiden> D-side: oh, sorry. i didnt know you were talking to me.
[10:47] <judah> rackerz: now type ... host messenger.hotmail.com
[10:47] <rackerz> judah: also login.oscar.aol.com (which is aim) wont connect either.
[10:47] <Flannel> Ademan: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/  there's even a 'quick setup' section
[10:47] <judah> rackerz: what about ping www.google.com ?
[10:47] <jdmpike> what the heck is wrong with sound in Linux?
[10:48] <rackerz> judah: Host messenger.hotmail.com not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[10:48] <jdmpike> why can't sound mix
[10:48] <Samuli^> jdmpike, are you using breezy?
[10:48] <rackerz> judah: PING www.l.google.com (66.249.93.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[10:48] <rackerz> 64 bytes from 66.249.93.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=239 time=35.6 ms
[10:48] <rackerz> 64 bytes from 66.249.93.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=239 time=35.5 ms
[10:48] <rackerz> 64 bytes from 66.249.93.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=239 time=35.4 ms
[10:48] <rackerz> 64 bytes from 66.249.93.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=239 time=57.9 ms
[10:48] <rackerz> 64 bytes from 66.249.93.99: icmp_seq=5 ttl=239 time=36.3 ms
[10:48] <roc> can someone explain why I get a 'undefined reference to <function name>' everytime when I try to compile a file that uses math functions from math.h?
[10:48] <Marineboy> hm, when I su -s it wont let me root myself i get this error.
[10:48] <jdmpike> Samuli^ nope - dapper
[10:48] <Marineboy> tj@majic:~$ su -s
[10:48] <Marineboy> su: option requires an argument -- s
[10:48] <Marineboy> Usage: su [OPTS]  [-]  [username [ARGS] ] 
[10:48] <Marineboy>         -       make this a login shell
[10:48] <Marineboy>         -c, --command=<command>
[10:48] <Marineboy>                 pass command to the invoked shell using its -c
[10:48] <Marineboy>                 option
[10:48] <judah> rackerz: ok. that means your dns server (outside your local machine) isn't working right.
[10:48] <Marineboy>        -m, -p, --preserve-environment
[10:48] <lilbit> I hid the menu bar, and I can't get up
[10:48] <Marineboy>                 do not reset environment variables, and keep the
[10:48] <Marineboy>                 same shell
[10:48] <jdmpike> Samuli^: I am on gstreamer 0.10
[10:48] <Samuli^> jdmpike, hmm, I thought they fixed that in dapper.
[10:48] <judah> rackerz: what's in your /etc/resolv.conf file right now?
[10:48] <skippy81> !pastebin
[10:48] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[10:49] <Marineboy>        -s, --shell=<shell>
[10:49] <Marineboy>                 use shell instead of the default in /etc/passwd
[10:49] <lilbit> I hid the menu bar, how do I unhide the menu bar?
[10:49] <Marineboy> tj@majic:~$
[10:49] <Ademan> Flannel: thanks, sorry it got burried in the flood
[10:49] <Flannel> Marineboy: don't use su
[10:49] <Flannel> Ademan: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/  there's even a 'quick setup' section
[10:49] <judah> it's AWESOME to try and track conversations in this channel.
[10:49] <sergiol> hello
[10:49] <judah> WICKED
[10:49] <Samuli^> jdmpike, that's just a back-end to play your mediafiles.
[10:49] <Marineboy> flannel what do i use?
[10:49] <Flannel> Marineboy: sudo
[10:49] <sergiol> how can i upgrade only the gcc package?
[10:49] <ayabara> if kubuntu is installed, can I do something like "apt-get ubuntu desktop" to get the gnome-desktop? I know it can be done the other way
[10:49] <comet> judah:  :-D
[10:49] <Marineboy> bah thx flannel.
[10:49] <LeaChim> skippy81, mind if i pm you?
[10:49] <Marineboy> whats the command to get kde?
[10:49] <jdmpike> Samuli^, everything should interface with it and it should be the only thing that accesses the sound card....
[10:49] <Samuli^> ayabara, sure.
[10:50] <rackerz> how do i stop it pinging?
[10:50] <Flannel> ayabara: yes.  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:50] <lilbit> I hid the xchat menu bar, how do I unhide the menu bar?
[10:50] <Marineboy> apt-get kde desktop right?
[10:50] <judah> rackerz: ctrl + c
[10:50] <maikol> Marineboy:kde-desktop
[10:50] <skippy81> ayabara:  use "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" its slightly better
[10:50] <rackerz> judah: ah. :)
[10:50] <Flannel> Marineboy, maikol, kubuntu-desktop
[10:50] <Samuli^> ayabara, point to consider is to use aptitude instead of apt-get so you can remove all of it if you don't like it.
[10:50] <maikol> Flannel: thanks
[10:50] <rackerz> judah: nameserver 192.168.1.1
[10:50] <ayabara> Flannel, Samuli^, skippy81: thanks
[10:50] <sergiol> how can i upgrade only the gcc package?
[10:50] <Marineboy> bah dont owrk.
[10:51] <comet> Marineboy: might as well just download Kubuntu
[10:51] <l_r> hello. i have a matrox g400, supported well by the kernel, but direct rendering is not working. the drm module is loaded. but the glxinfo does not report any drm feature. any idea?
[10:51] <judah> rackerz: i suggest focusing on why that device isn't resolving all of your dns requests.
[10:51] <sergiol> how can i update only the gcc package?
[10:51] <judah> rackerz: the problem is with 198.168.1.1
[10:51] <Marineboy> LOL, i cant get kubuntu.
[10:51] <skippy81> sergiol:  afaik both GCC is the same version in both breezy and dapper
[10:51] <LadyNikon> Marineboy: you dont want it anyways
[10:51] <LadyNikon> ;)
[10:51] <Marineboy> last 3 times i tryed to burn a .iso it messed up.
[10:51] <comet> Sergiol: have you tried the Synaptic Package Manager?
[10:51] <moparfan90> im running 6.6 whats my kernel path?
[10:51] <Marineboy> Lady: what get kubuntu?
[10:51] <judah> rackerz: try restarting that device with a power cycle.
[10:51] <LadyNikon> who needs KDM ;p
[10:51] <sergiol> i do apt-get update
[10:51] <comet> gnome ftw ;D
[10:51] <sergiol> and upgrade
[10:51] <Marineboy> Lady: KDE has a nicer layout then Gnome to me.
[10:52] <skippy81> moparfan90:  if you mean source path, the source isnt installed by default
[10:52] <rackerz> judah: powercycle?
[10:52] <Daemonic> the best layout ever is fvwm
[10:52] <comet> sergiol: synaptic is merely a frontend for apt-get... search for the package, the mark it for Upgrade.. should work just fine
[10:52] <judah> VI
[10:52] <judah> heh.
[10:52] <slimz> hi im trying to install dapper on my pc hooked up to my television, but when the installer begins, my tv goes out of range and i cant read anymore, i tried using the server install disc for text only, but the same thing happens, does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:52] <lilbit> I hid the xchat menu bar, how do I unhide the menu bar?
, i need the kernel source tree path... how do i get it then?
[10:52] <judah> rackerz: the dns forwarder service that is on your dsl router @ 192.168.1.1 isn't properly resolving those addresses.
[10:52] <Vaske_Car> where is vsftpd.conf located by default?
[10:53] <judah> rackerz: it's not your linux box from what i can tell.
[10:53] <skippy81> moparfan90:  use apt get and download the right source or header files for you kernel - you can find your kernel version out with "uname-r" from a terminal
[10:53] <comet> Slimz: i have my TV hooked up as well.. Once you have Ubuntu running, you must edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file with the "TwinView" option
[10:53] <judah> rackerz: generally my solution to lame dsl router problesm is to powercycle them!
[10:53] <Scorpmoon> When I click the "updates available" icon in systray, I am asked for a password.. IS this password not the same as I chose for my user login?
[10:53] <ayabara> is the question of kde vs gnome a find-out-what-you-like question, or is one just better then the other? wrong channel to ask this in I guess, but I do it anyway :-)
[10:53] <lilbit> I hid the xchat menu bar, how do I unhide?
[10:53] <skippy81> moparfan90:  sorry actually use synaptic and just search for source or headers
[10:53] <RichiH> ompaul: what is #ubuntu's policy on bots?
[10:53] <comet> slimz: what kind of video card do ya have?
[10:53] <slimz> comet : so i have to install ubuntu first, then hook it up to my television?
[10:53] <l_r>  i have a matrox g400, supported well by the kernel, but direct rendering is not working. the drm module is loaded in the kernel and xorg.cong reports a "load dri" string somewhere. but the glxinfo does not report any drm feature. any idea?
[10:53] <Dandre> hello
[10:53] <Daemonic> !ati
[10:53] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[10:53] <slimz> comet : ati radeon 8500
[10:53] <moparfan90> ok thanks
[10:54] <rackerz> judah: how would i powercycle them?
[10:54] <donfilipo> hello dapper is great only problem with 3d. On Armagetron i got an info that my Radeon 9000 is on AGP 1x and that's sure not good. It should be on 4x. Any idea how to fix the xorg.conf to achieve that?
[10:54] <jdmpike> why does sound mixing suck so bad in Linux?
[10:54] <jdmpike> I hate it
[10:54] <sergiol> i have gcc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[10:54] <comet> slimz: keep it all hooked up.. Ubuntu will "not" get your TV working by default.. there are files you'll need to edit
[10:54] <judah> rackerz: unplug it from the power source and then plug it back in..
[10:54] <RichiH> ompaul: on ones that act on sigils other bots already use, i might add
[10:54] <judah> rackerz: cycle the power.
[10:54] <comet> and you'll need ATI's Linux drivers
[10:54] <Dandre> I am trying to use eclipse with sunjdk1.5 but this does'nt work :-(
[10:54] <sergiol> and i have problems compiling scotty
[10:54] <judah> rackerz: swift kick to the jaw.
