[04:57] fabbione: hey.. hopefully your day off was unproductive. :) [06:56] morning [06:56] oh yeah indeed [07:03] excellent [07:04] though I'm gonna disrupt that trend for a sec.. I kinda quit doing parallel builds on that t2000. I don't suppose you and/or dave have a potential fix for that boot cpu issue, eh? [07:05] the only issue I hit during those builds was the file-max thing. As long as I kept the parallelism low enough (800ish I think it was) it'd run for days. [07:05] no that's the next in the queue [07:05] i am testing the T1000 fix right now === braddr nods. === braddr is expecting the send it now or let us charge you for it email any day now, sadly. [07:06] i wonder.. can you slam /proc/cpuinfo somewhere? [07:06] yeah i know :( [07:06] oh, sure... just a sec [07:07] http://www.puremagic.com/~braddr/t2000/cpuinfo.txt [07:09] thanks [07:10] humpf [07:10] the cpu are all in sequence [07:11] yeah.. nothing stood out to me as odd [07:43] i have a kenrel to test [07:43] it has some fixes that might affect your problem too [07:46] can test at your whim [07:51] braddr: cool.. i am uploading the image right now [07:54] http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/braddr/boot-sparc64.img [07:55] go and destroy :) [07:58] ok, I'm assuming that's a tftp boot image.. grabbing... [08:02] yeps [08:12] booting now.. fingers crossed. [08:13] Starting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd. [08:13] [ 2.178602] SUN4V-DTLB: Error at TPC[41c400] , tl -1034272768 [08:13] [ 2.357181] SUN4V-DTLB: vaddr[ffffffffffff0000] ctx[0] pte[800007ffffff0743] error[2] [08:14] Linux version 2.6.15-23-sparc64 (fabbione@sunfire) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 Wed Jun 7 07:14:47 CEST 2006 [08:14] braddr: ok.. it was worth a try [08:14] thanks [08:14] yup, sorry it didn't work. [08:14] need a bigger hammer [08:15] yeps === braddr powers off the box for the first time in many weeks [08:27] eheh [08:27] nice and quite.. [08:29] quieter.. there's 3 other rackmounted boxes and 3 towers all in the same room [08:32] eheh === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-ports === tmarble [n=tmarble@192.18.101.5] has joined #ubuntu-ports [05:15] hey tmarble [05:17] fabbione: hello! did you get some good rest? [05:18] tmarble: yeps.. [05:18] tmarble: do you think you can ask something for me to the Niagara people? [05:18] i'm working on UbuntuSPARC today [05:18] absolutely [05:18] i noticed this during the POST: [05:18] 0:0> $somepost message [05:19] and on another machine [05:19] 1:0> $somepost message [05:19] notice the diff at the beginning [05:19] 0 and 1 [05:19] if you do poweron and console at sc> [05:19] you get too see the post [05:19] what is the difference between 0:0 and 1:0 ? [05:19] is it the booting core? [05:20] is one machine a T2000 and the other a T1000? [05:20] because once you get to OBP, you always see {0} ok [05:20] they are both t2000 [05:20] 1:0 -> 4 cores [05:20] hrm... dunno... I'll check [05:20] 0:0 -> all the others [05:20] it might be a coincidence [05:20] it might be a case... [05:20] i am curious to understand the meaning of the diff [05:20] same OBP version (4.19..)( [05:21] i'll ask [05:21] thanks a lot [05:26] fabbione: in chatting with doko yesterday I was under the impression that gcc-4.1 was in dapper (but I can't find it now..) [05:26] should I wait for edgy (to do gcc-4.1)? [05:26] tmarble: apt-get install gcj-4.1 ;) [05:26] i was told today the exact same thing [05:27] tmarble: i also checked that HUGETLB thingy, you were right.. it's going to be enabled in the next kernel release [05:27] great... as far as that goes I have an idea on how to check for similar things before you respin [05:28] I'll check my favorite config files and do a diff against the dapper config and then eval which (missing) things might be nice [05:28] what's your policy on kernel updates -- can that happen in dapper or must it wait for edgy? [05:28] FWIW you are going to want HUGETLB on i586 and amd64 platforms as well [05:29] they are enabled afaik === tmarble haven't checked (sorry for the noise) [05:30] if they are not... i don't really care ;) [05:30] x86* is junk anyway [05:31] yeah, but a fair number of folks use them ;-) [05:32] oh so do i.. they keep my feet and coffee warm :) [05:33] my coworker Dave Dagastine had a great blog yesterday (I was going to blog about, but ran out of time....) [05:33] url? [05:33] if only the t2000 was not this noisy i would have turned it into my workstation [05:33] with 3xPCI-E gfx's [05:34] http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/dagastine?entry=sun_java_se_and_sun [05:34] It