[12:03] <Japsu> how come it's this difficult to get all the packages needed to do C/C++ development
[12:03] <defrysk> its sudo make install actually
[12:04] <defrysk> sudo make install
[12:04] <reid> thankyou so much defrysk!!!!!!
[12:04] <Desh> Open source is two faces, it can be a cure all to your problems or a nightmare.
[12:04] <reid> :D :D
[12:04] <Japsu> I'll rephrase: why doesn't build-essential pull all the packages that are essential for building software?
[12:04] <defrysk> I'll send you the bill later ok ?
[12:04] <Japsu> :E
[12:04] <defrysk> Japsu, hence essential
[12:05] <Ridius> Can someone help me with a usb-network configuration
[12:05] <defrysk> minimum requrements
[12:05] <Blissex> Japsu: all that crep (automake, libtool, ...) is not essential it is essentially evil :-)
[12:05] <defrysk> is means
[12:05] <Hobbsee> Japsu: try installing kde-deve
[12:05] <Japsu> Blissex: I agree that auto* is inherently evil
[12:05] <Hobbsee> Japsu: try installing kde-devel
[12:05] <Ridius> No matter what I put in /etc/networking/interfaces my usb0 device always comes out IPv6
[12:05] <Japsu> aigh
[12:05] <Japsu> I thought I had kde-devel
[12:06] <Desh> Ridius, what are you using to connect to the network? A router?
[12:06] <Japsu> though kde-devel contains lots of fancy k* stuff
[12:06] <Ridius> Desh, it's a USB networking cable
[12:06] <Ridius> USB on both ends to create a peer-to-peer network
[12:06] <Desh> Ah, hmm, no clue.
[12:06] <Desh> Sorry.
[12:06] <Japsu> either it doesn't contain the auto* stuff or I already have all of it installed
[12:06] <Ridius> I basically just need to set it to a static IP address but it keeps coming out IPv6
[12:07] <defrysk> Riddell, want to disable ipv6 ?
[12:07] <Desh> Set the IP address in the interfaces file.
[12:07] <defrysk> Ridius, i mean
[12:07] <cory> is it possible to have an nvidia an an ati card installed and working at the same time? I have a 3-monitor setup and i need to add another video card. the only one i have laying around right now is an ati.
[12:07] <Ridius> I don't need it
[12:07] <raud> where does i find xorg.conf i dapper?
[12:07] <Ridius> I could disable IPv6
[12:07] <Desh> etc/X11
[12:07] <Japsu> last time I tried kubuntu on my laptop I reverted back to gentoo because building stuff was a PITA in kubuntu
[12:07] <cory> raud: /etc/X11
[12:07] <Desh> I think.
[12:07] <raud> thx
[12:07] <defrysk> Ridius, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798&page=5&highlight=disabling+ipv6 read the last post
[12:08] <pekuja> Japsu, evo
[12:08] <defrysk> easy way to get rid of ipv6 activities
[12:08] <Japsu> every time I wanted to build some software I had to hunt down dozens of -dev packages I were missing
[12:08] <Japsu> pekuja: gentoo rots the brain
[12:08] <Japsu> pekuja: it makes everything too easy
[12:08] <Desh> Really, I thought Gentoo was a ho to use?
[12:08] <defrysk> Japsu, apt-get build dep <package>
[12:08] <chavo> Japsu, apt-get build-dep is your friend
[12:08] <defrysk> and you have them all ;)
[12:08] <Japsu> hmm
[12:09] <Desh> what does build-dep do?
[12:09] <Ridius> Thanks
[12:09] <iNiku> defrysk: of course that won't help if there is no pcakage for what you're trying to build...
[12:09] <pekuja> Japsu, yeah, well Gentoo does make development easy that way, but it really just is installing all the development stuff even if you don't need use it yourself
[12:09] <defrysk> Desh, it sets up the deps to be able to compile the concerning package
[12:09] <chavo> it will install everything you need to build a certain package
[12:09] <kronoz> Desh, apt-get build-dep amarok for example would install everything i needed to build amarok from source
[12:09] <defrysk> ^ chakie
[12:09] <Japsu> pekuja: well, I need that stuff ^^
[12:10] <defrysk> chavo, that is
[12:10] <chavo> Japsu, ubuntu isn't designed to be a development platform
[12:10] <Desh> :-O
[12:10] <Japsu> :O
[12:10] <pekuja> :-O
[12:10] <chavo> if you'd like to use it as one, it's assumed that you're competent enough to set it up
[12:10] <Desh> Ouch.
[12:11] <Desh> Burn?
[12:11] <[BU] Brizz> does anyone know why Azureus' toast messages won't hide and why Azureus won't show up in my system tray?
[12:11] <defrysk> that hurt
[12:11] <chavo> not trying to flame it's the facts
[12:11] <defrysk> [BU] Brizz, an AZUREUS bug
[12:11] <defrysk> nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:11] <Japsu> chavo: I would be so much happier if I could just do "apt-get install everything_I_need_to_build_stuff"
[12:11] <reid> sorry for being a newb defrysk but when i use the scons command i now get this error: Checking for C header file GL/gl.h... no Did not find gl.h, exiting!
[12:11] <[BU] Brizz> okay but that is typical then?
[12:11] <chavo> ubuntu is meant to be a simple desktop for the people
[12:11] <defrysk> reid, sorry :(
[12:11] <reid> what dep. do I need now defrysk
[12:12] <Ridius> Thanks for the help. I fixed it though
[12:12] <Ridius> I had some incorrect mapping
[12:12] <Ridius> My bad
[12:12] <Ridius> Thanks guys!
[12:12] <defrysk> reid, dunno
[12:12] <chavo> Japsu, like I said apt-get build-dep
[12:12] <erov> but it's quiite flexible.. just do some reading.. and piddling
[12:12] <defrysk> what are you compling reid ?
[12:12] <KuLover> Anyone ever hear of this? I install Kubunu, it boots, goes through the kubuntu loading bar and finishes, then goes back to the kubuntu logo. If you've heard of this, please help ><
[12:12] <Japsu> chavo: yeah
[12:12] <reid> thats ok- defrysk- ya helped me with the main one :P
[12:12] <chavo> for e.g. if you apt-get build-dep amarok, it will pull in x includes, kde includes, etc. etc.
[12:12] <defrysk> what are you compling reid ?
[12:12] <reid> I am compiling a arcade game defrysk
[12:12] <iNiku> would be nice if there was a meta package for "all" -dev packages... the commonly needed ones, anyway
[12:13] <defrysk> reid, the name ?
[12:13] <Desh> I wish I could compile..
[12:13] <Hobbsee> iNiku: for kde, install kde-devel
[12:13] <pekuja> iNiku, yeah, well what's commonly needed varies a lot
[12:13] <Hobbsee> that gets a lot of them
[12:13] <KuLover> Terminus: You awake?
[12:13] <defrysk> reid, ?
[12:13] <reid> secret maryo chronicles its multiplatform :( defrysk
[12:13] <Desh> I know how to compile DOS proggies in Win32.
[12:13] <iNiku> pekuja: I know, that's the problem
[12:13] <iNiku> Hobbsee: thanks
[12:13] <pekuja> I would agree build-dep is probably the best way
[12:13] <Desh> Well, compile the ones I program with my crappy C++.
[12:13] <pekuja> I usually just install them by hand though
[12:14] <pekuja> but yeah, it's a bit of a pain to do that
[12:14] <iNiku> build-dep doesn't help if there is no source .deb with build dependencies in the repos
[12:14] <reid> defrysk I looked on the forum and installe all that it said it needed- I can give you the names of the dep. if you want the,
[12:14] <reid> *them
[12:14] <iNiku> it only helps if you want to recompile an already debianized/ubuntuized package
[12:14] <sorush20> are there any programs that allow me to playback cd's while I rip music from them and encode them to ogg?
[12:14] <Desh> >_<
[12:15] <defrysk> reid, no no i'm of to bed in a bit
[12:15] <chavo> iNiku, it does help though, you just have to think about it.
[12:15] <Japsu> hmm
[12:15] <reid> ok defrysk well I thankyou for your help and time anyway!! thank you so much!!! :D
[12:15] <Japsu> where's the d-bus session bus started from in kubuntu?
[12:15] <chavo> if it's a kde app, then most likely apt-get build-dep kdebase will cover it
[12:15] <iNiku> chavo: yeah, it does to an extent
[12:15] <defrysk> sorush20, yes
[12:15] <chavo> anything else will come up when you run configure
[12:16] <sorush20> defrysk: could you also give me the name for it.. please.
[12:16] <_Deviant_> Hrm, Anyone up to helping me with a problem?
[12:16] <defrysk> sorush20, sound juicer
[12:17] <Desh> Yay, elternate CD downloade.
[12:17] <defrysk> sorush20, sudo apt-get install sound-juicer
[12:18] <_Deviant_> Problem: Cd rom doesn't auto mount comes up as Unmounted CD in KDE Daemon
[12:18] <defrysk> off to bed bye folks
[12:18] <iNiku> chavo: could hack up a script that figures out the build dependencies from a configure script and offers to automatically install the packages :)
[12:18] <iNiku> the missing ones, that is
[12:19] <Desh> iNiku, you know how to hack?
[12:19] <iNiku> Desh: define "hack"
[12:19] <Desh> like, m4d 1337 h4X0r
[12:19] <Desh> hahaha.
[12:19] <jorik> iNiku, roxor t3h boxor of course !!
[12:19] <iNiku> hehe
[12:20] <Desh> jorik, how unleet of you: r0x0r t3h b0x0r
[12:20] <iNiku> well, I'll leave you guys to it :P
[12:20] <jorik> im beyond leet ... im 1338
[12:21] <FluxBox> :( someone has this nick.
[12:21] <Desh> jorik, all your base are belogn to me.
[12:22] <Desh> You have no chance to spell check, ignore my typos.
[12:24] <Desh> Ok, pray that this, my 3rd dapper install CD, works. :)
[12:24] <jorik> say, has anyone gotten Tremulous 1.1.0 (free fps/rts crossover based on Q3) to work ? i downloaded it but it doesnt extract ... just gives "extraction failed"
[12:24] <Desh> I have no idea what it does.
[12:24] <Desh> Sorry
[12:25] <Steven_M> hi all, what's the url for the past bin site?
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> !pastebin
[12:25] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:25] <Desh> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:26] <jorik> ah well, back to ET then (than?) i gues
[12:26] <Desh> then
[12:26] <jorik-fraggg> thx
[12:26] <sorush20> its not playing back for some reason..
[12:27] <Desh> than is used to compare something, such as I have more oranges than jorik-fraggg
[12:27] <jorik-fraggg> ah cool, i always mix them up ... thats what you get for learning english on IRC i guess
[12:27] <sorush20> sound juicer just keeps telling me that there are certain amounts of time left and the speed fluctuates up and down what can I do?
[12:28] <Desh> Hahaha, true. What's yout first language?
[12:28] <jorik-fraggg> dutch
[12:28] <Desh> Cool.
[12:29] <jorik-fraggg> you're native english ?
[12:29] <Desh> Yeah, well my parents speak spanish, but I am in the US, so yeah, english.
[12:30] <Tombuntu> I used the 'change your package repositories to dapper' method of upgrading as reccomended by the topic (although someone said update-manager would have been much better), and now wifi is broken
[12:31] <Tombuntu> THANKS LINUX
[12:31] <jorik-fraggg> cool, im prolly gonna pick up spanish sometime soon ... thinking of moving to south america for a few years
[12:31] <Desh> Tombuntu, welcome to my problem.
[12:31] <Tombuntu> Desh: ah i am not alone
[12:31] <Desh> jorik-fraggg, yeah, spanish is pretty cool. I want to mvoe down there to make doccumnetaries. :)
[12:31] <Tombuntu> i blame the ops of this channel for putting the WRONG advice in the topic :(
[12:31] <StageZero> Okay...
[12:32] <StageZero> I've done all work for now.
[12:32] <Hobbsee> Tombuntu: what's done now?
[12:32] <Desh> Tombuntu: What I am doing is installing a fresh dapper, after I backed up all my stuff of course.
[12:32] <StageZero> I'm going to smoke a cigarette and then go to bed.
[12:32] <StageZero> I've written a document for work.
[12:32] <StageZero> We need it for replacement of our network.
[12:32] <Tombuntu> when i start wirelessmanager it just bounces, is that what yours did?
[12:32] <Desh> Tombuntu: is your sound still working?
[12:32] <Tombuntu> my sound claims to be disabled
[12:32] <Desh> Same.
[12:33] <Desh> My wlan0 was nowhere to eb found. ;/
[12:33] <Hobbsee> Tombuntu: try knetworkmanager
[12:33] <Tombuntu> under what menu is that
[12:33] <Desh> Tombuntu: did you use ndiswrapper?
[12:33] <Desh> before
[12:33] <jorik-fraggg> Desh, sweet ... ill prolly try n get a job teaching math or something, but ... im off now, i got n00bs to pwn
[12:33] <Tombuntu> i dunno what i used, ubuntu asked for my wifi info during install including wep pass and i said ok
[12:34] <Tombuntu> and it remembered that
[12:34] <Desh> Hahaha, have fun pwning, jorik-fraggg
[12:34] <Desh> Tombuntu: ah well, I used ndiswrapper and Dapper completely messed it up.
[12:34] <Tombuntu> i'm on my ibook next to the sony vaio vgn-t250p that's up
[12:34] <Tombuntu> i probably did too
[12:34] <Tombuntu> sound never really worked properly for me
[12:34] <Tombuntu> only with headphones and then very quiet
[12:34] <Desh> Ah, it did for me but Dapper messed it up.
[12:34] <Tombuntu> i heard of ways to fix it but never tried them
[12:35] <sokuban> What permissions do you need to download printer drivers? '
[12:35] <Desh> Well, can you backup everything?
[12:35] <sokuban> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[12:35] <sokuban> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[12:35] <Kadran> what is the pkg of konference?
[12:35] <sokuban> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:35] <sokuban> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[12:35] <Hobbsee> !paste
[12:35] <Kadran> !konference
[12:35] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:35] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kadran
[12:35] <sokuban> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[12:35] <sokuban> 
[12:35] <sokuban> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[12:35] <sokuban> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[12:35] <imichel> hi
[12:35] <Tombuntu> Desh: i suppose if i can get k3b working
[12:36] <sokuban> sorry, I pasted the wrong thing
[12:36] <Hobbsee> sokuban: please dont paste in here
[12:36] <Desh> Tombuntu: Didn't for me, I used my sister's iPod.
[12:36] <Tombuntu> I've got an iRiver but I have to use a usb hack to get it to use usb
[12:36] <Tombuntu> Luckily it's not my main machine.
[12:37] <Desh> TOmbuntu: eyah I had something similar, but luckily it worked and the files were fine.
[12:37] <imichel> I have am following instructions about installing a program and it says to add some code to /etc/conf.d/local.start (in Gentoo). I am using Dapper Drake; would that place be the same as /etc/rc.local ?
[12:37] <sokuban> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-LaserJet_4P,hpijs] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation. (That was what I really wanted to paste)
[12:37] <sokuban> what permissions do you need to download printer drivers?
[12:37] <Tombuntu> apple released quicktime 7.1.1
[12:37] <Tombuntu> if you purchased quicktime 5 or 6 "pro" this update removes the pro functionality that you had purchased
[12:38] <Tombuntu> and you must purchase 7 pro to fix it
[12:38] <Tombuntu> lol
[12:38] <Desh> BRB.
[12:38] <sokuban> I got the above error when I tried to install printer drivers
[12:38] <tyfon_> sokuban: try one of the other drivers it suggests
[12:38] <sokuban> I tried
[12:38] <sokuban> but I got the same error
[12:39] <ubuntu> hi
[12:39] <KuLover> Anyone ever hear of this? I install Kubunu, it boots, goes through the kubuntu loading bar and finishes, then goes back to the kubuntu logo. If you've heard of this, please help ><
[12:39] <Kadran> is there a konference for kde 353
[12:40] <sokuban> sorry, I have dinner, I'll ask again later
[12:40] <KuLover> Hello capain
[12:40] <KuLover> captain*
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> I have had a couple issues with video.  I am using Nvidia video card. 5500 or something close to that.  But occasionally I lose graphics one window at a time...
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> ANyone care to walk me through checking the settings
[12:43] <Tombuntu> Desh: my sound works
[12:43] <Tombuntu> it's just incredibly quiet even tho everything is all the way up
[12:44] <kkathman> question:  Does Opera for Breezy work ok with Dapper? or do we have to wait to get that?
[12:45] <Desh> Tombuntu: well mine was completely gone. :-/
[12:46] <Tombuntu> if i reinstall anything it will be by hitting f10 and letting the restore partition install windows
[12:46] <Desh> Hahaha.
[12:46] <KuLover> Desh, what sound card are you on?
[12:46] <Desh> Umm...I forgot...
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> How did you setup a partition restore option?
[12:46] <Desh> Some nVidia card
[12:46] <Tombuntu> Jack_Sparrow: it's a sony it already had one
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ah.
[12:47] <TheHighChild> kcathman mine works
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Are you any good with dd?
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> I think I have my command line right
[12:48] <kkathman> TheHighChild:  did you just get the Opera from the Breezy download at Opera.com ?
[12:48] <TheHighChild> kkathman Actually I used Automatix
[12:48] <robotgeek> howdy kkathman
[12:48] <kkathman> oooo automatix !! :(
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> dd if=/dev/sda7 skip=1 of/dev/sdb7 bs=4k conv=notrunc, noerror
[12:48] <kkathman> hey robotgeek :)
[12:48] <TheHighChild> kkathman I can give yo umy deb though if you want it, I think it may have changed though
[12:49] <kkathman> TheHighChild:  I wonder if the "static" deb from Opera.com will work under kubuntu ?
[12:49] <Desh> Ok question
[12:49] <Desh> I am using a Broadcom 4306 Wifi card
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[12:50] <Desh> Dapper has drivers for it, it is set as eth1, how do I start it?
[12:50] <kkathman> robotgeek:  do you happen to know if Opera (breezy) from Opera.com would work also under Dapper?
[12:50] <Tombuntu> how do you set a manually set interface back to dhcp
[12:50] <robotgeek> kkathman: not sure, the static deb should work though
[12:50] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: Try http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-300/intel-linux/opera-static_9.0-20060526.1-qt_en_dapper_i386.deb (until opera provides a version for dapper as standard)
[12:50] <kkathman> robotgeek:  okies
[12:50] <kevin> Desh: I would assume K menu - > Internet - > Wireless lan manager
[12:51] <Tombuntu> kevin: that fails so hard
[12:51] <Tombuntu> for me it shows up bounces the icon for 15 seconds and disappears
[12:51] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn thanks m8 but mine works ^_^, it's for kkathman
[12:51] <Desh> Same for me. :(
[12:52] <Desh> Oh, now it works.
[12:52] <kevin> Tombuntu: I don't even have a wifi card and it opens up just fine..then closes right away with an error somehting along the lines of "You don't have a wifi card dummy!"
[12:52] <Tombuntu> ok i have somehow 900mb of stuff in my /home/ but the important folders i see are maybe 200mb
[12:52] <Tombuntu> kevin: mine doesn't throw an error
[12:52] <Tombuntu> it fails to start
[12:52] <kevin> Tombuntu: There are hidden folders with a period in front of their names
[12:52] <kevin> Tombuntu: Go to view - > Show hidden files
[12:52] <Tombuntu> kevin: the thing si i know this
[12:53] <Tombuntu> and i looked at various ones to see which one is huge or even moderately large (over 1mb)
[12:53] <TheHighChild> Tombuntu you try sorting by filesize?
[12:53] <Tombuntu> i can't figure it out :(
[12:53] <Tombuntu> folders always show up as 4kb if you do that
[12:53] <kevin> Tombuntu: Highlight them all and rightclick one and go to propeties
[12:53] <TheHighChild> Tombuntu one sec, I'll grab a command for you
[12:54] <charwood> This has probably been asked like a million times.  I apologize in advance.  I have enabled multiverse in my sources.list (Dapper Drake 6.06) but libxine-extracodecs is nowhere to be found.
[12:54] <charwood> What did I miss?
[12:54] <charwood> (Yes, I ran apt-get update)
[12:54] <kevin> You need at the top of the tutorial you're probably looking at to add the multiverse and universe repositories
[12:54] <robotgeek> kevin: he did that :)
[12:55] <kevin> meh for some reason my connection reset ><
[12:55] <Tombuntu> thunderbird only 22mb
[12:55] <charwood> kevin: No problem.  All repositories in the default sources.list are uncommented.
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> charwood: whats the output of grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:55] <Tombuntu> kde 12mb
[12:55] <Tombuntu> CANT FIGURE OUT WHERE THE HUGE COMES FROM :(
[12:55] <kevin> Tombuntu: Highlight them all...right click one and go to properties
[12:56] <Tombuntu> 908.0MB
[12:56] <kevin> there ya go
[12:56] <Tombuntu> 15151 files 1094 subfolders
[12:56] <kevin> small things can add up to big sizes
[12:57] <Tombuntu> 12mb of files in the root, and if i select mozilla thunderbird in there as well it's about 15mb
[12:57] <Desh> Ok my broadcom card is recognised by dapper as eth1, how do I set it to connect wirelessly.
[12:57] <Tombuntu> THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW THAT I HAVE A LOT OF FILES
[12:57] <Tombuntu> THANKS FOR NOT LETTING ME KNOW HOW TO FIND OUT WHERE THE LARGE FOLDER IS
[12:57] <Tombuntu> because i mean i already stated i had over 900mb
[12:57] <kevin> Tombuntu: Watch your caps..
[12:57] <Tombuntu> and didn't know where it was
[12:57] <Tombuntu> and i know it's in /home/tom/ but what subfolder?  It is a mystery.
[12:57] <kevin> Tombuntu: What would you be able to do with the large folder?
[12:58] <Tombuntu> Not burn it.
[12:58] <Tombuntu> I don't want to burn a DVD if it's most likely not supported whereas CD is.
[12:58] <kkathman> !xlib
[12:58] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kkathman
[12:58] <kkathman> !xlibs
[12:58] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kkathman
[12:58] <Steven_M> hi all, at http://pastebin.com/763806 is a copy of my original sources.list following my installation of Dapper LTS. as you can see the only mention of the multiverse archive is under the backport section of the file. Since I want to install regular multiverse apps and not backport ones, what line should I add to my sourcs.list file?
[12:58] <kevin> ls -S - use that command
[12:59] <kkathman> I think ubotu needs to update himself..that link isnt active any more
[12:59] <MasterEvilAce> ubotu isn't human
[12:59] <ubotu> MasterEvilAce: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:59] <charwood> kevin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15222
[01:00] <kevin> Tombuntu: Never mind use ls -S -a
[01:00] <Tombuntu> also how do i clicked folder without actually going in folder (double click as opposed to the awful single click)
[01:01] <aseigo> Tombuntu: i'll tell you if you take back the 'awful' comment ;)
[01:01] <Tombuntu> aseigo: it is awful if you are trying to click and click delete instead of right clicking and scrolling and clicking delete
[01:01] <Tombuntu> click delete/hit the delete button on the keyboard
[01:02] <Steven_M> single click is awful!
[01:02] <charwood> Which is a kubuntu repository that I can find libxine-extracodecs?
[01:02] <kevin> single click owns
[01:02] <Tombuntu> kevin: the crazy thing is
[01:02] <Tombuntu> if i select all the files, then right click one and hit properties
[01:02] <Tombuntu> folders that is*
[01:02] <Tombuntu> it says 109mb
[01:02] <TheHighChild> double-click for lief
[01:02] <Tombuntu> and if i select all the files (not folders), it's 12mb
[01:02] <skipster23> how do i unmount my floppy in the terminal
[01:02] <Tombuntu> so that makes 120mb
[01:03] <Tombuntu> if i select them ALL and do right click -> properties
[01:03] <Tombuntu> it's 908mb
[01:03] <Tombuntu> math fails it
[01:03] <Steven_M> charwood: hehe :)
[01:03] <aseigo> Tombuntu:  in any case, you can change it in the mouse control panel
[01:03] <Tombuntu> it was my desktop :O CONCENTRATED EVIL
[01:03] <kevin> charwood: change it to - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15223
[01:04] <aseigo> Tombuntu: while i rather disagree with double cliking being good (and i have the guy who invented it on my side on this topic ;), i certainly agree you have the right to maim your kde in any way you see fit .. ah, configurability!
[01:04] <Steven_M> did anyone see my question?
[01:04] <kevin> single-click means we'll be faster and better able to get food when teh aliens come
[01:04] <TheHighChild> skipster23 not positive because I don't have a floppy but try 'sudo umount /media/floppy0
[01:05] <skipster23> its unmount /media/fd0, i got it thanks
[01:05] <Tombuntu> aseigo: sometimes i just wanna select
[01:05] <Tombuntu> windows got it right: in single click mode, hover = select
[01:06] <Tombuntu> in linux, hover does not = select, and all you can do is either single click or use click drag to drag a box around it and select just the one item
[01:06] <Tombuntu> therefore you are wrong sir
[01:06] <kevin> You can change it in control panel Tombuntu...
[01:06] <TheHighChild> single-click means you open every single file before you can get them to the trashbin
[01:06] <Tombuntu> kevin: i know, i'm just saying
[01:06] <Tombuntu> usability
[01:06] <kevin> click and drag man click and drag
[01:06] <kevin> not click let go click drag leg go drag click drop
[01:06] <kevin> and yes i said leg go
[01:07] <kevin> charwood: You get it sorted?
[01:07] <TheHighChild> I use ctrl + click but tend to forget the ctrl
[01:07] <aseigo> Tombuntu: you can turn on hover == select in kde..
[01:07] <Tombuntu> aseigo: and i can install make, that doesn't mean that i should have to
[01:07] <aseigo> Tombuntu: that said ... i wouldn't push the usability argument because the usability field would actually disagree with you ;0
[01:07] <Tombuntu> oooh linux fight :)
[01:08] <Tombuntu> anyway thanks for the help
[01:08] <TheHighChild> hurry, get the Ben Gay
[01:08] <aseigo> Tombuntu: double click is worse in almost every aspect possible .... there is one place where it is better and that is single file selection
[01:08] <kkathman> argh
[01:08] <aseigo> Tombuntu: fortunately i've got a 'fix' for that for kde4 ;)
[01:09] <kevin> kde 4 will have widgets o.O
[01:09] <kkathman> Does anyone know what I need to install to get xlib6g >3.3.6   ??  Is it the -dev ??
[01:09] <skipster23> i have friend who would like to edubuntu so i coppied it cd the only problem is that her bios won't run the cd on boot, what can i do
[01:09] <kevin> um...disconnect the hd so it'll have to run the cd...lol..
[01:09] <TheHighChild> Is the BIOS set to boot from cd before hard disk?
[01:09] <charwood> kevin: Yes.  That worked.  Thank you.
[01:10] <kevin> in the bios there IS a setting to do it
[01:10] <kevin> charwood: np
[01:10] <skipster23> yes, but it boots the hd first anyways
[01:10] <TheHighChild> You need to make sure the BIOS tries to boot from CD before the hard disk. I suggest 1: Floppy, 2: CD 3: hard disk
[01:10] <skipster23> i did
[01:10] <kevin> skipster23: is the cd in?
[01:10] <TheHighChild> You try the CD on anothe rmachine? Could be bad
[01:10] <TheHighChild> LOL
[01:11] <TheHighChild> kevin NICE
[01:11] <skipster23> the cd boots up fine on my coputer so i know its not the cd
[01:11] <kevin> TheHighChild: My lil bro's done it to me before..
[01:11] <TheHighChild> kevin I work Help Desk and I get that kind of shiat all the time, pretty much why I shiatted my pants
[01:11] <Desh> Ok so i am booting dapper, and it's stuck on the Boot screen, it got stuck at "Mountintg root file system..."
[01:11] <skipster23> is there a floppy boot ican use to mount the cd drive
[01:11] <kevin> on mine you can press some F button and it'll take you to a menu just to specify the boot order..
[01:12] <kevin> Desh: sometimes it says 'mouting 30th time must check for file consistancy' or something
[01:12] <Desh> No no, but this is the first time.
[01:12] <kevin> skipster23: it's the settnigs in your bios you have to get right...
[01:12] <Desh> Oh, it got past it this time, random computer lock up I guess.
[01:12] <TheHighChild> Desh i had that issue and it would crash, turned out to be a bad stick of RAM. Never would have guessed
[01:12] <skipster23> they are ive check 30 times
[01:12] <kevin> Desh :-/ does an error come up? after awhile it should get out of th egraphical kubuntu startup and go into a text-based startup with an error message
[01:13] <Desh> Nah it's good now. I turned the computer off and on again and it worked.
[01:13] <kevin> skipster23: It's the only semi-logical explanation..try getting an update for the bios or something (if you know how to flash it)
[01:14] <TheHighChild> skiptser23 not sure if you answered this but have you verified the CD works on an alternate system?
[01:14] <kevin> TheHighChild: Yah he says it works on his
[01:15] <TheHighChild> Either a bad CD drive (try another) or the settings in the BIOS are wrong. Perhaps there are multiple cd drives and the one select to boot is the wrong one?
[01:15] <Kadran> skipster23: some of the motherboards has a key to press then choose the booting device,
[01:15] <KuLover> Anyone ever hear of this? I install Kubunu, it boots, goes through the kubuntu loading bar and finishes, then goes back to the kubuntu logo. Now about every ten minutes, it says restarting system log. If you've heard of this, please help ><
[01:16] <KuLover> Also.. im on a 64bit setup if that means anything.
[01:17] <kevin> Going to go read my new starwars book hehe c ya
[01:18] <TheHighChild> I was hoping he was joking
[01:23] <dgazz> Good evening everybody!
[01:23] <dgazz> If I may ask for help here?
[01:25] <Kadran> hi dgazz
[01:25] <dgazz> Hi!
[01:26] <dgazz> Kadran: May I ask you a question about mounting?
[01:26] <timmy_> WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:26] <timmy_> sorry
[01:26] <Kadran> dgazz: sure
[01:27] <dgazz> I try to move my homedir to another partition and tried it this way
[01:27] <Sewage> Any Python programmers here?
[01:27] <Sewage> good KDE Python app?
[01:28] <Kadran> dgazz: then you will have to change the mount point of the /home
[01:28] <KuLover> Anyone ever hear of this? I install Kubunu, it boots, goes through the kubuntu loading bar and finishes, then goes back to the kubuntu logo. Now about every ten minutes, it says restarting system log. If you've heard of this, please help ><
[01:28] <dgazz> I made an ext3 filesystem on the desired partition, made it active via qparted and mounted it
[01:29] <dgazz> into my "old" /home
[01:29] <Kadran> dgazz: did you copied the contents of the /home to this new ext3 partition
[01:30] <dgazz> thats the problem, I cant copy it, KDE says error
[01:32] <dgazz> I can only change the content of this "mount"? via root
[01:32] <dgazz> May my fstab entry help?
[01:33] <MasterEvilAce> KuLover: yeah i've had that before
[01:34] <MasterEvilAce> KuLover: many times, really. What I do is go into recovery mode (hit ESC when grub stuff comes up.. choose the top most Recovery mode. if you make it to a command prompt, type "startx".. if it doesn't load, it'll give you an error. that'll help you (and if needed, help us help you)
[01:35] <KuLover> Wow! Thanks!
[01:35] <KuLover> How long will you be here MasterEvilAce? Ill do that now and report the error?
[01:36] <Kadran> hi dgazz, sorry i have moved the power cable :(
[01:36] <MasterEvilAce> kulover: i'll be here for quite awhile (unless i forget what i'm doing and end up taking a shower :P)
[01:36] <KuLover> lol
[01:36] <dgazz> Kadran: huh
[01:37] <dgazz> Kadran: May my fstab entry for that partition help?
[01:37] <Kadran> dgazz: your problem apear in permissions, so i know a solution but it is pretty weared
[01:37] <TheHighChild> dgazz i suggest mounting the partiton as a regular partition and copying the files over. Then changing the fstab to reflect it as the new /home
[01:37] <RadiantFire> does anyone know how I can get my laptop screen to turn off when I shut the lid?
[01:37] <TheHighChild> dgazz You won't be able to write to it until it's mounted.
[01:37] <MasterEvilAce> RadiantFire: what sorta laptop?
[01:38] <RadiantFire> inspiron
[01:38] <dgazz> I mounted it and can only write as root, but read via my user-account
[01:38] <MasterEvilAce> Radiantfire: I have an inspiron 8000.. with Dapper. I don't think I had to do anything to get it to shut off.
[01:38] <Kadran> dgazz: you can open konqueror as root and do the copying
[01:39] <billh> hi
[01:39] <RadiantFire> this is a newer model, the proper designation is e1405
[01:39] <TheHighChild> dgazz kadran is right, you'll need to make your user account the owner of the partition in the fstab
[01:39] <RadiantFire> i think it is related to 9000
[01:39] <KuLover> MasterEvilAce, still here?
[01:39] <MasterEvilAce> kulover: yeah
[01:39] <RadiantFire> apparently, I wasn't closing it tight enough...
[01:39] <billh> I wiped winblows off my laptop and installed kubuntu
[01:40] <KuLover> I got a whole screen of stuff after typing startx, should I just read under the "Fatal server error"?
[01:40] <Vose> Hi anyone have a second
[01:40] <dgazz> Kadran: TheHighChild: Is this the "user"-option?
[01:40] <MasterEvilAce> kulover: yeah i suppose. Whatever seems like it relates to a problem
[01:40] <billh> hmm, /etc/X11 folder should have some config files .1 .2 .3 if you had previous settings that worked in x
[01:40] <TheHighChild> dgazz are you trying to change the permissins through the GUI?
[01:41] <Vose> Firefox stoped working (it loads but does not connect) so I uninstalled all the extentions then I downloaded it agian and reinstalled
[01:41] <Kadran> dgazz: it is the Disks & Filesystems
[01:41] <Vose> It simply times out when trying to go to e.g. www.google.com
[01:42] <Vose> So I run it in safe mode and then nomral and it gave me this line
[01:42] <dgazz> Kadran: Yes, tried it with this option
[01:42] <Sewage> Vose, did you do the IPV6 thing
[01:42] <KuLover> MatserEvilAce, "noscreens found XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset be peer) on X server after 0 requests. Then it gave me eth0: no IPv6 routers present.
[01:42] <Vose> *** nsInstallLogReader::_parseLine - failed to deregister chrome
[01:42] <KuLover> "
[01:42] <Vose> *** nsInstallLogReader::_parseLine - failed to deregister chrome
[01:42] <billh> Kulover, did you change the video driver?
[01:42] <Vose> Sewager no clue what IPV6 is
[01:42] <KuLover> I havent even botted up yet. This is rite after installing.
[01:43] <billh> what video card do you have?
[01:43] <Sewage> well, your errors dont seem to have anything to do wtih IPV6
[01:43] <TheHighChild> kuLover fresh install or a dist-upgrade?
[01:43] <Kadran> dgazz: then you will switch to administartive and open the partition you want and modify it
[01:43] <KuLover> Im on ATI X850XT billh
[01:43] <Vose> Sewager so do you know what deregister chrome is?
[01:43] <Sewage> Vose, but you might as well do this anyway.   go  to  about:config
[01:44] <Sewage> filter ipv6
[01:44] <KuLover> TheHighChild, This is a fresh install, second one actually, I havent even booted yet.
[01:44] <billh> Kulover, you need the proper drivers for it, wierd, It should of detected it and used correct drivers
[01:44] <Sewage> I dont have FF installed, so I forgot what you change
[01:44] <Sewage> you set it to Enbaled or Disabled, I forgot
[01:44] <KuLover> billh, maybe this is a 64but problem?
[01:44] <Sewage> !ipv6
[01:44] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:45] <brandon_> is there a way to use apt to go back to the previous version of a package?
[01:45] <KuLover> billh, 64bit*
[01:45] <dgazz> Kadran: Did it, (Ill try to translate german-english now) mountpoint is /home/user/hdb1 device is /dev/hdb1 fs is ext3 mount access is: every user can de/activate it every time
[01:45] <billh> yeh, do you have the 64 bit distro?
[01:45] <Sewage> Vose,  Double-click the only listed item, network.dns.disableIPv6, and then close the browser.
[01:45] <KuLover> billh yes I do
[01:45] <billh> only thing I can think of is that they dont have the proper driver yet for your vid card
[01:45] <dgazz> allow executables, allow SUID and SGID and allow device points
[01:46] <Vose> about:config is in firefox folder?
[01:46] <KuLover> billh, how can I choose the correct ones?
[01:46] <billh> or the auto config thing selected the wrong driver
[01:46] <Sewage> Vose, type it in  the address bar
[01:46] <Kadran> dgazz: remember to make it writable :) and try, gl
[01:47] <billh> good question, I had this same problem today but I lucked out and used a different config that worked
[01:47] <billh> from a previous session
[01:47] <billh> I accidently selected wrong video driver
[01:47] <MasterEvilAce> Kulover might be able to get it to work using that xorg reconfigure command
[01:47] <billh> im used to Redhat
[01:47] <TheHighChild> KuLover you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver in there (risky unless you're familiar) or you can do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' That will allow you to setupi your xorg.conf all over again. Kind of a pain though
[01:47] <Kadran> does dapper now support NTFS??
[01:48] <Vose> sewage when I type it in it automaticly goes to "about:konqueror"
[01:48] <billh> ah so thats how youi do it
[01:48] <TheHighChild> KuLover if you're running 64 bit, you might have some issues with an ATI driver though
[01:48] <Sewage> Vose, in Firefox, in the address bar, you type about:config
[01:48] <KuLover> TheHighChild Riteo, im on 64bit..
[01:48] <KuLover> TheHighChild Should I try the 32bit installation?
[01:48] <dgazz> Kadran: I could read an NTFS partition but could not write on it. And I made set the writable-option
[01:49] <MasterEvilAce> NTFS has always been readable.. but writing is still experimental i believe
[01:49] <TheHighChild> KuLover That's a tough call. I run a 64 bit installation andhad issues with my ATI but I am using Nvidia right now. Should you switch? eh, depends on what you're trying to do. honestly, I don't feel I get the performance from the 64 bit install that I should
[01:49] <Kadran> i can write to NTFS using capitive but it is tooooooooooo slow
[01:50] <dgazz> Kadran: hm, I set the writeable flag on the ext3 formatted disk
[01:50] <TheHighChild> dgazz There isn't native write support for ntfs
[01:50] <billh> any of you guys using a USB wifi adapter that has native linux drivers?
[01:50] <Vose> sewage should I make it bold or unboald?
[01:50] <KuLover> TheHighChild Im in the xserver reconfigureation and the name of the ati drivers looks like its named as "aati" maebe this is the problem?
[01:50] <TheHighChild> Good luck billh
[01:50] <Sewage> Vose, what
[01:51] <Kadran> dgazz: cross finguers and try copying :)
[01:51] <TheHighChild> KuLover what is your card again? I will google and see what I can turn up
[01:51] <UzzaDead> TheHighChild, good to see you again :D
[01:51] <UzzaDead> whats the problem at hand?
[01:51] <billh> I know the 3com USB adapter has open source drivers but im wondering if I should just use the wired lan for now and wait for better support
[01:51] <dgazz> Kadran: Hmm, so I try to start konqueror as su now...
[01:51] <TheHighChild> UzzaDead hey man, you too. I think I might put up a cot in the corner ;)
[01:51] <Vose> sewage: the network.dns.disableIPv6
[01:51] <UzzaDead> throw me down one too :D
[01:51] <Sewage> I think it's Enable or Disable
[01:51] <KuLover> TheHighChild ATI X850 XT
[01:51] <Sewage> Vose,  Double-click the only listed item, network.dns.disableIPv6, and then close the browser.
[01:52] <TheHighChild> KuLover ok, give me a minute
[01:52] <UzzaDead> ati makes me angry :)
[01:52] <Sewage> Vose, you set to Enable, I think
[01:52] <Vose> sewage: ok that might have worked thank you
[01:52] <Vose> sewage: what is it?
[01:52] <UzzaDead> is anyone running 64bit kubuntu here?
[01:52] <Sewage> Vose, is it working now
[01:53] <billh> this laptop has an ATI radeon mobility 7500, ofcourse ATI refused to make proper linux drivers for it, cant play any games
[01:53] <TheHighChild> KuLover the Vesa drivers should be a temp fix for you to get into your GUI if you want to try that right now
[01:53] <UzzaDead> billh, i'll trade you laptops :)
[01:53] <TheHighChild> UzzaDead I am KuLover too
[01:53] <billh> lol
[01:53] <Sewage> tj9991, did you fix your storage problem yet
[01:53] <Vose> sewage: yes wird
[01:53] <TheHighChild> billh same card in my IBM T42, just gotta go with the flow
[01:53] <billh> the pcmcia slot is also damaged though
[01:54] <UzzaDead> damaged?
[01:54] <UzzaDead> cat pee on it?
[01:54] <billh> my friend dropped my laptop, took out my wifi card with the slot
[01:54] <TheHighChild> You there KuLover?
[01:54] <UzzaDead> ouch!
[01:54] <billh> he bought me a us robotics USB wifi adapter
[01:54] <TheHighChild> holy crap!
[01:54] <TheHighChild> LOL
[01:54] <UzzaDead> that friend would be buying me a new machine or paying for its repairs :P
[01:54] <KuLover> TheHighChild, what will I do one I get into my GUI?
[01:54] <UzzaDead> TheHighChild,  how are you two people?
[01:54] <billh> yeh that would cost a fortune
[01:55] <TheHighChild> KuLover well, it would at least get your system to a usable state and then we can work further on your issue. I'll keep looking though. You can hold off if you'd like
[01:55] <billh> I can fix the slot, just need to take laptop apart and fix the slot
[01:55] <UzzaDead> so do so :D
[01:55] <MasterEvilAce> UzzaDead: I'm a bit confused too :P
[01:55] <TheHighChild> UzzaDead two people? Shiat, I better charge an amusement tax
[01:55] <UzzaDead> MasterEvilAce, no shit..
[01:55] <UzzaDead> TheHighChild,  you said you were KuLover too, what do you mean?
[01:56] <MasterEvilAce> I think he meant he loves Ku, too.. and not that he was "KuLover"
[01:56] <KuLover> UzzaDead Kulover=kubuntu loover
[01:56] <UzzaDead> oh right...
[01:56] <TheHighChild> UzzaDead misunderstanding, i was saying he and I both are running 64bit as per your inquiry
[01:56] <CaBlGuY> wuttup peeps.
[01:56] <UzzaDead> oh, do you mind pastbinning your sources.lst for me :)
[01:56] <UzzaDead> i wanna try a lil hack on my system :D
[01:57] <UzzaDead> gonna toss the k8 kernel on my box :D
[01:57] <MasterEvilAce> They need to change the pronunciation of Kubuntu. I read it's "Koo-boon-too" I say "koo-bun-tu"
[01:57] <MasterEvilAce> It's easier to change the official name than to convert me to the proper way
[01:57] <dgazz> hmm, somehow konqueror refuses to start. Everything is weird here, Ill try a reboot...
[01:58] <JohnFlux> MasterEvilAce: i prounance too and tu the same
[01:58] <billh> they say linux is pronounced lee-nucks, Hell, I call it linux
[01:58] <TheHighChild> KuLover do you have a 'Radeon' option in your reconfiguration options?
[01:58] <MasterEvilAce> billh: good point
[01:58] <JohnFlux> billh: it's kinda pointless to say that you say linux as linux
[01:58] <TheHighChild> KuLover Everything I am reading indicates there is an issue with the fglrx drivers on Dapper 64 bit
[01:58] <JohnFlux> billh: as I'm going to read both the same way :)
[01:59] <billh> lin-ux
[01:59] <JohnFlux> billh: I guess you mean lie-nux
[01:59] <billh> yeh
[01:59] <UzzaDead> at least you dont say it kun tu :D
[01:59] <UzzaDead> or do you...
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[01:59] <billh> lol
[01:59] <KuLover> TheHighChild, I didnt see Radeon, but I did see ATI. I didnt see fglrk driver either
[02:00] <KuLover> flgrx*
[02:00] <TheHighChild> KuLover I could be mistaken but I think the 'ATI' option uses the fglrx driver.
[02:00] <billh> flgrx is what I have to use
[02:00] <UzzaDead> *fglrx
[02:00] <TheHighChild> KuLove I am still looking though
[02:00] <UzzaDead> TheHighChild, whats the problem?
[02:01] <UzzaDead> and on another note cvscedega is the devil
[02:01] <UzzaDead> so is xgl
[02:02] <KuLover> UzzaDead, would you like me to give you the erroe as well? ><
[02:02] <KuLover> error*
[02:02] <UzzaDead> KuLover, yes
[02:02] <TheHighChild> UzzaDead AMD64 and ATI x850 problems
[02:02] <UzzaDead> and what you're attempting to do
[02:02] <KuLover> UzzaDead, "noscreens found XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset be peer) on X server after 0 requests. Then it gave me eth0: no IPv6 routers present.
[02:02] <TheHighChild> UzzaDead Pretty known issue. Plenty of people having trouble with it
[02:03] <KuLover> Yess! Im not alone!
[02:03] <UzzaDead> odd..
[02:03] <TheHighChild> KuLover like I said, ATI is not your friend.
[02:03] <UzzaDead> ATI hates you
[02:04] <KuLover> I love ATI though... well.. I did untill I migrated to Linux
[02:04] <UzzaDead> i loved alot of things until i went linux
[02:04] <billh> Hmm, I wonder if gpsdrive can talk to my usb garmin...
[02:04] <UzzaDead> now im filled with hate
[02:04] <billh> I doubt it
[02:05] <KuLover> haha
[02:05] <UzzaDead> KuLover, if you think this is bad, dont try gentoo :D
[02:05] <TheHighChild> UzzaDead I almos thtought you said 'now I'm fillied with Kate'
[02:05] <UzzaDead> no kate is filled with me if you get my innuendo :D
[02:06] <TheHighChild> lol
[02:06] <UzzaDead> i broke xmms :D
[02:06] <billh> its not linux fault, its all the hardware companies not supporting linux
[02:06] <TheHighChild> Anyone have experience with fglrx drivers on x86_64 install of Kubuntu for KuLover?
[02:06] <UzzaDead> or half ass supporting linux...
[02:06] <UzzaDead> TheHighChild, have you referenced the wiki?
[02:06] <rr72> who uses cups?
[02:07] <UzzaDead> i use cups every day :)
[02:07] <UzzaDead> my mom bitches that i dont wash em...
[02:07] <UzzaDead> or are we talking CUPS
[02:07] <KuLover> Okay.. redid the xorg xonfig.. About to reboot and see if that did the trick. Im on an alt machine BTW ;)
[02:07] <KuLover> config*
[02:07] <rr72> STFu u konw what i mean, i hate dumb smart asses
[02:07] <UzzaDead> KuLover, just kill the server
[02:07] <UzzaDead> some people have no sense of humor..
[02:07] <KuLover> too late :-/
[02:08] <UzzaDead> i hope that dude gets hit by a car on the way to church
[02:08] <UzzaDead> and his arterial spray gets the church doors
[02:08] <KuLover> geez.. that guy wont make it far with that TUDE
[02:08] <TheHighChild> I thought it was cunny
[02:08] <UzzaDead> some people are just cunts...
[02:08] <TheHighChild> I can't imagine what'd he'd say if I whispered 'Buttsecks?'
[02:09] <UzzaDead> or god forbid you whispered omfg hay buttseckz
[02:09] <UzzaDead> he'd probably pop a vein or burst and aneurysm
[02:09] <UzzaDead> an^
[02:09] <TheHighChild> Isn't an aneurism the bursting of a vein?
