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Japsuhow come it's this difficult to get all the packages needed to do C/C++ development12:03
defryskits sudo make install actually12:03
defrysksudo make install12:04
reidthankyou so much defrysk!!!!!!12:04
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DeshOpen source is two faces, it can be a cure all to your problems or a nightmare.12:04
reid:D :D12:04
JapsuI'll rephrase: why doesn't build-essential pull all the packages that are essential for building software?12:04
defryskI'll send you the bill later ok ?12:04
Japsu:E12:04
defryskJapsu, hence essential12:04
RidiusCan someone help me with a usb-network configuration12:05
defryskminimum requrements12:05
BlissexJapsu: all that crep (automake, libtool, ...) is not essential it is essentially evil :-)12:05
defryskis means12:05
HobbseeJapsu: try installing kde-deve12:05
JapsuBlissex: I agree that auto* is inherently evil12:05
HobbseeJapsu: try installing kde-devel12:05
RidiusNo matter what I put in /etc/networking/interfaces my usb0 device always comes out IPv612:05
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Japsuaigh12:05
JapsuI thought I had kde-devel12:05
DeshRidius, what are you using to connect to the network? A router?12:06
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Japsuthough kde-devel contains lots of fancy k* stuff12:06
RidiusDesh, it's a USB networking cable12:06
RidiusUSB on both ends to create a peer-to-peer network12:06
DeshAh, hmm, no clue.12:06
DeshSorry.12:06
Japsueither it doesn't contain the auto* stuff or I already have all of it installed12:06
RidiusI basically just need to set it to a static IP address but it keeps coming out IPv612:06
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defryskRiddell, want to disable ipv6 ?12:07
DeshSet the IP address in the interfaces file.12:07
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defryskRidius, i mean12:07
coryis it possible to have an nvidia an an ati card installed and working at the same time? I have a 3-monitor setup and i need to add another video card. the only one i have laying around right now is an ati.12:07
RidiusI don't need it12:07
raudwhere does i find xorg.conf i dapper?12:07
RidiusI could disable IPv612:07
Deshetc/X1112:07
Japsulast time I tried kubuntu on my laptop I reverted back to gentoo because building stuff was a PITA in kubuntu12:07
coryraud: /etc/X1112:07
DeshI think.12:07
raudthx12:07
defryskRidius, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798&page=5&highlight=disabling+ipv6 read the last post12:07
pekujaJapsu, evo12:08
defryskeasy way to get rid of ipv6 activities12:08
Japsuevery time I wanted to build some software I had to hunt down dozens of -dev packages I were missing12:08
Japsupekuja: gentoo rots the brain12:08
Japsupekuja: it makes everything too easy12:08
DeshReally, I thought Gentoo was a ho to use?12:08
defryskJapsu, apt-get build dep <package>12:08
chavoJapsu, apt-get build-dep is your friend12:08
defryskand you have them all ;)12:08
Japsuhmm12:08
Deshwhat does build-dep do?12:09
RidiusThanks12:09
iNikudefrysk: of course that won't help if there is no pcakage for what you're trying to build...12:09
pekujaJapsu, yeah, well Gentoo does make development easy that way, but it really just is installing all the development stuff even if you don't need use it yourself12:09
defryskDesh, it sets up the deps to be able to compile the concerning package12:09
chavoit will install everything you need to build a certain package12:09
kronozDesh, apt-get build-dep amarok for example would install everything i needed to build amarok from source12:09
defrysk^ chakie12:09
Japsupekuja: well, I need that stuff ^^12:09
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defryskchavo, that is12:10
chavoJapsu, ubuntu isn't designed to be a development platform12:10
Desh:-O12:10
Japsu:O12:10
pekuja:-O12:10
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chavoif you'd like to use it as one, it's assumed that you're competent enough to set it up12:10
DeshOuch.12:10
DeshBurn?12:11
[BU] Brizzdoes anyone know why Azureus' toast messages won't hide and why Azureus won't show up in my system tray?12:11
defryskthat hurt12:11
chavonot trying to flame it's the facts12:11
defrysk[BU] Brizz, an AZUREUS bug12:11
defrysknothing to do with ubuntu12:11
Japsuchavo: I would be so much happier if I could just do "apt-get install everything_I_need_to_build_stuff"12:11
reidsorry for being a newb defrysk but when i use the scons command i now get this error: Checking for C header file GL/gl.h... no Did not find gl.h, exiting!12:11
[BU] Brizzokay but that is typical then?12:11
chavoubuntu is meant to be a simple desktop for the people12:11
defryskreid, sorry :(12:11
reidwhat dep. do I need now defrysk12:11
RidiusThanks for the help. I fixed it though12:12
RidiusI had some incorrect mapping12:12
RidiusMy bad12:12
RidiusThanks guys!12:12
defryskreid, dunno12:12
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chavoJapsu, like I said apt-get build-dep12:12
erovbut it's quiite flexible.. just do some reading.. and piddling12:12
defryskwhat are you compling reid ?12:12
KuLoverAnyone ever hear of this? I install Kubunu, it boots, goes through the kubuntu loading bar and finishes, then goes back to the kubuntu logo. If you've heard of this, please help ><12:12
Japsuchavo: yeah12:12
reidthats ok- defrysk- ya helped me with the main one :P12:12
chavofor e.g. if you apt-get build-dep amarok, it will pull in x includes, kde includes, etc. etc.12:12
defryskwhat are you compling reid ?12:12
reidI am compiling a arcade game defrysk12:12
iNikuwould be nice if there was a meta package for "all" -dev packages... the commonly needed ones, anyway12:12
defryskreid, the name ?12:13
DeshI wish I could compile..12:13
HobbseeiNiku: for kde, install kde-devel12:13
pekujaiNiku, yeah, well what's commonly needed varies a lot12:13
Hobbseethat gets a lot of them12:13
KuLoverTerminus: You awake?12:13
defryskreid, ?12:13
reidsecret maryo chronicles its multiplatform :( defrysk12:13
DeshI know how to compile DOS proggies in Win32.12:13
iNikupekuja: I know, that's the problem12:13
iNikuHobbsee: thanks12:13
pekujaI would agree build-dep is probably the best way12:13
DeshWell, compile the ones I program with my crappy C++.12:13
pekujaI usually just install them by hand though12:13
pekujabut yeah, it's a bit of a pain to do that12:14
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iNikubuild-dep doesn't help if there is no source .deb with build dependencies in the repos12:14
reiddefrysk I looked on the forum and installe all that it said it needed- I can give you the names of the dep. if you want the,12:14
reid*them12:14
iNikuit only helps if you want to recompile an already debianized/ubuntuized package12:14
sorush20are there any programs that allow me to playback cd's while I rip music from them and encode them to ogg?12:14
Desh>_<12:14
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defryskreid, no no i'm of to bed in a bit12:15
chavoiNiku, it does help though, you just have to think about it.12:15
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Japsuhmm12:15
reidok defrysk well I thankyou for your help and time anyway!! thank you so much!!! :D12:15
Japsuwhere's the d-bus session bus started from in kubuntu?12:15
chavoif it's a kde app, then most likely apt-get build-dep kdebase will cover it12:15
iNikuchavo: yeah, it does to an extent12:15
defrysksorush20, yes12:15
chavoanything else will come up when you run configure12:15
sorush20defrysk: could you also give me the name for it.. please.12:16
_Deviant_Hrm, Anyone up to helping me with a problem?12:16
defrysksorush20, sound juicer12:16
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DeshYay, elternate CD downloade.12:17
defrysksorush20, sudo apt-get install sound-juicer12:17
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_Deviant_Problem: Cd rom doesn't auto mount comes up as Unmounted CD in KDE Daemon12:18
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defryskoff to bed bye folks12:18
iNikuchavo: could hack up a script that figures out the build dependencies from a configure script and offers to automatically install the packages :)12:18
iNikuthe missing ones, that is12:18
DeshiNiku, you know how to hack?12:19
iNikuDesh: define "hack"12:19
Deshlike, m4d 1337 h4X0r12:19
Deshhahaha.12:19
jorikiNiku, roxor t3h boxor of course !!12:19
iNikuhehe12:19
Deshjorik, how unleet of you: r0x0r t3h b0x0r12:20
iNikuwell, I'll leave you guys to it :P12:20
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jorikim beyond leet ... im 133812:20
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FluxBox:( someone has this nick.12:21
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Deshjorik, all your base are belogn to me.12:21
DeshYou have no chance to spell check, ignore my typos.12:22
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DeshOk, pray that this, my 3rd dapper install CD, works. :)12:24
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joriksay, has anyone gotten Tremulous 1.1.0 (free fps/rts crossover based on Q3) to work ? i downloaded it but it doesnt extract ... just gives "extraction failed"12:24
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DeshI have no idea what it does.12:24
DeshSorry12:24
Steven_Mhi all, what's the url for the past bin site?12:25
h3sp4wn!pastebin12:25
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Deshhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com12:25
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jorikah well, back to ET then (than?) i gues12:26
Deshthen12:26
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jorik-fragggthx12:26
sorush20its not playing back for some reason..12:26
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Deshthan is used to compare something, such as I have more oranges than jorik-fraggg12:27
jorik-fragggah cool, i always mix them up ... thats what you get for learning english on IRC i guess12:27
sorush20sound juicer just keeps telling me that there are certain amounts of time left and the speed fluctuates up and down what can I do?12:27
DeshHahaha, true. What's yout first language?12:28
jorik-fragggdutch12:28
DeshCool.12:28
jorik-fragggyou're native english ?12:29
DeshYeah, well my parents speak spanish, but I am in the US, so yeah, english.12:29
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TombuntuI used the 'change your package repositories to dapper' method of upgrading as reccomended by the topic (although someone said update-manager would have been much better), and now wifi is broken12:30
TombuntuTHANKS LINUX12:31
jorik-fragggcool, im prolly gonna pick up spanish sometime soon ... thinking of moving to south america for a few years12:31
DeshTombuntu, welcome to my problem.12:31
TombuntuDesh: ah i am not alone12:31
Deshjorik-fraggg, yeah, spanish is pretty cool. I want to mvoe down there to make doccumnetaries. :)12:31
Tombuntui blame the ops of this channel for putting the WRONG advice in the topic :(12:31
StageZeroOkay...12:31
StageZeroI've done all work for now.12:32
HobbseeTombuntu: what's done now?12:32
DeshTombuntu: What I am doing is installing a fresh dapper, after I backed up all my stuff of course.12:32
StageZeroI'm going to smoke a cigarette and then go to bed.12:32
StageZeroI've written a document for work.12:32
StageZeroWe need it for replacement of our network.12:32
Tombuntuwhen i start wirelessmanager it just bounces, is that what yours did?12:32
DeshTombuntu: is your sound still working?12:32
Tombuntumy sound claims to be disabled12:32
DeshSame.12:32
DeshMy wlan0 was nowhere to eb found. ;/12:33
HobbseeTombuntu: try knetworkmanager12:33
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Tombuntuunder what menu is that12:33
DeshTombuntu: did you use ndiswrapper?12:33
Deshbefore12:33
jorik-fragggDesh, sweet ... ill prolly try n get a job teaching math or something, but ... im off now, i got n00bs to pwn12:33
Tombuntui dunno what i used, ubuntu asked for my wifi info during install including wep pass and i said ok12:33
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Tombuntuand it remembered that12:34
DeshHahaha, have fun pwning, jorik-fraggg12:34
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DeshTombuntu: ah well, I used ndiswrapper and Dapper completely messed it up.12:34
Tombuntui'm on my ibook next to the sony vaio vgn-t250p that's up12:34
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Tombuntui probably did too12:34
Tombuntusound never really worked properly for me12:34
Tombuntuonly with headphones and then very quiet12:34
DeshAh, it did for me but Dapper messed it up.12:34
Tombuntui heard of ways to fix it but never tried them12:34
sokubanWhat permissions do you need to download printer drivers? '12:35
DeshWell, can you backup everything?12:35
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sokubandeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse12:35
sokubandeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse12:35
Kadranwhat is the pkg of konference?12:35
sokubandeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse12:35
sokubandeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse12:35
Hobbsee!paste12:35
Kadran!konference12:35
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ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kadran12:35
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sokubandeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-proposed main restricted universe multiverse12:35
sokuban12:35
sokubandeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse12:35
sokubandeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse12:35
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imichelhi12:35
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TombuntuDesh: i suppose if i can get k3b working12:35
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sokubansorry, I pasted the wrong thing12:36
Hobbseesokuban: please dont paste in here12:36
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DeshTombuntu: Didn't for me, I used my sister's iPod.12:36
TombuntuI've got an iRiver but I have to use a usb hack to get it to use usb12:36
TombuntuLuckily it's not my main machine.12:36
DeshTOmbuntu: eyah I had something similar, but luckily it worked and the files were fine.12:37
imichelI have am following instructions about installing a program and it says to add some code to /etc/conf.d/local.start (in Gentoo). I am using Dapper Drake; would that place be the same as /etc/rc.local ?12:37
sokubanUnable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-LaserJet_4P,hpijs] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation. (That was what I really wanted to paste)12:37
sokubanwhat permissions do you need to download printer drivers?12:37
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Tombuntuapple released quicktime 7.1.112:37
Tombuntuif you purchased quicktime 5 or 6 "pro" this update removes the pro functionality that you had purchased12:37
Tombuntuand you must purchase 7 pro to fix it12:38
Tombuntulol12:38
DeshBRB.12:38
sokubanI got the above error when I tried to install printer drivers12:38
tyfon_sokuban: try one of the other drivers it suggests12:38
sokubanI tried12:38
sokubanbut I got the same error12:38
ubuntuhi12:39
KuLoverAnyone ever hear of this? I install Kubunu, it boots, goes through the kubuntu loading bar and finishes, then goes back to the kubuntu logo. If you've heard of this, please help ><12:39
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Kadranis there a konference for kde 35312:39
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sokubansorry, I have dinner, I'll ask again later12:40
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KuLoverHello capain12:40
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KuLovercaptain*12:40
Jack_SparrowHey12:41
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Jack_SparrowI have had a couple issues with video.  I am using Nvidia video card. 5500 or something close to that.  But occasionally I lose graphics one window at a time...12:43
Jack_SparrowANyone care to walk me through checking the settings12:43
TombuntuDesh: my sound works12:43
Tombuntuit's just incredibly quiet even tho everything is all the way up12:43
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kkathmanquestion:  Does Opera for Breezy work ok with Dapper? or do we have to wait to get that?12:44
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DeshTombuntu: well mine was completely gone. :-/12:45
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Tombuntuif i reinstall anything it will be by hitting f10 and letting the restore partition install windows12:46
DeshHahaha.12:46
KuLoverDesh, what sound card are you on?12:46
DeshUmm...I forgot...12:46
Jack_SparrowHow did you setup a partition restore option?12:46
DeshSome nVidia card12:46
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TombuntuJack_Sparrow: it's a sony it already had one12:46
Jack_Sparrowah.12:46
TheHighChildkcathman mine works12:47
Jack_SparrowAre you any good with dd?12:47
Jack_SparrowI think I have my command line right12:47
kkathmanTheHighChild:  did you just get the Opera from the Breezy download at Opera.com ?12:48
TheHighChildkkathman Actually I used Automatix12:48
robotgeekhowdy kkathman12:48
kkathmanoooo automatix !! :(12:48
Jack_Sparrowdd if=/dev/sda7 skip=1 of/dev/sdb7 bs=4k conv=notrunc, noerror12:48
kkathmanhey robotgeek :)12:48
TheHighChildkkathman I can give yo umy deb though if you want it, I think it may have changed though12:48
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kkathmanTheHighChild:  I wonder if the "static" deb from Opera.com will work under kubuntu ?12:49
DeshOk question12:49
DeshI am using a Broadcom 4306 Wifi card12:49
Jack_Sparrowbrb12:50
DeshDapper has drivers for it, it is set as eth1, how do I start it?12:50
kkathmanrobotgeek:  do you happen to know if Opera (breezy) from Opera.com would work also under Dapper?12:50
Tombuntuhow do you set a manually set interface back to dhcp12:50
robotgeekkkathman: not sure, the static deb should work though12:50
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: Try http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-300/intel-linux/opera-static_9.0-20060526.1-qt_en_dapper_i386.deb (until opera provides a version for dapper as standard)12:50
kkathmanrobotgeek:  okies12:50
kevinDesh: I would assume K menu - > Internet - > Wireless lan manager12:50
Tombuntukevin: that fails so hard12:51
Tombuntufor me it shows up bounces the icon for 15 seconds and disappears12:51
TheHighChildh3sp4wn thanks m8 but mine works ^_^, it's for kkathman12:51
DeshSame for me. :(12:51
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DeshOh, now it works.12:52
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kevinTombuntu: I don't even have a wifi card and it opens up just fine..then closes right away with an error somehting along the lines of "You don't have a wifi card dummy!"12:52
Tombuntuok i have somehow 900mb of stuff in my /home/ but the important folders i see are maybe 200mb12:52
Tombuntukevin: mine doesn't throw an error12:52
Tombuntuit fails to start12:52
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kevinTombuntu: There are hidden folders with a period in front of their names12:52
kevinTombuntu: Go to view - > Show hidden files12:52
Tombuntukevin: the thing si i know this12:52
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Tombuntuand i looked at various ones to see which one is huge or even moderately large (over 1mb)12:53
TheHighChildTombuntu you try sorting by filesize?12:53
Tombuntui can't figure it out :(12:53
Tombuntufolders always show up as 4kb if you do that12:53
kevinTombuntu: Highlight them all and rightclick one and go to propeties12:53
TheHighChildTombuntu one sec, I'll grab a command for you12:53
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charwoodThis has probably been asked like a million times.  I apologize in advance.  I have enabled multiverse in my sources.list (Dapper Drake 6.06) but libxine-extracodecs is nowhere to be found.12:54
charwoodWhat did I miss?12:54
charwood(Yes, I ran apt-get update)12:54
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kevinYou need at the top of the tutorial you're probably looking at to add the multiverse and universe repositories12:54
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robotgeekkevin: he did that :)12:54
kevinmeh for some reason my connection reset ><12:55
Tombuntuthunderbird only 22mb12:55
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charwoodkevin: No problem.  All repositories in the default sources.list are uncommented.12:55
h3sp4wncharwood: whats the output of grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list12:55
Tombuntukde 12mb12:55
TombuntuCANT FIGURE OUT WHERE THE HUGE COMES FROM :(12:55
kevinTombuntu: Highlight them all...right click one and go to properties12:55
Tombuntu908.0MB12:56
kevinthere ya go12:56
Tombuntu15151 files 1094 subfolders12:56
kevinsmall things can add up to big sizes12:56
Tombuntu12mb of files in the root, and if i select mozilla thunderbird in there as well it's about 15mb12:57
DeshOk my broadcom card is recognised by dapper as eth1, how do I set it to connect wirelessly.12:57
TombuntuTHANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW THAT I HAVE A LOT OF FILES12:57
TombuntuTHANKS FOR NOT LETTING ME KNOW HOW TO FIND OUT WHERE THE LARGE FOLDER IS12:57
Tombuntubecause i mean i already stated i had over 900mb12:57
kevinTombuntu: Watch your caps..12:57
Tombuntuand didn't know where it was12:57
Tombuntuand i know it's in /home/tom/ but what subfolder?  It is a mystery.12:57
kevinTombuntu: What would you be able to do with the large folder?12:57
TombuntuNot burn it.12:58
TombuntuI don't want to burn a DVD if it's most likely not supported whereas CD is.12:58
kkathman!xlib12:58
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kkathman12:58
kkathman!xlibs12:58
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kkathman12:58
Steven_Mhi all, at http://pastebin.com/763806 is a copy of my original sources.list following my installation of Dapper LTS. as you can see the only mention of the multiverse archive is under the backport section of the file. Since I want to install regular multiverse apps and not backport ones, what line should I add to my sourcs.list file?12:58
kevinls -S - use that command12:58
kkathmanI think ubotu needs to update himself..that link isnt active any more12:59
MasterEvilAceubotu isn't human12:59
ubotuMasterEvilAce: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:59
charwoodkevin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1522212:59
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kevinTombuntu: Never mind use ls -S -a01:00
Tombuntualso how do i clicked folder without actually going in folder (double click as opposed to the awful single click)01:00
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aseigoTombuntu: i'll tell you if you take back the 'awful' comment ;)01:01
Tombuntuaseigo: it is awful if you are trying to click and click delete instead of right clicking and scrolling and clicking delete01:01
Tombuntuclick delete/hit the delete button on the keyboard01:01
Steven_Msingle click is awful!01:02
charwoodWhich is a kubuntu repository that I can find libxine-extracodecs?01:02
kevinsingle click owns01:02
Tombuntukevin: the crazy thing is01:02
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Tombuntuif i select all the files, then right click one and hit properties01:02
Tombuntufolders that is*01:02
Tombuntuit says 109mb01:02
TheHighChilddouble-click for lief01:02
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Tombuntuand if i select all the files (not folders), it's 12mb01:02
skipster23how do i unmount my floppy in the terminal01:02
Tombuntuso that makes 120mb01:02
Tombuntuif i select them ALL and do right click -> properties01:03
Tombuntuit's 908mb01:03
Tombuntumath fails it01:03
Steven_Mcharwood: hehe :)01:03
aseigoTombuntu:  in any case, you can change it in the mouse control panel01:03
Tombuntuit was my desktop :O CONCENTRATED EVIL01:03
kevincharwood: change it to - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1522301:03
aseigoTombuntu: while i rather disagree with double cliking being good (and i have the guy who invented it on my side on this topic ;), i certainly agree you have the right to maim your kde in any way you see fit .. ah, configurability!01:04
Steven_Mdid anyone see my question?01:04
kevinsingle-click means we'll be faster and better able to get food when teh aliens come01:04
TheHighChildskipster23 not positive because I don't have a floppy but try 'sudo umount /media/floppy001:04
skipster23its unmount /media/fd0, i got it thanks01:05
Tombuntuaseigo: sometimes i just wanna select01:05
Tombuntuwindows got it right: in single click mode, hover = select01:05
Tombuntuin linux, hover does not = select, and all you can do is either single click or use click drag to drag a box around it and select just the one item01:06
Tombuntutherefore you are wrong sir01:06
kevinYou can change it in control panel Tombuntu...01:06
TheHighChildsingle-click means you open every single file before you can get them to the trashbin01:06
Tombuntukevin: i know, i'm just saying01:06
Tombuntuusability01:06
kevinclick and drag man click and drag01:06
kevinnot click let go click drag leg go drag click drop01:06
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kevinand yes i said leg go01:06
kevincharwood: You get it sorted?01:07
TheHighChildI use ctrl + click but tend to forget the ctrl01:07
aseigoTombuntu: you can turn on hover == select in kde..01:07
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Tombuntuaseigo: and i can install make, that doesn't mean that i should have to01:07
aseigoTombuntu: that said ... i wouldn't push the usability argument because the usability field would actually disagree with you ;001:07
Tombuntuoooh linux fight :)01:07
Tombuntuanyway thanks for the help01:08
TheHighChildhurry, get the Ben Gay01:08
aseigoTombuntu: double click is worse in almost every aspect possible .... there is one place where it is better and that is single file selection01:08
kkathmanargh01:08
aseigoTombuntu: fortunately i've got a 'fix' for that for kde4 ;)01:08
kevinkde 4 will have widgets o.O01:09
kkathmanDoes anyone know what I need to install to get xlib6g >3.3.6   ??  Is it the -dev ??01:09
skipster23i have friend who would like to edubuntu so i coppied it cd the only problem is that her bios won't run the cd on boot, what can i do01:09
kevinum...disconnect the hd so it'll have to run the cd...lol..01:09
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TheHighChildIs the BIOS set to boot from cd before hard disk?01:09
charwoodkevin: Yes.  That worked.  Thank you.01:09
kevinin the bios there IS a setting to do it01:10
kevincharwood: np01:10
skipster23yes, but it boots the hd first anyways01:10
TheHighChildYou need to make sure the BIOS tries to boot from CD before the hard disk. I suggest 1: Floppy, 2: CD 3: hard disk01:10
skipster23i did01:10
kevinskipster23: is the cd in?01:10
TheHighChildYou try the CD on anothe rmachine? Could be bad01:10
TheHighChildLOL01:10
TheHighChildkevin NICE01:11
skipster23the cd boots up fine on my coputer so i know its not the cd01:11
kevinTheHighChild: My lil bro's done it to me before..01:11
TheHighChildkevin I work Help Desk and I get that kind of shiat all the time, pretty much why I shiatted my pants01:11
DeshOk so i am booting dapper, and it's stuck on the Boot screen, it got stuck at "Mountintg root file system..."01:11
skipster23is there a floppy boot ican use to mount the cd drive01:11
kevinon mine you can press some F button and it'll take you to a menu just to specify the boot order..01:11
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kevinDesh: sometimes it says 'mouting 30th time must check for file consistancy' or something01:12
DeshNo no, but this is the first time.01:12
kevinskipster23: it's the settnigs in your bios you have to get right...01:12
DeshOh, it got past it this time, random computer lock up I guess.01:12
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TheHighChildDesh i had that issue and it would crash, turned out to be a bad stick of RAM. Never would have guessed01:12
skipster23they are ive check 30 times01:12
kevinDesh :-/ does an error come up? after awhile it should get out of th egraphical kubuntu startup and go into a text-based startup with an error message01:12
DeshNah it's good now. I turned the computer off and on again and it worked.01:13
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kevinskipster23: It's the only semi-logical explanation..try getting an update for the bios or something (if you know how to flash it)01:13
TheHighChildskiptser23 not sure if you answered this but have you verified the CD works on an alternate system?01:14
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kevinTheHighChild: Yah he says it works on his01:14
TheHighChildEither a bad CD drive (try another) or the settings in the BIOS are wrong. Perhaps there are multiple cd drives and the one select to boot is the wrong one?01:15
Kadranskipster23: some of the motherboards has a key to press then choose the booting device,01:15
KuLoverAnyone ever hear of this? I install Kubunu, it boots, goes through the kubuntu loading bar and finishes, then goes back to the kubuntu logo. Now about every ten minutes, it says restarting system log. If you've heard of this, please help ><01:15
KuLoverAlso.. im on a 64bit setup if that means anything.01:16
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kevinGoing to go read my new starwars book hehe c ya01:17
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TheHighChildI was hoping he was joking01:18
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dgazzGood evening everybody!01:23
dgazzIf I may ask for help here?01:23
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Kadranhi dgazz01:25
dgazzHi!01:25
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dgazzKadran: May I ask you a question about mounting?01:26
timmy_WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:26
timmy_sorry01:26
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Kadrandgazz: sure01:26
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dgazzI try to move my homedir to another partition and tried it this way01:27
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SewageAny Python programmers here?01:27
Sewagegood KDE Python app?01:27
Kadrandgazz: then you will have to change the mount point of the /home01:28
KuLoverAnyone ever hear of this? I install Kubunu, it boots, goes through the kubuntu loading bar and finishes, then goes back to the kubuntu logo. Now about every ten minutes, it says restarting system log. If you've heard of this, please help ><01:28
dgazzI made an ext3 filesystem on the desired partition, made it active via qparted and mounted it01:28
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dgazzinto my "old" /home01:29
Kadrandgazz: did you copied the contents of the /home to this new ext3 partition01:29
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dgazzthats the problem, I cant copy it, KDE says error01:30
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dgazzI can only change the content of this "mount"? via root01:32
dgazzMay my fstab entry help?01:32
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MasterEvilAceKuLover: yeah i've had that before01:33
MasterEvilAceKuLover: many times, really. What I do is go into recovery mode (hit ESC when grub stuff comes up.. choose the top most Recovery mode. if you make it to a command prompt, type "startx".. if it doesn't load, it'll give you an error. that'll help you (and if needed, help us help you)01:34
KuLoverWow! Thanks!01:35
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KuLoverHow long will you be here MasterEvilAce? Ill do that now and report the error?01:35
Kadranhi dgazz, sorry i have moved the power cable :(01:36
MasterEvilAcekulover: i'll be here for quite awhile (unless i forget what i'm doing and end up taking a shower :P)01:36
KuLoverlol01:36
dgazzKadran: huh01:36
dgazzKadran: May my fstab entry for that partition help?01:37
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Kadrandgazz: your problem apear in permissions, so i know a solution but it is pretty weared01:37
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TheHighChilddgazz i suggest mounting the partiton as a regular partition and copying the files over. Then changing the fstab to reflect it as the new /home01:37
RadiantFiredoes anyone know how I can get my laptop screen to turn off when I shut the lid?01:37
TheHighChilddgazz You won't be able to write to it until it's mounted.01:37
MasterEvilAceRadiantFire: what sorta laptop?01:37
RadiantFireinspiron01:38
dgazzI mounted it and can only write as root, but read via my user-account01:38
MasterEvilAceRadiantfire: I have an inspiron 8000.. with Dapper. I don't think I had to do anything to get it to shut off.01:38
Kadrandgazz: you can open konqueror as root and do the copying01:38
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billhhi01:39
RadiantFirethis is a newer model, the proper designation is e140501:39
TheHighChilddgazz kadran is right, you'll need to make your user account the owner of the partition in the fstab01:39
RadiantFirei think it is related to 900001:39
KuLoverMasterEvilAce, still here?01:39
MasterEvilAcekulover: yeah01:39
RadiantFireapparently, I wasn't closing it tight enough...01:39
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billhI wiped winblows off my laptop and installed kubuntu01:39
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KuLoverI got a whole screen of stuff after typing startx, should I just read under the "Fatal server error"?01:40
VoseHi anyone have a second01:40
dgazzKadran: TheHighChild: Is this the "user"-option?01:40
MasterEvilAcekulover: yeah i suppose. Whatever seems like it relates to a problem01:40
billhhmm, /etc/X11 folder should have some config files .1 .2 .3 if you had previous settings that worked in x01:40
TheHighChilddgazz are you trying to change the permissins through the GUI?01:40
VoseFirefox stoped working (it loads but does not connect) so I uninstalled all the extentions then I downloaded it agian and reinstalled01:41
Kadrandgazz: it is the Disks & Filesystems01:41
VoseIt simply times out when trying to go to e.g. www.google.com01:41
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VoseSo I run it in safe mode and then nomral and it gave me this line01:42
dgazzKadran: Yes, tried it with this option01:42
SewageVose, did you do the IPV6 thing01:42
KuLoverMatserEvilAce, "noscreens found XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset be peer) on X server after 0 requests. Then it gave me eth0: no IPv6 routers present.01:42
Vose*** nsInstallLogReader::_parseLine - failed to deregister chrome01:42
KuLover"01:42
Vose*** nsInstallLogReader::_parseLine - failed to deregister chrome01:42
billhKulover, did you change the video driver?01:42
VoseSewager no clue what IPV6 is01:42
KuLoverI havent even botted up yet. This is rite after installing.01:42
billhwhat video card do you have?01:43
Sewagewell, your errors dont seem to have anything to do wtih IPV601:43
TheHighChildkuLover fresh install or a dist-upgrade?01:43
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Kadrandgazz: then you will switch to administartive and open the partition you want and modify it01:43
KuLoverIm on ATI X850XT billh01:43
VoseSewager so do you know what deregister chrome is?01:43
SewageVose, but you might as well do this anyway.   go  to  about:config01:43
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Sewagefilter ipv601:44
KuLoverTheHighChild, This is a fresh install, second one actually, I havent even booted yet.01:44
billhKulover, you need the proper drivers for it, wierd, It should of detected it and used correct drivers01:44
SewageI dont have FF installed, so I forgot what you change01:44
Sewageyou set it to Enbaled or Disabled, I forgot01:44
KuLoverbillh, maybe this is a 64but problem?01:44
Sewage!ipv601:44
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv401:44
brandon_is there a way to use apt to go back to the previous version of a package?01:45
KuLoverbillh, 64bit*01:45
dgazzKadran: Did it, (Ill try to translate german-english now) mountpoint is /home/user/hdb1 device is /dev/hdb1 fs is ext3 mount access is: every user can de/activate it every time01:45
billhyeh, do you have the 64 bit distro?01:45
SewageVose,  Double-click the only listed item, network.dns.disableIPv6, and then close the browser.01:45
KuLoverbillh yes I do01:45
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billhonly thing I can think of is that they dont have the proper driver yet for your vid card01:45
dgazzallow executables, allow SUID and SGID and allow device points01:45
Voseabout:config is in firefox folder?01:46
KuLoverbillh, how can I choose the correct ones?01:46
billhor the auto config thing selected the wrong driver01:46
SewageVose, type it in  the address bar01:46
Kadrandgazz: remember to make it writable :) and try, gl01:46
billhgood question, I had this same problem today but I lucked out and used a different config that worked01:47
billhfrom a previous session01:47
billhI accidently selected wrong video driver01:47
MasterEvilAceKulover might be able to get it to work using that xorg reconfigure command01:47
billhim used to Redhat01:47
TheHighChildKuLover you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver in there (risky unless you're familiar) or you can do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' That will allow you to setupi your xorg.conf all over again. Kind of a pain though01:47
Kadrandoes dapper now support NTFS??01:47
Vosesewage when I type it in it automaticly goes to "about:konqueror"01:48
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billhah so thats how youi do it01:48
TheHighChildKuLover if you're running 64 bit, you might have some issues with an ATI driver though01:48
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SewageVose, in Firefox, in the address bar, you type about:config01:48
KuLoverTheHighChild Riteo, im on 64bit..01:48
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KuLoverTheHighChild Should I try the 32bit installation?01:48
dgazzKadran: I could read an NTFS partition but could not write on it. And I made set the writable-option01:48
MasterEvilAceNTFS has always been readable.. but writing is still experimental i believe01:49
TheHighChildKuLover That's a tough call. I run a 64 bit installation andhad issues with my ATI but I am using Nvidia right now. Should you switch? eh, depends on what you're trying to do. honestly, I don't feel I get the performance from the 64 bit install that I should01:49
Kadrani can write to NTFS using capitive but it is tooooooooooo slow01:49
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dgazzKadran: hm, I set the writeable flag on the ext3 formatted disk01:50
TheHighChilddgazz There isn't native write support for ntfs01:50
billhany of you guys using a USB wifi adapter that has native linux drivers?01:50
Vosesewage should I make it bold or unboald?01:50
KuLoverTheHighChild Im in the xserver reconfigureation and the name of the ati drivers looks like its named as "aati" maebe this is the problem?01:50
TheHighChildGood luck billh01:50
SewageVose, what01:50
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Kadrandgazz: cross finguers and try copying :)01:51
TheHighChildKuLover what is your card again? I will google and see what I can turn up01:51
UzzaDeadTheHighChild, good to see you again :D01:51
UzzaDeadwhats the problem at hand?01:51
billhI know the 3com USB adapter has open source drivers but im wondering if I should just use the wired lan for now and wait for better support01:51
dgazzKadran: Hmm, so I try to start konqueror as su now...01:51
TheHighChildUzzaDead hey man, you too. I think I might put up a cot in the corner ;)01:51
Vosesewage: the network.dns.disableIPv601:51
UzzaDeadthrow me down one too :D01:51
SewageI think it's Enable or Disable01:51
KuLoverTheHighChild ATI X850 XT01:51
SewageVose,  Double-click the only listed item, network.dns.disableIPv6, and then close the browser.01:51
TheHighChildKuLover ok, give me a minute01:52
UzzaDeadati makes me angry :)01:52
SewageVose, you set to Enable, I think01:52
Vosesewage: ok that might have worked thank you01:52
Vosesewage: what is it?01:52
UzzaDeadis anyone running 64bit kubuntu here?01:52
SewageVose, is it working now01:52
billhthis laptop has an ATI radeon mobility 7500, ofcourse ATI refused to make proper linux drivers for it, cant play any games01:53
TheHighChildKuLover the Vesa drivers should be a temp fix for you to get into your GUI if you want to try that right now01:53
UzzaDeadbillh, i'll trade you laptops :)01:53
TheHighChildUzzaDead I am KuLover too01:53
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billhlol01:53
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Sewagetj9991, did you fix your storage problem yet01:53
Vosesewage: yes wird01:53
TheHighChildbillh same card in my IBM T42, just gotta go with the flow01:53
billhthe pcmcia slot is also damaged though01:53
UzzaDeaddamaged?01:54
UzzaDeadcat pee on it?01:54
billhmy friend dropped my laptop, took out my wifi card with the slot01:54
TheHighChildYou there KuLover?01:54
UzzaDeadouch!01:54
billhhe bought me a us robotics USB wifi adapter01:54
TheHighChildholy crap!01:54
TheHighChildLOL01:54
UzzaDeadthat friend would be buying me a new machine or paying for its repairs :P01:54
KuLoverTheHighChild, what will I do one I get into my GUI?01:54
UzzaDeadTheHighChild,  how are you two people?01:54
billhyeh that would cost a fortune01:54
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TheHighChildKuLover well, it would at least get your system to a usable state and then we can work further on your issue. I'll keep looking though. You can hold off if you'd like01:55
billhI can fix the slot, just need to take laptop apart and fix the slot01:55
UzzaDeadso do so :D01:55
MasterEvilAceUzzaDead: I'm a bit confused too :P01:55
TheHighChildUzzaDead two people? Shiat, I better charge an amusement tax01:55
UzzaDeadMasterEvilAce, no shit..01:55
UzzaDeadTheHighChild,  you said you were KuLover too, what do you mean?01:55
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MasterEvilAceI think he meant he loves Ku, too.. and not that he was "KuLover"01:56
KuLoverUzzaDead Kulover=kubuntu loover01:56
UzzaDeadoh right...01:56
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TheHighChildUzzaDead misunderstanding, i was saying he and I both are running 64bit as per your inquiry01:56
CaBlGuYwuttup peeps.01:56
UzzaDeadoh, do you mind pastbinning your sources.lst for me :)01:56
UzzaDeadi wanna try a lil hack on my system :D01:56
UzzaDeadgonna toss the k8 kernel on my box :D01:57
MasterEvilAceThey need to change the pronunciation of Kubuntu. I read it's "Koo-boon-too" I say "koo-bun-tu"01:57
MasterEvilAceIt's easier to change the official name than to convert me to the proper way01:57
dgazzhmm, somehow konqueror refuses to start. Everything is weird here, Ill try a reboot...01:57
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JohnFluxMasterEvilAce: i prounance too and tu the same01:58
billhthey say linux is pronounced lee-nucks, Hell, I call it linux01:58
TheHighChildKuLover do you have a 'Radeon' option in your reconfiguration options?01:58
MasterEvilAcebillh: good point01:58
JohnFluxbillh: it's kinda pointless to say that you say linux as linux01:58
TheHighChildKuLover Everything I am reading indicates there is an issue with the fglrx drivers on Dapper 64 bit01:58
JohnFluxbillh: as I'm going to read both the same way :)01:58
billhlin-ux01:59
JohnFluxbillh: I guess you mean lie-nux01:59
billhyeh01:59
UzzaDeadat least you dont say it kun tu :D01:59
UzzaDeador do you...01:59
UzzaDead</conspiracy>01:59
billhlol01:59
KuLoverTheHighChild, I didnt see Radeon, but I did see ATI. I didnt see fglrk driver either01:59
KuLoverflgrx*02:00
TheHighChildKuLover I could be mistaken but I think the 'ATI' option uses the fglrx driver.02:00
billhflgrx is what I have to use02:00
UzzaDead*fglrx02:00
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TheHighChildKuLove I am still looking though02:00
UzzaDeadTheHighChild, whats the problem?02:00
UzzaDeadand on another note cvscedega is the devil02:01
UzzaDeadso is xgl02:01
KuLoverUzzaDead, would you like me to give you the erroe as well? ><02:02
KuLovererror*02:02
UzzaDeadKuLover, yes02:02
TheHighChildUzzaDead AMD64 and ATI x850 problems02:02
UzzaDeadand what you're attempting to do02:02
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KuLoverUzzaDead, "noscreens found XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset be peer) on X server after 0 requests. Then it gave me eth0: no IPv6 routers present.02:02
TheHighChildUzzaDead Pretty known issue. Plenty of people having trouble with it02:02
KuLoverYess! Im not alone!02:03
UzzaDeadodd..02:03
TheHighChildKuLover like I said, ATI is not your friend.02:03
UzzaDeadATI hates you02:03
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KuLoverI love ATI though... well.. I did untill I migrated to Linux02:04
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UzzaDeadi loved alot of things until i went linux02:04
billhHmm, I wonder if gpsdrive can talk to my usb garmin...02:04
UzzaDeadnow im filled with hate02:04
billhI doubt it02:04
KuLoverhaha02:05
UzzaDeadKuLover, if you think this is bad, dont try gentoo :D02:05
TheHighChildUzzaDead I almos thtought you said 'now I'm fillied with Kate'02:05
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UzzaDeadno kate is filled with me if you get my innuendo :D02:05
TheHighChildlol02:06
UzzaDeadi broke xmms :D02:06
billhits not linux fault, its all the hardware companies not supporting linux02:06
TheHighChildAnyone have experience with fglrx drivers on x86_64 install of Kubuntu for KuLover?02:06
UzzaDeador half ass supporting linux...02:06
UzzaDeadTheHighChild, have you referenced the wiki?02:06
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rr72who uses cups?02:06
UzzaDeadi use cups every day :)02:07
UzzaDeadmy mom bitches that i dont wash em...02:07
UzzaDeador are we talking CUPS02:07
KuLoverOkay.. redid the xorg xonfig.. About to reboot and see if that did the trick. Im on an alt machine BTW ;)02:07
KuLoverconfig*02:07
rr72STFu u konw what i mean, i hate dumb smart asses02:07
UzzaDeadKuLover, just kill the server02:07
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UzzaDeadsome people have no sense of humor..02:07
KuLovertoo late :-/02:07
UzzaDeadi hope that dude gets hit by a car on the way to church02:08
UzzaDeadand his arterial spray gets the church doors02:08
KuLovergeez.. that guy wont make it far with that TUDE02:08
TheHighChildI thought it was cunny02:08
UzzaDeadsome people are just cunts...02:08
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TheHighChildI can't imagine what'd he'd say if I whispered 'Buttsecks?'02:08
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UzzaDeador god forbid you whispered omfg hay buttseckz02:09
UzzaDeadhe'd probably pop a vein or burst and aneurysm02:09
UzzaDeadan^02:09
TheHighChildIsn't an aneurism the bursting of a vein?02:09
UzzaDeadyeah but thats in your brain :D02:09
UzzaDeadusually fatal02:09
dgazzKadran: Well, works now... But I did a recursive chown and chgrp to my home dir, is that a security risk?02:10
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UzzaDeadwe could only hope its slow and painful for him02:10
KuLoverDidnt work :`(02:10
billhif I plug in a usb device, what command do i Type to tell linux to find it?02:10
KuLoverTheHighChild, what alt driver did yo say might work?02:10
TheHighChildKuLover check this link out, It's for Breezy but may help02:10
UzzaDeadno idea...02:10
TheHighChildhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378&highlight=screens02:10
UzzaDeadKuLover, did you follow the wiki?02:11
Kadrandgazz: i guess not as the owner is your user account02:11
TheHighChildKuLover that link is about Fglrx02:11
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dgazzKadran: Okay, thanx for your help!02:11
rr72THIS CHAN SUCKS BALLS!!02:11
Kadrandgazz: you finally made, :) what a feeling, aint't it02:11
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billhwell linux detects my gps02:11
Steven_Mdid anyone see my question?02:12
Kadrandgazz: you are welcome any time02:12
billhjust wish gps drive would talk to it02:12
Steven_Mhere's a copy of my current sources.list, any idea of what I need to add to get multivurse to work? http://pastebin.com/76410502:12
UzzaDeadthat dude has issues...02:12
dgazzKadran: Two hours full of questions in my head...02:12
KuLoverUzzaDead? YOu mean did I go check on wiki.com?02:12
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UzzaDeadKuLover, yes02:12
UzzaDeadwell the kubuntu wiki02:12
UzzaDeadhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI02:13
UzzaDeadtry that02:13
KuLoverUzzaDead, Thanks!02:13
UzzaDeadSteven_M, one sec02:13
linuxmonkeySteven_M: line 1002:13
linuxmonkeyadd multiverse after universe02:14
UzzaDeador add this line: deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse02:14
linuxmonkeyUzzaDead: that works but makes your file a bit bigger than needed02:15
linuxmonkeyeasyer to just add 1 word :)02:15
UzzaDeadi dont worry much about space...02:15
UzzaDeadi have over 500gb of storage lol02:15
linuxmonkeylol thats it02:15
UzzaDeada couple kb isnt gonna make much diff to me02:15
UzzaDeadeven a few mb02:15
linuxmonkeylol02:16
linuxmonkeyi dotn even worry about GB anymore02:16
UzzaDeadme either really02:16
UzzaDead5.5gb install requirement? eh.. no problem..02:16
UzzaDeadand thats for one game lol02:17
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linuxmonkeyi got a server next to me that has 8 500GIG sata drives in raid02:17
UzzaDeadmay i drool on it?02:17
linuxmonkeyno02:17
UzzaDeadcan i at least touch it?02:17
linuxmonkeyno02:17
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UzzaDeadhow about for $5?02:17
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linuxmonkeyhow bout no cause youll steall it02:18
UzzaDeadlol no i wont02:18
UzzaDeadi've got my dual processor SPARCServer already :)02:18
UzzaDeadi swear the fan array sucked in 2 children yesterday02:18
UzzaDeadthats gonna be messy to clean up..02:19
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billhwould a usb port have a thing in dev?02:19
billhtty or something?02:19
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UzzaDeadi'll tell you in a sec bill02:19
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KadranUzzaDead: you are soo funny :)02:19
UzzaDeadKadran, i am?02:20
Kadranyeah, lol02:20
UzzaDeaddoes that mean i can have a hug?02:20
UzzaDeadmy daddy never hugged me :(02:20
UzzaDeadi think you've got to be slightly nuts to even consider using linux :)02:20
Kadranbecause he is in the floor laughing02:21
UzzaDeadlol..02:21
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UzzaDeadbillh, my usb flash drive is showing as /dev/sdb102:21
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UzzaDeadso i'd start looking in /dev/02:21
billhI see ttyUSB002:22
UzzaDeadwhat are you trying to get working?02:22
billhIm just trying to see if GPS works thru usb02:22
UzzaDeadheh no idea02:22
billhGpsDrive02:22
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billhtrying to get it to talk to gps02:22
UzzaDeadi dont even know what a GpsDrive is :D02:22
billhprogram02:22
KuLoverUzzaDead I have a quick question about that link you sent me02:22
billhlike street atlas02:22
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Steven_Mthanks all02:23
UzzaDeadKuLover, go ahead02:23
UzzaDeadno idea billh sorry02:23
billhAHHHHHHHHHHHHH it worked!02:23
UzzaDeadwin!02:23
billhOh my god it worked02:23
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billhI win finnaly02:23
KuLoverin the first set of given commands for dapper, the last command02:23
KuLover--overlay-type02:23
KuLoverthen it looks liek a think dash.. what is that02:24
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UzzaDeadyou know what i do when im not sure?02:24
UzzaDeadi just copy and paste the whole damn line lol02:24
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KuLoverI would, but Im on an alt machine02:24
UzzaDeadah..02:24
UzzaDeadsudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv02:24
UzzaDeadthat line?02:24
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KuLoverAhh02:25
KuLoverThere ti goes02:25
linuxmonkeylol02:25
UzzaDeadsee it?02:25
KuLoverThanks again!02:25
UzzaDeadnp02:25
UzzaDeadhope it works for you :D02:25
KuLoverIll let you know how it goes02:25
UzzaDeadi just hope k3b burns my iso that i just warezed from a ubuntu mirror!02:25
UzzaDeadubuntu 6.06!02:25
KuLoverlol02:26
UzzaDeadno.. wait linux isnt warez..02:26
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UzzaDeadblasted windows world!02:26
linuxmonkeyUzzaDead: according to homeland securety linux users are cyber terrorist02:26
UzzaDeadare we?02:26
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ep_who ep02:27
UzzaDeadat least im not trying to ram my finger up some random strangers ass looking for objects...02:27
UzzaDeadi've never heard of anyone forming a c4 bomb in their anus02:27
UzzaDeadwith wires trailing out to detonate02:27
UzzaDeadand last i checked shoes didnt come in size C402:28
KuLoverOOOOMMMGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:28
KuLoverHOIWIHDWOIUGBLIF02:28
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KuLoverUZZADEAD!02:28
UzzaDeadwhat?02:28
KuLoverYOU RULE02:28
UzzaDeadcan i have a hug now? lol02:28
KuLoverIT WORKED02:28
UzzaDeadcongrats :D02:28
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UzzaDeadmmm 8x500gb sata..02:29
UzzaDeadthat wiki has saved my sorry @$$ more times than i can count02:29
KuLoverITS BEAUTIFUL! *tear*02:29
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TheHighChildKuLover what worked for you?02:30
KuLoverHAHA02:30
KuLoverThe wiki link Uzzadead sent me02:30
TheHighChildnice02:30
KuLoverIt seems like it updated the flglx drivers02:30
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UzzaDeadfglrx^02:30
UzzaDeadspelling and such is everything in linux :)02:31
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=== UzzaDead sings along to pink floyd!