[10:54] <ompaul> RichiH, they should be easy to spot afik
[10:54] <maikol> has anyone gotten a game such as starcraft or warcraft running on ubuntu
[10:54] <ompaul> RichiH, care to give me the nicks?
[10:54] <Unenvarjo> yup
[10:54] <jdmpike> sorry about the rant - I just can't believe sound mixes so poorly
[10:54] <Scorpmoon> When I click the "updates available" icon in systray, I am asked for a password.. IS this password not the same as I chose for my user login?
[10:54] <Unenvarjo> maikol, yup
[10:54] <sergiol> do you recommend to me to downgrade the gcc version?
[10:55] <skippy81> maikol they both work under wine AFAIK
[10:55] <slimz> comet : its outputting something when the install starts, just it looks like its going over a refresh rate my television cant handle
[10:55] <jdmpike> maikol !wine
[10:55] <l_r> donfilipo, i have the same problem with 3d
[10:55] <maikol> awesome
[10:55] <l_r> donfilipo, hello. i have a matrox g400, supported well by the kernel, but direct rendering is not working. the drm module is loaded. but the glxinfo does not report any drm feature. any idea?
[10:55] <rackerz> judah: lol, well just so you know i have two routers. one acting as a switch
[10:55] <comet> Slimz thats just because the video card can output a certain amount of information as the computer is booting up.. however, it cannot view a fully graphical installation, or X-windows, without the proper drivers installed
[10:55] <RichiH> !define test
[10:55] <ubotu> RichiH: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:55] <Yvonne> Main Entry:1test
[10:55] <Yvonne> Pronunciation:'test
[10:55] <Yvonne> Function:noun
[10:55] <Yvonne> Etymology:Middle English, vessel in which metals were assayed, cupel, from Middle French, from Latin testum earthen vessel; akin to Latin testa earthen pot, shell
[10:55] <Bladedge> Hey guys, does anyone know how to set XMMS as the default audio player please? Thanks in advance
[10:55] <Yvonne> 1 a chiefly British : CUPEL b (1) : a critical examination, observation, or evaluation : TRIAL; specifically : the procedure of submitting a statement to such conditions or operations as will lead to its proof or disproof or to its acceptance or rejection  a test of a statistical hypothesis (2) : a basis for evaluation : CRITERION c : an ordeal or oath required as proof of conformity with a set of beliefs
[10:55] <guestie> Hey guys I just downloaded something (and IRC client) from synaptic but i have no idea how to launch the program... it didnt show up in any of my top menus and I'm a complete linux newb
[10:56] <Silencer> -test-
[10:56] <Silencer> n 1: any standardized procedure for measuring sensitivity or memory or intelligence or aptitude or personality etc; "the test was standardized on a large sample of students"  2: the act of testing something; "in the experimental trials the amount of carbon was measured separately"; "he called each flip of the coin a new trial"  3: the act of undergoing testing; "he survived the great test of battle"; "candidates must compete in a trial
[10:56] <Yvonne> 2 a : a means of testing: as (1) : a procedure, reaction, or reagent used to identify or characterize a substance or constituent (2) : something (as a series of questions or exercises) for measuring the skill, knowledge, intelligence, capacities, or aptitudes of an individual or group b : a positive result in such a test
[10:56] <Yvonne> 3 : a result or value determined by testing
[10:56] <Yvonne> Limit 3 definitions
[10:56] <mluser-laptop> Can someon here give me a tip on how to go about installing mplayer without having to compile it?
[10:56] <RichiH> ompaul: ok, those were more than expected..
[10:56] <comet> wow **scroll**
[10:56] <slimz> comet : so any suggestions?
[10:56] <stuNNed> anyone run ubuntu on ppc w/powerbook 12"?
[10:56] <skippy81> Bladedge:  just right click on your audio files of each different type, and tell them to use XMMS as their default player
[10:56] <sergiol> better:
[10:56] <stuNNed> i'm having troubles  with broadcom driver module, is there cvs for ppc?
[10:56] <comet> slimz: there are some great TV-OUT Howtos under the Ubuntu web forums in the topic
[10:56] <neutrinomass> guestie: What program is it ?
[10:56] <donfilipo> l_r wait a sec let me see my glxinfo...mine 3d works but freezes....but let us see
[10:57] <sergiol> i want to upgrade to gcc v4.1.1
[10:57] <comet> you must follow the instructions properly
[10:57] <sergiol> where can i get it?
[10:57] <slimz> comet : ok thanks ill try looking for them
[10:57] <guestie> neutrino, it's called ircii
[10:57] <ompaul> RichiH, not the way one expected
[10:57] <ompaul> by the way they were kicked for spam :)
[10:57] <comet> slimz: most setups are video-card specific.. everyone has to do something a little different
[10:57] <sergiol> i do not dind the download page in the official site
[10:57] <comet> slimz: feel free to stop back by for additional assistance if you find a good howto
[10:57] <sergiol> i did not find the download page in the official site
[10:57] <ompaul> RichiH, any others?
[10:57] <ompaul> :-)
[10:58] <ompaul> !test
[10:58] <ubotu> Passed.
[10:58] <ompaul> !botsnack
[10:58] <ubotu> :)
[10:58] <Bladedge> skippy81, how
[10:58] <Scorpmoon> When I click the "updates available" icon in systray, I am asked for a password.. IS this password not the same as I chose for my user login?
[10:58] <Scorpmoon> because I am told password is wrong
[10:58] <RichiH> ompaul: think not
[10:58] <ompaul> @test
[10:58] <Bladedge> skippy81, oh got it, thanks :)
[10:58] <skippy81> Bladeedge, just right click on a music file and select properties, then open with
[10:58] <skippy81> :) good
[10:58] <avis> everyone, i notice in dapper the normal sounds that were native to previous version of gnome are no longer existant and i see that the sound adjustment has a bunch of labels a a number of sounds for gnome.  i just want thinks back to the old fashioned way
[10:59] <neutrinomass> guestie: It intentionally doesn't show in the menus because it does not have a GUI (i.e. a "window" and nice graphics). To run it, open up a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal, assuming you are on Ubuntu) and type 'ircii'
[10:59] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: that depends, are you using the user you created when you installed Ubuntu?
[10:59] <Agrajag> Or did you create another one to use?
[10:59] <skippy81> Bladedge:  you will have to do it for each different type ie .ogg .mp3 etc
[10:59] <judah> rackerz: you survived!
[10:59] <donfilipo> l_r you probaly mean dri module whuch says you have the SGI Mesa driver...am i right?
[10:59] <Scorpmoon> Agra, yes, that user
[10:59] <Scorpmoon> only one
[10:59] <guestie> neutrino, it doesn't have a GUI?  i guess thats what it meant by "text based"... and i thought that redundant lol
[10:59] <avis> guestie, you can also drop to console login and run it
[10:59] <Goebels> heil !
[10:59] <Bladedge> Yeah, thanks a lot :)
[10:59] <guestie> can you recommend an IRC client for visual learners
[10:59] <guestie> i dont like gaim for IRC
[11:00] <comet> Konversation isn't bad
[11:00] <skippy81> xchat irc guestie
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> i get failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager "Wrong password"
[11:00] <neutrinomass> guestie: xchat-gnome ? x-chat itself ?
[11:00] <SystemBomber> also whats a good client for MSN
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> please help me
[11:00] <avis> guestie yes xchat-gnome :)  or just xchat :)
[11:00] <Goebels> |  |__   ____ |__|  |   |  |__ |__|/  |_|  |   ___________| |
[11:00] <Goebels> |  |  \_/ __ \|  |  |   |  |  \|  \   __\  | _/ __ \_  __ \ |
[11:00] <Goebels> |   Y  \  ___/|  |  |__ |   Y  \  ||  | |  |_\  ___/|  | \/\|
[11:00] <Goebels> |___|  /\___  >__|____/ |___|  /__||__| |____/\___  >__|   __
[11:00] <Goebels>      \/     \/               \/                   \/       \/
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> do I need to run that with sudo?
[11:00] <Goebels> :))
[11:00] <SystemBomber> ..woah
[11:00] <rackerz> judah: well i think i got somewhere, i did a 'sudo ifup eth0' and when i pinged the msn messenger server it recognised it. but recieve no packets
[11:00] <guestie> kk thanks, ill run and get that then
[11:00] <rackerz> judah: 100% packet loss :(
[11:00] <skippy81> lol i spell a kck
[11:00] <neutrinomass> SystemBomber: I use Gaim ... :)
[11:00] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: it does use sudo, gksudo is what asks for your password there
[11:00] <judah> rackerz: i think they're actually filtering pings.
[11:00] <skippy81> i didnt know you got Nazi geeks lol
[11:00] <SystemBomber> apart from gaim neutrinomass :P
[11:00] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: can you run other programs with sudo from the terminal?
[11:00] <l_r> donfilipo, not sure.. i have problem running games like tuxracer, it's too slow. for some reason my x server does not load any direct rendering module
[11:00] <avis> everyone had my typo disease ! :)
[11:00] <judah> rackerz: same happens for me. but it sounds like it resovled just fine this time.
[11:00] <comet> isn't Goebells a nazi?
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> ill try
[11:00] <avis> has ! had !  hahahah
[11:01] <skippy81> comet, yeah nazi propoganda minister
[11:01] <roc> why I get this kind of error when I'm trying to compile a .cpp file: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory
[11:01] <rackerz> judah: however aim doesn't resolve. still says it can't find host :(
[11:01] <comet> skippy81: whew.. scary how someone would nick themselves that
[11:01] <Daemonic> anyone here use ess.tv's video streams in Linux?
[11:01] <neutrinomass> l_r: For your information, tuxracer is slow for everybody and has been this way for several years AFAIK
[11:01] <judah> rackerz: ok. which of your two routers did you reboot? both? or just one?