[02:09] <UzzaDead> yeah but thats in your brain :D
[02:09] <UzzaDead> usually fatal
[02:10] <dgazz> Kadran: Well, works now... But I did a recursive chown and chgrp to my home dir, is that a security risk?
[02:10] <UzzaDead> we could only hope its slow and painful for him
[02:10] <KuLover> Didnt work :`(
[02:10] <billh> if I plug in a usb device, what command do i Type to tell linux to find it?
[02:10] <KuLover> TheHighChild, what alt driver did yo say might work?
[02:10] <TheHighChild> KuLover check this link out, It's for Breezy but may help
[02:10] <UzzaDead> no idea...
[02:10] <TheHighChild> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378&highlight=screens
[02:11] <UzzaDead> KuLover, did you follow the wiki?
[02:11] <Kadran> dgazz: i guess not as the owner is your user account
[02:11] <TheHighChild> KuLover that link is about Fglrx
[02:11] <dgazz> Kadran: Okay, thanx for your help!
[02:11] <rr72> THIS CHAN SUCKS BALLS!!
[02:11] <Kadran> dgazz: you finally made, :) what a feeling, aint't it
[02:11] <billh> well linux detects my gps
[02:12] <Steven_M> did anyone see my question?
[02:12] <Kadran> dgazz: you are welcome any time
[02:12] <billh> just wish gps drive would talk to it
[02:12] <Steven_M> here's a copy of my current sources.list, any idea of what I need to add to get multivurse to work? http://pastebin.com/764105
[02:12] <UzzaDead> that dude has issues...
[02:12] <dgazz> Kadran: Two hours full of questions in my head...
[02:12] <KuLover> UzzaDead? YOu mean did I go check on wiki.com?
[02:12] <UzzaDead> KuLover, yes
[02:12] <UzzaDead> well the kubuntu wiki
[02:13] <UzzaDead> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:13] <UzzaDead> try that
[02:13] <KuLover> UzzaDead, Thanks!
[02:13] <UzzaDead> Steven_M, one sec
[02:13] <linuxmonkey> Steven_M: line 10
[02:14] <linuxmonkey> add multiverse after universe
[02:14] <UzzaDead> or add this line: deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[02:15] <linuxmonkey> UzzaDead: that works but makes your file a bit bigger than needed
[02:15] <linuxmonkey> easyer to just add 1 word :)
[02:15] <UzzaDead> i dont worry much about space...
[02:15] <UzzaDead> i have over 500gb of storage lol
[02:15] <linuxmonkey> lol thats it
[02:15] <UzzaDead> a couple kb isnt gonna make much diff to me
[02:15] <UzzaDead> even a few mb
[02:16] <linuxmonkey> lol
[02:16] <linuxmonkey> i dotn even worry about GB anymore
[02:16] <UzzaDead> me either really
[02:16] <UzzaDead> 5.5gb install requirement? eh.. no problem..
[02:17] <UzzaDead> and thats for one game lol
[02:17] <linuxmonkey> i got a server next to me that has 8 500GIG sata drives in raid
[02:17] <UzzaDead> may i drool on it?
[02:17] <linuxmonkey> no
[02:17] <UzzaDead> can i at least touch it?
[02:17] <linuxmonkey> no
[02:17] <UzzaDead> how about for $5?
[02:18] <linuxmonkey> how bout no cause youll steall it
[02:18] <UzzaDead> lol no i wont
[02:18] <UzzaDead> i've got my dual processor SPARCServer already :)
[02:18] <UzzaDead> i swear the fan array sucked in 2 children yesterday
[02:19] <UzzaDead> thats gonna be messy to clean up..
[02:19] <billh> would a usb port have a thing in dev?
[02:19] <billh> tty or something?
[02:19] <UzzaDead> i'll tell you in a sec bill
[02:19] <Kadran> UzzaDead: you are soo funny :)
[02:20] <UzzaDead> Kadran, i am?
[02:20] <Kadran> yeah, lol
[02:20] <UzzaDead> does that mean i can have a hug?
[02:20] <UzzaDead> my daddy never hugged me :(
[02:20] <UzzaDead> i think you've got to be slightly nuts to even consider using linux :)
[02:21] <Kadran> because he is in the floor laughing
[02:21] <UzzaDead> lol..
[02:21] <UzzaDead> billh, my usb flash drive is showing as /dev/sdb1
[02:21] <UzzaDead> so i'd start looking in /dev/
[02:22] <billh> I see ttyUSB0
[02:22] <UzzaDead> what are you trying to get working?
[02:22] <billh> Im just trying to see if GPS works thru usb
[02:22] <UzzaDead> heh no idea
[02:22] <billh> GpsDrive
[02:22] <billh> trying to get it to talk to gps
[02:22] <UzzaDead> i dont even know what a GpsDrive is :D
[02:22] <billh> program
[02:22] <KuLover> UzzaDead I have a quick question about that link you sent me
[02:22] <billh> like street atlas
[02:23] <Steven_M> thanks all
[02:23] <UzzaDead> KuLover, go ahead
[02:23] <UzzaDead> no idea billh sorry
[02:23] <billh> AHHHHHHHHHHHHH it worked!
[02:23] <UzzaDead> win!
[02:23] <billh> Oh my god it worked
[02:23] <billh> I win finnaly
[02:23] <KuLover> in the first set of given commands for dapper, the last command
[02:23] <KuLover> --overlay-type
[02:24] <KuLover> then it looks liek a think dash.. what is that
[02:24] <UzzaDead> you know what i do when im not sure?
[02:24] <UzzaDead> i just copy and paste the whole damn line lol
[02:24] <KuLover> I would, but Im on an alt machine
[02:24] <UzzaDead> ah..
[02:24] <UzzaDead> sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[02:24] <UzzaDead> that line?
[02:25] <KuLover> Ahh
[02:25] <KuLover> There ti goes
[02:25] <linuxmonkey> lol
[02:25] <UzzaDead> see it?
[02:25] <KuLover> Thanks again!
[02:25] <UzzaDead> np
[02:25] <UzzaDead> hope it works for you :D
[02:25] <KuLover> Ill let you know how it goes
[02:25] <UzzaDead> i just hope k3b burns my iso that i just warezed from a ubuntu mirror!
[02:25] <UzzaDead> ubuntu 6.06!
[02:26] <KuLover> lol
[02:26] <UzzaDead> no.. wait linux isnt warez..
[02:26] <UzzaDead> blasted windows world!
[02:26] <linuxmonkey> UzzaDead: according to homeland securety linux users are cyber terrorist
[02:26] <UzzaDead> are we?
[02:27] <ep_> who ep
[02:27] <UzzaDead> at least im not trying to ram my finger up some random strangers ass looking for objects...
[02:27] <UzzaDead> i've never heard of anyone forming a c4 bomb in their anus
[02:27] <UzzaDead> with wires trailing out to detonate
[02:28] <UzzaDead> and last i checked shoes didnt come in size C4
[02:28] <KuLover> OOOOMMMGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:28] <KuLover> HOIWIHDWOIUGBLIF
[02:28] <KuLover> UZZADEAD!
[02:28] <UzzaDead> what?
[02:28] <KuLover> YOU RULE
[02:28] <UzzaDead> can i have a hug now? lol
[02:28] <KuLover> IT WORKED
[02:28] <UzzaDead> congrats :D
[02:29] <UzzaDead> mmm 8x500gb sata..
[02:29] <UzzaDead> that wiki has saved my sorry @$$ more times than i can count
[02:29] <KuLover> ITS BEAUTIFUL! *tear*
[02:30] <TheHighChild> KuLover what worked for you?
[02:30] <KuLover> HAHA
[02:30] <KuLover> The wiki link Uzzadead sent me
[02:30] <TheHighChild> nice
[02:30] <KuLover> It seems like it updated the flglx drivers
[02:30] <UzzaDead> fglrx^
[02:31] <UzzaDead> spelling and such is everything in linux :)
[02:31] <UzzaDead> i think im gonna install ubuntu too
[02:32] <UzzaDead> see how many OS's i can stuff on this 160gb drive
[02:33] <brandon_> does anybody have kde-devel installed succesfully?
[02:33] <UzzaDead> hey KuLover can you do me a favor?
[02:33] <KuLover> Sure
[02:33] <KuLover> I can certainly try
[02:33] <UzzaDead> can you pastebin your sources.lst for your 64bit kubuntu?
[02:34] <UzzaDead> im trying to snag myself a K8 kernel
[02:34] <KuLover> UzzaDead, lemme switch over to that machine... just a sec
[02:34] <UzzaDead> k
[02:34] <IlToNtO> i have a problem for the broadcom 4318 wireless
[02:34] <billh> ndiswrapper locks up?
[02:35] <UzzaDead> some 3-in-1 should fix that :)
[02:35] <UzzaDead> wb KuLover
[02:35] <KuLover> Thanks Yah
[02:35] <UzzaDead> np
[02:35] <KuLover> Uhh.. where can I locate it?
[02:35] <UzzaDead> in /etc/apt/
[02:36] <stn> i need restart the services of sounds in my ubuntu
[02:36] <KuLover> You wanted my apt conf file?
[02:36] <IlToNtO> no i don't have ndiswrapper i want install whit bcm module
[02:36] <UzzaDead> nope just the sources.lst
[02:36] <KuLover> How should I send it?
[02:37] <UzzaDead> pastebin or http://www.yousendit.com works
[02:38] <KuLover> UzzaDead, http://pastebin.com/764151
[02:38] <UzzaDead> thanks :D
[02:38] <KuLover> Anytime
[02:38] <UzzaDead> now i hope i dont blow my system into 4k pieces
[02:38] <KuLover> Haha
[02:39] <UzzaDead> wouldnt be the first time
[02:39] <KuLover> :0
[02:39] <jeroenvrp> anyone knows if prelinking openoffice and firefox does really help!?!?!
[02:39] <UzzaDead> no idea
[02:40] <UzzaDead> damn doesnt look like thats gonna let me grab a k8 kernel
[02:41] <UzzaDead> oh and KuLover whatever you do dont be tempted to try xgl
[02:41] <UzzaDead> its the spawn of satan
[02:41] <KuLover> The drivers?
[02:41] <UzzaDead> the wobbly windows driver x.org replacement thing
[02:41] <KuLover> Sure thing!
[02:41] <UzzaDead> i love me some windows
[02:41] <UzzaDead> for gaming at least
[02:41] <UzzaDead> the rest is linux
[02:42] <KuLover> you like MMORPGs?
[02:42] <UzzaDead> not especially
[02:42] <UzzaDead> i like morrowind :D
[02:42] <KuLover> I know an onpen source multi platform one
[02:42] <KuLover> its worth a try
[02:42] <UzzaDead> whats it called?
[02:42] <KuLover> www.planeshift.it
[02:42] <UzzaDead> lets have a look at this
[02:43] <UzzaDead> that looks pretty good for free
[02:43] <KuLover> Yeah
[02:43] <KuLover> Still in dev stages though
[02:43] <KuLover> eh.. i like it
[02:44] <UzzaDead> i might give that a go
[02:44] <Desh_> What is a good package for forefox video streaming?
[02:44] <KuLover> firefox wants this "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0" what package should I install?
[02:44] <Desh_> mplayer is not in the dapper repositories anymore?
[02:45] <UzzaDead> how did you install firefox?
[02:46] <KuLover> the tar.gz
[02:46] <UzzaDead> i used adept
[02:46] <KuLover> I like that way better.. Is there a reason I shouldnt?
[02:46] <UzzaDead> you could have done apt-get install mozilla-firefox also
[02:46] <UzzaDead> mostly dependency problems
[02:47] <Desh_> What should I use for firefox video streaming?
[02:48] <billh> hmm, I have a linux noob question, how do I switch into a hidden folder, one that starts with a .?
[02:49] <nixternal> cd .foldername
[02:49] <billh> says doesnt exist
[02:49] <nixternal> then it doesn't exist ;)
[02:49] <UzzaDead> :D
[02:49] <billh> what, now it works
[02:49] <billh> lol
[02:49] <nixternal> hehe
[02:49] <nixternal> forgot the .
[02:49] <UzzaDead> probably a typo or something
[02:49] <billh> yeh
[02:49] <nixternal> i do that all the time...
[02:50] <billh> case sensitive too, throws you off used to winblows
[02:50] <UzzaDead> yeah that gets me
[02:51] <UzzaDead> im gonna go toss ubuntu on the drive be back in a few..
[02:51] <KuLover> Ill be back later. Thanks for your help UzzaDead aka life saver
[02:51] <UzzaDead> lol np KuLover
[02:51] <UzzaDead> just pass it on :D
[02:52] <graywolf> test
[02:52] <UzzaDead> icle
[02:52] <D0M1N8R> Need a little help here. Just booted kubuntu live 6.06 and need root
[02:52] <D0M1N8R> blank password dont work
[02:52] <UzzaDead> try sudo passwd root
[02:53] <UzzaDead> and set the password
[02:53] <Kadran> D0M1N8R: why you need root?
[02:53] <D0M1N8R> for a insmod
[02:54] <claydoh> D0M1N8R: just use 'sudo insmod foo'
[02:54] <D0M1N8R> ah
[02:54] <claydoh> and use the user password
[02:54] <claydoh> your user password rather
[02:55] <D0M1N8R> hmm I see on locate that rt2500 is there but I dont know how to set that up. This is a wireless chipset
[03:00] <CaBlGuY> !DVD
[03:00] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[03:03] <derek__> when i play mp3 files in amarok they go really fast thru but no sound comes out
[03:03] <derek__> like a one hour file will go thru in like 4 seconds
[03:08] <nixternal> !multiverse
[03:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[03:09] <nixternal> derek__: goto the link above...setup your source.lst like the way they show...and then go into adept or whatever...you want the libxine-extracodecs
[03:09] <D0M1N8R> dont think this wireless setup is going to work. Its a Level1 usb wifi and according to google searches has rt2500 chipset. Ive modprobe'd rt2500 and rt2400 just incase I have a earlier version. Still no go.
[03:09] <nixternal> that will fix your issue
[03:09] <D0M1N8R> I know sometimes the chipset is supported but not over USB
[03:10] <nixternal> rt2500=broadcom?
[03:10] <D0M1N8R> Not sure who makes the chipset. The usb stick is level1
[03:10] <D0M1N8R> Ralink rt2500
[03:10] <KuLover> Anyone know why when I try to update to amaroK 1.4, it says update(brak0?
[03:11] <nixternal> ok..let me check recent wi-fi tests and see if that is listed
[03:11] <KuLover> (BREAK)*
[03:11] <D0M1N8R> I see a linux usb source code link for the chipset
[03:11] <D0M1N8R> http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm
[03:11] <nixternal> that should work...but it is usb...hmm
[03:12] <nixternal> i had issues with a linksys usb...so i threw it out ;)
[03:12] <D0M1N8R> =)
[03:13] <D0M1N8R> this thing was dirt cheap so decided to try it
[03:13] <nixternal> same with that linksys...it runs fine with windows..but use it on nix and it is horrible
[03:18] <vschmidt> Hello - where are the DNS server addresses stored if I want to hard edit a conf file?  If I use network-admin it does not remember proper dns after reboot... Thanks
[03:18] <KuLover> Why do I get install(BREAK) when trying to update amaroK?
[03:18] <KuLover> Why do I get install(BREAK) when trying to update amaroK?
[03:18] <KuLover> oops, sry for repeat
[03:18] <KuLover> But, does anyone know?
[03:19] <nixternal> vschmidt: /etc/resolv.conf
[03:19] <vschmidt> thanks
[03:19] <nixternal> i don't know KuLover. have you checked #amarok
[03:19] <nixternal> np vschmidt
[03:19] <KuLover> Ah, not yet, thanks
[03:19] <nixternal> they fix all my amarok issues ;)
[03:20] <brandon_> Riddell?
[03:20] <nixternal> splash?
[03:20] <nixternal> hehe me too
[03:21] <cayou> Goodbye WinXP, I'm sold to Dapper Drake
[03:21] <nixternal> good to hear that cayou...congrats
[03:21] <cayou> thanks, I am running the Live version for now, I'll be installing tomorrow
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> cayou: Awesome, good luck. :)
[03:22] <nixternal> good deal
[03:22] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Nope the musicbrainz doesn't work
[03:22] <cayou> I'm very impressed, even the live version is pretty good
[03:22] <DaSkreech> Well it does but for .ogg which I've pretty much tagged out already
[03:23] <nixternal> ahh...i have't ran the musicbrainz yet...i haven't even edited an mp3 yet that i can think of in amarok
[03:23] <DaSkreech> nixternal: It can do it but ...
[03:23] <nixternal> i haven't tagged anything yet ;)  i need to though
[03:23] <cayou> I was going to upgrade RAM to 1Gb (currently 512Mb) but I don't think I'll need to
[03:23] <DaSkreech> Music Brainnnnzzz Braaaiiinzzzzzzzz
[03:23] <nixternal> lol
[03:23] <DaSkreech> That was pretty much the main reason why I'm using kubuntu
[03:24] <DaSkreech> I keep asking about picard but no one has any idea what I'm talking about
[03:24] <cayou> Any major issues with 6.06 so far?
[03:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> cayou: Only one Ive had was with my touchpad, but that can be fixed by installing the XFree86 driver, and creating a symlink to that instead of the X11 driver.
[03:26] <cayou> ok, I just adjusted the time for the clock and when I clicked "Apply", my monitor went off for about 5 seconds... any explanation?
[03:27] <DaSkreech> Why does ktorrent do this?
[03:28] <DarkLegacy> Hey guys
[03:28] <DarkLegacy> I'm running Kubuntu on LiveCD
[03:28] <DarkLegacy> And I love it so far
[03:28] <DarkLegacy> KDE is awesome
[03:28] <cayou> me too Dark
[03:29] <DarkLegacy> I'm thinking of switching over from Windows XP totally
[03:29] <cayou> I'm installing tomorrow
[03:29] <DarkLegacy> I just ran Kubuntu and I already know how to use everything, and the entire OS is just like I wanted it to be
[03:29] <DarkLegacy> No ethernet problems, no driver bugs, nothing
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> woohoo. :D
[03:29] <cayou> fast, slick
[03:29] <DarkLegacy> I love it
[03:30] <DarkLegacy> CPU Load is 0%
[03:30] <DarkLegacy> Can you imagine that?
[03:30] <DarkLegacy> Not using CPU at all practically
[03:31] <cayou> I quit trying Linux distros about 2 years ago because I liked none of them. I can see that a lot of progress happened
[03:31] <DaSkreech> haha
[03:31] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: try running top I think you will find a different report
[03:31] <DarkLegacy> Try running top?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> cayou: Wait till Sep.!!
[03:31] <DarkLegacy> What do you mean
[03:32] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: open a Konsole and type top
[03:32] <DarkLegacy> Ok
[03:32] <cayou> 1%, still very good
[03:32] <DarkLegacy> CPU Usage: 6.3%
[03:32] <DaSkreech> Yeah a bit higher :)
[03:32] <DarkLegacy> 700MB of Ram used however, but that's understandable because it's a LIVECD
[03:32] <DaSkreech> Still pretty good though
[03:32] <DarkLegacy> I've never fallen in love with an OS like this
[03:33] <cayou> all my RAM is used as well
[03:33] <DarkLegacy> Everything just 'clicked'
[03:33] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: Something will go wrong :)
[03:33] <DarkLegacy> I have Ubuntu 6.06 installed on my laptop and everything goes wrong
[03:33] <DaSkreech>  But that's what we are here for :)
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:33] <fentekreel> how do i change the login screen?
[03:33] <DarkLegacy> Nothing has gone wrong so far, at all
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> I have Kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop. Works great. :)
[03:33] <DaSkreech> Nice to have an encouraging world Thanks@!
[03:33] <fentekreel> i cant seem to find this confiugration utility that the forums speak of
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> fentekreel: amd64?
[03:33] <DarkLegacy> I'm probably going to install Kubuntu on my laptop now instead of Ubuntu
[03:34] <cayou> once installed, how much RAM will it use? (rough estimate)
[03:34] <DarkLegacy> One problem is that I can't find any games XD
[03:34] <DarkLegacy> Ubuntu had like 10 pre-installed games
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> fentekreel: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120 <--- KDM theme manager
[03:35] <DarkLegacy> Thanks CheeseBurgerMan
[03:35] <DarkLegacy> Free games! :D
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> DaSkreech: sudo apt-get install kdegames
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> ;)
[03:35] <DaSkreech> CheeseBurgerMan: Too late!! :)
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, oh well.
[03:35] <DarkLegacy> Oh nice
[03:35] <fentekreel> is the theme manager in the repositories
[03:35] <DarkLegacy> Installing games into RAM rofl
[03:36] <DaSkreech> fentekreel: What are you trying to do?
[03:36] <Hawkwind> fentekreel: sudo apt-get install kcontrol-kdmtheme
[03:36] <Hawkwind> fentekreel: That URL CheeseBurgerMan gave you even says it's in universe
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm, I need to read more carefully. :)
[03:36] <Hawkwind> A Kubuntu package is now in "Universe" so look for updates there.
[03:37] <cayou> any canadian kubuntu users here?
[03:37] <CaBlGuY> nope..
[03:37] <CaBlGuY> ;P
[03:37] <DarkLegacy> It's decided. I'm dual-booting.
[03:37] <DarkLegacy> :)
[03:37] <CaBlGuY> who knows how to get the packages needed to run a DVD?
[03:37] <CaBlGuY> NOOOOOOOO
[03:37] <CaBlGuY> dual booting = bad..
[03:37] <Sewage> Canadians use Ehbuntu
[03:37] <CaBlGuY> DON'T
[03:37] <CaBlGuY> GIVE
[03:37] <CaBlGuY> IN
[03:37] <CaBlGuY> :p
[03:37] <cayou> lol
[03:38] <Hawkwind> CaBlGuY: https://wiki.kubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:38] <Sewage> yeah, just swith 100% to Linux
[03:38] <cayou> or Kubuntu-eh?!
[03:38] <Sewage> I did it, you can too
[03:38] <CaBlGuY> Exactly
[03:38] <CaBlGuY> :P
[03:38] <Sewage> lol
[03:38] <CaBlGuY> ditto
[03:38] <DarkLegacy> I'm dual booting with XP for games and Kubuntu for regular OS
[03:38] <DarkLegacy> Because so far I can't possibly reboot right now back into XP
[03:38] <DarkLegacy> It's too dramatic of a change
[03:38] <CaBlGuY> Hawkwind YEA, i GOT RESTRICTED INSTALLED already..
[03:38] <CaBlGuY> Oops.. sorry bout the caps..
[03:38] <CaBlGuY> :(
[03:39] <Hawkwind> CaBlGuY: It's OKKKK
[03:39] <Hawkwind> Heh
[03:39] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[03:39] <CaBlGuY> so, what packages I need to install??
[03:40] <UzzaDead> ubuntu seems to be the devil
[03:40] <Hawkwind> CaBlGuY: libdvdcss2 ?
[03:40] <DarkLegacy> <3 Kubuntu
[03:40] <UzzaDead> DarkLegacy:  yeah
[03:41] <UzzaDead> im liking kubuntu a whole lot more than ubuntu..
[03:41] <CaBlGuY> Hawkwind tried those, says they wern't found..  or somethin like that..
[03:41] <cayou> Konqueror seems to work pretty well for the web, anyone prefers Firefox?
[03:41] <Hawkwind> CaBlGuY: Make sure you have the right sources setup
[03:41] <UzzaDead> i definitely prefer firefox
[03:41] <CaBlGuY> hawkwind repos ya mean??
[03:41] <Hawkwind> CaBlGuY: Yes
[03:42] <Hawkwind> CaBlGuY: Have you looked at the PLF stuff ?
[03:42] <Hawkwind> !plf
[03:42] <ubotu> I guess plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> cayou: I regularly use switch between konqueror, Firefox, and Opera.
[03:42] <CaBlGuY> Hawkwind, ok, like I said, I got restricted in the file..   what else can I do?
[03:42] <UzzaDead> pray
[03:42] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[03:42] <Hawkwind> CaBlGuY: I'm totally new to the Ubuntu world so I just followed what was on the site
[03:42] <UzzaDead> seems to help with linux
[03:42] <UzzaDead> whats the problem?
[03:42] <CaBlGuY> UzzaDead:  U got that right..   but, not so much with dapper..
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> CaBlGuY: try running 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2'
[03:43] <UzzaDead> yeah i like dapper
[03:43] <CaBlGuY> CheeseBurgerMan:  OK, hang on..
[03:43] <CaBlGuY> brb
[03:43] <UzzaDead> so far im actually hating ubuntu lol
[03:43] <UzzaDead> it wont even recognize my resolutions
[03:44] <cayou> I don't know Opera, been using firefox for over a year, new to Konqueror
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: You may have to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> cayou: you should try it...the (kinda) new 9.0 beta 2 is pretty cool.
[03:45] <CaBlGuY> ok, did the update, then tried the install, says libdvdcss2 not available but, is refered to by another package whatever that means..
[03:45] <UzzaDead> im gonna sudo rm -rfv /* in a minute lol
[03:45] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: wassup
[03:45] <cayou> CheeseBurgerMan: I'll have a look at it, thanks
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: I assume you know what that does... ;)
[03:45] <UzzaDead> :)
[03:45] <CaBlGuY> hey linuxmonkey how ya doin.   :)
[03:45] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  tryin to be able to watch DVD's..
[03:46] <UzzaDead> how much is 256mb in kB?
[03:46] <linuxmonkey> !restrictedformats
[03:46] <ubotu> from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:46] <linuxmonkey> us that one CaBlGuY
[03:46] <cayou> 256000
[03:46] <UzzaDead> cheers :D
[03:47] <DarkLegacy> Guys
[03:47] <DarkLegacy> How would I go about dual-booting?
[03:47] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  ok..  one more time..  I got restrickted repos already...
[03:47] <Hawkwind> UzzaDead: 256x1024
[03:47] <DarkLegacy> Extra free space for Linux, and what else?
[03:47] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  read up..  /\
[03:47] <UzzaDead> Hawkwind i failed math miserably, can you tell?
[03:47] <Hawkwind> UzzaDead: That's why google is your best friend :)
[03:47] <DaSkreech> !FreeFormats
[03:48] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[03:48] <cayou> isn't 1 megabyte = 1 million bytes?
[03:48] <UzzaDead> what about that unisex person on the tv commercials talking about ask.com?
[03:48] <Hawkwind> 256 x 1 024 = 262 144
[03:48] <UzzaDead> "google isnt better, its just more popular"
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> cayou: 1,048,576 bytes
[03:48] <UzzaDead> obviously they've not tried google...
[03:50] <cayou> CheeseBurgerMan: according to Wikipedia, we are both right!!
[03:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, yup
[03:51] <cayou> it's either 2^10 or 10^3
[03:52] <cayou> (for kB, that is)
[03:52] <CaBlGuY> so, If I got all the restricted repos like I'm posed to, and the libdvdcss2 isn't installing.  what next?
[03:54] <DarkLegacy> Ok
[03:54] <DarkLegacy> So, how do I dual boot with Kubuntu? I need some free space for it, and then Grub will handle the rest?
[03:55] <CaBlGuY> DarkLegacy:  why u needing to dual boot..
[03:55] <CaBlGuY> what else ya running?
[03:55] <DarkLegacy> I need XP for games. :(
[03:55] <UzzaDead> CheeseBurgerMan: that worked thanks
[03:55] <UzzaDead> DarkLegacy: dont forget the pr0nz
[03:55] <CaBlGuY> Ahhh another Gamer...
[03:55] <D0M1N8R> this thing is not seeing my drive either =(
[03:55] <CaBlGuY> :p
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: Good. :)
[03:56] <DarkLegacy> lol
[03:56] <UzzaDead> i now have 1600x1200!!!
[03:56] <D0M1N8R> linspire did but kubuntu isnt
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> DarkLegacy:  yes, u will use Grub once u install  Kubuntu
[03:56] <DarkLegacy> So that's it
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> yea, that's it..
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> it's pretty easy..
[03:56] <DarkLegacy> I just get some free space, parition it, then Grub will allow me to select between Windows XP and Kubuntu on startup?
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> just follow the promts
[03:56] <UzzaDead> DarkLegacy: whats this about dual booting?
[03:56] <UzzaDead> im triple just about to quad boot :D
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> DarkLegacy: Yes.
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> UzzaDead:  stay outa this..
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> :p
[03:57] <DarkLegacy> Wow.
[03:57] <DarkLegacy> That's really easy.
[03:57] <UzzaDead> CaBlGuY: dont make me break yous leg
[03:57] <CaBlGuY> UzzaDead:  mutha fu... please...
[03:57] <CaBlGuY> :p
[03:57] <UzzaDead> im gonna wreck yous up good!
[03:57] <DarkLegacy> Oh Linux, how I loveth thee
[03:57] <DarkLegacy> Let me count the ways
[03:57] <UzzaDead> thats uzi :P
[03:57] <DarkLegacy> Thoust fastest performance
[03:57] <CaBlGuY> yea that 2..
[03:57] <CaBlGuY> :D
[03:57] <DarkLegacy> Thoust amazing community
[03:57] <DarkLegacy> Thoust stylish interface
[03:57] <DarkLegacy> Thoust easy boot scheme
[03:58] <DarkLegacy> Thoust ... 3,000 other things
[03:58] <cayou> What is Katapult, I start it and a logo appears, that's it?
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> :op*****
[03:58] <DarkLegacy> Alright guys
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[03:58] <DarkLegacy> I'm gonna install Kubuntu on my laptop and PC
[03:58] <DarkLegacy> :)
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> cayou: it's like quicksilver
[03:58] <UzzaDead> and worship us?
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> DarkLegacy:  yea, go for it..
[03:58] <DarkLegacy> lol
[03:58] <DarkLegacy> Hell yes I will
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> Ya can't go wrongman..
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[03:58] <DarkLegacy> I gotta take up C++ also
[03:59] <cayou> hehe, what's quicksilver?
[03:59] <UzzaDead> unless you try to use xgl
[03:59] <UzzaDead> then you can go VERY wrong
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> cayou: Start typing in the name of a program...
[03:59] <DarkLegacy> Or get WineX/Cedega for Kubuntu
[03:59] <CaBlGuY> LOL  yea, Xgl is baaaad..
[03:59] <DarkLegacy> Heh, anyway cya guys
[03:59] <DarkLegacy> I'll return with results
[03:59] <judd> cayou: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33985
[03:59] <UzzaDead> xgl bit me in the nuts
[03:59] <DarkLegacy> <3 Kubuntu
[03:59] <UzzaDead> i cried for days
[03:59] <CaBlGuY> DarkLegacy:  good luck bro..
[03:59] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[04:00] <cayou> oh! I see, thanks guys..
[04:00] <CaBlGuY> I was havin some issues with mine untill I apt-get installed glx then I was fine..
[04:00] <CaBlGuY> :)
[04:00] <UzzaDead> ubuntu makes me think someone got pissed at me and took a shit on my monitor :(
[04:00] <UzzaDead> anyone else feel that way?
[04:00] <D0M1N8R> RoFL
[04:00] <CaBlGuY> brb guys..
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: Not really...
[04:01] <UzzaDead> its just the colors lol
[04:01] <D0M1N8R> Ya ubuntu is IMO pretty ugly
[04:01] <cayou> Uzza: not in those words... ;)
[04:01] <D0M1N8R> by default
[04:01] <UzzaDead> pretty ugly is a compliment lol
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: I thought it wasn't bad. :)
[04:01] <UzzaDead> CheeseBurgerMan: i question your sanity
[04:02] <_john> I read the FAQ and suggestions for playing mp3s but Anarok still wont play my songs. Any suggestions our there?
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> Question away, I'm sane. ;)
[04:02] <UzzaDead> by whose definition :P
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> _john: Have you installed libxine-extracodecs ?
[04:02] <UzzaDead> _john: what CheeseBurgerMan said
[04:03] <UzzaDead> him calling amarok anarok reminded me of a funny usenet posting of a guy asking about "anus" motherboards when he meant asus
[04:03] <_john> No sorry I multiversed but could not locate this file name in the list of packages
[04:03] <UzzaDead> and some other guy recommending he get an AMD ASSlon processor to go with his new anus motherboard
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> _john: did you run 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[04:03] <UzzaDead> and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: Uh, that won't help.
[04:04] <_john> No but will try that thanks
[04:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> That upgrades the distro, it doesn't install a certain package.
[04:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo apt-get update' checks the repos for updates.
[04:05] <cayou> What amazes me with Kubuntu is that drivers are not needed, I mean, I inserted an SD card in the card reader of my printer and 2 seconds later the drive was visible... running the LIVE CD!!!!!!!
[04:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wow. I wonder if my computer's card reader works... :)
[04:06] <cayou> I bet it does!
[04:06] <judd> cayou:  USB printer?  Then the printer is acting as a hub.  And by default, most distros these days have usb-storage module installed by default.
[04:06] <judd> So, it's not much of a surprise that it worked.
[04:06] <cayou> Anyone here tried suse10.1? (please don't shoot me)
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> cayou: Maybe, but my lack of anything but CF cards makes it hard to try. :P
[04:06] <judd> I use SLES9 at work.  It's a really pain in the butt.
[04:07] <cayou> judd: yes, worked like a charm
[04:07] <judd> The HAL and DBUS systems make the KDE integration happen.
[04:08] <cayou> oops, too technical for my "newbee" status.. ;)
[04:08] <judd> cayou: just some pointers for further investigation.. of if you're wondering what's starting as the stuff goes whizzing by when you boot up.
[04:08] <UzzaDead> i tooled around with SuSE a bit..
[04:08] <UzzaDead> didnt like it much
[04:08] <judd> SuSE.. especially OpenSuSE is a good distro.
[04:08] <cayou> thanks judd
[04:09] <judd> But the rpm package management still leaves a lot to be desired.
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Anyone else using KOffice 1.5.1 with Dapper?
[04:09] <cayou> Tonight is Kubuntu testing, tomorrow is Suse, then I decide which to install
[04:09] <UzzaDead> suse insulted me in so many ways i couldnt count them
[04:09] <UzzaDead> and support was pretty much non existent
[04:09] <judd> I'd stick with Kubuntu.
[04:09] <judd> Unless you can read German.
[04:09] <UzzaDead> i'll second that
[04:10] <cayou> judd: I thought someone would say that here :)
[04:10] <UzzaDead> judd: du sprechen sie deutsch?
[04:10] <judd> cayou: nope.
[04:10] <cayou> judd: ?
[04:10] <UzzaDead> cayou: i use many many OS's ask about pretty much any and i've probably used it :D
[04:10] <judd> Seriously, I look for help on SLES9, and it's all in german.
[04:11] <UzzaDead> or the users are high and mighty @$$holes
[04:11] <UzzaDead> and act like noobs dont exist and they never had to learn
[04:11] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu torrent stalled for the past 6 hours
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> Anyone else using KOffice 1.5.1 with Dapper?
[04:11] <chris_____> anyone know how to install Skype on Kubuntu 6.06 for AMD64?
[04:11] <cayou> I like Kubuntu so far
[04:11] <UzzaDead> nein CheeseBurgerMan
[04:11] <Sewage> DaSkreech, try closing the torrent program and restarting
[04:12] <UzzaDead> dont forget the prayer
[04:12] <Sewage> lol
[04:12] <UzzaDead> !noob
[04:12] <ubotu> I guess noob is a four letter word, just like rtfm or jfgi. Don't use it
[04:12] <UzzaDead> noob=cayou :D
[04:12] <UzzaDead> jk
[04:12] <UzzaDead> i've not even scratched the surface of kubuntu
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> chris_____: I don't use it, but I'm on AMD64, I'll see what I can find out.
[04:13] <UzzaDead> wb
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  ya still around?
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> LL
[04:13] <DaSkreech> Sewage: Yeah I know
[04:13] <cayou> How about Ubuntu? Is it only a matter of Gnome vs KDE?
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> dang DVD's..   Grrrr
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> cayou: Yep
[04:13] <Sewage> yes
[04:13] <UzzaDead> not exactly cayou..
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> cayou:  yes,.  that's all it is
[04:13] <godzero> DaSkreech: which iso are you d/ling
[04:14] <UzzaDead> but nothing is large enough to actually make that big a difference
[04:14] <cayou> You guys agree to disagree? :)
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Desktop
[04:14] <Sewage> only difference is Gnome and KDE
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> Ubuntu uses the Gnome desktop environment...
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> chris_____: download http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-dynamic
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> Kubuntu is JUST Ubuntu with K installed..
[04:14] <fentekreel> can in install debian packages?
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> that's IT
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Sewage: atil lhate having to check it every 1/2 hour
[04:14] <UzzaDead> i take it synaptic's package manager is part of gnome regardless of distro then?
[04:14] <fentekreel> i read that they could be harmful
[04:14] <godzero> DaSkreech: are you using ktorrent?
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Yes
[04:14] <UzzaDead> dont i feel like a noob again
[04:15] <cayou> I know, but is that it? Same software?
[04:15] <godzero> yep.. seen that prob
[04:15] <UzzaDead> yeah cayou
[04:15] <CaBlGuY> UzzaDead:  yes, u do feel like I newb again. ;p
[04:15] <UzzaDead> unless you run into something thats 100% gnome or kde specific
[04:15] <Sewage> I like Ktorrent, but experienced that bug once
[04:15] <cayou> well, I like KDE better (I think)
[04:15] <Sewage> One other KTorrent bug is:  sometimes, the Upload throttle will break
[04:15] <CaBlGuY> cayou:  I started out with plain Ubuntu, had Gnome for desktop..
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> cayou: you can install KDE on Ubuntu, and Gnome on Kubuntu.
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> then I decided to try K, so I sinatlled it..
[04:16] <UzzaDead> but ubuntu is uglier than i am
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> no biggie.
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: Then change the colors/theme
[04:16] <godzero> ktorrent's ui is second only to azureas, but the code's got probs
[04:16] <UzzaDead> CheeseBurgerMan: i did
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> Ubuntu is NOT ugly thank you very much..
[04:16] <cayou> UPS brown... who likes UPS anyway???
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then quit whining. ;)
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> and I have screenshots to prove it..
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:16] <UzzaDead> but the boot and login screen is god ugly  :P
[04:16] <UzzaDead> it looks like someone got the shits sitting on top of my monitor
[04:17] <Sewage> I like the KDE log in screen.  It has little bouncy icons
[04:17] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[04:17] <DaSkreech> Anyone tried Ktorrent 2.0 to see if it fixes stuff?
[04:18] <cayou> thanks guys, I'm going to bed. Next time I'll bet chatting from an 'installed' Kubuntu...
[04:18] <LeeJunFan> DaSkreech: I dunno about compiling your own but the .deb runs my cpu up to 100% every so often.
[04:18] <UzzaDead> cayou: enjoy:D
[04:18] <CaBlGuY> ok cayou anytime bro..  ;)
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> G'night, cayou. Good luck falling asleep. ;)
[04:18] <cayou> lol, good night guys
[04:18] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  U AROUND,......
[04:18] <UzzaDead> CheeseBurgerMan: if i were to install gnome on kubuntu would it have the ugly stained underpants look of ubuntu :)
[04:18] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:18] <UzzaDead> CaBlGuY: touch his server he'll be around lol
[04:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: It would ook the same as if you'd just installed Ubuntu
[04:19] <CaBlGuY> Oh yea, IM gonna do that...
[04:19] <CaBlGuY> :/
[04:19] <UzzaDead> well thats crap :( no pun intended
[04:19] <LeeJunFan> Personally I think that's a fitting color for gnome, it only lacks corn and peanut icons.
[04:20] <UzzaDead> LeeJunFan: we can fix that :D
[04:20] <UzzaDead> change the mouse pointer to a peanut
[04:20] <bohdan> hello
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hello
[04:20] <UzzaDead> hello
[04:20] <UzzaDead> is anybody in there?
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> I actually like Gnome ..  I'm a minimalist though....   I don't like a "graphical heavy" desktop..
[04:21] <UzzaDead> </pink floyd>
[04:21] <bohdan> im here
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> hello
[04:21] <GullyFoyle> Bueller?
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> me 2
[04:21] <Hawkwind> UzzaDead: No, we're all dead, now shhhhh :P
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> Noooooo!!!!  everyone is DEAD!!!
[04:21] <UzzaDead> CaBlGuY: thats because you're still running a 386 with 32mb :P
[04:21] <LeeJunFan> CaBlGuY: it's not the graphics at all, I like all the features and tools kde has.
[04:21] <bohdan> can some one provide me some help here or is there a help channel?
[04:21] <UzzaDead> this is the help channel
[04:21] <UzzaDead> of sorts
[04:22] <godzero> Bueller's sick.. almost dead I hear
[04:22] <bohdan> ooo lol couse ur here :P lol
[04:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> bohdan: This is the help channel, UzzaDead's being crazzy.
[04:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> crazy*
[04:22] <UzzaDead> being?
[04:22] <UzzaDead> i AM crazy
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> Nooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> really??  :o
[04:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Which is why you're being crazy.
[04:22] <judd> ask away.
[04:22] <bohdan> ok i have ubuntu (DUH) and i installed the kubuntu packages through the peros... and so on....
[04:22] <UzzaDead> can you wrap me in my straight jacket? im feeling a bit insecure :(
[04:22] <bohdan> it all works good
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> dangit..
[04:23] <bohdan> but i have the volume OSD hanging in the middle of my screen
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> The volcume OSD?
[04:23] <bohdan> and if i turn the volume uo it auto goes down again
[04:23] <ubuntu_> which is better, kubuntu or ubuntu? anyone?
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> bohdan:  turn it down then silly..
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> pardon the mis-spelling. :)
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: Depends on whether you like KDE or Gnome better.
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu_ your treading on sacred teritory...
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:23] <bohdan> it turns it self down
[04:24] <bohdan> like some one has jamed the vol down key in
[04:24] <ubuntu_> ya, I've heard it's a controversial topic, but forgive me I'm new at this :)
[04:24] <bohdan> but its not cause it works on gnome
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> bohdan:  whatcha bichin bout then??  :p
[04:24] <GullyFoyle> fluxbox with kde support roolz and is blazing fast
[04:24] <bohdan> lol cause i want some sound :P
[04:24] <judd> bohdan: I'm having trouble understanding your problem.
[04:24] <bohdan> and i dont like tunnel vision
[04:24] <bohdan> ok i will try again lol
[04:24] <UzzaDead> ubuntu_:  kubuntu
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu_  there both good..  Plain U come with Gnome, KU come with K obviously..  some like KDE, some like Gnome..
[04:24] <ubuntu_> I tried xubuntu but it sucked, now on kubuntu... so I haven't tried gnome yet
[04:25] <UzzaDead> unless you like scat in which case go with ubuntu
[04:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: You can install both KDE and Gnome at the same time.
[04:25] <bohdan> when you turn the vol down in kde the OSD IN KDE comes up
[04:25] <bohdan> well wen i log in mine is there constently
[04:25] <LeeJunFan> UzzaDead: scat - hehe
[04:25] <judd> bohdan: really?  Not in mine.
[04:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> bohdan: To be honest, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
[04:25] <UzzaDead> hehe
[04:25] <UzzaDead> bohdan: its broken
[04:25] <bohdan> like someone jamed the vol down button on my keyboard in
[04:25] <UzzaDead> reboot
[04:25] <bohdan> i tried that lol
[04:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: This isn't Windows. :P
[04:25] <judd> bohdan: is amarok running?
[04:25] <bohdan> if i log into nome all is good
[04:25] <ubuntu_> ok and will there be a way to switch between them? and if you can install both, why are there two versions of ubuntu/kubuntu?
[04:25] <UzzaDead> pray?
[04:26] <UzzaDead> ubuntu_:  for nubs
[04:26] <UzzaDead> like CaBlGuY
[04:26] <ubuntu_> ahhh...
[04:26] <judd> bohdan: was it always like this?
[04:26] <UzzaDead> and myself...
[04:26] <bohdan> yes since i installed it
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: You can install both. There's two because they have different default desktops. IF you know you want one, then you won't have to bother uninstalling the one you don't want.
[04:26] <ubotu> CheeseBurgerMan: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh rats.
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> That was for ubuntu_
[04:26] <judd> bohdan: Amarok is the only app I know that uses the OSD>
[04:27] <bohdan> mmm ok
[04:27] <bohdan> but i think the problem lies in the mappings for kde?
[04:27] <judd> Did your problem start when you began using Amarok?
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> judd: Konversation has one... :P
[04:27] <ubuntu_> ok, only question then is how to install gnome now?
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[04:27] <judd> CBM: for the volume?
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> No. :P
[04:27] <bohdan> because if i turn the volume up in the kmixer the slider goes back down again
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> brb
[04:27] <ubuntu_> excellent.. I'll try that after I reboot thx
[04:27] <judd> That's crazyness.
[04:28] <judd> Quick Amarok.
[04:28] <judd> Quit Amarok.
[04:28] <bohdan> lol ok well i cant use KDE because i cant see half the screen lol so i will log into it soon and try
[04:28] <judd> Go to your system settings and turn off your sound server and turn it back on.
[04:28] <bohdan> how can i change key mappings for hot-keys in kde?
[04:29] <bohdan> judd: how do i do that?
[04:29] <judd> bohdan: system settings..
[04:29] <judd> It's all in System Settings.
[04:29] <UzzaDead> well im gonna go nuke my entire drive :)
[04:29] <UzzaDead> but a quick question
[04:29] <Kadran> bohdan: do you mean for multimedia keyboard?
[04:29] <bohdan> lol ya but i cant see most of system settings becuase of this large OSD lol
[04:29] <ubuntu_> you're not steve judd?
[04:29] <UzzaDead> should i use the AMD64 Kubuntu or 32bit?
[04:29] <bohdan> DELL laptop
[04:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> System Settings > Sound & Multimedia
[04:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: What CPU do you have?
[04:29] <UzzaDead> AMD64
[04:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> bohdan: try opening console and running 'killall amarok'
[04:30] <UzzaDead> i just heard the 64bit has... issues :)
[04:30] <judd> I'm not steve judd :)
[04:30] <ubuntu_> 'k
[04:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: I use amd64
[04:30] <judd> I'm just Judd
[04:30] <ubuntu_> it was one in a million chance :)
[04:30] <bohdan> doesnt that mean i will have no sound though? lol
[04:30] <UzzaDead> found any day to day problems CheeseBurgerMan?
[04:30] <Kadran> bohdan: i like using klineakconfig for extra keys
[04:30] <judd> b: nope.  You're just restarting the SOUND server with Amarok off.
[04:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: Sure, but not many were amd64 specific.
[04:31] <judd> b: mostly, you should quit amarok, and then restart.
[04:31] <UzzaDead> ok day to day amd64 specific :)
[04:31] <bohdan> thanks kadran
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Flash and java were a problem, but I found a guide.
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, not really.
[04:31] <Kadran> bohdan: np
[04:31] <UzzaDead> hmmm
[04:31] <bohdan> judd: it happens everytime i boot though
[04:31] <ubuntu_> omg, kde ROX compared to xubuntu, very userfriendly I'm impressed..
[04:32] <bohdan> ie from the first time i installed it to now as soon as the computer has loaded
[04:32] <UzzaDead> bohdan: have you tried praying yet?
[04:32] <Travis> hey guys!
[04:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> bohdan: Run 'killall amarok'
[04:32] <judd> b: right.. but Amarok will not start automatically if you really stop it and then restart.
[04:32] <bohdan> uzzadead: lol ya i used to run windows
[04:32] <Travis> I'm in love withh linux =d
[04:32] <UzzaDead> ahahaha
[04:32] <UzzaDead> bohdan: how are you quitting amarok?
[04:32] <UzzaDead> just hitting the x in the upper right?
[04:33] <bohdan> alright thanks jubb and bugrger i will try that soon :D
[04:33] <Travis> uh, is there any way to minimize aMSN and Gaim to the taskybar thing?