UzzaDeadi think im gonna install ubuntu too02:31
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UzzaDeadsee how many OS's i can stuff on this 160gb drive02:32
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brandon_does anybody have kde-devel installed succesfully?02:33
UzzaDeadhey KuLover can you do me a favor?02:33
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KuLoverSure02:33
KuLoverI can certainly try02:33
UzzaDeadcan you pastebin your sources.lst for your 64bit kubuntu?02:33
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UzzaDeadim trying to snag myself a K8 kernel02:34
KuLoverUzzaDead, lemme switch over to that machine... just a sec02:34
UzzaDeadk02:34
IlToNtOi have a problem for the broadcom 4318 wireless02:34
billhndiswrapper locks up?02:34
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UzzaDeadsome 3-in-1 should fix that :)02:35
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UzzaDeadwb KuLover02:35
KuLoverThanks Yah02:35
UzzaDeadnp02:35
KuLoverUhh.. where can I locate it?02:35
UzzaDeadin /etc/apt/02:35
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stni need restart the services of sounds in my ubuntu02:36
KuLoverYou wanted my apt conf file?02:36
IlToNtOno i don't have ndiswrapper i want install whit bcm module02:36
UzzaDeadnope just the sources.lst02:36
KuLoverHow should I send it?02:36
UzzaDeadpastebin or http://www.yousendit.com works02:37
KuLoverUzzaDead, http://pastebin.com/76415102:38
UzzaDeadthanks :D02:38
KuLoverAnytime02:38
UzzaDeadnow i hope i dont blow my system into 4k pieces02:38
KuLoverHaha02:38
UzzaDeadwouldnt be the first time02:39
KuLover:002:39
jeroenvrpanyone knows if prelinking openoffice and firefox does really help!?!?!02:39
UzzaDeadno idea02:39
UzzaDeaddamn doesnt look like thats gonna let me grab a k8 kernel02:40
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UzzaDeadoh and KuLover whatever you do dont be tempted to try xgl02:41
UzzaDeadits the spawn of satan02:41
KuLoverThe drivers?02:41
UzzaDeadthe wobbly windows driver x.org replacement thing02:41
KuLoverSure thing!02:41
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UzzaDeadi love me some windows02:41
UzzaDeadfor gaming at least02:41
UzzaDeadthe rest is linux02:41
KuLoveryou like MMORPGs?02:42
UzzaDeadnot especially02:42
UzzaDeadi like morrowind :D02:42
KuLoverI know an onpen source multi platform one02:42
KuLoverits worth a try02:42
UzzaDeadwhats it called?02:42
KuLoverwww.planeshift.it02:42
UzzaDeadlets have a look at this02:42
UzzaDeadthat looks pretty good for free02:43
KuLoverYeah02:43
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KuLoverStill in dev stages though02:43
KuLovereh.. i like it02:43
UzzaDeadi might give that a go02:44
Desh_What is a good package for forefox video streaming?02:44
KuLoverfirefox wants this "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0" what package should I install?02:44
Desh_mplayer is not in the dapper repositories anymore?02:44
UzzaDeadhow did you install firefox?02:45
KuLoverthe tar.gz02:46
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UzzaDeadi used adept02:46
KuLoverI like that way better.. Is there a reason I shouldnt?02:46
UzzaDeadyou could have done apt-get install mozilla-firefox also02:46
UzzaDeadmostly dependency problems02:46
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Desh_What should I use for firefox video streaming?02:47
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billhhmm, I have a linux noob question, how do I switch into a hidden folder, one that starts with a .?02:48
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nixternalcd .foldername02:49
billhsays doesnt exist02:49
nixternalthen it doesn't exist ;)02:49
UzzaDead:D02:49
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billhwhat, now it works02:49
billhlol02:49
nixternalhehe02:49
nixternalforgot the .02:49
UzzaDeadprobably a typo or something02:49
billhyeh02:49
nixternali do that all the time...02:49
billhcase sensitive too, throws you off used to winblows02:50
UzzaDeadyeah that gets me02:50
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UzzaDeadim gonna go toss ubuntu on the drive be back in a few..02:51
KuLoverIll be back later. Thanks for your help UzzaDead aka life saver02:51
UzzaDeadlol np KuLover02:51
UzzaDeadjust pass it on :D02:51
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graywolftest02:52
UzzaDeadicle02:52
D0M1N8RNeed a little help here. Just booted kubuntu live 6.06 and need root02:52
D0M1N8Rblank password dont work02:52
UzzaDeadtry sudo passwd root02:52
UzzaDeadand set the password02:53
KadranD0M1N8R: why you need root?02:53
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D0M1N8Rfor a insmod02:53
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claydohD0M1N8R: just use 'sudo insmod foo'02:54
D0M1N8Rah02:54
claydohand use the user password02:54
claydohyour user password rather02:54
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D0M1N8Rhmm I see on locate that rt2500 is there but I dont know how to set that up. This is a wireless chipset02:55
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CaBlGuY!DVD03:00
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)03:00
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derek__when i play mp3 files in amarok they go really fast thru but no sound comes out03:03
derek__like a one hour file will go thru in like 4 seconds03:03
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nixternal!multiverse03:08
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ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.03:08
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nixternalderek__: goto the link above...setup your source.lst like the way they show...and then go into adept or whatever...you want the libxine-extracodecs03:09
D0M1N8Rdont think this wireless setup is going to work. Its a Level1 usb wifi and according to google searches has rt2500 chipset. Ive modprobe'd rt2500 and rt2400 just incase I have a earlier version. Still no go.03:09
nixternalthat will fix your issue03:09
D0M1N8RI know sometimes the chipset is supported but not over USB03:09
nixternalrt2500=broadcom?03:10
D0M1N8RNot sure who makes the chipset. The usb stick is level103:10
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D0M1N8RRalink rt250003:10
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KuLoverAnyone know why when I try to update to amaroK 1.4, it says update(brak0?03:10
nixternalok..let me check recent wi-fi tests and see if that is listed03:11
KuLover(BREAK)*03:11
D0M1N8RI see a linux usb source code link for the chipset03:11
D0M1N8Rhttp://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm03:11
nixternalthat should work...but it is usb...hmm03:11
nixternali had issues with a linksys usb...so i threw it out ;)03:12
D0M1N8R=)03:12
D0M1N8Rthis thing was dirt cheap so decided to try it03:13
nixternalsame with that linksys...it runs fine with windows..but use it on nix and it is horrible03:13
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vschmidtHello - where are the DNS server addresses stored if I want to hard edit a conf file?  If I use network-admin it does not remember proper dns after reboot... Thanks03:18
KuLoverWhy do I get install(BREAK) when trying to update amaroK?03:18
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KuLoverWhy do I get install(BREAK) when trying to update amaroK?03:18
KuLoveroops, sry for repeat03:18
KuLoverBut, does anyone know?03:18
nixternalvschmidt: /etc/resolv.conf03:19
vschmidtthanks03:19
nixternali don't know KuLover. have you checked #amarok03:19
nixternalnp vschmidt03:19
KuLoverAh, not yet, thanks03:19
nixternalthey fix all my amarok issues ;)03:19
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brandon_Riddell?03:20
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nixternalsplash?03:20
nixternalhehe me too03:20
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cayouGoodbye WinXP, I'm sold to Dapper Drake03:21
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nixternalgood to hear that cayou...congrats03:21
cayouthanks, I am running the Live version for now, I'll be installing tomorrow03:21
CheeseBurgerMancayou: Awesome, good luck. :)03:22
nixternalgood deal03:22
DaSkreechnixternal: Nope the musicbrainz doesn't work03:22
cayouI'm very impressed, even the live version is pretty good03:22
DaSkreechWell it does but for .ogg which I've pretty much tagged out already03:22
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nixternalahh...i have't ran the musicbrainz yet...i haven't even edited an mp3 yet that i can think of in amarok03:23
DaSkreechnixternal: It can do it but ...03:23
nixternali haven't tagged anything yet ;)  i need to though03:23
cayouI was going to upgrade RAM to 1Gb (currently 512Mb) but I don't think I'll need to03:23
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DaSkreechMusic Brainnnnzzz Braaaiiinzzzzzzzz03:23
nixternallol03:23
DaSkreechThat was pretty much the main reason why I'm using kubuntu03:23
DaSkreechI keep asking about picard but no one has any idea what I'm talking about03:24
cayouAny major issues with 6.06 so far?03:24
CheeseBurgerMancayou: Only one Ive had was with my touchpad, but that can be fixed by installing the XFree86 driver, and creating a symlink to that instead of the X11 driver.03:25
cayouok, I just adjusted the time for the clock and when I clicked "Apply", my monitor went off for about 5 seconds... any explanation?03:26
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DaSkreechWhy does ktorrent do this?03:27
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DarkLegacyHey guys03:28
DarkLegacyI'm running Kubuntu on LiveCD03:28
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DarkLegacyAnd I love it so far03:28
DarkLegacyKDE is awesome03:28
cayoume too Dark03:28
DarkLegacyI'm thinking of switching over from Windows XP totally03:29
cayouI'm installing tomorrow03:29
DarkLegacyI just ran Kubuntu and I already know how to use everything, and the entire OS is just like I wanted it to be03:29
DarkLegacyNo ethernet problems, no driver bugs, nothing03:29
CheeseBurgerManwoohoo. :D03:29
cayoufast, slick03:29
DarkLegacyI love it03:29
DarkLegacyCPU Load is 0%03:30
DarkLegacyCan you imagine that?03:30
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DarkLegacyNot using CPU at all practically03:30
cayouI quit trying Linux distros about 2 years ago because I liked none of them. I can see that a lot of progress happened03:31
DaSkreechhaha03:31
DaSkreechDarkLegacy: try running top I think you will find a different report03:31
DarkLegacyTry running top?03:31
DaSkreechcayou: Wait till Sep.!!03:31
DarkLegacyWhat do you mean03:31
DaSkreechDarkLegacy: open a Konsole and type top03:32
DarkLegacyOk03:32
cayou1%, still very good03:32
DarkLegacyCPU Usage: 6.3%03:32
DaSkreechYeah a bit higher :)03:32
DarkLegacy700MB of Ram used however, but that's understandable because it's a LIVECD03:32
DaSkreechStill pretty good though03:32
DarkLegacyI've never fallen in love with an OS like this03:32
cayouall my RAM is used as well03:33
DarkLegacyEverything just 'clicked'03:33
DaSkreechDarkLegacy: Something will go wrong :)03:33
DarkLegacyI have Ubuntu 6.06 installed on my laptop and everything goes wrong03:33
DaSkreech But that's what we are here for :)03:33
CheeseBurgerManlol03:33
fentekreelhow do i change the login screen?03:33
DarkLegacyNothing has gone wrong so far, at all03:33
CheeseBurgerManI have Kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop. Works great. :)03:33
DaSkreechNice to have an encouraging world Thanks@!03:33
fentekreeli cant seem to find this confiugration utility that the forums speak of03:33
CheeseBurgerManfentekreel: amd64?03:33
DarkLegacyI'm probably going to install Kubuntu on my laptop now instead of Ubuntu03:33
cayouonce installed, how much RAM will it use? (rough estimate)03:34
DarkLegacyOne problem is that I can't find any games XD03:34
DarkLegacyUbuntu had like 10 pre-installed games03:34
CheeseBurgerManfentekreel: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120 <--- KDM theme manager03:34
DarkLegacyThanks CheeseBurgerMan03:35
DarkLegacyFree games! :D03:35
CheeseBurgerManDaSkreech: sudo apt-get install kdegames03:35
CheeseBurgerMan;)03:35
DaSkreechCheeseBurgerMan: Too late!! :)03:35
CheeseBurgerManhehe, oh well.03:35
DarkLegacyOh nice03:35
fentekreelis the theme manager in the repositories03:35
DarkLegacyInstalling games into RAM rofl03:35
DaSkreechfentekreel: What are you trying to do?03:36
Hawkwindfentekreel: sudo apt-get install kcontrol-kdmtheme03:36
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Hawkwindfentekreel: That URL CheeseBurgerMan gave you even says it's in universe03:36
CheeseBurgerManHmm, I need to read more carefully. :)03:36
HawkwindA Kubuntu package is now in "Universe" so look for updates there.03:36
cayouany canadian kubuntu users here?03:37
CaBlGuYnope..03:37
CaBlGuY;P03:37
DarkLegacyIt's decided. I'm dual-booting.03:37
DarkLegacy:)03:37
CaBlGuYwho knows how to get the packages needed to run a DVD?03:37
CaBlGuYNOOOOOOOO03:37
CaBlGuYdual booting = bad..03:37
SewageCanadians use Ehbuntu03:37
CaBlGuYDON'T03:37
CaBlGuYGIVE03:37
CaBlGuYIN03:37
CaBlGuY:p03:37
cayoulol03:37
HawkwindCaBlGuY: https://wiki.kubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:38
Sewageyeah, just swith 100% to Linux03:38
cayouor Kubuntu-eh?!03:38
SewageI did it, you can too03:38
CaBlGuYExactly03:38
CaBlGuY:P03:38
Sewagelol03:38
CaBlGuYditto03:38
DarkLegacyI'm dual booting with XP for games and Kubuntu for regular OS03:38
DarkLegacyBecause so far I can't possibly reboot right now back into XP03:38
DarkLegacyIt's too dramatic of a change03:38
CaBlGuYHawkwind YEA, i GOT RESTRICTED INSTALLED already..03:38
CaBlGuYOops.. sorry bout the caps..03:38
CaBlGuY:(03:38
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HawkwindCaBlGuY: It's OKKKK03:39
HawkwindHeh03:39
CaBlGuYhehe03:39
CaBlGuYso, what packages I need to install??03:39
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UzzaDeadubuntu seems to be the devil03:40
HawkwindCaBlGuY: libdvdcss2 ?03:40
DarkLegacy<3 Kubuntu03:40
UzzaDeadDarkLegacy:  yeah03:40
UzzaDeadim liking kubuntu a whole lot more than ubuntu..03:41
CaBlGuYHawkwind tried those, says they wern't found..  or somethin like that..03:41
cayouKonqueror seems to work pretty well for the web, anyone prefers Firefox?03:41
HawkwindCaBlGuY: Make sure you have the right sources setup03:41
UzzaDeadi definitely prefer firefox03:41
CaBlGuYhawkwind repos ya mean??03:41
HawkwindCaBlGuY: Yes03:41
HawkwindCaBlGuY: Have you looked at the PLF stuff ?03:42
Hawkwind!plf03:42
ubotuI guess plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc03:42
CheeseBurgerMancayou: I regularly use switch between konqueror, Firefox, and Opera.03:42
CaBlGuYHawkwind, ok, like I said, I got restricted in the file..   what else can I do?03:42
UzzaDeadpray03:42
CaBlGuYLOL03:42
HawkwindCaBlGuY: I'm totally new to the Ubuntu world so I just followed what was on the site03:42
UzzaDeadseems to help with linux03:42
UzzaDeadwhats the problem?03:42
CaBlGuYUzzaDead:  U got that right..   but, not so much with dapper..03:42
CheeseBurgerManCaBlGuY: try running 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2'03:43
UzzaDeadyeah i like dapper03:43
CaBlGuYCheeseBurgerMan:  OK, hang on..03:43
CaBlGuYbrb03:43
UzzaDeadso far im actually hating ubuntu lol03:43
UzzaDeadit wont even recognize my resolutions03:43
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cayouI don't know Opera, been using firefox for over a year, new to Konqueror03:44
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: You may have to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'03:44
CheeseBurgerMancayou: you should try it...the (kinda) new 9.0 beta 2 is pretty cool.03:44
CaBlGuYok, did the update, then tried the install, says libdvdcss2 not available but, is refered to by another package whatever that means..03:45
UzzaDeadim gonna sudo rm -rfv /* in a minute lol03:45
linuxmonkeyCaBlGuY: wassup03:45
cayouCheeseBurgerMan: I'll have a look at it, thanks03:45
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: I assume you know what that does... ;)03:45
UzzaDead:)03:45
CaBlGuYhey linuxmonkey how ya doin.   :)03:45
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CaBlGuYlinuxmonkey:  tryin to be able to watch DVD's..03:45
UzzaDeadhow much is 256mb in kB?03:46
linuxmonkey!restrictedformats03:46
ubotufrom memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats03:46
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linuxmonkeyus that one CaBlGuY03:46
cayou25600003:46
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UzzaDeadcheers :D03:46
DarkLegacyGuys03:47
DarkLegacyHow would I go about dual-booting?03:47
CaBlGuYlinuxmonkey:  ok..  one more time..  I got restrickted repos already...03:47
HawkwindUzzaDead: 256x102403:47
DarkLegacyExtra free space for Linux, and what else?03:47
CaBlGuYlinuxmonkey:  read up..  /\03:47
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UzzaDeadHawkwind i failed math miserably, can you tell?03:47
HawkwindUzzaDead: That's why google is your best friend :)03:47
DaSkreech!FreeFormats03:47
ubotuThere are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats03:48
cayouisn't 1 megabyte = 1 million bytes?03:48
UzzaDeadwhat about that unisex person on the tv commercials talking about ask.com?03:48
Hawkwind256 x 1 024 = 262 14403:48
UzzaDead"google isnt better, its just more popular"03:48
CheeseBurgerMancayou: 1,048,576 bytes03:48
UzzaDeadobviously they've not tried google...03:48
cayouCheeseBurgerMan: according to Wikipedia, we are both right!!03:50
CheeseBurgerManhehe, yup03:51
cayouit's either 2^10 or 10^303:51
cayou(for kB, that is)03:52
CaBlGuYso, If I got all the restricted repos like I'm posed to, and the libdvdcss2 isn't installing.  what next?03:52
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DarkLegacyOk03:54
DarkLegacySo, how do I dual boot with Kubuntu? I need some free space for it, and then Grub will handle the rest?03:54
CaBlGuYDarkLegacy:  why u needing to dual boot..03:55
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CaBlGuYwhat else ya running?03:55
DarkLegacyI need XP for games. :(03:55
UzzaDeadCheeseBurgerMan: that worked thanks03:55
UzzaDeadDarkLegacy: dont forget the pr0nz03:55
CaBlGuYAhhh another Gamer...03:55
D0M1N8Rthis thing is not seeing my drive either =(03:55
CaBlGuY:p03:55
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: Good. :)03:56
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DarkLegacylol03:56
UzzaDeadi now have 1600x1200!!!03:56
D0M1N8Rlinspire did but kubuntu isnt03:56
CaBlGuYDarkLegacy:  yes, u will use Grub once u install  Kubuntu03:56
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DarkLegacySo that's it03:56
CaBlGuYyea, that's it..03:56
CaBlGuYit's pretty easy..03:56
DarkLegacyI just get some free space, parition it, then Grub will allow me to select between Windows XP and Kubuntu on startup?03:56
CaBlGuYjust follow the promts03:56
UzzaDeadDarkLegacy: whats this about dual booting?03:56
UzzaDeadim triple just about to quad boot :D03:56
CheeseBurgerManDarkLegacy: Yes.03:56
CaBlGuYUzzaDead:  stay outa this..03:56
CaBlGuY:p03:56
DarkLegacyWow.03:57
DarkLegacyThat's really easy.03:57
UzzaDeadCaBlGuY: dont make me break yous leg03:57
CaBlGuYUzzaDead:  mutha fu... please...03:57
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CaBlGuY:p03:57
UzzaDeadim gonna wreck yous up good!03:57
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DarkLegacyOh Linux, how I loveth thee03:57
DarkLegacyLet me count the ways03:57
UzzaDeadthats uzi :P03:57
DarkLegacyThoust fastest performance03:57
CaBlGuYyea that 2..03:57
CaBlGuY:D03:57
DarkLegacyThoust amazing community03:57
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DarkLegacyThoust stylish interface03:57
DarkLegacyThoust easy boot scheme03:57
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DarkLegacyThoust ... 3,000 other things03:58
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cayouWhat is Katapult, I start it and a logo appears, that's it?03:58
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CaBlGuY:op*****03:58
DarkLegacyAlright guys03:58
CaBlGuYhehe03:58
DarkLegacyI'm gonna install Kubuntu on my laptop and PC03:58
DarkLegacy:)03:58
CheeseBurgerMancayou: it's like quicksilver03:58
UzzaDeadand worship us?03:58
CaBlGuYDarkLegacy:  yea, go for it..03:58
DarkLegacylol03:58
DarkLegacyHell yes I will03:58
CaBlGuYYa can't go wrongman..03:58
CaBlGuY;)03:58
DarkLegacyI gotta take up C++ also03:58
cayouhehe, what's quicksilver?03:59
UzzaDeadunless you try to use xgl03:59
UzzaDeadthen you can go VERY wrong03:59
CheeseBurgerMancayou: Start typing in the name of a program...03:59
DarkLegacyOr get WineX/Cedega for Kubuntu03:59
CaBlGuYLOL  yea, Xgl is baaaad..03:59
DarkLegacyHeh, anyway cya guys03:59
DarkLegacyI'll return with results03:59
juddcayou: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3398503:59
UzzaDeadxgl bit me in the nuts03:59
DarkLegacy<3 Kubuntu03:59
UzzaDeadi cried for days03:59
CaBlGuYDarkLegacy:  good luck bro..03:59
CaBlGuY;)03:59
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cayouoh! I see, thanks guys..04:00
CaBlGuYI was havin some issues with mine untill I apt-get installed glx then I was fine..04:00
CaBlGuY:)04:00
UzzaDeadubuntu makes me think someone got pissed at me and took a shit on my monitor :(04:00
UzzaDeadanyone else feel that way?04:00
D0M1N8RRoFL04:00
CaBlGuYbrb guys..04:00
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: Not really...04:01
UzzaDeadits just the colors lol04:01
D0M1N8RYa ubuntu is IMO pretty ugly04:01
cayouUzza: not in those words... ;)04:01
D0M1N8Rby default04:01
UzzaDeadpretty ugly is a compliment lol04:01
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: I thought it wasn't bad. :)04:01
UzzaDeadCheeseBurgerMan: i question your sanity04:01
_johnI read the FAQ and suggestions for playing mp3s but Anarok still wont play my songs. Any suggestions our there?04:02
CheeseBurgerManQuestion away, I'm sane. ;)04:02
UzzaDeadby whose definition :P04:02
CheeseBurgerMan_john: Have you installed libxine-extracodecs ?04:02
UzzaDead_john: what CheeseBurgerMan said04:02
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UzzaDeadhim calling amarok anarok reminded me of a funny usenet posting of a guy asking about "anus" motherboards when he meant asus04:03
_johnNo sorry I multiversed but could not locate this file name in the list of packages04:03
UzzaDeadand some other guy recommending he get an AMD ASSlon processor to go with his new anus motherboard04:03
CheeseBurgerMan_john: did you run 'sudo apt-get update' ?04:03
UzzaDeadand sudo apt-get dist-upgrade :)04:03
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: Uh, that won't help.04:03
_johnNo but will try that thanks04:04
CheeseBurgerManThat upgrades the distro, it doesn't install a certain package.04:04
CheeseBurgerMan'sudo apt-get update' checks the repos for updates.04:04
cayouWhat amazes me with Kubuntu is that drivers are not needed, I mean, I inserted an SD card in the card reader of my printer and 2 seconds later the drive was visible... running the LIVE CD!!!!!!!04:05
CheeseBurgerManWow. I wonder if my computer's card reader works... :)04:05
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cayouI bet it does!04:06
juddcayou:  USB printer?  Then the printer is acting as a hub.  And by default, most distros these days have usb-storage module installed by default.04:06
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juddSo, it's not much of a surprise that it worked.04:06
cayouAnyone here tried suse10.1? (please don't shoot me)04:06
CheeseBurgerMancayou: Maybe, but my lack of anything but CF cards makes it hard to try. :P04:06
juddI use SLES9 at work.  It's a really pain in the butt.04:06
cayoujudd: yes, worked like a charm04:07
juddThe HAL and DBUS systems make the KDE integration happen.04:07
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cayouoops, too technical for my "newbee" status.. ;)04:08
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juddcayou: just some pointers for further investigation.. of if you're wondering what's starting as the stuff goes whizzing by when you boot up.04:08
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UzzaDeadi tooled around with SuSE a bit..04:08
UzzaDeaddidnt like it much04:08
juddSuSE.. especially OpenSuSE is a good distro.04:08
cayouthanks judd04:08
juddBut the rpm package management still leaves a lot to be desired.04:09
CheeseBurgerManAnyone else using KOffice 1.5.1 with Dapper?04:09
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cayouTonight is Kubuntu testing, tomorrow is Suse, then I decide which to install04:09
UzzaDeadsuse insulted me in so many ways i couldnt count them04:09
UzzaDeadand support was pretty much non existent04:09
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juddI'd stick with Kubuntu.04:09
juddUnless you can read German.04:09
UzzaDeadi'll second that04:09
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cayoujudd: I thought someone would say that here :)04:10
UzzaDeadjudd: du sprechen sie deutsch?04:10
juddcayou: nope.04:10
cayoujudd: ?04:10
UzzaDeadcayou: i use many many OS's ask about pretty much any and i've probably used it :D04:10
juddSeriously, I look for help on SLES9, and it's all in german.04:10
UzzaDeador the users are high and mighty @$$holes04:11
UzzaDeadand act like noobs dont exist and they never had to learn04:11
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DaSkreechKubuntu torrent stalled for the past 6 hours04:11
CheeseBurgerManAnyone else using KOffice 1.5.1 with Dapper?04:11
chris_____anyone know how to install Skype on Kubuntu 6.06 for AMD64?04:11
cayouI like Kubuntu so far04:11
UzzaDeadnein CheeseBurgerMan04:11
SewageDaSkreech, try closing the torrent program and restarting04:11
UzzaDeaddont forget the prayer04:12
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Sewagelol04:12
UzzaDead!noob04:12
ubotuI guess noob is a four letter word, just like rtfm or jfgi. Don't use it04:12
UzzaDeadnoob=cayou :D04:12
UzzaDeadjk04:12
UzzaDeadi've not even scratched the surface of kubuntu04:12
CheeseBurgerManchris_____: I don't use it, but I'm on AMD64, I'll see what I can find out.04:13
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UzzaDeadwb04:13
CaBlGuYlinuxmonkey:  ya still around?04:13
CaBlGuYLL04:13
DaSkreechSewage: Yeah I know04:13
cayouHow about Ubuntu? Is it only a matter of Gnome vs KDE?04:13
CaBlGuYdang DVD's..   Grrrr04:13
CheeseBurgerMancayou: Yep04:13
Sewageyes04:13
UzzaDeadnot exactly cayou..04:13
CaBlGuYcayou:  yes,.  that's all it is04:13
godzeroDaSkreech: which iso are you d/ling04:13
UzzaDeadbut nothing is large enough to actually make that big a difference04:14
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cayouYou guys agree to disagree? :)04:14
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DaSkreechDesktop04:14
Sewageonly difference is Gnome and KDE04:14
CaBlGuYUbuntu uses the Gnome desktop environment...04:14
CheeseBurgerManchris_____: download http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-dynamic04:14
CaBlGuYKubuntu is JUST Ubuntu with K installed..04:14
fentekreelcan in install debian packages?04:14
CaBlGuYthat's IT04:14
DaSkreechSewage: atil lhate having to check it every 1/2 hour04:14
UzzaDeadi take it synaptic's package manager is part of gnome regardless of distro then?04:14
fentekreeli read that they could be harmful04:14
godzeroDaSkreech: are you using ktorrent?04:14
DaSkreechYes04:14
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UzzaDeaddont i feel like a noob again04:14
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cayouI know, but is that it? Same software?04:15
godzeroyep.. seen that prob04:15
UzzaDeadyeah cayou04:15
CaBlGuYUzzaDead:  yes, u do feel like I newb again. ;p04:15
UzzaDeadunless you run into something thats 100% gnome or kde specific04:15
SewageI like Ktorrent, but experienced that bug once04:15
cayouwell, I like KDE better (I think)04:15
SewageOne other KTorrent bug is:  sometimes, the Upload throttle will break04:15
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CaBlGuYcayou:  I started out with plain Ubuntu, had Gnome for desktop..04:15
CheeseBurgerMancayou: you can install KDE on Ubuntu, and Gnome on Kubuntu.04:15
CaBlGuYthen I decided to try K, so I sinatlled it..04:16
UzzaDeadbut ubuntu is uglier than i am04:16
CaBlGuYno biggie.04:16
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: Then change the colors/theme04:16
godzeroktorrent's ui is second only to azureas, but the code's got probs04:16
UzzaDeadCheeseBurgerMan: i did04:16
CaBlGuYUbuntu is NOT ugly thank you very much..04:16
cayouUPS brown... who likes UPS anyway???04:16
CheeseBurgerManThen quit whining. ;)04:16
CaBlGuYand I have screenshots to prove it..04:16
CaBlGuY:p04:16
UzzaDeadbut the boot and login screen is god ugly  :P04:16
UzzaDeadit looks like someone got the shits sitting on top of my monitor04:16
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SewageI like the KDE log in screen.  It has little bouncy icons04:17
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CaBlGuY;)04:17
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=== UzzaDead tackles CaBlGuY setting him on fire also :P
DaSkreechAnyone tried Ktorrent 2.0 to see if it fixes stuff?04:17
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cayouthanks guys, I'm going to bed. Next time I'll bet chatting from an 'installed' Kubuntu...04:18
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LeeJunFanDaSkreech: I dunno about compiling your own but the .deb runs my cpu up to 100% every so often.04:18
UzzaDeadcayou: enjoy:D04:18
CaBlGuYok cayou anytime bro..  ;)04:18
CheeseBurgerManG'night, cayou. Good luck falling asleep. ;)04:18
cayoulol, good night guys04:18
CaBlGuYlinuxmonkey:  U AROUND,......04:18
UzzaDeadCheeseBurgerMan: if i were to install gnome on kubuntu would it have the ugly stained underpants look of ubuntu :)04:18
ubuntu_hi04:18
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UzzaDeadCaBlGuY: touch his server he'll be around lol04:18
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: It would ook the same as if you'd just installed Ubuntu04:19
CaBlGuYOh yea, IM gonna do that...04:19
CaBlGuY:/04:19
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UzzaDeadwell thats crap :( no pun intended04:19
LeeJunFanPersonally I think that's a fitting color for gnome, it only lacks corn and peanut icons.04:19
UzzaDeadLeeJunFan: we can fix that :D04:20
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UzzaDeadchange the mouse pointer to a peanut04:20
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bohdanhello04:20
CheeseBurgerManHello04:20
UzzaDeadhello04:20
UzzaDeadis anybody in there?04:20
CaBlGuYI actually like Gnome ..  I'm a minimalist though....   I don't like a "graphical heavy" desktop..04:21
UzzaDead</pink floyd>04:21
bohdanim here04:21
CaBlGuYhello04:21
GullyFoyleBueller?04:21
CaBlGuYme 204:21
HawkwindUzzaDead: No, we're all dead, now shhhhh :P04:21
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CaBlGuYNoooooo!!!!  everyone is DEAD!!!04:21
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UzzaDeadCaBlGuY: thats because you're still running a 386 with 32mb :P04:21
LeeJunFanCaBlGuY: it's not the graphics at all, I like all the features and tools kde has.04:21
bohdancan some one provide me some help here or is there a help channel?04:21
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UzzaDeadthis is the help channel04:21
UzzaDeadof sorts04:21
godzeroBueller's sick.. almost dead I hear04:22
bohdanooo lol couse ur here :P lol04:22
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CheeseBurgerManbohdan: This is the help channel, UzzaDead's being crazzy.04:22
CheeseBurgerMancrazy*04:22
UzzaDeadbeing?04:22
UzzaDeadi AM crazy04:22
CaBlGuYNooooooooooooooooooooooo04:22
CaBlGuYreally??  :o04:22
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CheeseBurgerManWhich is why you're being crazy.04:22
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juddask away.04:22
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bohdanok i have ubuntu (DUH) and i installed the kubuntu packages through the peros... and so on....04:22
UzzaDeadcan you wrap me in my straight jacket? im feeling a bit insecure :(04:22
bohdanit all works good04:22
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CaBlGuYdangit..04:23
bohdanbut i have the volume OSD hanging in the middle of my screen04:23
CheeseBurgerManThe volcume OSD?04:23
bohdanand if i turn the volume uo it auto goes down again04:23
ubuntu_which is better, kubuntu or ubuntu? anyone?04:23
CaBlGuYbohdan:  turn it down then silly..04:23
CheeseBurgerManpardon the mis-spelling. :)04:23
CaBlGuY;)04:23
CheeseBurgerManubuntu_: Depends on whether you like KDE or Gnome better.04:23
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CaBlGuYubuntu_ your treading on sacred teritory...04:23
CaBlGuY:p04:23
bohdanit turns it self down04:23
bohdanlike some one has jamed the vol down key in04:24
ubuntu_ya, I've heard it's a controversial topic, but forgive me I'm new at this :)04:24
bohdanbut its not cause it works on gnome04:24
CaBlGuYbohdan:  whatcha bichin bout then??  :p04:24
GullyFoylefluxbox with kde support roolz and is blazing fast04:24
bohdanlol cause i want some sound :P04:24
juddbohdan: I'm having trouble understanding your problem.04:24
bohdanand i dont like tunnel vision04:24
bohdanok i will try again lol04:24
UzzaDeadubuntu_:  kubuntu04:24
CaBlGuYubuntu_  there both good..  Plain U come with Gnome, KU come with K obviously..  some like KDE, some like Gnome..04:24
ubuntu_I tried xubuntu but it sucked, now on kubuntu... so I haven't tried gnome yet04:24
UzzaDeadunless you like scat in which case go with ubuntu04:25
CheeseBurgerManubuntu_: You can install both KDE and Gnome at the same time.04:25
bohdanwhen you turn the vol down in kde the OSD IN KDE comes up04:25
bohdanwell wen i log in mine is there constently04:25
LeeJunFanUzzaDead: scat - hehe04:25
juddbohdan: really?  Not in mine.04:25
CheeseBurgerManbohdan: To be honest, I'm not sure what you're talking about.04:25
UzzaDeadhehe04:25
UzzaDeadbohdan: its broken04:25
bohdanlike someone jamed the vol down button on my keyboard in04:25
UzzaDeadreboot04:25
bohdani tried that lol04:25
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: This isn't Windows. :P04:25
juddbohdan: is amarok running?04:25
bohdanif i log into nome all is good04:25
ubuntu_ok and will there be a way to switch between them? and if you can install both, why are there two versions of ubuntu/kubuntu?04:25
UzzaDeadpray?04:25
UzzaDeadubuntu_:  for nubs04:26
UzzaDeadlike CaBlGuY04:26
ubuntu_ahhh...04:26
juddbohdan: was it always like this?04:26
UzzaDeadand myself...04:26
bohdanyes since i installed it04:26
CheeseBurgerManubotu: You can install both. There's two because they have different default desktops. IF you know you want one, then you won't have to bother uninstalling the one you don't want.04:26
ubotuCheeseBurgerMan: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about04:26
CheeseBurgerManOh rats.04:26
CheeseBurgerManThat was for ubuntu_04:26
juddbohdan: Amarok is the only app I know that uses the OSD>04:26
bohdanmmm ok04:27
bohdanbut i think the problem lies in the mappings for kde?04:27
juddDid your problem start when you began using Amarok?04:27
CheeseBurgerManjudd: Konversation has one... :P04:27
ubuntu_ok, only question then is how to install gnome now?04:27
CheeseBurgerManubuntu_: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'04:27
juddCBM: for the volume?04:27
CheeseBurgerManNo. :P04:27
bohdanbecause if i turn the volume up in the kmixer the slider goes back down again04:27
CaBlGuYbrb04:27
ubuntu_excellent.. I'll try that after I reboot thx04:27
juddThat's crazyness.04:27
juddQuick Amarok.04:28
juddQuit Amarok.04:28
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bohdanlol ok well i cant use KDE because i cant see half the screen lol so i will log into it soon and try04:28
juddGo to your system settings and turn off your sound server and turn it back on.04:28
bohdanhow can i change key mappings for hot-keys in kde?04:28
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bohdanjudd: how do i do that?04:29
juddbohdan: system settings..04:29
juddIt's all in System Settings.04:29
UzzaDeadwell im gonna go nuke my entire drive :)04:29
UzzaDeadbut a quick question04:29
Kadranbohdan: do you mean for multimedia keyboard?04:29
bohdanlol ya but i cant see most of system settings becuase of this large OSD lol04:29
ubuntu_you're not steve judd?04:29
UzzaDeadshould i use the AMD64 Kubuntu or 32bit?04:29
bohdanDELL laptop04:29
CheeseBurgerManSystem Settings > Sound & Multimedia04:29
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: What CPU do you have?04:29
UzzaDeadAMD6404:29
CheeseBurgerManbohdan: try opening console and running 'killall amarok'04:30
UzzaDeadi just heard the 64bit has... issues :)04:30
juddI'm not steve judd :)04:30
ubuntu_'k04:30
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: I use amd6404:30
juddI'm just Judd04:30
ubuntu_it was one in a million chance :)04:30
bohdandoesnt that mean i will have no sound though? lol04:30
UzzaDeadfound any day to day problems CheeseBurgerMan?04:30
Kadranbohdan: i like using klineakconfig for extra keys04:30
juddb: nope.  You're just restarting the SOUND server with Amarok off.04:30
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: Sure, but not many were amd64 specific.04:30
juddb: mostly, you should quit amarok, and then restart.04:31
UzzaDeadok day to day amd64 specific :)04:31
bohdanthanks kadran04:31
CheeseBurgerManFlash and java were a problem, but I found a guide.04:31
CheeseBurgerManNo, not really.04:31
Kadranbohdan: np04:31
UzzaDeadhmmm04:31
bohdanjudd: it happens everytime i boot though04:31
ubuntu_omg, kde ROX compared to xubuntu, very userfriendly I'm impressed..04:31
bohdanie from the first time i installed it to now as soon as the computer has loaded04:32
UzzaDeadbohdan: have you tried praying yet?04:32
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Travishey guys!04:32
CheeseBurgerManbohdan: Run 'killall amarok'04:32
juddb: right.. but Amarok will not start automatically if you really stop it and then restart.04:32
bohdanuzzadead: lol ya i used to run windows04:32
TravisI'm in love withh linux =d04:32
UzzaDeadahahaha04:32
UzzaDeadbohdan: how are you quitting amarok?04:32
UzzaDeadjust hitting the x in the upper right?04:32
bohdanalright thanks jubb and bugrger i will try that soon :D04:33
Travisuh, is there any way to minimize aMSN and Gaim to the taskybar thing?04:33
UzzaDeadTravis: gaim has a plugin to do so04:33
CheeseBurgerManWhy bother with aMSN and Gaim? :P04:33
UzzaDeadas for aMSN i couldnt say04:33
CheeseBurgerManGaim does MSN. ;)04:33
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bohdanouch?04:33
Kadrankopete do them all :)04:33
UzzaDeadhow are you quitting amarok bohdan?04:34
ubuntu_is there  akde lm_sensors viewer?04:34
Travisat the same time, cheese?  uzza: where do I get the plugin04:34
bohdani will use the killall command but im in gnome at the moment04:34
UzzaDeadit comes with it Travis04:34
UzzaDeadarghhhh04:34
bohdani cant use irc in kde cause i cant see it under the osd lol04:34
UzzaDeadhow did you close amarok in kde bohdan?04:34
CheeseBurgerManbohdan: Run 'kcontrol'04:34
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travisoops.04:34
UzzaDeadwith the x in the upper right of the window or what?04:35
juddI poked around amarok.. it's probably not the problem.04:35
bohdanumm lol ok :| i just removed kde damn it04:35
UzzaDeadjudd: im thinking he just hit the x in the upper right which doesnt close amarok but only minimizes it to the tray04:35
CheeseBurgerManbohdan: go to KDE Components > Session Manager and set it to start iwth an empty session.04:35
CheeseBurgerManUh, OK04:35
bohdanlol04:35
DaSkreechok someone was messing with my system04:35
DaSkreechYou know the system tray thingy04:36
DaSkreechHow do I get icons to stack?04:36
ubuntu_is there a KDE motherboard monitor?04:36
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UzzaDeadCheeseBurgerMan: were those problems you mentioned earlier specific to amd64 or just linux/kubuntu/ubuntu?04:36
travisso, where do I get the plugin ti minimize gaim to the taskybar, without having it clutter the windows table thing, and can gaim do msn and aim at the same time?04:36
CheeseBurgerManThe flash & java are amd64 specific.04:36
bohdani was in the repositiories and kubuntu-desktop must of been included on of the packages i removed damn 140 mb down load to install it again :|04:36
CheeseBurgerMantravis: It should be in Settings > PLugins, and it can connect to MSN and AIM at the same time.04:37
UzzaDeadodd because i tried to install flash earlier and im on 32bit ubuntu the thing wouldnt automatically install04:37
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: Hmm, flash should be easier on i38604:37
CheeseBurgerManJust go amd64. :P04:37
UzzaDeadwill you fix any problems i have :P04:37
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bohdanjust on a side note, since i installed dapper i havent accualy booted windows in 6 weeks lol thats a record for me04:37
CheeseBurgerManOnly if I can. ;)04:37
UzzaDeaddapper hasnt been out for six weeks...04:38
bohdanalpha :P04:38
UzzaDead:)04:38
bohdanlol breezy has issues with my laptop :|04:38
UzzaDeadi have no wifi with linux on my craptop :(04:38
CheeseBurgerManbohdan: Problems with what?04:38
bohdanand the uni i attend has ALL MIGHTY wireless security04:38
CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: What wifi card?04:38
bohdanipw210004:39
CheeseBurgerManbohdan: I assume that means WEP?04:39
UzzaDeadCheeseBurgerMan:  D-Link DWL-640 REV P.104:39
bohdanwords with corp psk :D04:39
bohdanworks^04:39
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CheeseBurgerManUzzaDead: You might try ndiswrapper.04:39
bohdanno uni uses WPA-Corp04:39
UzzaDeadtried it but didnt work04:39
_johnok so im here to help john out a bit but I am still a little Konfused04:39
_johnwhere can I find Easy Kubuntu04:40
bohdanwhich uses  tkip, peap, eap and certs plus user authentication04:40
_johngoogle is giving me old or bad pages04:40
TheHighChildgoogle gave me AIDS04:40
UzzaDeaddont forget the clap04:40
CheeseBurgerMan_john: It looks like EasyKubuntu is outdated.04:40
_johni new she was toooo easy04:40
bohdanlol anyone find the bigger google gets the less useful results it returns?04:40
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UzzaDead_john: http://users.on.net/~goetz/EasyUbuntu/04:41
TheHighChildbohdan I haven't gotten a decent return on google in 6 months04:41
ubuntu_easyubuntu.org04:41
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travisyou have to know how to google properly xD04:41
UzzaDeadgoogle is an art form04:42
bohdantravis: i know how to use google04:42
UzzaDeadtype in boobs and you get boobs04:42
UzzaDeadits pretty easy04:42
TheHighChildI'm a decent googler but I hate getting 4 year old pages04:42
bohdanlol i hate blogs :@04:42
ubuntu_but what quality of boobs :)04:42
UzzaDeadwho said anything about blogs?04:42
UzzaDeadubuntu_: quality if you go to about page 804:42
travisi love linux =D04:42
bohdandamn things you google sumthin and you get hundreds of blogs with ppl talkin bout the same issue but no answers04:42
TheHighChildThe billions of pages that have every keyword in them but are nothing more than a webring or redirect. Thanks GOogle!04:43
bohdani luv ubuntu04:43
UzzaDeadi love kubuntu04:43
bohdanits like suse or fedore but fast and useful :D04:43
UzzaDeadbecause it doesnt look like they just got done filming a german scheisse film on my monitor04:43
bohdanlol04:43
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TheHighChildFedora is worthless unless it's tailored to an environment. IMO, it, standalone, on a machine is about as useful as a lead rubber04:44
bohdanand fedora is HOW MANY DAMN CDS?04:44
UzzaDead5 or 6..04:45
bohdanu install it and u have every progrma know to man but the ones you want04:45
TheHighChildx and x-1 too many04:45
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UzzaDeadi think suse tried to kill me04:45
UzzaDeadi woke up one morning with a swastika for a background04:45
TheHighChildWhere I work, we do custom versions of Fedora and it's great for how we use it but I've never had much of any luck with it personally04:46