[11:01] <cdubya> quick question, I hope: could I boot the alternate CD and run gparted to resize the ntfs partition without totally wacking it out......?
[11:01] <skippy81> comet: yeah even scarier the sad git spent ages making Nazi asci art :(
[11:01] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:01] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:02] <Scorpmoon> agra, im all new to linux.. tell me a program I could run with sudo
[11:02] <Marineboy> !opensshd
[11:02] <ubotu> Marineboy: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:02] <Marineboy> !ssh
[11:02] <Scorpmoon> i dont know where things are at
[11:02] <ubotu> ssh is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[11:02] <skippy81> cdubya: there would be a fair amount of risk involved
[11:02] <rackerz> judah: i just ran a command thats all, i'm going to reboot them now.
[11:02] <cdubya> bummer.
[11:02] <cdubya> :-/
[11:02] <l_r> l_r, ? i remember i could play it without problems
[11:02] <judah> rackerz: on sec.
[11:02] <roc> I love it when you have to solve a problem quicky and no one is willing to help you...
[11:02] <donfilipo> l_r look at the glrxinfo you should see the driver there...if it si silicon graphics mesa then you have so called open ati driver...and must enable dri if you see something else then...we must see what it is
[11:02] <neutrinomass> Anybody with a USB ADSL modem in here ?
[11:02] <mcp> hello
[11:02] <l_r> neutrinomass,  i remember i could play it without problems
[11:02] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: try "sudo touch /"
[11:02] <avis> roc just state the problem if no one answers give it another 10 minutes
[11:02] <guestie> mission accomplished, I'm on xchat now
[11:03] <cdubya> roc, what is the problem
[11:03] <czer323> cdubya> THe only program I've used for paritioning drives is Parition Magic.  I think it works great, but it's not free.
[11:03] <rackerz> judah: is that one sec? or see you in a sec. lol
[11:03] <judah> rackerz: ping 64.12.200.89
[11:03] <skippy81> roc scrolling up you havnt even asked a question for 5 minutes lol
[11:03] <judah> rackerz: can you do that?
[11:03] <neutrinomass> l_r: I have tried it on 3 computers, to no avail :( Maybe I was just unlucky ...
[11:03] <l_r> donfilipo, i have a matrox card. let me see glxinfo for other infos
[11:03] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: if it gives you no error messages it worked
[11:03] <roc> cdubya: why I get this kind of error when I'm trying to compile a .cpp file: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory
[11:03] <l_r> neutrinomass, yes, i think so
[11:03] <cdubya> roc, what is the command you're issuing to compile?
[11:03] <rackerz> judah: indeed, i can ping it. reciving packets
[11:03] <roc> skippy81: I have asked SEVERAL questions past the prevous five minutes
[11:04] <mandy-o-matic> hallo
[11:04] <rackerz> judah: 16 packets transmitted, 16 received, 0% packet loss, time 15013ms
[11:04] <rackerz> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 94.772/117.430/273.854/47.881 ms
[11:04] <roc> cdubya: gcc <filepath>
[11:04] <guestie> can somebody say my name so i can check something out
[11:04] <Comet> gcc -o
[11:04] <judah> rackerz: ok. that proves that you're having resolv issues with your other devices.. that's the ip address for login.oscar.aol.com
[11:04] <roc> guestie: mha?
[11:04] <judah> rackerz: the aim login server.
[11:04] <Scorpmoon> agra, that works
[11:04] <LeaChim> skippy81, can i pm you?
[11:04] <ompaul> guestie, now if your client highlights your nick so be it
[11:04] <cdubya> roc: try g++ -o output_filename sourcefile
[11:04] <Scorpmoon> then what could be the problem?
[11:04] <Agrajag> roc: if it's a c++ file, use g++, not gcc
[11:04] <guestie> thanks roc... didn't make a sound like id want it to
[11:04] <judah> time for me to go to the gym.
[11:04] <rackerz> judah: i see, so what steps would i need to take to fix the resolve issues? is it likely to be my router?
[11:04] <cdubya> yeah, you need to use g++
[11:04] <skippy81> LeaChim:  of course, you have to be registered to pm though
[11:04] <mandy-o-matic> bitte gib mir helfen wegen intsallieren fr frostwire
[11:05] <roc> guestie: np
[11:05] <TLE> Just installed Dapper(fresh install) only to find out that I have no internet when I boot. Going in network-admin it shows that eth0 is activated (but it does not work), now if I deactivate it and then reactivate it, it works !? I can also make it work with sudo ifdown eth0 sudo ifup eth0. But on next boot it is the same story. Does anybody have an idea on how to fix this ?
[11:05] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: uh, beats me actually. What happens when you run "gksudo update-manager"?
[11:05] <roc> cdubya: okay trying...
[11:05] <judah> rackerz: it's indeed likely to be your router(s)
[11:05] <nickrud> mandy-o-matic, try #ubuntu-de
[11:05] <judah> rackerz: reboot them. see if it clears..
[11:05] <Scorpmoon> ill try tat
[11:05] <LeaChim> skippy81, if you're not registered you can't join this channel :P
[11:05] <judah> rackerz: then go from there.
[11:05] <rackerz> judah: ok i'll see you soon :)
[11:05] <donfilipo> l_r uuuu sorry i thought you had the ati card as i...well i now nothing about matrox but probably you need the right driver for matrox and enable it in xorg.conf
[11:05] <judah> good luck.
[11:05] <roc> cdubya: g++ command not found
[11:05] <judah> rackerz: i'll be back laterz.
[11:05] <rackerz> thankyou :)
[11:05] <cdubya> roc, then you need to install it
[11:05] <skippy81> LeaChim:  im not registered and im in it :)
[11:05] <cdubya> roc, have you done a build-essential?
[11:05] <rackerz> judah: ok no problem, i'll try catch yiou
[11:05] <Agrajag> roc: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:05] <avis> how do i get ubuntu to manually modprobe my monitor for its correct refresh rates i seemed to have lost that in my notes.
[11:05] <LeaChim> skippy81, interesting. shouldn't be possible
[11:05] <skippy81> LeaChim:  try pming me, i havnt seen anything yet
[11:06] <cdubya> roc, do what Agrajag said. :-) beat me to the punch
[11:06] <czer323> TLE> While i've experienced the issue, after the first time of taking it down, it was fine.  On my second install on the same computer, the issue didnt' exist.  Sorry I can't be of much help.
[11:06] <Scorpmoon> agra, for some odd reason it works now
[11:06] <Agrajag> Scorpmoon: that's weird
[11:06] <roc> cdubya: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:06] <roc> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:06] <roc> cdubya: I got those errors...
[11:06] <gnomefreak> roc: close synaptic
[11:06] <Samuli^> Agrajag, are you swedish by any chance?
[11:06] <cdubya> roc, you've got dpkg going somewhere
[11:06] <Agrajag> roc: Are you running synaptic or the update manager?
[11:06] <nf4> has any one got electric sheep to work with 6.06
[11:07] <cdubya> whichever one you're using, you need to close it, roc
[11:07] <Agrajag> Samuli^: only a tiny tiny bit, I'm mostly italian and irish
[11:07] <roc> cdubya: okay now it is updating...
[11:07] <mandy-o-matic> mglichkeit speichern  fr frostwire
[11:07] <cdubya> then issue the command...then follow that with man g++
[11:07] <gnomefreak> !de
[11:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[11:07] <Samuli^> Agrajag, You live in sweden, though?
[11:07] <Marineboy> !gaim
[11:07] <ubotu> I guess gaim is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto
[11:07] <Agrajag> no, I live in California
[11:07] <d34db14ck> how can i dail again my pppoe connection if it drops?
[11:07] <daveyj> hello
[11:07] <cdubya> and read the docs there....it will give you alot of insight on the different options for compiling with that command
[11:07] <``666> hi all
[11:07] <neutrinomass> I badly need someone with an Alcatel USB ADSL modem .... thanks .
[11:07] <``666> anybody can help me about ubuntu & ps/2 mice ? i've a laptop with a touchpad, but when i plug the ps/2 mouse in, it doesn't work
[11:07] <TLE> czer323: thanx for your answer. It is wierd though, it works fine on the Live cd !? Oh weel
[11:08] <Samuli^> Agrajag, o-kay, I thought you were someone else, but it's good to see more hitch hikers guide to galaxy fans :P
[11:08] <donfilipo> l_r so if you look in synaptic you should have xserver-xorg-driver-mga installed and under xorg.conf driver section should be mga...i guess
[11:08] <docta_v> ``666: ps/2 mice aren't hot pluggable
[11:08] <Agrajag> Samuli^: indeed
[11:08] <stjepan> is it possible to transform Firefox themes into GTK themes?
[11:08] <mandy-o-matic> #join ubuntu
[11:08] <czer323> TLE> Yeah, i've seen a bucnh of people with the issue.  I just kinda read the channel.  I'm not really that savvy with linux yet. ;)
[11:08] <``666> docta_v: same behaviour with plugging mouse on start
[11:08] <Comet> ``666: if you want to use a PS/2 you're probably gonna have to change the symlink @ /dev/mouse and point it to /dev/psaux
[11:08] <d34db14ck> how can i dail pppoe if it drops?
[11:08] <dunnil> hello
[11:08] <cdubya> neutrinomass, did you ask your question
[11:09] <Comet> but then you're touchpad wont work
[11:09] <nickrud> d34db14ck, how did you set up your pppoe (I hope pppoeconf)
[11:09] <``666> Comet: rm -rf /dev/mouse, ln -s /dev/mouse /dev/psaux ?
[11:09] <Paradosso> has someone experimented problems with gnome volume control in dapper?
[11:09] <Comet> ``666: that should do it ;)
[11:09] <dunnil> guys, what's the best rss reader on ubuntu?
[11:09] <d34db14ck> nickrud:  sure
[11:09] <Comet> then restart X
[11:09] <roc> cdubya: okay now it works, thanks alot... though I don't know if my original problem is solved yet...