[04:33] <UzzaDead> Travis: gaim has a plugin to do so
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Why bother with aMSN and Gaim? :P
[04:33] <UzzaDead> as for aMSN i couldnt say
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Gaim does MSN. ;)
[04:33] <bohdan> ouch?
[04:33] <Kadran> kopete do them all :)
[04:34] <UzzaDead> how are you quitting amarok bohdan?
[04:34] <ubuntu_> is there  akde lm_sensors viewer?
[04:34] <Travis> at the same time, cheese?  uzza: where do I get the plugin
[04:34] <bohdan> i will use the killall command but im in gnome at the moment
[04:34] <UzzaDead> it comes with it Travis
[04:34] <UzzaDead> arghhhh
[04:34] <bohdan> i cant use irc in kde cause i cant see it under the osd lol
[04:34] <UzzaDead> how did you close amarok in kde bohdan?
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> bohdan: Run 'kcontrol'
[04:34] <travis> oops.
[04:35] <UzzaDead> with the x in the upper right of the window or what?
[04:35] <judd> I poked around amarok.. it's probably not the problem.
[04:35] <bohdan> umm lol ok :| i just removed kde damn it
[04:35] <UzzaDead> judd: im thinking he just hit the x in the upper right which doesnt close amarok but only minimizes it to the tray
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> bohdan: go to KDE Components > Session Manager and set it to start iwth an empty session.
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Uh, OK
[04:35] <bohdan> lol
[04:35] <DaSkreech> ok someone was messing with my system
[04:36] <DaSkreech> You know the system tray thingy
[04:36] <DaSkreech> How do I get icons to stack?
[04:36] <ubuntu_> is there a KDE motherboard monitor?
[04:36] <UzzaDead> CheeseBurgerMan: were those problems you mentioned earlier specific to amd64 or just linux/kubuntu/ubuntu?
[04:36] <travis> so, where do I get the plugin ti minimize gaim to the taskybar, without having it clutter the windows table thing, and can gaim do msn and aim at the same time?
[04:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> The flash & java are amd64 specific.
[04:36] <bohdan> i was in the repositiories and kubuntu-desktop must of been included on of the packages i removed damn 140 mb down load to install it again :|
[04:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> travis: It should be in Settings > PLugins, and it can connect to MSN and AIM at the same time.
[04:37] <UzzaDead> odd because i tried to install flash earlier and im on 32bit ubuntu the thing wouldnt automatically install
[04:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: Hmm, flash should be easier on i386
[04:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just go amd64. :P
[04:37] <UzzaDead> will you fix any problems i have :P
[04:37] <bohdan> just on a side note, since i installed dapper i havent accualy booted windows in 6 weeks lol thats a record for me
[04:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Only if I can. ;)
[04:38] <UzzaDead> dapper hasnt been out for six weeks...
[04:38] <bohdan> alpha :P
[04:38] <UzzaDead> :)
[04:38] <bohdan> lol breezy has issues with my laptop :|
[04:38] <UzzaDead> i have no wifi with linux on my craptop :(
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> bohdan: Problems with what?
[04:38] <bohdan> and the uni i attend has ALL MIGHTY wireless security
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: What wifi card?
[04:39] <bohdan> ipw2100
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> bohdan: I assume that means WEP?
[04:39] <UzzaDead> CheeseBurgerMan:  D-Link DWL-640 REV P.1
[04:39] <bohdan> words with corp psk :D
[04:39] <bohdan> works^
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> UzzaDead: You might try ndiswrapper.
[04:39] <bohdan> no uni uses WPA-Corp
[04:39] <UzzaDead> tried it but didnt work
[04:39] <_john> ok so im here to help john out a bit but I am still a little Konfused
[04:40] <_john> where can I find Easy Kubuntu
[04:40] <bohdan> which uses  tkip, peap, eap and certs plus user authentication
[04:40] <_john> google is giving me old or bad pages
[04:40] <TheHighChild> google gave me AIDS
[04:40] <UzzaDead> dont forget the clap
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> _john: It looks like EasyKubuntu is outdated.
[04:40] <_john> i new she was toooo easy
[04:40] <bohdan> lol anyone find the bigger google gets the less useful results it returns?
[04:41] <UzzaDead> _john: http://users.on.net/~goetz/EasyUbuntu/
[04:41] <TheHighChild> bohdan I haven't gotten a decent return on google in 6 months
[04:41] <ubuntu_> easyubuntu.org
[04:41] <travis> you have to know how to google properly xD
[04:42] <UzzaDead> google is an art form
[04:42] <bohdan> travis: i know how to use google
[04:42] <UzzaDead> type in boobs and you get boobs
[04:42] <UzzaDead> its pretty easy
[04:42] <TheHighChild> I'm a decent googler but I hate getting 4 year old pages
[04:42] <bohdan> lol i hate blogs :@
[04:42] <ubuntu_> but what quality of boobs :)
[04:42] <UzzaDead> who said anything about blogs?
[04:42] <UzzaDead> ubuntu_: quality if you go to about page 8
[04:42] <travis> i love linux =D
[04:42] <bohdan> damn things you google sumthin and you get hundreds of blogs with ppl talkin bout the same issue but no answers
[04:43] <TheHighChild> The billions of pages that have every keyword in them but are nothing more than a webring or redirect. Thanks GOogle!
[04:43] <bohdan> i luv ubuntu
[04:43] <UzzaDead> i love kubuntu
[04:43] <bohdan> its like suse or fedore but fast and useful :D
[04:43] <UzzaDead> because it doesnt look like they just got done filming a german scheisse film on my monitor
[04:43] <bohdan> lol
[04:44] <TheHighChild> Fedora is worthless unless it's tailored to an environment. IMO, it, standalone, on a machine is about as useful as a lead rubber
[04:44] <bohdan> and fedora is HOW MANY DAMN CDS?
[04:45] <UzzaDead> 5 or 6..
[04:45] <bohdan> u install it and u have every progrma know to man but the ones you want
[04:45] <TheHighChild> x and x-1 too many
[04:45] <UzzaDead> i think suse tried to kill me
[04:45] <UzzaDead> i woke up one morning with a swastika for a background
[04:46] <TheHighChild> Where I work, we do custom versions of Fedora and it's great for how we use it but I've never had much of any luck with it personally
[04:46] <UzzaDead> you have a job?
[04:46] <bohdan> lol my mate downloaded the dvd of kubuntu because it had more programs i hung my head in shame....
[04:46] <TheHighChild> UzzaDead hell yeah man, what do you think I'm doin on here all day?
[04:46] <bohdan> lol and a life?
[04:46] <TheHighChild> bohdan asking a lil too much on the life
[04:46] <bohdan> lol
[04:46] <TheHighChild> my name is indicative of my life outside of work
[04:47] <UzzaDead> :D
[04:47] <bohdan> i have a life hence no irc for the last 4 yrs.... bout the time i got a gf :|
[04:47] <TheHighChild> UzzaDead passes it back in disgust
[04:47] <UzzaDead> my last gf dumped me for some football chump
[04:47] <UzzaDead> with a mustang
[04:47] <TheHighChild> My girlfriend is too busy typing this to say hi
[04:47] <bohdan> lol
[04:48] <UzzaDead> his brakes failed soon after and he ran into the back of a tractor&trailer ended up with a broken back
[04:48] <bohdan> ouch
[04:48] <UzzaDead> and me laughing like it was the worlds funniest home videos while high
[04:48] <TheHighChild> Any of you cats play Enemy Territory?
[04:48] <bohdan> UzzaDead: karma?
[04:48] <UzzaDead> indeed :D
[04:48] <UzzaDead> and ace hardware +$10 bolt cutters
[04:48] <UzzaDead> err
[04:48] <UzzaDead> i mean yes
[04:48] <UzzaDead> karma!
[04:48] <bohdan> o o o i saw a oldladdy with one of those motoscooter things they rid and the brand was karma
[04:49] <Goat-san> lol
[04:49] <UzzaDead> TheHighChild: i play it on windoze
[04:49] <TheHighChild> UzzaDead wtf would you do that for?
[04:49] <Goat-san> you didn't need bolt cutters
[04:49] <Goat-san> they are to big an obvious
[04:49] <bohdan> so how many of you in here still use windows regually because u cant do it in k/ubuntu?
[04:49] <UzzaDead> Goat-san: he was dumb as a brick
[04:49] <UzzaDead> i could have strapped c4 to his steering wheel
[04:49] <TheHighChild> bohdan total conversion with Breezy about 8 months ago, Haven't had to boot anything but since
[04:50] <UzzaDead> but in all seriousness i didnt do anything to the guy
[04:50] <Goat-san> no i was saying that other people (not football player) would notice
[04:50] <UzzaDead> they said it was horrible lack of preventive maint.
[04:50] <Goat-san> lol
[04:50] <bohdan> TheHighChild:  you play games or anything?
[04:50] <UzzaDead> thats what happens when you go 100mph+ down the highway and dont check your brakes lol
[04:50] <TheHighChild> bohdan Just Enemy Territory, nothing else worth playing with a Linux client
[04:50] <UzzaDead> quake 4!!
[04:51] <TheHighChild> bohdan my freedom is worth more than some shiatty games on Windows
[04:51] <Goat-san> spider solitare!
[04:51] <bohdan> TheHighChild: lol so you chose k/ubuntu over games?
[04:51] <bohdan> lol
[04:51] <UzzaDead> i just dual boot..
[04:51] <UzzaDead> actually triple
[04:51] <bohdan> ok what was peoples reasons from changing from windows?
[04:51] <UzzaDead> kubuntu,ubuntu,windoze
[04:51] <bohdan> or tryin k/ubuntu at least?
[04:51] <Goat-san> lol
[04:51] <TheHighChild> bohdan not totally. I just like Enemy Territory and found no need for an alternative. I run a few global servers and am just into it. So...i didn't give up on the other games. I just gave up on Windows software because it's shiat.
[04:51] <UzzaDead> too many security problems with 'doze
[04:52] <godzero> bohdan: no windows here.. but I always preffered the unix way
[04:52] <UzzaDead> even if i came on irc as root i'd probably live to see another day
[04:52] <UzzaDead> on doze if you leave your box open for the least amount of time you've got spy/ad/malware out the rear
[04:52] <UzzaDead> and probably a trojan or three
[04:53] <bohdan> i always liked *nix but was always to hard to do sumthin simple i could do in windows or i couldent deside on a distro and so would change weekly lol
[04:53] <godzero> event behind a nat.. which reaay confuses me
[04:53] <TheHighChild> bohdan I must admit, I like the command line. I'd go with OSX over Windows or Tux if I wasn't restricted on the hardware (not anymore because you cannot compile your own kernel now for OSX)
[04:53] <Goat-san> UzzaDead: if you are the type of person who would do that, you wouldn't know what linux was
[04:53] <bohdan> i work in a computer repair shop so i know *ware
[04:54] <TheHighChild> I work for a big name in computer education and our network is hit constantly. My windows laptop was hacked within 5 minutes of being on the network. Now that's some shiat
[04:54] <bohdan> lol ya
[04:54] <bohdan> though some sensible net living helps
[04:54] <UzzaDead> Goat-san?
[04:55] <bohdan> i ran NO anti spyware/virus for 6 months as a bet
[04:55] <Hawkwind> What file in Kubuntu would get edited to set global wide aliases.  Like if I wanted to type 'backup
[04:55] <godzero> bohdan: I'm talking back to the 80s... windows was always behind on whatever I was doing at the time
[04:55] <Hawkwind> Ermm damn enter key
[04:55] <Hawkwind> What file in Kubuntu would get edited to set global wide aliases.  Like if I wanted to type 'backup' and it run a command I have defined ?
[04:55] <TheHighChild> Kubuntu Breezy was the only distro where I could get help with things. Granted, a lot of things are the same in the tux world but you have to be in it before you get all of that. Frankly, no linux is for newbs but Kubuntu was better than anything else I tried.
[04:56] <bohdan> godzero: lol sorry i wensnt old enough in the 80;s
[04:56] <claydoh> Hawkwind: you will need to create a ~/.bashrc
[04:56] <UzzaDead> you probably werent even born :D
[04:56] <troy> Hawkwind: for just the user, try ~/.profile -- or for the whole system (all users), /etc/profile (unless it's different on *ubuntu than other unices)
[04:56] <bohdan> lol 86 does that count i was half born
[04:56] <bohdan> or 4/10ths born?
[04:56] <UzzaDead> lol
[04:56] <godzero> bohdan: ya, old guy here (35)
[04:56] <troy> claydoh: bashrc only works for bash though - profile will work for any shell
[04:56] <bohdan> ooo real old lol
[04:57] <Hawkwind> troy: Yeah it seems to be different. In Mandriva it's /etc/profile.d/alias.sh
[04:57] <bohdan> most the guys i work with on comps are in the 40's+ lol i feel so young and like i missed so much lol
[04:57] <UzzaDead> the kubuntu community seems pretty friendly at large :D
[04:57] <Goat-san> 35 isn't that old
[04:57] <Hawkwind> claydoh: Thanks.  I see some commented out aliases in ~/.bashrc it seems for the user account
[04:57] <Goat-san> though i'm only 21
[04:57] <Goat-san> yeah, the kubunut community is awsome
[04:57] <bohdan> lol 20 :P
[04:57] <UzzaDead> older than both of you :D
[04:57] <bohdan> yes the kubuntu community is great
[04:57] <troy> Hawkwind: .profile should still work though - at least for bash, zsh, etc.
[04:58] <Goat-san> but can any of you leg press half a ton?
[04:58] <godzero> 70's and 80's were really exciting for a geek
[04:58] <UzzaDead> i pressed a whole ton when my ex gf got on top of me :P
[04:58] <bohdan> i know lol i had a nice collection of now retro hardware lol
[04:58] <UzzaDead> i barely escaped with my life
[04:58] <Goat-san> lol
[04:58] <godzero> UzzaDead: age?
[04:59] <UzzaDead> same as troy
[04:59] <godzero> the city?
[04:59] <TheHighChild> Why o Why has the x86 arch succeeded? A little off topic but I can't help but wonder why over everything else
[04:59] <UzzaDead> the frosted north
[04:59] <bohdan> i like x86
[04:59] <bohdan> because i like bank for buck lol
[04:59] <troy> TheHighChild: because it was open to cloning
[04:59] <UzzaDead> i want a clone of myself
[04:59] <godzero> TheHighChild: cheaper
[05:00] <troy> TheHighChild: whereas other chips required too many patent hoops to jump through
[05:00] <bohdan> i can sell u a comp for $800 AUD WITH a lcd
[05:00] <TheHighChild> Fair enough
[05:00] <bohdan> apples here are $1500 for bottom of the line mini
[05:00] <godzero> big endian/ppc is way better..
[05:00] <Goat-san> linux_pimp: got any hot mommas for sale tonight
[05:00] <UzzaDead> i can sell you a computer for $250 with an LCD :P
[05:01] <linux_pimp> no
[05:01] <bohdan> lol new :P
[05:01] <UzzaDead> yeah new :P
[05:01] <TheHighChild> UzzaDead I can sell you guys anything you want for any price you want. Will that be cash or money order?
[05:01] <UzzaDead> $200 for the LCD and $50 for the NOS 486 parts :D
[05:01] <UzzaDead> maybe pentium if im feeling nice
[05:01] <Sewage> !numlock
[05:01] <ubotu> numlock is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock
[05:01] <bohdan> LOL
[05:01] <TheHighChild> I hate people that are smart in Windows.
[05:02] <bohdan> i can GIVE you a pent lol
[05:02] <bohdan> i am smart in windows
[05:02] <bohdan> uber smart lol
[05:02] <Sewage> how do you make it so numlock is on by default
[05:02] <UzzaDead> Sewage: in the keyboard section of system settings
[05:02] <bohdan> i can remove 98% of virus and spyware with no antispwyare or antivirus tools :P
[05:02] <Sewage> UzzaDead, ty
[05:02] <UzzaDead> bohdan: thats just sad :)
[05:02] <bohdan> i know
[05:02] <Goat-san> its called google
[05:03] <bohdan> lol and it doesnt even pay good to know it
[05:03] <UzzaDead> not like pimpin :D
[05:03] <bohdan> ya but i can do it without a net connection :P
[05:03] <UzzaDead> get back on that corner bohdan!
[05:03] <TheHighChild> Everyone around here uses Windows, for everything and this is supposed to be one of the best computer schools in the country (tied for first). Our entire infrastructure is Linux and Unix but absolutely every phd student runs around with their Dell running Windows. wtf!
[05:03] <bohdan> lol
[05:03] <Sewage> a Windows user wouldve said "I hate Linux.  THe Numlock key is always off"
[05:03] <Sewage> instead of saying "I wonder if theres a way to change it"
[05:03] <godzero> TheHighChild: where?
[05:03] <bohdan> lol or i hate nix cause i cant play my games
[05:03] <Random_Transit> hey, this may sound like a noob question...but is there any way to upgrade from breezy to dapper without losing data?
[05:04] <UzzaDead> Sewage: i'd just wire a 5v supply into the LED in the keyboard :D
[05:04] <bohdan> thats y every person i know dual boots lol
[05:04] <UzzaDead> then i've got my numlock light :D
[05:04] <imbrandon> !upgrade
[05:04] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[05:04] <Sewage> lol
[05:04] <bohdan> lol Uzzadead is smart
[05:04] <TheHighChild> godzero CMU School of Computer Science
[05:04] <Goat-san> i hate dual booting
[05:04] <UzzaDead> bohdan: smart ass maybe :P
[05:04] <Goat-san> well i hate rebooting in general
[05:04] <bohdan> uOW School of Comp Sci lol
[05:04] <godzero> Random_Transit: that's the preferred way.. so yes
[05:04] <UzzaDead> i didnt even graduate high school :P
[05:04] <imbrandon> UzzaDead: watch the lang please
[05:04] <Random_Transit> ok..thanks
[05:04] <UzzaDead> !language
[05:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[05:05] <bohdan> ooo warning lol
[05:05] <UzzaDead> err underpants i meant
[05:05] <TheHighChild> knickers
[05:05] <UzzaDead> shhh :P
[05:05] <Random_Transit> i like this channel so much more than the original ubuntu channel....too crowded and chaotic in there
[05:05] <bohdan> lol underwear is generic :P
[05:05] <bohdan> ya also there talkin bout macs nostop or were 5 mins ago lol
[05:05] <Goat-san> i guess thats fair
[05:06] <UzzaDead> imbrandon sorry about the language :D
[05:06] <imbrandon> and please take non support stuff to #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[05:06] <Goat-san> lol
[05:06] <bohdan> ok
[05:06] <UzzaDead> so no underwear talk then eh?
[05:06] <godzero> uzz! lol
[05:06] <UzzaDead> what godzero?
[05:07] <godzero> oh your joke.. whatevere
[05:08] <bohdan> damn banned
[05:08] <_john> ok well oh guess what I found
[05:08] <Desh> Hello?
[05:08] <godzero> Anyone here been to #kubuntu 1 year or more ago?
[05:08] <UzzaDead> nah
[05:08] <_john> http://olwin.free.fr/  has a link labeled ici   which has easykubuntu for dapper
[05:08] <UzzaDead> we got banned bohdan!
[05:08] <bohdan> ya i know :(
[05:08] <UzzaDead> thats not very friendly of them
[05:08] <bohdan> i know
[05:08] <bohdan> thats harsh
[05:08] <Goat-san> you weren't banned
[05:08] <Goat-san> you just couldn't talk
[05:08] <bohdan> it was kubuntu and offtopic related and had no bad words
[05:09] <TheHighChild> I was removed as well, I didn't even say anything
[05:09] <_john> !easy
[05:09] <ubotu> _john: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:09] <UzzaDead> Goat-san: we got banned and removed
[05:09] <_john> !easykubuntu
[05:09] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _john
[05:09] <imbrandon> !easybuntu
[05:09] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, imbrandon
[05:09] <imbrandon> !easyubuntu
[05:09] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[05:09] <_john> hey maybe someone can add easykubuntu as this is after all not #ubuntu
[05:09] <_john> http://olwin.free.fr/  has a link labeled ici   which has easykubuntu for dapper
[05:10] <bohdan> lol anyone try installin ati drivers in the dapper alpha?
[05:10] <UzzaDead> i dont touch ati :D
[05:10] <bohdan> i did
[05:10] <Travis> kwhere under kcontrol is the resolution?
[05:10] <UzzaDead> not with a 10 foot pole
[05:10] <bohdan> lol turns out the first beta included them in the non-free but i had min custom compiled and so it killed my xserver
[05:11] <Travis> dotdotdot
[05:11] <D0M1N8R> arg my 160G seagate drive just not playing very friendly on this kubuntu. Just booted off linspire live and it sees it fine.
[05:11] <troy> ati fglrx drivers work fine for me now from the packages...
[05:12] <bohdan> ya they work now troy lol
[05:12] <D0M1N8R> the drive is not partitioned yet or formated
[05:12] <bohdan> oo seagate good choice
[05:12] <godzero> fglrx isn't playing nice with my 9200 as of the 2nd
[05:12] <UzzaDead> D0M1N8R: pata or sata??
[05:12] <nocloud> does anybody know how to create keyboard shortcuts to go to different desktops?
[05:12] <D0M1N8R> Its IDE
[05:12] <UzzaDead> that would be pata..
[05:12] <D0M1N8R> k
[05:12] <UzzaDead> mines sata and works well
[05:12] <troy> nocloud: like CTRL-F#  (where # is desktop #)
[05:13] <UzzaDead> what do you mean not playing very friendly?
[05:13] <D0M1N8R> in /dev it shows up
[05:13] <D0M1N8R> but cfdisk comes up with some error when trying to access it
[05:13] <UzzaDead> hmm
[05:13] <UzzaDead> try fdisk then :)
[05:13] <D0M1N8R> and cfdisk on linspire had no issues
[05:13] <UzzaDead> fdisk is your friend
[05:14] <D0M1N8R> he is?
[05:14] <D0M1N8R> =)
[05:14] <UzzaDead> ye
[05:14] <UzzaDead> s
[05:14] <bohdan> mmm anyone here used a usb dvd-rw?
[05:14] <D0M1N8R> alright rebooting to say hi to him
[05:14] <UzzaDead> enjoy
[05:14] <UzzaDead> not me
[05:14] <UzzaDead> mines ide
[05:14] <Hawkwind> We wish you all the best :P
[05:14] <Hawkwind> Hey there dr_willis
[05:14] <Travis> hey, thanks for the help you guys gave me last night.
[05:14] <bohdan> i have a laptop so usb is my own option
[05:15] <dr_willis> Moo!
[05:15] <UzzaDead> bohdan: it'll probably work just fine with no horrible configuring
[05:15] <bohdan> ya but i cant access it lol
[05:15] <Hawkwind> Shhhh, Desh is back :)
[05:15] <nocloud> wait, so does the control f# shortcut work already?
[05:15] <D0M1N8R> atleast kubuntu seems to be a quicker booter
[05:15] <nocloud> or do i have to configure it
[05:16] <nocloud> oh wow
[05:16] <nocloud> thanks :)
[05:16] <Hawkwind> mikejb: Identity crisis or what ?
[05:16] <bohdan> on /dev/dvdrw it compails it is a usb device
[05:16] <mikejb> hawkwind: nickserv complained. sorry
[05:16] <Desh> Hawkwind: ?
[05:16] <Desh> :(?
[05:16] <Hawkwind> mikejb: Ahhh, he's picky
[05:17] <Hawkwind> Desh: Heh, just giving you a hard time :P
[05:17] <troy> nocloud: you can change 'em someplace if you don't like that - just can't remember where it is at the moment...
[05:17] <godzero> nocloud: not bad ey?
[05:17] <Desh> :( My repositries or something keeps getting used by some app. :(
[05:17] <Hawkwind> Desh: Adept ?
[05:17] <bohdan> lol or the update util?
[05:17] <Desh> No, I open Adept and it tells me I will not be able to remove or add packages
[05:18] <Desh> I think I set the update util not to boot
[05:18] <Hawkwind> Desh: If you used Adept it's possible it locked it if you didn't exit cleanly I think
[05:18] <Hawkwind> Ohhh
[05:18] <Desh> Oh, yeah that's probably it.
[05:18] <Desh> It locks up when I try to install sun-java5-bin and jre
[05:18] <troy> nocloud: kcontrol->Regional and Accessibility->Keyboad Shortcuts->Shortcut Sequences (scroll down)
[05:18] <imbrandon> Desh: you need to install those by hand
[05:18] <Hawkwind> There was discussion in here last night on how to fix that.  I don't recall how to do it though
[05:18] <nocloud> ooh, thanks
[05:18] <nocloud> i'll go check that out
[05:19] <Hawkwind> Desh: Yeah like imbrandon stated you have to install those via CLI
[05:19] <Desh> Oh, ok.
[05:19] <Hawkwind> It's quick and simple if you follow the website instructions
[05:19] <bohdan> theres a repos with it in it isnt there?
[05:19] <Hawkwind> !java
[05:19] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:19] <troy> nocloud: but the current shortcuts work for me - good to have the numbers associated with the desktops...
[05:19] <imbrandon> !sun-java5-jre
[05:19] <D0M1N8R> fdisk says unable to open /dev/hda
[05:19] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre is probably ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal
[05:19] <mikejb> Desh: try aptitude. it's a nice text-mode GUI... seems to work pretty well for these things
[05:20] <troy> D0M1N8R: probably /dev/sda instead
[05:20] <Desh> WHat is the command to get rid of a package? like a purge? I have broken installations of the two.
[05:20] <Desh> dpkg -r -purge packagename?
[05:20] <imbrandon> Desh: sudo apt-get --purge remove <pkgname>
[05:20] <D0M1N8R> its pata though and /dev/hda does exist
[05:20] <bimberi> Desh: sudo aptitude purge <package>
[05:20] <Desh> AH ok, thanks.
[05:20] <troy> oh, heh - /me has no clue then
[05:21] <mikejb> anyone know anything about openGL?
[05:21] <imbrandon> D0M1N8R: what does "fdisk -l" list it as ?
[05:21] <mikejb> I've got an i810 card that refuses to do hardware rendering, and the software rendering is all screwed up
[05:21] <D0M1N8R> fdisk -l has no output
[05:22] <D0M1N8R> fdisk -l /dev/hda says cant open
[05:22] <D0M1N8R> cfdisk says cant open
[05:22] <Desh> Woo, got to love CLI.
[05:22] <imbrandon> D0M1N8R: try "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:22] <mikejb> bzflag renders the ground ok, but objects only appear on the left half of the screen. opengl screensavers only use the top half of the screen.
[05:22] <D0M1N8R> wow so no used to using the sudo
[05:23] <Desh> How do I make firefox use my newly acquired Sun Java JRE?
[05:23] <imbrandon> D0M1N8R: you said its usb right ? its not hda then, most likely /dev/sda
[05:23] <D0M1N8R> just did sudo cfdisk and works fine
[05:23] <mikejb> Desh: I think there's a sun-java5-plugin package, too
[05:23] <D0M1N8R> its IDE
[05:23] <UzzaDead> i'll be back
[05:23] <imbrandon> Desh: read the bootom of the restricted formats page
[05:23] <Hawkwind> Desh: Read the sun java link
[05:23] <UzzaDead> D0M1N8R: good luck with your issue
[05:23] <Desh> Ok, thanks.
[05:24] <imbrandon> D0M1N8R: is it the master on the primary channel or secondard on primary chan or pri on sec chan or sec on sec chan ?
[05:24] <D0M1N8R> its master on primary
[05:24] <imbrandon> and your booted from it right now ?
[05:25] <imbrandon> ok i missed the begning whats your issue ?
[05:25] <D0M1N8R> no im booted onto the kubuntu live
[05:25] <D0M1N8R> I just partitioned the drive
[05:26] <D0M1N8R> your sudo suggestion worked
[05:26] <thompa> for realplaer i used the realone.com instructions, the restricted-formats page is cumbersome
[05:26] <imbrandon> ??
[05:26] <thompa> if you do as it said it wont work period
[05:26] <_john> ok so now johns sound works relatively properly
[05:27] <thompa> also the whole java part is wrong too
[05:27] <_john> easykubuntu installed kaffiene and real player. for some reason real player plays the mp3s on the hard drive just fine but the kaffiene does not.
[05:27] <bohdan> anyone used the http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ repos?
[05:27] <bohdan> to instal real and w32codecs??
[05:27] <thompa> _john: i had the same thing
[05:28] <bohdan> i did that and i can play every format on mine in mplayer / totem
[05:28] <thompa> but i only followed the restricted formats page, i had to remove kaffeine
[05:28] <imbrandon> John you most likely need libxine-extracodecs as the wiki states
[05:29] <imbrandon> thompa: what are you talking about, specificaly what is wrong about it, i just followed it a little while ago just fine
[05:29] <thompa> kaffeine would interfere with some real audio sites like all the bbc ones
[05:29] <_john> how can I get stats on the network card full duplex or not 10MB or 100MB and those kind of details
[05:29] <imbrandon> John ifconfig
[05:29] <thompa> but if i just download from realone.com it works for some reason
[05:29] <_john> it just seems to take quite a long time for simple web pages to load
[05:30] <thompa> imbrandon: i di d not need libstdc++5 either
[05:31] <_john> nope ifconfig does not list duplex or MB rate
[05:32] <imbrandon> good thompa but if you follow the wiki you do
[05:32] <thompa> i followed the resricted formats page
[05:33] <imbrandon> John then i dont know, but even at half duplex and 10mb connection is still faster than your cable or dsl connection so it shouldent affect your website load times
[05:33] <bohdan> you know kubuntu and ubuntu channels are both talkin bout codecs
[05:33] <godzero> cpu time is often my bottleneck on html loads
[05:33] <thompa> imbranson: also the bbc site has some sort of web based real player
[05:34] <thompa> i think its different
[05:34] <Desh> Ok, even though I told it not to, every time I open a folder with Konqueror they open in new windows. how can I make them open in new tabs?
[05:34] <thompa> !codecs
[05:34] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories. Also refer to !restricted
[05:35] <thompa> wierd
[05:35] <thompa> CTRl + T
[05:35] <Desh> Even though I told it not to, every time I open a folder with Konqueror they open in new windows. how can I make them open in new tabs?
[05:35] <_john> so amarok tries to connect to the stream source but doesnt
[05:35] <_john> any suggestiopns?
[05:35] <imbrandon> !repeat
[05:36] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Please give it 10 to 15 minutes before asking a second time, thanks.
[05:36] <thompa> o h you mean by default , maybe settings i guess
[05:36] <Desh> :(
[05:36] <imbrandon> John what kind of steam , what error
[05:36] <imbrandon> stream*
[05:37] <thompa> did you try settings: configure konqueror?
[05:37] <_john> no error complaint - in konqueror I went to shout cast .com and clicked on a tune-in link and it launched amarok
[05:37] <Desh> Yes.
[05:37] <thompa> well why dont you just do new tab then
[05:37] <Travis> what is amarok?
[05:38] <Travis> is it a media player?
[05:38] <thompa> its just as much effort
[05:38] <_john> the amarok banner is at the top of my screen and if I go back to amarok from the panel, the sections do not refresh
[05:38] <Desh> No, but I'd like it to open in new tabs.
[05:38] <imbrandon> John did you "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" you will need that for amarok to play mp3's or mp3 streams
[05:38] <Desh> But it won't.
[05:38] <Travis> Hey, what media player do you reccomend?
[05:38] <thompa> Desh: how do you open now?
[05:38] <thompa> vlc media player, i lik,e
[05:38] <Desh> I click on the folder and it opens in a new window.
[05:38] <imbrandon> amarok
[05:38] <thompa> oh the icon
[05:39] <Travis> other than amarok..there was one that started with a K that my friend said was great
[05:39] <imbrandon> kaffeine
[05:39] <Hawkwind> kaffeine
[05:39] <Travis> ahh thats it, thanks lots
[05:40] <thompa> Desh: try configure toolbar
[05:41] <_Pete_> Mornng
[05:41] <Travis> where do I get AAC support
[05:41] <Desh> thompa: what do I do here?
[05:41] <_Pete_> how do I disable artsd in KDE ?
[05:41] <_Pete_> and setup sound system so it directly uses ALSA
[05:41] <thompa> there is a new tab icon, make a toolbar
[05:41] <thompa> if its the button you want
[05:42] <Desh> I have it, but I'd like foler to automatically open in a new tab, like they did in Breezy.
[05:42] <Travis> where do I get AAC support?
[05:42] <Travis> For Kaffeine?
[05:43] <imbrandon> travis try faad
[05:44] <Travis> faad?
[05:44] <CaBlGuY-SleeP> night all...
[05:44] <thompa> Desh: i have open new tab icon, and it goes to balnc, so you want same location?
[05:44] <imbrandon> faad == aac/mp4 codec lib thing
[05:44] <thompa> blank sorry
[05:44] <Travis> $ sudo apt-get install faad?
[05:45] <imbrandon> gnight all, travis, thats and search the wiki, the wiki isa new personas friend
[05:45] <_john> what do I do about this
[05:45] <Desh> No I have that too, but on Breezy, if I clicked on a folder on the dekstop, it opened a window. then if I clicked another one, it opened in a tab in the same window. But now, the folders would open in diff windows.
[05:45] <_john> Setting up msttcorefonts (1.2ubuntu3) ...
[05:45] <_john> warning: /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype does not exist or is not a directory
[05:45] <_john> These fonts were provided by Microsoft "in the interest of cross-
[05:45] <_john> platform compatibility".  This is no longer the case, but they are
[05:45] <_john> still available from third parties.
[05:45] <imbrandon> John about what ?
[05:45] <imbrandon> !paste
[05:45] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:45] <_john> ooooops
[05:45] <CaBlGuY-SleeP> !tell _john about pastebin
[05:45] <_john> it looked like 3 lines
[05:45] <CaBlGuY-SleeP> yea...
[05:45] <CaBlGuY-SleeP> anyway...
[05:45] <CaBlGuY-SleeP> night all
[05:45] <Travis> Where can I find faad?
[05:45] <thompa> Desh: nevermind i see, its when you click on an icon or folder in the konqueror window
[05:46] <godzero> CaBlGuY-SleeP: night
[05:46] <thompa> if i right click i have open new tab
[05:46] <Desh> Not in the konqueror window, like on the dekstop.
[05:46] <imbrandon> travis search for it in adept or on the wiki
[05:46] <thompa> right
[05:46] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: no
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Joker
[05:46] <Travis> alright
[05:47] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: I meant a long time ag o today
[05:47] <thompa> Desh: that sounds like kde settings to me then, other thant that. no clue
[05:47] <imbrandon> John what were you running when you got that message ?
[05:47] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: not that I rememeber
[05:47] <Desh> Ok, thanks anyways. :)
[05:47] <_john> ok so that was installing the extra-codecs and runs into that error dpkg: error processing msttcorefonts (--configure): and subprocess returned error code 1
[05:48] <Travis> what is adept?
[05:48] <imbrandon> Travis: adept is the package manager in kde, look in your kde menu
[05:48] <_john> Travis: the gui for teh apt package manager
[05:48] <Travis> oh..how do I get there? XD
[05:48] <imbrandon> the k menu
[05:49] <Travis> k,. do you guys know about the Linux Google?
[05:49] <imbrandon> yes
[05:49] <Travis> its pretty cool.
[05:51] <_john> ok so with a fresh konquerer I went to shoutcast again and it launched amarok which seemed to get a tad further but still seems to hang with connecting to stream source
[05:52] <barros_> I'm trying to compile rt2570 as module in my kernel but it is not compiling.. it is marked as module, but nothing is touched.. anyone knows something about this?
[05:53] <Travis> how about flash suppoprt? I went into synapsis and did all the flash stuff
[05:53] <thompa> gzine also is messing up real audio
[05:53] <_john> maybe I have to get this package msttcorefonts installed somehow
[05:54] <imbrandon> Travis: 99% of what your asking is awnserd on this page .......
[05:54] <imbrandon> !restricted
[05:54] <thompa> it cuts off real player, and wont play the site
[05:54] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:54] <Travis> XDDD I'm sorry, I'm not really even paying attention -.-
[05:54] <thompa> im going to purge gzine for good
[05:55] <godzero> good night all
[05:55] <thompa> i think its maybe the default settings but i dont know
[05:55] <Travis> linux firefox = hate myspace
[05:55] <thompa> murdock-space
[05:55] <thompa> they are watching you
[06:00] <barros_> got that.. :D forget to enable usb network framework
[06:00] <raw-bean> hello. Is there any applet which can allow me to change the cpu scaling governor for each detected CPU on my system ? klaptop only does it for the first CPU.
[06:01] <KuLover> Has anyone else installed firefox from source?
[06:01] <bigredradio> I'm looking for a fast mirror in southern california. Anyone have any suggestions?
[06:02] <raw-bean> Woe is me. Isn't there anyone using kubuntu on a dual core laptop ?
[06:02] <timbba> Does anyone know how to get konsole program work by clicking shortcut on desktop? I have created a shortcut and tell it to open it in konsole, but I get an error "Konsole is unable to open a PTY...."
[06:03] <timbba> adding: normally the program works in konsole: "sh xxxx.sh"
[06:03] <barros_> wel, lets try one more reboot.. brb
[06:04] <bigredradio> timbba: Do you want it on the desktop of kpanel
[06:04] <luisito> well, the new kubuntu is really great!!
[06:05] <timbba> No.. i have the shortcut on main screen..
[06:05] <bigredradio> Anyone know of a fast mirror so I can download the latest iso?
[06:06] <timbba> or do you mean in the below to kpanel? or do you mean that i use kpanel?
[06:06] <bigredradio> right click, I think there is "create link to application"
[06:06] <timbba> yes, i have do that
[06:06] <timbba> and tell it to open in konsole..
[06:06] <bigredradio> All it does is launch the app. Try launching it from a console first. Does that work
[06:07] <timbba> konsole screen shows and tells the error
[06:07] <bigredradio> What is the full error
[06:07] <Sewage> in Konqueror, can you configure each folder indiviudally. like some show icons, others show list
[06:07] <timbba> > "Konsole is unable to open a PTY(pseudo teletype). it is likely that this
[06:07] <timbba> > is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to
[06:07] <timbba> > have read/write access to the PTY devices"
[06:08] <bigredradio> Do you have permission to access a new pty device?
[06:08] <timbba> I'm not sure..
[06:08] <bigredradio> ls -la /dev/pty*
[06:09] <bigredradio> Then see what the group/user permissions are. It will be owned by root.
[06:09] <barros_> almost there.. now I got everything working, except the splash screen..
[06:09] <barros_> I got a black screen, it try to display something, but nothing is showed..
[06:10] <barros_> any hints?
[06:10] <timbba> yes... there are plenty of ptys.. and all have the "crw-rw-rw-" access
[06:10] <luisito> how can i disable the status bar in konqueror?
[06:11] <bigredradio> check /etc/securetty and see if there are entries for pty0/8
[06:11] <fentekreel> can someone help me get vnc working ?
[06:12] <DaSkreech> How do I set the System "tray" to stack?
[06:12] <fentekreel> i just need to know how to set it up
[06:12] <fentekreel> i've got the ports forwarded and such
[06:12] <timbba> there are not entries of ptys
[06:13] <bigredradio> What is there (not totally familiar with kubuntu)
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Anyone know about the System Tray
[06:13] <DaSkreech>  I just checked and that's actualyl what it is kalled :-)
[06:13] <timbba> there are access.conf, group.conf, limits.conf, pam_env.conf and time.conf files
[06:14] <bigredradio> Sorry timbba, but I do not have a system in front of me. You might need to google for the exect error.
[06:15] <timbba> ok, thanks for help anyway :)
[06:17] <linuxmonkey> bigredradio: if you go to ubuntu.com in the download section, most of those servers have kubuntu as well, you just got to change directory
[06:18] <linuxmonkey> im out for the night guys, ttyl
[06:19] <Sewage> in Konqueror, can you configure each folder indiviudally. like some show icons, others show list
[06:22] <zaphabone> I'm having a problem where my video/keyboard driver seem to screw up when I drop to the login screen when I "end current session", but it boots just fine.. any ideas?
[06:23] <scarn> anyway to fix the clock always going to UTC?
[06:24] <judd>  
[06:24] <judd> 
[06:25] <scarn> always having to reset my clock in windows after returning from kubuntu is a pain in the ass. its whats keeping me from totaly commiting to kubuntu
[06:26] <LeeJunFan> scarn: sudo tzconfig
[06:26] <frank_> scarn: there is a way to have linux leave the BIOS clock to UTC but I'm not sure how.
[06:27] <judgen> anyone know of a free website provider, like xoom was along ago.
[06:27] <astro1bill> anyone know how to get a list of networks.  I would like to connect to undernet, but I can't figure out how to do it with this new 'konversation' client.
[06:28] <LeeJunFan> judgen: apt-get install apache ? :)
[06:28] <judgen> LeeJunFan i dont want to put a site on my computer.. i want a site to host my install script....
[06:28] <D0M1N8R> google free hosting
[06:28] <judgen> astro1bill does not /server irc.undernet.org work?
[06:29] <LeeJunFan> astro1bill: http://www.undernet.org/servers.php
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Ok Kubuntu needs to stop doing that
[06:31] <scarn> LeeJunFan, ty ill give that a try. probably wait for the cd to be delivered 8)
[06:31] <D0M1N8R> burnt 2 copies of kubuntu and randomly having boot issues. Just replaced the CDRom with spear one laying around after checking the MD5 on iso and cd. Looks like its already quick boot is working even faster now with no hickups!
[06:31] <muesli> hey guys
[06:32] <muesli> how can i force kubuntu to boot up in textmode (no vga mode)
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> muesli: is it installed or running live CD?
[06:32] <muesli> installed
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> muesli: rm -f /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm
[06:32] <D0M1N8R> spoke to soon.. usb kb/mouse just died
[06:33] <_john> so is  automount the floppy when a disc is put into it
[06:33] <muesli> LeeJunFan: no, i'm actually talking about the kernel
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Yeah Kubuntu freezes up on me every now and again
[06:33] <muesli> it scrambles my screen the very moment vmlinuz gets loaded
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Why did Open office's name change?
[06:34] <_john> I mean is there a way  automount the floppy when a disc is put into the floppy drive
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> muesli: ah, you mean the graphical boot progress bar thing?
[06:34] <muesli> yes
[06:34] <muesli> i tried playing with the vga parameter
[06:34] <muesli> but it just seems to ignore it
[06:34] <muesli> interestingly the installer worked fine
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> muesli: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the quiet and splash args
[06:36] <vinboy> hi
[06:37] <vinboy> how do I change the owner of  a directory using NTFS filesystem?
[06:37] <vinboy> bcoz i need to share it thru Samba
[06:37] <stn> in your filesystem
[06:37] <judgen> muesli just choose in the bootup of kdm to choose cli instead
[06:37] <stn> or in samba
[06:37] <muesli> judgen: well, i don't even get that far ;-)
[06:38] <judgen> ok
[06:38] <muesli> cause my screen is scrambled
[06:38] <muesli> ;-)
[06:38] <muesli> so all i can do is passing manual kernel parameters
[06:38] <judgen> any good soul want to host a 200kb file for me?
[06:38] <muesli> and i'm yet looking for the right one
[06:39] <Travis> judgen
[06:39] <Travis> ill do it O_O
[06:39] <muesli> judgen: opensource related?
[06:39] <judgen> nice Travis
[06:39] <judgen> its just my install script
[06:40] <judgen> and an coloscheme
[06:40] <Travis> uh, send? you mean host on a webserver right
[06:40] <judgen> yes
[06:40] <Travis> ok, send it over
[06:40] <Travis> !pint
[06:40] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Travis
[06:40] <Travis> !ping
[06:40] <ubotu> pong
[06:40] <Travis> !ping
[06:40] <Travis> !ping
[06:40] <Hobbsee> !msgthebot
[06:40] <judgen> Travis im sending,..
[06:40] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:41] <Travis> ...its not saying anything about a file transfer O_O
[06:41] <judgen> Travis got im?
[06:41] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee!
[06:41] <Travis> aim.travisimoo msn.travisimoo@gmail.com
[06:42] <Hobbsee> hey LeeJunFan
[06:42] <Hobbsee> Travis: what are you trying to do?
[06:42] <judgen> Hobbsee i am trying to sen a file
[06:42] <Travis> oh, I'm hosting a file for judgen
[06:42] <Hobbsee> oh ok
[06:42] <judgen> Travis i have added you to im
[06:42] <Hobbsee> there's the pastebin, you know
[06:42] <Travis> which one o.o
[06:43] <judgen> msn.travismoo@gmail.com
[06:43] <Travis> uhhh, make sure you didn't add the msn. part
[06:43] <judgen> rofl
[06:43] <Travis> just travisimoo@gmail.com , for my MSN
[06:43] <judgen> i know
[06:43] <Travis> haha ok :P
[06:44] <Hobbsee> yay!  the filter finally worked.
[06:44] <Travis> i didn't get a noticeee, ahh brb i need nachooz
[06:44] <Hobbsee> Travis: any of them?
[06:45] <judgen> Travis i sent an email instead to your gmail.. seems that my im client is messing with me
[06:47] <judgen> oooh soon i have downloaded an entire documentary series about the industrial revolution in england.
[06:47] <judgen> how bloody nice
[06:47] <Travis> judgen, I'm still yet to get the email o.o
[06:47] <TheHighChild> lol, what's the flick?
[06:47] <Travis> Travisimoo@gmail.com . . .maybe i typod it
[06:48] <TheHighChild> Anyone use a dynamic DNS service?
[06:50] <D0M1N8R> k so I formated /dev/hda1 with reseir4 and now starting install and it wants to re-format it as ext3
[06:50] <D0M1N8R> I want reseir4 damit
[06:50] <D0M1N8R> =)
[06:50] <LeeJunFan> D0M1N8R: why?
[06:50] <D0M1N8R> cuz I do
[06:50] <LeeJunFan> D0M1N8R: is it the bugs or the slower speeds you want? :p
[06:51] <D0M1N8R> ext3 is suppose to be faster?
[06:51] <Goat-san> lol
[06:51] <D0M1N8R> reseir4 for me seems to be reliable. No issues yet
[06:51] <Sewage> Why did Kubuntu remove some Konqueror features
[06:51] <D0M1N8R> and this is not a critical install
[06:51] <LeeJunFan> D0M1N8R: recent benchmarks have shown it to be on almost all operations.
[06:52] <Goat-san> i dont know about speed, but ext3 is ALOT more safe/secure
[06:52] <LeeJunFan> Sewage: ask Riddell some time when he's on. To make it less confusing. :p
[06:52] <Sewage> Whos' that
[06:52] <Sewage> I just want to be able to configure individual folders
[06:52] <Sewage> so some show icon view, others show list view, etc
[06:53] <D0M1N8R> I am leaning on speed though. Dont care bout safe and as I said so far so good with the experamental resier4
[06:53] <LeeJunFan> Sewage: rm -f /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings and cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror.rc
[06:53] <TheHighChild> Anyone know, off hand how to change the default file listing of Konqueor. I wasn't able to find it
[06:53] <defrysk> D0M1N8R, reiser 4 does not work with grus so keep your /boot on something else or switch to lilo
[06:53] <defrysk> grub*
[06:53] <LeeJunFan> Sewage: -rf that is
[06:53] <Sewage> LeeJunFan, thx. how did you find that
[06:53] <Sewage> rm -rf?
[06:54] <LeeJunFan> Sewage: I think it's in the kubuntu.org faq, but I've known it for a while.
[06:54] <Sewage> cool thx
[06:54] <LeeJunFan> Sewage: yeah, kubuntu-default-settings is a dir.
