[12:00] <purserj> can someone please explain the rational behind the no /etc/ld.so.conf decision?
[12:00] <Maynoth> how many more years do you guys think it will take before ubuntu gets up to par with windows
[12:00] <jbirdAngel> hello, whats gnomes irc client
[12:00] <soundray> jikbag: check out timeoutd
[12:00] <mitrovarr> kinda depends on how good/bad vista is
[12:00] <nickrud> purserj, you can create one for any extra lib dirs you want
[12:00] <AJ004> czr323:  I dont see the satellite image
[12:00] <Seq> Maynoth: in terms of what?
[12:00] <czer323> jbirdangel> xchat-gnome
[12:00] <KevLee> jjaz - thanks I'll look into that :o
[12:00] <jikbag> soundray: thank you
[12:00] <jbirdAngel> czer323: thanks
[12:00] <kjuanito> my X config won't start in Dapper after I removed the CD... is there any utility to config it in text mode?
[12:00] <mitrovarr> right now ubuntu is better for some people, it's really good for extremely basic computer users with admin available
[12:00] <soundray> stefano: no, wine is best used in a 32bit chroot
[12:00] <Selaiah> czer323: I don't know for sure if it authenticates, my problem is i dont know where it gets stuck in the first. the Wlan is WPA2 encrypted and so i had to configure it manually i cant tell what exactly is the problem.
[12:01] <nickrud> purserj, erm, as I remember anyway.
[12:01] <r0xoR> how do i chmod a folder with the gid sticky bit set? what i want is for all files under a certain folder to be created with the same group permissions as the parent folder
[12:01] <jjazz> KevLee: You might also need the build-essential package, depending on what you're doing.
[12:01] <r0xoR> does that make sense?
[12:01] <stefano> sounday: thank you, you've been helpful
[12:01] <nickrud> mitrovarr, yeah, that's so true
[12:01] <Maynoth> ease of 3rd party software and driver installation
[12:01] <AJ004> czr323:  I see a brown ubuntu flipscreen........ i had the flipscreen with some other image tho
[12:01] <Maynoth> mostly
[12:01] <mitrovarr> like when I replaced my mom's windows 98 with ubuntu, she really liked it... she didn't administrate her computer anyway, so it didn't change her use experience, and it suddenly became way faster and more reliable
[12:01] <nickrud> r0xoR, chmod g+s <dir>
[12:01] <andi5> r0xoR: i think chmod g+s $dir
[12:01] <purserj> nickrud, I understand this, however I am trying to get my head around the actual removal of the file when its a pretty standard part of any distro
[12:01] <mitrovarr> I do use a lot of XP myself for games
[12:01] <soundray> stefano: I'm about to replace amd64 with i386 on my machine...
[12:01] <czer323> Selaiah> I've heard a alot of problems with WPA until you update the drivers.  Check out the ubuntu how tos on the website.  Tehy're more insightful than I am.
[12:01] <KevLee> jjaz - thanks  - I'll look for it in add/remove - I think this does that for me.
[12:02] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: what about for someone who wants to get into programing/graphic design/web development
[12:02] <backz> Hi, I'm trying to install the 6.06 Dapper on a AMD64 / 1gb ram / asus a8v series. but, when I boot install cd, it returns: KERNEL PANIC - Not Syncing: Attempted to kill init. why?
[12:02] <nickrud> purserj, heh. wait. You'll find more, the ubunters are daring
[12:02] <r0xoR> nickrud, andi5, i tried that already but it hasn't done quite what i thought it would do
[12:02] <mitrovarr> graphic design = suck
[12:02] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: if its okay if i enter the conversation
[12:02] <stefano> soundray: due to problems with the pakages? I'm using debian, at the moment, amd64 pure and a separate chrooted ia32 env.
[12:02] <mitrovarr> GIMP has a ridiculous embarrasing name and the worst interface ever concieved.
[12:02] <purserj> nickrud, now I'm worried
[12:02] <Flannel> mitrovarr: you going to do anything except troll?
[12:02] <czer323> aj004> I had to change it to and from flipscreen before it was the satellite.  I guess it uses a random image every time.
[12:02] <nickrud> I thought pan was the worst. But this pretty off topic
[12:02] <sorush20> mitrovarr: yes I agree
[12:02] <mitrovarr> oh come on all I did was complain about the name
[12:02] <andi5> r0xoR: but you know what gid sticky means, right :)
[12:02] <Selaiah> czer323: I think I've read them all =D been trying nothing bu this for a couple of days now. I think im actually nearing solution of the problem, I just dont know whats the flaw heh =(
[12:03] <mitrovarr> that's hardly trolling
[12:03] <Codenut>    /quit
[12:03] <mitrovarr> for developement... kind of depends on what developement you're going to do, that decides your platform for you sometimes
[12:03] <soundray> stefano: the main reason is that I need to run some glx based programs remotely via ssh X forwarding. I just can't get it to work in amd64.
[12:03] <AJ004> czr323:  yeah see it
[12:03] <avis> beautiful
[12:03] <AJ004> i changed to it a few times
[12:03] <AJ004> now i see it
[12:03] <sn00p> I still cant find xchat in universe
[12:03] <d00by> can someone walk me through installing the madwifi drivers for my Netgear WG511T or give me a site that does
[12:03] <mitrovarr> a lot of developers love linux, but if you're going to work with something windows-specific, obviously you'll need it in some capacity
[12:03] <sn00p> I'm using dapper drake
[12:03] <stefano> soundray: ok, I understand
[12:03] <sorush20> how do I get ubuntu to rescan and redetect my usb devices ?
[12:03] <stefano> sounday: ty and bye!
[12:03] <sorush20> my usb headphone is not working
[12:04] <r0xoR> andi5, not for certain no
[12:04] <andi5> r0xoR: what do you want to achieve?
[12:04] <soundray> stefano: I mean, glx works locally, but not when it's supposed to act as the server.
[12:04] <roo_> sorush20, tried unplug/plug?
[12:04] <guestie> guys, on Windows I use GroupWise to access my school email, would evolution work with such an account (I think It's IMAP, not sure though)
[12:04] <deflux-> How do I install the dig utility on ubuntu?
[12:04] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: okay, ya i dont really know what ill be doing, but i am trying to switch over to opensource/free stuff as opposed to paying money for stuff
[12:04] <KevLee> jjaz t - thanks I've now got make... got another problem now but will do some reading first!   Cheers again - Kev
[12:04] <sorush20> roo_: yes.. very funny
[12:04] <sn00p> Can anybody tell me where do I find xchat regular and not gnome frontend in the apt source?
[12:04] <soundray> stefano: some other things are easier as well -- acroread and flash, notably.
[12:04] <r0xoR> andi5, i want to have a folder, inside of which, any other created file or folder has a particular group and has particular group permissions set
[12:04] <Flannel> sn00p: it's in universe
[12:04] <r0xoR> andi5, for instance:
[12:04] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: i mean what all ill be programming if anything, but probably mostly stuff for linux apps ill use but maybe some windows things i dunno
[12:04] <sn00p> I cant find it in universe
[12:04] <NoUse> !info xchat
[12:04] <stefano> soundray: i understnd. never tried to run video accelerated software using ssh -X
[12:04] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[12:04] <roo_> sorush20, any relevant dmesg output?
[12:05] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  You sound like a good candidate for dual booting
[12:05] <Flannel> sn00p: 'xchat' is the package name
[12:05] <NoUse> sn00p its not in universe
[12:05] <r0xoR> andi5, if i have a folder called foo/ and foo has permissions of rw-rw-r
[12:05] <sn00p> I searche din synaptic
[12:05] <hyphenated> sorush20: after plugging it back in, you should run 'dmesg | tail' in a terminal, and copy the output into a pastebin
[12:05] <NoUse> sn00p 'sudo aptitude install xchat'
[12:05] <Flannel> NoUse: yes it is.  In dapper it's in universe.
[12:05] <r0xoR> andi5, i want all other files under foo/ such as foo/bar.txt to be created with the same group permissions
[12:05] <carthik_away> sn00p: why dont you use synaptic and search for xchat in "name and description" and pick the version/option that suits you most?
[12:05] <theeil> what is the packate for the kernel source?
[12:05] <r0xoR> andi5: i.e. read write in this example
[12:05] <nickrud> sn00p, it's in universe, you probably have a problem with your sources if synaptic can't find it
[12:05] <NoUse> Flannel why is ubotu still pointed at Breezy?
[12:05] <carthik_away> sn00p: sorry saw you already did that
[12:05] <r0xoR> andi5: i also want to force all files to have the group that foo has
[12:05] <soundray> theeil: linux-source-<version>
[12:06] <Flannel> NoUse: no idea
[12:06] <nickrud> NoUse, someone should poke cafuego about that then
[12:06] <soundray> theeil: try apt-cache linux source
[12:06] <backz> whey? somebody is using asus a8v/amd64 with ubuntu dapper for amd64?
[12:06] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: i am currently dual booted, i had suse with kde, then installed kubuntu, now i installed and am on gnome, so am wondering how gnome would work for those and such, but if i buy a new computer in the future and can get it without windows and save some money i think i will, but since its likely to be a laptop i dont think its likely it wont come with it
[12:06] <clement_lefebvre> r0xoR, http://www.linuxforums.org/security/file_permissions.html
[12:06] <danfg> what's the keyboard layout for regular US keyboards where you can use dead keys for accentuation?
[12:06] <NET||abuse> i gots a problem with this compiz startup,, getting this error, compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing \n compiz.real: Failed to manage screen: 0 \ncompiz.real: No managable screens found on display :0.0
[12:06] <NET||abuse> i'm on amd64 processor
[12:06] <Flannel> NET||abuse: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:06] <Jax> what's the name of the bot that is loggin this channel to the web?
[12:07] <theeil> is it recomended that i install the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com or through apt?
[12:07] <NET||abuse> Flannel: been asking, no one answers
[12:07] <NoUse> theeil through apt
[12:07] <soundray> theeil: follow the wiki:
[12:07] <soundray> !nvidia
[12:07] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[12:07] <theeil> NoUse: never worked for me in the past, but willing to give it another try on the new release, what is the command?
[12:07] <jbirdAngel> is gnome equally suitable for learning and doing programming/graphic design/web design as kde?
[12:07] <sn00p> I think I got xchat to install now
[12:07] <skippy81> theeil, install the apt ones unless you have a specific need for the latest ones
[12:08] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  running linux on laptops requires special attention (because of proprietary hardware) so I'd really check it out before you buy any specific model
[12:08] <mitrovarr> to make sure stuff's going to work
[12:08] <andi5> r0xoR: the sticky bit should suffice to make newly created files have the same gid..... no idea about the permissions.... is there some "local umask"? ;-)
[12:08] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, it's a question of taste. Both KDE and Gnome do pretty much everything.
[12:08] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: oh okay thanks for the tip... ill have to learn more then to figure that out but wont worry that for now as this laptop should last
[12:08] <delire> had anyone here found that they can't log into Dapper after changing the panel size?
[12:08] <jbirdAngel> clement_lefebvre: okay thank you
[12:08] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  I don't really notice substantial usability differences between gnome and kde (or even xfce or other windows managers).  They run each other's programs.... so it's mostly preference.  At least, that's what I think.
[12:09] <r0xoR> andi5, i guess i'll have to set the umask then
[12:09] <moparfan90> im trying to install a /deb file and its saying "error: dependency is not satisfiable: xlib"   what should i do??
[12:09] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: okay thank you
[12:09] <moparfan90> please help
[12:09] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  I do think that most of KDE's applications are superior to gnome's, but that's just me.
[12:09] <andi5> r0xoR: what file system? maybe you can make use of acls somehow?
[12:09] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: examples?
[12:09] <r0xoR> andi5, ext3
[12:09] <deflux-> In command line, how can I search for a specific package that I may have installed on my system?
[12:09] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  I like smb4k and kaffeine
[12:09] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, try both, see which one you prefer in terms and look and feel. Applications should run on both anyway.
[12:09] <carthik> moparfan90: try and find a .deb made for ubuntu dapper. The version numbers for the dependencies might not match if you use a random .deb
[12:09] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  And k3b
[12:09] <cvp> How do I mount an .mds image?
[12:10] <andi5> r0xoR: play with ACLs, maybe they can help you :)
[12:10] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  But then again, I like Gaim, which is gnome.
[12:10] <Cin> How does one downgrade a package with synaptic, like, Xorg7 to Xorg6 for instance?
[12:10] <cvp> Is it anything like mounting an .iso?
[12:10] <jbirdAngel> clement_lefebvre: okay thank you, i was on kde and am now on gnome :)
[12:10] <skippy81> moparfan90:  could you please paste the enire scrreen into pastebin for me to see please?
[12:10] <andrejkw> Is there any way to hide a window of an application by passing on some kind of a parameter?
[12:10] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: okay can you tell me what those do, kaffeine is a multimedia player right? whats smb4k and k3b
[12:10] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel: and KDE and gnome applications are cross-compatible.  So like was said above, use what you like.
[12:10] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, I like KDE apps a lot myself, but now I can run them under gnome so..
[12:10] <andi5> r0xoR: i think they call it "extended attributes" or such, right?
[12:10] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: okay thank you
[12:10] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, k3b is a CD/DVD burner.
[12:11] <jbirdAngel> clement_lefebvre: okay they dont run alot slower or have more problems?
[12:11] <jbirdAngel> oh okay thanks
, i cant.. i just double clicked the .deb ile and a window comes up to install it.. and i cant copy it
[12:11] <Cin> How does one downgrade a package with synaptic, like, Xorg7 to Xorg6 for instance?
[12:11] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  Kaffeine is a multimedia frontend (xine is the engine I believe).  I like it because it works well with the KDE lirc backend.  SMB4k is a samba browser, k3b is a CD/DVD burner.
[12:11] <danfg> what's the equivalent of windows' "US-International" keyboard layout? it's a regular US keyboard layout but you can accentuate characters with dead keys like `,~,'," and ^
[12:11] <andi5> cvp: mount via loopback
[12:11] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, no.
[12:11] <skippy81> moparfan90:  ok is the .deb on your desktop?
[12:11] <cvp> andi5: I'm kind of a noob... can you explain a bit more please?
[12:11] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: okay thank you, what is samba? ive heard the word but dont know what it is
[12:11] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, for instance I ran Konversation under Gnome lately, and it ran smoothly.
[12:11] <moparfan90> yeah
[12:11] <cubikdice> !XGL
[12:11] <ubotu> xgl is, like, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[12:11] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel: SMB is the protocol used for windows file and printer sharing, SAMBA is the free implementation.
[12:11] <skippy81> moparfan90:  ok open a terminal window
[12:12] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, samba is a protocol used to access windows shared folders.
[12:12] <jbirdAngel> clement_lefebvre: okay thank you, heh thats what im doing right now :) as i installed gnome but still have all teh kde apps, but had bene told they would be slower non native nad such
[12:12] <andi5> cvp: try man losetup
[12:12] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: oh okay thank you
[12:12] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  So if you want to share files and printers with windows computers on a LAN (which I do) then you'll want a samba browser.
[12:12] <andi5> cvp: but maybe there is some more direct way within mount, ... i think mount $file $dir -o loop or such
[12:12] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, they are native.. wheter you run gnome or KDE, they come with the KDE libs.
[12:12] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: ya ill wnat to do that
[12:12] <jbirdAngel> clement_lefebvre: oh okay
[12:12] <moparfan90> ok....
[12:12] <skippy81> moparfan90:  type "cd /Desktop" and enter.  then type "sudo dpkg - i *.deb" assuming threre is only one deb file on your desktop
[12:13] <uleopold> Hello, after Dapper upgrade, my dell laptop is terribly slow. Anuy idea what to do?
[12:13] <cvp> andi5: Thanks!
[12:13] <skippy81> moparfan90:  i then want you to copy everything from your terminal into pastebin.com for me please
[12:13] <sorush20> here is the message I get..
[12:14] <bootlick> http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing.html  This was a very handy install guide for me
[12:14] <moparfan90> ok 1 min
[12:14] <roler> I have a Intel Core Duo laptop and would like to run a SMP kernel. How can I make ubuntu switch?
[12:14] <skippy81> roler:  recompile the kernel with SMP enabled
[12:14] <jbirdAngel> at this point i kind of like gnome's layout, i had to change it from its default to make it more "windows"-like, but that is what i want, and also want something that people i know who use windows could easily switch to and save money, the biggest block to this atleast for one person is i dont find a suitable QuickBooks & QuickBooks Point of Sale replacement
[12:15] <danfg> wow, does anyone here use accentuation?
[12:15] <skippy81> brb pizza
[12:15] <symetric> accentuation?
[12:15] <Cin> How does one downgrade a package with synaptic, like, Xorg7 to Xorg6 for instance?
[12:15] <bullrage> I just installed Zend from a .bin file, it installed but how do I run the application. Nothing for Zend is showing up when I search the file system. :/
[12:16] <javiolo> Im looking for a free email with high storage and if its possible Imap, any ideas ? I dont want to use gmail
[12:16] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  You might be able to get them working with wine... and I know there's a few free financial packages out there.
[12:16] <cdubya> mmm, pizza
[12:16] <backz> Hi! my ubuntu for amd64 is returning it when I boot install cd:  Kernel panic-no syncing : No init found.
[12:16] <NoUse> javiolo how much storage?
[12:16] <danfg> symetric: yeah, i mean, accentuated characters
[12:16] <``666> EUREKA! i found it!
[12:16] <sorush20> has anyone here been sold over valued stocks?
[12:16] <``666> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1096596&postcount=8
[12:16] <andi5> Cin: this would be a nontrivial downgrade... and do not expect dapper to feature a lot of different versions for a package (i think they have ... 1 per pkg ;-))
[12:17] <javiolo> nouse no more than 1gb, Id like to use it to subscribe to lists...
[12:17] <uleopold> hello???
[12:17] <rackerz> judah hello?
[12:17] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: well ive seen personal financial things that look to me like theyd be fine, but my family has a store and uses quickbooks and quickbooks point of sale and switches the files bakc and forth with an accountant or soemthing, so it'd be nice if there was one that could export adn import quickbook files
[12:17] <danfg> symetric: for any purpose. maybe i should ask in #ubuntu-de, even though i don't speak german
[12:17] <andi5> danfg: what is up?
[12:17] <uleopold> my laptop is very slow after dapper upgrade
[12:17] <jbirdAngel> clement_lefebvre and mitrovarr: how then does Xfce compare? its lighter and faster, but if your using all the same apps is it still, or what makes it lighter or what doesnt it come with that gnome/kde do
[12:17] <Cin> andi5, splendid... :\
[12:17] <jbirdAngel> i was told its just appsa nd stuf
[12:17] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  No idea then, I don't do that kind of thing with my computer
[12:18] <javiolo> nouse any idea ?
[12:18] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: okay thank you
[12:18] <danfg> andi5: something related to keyboard layouts with accentuation, but i guess english users don't ever accentuate anything :)
[12:18] <moparfan90> ok i pasted it
[12:18] <NoUse> javiolo I didn't realized you said free, my hosting company gives a lot of email storage and they have imap but its not free
[12:18] <andi5> danfg: do you want to type some?
[12:18] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, it's lighter and faster. Apps run the same way though. But it has less features in itself and is faster to respond or to start.
[12:18] <reid> I get this error whe I use the command scons: Checking for C header file GL/gl.h... no Did not find gl.h, exiting!
[12:18] <roler> skippy81; there has to be a way to use ubuntu and switch to a SMP kernel
[12:18] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  I believe xfce is what a lot of livecds use.  I think the difference is that a lot of the little modules and such that gnome and KDE have available, it doesn't.
[12:18] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, also, since XFCE takes less resources, your apps run faster.
[12:19] <javiolo> nouse ok, I dont mind the storage just a free one
[12:19] <Flannel> skippy81, roler, as of dapper all kernels are SMP
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[12:19] <Cin> jbirdAngel, Xfce makes my applications run smoother, faster refresh rate, and it has its own compositor, which, when ran, makes it very fast with no flickering or redraw at all. Includes transparency also.
[12:19] <NoUse> javiolo I'm not sure you'll see many free IMAP services, IMAP is expensive for ISPs
[12:19] <rug> Howdy all
[12:19] <roler> Flannel; I am using dapper - and /proc/cpuinfo mentions only one cpu...
[12:19] <danfg> andi5: yes, i'm looking for the equivalent of windows' "US-International" keyboard layout, which is regular US keyboard, but with dead keys for accentuation, like `,~,'," and ^
[12:19] <javiolo> nouse ok so pop3 :P
[12:19] <uleopold> my laptop is very slow after upgrade from breezy to dapper
[12:20] <Flannel> roler: do you have a SMP-able processor?
[12:20] <lee_> uleopold: Do a rain dance and all should be well.
[12:20] <``666> hey, good night all :)
[12:20] <``666> see ya soon
[12:20] <clement_lefebvre> see you ``666
[12:20] <Marineboy> !kde
[12:20] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr, clement_lefebvre, & Cin, okay thanks, so like what less features does it have that someone used to windows might want?
[12:20] <roler> Flannel; yes, I have an Intel Core Duo... I just switched from Debian and i know it works. When running SMP, I can see the percentage usage of each processor
[12:20] <backz> hey. can someone help me? why my ubuntu can't boot? it returns: kernel panic - no syncing: No init found.
[12:20] <andi5> danfg: i guess you know system->settings-keyboard->layouts->add, right?
[12:21] <skippy81> moparfan90:  sorry was getting a pizza
[12:21] <moparfan90> i did it wrong.. 1 min
[12:21] <reid> what package has gl.h in it???
[12:21] <Flannel> roler: hmm, you might have to do something to enable it, I suppose.  but, I haven't heard anything about it.
[12:21] <skippy81> moparfan90:  you have to link the page to me :)
[12:21] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, well it's minimalistic... it has a small config tool, a file explorer.. some applets.. and that's about it.
[12:21] <ruggy> whats on the dvd ?
[12:21] <uleopold> well thx lee
[12:21] <jbirdAngel> in xchat can i make it so that 1 channel will notify me upon new message in room, but only the one channel?
[12:21] <mitrovarr> jbirdAngel:  Sorry, I don't really know.  I've liked XFCE when I've used it.  I think it might lack (or be incompatible with) tray icons.
[12:21] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, the best is to try it.
[12:21] <Cin> jbirdAngel, well, I still use GNOME's panel, so I still get the applets and such like, and Nautilus for file browsing. I just use XFCE for it's actual drawing speed.
[12:21] <lee_> uleopold: Did it work?
[12:21] <jbirdAngel> mitrovarr: okay thanks
, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15218
[12:22] <jbirdAngel> clement_lefebvre: okay thank you
[12:22] <danfg> andi5: yes, the "twist" is that i'm looking for that layout, but in dvorak :)
[12:22] <uleopold> lee: are you serious?
[12:22] <jbirdAngel> Cin, sounds complicated to do all that? is nautilus what gnome uses for file browsing?
[12:22] <lee_> Uleopold: Yes, it worked for me.
[12:22] <Cin> jbirdAngel, yeah.
[12:22] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, you can install the package xubuntu-desktop and this will add a "XFCE" option in you session menu when you log in from GDM.
[12:22] <Cin> jbirdAngel, they're just programs that you can run at startup like GNOME does, or any time.
[12:22] <Tobberoth> Music Player says my .mp3 aren't audio streams.. how do I fix it?
[12:22] <ruggy> is there package/file list of the ubuntu dvd?
[12:23] <andi5> danfg: play with xmodmap is all i can say as hint :)
[12:23] <uleopold> anyone else on improving speed? lee suggested a rain dance
[12:23] <avis> Tobberoth, please see restricted formats in the ubuntu wiki
[12:23] <Tobberoth> allright, thanks
[12:23] <danfg> andi5: thanks, will look into it :)
[12:23] <Flannel> uleopold: sacrificing virgins never hurt anyone.
[12:23] <Cin> uleopold, speed of what, specifically?
[12:23] <jbirdAngel> clement_lefebvre, Cin: okay i think i want to try that, sudo apptitutde install xubuntu-desktop in terminal/console?
[12:23] <lee_> Uleopold: how much ram do you have?
, anything?
[12:23] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, yep
[12:23] <andi5> danfg: create a base .xmodmap with some app (i did that with xkeycaps before gnome got really cool) and edit it by hand
[12:23] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, only on "p" at aptitude
[12:24] <skippy81> moparfan90: yeah just finding you packages now mate
[12:24] <uleopold> breezy was running 10times faster
[12:24] <Mourner> Hi! In my Dapper installation,  I can't open any links from various applications (such as Evolution and Gaim) in Firefox - after clicking, nothing happens. How can I fix that?
[12:24] <maddy_> what is postfix?
 ok thanks
[12:24] <clement_lefebvre> maddy, an smtp server, mail transport agent.
[12:24] <uleopold> RAM 512MB, cpu 1.8Ghz P4 dell inspiron 8200
[12:24] <jbirdAngel> clement_lefebvre: okay thank you :)
[12:24] <clement_lefebvre> jbirdAngel, no pb.
[12:24] <sn00p> Is there any way I can edit firefox when it wants to use the windows media player to have it use the totem player instead?
[12:24] <danfg> andi5: any chance there's a pretty gui for that? :)
[12:24] <andi5> danfg: best would to search whether the gnome layouts have xmodmap files attached somewhere :)
[12:24] <avis> i am curious i am using xchat and certain users are highlighted red not many but skippy came up as one.  he seems to be the only one.  anyone know whats going on with that ?
[12:24] <pvangarde> hey , I get a make error when I try to compile my kernel. I happens when a usb driver is getting compiled. can anyone help me?
[12:24] <Mourner> Anyone?
[12:24] <maddy_> clement_lefebvre, thanx
[12:25] <lee_> uleopold:Sounds similiar to my config. What kind of graphics card?
[12:25] <andi5> danfg: xkeycaps is graphical, but old ;-)
[12:25] <jbirdAngel> Cin: how would i set it up so that i use gnome's panel and nautilus but xfce
[12:25] <skippy81> moparfan90:  from your terminal type "sudo apt-get xlibs" and then try "sudo dpkg -i cadega.deb" again
[12:25] <keir> !vim7
[12:25] <Stormx2> Mourner: It may be a default application setting
[12:25] <ubotu> vim7 will be available in edgy
[12:25] <uleopold> radeaon 9000 or so with 64MB graphics ram
[12:25] <keir> no backports to dapper for vim7?
[12:25] <Stormx2> Mourner: Try checking under System for something like "Prefered applications"
[12:25] <lee_> hmm
[12:25] <MdSalih> anyone here tried loading a live disk onto a USB Flash drive... or installed ubuntu on one ?
[12:25] <uleopold> I have the feeling that maybe x-server slows things down
[12:25] <maddy_> is my radeon 9800xt wel sopported in linux
[12:26] <bjornkri> hey hey
[12:26] <clement_lefebvre> maddy, if you want to install an smtp server on your machine, you can very easily do so by installing the package mailx, then when ask choose Internet Site.. and point your SMTP config in your mail client to localhot on port 25.
[12:26] <andi5> danfg: btw, the third tab in settings->keyboard does not have an option to activate dead keys?
[12:26] <uleopold> hdparm also didn't help so far
[12:26] <Mourner> Stormx2, thanks!
[12:26] <Cin> jbirdAngel, well, the program to run GNOME's taskbar is gnome-panel. Get on Xubuntu first.
[12:26] <lee_> I have a 1.4 ghz pM  512 ram, and a ati 9600..................Do you run Xgl? that could slow things down
[12:26] <maddy_> clement_lefebvre, thanx m8 im busy upgrading and wuz wondering whether postfix is relevant
[12:26] <jbirdAngel> Cin: okay its downloading/installing
[12:26] <jbirdAngel> thank yo
, it says xlibs isnt a command or something.. i tried sudo apt-get install xlibs and it said theres no install canditat
[12:26] <jbirdAngel> u
[12:26] <keithg> Hello, I have been having troubles with my hard drive.  I eventually found a tool from it's homepage that will run diagnostics on it.  But it's a .exe file, that will write to a floppy.  Is there anything I can use in Linux that could do something similar?  (I'm on a livecd now)
[12:27] <skippy81> moparfan90:  ok are you running Dapper?
[12:27] <uleopold> is there a debug command to see what actually eats all the speed
[12:27] <uleopold> ?
[12:27] <moparfan90> 6.6
[12:27] <moparfan90> 32bit
[12:27] <andi5> keithg: dd?
[12:27] <clement_lefebvre> maddy_, depends. My ISP doesn't provide any SMTP server so I use postfix... but if you have an SMTP server available for you on the net, then you probably don't need postfix.
[12:27] <Cin> uleopold, checkout gnome-system-monitor and see if a process is using up CPU on the task list?
[12:27] <jbirdAngel> in xchat can i make it so that 1 channel will notify me upon new message in room, but only the one channel?
[12:27] <keithg> andi5:  What do you mean 'dd?'?
[12:27] <andi5> keithg: well, ... dd
[12:28] <lee_> Are you in gnome?
[12:28] <lee_> Uleopold
[12:28] <danfg> andi5: i'm looking into it, i'll get back to you. thanks a lot btw :)
[12:28] <clement_lefebvre> uleopold, top
[12:28] <avis> lee_, i'm not sure but i ran it with a 386 kernel and upgraded to their nvidia-kernel-common and i have a p4 2.4 ghz weith 1 gig ram and with a fair amount of applications open it was a wee bit resource intensive
[12:28] <uleopold> yes I am in gnome
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> maddy_: You can use exim/postfix/sendmail with a smarthost if you wish
[12:28] <Stormx2> Is there a beagle plugin for the deskbar?
[12:28] <skippy81> ok moparfan90, first try this http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs_6.8.2-77.1_all.deb download that file to your desktop and run dpkg -i on it
[12:28] <andi5> danfg: maybe there is a frontend for it, but basically you can perfectly write raw data to floppies with dd :)
, ok thanks
[12:28] <uleopold> it always Xorg on the top
[12:28] <maddy_> clement_lefebvre, my smtp block traffic on port 25 outgoing most isps do in Holland :)
[12:28] <andi5> danfg: sorry
[12:28] <lee_> uleopold: press ctl f2
[12:28] <andi5> keithg: maybe there is a frontend for it, but basically you can perfectly write raw data to floppies with dd :)
[12:29] <maddy_> spammers everywhere :
[12:29] <lee_> wait sorry
[12:29] <lee_> Alt F2
[12:29] <lee_> type in system monitor
[12:29] <skippy81> moparfan90:  if that doesnt work, then you will have to play with your /etc/apt/sources.list file, there is a suggestion in this thread
[12:29] <andi5> danfg: good luck =)
[12:29] <uleopold> i use top
[12:29] <nickrud> Stormx2, when I updated the deskbar, it suggested python-beagle. I haven't explored it much though
[12:29] <sn00p> Is there any way I can edit firefox when it wants to use the windows media player to have it use the totem player instead?
[12:29] <lee_> avis: do you have rain enabled
[12:29] <skippy81> moparfan90: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120540&highlight=cadega, try my method 1st though
[12:29] <uleopold> and it shows xorg wit always around 5%
[12:29] <keithg> andi5:  Well the file with the diagnostic tools is a .exe, and the .exe writes to the floppy itself.  I can't really extract the files it wants to write.
[12:30] <avis> i dont know what rain is lee_
[12:30] <avis> lee_, i am using xorg now i am no longer a xgl user
[12:30] <danfg> andi5: :)
[12:30] <uberglitch> Can someone help me? My problem is that Ubuntu hangs when starting hotplug services
[12:30] <ipfw> sn00p: didn't know they had windows media player for *nix (linux) ?
[12:30] <andi5> keithg: oh.... hm.... wine? (did i really suggest that???)
[12:30] <lee_> avis: wait, I'm confused, what are you asking?
[12:31] <avis> lee_, you asked about xgl on 1.4 ??
[12:31] <skippy81> uberglitch:  try disconnecting usb hubs and other unneeded devices
[12:31] <sn00p> ipfw: no when I goto a website in linux and it asks for the windows mediaplayer I want to change that so it uses totem mplayer
[12:31] <lee_> avis I did?
[12:31] <keithg> andi5:  I am running off a livecd right now, and it doesn't have wine already on it.
[12:31] <avis> heh
[12:31] <avis> sorry
[12:31] <lee_> avis idk lol
[12:31] <ipfw> uberglitch: check boot options, and toggle them off, then turn the off with the boot scripts, if you don't actually need them -- if you do, then you have to start troubleshooting :P
, ok thanks it worked
[12:31] <bootlick> How do I change the path settings in drapper?
[12:31] <uberglitch> skippy81: I tried that, nothing but the ps2 keyboard and moniter are connected :/
[12:31] <moparfan90> bye
[12:31] <skippy81> moparfan90:  good :)
[12:31] <andi5> keithg: so maybe there is some comparable diagnostics tool availabe..... what do you want to test?
[12:31] <ipfw> sn00p: oh, thats "file associations" riiight ?
[12:32] <l_r> okay. it seems matrox stopped to support their G* cards on xorg 7.0
[12:32] <sn00p> ipfw, i think so where do I change that
[12:32] <ipfw> sn00p: hmm, one sec (I'll go look)
[12:32] <sn00p> ok,
[12:32] <l_r> i never had problems with cards up until now
[12:32] <lee_> please join #xgl if you know what you're talking about! :0
[12:32] <keithg> andi5:  I'm not really sure, I just know that I have been having troubles with /dev/hda and I decided to check out western digitals website to see what I could find there.
[12:33] <andi5> keithg: i have a cdrom here that has this western digital test..... sorry for being unable to send it to you ;-)
[12:33] <sn00p> ipfw, find it?
[12:33] <keithg> andi5:  Ha ha ha.
[12:35] <andi5> keithg: http://support.wdc.com/download/?cxml=n&pid=999&swid=2, what about the zip version?
[12:35] <sn00p> Where do I change the file extensions in firefox?
[12:35] <keithg> andi5:  Maybe if I describe my troubles with it to you, then you might be able to give me some advice.  :)  Well, when I try to install dapper, or breezy to the drive, during the formatting stage it freezes up at varied percentages, and doesn't go any farther.
[12:35] <keithg> andi5:  The zip is just a compressed .exe
[12:35] <ipfw> sn00p: not right off hand, checked normal prefs, and the about:config ... I'm thinking its in a .mozilla/ pref file somewhere though
[12:35] <Hentai_Jeff> is there a way to set up if I want to use the Gnome, KDE, or XFCE desktops each time?
[12:35] <bootlick> Is there a ctrl-alt-delete command somewhere in ubuntu to stop a frozen application?
[12:35] <andi5> keithg: arg, that way round :(
[12:36] <sn00p> ipfw i'm thinking that tto
[12:36] <sn00p> too
[12:36] <clement_lefebvre> bootlick: xkill
[12:36] <hollerith> bootlick:Force Quit on the panel
[12:36] <skippy81> bootlick, is everything frozen or just the application?
[12:36] <bootlick> Just the application
[12:36] <ipfw> sn00p: might find a ff (firefox) chan, and ask, they might know off the top of their heads
[12:36] <nickrud> Hentai_Jeff, in the login screen, choose what desktop you want to use, then it'll ask if you want it to be the default
[12:36] <ipfw> sn00p: I use mplayer, and mozplugger, it makes the mods for me
[12:36] <Hentai_Jeff> I only get gnome or terminal
[12:37] <clement_lefebvre> Hentai_Jeff, it's in the Session menu in GDM.
[12:37] <sn00p> ipfw, weird
[12:37] <reid> anyone one know what SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO) is???????????
[12:37] <skippy81> bootlick you could switch to another terminal and find the process with "top" or "ps", then type "kill processid" where process id is the PID of the thing you want to kill
[12:37] <bootlick> Okay,
[12:37] <Hentai_Jeff> is there a way to install KDE and XFCE to use them?
[12:37] <ipfw> sn00p: the "easyubuntu" should setup mozilla/firefox for you also
[12:37] <clement_lefebvre> Hentai_Jeff, to install KDE or XFCE install packages kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <ipfw> !easyubuntu
[12:37] <ubotu> easyubuntu is, like, an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[12:37] <nickrud> Hentai_Jeff, if you have the kubuntu-desktop & xubuntu-desktop installed, they should be choices there
[12:37] <bootlick> i thought mabye there was a graphical way, but that will work,
[12:37] <Hentai_Jeff> with apt get I take it
[12:37] <bootlick> only problem its in the middle of an install] 
[12:37] <clement_lefebvre> Hentai_Jeff, yep
[12:37] <bootlick> flashplugin-nonfree
[12:37] <Hentai_Jeff> k thanks
[12:37] <sn00p> ipfw well it stills says I need windows media player
[12:38] <hollerith> Bootlick: Add to Panel Force Quit applet - its point and drool
[12:38] <reid> does anyone know what SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO) is??
[12:38] <xpc> orkut pls.
[12:38] <clement_lefebvre> sn00p, did you install realplayer and other dirty stuff ?
[12:38] <bootlick> Hollerith, add to which panel?
[12:38] <ipfw> sn00p: if its a wmv file, you might need "windows codecs" in order for media players to work with it
[12:38] <xpc> fferencpomeisl@gmail.com
[12:38] <xpc> orkut pls.
[12:38] <xpc> :D:D
[12:38] <xpc> ohh
[12:38] <xpc> not
[12:38] <xpc> ferencpomeisl@gmail.com
[12:38] <xpc> :Ddd
[12:38] <clement_lefebvre> sn00p, check the Restricted page on the Ubuntu wiki.
[12:38] <mwe> reid: yes somewhat
[12:38] <ipfw> !restricted-formats
[12:38] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ipfw
[12:38] <hollerith> I assume Gnome (I just came in)
[12:38] <ipfw> darn
[12:38] <clement_lefebvre> !restricted
[12:38] <Allz-i-> hello is ther a utorrent -> torrent clint for linux
[12:38] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:38] <reid> mwe what package is it in???
[12:38] <skippy81> bootlick, right click on the top panel and select "add to panel" from there select the force quit button and it will be added
[12:38] <ipfw> clement_lefebvre: thanks
[12:39] <clement_lefebvre> no pb
[12:39] <d00by> can anybody help me with installing madwifi
[12:39] <hollerith> Top of the screen menu - right -click it add to panel Force Quit
[12:39] <tristanmike> how would I go about looking into my link speed and duplex for my network adapters ?
[12:39] <lee_> !ati
[12:39] <ubotu> [ati]  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[12:39] <bootlick> Thanks Hollerith
[12:39] <xpc> van valakinek orkut meghvja??????????
[12:39] <hollerith> Force Quit applet zaps unresponsive windows
[12:39] <xpc> (hungary)
[12:39] <xpc> PLS:
[12:39] <sn00p> clement_lefebvre, link?
[12:39] <hollerith> np
[12:39] <clement_lefebvre> !restricted
[12:39] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:39] <Allz-i-> hello sssomeone knowz ?
[12:39] <mwe> reid: one of the sdl packages
[12:39] <awesometaylor> d00by: did you have a problem compiling it?
[12:39] <lee_> !matrox
[12:39] <ubotu> lee_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:39] <mwe> reid: libsdl1.2debian I think
[12:39] <xpc> !google orkut
[12:40] <ubotu> xpc: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:40] <clement_lefebvre> sn00p, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:40] <xpc> !google ubuntu%20draper
[12:40] <Allz-i-> !utorrent
[12:40] <ubotu> xpc: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:40] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Allz-i-
[12:40] <d00by> i dont know, i think i am going to reinstall ubuntu complete
[12:40] <d00by> its beingf stupid
[12:40] <mwe> reid: what is complaining?
[12:40] <andi5> keithg: maybe you can run badblocks?
[12:40] <jadaz87> hello
[12:41] <skippy81> d00by:  whats the problem?
[12:41] <l_r> are there any chances to get a matrox g400 work under xorg 7.0?
[12:41] <moparfan90> how do i mount a file on my desktop so it looks like its a cd/dvd drive??
[12:41] <keithg> andi5:  I did some reading about that, but couldn't really figure out how to get it working right.
[12:41] <hollerith> anybody know how to correct a package/source list (unsure)?
[12:41] <reid> I have libsdl1.2debian installe mwe
[12:41] <xpc> andi5, do you speak hungary
[12:41] <xpc> ???????
[12:41] <d00by> its having trouble doing make clean, make install, and make
[12:41] <mwe> reid: what is complaining?
[12:41] <Allz-i-> !torrent
[12:41] <hollerith> when I try w32codecs it fails because of a 404
[12:41] <reid> mwe when i use the scons command
[12:41] <andi5> keithg: manpage says, call it via e2fsck (-c)
[12:41] <andi5> xpc: not really
[12:41] <xpc> ok
[12:41] <d00by> skippy81, says some files cant be found
[12:41] <hollerith> I can find the file it wants myself
[12:41] <andi5> xpc: should i?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> xpc: #ubuntu-hu
[12:42] <pvangarde> can anyone help me with my kernel compiling problem?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> xpc: join that channel for hungary please
[12:42] <tristanmike> how would I go about looking into my link speed and duplex for my network adapters ?
[12:42] <lee_> !gateway
[12:42] <xpc> gnomefreak,  * [xpc]  #ubuntu #ubuntu-hu
[12:42] <ubotu> lee_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:42] <Kyral> pvangarde: what prblem
[12:42] <skippy81> d00by:  in what context - are you seaching for them? or is it an error message?
[12:42] <lee_> !potato
[12:42] <ubotu> lee_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:42] <xpc> thank you
[12:42] <moparfan90> how do i mount a file on my desktop so it looks like its a cd/dvd drive??
[12:42] <xpc> gnomefreak, i need orkut
[12:42] <mwe> reid: oh
[12:42] <xpc> http://orkut.com
[12:42] <tristanmike> lee_: please stop teasing the bot
[12:42] <d00by> error message
[12:42] <reid> mwe think I should try installing all??
[12:42] <pvangarde> Kyral: I get an error after it starts compiling
[12:43] <xpc> you help me??
[12:43] <hollerith> http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/
[12:43] <clement_lefebvre> moparfan90, what do you mean exactly ?
[12:43] <lee_> tristanmike: I'm flirting with it gimmie a break :-oooo
[12:43] <Kyral> pvangarde: you are gonna have to be a little more discriptive
[12:43] <pvangarde> Kyral: when it gets to compiling a usb module
[12:43] <d00by> skippy81, it says / /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory
[12:43] <hollerith> the file name is wrong how do I correc the package?
[12:43] <moparfan90> i want to make a file a virual cd/dvd drive
[12:43] <keithg> andi5:  It's giving me a error that goes something like "Couldn't find ex2 superblock, trying backup blocks...  e2fsck:  Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda"
[12:43] <clement_lefebvre> moparfan90, is it an ISO file ?
[12:43] <hollerith> is it a script?
[12:43] <tristanmike> lee_: "/msg ubotu <flirt>" and have a private one on one encounter ;)
[12:43] <tomorrowlab> I need help, I was running a program (one I wrote) that uses glx, now everthing worked fine 5 min ago, but then I restarted and now I get the following error: freeglut (./particle): OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'   for reference particle is my program
[12:43] <pvangarde> Kyral: the module is for a usb network IEEE adapter
[12:43] <moparfan90> no
[12:43] <d00by> skippy81, and then /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[12:43] <skippy81> d00by:  ok, but wen is that error message shown? are you trying to compile a program
[12:43] <mwe> reid: well the scons package should install the dependencies or it's broken
[12:44] <clement_lefebvre> moparfan90, what kind of file is it ?
[12:44] <Kyral> pvangarde: yes yes, but what exaclty is the error?
[12:44] <skippy81> oh i see, does it say that at boot up d00by?
[12:44] <d00by> skippy81: i am trying to install madwifi which is becoming a pain
[12:44] <hollerith> this the breezy-backports I think
[12:44] <moparfan90> .exe
[12:44] <moparfan90> windows file
[12:44] <andi5> keithg: oh, then mke2fs with -c ;-) read the manpage about doubling the parameter
[12:44] <Kyral> pvangarde: you may want to try compiling agan and droppping the output into Pastebin
[12:44] <pvangarde> Kyral: i'm waiting to get it again, i removed the module from the configuration
[12:44] <d00by> skippy81, it does it when i do make, make install, and make clean
[12:44] <awesometaylor> d00by: you need to install the kernel headers and source before you can compile madwifi
[12:44] <skippy81> d00by:  "sudo apt-get build-essential"
[12:44] <mwe> reid: what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> skippy81: install
[12:44] <andi5> keithg: assuming that your partition table is ready-to-use
[12:44] <hollerith> I imagine everyone looking for w32codecs is just getting this pkg error right now
[12:44] <clement_lefebvre> moparfan90, you have an exe file.. and you want to do what with it ?
[12:44] <pvangarde> Kyral: okay, thanks
[12:44] <Kyral> pvangarde: np
[12:45] <reid> mwe I am trying to install a program from source
[12:45] <sn00p> How do I add the non-free plugin
[12:45] <sn00p> repository I mean
[12:45] <sn00p> whats the link
[12:45] <skippy81> d00by:  "sudo apt-get install build-essential" sorry :) thx gnomefreak :0
[12:45] <keithg> andi5:  Thank you very much, I have been trying to figure out what to do in this case all last night, and ever since I awoke today.  :)
[12:45] <Kyral> pvangarde: and don't be surprised if I can't help you. I'm good, but the Kernel is beyond my reach right now :P
, i want to mount it so that programs think its a cd/dvd drive with a file in it
[12:45] <gnomefreak> skippy81: ;)
[12:45] <moparfan90> i know it possible.. but i forgot how to doit
[12:45] <mwe> reid: doesn't it come with a README file that says what it needs? try installing libsdl1.2debian-all
[12:45] <andi5> keithg: :D
[12:45] <d00by> skippy81, blah i already started updagrade process and i cant use root term for apt-get
[12:45] <Kyral> pvangarde: as in understanding the code for it
[12:45] <kkathman> has anyone tried Opera with Dapper?
[12:45] <clement_lefebvre> moparfan90, you want programs to think that your exe file is on the CD ?
[12:45] <pvangarde> Kyral: well, if the error was descriptive i'd probably be able to fix it, but make just reported Error 2
[12:46] <moparfan90> yup
[12:46] <gnomefreak> moparfan90: wine will help you with .exe files
[12:46] <pvangarde> Kyral: and then 'leaving ...;
[12:46] <reid> mwe libsdl1.2debian-all is already the newest version.
[12:46] <d00by> is there anyway to do like a system restore?
[12:46] <skybox> mwe, sorry to bother you, my keyboard layout is set to "swedish" but for some reason my <> button/tags won't work with that layout, evrything else works ega usa, any ideas?
[12:46] <pvangarde> Kyral: if i get it again, ill paste it
[12:46] <reid> mwe let me show you the deps
[12:46] <moparfan90> all i need to do is mount it as a cd
[12:46] <hollerith> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:46] <Kyral> pvangarde: yup
[12:46] <skippy81> d00by:  oh ok, well when you next attempt to build something, remember you will need the build-essential package, and probably the kernel headers to match your kernel d00by - these packages can be found with synaptic
[12:46] <tomorrowlab> anyone want to take a crack at my glx problem?
[12:46] <clement_lefebvre> moparfan90, linux uses the same filesystem for all devices.. whether your file is physically on the CD or not is the same for all programs..
[12:46] <dou213> what is better: easyubuntu or automatix?
[12:46] <hollerith> its a simple case of the file having a different name
[12:46] <skippy81> !automatix
[12:46] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[12:47] <mwe> skybox: not really. try running xev to see if it gives you a clue
[12:47] <d00by> skippy81, i have been able to do make and make install before though
[12:47] <moparfan90> oo
[12:47] <moparfan90> ok
[12:47] <reid> Get latest CEGUI (0.4) with OpenGL renderer; SDL packages (SDL, SDL_image, SDL_ttf) mwe
[12:47] <d00by> skippy81, this isn't the first time i have tried to build
[12:47] <mwe> reid: doesn't it come with a README file that says what it needs?
[12:47] <skippy81> dou213:  automatix is contraversial at the moment, stick with easyUbuntu
[12:47] <mwe> reid: oh
[12:47] <bootlick> EasyUbuntu stalled out on me just now
[12:47] <roostishaw> anyone in here link enough to give me a google spreadsheets invite?  :D
[12:47] <reid> mwe the readme file is outdated- this is from a forum
[12:47] <mwe> reid: looks like it might be missing sdl ttf packages
[12:47] <hollerith> where do these packages live and can I interrupt an install long enough to correct the path?
[12:48] <mwe> reid: libsdl-ttf1.2-dev maybe
[12:48] <skippy81> d00by:  in that case you must have had build-essential allready, but not the kernel-headers
[12:48] <hollerith> or am I going the wrong way about this?
[12:48] <natea> how would i remove all the symlinks in a directory?
[12:48] <vincenz> Hello, does anyone know how to make the system bell use a soundfile instead?/?
[12:48] <andi5> skybox: there are several swedish layouts, check system->settings->keyboard->layout->add, maybe some other fits you better
[12:48] <Matthewv> btw mwe, i changed the ati factoid
[12:48] <d00by> skippy81, where do i download kernal-headers? apt-get install kernal-headers?
[12:48] <vincenz> I don't have a pcspeaker (lappy)
[12:48] <mwe> reid: you probably also need libsdl1.2-dev
[12:48] <skippy81> d00by:  kernel-headers to match your kernel are always needed to install modules - modules are customised for your kernel
[12:48] <hollerith> symlinks removed using rm
[12:48] <natea> hollerith, there are a lot of them
[12:48] <mwe> Matthewv: good
[12:48] <skippy81> d00by:  the easiest way is to type "uname -r" to get your kernel version
[12:48] <natea> and i'd rather not have to remove them individually
[12:48] <roostishaw> anyone in here *nice enough to give me a google spreadsheets invite?  :D
[12:49] <keithg> andi5:  Do you believe this will fix my troubles?  Or will I have to do something else with the results it gives me?  (I don't know all that much about these sorts of things)
[12:49] <skippy81> d00by: then search synaptic for the correct kernel headers package
[12:49] <tomorrowlab> anyone want to help me out with my glx problem?
[12:49] <d00by> kk
[12:49] <mwe> reid: in general you need the -dev packages if you're going to compile things
[12:49] <hollerith> you could pipe the list to a file
[12:49] <clement_lefebvre> natea: I suppose you'll have to code that with shell programming..
[12:49] <zach> hello how can i make skippy run all the time....
[12:49] <reid> libsdl1.2-dev is already the newest version. mwe
[12:49] <hollerith> and add the rm if they don't have some commonality
[12:49] <andi5> keithg: try it, me neigher
[12:49] <skippy81> zach:  what is skippy :)
[12:49] <mwe> reid: libsdl-ttf1.2-dev maybe
[12:49] <zach> an expose like window switcher
[12:50] <tristanmike> how would I go about looking into my link speed and duplex for my network adapters ?
[12:50] <hollerith> some ...er something .. mathchable quality
[12:50] <skippy81> zach do you normall have to start it from a terminal or an icon? and then it works the rest of the session?
[12:50] <hollerith> some matchable quality
[12:50] <asdx> hey, i burned the ubuntu 6 iso and dosn't boot on my machine
[12:50] <Matthewv> zach, maybe make it start at startup?
[12:50] <asdx> what can be wrong?
[12:50] <zach> terminal
[12:50] <clement_lefebvre> asdx : did you check the md5 ?
[12:50] <skippy81> zack you can just add it under system, prefs, session as an autorun
[12:50] <zach> i got it
[12:51] <asdx> clement_lefebvre: no
[12:51] <mwe> hollerith: search for bandwidth in synaptic. there are some monitors
[12:51] <hollerith> that way you can back out the change when it all goes pete tong
[12:51] <zach> Yes! i relized that later on... i did the same for gdesklets lol
[12:51] <clement_lefebvre> asdx : here you go :)
[12:51] <roostishaw> anyone, how do I make a shortcut on the desktop that has an icon, but no text?
[12:51] <asdx> clement_lefebvre: k
[12:51] <zach> anybody have luck installing splashy?
[12:51] <hollerith> monitors for what?
[12:51] <mwe> roostishaw: cant you just leave the text empty?
[12:51] <clement_lefebvre> asdx : if the md5 is correct, it could be badly burnt.. in this case go for the media check at boot menu.
[12:51] <andi5> mwe: no
[12:51] <hollerith> mwe:sorry monitors for what?
[12:52] <reid> mwe i will try
[12:52] <skippy81> roostishaw:  give it a name beginning with .
[12:52] <skippy81> roostishaw:  call it .icon for instance
[12:52] <vincenz> Is there anyway to fake a pc-speaker and instead having the laptop play a sound?
[12:52] <roostishaw> wme, no. not in gnome...
[12:52] <slackern> tristanmike: mii-tool and ethtool can show you information about duplex and such on your interfaces
[12:52] <andi5> roostishaw: name it " "
[12:52] <roostishaw> skippy81... ill try that now
[12:52] <skippy81> roostishaw:  its a bit of a hack though :)
[12:52] <hollerith> my issue is that the package for w32codecs fro breezy-backports is fubar
[12:52] <tristanmike> thank you very much slackern :)
[12:52] <AlbinoTux> Hi, does anyone know how to configure Windows XP boot.ini to load Ubuntu?
[12:52] <zach> how can i change splash screen in dapper?
[12:52] <hollerith> and I need to fix it so I can get w32codecs
[12:52] <skippy81> andi5s way is better actually roostishaw, i didnt think of that :)
[12:52] <abou> where is xinet.d located? what is it any way?
[12:52] <quamper> I had to replace my motherboard + processor since my processor died.. now I get Unable to find volume group "Ubuntu" while booting up. Haven't reinstalled just put in the same hard ware on the new mobo, Any ideas?
[12:53] <slackern> tristanmike: It should work as long as the adapters support it i belive, i have some old adapters that doesn't work but most will work fine.
[12:53] <AlbinoTux> I have both installed on different hard drives, and both boot, but I need to change my boot order.
[12:53] <andi5> abou: should be in /etc, it configures which services are spawned by xinetd daemon
[12:53] <mwe> hollerith: you're not on dapper?
[12:53] <hollerith> AlbinoTux:grub can boot that for you
[12:53] <roostishaw> andi5, is that with, or iwthout those quotes...?
[12:53] <johnnowak> abou: sudo find / -name inet.d
[12:53] <andi5> roostishaw: without
[12:53] <reid> mwe still need initvideo
[12:53] <clement_lefebvre> quamper: did you invert ide0 and ide1 ??
[12:53] <skippy81> quamper:  any chance your using a different IDE bus?
[12:53] <abou> johnnowak, I found inet.d but not xinet.d
[12:53] <hollerith> mwe:no - upgraded a coupe of days ago - trashed the box completely
[12:53] <hollerith> back to breezy
[12:53] <roostishaw> andi5, so just leave it blank?
[12:54] <mwe> reid: I dont know it should say what it needs in the documentation or it sucks
[12:54] <johnnowak> ablyss: find / -name xinet.d then :)
[12:54] <stevejesus> anybody wanna wathc me and an ubuntu CD get in on on my cam?
[12:54] <andi5> roostishaw: blank = "", a space = " "
[12:54] <skippy81> hollerith:  i can be a tough leap to dapper but it is worth it
[12:54] <AlbinoTux> hodgman, My only problem with that is it doesn't let me use the sd1 etc when I try and configure it.
[12:54] <johnnowak> abou: find / -name xinet.d then :)
[12:54] <mwe> hollerith: so you are on dapper, if you upgraded
[12:54] <reid> mwe it sucks lol
[12:54] <lechter> does anyone here have used eclipse+subversion intalled via apt-get?
[12:54] <alex_mayorga> hello there
[12:54] <sorush20> hi my gnome programs have lost the sense of direction.. on sound juicer I'm increasing the sound when I bring the scroll bar to close to the -ve sign..
[12:54] <hollerith> mwe:no it trashed the box I had to reinstall from cd
[12:54] <Dreamglider> any good software for wireless network cards like netstumbler(for windows)  ?
[12:54] <roostishaw> andi5, ok... just type 'roostishaw:  [what to put in the name field here] 
[12:54] <quamper> clement_lefebvre: I'm using Sata and i think the new motherboard numbers differnt than the previous. It's on 3rd master according to the bios.. i think before it was listed as sata1
[12:54] <hollerith> back to breezy
[12:54] <andi5> abou: what about $ dpkg -l xinetd ? ii or un?
[12:54] <asdx> clement_lefebvre: ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso: FAILED
[12:54] <asdx> :S
[12:54] <lechter> i'm getting a problem in diferent machines
[12:55] <mwe> hollerith: back to breezy ?!
[12:55] <asdx> do I have to download the file again?
[12:55] <nickrud> abou, inet or xinet, you probably don't use it for most things. They are ways of keeping daemons turned off except for when someone requests them. Most ubuntu deamons just run
[12:55] <hollerith> but I still have to get w32codecs and the package is
[12:55] <clement_lefebvre> asdx: yep :)
[12:55] <mwe> hollerith: why on earth?
[12:55] <asdx> :((((((((((
[12:55] <alex_mayorga> anyone would kindly help me get my laptop working again with 6.06?? it used to work just fine on 5.10 and now it's messed up
[12:55] <clement_lefebvre> asdx: always check the md5 before burning..
[12:55] <hollerith> because dapper wrecked my comp and breezy works
[12:55] <_jason> alex_mayorga: messed up how?
[12:55] <mwe> alex_mayorga: you gotta provide more detail
[12:55] <asdx> clement_lefebvre: ok
[12:55] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  be a bit more specific mate, whats messed up
[12:55] <Matthewv> alex_mayorga, what exactly do you mean by messed up?
[12:55] <andi5> roostishaw: hm, create a starter with label, then click it, press F2, Home, Shift-End, Delete, Space, Enter ;-)
[12:55] <clement_lefebvre> asdx: and always check the media before installing. You'll save precious time.
[12:56] <alex_mayorga> it's an HP Pavilion N5495
[12:56] <Matthewv> hehehe lol :)
[12:56] <abou> andi5, Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[12:56] <mwe> hollerith: I see. you don't suppose it's fixable?
[12:56] <asdx> clement_lefebvre: thx for the help btw
[12:56] <alex_mayorga> looks like the xserver config  is messed up
[12:56] <clement_lefebvre> asdx: no pb.
[12:56] <asdx> kk
[12:56] <roostishaw> andi5, thx! (sorry about the misunderstanding)
[12:56] <Matthewv> morning pschulz01
[12:56] <hollerith> it was easier to reinstall - life is too short I'll wait for the true beta
[12:56] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from a terminal
[12:56] <pvangarde> Kyral: i did not get the usb error at that module since it isnt getting compiled this time around. I'll let you know if i get anything else! thanks though
[12:56] <inrelief> anybody have a list/site for good svg icons for the common applications (firefox, thunderbird, gimp, xchat, gaim,e tc?)
[12:56] <Wyred> hi all, anyone know how to change a region 2 dvd to be accessed by xine?
[12:56] <mwe> hollerith: true beta ?!
[12:56] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: hello again
[12:56] <richiefrich> to install the kernel-sources... whats the package called cause... linux-sources is not it ?
[12:56] <Kyral> pvangarde: Good to hear it
[12:57] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  hello :)
[12:57] <mwe> hollerith: dapper final is released
[12:57] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  can you get into xwindows?
[12:57] <johnnowak> mwe:some people can't be helped....
[12:57] <richiefrich> ubuntu-sources ?
[12:57] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: no
[12:57] <clement_lefebvre> richiefrich, it's in build-essentials I think.. isn't it ? (not sure)
[12:57] <andi5> abou: so do you have xinetd installed or not?
[12:57] <hollerith> mwe: yes on 1st June I 'upgraded' to it
[12:57] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: I've already tried vesa and vga without luck
[12:57] <quamper> used to be listed as SATA1 only my old motherboard my new one lists it as Third IDE Master.. 1,2 (IDE) 3,4(SATA) on the new board
[12:57] <richiefrich> clement_lefebvre idk
[12:57] <reid> mwe im just gonna install SDL from source
[12:57] <mwe> hollerith: I see
[12:57] <hollerith> it removed most of the contents of my hard disk - thanks
[12:58] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  ok mate, what error message does it give when it fails to load x
[12:58] <mwe> reid: good luck
[12:58] <sn00p> How do I list what packages I have installed using dpkg?
[12:58] <slackern> dpkg -l
[12:58] <dou213> dpkg -l?
[12:58] <hollerith> anyway - that's life -how do I fix this package?
[12:58] <abou> is "strings" a program? if yes how can I install it?
[12:58] <asdx> clement_lefebvre: e219e8949f1a743f1938c7c611308838 *ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso.md5
[12:58] <mwe> reid: personally I'd google for the function first and see if I could find the ubuntu package
[12:58] <asdx> clement_lefebvre: this time it did match :)
[12:58] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: do you want me make it fail with vesa or vga?
[12:58] <abou> apparently it search for strings in binary files
[12:58] <Wyred> got xinetd ui etc installed it plays a music DVD but won't play a film
[12:58] <sorush20> are there anyprogrsm that allow cd audio rip while playing it back.. ?
[12:59] <hollerith> doesn't anybody want to be able to get w32codecs on Breezy?
[12:59] <abou> andi5, it seems it's not installed
[12:59] <rockz> when i install nvidia driver my resolution become 800x600 but i use 1024x768, if a change in xorg the driver to nv my resolution become 1024x768 again... can anyone help me to fix this?
[12:59] <johnnowak> hollerith: that's not life. if it blew away files on your drive it should've have, it's a bug, and a big one.
[12:59] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: hadn't memorized erros just yet
[12:59] <mwe> hollerith: just get the .deb and sudo dpkg -i it
[12:59] <andi5> abou: no xinetd, not xinetd.conf, sounds reasonable, does not it :D
[12:59] <clement_lefebvre> asdx: hmm... it's different than the md5 I remembered.. hold on. Did you check that it matches the md5 info on the FTP ?
[12:59] <Matthewv> abou, i don't think so.... a string is just a bunch of characters :)
[12:59] <sn00p> How do I configure file extentions in firefox?
[12:59] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  what graphics card does it have ?
[12:59] <Wyred> hollerith, you can just use synaptic
[12:59] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  sorry i know you told me yesterday, but i have a small memory and lots of problems :)
[12:59] <hollerith> johnnovak:that's what I thought
[01:00] <clement_lefebvre> asdx: you need to run md5 on the iso file, not on the md5 itself :)
[01:00] <mp3guy> does anyone here know how to setup LIRC?
[01:00] <abou> Matthewv, what is this command supposed to do? # strings /usr/sbin/swat | grep "/swat"
[01:00] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: intel 830MG chipset
[01:00] <Daemonic> hmm.. where can I get mplayer?
[01:00] <hollerith> my own fault for not backing up
[01:00] <abou> Matthewv, I think it to pull the strings from the file /usr/sbin/swat and grep it for /swat
[01:00] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  did we try the i810 driver?
[01:00] <Matthewv> abou, yep, that'd be about right
[01:00] <mwe> abou: the strings command extracts strings from a file.|grep prints result containg the expression given as argument
[01:00] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: negative
[01:01] <andi5> Daemonic: it is in multiverse
[01:01] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: is that the right ne
[01:01] <clement_lefebvre> asdx: it should be e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e
[01:01] <quamper> is there a way to change where it is looking when it boots since this motherboard references it different?
[01:01] <Dreamglider> any good software for wireless network cards like netstumbler(for windows)  ?
[01:01] <Daemonic> andi5: how do I enable that repo?
[01:01] <hollerith> but hey can I interrupt a dpkg and coorect the package it downloads?
[01:01] <Matthewv> anyone know anything about krgb printing ?
[01:01] <abou> mwe, how can I install the strings program/command, sudo apt-get install strings , didn't get anything
[01:01] <sn00p> what player do you guys use to view movies in firefox?
[01:01] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  ok i suggest you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and try the i810 driver
[01:02] <Matthewv> sn00p, take your pick :)
[01:02] <slackern> quamper: maybe /etc/fstab if you need to change devices or something
[01:02] <sn00p> I tried totem
[01:02] <_jason> sn00p: mplayer plug-in is nice
[01:02] <johnnowak> Dreamglider: Many of us have no idea what netstumbler is. What do you want to do?
[01:02] <Matthewv> sn00p, i use mplayer
[01:02] <clement_lefebvre> sn00p: follow the Restricted page on the Ubuntu wiki, install stuff step by step.
[01:02] <mwe> abou: install binutils. but I suppose they are
[01:02] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  also try to get your monitor settings right - do you know the normal refresh rate and resolution of your monitor
[01:02] <Matthewv> sn00p, sudo apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer
[01:03] <maddy> upgrade
[01:03] <andi5> !tell Daemonic about repos
[01:03] <quamper> slackern: can i do that in the console while it's booting after it errors or do i need to use a live cd to do that
[01:03] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: k, i've chosed that one
[01:03] <Matthewv> brb
[01:03] <mwe> abou: learn how to use apt-file. it will tell what package provides a file
[01:03] <hollerith> anyone know where the packages get dumped before install?
[01:03] <Wyred> /tmp/
[01:03] <mwe> hollerith: /var/cache/apt
[01:03] <inazad_> Hi there, I think I had some problems during the update from Breezy to Dapper.. What can I do to fix it or to do the update again ?
[01:03] <hollerith> so I could frig one?
[01:03] <Tobberoth> Guys, I just installed uim, but pressing shift+space doesn't do anything in gedit
[01:03] <Wyred> ohh, still thinking i'm on other os
[01:03] <johnnowak> Wyred: /tmp/ ?
[01:04] <Dreamglider> johnnowak, use wireless network, see SSID's MAC's and stuff
[01:04] <mwe> hollerith: /var/cache/apt/archives actually
[01:04] <slackern> quamper: You might need to go from the livecd to change the fstab, it depends on how far it gets while booting otherwise, but you will need a terminal with some texteditor at the least.
[01:04] <sn00p> it cant find mplayer  mozilla-mplayer
[01:04] <abou> mwe, thanks, binutils is the answer, I tried  apt-cache search strings, but it returned too much results
[01:04] <hollerith> mwe:thx
[01:04] <clement_lefebvre> sn00p: did you activate multiverse and universe ??
[01:04] <mwe> abou: use apt-file next time
[01:04] <nickrud> sn00p, definitely sources problems. You should paste /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:04] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: lcd 1400x1050
[01:04] <mwe> abou: if youre looking for a particular file
[01:04] <Dreamglider> with a GUI, im tired of terminal..
[01:05] <johnnowak> Dreamglider: Do you know if your wireless card is support?
[01:05] <abou> mwe, it couldn't find the command apt-file ...
[01:05] <Tobberoth> Anyone who has experience with uim?
[01:05] <mwe> abou: install it
[01:05] <Dreamglider> johnnowak, no!
[01:05] <mwe> sudo aptitude install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[01:05] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  since its lcd you can probably get away with autoconfig of the monitor
[01:05] <dou213> for VLC: "sudo apt-get install gnome-vlc" or only vlc?
[01:05] <`Boo`> hey, how can i move files as root in the file browser
[01:05] <Dreamglider> johnnowak, it's a wireless USB adaptor
[01:05] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: Enter an identifier for your video card??
[01:05] <skippy81> dou213 gnome-vlc is deprecated, just get vlc
[01:05] <johnnowak> Dreamglider: *cringe*
[01:05] <sn00p> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15224
[01:06] <dou213> and what's with all the other plugins for vlc?
[01:06] <andi5> `Boo`: start it with $ sudo nautilus
[01:06] <dou213> them too?
[01:06] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  its just a name, can be anything
[01:06] <Dreamglider> johnnowak, !!
[01:06] <clement_lefebvre> `Boo`, I suppose you could start the file explorer as root.. sudo nautilus
[01:06] <ankar> anyone got 3d acceleration on ati radeon 9100 hp notebook?
[01:06] <mwe> don't run gui apps with sudo!
[01:06] <mwe> !gksudo
[01:06] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run qt applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[01:06] <skippy81> just hit enter for defaults from now on alex_mayorga - you can always reconfigure again if it doesnt work
[01:06] <quamper> slackern: ok trying that now not sure exactly what i'm looking for.. I'll see if that does it though
[01:06] <johnnowak> Dreamglider: What model is it?
[01:06] <inrelief> how do y'all feel about the pixel imaging editor vs the gimp?
[01:06] <nickrud> sn00p, oh, those are just toooooo bad :0
[01:06] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  at this point i normally just press enter about 20 times :D
[01:06] <nickrud> sn00p, dapper?
[01:06] <Matthewv> !gksu
[01:06] <ankar> pavilion zv5000
[01:06] <ubotu> Matthewv: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:07] <sn00p> nickrud, yep
[01:07] <slackern> quamper: it should perhaps be something like sda1 has changed to sdb1 or something like that.
[01:07] <ankar> zv5330
[01:07] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: ok will do
[01:07] <Dreamglider> johnnowak, XWL-11guzx
[01:07] <giGo> can anyone shed some light on getting an ati 9200 graphics card up to speed in Dapper?
[01:07] <skippy81> !gksudo
[01:07] <slackern> quamper: what kind of changes did you apply when the problems arose?
[01:07] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run qt applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[01:07] <hollerith> ok I found the package -its a binary file
[01:07] <timmy_> can anyone help me with a java problem, im a noob
[01:07] <Dreamglider> johnnowak, X-Micro wlan 11g usb adaptor
[01:07] <inrelief> timmy_, perhaps, what's the problem?
[01:07] <mwe> giGo: I think the fgrlx driver wont work with that
[01:07] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, ask
[01:07] <mwe> !ati
[01:07] <ubotu> hmm... ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[01:07] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: there were 18 enters and went in autodetect
[01:07] <skippy81> timmy_ have you read the restircted formats java guide
[01:07] <timmy_> ?
[01:07] <ucpalx> !nsv
[01:07] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ucpalx
[01:07] <timmy_> its installed
[01:08] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: everything is blank again
[01:08] <andi5> mwe: i am sorry... i have always had the feeling, gksudo is a damn old undeveloped gtk1 proggie..... *knees down*
[01:08] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, what's the problem ?
[01:08] <pyc> does anybody know some servers, that host third party deb files?
[01:08] <nickrud> sn00p, see !universe below, replace your sources with the ones listed on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for dapper
[01:08] <nickrud> !universe
[01:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:08] <timmy_> but doesent work in browser, need plugin? (sorry, noob)
[01:08] <hollerith> any clues on installing w32codecs without dpkg?
[01:08] <mwe> andi5: huh? I don't think it's gtk1
[01:08] <skippy81> ok alex_mayorga, so lets get this right - you finished the dpgk-reconfigure tool, then what did you do?
[01:08] <quamper> slackern: yeah i think it changed from sda1 to idc1 or something like that.. I don't know yet
[01:08] <ankar> I'd compiled the drivers.... but nothing.... just 2d acceleration
[01:08] <markdrago> anyone have any links that describe how to set up dapper as a xen guest (domU) ?
[01:08] <johnnowak> Dreamglider: It seems it should be supported.
[01:09] <timmy_> im usin dapper
[01:09] <Blue89> what do I change DISPLAY to if I want my x client to appear on a remote server with a known ip address?
[01:09] <quamper> slackern: the new motherboard lists them differently i guess
[01:09] <slackern> quamper: ahh when you boot the livecd you should be able to see also what it has changed too.
[01:09] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, install sun-java5-plugin
[01:09] <johnnowak> Does anyone know if the zd1211 wireless module is compiled in by default?
[01:09] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[01:09] <slackern> quamper: when/then
[01:09] <gnuts> hello i'm having trouble with something I think should be easy, what is the correct fstab entry for /dev/hdb1 ext3?
[01:09] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: last option was to autodetect display, choosed yes
[01:09] <struggler> Can someone explain the following postfix error: un  6 17:56:52 simon postfix/smtpd[21020] : fatal: non-null host address bits in "192.168.1.0/8", perhaps you should use "192.0.0.0/8" instead...using dapper
[01:09] <andi5> mwe: no, but in my memories it has always been :) .... maybe i mistake it for sth else
[01:09] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  and let me know what error mesages you get
[01:09] <abou> mwe, in the usage examples I found online, apt-file search /path/to/some.file... what is it trying to do, search for a file that I already know where it is?
[01:09] <quamper> slackern: and thats what i change in the fstab then correct?
[01:09] <timmy_> you want me to type that in terminal?
[01:09] <slackern> quamper: yes
[01:09] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, yep
[01:09] <timmy_> ok
[01:09] <zach> does anyone use gdesklets starerbar?
[01:09] <slackern> quamper: grub is still working too?
[01:09] <abou> mwe, how can I get in which package a program called strings is?
[01:10] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, well... with apt-get and all..
[01:10] <mwe> andi5: I see. using sudo with gui apps can screw up your account perms though, like the factoid says
[01:10] <skippy81> zach:  no because gdesklets look bad with compiz :(
[01:10] <zach> say what?
[01:10] <timmy_> arg
[01:10] <zach> oh compiz ...xgl thing
[01:10] <slackern> quamper: otherwise you might have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst also to correctly reflect the changes, almost the same approach as with the fstab file.
[01:10] <judah> skippy81: and gdesklets is a sucky hack.
[01:10] <mwe> abou: apt-file search /usr/bin/strings
[01:10] <Dreamglider> johnnowak, thats good :) now what !
[01:10] <mwe> abou: it will return binutils
[01:10] <quamper> slackern: yeah grub is still working
[01:10] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, otherwise (if you're not familiar with APT) you can install it through Synaptic: System->Administration->Synaptic
[01:10] <zach> juda: do you have a better alternative
[01:11] <skippy81> judah:  yeah we need a decent solution for gnome :) something to kill Vista and OSX with :)
[01:11] <abou> mwe, but how did you know that it's in /usr/bin?
[01:11] <timmy_> i did that,
[01:11] <slackern> quamper: ahh ok, start with fstab and if thats not enough then maybe have a look at the menu.lst file.