[11:09] <d34db14ck> nickrud:  i set it to start on boot
[11:09] <docta_v> ``666: you can also edit your xorg.conf
[11:09] <nickrud> d34db14ck, sudo pon in a terminal
[11:09] <cdubya> roc, np
[11:09] <andax> is there a workaround for the "fgrlx could not register endpoint" bug?
[11:09] <``666> docta_v: and ?
[11:09] <cdubya> roc, what was the original problem
[11:09] <``666> docta_v: what changes i've to do?
[11:09] <d34db14ck> nickrud:  ty
[11:10] <docta_v> ``666: add another pointer that points to /dev/psaux...or change the /dev/mouse one
[11:10] <nickrud> d34db14ck, poff will drop it if you want
[11:10] <kbrosnan> stjepan, you would need to find out if the icons are copyrighted, then unzip the theme and then do the conversion into a gnome theme including creating new icons
[11:10] <``666> oh..
[11:10] <neutrinomass> cdubya: It's not so much of a question. I'm working on getting USB adsl modems work out-of-the-box for Ubuntu, but I only own an Accessrunner :(
[11:10] <``666> well, i will try that one
[11:10] <mandy-o-matic> wegen englisch fr mich bisschen schwer
[11:10] <donfilipo> hello dapper is great only problem with 3d. On Armagetron i got an info that my Radeon 9000 is on AGP 1x and that's sure not good. It should be on 4x. Any idea how to fix the xorg.conf to achieve that?
[11:10] <cdubya> neutrinomass, ah.....
[11:10] <roc> cdubya: It was that I got always an 'undefined reference to <function name>' error when I used the math.h files functions in a C code...
[11:11] <avis> my dsl modem is pure ethernet
[11:11] <neutrinomass> cdubya: Do you own a USB DSL modem ?
[11:11] <cdubya> roc, what func were you calling?
[11:11] <tks> /say ip
[11:11] <roc> cdubya: sqrt and pow
[11:11] <TLE> czer323: Me neither, the funny thing is, that if the ifdown/ifup works every time, then I though that it would be possible to add those commands somewhere in the startup scripts. But it probably isn't that simple since, as you said, there are "many" with this problem
[11:11] <mandy-o-matic> brauche deutsch insallieren von frostwire auf deskopt speichern
[11:11] <neutrinomass> avis: The ethernet ones have no problems :) It's the USB ones that are causing all the headaches ...
[11:11] <cdubya> neutrinomass, no, I was just wondering because I just googled for it
[11:11] <nickrud> I just plugged in my new ethernet dsl modem, and it simply worked. Nice
[11:11] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:11] <``666> docta_v: wtf... I already have a device that points to /dev/psaux. it's the touchpad.
[11:11] <d34db14ck> nickrud:  good to know
[11:11] <sergiol> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelo
[11:11] <sergiol> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelpppppppppppppp
[11:11] <dunnil> anyone here uses RSS Reader on ubuntu?
[11:12] <sergiol> yes
[11:12] <roc> cdubya: the problem goes away if I link any library to it... even opengl library does the job...
[11:12] <sergiol> the Opera Browser
[11:12] <dunnil> what
[11:12] <l_r> donfilipo, server glx vendor string: SGI
[11:12] <roc> cdubya: but it is kind of stupid to link external libraries that you don't even use...
[11:12] <dunnil> what's the best rss reader out there?
[11:12] <Agrajag> roc: getting a bit offtopic, but if you want to use C math.h functions in a C++ program you need to #include <cmath> I think, not math.h
[11:12] <neutrinomass> cdubya: If I owned one I would get it running. But writing stuff for devices you don't own is kinda tricky, you've got to be sure the docs are 100% accurate :)
[11:12] <sergiol> Opera browser for me
[11:12] <sergiol> :P
[11:12] <gnomefreak> sergiol: please stop with the repeat letters
[11:13] <roc> Agrajag: I'm trying to use math.h functions in a C program
[11:13] <nickrud> dunnil, I like liferea, simple but good usability
[11:13] <cdubya> neutrinomass, agreed.
[11:13] <Agrajag> roc: oh ok
[11:13] <avis> i'm glad i had installed XGL as a script.  it does take up a bit of resources.  and i'm on a p4 2.4 with 1 gig ram.
[11:13] <Agrajag> weird then
[11:13] <docta_v> ``666: hmmm...must be a diff device then
[11:13] <docta_v> not sure what
[11:13] <jdmpike> why is firefox holding up /dev/dsp?
[11:13] <MLHelp> I need some bigtime help
[11:13] <cdubya> roc, and you're calling the func correctly and passing the right number of params, right?
[11:13] <roc> cdubya: indeed I am
[11:13] <cdubya> k
[11:13] <nf4> whats the best way to make the cpu temps rise in ubuntu
[11:14] <jdmpike> ohhh - I hate linux sound right now - it is totally getting the best of me
[11:14] <roc> jdmpike: why?
[11:14] <cdubya> roc, did you include it as <math.h> or <cmath> ?
[11:14] <``666> docta_v: well.. i've 2 input pointer devices
[11:14] <roc> cdubya: <math.h>
[11:14] <WildZeck> hi all
[11:14] <cdubya> k
[11:14] <``666> docta_v: one is known as "Configured Mouse" and it points to /dev/input/mice
[11:14] <jdmpike> roc, its inability to mix properly
[11:14] <edgarin> Hi to all I have a problem
[11:14] <nickrud> nf4, run a graphical modelling program or the like
[11:14] <WildZeck> i've got a problem upgrading to dapper
[11:14] <MLHelp> I need a master source list for dapper
[11:14] <MLHelp> the default one
[11:14] <nf4> i have had two sessions of sprime runing while stress was running with 800 cpu hogs  use 1800Mb for 9hrs and temps barely got 42C
[11:14] <MLHelp> keeps screwing up
[11:14] <cdubya> roc, that is kinda weird
[11:14] <MLHelp> for me
[11:14] <avis> how do i get ubuntu to manually modprobe my monitor for its correct refresh rates i seemed to have lost that in my notes.
[11:15] <``666> docta_v: the other one names "Synaptic Touchpad" and points to /dev/psaux
[11:15] <jdmpike> roc, right now firefox has /dev/dsp tied up
[11:15] <edgarin> I have a server with hard disks scsi but.. when the system load the ubuntu shows errors
[11:15] <lordgreg> hi there- i'm just installing JBuilder on my computer and would like to know, if there is any default directory in which i should install jbuilder? installer offers my  /home/user/Borland/JBuilder2005.
[11:15] <edgarin> of SD
[11:15] <donfilipo> l_r that probably means that SGI makes the open drivers for all cards....you need to look in xorg.conf wich driver you have enabled we both have all installed
[11:15] <edgarin> mmm what is this?
[11:15] <eigenlambda> ok how to set what program opens what files in gnome?  its not in preferred applications...
[11:15] <roc> jdmpike: sounds a bit too difficult to me... :D
[11:15] <Unitg1|EoL|> hi guys im having a problem with vlc player specifically the x264 codec ( the image is all artifacted) any alternatives? movie player play the video fine but it has no audio
[11:15] <MLHelp> can someone send me a good master source list
[11:15] <eigenlambda> i would like to use mplayer instead of totem because totem sucks rocks
[11:15] <WildZeck> he told me that /dev/ttyX are missing, and lv2 cannot install !! how to correct that please ?
[11:15] <cdubya> !easysource
[11:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:15] <MLHelp> or paste it in #MLHelp
[11:15] <cdubya> MLHelp
[11:15] <cdubya> ^
[11:15] <WildZeck> that's the problem
[11:15] <MLHelp> I used Source O Matic to generate my CURRENT ONE
[11:15] <nickrud> !sources
[11:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:16] <MLHelp> it still doesn't work
[11:16] <jdmpike> roc, yeah - I don't understand it... It seems like there should be a single process that interacts with the sound card, and all of the other processes talk to it
[11:16] <cdubya> heh
[11:16] <MLHelp> I have read all of that as well
[11:16] <MLHelp> I wouldn't come here without atleast doing some basic research
[11:16] <czer323> !EasyUbuntu
[11:16] <l_r> donfilipo, i think i am near to the solution. basically, the agpgart and drm modules are _NOT_ loaded by any script in ubuntu. now they are, i think restarting the server would be ok. let me try. brb
[11:16] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[11:16] <andax> is there a fix/workaround for the "fglrx could not register entrypoint" bug?
[11:16] <nickrud> MLHelp, the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 for dapper
[11:16] <docta_v> ``666: i think it will be /dev/ttyS1 or possibly S2 or S0
[11:16] <docta_v> i'm not sure about that though
[11:16] <roc> jdmpike: well the linux sounds systems have always been a little bit tricky... though it got a little bit better with the dapper release...
[11:16] <``666> hm
[11:16] <czer323> EasyUbuntu will open up your repositorieis to Universe and Multiverse as well.
[11:16] <jdmpike> roc, I am running dapper - I don't think it is better at all
[11:16] <``666> docta_v: could I try with a "cat /dev/ttyS1" command ?
[11:17] <jdmpike> roc, do you know how it is better?
[11:17] <``666> docta_v: moving the mouse...
[11:17] <docta_v> ``666: possibly... i'm pretty sure it'll be one of those ttySX devices
[11:17] <roc> jdmpike: well according to my bro he could hear sounds from multiple sources (apps) and atleast to me the sounds are a bit smoother, maybe a bit filtered now
[11:17] <rackerz> judah:
[11:18] <roc> jdmpike: before it was not possible for multiple sound sources to pass... only one at a time...
[11:18] <Unitg1|EoL|> anyone know how to get video: h.264/avc working on VLC player or audio: MPEG-4 AAC on movie player
[11:18] <rackerz> judah you there?