[06:54] <D0M1N8R> linspire was using grub/optional reseir4 and no issues
[06:54] <Sewage> and is that a bug or a feature
[06:54] <D0M1N8R> only on there five-0 V2 has it stopped installing with reseir4
[06:55] <defrysk> enyway xfs seemt to be the fastest
[06:55] <defrysk> seems*
[06:55] <defrysk> and I dont care
[06:55] <Sewage> obviously a feature
[06:55] <Sewage> hence the -orig
[06:56] <LeeJunFan> Sewage: right.
[06:56] <LeeJunFan> Sewage: some things were removed so as not to confuse people with too many options.
[06:56] <Sewage> oh
[06:56] <Sewage> like Windows users
[06:56] <TheHighChild> !help
[06:56] <LeeJunFan> Sewage: personally I don't agree at all with that, but at least it's an easy fix.
[06:56] <defrysk> Sewage, options are optional
[06:57] <TheHighChild> Sorry guys, new to IRC. How do I set myself away?
[06:57] <LeeJunFan> TheHighChild: /away
[06:57] <TheHighChild> rather, where can I look up the commands/options available
[06:58] <TheHighChild> LeeJunFan when I do that, it says 'You are not marked as being away'
[06:58] <LeeJunFan> TheHighChild: /away [reason] 
[06:58] <TheHighChild> Sorry again for the noob questions
[06:58] <TheHighChild> awesome, thanks!
[06:59] <D0M1N8R> so kubuntu wants ext3 or nothing eh =,(
[06:59] <Search4Lancer> so.... how do I extract an .ace file?
[07:00] <LeeJunFan> D0M1N8R: I really don't know, I would imagine there would be a way to do any FS you want, but I've not tried anything else since switching to kubuntu.
[07:01] <Sewage> I like extra options.  What other apps have been changed
[07:01] <D0M1N8R> Ill search around and see what I trip over
[07:01] <Sewage> that fix worked
[07:01] <D0M1N8R> probably need to use the non graphical installer or something
[07:01] <Sewage> I guess I can just search for -orig
[07:02] <defrysk> Search4Lancer, sudo apt-get install unace
[07:02] <defrysk> Search4Lancer, restart konq and all should be well
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> Sewage: afaik that's it. I did a find for orig once too and came up blank.
[07:03] <Sewage> I guess thats it
[07:03] <Sewage> lol
[07:04] <noaXess_kubuntu> !ati
[07:04] <ubotu> [ati]  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:05] <judgen> rofl after 30 minutes of using windows i got a virus eating my .exe files
[07:05] <Travis> gnight erryone
[07:05] <judgen> im never going back to windows again
[07:05] <jaychamp> Can someone possibly help a linux newb out here
[07:05] <Hobbsee> !helpme
[07:05] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[07:05] <judgen> jaychamp sure, what is your problem
[07:06] <Hobbsee> Travis: please kill those away messages.
[07:06] <jaychamp> Have a compaq, that has an rf kill switch for my wlan
[07:06] <Travis> Sorry, its auto when i set away.
[07:06] <judgen> haha i have scanned 1% of my windows drive and now i have 900 infected files
[07:06] <Hobbsee> Travis: :) so i figured.  please turn it off
[07:06] <defrysk> Travis, dont set away then
[07:06] <jaychamp> cannot find out how to get it activated
[07:06] <judgen> rofl windows sux ballz
[07:06] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:06] <Hobbsee> defrysk: by all means, set away...just dont get it to output a message with it
[07:06] <Travis> well it only does it ONCE, but I wasn't using the away function right. sorry guys :P
[07:07] <jaychamp> It's software activated not hardware
[07:07] <Hobbsee> Travis: true :)
[07:07] <defrysk> Hobbsee, just turn the client off is my advise
[07:07] <Hobbsee> defrysk: i was thinking of the other method :P
[07:07] <Sewage> Hobbsee, do you work on Kubuntu
[07:07] <Hobbsee> Sewage: yes...
[07:07] <LeeJunFan> Failure is not an option! It's a feature on windows :p
[07:07] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: hehe
[07:08] <jaychamp> Linux is failing for me :(
[07:08] <Sewage> why
[07:08] <judgen> LeeJunFan i dont see wy people still use it, how can the system folder be infected, i have not even logged in as administrator
[07:09] <judgen> still at 1% 1200 files
[07:09] <Sewage> one scary feature of Windows youll find:
[07:09] <Sewage> Remote Assistance is On
[07:09] <LeeJunFan> judgen: "people are stupid". If OS'es were toothbrushes, millions of people would still be brushing their teeth every day with a crap flavored microsoft toothbrush.
[07:09] <Hobbsee> i know!  so's remote registry edit.
[07:09] <Sewage> LOL remote reg edit
[07:09] <Sewage> wtf
[07:09] <Hobbsee> and to make it FAST!
[07:10] <judgen> LeeJunFan or a steel brush used to clean rust from metal. "Why not everyone else is doing it, so i must do it too"
[07:11] <defrysk> marketing is what its called
[07:11] <judgen> the most annoying "feature" of windows is that the registry is unreadable in a base system, as it is written in binary... that makes me so agrivated it not even funny anymore
[07:11] <defrysk> if ther is no need , vreate the need
[07:11] <defrysk> create*
[07:11] <judgen> defrysk true
[07:12] <defrysk> many businesses have an interst in ms
[07:12] <defrysk> like virus schanners , spywarescanners etc etc
[07:12] <defrysk> so those comanies wil always push ms
[07:12] <Hobbsee> judgen: you didnt learn to read binary thru school?  shame!  :P
[07:12] <judgen> i have now so many infected files that the a-virus software cant cope
[07:12] <LeeJunFan> I own a business, and my interest in MS is that they never fix it, if they do I'll make less money fixing it. :)
[07:13] <defrysk> just create comanymaking flaws does the trick I guess
[07:13] <judgen> Hobbsee i cant read binary, but i can make sense of hex =)
[07:13] <Hobbsee> :)
[07:13] <defrysk> company*
[07:14] <judgen> Hobbsee haha
[07:14] <judgen> LeeJunFan i can do that too
[07:14] <judgen> LeeJunFan i can read in 8 different languages too
[07:14] <Hobbsee> bah, cant do that.  only bits of german.
[07:14] <LeeJunFan> mirrored too.
[07:14] <defrysk> no clue what  it means tho
[07:14] <judgen> and understand 99% of the content
[07:15] <RobNyc> what icons theme u guys using
[07:15] <judgen> swedish, norwegian, german, french, english, pitml, finnish, spanish and a very limited estonian
[07:15] <defrysk> judgen, 99 % of the content is usually bullshit anyway
[07:16] <judgen> RobNyc i always use mono-theme looks awsome
[07:16] <RobNyc> ah
[07:16] <RobNyc> I only found 2 or 3 icons themes on repository
[07:16] <judgen> not for people that likes colous though...
[07:16] <judgen> its moonochrome
[07:16] <judgen> but very nice indeed
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> Speaking of understanding other langs and such. Had an ATT tech who could tell what speed a modem connected at by listening to the carrier tones.
[07:16] <judgen> RobNyc try looking at kdelook.org
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Somethings up
[07:17] <judgen> LeeJunFan i can do that too, unless the modem is slower than 33000 baud
[07:17] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: the sky, or something else?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> My system tray has changed
[07:17] <LeeJunFan> We had DS3 problems and he asked me to send him a recording of the handshake, so I sent him some whale sounds, he said it sounded like his ex-wife :)
[07:17] <D0M1N8R> jeesh first boot after install grub has a error 18 and this is on ext3
[07:17] <DaSkreech> It used to stack now it queues
[07:17] <Hobbsee> ah yes, you got kde 3.5.3?
[07:17] <judgen> 56k is the easiest
[07:17] <james_xxx> i have an old laptop with a non-functioning CD-ROM drive.... would anyone knoe how i might install kubuntu without the CD-ROM drive?
[07:17] <D0M1N8R> =,(
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Oh it changed that?
[07:18] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: That sucks :( how do I get it back?
[07:18] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: change the width.  i think it's 48 pixels that the icons split in two rows for
[07:18] <Hobbsee> er, height
[07:18] <DaSkreech> Where?
[07:18] <Hobbsee> yes, it did.  it was one of the first thing i noticed when i first tested it
[07:18] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: right click kicker, configure, size section, custom, 48
[07:20] <DaSkreech> I must be dumb :-( Where?
[07:20] <defrysk> DaSkreech, rightclick the panel
[07:20] <DaSkreech> Right
[07:21] <DaSkreech> I get configure System Tray
[07:21] <defrysk> DaSkreech, empty spot on panel
[07:21] <nixternal> launchpad is going down in 10 minutes for maintenance
[07:22] <vinboy> hi
[07:22] <vinboy> can someone unban me from #ubuntu pls?
[07:23] <defrysk> vinboy, if I could I probably wouldnt
[07:23] <judgen> vinboy you have probably done something
[07:23] <Hobbsee> vinboy: PM me
[07:23] <defrysk> vinboy, just be ptient bans are usually temporay
[07:23] <Hobbsee> defrysk: not if someone doesnt ever undo them :P
[07:23] <defrysk> Hobbsee, lol
[07:24] <judgen> anyone know of a good torrent site for legal downloads, such as documentaries and such
[07:24] <Sewage> theres no such thing as a legal torrent
[07:24] <judgen> Sewage yes there is
[07:24] <Hobbsee> Sewage: sure there is.
[07:24] <Hobbsee> what are all the linux cds then?
[07:24] <Sewage> oh yeah
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Kubuntu crashed again
[07:25] <judgen> Sewage and all stuff broadcasted on public service
[07:25] <Sewage> judgen, maybe  www.torrentspy.com
[07:25] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: darn.  define crash
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Mouse moves nothing eles does
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Alt+Ctrl+Backspace == nothing
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Alt+Ctrl+Fx == nothing
[07:25] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: alt + ctrl + f1?
[07:25] <Sewage> http://www.torrentspy.com/directory/55/videos/documentary
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Power button == nothing
[07:25] <Hobbsee> hmmm...weird...
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Mouse still moves around though
[07:26] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: oh...that....
[07:26] <judgen> Sewage all of those isnt legal though =)
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: YOu know it :)
[07:26] <judgen> mythbusters...
[07:26] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: when you find that happens again, hit the kmenu, logout, logout , and the keyboard input starts working again.
[07:26] <Sewage> oh sorry
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Is it fixable?
[07:26] <Hobbsee> i dont know what th ehell that is, but it's most annoying!
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Kmenu doens't work
[07:26] <Hobbsee> no, wait...the power button as well...hmmm...
[07:27] <DaSkreech> let me define the mouse works
[07:27] <DaSkreech> It moves when I move it
[07:27] <DaSkreech> a bout a second lag
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Clicking does nothing
[07:27] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: what video card?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> 9600
[07:27] <DaSkreech> ATI
[07:28] <DaSkreech> yay The system tray is back :-)
[07:28] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: yay!
[07:28] <DaSkreech> So I'm guessing it's a X error that kills my Keyboardand my GUI
[07:28] <DaSkreech>  Of course I need to stop it from occuring cause I can't recover from ir
[07:28] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: check in /var/logs somewhere - see if there's a reason
[07:29] <DaSkreech> it
[07:29] <Hobbsee> hmmm...i wonder if the ati drivers have something to do with it
[07:29] <DaSkreech> I didn't install any ATI drivers
[07:30] <judgen> DaSkreech get fglrx
[07:30] <DaSkreech> judgen: Do they make life better or worse?
[07:30] <judgen> faster atleast
[07:31] <judgen> but if life is going to get better, you should really stop using computers and take a cassanova class =P hehe
[07:31] <DaSkreech> So I'm supposed to be a cassanova AFTER computers?
[07:31] <DaSkreech>  man I do everythign backwards
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Memory corruption detected
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Might be that you think?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> I think I'm running out of memory
[07:35] <Lunar_Raven> Couldn't compile type-size test.. Your system is strange  <---trying to install museek from source
[07:35] <Lunar_Raven> would anyone have any idea what that means?
[07:35] <Lunar_Raven> lol.
[07:36] <judgen> or that you have ecc enabled in bios, and your hardware does not supports it
[07:36] <judgen> ^ DaSkreech
[07:37] <judgen> Lunar_Raven you are proably building it with faulty or the wrong dependencies
[07:37] <Lunar_Raven> hmm
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Ok i think something is eating my resources
[07:37] <Lunar_Raven> someone said maybe it has something to do with gcc
[07:38] <judgen> Lunar_Raven probably, do you use gcc4 or gcc3
[07:38] <Lunar_Raven> well, i'm not sure.  I see both are installed.  Should both be installed?
[07:38] <judgen> Lunar_Raven most apps today uses gcc3 and if you are trying to build with gcc4 (mostly backwards compatible) it might not work
[07:38] <judgen> yes both should be installed, but you have to specify that you want to use the gcc3 tree
[07:39] <Lunar_Raven> ohh
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Woah
[07:39] <Lunar_Raven> how can i check which is being used?
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Desktop jsut crashed and restored it self :)
[07:39] <DaSkreech> kwin dies
[07:39] <DaSkreech> died
[07:40] <judgen> is it just me? or is gnome getting wors with every release?
[07:40] <Lunar_Raven> not just you
[07:40] <Lunar_Raven> haha
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Why is amarok eating more CPU than X.org?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Is that normal?
[07:40] <Lunar_Raven> x.org doesnt take much cpu
[07:40] <judgen> if gnome continues like this it will be completley worthless in about 2 year
[07:40] <kakalto> how can I edit the startup runlevel?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> It's normally at the top of my list
[07:40] <kakalto> I tried "bum", but having some issues... can I do it from the console?
[07:41] <RobNyc> http://osdir.com/Article8812.phtml
[07:41] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: which version of amarok?
[07:41] <kakalto> judgen: hmm? what do you mean?
[07:41] <DaSkreech> 1.4.0
[07:41] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: hmmm....
[07:41] <judgen> kakalto it removes all the options and forces you to use "the best default"
[07:42] <Lunar_Raven> judgen: how can i see which gcc is in use?
[07:42] <judgen> i dont even know how to make the windows lower on right-click anymore with gnome...
[07:42] <_rince_> Lunar_Raven: gcc -v
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Please don't make me downgrade :-) I Like 1.4 a lot except it has no mp3 musicbrainz
[07:42] <kakalto> judgen: on upgrade, you mean?
[07:43] <Sewage> What do people use Picasa for
[07:43] <kakalto> oh, the dumbing down of gnome.
[07:43] <kakalto> yeah, I dislike that.
[07:43] <UzzaDead> how would one generate a new sources.lst file :D
[07:43] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: any odd plugins, or something?
[07:43] <Hobbsee> !tell UzzaDead about repos
[07:43] <Lunar_Raven> hmm
[07:43] <Lunar_Raven> says gcc isn't found
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Other than Lyrics plugins nothing
[07:43] <judgen> Lunar_Raven "sudo gcc -v"
[07:43] <DaSkreech>  And they are all turned off
[07:43] <Sewage> I mean what is it about Picasa that people like so much
[07:43] <UzzaDead> Hobbsee, i love you man
[07:43] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: which engine?
[07:43] <kakalto> DaSkreech: they aren't hard to turn on.
[07:44] <DaSkreech> It's released by Google :)
[07:44] <Lunar_Raven> sudo: gcc: command not found
[07:44] <DaSkreech> I know
[07:44] <Lunar_Raven> o.O
[07:44] <DaSkreech>  thats why they are off
[07:44] <Hobbsee> !b-e
[07:44] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[07:44] <Hobbsee> Lunar_Raven: ^
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Xine
[07:44] <kakalto> gcc doesn't come with (k)ubuntu by default, does it?
[07:44] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: hmmm...i wonder why you get that...
[07:44] <Hobbsee> kakalto: that's correct
[07:44] <UzzaDead> !easysource
[07:44] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:44] <kakalto> Hobbsee: ahk
[07:44] <_rince_> DaSkreech: have a look at: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06
[07:45] <_rince_> my musicbrainz works again ;)
[07:45] <Lunar_Raven> i think thats what i needed ubotu
[07:45] <Lunar_Raven> :)
[07:45] <Lunar_Raven> thanks
[07:45] <DaSkreech> _rince_: Brrraaiinzzz
[07:46] <judgen> how did we cope before google? i only remember hating altavista and yahoo
[07:46] <Lunar_Raven> yay
[07:46] <Lunar_Raven> solved my compile problem
[07:46] <Lunar_Raven> thank you
[07:46] <judgen> np
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Hobot
[07:47] <judgen> =)
[07:47] <Sewage> there was Lycos
[07:47] <Sewage> and the Spider one
[07:47] <DaSkreech> _rince_: About this line
[07:47] <DaSkreech> wget http://www.czessi.net/kczessi.gpg #(optional)
[07:48] <DaSkreech> the # should be ignored correct?
[07:48] <UzzaDead> is there a way to rice my kubuntu :D
[07:48] <_rince_> yap
[07:48] <UzzaDead> you know whistle tips, neon underglow :)
[07:48] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: yeah, that just means that "everythign on the rest of this line is to be ignored"
[07:48] <UzzaDead> make it go wooo woooo!
[07:48] <judgen> DaSkreech yes
[07:48] <_rince_> DaSkreech: but when you think about gpg it maybe not recommended ;)
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Yeah I know they just have it so consistent in the rest of the example it seemed like it had to be there :)
[07:49] <DaSkreech> _rince_: Kpg? :-D
[07:49] <_rince_> !?
[07:49] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _rince_
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Isn't signing always good once you trust the person?
[07:50] <_rince_> but how canyou trust that key? :)
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Well you like it
[07:50] <DaSkreech> everywhere I go they keep pointing me back to that repo
[07:50] <UzzaDead> guys, do i want to enable source in my sources.lst?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> UzzaDead: if you are gettin the source
[07:50] <UzzaDead> DaSkreech, dumb it down for me?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> or going to be doing build-dep
[07:50] <_rince_> ubotu: ?
[07:50] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _rince_
[07:50] <DaSkreech> UzzaDead: You know about source code?
[07:51] <UzzaDead> i know OF
[07:51] <UzzaDead> as for modifying it no
[07:51] <DaSkreech> _rince_: Course the problem is I did this already and nothign changed
[07:51] <UzzaDead> basically do i need it to do sudo apt-get install "package name"
[07:51] <judgen> _rince_ ubontu is just a bot. and its tells you to search for your query at its homepage
[07:51] <judgen> bsically
[07:51] <DaSkreech> UzzaDead: No
[07:52] <Lunar_Raven> gosh i love kubuntu now
[07:52] <UzzaDead> is it advisable to enable it anyway or will it just download garbage i'll never need?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> UzzaDead: Source enables you to apt-get install source package
[07:52] <Lunar_Raven> so much more light weight than suse :O
[07:52] <UzzaDead> ah..
[07:52] <UzzaDead> thanks DaSkreech
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Then you can have the source code to print out and paper your walls :)
[07:52] <_rince_> ah
[07:52] <UzzaDead> and make my e-penis look bigger?
[07:52] <judgen> Lunar_Raven did you do a full install or like me an server install
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Exactly
[07:52] <UzzaDead> i can PRETEND i know what it all means :)
[07:53] <UzzaDead> cheers mate!
[07:53] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: that's unnecessary.
[07:53] <DaSkreech> It may come in useful if you are going to compile a program that does not exist in the ubuntu or Debian repos
[07:53] <UzzaDead> sorry Hobbsee :(
[07:53] <judgen> i prefer the server install, then i can add what ever packages i need later on.. i dont need the default kde games and silly sound themes...
[07:53] <UzzaDead> !language
[07:53] <Lunar_Raven> I did a full install
[07:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[07:53] <Lunar_Raven> actually, i dont remember being asked
[07:53] <DaSkreech> Oh about this server vs Desktop CDs
[07:53] <Lunar_Raven> it didnt come with games or anything, though
[07:53] <Lunar_Raven> heh
[07:53] <DaSkreech> can the server CD install a desktop by default?
[07:53] <Lunar_Raven> I used the alternative install cd
[07:53] <Lunar_Raven> :P
[07:54] <Lunar_Raven> i guess that is the server cd
[07:54] <DaSkreech> or do I  HAVE to do server then apt-get install xbuntu-desktop?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Lunar_Raven: Right you got a desktop on first install?
[07:54] <judgen> Lunar_Raven did you get DE by default?
[07:54] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: a server cd?
[07:54] <Lunar_Raven> Yeah it came with KDE.
[07:54] <Lunar_Raven> odd i dont remember
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: yeah the download servers have desktop cds
[07:54] <Lunar_Raven> haha
[07:54] <DaSkreech>  then alternative or server CDs
[07:54] <judgen> then it was not server install..
[07:54] <Hobbsee> mmm okay
[07:54] <Lunar_Raven> ah
[07:55] <judgen> server install is cli only
[07:55] <Lunar_Raven> full install isn't very bloated though
[07:55] <Lunar_Raven> so i wasnt sure
[07:55] <Lunar_Raven> heh
[07:55] <judgen> Hobbsee there isnt, but if you specity in the boot options in the install -server then you get only the base stuff for ubuntu
[07:55] <judgen> no de no x
[07:56] <Hobbsee> judgen: i realise that - i didnt think there was suddenly an extra cd created, without any annoucements
[07:56] <judgen> but you can add through apt everything you need
[07:56] <Lunar_Raven> yeah
[07:56] <Lunar_Raven> apt is great
[07:56] <Lunar_Raven> deb seems to be way faster than rpm o.o
[07:56] <judgen> apt is the best, except for some minor issues i have with it
[07:56] <UzzaDead> judgen, what do you recommend apt-get or aptitude?
[07:56] <judgen> Lunar_Raven ever been in rpm dependencies hell?
[07:56] <Lunar_Raven> yes
[07:56] <Lunar_Raven> many times
[07:57] <DaSkreech> _rince_: Nope still didn't work
[07:57] <Lunar_Raven> lol.
[07:57] <Lunar_Raven> it sucks
[07:57] <judgen> UzzaDead aptitide is just a frontend for apt
[07:57] <UzzaDead> well which is better to use :)
[07:57] <_rince_> strange, worked like a charme for me
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Thats what I keep hearing :(
[07:57] <UzzaDead> i was told aptitude remembers things
[07:57] <UzzaDead> while apt-get doesnt
[07:57] <judgen> UzzaDead remembers, how do you mean?
[07:57] <_rince_> but i compiled it by hand before i found that link
[07:58] <UzzaDead> judgen, im not sure..
[07:58] <_rince_> maybe something remained
[07:58] <DaSkreech> _rince_: but it worked?
[07:58] <UzzaDead> DaSkreech, why for the love of god?!
[07:58] <Lunar_Raven> I like adept, for a gui
[07:58] <UzzaDead> !easysource
[07:58] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:58] <judgen> hehe im not an amarok person, im more for xmms (yes i know its outdated but still)
[07:58] <DaSkreech> To get brainz
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Brrrraaiiinnzzz
[07:58] <UzzaDead> whats that? lol
[07:58] <Lunar_Raven> i couldnt live without amarok
[07:58] <_rince_> yes
[07:58] <Lunar_Raven> i'd diee
[07:58] <judgen> Lunar_Raven i dont use graphical apt...
[07:59] <Lunar_Raven> I use both.  Sometimes when i'm not sure of the package name i'll look through the graphical
[07:59] <judgen> Lunar_Raven what is the best feature of amarok that you use that isnt available in xmms?
[07:59] <Lunar_Raven> for quick install apt-get
[07:59] <Lunar_Raven> :P
[07:59] <Hobbsee> Lunar_Raven: apt-cache search
[07:59] <judgen> Hobbsee exactly
[07:59] <DaSkreech> aptitude search :)
[07:59] <DaSkreech> apt == boss of all
[07:59] <judgen> after usin cli apt for a while, you want it no other way =)
[07:59] <Lunar_Raven> I just like amaroks gui interface way better.  And the way it handles your collection
[07:59] <DaSkreech> But adept allows pretty things like tags :)
[08:00] <Lunar_Raven> and thank you robbs
[08:00] <Lunar_Raven> :)
[08:00] <Lunar_Raven> hobbs even
[08:00] <DaSkreech> I just got tags teh other day and I love them
[08:00] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: aptitude's quite good as well, sometimes...
[08:00] <Hobbsee> Lunar_Raven: hobbsee, even?
[08:00] <Lunar_Raven> that too
[08:00] <Lunar_Raven> haha ;)
[08:00] <judgen> Lunar_Raven i get mental on the fact that i dont rip my cds with tags. I only get "no title" in many players
[08:00] <judgen> i guess thay have fixed that in newer amaroks
[08:01] <judgen> but i think that if i want they should only display the filename
[08:01] <Lunar_Raven> yes, you can also switch your playlist to show by filename instead of tags
[08:01] <judgen> nice, maybe i should go ahead and try amarok again, last time was 0.9.3 i think
[08:01] <Lunar_Raven> yes, it's WAY more mature now.  Back then it was really buggy
[08:01] <judgen> i prefer all my music to be tag-less and have concistant filenames
[08:02] <UzzaDead> judgen, i used amaroK just today and i think its great
[08:02] <Lunar_Raven> I do the same actually
[08:02] <judgen> its an thing i have from when i used beos and its marvelous filesystem
[08:02] <UzzaDead> i think xmms is great too but amaroK is very useful
[08:02] <UzzaDead> kevin, you were the cvscedega dude right?
[08:02] <Lunar_Raven> agreed
[08:02] <DaSkreech> judgen: The new amarok You can do that :)
[08:03] <Lunar_Raven> the new amarok can do everything
[08:03] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[08:03] <DaSkreech> You can say name all my music on the file system based on teh tags
[08:03] <kevin> UzzaDead: Yah
[08:03] <DaSkreech>  then strip the tags :-)
[08:03] <Lunar_Raven> it's magical
[08:03] <Lunar_Raven> o.O
[08:03] <UzzaDead> :D
[08:03] <UzzaDead> i got it working perfectly, well as perfect as cvs is :D
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Lunar_Raven: Except it won't feed me brainz
[08:03] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[08:03] <UzzaDead> DaSkreech, save the brainzzzz for the extreme n00bs here
[08:03] <UzzaDead> i already got issued mine :D
[08:04] <UzzaDead> i now have xorg.conf burned into my retinas too
[08:04] <UzzaDead> good times!
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Well they don't have MP3 neither does my Brainz so it doesn't help them
[08:04] <DaSkreech>  or me :(
[08:04] <judgen> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cvscedega
[08:04] <UzzaDead> i broke sources.lst
[08:04] <UzzaDead> again..
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Man this is the main reason I'm using Kubuntu and it doesn't work
[08:04] <Lunar_Raven> I do that alot
[08:04] <Lunar_Raven> @uzza
[08:04] <UzzaDead> DaSkreech, whats the problem?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> I can't get MP3 brainz
[08:04] <UzzaDead> Lunar_Raven, fix it? :P
[08:04] <Lunar_Raven> what doesnt work?
[08:05] <Lunar_Raven> lol yes
[08:05] <Lunar_Raven> i used the source-o-matic thing
[08:05] <Lunar_Raven> quite useful
[08:05] <UzzaDead> adept thinks i have no repositories...
[08:05] <UzzaDead> which makes me angry
[08:05] <Lunar_Raven> did you click 'fetch updates'
[08:05] <UzzaDead> no
[08:05] <Lunar_Raven> try that
[08:05] <UzzaDead> heres what i did
[08:05] <Lunar_Raven> :P
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Shouldn't adept respect aptitude?
[08:06] <UzzaDead> i generated a sources.lst via source-o-matic saved it to my desktop and did sudo mv sources.lst /etc/apt/sources.lst
[08:06] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: explain more?
[08:06] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: yes, and?
[08:06] <defrysk>  UzzaDead its sources.list
[08:06] <defrysk> not lst
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: If I hold or lock a package in aptitude shouldn't adept stop trying to update them
[08:06] <UzzaDead> it is?
[08:06] <defrysk> yes
[08:06] <defrysk> dodo
[08:06] <UzzaDead> should i feel stupid about now?
[08:06] <Hobbsee> ah, that's it
[08:06] <defrysk> ;p
[08:06] <defrysk> very very stupig
[08:06] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: no, not unless you commented out all of the stuff in your sources list
[08:06] <defrysk> d
[08:07] <judgen> UzzaDead i always feel stupid, but that has nothing to do with linux =)
[08:07] <UzzaDead> Hobbsee, i wont tell you what i did to need a new sources.list :D
[08:07] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: commented it all out?
[08:07] <UzzaDead> nah..
[08:07] <UzzaDead> i nuked it
[08:07] <judgen> UzzaDead why dont you just write a new sources.lits
[08:07] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: i'm not sur ehow adept is coded
[08:07] <UzzaDead> i just did judgen
[08:07] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: hehe.  oops :P
[08:07] <judgen> ok
[08:08] <Hobbsee> i dont hear of many people having done that
[08:08] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: So when aptitude holds a file it's not part of the apt system?
[08:08] <UzzaDead> its a noob thing Hobbsee :D
[08:08] <DaSkreech> defrysk: Name it sources.lst! :-)
[08:08] <Hobbsee> defrysk: or just rm it
[08:08] <defrysk> DaSkreech, guess so ;p
[08:08] <UzzaDead> i rm'd it lol
[08:08] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: i'm not sure...if that's all called by dpkg or what...
[08:08] <DaSkreech> Ok cool
[08:08] <defrysk> Hobbsee, what can I say
[08:08] <UzzaDead> think i'd just grab a fresh file off the dvd
[08:09] <UzzaDead> well that didnt go very well..
[08:09] <UzzaDead> which led to me feeling stupid
[08:09] <DaSkreech> _rince_: So... purge  me Amarok?
[08:09] <Sewage> the only thing on my desktop is the DVD icon
[08:09] <kevin> Uzza...meaning you could install a game i.e. total annihilation? :P
[08:09] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:09] <defrysk> the level of tinkering baffles me sometimes here
[08:09] <UzzaDead> kevin, bloodrayne
[08:09] <Hobbsee> defrysk: dont worry, i've still done stupider...
[08:09] <kevin> hm...
[08:09] <UzzaDead> it crapped itself but :D
[08:09] <kevin> any special steps?
[08:09] <UzzaDead> none
[08:10] <kevin> :(
[08:10] <kevin> !openal
[08:10] <ubotu> kevin: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:10] <kevin> meh...
[08:10] <kevin> this game wants openAL what's that?
[08:10] <Lunar_Raven> where is the qt directory located?
[08:10] <Sewage> openGL
[08:10] <Lunar_Raven> usr?
[08:11] <DaSkreech> kevin: A open Audio language run by Creative
[08:11] <Sewage> oh
[08:11] <UzzaDead> kevin, what are you trying to install?
[08:11] <kevin> Yah but what package? libopenal0 or libopenal0a?
[08:12] <kevin> UzzaDead: A linux game called warzone
[08:12] <UzzaDead> and you need cedega to do so?
[08:12] <DaSkreech> One then the other? :)
[08:12] <kevin> No i'm compiling it
[08:12] <UzzaDead> oh
[08:12] <UzzaDead> DaSkreech, deb-src would indicated sources correct and it would be fine to comment them out as long as im not needing to compile from source?
[08:13] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: yep
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Right
[08:13] <ppd> good morning
[08:13] <UzzaDead> thanks :)
[08:13] <Lunar_Raven> hmm this program keeps saying it can't find kde.  I though I installed the headers, I installed qt3-dev.  Is there a package im missing?
[08:13] <Lunar_Raven> and i just fixed it
[08:13] <ppd> do you know a gui to record tv from an analogue tv card for kde? (or a frontend)
[08:13] <Lunar_Raven> ignore that comment :D
[08:13] <qor[kubuntu] > kevin: how is it?
[08:14] <Hobbsee> Lunar_Raven: try installing kde-devel, if your'e going to be doing a lot of compiling
[08:15] <defrysk> Hobbsee, already got a working ktorrent made ?
[08:15] <Hobbsee> defrysk: define working
[08:15] <Hobbsee> it tries to overwrite another file, and i've not touched it since then.
[08:15] <defrysk> Hobbsee, intallable
[08:15] <defrysk> +s
[08:15] <Hobbsee> well, you can use force overwrite on it..
[08:15] <defrysk> I see
[08:16] <defrysk> no i use the one of the ubuntuforum works fine here ;p
[08:17] <UzzaDead> im getting the hang of this kubuntu thing and liking it more than windows for day to day stuff more and more :D
[08:17] <Hobbsee> true
[08:17] <Ashex> I keep getting a message that an application is using the package system database
[08:17] <Ashex> But there aren't any package managers running
[08:17] <UzzaDead> the community is sure as hell alot more friendly and helpful
[08:18] <Hobbsee> Ashex: got synaptic/adept/another window of apt-get running?
[08:18] <Ashex> all I have open right now is Konversation, Firefox, and Amarok
[08:18] <defrysk> how sure is hell I wonder ?
[08:18] <Ashex> Hobbsee: nope, I've checked, many times
[08:18] <UzzaDead> Ashex, check for processes that havent terminated if you dont have any adept etc.. running
[08:18] <Lunar_Raven> me too, uzza.
[08:18] <Hobbsee> Ashex: hmmm..odd...want to pastebin the exact error?
[08:18] <Lunar_Raven> Although, i was use to SuSE not windows
[08:18] <UzzaDead> defrysk, as sure as i'll break your leg :)
[08:18] <Ashex> UzzaDead: I've checked
[08:18] <Lunar_Raven> but ubuntu is cool :P
[08:18] <Hobbsee> you can just remove the lock, if you're sure nothing else is open :P
[08:19] <Ashex> Woah
[08:19] <Ashex> I just opened terminal to generate an actual error for you guys
[08:19] <Hobbsee> Ashex: what'd you get?
[08:19] <UzzaDead> thats because you love us
[08:19] <Ashex> since I got the error from adept_updater
[08:19] <Ashex> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:20] <UzzaDead> that thing makes me mad
[08:20] <Ashex> one sec while I do what it tells me to do
[08:20] <Hobbsee> Ashex: that's probably why :)
[08:20] <DaSkreech> Ashex: Yeah I got that too :)
[08:20] <UzzaDead> did you give it a black eye?
[08:21] <crimsun> jeez, no wonder Hobbsee's so violent; everyone's violent here :p
[08:21] <Ashex> Woo
[08:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:21] <Ashex> it works
[08:21] <UzzaDead> they learn from me probably
[08:21] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i have to be violent :P
[08:21] <Ashex> I don't use command line apt very often, I like using a gui
[08:21] <DaSkreech> I've only seen you violent once
[08:21] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: ah yes, i'm more violent on -motu
[08:21] <Sewage> I dont know why most Linux users think it's easier to type out 5 words than it is to click an icon
[08:21] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: dont hit me then.  it's mean :P
[08:22] <DaSkreech> Sewage: It is in the long run
[08:22] <Hobbsee> Sewage: because the icon moves, it takes a while to start, etc
[08:22] <defrysk> Sewage, cos it is easyer perhaps ?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> Sewage: Course you can always make an icon for the 5 letter word
[08:22] <Ashex> say...what's the command for apt to reinstall a package?
[08:22] <Sewage> I guess I have to get used to it
[08:22] <Hobbsee> Sewage: and you can set aliases, you know
[08:23] <Ashex> anyone? anyone at all?
[08:23] <Sewage> no, I dont know about aliases
[08:23] <Hobbsee> Ashex: sudo aptitude reinstall packagename
[08:23] <UzzaDead> i like this community :D
[08:23] <defrysk> Sewage, example blanking a rewritable cdrom = cdrdao blank can you do that faster with a gui ?
[08:23] <Sewage> no
[08:23] <Ashex> Ha, it's all about aptitude, isn't it?
[08:23] <UzzaDead> i can do it faster than gui and cli with my hammer :D
[08:23] <Sewage> although I never blank CDs
[08:23] <defrysk> Sewage, I rest my case ;)
[08:23] <Ashex> I should get more sleep, that way I can think out my problem before asking something stupid like that
[08:23] <Hobbsee> Ashex: :P  see apt-get -h and aptitude -h
[08:24] <UzzaDead> Ashex, dont feel bad i've been asking stupid things for the past two or three days, ask anyone here
[08:24] <Hobbsee> Ashex: if you know more or less what you're looking for, man <packagename> or <packagename> -h usually works
[08:24] <Hobbsee> mmm...sleep...
[08:24] <Ashex> Heh
[08:24] <UzzaDead> whats this sleep thing you speak of?
[08:24] <Ashex> thanks, I'll look into it a little
[08:24] <DaSkreech>  Amarok suggets I install Konqi
[08:24] <Sewage> but most actions require typing in filenames, and thats a pain  "Hm.. ok, what comes next.. oh an Underscore.. NO, 2 underscores"
[08:24] <defrysk> or just <packagename> with no options
[08:24] <Ashex> anyone familiar with proftpd?
[08:24] <UzzaDead> a female linux user?
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Sewage: Tab is your friend
[08:25] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: it's something that's disturbed when you get a phonecall from someone in another country
[08:25] <Sewage> yes, I need to start using Tab
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: you should count how many times a day you get that reaction :)
[08:25] <defrysk> Sewage, tab is your friend
[08:25] <Hobbsee> Sewage: words are generally two underscores, letters are one underscore
[08:25] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: which reaction?  oh
[08:25] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: yes.  they exist
[08:25] <RandomDude15> hey
[08:25] <Sewage> if a file name is longer than 2 letters, then clicking an icon was faster
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: make a !woman command :-)
[08:26] <Hobbsee> !women
[08:26] <RandomDude15> how do I get java
[08:26] <ubotu> The Ubuntu women project women and men hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[08:26] <RandomDude15> and
[08:26] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: already one there ^
[08:26] <Sewage> do you always leave your terminal open
[08:26] <RandomDude15> flash 8?
[08:26] <RandomDude15> in firefox?
[08:26] <UzzaDead> Hobbsee, you still perplex me
[08:26] <UzzaDead> linux,woman,intelligent
[08:26] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:26] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: and a dev :P
[08:26] <Ashex> Oy
[08:26] <Ashex> I got this error while trying to reinstall the package: http://pastebin.com/764558
[08:27] <DaSkreech> Ohright
[08:27] <DaSkreech>  I still can't get there
[08:27] <UzzaDead> i think more women using computers is great
[08:27] <DaSkreech> UzzaDead: And she can ban your butt
[08:27] <defrysk> shutdown -h now
[08:27] <UzzaDead> and not just for email and random web surfing
[08:27] <UzzaDead> DaSkreech, i fear!
[08:27] <Hobbsee> Ashex: ah yes, the broken java...
[08:27] <Hobbsee> !java
[08:27] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:27] <UzzaDead> broken java?
[08:27] <DaSkreech> Well there are more midage women in online gaming than any other category of human :)
[08:28] <defrysk> java on crack
[08:28] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: seems to be borked for some reason - not sure why
[08:28] <defrysk> = a broken java
[08:28] <UzzaDead> what does it affect? amd64 or?
[08:28] <D0M1N8R> k installed kubuntu and it never asked for a root password
[08:28] <D0M1N8R> and sudo wants a password
[08:28] <Hobbsee> !root
[08:28] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:28] <UzzaDead> D0M1N8R, its your username's password
[08:28] <D0M1N8R> ack
[08:28] <HymnToLife> Java is b0rk3n even when it "works" anyway :p
[08:28] <D0M1N8R> tried my user name password says incorrect but as pointed out above its disabled
[08:28] <defrysk> java is a resourceb0rk
[08:29] <Ashex> there is no actual root in kubuntu
[08:29] <HymnToLife> !tell D0M1N8R about root
[08:29] <Ashex> sudo -i is your friend
[08:30] <UzzaDead> well wish me luck i just upgraded kde!
[08:30] <UzzaDead> see if i broke something again hehe
[08:30] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: can I find out which packages rely on a package?
[08:31] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: yes....
[08:31] <DaSkreech> COol
[08:31] <D0M1N8R> im having no luck killing X
[08:31] <DaSkreech> How? :)
[08:31] <defrysk> D0M1N8R, shoot
[08:31] <Hobbsee> apt-get/aptitude/dpkg -rdepends/--rdepends packagename
[08:31] <DaSkreech> Neat
[08:32] <Hobbsee> no, try apt-cache rdepends packagename
[08:32] <Hobbsee> that's it, according to this help file
[08:32] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:32] <DaSkreech> If I don't put in a gpg key for a package what is the result?
[08:33] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: a warning?
[08:33] <DaSkreech> or for a repo to be more precise
[08:33] <Hobbsee> which repo?
[08:33] <DaSkreech> Well I'm not getting one :(
[08:33] <Hobbsee> not all repos require gpg keys
[08:33] <DaSkreech> I'm thinking that it's not seeing the alternate repo
[08:33] <HymnToLife> In some cases you need to download/add the key manualy
[08:34] <DaSkreech> I'm assuming that tunepimp is in the main
[08:34] <HymnToLife> !info tunepimp
[08:34] <DaSkreech> I'm going to disable allll my sources except that one
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Wheee :)
[08:34] <DaSkreech>  adept crashed
[08:36] <DaSkreech> ok and so did katapult
[08:36] <DaSkreech> :-(
[08:39] <noaXess> hi all.
[08:40] <Hobbsee> hey noaXess
[08:40] <orient2000> Does anybody know what program is good for preview/show pictures in a folder?
[08:40] <Hobbsee> orient2000: konq does it, gwenview is also pretty good
[08:40] <noaXess> ha.. got my ati mobile radeon x700 running... :)
[08:40] <Ashex> Grr
[08:40] <orient2000> thanks
[08:40] <Ashex> I can't get rid of this damn Java thing
[08:40] <noaXess> !flash
[08:40] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:40] <noaXess> !flashplayer
[08:40] <ubotu> noaXess: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:40] <Ashex> I can't get rid of this damn thing http://pastebin.com/764558
[08:40] <UzzaDead> i didnt break anything!
[08:41] <DaSkreech> _rince_: Arrrrrgh!!!!!!!
[08:41] <DaSkreech> UzzaDead: Shoot me
[08:42] <UzzaDead> why?
[08:42] <DaSkreech> I had the site mispelled in the sources.list all this time
[08:42] <UzzaDead> i nuked my entire sources.list then when i got a new one i named it sources.lst
[08:42] <UzzaDead> im still top :D
[08:43] <DaSkreech> I regret using windows!
[08:43] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: haha
[08:43] <DaSkreech> UzzaDead: Wrong!!!
[08:44] <DaSkreech> It should go Klik!
[08:44] <UzzaDead> no! click!
[08:44] <UzzaDead> cli ck
[08:44] <UzzaDead> cli=command line interface
[08:44] <DaSkreech> Calvin Klien Command Line?
[08:44] <UzzaDead> shhh :D
[08:44] <DaSkreech> A woman using LInux?
[08:44] <UzzaDead> i got banned in #kubuntu-offtopic for that sort of talk
[08:45] <UzzaDead> lol no DaSkreech im a guy just being strange
[08:45] <DaSkreech> and not shopping at Thinkgeek?
[08:45] <UzzaDead> or do you ;)
[08:45] <DaSkreech> No HTTPanties for you!
[08:45] <UzzaDead> noes!
[08:45] <UzzaDead> im about to ask something thats probably stupid but how do i edit what services run at boot?
[08:45] <UzzaDead> i dont use bluetooth nor cups
[08:45] <TheHighChild> lol UzzaDead
[08:46] <UzzaDead> :D
[08:46] <DaSkreech> HTTPanties are the greatest :)
[08:46] <TheHighChild> Under system, there should be something called boot manager
[08:47] <TheHighChild> How do I come back from away?
[08:47] <UzzaDead> that would be a negative TheHighChild
[08:47] <UzzaDead> or do you mean system settings?
[08:47] <DaSkreech> word: Word to your mother
[08:47] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Hi! :)
[08:48] <word> I'm also kevin btw...i'm trying on this comp now
[08:48] <TheHighChild> no, Automatix must have installed it
[08:48] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: DaSkreech.  is that necessary?
[08:48] <UzzaDead> is what necessary?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> He started it!
[08:48] <Hobbsee> the talk about the women - this is supposed to be on topic
[08:48] <DaSkreech> I was already on teh ThinkGeek tangent
[08:48] <UzzaDead> i already got banned from #kubuntu-offtopic so you cant send me there :(
[08:49] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: you going to mess up in k-o again?
[08:49] <DaSkreech> No one is saying anything :-) I'll go back to call center mode once a problem comes in :)
[08:49] <UzzaDead> honestly Hobbsee i dont know what i did wrong
[08:49] <UzzaDead> a group of us were called trolls banned and removed
[08:49] <DaSkreech> That's ferpectly alright
[08:49] <defrysk> DaSkreech, due to certain conversations people stop talking sometimes
[08:49] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: i was hoping that the two of you would be beyond it.
[08:50] <DaSkreech> Normally I am but it's 2:00
[08:50] <UzzaDead> im normally good :)
[08:50] <defrysk> DaSkreech, its 8.50 am here
[08:50] <DaSkreech> And I'm trying to stay awake long enought to get brainz :-)
[08:50] <UzzaDead> i just get a bit... off sometimes
[08:50] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: now behave, or i'll reban you.
[08:50] <DaSkreech> It's 2:00 am here
[08:50] <UzzaDead> i didnt misbehave earlier tho but ok :D
[08:50] <DaSkreech> and I'm reinstalling kubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <Hobbsee> :)
[08:50] <UzzaDead> cheers mate!
[08:50] <DaSkreech> for a mizzing 'z' :-(
[08:50] <sampan> would any of the gurus have any idea why printing most things works fine, but printing PDF files is a no-go?  kpdf, acroread, konq, etc., no joy printing pdfs
[08:51] <UzzaDead> DaSkreech, im still not seeing that boot thing you spoke of
[08:51] <UzzaDead> !katapult
[08:51] <ubotu> katapult is, like, totally, an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.
[08:52] <DaSkreech> I said something?
[08:52] <UzzaDead> oh my mistake it was TheHighChild
[08:52] <UzzaDead> i still need to figure out how to edit what services run at boot
[08:52] <UzzaDead> im not rich enough for bluetooth!
[08:53] <DaSkreech> I have to be the laziest person ever
[08:53] <DaSkreech> I won't run a GUI program if it's not in katapult
[08:53] <UzzaDead> do you have a rubber keyboard and have someone spray you off with a hose while still typing away at your command line?
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: have you been follown\ing SOC?
[08:53] <UzzaDead> and call that a shower :)
[08:53] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: sort of, nto really, why?
[08:53] <UzzaDead> whats SOC?
[08:54] <DaSkreech> Worse I open the window when it rains
[08:54] <Hobbsee> UzzaDead: summer of code
[08:54] <UzzaDead> last coding i did was in qbasic
[08:54] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: They seem to have slated katapult to take over from Alt=Tab
[08:54] <DaSkreech> Alt+Tab
[08:54] <UzzaDead> windows running on a mac which now has intel processors, anything is possible DaSkreech
[08:54] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: surely not
[08:55] <UzzaDead> i want a mac that OS and hardware is sexy @_@
[08:55] <UzzaDead> better than my ugly old beige macs...
[08:55] <UzzaDead> i'm gonna go browse the wiki for some answers and stop annoying the channel :)
[08:56] <MrBallZ> hi, i installed dapper, and my atheros minipci card was recoginized out of the box, then I changed to the 686 kernel, and now the module isnt loaded, how do i fix this ?
[08:57] <defrysk> UzzaDead, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[08:57] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Want me to find the write up?
[08:57] <DaSkreech> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
[08:57] <DaSkreech> BRAINZ!!!!
[08:57] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: yeah
[08:57] <sancho21> hai all
[08:58] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee, _rince_: it works now I'm a very happy camper
[08:58] <DaSkreech> Course the means no work for me for the next two weeks :)
[08:58] <Hobbsee> :)
[08:58] <UzzaDead> thanks defrysk
[08:59] <DaSkreech> sancho21: Hi
[09:00] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE%20Google%20SoC%202006%20ideas#id297341
[09:01] <UzzaDead> mdadm pertains to RAID and the like correct?