UzzaDeadyou have a job?04:46
bohdanlol my mate downloaded the dvd of kubuntu because it had more programs i hung my head in shame....04:46
TheHighChildUzzaDead hell yeah man, what do you think I'm doin on here all day?04:46
bohdanlol and a life?04:46
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TheHighChildbohdan asking a lil too much on the life04:46
bohdanlol04:46
TheHighChildmy name is indicative of my life outside of work04:46
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UzzaDead:D04:47
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bohdani have a life hence no irc for the last 4 yrs.... bout the time i got a gf :|04:47
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TheHighChildUzzaDead passes it back in disgust04:47
UzzaDeadmy last gf dumped me for some football chump04:47
UzzaDeadwith a mustang04:47
TheHighChildMy girlfriend is too busy typing this to say hi04:47
bohdanlol04:47
UzzaDeadhis brakes failed soon after and he ran into the back of a tractor&trailer ended up with a broken back04:48
bohdanouch04:48
UzzaDeadand me laughing like it was the worlds funniest home videos while high04:48
TheHighChildAny of you cats play Enemy Territory?04:48
bohdanUzzaDead: karma?04:48
UzzaDeadindeed :D04:48
UzzaDeadand ace hardware +$10 bolt cutters04:48
UzzaDeaderr04:48
UzzaDeadi mean yes04:48
UzzaDeadkarma!04:48
bohdano o o i saw a oldladdy with one of those motoscooter things they rid and the brand was karma04:48
Goat-sanlol04:49
UzzaDeadTheHighChild: i play it on windoze04:49
TheHighChildUzzaDead wtf would you do that for?04:49
Goat-sanyou didn't need bolt cutters04:49
Goat-santhey are to big an obvious04:49
bohdanso how many of you in here still use windows regually because u cant do it in k/ubuntu?04:49
UzzaDeadGoat-san: he was dumb as a brick04:49
UzzaDeadi could have strapped c4 to his steering wheel04:49
TheHighChildbohdan total conversion with Breezy about 8 months ago, Haven't had to boot anything but since04:49
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UzzaDeadbut in all seriousness i didnt do anything to the guy04:50
Goat-sanno i was saying that other people (not football player) would notice04:50
UzzaDeadthey said it was horrible lack of preventive maint.04:50
Goat-sanlol04:50
bohdanTheHighChild:  you play games or anything?04:50
UzzaDeadthats what happens when you go 100mph+ down the highway and dont check your brakes lol04:50
TheHighChildbohdan Just Enemy Territory, nothing else worth playing with a Linux client04:50
UzzaDeadquake 4!!04:50
TheHighChildbohdan my freedom is worth more than some shiatty games on Windows04:51
Goat-sanspider solitare!04:51
bohdanTheHighChild: lol so you chose k/ubuntu over games?04:51
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bohdanlol04:51
UzzaDeadi just dual boot..04:51
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UzzaDeadactually triple04:51
bohdanok what was peoples reasons from changing from windows?04:51
UzzaDeadkubuntu,ubuntu,windoze04:51
bohdanor tryin k/ubuntu at least?04:51
Goat-sanlol04:51
TheHighChildbohdan not totally. I just like Enemy Territory and found no need for an alternative. I run a few global servers and am just into it. So...i didn't give up on the other games. I just gave up on Windows software because it's shiat.04:51
UzzaDeadtoo many security problems with 'doze04:51
godzerobohdan: no windows here.. but I always preffered the unix way04:52
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UzzaDeadeven if i came on irc as root i'd probably live to see another day04:52
UzzaDeadon doze if you leave your box open for the least amount of time you've got spy/ad/malware out the rear04:52
UzzaDeadand probably a trojan or three04:52
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bohdani always liked *nix but was always to hard to do sumthin simple i could do in windows or i couldent deside on a distro and so would change weekly lol04:53
godzeroevent behind a nat.. which reaay confuses me04:53
TheHighChildbohdan I must admit, I like the command line. I'd go with OSX over Windows or Tux if I wasn't restricted on the hardware (not anymore because you cannot compile your own kernel now for OSX)04:53
Goat-sanUzzaDead: if you are the type of person who would do that, you wouldn't know what linux was04:53
bohdani work in a computer repair shop so i know *ware04:53
TheHighChildI work for a big name in computer education and our network is hit constantly. My windows laptop was hacked within 5 minutes of being on the network. Now that's some shiat04:54
bohdanlol ya04:54
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bohdanthough some sensible net living helps04:54
UzzaDeadGoat-san?04:54
bohdani ran NO anti spyware/virus for 6 months as a bet04:55
HawkwindWhat file in Kubuntu would get edited to set global wide aliases.  Like if I wanted to type 'backup04:55
godzerobohdan: I'm talking back to the 80s... windows was always behind on whatever I was doing at the time04:55
HawkwindErmm damn enter key04:55
HawkwindWhat file in Kubuntu would get edited to set global wide aliases.  Like if I wanted to type 'backup' and it run a command I have defined ?04:55
TheHighChildKubuntu Breezy was the only distro where I could get help with things. Granted, a lot of things are the same in the tux world but you have to be in it before you get all of that. Frankly, no linux is for newbs but Kubuntu was better than anything else I tried.04:55
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bohdangodzero: lol sorry i wensnt old enough in the 80;s04:56
claydohHawkwind: you will need to create a ~/.bashrc04:56
UzzaDeadyou probably werent even born :D04:56
troyHawkwind: for just the user, try ~/.profile -- or for the whole system (all users), /etc/profile (unless it's different on *ubuntu than other unices)04:56
bohdanlol 86 does that count i was half born04:56
bohdanor 4/10ths born?04:56
UzzaDeadlol04:56
godzerobohdan: ya, old guy here (35)04:56
troyclaydoh: bashrc only works for bash though - profile will work for any shell04:56
bohdanooo real old lol04:56
Hawkwindtroy: Yeah it seems to be different. In Mandriva it's /etc/profile.d/alias.sh04:57
bohdanmost the guys i work with on comps are in the 40's+ lol i feel so young and like i missed so much lol04:57
UzzaDeadthe kubuntu community seems pretty friendly at large :D04:57
Goat-san35 isn't that old04:57
Hawkwindclaydoh: Thanks.  I see some commented out aliases in ~/.bashrc it seems for the user account04:57
Goat-santhough i'm only 2104:57
Goat-sanyeah, the kubunut community is awsome04:57
bohdanlol 20 :P04:57
UzzaDeadolder than both of you :D04:57
bohdanyes the kubuntu community is great04:57
troyHawkwind: .profile should still work though - at least for bash, zsh, etc.04:57
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Goat-sanbut can any of you leg press half a ton?04:58
godzero70's and 80's were really exciting for a geek04:58
UzzaDeadi pressed a whole ton when my ex gf got on top of me :P04:58
bohdani know lol i had a nice collection of now retro hardware lol04:58
UzzaDeadi barely escaped with my life04:58
Goat-sanlol04:58
godzeroUzzaDead: age?04:58
UzzaDeadsame as troy04:59
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godzerothe city?04:59
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TheHighChildWhy o Why has the x86 arch succeeded? A little off topic but I can't help but wonder why over everything else04:59
UzzaDeadthe frosted north04:59
bohdani like x8604:59
bohdanbecause i like bank for buck lol04:59
troyTheHighChild: because it was open to cloning04:59
UzzaDeadi want a clone of myself04:59
godzeroTheHighChild: cheaper04:59
troyTheHighChild: whereas other chips required too many patent hoops to jump through05:00
bohdani can sell u a comp for $800 AUD WITH a lcd05:00
TheHighChildFair enough05:00
bohdanapples here are $1500 for bottom of the line mini05:00
godzerobig endian/ppc is way better..05:00
Goat-sanlinux_pimp: got any hot mommas for sale tonight05:00
UzzaDeadi can sell you a computer for $250 with an LCD :P05:00
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linux_pimpno05:01
bohdanlol new :P05:01
UzzaDeadyeah new :P05:01
TheHighChildUzzaDead I can sell you guys anything you want for any price you want. Will that be cash or money order?05:01
UzzaDead$200 for the LCD and $50 for the NOS 486 parts :D05:01
UzzaDeadmaybe pentium if im feeling nice05:01
Sewage!numlock05:01
ubotunumlock is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock05:01
bohdanLOL05:01
TheHighChildI hate people that are smart in Windows.05:01
bohdani can GIVE you a pent lol05:02
bohdani am smart in windows05:02
bohdanuber smart lol05:02
Sewagehow do you make it so numlock is on by default05:02
UzzaDeadSewage: in the keyboard section of system settings05:02
bohdani can remove 98% of virus and spyware with no antispwyare or antivirus tools :P05:02
SewageUzzaDead, ty05:02
UzzaDeadbohdan: thats just sad :)05:02
bohdani know05:02
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Goat-sanits called google05:02
bohdanlol and it doesnt even pay good to know it05:03
UzzaDeadnot like pimpin :D05:03
bohdanya but i can do it without a net connection :P05:03
UzzaDeadget back on that corner bohdan!05:03
TheHighChildEveryone around here uses Windows, for everything and this is supposed to be one of the best computer schools in the country (tied for first). Our entire infrastructure is Linux and Unix but absolutely every phd student runs around with their Dell running Windows. wtf!05:03
bohdanlol05:03
Sewagea Windows user wouldve said "I hate Linux.  THe Numlock key is always off"05:03
Sewageinstead of saying "I wonder if theres a way to change it"05:03
godzeroTheHighChild: where?05:03
bohdanlol or i hate nix cause i cant play my games05:03
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Random_Transithey, this may sound like a noob question...but is there any way to upgrade from breezy to dapper without losing data?05:03
UzzaDeadSewage: i'd just wire a 5v supply into the LED in the keyboard :D05:04
bohdanthats y every person i know dual boots lol05:04
UzzaDeadthen i've got my numlock light :D05:04
imbrandon!upgrade05:04
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)05:04
Sewagelol05:04
bohdanlol Uzzadead is smart05:04
TheHighChildgodzero CMU School of Computer Science05:04
Goat-sani hate dual booting05:04
UzzaDeadbohdan: smart ass maybe :P05:04
Goat-sanwell i hate rebooting in general05:04
bohdanuOW School of Comp Sci lol05:04
godzeroRandom_Transit: that's the preferred way.. so yes05:04
UzzaDeadi didnt even graduate high school :P05:04
imbrandonUzzaDead: watch the lang please05:04
Random_Transitok..thanks05:04
UzzaDead!language05:04
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.05:05
bohdanooo warning lol05:05
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UzzaDeaderr underpants i meant05:05
TheHighChildknickers05:05
UzzaDeadshhh :P05:05
Random_Transiti like this channel so much more than the original ubuntu channel....too crowded and chaotic in there05:05
bohdanlol underwear is generic :P05:05
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bohdanya also there talkin bout macs nostop or were 5 mins ago lol05:05
Goat-sani guess thats fair05:05
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UzzaDeadimbrandon sorry about the language :D05:06
imbrandonand please take non support stuff to #kubuntu-offtopic ;)05:06
Goat-sanlol05:06
bohdanok05:06
UzzaDeadso no underwear talk then eh?05:06
godzerouzz! lol05:06
UzzaDeadwhat godzero?05:06
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godzerooh your joke.. whatevere05:07
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bohdandamn banned05:08
_johnok well oh guess what I found05:08
DeshHello?05:08
godzeroAnyone here been to #kubuntu 1 year or more ago?05:08
UzzaDeadnah05:08
_johnhttp://olwin.free.fr/  has a link labeled ici   which has easykubuntu for dapper05:08
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UzzaDeadwe got banned bohdan!05:08
bohdanya i know :(05:08
UzzaDeadthats not very friendly of them05:08
bohdani know05:08
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bohdanthats harsh05:08
Goat-sanyou weren't banned05:08
Goat-sanyou just couldn't talk05:08
bohdanit was kubuntu and offtopic related and had no bad words05:08
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TheHighChildI was removed as well, I didn't even say anything05:09
_john!easy05:09
ubotu_john: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:09
UzzaDeadGoat-san: we got banned and removed05:09
_john!easykubuntu05:09
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _john05:09
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imbrandon!easybuntu05:09
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, imbrandon05:09
imbrandon!easyubuntu05:09
ubotuwell, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu05:09
_johnhey maybe someone can add easykubuntu as this is after all not #ubuntu05:09
_johnhttp://olwin.free.fr/  has a link labeled ici   which has easykubuntu for dapper05:09
bohdanlol anyone try installin ati drivers in the dapper alpha?05:10
UzzaDeadi dont touch ati :D05:10
bohdani did05:10
Traviskwhere under kcontrol is the resolution?05:10
UzzaDeadnot with a 10 foot pole05:10
bohdanlol turns out the first beta included them in the non-free but i had min custom compiled and so it killed my xserver05:10
Travisdotdotdot05:11
D0M1N8Rarg my 160G seagate drive just not playing very friendly on this kubuntu. Just booted off linspire live and it sees it fine.05:11
troyati fglrx drivers work fine for me now from the packages...05:11
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bohdanya they work now troy lol05:12
D0M1N8Rthe drive is not partitioned yet or formated05:12
bohdanoo seagate good choice05:12
godzerofglrx isn't playing nice with my 9200 as of the 2nd05:12
UzzaDeadD0M1N8R: pata or sata??05:12
noclouddoes anybody know how to create keyboard shortcuts to go to different desktops?05:12
D0M1N8RIts IDE05:12
UzzaDeadthat would be pata..05:12
D0M1N8Rk05:12
UzzaDeadmines sata and works well05:12
troynocloud: like CTRL-F#  (where # is desktop #)05:12
UzzaDeadwhat do you mean not playing very friendly?05:13
D0M1N8Rin /dev it shows up05:13
D0M1N8Rbut cfdisk comes up with some error when trying to access it05:13
UzzaDeadhmm05:13
UzzaDeadtry fdisk then :)05:13
D0M1N8Rand cfdisk on linspire had no issues05:13
UzzaDeadfdisk is your friend05:13
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D0M1N8Rhe is?05:14
D0M1N8R=)05:14
UzzaDeadye05:14
UzzaDeads05:14
bohdanmmm anyone here used a usb dvd-rw?05:14
D0M1N8Ralright rebooting to say hi to him05:14
UzzaDeadenjoy05:14
UzzaDeadnot me05:14
UzzaDeadmines ide05:14
HawkwindWe wish you all the best :P05:14
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HawkwindHey there dr_willis05:14
Travishey, thanks for the help you guys gave me last night.05:14
bohdani have a laptop so usb is my own option05:14
dr_willisMoo!05:15
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UzzaDeadbohdan: it'll probably work just fine with no horrible configuring05:15
bohdanya but i cant access it lol05:15
HawkwindShhhh, Desh is back :)05:15
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nocloudwait, so does the control f# shortcut work already?05:15
D0M1N8Ratleast kubuntu seems to be a quicker booter05:15
nocloudor do i have to configure it05:15
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nocloudoh wow05:16
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nocloudthanks :)05:16
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Hawkwindmikejb: Identity crisis or what ?05:16
bohdanon /dev/dvdrw it compails it is a usb device05:16
mikejbhawkwind: nickserv complained. sorry05:16
DeshHawkwind: ?05:16
Desh:(?05:16
Hawkwindmikejb: Ahhh, he's picky05:16
HawkwindDesh: Heh, just giving you a hard time :P05:17
troynocloud: you can change 'em someplace if you don't like that - just can't remember where it is at the moment...05:17
godzeronocloud: not bad ey?05:17
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Desh:( My repositries or something keeps getting used by some app. :(05:17
HawkwindDesh: Adept ?05:17
bohdanlol or the update util?05:17
DeshNo, I open Adept and it tells me I will not be able to remove or add packages05:17
DeshI think I set the update util not to boot05:18
HawkwindDesh: If you used Adept it's possible it locked it if you didn't exit cleanly I think05:18
HawkwindOhhh05:18
DeshOh, yeah that's probably it.05:18
DeshIt locks up when I try to install sun-java5-bin and jre05:18
troynocloud: kcontrol->Regional and Accessibility->Keyboad Shortcuts->Shortcut Sequences (scroll down)05:18
imbrandonDesh: you need to install those by hand05:18
HawkwindThere was discussion in here last night on how to fix that.  I don't recall how to do it though05:18
nocloudooh, thanks05:18
nocloudi'll go check that out05:18
HawkwindDesh: Yeah like imbrandon stated you have to install those via CLI05:19
DeshOh, ok.05:19
HawkwindIt's quick and simple if you follow the website instructions05:19
bohdantheres a repos with it in it isnt there?05:19
Hawkwind!java05:19
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:19
troynocloud: but the current shortcuts work for me - good to have the numbers associated with the desktops...05:19
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imbrandon!sun-java5-jre05:19
D0M1N8Rfdisk says unable to open /dev/hda05:19
ubotusun-java5-jre is probably ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal05:19
mikejbDesh: try aptitude. it's a nice text-mode GUI... seems to work pretty well for these things05:19
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troyD0M1N8R: probably /dev/sda instead05:20
DeshWHat is the command to get rid of a package? like a purge? I have broken installations of the two.05:20
Deshdpkg -r -purge packagename?05:20
imbrandonDesh: sudo apt-get --purge remove <pkgname>05:20
D0M1N8Rits pata though and /dev/hda does exist05:20
bimberiDesh: sudo aptitude purge <package>05:20
DeshAH ok, thanks.05:20
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troyoh, heh - /me has no clue then05:20
mikejbanyone know anything about openGL?05:21
imbrandonD0M1N8R: what does "fdisk -l" list it as ?05:21
mikejbI've got an i810 card that refuses to do hardware rendering, and the software rendering is all screwed up05:21
D0M1N8Rfdisk -l has no output05:21
D0M1N8Rfdisk -l /dev/hda says cant open05:22
D0M1N8Rcfdisk says cant open05:22
DeshWoo, got to love CLI.05:22
imbrandonD0M1N8R: try "sudo fdisk -l"05:22
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mikejbbzflag renders the ground ok, but objects only appear on the left half of the screen. opengl screensavers only use the top half of the screen.05:22
D0M1N8Rwow so no used to using the sudo05:22
DeshHow do I make firefox use my newly acquired Sun Java JRE?05:23
imbrandonD0M1N8R: you said its usb right ? its not hda then, most likely /dev/sda05:23
D0M1N8Rjust did sudo cfdisk and works fine05:23
mikejbDesh: I think there's a sun-java5-plugin package, too05:23
D0M1N8Rits IDE05:23
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UzzaDeadi'll be back05:23
imbrandonDesh: read the bootom of the restricted formats page05:23
HawkwindDesh: Read the sun java link05:23
UzzaDeadD0M1N8R: good luck with your issue05:23
DeshOk, thanks.05:23
imbrandonD0M1N8R: is it the master on the primary channel or secondard on primary chan or pri on sec chan or sec on sec chan ?05:24
D0M1N8Rits master on primary05:24
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imbrandonand your booted from it right now ?05:24
imbrandonok i missed the begning whats your issue ?05:25
D0M1N8Rno im booted onto the kubuntu live05:25
D0M1N8RI just partitioned the drive05:25
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D0M1N8Ryour sudo suggestion worked05:26
thompafor realplaer i used the realone.com instructions, the restricted-formats page is cumbersome05:26
imbrandon??05:26
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thompaif you do as it said it wont work period05:26
_johnok so now johns sound works relatively properly05:26
thompaalso the whole java part is wrong too05:27
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_johneasykubuntu installed kaffiene and real player. for some reason real player plays the mp3s on the hard drive just fine but the kaffiene does not.05:27
bohdananyone used the http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ repos?05:27
bohdanto instal real and w32codecs??05:27
thompa_john: i had the same thing05:27
bohdani did that and i can play every format on mine in mplayer / totem05:28
thompabut i only followed the restricted formats page, i had to remove kaffeine05:28
imbrandonJohn you most likely need libxine-extracodecs as the wiki states05:28
imbrandonthompa: what are you talking about, specificaly what is wrong about it, i just followed it a little while ago just fine05:29
thompakaffeine would interfere with some real audio sites like all the bbc ones05:29
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_johnhow can I get stats on the network card full duplex or not 10MB or 100MB and those kind of details05:29
imbrandonJohn ifconfig05:29
thompabut if i just download from realone.com it works for some reason05:29
_johnit just seems to take quite a long time for simple web pages to load05:29
thompaimbrandon: i di d not need libstdc++5 either05:30
_johnnope ifconfig does not list duplex or MB rate05:31
imbrandongood thompa but if you follow the wiki you do05:32
thompai followed the resricted formats page05:32
imbrandonJohn then i dont know, but even at half duplex and 10mb connection is still faster than your cable or dsl connection so it shouldent affect your website load times05:33
bohdanyou know kubuntu and ubuntu channels are both talkin bout codecs05:33
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godzerocpu time is often my bottleneck on html loads05:33
thompaimbranson: also the bbc site has some sort of web based real player05:33
thompai think its different05:34
DeshOk, even though I told it not to, every time I open a folder with Konqueror they open in new windows. how can I make them open in new tabs?05:34
thompa!codecs05:34
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories. Also refer to !restricted05:34
thompawierd05:35
thompaCTRl + T05:35
DeshEven though I told it not to, every time I open a folder with Konqueror they open in new windows. how can I make them open in new tabs?05:35
_johnso amarok tries to connect to the stream source but doesnt05:35
_johnany suggestiopns?05:35
imbrandon!repeat05:35
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Please give it 10 to 15 minutes before asking a second time, thanks.05:36
thompao h you mean by default , maybe settings i guess05:36
Desh:(05:36
imbrandonJohn what kind of steam , what error05:36
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imbrandonstream*05:36
thompadid you try settings: configure konqueror?05:37
_johnno error complaint - in konqueror I went to shout cast .com and clicked on a tune-in link and it launched amarok05:37
DeshYes.05:37
thompawell why dont you just do new tab then05:37
Traviswhat is amarok?05:37
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Travisis it a media player?05:38
thompaits just as much effort05:38
_johnthe amarok banner is at the top of my screen and if I go back to amarok from the panel, the sections do not refresh05:38
DeshNo, but I'd like it to open in new tabs.05:38
imbrandonJohn did you "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" you will need that for amarok to play mp3's or mp3 streams05:38
DeshBut it won't.05:38
TravisHey, what media player do you reccomend?05:38
thompaDesh: how do you open now?05:38
thompavlc media player, i lik,e05:38
DeshI click on the folder and it opens in a new window.05:38
imbrandonamarok05:38
thompaoh the icon05:38
Travisother than amarok..there was one that started with a K that my friend said was great05:39
imbrandonkaffeine05:39
Hawkwindkaffeine05:39
Travisahh thats it, thanks lots05:39
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thompaDesh: try configure toolbar05:40
_Pete_Mornng05:41
Traviswhere do I get AAC support05:41
Deshthompa: what do I do here?05:41
_Pete_how do I disable artsd in KDE ?05:41
_Pete_and setup sound system so it directly uses ALSA05:41
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thompathere is a new tab icon, make a toolbar05:41
thompaif its the button you want05:41
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DeshI have it, but I'd like foler to automatically open in a new tab, like they did in Breezy.05:42
Traviswhere do I get AAC support?05:42
TravisFor Kaffeine?05:42
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imbrandontravis try faad05:43
Travisfaad?05:44
CaBlGuY-SleePnight all...05:44
thompaDesh: i have open new tab icon, and it goes to balnc, so you want same location?05:44
imbrandonfaad == aac/mp4 codec lib thing05:44
thompablank sorry05:44
Travis$ sudo apt-get install faad?05:44
imbrandongnight all, travis, thats and search the wiki, the wiki isa new personas friend05:45
_johnwhat do I do about this05:45
DeshNo I have that too, but on Breezy, if I clicked on a folder on the dekstop, it opened a window. then if I clicked another one, it opened in a tab in the same window. But now, the folders would open in diff windows.05:45
_johnSetting up msttcorefonts (1.2ubuntu3) ...05:45
_johnwarning: /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype does not exist or is not a directory05:45
_johnThese fonts were provided by Microsoft "in the interest of cross-05:45
_johnplatform compatibility".  This is no longer the case, but they are05:45
_johnstill available from third parties.05:45
imbrandonJohn about what ?05:45
imbrandon!paste05:45
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .05:45
_johnooooops05:45
CaBlGuY-SleeP!tell _john about pastebin05:45
_johnit looked like 3 lines05:45
CaBlGuY-SleePyea...05:45
CaBlGuY-SleePanyway...05:45
CaBlGuY-SleePnight all05:45
TravisWhere can I find faad?05:45
thompaDesh: nevermind i see, its when you click on an icon or folder in the konqueror window05:45
godzeroCaBlGuY-SleeP: night05:46
thompaif i right click i have open new tab05:46
DeshNot in the konqueror window, like on the dekstop.05:46
imbrandontravis search for it in adept or on the wiki05:46
thomparight05:46
DShepherdDaSkreech: no05:46
DaSkreechJoker05:46
Travisalright05:46
DaSkreechDShepherd: I meant a long time ag o today05:47
thompaDesh: that sounds like kde settings to me then, other thant that. no clue05:47
imbrandonJohn what were you running when you got that message ?05:47
DShepherdDaSkreech: not that I rememeber05:47
DeshOk, thanks anyways. :)05:47
_johnok so that was installing the extra-codecs and runs into that error dpkg: error processing msttcorefonts (--configure): and subprocess returned error code 105:47
Traviswhat is adept?05:48
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imbrandonTravis: adept is the package manager in kde, look in your kde menu05:48
_johnTravis: the gui for teh apt package manager05:48
Travisoh..how do I get there? XD05:48
imbrandonthe k menu05:48
Travisk,. do you guys know about the Linux Google?05:49
imbrandonyes05:49
Travisits pretty cool.05:49
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_johnok so with a fresh konquerer I went to shoutcast again and it launched amarok which seemed to get a tad further but still seems to hang with connecting to stream source05:51
barros_I'm trying to compile rt2570 as module in my kernel but it is not compiling.. it is marked as module, but nothing is touched.. anyone knows something about this?05:52
Travishow about flash suppoprt? I went into synapsis and did all the flash stuff05:53
thompagzine also is messing up real audio05:53
_johnmaybe I have to get this package msttcorefonts installed somehow05:53
imbrandonTravis: 99% of what your asking is awnserd on this page .......05:54
imbrandon!restricted05:54
thompait cuts off real player, and wont play the site05:54
ubotuI guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats05:54
TravisXDDD I'm sorry, I'm not really even paying attention -.-05:54
thompaim going to purge gzine for good05:54
godzerogood night all05:55
thompai think its maybe the default settings but i dont know05:55
Travislinux firefox = hate myspace05:55
thompamurdock-space05:55
thompathey are watching you05:55
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barros_got that.. :D forget to enable usb network framework06:00
raw-beanhello. Is there any applet which can allow me to change the cpu scaling governor for each detected CPU on my system ? klaptop only does it for the first CPU.06:00
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KuLoverHas anyone else installed firefox from source?06:01
bigredradioI'm looking for a fast mirror in southern california. Anyone have any suggestions?06:01
raw-beanWoe is me. Isn't there anyone using kubuntu on a dual core laptop ?06:02
timbbaDoes anyone know how to get konsole program work by clicking shortcut on desktop? I have created a shortcut and tell it to open it in konsole, but I get an error "Konsole is unable to open a PTY...."06:02
timbbaadding: normally the program works in konsole: "sh xxxx.sh"06:03
barros_wel, lets try one more reboot.. brb06:03
bigredradiotimbba: Do you want it on the desktop of kpanel06:04
luisitowell, the new kubuntu is really great!!06:04
timbbaNo.. i have the shortcut on main screen..06:05
bigredradioAnyone know of a fast mirror so I can download the latest iso?06:05
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timbbaor do you mean in the below to kpanel? or do you mean that i use kpanel?06:06
bigredradioright click, I think there is "create link to application"06:06
timbbayes, i have do that06:06
timbbaand tell it to open in konsole..06:06
bigredradioAll it does is launch the app. Try launching it from a console first. Does that work06:06
timbbakonsole screen shows and tells the error06:07
bigredradioWhat is the full error06:07
Sewagein Konqueror, can you configure each folder indiviudally. like some show icons, others show list06:07
timbba> "Konsole is unable to open a PTY(pseudo teletype). it is likely that this06:07
timbba> is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to06:07
timbba> have read/write access to the PTY devices"06:07
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bigredradioDo you have permission to access a new pty device?06:08
timbbaI'm not sure..06:08
bigredradiols -la /dev/pty*06:08
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bigredradioThen see what the group/user permissions are. It will be owned by root.06:09
barros_almost there.. now I got everything working, except the splash screen..06:09
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barros_I got a black screen, it try to display something, but nothing is showed..06:09
barros_any hints?06:10
timbbayes... there are plenty of ptys.. and all have the "crw-rw-rw-" access06:10
luisitohow can i disable the status bar in konqueror?06:10
bigredradiocheck /etc/securetty and see if there are entries for pty0/806:11
fentekreelcan someone help me get vnc working ?06:11
DaSkreechHow do I set the System "tray" to stack?06:12
fentekreeli just need to know how to set it up06:12
fentekreeli've got the ports forwarded and such06:12
timbbathere are not entries of ptys06:12
bigredradioWhat is there (not totally familiar with kubuntu)06:13
DaSkreechAnyone know about the System Tray06:13
DaSkreech I just checked and that's actualyl what it is kalled :-)06:13
timbbathere are access.conf, group.conf, limits.conf, pam_env.conf and time.conf files06:13
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bigredradioSorry timbba, but I do not have a system in front of me. You might need to google for the exect error.06:14
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timbbaok, thanks for help anyway :)06:15
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linuxmonkeybigredradio: if you go to ubuntu.com in the download section, most of those servers have kubuntu as well, you just got to change directory06:17
linuxmonkeyim out for the night guys, ttyl06:18
Sewagein Konqueror, can you configure each folder indiviudally. like some show icons, others show list06:19
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zaphaboneI'm having a problem where my video/keyboard driver seem to screw up when I drop to the login screen when I "end current session", but it boots just fine.. any ideas?06:22
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scarnanyway to fix the clock always going to UTC?06:23
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judd 06:24
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judd06:24
scarnalways having to reset my clock in windows after returning from kubuntu is a pain in the ass. its whats keeping me from totaly commiting to kubuntu06:25
LeeJunFanscarn: sudo tzconfig06:26
frank_scarn: there is a way to have linux leave the BIOS clock to UTC but I'm not sure how.06:26
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judgenanyone know of a free website provider, like xoom was along ago.06:27
astro1billanyone know how to get a list of networks.  I would like to connect to undernet, but I can't figure out how to do it with this new 'konversation' client.06:27
LeeJunFanjudgen: apt-get install apache ? :)06:28
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judgenLeeJunFan i dont want to put a site on my computer.. i want a site to host my install script....06:28
D0M1N8Rgoogle free hosting06:28
judgenastro1bill does not /server irc.undernet.org work?06:28
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LeeJunFanastro1bill: http://www.undernet.org/servers.php06:29
DaSkreechOk Kubuntu needs to stop doing that06:29
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scarnLeeJunFan, ty ill give that a try. probably wait for the cd to be delivered 8)06:31
D0M1N8Rburnt 2 copies of kubuntu and randomly having boot issues. Just replaced the CDRom with spear one laying around after checking the MD5 on iso and cd. Looks like its already quick boot is working even faster now with no hickups!06:31
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mueslihey guys06:31
mueslihow can i force kubuntu to boot up in textmode (no vga mode)06:32
LeeJunFanmuesli: is it installed or running live CD?06:32
muesliinstalled06:32
LeeJunFanmuesli: rm -f /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm06:32
D0M1N8Rspoke to soon.. usb kb/mouse just died06:32
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_johnso is  automount the floppy when a disc is put into it06:33
muesliLeeJunFan: no, i'm actually talking about the kernel06:33
DaSkreechYeah Kubuntu freezes up on me every now and again06:33
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muesliit scrambles my screen the very moment vmlinuz gets loaded06:33
DaSkreechWhy did Open office's name change?06:34
_johnI mean is there a way  automount the floppy when a disc is put into the floppy drive06:34
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LeeJunFanmuesli: ah, you mean the graphical boot progress bar thing?06:34
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muesliyes06:34
mueslii tried playing with the vga parameter06:34
mueslibut it just seems to ignore it06:34
muesliinterestingly the installer worked fine06:34
LeeJunFanmuesli: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the quiet and splash args06:34
vinboyhi06:36
vinboyhow do I change the owner of  a directory using NTFS filesystem?06:37
vinboybcoz i need to share it thru Samba06:37
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stnin your filesystem06:37
judgenmuesli just choose in the bootup of kdm to choose cli instead06:37
stnor in samba06:37
mueslijudgen: well, i don't even get that far ;-)06:37
judgenok06:38
mueslicause my screen is scrambled06:38
muesli;-)06:38
muesliso all i can do is passing manual kernel parameters06:38
judgenany good soul want to host a 200kb file for me?06:38
muesliand i'm yet looking for the right one06:38
Travisjudgen06:39
Travisill do it O_O06:39
mueslijudgen: opensource related?06:39
judgennice Travis06:39
judgenits just my install script06:39
judgenand an coloscheme06:40
Travisuh, send? you mean host on a webserver right06:40
judgenyes06:40
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Travisok, send it over06:40
Travis!pint06:40
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Travis06:40
Travis!ping06:40
ubotupong06:40
Travis!ping06:40
Travis!ping06:40
Hobbsee!msgthebot06:40
judgenTravis im sending,..06:40
ubotuPlease message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:40
Travis...its not saying anything about a file transfer O_O06:41
judgenTravis got im?06:41
LeeJunFanHobbsee!06:41
Travisaim.travisimoo msn.travisimoo@gmail.com06:41
Hobbseehey LeeJunFan06:42
HobbseeTravis: what are you trying to do?06:42
judgenHobbsee i am trying to sen a file06:42
Travisoh, I'm hosting a file for judgen06:42
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Hobbseeoh ok06:42
judgenTravis i have added you to im06:42
Hobbseethere's the pastebin, you know06:42
Traviswhich one o.o06:42
judgenmsn.travismoo@gmail.com06:43
Travisuhhh, make sure you didn't add the msn. part06:43
judgenrofl06:43
Travisjust travisimoo@gmail.com , for my MSN06:43
judgeni know06:43
Travishaha ok :P06:43
Hobbseeyay!  the filter finally worked.06:44
Travisi didn't get a noticeee, ahh brb i need nachooz06:44
HobbseeTravis: any of them?06:44
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judgenTravis i sent an email instead to your gmail.. seems that my im client is messing with me06:45
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judgenoooh soon i have downloaded an entire documentary series about the industrial revolution in england.06:47
judgenhow bloody nice06:47
Travisjudgen, I'm still yet to get the email o.o06:47
TheHighChildlol, what's the flick?06:47
TravisTravisimoo@gmail.com . . .maybe i typod it06:47
TheHighChildAnyone use a dynamic DNS service?06:48
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D0M1N8Rk so I formated /dev/hda1 with reseir4 and now starting install and it wants to re-format it as ext306:50
D0M1N8RI want reseir4 damit06:50
D0M1N8R=)06:50
LeeJunFanD0M1N8R: why?06:50
D0M1N8Rcuz I do06:50
LeeJunFanD0M1N8R: is it the bugs or the slower speeds you want? :p06:50
D0M1N8Rext3 is suppose to be faster?06:51
Goat-sanlol06:51
D0M1N8Rreseir4 for me seems to be reliable. No issues yet06:51
SewageWhy did Kubuntu remove some Konqueror features06:51
D0M1N8Rand this is not a critical install06:51
LeeJunFanD0M1N8R: recent benchmarks have shown it to be on almost all operations.06:51
Goat-sani dont know about speed, but ext3 is ALOT more safe/secure06:52
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LeeJunFanSewage: ask Riddell some time when he's on. To make it less confusing. :p06:52
SewageWhos' that06:52
SewageI just want to be able to configure individual folders06:52
Sewageso some show icon view, others show list view, etc06:52
D0M1N8RI am leaning on speed though. Dont care bout safe and as I said so far so good with the experamental resier406:53
LeeJunFanSewage: rm -f /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings and cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror.rc06:53
TheHighChildAnyone know, off hand how to change the default file listing of Konqueor. I wasn't able to find it06:53
defryskD0M1N8R, reiser 4 does not work with grus so keep your /boot on something else or switch to lilo06:53
defryskgrub*06:53
LeeJunFanSewage: -rf that is06:53
SewageLeeJunFan, thx. how did you find that06:53
Sewagerm -rf?06:53
LeeJunFanSewage: I think it's in the kubuntu.org faq, but I've known it for a while.06:54
Sewagecool thx06:54
LeeJunFanSewage: yeah, kubuntu-default-settings is a dir.06:54
D0M1N8Rlinspire was using grub/optional reseir4 and no issues06:54
Sewageand is that a bug or a feature06:54
D0M1N8Ronly on there five-0 V2 has it stopped installing with reseir406:54
defryskenyway xfs seemt to be the fastest06:55
defryskseems*06:55
defryskand I dont care06:55
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Sewageobviously a feature06:55
Sewagehence the -orig06:55
LeeJunFanSewage: right.06:56
LeeJunFanSewage: some things were removed so as not to confuse people with too many options.06:56
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Sewageoh06:56
Sewagelike Windows users06:56
TheHighChild!help06:56
LeeJunFanSewage: personally I don't agree at all with that, but at least it's an easy fix.06:56
defryskSewage, options are optional06:56
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TheHighChildSorry guys, new to IRC. How do I set myself away?06:57
LeeJunFanTheHighChild: /away06:57
TheHighChildrather, where can I look up the commands/options available06:57
TheHighChildLeeJunFan when I do that, it says 'You are not marked as being away'06:58
LeeJunFanTheHighChild: /away [reason] 06:58
TheHighChildSorry again for the noob questions06:58
TheHighChildawesome, thanks!06:58
D0M1N8Rso kubuntu wants ext3 or nothing eh =,(06:59
Search4Lancerso.... how do I extract an .ace file?06:59
LeeJunFanD0M1N8R: I really don't know, I would imagine there would be a way to do any FS you want, but I've not tried anything else since switching to kubuntu.07:00
SewageI like extra options.  What other apps have been changed07:01
D0M1N8RIll search around and see what I trip over07:01
Sewagethat fix worked07:01
D0M1N8Rprobably need to use the non graphical installer or something07:01
SewageI guess I can just search for -orig07:01
defryskSearch4Lancer, sudo apt-get install unace07:02
defryskSearch4Lancer, restart konq and all should be well07:02
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LeeJunFanSewage: afaik that's it. I did a find for orig once too and came up blank.07:03
SewageI guess thats it07:03
Sewagelol07:03
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noaXess_kubuntu!ati07:04
ubotu[ati]  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers07:04
judgenrofl after 30 minutes of using windows i got a virus eating my .exe files07:05
Travisgnight erryone07:05
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judgenim never going back to windows again07:05
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jaychampCan someone possibly help a linux newb out here07:05
Hobbsee!helpme07:05
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)07:05
judgenjaychamp sure, what is your problem07:05
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HobbseeTravis: please kill those away messages.07:06
jaychampHave a compaq, that has an rf kill switch for my wlan07:06
TravisSorry, its auto when i set away.07:06
judgenhaha i have scanned 1% of my windows drive and now i have 900 infected files07:06
HobbseeTravis: :) so i figured.  please turn it off07:06
defryskTravis, dont set away then07:06
jaychampcannot find out how to get it activated07:06
judgenrofl windows sux ballz07:06
_rince_mrgn07:06
Hobbseedefrysk: by all means, set away...just dont get it to output a message with it07:06
Traviswell it only does it ONCE, but I wasn't using the away function right. sorry guys :P07:06
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jaychampIt's software activated not hardware07:07
HobbseeTravis: true :)07:07
defryskHobbsee, just turn the client off is my advise07:07
Hobbseedefrysk: i was thinking of the other method :P07:07
SewageHobbsee, do you work on Kubuntu07:07
HobbseeSewage: yes...07:07
LeeJunFanFailure is not an option! It's a feature on windows :p07:07
HobbseeLeeJunFan: hehe07:07
jaychampLinux is failing for me :(07:08
Sewagewhy07:08
judgenLeeJunFan i dont see wy people still use it, how can the system folder be infected, i have not even logged in as administrator07:08
judgenstill at 1% 1200 files07:09
Sewageone scary feature of Windows youll find:07:09
SewageRemote Assistance is On07:09
LeeJunFanjudgen: "people are stupid". If OS'es were toothbrushes, millions of people would still be brushing their teeth every day with a crap flavored microsoft toothbrush.07:09
Hobbseei know!  so's remote registry edit.07:09
SewageLOL remote reg edit07:09
Sewagewtf07:09
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Hobbseeand to make it FAST!07:09
=== Hobbsee considers...to install a second copy of dapper, or be lazy, and wait for a while...hmmm...