[11:18] <jdmpike> roc, what are the multiple sources? I can't use beep and another application
[11:18] <roc> Unitg1|EoL|: don't know but mplayer should be able to do that
[11:18] <roc> jdmpike: hmm well then I don't know...
[11:18] <Unitg1|EoL|> roc: video works but no audio
[11:18] <MLHelp> will easy ubuntu alter my sourcelist?
[11:18] <``666> docta_v: nothing... "Input/output error"
[11:19] <``666> i can't "cat"
[11:19] <czer323> MLHelp> i've read that it should.  Check the site.
[11:19] <czer323> !easyubuntu
[11:19] <ubotu> easyubuntu is, like, totally, an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[11:19] <roc> roc out... see ya fellas and thanks for yer help ;)
[11:19] <roler> ok I got mp3s going, how can I get wmv's playing? does ubuntu have a codecs package?
[11:19] <Flannel> !tell roler about restrictedformats
[11:19] <Unitg1|EoL|> any idea how to get MPEG-4 AAC audio working on mplayer?
[11:20] <cdubya> roc, it looks like the fix is to link it to the math library itself....I keep seeing those kind of errors related to not linking to the library itself, and they were all solved by adding the -lm at the end of the command
[11:20] <MLHelp> HOLY CRAP, easy ubuntu is my new Lord and Savior
[11:21] <DaveyJ> i cant change my damn refresh rate :(
[11:21] <czer323> Roler> I think EasyUbuntu will do it, but I'm really not sure.  I haven't tried any wmv files.
[11:21] <DaveyJ> its stuck at 75 and i wanna bring it down to 60
[11:21] <luc1fersflowers> i have a particularily odd problem with my ipw2915, it's recognized, says it's working and enabled yet when i go to connect it try's to aquire network info from a subnet of 255.255.255.255 not 255.255.255.0 any ideas?
[11:21] <cvp> Excuse me, can anyone here help me with hyperthreading issues in Dapper Drake?
[11:21] <AlienX> DaveyJ, sure you can, just edit your xorg.conf
[11:21] <nickrud> DaveyJ, have you looked at !fixres, link below
[11:21] <nickrud> !fixres
[11:21] <mandy-o-matic> wo soll ich finden fr frostwire insallieren ffner
[11:21] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:21] <nickrud> mandy-o-matic,   "  /join #ubuntu-de  "
[11:21] <DaveyJ> !fixres
[11:21] <DaveyJ> ?
[11:22] <WINBALL> ok seriously, It seems like I can't install anything with apt-get, I can't do ./configure or make either
[11:22] <nickrud> DaveyJ, herm, a sec
[11:22] <cvp> can anyone here help me with hyperthreading issues in Dapper Drake?
[11:22] <DaveyJ> i dont even see anything in xorg.conf about refreshrate
[11:22] <bderrly> WINBALL, what are you trying to do?
[11:22] <DaveyJ> also, does it matter i'm using xgl?
[11:23] <nickrud> DaveyJ, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto That howto will apply to XGL also
[11:23] <Fr4ntic> This may sound wierd, but how do I start IRSSI? I have instlled it via Synaptic
[11:23] <czer323> WINBALL> easy question first then, are you using sudo apt-get?
[11:23] <DaveyJ> excellent :) thank you
[11:23] <DaveyJ> i'm gunna go check it out
[11:23] <WINBALL> bderrly install .tar.gz, etc
[11:23] <cdubya> cvp, just ask your question and if someone knows the answer, they'll kick in....:-)
[11:23] <WINBALL> I can execute the files, but no more
[11:23] <czer323> fr4ntic> it's something you want to run from a terminal window.
[11:23] <bderrly> WINBALL, that makes no sense
[11:23] <bderrly> brb
[11:24] <Fr4ntic> czer323, oh :o
[11:24] <WINBALL> bderrly I know
[11:24] <danfg> KDE or Gnome?
[11:24] <WINBALL> gnome
[11:24] <``666> docta_v: no more ideas ? :P
[11:24] <luc1fersflowers> is there a channel for wireless under Dapper Drake
[11:24] <Ademan> Flannel: are there any GUI svn clients like rapidsvn in the ubuntu repositories? or do i hafta install from source?
[11:25] <eigenlambda> ne1 know how to change default apps in gnome?
[11:25] <docta_v> ``666: create a new pointer device with /dev/ttyS1 using the IMPS/2 protocol (assuming it's a wheel mouse otherwise just PS/2)
[11:25] <cvp> I have a P4 processor, and I saw that installing linux kernel 2.6.15-23-686-smp would enable hyperthreading, and when I attempted to install that kernel, I only got 686 (non-smp). I found out later that this was because Ubuntu discontinued the -smp stuff because of security reasons, but it said that hyperthreading can be enabled by booting the kernel with "ht=on" tagged on.
[11:25] <cvp> That being said, how do I about doing that?
[11:25] <docta_v> ``666: if that doesn't work then try S2 then S0
[11:26] <docta_v> you can also try running one of the x autconfig programs
[11:26] <danfg> cvp: boot params are passed on by grub/lilo on startup
[11:26] <docta_v> auto
[11:26] <``666> docta_v: as ?
[11:26] <mandy-o-matic> dagegen windows und linux ubuntu erffnet
[11:26] <czer323> luc1fersflowers> the only thing I can really make a suggestion is to install NetworkManager.  There's a how to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager  it really helped me out.  This is way easier to manage now.
[11:26] <ompaul> !de
[11:26] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[11:26] <docta_v> ``666: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:26] <Cin> Hello. I'm having X crashes and I'm trying to find the cause.
[11:27] <Flannel> Ademan: I don't know.  rapidsvn is in repos.  so is esvn, but esvn is poo.
[11:27] <cvp> danfg: right, I tagged on "ht=on" to the end of the kernel string in GRUB, so that it read "vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-686 ro quiet splash ht=on" but that didn't do anything.
[11:27] <docta_v> but you'll have to edit the config manually if that doesn't work
[11:27] <cvp> Do I need to somehow get the *686-smp?
[11:27] <Cin> When it crashes I can move my mouse, and ping my machine from another computer. But I can't do Ctrl + Alt + Backspace, or anything else.
[11:27] <WildZeck> why migrating to dapper when i reboot , everything freeze and i've got no console tty ?
[11:27] <danfg> cvp: sorry i'm a n00b
[11:27] <gnomefreak> mandy-o-matic: #ubuntu-de
[11:27] <cvp> danfg: Thanks for trying, anyway. :)
[11:27] <danfg> !br
[11:27] <StAnLeY^> hey, does anyone know if there is a way to sync iPAQ with ubuntu ?
[11:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:27] <docta_v> cvp: yes you need an smp kernel for hyperthreading
[11:28] <Ademan> thanks Flannel
[11:28] <nickrud> !tell mandy-o-matic about de
[11:28] <danfg> cvp: np
[11:28] <cvp> docta_v: Do you know where I can download one?
[11:28] <czer323> danfg> there's a huge influx of us newbs. :)  Newbs gotta stick together.
[11:28] <Cin> I'm on Xorg7, is this known to be unstable? Or unstable on Dapper?
[11:28] <docta_v> assuming the included one doesn't support it
[11:28] <ompaul> mandy-o-matic, this is an english language channel
[11:28] <danfg> czer323: ubuntu is n00b-friendly :)
[11:28] <docta_v> cvp: apt-cache search image should fine something
[11:28] <cvp> Cin: Xorg7 is far superior.
[11:28] <docta_v> cvp: apt-cache search image|grep smp
[11:29] <delire> hmm, change the panel size and Gnome no longer starts up. anyone else noticed this in Dapper?
[11:29] <Cin> cvp, so I've been told. Can you make any suggestions?
[11:29] <czer323> danfg> Well, i gotta admit, I'
[11:29] <delire> the only fix i can see is to rm or mv the ~/.gconf* directories..
[11:30] <danfg> guys, evolution, kmail or thunderbird?
[11:30] <cvp> docta_v: Output gets kernel-image 2.4.27-2-686-smp as latest... is that too far outdated?
[11:30] <czer323> danfg> Well, i gotta admit, I've installed linux about once a year just to see how far it's progressing.  I couldn't see using it for everday use, but... I'm going to migrate my laptop over to just Dapper now.  And slowly start pushing myself to learn more.
[11:30] <glenn_steen> danfg: thunderbird, always thunderbird
[11:30] <cvp> Cin: What do you need help with? Installing ATI drivers or something?
[11:30] <TMPhillips> I like Thunderbird myself
[11:31] <danfg> czer323: same here, i've tried many times too, this time it's for real :)
[11:31] <docta_v> cvp: yea that's really old...hmm
[11:31] <simonpca> plop
[11:31] <docta_v> cvp: how do you know ht isn't working?
[11:31] <eigenlambda> how can i set the default movie player in gnome to something other than totem?
[11:31] <WINBALL> When ./configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $path
[11:31] <cvp> docta_v: Maybe my sources.list isn't updated...
[11:31] <danfg> glenn_steen, TMPhillips: ever tried one of the other two?
[11:32] <eigenlambda> i looked in the System menu, I looked in gconf-editor...
[11:32] <Samuli^> WINBALL, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:32] <eigenlambda> wheres the commands to do that?
[11:32] <WINBALL> Samuli^ Doesn't work
[11:32] <Samuli^> WINBALL, you need the compiler to compile.
[11:32] <TMPhillips> Yes, I'd rate Evo #2, Kmail #3
[11:32] <cvp> docta_v: Well, for one thing, when I don't have ht enabled, the processer usage doohickey always tells me I'm using 50% of my CPU constantly. I have also had absolutely no significant boosts in performance when trying to enable HT, so I know my attempts were futile.
[11:32] <czer323> Danfg> I come here and just sit sometimes watching people's issues.  I'm picking up a lot of info just by reading.  It's fantastic.