[09:01] <linuxbambi> hi all
[09:01] <linuxbambi> i have a question
[09:01] <UzzaDead> we may have an answer :)
[09:01] <sampan> just one question?
[09:02] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: i dont think that alt+tab will be completely replaced
[09:02] <UzzaDead> one question leads to another its a given :)
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Better not be
[09:02] <UzzaDead> Hobbsee, mdadm is RAID and the like isnt it?
[09:02] <Hobbsee> no idea
[09:02] <DaSkreech> There is a Kphysics as well by Zack that I can't find any write up about
[09:02] <DaSkreech>  And Amarok is supposed to get DAAP :-)
[09:03] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: i doubt it'll be a problem
[09:03] <DaSkreech> The amarok?
[09:03] <DaSkreech> Or the Physics?
[09:03] <linuxbambi> i am connected via wlan, and i use ndiswrapper. everything works fine, but the os forgets my iwconfig settings so i always have to do "modprobe ndiswrapper, iwoncfig wlan0 ...., dhchlient wlan0" - is there a way to let all this beeing done automaticley?
[09:04] <DaSkreech> isn't SIGHUP supposed to restart a process?
[09:04] <Ashex> crap in a hat
[09:04] <Ashex> my package manager system is broken
[09:04] <Ashex> all thanks to java
[09:05] <Ashex> I can't do anything because of this error http://pastebin.com/764558
[09:05] <Ashex> it's a broken package
[09:06] <Ashex> I just tried to do a dpkg --purge on it
[09:06] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Oh they have Tabs for Kwin
[09:06] <Ashex> http://pastebin.com/764587
[09:06] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: nice :)
[09:07] <Ashex> I can't reinstall it
[09:07] <Ashex> and I can't purge it because I can't reinstall it
[09:07] <Ashex> and I can't install or remove packages because of this package
[09:07] <Hobbsee> Ashex: try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[09:07] <Ashex> I already did
[09:07] <Ashex> I get that first error
[09:07] <Hobbsee> you tried reinstall, i think
[09:07] <Ashex> I tried that one too, same result
[09:07] <noiesmo> sudo apt-get -f install
[09:08] <Ashex> tried that one too
[09:08] <defrysk> fix broken packages in sunaptic might do the trick
[09:08] <noiesmo> apt-get install --fix-missing
[09:08] <defrysk> synaptic
[09:08] <Ashex> this was with apt-get install http://pastebin.com/764592
[09:09] <DaSkreech> So once I stop kubuntu from Krashing I'll be the Biggest Pimp :)
[09:09] <Alpha1> soooo, where can I find more info wrt installing the nvidia drivers on a fresh 6.06 kubuntu install?
[09:09] <defrysk> Ashex, try the fix proken packages option in synaptic
[09:09] <DaSkreech> Anyone started playing with KDE4?
[09:09] <Ashex> I can't
[09:09] <defrysk> broken*
[09:09] <Ashex> I can't open any package manager apps
[09:09] <Ashex> they just don't open
[09:10] <defrysk> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:10] <defrysk> right ?
[09:10] <defrysk> or not ?
[09:10] <defrysk> and then try to open
[09:10] <Sewage> how do you hide the left tab in Konqueror.  not F9
[09:10] <Ashex> Ha
[09:10] <Ashex> you're mean
[09:10] <Ashex> that's going to take forever
[09:10] <robin> !mp3
[09:10] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:11] <DaSkreech> Sewage: You press F9
[09:11] <Sewage> NO
[09:11] <linuxbambi> to listen to mp3s, you need libxine-extracodecs package
[09:11] <Sewage> just the left part
[09:11] <linuxbambi> its in multiverse
[09:11] <DaSkreech> Sewage: Yeah It works great here
[09:11] <Sewage> that closes the whole left pane
[09:11] <Sewage> I only want to close the TAB STRIB
[09:11] <Sewage> I only want to close the TAB STRIP
[09:11] <Sewage> on the left
[09:11] <DaSkreech> At the top
[09:11] <Alpha1> !nvidia
[09:11] <ubotu> nvidia is probably Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:11] <defrysk> Sewage, of konqueror ?
[09:12] <Sewage> yes
[09:12] <defrysk> sorry mate
[09:12] <Sewage> what
[09:12] <DaSkreech> Sewage: you mean the tab strip at the top or the navigation panel?
[09:12] <Sewage> on the left
[09:13] <DaSkreech> ok
[09:13] <defrysk> Sewage, go to web browser behaviour
[09:13] <DaSkreech> You have a set of tabs on the left
[09:13] <DaSkreech> then an info pane
[09:13] <DaSkreech>  then teh main window
[09:13] <defrysk> and tic the hide the tab bar blah
[09:13] <DaSkreech>  what do you want to get rid of?
[09:13] <DaSkreech>  the tabs?
[09:13] <defrysk> Sewage, got that ?
[09:14] <Sewage> sorry, Im back
[09:14] <DaSkreech> defrysk: I missed it where do you start?
[09:14] <Sewage> ok
[09:14] <Sewage> there
[09:14] <defrysk> Sewage, setting > configure > web behaviour icon
[09:14] <Sewage> oh
[09:15] <Sewage> right
[09:15] <defrysk> go to tabbed browsing and tic the blah blah
[09:15] <defrysk> hide tab bar that is
[09:15] <Sewage> isnt that for tabbed browsing
[09:15] <Sewage> the top tabs
[09:16] <Sewage> you know that strip on the left
[09:16] <defrysk> Sewage, just tic it and check ok ?
[09:16] <Sewage> that has Home Folder, Amarok
[09:16] <Sewage> ok, I'll try it
[09:16] <Sewage> oh wait
[09:16] <Sewage> it's already checked
[09:16] <defrysk> all that talk back drives me nuts
[09:16] <Sewage> so that cant be it
[09:16] <defrysk> both checked ?
[09:16] <Sewage> Are you talking about the Tabbed Browsing area?
[09:17] <defrysk> yes
[09:17] <Sewage> thats not it
[09:17] <Sewage> Im talking about the strip on the left side , that has Home Folder, Amarok, Root Folder Metabar
[09:17] <Sewage> Do you know what Im talking about
[09:18] <DaSkreech> Yes
[09:18] <DaSkreech> What do you want it to do?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> Disappear?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> But leave the info?
[09:18] <defrysk> Seveas, I have no strip there
[09:18] <DaSkreech> defrysk:Press F9
[09:18] <Sewage> theres 2 parts to the left F9 thing
[09:18] <Sewage> Theres the list of folders, and theres the ICON TABS on the left
[09:18] <Sewage> dont you have that?
[09:19] <Sewage> omg
[09:19] <defrysk> yes then I have it
[09:19] <defrysk> press it again and its gone
[09:19] <DaSkreech> Yup
[09:19] <UzzaDead> i need to quit breaking things
[09:19] <DaSkreech> He wants to have the Info pane and not the tabs
[09:19] <Sewage> F9 CLOSES the whole left side
[09:19] <DaSkreech>  which makes no sense to me
[09:19] <DaSkreech> But I guess he can do it ....
[09:20] <Sewage> remember Windows Explorer?
[09:20] <Sewage> you have a left and right pane
[09:20] <Sewage> nm
[09:20] <defrysk> rightklick the tab and close it
[09:20] <Sewage> I'll ask in KDE
[09:20] <defrysk> too easy ;p
[09:20] <Sewage> that doesnt work
[09:20] <Sewage> THAT CLOSESE THE WHOLE LEFT SIDE
[09:20] <defrysk> hehe lol
[09:20] <bubblenut> Hi, in a moment of monumental stupidity I deleted all my /boot/initrd images, anyone know where I can get replacements or fix this this?
[09:21] <defrysk> who cares I dont use it anyway ;p
[09:21] <DaSkreech> It crashed konqi for me :)
[09:21] <DaSkreech> Sewage: Just asking why does it bug you that much?
[09:21] <UzzaDead> bubblenut, adept should allow you to reinstall them
[09:22] <sampan> right clicking the left pane tabs brings up a context menu -- hit "configure" and uncheck "show tabs"
[09:22] <DaSkreech> defrysk: Can You explain how the Metabar works?
[09:22] <UzzaDead> and i cant get this blasted pcmcia-utils garbage to stop loading
[09:22] <sampan> those tabs are gone for me, but now i can't get them back
[09:22] <defrysk> DaSkreech, nope , never used it
[09:22] <UzzaDead> last i checked my desktop didnt have pcmcia
[09:22] <DaSkreech> it always gives me the Meta for the folder never for a file
[09:23] <defrysk> for fil managing
[09:23] <defrysk> file
[09:23] <defrysk> or the cli
[09:23] <sampan> sewage  if you right click on the very edge of those tabs, there's a configure navigation panel item in a context menu, then a submenu opens and you can uncheck the "show tabs"
[09:24] <bubblenut> UssaDead: Yea, thanks, I've just started re-installing. Phew, I thought my quick acting lack of thought had caught up with me then ;)
[09:24] <DaSkreech> defrysk: Never mind figured it out
[09:24] <DaSkreech> defrysk: It rocks!!!
[09:25] <defrysk> what rocks ?
[09:29] <Sewage> sampan, ok, I'll try that
[09:29] <UzzaDead> i wonder why 1600x1200 in linux is usable but its not in windows
[09:30] <sampan> sewage  it worked for me (if i understand what you want correctly, that is): to see the folder tree, but not the little graphic buttons for root/services/etc
[09:30] <Sewage> sampan, right
[09:30] <raf> hello all,  could someone help me on customize a kubuntu installation CD?
[09:31] <Sewage> I cant get it.  the area must be 1 pixel wide that you have to click
[09:31] <sampan> sewage, hrmmmm  -- i just right-clicked anywhere on those tabs i think
[09:32] <Sewage> so I ahve to remove each one first?
[09:32] <sampan> then a context-menu pops up, and at the bottom there's "configure navigation panel"
[09:32] <Sewage> cry
[09:33] <Sewage> all I have is where the bar moves from the left side to the other side
[09:34] <sampan> :(  dunno what's wonky, but on mine it's simple as pie: right-click --> configure nav panel --> (uncheck) show tabs ... and it's done :X
[09:34] <TheHighChild> Anyone know if there is a command to see all available commands?
[09:35] <Sewage> ok
[09:35] <TheHighChild> In IRC, sorry
[09:35] <Sewage> i dont have that option
[09:35] <kanibal> TheHighChild try help
[09:37] <TheHighChild> thanks kanibal
[09:37] <sampan> sewage, actually you might be right ... you might have to remove them individually, the 'show tabs' option is 'show tabs left', so it was just moving them to the right and i didn't even notice they had just jumped :X
[09:38] <Sewage> ok
[09:38] <sampan> doh
[09:38] <Sewage> lol
[09:40] <sampan> i've never used that nav panel, but ... i -should- ... very convenient
[09:40] <Sewage> im used to Windows Explorer
[09:40] <kanibal> anyone can tell me, why eth0 doesn't have address?
[09:41] <kanibal> only MAC
[09:43] <DaSkreech> sampan: what version of KDE are you using?
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Sewage: But this is much cooler :-(
[09:43] <sampan> daskreech  whatever shipped with dapper
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Sewage: Have you seen the metabar?
[09:43] <Sewage> yes
[09:44] <sampan> so i guess it's 3.5.2
[09:44] <Sewage> I havent really used it though
[09:44] <sampan> i guess i just never noticed that the nav panel has so much in it: bookmarks, history, filesystem, system settings, services -- it's one-stop-shopping
[09:45] <sampan> it even has an amarok tab
[09:45] <chavo> sampan you can even make your own with html
[09:46] <chavo> metabar is simply html and css
[09:46] <sampan> very cool -- but that would require me to actually know html !!
[09:46] <Adam_eM> hi
[09:46] <chavo> true
[09:46] <DaSkreech> Sewage: I'm really digging it
[09:46] <Sewage> i messed up my f9
[09:46] <DaSkreech> Sewage: As an Aside I just embedded Digg.com into the sidebar  :-)
[09:47] <Sewage> now all i can see are the icons
[09:47] <DaSkreech> Sorry sold it already
[09:47] <UzzaDead> to me :)
[09:47] <Adam_eM> anyone saw PCLOS's synaptic retheming ? I wonder how to do something like that in my kubuntu
[09:47] <DaSkreech> Sewage: there is a little bar right beside them
[09:48] <DaSkreech> resize it so you can see the info bar
[09:48] <Sewage> it wont resize
[09:48] <TheHighChild> Does anyone use dynamic dns?
[09:48] <Sewage> oh
[09:48] <Sewage> its back
[09:48] <TheHighChild> not banned yet UzzaDead? lol
[09:49] <UzzaDead> surprisingly no
[09:49] <UzzaDead> i gave Hobbsee a hug, that might have done the trick
[09:49] <UzzaDead> i hope so i like you guys :D
[09:50] <UzzaDead> who would want to ban me :)
[09:50] <UzzaDead> im innocent,sweet,amusing
[09:50] <UzzaDead> and helpful!
[09:50] <defrysk> UzzaDead, how insightfull
[09:51] <UzzaDead> hopefully i can get wireless going on my laptop tonite
[09:51] <defrysk> without getting banned you mean ?
[09:51] <UzzaDead> that would be a plus
[09:51] <defrysk> lol
[09:53] <TheHighChild> I hate that hardware manufacturers don't provide linux drivers
[09:53] <UzzaDead> me too
[09:53] <UzzaDead> D-Link is especially nasty
[09:53] <TheHighChild> ugh - I know!
[09:53] <UzzaDead> i probably have as much chance as people in hell getting ice water getting this D-Link wifi card working
[09:53] <Sewage> tj9991, NASA uses Python...... so does the NYSE, Industrial Light and Magic, AstraZeneca, Honeywell, and many others.
[09:55] <Adam_eM> btw: i am going to buy a router, because my isp provides an internet access through an usb modem. Should i buy any router or will i have any problems in linux ?
[09:55] <kanibal_> anyone can tell me, why a eth0 doesn't have addrees?
[09:55] <UzzaDead> Adam_eM, any router will work
[09:55] <Sewage> linux was made for routers
[09:56] <UzzaDead> kanibal, tried ifconfig?
[09:56] <kanibal_> only the MAC address!
[09:56] <UzzaDead> you need to use ifconfig to pull an address from your dhcp server!
[09:56] <kanibal_> yes ifconfig -a, and eth0 only show MAC address
[09:56] <UzzaDead> im a noob so i dont know much
[09:57] <kanibal_> sorry
[09:57] <Adam_eM> i wouldnt rather do it, but i have to, since i will have big problems with installing the modem in kubuntu
[09:57] <UzzaDead> one sec
[09:57] <kanibal_> ifconfig eth0 up ?????
[09:57] <TheHighChild> ifup eth0
[09:57] <Hobbsee> :)
[09:57] <DaSkreech> Good morning
[09:58] <UzzaDead> kanibal, try net-setup
[09:58] <DaSkreech> I'm going to bed
[09:58] <DaSkreech> I'll see you
[09:58] <UzzaDead> kanibal, net-setup eth0
[09:58] <defrysk> in your dreams ?
[09:59] <UzzaDead> doh i think i just broke my laptops partitions
[09:59] <kanibal_> net-setup eth0 doesn't do anything
[09:59] <UzzaDead> any errors?
[10:01] <kanibal_> nop,  ifup eth0, net-setup eth0!!! don't work
[10:01] <amarokker> can anyone help me to install e-17?
[10:01] <UzzaDead> kanibal, its ifconfig eth0 up
[10:01] <amarokker> on dapper- :D
[10:01] <Steven_M> can any help me with an apt-get question?
[10:02] <kanibal_>  ifconfig eth0 up, nop!!
[10:02] <UzzaDead> sorry im stumped
[10:02] <kanibal_> i'm really confuse
[10:02] <UzzaDead> Steven_M, what is it?
[10:03] <Steven_M> typing it out, standby
[10:04] <attax|thana> hi folks
[10:04] <UzzaDead> evening
[10:04] <defrysk> morning
[10:04] <UzzaDead> i cant tell with this blasted military time :)
[10:04] <UzzaDead> and i cant figure out how to change it either
[10:05] <attax|thana> i just upgraded to dapper and have a problem with my dual-screen setup
[10:05] <attax|thana> can someone help me with this?
[10:05] <Hobbsee> bye all...
[10:05] <UzzaDead> bye Hobbsee
[10:05] <UzzaDead> no clue attax|thana
[10:05] <attax|thana> :(
[10:05] <[miles] > morning
[10:06] <UzzaDead> crap i blew up the installer
[10:06] <[miles] > I've downloaded the kubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso via a torrent
[10:06] <[miles] > but I want to know the md5, and I dont see it anywhere...
[10:06] <[miles] > anyone know where I can find the correct md5 please?
[10:06] <UzzaDead> nope i looked
[10:06] <UzzaDead> only thing i could do was burn it and verify the cd via the boot menu
[10:06] <UzzaDead> dvd^
[10:07] <[miles] > ah
[10:07] <[miles] > ok
[10:07] <[miles] > mmmm
[10:07] <UzzaDead> it all worked out fine
[10:07] <[miles] > dodgy eh
[10:07] <UzzaDead> no idea why an md5 doesnt exist tho
[10:07] <UzzaDead> lets blame the govt
[10:08] <[miles] > UzzaDead, could we compare md5's if possible please?
[10:09] <UzzaDead> i dont have a dvd md5
[10:09] <[miles] > I mean could you make one
[10:09] <UzzaDead> ah!
[10:09] <UzzaDead> how would i go about that?
[10:09] <kanibal_> i don't have eth0 address, here is my ifconfig -a( http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/764644) , anyone can help me?
[10:09] <[miles] > you still got the ISO to hand?
[10:10] <UzzaDead> on my windows desktop
[10:10] <TheHighChild> only  found the cd md5
[10:10] <UzzaDead> but i've got it mounted
[10:10] <[miles] > UzzaDead, md5sum <filename.iso>
[10:10] <UzzaDead> k
[10:10] <[miles] > oh, yours is 386 right?
[10:11] <[miles] > not x86-64?
[10:11] <UzzaDead> aww crap..
[10:11] <UzzaDead> no its 64 sorry :(
[10:11] <[miles] > JAJA
[10:11] <[miles] > no problem
[10:11] <[miles] > I'l verify the dvd like you said
[10:11] <[miles] > I'm sure that will be surficant
[10:11] <UzzaDead> you shouldnt have any problem tho because as far as i know the torrent system checks and hashes as parts are downloaded
[10:11] <[miles] > It's taken me 4 days to download it off the torrent
[10:12] <UzzaDead> :-O
[10:12] <[miles] > nod
[10:12] <UzzaDead> you on a 56k?
[10:12] <[miles] > nope
[10:12] <TheHighChild> Why not download the cd?
[10:12] <[miles] > I've got the cd
[10:12] <[miles] > as well
[10:12] <UzzaDead> TheHighChild, what IS the purpose of the dvd anyway?
[10:12] <TheHighChild> lol
[10:12] <[miles] > this is the odd thing:
[10:12] <kanibal_>  i don't have eth0 address, here is my ifconfig -a( http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/764644) , anyone can help me?
[10:12] <TheHighChild> Provides more packages
[10:12] <[miles] > the livecd worked fine with my wireless pci card yeah
[10:12] <UzzaDead> sweet that makes me cooler than other people!
[10:12] <[miles] > but when I installed it
[10:13] <[miles] > the card could scan, but not connect...
[10:13] <[miles] > :-|
[10:13] <[miles] > odd
[10:13] <cyy> Do I need register a account for this IRC?
[10:13] <UzzaDead> odd
[10:13] <[miles] > nod
[10:13] <[miles] > any
[10:13] <[miles] > way
[10:13] <TheHighChild> off hand it looks like it's trying to use IPV6
[10:13] <[miles] > right
[10:13] <vinboy> hi
[10:13] <[miles] > I'll be back later once ive checked this dvd
[10:13] <[miles] > adios gringos
[10:14] <[miles] > :D
[10:14] <TheHighChild> nvm, I don't really know what I am talking about
[10:14] <UzzaDead> probably more so than me TheHighChild :D
[10:14] <vinboy> i use KPDF to read my pdf, is there anything that I can use to (mark) where I should continue after i come back from my shower?
[10:14] <UzzaDead> leave the cursor at the end of the last word you read and threaten anyone who touches it with GBH :)
[10:14] <vinboy> basically a marker saying the position I read upto until now
[10:15] <sdolnack> anyoen try to install Initing? i'm getting libc6 dependency errors
[10:15] <vinboy> lol
[10:15] <vinboy> UzzaDead: wat is not very reliable is it :P
[10:15] <vinboy> *TAT
[10:15] <UzzaDead> it is after you knock the first sucker to touch it in the floor :)
[10:15] <UzzaDead> but seriously i have no idea
[10:16] <vinboy> :)
[10:16] <vinboy> thx
[10:16] <UzzaDead> np
[10:16] <TheHighChild> vinboy look for the message in red
[10:17] <TheHighChild> off to bed, take care folks
[10:17] <vinboy> message in res?
[10:18] <UzzaDead> no idea
[10:18] <UzzaDead> got a removable marker? lol
[10:18] <cyy> On My Kubuntu 6.06, these BMP files which are 16 bpp can't be displayed? how about your cases?
[10:18] <UzzaDead> draw on your screen :D
[10:19] <vinboy> haha
[10:19] <vinboy> good one
[10:19] <vinboy> but costly
[10:19] <UzzaDead> ONLY if its a crt
[10:20] <UzzaDead> nah you know one of those water soluble kids markers :)
[10:20] <UzzaDead> lick your finger and wipe it off the crt
[10:21] <UzzaDead> i have a feeling im gonna break something soon
[10:23] <vinboy> :D
[10:23] <attax|thana> i just upgraded to dapper, my second screen remains blank after booting, went fine before the upgrade, same xorg.conf :(
[10:23] <attax|thana> can someone help me?
[10:23] <vinboy> the guy at #kde doesn't know i'm talking about
[10:23] <sdolnack> anyone get xgl/compiz to work w/ Kubuntu?
[10:23] <UzzaDead> sdolnack, yes
[10:23] <vinboy> sdolnack:  not me
[10:23] <UzzaDead> its satans spawn
[10:23] <vinboy> UzzaDead: U DID?
[10:23] <UzzaDead> yes
[10:23] <UzzaDead> avoid it!
[10:24] <UzzaDead> it broke so much stuff i had to completely wipe my install and start over
[10:24] <sdolnack> uzzadead--i tried following the instructions on the wiki but they were for gnome
[10:24] <sdolnack> ahhhhhhhh
[10:24] <sdolnack> yes
[10:24] <vinboy> i tried the one on the ubuntu forum
[10:24] <vinboy> for kde
[10:24] <vinboy> but didn't work at all
[10:24] <UzzaDead> i can get you guys a link if you really honestly want to try it
[10:24] <sdolnack> my session started loading by default in xgl which slowed EVERYTHING down really bad
[10:25] <sdolnack> i ended up just removing the compiz and xgl packages
[10:25] <vinboy> ic
[10:25] <sdolnack> so wha'ts this enormous fuss about if it's still so slow and unstable and buggy?
[10:25] <UzzaDead> i guess if it works its great and pretty but if it doesnt...
[10:25] <UzzaDead> may god help you
[10:25] <sdolnack> i mean, the cube-desktop thing looks really cool but it's not worth it ifyou can't run your machine
[10:25] <sdolnack> are we allowed to say "fucking" on here?
[10:25] <rob> not too muchhh
[10:25] <sdolnack> ok
[10:26] <rob> err dam kb
[10:26] <sdolnack> yeah, it was getting quite messy
[10:26] <UzzaDead> sdolnack, i'd avoid it
[10:26] <sdolnack> yeah
[10:26] <UzzaDead> the language anyway
[10:26] <rob> I so need to get some new batteries for it!
[10:26] <UzzaDead> http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=1067
[10:26] <sdolnack> ahh
[10:26] <UzzaDead> if you REALLY want xgl
[10:26] <sdolnack> now if only i could get initng working...
[10:26] <UzzaDead> go to that link
[10:27] <sdolnack> i just installed kubuntu yesterday and am using linux for the first time
[10:27] <UzzaDead> i love it :D
[10:27] <sdolnack> i really really like it; i just need to find a solid replacement for foobar2k
[10:27] <sdolnack> haha fo sho
[10:28] <UzzaDead> foobar2k=media player right?
[10:28] <sdolnack> yes
[10:28] <UzzaDead> looked at xmms or amaroK?
[10:28] <sdolnack> i just installed swiftfox--i can't believe how fast it is
[10:28] <sdolnack> i hear they're decent
[10:28] <sdolnack> haven't tried them yet
[10:28] <UzzaDead> i really like amaroK, xmms is more like winamp for windows
[10:28] <UzzaDead> in fact it looks cloned
[10:28] <sdolnack> all my mp3's/oggs are on the windows parition--will there be any trouble accessing them all from media/sdax
[10:29] <sdolnack> ?
[10:29] <UzzaDead> shouldnt be, i do it :D
[10:29] <sdolnack> hah--I gave up winamp long ago
[10:29] <sdolnack> ace
[10:29] <UzzaDead> why?
[10:29] <sdolnack> did i give up winamp?
[10:29] <UzzaDead> yes
[10:29] <sdolnack> because foobar2000 is, in my eyes, far superior
[10:29] <UzzaDead> winamp pawns you like the kids' xmas presents xmas even in harlem!
[10:29] <sdolnack> it's like linux and windows
[10:30] <sdolnack> winamp is prettier and doens't boggle you with too many options
[10:30] <UzzaDead> even=eve^
[10:30] <sdolnack> foobar you can do ANYTHING, so it can be daunting to those who dont' know how to use it.
[10:30] <sdolnack> it's also, highly, HIGHLY customizable
[10:30] <UzzaDead> so winamp=for dummies and foobar=for the 13375?
[10:30] <sdolnack> haha i'd say so
[10:30] <sdolnack> and it seems to take up less memory
[10:30] <UzzaDead> i like winamp on windows
[10:31] <sdolnack> that's fine
[10:31] <noaXess> how can i make a shortcut, eg. Win+E with my home folder?
[10:31] <sdolnack> i'm not saying it's bad, per se
[10:31] <sdolnack> i just prefer fb2k
[10:31] <sdolnack> like my Rio Karma :-)
[10:31] <UzzaDead> but then again im liking linux more and more for every day tasks over windows
[10:31] <UzzaDead> so :)
[10:31] <UzzaDead> kanibal_, any luck?
[10:32] <UzzaDead> i think i broke him..
[10:32] <sdolnack> how long have you been using linux?
[10:33] <sdolnack> how's wine performance? i haven't tried it yet
[10:33] <sdolnack> and can i config this thing to not ask me for my password every time i load a program?
[10:33] <visik7> depending on the apps
[10:33] <visik7> mostly the same of windows
[10:33] <visik7> sometimes even better
[10:34] <UzzaDead> sdolnack, a few yeras now
[10:34] <UzzaDead> on and off
[10:34] <visik7> sometimes wrost
[10:34] <Kabal> does anyone know how to remove the dock-icon of Opera?
[10:34] <sdolnack> really??
[10:34] <sdolnack> they dont' slow down?
[10:34] <visik7> sdolnack: depend on the apps
[10:34] <sdolnack> yeah
[10:35] <visik7> dvdshrink works at the same speed for example
[10:35] <sdolnack> is there a way to not input a password every time i open/do something?
[10:35] <sdolnack> it seems ridiculous
[10:36] <visik7> the password is asked every time you need admin privilege
[10:36] <UzzaDead> it doesnt really bother me now
[10:36] <sdolnack> well can i somehow circumvent this?
[10:38] <UzzaDead> sdolnack, couldnt tell ya
[10:39] <sdolnack> jeez... everyone is obsessed with xgl
[10:39] <sdolnack> idon't get it--it's so slow
[10:40] <visik7> sdolnack: nullok_secure on /etc/pam.d/common-auth
[10:40] <visik7> but it definitly SUCKS
[10:40] <sdolnack> why?
[10:40] <UzzaDead> xgl blows hard
[10:40] <visik7> set nullpassowords
[10:40] <sdolnack> why does it suck?
[10:40] <visik7> insecure by default
[10:41] <UzzaDead> makes you angry
[10:41] <UzzaDead> and insecure
[10:41] <sdolnack> oh my!
[10:41] <visik7> if you install a service that relay on pam you will open the doors to the world
[10:41] <sdolnack> Kubuntu Dapper is like the greatest thing ever
[10:41] <sdolnack> this is so exciting
[10:41] <UzzaDead> by the world he means malicious pieces of garbage with way too much time on their hands, no life and daddy didnt hug em
[10:41] <Sewage> tj9991, NASA uses Python...... so does the NYSE, Industrial Light and Magic, AstraZeneca, Honeywell, and many others.
[10:42] <visik7> UzzaDead: that are more than someone can think
[10:42] <UzzaDead> eh?
[10:42] <UzzaDead> sdolnack, its like bending over to get the soap in a prison shower, dont do it
[10:42] <visik7> the ppl without a life are more than someone can think
[10:43] <visik7> sdolnack:btw you need to set nullok_secure and add the console which you preform login in /etc/securetty and set a null password
[10:43] <sdolnack> this all sounds very unsafe
[10:43] <UzzaDead> it is
[10:43] <sdolnack> aiight
[10:44] <sdolnack> whatevs
[10:44] <kanibal_> UzzaDead> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 up
[10:44] <sdolnack> and this whole sudo thing
[10:44] <kanibal_> jaja
[10:45] <UzzaDead> that fix it?
[10:45] <sdolnack> why can't you give yourself root privileges?
[10:45] <kanibal_> yes
[10:45] <UzzaDead> congrats, sorry i couldnt help more
[10:45] <sdolnack> apparently you're not supposed have root privileges in ubuntu
[10:45] <UzzaDead> thats what sudo is for
[10:45] <kanibal_> there was not a inet address
[10:45] <UzzaDead> and running as root is a very bad idea
[10:45] <UzzaDead> !root
[10:45] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:45] <kanibal_> only inet6 address
[10:46] <kanibal_> for ipv6
[10:47] <sdolnack> what is ipv6?
[10:47] <UzzaDead> internet protocol version 6
[10:48] <sdolnack> i read that disabling it speeds stuff up
[10:50] <UzzaDead> no idea
[10:50] <UzzaDead> im getting my full speed as far as i can tell, no complaints here
[10:50] <sdolnack> who's running dapper?
[10:52] <stipe> me
[10:52] <Steven_M> UzzaDead: At the moment I don't have muitiverse set up in my sources.list. Here's my current sources.list http://pastebin.com/764105, someone suggested that in order to get multiverse working I should set up my sources.list like this ( http://pastebin.com/764117). Another person told me to simply add the following line to my current list. "deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse" Which method is better and what's the diff
[10:52] <dxu2005> so, jetzt hab ich konversation
[10:52] <UzzaDead> Steven_M, i think i told you the last one
[10:52] <UzzaDead> just do the last one
[10:53] <dxu2005> ups sorry, falscher cahnel
[10:53] <UzzaDead> sdolnack, i run dapper on two soon to be 6+ systems :D
[10:53] <stipe> anyone mount smbfs with fstab?
[10:54] <UzzaDead> Steven_M, ?
[10:55] <stipe> the problem is this: i want to mount smbfs at boot time, so i write the command in fstab, but when i reboot no smbfs is mount...i use kubuntu dapper
[10:55] <nixternal`zzz> g'nite all
[10:55] <UzzaDead> no idea stipe
[10:55] <UzzaDead> can you paste your fstab?
[10:56] <stipe> yes
[10:56] <UzzaDead> via pastbin :)
[10:56] <UzzaDead> pastebin^
[10:56] <stipe> where is?
[10:56] <stipe> pastebin?
[10:56] <UzzaDead> http://www.pastebin.com
[10:56] <stipe> ok
[10:56] <Steven_M> UzzaDead:  ok, so is there any difference between the two methods?
[10:57] <UzzaDead> Steven_M, no not really
[10:57] <UzzaDead> it does the same thing
[10:57] <stipe> http://pastebin.com/764705
[10:57] <UzzaDead> no idea stipe... sorry
[10:58] <UzzaDead> i can only see the most basic of errors unforunately since im a noob :D
[10:58] <stipe> UzzaDead: i think my fstab is ok, if I log on my system an I go to my shell and i write sudo mount -a it's all ok
[10:58] <Steven_M> UzzaDead:  ok, I'll go with your method then, thanks :)
[10:58] <UzzaDead> strange..
[10:59] <sdolnack> so can i suspend/hibernate my laptop in ubuntu?
[10:59] <stipe> i use this fstab in the previous kubuntu
[10:59] <UzzaDead> np Steven_M mine makes it easier to comment it out if you need to in the future
[10:59] <UzzaDead> stipe, that would probably indicated your fstab is ok
[10:59] <UzzaDead> so the fix is beyond me
[10:59] <Steven_M> ok cool :)
[10:59] <UzzaDead> also dont forget to hit fetch updates
[11:00] <stipe> UzzaDead: i think is a problem of "clock" i think kubuntu set up fstab and the the network.....
[11:00] <UzzaDead> of clock?
[11:00] <UzzaDead> time?
[11:00] <UzzaDead> err
[11:01] <UzzaDead> you mean kubuntu sets the fstab up and THEN the network?
[11:01] <stipe> yes
[11:01] <UzzaDead> hmm that very well could be
[11:01] <stipe> sorry for my bad english
[11:02] <UzzaDead> mines not much better and im american :D
[11:02] <stipe> but before kubuntu dapper all works very well
[11:02] <UzzaDead> im not sure how you'd load the network before fstab though
[11:02] <UzzaDead> maybe wait for one of the more experienced users
[11:02] <stipe> UzzaDead: ok thx a lot
[11:02] <UzzaDead> np
[11:02] <UzzaDead> good luck
[11:02] <stipe> thx
[11:04] <UzzaDead> i hope i didnt break steven_m's sources :D
[11:04] <stipe> any other can help me?
[11:04] <kanibal_> see you!!!
[11:04] <UzzaDead> later kanibal_
[11:05] <UzzaDead> stipe, here in the states its early in the morning everyone is either in the bed or getting ready for work
[11:05] <UzzaDead> i'd try later on today
[11:05] <stipe> an ok....true...:)
[11:05] <UzzaDead> :)
[11:05] <UzzaDead> du sprechen deutsch ja?
[11:05] <stipe> no
[11:05] <stipe> i'm italian
[11:05] <UzzaDead> ah..
[11:06] <UzzaDead> i dont know ANY italian
[11:06] <stipe> :)
[11:06] <UzzaDead> can you send me an italian woman by chance? :D
[11:06] <stipe> no, i think i dont understand?
[11:07] <UzzaDead> never mind just a joke :)
[11:07] <stipe> an ok
[11:07] <UzzaDead> your english isnt half bad though
[11:07] <stipe> are u american?
[11:08] <UzzaDead> yeah
[11:08] <stipe> where?
[11:08] <UzzaDead> alaska
[11:09] <Sewage> tj9991, NASA uses Python...... so does the NYSE, Industrial Light and Magic, AstraZeneca, Honeywell, and many others.
[11:09] <tj9991> stop
[11:09] <tj9991> how many times have you said that
[11:09] <tj9991> that exact sentence
[11:09] <UzzaDead> tj9991, whats that all about?
[11:09] <UzzaDead> you piss him off or something?
[11:09] <tj9991> i dont know
[11:10] <tj9991> but he says something, I dont respond
[11:10] <tj9991> he says it 12 more times until i finally say something
[11:10] <UzzaDead> ahhh..
[11:10] <UzzaDead> my sympathies
[11:10] <Sewage> tj9991, did you get your storage problem fixed
[11:10] <tj9991> thats another one of them
[11:10] <UzzaDead> horrible..
[11:11] <tj9991> I did 57 and 59 seconds with intuitive f2l today
[11:11] <Sewage> wow
[11:11] <Sewage> thats like twice what the others can do
[11:11] <tj9991> yes because everyone does those times
[11:11] <tj9991> no one gradually gets there! its all instant
[11:11] <tj9991> i took up cubing two months ago
[11:12] <UzzaDead> what are you talking about?
[11:12] <tj9991> rubik's cubes
[11:12] <UzzaDead> ah..
[11:12] <Sewage> I dont know.  this is the Kubuntu channel
[11:12] <UzzaDead> i never could figure those out
[11:12] <tj9991> no this is #rubiks you crazy man
[11:12] <UzzaDead> guess that means im a dummy :D
[11:12] <tj9991> they have lots of beginner methods anyone can do
[11:16] <TheLair> hello
[11:16] <UzzaDead> greetings
[11:16] <TheLair> i need help with my AVM Fr!tz Wlan Usb STick an Kubuntu 6.06
[11:17] <UzzaDead> i need wifi help too :)
[11:17] <TheLair> i just managed to open "ndisgtk"
[11:17] <TheLair> and installed the correct driver
[11:17] <TheLair> via manufacturers cd
[11:17] <UzzaDead> ok
[11:17] <TheLair> now the device is listed in "ndisgtk" - but nothing happens clicking on "configure network"
[11:17] <TheLair> what now?
[11:17] <TheLair> :)
[11:17] <UzzaDead> have you tried iwconfig via the command line?
[11:18] <TheLair> wifi is the thing which is a bit getting on my nerves under linux.
[11:18] <TheLair> no
[11:18] <UzzaDead> give that a go
[11:18] <TheLair> i absolutely dont know what to do from now on even theres is no wireless entry in my system settings
[11:19] <UzzaDead> im a noob :)
[11:19] <UzzaDead> i cant even get linux to see my card
[11:19] <TheLair> UzzaDead: iwconfig shows me, that with my internal wireless card the interface "eth1" is configured corrrectly
[11:19] <TheLair> but now i wanna set up the usb stick and use that one instead
[11:20] <TheLair> internal card?
[11:20] <UzzaDead> pcmcia on a laptop
[11:20] <TheLair> i used the kwifimanager onmy acer aspire 1690 - it works after a bug
[11:20] <UzzaDead> hmmm
[11:20] <TheLair> hm seems to be same thing
[11:20] <TheLair> no card apperas at all?
[11:20] <UzzaDead> none
[11:20] <TheLair> got no idea then
[11:20] <TheLair> noob too .)
[11:20] <UzzaDead> :D
[11:21] <UzzaDead> doesnt help my laptop is a piece o' junk
[11:21] <UzzaDead> but lemme get you a link
[11:21] <trym_> Im using two nvidia cards to utilize 3 monitors (xinerama). The drawing performance is EXTREMELY bad..
[11:21] <trym_> when I move windows.. they get stuck
[11:22] <UzzaDead> TheLair, try this link
[11:22] <UzzaDead> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wireless&titlesearch=Titles
[11:23] <UzzaDead> in specific this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide?highlight=%28wireless%29
[11:27] <TheLair> okay
[11:27] <TheLair> im gettung closer to it i think
[11:27] <TheLair> http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=search&nodef=1&Query=1386&ResultView=2&InUser=1&Sort=2
[11:27] <TheLair> i followed Susannahs advisory
[11:28] <TheLair> im ready with : driver and hardware present
[11:28] <TheLair> how can i route inet traffic now oer this device?
[11:29] <UzzaDead> dunno..
[11:29] <UzzaDead> i pretty much have to deal with it works or it doesnt
[11:29] <UzzaDead> if it doesnt im SOL
[11:30] <TheLair> how can i add this device? im getting frustrated :)
[11:30] <UzzaDead> mein deutsch ist nicht gut :)
[11:30] <UzzaDead> i probably mangled that too
[11:31] <kakalto> I previously did not have 'usplash' in the boot runlevel, as I didn't want it to show itself. I added it temporarily to try something, then removed it again, but it is still running on bootup! any ideas how to fix this?
[11:31] <UzzaDead> enable and disable again?
[11:32] <UzzaDead> wow i only mangled one word :D
[11:32] <UzzaDead> it should have been meine deutsch ist nicht gut!
[11:33] <makko> why don't my gtk apps get the font settings of the kde apps (i set it up that way in system settings)?
[11:34] <UzzaDead> no idea
[11:34] <AeSSeD> Hi anyone test avidemux with dapper lts?
[11:34] <kakalto> makko: do you have the qt-engines-gtk (or something similar) installed?
[11:35] <kakalto> makko: did you specifically configure the gtk fonts to be same as qt ones in the kcontrol panel?
[11:35] <TheLair> avidemux seems to work
[11:35] <AeSSeD> I've problem with audio
[11:35] <UzzaDead> i have many many problems :)
[11:35] <TheLair> AeSSeD: sry cant help
[11:36] <AeSSeD> UzzaDead: :)
[11:36] <kakalto> AeSSeD: what is this problem you speak of?
[11:36] <AeSSeD> Error opening PCM device plughw:0,0
[11:37] <makko> kakalto: yes, specifically. do i still need the engines-gtk thing?
[11:37] <AeSSeD> with breezy work all :(
[11:38] <kakalto> makko: well, I'm not particularly familiar with kde on ubuntu/dapper, so I'm not completely sure, but if you do a search, I believe there is a package that's something similar to that
[11:38] <kakalto> makko: "apt-cache search engines" should find it for ya
[11:38] <kakalto> makko: or search for it in adept
[11:38] <kakalto> AeSSeD: have you tried seeking help in #ubuntu?
[11:39] <AeSSeD> kakalto: not yet...
[11:39] <UzzaDead> im out nite all
[11:39] <kakalto> UzzaDead: 'night :)
[11:39] <kakalto> AeSSeD: well, I wouldn't have a clue, so that's probably a good place to look
[11:40] <AeSSeD> ok thx
[11:48] <tuxcicles> kakalto: just don't use gtk apps, use kde
[11:48] <TheLai1> --- still needing help with my fitz usb stick and kubuntu ---
[11:48] <kakalto> tuxcicles: hmm? it wasn't my problem, I was attempting to help makko
[11:49] <AeSSeD> kakalto: I've resolved with try change address manually
[11:52] <AeSSeD> the problem is also related in wiki when using two sound card :/
[11:54] <kakalto> AeSSeD: so... you finding a solution?
[11:54] <kakalto> or still stuck
[11:55] <trym_> Im using two nvidia cards to utilize 3 monitors (xinerama). The drawing performance is EXTREMELY bad..
[11:55] <trym_> any ideas?
[11:55] <tuxcicles> AeSSeD: I have 2 sound cards, well, sorta
[11:56] <tuxcicles> I have USB headphones that have a soundcard built in, and to get it to work, I have to assign it to /dev/dsp1
[11:57] <AeSSeD> kakalto: I've change alsa device in plughw:1,0
[11:58] <makko> tuxcicles: what do you mean don't use gtk apps?
[12:00] <kakalto> makko: find non-gtk equivalents
[12:00] <kakalto> firefox: konqueror or opera
[12:00] <kakalto> gaim: kopete
[12:00] <tuxcicles> well, that could be a solution to having windows and stuff that have a look like they belong, use kde if your using kde
[12:01] <kakalto> trym_: I assume you're using the proper nvidia driver?
[12:01] <trym_> kakalto: yup
[12:02] <trym_> of course :)
[12:04] <andrisp> hi all, how can i make kde 3.5.2 taskbar to show software's name instead of opened document name. For example - Konversation button in taskbar looks like this -> '#kubuntu - Konverastion'. But I'd like just 'Konversation'. Is it possible ?
[12:08] <defrysk>  trym_ old nvidia cards ?
[12:10] <tuxcicles> andrisp: install kde, remove kubuntu desktop
[12:11] <andrisp> tuxcicles: are you sure ? i don't want to remove kuduntu desktop
[12:12] <tuxcicles> don't be afraid, mine dont say kubuntu, or ubuntu anything
[12:12] <trym_> defrysk: geforce 7600GT
[12:14] <tuxcicles> andrisp: my desktop still operates kubuntuish, plus i got all the functionality of kde
[12:15] <Sewage> my KDE is all messed up
[12:16] <tuxcicles> andrisp: in fact, i installed a kde 3.5.2 repository for breezy, worked - worked excellent
[12:18] <defrysk> trym_, glxinfo | grep direct
[12:24] <[miles] > Hi, can anyone tell me if Amarok on dapper supports gstreamer or has that died off?
[12:24] <defrysk> Amarok uses xine
[12:25] <[miles] > defrysk: it did use gstreamer tho
[12:25] <andrisp> How can I make Quanta Plus to keep indenting when I press 'Enter' ?
[12:25] <[miles] > are u saying that now amarok's default engine is xine?
[12:25] <defrysk> [miles] , sudo apt-get install amarok-engines
[12:25] <[miles] > nod
[12:25] <[miles] > did that
[12:25] <[miles] > only gave me arts and xine
[12:25] <[miles] > no gstreamer
[12:25] <defrysk> yes
[12:26] <Sewage> My Kubunu is messed up
[12:26] <Sewage> programs arent showing up in the taskbar anymore
[12:26] <defrysk> Sewage, my first bet it you did that yourself
[12:26] <Sewage> Im sure I did
[12:26] <Sewage> what does that have to do with anything
[12:26] <defrysk> good
[12:26] <Sewage> are you going to help?
[12:26] <defrysk> what did you do to make it the way it is ?
[12:27] <[miles] > defrysk: you know which plugin gives me mp3 support in xine please?
[12:27] <Sewage> I think from changing the Konqueror settings
[12:27] <andrisp> Sewage: I think you removed taskbar from panel
[12:27] <Sewage> andred, ok
[12:27] <Sewage> I didnt remove it
[12:27] <Sewage> I lost tons of settings
[12:27] <defrysk> [miles] , http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[12:28] <[miles] > ok thanks
[12:28] <Sewage> andred, you might be right
[12:28] <Sewage> andred, ty
[12:28] <Sewage> andrisp, ty
[12:28] <saku> Is your panel ok, Sewage?
[12:28] <Sewage> now it is
[12:29] <Sewage> Id better reboot
[12:29] <Sewage> lots of things got messed up
[12:29] <saku> I thought it was the kicker, but check kde -modules in system settings
[12:29] <Sewage> Konversation is now invisible when minimized
[12:30] <Sewage> it doesnt even appear in alt-tab when minimized
[12:30] <Sewage> what am I checking for
[12:30] <trym_> defrysk: direct rendering: Yes
[12:30] <defrysk> trym_, ok
[12:30] <trym_> thats the way it should be?
[12:31] <defrysk> yes
[12:31] <trym_> so no clues?
[12:31] <saku> i dont know about konversation, but you can see if kde -modules dealing the program are running or not
[12:32] <[miles] > haha
[12:32] <Sewage> nothing happened when I typed kde -modules
[12:32] <[miles] > my USB telefone is playing the mp3
[12:32] <[miles] > :D
[12:32] <robin> !restricted
[12:32] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:32] <Sewage> bash: kde: command not found
[12:32] <defrysk> trym_, only thing that might be the prob is setup of the monitors
[12:32] <defrysk> trym_, but am no too much into that
[12:32] <trym_> hmm
[12:33] <trym_> what part of the setup?
[12:33] <defrysk> hor and vert
[12:33] <Sewage> saku, is my kde messed up
[12:34] <defrysk> trym_,  HorizSync and VertRefresh
[12:34] <trym_> defrysk: that can actually cause problems?
[12:34] <Sewage> is kde -modules a valid command?
[12:34] <trym_> lagging?
[12:35] <defrysk> not lagging I think
[12:35] <Sewage> is kde -modules a valid command?
[12:36] <xst_> How do I make KDE show thumbnails of my images and movies in konqueror?
[12:36] <defrysk> xst_, does it not do that by default ?