[01:11] <Blue89> I have a windows x server with a projector and wireless keyboard and a linux client with a fast cpu, sounds like agood match to me.
[01:11] <andi5> mwe: because of $HOME not being corrected? if i really need gui with root, i have a sudo -i session open already :)
[01:11] <quamper> slackern: is there a command I can use to tell what it is listing the HD is now. used the live cd, but it put me at a command prompt since video drivers didn't work
[01:11] <mwe> abou: a) user program binaries always go to /usr/bin b) it was already installed
[01:11] <abou> mwe, is it just a guess, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin ... and a couple of other directories?
[01:11] <zach> judah: do you have a better alternative than gdesklets starterbar?
[01:11] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, you installed the sun-java5-plugin package ?
[01:11] <timmy_> i think so, ill check though
[01:11] <mwe> abou: you can apt-file strings|grep bin
[01:11] <slackern> quamper: 'sudo fdisk -l'
[01:11] <johnnowak> Dreamglider: Er... Assuming the modules is enabled by default (I'm not sure it is -- not on Ubuntu to test), it should be working! Hm... IRC is not the best way to do stuff like this. :) It's freaking loud in here...
[01:12] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, Synaptic will tell you if it's installed or not.
[01:12] <mwe> abou: apt-file search that is
[01:12] <timmy_> i know java works because limewire works
[01:12] <mwe> abou: you can apt-file search strings|grep bin
[01:12] <timmy_> im checkin
[01:12] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, limewire uses the JRE.. not the plugin..
[01:12] <slackern> quamper: that should list what partitions are available and also their names and the disks /dev/ location
[01:12] <timmy_> oops
[01:12] <timmy_> thankyou
[01:12] <abou> mwe,  apt-file search strings|grep bin, and apt-file strings|grep bin, give no output
[01:13] <timmy_> what do you want me to search for in synaptic
[01:13] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, sun-java5-plugin
[01:13] <mwe> andi5: it scrambles them because it's not clever about perms of files in the homedir and gksudo is more careful
[01:13] <stalefries> I have a question about ATI drivers. on the Wiki howto page, it says my card needs to be a radeon. It isn't. Is there a way I can get accelerated 3D/
[01:13] <quamper> slackern: that didn't list anything, is that because I'm on the live cd or does that mean there is another problem?
[01:13] <skippy81> abou:  you have to replace the words like "seach" and "strings" with your own
[01:13] <abou> mwe, even apt-file search /usr/bin/strings, didn't give any output.. something must be wrong
[01:13] <mwe> abou: did you sudo apt-file update?
[01:13] <abou> mwe, should I do sudo
[01:13] <timmy_> umm
[01:13] <johnnowak> Dreamglider: Look into http://zd1211.ath.cx/
[01:13] <giGo> mwe: is ther any thing else someone can do
[01:13] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X...
[01:13] <inrelief> anybody care to voice in on pixel v. gimp?
[01:14] <timmy_> its checked already, i did it earlier
[01:14] <mwe> abou: no
[01:14] <zach> anybody get splashy working with dapper?
[01:14] <abou> mwe, no.. sudo doesn't help neither
[01:14] <timmy_> bout 5 hrs ago
[01:14] <mwe> abou: it gives 25 results or more here
[01:14] <mwe> abou: did you sudo apt-file update?
[01:14] <stalefries> inrelief: never tried pixel
[01:14] <mwe> abou: did you sudo apt-file update?
[01:14] <johnnowak> Dreamglider: It includes install information.
[01:14] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, then you have some configuration to do to replace your default JVM and all...
[01:14] <dandandan> is there a way to do a text install on the ppc livecd rather than the install via expresso? the help at boot up does not list a text install being available..
[01:14] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  ok that bit isnt imporant, you need to know what went wrong technically, look down
[01:14] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, I suggest you follow the Restricted Formats guide from the Ubuntu Wiki.
[01:14] <clement_lefebvre> timmy_, follow the link below
[01:14] <slackern> quamper: hmm maybe you could try 'sudo lshw' that will list hardware in your computer
[01:14] <clement_lefebvre> !restricted
[01:14] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:15] <mwe> abou: not apt-get update, apt-_file_ update
[01:15] <timmy_> aight
[01:15] <dandandan> no?
[01:15] <`Boo`> wait, does cedega use wine, like all of the wine directories and stuff?
[01:15] <mwe> abou: did you run that?
[01:15] <grasshopper> Guys! anyone wanna teach me to use bittorrent?
[01:15] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: (EE) VESA(0): No matching mode
[01:15] <inrelief> stalefries....saw it on digg the other day, wondering if anybody had experience w/it, despite its odd liscensing
[01:15] <`Boo`> grasshopper: www.thepiratebay.org -> How do I download?
[01:15] <abou> mwe, I'm running it now... too much output, it's downloading stuff
[01:15] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[01:15] <mwe> grasshopper: hint: it comes with documentation
[01:15] <skippy81> alex_mayorga, are you sure you saved the changes from dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[01:16] <grasshopper> Boo: ok, thx
[01:16] <abou> mwe, ok ... much better now, thank you very much
[01:16] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: not sure, it went blank while probing configs I guess
[01:16] <`Boo`> grasshopper:   type the first letter or two of someones name in IRC then hit tab
[01:16] <`Boo`> no one types out everyones name ^_^
[01:16] <dandandan>  is there a way to do a text install on the livecd rather than the install via expresso? the help at boot up does not list a text install being available.
[01:16] <gnuts> lots going on, anyone tell me how to auto mount 2nd harddrive when it is formatted ext3? docs cover ntfs & vfat and I can't seem to translate
[01:17] <bobby> I'm having trouble installing gtkpod can some one help?
[01:17] <slackern> quamper: 'sudo lshw | grep /dev' might narrow it down
[01:17] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again, but dont use autodetect monitor.  Instead choose simple and tell it the size of your monitor
[01:17] <gnuts> bobby, how are you doing it?
[01:17] <clement_lefebvre> dandandan, I'm not sure. In all cases you can use the alternate CD.. text based install.
[01:17] <Daemonic> I installed mplayer and the xmms mplayer plugin.. when I go to watch a video stream I get audio but no mplayer video.
[01:17] <mwe> abou: if you wanna be smart you can apt-file search strings|grep '/bin\|/sbin'
[01:17] <grasshopper> Boo: ok, thx!
[01:18] <timmy_> ok, im gonna test
[01:18] <`Boo`> you're still doing it wrong ^_^
[01:18] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  by the way, when using the terminal, you can reuse commands you have typed before by using the up and down arrrow keys - so you dont have to keep typing the same commands
[01:18] <bobby> through a terminal but im geting a error cuase i do not have a c compiler
[01:18] <moparfan90> i have a VIA 8237 audio chip.. it has a thing for windows that turns the mic and input,, output into 5.1 sound card.. is there a linux driver that will do this?
[01:18] <grasshopper> Boo, its not easy with your squiggly bits
[01:18] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, i just installed flash-player but any flash objects i open don't play sound..
[01:18] <gnuts> have you tried synaptic? worked like a charm for me.
[01:18] <`Boo`>   ^_^
[01:18] <navarone> grasshopper: press the ` <next to "1" key> then B and press tab
[01:18] <Dreamglider> johnnowak, thanks mate i'll have a look at that
[01:19] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: redoing
[01:19] <clement_lefebvre> ] GoldenDragon, follow the Restricted Formats guide from the Ubuntu wiki.
[01:19] <bobby> no i just installed unbuntu today i have no idea what im doing
[01:19] <quamper> slackern: it didn't find any disk's .. i guess the hd could be bad, but i find it funny that it would boot grub and start to load ubuntu considering that's the only hd in the machine
[01:19] <] GoldenDragon> k.
[01:19] <timmy_> i love you guys who know what you are doing
[01:19] <johnnowak> Dreamglider: Alright man, good luck! This stuff isn't always easy at first. :)
[01:19] <andi5> `Boo`: you are the one that has chosen the name ;-)
[01:19] <grasshopper> `Boo`: hehe, got
[01:19] <timmy_> THANK YOU
[01:19] <bina> Hi, sorry, this may not be the place to ask, but I use ubuntu :)  Does any program in ubuntu play AACs from iTunes?
[01:19] <andrejkw> Is there any way to hide a window of an application by passing on some kind of a parameter?
[01:19] <slackern> quamper: hmm maybe it has some kind of exotic chipset/controller that it has problems loading?
[01:19] <mwe> abou: or apt-file search strings|grep '/bin/\|/sbin/' :)
[01:19] <johnnowak> bina: From the ITMS or just AAC files encoded by iTunes?
[01:19] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: memory for the video card in kB?
[01:19] <clement_lefebvre> bina, yes. follow the Restricted Formats guide from the Ubuntu wiki.
[01:20] <grasshopper> navarone: this is cool, thx
[01:20] <gnuts> ok, top menu bar System-> administration -> synaptic package manager
[01:20] <Dreamglider> johnnowak, one more thing pleas, i'm following the guide but 'MAKE' is a unknown command!!
[01:20] <grasshopper> `Boo`: is that better  :)
[01:20] <Dreamglider> so is make install ?
[01:20] <bina> johnnowak: from their store
[01:20] <johnnowak> Dreamglider: Oh heavens.
[01:20] <`Boo`> =D
[01:20] <bina> clement_lefebvre: thanks ill take a look
[01:20] <johnnowak> bina: You can't. Apple won't let you.
[01:20] <RandolphCarter> alex_mayorga: if you're doing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, you can leave the memory blank
[01:20] <clement_lefebvre> Dreamglider, sudo aptitude install build-essentials
[01:20] <keithg> andi5: This thing sure takes a looong time.  :)
[01:20] <quamper> slackern: i think it's a fairly common motherboard.. is there some list I can look to make sure it is compatible? it's an asus a8v-mx
[01:20] <mwe> Dreamglider: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:20] <andi5> keithg: sorry for that
[01:20] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: kernel framebuffer??
[01:20] <bobby> ok now what
[01:21] <mjr> bina, you must first decrypt them using some of the cracking tools around. This may be illegal to do in your jurisdiction. Thank Apple.
[01:21] <zach> Can anyone help me get Splashy workign with dapper?
[01:21] <RandolphCarter> alex_mayorga: no
[01:21] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  just say no
[01:21] <keithg> andi5:  No it's no problem, I am just trying to make mild conversation.
[01:21] <skippy81> it should be the default
[01:21] <`Boo`> hey, can anyone give me a quick rundown on how to install the mozilla activex control in cedega? i already have it downloaded.
[01:21] <KuLover> Anyone ever hear of this? I install Kubunu, it boots, goes through the ubuntu loading bar and finishes, then goes back to the kubuntu logo. Now about every ten minutes, it says restarting system log. If you've heard of this, please help ><
[01:21] <gnuts> settings -> repositories
[01:21] <bina> johnnowak: thats evil.  The only stuff I can find where you can buy it is iTunes or Napster.
[01:21] <WINBALL> :)
[01:21] <bobby> ok now
[01:22] <WINBALL> configure: error: Can not find "mono" in your PATH
[01:22] <andi5> keithg: pick a newb and guide him to ubuntu satisfaction ;-)
[01:22] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: xorg server modules?
[01:22] <gnuts> check the boxes for the ones that aren't
[01:22] <johnnowak> bina: That's the way it goes. DRM is shit. Try and buy CDs (without copy protection) or from sites that sell plain mp3s without DRM. They do exist, but they don't have the big artists. If this matters is up to you.
[01:22] <navarone> Hi FunnyLookinHat...what kind of hat is so funny? ,s>
[01:22] <`Boo`> KuLover: it looks like you have the wrong build, you have rebuntu
[01:22] <cycom> navarone: the RED kind!
[01:22] <navarone> ahh...the fedora
[01:22] <Daemonic> great. no way to watch streaming videos with xmms? I have the xmms-mplayer plugin installed and configured. I get audio but no video playback. can someone help?
[01:22] <grasshopper> `Boo`: is that site supposed to tutor me how to use bittorrent?
[01:22] <AK7> bina: there's been a non-DRM site in the news lately ;|
[01:22] <`Boo`> yeah
[01:22] <`Boo`> should
[01:22] <slackern> quamper: VIA K8M800/VIA VT8251  is the chipset/controller i've never used one of those chipsets in linux so im not sure about how the support is for those.
[01:23] <zach> how can i install java to play online games
[01:23] <andi5> Daemonic: xmms is for music, and the developers stress that
[01:23] <grasshopper> `Boo`: sorry, you talking to me?
[01:23] <slackern> quamper: googling a bit
[01:23] <KuLover> `Boo` I have Kubuntu for 64bit. Reason im asking here is because no one replied in #kununtu.
[01:23] <RandolphCarter> bina: try going straight to the record-label/distributors
[01:23] <clement_lefebvre> zach, follow the Restricted Formats guide from the Ubuntu wiki.
[01:23] <Wyred> zach, use synaptic install j2rem
[01:23] <bobby> ok now
[01:23] <RandolphCarter> bina: most of the labels that put out small stuff are pretty friendly
[01:23] <gnuts> close the window and click reload in the top left
[01:23] <bina> AK7: as in slashdot news or BBC?
[01:23] <gnuts> it'll down load for a bit
[01:23] <grasshopper> Can somone show me how to use bittorrent please?
[01:23] <johnnowak> zach: http://www.minds.nuim.ie/~voyager/blog/index.php?/archives/24-The-CORRECT-way-to-install-Sun-Java-on-DebianUbuntu.html
[01:23] <Daemonic> andi5: what should I use then to watch video streams? I have a .pls with the list of available streams. what program do I need to watch those streams from the .pls file?
[01:23] <AK7> I know it's on bbc, it probably is on shashdot too
[01:23] <johnnowak> grasshopper: No...
[01:24] <bobby> ok now
[01:24] <quamper> slackern: would using lvm make a difference?
[01:24] <KuLover> `Boo` Any idea what I could do?
[01:24] <andi5> Daemonic: hm, totem, xine, mplayer, realplayer, others, dunno :)
[01:24] <bina> RandolphCarter: well I just wanted to see what Cypress Hill are like :) i think they're on some big lable though :(
[01:24] <grasshopper> johnnowak: huh?  :(
[01:24] <navarone> grasshopper: do you have it installed?
[01:24] <FunnyLookinHat> navarone, lol
[01:24] <RandolphCarter> bina: ahh :P I guess it's tricky when you're only after a track or two
[01:24] <fredrich> how do i publish a cups printer to be seen by zeroconf?
[01:24] <Daemonic> andi5: I can use a text editor to view the location of each stream in the .pls and put the url in mplayer and it works fine.. but that's kind of annoying if I want another channel.
[01:24] <johnnowak> grasshopper: What do you mean? There are plenty of good sites out there on how to use bittorrent. It is a ubuntu-specific or linux-specific issue?
[01:24] <grasshopper> navarone: no,
[01:24] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: I guess it's better to put them all, right?
[01:25] <slackern> quamper: hmm reading a bit and there might be some problems with that chipset, and it might require a patch to the kernel to work, but not quite sure yet if it applies still or if it's something old. :)
[01:25] <gnuts> type 'gtkpod'
[01:25] <andi5> Daemonic: i forgot vlc
[01:25] <gnuts> it should show up on the screen
[01:25] <bobby> where
[01:25] <grasshopper> navarone: I want to download knoppix as bittorrent, but don' t know how
[01:25] <navarone> grasshopper type sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[01:25] <clement_lefebvre> grasshopper, you can find torrent clients in Applications->Add/Remove and search for torrent.
[01:25] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  all what?
[01:25] <voraistos> hey talking about bittorrent, is there a utorrent-like client ?
[01:25] <alex_mayorga> X.org server modules
[01:25] <gnuts> click in the box on the right, just to highlight a name then type 'gtkpod' it will take you there
[01:26] <grasshopper> navarone: so i need a client first, ok
[01:26] <bina> RandolphCarter: yeah, they should really make it easier, otherwise people won't have much choice but to turn to P2P if they're only looking for a track
[01:26] <keithg> grasshopper:  If you want to download knoppix via bittorrent, you would have to open the torrent file provided by knoppix website.
[01:26] <nipper> How can I clear the alternating cache on swap?
[01:26] <nickrud> grasshopper, drag a torrent to your desktop, then double-click it
[01:26] <Dreamglider> damn damn.
[01:26] <grasshopper> keithg: thx
[01:26] <navarone> grasshopper: that is correct <gives cookie>
[01:26] <skippy81> no just leave the deaults alex_mayorga
[01:26] <calebt> where is vlc to intall un ubuntu dapper?
[01:26] <inazad> Hi there, I have a big problem.. any touch I type, my desk is reloading and closing all of his applications.. what I have to di ?
[01:26] <benn> is there a painfree way to upgrade from ubuntu 6.06 RC to ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[01:26] <inazad> Hi there, I have a big problem.. any touch I type, my desk is reloading and closing all of his applications.. what I have to do?
[01:26] <gnuts> work?
[01:26] <`Boo`> grasshopper: i recommend utorrent
[01:26] <vitones> my bitorrent dont down nothing ;/
[01:26] <slackern> quamper: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=3209&cat=all
[01:26] <skippy81> sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> benn: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[01:27] <calebt> thank u
[01:27] <nickrud> !upgrade
[01:27] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[01:27] <vitones> algum brasileiro perae?! ;D
[01:27] <gnuts> bobby, how's it going?
[01:27] <TheAsp> I'm trying to get the nvidia drivers going on my box...  I have a 7800 gt pci-e.  I am 99% sure I have everything installed right, but whenever I use anything that uses gl, including glxinfo, X locks up.  How can MI fxi this?
[01:27] <nipper> How can I clear the alternating cache on swap?
[01:27] <benn> yeah that doesn't work nick
[01:27] <benn> but thanks
[01:27] <zach> johnnowak: that guide appears to be out of date
[01:27] <decline> selam
[01:27] <`Boo`> vitones: #ubuntu-br
[01:27] <clement_lefebvre> vitones: #ubuntu-br
[01:27] <vitones> tanks...
[01:27] <andi5> nipper: swapoff -a ; swapon -a?
[01:27] <`Boo`> :)
[01:27] <bobby> i dont now
[01:27] <bobby> know*
[01:27] <niki> can someone suggest a good, _fast_, dual-paned gui file browser?  i am currently using nautilus, and it's just not cutting it as far as speed...
[01:27] <decline> selam
[01:27] <gnuts> is gtkpod in the list?
[01:27] <nickrud> benn, in what way? I've pointed people at that a few dozen times
[01:27] <bobby> nothing came up
[01:28] <slackern> quamper: maybe newer kernels has better support for that chipset, but that will require some more work too.
[01:28] <andi5> niki: maybe gentoo?
[01:28] <bobby> it says all gtk pod
[01:28] <quamper> slackern: oh thats not good :(
[01:28] <trappist> what is gam_server and what starts it?  every time my system gets sluggish, I run top and see gam_server chewing up resources.  I kill it and it restarts.  anybody know what it is and wtf it's doing?
[01:28] <alex_mayorga> done
[01:28] <niki> andi5, uh, gentoo is a distro, isn't it?  i'm looking for a file browser...
[01:28] <navarone> niki I'd try freshmeat.net or sourceforge to see what is avaialble
[01:28] <andi5> niki: gentoo is both
[01:28] <mjr> trappist, it monitors files for changes on behalf of other programs
[01:28] <nickrud> trappist, it's the tool that gnome uses to notify nautilus (and maybe other things) of changes to the filesystem
[01:28] <nipper> Guys, my cache on swap is going THROUGH THE ROOF... any ideas?
[01:28] <niki> andi5, really....didn't know that :P
[01:28] <mjr> if it's in a loop, well, that's a bug
[01:28] <andi5> niki: i know ;-)
[01:29] <gnuts> ok good, click the little box to the left of gtkpod
[01:29] <niki> andi5, its pretty good though?
[01:29] <nickrud> andi-, why is gam not running on my dapper box?
[01:29] <trappist> mjr: oh, that's right.  like fam.  it's a gnome thing, right?  I run kubuntu - what starts it, wtf is it monitoring for changes, and how do I stop it?
[01:29] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: done, warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file...
[01:29] <gnuts> click mark for installation
[01:29] <benn> nickrud: i installed the rc and don't have any updates showing as need to be updated, am i basically running the same thing as the lts?
[01:29] <andi5> niki: try it, i am running mc most of the time (utf8 unsafe...)
[01:29] <mjr> trappist, like fam, yes, a bit simpler tho. Not strictly a gnome thing, as it implements the FAM API to the clients.
[01:29] <grasshopper> `Boo`: utorrent is not in my repos
[01:30] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  yeah you want to overwrite
[01:30] <bobby> ialreayd have gtkpod downloaded i just  need to install it
[01:30] <niki> andi5, what's mc?
[01:30] <nipper> Guys, my cache on swap is going THROUGH THE ROOF... any ideas?
[01:30] <mjr> trappist, dunno what starts it for you tho, I don't think KDE uses FAM
[01:30] <TheAsp> nipper: are you trying to say that linux is swapping so that it can cache stuff?
[01:30] <grasshopper> navarone: bittorrent is supposed to be installed already but i don't see it
[01:30] <andi5> niki: you have synaptic, do not you? :)
[01:30] <nickrud> benn, you should have some updates available from the rc. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade should be sufficient if dapper is in your sources.
[01:30] <niki> andi5, yes, i have synaptic
[01:30] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  then you want to reboot
[01:30] <nipper> TheAsp: I don't know, I just feel so lonely not talking techie. :'(
[01:30] <gnuts> this will do both, I'm not so good at command line installalation
[01:30] <trappist> mjr: I really can't imagine why gnome would either, without a user explicitly setting it up.  I'm gonna file a mean bug on something when I track this down.  Thanks much.
[01:31] <TheAsp> nipper: say what?
[01:31] <bobby> ok
[01:31] <bobby> well
[01:31] <maddy> is the ssh demon runnign by default on ubuntu?
[01:31] <keithg> grasshopper:  If bittorrent is already installed, then you would just have to open the .torrent file.  It should automatically use bittorrent.
[01:31] <skippy81> maddy no
[01:31] <maddy> k
[01:31] <maddy> ty
[01:31] <gnuts> I'd just delete your downlaod file and do it this way, it handles all the dependencies
[01:31] <skippy81> np
[01:31] <maddy> how do i start it?
[01:31] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: ctrl+alt+del? =)
[01:31] <bobby> to the left it says all and then under all it says gtkpod i click gtk pod but theres nothing to download in the big box next to it
[01:31] <mjr> trappist, well, for things like having a current view of the menus and file manager windows...
[01:31] <sybariten> hey does anyone have any smooth tips for how to disable the freaking console beep? Well, in xterm really
[01:32] <skippy81> alex_mayorga: yeah that should work
[01:32] <gnuts> wierd, you ckecked all the repositories in the window?
[01:32] <slackern> quamper: looks like there is a patch for kernels that fixes that issue but it involves using a regular IDE drive and such
[01:32] <andi5> sybariten: as someone told me yesterday, there is a line about beeping in /etc/inputrc .... it willl deactive the beep when tab completing
[01:32] <grasshopper> keithg: don't get it. why is the client no in Application/Internet ?
[01:32] <navarone> grasshopper: I'm using xfce so menus are different...but try alt-f2 and type in bittorrent and enter to start app
[01:32] <andi5> sybariten: uncomment it :)
[01:32] <bobby> in the all window?
[01:33] <trappist> mjr: apt should be able to update menus with hooks - I suppose I see the value for file managers, but I'm not running one atm and if I was it wouldn't be nautilus, and oh btw why is it eating up all my resources and driving up my load?
[01:33] <grasshopper> keithg: how do i open the .torrent file?
[01:33] <mjr> trappist, told you, a bug ;)
[01:33] <gnuts> ok try (in synaptic) search, type in gtkpod and enter
[01:33] <navarone> grasshopper: just double click .torretn file and bittorrent client will open
[01:33] <mjr> trappist, or then something's changing like hell in some of your monitored directories ;)
[01:33] <calebt> i'm finding a good bittorrent client like bitcomet, anybody know someone?
[01:33] <slackern> quamper: http://www.geocities.com/rajahuroman/main.html this seems to be the guy making the fix for it might give some information for you.
[01:33] <trappist> mjr: I tried to uninstall gamin, but it wants to take pretty much the whole kde with it
[01:33] <gnuts> you should get three files in the upper right window
[01:33] <MrKeuner> hi, is it Firefox Gnome or Ubuntu's fault(if it is) to create filenames using the title of the page when a bookmark is created on the Desktop?
[01:34] <vbn>  pour moi la version dapper  est+ problmatique que l'anciene versin bta 6.04    impossible ajout amsn   vlc  mplayer  flashplayer   codec vido/audio   ect...  avec synatic pourquoi ???       MERCI pour vos reponce et ides
[01:34] <MrKeuner> And how can I change that if I can?
[01:34] <andi5> MrKeuner: what is wrong with it?
[01:34] <grasshopper> navarone: could not open file ?
[01:34] <voraistos> !fr
[01:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:34] <mjr> trappist, whaddoya know, maybe kde hasn't reinvented it after all ;)
[01:34] <skippy81> lol
[01:34] <keithg> grashopper:  I usually just double click it, and it usually just opens automatically in bittorrent.
[01:34] <MrKeuner> andi5/ it creates filenames like ---:::[01:34] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: strange thing is it loads the brown logo and the bunch of OK's in brown just fine
[01:35] <navarone> grasshopper type sudo apt-get install bittorrent to amke sure bittorrent is installed
[01:35] <MrKeuner> andi5/ which does not go into a vfat formatted usb flash disk
[01:35] <SillyRabbit> Can anyone recommend a DEFRAGGER ?
[01:35] <krazykit> SillyRabbit: you don't need one
[01:35] <nickrud> SillyRabbit, no
[01:35] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  yeah those are independant of xwindows though
[01:35] <quamper> slackern: thanks for looking that up.. that really sucks.. i guess i bought the wrong motherboard. would you be able to make a suggestion of a motherboard that would work that supports the athalon 64 3200+ processor?
[01:35] <maddy> how do u start the sshd?
[01:35] <grasshopper> navarone: i did already
[01:35] <`Boo`> windows defragger!
[01:35] <AK_7> Sillyrabbit, defraggers are for Windows!
[01:35] <andi5> MrKeuner: you would rather see some weird url with lots of http params?
[01:35] <keithg> Sillyrabbit, you're silly.
[01:35] <sybariten> andi5: oh ok ... thats like the fifth solution to this problem i've heard... great that its so easy to solve simple problems in *nix..-
[01:35] <trappist> mjr: I attached strace to it and it's lstat'ing .desktop files in /usr/share/services and /usr/share/applnk!  totally frikkin unnecessary?
[01:35] <sybariten> andi5 but thanks
[01:35] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  your not running a live CD are you?
[01:35] <SillyRabbit> LINUX ! need Defraggers ???
[01:35] <gnuts> I need an fstab entry for 2nd HD ext3
[01:35] <trappist> s/?/!/
[01:35] <MrKeuner> andi5/ some hexadecimal filename would be even more efficient I suppose
[01:36] <`Boo`> gnuts
[01:36] <`Boo`> copy your first
[01:36] <grasshopper> navarone: i've double clicked on the knoppix torrent and it is downloading to my home dir
[01:36] <voraistos> vbn: check your repos
[01:36] <`Boo`> but change the HD letter
[01:36] <navarone> grasshopper: what is name of file you are trying to dl? Does it end with .torrent?
[01:36] <navarone> grasshopper: ok
[01:36] <gnuts> Thanks
[01:36] <slackern> quamper: i installed dapper on a friends athlon64 3500, he has a DFI Nforce4 motherboard with SLI and that worked flawlessly.
[01:36] <keithg> Sillyrabbit, you don't need one.
[01:36] <`Boo`> grasshopper:  bad! dont use ubuntu to download other distros!
[01:36] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: not I'm running the yesterday working 5.10 updated to 6.06
[01:36] <slackern> quamper: that the only a64 i've used it on, still using a athlon xp here myself.
[01:37] <navarone> `Boo`: other distros are ok...but nude pics of Ernest Borgnine are strictly verbotten
[01:37] <grasshopper> navarone: its called KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-DE
[01:37] <dipnlik> hi all, how can i configure gdm's resolution or switch from gdm to kdm?
[01:37] <SillyRabbit> krazykit:  keithg:  video editing generally requires it...why would you say you don't need it based upon the OS ???
[01:37] <trappist> mjr: as before, I managed to get rid of it like so: while true; do killall gam_server;done - and I hit ctrl-c after it gives up respawning.  but that gets me no closer to figuring out why it started.
[01:37] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  are you just getting the same error now?
[01:37] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: nah! I get the blank screen again
[01:37] <alex_mayorga> I'll blame gdm here
[01:37] <AK_7> SillyRabbit: Open a terminal and type "echo defragged"
[01:37] <grasshopper> `Boo`: lol dont be like that. Its all part of the GNU generation  :D
[01:37] <quamper> slackern: yeah my athalon xp gave up so i figured it was time to upgrade motherboard as well since availability of chips seemed scarce :( thats what i get for not checking first
[01:37] <voraistos> ubotu !tell vbn about easyubuntu
[01:37] <ubotu> voraistos: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:37] <gnuts> bobby, you get it?
[01:37] <AK_7> if the return is "defragged" then you're all set
[01:37] <andi5> MrKeuner: actually, i do not see the problem :) i edit the bookmark title each time and with the html title this is often not much to do
[01:37] <skippy81> alex_mayorga i think the problem is your resolution
[01:38] <slackern> quamper: Yeah, it's really bad luck nontheless, usually the drivers are in the kernel almost before motherboards hits the market.
[01:38] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: re-reboot?
[01:38] <SillyRabbit> AK_7:  looking for a serious answer - not some contrived bs
[01:38] <navarone> alex_mayorga: are your speakers on when you try to get to login screen? If so can you here the drum when you get to login? I ahd that prob and was still able to login blind
[01:38] <grasshopper> `Boo`: it is the rescue disc i was recommended to get. But don't worry i have Ubuntu on my desktop ;)
[01:38] <krazykit> SillyRabbit: you don't defrag linux filesystems.  period.  you don't have to.  that's how it is
[01:38] <keithg> Sillyrabbit,  I just know from my reading about Linux, that you *do not* need to defrag.
[01:38] <AK_7> You already got one... Linux uses ext2/3, which don't need defragging
[01:38] <`Boo`> =D
[01:38] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  no just keep running the reconfigure-xorg until you find a combination that workd
[01:38] <MrKeuner> andi5/ it is not easy to rename bookmark file's name in Gnome? Is it easier in KDE?
[01:38] <MrKeuner> andi5/ it is not easy to rename bookmark file's name in Gnome. Is it easier in KDE?
[01:39] <grasshopper> navarone: what is the verdict? doesn't end in .torrent does it. Is it therefore not a torrent file?
[01:39] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: that would need a reboot though, once in blank screen seems like theres no way to get a prompt
[01:39] <andi5> MrKeuner: you mean a link on the desktop? press f2 on it, edit and press enter...... i think i do not understand what you mean :9
[01:39] <SillyRabbit> krazykit: keithg AK_7 - I appreciate the fback but, video edit really frag's the heck out of your system...it makes accessing the videofiles very very slow...
[01:39] <nickrud> SillyRabbit, ext3 is supposed to handle file placement intelligently, so defragging is not required. Recieved wisdom for me, but I've kept an eye on my partitions and none of them has ever been above 5% in several years
[01:40] <slackern> quamper: maybe buying a separate SATA controller card could solve it too and that might be a bit cheaper.
[01:40] <jadaz87> SillyRabbit: trix are for kids
[01:40] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  i think you should download the dapper drake live cd and see if it works
[01:40] <krazykit> SillyRabbit: then tar up your whole filesystem, back it up, make the filesystem again, and untar.
[01:40] <MrKeuner> andi5/ yes but it does not work because on the desktop as filename it shows something else. you can see the real filename when you ls in console
[01:40] <navarone> grasshopper: i dunno but it is working so I wouldn't worry
[01:40] <quamper> slackern: yeah i always check video card and that kinda stuff. figured this mobo had been out there awhile and was popular so figured there wouldn't be any problems.. i guess i'll be trying to find a new one tommorow
[01:40] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: linky?
[01:40] <G8trBait> Is there a good Firefox Popup blocker?
[01:40] <krazykit> SillyRabbit: that's the closest you're going to get to defragging.
[01:40] <andi5> MrKeuner: ahhh... now i understand :)
[01:40] <SillyRabbit> krazykit:  keithg - ok...thanks mates....
[01:40] <grasshopper> navarone: what is emule?
[01:41] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, i just installed flashplayer plugin for firefox(atleast twice now..) and the sound doesn't work, I went to the restricted formats page on the wiki.. and tried there 3 solutions.. none of which worked.
[01:41] <navarone> grasshopper: another download client
[01:41] <keithg> sillyrabbit:  No problem silly.  :)  I just had to say that.
[01:41] <SillyRabbit> grasshopper:  it's a P2P file sharing proggy
[01:41] <jtgoguen> SillyRabbit: install the defrag package
[01:41] <grasshopper> `Boo`: i am a good boy 8-)
[01:41] <voraistos> SillyRabbit: are u sure it is fragged ?
[01:41] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: I guess I'd have followed the rule if it's not broken...
[01:41] <quamper> slackern: what was that website you used to look up whether it was compatible or not?
[01:41] <slackern> quamper: My best bet would be a motherboard with Nforce 4 chipset i guess, its more mainstream than the KM800 chipset.
[01:41] <slackern> quamper: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=3209&cat=all
[01:41] <grasshopper> SillyRabbit: that is what a torrent file is too, right? are they the same?
[01:42] <andi5> MrKeuner: hm.... i tried and the name of the file is identical to the name that appears on the desktop.....
[01:42] <stalefries> I have an ati card in a laptop, and I was wondering if I could get hot-pluggable dual-monitor support
[01:42] <voraistos> SillyRabbit: coz i mean i really never heard about such a thing before ?!
[01:42] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  has it ever worked since you updated to dapper?
[01:42] <slackern> quamper: might find a nice card there thats perfectly compatible.
[01:42] <SillyRabbit> voraistos:  no, I am not..(great question)  but, I used winxp for years for video editing and you can't live without it....so, i don't know how to tell on a ext3 system...
[01:42] <navarone> grasshopper: torrents are used mainly for large media files or iso's
[01:42] <Peregrino> Hi All!
[01:42] <quamper> slackern: i think my only problem is most of the nforce 4 chipset boards only support pci express and i need agp support.. maybe a sata card might be the better route
[01:42] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: never, always blank screen
[01:42] <grasshopper> navarone: is emule the same thing?
[01:42] <brandon_> is there a way to use apt to go back to the previous version of a package?
[01:42] <MrKeuner> andi5/ now change that name and look at it using ls
[01:42] <arentie> hello, my Linksys WMP54G is detected; however, it does not seem to work when I attempt to activate it
[01:43] <skippy81> !dapper
[01:43] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[01:43] <navarone> grasshopper: emule is more like napster
[01:43] <grasshopper> navarone: i thought torrents were P2P also
[01:43] <MrKeuner> andi5/ change it using f2
[01:43] <krazykit> grasshopper: they are.
[01:43] <slackern> quamper: ahhh, i know some daughter company of asus makes boards which has both AGP and PCI-Express.
[01:43] <Peregrino> Hi skippy81 ^
[01:43] <grasshopper> grasshopper: is confused
[01:43] <dxdemetriou> ow can I give a name in partition?
[01:43] <voraistos> SillyRabbit: ext3 cant be fragged. It just cant be. However video editing on linux... thats a challenge ;)
[01:43] <andi5> MrKeuner: got it.... took me quite some time, but now i have fully got it ;-) please excuse my dumbness
[01:43] <SillyRabbit> grasshopper:  torrent is not the same, no.   But the concept is similar - do a google on torrent and you'll see
[01:43] <slackern> quamper: Asrock is the name of that manufacturer.
[01:43] <Peregrino> I have an issue with the filesystem of my MP3 Player, can anyone help me?
[01:43] <MrKeuner> andi5/ :) no problem friend
[01:43] <andi5> MrKeuner: so the file name does not matter to you, right?
[01:43] <grasshopper> SillyRabbit: which is faster?
[01:44] <skippy81> hello Peregrino
[01:44] <navarone> alex ahve you tried looking at the Xorg.0.log file?
[01:44] <keithg> grasshopper:  I find torrents tend to be faster than any other download form for me, depending on how many people are seeding the file.
[01:44] <SillyRabbit> grasshopper:  good question,,,, it depends on how many people particiapate not the protocol, really
[01:44] <grasshopper> SillyRabbit: mule sounds slow
[01:44] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ download the desktop CD and see if it will boot
[01:44] <slackern> quamper: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=3219&cat=36 thats the card i was thinking off.
[01:44] <MrKeuner> andi5/ well I do not care what it is as long as it fits on vfat
[01:44] <Peregrino> Can anyone helpme?
[01:44] <SillyRabbit> grasshopper:  i think that is true in general relative to some torrent stuff....
[01:44] <grasshopper> thx keithg
[01:45] <quamper> slackern: if i find a compatible sata pci controller card. I should be able to stick it in and attach hard drive and go without any problems ideally?
[01:45] <Gerbils> anyone here happens to know something about awstats? I have it installed but it doesn't seem to recognise spider/bots. The option is enabled in config file..
[01:45] <Surfnmate> greets
[01:45] <MrKeuner> andi5/ but I guess this is also a Gnome problem since it does not change the real filename and changes something else instead
[01:45] <navarone> keithg: unfortunately a lot of file I try  to get thru bittorretna renot that popular so i get lousy dl rates...<s>
[01:45] <olem> Anybody has already installed and used with success VMWare Server on Dapper?
[01:45] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: I guess I would wait for my CD packs to get delivered
[01:45] <SillyRabbit> voraistos:  fragged to me means "spread out" over the hdisk,  sectors not contiguous...therefore head has to travel irregularly to access data...see?
[01:46] <slackern> quamper: Yes it should work, as long as the motherboard bios supports booting from PCI cards so to say, but i haven't seen a card ever support that :)
[01:46] <purserj> olem, I've got it running quite nicely
[01:46] <slackern> quamper: but i won't push my luck with saying it will work with your card though.
[01:46] <dxdemetriou> Can I set a volume on external disk partition?
[01:46] <grasshopper> navarone: once i've downloaded the iso via torrent, is it just like a normal file? Can i just burn it to cd or do i have to make steps first?
[01:46] <avis> quamper, i've purchased a motherboard that has onboard sata made by via which is usually easily supported by linux.  its not bleeding edge stuff though.   it'll take a
[01:46] <SillyRabbit> voraistos:  so, to me there is not such thing as "frag free"...see ?
[01:46] <olem> slackern: Did you encoutered some tweaking during installation of the server part?
[01:46] <SillyRabbit> voraistos:  it seems to be an impossible concept
[01:46] <avis> quamper, it'll take a celeron d 775 however.  haven't tested to be entirely sure
[01:46] <navarone> grasshopper: use gnomebaker to burnt he iso as cd image...do not burn as simple data cd
[01:47] !lilo:*! web site change: removed affero donation information from the website due to long inactivity
[01:47] <Peregrino> skippy81: could you lend me a hand?
[01:47] <voraistos> uh? Is it just me or the channel is dead ?
[01:47] <kevin1> I am attempting to replace metacity with sawfish.. I have successfully killed metacity and attempt to run sawfish, I get File Error: No such file or directory, debian-menu error--> (error "sm-open-connection"  "Authentication Rejected"
[01:47] <skippy81> whats the problem Peregrino
[01:47] <krazykit> voraistos: just you.  the channel is alive and kicking
[01:47] <grasshopper> navarone: sure, so i don't need to prepare it. Wow, so torrent it no big deal then. Why not always use it instead of mirrors?
[01:47] <navarone> anyone else using xfce4 and think it kicks butt like I do? <s>
[01:47] <quamper> slackern: ok yeah i'll probably just pick up that motherboard since it seems to work and ebay this motherboard and just take a loss on the differencee
[01:48] <grasshopper> navarone: by teh way i prefer K3B ;)
[01:48] <avis> i think linux distros tend to adopt via chipsets
[01:48] <andi5> MrKeuner: one suggestion: i=0 ; for file in *.desktop ; do let i++; mv "$file" $i.desktop ; done
[01:48] <krazykit> navarone: probably everyone in #xubuntu
[01:48] <Peregrino> I'm trying to mount my MP3 Player from the console, but mount doesn't recognize it's filesystem :/
[01:48] <quamper> slackern: thanks for all the help, that kept me from going crazy
[01:48] <SillyRabbit> quamper:  how do you just use "xfce4" ? instead of gnome, that is ?
[01:48] <slackern> quamper: but if you go though the lists on that page for motherboards that you can buy nearby you should find one that works nicely i hope.
[01:48] <gnut1> I can't load servers in aMule, any help?
[01:48] <alex_mayorga> thanks and bye for now
[01:48] <deleted> hey, all.  i'm having issues with synaptic wanting to remove tons of important-looking stuff when i mark things for installation.  could this be related to the dapper release?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> SillyRabbit: install it than log into it on the login screen
[01:48] <grasshopper> i call gnomebaker Gnomebreaker, but i'm sure it has got better now, heehee...
[01:48] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  bye, sorry we couldnt get it working :(
[01:48] <kevin1> I am attempting to replace metacity with sawfish.. I have successfully killed metacity and attempt to run sawfish, I get File Error: No such file or directory, debian-menu error--> (error "sm-open-connection"  "Authentication Rejected"  What exactly does this mean?
[01:49] <MrKeuner> andi5/ some recursion capabilities would be even better but I guess this problem has to be solved somehow in the end
[01:49] <Peregrino> skippy81: I'm trying to mount my MP3 Player from the console, but mount doesn't recognize it's filesystem :/
[01:49] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: np, it's software in the end
[01:49] <_jason> deleted: are you running dapper now?
[01:49] <SillyRabbit> gnomefreak:  is it easy to switch back and forth ?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> grasshopper: ive used it a dozen or so times in the last few days worked flawlessly
[01:49] <skippy81> Peregrino:  what sort of mp3 player is it?
[01:49] <bullrage> arrgghh, this is really annoying. I have PHP files in the /var/www folder and when i come to use an editor and save them, I get permission denied. How can I set myself access to write/delete etc system wide, without root access
[01:49] <alex_mayorga> skippy81: do I need to file bug or is this user error?
[01:49] <SillyRabbit> gnomefreak:  and, why do you like it better than gnome?  gnome is awesome !
[01:49] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, i just installed flashplayer plugin for firefox(atleast twice now..) and the sound doesn't work, I went to the restricted formats page on the wiki.. and tried there 3 solutions.. none of which worked.
[01:49] <MrKeuner> andi5/ just I am not sure where to report
[01:49] <gnomefreak> SillyRabbit: did i say i liked it better than gnome?
[01:49] <andi5> MrKeuner: then work with find -print0 and read to \0
[01:50] <gnomefreak> SillyRabbit: click sessions on the login screena nd choose xfce
[01:50] <SillyRabbit> gnomefreak:  implied maybe....
[01:50] <Peregrino> skippy81: It's a Sandisk MP3 Player (512Mb)
[01:50] <skippy81> alex_mayorga:  we wont know until you try the dapper live cd, if it doesnt work with that then definately a bug
[01:50] <andi5> MrKeuner: bugzilla.gnome.org, nautilus, or launchpad
[01:50] <G8trBait> Fianlly got XGL running.. :) 3rd tiem was the charm
[01:50] <bullrage> anyone? it's really annoying
[01:50] <xfcefreak> SillyRabbit: you mean like this?
[01:50] <cfh_dev> My computer shutoff due to power loss.  Now, I can't ping the router with the new kernel (2.6.15-23) but can with the next newest (2.6.15-22).  Any thoughts about the cause of this?
[01:50] <alex_mayorga> thanks again, bye
[01:50] <skippy81> Peregrino, ok and are you running Dapper Drake 6.06 ?
[01:50] <skippy81> cya alex
[01:50] <Rug> xfcefreak: have you tried fluxbox lately?
[01:50] <deleted> _jason: i'm running breezy, but i have some of the dapper repos in my sources
[01:50] <MrKeuner> andi5/ yes one of them would be a good start thanks for sharing your ideas
[01:50] <Peregrino> skippy81: Nope, Breezy Badger 5.1
[01:50] <gnomefreak> Rug: yep i was on it this am for a bit
[01:50] <voraistos> SillyRabbit: i am sorry, it looks like my system is very unstable right now. need to go. (i have an enormous strange lg)
[01:50] <_jason> deleted: that's usually a bad idea
[01:50] <Peregrino> skippy81: LiveCD
[01:51] <voraistos> lag*
[01:51] <grasshopper> gnomefreak: i was just kidding...sorry..heehee. I'm just used to K3B and i know it works great
[01:51] <SillyRabbit> gnomefreak:  so, you do not prefer xfce to gnome ?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> Rug: i use flux open black e17 kde and gnome and xfce
[01:51] <disinterested_pe> anyone not having volume working from the keyboard?
[01:51] <Rug> gnomefreak: good to hear
[01:51] <Bung> ok what was the nice wireless gui that ubuntu/gnome came with, i installed xubuntu and it doesnt have it...
[01:51] <bullrage> arrgghh, this is really annoying. I have PHP files in the /var/www folder and when i come to use an editor and save them, I get permission denied. How can I set myself access to write/delete etc system wide, without root access
[01:51] <jbirdAngel> what is the network connection thing in my taskbar that doesnt seem to do anything, and can i get networkmanager for gnome? i have knetworkmanager and searched in adept for networkmanager but only found knetworkmanater
[01:51] <andi5> disinterested_pe: me :)
[01:51] <skippy81> Peregrino, ah i see.  May I suggest you download the dapper drake live CD - it will be much easier to do stuff with
[01:52] <Matthewv> Bung, network manager?
[01:52] <disinterested_pe> me too
[01:52] <avis> disinterested_pe, if i had a keyboard with volume control i would not expect it to work with linux.  thats just me though
[01:52] <gnomefreak> brb that reminds me
[01:52] <Bung> Matthewv: is that the name of it?
[01:52] <skippy81> Peregrino:  try plugging and unplugging the mp3 player from the USB port, does anything happen?
[01:52] <Peregrino> skippy81: Mhh, I'm considering it, since shipping time is really long :|
[01:52] <Bung> it let me pick wireless lans and stuff
[01:52] <nickrud> amazingly, my keyboard volume control works
[01:52] <_jason> deleted: why not just upgrade to dapper?
[01:52] <grasshopper> Guys! what is the general consensus? use aptitude or apt-get? for example sudo aptitude install gnomebaker or apt-get?
[01:52] <SillyRabbit> voraistos:  lg ? not familiar, sorry ....
[01:53] <skippy81> Peregrino, what speed internet connection do you have? is it broadband?
[01:53] <Matthewv> Bung, networkmanager i think :)
[01:53] <nickrud> grasshopper, choose one or the other, and stick with it
[01:53] <grasshopper> to aptitude or to apt-get; that is the question?
[01:53] <deleted> _jason: i will after i'm not on a tight work deadline
[01:53] <andi5> disinterested_pe: first check in system->settings->keyboard->layouts whether they list your keyboard
[01:53] <krazykit> grasshopper: aptitude
[01:53] <Bung> ok thanks
[01:53] <Peregrino> skippy81: It mount's by itself, but I want to name the drive
[01:53] <kevin1> I am attempting to replace metacity with sawfish.. I have successfully killed metacity and attempt to run sawfish, I get File Error: No such file or directory, debian-menu error--> (error "sm-open-connection"  "Authentication Rejected"  What exactly does this mean?
[01:53] <Rug> grasshopper: I come from a long-line of debain servers that I maintain, so apt-get for me
[01:53] <_jason> grasshopper: don't know that there is a consensus, but aptitude for installing and removing I would say
[01:53] <grasshopper> nickrud: ohh...you think consistency is important?
[01:53] <Matthewv> sry Bung network-manager
[01:53] <deleted> _jason: any idea how long the upgrade takes?
[01:53] <Peregrino> skippy81: and to do so I need to mount it from console :/ [ADSL 256Kb] 
[01:54] <grasshopper> Thx Guys!
[01:54] <Bung> Roger that.
[01:54] <bullrage> what's roots group ID?
[01:54] <Rug> bullrage: 1 (jk)
[01:54] <grasshopper> grasshopper is still not sure  :|
[01:54] <_jason> deleted: took a couple of hours for me, but it was while dapper was still beta.  I would guess that the mixed repos are the cause of your problems though
[01:54] <skippy81> Peregrino, i really dont think you should bother, why would you want to name it anyway? Whats its current name?
[01:54] <andi5> bullrage, Rug: id root -> 0.0
[01:54] <kermitX_> disinterested_pe, i used system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts to set up the hotkeys on my keyboard.
[01:54] <selaiah> My Screen isnt centered properly (right side is out of screen's range) anyone know what i can do about it?
[01:54] <Rug> ahh, I was close
[01:55] <kermitX_> disinterested_pe, including volume. works fine.
[01:55] <Peregrino> skippy81: It says "no name" :/
[01:55] <deleted> _jason: yeah, i removed the dapper repos, and that seems to have fixed it
[01:55] <deleted> _jason:  thanks!
[01:55] <_jason> deleted: np
[01:55] <skippy81> Perigrino, i just dont think there is any point in manually mounting a removable device
[01:55] <kevin1> Can anyone tell me how to properly replace GNOME window manager?
[01:56] <grasshopper> Rug i heard that aptitude is good because if you uninstall it makes it clean. whereas apt-get will leave stuff behind? :s
[01:56] <SillyRabbit> kevinl:  why do you want to change ?
[01:56] <kevin1> SillyRabbit i don't like metacity
[01:56] <Peregrino> skippy81: in fact i think that too, but I was wondering if I could do it manually, just in case
[01:56] <SillyRabbit> kevinl is that what the default is ( newbie here )..?
[01:57] <andi5> SillyRabbit: yes
[01:57] <damnation> guys, i have a WPC54G wifi pcmcia card in my laptop, how do i get it working in linux? also what software do i use to utilise it ?
[01:57] <nickrud> grasshopper, I'm gonna be awa for a bit, but for a firm opinion: if you plan on using synaptic or gnome-app-install, use apt-get. aptitude leaves those all in the dust
[01:57] <Rug> grasshopper: that might be true (I have heard the same thing), but (a) I have never had a problem with it, (b) it is what I am used to and (c) I don't like aptitude.
[01:57] <SillyRabbit> andi5 what do you recommend ?
[01:57] <skippy81> Peregrino:  removable devices are not like normal disks, they are mounted by udev, not with the normal mount method
[01:57] <damnation> apparantly the wpc54gv3 (what i have) works on linux's list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:57] <andi5> SillyRabbit: metacity ;-)
[01:57] <SillyRabbit> andi5 lol
[01:57] <andi5> and i had a lot of alternatives running :)
[01:58] <Peregrino> skippy81: mhhhh that could be my problem... I'll take a look to the man udev documentation ^^
[01:58] <kevin1> I am getting authentication failed when attempting to run sawfish
[01:58] <gnut1> anyone having aMule .met file problems?
[01:58] <kermitX_> switching desktop environments with apt-get: see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[01:58] <grasshopper> Rug: i like reason c) best hehe
[01:58] <kevin1> I have killed metacity, but I loaded sawfish from apt-get
[01:58] <selaiah> My Screen isnt centered properly (right side is out of screen's range) anyone know what i can do about it?
[01:58] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  how can I check which wm I have ?
[01:59] <andi5> SillyRabbit: ps ax | grep [m] etacity
[01:59] <skippy81> Peregrino:  you really should get dapper, me and most of the people in this chatroom use it now, so it will be much easier for you to get techical advice about dapper
[01:59] <Rug> grasshopper: hehe sorry I can't give you a valid reason WHY.  I have had more headaches trying to work with aptitude, then apt.
[01:59] <disinterested_pe> and1.5 no mines not listed
[02:00] <skippy81> selaiah:  most monitors have controls for changing v pos and height
[02:00] <nickrud> selaiah, use the monitor controls to shift it back?
[02:00] <kevin1> can anyone tell me what authenciation failed means... File erorr: no such file or directory, debian-menu
[02:01] <disinterested_pe> hummmm billy preston died today
[02:01] <SillyRabbit> kevin1:  what fs do you use ?
[02:01] <grasshopper> Rug: Mr. Shuttleworth was saying that smart might be the installer of future releases. The code for apt-get slowly getting a bit crusty?
[02:01] <Peregrino> skippy81: OK I'll start downloading it this night ;) BTW, the differences between the two releases are so big?
[02:01] <SillyRabbit> disinterested_pe:  yeah, sad....
[02:01] <andi5> disinterested_pe: was hard to see that you meant me :) .... next thing is to open terminal and spawn xev.... type your control and see whether the terminal prints something... if it does, then you only need to go to the key bindings control
[02:01] <Peregrino> Kant: Hi!
[02:01] <Rug> grasshopper: oh noes!   well fudge.  Back to debian for me then
[02:01] <neodrummer> ppl how do i download with apt-get?
[02:02] <bobby> sorry gunts im bkc
[02:02] <Flannel> neodrummer: you looking to just download? or install as well?
[02:02] <bobby> back*
[02:02] <nickrud> neodrummer, basically you type apt-get install <packagename> in a terminal
[02:02] <Rug> neodrummer: in terminal type:    sudo apt-get install PROGRAM-NAME
[02:02] <gnut1> welcome back, did it work?
[02:02] <neodrummer> first time i use this
[02:02] <gnomefreak> neodrummer: sudo apt-get install <app>   <app>=whatever app you want
[02:02] <disinterested_pe> andi.5 ive got no idea of how to do that
[02:02] <HellDragon> is there any thing to watch my motherboard,cpu and gpu's temperature ?
[02:02] <neodrummer> so probably also install
[02:02] <disinterested_pe> i know terminal though
[02:02] <bobby> no
[02:02] <bobby> i still cant find it
[02:02] <andi5> disinterested_pe: there is no dot in my name :) so enter xev and press enter
[02:03] <rjian> ie need help how to share internet connection with two network cards??
[02:03] <disinterested_pe> ok
[02:03] <Rya1> hello all.
[02:03] <voraistos> lo
[02:03] <SillyRabbit> rjian:  i have two cards and they work np
[02:03] <gnomefreak> anyone know the command to refresh menus?
[02:04] <nickrud> gnomefreak, update-menus
[02:04] <SillyRabbit> gnomefreak:  ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ty nickrud
[02:04] <gnomefreak> SillyRabbit: thats X
[02:04] <nickrud> gnomefreak, but I just killall gnome-panel, mostly
[02:04] <kermitX_> rjian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetConnectionSharing
[02:04] <grogoreo> hi
[02:04] <gnut1> bobby, you get an IM?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> nickrud: that didnt work
[02:05] <disinterested_pe> andi5 it printed out a bunch of stuff
[02:05] <SillyRabbit> does anyone know how to run Trillian on Linux/Ubuntu ?
[02:05] <grogoreo> does anyone know how I can get my scroller and two function buttons to work on my Wacom Graphire4 using Dapper?
[02:05] <_rif> hii all
[02:05] <_rif> what defferent hoary and breezy?
[02:05] <kevin1> Has anyone here changed window managers with gnome?
[02:05] <andi5> SillyRabbit: by switching to gaim
[02:05] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  not secure
[02:05] <gnomefreak> nickrud: i think this is an enlightenment agaist everyother desktop
[02:05] <andi5> SillyRabbit: why that?
[02:05] <ryan_mc> quick question: When I open an avi from an samba share, it launches with Totem, but won't play. How do I configure gnome to open the media with VLC?
[02:06] <SillyRabbit> andi5 - it does not have a "secure" mode like Trillian offers.....
[02:06] <gnut1> dapper can't understand the unicode of my amule server.met file, any solutions?
[02:06] <dra> I installed the nvidia driver with the wiki instructions. Works very well, however, the development files (/usr/include/GL/*) are still those from the mesa project. What's the trick?
[02:06] <mjr> rjian, installing the ipmasq package from universe should be an easy way to do that
[02:06] <andi5> SillyRabbit: oh, there are plugins... but if you have trillian users you want to speak to within trillian, then you will _need_ trillian :)
[02:06] <voraistos> gnomefreak: just kill X ;)ryan_mc: as far as i know, VLC doent support samba
[02:06] <Subhuman> SillyRabbit, gaim is secure if you use a SOCKS proxy with it like TOR
[02:06] <gnomefreak> voraistos: that didnt work
[02:06] <TheAsp> dra: that should be normal
[02:07] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I am not going to mess with e17 anymore, it's just too crappy
[02:07] <SillyRabbit> Subhuman:  oh, can I talk to my existing "trillian users that way"...? that would be great !
[02:07] <painkiler> hey guys
[02:07] <wastrel> hello
[02:07] <gnomefreak> this is E16 atm that i was playing with
[02:07] <painkiler> how do i format my harddrive with fdisk?
[02:07] <ryan_mc> gnomefreak: hmmm.. its in the preferences...
[02:07] <soundray> dra, have you installed nvidia-glx-dev? Not sure, but it sounds like it may solve your prob.
[02:07] <dra> TheAsp: doesn't nvidia-glx usually come with their own headers?
[02:07] <painkiler> i am on ubuntu live cd atm
[02:07] <voraistos> gnomefreak: reinstall ubuntu ? (if that still doesnt work, i cant help :P )
[02:07] <dra> soundray: I installed that, yep
[02:07] <ryan_mc> i'll try a copy/paste to open with vlc... one sec
[02:07] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  y, that is why i am asking about trillian....you use it?  or ever get it to work in WINE ?
[02:08] <nickrud> krazykit, you don't know how hard that was to say, I loved e16 when I started with linux
[02:08] <gnomefreak> with e16 you middle click and refresh menus it will give you a user menu in E but it killed my flux/xfce menus
[02:08] <Flannel> _rif: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/510  but, DAPPER is the current one (one after breezy), and those changes can be found here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606
[02:08] <soundray> dra, that was no use, sorry
[02:08] <gnomefreak> voraistos: its fixed ty tho ;)
[02:08] <andi5> SillyRabbit: i installed it once in windows, but it was just deinstalled just as fast
[02:08] <TheAsp> dra: i dont think
[02:08] <krazykit> nickrud: well, e17 is still not even alpha code :-P.  check back around september... the goal is to be alpha by then
[02:08] <ryanpg> hi all... I'm a teacher and I think I'd like to encorporate MUDs into my summer school curriculum... is there an IRC channel I could visit to learn more?
[02:09] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  y, wine is an awesome concept but, it is very complicated and doesn't seem to work very well...
[02:09] <meta-ridley> great concept except not
[02:09] <meta-ridley> ;)
[02:09] <painkiler> how do i format my second drive with fdisk?
[02:09] <andi5> SillyRabbit: awesome concept.... hm.... if you think that
[02:09] <painkiler> what is the command to erase it and change it to ext3?
[02:09] <bootlick> To restart the gnome, I type ?
[02:09] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  ? yes ?
[02:10] <Flannel> ryanpg: suggest asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:10] <ryanpg> Flannel, ty
[02:10] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  unless you know how to run ITUNES otherwise ? please let  me know....
[02:10] <dra> TheAsp: sorry I'm pretty much a damn newbie, seems I'm missing the xorg-dev ;)
[02:10] <soundray> painkiler: fdisk is for creating partitions. To create an ext3 filesystem, you use mke2fs -j
[02:10] <Hobart_> painkiler -> The Linux fdisk command is only for setting up the partitions, formatting is done separately.  There's a graphical utility if you would prefer that, let me look
[02:10] <nickrud> krazykit, you give me hope :)
[02:11] <andi5> SillyRabbit: well, i do not need itunes, so no, i cannot..... btw, gotta leave, it is late
[02:11] <gnomefreak> bootlick: log out and back in or use ctrl+alt+backspace   depends on what you want to re-start gnome for
[02:11] <krazykit> nickrud: but then again, i've been using e17 as my primary WM for 8ish months ;-)
[02:11] <SillyRabbit> andi5:  cheers
[02:11] <bootlick> just added some new software, and it should show up on a restart
[02:11] <painkiler> oh, bootlick, just reset your computer
[02:11] <gnomefreak> bootlick: killall gnome-panel will restart gnomes menu
[02:12] <SillyRabbit> nickrud:  what kind of people ?
[02:12] <paul_> I have to admit dapper drake is da bomb if I say so myself. I don't care how hard it was to install. lol
[02:12] <nickrud> SillyRabbit, people who use alpha-1 software for work
[02:12] <bootlick> thanks gnomefreak
[02:12] <Penguin> ok how do I upgrade Firefox to 1.5.0.4?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> yw bootlick
[02:12] <SillyRabbit> paul_:  true dat
[02:12] <damnation> guys, i have a WPC54G wifi pcmcia card in my laptop, how do i get it working in linux? also what software do i use to utilise it ?
[02:12] <damnation> apparantly the wpc54gv3 (what i have) works on linux's list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Penguin -about ff1.5
[02:12] <nickrud> bbl
[02:12] <dra> TheAsp: Ok, got it working...
[02:12] <SillyRabbit> nickrud:  i hear u bro
[02:12] <krazykit> nickrud: it's the longest i've stuck with a WM.  i went kde>gnome>xfce>fluxbox... then i switched between fluxbox and e17 for awhile, and i've stuck iwht e17 now.  my desktop wasn't horribly mission critical.  i could always type papers and stuff on other computers >_>
[02:12] <painkiler> I just need to reformat my drive... Then change the system to ext3...
[02:12] <selaiah> How can i read (not write) files on a NTFS file system?
[02:13] <painkiler> selaiah, you can't
[02:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell selaiah -about ntfs
[02:13] <krazykit> painkiler: wrong.  reading is fine.
[02:13] <gnomefreak> painkiler: yes you can
[02:13] <SillyRabbit> damnation:  i have never had any luck with wireless nic's on linux......sorry
[02:13] <painkiler> wow, the world changes
[02:13] <gnomefreak> selaiah: read your pm it will tell you ;)
[02:13] <selaiah> okay thank you! =)
[02:13] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:14] <meta-ridley> test
[02:14] <rjian> how will i config ipmasq?
[02:14] <soundray> rjian: use a front end, like firestarter
[02:14] <soundray> !firestarter
[02:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[02:15] <Hobart_> Has anyone here successfully installed Dapper to a USB flash drive?
[02:15] <painkiler> thanx guys, I worked it out on my own...
[02:15] <Hobart_> Found some old docs on the subject ...
[02:15] <krazykit> Hobart_: you'd want to build your usb support into the kernel.
[02:15] <krazykit> leave everything else modular
[02:15] <mike__> when will we be able to use project looking glass?
[02:16] <nuambenzina> ubotu tell nuambenzina -about ntfs
[02:16] <damnation> lol, good to know, luckyrabbit :(
[02:16] <Marineboy> !ntfs
[02:16] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[02:16] <Penguin> How do I do it?
[02:16] <Hobart_> krazykit: D'oh.  So kernel rebuild required. :\
[02:16] <SillyRabbit> damnation:  un-lucky rabbit
[02:16] <ryan_mc> gnomefreak: you're right it won't open smb media... how can I get this to work?
[02:16] <krazykit> Hobart_: no, but it's the easiest thing, IMO
[02:16] <santiagokq> i upgraded to dapper and now openoffice2 quickstart doesn't work anymore... i open ooo2, go to options memory quickstart, check the box and click ok, but when i go to the setting again it's still unchecked... and it obviously doesn't quickstart... what should i do?
[02:17] <krazykit> mike__: when the XGL or whatever 3d-x-server backend matures enough.
[02:17] <Andy_> anyone know how to get orinoco gold a/b/g wireless card to work in ubuntu
[02:17] <bootlick> Whats a good/mIRC like GNOME irc client to use?
[02:17] <rjian> ive already install firestarter wat next?
[02:17] <krazykit> bootlick: xchat...
[02:17] <SillyRabbit> damnation:  but, i admit i haven't tried wireless w/ drake - and this os surprises with its capibilities every day....smb worked straight away...amazing
[02:17] <bootlick> xchat seems so different, cant right click on a username and get user info
[02:18] <william__> my install with wireless was 0 config
[02:18] <franky123> hi, i've got a problem with my laptop overheating and hanging. it's got a celeron M so no "speed step" but i'm sure you can change the frequency while the OS is running (windows does). so i look in /cpu0 and there is no cpufreq ... how do i install it?
[02:18] <william__> I did absolutely nothing and was wireless and on here
[02:18] <inignot> I installed xubuntu - and the release notes are very accurate, my menu was eaten. I followed the instructins and removed the menu.xml file and restarted, but the menu is still not there. I see something when I click so it seems like the menu is there, but the size attributes are so small nothing can be seen. Any one know how to fix this? This is a major problem given there is no menu to use. I could really use some help.
[02:18] <Rug> bootlick: blow your mind, use irssi
[02:18] <krazykit> bootlick: /whois user :-P
[02:18] <SillyRabbit> ubuntu drake is heads above anything i have ever used.....it's brilliant
[02:18] <Penguin> how do I setup wlan on my laptop. I have a Dell Wireless 1350
[02:18] <bootlick> irssi, will try that, thanks Rug
[02:18] <santiagokq> i upgraded to dapper and now openoffice2 quickstart doesn't work anymore... i open ooo2, go to options memory quickstart, check the box and click ok, but when i go to the setting again it's still unchecked... and it obviously doesn't quickstart... what should i do ?
[02:19] <Rug> bootlick: irssi is hard-core old-school IRC'ing
[02:19] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  better than xchat ?
[02:19] <selaiah> Mp3, mpg and avi files cant be played atm. Can someone point me as to where i can download the required codecs?
[02:19] <Rug> SillyRabbit: hell yeah
[02:19] <Rug> xchais the MS Windows of Linux IRC clients
[02:19] <soundray> santiagokq: have you got ooqstart-gnome installed?
[02:19] <DarkMageZ> !tell selaiah about restrictedformats
[02:19] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell selaiah about restrictedformats
[02:19] <rjian> ive already install firestarter wats next to do?
[02:19] <Rug> xchat rather
[02:20] <selaiah> thank you guys
[02:20] <santiagokq> soundray: if i install that, it asks me to uninstall ubuntu-desktop!
[02:20] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  seriously, why?  or, better question is: is it better for a newbie - xchat is pretty simple..
[02:20] <soundray> santiagokq: you can do that, it won't do any harm.
[02:20] <santiagokq> soundray: and i had it working in breezy, without that package
[02:20] <krazykit> santiagokq: it's ok.  ubuntu-desktop not necessary, despite what it sounds like
[02:20] <Rug> Irssi is not newbie friendly, it's a very powerfull scriptable client.  if you are not intimidated by commadline, then I recommend it
[02:21] <pvangarde> how do I find out the version of gcc that was used to build my kernel?
[02:21] <Flannel> Rug: I don't see how it isn't newbie friendly.
[02:21] <krazykit> pvangarde: are you using ubuntu's default 2.6.15?  if so, it's gcc4
[02:21] <earthen> can I install the server edition from the normal install cd?
[02:21] <rjian> can anyone help  me about firestarter?
[02:21] <Rug> Flannel: simple:  there are no icons to click
[02:21] <Andy_> Please help:  Getting ubuntu to be able to connect with my Orinoco a/b/g wireless card?
[02:21] <SillyRabbit> Flannel:  may I ask what chat client you use ?
[02:21] <santiagokq> soundray: it also asks me to uninstall openoffice-gnome... i don't think it should need to do that
[02:22] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: chat? for irc? or for AIm/etc?
[02:22] <pvangarde> krazykit: thanks
[02:22] <SillyRabbit> Flannel:  chat
[02:22] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: right, which kind of chatting?
[02:22] <pvangarde> can anyone help me with installing the nvidia driver ? please
[02:22] <Rug> IRC or IM
[02:22] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: I use irssi for IRC, and centerICQ for the IM protocols
[02:22] <SillyRabbit> Flannel:  sorry, like we are going right now....
[02:22] <krazykit> ubotu: tell pvangarde about nvidia
[02:22] <william__> hello all,  Ive got everything working except my resolution is really low and I've followed the instructions for RestrictedBinaryNvidia
[02:22] <santiagokq> rjian: what do you need about firestarter?
[02:23] <rjian> how to setup it?
[02:23] <franky123> advice? powernowd isn't working because there is no cpufreq in the /sys/.../cpu0 so how do i install the cpufreq module, or how do i make sure i dont have it before i start?
[02:23] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: if you're looking for a GUI one, xchat is good.
[02:23] <rjian> they said its an easy way to share internet connection to the network
[02:23] <krazykit> franky123: what processor?
[02:23] <SillyRabbit> Flannel:  y, that is what I am using and it seem great to me........
[02:23] <soundray> santiagokq: hm, it seems that the packages are buggy. As a workaround, you could add ooffice to the startup programs (System-Preferences-Session)
[02:23] <pvangarde> krazykit: no, i'd like to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com is that not possible?
[02:23] <Rug> SillyRabbit: then keep using it.
[02:23] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: because I don't have a GUI on this box.  yeah, keep using xchat.
[02:23] <krazykit> pvangarde: it's possible.  i just don't know how
[02:24] <santiagokq> soundray: ok thanks, where can i get the startup commandline parameter?
[02:24] <franky123> krazykit: celeron M. i know it doesn't have speedstep, but i read somewhere you can still change frequency, and windows can, so i'm assuming its possible
[02:24] <santiagokq> soundray: btw will it be persistent after i close all ooo2 instances?
[02:24] <SillyRabbit> Rug: Flannel: will do, cheers
[02:24] <william__> can anyone help me troubleshoot why my Nvidia drivers didnt work even after the RestrictedBinarys?
[02:24] <Rug> SillyRabbit: thanks for keeping an open mind and using openSource
[02:24] <Andy_> or is the orinoco gold a/b/g card not supported
[02:24] <SillyRabbit> Flannel:  serious,,,,no gui?  not much fun, eh :)
[02:24] <pvangarde> does anyone know how to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com?
[02:24] <rjian> how to use the firestarter?
[02:25] <bullrage> Anybody know why I can't get sound in Flash Player 7?
[02:25] <Flannel> SillyRabbit: oh, plenty of fun.
[02:25] <william__> pvangarde:  dont use the driver from nvidia.com
[02:25] <santiagokq> soundray: remember that right now, i can't even configure it inside ooo2... seems like there's a bug with the program itself
[02:25] <krazykit> franky123: `sudo modprobe p4_clockmod`   ... make sure to edit /etc/modules and add the p4_clockmod line.
[02:25] <mcrandello> I need some help, the usb subsytem died is there any way to restart it without restarting the whole machine?
[02:25] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  loving this os....it blows me away
[02:25] <pvangarde> william__: why not?
[02:25] <Rug> SillyRabbit: great to hear,  convert a friend
[02:25] <william__> I dunno why I said anything I have no idea what Im doing :P
[02:25] <Penguin> How come I keep get msgs that say I don't have permissions? I'm the only user
[02:25] <william__> dont listen to me lol
[02:25] <soundray> santiagokq: it won't be persistent, and you don't need startup parameters. It will run the full openoffice program when you login.
[02:25] <Andy_> ath0      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"boonie"
[02:25] <Andy_>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.432 GHz  Access Point: 00:0F:66:9F:0B:C5
[02:25] <Andy_>           Bit Rate:1 Mb/s   Tx-Power:18 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3
[02:25] <Andy_>           Retry:off   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[02:25] <Andy_>           Power Management:off
[02:25] <TheAsp> willam: what doesnt work?
[02:25] <Andy_>           Link Quality=0/94  Signal level=-95 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm
[02:25] <Flannel> Penguin: because you're not the only user
[02:25] <Andy_>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[02:25] <Rug> !paste
[02:25] <Andy_>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[02:25] <bullrage> Anybody know why I can't get sound in Flash Player 7?
[02:25] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[02:25] <krazykit> Andy_: pastebin!
[02:25] <krazykit> don't flood
[02:26] <Andy_> sorry
[02:26] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  i am an ordained minister now....
[02:26] <santiagokq> soundray: what would be the use then?  :)
[02:26] <mcrandello> penguin, you need to do admin things as root, using the "sudo" comand
[02:26] <Flannel> Penguin: because your user only has limited abilities, it keeps it more secure.
[02:26] <Penguin> Then How do I get permissions?
[02:26] <william__> TheAsp: I followed the intructions for the Nvidia Restricted Binarys but I cannot change my res past 1024x768
[02:26] <Rug> SillyRabbit: So you know a lot about Converting people?  =)
[02:26] <pvangarde> hmm. what was the command to currently loaded modules? lsmod?
[02:26] <santiagokq> soundray: i remember there was some commandline parameter for quickloading it... i'll search
[02:26] <Andy_> just ant to get my wifi card working
[02:26] <rjian> how will i set up firestarter ive already install it wat the next step i will do?
[02:26] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  indeed
[02:26] <TheAsp> willam: cannot change it how?
[02:27] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  but, its all about the freedom of choosing your own path....never about convincing
[02:27] <william__> cannot the resolution in the menus
[02:27] <mcrandello> penguin instead of doing something like "mv /usr /poo" you have to use "sudo mv /usr /poo"
[02:27] <bootlick> sounds like the masons
[02:27] <TheAsp> willam: what menus
[02:27] <mcrandello> (don't do that btw
[02:27] <mcrandello> )
[02:27] <william__> the "change resolution" app
[02:27] <Rug> SillyRabbit: as you may know; some people need to be shown that there is another path
[02:27] <Penguin> sudo username?
[02:27] <bullrage> Anybody know why I can't get sound in Flash Player 7?
[02:27] <william__> in my preferences
[02:27] <Flannel> Penguin: no, sudo is a command
[02:27] <franky123> krazykit: so i did the command, didnt display anything. i added the p4_clockmod to /etc/modules at the end of it. do i need to restart anything now?