[11:32] <WINBALL> Couldn't find package build-essential
[11:33] <bullrage> Same applies for me czer323
[11:33] <Flannel> WINBALL: what repositories do you have?
[11:33] <nickrud> eigenlambda, right click a movie file, select properties at the bottom of the menu, then in the dialog click open with to change filetypes permanently
[11:33] <danfg> czer323: cool :)
[11:34] <glenn_steen> danfg: Yes, vey many times.... Thunderbird comes of lean (compared to evolution) and featurecomplete (and functional, compared to kmail:-). I had a spat of loving Sylpheed-claws, but that passed:-)
[11:34] <cvp> docta_v: I started off with kernel 383, and upon upgrading to 686 I have noticed zero performance boosts. That and I'm unable to get any kind of -smp kernel, so I know I don't even have the OPTION yet to enable ht.
[11:34] <StAnLeY^> so, does anyone know of a good way to sync iPAQ with ubuntu ?
[11:34] <``666> docta_v: unfortunately, the reconfig did not take success
[11:34] <cvp> docta_v: I strongly suspect that my sources.list is outdated or something, but a sudo apt-get update doesn't help things.
[11:34] <eigenlambda> nickrud: thanks...
[11:34] <_bgh_> hi all
[11:35] <jan__> Hello, i've got a big problem with my dapper dake... there is always an error:automatix-de hngt ab von python-wxgtk2.6; aber:
[11:35] <jan__>   Paket python-wxgtk2.6 bereitstellt, ist nicht installiert.
[11:35] <jan__>  can anyone help me?
[11:35] <nickrud> eigenlambda, changing file associations is not my favorite part of gnome :)
[11:35] <SurfnKid> well finally I can get online
[11:35] <Flannel> cvp: are you on dapper?
[11:35] <cvp> jan__: This is an english channel.
[11:35] <czer323> !de
[11:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[11:35] <cvp> Flannel: Yes.
[11:35] <SAM_theman> My GAme Sound FInally WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[11:35] <bootlick> Hi all, How does one run dual monitors, simple as plugging in another video card?
[11:35] <dxdemetriou> Can I make recheck for the mouse without reboot? I have kvm, and some times the mouse doesn't works ok
[11:35] <SAM_theman> THATS ubutnu 6.06
[11:35] <IGD_> Hey there, anyone know what the best language to code in lunux is for GUI. kind of offtopic i know but this is the only linux community im familiar with
[11:35] <Flannel> cvp: then all the kernels are SMP
[11:35] <SAM_theman> All my Sounds Works
[11:35] <_bgh_> small problem with my clean 6.06 install... I get a "Cannot Display This Video Mode" message right before the login screen
[11:35] <Flannel> IGD_: so, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[11:36] <cvp> Flannel: Oh, wow. Really?
[11:36] <mathieu_> IGD_: there's no such thing as 'best'
[11:36] <IGD_> flannel: thanks flannel
[11:36] <zukalk> do i really have to use totem-xine if i want to watch dvds?
[11:36] <Flannel> cvp: yeah, as of dapper all kernels are SMP, because there's no performance hit on non SMP procs
[11:36] <TMPhillips> Am having trouble with crosscompiler i386 on AMD64 platform.
[11:36] <cvp> Flannel: Cuz I know I didn't have any hyperthreading junk back in Warty, and I have absolutely no boost in performance now that I'm in dapper and using kernel 686.
[11:37] <cvp> Flannel: So I think I'm going about enabling hyperthreading incorrectly... :/
[11:37] <danfg> glenn_steen, TMPhillips: thanks for the input :)
[11:37] <guest42> Hey folks. I know this problem has come up quite a bit, but I'm having trouble with watching MPEGS, despite following various sets of instructions I've found/
[11:37] <glenn_steen> _bgh_: probably your monitor rejecting a mode. Just ignore it;-)
[11:37] <cvp> Flannel: A security update for Ubuntu said that they were disabling ht by default, and that I have to run some sort of parameter to enable ht again, and I'm pretty n00bish still...
[11:38] <`Boo`> hello, for wine, if i have an XP partition mounted at /mnt/ntfs1, can i set that as the "drive_c" for wine?
[11:38] <_bgh_> glenn: I was afraid someone would say that =(
[11:38] <czer323> !ubotu
[11:38] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[11:38] <Flannel> cvp: oh, where'd you read that?
[11:38] <paradizelos1> hey all
[11:38] <mitrovarr> Hi!  I'm trying to get Lirc working, and I have it compiled and my modules in and everything... I'm just having one little tiny problem with the init.d file.  It won't start lircd on boot!
[11:38] <vbn> #join /ubuntu-fr
[11:38] <xpc> hi
[11:38] <xpc> !hu
[11:38] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[11:38] <NoUse> `Boo` I don't think so
[11:38] <`Boo`> Why not?
[11:38] <paradizelos1> my logs are getting flooded with VFS:busy inodes changed on media
[11:39] <`Boo`> does wine require write access?
[11:39] <NoUse> `Boo` yes
[11:39] <cvp> Flannel: Er... lemme find a URL for you.
[11:39] <mitrovarr> Since I had to make my own init file (which I have absolutely no idea how to do) I'm wondering if I have to do something in the init file to launch 'lircd' as root, beyond simply putting the command at the end of the file.
[11:39] <`Boo`> if i used the ntfs write capability, would it work?
[11:39] <reydeluniverso> hola
[11:39] <cvp> Flannel: I mean, there's the news story: http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/05/13/HNintelexpose_1.html?source=rss&url=http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/05/13/HNintelexpose_1.html
[11:39] <_bgh_> glenn: The wierd part is that I'm using the exact same hardware configuration as my 5.10 install and I didn't get that message before
[11:40] <AJ004> does ubuntu come with a screensaver with a picture of satellite imagery with clouds?
[11:40] <soundray> mitrovarr: is there a /etc/default/lirc perhaps that prevents it?
[11:40] <paradizelos1> soundray: yes
[11:40] <AlienX> AJ004, probably not
[11:40] <paradizelos1> soundray: that was for AJ004
[11:40] <NoUse> `Boo` if you have a backup of all the stuff on your NTFS drive, you can try, but I don't know, probably more of a question for the wine people
[11:40] <mitrovarr> no... and I can do 'sudo lircd' on boot and it works fine.
[11:40] <AlienX> paradizelos1, it does? where?
[11:40] <paradizelos1> AJ004: yes it does
[11:40] <mitrovarr> it just won't do it automatically on boot
[11:40] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  It does?  what is the name of it?
[11:40] <Flannel> cvp: right, but where did you read about them disabling by default?
[11:40] <paradizelos1> AlienX: it showed up on a default install
[11:40] <mitrovarr> has to be launched by root so I can't just put it in my x startup file
[11:40] <paradizelos1> as default screensaver
[11:41] <NoUse> `Boo` ntfs write support isn't safe yet
[11:41] <soundray> mitrovarr: how about 'sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start' after booting -- does that bring it up?
[11:41] <`Boo`> k
[11:41] <AlienX> paradizelos1, hmm interesting. I've never seen a linux screensaver that showed satellite imagery. I'll have to check it out :)
[11:41] <cvp> Flannel: Lemme do the digging through Google that I did last night...
[11:41] <`Boo`> is cedega free?
[11:41] <NoUse> `Boo` no
[11:41] <cvp> `Boo`: No.
[11:41] <TMPhillips> I am compiling WINE on an AMD64, have followed many web guides, and am still unable to get past unicode trying to use the 64bit libraries. Have setup /use/lib32, and specified as prefix to configure, ... No luck. Anyone have guidance for actually forcing the 32bit libs to be used for unicode as I get nearly to the end of compile. I can't use .deb. TIA
[11:41] <paradizelos1> AlienX: well, it shows a sattelite agains the earth
[11:41] <`Boo`> dern :(
[11:41] <profoXP> not 'really'
[11:41] <jelkner> Heya, I just was apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, and now I get, when first booting the kernel, "Kernel Exception in Interrupt"....
[11:41] <mitrovarr> I doubt that'll work at all since I made the init file and it's just a list of commands
[11:41] <reid> when I ./configure CEGUI i get this error: checking for freetype2... configure: error: Package requirements (freetype2 >= 0.15.0) were not met.
[11:41] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  Its not in the screensaver preferences
[11:41] <mitrovarr> it doesn't have start/stop/reload sections like a real one since I don't know how to make anything that complicated
[11:42] <pianoboy3333> What file references /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[11:42] <mitrovarr> that I got lirc working (considering the less than useless nature of the packages in synaptic) is a miracle.
[11:42] <nickrud> mitrovarr, you might consider adding those lines to the end of /etc/rc.local
[11:42] <paradizelos1> cosmos
[11:42] <profoXP> `Boo`, you can download it *illegally* // but you can also just download cvscedega, the CVS version, it has a few features missing due to restrictions, like copy protection decrypter and stuff like that, and you have to build it from source, but it's legally free this way
[11:42] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  thanks
[11:42] <davers> hello?
[11:42] <paradizelos1> i think
[11:42] <profoXP> `Boo`, Wine is also worth a try
[11:42] <andrejkw> Hey guys
[11:42] <soundray> mitrovarr: in that case, I suggest you run those commands from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[11:42] <davers> is it possible to set the main toolbar back to default?
[11:42] <feg> hello, it seems that gnomebaker depends on gstreamer0.8, but dapper comes with gstreamer0.10 . apt-get install gnomebajer tells me that it want to install 0.8. is it safe? is it a problem to have both 0.8 and 0.10 installed?
[11:42] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  No it wasnt the cosmos
[11:42] <cvp> Flannel: Ohhhh, haha, I happened to not notice the "this vulnerability affects Warty and Hoary."
[11:42] <`Boo`> wine doesnt like steam :(
[11:42] <nickrud> soundray, there's actually an rc.local to recommend now :)
[11:42] <reid> anyone know what that error means??
[11:42] <cvp> Flannel: Alright, fine. Well poo.