judgenLeeJunFan or a steel brush used to clean rust from metal. "Why not everyone else is doing it, so i must do it too"07:10
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defryskmarketing is what its called07:11
judgenthe most annoying "feature" of windows is that the registry is unreadable in a base system, as it is written in binary... that makes me so agrivated it not even funny anymore07:11
defryskif ther is no need , vreate the need07:11
defryskcreate*07:11
judgendefrysk true07:11
defryskmany businesses have an interst in ms07:12
defrysklike virus schanners , spywarescanners etc etc07:12
defryskso those comanies wil always push ms07:12
Hobbseejudgen: you didnt learn to read binary thru school?  shame!  :P07:12
judgeni have now so many infected files that the a-virus software cant cope07:12
LeeJunFanI own a business, and my interest in MS is that they never fix it, if they do I'll make less money fixing it. :)07:12
defryskjust create comanymaking flaws does the trick I guess07:13
judgenHobbsee i cant read binary, but i can make sense of hex =)07:13
Hobbsee:)07:13
defryskcompany*07:13
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=== LeeJunFan can read upside down!
judgenHobbsee haha07:14
judgenLeeJunFan i can do that too07:14
=== defrysk can read chinese
=== Hobbsee can read upside down too :) - very useful
judgenLeeJunFan i can read in 8 different languages too07:14
Hobbseebah, cant do that.  only bits of german.07:14
LeeJunFanmirrored too.07:14
defryskno clue what  it means tho07:14
judgenand understand 99% of the content07:14
RobNycwhat icons theme u guys using07:15
judgenswedish, norwegian, german, french, english, pitml, finnish, spanish and a very limited estonian07:15
defryskjudgen, 99 % of the content is usually bullshit anyway07:15
judgenRobNyc i always use mono-theme looks awsome07:16
RobNycah07:16
RobNycI only found 2 or 3 icons themes on repository07:16
judgennot for people that likes colous though...07:16
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judgenits moonochrome07:16
judgenbut very nice indeed07:16
LeeJunFanSpeaking of understanding other langs and such. Had an ATT tech who could tell what speed a modem connected at by listening to the carrier tones.07:16
judgenRobNyc try looking at kdelook.org07:16
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DaSkreechHobbsee: Somethings up07:17
judgenLeeJunFan i can do that too, unless the modem is slower than 33000 baud07:17
HobbseeDaSkreech: the sky, or something else?07:17
DaSkreechMy system tray has changed07:17
LeeJunFanWe had DS3 problems and he asked me to send him a recording of the handshake, so I sent him some whale sounds, he said it sounded like his ex-wife :)07:17
D0M1N8Rjeesh first boot after install grub has a error 18 and this is on ext307:17
DaSkreechIt used to stack now it queues07:17
Hobbseeah yes, you got kde 3.5.3?07:17
judgen56k is the easiest07:17
james_xxxi have an old laptop with a non-functioning CD-ROM drive.... would anyone knoe how i might install kubuntu without the CD-ROM drive?07:17
D0M1N8R=,(07:17
DaSkreechHobbsee: Oh it changed that?07:17
DaSkreechHobbsee: That sucks :( how do I get it back?07:18
HobbseeDaSkreech: change the width.  i think it's 48 pixels that the icons split in two rows for07:18
Hobbseeer, height07:18
DaSkreechWhere?07:18
Hobbseeyes, it did.  it was one of the first thing i noticed when i first tested it07:18
HobbseeDaSkreech: right click kicker, configure, size section, custom, 4807:18
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DaSkreechI must be dumb :-( Where?07:20
defryskDaSkreech, rightclick the panel07:20
DaSkreechRight07:20
DaSkreechI get configure System Tray07:21
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defryskDaSkreech, empty spot on panel07:21
nixternallaunchpad is going down in 10 minutes for maintenance07:21
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vinboyhi07:22
vinboycan someone unban me from #ubuntu pls?07:22
defryskvinboy, if I could I probably wouldnt07:23
judgenvinboy you have probably done something07:23
Hobbseevinboy: PM me07:23
defryskvinboy, just be ptient bans are usually temporay07:23
Hobbseedefrysk: not if someone doesnt ever undo them :P07:23
defryskHobbsee, lol07:23
judgenanyone know of a good torrent site for legal downloads, such as documentaries and such07:24
Sewagetheres no such thing as a legal torrent07:24
judgenSewage yes there is07:24
HobbseeSewage: sure there is.07:24
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Hobbseewhat are all the linux cds then?07:24
Sewageoh yeah07:24
DaSkreechHobbsee: Kubuntu crashed again07:25
judgenSewage and all stuff broadcasted on public service07:25
Sewagejudgen, maybe  www.torrentspy.com07:25
HobbseeDaSkreech: darn.  define crash07:25
DaSkreechMouse moves nothing eles does07:25
DaSkreechAlt+Ctrl+Backspace == nothing07:25
DaSkreechAlt+Ctrl+Fx == nothing07:25
HobbseeDaSkreech: alt + ctrl + f1?07:25
Sewagehttp://www.torrentspy.com/directory/55/videos/documentary07:25
DaSkreechPower button == nothing07:25
Hobbseehmmm...weird...07:25
DaSkreechMouse still moves around though07:26
HobbseeDaSkreech: oh...that....07:26
judgenSewage all of those isnt legal though =)07:26
DaSkreechHobbsee: YOu know it :)07:26
judgenmythbusters...07:26
HobbseeDaSkreech: when you find that happens again, hit the kmenu, logout, logout , and the keyboard input starts working again.07:26
Sewageoh sorry07:26
DaSkreechIs it fixable?07:26
Hobbseei dont know what th ehell that is, but it's most annoying!07:26
DaSkreechKmenu doens't work07:26
Hobbseeno, wait...the power button as well...hmmm...07:26
DaSkreechlet me define the mouse works07:27
DaSkreechIt moves when I move it07:27
DaSkreecha bout a second lag07:27
DaSkreechClicking does nothing07:27
HobbseeDaSkreech: what video card?07:27
DaSkreech960007:27
DaSkreechATI07:27
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DaSkreechyay The system tray is back :-)07:28
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HobbseeDaSkreech: yay!07:28
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DaSkreechSo I'm guessing it's a X error that kills my Keyboardand my GUI07:28
DaSkreech Of course I need to stop it from occuring cause I can't recover from ir07:28
HobbseeDaSkreech: check in /var/logs somewhere - see if there's a reason07:28
DaSkreechit07:29
Hobbseehmmm...i wonder if the ati drivers have something to do with it07:29
DaSkreechI didn't install any ATI drivers07:29
judgenDaSkreech get fglrx07:30
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DaSkreechjudgen: Do they make life better or worse?07:30
judgenfaster atleast07:30
judgenbut if life is going to get better, you should really stop using computers and take a cassanova class =P hehe07:31
DaSkreechSo I'm supposed to be a cassanova AFTER computers?07:31
DaSkreech man I do everythign backwards07:31
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DaSkreechHmm07:33
DaSkreechMemory corruption detected07:33
DaSkreechMight be that you think?07:33
DaSkreechI think I'm running out of memory07:34
Lunar_RavenCouldn't compile type-size test.. Your system is strange  <---trying to install museek from source07:35
Lunar_Ravenwould anyone have any idea what that means?07:35
Lunar_Ravenlol.07:35
judgenor that you have ecc enabled in bios, and your hardware does not supports it07:36
judgen^ DaSkreech07:36
judgenLunar_Raven you are proably building it with faulty or the wrong dependencies07:37
Lunar_Ravenhmm07:37
DaSkreechOk i think something is eating my resources07:37
Lunar_Ravensomeone said maybe it has something to do with gcc07:37
judgenLunar_Raven probably, do you use gcc4 or gcc307:38
Lunar_Ravenwell, i'm not sure.  I see both are installed.  Should both be installed?07:38
judgenLunar_Raven most apps today uses gcc3 and if you are trying to build with gcc4 (mostly backwards compatible) it might not work07:38
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judgenyes both should be installed, but you have to specify that you want to use the gcc3 tree07:38
Lunar_Ravenohh07:39
DaSkreechWoah07:39
Lunar_Ravenhow can i check which is being used?07:39
DaSkreechDesktop jsut crashed and restored it self :)07:39
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DaSkreechkwin dies07:39
DaSkreechdied07:39
judgenis it just me? or is gnome getting wors with every release?07:40
Lunar_Ravennot just you07:40
Lunar_Ravenhaha07:40
DaSkreechWhy is amarok eating more CPU than X.org?07:40
DaSkreechIs that normal?07:40
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Lunar_Ravenx.org doesnt take much cpu07:40
judgenif gnome continues like this it will be completley worthless in about 2 year07:40
kakaltohow can I edit the startup runlevel?07:40
DaSkreechIt's normally at the top of my list07:40
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kakaltoI tried "bum", but having some issues... can I do it from the console?07:40
RobNychttp://osdir.com/Article8812.phtml07:41
HobbseeDaSkreech: which version of amarok?07:41
kakaltojudgen: hmm? what do you mean?07:41
DaSkreech1.4.007:41
HobbseeDaSkreech: hmmm....07:41
judgenkakalto it removes all the options and forces you to use "the best default"07:41
Lunar_Ravenjudgen: how can i see which gcc is in use?07:42
judgeni dont even know how to make the windows lower on right-click anymore with gnome...07:42
_rince_Lunar_Raven: gcc -v07:42
DaSkreechHobbsee: Please don't make me downgrade :-) I Like 1.4 a lot except it has no mp3 musicbrainz07:42
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kakaltojudgen: on upgrade, you mean?07:42
SewageWhat do people use Picasa for07:43
kakaltooh, the dumbing down of gnome.07:43
kakaltoyeah, I dislike that.07:43
UzzaDeadhow would one generate a new sources.lst file :D07:43
HobbseeDaSkreech: any odd plugins, or something?07:43
Hobbsee!tell UzzaDead about repos07:43
Lunar_Ravenhmm07:43
Lunar_Ravensays gcc isn't found07:43
DaSkreechOther than Lyrics plugins nothing07:43
judgenLunar_Raven "sudo gcc -v"07:43
DaSkreech And they are all turned off07:43
SewageI mean what is it about Picasa that people like so much07:43
UzzaDeadHobbsee, i love you man07:43
HobbseeDaSkreech: which engine?07:43
kakaltoDaSkreech: they aren't hard to turn on.07:43
DaSkreechIt's released by Google :)07:44
Lunar_Ravensudo: gcc: command not found07:44
DaSkreechI know07:44
Lunar_Raveno.O07:44
DaSkreech thats why they are off07:44
Hobbsee!b-e07:44
ubotuor if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.07:44
HobbseeLunar_Raven: ^07:44
DaSkreechHobbsee: Xine07:44
kakaltogcc doesn't come with (k)ubuntu by default, does it?07:44
HobbseeDaSkreech: hmmm...i wonder why you get that...07:44
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Hobbseekakalto: that's correct07:44
UzzaDead!easysource07:44
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:44
kakaltoHobbsee: ahk07:44
_rince_DaSkreech: have a look at: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.0607:44
_rince_my musicbrainz works again ;)07:45
Lunar_Raveni think thats what i needed ubotu07:45
Lunar_Raven:)07:45
Lunar_Raventhanks07:45
DaSkreech_rince_: Brrraaiinzzz07:45
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judgenhow did we cope before google? i only remember hating altavista and yahoo07:46
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Lunar_Ravenyay07:46
Lunar_Ravensolved my compile problem07:46
Lunar_Raventhank you07:46
judgennp07:46
DaSkreechHobot07:46
judgen=)07:47
Sewagethere was Lycos07:47
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Sewageand the Spider one07:47
DaSkreech_rince_: About this line07:47
DaSkreechwget http://www.czessi.net/kczessi.gpg #(optional)07:47
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DaSkreechthe # should be ignored correct?07:48
UzzaDeadis there a way to rice my kubuntu :D07:48
_rince_yap07:48
UzzaDeadyou know whistle tips, neon underglow :)07:48
HobbseeDaSkreech: yeah, that just means that "everythign on the rest of this line is to be ignored"07:48
UzzaDeadmake it go wooo woooo!07:48
judgenDaSkreech yes07:48
_rince_DaSkreech: but when you think about gpg it maybe not recommended ;)07:48
DaSkreechYeah I know they just have it so consistent in the rest of the example it seemed like it had to be there :)07:48
DaSkreech_rince_: Kpg? :-D07:49
_rince_!?07:49
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _rince_07:49
DaSkreechIsn't signing always good once you trust the person?07:49
_rince_but how canyou trust that key? :)07:50
DaSkreechWell you like it07:50
DaSkreecheverywhere I go they keep pointing me back to that repo07:50
UzzaDeadguys, do i want to enable source in my sources.lst?07:50
DaSkreechUzzaDead: if you are gettin the source07:50
UzzaDeadDaSkreech, dumb it down for me?07:50
DaSkreechor going to be doing build-dep07:50
_rince_ubotu: ?07:50
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _rince_07:50
DaSkreechUzzaDead: You know about source code?07:50
UzzaDeadi know OF07:51
UzzaDeadas for modifying it no07:51
DaSkreech_rince_: Course the problem is I did this already and nothign changed07:51
UzzaDeadbasically do i need it to do sudo apt-get install "package name"07:51
judgen_rince_ ubontu is just a bot. and its tells you to search for your query at its homepage07:51
judgenbsically07:51
DaSkreechUzzaDead: No07:51
Lunar_Ravengosh i love kubuntu now07:52
UzzaDeadis it advisable to enable it anyway or will it just download garbage i'll never need?07:52
DaSkreechUzzaDead: Source enables you to apt-get install source package07:52
Lunar_Ravenso much more light weight than suse :O07:52
UzzaDeadah..07:52
UzzaDeadthanks DaSkreech07:52
DaSkreechThen you can have the source code to print out and paper your walls :)07:52
_rince_ah07:52
UzzaDeadand make my e-penis look bigger?07:52
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judgenLunar_Raven did you do a full install or like me an server install07:52
DaSkreechExactly07:52
UzzaDeadi can PRETEND i know what it all means :)07:52
UzzaDeadcheers mate!07:53
HobbseeUzzaDead: that's unnecessary.07:53
DaSkreechIt may come in useful if you are going to compile a program that does not exist in the ubuntu or Debian repos07:53
UzzaDeadsorry Hobbsee :(07:53
judgeni prefer the server install, then i can add what ever packages i need later on.. i dont need the default kde games and silly sound themes...07:53
UzzaDead!language07:53
Lunar_RavenI did a full install07:53
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.07:53
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Lunar_Ravenactually, i dont remember being asked07:53
DaSkreechOh about this server vs Desktop CDs07:53
Lunar_Ravenit didnt come with games or anything, though07:53
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Lunar_Ravenheh07:53
DaSkreechcan the server CD install a desktop by default?07:53
Lunar_RavenI used the alternative install cd07:53
Lunar_Raven:P07:53
Lunar_Raveni guess that is the server cd07:54
DaSkreechor do I  HAVE to do server then apt-get install xbuntu-desktop?07:54
DaSkreechLunar_Raven: Right you got a desktop on first install?07:54
judgenLunar_Raven did you get DE by default?07:54
HobbseeDaSkreech: a server cd?07:54
Lunar_RavenYeah it came with KDE.07:54
Lunar_Ravenodd i dont remember07:54
DaSkreechHobbsee: yeah the download servers have desktop cds07:54
Lunar_Ravenhaha07:54
DaSkreech then alternative or server CDs07:54
judgenthen it was not server install..07:54
Hobbseemmm okay07:54
Lunar_Ravenah07:54
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=== Hobbsee didnt know there were separate server cds
judgenserver install is cli only07:55
Lunar_Ravenfull install isn't very bloated though07:55
Lunar_Ravenso i wasnt sure07:55
Lunar_Ravenheh07:55
judgenHobbsee there isnt, but if you specity in the boot options in the install -server then you get only the base stuff for ubuntu07:55
judgenno de no x07:55
Hobbseejudgen: i realise that - i didnt think there was suddenly an extra cd created, without any annoucements07:56
judgenbut you can add through apt everything you need07:56
Lunar_Ravenyeah07:56
Lunar_Ravenapt is great07:56
Lunar_Ravendeb seems to be way faster than rpm o.o07:56
judgenapt is the best, except for some minor issues i have with it07:56
UzzaDeadjudgen, what do you recommend apt-get or aptitude?07:56
judgenLunar_Raven ever been in rpm dependencies hell?07:56
Lunar_Ravenyes07:56
Lunar_Ravenmany times07:56
DaSkreech_rince_: Nope still didn't work07:57
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Lunar_Ravenlol.07:57
Lunar_Ravenit sucks07:57
judgenUzzaDead aptitide is just a frontend for apt07:57
UzzaDeadwell which is better to use :)07:57
_rince_strange, worked like a charme for me07:57
DaSkreechThats what I keep hearing :(07:57
UzzaDeadi was told aptitude remembers things07:57
UzzaDeadwhile apt-get doesnt07:57
judgenUzzaDead remembers, how do you mean?07:57
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_rince_but i compiled it by hand before i found that link07:57
UzzaDeadjudgen, im not sure..07:58
_rince_maybe something remained07:58
DaSkreech_rince_: but it worked?07:58
UzzaDeadDaSkreech, why for the love of god?!07:58
Lunar_RavenI like adept, for a gui07:58
UzzaDead!easysource07:58
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:58
judgenhehe im not an amarok person, im more for xmms (yes i know its outdated but still)07:58
DaSkreechTo get brainz07:58
DaSkreechBrrrraaiiinnzzz07:58
UzzaDeadwhats that? lol07:58
Lunar_Raveni couldnt live without amarok07:58
_rince_yes07:58
Lunar_Raveni'd diee07:58
judgenLunar_Raven i dont use graphical apt...07:58
Lunar_RavenI use both.  Sometimes when i'm not sure of the package name i'll look through the graphical07:59
judgenLunar_Raven what is the best feature of amarok that you use that isnt available in xmms?07:59
Lunar_Ravenfor quick install apt-get07:59
Lunar_Raven:P07:59
HobbseeLunar_Raven: apt-cache search07:59
judgenHobbsee exactly07:59
DaSkreechaptitude search :)07:59
DaSkreechapt == boss of all07:59
judgenafter usin cli apt for a while, you want it no other way =)07:59
Lunar_RavenI just like amaroks gui interface way better.  And the way it handles your collection07:59
DaSkreechBut adept allows pretty things like tags :)07:59
Lunar_Ravenand thank you robbs08:00
Lunar_Raven:)08:00
Lunar_Ravenhobbs even08:00
DaSkreechI just got tags teh other day and I love them08:00
HobbseeDaSkreech: aptitude's quite good as well, sometimes...08:00
HobbseeLunar_Raven: hobbsee, even?08:00
Lunar_Raventhat too08:00
Lunar_Ravenhaha ;)08:00
judgenLunar_Raven i get mental on the fact that i dont rip my cds with tags. I only get "no title" in many players08:00
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judgeni guess thay have fixed that in newer amaroks08:00
judgenbut i think that if i want they should only display the filename08:01
Lunar_Ravenyes, you can also switch your playlist to show by filename instead of tags08:01
judgennice, maybe i should go ahead and try amarok again, last time was 0.9.3 i think08:01
Lunar_Ravenyes, it's WAY more mature now.  Back then it was really buggy08:01
judgeni prefer all my music to be tag-less and have concistant filenames08:01
UzzaDeadjudgen, i used amaroK just today and i think its great08:02
Lunar_RavenI do the same actually08:02
judgenits an thing i have from when i used beos and its marvelous filesystem08:02
UzzaDeadi think xmms is great too but amaroK is very useful08:02
UzzaDeadkevin, you were the cvscedega dude right?08:02
Lunar_Ravenagreed08:02
DaSkreechjudgen: The new amarok You can do that :)08:02
Lunar_Raventhe new amarok can do everything08:03
Lunar_Ravenlol08:03
DaSkreechYou can say name all my music on the file system based on teh tags08:03
kevinUzzaDead: Yah08:03
DaSkreech then strip the tags :-)08:03
Lunar_Ravenit's magical08:03
Lunar_Raveno.O08:03
UzzaDead:D08:03
UzzaDeadi got it working perfectly, well as perfect as cvs is :D08:03
DaSkreechLunar_Raven: Except it won't feed me brainz08:03
Lunar_Ravenlol08:03
UzzaDeadDaSkreech, save the brainzzzz for the extreme n00bs here08:03
UzzaDeadi already got issued mine :D08:03
UzzaDeadi now have xorg.conf burned into my retinas too08:04
UzzaDeadgood times!08:04
DaSkreechWell they don't have MP3 neither does my Brainz so it doesn't help them08:04
DaSkreech or me :(08:04
judgenhttp://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cvscedega08:04
UzzaDeadi broke sources.lst08:04
UzzaDeadagain..08:04
DaSkreechMan this is the main reason I'm using Kubuntu and it doesn't work08:04
Lunar_RavenI do that alot08:04
Lunar_Raven@uzza08:04
UzzaDeadDaSkreech, whats the problem?08:04
DaSkreechI can't get MP3 brainz08:04
UzzaDeadLunar_Raven, fix it? :P08:04
Lunar_Ravenwhat doesnt work?08:04
Lunar_Ravenlol yes08:05
Lunar_Raveni used the source-o-matic thing08:05
Lunar_Ravenquite useful08:05
UzzaDeadadept thinks i have no repositories...08:05
UzzaDeadwhich makes me angry08:05
Lunar_Ravendid you click 'fetch updates'08:05
UzzaDeadno08:05
Lunar_Raventry that08:05
UzzaDeadheres what i did08:05
Lunar_Raven:P08:05
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DaSkreechHobbsee: Shouldn't adept respect aptitude?08:05
UzzaDeadi generated a sources.lst via source-o-matic saved it to my desktop and did sudo mv sources.lst /etc/apt/sources.lst08:06
HobbseeDaSkreech: explain more?08:06
HobbseeUzzaDead: yes, and?08:06
defrysk UzzaDead its sources.list08:06
defrysknot lst08:06
DaSkreechHobbsee: If I hold or lock a package in aptitude shouldn't adept stop trying to update them08:06
UzzaDeadit is?08:06
defryskyes08:06
defryskdodo08:06
UzzaDeadshould i feel stupid about now?08:06
Hobbseeah, that's it08:06
defrysk;p08:06
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defryskvery very stupig08:06
HobbseeUzzaDead: no, not unless you commented out all of the stuff in your sources list08:06
defryskd08:06
judgenUzzaDead i always feel stupid, but that has nothing to do with linux =)08:07
UzzaDeadHobbsee, i wont tell you what i did to need a new sources.list :D08:07
HobbseeUzzaDead: commented it all out?08:07
UzzaDeadnah..08:07
UzzaDeadi nuked it08:07
judgenUzzaDead why dont you just write a new sources.lits08:07
HobbseeDaSkreech: i'm not sur ehow adept is coded08:07
UzzaDeadi just did judgen08:07
HobbseeUzzaDead: hehe.  oops :P08:07
judgenok08:07
Hobbseei dont hear of many people having done that08:08
=== defrysk has no clue how to nuke a sources.list
DaSkreechHobbsee: So when aptitude holds a file it's not part of the apt system?08:08
UzzaDeadits a noob thing Hobbsee :D08:08
DaSkreechdefrysk: Name it sources.lst! :-)08:08
Hobbseedefrysk: or just rm it08:08
defryskDaSkreech, guess so ;p08:08
UzzaDeadi rm'd it lol08:08
HobbseeDaSkreech: i'm not sure...if that's all called by dpkg or what...08:08
DaSkreechOk cool08:08
defryskHobbsee, what can I say08:08
UzzaDeadthink i'd just grab a fresh file off the dvd08:08
UzzaDeadwell that didnt go very well..08:09
UzzaDeadwhich led to me feeling stupid08:09
DaSkreech_rince_: So... purge  me Amarok?08:09
Sewagethe only thing on my desktop is the DVD icon08:09
kevinUzza...meaning you could install a game i.e. total annihilation? :P08:09
Hobbseehehe08:09
defryskthe level of tinkering baffles me sometimes here08:09
UzzaDeadkevin, bloodrayne08:09
Hobbseedefrysk: dont worry, i've still done stupider...08:09
kevinhm...08:09
UzzaDeadit crapped itself but :D08:09
kevinany special steps?08:09
UzzaDeadnone08:09
kevin:(08:10
kevin!openal08:10
ubotukevin: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:10
kevinmeh...08:10
kevinthis game wants openAL what's that?08:10
Lunar_Ravenwhere is the qt directory located?08:10
SewageopenGL08:10
Lunar_Ravenusr?08:10
DaSkreechkevin: A open Audio language run by Creative08:11
Sewageoh08:11
UzzaDeadkevin, what are you trying to install?08:11
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kevinYah but what package? libopenal0 or libopenal0a?08:11
kevinUzzaDead: A linux game called warzone08:12
UzzaDeadand you need cedega to do so?08:12
DaSkreechOne then the other? :)08:12
kevinNo i'm compiling it08:12
UzzaDeadoh08:12
UzzaDeadDaSkreech, deb-src would indicated sources correct and it would be fine to comment them out as long as im not needing to compile from source?08:12
HobbseeUzzaDead: yep08:13
DaSkreechRight08:13
ppdgood morning08:13
UzzaDeadthanks :)08:13
Lunar_Ravenhmm this program keeps saying it can't find kde.  I though I installed the headers, I installed qt3-dev.  Is there a package im missing?08:13
Lunar_Ravenand i just fixed it08:13
ppddo you know a gui to record tv from an analogue tv card for kde? (or a frontend)08:13
Lunar_Ravenignore that comment :D08:13
qor[kubuntu] kevin: how is it?08:13
HobbseeLunar_Raven: try installing kde-devel, if your'e going to be doing a lot of compiling08:14
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defryskHobbsee, already got a working ktorrent made ?08:15
Hobbseedefrysk: define working08:15
Hobbseeit tries to overwrite another file, and i've not touched it since then.08:15
defryskHobbsee, intallable08:15
defrysk+s08:15
Hobbseewell, you can use force overwrite on it..08:15
defryskI see08:15
defryskno i use the one of the ubuntuforum works fine here ;p08:16
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=== DaSkreech waits for one more song to go then purges the Amarok
UzzaDeadim getting the hang of this kubuntu thing and liking it more than windows for day to day stuff more and more :D08:17
Hobbseetrue08:17
AshexI keep getting a message that an application is using the package system database08:17
AshexBut there aren't any package managers running08:17
UzzaDeadthe community is sure as hell alot more friendly and helpful08:17
HobbseeAshex: got synaptic/adept/another window of apt-get running?08:18
Ashexall I have open right now is Konversation, Firefox, and Amarok08:18
defryskhow sure is hell I wonder ?08:18
AshexHobbsee: nope, I've checked, many times08:18
UzzaDeadAshex, check for processes that havent terminated if you dont have any adept etc.. running08:18
Lunar_Ravenme too, uzza.08:18
HobbseeAshex: hmmm..odd...want to pastebin the exact error?08:18
Lunar_RavenAlthough, i was use to SuSE not windows08:18
UzzaDeaddefrysk, as sure as i'll break your leg :)08:18
AshexUzzaDead: I've checked08:18
Lunar_Ravenbut ubuntu is cool :P08:18
Hobbseeyou can just remove the lock, if you're sure nothing else is open :P08:18
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AshexWoah08:19
AshexI just opened terminal to generate an actual error for you guys08:19
HobbseeAshex: what'd you get?08:19
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UzzaDeadthats because you love us08:19
Ashexsince I got the error from adept_updater08:19
AshexE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.08:19
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UzzaDeadthat thing makes me mad08:20
Ashexone sec while I do what it tells me to do08:20
HobbseeAshex: that's probably why :)08:20
DaSkreechAshex: Yeah I got that too :)08:20
=== DaSkreech purges!!!
UzzaDeaddid you give it a black eye?08:20
crimsunjeez, no wonder Hobbsee's so violent; everyone's violent here :p08:21
AshexWoo08:21
Hobbseehehe08:21
Ashexit works08:21
UzzaDeadthey learn from me probably08:21
Hobbseecrimsun: i have to be violent :P08:21
AshexI don't use command line apt very often, I like using a gui08:21
=== UzzaDead punches Hobbsee in the ear
DaSkreechI've only seen you violent once08:21
=== Hobbsee bans UzzaDead
=== UzzaDead begs for mercy
HobbseeDaSkreech: ah yes, i'm more violent on -motu08:21
SewageI dont know why most Linux users think it's easier to type out 5 words than it is to click an icon08:21
HobbseeUzzaDead: dont hit me then.  it's mean :P08:21
DaSkreechSewage: It is in the long run08:22
=== UzzaDead punches Hobbsee in the other ear :P
HobbseeSewage: because the icon moves, it takes a while to start, etc08:22
defryskSewage, cos it is easyer perhaps ?08:22
DaSkreechSewage: Course you can always make an icon for the 5 letter word08:22
=== Hobbsee could attack UzzaDead, but decidse not to, yet
Ashexsay...what's the command for apt to reinstall a package?08:22
=== UzzaDead offers Hobbsee a hug
SewageI guess I have to get used to it08:22
HobbseeSewage: and you can set aliases, you know08:22
=== Hobbsee hugs UzzaDead
Ashexanyone? anyone at all?08:23
Sewageno, I dont know about aliases08:23
=== UzzaDead scurries back to the corner while updating kde
HobbseeAshex: sudo aptitude reinstall packagename08:23
UzzaDeadi like this community :D08:23
defryskSewage, example blanking a rewritable cdrom = cdrdao blank can you do that faster with a gui ?08:23
Sewageno08:23
AshexHa, it's all about aptitude, isn't it?08:23
UzzaDeadi can do it faster than gui and cli with my hammer :D08:23
Sewagealthough I never blank CDs08:23
defryskSewage, I rest my case ;)08:23
AshexI should get more sleep, that way I can think out my problem before asking something stupid like that08:23
HobbseeAshex: :P  see apt-get -h and aptitude -h08:23
UzzaDeadAshex, dont feel bad i've been asking stupid things for the past two or three days, ask anyone here08:24
HobbseeAshex: if you know more or less what you're looking for, man <packagename> or <packagename> -h usually works08:24
Hobbseemmm...sleep...08:24
=== DaSkreech laughs
AshexHeh08:24
=== Hobbsee curses the existance of meetings waking her up today.
UzzaDeadwhats this sleep thing you speak of?08:24
Ashexthanks, I'll look into it a little08:24
DaSkreech Amarok suggets I install Konqi08:24
Sewagebut most actions require typing in filenames, and thats a pain  "Hm.. ok, what comes next.. oh an Underscore.. NO, 2 underscores"08:24
defryskor just <packagename> with no options08:24
Ashexanyone familiar with proftpd?08:24
UzzaDeada female linux user?08:24
DaSkreechSewage: Tab is your friend08:24
=== UzzaDead looks confused
HobbseeUzzaDead: it's something that's disturbed when you get a phonecall from someone in another country08:25
Sewageyes, I need to start using Tab08:25
DaSkreechHobbsee: you should count how many times a day you get that reaction :)08:25
defryskSewage, tab is your friend08:25
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HobbseeSewage: words are generally two underscores, letters are one underscore08:25
HobbseeDaSkreech: which reaction?  oh08:25
HobbseeUzzaDead: yes.  they exist08:25
RandomDude15hey08:25
Sewageif a file name is longer than 2 letters, then clicking an icon was faster08:25
DaSkreechHobbsee: make a !woman command :-)08:26
Hobbsee!women08:26
RandomDude15how do I get java08:26
ubotuThe Ubuntu women project women and men hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.08:26
RandomDude15and08:26
HobbseeDaSkreech: already one there ^08:26
Sewagedo you always leave your terminal open08:26
RandomDude15flash 8?08:26
RandomDude15in firefox?08:26
UzzaDeadHobbsee, you still perplex me08:26
UzzaDeadlinux,woman,intelligent08:26
Hobbseehehe08:26
=== UzzaDead kernel panics
HobbseeUzzaDead: and a dev :P08:26
=== UzzaDead has a hardware failure
AshexOy08:26
=== UzzaDead never boots again
AshexI got this error while trying to reinstall the package: http://pastebin.com/76455808:26
DaSkreechOhright08:27
=== Hobbsee sudo shutdown now -r's UzzaDead
DaSkreech I still can't get there08:27
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UzzaDeadi think more women using computers is great08:27
DaSkreechUzzaDead: And she can ban your butt08:27
defryskshutdown -h now08:27
UzzaDeadand not just for email and random web surfing08:27
UzzaDeadDaSkreech, i fear!08:27
HobbseeAshex: ah yes, the broken java...08:27
Hobbsee!java08:27
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs08:27
UzzaDeadbroken java?08:27
DaSkreechWell there are more midage women in online gaming than any other category of human :)08:27
defryskjava on crack08:28
HobbseeUzzaDead: seems to be borked for some reason - not sure why08:28
defrysk= a broken java08:28
UzzaDeadwhat does it affect? amd64 or?08:28
D0M1N8Rk installed kubuntu and it never asked for a root password08:28
D0M1N8Rand sudo wants a password08:28
Hobbsee!root08:28
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:28
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UzzaDeadD0M1N8R, its your username's password08:28
D0M1N8Rack08:28
HymnToLifeJava is b0rk3n even when it "works" anyway :p08:28
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D0M1N8Rtried my user name password says incorrect but as pointed out above its disabled08:28
defryskjava is a resourceb0rk08:28
Ashexthere is no actual root in kubuntu08:29
HymnToLife!tell D0M1N8R about root08:29
Ashexsudo -i is your friend08:29
UzzaDeadwell wish me luck i just upgraded kde!08:30
UzzaDeadsee if i broke something again hehe08:30
DaSkreechHobbsee: can I find out which packages rely on a package?08:30
HobbseeDaSkreech: yes....08:31
DaSkreechCOol08:31
D0M1N8Rim having no luck killing X08:31
DaSkreechHow? :)08:31
defryskD0M1N8R, shoot08:31
Hobbseeapt-get/aptitude/dpkg -rdepends/--rdepends packagename08:31
DaSkreechNeat08:31
Hobbseeno, try apt-cache rdepends packagename08:32
Hobbseethat's it, according to this help file08:32
DaSkreech:-)08:32
DaSkreechIf I don't put in a gpg key for a package what is the result?08:32
HobbseeDaSkreech: a warning?08:33
DaSkreechor for a repo to be more precise08:33
Hobbseewhich repo?08:33
DaSkreechWell I'm not getting one :(08:33
Hobbseenot all repos require gpg keys08:33
DaSkreechI'm thinking that it's not seeing the alternate repo08:33
HymnToLifeIn some cases you need to download/add the key manualy08:33
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DaSkreechI'm assuming that tunepimp is in the main08:34
HymnToLife!info tunepimp08:34
DaSkreechI'm going to disable allll my sources except that one08:34
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DaSkreechWheee :)08:34
DaSkreech adept crashed08:34
DaSkreechok and so did katapult08:36
DaSkreech:-(08:36
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noaXesshi all.08:39
Hobbseehey noaXess08:40
orient2000Does anybody know what program is good for preview/show pictures in a folder?08:40
Hobbseeorient2000: konq does it, gwenview is also pretty good08:40
noaXessha.. got my ati mobile radeon x700 running... :)08:40
AshexGrr08:40
orient2000thanks08:40
AshexI can't get rid of this damn Java thing08:40
noaXess!flash08:40
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:40
noaXess!flashplayer08:40
ubotunoaXess: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:40
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AshexI can't get rid of this damn thing http://pastebin.com/76455808:40
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UzzaDeadi didnt break anything!08:40
DaSkreech_rince_: Arrrrrgh!!!!!!!08:41
DaSkreechUzzaDead: Shoot me08:41
=== UzzaDead pulls out his pistol
UzzaDeadwhy?08:42
DaSkreechI had the site mispelled in the sources.list all this time08:42
UzzaDeadi nuked my entire sources.list then when i got a new one i named it sources.lst08:42
UzzaDeadim still top :D08:42
=== UzzaDead puts the pistol to DaSkreech's forehead, any last words?
DaSkreechI regret using windows!08:43
HobbseeDaSkreech: haha08:43
=== UzzaDead pulls the trigger and smiles as it just goes "click!"