[12:36] <_micha> guten tag
[12:37] <_micha> habe massive probleme beim booten nach breezy>dapper
[12:37] <saku> ok, sewage, what was the problem anyway?n
[12:37] <Sewage> I lost a lot of settings
[12:37] <_micha> erst findet das system kein netzwerk mehr, dann bleibt es bei dem schriftzug kubuntu stehen
[12:38] <Sewage> Konversatoin isnt showing up when minimized
[12:38] <Sewage> Amarok thinks IM running it for the first time
[12:38] <Sewage> etc
[12:39] <defrysk> !de
[12:39] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[12:39] <Sewage> and I typed   kde -modules   in the console, and it said  bash: kde: command not found
[12:39] <[miles] > bbiam
[12:41] <dobblego> is kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso a bootable CD? VMWare won't boot it
[12:42] <robin> I got somethign very stupid, if I go the search bar in konqueror, I can't use enter to search :S
[12:42] <saku> My settings are in a constant change, too
[12:42] <robin> I don't know how I have changed it.. but don't know how to fix it either.
[12:42] <Sewage> saku, yours got messed up?
[12:42] <saku> ignore most of them untill you can alter a few
[12:43] <saku> Language settings..etc
[12:44] <saku> sounds with Ekiga, Skype, browser plugins..
[12:44] <Sewage> ?
[12:45] <katakombi> hi.
[12:45] <saku> Kubuntu seems not that ready as when started for the first time
[12:45] <katakombi> anybody else having trouble powering down via the power button in dapper?
[12:46] <saku> but thats how it goes while getting to know new os
[12:50] <saku> for example I had no sound in browser flash player video
[12:51] <saku> I made asound.conf to /etc
[12:51] <saku> and sounds work
[12:52] <saku> but they seem to work from some other .conf too, dont know where
[12:53] <saku> libasd is configured somewhere else, too
[12:55] <saku> greater degree of freedom allows multiple configurations to steer the drivers
[01:06] <andrisp> !help
[01:13] <haider> heey!
[01:13] <haider> Does anyone know how to start xgl in kubuntu?
[01:15] <haider> ?
[01:17] <ryanakca> lol... the kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso torrent just decided to stall at 99.71%!
[01:19] <mrmist> Hi all
[01:19] <mrmist> Is it hard to update from Breezy to Dapper ?
[01:22] <mrmist> anyone ??
[01:22] <katakombi> dont think so.
[01:23] <katakombi> do you have /home as separate partition?
[01:23] <mrmist> nope
[01:23] <noiesmo> !upgrade
[01:23] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[01:23] <mrmist> unfortunately not
[01:23] <katakombi> i'd suggest to do so.
[01:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !multiverse
[01:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:23] <katakombi> that way its not too painful do to a new install
[01:23] <noiesmo> !easysource
[01:23] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:24] <mrmist> Yeah, I know. But I was new the first time I installed kubuntu
[01:24] <mrmist> Is it genery a better approach to reinstall ??
[01:24] <mrmist> generally
[01:24] <katakombi> in my opinion, yes
[01:24] <mrmist> What about all lib's and stuff?? And All the source-code ?
[01:24] <katakombi> depends somewhat on how many tweaks and newly installed apps your system already has
[01:25] <defrysk> mrmist, if you have a seperate /home its definitly better
[01:25] <mrmist> that's true
[01:25] <mrmist> defrysk: yeah. I know. Maybe I should consider reinstalling Linux alltogether
[01:25] <mrmist> I've got this samba-share I could upload the current ".home" to
[01:25] <katakombi> I'd advise you to reinstall ubuntu at least for another time, simply to setup your partitions right :)
[01:26] <defrysk> mrmist, make sure to make a seperately /home partition so you can safely install every next version without dataloss
[01:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there? i'd like to ask you which are the main package managers for debian.. i use to use synaptics.. but i'd like some more functionalities
[01:26] <mrmist> Is it hard to mound the home partition after installing then ?
[01:26] <katakombi> you can safe your currently installed applications:
[01:26] <katakombi> dpkg --get-selections > mypackages.txt
[01:27] <defrysk> mrmist, you can do that during install
[01:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> suppose that you are trying doing something.. and you install some packages.. i'd like to have the history to be selected and aborted
[01:27] <katakombi> after installing, you run dpkg --set-selections < mypackages.txt
[01:27] <mrmist> defrysk: Yeah. Guess you're right. But that's kinda' the point with Ubuntu, isn't it? That you're supposed to be able to upgrade ?
[01:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> katakombi: is that for me?
[01:27] <katakombi> no, for mrmist
[01:27] <defrysk> mrmist, I had no probs whatsover upgrading from breezy to dapper on another box
[01:27] <mrmist> cool
[01:28] <katakombi> mrmist, back up your sensitive data and try to upgrade
[01:28] <defrysk> mrmist, if you used automatix on your breezy there might be some issues
[01:28] <katakombi> if youre not satisfied you can reinstall later
[01:29] <mrmist> wow... --get-selections gave me 1821 rows of packages
[01:29] <defrysk> !upgrade
[01:29] <katakombi> since now there's some audience: anybody having trouble powering off via powerbutton?
[01:29] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[01:30] <mrmist> katakombi: works nice for me
[01:30] <katakombi> but you run breezy
[01:30] <xst_> For some reason konqueror doesn't show any thumbnails of my local images/movies. What can cause this?
[01:30] <mrmist> katakombi: yeah... heh... you're right
[01:30] <katakombi> xst_ i think you have to enable it (kcontrol center -> browser ->previews)
[01:31] <defrysk> mrmist, if in doubt , breezy is supported for one more year :)
[01:31] <mrmist> defrysk: I juist finished my exams. So it's a good time to upgrade :)
[01:32] <defrysk> yes
[01:32] <julia> hi
[01:32] <katakombi> does anybody know when the efty edge repos will be opened
[01:32] <mrmist> But here's another question: When installing kubuntu, the i386 core is installed, right !?
[01:32] <katakombi> mrmist, jes
[01:32] <xst_> katakombi: I don't have a "browser -> previews" entry. :-(
[01:32] <defrysk> katakombi, usually after 6 weeks
[01:32] <mrmist> I'd have to manually download a "i686" version of the core
[01:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !package
[01:32] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[01:32] <katakombi> xst_ err not browser, but file managfer
[01:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !manager
[01:33] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[01:33] <julia> i've installed my wlan-card, and it does connect and gets an ip, but i can't get into the internet
[01:33] <katakombi> mrmist, i ve done so already
[01:33] <katakombi> no problems there
[01:33] <mrmist> Yeah, sure. But GRUB installs the new core as a separate choice when booting up, right !?
[01:33] <mrmist> any way to aviod this?
[01:34] <mrmist> or maybe remove some options from the startup menu?
[01:34] <katakombi> why wouldnt you want that?
[01:34] <mrmist> Why would I want that ?
[01:34] <xst_> katakombi: In "file manager -> behavior -> file icons" I have checked the "images" checkbox. Is that what you mean?
[01:34] <katakombi> mrmist, simply remove the i386 afterwards
[01:35] <katakombi> then you got only two entries left
[01:35] <mrmist> katakombi: it's that easy ? The package system will remove the option from Grub ?
[01:35] <xst_> katakombi: Also in "file manager -> previews & metadata" I have checked "local protocols/file"
[01:36] <mrmist> how about xgl i Dapper ??
[01:36] <mrmist> Does it work yet ?
[01:36] <katakombi> xst_ the ladder is what I meant
[01:36] <katakombi> mrmist, I didn't get it running
[01:36] <katakombi> but there are howtos
[01:37] <rraajj> mrmist: I *can* run XGL/Compiz in my Dapper setup, but KDE fails to load correctly everytime I boot.
[01:37] <mrmist> I've got good 3d-accel on my ATI card here, but X is slow. At least when running KDE
[01:37] <mrmist> Hmm
[01:37] <katakombi> xgl still sucks in several ways (gives me wrong kbd and so on)
[01:37] <xst_> katakombi: OK - but that has been selected all the time and it still doesn't show any previews. :-(
[01:37] <katakombi> which card you got?
[01:37] <mrmist> katakombi: is  xgl open-source then ?
[01:38] <katakombi> mrmist, yes
[01:38] <xst_> I'm using breezy, by the way
[01:38] <katakombi> xst_ dunno! Its working on my system :(
[01:38] <xst_> katakombi: ok, thanks anyway
[01:38] <mrmist> katakombi: cool
[01:38] <mrmist> katakombi: I've got a Ati Radeon 9800 Pro (AGP)
[01:38] <katakombi> mrmist, you drivers however are not
[01:39] <xst_> Would you generally recommend an upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[01:39] <Nookie^> does anyone know why sound is much more lower in amarok then in xmms.... Really bad
[01:39] <mrmist> katakombi: huh ?
[01:39] <katakombi> you got the firegl drivers?
[01:39] <xst_> Is dapper stable enough for that?
[01:39] <mrmist> katakombi: I'm using fglrx
[01:39] <mrmist> It's good for 3D, but seems slow with KDE
[01:39] <mrmist> Or maybe it's KDE that's slow... what do I know :)
[01:39] <katakombi> mrmist, should be performant on the common xorg as well !
[01:40] <mrmist> I can't even move a window, without the graphics lagging behind
[01:40] <katakombi> xst_ I found several issues
[01:40] <katakombi> but breezy is way too old for me, so I upgraded
[01:40] <steph_> hi - i have a pb with my usb drive, it doesn't automount, how can i tell kubuntu to automount this key?
[01:40] <xst_> katakombi: ok. Any serious issues?
[01:41] <katakombi> not really. just annoying ones
[01:41] <mrmist> Any way to test the performance in C
[01:41] <mrmist> eh... the performance in X
[01:41] <katakombi> acpi seems broken, and many kde bugs
[01:41] <katakombi> mrmist depends on what performance youre interested in
[01:42] <xst_> katakombi: I wonder if these kind of bugs will be fixed in the near future
[01:42] <mrmist> just desktop-windows and stuff. The 3D here is find
[01:42] <mrmist> fine
[01:42] <katakombi> xst_ so do I!
[01:42] <katakombi> no upgrades since dapper has been released, however
[01:42] <mrmist> I'm generally a bit dissapointed about the speed in KDE
[01:42] <mrmist> Maybe I'm doing something wrong
[01:43] <katakombi> mrmist, what kind of system do you have?
[01:44] <edneymatias> hi there!
[01:45] <mrmist> katakombi: What do you mean !? Harware ?
[01:46] <mrmist> katakombi: Pentium 4 800MHz bus, 2x256MB ram,
[01:46] <Hobbsee> ouchy.  better to run xfce on that...
[01:46] <mrmist> katakombi: 1.8 GHz nothwood processor
[01:46] <Hobbsee> !tell vinboy about gpg
[01:47] <mrmist> heh... sorry for all the typos. Just finished this springs last exam
[01:47] <katakombi> mrmist, that should be sufficient.  what exactly is causing slowdown?
[01:47] <mrmist> It's just not as responsive as I'd like it to be
[01:48] <noteventime> 'ello
[01:48] <katakombi> you got 3.5.3?
[01:48] <noteventime> Is anyone in here using runit?
[01:48] <katakombi> it's improved in speed
[01:48] <mrmist> katakombi: When I drag a window over the Icons on the desktop, the icons go "blank" and it takes a second or so before they reappear
[01:49] <mrmist> 3.5.3 ?
[01:49] <noteventime> If yes, could you tell me how to get it to start kdm :P
[01:49] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.3
[01:49] <ubotu> somebody said kde3.5.3 was to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[01:49] <Hobbsee> noteventime: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[01:49] <katakombi> mrmist, you might consider switching to ubuntu. it's faster
[01:49] <noteventime> mrmist, usually due to bad gpu drivers
[01:49] <noteventime> Hobbsee, runit, not init :)
[01:50] <noteventime> Or does it work the same way?
[01:50] <defrysk> kde3.5.3 runs perfectly here , never seen anything better
[01:50] <Hobbsee> noteventime: that restarts kdm, yes
[01:50] <katakombi> mrmist, seems like a graphics driver issue indeed
[01:50] <katakombi> ever tried the builtin ati driver? or fbdev?
[01:50] <katakombi> they dont offer no OpenGL, though
[01:51] <mrmist> I need OpenGL
[01:51] <noteventime> Hobbsee, works now, but how do I get it to start automatically?
[01:51] <mrmist> That's why I'm so eager on XGL
[01:51] <Hobbsee> noteventime: it should start automatically, if it's set to init.d..
[01:51] <katakombi> if (linux+OGL) then (!ATI)
[01:51] <mrmist> 'cause OpenGL is very nice indeed now!
[01:51] <Hobbsee> er, if it's in there
[01:51] <mrmist> hehehe
[01:51] <noteventime> Hobbsee, I just installed runit, an init replacement
[01:51] <Hobbsee> ah...what's the difference?
[01:52] <noteventime> a LOT faster
[01:52] <mrmist> linux+OGL works  just fine
[01:52] <mrmist> if (linux+OGL) then (!KDE || X)
[01:52] <mrmist> ??
[01:52] <noteventime> I just have to find out how to manage services :)
[01:52] <AeSSeD> with compiled kernel from source I don't see graphics boot why??
[01:53] <noteventime> Anyway, there is probably info on the webpage :)
[01:53] <noteventime> AeSSed, its a kernel patch
[01:53] <noteventime> You need to add the usplash patch to the kernel, AFAIK
[01:53] <noteventime> anyway, brb
[01:53] <AeSSeD> noteventime: why it isn't include with other patch?
[01:54] <katakombi> is usplash working with fbdev-tng, anybody?
[01:54] <mrmist> katakombi: I'm just having problems in X itself, not with Ogl
[01:55] <katakombi> mrmist, yeah i know. but it's a driver issue anyhow
[01:55] <AeSSeD> noteventime: why it isn't include with other patch?
[01:55] <noteventime> Other?
[01:55] <katakombi> okay, another one (maybe this time :) ... how to build a custom kernel with restricted modules?
[01:57] <mrmist> Any way to get a hold of the current "fglrx" version ?
[01:57] <mrmist> I'm running glxgears with 814 fps
[01:58] <mooking> i am just new to this distro but i have nvidia drivers working.... sorry i just joined the chat i might be missing something i get 3000FTP glxgears
[01:58] <mooking> FPS*
[01:59] <defrysk> mooking, glxinfo | grep direct
[01:59] <katakombi> mrmist, that's not okay
[01:59] <mrmist> katakombi: is it too slow ?
[01:59] <katakombi> maybe your ogl install is broken
[01:59] <mrmist> hmm
[01:59] <katakombi> mrmist think so
[02:00] <mrmist> katakombi: hmm... what do I do to find out then ?
[02:00] <katakombi> i got 400 even in software gl (on a slower pc)
[02:00] <mrmist> I'm only on a 1.8 GHz
[02:00] <katakombi> glxinfo | grep -i 'Rendering'
[02:00] <katakombi> what is it telling you?
[02:00] <mrmist> direct rendering: Yes
[02:01] <defrysk> so its up
[02:01] <katakombi> hmm, seems okay then
[02:01] <katakombi> but 800 is fucking slow
[02:01] <katakombi> you got AGP enabled?
[02:01] <defrysk> glxgears is not a benchmarker
[02:01] <mrmist> how do I find out ?
[02:01] <katakombi> install some 3d apps
[02:01] <katakombi> err games
[02:01] <mrmist> hold up
[02:02] <noteventime> try installing the ogre3d samples
[02:02] <mrmist> I was running the fgl-specific glxgears
[02:02] <mrmist> how do I get the FPS-count on the original glxgears
[02:02] <mrmist> ??
[02:02] <mrmist> I've got games... they're OK
[02:02] <noteventime> -printfps
[02:03] <katakombi> mrmist, not at all
[02:03] <katakombi> uh great!
[02:03] <mrmist> katakombi: huh ?
[02:03] <mrmist> aaaaaaaah
[02:03] <mrmist> 25513 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5102.472 FPS
[02:03] <mooking> wow
[02:03] <katakombi> seems better
[02:03] <mooking> what card?
[02:03] <katakombi> i got 3200
[02:04] <mrmist> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
[02:04] <mooking> nice
[02:04] <mooking> it seems setup right :D
[02:04] <mrmist> som my OGL is OK :)
[02:04] <mrmist> I was right :D juhu
[02:04] <katakombi> i think so
[02:04] <mooking> i only get 4000 athlon 1800xp with 6800GT AGP
[02:04] <katakombi> give xgl a try
[02:04] <mrmist> xgl !?
[02:05] <mrmist> how ??
[02:05] <mrmist> ah
[02:05] <katakombi> dunno. there are howtos in the wiki
[02:05] <mrmist> hehe
[02:05] <mooking> lol
[02:05] <mrmist> xgl in Dapper
[02:05] <mrmist> I kinda' brough up the issue, and forgot. Those bloody exams... hehe
[02:06] <katakombi> wish you luck on that
[02:06] <mrmist> with Dapper ?
[02:06] <katakombi> as well, and xgl
[02:06] <mrmist> There's lots of work being done on it these days, right ?
[02:06] <katakombi> not by me
[02:06] <katakombi> :D
[02:07] <mrmist> I'm not even trying to do it as long as I'm still running Breezy
[02:07] <mrmist> katakombi: hehe
[02:07] <mrmist> Ok... so I'm about to take this backup of my files
[02:08] <mrmist> is there any way I can list the symbolic links on my subfolders ?
[02:08] <mrmist> IN my subfolders
[02:09] <katakombi> ls -la
[02:11] <mrmist> katakombi: er... I'd like to filter out only the links
[02:11] <morrow> find <folder> -type l (if you want all symlinks recursive)
[02:12] <mrmist> ah
[02:12] <mrmist> i could do a "ls -al | grep "-\>"
[02:13] <mrmist> hmm
[02:13] <mrmist> nope
[02:13] <mrmist> didn't work
[02:14] <mrmist> ls -al -R | grep "\->"
[02:14] <mrmist> cool :D
[02:15] <mrmist> ouch... 374 linked files
[02:15] <mrmist> Any idea how to take a backup of this ?
[02:16] <Lord_Devi> I tried installin sun-java, but the it required interaction from me in the "Show Details" window while installing. I couldn't give it (Unresponsive for some reason?), so i had to kill adept, and now the database is locked..
[02:16] <Lord_Devi> Killing the adept ps's didn't do it, so is there maybe a .pid or something i need to get rid of as well to get adept up again?
[02:17] <defrysk> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[02:17] <Lord_Devi> hrm ok, i'll try
[02:18] <Lord_Devi> thanks
[02:20] <mrmist> katakombi: Thanks for some good tips :)
[02:21] <katakombi> youre welcome :)
[02:21] <Lord_Devi> this does alot of stuff for just tryin to reset a defunct pid..
[02:25] <AeSSeD> the best method for compile kernel??dpkg_buildpackage or make-kpkg?
[02:25] <katakombi> i think make-kpkg
[02:25] <katakombi> in combination with fakeroot
[02:26] <AeSSeD> fakeroot is an option of make-kpkg?
[02:27] <katakombi> nope
[02:27] <katakombi> fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image
[02:28] <katakombi> builds a kernel image
[02:28] <katakombi> but you could also build headers, docs, etc
[02:28] <katakombi> fakeroot is needed as far as i know unless you want to do it as root
[02:28] <AeSSeD> ah ok :)
[02:29] <AeSSeD> but don't resolve my problem with graphic boot ;)
[02:29] <katakombi> what kind of prb?
[02:30] <AeSSeD> black screen :/
[02:30] <katakombi> nvidia gfx?
[02:30] <AeSSeD> yes
[02:30] <katakombi> proprietary drivers?
[02:30] <AeSSeD> yep :P
[02:30] <katakombi> forget it, then
[02:31] <katakombi> I tried helluva lot, but nothing would do the job
[02:31] <katakombi> simply remove the splash option in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:31] <squilla> not even ctrl alt plus?
[02:32] <AeSSeD> oh...ok...but I don't understand the difference between kernel image and source in the repository
[02:32] <mrmist> I'm leaving
[02:32] <mrmist> cya :)
[02:32] <katakombi> buy
[02:32] <mrmist> thanks for all the help
[02:33] <katakombi> AeSSeD, that simple: image = binary image, source are the sources to build an image with
[02:33] <Lord_Devi> wow. this is still goin..
[02:33] <katakombi> afaik theres only 2.6.15 in dapper at the time being
[02:34] <Lord_Devi> that reminds me tho kata.. I need to go look up how to config my kernel in kubuntu still..
[02:34] <Lord_Devi> is there a means for using your own kernel? like from kernel.org?
[02:34] <katakombi> simply copy the /boot/configxxxx to /usr/src/linux/.config
[02:34] <katakombi> run make oldconfig, then
[02:35] <rraajj> Is there a way to bypass the "Insert CD step" when installing things through apt-get?
[02:35] <AeSSeD> ok but with kernel included in dapper I see splash screen
[02:35] <katakombi> Lord_Devi, it's difficult. Ubuntu provides patched kernels, the kernel.org imgs are vanilla
[02:35] <defrysk> rraajj, comment the cd referring lines in sources.list
[02:35] <rraajj> defrysk: Will try. Thanks!
[02:36] <Lord_Devi> oh ok.. so really only use ubuntu kernels then.
[02:36] <Lord_Devi> Well what about at the very least, using the source patched kernel to remove all the unwanted stuff?
[02:36] <noel> :)
[02:36] <rraajj> defrysk: Do I still need to do an update?
[02:36] <katakombi> Lord_Devi, kind of depends, but you can get most things working with the stock images
[02:36] <defrysk> rraajj, after commenting update
[02:37] <rraajj> defrysk: Thank you very much!
[02:37] <katakombi> even acpi
[02:37] <AeSSeD> I need use a patched kernel for my tv card :/
[02:37] <Lord_Devi> well for example. i have this onboard soundcard ubuntu is trying to use that i don't want to use..
[02:37] <katakombi> AeSSeD try to apply the patch
[02:37] <Lord_Devi> so if i could remove it from the kernel, it would only bother with my emu10k1.
[02:38] <defrysk> Lord_Devi, turn of the onboard sound in your bios
[02:38] <defrysk> then your card works fine
[02:38] <Lord_Devi> yeah that's the odd thing, it already is
[02:39] <Lord_Devi> i was quite surprised to see that there
[02:39] <Lord_Devi> my onboard network controller is also off, but for some reason is still here..
[02:39] <LeeJunFan> Lord_Devi: make a alias in modprobe.conf for it to /bin/true - it won't insert the module for your unwanted soundcard then.
[02:39] <Lord_Devi> at any rate, that's not the problem. the problem is i can't find a howto on how to manually configure my kernel in ubuntu :(
[02:39] <katakombi> AeSSeD, did you get suspend/resume working?
[02:40] <noel> hi! I just download kopete-0.12.0.tar.bz2 from kopete.kde.org.  cant find .deb thats why I downloaded the source package. my problem is I dont know how to install source package into my Kubuntu 6.06
[02:40] <defrysk> Lord_Devi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560
[02:40] <AeSSeD> katakombi: ????
[02:40] <Lord_Devi> oh thanks
[02:41] <LeeJunFan> Lord_Devi: man modprobe.conf, /install. Actually install is what you want, not alias.
[02:41] <katakombi> noel, aptitude install kdelibs4-dev g++
[02:41] <katakombi> noel: unpack it, run configure&&make&&make install
[02:41] <noel> thats it? :)
[02:42] <Lord_Devi> Lee: Thanks, i'll have a look at that too
[02:42] <noel> katakombi: thats it? :) thanks a lot :)
[02:43] <katakombi> noel: maybe i've forgotten something, i have been recalling it:)
[02:43] <katakombi> AeSSeD: just wanted to know if you have tried it
[02:43] <noel> katakombi: okay heheh
[02:44] <Hobbsee> noel: there's a deb around...
[02:45] <defrysk> noel, I'll send you the .deb link , a sec....
[02:45] <noel> honnsee: the .deb is a beta version... :)
[02:45] <Hobbsee> noel: http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/packages/
[02:45] <defrysk> noel, works fine..
[02:45] <Hobbsee> grab the version of kde thta you use
[02:45] <AeSSeD> katakombi: oh...yes the video card works great but I don't have splash at boot
[02:45] <defrysk> yes thats the one :)
[02:45] <defrysk> hehe
[02:46] <noel> hey guys! thanks so much :)
[02:46] <noel> :)
[02:49] <sjau> hiya, I'm a newby on linux - installed ubuntu yesterday and I would like to know how I can add a "shortcut" to the desktop in this quick-start panel where already the system menu, kontact and konqueror are there
[02:51] <AeSSeD> sjau: drag and drop :)
[02:52] <sjau> AeSSeD: but what can I drag and drop?
[02:53] <sjau> I should would like to ahve a shortcut that takes me to the desktop (minimizing all other apps) :)
[02:54] <defrysk> sjau, add applet > show desktop
[02:54] <defrysk> sjau, rightclick empty spot aon panel to do so
[02:55] <sjau> defrysk: thanks :)
[02:55] <sjau> that was easy
[02:55] <defrysk> ;)
[02:55] <sjau> now I still need to sort out the crossover office problems
[02:55] <sjau> :(
[02:55] <AeSSeD> sjau: use openoffice ;)
[02:56] <sjau> AeSSeD: Problem is EndNote does not integrate directly into OpenOffice and for my master thesis this is a lot of help, furthermore I need to run Lotus Notes and my palm software
[02:57] <sjau> and as far as I know wine can't run this or rather I am not capable of making wine run all of that ^
[02:58] <defrysk> sjau, if you have wine installed make sure to uninstall it before install openoffice
[02:58] <defrysk> crossover that is sorry
[02:58] <sjau> I have not installed wine at all
[02:59] <defrysk> good
[02:59] <sjau> I heard xover can do all of that
[02:59] <sjau> that's why I got myself a 30-day trial
[02:59] <defrysk> crossover can but ist not for free
[02:59] <defrysk> i see
[02:59] <sjau> I was able to install Lotus Notes
[02:59] <defrysk> a .sh file ?
[02:59] <defrysk> ok
[02:59] <sjau> but somehow Notes cannot write to its files
[02:59] <sjau> yes, it's a .sh file for installing
[02:59] <defrysk> missing fonts ?
[03:00] <sjau> nope, it downloaded them
[03:01] <sjau> I get in Notes "Cannot write or create file (file or disk is read-only)"
[03:01] <defrysk> sjau, my advice is go to #crossover and see if they can help you there
[03:01] <defrysk> the channel is on this server
[03:02] <sjau> I am in there but I seem to be the only one that is actively in there ^
[03:02] <sjau> 15min ago I posted something and nothing yet
[03:02] <sjau> not even another request or so...
[03:02] <sjau> after I got that RO message the first time I chmoded to 0777 the whole data folder in notes
[03:02] <sjau> but I still get that ^
[03:03] <defrysk> unfortunately nono seems here to know what to do about it and it also an off topic problem so......
[03:03] <defrysk> noone *
[03:03] <sjau> well, maybe another question, something related to tcp/ip ^^
[03:03] <barros> can I use the rt2570 driver shiped with drapper in WPA2+AES mode?
[03:04] <sjau> In windows for the network settings I was able to add dns-suffixes (extern and unisg.ch), how to do that here?
[03:06] <Lord_Devi> that "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" didn't fix the locked database problem..
[03:06] <Lord_Devi> Is there another way?
[03:08] <bioxz> Hi
[03:08] <defrysk> Lord_Devi, sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[03:09] <defrysk> better : sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:13] <Lord_Devi> Aha that worked
[03:13] <Lord_Devi> Thank you Def =)
[03:13] <defrysk> yw
[03:16] <dj_baggio> sjau: write in terminal: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[03:17] <dj_baggio> there you can add your dns
[03:17] <sjau> but what do I have to add exactely? :(
[03:19] <dj_baggio> your dns...I don't know how dns you are :)
[03:19] <dj_baggio> I could paste my resolv.conf :)
[03:20] <sjau> dj_baggio: in windows I just could add the through the interface following dns suffixes:  extern  and  unisg.ch
[03:20] <sjau> but in the resolv.conf I see only nameservers listed
[03:20] <noaXess> need it some exta package to suspend/standby a notebook?
[03:20] <sjau> so I have no clue how to add those to
[03:21] <noaXess> fresh kubuntu install on asus w1v notebook.. after suspending, it never comes back,, need to hard shutdown it..
[03:21] <katakombi> noaXess, which gfx do you have?
[03:24] <noaXess> katakombi: wait...
[03:24] <noaXess> katakombi: gfx? graficcard?.. sorry..
[03:25] <katakombi> noaXess: yep.
[03:25] <dj_baggio> sjau: write suffixes there. Nameserver is name of your suffixes
[03:25] <noaXess> katakombi: i used the fglrx driver: OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X700 Generic
[03:25] <sjau> dj_baggio: and then no IP adress?
[03:26] <dj_baggio> no
[03:26] <katakombi> fglrx and nvidia-glx have serious problems with suspend/resume
[03:26] <dj_baggio> there are dns adresses :)
[03:26] <noaXess> katakombi: any workaround?
[03:26] <sjau> "extern" is one?
[03:26] <katakombi> there are some workarounds available, you should google or find it in the wiki
[03:26] <dj_baggio> IP address you have here -> /etc/network/interfaces
[03:26] <sjau> ok, put there and saved the file
[03:26] <dj_baggio> or ifconfig ...
[03:26] <dj_baggio> yes
[03:26] <dj_baggio> and restart computer
[03:26] <noaXess> !fglrx
[03:26] <ubotu> from memory, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[03:27] <katakombi> if you use vesamode (boot splash) try to disable this
[03:27] <sjau> then let's do the restart ^^
[03:28] <noaXess> katakombi: in the grub config?.. or systemsettings..
[03:31] <sjau> back again :)
[03:39] <sjau> how can I run a program as root?
[03:40] <katakombi> sjau: command line: sudo <program>
[03:40] <katakombi> kde: run dialog -> run as user: root
[03:40] <sjau> ok ^^ thx
[03:41] <Hobbsee> !kdesu
[03:41] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.
[03:41] <sjau> oh, I just grun gproftpd as root
[03:47] <Melsen> I just did a full system upgrade from my Breezy Badger to Dapper Drake... and now my network doesn't work anymore. In the KDE control Module, the interface is disabled, and when I try to enable it again, it says 'Could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend."
[03:47] <Melsen> Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[03:48] <noaXess> !fglrx
[03:48] <ubotu> from memory, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[03:48] <_willy996r> ciaoi
[03:49] <_willy996r> vpvcpf
[03:49] <Melsen> Anyone??
[03:54] <Lord_Devi> ok so I buggered something up. hehe, I don't know what it was, but now when I enter my login/pw into kdm, it displays the kdm background, and then quits and goes back to an empty login field
[03:54] <Lord_Devi> is there a log i could look at or something to get an idea of what might be goin on?
[03:56] <shocktrooper1> I still suffer from the no sound bug, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/43738, would compiling a kernel solve this issue?
[04:00] <Melsen> Is there any of you 258 people who knows how to re-configure your network settings?
[04:01] <xwolf-> Melsen specifically...?
[04:02] <Melsen> I just did a full system upgrade from my Breezy Badger to Dapper Drake... and now my network doesn't work anymore. In the KDE control Module, the interface is disabled, and when I try to enable it again, it says 'Could not parse the XML output from the network configuration backend."
[04:02] <Melsen> tried removing the interfaces file and restarting the kde network config.. didn't work
[04:02] <Melsen> tried sudo ifup eth0
[04:02] <Melsen> just says network is down
[04:02] <Melsen> cant get it back up again
[04:03] <Melsen> any idea xwolf- ?
[04:03] <xwolf-> i'm not-quite-a-noob-but-close-to, so i can't help you.
[04:03] <Melsen> pretty screwed up since it's my primary work station here at work
[04:04] <Melsen> crap
[04:05] <Melsen> Oh my Im fucked....
[04:05] <robin> !xgl
[04:05] <ubotu> I heard xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[04:06] <Hobbsee> Melsen: wireless or wired?
[04:06] <Hobbsee> !language
[04:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:06] <Melsen> wired
[04:06] <aseigo> Melsen: have you tried with straight ifconfig?
[04:06] <aseigo> e.g. ifconfig eth0 up
[04:06] <aseigo> dhclient eth0
[04:06] <Melsen> dhclient I tried
[04:06] <Melsen> didnt work
[04:06] <Melsen> lemmy try ifconfig
[04:07] <Hobbsee> Melsen: define "didnt work"
[04:08] <Melsen> Hrmm
[04:08] <Melsen> well.. when I did an ifconfig eth0 up
[04:08] <Melsen> I got some permission denied
[04:08] <Melsen> (I did remember sudo)
[04:08] <Melsen> permission denied on a bunch of SIOCSIFADDR stuff
[04:09] <r0xz> Melsen: this is just a guess, but on my motherboard i have two nic's. On dapper my normal nic for internet changed from eth0 to eth1, maybe you have sort of a same situation there(?)
[04:09] <Melsen> and something about permission denied on /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/samba
[04:09] <Hobbsee> ick
[04:10] <Melsen> Then when I tried the dhclient.. I also got permission denied on /etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new
[04:11] <Melsen> It ends with: SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted.. and then
[04:13] <Melsen> and then /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-script: line 33: /etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new: permission denied
[04:13] <Melsen> and after that.. 3 times the same error.. all referring to line 41
[04:13] <Melsen> and then it says
[04:13] <Melsen> chown: cannont access '/etc/resolv.conf... yada yada... no such file or directory
[04:13] <r0xz> weird, i don't even have the /etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new file
[04:13] <cramm> Hi, I burned the drapper dvd of kubuntu for a friend... and now he asks me by e-mail that it has no emacs, gimp or valgrind. I'm browsing the loopmounted .iso image and i see they are in fact included. Does the installation process add the dvd repo to the sources.list so it can be used by Adept etc.?
[04:14] <r0xz> Melsen: are you sure the network you're in should be DHCP and not static?
[04:15] <Melsen> Yes r0xz =)
[04:15] <Melsen> Im the system administrator here :P
[04:15] <Melsen> This all worked fine before I did a full system upgrade
[04:15] <r0xz> ow, i see
[04:16] <Melsen> damn Im screwed
[04:16] <Melsen> sorry.. language again
[04:17] <slow-motion> re
[04:18] <Melsen> brb
[04:18] <racookier> hi
[04:18] <racookier> somebody knows how to configure network interfaces?
[04:19] <racookier> i go to settings -> network, then i change the gateway, and nameservers, but he say that i must enter an alias first
[04:20] <racookier> so when i apply changes the card don't have the changes
[04:20] <robin> sigh, to get the <Super> key (aka windows key working) I have to start every time gnome-control-panel, and click on the keyboard icon, and than close it. :\ there should be another way ?
[04:22] <racookier> robin: this is kubuntu channel, not gnome, but make the changes as sudo, or change the xorg .conf file
[04:22] <elvstone> hrm. i'm installing sun-java5-bin with adept, and the installation has stopped, if i choose "Show Details" i can see that it's a ncurses dialog showing the Sun license agreement, but i can't seem to confirm it in any way..
[04:22] <robin> racookier: I'm using kubuntu
[04:22] <robin> racookier: but I need to change it for use with xgl :)
[04:23] <racookier> enter as root or use gksudo to meke changes
[04:23] <MasterEvilAce> does Konqueror basically do everything Firefox does? it seems to.
[04:23] <MasterEvilAce> firefox also seems a bit slower as far as loading goes
[04:23] <MasterEvilAce> wondering if i should just use konqueror
[04:24] <racookier> how to activate javascript under konqueror??
[04:25] <Hawkwind> !java
[04:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:25] <robin> javascript != java
[04:25] <r0xz> racookier: should be activated by default
[04:25] <robin> !javascript
[04:25] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, robin
[04:25] <Hawkwind> I needed the info, sorry.  Wasn't for him :P
[04:26] <robin> ^^
[04:26] <Hawkwind> That URL is no good
[04:26] <Hawkwind> The one for javascript
[04:28] <racookier> it is activated, it seems that java it's installed, don't work, will review
[04:28] <racookier> how to configure thernet card to acces internet throug common gateway
[04:28] <racookier> how to configure thernet card to acces internet throug common gateway?
[04:29] <shocktrooper1> would compiling my own kernel resolve my no sound issue?
[04:32] <racookier> no one?
[04:32] <racookier> how to configure thernet card to acces internet throug common gateway?
[04:32] <racookier> how to configure Ethernet card to acces internet throug common gateway?
[04:33] <Hobbsee> racookier: dont repeat.
[04:33] <Hobbsee> if no one answers, no one knows
[04:34] <kubuntutaotao> who can give me some about datas of kdevelop3?
[04:34] <jaims> hi
[04:35] <racookier> under linux (without graphical env.) there was an utility (something like net-config) but now i don't find it...
[04:37] <visik7> racookier: edit /etc/network/interfaces and use ifup ifdown
[04:37] <StageZero> I've edited the /etc/network/interfaces to configure default gateway and encryption of my wireless LAN. Now everything works.
[04:37] <StageZero> There is a bug in the configuration tool for Dapper Drake.
[04:38] <racookier> ok will try
[04:38] <robert__> hi to everybody
[04:38] <StageZero> This bug already was within Breezy Badger.
[04:38] <robert__> can somebody please help me about sound in kubuntu?
[04:40] <_ubuntu> I am new at linux
[04:40] <_ubuntu> so any help is appreciated
[04:40] <katakombi> _ubuntu, what sound card do you have?
[04:40] <_ubuntu> sound blaster I think
[04:40] <r0xz> StageZero: please report or confirm it at launchpad
[04:40] <katakombi> sorry, meant robert__
[04:40] <dr_willis> Hmm.. it helps if you know what you got. :P
[04:40] <robert__> tnx, i have a soundblaster live
[04:41] <katakombi> should work fine
[04:41] <katakombi> do you have an onboard sound card also?
[04:41] <dr_willis> you using the digital out for the speakers? or the normal outputs?
[04:41] <_ubuntu> mine is awe64 soundblaster I believe
[04:41] <robert__> yes but is actually turned off in the BIOS
[04:41] <robert__> i mean, the onboard card
[04:42] <katakombi> what is the output of lsmod |grep snd_
[04:42] <robert__> should i paste the output here?
[04:43] <robert__> there are several lines
[04:43] <katakombi> only if its not too much
[04:43] <katakombi> i dont know the limut
[04:43] <katakombi> limit
[04:43] <robert__> let me try
[04:43] <katakombi> wait
[04:43] <robert__> uhm, maybe not
[04:43] <robert__> let me explain u what is the problem
[04:43] <robert__> actually the sound works with amarok
[04:44] <katakombi> oki
[04:44] <robert__> but with vlc doesn't work
[04:44] <robert__> and neither with xmms with arts plugin
[04:44] <katakombi> do you run the apps at the very same time?
[04:44] <robert__> no
[04:45] <katakombi> vlc might have options to select the sound output
[04:46] <katakombi> (oss/alsa/arts/esd...)
[04:46] <katakombi> which one is activated?
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> Hobbsee: is that you...  :-O   wow...
[04:46] <dr_willis> sound working with some tools and not other video players - is a sign of codec issues.
[04:46] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: um?  yes?  i think it's me...
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> Hobbsee:  cool..
[04:47] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: what makes you say that?
[04:47] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:47] <Lord_Devi> if device 'null' is set to 666 in udev permission ruleset, shouldn't the /dev/null file actually be chmodded 666? Is there a way I can make sure udev is doin it's job and loading properly n' stuff?
[04:47] <robert__> katakombi...
[04:48] <robert__> i have alsa selected
[04:48] <_ubuntu> I shall return later...thank you
[04:48] <CaBlGuY> Hobbsee:  just aint seen ya around latley...  I installed K so, now I'm "officialy" allowed in here...
[04:48] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:48] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: yay :)
[04:48] <Hobbsee> i've been here...
[04:48] <CaBlGuY> sure ya have....   U aint gotta lie to me hun....   :p
[04:48] <Hobbsee> :P
[04:49] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: see the logs :P
[04:49] <Hobbsee> just maybe nto talkign so much here today
[04:49] <CaBlGuY> anyway, yea, K is ok I guess.....  and I for sure like 3.5 better than whatever was with breezey..
[04:49] <CaBlGuY> Hobbsee:  ahhh  yes, I see the logs...
[04:50] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:50] <Hobbsee> yeah, it is an improvement
[04:50] <CaBlGuY> ok, goin to eat..  bbl
[04:50] <CaBlGuY> o/
[04:52] <azathor> hola este canal es en espaol??
[04:52] <slow-motion> bbs
[04:53] <robert__> someone can help me with the sound of vlc and mplayer^
[04:53] <robert__> ?
[04:54] <slow-motion> re
[04:57] <noaXess> if i compile the linux-sources with make-kpkg, wehre are the errors logged?
[04:58] <MasterEvilAce> how do I make karamba open specific widgets whenever i open it?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> noaXess: maybe in the directory above the source directory?
[04:59] <noaXess> Hobbsee: in /usr/src ??
[04:59] <noaXess> the sources are in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15
[04:59] <noaXess> you know :)
[05:00] <noaXess> aha.. ;
[05:00] <noaXess> think error log should be in the source directory.. but i don't see anything.. or even a make-kpkg logfile..
[05:02] <racookier> ok eth0 configured... thanks
[05:04] <pekuja> I have a problem with power management. I have enabled ACPI suspend, but pressing the button on my keyboard does nothing. It works fine in Gnome.
[05:05] <pekuja> also, using klaptop_acpi_helper directly works fine
[05:05] <pekuja> but the suspend button does nothing
[05:06] <katakombi> pekuja: you got lucky. my suspend button freezes the system
[05:06] <pekuja> heh
[05:08] <magicbronson> hi, i use a DVD->mpeg-4 encoder called HandBrake (originally available for BeOS) to back up my DVD's on my mac. does anyone know if there's something like this for kubuntu?
[05:10] <dr_willis> ive used dvd::rip to copy dvds over to video files.
[05:10] <dr_willis> and transcode.. and others.
[05:10] <goldenear> magicbronson: you may use matroska for that
[05:12] <magicbronson> goldenear: matroska? i typed it into adept and it didn't list anything. what repo is it in?
[05:13] <goldenear> magicbronson: matroska in not a soft, it's a conatainer... there are some tools under linux to backup DVDs into a matroska .mkv file IIRC
[05:13] <goldenear> you may ask on irc #matroska channel on the irc.corecodec.com server
[05:14] <winbond> i did sofware raid0 and the setup stops at the GRUb installation screen , does anyone know what can couse this?
[05:15] <StageZero> I search for a good software to manage meetings and todo-lists.
[05:15] <dr_willis> using the live cd/livecd installer  winbond ?
[05:15] <StageZero> Something like Microsoft Outlook, but without E-Mail-Client.
[05:16] <StageZero> What can you recommend for this purpose?
[05:16] <dr_willis> 'microsoft outlook' and 'good' :P lol....
[05:17] <dr_willis> theres that firefox thang. :) but ive never used it.
[05:17] <StageZero> Thunderbird?
[05:17] <dr_willis> yea :P heh
[05:18] <StageZero> Thunderbird is just a E-Mail-Client.
[05:18] <winbond> i did sofware raid0 and the setup stops at the GRUb installation screen , does anyone know what can couse this?
[05:18] <DrBair> StageZero: kontact
[05:19] <DrBair> StageZero: or just Korganizer if you only want a calendar
[05:19] <StageZero> Can Thunderbird (my E-Mail-Client) use contact-data from kontact?
[05:19] <pussfeller> probably
[05:19] <pussfeller> but why not use kmal
[05:20] <pussfeller> kmail
[05:20] <pussfeller> its all integrated with kopete too
[05:20] <StageZero> KMail...
[05:20] <pussfeller> kmail isnt that bad
[05:20] <StageZero> I know Thunderbird from Windows and I like it.
[05:20] <dr_willis> kopete - is too close to the name of a  Pepto-bismo   variant. :P
[05:20] <charwood> Quick question: I installed Dapper 6.06 3 days ago.  So far apt-get upgrade has only installed 4 additional packages.  Usually this number is more like 150.  Are updates frozen for a while or is something wrong with my setup?
[05:20] <DrBair> kmail is pretty nice too
[05:20] <dr_willis> charwood,  not seen many updates yet either.
[05:20] <charwood> I love kmail.  I won't use anything but it.
[05:21] <dr_willis> charwood,  it also depends on the # of packages you got installed.
[05:21] <pussfeller> i forward all to gmail now and let firefox handle it
[05:21] <charwood> dr_willis:  I think that even the default install has around 900.  I've added another couple hundred to this.  But usually even the default install will want to update tens if not hundreds.
[05:22] <MasterEvilAce> WOW-- just realized a lame problem. My linux idles at 2-30% CPU.
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> charwood: What is wrong with it just completely not working ?
[05:23] <MasterEvilAce> er 20-30%
[05:23] <charwood> h3sp4wn: Sorry, you mean the fglrx driver?
[05:23] <MasterEvilAce> what's command to list out current processes with current CPU (non-updating)
[05:23] <pussfeller> ps aux?
[05:24] <h3sp4wn> charwood:  * charwood hopes for a fix to fglrx for the mobility 200
[05:24] <MasterEvilAce> ty puss
[05:24] <charwood> Right.  Currently the driver doesn't support onboard memory for my motherboard/graphics combo (a series of HP/Compaq notebooks).  It saddens me greatly.
[05:26] <h3sp4wn> charwood: Have you tried installing the drivers from ati (i.e is the problem specific to ubuntu or a fault with the actual driver)
[05:28] <charwood> h3sp4wn: From what I've read on numerous pages, the current driver (and the last few versions) has affected at least Suse, Gentoo, and Ubuntu so I have sort of assumed that it is affecting everyone.
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> charwood: And any previous versions to that probably don't support xorg 7
[05:30] <goldenear> magicbronson: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21455
[05:30] <charwood> h3sp4wn: That may be the case.  The last time I had it working was before 7 although that was on a slightly different computer.
[05:31] <noaXess> hoe
[05:31] <noaXess> have an make-kpkg error in the newest linux-source: bin natrlich sowiso dabei :) GRINS
[05:32] <noaXess> are there any other information, created by make-kpkg?
[05:35] <noaXess> !jave
[05:35] <ubotu> noaXess: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:35] <noaXess> !java
[05:35] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:36] <magicbronson> goldenear: thanks, reading now
[05:38] <magicbronson> is there a package for this in some repository, or do you have to track it manually through sourceforge?
[05:46] <vhs> alguien habla espaol
[05:48] <jaims> bye
[05:50] <charwood> vhs: Puedo tratar.
[05:54] <imbrandon> !es
[05:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hey, somebody knows how to configure mouses with more than 3 buttons? i have a microsoft intellimouse 3000, with a clickable wheel, 2-axis wheel and a thumb button...
[06:00] <rody-DruAl> I've got a little question, I'm using Kubuntu Live on my Windows XP system, but I can't seem to 'see' my (NTFS) hard drives? Do I need to do something before i can see these?
[06:02] <charwood> rody-DruAl: They should be there by default.  Do you know how they are plugged into the motherboard and partitioned?
[06:02] <charwood> Almost always Windows C: is the "hda1" device.
[06:03] <rody-DruAl> charwood: it is one disk (laptop) partitioned into 3 smaller partitions
[06:03] <rody-DruAl> I can see them now at /media/
[06:03] <rody-DruAl> but when i click on them
[06:03] <rody-DruAl> it says:
[06:03] <rody-DruAl> Could not mount device.  Error was: mount: can't find /dev/hda1  in etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:04] <charwood> rody-DruAl: Let's try it manually for fun then.  Open a konsole (Alt-F2, type "konsole")
[06:05] <rody-DruAl> jep got that
[06:05] <charwood> Then "cd /media" then "ls"
[06:05] <rody-DruAl> only says: sdal
[06:05] <charwood> Ok.  That is probably your SATA C:
[06:06] <charwood> Now "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1"
[06:07] <rody-DruAl> "/dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/sda1 busy"
[06:07] <rody-DruAl> "according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted"
[06:07] <charwood> rody-DruAl: "cd sda1"
[06:07] <charwood> rody-DruAl: "ls" (LS)
[06:07] <charwood> rody-DruAl: Does it show your directories?
