[02:46] <nictuku> We need a mailing list for nwu, where do you guys think I can host it?
[03:09] <lionelp> hi nictuku
[03:09] <nictuku> hi lionelp
[03:09] <lionelp> Why not trying to do nwu a sourceforge project and get a ML from sourceforge ?
[03:10] <lionelp> It is for developement or for users your ML ?
[03:10] <nictuku> nevermind, I'm hosting it in a personal machine
[03:10] <nictuku> I mean, a paid hosting
[03:12] <nictuku> tenta via jabber
[03:12] <nictuku> oops
[04:15] <Vaske_Car> I can not install PhPMyAdmin by using sudo aptitude install phpmyadmin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15230
[04:16] <ajmitch> enable universe
[04:30] <gpd> what does it take for a package to be promoted to main?
[04:30] <ajmitch> a main inclusion report needs to be written up, and it gets reviewed
[04:30] <Vaske_Car> enabled universe http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15232
[04:30] <gpd> phpmyadmin is my equivalent to apt-get install lamp ;)
[04:30] <Vaske_Car> result http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15233
[04:31] <ajmitch> and you did sudo aptitude update?
[04:31] <ajmitch> gpd: it's had a few security holes lately
[04:34] <gpd> so a friend of mine has been having issues with NFS under debian sarge - I suggested he give Dapper Server a try - is there likely to be any difference?  His NFS is on a 12G RAID device and it randomly fails under load
[04:34] <gpd> s/12G/12T/ cough
[04:34] <ajmitch> there may be some difference, given it's a newer kernel & utils
[04:35] <ajmitch> random failures may get random bugfixes :)
[04:35] <gpd> k - that is what i assumed also
[04:37] <Vaske_Car> ajmitch, tx
[10:19] <Intruder> Morning
[01:44] <edneymatias> hi!
[04:29] <erchache> hi
[04:30] <erchache> i want to get a sun t2000 offered by sun to testing it and install ubuntu dapper
[04:30] <ajmitch> hello
[04:30] <erchache> i have a server with 50000 diary users and wants to know performance of T2000
[04:30] <erchache> anybody has a T2000 or know somebody which do this before?
[04:31] <ajmitch> yes
[04:31] <ajmitch> well, I've installed dapper
[04:31] <erchache> who?
[04:31] <ajmitch> I haven't done performance testing on that scale :)
[04:31] <erchache> on a sun T2000 rack server?
[04:31] <ajmitch> yes
[04:31] <erchache> and goes on?
[04:31] <erchache> has problem with NIC's or similar?
[04:31] <ajmitch> no, it works fine
[04:31] <erchache> all hardware are recognize?
[04:32] <erchache> T2000 doesnt have ILO no?
[04:32] <ajmitch> ALOM
[04:32] <erchache> yepa :-P
[04:32] <erchache> http://enciclopedia.us.es/estadisticas
[04:32] <ajmitch> using the installer via ALOM is fairly slow
[04:32] <erchache> this is one of my servers....is on a sun fire v65
[04:33] <ajmitch> but that's more a 'feature' of the hardware
[04:33] <erchache> one person of ubuntu server team said to me :-D
[04:33] <erchache> cd its the best and fast way to install ubuntu on T2000
[04:33] <ajmitch> yes, I installed from cd
[04:34] <erchache> i dont call to SUN yet for ask details of this but on my company has contracts and contacts with sun
[04:34] <erchache> but its a good oportunity to kill 2 birds on one shot
[04:34] <erchache> see T2000 performance and stability of ubuntu dapper on a highload server
[04:35] <erchache> but 8000  are the problem :-P
[04:35] <erchache> i bought a hp dl 145 g2 and is a shit
[04:35] <erchache> i install ubuntu under preasure
[04:35] <erchache> con calzador :-P
[04:36] <erchache> because sun sparc machines wasnt support by ubuntu last summer
[04:36] <erchache> ajmitch: do you use T2000 with ubuntu diary?
[04:37] <ajmitch> diary?
[04:37] <erchache> every day
[04:37] <erchache> on production
[04:37] <erchache> ajmitch
[04:37] <ajmitch> no, we have the servers for testing & development
[04:37] <ajmitch> which is a little held up until we move them to another server room :)
[04:37] <erchache> uhmmm
[04:38] <erchache> im too :-P
[04:38] <ajmitch> jsgotangco: nice, shiny toys...
[04:40] <erchache> jejejeje
[04:40] <erchache> well...im waiting for notices for ask sun T2000 machine test it program
[07:45] <usual> I see the alt iso for ubuntu server mentions RAID config, do I need the alt iso to use ubuntu server with a raid controller??
[07:46] <neuralis> usual: no.
[07:46] <usual> ok, I want to toss it on a DL140G2
[07:46] <usual> and the debian installers are actin funky
[07:46] <neuralis> funky?
[07:47] <usual> well, the stable iso doesn't seem to want to deal with partitioning and the daily builds DNS is borked, so it's a lose lose
[07:47] <usual> so I will try ubuntu server
[07:49] <neuralis> the d-i paritioning logic is the same in ubuntu as it is in debian.
[07:49] <neuralis> what do you mean by "doesn't seem to want to deal with partitioning"?
[07:49] <usual> yeah, but the differences in the debian installers, it works in one and not the other
[07:49] <usual> maybe the kernel modules or something I dn't know
[07:49] <usual> so where the partitioning works, the DNS doesn't and vice versa
[07:49] <neuralis> ah.
[07:50] <neuralis> well, usually it should Just Work[TM]  if you have a hardware raid controller.
[07:50] <usual> I like ubuntu and respect the project so I will give the server aa run
[07:50] <usual> yeah, it's all pretty standard HP stuff. servers like a week old
[07:51] <usual> debian see's it all...but the differences between installers kinda sucks
[07:51] <usual> I like the LAMP feature as well
[07:51] <usual> I'm going to use the box for cacti and maybe a few other things
[07:51] <usual> may work out well for me
[07:51] <usual> so many people use linux for amp
[07:52] <usual> so...i'm glad someone stepped up and said hey..heres an idea
[07:52] <usual> about time heh
[07:52] <neuralis> infinity: well done. and here i was thinking it was a totally useless addition :-D
[07:52] <usual> it's just a meta package or something?
[07:52] <usual> is that the correct term
[07:53] <usual> task package
[07:53] <neuralis> it just installs the right individual packages, yes.
[07:53] <usual> cool
[07:53] <usual> apt-get blah blah blah-dev blah03 gets annoying
[07:54] <usual> :D
[07:56] <usual> are universe packages recieving security updates?
[07:56] <neuralis> solely at the convenience and discretion of their community maintainers.
[08:43] <usual> ok
[09:31] <usual> well that sucks, the ubuntu installer seems to not like the raid card or something
[09:32] <maswan> usual: cciss?
[09:52] <usual> HP SAS sata
[09:56] <usual> not sure whats up with the broadcom nics either
[09:56] <usual> it see's them but that act weird
[09:56] <usual> not detecting dhcp one minute and detecting it the next...
[11:23] <Vaske_Car> I installed LAMP and forum but just first page can be displayed to others, it they access any other part of the forum script can not be dispyaled
[11:24] <Vaske_Car> what is the problem
[11:47] <uniq> vaske_car: this is not a support channel, don't expect to get help here. you should try #ubuntu