[11:42] <crimsun> soundray: (or in Dapper, /etc/rc.local)
[11:42] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  It was a PICTURE of a satellite and a cloud formation
[11:42] <andrejkw> I get an error about missing libgdk-1.2.so.0, in which package can I find this file?
[11:43] <paradizelos1> AJ004: yes
[11:43] <soundray> nickrud: oh, thanks...
[11:43] <paradizelos1> it's in there
[11:43] <crimsun> andrejkw: install libgtk1.2
[11:43] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  Cosmos only shows space
[11:43] <Flannel> cvp: right, SMP is already enabled in the kernel, so if your proc supports it, it's working.
[11:43] <TMPhillips> Anybody actually compile WINE on AMD64 here?
[11:43] <soundray> mitrovarr: I take it back and concur with nickrud and crimsun
[11:43] <paradizelos1> AJ004: there are earth pictures in there
[11:43] <cvp> Flannel: It was late and I didn't have my coffee. But anyway, I still suspect that I for some reason don't have hyperthreading, because my CPU monitor is telling me that it's constantly being used at 50%.
[11:43] <``666> how to restart X11 without restarting the pc ?
[11:43] <nickrud> soundray, I thought that was a nice adaptation on ubuntu's part. I hated giving that bootmisc.sh advice
[11:43] <AJ004> paradize it wasnt the same
[11:43] <avis> how do i get ubuntu to manually modprobe my monitor for its correct refresh rates i seemed to have lost that in my notes.
[11:44] <cvp> Flannel: That and everything in Ubuntu is far slower for me than in WinXP.
[11:44] <soundray> nickrud: is it the same otherwise?
[11:44] <AJ004> it was an image moving on the screen and an ACTUAL PICTURE OF AN ORBITING SATELLITE
[11:44] <WINBALL> ok wtf I need to eat too
[11:44] <mitrovarr> just append those commands to the end of 'bootmisc.sh'?  (before the exit 0 I mean)
[11:44] <nickrud> soundray, for all practical purposes, yes
[11:44] <soundray> mitrovarr: no, /etc/rc.local (sorry)
[11:44] <cvp> Flannel: Is there at least any way I can check to see if I have hyperthreading enabled? That would pretty much solve it for me...
[11:44] <Flannel> cvp: well, there is a method to figure out how many procs you 'have
[11:44] <pianoboy3333> What file references /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[11:44] <Flannel> cvp: 'have' but, I don't recall the command
[11:44] <soundray> Thanks nickrud
[11:44] <mitrovarr> ok, I'll try that, thanks!
[11:44] <glenn_steen> _bgh_: Hmmm, details.... Do you specify any modes in xorg.conf?
[11:45] <soundray> pianoboy3333: the grub bootloader (the part that goes in the mbr)
[11:45] <mitrovarr> I really wish they'd fix the module-using packages in synaptic... things like lirc, truecrypt don't work at all that way.
[11:45] <czer323> is there a particular protocol for linux that allows for multiple audio streams that I should be chosing from now on?
[11:45] <danfg> `Boo`: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam
[11:45] <pianoboy3333> soundray: hmmm, is there a way to edit that file?
[11:45] <mitrovarr> especially if you don't use the default kernel
[11:45] <pianoboy3333> soundray: is it a file?
[11:45] <paradizelos1> pianoboy3333: yes, you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:45] <_bgh_> glenn: my xorg.conf -> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=132
[11:45] <cvp> Flannel: ...is there any chance you could remember it easily, or should I go hunting for it online?
[11:45] <javiolo> hi
[11:45] <davers> is it possible to set the main toolbar back to default?
[11:45] <AJ004> paradizelol:  the image doesnt appear to be part of that screensaver
[11:45] <andrejkw> Is there any way to hide the vmware-toolbox window?
[11:45] <reid> can anyone please help me with a compile error when I try to install CEGUI????
[11:45] <paradizelos1> pianoboy3333: no, it's the first 512 bytes of the hard drive IIRC
[11:45] <Flannel> cvp: Me? no.  someone here might though.
[11:45] <paradizelos1> AJ004: k. it's in there somewhere
[11:46] <soundray> pianoboy3333: it isn't a file, but you can always go back to the source and change it if you're courageous.
[11:46] <cvp> Flannel: Thanks for all your help, by the way. :)
[11:46] <soundray> pianoboy3333: what are you trying to do?
[11:46] <paradizelos1> AJ004: i know which one you are talking about, and my SS was set to random
[11:46] <AJ004> paradizelosl: is there any screenshots in the screensavers of the OUTSIDE of a satellite with cloud formations?
[11:46] <paradizelos1> AJ004: yes
[11:46] <czer323> is there a particular protocol for linux that allows for multiple audio streams that I should be chosing from now on?  Audio stream as in, on the same computer from different aps.
[11:46] <javiolo> is there any app in linux like the mac os x SAY ? to read text and output
[11:46] <cvp> Does anyone here know of a quick way I can test to see if I have hyperthreading enabled in Dapper?
[11:46] <paradizelos1> AJ004: i don't know where they are, but i've seen the one's you are thinking of
[11:46] <pianoboy3333> soundray: paradizelos1: that's it? I installed fedora to an external drive, something is still unconfigured... it won't boot right, but I think I need to fill in that it has to boot /dev/sdb1 somewhere else
[11:46] <AJ004> paradizelosl:  It was a silver colored satellite
[11:46] <lunahood> is there anyone, using ubuntu with krusader and working access to smb-shares ?
[11:47] <und3rtug4> Hi there!
[11:47] <AJ004> you know, what the weather satellites look like in reality
[11:47] <paradizelos1> !usb
[11:47] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paradizelos1
[11:47] <AJ004> that silvery material
[11:47] <davers> is it possible to set the main toolbar back to default?
[11:47] <Flannel> davers: what do you mean?
[11:47] <paradizelos1> pianoboy3333: there are special things you have to do to get the system to boot to an external usb drive
[11:47] <javiolo> is there any app in linux like the mac os x SAY ? to read text and output
[11:47] <_bgh_> glenn: oops.. url is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1103824#post1103824
[11:47] <AJ004> paradizelosl its showing images but not that one
[11:47] <pianoboy3333> paradizelos1: such as?
[11:47] <mitrovarr> still doesn't work... it doesn't start automatically but works if manually launched
[11:47] <guest42> I really need help gettin' XMMS to play MPEGS. I've tried several things, and it just doesn't seem to play
[11:47] <paradizelos1> google it
[11:47] <bullrage> WOW, Listen Media Player rules
[11:47] <paradizelos1> i don't know off hand
[11:47] <AJ004> the only one even remotely close was of clouds but it wasnt related
[11:47] <andrejkw> Is there any way to hide a window of an application by passing on some kind of a parameter
[11:47] <andrejkw> ?
[11:47] <pianoboy3333> paradizelos1: thanks...
[11:47] <avis> pianoboy3333, its as simple as modifing your bios boot order
[11:48] <blather> hi.
[11:48] <cvp> Does anyone here know of a quick way I can test to see if I have hyperthreading enabled in Dapper?
[11:48] <paradizelos1> avis no it isn't
[11:48] <davers> Hey does anybody know if it is possible to set the main ubuntu toolbar back to default? I accidentally removed te "System", "Applications", taskbar.. etc and now i can't get them back
[11:48] <cvp> bullrage: Is it open source?
[11:48] <paradizelos1> in uubntu you have to re-do your initrd image
[11:48] <soundray> javiolo: text2wave in the festival package
[11:48] <pianoboy3333> avis: I'm not trying to boot off of it, I'm trying to get it to load, the former I can do
[11:48] <blather> in ubuntu dapper, evolution comes with microsoft exchange as a selectable account type.  when i install evolution in kubuntu, the option is missing.  anyone know how i would go about enabling that?
[11:48] <czer323> javiolo> I've heard of something called festival, but... I'm sketchy on any details.
[11:48] <avis> sorry
[11:48] <kbrooks_> how do i clear the MBR?
[11:49] <cvp> kbrooks_: Are you sure that's a good idea?
[11:49] <javiolo> thanks ppl!
[11:49] <czer323> festival is a multi-lingual speech synthesis system with various APIs, as well as an environment for development and research of speech synthesis techniques, or free software as of version 1.4.0, or http://cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/
[11:49] <guest42> Do I need gstreamer0.8-plugins to play MPEGS? 'Cause I tried getting it, and I got a Broken file error...
[11:49] <reid> anyone help me with a freetype2 error????
[11:49] <gnomefreak> kbrooks_: does fixmbr work in ubuntu?
[11:49] <kbrooks_> cvp: MBR...not hard drive
[11:49] <soundray> kbrooks_: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 (your hd won't boot after that)
[11:49] <``666> docta_v: can i query u ?
[11:49] <kbrooks_> gnomefreak: I don't use Windows
[11:49] <javiolo> czer323 thanks
[11:49] <cvp> kbrooks_: I know. Are you SURE you want to clear that thing?
[11:49] <DaveyJ> that didnt work.. but i got it myself ;)
[11:49] <kbrooks_> gnomefreak: and havent needed to
[11:49] <soundray> kbrooks_: (and no guarantees about your partition table and data ;) )
[11:49] <gnomefreak> kbrooks_: thats why i asked if it worked in ubuntu
[11:49] <DaveyJ> the auto-check refreshrate was checked off
[11:50] <DaveyJ> so everytime i changed it, it went back
[11:50] <DaveyJ> durr
[11:50] <bullrage> cvp, I meant Listen Music Player. I presume so, it runs on ubuntu.
[11:50] <avis> i have a question.  i just installed the latest 686 kernel and headers.  it instalelled from the dapper cd.  i'm not getting a prompt to reboot.  how do i make the kernel default ?
[11:50] <reid> anyone please??
[11:50] <cvp> bullrage: Is it better than xmms and gxine?