[06:08] <rody-DruAl> nope
[06:08] <rody-DruAl> i get in the directory
[06:08] <rody-DruAl> but nothing
[06:08] <rody-DruAl> it's seems empty :S
[06:08] <charwood> rody-DruAl: Tricky.  Try "sudo umount /dev/sda1" and then try remounting it.
[06:09] <rody-DruAl> device is busy zegt ie dan
[06:09] <rody-DruAl> sorry
[06:09] <rody-DruAl> that was dutch :)
[06:09] <rody-DruAl> device is busy it says :)
[06:09] <charwood> rody-DruAl: Yeah, Dutch isn't much my specialty.  (-8
[06:10] <rody-DruAl> i can see the drives in the storage media screen, they point to: hda1 hda5 en hda6
[06:10] <rody-DruAl> not sda
[06:10] <wasp_ems> hello
[06:10] <rody-DruAl> but i can't open them
[06:10] <rody-DruAl> :)
[06:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hey, somebody knows how to configure mouses with more than 3 buttons? i have a microsoft intellimouse 3000, with a clickable wheel, 2-axis wheel and a thumb button...
[06:10] <wasp_ems> i have a problem with xine can someone help me?
[06:11] <rody-DruAl> when it boots, it also says something like: (mount: command not implemented) ... maybe this has something todo with it
[06:11] <wasp_ems>  I have found more than one occurance of 'xine' in your PATH:
[06:11] <charwood> rody-DruAl: You could try "sudo mkdir /media/windows" then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows"
[06:11] <wasp_ems>          /usr/bin/X11/xine
[06:11] <wasp_ems>          /usr/bin/xine
[06:11] <wasp_ems>          You have probably installed xine-ui more than once, or the directory
[06:11] <wasp_ems>          where you have installed xine occurs more than once in your PATH.
[06:11] <wasp_ems>          Technically, this is not really a problem, but it's probably
[06:11] <wasp_ems>          somewhat confusing, as it's not obvious, which xine you're using.
[06:11] <wasp_ems>          You should probably uninstall the copies that you don't use...
[06:11] <wasp_ems>          Further tests assume, you're using /usr/bin/X11/xine
[06:11] <wasp_ems> it tells me i have installed it twice and i get this message
[06:11] <charwood> rody-DruAl: It may be that /dev/sda1 is your CD drive.
[06:12] <kkathman> I am trying to install the static Opera deb, but Im getting a dependency message saying that I need xlib6g and xlibs. I installed xlibs-dev  and libx11-dev but apparently this doesnt seem to help. Is there something else I need to install to get xlib6g and xlibs??
[06:12] <wasp_ems> how can i remove one of them?
[06:13] <kubuntutaotao> i am using kdevelop3,when i compile,show a messege for "aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library".why/
[06:13] <charwood> wasp_ems: as root you can simply delete the link to xine out of /usr/bin/
[06:13] <wasp_ems> so i just find the xine icon and delete it?
[06:13] <rody-DruAl> charwood: that works,
[06:14] <rody-DruAl> it doesn't give an error msg at least :)
[06:14] <charwood> rody-DruAl: Wonderful.
[06:14] <rody-DruAl> but now, how to go further?
[06:14] <sorush20> hi guys is there a kmymoney channel?
[06:14] <charwood> wasp_ems: I doubt that you can delete it without being root.  You will probably need to log into a konsole and "sudo rm /usr/bin/xine"
[06:14] <rody-DruAl> i'm a bit of a noob still ;)
[06:14] <wasp_ems> charwood: ok thanx
[06:14] <charwood> rody-DruAl: There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.  Welcome to Linux.
[06:14] <rody-DruAl> when i try to go into the windows directory it says: "permission denied"
[06:14] <rody-DruAl> charwood: hehe thanx :)
[06:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !mouse
[06:15] <ubotu> it has been said that mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev Installing extra cursor themes can be done easily with gcursor
[06:15] <charwood> rody-DruAl: Well, as you can probably tell I'm not a Kubuntu expert either.   The problem is that we mounted your drive as root and so it defaults to only visible as root.
[06:16] <charwood> rody-DruAl: You should be able to access it by running konqueror as root "kdesu konqueror".
[06:17] <rody-DruAl> charwood: damn you're right.. i do get to the drives now..
[06:17] <rody-DruAl> but i'm not logged in as root i think.. let's try loggging out
[06:18] <rody-DruAl> what is the default root password? do you know that?
[06:18] <charwood> rody-DruAl: It is generally discouraged to use kde as root.  The real solution is to edit your /etc/fstab so that all uses can mount those drives and that it happens automatically.
[06:19] <charwood> rody-DruAl: It's sort of strange how kubuntu does it.  You have to set it yourself.  "sudo passwd root"
[06:19] <rody-DruAl> ahh ok
[06:19] <rody-DruAl> hmm.. now i can't seem to get back to my session because it asks for a password :)
[06:19] <rody-DruAl> hehe let's reboot
[06:20] <charwood> rody-DruAl: Hang on.
[06:20] <charwood> You need to add the following to /etc/fstab: "
[06:20] <charwood>  /dev/hda1       /media/windows        ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:20] <rody-DruAl> just a sec, it's rebooting
[06:20] <rody-DruAl> ok is this possible with a live cd?
[06:21] <charwood> rody-DruAl: I'm pretty sure that once that is in fstab you can mount the drive normally.
[06:21] <rody-DruAl> ok, i'll try that when it booted again
[06:27] <rody-DruAl> charwood i think i can't edit fstab because I run kubuntu from a live cd
[06:36] <rody-DruAl> charwood: it seems to work now, i just type in the line you gave me every time. No problem, it's just a test anyhow!
[06:36] <rody-DruAl> thanks alot!
[06:37] <charwood> rody-DruAl: You are welcome.
[06:39] <newb123> hi guyz! :)
[06:40] <auTONYmous> I got a problem...brand new install of kubuntu dapper
[06:40] <auTONYmous> I installed, ran an update using the default repos, now kdesu is broken
[06:41] <rabby> what is last version of Kubuntu?
[06:41] <newb123> how long will it take to get my cd's?
[06:41] <aseigo> rabby: 6.06, dapper
[06:41] <rabby> thx
[06:41] <newb123> the distro's stores are in the neerthalands if am not wrong rite?
[06:42] <robin> netherlands ?
[06:42] <newb123> netherlands*
[06:42] <robin> Dutch you mean ?
[06:42] <newb123> ya
[06:42] <robin> you can select Dutch yes.
[06:42] <newb123> :( i live there and i think it will take long!
[06:42] <auTONYmous> if anybody can help my kdesu problem : http://pastebin.com/765510
[06:42] <robin> newb123: I live there too, you can download the iso, why you want the cd.
[06:42] <waspious> hello i have a problem...i removed all the xine files from my pc cause i had a problem, i restarted my pc and now i do not seem to have a graphical interface..i am on a black screen where i can log on..what can i do to fix it?
[06:43] <newb123> :0 i have no burner at th emoment pc good pc is gone but my friend can do it for me within 1 hour he has rlly fast inernet
[06:43] <robin> looks you have removed more than only the xine files.
[06:44] <robin> newb123: you have to do something about your english :P
[06:44] <waspious> robin:i dont think so..but what can i do?
[06:44] <waspious> the same thing had happened when i tried to upgrade to dapper\
[06:44] <newb123> sorry i mean i have no cd burner at the moment!
[06:44] <auTONYmous> brb
[06:45] <robin> waspious: well, first thing, how did you remove the xine stuff ?
[06:45] <waspious> from adept\
[06:45] <newb123> hehe robin the master kubunta pro!
[06:45] <robin> waspious: ok, check the /var/log/Xorg*** files
[06:46] <newb123> kabuntu*
[06:46] <robin> waspious: maybe you will find an error message there.
[06:46] <newb123> Kubuntu strange name
[06:46] <auTONYmous> aaah...great. Now I'm getting the kdesu window, with "conversation with su failed"
[06:46] <robin> hmm sounds really something ugly :)
[06:46] <waspious> how do i open the xorg log file?
[06:47] <robin> what did you do :)
[06:47] <newb123> man ik haat dit!
[06:47] <robin> waspious: use cat
[06:47] <robin> waspious: cat <filename>
[06:47] <auTONYmous> robin: nothin. brand new load, one update, default repos
[06:47] <robin> auTONYmous: strange, I have no idea.
[06:48] <robin> I got a question myself. If I run setxkbmap I get a seg fault :\..
[06:49] <waspious> robin it went through allot of pages and then stopped..i cannot view them..anything else i can do?
[06:49] <robin> waspious: sorry use: cat <filename> | less
[06:49] <robin> waspious: than you can scroll it.
[06:49] <waspious> i cannot
[06:50] <robin> error from setxbkmap: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/765525
[06:50] <slow-motion> bye
[06:50] <robin> waspious: with the page up/down and the error keys ?
[06:50] <robin> newb123: what do you hate ?
[06:50] <Search4Lancer> I have no sound from flash movies.... and it sucks
[06:50] <waspious> it does not work
[06:51] <robin> waspious: hmm it should, oh well the error message is (if there is one) at the end.
[06:52] <fentekreel> can some one help me get vnc working?
[06:52] <waspious> well it does not say about an error anywhere...
[06:52] <auTONYmous> hmm...seems someone else has had the same problem with kdesu
[06:53] <auTONYmous> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=5712.0
[06:53] <aro_ron> I need some help installing KDE along side Gnome on my Dpper install. it keeps giving me a long list of errors, and wants to uninstall the gonme desktop before installing KDE. Any solutions?
[06:53] <waspious> the command to start the graphical is what?
[06:54] <fabim> startx
[06:55] <robin> ^^
[06:55] <waspious> i run startx and i got the message unable to start c session --no /home/waspius/ ./xsession etc
[06:56] <robin> brb
[06:57] <fabim> i have a silicon motion  links 3dm in a laptop but i am using an external monitor . i have the silicon package installed , but i can't get a resolution bigger that 640X480
[06:59] <waspious> basically it says i have no session managers,no window managers,and no emulators
[06:59] <robin> waspious: maybe adept has deinstalled a lot more than only xine
[07:00] <waspious> maybe but how can i fix it
[07:00] <robin> waspious: can you re-install kdm and kde-desktop ?
[07:00] <waspious> how?
[07:00] <auTONYmous> weird...all that problem, and a reboot fixed it.
[07:01] <auTONYmous> waspious: are you in Gnome right now?
[07:01] <waspious> no
[07:01] <auTONYmous> CLI?
[07:02] <waspious> feugw
[07:02] <waspious> euxaristw
[07:04] <robin> waspious: apt-get install kdm
[07:04] <fentekreel> is there a apt-get for flash?
[07:04] <auTONYmous> Automatix, FTW!
[07:04] <robin> and apt-get install kde
[07:04] <robin> fentekreel: yes, if you have added the multiverse / universe repositories
[07:05] <robin> !restricted
[07:05] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:05] <TheHighChild> fentekreel you can search the repositories with adept or 'apt-cache search <package>
[07:06] <robin> fentekreel: the package is flashplugin-nonfree
[07:06] <magicbronson> i want to install more ram into this computer. is there a program i can run which will indicate what kind to get and how much more can fit?
[07:07] <TheHighChild> magicbronson no you'll need to check the manufacturer specs
[07:07] <TheHighChild> magicbronson if you know what motherboard you have, I will look it up
[07:08] <magicbronson> TheHighChild: thanks! is there any way to tell what motherboard i have without opening it up?
[07:08] <magicbronson> (this is a computer someone else put together for a family member that i inherited)
[07:08] <TheHighChild> magicbronson: not that I know of. However, if it is a premanufacturrer machine, it should have a make and model. I can look it up from that
[07:08] <TheHighChild> magicbronson oh, my bad
[07:09] <TheHighChild> magicbronson How old is it?
[07:09] <magicbronson> a year tops
[07:10] <magicbronson> it has an AMD Athlon 2400 XP 2400+
[07:10] <magicbronson> but only 256 MB of RAM
[07:10] <magicbronson> and i find Kubuntu sluggish with this little memory
[07:10] <TheHighChild> magicbronson I suggest getting a hold of the guy that assembled it and asking him. Heck, maybe he'll come over and put the RAM in for you
[07:10] <magicbronson> yeah, that's what i'll do, thanks
[07:11] <Leopard> hej. can i do a dist-upgrade from the cdrom ?
[07:11] <thompa> is there some way to change the desktop background on one of the multiple desktops?
[07:12] <gil_> i need help
[07:12] <gil_> where is the file that lists repositories
[07:12] <gil_> i made a mistake and now adept wont start
[07:12] <katakombi> its /etc/apt/sources.lst
[07:12] <gil_> thanks
[07:12] <dutch> /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:13] <TheHighChild> thompa yes, right click on the desktop > configure desktop
[07:14] <TheHighChild> in there, you'llhave a dropdown list asking which dekstop setting you'd like to change
[07:16] <TheHighChild> did that work for you thompa?
[07:16] <TheHighChild> oops, left, my bad
[07:23] <gil_> ok i need some help here with azureus
[07:23] <gil_> anyone
[07:23] <gil_> ?
[07:24] <TheHighChild> gil_ waht is your problem?
[07:24] <gil_> installed azureues...but it wont load up....
[07:24] <gil_> i think it may be a java issue
[07:24] <TheHighChild> What method did you use to install Azureus?
[07:24] <gil_> fro adept
[07:25] <TheHighChild> ok, one sec
[07:26] <defrysk>  gil_ why not try ktorrent
[07:27] <magicbronson> hey, does anyone if there is an equivalent of gmail notifier for kubuntu?
[07:27] <magicbronson> know*
[07:27] <TheHighChild> gil_ do you see azureus in your 'Internet' programs list?
[07:27] <defrysk> magicbronson, there is one in karamba i believe
[07:27] <magicbronson> defrysk: what's karamba?
[07:28] <defrysk> eye candy for kde
[07:28] <magicbronson> defrysk: cool
[07:28] <TheHighChild> kcheckgmail?
[07:28] <defrysk> karamba has a pop3 notifier afaIk
[07:28] <gil_> yes its installed but wont load up....starts loading all devices then disappears
[07:28] <defrysk> so you can use that
[07:28] <magicbronson> TheHighChild: is kcheckgmail a package? i typed "gmail" into adept and found nothing
[07:29] <TheHighChild> ok gil_ open a konsole and type 'azureus' see if you get errors on the startup and what they are
[07:29] <TheHighChild> magicbronson yeah, I just did an apt-cache search and it turned up. I don't use it, just suggested it as an option
[07:29] <TheHighChild> magicbronson perhaps we have a different sources.list you want me to make mine available? no warranty on it though ;)
[07:30] <magicbronson> TheHighChild: that'd be great
[07:30] <gil_> i get a whole bunch of java errors
[07:30] <defrysk> gil_, got sunjava installed ?
[07:30] <jrattner> Anyone know when Amarok 1.4 will be added to the repos?
[07:31] <chavo> jrattner, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[07:31] <chavo> it won't be in dapper main
[07:31] <gil_> how do i install sunjava
[07:31] <gil_> sorry for the ignorance
[07:32] <defrysk> gil_, sunjava in the repos is b0rked so dont use that one it wil lock up apt
[07:32] <defrysk> !java
[07:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:32] <crimsun> defrysk: borked?
[07:32] <jrattner> gil_, take a look at easyubuntu
[07:32] <defrysk> crimsun, jes the sunjavapackage has locked up several apt users
[07:33] <crimsun> defrysk: using $apt or adept?
[07:33] <defrysk> not sure what they used , adept i beleieve
[07:33] <defrysk> they had to sudo dpkg --configure -a to fix the lock and had no java installed
[07:33] <crimsun> good god, 33 bugs already
[07:33] <gil_> ok
[07:34] <gil_> where do i get this java pacakge
[07:34] <dutch> crimsun, :)
[07:34] <defrysk> gil_, you'll have to make one ;)
[07:34] <gil_> no deb
[07:34] <gil_> ?
[07:35] <defrysk> gil_, no you are gonna make the deb
[07:35] <defrysk> isnt that exiting ?
[07:35] <gil_> oh yeah.....joy
[07:35] <defrysk> lol
[07:36] <gil_> the guide here says that multiverse comes with sun package? is that the one that is "borked"
[07:36] <defrysk> multiverse pakage is not working at the moment so dont use it
[07:36] <gil_> ok
[07:37] <gil_> all i want is my azureus to work
[07:37] <defrysk> gil_, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fabecb1554d75cd3116507e4da83335d4e4f8f3e
[07:38] <magicbronson> TheHighChild: if it's less of a pain, you could just tell me what repos you're tracking
[07:38] <defrysk> first download the javapackage as staded in the wiki and make sure to get the .bin , not the rpm.bin
[07:38] <defrysk> stated*
[07:38] <fentekreel> does anyone here have any experience with getting also working on an nforce3 board?
[07:38] <crimsun> fentekreel: did you mean "alsa"?
[07:38] <gil_> ok
[07:38] <TheHighChild> magicbronson sorry, I forgot. Lol, here they are now
[07:38] <TheHighChild> http://milkspank.com/ubuntu/sources.list_THC
[07:38] <gil_> thanks
[07:38] <fentekreel> yeah
[07:39] <fentekreel> that too ;)
[07:39] <fentekreel> heh
[07:39] <gil_> now that i am here...could someone please help me with suspend mode on my toshiba laptop
[07:39] <magicbronson> TheHighChild: thanks!
[07:39] <defrysk> gil_,   JRE 5.0 Update 7
[07:39] <fentekreel> i'm trying to get the spdif working
[07:39] <gil_> yes got it already
[07:39] <defrysk> Linux self-extracting file is the one you want
[07:40] <gil_> i cant for the life of me get this freaking machine to get out of suspend
[07:40] <TheHighChild> gil_ what machine?
[07:41] <defrysk> gil_, before you can download you have to tic the Accept License Agreement button
[07:41] <fentekreel> cuz i'm trying to get amrok working but it wont play out
[07:42] <gil_> i have a toshiba m40x
[07:42] <gil_> i have not been able to get suspend mode to work ok
[07:42] <gil_> actually its totally bunk
[07:42] <defrysk> fentekreel, http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch04s03.html
[07:42] <gil_> it goes into suspend but does not go out
[07:43] <fentekreel> yeah defrysk
[07:44] <defrysk> fentekreel, and set amarok to the xine engine
[07:44] <fentekreel> ok thats done
[07:45] <defrysk> fentekreel, restart amarok and try it
[07:45] <magicbronson> kubuntu is automounting my external usb hard drive at /media/sda. this is working fine, except it doesn't actually become aware of the contents until i click the icon that appears on my desktop (if i cd into /media/sda and ls, nothing appears). will this be fixed if i add it to my fstab?
[07:45] <lwells> how can I upgrade to Dapper??
[07:45] <defrysk> !upgrade
[07:45] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[07:46] <fentekreel> strange amrokplays but it wont play groove salad
[07:46] <defrysk> soma.fm right ?
[07:46] <fentekreel> yeah
[07:46] <defrysk> hmm
[07:46] <fentekreel> i am getting system sounds so i know that works out of the 1/8" jack
[07:46] <defrysk> let me try
[07:47] <gil_> defrysk: give me a hand with this
[07:48] <defrysk> gil_, got the download ?
[07:48] <gil_> got the download and made it executable....now what?
[07:48] <defrysk> fentekreel, doublkick one of the streamlinks
[07:49] <fentekreel> its not associated with anything
[07:49] <fentekreel> the pls file
[07:50] <fentekreel> hmm
[07:51] <fentekreel> i doble clicked and it failed to open but when i open the pls file with amaok there is no sound
[07:51] <defrysk> gil sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common
[07:51] <defrysk> did you not open the .pls with amarok ?
[07:51] <defrysk> gil you got multiverse and universe enabled ?
[07:51] <defrysk> fentekreel, also groove salad seems a bit congested of and on
[07:52] <defrysk> volume is up
[07:52] <defrysk> ?
[07:52] <fentekreel> yea 82%
[07:52] <gil_> yes
[07:52] <defrysk> and it recognized mp3 ?
[07:52] <fentekreel> i dont have any mp3's atm
[07:53] <defrysk> not an unknow format message in amarok I mean ?
[07:53] <fentekreel> all on another hd
[07:53] <fentekreel> oh no
[07:53] <defrysk> then the sound has probs
[07:53] <defrysk> open alsamixer and see if one of the lines is muted
[07:53] <fentekreel> though i get system sounds
[07:54] <defrysk> fentekreel, otherwise turn off arts , that what i usually do anyway
[07:54] <fentekreel> arts?
[07:54] <defrysk> the kde sound server
[07:54] <fentekreel> ahh
[07:54] <defrysk> in kde4 arts wil be gone \o/
[07:54] <gil_> defrysk: i dont have these packages....what repository are they on
[07:55] <lwells> is just changed the source list to upgrade to dapper, is that ok?
[07:55] <defrysk> gil_, what packages ?
[07:55] <fentekreel> arts isn't running
[07:55] <gil_> java-package
[07:55] <defrysk> fentekreel, you need multiverse enabled
[07:55] <cycykewl> Hi
[07:55] <fentekreel> ok
[07:56] <cycykewl> Just little question :) Can I found terminal theme ? and where ?
[07:56] <defrysk> fentekreel do sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and put multiverse behind every universe you see
[07:56] <fentekreel> well according to adept its instaled
[07:56] <magicbronson> anybody here know anything about mounting usb hard drives and perhaps miss my question?
[07:56] <defrysk> ok
[07:57] <fentekreel> ok doing that
[07:57] <defrysk> fentekreel, wait
[07:57] <fentekreel> ok
[07:57] <gil_> i dont have multiuvers
[07:57] <defrysk> go to the folder where you downloaded the package to
[07:57] <defrysk> gil_, then add id as i told you
[07:57] <fentekreel> which package
[07:58] <defrysk> lines ending with universe add multiverse
[07:58] <defrysk> fentekreel, add multiverse first
[07:59] <fentekreel> the where should i add it
[07:59] <defrysk> fentekreel, like so :
[07:59] <defrysk> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[07:59] <defrysk> as an exaple
[07:59] <defrysk> example
[08:00] <lwells> HI
[08:00] <fentekreel> ok, i've not done this before
[08:00] <fentekreel> should i uncomment them
[08:00] <defrysk> fentekreel, and do that with all lines ending with universe
[08:00] <defrysk> no
[08:00] <defrysk> no
[08:00] <lwells> I changed the source list, then I ran Adept to upgrade to Bagger, is this correct??
[08:00] <defrysk> do what i said dont think
[08:00] <fentekreel> ok then there are no lines that are not commented that have universe after them
[08:01] <defrysk> fentekreel, uncomment the universe multiverse lines then
[08:01] <defrysk> and save
[08:02] <lwells> How will I know if I have updated to Dapper?
[08:02] <fentekreel> ok done
[08:02] <defrysk> fentekreel, now sudo apt-get update
[08:02] <fentekreel> ok
[08:02] <defrysk> fentekreel, then sudo apt-get install java-package
[08:03] <lwells> Does this process also update the KDE?
[08:03] <defrysk> lwells, yes
[08:03] <fentekreel> done
[08:03] <lwells> I need to reboot to see the changes?
[08:03] <defrysk> and if you install about 800 packages you are upgrading to dapper
[08:03] <defrysk> lwells, might be kandy
[08:04] <defrysk> handy
[08:04] <lwells> Kandy?
[08:04] <defrysk> nm
[08:04] <blam> hello
[08:04] <lwells> oh ok,lol
[08:04] <fentekreel> i installed with the dapper dvd
[08:04] <blam> can someone help me
[08:04] <defrysk> !help
[08:04] <blam> !help
[08:04] <blam> that not goina help :-P
[08:04] <b0uncer> hi again..
[08:04] <LjL> have got a network problem. every time i boot, no DNS server is configured, and none appears in the KDE Network settings. setting up one makes everything work, but only till next reboot. adding a "nameserver" entry in /etc/network/interfaces didn't help either
[08:04] <defrysk> !anyone
[08:04] <b0uncer> how do I convert wav -> mp3 on Kubuntu 6.06?
[08:04] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[08:04] <defrysk> sorry
[08:05] <b0uncer> can't find lame anywhere
[08:05] <jack12> has somebody experience with the lenovo /IBM thinkpad x60s and the kubuntu 6.06?
[08:05] <defrysk> b0uncer,
[08:05] <b0uncer> defrysk?
[08:05] <blam> i have the new kubuntu it wont install becuase theres some problem with my partitions.  some problem suse and fedora dont a have a problem with.
[08:05] <defrysk> you need multiverse universe
[08:05] <blam> the installer and qtparted crash when scanning my partitions
[08:05] <b0uncer> defrysk, I thought I had them?
[08:05] <fentekreel> ok i got that java sudo finished
[08:06] <defrysk> fentekreel, now go to the folder where you downloaded the package
[08:06] <defrysk> b0uncer, lame is in the repos
[08:06] <defrysk> fentekreel, now fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin
[08:07] <gil_> ok thanks defrysk....i got it done
[08:07] <b0uncer> defrysk, ok, gotta check my config file again...I think I've rewritten it twice today and still doing some typos or something.. :( too much coffee or something
[08:07] <b0uncer> thanks
[08:07] <blam> i cant fdisk either it will say Unable to open /dev/hda
[08:07] <defrysk> gil_, then sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update07_i386.deb
[08:07] <fentekreel> i didnt download anything ...
[08:08] <gil_> did it
[08:08] <defrysk> gil_, now udo update-alternatives --config java
[08:08] <defrysk> and set it to the number corresponding with sunjava
[08:08] <fentekreel> i'm confused now
[08:08] <fentekreel> java is already installed
[08:09] <emefarr> New Kubuntu user, trying to install perl modules, error --> "Can't test w/o successful make".  gcc and make are installed (via apt-get)
[08:09] <defrysk> fentekreel, did you download the sunjava package ?
[08:09] <fentekreel> no
[08:09] <fentekreel> i'm not sure why i need it
[08:09] <defrysk> why not ?
[08:09] <fentekreel> java works fine
[08:09] <defrysk> fentekreel, to install java perhaps ?
[08:09] <defrysk> ok nm
[08:09] <_rabby> test
[08:10] <fentekreel> i'm not sure what java has to do with amarok not playing sound
[08:10] <gil_> how do i do update-alternatives
[08:10] <defrysk> fentekreel, sorry was about gil_
[08:10] <defrysk> got confused
[08:10] <fentekreel> no worries man
[08:10] <defrysk> gil_, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:10] <defrysk> do that
[08:11] <defrysk> and set it to the number corresponding with sunjava
[08:11] <gil_> ok done
[08:11] <defrysk> gil_, that 1
[08:12] <defrysk> thats
[08:12] <defrysk> ok start azureus
[08:13] <defrysk> time to walk the dog
[08:13] <me2win> defrysk: you actually own a dog or was that a pun?
[08:13] <defrysk> me2win, i own a dog
[08:13] <defrysk> not a pun
[08:13] <me2win> defrysk: hehe
[08:13] <defrysk> could be one but no
[08:13] <defrysk> its ALIVE!!!
[08:14] <defrysk> the dog that is
[08:14] <me2win> lol
[08:14] <defrysk> gil_, it works now ?
[08:14] <defrysk> *curious
[08:14] <defrysk> hey we got root
[08:14] <synmoo> Anyone know of a way, be it an application or config tweak, to make use of the extra buttons on my mouse?
[08:14] <jack12> does anybody have the lenovo x60s?
[08:15] <kronoz> can somone help me with installing nvidia drivers (lastest) on kubuntu dapper?
[08:15] <TheHighChild> synmoo what mouse?
[08:15] <synmoo> MS Intellimouse Explorer 2
[08:15] <gil_> need to restart
[08:16] <gil_> one sec
[08:16] <kronoz> before I have tried doing it with the nvidia installer and nvidia-xconfig but that doesn't work causing the system to hang after the bootsplash
[08:16] <synmoo> TheHighChild: has two extra thumb buttons that are traditionally back and forward
[08:16] <TheHighChild> By 'make use' do you want it to go back and forth in firefox or do you want to map them to functions?
[08:16] <kronoz> and the standard/propreity driver choice in kcontrol display module won't work
[08:16] <synmoo> TheHighChild: the ability to map in various ways would be nice, but my primary goal is forward and back in the browser, yes.
[08:17] <TheHighChild> synmoo http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184644
[08:17] <TheHighChild> let me know
[08:18] <kronoz> !nvidia
[08:18] <ubotu> well, nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:18] <synmoo> TheHighChild: Didn't think to look there. I'll check it out right now. Thanks.
[08:19] <TheHighChild> np, I just googled 'intellimouse ubuntu' and it came up
[08:19] <synmoo> TheHighChild: Thanks for doing that as opposed to telling me to google. I appreciate it.
[08:19] <trappist> is there a way to manage what daemons start at boot that *works*?  rcconf, bum, and the think in kcontrol all pretend to work but don't remove rc*.d symlinks.
[08:20] <fentekreel> ugh still not working
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> sysv-rc-conf
[08:20] <TheHighChild> np man. I know how it is.
[08:20] <trappist> s/think/thing/
[08:20] <synmoo> TheHighChild: I've just come to find that many of my questions are easier answered here where as sifting through google can take time.
[08:20] <magicbronson> kubuntu is automounting my external usb hard drive at /media/sda. this is working fine, except it doesn't actually become aware of the contents until i click the icon that appears on my desktop (if i cd into /media/sda and ls, nothing appears). will this be fixed if i add it to my fstab?
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> trappist: sysv-rc-conf does work pretty well
[08:20] <TheHighChild> synmoo I hear that. Google is teh sux a lot these days, IMO. I'm gonna try the link myself for my MX610
[08:21] <TheHighChild> 610*
[08:21] <TheHighChild> 5*
[08:21] <trappist> h3sp4wn: trying now, thanks
[08:21] <TheTourist> anyone know if the Epson CX4700 will work on kubuntu?
[08:21] <noaXess> !java
[08:21] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:23] <RobNyc> anyone here can try somethign for me, in xchat, do view > Tree and see if the colors still works for your channels
[08:23] <MrBallZ> Hi,
[08:23] <fentekreel> do i have to install something to get mp3's working?
[08:23] <exhale> !mp3
[08:23] <RobNyc> !mp3
[08:23] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:23] <Hawkwind> RobNyc: Works here for me though I'm using config files from another distro/system
[08:23] <RobNyc> Hawkwind, thats why
[08:24] <MrBallZ> I want to know the name of the panel or what was it, that lets you quick lanunch upto 9 aplications, its for kde ...
[08:24] <RobNyc> Hawkwind, in kubuntu its the only place it doesnt work for me, it was fine in ubuntu but i've decided to start using kde again
[08:25] <fentekreel> thanks
[08:25] <Hawkwind> RobNyc: Weird.  Haven't heard of that happening before
[08:25] <trappist> h3sp4wn: that's not deleting them either!
[08:25] <Hawkwind> trappist: !!!!!!!!
[08:25] <barros> is bootsplash patch applied to the linux-source package?
[08:25] <Hawkwind> trappist: It's you!
[08:25] <trappist> heya Hawkwind
[08:25] <barros> i dont think so..
[08:25] <Hawkwind> trappist: You're using Kubuntu now ?
[08:25] <trappist> yep
[08:26] <Hawkwind> trappist: Nice.  I've got it on a spare box, about to leave Mandriva permanently and make Kubuntu my main OS :)
[08:27] <mads> uhmm beer
[08:27] <trappist> Hawkwind: good move :)
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> trappist: It does seem to work (i.e my machine doesn't have bluez or any of that stuff running at the moment)
[08:29] <trappist> h3sp4wn: maybe I misunderstand ubuntu's init system, then.  when I turn something like that off, I expect to find its symlink missing from the appropriate /etc/rc*.d dir
[08:29] <MidMark> hi
[08:30] <MidMark> is there a wiki page or something else that explains the differences between: main, restricted, universe and multiverse?
[08:30] <HymnToLife> !sections
[08:30] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[08:30] <HymnToLife> damn, I don't rmeber the factoisd for it
[08:31] <HymnToLife> basically, main and universe are free software
[08:31] <HymnToLife> and restrited/multiverse ar non-free
[08:31] <RobNyc> maybe ill try re-installing not sure
[08:31] <defrysk> MidMark, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositories?highlight=%28repositories%29 (took me ten secs to find)
[08:31] <fentekreel> woo!
[08:31] <fentekreel> i can hear music
[08:32] <HymnToLife> lucky you
[08:32] <trappist> defrysk: and it doesn't answer his question
[08:32] <defrysk> fentekreel, what was the fix ?
[08:32] <fentekreel> the codecs were not installe
[08:32] <fentekreel> as far as i can tell
[08:32] <fentekreel> i've only been using ubuntu for 3 days
[08:32] <fentekreel> so i'm not the brightest
[08:32] <defrysk> oic
[08:32] <MidMark> defrysk: ten secs but it asks to another question...
[08:33] <defrysk> universe = other then gnu
[08:33] <exhale> easyubuntu is kubuntu compitable right?
[08:33] <defrysk> multiverse is patented and stuff
[08:33] <fentekreel> ahh
[08:33] <fentekreel> ok
[08:33] <Hawkwind> exhale: There is an easykubuntu as well
[08:33] <fentekreel> now for net beans ;)
[08:33] <MidMark> restricted?
[08:33] <RobNyc> anyone here can try somethign for me, in xchat, do view > Tree and see if the colors still works for your channels  stats.. like it highlights certain colors when certain things go on ..
[08:34] <imbrandon> exhale: yes
[08:34] <defrysk> restricted yes
[08:34] <kbrooks_> Hawkwind: no, tthats old
[08:34] <defrysk> main is all gnu licenced
[08:34] <MidMark> defrysk: restricted is what?
[08:34] <kbrooks_> defrysk: dont mislead
[08:34] <defrysk> mislead ?
[08:34] <kbrooks_> defrysk: not everything in main is licensed under the GNU GPL
[08:35] <defrysk> kbrooks_, or similar to gnu
[08:35] <Hawkwind> kbrooks_: Ahhh, someone came in here talking about it yesterday.  It had an updated date of just a week or so ago
[08:35] <kbrooks_> defrysk: all of main is licensed under the GNU GPL *or* a compatible license
[08:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !mouse
[08:35] <gil> defrysk: thanks it works now
[08:35] <ubotu> hmm... mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev Installing extra cursor themes can be done easily with gcursor
[08:35] <defrysk> kbrooks_, ok agree
[08:35] <trappist> same with universe
[08:35] <MidMark> also not all in universe in NOT gnu...
[08:35] <gil> azureus
[08:35] <defrysk> gil, good :)
[08:35] <Hawkwind> trappist: So didn't you leave Mandrake for Debian originally ?  What made you switch to *Ubuntu if I might ask ?
[08:35] <defrysk> gil, now start using ktorrent
[08:36] <gil> hahah nice
[08:36] <defrysk> jk
[08:36] <trappist> Hawkwind: I did, and once I figured out what ubuntu was all about, it sounded right up my alley, so I switched
[08:36] <MidMark> for example krusader is gnu, but it's in universe
[08:36] <magicbronson> help! i'm installing sun java and adept is hanging at the step "Preparing installation of sun-java5-bin..." I clicked "show details" and the installer is prompting me to accept the license agreement, but I have no way of hitting OK!
[08:36] <kbrooks_> defrysk: a GNU GPL compatible license complies to the 4 freedoms of Free Software
[08:36] <gil> the only thing is that i cant see the aureus icon on the sys tray
[08:36] <gil> its onyl a blank square
[08:36] <MidMark> magicbronson: known issue, install it manually
[08:36] <kosh> magicbronson: cancel it and install it from the command line
[08:36] <Hawkwind> trappist: Nice.  I'm still a bit nervous about the switch over since I don't know it all that well.  Only been using it on the spare box since June 1st when Dapper went final
[08:36] <magicbronson> oh. ok
[08:37] <kosh> magicbronson: the sun java thing is its own world from everything else
[08:37] <trappist> Hawkwind: I never looked back :)  it's nice
[08:37] <kosh> magicbronson: and it should just not be available
[08:37] <magicbronson> should i just close adept?
[08:37] <kosh> cancel the install then close adept
[08:37] <imbrandon> !sun-java5-jre
[08:37] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre is, like, totally, ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal
[08:37] <niGhTm4r3> hey
[08:37] <niGhTm4r3> i`m trying to install xgl
[08:37] <defrysk> sun-java5-jre has bugs so dont install for now
[08:37] <MidMark> so someone that has true definitions for repositary like: restricted, universe and multiverse?
[08:37] <magicbronson> i see no way to cancel it
[08:38] <Hawkwind> trappist: So when I need help I know who to come running to :)  You helped me so much when I first came to Mandrake, without you, and other too, I would have been lost for sure
[08:38] <defrysk> roll your own java package
[08:38] <kosh> okay just tryin close adept then
[08:38] <imbrandon> defrysk: howso , works fine for most everyone
[08:38] <defrysk> imbrandon, I had more then two ho got a locked apt
[08:38] <imbrandon> defrysk: please dont mislead peple
[08:38] <niGhTm4r3> but when i try doing PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/fdo/lib/pkgconfig ACLOCAL='aclocal -I /opt/fdo/share/aclocal' PATH=/opt/fdo/bin:$PATH util/modular/build.sh -m /home/<username>/cvs/Mesa -D /opt/fdo i get aclocal: configure.ac: 37: macro `AM_CFLAGS' not found in library
[08:38] <trappist> Hawkwind: I'm usually around :)
[08:38] <defrysk> due to sunjava install
[08:38] <winbond> tem temperatures?
 i cant get the grub to install with raid0
[08:38] <imbrandon> defrysk: thats an adept bug not java
[08:38] <defrysk> imbrandon, pardon ?
[08:39] <defrysk> imbrandon, ok sorry
[08:39] <Hawkwind> trappist: One of the first things I tried after install was sudo apt-get install ipkungfu and I was so happy when I saw it say it was going to install :)
[08:39] <defrysk> i only heard peoplle complaining about java tho
[08:39] <magicbronson> kosh: you said "cancel it and install from command line" - can you give me the command? sorry
[08:39] <kosh> my view on sun java is that java is not that bad of a language, I don't want to use it for any reason but it is not horribly bad but that packaging it at this point is a huge mistake until they fix their licenses
[08:39] <imbrandon> defrysk: it is with any click throu lic in adept
[08:39] <defrysk> i see
[08:39] <kosh> magicbronson: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[08:39] <magicbronson> thanks
[08:40] <winbond> can somone help me our with raid?????????
[08:40] <synmoo> winbond: did you use the alt install disk?
[08:40] <MidMark> restricted and multiverse... what is the difference?
[08:40] <imbrandon> MidMark: google is your friend
[08:40] <winbond> whats a alt install disc?
[08:41] <defrysk> winbond, the not livecd
[08:41] <imbrandon> winbond: it is what you will need to install on raid
[08:41] <winbond> yes , its not live
[08:41] <defrysk> old stile install
[08:41] <synmoo> winbond: It's a version of the kubuntu cd that has what you need to install on a raid system
[08:41] <niGhTm4r3> any ideeas on what could be wrong?
[08:41] <winbond> i can setup raid partitions but then when i get to install GRUB it stops
[08:41] <imbrandon> niGhTm4r3: what are you trying to do ?
[08:42] <magicbronson> i get:
[08:42] <magicbronson> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:42] <magicbronson> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:42] <kosh> adept is probably still open then
[08:42] <magicbronson> probably because i closed adept mid-installation
[08:42] <magicbronson> no it's not
[08:42] <defrysk> magicbronson, installing jre ?
[08:42] <synmoo> winbond: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/
[08:42] <kosh> ah
[08:42] <imbrandon> winbond: you need a /boot partition thats not on raid for grub to install and work on /dev/hda
[08:42] <magicbronson> best way to remove lock?
[08:42] <synmoo> winbond: scroll down to Alternate Install CD and get an ISO there that matches your system
[08:42] <magicbronson> defrysk: yes
[08:42] <defrysk> magicbronson, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:42] <kosh> magicbronson: do sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock  and tell me what has that file open
[08:43] <defrysk> magicbronson, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:43] <winbond> ok . so how can i get the raid to work then?
[08:43] <imbrandon> defrysk: omg ,thatr wont fix the lock
[08:43] <magicbronson> dpkg    6337 root    3uW  REG   3,65    0 3680060 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:43] <defrysk> imbrandon, yes it does
[08:43] <kosh> magicbronson: okay sudo kill 6337
[08:43] <magicbronson> done
[08:43] <kosh> magicbronson: and then try the install again
[08:43] <synmoo> winbond: the install will ask you if you are using RAID. tell it so and it will make the necessary config changes.
[08:43] <MidMark> imbrandon: not today!
[08:43] <alfa^^> but when i try doing PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/fdo/lib/pkgconfig ACLOCAL='aclocal -I /opt/fdo/share/aclocal' PATH=/opt/fdo/bin:$PATH util/modular/build.sh -m /home/<username>/cvs/Mesa -D /opt/fdo i get aclocal: configure.ac: 37: macro `AM_CFLAGS' not found in library
[08:43] <magicbronson> should i dpkg --configure like defrysk says?
[08:44] <alfa^^> iam having problems installing xfl
[08:44] <defrysk> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:44] <kosh> magicbronson: you can try that first if you want
[08:44] <magicbronson> what exactly does that do?
[08:44] <defrysk> unlocks the database
[08:44] <kosh> magicbronson: it tells dpkg to try and continue with configuring packages that it only partially worked though
[08:44] <winbond> so i can setup , lets say /boot and /swap as single drive partitions and rais the / and / home and it should work???
[08:44] <magicbronson> oh, ok
[08:44] <kosh> it does not unlock the database at all, it has nothing to do with locks
[08:45] <defrysk> well it fixes the prob
[08:45] <synmoo> winbond: no reason why not
[08:45] <imbrandon> defrysk: I applaud your efforts but please only awnser if you are sure it is correct as to not confuse now people
[08:46] <winbond> ok , good info , maybe ill get through it , thank you
[08:46] <winbond> one more question ,   why wont the x start first time with x850 ati card?
[08:46] <winbond> how can i make it start?
[08:46] <defrysk> imbrandon, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sun-java5/+bug/47273
[08:46] <magicbronson> does sun-java5-bin also install the browser plugin?
[08:47] <synmoo> winbond: not sure. No experience with that.
[08:47] <winbond> ok , thanks a lot
[08:47] <defrysk> imbrandon, got it now ?
[08:47] <imbrandon> defrysk: thats not -jre , also we were speaking of adept , it is a known issue
[08:48] <defrysk> nm
[08:48] <imbrandon> defrysk: yes i got it each and every day i'm in here helping, i've been through this 100 times
[08:48] <imbrandon> and with mornfal the adept developer
[08:50] <defrysk> magicbronson, yes it install also the browerplug-in
[08:52] <dutch> SeanTater, where are you in the tar heel ?
[08:54] <sdolnack> has anyoen gotten Xgl/Compiz to work in Kubuntu?
[08:56] <ubuntu> hello,how can I mount a ntfs device giving normal user read access
[08:56] <guptan> hello,how can I mount a ntfs device giving normal user read access
[08:57] <RobNyc> any of u guys have XGL ?
[08:57] <SeanTater> dutch: Charlotte -- how did you know I was in NC?
[08:58] <LjL> have got a network problem. every time i boot, no DNS server is configured, and none appears in the KDE Network settings. setting up one makes everything work, but only till next reboot. adding a "nameserver" entry in /etc/network/interfaces didn't help either
[08:58] <SeanTater> RobNyc: nope -- try #ubuntu-xgl if it's still there
[08:58] <LjL> is it just me, or the xgl rage has toned down quite a bit and quite quickly?
[08:59] <SeanTater> guptan: add the option "user" (no quotes) to the option area in fstab for the appropriate drive.
[08:59] <SeanTater> guptan: If you pastebin your fstab, I'll edit it for you
[08:59] <magicbronson> defrysk: i've installed the sun-java5-* packages from the command line and restarted firefox, but the java plugin is still not installed
[08:59] <SeanTater> LjL: I never used it in the first place
[09:00] <defrysk> magicbronson, did you restart firefox ?
[09:00] <SeanTater> LjL: I'm waiting until KDE4
[09:00] <trix`G> If I use a standard install of kubuntu with my GeForce 7800GT will I be using inferior drivers because of the "only-free" mindset of the ubuntu distro?
[09:01] <SeanTater> Anybody have any ideas as to how long until KDE4?
[09:01] <defrysk> magicbronson,  sudo update-alternatives --config java set it to /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java (option 1)
[09:01] <LjL> SeanTater: i did give it a try, but i never really thought about *keeping* it for a minute... at least until it's way more mature
[09:01] <chavo> SeanTater, at least 6-8 months for the first previews
[09:01] <SeanTater> trix`G: By default, yes, but I have a NVIDIA and it's fairly simple to add the other driver.
[09:01] <drayen> how do you hiberate a laptop from kbuntu?
[09:02] <guptan> SeanTater: I'm on live kubuntu, i want to write a iso image which is in my NTFS partition
[09:02] <chavo> xgl works perfectly here, in fact it fixes a bug with geforce 6600 cards and anialiasing
[09:02] <SeanTater> !nvidia
[09:02] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:02] <trix`G> SeanTater: By fairly simple do you mean simply download the other driver from nvidia's website? Or is it located somewhere else?
[09:02] <SeanTater> trix`G: just read what ubotu said,
[09:03] <defrysk> magicbronson, got it ?
[09:03] <trix`G> ahh thanks
[09:03] <SeanTater> trix`G: that's how I got it to work
[09:03] <magicbronson> defrysk: the only sun option was option 3: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[09:03] <guptan> SeanTater: is there any method to mount NTFS without restarting, I can do it as sudo but then normal user won't have read permission
[09:04] <defrysk> magicbronson, in your case use nr3 :)
[09:04] <aro-ron> anyone able to give me a hand adding KDE to my Ubuntu install? I am having some rather interesting problems when I try it the normal way
[09:04] <magicbronson> defrysk: that still didn't install the browser plugin
[09:04] <SeanTater> guptan: if you added the user option -- it whould matter who mounted it, excapt that only root has permission to mount
[09:04] <defrysk> magicbronson, i rolled my own si i had a different nr
[09:04] <defrysk> so*
[09:04] <trix`G> is kubuntu a decent distro for someone who mostly plays games (Cedega) and movies/music in all kinds of formats? (meaning, dvd,divx,xvid,mp3,etc)
[09:04] <SeanTater> guptan: you can re-mount it without restarting
[09:04] <magicbronson> defrysk: sorry, what's si and nr?
[09:05] <trix`G> I'm just thinking about switching from mandriva
[09:05] <SeanTater> trix`G: kubuntu does not excel in either
[09:05] <magicbronson> defrysk: oh, si = so, and nr = number?
[09:05] <defrysk> si should be so and nr is number
[09:05] <SeanTater> trix`G: For cedega -- you'll have to ask, it;s not free, so it's not available in apt
[09:05] <magicbronson> defrysk: :0) as for the browser plugin?