DaSkreechUzzaDead: Wrong!!!08:43
DaSkreechIt should go Klik!08:44
UzzaDeadno! click!08:44
UzzaDeadcli ck08:44
UzzaDeadcli=command line interface08:44
DaSkreechCalvin Klien Command Line?08:44
UzzaDeadshhh :D08:44
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DaSkreechA woman using LInux?08:44
UzzaDeadi got banned in #kubuntu-offtopic for that sort of talk08:44
UzzaDeadlol no DaSkreech im a guy just being strange08:45
DaSkreechand not shopping at Thinkgeek?08:45
=== DaSkreech knows :)
UzzaDeador do you ;)08:45
DaSkreechNo HTTPanties for you!08:45
UzzaDeadnoes!08:45
UzzaDeadim about to ask something thats probably stupid but how do i edit what services run at boot?08:45
UzzaDeadi dont use bluetooth nor cups08:45
TheHighChildlol UzzaDead08:45
=== UzzaDead apt-get installs bat TheHighChild
UzzaDead:D08:46
DaSkreechHTTPanties are the greatest :)08:46
TheHighChildUnder system, there should be something called boot manager08:46
TheHighChildHow do I come back from away?08:47
UzzaDeadthat would be a negative TheHighChild08:47
UzzaDeador do you mean system settings?08:47
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DaSkreechword: Word to your mother08:47
DaSkreechnikkiana: Hi! :)08:47
wordI'm also kevin btw...i'm trying on this comp now08:48
TheHighChildno, Automatix must have installed it08:48
HobbseeUzzaDead: DaSkreech.  is that necessary?08:48
UzzaDeadis what necessary?08:48
DaSkreechHe started it!08:48
Hobbseethe talk about the women - this is supposed to be on topic08:48
=== UzzaDead whacks DaSkreech
DaSkreechI was already on teh ThinkGeek tangent08:48
UzzaDeadi already got banned from #kubuntu-offtopic so you cant send me there :(08:48
HobbseeUzzaDead: you going to mess up in k-o again?08:49
DaSkreechNo one is saying anything :-) I'll go back to call center mode once a problem comes in :)08:49
UzzaDeadhonestly Hobbsee i dont know what i did wrong08:49
=== DaSkreech laughs how Hobbsee says nothing about UzzaDead shooting me :)
UzzaDeada group of us were called trolls banned and removed08:49
DaSkreechThat's ferpectly alright08:49
defryskDaSkreech, due to certain conversations people stop talking sometimes08:49
HobbseeDaSkreech: i was hoping that the two of you would be beyond it.08:49
DaSkreechNormally I am but it's 2:0008:50
UzzaDeadim normally good :)08:50
defryskDaSkreech, its 8.50 am here08:50
DaSkreechAnd I'm trying to stay awake long enought to get brainz :-)08:50
UzzaDeadi just get a bit... off sometimes08:50
HobbseeUzzaDead: now behave, or i'll reban you.08:50
DaSkreechIt's 2:00 am here08:50
UzzaDeadi didnt misbehave earlier tho but ok :D08:50
DaSkreechand I'm reinstalling kubuntu-desktop08:50
Hobbsee:)08:50
UzzaDeadcheers mate!08:50
DaSkreechfor a mizzing 'z' :-(08:50
sampanwould any of the gurus have any idea why printing most things works fine, but printing PDF files is a no-go?  kpdf, acroread, konq, etc., no joy printing pdfs08:50
UzzaDeadDaSkreech, im still not seeing that boot thing you spoke of08:51
UzzaDead!katapult08:51
ubotukatapult is, like, totally, an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.08:51
DaSkreechI said something?08:52
UzzaDeadoh my mistake it was TheHighChild08:52
UzzaDeadi still need to figure out how to edit what services run at boot08:52
UzzaDeadim not rich enough for bluetooth!08:52
DaSkreechI have to be the laziest person ever08:53
DaSkreechI won't run a GUI program if it's not in katapult08:53
UzzaDeaddo you have a rubber keyboard and have someone spray you off with a hose while still typing away at your command line?08:53
DaSkreechHobbsee: have you been follown\ing SOC?08:53
UzzaDeadand call that a shower :)08:53
HobbseeDaSkreech: sort of, nto really, why?08:53
UzzaDeadwhats SOC?08:53
DaSkreechWorse I open the window when it rains08:54
HobbseeUzzaDead: summer of code08:54
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UzzaDeadlast coding i did was in qbasic08:54
DaSkreechHobbsee: They seem to have slated katapult to take over from Alt=Tab08:54
DaSkreechAlt+Tab08:54
UzzaDeadwindows running on a mac which now has intel processors, anything is possible DaSkreech08:54
HobbseeDaSkreech: surely not08:54
UzzaDeadi want a mac that OS and hardware is sexy @_@08:55
UzzaDeadbetter than my ugly old beige macs...08:55
UzzaDeadi'm gonna go browse the wiki for some answers and stop annoying the channel :)08:55
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MrBallZhi, i installed dapper, and my atheros minipci card was recoginized out of the box, then I changed to the 686 kernel, and now the module isnt loaded, how do i fix this ?08:56
defryskUzzaDead, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8949108:57
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DaSkreechHobbsee: Want me to find the write up?08:57
DaSkreechHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!08:57
DaSkreechBRAINZ!!!!08:57
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HobbseeDaSkreech: yeah08:57
sancho21hai all08:57
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DaSkreechHobbsee, _rince_: it works now I'm a very happy camper08:58
DaSkreechCourse the means no work for me for the next two weeks :)08:58
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Hobbsee:)08:58
UzzaDeadthanks defrysk08:58
DaSkreechsancho21: Hi08:59
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DaSkreechHobbsee: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE%20Google%20SoC%202006%20ideas#id29734109:00
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UzzaDeadmdadm pertains to RAID and the like correct?09:01
linuxbambihi all09:01
linuxbambii have a question09:01
UzzaDeadwe may have an answer :)09:01
sampanjust one question?09:01
HobbseeDaSkreech: i dont think that alt+tab will be completely replaced09:02
UzzaDeadone question leads to another its a given :)09:02
DaSkreechBetter not be09:02
UzzaDeadHobbsee, mdadm is RAID and the like isnt it?09:02
Hobbseeno idea09:02
DaSkreechThere is a Kphysics as well by Zack that I can't find any write up about09:02
DaSkreech And Amarok is supposed to get DAAP :-)09:02
HobbseeDaSkreech: i doubt it'll be a problem09:03
DaSkreechThe amarok?09:03
DaSkreechOr the Physics?09:03
linuxbambii am connected via wlan, and i use ndiswrapper. everything works fine, but the os forgets my iwconfig settings so i always have to do "modprobe ndiswrapper, iwoncfig wlan0 ...., dhchlient wlan0" - is there a way to let all this beeing done automaticley?09:03
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DaSkreechisn't SIGHUP supposed to restart a process?09:04
Ashexcrap in a hat09:04
Ashexmy package manager system is broken09:04
Ashexall thanks to java09:04
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AshexI can't do anything because of this error http://pastebin.com/76455809:05
Ashexit's a broken package09:05
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AshexI just tried to do a dpkg --purge on it09:06
DaSkreechHobbsee: Oh they have Tabs for Kwin09:06
Ashexhttp://pastebin.com/76458709:06
HobbseeDaSkreech: nice :)09:06
AshexI can't reinstall it09:07
Ashexand I can't purge it because I can't reinstall it09:07
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Ashexand I can't install or remove packages because of this package09:07
HobbseeAshex: try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin09:07
AshexI already did09:07
AshexI get that first error09:07
Hobbseeyou tried reinstall, i think09:07
AshexI tried that one too, same result09:07
noiesmosudo apt-get -f install09:07
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Ashextried that one too09:08
defryskfix broken packages in sunaptic might do the trick09:08
noiesmoapt-get install --fix-missing09:08
defrysksynaptic09:08
Ashexthis was with apt-get install http://pastebin.com/76459209:08
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DaSkreechSo once I stop kubuntu from Krashing I'll be the Biggest Pimp :)09:09
Alpha1soooo, where can I find more info wrt installing the nvidia drivers on a fresh 6.06 kubuntu install?09:09
defryskAshex, try the fix proken packages option in synaptic09:09
DaSkreechAnyone started playing with KDE4?09:09
AshexI can't09:09
defryskbroken*09:09
AshexI can't open any package manager apps09:09
Ashexthey just don't open09:09
defrysksudo dpkg-reconfigure -a09:10
defryskright ?09:10
defryskor not ?09:10
defryskand then try to open09:10
Sewagehow do you hide the left tab in Konqueror.  not F909:10
AshexHa09:10
Ashexyou're mean09:10
Ashexthat's going to take forever09:10
robin!mp309:10
ubotusomebody said mp3 was a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:10
DaSkreechSewage: You press F909:11
SewageNO09:11
linuxbambito listen to mp3s, you need libxine-extracodecs package09:11
Sewagejust the left part09:11
linuxbambiits in multiverse09:11
DaSkreechSewage: Yeah It works great here09:11
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Sewagethat closes the whole left pane09:11
SewageI only want to close the TAB STRIB09:11
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SewageI only want to close the TAB STRIP09:11
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Sewageon the left09:11
DaSkreechAt the top09:11
Alpha1!nvidia09:11
ubotunvidia is probably Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:11
defryskSewage, of konqueror ?09:11
Sewageyes09:12
defrysksorry mate09:12
Sewagewhat09:12
DaSkreechSewage: you mean the tab strip at the top or the navigation panel?09:12
Sewageon the left09:12
DaSkreechok09:13
defryskSewage, go to web browser behaviour09:13
DaSkreechYou have a set of tabs on the left09:13
DaSkreechthen an info pane09:13
DaSkreech then teh main window09:13
defryskand tic the hide the tab bar blah09:13
DaSkreech what do you want to get rid of?09:13
DaSkreech the tabs?09:13
defryskSewage, got that ?09:13
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Sewagesorry, Im back09:14
DaSkreechdefrysk: I missed it where do you start?09:14
Sewageok09:14
Sewagethere09:14
defryskSewage, setting > configure > web behaviour icon09:14
Sewageoh09:14
Sewageright09:15
defryskgo to tabbed browsing and tic the blah blah09:15
defryskhide tab bar that is09:15
Sewageisnt that for tabbed browsing09:15
Sewagethe top tabs09:15
Sewageyou know that strip on the left09:16
defryskSewage, just tic it and check ok ?09:16
Sewagethat has Home Folder, Amarok09:16
Sewageok, I'll try it09:16
Sewageoh wait09:16
Sewageit's already checked09:16
defryskall that talk back drives me nuts09:16
Sewageso that cant be it09:16
defryskboth checked ?09:16
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SewageAre you talking about the Tabbed Browsing area?09:16
defryskyes09:17
Sewagethats not it09:17
SewageIm talking about the strip on the left side , that has Home Folder, Amarok, Root Folder Metabar09:17
SewageDo you know what Im talking about09:17
DaSkreechYes09:18
DaSkreechWhat do you want it to do?09:18
DaSkreechDisappear?09:18
DaSkreechBut leave the info?09:18
defryskSeveas, I have no strip there09:18
DaSkreechdefrysk:Press F909:18
Sewagetheres 2 parts to the left F9 thing09:18
SewageTheres the list of folders, and theres the ICON TABS on the left09:18
Sewagedont you have that?09:18
Sewageomg09:19
defryskyes then I have it09:19
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defryskpress it again and its gone09:19
DaSkreechYup09:19
UzzaDeadi need to quit breaking things09:19
DaSkreechHe wants to have the Info pane and not the tabs09:19
SewageF9 CLOSES the whole left side09:19
DaSkreech which makes no sense to me09:19
DaSkreechBut I guess he can do it ....09:19
Sewageremember Windows Explorer?09:20
Sewageyou have a left and right pane09:20
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Sewagenm09:20
defryskrightklick the tab and close it09:20
SewageI'll ask in KDE09:20
defrysktoo easy ;p09:20
Sewagethat doesnt work09:20
SewageTHAT CLOSESE THE WHOLE LEFT SIDE09:20
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defryskhehe lol09:20
bubblenutHi, in a moment of monumental stupidity I deleted all my /boot/initrd images, anyone know where I can get replacements or fix this this?09:20
defryskwho cares I dont use it anyway ;p09:21
DaSkreechIt crashed konqi for me :)09:21
DaSkreechSewage: Just asking why does it bug you that much?09:21
UzzaDeadbubblenut, adept should allow you to reinstall them09:21
sampanright clicking the left pane tabs brings up a context menu -- hit "configure" and uncheck "show tabs"09:22
DaSkreechdefrysk: Can You explain how the Metabar works?09:22
UzzaDeadand i cant get this blasted pcmcia-utils garbage to stop loading09:22
sampanthose tabs are gone for me, but now i can't get them back09:22
defryskDaSkreech, nope , never used it09:22
UzzaDeadlast i checked my desktop didnt have pcmcia09:22
DaSkreechit always gives me the Meta for the folder never for a file09:22
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defryskfor fil managing09:23
defryskfile09:23
defryskor the cli09:23
sampansewage  if you right click on the very edge of those tabs, there's a configure navigation panel item in a context menu, then a submenu opens and you can uncheck the "show tabs"09:23
bubblenutUssaDead: Yea, thanks, I've just started re-installing. Phew, I thought my quick acting lack of thought had caught up with me then ;)09:24
DaSkreechdefrysk: Never mind figured it out09:24
DaSkreechdefrysk: It rocks!!!09:24
defryskwhat rocks ?09:25
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Sewagesampan, ok, I'll try that09:29
UzzaDeadi wonder why 1600x1200 in linux is usable but its not in windows09:29
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sampansewage  it worked for me (if i understand what you want correctly, that is): to see the folder tree, but not the little graphic buttons for root/services/etc09:30
Sewagesampan, right09:30
rafhello all,  could someone help me on customize a kubuntu installation CD?09:30
SewageI cant get it.  the area must be 1 pixel wide that you have to click09:31
sampansewage, hrmmmm  -- i just right-clicked anywhere on those tabs i think09:31
Sewageso I ahve to remove each one first?09:32
sampanthen a context-menu pops up, and at the bottom there's "configure navigation panel"09:32
Sewagecry09:32
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Sewageall I have is where the bar moves from the left side to the other side09:33
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sampan:(  dunno what's wonky, but on mine it's simple as pie: right-click --> configure nav panel --> (uncheck) show tabs ... and it's done :X09:34
TheHighChildAnyone know if there is a command to see all available commands?09:34
Sewageok09:35
TheHighChildIn IRC, sorry09:35
Sewagei dont have that option09:35
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kanibalTheHighChild try help09:35
TheHighChildthanks kanibal09:37
sampansewage, actually you might be right ... you might have to remove them individually, the 'show tabs' option is 'show tabs left', so it was just moving them to the right and i didn't even notice they had just jumped :X09:37
Sewageok09:38
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sampandoh09:38
Sewagelol09:38
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sampani've never used that nav panel, but ... i -should- ... very convenient09:40
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Sewageim used to Windows Explorer09:40
kanibalanyone can tell me, why eth0 doesn't have address?09:40
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kanibalonly MAC09:41
DaSkreechsampan: what version of KDE are you using?09:43
DaSkreechSewage: But this is much cooler :-(09:43
sampandaskreech  whatever shipped with dapper09:43
DaSkreechSewage: Have you seen the metabar?09:43
Sewageyes09:43
sampanso i guess it's 3.5.209:44
SewageI havent really used it though09:44
sampani guess i just never noticed that the nav panel has so much in it: bookmarks, history, filesystem, system settings, services -- it's one-stop-shopping09:44
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sampanit even has an amarok tab09:45
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chavosampan you can even make your own with html09:45
chavometabar is simply html and css09:46
sampanvery cool -- but that would require me to actually know html !!09:46
Adam_eMhi09:46
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chavotrue09:46
DaSkreechSewage: I'm really digging it09:46
Sewagei messed up my f909:46
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DaSkreechSewage: As an Aside I just embedded Digg.com into the sidebar  :-)09:46
Sewagenow all i can see are the icons09:47
=== UzzaDead eats DaSkreech's soul
DaSkreechSorry sold it already09:47
UzzaDeadto me :)09:47
=== UzzaDead waves deed around
Adam_eManyone saw PCLOS's synaptic retheming ? I wonder how to do something like that in my kubuntu09:47
DaSkreechSewage: there is a little bar right beside them09:47
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DaSkreechresize it so you can see the info bar09:48
Sewageit wont resize09:48
TheHighChildDoes anyone use dynamic dns?09:48
Sewageoh09:48
Sewageits back09:48
TheHighChildnot banned yet UzzaDead? lol09:48
UzzaDeadsurprisingly no09:49
UzzaDeadi gave Hobbsee a hug, that might have done the trick09:49
UzzaDeadi hope so i like you guys :D09:49
=== Hobbsee is lazy.
UzzaDeadwho would want to ban me :)09:50
UzzaDeadim innocent,sweet,amusing09:50
UzzaDeadand helpful!09:50
=== UzzaDead tacks delirious onto that
defryskUzzaDead, how insightfull09:50
UzzaDeadhopefully i can get wireless going on my laptop tonite09:51
defryskwithout getting banned you mean ?09:51
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UzzaDeadthat would be a plus09:51
defrysklol09:51
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TheHighChildI hate that hardware manufacturers don't provide linux drivers09:53
UzzaDeadme too09:53
UzzaDeadD-Link is especially nasty09:53
TheHighChildugh - I know!09:53
UzzaDeadi probably have as much chance as people in hell getting ice water getting this D-Link wifi card working09:53
Sewagetj9991, NASA uses Python...... so does the NYSE, Industrial Light and Magic, AstraZeneca, Honeywell, and many others.09:53
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Adam_eMbtw: i am going to buy a router, because my isp provides an internet access through an usb modem. Should i buy any router or will i have any problems in linux ?09:55
kanibal_anyone can tell me, why a eth0 doesn't have addrees?09:55
UzzaDeadAdam_eM, any router will work09:55
Sewagelinux was made for routers09:55
UzzaDeadkanibal, tried ifconfig?09:56
kanibal_only the MAC address!09:56
UzzaDeadyou need to use ifconfig to pull an address from your dhcp server!09:56
kanibal_yes ifconfig -a, and eth0 only show MAC address09:56
UzzaDeadim a noob so i dont know much09:56
kanibal_sorry09:57
Adam_eMi wouldnt rather do it, but i have to, since i will have big problems with installing the modem in kubuntu09:57
UzzaDeadone sec09:57
kanibal_ifconfig eth0 up ?????09:57
TheHighChildifup eth009:57
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Hobbsee:)09:57
DaSkreechGood morning09:57
UzzaDeadkanibal, try net-setup09:58
DaSkreechI'm going to bed09:58
DaSkreechI'll see you09:58
UzzaDeadkanibal, net-setup eth009:58
defryskin your dreams ?09:58
UzzaDeaddoh i think i just broke my laptops partitions09:59
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kanibal_net-setup eth0 doesn't do anything09:59
UzzaDeadany errors?09:59
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kanibal_nop,  ifup eth0, net-setup eth0!!! don't work10:01
amarokkercan anyone help me to install e-17?10:01
UzzaDeadkanibal, its ifconfig eth0 up10:01
amarokkeron dapper- :D10:01
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Steven_Mcan any help me with an apt-get question?10:01
kanibal_ ifconfig eth0 up, nop!!10:02
UzzaDeadsorry im stumped10:02
kanibal_i'm really confuse10:02
UzzaDeadSteven_M, what is it?10:02
Steven_Mtyping it out, standby10:03
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attax|thanahi folks10:04
UzzaDeadevening10:04
defryskmorning10:04
UzzaDeadi cant tell with this blasted military time :)10:04
UzzaDeadand i cant figure out how to change it either10:04
attax|thanai just upgraded to dapper and have a problem with my dual-screen setup10:05
attax|thanacan someone help me with this?10:05
Hobbseebye all...10:05
UzzaDeadbye Hobbsee10:05
UzzaDeadno clue attax|thana10:05
attax|thana:(10:05
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[miles] morning10:05
UzzaDeadcrap i blew up the installer10:06
[miles] I've downloaded the kubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso via a torrent10:06
[miles] but I want to know the md5, and I dont see it anywhere...10:06
[miles] anyone know where I can find the correct md5 please?10:06
UzzaDeadnope i looked10:06
UzzaDeadonly thing i could do was burn it and verify the cd via the boot menu10:06
UzzaDeaddvd^10:06
[miles] ah10:07
[miles] ok10:07
[miles] mmmm10:07
UzzaDeadit all worked out fine10:07
[miles] dodgy eh10:07
UzzaDeadno idea why an md5 doesnt exist tho10:07
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UzzaDeadlets blame the govt10:07
[miles] UzzaDead, could we compare md5's if possible please?10:08
UzzaDeadi dont have a dvd md510:09
[miles] I mean could you make one10:09
UzzaDeadah!10:09
UzzaDeadhow would i go about that?10:09
kanibal_i don't have eth0 address, here is my ifconfig -a( http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/764644) , anyone can help me?10:09
[miles] you still got the ISO to hand?10:09
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UzzaDeadon my windows desktop10:10
TheHighChildonly  found the cd md510:10
UzzaDeadbut i've got it mounted10:10
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[miles] UzzaDead, md5sum <filename.iso>10:10
UzzaDeadk10:10
[miles] oh, yours is 386 right?10:10
[miles] not x86-64?10:11
UzzaDeadaww crap..10:11
UzzaDeadno its 64 sorry :(10:11
[miles] JAJA10:11
[miles] no problem10:11
[miles] I'l verify the dvd like you said10:11
[miles] I'm sure that will be surficant10:11
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UzzaDeadyou shouldnt have any problem tho because as far as i know the torrent system checks and hashes as parts are downloaded10:11
[miles] It's taken me 4 days to download it off the torrent10:11
UzzaDead:-O10:12
[miles] nod10:12
UzzaDeadyou on a 56k?10:12
[miles] nope10:12
TheHighChildWhy not download the cd?10:12
[miles] I've got the cd10:12
[miles] as well10:12
UzzaDeadTheHighChild, what IS the purpose of the dvd anyway?10:12
TheHighChildlol10:12
[miles] this is the odd thing:10:12
kanibal_ i don't have eth0 address, here is my ifconfig -a( http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/764644) , anyone can help me?10:12
TheHighChildProvides more packages10:12
[miles] the livecd worked fine with my wireless pci card yeah10:12
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UzzaDeadsweet that makes me cooler than other people!10:12
[miles] but when I installed it10:12
[miles] the card could scan, but not connect...10:13
[miles] :-|10:13
[miles] odd10:13
cyyDo I need register a account for this IRC?10:13
UzzaDeadodd10:13
[miles] nod10:13
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[miles] any10:13
[miles] way10:13
TheHighChildoff hand it looks like it's trying to use IPV610:13
[miles] right10:13
vinboyhi10:13
[miles] I'll be back later once ive checked this dvd10:13
[miles] adios gringos10:13
[miles] :D10:14
TheHighChildnvm, I don't really know what I am talking about10:14
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UzzaDeadprobably more so than me TheHighChild :D10:14
vinboyi use KPDF to read my pdf, is there anything that I can use to (mark) where I should continue after i come back from my shower?10:14
UzzaDeadleave the cursor at the end of the last word you read and threaten anyone who touches it with GBH :)10:14
vinboybasically a marker saying the position I read upto until now10:14
sdolnackanyoen try to install Initing? i'm getting libc6 dependency errors10:15
vinboylol10:15
vinboyUzzaDead: wat is not very reliable is it :P10:15
vinboy*TAT10:15
UzzaDeadit is after you knock the first sucker to touch it in the floor :)10:15
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UzzaDeadbut seriously i have no idea10:15
vinboy:)10:16
vinboythx10:16
UzzaDeadnp10:16
TheHighChildvinboy look for the message in red10:16
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TheHighChildoff to bed, take care folks10:17
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vinboymessage in res?10:17
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UzzaDeadno idea10:18
UzzaDeadgot a removable marker? lol10:18
cyyOn My Kubuntu 6.06, these BMP files which are 16 bpp can't be displayed? how about your cases?10:18
UzzaDeaddraw on your screen :D10:18
vinboyhaha10:19
vinboygood one10:19
vinboybut costly10:19
UzzaDeadONLY if its a crt10:19
UzzaDeadnah you know one of those water soluble kids markers :)10:20
UzzaDeadlick your finger and wipe it off the crt10:20
UzzaDeadi have a feeling im gonna break something soon10:21
vinboy:D10:23
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attax|thanai just upgraded to dapper, my second screen remains blank after booting, went fine before the upgrade, same xorg.conf :(10:23
attax|thanacan someone help me?10:23
vinboythe guy at #kde doesn't know i'm talking about10:23
sdolnackanyone get xgl/compiz to work w/ Kubuntu?10:23
UzzaDeadsdolnack, yes10:23
vinboysdolnack:  not me10:23
UzzaDeadits satans spawn10:23
vinboyUzzaDead: U DID?10:23
UzzaDeadyes10:23
UzzaDeadavoid it!10:23
UzzaDeadit broke so much stuff i had to completely wipe my install and start over10:24
sdolnackuzzadead--i tried following the instructions on the wiki but they were for gnome10:24
sdolnackahhhhhhhh10:24
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sdolnackyes10:24
vinboyi tried the one on the ubuntu forum10:24
vinboyfor kde10:24
vinboybut didn't work at all10:24
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UzzaDeadi can get you guys a link if you really honestly want to try it10:24
sdolnackmy session started loading by default in xgl which slowed EVERYTHING down really bad10:24
sdolnacki ended up just removing the compiz and xgl packages10:25
vinboyic10:25
sdolnackso wha'ts this enormous fuss about if it's still so slow and unstable and buggy?10:25
UzzaDeadi guess if it works its great and pretty but if it doesnt...10:25
UzzaDeadmay god help you10:25
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sdolnacki mean, the cube-desktop thing looks really cool but it's not worth it ifyou can't run your machine10:25
sdolnackare we allowed to say "fucking" on here?10:25
robnot too muchhh10:25
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sdolnackok10:25
roberr dam kb10:26
sdolnackyeah, it was getting quite messy10:26
UzzaDeadsdolnack, i'd avoid it10:26
sdolnackyeah10:26
UzzaDeadthe language anyway10:26
robI so need to get some new batteries for it!10:26
UzzaDeadhttp://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=106710:26
sdolnackahh10:26
UzzaDeadif you REALLY want xgl10:26
sdolnacknow if only i could get initng working...10:26
UzzaDeadgo to that link10:26
sdolnacki just installed kubuntu yesterday and am using linux for the first time10:27
UzzaDeadi love it :D10:27
sdolnacki really really like it; i just need to find a solid replacement for foobar2k10:27
sdolnackhaha fo sho10:27
UzzaDeadfoobar2k=media player right?10:28
sdolnackyes10:28
UzzaDeadlooked at xmms or amaroK?10:28
sdolnacki just installed swiftfox--i can't believe how fast it is10:28
sdolnacki hear they're decent10:28
sdolnackhaven't tried them yet10:28
UzzaDeadi really like amaroK, xmms is more like winamp for windows10:28
UzzaDeadin fact it looks cloned10:28
sdolnackall my mp3's/oggs are on the windows parition--will there be any trouble accessing them all from media/sdax10:28
sdolnack?10:29
UzzaDeadshouldnt be, i do it :D10:29
sdolnackhah--I gave up winamp long ago10:29
sdolnackace10:29
UzzaDeadwhy?10:29
sdolnackdid i give up winamp?10:29
UzzaDeadyes10:29
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sdolnackbecause foobar2000 is, in my eyes, far superior10:29
UzzaDeadwinamp pawns you like the kids' xmas presents xmas even in harlem!10:29
sdolnackit's like linux and windows10:29
sdolnackwinamp is prettier and doens't boggle you with too many options10:30
UzzaDeadeven=eve^10:30
sdolnackfoobar you can do ANYTHING, so it can be daunting to those who dont' know how to use it.10:30
sdolnackit's also, highly, HIGHLY customizable10:30
UzzaDeadso winamp=for dummies and foobar=for the 13375?10:30
sdolnackhaha i'd say so10:30
sdolnackand it seems to take up less memory10:30
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UzzaDeadi like winamp on windows10:30
sdolnackthat's fine10:31
noaXesshow can i make a shortcut, eg. Win+E with my home folder?10:31
sdolnacki'm not saying it's bad, per se10:31
sdolnacki just prefer fb2k10:31
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sdolnacklike my Rio Karma :-)10:31
UzzaDeadbut then again im liking linux more and more for every day tasks over windows10:31
UzzaDeadso :)10:31
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UzzaDeadkanibal_, any luck?10:31
UzzaDeadi think i broke him..10:32
sdolnackhow long have you been using linux?10:32
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sdolnackhow's wine performance? i haven't tried it yet10:33
sdolnackand can i config this thing to not ask me for my password every time i load a program?10:33
visik7depending on the apps10:33
visik7mostly the same of windows10:33
visik7sometimes even better10:33
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UzzaDeadsdolnack, a few yeras now10:34
UzzaDeadon and off10:34
visik7sometimes wrost10:34
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Kabaldoes anyone know how to remove the dock-icon of Opera?10:34
sdolnackreally??10:34
sdolnackthey dont' slow down?10:34
visik7sdolnack: depend on the apps10:34
sdolnackyeah10:34
visik7dvdshrink works at the same speed for example10:35
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sdolnackis there a way to not input a password every time i open/do something?10:35
sdolnackit seems ridiculous10:35
visik7the password is asked every time you need admin privilege10:36
UzzaDeadit doesnt really bother me now10:36
sdolnackwell can i somehow circumvent this?10:36
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UzzaDeadsdolnack, couldnt tell ya10:38
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sdolnackjeez... everyone is obsessed with xgl10:39
sdolnackidon't get it--it's so slow10:39
visik7sdolnack: nullok_secure on /etc/pam.d/common-auth10:40
visik7but it definitly SUCKS10:40
sdolnackwhy?10:40
UzzaDeadxgl blows hard10:40
visik7set nullpassowords10:40
sdolnackwhy does it suck?10:40
visik7insecure by default10:40
UzzaDeadmakes you angry10:41
UzzaDeadand insecure10:41
sdolnackoh my!10:41
visik7if you install a service that relay on pam you will open the doors to the world10:41
sdolnackKubuntu Dapper is like the greatest thing ever10:41
sdolnackthis is so exciting10:41
UzzaDeadby the world he means malicious pieces of garbage with way too much time on their hands, no life and daddy didnt hug em10:41
Sewagetj9991, NASA uses Python...... so does the NYSE, Industrial Light and Magic, AstraZeneca, Honeywell, and many others.10:41
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visik7UzzaDead: that are more than someone can think10:42
UzzaDeadeh?10:42
UzzaDeadsdolnack, its like bending over to get the soap in a prison shower, dont do it10:42
visik7the ppl without a life are more than someone can think10:42
visik7sdolnack:btw you need to set nullok_secure and add the console which you preform login in /etc/securetty and set a null password10:43
sdolnackthis all sounds very unsafe10:43
UzzaDeadit is10:43
sdolnackaiight10:43
sdolnackwhatevs10:44
kanibal_UzzaDead> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 up10:44
sdolnackand this whole sudo thing10:44
kanibal_jaja10:44
UzzaDeadthat fix it?10:45
sdolnackwhy can't you give yourself root privileges?10:45
kanibal_yes10:45
UzzaDeadcongrats, sorry i couldnt help more10:45
sdolnackapparently you're not supposed have root privileges in ubuntu10:45
UzzaDeadthats what sudo is for10:45
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kanibal_there was not a inet address10:45
UzzaDeadand running as root is a very bad idea10:45
UzzaDead!root10:45
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.10:45
kanibal_only inet6 address10:45
kanibal_for ipv610:46
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sdolnackwhat is ipv6?10:47
UzzaDeadinternet protocol version 610:47
sdolnacki read that disabling it speeds stuff up10:48
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UzzaDeadno idea10:50
UzzaDeadim getting my full speed as far as i can tell, no complaints here10:50
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sdolnackwho's running dapper?10:50
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stipeme10:52
Steven_MUzzaDead: At the moment I don't have muitiverse set up in my sources.list. Here's my current sources.list http://pastebin.com/764105, someone suggested that in order to get multiverse working I should set up my sources.list like this ( http://pastebin.com/764117). Another person told me to simply add the following line to my current list. "deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse" Which method is better and what's the diff10:52
dxu2005so, jetzt hab ich konversation10:52
UzzaDeadSteven_M, i think i told you the last one10:52
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UzzaDeadjust do the last one10:52
dxu2005ups sorry, falscher cahnel10:53
UzzaDeadsdolnack, i run dapper on two soon to be 6+ systems :D10:53
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stipeanyone mount smbfs with fstab?10:53
UzzaDeadSteven_M, ?10:54
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stipethe problem is this: i want to mount smbfs at boot time, so i write the command in fstab, but when i reboot no smbfs is mount...i use kubuntu dapper10:55
nixternal`zzzg'nite all10:55
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UzzaDeadno idea stipe10:55
UzzaDeadcan you paste your fstab?10:55
stipeyes10:56
UzzaDeadvia pastbin :)10:56
UzzaDeadpastebin^10:56
stipewhere is?10:56
stipepastebin?10:56
UzzaDeadhttp://www.pastebin.com10:56
stipeok10:56
Steven_MUzzaDead:  ok, so is there any difference between the two methods?10:56
UzzaDeadSteven_M, no not really10:57
UzzaDeadit does the same thing10:57
stipehttp://pastebin.com/76470510:57
UzzaDeadno idea stipe... sorry10:57
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UzzaDeadi can only see the most basic of errors unforunately since im a noob :D10:58
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stipeUzzaDead: i think my fstab is ok, if I log on my system an I go to my shell and i write sudo mount -a it's all ok10:58
Steven_MUzzaDead:  ok, I'll go with your method then, thanks :)10:58
UzzaDeadstrange..10:58
sdolnackso can i suspend/hibernate my laptop in ubuntu?10:59
stipei use this fstab in the previous kubuntu10:59
UzzaDeadnp Steven_M mine makes it easier to comment it out if you need to in the future10:59
UzzaDeadstipe, that would probably indicated your fstab is ok10:59
UzzaDeadso the fix is beyond me10:59
Steven_Mok cool :)10:59
UzzaDeadalso dont forget to hit fetch updates10:59
stipeUzzaDead: i think is a problem of "clock" i think kubuntu set up fstab and the the network.....11:00
UzzaDeadof clock?11:00
UzzaDeadtime?11:00
UzzaDeaderr11:00
UzzaDeadyou mean kubuntu sets the fstab up and THEN the network?11:01
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stipeyes11:01
UzzaDeadhmm that very well could be11:01
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stipesorry for my bad english11:01
UzzaDeadmines not much better and im american :D11:02
stipebut before kubuntu dapper all works very well11:02
UzzaDeadim not sure how you'd load the network before fstab though11:02
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UzzaDeadmaybe wait for one of the more experienced users11:02
stipeUzzaDead: ok thx a lot11:02
UzzaDeadnp11:02
UzzaDeadgood luck11:02
stipethx11:02
UzzaDeadi hope i didnt break steven_m's sources :D11:04
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stipeany other can help me?11:04
kanibal_see you!!!11:04
UzzaDeadlater kanibal_11:04
UzzaDeadstipe, here in the states its early in the morning everyone is either in the bed or getting ready for work11:05
UzzaDeadi'd try later on today11:05
stipean ok....true...:)11:05
UzzaDead:)11:05
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UzzaDeaddu sprechen deutsch ja?11:05
stipeno11:05
stipei'm italian11:05
UzzaDeadah..11:05
UzzaDeadi dont know ANY italian11:06
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stipe:)11:06
UzzaDeadcan you send me an italian woman by chance? :D11:06
stipeno, i think i dont understand?11:06
UzzaDeadnever mind just a joke :)11:07
stipean ok11:07
UzzaDeadyour english isnt half bad though11:07
stipeare u american?11:07
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UzzaDeadyeah11:08
stipewhere?11:08
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UzzaDeadalaska11:08
Sewagetj9991, NASA uses Python...... so does the NYSE, Industrial Light and Magic, AstraZeneca, Honeywell, and many others.11:09
tj9991stop11:09
tj9991how many times have you said that11:09
tj9991that exact sentence11:09
UzzaDeadtj9991, whats that all about?11:09
UzzaDeadyou piss him off or something?11:09
tj9991i dont know11:09
tj9991but he says something, I dont respond11:10
tj9991he says it 12 more times until i finally say something11:10
UzzaDeadahhh..11:10
UzzaDeadmy sympathies11:10
Sewagetj9991, did you get your storage problem fixed11:10
tj9991thats another one of them11:10
UzzaDeadhorrible..11:10
tj9991I did 57 and 59 seconds with intuitive f2l today11:11
Sewagewow11:11
Sewagethats like twice what the others can do11:11
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tj9991yes because everyone does those times11:11
tj9991no one gradually gets there! its all instant11:11
tj9991i took up cubing two months ago11:11
UzzaDeadwhat are you talking about?11:12
tj9991rubik's cubes11:12
UzzaDeadah..11:12
SewageI dont know.  this is the Kubuntu channel11:12
UzzaDeadi never could figure those out11:12
tj9991no this is #rubiks you crazy man11:12
UzzaDeadguess that means im a dummy :D11:12
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tj9991they have lots of beginner methods anyone can do11:12
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TheLairhello11:16
UzzaDeadgreetings11:16
TheLairi need help with my AVM Fr!tz Wlan Usb STick an Kubuntu 6.0611:16
UzzaDeadi need wifi help too :)11:17
TheLairi just managed to open "ndisgtk"11:17
TheLairand installed the correct driver11:17
TheLairvia manufacturers cd11:17
UzzaDeadok11:17
TheLairnow the device is listed in "ndisgtk" - but nothing happens clicking on "configure network"11:17
TheLairwhat now?11:17
TheLair:)11:17
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UzzaDeadhave you tried iwconfig via the command line?11:17
TheLairwifi is the thing which is a bit getting on my nerves under linux.11:18
TheLairno11:18
UzzaDeadgive that a go11:18
TheLairi absolutely dont know what to do from now on even theres is no wireless entry in my system settings11:18
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UzzaDeadim a noob :)11:19
UzzaDeadi cant even get linux to see my card11:19
TheLairUzzaDead: iwconfig shows me, that with my internal wireless card the interface "eth1" is configured corrrectly11:19
TheLairbut now i wanna set up the usb stick and use that one instead11:19
TheLairinternal card?11:20
UzzaDeadpcmcia on a laptop11:20
TheLairi used the kwifimanager onmy acer aspire 1690 - it works after a bug11:20
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UzzaDeadhmmm11:20
TheLairhm seems to be same thing11:20
TheLairno card apperas at all?11:20
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UzzaDeadnone11:20
TheLairgot no idea then11:20
TheLairnoob too .)11:20
UzzaDead:D11:20
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UzzaDeaddoesnt help my laptop is a piece o' junk11:21
UzzaDeadbut lemme get you a link11:21
trym_Im using two nvidia cards to utilize 3 monitors (xinerama). The drawing performance is EXTREMELY bad..11:21
trym_when I move windows.. they get stuck11:21
UzzaDeadTheLair, try this link11:22
UzzaDeadhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wireless&titlesearch=Titles11:22
UzzaDeadin specific this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide?highlight=%28wireless%2911:23
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TheLairokay11:27
TheLairim gettung closer to it i think11:27
TheLairhttp://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=search&nodef=1&Query=1386&ResultView=2&InUser=1&Sort=211:27
TheLairi followed Susannahs advisory11:27
TheLairim ready with : driver and hardware present11:28
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TheLairhow can i route inet traffic now oer this device?11:28
UzzaDeaddunno..11:29
UzzaDeadi pretty much have to deal with it works or it doesnt11:29
UzzaDeadif it doesnt im SOL11:29
TheLairhow can i add this device? im getting frustrated :)11:30
UzzaDeadmein deutsch ist nicht gut :)11:30
UzzaDeadi probably mangled that too11:30
kakaltoI previously did not have 'usplash' in the boot runlevel, as I didn't want it to show itself. I added it temporarily to try something, then removed it again, but it is still running on bootup! any ideas how to fix this?11:31
UzzaDeadenable and disable again?11:31
UzzaDeadwow i only mangled one word :D11:32
UzzaDeadit should have been meine deutsch ist nicht gut!11:32
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makkowhy don't my gtk apps get the font settings of the kde apps (i set it up that way in system settings)?11:33
UzzaDeadno idea11:34
AeSSeDHi anyone test avidemux with dapper lts?11:34
kakaltomakko: do you have the qt-engines-gtk (or something similar) installed?11:34
kakaltomakko: did you specifically configure the gtk fonts to be same as qt ones in the kcontrol panel?11:35
TheLairavidemux seems to work11:35
AeSSeDI've problem with audio11:35
UzzaDeadi have many many problems :)11:35
TheLairAeSSeD: sry cant help11:35
AeSSeDUzzaDead: :)11:36
kakaltoAeSSeD: what is this problem you speak of?11:36
AeSSeDError opening PCM device plughw:0,011:36
makkokakalto: yes, specifically. do i still need the engines-gtk thing?11:37
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AeSSeDwith breezy work all :(11:37
kakaltomakko: well, I'm not particularly familiar with kde on ubuntu/dapper, so I'm not completely sure, but if you do a search, I believe there is a package that's something similar to that11:38
kakaltomakko: "apt-cache search engines" should find it for ya11:38
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kakaltomakko: or search for it in adept11:38
kakaltoAeSSeD: have you tried seeking help in #ubuntu?11:38
AeSSeDkakalto: not yet...11:39
UzzaDeadim out nite all11:39
kakaltoUzzaDead: 'night :)11:39
kakaltoAeSSeD: well, I wouldn't have a clue, so that's probably a good place to look11:39
AeSSeDok thx11:40
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tuxcicleskakalto: just don't use gtk apps, use kde11:48
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TheLai1--- still needing help with my fitz usb stick and kubuntu ---11:48
kakaltotuxcicles: hmm? it wasn't my problem, I was attempting to help makko11:48
AeSSeDkakalto: I've resolved with try change address manually11:49
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AeSSeDthe problem is also related in wiki when using two sound card :/11:52
kakaltoAeSSeD: so... you finding a solution?11:54
kakaltoor still stuck11:54
trym_Im using two nvidia cards to utilize 3 monitors (xinerama). The drawing performance is EXTREMELY bad..11:55
trym_any ideas?11:55
tuxciclesAeSSeD: I have 2 sound cards, well, sorta11:55
tuxciclesI have USB headphones that have a soundcard built in, and to get it to work, I have to assign it to /dev/dsp111:56
AeSSeDkakalto: I've change alsa device in plughw:1,011:57
makkotuxcicles: what do you mean don't use gtk apps?11:58
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kakaltomakko: find non-gtk equivalents12:00
kakaltofirefox: konqueror or opera12:00
kakaltogaim: kopete12:00
tuxcicleswell, that could be a solution to having windows and stuff that have a look like they belong, use kde if your using kde12:00
kakaltotrym_: I assume you're using the proper nvidia driver?12:01
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trym_kakalto: yup12:01
trym_of course :)12:02