[02:27] <TheAsp> william__: *ahem* what change resolution app?   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:27] <mcrandello> no, sudo (command you'd normally type to do things)
[02:27] <earthen> Sorry my internet died,  could someone tell me what to type at the startup so I can install the server version only from the Ubuntu destop install cd
[02:27] <william__> no
[02:27] <Flannel> !tell Penguin about sudo
[02:28] <william__> in the GUI
[02:28] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  evidence is the best though
[02:28] <Penguin> I'm trying to extract a file
[02:28] <krazykit> franky123: no, it should work now.
[02:28] <rjian> !firestarter
[02:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[02:28] <william__> system, preferences then change resolution
[02:28] <krazykit> franky123: though you may need to restart powernowd.
[02:28] <TheAsp> willam: you mean in gnome"?  that will only let you select configured resolutions
[02:28] <rjian> ie can anyone teach me how to use firestarter?
[02:28] <franky123> krazykit: wow, cpufreq is there, thanks. ill restart powernow now
[02:28] <william__> oh I figured after doing the binarys it would change that
[02:28] <Andy_> no one has any suggestions for my issue i'm having with my wireless card (orinoco gold a/b/g)?
[02:28] <mcrandello> seriously though is there a way to restart usb if it pukes and dies?
[02:28] <Trae> awwww, the ubuntuforums wished me a Happy Birthday.  How sweet
[02:29] <SillyRabbit> Trae:  HB2U
[02:29] <Trae> SillyRabbit, heh, danke
[02:29] <Marineboy> !nfts
[02:29] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Marineboy
[02:29] <Marineboy> !ntfs
[02:29] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[02:29] <keithg> Well schucks.
[02:29] <SillyRabbit> Trae:  ur welcome....
[02:29] <Rug> rjian: Did you know that in a default installation of Ubuntu, you don't need to install a firewall?
[02:29] <jbirdAngel> hello
[02:29] <wastrel> ubuntu
[02:30] <rjian> yup ive already install it.. how will i use it to share network connection?
[02:30] <keithg> Anyone think they can give me some hard drive advice?
[02:30] <pianoboy3333> What files does a linux system typically read when booting?
[02:30] <Penguin> I don't get the sudo thing
[02:30] <franky123> krazykit: uhhh, powernowd doesnt say cpufreq doesnt exist, but it says [fail]  now, and i catted the cpufreq dir and theres definitely stuff there... theres lots of numbers that look like clock speeds and "powersave ondemand conservative performance" stuff ...
[02:30] <Flannel> Penguin: did you read the page ubotu sent you?
[02:30] <nickrud> keithg, sure, get the best your money can afford :0
[02:30] <SillyRabbit> Remember, the greatest gift is not found in a store nor under a tree, but in the hearts of true friends. -- Cindy Lew
[02:30] <Penguin> yes
[02:31] <mcrandello> penguin, sudo makes you temporarily have admin priviledges
[02:31] <pvangarde> Penguin: its silly, just chroot and set up your root password
[02:31] <Flannel> pvangarde: no.
[02:31] <TheAsp> pianoboy3333: thousands...  what are you looking for?
[02:31] <Penguin> I just installed ubuntu
[02:31] <Rug> SillyRabbit: quoteing the truth whereever one finds it?
[02:31] <keithg> Nickrud:  Actually I'm just having trouble with one.  I'm not looking to buy one *yet*.
[02:31] <pvangarde> Flannel: and why not?
[02:31] <Flannel> pvangarde: there's no reason to setup a root password.
[02:31] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  i try
[02:31] <mcrandello> pvangarde it's a bad idea to do that if you don't understand what sudo does ;)
[02:31] <nickrud> keithg, ah. Well, in for a penny, in for a pound. What's the issue then
[02:31] <SillyRabbit> Rug:  cheers mate - until next time
[02:32] <Penguin> I'm trying to install the latest version of firefox
[02:32] <Rug> have a good on
[02:32] <Rug> one
[02:32] <krazykit> franky123: is that it?  it just says fail?  if there's a more verbose error... ooh, pastebin me the error from powernowd -v
[02:32] <soundray> Penguin: are you on dapper or breezy?
[02:32] <pianoboy3333> TheAsp: I installed fedora on an external USB drive, and it gets an interesting error that it can't mount some files and such. I followed a guide which helped me create an initrd which included the usb drivers, but I'm still getting the same errors from before :(
[02:32] <Penguin> ummm...
[02:32] <pvangarde> mcrandello: what does it do thats different than su, except making you write it every time you want to execute a command as root?
[02:32] <Penguin> I don't know
[02:32] <Flannel> Penguin: linux has a "root" user (which can do ANYTHING on the computer), and then normal users, who can only do certain things, and can't do some, like... editing system files.  this way you can't accidentally screw up things, and it makes it more secure from a cracking/etc standpoint as well.
[02:32] <soundray> Penguin: what's your current firefox version?
[02:32] <pianoboy3333> TheAsp: I feel as though it's looking for my partiton/drive in the wrong /dev though
[02:33] <Penguin> The default version of firefox that came with ubuntu
[02:33] <Penguin> 1.0.8
[02:33] <TheAsp> pianoboy3333: this isnt #fedora
[02:33] <Surfnmate> 5 more hours til Dapper
[02:33] <william__> thank you TheAsp
[02:33] <soundray> !ff1.5
[02:33] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:33] <william__> I figured it out
[02:33] <mcrandello> pvangarde, I'm just saying that if sudo is confusing then having a root shell is probably dangerous
[02:33] <pianoboy3333> TheAsp: I know, I never asked a question about fedora at first ;)
[02:33] <nickrud> pvangarde, you can use sudo -i for the same effect. The apps are sudo/gksudo aware, and it's the default security model for ubuntu. Simliar advice in similar situations. etc.
[02:33] <bryanl> is webmin included in dapper?
[02:33] <soundray> Penguin: read this page (ubotu) ^^
[02:33] <Flannel> pvangarde: read this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:33] <Penguin> I've looked at that. I'm trying to install firefox
[02:33] <franky123> krazykit: http://pastebin.com/764143
[02:33] <Flannel> soundray: he already read that.
[02:34] <mcrandello> I mean, I usually just go "gksudo xterm" from the applauncher
[02:34] <keithg> nickrud, Well, I have been working on fixing this for a while now.  It started one day when I tried to install dapper onto hda (I have my primary install on hdb) once it got to the formating stage, the installation froze at a certain percentage.  I eventually restarted the computer, and tried again, same problem.  Then I tried a breezy cd, again I get the same problem.  And then I try mke2fs -c -c /dev/hda and I get the same thing.
[02:34] <Flannel> !tell Penguin about ff1.5
[02:34] <Flannel> Penguin: read that, or, you can just upgrade to dapper (newest ubuntu version) which includes 1.5
[02:34] <soundray> Penguin: what's the problem then?
[02:34] <Penguin> I've looked at that page and the rootSudo thing
[02:34] <Penguin> How do I do that
[02:34] <krazykit> franky123: i don't see an error message.
[02:34] <andrewski> trying to install a partition in gparted, getting "At least one operation was applied to a busy device".  have already unmounted it, just to be sure.  any idea why?
[02:34] <Penguin> soundray: I'm trying to install firefox. I can't get the sudo thing to work
[02:35] <sn00p> Do I need to compile support in for my linksys router?
[02:35] <Flannel> Penguin: it'll ask for a password, enter your user password
[02:35] <krazykit> sn00p: no, the OS doesn't affect the router
[02:35] <franky123> krazykit: but when i /etc/init.d/powernowd restart it says stopping powernowd ok starting powernowd fail ... and nothing else
[02:35] <nickrud> keithg, then I'd guess there's something wrong with the hard drive. I assume doing all this on another hard drive worked
[02:35] <soundray> Penguin: what does it say when you run 'sudo ls /root/'
[02:35] <krazykit> franky123: are you doing `sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd restart`?
[02:35] <sn00p> krazykit: I hooked up my linksys router, to my cable modem and then plugged my ethernet cable in and I couldn't get internet my internet is dhcp
[02:36] <mcrandello> peguin, from a console or xterm type 'sudo apt-get install firefox' and after you type your password it will 'apt-get install firefox' as if you were the admin account
[02:36] <keithg> Yeah, in fact before I tried installing dapper, I had a breezy install on hda.
[02:36] <dust> hi. my gnome panel is using 100% of my cpu, and has been for a while. does anyone know why?
[02:36] <keithg> nickrud, Sorry for not specifying you're name at the beginning of that last one.
[02:36] <andrewski> sn00p: you'll probably need to connect to the router's interface to access the internet.
[02:36] <earthen> anyone know how to start the server install from the desktop install CD
[02:36] <andrewski> dust: maybe a plugin, but hard to say.
[02:36] <franky123> krazykit: oh my god, now i really feel stupid. thanks
[02:36] <Flannel> earthen: you can't, I don't think.
[02:36] <bobby> hi i need help with a terminal install
[02:36] <krazykit> franky123: haha, don't worry about it :-D
[02:36] <Mystic_> anyone use a shuttle pc and can comment on linux support?
[02:36] <Rug> bobby: ask your question
[02:37] <krazykit> franky123: i'm glad i went back to step one ;-)
[02:37] <andrewski> dust: deskbar-applet?
[02:37] <santiagokq> dust: kill it and restart it
[02:37] <nickrud> keithg, I saw it. Have you tried running cfdisk on hda and resetting the partitions? Not saying it's the fix, but it's what I'd do next
[02:37] <bobby> any one?
[02:37] <earthen> Flannel, mmm that strange considering it's is basicly the same with out any gui
[02:37] <sn00p> andrevski: what?
[02:37] <dust> andrewski: how would i check?
[02:37] <Rug> bobby: ask your question
[02:37] <keithg> nickrud, I sadly don't know much about fixing these sorts of things.  So I am learning this all as I go.  :)
[02:37] <andrewski> Rug: he just did. ;)
[02:37] <Flannel> earthen: you're talking about the liveCD installer, right?
[02:37] <Penguin> I did that. and it says it is already installed. it still is 1.0.8
[02:38] <nickrud> keithg, is there anything at all on hda you want to save?
[02:38] <andrewski> dust: if you have the plugin, you could check to see if it's responding.  if not that, likely something else.
[02:38] <Marineboy> !mp3
[02:38] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:38] <sn00p> andrewski i said I connected my cable modem to my router
[02:38] <Rug> andrewski: All I saw from bobby was:   bobby> hi i need help with a terminal install
[02:38] <slackern> Mystic_: maybe http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showcat.php?cat=all&stype=1&si=shuttle will help you.
[02:38] <soundray> Mystic_: Shuttles come with very different internals. I got one working with a ATI chipset for Athlon 64
[02:38] <Flannel> Penguin: right, Breezy only has 1.0.8, dapper has 1.5
[02:38] <keithg> nickrud, Nothing at all that's important.
[02:38] <slackern> Mystic_: if you can find your modell there that is.
[02:38] <Penguin> how do I get dapper?
[02:38] <andrewski> sn00p: yes, you need to use the web-based router interface to get an IP address from the modem.
[02:38] <Flannel> !tell Penguin about upgrade
[02:38] <earthen> Flannel, yeah I think so, it's the dapper x86 install cd
[02:38] <nickrud> keithg, run sudo cfdisk in a terminal, and re-partition the drive. Then, try the mk2fs command again
[02:38] <Flannel> earthen: the LiveCD one, right?
[02:38] <Mystic_> soundray: does everything work?
[02:39] <earthen> Flannel, and it bootin into a live cd right now
[02:39] <Flannel> Penguin: update manager should ask you about upgrading, actually.
[02:39] <nickrud> keithg, it'll kill a few minutes if nothing esle
[02:39] <bobby> ok i've been trying to install gtkpod and im in a terminal i did the cd and the ./configure and now when i sign into the root and try the command "make" it says command not reconized
[02:39] <Mystic_> soundray: can you get 3d accel?
[02:39] <[CC] Impsy|NH> can someone help me
[02:39] <soundray> Mystic_: pretty much. ATI X200 works except with Xgl
[02:39] <Flannel> earthen: right, I don't know if you can select a server install from that.  you definately can't choose the LAMP preinstall and stuff.  on the alternative (text-mode) installer, you can just type 'server' and install without ubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <earthen> Flannel, I trying to install the server to an old PII 300 to make a  web caching server and porn filter so the live cd is going freakin slow
[02:39] <[CC] Impsy|NH> can anyone help me with the alternate cd and live cd
[02:39] <nickrud> bobby, why not just sudo apt-get install gtkpod?
[02:39] <andrewski> bobby: why are you compiling gtkpod?
[02:40] <bobby> becuase its not there i tryed that
[02:40] <Flannel> earthen: right, you probably should download the server iso.  you could use alternate installer, but server is 300mb smaller, and has optomized kernels
[02:40] <andrewski> bobby: you'll need to add repositories.
[02:40] <earthen> Flannel, what is the LAMP preinstall
[02:40] <nickrud> bobby, yes it is, if you enable the universe repo, see below
[02:40] <nickrud> !universe
[02:40] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:40] <andrewski> nickrud: sorry, i'm not being very helpful, eh?
[02:40] <mcrandello> for reals guys, let's say that my video card driver completely hosed the usb subsystem, and I'm stuck using a synaptics touchpad, is there any way to force the USB to restart and maybe work again without telinit=6'ing it?
[02:40] <dust> andrewski: what plugin should i check and how do i check a plugin? (and i'm not running the deskbar applet)
[02:41] <nickrud> andrewski, I've typed that answer so often, it's muscle memory now :)
[02:41] <earthen> Flannel, I C I guess I'm gonna have to down load that then
[02:41] <[CC] Impsy|NH> can someone help me with alternate cds and live cds
[02:41] <andrewski> [CC] Impsy|NH: what's your question?
[02:41] <andrewski> dust: just see if you can right-click.  perhaps one of them will not let you.
[02:41] <soundray> !alternate
[02:41] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[02:41] <slackern> mcrandello: maybe removeing the module which handles usb and reloading it.
[02:41] <earthen> Flannel, I have a limit to how much I can down load I downloaded the desktop version last night I was hopinh i could use it to do both
[02:41] <santiagokq> what's the commandline parameter for quickstarting openoffice2 and keeping it resident?
[02:41] <Flannel> earthen: well, you can.
[02:42] <Flannel> earthen: but, the liveCD might be too much for that computer.
[02:42] <Flannel> earthen: since you can't install without going through the liveCD on that computer
[02:42] <nickrud> santiagokq, if you get the answer to that, please pm it to me. I've been looking myself
[02:42] <gnomefreak> santiagokq: there is a package that does that
[02:42] <gnomefreak> theres one for gnoem and one for kde
[02:42] <jbirdAngel> i used adept to get xchat-gnome and xchat systray, how do i enable the systray?
[02:42] <santiagokq> gnomefreak: well that package wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop and gnome-openoffice
[02:43] <bobby> i dont have the settings button
[02:43] <earthen> Flannel, O yeah I know it is! but I have a server set up on the same system fro someone else and it runs and does it's job exptreemly well
[02:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> andrewski: well i used the xubuntu alternate cd to install it, and now when i want to install some packages it asks for the xubuntu live cd, if i burn this and se it can i get those packages?u
[02:43] <santiagokq> gnomefreak: and it worked for me in breezy, without that package
[02:43] <wastrel> santiagokq:  -invisible   according to ooffice -h
[02:43] <slackern> santiagokq: openoffice &  perhaps?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> santiagokq: ubuntu-desktop is fine adn gnome-office is different than OOo
[02:43] <mcrandello> slackern, okay it shouldn't take over a minute to remove a module should it?
[02:43] <nickrud> wastrel, ah, !
[02:43] <Flannel> earthen: right, you can install via that, sure.  you'll just have to remove ubuntu-desktop after you install it.
[02:43] <andrewski> [CC] Impsy|NH: you'll need to change repositories.  h/o a sec
[02:43] <fairy> Got another (hopefully quick) question.  I wanted to have two xservers running, and managed to accomplish that by editing gdm.conf.  However, it takes over one of the terminals that's already got stuff output to it, I don't know what's outputting to that terminal, or how I'd redirect it?
[02:43] <santiagokq> wastrel: thanks let me check it out
[02:43] <damnation> guys, i have a WPC54G wifi pcmcia card in my laptop, how do i get it working in linux? also what software do i use to utilise it ?
[02:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> andrewski: what you mean :P
[02:43] <damnation> apparantly the wpc54gv3 (what i have) works on linux's list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:43] <slackern> mcrandello: I guess it should be instant more or less.
[02:43] <andrewski> [CC] Impsy|NH: i'm explaining; hold on
[02:44] <earthen> Flannel,  yeah that's too bad
[02:44] <neodrummer> ppl,how do i acssec the ubunts firewall
[02:44] <soundray> fairy: pass the -vt option to the X server.
[02:44] <[CC] Impsy|NH> andrewski: k, btw the comp i installed has *no* internet
[02:44] <mcrandello> heh I guess usbhid was a good guess as to which one was hosed :(
[02:44] <jeroenvrp> anyone knows if prelinking openoffice and firefox does really help!?!?!
[02:44] <fairy> soundray, well, what goes on term 8 normally?  it looks like output from startup.
[02:44] <bullrage> checking for X.. configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths.  -- what package do I need to install? Google results recommend kde-base but I don't see why
[02:44] <earthen> Flannel, I'm just gonna have to bite the bullet and down load the server edition, guess I'm gonna have to limit my porn downloadin for this month LOL
[02:44] <fairy> I'm just wondering where that's configured to output there, and if I can move it to term 9 instead.
[02:44] <bobby> hello?
[02:44] <neodrummer> how do i change the firewall ports?
[02:44] <Oni-Dracula> there are 885 people in this channel
[02:45] <Oni-Dracula> that's just insane!
[02:45] <soundray> fairy: normally in /etc/inittab -- let me check
[02:45] <[CC] Impsy|NH> i know
[02:45] <gnomefreak> thats getting low
[02:45] <ElectusUnum> and they all have questions ;)
[02:45] <disinterested_pe> why wont macromedia flash install?
[02:45] <fairy> Oni-Dracula, lots of ubuntu users :)
[02:45] <Rug> Oni-Dracula: yeah Dapper sure got popular
[02:45] <fairy> soundray, much thanks :)
[02:45] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: 64bit or ppc?
[02:45] <jadaz87> Oni-Dracula: there were 1100 on the day dapperreleases
[02:45] <jadaz87> Oni-Dracula: released
[02:45] <disinterested_pe> ppc
[02:45] <Oni-Dracula> I'm glad, fairy and rug
[02:45] <earthen> Flannel, thanks for the info
[02:45] <ElectusUnum> I hate to throw out another question but, anyone here use an EPIA board?
[02:45] <Rug> Oni-Dracula: do me a favor: don'
[02:45] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: flash wont run on ppc nor 64bit you need alternative packages
[02:46] <Rug> ack
[02:46] <neodrummer> i have installed amule, but the port open in my router is unavaillebel
[02:46] <fairy> Unfortunately, my dapper upgrade failed :( so I'm waiting on CDs to get here.
[02:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell disinterested_pe -about flash
[02:46] <Rug> Don't say those two name together again ok?
[02:46] <nickrud> wastrel, no, not that one either
[02:46] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: on that link ubotu pmed you with you will find more info on it
[02:46] <Oni-Dracula> lol
[02:46] <Oni-Dracula> FAIRY RUG!
[02:46] <wastrel> ah well
[02:46] <Rug> hehe
[02:46] <Penguin> is "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS dapper?
[02:46] <disinterested_pe> thanks
[02:46] <Oni-Dracula> O_o
[02:46] <Tedd> Oni-Dracula, I don't think faries have rugs if you get my drift
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Penguin: yes same thing
[02:46] <adamant1988> Wow Tedd
[02:47] <Oni-Dracula> well some fairy's have rugs, but some shave ;)
[02:47] <Tedd> I'm sorry. I haven't slept in over 30 hours.
[02:47] <Rug> hehe
[02:47] <adamant1988> 0_0....
[02:47] <AngryElf> from what I hear Live CDs can 'save' your settings by using a flash drive/stick/whatever, am i correct on this?
[02:47] <fairy> soundray, looking at inittab, it doesn't appear anything is referring to tty8 :/
[02:47] <adamant1988> Ok, I'm going to go back to just marveling at my Ubuntu install
[02:47] <santiagokq> wastrel: when i load it with invisible, it seems to stay resident, but i cannot open any document
[02:47] <soundray> fairy: it's configured in /etc/syslog.conf
[02:47] <Tedd> Oni-Dracula, you're disgusting, I was talking about Fairy's choice in linoleum!
[02:47] <dust> andrewski: they all seem to be working fine.
[02:47] <fairy> soundray, okies, thanks much, let me take a looksie :)
[02:47] <gnomefreak> AngryElf: i would think yes
[02:47] <nickrud> wastrel, it was working, and I lost it
[02:47] <Desh_> What should I use for videos in firefox?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> you can save anything to flash drives
[02:47] <ElectusUnum> Did the ubuntu server install fail for anyone else?
[02:48] <Oni-Dracula> :)
[02:48] <nickrud> frustrating x2
[02:48] <gnomefreak> ElectusUnum: nope only one that did work for me
[02:48] <AngryElf> gnomefreak, is this hard to setup? is there a how-to, and/or, what should i be googling for to get info on it?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> up until today
[02:48] <ElectusUnum> I hear the EPIA people are f***ked
[02:48] <ElectusUnum> On the forums they mention the "alternate install", is that just the desktop version?
[02:48] <Oni-Dracula> I love it when ubuntu breaks, it gives me something to do :)
[02:48] <ElectusUnum> ha
[02:48] <soundray> Desh_: cat video >/dev/null and do something useful with your time, like chatting on IRC ;)
[02:48] <Oni-Dracula> such as when someone decides that upgrading 5.10 to 6.06 is a good idea
[02:48] <Oni-Dracula> WHICH IT'S NOT
[02:48] <gnomefreak> AngryElf: all you would havet o do is save the home dir to flash  i dont htink you can save the full iso to flash you would still need disk to boot live cd
[02:48] <Flannel> ElectusUnum: no.  that's the "alternate" install cd
[02:49] <Rug> ElectusUnum: I gave up on using my Epia a long time ago.  No more VIA stuff for me
[02:49] <ElectusUnum> Rug: Yeah, so I see
[02:49] <adamant1988> I wouldn't advise upgrading... just backup your data and do a clean install...
[02:49] <nickrud> Oni-Dracula, I'm recommending fresh installs
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Oni-Dracula: its a fine idea
[02:49] <krazykit> there's nothing wrong with upgrading.
[02:49] <wastrel> santiagokq:  i dunno ... haven't tried it myself  heh yes i'm seeing that...
[02:49] <Oni-Dracula> yep
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Oni-Dracula: yes nickrud is right always best to go with freshinstalls
[02:49] <adamant1988> My ubuntu fresh install works famously.
[02:49] <Oni-Dracula> theres lots wrong with upgrading...like broken sound, undetected wifi card, all kinds of screwy things
[02:49] <adamant1988> In fact, it's out preformed every other distro on my laptop
[02:49] <fairy>  Soundray, the lin e I Find referencing tty8 appears to be commented out :|  -rummages-
[02:49] <ElectusUnum> Well I guess I'll try the alt install, but for the record STAY AWAY FROM EPIA
[02:49] <adamant1988> it actually enabled  my power button!
[02:50] <fairy> My error when upgrading was 'invalid package information' :P
[02:50] <slackern> I tried upgrading from hoary to breezy and to dapper and that worked well for me, but the installs where just to test :)
[02:50] <Oni-Dracula> my only problem at the moment is fixing my broadcom wifi card
[02:50] <Surfnmate> is anyone running Dapper with XGL
[02:50] <Desh_> What should I use for videos in firefox?
[02:50] <Rug> Upgrading is fine if all of your stuff works 100% BEFORE the upgrade
[02:50] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, whats wrong with it
[02:50] <Desh_> What should I use for videos in firefox now that mplayer is not in the repository for Dapper?
[02:50] <Flannel> Surfnmate: #ubuntu-xgl has people that do ;)
[02:50] <gnomefreak> Surfnmate: xgl is in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:50] <adamant1988> Ubuntu would be THE best desktop linux distro available for consumer use if it came with batteries enabled
[02:50] <Rug> Surfnmate: Yes, for 5 mintus
[02:50] <Surfnmate> Flannel, o right
[02:50] <Surfnmate> thx
[02:51] <adamant1988> IMO
[02:51] <Surfnmate> dont wanna really talk about the subject, just wanted to see how many of you are using it
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Desh_: it is
[02:51] <Oni-Dracula> Surfnmate, it's detected as eth1 just fine, but it won't connect to anything
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Desh_: its in multiverse just as it was in breezy
[02:51] <nickrud> Desh_, mplayer is, enable multiverse
[02:51] <Oni-Dracula> I'm sure there is a forum post somewhere that I can use to fix it
[02:51] <Desh_> I enabled everything...
[02:51] <fairy> Hmmm hmm hmm...
[02:51] <nickrud> Desh_, but totem-xine with totem-xine-firefox-plugin works pretty well
[02:51] <jbirdAngel> does adept completley and cleanly remove/uninstall things ?
[02:51] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, mmm
[02:51] <Oni-Dracula> heck, there is a forum post for EVERY problem
[02:51] <soundray> fairy: comment it in then, and point it to tty9
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Desh_: make sure you enable multiverse not backports
[02:51] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, static and DHCP?
[02:52] <P-NuT> Hey all, is this the best place to ask about zaptel drivers?
[02:52] <wastrel> ah -invisible requires you use the API to interact.  maybe -quickstart is what you're looking for
[02:52] <n0deal> Ok, probably a silly question, but I installed the amd64 version of dapper and everytime I do an apt-get it tells me it can't find the package
[02:52] <P-NuT> in relation to ubuntu?
[02:52] <Desh_> Can someone copy paste the universe repository?
[02:52] <Desh_> I enabled every single one.
[02:52] <n0deal> and I have the other repos enabled as far as I can tell
[02:52] <wastrel> no, -quickstart is deprecated and not available in 2.0
[02:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Desh_ -about repos
[02:52] <fairy> I'll give that a quick try.
[02:52] <P-NuT> Desh_: check packages.ubuntu.com for details
[02:52] <gnomefreak> deskgo to the dapper link in your pm
[02:52] <Oni-Dracula> Surfnmate,  DHCP is enabled, SSID of my network added in, hex wep key in
[02:53] <nickrud> Desh_, see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 for good dapper sources
[02:53] <Oni-Dracula> Surfnmate, I may try using ndiswrapper instead of the kernel driver (bcm43xx)
[02:53] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, i used ndis. works good here
[02:54] <Munchkinguy> What's the root password on the Ubuntu Live CD?
[02:54] <Surfnmate> 43xx wifi card using bcmwl5 driver
[02:54] <skybox> can anyone paste me their xorg.conf that supports 1280x1024? I just lost my entire xorg.conf+I don't know my monitors refresh rate
[02:54] <soundray> Munchkinguy: there isn't one
[02:54] <Oni-Dracula> Surfnmate, what driver did you use? bcmwl5.ini/sys ?
[02:54] <soundray> !tell Munchkinguy about root
[02:54] <Oni-Dracula> ah i see
[02:54] <Oni-Dracula> ill give it a try
[02:55] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, yep, couldnt see the device in the network. but with modprobe it added it. and now I connect to my router. No WEP, DHCP. Netgear router.
[02:55] <Surfnmate> !root
[02:55] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:55] <Surfnmate> ubotu thats not a root
[02:55] <Oni-Dracula> i see
[02:55] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Surfnmate
[02:55] <Surfnmate> hehe
[02:55] <Rug> ElectusUnum: I feel your pain
[02:55] <monkeywk> hello all - was wondering if anyone can tell me where apt-get stores it's commands that it runs after package install?   I attempted to install vmware-player and fuddled it up huge now when i install any package it attempts to run the post-install scripts for vmware and fails my new package install
[02:56] <soundray> monkeywk: /var/lib/dpkg/info
[02:56] <ElectusUnum> Rug: The alt install is apparently working for people, but I can't wait to switch to generic hardware
[02:56] <Munchkinguy> soundray: Thank you
[02:56] <ElectusUnum> Alright, well I'm out -- thanks for the help everyone
[02:57] <jbirdAngel> does adept completely and cleanly remove and uninstall things?
[02:57] <soundray> Munchkinguy: any time
[02:57] <jbirdAngel> if answered before i didnt see  it
[02:57] <skybox> how do I input the right values in xorg.conf to get 1280x1024, I don't know my monitors refresh rate, and reconfigure-xorg-server doesn't change the resolution for me to 1280x1024
[02:57] <Oni-Dracula> jbirdAngel, please contact your original equipment manufacturer as "adept" is not a supported ubuntu somethingoranother ;)
[02:58] <tritium> skybox: you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:58] <Oni-Dracula> cheap tech support for the win!
[02:58] <Surfnmate> skybox, how do u know it supports 12801204
[02:58] <selaiah> Can anyone recommend a font pack? (with Arial, Time news, verdana and those) ?
[02:58] <nickrud> monkeywk, /var/lib/dpkg/info
[02:58] <blankey> does ubuntu work on an intel centrino laptop? :P
[02:58] <skybox> tritium yes I know, because 10 minutes ago I run it in 1280x1024, been doing that for months, but I kinda screwed my xorg.conf so I had to load ubuntu default settings
[02:59] <jbirdAngel> Oni-Dracula: lol why do you say that and lol it popped up in my right hand corner in a little message and i thought it was my computer talkingto me as i jus topened the add/remove adept thing
[02:59] <Surfnmate> skybox, there are xorg.conf backups have you looked there
[02:59] <soundray> jbirdAngel: I'm not an adept adept :) but normally there are two levels of package removal: "remove" and "purge". For full removal, you have to purge.
[02:59] <nickrud> monkeywk, look for <packagename>.postinst
[02:59] <skybox> surfnmate where
[02:59] <jbirdAngel> soundray: okay thank you
[02:59] <Oni-Dracula> im sorry jbirdAngel
[02:59] <jbirdAngel> its okay
[03:00] <Surfnmate> skybox, same folder i believe let me check
[03:00] <nickrud> selaiah, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[03:00] <Surfnmate> Skwid_, yeap i can send you one of my files
[03:00] <jbirdAngel> can i edit my notify settings in xchat-gnome or do i have to do that in xchat regular?
[03:00] <Surfnmate> skybox, sorry that was for you
[03:00] <[CC] Impsy|NH> andrewski: hellO?
[03:00] <Oni-Dracula> xchat-gnome is.....weak...
[03:01] <Surfnmate> skybox, im on 1280x800 not sure if that helps but you could try
[03:01] <nickrud> xchat-gnome is ... unusable.
[03:01] <pppoe_dude> any ideas why evolution is giving me this when trying to send encrypted mail (PGP): Failed to execute gpg: Broken pipe ?
[03:01] <soundray> xchat-gnome is just fine
[03:01] <selaiah> thanks a bunch nickrud
[03:01] <pppoe_dude> it didnt ask me for recepient's key
[03:01] <Surfnmate> pppoe_dude, need a pgp key?
[03:01] <nickrud> selaiah, yw
[03:02] <Oni-Dracula> nothing wrong with standard xchat anyway...I even find it superior to mIRC
[03:02] <Surfnmate> pppoe_dude, disable pgp encryption
[03:02] <nickrud> soundray, I needed to say that once.
[03:02] <i> i speak binary
[03:02] <blankey> I keep getting debootstrap warnings when I'm trying to install ubuntu. The integrity tool in the setup menu says the CD is valid though. What could be causing this?
[03:02] <jbirdAngel> some things i like about it that i cant change in xchat like the channel window, plus xchat regular doesnt give any notice of new messages in a room like gnome odes or the other ones that chang ethe tabs color, or did i miss it?
[03:02] <pppoe_dude> Surfnmate, i need to encrypt
[03:02] <Rhine> If a folder is unreadable how can I force to erase it I have tried chmod to give me permission but it wont let me delete it
[03:02] <Surfnmate> pppoe_dude, oops
[03:02] <i> i speak binary
[03:02] <Marineboy> this is confusing.
[03:02] <pppoe_dude> i have both keys, but evolution only asks for my pass to sign then gives erre
[03:02] <nickrud> i, and?
[03:02] <Surfnmate> oos
[03:02] <Surfnmate> sorry
[03:02] <i> a speak binary
[03:02] <Oni-Dracula> that's dirty soundray
[03:02] <i> 00110001
[03:03] <soundray> Oni-Dracula: it wasn't meant to be
[03:03] <Surfnmate> pppoe_dude, not sure why really
[03:03] <MaKkY> im getting an error when trying to install a *.deb file
[03:03] <Oni-Dracula> uh huh
[03:03] <jbirdAngel> does xchat let me know when someone writes in a room on its channel tab?
[03:03] <Rhine> If a folder is unreadable how can I force to erase it I have tried chmod to give me permission but it wont let me delete it
[03:03] <scabootssca_> i dont
[03:03] <bullrage> pah, 15 minutes to make gnash and it gives me an error.. back to google
[03:04] <Oni-Dracula> jbirdAngel, it turns the channel tab name red when theres new text in the room/tab
[03:04] <MaKkY> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs
[03:04] <blankey> Does anyone have an idea? :(
[03:04] <soundray> bullrage: that's alpha software for you... Please write a wiki page when you've succeeded :)
[03:04] <jbirdAngel> well does xchat use tabs like chatzilla or a list window like xchat gnome, cuz it looked like xchat gnomes to me, and it didnt seem to change color
[03:04] <jbirdAngel> for that
[03:05] <wycats> I upgraded my hardware, and X won't start correctly... How can I get ubuntu to re-recognize my device...
[03:05] <jbirdAngel> does xchat have the little system pop up window that displays what is said in a message with my name in it if im not in xchat?
[03:05] <soundray> wycats: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:05] <krazykit> MaKkY: to fix this, download and install http://www.artfiles.org/ubuntu.com/archive/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs_6.8.2-77_all.deb   ... though doing it like this is kinda frowned upon.
[03:05] <Rhine> Anyone know how to erase an unreadble folder?
[03:05] <wycats> Can I do it from the install CD?
[03:05] <Oni-Dracula> jbirdAngel, use standard xchat, not xchat-gnome and you will have the features you want
[03:05] <bullrage> soundray, aye.. looks like a bug in the package more than anything, i don't think I can sort it
[03:05] <selaiah> apt-get install mstcorefonts doesnt work fo rme Nickrud. Synaptic doesnt find that package either
[03:05] <MaKkY> krazykit: why is it frowned upon?
[03:05] <selaiah> any clue?
[03:05] <krazykit> Rhine: sudo rm
[03:05] <nickrud> selaiah, do you have the multiverse repo enabled?
[03:06] <blankey> ;/
[03:06] <lee_> Hi, I've got a wierd issue. This has happened twice, and just happened now. I'll go afk for 5 minutes or so (the screen saver goes on a 1 minutes idle) and I'll come back and it will be at the Ubuntu Login screen. Totally Logged off! I have to log back in. I'ts very strange.... any thoughts?
[03:06] <soundray> bullrage: if you can't sort it, report it
[03:06] <krazykit> MaKkY: well, you're installing libraries from an untrusted source.
[03:06] <selaiah> I'm quite sure, I'll double check, nickrud
[03:06] <jbirdAngel> well should xchat have tabs like gnome or a list window like xchat gnome, if it has tabs then what i have called xchat isnt xchat
[03:06] <bullrage> soundray, it already has been
[03:06] <_mason> Where can i find xlibs ? i need it to install Cegeta
[03:06] <Surfnmate> !cegeta
[03:06] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Surfnmate
[03:06] <cha0tic> Greetings, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop - latest release - working great so far, aside from some minor problems with my wireless and sound, as well as my dvdplayer -- not to worried about wireless atm, more concerned about why my sound card is not working -- its showing up under device manager, but  when i click on volume control it shows: no volume control gstreamer plugins and/or devices found
[03:06] <krazykit> _mason:  http://www.artfiles.org/ubuntu.com/archive/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs_6.8.2-77_all.deb
[03:06] <Oni-Dracula> jbirdAngel, give me a second and ill give you a screenshot :p
[03:06] <Rhine> Er its a directory would that make a difference?
[03:06] <selaiah> ah no i only have universe, How do i add Multiverse nickrud? =D
[03:06] <jbirdAngel> okay thank you
[03:07] <Surfnmate> cha0tic, where from
[03:07] <bullrage> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15226 can this be fixed by me?
[03:07] <selaiah> ah got it now
[03:07] <cha0tic> surfnmate ? where is what from ?
[03:07] <_mason> Thankyou krazykit
[03:07] <krazykit> _mason and MaKkY, i got that link from the opera9 beta guide, in case you wanted to know.  it was part of their install requirements with that same error
[03:07] <Surfnmate> cha0tic, where ya from
[03:07] <nickrud> selaiah, wherever universe appears, add multiverse to the end of the line
[03:07] <cha0tic> tx
[03:07] <Rhine> krazykit, it says it is a directory and it wont allow me to remove it
[03:07] <Surfnmate> cha0tic, ah dallas?
[03:07] <cha0tic> close to it
[03:08] <krazykit> Rhine: sudo rm -f
[03:08] <Surfnmate> cha0tic, remembered that name from a while back
[03:08] <lee_> Hi, I've got a wierd issue. This has happened twice, and just happened now. I'll go afk for 5 minutes or so (the screen saver goes on a 1 minutes idle) and I'll come back and it will be at the Ubuntu Login screen. Totally Logged off! I have to log back in. I'ts very strange.... any thoughts?                            anybody? lol
[03:08] <wycats> Is there a way to get the ubuntu installer to install OVER an existing installation?
[03:08] <soundray> bullrage: I'll hazard a wild guess... Have you got libpng12-dev installed?
[03:08] <blankey> I keep getting debootstrap warnings when I'm trying to install ubuntu. The integrity tool in the setup menu says the CD is valid though. What could be causing this? - Kind of seems weird to me :(
[03:08] <MaKkY> krazykit: thanks for the info...
[03:08] <krazykit> Rhine: but be careful.  sudo rm-ing stuff can break your system badly.
[03:09] <vdepizzol> why ubuntu can't come with mp3 codec?
[03:09] <soundray> wycats: yes, just reformat the partition
[03:09] <krazykit> vdepizzol: liscensing issues
[03:09] <wycats> nah
[03:09] <Rhine> sudo rm -f /media/hda1/Druganaut
[03:09] <Rhine>  and it outputs rm: cannot remove `/media/hda1/Druganaut': Is a directory
[03:09] <wycats> I don't want to reformat
[03:09] <soundray> vdepizzol: because the creators don't allow it
[03:09] <Rhine> Yeah its on a seperate drive
[03:09] <Rhine> i can restore it all
[03:09] <Rug> Rhine: ntfs partition?
[03:09] <wycats> I want to install while maintaining my existing partition
[03:09] <Rhine> No its ext2
[03:09] <krazykit> Rhine: well, BE DAMN CAREFUL WITH THIS... sudo rm -fr
[03:09] <bullrage> soundray, I do now. However, i'll let you know when it's finishing making the thing again
[03:09] <soundray> vdepizzol: write to the Fraunhofer Institut and complain
[03:09] <vdepizzol> others distros already come with mp3 codec or no?
[03:09] <bullrage> soundray, works now, thanks
[03:10] <Rhine> I/O error :( i think ill just partition and restore the files
[03:10] <nickrud> vdepizzol, yes they do
[03:10] <krazykit> vdepizzol: suse does, but it's a german distro, and thus under slightly different restrictions.
[03:10] <Oni-Dracula> maybe more than a minute...seems my bandwidth be gone
[03:10] <soundray> krazykit: it was German once, now it's Novell
[03:10] <lee_> Is ubuntu supported by donations? or what?
[03:10] <vdepizzol> so?
[03:10] <jbirdAngel> okay no problem, thank you anyways :)
[03:10] <_buzz> suse oss doesn't have mp3 i think
[03:11] <nickrud> lee_, a foundation runs the budget, I think
[03:11] <Oni-Dracula> lee_, ubuntu is financially supported by canonical (sp?)
[03:11] <Kovecses> suse 9.1 (the last version i used) had mp3
[03:11] <lee_> Oh Okay.
[03:11] <Oni-Dracula> and canonical is supported by a former NASA austronaut...who is really really fucking rich
[03:11] <lee_> haha
[03:11] <Penguin> I have to extra keys on my mouse. In Windows in firefox/IE it makes the browser go forward and backward. can I do that in ubuntu
[03:11] <Flannel> Oni-Dracula: language
[03:11] <Kovecses> but ubuntu has mp3 easy enough
[03:11] <Surfnmate> Oni-Dracula, watch the ethikZ
[03:11] <soundray> Oni-Dracula: not a NASA astronaut
[03:11] <purserj> Oni-Dracula, not former NASA
[03:12] <nuambenzina> ?
[03:12] <Kovecses> HAHAHAH hes not NASA
[03:12] <Rhine> Thanks for the help krazykit ill just reformat it
[03:12] <soundray> Oni-Dracula: KGB cosmonaut is closer ;)
[03:12] <purserj> Paid 20 million to russians to get to ISS
[03:12] <Oni-Dracula> wow, corrected by 4 different people :) I MUST BE WRONG
[03:12] <nickrud> lee_, last thing I read about it was http://www.canonical.com/news/UbuntuFoundation
[03:12] <nuambenzina> ISS rocks!
[03:12] <vdepizzol> Kovecses: it's easy to install mp3 codec but isn't easier
[03:13] <lee_> Oh Mark Shuttleworth
[03:13] <lee_> yeah he's pretty well off
[03:13] <soundray> lee_: lwn linked to an interview with Mark Shuttleworth recently
[03:13] <Marineboy> im having the same prob with mp3
[03:13] <Surfnmate> yeah the Russian International Secret Service rulez
[03:13] <jbirdAngel> are the channel tabs supposed to be up top like this? http://keule.dac-clan.org/pics/xchat.png
[03:13] <usermount> kennie
[03:13] <usermount> hi
[03:13] <Kovecses> i can never stick to a distro
[03:13] <usermount> i new en ubuntu...i need help ..with fplayer
[03:13] <HellDragon> if i update "nvidia-glx" i will have to reconfigure all the driver and everything ?
[03:14] <MaKkY> anyone here know how to use cedega? I downloaded it from torrentspy...
[03:14] <Kovecses> fedora, debian, Ubuntu, gentoo  are the ones i always switch between
[03:14] <MaKkY> i have already installed it
[03:14] <Oni-Dracula> ugh i need to restart...brb
[03:14] <soundray> HellDragon: no
[03:14] <pyroride> hello everyone. I just installed ubuntu for the first time ever!
[03:14] <meta-ridley> linux on the ibook.. anyone find their laptop actually runs hotter under linux?
[03:14] <HellDragon> you're sure ? i dont want to do all the thing i did to make them work soundray
[03:14] <soundray> pyroride: congratulations
[03:14] <nuambenzina> ahh not Russian International Secret Service, ISS- Internet Security Sistems www.iss.net
[03:14] <Kovecses> pyroride, WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO
[03:14] <pyroride> :)
[03:14] <painkiler> hey guys
[03:14] <soundray> HellDragon: I've done it many times
[03:14] <pyroride> my wireless works and all that jazz
[03:14] <painkiler> how would you explain this error? http://flickr.com/photos/evilmac/113630855/
[03:14] <purserj> anyone tried installing dapper on one of the older proliants?
[03:15] <painkiler> And how do i get out of it?
[03:15] <pyroride> the only problem i have is my screen is too wide.. there's about a half inch of my screen stretched out of view -->
[03:15] <Surfnmate> nuambenzina, i was being historically sarcastic, glad it worked =D
[03:15] <painkiler> I tryed dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[03:15] <vdepizzol> example: In Brazil, there aren't software patents. Why Ubuntu can't come, here in Brazil, with MP3 codec?
[03:15] <nuambenzina> aa
[03:15] <painkiler> but it says i don't have xserver-org
[03:15] <bullrage> this just doesn't make sense. If I go onto myspace in windows I can listen to music on people's profiles. However, I've installed macromedias flash version and now gnash and neither will play the sound
[03:15] <Surfnmate> pyroride, what GPU u got
[03:15] <pyroride> i have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
[03:15] <Kovecses> the codec is beyond easy to install
[03:16] <nickrud> painkiler, nearly always that's fixed with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:16] <pyroride> i just ran easyUbuntu and it installed drivers for ATI
[03:16] <painkiler> x org
[03:16] <painkiler> sorry
[03:16] <painkiler> i forgot
[03:16] <Surfnmate> pyroride,  with wide screen, what size
[03:16] <cha0tic> just installed ubuntu, and im having a hard time getting my snd card to work - it shows up under device manager but i cant play any sound -- when i try to open volume control it either says i dont have the right GStreeamer plugins or there is no device installed --- how do i fix this ?
[03:16] <soundray> vdepizzol: this is not just an issue of software patents
[03:16] <lee_> Makky: check your PM
[03:16] <lee_> please
[03:16] <Kovecses> cha0tic, what card?
[03:16] <pyroride> 17" lcd, non wide-screen.. it's in the 1280x1024 res
[03:16] <cha0tic> its a built in card that came with my laptop
[03:17] <init_6> Hello all having a serious freezing up problem with Dell XPS and 6.06.  Once I get to the desktop I've got just a couple minutes until machine locks up.
[03:17] <cha0tic> not sure on the chipset, lemme check lspci
[03:17] <nickrud> vdepizzol, least common denominator (plus the spirit of the debian free software guidelines)
[03:17] <soundray> vdepizzol: but you can probably redistribute Ubuntu with added MP3 functionality in Brazil if you want to.
[03:17] <disinterested_pe> so is there another browser toolbar (search engine) for mozilla browser?
[03:17] <Surfnmate> pyroride, oh opposite mmm
[03:17] <MaKkY> lee_: i dont have any Pm's
[03:17] <Kovecses> hehe frozen trout
[03:17] <cha0tic> 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 A udio Controller (rev 02)
[03:17] <bullrage> disinterested_pe, why do you need one? You can use the default search box in the firefox GUI to search different engines
[03:18] <cha0tic> ac'97
[03:18] <Surfnmate> pyroride, no luck changing screen size?
[03:18] <pyroride> is there any way to adjust the position of the screen image in ubuntu?
[03:18] <lee_> Can you join #MaKky then please
[03:18] <nuambenzina> disinterested_pe, search on firefox/mozilla site not on distro`s site.
[03:18] <lee_> lol
[03:18] <Kovecses> cha0tic, hmm should work by default
[03:18] <cha0tic> well i hear the system beeps when you first start ubuntu - but after that, theres nothing
[03:18] <disinterested_pe> i was looking to istall yahoo search in moziaal's browser
[03:18] <Red-Sox> Is it possible to run Ubuntu Linux inside of Windows?
[03:18] <rpedro> MaKkY: what's your problem now? :)
[03:18] <daniel_bergamini> alright, how do I set a blank password (no removing the password from /etc/shadow does not work)
[03:18] <disinterested_pe> mozilla
[03:18] <soundray> pyroride: try xvidtune
[03:18] <adamant1988> Red-Sox with VM software
[03:18] <Red-Sox> adamant1988> Is it free?
[03:18] <init_6> Red-Sox VMWare
[03:19] <MaKkY> rpedro: nothing... lol just here to chat...
[03:19] <Kovecses> Red-Sox, first off .... go sox ... second vmware
[03:19] <adamant1988> Red-Sox: you can get it free.
[03:19] <nickrud> pyroride, it's easiest to use the monitor controls, but I think it can be done with xvidtune & making mode lines. Overkill In my opinion
[03:19] <daniel_bergamini> passwd -d does not work either
[03:19] <rpedro> MaKkY: ah ok lol
[03:19] <Surfnmate> soundray, i think he wants to adjust his whole wide view
[03:19] <tonybaloney> hi, i'm having trouble with installing Ubuntu
[03:19] <Red-Sox> Kovecses> w00t w00t!
[03:19] <bullrage> Can anybody offer any solutions to why sounds in flash objects don't play correctly when they do on other operating systems
[03:19] <pyroride> soundray, nickrud: thanks ill try
[03:19] <vdepizzol> soundray: isn't insteresting have two .iso files? One without codecs, java, etc; and other with all, to be used in countries that don't have software patents?
[03:19] <tonybaloney> it locks up on boot after installing from the CD
[03:19] <Red-Sox> adamant1988> Like PearPC
[03:19] <krazykit> bullrage: because macromedia doesn't care about linux.
[03:19] <cha0tic> any ideas Kovecses ?
[03:19] <bullrage> krazykit, i've tried gnash too
[03:19] <Kovecses> cha0tic, google
[03:20] <soundray> vdepizzol: you are confused about what software patents mean.
[03:20] <disinterested_pe> so does that red hat package in synaptic allow u to install red hat software?
[03:20] <krazykit> bullrage: eh?  gnash?
[03:20] <soundray> vdepizzol: the problem that you are talking about is being addressed by EasyUbuntu anyway
[03:20] <bullrage> krazykit, http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnash
[03:20] <nickrud> vdepizzol, the dev's only have so much time to support things, for one.
[03:20] <Surfnmate> cha0tic, the ubuntu forum and the wiki have tons of answers i looked there to get my stuff up
[03:20] <vdepizzol> right... ok
[03:21] <Flannel> vdepizzol: it's easier to just not, and have them be installable after.  Much fewer potential lawsuits.
[03:21] <krazykit> bullrage: well, simply, flash just isn't well supported in linux.  macromedia/adobe promises better support when they get around to releasing flash 9 though.
[03:21] <nickrud> vdepizzol, then, they'd have to figure out what not to put on the unfree disk to make space for the unfree stuff.
[03:21] <vdepizzol> yes...
[03:21] <bullrage> krazykit, is there an ETA on that?
[03:22] <vdepizzol> thanks
[03:22] <krazykit> bullrage: a few weeks after windows/mac is released, but i don't know when that is.  i think they have a dev blog somewhere though
[03:22] <Kovecses> 5 hours fro dapper?
[03:22] <bullrage> krazykit, thanks.
[03:22] <Flannel> bullrage: 8 was just released at the end of last year
[03:22] <soundray> nickrud, Flannel: well argued... and after all, Ubuntu is primarily about freedom, isn't it
[03:22] <Kovecses> and linux is still on 7
[03:23] <eternale1> i don't get why i still can't get flash to work
[03:23] <eternale1> in firefox
[03:23] <Kovecses> eternale1, amd64?
[03:23] <eternale1> no
[03:23] <nickrud> soundray, +1
[03:23] <eternale1> just a regular old crappy box
[03:23] <avis> did you follow the symlink steps for firefox and dapper ?   they weren't the first listed
[03:23] <disinterested_pe>    eternal mine works in mozilla but not in firefox
[03:24] <eternale1> hmm
[03:24] <Marineboy> will libarts1-mpeglib
[03:24] <Marineboy> mpeglib plugin for aRts, supporting mp3 and mpeg audio/video work for playing mp3?
[03:24] <avis> for sun-java
[03:24] <soundray> eternale1: can you see the plugin listed when you enter "about:plugins" in the address field
[03:24] <valehru> Hey guys, can someone explain to me why sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start leads to a blue screen with errors while startx brings me straight into gnome?
[03:24] <yurka> guys
[03:24] <yurka> nvm
[03:24] <disinterested_pe> eternale1 do u have mozilla browser installed?
[03:24] <eternale1> yes i can
[03:24] <pyroride> does anyone know how to make the firefox icon be the proper one
[03:24] <eternale1> soundray:
[03:24] <soundray> nickrud: I appreciate your work. We have to be interoperable while we're waiting for the world to become enlightened ;)
[03:24] <pyroride> my firefox icon is a globe
[03:25] <charle97> marineboy: what app are you using to play mp3s?
[03:25] <eternale1>     File name: libflashplayer.so
[03:25] <eternale1>     Shockwave Flash 7.0 r63
[03:25] <yurka> is there a virtual cdrom emulator for linux?
[03:25] <Kovecses> dude right click select properties?
[03:25] <soundray> eternale1: are there any other plugins competing for that data type?
[03:25] <nickrud> soundray, so off topic, but even the debian developers keep non-free repos around :)
[03:25] <Marineboy> charle97, im on Ubuntu with Kubuntu desktop.
[03:25] <Rug> yurka: You don't need one
[03:25] <valehru> let me explain again: Hey guys, can someone explain to me why sudo /etc/init.d/gdm leads to a blue screen with errors while startx brings me straight into gnome
[03:25] <Abnix> \o:  what the crap happened to my firefox?  middle-click to paste a link no longer works...
[03:25] <qkslvrwolf> is there any reason that the torrents for 6.06 are downloading 5.10?
[03:26] <Rug> yurka: create an ISO of the CD, and mount it anywhere you want
[03:26] <charle97> marineboy: amarok?
[03:26] <Marineboy> charlie97 yeah.
[03:26] <krazykit> yurka: mount -o loop -t auto /path/to/file.iso /mnt/point
[03:26] <Flannel> qkslvrwolf: they shouldn't be.
[03:26] <charle97> marineboy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189060
[03:26] <Rug> krazykit: thanks
[03:26] <[CC] Impsy|NH> can sonmeone help me wtih the alternate cd and liveccd
[03:26] <Marineboy> thanks charlie97
[03:26] <eternale1> soundray: doesn't look to be any others that are of swf type
[03:26] <[CC] Impsy|NH> please>
[03:27] <qkslvrwolf> I know.  Hence the curiousity.  I downloaded what said it was the 6.06 torrent, and the file it left is 5.10
[03:27] <vemon388> hey ya all!
[03:27] <qkslvrwolf> I just did it again to make sure
[03:27] <soundray> Abnix: just configure it. And please help keep this channel G-rated.
[03:27] <qkslvrwolf> same thing
[03:27] <qkslvrwolf> actually...I think I know what may have happened
[03:27] <qkslvrwolf> hold on
[03:27] <vemon388> question, How do I install gnome in xubuntu?
[03:27] <Kovecses> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <krazykit> vemon388: install ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <disinterested_pe> im sure glad i downloaded rush exit stage left movie while i had windows
[03:27] <[CC] Impsy|NH> can someone help me with the Alternate Cds and Live Ds
[03:27] <Kovecses> ask the question [CC] Impsy|NH
[03:27] <soundray> eternale1: sorry, I'm out of suggestions now.
[03:27] <[CC] Impsy|NH> *cds
[03:28] <avis> what program based will xubuntu accept ?
[03:28] <avis> base
[03:28] <avis> fluxbox
[03:28] <krazykit> avis: what do you mean?
[03:28] <eternale1> soundray: :( thanks for the help anyways
[03:28] <avis> in fluxbox and xubuntu what program base can i use ? kde or gnome ?
[03:28] <nuambenzina> [CC] Impsy|NH, alternate cd =?!?!?!?!
[03:28] <eternale1> ill find it :)
[03:28] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Well i installed Xubuntu on my internetless computer and i need some packages and it asks for the xubuntu live cd (i think its the xubuntu) to get the other packages. Can i burn the cd with live on it and e the packages.
[03:28] <avis> because i'm seriously addicted to gnome-terminal
[03:29] <krazykit> avis: both.  any dependencies are taken care of.  gtk is preferred though
[03:29] <avis> ok
[03:29] <krazykit> avis: try out Terminal, xfce's terminal program
[03:29] <avis> ok
[03:29] <KuLover> Anyone having problems in here updating amaroK?
[03:29] <Rug> avis: kde/gnome/whatever it doesn't matter  you can install anything
[03:29] <Ron_o> you can try out any app under xubuntu.
[03:29] <daniel_bergamini> please help me setup a blank password so I can run administrative tools without a password with my tablet pc?
[03:29] <KuLover> Anyone having problems in here updating amaroK?
[03:29] <Flannel> daniel_bergamini: erm. what?
[03:29] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Well i installed Xubuntu on my internetless computer and i need some packages and it asks for the xubuntu live cd (i think its the xubuntu) to get the other packages. Can i burn the cd with live on it and get the packages.
[03:29] <KuLover> oops sry for double post
[03:30] <krazykit> KuLover: to what version?
[03:30] <Rug> KuLover: did you upgrade from Breezy?
[03:30] <KuLover> 1.4 fast forward
[03:30] <Abnix> soundray: I'm curious, where is this configuration at?  I'm not seeing it in the Edt/Preferences dialog box
[03:30] <avis> [CC] Impsy|NH, it wants the cd you used to install
[03:30] <KuLover> Im on dapper 64but
[03:30] <KuLover> 64 bit
[03:30] <daniel_bergamini> Flannel I can't figure out how to configure pam to accept blank passwords, deleting them in /etc/shadow or passwd -d doesn't let it authenticate
[03:30] <Rug> KuLover: upgrade it from what then?
[03:30] <Flannel> daniel_bergamini: why would you WANT that?
[03:30] <kurt314> It's official. Ubuntu hates me. I just can't get the ATI drivers installed without my Ubuntu system not coming back up afterwords.
[03:31] <[CC] Impsy|NH> avis: i used the alternate cd to install tho
[03:31] <Rug> kurt314: no Ubuntu loves you.  Ati hates you
[03:31] <krazykit> kurt314: no, ati drivers are just horrid.
[03:31] <KuLover> Oh, the version before it i suppose, I hadnt checked
[03:31] <daniel_bergamini> Flannel because my tablet doesn't have a keyboard
[03:31] <Rug> KuLover: it matters.
[03:31] <Surfnmate> exactly, caress ATI
[03:31] <avis> [CC] Impsy|NH, to install xubuntu ?
[03:31] <[CC] Impsy|NH> avis: yes
[03:31] <soundray> Abnix: go to about:config, filter for middle, set middlemouse.contentLoadURL to true
[03:31] <daniel_bergamini> and unlocking the screen and running administrative apps is impossible unless I dock
[03:31] <Rug> KuLover: nuke amarok and reinstall
[03:31] <kurt314> I can't deal with the artifacts in the drivers that Ubuntu has otherwise
[03:31] <KuLover> I tried, Rug, no success
[03:31] <avis> [CC] Impsy|NH, have you tried it ?
[03:32] <[CC] Impsy|NH> avis: well i think so.
[03:32] <Weirdbro> Is there a .tiff plugin for firefox?
[03:32] <Weirdbro> I couldn't find one.
[03:32] <Rug> KuLover: what error are you getting?
[03:32] <avis> well i think things and i am often wrong.
[03:32] <[CC] Impsy|NH> avis: doesnt the live cd come with more?
[03:32] <nickrud> doesn't firefox do tiff natively?
[03:32] <daniel_bergamini> Flannel I'm not saying it's safe or smart, just convenient
[03:32] <avis> it doesn't matter :)
[03:32] <avis> it wants what it wasnt
[03:32] <Weirdbro> Not on ubuntu
[03:32] <avis> wants
[03:32] <kurt314> So, now I guess I will have to install Ubuntu for the 11th time
[03:32] <kurt314> tiring
[03:33] <KuLover> Jusr install(BREAK), Rug
[03:33] <deleted> any ruby users out there?  getting gem working on ubuntu is driving me nuts.
[03:33] <Rug> KuLover: you will have to be more specific
[03:33] <renren> darin manulat
[03:34] <KuLover> Rug, where should I look for more info for you?
[03:34] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: would pasting the password with the middle mouse button be an option for you?
[03:34] <Rug> KuLover: launch amarok from a terminal
[03:34] <DarkMageZ> under windows, when i middle clicked, it would give me this nice circle thing, and all i had to do to scroll around was move the mouse. how to i get this under ubuntu firefox :)
[03:34] <nickrud> Weirdbro, so I see
[03:34] <KuLover> Its dead, rug, uninstalled
[03:34] <asdx> hi
[03:35] <krazykit> DarkMageZ: i know the answer.  gimme a sec
[03:35] <Rug> KuLover: can you install it?
[03:35] <asdx> i'm trying to erase a cdrw on windows using nero and i get 'error in erasing' all the time, do you knwo a good cdrw burner?
[03:35] <Rug> KuLover: Did you upgrade from Breezy?
[03:35] <valehru> ok so can anyone explain why when the OS boots the xserver fails and gives errors, however when I login on the console and type startx it automatically boots into gnome?
[03:35] <Weirdbro> Nickrud: It seems I'd need to use mozplugger with ImageMagick according to 1 website, but I was hoping there was a better wat
[03:35] <KuLover> No, under the requeted calumn, it says install(Break)
[03:35] <KuLover> Rug
[03:35] <daniel_bergamini> soundray my tablet does not have a middle mouse buttom
[03:35] <Rug> asdx: for Linux/Ubuntu?    K3b
[03:35] <krazykit> DarkMageZ: install tabmix plus.  it has an option for it.
[03:35] <daniel_bergamini> button
[03:36] <tonybaloney> hey i'm getting a lockup when i first boot the machine (like right after GRUB loads the kernel), it then reboots and starts again, locking up and rebooting
[03:36] <tonybaloney> any ideas?
[03:36] <escobar5> hello, i'm having problems with my ipod, it is not recognized, it is a 3rd Gen Ipod, Windows Formated, and the dmesg output is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15228
[03:36] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: does it have a left and right mouse button?
[03:36] <daniel_bergamini> soundray or mouse really of any kind, it has a pen, and you can click a soft button for a single left click, so I can't even chord
[03:36] <[CC] Impsy|NH> so does anyone know if i when i install xubuntu with the alternate cd i can put in the xubuntu live cd and get packages from it?
[03:36] <Rug> KuLover: open a terminal window and type:    sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-xine
[03:36] <asdx> Rug: for windows, i'm trying to burn the disc for burn ubuntu on it
[03:36] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: oh
[03:36] <DarkMageZ> krazykit, not available in the repos?
[03:36] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: how do you paste?
[03:36] <sn00p> How do I do basic computer networking in linux?
[03:36] <renren> darin loves u
[03:36] <Rug> asdx: this cahnnel is for ubuntu Linux
[03:36] <krazykit> DarkMageZ: it's an extension :-P
[03:36] <nickrud> Weirdbro, I used to use mozplugger a lot, for video & the like. Things got smarter, so I stopped. I guess it's time to look at it again.
[03:36] <renren> darin loves u
[03:36] <Rug> channel
[03:37] <asdx> pff
[03:37] <[CC] Impsy|NH> so does anyone know if i when i install xubuntu with the alternate cd i can put in the xubuntu live cd and get packages from it?
[03:37] <DarkMageZ> krazykit, :P yeah, some extentions are available in the repos tho
[03:37] <krazykit> DarkMageZ: this one isn't :-D
[03:37] <daniel_bergamini> soundray I don't I just started using it, was hoping to have it to browse the web or something... on screen keyboard
[03:37] <Weirdbro> nickrud: I'll probably only use it for things like tiff without proper viewers
[03:37] <Rug> asdx: I stopped using Windows 2 years ago
[03:37] <asdx> ok, whatever
[03:37] <KuLover> Rug, deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[03:37] <KuLover> Rug, Whoops, wrong paste
[03:37] <Rug> =)
[03:37] <kurt314> I am using Windows right now because Ubuntu won't play nice with the ATI drivers
[03:38] <KuLover> Rug,
[03:38] <KuLover> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:38] <KuLover>   amarok: Depends: libexscalibar1 but it is not going to be installed
[03:38] <KuLover>           Depends: libifp4 but it is not installable
[03:38] <KuLover>           Depends: libvisual0.2 (>= 0.2.0) but it is not installable
[03:38] <Rug> !paste
[03:38] <[CC] Impsy|NH> so does anyone know if i when i install xubuntu with the alternate cd i can put in the xubuntu live cd and get packages from it?
[03:38] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[03:38] <asdx> I need another burner software for windows, is there some free burner that also support widnows?
[03:38] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: right, all xubuntu ISOs can be used as repositories
[03:38] <dou213> hey i've installed xfce and kde and now whenever i turn off and boot the pc it doesn't come the same image like before, for gde... how can i restore it?
[03:38] <Rug> KuLover: ok good.  what happens when you type:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:38] <Mikamura_Kaoru>  <kurt314> I am using Windows right now because Ubuntu won't play nice with the ATI drivers >> Are there any solution to cope with ATi VGA Card?
[03:38] <Rug> asdx: Linux
[03:39] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, umm so when i installed with the alternate cd it came with less stuff i needed, correct?
[03:39] <asdx> FUCK
[03:39] <KuLover> Rug, 0/0/0
[03:39] <krazykit> asdx: language.  and use the nero trial
[03:39] <nickrud> Weirdbro, I'm not going to be able to spend time on that tonight, if you do you might want to note how it worked on the wiki.
[03:39] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: can you copy and paste with the on-screen keyboard?
[03:39] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: no, alternate CD is everything.
[03:39] <Weirdbro> nickrud: Ok, thats probably a good idea
[03:39] <Rug> KuLover: what version is your kernel?
[03:39] <dou213> how can i restore the gde boot image?
[03:39] <KuLover> kernalinfo
[03:39] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, when trying to get some packages why does it ask for the disk?
[03:40] <daniel_bergamini> soundray onscreen keyboard, hmmm, I'm not sure. but that won't help me with the screen saver unlock after a resume. also the GOK does not work in 606
[03:40] <KuLover> Rug, how do I find that (sorry for bugging you so much)
[03:40] <DarkMageZ> krazykit, do u know where that feature is in the plugin, i can't seem to find it
[03:40] <Rug> KuLover: in the terminal type:   uname -r
[03:40] <pyroride> has anyone experienced any issues with default fonts?
[03:40] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: because you're using the disk as the repository.  There are more packages on the disk than just what's initially installed.
[03:40] <pyroride> sometimes my default font looks terrible
[03:40] <Rug> and paste it here
[03:40] <pyroride> and other times it looks really nice and aliased
[03:40] <pyroride> even sometimes within the same sentence
[03:40] <KuLover> 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic , Rug
[03:40] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, so i can use the alternate cd and get more stuff of it?
[03:41] <Rug> ok good
[03:41] <krazykit> DarkMageZ: mouse > mouse clicking > middle click
[03:41] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: or the installCD, yeah.  both work.
[03:41] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: they're the initial "active" repositories, if you don't have internets
[03:41] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, is there a place where i can get a huge things of packages and stuff because the computer has no net
[03:41] <Rug> KuLover: personally I would swap that for k7 instead of AMD Generic, but that is a different issue
[03:42] <escobar5> please, i need help with my ipod: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15228
[03:42] <KuLover> Rug, way to inexperianced for that at the moment ><
[03:42] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: you can download the DVDs, they have even more packages.  and, there are plans to bundle up the repositories like debians, but nothing as of yet.  You can just download the packages, and burn them, then sneakernet them as well.
[03:42] <Rug> KuLover: ok, it's not a big deal
[03:42] <[CC] Impsy|NH> where are the packages?
[03:43] <KuLover> Rug, is there a temporary fix?
[03:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> woops
[03:43] <Rug> KuLover: I can't think of one sorry
[03:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, where are these packages or DVDs
[03:43] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: repositories ;)
[03:43] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: oh, DVD images?
[03:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, sure.
[03:43] <KuLover> ANyone else haveing amaroK install problems?
[03:43] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: I'm not sure.  someone here should be able to tell you
[03:43] <Xenophoebic> anybody install ubuntu on a Chaintech VNF4 Ultra?  old and new ubuntu both wont install... ;-(  freezes up while attemting
[03:43] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, because i cant get the "make" command to work or anything on it.
[03:44] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: have you looked for an option to unset screen locking during resume?
[03:44] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: you need build-essential
[03:44] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: that should be on the CD
[03:44] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, how do i get it from the cd.
[03:44] <Rug> KuLover: what happens if you:  sudo apt-get install libexscalibar1 libifp4 libvisual0.2
[03:44] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: the CD is in your repository list, right?
[03:44] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, how do i get to my uh repository lsit.
[03:44] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, *list
[03:44] <KuLover> Rug
[03:45] <lee_> Hey I have a issue with the theme manager, everytime I attempted to change a theme, "gnome theme manager" crashes
[03:45] <KuLover> Package libifp4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:45] <KuLover> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:45] <KuLover> is only available from another source
[03:45] <KuLover> E: Package libifp4 has no installation candidate
[03:45] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: heh, you in, what? synaptic?  what's xubuntus package manager?
[03:45] <daniel_bergamini> soundray screen still locks during hybernate I believe
[03:45] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, well it has synaptic
[03:45] <daniel_bergamini> is enabling blank passwords this difficult?
[03:45] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: sure, lets use synaptic.
[03:45] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, k
[03:45] <escobar5> hello, anybody?
[03:45] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: let's say the question doesn't come up that often...
[03:45] <Rug> ok do that again but remove the:  libifp4
[03:45] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: one of the menus has a "repositories" item, select that.
[03:46] <nickrud> KuLover, first, please don't paste :) and it's in the universe repo, which you need to enable. See !components for why, and !repos for how, below
[03:46] <nickrud> !components
[03:46] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[03:46] <nickrud> !repos
[03:46] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: then, you're going to make sure that the CD repository is checked, and nothing else is.
[03:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[03:46] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, lol wish i could do that right now but im not naer it
[03:46] <XOSGuest614> DCC SEND "testing" 0 0 0
[03:46] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, can you just tell me the steps
[03:46] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: oh, ok, so we're doing this via ssh?
[03:46] <KuLover> Rug, enableing reops, I know how to do ><
[03:46] <nickrud> !ops
[03:46] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:46] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, ssh? im just at my grandparents house :p
[03:46] <Flannel> nickrud: too late.  he's klined already
[03:46] <nalioth> nickrud: he got what was coming to him
[03:46] <Madpilot> fast kline :)
[03:46] <nickrud> Flannel, ah, I missed ugbutu
[03:46] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: right, but, what do you mean by "not near it"?
[03:47] <nalioth> Madpilot: we had warning
[03:47] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, yeah not near it
[03:47] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: when you edited /etc/shadow, did you also remove the 'x' in the password field in /etc/passwd ?
[03:47] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, i was gonna come here and burn a bunch of stuff.
[03:47] <nickrud> nalioth, permanently, we could hope
[03:47] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: oh, well, it's on the CD.  you need to enable the CD repository, it SHOULD already be enabled, then insert the CD, and you can use it.
[03:47] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: if, like you were saying, it was asking you to insert the CD, it's enabled.
[03:48] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, k
[03:48] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, well lol my ATI drivers and my sound isnt working as well..
[03:48] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: just insert the CD, and you can use synaptic/whatever, albeit with a limited list of packages.
[03:48] <Rug> KuLover: ok do that again but remove the:  libifp4
[03:48] <Feral_Kid> Is there a wiki guide to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[03:48] <kholerabbi> Hey, normally firefox would use google i'm feeling lucky search if you just typed in a string like "ebay" in the locationbar, but I have enabled privoxy, and now a privoxy page comes up saying ebay can't be found.. is there any way to still use both google lucky search and privoxy?
[03:48] <escobar5> i'm having problems with my ipod, here's the output of dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15228, can anyone help me?
[03:48] <Madpilot> Feral_Kid, yes
[03:48] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Feral_Kid about upgrade
[03:48] <KuLover> Rug, it found them, should I install?
[03:48] <Rug> yes
[03:49] <KuLover> Rug, Installed
[03:49] <Rug> WooHoo
[03:49] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, whats the different between the desktops?
[03:49] <KuLover> Rug, Try for amarok now?
[03:49] <Rug> KuLover: sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-xine
[03:49] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: here's an ugly hack: you could create a loop that's run as root on boot, that touches /var/run/sudo/username every couple of minutes
[03:49] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, i mean gnome and stuff
[03:49] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: you mean like, kubuntu vs ubuntu vs xubuntu?
[03:49] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, i heard you could have those also on xubuntu
[03:49] <lee_> Hey I have a issue with the theme manager, everytime I attempted to change a theme, "gnome theme manager" crashes
[03:50] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: right, you can install other ones along side.  It's basically a "ubuntu base" and then whatever ku-u-xu you want above it, in any combination
[03:50] <KuLover> Rug = Life Saver
[03:50] <KuLover> <3
[03:50] <Rug> KuLover: you are welcome, just glad I could help
[03:50] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, so how big are those to add-on then
[03:50] <daniel_bergamini> soundray I will try to remove the x in passwd and I will look into the sudo loop
[03:51] <Rug> KuLover: I love Amarok, been using it for a very long time
[03:51] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: I guess it would work as a cron job even.
[03:51] <KuLover> Rug, I love it too. Thanks so much
[03:51] <adamant1988> Can anyone assist me in fixing the flash in my FF?
[03:51] <Healot> it's the same distro with 3 different desktop flavors
[03:51] <Feral_Kid> Madpilot> Thanks for the info...
[03:51] <Madpilot> Feral_Kid, np
[03:51] <KuLover> Rug, I get an error upon open
[03:51] <Rug> KuLover: try joining #amarok
[03:51] <adamant1988> I can SEE flash, but I can't hear anything.
[03:51] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: I have no idea.  You'd have to download the ISOs of each one, I suspect.  And you can use them to install the other OSs (a live/alternate CD for kubuntu and ubuntu, then install ubuntu-desktop with the ubuntu CD in, and kubuntu with kubuntu CD), just remember to reload your package list after each.
[03:51] <Rug> KuLover: what error?
[03:51] <KuLover> Rug, Im in that channel, They wouldnt help me
[03:51] <Rug> =) har
[03:52] <KuLover> Rug, Could not find plugins
[03:52] <nickrud> adamant1988, there are some possible fixes on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:52] <Rug> wtf
[03:52] <adamant1988> Yeah, it said it couldn't find the alsa-oss file when I did apt-get
[03:52] <KuLover> Rug, It also says to wait and restart nvm
[03:52] <adamant1988> What should I do to install it?
[03:52] <pyroride> i think my text isn't getting aliased properly
[03:52] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, is there a way i can just make it install all the packages left over from my cd?