[11:50] <cvp> Does anyone here know of a quick way I can test to see if I have hyperthreading enabled in Dapper?
[11:50] <kbrooks_> gnomefreak: i assume it's Windows only. and anyway, the idea of a fixmbr would be hmmm a bit flawed
[11:51] <nickrud> davers, you can add the app-places-system thingo back to the top menu bar by right clicking the menu bar, select Add to Panel, and click Main Menu
[11:51] <soundray> avis: it should set /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot the new kernel automatically. You can run 'sudo update-grub' to be sure.
[11:51] <davers> Hey does anybody know if it is possible to set the main ubuntu toolbar back to default? I accidentally removed te "System", "Applications", taskbar.. etc and now i can't get them back
[11:51] <kbrooks_> gnomefreak: the concept only works with one bootlader
[11:51] <avis> thank you
[11:51] <andi5> hi... is nautilus crashing for anyone else when rightclicking the computer icon on the desktop and choosing properties?
[11:51] <AJ004> hello
[11:51] <kbrooks_> andi5: dapper?
[11:51] <andi5> kbrooks_: yep
[11:51] <czer323> anid5> out of curiousity, how did you get teh computer on the deskop?  I've been trying for awhile now.... :-x
[11:52] <reid> anyone help with a compile error???
[11:52] <andi5> czer323: i do not know... it is there ;-) will try to find out how :)
[11:52] <davers> Hey does anybody know if it is possible to set the main ubuntu toolbar back to default? I accidentally removed te "System", "Applications", taskbar.. etc and now i can't get them back
[11:52] <sn00p> Why isn't there xchat in the apt-get database all there is is xchat-gnome frontend I dont want that crap
[11:52] <davers> sn00p use BitchX
[11:52] <bullrage> cvp, The interface is a bit like Amarok. I've taken a screenshot for you, http://www.bullrage.com/listen.png
[11:52] <kbrooks_> sn00p: its in universe
[11:53] <nickrud> czer323, andi5 in gconf-editor, apps/nautilus/desktop/computer_icon_visible
[11:53] <sn00p> How do I p ut universe in my sources.list?
[11:53] <kbrooks_> sn00p: enable the Universe repository, and install the "xchat" package
[11:53] <cvp> bullrage: Oh wow. Thank you. It looks pretty cool.
[11:53] <Selaiah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15211 Someone care for a look at my network settings? My Wlan isnt connecting.
[11:53] <nickrud> davers, didn't adding it with the right click work?
[11:53] <davers> Hey does anybody know if it is possible to set the main ubuntu toolbar back to default? I accidentally removed te "System", "Applications", taskbar.. etc and now i can't get them back
[11:53] <soundray> davers: right click the panel, select Add to Panel, then it's Utilities - Menu Bar
[11:53] <kbrooks_> sn00p: you don't. it's already there.
[11:53] <andi5> nickrud: right, i will have activated in one of my gconf travels :)
[11:53] <kbrooks_> !universe
[11:53] <sn00p> I cant f ind regular xchat then
[11:53] <davers> hrmm..
[11:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:53] <davers> i'll try that
[11:53] <kbrooks_> sn00p: read that
[11:54] <soundray> davers: you're welcome ;)
[11:54] <Maynoth> what is the next version of ubuntu going to be called
[11:54] <soundray> !edgy
[11:54] <nickrud> edgy eft
[11:54] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html.  initial release timeline - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000144.html
[11:54] <davers> hey that worked
[11:54] <kbrooks_> sn00p: by "already there", i mean: it's in, but not enabled
[11:54] <SurfnKid> edgy wedgy
[11:54] <czer323> nickrud> super sweet, thanks.
[11:54] <SurfnKid> :P
[11:54] <davers> but how come i still don't have a taskbar?
[11:54] <andi5> czer323: can you test that for me then?
[11:54] <nickrud> davers, add it back, same routine
[11:54] <soundray> davers: you
[11:54] <kbrooks_> !universe
[11:54] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:54] <glenn_steen> _bgh_: Sorry, that didn't seem to work... And the wife starts mumbling about the dishes, so ... another time:-). Check if you have any "extreme" modes and simply remove them... You do see the bootup sequence? Oh well, gotta run...
[11:54] <soundray> ...too slow...
[11:55] <Flannel> davers: add it, with "add to panel"
[11:55] <netdur> sometimes scrolling on firefox act like pressing "back"
[11:55] <_bgh_> glenn: thanks anyways.. have fun =p
[11:55] <cvp> Does anyone here know of a quick way I can test to see if I have hyperthreading enabled in Dapper?
[11:55] <netdur> how to fix it?
[11:55] <skippy81> does anyone know how i can get a framebuffer graphic running accross my console when im not in xwindows please? Gentoo style :)
[11:55] <soundray> netdur: I've got that problem, it drives me nuts. No solution so far :(
[11:55] <assasukasse> hi all when will edgy eft be released?
[11:55] <soundray> !edgy
[11:55] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html.  initial release timeline - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000144.html
[11:56] <czer323> andi5> just did. it works for me just fine when right clicking "computer' and then properties.
[11:56] <KevLee> hello - can anyone help a newbie
[11:56] <KevLee> I'm trying to install no-ip but can't find 'make' : make not found ???
[11:56] <nickrud> already it's edgy, edgy, edgy. Dapper isn't even cold yet
[11:56] <mitrovarr> I wish they'd pick better names
[11:56] <andi5> czer323: is see....
[11:56] <andi5> czer323: thanks though :)
[11:56] <AJ004> is there a screensaver in ubuntu which shows a picture of an actual satellite and cloud formations?
[11:56] <AJ004> i looked at the cosmos dataset but it didnt have one with a picture of an actual satellite
[11:56] <mitrovarr> the solution to the lirc thing was so stupid... I just had to specify path
[11:56] <soundray> mitrovarr: you mean you could come up with something even edgier than Edgy Eft?
[11:57] <netdur> soundray, google found something https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/31827
[11:57] <nickrud> AJ004, there's a screensaver in there that you can tell to show your own choice of picture, I've forggent exactly which one it is though
[11:57] <davers> ok maybe it is an azureus bug then because azureus won't show in my taskbar
[11:57] <mitrovarr> Ubuntu 7.0 is much less stupid
[11:57] <mitrovarr> and that's just the obvious name!
[11:57] <chrisn> So, sound in Dapper - anyone have any clues why it might be broken? I get messages saying the default ALSA device is busy, or access denied.
[11:57] <nickrud> davers, try adding the notification area
[11:57] <Flannel> mitrovarr: edgy will be 6.10, not 7.
[11:57] <soundray> mitrovarr: you *clearly* haven'
[11:57] <chrisn> Suffice it so say, I also have no sound functionality
[11:57] <mitrovarr> I'm sure something better than edgy eft (whatever the hell an eft is) could be thought of
[11:57] <soundray> t caught up with the Ubuntu spirit ;)
[11:57] <davers> nickrud: i did but it still doesn't show
[11:57] <mitrovarr> the names for the last versions all sucked too.  Who the hell still says dapper?
[11:57] <sn00p> uhh, I added universe to the repository but it still s ays xchat-gnome
[11:58] <soundray> mitrovarr: answers.com too far away for you?
[11:58] <stefano> hello everybody, a question: on ubuntu dapper for amd64 is openoffice present?
[11:58] <AJ004> nickrud i was wondering if someone put a screenshot there
[11:58] <nickrud> davers, I don't use azureas so that's about all I can say then, sorry
[11:58] <andi5> mitrovarr: why not 6.12?
[11:58] <soundray> stefano: yes
[11:58] <czer323> AJ004> Flipscreen3d has a pic of a satellite, but I don't know if it's live.
[11:58] <AJ004> or if it was an actual screensaver in ubuntu
[11:58] <davers> nickrud, thanks for all of your help
[11:58] <cory> is it possible to have an nvidia an an ati card installed and working at the same time? I have a 3-monitor setup and i need to add another video card. the only one i have laying around right now is an ati.
[11:58] <AJ004> ill check out flipscreen3d
[11:58] <mitrovarr> whatever I'm just saying that a number is better than the wierd name they're using now, and I'm sure a good name could be thought of
[11:58] <jikbag> anyone know of a way to auto logout users after a period of inactivity?
[11:58] <stefano> soundray: great. how is it possible (I knew there were some bad bugs)
[11:58] <DaveyJ> is it possible to use multiple monitors with xgl?
[11:58] <Selaiah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15211 Someone care for a look at my network settings? My Wlan isnt connecting.
[11:58] <mitrovarr> it's not the worst name used in open source (a title proudly held by the GIMP) but it could be improved on
[11:58] <AJ004> yeah it was flipscreen3d
[11:58] <AJ004> thanks :)
[11:58] <nickrud> mitrovarr, the names are fun and meant for developers. The releases have numbers
[11:59] <AJ004> you helped me figure it out
[11:59] <czer323> Selaiah> Just curious... It authentictes, but doesn't get an IP?  Have you tried to configure using a static IP?
[11:59] <andi5> czer323: there is gtweakui too
[11:59] <soundray> stefano: it's using 32bit libraries afaik
[11:59] <Subhuman> DaveyJ, not with the current API. but all xgl should be in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:59] <Selaiah> czer323, I'm using a static IP.
[11:59] <jjazz> KevLee: You need to install the make package
[11:59] <Subhuman> DaveyJ, it will in time.
[11:59] <AJ004> in flipscreen3d its showing a brown ubuntu screen
[11:59] <stefano> soundray: it sound good. is wine present (using the same manner) or do you need (as debian) a separate chrooted env?
[12:00] <mitrovarr> I suppose that's true they released drake as 6.06 LTS... which is boring but not terrible.
[12:00] <jikbag> anyone know of a way to auto logout users after a period of inactivity?
[12:00] <soundray> netdur: with workarounds! Thank you for that.
[12:00] <AJ004> theres a satellite image in there too?