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andrisphi all, how can i make kde 3.5.2 taskbar to show software's name instead of opened document name. For example - Konversation button in taskbar looks like this -> '#kubuntu - Konverastion'. But I'd like just 'Konversation'. Is it possible ?12:04
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defrysk trym_ old nvidia cards ?12:08
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tuxciclesandrisp: install kde, remove kubuntu desktop12:10
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andrisptuxcicles: are you sure ? i don't want to remove kuduntu desktop12:11
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tuxciclesdon't be afraid, mine dont say kubuntu, or ubuntu anything12:12
trym_defrysk: geforce 7600GT12:12
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tuxciclesandrisp: my desktop still operates kubuntuish, plus i got all the functionality of kde12:14
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Sewagemy KDE is all messed up12:15
tuxciclesandrisp: in fact, i installed a kde 3.5.2 repository for breezy, worked - worked excellent12:16
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defrysktrym_, glxinfo | grep direct12:18
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[miles] Hi, can anyone tell me if Amarok on dapper supports gstreamer or has that died off?12:24
defryskAmarok uses xine12:24
[miles] defrysk: it did use gstreamer tho12:25
andrispHow can I make Quanta Plus to keep indenting when I press 'Enter' ?12:25
[miles] are u saying that now amarok's default engine is xine?12:25
defrysk[miles] , sudo apt-get install amarok-engines12:25
[miles] nod12:25
[miles] did that12:25
[miles] only gave me arts and xine12:25
[miles] no gstreamer12:25
defryskyes12:25
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SewageMy Kubunu is messed up12:26
Sewageprograms arent showing up in the taskbar anymore12:26
defryskSewage, my first bet it you did that yourself12:26
SewageIm sure I did12:26
Sewagewhat does that have to do with anything12:26
defryskgood12:26
Sewageare you going to help?12:26
defryskwhat did you do to make it the way it is ?12:26
[miles] defrysk: you know which plugin gives me mp3 support in xine please?12:27
SewageI think from changing the Konqueror settings12:27
andrispSewage: I think you removed taskbar from panel12:27
Sewageandred, ok12:27
SewageI didnt remove it12:27
SewageI lost tons of settings12:27
defrysk[miles] , http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s12:27
[miles] ok thanks12:28
Sewageandred, you might be right12:28
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Sewageandred, ty12:28
Sewageandrisp, ty12:28
sakuIs your panel ok, Sewage?12:28
Sewagenow it is12:28
SewageId better reboot12:29
Sewagelots of things got messed up12:29
sakuI thought it was the kicker, but check kde -modules in system settings12:29
SewageKonversation is now invisible when minimized12:29
Sewageit doesnt even appear in alt-tab when minimized12:30
Sewagewhat am I checking for12:30
trym_defrysk: direct rendering: Yes12:30
defrysktrym_, ok12:30
trym_thats the way it should be?12:30
defryskyes12:31
trym_so no clues?12:31
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sakui dont know about konversation, but you can see if kde -modules dealing the program are running or not12:31
[miles] haha12:32
Sewagenothing happened when I typed kde -modules12:32
[miles] my USB telefone is playing the mp312:32
[miles] :D12:32
robin!restricted12:32
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats12:32
Sewagebash: kde: command not found12:32
defrysktrym_, only thing that might be the prob is setup of the monitors12:32
defrysktrym_, but am no too much into that12:32
trym_hmm12:32
trym_what part of the setup?12:33
defryskhor and vert12:33
Sewagesaku, is my kde messed up12:33
defrysktrym_,  HorizSync and VertRefresh12:34
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trym_defrysk: that can actually cause problems?12:34
Sewageis kde -modules a valid command?12:34
trym_lagging?12:34
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defrysknot lagging I think12:35
Sewageis kde -modules a valid command?12:35
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xst_How do I make KDE show thumbnails of my images and movies in konqueror?12:36
defryskxst_, does it not do that by default ?12:36
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_michaguten tag12:36
_michahabe massive probleme beim booten nach breezy>dapper12:37
sakuok, sewage, what was the problem anyway?n12:37
SewageI lost a lot of settings12:37
_michaerst findet das system kein netzwerk mehr, dann bleibt es bei dem schriftzug kubuntu stehen12:37
SewageKonversatoin isnt showing up when minimized12:38
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SewageAmarok thinks IM running it for the first time12:38
Sewageetc12:38
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defrysk!de12:39
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de12:39
Sewageand I typed   kde -modules   in the console, and it said  bash: kde: command not found12:39
[miles] bbiam12:39
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dobblegois kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso a bootable CD? VMWare won't boot it12:41
robinI got somethign very stupid, if I go the search bar in konqueror, I can't use enter to search :S12:42
sakuMy settings are in a constant change, too12:42
robinI don't know how I have changed it.. but don't know how to fix it either.12:42
Sewagesaku, yours got messed up?12:42
sakuignore most of them untill you can alter a few12:42
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sakuLanguage settings..etc12:43
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sakusounds with Ekiga, Skype, browser plugins..12:44
Sewage?12:44
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katakombihi.12:45
sakuKubuntu seems not that ready as when started for the first time12:45
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katakombianybody else having trouble powering down via the power button in dapper?12:45
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sakubut thats how it goes while getting to know new os12:46
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sakufor example I had no sound in browser flash player video12:50
sakuI made asound.conf to /etc12:51
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sakuand sounds work12:51
sakubut they seem to work from some other .conf too, dont know where12:52
sakulibasd is configured somewhere else, too12:53
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sakugreater degree of freedom allows multiple configurations to steer the drivers12:55
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andrisp!help01:06
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haiderheey!01:13
haiderDoes anyone know how to start xgl in kubuntu?01:13
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haider?01:15
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ryanakcalol... the kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso torrent just decided to stall at 99.71%!01:17
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mrmistHi all01:19
mrmistIs it hard to update from Breezy to Dapper ?01:19
mrmistanyone ??01:22
katakombidont think so.01:22
katakombido you have /home as separate partition?01:23
mrmistnope01:23
noiesmo!upgrade01:23
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)01:23
mrmistunfortunately not01:23
katakombii'd suggest to do so.01:23
Tallia1Kubuntu!multiverse01:23
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.01:23
katakombithat way its not too painful do to a new install01:23
noiesmo!easysource01:23
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:23
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mrmistYeah, I know. But I was new the first time I installed kubuntu01:24
mrmistIs it genery a better approach to reinstall ??01:24
mrmistgenerally01:24
katakombiin my opinion, yes01:24
mrmistWhat about all lib's and stuff?? And All the source-code ?01:24
katakombidepends somewhat on how many tweaks and newly installed apps your system already has01:24
defryskmrmist, if you have a seperate /home its definitly better01:25
mrmistthat's true01:25
mrmistdefrysk: yeah. I know. Maybe I should consider reinstalling Linux alltogether01:25
mrmistI've got this samba-share I could upload the current ".home" to01:25
katakombiI'd advise you to reinstall ubuntu at least for another time, simply to setup your partitions right :)01:25
defryskmrmist, make sure to make a seperately /home partition so you can safely install every next version without dataloss01:26
Tallia1Kubuntuhi there? i'd like to ask you which are the main package managers for debian.. i use to use synaptics.. but i'd like some more functionalities01:26
mrmistIs it hard to mound the home partition after installing then ?01:26
katakombiyou can safe your currently installed applications:01:26
katakombidpkg --get-selections > mypackages.txt01:26
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defryskmrmist, you can do that during install01:27
Tallia1Kubuntusuppose that you are trying doing something.. and you install some packages.. i'd like to have the history to be selected and aborted01:27
katakombiafter installing, you run dpkg --set-selections < mypackages.txt01:27
mrmistdefrysk: Yeah. Guess you're right. But that's kinda' the point with Ubuntu, isn't it? That you're supposed to be able to upgrade ?01:27
Tallia1Kubuntukatakombi: is that for me?01:27
katakombino, for mrmist01:27
defryskmrmist, I had no probs whatsover upgrading from breezy to dapper on another box01:27
mrmistcool01:27
katakombimrmist, back up your sensitive data and try to upgrade01:28
defryskmrmist, if you used automatix on your breezy there might be some issues01:28
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katakombiif youre not satisfied you can reinstall later01:28
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mrmistwow... --get-selections gave me 1821 rows of packages01:29
defrysk!upgrade01:29
katakombisince now there's some audience: anybody having trouble powering off via powerbutton?01:29
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)01:29
mrmistkatakombi: works nice for me01:30
katakombibut you run breezy01:30
xst_For some reason konqueror doesn't show any thumbnails of my local images/movies. What can cause this?01:30
mrmistkatakombi: yeah... heh... you're right01:30
katakombixst_ i think you have to enable it (kcontrol center -> browser ->previews)01:30
defryskmrmist, if in doubt , breezy is supported for one more year :)01:31
mrmistdefrysk: I juist finished my exams. So it's a good time to upgrade :)01:31
defryskyes01:32
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juliahi01:32
katakombidoes anybody know when the efty edge repos will be opened01:32
mrmistBut here's another question: When installing kubuntu, the i386 core is installed, right !?01:32
katakombimrmist, jes01:32
xst_katakombi: I don't have a "browser -> previews" entry. :-(01:32
defryskkatakombi, usually after 6 weeks01:32
mrmistI'd have to manually download a "i686" version of the core01:32
Tallia1Kubuntu!package01:32
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu01:32
katakombixst_ err not browser, but file managfer01:32
Tallia1Kubuntu!manager01:33
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu01:33
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juliai've installed my wlan-card, and it does connect and gets an ip, but i can't get into the internet01:33
katakombimrmist, i ve done so already01:33
katakombino problems there01:33
mrmistYeah, sure. But GRUB installs the new core as a separate choice when booting up, right !?01:33
mrmistany way to aviod this?01:33
mrmistor maybe remove some options from the startup menu?01:34
katakombiwhy wouldnt you want that?01:34
mrmistWhy would I want that ?01:34
xst_katakombi: In "file manager -> behavior -> file icons" I have checked the "images" checkbox. Is that what you mean?01:34
katakombimrmist, simply remove the i386 afterwards01:34
katakombithen you got only two entries left01:35
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mrmistkatakombi: it's that easy ? The package system will remove the option from Grub ?01:35
xst_katakombi: Also in "file manager -> previews & metadata" I have checked "local protocols/file"01:35
mrmisthow about xgl i Dapper ??01:36
mrmistDoes it work yet ?01:36
katakombixst_ the ladder is what I meant01:36
katakombimrmist, I didn't get it running01:36
katakombibut there are howtos01:36
rraajjmrmist: I *can* run XGL/Compiz in my Dapper setup, but KDE fails to load correctly everytime I boot.01:37
mrmistI've got good 3d-accel on my ATI card here, but X is slow. At least when running KDE01:37
mrmistHmm01:37
katakombixgl still sucks in several ways (gives me wrong kbd and so on)01:37
xst_katakombi: OK - but that has been selected all the time and it still doesn't show any previews. :-(01:37
katakombiwhich card you got?01:37
mrmistkatakombi: is  xgl open-source then ?01:37
katakombimrmist, yes01:38
xst_I'm using breezy, by the way01:38
katakombixst_ dunno! Its working on my system :(01:38
xst_katakombi: ok, thanks anyway01:38
mrmistkatakombi: cool01:38
mrmistkatakombi: I've got a Ati Radeon 9800 Pro (AGP)01:38
katakombimrmist, you drivers however are not01:38
xst_Would you generally recommend an upgrade from breezy to dapper?01:39
Nookie^does anyone know why sound is much more lower in amarok then in xmms.... Really bad01:39
mrmistkatakombi: huh ?01:39
katakombiyou got the firegl drivers?01:39
xst_Is dapper stable enough for that?01:39
mrmistkatakombi: I'm using fglrx01:39
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mrmistIt's good for 3D, but seems slow with KDE01:39
mrmistOr maybe it's KDE that's slow... what do I know :)01:39
katakombimrmist, should be performant on the common xorg as well !01:39
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mrmistI can't even move a window, without the graphics lagging behind01:40
katakombixst_ I found several issues01:40
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katakombibut breezy is way too old for me, so I upgraded01:40
steph_hi - i have a pb with my usb drive, it doesn't automount, how can i tell kubuntu to automount this key?01:40
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xst_katakombi: ok. Any serious issues?01:40
katakombinot really. just annoying ones01:41
mrmistAny way to test the performance in C01:41
mrmisteh... the performance in X01:41
katakombiacpi seems broken, and many kde bugs01:41
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katakombimrmist depends on what performance youre interested in01:41
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xst_katakombi: I wonder if these kind of bugs will be fixed in the near future01:42
mrmistjust desktop-windows and stuff. The 3D here is find01:42
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mrmistfine01:42
katakombixst_ so do I!01:42
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katakombino upgrades since dapper has been released, however01:42
mrmistI'm generally a bit dissapointed about the speed in KDE01:42
mrmistMaybe I'm doing something wrong01:42
katakombimrmist, what kind of system do you have?01:43
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edneymatiashi there!01:44
mrmistkatakombi: What do you mean !? Harware ?01:45
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mrmistkatakombi: Pentium 4 800MHz bus, 2x256MB ram,01:46
Hobbseeouchy.  better to run xfce on that...01:46
mrmistkatakombi: 1.8 GHz nothwood processor01:46
Hobbsee!tell vinboy about gpg01:46
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mrmistheh... sorry for all the typos. Just finished this springs last exam01:47
katakombimrmist, that should be sufficient.  what exactly is causing slowdown?01:47
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mrmistIt's just not as responsive as I'd like it to be01:47
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noteventime'ello01:48
katakombiyou got 3.5.3?01:48
noteventimeIs anyone in here using runit?01:48
katakombiit's improved in speed01:48
mrmistkatakombi: When I drag a window over the Icons on the desktop, the icons go "blank" and it takes a second or so before they reappear01:48
mrmist3.5.3 ?01:49
noteventimeIf yes, could you tell me how to get it to start kdm :P01:49
Hobbsee!kde3.5.301:49
ubotusomebody said kde3.5.3 was to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".01:49
Hobbseenoteventime: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart01:49
katakombimrmist, you might consider switching to ubuntu. it's faster01:49
noteventimemrmist, usually due to bad gpu drivers01:49
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noteventimeHobbsee, runit, not init :)01:49
noteventimeOr does it work the same way?01:50
defryskkde3.5.3 runs perfectly here , never seen anything better01:50
Hobbseenoteventime: that restarts kdm, yes01:50
katakombimrmist, seems like a graphics driver issue indeed01:50
katakombiever tried the builtin ati driver? or fbdev?01:50
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katakombithey dont offer no OpenGL, though01:50
mrmistI need OpenGL01:51
noteventimeHobbsee, works now, but how do I get it to start automatically?01:51
mrmistThat's why I'm so eager on XGL01:51
Hobbseenoteventime: it should start automatically, if it's set to init.d..01:51
katakombiif (linux+OGL) then (!ATI)01:51
mrmist'cause OpenGL is very nice indeed now!01:51
Hobbseeer, if it's in there01:51
mrmisthehehe01:51
noteventimeHobbsee, I just installed runit, an init replacement01:51
Hobbseeah...what's the difference?01:51
noteventimea LOT faster01:52
mrmistlinux+OGL works  just fine01:52
mrmistif (linux+OGL) then (!KDE || X)01:52
mrmist??01:52
noteventimeI just have to find out how to manage services :)01:52
AeSSeDwith compiled kernel from source I don't see graphics boot why??01:52
noteventimeAnyway, there is probably info on the webpage :)01:53
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noteventimeAeSSed, its a kernel patch01:53
noteventimeYou need to add the usplash patch to the kernel, AFAIK01:53
noteventimeanyway, brb01:53
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AeSSeDnoteventime: why it isn't include with other patch?01:53
katakombiis usplash working with fbdev-tng, anybody?01:54
mrmistkatakombi: I'm just having problems in X itself, not with Ogl01:54
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katakombimrmist, yeah i know. but it's a driver issue anyhow01:55
AeSSeDnoteventime: why it isn't include with other patch?01:55
noteventimeOther?01:55
katakombiokay, another one (maybe this time :) ... how to build a custom kernel with restricted modules?01:55
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mrmistAny way to get a hold of the current "fglrx" version ?01:57
mrmistI'm running glxgears with 814 fps01:57
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mookingi am just new to this distro but i have nvidia drivers working.... sorry i just joined the chat i might be missing something i get 3000FTP glxgears01:58
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mookingFPS*01:58
defryskmooking, glxinfo | grep direct01:59
katakombimrmist, that's not okay01:59
mrmistkatakombi: is it too slow ?01:59
katakombimaybe your ogl install is broken01:59
mrmisthmm01:59
katakombimrmist think so01:59
mrmistkatakombi: hmm... what do I do to find out then ?02:00
katakombii got 400 even in software gl (on a slower pc)02:00
mrmistI'm only on a 1.8 GHz02:00
katakombiglxinfo | grep -i 'Rendering'02:00
katakombiwhat is it telling you?02:00
mrmistdirect rendering: Yes02:00
defryskso its up02:01
katakombihmm, seems okay then02:01
katakombibut 800 is fucking slow02:01
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katakombiyou got AGP enabled?02:01
defryskglxgears is not a benchmarker02:01
mrmisthow do I find out ?02:01
katakombiinstall some 3d apps02:01
katakombierr games02:01
mrmisthold up02:01
noteventimetry installing the ogre3d samples02:02
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mrmistI was running the fgl-specific glxgears02:02
mrmisthow do I get the FPS-count on the original glxgears02:02
mrmist??02:02
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mrmistI've got games... they're OK02:02
noteventime-printfps02:02
katakombimrmist, not at all02:03
katakombiuh great!02:03
mrmistkatakombi: huh ?02:03
mrmistaaaaaaaah02:03
mrmist25513 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5102.472 FPS02:03
mookingwow02:03
katakombiseems better02:03
mookingwhat card?02:03
katakombii got 320002:03
mrmistATI Radeon 9800 Pro02:04
mookingnice02:04
mookingit seems setup right :D02:04
mrmistsom my OGL is OK :)02:04
mrmistI was right :D juhu02:04
katakombii think so02:04
mookingi only get 4000 athlon 1800xp with 6800GT AGP02:04
katakombigive xgl a try02:04
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mrmistxgl !?02:04
mrmisthow ??02:05
mrmistah02:05
katakombidunno. there are howtos in the wiki02:05
mrmisthehe02:05
mookinglol02:05
mrmistxgl in Dapper02:05
mrmistI kinda' brough up the issue, and forgot. Those bloody exams... hehe02:05
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katakombiwish you luck on that02:06
mrmistwith Dapper ?02:06
katakombias well, and xgl02:06
mrmistThere's lots of work being done on it these days, right ?02:06
katakombinot by me02:06
katakombi:D02:06
mrmistI'm not even trying to do it as long as I'm still running Breezy02:07
mrmistkatakombi: hehe02:07
mrmistOk... so I'm about to take this backup of my files02:07
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mrmistis there any way I can list the symbolic links on my subfolders ?02:08
mrmistIN my subfolders02:08
katakombils -la02:09
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mrmistkatakombi: er... I'd like to filter out only the links02:11
morrowfind <folder> -type l (if you want all symlinks recursive)02:11
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mrmistah02:12
mrmisti could do a "ls -al | grep "-\>"02:12
mrmisthmm02:13
mrmistnope02:13
mrmistdidn't work02:13
mrmistls -al -R | grep "\->"02:14
mrmistcool :D02:14
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mrmistouch... 374 linked files02:15
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mrmistAny idea how to take a backup of this ?02:15
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Lord_DeviI tried installin sun-java, but the it required interaction from me in the "Show Details" window while installing. I couldn't give it (Unresponsive for some reason?), so i had to kill adept, and now the database is locked..02:16
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Lord_DeviKilling the adept ps's didn't do it, so is there maybe a .pid or something i need to get rid of as well to get adept up again?02:16
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defrysksudo dpkg-reconfigure -a02:17
Lord_Devihrm ok, i'll try02:17
Lord_Devithanks02:18
mrmistkatakombi: Thanks for some good tips :)02:20
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katakombiyoure welcome :)02:21
Lord_Devithis does alot of stuff for just tryin to reset a defunct pid..02:21
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AeSSeDthe best method for compile kernel??dpkg_buildpackage or make-kpkg?02:25
katakombii think make-kpkg02:25
katakombiin combination with fakeroot02:25
AeSSeDfakeroot is an option of make-kpkg?02:26
katakombinope02:27
katakombifakeroot make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image02:27
katakombibuilds a kernel image02:28
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katakombibut you could also build headers, docs, etc02:28
katakombifakeroot is needed as far as i know unless you want to do it as root02:28
AeSSeDah ok :)02:28
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AeSSeDbut don't resolve my problem with graphic boot ;)02:29
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katakombiwhat kind of prb?02:29
AeSSeDblack screen :/02:30
katakombinvidia gfx?02:30
AeSSeDyes02:30
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katakombiproprietary drivers?02:30
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AeSSeDyep :P02:30
katakombiforget it, then02:30
katakombiI tried helluva lot, but nothing would do the job02:31
katakombisimply remove the splash option in the /boot/grub/menu.lst02:31
squillanot even ctrl alt plus?02:31
AeSSeDoh...ok...but I don't understand the difference between kernel image and source in the repository02:32
mrmistI'm leaving02:32
mrmistcya :)02:32
katakombibuy02:32
mrmistthanks for all the help02:32
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katakombiAeSSeD, that simple: image = binary image, source are the sources to build an image with02:33
Lord_Deviwow. this is still goin..02:33
katakombiafaik theres only 2.6.15 in dapper at the time being02:33
Lord_Devithat reminds me tho kata.. I need to go look up how to config my kernel in kubuntu still..02:34
Lord_Deviis there a means for using your own kernel? like from kernel.org?02:34
katakombisimply copy the /boot/configxxxx to /usr/src/linux/.config02:34
katakombirun make oldconfig, then02:34
rraajjIs there a way to bypass the "Insert CD step" when installing things through apt-get?02:35
AeSSeDok but with kernel included in dapper I see splash screen02:35
katakombiLord_Devi, it's difficult. Ubuntu provides patched kernels, the kernel.org imgs are vanilla02:35
defryskrraajj, comment the cd referring lines in sources.list02:35
rraajjdefrysk: Will try. Thanks!02:35
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Lord_Devioh ok.. so really only use ubuntu kernels then.02:36
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Lord_DeviWell what about at the very least, using the source patched kernel to remove all the unwanted stuff?02:36
noel:)02:36
rraajjdefrysk: Do I still need to do an update?02:36
katakombiLord_Devi, kind of depends, but you can get most things working with the stock images02:36
defryskrraajj, after commenting update02:36
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rraajjdefrysk: Thank you very much!02:37
katakombieven acpi02:37
AeSSeDI need use a patched kernel for my tv card :/02:37
Lord_Deviwell for example. i have this onboard soundcard ubuntu is trying to use that i don't want to use..02:37
katakombiAeSSeD try to apply the patch02:37
Lord_Deviso if i could remove it from the kernel, it would only bother with my emu10k1.02:37
defryskLord_Devi, turn of the onboard sound in your bios02:38
defryskthen your card works fine02:38
Lord_Deviyeah that's the odd thing, it already is02:38
Lord_Devii was quite surprised to see that there02:39
Lord_Devimy onboard network controller is also off, but for some reason is still here..02:39
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LeeJunFanLord_Devi: make a alias in modprobe.conf for it to /bin/true - it won't insert the module for your unwanted soundcard then.02:39
Lord_Deviat any rate, that's not the problem. the problem is i can't find a howto on how to manually configure my kernel in ubuntu :(02:39
katakombiAeSSeD, did you get suspend/resume working?02:39
noelhi! I just download kopete-0.12.0.tar.bz2 from kopete.kde.org.  cant find .deb thats why I downloaded the source package. my problem is I dont know how to install source package into my Kubuntu 6.0602:40
defryskLord_Devi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15756002:40
AeSSeDkatakombi: ????02:40
Lord_Devioh thanks02:40
LeeJunFanLord_Devi: man modprobe.conf, /install. Actually install is what you want, not alias.02:41
katakombinoel, aptitude install kdelibs4-dev g++02:41
katakombinoel: unpack it, run configure&&make&&make install02:41
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noelthats it? :)02:41
Lord_DeviLee: Thanks, i'll have a look at that too02:42
noelkatakombi: thats it? :) thanks a lot :)02:42
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katakombinoel: maybe i've forgotten something, i have been recalling it:)02:43
katakombiAeSSeD: just wanted to know if you have tried it02:43
noelkatakombi: okay heheh02:43
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Hobbseenoel: there's a deb around...02:44
defrysknoel, I'll send you the .deb link , a sec....02:45
noelhonnsee: the .deb is a beta version... :)02:45
Hobbseenoel: http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/packages/02:45
defrysknoel, works fine..02:45
Hobbseegrab the version of kde thta you use02:45
AeSSeDkatakombi: oh...yes the video card works great but I don't have splash at boot02:45
defryskyes thats the one :)02:45
defryskhehe02:45
noelhey guys! thanks so much :)02:46
noel:)02:46
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sjauhiya, I'm a newby on linux - installed ubuntu yesterday and I would like to know how I can add a "shortcut" to the desktop in this quick-start panel where already the system menu, kontact and konqueror are there02:49
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AeSSeDsjau: drag and drop :)02:51
sjauAeSSeD: but what can I drag and drop?02:52
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sjauI should would like to ahve a shortcut that takes me to the desktop (minimizing all other apps) :)02:53
defrysksjau, add applet > show desktop02:54
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defrysksjau, rightclick empty spot aon panel to do so02:54
sjaudefrysk: thanks :)02:55
sjauthat was easy02:55
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defrysk;)02:55
sjaunow I still need to sort out the crossover office problems02:55
sjau:(02:55
AeSSeDsjau: use openoffice ;)02:55
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sjauAeSSeD: Problem is EndNote does not integrate directly into OpenOffice and for my master thesis this is a lot of help, furthermore I need to run Lotus Notes and my palm software02:56
sjauand as far as I know wine can't run this or rather I am not capable of making wine run all of that ^02:57
defrysksjau, if you have wine installed make sure to uninstall it before install openoffice02:58
defryskcrossover that is sorry02:58
sjauI have not installed wine at all02:58
defryskgood02:59
sjauI heard xover can do all of that02:59
sjauthat's why I got myself a 30-day trial02:59
defryskcrossover can but ist not for free02:59
defryski see02:59
sjauI was able to install Lotus Notes02:59
defryska .sh file ?02:59
defryskok02:59
sjaubut somehow Notes cannot write to its files02:59
sjauyes, it's a .sh file for installing02:59
defryskmissing fonts ?02:59
sjaunope, it downloaded them03:00
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sjauI get in Notes "Cannot write or create file (file or disk is read-only)"03:01
defrysksjau, my advice is go to #crossover and see if they can help you there03:01
defryskthe channel is on this server03:01
sjauI am in there but I seem to be the only one that is actively in there ^03:02
sjau15min ago I posted something and nothing yet03:02
sjaunot even another request or so...03:02
sjauafter I got that RO message the first time I chmoded to 0777 the whole data folder in notes03:02
sjaubut I still get that ^03:02
defryskunfortunately nono seems here to know what to do about it and it also an off topic problem so......03:03
defrysknoone *03:03
sjauwell, maybe another question, something related to tcp/ip ^^03:03
barroscan I use the rt2570 driver shiped with drapper in WPA2+AES mode?03:03
sjauIn windows for the network settings I was able to add dns-suffixes (extern and unisg.ch), how to do that here?03:04
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Lord_Devithat "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" didn't fix the locked database problem..03:06
Lord_DeviIs there another way?03:06
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bioxzHi03:08
defryskLord_Devi, sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock03:08
defryskbetter : sudo dpkg --configure -a03:09
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Lord_DeviAha that worked03:13
Lord_DeviThank you Def =)03:13
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defryskyw03:13
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dj_baggiosjau: write in terminal: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf03:16
dj_baggiothere you can add your dns03:17
sjaubut what do I have to add exactely? :(03:17
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dj_baggioyour dns...I don't know how dns you are :)03:19
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dj_baggioI could paste my resolv.conf :)03:19
sjaudj_baggio: in windows I just could add the through the interface following dns suffixes:  extern  and  unisg.ch03:20
sjaubut in the resolv.conf I see only nameservers listed03:20
noaXessneed it some exta package to suspend/standby a notebook?03:20
sjauso I have no clue how to add those to03:20
noaXessfresh kubuntu install on asus w1v notebook.. after suspending, it never comes back,, need to hard shutdown it..03:21
katakombinoaXess, which gfx do you have?03:21
noaXesskatakombi: wait...03:24
noaXesskatakombi: gfx? graficcard?.. sorry..03:24
katakombinoaXess: yep.03:25
dj_baggiosjau: write suffixes there. Nameserver is name of your suffixes03:25
noaXesskatakombi: i used the fglrx driver: OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X700 Generic03:25
sjaudj_baggio: and then no IP adress?03:25
dj_baggiono03:26
katakombifglrx and nvidia-glx have serious problems with suspend/resume03:26
dj_baggiothere are dns adresses :)03:26
noaXesskatakombi: any workaround?03:26
sjau"extern" is one?03:26
katakombithere are some workarounds available, you should google or find it in the wiki03:26
dj_baggioIP address you have here -> /etc/network/interfaces03:26
sjauok, put there and saved the file03:26
dj_baggioor ifconfig ...03:26
dj_baggioyes03:26
dj_baggioand restart computer03:26
noaXess!fglrx03:26
ubotufrom memory, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers03:26
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katakombiif you use vesamode (boot splash) try to disable this03:27
sjauthen let's do the restart ^^03:27
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noaXesskatakombi: in the grub config?.. or systemsettings..03:28
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sjauback again :)03:31
sjauhow can I run a program as root?03:39
katakombisjau: command line: sudo <program>03:40
katakombikde: run dialog -> run as user: root03:40
sjauok ^^ thx03:40
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Hobbsee!kdesu03:41
ubotuUse kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.03:41
sjauoh, I just grun gproftpd as root03:41
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MelsenI just did a full system upgrade from my Breezy Badger to Dapper Drake... and now my network doesn't work anymore. In the KDE control Module, the interface is disabled, and when I try to enable it again, it says 'Could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend."03:47
MelsenDoes anyone know how I can fix this?03:47
noaXess!fglrx03:48
ubotufrom memory, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers03:48
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_willy996rciaoi03:48
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MelsenAnyone??03:49
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Lord_Deviok so I buggered something up. hehe, I don't know what it was, but now when I enter my login/pw into kdm, it displays the kdm background, and then quits and goes back to an empty login field03:54
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Lord_Deviis there a log i could look at or something to get an idea of what might be goin on?03:54
shocktrooper1I still suffer from the no sound bug, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/43738, would compiling a kernel solve this issue?03:56
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MelsenIs there any of you 258 people who knows how to re-configure your network settings?04:00
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xwolf-Melsen specifically...?04:01
MelsenI just did a full system upgrade from my Breezy Badger to Dapper Drake... and now my network doesn't work anymore. In the KDE control Module, the interface is disabled, and when I try to enable it again, it says 'Could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend."04:02
Melsentried removing the interfaces file and restarting the kde network config.. didn't work04:02
Melsentried sudo ifup eth004:02
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Melsenjust says network is down04:02
Melsencant get it back up again04:02
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Melsenany idea xwolf- ?04:03
xwolf-i'm not-quite-a-noob-but-close-to, so i can't help you.04:03
Melsenpretty screwed up since it's my primary work station here at work04:03
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Melsencrap04:04
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MelsenOh my Im fucked....04:05
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robin!xgl04:05
ubotuI heard xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"04:05
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HobbseeMelsen: wireless or wired?04:06
Hobbsee!language04:06
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.04:06
Melsenwired04:06
aseigoMelsen: have you tried with straight ifconfig?04:06
aseigoe.g. ifconfig eth0 up04:06
aseigodhclient eth004:06
Melsendhclient I tried04:06
Melsendidnt work04:06
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Melsenlemmy try ifconfig04:06
HobbseeMelsen: define "didnt work"04:07
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MelsenHrmm04:08
Melsenwell.. when I did an ifconfig eth0 up04:08
MelsenI got some permission denied04:08
Melsen(I did remember sudo)04:08
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Melsenpermission denied on a bunch of SIOCSIFADDR stuff04:08
r0xzMelsen: this is just a guess, but on my motherboard i have two nic's. On dapper my normal nic for internet changed from eth0 to eth1, maybe you have sort of a same situation there(?)04:09
Melsenand something about permission denied on /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/samba04:09
Hobbseeick04:09
MelsenThen when I tried the dhclient.. I also got permission denied on /etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new04:10
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MelsenIt ends with: SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted.. and then04:11
Melsenand then /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-script: line 33: /etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new: permission denied04:13
Melsenand after that.. 3 times the same error.. all referring to line 4104:13
Melsenand then it says04:13
Melsenchown: cannont access '/etc/resolv.conf... yada yada... no such file or directory04:13
r0xzweird, i don't even have the /etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new file04:13
crammHi, I burned the drapper dvd of kubuntu for a friend... and now he asks me by e-mail that it has no emacs, gimp or valgrind. I'm browsing the loopmounted .iso image and i see they are in fact included. Does the installation process add the dvd repo to the sources.list so it can be used by Adept etc.?04:13
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r0xzMelsen: are you sure the network you're in should be DHCP and not static?04:14
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MelsenYes r0xz =)04:15
MelsenIm the system administrator here :P04:15
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MelsenThis all worked fine before I did a full system upgrade04:15
r0xzow, i see04:15
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Melsendamn Im screwed04:16
Melsensorry.. language again04:16
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slow-motionre04:17
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Melsenbrb04:18
racookierhi04:18
racookiersomebody knows how to configure network interfaces?04:18
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racookieri go to settings -> network, then i change the gateway, and nameservers, but he say that i must enter an alias first04:19
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racookierso when i apply changes the card don't have the changes04:20
robinsigh, to get the <Super> key (aka windows key working) I have to start every time gnome-control-panel, and click on the keyboard icon, and than close it. :\ there should be another way ?04:20
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racookierrobin: this is kubuntu channel, not gnome, but make the changes as sudo, or change the xorg .conf file04:22
elvstonehrm. i'm installing sun-java5-bin with adept, and the installation has stopped, if i choose "Show Details" i can see that it's a ncurses dialog showing the Sun license agreement, but i can't seem to confirm it in any way..04:22
robinracookier: I'm using kubuntu04:22
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robinracookier: but I need to change it for use with xgl :)04:22
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racookierenter as root or use gksudo to meke changes04:23
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MasterEvilAcedoes Konqueror basically do everything Firefox does? it seems to.04:23
MasterEvilAcefirefox also seems a bit slower as far as loading goes04:23
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MasterEvilAcewondering if i should just use konqueror04:23
racookierhow to activate javascript under konqueror??04:24
Hawkwind!java04:25
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs04:25
robinjavascript != java04:25
r0xzracookier: should be activated by default04:25
robin!javascript04:25
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, robin04:25
HawkwindI needed the info, sorry.  Wasn't for him :P04:25
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robin^^04:26
HawkwindThat URL is no good04:26
HawkwindThe one for javascript04:26
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racookierit is activated, it seems that java it's installed, don't work, will review04:28
racookierhow to configure thernet card to acces internet throug common gateway04:28
racookierhow to configure thernet card to acces internet throug common gateway?04:28
shocktrooper1would compiling my own kernel resolve my no sound issue?04:29
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racookierno one?04:32
racookierhow to configure thernet card to acces internet throug common gateway?04:32
racookierhow to configure Ethernet card to acces internet throug common gateway?04:32
Hobbseeracookier: dont repeat.04:33
Hobbseeif no one answers, no one knows04:33
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kubuntutaotaowho can give me some about datas of kdevelop3?04:34
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jaimshi04:34
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racookierunder linux (without graphical env.) there was an utility (something like net-config) but now i don't find it...04:35
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visik7racookier: edit /etc/network/interfaces and use ifup ifdown04:37
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StageZeroI've edited the /etc/network/interfaces to configure default gateway and encryption of my wireless LAN. Now everything works.04:37
StageZeroThere is a bug in the configuration tool for Dapper Drake.04:37
racookierok will try04:38
robert__hi to everybody04:38
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StageZeroThis bug already was within Breezy Badger.04:38
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robert__can somebody please help me about sound in kubuntu?04:38
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_ubuntuI am new at linux04:40
_ubuntuso any help is appreciated04:40
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katakombi_ubuntu, what sound card do you have?04:40
_ubuntusound blaster I think04:40
r0xzStageZero: please report or confirm it at launchpad04:40
katakombisorry, meant robert__04:40
dr_willisHmm.. it helps if you know what you got. :P04:40
robert__tnx, i have a soundblaster live04:40
katakombishould work fine04:41
katakombido you have an onboard sound card also?04:41
dr_willisyou using the digital out for the speakers? or the normal outputs?04:41
_ubuntumine is awe64 soundblaster I believe04:41
robert__yes but is actually turned off in the BIOS04:41
robert__i mean, the onboard card04:41
katakombiwhat is the output of lsmod |grep snd_04:42
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=== dr_willis has had several (most all) of the soundblaster/creative cards.. and about all of them work fine in linux. BUT sometimes you need to twiddle with the mixer to get the things unmuted/channels set right.