[03:52] <pyroride> some parts of the screen look super blocky and some parts look blurry
[03:52] <pyroride> with regards to text
[03:52] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: heh, sure.  Although, I can't imagine why you'd want to.  Just mark everything as install, in synaptic.
[03:52] <KuLover> Rug, works like  a charm now, Thanks again!!
[03:53] <Rug> good, you scared me..
[03:53] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, are alot of them not needed?
[03:53] <Rug> Dammit, don't do that again!
[03:53] <daniel_bergamini> soundray 1. thanks for the help. 2. removing the x in passwd didn't change things. I'm pretty sure it's a PAM issue
[03:53] <daniel_bergamini> I just don't want to learn that much about pam
[03:53] <lee_> Hey I have a issue with the theme manager, everytime I attempted to change a theme, "gnome theme manager" crashes
[03:53] <ydnar> if i installed an executable with wine, how do i run the actual program?
[03:53] <adamant1988> How do I install the Alsa-oss file?
[03:53] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: yeah, and a lot of them are different programs that do the same thing.
[03:53] <Rug> ydnar: type:  wine "/path/to/file"
[03:53] <leenks> hi - whats the best imap server to install on ubuntu ?
[03:54] <arentie> hello
[03:54] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: hope you find a way.
[03:54] <krazykit> ydnar: stuff goes in ~/.wine/drive_c/...
[03:54] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, lol would it take up a ton of space
[03:54] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: make sure you bring the common things (codec, flash, video card drivers) with you.  they're not on the CD.
[03:54] <arentie> can anyone help with a Linkysys WMP54G?
[03:54] <ydnar> how come i can't "cd" into "Program Files"
[03:54] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: I really have no idea
[03:54] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, lol i cant get my video card driver to work i dont think..
[03:54] <soundray> ydnar: try 'cd Program\ Files'
[03:54] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, its ati
[03:54] <ydnar> thank you
[03:54] <cwillu_> [CC] Impsy|NH; it'll install a bunch of stuff that you don't need, start services you don't want, etc
[03:54] <TheAsp> ydnar: you can use quotes too
[03:55] <leenks> arentie:  http://www.alexandern.com/Linksys_WMP54G_on_Linux.html
[03:55] <leenks> arentie: there may be other solutions though
[03:55] <sn00p> Does anybody know what repository would mplayer plugin be on for firefox?
[03:55] <ydnar> that worked wonderfully soundray, thank you very much!
[03:55] <arentie> leenks, is this for the Dapper release?
[03:55] <ydnar> you too TheAsp
[03:55] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, will the drivers at the top help me out? https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[03:56] <Flannel> !tell [CC] Impsy|NH about ati
[03:56] <soundray> ydnar: do you understand the problem?
[03:56] <leenks> arentie: it is generic instructions for linux
[03:56] <KuLover> Rug, did you have problems playing mp3 upon fresh install?
[03:56] <daniel_bergamini> soundray I'll report back if I find anything useful
[03:56] <arentie> leenks, ok thanks...I'll will check it out
[03:57] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Flannel, i should see if it works first i guess or a fat chance it will work with my ATI?
[03:57] <Rug> KuLover: yes, you must install the w32codecs
[03:57] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: I can't see why the timestamp loop wouldn't work.
[03:57] <leenks> arentie: there is a free GPL driver, and a commercial one you have to pay for; I haven't used either though I'm afraid
[03:58] <leenks> you might be able to get it to work with ndiswrapper
[03:58] <KuLover> Rug, where can I locate those?
[03:58] <arentie> leenks, I tried with ndiswrapper without success...it did work under breezy!
[03:58] <lee_> Hi, I've got a wierd issue. This has happened twice, and just happened now. I'll go afk for 5 minutes or so (the screen saver goes on a 1 minutes idle) and I'll come back and it will be at the Ubuntu Login screen. Totally Logged off! I have to log back in. I'ts very strange.... any thoughts?
[03:58] <Rug> !restricted foramts
[03:58] <ubotu> Rug: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:58] <Rug> ack
[03:59] <Rug> !restricted formats
[03:59] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or '!codecs'
[03:59] <tahorg> lee_: what uptime says ?
[03:59] <Rug> KuLover: got that?
[03:59] <KuLover> Rug, no?
[04:00] <KuLover> Rug, the ! thinger?
[04:00] <lee_> tahorg: what do you mean by uptime?
[04:00] <intelikey> lee_ iirc in the screensaver setting there is an option to logout after __
[04:00] <Rug> !tell kulover about codecs
[04:00] <sn00p> How come it cant find the mozilla-mplayer
[04:00] <leenks> arentie: have you checked for the card in dmesg etc ?
[04:00] <sn00p> ?
[04:00] <tahorg> lee_: do you have an I_like_to_walk_on_keyboards cat ?
[04:00] <Rug> KuLover: got that?
[04:00] <KuLover> Yeah
[04:00] <KuLover> Thankd
[04:00] <Rug> KuLover: you owe me a beer
[04:00] <lee_> tahorg: haha no :P I just turned around a minute ago and it was logged off
[04:00] <daniel_bergamini> soundray so if one authenticates for sudo it won't do it again for a short period of time?
[04:01] <KuLover> Rug, and a half
[04:01] <tahorg> lee_: did it reboot ?
[04:01] <lee_> I spose it's possible though lol I don't think the cat was nearby.... unless she's turned into a super ninja cat :P
[04:01] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: that's right, I think the default is 300 seconds.
[04:01] <lee_> Tahorg: that's possible, idk why it would though
[04:01] <daniel_bergamini> what is the best ubuntu forum?
[04:01] <tahorg> lee_: the uptime command will tell you how long the system has been running
[04:01] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: you're in it.
[04:01] <daniel_bergamini> might just be best to ask around and let some people think it through
[04:02] <daniel_bergamini> web forum
[04:02] <arentie> leenks, no, how do I?
[04:02] <soundray> !forums
[04:02] <krazykit> daniel_bergamini: ubuntuforums.org
[04:02] <daniel_bergamini> ok that's what I figured, I'll check it out
[04:02] <lee_> 2 hours 44 minutes
[04:02] <bullrage> FatalError: Cannot bind to XML RPC port, is another hellanzb queue daemon already running? -- how do i stop this daemon?
[04:02] <jeff2> I'm trying to setup a 32-bit chroot, using "debootstrap --arch i386 /chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu
[04:02] <jeff2> ". it fails immediately with "/usr/sbin/debootstrap: line 227: cd: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu: No such file or directory". why is it trying to treat the URL as a directory, and how can I make it bootstrap correctly?
[04:02] <lee_> so it didn't reboot
[04:03] <lee_> tahorg: 2 hours-so it didn't reboot
[04:03] <tahorg> lee_: was it really logged out or is it just the screensaver asking for your pass ?
[04:03] <adamant1988> grrr
[04:04] <optiq> does anyone have the script for mounting windows partitions?
[04:04] <intelikey> lee_ screensaver settings.   lock screensaver  logout screensaver.... ?
[04:04] <lee_> tahorg: it was really logged out, I had to start up firefox, irc, gaim everything again
[04:04] <adamant1988> none of those solutions is getting flash working...
[04:04] <bullrage> anyone? i dunno how to stop the daemon and none of the docs for hellanzb provide an answer
[04:04] <[CC] Impsy|NH> Can anyone tell me some great Linux Games
[04:04] <Surfnmate> optiq, just in the /etc/fstab there is something to mount them
[04:04] <soundray> !vfat
[04:04] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:04] <intelikey> [CC] Impsy|NH cil
[04:04] <lee_> intelikey: lock was not selected however, activate screensaver when session idle is checked
[04:04] <intelikey> [CC] Impsy|NH cli
[04:04] <[CC] Impsy|NH> cil?
[04:04] <tahorg> lee_: dunno then
[04:04] <[CC] Impsy|NH> cli?
[04:04] <Surfnmate> !NTFS
[04:04] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[04:04] <tahorg> lee_: sorry
[04:05] <optiq> surfnmate someone had a particular script i was looking for it isnt a problem to do it manually
[04:05] <Mikamura_Kaoru> Can anyone here can solve my problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190374
[04:05] <optiq> thanks
[04:05] <lee_> tahorg: tis K thanks
[04:05] <bullrage> I've done it now, nevermind
[04:05] <arentie> leenks, no offense, but that article seems like a lot of messing around
[04:05] <[CC] Impsy|NH> whats cli
[04:05] <cha0tic> just installed the latest ubuntu -- having a problem getting my AC'97 ATI sound card working -- it shows up under device manager, but i keep getting this error when trying to access volume control: no volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found ---- i googled it and found one possible solution: gst-register-0.8` as root -- but i dont have any type of gst-register command --- anyone have or had this problem and have fou
[04:05] <cha0tic> nd a way to fix it ?
[04:05] <arentie> there's gotta be an easier way
[04:05] <intelikey> lee_ there are options that will cause it to logout on screensaver.
[04:05] <tahorg> [CC] Impsy|NH: command line interface
[04:05] <Surfnmate> optiq, i see, not sure there, maybe the forums :)
[04:05] <[CC] Impsy|NH> why are you telling me about that
[04:05] <tahorg> [CC] Impsy|NH: aka terminal
[04:05] <[CC] Impsy|NH> thats not a fun game :p
[04:05] <soundray> daniel_bergamini: you could ask intelikey about you're problem. He's good :)
[04:06] <KuLover> Rug, firfox wants, libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0. Would you happen to know which package I should install?
[04:06] <Geoffrey2> this is fun...I get a wireless connection up and running, have fun puttering with it...shut down the computer....just came back and powered it up, the Network Manager doesn't show a wireless network anymore, even though my Wi-Fi light is on
[04:06] <jeff2> is a 32-bit chroot of dapper supported in breezy?
[04:06] <tahorg> [CC] Impsy|NH: that IS fun. You have no idea.
[04:06] <[CC] Impsy|NH> does anyone know a good mp3 player that supports ipods
[04:06] <soundray> s/you're/your/ (I hate it when that happens)
[04:06] <Surfnmate> yeah intelikey has all the answers :P jk
[04:06] <Rug> KuLover: no I don't sorry
[04:06] <[CC] Impsy|NH> i need one for xubuntu
[04:06] <lee_> intelikey: where are they? I don't see them in the screensaver preferences
[04:06] <nickrud> jeff2, there probably will be kernel issues, or udev issues, or something somewhere on that layer.
[04:06] <[CC] Impsy|NH> help does anyone know a good media player that has ipod support and mp3 support and stuff
[04:06] <intelikey> lee_  gconf_editor
[04:06] <lee_> Quick OT question, how do you browse to a folder in terminal if there is a space in the name?
[04:06] <lee_> intelikey: okay.
[04:07] <Flannel> lee_: escape the space  (\ ), tabcomplete does it for you
[04:07] <tahorg> lee_: cd thing\ bla
[04:07] <intelikey> lee_  name\ of\ the.dir
[04:07] <Flannel> lee_: and, that's hardly offtopic ;)
[04:07] <jeff2> nickrud, thanks, I'll stick with a breezy chroot then
[04:07] <lee_> okay thanks
[04:07] <intelikey> lee_ or quote it.
[04:07] <daniel_bergamini> sure, intelikey, how can I use a blank password or not have to authenticate for sudo apps?
[04:07] <intelikey> cd 'this dir'
[04:07] <[CC] Impsy|NH> wow anyone know a good mp3 player
[04:07] <tahorg> lee_: or, cd "the[tab] [tab] 
[04:07] <Surfnmate> hola santiagokq
[04:07] <tahorg> lee_: and it will complete
[04:07] <keithg> nickrud, Well, that wasn't able to fix my problems.  It did the same thing, I should have probably added that it sounds like the drive is restarting when it freezes.
[04:07] <[CC] Impsy|NH> wow anyone know a good mp3 player
[04:07] <nickrud> jeff2, I am not an expert, so I'd ask that question again later
[04:07] <daniel_bergamini> I'm using a tablet, no keyboard, no easy way to authenticate
[04:07] <lee_> Alright that worked thanks tahorg
[04:07] <soundray> lee_ or cd name* if it's unique
[04:07] <santiagokq> Surfnmate: hola...?
[04:08] <soundray> !player
[04:08] <ubotu> soundray: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:08] <soundray> !players
[04:08] <ubotu> I heard players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[04:08] <daniel_bergamini> also, the screensaver always needs to be unlocked after a hybernate
[04:08] <Surfnmate> santiagokq, welcome to ubuntu
[04:08] <arentie> does anyone here know how to activate a linksys wmp54g?
[04:08] <tritium> daniel_bergamini: that's a known isue
[04:09] <[CC] Impsy|NH> whats one for Xubuntu tho.
[04:09] <nickrud> keithg, when you say that you use the low level mkfs.ext3 tool, and it fails, that's a warning at my skill level about the disk itself. I may be wrong
[04:09] <XOSGuest615> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[04:09] <santiagokq> i upgraded from ubuntu breezy to dapper, and now openoffice's quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... i wasn't using any special applet, just the default option in tools - options - memory - quickstarter... any ideas?
[04:09] <VoX> whoa
[04:09] <intelikey> net split
[04:09] <nickrud> intelikey, no, an ass.
[04:09] <VoX> thats no net split
[04:09] <tritium> he was K-lined ;)
[04:10] <keithg> nickrud, So that would mean that I would need to replace it?
[04:10] <lee_> intelikey: gconf_editor doesn't launch anything :(
[04:10] <bluefoxicy> ubotu automatix
[04:10] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[04:10] <[CC] Impsy|NH> will Banshee come as a repository on my Xubuntu Alt cd?
[04:10] <Madpilot> nickrud, it was a similar nick :|
[04:10] <[CC] Impsy|NH> will Banshee come as a repository on my Xubuntu Alt cd?
[04:10] <bluefoxicy> ubotu easyubuntu
[04:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[04:10] <intelikey> lee_ hyphen not underscore
[04:11] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: banshee is in the repons
[04:11] <tritium> repos, even
[04:11] <intelikey> gconf-editor
[04:11] <Flannel> nah, nickrud, 614 was last.  I predict the next will be 616
[04:11] <nickrud> keithg, I just think that that should work, any distro. So, probably hard drive is a guess
[04:11] <soundray> nickrud: it was XOSGuest614 on the previous one
[04:11] <Vaske_Car> Need help with installing MyPHPAdmin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15230
[04:11] <eric__> OK.
[04:11] <eric__> So now I'm trying to install breezy on my iMac G3/233. I think I asked it to erase the whole hard drive, an 80 Gb I installed several months ago. The installer created two partitions and installed the operating system without any errors. It popped out the installation CD and reset the iMac.
[04:11] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: so i just use the synaptic manager to install
[04:11] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: so i just use the synaptic manager to install
[04:11] <eric__> On reset, I get the yaboot greeting (Welcome, version 1.3.13 ...) and press ENTER. It says:
[04:11] <eric__> Please wait, loading kernel.... (long wait)
[04:11] <intelikey> lee_ sorry for the typo on the first try...
[04:11] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: you can, yes (or apt-get, or aptitude)
[04:11] <eric__> boot:
[04:11] <eric__> Anything I put at this point comes back with "loading kernel" and then nothing.
[04:11] <nickrud> heh
[04:11] <eric__> Where did I mess up?
[04:11] <eric__> More to the point, what can I do about it?
[04:12] <eric__> Sorry for the dump - I sent more crud than I meant to.
[04:12] <tritium> Good idea, mardi_
[04:12] <tritium> Madpilot, rather
[04:12] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: that Easy ubuntu looks good, is there a way to install without getting it form the net
[04:12] <keithg> nickrud, Alright, thanks.  :)  I haven't had adequate life out of this drive.  It's fairly large as well.  :(
[04:12] <mardi_> tritium: hrm?
[04:12] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: I don't believe so
[04:12] <|cerebellum|> so where is this amazing 15 minute LAMP tool?
[04:12] <tritium> mardi_: wrong person, sorry
[04:12] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: omg
[04:12] <Flannel> !tell |cerebellum| about LAMP
[04:12] <tritium> |cerebellum|: you mean the server install?
[04:12] <nickrud> I love/hate nick completion.
[04:13] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: is there a way to use that tar.tar file?
[04:13] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: not sure, I'm not the right person to ask.  I've not used it.
[04:13] <intelikey> eric__  menu.lst missing ?
[04:13] <imichel> I need helpmardi could you help me?
[04:13] <mardi_> tritium: :)
[04:13] <[CC] Impsy|NH> does anyone know if i can isntall EasyUbuntu with the tar.tar file?
[04:13] <intelikey> eric__  /boot/grub/menu.lst    missing or empty ?
[04:13] <timmy_> HOW DO I INSTALL XFCE ON DAPPER
[04:13] <imichel> mardi I need your help
[04:13] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: if I'm not mistaken, it downloads/installs things of the net
[04:14] <eric__> intelikey: forgive me for sounding basic, but what's that?  This is my first linux install ever.
[04:14] <tritium> timmy_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:14] <Rug> timmy_: don't yell
[04:14] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: aha i see.
[04:14] <tritium> (or use the xubuntu install CD)
[04:14] <intelikey> timmy_ don't yell .    sudo apt-get install xfce4
[04:14] <tritium> xubuntu-desktop would be preferable
[04:14] <S0me1> hi
[04:14] <imichel> tritim could you help me resolving my problem?
[04:15] <[CC] Impsy|NH> tritium: wow ubuntu really is for internet-enabled people
[04:15] <intelikey> eric__ i.yei.yei....   ask someone else.  i'll over load you.
[04:15] <mjbjr> I need to buy (preferrable) or build a new machine for ubuntu... any _recommendations_?
[04:15] <imichel> tritium; your help please
[04:15] <eric__> Erp.  Maybe point me to a link?
[04:15] <tritium> [CC] Impsy|NH: that's true of most modern OSes and distros
[04:15] <tritium> imichel: with?
[04:15] <imichel> with you
[04:16] <eric__> intelikey: maybe point me someplace I can read about what you are saying?
[04:16] <eric__> intelikey: Is this something I can fix quickly if I knew what I was doing?
[04:16] <tritium> imichel: ask your question
[04:16] <eric__> intellikey: thanks.
[04:16] <Marineboy> Crimsun thanks!
[04:17] <eric__> intellikey: Does it matter that I'm using an iMac (PPC)?
[04:17] <intelikey> eric__ yes it is.... but not knowing, you "can" do more harm than good.
[04:17] <imichel> how can I install plugin to see TV on the internet?
[04:17] <eric__> intellikey: never mind.
[04:17] <S0me1> Guys, When i try to log in to the Ubuntu by username & password ubuntu still load the gnome 20 min not very fast,did anyone have this issue before?
[04:17] <intelikey> eric__ yes there is a link specific to that architecture.
[04:17] <S0me1> Ubuntu 6.06
[04:17] <tritium> eric__: which iMac do you have?  G5?
[04:18] <eric__> intellikey: G3 iMac/233 (bondi blue).  A real dinosaur.
[04:18] <intelikey>   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[04:18] <bohdan> hello
[04:18] <tritium> eric__: okay, good.  iMac G5 is still not supported (needs patches from 2.6.16 kernel)
[04:19] <eric__> tritium: I'm using ubuntu 5.10 since dapper has a known bug that won't let me boot from it.
[04:19] <adamant1988> How can I see what drivers for graphics cards I have installed?
[04:19] <tritium> eric__: I'm not familiar with a dapper bug that would prevent you from using it.  Which one?
[04:19] <intelikey> adamant1988 lsmod
[04:20] <adamant1988> just type lsmod?
[04:20] <imichel> Tritium: I want to install plugin to mozilla firefox
[04:20] <imichel> How?
[04:20] <tritium> imichel: which one?
[04:20] <intelikey> well lsmod | less   maybe :)
[04:20] <S0me1> adamant1988: lshw command
[04:20] <Surfnmate> bittorrent sucks, it has to read the iso every time it stops and reloads, anyway to stop this
[04:20] <eric__> Tritium: The OS chucks me into the Apple firmware screen saying something about being unable to allocate a chunk-tree, or somesuch.
[04:21] <Shaezsche> i need to get lilo off my boot, and i cannot boot into ubuntu to do it. how can i restore my original boot from within winxp?
[04:21] <tritium> eric__: hmm...you're using the final release, and not some flight or RC?
[04:21] <intelikey> S0me1 did i miss his question ?  "<adamant1988> How can I see what drivers for graphics cards I have installed?"
[04:21] <Marineboy> someone please,  im trying to use Rhythmbox, I get sound from everywhere else, but not from the player
[04:21] <eric__> tritium: got it straight from ubuntu.
[04:21] <eric__> 6.06, that is.
[04:21] <Mikamura_Kaoru> Kernel Panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt. >> Are there any solution for this?
[04:21] <leenks> hi - whats the best imap server to install on ubuntu ?
[04:21] <stbrenner> is there a way to get amaroK to work in gnome?
[04:22] <eric__> tritium: which kind of rots, because the intel version works great with my Sony VAIO.
[04:22] <imichel> I want to download a plugin for watching tv but i don't know which one to download
[04:22] <adamant1988> this is weird
[04:22] <S0me1> intelikey: lsmod kernel modules
[04:22] <adamant1988> I have the ATI FGLRX or w/e driver... and it's not working, I can't even play ppracer
[04:22] <S0me1> intelikey:but it will help
[04:22] <tritium> eric__: do you have a bug #?
[04:23] <S0me1> intelikey:lshw & lspci very clear to the user
[04:23] <tritium> adamant1988: ubuntu fglrx packages, or someting off of ati.com?
[04:23] <adamant1988> I used Easyubuntu to install it
[04:23] <imichel> I want to download a plugin for watching tv but i don't know which one to download
[04:23] <noahod> Hey all, Does anyone know if the bcm4xxx driver supports rfmon, and as such, kismet?
[04:23] <santiagokq> i upgraded from ubuntu breezy to dapper, and now openoffice's quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... i wasn't using any special applet, just the default option in tools - options - memory - quickstarter... any ideas ?
[04:23] <tritium> imichel: watching TV how?  Do you have a TV tuner card?
[04:23] <garryfre> I had to set my Dapper drive in bios to the first drive in order to boot it, or it would say Invalid boot sig if using grub, or image too bug overlaps lilo stage two if I tried lilo. Now I switch the drive to first, and load it using grub installed on the drive.
[04:24] <intelikey> S0me1 is there a better way to see what "drivers for graphics cards i have installed"  ?
[04:24] <[CC] Impsy|NH> does anyone have linux on their ipoD?
[04:24] <lee_> I have linux installed on my dog
[04:24] <imichel> i don't know that we need tuner card!
[04:24] <lee_> It runs quite well
[04:25] <tritium> I'll be back later on
[04:25] <CanadianSnow> how do i install java?
[04:25] <CanadianSnow> like, runtime or w.e?
[04:26] <adamant1988> this sucks..
[04:26] <adamant1988> it's like the driver isn't even installed.
[04:26] <CanadianSnow> wut
[04:26] <tritium> CanadianSnow: there are now sun java packages in multiverse
[04:26] <CanadianSnow> did u reboot? :P
[04:26] <CanadianSnow> how do i get there tritium?
[04:26] <nickrud> santiagokq, I just set the option you mentioned, and it's now working again for me (icon and all)
[04:26] <adamant1988> I used EasyUbuntu to install ATI drivers and nothings working with 3d
[04:26] <Flannel> !tell CanadianSnow about java
[04:26] <CanadianSnow> ok thx lol
[04:26] <adamant1988> it's like nothing changed at all.
[04:26] <leenks> CanadianSnow: sudo apt-get unstall sun-jdk1.5.0 or something
[04:26] <garryfre> To be clear, I'm satisfied with the method I have to use to boot it. Its just takes me a second to set it as first boot drive.
[04:27] <tritium> !sunjava
[04:27] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[04:27] <tritium> CanadianSnow: ^^
[04:27] <tritium> CanadianSnow: apt-cache search sun-java to see what's available (after enabling multiverse repos)
[04:27] <CanadianSnow> uninstall? :S
[04:27] <adamant1988> grrr
[04:27] <leenks> or maybe sun-java5-jdk
[04:27] <santiagokq> i upgraded from ubuntu breezy to dapper, and now openoffice's quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... i wasn't using any special applet, just the default option in tools - options - memory - quickstarter... any ideas ?
[04:28] <earthen> could some one tell me how too restart the inetd daemon
[04:28] <adamant1988> I used those commands... it told me my card but I can't figure out my drivers
[04:28] <garryfre> I was told that easybuntu was for use with breezy not dapper. I got the impression that it is not for updating to dapper.
[04:28] <intelikey>  /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[04:29] <leenks> /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[04:29] <nickrud> santiagokq, only one: uninstall openoffice & all it's dependencies & reinstall them. I have a dapper install, not a breezy upgrade
[04:29] <leenks> /etc/init.d/xinetd restart
[04:29] <leenks> one of those two
[04:29] <maddy> how do i run bitterrent?
[04:29] <tritium> sudo invoke-rc.d <service name> restart
[04:29] <santiagokq> nickrud: ok thanks i'll try
[04:29] <leenks> maddler_: you might want to install azeurus
[04:29] <santiagokq> nickrud: so you say i should have fresh installed?
[04:29] <leenks> azureus even
[04:29] <earthen> intelikey, leenks inetd is not in the init,d list
[04:29] <maddy> hm...
[04:29] <leenks> earthen: xinetd?
[04:29] <maddy> thanx
[04:30] <nickrud> santiagokq, ideally upgrades are equivalent to fresh installs.
[04:30] <earthen> leenks, oook thats why I could find it  thanks
[04:30] <intelikey> earthen i've never used inetd... <shrugs/>
[04:30] <leenks> earthen: xinetd is like inetd but is better imo
[04:30] <nickrud> santiagokq, ymmv
[04:30] <leenks> much easier / flexible to configure
[04:30] <santiagokq> nickrud: should i uninstall ooo2 with configuration files included?
[04:31] <disinterested_pe> if my keyboard isnt listed in the keyboard layouts is there anyway for ubuntu to detect which kindof keyboard ur useing?
[04:31] <eric__> intelikey or tritium: I'm stuck in a box and I'm hoping you can give me some advice.
[04:31] <nickrud> santiagokq, mark all packages for purging. It's probaly easiest in synaptic or aptitude
[04:31] <eric__> I guess I need to edit my yaboot.conf file.
[04:31] <earthen> leenks, xinetd doesn't seem to be there eather
[04:31] <tritium> eric__: I'm on my way out.  I'll be back later on.
[04:31] <eric__> But I can't get past the "boot" prompt.
[04:31] <eric__> OK.
[04:32] <santiagokq> nickrud: it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop... is that ok as long as i reinstall it later?
[04:32] <leenks> earthen: then maybe you didnt ever install it
[04:32] <cha0tic> how do i configure mny sound card in ubuntu ? its beingp icked up in device manager, but its not working with GStreamer plugin
[04:32] <nickrud> santiagokq, exactly
[04:32] <tritium> intelikey: is likely (no pun intended) more able to help you anyway, eric__
[04:32] <earthen> leenks, I'm trying to get samba swat working and the howto I'm reading is telling me to restart that but I doesn't say how
[04:32] <intelikey> eric__ i don't have a mac    but try the tab key
[04:33] <leenks> earthen: sudo apt-get install inetd
[04:33] <cha0tic> anyone ?
[04:33] <earthen> leenks, no I didn't install it, but the config file was there for it so I asume that it was there
[04:34] <santiagokq> nickrud: thanks, i'll try
[04:34] <eric__> intelikey: TAB -> choose 'Linux' or 'old'.
[04:34] <intelikey> yep
[04:34] <eric__> intelikey: maybe boot up in my 5.10 live CD?
[04:34] <earthen> leenks, thanks for the help it working fine now
[04:34] <nickrud> santiagokq, it'll not break anything, and it may fix it. But, if it doesn't I'm recommending fresh installs over upgrades in general
[04:34] <intelikey> that's a thought.
[04:35] <eric__> then do CTRL-OPT-F1?
[04:35] <leenks> earthen: cool :)
[04:36] <intelikey> eric__ if i knew anything about apples i'd tell ya.  but we are comparing apples and yellows here..... or is that oranges  i forget...  what ever a pc is.  :)
[04:36] <tsp> Does ubuntu dapper come with a live cd?
[04:37] <tsp> If so, where do I get it?
[04:37] <Flannel> tsp: the desktop CD is a liveCD
[04:37] <tsp> ah
[04:37] <eric__> tsp: I believe the 6.06 is a live CD.
[04:37] <tsp> How do I boot gnopernicus when it starts? the details are sketchy on the wiki
[04:37] <santiagokq> my deskbar doesn't want to open web searches, i guess it's related to firefox... which setting should i look?
[04:37] <bimberi> tsp: it's called a "Desktop CD" on the download page
[04:38] <James_M> ?
[04:38] <Geoffrey2> anyone had a problem with a wireless connection dissapearing when you reboot the computer?
[04:38] <tsp> ok - What will happen when it boots? I need gnopernicus to load
[04:38] <James_M> no, but I need help with my wireless connection as well.
[04:38] <Xenophoebic> anybody install dapper on a Chaintech VNF4 Ultra? last ubuntu wouldnt work either... keyboard wouldnt work on lang select...
[04:38] <Geoffrey2> seems wireless is a big problem with Dapper
[04:39] <James_M> yeah
[04:39] <James_M> wait, lemmie do a test of your statement
[04:39] <bimberi> tsp: on an installed system you can add it to the startup programs in System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[04:39] <eric__> intelikey: back to basics, then.  Let's say I don't care about running Mac OS on this box, just Ubuntu.
[04:39] <eric__> intelikey: That being the case, do I still need to confugure yaboot?
[04:40] <bimberi> heh
[04:40] <eric__> configure?
[04:40] <intelikey> eric__ yes.  you need some way to tell the boot loader what and where to boot
[04:41] <eric__> intelikey: you mean which drive/partition?
[04:41] <SD> does gcc 3.4.5 come with ubuntu by default?
[04:41] <intelikey> grub yaboot lilo  whatever.  it has to be configured to boot some os.  yes drive/partition kernel initrd.img
[04:41] <defunkt> !cxoffice
[04:41] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defunkt
[04:42] <defunkt> !wine
[04:42] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[04:42] <intelikey> eric__ basicly the boot loader has to know where the kernel initrd.img and root-fs are.
[04:43] <intelikey> you can inter that manually each time or configure the boot loader.
[04:43] <eric__> intelikey: If the boot loader has it wrong, will it just hang or will I get that I/O error?
[04:43] <intelikey> i/o error most likely
[04:43] <garryfre> I have read that in the text mode dapper install it is possible to tell grub to install but in the graphical install that it will only install on the first drive on the system. I was unable to get into text mode install.
[04:43] <James_M> hello
[04:44] <eric__> intelikey: So if I can input the correct partition I may just find the kernel and boot ubuntu...?
[04:44] <eric__> (I still need to do 2nd stage install)
[04:44] <nickrud> garryfre, as I understand it, there's only the text install. (pretty text, but text).
[04:44] <digikom> garryfre:  you have to download the alternate cd for text mode installs
[04:45] <nickrud> ah
[04:45] <nickrud> digikom, what are the others using then?
[04:45] <intelikey> eric__ yes if you can tell it where  'vmlinuz'  &  'initrd.img'  are  and what partition to mount as /   (assuming it's a partition)  then you can boot.
[04:45] <garryfre> Oh, I am told, I needed to use the alternate cd. Oh well, it still worked for me, I just switch the drives in bios for what I want to boot.
[04:45] <SD> can anyone help me with a dependency conflict please? i get this anytime i try to install anything from apt-get: firefox-gnome-support: Depends: firefox (= 1.0.8-0ubuntu5.10) but 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
[04:45] <James_M> okay, so how do I make  my Netgear WG111v2 work with Xubuntu on PPC (ndiswrapper-less)
[04:45] <nickrud> digikom, I ask because I don't have the bandwidth to test :)
[04:46] <digikom> nickrud:  with dapper the default is to use the new desktop cd
[04:46] <James_M> this is Xubuntu 6.06
[04:46] <garryfre> Thanks for the info Nick and Digi
[04:46] <James_M> ?
[04:46] <eric__> intelikey: If I show you my partition map, can you help me figure out what to type at the 'boot' prompt?
[04:47] <nickrud> digikom, hm. ok, then some overnight stuff, and a spare partition is about to be abused. Thanks for the pointer
[04:47] <intelikey> eric__ maybe.... but i'm not versed in apples...
[04:47] <eric__> My partitions are currently configured thus:
[04:47] <eric__> IDE1 master (hda) - 80.0GB ST380013A
[04:47] <eric__> #1 32.3 kb Apple
[04:47] <eric__> #2 1.0 MB boot Untitled
[04:47] <eric__> #3 79.7 GB ext3 Untitled /media/untitled
[04:47] <eric__> #4 282.3 MB swap swap swap
[04:47] <eric__> intelikey: I'm thinking it shouldn't matter.  Maybe I'm wrong.
[04:48] <eric__> The error I'm getting is: pci@800000000/mac-io@10/ide@200000/disk@0:3,/boot/vmlinux: Input/output error
[04:48] <eric__> Should I be pointing at partition 2?
[04:48] <James_M> can anyone help with getting a Wireless USB working with Xubuntu for PPC
[04:48] <intelikey> i'd guess the root to be the #3
[04:48] <James_M> or even regular Ubuntu
[04:48] <intelikey> eric__ #3 /
[04:49] <intelikey> eric__ #2 is too small    #1 is too small   #4 is swap  that kinda narrows the choices.
[04:50] <nickrud> James_M, try looking on wiki.ubuntu.com, there's correctable info there
[04:50] <jaqson> HI, people
[04:50] <lisa_> I just upgraded from Breezy to Dapper, yet, it still looks like breezy, and when I click on "about ubuntu", it says 5.10!!!
[04:50] <James_M> k, thx
[04:50] <eric__> intelikey: OK, because when I type 'help', I get "If you omit 'device"' and 'partno' yaboot will use the values of 'device=' and 'partition=' in yaboot.conf, right now those are set to: device=/pcj@00000000/mac-io@10/ide@200000/disk@0: partition=3'
[04:51] <jaqson> Does someone know how to disable some services on the system start up ?
[04:51] <nickrud> the canonical check is lsb_release -a in a terminal
[04:51] <nickrud> nathanael, ^^^
[04:52] <intelikey> yeah eric__  that makes sense.   now you have to load a kernel    kernel=vmlinuz      and   initrd=initrd.img      boot
[04:52] <eric__> intelikey: Are those things I have to add to yaboot.conf or is that a command I can enter someplace?
[04:53] <Janux> Hi everybody, I have a question.  In Xubuntu, I am not able to view Chinese in Nautilus, what should I do? any clue?  thanks.
[04:53] <bimberi> jaqson: you can use the update-rc.d command or install bum (boot up manager) for a gui
[04:53] <sir_spelunker> janux: learn to read english?
[04:53] <digikom> jaqson: system->administration->services deselect which ones you don't want
[04:53] <intelikey> eric__ i'm assuming "both"   but again it would help if i had at lease one time in my life seen and apple mac       8*{
[04:54] <Flannel> sir_spelunker: that's hardly a proper answer.
[04:54] <kholerabbi> Can I use the .deb packages for installing gaimbeta3 on breezy located at http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb/ (from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompileGaim)???
[04:54] <eric__> intelikey: For the purposes of making me less ignorant, let's assume I'm using a PC for the moment.
[04:54] <sir_spelunker> seems reasonable to me
[04:54] <Janux> sir_spelunker: pretty funny but I just wanna let my mom use it, I am used to read English, so any clue?
[04:54] <Flannel> Janux: you using dapper?
[04:54] <Janux> Flannel: yes
[04:54] <eric__> intelikey: What must I do next?
[04:54] <nickrud> jaqson, install the package bum, and it'll be available under System->Admin
[04:54] <Xenophoebic> anybody install dapper on a Chaintech VNF4 Ultra? last ubuntu wouldnt work either... keyboard wouldnt work on lang select...
[04:54] <defunkt> !opera
[04:54] <ubotu> download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[04:55] <mooseman447> hey is there anybody still here?
[04:55] <Flannel> Janux: well, there's no bugs re: chinese and nautilus, so it should be possible.  I, however, don't know how.
[04:55] <intelikey> eric__ ok on a pc   you would type   root=/dev/hda3  [enter]   kernel=vmlinuz [enter]   initrd=initrd.img [enter]  boot [enter] 
[04:55] <Madpilot> I've got a fun little hardware bug since upgrading to Dapper - when I shut down Ubuntu, my mouse doesn't get shut off - the red light stays on...
[04:55] <nickrud> hm, channel membership has dropped by about 120 since I got here
[04:55] <jkernsjr_> DUDES!!!!....Fantastic job..if any of you here actually worked on Dapper ;)
[04:56] <nathanael> lsb_release says 5.10
[04:56] <nathanael> how do I upgrade?
[04:56] <Flannel> nickrud: a lot was because of the two D-C things.
[04:56] <Janux> Flannel: yes, the thing is, if I install Ubuntu, it works automatically, I don't have to install anything extra and I can view chinese in Nautilus but not in Xubuntu
[04:56] <mooseman447> whoa ok does anybody know if updates need updates for dapper?
[04:56] <nickrud> nathanael, gksudo "update-manager -d"
[04:56] <nickrud> Flannel, ah.
[04:56] <mooseman447> know if apps*
[04:56] <intelikey> nathanael are you sure you want too ?
[04:57] <nickrud> lurkers got dropped
[04:57] <Flannel> Janux: you might try asking in the forums, since no one who's active here seems to know.
[04:57] <jkernsjr_> nathanael: update-manager rocks
[04:57] <Janux> Flannel: thanks
[04:57] <Mysta> hey guys, in Dapper what is the remote login via xdmcp allow me to do?
[04:57] <disinterested_pe> so will the packages in synaptic red hat ones allow me to install yahoo messenger.red hat?
[04:57] <jkernsjr_> intelikey: why nog?
[04:57] <Flannel> Janux: you might also try #xubuntu
[04:57] <intelikey> nog reason
[04:57] <nickrud> Janux, the xubuntu guys could use some help. manpower is the issue in a lot of things
[04:57] <nathanael> Excellent!!!!!!!!!!
[04:58] <Janux> Flannel: I asked there, nobody knows.
[04:58] <jkernsjr_> nog not..same thing
[04:58] <Flannel> Janux: heh, alright ;)
[04:58] <mooseman447> hmmm i have 2 systems that us ubuntu and i just upgraded both with the upgrade manager but one seems to look even newer like a new nautluis logo and stuff why dont you think this one looks like that too?
[04:58] <Sid> Hello?
[04:58] <Sid> Any Ubuntu Center users out there?
[04:58] <Flannel> Ubuntu Center?  is that the online help thing?
[04:59] <jkernsjr_> Sid: what is ubuntu center?
[04:59] <Sid> err sorta
[04:59] <eric__> intelikey: OK - the iMac doesn't freeze, but it doesn't respond helpfully.
[04:59] <T_D_H> would someone be able to help me get a breezy badger boot floppy image???
[04:59] <Sid> It's a PHP/MySQL/Apache conglomeration
[04:59] <eric__> intelikey: "No such file or directory"
[04:59] <jaqson> bimbery: I will try that. Thank you
[04:59] <Flannel> oh.  right, it's not the online help thing.  just some package something or other.
[04:59] <intelikey> eric__ at what point.   the  root=/dev/hda3  ?
[04:59] <nickrud> T_D_H, sure, send me some floppies, some money, & I'll build a cattable image :)
[04:59] <T_D_H> :o
[04:59] <eric__> intelikey: Right.
[04:59] <Sid> Ubuntu Control Center lets you stream music, access your files, and schedule torrent downloads from within a browser
[04:59] <T_D_H> isnt there somewere i can DL one???
[05:00] <intelikey> eric__ i suspect the addressing is quite different
[05:00] <Sid> among other things
[05:00] <jkernsjr_> how many people here using xgl/compiz?
[05:00] <nickrud> T_D_H, seriously, you need to install breezy without a cd?
[05:00] <bluefoxicy> ubotu: memprof
[05:00] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bluefoxicy
[05:00] <distanceisdeath> how do i open python IDLE?
[05:00] <Tibby> which iso should i download if i want to install ubuntu 6.06 to my computer?
[05:00] <Random_Transit> hey, this might sound like a noob question, but is there any way to upgrade from breezy to Dapper without losing data?
[05:00] <bluefoxicy> the memory profiler seems broken.
[05:00] <Tibby> i'm amd64
[05:00] <T_D_H> no i have the CD but i cant boot from CD its an old ass computer
[05:00] <disinterested_pe> ok, i forgot how to get superuser privlidges?
[05:01] <Flannel> disinterested_pe: sudo
[05:01] <Sid> jkernsjr_: I would, but I haven't found reliable ATI instructions
[05:01] <madewokherd> distanceisdeath: IDLE is only on windows
[05:01] <bimberi> disinterested_pe: sudo
[05:01] <distanceisdeath> well, how do i get the >>> thing?
[05:01] <intelikey> eric__ maybe root=/pcj@00000000/mac-io@10/ide@200000/disk@0<3>   just guessing at the <3>   maybe tab completion ?
[05:01] <nickrud> T_D_H, ah. There might be some info that will help, a sec
[05:01] <jkernsjr_> Sid: do you have ati accelaration already working?
[05:01] <mooseman447> does anybody see me?
[05:01] <disinterested_pe> i did that and i got requires superuser privlidges
[05:01] <bimberi> madewokherd: pardon?
[05:01] <bimberi> !info idle
[05:01] <ubotu> idle: (An IDE for Python using Tkinter (default version)), section python, is optional. Version: 2.4.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 60 kB
[05:01] <Flannel> mooseman447: nope, you're invisible.
[05:01] <T_D_H> K thank you, i have tried SMB like the cd said but it doesnt help
[05:01] <intelikey> anyone know mac addressing ?
[05:02] <jkernsjr_> mooseman447: moose are stelthy arent they?
[05:02] <mooseman447> seriously? this is a different irc program so i may have messed up something
[05:02] <jaqson> digikon: I dont have that services menu. My Ubuntu version is Hoary.
[05:02] <Flannel> mooseman447: no no, it's fine ;)
[05:02] <intelikey> what is the partition struct ?
[05:02] <jkernsjr_> mooseman447: what program you using?
[05:02] <mooseman447> lol im waaay to guilble late at night
[05:02] <Flannel> mooseman447: how else would I know to tell you you're invisible?
[05:02] <eric__> intelikey: Tab completion doesn't do anything.  Keying in the device path doesn't give me any different result.
[05:02] <mooseman447> i dunno maybe your "special" and can see me
[05:03] <Sid> jkernsjr_: yeah, I'm using fglrx
[05:03] <eric__> Seems like the ubuntu installer should have configured the yaboot correctly.  Did I screw something up in the installation process?
[05:03] <jaqson> nickrud: How can I find the package bum ? Give the apt repositorie for this pack, please.
[05:03] <Tibby> if i'm doing a regular install
[05:03] <intelikey> eric__ i say if possable boot the live cd and fix the boot loader from there.
[05:03] <jkernsjr_> Sid: hang on and Ill get you the instructions I used
[05:03] <nickrud> T_D_H, does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto help?
[05:03] <Sid> jkernsjr_: Sweet deal... Thanks!
[05:03] <bluefoxicy> T_D_H:  Get easyubuntu :P
[05:03] <mooseman447> hmmm how do i take screenshots in dapper?
[05:03] <T_D_H> nickrud ive used that proggy
[05:04] <Flannel> Random_Transit: an upgrade wont lose your data (well, ideally), but it's not a reinstall
[05:04] <Tibby> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso or ubuntu-6.06-alternate-amd64.iso
[05:04] <Sid> hahaha
[05:04] <Sid> Yeah automatix is cool
[05:04] <Sid> But then you learn how to make your own scripts
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> ubotu automatix
[05:04] <bimberi> jaqson: it's in the universe repository ...
[05:04] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[05:04] <bimberi> ubout tell jaqson about universe
[05:04] <T_D_H> [ NetWork BandWidth: 0 kb/s, Download: 0 kb/s, Upload: 0 kb/s ]  Record: [ Download: 0 kb/s, Upload: 0 kb/s ]  -=KoG-Fu=-
[05:04] <intelikey> eric__ maybe nickrud or someone has a mac  that can help ya.
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> Sid:  dirty is more like it :P
[05:04] <Sid> Really? I thought it'd been fixed
[05:04] <_mason> Hello, Could i speak / get help from anyone who has successfully got Half Life 2 working correctly in cedega?
[05:04] <eric__> Can I email him?
[05:04] <DarkLegacy> Hey
[05:04] <nickrud> jaqson, it's in the universe repo, but if System->Administration->Services works for you, you won't need bum
[05:04] <Tibby> i used to use the -install-amd64.iso
[05:04] <Flannel> Tibby: Alternative CD is the old textmode installer, Desktop CD is a liveCD, and then you install via the liveCD.  The alternative has more options/flexibility.
[05:04] <Sid> _mason: I have.
[05:04] <intelikey> bimberi even
[05:04] <Tibby> but there isnt an option
[05:05] <mooseman447> hello?
[05:05] <T_D_H> so anywayz, no one can help me with a floppy boot then im taking it as???
[05:05] <DarkLegacy> Is there any way to install Kubuntu over network?
[05:05] <hyphenated> _mason: cedega/transgaming support cedega. get your money's worth from them ;-)
[05:05] <eric__> intelikey: do they mind being emailed?
[05:05] <Tibby> which would you reccomend Flannel ?
[05:05] <intelikey> hehhe idk.
[05:05] <nickrud> T_D_H, alternative install methods are not my forte. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFloppies is the alternate method I've found
[05:05] <T_D_H> K ill check it out
[05:05] <Flannel> Tibby: well, since you've already installed with the textmode before, I'd continue with that.  liveCD is sometimes buggy, and gives you fewer install options
[05:06] <jkernsjr_> Sid: http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916
[05:06] <intelikey> nickrud you got mac ?
[05:06] <bimberi> eric__, intelikey: sorry no clues here either :/
[05:06] <jkernsjr_> what irc clients does everyone use?
[05:06] <nickrud> intelikey, no. Would like to have one though
[05:06] <intelikey> bimberi thanks same
[05:07] <intelikey> nickrud k
[05:07] <jaqson> nickrud: I could find services on that path
[05:07] <distanceisdeath> how do i isntall activepython?
[05:07] <Sid> jkernsjr_: Thanks man! With any luck, I'l have compiz running TONIGHT.
[05:07] <freakabcd> jkernsjr_, i use xchat. not that xchat-gnome crappy interface. ksirc sometimes
[05:07] <fairy> jkernsjr_, irssi or x-chat, depending on if I'm in console mode or not :P
[05:07] <nickrud> jaqson, check every response, some are more direct than others :)
[05:07] <Madpilot> mooseman447, to take screenshots, hit the PrntScrn key
[05:07] <Mysta> isnt the partitioning tool installed by default in DAPPER?
[05:07] <root_> i'm trying to get tri-monitors setup. 2 are running on nvidia and 1 is ati. They work fine in windows, but i dont even know if it it's possible in linux. any ideas?
[05:07] <Tibby> thanks Flannel
[05:07] <distanceisdeath> !activepython
[05:07] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, distanceisdeath
[05:08] <root_> whoops, that's a giveaway  ;)
[05:08] <distanceisdeath> man
[05:08] <TheUni> heh
[05:08] <eric__> intelikey: thanks for the guidance to this point.
[05:08] <freakabcd> TheUni, sure its possible. but you'll have to edit the conf file by hand.
[05:08] <fairy> In reference to an earlier question I had, I found out -what- is being output to TTY8,  It's the output of usplash, however, I can't figure out how to change where it outputs too :|
[05:08] <Madpilot> TheUni, still not a good idea to be root while you're on irc
[05:08] <freakabcd> i doubt theres a utility to generate the right setup for you
[05:09] <mooseman447> ..... wow im a idiot
[05:09] <fairy> Anyone know how to change where usplash prints it's messages?
[05:09] <TheUni> Madpilot: i never run root...
[05:09] <intelikey> eric__ In your patience possess ye your souls...  someone will come in with the answers you need.
[05:09] <James_M> Can anyone tell me what USB wifi dongles work without ndiswrapper?
[05:09] <TheUni> had to boot into failsave then run xserver as test. forgot i hadnt logged back off yet.
[05:09] <mooseman447> any ideas on why gnome looks different on this box then the one right next to it lol
[05:09] <freakabcd> James_M, depends on the vendor!
[05:09] <Flannel> mooseman447: they two different versions?
[05:10] <matti> http://nodus.estrefa.pl/~matti/tmp/wife-deb.jpg
[05:10] <freakabcd> mooseman447, rm -rf ~/.gnome* and some metacity stuff ,etc then you'
[05:10] <mooseman447> no everything is the same i update both within a day from the internet
[05:10] <TheUni> freakabcd: closest i've gotten is 2 screens stretched into 1, then 1 separate completely. any idea how to write the .conf ?
[05:10] <freakabcd> ll get the default setup
[05:10] <freakabcd> TheUni, woah. you want to _span_ 3 screens? go ask #xorg
[05:10] <James_M> freakabcd:  I just need something that will work with Ubuntu for PPC
[05:10] <nickrud> mooseman447, I second freakabcd I had that with different users on the same box
[05:10] <freakabcd> i don;t have experience with that. i don;t have 3 screens :(
[05:10] <TheUni> k
[05:11] <mooseman447> hang on ill get screenies
[05:11] <zach> can anyone help me get 2 screens going? ati 9500
[05:11] <intelikey> Madpilot you don't know mac/imac does you ?
[05:11] <Madpilot> intelikey, not at all
[05:11] <nickrud> intelikey, if you can pull nalioth back up, he knows a bit
[05:12] <intelikey> nickrud yeah.
[05:12] <nalioth> intelikey: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[05:13] <freakabcd> James_M, ppc or non-ppc doesn;t matter much iirc cos the os api is the same (from the driver point of view)
[05:13] <James_M> freakabcd, I mean something I won't have to ndiswrap
[05:13] <freakabcd> James_M, check if theres an oss driver first. if not, try the ndiswrapper stuff. if it still doesn't work, i have no clue
[05:14] <James_M> oss driver?
[05:14] <freakabcd> James_M, you mean: you want to know which hardware to buy?
[05:14] <James_M> freakabcd, yes
[05:15] <Geoffrey2> well, I'll ask one more time, since I can't find an answer on ubuntuforums at present...I have a Dell Inspiron 6000 with a Broadcom 1470 wlan, I managed to get the thing set up today and logged onto the network...then I powered down the computer....tonight, I can't get wireless...
[05:15] <UzzaDead> anyone know if kubuntu/ubuntu will work on an oldworld G3/G4?
[05:15] <bimberi> !oldworld
[05:15] <ubotu> somebody said oldworld was to install on an old world powermac, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[05:15] <James_M> UzzaDead, it will work
[05:15] <James_M> UzzaDead, but only if it has a PowerPC chip
[05:15] <mooseman447> does this work ftp://tests1:@moose.homelinux.org/
[05:16] <UzzaDead> yeah im talking G3 and G4 chips
[05:16] <James_M> UzzaDead, then yeah, it'll work
[05:16] <Geoffrey2> Network Manager shows only a wired connection....Netorking under Administration shows the wireless device as being active, but when I disable and re-enable, it can't connect to the router
[05:16] <Flannel> mooseman447: if we had a password, looks likeit.
[05:16] <mooseman447> no password
[05:16] <Geoffrey2> iwconfig shows the wireless card, but says there's no signal
[05:16] <UzzaDead> thanks James_M
[05:17] <mooseman447> does it come up?
[05:17] <freakabcd> mooseman447, works
[05:17] <mooseman447> any ideas?
[05:17] <zach> how can i set gdesklet starterbar to always be on top ..and on auto hide...........
[05:17] <James_M> Geoffrey2, I have the same problem with my USB dongle.  Post the exact output of iwconfig, then try typing in:  iwlist scan
[05:17] <luishhc> !update
[05:17] <ubotu> luishhc: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:17] <luishhc> !updates
[05:18] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, luishhc
[05:18] <luishhc> !upgrade
[05:18] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[05:18] <Geoffrey2> where should I post it...not in channel, I suspect
[05:18] <freakabcd> ubotu, tell Geoffrey2 about paste
[05:18] <tortho> anyone tryed partition magic to resize / ? is it safe?
[05:18] <roler> I just loaded dapper, and it is not running my Core Duo in SMP mode... How can I load a SMP kernel?
[05:18] <bohdan> tortho: you shouldnt resize partitions as a rule
[05:18] <mooseman447> do you see the differences?
[05:18] <jaqson> nickrud: I have ever added all the lines of the universe repositories I have found. Can you copy the line containing the bum pack to me ?
[05:18] <adamant1988> Yay I got my graphics card enabled ^_^
[05:19] <dr_willis> !smp
[05:19] <ubotu> from memory, smp is Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
[05:19] <nickrud> jaqson, are you on 5.10 or 6.06 ?
[05:19] <MadMerC> hi guys i have just plugged a new monitor in and now my screen res is stuck at a really low one can anyone help please
[05:19] <tortho> bohdan: Ok, but i have too little space, and my cdrom drive is broken... so no way to reinstall i guess?
[05:19] <dr_willis> roler,  search in synaptic for the smp ebabled kernels and install one
[05:19] <freakabcd> mooseman447, are both dapper?
[05:19] <roler> dr_willis; will that load the appropriate modules too?
[05:19] <mooseman447> yea both updated with the upgrade manager
[05:19] <freakabcd> i think one of them is behind in terms of updates to the other
[05:20] <bohdan> tortho: i have used and do use part magic to resize
[05:20] <Flannel> mooseman447: using different themes? what is different between the two?
[05:20] <mooseman447> some have different packages installed but same os from i can tell
[05:20] <dr_willis> roler,  no clue.. i see no reason why it shouldent.. they are part of the kernel
[05:20] <freakabcd> did you logoff and login on both machines?
[05:20] <bohdan> tortho: but i have lost data in maybe 5-10% of cases
[05:20] <fairy> Is there a way to change the output of startup scripts from tty8?
[05:20] <m1ke_l> hi ya'll....what is that app that will build a new source.list for me?
[05:20] <bohdan> tortho: so be warned :P
[05:20] <nickrud> jaqson, because my advice will be different
[05:20] <freakabcd> mooseman447, cos the icons and stuff will be updated on next login iirc
[05:20] <hyphenated> ubotu: sourceomatic
[05:20] <ubotu> hyphenated: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:20] <roler> thanks :)
[05:20] <freakabcd> by updated i mean: updated on the display
[05:20] <nickrud> !source-o-matic
[05:20] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:20] <mooseman447> its the iirc its the way nautlius looks
[05:20] <kholerabbi> Whats the best p2p software for ubuntu?
[05:20] <m1ke_l> thanks
[05:21] <hyphenated> close enough :-)
[05:21] <kramer3> Anyone here been very successful with 6.06 and a macbook pr?
[05:21] <freakabcd> mooseman447, those are old icons (the non -orange ones)
[05:21] <bohdan> oops
[05:21] <tortho> bohdan: any good things to do first? Is it better to shrink my windows part, and then make and mount a new linux part, in stead of resize? My win part, is not critical..
[05:21] <mooseman447> whoa i think it was theme!
[05:21] <freakabcd> mooseman447, try logging off the box with the old icons and login again
[05:21] <mooseman447> good call
[05:21] <bohdan> kholerabbi: try mldoney
[05:21] <James_M> does anyone have a USB wifi dongle they didn't need ndiswrapper to install
[05:22] <npodges> how do you make it so window focus doesnt change when you move your mouse, that is... so that you can still type in the selected window when the mouse moves
[05:22] <bohdan> tortho: yes shrink windows first
[05:22] <mooseman447> even though i never touched it the old one was set to custom and the new one as human
[05:22] <freakabcd> mooseman447, its the right theme 'human' which you can see is the one selected on both boxes by running gnome-theme-manager
[05:22] <bohdan> tortho: u might want to defrag and chkdsk it first though
[05:22] <freakabcd> mooseman447, eh, ok. change it to human
[05:22] <bohdan> tortho: saves lots of time and errors
[05:22] <mooseman447> yea i found it and fixed it but i wonder why it changed......
[05:22] <ziz> are there any know issues with sharing files with smb, between ubuntu i386 & amd64 version
[05:22] <MadMerC> i've justr plugged in a new monitor and the screen res is now set very low and i cant change it can anyone help ??
[05:22] <tortho> bohdan: but what about resize / or make and mount a new?
[05:22] <mooseman447> yup they look mostly normal now but i bet i just need to reboot to finish
[05:22] <kholerabbi> thanks - is there a disk defrag tool?
[05:23] <Geoffrey2> ok, it's in pastebin, 15235, I believe
[05:23] <Xyc0> I have a rather specific question about VLC on ubuntu, should I ask about it here or in a VLC chat?
[05:23] <freakabcd> mooseman447, there was a time during the dapper devel period where the theme somehow became 'custom' even when you selected 'human'
[05:23] <kramer3> Macbook pro.. anyone had any luck with this laptop?
[05:23] <freakabcd> but it was fixed a while before dapper was released
[05:23] <mooseman447> really?
[05:23] <dr_willis> Xyc0,  heh -  it may be best to check the vlc homepage/docs/faq
[05:23] <bohdan> tortho: if it was me i would shrink my windows part and then reboot and then resize your nix part
[05:23] <mooseman447> maybe because the one that looker older got upgraded first
[05:24] <axisys> i get this message "Totem could not play fd://0' Videocodec MSS2 is not handled." in my firefox
[05:24] <tortho> bohdan: Thanks, I'll try that :-)
[05:24] <mooseman447> thanks guys i need to sleep now
[05:24] <axisys> while trying to run this .. http://blog.outer-court.com/files/google-spreadsheets/1.wmv
[05:24] <freakabcd> mooseman447, yes, i had the same thing. everytime i selected human, it would revert to custom on the next login
[05:24] <freakabcd> then a few updates (few days) later, it was ok
[05:24] <mooseman447> hmm i didnt reboot yet to test that but how did you get it to stay?
[05:24] <axisys> how do i play wmv within firefox using totem?
[05:25] <mooseman447> ok
[05:25] <fairy> axisys, I might be a little off, but I believe you'd need to install w32codecs
[05:25] <freakabcd> mooseman447, err.. i never said 'reboot'. i just said logout and login :)
[05:25] <carlo> Man, I couldn't get the Broadcom to work with Dapper. Just gave up and used ndiswrapper. :(
[05:25] <freakabcd> mooseman447, don;t worry. it _will_ stay
[05:25] <kramer3> macbook pro,.. I guess I'll just give it a try and see what works..
[05:25] <tortho> I read somwhere about synaptics / update "on a stick" (USB memory stick) anyone who knows where it can be found? I can't find it again...
[05:25] <neogreen> Is there a website I can go to, to find how install and configure an Ubuntu Server?
[05:25] <axisys> fairy: i thought new automatix took care of that
[05:25] <ahmeni> axisys: you should be able to play it with w32codecs installed
[05:25] <Xyc0> I am using VLC player on a dualview setup, anyone know how to get VLC to always play fullscreen on the secondary monitor?
[05:26] <intelikey> mooseman447 thinking he's still using M$ reboot os ?
[05:26] <Geoffrey2> James_M: I pasted the iwconfig result to pastebin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15235
[05:26] <Anonycat> How do I add a network interface on Ubuntu?  I have a wireless card inserted in a PC slot, but the only interface showing is ppp0 and I don't see an option to add another one such as wlan0
[05:26] <Mysta> neogreen: there is an #ubuntu-server channel, you may want to start there.
[05:26] <axisys> ahmeni: automatix latest had the w32codec option to install
[05:26] <intelikey> Anonycat ifconfig
[05:26] <axisys> ahmeni: and i did install with that
[05:26] <neogreen> okay thanks
[05:27] <fairy> axisys, I'm not really familiar with automatix at all :( sorry.
[05:27] <fairy> axisys, it might depend on the version of wmv too.
[05:27] <intelikey> !automatix
[05:27] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[05:27] <fairy> I don't know if w32codecs handles wmv9 very well.
[05:27] <axisys> fairy: can u play this http://blog.outer-court.com/files/google-spreadsheets/1.wmv?
[05:28] <MadMerC> can anyone fix my resolution problem please
[05:28] <axisys> intelikey: i guess time to remove automatix then
[05:28] <Xyc0> Does LTS mean that the support cycle is extended?
[05:28] <fairy> axisys, afraid not.  I'm still in the config stage of setting up my system.  I'm also on dial-up (got about 30mb worth of downloads to go x.x;)
[05:28] <fairy> SO, it'll be a while before I get to enabling media-playing.
[05:28] <Whoops> lost my sound in totem-xine.....how to fix
[05:29] <intelikey> Xyc0 yup
[05:29] <tortho> Xyc0: Yes, 5 years i think
[05:29] <cyne> can i talk on skype with ekiga?
[05:29] <cyne> to skype users
[05:29] <Madpilot> MadMerC, have you seen http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?
[05:29] <jmworx> Is it worth filing a bug report for problems that I can't reliably reproduce? e.g. desktop freezes and I have to kill the x server, but only happened once.
[05:29] <freakabcd> axisys, dunno about fairy, but i sure can play that file
[05:29] <intelikey> 3/5  desk/server
[05:29] <Anonycat> I don't see an option in ifconfig to create a new interface, only to bring up or down an existing one.  Is there some syntax that will create a wlan0 interface, and if so, what?
[05:29] <fairy> Whoops, double check what sound plugin totems trying to use.
[05:29] <jkernsjr_> ubotu: your really anti automatix arent you?
[05:29] <ubotu> jkernsjr_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:29] <fairy> I've found when my sound disappears, it's usually because I lost the configuration to point it to esd or something stupid like that :P
[05:29] <Madpilot> jkernsjr_, ubotu is a bot :)
[05:29] <Flannel> cyne: yes. both use h323 clients
[05:29] <Xyc0> Is that supposed to comfort server admins?
[05:29] <freakabcd> jkernsjr_, ubotu us a bot!
[05:29] <Whoops> thanks fairy
[05:29] <jkernsjr_> haha
[05:29] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell jkernsjr_ about yourself
[05:29] <jkernsjr_> ok
[05:29] <cyne> Flannel.. very nice
[05:30] <jkernsjr_> a bot that doesnt like automatix?
[05:30] <Flannel> cyne: you can get more details at http://www.gnomemeeting.org
[05:30] <freakabcd> jkernsjr_, thats because automatix _is_ not nice
[05:30] <intelikey> Xyc0 it's sucker bait
[05:30] <jkernsjr_> ubotu: hello
[05:30] <ubotu> what's up, jkernsjr_
[05:30] <fairy> Whoops, might not be the same in your case, but it's something to look at nonetheless :)
[05:30] <Madpilot> jkernsjr_, it's an intelligent bot :)
[05:30] <Whoops> ty..............bbl
[05:30] <freakabcd> jkernsjr_, you can talk to the bot by privmsg (/query)
[05:30] <Rukia|Linux> Ugh
[05:30] <jkernsjr_> ubotu: where do you live?
[05:30] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jkernsjr_
[05:30] <freakabcd> so that bot spamming doesn;t happen in the channel. it will respond as usual though
[05:31] <intelikey> Xyc0 it's supposed to "sell" ubuntu    so to speak.
[05:31] <axisys> freakabcd: you can huh? using totem through firefox?
[05:31] <jkernsjr_> freakabcd: how do i turn off join/leave/timeout stuff in xchat?
[05:31] <freakabcd> axisys, nope. mplayer after wget
[05:31] <freakabcd> jkernsjr_, umm.. i dunno :( try asking in #xchat
[05:31] <Rukia|Linux> I'm new to linux and I would like some help on installing VLC please
[05:31] <Rukia|Linux> :S
[05:32] <axisys> freakabcd: i can too
[05:32] <axisys> freakabcd: but how about using totem through firefox
[05:32] <intelikey> Rukia|Linux sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:32] <freakabcd> so, its clearly established that its not w32codecs' fault
[05:32] <MTecknology> Rukia|Linux, do you know how to install software?
[05:32] <Rukia|Linux> Not really
[05:32] <freakabcd> axisys, why not install the mplayer-plugin ?
[05:32] <jkernsjr_> freakabcd: :) thanks
[05:32] <axisys> freakabcd: yeap
[05:32] <freakabcd> so firefox uses mplayer rather that that crap totem
[05:32] <MTecknology> Rukia|Linux, System>Administration>Synaptic
[05:32] <intelikey> !repos
[05:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[05:32] <Anonycat> intelikey: I don't see any option on ifconfig to actually add an interface.  Is there one, and if so what is it?
[05:32] <jkernsjr_> was readin wiki about ubotuusage
[05:32] <eigenlambda> is vlc in unicverse?
[05:32] <axisys> i did install mplayer plugin
[05:33] <eigenlambda> ya rukia
[05:33] <disinterested_pe> well everything works on my machine dont know why or how but my volume from keyboard doesnt
[05:33] <eigenlambda> use !easysource
[05:33] <eigenlambda> !easysource
[05:33] <freakabcd> axisys, then maybe you need to restart you're fiefox?
[05:33] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:33] <jaqson> nickrud: I am 5.04
[05:33] <axisys> but some media gets played by mplayer and some calls totem.. hmm
[05:33] <intelikey> Anonycat i'm network illiterate.  but  here's an example; ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up
[05:33] <tortho> Rukia|Linux: or in the commandline way, "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[05:33] <freakabcd> axisys, thats firefox config stuff
[05:33] <eigenlambda> Rukia|Linux: select main, restricted, universe, multiverse, and penguin libration front
[05:33] <fairy> here's maybe a dumb question... how can I update firefox past 1.0.8? :P
[05:33] <Anonycat> That only brings up or down an existing interface
[05:34] <freakabcd> the mime setup inside ff
[05:34] <Anonycat> The only interface that shows up for me is ppp0; I want to create a wlan0
[05:34] <eigenlambda> tortho: she doesn't have universe selected
[05:34] <fairy> apt-get install mozilla-firefox is a no go.
[05:34] <cge> fairy: Are you using dapper?
[05:34] <eigenlambda> Rukia|Linux: i bet u want win32codecs too...
[05:34] <freakabcd> cge, since when did dapper ever have 1.0.8 ?
[05:34] <eigenlambda> Rukia|Linux: are you looking to be able to watch bleach on linux?
[05:34] <Flannel> fairy: dapper has 1.5,if you want to stay on breezy, read the link ubotu will give you...
[05:34] <Flannel> !tell fairy about ff1.5
[05:34] <mnvl> !tell fairy about firefox1.5
[05:35] <tale_> I'm trying to compile eye of gnome from cvs, can somebody help me setup my environment?
[05:35] <freakabcd> thats right, the answer is never!
[05:35] <nickrud> jaqson, oh. Ok, that's the release from April (04) of 2005(5). You really should downoald the alternate cd for dapper, and install that. First though you need to make sure your home directory is backed up.
[05:35] <fairy> cge, nope.  Only breezy.
[05:35] <axisys> freakabcd: here is my firefox about:plugins look like http://pastebin.com/764390
[05:35] <intelikey> fairy apt-cache search mozilla-firefox      to check the package name and availabilty
[05:35] <tortho> eigenlamda, Ok, wasn't thinking that far :-) It's a little early, and my coffee isn't finnished yet :-)
[05:35] <cge> freakabcd: I was wondering whether it was a botched upgrade.
[05:35] <axisys> freakabcd: as u can see i do have mplayer plugin as well
[05:35] <fairy> thanks guys :)
[05:35] <eigenlambda> tortho: early?  are you like in the UK or like Nigeria or something?
[05:36] <humbolt> Is dapper a good choice for a server?
[05:36] <tortho> eigenlambda: Norway..
[05:36] <axisys> freakabcd: how do i modify the suffixes to play with media player instead of totem
[05:36] <kholerabbi> How do I open a .rar file?
[05:36] <Vaske_Car> How to restart server from SSH?
[05:36] <fairy> I'm waiting until my Dapper CDs arrive to upgrade, since the update-manager botched it last time :P
[05:36] <humbolt> I generally like dapper because of all the nice packages available, but what about stability?
[05:36] <eigenlambda> ;)
[05:36] <axisys> anyone know of a irc chnl for firefox?
[05:36] <freakabcd> axisys, ok. you've got the crappy totem plugin as well.
[05:36] <Flannel> Vaske_Car: 'server' being a program? or the whole computer?
[05:36] <axisys> freakabcd: hehe
[05:36] <eigenlambda> dapper is more stable than mac os x.4 neways...
[05:36] <Flannel> axisys: #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[05:36] <Jeffrae> Hi
[05:37] <kbrosnan> irc://irc.mozilla.org/firefox
[05:37] <Vaske_Car> Flannel, all computer
[05:37] <eigenlambda> ya totem sucks.  doesnt support nething.
[05:37] <axisys> thnx Flannel and kbrosnan
[05:37] <Flannel> Vaske_Car: sudo shutdown -r now (-r is for restart, -h is for halt)
[05:37] <eigenlambda> totem needs to support win32codecs
[05:37] <jason0_> Can anyone help me get grub configured to boot winxp on a secondary hdd?
[05:37] <eigenlambda> rite now totem is a joke
[05:37] <kholerabbi> freenode #firefox also
[05:37] <Jeffrae> Anyone know if Ubuntu PPC version has been run on an IBM pSeries or iSeries?
[05:37] <axisys> wonder with ubuntu defaults to totem.. may be license issue?
[05:37] <tortho> ubuntu update/package install through a memory stick, anyone seen anything about it? (it means downloading packages on another pc)
[05:37] <eigenlambda> i'm surprised ubuntu bundles totem by default instead of mplayer
[05:38] <freakabcd> eigenlambda, what are 'neways', 'nething' and 'rite' ?
[05:38] <kholerabbi> Aynow how to get archive manager to open rar archives?
[05:38] <Jeffrae> anyone know if there is a ubuntu ppc room?
[05:38] <freakabcd> i'm not criticizing, just mentioning that using the correct form is helpful to everyone :)
[05:38] <Madpilot> kholerabbi, install unrar or unrar-nonfree
[05:38] <eigenlambda> neways -> anyway; nething -> anything; rite -> right (sometimes)
[05:38] <eigenlambda> but u alrdy knew that
[05:38] <Vaske_Car> Flannel, what I need to set to be able to change attributes with FTP?
[05:38] <eigenlambda> i mean, how couldnt u have?
[05:39] <Madpilot> eigenlambda, please stick with English here, not AIMglish ;)
[05:39] <freakabcd> eigenlambda, yes, i must admit that i knew what they were meant to be
[05:39] <uNtouched> I gotta quick question for someone with a Dell laptop, I did it before but I can't remember how to get i8kutils to start working. Anyone know?
[05:39] <cge> Ok, with a clean dapper installation, I am having a bizarre issue with cpufreq. cpufreq_available_frequencies correctly shows all of the frequencies that my cpu can do. However, scaling_max_freq (not min) shows the LOWEST frequency, and I cannot set the frequency to anything other than the lowest. Has anyone else seen this problem?
[05:39] <crimsun> Jeffrae: there is no -ppc room afaik. Yes, it does run on iSeries.
[05:40] <FuSiOn> hello :)
[05:40] <tortho> uNtouched: what is i8kutils? I have a Dell Laptop..
[05:40] <uNtouched> tortho: it's to control the fans in Inspiron 8xxx and latitude laptops.
[05:41] <FuSiOn`> I got compiz and xgl running :O  its sexy.  Weird thing is though, I can't seem to stop it from doing some akward stuff.  Like for instance.  gaim.. if I minimize and then restore the bl it keeps moving off to the right and down a bit.  Like cascading sorta?
[05:41] <swim> hey folks, is there a mysql editor somewhere?
[05:41] <tortho> uNtouched: Oh... Only 8xxx, I have a 9300 wich i'm using now..
[05:41] <Vaske_Car> FuSiOn - LockOn ?
[05:41] <FuSiOn`> no idea
[05:41] <Vaske_Car> roger
[05:41] <Flannel> swim: what do you mean editor?
[05:41] <FuSiOn`> someone told me how to turn on window snapping
[05:41] <uNtouched> yeah it says something about comiling the kernel and I remember I did it with hoary, but can't remember how
[05:41] <swim> Flannel: umm I guess a sql text editor?
[05:42] <Vaske_Car> Why I can not change file attribues with FTP? Is it because of vsftpd.conf settings or because of system privileges?
[05:42] <Vaske_Car> attributes*
[05:42] <cge> swim: Like vim?
[05:43] <G8trBait> Anyone happen to know if there is a way to get the 'Help' in window programs running in WINE to work?
[05:43] <disinterested_pe> why is the dapper desktop cd larger mb's than the install cd?
[05:43] <swim> cge I guess, I'm just trying to make sure its not the editor im using that is causing a phpmyadmin import db problem
[05:43] <tortho> unNtouched: I'm installing it now..
[05:43] <cge> swim: Ah. I doubt it.
[05:43] <irieken> Sorry to bother you all, but I am having trouble getting my new 6.06 install to display properly at 800x480... It keeps going to 800x600, even though I specify 800x480 in the screen modes.
[05:43] <irieken> *in the xorg.conf file.
[05:44] <intelikey> G8trBait if there is.  you will need access the /windows/help/ dir  i guess.
[05:44] <cge> disinterested_pe: It has a complete unpacked installation, whereas the alternate install cd has compressed packages.
[05:44] <Madpilot> disinterested_pe, the desktop CD has the LiveCD stuff, and some Windows apps
[05:44] <tortho> uNtouched: require the kernel module i8k.o which can be compiled from the package sources or found in Linux kernel 2.4.14 and later versions.
[05:44] <cge> disinterested_pe: or actually I am not rational right now, please ignore that.