was picked up by JavaLobby: http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t73547.html [05:35] eheheh [05:35] I'll as the Niagara2 guys to work on the fans ;-) [05:35] s/as/ask [05:36] eeheh [05:36] but i am really serious.. i was considering doing it [05:36] for a 6 head workstation [05:36] (now x64_64) [05:36] with Xinerama? [05:37] try to imagine a machine like that with 32 CPU and 32GB of RAM for development ;) [05:37] yeah i am using xinerama [05:37] http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/office/ [05:37] this is still at 3 heads + some extra monitors [05:37] listen, I think it would be neat, but (and this is not a criticism of you) ... I don't think you can type fast enough to make the T2000 sweat! [05:38] ahahha [05:38] no, but i can make it sweat when building/debugging ;) [05:38] daily archive rebuild? [05:39] ajmitch: hmmm with 32 CPU that would take about... [05:39] 28 hours probably [05:39] but yeah.. it's doable [05:39] it takes 36 hours with 24 cpu [05:39] so make your math [05:39] umm, wow, I think you are going to need some flat panel screens! [05:40] tmarble: are you going to ship me some? ;) [05:40] i really need some more sparc/desktop gear [05:40] well, it turns out I'm trying to get a SunBlade 2500 to pretend to work with UbuntuSPARC at the moment [05:41] yeah but i am really looking to something i can test on a daily base [05:41] vnc doesn't cover all i need to test [05:44] sooner or later i will have to go and kiss some feet at SUN dk i guess [05:44] they already hate me for other reasons... ;) [05:45] hmmm not sure I know anyone in the dk office.... [05:45] nah it'so [05:45] it's ok [05:45] don't even mention my name to them ;) [05:46] nothing personal with them, but they did get lost in paper work when i was trying to get them to install a used e10k i bought for my ex company [05:46] so i just installed myself [05:46] well, I'm guessing you got some of your toys from them ;-) [05:46] not really.. i used to buy them used [05:47] anysystem.com ;) [05:47] oh and i also got linux runnning on the e10k [05:47] I see... I understand now.... (the whole used/grey market thing makes certain people go nonlinear) [05:47] at that time it was really a massive operation.. but it was working fine ;) [05:48] yeah i know.. but the company was too small to buy new metal [05:48] so we were buying support [05:48] that's pretty amazing... the e10k is actually one of the nicest SPARC architectures we've had [05:48] getting the crossbar to behave in linux must have been, umm, interesting [05:48] my secret dream is to play with the e25k [05:48] and get one at home (together with a mini nuclear power plant) [05:48] hehe [05:49] http://people.debian.org/~fabbione/e10k/debian_on_e10k.txt [05:49] i still have the "how i did it" [05:50] wow [05:51] i am pretty sure as of today most of the SMP issues are gone [05:51] but i don't have access to it anylonger [05:51] and i am not in a very good mood to travel 200km to play with it ;) [05:54] the niagara stuff is in many ways more apropos now [05:54] yeah [05:54] i agree [05:54] do you have any idea how much space is required to mirror all components of dapper? [05:55] it depends what you want to mirror [05:55] I've got lots of machines to install and I'm only getting 152 KB/s from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com [05:55] in terms of arches and sources [05:55] ask John Jonson or Greg Onufer [05:55] i386 amd64 sparc [05:55] afaik they have a local mirror inside sun [05:56] ah... ok [05:56] 195.22.207.161:/srv/mirrors/ubuntu [05:56] 168G 147G 13G 93% /mirrors/ubuntu [05:56] this is *everything* [05:56] 6 arches [05:56] + sources [05:56] for all releases [05:56] (including warty that should disappear soon) [05:56] so maybe 50 GB for dapper? [05:57] probably.. [05:57] i am not even sure there is a mirror script to grab only one release [07:02] braddr: ping? [07:45] ping === braddr reads a bit of scrollback.. why bother with the t2000 as a desktop box.. get a cheap x86 with multi-heads and run everything over xterms / remote x [08:42] braddr: hey dude... [08:43] how complex would it be for you to arrange access to your t2k for me? let say i need alom access and be able to slam a boot.img on the tftp server? [08:45] braddr: take your time to figure it out and send me an email in case... [09:06] fabbione: I have an answer for you [09:07] This is a convention in POST to designate the core and strand (thread). [09:07] Niagara 1 has 8 cores with 4 strands (threads) each. [09:07] core:strand (thread) [09:07] 0:0 [09:07] 0:1 [09:07] 0:2 [09:07] 0:3 [09:07] 1:0 [09:07] 1:1 [09:07] etc.