robert__should i paste the output here?04:42
robert__there are several lines04:43
katakombionly if its not too much04:43
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katakombii dont know the limut04:43
katakombilimit04:43
robert__let me try04:43
katakombiwait04:43
robert__uhm, maybe not04:43
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robert__let me explain u what is the problem04:43
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robert__actually the sound works with amarok04:43
katakombioki04:44
robert__but with vlc doesn't work04:44
robert__and neither with xmms with arts plugin04:44
katakombido you run the apps at the very same time?04:44
robert__no04:44
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katakombivlc might have options to select the sound output04:45
katakombi(oss/alsa/arts/esd...)04:46
katakombiwhich one is activated?04:46
CaBlGuYHobbsee: is that you...  :-O   wow...04:46
dr_willissound working with some tools and not other video players - is a sign of codec issues.04:46
HobbseeCaBlGuY: um?  yes?  i think it's me...04:46
CaBlGuYHobbsee:  cool..04:46
HobbseeCaBlGuY: what makes you say that?04:47
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Hobbseehehe04:47
Lord_Deviif device 'null' is set to 666 in udev permission ruleset, shouldn't the /dev/null file actually be chmodded 666? Is there a way I can make sure udev is doin it's job and loading properly n' stuff?04:47
robert__katakombi...04:47
robert__i have alsa selected04:48
_ubuntuI shall return later...thank you04:48
CaBlGuYHobbsee:  just aint seen ya around latley...  I installed K so, now I'm "officialy" allowed in here...04:48
CaBlGuY:p04:48
HobbseeCaBlGuY: yay :)04:48
Hobbseei've been here...04:48
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CaBlGuYsure ya have....   U aint gotta lie to me hun....   :p04:48
Hobbsee:P04:48
HobbseeCaBlGuY: see the logs :P04:49
Hobbseejust maybe nto talkign so much here today04:49
CaBlGuYanyway, yea, K is ok I guess.....  and I for sure like 3.5 better than whatever was with breezey..04:49
CaBlGuYHobbsee:  ahhh  yes, I see the logs...04:49
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Hobbsee:)04:50
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Hobbseeyeah, it is an improvement04:50
CaBlGuYok, goin to eat..  bbl04:50
CaBlGuYo/04:50
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azathorhola este canal es en espaol??04:52
slow-motionbbs04:52
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robert__someone can help me with the sound of vlc and mplayer^04:53
robert__?04:53
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slow-motionre04:54
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noaXessif i compile the linux-sources with make-kpkg, wehre are the errors logged?04:57
MasterEvilAcehow do I make karamba open specific widgets whenever i open it?04:58
HobbseenoaXess: maybe in the directory above the source directory?04:58
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noaXessHobbsee: in /usr/src ??04:59
noaXessthe sources are in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.1504:59
noaXessyou know :)04:59
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noaXessaha.. ;05:00
noaXessthink error log should be in the source directory.. but i don't see anything.. or even a make-kpkg logfile..05:00
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racookierok eth0 configured... thanks05:02
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pekujaI have a problem with power management. I have enabled ACPI suspend, but pressing the button on my keyboard does nothing. It works fine in Gnome.05:04
pekujaalso, using klaptop_acpi_helper directly works fine05:05
pekujabut the suspend button does nothing05:05
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katakombipekuja: you got lucky. my suspend button freezes the system05:06
pekujaheh05:06
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magicbronsonhi, i use a DVD->mpeg-4 encoder called HandBrake (originally available for BeOS) to back up my DVD's on my mac. does anyone know if there's something like this for kubuntu?05:08
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dr_willisive used dvd::rip to copy dvds over to video files.05:10
dr_willisand transcode.. and others.05:10
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goldenearmagicbronson: you may use matroska for that05:10
magicbronsongoldenear: matroska? i typed it into adept and it didn't list anything. what repo is it in?05:12
goldenearmagicbronson: matroska in not a soft, it's a conatainer... there are some tools under linux to backup DVDs into a matroska .mkv file IIRC05:13
goldenearyou may ask on irc #matroska channel on the irc.corecodec.com server05:13
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winbondi did sofware raid0 and the setup stops at the GRUb installation screen , does anyone know what can couse this?05:14
StageZeroI search for a good software to manage meetings and todo-lists.05:15
dr_willisusing the live cd/livecd installer  winbond ?05:15
StageZeroSomething like Microsoft Outlook, but without E-Mail-Client.05:15
StageZeroWhat can you recommend for this purpose?05:16
dr_willis'microsoft outlook' and 'good' :P lol....05:16
dr_willistheres that firefox thang. :) but ive never used it.05:17
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StageZeroThunderbird?05:17
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dr_willisyea :P heh05:17
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StageZeroThunderbird is just a E-Mail-Client.05:18
winbondi did sofware raid0 and the setup stops at the GRUb installation screen , does anyone know what can couse this?05:18
DrBairStageZero: kontact05:18
DrBairStageZero: or just Korganizer if you only want a calendar05:19
StageZeroCan Thunderbird (my E-Mail-Client) use contact-data from kontact?05:19
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pussfellerprobably05:19
pussfellerbut why not use kmal05:19
pussfellerkmail05:20
pussfellerits all integrated with kopete too05:20
StageZeroKMail...05:20
pussfellerkmail isnt that bad05:20
StageZeroI know Thunderbird from Windows and I like it.05:20
dr_williskopete - is too close to the name of a  Pepto-bismo   variant. :P05:20
charwoodQuick question: I installed Dapper 6.06 3 days ago.  So far apt-get upgrade has only installed 4 additional packages.  Usually this number is more like 150.  Are updates frozen for a while or is something wrong with my setup?05:20
DrBairkmail is pretty nice too05:20
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dr_willischarwood,  not seen many updates yet either.05:20
charwoodI love kmail.  I won't use anything but it.05:20
dr_willischarwood,  it also depends on the # of packages you got installed.05:21
pussfelleri forward all to gmail now and let firefox handle it05:21
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charwooddr_willis:  I think that even the default install has around 900.  I've added another couple hundred to this.  But usually even the default install will want to update tens if not hundreds.05:21
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MasterEvilAceWOW-- just realized a lame problem. My linux idles at 2-30% CPU.05:22
h3sp4wncharwood: What is wrong with it just completely not working ?05:22
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MasterEvilAceer 20-30%05:23
charwoodh3sp4wn: Sorry, you mean the fglrx driver?05:23
MasterEvilAcewhat's command to list out current processes with current CPU (non-updating)05:23
pussfellerps aux?05:23
h3sp4wncharwood:  * charwood hopes for a fix to fglrx for the mobility 20005:24
MasterEvilAcety puss05:24
charwoodRight.  Currently the driver doesn't support onboard memory for my motherboard/graphics combo (a series of HP/Compaq notebooks).  It saddens me greatly.05:24
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h3sp4wncharwood: Have you tried installing the drivers from ati (i.e is the problem specific to ubuntu or a fault with the actual driver)05:26
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charwoodh3sp4wn: From what I've read on numerous pages, the current driver (and the last few versions) has affected at least Suse, Gentoo, and Ubuntu so I have sort of assumed that it is affecting everyone.05:28
h3sp4wncharwood: And any previous versions to that probably don't support xorg 705:29
goldenearmagicbronson: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2145505:30
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charwoodh3sp4wn: That may be the case.  The last time I had it working was before 7 although that was on a slightly different computer.05:30
noaXesshoe05:31
noaXesshave an make-kpkg error in the newest linux-source: bin natrlich sowiso dabei :) GRINS05:31
noaXessare there any other information, created by make-kpkg?05:32
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noaXess!jave05:35
ubotunoaXess: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:35
noaXess!java05:35
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:35
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magicbronsongoldenear: thanks, reading now05:36
magicbronsonis there a package for this in some repository, or do you have to track it manually through sourceforge?05:38
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vhsalguien habla espaol05:46
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jaimsbye05:48
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charwoodvhs: Puedo tratar.05:50
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imbrandon!es05:54
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:54
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Tallia1Kubuntuhey, somebody knows how to configure mouses with more than 3 buttons? i have a microsoft intellimouse 3000, with a clickable wheel, 2-axis wheel and a thumb button...05:59
rody-DruAlI've got a little question, I'm using Kubuntu Live on my Windows XP system, but I can't seem to 'see' my (NTFS) hard drives? Do I need to do something before i can see these?06:00
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charwoodrody-DruAl: They should be there by default.  Do you know how they are plugged into the motherboard and partitioned?06:02
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charwoodAlmost always Windows C: is the "hda1" device.06:02
rody-DruAlcharwood: it is one disk (laptop) partitioned into 3 smaller partitions06:03
rody-DruAlI can see them now at /media/06:03
rody-DruAlbut when i click on them06:03
rody-DruAlit says:06:03
rody-DruAlCould not mount device.  Error was: mount: can't find /dev/hda1  in etc/fstab or /etc/mtab06:03
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charwoodrody-DruAl: Let's try it manually for fun then.  Open a konsole (Alt-F2, type "konsole")06:04
rody-DruAljep got that06:05
charwoodThen "cd /media" then "ls"06:05
rody-DruAlonly says: sdal06:05
charwoodOk.  That is probably your SATA C:06:05
charwoodNow "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1"06:06
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rody-DruAl"/dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/sda1 busy"06:07
rody-DruAl"according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted"06:07
charwoodrody-DruAl: "cd sda1"06:07
charwoodrody-DruAl: "ls" (LS)06:07
charwoodrody-DruAl: Does it show your directories?06:07
rody-DruAlnope06:08
rody-DruAli get in the directory06:08
rody-DruAlbut nothing06:08
rody-DruAlit's seems empty :S06:08
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charwoodrody-DruAl: Tricky.  Try "sudo umount /dev/sda1" and then try remounting it.06:08
rody-DruAldevice is busy zegt ie dan06:09
rody-DruAlsorry06:09
rody-DruAlthat was dutch :)06:09
rody-DruAldevice is busy it says :)06:09
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charwoodrody-DruAl: Yeah, Dutch isn't much my specialty.  (-806:09
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rody-DruAli can see the drives in the storage media screen, they point to: hda1 hda5 en hda606:10
rody-DruAlnot sda06:10
wasp_emshello06:10
rody-DruAlbut i can't open them06:10
rody-DruAl:)06:10
Tallia1Kubuntuhey, somebody knows how to configure mouses with more than 3 buttons? i have a microsoft intellimouse 3000, with a clickable wheel, 2-axis wheel and a thumb button...06:10
wasp_emsi have a problem with xine can someone help me?06:10
rody-DruAlwhen it boots, it also says something like: (mount: command not implemented) ... maybe this has something todo with it06:11
wasp_ems I have found more than one occurance of 'xine' in your PATH:06:11
charwoodrody-DruAl: You could try "sudo mkdir /media/windows" then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows"06:11
wasp_ems         /usr/bin/X11/xine06:11
wasp_ems         /usr/bin/xine06:11
wasp_ems         You have probably installed xine-ui more than once, or the directory06:11
wasp_ems         where you have installed xine occurs more than once in your PATH.06:11
wasp_ems         Technically, this is not really a problem, but it's probably06:11
wasp_ems         somewhat confusing, as it's not obvious, which xine you're using.06:11
wasp_ems         You should probably uninstall the copies that you don't use...06:11
wasp_ems         Further tests assume, you're using /usr/bin/X11/xine06:11
wasp_emsit tells me i have installed it twice and i get this message06:11
charwoodrody-DruAl: It may be that /dev/sda1 is your CD drive.06:11
kkathmanI am trying to install the static Opera deb, but Im getting a dependency message saying that I need xlib6g and xlibs. I installed xlibs-dev  and libx11-dev but apparently this doesnt seem to help. Is there something else I need to install to get xlib6g and xlibs??06:12
wasp_emshow can i remove one of them?06:12
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kubuntutaotaoi am using kdevelop3,when i compile,show a messege for "aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library".why/06:13
charwoodwasp_ems: as root you can simply delete the link to xine out of /usr/bin/06:13
wasp_emsso i just find the xine icon and delete it?06:13
rody-DruAlcharwood: that works,06:13
rody-DruAlit doesn't give an error msg at least :)06:14
charwoodrody-DruAl: Wonderful.06:14
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rody-DruAlbut now, how to go further?06:14
sorush20hi guys is there a kmymoney channel?06:14
charwoodwasp_ems: I doubt that you can delete it without being root.  You will probably need to log into a konsole and "sudo rm /usr/bin/xine"06:14
rody-DruAli'm a bit of a noob still ;)06:14
wasp_emscharwood: ok thanx06:14
charwoodrody-DruAl: There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.  Welcome to Linux.06:14
rody-DruAlwhen i try to go into the windows directory it says: "permission denied"06:14
rody-DruAlcharwood: hehe thanx :)06:14
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Tallia1Kubuntu!mouse06:15
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ubotuit has been said that mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev Installing extra cursor themes can be done easily with gcursor06:15
charwoodrody-DruAl: Well, as you can probably tell I'm not a Kubuntu expert either.   The problem is that we mounted your drive as root and so it defaults to only visible as root.06:15
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charwoodrody-DruAl: You should be able to access it by running konqueror as root "kdesu konqueror".06:16
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rody-DruAlcharwood: damn you're right.. i do get to the drives now..06:17
rody-DruAlbut i'm not logged in as root i think.. let's try loggging out06:17
rody-DruAlwhat is the default root password? do you know that?06:18
charwoodrody-DruAl: It is generally discouraged to use kde as root.  The real solution is to edit your /etc/fstab so that all uses can mount those drives and that it happens automatically.06:18
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charwoodrody-DruAl: It's sort of strange how kubuntu does it.  You have to set it yourself.  "sudo passwd root"06:19
rody-DruAlahh ok06:19
rody-DruAlhmm.. now i can't seem to get back to my session because it asks for a password :)06:19
rody-DruAlhehe let's reboot06:19
charwoodrody-DruAl: Hang on.06:20
charwoodYou need to add the following to /etc/fstab: "06:20
charwood /dev/hda1       /media/windows        ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       106:20
rody-DruAljust a sec, it's rebooting06:20
rody-DruAlok is this possible with a live cd?06:20
charwoodrody-DruAl: I'm pretty sure that once that is in fstab you can mount the drive normally.06:21
rody-DruAlok, i'll try that when it booted again06:21
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rody-DruAlcharwood i think i can't edit fstab because I run kubuntu from a live cd06:27
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rody-DruAlcharwood: it seems to work now, i just type in the line you gave me every time. No problem, it's just a test anyhow!06:36
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rody-DruAlthanks alot!06:36
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charwoodrody-DruAl: You are welcome.06:37
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newb123hi guyz! :)06:39
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auTONYmousI got a problem...brand new install of kubuntu dapper06:40
auTONYmousI installed, ran an update using the default repos, now kdesu is broken06:40
rabbywhat is last version of Kubuntu?06:41
newb123how long will it take to get my cd's?06:41
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aseigorabby: 6.06, dapper06:41
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rabbythx06:41
newb123the distro's stores are in the neerthalands if am not wrong rite?06:41
robinnetherlands ?06:42
newb123netherlands*06:42
robinDutch you mean ?06:42
newb123ya06:42
robinyou can select Dutch yes.06:42
newb123:( i live there and i think it will take long!06:42
auTONYmousif anybody can help my kdesu problem : http://pastebin.com/76551006:42
robinnewb123: I live there too, you can download the iso, why you want the cd.06:42
waspioushello i have a problem...i removed all the xine files from my pc cause i had a problem, i restarted my pc and now i do not seem to have a graphical interface..i am on a black screen where i can log on..what can i do to fix it?06:42
newb123:0 i have no burner at th emoment pc good pc is gone but my friend can do it for me within 1 hour he has rlly fast inernet06:43
robinlooks you have removed more than only the xine files.06:43
robinnewb123: you have to do something about your english :P06:44
waspiousrobin:i dont think so..but what can i do?06:44
waspiousthe same thing had happened when i tried to upgrade to dapper\06:44
newb123sorry i mean i have no cd burner at the moment!06:44
auTONYmousbrb06:44
robinwaspious: well, first thing, how did you remove the xine stuff ?06:45
waspiousfrom adept\06:45
newb123hehe robin the master kubunta pro!06:45
robinwaspious: ok, check the /var/log/Xorg*** files06:45
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newb123kabuntu*06:46
robinwaspious: maybe you will find an error message there.06:46
newb123Kubuntu strange name06:46
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auTONYmousaaah...great. Now I'm getting the kdesu window, with "conversation with su failed"06:46
robinhmm sounds really something ugly :)06:46
waspioushow do i open the xorg log file?06:46
robinwhat did you do :)06:47
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newb123man ik haat dit!06:47
robinwaspious: use cat06:47
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robinwaspious: cat <filename>06:47
auTONYmousrobin: nothin. brand new load, one update, default repos06:47
robinauTONYmous: strange, I have no idea.06:47
robinI got a question myself. If I run setxkbmap I get a seg fault :\..06:48
waspiousrobin it went through allot of pages and then stopped..i cannot view them..anything else i can do?06:49
robinwaspious: sorry use: cat <filename> | less06:49
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robinwaspious: than you can scroll it.06:49
waspiousi cannot06:49
robinerror from setxbkmap: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/76552506:50
slow-motionbye06:50
robinwaspious: with the page up/down and the error keys ?06:50
robinnewb123: what do you hate ?06:50
Search4LancerI have no sound from flash movies.... and it sucks06:50
waspiousit does not work06:50
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robinwaspious: hmm it should, oh well the error message is (if there is one) at the end.06:51
fentekreelcan some one help me get vnc working?06:52
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waspiouswell it does not say about an error anywhere...06:52
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auTONYmoushmm...seems someone else has had the same problem with kdesu06:52
auTONYmoushttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=5712.006:53
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aro_ronI need some help installing KDE along side Gnome on my Dpper install. it keeps giving me a long list of errors, and wants to uninstall the gonme desktop before installing KDE. Any solutions?06:53
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waspiousthe command to start the graphical is what?06:53
fabimstartx06:54
robin^^06:55
waspiousi run startx and i got the message unable to start c session --no /home/waspius/ ./xsession etc06:55
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robinbrb06:56
fabimi have a silicon motion  links 3dm in a laptop but i am using an external monitor . i have the silicon package installed , but i can't get a resolution bigger that 640X48006:57
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waspiousbasically it says i have no session managers,no window managers,and no emulators06:59
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robinwaspious: maybe adept has deinstalled a lot more than only xine06:59
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waspiousmaybe but how can i fix it07:00
robinwaspious: can you re-install kdm and kde-desktop ?07:00
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waspioushow?07:00
auTONYmousweird...all that problem, and a reboot fixed it.07:00
auTONYmouswaspious: are you in Gnome right now?07:01
waspiousno07:01
auTONYmousCLI?07:01
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waspiousfeugw07:02
waspiouseuxaristw07:02
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robinwaspious: apt-get install kdm07:04
fentekreelis there a apt-get for flash?07:04
auTONYmousAutomatix, FTW!07:04
robinand apt-get install kde07:04
robinfentekreel: yes, if you have added the multiverse / universe repositories07:04
robin!restricted07:05
ubotuwell, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats07:05
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TheHighChildfentekreel you can search the repositories with adept or 'apt-cache search <package>07:05
robinfentekreel: the package is flashplugin-nonfree07:06
magicbronsoni want to install more ram into this computer. is there a program i can run which will indicate what kind to get and how much more can fit?07:06
TheHighChildmagicbronson no you'll need to check the manufacturer specs07:07
TheHighChildmagicbronson if you know what motherboard you have, I will look it up07:07
magicbronsonTheHighChild: thanks! is there any way to tell what motherboard i have without opening it up?07:08
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magicbronson(this is a computer someone else put together for a family member that i inherited)07:08
TheHighChildmagicbronson: not that I know of. However, if it is a premanufacturrer machine, it should have a make and model. I can look it up from that07:08
TheHighChildmagicbronson oh, my bad07:08
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TheHighChildmagicbronson How old is it?07:09
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magicbronsona year tops07:09
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magicbronsonit has an AMD Athlon 2400 XP 2400+07:10
magicbronsonbut only 256 MB of RAM07:10
magicbronsonand i find Kubuntu sluggish with this little memory07:10
TheHighChildmagicbronson I suggest getting a hold of the guy that assembled it and asking him. Heck, maybe he'll come over and put the RAM in for you07:10
magicbronsonyeah, that's what i'll do, thanks07:10
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Leopardhej. can i do a dist-upgrade from the cdrom ?07:11
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thompais there some way to change the desktop background on one of the multiple desktops?07:11
gil_i need help07:12
gil_where is the file that lists repositories07:12
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gil_i made a mistake and now adept wont start07:12
katakombiits /etc/apt/sources.lst07:12
gil_thanks07:12
dutch/etc/apt/sources.list07:12
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TheHighChildthompa yes, right click on the desktop > configure desktop07:13
TheHighChildin there, you'llhave a dropdown list asking which dekstop setting you'd like to change07:14
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TheHighChilddid that work for you thompa?07:16
TheHighChildoops, left, my bad07:16
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gil_ok i need some help here with azureus07:23
gil_anyone07:23
gil_?07:23
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TheHighChildgil_ waht is your problem?07:24
gil_installed azureues...but it wont load up....07:24
gil_i think it may be a java issue07:24
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TheHighChildWhat method did you use to install Azureus?07:24
gil_fro adept07:24
TheHighChildok, one sec07:25
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defrysk gil_ why not try ktorrent07:26
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magicbronsonhey, does anyone if there is an equivalent of gmail notifier for kubuntu?07:27
magicbronsonknow*07:27
TheHighChildgil_ do you see azureus in your 'Internet' programs list?07:27
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defryskmagicbronson, there is one in karamba i believe07:27
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magicbronsondefrysk: what's karamba?07:27
defryskeye candy for kde07:28
magicbronsondefrysk: cool07:28
TheHighChildkcheckgmail?07:28
defryskkaramba has a pop3 notifier afaIk07:28
gil_yes its installed but wont load up....starts loading all devices then disappears07:28
defryskso you can use that07:28
magicbronsonTheHighChild: is kcheckgmail a package? i typed "gmail" into adept and found nothing07:28
TheHighChildok gil_ open a konsole and type 'azureus' see if you get errors on the startup and what they are07:29
TheHighChildmagicbronson yeah, I just did an apt-cache search and it turned up. I don't use it, just suggested it as an option07:29
TheHighChildmagicbronson perhaps we have a different sources.list you want me to make mine available? no warranty on it though ;)07:29
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magicbronsonTheHighChild: that'd be great07:30
gil_i get a whole bunch of java errors07:30
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defryskgil_, got sunjava installed ?07:30
jrattnerAnyone know when Amarok 1.4 will be added to the repos?07:30
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chavojrattner, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php07:31
chavoit won't be in dapper main07:31
gil_how do i install sunjava07:31
gil_sorry for the ignorance07:31
defryskgil_, sunjava in the repos is b0rked so dont use that one it wil lock up apt07:32
defrysk!java07:32
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:32
crimsundefrysk: borked?07:32
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jrattnergil_, take a look at easyubuntu07:32
defryskcrimsun, jes the sunjavapackage has locked up several apt users07:32
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crimsundefrysk: using $apt or adept?07:33
defrysknot sure what they used , adept i beleieve07:33
defryskthey had to sudo dpkg --configure -a to fix the lock and had no java installed07:33
crimsungood god, 33 bugs already07:33
gil_ok07:33
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gil_where do i get this java pacakge07:34
dutchcrimsun, :)07:34
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defryskgil_, you'll have to make one ;)07:34
gil_no deb07:34
gil_?07:34
defryskgil_, no you are gonna make the deb07:35
defryskisnt that exiting ?07:35
gil_oh yeah.....joy07:35
defrysklol07:35
gil_the guide here says that multiverse comes with sun package? is that the one that is "borked"07:36
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defryskmultiverse pakage is not working at the moment so dont use it07:36
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gil_ok07:36
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gil_all i want is my azureus to work07:37
defryskgil_, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fabecb1554d75cd3116507e4da83335d4e4f8f3e07:37
magicbronsonTheHighChild: if it's less of a pain, you could just tell me what repos you're tracking07:38
defryskfirst download the javapackage as staded in the wiki and make sure to get the .bin , not the rpm.bin07:38
defryskstated*07:38
fentekreeldoes anyone here have any experience with getting also working on an nforce3 board?07:38
crimsunfentekreel: did you mean "alsa"?07:38
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gil_ok07:38
TheHighChildmagicbronson sorry, I forgot. Lol, here they are now07:38
TheHighChildhttp://milkspank.com/ubuntu/sources.list_THC07:38
gil_thanks07:38
fentekreelyeah07:38
fentekreelthat too ;)07:39
fentekreelheh07:39
gil_now that i am here...could someone please help me with suspend mode on my toshiba laptop07:39
magicbronsonTheHighChild: thanks!07:39
defryskgil_,   JRE 5.0 Update 707:39
fentekreeli'm trying to get the spdif working07:39
gil_yes got it already07:39
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defryskLinux self-extracting file is the one you want07:39
gil_i cant for the life of me get this freaking machine to get out of suspend07:40
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TheHighChildgil_ what machine?07:40
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defryskgil_, before you can download you have to tic the Accept License Agreement button07:41
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fentekreelcuz i'm trying to get amrok working but it wont play out07:41
gil_i have a toshiba m40x07:42
gil_i have not been able to get suspend mode to work ok07:42
gil_actually its totally bunk07:42
defryskfentekreel, http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch04s03.html07:42
gil_it goes into suspend but does not go out07:42
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fentekreelyeah defrysk07:43
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defryskfentekreel, and set amarok to the xine engine07:44
fentekreelok thats done07:44
defryskfentekreel, restart amarok and try it07:45
magicbronsonkubuntu is automounting my external usb hard drive at /media/sda. this is working fine, except it doesn't actually become aware of the contents until i click the icon that appears on my desktop (if i cd into /media/sda and ls, nothing appears). will this be fixed if i add it to my fstab?07:45
lwellshow can I upgrade to Dapper??07:45
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defrysk!upgrade07:45
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)07:45
fentekreelstrange amrokplays but it wont play groove salad07:46
defrysksoma.fm right ?07:46
fentekreelyeah07:46
defryskhmm07:46
fentekreeli am getting system sounds so i know that works out of the 1/8" jack07:46
defrysklet me try07:46
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gil_defrysk: give me a hand with this07:47
defryskgil_, got the download ?07:48
gil_got the download and made it executable....now what?07:48
defryskfentekreel, doublkick one of the streamlinks07:48
fentekreelits not associated with anything07:49
fentekreelthe pls file07:49
fentekreelhmm07:50
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fentekreeli doble clicked and it failed to open but when i open the pls file with amaok there is no sound07:51
defryskgil sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common07:51
defryskdid you not open the .pls with amarok ?07:51
defryskgil you got multiverse and universe enabled ?07:51
defryskfentekreel, also groove salad seems a bit congested of and on07:51
defryskvolume is up07:52
defrysk?07:52
fentekreelyea 82%07:52
gil_yes07:52
defryskand it recognized mp3 ?07:52
fentekreeli dont have any mp3's atm07:52
defrysknot an unknow format message in amarok I mean ?07:53
fentekreelall on another hd07:53
fentekreeloh no07:53
defryskthen the sound has probs07:53
defryskopen alsamixer and see if one of the lines is muted07:53
fentekreelthough i get system sounds07:53
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defryskfentekreel, otherwise turn off arts , that what i usually do anyway07:54
fentekreelarts?07:54
defryskthe kde sound server07:54
fentekreelahh07:54
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defryskin kde4 arts wil be gone \o/07:54
gil_defrysk: i dont have these packages....what repository are they on07:54
lwellsis just changed the source list to upgrade to dapper, is that ok?07:55
defryskgil_, what packages ?07:55
fentekreelarts isn't running07:55
gil_java-package07:55
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defryskfentekreel, you need multiverse enabled07:55
cycykewlHi07:55
fentekreelok07:55
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cycykewlJust little question :) Can I found terminal theme ? and where ?07:56
defryskfentekreel do sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and put multiverse behind every universe you see07:56
fentekreelwell according to adept its instaled07:56
magicbronsonanybody here know anything about mounting usb hard drives and perhaps miss my question?07:56
defryskok07:56
fentekreelok doing that07:57
defryskfentekreel, wait07:57
fentekreelok07:57
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gil_i dont have multiuvers07:57
defryskgo to the folder where you downloaded the package to07:57
defryskgil_, then add id as i told you07:57
fentekreelwhich package07:57
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defrysklines ending with universe add multiverse07:58
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defryskfentekreel, add multiverse first07:58
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fentekreelthe where should i add it07:59
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defryskfentekreel, like so :07:59
defryskdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse07:59
defryskas an exaple07:59
defryskexample07:59
lwellsHI08:00
fentekreelok, i've not done this before08:00
fentekreelshould i uncomment them08:00
defryskfentekreel, and do that with all lines ending with universe08:00
defryskno08:00
defryskno08:00
lwellsI changed the source list, then I ran Adept to upgrade to Bagger, is this correct??08:00
defryskdo what i said dont think08:00
fentekreelok then there are no lines that are not commented that have universe after them08:00
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defryskfentekreel, uncomment the universe multiverse lines then08:01
defryskand save08:01
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lwellsHow will I know if I have updated to Dapper?08:02
fentekreelok done08:02
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defryskfentekreel, now sudo apt-get update08:02
fentekreelok08:02
defryskfentekreel, then sudo apt-get install java-package08:02
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lwellsDoes this process also update the KDE?08:03
defrysklwells, yes08:03
fentekreeldone08:03
lwellsI need to reboot to see the changes?08:03
defryskand if you install about 800 packages you are upgrading to dapper08:03
defrysklwells, might be kandy08:03
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defryskhandy08:04
lwellsKandy?08:04
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defrysknm08:04
blamhello08:04
lwellsoh ok,lol08:04
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fentekreeli installed with the dapper dvd08:04
blamcan someone help me08:04
defrysk!help08:04
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blam!help08:04
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blamthat not goina help :-P08:04
b0uncerhi again..08:04
LjLhave got a network problem. every time i boot, no DNS server is configured, and none appears in the KDE Network settings. setting up one makes everything work, but only till next reboot. adding a "nameserver" entry in /etc/network/interfaces didn't help either08:04
defrysk!anyone08:04
b0uncerhow do I convert wav -> mp3 on Kubuntu 6.06?08:04
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>08:04
defrysksorry08:04
b0uncercan't find lame anywhere08:05
jack12has somebody experience with the lenovo /IBM thinkpad x60s and the kubuntu 6.06?08:05
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defryskb0uncer,08:05
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b0uncerdefrysk?08:05
blami have the new kubuntu it wont install becuase theres some problem with my partitions.  some problem suse and fedora dont a have a problem with.08:05
defryskyou need multiverse universe08:05
blamthe installer and qtparted crash when scanning my partitions08:05
b0uncerdefrysk, I thought I had them?08:05
fentekreelok i got that java sudo finished08:05
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defryskfentekreel, now go to the folder where you downloaded the package08:06
defryskb0uncer, lame is in the repos08:06
defryskfentekreel, now fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin08:06
gil_ok thanks defrysk....i got it done08:07
b0uncerdefrysk, ok, gotta check my config file again...I think I've rewritten it twice today and still doing some typos or something.. :( too much coffee or something08:07
b0uncerthanks08:07
blami cant fdisk either it will say Unable to open /dev/hda08:07
defryskgil_, then sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update07_i386.deb08:07
fentekreeli didnt download anything ...08:07
gil_did it08:08
defryskgil_, now udo update-alternatives --config java08:08
defryskand set it to the number corresponding with sunjava08:08
fentekreeli'm confused now08:08
fentekreeljava is already installed08:08
emefarrNew Kubuntu user, trying to install perl modules, error --> "Can't test w/o successful make".  gcc and make are installed (via apt-get)08:09
defryskfentekreel, did you download the sunjava package ?08:09
fentekreelno08:09
fentekreeli'm not sure why i need it08:09
defryskwhy not ?08:09
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fentekreeljava works fine08:09
defryskfentekreel, to install java perhaps ?08:09
defryskok nm08:09
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_rabbytest08:09
fentekreeli'm not sure what java has to do with amarok not playing sound08:10
gil_how do i do update-alternatives08:10
defryskfentekreel, sorry was about gil_08:10
defryskgot confused08:10
fentekreelno worries man08:10
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defryskgil_, sudo update-alternatives --config java08:10
defryskdo that08:10
defryskand set it to the number corresponding with sunjava08:11
gil_ok done08:11
defryskgil_, that 108:11
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defryskthats08:12
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defryskok start azureus08:12
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defrysktime to walk the dog08:13
me2windefrysk: you actually own a dog or was that a pun?08:13
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defryskme2win, i own a dog08:13
defrysknot a pun08:13
me2windefrysk: hehe08:13
defryskcould be one but no08:13
defryskits ALIVE!!!08:13
defryskthe dog that is08:14
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me2winlol08:14
defryskgil_, it works now ?08:14
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defrysk*curious08:14
defryskhey we got root08:14
synmooAnyone know of a way, be it an application or config tweak, to make use of the extra buttons on my mouse?08:14
jack12does anybody have the lenovo x60s?08:14
kronozcan somone help me with installing nvidia drivers (lastest) on kubuntu dapper?08:15
TheHighChildsynmoo what mouse?08:15
synmooMS Intellimouse Explorer 208:15
gil_need to restart08:15
gil_one sec08:16
kronozbefore I have tried doing it with the nvidia installer and nvidia-xconfig but that doesn't work causing the system to hang after the bootsplash08:16
synmooTheHighChild: has two extra thumb buttons that are traditionally back and forward08:16
TheHighChildBy 'make use' do you want it to go back and forth in firefox or do you want to map them to functions?08:16
kronozand the standard/propreity driver choice in kcontrol display module won't work08:16
synmooTheHighChild: the ability to map in various ways would be nice, but my primary goal is forward and back in the browser, yes.08:16
TheHighChildsynmoo http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18464408:17
TheHighChildlet me know08:17
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kronoz!nvidia08:18
ubotuwell, nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:18
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synmooTheHighChild: Didn't think to look there. I'll check it out right now. Thanks.08:18
TheHighChildnp, I just googled 'intellimouse ubuntu' and it came up08:19
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synmooTheHighChild: Thanks for doing that as opposed to telling me to google. I appreciate it.08:19
trappistis there a way to manage what daemons start at boot that *works*?  rcconf, bum, and the think in kcontrol all pretend to work but don't remove rc*.d symlinks.08:19
fentekreelugh still not working08:20
h3sp4wnsysv-rc-conf08:20
TheHighChildnp man. I know how it is.08:20
trappists/think/thing/08:20
synmooTheHighChild: I've just come to find that many of my questions are easier answered here where as sifting through google can take time.08:20
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magicbronsonkubuntu is automounting my external usb hard drive at /media/sda. this is working fine, except it doesn't actually become aware of the contents until i click the icon that appears on my desktop (if i cd into /media/sda and ls, nothing appears). will this be fixed if i add it to my fstab?08:20
h3sp4wntrappist: sysv-rc-conf does work pretty well08:20
TheHighChildsynmoo I hear that. Google is teh sux a lot these days, IMO. I'm gonna try the link myself for my MX61008:20
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TheHighChild610*08:21
TheHighChild5*08:21
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trappisth3sp4wn: trying now, thanks08:21
TheTouristanyone know if the Epson CX4700 will work on kubuntu?08:21
noaXess!java08:21
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs08:21
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RobNycanyone here can try somethign for me, in xchat, do view > Tree and see if the colors still works for your channels08:23
MrBallZHi,08:23
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fentekreeldo i have to install something to get mp3's working?08:23
exhale!mp308:23
RobNyc!mp308:23
ubotump3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:23
HawkwindRobNyc: Works here for me though I'm using config files from another distro/system08:23
RobNycHawkwind, thats why08:23
MrBallZI want to know the name of the panel or what was it, that lets you quick lanunch upto 9 aplications, its for kde ...08:24
RobNycHawkwind, in kubuntu its the only place it doesnt work for me, it was fine in ubuntu but i've decided to start using kde again08:24
fentekreelthanks08:25
HawkwindRobNyc: Weird.  Haven't heard of that happening before08:25
trappisth3sp4wn: that's not deleting them either!08:25
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Hawkwindtrappist: !!!!!!!!08:25
barrosis bootsplash patch applied to the linux-source package?08:25
Hawkwindtrappist: It's you!08:25
trappistheya Hawkwind08:25
barrosi dont think so..08:25
Hawkwindtrappist: You're using Kubuntu now ?08:25
trappistyep08:25
Hawkwindtrappist: Nice.  I've got it on a spare box, about to leave Mandriva permanently and make Kubuntu my main OS :)08:26
madsuhmm beer08:27
trappistHawkwind: good move :)08:27
h3sp4wntrappist: It does seem to work (i.e my machine doesn't have bluez or any of that stuff running at the moment)08:28
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trappisth3sp4wn: maybe I misunderstand ubuntu's init system, then.  when I turn something like that off, I expect to find its symlink missing from the appropriate /etc/rc*.d dir08:29
MidMarkhi08:29
MidMarkis there a wiki page or something else that explains the differences between: main, restricted, universe and multiverse?08:30
HymnToLife!sections08:30
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife08:30
HymnToLifedamn, I don't rmeber the factoisd for it08:30
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HymnToLifebasically, main and universe are free software08:31
HymnToLifeand restrited/multiverse ar non-free08:31
RobNycmaybe ill try re-installing not sure08:31
defryskMidMark, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositories?highlight=%28repositories%29 (took me ten secs to find)08:31
fentekreelwoo!08:31
fentekreeli can hear music08:31
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HymnToLifelucky you08:32
trappistdefrysk: and it doesn't answer his question08:32
defryskfentekreel, what was the fix ?08:32
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fentekreelthe codecs were not installe08:32
fentekreelas far as i can tell08:32
fentekreeli've only been using ubuntu for 3 days08:32
fentekreelso i'm not the brightest08:32
defryskoic08:32
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MidMarkdefrysk: ten secs but it asks to another question...08:32
defryskuniverse = other then gnu08:33
exhaleeasyubuntu is kubuntu compitable right?08:33
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defryskmultiverse is patented and stuff08:33
fentekreelahh08:33
fentekreelok08:33
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Hawkwindexhale: There is an easykubuntu as well08:33
fentekreelnow for net beans ;)08:33
MidMarkrestricted?08:33
RobNycanyone here can try somethign for me, in xchat, do view > Tree and see if the colors still works for your channels  stats.. like it highlights certain colors when certain things go on ..08:33
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imbrandonexhale: yes08:34
defryskrestricted yes08:34
kbrooks_Hawkwind: no, tthats old08:34
defryskmain is all gnu licenced08:34
MidMarkdefrysk: restricted is what?08:34
kbrooks_defrysk: dont mislead08:34
defryskmislead ?08:34
kbrooks_defrysk: not everything in main is licensed under the GNU GPL08:34
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defryskkbrooks_, or similar to gnu08:35
Hawkwindkbrooks_: Ahhh, someone came in here talking about it yesterday.  It had an updated date of just a week or so ago08:35
kbrooks_defrysk: all of main is licensed under the GNU GPL *or* a compatible license08:35
Tallia1Kubuntu!mouse08:35
gildefrysk: thanks it works now08:35
ubotuhmm... mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev Installing extra cursor themes can be done easily with gcursor08:35
defryskkbrooks_, ok agree08:35
trappistsame with universe08:35
MidMarkalso not all in universe in NOT gnu...08:35
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gilazureus08:35
defryskgil, good :)08:35
Hawkwindtrappist: So didn't you leave Mandrake for Debian originally ?  What made you switch to *Ubuntu if I might ask ?08:35
defryskgil, now start using ktorrent08:35
gilhahah nice08:36
defryskjk08:36
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trappistHawkwind: I did, and once I figured out what ubuntu was all about, it sounded right up my alley, so I switched08:36
MidMarkfor example krusader is gnu, but it's in universe08:36
magicbronsonhelp! i'm installing sun java and adept is hanging at the step "Preparing installation of sun-java5-bin..." I clicked "show details" and the installer is prompting me to accept the license agreement, but I have no way of hitting OK!08:36
kbrooks_defrysk: a GNU GPL compatible license complies to the 4 freedoms of Free Software08:36
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gilthe only thing is that i cant see the aureus icon on the sys tray08:36
gilits onyl a blank square08:36
MidMarkmagicbronson: known issue, install it manually08:36
koshmagicbronson: cancel it and install it from the command line08:36
Hawkwindtrappist: Nice.  I'm still a bit nervous about the switch over since I don't know it all that well.  Only been using it on the spare box since June 1st when Dapper went final08:36
magicbronsonoh. ok08:36
koshmagicbronson: the sun java thing is its own world from everything else08:37
trappistHawkwind: I never looked back :)  it's nice08:37
koshmagicbronson: and it should just not be available08:37
magicbronsonshould i just close adept?08:37
koshcancel the install then close adept08:37
imbrandon!sun-java5-jre08:37
ubotusun-java5-jre is, like, totally, ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal08:37
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niGhTm4r3hey08:37
niGhTm4r3i`m trying to install xgl08:37
defrysksun-java5-jre has bugs so dont install for now08:37
MidMarkso someone that has true definitions for repositary like: restricted, universe and multiverse?08:37
magicbronsoni see no way to cancel it08:37
Hawkwindtrappist: So when I need help I know who to come running to :)  You helped me so much when I first came to Mandrake, without you, and other too, I would have been lost for sure08:38
defryskroll your own java package08:38
koshokay just tryin close adept then08:38
imbrandondefrysk: howso , works fine for most everyone08:38
defryskimbrandon, I had more then two ho got a locked apt08:38
imbrandondefrysk: please dont mislead peple08:38
niGhTm4r3but when i try doing PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/fdo/lib/pkgconfig ACLOCAL='aclocal -I /opt/fdo/share/aclocal' PATH=/opt/fdo/bin:$PATH util/modular/build.sh -m /home/<username>/cvs/Mesa -D /opt/fdo i get aclocal: configure.ac: 37: macro `AM_CFLAGS' not found in library08:38
trappistHawkwind: I'm usually around :)08:38
defryskdue to sunjava install08:38
winbondtem temperatures?08:38
winbond<winbond> i cant get the grub to install with raid008:38
imbrandondefrysk: thats an adept bug not java08:38
defryskimbrandon, pardon ?08:38
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defryskimbrandon, ok sorry08:39
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Hawkwindtrappist: One of the first things I tried after install was sudo apt-get install ipkungfu and I was so happy when I saw it say it was going to install :)08:39
defryski only heard peoplle complaining about java tho08:39
magicbronsonkosh: you said "cancel it and install from command line" - can you give me the command? sorry08:39
koshmy view on sun java is that java is not that bad of a language, I don't want to use it for any reason but it is not horribly bad but that packaging it at this point is a huge mistake until they fix their licenses08:39
imbrandondefrysk: it is with any click throu lic in adept08:39
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defryski see08:39
koshmagicbronson: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre08:39
magicbronsonthanks08:39
winbondcan somone help me our with raid?????????08:40
synmoowinbond: did you use the alt install disk?08:40
MidMarkrestricted and multiverse... what is the difference?08:40
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imbrandonMidMark: google is your friend08:40
winbondwhats a alt install disc?08:40
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defryskwinbond, the not livecd08:41
imbrandonwinbond: it is what you will need to install on raid08:41
winbondyes , its not live08:41
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defryskold stile install08:41
synmoowinbond: It's a version of the kubuntu cd that has what you need to install on a raid system08:41
niGhTm4r3any ideeas on what could be wrong?08:41
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winbondi can setup raid partitions but then when i get to install GRUB it stops08:41
imbrandonniGhTm4r3: what are you trying to do ?08:41
magicbronsoni get:08:42
magicbronsonE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:42
magicbronsonE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:42
koshadept is probably still open then08:42
magicbronsonprobably because i closed adept mid-installation08:42
magicbronsonno it's not08:42
defryskmagicbronson, installing jre ?08:42
synmoowinbond: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/08:42
koshah08:42
imbrandonwinbond: you need a /boot partition thats not on raid for grub to install and work on /dev/hda08:42
magicbronsonbest way to remove lock?08:42
synmoowinbond: scroll down to Alternate Install CD and get an ISO there that matches your system08:42
magicbronsondefrysk: yes08:42
defryskmagicbronson, sudo dpkg --configure -a08:42
koshmagicbronson: do sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock  and tell me what has that file open08:42
defryskmagicbronson, sudo dpkg --configure -a08:43
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winbondok . so how can i get the raid to work then?08:43
imbrandondefrysk: omg ,thatr wont fix the lock08:43
magicbronsondpkg    6337 root    3uW  REG   3,65    0 3680060 /var/lib/dpkg/lock08:43
defryskimbrandon, yes it does08:43
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koshmagicbronson: okay sudo kill 633708:43
magicbronsondone08:43
koshmagicbronson: and then try the install again08:43
synmoowinbond: the install will ask you if you are using RAID. tell it so and it will make the necessary config changes.08:43
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MidMarkimbrandon: not today!08:43
alfa^^but when i try doing PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/fdo/lib/pkgconfig ACLOCAL='aclocal -I /opt/fdo/share/aclocal' PATH=/opt/fdo/bin:$PATH util/modular/build.sh -m /home/<username>/cvs/Mesa -D /opt/fdo i get aclocal: configure.ac: 37: macro `AM_CFLAGS' not found in library08:43
magicbronsonshould i dpkg --configure like defrysk says?08:43
alfa^^iam having problems installing xfl08:44
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defrysksudo dpkg --configure -a08:44
koshmagicbronson: you can try that first if you want08:44
magicbronsonwhat exactly does that do?08:44
defryskunlocks the database08:44
koshmagicbronson: it tells dpkg to try and continue with configuring packages that it only partially worked though08:44
winbondso i can setup , lets say /boot and /swap as single drive partitions and rais the / and / home and it should work???08:44
magicbronsonoh, ok08:44
koshit does not unlock the database at all, it has nothing to do with locks08:44
defryskwell it fixes the prob08:45
synmoowinbond: no reason why not08:45
imbrandondefrysk: I applaud your efforts but please only awnser if you are sure it is correct as to not confuse now people08:45
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winbondok , good info , maybe ill get through it , thank you08:46
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winbondone more question ,   why wont the x start first time with x850 ati card?08:46
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winbondhow can i make it start?08:46