[05:44] <tortho> uNtouched: Guess I'm stuck there.... I'm not that advanced :-)
[05:44] <disinterested_pe> ok that explains it the install cd downloads all the stuff for the install
[05:45] <Flannel> disinterested_pe: because the desktop CD has a liveCD in it, the installCD only has textmode stuffs.
[05:45] <disinterested_pe> ok flannel
[05:45] <Madpilot> disinterested_pe, no, AFAIK both do the install totally off the CD
[05:46] <jkernsjr_> FuSiOn`: good stuff! I got mine working this morning
[05:46] <lasindi[lappy] > Hi all, I'm trying to get a SanDisk Sansa m230 MP3 player to work in Ubuntu. I've been reading that most MP3 players simply mount as USB storage devices, which it did. However, none of the MP3s are there, only the .wav files that contain the recordings from the microphone. How can I get to the actual music?
[05:46] <Flannel> Madpilot: correct.
[05:46] <intelikey> "<Madpilot> disinterested_pe, the desktop CD has the LiveCD stuff, and some Windows apps" <--- M$ software ???
[05:46] <humbolt> So when will dapper be stable? I am not asking for a release date here, I know it was already released!
[05:46] <Flannel> intelikey: yeah.  its got some OSS stuff, FF, etc.
[05:46] <Madpilot> intelikey, no, Windows versions of Firefox and such
[05:47] <freakabcd> intelikey, windows software as in firefox, abiword, etc for windows
[05:47] <neeto> Is there an easy way to get sources for apt? I am running into a lot of problems trying to get software that aren't hosted on the default apt sources.list
[05:47] <nekostar> ..................
[05:47] <nekostar> anyone try k3b with gnome in dapper?
[05:47] <cge> humbolt: I believe there is supposed to be a significant update in around two weeks.
[05:47] <Anonycat> I have a wireless PC card in a laptop, and ndiswrapper installed, but the only interface that shows up is ppp0.  How can I add a wlan0 interface to the list that appears in network-admin?
[05:47] <disinterested_pe> look i got us talking stuff about sizes lol
[05:47] <freakabcd> so that when they do the transition they already know which apps to use and how they look like
[05:47] <intelikey> when did gnome become windows ?
[05:47] <freakabcd> nekostar, whats the problem?
[05:47] <intelikey> X apps
[05:47] <nekostar> k3b being the ONLY application that does data verification after burn on a front end ~_~
[05:47] <Flannel> intelikey: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5#head-446eb822d35d6ee9251b357836e1c9c008f4566c
[05:47] <Madpilot> intelikey, it's a good way of making the LiveCD multipurpose
[05:47] <nekostar> freakabcd, b/c
[05:48] <intelikey> x-apps
[05:48] <nekostar> the last time i had dapper was a few months back and the permissions problems were abundunt
[05:48] <mrproper> How can I see how much memory is on my video card?
[05:48] <r0xoR> nekostar, not yet
[05:48] <nekostar> with cdrdao and cdrecord if i member rite
[05:48] <r0xoR> nekostar, i tried in breezy and it was broke
[05:48] <humbolt> cge: so ubuntu is not denying that dapper was not really ready for a release yet?!
[05:48] <intelikey> Windows is a registered trade mark.
[05:48] <nekostar> r0xoR, its fine in breezy
[05:48] <Flannel> Madpilot, disinterested_pe: I believe the installers WILL check for updated versions of software, and install those instead.  That's why it'll download stuff.
[05:48] <dr_willis> Only problem ive had with dapper is the silly cups printing system
[05:48] <barros_> i'm compiling a custom kernel but the rt2570 does not compile.. it is marked to be compiled as module...
[05:48] <nickrud> openoffice, say it again, openoffice. You want your joe blow little guy to see linux, put openoffice on his windows.
[05:48] <freakabcd> intelikey, what are you trying to say? its confusing.
[05:49] <nekostar> anyone tried installing nerolinux with dapper ?
[05:49] <freakabcd> nickrud, nope.
[05:49] <disinterested_pe> ive been linuxed for a month now and am finally enjoying it
[05:49] <freakabcd> its Openoffice.org
[05:49] <freakabcd> not openoffice
[05:49] <nickrud> freakabcd, :)
[05:49] <dr_willis> nekostar,  from what i hear - k3b beats nerolinux
[05:49] <freakabcd> :p
[05:49] <nekostar> !drm
[05:49] <r0xoR> humbolt, dapper is perfectly stable for me so far... no crashes, nothing bad
[05:49] <humbolt> cge: Or is that, what LTS means? If they keep up making this system better and better for the whole LTS periode, I would certainly welcome this strategy.
[05:49] <ubotu> nekostar: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:49] <barros_> anyone knows if rt2570 has any dependency other than NET AND NET_RADIO?
[05:49] <Madpilot> freakabcd, that's nickpicking ;)
[05:49] <nekostar> dr_willis, usually yes.
[05:49] <freakabcd> Madpilot, no it is not
[05:49] <nekostar> but when k3b is broken one must make do...
[05:49] <Flannel> humbolt: LTS means Long Term Support, as in, you'll recieve security updates for 3 years on the desktop, instead of 18 months.
[05:49] <r0xoR> freakabcd, no it's OpenOffice.org (capital both)
[05:50] <freakabcd> yes, i made a typo there
[05:50] <intelikey> freakabcd just pointing out the problem with calling x-apps  windows apps    windows apps are like explorer.exe  notepad.exe     not firefox and gedit
[05:50] <freakabcd> OOo
[05:50] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> hi
[05:50] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> can someone help
[05:50] <Flannel> intelikey: no, those are Windows apps, not windows apps
[05:50] <disinterested_pe> i cant get some things to install by the commands u get with the package but thats fine too
[05:50] <particleman> howdy everyone
[05:50] <cge> Flannel: I think humbolt was asking whether the updates would include bugfixes other than security issues.
[05:50] <freakabcd> intelikey, ah i see. we are trying to make today the 'pedantic day'
[05:50] <humbolt> r0xoR: well ext3 seems to eat up my files if I am nearly full. And well, dapper does not crash, it is not like FC5 on Xeon, but there are many bugs.
[05:50] <freakabcd> grr.. even i jumped into it :(
[05:50] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> I installed Xubuntu onto my computer, and now can i get packages from the newest ubuntu live cd because i have it?
[05:50] <nickrud> Madpilot, not nitpicking, copyright. freakabcd is right in there :)
[05:50] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> I installed Xubuntu onto my computer, and now can i get packages from the newest ubuntu live cd because i have it?
[05:50] <Flannel> cge, humbolt, ah, yes.  Bugfixes are also always included with the security stuff.
[05:50] <intelikey> Flannel read the post i mentioned it about. ^
[05:50] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> Flannel, hi
[05:50] <Madpilot> nickrud, bleh. Anyway, this chat belongs on -offtopic. :)
[05:51] <particleman> I've got an issue...I'm trying to install the newest server version of Ubuntu on a Dell 710m
[05:51] <Jeffrae> Ubuntu PPC  Any Takers?!?!
[05:51] <G8trBait> wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[05:51] <G8trBait> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[05:51] <freakabcd> particleman, are you nuts?
[05:51] <particleman> ideally as a dual boot with the (default, already there) install of XP
[05:51] <G8trBait> woopsie :)
[05:51] <adamant1988> Ok, so the Ubuntu XGL room is dead
[05:51] <neeto> Is there an easy way to get sources for apt? I am running into a lot of problems trying to get software that aren't hosted on the default apt sources.list
[05:51] <Madpilot> Jeffrae, ask your questions, there are some PPC users around usually...
[05:51] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> flannel, will i be able to use a ubuntu live cd to get packages off of it on my xubuntu computer
[05:51] <freakabcd> i'm on the 710m as well. i wouldn't want to run this laptop as a server
[05:51] <particleman> install goes fine, but it won't let me resize any partions
[05:51] <adamant1988> is it a reasonable idea to run Ubuntu XGL or should I hold off on that
[05:51] <freakabcd> ofcourse i have all the server stuff installed :)
[05:51] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: as a repository, yes.
[05:51] <nekostar> i assume there is still nothing for drm medai?
[05:51] <nekostar> *media
[05:52] <particleman> freak-ok, I may have just been dumb then...I just wanted to get the direct install version
[05:52] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> Flannel, how. i click ADD CD and it says checking index files but then unmounts the cd..
[05:52] <Jeffrae> Well I am wondering if anyone has used in on IBM
[05:52] <cge> neeto: You mean software that isn't it universe or multiverse, or just software that isn't in main?
[05:52] <humbolt> Flannel: Yes lots of bug fixes would be cool. An update/bugfix cycle even if there is no security issue.
[05:52] <Jeffrae> IBM's iSeries (AS400) or pSeries
[05:52] <particleman> since I figured I knew I was going to install it
[05:52] <Jeffrae> or i5
[05:52] <particleman> I didn't need the live cd capabilities
[05:52] <humbolt> Than dapper would again be worth it.
[05:52] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy`AO`OUT: I don't know what you mean.
[05:52] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> Flannel, im using synaptic manager
[05:52] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> flannel, there is an Add a CD thing at the top.
[05:52] <Flannel> humbolt: right, bugfixes will happen throughout support
[05:53] <neeto> cge: I mean firefox 1.5 for instance
[05:53] <particleman> and yeah...freak-if you can offer me some insight, please do
[05:53] <humbolt> I think that is missing in Linux distros. They should freeze the underlaying technology some time and just concentrate on bug fixes for a few releases!
[05:53] <cge> neeto: Oh, you are running breezy?
[05:53] <nekostar> brb dapper here i come ~_~
[05:53] <dr_willis> humbolt,  that goes for all computers and programs in general.. but new features 'sell' new stuff.
[05:53] <Anonycat> I have a wireless PC card in a laptop, and ndiswrapper installed, but the only interface that shows up is ppp0.  How can I add a wlan0 interface to the list that appears in network-admin?
[05:54] <ic56> Jeffrae: I don't think Linux is available for AS400 -- I read a discussion a while back on why the system architecture made that next to impossible
[05:54] <stbrenner> anyone know why Juk won't play mp3s?
[05:54] <AaronMT> I'm looking for a super easy XGL install guide for Dapper (ATI) for a complete newbie
[05:54] <freakabcd> particleman, just do a regular install (if you've dont it already its ok), then just iknstall all the server software you need
[05:54] <neeto> cge: hoary
[05:54] <r0xoR> humbolt, maybe you need to make your own distro instead of complaining about the one you're using?
[05:54] <freakabcd> AaronMT, check ubuntuforums.org
[05:54] <dr_willis> AaronMT,  id  advice not worrying about it at this time
[05:54] <oxez> Hm, when I boot the i386 dapper install cd on my main computer (AMD XP 2600+, no weird hardware), it works.. I try it on my old p3 450 (also, no weird hardware), I get a kernel panyc -- not syncing. How can I fix that?
[05:54] <freakabcd> AaronMT, theres a 'compiz: one thread to rule them all' thingy
[05:54] <jaqson> nickrud: Ok, I will do that in the future
[05:54] <cge> neeto: oh.
[05:54] <freakabcd> that links to all the relevant threads
[05:54] <intelikey> humbolt dr_willis yes.  it's sucker bait.... bells and whistles and flashing lights.....   sells gimics
[05:54] <jaqson> Bye.
[05:55] <Flannel> humbolt: ubuntu does that to a point.  Like, Dapper was the last of this 'cycle', and as such, the most polished.  Edgy will start another one, and be wild and crazy.
[05:55] <jaqson> I am exiting
[05:55] <AaronMT> freakabcd - Which subforum?
[05:55] <freakabcd> err.. let me find it for you!
[05:56] <cge> neeto: Well, you can upgrade to Dapper, or try /msg ubotu ff1.5 for information about getting firefox 1.5, though I am not sure those instructions work with hoary.
[05:56] <stbrenner> anyone know why kde players won't play mp3s?
[05:56] <AaronMT> I just installed dapper and reading these *possibly outdated* guides for XGL and seeing these hundreds of commands are confusing and overwhemling
[05:56] <freakabcd> AaronMT, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[05:56] <AaronMT> Let me have a look
[05:56] <DarkMageZ> !tell stbrenner about restrictedformats
[05:56] <nickrud> stbrenner, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats hs the details on mp3's for kde
[05:56] <ic56> oxez: you might want to boot in memtest on that p3.  Maybe some of the RAM is bad.
[05:56] <Geoffrey2> well, I think I can rule out a complete switchover to Ubuntu for the time being...
[05:56] <neeto> cge: Is there an easy way to upgrade kernels from inside ubuntu?
[05:56] <cge> AaronMT: That is how XGL is right now - confusing and overwhelming.
[05:56] <intelikey> stbrenner http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:56] <Flannel> AaronMT: XGL guides aren't that crazy.  But, XGL is NOT SUPPORTED in dapper.
[05:56] <stbrenner> is it any diff from Gnome?
[05:57] <nickrud> stbrenner, yes
[05:57] <stbrenner> could i use a KDE player in GNOME?
[05:57] <Flannel> AaronMT: http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 that one does a pretty good job of explaining and walking through.  and isn't really anything difficult, at that.
[05:57] <oxez> ic56: ok I'll try :o
[05:57] <oxez> thanks
[05:57] <nickrud> stbrenner, yes
[05:57] <stbrenner> w00t!
[05:57] <ic56> oxez: yw
[05:57] <cge> neeto: You mean upgrading the distribution, right? Try /msg ubotu upgrade for information about doing so.
[05:57] <intelikey> or a gnome player in kde for that matter
[05:57] <freakabcd> AaronMT, the links on the first post are updated and those other threads are updated quite regularly
[05:57] <neeto> cge: yeah, thanks
[05:58] <nickrud> as long as they point at a decent alsa config, anyway
[05:58] <freakabcd> Flannel, i would recommend the thread i just mentioned.
[05:58] <freakabcd> it is better iirc and more up to date
[05:58] <Flannel> neeto: remember you have to go hoary -> breezy -> dapper.  you can't go straight to dapper
[05:58] <pvangarde> hey! does anyone know a good PC-to-PC talking program (over the mic)
[05:58] <intelikey> nickrud when is the last time you saw one of those ?
[05:58] <dr_willis> pvangarde,  depends on how many ya want to chat to at the same time.
[05:59] <pvangarde> dr_willis 1
[05:59] <nickrud> intelikey, for the last 4 years. I buy supported cards, or intel :)
[05:59] <intelikey> :)
[05:59] <pvangarde> dr_willis: it needs to run on ubuntu and windows is the second requirement
[06:00] <alth> pvangarde: Skype?
[06:01] <pvangarde> alth: no, doesnt work well... too much lag
[06:01] <intelikey> pvangarde apt-cache search talk
[06:01] <alth> pvangarde: Then most things will probably lag.
[06:01] <us> Im getting an error starting X,.. "mkdtmp: private socketdir: Permission denied" every time, any ideas how to fix?
[06:01] <Anonycat> I have a wireless PC card in a laptop, and ndiswrapper installed, but the only interface that shows up is ppp0.  How can I add a wlan0 interface to the list that appears in network-admin?
[06:02] <nickrud> pvangarde, ekiga is the suggested app (in the menu anyway).
[06:02] <KuLover> Anyone here install firefox from source that might know what im talking about?
[06:02] <krazykit> KuLover: maybe
[06:02] <nickrud> KuLover, I did that once or twice. What are we talking about?
[06:02] <pvangarde> nickrud: ekiga doesnt work in windows
[06:02] <intelikey> us remove the existing one ?
[06:03] <pvangarde> alth: its about the encoding of the sound, not about the program itself, and skype isnt the best PC-to-PC app for that.
[06:03] <nickrud> pvangarde, well, the voice thing is pretty new from my perspective. I'm not suprised it's not working well
[06:03] <zach> does anyone know where AMSN installs to....i want to install differnt skisn
[06:03] <KuLover> nickrud and krazykit, when trying to open firefox in the terminal, it asks for libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0. Do you know which package I need to install for this?
[06:03] <Vaske_Car> how do i KILL /mysql-data-directory/thisfile.pid   ?
[06:04] <us> remove the existing what intelikey?
[06:04] <intelikey> kill -9 <pid>
[06:04] <eigenlambda> cat /mysql-data-directory/thisfile.pid | xargs kill ?
[06:04] <zach> where are apps installed to?
[06:04] <dr_willis> zach,  depends. :P
[06:04] <pvangarde> id install a windows program only if wine ever worked
[06:04] <zach> well i installed with apt get
[06:04] <dr_willis> zach,  thers no one defacto 'program directory'
[06:04] <intelikey> us socket or dir of file or what ever that is.... i don't read that language...
[06:05] <G8trBait> pvangarde: I use it for mIRC, love it :)
[06:05] <nickrud> KuLover, libgtk2.0-0 contains that file
[06:05] <dr_willis> zach,  it depends on the app.  - synaptic can tell you what files got installed where.
[06:05] <intelikey> us maybe sudo rm $HOME/.*auth*
[06:05] <KuLover> nickrud, I have that installed, might it be different for 64bit users? I thought it was that one to, it worksed on my 32bit setup.
[06:05] <valehru2> Hey guys
[06:06] <Surfnmate> bbl guys
[06:06] <Surfnmate> keep ubunting
[06:06] <Vaske_Car> I used sudo kill `cat /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid` but it say permission danied
[06:06] <nickrud> KuLover, but you probably need the dev file during compilation: libgtk2.0-dev
[06:06] <us> thanks, will give it a go
[06:06] <valehru2> Any volunters that could test my FTP server?
[06:06] <valehru2> just check to see if you can access it?
[06:06] <nickrud> KuLover, oh, 64bit.
[06:06] <valehru2> ftp://24.98.143.4:21
[06:07] <nickrud> KuLover, I haven't compiled anything in 64 bit
[06:07] <ic56> valehru2: sure
[06:07] <valehru2> ok..
[06:07] <valehru2> thanks
[06:07] <KuLover> nickrud, I think firefox is already compiled, it just needs the dev files to open.
[06:07] <nickrud> dev files to compile, lib files to run KuLover
[06:08] <jkernsjr> valehru: wanted password for anonymous?
[06:08] <valehru2> is anon login enabled?
[06:08] <ic56> valehru2: Your ftp server gave me a prompt.  It did not accept anonymous login.
[06:08] <valehru2> ok thats fine
[06:08] <jkernsjr> valehru2: that would be on your side
[06:08] <valehru2> didnt want anon connections
[06:09] <jkernsjr> valehru2: then you would have to provide username/passwords
[06:09] <gavagai> i just installed ubuntu, and my resolution is 800x600.  i went to the preferences, screen resolution menu, but it doesn't list any drop-down options to change the resolution
[06:09] <zach> ok how do i move folders around in bash? i need root to put folders wehre i need them....
[06:09] <dr_willis> !fixres
[06:09] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:09] <gavagai> thanks
[06:09] <valehru2> yeah.....just checked to make sure that it wasnt enabled......thanks jkernsjr
[06:09] <Mysta> hello why would easyubuntu install another kernel?\
[06:10] <bigredradio> Anyone have a lead on a fast mirror. All the mirrirs I have tried are going to take 12 hours.
[06:10] <eigenlambda> zach: mv?
[06:10] <JunK-Y> zach: man mv
[06:10] <ic56> valehru2: also low timeout.  closed teh connection before I did.  Said the timeout was 120 seconds
[06:10] <valehru2> too low?
[06:10] <zach> ok so i need to move a folder into another folder
[06:10] <JunK-Y> or use cp.
[06:10] <zach> can you give me a example
[06:10] <Anonycat> I have a wireless PC card in a laptop, and ndiswrapper installed, but the only interface that shows up is ppp0.  How can I add a wlan0 interface to the list that appears in network-admin?
[06:11] <Crazy_Man> I updated my media server to dapper...it had a dual display (secondary monitor as tv)...it's not displaying anything on the TV now...any ideas?
[06:11] <valehru2> login timeout: 300 idle timeout: 120
[06:11] <intelikey> zach what part of   man mv   did you not understand ?
[06:11] <Crazy_Man> I'm running an nvidia card with the latest drivers
[06:11] <zach> i didnt understand it
[06:11] <ic56> valehru2: hey, it's your server.  Too low for my taste, but if you make it long, nasties could take advantage of you.
[06:11] <Crazy_Man> for some reason, it can't find the TV display...
[06:11] <valehru2> thats what I was thinking....
[06:11] <Crazy_Man> and I can't figure out why, since xorg.conf is exactly the same
[06:12] <disinterested_pe> the second one in usa downloads fast
[06:12] <zach> man mv what?  sudo man mv folder       um what?
[06:12] <intelikey> zach    mv [OPTION]  SOURCE DIRECTORY
[06:12] <valehru2> ic56, its only for my own use, pretty nifty off the shell
[06:12] <valehru2> tis fast enough for me
[06:12] <zach> but i dont under stand where to i set the source....i
[06:12] <ic56> valehru2: makes sense. ttyl!
[06:12] <intelikey> zach type   man mv     in the terminal
[06:12] <sn00p> Whats the flash plugin for ubuntu for dapper drake?
[06:13] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> does anyone know of a cd that has packages on it?
[06:13] <Ademan> what repository is libdvdcss in again?
[06:13] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> I need a cd that has packages for my computer with no internet
[06:13] <intelikey> zach "<zach> but i dont under stand where to i set the source....i"  <---  are you saying you want to move a folder but you don't know what folder ?
[06:13] <Geoffrey2> well, I need to use this computer wirelessly for a while, so I guess it's back to Windows......
[06:13] <bohdan> Hi, does anyone know of any extra repositiories i can add for dapper? i have all the multi and universe ones already
[06:14] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> anyone know where i can d/l a cd with new stuff
[06:14] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> for my computer with no net
[06:14] <sn00p> !info flash plugin
[06:14] <zach> no ok i have a folder on desktop that i want moved to /usr/share/amsn/skins
[06:14] <bohdan> Geoffreny2: no wireless in nix?
[06:14] <Ademan> [CC] Impsy`AO`OUT: isnt htere a dvd iso?
[06:14] <dr_willis> !easysource
[06:14] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:14] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> Ademan: im looking
[06:14] <sn00p> !info mozilla-flashplugin
[06:14] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> Ademan: cant find
[06:14] <ic56> intelikey: :-D
[06:15] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> hey
[06:15] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> i need it for xubuntu
[06:15] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> do i just pick on that list
[06:15] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> dapper/
[06:15] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> or somethign
[06:15] <Geoffrey2> it's on onboard wifi card...I managed to get it up and running ....but since I restarted I can't get wireless back
[06:15] <intelikey> zach so sudo mv Desktop/<blah> /usr/share/amsn/skins
[06:15] <hedrek> amarok/rhythmbox won't play my smbfs mounted mp3s, but xmms can just fine.. anyone else using smbfs to mount their mp3s and using amarok or rhythmbox?
[06:15] <zach> thanks lol
[06:16] <intelikey> there is nothing hard about that.    mv source destination
[06:16] <intelikey> there is nothing hard about that.    cp source destination
[06:16] <bohdan> Geoffrey2: wat model
[06:16] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> i need to get this stuff on a cd..
[06:16] <zach> i didnt relize it was just a space between source and dest.
[06:16] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> where can i get a cd full of stuff.
[06:16] <Geoffrey2> Broadcom 1470
[06:17] <Mysta> i have a core duo processor and nvidia drivers, and tried to have easyubuntu install the nvidia drivers, and it installed the K7 smp package. now if i try and uninstall K7 SMP, it'll uninstall nvidia-glx
[06:17] <Mysta> any ideas why?
[06:17] <chris_-> does DBO come in here these days?
[06:17] <bohdan> Geoffrey2: u usin ubuntu right?
[06:17] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> where can i get a cd full of stuff.
[06:17] <ic56> zach: it's the same way on the Windows command line.
[06:17] <krazykit> Mysta: no, but you shouldn't use that kernel.
[06:17] <zach> ive only been using linux for about 3 days..... :)..... i never used windows command line
[06:17] <Geoffrey2> bohdan: Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake
[06:17] <pvd> Is 64bit ubuntu pretty stable now, besides the flash and java problem, and will you notice any speed increase overall?
[06:17] <intelikey> zach yeah those .... in the manual are odd to say the least
[06:17] <chris_-> DBO ....???
[06:17] <CrashProne> Ridiculously newbie question.  I accidentally wiped my system tray off the bar in GNOME, and can't seem to find what applet it is to put it back. ^^;; what is it/how do I put it back?
[06:18] <krazykit> notification area, CrashProne
[06:18] <bohdan> Geoffrey2: you usin any encryption on ur access point?
[06:18] <nickrud> Mysta, I'd say let it and reinstall, but krazykit is getting a bit more detailed
[06:18] <CrashProne> Notification area then, righto
[06:18] <Geoffrey2> yes, WEP
[06:18] <chris_-> is dapper drake stable now?
[06:18] <nickrud> chris_, it's released, yes
[06:18] <bohdan> Geoffrey2: ok, so wat does it do? or not do lol when you try to connected to the accesspoint?
[06:19] <Mysta> nickrud: let what reinstall?
[06:19] <krazykit> Mysta: well, yes, make sure to use a 386 or 686 kernel, preferably with SMP.  then just follow the nvidia guide on the wiki.  that would be most correct.
[06:19] <chris_-> nickrud , i dont want to upgrade becausa of my settings ? :/
[06:19] <ic56> chris_-: you could try leaving a message for DBO.  /msg memoserv send DBO <blab>
[06:19] <nickrud> Mysta, see krazykit above
[06:19] <krazykit> chris_-: you can upgrade without losing your settings
[06:19] <nickrud> chris_, ?
[06:19] <chris_-> can you clone your hard drive in ubuntu?
[06:19] <us> intelikey - just to let you know how I fixed my socket problem, turns out all users needed write access to the tmp dir
[06:20] <nickrud> chris_, sure. There's some details to take care of, but yes.
[06:20] <intelikey> us yes they do.   /tmp needs 777
[06:21] <krazykit> intelikey: err, i don't think /tmp needs execute perms...
[06:21] <chris_->  /msg memoserv send DBO How are you doing its Chris tha apache guy you helped with :P  and smaba!! umm just saying hi and pass you a cup of coffee!!
[06:21] <intelikey> krazykit hehhe all dirs need exec
[06:21] <chris_-> lol did i send it?
[06:21] <Disorder> Nice...
[06:21] <nickrud> chris_, no, leave out the space at the start ...
[06:21] <Disorder> Really...
[06:21] <ic56> us: make sure you chmod 1777 /tmp  The leading 1 is important for security reasons.
[06:21] <Rukia|Linux> /nick /nick Rukia
[06:21] <chris_-> ha :X
[06:22] <chris_-> not registered
[06:22] <Rukia> bah
[06:22] <chris_-> ok well thanks for the help guys
[06:22] <Rukia> REgistered
[06:22] <chris_-> :)
[06:22] <Disorder> What would you guys said if im using windows right now =P ;)
[06:22] <Geoffrey2> before I shut down the computer, I was fully connected to the router...since I restarted the Network Manager icon only shows a Wired Network...going into Networking and disabling/re-enabling the wlan causes the connecting window to pop and and stay up for an extended period of time before the message displays that the interface is active...meaning it didnt connect to anything
[06:22] <chris_-> i ran mac os x on my dell laptop :P
[06:22] <Rukia> Wow
[06:22] <Rukia> Cool
[06:22] <chris_-> osx86 ;)
[06:22] <Rukia> gfy
[06:23] <chris_-> i met the pirate at the bay
[06:23] <intelikey> krazykit did ya check it out ?
[06:23] <Rukia> Eww Gaim
[06:23] <Disorder> Thats pretty weird Chris.
[06:23] <ic56> chris_-: you can find out when he last logged in with /msg nickserv info DBO
[06:23] <krazykit> intelikey: huh?  check what out
[06:23] <krazykit> chris_-: we don't condone piracy here
[06:23] <cyne> hello! i have my laptop running from the mains... but when my battery gets charged fully like now... the screen starts to flash in ubuntu and the whole system slows down as a result
[06:23] <intelikey> krazykit mkdir blah ;chmod 644 blah ;cd blah
[06:24] <Geoffrey2> iwconfig and, iflist I believe, both show the card as being present
[06:24] <MTecknology> cyne, my battery lasts about 20 minutes if I'm not doing anything on it :)
[06:24] <krazykit> intelikey: what are you on about?  i don't know what you're talking about.
 intelikey: err, i don't think /tmp needs execute perms... <---<intelikey> krazykit hehhe all dirs need exec <<--- that
[06:25] <cyne> is there a way to stop the flashing screen???
[06:25] <ESPOiG> im getting no reply from #fedora, so does anyone know how to copy the folder /usr/share/icons/ from FC5 cuz even with root access it keeps erroring :@
[06:25] <ESPOiG> :S
[06:25] <krazykit> intelikey: no, all dirs don't need exec.  lots of them don't.  /etc,/var,/dev,/proc
[06:25] <Disorder> Damn, This is insane.
[06:26] <maddy> apps are crashin  :(  u get this ?
[06:26] <adrigen> hello...
[06:26] <nickrud> cyne, the laptop people probably want to know about that. Hardware types, that kind of thing
[06:26] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> so does anyone know of a cd that is loaded with software
[06:26] <adrigen> i have a question which I think should be simpl
[06:26] <Disorder> What kind?
[06:26] <adrigen> e but im stuck...
[06:26] <cyne> nickrud: how do i tell them?
[06:26] <intelikey> krazykit if you think so just chmod them and take away the exec from them ....  hehhe
[06:26] <cdubya> could someone running xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop possibly give me a copy of your menu.xml file for the applications menu.....somehow, when I tried to edit it, it decided to delete all the entries and I can't seem to get it to save anything when I do an edit.
[06:26] <adrigen> how do I install a "binary"?
[06:26] <Disorder> Impsy, What kind?
[06:26] <jkernsjr> ESPOiG: what ikd of error?
[06:26] <krazykit> intelikey: i'd rather not.
[06:27] <jkernsjr> ESPOiG: kind
[06:27] <intelikey> :)
[06:27] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> Disorder, what do you mean?
[06:27] <ic56> krazykit: you are wrong.  Without the execute bit, you cannot descend into a directory.  You only need read permission to see the contents but you need execute perm to *access* a directory's contents.  Try it.
[06:27] <nickrud> cyne, start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting
[06:27] <cyne> nickrud.. i believe the flashing has a purpose... it informs me that the battery is fully charged and i'm running from aus] xillary power
[06:27] <JerKB> adrigen: if it's a deb, use dpkg -i <filename>
[06:27] <Disorder> Impsy, What type of programs? Like for what purpose?
[06:27] <blaze> can somebody tell me how to install drivers for my video card: Integrated in VIA VN800 with UniChrome Pro 3D/2D up to 64 MB;
[06:28] <krazykit> huh, how 'bout that.
[06:28] <nickrud> cyne, I don't use a laptop, but I probably will. If you get that sorted, I won't have to think about it :)
[06:28] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> Disorder, just programs like video and music playback software, and alot of games.
[06:28] <adrigen> JerKB: so i dont uncompress it first?
[06:28] <Disorder> Ah, recreation progs.
[06:28] <JerKB> adrigen: nope, dpkg takes care of that.
[06:29] <Disorder> Sorry, Dont really have any.
[06:29] <ic56> krazykit: on directories, the X bit was reused as the "search bit".  Think of it as operator overloading.
[06:29] <kpdawg> join #sane
[06:29] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> Disorder, but i would like to load up with anything.
[06:29] <kpdawg> #sane
[06:29] <Disorder> I have mostly Wireless progs.
[06:29] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> well disorder is there a cd around.
[06:29] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> im looking for an already made iso cd
[06:29] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> that has software on it
[06:29] <krazykit> ic56: huh.  that's an interesting way of doing it.
[06:29] <Disorder> I dont think, I kind of put some of my progs on it.
[06:30] <Disorder> Like the ones I use commonly.
[06:30] <toshi> Problem with nvidia installation. gl.h is NOT in /usr/include/GL or /usr/X11/include/GL where it should be. It is only in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-dev/include/GL/gl.h
[06:30] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: get a DVD : http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/release/dvd/
[06:30] <toshi> This is on Dapper
[06:30] <intelikey> if you can't exec a dir you can't access anything in them.  you can ls them if you can read them  but no access.
[06:30] <maddy> i get pps crashing on dapper like hell
[06:30] <maddy> apps
[06:31] <maddy> and the whole x hoses
[06:31] <maddy> sometimes
[06:31] <toshi> is there a clean way to solve this gl.h problem? like reinstalling the nvidia modules?
[06:31] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> whats on the dvd flannel
[06:31] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> and how big would it be, i Have A CD
[06:31] <adrigen> JerKB: "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[06:31] <adrigen> "??
[06:31] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> not a dvd :p
[06:31] <Flannel> [CC] Impsy|NH: more programs.  If you only have a CD, you can't use a DVD.
[06:31] <Disorder> Linux isnt really my main OS, I use Linux solely for wardriving.
[06:31] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> omg damn
[06:31] <intelikey> adrigen sudo
[06:31] <Hivemind> Hey everyone!
[06:31] <JerKB> adrigen: oops, put sudo in front of it.  sudo dpkg -i <filename>
[06:32] <Geoffrey2> well, I'm throwing in the towel for now....I'll post a message on ubuntuforums and see if anyone has an answer on how to get my wireless back...it's kind of pointless to have a portable computer which can't network unless it's hard wired :)
[06:32] <intelikey> !root
[06:32] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:32] <ic56> intelikey, krazykit: note that "ls -l" entails accessing the file's inode to lookup the file's perms, datestamps, etc.  Thus, "ls -l" on a directory that lacks search bit gives you the list of files and incongruously complains that teh files don't exist :-)
[06:32] <thomasM> hey guys, just wondering if that problem with HAL ubuntu had with NJB mp3 players got fixed for dapper. Anybody know?
[06:32] <Hivemind> I need a little bit of help. I just downloaded the .iso for Dapper, burned it to a CD and booted. Did I download a Live CD?!
[06:32] <intelikey> ic56 si
[06:32] <Anonycat> I have a wireless PC card in a laptop, and ndiswrapper installed, but the only interface that shows up is ppp0.  How can I add a wlan0 interface to the list that appears in network-admin?
[06:32] <Hivemind> I was expected something else when I clicked "Start or Install Ubuntu"...
[06:33] <JerKB> Hivemind: it's a live and install cd, both.
[06:33] <intelikey> ?--------- ? ? ? ?            ? blah/bob
[06:33] <krazykit> ic56: that makes sense, then.  i'd expect it to have to hit the inode for that stuff.
[06:33] <Flannel> Hivemind: which iso did you download?
[06:33] <Hivemind> JerKB: Ah!
[06:33] <ic56> krazykit: exactly.
[06:34] <Hivemind> Flannel: An x86 one that was not marked with "Alternate"
[06:34] <Flannel> Hivemind: right, the LiveCD (desktop) is an installer.
[06:34] <ic56> krazykit: correction.  The error message is: ls: <filename>: Permission denied
[06:34] <pvd> ati cards work fine if you just use the generic open source driver right
[06:34] <intelikey> one can chmod 001 /*bin     and exec all commands in it  but tab-completion of the command name is hosed
[06:34] <krazykit> pvd: they work ok.
[06:35] <pvd> what do you mean?
[06:35] <pvd> we dont need 3d accelerated graphics
[06:35] <krazykit> pvd: on newer cards you won't have 3d
[06:35] <intelikey> ic56 ^
[06:35] <Hivemind> Flannel: Oh! Well then. It's a little inconvenient because my resolution is stuck at 640x800...
[06:35] <thomasM> anybody here use an Creative/Dell music player?
[06:35] <krazykit> pvd: oh, then you should be fine
[06:35] <pvd> yeah, dont need 3d acceleration
[06:35] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> OMG how can i get Banshee on my internetless computeR!
[06:35] <pvd> cool
[06:35] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> why dont they have a downloads section!
[06:35] <Hivemind> I'll go poke around and figure out what I'm supposed to be doing. Thanks a lot for clearing that up.
[06:35] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> why cant i just download and install! bah this is making me go crazy
[06:35] <Flannel> !tell Hivemind about resolution
[06:35] <krazykit> [CC] Impsy|NH: because then you'd be running windows
[06:36] <krazykit> [CC] Impsy|NH: you need the dependencies.  that's how it is
[06:36] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> wow
[06:36] <pvangarde> somehow my hibernate now works fine with nvidia drivers on version 6.06
[06:36] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> isnt there a way to d/l banshee
[06:36] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> and install it manually
[06:36] <Disorder> And thats what Linux lacks(coughsuckscough) at.
[06:36] <krazykit> [CC] Impsy|NH: yes, but you have to track down all the depencies, too
[06:36] <ic56> intelikey: right.  with search perm but no read perm on a directory, you can access the contents but you can't see it.  You can use to create rudimentary password protection: create a directory w/ 644, containing another directory whose name acts as the password. Put all the files under that.
[06:36] <intelikey> ic56 i have one box with almost all dirs set to 001  interesting to use btw.
[06:36] <JerKB> Impsy, go to the repository and download the .debs but you'll need to get all the dependant pkgs too.
[06:37] <cdubya> anyone running xfce that wouldn't mind helping me figure out how to get the xfce menu back......?
[06:37] <chris_> what is this dbo stuff about?
[06:37] <thomasM> nobody has any clue about HAL not setting correct permissions for NJB mp3 players or whether or not it has been fixed?
[06:37] <krazykit> Disorder: the benefits outweight the drawbacks, in this regard.
[06:37] <JerKB> cdubya: did you try running update-menus  from a terminal?
[06:38] <JerKB> it's not quite the default menu but it should put all your apps in there.
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Sometimes I think you just set up weird configurations to be different and see if they're possible.
[06:38] <ic56> chris: dbo stuff?  You the guy who goes by the nickname DBO?
[06:38] <thomasM> !tell thomasM about njb
[06:38] <Anonycat> I have a wireless PC card in a laptop, and ndiswrapper installed, but the only interface that shows up is ppp0.  How can I add a wlan0 interface to the list that appears in network-admin?
[06:38] <pvangarde> does gnome group tasks into single bars by default?
[06:38] <AngryElf> so -- everytime I've installed mythTV I've had to re-link the freetype6 libraries up because they're not linked correctly within themselves ( has nothing to do with myth ).....would this be considered a bug?
[06:38] <ic56> chris: dbo stuff?  You (mean) the guy who goes by the nickname DBO?
[06:39] <intelikey> tonyyarusso some times you are smarter than the avarage bear
[06:39] <intelikey> :)
[06:39] <krazykit> AngryElf: certainly would, yes
[06:39] <Cornellius> Can I add a Debian repository ? I mean, will debs. made for Debian will work on Ubuntu ? Some of the ?
[06:39] <nickrud> pvangarde, not to start with, but if the same task has a lot of instances, it will start to group them
[06:39] <Hexidigital_> Anonycat:: what type of wireless chipset?
[06:39] <schwal> i had to install via oem mode, now i cant figureout how to restart out of it
[06:39] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> so i can build banshee from its source?
[06:39] <krazykit> Cornellius: i don't think we're binary compatible anymore
[06:39] <Hexidigital_> Cornellius:: yes, (most) of them will work
[06:39] <nickrud> Cornellius, not reliably
[06:39] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> because i dont see any .deb files or anything
[06:40] <dyclops> er irc.nullus.net
[06:40] <Cornellius> errr
[06:40] <Anonycat> it's a Linksys WPC54G, driver lsbcmnds.sys
[06:40] <Hexidigital_> krazykit:: i havent' had many problems
[06:40] <Cornellius> 3 different answers !
[06:40] <adrigen> JerKB: I get "sudo dpkg -i Home/downloaded/ConsultComm-3.1.1.zip
[06:40] <adrigen> dpkg: error processing Home/downloaded/ConsultComm-3.1.1.zip (--install):
[06:40] <adrigen>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[06:40] <adrigen> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:40] <adrigen>  Home/downloaded/ConsultComm-3.1.1.zip
[06:40] <adrigen> "
[06:40] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> so i can build banshee from its source?
[06:40] <krazykit> Hexidigital_: but many others have
[06:40] <nickrud> Cornellius, no, just ways of saying the same thing. not got
[06:40] <Hexidigital_> Anonycat:: sorry... if it was a broadcom, i might be able to help
[06:40] <thomasM> [CC] Impsy`AO`OUT: if you have all of the prerequesites
[06:40] <krazykit> [CC] Impsy|NH: if you get all the build dependencies
[06:40] <Hexidigital_> krazykit:: ah, wasn't aware of that
[06:40] <JerKB> adrigen:  err... ok if it's a .zip you'll have to extract that, yes.  Then look for a file possibly with a .bin extention.
[06:40] <Hexidigital_> Cornellius:: i retract my statement
[06:40] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> well it shows me the list of dependencies, all i have to do is get them as well?
[06:40] <freakabcd> adrigen, err.. you don't install zip files using dpkg!
[06:41] <krazykit> Hexidigital_: it's a problem especially if you start installing libs.  apps will often work, for now
[06:41] <schwal> anyone know how to exit oem mode?
[06:41] <krazykit> [CC] Impsy|NH: yes, and the -dev headers.
[06:41] <Cornellius> Why is Opera classed in non-free ?
[06:41] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> hmm lol
[06:41] <Cornellius> Isn't Opera free now ?
[06:41] <JerKB> adrigen: if nothing else there's usually a README file
[06:41] <krazykit> Cornellius: because it's not open source
[06:41] <schwal> not open source
[06:41] <pvd> whats a good filing system to use. My friend wants to experiment with speed, Ive heard ReiserFs and XFS were the fastest, but are they stable?
[06:41] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> i could try lol
[06:41] <intelikey> schwal oem mode ?
[06:41] <Cornellius> Ah, ok
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> Cornellius: Some times they work.  That said, it is most definitely not recommended.  Always make sure there isn't an Ubuntu package first.  If not, you can either build from source, or cross your fingers and try the Debian ones.
[06:41] <schwal> oem install via alt. cd
[06:41] <freakabcd> Cornellius, its free as in beer, not free as in speech
[06:41] <Cornellius> Ok
[06:41] <krazykit> pvd: reiserfs is pretty stable, it's mainline.  reiser4 is considered unstable, and i dunno about xfs
[06:42] <Ar2No> how to upgrade from ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 ?
[06:42] <pvd> krazykit, so will you notice any difference in speed ?
[06:42] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> so the basic dependencies for banshee.
[06:42] <thomasM> k so nobody has any clue about njb okay.
[06:42] <krazykit> pvd: only if you work with small files a lot
[06:42] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> do i also need to get the dependencies for the dependencies
[06:42] <JerKB> !upgrade
[06:42] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[06:42] <krazykit> [CC] Impsy|NH: yes
[06:42] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> do i also need to get the dependencies for the dependencies
[06:42] <pvangarde> i have a question: do software packages for debian work fine in ubuntu? say skype is offered for debian (in a deb) file. will that work if i run it on ubuntu
[06:42] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> OmG
[06:42] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> Doesnt the list just never end?
[06:42] <krazykit> [CC] Impsy|NH: nope.
[06:42] <schmity> I <3 _______\
[06:43] <Cornellius> I don't remember on which repository Frostwire was
[06:43] <freakabcd> ubotu, tell pvangarde about skype
[06:43] <deleted> oh, yeah, dapper upgrade is in progress
[06:43] <Cornellius> Nice Limewire alternative by the way.
[06:43] <Flannel> pvangarde: no, they're not binary compatible.
[06:43] <schwal> pvangarde: skype has a ubuntu build
[06:43] <intelikey> pvangarde some will, some wont, some will break things.
[06:43] <meatpuppet> Hello folks
[06:43] <Flannel> !tell pvangarde about skype
[06:43] <krazykit> Cornellius: it's not in a repo.  you can download it from their site.
[06:43] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> lol doesnt matter right now anyways
[06:43] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> my sound isnt working
[06:43] <Hexidigital_> krazykit:: not to go back to the debian/ubuntu thing, but are you aware of any debian users backported into ubuntu repos having problems?
[06:43] <nickrud> [CC] Impsy`AO`OUT, yes it does. But if you just apt-get it from the repos, you don't need to know the dependencies
[06:43] <DaveyJ> damn
[06:43] <DaveyJ> the omen sucked
[06:44] <Hexidigital_> DaveyJ:: that is off topic
[06:44] <Cornellius> As I read, Backdoor = Not fully tested ?
[06:44] <Hexidigital_> DaveyJ:: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:44] <DaveyJ> sorry
[06:44] <Cornellius> DaveyJ: Nowdays horror movies sucks
[06:44] <schwal> anyone have any idea how to exit the oem mode after install?
[06:44] <deleted> is it bad to be running other stuff while apt-get dist-upgrade is running?
[06:44] <freakabcd> who is the guy who said '...can't get out of oem mode' a while back?
[06:44] <Hexidigital_> Cornellius:: backports are not supported
[06:44] <RancidLM> hey all .. sorta off topic.. im interested in setting up a vpn but can any one point me in the right location for tools i should use? im looking for a easy to use gnome gui for the vpn client
[06:44] <freakabcd> oh he..
[06:44] <Cornellius> Poltergeist, Shinning anyone ?
[06:44] <schwal> freakabcd: me
[06:44] <freakabcd> schwal, what the heck do you mean by oem mode?
[06:44] <deleted> like, i dunno, x-chat, gaim and firefox?
[06:44] <paul_> In everyone opinion which is the better player? rhythmbox or banshee?
[06:44] <krazykit> Hexidigital_: you mean debian -> ubuntu?  i've heard of people doing it and going from ubuntu to debian, but they have to do some seriously nasty hacking.  i think there was a supported upgrade path from sarge to the first release of ubuntu though.
[06:44] <intelikey> pvangarde if you like the exitement of not knowing if the system is going to work ok or crash and take everything on your hd with it... use them.  and make a list of what will work...
[06:44] <DaveyJ> now... to get multiple monitors working with xgl :)
[06:44] <AngryElf> "An error has occured" -- well if i can't report a bug, and don't know why not that's a big :(
[06:45] <ic56> !vpn
[06:45] <ubotu> vpn is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[06:45] <ESPOiG> jkernsjr: the error was ..... Internal Error
[06:45] <JerKB> deleted: you should be fine.  might slow it down a bit but that's all.
[06:45] <meatpuppet> I've hit a bit of a problem.  I can install all of Ubuntu 6.06 but when I try to boot it I get GRUB error 17.  I have a 40mb /boot (ext2), a 4 GB swap and a 100gb / (ext3) partition.
[06:45] <schwal> i did an oem install, and you have to do a command line reboot to exit to normal setup
[06:45] <JerKB> I had all kinds of stuff running when I upgraded.
[06:45] <Flannel> freakabcd: oem mode is on the alternate install, for people installing OEM.
[06:45] <deleted> JefkB: cool.  thanks
[06:45] <Hexidigital_> krazykit:: no, one user was in here earlier last week who was running debian with backports to ubuntu repos... he was considering switching to ubuntu
[06:45] <schwal> but i forgot the parameters
[06:45] <DaveyJ> i dont even know if its possible lol
[06:45] <meatpuppet> I tried ReiserFS and the same error occured.  I am using SATA hard drives
[06:45] <paul_> Also another opinion needed. Which is the best all around programmers editor out there?
[06:45] <freakabcd> schwal, parameters for what?
[06:45] <intelikey> schwal command line reboot    init 6
[06:45] <meatpuppet> Has anyone got any suggestions?
[06:45] <jkernsjr> ESPOiG: ask me the question again..been so long i forgot
[06:45] <Ar2No> can somebody help me... I just installed dapper drake into my pc and I cannot access internet.. but I can access network resources. that is weird.. can you help me?
[06:45] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> lol i ask for a cd with software on it on the forums and i get posts on how i can get internet.. lol
[06:46] <Hexidigital_> krazykit:: oh, sorry.. replied before i fully read the last part about sarge
[06:46] <JerKB> Ar2No: System>Administration>Networking
[06:46] <schwal> parameters for the reboot that exits oem mode
[06:46] <Cornellius> Well, I have Ubuntu for whatever and PCBSD for work and firewall.
[06:46] <RancidLM> thnx ic56
[06:46] <Ar2No> JerKB, yes I done that already
[06:46] <nickrud> schwal, I think you need the command oem-config ?
[06:46] <ic56> RancidLM: yw -- hope it's helpful.
[06:46] <freakabcd> schwal, i have no experience with this 'oem mode'
[06:46] <cdubya> JerKB, thanks, that was it.....
[06:46] <JerKB> cdubya: welcome
[06:46] <chris_> krazykit: piracy? huh?
[06:47] <krazykit> Hexidigital_: see, the problem is compilers.  gcc sometimes is not compatible with other versions of itself.  as such, you run into troubles with stuff compiled with different versions.  also, stuff is compiled against different library versions, also causing breakage or unknown crappiness
[06:47] <ESPOiG> jkernsjr: soz... the q was : i tried to copy the folder /usr/share/icons/ on fc5 but i got that error it started copying even wen runnin as root... i also tried command line copy and resetin permissions but it still wont let me copy them?
[06:47] <krazykit> chris_: it was long ago.  forget it
[06:47] <intelikey> schwal also useful as command line reboot      shutdown -t1 -a -r now          or even     halt
[06:47] <Hexidigital_> krazykit:: i see... thanks for explaining :)
[06:47] <krazykit> Hexidigital_: yep :-D
[06:47] <schwal> nickrud: not it
[06:47] <chris_> krazykit: I'm just coming back to irc from playing settlers for 4 hours... some dude was messaging me about dbo somebody. trying to figure it out.
[06:47] <krazykit> Hexidigital_: so in short, using debian repositories/debs is a crapshoot.
[06:47] <schwal> it's not just a reboot, theres more to it
[06:48] <JerKB> Ar2No: what kind of internet service do you have?
[06:48] <Sewage> I already asked in #Kubuntu, no answer. so I want to see if anyone here knows how to :  Configure individual folders in Konqueror,  since Kubuntu apparently removed some features from the normal Konqueror
[06:48] <nickrud> schwal, well, it worked once on an oem install, had to try
[06:48] <jkernsjr> ESPOiG: your trying to copy the whole directory? and to where?
[06:48] <freakabcd> Sewage, why not ask #kde ?
[06:48] <Sewage> I did
[06:48] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+del
[06:48] <freakabcd> Sewage, and what did they say?
[06:48] <morphex> which package should i install to have the service command available?
[06:49] <Sewage> that Kubuntu KDE is modified
[06:49] <Ar2No> internet service ??
[06:49] <Sewage> and Im missing features that they have
[06:49] <ESPOiG> jkernsjr: wereever.. it doesnt matter where i try to copy it it fails everytime
[06:49] <Ar2No> JerKB,  internet service ??
[06:49] <JerKB> Ar2No: dialup?  cable?  DSL?
[06:49] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> yo can anyone give me that link to the ATI help stuff.
[06:49] <freakabcd> Sewage, and what did #kubuntu say regarding the matter?
[06:49] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> !ati
[06:49] <ubotu> ati is, like, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[06:49] <Kwong> hi there, i dont know why apt-cache just shows all info about kernel 2.4
[06:49] <ESPOiG> jkernsjr: and i have tried to copy individiual folder inside it as wel
[06:49] <pvd> is creative xfi supported by dapper by default
[06:49] <Sewage> freakabcd, nothing,   I asked twice, no answer yet
[06:49] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> help.
[06:49] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> i did this command : glxinfo | grep rendering
[06:49] <intelikey> Kwong cause it's not kernel  it's  linux
[06:49] <Sewage> freakabcd,  I figured people in here might install KDE as well
[06:50] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> and it came upw ith.
[06:50] <ic56> chris_: I think DBO's real name is Chris.  Maybe someone mistook you for him.
[06:50] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> i did this command : glxinfo | grep rendering
[06:50] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> and it came upw ith.
[06:50] <schwal> just use easy ubuntu for grafics installs
[06:50] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> direct rendering: Yes
[06:50] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> is this good?
[06:50] <freakabcd> Sewage, then maybe you have to wait a while longer? or maybe ask the kde folk what you have to do for the config thing. and check if it is really missing in your kde
[06:50] <krazykit> pvd: is that the really expensive sound card?  i don't think it's supported yet.
[06:50] <rixth> !file liblame.so
[06:50] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> is it good if it says Direct Rendering: Yes
[06:50] <chris_> ic56: oh. hehe. some guy messaged me asking me not to register my nick.
[06:50] <Ar2No> JerKB, ADSL
[06:50] <Sewage> freakabcd,  Im asking in here also, thx.  and yes , it IS missing something.  I showed them screenshots
[06:50] <pvd> so it wont work in ubuntu your saying?
[06:50] <krazykit> [CC] Impsy|NH: yeah, that's good.
[06:50] <IcemanV9> i installed ubuntu(-desktop). now, i wonder if kubuntu(-desktop) & xubuntu(-desktop) were installed, will i expect any problem?
[06:50] <jkernsjr> ESPOiG: if you become root..unless it is sticky bit set http://www.faqs.org/faqs/hp/hpux-faq/section-70.html
[06:51] <DaveyJ> how do i go about enabling xinerama
[06:51] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> krazykit: do ineed to install any drivers or anything?
[06:51] <chris_> ic56: which is hilarious because this isn't my nick. it's just my backup when i timeout and rejoin automagically.
[06:51] <Flannel> Sewage: you might try posting in the forums, you wont have to deal with dead periods were they're all asleep.
[06:51] <DaveyJ> or panaramix or whatever its called
[06:51] <krazykit> IcemanV9: no, not really
[06:51] <KuLover> Quick question, Im running the 64bit distro.. A lot of software I like is hard to get for 64bit arcatecture. I was thinking about installing 32bit dapper.. Would I experiance much performance loss?
[06:51] <Sewage> Flannel, lol
[06:51] <intelikey> Kwong if you want 2.4  apt-cache search kernel   if you want 2.6   apt-cache search linux
[06:51] <krazykit> [CC] Impsy|NH: if you're trying to get 3d accel going, it sounds like it's already there
[06:51] <Kwong> intelikey, i got it
[06:51] <Sewage> Flannel,  I wasnt impatient.  Just figured I'd ask here while waiting
[06:51] <intelikey> k
[06:51] <JerKB> Ar2No: Sorry, I've not used DSL before, not sure of specifics for ubuntu.  perhaps someone else here might know though.
[06:51] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> ahh asweet.
[06:51] <freakabcd> Sewage, if they say the features are missing, then maybe file a bug report or post to the dev list, etc.
[06:51] <freakabcd> i don't think theres anything else you can do
[06:51] <thomasM> KuLover definitely not, especially on a preconfigured distro like ubuntu.
[06:51] <Sewage> freakabcd, ok ty
[06:51] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> krazykit: thought i would have problems, i have ATI
[06:51] <Kwong> intelikey, thank you
[06:51] <intelikey> np
[06:52] <blaze> how can i get my kernel source in /usr/src/linux-2.6...
[06:52] <KuLover> Thanks so much thomasM! 32bit it is then.
[06:52] <blaze> oh.. i have it already.. sry
[06:52] <danfg> in xkb, where are dead keys defined?
[06:53] <danfg> i mean, the behavior of dead keys
[06:53] <krazykit> danfg: dead how?  like media keys?
[06:53] <eigenlambda> dead like compose key?
[06:53] <intelikey> danfg if you find an input expert i want the next question.....  :)
[06:54] <JerKB> deadkeys like accent marks?
[06:54] <adrigen> JerKB: sorry I missed your response if you gave one, but do you know what Im doing wrong by getting this:sudo dpkg -i Home/downloaded/ConsultComm-3.1.1.zip
[06:54] <adrigen> dpkg: error processing Home/downloaded/ConsultComm-3.1.1.zip (--install):
[06:54] <adrigen>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[06:54] <adrigen> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:54] <adrigen>  Home/downloaded/ConsultComm-3.1.1.zip
[06:54] <danfg> eigenlambda: yeah, compose keys
[06:54] <mnrdknn> my sound card isnt working.. what should I do}
[06:54] <JerKB> adrigen: a zip file isn't installed with dpkg, only .debs
[06:54] <freakabcd> adrigen, i told you earlier: you _cannot_ install .zip files using dpkg!
[06:55] <JerKB> adrigen: unzip the file and look for a README or INSTALL that will probably tell you what you need to do.
[06:55] <adrigen> oh... sorry i missed it.
[06:55] <danfg> eigenlambda: i'm assuming things like dead_cedilla and dead_acute are defined somewhere
[06:55] <freakabcd> adrigen, no problem. JerKB just gave you good advice about how to proceed
[06:55] <intelikey> hmmm x starts.  then x exits...  must not be any default wm defined
[06:56] <asdx> will we have new wifi stack, initng, xorg with aiglx for the next version of ubuntu?
[06:56] <JerKB> adrigen:  or check with the program's website to see if there are any installations instructions.
[06:56] <freakabcd> asdx, wait for #ubuntu+1 to open and ask then :)
[06:56] <danfg> JerKB: yeah, keys for accentuation
[06:56] <Xyc0> What are the system reqs for the newest ubuntu distro?
[06:56] <asdx> heh
[06:57] <asdx> Xyc0: I hope 3d windowing system with a kickass eyecandy for gnome, kde 4 in kubuntu, initng, and a new wifi stack
[06:57] <mnrdknn> how can i install my sound card?
[06:57] <adrigen> JerKB: frustratingly the readme/faq doesnt have installation instructions nor does the website
[06:57] <freakabcd> asdx, wifi stack: no clue, initng: i have no idea why its not here in dapper!!, xorg/aiglx/compiz: its already here
[06:57] <intelikey> Xyc0 80486 or higher 32m ram 400m hdd    :)
[06:57] <ic56> does anyone have filesystems other than cdrom and floppy mounted under /media ? can you look something up for me?
[06:57] <nickrud> Xyc0, 800mhz & 512 memor, I can't go any lower
[06:57] <Xyc0> intelikey: where can I look that up in the future?
[06:57] <h4v0k> hello all
[06:58] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> lol i could run it on my 350mhz
[06:58] <asdx> aiglx should replace xgl
[06:58] <krazykit> asdx: wifi stack?  maybe. initng?  doubt it.  aiglx?  probably not.  xgl/compiz by default?  unlikely.  kde4?  dpends on when it releases.
[06:58] <intelikey> right here.
[06:58] <h4v0k> total newb here
[06:58] <asdx> krazykit: why aiglx probably not?
[06:58] <JerKB> adrigen: /msg me a link to the website where you got the program and I'll take a look
[06:58] <ic56> intelikey: you talkin to me?
[06:58] <asdx> krazykit: is what everyone will be using
[06:58] <h4v0k> but finally got my ubuntu workin  \:D/
[06:58] <freakabcd> krazykit, aiglx+compiz+xorg is _working_ already on dapper
[06:58] <intelikey> Xyc0 the 32m ram the installer wont load in that.  it takes 64m
[06:59] <ic56> !justask
[06:59] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[06:59] <krazykit> asdx: as far as i know neither ati nor nvidia have released aiglx compatible drivers, unless i'm thinking of egl or something
[06:59] <freakabcd> krazykit, and why the hell not initng?
[06:59] <ElBrujo> hello
[06:59] <intelikey> ic56 no sorry.   i don't even have /media
[06:59] <krazykit> freakabcd: working, but not anywhere near stable.
[06:59] <freakabcd> cos the debian folk are not doing it?
[06:59] <freakabcd> thats not reason!
[06:59] <asdx> krazykit: nvidia will release their next driver with aiglx support
[06:59] <nickrud> Hey, ElBrujo
[06:59] <pvangarde> skype worked fine, why did i have to change the sound file? does anyone know?
[06:59] <intelikey> ic56 what are you interested in anyway ?
[06:59] <asdx> krazykit: and aiglx is on xorg already
[06:59] <asdx> krazykit: merged or something
[06:59] <Flannel> freakabcd: working, not supported.  And, because it came out too late in the development cycle to be added to dapper.
[06:59] <ElBrujo> somebody  know about xgl and compiz?
[06:59] <freakabcd> krazykit, what do you define as stable? aiglx+compiz+xorg that runs on an i810 for weeks without problems?
[07:00] <intelikey> ic56 i might be able to mount something
[07:00] <Flannel> freakabcd: it might be stable, it's not SUPPORTED
[07:00] <ElBrujo> i can't do compiz work
[07:00] <ic56> intelikey: what does file browser display under "Computer"?  Do the extra filesystems show up as additional icons?
[07:00] <freakabcd> err.. that was to krazykit. but you gave a reasonable answer Flannel
[07:01] <freakabcd> krazykit, and why _not_ initng?
[07:01] <intelikey> ic56 lol oh sorry i asked  i 86'd gnome 10 minutes after i got it installed.
[07:01] <adrigen> JerKB: there aren't any instructions but there are alternative downloads: an "RPM" and an "IzPack Installer" should I go for one of those?
[07:01] <asdx> initng kick the ass of sysvinit, sysvinit is old and deprecated
[07:01] <ic56> intelikey: never mind, I can test it myself.  Won't take long.
[07:01] <krazykit> freakabcd: i've not been following development all that closely, but has it hit beta yet?  i only recall it being pre-alpha last i checked
[07:01] <Xyc0> How much hard drive space should I give ubuntu?  I know I need atleast 1024mb for SWAP
[07:01] <asdx> and slow
[07:01] <Cornellius> Do we need an anti-virus on Linux ?
[07:01] <Flannel> Xyc0: you don't /need/ a gig for swap.
[07:02] <krazykit> Cornellius: not really
[07:02] <Xyc0> Flannel: really?
[07:02] <Anonycat> I have a wireless PC card in a laptop, and ndiswrapper installed, but the only interface that shows up is ppp0.  How can I add a wlan0 interface to the list that appears in network-admin?
[07:02] <nickrud> Xyc0, 3gb at least for comfort
[07:02] <Flannel> nickrud: what the hell?
[07:02] <intelikey> Xyc0 about 4g should be enough    but why do you need 1g of swap ?
[07:02] <JerKB> adrigen: I'm looking at the website now.  You can try the .rpm but you'll have to use alien to convert it to a .deb
[07:02] <nickrud> erm, I meant for the install, not swap
[07:02] <Flannel> nickrud: oh, HD, not swap.  heh. hahaha.
[07:02] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> Xyc0, how much room do you have?
[07:02] <Xyc0> I don't know, don't you put a minimum total system ram
[07:03] <Flannel> Xyc0: right.  swap is a good thing to have, but not required.  Recommended is 2xRAM, if you can spare it.  but, over 1GB isn't necessary for most people
[07:03] <Xyc0> I have a lot of space, but I have all my media on its own parition
[07:03] <ElBrujo> somebody whit compiz?
[07:03] <ThePub> how would I get X to pass through sound from a line-in port?  I have my VCR hooked up there and want to just 'listen'
[07:03] <intelikey> Xyc0 i have ran a box with 64m ram and no swap with ubuntu hoary for a year now.
[07:03] <ic56> intelikey: aha.  The answer is yes.  Places> Computer.  This is why they like mount windows partitions under /media -- the newbies look for it there.
[07:03] <adrigen> JerKB: is this pretty standard operation for installing stuff on linux?
[07:03] <Xyc0> I just want to do a full install with what ever extra programs I want to play with to get to work
[07:04] <asdx> I think GNOME should have it's own composite manager for 2.16 and ubuntu should have that and Xorg/AIGLX enabled, for play and catch up Vista
[07:04] <intelikey> ic56 yes.   ubuntu uses /media for /mnt  by default
[07:04] <DaveyJ> if i have one graphics board with two heads (GeForce FX 5500) .. how do i differenciate between the two? is it 1:0:1 or what?
[07:04] <asdx> (also initng, and a new wifi stack for the drivers that dosn't work(
[07:04] <krazykit> asdx: i think gnome should dump metacity.
[07:04] <JerKB> adrigen: no, just some programs that aren't widely used aren't packaged in distros.
[07:04] <asdx> ubuntu now looks depressed
[07:05] <nickrud> krazykit, for what? I'm open.
[07:05] <Flannel> Xyc0: how muh ram do you have?
[07:05] <asdx> err, gnome
[07:05] <Xyc0> Flannel:  1024 MB
[07:05] <schwal> so does anyone know about exiting the oem mode after an oem install?
[07:05] <freakabcd> nickrud, whatever happened to the good 'ol sawmill->sawfish?
[07:05] <Flannel> Xyc0: you'll be fine with another gig of swap then, no reason to go two.
[07:05] <freakabcd> nickrud, metacity still doesn;t have proper window snapping
[07:05] <krazykit> nickrud: IMO, metacity is clunky, and doesn't have some of the features i'd expect in a good WM.  i'd say enlightenment again.
[07:05] <intelikey> Xyc0 4-6 gig and if you make a seperate /home partition of sufficient size for all your other files....  music vidios and so on  then you should be fine.
[07:05] <nickrud> freakabcd, it got to hard to use, so I quit. I haven't tried lately
[07:06] <ic56> intelikey: careful -- /mnt is intended for mounting a single filesystem.  /media is meant to contain multiple mountpoints.  Not the same thing.  However, I understood /media to be intended for removable media.  I would normally recommend /local for mountpoints of fixed disks on the localhost
[07:06] <freakabcd> which is there on almost _all_ window managers
[07:06] <Flannel> Guys, not to kill this conversation, it's healthy, but, it belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic.  Please move there ;)
[07:06] <adrigen> can anyone recommend a project management program???
[07:06] <Xyc0> Ok, thanks gang, Ill try 5 gig to be safe, and use whatever swap ubuntu uses automaticaly
[07:06] <freakabcd> except the crappy (experimental) ones written to test one particular feature, etc.
[07:06] <ThePub> metacity is just supposed to get out of the way and let the environment do the work :)
[07:06] <asdx> I think that will be nice if Gaim supports audio and video conference too
[07:07] <freakabcd> seriously, gnome has changed too many things too many times
[07:07] <jorgp_laptop> is there an edgy repos yet?
[07:07] <asdx> and everything out of the box
[07:07] <krazykit> jorgp_laptop: no
[07:07] <Flannel> jorgp_laptop: not yet.
[07:07] <zer0> Hi all
[07:07] <freakabcd> jorgp_laptop, do you see #ubuntu+1 open?
[07:07] <intelikey> ic56 in distros im more accustom to /mnt is where all the mount points normally are but ubuntu uses /media in the same way.
[07:07] <ThePub> afterall, you start adding more 'capabilities' into an X server and you'll wind right back into TWM days :p
[07:07] <krazykit> asdx: give microsoft a ring and tell them to "open up" ;-)
[07:07] <zer0> does anyone know anything about gnome-failsafe mode on ubuntu (dapper)?
[07:07] <ic56> intelikey: I see.
[07:07] <RootsLINUX> Is anyone else having problems upgrading from breezy to dapper? I run update-manager and it shows that dapper is available so I click upgrade, it downloads two files, and then update-manager seg faults! :(
[07:07] <jorgp_laptop> thanks
[07:07] <icky> anyone know how to change the resolution of the beginning welcoming screen? it is too high
[07:07] <asdx> krazykit: lol
[07:08] <RootsLINUX> I haven't found anyone else having this problem via google/ubuntu site
[07:08] <intelikey> ic56 i use /disks/*  for mount points.  but it's a matter of preferance.
[07:08] <Flannel> zer0: need to get into it? or what?
[07:08] <asdx> nah, ubuntu 6 it's nice, it's great indeed
[07:08] <ic56> intelikey: what do you use for remote filesystems, like NFS?
[07:08] <disinterested_pe> so are there any advantages/ disadvantages to useing alien?
[07:09] <Shaezsche> so for ubuntu is the ONLY linux distro that has recognized my volume knob
[07:09] <Hobbsee> freakabcd: actually, i think it's opening pretty soon...
[07:09] <zer0> after I login with gdm, it fails, yet when I log in with gnome-failsafe mode it works fine, after picking the brains of the guys over in #gnome for a while, I found out gnome - failsafe mode is distro specific thing that ubuntu put in there as a backup in case the main config files got corrupt
[07:09] <Flannel> disinterested_pe: advantages: you technically can use rpm, disadvantages: well, it's akin to installing from source.  you lose benefits of apt.
[07:09] <JerKB> disinterested_pe: alien doesn't calculate dependancies, i think.
[07:09] <schwal> who do i ask about the freaking oem mode?
[07:09] <icky> how would i reinstall gnome
[07:09] <icky> from scratch?
[07:09] <icky> i am using xfc and my gnome is messed up
[07:09] <intelikey> ic56 only dialup here friend...
[07:09] <zer0> so basically I wanted to know how I can either restore the config files or find out what failsafe mode does differently
[07:09] <Flannel> schwal: try asking at the forums, someone there might be able to answer you
[07:09] <schwal> k
[07:10] <Flannel> zer0: failsafe mode doesn't load any user config stuff/startup things or anything like that.
[07:10] <zer0> hey icky, welcome to my nightmare
[07:10] <disinterested_pe> i see it removed 120 files
[07:10] <zer0> Flannel, what isn't it loading specifically
[07:10] <ic56> intelikey: and only one computer, apparently :-)
[07:10] <intelikey> ic56 i'm what might be called network illiterate.
[07:10] <zer0> my gnome works PERFECT in failsafe mode, all my customizations, programs I set to run at startup, etc
[07:10] <Flannel> zer0: startup files, user config, anything in your home.
[07:11] <adrigen> nope no project managment solutions for linux??
[07:11] <intelikey> ic56 no i have 5 or 6 of them.
[07:11] <JerKB> zer0: I had a problem getting gnome to work too, I had old files in my home directory and had to go in and delete them.
[07:11] <whitynz> hmm so by mistake I formatted a Ext3 partition to Fat32.. stupid yes, and I've spent all day trying to recover the data off it but haven't been able to. Can anyone suggest how I would do this?
[07:11] <ic56> intelikey: it's peaceful existence :-)
[07:11] <Flannel> zer0: more specifically than that, I have no idea ;)
[07:11] <icky> anyone know how to change the resolution of the beginning welcoming screen
[07:11] <zer0> heres the thing, I created a new user, test, and test has the same exact problem
[07:11] <Flannel> whitynz: you can't really.
[07:11] <icky> its set too high
[07:11] <RootsLINUX> okay so update-manager is downloading the update helper tool for moving to dapper from breezy, and after it downloads it the box for the update tool pops up briefly and then disappears with a seg fault. wtf
[07:11] <Flannel> icky: it's GDM.  You're talking about the login screen, right?
[07:11] <freakabcd> whitynz, try taking it to some recovery service guy
[07:11] <whitynz> Flannel: no possible way at all =/?
[07:11] <freakabcd> other than that, not much you can do
[07:12] <icky> Flannel, yeah
[07:12] <Flannel> whitynz: not as far as I know.
[07:12] <whitynz> freakabcd: I live in a small town =/
[07:12] <whitynz> bugger
[07:12] <icky> Flannel, the login screen has the resolution too high
[07:12] <Flannel> icky: GDM, at least you can be specific in asking about it from now on.
[07:12] <Cornellius> Yay for gEDA and Eagle.
[07:12] <krazykit> whitynz: it also costs a ton of money.
[07:12] <RootsLINUX> The freaking update tool seg faults, why is this only happening to me?
[07:12] <eigenlambda> you never want to touch swap anyway
[07:12] <icky> oh :)
[07:12] <icky> thanks
[07:12] <eigenlambda> and with a full gig of ram, you'd have to use kde apps to even come close
[07:12] <freakabcd> whitynz, not sure. whereabouts are you?
[07:12] <eigenlambda> hehe
[07:12] <Cornellius> I'm studying in Electronics so EDAs are important :)
[07:12] <whitynz> krazykit: alright then, looks like I'm starting my assignment again
[07:13] <whitynz> freakabcd: Timaru, NZ
[07:13] <whitynz> Thanks anyhow
[07:13] <freakabcd> ah timaru, ok.
[07:13] <intelikey> ic56 if you had dialup  would you go to the effort of networking boxes like   p100mmx 64m ram 610m hdd    and others like that ?
[07:13] <freakabcd> Cornellius, whats eagle?
[07:13] <zer0> whaley, you have literally overwritten the 1's and 0's at the start of the disk with a new filesystem, the spot that tell the fs where the files are, you need an electron microscope, expensive proprietary hardware and software, a sharp eye and an even sharper wit to recover from that afaik
[07:13] <varsendaggr> hey anyone know about cars please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:13] <zer0> *whitynz
[07:13] <nekostar> !nvidia
[07:13] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[07:13] <Cornellius> freakabcd: App for creating Electronic Schematics and PCBs
[07:14] <freakabcd> Cornellius, err.. does it generate netlists ready for simulation?
[07:14] <zer0> so no one can think of anything that failsafe mode does differently from normal startup that wouldn't be specific to my home directory?
[07:14] <ic56> intelikey: I'm IRCing you from p200mmx 64M RAM.
[07:14] <freakabcd> or just crappy drawing tool like dia?
[07:14] <Utopiate> what's a good terminal editor?
[07:14] <zer0> vi?
[07:14] <intelikey> eigenlambda i use kde on a box with 64m ram and no swap   what you mean "<eigenlambda> and with a full gig of ram, you'd have to use kde apps to even come close" ???
[07:15] <Flannel> Utopiate: vim, nano, emacs
[07:15] <ic56> intelikey: though that box doesn't run Ubuntu :-)
[07:15] <freakabcd> Utopiate, vim, emacs, nano, pico, etc.
[07:15] <Cornellius> freakabcd: That I dunno. I haven't explored it enough.
[07:15] <Utopiate> wow!
[07:15] <Hexidigital_> Utopiate:: i like nano
[07:15] <Utopiate> never gotten this kinda response in any other room!
[07:15] <freakabcd> zer0, i hate vi, thats why i use vim
[07:15] <ic56> Utopiate: define "good" editor.  Each is good -- but for a different thing.