[09:06] <defrysk> magicbronson, ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ |grep java
[09:06] <trix`G> SeanTater: Well linux itself doesn't really excel in either, I mean from the viewpoint of switching from other distro's, namely Mandriva
[09:06] <SeanTater> trix`G: For the codecs, (MP3, etc), say !restricted and ubotu will tell you
[09:06] <magicbronson> defrysk: nada
[09:06] <frank__> trix`G: movies music work great if you install the codecs needed. cedega works as well as on other distibutions I think
[09:06] <guptan> SeanTater: can u tell me that /etc/fstab line, so that I can add it and trying mounting drive
[09:06] <trix`G> SeanTater: and as for Cedega I'm already a TransGaming subscriber so that's not a problem
[09:06] <SeanTater> trix`G: if you watch movies in random formats -- you may not gave perfect mileage
[09:06] <Ashex> Anyone familiar with proftpd?
[09:06] <defrysk> magicbronson, then your java is not installed I guess
[09:06] <magicbronson> defrysk: java is installed but the plugin is not
[09:07] <SeanTater> guptan: not without you telling me what's in /etc/fstab (say !pastebin)
[09:07] <frank__> magicbronson: did you install sun-java5-plugin?
[09:07] <defrysk> magicbronson, than we have to make a symbolic link
[09:07] <Ashex> Whever I upload files, it sets the permissions on the files to nobody can execute them and the folders to the owner can't execute them
[09:07] <guptan> !pastebin
[09:07] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[09:07] <magicbronson> defrysk: no, i didn't see it! sorry
[09:07] <defrysk> frank__, that is needed to ?
[09:07] <SeanTater> trix`G: it may still not work - lat's see if ubotu knows anything
[09:07] <SeanTater> !cedega
[09:07] <ubotu> To install cedega please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[09:07] <guptan> SeanTater: I'm running kubuntu Live cd
[09:08] <defrysk> magicbronson, do what frank says
[09:08] <frank__> defrysk: you need it for java to work in firefox
[09:08] <guptan> SeanTater: there is just one line there in /etc/fstab for swap entry
[09:08] <magicbronson> defrysk: just did, that'll fix it :)
[09:08] <SeanTater> guptan: fine -- just open /etc/fstab, and paste the contents into the pastebin -- than give me the link, so I can see it
[09:08] <defrysk> sorry
[09:08] <jpetso> when everything else seems to work but Xorg doesn't display anything (back lights off), can it be a problem that the dapper desktop cd is for i386 and the laptop is an amd64?
[09:09] <defrysk> jpetso, set the driver in xorg.conf to vese
[09:09] <defrysk> vesa that is
[09:09] <SeanTater> trix`G: okay -- these two pages should be all you need to know:
[09:09] <SeanTater> ubotu tell trix`G about restricted
[09:09] <SeanTater> ubotu tell trix`G about cedega
[09:09] <jpetso> defrysk: thx
[09:10] <guptan> SeanTater: thanks, I was just looking for this line: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[09:10] <defrysk> jpetso, there seemt to be a bug with lapops ati and lcd screens in dapper
[09:10] <defrysk> laptops
[09:10] <guptan> SeanTater: and it worked, and thanks again
[09:10] <trix`G> SeanTater: Thanks!
[09:10] <jpetso> yes, it's an ati
[09:10] <defrysk> my typing is getting horrible
[09:10] <dutch> SeanTater, it shows when you log in   :)
[09:10] <defrysk> jpetso, change the driver to vesa
[09:10] <trix`G> sorry for being a newbie and asking stupid questions
[09:10] <defrysk> should do the trick then
[09:10] <jpetso> defrysk: ok
[09:10] <SeanTater> guptan: good! although I have no clue what you did -- but if it works, more power to you!
[09:11] <dutch> SeanTater, and I'm over east of Raleigh
[09:11] <SeanTater> trix`G: Good!
[09:11] <SeanTater> dutch: I've been there once -- it's roads are SOOO simple in comparison to charlotte!
[09:11] <dutch> try driving a truck :)
[09:11] <guptan> SeanTater: i just followed instruction here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[09:12] <SeanTater> guptan: okay -- how about telling ubotu that
[09:12] <SeanTater> !ntfs
[09:12] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[09:12] <SeanTater> !winfstab
[09:12] <ubotu> in fstab it should look **like** this:: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0
[09:12] <SeanTater> ah-ha! next time someone asks me, I'll say !winfstab instead
[09:13] <guptan> SeanTater: oh great, i was wondering how to do it from console without actually changing fstab
[09:13] <XVampireX> WHAT THE FUCK! Microsoft acting up again!
[09:13] <katakombi> isnt there captive support in ubuntu?
[09:13] <XVampireX> http://join.msn.com/spaces/overview
[09:13] <SeanTater> XVampireX: what about it?
[09:14] <XVampireX> See the image?
[09:14] <chavo> katakombi, no it's not in
[09:14] <SeanTater> katakombi: "captive support"?
[09:14] <LjL> with breezy and kde 3.5.2 (and previous), the lines saying "All applications", "Actions" etc under the K menu were displayed in a "flat" style. so was the highlighted item in the taskbar. i think (not sure) this was enabled by an option in Lipstick's configuration, but i can't seem to find a way to make it work as before wih dapper and kde 3.5.3
[09:14] <katakombi> captive - its ntfs rw support
[09:14] <synmoo> the logo
[09:14] <katakombi> using wine and the ntfs win driver
[09:14] <XVampireX> synmoo: Yes...
[09:15] <chavo> katakombi, I've heard it's gotten real good, I'm going to install it in a little while
[09:15] <SeanTater> katakombi: sorry -- never heard of it
[09:15] <chavo> I don't care if it messes up my partition
[09:15] <katakombi> chavo: is it a licensing issue?
[09:15] <synmoo> Loioks remarkably like ubuntu.
[09:15] <XVampireX> synmoo: They stole it
[09:15] <chavo> katakombi, yes and a stability issue I assume
[09:15] <katakombi> i'd really like to have it
[09:15] <SeanTater> XVampireX: okay -- is that anything like crystalsvg?
[09:16] <katakombi> i didnt know its ustable yet
[09:16] <XVampireX> No idea, I don't care, they stole it, I'm gonna hate microsoft now >_<
[09:16] <synmoo> Vampire: Really? Perhaps you've never seen the other hundreds of logos that look similar
[09:16] <chavo> katakombi, I downloaded last night but havent gotten around to installing it yet
[09:16] <trix`G> ubotu, restricted?
[09:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:17] <XVampireX> I'm gonna send them a hate email
[09:17] <SeanTater> XVampireX:Isn't that illegal somewhere?
[09:17] <SeanTater> trix`G: don't pick up my habits -- say /msg ubotu restricted instead
[09:18] <XVampireX> SeanTater: I'll show them illegal
[09:18] <SeanTater> XVampireX: I bet they met millions of hate mails -- yours will be spam --calssified out too most likely
[09:18] <trix`G> SeanTater: Oh, right, sorry
[09:19] <SeanTater> trix`G: that's fine -- I do  it
[09:19] <yonkeltron> if kompare doesn't work, what might i need to install to get that working?
[09:19] <SeanTater> yonkeltron: apt-get -f install
[09:20] <trix`G> SeanTater: problem is I'm using Peekko, so I can't really see msgs and I can't join more then 1 channel at a time
[09:20] <yonkeltron> SeanTater: no dice
[09:20] <SeanTater> trix`G: okay -- then go ahead -- just try not to ask too many at a time
[09:21] <SeanTater> yonkeltron: "dice?"
[09:21] <trix`G> SeanTater: Agreed, just didn't get a chance to copy/paste the link when you said it
[09:21] <ataraxis> hi, knetworkmanager cannot connect to a wep wlan, doing it manually with iwconfig eth2 key s:<KEY> works, any ideas?
[09:22] <SeanTater> trix`G: look -- you don;t have to explain -- I;m not an op and I don't plan to be -- In fact by saying it, I might be considered hypocritical
[09:22] <SeanTater> ataraxis: how often do you change networks?
[09:23] <yonkeltron> SeanTater: it didn't work. there is some kpart that i need. regardless, kompare doesn't depend on it so it's not installed
[09:23] <ataraxis> SeanTater: not often
[09:23] <yonkeltron> SeanTater: it give me an error that it can't fine KompareViewPart
[09:24] <SeanTater> yonkeltron: hum -- can;t seem to do anything -- will diff do?
[09:24] <yonkeltron> SeanTater: i'm using a gnome app called meld for now
[09:24] <yonkeltron> SeanTater: kdiff3 is not as nice
[09:24] <SeanTater> ataraxis: Hum -- well -- never used knetworkmanager -- try asking in #ubuntu
[09:24] <chrome_it> hello
[09:25] <yonkeltron> chrome_it: hi
[09:25] <yonkeltron> chrome_it: any luck?
[09:25] <ataraxis> k, thx
[09:25] <trix`G> SeanTater: I don't have to do many things I do like put out my cig when my recently-quit-smoking friend comes over, but I do it anyway because I am full of this annoying tendancy called manners
[09:25] <yonkeltron> chrome_it: with suspend i mean?
[09:25] <chrome_it> yes, now it works
[09:25] <SeanTater> yonkeltron: okay -- there's nothing wrong with an occasional gtk+ app -- but try asking around occasionally and see if it happens elsewhere
[09:25] <chrome_it> I recompiled the kernel
[09:25] <yonkeltron> SeanTater: if it does, i'll file a bug
[09:25] <yonkeltron> chrome_it: and?
[09:26] <chrome_it> suspend to disk works perfectly
[09:26] <yonkeltron> chrome_it: does it come back up ok?
[09:26] <flo_> where are usualy located the icons that a software installs with a normal deb package?
[09:27] <chrome_it> yonkeltron: I'm using my desktop now, if you want I can send you the .config file
[09:27] <yonkeltron> chrome_it: i noticed the error only seems to happen when x is running
[09:27] <yonkeltron> chrome_it: join #ubuntu-laptop please. the devs want your input
[09:27] <SeanTater> flo_: if they are not in the kmenu, then right click the K, select menu editor, click save, and quit, see if they are there.
[09:27] <chrome_it> yes, a moment
[09:28] <trix`G> Question: If games movies and music are my main interest in linux, is it worth getting the x64 release for my amd64 or would I be better served with the 32-bit version
[09:28] <trappist> trix`G: 32
[09:28] <chrome_it> how to set the size of background image in a kdm theme?
[09:29] <chrome_it> it doesnt fit very well
[09:29] <trappist> trix`G: if you're going to be running wine or playing movies that require w32-codecs, you're going to need a 32bit chroot anyway
[09:29] <trix`G> trappist: Ahh I see, thanks!
[09:29] <trappist> trix`G: I run 64bit but I run cedega, xine, mplayer, etc. from a 32bit chroot
[09:29] <dmb062082> hey is there a net install cd by any chance?
[09:30] <trix`G> does kubuntu support RAID?
[09:30] <noaXess> i got following error if i want run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.. Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:30] <dmb062082> Also I had many problems using kubuntu with xserver-xorg i thought so I gave fedora a wack... and everything seems fine, can I just copy my xserver-xorg config and use that under kubuntu?
[09:30] <chavo> dmb062082, no
[09:31] <trappist> trix`G: yes
[09:31] <noaXess> a last install is broken.. how can i repair that?
[09:31] <defrysk> noaXess, ask imbrandon
[09:31] <trix`G> how about customized kernels?
[09:32] <imbrandon> noaXess make sure you dont have adept or synaptic or other package manager open first
[09:32] <imbrandon> trix`G: ye and yes
[09:32] <imbrandon> err yes and yes
[09:32] <noaXess> imbrandon: all pkg managers are closed.. only konsole..
[09:33] <chrome_it> nobody can give me an advice about the kdm theme background?
[09:33] <trix`G> thanks!
[09:33] <imbrandon> noaXess run "ps ax|grep dpkg"
[09:33] <defrysk> chrome_it, if someone knows (s)he wil answer
[09:34] <chrome_it> defrysk: ok
[09:34] <stoft> Looking for tips: I want to set up an anacronjob to update packages (security-fix/trivial-only) and piping to a file. So far I have a small script that pipes to a log file under /var/log. Does this sound like a good solution or are there any special details I should think about?
[09:34] <noaXess> imbrandon: there is something.. a hanging package..
[09:35] <imbrandon> noaXess then sudo kill -9 <pid number>
[09:36] <imbrandon> noaXess when thats killed run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to finish configuuring what dident install, then try dist-upgrade again
[09:37] <stoft> chrome_it: I set mine "manually" editing the image in an image editor.
[09:37] <noaXess> imbrandon: ok done that.. all ok.. :) thks
[09:37] <imbrandon> np noaXess
[09:38] <xorpha> does anyone know if kubuntu supports knetworkmanager like in SuSE?
[09:38] <imbrandon> xorpha: its not installed by default but you can install it from the repos yes
[09:38] <defrysk> xorpha, it does
[09:39] <xorpha> that is excellent imbrandon - i need it for WPA-PSK support at user level and this has been one of the things stopping me from moving from SuSE to kubuntu
[09:39] <defrysk> xorpha, to check you can always do apt-cache search <package>
[09:39] <xorpha> thanks defrysk - will try that once the i've got this iso burnt
[09:40] <imbrandon> thats if your running kubuntu already, if not check packages.ubuntu.com ;)
[09:40] <defrysk> ow ist not installed yet hehe
[09:40] <noaXess> !flash
[09:40] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:40] <kronoz> does anyone how to add the current gpg key cipherfunk repo?
[09:40] <kronoz> i get a gpg key missing error from apt-get update about cipherfunk.org
[09:41] <defrysk> kronoz, download the gpg key
[09:41] <xorpha> well i installed it about 6 months ago, but went with SuSE - 10.1 has been a bit of a dissapointment so going to try 6.06
[09:41] <imbrandon> kronoz: it should have instructions on cipherfunk.org site
[09:41] <xorpha> i liked kubuntu when i tried it last time, but wpa-psk was difficult to get going
[09:41] <kronoz> defrysk: i downloaded Release.gpg but it would not add
[09:41] <defrysk> sudo apt-key add blah.gpg
[09:41] <imbrandon> xorpha: yea you shouldent run into any problems as long as your card works
[09:42] <xorpha> imbrandon, yeah should be fine as it is intel 2200bg which is well supported in ubuntu and SuSE
[09:43] <xorpha> imbrandon, really looking forward to having a pure KDE distro
[09:43] <defrysk> kronoz, as imbrandon instuctions should be there
[09:43] <defrysk> + said
[09:44] <kronoz> yes i'm looking atm
[09:48] <nekomata> has anyone else here found that kuickshow refuses to install under dapper?
[09:49] <bernier> hi
[09:49] <element4> hi ;)
[09:49] <bernier> i sucessfully installed a .deb package but now, how do I run that program? :P
[09:49] <element4> Which program is it?
[09:49] <defrysk> bernier, what package is it ?
[09:49] <bernier> viosualboyadvance
[09:50] <bernier> visualboyadvance*
[09:50] <defrysk> ?
[09:50] <defrysk> whats that ?
[09:50] <bernier> a game boy emulator
[09:50] <defrysk> ah
[09:50] <synmoo> hahah I thought it was going to be something FAR wrose.
[09:50] <bernier> lol
[09:50] <defrysk> lol
[09:50] <bernier> its for my bro :P
[09:50] <defrysk> synmoo, i wonderd too hehe
[09:51] <element4> LOL
[09:51] <synmoo> I glace out of the corner of my eye and see 'visualboydance'
[09:51] <bernier> so do u guys know? im completely new to linux =/
[09:51] <bernier> loll
[09:51] <defrysk> bernier, key in visual and hit the tab button twice
[09:52] <element4> -->> in the konsol
[09:52] <bernier> haaaa ic :p
[09:52] <defrysk> see anything familiair ?
[09:52] <bernier> wait
[09:52] <defrysk> lol
[09:53] <synmoo> Yeah you have to tell him where to touch the boy.
[09:53] <bernier> Hmm it doesnt do anyting
[09:53] <bernier> there's the terminal icon whioch changes to a bell
[09:53] <bernier> but nothing else :p
[09:53] <defrysk> bernier, now try vis and hit tab twice
[09:54] <bernier> a huge list appeared
[09:54] <synmoo> bernier: one of those is your executable.
[09:54] <defrysk> bernier, hehe
[09:54] <defrysk> visgb or someting probably
[09:55] <synmoo> bernier: but if you run the wrong one, your printer will start spewing NAMBLA propaganda... so choose wisely.
[09:55] <defrysk> visgba
[09:55] <defrysk> lol
[09:55] <bernier> i dunno which one to choose.. there's this at the end but its .deb
[09:55] <bernier> visualboyadvance_1.7.2-4build1_i386.deb
[09:55] <bernier> .Xauthority
[09:55] <bernier> .xsession-errors
[09:55] <bernier> bernier@bernier-desktop:~$ visudo
[09:56] <defrysk> what the command to find out where its installed ?
[09:56] <element4> witch or something
[09:56] <defrysk> anyway , gonna watch some tv dvd
[09:56] <defrysk> bye all
[09:56] <bernier> bye
[09:57] <TheHighChild> synmoo did you get your mouse buttons working? Those settings worked for my MX510
[09:58] <synmoo> TheHighChild: Yes. worked well. However, no side scroll. :-)
[09:58] <TheHighChild> synmoo side scroll?
[09:58] <synmoo> TheHighChild: On this particular mouse, you can tilt the wheel to the left or right to side scroll.
[09:59] <TheHighChild> ahh, I see.
[09:59] <synmoo> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:59] <synmoo> ha I was wondering why that wasn't showing up in the terminall
[09:59] <TheHighChild> lol
[10:00] <synmoo> I'm going to tell it that it's a 9 button and map 8 and 9
[10:00] <dodo|kanotix_> hey guys :)
[10:00] <synmoo> I doubt that will work since windows controlled the side scroll
[10:00] <synmoo> I don't expect firefox to recognize it
[10:01] <dodo|kanotix_> i just downloadede open office for my linux. is it the .deb file, i have to install?
[10:02] <TheHighChild> cd into the directory where you installed it and do a 'dpkg -i packagename.deb'
[10:03] <TheHighChild> I'd suggest downloading it through apt though
[10:03] <fentekreel> wow cedega is a strange animal
[10:03] <_al_> hi
[10:03] <_al_> has anyone problems with dapper's wlan support?
[10:03] <fentekreel> hopefully civ4 is playable when it's done installing
[10:06] <puckman> So everyone running dapper then?
[10:06] <puckman> Looks very nice but re-introduced a bug that I had with 5.10 :(
[10:07] <yonkeltron> does the dapper kernel have inotify in it?
[10:07] <katakombi> _al_ wlassistant sometimes fails. but the network connections is working anyways
[10:07] <_al_> katakombi: I have orinoco/lucent wireless card
[10:08] <puckman> Anyone here have random system lockups?
[10:08] <_al_> when I plugged it in there appeared two wlan interfaces
[10:08] <puckman> Where the whole gui just freezes?
[10:08] <cbo> hello all. does someone know of a krfb replacement? it uses 3.3 protocolol which is almost unusable, Xvnc4 seems not to export current display, i need it to offer remote help
[10:08] <_al_> I didn't get work none of them
[10:08] <cbo> protoco... lol!
[10:08] <_al_> but when I compiled kernel on my own, I get this card to work
[10:09] <_al_> this card uses module orinoco_cs
[10:09] <_al_> and before this card has worked perfectly
[10:09] <uniq> yonkeltron: yes. I and D notify.
[10:09] <_al_> because it's well supported
[10:10] <_al_> I suppose that there is something weird in dapper
[10:10] <_al_> in this situation
[10:10] <yonkeltron> uniq: excellent. how best to setup beagle then?
[10:10] <_al_> maybe in kernel patches?
[10:10] <bleaked> where is the Go menu on konq?
[10:10] <_al_> because compiling new kernel solved problem
[10:11] <beemer> afternoon all
[10:11] <uniq> yonkeltron: no clue, never used beagle. sorry.
[10:11] <_al_> using own kernel, there appeared only one interface
[10:11] <_al_> and using kubuntu dapper's own there were two interfaces
[10:11] <iNiku> _al_: many card drivers do that and it should be okay, *but* /etc/iftab can cause problems
[10:11] <iNiku> _al_: you could try commenting out that card's entry in there
[10:12] <_al_> this card driver hasn't done that before
[10:12] <sireliah> why doesnt kubuntu come with a security update program like ubuntu? do i need to update my operating system through adept manager?
[10:12] <_al_> iNiku: I haven't dapper installed on this laptop anymore
[10:12] <iNiku> _al_: ah, ok then
[10:13] <iNiku> _al_: I had that same problem with my old cisco card
[10:13] <_al_> ok
[10:13] <iNiku> _al_: or, something that resembles your problem
[10:13] <beemer> Hi all.  I'm having some issues with the dapper-security and dapper-updates.  I get a GPG BADSIG error.  I'm not sure where to get the keys for these repsoitories.  Any ideas?
[10:13] <_al_> I'm wondering why this happens only on dapper
[10:14] <_al_> and other kernel resolves problem
[10:14] <sireliah> hello? how do i update kubuntu?
[10:14] <beemer> sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:15] <kronoz> sireliah, when updates are ready an adept updatyer icon will appear in you system tray
[10:15] <kronoz> sireliah, click it and follow it through
[10:16] <sireliah> kronoz what program is in charge of that?
[10:16] <kronoz> sireliah, adept
[10:16] <kronoz> sireliah, there are a few ways to update
[10:17] <sireliah> well how to i just update the security patches through adept
[10:18] <flo_> there is any repo wher i can find this lib. :libQt3Support_debug.so.4 ?
[10:18] <kronoz> sireliah, open adept, kmenu > system > adedpt > enter password > fetch updates > apply
[10:18] <kronoz> sireliah, o kmenu > system > konsole > sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:18] <sireliah> kronoz i know that, but how do i filter to show ONLY the security updates
[10:19] <ad3> anyone else having issues with drake and Intel 945GNT?
[10:19] <ad3> video issues, that is
[10:19] <ad3> my mouse is a large square block, and yes I added Option "sw_cursor" to xorg.conf
[10:19] <sireliah> i just installed this, and its not finding any security updates. is that possible? something must be configured wrongly
[10:19] <kronoz> sireliah, if you haven't enabled any extra repos the only updates will be security
[10:20] <beemer> sireliah, try "sudo apt-get update" from the command line - see if there are any errors when fetching updates from the repositories
[10:20] <kronoz> sireliah, when you install there should be 8 updates, and an adept updater icon in the system tray that will apply them
[10:21] <cbo> hello all. does someone know of a krfb (vncserver) replacement? krfb uses 3.3 protocol which is almost unusable, and Xvnc4 seems not to export current display, i need it to offer remote help
[10:21] <beemer> that's my issue - badsig error trying to fetch updates from the dapper-security repo
[10:22] <uniq> cbo: try rfb? (no clue about protocol versions, but it's an alternative)
[10:22] <sireliah> because when i installed this i was not connected to the internet, all my repos were disabled
[10:22] <sireliah> i turned all the non-universe/multiverse on
[10:22] <ryanakca> grrr! I'm at 99.71% done downloading a copy of kubuntu desktop for my teacher, and then the torrent is marked as "stall" by KTorrent, and has been for the past 12 or so hours
[10:22] <sireliah> however, it still does not find security updates
[10:24] <DaSkreech> puckman: I do
[10:24] <cbo> uniq: i've tried it, it's 3.3 too..
[10:24] <puckman> DaSkreech: random freezes?
[10:25] <DaSkreech> puckman: yeah
[10:25] <DaSkreech> The GUI freezes but the mouse still moves
[10:25] <puckman> DaSkreech: I had the same in 5.10
[10:25] <puckman> and after a few updates it just went away
[10:26] <DaSkreech> puckman: Waht Video Card?
[10:26] <puckman> I can't pin point it, sometimes I can run for a whole 24 hours and other times I have 3 freezes in one hour
[10:26] <puckman> really shitty one that is standard on the IBM X24
[10:26] <puckman> 8mb ati one
[10:27] <DaSkreech> Hmm I'm ATI as well
[10:28] <puckman> I get 1fps with glxgears
[10:28] <h3sp4wn> Ati is ok with the older stuff (just don't use fglrx)
[10:29] <puckman> Weird, I only get this with kubuntu, SUSE and Redhat seem to have the right drivers
[10:29] <koos_> yes, I've read it
[10:29] <h3sp4wn> change the driver "ati" line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to driver "radeon" (backup first incase it doesn't work)
[10:30] <DaSkreech> Yeah me too wish I could wrap my head around it
[10:30] <lwells> This update to Dapper seems to take forever
[10:30] <DaSkreech> Why do I have kompose?
[10:30] <DaSkreech> I never use it :-(
[10:30] <DaSkreech>  It needs to be Accelerated
[10:30] <puckman> lwells: be carefull, the update friend my install, had to do a clean installl after that
[10:30] <lwells> I have been doing this update for like 2 hours now
[10:30] <puckman> long live backups
[10:30] <bachstudies> lwells: I'm doing the same thing right now
[10:30] <puckman> lol
[10:30] <ryanakca> what kind of video card? fglrx works fine here...
[10:31] <puckman> friend /fried
[10:31] <DjDarkman> hy ,I use kubuntu ,but I like to use gnome commander instead of krusader ,but how do I configure the file type assosiations?
[10:31] <lwells> i have done back up already of my files
[10:31] <bachstudies> lwells: lots of setting up.......setting up.......and rebuilding databases
[10:31] <beemer> anyone know how to update the GPG keys for the security and updates repo's?
[10:32] <lwells> I did not want to do a clean installl, cause I wanted to keep everything configured the same way
[10:32] <DaSkreech> lwells: Updating to Dapper?
[10:32] <DaSkreech> ryanakca: I'm not fglrx'ed
[10:32] <ryanakca> lwells: go for a walk.. it'll be a while...
[10:32] <lwells> Yes
[10:32] <DaSkreech> Take the time to read our handy dandy brochure :)
[10:33] <lwells> I walked, did homework, fed the dog, cured cancer already
[10:33] <ryanakca> A long while... don't forget, it has to download every app you have installed, check them, unpack them, install them, update kmenu, update settings... etc, etc, etc
[10:34] <lwells> Becuase they need to be updated for Dapper?
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: Do you ever get lockups on reboot with fglrx ?
[10:34] <ryanakca> yeah...
[10:34] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: haven't... yet
[10:35] <ryanakca> lwells: you ARE using aptitude and not apt to upgrade, right?
[10:35] <lwells> I am using Adept
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: I kept on getting them constantly (probably due to having an nvidia motherboard and ati card) But 2.6.16 fixed it
[10:36] <lwells> shy
[10:36] <lwells> why
[10:36] <ryanakca> :)
[10:36] <ryanakca> because aptitudes keeps logs of your changes... it's... "safer"...
[10:37] <lwells> So changing in Adept is safer then?
[10:37] <katakombi> is ubuntu getting the 2.6.16/17 kernels into the repositories? Sources would be enough as well...
[10:38] <rashkae> How can I start an Expert install from the Kubuntu All install CD (Dapper?),,, GRUB is not working on my system
[10:38] <uniq> katakombi: no, not dapper anyway.
[10:38] <rashkae> The Dapper Help says to type expert at the prompt, but there is no boot: prompt anymore
[10:38] <h3sp4wn> rashkae: us ethe alternative cd
[10:38] <rashkae> I am using the alternative CD
[10:39] <katakombi> uniq: is there a way to apply the very same patches to a vanilla kernel that ubuntu uses? and building the restricted module package?
[10:39] <rashkae> h3sp4wn, I am using the alternative CD, I get the text mode install, but there i sno boot prompt, only a very limited menu.
[10:39] <DaSkreech> is there a recue mode on the menu?
[10:40] <rashkae> DaSkreech, Yes, try that?
[10:40] <DaSkreech> Oh I was just interested
[10:40] <DaSkreech> what are you trying to do?
[10:40] <lwells> I changed the source listing to Dapper and then used Adept to make the updates, this is good or not
[10:41] <h3sp4wn> rashkae: I don't have the alternative cd here but the netboot/mini.iso image has a boot prompt - I just pressed f3 and then server was listed as an option for boot:
[10:41] <rashkae> DaSkreech, I'm trying to install with LILO instead of Grub,, it seems as though grub insalled by Ubuntu doesn't support JFS
[10:41] <DaSkreech> lwells: It's fine
[10:42] <DaSkreech> rashkae: Ah Of course
[10:42] <rashkae> h3sp4wn, If I press f3, it display a help message that gives me all the options, but it doesn't offer a boot prompt.
[10:42] <lwells> Ok, I just worry when doing an update of the OS
[10:42] <Ryoga85> does anyone remember me complaining about a sound problem?
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> rashkae: easiest way would be install grub into a 100mb ext3 or ext2 partition mounted as /boot
[10:42] <DaSkreech> well as I recall (this was with the beta CD) it would tell me that it couldn't use grub and offer lilo
[10:42] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: i think the issue is on first boot you can't get in
[10:43] <rashkae> h3sp4wn, Yeah, a seperate boot partition, bring on 1996!!! (I would really love just to get LILO working, personally)
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> Do you think so I think grub is vastly superior to lilo
[10:43] <DaSkreech> rashkae: I know what I would do but I don't know if that helps you
[10:44] <sorush20> hi guys I'm using kubuntu I wanted to know who I can get back the desktops in my task bar?
[10:44] <rashkae> DaSkreech, Installing Dapper with JFS is deffinatley broken now.
[10:44] <rashkae> DaSkreech, What would you do?
[10:44] <DaSkreech> I'd install like normal then reboot and drop into rescue mode then install lilo
[10:45] <chavo> sorush20, add the desktop preview and pager applet
[10:45] <rashkae> h3sp4wn, Grub has many nice features, I admit, but LILO is still much better in some circumstances.. for example,  systems with SATA and IDE drives, where HD0 will change depending on whether your booting from a SATA drive or the CD-ROM drive
[10:46] <h3sp4wn> I would just install grub and my kernels to the first ide harddrive then root of the sata
[10:46] <rashkae> DaSkreech, Yeah, that would work, PITA extraordinair.... no one knows the secret way to launch the Expert install mode ? or was that depricated (and help files not updated?)
[10:47] <sorush20> chavo: thanks
[10:47] <DaSkreech> rashkae: Gimmie a second to find out
[10:48] <lwells> it looks like it finished how do i know if it worked
[10:48] <h3sp4wn> rashkae: Go into the install normally press escape thn press execute a shell and you get busybox (incidently I busybox in my /boot partition)
[10:48] <DaSkreech> lwells: reboot :)
[10:48] <lwells> k
[10:48] <lwells> and cross my fingers?
[10:48] <DaSkreech> lwells: Hope you have a nother internet enabled device with IRC in case something goes horribly wrong
[10:48] <Ryoga85> I solved my sound problem :)
[10:50] <uniq> katakombi: getting the patches should be easy, applying them to another kernel will probably not go cleanly. But you could try.
[10:52] <h3sp4wn> katakomb: which particular module do you want the patches from if its fglrx you can just apply the highmem.h patch from the ubuntu version and it stops the screen flicker
[10:53] <noaXess> where is the best place to install third party softwaare? /usr/local or /opt??
[10:53] <Wes> Como me conecto con un canal en espaol
[10:53] <DaSkreech> noaXess: check the LSB
[10:54] <DaSkreech> ubotu: tell Wes about es
[10:54] <h3sp4wn> noaXess: If its from source /usr/local usually if its binary /opt (thats what I do anyway)
[10:54] <Ryoga85> Wes: #kubuntu-es
[10:54] <Ryoga85> Wes: type that: /join #kubuntu-es
[10:55] <lwells> ok rebooted, but not sure it is Dapper?
[10:55] <lwells> It shows KDE 3.5 on the desktop, is that the latest version?
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> Iwells : 3.5.3 is the latest I think
[10:56] <Wes> Thanks Ryoga85
[10:57] <lwells> How can I check if I am running dapper now
[10:57] <kronoz> lwells, uname -r, if it say 2.6.15-*** you are probably running dapper
[10:58] <nico8481> hi
[10:58] <uniq> lwells: in konsole 'cat /etc/issue.net' will give you the version.
[10:58] <DaSkreech> rashkae: Try hitting F6 twice
[10:59] <lwells> shows 6.06 LTS
[10:59] <uniq> that's dapper :)
[10:59] <rashkae> DaSkreech, Ok, a sec while I try
[10:59] <lwells> cool it worked
[10:59] <DaSkreech> lwells: lsb_release -a
[11:00] <uniq> cool. window shortcuts. :)
[11:00] <uniq> alt+i now pops up my irc window.
[11:00] <Wes> #kubuntu-es
[11:01] <rashkae> DaSkreech, Allelujah Jaffar, thank you :).. (Help files need updating, but I'll take the small victories)
[11:01] <DaSkreech> rashkae: Wiki it then :)
[11:02] <DaSkreech> rashkae: Glad to help :)
[11:02] <Desh> o_O
[11:04] <Desh> Hello, how can I control my dpi?
[11:04] <Desh> I want to make the dpi 72, not 96.
[11:05] <katakombi> Desh: if you use 'nvidia' theres a xorg.conf option
[11:05] <Desh> No I'm on ati.
[11:05] <Desh> I remember on Breezy I made this file, Xserver I think, and I added something.
[11:05] <katakombi> in that case you must set displaywidth / displaysize in the screen section
[11:06] <katakombi> i cannot recall the exact name of the parameter, but 'man xorg.conf' may help
[11:06] <katakombi> you simply give your display size in millimetres
[11:06] <Desh> Ok, thanks.
[11:09] <uniq> desh: you can force the DPI in KDM config.
[11:10] <Desh> Where is that?
[11:10] <uniq> if i recall corectly.
[11:10] <uniq>  /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[11:10] <Desh> I remember on Breezy, the file Xserver in the home folder, all I did was make it and add some string
[11:10] <Desh> Let me try that
[11:11] <uniq> desh: ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp
[11:11] <Desh> o_O
[11:11] <uniq> desh: add '-dpi something' as in '-dpi 100' for example.
[11:12] <uniq> ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 100
[11:12] <uniq> would do..
[11:12] <uniq> i guess.
[11:12] <tom__> Great
[11:12] <uniq> I have not tested this lately. So I do not know if this works or not. But you could give it a try.
[11:12] <Desh> bash: tcp: command not found
[11:13] <uniq> desh: what are you doing? Edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc with your favourite editor. Go to line 462.
[11:14] <nico8481> anyone using amaroK 1.4 from czessi.net ? do you have a problem with the "now playing: ..." area (in the lower left part of the window) displaying html tags too?
[11:14] <uniq> desh: change: "ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp" to "ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 100" - given you want 100 DPI, change the number if you want something else.
[11:14] <DaSkreech> Is there a Delphi dev toolset in the Ubuntu Repos?
[11:14] <RadiantFire> nico8481: why didn't you use the amarok from the kubuntu repos?
[11:15] <nico8481> RadiantFire: cause it's not 1.4 i think
[11:15] <Desh> Same.
[11:15] <DaSkreech> nico8481: It is
[11:15] <bernier> hi
[11:15] <RadiantFire> nico8481: it is, check the main kubuntu page
[11:15] <RadiantFire> I've had no problems
[11:15] <bernier> how the heck do I save the file i changed with nano in konsole?
[11:15] <RogueJediX> A lil' help. I just installed apt-build and it's asking me what architecture I have
[11:15] <chavo> bernier, alt-x
[11:16] <RogueJediX> Er, CPU architecture, that is
[11:16] <bernier> haaaaa
[11:16] <chavo> ctrl-x sorry
[11:16] <bernier> thats what the ^x stand for
[11:16] <bernier> thanks :P
[11:16] <chavo> ctrl yes
[11:16] <chavo> nico8481, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[11:16] <nico8481> RadiantFire:  ah... dunno then... heared about czessi version in some kubuntu wiki/doc where they said the best option to get amarok up & running with all the plugins and media codecs and everything was to install that version... now what is true...?
[11:16] <nico8481> RadiantFire: gonna try to find the doc again
[11:16] <nico8481> thx chavo
[11:17] <uniq> roguejedix: you can find out with 'arch' in konsole.
[11:18] <RogueJediX> uniq: Thanks, but all I have are options like K6, k6-2, k6-3, opteron, athlon, etc.
[11:18] <DaSkreech> nico8481: Probably true
[11:18] <rashkae> Will compiling a 32-bit Mplayer on AMD64 Ubuntu be a nightmare, or can I get away with just -m32 :)
[11:18] <nico8481> DaSkreech: what do you mean? :)
[11:18] <uniq> rashkae: you probably need to make a 32bit chroot.
[11:18] <rashkae> Ick,,, well, thanks.
[11:19] <RogueJediX> Never mind, I got it
[11:20] <uniq> great :)
[11:20] <nico8481> RadiantFire: ah i remember, the amarok version included in dapper (that i had just installed) wouldn't play mp3 *nor ogg's* whatever plugins/codecs i installed
[11:20] <RogueJediX> Now I'm wondering why it's downloading stuff like libc6-dev-amd64, when my processor is 32-bit
[11:20] <RadiantFire> nico8481: it plays ogg by default
[11:20] <RadiantFire> you just have to intall libxine-extracodecs
[11:20] <nico8481> RadiantFire: yup, but it didn't
[11:21] <RadiantFire> thats wierd
[11:21] <desarrollo02> hi wes
[11:21] <nico8481> damn, where did i find that doc again?
[11:22] <uniq> nico8481: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10 - that's for breezy, but i don't think the package names have changed.
[11:22] <desarrollo02> wes is  a guy gay
[11:22] <uniq> nico8481: if libxine-extracodecs doesn't do it you probably need libmad0
[11:22] <uniq> nico8481: and nevermind that url i pasted, the packagenames have changed.
[11:23] <Rafa> how can i do to configure my pen drive?
[11:23] <Rafa> please help me
[11:23] <Rafa> im using ubuntu 5.10
[11:25] <Rafa> anybody can help me?
[11:25] <_henry> Help, I'm having trouble with a new install of 6.06 recognizing my floppy drive and a usb flash drive
[11:25] <Wes> jajajaja
[11:27] <Wes> Mi pana configuras la carpeta ftab
[11:27] <Rafa> excuse me. I dont speak spanish wes
[11:27] <DaSkreech> nico8481: easiest way to get it installed with everything
[11:27] <uniq> wes: english please :)
[11:27] <r0xz> anyone happen to know a good and EASY (my parents...) CMS like "hippo" but then installable with shell access?
[11:27] <nico8481> DaSkreech: so you know that repos? do you use it?
[11:27] <r0xz> *without
[11:28] <Wes> My friend configure the ftab folder
[11:28] <Rafa> thank you man!
[11:28] <Rafa> now. How the fuck can i do that
[11:28] <Wes> in /etc/
[11:29] <Wes> your welcom
[11:29] <uniq> rafa: please don't use that kind of language here, what is your problem?
[11:29] <uniq> wes: /etc/fstab file, yes. and what is the problem?
[11:29] <Rafa> it is not your bussiness man, i am talking to my friend
[11:30] <Rafa> are you shy?
[11:30] <Rafa> or dont you have anything to do?
[11:30] <Rafa> good bye man
[11:31] <Rafa> please Uniq , say hi to your mother
[11:31] <uniq> rafa: i'm just telling you that we don't like that kind of language in here.
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> Rafa: Rafa man I have something that may be good for you man - man fstab
[11:31] <RogueJediX> pwnage :P
[11:31] <_henry> Is there anyone here who can help... I'm having trouble getting 6.06 to recognize a floppy and also a usb flash drive
[11:32] <__mikem> HEy, whats the name of that package that makes gtk apps conform more to kdes graphic scheme?
[11:32] <Riddell> _henry: floppy is a known problem, you probably have to mount it on the command line
[11:32] <uniq> __mikem: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[11:32] <__mikem> ok thanks
[11:33] <__mikem> uniq that package is already installed, but firefox still looks like crap under kde
[11:34] <RogueJediX> What's apt-build's problem? It keeps wanting to compile apps for 64 bit processors
[11:35] <RogueJediX> And I told it I have a 32 bit one
[11:35] <uniq> __mikem: hmm.. did you check the settings in system settings - appearance - gtk styles and fonts ?
[11:35] <__mikem> hold on
[11:35] <uniq> roguejedix: are you sure you made the right choices during install?
[11:36] <bachstudies> kbrooks_: Did you ever put my story on your blog? I don't seem to be able to access your site
[11:36] <uniq> roguejedix: you can re-configure it with the command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow apt-build" in konsole.
[11:36] <RogueJediX> uniq: Cool. What does "-plow" do?
[11:37] <__mikem> "Use my KDE style in GTK applications" is selected
[11:37] <uniq> roguejedix: sets the priority of questions asked to 'low'. That means you'll get most (if not all) questions regarding pacakge configuration again.
[11:37] <kbrooks_> bachstudies: i did
[11:37] <_henry> Thanks Riddell, but I'm a bit of newbie.... can you help me out with the command line??
[11:37] <RogueJediX> uniq: Oh, okay. Thanks
[11:38] <kbrooks_> bachstudies: dont pm me please
[11:38] <kbrooks_> bachstudies: yes my site is down
[11:38] <uniq> __mikem: hum..then i don't know, my firefox looks ugly too. haven't tried to make it look better..i use konqueror only.
[11:38] <bachstudies> kbrooks_: sorry....
[11:39] <kbrooks_> bachstudies: WTF
[11:39] <TheHighChild> Anyone know if Korganizer works with Google Calendar?
[11:39] <nico8481> RadiantFire: found the doc: (http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06) someone from #amaroK pointed it to me with the comment "dapper comes with music playing broken" after i mentionned the fact that i couldn't even play ogg files with amaroK
[11:39] <bachstudies> kbrooks_: ????
[11:39] <RogueJediX> uniq: I officially hate its guts. Whatever CPU arch. I select, it keeps wanting to download 64-bit compiler packages and then adding -m64 flags during compile
[11:39] <kbrooks_> bachstudies: its set to my computer! (the DNS)
[11:39] <bachstudies> kbrooks_: ahhhhhh
[11:39] <kbrooks_> bachstudies: i dont remember resetting it
[11:39] <Riddell> _henry: sudo mkdir /media/floppy; sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[11:40] <kbrooks_> bachstudies: but i will get the IP as soon  as i can
[11:40] <uniq> roguejedix: sounds strange.
[11:40] <kbrooks_> bachstudies: my website is hosted on a webhost
[11:40] <__mikem> funny, now firefox looks fine, and I didn't change a thing
[11:40] <bachstudies> kbrooks_: I understand....no worries....hope you get it back soon!
[11:41] <kbrooks_> bachstudies: so this is why i cant get new e-mail. hmmm.
[11:41] <RogueJediX> uniq: I'm trying to recompile alsa, since I can't think of any other way to get my sound back
[11:41] <kbrooks_> well, i need to memoserv Aria now
[11:42] <DaSkreech> nico8481: Yes I did last night :)
[11:42] <_henry> Ok Riddell I tried that and it comes back with "you must specifiy file system type"
[11:42] <nico8481> DaSkreech: so do you have the same problem in the "playing:" area?
[11:42] <kbrooks_> bachstudies: ... or do I? i think i still have those logs
[11:43] <kbrooks_> hmm
[11:43] <kbrooks_> no logs for him
[11:43] <Riddell> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[11:43] <Riddell> _henry: ^^
[11:43] <DaSkreech> nico8481: Not really I just used two packages from it and used everythign else from kubuntu.org
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> RogueJediX: Are you using a custom kernel if you are using the stock kernel you should not have to recompile alsa
[11:44] <gil> what do i need to play XVID files in VLC....any plugin?
[11:44] <uniq> roguejedix: you can do that without optimization with apt-build. I would actually not recommend using it. install 'devscripts' and use something like: 'mkdir alsa; apt-get source packagename;apt-get build-dep packagename ' then 'cd alsa' and run 'debuild -us -uc' should do it.
[11:44] <RogueJediX> h3sp4wn: It's a stock one.
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> Whats broken about it ?
[11:45] <RogueJediX> uniq: Noted, thanks. Will try it now
[11:45] <nico8481> DaSkreech: but didn't adept automatically detect and update the amaroK (among others) packages the last time you did an update?
[11:45] <DaSkreech> nico8481: No
[11:45] <uniq> riddell: is floppy missing from fstab by default?
[11:45] <DaSkreech> same version
[11:45] <__mikem> brb
[11:45] <nico8481> DaSkreech: strange... it did it here... :-/
[11:46] <nico8481> DaSkreech: i just installed the 2 packages too, and then adept showed up with "new updates found", i installed them and among them was the czessi version of amaroK 1.4 :-/
[11:47] <_henry> Riddell THANK YOU, now any chance you could help with the usb drive??  It would be much appreciated
[11:47] <nico8481> DaSkreech: did you remove the czessi repos from your sources.list in the meantime?
[11:47] <DaSkreech> nico8481: Well I expected it to so I did remove them when I didn't need them
[11:47] <nico8481> hmm wise man :)
[11:48] <Riddell> uniq: seems to be
[11:48] <Riddell> _henry: usb drive should just work in KDE
[11:48] <nico8481> maybe i should remove it too and re-run an update (and hope that it will get me the kubuntu version although the same version <although the czessi one> is already installed...)
[11:49] <RogueJediX> uniq: It did it again. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/766204
[11:49] <DaSkreech> nico8481: use the Kubunu repos from teh site
[11:49] <RogueJediX> Where the hell did it get the idea I'm using a 64-bit processor?
[11:49] <uniq> roguejedix: huh.. are you sure you're not on 64bit? :)
[11:50] <uniq> roguejedix: cat /proc/cpuinfo :)
[11:50] <RogueJediX> uniq: Not unless my Duron suddenly got an upgrade
[11:50] <_henry> Riddell: it tells me  "mount point media/sdb1 does not exist
[11:50] <uniq> roguejedix: heh.. write down the package names and let apt install them.
[11:51] <RogueJediX> uniq: Here's the output. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/766209
[11:51] <uniq> roguejedix: that way you can remove them if you want to later. I don't think they'll make problems It's probably for crosscompiling.
[11:51] <RogueJediX> uniq: Okie then. Just as long as I don't end up with 64bit packages
[11:52] <nico8481> how can i see what packages have been installed from a particular repository ?
[11:52] <Riddell> _henry: sudo mkdir /media/sdb1
[11:52] <Riddell> _henry: how are you mounting it?
[11:53] <uniq> roguejedix: you don't, apt-get does not support more than one arch per install. so if you install i386 you have i386.
[11:54] <_henry> Riddell:  just plugging it in... it attempts to mount and then comes back with that message
[11:54] <uniq> well, i have to go to bed. nite ppl.
[11:55] <_henry> Riddell:  That did it... mkdir....   Thank you very much.... ok back to experimenting.. see what I can screw up next.
[11:55] <RogueJediX> uniq: Night night. And thanks for helpong out
[11:56] <RogueJediX> *helping
[11:56] <xst> Is it correct that the only thing I have to do in order to upgrade from breezy to dapper is 1) replace "breezy" with "dapper" in sources.list and 2) make a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[11:57] <uniq> roguejedix: no problem. happy to help :)
[11:57] <uniq> xst: yes.
[11:57] <xst> nice
[11:58] <uniq> now, i'll go to bed. nite.
[11:58] <xst> And this upgrade is generally recommended?
[11:58] <tyfon_> xst: you need to reboot for new kernel to run
[11:58] <tyfon_> after the upgrade
[11:58] <xst> (I've asked this a couple of times here, but I really wan't to make sure it is somewhat stable)
[11:59] <TheHighChild> Does anyone know if you can integrate KDE's RSS reader into Firefox or the Sage plugin for ff?
[11:59] <TheHighChild> !upgrade
[11:59] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[12:00] <nixternal> hmmm...gksudo ey...don't listen to that Kubuntu users ;)
[12:01] <claydoh> whats with all the G stuff anyway, K is a waay Kooler letter anyhoo....:)
[12:02] <nixternal> G if your ganstah i guess ;)