defryskimbrandon, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sun-java5/+bug/4727308:46
magicbronsondoes sun-java5-bin also install the browser plugin?08:46
synmoowinbond: not sure. No experience with that.08:47
winbondok , thanks a lot08:47
defryskimbrandon, got it now ?08:47
imbrandondefrysk: thats not -jre , also we were speaking of adept , it is a known issue08:47
defrysknm08:48
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imbrandondefrysk: yes i got it each and every day i'm in here helping, i've been through this 100 times08:48
imbrandonand with mornfal the adept developer08:48
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defryskmagicbronson, yes it install also the browerplug-in08:50
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dutchSeanTater, where are you in the tar heel ?08:52
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sdolnackhas anyoen gotten Xgl/Compiz to work in Kubuntu?08:54
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ubuntuhello,how can I mount a ntfs device giving normal user read access08:56
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guptanhello,how can I mount a ntfs device giving normal user read access08:56
RobNycany of u guys have XGL ?08:57
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SeanTaterdutch: Charlotte -- how did you know I was in NC?08:57
LjLhave got a network problem. every time i boot, no DNS server is configured, and none appears in the KDE Network settings. setting up one makes everything work, but only till next reboot. adding a "nameserver" entry in /etc/network/interfaces didn't help either08:58
SeanTaterRobNyc: nope -- try #ubuntu-xgl if it's still there08:58
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LjLis it just me, or the xgl rage has toned down quite a bit and quite quickly?08:58
SeanTaterguptan: add the option "user" (no quotes) to the option area in fstab for the appropriate drive.08:59
SeanTaterguptan: If you pastebin your fstab, I'll edit it for you08:59
magicbronsondefrysk: i've installed the sun-java5-* packages from the command line and restarted firefox, but the java plugin is still not installed08:59
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SeanTaterLjL: I never used it in the first place08:59
defryskmagicbronson, did you restart firefox ?09:00
SeanTaterLjL: I'm waiting until KDE409:00
trix`GIf I use a standard install of kubuntu with my GeForce 7800GT will I be using inferior drivers because of the "only-free" mindset of the ubuntu distro?09:00
SeanTaterAnybody have any ideas as to how long until KDE4?09:01
defryskmagicbronson,  sudo update-alternatives --config java set it to /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java (option 1)09:01
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LjLSeanTater: i did give it a try, but i never really thought about *keeping* it for a minute... at least until it's way more mature09:01
chavoSeanTater, at least 6-8 months for the first previews09:01
SeanTatertrix`G: By default, yes, but I have a NVIDIA and it's fairly simple to add the other driver.09:01
drayenhow do you hiberate a laptop from kbuntu?09:01
guptanSeanTater: I'm on live kubuntu, i want to write a iso image which is in my NTFS partition09:02
chavoxgl works perfectly here, in fact it fixes a bug with geforce 6600 cards and anialiasing09:02
SeanTater!nvidia09:02
ubotunvidia is, like, Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:02
trix`GSeanTater: By fairly simple do you mean simply download the other driver from nvidia's website? Or is it located somewhere else?09:02
SeanTatertrix`G: just read what ubotu said,09:02
defryskmagicbronson, got it ?09:03
trix`Gahh thanks09:03
SeanTatertrix`G: that's how I got it to work09:03
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magicbronsondefrysk: the only sun option was option 3: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java09:03
guptanSeanTater: is there any method to mount NTFS without restarting, I can do it as sudo but then normal user won't have read permission09:03
defryskmagicbronson, in your case use nr3 :)09:04
aro-ronanyone able to give me a hand adding KDE to my Ubuntu install? I am having some rather interesting problems when I try it the normal way09:04
magicbronsondefrysk: that still didn't install the browser plugin09:04
SeanTaterguptan: if you added the user option -- it whould matter who mounted it, excapt that only root has permission to mount09:04
defryskmagicbronson, i rolled my own si i had a different nr09:04
defryskso*09:04
trix`Gis kubuntu a decent distro for someone who mostly plays games (Cedega) and movies/music in all kinds of formats? (meaning, dvd,divx,xvid,mp3,etc)09:04
SeanTaterguptan: you can re-mount it without restarting09:04
magicbronsondefrysk: sorry, what's si and nr?09:04
trix`GI'm just thinking about switching from mandriva09:05
SeanTatertrix`G: kubuntu does not excel in either09:05
magicbronsondefrysk: oh, si = so, and nr = number?09:05
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defrysksi should be so and nr is number09:05
SeanTatertrix`G: For cedega -- you'll have to ask, it;s not free, so it's not available in apt09:05
magicbronsondefrysk: :0) as for the browser plugin?09:05
defryskmagicbronson, ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ |grep java09:06
trix`GSeanTater: Well linux itself doesn't really excel in either, I mean from the viewpoint of switching from other distro's, namely Mandriva09:06
SeanTatertrix`G: For the codecs, (MP3, etc), say !restricted and ubotu will tell you09:06
magicbronsondefrysk: nada09:06
frank__trix`G: movies music work great if you install the codecs needed. cedega works as well as on other distibutions I think09:06
guptanSeanTater: can u tell me that /etc/fstab line, so that I can add it and trying mounting drive09:06
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trix`GSeanTater: and as for Cedega I'm already a TransGaming subscriber so that's not a problem09:06
SeanTatertrix`G: if you watch movies in random formats -- you may not gave perfect mileage09:06
AshexAnyone familiar with proftpd?09:06
defryskmagicbronson, then your java is not installed I guess09:06
magicbronsondefrysk: java is installed but the plugin is not09:06
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SeanTaterguptan: not without you telling me what's in /etc/fstab (say !pastebin)09:07
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frank__magicbronson: did you install sun-java5-plugin?09:07
defryskmagicbronson, than we have to make a symbolic link09:07
AshexWhever I upload files, it sets the permissions on the files to nobody can execute them and the folders to the owner can't execute them09:07
guptan!pastebin09:07
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .09:07
magicbronsondefrysk: no, i didn't see it! sorry09:07
defryskfrank__, that is needed to ?09:07
SeanTatertrix`G: it may still not work - lat's see if ubotu knows anything09:07
SeanTater!cedega09:07
ubotuTo install cedega please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega09:07
guptanSeanTater: I'm running kubuntu Live cd09:07
defryskmagicbronson, do what frank says09:08
frank__defrysk: you need it for java to work in firefox09:08
guptanSeanTater: there is just one line there in /etc/fstab for swap entry09:08
magicbronsondefrysk: just did, that'll fix it :)09:08
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SeanTaterguptan: fine -- just open /etc/fstab, and paste the contents into the pastebin -- than give me the link, so I can see it09:08
defrysksorry09:08
jpetsowhen everything else seems to work but Xorg doesn't display anything (back lights off), can it be a problem that the dapper desktop cd is for i386 and the laptop is an amd64?09:08
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defryskjpetso, set the driver in xorg.conf to vese09:09
defryskvesa that is09:09
SeanTatertrix`G: okay -- these two pages should be all you need to know:09:09
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SeanTaterubotu tell trix`G about restricted09:09
SeanTaterubotu tell trix`G about cedega09:09
jpetsodefrysk: thx09:09
guptanSeanTater: thanks, I was just looking for this line: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=022209:10
defryskjpetso, there seemt to be a bug with lapops ati and lcd screens in dapper09:10
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defrysklaptops09:10
guptanSeanTater: and it worked, and thanks again09:10
trix`GSeanTater: Thanks!09:10
jpetsoyes, it's an ati09:10
defryskmy typing is getting horrible09:10
dutchSeanTater, it shows when you log in   :)09:10
defryskjpetso, change the driver to vesa09:10
trix`Gsorry for being a newbie and asking stupid questions09:10
defryskshould do the trick then09:10
jpetsodefrysk: ok09:10
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SeanTaterguptan: good! although I have no clue what you did -- but if it works, more power to you!09:10
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dutchSeanTater, and I'm over east of Raleigh09:11
SeanTatertrix`G: Good!09:11
SeanTaterdutch: I've been there once -- it's roads are SOOO simple in comparison to charlotte!09:11
dutchtry driving a truck :)09:11
guptanSeanTater: i just followed instruction here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only09:11
SeanTaterguptan: okay -- how about telling ubotu that09:12
SeanTater!ntfs09:12
ubotuto automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>09:12
SeanTater!winfstab09:12
ubotuin fstab it should look **like** this:: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       009:12
SeanTaterah-ha! next time someone asks me, I'll say !winfstab instead09:12
guptanSeanTater: oh great, i was wondering how to do it from console without actually changing fstab09:13
XVampireXWHAT THE FUCK! Microsoft acting up again!09:13
katakombiisnt there captive support in ubuntu?09:13
XVampireXhttp://join.msn.com/spaces/overview09:13
SeanTaterXVampireX: what about it?09:13
XVampireXSee the image?09:14
chavokatakombi, no it's not in09:14
SeanTaterkatakombi: "captive support"?09:14
LjLwith breezy and kde 3.5.2 (and previous), the lines saying "All applications", "Actions" etc under the K menu were displayed in a "flat" style. so was the highlighted item in the taskbar. i think (not sure) this was enabled by an option in Lipstick's configuration, but i can't seem to find a way to make it work as before wih dapper and kde 3.5.309:14
katakombicaptive - its ntfs rw support09:14
synmoothe logo09:14
katakombiusing wine and the ntfs win driver09:14
XVampireXsynmoo: Yes...09:14
chavokatakombi, I've heard it's gotten real good, I'm going to install it in a little while09:15
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SeanTaterkatakombi: sorry -- never heard of it09:15
chavoI don't care if it messes up my partition09:15
katakombichavo: is it a licensing issue?09:15
synmooLoioks remarkably like ubuntu.09:15
XVampireXsynmoo: They stole it09:15
chavokatakombi, yes and a stability issue I assume09:15
katakombii'd really like to have it09:15
SeanTaterXVampireX: okay -- is that anything like crystalsvg?09:15
katakombii didnt know its ustable yet09:16
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XVampireXNo idea, I don't care, they stole it, I'm gonna hate microsoft now >_<09:16
synmooVampire: Really? Perhaps you've never seen the other hundreds of logos that look similar09:16
chavokatakombi, I downloaded last night but havent gotten around to installing it yet09:16
trix`Gubotu, restricted?09:16
uboturumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats09:16
XVampireXI'm gonna send them a hate email09:17
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SeanTaterXVampireX:Isn't that illegal somewhere?09:17
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SeanTatertrix`G: don't pick up my habits -- say /msg ubotu restricted instead09:17
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XVampireXSeanTater: I'll show them illegal09:18
SeanTaterXVampireX: I bet they met millions of hate mails -- yours will be spam --calssified out too most likely09:18
trix`GSeanTater: Oh, right, sorry09:18
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SeanTatertrix`G: that's fine -- I do  it09:19
yonkeltronif kompare doesn't work, what might i need to install to get that working?09:19
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SeanTateryonkeltron: apt-get -f install09:19
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trix`GSeanTater: problem is I'm using Peekko, so I can't really see msgs and I can't join more then 1 channel at a time09:20
yonkeltronSeanTater: no dice09:20
SeanTatertrix`G: okay -- then go ahead -- just try not to ask too many at a time09:20
SeanTateryonkeltron: "dice?"09:21
trix`GSeanTater: Agreed, just didn't get a chance to copy/paste the link when you said it09:21
ataraxishi, knetworkmanager cannot connect to a wep wlan, doing it manually with iwconfig eth2 key s:<KEY> works, any ideas?09:21
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SeanTatertrix`G: look -- you don;t have to explain -- I;m not an op and I don't plan to be -- In fact by saying it, I might be considered hypocritical09:22
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SeanTaterataraxis: how often do you change networks?09:22
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yonkeltronSeanTater: it didn't work. there is some kpart that i need. regardless, kompare doesn't depend on it so it's not installed09:23
ataraxisSeanTater: not often09:23
yonkeltronSeanTater: it give me an error that it can't fine KompareViewPart09:23
SeanTateryonkeltron: hum -- can;t seem to do anything -- will diff do?09:24
yonkeltronSeanTater: i'm using a gnome app called meld for now09:24
yonkeltronSeanTater: kdiff3 is not as nice09:24
SeanTaterataraxis: Hum -- well -- never used knetworkmanager -- try asking in #ubuntu09:24
chrome_ithello09:24
yonkeltronchrome_it: hi09:25
yonkeltronchrome_it: any luck?09:25
ataraxisk, thx09:25
trix`GSeanTater: I don't have to do many things I do like put out my cig when my recently-quit-smoking friend comes over, but I do it anyway because I am full of this annoying tendancy called manners09:25
yonkeltronchrome_it: with suspend i mean?09:25
chrome_ityes, now it works09:25
SeanTateryonkeltron: okay -- there's nothing wrong with an occasional gtk+ app -- but try asking around occasionally and see if it happens elsewhere09:25
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chrome_itI recompiled the kernel09:25
yonkeltronSeanTater: if it does, i'll file a bug09:25
yonkeltronchrome_it: and?09:25
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chrome_itsuspend to disk works perfectly09:26
yonkeltronchrome_it: does it come back up ok?09:26
flo_where are usualy located the icons that a software installs with a normal deb package?09:26
chrome_ityonkeltron: I'm using my desktop now, if you want I can send you the .config file09:27
yonkeltronchrome_it: i noticed the error only seems to happen when x is running09:27
yonkeltronchrome_it: join #ubuntu-laptop please. the devs want your input09:27
SeanTaterflo_: if they are not in the kmenu, then right click the K, select menu editor, click save, and quit, see if they are there.09:27
chrome_ityes, a moment09:27
trix`GQuestion: If games movies and music are my main interest in linux, is it worth getting the x64 release for my amd64 or would I be better served with the 32-bit version09:28
trappisttrix`G: 3209:28
chrome_ithow to set the size of background image in a kdm theme?09:28
chrome_itit doesnt fit very well09:29
trappisttrix`G: if you're going to be running wine or playing movies that require w32-codecs, you're going to need a 32bit chroot anyway09:29
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trix`Gtrappist: Ahh I see, thanks!09:29
trappisttrix`G: I run 64bit but I run cedega, xine, mplayer, etc. from a 32bit chroot09:29
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dmb062082hey is there a net install cd by any chance?09:29
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trix`Gdoes kubuntu support RAID?09:30
noaXessi got following error if i want run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.. Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:30
dmb062082Also I had many problems using kubuntu with xserver-xorg i thought so I gave fedora a wack... and everything seems fine, can I just copy my xserver-xorg config and use that under kubuntu?09:30
chavodmb062082, no09:30
trappisttrix`G: yes09:31
noaXessa last install is broken.. how can i repair that?09:31
defrysknoaXess, ask imbrandon09:31
trix`Ghow about customized kernels?09:31
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imbrandonnoaXess make sure you dont have adept or synaptic or other package manager open first09:32
imbrandontrix`G: ye and yes09:32
imbrandonerr yes and yes09:32
noaXessimbrandon: all pkg managers are closed.. only konsole..09:32
chrome_itnobody can give me an advice about the kdm theme background?09:33
trix`Gthanks!09:33
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imbrandonnoaXess run "ps ax|grep dpkg"09:33
defryskchrome_it, if someone knows (s)he wil answer09:33
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chrome_itdefrysk: ok09:34
stoftLooking for tips: I want to set up an anacronjob to update packages (security-fix/trivial-only) and piping to a file. So far I have a small script that pipes to a log file under /var/log. Does this sound like a good solution or are there any special details I should think about?09:34
noaXessimbrandon: there is something.. a hanging package..09:34
imbrandonnoaXess then sudo kill -9 <pid number>09:35
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imbrandonnoaXess when thats killed run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to finish configuuring what dident install, then try dist-upgrade again09:36
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stoftchrome_it: I set mine "manually" editing the image in an image editor.09:37
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noaXessimbrandon: ok done that.. all ok.. :) thks09:37
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imbrandonnp noaXess09:37
xorphadoes anyone know if kubuntu supports knetworkmanager like in SuSE?09:38
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imbrandonxorpha: its not installed by default but you can install it from the repos yes09:38
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defryskxorpha, it does09:38
xorphathat is excellent imbrandon - i need it for WPA-PSK support at user level and this has been one of the things stopping me from moving from SuSE to kubuntu09:39
defryskxorpha, to check you can always do apt-cache search <package>09:39
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xorphathanks defrysk - will try that once the i've got this iso burnt09:39
imbrandonthats if your running kubuntu already, if not check packages.ubuntu.com ;)09:40
defryskow ist not installed yet hehe09:40
noaXess!flash09:40
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:40
kronozdoes anyone how to add the current gpg key cipherfunk repo?09:40
kronozi get a gpg key missing error from apt-get update about cipherfunk.org09:40
defryskkronoz, download the gpg key09:41
xorphawell i installed it about 6 months ago, but went with SuSE - 10.1 has been a bit of a dissapointment so going to try 6.0609:41
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imbrandonkronoz: it should have instructions on cipherfunk.org site09:41
xorphai liked kubuntu when i tried it last time, but wpa-psk was difficult to get going09:41
kronozdefrysk: i downloaded Release.gpg but it would not add09:41
defrysksudo apt-key add blah.gpg09:41
imbrandonxorpha: yea you shouldent run into any problems as long as your card works09:41
xorphaimbrandon, yeah should be fine as it is intel 2200bg which is well supported in ubuntu and SuSE09:42
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xorphaimbrandon, really looking forward to having a pure KDE distro09:43
defryskkronoz, as imbrandon instuctions should be there09:43
defrysk+ said09:43
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kronozyes i'm looking atm09:44
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nekomatahas anyone else here found that kuickshow refuses to install under dapper?09:48
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bernierhi09:49
element4hi ;)09:49
bernieri sucessfully installed a .deb package but now, how do I run that program? :P09:49
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element4Which program is it?09:49
defryskbernier, what package is it ?09:49
bernierviosualboyadvance09:49
berniervisualboyadvance*09:50
defrysk?09:50
defryskwhats that ?09:50
berniera game boy emulator09:50
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defryskah09:50
synmoohahah I thought it was going to be something FAR wrose.09:50
bernierlol09:50
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defrysklol09:50
bernierits for my bro :P09:50
defrysksynmoo, i wonderd too hehe09:50
element4LOL09:51
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synmooI glace out of the corner of my eye and see 'visualboydance'09:51
bernierso do u guys know? im completely new to linux =/09:51
bernierloll09:51
defryskbernier, key in visual and hit the tab button twice09:51
element4-->> in the konsol09:52
bernierhaaaa ic :p09:52
defrysksee anything familiair ?09:52
bernierwait09:52
defrysklol09:52
synmooYeah you have to tell him where to touch the boy.09:53
bernierHmm it doesnt do anyting09:53
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bernierthere's the terminal icon whioch changes to a bell09:53
bernierbut nothing else :p09:53
defryskbernier, now try vis and hit tab twice09:53
berniera huge list appeared09:54
synmoobernier: one of those is your executable.09:54
defryskbernier, hehe09:54
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defryskvisgb or someting probably09:54
synmoobernier: but if you run the wrong one, your printer will start spewing NAMBLA propaganda... so choose wisely.09:55
defryskvisgba09:55
defrysklol09:55
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bernieri dunno which one to choose.. there's this at the end but its .deb09:55
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berniervisualboyadvance_1.7.2-4build1_i386.deb09:55
bernier.Xauthority09:55
bernier.xsession-errors09:55
bernierbernier@bernier-desktop:~$ visudo09:55
defryskwhat the command to find out where its installed ?09:56
element4witch or something09:56
defryskanyway , gonna watch some tv dvd09:56
defryskbye all09:56
bernierbye09:56
TheHighChildsynmoo did you get your mouse buttons working? Those settings worked for my MX51009:57
synmooTheHighChild: Yes. worked well. However, no side scroll. :-)09:58
TheHighChildsynmoo side scroll?09:58
synmooTheHighChild: On this particular mouse, you can tilt the wheel to the left or right to side scroll.09:58
TheHighChildahh, I see.09:59
synmoosudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:59
synmooha I was wondering why that wasn't showing up in the terminall09:59
TheHighChildlol09:59
synmooI'm going to tell it that it's a 9 button and map 8 and 910:00
dodo|kanotix_hey guys :)10:00
synmooI doubt that will work since windows controlled the side scroll10:00
synmooI don't expect firefox to recognize it10:00
dodo|kanotix_i just downloadede open office for my linux. is it the .deb file, i have to install?10:01
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TheHighChildcd into the directory where you installed it and do a 'dpkg -i packagename.deb'10:02
TheHighChildI'd suggest downloading it through apt though10:03
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fentekreelwow cedega is a strange animal10:03
_al_hi10:03
_al_has anyone problems with dapper's wlan support?10:03
fentekreelhopefully civ4 is playable when it's done installing10:03
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puckmanSo everyone running dapper then?10:06
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puckmanLooks very nice but re-introduced a bug that I had with 5.10 :(10:06
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yonkeltrondoes the dapper kernel have inotify in it?10:07
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katakombi_al_ wlassistant sometimes fails. but the network connections is working anyways10:07
_al_katakombi: I have orinoco/lucent wireless card10:07
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puckmanAnyone here have random system lockups?10:08
_al_when I plugged it in there appeared two wlan interfaces10:08
puckmanWhere the whole gui just freezes?10:08
cbohello all. does someone know of a krfb replacement? it uses 3.3 protocolol which is almost unusable, Xvnc4 seems not to export current display, i need it to offer remote help10:08
_al_I didn't get work none of them10:08
cboprotoco... lol!10:08
_al_but when I compiled kernel on my own, I get this card to work10:08
_al_this card uses module orinoco_cs10:09
_al_and before this card has worked perfectly10:09
uniqyonkeltron: yes. I and D notify.10:09
_al_because it's well supported10:09
_al_I suppose that there is something weird in dapper10:10
_al_in this situation10:10
yonkeltronuniq: excellent. how best to setup beagle then?10:10
_al_maybe in kernel patches?10:10
bleakedwhere is the Go menu on konq?10:10
_al_because compiling new kernel solved problem10:10
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beemerafternoon all10:11
uniqyonkeltron: no clue, never used beagle. sorry.10:11
_al_using own kernel, there appeared only one interface10:11
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_al_and using kubuntu dapper's own there were two interfaces10:11
iNiku_al_: many card drivers do that and it should be okay, *but* /etc/iftab can cause problems10:11
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iNiku_al_: you could try commenting out that card's entry in there10:11
_al_this card driver hasn't done that before10:12
sireliahwhy doesnt kubuntu come with a security update program like ubuntu? do i need to update my operating system through adept manager?10:12
_al_iNiku: I haven't dapper installed on this laptop anymore10:12
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iNiku_al_: ah, ok then10:12
iNiku_al_: I had that same problem with my old cisco card10:13
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_al_ok10:13
iNiku_al_: or, something that resembles your problem10:13
beemerHi all.  I'm having some issues with the dapper-security and dapper-updates.  I get a GPG BADSIG error.  I'm not sure where to get the keys for these repsoitories.  Any ideas?10:13
_al_I'm wondering why this happens only on dapper10:13
_al_and other kernel resolves problem10:14
sireliahhello? how do i update kubuntu?10:14
beemersudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade10:14
kronozsireliah, when updates are ready an adept updatyer icon will appear in you system tray10:15
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kronozsireliah, click it and follow it through10:15
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sireliahkronoz what program is in charge of that?10:16
kronozsireliah, adept10:16
kronozsireliah, there are a few ways to update10:16
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sireliahwell how to i just update the security patches through adept10:17
flo_there is any repo wher i can find this lib. :libQt3Support_debug.so.4 ?10:18
kronozsireliah, open adept, kmenu > system > adedpt > enter password > fetch updates > apply10:18
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kronozsireliah, o kmenu > system > konsole > sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade10:18
sireliahkronoz i know that, but how do i filter to show ONLY the security updates10:18
ad3anyone else having issues with drake and Intel 945GNT?10:19
ad3video issues, that is10:19
ad3my mouse is a large square block, and yes I added Option "sw_cursor" to xorg.conf10:19
sireliahi just installed this, and its not finding any security updates. is that possible? something must be configured wrongly10:19
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kronozsireliah, if you haven't enabled any extra repos the only updates will be security10:19
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beemersireliah, try "sudo apt-get update" from the command line - see if there are any errors when fetching updates from the repositories10:20
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kronozsireliah, when you install there should be 8 updates, and an adept updater icon in the system tray that will apply them10:20
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cbohello all. does someone know of a krfb (vncserver) replacement? krfb uses 3.3 protocol which is almost unusable, and Xvnc4 seems not to export current display, i need it to offer remote help10:21
beemerthat's my issue - badsig error trying to fetch updates from the dapper-security repo10:21
uniqcbo: try rfb? (no clue about protocol versions, but it's an alternative)10:22
sireliahbecause when i installed this i was not connected to the internet, all my repos were disabled10:22
sireliahi turned all the non-universe/multiverse on10:22
ryanakcagrrr! I'm at 99.71% done downloading a copy of kubuntu desktop for my teacher, and then the torrent is marked as "stall" by KTorrent, and has been for the past 12 or so hours10:22
sireliahhowever, it still does not find security updates10:22
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DaSkreechpuckman: I do10:24
cbouniq: i've tried it, it's 3.3 too..10:24
puckmanDaSkreech: random freezes?10:24
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DaSkreechpuckman: yeah10:25
DaSkreechThe GUI freezes but the mouse still moves10:25
puckmanDaSkreech: I had the same in 5.1010:25
puckmanand after a few updates it just went away10:25
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DaSkreechpuckman: Waht Video Card?10:26
puckmanI can't pin point it, sometimes I can run for a whole 24 hours and other times I have 3 freezes in one hour10:26
puckmanreally shitty one that is standard on the IBM X2410:26
puckman8mb ati one10:26
DaSkreechHmm I'm ATI as well10:27
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puckmanI get 1fps with glxgears10:28
h3sp4wnAti is ok with the older stuff (just don't use fglrx)10:28
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puckmanWeird, I only get this with kubuntu, SUSE and Redhat seem to have the right drivers10:29
koos_yes, I've read it10:29
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h3sp4wnchange the driver "ati" line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to driver "radeon" (backup first incase it doesn't work)10:29
DaSkreechYeah me too wish I could wrap my head around it10:30
lwellsThis update to Dapper seems to take forever10:30
DaSkreechWhy do I have kompose?10:30
DaSkreechI never use it :-(10:30
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DaSkreech It needs to be Accelerated10:30
puckmanlwells: be carefull, the update friend my install, had to do a clean installl after that10:30
lwellsI have been doing this update for like 2 hours now10:30
puckmanlong live backups10:30
bachstudieslwells: I'm doing the same thing right now10:30
puckmanlol10:30
ryanakcawhat kind of video card? fglrx works fine here...10:30
puckmanfriend /fried10:31
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DjDarkmanhy ,I use kubuntu ,but I like to use gnome commander instead of krusader ,but how do I configure the file type assosiations?10:31
lwellsi have done back up already of my files10:31
bachstudieslwells: lots of setting up.......setting up.......and rebuilding databases10:31
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beemeranyone know how to update the GPG keys for the security and updates repo's?10:31
lwellsI did not want to do a clean installl, cause I wanted to keep everything configured the same way10:32
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DaSkreechlwells: Updating to Dapper?10:32
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DaSkreechryanakca: I'm not fglrx'ed10:32
ryanakcalwells: go for a walk.. it'll be a while...10:32
lwellsYes10:32
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DaSkreechTake the time to read our handy dandy brochure :)10:32
lwellsI walked, did homework, fed the dog, cured cancer already10:33
ryanakcaA long while... don't forget, it has to download every app you have installed, check them, unpack them, install them, update kmenu, update settings... etc, etc, etc10:33
lwellsBecuase they need to be updated for Dapper?10:34
h3sp4wnryanakca: Do you ever get lockups on reboot with fglrx ?10:34
ryanakcayeah...10:34
ryanakcah3sp4wn: haven't... yet10:34
ryanakcalwells: you ARE using aptitude and not apt to upgrade, right?10:35
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lwellsI am using Adept10:35
h3sp4wnryanakca: I kept on getting them constantly (probably due to having an nvidia motherboard and ati card) But 2.6.16 fixed it10:36
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lwellsshy10:36
lwellswhy10:36
ryanakca:)10:36
ryanakcabecause aptitudes keeps logs of your changes... it's... "safer"...10:36
lwellsSo changing in Adept is safer then?10:37
katakombiis ubuntu getting the 2.6.16/17 kernels into the repositories? Sources would be enough as well...10:37
rashkaeHow can I start an Expert install from the Kubuntu All install CD (Dapper?),,, GRUB is not working on my system10:38
uniqkatakombi: no, not dapper anyway.10:38
rashkaeThe Dapper Help says to type expert at the prompt, but there is no boot: prompt anymore10:38
h3sp4wnrashkae: us ethe alternative cd10:38
rashkaeI am using the alternative CD10:38
katakombiuniq: is there a way to apply the very same patches to a vanilla kernel that ubuntu uses? and building the restricted module package?10:39
rashkaeh3sp4wn, I am using the alternative CD, I get the text mode install, but there i sno boot prompt, only a very limited menu.10:39
DaSkreechis there a recue mode on the menu?10:39
rashkaeDaSkreech, Yes, try that?10:40
DaSkreechOh I was just interested10:40
DaSkreechwhat are you trying to do?10:40
lwellsI changed the source listing to Dapper and then used Adept to make the updates, this is good or not10:40
h3sp4wnrashkae: I don't have the alternative cd here but the netboot/mini.iso image has a boot prompt - I just pressed f3 and then server was listed as an option for boot:10:41
rashkaeDaSkreech, I'm trying to install with LILO instead of Grub,, it seems as though grub insalled by Ubuntu doesn't support JFS10:41
DaSkreechlwells: It's fine10:41
DaSkreechrashkae: Ah Of course10:42
rashkaeh3sp4wn, If I press f3, it display a help message that gives me all the options, but it doesn't offer a boot prompt.10:42
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lwellsOk, I just worry when doing an update of the OS10:42
Ryoga85does anyone remember me complaining about a sound problem?10:42
h3sp4wnrashkae: easiest way would be install grub into a 100mb ext3 or ext2 partition mounted as /boot10:42
DaSkreechwell as I recall (this was with the beta CD) it would tell me that it couldn't use grub and offer lilo10:42
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: i think the issue is on first boot you can't get in10:42
rashkaeh3sp4wn, Yeah, a seperate boot partition, bring on 1996!!! (I would really love just to get LILO working, personally)10:43
h3sp4wnDo you think so I think grub is vastly superior to lilo10:43
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DaSkreechrashkae: I know what I would do but I don't know if that helps you10:43
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sorush20hi guys I'm using kubuntu I wanted to know who I can get back the desktops in my task bar?10:44
rashkaeDaSkreech, Installing Dapper with JFS is deffinatley broken now.10:44
rashkaeDaSkreech, What would you do?10:44
DaSkreechI'd install like normal then reboot and drop into rescue mode then install lilo10:44
chavosorush20, add the desktop preview and pager applet10:45
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rashkaeh3sp4wn, Grub has many nice features, I admit, but LILO is still much better in some circumstances.. for example,  systems with SATA and IDE drives, where HD0 will change depending on whether your booting from a SATA drive or the CD-ROM drive10:45
h3sp4wnI would just install grub and my kernels to the first ide harddrive then root of the sata10:46
rashkaeDaSkreech, Yeah, that would work, PITA extraordinair.... no one knows the secret way to launch the Expert install mode ? or was that depricated (and help files not updated?)10:46
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sorush20chavo: thanks10:47
DaSkreechrashkae: Gimmie a second to find out10:47
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lwellsit looks like it finished how do i know if it worked10:48
h3sp4wnrashkae: Go into the install normally press escape thn press execute a shell and you get busybox (incidently I busybox in my /boot partition)10:48
DaSkreechlwells: reboot :)10:48
lwellsk10:48
lwellsand cross my fingers?10:48
DaSkreechlwells: Hope you have a nother internet enabled device with IRC in case something goes horribly wrong10:48
Ryoga85I solved my sound problem :)10:48
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uniqkatakombi: getting the patches should be easy, applying them to another kernel will probably not go cleanly. But you could try.10:50
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h3sp4wnkatakomb: which particular module do you want the patches from if its fglrx you can just apply the highmem.h patch from the ubuntu version and it stops the screen flicker10:52
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noaXesswhere is the best place to install third party softwaare? /usr/local or /opt??10:53
WesComo me conecto con un canal en espaol10:53
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DaSkreechnoaXess: check the LSB10:53
DaSkreechubotu: tell Wes about es10:54
h3sp4wnnoaXess: If its from source /usr/local usually if its binary /opt (thats what I do anyway)10:54
Ryoga85Wes: #kubuntu-es10:54
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Ryoga85Wes: type that: /join #kubuntu-es10:54
lwellsok rebooted, but not sure it is Dapper?10:55
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lwellsIt shows KDE 3.5 on the desktop, is that the latest version?10:55
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h3sp4wnIwells : 3.5.3 is the latest I think10:56
WesThanks Ryoga8510:56
lwellsHow can I check if I am running dapper now10:57
kronozlwells, uname -r, if it say 2.6.15-*** you are probably running dapper10:57
nico8481hi10:58
uniqlwells: in konsole 'cat /etc/issue.net' will give you the version.10:58
DaSkreechrashkae: Try hitting F6 twice10:58
lwellsshows 6.06 LTS10:59
uniqthat's dapper :)10:59
rashkaeDaSkreech, Ok, a sec while I try10:59
lwellscool it worked10:59
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DaSkreechlwells: lsb_release -a10:59
uniqcool. window shortcuts. :)11:00
uniqalt+i now pops up my irc window.11:00
Wes#kubuntu-es11:00
rashkaeDaSkreech, Allelujah Jaffar, thank you :).. (Help files need updating, but I'll take the small victories)11:01
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DaSkreechrashkae: Wiki it then :)11:01
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DaSkreechrashkae: Glad to help :)11:02
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Desho_O11:02
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DeshHello, how can I control my dpi?11:04
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DeshI want to make the dpi 72, not 96.11:04
katakombiDesh: if you use 'nvidia' theres a xorg.conf option11:05
DeshNo I'm on ati.11:05
DeshI remember on Breezy I made this file, Xserver I think, and I added something.11:05
katakombiin that case you must set displaywidth / displaysize in the screen section11:05
katakombii cannot recall the exact name of the parameter, but 'man xorg.conf' may help11:06
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katakombiyou simply give your display size in millimetres11:06
DeshOk, thanks.11:06
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uniqdesh: you can force the DPI in KDM config.11:09
DeshWhere is that?11:10
uniqif i recall corectly.11:10
uniq /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc11:10
DeshI remember on Breezy, the file Xserver in the home folder, all I did was make it and add some string11:10
DeshLet me try that11:10
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uniqdesh: ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp11:11
Desho_O11:11
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uniqdesh: add '-dpi something' as in '-dpi 100' for example.11:11
uniqServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 10011:12
uniqwould do..11:12
uniqi guess.11:12
tom__Great11:12
uniqI have not tested this lately. So I do not know if this works or not. But you could give it a try.11:12
Deshbash: tcp: command not found11:12
uniqdesh: what are you doing? Edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc with your favourite editor. Go to line 462.11:13
nico8481anyone using amaroK 1.4 from czessi.net ? do you have a problem with the "now playing: ..." area (in the lower left part of the window) displaying html tags too?11:14
uniqdesh: change: "ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp" to "ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 100" - given you want 100 DPI, change the number if you want something else.11:14
DaSkreechIs there a Delphi dev toolset in the Ubuntu Repos?11:14
RadiantFirenico8481: why didn't you use the amarok from the kubuntu repos?11:14
nico8481RadiantFire: cause it's not 1.4 i think11:15
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DeshSame.11:15
DaSkreechnico8481: It is11:15
bernierhi11:15
RadiantFirenico8481: it is, check the main kubuntu page11:15
RadiantFireI've had no problems11:15
bernierhow the heck do I save the file i changed with nano in konsole?11:15
RogueJediXA lil' help. I just installed apt-build and it's asking me what architecture I have11:15
chavobernier, alt-x11:15
RogueJediXEr, CPU architecture, that is11:16
bernierhaaaaa11:16
chavoctrl-x sorry11:16
bernierthats what the ^x stand for11:16
bernierthanks :P11:16
chavoctrl yes11:16
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chavonico8481, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php11:16
nico8481RadiantFire:  ah... dunno then... heared about czessi version in some kubuntu wiki/doc where they said the best option to get amarok up & running with all the plugins and media codecs and everything was to install that version... now what is true...?11:16
nico8481RadiantFire: gonna try to find the doc again11:16
nico8481thx chavo11:16
uniqroguejedix: you can find out with 'arch' in konsole.11:17
RogueJediXuniq: Thanks, but all I have are options like K6, k6-2, k6-3, opteron, athlon, etc.11:18
DaSkreechnico8481: Probably true11:18
rashkaeWill compiling a 32-bit Mplayer on AMD64 Ubuntu be a nightmare, or can I get away with just -m32 :)11:18
nico8481DaSkreech: what do you mean? :)11:18
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uniqrashkae: you probably need to make a 32bit chroot.11:18
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rashkaeIck,,, well, thanks.11:18
RogueJediXNever mind, I got it11:19
uniqgreat :)11:20
nico8481RadiantFire: ah i remember, the amarok version included in dapper (that i had just installed) wouldn't play mp3 *nor ogg's* whatever plugins/codecs i installed11:20
RogueJediXNow I'm wondering why it's downloading stuff like libc6-dev-amd64, when my processor is 32-bit11:20
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RadiantFirenico8481: it plays ogg by default11:20
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RadiantFireyou just have to intall libxine-extracodecs11:20
nico8481RadiantFire: yup, but it didn't11:20
RadiantFirethats wierd11:21
desarrollo02hi wes11:21
nico8481damn, where did i find that doc again?11:21
uniqnico8481: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10 - that's for breezy, but i don't think the package names have changed.11:22
desarrollo02wes is  a guy gay11:22
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uniqnico8481: if libxine-extracodecs doesn't do it you probably need libmad011:22
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uniqnico8481: and nevermind that url i pasted, the packagenames have changed.11:22
Rafahow can i do to configure my pen drive?11:23
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Rafaplease help me11:23
Rafaim using ubuntu 5.1011:23
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Rafaanybody can help me?11:25
_henryHelp, I'm having trouble with a new install of 6.06 recognizing my floppy drive and a usb flash drive11:25
Wesjajajaja11:25
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WesMi pana configuras la carpeta ftab11:27
Rafaexcuse me. I dont speak spanish wes11:27
DaSkreechnico8481: easiest way to get it installed with everything11:27
uniqwes: english please :)11:27
r0xzanyone happen to know a good and EASY (my parents...) CMS like "hippo" but then installable with shell access?11:27
nico8481DaSkreech: so you know that repos? do you use it?11:27
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r0xz*without11:27
WesMy friend configure the ftab folder11:28
Rafathank you man!11:28
Rafanow. How the fuck can i do that11:28
Wesin /etc/11:28
Wesyour welcom11:29
uniqrafa: please don't use that kind of language here, what is your problem?11:29
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uniqwes: /etc/fstab file, yes. and what is the problem?11:29
Rafait is not your bussiness man, i am talking to my friend11:29
Rafaare you shy?11:30
Rafaor dont you have anything to do?11:30
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Rafagood bye man11:30
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Rafaplease Uniq , say hi to your mother11:31
uniqrafa: i'm just telling you that we don't like that kind of language in here.11:31
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h3sp4wnRafa: Rafa man I have something that may be good for you man - man fstab11:31
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RogueJediXpwnage :P11:31
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_henryIs there anyone here who can help... I'm having trouble getting 6.06 to recognize a floppy and also a usb flash drive11:31
__mikemHEy, whats the name of that package that makes gtk apps conform more to kdes graphic scheme?11:32
Riddell_henry: floppy is a known problem, you probably have to mount it on the command line11:32
uniq__mikem: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt11:32
__mikemok thanks11:32
__mikemuniq that package is already installed, but firefox still looks like crap under kde11:33
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RogueJediXWhat's apt-build's problem? It keeps wanting to compile apps for 64 bit processors11:34
RogueJediXAnd I told it I have a 32 bit one11:35
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uniq__mikem: hmm.. did you check the settings in system settings - appearance - gtk styles and fonts ?11:35
__mikemhold on11:35
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uniqroguejedix: are you sure you made the right choices during install?11:35
bachstudieskbrooks_: Did you ever put my story on your blog? I don't seem to be able to access your site11:36
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uniqroguejedix: you can re-configure it with the command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow apt-build" in konsole.11:36
RogueJediXuniq: Cool. What does "-plow" do?11:36
__mikem"Use my KDE style in GTK applications" is selected11:37
uniqroguejedix: sets the priority of questions asked to 'low'. That means you'll get most (if not all) questions regarding pacakge configuration again.11:37
kbrooks_bachstudies: i did11:37
_henryThanks Riddell, but I'm a bit of newbie.... can you help me out with the command line??11:37
RogueJediXuniq: Oh, okay. Thanks11:37
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kbrooks_bachstudies: dont pm me please11:38
kbrooks_bachstudies: yes my site is down11:38
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uniq__mikem: hum..then i don't know, my firefox looks ugly too. haven't tried to make it look better..i use konqueror only.11:38
bachstudieskbrooks_: sorry....11:38
kbrooks_bachstudies: WTF11:39
TheHighChildAnyone know if Korganizer works with Google Calendar?11:39
nico8481RadiantFire: found the doc: (http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06) someone from #amaroK pointed it to me with the comment "dapper comes with music playing broken" after i mentionned the fact that i couldn't even play ogg files with amaroK11:39
bachstudieskbrooks_: ????11:39
RogueJediXuniq: I officially hate its guts. Whatever CPU arch. I select, it keeps wanting to download 64-bit compiler packages and then adding -m64 flags during compile11:39
kbrooks_bachstudies: its set to my computer! (the DNS)11:39
bachstudieskbrooks_: ahhhhhh11:39
kbrooks_bachstudies: i dont remember resetting it11:39
Riddell_henry: sudo mkdir /media/floppy; sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy11:39
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kbrooks_bachstudies: but i will get the IP as soon  as i can11:40
uniqroguejedix: sounds strange.11:40
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kbrooks_bachstudies: my website is hosted on a webhost11:40
__mikemfunny, now firefox looks fine, and I didn't change a thing11:40
bachstudieskbrooks_: I understand....no worries....hope you get it back soon!11:40
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kbrooks_bachstudies: so this is why i cant get new e-mail. hmmm.11:41
RogueJediXuniq: I'm trying to recompile alsa, since I can't think of any other way to get my sound back11:41
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kbrooks_well, i need to memoserv Aria now11:41
DaSkreechnico8481: Yes I did last night :)11:42
_henryOk Riddell I tried that and it comes back with "you must specifiy file system type"11:42
nico8481DaSkreech: so do you have the same problem in the "playing:" area?11:42
kbrooks_bachstudies: ... or do I? i think i still have those logs11:42
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kbrooks_hmm11:43
kbrooks_no logs for him11:43
Riddellsudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy11:43
Riddell_henry: ^^11:43
DaSkreechnico8481: Not really I just used two packages from it and used everythign else from kubuntu.org11:43
h3sp4wnRogueJediX: Are you using a custom kernel if you are using the stock kernel you should not have to recompile alsa11:44
gilwhat do i need to play XVID files in VLC....any plugin?11:44
uniqroguejedix: you can do that without optimization with apt-build. I would actually not recommend using it. install 'devscripts' and use something like: 'mkdir alsa; apt-get source packagename;apt-get build-dep packagename ' then 'cd alsa' and run 'debuild -us -uc' should do it.11:44
RogueJediXh3sp4wn: It's a stock one.11:44
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h3sp4wnWhats broken about it ?11:44
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RogueJediXuniq: Noted, thanks. Will try it now11:45
nico8481DaSkreech: but didn't adept automatically detect and update the amaroK (among others) packages the last time you did an update?11:45
DaSkreechnico8481: No11:45
uniqriddell: is floppy missing from fstab by default?11:45
DaSkreechsame version11:45
__mikembrb11:45
nico8481DaSkreech: strange... it did it here... :-/11:45
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nico8481DaSkreech: i just installed the 2 packages too, and then adept showed up with "new updates found", i installed them and among them was the czessi version of amaroK 1.4 :-/11:46
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_henryRiddell THANK YOU, now any chance you could help with the usb drive??  It would be much appreciated11:47
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nico8481DaSkreech: did you remove the czessi repos from your sources.list in the meantime?11:47
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DaSkreechnico8481: Well I expected it to so I did remove them when I didn't need them11:47
nico8481hmm wise man :)11:47
Riddelluniq: seems to be11:48
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Riddell_henry: usb drive should just work in KDE11:48
nico8481maybe i should remove it too and re-run an update (and hope that it will get me the kubuntu version although the same version <although the czessi one> is already installed...)11:48
RogueJediXuniq: It did it again. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/76620411:49
DaSkreechnico8481: use the Kubunu repos from teh site11:49
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RogueJediXWhere the hell did it get the idea I'm using a 64-bit processor?11:49
uniqroguejedix: huh.. are you sure you're not on 64bit? :)11:49
uniqroguejedix: cat /proc/cpuinfo :)11:50
RogueJediXuniq: Not unless my Duron suddenly got an upgrade11:50
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_henryRiddell: it tells me  "mount point media/sdb1 does not exist11:50
uniqroguejedix: heh.. write down the package names and let apt install them.11:50
RogueJediXuniq: Here's the output. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/76620911:51
uniqroguejedix: that way you can remove them if you want to later. I don't think they'll make problems It's probably for crosscompiling.11:51
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RogueJediXuniq: Okie then. Just as long as I don't end up with 64bit packages11:51
nico8481how can i see what packages have been installed from a particular repository ?11:52
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Riddell_henry: sudo mkdir /media/sdb111:52
Riddell_henry: how are you mounting it?11:52
uniqroguejedix: you don't, apt-get does not support more than one arch per install. so if you install i386 you have i386.11:53
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_henryRiddell:  just plugging it in... it attempts to mount and then comes back with that message11:54
uniqwell, i have to go to bed. nite ppl.11:54
_henryRiddell:  That did it... mkdir....   Thank you very much.... ok back to experimenting.. see what I can screw up next.11:55
RogueJediXuniq: Night night. And thanks for helpong out11:55
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RogueJediX*helping11:56
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xstIs it correct that the only thing I have to do in order to upgrade from breezy to dapper is 1) replace "breezy" with "dapper" in sources.list and 2) make a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?11:56
uniqroguejedix: no problem. happy to help :)11:57
uniqxst: yes.11:57
xstnice11:57
uniqnow, i'll go to bed. nite.11:58
xstAnd this upgrade is generally recommended?11:58
tyfon_xst: you need to reboot for new kernel to run11:58
tyfon_after the upgrade11:58
xst(I've asked this a couple of times here, but I really wan't to make sure it is somewhat stable)11:58
TheHighChildDoes anyone know if you can integrate KDE's RSS reader into Firefox or the Sage plugin for ff?11:59
TheHighChild!upgrade11:59
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)11:59
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nixternalhmmm...gksudo ey...don't listen to that Kubuntu users ;)12:00
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claydohwhats with all the G stuff anyway, K is a waay Kooler letter anyhoo....:)12:01
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nixternalG if your ganstah i guess ;)12:02

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