[07:15] <zer0> it has been there for a 100 years, will be there for a 100 more, and it's on any unix I can imagine running
[07:15] <Flannel> nano is the most newperson friendly.  no need to learn key commands, they're all listed.  It's a plain editor though, nothing fancy
[07:15] <krazykit> Utopiate: nano is easy, and emacs vs vi is an ongoing battle
[07:16] <eigenlambda> intelikey: no you don't.  ubuntu detected that you were trying to run kde without enough memory and transparently gave you xfce with a kde theme instead
[07:16] <icky> anyone know how i could reinstall gnome?
[07:16] <icky> my gnome is messed up
[07:16] <zer0> vi, vim same thing really, if you can manage your way around one you can manage your way around the other
[07:16] <eigenlambda> ;)
[07:16] <freakabcd> zer0, not if you _use_ some features that vim has
[07:16] <krazykit> icky: i doubt it's something reinstalling can take care of.  you're better off removing the directories in your home folder that have to do with gnome
[07:16] <freakabcd> and you have taken them for granted
[07:16] <ic56> zer0: vi is less than 30 years old.  Heck, electronic computers have only existed for 60 years.
[07:16] <intelikey> eigenlambda hehhe yeah rightr.
[07:16] <freakabcd> and realise that vi is the dinosaur!
[07:16] <zer0> ic56, thanx for clearing that up
[07:16] <Utopiate> weird...
[07:17] <ic56> zer0: my pleasure! ;-)
[07:17] <Utopiate> for some reason when I switch to the nvidia-glx driver in xorg.conf it breaks X
[07:17] <icky> i keep getting this permissions problem in .dmrc and it says that it needs 644
[07:17] <zer0> so anyways, I am considering doing a `apt-get -y remove gnome && apt-get -y install gnome`, anyone wanna tell me why this is probably a really stupid idea (or not) I have only been using a debian based distro for about a week now
[07:18] <krazykit> zer0: it's a bad idea.  why would you do that?
[07:18] <czer323> Utopiate> when i installed nvidia, i had to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to match teh new driver... dunno if tat's the same issue you're having.
[07:18] <Flannel> zer0: you want a --purge in there too.
[07:18] <Flannel> zer0: to remove configuration files.
[07:18] <Eleaf> rm -rf /elk/
[07:18] <zer0> freakabcd, btw, my point was, if you know how to use vim on current linux, and someone asked you to sit down on a circa 89 at&t sysV system and edit a file you can do it
[07:18] <Utopiate> czer323: When I alter that file from "nv" to "nvidia" it breaks X
[07:18] <Flannel> zer0: as for the intelligence of the command... well, that's debatable.
[07:18] <nickrud> zer0, mainly because gnome is a meta-package, and not the right meta-package for ubuntu
[07:18] <Eleaf> Because I don't know if that should be there.
[07:18] <intelikey> icky ls -l .dmrc
[07:18] <freakabcd> zer0, that was not my point
[07:19] <czer323> Utopiate> Did you install teh nvidia drivers then?  I used easyubuntu to take care of that part for me.
[07:19] <zer0> Flannel, so what should I do then to get gnome fixed?
[07:19] <zer0> just add --purge to my install command line?
[07:19] <Utopiate> yeah... I "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[07:19] <james_xxx>  i have an old laptop with a non-functioning CD-ROM drive.... would anyone know how i might install k/x/ubuntu without the CD-ROM drive?
[07:19] <Flannel> zer0: to the uninstall, but pay attention to what nickrud said
[07:20] <intelikey> icky ?
[07:20] <krazykit> james_xxx: boot from a floppy disk and use debootstrap, i should think
[07:20] <czer323> Utopiate> Sorry then. ;)  That's the extent of my experience.  I'm still a bit of a newb.
[07:20] <zer0> ok, nickrud I don't know exactly what that means
[07:20] <Utopiate> heh
[07:20] <krazykit> james_xxx: though depending on the age, do you really want ubuntu?
[07:20] <Utopiate> it's all good
[07:20] <icky> oops
[07:20] <zer0> @ not the right meta-package
[07:20] <james_xxx> Krhow would i do that?
[07:20] <Utopiate> thanks czer323
[07:20] <intelikey> icky what did it say ?
[07:20] <czer323> utopiate> If you can at least get a log file and pastebin it, I know it'll help the other guys.
[07:20] <icky> intelikey, sorry.. so i didi that and it says rw--r--r
[07:20] <icky> -rw-r--r--
[07:21] <intelikey> that is 644
[07:21] <icky> yeah
[07:21] <icky> its wierd huh?
[07:21] <nickrud> zer0, the gnome package you see is a holdover from debian; ubuntu uses ubuntu-desktop to install the equivalent system
[07:21] <james_xxx> krazykit: well, it has a P$ chip and runs at 2.2 Ghz
[07:21] <intelikey> yes one of those misleading errors
[07:21] <james_xxx> P4*
[07:21] <intelikey> icky mind pastebin'ing your .dmrc ?
[07:21] <icky> k
[07:21] <krazykit> james_xxx: oh, i don't know the specifics :-P.  it'd involve booting from the floppy and i don't know from there.  or you could netboot.  or find a usb/pcmcia cd drive, or swap out the hard drive, install, swap back in
[07:21] <czer323> james_xxx> P money! processor ;)
[07:21] <zer0> gnome is fubar across the sys affecting mutiple user account do to what I believe is some config issue, someone please gimme the command I wanna run, at least something to try to start with to scrap and start over with gnome and it's config files
[07:21] <intelikey> !paste
[07:21] <Hexidigital_> Utopiate:: dont leave... i'm looking around to fix your problem
[07:21] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[07:22] <d00by> hey i am on ubuntu 5.04 and i want to upgrade to dapper. TELL ME HOW ;)
[07:22] <icky> what if i deleted it? intelikey
[07:22] <zer0> like I said, this is week 1 for me with debian, at least since I was in collage
[07:22] <intelikey> try it icky
[07:22] <intelikey> gdm should make another one.
[07:22] <Utopiate> thanks Hexdigital_.  "links" only views so much on webpages...
[07:23] <sn00p>  what is the flash plugin for mozilla in dapper drake?
[07:23] <nickrud> zer0, if you do do apt-cache depends gnome (list what packages are installed by the gnome meta-package) and compare that to apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop, you'll see two ways of using debian package management
[07:23] <d00by> hey, I need to update to dapper from 5.04 without cd, any help?
[07:23] <Flannel> !tell d00by about upgrade
[07:24] <james_xxx> krazykit: i have an external USB hard drive...... but i dunno if i could get it to boot from that
[07:24] <icky> i upgraded from warty to dapper
[07:24] <icky> is there anything better then dapper
[07:24] <Flannel> icky: don't do that.
[07:24] <d00by> flannel, i feel like such a noob when the bot knows my answers :(
[07:24] <icky> not straight
[07:24] <d00by> thanks
[07:24] <bruenig> for flash in mozilla do sudo flashplugin-nonfree and then sudo update-flashplugin
[07:24] <Flannel> d00by: heh, no reason to ;)
[07:24] <Hexidigital_> Utopiate:: in terminal, type -  lspci | grep nVidia
[07:24] <Flannel> icky: ah, ok.  and no, nothing more new than dapper.  dapper is only five days old
[07:24] <zer0> ok, I see it, but I am still not sure what I should do nickrud
[07:25] <Utopiate> lspci | grep nVidia
[07:25] <Utopiate> ok
[07:25] <nickrud> zer0, depends on what you're trying to fix, and I couldn't look up that far
[07:25] <Hexidigital_> Utopiate:: let me know if that produces output of some sort
[07:25] <d00by> flannel, ok i did the update-manager -d, but it brought me to the same update manager screen I was at before, with no upgrade to dapper button like 5.10 had
[07:25] <Anonycat> I have a wireless PC card in a laptop, and ndiswrapper installed, but the only interface that shows up is ppp0.  How can I add a wlan0 interface to the list that appears in network-admin?
[07:26] <krazykit> james_xxx: hm.  well, if you were to install to that external hard drive, copy all the files to the new one, and write grub or lilo to the mbr, you'd be set
[07:26] <sn00p> bruenig its not in there
[07:26] <bruenig> snoop, have you enabled the extra repositories?
[07:26] <Utopiate> Hexdigital_: nVidia Corp. NV11 (GeForce MX / MX 2
[07:26] <StarScream> hey guys, just installed one of those dapper lamp systems and its working pretty well but i'd quite like to set up a few vhosts with ftp access to them and I was wondering what permissions i should use on the dir
[07:26] <Flannel> d00by: you can't go from 5.04 to 6.06, you have to upgrade to 5.10 first.
[07:26] <sn00p> bruenig yes
[07:26] <ic56> What's the proper name to use for the GUI panel that contains "applications places system" etc?
[07:26] <Flannel> d00by: there's a link at the top of the wiki page, about how to upgrade to Breezy
[07:27] <Hexidigital_> Utopiate:: ok... type this..   sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:27] <czer323> D00by> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  I think this is what you want.
[07:27] <StarScream> i want apache to read and  possibly write, and i want ftp accounts to read and write also
[07:27] <Matthewv> ic56, the whole panel or just the menu part?
[07:27] <Utopiate> command not found
[07:27] <Utopiate> Hexdigital_command not found
[07:27] <krazykit> Hexidigital_: then fix it
[07:27] <ic56> Matthewv: not sure which one I should use in my docs.  Tell me both.
[07:27] <Hexidigital_> krazykit:: trying to find the updated info
[07:27] <Hexidigital_> Utopiate:: ^^
[07:27] <zer0> nickrud, so what your saying is i could use apt get to remove and re-install either gnome or ubuntu-desktop, which are both going to affect different config files and binaries ? I think>
[07:28] <bruenig> snoop, have you tried automatix?
[07:28] <zer0> *think?
[07:28] <Madpilot> Hexidigital_, the Ubuntu wiki's Nvidia page?
[07:28] <d00by> flannel, czer323, oh ok thanks, will do
[07:28] <Hexidigital_> Madpilot:: yes
[07:28] <Madpilot> bruenig, please don't recommend that here
[07:28] <bruenig> ok
[07:28] <nickrud> zer0, you ever use aptitude?
[07:28] <zer0> no
[07:28] <czer323> !automatix
[07:28] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[07:28] <czer323> !Easyubuntu
[07:28] <ubotu> I heard easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[07:28] <Hexidigital_> Madpilot:: it is missing the sudo nvidia-config-enable command (or whatever the command is) trying to find the page now
[07:29] <sn00p> bruenig,  I have nonfree
[07:29] <Madpilot> Hexidigital_, please update it, or join #ubuntu-doc and mention it there
[07:29] <Hexidigital_> Madpilot:: will do
[07:29] <Matthewv> ic56, i believe the whole panel is just a gnome panel... same for the bottom panel, or any other panel you add.. the panel contains other items, such as the notification area, desktop switcher, and of course, the part you wanted to know about, the menu bar
[07:29] <Mempf> why is automatix so "dangerous"?
[07:30] <czer323> Can anyone suggest a good IRC client with a graphical interface, but more flexible?  xchat just isn't cutting it for me.
[07:30] <bruenig> snoop, if you have installed the flashplugin-nonfree package, then just do sudo update-flashplugin
[07:30] <ic56> Matthewv: how do I distinguish between the two panels?  is "gnome" vs "bottom" panel sufficient, given that you can easily move them around?
[07:30] <nickrud> zer0, no. The only way I know of to completely remove gnome (and then reinstall it) is to use debfoster.
[07:30] <Matthewv> ic56, they are both identical panels, just containing different sets of items...
[07:30] <bruenig> snoop, when you do that, there will be no output, but the plugin will be installed
[07:31] <Utopiate> Hrmm... switching back to the "NV" driver
[07:31] <nickrud> zer0, but personally I'd reinstall rather than use debfoster
[07:31] <Matthewv> ic56, so for all practical purposes, on a default install they are just the top and bottom panels :)
[07:31] <MTecknology> !shockwave
[07:31] <ubotu> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!
[07:31] <MTecknology> :'(
[07:31] <sn00p> bruenig, sudo flashplugin-nonfree
[07:31] <ic56> Matthewv: aaah. I see. BTW, "notification area"? where? what shows up in it?
[07:31] <zer0> dammit, I will bbian
[07:31] <zer0> *bbiab
[07:32] <michener> this may be the wrong place to ask, but who can I talk to about a custom large shipment of ubuntu CDs?
[07:32] <sn00p> bruenig,  it says it cant find the packagee
[07:32] <ic56> Matthewv: the top panel is the one containing the menubar by default right?  I've moved things around and don't remember.
[07:32] <Flannel> ic56: right. top right.
[07:32] <bruenig> do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:32] <sn00p> ok,
[07:32] <Matthewv> ic56, in default install the top one contains menu yes... the notification area is the part of the panel that, on a defaul install, has the colume control
[07:33] <Matthewv> ic56, and may contain notification things like a gaim icon if your running gaim, or update notification etc.
[07:33] <sn00p>     bruenig  then what
[07:34] <Hexidigital_> have a good night everybody
[07:34] <vinboy> hi everybuddy
[07:34] <bruenig> any line that is not text and comments but looks like this (deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted), delete the # from in front of it, not just that source i used as an example but anything similar to that
[07:34] <bruenig> then save it and try those other commands again
[07:34] <ic56> Cool!  Ok, so would "top panel> Places> Computer" be a reasonably universally inteligible description?
[07:35] <czer323> !shipit
[07:35] <ubotu> For free ubuntu CDs visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ . For kubuntu CDs visit http://shipit.kubuntu.org . For edubuntu CDs - http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[07:36] <cdubya> !DMA
[07:36] <kakalto> how can I edit my boot-up stuff from the console?
[07:36] <michener> yes, i visited that, and the FAQ said that "custom shipments" have yet to be added to the request form
[07:36] <bruenig> kakalto, what do you mean by boot up stuff
[07:36] <michener> who can i contact about such a thing in the meantime?
[07:36] <kakalto> bruenig: stuff that starts on startup
[07:36] <Flannel> michener: what you looking for?
[07:36] <Flannel> michener: send them an email. um, should be on the page
[07:36] <bruenig> like drives?
[07:37] <michener> alright
[07:37] <ic56> Matthewv: or might "GNOME menu bar> Places> Computer" be a better choice of wording?
[07:38] <kakalto> bruenig: like, "ifrename" shows an error, but is unneeded... I don't think it even exists anymore
[07:38] <Matthewv> ic56, usually i just refer to that as Places --> Computer
[07:38] <kakalto> bruenig: so, I want to remove it from the startup runlevel or whatever
[07:38] <Matthewv> but thats me... what you're saying would probably be fine... most people get the gist
[07:39] <kakalto> bruenig: I tried using "bum", but it wouldn't let me remove it from the runlevel 'S'
[07:39] <ic56> Anyone else wanna weigh in on this?  Writing documentation.  Do I say "GNOME menu bar> Places> Computer", or "top panel> Places> Computer", or just "Places> Computer"?
[07:39] <axion`> how do I make the Terminal transparent?
[07:40] <nekostar> hey
[07:40] <VoX> ic56: Gnome menu bar
[07:40] <nekostar> do yall recommend pla or cypher for dapper ?
[07:40] <VoX> ic56: the panel is not always on the top
[07:40] <michener> I'd argue Places>Computer, as "places" is on the screen at all times
[07:40] <Matthewv> axion`, only fake transparency is supported.. hang on
[07:40] <michener> it's not "menu bar>Start>programs" is it?
[07:40] <axion`> fake or not, i just want to see through it
[07:40] <czer323> michener> i've found a link here you might be interested in about the cds. http://www.linuxcentral.com
[07:41] <bruenig> kakalto, i am not sure how to do it from the command line and i am not sure i know how to do what you are asking, the closest thing i know is configuring startup programs at System>Preferences>Sessions
[07:41] <Matthewv> axion`, go to Edit --> Profiles...
[07:41] <czer323> michener> it's paid for though... :-
[07:41] <Bung> anyone know how to /ctcp in gaim?
[07:41] <axion`> k
[07:41] <blaze> hey, can somebody help me with installing viafb to my kernel?
[07:42] <Matthewv> axion`, either create new or edit existing and change Effects --> Transparency
[07:42] <kakalto> bruenig: I have used the app before... I just can't remember what it's called. it's completely independant of GUI. not sessions, the actual _bootup_ stuff.
[07:42] <michener> thanks, and while that may work, I sorta need a lot of them
[07:42] <DaveyJ> is it possible to have multiple monitors using xgl?
[07:42] <axion`> hmm, so it only goes transparent and shows the desktop behind it?
[07:42] <bruenig> no clue
[07:42] <nickrud> ic56, you should ask that on #ubuntu-doc
[07:42] <michener> for good cause -- I'm the president of the UC Berkeley Comptuer Science Undergrad Assoc.
[07:42] <kakalto> bruenig: thanks anyway :)
[07:43] <ic56> Re: panel documenting question: Thank you Flannel, VoX, nickrud, and especially Matthewv for taking the time...
[07:43] <michener> and we're going to have events and such
[07:43] <Matthewv> ic56, no probs at all
[07:43] <Matthewv> axion`, that work?
[07:43] <axion`> yeah, but it only shows the desktop behind it, it cuts through the other windows
[07:43] <Flannel> michener: send them an email, they're used to it for large orders.  Or at least, people have done it ;)
[07:44] <Madpilot> ic56, in the official docs we've just said "choose Applications->Foo->Bar" and similar
[07:44] <Flannel> michener: that is, the shipit people.  the site isdown, but the email addy is on it, once it comes back
[07:44] <Matthewv> axion`, yeah, thats called fake transparency, i don't think gnome-terminal supports real transparency unless you are running xgl, then anything can be made transparent
[07:44] <Matthewv> hopefully i will be corrected
[07:44] <michener> very well, thank you
[07:45] <axion`> looks like a need xgl then, is there a channel here for support?
[07:45] <kakalto> axion`: #xgl ?
[07:45] <Hobbsee> !xgl
[07:45] <ubotu> from memory, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:45] <Matthewv> axion`, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:45] <Matthewv> oops Hobbsee beat me to it :)
[07:45] <Hobbsee> :P
[07:46] <cdubya> man, ever since I upgraded to Dapper, my video is all messed up now.....I can't watch any DVDs on my laptop as totem refuses to work properly. Anyone else have any issues with the upgrade and that?
[07:46] <asdx> how do i know what driver is using my nic?
[07:46] <pvangarde> is there any way to optimize X, it is being slow on me... when i resize windows its not instantaneous, it lags...
[07:47] <axion`> excellent, thanks gents
[07:47] <bruenig> cdubya, dvd playback is not installed by default at least not for encrypted dvds
[07:47] <Utopiate> So... don't install nvidia-settings... it cancels out nvidia-glx
[07:47] <kakalto> bruenig: does the upgrade break dvd playback, so you have to re-install it?
[07:47] <cdubya> bruenig, yeah, I know....this machine had Breezy on it
[07:47] <cdubya> and it worked fine
[07:47] <nickrud> Utopiate, the nvidia-settings program is in nvidia-glx now
[07:48] <Utopiate> Yeah... it wasn't in breezy was it?
[07:48] <nickrud> no
[07:48] <sunnuntaivaihe> are there drivers for creative live 24-bit sound cards?
[07:48] <bruenig> i went with the fresh install, so I don't know
[07:48] <ic56> No one's awake in #ubuntu-doc.  Oh well.
[07:48] <Madpilot> ic56, ask a question there, people are idling
[07:49] <painkiler> hey guys
[07:49] <ic56> Madpilot: I did.  You're listed there but you didn't answer ;-)
[07:49] <Madpilot> ic56, um...
[07:49] <painkiler> Right know I am having major problems with my latest ubuntu install
[07:49] <Madpilot> ic56, nope, can't see you listed there
[07:50] <painkiler> Basically Because the PC I installed on is a PII it took so long for the x live install to come up.
[07:50] <pvangarde> is there any way to optimize X, it is being slow on me... when i resize windows its not instantaneous, it lags...
[07:50] <cdubya> so should I just pull out all the stuff related to DVD playback and totem-xine, and then reinstall?
[07:50] <painkiler> So I pluged the hdd into a newer pc with more memory. and installed
[07:50] <Flannel> painkiler: how much RAM is on it?
[07:50] <Flannel> painkiler: ah. nevermind
[07:50] <StarScream> pvangarde: whats your video card and how muc ram do you have ?
[07:50] <bruenig> cdubya, I would
[07:50] <painkiler> but now when I plug it back in it gives me the usauall xorg error...
[07:51] <pvangarde> i have an nvidia geforce 32mb, drivers installed
[07:51] <Flannel> painkiler: how much ram do you have on it?
[07:51] <pvangarde> StarScream: it shouldnt be a problem for x
[07:51] <painkiler> 128
[07:51] <cdubya> bruenig, great....now I gotta try to remember all those packages
[07:51] <pvangarde> StarScream; right?
[07:51] <cdubya> ugh
[07:51] <StarScream> pvangarde: yeh i've got a snappy system on much less :)
[07:51] <StarScream> pvangarde: what is your cpu ?
[07:51] <painkiler> so i dpkg-reconfigured xserver-xorg
[07:52] <painkiler> but then I get something about it has no screen or something...
[07:52] <pvangarde> StarScream; i think that may be the problem... my cpu is 2.6GHz PIV
[07:52] <michener> painkiller: there are two avenues
[07:52] <painkiler> the something about configing and resetting gdm
[07:52] <painkiler> so I opened the xorg config in nano
[07:52] <StarScream> pvangarde: what? 2.6ghz?
[07:52] <pvangarde> StarScream; the problem is i dont think its running on that speed
[07:52] <michener> one is to muck about in the xorg.conf
[07:52] <Matthewv> pvangarde, no problem.. i have a 800MHz PIII
[07:52] <michener> as you seem to have done
[07:53] <StarScream> pvangarde: thats not the problem
[07:53] <StarScream> i am using much much less
[07:53] <painkiler> and it seams to be configed to the other pc (as it would be)
[07:53] <disinterested_pe> y would /usr/bin/dpkg return an error and how do i fix it?
[07:53] <michener> ineed
[07:53] <michener> *indeed
[07:53] <pvangarde> StarScream; how i check on what speed its running?
[07:53] <michener> have you considered installing using the text-mode installer disc?
[07:54] <michener> cause really, this is why they have it
[07:54] <painkiler> The funny thing is, that I installed xubuntu on it this morning, and it worked perfectally fine, just after i dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:54] <StarScream> pvangarde: if you have a *ghz machine you are fine... :)
[07:54] <painkiler> so what do I do?
[07:54] <pvangarde> StarScream; then what have i done wrong?
[07:54] <StarScream> pvangarde: erm can't think why your system is lagging..which drivers are you using >?
[07:54] <painkiler> first thing... how do i restart gdm?
[07:54] <pvangarde> StarScream; ubuntu nvidia drivers
[07:55] <pvangarde> let me send you a scrnshot
[07:55] <michener> painkiller: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:55] <painkiler> ok
[07:55] <StarScream> pvangarde: what resolution are you running at ?
[07:55] <painkiler> brb
[07:55] <pvangarde> StarScream; 1024x768 shouldnt be a prob...
[07:55] <axion`> brb, rebooting
[07:56] <StarScream> pvangarde: yeh it should be fine...i thought you might be running at a higher res that the vc could handle...but thats not the case
[07:56] <StarScream> pvangarde: are you using composite ?
[07:56] <pvangarde> StarScream; i dont know what that is
[07:56] <painkiler> hmmm
[07:56] <michener> i'm doubting that helped mcuh
[07:56] <cdubya> man this is annoying.....anyone have a common list that shows what files need to be kept or not for DVD playback?
[07:56] <painkiler> When I try to startx
[07:56] <StarScream> pvangarde: more /etc/X11/xorg | grep Composite
[07:57] <painkiler> it says it has no screens... what is it meaning by that?
[07:57] <DaveyJ> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[07:57] <DaveyJ> oh noez :(
[07:57] <StarScream> painkiler: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:57] <DaveyJ> man i have no idea how to do this stuff lol
[07:57] <Matthewv> cdubya, what exactly is annoying?
[07:57] <michener> could be a number of things
[07:57] <painkiler> StarScream: I did
[07:57] <DaveyJ> this is my learning experience
[07:57] <Matthewv> DaveyJ, what are you trying to do?
[07:57] <michener> but there's the "Screens" section of xorg.conf
[07:58] <painkiler> i just stoped gnome desktop manager...
[07:58] <painkiler> *it
[07:58] <StarScream> painkiler: then your  xorg.conf is borked :) check /var/log/Xorg.log for the error
[07:58] <Utopiate> borked... hehehe...
[07:58] <painkiler> ok
[07:58] <DaveyJ> Matthewv, mount my ntfs drive
[07:58] <DaveyJ> readonly
[07:59] <DaveyJ> just so i can get some folders off of it
[07:59] <StarScream> painkiler: what did you change to make it do that
[07:59] <pvangarde> StarScream; i dont have an /etc/X11/xorg
[07:59] <StarScream> or did it not detect your card
[07:59] <Matthewv> DaveyJ, what command did you use?
[07:59] <cdubya> Matthewv, can't play any video....the video is chopped up in ogle....totem won't even run...mplayer says it's missing the default skin, which I have no idea how it suddenly is after working perfectly PRE-Dapper..............
[07:59] <bruenig> cdubya, i realize I am going to be shot for this. but assuming you know the apparent risks, automatix installs all that you need with a click
[07:59] <painkiler> StartScream, changed hdds from pcs
[07:59] <StarScream> pvangarde: hmm its something like that, i don't have an ubuntu machine here right now
[07:59] <painkiler> it must be configed to the other pc
[07:59] <DaveyJ>  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8.umask=0222
[07:59] <DaveyJ> should that . not be there
[07:59] <cdubya> and this is really frustrating having to take all this time to get these things to work after an upgrade.
[08:00] <pvangarde> StarScream: what do you have?
[08:00] <Matthewv> cdubya, those links from ubotu any help?
[08:00] <painkiler> hmm I can't find the xorg log... where is it?
[08:00] <StarScream> pvangarde: slackware-current :) which isn't much help.
[08:00] <painkiler> i did a whereis. but i can't find it.
[08:00] <StarScream> pvangarde: have a look in /etc/X11/
[08:00] <StarScream> and see whats there
[08:01] <cdubya> Matthewv, I had all that setup before the upgrade.....thing is I don't know exactly what files to go ahead and remove and then reinstall at this point....
[08:01] <michener> painkiller: whereis is kinda crappy. what are you looking for?
[08:01] <painkiler> my xorg.log
[08:01] <michener> he told you
[08:01] <painkiler> isn't there
[08:01] <Matthewv> DaveyJ, try just doing a 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows'
[08:01] <mjbjr> xorg.log's are usually /var/log
[08:01] <intelikey> .xsession-errors
[08:01] <DaveyJ> that worked lol
[08:01] <DaveyJ> thanks :)
[08:01] <Matthewv> cdubya, are you using totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[08:02] <mjbjr> usually in
[08:02] <DaveyJ> wait no
[08:02] <painkiler> How can it just start anew with my xorg?
[08:02] <DaveyJ> cant view contents
[08:02] <axion`> Mattewv - omg, i got xgl installed, it's.... awesome
[08:02] <axion`> thanks
[08:02] <Matthewv> DaveyJ, unmount it (umount) and then remount with.. hang on
[08:02] <painkiler> in fact how do i reconfigure it?
[08:02] <icky> i am upgrading to Dapper and i am having a lot of difficulties
[08:02] <icky> i get a lot of errors
[08:03] <cdubya> totem-xine
[08:03] <icky> what do i do now?
[08:03] <icky> i know if i reboot its not going to come up ;)
[08:03] <intelikey> painkiler sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:03] <painkiler> i did
[08:03] <michener> i may be shoing my age, but there used to be a xf86config tool
[08:03] <Matthewv> DaveyJ, try 'sudo mount -t ntfs -o user /dev/hda1 /media/windows'
[08:03] <painkiler> intelikey: It says it is locked by another proccess
[08:04] <michener> you sudoing when you do these things?
[08:04] <painkiler> yes
[08:04] <michener> k
[08:04] <intelikey> to restart is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:04] <pvangarde> ubuntu uses way too much RAM... i have only 256 and it's used up 150 of it already without much going on
[08:04] <painkiler> i did that too
[08:04] <Matthewv> cdubya, maybe just reinstall totem and totem-xine or something like that :)
[08:04] <painkiler> and it comes up with the xorg error message again
[08:04] <czer323> Can anyone suggest a good IRC client with a graphical interface, but more flexible?  xchat just isn't cutting it for me.
[08:04] <Matthewv> axion`, great :)
[08:04] <pvangarde> i think its not ubuntu but gnome... thats what it is
[08:05] <intelikey> painkiler then you didn't get something right in the recongif
[08:05] <michener> as I recall it, grep around in /usr/X11R6/bin for a config tool, it runs from the command line
[08:05] <Matthewv> czer323, you using xchat or xchat-gnome?
[08:05] <painkiler> i can't reconfig
[08:05] <michener> it's like XF86Config or xf86config or something
[08:05] <painkiler> ill take a photo of the error
[08:05] <Matthewv> cdubya, any specific error from totem?
[08:05] <DaveyJ> still cant be displayed
[08:05] <czer323> matthewv> i"ve tried them both.  both very lame.  I'm used to mIRC.
[08:05] <Madpilot> michener, Ubuntu uses Xorg, not Xfree
[08:05] <kakalto> !nvidia
[08:05] <intelikey> painkiler the v-refresh h-sync  rates most likely
[08:05] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[08:06] <michener> i said I might be showing my age
[08:06] <michener> heh.
[08:06] <michener> but as i recall something similar exists
[08:06] <michener> it might be xorgconf or something
[08:06] <czer323> pvangarde> I've heard that xfce is much lighter weight than gnome in resources.
[08:06] <painkiler> intelikey: what was that?
[08:06] <DaveyJ> Matthewv, t, still cant be displayed
[08:06] <DaveyJ> dunno where that t, came from
[08:07] <czer323> !xfce
[08:07] <ubotu> I guess xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[08:07] <michener> czer323: I use xfce when on underpowered machines. it does run a bit better. but if you want really lightweight go Windowmaker or blackbox
[08:07] <pvangarde>  czer323: i used enlightenment on gentoo and it only consumed 60MB
[08:08] <Miles> kind of new but have been working with linux for awhile, just wanted to know if it was possible to change my partitions after i have installed xp, as i want to add a ubuntu partition
[08:08] <Miles> ?
[08:08] <Matthewv> DaveyJ, maybe 'sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/hda1 /media/windows'
[08:08] <mjbjr> xubuntu comes with xfce4 instead of gnome, I believe
[08:08] <michener> yes. while i advocate partition magic, I hear parted can resize ntfs these days
[08:08] <DaveyJ> wait it did mount
[08:09] <DaveyJ> just not showing up in gnome
[08:09] <DaveyJ> can only access it through terminal
[08:09] <cdubya> Matthewv, The program 'totem' received an X Window System error.
[08:09] <cdubya> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[08:09] <IcemanV9> Miles: you'll get an option to resize your hd; gparted will do the job
[08:09] <Matthewv> cdubya, never seen that one before ...
[08:09] <Matthewv> DaveyJ, probably because its been mounted as root and wants to be accessed as such.. does the above command make any difference
[08:10] <DaveyJ> ahh true .. i'll try
[08:10] <Matthewv> czer323, you could try gaim or kopete or irssi :P  but i doubt you'll like any of those
[08:11] <Madpilot> I can't get Totem-xine to play .ogg audio now - it used to work...
[08:11] <Miles> (((icemanv9)))if i resize my hd using the ubuntu install wouldn't that kick off my windows partition?
[08:11] <michener> czer323 -- or you could learn to use an honest-to-goodness irc client like BitchX :D  or run mIRC in wine
[08:11] <DaveyJ> ahhh yes Matthewv
[08:11] <DaveyJ> that worked
[08:11] <DaveyJ> thanks :)
[08:12] <Matthewv> no probs DaveyJ it was basically the same as ur first command u just had the options in the wrong spot
[08:12] <Matthewv> :)
[08:12] <DaveyJ> oh lol :)
[08:12] <DaveyJ> whoops
[08:12] <zer0> can anyone tell me how I can make a certain user or group not have to enter a password when using sudo (and yes I realize the implications)
[08:12] <DaveyJ> i'm still learning ^_^
[08:13] <DaveyJ> left on the agenda: try out wine, learn how to get/use xgl plugins, get multiple monitors working
[08:13] <DaveyJ> :)
[08:13] <michener> zer0:  I don't think you realize the implications....
[08:13] <Miles> (((icemanv9)))sorry i am just so confused with this whole process, can i just start installing ubuntu and resize it but keep my windows partition,
[08:13] <czer323> michener> I tried running bitchx earlier, and it was consuming half of my resources and just kinda seemed like it was hanging.  If you think it's better than xchat, i'll certainly work on fixing it then.
[08:13] <Matthewv> zer0, i don't think it can be done easily, as ubuntu is set up around sudo so that members of the admin group have sudo  acess with pasword
[08:13] <cyne> Miles, why would you want to keep Windows?
[08:13] <thansen|laptop> Miles: in theory yes
[08:13] <michener> czer323 -- half your resources? BitchX is an old-style command line tool
[08:14] <Matthewv> DaveyJ, i have dual monitors i would suggest searching google for a gentoo guide on those dual monitors that seems to work well..
[08:14] <zer0> I know it can be done cause I saw mention of it in the sudo man page, but frankly the syntax is over my head
[08:14] <Miles> because i use word and quickbooks for work and cant get those programs for linux
[08:14] <czer323> michener> Yeah, nothing ever appeared, so i assumed it had hung.  I had to kill the process.
[08:14] <painkiler> well, after a few times of restarting and reconfiging, I finaly got the xorg running
[08:14] <DaveyJ> oh yeah?
[08:14] <painkiler> thanx for the help
[08:14] <michener> czer323 -- ahh... how did you try running it?
[08:14] <cyne> Miles, OpenOffice Writer opens word documents
[08:14] <DaveyJ> i actually have 3 monitors.. but getting two to work first is my first goal :)
[08:14] <Matthewv> DaveyJ, yeah
[08:15] <painkiler> cya later
[08:15] <Utopiate> Do the repo's have a RealVNC .deb?
[08:15] <michener> czer323 -- classically, you give it the server to connect to as an option
[08:15] <Matthewv> i don't think the process is any different for three monitors DaveyJ just means you got to set up 3 screens and cards instead of two
[08:15] <DaveyJ> i jsut gotta figure out how to use the dual output on the card
[08:15] <michener> czer323 -- or you tell it /server <whatever>
[08:15] <Miles> i have tried to convert my files to word format back at the office many times and it just hasn't worked out, but still need quickbooks besides needing word, wouldn
[08:15] <czer323> michener> Through a console.  I had only typed in bitchx.  I was hoping at least to get a line with the arguments.  I'm going to install more bitchx components.
[08:15] <Utopiate> erm...
[08:16] <derjur> has anyone had any issues connecting to msn with 6.06?
[08:16] <thansen|laptop> Miles: we're glad you're trying out linux man...just give it a whirl and use whatever works for you
[08:17] <intelikey> miles just a thought  abiword    .rtf   maybe ?    not that you want to go that way, it's just a thought.
[08:17] <derjur> i've tried amsn, gaim and psi, and they're terribly finicky, yet i can still connect fine (same profile) from my freebsd laptop
[08:17] <Miles> i'll look into it, thanks intelikey
[08:17] <pvangarde> can i install windows on a nonbootable partition? anyone know?
[08:17] <IcemanV9> Miles: it worked on mine. it is dual-boot box.
[08:18] <cdubya> where do you get libdvdcss from?
[08:18] <mystamax> hello, I just installed Frostwire via .deb file, but I cannot launch it via the Applications -> Internet Menu??? Any ideas??
[08:18] <Miles> alright well i will have to try that thanks
[08:18] <cdubya> man, this crazy
[08:18] <michener> also, it's BitchX not bitchx...
[08:18] <r0xoR> !tell cdubya about restricted
[08:18] <IcemanV9> !tell Miles about dualboot
[08:18] <michener> but that shouldn't matter
[08:18] <cdubya> ugh, I've got the wiki.
[08:19] <Matthewv> mystamax, try doing alt+F2 and then typing in frostwire and hitting enter
[08:19] <czer323> michener> running BitchX now.  i'm going to need to do a lot of configuring...
[08:19] <cdubya> But I'm not finding the actual package for libdvdcss
[08:19] <intelikey> matters much, everything in linux is case sensitive.
[08:19] <cdubya> libdvdread is there, but I don't see libdvdcss
[08:19] <michener> czer323 -- configuring like what?
[08:19] <Matthewv> cdubya see the desktop guide System --> Help --> System Documentation
[08:19] <r0xoR> cdubya, dapper, breezy? x86? 64bit? PPC?
[08:19] <Matthewv> cdubya, it has instructions in there :)
[08:20] <barleyman> just upgraded auto smbfs mount in /etc/fstab causes hald hang at boot.  Any ideas?
[08:20] <czer323> michener> colors for one thing.  and status messages.  I don't need to know about everyone that just entered the chat.  THat was my big gripe with xchat.
[08:20] <cdubya> dapper
[08:20] <morzel> hi
[08:20] <H080J03> hello
[08:20] <cdubya> that's when things broke, r0x0r
[08:20] <barleyman> upgraded to dapper and that is when things broke
[08:20] <radio> hey, can someone tell me how I can install libdecss on dapper?
[08:20] <morzel> do you know, how can I configure the resolution of gdm?
[08:21] <Matthewv> czer323, you can't set xchat to ignore joins and parts, i was sure you could, although i have nver worked it out.. maybe u cant
[08:21] <intelikey> czer323 that can be sent to the server window in xchat also
[08:21] <intelikey> Matthewv you can
[08:21] <Matthewv> intelikey, how ?? :)
[08:21] <michener> yeah, it might take some configuring, but with BitchX you can use the joy of screen
[08:22] <intelikey> it's in the settings advanced
[08:22] <cdubya> Matthewv, I'm not sure how to get there at this point, because I'm not using gnome anymore.....I boot xfce
[08:22] <Miles> I have another question actually on my other desktop computer i installed the grub loader but then i got error 21 and now everytime i try to install a new clean installation i still keep getting error 21?
[08:22] <czer323> matthewv, intelikey> perhaps, but i didn't see any options.  I'll check it out again.
[08:22] <Matthewv> anyone got any ideas on hp printers mucking up colours: printing black as a combination of colours??
[08:22] <william__> Whats the equivilent to Nero Vision so I can transcode files and make dvd menus?
[08:22] <troy_s> matthewv:  try a different hp driver.
[08:23] <troy_s> william: you will use a subset of tools
[08:23] <sailor_moon> william,want 2 chat with me
[08:23] <intelikey> don't make me install xchat just to show you where the button is.....
[08:23] <troy_s> william:  start with transcode, mplayer, dvdauthor... etc.
[08:23] <IcemanV9> Matthewv: yes, you can ignore join & part msgs; /set irc_conf_mode 1
[08:23] <thansen|laptop> william__: soon Diva ( www.diva-project.org )
[08:23] <czer323_bitchx> intelikey> LOL  I'll look around ;)
[08:23] <Miles> does anyone know what error 21 on the grub loader is and how to fix it?
[08:23] <Matthewv> troy_s, as in? it is a hp psc 1410, using the hp psc 1400 driver, and is definitely a driver issue, as a windows machine can print to the same printer shared on a dapper machine fine
[08:24] <Matthewv> IcemanV9, thankyou
[08:24] <william__> thansen|laptop: soon Diva will be good?
[08:24] <Matthewv> IcemanV9, doesn't work though :(
[08:24] <kjon> TT_TT man, printin' doesn't work on my ubuntu. I'm trying the livecd, but, if I'm unable to print, I'm going to start thinking about this distro is useless...
[08:24] <kjon> any help?
[08:24] <Miles> well all that helped thank you
[08:25] <Burgundavia> william__: I would try pitivi, it is already better
[08:25] <Matthewv> kjon, what printer?
[08:25] <william__> gotcha lemme go check it out
[08:25] <kjon> Matthewv C40UX (epson)
[08:26] <intelikey> miles ive seen it  google has info on it.     find what it is we'll help ya fix it.
[08:26] <IcemanV9> Matthewv: it will work when you join another channel or start up xchat in later time; however right-click on the channel tab #ubuntu > click off "show join/part messages"
[08:26] <william__> Burgundavia: seems more like a video editor
[08:26] <william__> troy_s:  have you heard of DVD Styler
[08:26] <czer323_bitchx> intelikey> xchat or xchat-gnome?
[08:26] <intelikey> xchat
[08:26] <intelikey> never seen xchat-gnome
[08:27] <IcemanV9> Matthewv: it'll work right away while you're in the channel :)
[08:27] <Matthewv> k thanks a lot IcemanV9
[08:27] <Burgundavia> william__: both diva and pitivi are both video editors
[08:27] <Matthewv> intelikey, don't bother looking at it :)
[08:27] <intelikey> :)
[08:27] <kjon> and I have another question. I suffered 8 unsuccesfull attemps of installing ubuntu from the alternate cd. When the installation reached the "Xorg" stage, it froze my laptop... hell...
[08:27] <william__> not exactly looking for a video editor as much as an dvd authoring suite
[08:28] <Matthewv> kjon, that'd be a stylus?
[08:28] <kjon> Matthewv, Epson *Stylus* C40UX... :P
[08:28] <guestie> can anybody tell me why running GTKwifi when i was connected to my access point actually disconnected me
[08:29] <H080J03> ok i am trying to install cedega and i get the message Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs, what can i do to fix this?
[08:29] <intelikey> what is that key to make the keyboard take you to a console when x hangs ?    alt+sysrq+R && ctro+alt+f#   is that it ?
[08:29] <guestie> my wireless works but i can never tell whose network im on
[08:29] <czer323_bitchx> I'm going to put a new singles ad out...  "Likes to install new linux distributions and listen to the topgun soundtrack."
[08:29] <kjon> H080J03, that means that "xlibs" doesn't exist on your installed repositories :P
[08:29] <guestie> ubuntu should have a better wireless management
[08:29] <william__> same with me guestie Im on wireless
[08:30] <william__> I dunno how to control it
[08:30] <H080J03> i tryed to install it, kjon, but it isn't there
[08:30] <thansen|laptop> willianm__: yeah, Diva is getting there...it will have an export to dvd feature (with plugins for authoring)
[08:30] <Matthewv> kjon, so what do you mean by it doesn't work.. any error? the driver is installed by default
[08:30] <william__> I mean it worked / installed flawlessly but no clue what network im on
[08:30] <czer323_bitchx> guesti> check out NetworkManager.  It's super sweet.
[08:30] <czer323_bitchx> !networkmanager
[08:30] <guestie> will, same exact with me
[08:30] <ubotu> from memory, networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[08:30] <guestie> i worry about whats going to happen when i go back to school though
[08:30] <guestie> switching between wireless at the library/in buildings/in my dorm
[08:30] <guestie> and GTKwifi doesnt seem to do much, i thought itd be the key
[08:30] <iiiears> xlibs are in synaptic or apt-get if you have enabled universe community supported
[08:30] <guestie> anybody know a good wifi thing for ubuntu
[08:30] <H080J03> thanks
[08:31] <kjon> H080J03, mhhh... look for a breezy-badger repository. It might work as a patch solution.
[08:31] <thansen|laptop> guestie: NetworkManager is great
[08:31] <H080J03> hmm
[08:31] <czer323_bitchx> Guestie> networkmanager man!  It's the greatest.  It allows to see the nework and join it easily.
[08:31] <Matthewv> guestie, u tried networkmanager?
[08:31] <czer323_bitchx> !networkmanager
[08:31] <guestie> nope, I didnt know it existed
[08:31] <ubotu> methinks networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[08:31] <guestie> ill get it right away
[08:31] <radio> how do I play DVDs on Dapper?
[08:31] <guestie> any idea how to get rid of this GTK junk first tho?
[08:31] <iiiears> Hi guestie, How is it going?
[08:31] <troy_s> ubotu, tell radio about dvd
[08:31] <KenSentMe> Hi, i'm setting up WPA security on my laptop. According to the WPAHowTo wiki i have to install gnome-network-manager, reboot, left click on it, connect to other wireless network and then choose WPA, but i only have the options None and WEP. Anyone know why?
[08:31] <Matthewv> guestie, sudo apt-get remove gtkwifi  ?
[08:31] <intelikey> czer323_bitchx looks like he's ignoring you....
[08:31] <guestie> ill try that
[08:32] <william__> anyone had any luck with Torvid?
[08:32] <czer323_bitchx> intelikey> I guess it's cause i'm a bitch. :(
[08:32] <Kr0ntab> KenSentMe, need to install wpasupplicant
[08:32] <intelikey> i'm on bx myself
[08:32] <kjon> Matthewv, I tried to install the printer by the "click and click" method. I followed all the instructions from the assistants, but, It didn't install it. I tried several times but, the printer didn't show up on the "printers" window.
[08:32] <Kr0ntab> sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[08:32] <KenSentMe> Kr0ntab: is already installed on dapper
[08:32] <Utopiate> wow... I can't find any good looking Firefox themes...
[08:32] <Kr0ntab> i had prob getting network manager to work...
[08:32] <troy_s> wow... did WPA make it in for dapper?
[08:33] <czer323_bitchx> utopiate> my favorite theme is Qute
[08:33] <paul_> any advice when mplayer locks up only on some dvds?
[08:33] <Matthewv> kjon, just try selecting Add New Printer from System --> Administration --> Printing and running through the wizard
[08:33] <czer323_bitchx> Utopiate> simple and sweet.
[08:33] <troy_s> paul:  check your hardware... could be sound or vid.
[08:33] <guestie> i think GTK is gone, so now I guess I should do sudo apt-get network-manager?
[08:33] <intelikey> firefox ?  <gag>  <gag> <gag> !      hehhe
[08:33] <Kr0ntab> i just configure it manually...
[08:33] <troy_s> paul:  also try an alternate just to localize the problem.  vlc is a good one as is xine.
[08:33] <guestie> maybe ill do it through synaptic so ill have a record
[08:33] <Matthewv> guestie, yep should work, check out !networkmanager as well
[08:33] <kjon> Matthewv, I did *exactly* that. But, It didn't show my printer ... TT_TT
[08:33] <KenSentMe> Kr0ntab: me too, but now it works. I unmarked all other connections then lo from /etc/network/interfaces, then reboot and it works
[08:33] <czer323_bitchx> !swiftfox
[08:33] <mystamax> Matthewv: That helped! I was able to see that I need to update my JRE. I guess EasyUbuntu doesn't install a valid JRE.
[08:33] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, czer323_bitchx
[08:34] <KenSentMe> Kr0ntab: i tried to do it manually, but that didn't work either
[08:34] <Matthewv> mystamax, no prob...
[08:34] <paul_> okee thanks once again. hehe
[08:34] <Matthewv> mystamax, suns jre is in the repos now :)
[08:34] <william__> Im trying to install NetworkManager but its telling me.. Application might not support my system architecture.  any ideas?
[08:34] <kjon> anyway, I'm going to reboot this thing. I'm gonna try my new installation (9th. attemp)
[08:34] <Kr0ntab> well i think there's a bug with Mode 1 as described in README.modes...
[08:34] <intelikey> ubotu i don't want to search
[08:34] <ubotu> intelikey: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:34] <Matthewv> william__, ignore the error. or doesn't that work
[08:34] <Kr0ntab> ia have a couple inquiries about it out there... but Mode 2 works fine
[08:34] <w^x> hey where is the wiki page for upgrading from 5.10 to 6.06???
[08:35] <Matthewv> ubotu, my cats name is kittens
[08:35] <ubotu> okay, Matthewv
[08:35] <intelikey> ubotu you don't have a cat
[08:35] <w^x> dont see it
[08:35] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[08:35] <Matthewv> oops :)
[08:35] <troy_s> ubotu, tell w^x about upgrade
[08:35] <Matthewv> !my cats name
[08:35] <ubotu> well, my cats name is kittens
[08:35] <w^x> thnx
[08:35] <intelikey> ubotu you don't have a cat
[08:35] <Matthewv> oops :D :D
[08:35] <mystamax> Matthewv: Should I uninstall what easyubuntu installed?
[08:35] <Matthewv> intelikey, i accidentally set the factoid my cats name to kittens ;)
[08:35] <Matthewv> mystamax, probably
[08:36] <guestie> ok i just got network-manager, now how do i check it out?
[08:36] <intelikey> :)
[08:36] <KenSentMe> Kr0ntab: so how did you get wpa running then?
[08:36] <Matthewv> guestie, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[08:36] <guestie> thanks boss
[08:37] <Kr0ntab> create wpa config file... and in /etc/network/interfaces you create an entry called wpa-conf /path/to/conf-file
[08:37] <mystamax> Matthewv: Also when I came back to my GUI session (ALT-CTRL-F7) from the CLI, My screen was all messed up, text was unreadable, and colors weren't right?
[08:37] <Kr0ntab> underneath the wireless interface entry
[08:37] <Matthewv> czer323_bitchx, did you see that right clicking on a button on the bottom row on xchat allows you to make it ignore joins and parts?
[08:38] <william__> troy_s:  so I'm getting Transcode, MPlayer and DVDauthor... anything else I'll need?
[08:38] <Matthewv> mystamax, thats strange, although i have seen it happen.. is it a major problem? ie will you be doing that often?
[08:38] <KenSentMe> Kr0ntab: could you pastebin your config file (without the key) ?
[08:38] <czer323> Matthewv> Negatory boss.  Just did it.
[08:38] <Utopiate> Ooooohhh... breezy!
[08:38] <mystamax> Matthewv: most likely I'm trying to interact w/ the CLI as much as possible... I'm learning here...
[08:38] <Matthewv> Utopiate, ooooohhh dapper :)
[08:39] <guestie> how do I log out of a gnome session?
[08:39] <Kr0ntab> http://pastebin.com/764564
[08:39] <Matthewv> mystamax, usually the cli is accessed through Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal
[08:39] <ydnar> is there a global shortcut key to open the terminal?
[08:39] <mcpowley> Hey, is XGL worth making an effort to install right now? It looks so darn great, and I really want to try it out, but it's just so hard to install for me, i'm stuck with a compiz.real no composite error
[08:40] <Matthewv> guestie, System --> Quit.. on dapper, or System --> Log off <user>... on breezy/hoary
[08:40] <guestie> thanks, bback i guess
[08:40] <Kr0ntab> KenSentMe, eth1 is my wireless interface...
[08:40] <Matthewv> mcpowley, depends how much you want it :) ... try #ubuntu-xgl
[08:40] <Kr0ntab> KenSentMe, the above pastebin should get ya going...
[08:40] <mcpowley> thanks much ;)
[08:40] <czer323_bitchx> exit
[08:41] <neutrinomass> Is there a text-based HTTP downloader that gets installed by default ?
[08:41] <czer323> I guess that settles it for now.
[08:41] <czer323> xchat it is for awhile.
[08:41] <Matthewv> neutrinomass, wget
[08:41] <intelikey> wget
[08:41] <KenSentMe> Kr0ntab: thanx
[08:41] <Kr0ntab> KenSentMe, no prob....
[08:41] <kakalto> what protocols are available for the "mouse" section in the xorg.conf?
[08:41] <guest_anonnnn> hi all, I was wondering, after upgrading to dapper, why dragging windows around the screen is so sluggish on a working 3 gig ati 9800 with fglrx. Is this a feature I can turn off?
[08:41] <neutrinomass> According to aptitude show wget it's not automatically installed....
[08:41] <intelikey> there is also a wput
[08:41] <neutrinomass> Bah, I'm an idiot. OK, thanks !
[08:42] <Matthewv> guest_anonnnn, someone else was wondering the same thing a few minutes ago... maybe a bug?
[08:42] <Kr0ntab> KenSentMe, also.. to get a good undertanding of what happens with the interface when it goes up and down... try "sudo ifup eth1 --verbose"
[08:42] <czer323> sudo crush video bug
[08:42] <guest_anonnnn> dont know, but it feals like my old 486
[08:42] <Ar2No> does anybody know how to use ssh in terminal?
[08:42] <Matthewv> czer323, try sudo hammer :P
[08:42] <Kr0ntab> KenSentMe, and "sudo ifdown eth1 --verbose".... they'll give you a nice run down of exactly what's happenin in the back ground...
[08:43] <intelikey> Ar2No nope no one
[08:43] <guestie> well it looks like network manager is up but ive still got the standard 2 computer screen and green bar next to it... any idea how to get rid of that green guy?
[08:43] <intelikey> ssh user@host
[08:43] <Kr0ntab> KenSentMe, "eth1" is my wireless interface... replace with yours of course
[08:43] <czer323> guestie> provided networkmanager is working, right click> remove on the other guy.
[08:44] <intelikey> Ar2No man ssh
[08:44] <guestie> czer, and that will make him not do his job any more?
[08:44] <irieken> Ok, I'm really really lost. I've got Ubuntu installed on a Libretto 110CT, but can't get the resolution to go to 800x480 (goes to 800x600 no matter what I do). I have changed the modes in the xorg.conf file to be 800x480, and even inserted Option "overridevalidatemode" into the device section... Any help at all would be very very very very appreciated:)
[08:44] <guestie> network manager says its connected and the bars are blue so i think that means im good to go
[08:44] <Guerra> irieken
[08:44] <czer323> guestie> no.  In the article it talks about removing the auto configs.  That's what makes it not do it's job.
[08:44] <Ar2No> intelikey, I just want to know the simple command use for ssh login.
[08:44] <Guerra> open /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root
[08:44] <intelikey> ssh user@host
[08:44] <guestie> all right ill do that then, seemed a little heady lol
[08:45] <czer323> guestie> so yeah, if networkmanager is working, just remove the other guy. ;)
[08:45] <Matthewv> er.. intelikey whats up
[08:45] <guestie> oh ok then
[08:45] <Matthewv> oops sry intelikey my mistake
[08:45] <irieken> Guerra, ok.
[08:45] <irieken> Guerra: then what?
[08:46] <intelikey> Matthewv hehhe this irc is my only command line and i forgot the /exec before that ssh command....  heh  :)
[08:46] <mystamax> gnight everyone
[08:46] <Guerra> it is morning
[08:46] <Guerra> hm
[08:46] <intelikey> well maybe not.
[08:46] <ydnar> is there a hotkey to open up a terminal from the desktop?
[08:47] <intelikey> ydnar there can be.
[08:47] <Matthewv> Guerra, afternoon here.. it depends where u are
[08:47] <irieken> Guerra: What would you like me to do once I am in the xorg.conf file?:)
[08:47] <ydnar> how would i set that up intelikey?
[08:47] <Matthewv> ydnar, you can set one in System --> Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:47] <Guerra> i opend a private conversation?
[08:47] <czer323> ydnar> I read about a terminal like QUAKE!  but it was for KDE.  I thought that sounded super sweet.
[08:47] <Guerra> opened
[08:47] <intelikey> edit the hotkeys
[08:47] <ydnar> wow, i'm sorry for asking such a lame question
[08:47] <guest_anonnnn> Matthewv: How is you machine?
[08:47] <Guerra> @ Matthew: I know, I was kidding.. Netherlands, here
[08:48] <guestie> anybody here check an email account that usually uses groupwise on Ubuntu?  What program do you use?
[08:48] <ydnar> sitting right under system / preferences
[08:48] <intelikey> ydnar depends on the wm how it's done.  and i don't do 'nome
[08:48] <Matthewv> Guerra, Australia here :)
[08:48] <irieken> Guerra: Have I lost you?
[08:48] <Guerra> hmm
[08:48] <Guerra> you're using gaim >_> anyway
[08:48] <ydnar> heh, i set my windows key to open a terminal :] 
[08:48] <KenSentMe> Kr0ntab: in my router i have a wpa passphrase, that's something different then the hash is it?
 hey
 Open a terminal
 ad enter the following command:
 sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 scroll down untill you see Section "Screen"
 Look what the  DefaultDepth variable is
 (probably 24)
[08:49] <Matthewv> guestie, evolution maybe?
 scroll down to the appropiate depth
 and add the resolutions you want!
[08:49] <Matthewv> Guerra, stop
 (your video card must support them)
[08:49] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[08:49] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[08:49] <Matthewv> Guerra, use pastebin or #flood for pasting stuff
[08:49] <Guerra> okay
[08:49] <AgentOOK> hi all. I've got some problems getting my wireless usb dongle to work on dapper. On my WAP I sometimes sees it. But each time I try to connect via network manager it simply fails. And I can't get it to work via command line, it says something about it not being configured.
[08:49] <irieken> Guerra: ummmm, did you happen to read my message? That's already been done...
[08:49] <Guerra> o
[08:49] <Guerra> lal
[08:49] <guestie> Matt, I guess ill try Evolution first since it came with it
[08:49] <irieken> Sorry.
[08:49] <irieken> :)
[08:49] <Guerra> :p
[08:49] <irieken> I may be new... but not that new;)
[08:49] <MrBallZ> hi, I installed dapper, and my atheros minipci card was working , until I changed the kernel from 386, to the 686 ... what can i do _
[08:50] <Kr0ntab> KenSentMe, if you dont have your passphrase in a hash format... simply use the    psk="My password goes here..."    format...
[08:50] <neutrinomass> Anybody with a speedtouch modem ?
[08:50] <Matthewv> guestie, yeah, I'm not sure, but i think evolution does it..
[08:50] <guestie> i think groupwise is IMAP which evolution is giving me an option for
[08:50] <guestie> oh wow
[08:50] <guestie> they have a groupwise option too
[08:50] <guestie> score
[08:50] <Kr0ntab> you'll want to create the hash later using the wpa_passphrase command...
[08:50] <Matthewv> MrBallZ, maybe redo the installation of ur card, like you did originally..?
[08:50] <iiiears> guestie - Mozilla Thunderbird is also very nice
[08:50] <irieken> Anyone else have any ideas about the resolution problem?
[08:51] <Guerra> well
[08:51] <Guerra> of course
[08:51] <eclair> is anyone here having troubles with mounting a fat 32 drive on a dual-boot set up of dapper and windows xp?
[08:51] <Matthewv> !fixresolution
[08:51] <Guerra> you've got to restart gnome
[08:51] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Matthewv
[08:51] <guestie> iiiears, I am a fan of mozilla products... i guess for now ill just use this since im half way there already
[08:51] <Matthewv> !resolution
[08:51] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:51] <Guerra> k
[08:51] <Guerra> ctrl+alt+backspace, irieken
[08:51] <MrBallZ> Matthewv: after I did the dapper install it was recognized, and all I did was change the kernel, and now it doesnt show up, and the modules arent there ...
[08:51] <irieken> Guerra: Already restarted X... it's not that.
[08:52] <Guerra> after editing the xorg.conf file?
[08:52] <iiiears> guestie - I think the plug-ins for tunderbird will win you over.
[08:52] <iiiears> *Thunderbird
[08:52] <irieken> Guerra: It's because 800x480 is a non-standard resolution, so X keeps forcing 800x600.... It's driving me nuts...
[08:52] <tortho> any translators in here?
[08:52] <guestie> i will check them out then
[08:52] <Matthewv> MrBallZ, that'd be because you are now using a different kernel, which will have a diff. set of modules, i think.. so redoing it might be all you can do... or it might not be.. so... i'm not sure?
[08:52] <Guerra> @ tortho: which language?
[08:52] <tortho> Guerra: any
[08:52] <KenSentMe> Kr0ntab: when i do sudo ifdown wlan0 --verbose it says wlan0 not configured and when i do /etc/init.d/networking restart i get an error of no such device
[08:53] <Guerra> dutch here
[08:53] <guestie> iiears, does it have a bona-fide groupwise option so i dont need to use my brain?
[08:53] <CrippsFX> irieken, I'm running 1280x768 without any problems ...
[08:53] <irieken> And X won't follow directions (use a non-standard mode)...
[08:53] <Guerra> i've got the same problem with 1152-864..
[08:53] <Kr0ntab> KenSentMe, "iwconfig" tells you which device is recognized as one with wireless extensions.  whats the name of yer device?
[08:53] <irieken> Cripps: I think that 1280x768 is more common that 800x480:)
[08:54] <m_0_r_0_n> Hi, I ve upgraded to dapper. Now I get the message that not all packages couldnt have been updated. The following packages have been kept back "libopenal0". Any idea to fix this problem?
[08:54] <kakalto> what kind of a res is 800x480
[08:54] <CrippsFX> irieken, what are you running that's 800x480? an old widescreen?
[08:54] <irieken> Kakalto: native LCD resolution for my Libretto;)
[08:54] <tortho> Guerra: I'm trying to get more people to be aware, and to put some pressure on fixing this one: https://launchpad.net/products/rosetta/+bug/39619 It should be stopped NOW.
[08:54] <Matthewv> m_0_r_0_n, try a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[08:54] <irieken> Cripps: Yep... sub-notebook...
[08:54] <kakalto> irieken: curious.
[08:54] <CrippsFX> irieken, ahh. how would it respond to 1280x768 ?
[08:54] <CrippsFX> irieken, those *are* fun ...
[08:54] <Guerra> tortho: visiting it now..
[08:55] <irieken> cripps: the same way that it responds to 800x600:) It works, but it chops everything off on the integrated LCD panel... external output is fine though.
[08:55] <m_0_r_0_n> Matthewv, I get the same message!
[08:55] <irieken> ohhh, 1280x768.... hmmm
[08:55] <irieken> let me see;)
[08:55] <kakalto> how can I change the text that comes up when you come to the console login screen?
[08:55] <CrippsFX> irieken, ahh. so it doesn't auto-resize to fit the hardware ... that sucks.
[08:55] <irieken> Yeah:(
[08:56] <kakalto> where it says "ubuntu 6.06 LTS <hostname> <tty#>
[08:56] <irieken> I'm going to cry... other people have gotten it to work with Xfree86
[08:56] <Guerra> brb
[08:56] <Anchoito21> hola
[08:56] <jmworx> Has dapper done anything special with latex/babel. I've got a document I can no longer compile: "Package babel Error: You haven't defined the language ENGLISH yet."
[08:56] <jmworx> Any tip?
[08:56] <neutrinomass> tortho: +1 on last comment
[08:56] <jmworx> Could it be related to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=357429
[08:57] <tortho> guerra: Heres another one, and the problemn is that they don't even know if there is m,ore of them https://launchpad.net/products/rosetta/+bug/40117, so every package in Rosetta would need a check! Just be aware, so your now wasting your time!
[08:57] <Matthewv> m_0_r_0_n, maybe just remove the package : 'sudo apt-get remove libopenal0'? and then reinstall it later? or will it remove too much?
[08:57] <AgentOOK> Is it normal that for an usb dongle when I type ifconfig it indicates the following : rausb0    Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0E:8E:04:82:93
[08:57] <AgentOOK>           adr inet6: fe80::20e:8eff:fe04:8293/64 Scope:Lien
[08:57] <AgentOOK>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[08:57] <AgentOOK>           Packets reus:0 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0
[08:57] <AgentOOK>           TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[08:57] <AgentOOK>           collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
[08:57] <AgentOOK>           Octets reus:1000773 (977.3 KiB) Octets transmis:240112 (234.4 KiB)
[08:57] <Matthewv> !pastebin
[08:57] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[08:57] <m_0_r_0_n> How I find out what program is using libopenal0?
[08:57] <kakalto>  AgentOOK, there's a paste bin for that kind of stuff
[08:58] <irieken> So, do you guys think that I should just give up on this Libretto issue? Wait till someone else gets it fixed on 6.06?
[08:58] <Matthewv> m_0_r_0_n, i don't think any are.. if you type the above command it will tell you first what it will remove, but i would just remove it as on my system at least, nothing seems to depend on it..
[08:58] <sleepster> is there any tricks to installing ubuntu?
[08:58] <Matthewv> m_0_r_0_n, then you can install it again after
[08:58] <sleepster> i just pop in the cd right?
[08:58] <Matthewv> sleepster, yes...
[08:58] <kakalto> sleepster: yup.
[08:58] <irieken> sleepster: And click on the install icon.... and answer the 6 questions;)
[08:58] <Matthewv> sleepster, just back up first :)
[08:58] <kakalto> sleepster: the trick, is getting the cd into the drive :P
[08:58] <AgentOOK> oops sorry first time on IRC I didn't know .
[08:58] <Ar2No> how to add user and allow them to use ssh and ftp services?
[08:58] <m_0_r_0_n> Matthewv, ok, Removing libopenal0 ...
[08:58] <tortho> neutrinomass & guerra, please subscribe to these, and put some pressure, there is a lot of newbie translators out there which will quit when their work get dumped.
[08:59] <kakalto> AgentOOK: that's ok, just don't do it again :)
[08:59] <sleepster> man i am popular
[08:59] <sleepster> :)
[08:59] <czer323> sleepster> you gotta put your computer upside down on the desk and then use the mouse backwards... Wire towards you.  That's an amazing trick.
[08:59] <Ar2No> any body know how to add user and allow them to use ssh and ftp services?
[08:59] <Guerra> ssh is standard
[08:59] <andax> anyone else experiencing the "[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for...." error since last upgrade, when trying to run opengl applications?
[08:59] <Guerra> any user can use SSH by standard
[08:59] <Guerra> ftp differs per server
[08:59] <kakalto> isn't there a user-manager in one of the preferences menus?
[09:00] <Matthewv> Ar2No, probably just add the user the groups required... although i thought most of those were done by default
[09:00] <Guerra> System - Administration - Users and Groups
[09:00] <Matthewv> Ar2No, there is an ssh group, maybe add the user to that?
[09:01] <Ar2No> Matthewv,  but do u know how to type the command into the terminal?
[09:01] <Matthewv> Ar2No, i did.. hang on:)
[09:01] <m_0_r_0_n> Hm, the "Run an Application"-Applet has been replaced by an "WebSearch"-Applet. Is there a way to get the applet as an Textfield in the panel?
[09:02] <Matthewv> Ar2No, 'sudo usermod -Ga ssh <username>'
[09:02] <Matthewv> m_0_r_0_n, right click on panel --> Add to Panel... ?
[09:03] <Matthewv> m_0_r_0_n, everything fine with libopenal0 now?
[09:03] <m_0_r_0_n> Matthewv, yes, thanky you
[09:03] <czer323> m_0_r_0_n> I'm assuming you mean the deskbar applet?  You can change the preferences with a rightclick> preferences.
[09:03] <Ar2No> Matthewv,  how if I type useradd <username>
[09:04] <Anchoito21> anyone knows about alsaconf?
[09:04] <m_0_r_0_n> czer323, you re right, I want back the textfield to run applications,
[09:04] <Anchoito21> i need to install a soundcard
[09:04] <iiiears> Hi Dan Le Tigre
[09:05] <vinux> hi all
[09:05] <czer323> m_0_r_0_n> Yeah, you can rearrange what it looks for first.  I had to fix that myself too.
[09:05] <Freduardo> morning all
[09:05] <kakalto> vinux: hi
[09:05] <kakalto> Freduardo: evening :)
[09:05] <Freduardo> :)
[09:06] <animato> hello, is there any application that will allow me to change icons for everything? i'm talking about using pngs, not icon sets
[09:06] <miles> can i update to 6.06 from 5.10?
[09:07] <synap> !upgrade
[09:07] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[09:07] <miles> thanks
[09:07] <rak_> hey, i'm trying to install opera using synaptic package manager but i keep getting "Depends: xlib6g (>=3.3.6) but it is not installable or
[09:07] <rak_>  	xlibs  but it is not installable" error
[09:09] <Madpilot> rak_, check Opera's forums, there's a howto there - you have to grab a deb from Breezy's repos
[09:09] <innovagest> hi all
[09:09] <animato> hey :)
[09:09] <animato> hello, is there any application that will allow me to change icons for everything? i'm talking about using pngs, not icon sets
[09:09] <rak_> i ah, thanks madpilot
[09:10] <Madpilot> rak_, np. Hopefully Opera will come out with a real Dapper deb sometime soon
[09:10] <iiiears> What is the echo command to change the samba workgroup?      /etc/samba/samba.conf
[09:11] <iiiears> MSHOME to HOMEGROUP
[09:11] <marksworld> any expert ubuntu want to help me with a problem that nobody else has yet to solve?
[09:11] <Matthewv> Ar2No, set the -G flag to ssh
[09:12] <diazepam> guys i have debian installed and an iso image of ubuntu dapper on my hard drive.  How can i mount this image so that i can install ubuntu over my existing debian installation ???
[09:12] <marksworld> any expert ubuntu guru's want to help me with a problem?
[09:13] <KenSentMe> !tell marksworld about justask
[09:13] <Madpilot> marksworld, it would help if you gave some details - why not just ask your actual question?
[09:13] <tortho> marksworld, give us a clue about what it is...
[09:13] <Ar2No> Matthewv, command doesnt work sudo 'sermod -Ga ssh <username>'
[09:13] <Matthewv> diazepam, mount using mount command and set the -t option to lo
[09:13] <marksworld> ok sorry..
[09:13] <czer323> !anyone
[09:13] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[09:14] <czer323> I love this bot.  He says so many interesting things.
[09:14] <Matthewv> Ar2No, any error?
[09:14] <marksworld> ok my problem is this...currently it takes 30 seconds to open any application...ubuntu is running extremely slow when opening them...I have come to the conclusion I think it is hardware related because I have reinstalled ubuntu cleanly twice now with no success on fixing this problem
[09:14] <Madpilot> marksworld, what are your hardware stats? CPU/RAM/etc?
[09:14] <marksworld> 3.0ghz pentium 4...1gig ram...200gb harddrive
[09:15] <marksworld> intel graphics media accelerator
[09:15] <Madpilot> marksworld, with hardware like that, it shouldn't take much time at all to launch most apps...
[09:15] <marksworld> i know
[09:15] <marksworld> thats the problem
[09:15] <tortho> cant find a program for updating/installing packages by downloading on a usb memory stick... I have seen it befor.. some apt-get on a stick for debian/ubuntu
[09:15] <marksworld> 20-30 seconds to load firefox
[09:15] <marksworld> other applications loading extremely slow as well
[09:16] <marksworld> its very odd
[09:16] <marksworld> I think it has to do with this built-in graphics accelerator
[09:16] <Madpilot> marksworld, laptop?
[09:16] <marksworld> maybe ubuntu doesnt support it?
[09:16] <marksworld> no its a desktop
[09:16] <Ar2No> yes, unknown group a
[09:16] <Ar2No> Matthewv, yes, unknown group a
[09:17] <bubblenut> Hi, in a moment of monumental stupidity I deleted all my /boot/initrd images, anyone know where I can get replacements or fix this this?
[09:17] <marksworld> i bought this comp a year ago for business its a gateway 505gr
[09:17] <william__> Question:  When I goto Synaptic everything shouldnt say 5.10 correct?
[09:17] <Matthewv> Ar2No, try leaving off the a after -G
[09:17] <miles> whats the difference b/t 5.10 and 6.06, anything?
[09:18] <william__> Dapper Drake is 6.06 right?
[09:18] <Hobbsee> yes
[09:18] <miles> yea
[09:18] <diazepam> Matthewv - so one the image is mounted with the 'lo' option then what?
[09:18] <william__> my repositories are set for 5.10 some how
[09:18] <marksworld> madpilot: what could it possiblybe?
[09:18] <grasshopper> Guys! i'm really sorry but gnomebaker is simply inferior to K3B, i'm really sorry to have to say this
[09:18] <SillyRabbit> How can I tell what video driver / version I have ?
[09:18] <Madpilot> marksworld, I'm not sure - I know that Intel graphics can be problematic, though. Have you check the forums?
[09:19] <marksworld> madpilot: yes I have...I have been steaming over this issue for the past 12 hours
[09:19] <diazepam> Matthewv - and would it need to be on a seperate partition so that it didnt overwrite itself during installation?
[09:19] <marksworld> madpilot: can't find out what to do
[09:19] <Ar2No> Matthewv, yes I got it, now I can access ssh but no home directory... why is it?
[09:19] <william__> damn it those Utilitys EasyUbuntu broke my source list
[09:19] <william__> everything is set on 5.10 now
[09:19] <william__> :(
[09:20] <marksworld> I dont understand why it has to be this way..this is a brandnew computer..clean install of ubuntu..
[09:20] <Madpilot> willam, I'm not sure that E-U has been updated for Dapper yet
[09:20] <marksworld> my first experience with a linux distro install..
[09:20] <marksworld> its very frustrating..
[09:20] <Madpilot> marksworld, ouch. It should be working better than that, but I'm not sure what to suggest... sorry.
[09:21] <troy_s> marksworld:  ubuntu is still an infant, expect to do some serious learning for the first little bit.
[09:21] <marksworld> right..I understand..
[09:21] <Killaz> where can I find the ubuntu installation guide?
[09:21] <william__> Madpilot: do you know how I can fix my source lists back to 6.06
[09:21] <william__> ?
[09:21] <Matthewv> Ar2No, what do you mean by no home directory?
[09:21] <marksworld> does anyone have any suggestions for me?
[09:21] <Killaz> I looked into the Support page but couldnt find it
[09:21] <marksworld> to fix this problem
[09:21] <marksworld> if you have been following
[09:21] <troy_s> marksworld:  what exactly is your problem?
[09:22] <marksworld> applications loading takes around 30 seconds
[09:22] <Madpilot> william__, open a terminal, type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and copy the contents of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 into it
[09:22] <marksworld> overall moving around applications..
[09:22] <marksworld> its extremely slow
[09:22] <troy_s> hrm... what speed is the processor?
[09:22] <marksworld> the processor is a 3ghz pentium 4
[09:22] <troy_s> and you are using version 6.06?
[09:23] <marksworld> yes
[09:23] <marksworld> brand new clean install
[09:23] <Ar2No> Matthewv, Could not chdir to home directory /home/hartunnoo: No such file or directory <- after I add new user hartunnoo
[09:23] <marksworld> I think it is hardware related..
[09:23] <marksworld> with the intel graphics media accelerator 900
[09:23] <kholerabbi> Anyone know an .deb package for mldonkey or an easy way to install it?
[09:23] <marksworld> i might be wrong
[09:23] <troy_s> yes... sounds very hardware related.
[09:23] <tortho> troy_s and he has 1gb ram..
[09:23] <troy_s> try an hdparm -t
[09:23] <Ar2No> Matthewv,  I used command that sudo usermod -G ssh <username>
[09:23] <marksworld> ya also 1gbof ram
[09:24] <Matthewv> no Ar2No you need to add the -m command when you add a user to create a home dir
[09:24] <marksworld> 1 gb of ram
[09:24] <troy_s> sudo hdparm -T /dev/hda
[09:24] <troy_s> or sda as it might be
[09:24] <marksworld> what is hdparm?
[09:24] <iiiears> kholerabbi: man  checkinstall
[09:24] <troy_s> command line
[09:24] <william__> anyone had any luck with XGL?
[09:24] <kholerabbi> iiiears: could you explain? isn't that a package?
[09:25] <Ar2No> Matthewv,  can you please give me example
[09:25] <marksworld> troy_s , says /dev/hda:
[09:25] <marksworld> read() failed: Input/output error
[09:25] <Matthewv> useradd -G ssh -m hartunnoo
[09:25] <troy_s> do you have a sata hard disk or a standard ide?
[09:25] <Madpilot> marksworld, try /dev/hda1 instead
[09:27] <marksworld> says it wasnt there
[09:27] <troy_s> try /dev/sda
[09:27] <Matthewv> Ar2No, brb....
[09:27] <troy_s> same command
[09:27] <Ar2No> Matthewv, k
[09:27] <marksworld> /dev/sda:
[09:27] <marksworld>  Timing cached reads:   3020 MB in  2.01 seconds = 1499.73 MB/sec
[09:28] <marksworld> troy_s looks like it was sda
[09:28] <troy_s> well it isn't your hard disk
[09:28] <troy_s> very strange... have you tried a memory test onit?
[09:28] <marksworld> nope
[09:28] <troy_s> memtest86 and let it run for a few hours?
[09:28] <marksworld> i honestly think it has to do with the graphics card
[09:29] <troy_s> it seems that your hard disk is working fine.  what happens when you drag windows around?
[09:29] <marksworld> troy_s nothing really they just move around fine..
[09:29] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i install something from .tar.gz -file?
[09:29] <marksworld> troy_s but I dont know what they should really look like
[09:29] <troy_s> marksworld:  but loading stuffs seems slow eh?
[09:30] <SillyRabbit> How can I get OpenGL driver for my card ?
[09:30] <marksworld> troy_s yes extremely slow...
[09:30] <troy_s> marksworld:  how strange.
[09:30] <marksworld> troy_s takes 20-30 seconds to load firefox
[09:30] <marksworld> troy_s takes like 20 seconds for any application to load
[09:30] <troy_s> marksworld:  is that everything?  or just firefox?
[09:30] <marksworld> troy_s once it loads its fine
[09:30] <troy_s> cuz openoffice and firefox is slow as piss.
[09:30] <troy_s> are
[09:30] <marksworld> troy_s everythign
[09:31] <marksworld> xchat...any kind of game etc..
[09:31] <neutrinomass> Anybody with a Speedtouch modem ?
[09:31] <troy_s> marksworld:  the only thing I can think of is maybe test your memory, swap, or something else like that.
[09:31] <vinz> hi
[09:31] <troy_s> marksworld:  but it is very clearly hanging up under a small load.
[09:31] <marksworld> troy_s ya..ugh...
[09:31] <tortho> marksworld, try to add a frequency monitor on you panel, and see what happends when you start loading the program.
[09:32] <tortho> marksworld, how big is your swap partition?
[09:32] <troy_s> good idea
[09:32] <neutrinomass> marksworld: Do you have DMA enabled ?
[09:32] <troy_s> a system monitor.
[09:32] <troy_s> he has a sata
[09:32] <troy_s> so dma isn't an issue
[09:32] <troy_s> and shouldn't result in those kinds of lags.
[09:32] <iiiears> marksworld - did you create a swap parttion? - Can you type the output from "top" "users" into pastebin?
[09:32] <vinz> hi
[09:32] <neutrinomass> troy_s: Oh ok ...
[09:32] <waqas> Q: How do I change the display resolution of the ubuntu login screen?
[09:32] <marksworld> tortho, when I load an application the system monitor goes nuts up to 100% cpu...then goes down after its done
[09:33] <vinz> haloo poh!
[09:33] <marksworld> when loading any app it spikes the blue screen for a while then it goes right back down when it loads
[09:33] <marksworld> I never created a swap partition
[09:33] <marksworld> iiiears never created one..
[09:33] <tortho> marksworld, oops...
[09:33] <tortho> marksworld, did you partitioning yourself?
[09:34] <marksworld> tortho...no I did a clean install..let ubuntu do everything for me
[09:34] <marksworld> this entire install is clean
[09:34] <marksworld> on a brand new year old computer..
[09:34] <Madpilot> tortho, with 1Gb of RAM, he doesn't really need /swap - I've got 1Gb, no swap, and everything runs beautifully.
[09:34] <ehaase> what does it mean when i get the error message: "The Application nautilus has quit unexpectedly"?
[09:34] <ehaase> in gnome, that is...
[09:34] <troy_s> ehaase:  bug it crashed
[09:34] <tortho> Madpilot, ok.
[09:34] <troy_s> ehaase:  for one reason or another.
[09:35] <Madpilot> marksworld, loading most apps shouldn't spike your CPU like that...
[09:35] <dhana> hi!
[09:35] <troy_s> mad:  only briefly.
[09:35] <ehaase> troy_s: means the entire program crashed?
[09:35] <troy_s> marksworld:  you should try and post a bug report to www.launchpad.net/malone
[09:35] <marksworld> madpilot ya I know I am not sure why its doing this...Windows XP runs beautifully...dont know why linux is giving em issues
[09:35] <czer323> ehaase> you probably want to remove preference files for nautilus if it happens more often.
[09:35] <troy_s> marksworld:  sounds like a lower level hardware thing.
[09:35] <marksworld> troy_s ya...graphics card I bet
[09:35] <iiiears> Ah, - Okay. this may help you muddle through until you create one. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+swappiness&btnG=Google+Search
[09:36] <ndlovu> crap. I'm wanting to upgrade to dapper and downloaded the desktop iso. The wiki now says I should have downloaded the alternate iso. Is there then no way to use the desktop CD to upgrade? :-(
[09:36] <marksworld> what about installing like KDE
[09:36] <marksworld> going with kubuntu?
[09:36] <Madpilot> marksworld, KDE is slightly heavier than Gnome, in terms of CPU/graphics load...
[09:36] <tortho> marksworld, should'nt make any difference..
[09:37] <ehaase> czer323: well what does the error message mean?
[09:37] <marksworld> oh BTW
[09:37] <marksworld> I also get a HAL Failed to Initialize right on login
[09:37] <marksworld> but then it comes back later
[09:37] <joerack> hello, anyone up for a little hint?
[09:37] <czer323> ehaase> it's a generic messaging meaning that it had an error while running and decided to quit.
[09:38] <mcpowley> hmm, is there anyway to map my mousebutton back and forward keys to go forward and back in firefox like it does in windows? Right now they magnify images
[09:38] <marksworld> I am calling on the Linux Gods to fix my comp..
[09:38] <czer323> ehaase> If it happens frequently, then that's when I usually start investigating these type of issues.
[09:38] <tortho> marksworld, could you post your dmesg on www.pastebin.com ?
[09:38] <iiiears> marksworld - Did you get the link for tuning linux swappiness?
[09:38] <ehaase> czer323: what types of issues?
[09:38] <marksworld> tortho i dont know what pastebin.com is
[09:38] <tortho> marksworld, ehh /var/log/dmesg file
[09:38] <marksworld> iiiears no I didn't what should I use that for?
[09:38] <_mason> Can i launch Cedega in hi-priority? will that priority apply to the games running?
[09:39] <Madpilot> marksworld, a pastebin is a site you can put a chunk of text in, so you don't flood this channel
[09:39] <tortho> marksworld, pastebin.com is a web page for pasting files, log and other things, easy to use.
[09:39] <ehaase> czer323: i did a 'rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .nautilus' and i'm still getting the error message
[09:39] <iiiears> marksworld: Just guessing that the hal error is related to a missing swap file. - You might be able to do without a swapfile but it is much better to have one.
[09:39] <czer323> ehaase> your type of issue...  if it happens more often, then you could try it in a new user to see if it's preference file related.  if it happens there, then it could be related to the application itself or any plugins.
[09:39] <stanthecaddy> _mason: use "nice -n 20"
[09:40] <stanthecaddy> _mason: in front of your command to give it priority
[09:40] <tortho> iiiears, if he did let ubuntu partition... he should then have the swap part.
[09:40] <_mason> stanthecaddy: Will that apply to games launched from Cedega?
[09:41] <marksworld> ya not sure what thats all about
[09:41] <stanthecaddy> _mason: not sure with cedega specifically, but if you are launching a game's exe from command line with Cedega then yes
[09:41] <marksworld> how do I copy the entire /var/log/dmesg file?
[09:41] <tortho> from a commandline: "gedit /var/log/dmesg" then select, copy
[09:42] <waqas> Can someone please tell me how I change the display resolution of the ubuntu login screen?
[09:42] <tortho> marksworld, then paste it in the pastbin site, and give us the link to it here.
[09:42] <waqas> anyone?
[09:42] <iiiears> tortho - True, tho he said he didn't create one. - guess i need some more info to be helpful. - pasting the output from "top" *might* help maybe.
[09:42] <_mason> stanthecaddy: Thank you very much
[09:42] <stanthecaddy> _mason: no problem, good luck gaming :)
[09:43] <marksworld> gedit is just sitting there right now
[09:43] <_mason> Will do ;)
[09:43] <tortho> iiiears, it might, i'm just an amateur, and it looks like this problem is a hard nut, so everyone help :-)
[09:43] <iiiears> marksworld: http://ubuntu.pastein.com
[09:43] <Madpilot> marksworld, with a big chuck of text in it?
[09:43] <marksworld> ok got it
[09:43] <iiiears> tortho true
[09:44] <marksworld> it just took a long time to load
[09:44] <tortho> http://pastebin.com/
[09:44] <waqas> doesn't anyone know?
[09:44] <marksworld> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/764622
[09:45] <marksworld> there is URL for pastebin that was dmesg
[09:45] <joycetick> hi, my ubuntu dapper cd doesent get past booking the kernel, can anyone help?
[09:45] <tortho> marksworld, thanks well have a look
[09:45] <_mason> stanthecaddy: looking in System Monitor, All winex & cedega & x y z are nice 19, so i would say its working
[09:45] <Madpilot> marksworld, in terminal, type "top" - no quotation marks
[09:45] <stanthecaddy> _mason: sounds good to me
[09:46] <ic56> waqas: does the display resolution change after you login?
[09:46] <marksworld> madpilot ok did that
[09:46] <Madpilot> marksworld, once top is running, look in the %CPU & %MEM columns - anything hogging a big chunk?
[09:47] <marksworld> madpilot..nope..
[09:47] <marksworld> everything is below 1 %
[09:47] <deleted> hey, y'all.  while trying to upgrade to dapper, i encountered an error that killed apt-get dist-upgrade: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/764623
[09:47] <deleted> do i need to start the whole thing over?
[09:47] <deleted> it was downloading stuff for 2-4 hrs
[09:47] <Madpilot> marksworld, OK, but strange. That means nothing is hogging resources, at least
[09:48] <marksworld> madpilot..right programs don't necessarily RUN slow..which means its not a resource thign..
[09:48] <Madpilot> marksworld, right.
[09:48] <marksworld> madpilot..they just take 30 seconds to Load..any application..
[09:48] <ehaase> czer323: ok, just created a new user and started a gnome-session, and i still get the 'the application nautilus has quit unexpectedly' error
[09:49] <iiiears> marksworld: I didn't see a swap partition in there. the mount and fdisk -l commands will tell you morer about a swap partition if you created one. Else until your next install tune the swappiness to improve performance.
[09:49] <marksworld> iiiears this is a clean install I didn't mess with anything
[09:49] <czer323> ehaase> You seem to be able to cause the issue pretty reliably.  That's good.  Run the program from terminal and then crash it.  Try to pastebin the output.  I'm sure that'll help.
[09:49] <Madpilot> iiiears, he's got 1Gb of real RAM, he shouldn't need swap
[09:50] <Frogzoo> Madpilot: the whole world needs swap
[09:50] <ehaase> czer323: how do i capture the output? startx 2> output.txt?
[09:50] <tortho> marksworld, what usb hardware do you have connected?
[09:50] <iiiears> marksworld There are a lot of possibilities including a misbehaving application. Was hopeful to narrow the possibilities by one.
[09:50] <marksworld> iiiears fdisk -l doesnt display anythign
[09:51] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, not sure about the whole world, but this box w/ 1Gb RAM runs nicely without swap
[09:51] <deleted> what do you guys think?  am i screwed? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/764628
[09:51] <marksworld> tortho I do not have any usb hardware connected...there are a bunch of USB hookups in the front of this computer but I don't have any USB's connected
[09:51] <tortho> marksworld, not even a usb printer... / cardreader?
[09:51] <czer323> ehaase> Is X running now?  if yes, then just use a terminal and run nautilus.  if no, then this is probalby getting beyond my skill.  I'm still rather newbish.  I'm trying hard though.
[09:52] <yaaar> word
[09:52] <yaaar> anybody have a good spot to send me for info on a multihomed router?
[09:52] <yaaar> 2 uplinks and a nat range behind
[09:52] <kakashi34> hi all. i am trying to install ubuntu dapper drake (currently in the live cd). but when i  5/6 , that manually editing the parition table i see none of my current partitions in the table. infact it shows the disk as empty. when i select create it says all the the data will be lost. i don't want that. also fdisk show my partitions and the disk in systems -administration show the partition. what am i doing wrong ?
[09:52] <ehaase> czer323: ok, when i execute nautilus in a terminal, i get absolutely no output to standard output
[09:52] <marksworld> tortho there is nothing hooked up
[09:52] <ehaase> it crashes and i get brought back to the prompt
[09:52] <marksworld> tortho there is one on the network
[09:53] <halibut> Is it possible for me to upgrade to amarok 1.4 through synaptic?
[09:53] <joycetick> my ubuntu live cd doesent get past booting the kernel, anyone know why?
[09:53] <tortho> marksworld, ok, there was some error mess on the usb, and some about 1394 (firewire)..
[09:53] <marksworld> tortho but nothinginto my computer..just my speakers....my mosue and my keyboard..
[09:53] <chavo> halibut, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[09:53] <tortho> marksworld, could you also paste the "gedit /var/log/messages" file..
[09:54] <Ar2No> dapper is not compatible in hp proliant, I got error during booting the ubuntu, uncompressing linux.... ok, booting the kernel. [4294671.945000] .. MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to I0-APIC
[09:54] <czer323> ehaase> I'm sorry then, I'm not sure what else to do.  Better ask one of the big dawgs.  ;)
[09:54] <kakashi34> can somebody help please.
[09:55] <La_PaRCa> Can anyone verify a bug for me? Needed a dapper machine networked with a windows machine
[09:55] <marksworld> tortho, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/764633
[09:55] <tortho> marksworld, ill have a look.
[09:56] <ehaase> czer323: =( well thanks for your time anyways, i appreciate it
[09:56] <deleted> i would really appreciate it if someone familiar with the apt-get dist-upgrade process could take a look at this error for me and hopefully steer me in the right direction: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/764628
[09:56] <ic56> ehaase: try sudo grep -i nautilus /var/log/*
[09:56] <joycetick> my ubuntu live cd doesent get past booting the kernel, anyone know why?
[09:56] <Ar2No> does anybody know dapper is not compatible in hp proliant, I got error during booting the ubuntu, uncompressing linux.... ok, booting the kernel. [4294671.945000] .. MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to I0-APIC
[09:56] <ic56> ehaase: any error messages there?
[09:56] <threat> joycetick, did you sit on the CD? :P
[09:56] <joycetick> lol
[09:58] <Frogzoo> joycetick: try entering at the boot prompt 'linux acpi=off'
[09:58] <Anchoito21> anyone can help me
[09:58] <khalil> why does ctrl-alt-f1 not work
[09:58] <Anchoito21> hi?
[09:58] <oramadina> hi there
[09:58] <oramadina> i need help here
[09:59] <Frogzoo> Ar2No: try entering at the boot prompt 'linux acpi=off'
[09:59] <czer323> !justask
[09:59] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[09:59] <oramadina> i'm just download k3b from root, use apt-get and i run from root
[09:59] <Xyc0> HOLY COW, this is the best release yet!  I love it!
[09:59] <khalil> why does ctrl-alt-f1 not work ,can anyone help me please
[09:59] <ehaase> ic56: ok, thats really starnge, i rebooted and now it works fine... could it possible be bad sectors?
[10:00] <marksworld> :(
[10:00] <ehaase> ic56: i have reason to believe i have bad sectors on my other partition for the same harddrive on windows...
[10:00] <iiiears> Frogzoo - How many VARS are there for "Llnux command=  "?  (linux --help isn't defined.)
[10:00] <oramadina> after that i tried from aplication won't work
[10:00] <Frogzoo> oramadina: and? (also, please don't break up your posts over multiple lines)
[10:00] <Xyc0> An am online as I am installing ubuntu
[10:00] <Ar2No> Frogzoo, how to do that?
[10:00] <marksworld> tortho, any luck?
[10:00] <oramadina> Frogzoo oramadina: and? (also, please don't break up your posts over multiple lines) -> i'm sorry
[10:01] <ic56> ehaase: while things can get really hairy with bad drives, I don't think it likely that this is the case here.
[10:01] <ehaase> ic56: how come?
[10:01] <joycetick> Frogzoo: ok, what does that do?
[10:01] <tortho> marksworld, I'm an amateur, but reading through it, the only things it is complaining about is the 1394 and som usb.... as far as i can see...
[10:01] <ehaase> ic56: because i've troubleshooted the problem to that conclusion on my windows partition (same drive) and i'm going to do a complete scan disk tonight...
[10:02] <newcomplexlife1_> hello?
[10:02] <oramadina> anyone can help me how can i run k3b from aplication not from root?
[10:02] <La_PaRCa> !justask
[10:02] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[10:02] <tortho> marksworld, go to : https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/+package Report a bug, and supply the messages & dmnesg in the bug report..
[10:02] <newcomplexlife1_> i have a problem with samba
[10:02] <amarokker> Hi, i am trying to install e-17 on ubuntu- tried a guide on the forum earlier for breezy, and it messed up my system...can anyone point me to a sure-fire guide that'd work on a standard dapper installtion?
[10:02] <marksworld> ok thanks tortho
[10:03] <Frogzoo> iiiears: google 'linux kernel options' I found this: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/install-guide/ch-bootopts.html
[10:03] <zhangsen> amarokker, I've used the debian unstable e17 debs for dapper
[10:03] <zhangsen> it works
[10:03] <kakalto> when I boot my ubuntu dapper (ubuntu-base, no actual {k,x,ed,}ubuntu-desktop packages installed), the screen goes black after the grub screen
[10:03] <kakalto> but it boots fine!
[10:03] <newcomplexlife1_> why win can see my user directory if i share a especific directory in my desktop?
[10:04] <ic56> ehaase: I don't know the complete history so it's better I not comment.  Did the problem on the Windows side go away, the way it did in Ubuntu?
[10:04] <iiiears> Frogzoo - Great. - Thank You.
[10:04] <kakalto> however, I can't login, I can't do anything, the screen stays blank
[10:04] <amarokker> zhangsen: ok...thats nice to know- i'd appreciate if you can show me the lines that i'd need to paste on sources.list
[10:04] <kakalto> it could be something I messed with... but how can I figure out what the issue is?
[10:04] <Frogzoo> iiiears: it's pretty incomplete that list though - for instance, I don't see vga
[10:04] <newcomplexlife1_> why win can see my user directory if i share a especific directory in my desktop?
[10:04] <amarokker> zhangsen: is it through source-o-matic?
[10:04] <zhangsen> amarokker,  just wait a minute
[10:04] <kakalto> (I have previously booted without problems)
[10:04] <amarokker> sure. take your time :D
[10:05] <Frogzoo> iiiears: it's a good point - there 'should' be a complete list that matches the kernel
[10:05] <Killaz> should I go for shorewall of ipkungfu for my firewall?
[10:05] <mp3guy> I got a tv card with a remote. I got the card working 100%, how do I get the remote working? I'm told its input as /class/input/input3
[10:05] <oramadina> i can't use k3b from application, it's only run from root, can you help me please
[10:05] <newcomplexlife1_> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SAMBA!!!!!!!!!!
[10:05] <newcomplexlife1_> HELP!
[10:05] <mp3guy> newcomplexlife1_, whats the problem
[10:06] <newcomplexlife1_> ok
[10:06] <kakalto> newcomplexlife1_: your desktop is inside your user dir
[10:06] <deleted> whoa!  i've got a really interesting series of errors here: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[10:06] <newcomplexlife1_> why win can see my user directory if i share a especific directory in my desktop?
[10:06] <newcomplexlife1_> yep
[10:06] <ehaase> ic56: well, when i rebooted i stopped getting the nautilus has quit unexpectedly, but evolution now reports the quit unexpectedly error... what does that indicate?
[10:06] <attax|thana> hi folks
[10:06] <zhangsen> amarokker, try "deb http://www.soulmachine.net/debian unstable"
[10:06] <deleted> sorry about that.  click here for some really fascinating error messages: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/764628
[10:07] <zhangsen> after adding that to your sources.list
[10:07] <zhangsen> just update and install enlightment
[10:07] <attax|thana> i just upgraded to dapper and have a problem with my dual-screen setup
[10:07] <attax|thana> can someone help me with this?
[10:07] <Ar2No> can somebody help me with this ->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15236
[10:07] <notarealnick> Is this the where I ask newbieish questions?
[10:07] <amarokker> zhangsen: ok, thanks.
[10:07] <ic56> ehaase: I take it there was nothing relevant in /var/log ?
[10:07] <newcomplexlife1_> mp3guy, kakalto, how can i resove this?
[10:07] <ehaase> ic56: nope
[10:07] <selaiah> does anyone else think the GAIM window is a lot wider that it would need be?
[10:07] <zhangsen> amarokker, u'r welcome~
[10:08] <ehaase> ic56: i'm guessing bad memory now?
[10:08] <iiiears> Frogzoo - Nice link even if it is incomeplete for Ubuntu. (Feel the power! - wrinkles nose and laughs fiendishly. - rofl)
[10:08] <Eleaf> selaiah, you can scale it..
[10:08] <ehaase> ic56: since i'm getting random 'quit unexpectedly' errors?
[10:08] <Ar2No> newcomplexlife1_, what wrong with your samba?
[10:08] <mcpowley> hmm, is there anyway to map my mousebutton back and forward keys to go forward and back in firefox like it does in windows? Right now they magnify images
[10:08] <ehaase> ic56: ram memory
[10:08] <newcomplexlife1_> well
[10:08] <selaiah> how Eleal, i can make it wider but not less wide =p
[10:08] <newcomplexlife1_> in win can see my user directory
[10:08] <kholerabbi> Is there a way to make a cdrom drive under wine, which is actually a folder on linux?
[10:08] <Eleaf> selaiah, I just grab the corner and scale it in.
[10:08] <ic56> ehaase: yes, I'm thinking bad memory too.  Boot into memcheck and see if you get (un)lucky...
[10:08] <selaiah> Eleal, well i tried that ofc =P
[10:08] <ic56> (or is that memtest?)
[10:09] <newcomplexlife1_> im not sharing this directory
[10:09] <ehaase> ic56: ok, thanks for your time!
[10:09] <Gerbils> hello, any awstats experts in the house?
[10:09] <ic56> ehaase: yw.
[10:09] <Madpilot> notarealnick, this is for anyone's Ubuntu tech questions
[10:09] <ic56> !diskmounter-latest
[10:09] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ic56
[10:09] <newcomplexlife1_> Ar2NO do you understand?
[10:09] <notarealnick> Can anyone tell my why my sound has stopped working? Media files play with video but theres no sound. Sound used to be working though
[10:09] <zhangsen> amarokker, have a look at this guid http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Debian_unstable
[10:09] <zhangsen> you
[10:09] <zhangsen> have to set the preferences file
[10:09] <Gh|bli> ok, bookmrked it 'ready :D
[10:10] <kholerabbi> Anyone know how to get wine to emulate a cdrom drive for its programs?
[10:10] <newcomplexlife1_> i share a directory in my dsktop
[10:10] <kakalto> when I boot my ubuntu dapper (ubuntu-base, no actual {k,x,ed,}ubuntu-desktop packages installed), the screen goes black after the grub screen, it boots fine. But the screen stays blank on boot. My music-player-daemon plays the music fine, so it's obviously ok, but I can't type anything, and the screen is completely blank
[10:10] <Ar2No> newcomplexlife1_, what desktp? windows xp?
[10:10] <iiiears> kholerabbi: This page has a lot of helpful stuff in it. http://ubuntuguide.org/ (Be careful about the advice on adding repositories)
[10:10] <deleted> mcpowley: let me know if you figure out about those mouse buttons
[10:10] <newcomplexlife1_> win can see this directory and all my user directory, xp
[10:10] <pepsi> hello there
[10:10] <kakalto> iiiears: isn't that for hoary only?
[10:10] <ydnar> i have a very noob-ish question, but when you install something in linux, where does it install the program files to?
[10:11] <mcpowley> deleted: sure thing
[10:11] <iiiears> kakalto: Erm - (suddenly gets that nervous feeling) yes it is. (Waits to be smacked with a trout.
[10:11] <Ar2No> newcomplexlife1_, then what is actually the problem?
[10:11] <kakalto> kholerabbi: be careful at ubuntuguide.org. It is not made for newer ubunt.
[10:11] <attax|thana> may someone help me with my dual-screen problem after upgrading to dapper?
[10:11] <neutrinomass> Anybody with a speedtouch modem ?
[10:12] <kakalto> ydnar: /usr, I believe (usually)
[10:12] <Frogzoo> !tell kakalto about fixres
[10:12] <kakalto> ydnar: but some files may be installed to other locations
[10:12] <kakalto> cheers, Frogzoo
[10:12] <Frogzoo> kakalto: yw
[10:12] <ydnar> for example, if i installed azureus -- it would install into /usr most likely with it's config files in /home/user/
[10:12] <ydnar> ?
[10:13] <newcomplexlife1_> win can see my user directory and how i can remove this?
[10:13] <selaiah> Anyone else ever had a problem with their GAIM window not resizing horiziontonally to less than 216 pixels?
[10:13] <kakalto> ydnar: I'm not completely sure, but azureus may install to /opt - you can check on a site... might be http://packages.ubuntu.com (don't quote me on that). Search for azureus, and it should show where all the files go
[10:13] <ydnar> thank you very much kakalto
[10:14] <Ar2No> newcomplexlife1_, try to check your /etc/samba/samba.conf
[10:14] <attax|thana> my second screen remains blank after booting, went fine before the upgrade, same xorg.conf :(
[10:14] <newcomplexlife1_> is correct, but the problem continues
[10:15] <kakalto> ydnar: no problem. glad I'm actually correct this time :)
[10:15] <deleted> hey, have any laptop users noticed that going into suspend on ubuntu crashes firefox?
[10:15] <kakalto> ydnar: find it? http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=azureus&version=dapper&arch=all <--- list of files
[10:16] <Gerbils> Who knows what to do when awstats doesn't detect robots? My logs are combined and LevelForRobotsDetection=2..
[10:16] <kakalto> Frogzoo: completely different issue. that isn't gonna help
[10:16] <scheuri> hi al
[10:16] <scheuri> all
[10:16] <kakalto> scheuri, hi.
[10:17] <Frogzoo> kakalto: if the screen is black, it's probly cos all the mode lines are wrong
[10:17] <kholerabbi> kakalto: I had a look at ubuntuguide, but couldn't find what I wanted anyway.... I am running a program under wine, this program needs files from a cdrom, I have an iso image of the cd. I want to extract the iso content and make wine emulate the isocontent as a cdrom for the winprogram.. anybody help with that?
[10:17] <kakalto> Frogzoo: I look at the guide "for those with _low resolution_ issues in _hoary_....."
[10:18] <kakalto> Frogzoo: it goes on to give me commands to type... I'll need a kernel boot option, I believe, because I can't see anything to type. And I tried logging in and shutting down.... typing those commands didn't seem to work
[10:18] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: there's a virtual cd driver, which I can't recall the name of atm
[10:18] <Toma-> anyone playing savage on dapper? I cant get the darn thing to load without crashing X.
[10:18] <Frogzoo> kakalto: just try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:18] <NET||abuse> hey all, quick question, is there a synergy package in any of the dapper deb's?
[10:19] <kholerabbi> I tried looking at the winecfg > drives panel, is there a way through there?
[10:19] <NET||abuse> i've done a search and don't see it
[10:19] <scheuri> Toma-: what do you mean? you have S3-Chip?
[10:19] <oramadina> i can't use k3b from application, it's only run from root, can you help me please. i'm newbie. please help
[10:19] <Toma-> scheuri: no, the game savage :D
[10:19] <scheuri> NET||abuse: try "aptitude search synery" in CLI
[10:19] <scheuri> Toma-: ah, sorry...
[10:19] <kakalto> Frogzoo: I don't think you quite understand. I CANNOT SEE anything. I CANNOT put in any commands.
[10:19] <kakalto> Frogzoo: any ideas now?
[10:20] <NET||abuse> can't just now, setting up python
[10:20] <Frogzoo> kakalto: hit 'ctrl alt F1' & you'll get a terminal
[10:20] <NET||abuse> but i've searched with synergy gui and apt-cache search
[10:20] <scheuri> NET||abuse: ah, okay...
[10:21] <NET||abuse> is there a deb that i'd have to enable?
[10:21] <kakalto> Frogzoo: gimme a moment, but I'm not so sure that'll do the trick
[10:21] <NET||abuse> hmm, multiverse or something?
[10:21] <Intruder> Good morning all
[10:21] <oramadina> i can't use k3b from application, it's only run from root, please help
[10:21] <scheuri> NET||abuse: well, universe and multiverse are a good place to look for your package...just make sure you make an "aptitude update" before searching
[10:22] <gsuveg> re
[10:22] <scheuri> re
[10:22] <oramadina> z@morning:~$ k3b
[10:22] <oramadina> trying to create local folder /home/mercedez/.kde/socket-morning: Permission denied
[10:22] <oramadina> trying to create local folder /home/mercedez/.kde/socket-morning: Permission denied
[10:22] <oramadina> kdeinit: Aborting. bind() failed: : Permission denied
[10:22] <oramadina> Could not bind to socket '/home/mercedez/.kde/socket-morning/kdeinit__0'
[10:22] <oramadina> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.
[10:22] <gsuveg> opera -shared not works on dapper right ?
[10:22] <scheuri> oramadina: hi there...that is a known problem as far as I know...please visit ubuntuforums.org
[10:22] <scheuri> oramadina: there should be quite a lot of explanation...
[10:23] <sleeper> yo
[10:23] <Intruder> i have a small problem im sure one of you guys could help me with if so kind
[10:23] <sleeper> players
[10:23] <oramadina> scheuri oramadina: hi there...that is a known problem as far as I know...please visit ubuntuforums.org
[10:23] <oramadina> scheuri oramadina: there should be quite a lot of explanation... --> thank you!
[10:23] <scheuri> oramadina: welcome...
[10:23] <kakalto> Frogzoo: right... it worked, yeah... there's no output whatsoever between the grub spew and the login bit..
[10:23] <kakalto> and why would it switch tty's?
[10:24] <Intruder> anyone up for a bit of easy support newbie here lol
[10:24] <scheuri> Intruder: just ask, we try to help
[10:24] <Intruder> great
[10:24] <Frogzoo> kakalto: that's because your X server is misconfigured - the ttys display using the vga driver, not the driver X loads
[10:25] <kakalto> Frogzoo: X shouldn't be starting on startup anyway
[10:25] <Frogzoo> kakalto: now run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'     and hopefully all should be well
[10:25] <Killaz> uhm I have for now a 20Gb of HD.. how should I partition my HD.... / 10 Gb, 500 Mb /boot /swap 1Gb and /var the rest?
[10:25] <kakalto> Frogzoo: ok, thanks.
[10:25] <scheuri> Killaz: my recommendation would be to put /home on a own partition!
[10:26] <mnvl> hey there i have a pretty much fresh install of breezy. running totem produces the error message "Totem could not startup  The video output is in use by another application.."
[10:26] <Killaz> scheuri: why?
[10:26] <mnvl> "Please close other video applications or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector"
[10:26] <Subhuman> Killaz, so you can backup your work easier.
[10:27] <scheuri> Killaz: if something happens to / (failure or update of system) your /home should not be affected too much and your data stays: ATTENTION, regular backups are neccesary anyway
[10:27] <mnvl> I have no idea why or what the Multimedia Systems Selector is
[10:27] <Intruder> ok, i am VERY new to any ditro of linux and plumped for Ubunta server 5.10 (its to run a dc++ hub) anyway been running ok a few days install went well, but day before yestarday had a power cut since then display drives have gone to pot. Check device manager see`s the card but i cant alter resolution from 640 x 480.. Now im lost
[10:27] <Flannel> Killaz: usually when you reinstall, you don't want to lose everything in your home.  So you can reinstall "around" that partition, and mount it into place later
[10:27] <Frogzoo> Killaz: with such low space, I'd say swap=1gig, /=8gig, /home=remainder
[10:28] <Intruder> card is an old STB4400  btw
[10:28] <NET||abuse> that sucks, synaptic gui search for synergy didn't get result, apt-cache search synergy got it though
[10:28] <scheuri> Intruder: so you cannot start X (the graphical stuff) right?
[10:28] <Intruder> no thta fires up
[10:28] <Intruder> that
[10:28] <Intruder> but super big mode
[10:28] <scheuri> Intruder: ah, I see...the resolutions are the problem?
[10:28] <Intruder> yes
[10:28] <Intruder> wont change
[10:29] <Intruder> tryed buddy
[10:29] <Killaz> Ok .. this is just as start, later I can just copy /var or /home to another HD and mount those ...
[10:29] <Intruder> but was ok after install
[10:29] <ashridah> hey guys. is there any way to force ubuntu to install grub onto a particular drive during installation? it keeps installing it onto the wrong drive which isn't the primary boot drive :)
[10:29] <Guard] [an> hi, performed distupgrade yesterday. right click + open in browser does not work in xchat. how could i fix it ?
[10:29] <scheuri> Intruder: that very likely needs to be checked on a configuration file called xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[10:30] <ashridah> i suppose i can mount it and chroot into it to rerun grub's setup
[10:30] <Frogzoo> Killaz:  a separate /boot is unnecessary imo,  separating /var is worthwhile, say 2gig
[10:30] <Intruder> hmm
[10:30] <Intruder> ok sorry but how do i do that
[10:30] <Intruder> <---feeling stupid
[10:30] <scheuri> tell Intruder about pastebin
[10:30] <scheuri> !pastebin
[10:30] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[10:31] <scheuri> intruder: paste the content of that file there...and offer it to us for checking
[10:31] <Intruder> ok
[10:31] <scheuri> Intruder: okay...now...how to get that content....are yo able to open a editor of some kind and able to open text files?
[10:31] <Intruder> yes im ok with textfiles
[10:31] <Intruder> edit
[10:31] <Intruder> gedit#
[10:32] <Intruder> no such directory
[10:32] <scheuri> Intruder: okay, open the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <Intruder> looked for this before
[10:32] <scheuri> Intruder: its a capital X...
[10:33] <Intruder> cd /etc/X11 nothing
[10:33] <Intruder> ahh i see it
[10:34] <scheuri> Intruder: ah...okay...:)
[10:34] <Gerbils> Any awstats experts in the house?
[10:35] <Intruder> hmmm
[10:35] <Intruder> i see it
[10:35] <Intruder> but
[10:35] <kakalto> why does dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg add wacom tablet things into the xorg.conf by default?
[10:35] <Intruder> get no such directory
[10:35] <scheuri> Intruder: hmmm...funny...can you open a console?
[10:35] <Intruder> even tryed to copy and paste name from directory tree
[10:36] <Intruder> im in a console
[10:36] <Intruder> thats how im doing it
[10:36] <scheuri> Intruder: ah, okay...try type "sudo more /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:36] <rpedro> Guard] [an: see if default browser is set in System>>Preferences>>Preferred Applications
[10:36] <bigfoot1> how do i eject the cdrom?
[10:37] <Intruder> ok browses ok
[10:37] <scheuri> bigfoot1: you have to UNMOUNT it first...right-click on symbol on desktop
[10:37] <Killaz> Frogzoo: I realize..this is not going to be a worstation but a server... so I dont think /home is so important is it?
[10:37] <scheuri> Intruder: paste the content to pastebin
[10:37] <bigfoot1> scheuri: i tried "eject" in terminal and it worked. i didn't have to do any "unmount"ing
[10:38] <scheuri> Killaz: aye, if it is a server WITHOUT any userdate...it is...what kind of server is it?
[10:38] <Killaz> workstation*
[10:38] <Intruder> ok just msn it over on another machine
[10:38] <bigfoot1> scheuri: did i do things the wrong way?
[10:38] <scheuri> bigfoot1: try "umount /media/cdrom"
[10:38] <Guard] [an> rpedro : Preferred Applications settings are ok
[10:38] <bigfoot1> scheuri: well i already did "eject" and it worked.
[10:38] <scheuri> bigfoot1: eject is possible after umont as far as I know
[10:38] <Killaz> well I'm thinking about a LAMP server/File Server where I can just put temporarly some files..
[10:38] <bigfoot1> my question is: what's the difference betewwen what i did and what you are telling me to do?
[10:38] <kakalto> scheuri: 'eject' automatically umounts it first
[10:39] <deleted> i'm having problems upgradint to dapper with apt-get dist-upgrade.  errors while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-75dpi_6.8.2.1-5_all.deb.  anyone seen this?
[10:39] <scheuri> kakalto: oh, okay...didnt know
[10:39] <Killaz> LAMP server, cause I want a dev server....
[10:39] <jahshua> heya everyone
[10:39] <scheuri> bigfoot1: to explain umount would take quite a while...hope you dont mind if Ipoint out google for this issue
[10:39] <joycetick> Frogzoo: linux acpi=off' didnet work
[10:39] <kakalto> scheuri: well, now you do :)
[10:39] <jahshua> anyone here use Tvtime at all ?
[10:39] <scheuri> kakalto: thanks...;)
[10:39] <selaiah> Is it possible to install .rpm files?
[10:39] <selaiah> And is it adviseable? =D
[10:40] <kakalto> selaiah: you can use 'alien', I believe
[10:40] <Killaz> and FileServer for future place to put files.... on a central place
[10:40] <scheuri> Killaz: well, so you have costumers using that server as webserver? databaseserver? mailserver?
[10:40] <leenks> bigfoot1: eject will always try and umount before it ejects
[10:40] <Flannel> Killaz: you can either download the server ISO, which will have a LAMP server option at the install, or convert a full desktop install, using this:
[10:40] <gfunk> anone know if the ainet wieless cad works with ubuntu?
[10:40] <Flannel> !lamp
[10:40] <kakalto> selaiah: but usually if there's an rpm, there's a deb
[10:40] <scheuri> selaiah: yes and no...;)
[10:40] <gfunk> card1
[10:40] <Flannel> !tell Killaz about lamp
[10:40] <Killaz> scheuri: nope... its for personal use: development....
[10:40] <Intruder> ok here we go.......
[10:40] <scheuri> Killaz: ah, okay...then home is not that important
[10:40] <Flannel> selaiah: it's not advisable
[10:40] <selaiah> well I'm trying to install the newest GAIM
[10:40] <selaiah> and i can only see rpm's atm
[10:41] <Flannel> what version is the newest?
[10:41] <deleted> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-75dpi_6.8.2.1-5_all.deb (--unpack):
[10:41] <deleted>  corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[10:41] <scheuri> selaiah: is your software not available as .deb?
[10:41] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> Hi, All. I'm trying to set the trip points on my fan, so it doesn't always sound like a washing machine while I'm working. I enter the command
[10:41] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> sudo echo 105:76:67:57:0 > /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points
[10:41] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> And get back the error "Permission denied". How can I write the new trip points for the fan(s)
[10:41] <selaiah> GAIM 2.0beta3
[10:41] <Killaz> Flannel: I know but still I want to know how to setup the filesystem efficiently as possible..
[10:41] <makko> why can't i connect to the x11 server in a root konsole (after i run "sudo konsole")? after i run "sudo konsole", i cannot open any x11 app from that konsole; but, after i run "sudo xterm", i can run any x11 app. how do you explain that? it doesn't look like a permissions issue to me. is it a kde issue?
[10:41] <selaiah> Seems it isnt scheuri
[10:41] <Intruder> Opps
[10:41] <kakalto> selaiah: ah. well, that's not necessarily advisable... if it has newer dependancies than those in the dapper repositories, all hell could break loose :S
[10:41] <scheuri> hi Intruder ;)
[10:41] <makko> selaiah: what about gaim 2.0beta3
[10:41] <Intruder> hello bud
[10:41] <leenks> selaiah: http://gaim.darwinports.org ?
[10:41] <jahshua> hey guys im getting this error when trying to start Tvtime  " xvoutput: Received X error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) " im using a Ati x1600 graphics card, can anyone help me out please?
[10:41] <makko> selaiah: (i just joined)
[10:42] <Killaz> Flannel: I'm alreadfy installing the lamp server
[10:42] <selaiah> makko: Am gonna install it =p0
[10:42] <kakalto> makko: he's trying to get the newest one installed.
[10:42] <Intruder> was that not ment to happen or u see it ok?
[10:42] <gfunk> Does AnyOne Know If The Airnet Wireless Card Is Supported?!?
[10:42] <leenks> selaiah: http://gaim.darwinports.com even
[10:42] <Killaz> scheuri: ok.... thnx for the tips
[10:42] <selaiah> Leenks: That website doesnt exist here
[10:42] <scheuri> Intruder: beg your pardon...was what not ment to happen?
[10:42] <Flannel> Killaz: alright.  So, you just need to install the rest of the things.
[10:42] <selaiah> leenks, that does, thanks =D
[10:42] <scheuri> Killaz: welcome
[10:42] <makko> leenks, kakalto: is there any gaim 2.0 beta 3 for ubuntu?
[10:42] <Intruder> me getting dropped for posting so many lines :S
[10:43] <scheuri> Intruder: ah...you should NOT post in here...use pastbin
[10:43] <scheuri> !pastebin
[10:43] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[10:43] <mike> Y helo Thar. Which CD do i want for a desktop install? All i see is Desktop CD for live testing or Server CD for permanent install.
[10:43] <Intruder> ahh bum
[10:43] <Intruder> thx m8 :D
[10:43] <scheuri> Intruder: no worries...
[10:43] <kakalto> makko: I'm not sure it's "officially" available, but you can likely just install a deb file of it
[10:43] <selaiah> makko: Theres some howtos on the topic in the forum, some people have it running nicely
[10:43] <CrippsFX> makko, if there isn't you can (easily) make a package ...
[10:43] <KenSentMe> How do i change the language of my desktop?
[10:44] <selaiah> So is it adviseable i install this darwinports prog?
[10:44] <Intruder> !pastebin
[10:44] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[10:44] <pepsi> mike: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ is what i use to figure out what's all available :)
[10:44] <leenks> makko: not that I know of; you could probably compile from source, or use Adium etc
[10:45] <kakalto> why does dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg add wacom tablet things into the xorg.conf by default?
[10:45] <leenks> selaiah: sorry, my bad - I thought this was #macosx ;-)
[10:45] <selaiah> :P
[10:45] <selaiah> Will a i386 deb work on my AMD64?
[10:45] <rpedro> KenSentMe: you can select on the gdm login screen
[10:46] <scheuri> selaiah: do you have ubuntu64'
[10:46] <selaiah> yes
[10:46] <scheuri> selaiah: then I am not sure about this
[10:46] <ashridah> hrm. question: XFS and amd64. does that work?
[10:46] <Intruder> ok finally sussed it lol
[10:46] <Intruder> its on the site :D
[10:46] <scheuri> Intruder: ;)
[10:46] <Intruder> yes m8
[10:46] <scheuri> Intruder: now you have to tell us the link...:)
[10:46] <Intruder> lol
[10:46] <Intruder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15237
[10:46] <mike> pepsi, i still don't understand it lol
[10:47] <CrippsFX> selaiah, it is possible to get 32 bit progs running on ubuntu64
[10:47] <ashridah> leenks: i'm in an adventurous mood, and debian's amd64 support is a bit further behind :)
[10:47] <watson5401> 444444
[10:47] <Intruder> dont use irc alot either does it show ?? :S
[10:47] <CrippsFX> selaiah, I just don't know how to do it ;)
[10:47] <KenSentMe> rpedro: i know what's wrong. just installed my system but with no network connection, so my preferred lang is not downloaded yet
[10:47] <NET||abuse> feckin pants, stupid network here keeps switching connections
[10:47] <scheuri> Intruder: keep that url in mind in case I cant help you...you may ask others
[10:47] <Intruder> ok buddy
[10:47] <selaiah> haha thanks anyway :D
[10:47] <leenks> ashridah: I switched back to ubuntu32 - there wasn't much advantage in using ubuntu64 for me, I only have 2GB RAM anyway
[10:48] <mike> what cd do i want for a full dapper desktop install? im confused by the ISO's that are available for download
[10:48] <sugoruyo> hi all
[10:48] <Intruder> if it was wintendo i would be ok
[10:48] <sleeper> I am really happy with the new ubuntu.. its very nice
[10:48] <sleeper> easy to install
[10:48] <sleeper> fast
[10:48] <CrippsFX> leenks, I went back to 32 bit too ... but that was so that I could use my wireless card.
[10:48] <scheuri> Intruder: no worries, you will get used to it quickly...;)
[10:48] <mike> sleeper, what ISO did you download for the install?
[10:48] <rpedro> KenSentMe: some of the language packages are on the cd, you can install them with System>>Administration>>Language Support
[10:48] <scheuri> Intruder: hmmm...so far I cant see a reason why it should not work...
[10:48] <sleeper> mike:  6.06 desktop
[10:49] <scheuri> Intruder: okay, try ctrl-alt-backspache to restart X-server..
[10:49] <mike> sleeper, so the desktop cd is the one i need to get
[10:49] <KenSentMe> rpedro: thanx, but i've got my internet connection now
[10:49] <mike> thank you muchly
[10:49] <ashridah> so yeah, anyway. XFS and amd64. no go? because i just tried it, and it hung on 'waiting for root filesystem'
[10:49] <Intruder> ok
[10:49] <rpedro> KenSentMe: ?
[10:49] <KenSentMe> rpedro: so i can also download everything
[10:49] <rpedro> KenSentMe: oh, ok
[10:50] <selaiah> Did anyone say automake is bad to use btw?
[10:50] <kakalto> which package is dpkg-reconfigure part of?
[10:50] <sugoruyo> i need some help
[10:50] <Intruder> ok
[10:50] <kakalto> just dpkg?
[10:50] <scheuri> Intruder: any progress?
[10:50] <Intruder> well
[10:50] <kakalto> sugoruyo: what flavour of help do you want?
[10:50] <Intruder> did as you said then asked for password now i have a terminal window
[10:51] <Intruder> username and password
[10:51] <Intruder> should i have logged in as root or intruder i logged as intruder
[10:51] <scheuri> Intruder: terminalwindow? you mean black screen with white characters or a picture asking for pw and username
[10:51] <makko> leenks: what is adium?
[10:51] <Intruder> yes dos window
[10:51] <Intruder> black screen and white writing
[10:52] <makko> kakalto: where do i find a deb file of it?
[10:52] <scheuri> Intruder: okay...then type the following "sudo startx"
[10:52] <Intruder> ok
[10:52] <mattm591> hi, how can i get the alsa libraries?
[10:52] <Intruder> command not found
[10:52] <kestas> hey
[10:52] <sugoruyo> sound control
[10:52] <kakalto> makko: of...?
[10:52] <sugoruyo> it doesn't change the volume
[10:52] <kakalto> makko: GAIM 2b3?
[10:53] <kestas> how do I get rid of this annoying side bar in xchat?
[10:53] <scheuri> Intruder: riiight...try "sudo kdm" or "sudo gmd"...depending on your installation on of those should be installed
[10:53] <makko> kakalto: yes
[10:53] <kakalto> sugoruyo: are you afraid of the command line or not?
[10:53] <Intruder> nope
[10:53] <Intruder> none m8
[10:53] <Intruder> reboot it?
[10:53] <scheuri> Intruder: uuuh? well...yes...try that then...last ressort...:)
[10:53] <Intruder> will reboot ok
[10:54] <scheuri> Intruder: okay...
[10:54] <mattm591> can anyone help me with my problems getting lirc to setup
[10:54] <Intruder> but still wrong resolution rebooting now
[10:54] <scheuri> Intruder: make sure you shutdown properly
[10:54] <Intruder> i have
[10:54] <scheuri> Intruder: good...
[10:54] <Intruder> Ctrl Alt Del
[10:54] <Intruder> worked that out :D
[10:54] <sugoruyo> no
[10:54] <scheuri> Intruder: ;)
[10:54] <sugoruyo> i'm just not too familiar with it
[10:55] <mattm591> it complains that i need to have the alsa libraries and drivers installed
[10:55] <kakalto> makko: not sure, google it?
[10:55] <sugoruyo> kakalto: what do you have in mind?
[10:55] <mattm591> and im fairly sure i have the drivers cus i use alsa for my soundcard and it comes with ubunut, but how can i get the libraries? i looked in synaptic but cant seem to find it there
[10:56] <kakalto> sugoruyo: try 'alsamixer' from the command line, then see if the 'master' and/or 'pcm' volumes are muted, and see if the volume of them is down
[10:56] <Intruder> almost booted i even tryed to replace card with another Oooo that was a nest of vipers too but i know this card works
[10:56] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> Does anyone have any experience with the acpi interface, and in particular setting fan trip points, under Dapper Drake?
[10:56] <Intruder> ok logged in
[10:56] <sugoruyo> kakalto: the problem is i can't mute or lower the sound volume :D
[10:56] <scheuri> Intruder: do not replace card just yet...it seems to be software or driver failure...no hardware problem
[10:56] <Intruder> i agree
[10:56] <kakalto> sugoruyo: you do have sound, correct?
[10:56] <sugoruyo> i hear sound and all i just can't change the volume
[10:57] <scheuri> Intruder: other hardware means other driver that needs to be put into configuration file to make it work
[10:57] <Intruder> something corrupted when we had power cut i reckon
[10:57] <sugoruyo> i'm using a vaio
[10:57] <kakalto> sugoruyo: "can't change"... does that mean the slider won't move?
[10:57] <scheuri> Intruder: is it still booting?
[10:57] <sugoruyo> it moves to no effect
[10:57] <Intruder> no
[10:57] <Intruder> logged in
[10:57] <kakalto> sugoruyo: 'alsamixer' allows for changing volumes
[10:57] <Intruder> 540 x 480 still
[10:57] <scheuri> Intruder: console login?
[10:57] <Intruder> 640
[10:57] <sugoruyo> i'm on a vaio laptop with a weird sony acpi and that could be the source of this
[10:57] <scheuri> Intruder: or you had some sort of graphic log in?
[10:58] <kakalto> sugoruyo: sadly, I don't actually use gnome/ubuntu, so I can't help you too much. But keep trying in this channel, be bold, you may get an answer yet :)
[10:58] <Intruder> no m8 verlihub only thing on it
[10:58] <kakalto> sugoruyo: if all else fails, there's always google, right?
[10:58] <makko> from what you know, is this one safe: http://www.debuntu.org/2006/04/19/31-gaim-200beta3-deb-package-for-ubuntu-dapper/
[10:58] <sugoruyo> well google didn't help much
[10:58] <scheuri> Intruder: ah, wait a second!!! type "sudo aptitude search gnome-desktop" and tell me what letter there is in front
[10:58] <Intruder> geoip sql libs gcc
[10:59] <Intruder> ok
[10:59] <huhn> hey
[10:59] <mnvl> what's a good repository for 'extras' like dvdcss? i have seen 'seveas', plf and hoary-extras (backports?) ??
[10:59] <scheuri> Intruder: uh, you can leave that sudo part...you can search as normal user to
[10:59] <scheuri> too
[10:59] <Seveas> mnvl, the first two are ok, the last not
[10:59] <huhn> why is it that the old 5.10 ubuntu was a whole dvd to download and that the new 6.06 stuff is just a cd?
[10:59] <huhn> I'm confused.
[10:59] <scheuri> huhn: DVD will be available too...as far as I know
[11:00] <huhn> dvd comes with all the programs in it, doesn't it?
[11:00] <sugoruyo> kakalto: ok i got an idea
[11:00] <scheuri> huhn: should...
[11:00] <kakalto> sugoruyo: yeah?
[11:00] <sugoruyo> i open alsamixer
[11:00] <huhn> so if I'm a newbie (like me) I should better be waiting for the dvd
[11:00] <sugoruyo> and change various sliders
[11:00] <huhn> ?
[11:00] <sugoruyo> so i notice PCM does the job
[11:00] <smacky_wolf> Anyone got any pointers for getting proper 3d rendering working in Dapper?
[11:00] <Intruder> hmm
[11:00] <smacky_wolf> Nvidia being my drivers.
[11:00] <huhn> I mean I got the old 5.10 stuff. If I install that, can I upgrade later?
[11:00] <scheuri> huhn: not really...only if you have bad internet coonnection
[11:01] <sugoruyo> then i try the slider and i see it moves the alsamixer's headphones slider
[11:01] <Intruder> i get something that reads vipip going down
[11:01] <Intruder> looks like options?
[11:01] <huhn> would you suggest using the 5.10 or the new 6.06 one
[11:01] <kakalto> makko: suppose ya won't know till ya try :)
[11:01] <huhn> and where can I find a torrent download of it?
[11:01] <gfunk> dr. williams?
[11:01] <sugoruyo> so i guess it's now a matter of somehow getting the panel's slider to change the right thing
[11:01] <Intruder> with this command aptitude search gnome-desktop
[11:01] <sugoruyo> thank god for banhsee and DAAP :P
[11:01] <kakalto> sugoruyo: ah, yeah, sounds good.
[11:01] <huhn> ?download?
[11:01] <scheuri> Intruder: not really...if you are "aptitude search gnome-desktop" you should see a list of packages...
[11:02] <fr3drik> huhn: www.ubuntu.com/download ?
[11:02] <Intruder> isee V  gnome desktop   -
[11:02] <sugoruyo> kakalto: thx
[11:02] <scheuri> Intruder: and gnome-desktop-data?
[11:02] <Intruder> yes
[11:02] <Intruder> just putting that
[11:02] <scheuri> Intruder: is it a i or a p?
[11:02] <kakalto> sugoruyo: no problem :)
[11:02] <Intruder> data is i
[11:03] <huhn> ah I found them torrents. just a bit difficult to see them in a list of files whose names are so long that the actual filetipe is clipped of
[11:03] <Intruder> top to bottom is v i p i p
[11:03] <scheuri> Intruder: okay, search for gdm now
[11:04] <Intruder> ok
[11:04] <kakalto> huhn: yeah, bit of an issue, that
[11:04] <huhn> well I sorted it out
[11:04] <huhn> thanks
[11:04] <Intruder> top to bottom i p v
[11:05] <mluu510> guys, how do i change my resolution to 1650x1055? ubuntu only seem to go up 1280x1024
[11:05] <Intruder> ok
[11:05] <mnvl> thanx Seveas i am using yours now (a mirror)
[11:05] <scheuri> Intruder: the package gdm itself hast what?
[11:05] <mluu510> 1680x1050*
[11:05] <Intruder> display manager i
[11:05] <Intruder> themes is p  gdm2 v
[11:05] <Intruder> so gdm is i
[11:06] <scheuri> Intruder: okay...just to clarify...you want graphical window to work on, right? you dont want to put your console to higher resolution
[11:06] <alsa> how can i change access in command line for a user to a super user ?
[11:06] <Intruder> they are both same m8
[11:06] <Intruder> buggered
[11:06] <Ng> alsa: sudo adduser someusername admin
[11:06] <Intruder> want it how it was when i installed it
[11:06] <alsa> even if the user already exists
[11:07] <scheuri> Intruder: well, the console (black screen with white characters) cant be more than 640x480 as far as I know
[11:07] <Intruder> no
[11:07] <Intruder> gui m8
[11:07] <alsa> Ng,  even if the user already exists ?
[11:07] <Intruder> even a terminal window is huge
[11:07] <[nige] > anyone know ati drivers + big desktop are working properly yet?
[11:07] <H0ddi> scheuri: With VESA it can
[11:07] <Intruder> cant read device manager half chopped off
[11:08] <Intruder> with me
[11:08] <scheuri> Intruder: and H0ddi maybe you both can determine what is wrong...I do have reached my limits soon
[11:08] <HumanPrototype> you want the console to be at a bigger resolution then you can add vga=794 to the kernel line in /boot/grub/sources.lst
[11:08] <Intruder> change ur screen resoultion to 640 x 480
[11:08] <scheuri> Intruder: H0ddi...the xorg of Intruder looks fine to me, but gui doesnt start with more than 640x480
[11:08] <Intruder> then imagine u cant change it
[11:08] <Intruder> vola my problem
[11:09] <Intruder> with me guys
[11:09] <scheuri> Intruder: sorry for the misunderstand...:)
[11:09] <Intruder> np m8
[11:09] <scheuri> misunterstanding
[11:09] <selaiah> What do i need to install to enable "gmake" and "make" commands?
[11:09] <Intruder> im prob explaining badly
[11:09] <HumanPrototype> selaiah: try build-essential?
[11:09] <scheuri> Intruder: can you paste the URL to all of us again?
[11:09] <Fujitsu> selaiah, please install build-essential.
[11:09] <Intruder> yes
[11:09] <Intruder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15237
[11:09] <selaiah> thanks guys!
[11:10] <smacky_wolf> Anyone got any pointers for getting proper 3d rendering working in Dapper? I use an Nvidia chipst, and i set it up right, accleration seems broken, though
[11:10] <josean> join #ubuntu-es
[11:10] <HumanPrototype> smacky_wolf: have you installed the latest nvidia drivers?
[11:10] <scheuri> Intruder: to me, your config-file looks fine...you have nvidia-card, haven't you?
[11:10] <Timmy_> thats gnus to me, ahahahaha.......ha......
[11:10] <ashridah> okay this is beginning to pique my interest. just how long should i be "Waiting for root file system..." ?
[11:10] <Intruder> its as if device driver is not install correctly
[11:10] <smacky_wolf> HumanPrototype, jjust the drivers availabe via apt
[11:10] <ashridah> and just what is it waiting for the root filesystem to do?
[11:10] <Intruder> yes its an old STB 4400
[11:10] <iiiears> Where is the realplayer binary installed. Right Clicking on the video file opens the file association dialog.
[11:11] <HumanPrototype> smacky_wolf: the defaults or the "nvidia-glx" package?
[11:11] <Intruder> was ok after install till power-cut
[11:11] <ashridah> the livecd installer sure didn't have trouble finding it
[11:11] <Intruder> :-(
[11:11] <bigfoot1> leenks: ok. so i don't need to remember the hard-to-remember command "umount".
[11:11] <smacky_wolf> nvidia-glx
[11:11] <iiiears> Totem is the default player isn't able to play the file.
[11:11] <scheuri> Intruder: hmmm...I am really out of ideas right now...seems driver is okay (right choosen)...confg file with resolution listed seems fine too
[11:11] <Intruder> yup
[11:11] <HumanPrototype> smacky_wolf: have you run "nvidia-glx-config enable"?
[11:11] <Intruder> all looks ok in device manager too
[11:12] <smacky_wolf> I get the nvidia splash when I boot.
[11:12] <scheuri> Intruder: I am sorry...
[11:12] <Intruder> dont worry m8 :D
[11:12] <temery> hi
[11:12] <kaning> how can i install Ruby on Rails on dapper
[11:12] <temery> bye
[11:12] <HumanPrototype> smacky_wolf: oh ok then - should all be ok then, what isnt working?
[11:12] <Intruder> thx for your help
[11:12] <H0ddi> Intruder: /var/log/Xorg.0.log might have the answer
[11:12] <scheuri> Intruder: try asking in general again, maybe someone joined in who has a clue
[11:13] <smacky_wolf> HumanPrototype,  anything game related (Pydance, amagedatron) alags majorly.
[11:13] <Intruder> H0ddi  would it make any sense to you
[11:13] <Intruder> i can paste it up
[11:13] <HumanPrototype> smacky_wolf: what graphics card do you have?
[11:13] <H0ddi> Wouldn't hurt
[11:13] <kaning> Does anyone know how to install Ruby On Rails on Drake
[11:13] <Intruder> ok bud 2 mins
[11:13] <smacky_wolf> errr... 4400 builtin with 128mb shared ram
[11:13] <Intruder> yes
[11:13] <Intruder> 1gb of ram
[11:14] <Intruder> like i say did work fine till other day
[11:14] <Intruder> getting file for u now
[11:14] <smacky_wolf> HumanPrototype, I'm just thinking it should be running better, because before I had the sire drivers installed, but I was using Breezy
[11:14] <C_REATiVE_> re
[11:14] <iiiears> It might be easier for me to edit a text file and change the app associated with .mov files. What configuration file controls it?
[11:15] <smacky_wolf> iiiears, hwo did you install your codecs?
[11:15] <HumanPrototype> smacky_wolf: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[11:15] <kaning> can anyone help here about the question on Ruby on Rails
[11:15] <iiiears> I installed RealPlayer and Totem still opens for mov files./
[11:16] <iiiears> ffmpg didn't cut through the ridiculous DRM
[11:16] <teufler> hi there
[11:16] <scheuri> h
[11:16] <scheuri> hi
[11:16] <kaning> nevermind i found it
[11:16] <ashridah> hrm. first glance claims that 'evms_activate' is the fix, but isn't that for volume management? i didn't setup LVM or anything
[11:16] <smacky_wolf> HumanPrototype, thank you =3
[11:17] <teufler> i've got a problme to insall "this" lib for encrypted dvd's, can u help me?
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> What is this ?
[11:18] <teufler> libdvdcss ;)
[11:18] <scheuri> teufler: have you aqcuired the said lib?
[11:18] <scheuri> teufler: or...are you in hold of said lib in form of a .deb?
[11:18] <Intruder> ok H0ddi http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15238
[11:19] <teufler> no
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> teufler: sudo aptitude install libdvdread3 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[11:19] <iiiears> There has to be an easy configuration edit ubuntu for which app opens files. Do you know what file?
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> teufler: (multiverse must be enabled)
[11:19] <iiiears> How do i find where Realplayer was installed?
[11:20] <HumanPrototype> iiiears: locate RealPlayer
[11:20] <teufler> You need to have debhelper, dpkg-dev and fakeroot installed.
[11:20] <teufler> hm
[11:20] <HumanPrototype> iiiears: or which RealPlayer
[11:21] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> Does anyone here have any experience with the acpi interface, and in particular, setting fan trip_points?
[11:21] <iiiears> HumanPrototype: Eureka! - Thank You. :)
[11:22] <iiiears> "Which" didn't work. <shugs>
[11:22] <kakalto> I previously did not have 'usplash' in the boot runlevel, as I didn't want it to show itself. I added it temporarily to try something, then removed it again, but it is still running on bootup! any ideas how to fix this?
[11:23] <H0ddi> Intruder: What type of monitor do you have?
[11:23] <teufler> scheuri: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:23] <Intruder> just a standart rubbish 14inch one
[11:23] <Intruder> standard
[11:23] <scheuri> teufler: did aptitude install libdvdread3 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh not work?
[11:24] <Intruder> its a old spare pc
[11:24] <teufler> scheuri: this message came while this command
[11:24] <waky> i searche eastereggs at dapper
[11:24] <Intruder> to be exact its a AMAGA C409 CRT
[11:24] <waky> have you someone ?
[11:25] <scheuri> teufler: well, try to install build-essentials first and try then again -> sudo aptitude install build-essentials
[11:25] <KenSentMe> In the wiki page WPAHowTo is written that when i install network-manager-gnome i can choose to connect to a new wireless network and then choose wpa security, but i only see WEP. Anyone know why?
[11:26] <teufler> scheuri: i've got an x64, does this matter?
[11:26] <scheuri> teufler: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[11:26] <ashridah> okay, this is weird. the initramfs environment seems to ignore my sis sata controller, only attempting to load the nvidia driver for it
[11:26] <EkoroM> hello
[11:26] <scheuri> teufler: uuhhh....with ubuntu64?
[11:26] <teufler> scheuri: jeah i'm downloading
[11:26] <EkoroM> My name is EkoRom
[11:26] <teufler> scheuri: dapper
[11:26] <scheuri> teufler: well, yes...the 64bit version??
[11:26] <teufler> scheuri: yes ;)
[11:27] <HumanPrototype> hi EkoroM
[11:27] <kurimaw> guys... how can i install KDE on my ubuntu? do i need to install the kde-base from synaptic? or i should install Xubuntu so i can switch between gnome and kde?
[11:27] <scheuri> teufler: then I cant help you there...just try it
[11:27] <EkoroM> helo
[11:27] <kakalto> kurimaw: get the kubuntu-desktop package.
[11:27] <teufler> scheuri: ok, thank
[11:27] <EkoroM> I want to know if i can run ubuntu on this machine
[11:27] <EkoroM> i hate windows these days
[11:27] <HumanPrototype> EkoroM: what are the specs?
[11:27] <EkoroM> (:
[11:27] <gharz> kakalto, kubuntu-desktop package from synaptic?
[11:28] <scheuri> gharz: yes...
[11:28] <kakalto> gharz: that's how you install kde
[11:28] <EkoroM> HumanProtoype
[11:28] <EkoroM> can you pm me
[11:28] <tore> is launchpad's forgotten password mailing feature broken?  I do not receive the promised email.
[11:29] <LazySod> EkoroM: i feel sorry for you
[11:29] <EkoroM> lol why?
[11:29] <EkoroM> pms dont work
[11:29] <makko> why don't my gtk apps get the font settings of the kde apps (i set it up that way in system settings)?
[11:29] <H0ddi> Intruder: You might have to find out it's vertical and horizontal sync range
[11:29] <LazySod> EkoroM: being consumed by hate isn't good at all
[11:29] <EkoroM> hm.. i just dont like windows.. thats not hating
[11:29] <Intruder> its what m8? It did work ok?
[11:29] <LazySod> EkoroM: being all worked up and all
[11:29] <Intruder> Is there a solution?
[11:29] <gharz> so when i restart my machine, i'll have to option to select my session (gnome or kde)?
[11:30] <EkoroM> http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/notebooks_Q2_W4_inspn_1300_N06136?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs
[11:30] <kakalto> gharz: yes.
[11:30] <EkoroM> thats the specs
[11:30] <gharz> kakalto, thanks!!!!!!!
[11:30] <LazySod> then you're lying then?
[11:30] <ashridah> whoa, okay, why the hell does checking the contents of /proc/kmsg hang my system?
[11:30] <LazySod> :P
[11:30] <LazySod> :D
[11:30] <H0ddi> Intruder: You sure that monitor can do 800x600?
[11:30] <Intruder> yes
[11:30] <Intruder> and more
[11:30] <EkoroM> Iam not sure
[11:30] <EkoroM> (:
[11:31] <gharz> why is it that ubuntu has a Xubuntu? what's the difference? xubuntu doesn't have gnome or kde?
[11:31] <kakalto> I previously did not have 'usplash' in the boot runlevel, as I didn't want it to show itself. I added it temporarily to try something, then removed it again, but it is still running on bootup! any ideas how to fix this?
[11:31] <selaiah_> when i type "su" and my password i get "Authentication ERror Sorry". Any hints what might ressolve this?
[11:31] <makko> gharz: no, it doesn't
[11:31] <EkoroM> so is there any specific laptop that i can buy to run this OS?
[11:31] <Intruder> when i installed was in 1024 x 768 after install
[11:31] <kakalto> selaiah_: typing the correct password?
[11:31] <gharz> makko, ok... thanks!
[11:31] <EkoroM> FUCK THIS
[11:31] <Intruder> i sec i will change to this pc just to check
[11:31] <kakalto> sounds like he was having a nice time
[11:31] <makko> gharz: you are welcome
[11:32] <makko> why don't my gtk apps get the font settings of the kde apps (i set it up that way in system settings)?
[11:32] <selaiah_> kakalto: its my normal user password isnt it?
[11:32] <Intruder> this is running @ 1024x768
[11:32] <kakalto> selaiah_: should be
[11:32] <luke> how do I truncate my firestarter "Policy" log thing
[11:32] <selaiah> kakalto: doesnt do the trick for me
[11:32] <luke> in my "Places" menu, it shows "Desktop Folder|Desktop" instead of just "Desktop"
[11:32] <kimo> Guys, anyone knows of unofficial kernels for ubuntu (with swsusp2 support ...?) I don't wanna compile my own
[11:33] <Killaz> !pastebin
[11:33] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:33] <kakalto> selaiah: hmm... well, that's how I thought it worked. maybe I was wrong. keep asking here, you might get a more informed answerer :)
[11:33] <jond3rd> selaiah: did you set a password for root?
[11:34] <Intruder> not monitor m8
[11:34] <Intruder> cant even change resoultion in gui
[11:34] <teufler> scheuri: well, k3b seem to work (riping iso file now), but no media works .. i'll keep trying ;)
[11:35] <selaiah> jond3rd: I havent :D
[11:35] <scheuri> teufler: try vlc...that plays DVDs for me fine
[11:35] <Intruder> i thought was would be an easy problem :-(
[11:35] <Intruder> to get a solution for
[11:35] <jond3rd> selaiah: that is why, 'su' without arguments will use root as the default user
[11:35] <Ng> selaiah: run sudo -i instead of su
[11:35] <fantazia> hello :-)
[11:35] <Intruder> i know if i reinstall it will be ok
[11:36] <selaiah> i'll try that, thank you two
[11:36] <shrump_jimbo> anyone know how to manually empty the trash bin
[11:36] <jond3rd> and root is disabled by default in ubuntu, isn't it?
[11:36] <Intruder> but i lose my hub :-(
[11:36] <fantazia> how to find out which driver ubuntu is using for my wireless lan card?
[11:36] <Ng> jond3rd: yes
[11:36] <Ng> !root
[11:36] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:36] <fantazia> is anyone using wpasupplicant?
[11:37] <scheuri> Intruder: before you reinstall ALL of it...try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:37] <jond3rd> Ng: that's what i'm trying to tell selaiah
[11:37] <Intruder> will my SQL DB be same m8
[11:37] <Intruder> I have verihub running on the machine
[11:37] <selaiah> NG / jond3rd: Is Sudo exactly the same as su? Cause im having problems with my frostwire install and they suggest  su -c "sed -i 's/\r$//' /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh"  - but when I type that with sudo instead it tells me -c is an invalid argument =p
[11:37] <scheuri> Intruder: that command does only reinstall all the graphical stuff...or actually reconfgure it
[11:37] <Intruder> ok
[11:37] <Ng> selaiah: do the sudo -i first, then the command that's in double quotes
[11:38] <fantazia> selaiah: try "whatis sudo" and "whatis su"
[11:38] <Jimmey__> I want a text mode Dapper install CD - which is that?
[11:38] <luke> in my "Places" menu, it shows "Desktop Folder|Desktop" instead of just "Desktop"
[11:38] <scheuri> Intruder: it should not change any of the other services
[11:38] <jond3rd> selaiah: no, su is switch user while sudo is "do this as root" thinge
[11:38] <Intruder> ok trying now
[11:38] <luke> how do I truncate my firestarter "Policy" log thing
[11:38] <fantazia> noone uses wpa on ubuntu?
[11:38] <Jimmey__> jond3rd: "su" means "super user", so you can log in as root
[11:39] <scheuri> Intruder: make sure that you ctrl-alt-backspace after reconfigure to restart X-server
[11:39] <w^x> yeah
[11:39] <Jimmey__> selaiah: your command would be sudo "sed....."
[11:39] <snidx2> is dapper also a live cd?
[11:39] <zcat[1] > su means Set UID.. root is merely the default, you can become any user..
[11:39] <jond3rd> Jimmey__: so when I do "su - Jimmey" is the same thing as saying "switch to Jimmey as suoer user"?
[11:39] <scheuri> snidx2: yes
[11:39] <Intruder> asking which package m8
[11:39] <scheuri> snidx2: if you downloaded the desktop-cd
[11:39] <Ng> jond3rd: no, it would mean switch to user Jimmey
[11:39] <selaiah> Ok thanks! It didnt fix my frostwire, but at least i have now learned how to use the root terminal =D ty ;)
[11:39] <Intruder> with this  sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[11:39] <Jimmey__> jond3rd: I think "su" brings up a login prompt for root
[11:39] <Killaz> guys I'm having probem setting up my network interfaces. The error is: Dont seem to be have all the variables for the0/inet. Failed to bring up eth0
[11:40] <snidx2> scheuri: so can i check out most of the basic features ubuntu has to offer without touching my hard drive?
[11:40] <jond3rd> Ng: that's what i'm trying to tell to Jimmey__
[11:40] <Killaz> I pasetbin my interfaces confi
[11:40] <scheuri> snidx2: absolutely correct...:)
[11:40] <Killaz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15241
[11:40] <jond3rd> Jimmey__: su without argument will use 'root'
[11:40] <Ng> jond3rd: *shrug* you asked a question, I answered it ;)
[11:40] <Jimmey__> Oh, I see.
[11:40] <Killaz> cn you tell me what's wrong?
[11:40] <AeSSeD> I'm problem with avidemux and audio
[11:40] <Jimmey__> Have the dapper text mode install .isos all disappeared ?
[11:41] <scheuri> Jimmey__: no, its the alternate-version CD
[11:41] <zcat[1] > Jimmey__: alternative
[11:41] <kakalto> Jimmey__: you mean the 'alternate installation cd' image?
[11:41] <kakalto> lol.
[11:41] <Jimmey__> Oh, thanks.
[11:41] <luke> how do I truncate my firestarter "Policy" log thing
[11:41] <Intruder> ... /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigu
[11:41] <eclair> has anyone had an experience of having something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15120
[11:41] <Intruder> is wot i get
[11:41] <kakalto> Intruder: what are you trying to reconfigure?
[11:41] <Ng> Intruder: the command was: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:41] <Ng> you missed off the last bit
[11:41] <Killaz> hmm found the problem already :S
[11:41] <Jimmey__> Does that mean I can't any longer install a server with "server" at the boot prompt of a normal install ?
[11:42] <Intruder> ok sorry trying again
[11:42] <scheuri> ;)
[11:42] <scheuri> Ng: thanks
[11:42] <kakalto> Jimmey__: I don't believe so, as it is the _desktop_ cd, made for _desktops_. :)
[11:42] <scheuri> Jimmey__: there is a special ISO / CD for server
[11:43] <Jimmey__> Fair enough.
[11:43] <selaiah> !ubotu automatix
[11:43] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[11:43] <kakalto> eclair: what is the problem?
[11:43] <scheuri> Jimmey__: basically you have three ISOs to choose from...desktop for desktops (is live CD as well), alternate for text based installer and server for...ehmm..server
[11:43] <kakalto> !easyubuntu
[11:43] <ubotu> methinks easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[11:43] <w^x> gfunk,
[11:44] <Intruder> ok this looks like wot we need but i have options x server driver newport  nsc  nv ?
[11:44] <Jimmey__> scheuri, I preferred the good old days of "install" and "live", but what can you do.
[11:44] <scheuri> Intruder: if your card is nvidia...then NV is correct
[11:44] <kakalto> Jimmey__: well, it's just the same... but the live can install too :)
[11:44] <Intruder> ok ty
[11:44] <scheuri> Jimmey__: I know, I know...I am with you...;)
[11:44] <Toma-> are there any good/new service managers in dapper? bum doesnt work too well in dapper for some reason
[11:44] <Jimmey__> kakalto: That's true - and useful, for beginners
[11:45] <gizmo_the_great> can anyone tell me how to search of the files in root (/) for a specific text string?
[11:45] <kakalto> Toma-: there's the command-line one.... sysv-rc-conf
[11:45] <gizmo_the_great> i think I need to use GREP but unsure how
[11:45] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: grep "specific text string" /
[11:45] <Jimmey__> gizmo_the_great: try "man grep"
[11:45] <eclair> kakalto: i installed kubuntu a while back and i was thinking of getting some other stuff like gaim, etc. but the thing is that in adept i checked the part manage repositories i got something similar to that
[11:45] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: add -r if you want it to look in all subdirectories too
[11:45] <Toma-> no sysv-rc-conf here
[11:45] <luke> gizmo_the_great, find / -name "string here" 2> /dev/null
[11:45] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: and -i if you want it to not care about the case of the text
[11:46] <gizmo_the_great> Ng, I was missing the -r!! Thanks - I will try that
[11:46] <javier> dd
[11:46] <Ng> luke: that will only find files named "string here"
[11:46] <makko> why don't my gtk apps get the font settings of the kde apps (i set it up that way in system settings)?
[11:46] <eclair> kakalto: in my case it's ph.ubuntu.archive.com
[11:46] <zcat[1] > find / -exec grep -l "string here" {} \;
[11:46] <Ng> makko: because gtk and kde apps use different settings
[11:46] <Ng> zcat[1] : that's quite redundant ;)
[11:47] <kakalto> eclair: I don't exactly see what the problem is
[11:47] <gizmo_the_great> luke, its the text within the files I am after, not looking for the actual files.
[11:47] <luke> ah ok gizmo
[11:47] <kakalto> eclair: perhaps I am blind
[11:47] <luke> wow, a grep -r "my password here" / returned about 20 entries...
[11:47] <zcat[1] > I think find can search for strings in files too..
[11:47] <eclair> kakalto: i can't seem to get and install other apps
[11:47] <gizmo_the_great> will -v display its progress?
[11:48] <slider2800> Hi ppl.
[11:48] <gizmo_the_great> before i kick it off
[11:48] <diazepam> hi guys - Ive just done something really stupid - does anyone know how to reset the default $PATH under dapper
[11:48] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: no, -v inverts the search operation
[11:48] <Intruder> ok asking me about keyboard layout tryed xorg and uk and gb any ideas?
[11:48] <Fujitsu> diazepam, restart the terminal>
[11:48] <gizmo_the_great> ooops - too late!!!!!
[11:48] <gizmo_the_great> its scrolling loads of stuff
[11:48] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: ctrl-c it and run it again
[11:48] <trendydark> Does anyone know how I would use esddsp in Ubuntu, like artsdsp in Kubuntu?
[11:48] <gizmo_the_great> but not sure if it;s actually fidning anything
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> good point
[11:49] <diazepam> Fujitsu - great
[11:49] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: -v will be finding files that don't contain "some specific string"
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> Ctrl C it now
[11:49] <diazepam> fujitsu - though i f**cked it
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> Do'H!!
[11:49] <kakalto> eclair: well, some of the sources seem to be ignored by adept, not sure why
[11:49] <WINBALL> BitchX-75p3+Tcl2.0 by panasync - Linux 2.4.23-grsec
[11:49] <Intruder> ok sorted it used US lol
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> Ng, you know the switch to display the output by chance?
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> as in the progress
[11:49] <luke> man grep
[11:49] <Fujitsu> diazepam, please watch the language.
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> will do that now
[11:50] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: I don't think it really has a progress option.
[11:50] <[nige] > !ati
[11:50] <ubotu> somebody said ati was http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[11:50] <slider2800> GRUB problem -- again. : So. i finally managed to reinstall GRUB after a win XP reinst... but now i can't boot into XP. Its like Grub is resterting itself, AND i have to overwrite some stuff to be able to boot Ubutntu... Is there any way to wipe off Grub from the HD and reinstall it? or can i do something to fix this problem?
[11:51] <eclair> kakalto: any recommendations?
[11:51] <Intruder> ok think its done do i need to reboot it???
[11:51] <scheuri> Intruder: well...ctrl-alt-backspace should be eough
[11:51] <Intruder> ok
[11:51] <kakalto> eclair: well, it says "failed to verify"... which,  I would think, could be a problem with the mirror
[11:51] <Intruder> is it supposed to drop to dos when i do that
[11:52] <Intruder> it has and asking me to login
[11:52] <scheuri> Intruder: does it stay there?
[11:52] <Fujitsu> Intruder, not DOS...
[11:52] <Intruder> u know wot i mean :D
[11:52] <kakalto> eclair: so I would remove the 'se.' before the 'archive.ubuntu.com', and replace it with, say, 'us.'... and see if it will verify then
[11:52] <Intruder> yes it does m8
[11:52] <eclair> kakalto: thanks
[11:52] <Intruder> no gui
[11:52] <kakalto> eclair: keep me posted as to whether it works :)
[11:52] <kakalto> Intruder: it's called LINUX :P
[11:52] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: look in /boot/grub/menu.lst - which partition is windows on
[11:53] <scheuri> Intruder: that is no good...
[11:53] <slider2800> one sec.
[11:53] <ashridah> okay, this is really weird. 'sata_sil' has loaded according to /proc/modules, but it seems to have magically decided not to actually enable any of the attached sata devices
[11:53] <Killaz> where can I find a list of available packages in the repositories?
[11:53] <Intruder> hahah I know m8
[11:53] <kakalto> Killaz: you want all 13000 packages listed?
[11:53] <Intruder> scheuri: why?
[11:53] <scheuri> Intruder: now we need the log-file again....there is no error message??
[11:53] <slider2800> root		(hd0,0)
[11:53] <kakalto> (give or take up to a few thousand)
[11:53] <Intruder> shall i reboot first
[11:53] <Intruder> to get GUI back
[11:53] <scheuri> Intruder: well, try that...
[11:53] <Ng> Killaz: synaptic can show you a list of packages that aren't installed
[11:53] <Intruder> shutting down now
[11:54] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: Windows is on the first partition, Ubuntu on the second one.
[11:55] <Killaz> kakalto: no I want to look for certain packages. for example shorewall?
[11:55] <luke> everytime grub updates it screws up my menu.lst, by putting in like 100 duplications!!! any ideas?
[11:55] <zcat[1] > Killaz: apt-cache search shorewall
[11:55] <kakalto> Killaz: two options... synaptic (graphical way) .... or 'sudo apt-cache search shorewall' in the terminal to find it
[11:55] <zcat[1] > you don't need to sudo apt-cache
[11:56] <kakalto> Killaz: after which, the graphical way to install it is easy, and the terminal way being 'sudo apt-get install shorewall'
[11:56] <zcat[1] > you're only reading from it..
[11:56] <kakalto> zcat[1] : my bad
[11:56] <Killaz> synaptic not an option Im on CLI....
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: look in /boot/grub/menu.lst - look at the examples bit for windows and copy that section to the very bottom of the file (under the ##end automagic ## ) - it is exactly the same as the one earlier in the file (hd0,0)
[11:56] <Fjodor> Killaz: if you prefer web based search, packages.ubuntu.com. Also, shorewall is in the package shorewall :-)
[11:56] <Fjodor> Killaz: Oh
[11:56] <gfunk> jr.boy?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[11:56] <kakalto> Killaz: good on ya for teh CLI :)
[11:56] <Fjodor> Killaz: apt-cache then
[11:56] <gfunk> Going To Store!!!!!
[11:56] <Killaz> thnx!
[11:56] <Fjodor> Killaz: or aptitude perhaps?
[11:56] <CrippsFX> hey Fjodor
[11:57] <Killaz> Fjodor: yeah I read about aptitude...
[11:57] <Fjodor> Hey CrippsFX! Wassup?
[11:57] <scheuri> Intruder: got to go...good luck with your problem
[11:57] <CrippsFX> Fjodor, not too much ... haven't been reading as much as I'd like to ;)
[11:57] <Killaz> think I need to RTFM heh!!! :p
[11:57] <Fjodor> Killaz: I don't use it much, but it should be powerful
[11:57] <Intruder> ok booted up still same still cant change resoution :-( which log do you want to look @
[11:57] <zcat[1] > btw; apt-cache search .  will list every package (18878 in my case)
[11:57] <scheuri> Intruder: got to go...good luck with your problem
[11:57] <Intruder> ok m8
[11:57] <Intruder> thank you
[11:57] <Fjodor> CrippsFX: Yeah, neither have I
[11:58] <scheuri> Intruder: the one you pasted second...
[11:58] <scheuri> bye all
[11:58] <Intruder> ok
[11:58] <Intruder> cya m8
[11:58] <Intruder> ok who wants to see this log?
[11:58] <Killaz> ok.. I'll check apt-cache... and the web based search
[11:58] <slider2800> The only difference between the example and the lines for XP is that in the exmaple there is no SAVEDEFAULT command.
[11:59] <zcat[1] > btw apt-cache search will find keyworkds in the description, not just matching package names..
[11:59] <luke> everytime grub updates it screws up my menu.lst, by putting in like 100 duplications!!! any ideas?
[11:59] <Killaz> I want to be prevent my system to be hacked like last time...
[11:59] <Killaz> think someone installed a rootkit on it
[11:59] <Killaz> :S
[11:59] <Fjodor> Killaz: bummer
[11:59] <zcat[1] > what'd you have open?
[11:59] <Killaz> so I'm looking for every way to prevent and to be alert when this happens..
[11:59] <[D-Tail] > hey all :-)
[12:00] <[D-Tail] > got a small question about gconf-editor/nautilus/desktop settings...
[12:00] <Ng> Killaz: just don't have any ports open to the world
[12:00] <Killaz> well some port for bit-torrent client
[12:00] <Intruder> on a good note my scoll wheel works ok now :d
[12:00] <ic56> anyone have NTFS partitions and wanna help me test a tool that sets up mountpoints and /etc/fstab entries for them?  I promise to help you put things back the way they were after.
[12:00] <[D-Tail] > I accidentally unchecked the show_desktop key in gconf-editor.... my desktop was gone instantly. After checking it again, it was still gone...
[12:00] <[D-Tail] > now what should I do?
[12:00] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: another question... is it possible that i messed up something seriously? When i reinstalled GRUB, i gave the commands "setup (hd0)" , then "setup (hd0,0)" and then "setup (dh0,1)" ... might this srew up the bootloader?
[12:01] <Killaz> Ng: I know so next time I'll just open 2 or 3 ports for the client....
[12:01] <Killaz> Ng: cause the other ports were the standard one.. for apache, mysql openssh
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: I think that would install it to the boot part of the first and sectioned partitions but not the mbr (hence overwriting the windows bootloader)
[12:02] <Ng> Killaz: you really don't want mysql open to the world
[12:02] <Mikelo> !skype
[12:02] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: Normally you would just do setup hd0
[12:02] <Killaz> Ng: oh true... just use it on localhost..
[12:02] <Killaz> Ng: !!
[12:03] <Killaz> Ng: maybe that was the problem.... I couldnt figure out how they got in..
[12:03] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: yeah. thats done... and GRUB starts normally, but without that little modding to the lines, i can't boot to Linux, and when i want to boot Windows, its just returning to Grub.
[12:03] <[D-Tail] > Please, who can help me with the gconf-editor/nautilus/desktop problem?
[12:03] <Ng> Killaz: "netstat --tcp -l -p" is quite useful - it shows you which ports are open, on which interfaces and which program owns them
[12:03] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: The best idea is probably just to forget about windows and don't use it
[12:03] <mbm1980> [D-Tail] , just ask mate.
[12:04] <w^x> .
[12:04] <w^x> .
[12:04] <Killaz> Ng: I'm going to install nessus.. herad and read some good things about it
[12:04] <Intruder> ok anyone else about help me with my screen resolution please
[12:04] <Killaz> heard*
[12:04] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: sorry, no can't do. i've got a serious amount of workfiles on that partition AND i still use XP for working... yeah. i know... i hate it too, but i need it for work.
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: You could try running sudo update-grub
[12:04] <[D-Tail] > mbm1980: I accidentally unchecked the show_desktop thing inside gconf-editor
[12:04] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: okay
[12:04] <[D-Tail] > and when I checked it again, my desktop and all its icons were still gone
[12:04] <Ng> [D-Tail] : have you logged out since re-enabling that option?
[12:04] <[D-Tail] > yeah
[12:05] <[D-Tail] > didn't help and fglrx crashed :-(
[12:05] <w^x> gfunk, u payin attention
[12:05] <[D-Tail] > so I figure I should completely stop/start x again
[12:05] <[D-Tail] > in order to get fglrx work again, but hey....
[12:05] <[D-Tail] > I'm pretty much sure just drawing a desktop can very well be done with mesa instead, too
[12:05] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: and how about LILO. what if i download that with Synaptic... will it overwrite GRUB on the MBR ?
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: Do you know how to setup lilo ?
[12:06] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: nope. :D
[12:06] <[D-Tail] > should I log out, stop x, start x, log in again and try again checking the option?
[12:07] <zawa> Has anyone able to play wmv file using VLC?
[12:07] <ydnar> nope, but i have been able to play it through Movie Player
[12:08] <zawa> what's call?  Just "Movie Player"?
[12:08] <ydnar> Applications > Sound & Video > Movie Player
[12:08] <Mikelo> !gstreamer
[12:08] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mikelo
[12:08] <ic56> h3sp4wn: what is slider2800's status now?  why isn't working?
[12:09] <monster> guys wich cd (Desktop server or alternative) has the most packages for installation?
[12:09] <ic56> h3sp4wn: (what isn't working?)
[12:09] <bootwoes> hi
[12:09] <WINBALL> hi@you
[12:09] <bootwoes> whos up for some grub troubleshooting?
[12:09] <slider2800> ME! :D
[12:09] <bootwoes> yay
[12:10] <slider2800> So... *sigh* ... About GRUB.
[12:10] <bootwoes> ok .. heres the lowdown
[12:10] <zawa> ydnar, i am using fluxbox.  What's the command to launch the movie player?
[12:10] <bootwoes> ubuntu works find on drive A 80 gig
[12:10] <selaiah> can someone recommend a mp3 player?
[12:10] <ic56> slider2800: :-) go on
[12:10] <bootwoes> i did a cp -archive the lot to drive B 200gig
[12:11] <bootwoes> now ive booted up hoping to be able to install grub
[12:11] <bootwoes> but i get 'Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.'
[12:11] <slider2800> bootwoes: so.. yesterday i had to reinstall Windows XP... and now i had trouble with GRUB. i finally managed to reinstall it, but now its now loading XP, instead its returning to itself, AND i have to overwrite two lines when i want to boot the Ubuntu Kernel.
[12:11] <Fjodor> zawa: The player started by that menu entry is totem here
[12:11] <zawa> totem can't play it either
[12:12] <slider2800> whoops.. typo :...
[12:12] <bootwoes> hey.. at least you got it to load XP.. my last attempt killed xp
[12:12] <slider2800> Grub is NOT loading XP
[12:12] <ic56> slider2800: You installed grub 3 times, from what I saw of your earlier comments.  That means the first grub, in the MBR, ends up chaining to the second one inside the partition.
[12:12] <bootwoes> so anybody know where i go from here?
[12:12] <slider2800> aw damn.
[12:12] <slider2800> can i wipe the other two off the HD ?
[12:13] <luke> is there a command to TRUNCATE a file?
[12:13] <luke> eg, .bash_history
[12:13] <mjr> cp /dev/null file
[12:13] <ic56> slider2800: have you used "chainloader +1" in GRUB's menu.lst entry for the windows partition?
[12:13] <selaiah> Does someone know a mp3 player that supports source - streaming through ice/shout-cast?
[12:13] <Ng> luke: as in empty it? or truncate it at a specific point?
[12:13] <mjr> note that bash will rewrite bash_history on logout
[12:13] <luke> i dont want to delete it, i just want to empty it
[12:13] <slider2800> yes... the command is there.
[12:13] <Ng> luke: >~/.bash_history  will empty it
[12:13] <luke> Ng, empty
[12:13] <luke> whoh ty
[12:14] <luke> what does the ~ do?
[12:14] <slider2800> ic56: if i delete CHAINLOADER +1 ... might that solve the problem?
[12:14] <TheSheep> luke: ~/ is your home directory
[12:14] <luke> oh right.. lol
[12:14] <ic56> slider2800: let's see your menu.lst in pastebin.  remove all the comments -- leave me something short to see.
[12:14] <slider2800> ok. one sec.
[12:15] <h3sp4wn> ic56: I think he needs to use fixboot from the xp recovery console to reinstall the windows bootloader to hd0,0
[12:15] <bootwoes> anybody got anything for me?
[12:15] <ic56> slider2800: to remove all comments:  sed '/^ *#/d' /boot/grub/menu.lst  # output goes to Terminal
[12:15] <luke> where is my bash_history file anyway? because when I ran that command, and then ran history, it didnt change
[12:15] <bootwoes> not feeling the love yo
[12:15] <slider2800> i'm on it.
[12:16] <ic56> h3sp4wn: he could do that but, grub *can* boot XP, can't it?
[12:16] <sladen> selaiah: xmms, totem, etc
[12:16] <Ng> luke: in your home directory. bash probably holds the history list in memory until it quits
[12:16] <luke> ah ic
[12:16] <h3sp4wn> ic56: he did setup (hd0,0) and setup (hd0,1)
[12:16] <Ng> luke: so close all your terminals, open a fresh one, run that command again, then close it and start a new terminal and you should be without history
[12:16] <slider2800> http://pastebin.com/764827
[12:17] <mbm1980> selaiah, Gnome or KDE?
[12:17] <Mikelo> what plugin do i need to play mp3's on rhythmbox?
[12:17] <Mikelo> which of version?
[12:17] <Ng> !tell Mikelo about RestrictedFormats
[12:17] <thefish> luke: if you want to clear your history, just run `history -c`
[12:17] <bootwoes> !help bootwoes
[12:17] <slider2800> ic56: the parameters for Ubuntu has been changed, so it able to boot... ( hd0,2 changed to 0,1 and hda3 to hda2 )
[12:18] <luke> lol ty thefish
[12:18] <ic56> h3sp4wn: hmm, and (hd0,0) is his windows partition, right?  Which means slider2800's windows partition contains a grub too.  Is that right?
[12:18] <slider2800> ic56: yes...
[12:19] <D4rksh4de> Hi.
[12:19] <h3sp4wn> ic56: think so
[12:20] <slider2800> ic56, h3sp4wn: like i said : i gave out the commands "setup (hd0) , setup(hd0,1) and setup (hd0,2)" at installing grub
[12:20] <Faileas> hello
[12:20] <iiiears> Welcome Failes.
[12:20] <slider2800> ... that might be the problem.
[12:21] <Faileas> this might sound rather silly, but i was wondering how i set a root AC and password in ubuntu server?
[12:21] <Faileas> i'm running a system to try out and i'm a little lost
[12:21] <Faileas> i seem to remember there isn't one by default
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> all my audio aps that use sdl dont work?
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> like quake3
[12:21] <iiiears> !rootsudo
[12:21] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:22] <lsuactiafner> i dont get sound
[12:22] <Faileas> thank you
[12:22] <bootwoes> not an irc regular.. so im not sure of the ethiquette.. will someone get around to my problem?
[12:22] <ic56> slider2800: are you able to boot into windows at all?
[12:22] <Faileas> also, is it possible to get a GUI on ubuntu server?
[12:22] <TheSheep> hm... I  used lilo from different distribution, but now I want the pretty ubuntu image at the boot, what should I do? :)
[12:22] <slider2800> nope... when i try, it goes back to Grub
[12:23] <iiiears> lsuactiafner Do you know how to break the mouse pointer "Box" in Unreal Tournament '99 ?
[12:23] <gfunk> .
[12:23] <mbm1980> Faileas, yeah, install the one you want.
[12:23] <gfunk> .
[12:23] <Faileas> ok
[12:24] <Faileas> OOH
[12:24] <Faileas> thanks
[12:24] <Faileas> i get it now ^^
[12:24] <mbm1980> Faileas, install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> no idea iiiears
[12:24] <slider2800> ic56: is it possible to erase all instances of Grub from the partitions and then reinstall it to hd0 only?
[12:24] <ashridah> damnit. wish i could work out why the sata controller's failing to initialize :S
[12:24] <ic56> slider2800: do you have WindowsXP install disks?  can you get to the recovery console from there?  If so, you can use fixboot, like h3sp4wn said.  This will trash two grubs: the MBR and the windows partition.  You can then reinstall grub, correctly this time: Just once in the MBR (hd0)
[12:25] <Faileas> mbm1980: ok, i get it, i just need to sudo whatever instead of su to root and watever
[12:25] <slider2800> uh... i do have an install CD... but i don't think there's a recovery console...
[12:25] <slider2800> i might try tho.
[12:26] <ic56> !windowsmbr
[12:26] <ubotu> from memory, windowsmbr is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:26] <mbm1980> Faileas, yeah
[12:26] <guillem101> in an amd64, which is the difference on using amd64-generic versus amd64-K8 kernel?
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> ic56: U think (but don't remember well that only fixmbr overwrites the mbr fixboot shouldn't
[12:26] <mbm1980> Faileas, if you really want the Debian way, you can choose expert when installing, it will ask which method you'd like.
[12:26] <winball_> Irssi 0.8.10 (20051211) - http://irssi.org/
[12:26] <mjr> guillem101, possibly some k8-specific optimizations, shouldn't be a big difference
[12:27] <guillem101> OK, thank-you.
[12:27] <Faileas> mbm1980: its already installed
[12:27] <Faileas> i just need to find my feet, been using suse mostly ;p
[12:27] <ic56> h3sp4wn: windows isn't my domain.  Hopefully you're right.  Have ya'll checked the wiki page on this?
[12:28] <mbm1980> Faileas, *nods* Well it is possible to enable it after install. But all those guides on the wiki/forums are written with sudo in mind. So, finding your feet is properly best. =)
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> ic56: sudo cat /dev/urandom /hda1 would be the best thing to do in my opinion
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> ic56: sudo cat /dev/urandom /dev/hda1 would be the best thing to do in my opinion
[12:29] <Faileas> hmm
[12:29] <Faileas> if i want a shell server, its ssh or open-ssh?
[12:29] <Faileas> er open-ssh server
[12:29] <mjr> h3sp4wn, were you talking of the MBR? that doesn't overwrite it, only the first partition...
[12:30] <Jereth_da_lion> is this the ubuntu place ?
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> mjr: It was an attempt at humor
[12:30] <athena> jereth_da_lion: what's ubuntu?
[12:30] <mbm1980> Faileas, I'd say open-ssh
[12:30] <slider2800> d'oh...
[12:30] <mjr> poor one
[12:30] <Jereth_da_lion> a linux instalation ?
[12:30] <bootwoes> is it my turn yet?
[12:30] <mjr> destructive humor on a help channel isn't nice
[12:30] <mbm1980> nou, Linux Distribution
[12:30] <athena> jereth_da_lion: never heard of it
[12:31] <slider2800> bootwoes: you can help any time...
[12:31] <Jereth_da_lion> just tell me is it or am i in the wrong place
[12:31] <mbm1980> Right place mate.
[12:31] <bootwoes> heh
[12:31] <bimberi> Jereth_da_lion: yes, this is the #ubuntu support channel.  Welcome! :)
[12:31] <Jereth_da_lion> ok i need help
[12:31] <Celestar> note to self: linux doesn't like hotswapping of HDDs
[12:31] <bootwoes> get in line jereth
[12:32] <Faileas> does any OS? ;p
[12:32] <Celestar> especially not if you accidently "swap" disks
[12:32] <Frogzoo> Jereth_da_lion: see the banner - just state your problem
[12:32] <Celestar> Faileas: normally it works
[12:32] <Celestar> Faileas: but I put one disk in the slot of another and v.v. so the mount points got a BIT messed up
[12:32] <TheSheep> Celestar: windows doesn't like it even more
[12:32] <mjr> Celestar, linux likes it just fine. If they're unmounted and the HW supports it.
[12:32] <Jereth_da_lion> how do i findout cpu speed and ram from within linux
[12:32] <Celestar> TheSheep: Windows doesn't like you altering the mouse position, so what's the point? :P
[12:32] <kimo> Jereth_da_lion: cat /proc/cpuinfo /proc/meminfo
[12:33] <mjr> Celestar, ah. You can mount by filesystem label to avoid that, btw
[12:33] <TheSheep> Jereth_da_lion: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:33] <TheSheep> right
[12:33] <TheSheep> sorry
[12:33] <Celestar> it's fun to see that POST takes 5 minutes and system boot takes 50 seconds.
[12:33] <bootwoes> anybody for some one on one help?
[12:33] <ic56> slider2800: I'm reading up on windows.  Before I forget, your config has one thing wrong: line 26 should be "rootnoverify" instead of "root"
[12:33] <bimberi> !grub
[12:33] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:33] <bootwoes> itll be fun
[12:33] <Jereth_da_lion> is that the file location ot a comandline run
[12:33] <bootwoes> you know you wanna...
[12:33] <mbm1980> Jereth_da_lion, Use System->Administration->Device Manager
[12:33] <bimberi> bootwoes: have a look through the links ubotu posted
[12:33] <slider2800> k. thanks. i'll try.
[12:33] <Jereth_da_lion> very new to linux
[12:33] <Celestar> I wish ubuntu@sparc64 would not try to activate bluetooth services
[12:34] <bootwoes> dude.. i have read em all..
[12:34] <Jereth_da_lion> it didnt show up under that its on a older laptop
[12:34] <Frogzoo> Jereth_da_lion: cat /proc/cpuinfo & /proc/meminfo
[12:34] <bootwoes> i need some advice on what step to take next
[12:34] <ic56> slider2800: it won't fix your current problem but it will be ncessary once you fix windows.
[12:34] <Jereth_da_lion> ok ill try that
[12:34] <slider2800> okay.
[12:34] <Faileas> bootwoes: what was the issue? (it was said before i came)
[12:34] <bootwoes> failed install on a single disk
[12:34] <bootwoes> xp corrupt
[12:35] <Faileas> its XP
[12:35] <bootwoes> installed ubuntu solo on another drive
[12:35] <Faileas> wipe and reinstall?
[12:35] <bootwoes> 2 things i want to do
[12:35] <Faileas> hmm
[12:35] <bootwoes> move ubuntu from a 80 gig
[12:35] <Jereth_da_lion> and can yuo run ubuntu from a folder in windows like older distu could
[12:35] <bootwoes> to a 200 gig drive
[12:35] <mwe> Frogzoo: isn't the "Total" reported by /proc/meminfo == total physical - kernel ?
[12:35] <Celestar> wtf is "SILO"
[12:35] <Ng> Celestar: sparc boot loader
[12:35] <bootwoes> and then get it to run with my other 250 which has xp
[12:35] <TheSheep> Jereth_da_lion: you can use livecd...
[12:35] <bootwoes> recovered with a ghost image
[12:36] <Jereth_da_lion> ok
[12:36] <Celestar> Ng: ah :)
[12:36] <Faileas> ahhh
[12:36] <TheSheep> Jereth_da_lion: it's not the same, but it's similar
[12:36] <Celestar> Ng: it just sounds .. strange
[12:36] <Ng> Celestar: sparcs are strange ;)
[12:36] <Faileas> you can have two independant bootloaders and select at bios IIRC
[12:36] <Celestar> Ng: but they rock :)
[12:36] <Jereth_da_lion> ok and is any big name software avalabe for linux
[12:36] <Faileas> i need to try that sometime in VMware
[12:37] <Faileas> Jereth_da_lion: big name of what sort?
[12:37] <TheSheep> Jereth_da_lion: mozilla firefox for exmaple? ;)
[12:37] <slider2800> okay then. i'm off repairing the computer.
[12:37] <bootwoes> right now the copied ubuntu wont work
[12:37] <Celestar> Ng: I'm just still looking for a CPU monitor in X. :P
[12:37] <Faileas> serverside, damn near everything
[12:37] <bootwoes> it has no grub
[12:37] <slider2800> THANKS FOR THE HELP!!!
[12:37] <babo> they might say, I'm a dreamer ...
[12:37] <babo> but I'm not the only one ...
[12:37] <Jereth_da_lion> um cinema 4d maya maxon 3dsmax photoshop that kind of thing
[12:37] <Faileas> bootwoes: repair mode, and install grub on that drive?
[12:37] <babo> come on and join me ...
[12:37] <babo> and the world will live as one ...
[12:37] <ic56> slider2800: yw.  Follow up on the URL I showed you. I'm still reading it
[12:37] <bootwoes> i tried sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[12:37] <bootwoes> but i got this
[12:37] <bootwoes> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[12:37] <Ng> Celestar: gnome-system-monitor?
[12:38] <Faileas> o0
[12:38] <Celestar> Ng: lets see
[12:38] <bootwoes> this by the way is only with one drive plugged in
[12:38] <Celestar> Ng: (still POSTing)
[12:38] <TheSheep> babo: Imagine there's no Heaven  :P
[12:38] <babo> TheSheep: :-)
[12:38] <Faileas> hmm
[12:38] <bootwoes>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:38] <bootwoes> /dev/sda1            9638       24321   117949230    5  Extended
[12:38] <bootwoes> /dev/sda2               1        9637    77409171   83  Linux
[12:38] <bootwoes> /dev/sda5            9638       24321   117949198+   b  W95 FAT32
[12:39] <bootwoes> this is whats on the drive
[12:39] <mbm1980> Jereth_da_lion, here's a list of programs for Windows and suggestions for replacements under Linux: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[12:39] <bootwoes> is it missing a boot partition or sumthing?
[12:39] <Faileas> er...
[12:39] <Jereth_da_lion> bought an old laptop just to learn linux on
[12:39] <Jereth_da_lion> thnx
[12:39] <Faileas> whats the lightest desktop with some minor management tools i can istall?
[12:39] <chennaituxian> bootwoes, u don hav a seperate /boot partition ?!
[12:40] <minimec> Hi folks. Is there a way to reset the password of the keyring in the gnome-keyring-manager. I can't access to my keyring anymore.
[12:40] <gizmo_the_great> dsl - dam small linux
[12:40] <Faileas> lol
[12:40] <Faileas> i mean over ubuntu server
[12:40] <bootwoes> chennaituxian.. dont know
[12:40] <Faileas> KDE and gnome has more stuff than i need for a test install
[12:40] <mbm1980> Jereth_da_lion, I'd suggest you just install it and use the Add/Remove programs then. You don't need to download any extra software with Ubuntu.
[12:40] <bootwoes> i formated this drive using gparted and selected ext3
[12:40] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: it shows only one Linux partition
[12:40] <Celestar> Ng: because xosview is NOT happy
[12:40] <chennaituxian> and that is /
[12:40] <bootwoes> then copied the ubuntu partition to it
[12:40] <ashridah> weird. initramfs loads the basic scsi driver, but never tries to load anything else
[12:41] <bootwoes> how do i go about remedying this?
[12:41] <bootwoes> i am currently booting via the livecd
[12:41] <NET||abuse> how do i list the files in a deb? to find location of specific file of a package?
[12:41] <NET||abuse> -l lists just packages.. what about the files in the package?
[12:41] <manicka> can someone tell me if the Code of Conduct has changed
[12:41] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: re-installed GRUB ?
[12:41] <ashridah> Netcat: dpkg -S filename will search installed packages
[12:42] <neutrinomass> Anybody with eagle-usb experience ?
[12:42] <ashridah> dpkg-deb should let you inspect .deb files (from memory)
[12:42] <bootwoes> thats what i think im trying to do
[12:42] <ashridah> NET||abuse: even
[12:42] <manicka> my launchpad page says I'm no longer an ubuntero
[12:42] <bootwoes> i mounted the drive
[12:42] <bootwoes> then did grud-install /dev/sda
[12:42] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: ur /boot is within ur /
[12:42] <bootwoes> and got the error
[12:43] <Hit3k> Can anyone recommend a CD/DVD writer that can burn images like .isos and .cue files?
[12:43] <rem_> .
[12:43] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: try unmounting the drive and try
[12:43] <rem_> k3b
[12:43] <Jereth_da_lion> maya ????
[12:43] <NET||abuse> ashridah: thanks i'll try that.
[12:43] <bootwoes> actually i didnt even mount it
[12:43] <bootwoes> i just ran the command
[12:44] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: oho
[12:44] <MadMerC> do yas reckon that breezy is still ok to use instead of goin up to dapper ??
[12:44] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: is ur sda partitioned as sda1, sda2... ?
[12:44] <bimberi> manicka: hm, same here, and for sabdfl !!
[12:44] <chennaituxian> MadMerC: dapper rox
[12:45] <bootwoes> sda1, sda5 and sda5
[12:45] <manicka> lol
[12:45] <bootwoes> sda5 is fat32
[12:45] <svigi_wlan> hello
[12:45] <bootwoes> sda2
[12:45] <manicka> I wonder why?
[12:45] <Jereth_da_lion> frog is it a file name or command i enter ?
[12:45] <Picillo> I'm downlaoding the image now. I hope it's easier than using slackware.
[12:45] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: try giving specific partition where your linux is, like sda1 = sda(0,0)
[12:45] <svigi_wlan> anyone knows why I get this message? /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko need unknown symbol capable?
[12:46] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: try giving specific partition sda1 or whatever it is
[12:46] <svigi_wlan> and I get this for all modules
[12:46] <Picillo> Not to be newb, but what is the difference from Ubuntu desktop and the server versions?
[12:47] <bootwoes> hmmm
[12:47] <bootwoes> same result
[12:47] <Mercury> Picillo: Largely the package selection.
[12:47] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: duh!
[12:47] <Celestar> hm
[12:47] <Faileas> o0
[12:47] <bootwoes> maybe ill try ghost for linux
[12:47] <Picillo> I take it the desktop would have more packages?
[12:47] <Faileas> ls in ubuntu server seems.. empty
[12:47] <Celestar> gnome-system-monitor is NOT happy either
[12:48] <manicka> lol, Seveas isn't an Ubuntero either
[12:48] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: ok
[12:48] <manicka> what's going on
[12:48] <bootwoes> thanks for trying
[12:48] <mbm1980> Picillo, it includes needed and exludes not needed packages for a server computer. For example, no GUI.
[12:48] <Seveas> manicka, ?
[12:48] <Faileas> i LSed. and its blank
[12:48] <e_> Faileas, huh? where did you 'ls'?
[12:48] <Picillo> ahh.. So, there is no xwindows on the server version?
[12:49] <Faileas> as soon as it started
[12:49] <manicka> Seveas, your launchapd page says you're not an ubuntero, as does mine
[12:49] <e_> Faileas, 'pwd'
[12:49] <Seveas> hmm, lp broken again.
[12:49] <svigi_wlan> Picillo: it's not installed
[12:49] <manicka> and sabdfl
[12:49] <svigi_wlan> Picillo: and his kernel wouldn't start on older machines
[12:49] <mbm1980> Picillo, not as standard, however you can install it if you like.
[12:49] <svigi_wlan> you need to install the dapper desktop kernel:)
[12:49] <manicka> ok, so nothing to worry about then
[12:49] <Faileas> e_ it says /home/user then
[12:49] <chennaituxian> Picillo: u can install whatever packages/servers you want
[12:50] <Picillo> mbm1980: Thanks for the reply. You to svigi_wlan..
[12:50] <Celestar> damnit
[12:50] <Jereth_da_lion> ok
[12:50] <e_> Faileas, of course it is blank if you have nothing in your home dir. 'touch foo' then 'ls' again
[12:50] <Faileas> but i can't get to /home/user either
[12:50] <svigi_wlan> I'm trying to build a wireless server with an old pentium machine, but madwifi doesn't work well
[12:51] <chennaituxian> Picillo: Ubuntu on the fly is intended to be light, so it has only the basic packages
[12:51] <w^x> wheres the wmv codecs?
[12:51] <Hit3k> !wmv
[12:51] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:51] <svigi_wlan> so my problem is, when I install the kernel modules, I use the 2.6.15-7 kernel source, it says unknown symbol capable
[12:51] <Faileas> e_: its a stock server install with LAMP packages and SSH. i need to reconfigure apache a bit
[12:51] <svigi_wlan> and I googled for it but no luck
[12:51] <Faileas> and i can't find the folder
[12:51] <Celestar> I just want a system monitor working *cries*
[12:51] <Mercury> !FreeFormats
[12:51] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[12:51] <TheSheep> w^x: wmv is patented et all :)
[12:51] <Jereth_da_lion> ok i found it thankies
[12:51] <svigi_wlan> Celestar: you mean iostat?
[12:52] <Celestar> svigi_wlan: preferably CPU usage
[12:52] <chennaituxian> Faileas: same here
[12:52] <Jereth_da_lion> one other thing im pretty sure thisd has a sound card init but im not sure and ubuntu cant find it
[12:52] <svigi_wlan> apt-get install sysstat  if I remember well
[12:52] <svigi_wlan> and there's the top command
[12:52] <svigi_wlan> man top  look at it
[12:52] <Celestar> top is ok
[12:52] <Celestar> but I was thinking something Xish ;)
[12:52] <svigi_wlan> oh I see:)
[12:52] <chennaituxian> Faileas: trying to install LAMP packages, finished but now pondering where is /var/www/html to place my .php files
[12:53] <e_> i don't know about ubuntu-server but if its installed, it should be at /etc/apache2/ for the config files.
[12:53] <e_> damn. i hate telnet lag.
[12:53] <mutante> how is "Utnubu" doing these days?
[12:53] <bootwoes> are the only partitions you need Extended and Linux?
[12:53] <Faileas> chennaituxian: i need to reconfig, since my ISP blocks port 80, and i am trying a server on VMware bridged to a physical connection to my router
[12:53] <Celestar> svigi_wlan: and most monitor have suboptimal output when it comes to multiple CPUs
[12:53] <e_> Faileas, check /etc/apache2/ then.
[12:53] <svigi_wlan> oh I know it
[12:54] <Killaz> what shoudl I do with a *.gz file?
[12:54] <Tobberoth> How do I install fonts? My friend sent me TIMES.TTF, but I couldn't find anything in the wiki about installing
[12:54] <svigi_wlan> Celestar: install the gkrellm daemon
[12:54] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: what are your needs ?
[12:54] <Jereth_da_lion> 256 meg pc  159324kb memtotal whats that mean?
[12:54] <Faileas> no such file or directory
[12:54] <Celestar> svigi_wlan: hm ... gkrellm that's an idea. or karamba
[12:54] <bootwoes> im wondering if im missing a a specific partition
[12:54] <chennaituxian> Faileas: /etc/apache not there ? :o
[12:54] <bootwoes> type
[12:54] <Faileas> but the lamp server was supposed to have been installed
[12:54] <svigi_wlan> I used it in kde and xfce too
[12:54] <Celestar> root@niagara:[/root] # apt-cache search gkrellm
[12:54] <Celestar> root@niagara:[/root] #
[12:54] <Celestar> :(
[12:55] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: u need a / and a swap, both as primary, thats enuf
[12:55] <svigi_wlan> hmm it was in debian
[12:55] <svigi_wlan> celestar, wait a minute
[12:55] <Ng> Celestar: it's in the universe repository
[12:55] <bootwoes> oh
[12:55] <e_> Killaz, gzip -d foo.gz
[12:55] <Faileas> maybe i'll just bloody install gnome, i am getting totally lost, and i want to see the tamil support
[12:55] <svigi_wlan> yes:D
[12:55] <Celestar> Ng: explain?
[12:55] <bootwoes> in that case this probably isnt right
[12:55] <chennaituxian> Celestar: do a apt-cache search for the package
[12:55] <fairy> I've done something wrong when upgrading firefox, I get /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.  I can't open a web-browser to reference the wiki page on how to revert.
[12:55] <svigi_wlan> celestar: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:55] <Ng> Celestar: you need to enable the universe repository in synaptic or in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:55] <bootwoes> Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
[12:55] <bootwoes> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
[12:55] <bootwoes> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:55] <bootwoes>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:55] <bootwoes> /dev/sda1            9638       24321   117949230    5  Extended
[12:55] <bootwoes> /dev/sda2               1        9637    77409171   83  Linux
[12:55] <bootwoes> /dev/sda5            9638       24321   117949198+   b  W95 FAT32
[12:55] <Ng> !tell Celestar about repos
[12:55] <Picillo> With the desktop edition, do I need to install video card drivers or would they be already installed? I had to install some drivers for my Geforce 3 on slackware. Just wondering if it's the same with Ubuntu.
[12:55] <Celestar> nano :((((
[12:55] <Ng> !tell bootwoes about paste
[12:55] <chennaituxian> Faileas: u tamil ?
[12:55] <bootwoes> yes no?
[12:55] <TheSheep> hmmm, there is a warning that grub has problems with xfs, is it serious?
[12:56] <svigi_wlan> or mcedit or whatever you edit
[12:56] <svigi_wlan> gedit
[12:56] <bootwoes> sorry
[12:56] <svigi_wlan> bootwoes what's the problem?
[12:56] <Celestar> vim
[12:56] <Celestar> vim vim vim
[12:56] <TheSheep> Celestar: don't be cruel ;)
[12:56] <Celestar> TheSheep: I code 4h a day in vim
[12:56] <bootwoes> i cant install grub
[12:56] <Ng> Celestar: use whichever editor you like
[12:57] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: u need a primary sda1 --> linux and primary swap, along with a extended sda3 FAT32 ?
[12:57] <Faileas> chennaituxian: yeah, amma was born in coimbature, appa grew up in jaffna, but his parents from TN too ;p
[12:57] <Celestar> I have yet to find an editor which comes close
[12:57] <svigi_wlan> bootwoes do you have multiple operating systems?
[12:57] <TheSheep> Celestar: I code 16h a day in vim, but it's still cruel to a newbie :)
[12:57] <svigi_wlan> yes I see
[12:57] <Celestar> TheSheep: true :)=
[12:57] <Faileas> actually kodumudi no coimbature,... my bad
[12:57] <Ng> editor wars in #ubuntu-offtopic please ;)
[12:57] <bootwoes> how do i fix it?
[12:57] <chennaituxian> Faileas: me too tamil, see my name :d
[12:57] <Faileas> yeah noticed ;p
[12:57] <bootwoes> format the drive?
[12:57] <Faileas> apache2 is there
[12:57] <Faileas> somewhere
[12:57] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: that sounds better
[12:57] <svigi_wlan> grub-install /dev/sda  if you want to install to the drive's mbr
[12:57] <svigi_wlan> as root
[12:58] <fairy> n/m, I figured it out... there's firefox.ubuntu that let's me run the old firefox that works :P
[12:58] <bootwoes> tried that bro
[12:58] <tom__> hello all
[12:58] <svigi_wlan> and grub-install /dev/sda2
[12:58] <tom__> I've got a problem with dapper drake
[12:58] <tom__> can anyone help me (it's about X drivers I guess)
[12:59] <svigi_wlan> and my rtl8169 card doesn't work after rebooting my new kernel
[01:00] <chennaituxian> svigi_wlan: rtl8169 has problems in many kernels
[01:00] <TheSheep> tom__: can you eleborate?
[01:00] <svigi_wlan> but it worked in
[01:00] <makko> my ubuntu has a strange behaviour: all my mc (midnight commander) file browsing is recorded in the bash_history (in this format: cd `echo -en "..."`); what's even more interesting is that each number within a path is represented as some sort of escaped codes (as though it is writing any digit in its ascii code). any idea what this is?
[01:00] <svigi_wlan> dapper desktop kernel
[01:00] <chennaituxian> Faileas: where do u place ur .php files if there is no /var/www/html, any idea ?
[01:01] <Faileas> chennaituxian: the install is so i can learn ;p
[01:01] <chennaituxian> dapper works on fly..
[01:01] <johnnowak> Does anyone here know if it is possible to configure Ubuntu/Debian to use BSD-style init instead of sysv-style? At least in a way that won't break packages?
[01:01] <Elektrochelovek> chennaituxian> try ~/public_html
[01:01] <Insup> check the httpd config to see where the default directory is
[01:01] <chennaituxian> Elektrochelovek: ~/public_html, means create one such dir in my /home/user ?
[01:02] <andrisp> Hello all, is it possible to configure Quanta Plus to keep indending when I press 'Enter' and go to new line ?
[01:02] <andrisp> i mean indenting
[01:02] <Elektrochelovek> chennaituxian > yes
[01:02] <chennaituxian> ok
[01:02] <Elektrochelovek> chennaituxian and then try http://localhost/~yoursusername
[01:02] <tom__> TheSheep: I can't change my resolution to anything else than 640*480, and I have a ati radeon card
[01:03] <Tobberoth> Anyone who knows how to install fonts?
[01:03] <chennaituxian> Elektrochelovek: ok
[01:03] <Elektrochelovek> chennaituxian > and check /etc/apache config files. Search 'public_html' and uncomment related things. You'll find
[01:04] <chennaituxian> Elektrochelovek: no httpd.conf in /etc
[01:04] <svigi_wlan> public_html -> find mod_userdir.c :)
[01:04] <TheSheep> tom__: look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find a line with 'Driver' in it
[01:04] <TheSheep> tom__: what does it say?
[01:05] <TheSheep> tom__: it should be in a 'Section Device'
[01:05] <bimberi> ubotu tell Tobberoth about font
[01:05] <Toma-> Deskbar is so cool :) anyone know if you can use Gaim or amsn with it?
[01:06] <Tobberoth> odd, i searched the wiki for font and didn't find that page O.o
[01:07] <dxdemetriou> Can I set a label on partition without format? I have two the same, and I can't have mounted both of them
[01:07] <vinboy> hi
[01:07] <Subhuman> dxdemetriou, yes.
[01:07] <vinboy> i can mount my removable hard disk, but I CAN"T write to it
[01:07] <Frogzoo> dxdemetriou: tune2fs
[01:07] <svigi_wlan> vinboy, have you got permission?
[01:08] <vinboy> svigi_wlan: wait i check
[01:08] <selaiah> I got an automake version mismatch.. tells me to "recreate" anyone knows what i can do about this?
[01:08] <svigi_wlan> vinboy: in /etc/fstab: add the user flag into your partition
[01:08] <dxdemetriou> Frogzoo, with that will not have problem with journalling?
[01:08] <pyxel> hello, please help me, i can't play anythink in totem, dbg : ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, layer=(int)3, rate=(int)48000, channels=(int)2, codec_data=(buffer)010002000000800101000000
[01:09] <pyxel> with new drapper =)
[01:09] <vinboy> svigi_wlan: it is not writable
[01:09] <vinboy> when I try to chmod, it says "chmod: changing permissions of `sdc1': Read-only file system"
[01:09] <Subhuman> pyxel, do you have universe/multiverse in your repos?
[01:09] <chennaituxian> Elektrochelovek: is this ok... UseDir public_html in apache2.conf ?
[01:09] <svigi_wlan> vinboy: sudo mcedit /etc/fstab and write "user" in
[01:10] <Subhuman> pyxel, "sudo apt-get install w32codecs totem-xine"
[01:10] <pyxel> Subhuman: hi, don't found w32codecs package
[01:10] <Subhuman> pyxel, forget that then, just try "totem-xine"
[01:10] <vinboy> svigi_wlan: u mean add my removable drive into fstab?
[01:11] <svigi_wlan> vinboy: yes, with the user flg
[01:11] <svigi_wlan> flag
[01:11] <svigi_wlan> and with a correct umask setting
[01:11] <TheSheep> pyxel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:11] <vinboy> ic
[01:11] <Matthewv> Subhuman, w32codecs has been deprecated since hoary i believe
[01:12] <Frogzoo> dxdemetriou: run 'tune2fs -L /dev/hd#' while the filesystem is unmounted
[01:12] <Subhuman> Matthewv, what has taken it's place?
[01:12] <weslei> how to install php5 with apache2?
[01:12] <Subhuman> theres no other restriced formats all-in-one pacakhe
[01:13] <Matthewv> Subhuman, nothing i believe.. it was removed because of legal issues, so !restricted lists what to do... but basically it involves installing a stack of gstreamer plugins, or switching to totem-xine and getting some other codecs...
[01:13] <pyxel> apt tell me that he can't find gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[01:13] <halibut> I am trying to search for all files whose filename begins with "."   I have tried   ls -Ra | grep ^.    but this just returns all files, what's the best way to do this?
[01:13] <Matthewv> ubotu, tell me about restricted
[01:13] <pyxel> btw I use xubuntu
[01:14] <ashridah> this is by far a weird issue, but may well just be a kernel issue
[01:14] <Subhuman> Matthewv, thats what i told him to to, get the xine backend and use w32codecs.
[01:14] <Subhuman> there still in my repos, but i dont kno which one as i have not got the standard sources.list
[01:15] <chennaituxian> weslei: apt-get install php5 and apt-get install apache2
[01:15] <sukren> hi
[01:15] <pyxel> Subhuman: I have w32codecs but problem still exist
[01:15] <pyxel> I think that's something with gstreamer
[01:15] <Matthewv> Subhuman, if you want w32codecs it must be downloaded from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[01:15] <vinboy> svigi_wlan: i chown the directory to me, but when I mount it, it change to root by itself
[01:15] <Matthewv> pyxel, ^^^
[01:15] <vinboy> it keeps saying it is a read-only filesystem
[01:16] <pyxel> Matthewv: yes I installed this, but error is still here :o
[01:16] <Subhuman> Matthewv, i have them - itz pyxel wih the problem
[01:16] <Matthewv> pyxel, have you installed totem-xine?
[01:16] <pyxel> Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) - gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[01:17] <pyxel> but this don't work
[01:17] <Subhuman> pyxel, thats why i told you to "sudo apt-get install totem-xine" - that will replace gstreamer with xine, which uses the w32codecs.
[01:17] <svigi_wlan> vinboy try adding umask=000 in fstab again
[01:17] <vinboy> ok
[01:17] <makko> my ubuntu has a strange behaviour: all my mc (midnight commander) file browsing is recorded in the bash_history (in this format: cd `echo -en "..."`); what's even more interesting is that each number within a path is represented as some sort of escaped codes (as though it is writing any digit in its ascii code). any idea what this is?
[01:18] <Matthewv> pyxel, do ogg's work?
[01:18] <TheSheep> Subhuman: I think I saw a gstremer plugin that uses windows dlls too...
[01:18] <pyxel> Subhuman: yes yes i do that he tell me that totem-xine is obselete and it was replace with libtotem-plparser1 libtotem-plparser-dev, I do this but this don't work
[01:19] <mwe> makko: don't you think it is using bash commands and thus they are recorded?
[01:19] <pyxel> Matthewv: wait, i will try
[01:19] <TheSheep> pyxel: totem-xine is not obsolete, w32codecs is :)
[01:19] <tmdca> Hello. I got probs with my laptop (dell latitude c600)...The touchpad looses sync and stops working for a while than its okay again... Any solution?
[01:19] <Matthewv> sry Subhuman i'm probably interfering a bit too much :)
[01:20] <pyxel> TheSheep: aptitude tell mi that totem-xine is :)
[01:21] <Subhuman> dude i gotta go now anyway
[01:21] <TheSheep> pyxel: ok, then use gstreamer-pitfdll
[01:21] <Subhuman> interfere away:P
[01:21] <pyxel> Matthewv: ehm, no ogg don't work, /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: dont'existe :/
[01:21] <TheSheep> pyxel: but you'll need windows's dlls anyways
[01:21] <Intruder> well managed to fix my problem
[01:21] <Intruder> :D:D
[01:21] <pyxel> TheSheep: I has downloaded and installed manualy from mplayer homepage
[01:22] <pyxel> (codecs)
[01:22] <mwe> makko: well I just tried navigating about with mc. it didn't get recorded in .bash_history
[01:22] <Matthewv> pyxel, so its probably not a prob. with the codecs....
[01:22] <pyxel> TheSheep:  gstreamer-pitfdll don't found in rep
[01:22] <Matthewv> pyxel, does sound work anywhere else?
[01:22] <Intruder> thank you all for your help
[01:22] <pyxel> Matthewv: yes xmms works fine
[01:22] <TheSheep> pyxel: gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[01:22] <Celestar> where do I set the default system keyboard? for gdm and stuff
[01:22] <pyxel> TheSheep: again
[01:22] <pyxel> TheSheep: don't found
[01:22] <LiteWait> Hey all.  Does anyone know where ndiswrapper went on Dapper?  I can't find it.
[01:22] <Ng> pyxel: you need to make sure you have the multiverse repository enabled
[01:22] <muf> sex in ubuntu?
[01:23] <pyxel> Ng: ehm, what? :)
[01:23] <TheSheep> pyxel: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[01:23] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: me too searching for the same
[01:23] <Ng> !tell pyxel about repos
[01:23] <Matthewv> pyxel, what about rhythmbox?
[01:23] <makko> mwe: this is strange.
[01:24] <makko> mwe: are you sure you 1. mc-navigated 2. *closed* mc 3. looked in your bash_history?
[01:25] <d34db14ck> I't seems that there is no Xvideo suppoer for your video card available. this is what i get when trying to play something in Mplayer
[01:25] <d34db14ck> the movie plays but only in window mode and it's crappy
[01:25] <LiteWait> Also, my Mobility/P that used to work at 1400x  now only works allows 1024x768, how do I tweak resolution?
[01:26] <mwe> makko: yes, yes and yes
[01:26] <Jereth_da_lion> can you get drivers for most pcmia ethernet cards
[01:26] <pyxel> Matthewv: dunno i see wait please
[01:26] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: try adding that mode in xconfig and restart x ?
[01:27] <chennaituxian> i meant org.conf
[01:27] <chennaituxian> xorg.conf*
[01:27] <makko> mwe: in which order :P
[01:27] <vinboy> svigi_wlan: I know what is wrong now... the removable disk is using NTFS!!! arghhhh
[01:27] <vinboy> thanks for your help
[01:27] <mwe> makko: that same order of course
[01:27] <LiteWait> chennaituxian -- will try thanks
[01:27] <svigi_wlan> yes ntfs is sucks
[01:28] <mwe> ntfs is a decent fs
[01:28] <vinboy> it is better to use fat32?
[01:28] <mwe> to bad the specs are closed
[01:28] <d34db14ck> I't seems that there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. this is what i get when trying to play something in Mplayer
[01:28] <mjr> vinboy, better for Linux interoperability, yes
[01:28] <nandemonai> greetings, just curious, is the installer cd also a live cd for dapper 6.06.. most mirrors only have server, desktop and alternate iso's
[01:28] <TheSheep> nandemonai: yes
[01:28] <nandemonai> ahh execcellent
[01:28] <alth> This is probably a stupid question, but what's the quickest way to change my computer name?
[01:28] <nandemonai> thanks
[01:29] <vinboy> ic ic
[01:29] <vinboy> nvm
[01:29] <Frogzoo> alth: /etc/hostname & /etc/hosts & reboot
[01:29] <mwe> makko: I have no idea why mc would give that odd bash_history
[01:30] <Jereth_da_lion> enroll it in the catholic church
[01:30] <TheSheep> Frogzoo: reboot inst' fast at all ;)
[01:30] <Frogzoo> alth: alternatively, just 'sudo hostname' - but you'll lose settings on reboot
[01:30] <Rambo3> bit wise & ?
[01:30] <mandavi> hi, how do I delete a symbolic link as root without deleting the actual file? is it simply 'rm file'?
[01:31] <chennaituxian> alth: change hosname in the network config gui and see, am not sure
[01:31] <pyxel> Matthewv: argh, new error: /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: file don't exist, that's something about sound ? can I tall to totem to use alsa ?
[01:31] <muf> czech?
[01:31] <svigi_wlan> mandavi, yes you remove only the link, and not the original file
[01:31] <alth> Ok, thanks.
[01:31] <selaiah> Anyone ever managed to get being a shout/icecast source, to work with XMMS ?
[01:31] <svigi_wlan> try it with dummy files
[01:32] <mandavi> svigi_wlan: is that also valid for symbolic foders?
[01:32] <Matthewv> pyxel, press alt-F2 then type gstreamer-properties and hit enter.. make sure it is set right.. eg alsa.. or something that works (test)
[01:32] <chennaituxian> mandavi, deleting symbolic links wont delete files, only hard links do
[01:32] <mandavi> svigi_wlan: *folders
[01:32] <svigi_wlan> i didn't try it
[01:32] <svigi_wlan> i use it only for symbolic file links
[01:32] <chennaituxian> mandavi, create a dymmy dir , link it and try
[01:32] <mandavi> chennaituxian: alright
[01:33] <Gerbils> How can I apply a config file (like the one from Awstats), so new settings will be applied?
[01:33] <svigi_wlan> will these work? cd /usr/src/linux; make clean; make modules; make modules_install; make bzImage; make install
[01:33] <svigi_wlan> in these order
[01:34] <chennaituxian> Gerbils: put the config pile in your ~/ directory
[01:34] <Gerbils> chennaituxian: ?
[01:34] <d34db14ck> how can i install xvideo support for nvidia?
[01:34] <Ng> d34db14ck: if you've installed the binary drivers it should have Xv support
[01:34] <codecaine_> im on my laptop on ubuntu is there a program that can supprose my mousepad
[01:34] <Ng> !tell d34db14ck about nvidia
[01:34] <d34db14ck> ng: binary drivers?
[01:35] <codecaine_> so it doesn't click when I scroll
[01:35] <Ng> d34db14ck: see the URL ubotu just messaged you
[01:35] <alth> Restarting x-session.
[01:35] <chennaituxian> Gerbils: what kinda config are you trying to apply ?
[01:35] <d34db14ck> Ng ;ty
[01:35] <Gerbils> chennaituxian: The one from Awstats.
[01:35] <Ng> Gerbils: the example one?
[01:35] <Gerbils> chennaituxian: It didn't read my logs in combined mode. I changed the config file now. But it still doesn't seem to work.
[01:36] <Gerbils> chennaituxian: So my guess is Awstats doesn't run the new settings yet. And I have to restart it in some way.
[01:36] <Ng> Gerbils: by default it looks at /etc/awstats/awstats.conf and /etc/awstats/awstats.conf.local (which is where you should make changes ideally)
[01:36] <chennaituxian> place your config files in ur /home/username dir and check if it works, provided ur /home/username is in the PATH
[01:36] <Ng> chennaituxian: awstats doesn't check home directories for configs
[01:36] <Ng> it's a system tool
[01:36] <pyxel> mandavi: lol totem run anyway :p
[01:36] <Ng> Gerbils: by default awstats only updates every 10 minutes
[01:36] <pyxel> Matthewv: (totem:23595): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:37] <pyxel> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:37] <Gerbils> Ng: It's not about updating but about new settings.
[01:37] <iiiears> Totem player is awful - lol
[01:37] <iiiears> MPlayer!
[01:37] <Gerbils> Ng: Or should that be done automatically?
[01:37] <Ng> Gerbils: I don't think it will re-generate existing stats, you'd need to clear out its data and run all your logs through it again manually
[01:37] <chennaituxian> Gerbils: then place or replace the config files, where Ng said
[01:37] <LiteWait> chennaituxian -- edited xorg.conf but those modes don't show in the screen resolution tool from the menu.
[01:37] <Gerbils> chennaituxian: That is where they are.
[01:38] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: then with your current drivers, the display mode is not supported
[01:38] <Gerbils> Ng: Is it not so that it should just use the new settings?
[01:38] <gharz> guys... i can't find in the internet what differences do ubuntu breezy & drapper have... what are the differences?
[01:39] <Jereth_da_lion> is linux easy on the ram or does it eat it up like xp
[01:39] <Ng> Gerbils: it probably will use the new settings for new logs, but it won't magically figure out all the extra information from your old logs
[01:39] <Frogzoo> gharz: about 6 months :D
[01:39] <pyxel> Matthewv: damn i dont understand :(
[01:39] <LiteWait> hmm...worked with Breezy seemingly the same driver.  Maybe I didn't close down X conpletely.
[01:39] <Gerbils> Jereth_da_lion: Depends on usage, but it uses less.
[01:39] <Ng> Jereth_da_lion: that depends how much stuff you run
[01:39] <mandavi> does someone have the same problem with video that they run slow since dapper and there is a diagonal cut from the upper left to the lower right corner?
[01:39] <ifr> I just can't remember for the life of me the nmap command to scan an AP and show all the hosts connected to it. Can anyone help?
[01:40] <Gerbils> Ng: What if it doesn't use the setting for new logs..
[01:40] <gharz> Frogzoo, what do u mean about 6 months? the release dates are different? how about the features?
[01:40] <Matthewv> pyxel, you can't run gstreamer-properties ??
[01:40] <Frogzoo> gharz: ff1.5, clean LAMP setup, Taskjuggler, gnome 2.14 amongst others
[01:40] <Ng> Gerbils: then you'd need to investigate as to why
[01:40] <ifr> and man nmap doesn't just offer it up as an example
[01:40] <svigi_wlan> ifr, try iwlist wlan0 scan
[01:40] <Tobberoth> How do I configure my USB printer i just plugged in?
[01:40] <gharz> Frogzoo, thanks!
[01:40] <svigi_wlan> or not
[01:40] <Gerbils> Ng: The problem is that it doesn't recognise browser and robots.
[01:40] <svigi_wlan> iwlist eth2 peers
[01:40] <ifr> svigi_wlan that shows APs, not hosts connected to the AP I am on
[01:40] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: its always problem with this resolution stuff, it works at one place and not in the other
[01:40] <ifr> ?
[01:41] <pyxel> Matthewv: yes
[01:41] <svigi_wlan> the peers command lists all those, who are connected to your AP
[01:41] <pyxel> Matthewv: thanks anyway, i must go
[01:41] <Ng> Gerbils: hit the website a few times and wait until the next awstats cron job has run (tail -f /var/log/syslog) and see if it's doing it now
[01:41] <pyxel> thanks everybody !
[01:41] <Matthewv> no probs pyxel so do i :)
[01:41] <slackern> gharz: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html read the part about  highlights for this release
[01:41] <ifr> nice. except I got eth1      Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[01:41] <Tobberoth> nwm, i found it i think
[01:41] <ifr> There's an nmap command for this which works GREAT and I can't remember it ;(
[01:41] <Gerbils> Ng: It didn't :(
[01:41] <svigi_wlan> nmap?
[01:41] <svigi_wlan> i don't think so
[01:42] <svigi_wlan> try the wlanconfig command
[01:42] <ifr> I have used it many times, but KEEP forgettint
[01:42] <ifr> BUt I am positive about the nmap thing
[01:42] <svigi_wlan> are you using madwifi?
[01:42] <ifr> Nope
[01:43] <Gerbils> Ng: Logs are set combined, Awstats is set to read them as combined and Awstats is set to recognise robots. I have also waited through several cron and even restarted Apache. Still no luck..
[01:43] <svigi_wlan> wlanconfig eth1 list active  try this
[01:43] <ifr> ok
[01:43] <LiteWait> chennaituxian - reboot fixed it I am now running at 1400x1050.  Thanks...now if I could only find ndiswrapper :-(
[01:43] <Ng> Gerbils: has the site had any hits in that time? it may well be that no robots have been to it since you updated the configs
[01:43] <ifr> lemme try
[01:43] <noiesmo> ifr, theres a gui for nmap called nmapfe you can pick options and it will scan also shows the commandline
[01:43] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: if u found that one, temme too ;)
[01:44] <svigi_wlan> or ifr, you mean to scan a whole IP pool?
[01:44] <Mewshi> I love ubuntu
[01:44] <ifr> Thanks noiesmo
[01:44] <Gerbils> Ng: Yes, google, me and yahoo have visited it.
[01:44] <ifr>  nmap -oN activehosts.txt -vv -sP 192.168.0.0/24
[01:44] <ifr> something like that
[01:44] <kbrooks_> vbgunz: hey
[01:44] <chennaituxian> Mewshi: we all do !
[01:44] <gharz> slackern, thanks!
[01:44] <Mewshi> ubuntu is a lot better than debian
[01:44] <edneymatias> hello!
[01:45] <Ng> Gerbils: well then i would suggest that you check the configs again, but it definitely does work because I use awstats and combined logs
[01:45] <Nookie^> Mewshi: sometimes... but sometimes not
[01:45] <chennaituxian> Mewshi: no comments ;|
[01:45] <Mewshi> in my experience, it is
[01:45] <darth_> join #dcb
[01:45] <chennaituxian> Mewshi: ubuntu needs more community support
[01:45] <svigi_wlan> ifr, but your host blocks the ping it won't work
[01:45] <svigi_wlan> -sP is a ping scanning
[01:45] <Mewshi> i don't think so.
[01:46] <chennaituxian> Mewshi: why so ?
[01:46] <Mewshi> i mean, look at debian; their irc channel is a bunch of pricks...
[01:46] <Nookie^> can someone help me to test one bug which i found in ubuntu for xmms
[01:46] <Samuli^> chennaituxian, what are you saying?  Ubuntu has  great, supportive community.
[01:47] <chennaituxian> Mewshi: ubuntu has great supportive community.. am one amongst it too
[01:47] <Faileas> ;p
[01:47] <Mewshi> O-o
[01:47] <Mewshi> what?
[01:47] <Faileas> chennaituxian: i might have an answer to the apache thing, one moment ;p
[01:47] <Gerbils> Ng: Are there any other things I have to do to make it recognise robots/browsers? Other then the three things I mentioned?
[01:47] <iiiears> Good Morning Kamping_Kaiser
[01:47] <chennaituxian> Faileas: good, ;)
[01:47] <Jereth_da_lion> i need a simple answer to a simple question : once you get used to ubuntu it is eiaier to use then xp
[01:47] <Gerbils> It's different to use then xp
[01:47] <Mewshi> jereth_da_lion - YES
[01:47] <Samuli^> Jereth_da_lion, I'd say.
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey iiiears
[01:48] <Mewshi> 99% of the software you'll ever use is only a few clicks away, and much easier to install that on windows.
[01:48] <svigi_wlan> goodbye
[01:48] <Gerbils> It totally depends on your usage Jereth_da_lion
[01:48] <Jereth_da_lion> will i need to learn the command line commands by heart to do basic things
[01:48] <Ng> Gerbils: nope
[01:48] <Jereth_da_lion> graphic art
[01:48] <chennaituxian> Mewshi and Samuli^: afraid you misunderstood my words
[01:48] <Samuli^> Jereth_da_lion, no, but it helps.
[01:48] <Jereth_da_lion> i am looking now to aquire maya 7 for linux
[01:48] <Gerbils> Jereth_da_lion: Just give it a try!
[01:49] <Mewshi> They make maya for linux?
[01:49] <Jereth_da_lion> is thier a list in side linux of commands
[01:49] <MadMerC> can someone tell me how to add a cd as a repo using the command line please ???
[01:49] <chennaituxian> Jereth_da_lion: command line is more powerful than gui
[01:49] <Faileas> chennaituxian: first cd /etc
[01:49] <Gerbils> Jereth_da_lion: Or install vmware under Windows so you can see if it is for you :)
[01:49] <chennaituxian> Faileas: ok, then
[01:49] <Faileas> cd apache2
[01:49] <chennaituxian> ok
[01:49] <iiiears> I really like this list of bash commands http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[01:50] <Rambo3> man apt-cdrom
[01:50] <Faileas> sudo (editorofchoice) apache2.conf
[01:50] <Jereth_da_lion> yea i know but command line scares me i tried linux before and i couldnt get it to even read a cd
[01:50] <Faileas> then look there
[01:50] <Mewshi> I think there should be separate channels for ubuntu
[01:50] <Faileas> seperate from?
[01:50] <fairy> What's a good download manager I can use in Ubuntu?   I want to schedule and queue several downloads.
[01:50] <chennaituxian> Faileas: i did change the UserDir settings there, uncommented UserDir settings
[01:51] <Mewshi> Jereth_da_lion - ubuntu is different.  Very rarely will you need to touch a command line
[01:51] <Faileas> chennaituxian: restrated apache then?
[01:51] <Jereth_da_lion> thank goodness is it safe from viruses and such
[01:51] <chennaituxian> I havent checked yet..
[01:51] <fairy> Jereth_da_lion, Ubuntu's fairly forgiving for a Linux distribution :)  I've managed it so far.
[01:52] <chennaituxian> Faileas: join #ubuntu-in
[01:52] <fairy> and there's a very wonderful group of people (here, and on the wiki) to help when you encounter stumbling blocks.
[01:52] <Jereth_da_lion> that link dont work
[01:52] <iiiears> download manger. hm.. sleep command and wget from the command line. - (Ah okay it depends on how many files you need at one time.)
[01:52] <chennaituxian> fairy: righto!
[01:52] <Jereth_da_lion> ok well ive got it on my 20quid lapptop as a testbed i need to get it online next weekor so
[01:52] <Faileas> chennaituxian: i'm not in india
[01:52] <Faileas> i'm in singai ;p
[01:52] <Faileas> (singapore)
[01:52] <kholerabbi> Dose anyone know a non-command line way off closing a non responding program??
[01:53] <chennaituxian> Faileas: but still u can be thee ;)
[01:53] <fairy> iiiears, really only two, but, since I'm on dial-up, it pays to get a single file at a time, and I can only be online for extended periods late at night (it's actually morning now :P)
[01:53] <fairy> and I was looking for a solution to use in general, cause I'm sure I'll need it again.
[01:53] <Faileas> too many channels as is ;p
[01:53] <iiiears> ps -e to list it then killall <process ID number>
[01:53] <chennaituxian> Faileas: aha!
[01:53] <Samuli^> kholerabbi, system monitor?
[01:53] <Faileas> i am in #suse,#windows and #reactos ;p
[01:53] <fairy> kholerabbi, system monitor lets you kill processes
[01:53] <Faileas> already
[01:53] <chennaituxian> Faileas: #windows :O
[01:53] <LiteWait> chennaituxian - ndiswrapper in on the dapper cd, just "find" the .deb and install using dpkg.
[01:54] <Faileas> chennaituxian: windows is what we mostly use at work
[01:54] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: thanx dude
[01:54] <Jereth_da_lion> what was the games link again ?
[01:54] <Faileas> and well, i'm a platform agnostic ;p
[01:54] <chennaituxian> Faileas: its been 3 yrs since i logged in into a windows machine
[01:54] <kholerabbi> How do I open system monitor?
[01:54] <fairy> iiiears, sleep/wget would work if I were broadband me thinks, but since I'm dial-up, I don't think Ubuntu knows to connect when I attempt network activity.
[01:55] <Samuli^> koholerabbi system/administration/system monitor
[01:55] <mlowe> wget has resume
[01:55] <fairy> kholerabbi, in a default ubuntu installation it's under applications -> system tools
[01:55] <Faileas> chennaituxian: i have 2 linux distros and windows running in this room right now ;p
[01:55] <tritohc> so i think i f'd up my repositories and i'm not entirely sure of my backup either.
[01:55] <chennaituxian> kholerabbi: rather ads it to your panel, just a click will open it for yoou ;)
[01:55] <fairy> mlowe, resume's not the issue, it's dialing my connection at the proper time :)
[01:55] <tritohc> can i get a default off the install cd?
[01:56] <Samuli^> kholerabbi, just look it in the menus, it's in different place if you're using breezy or dapper.
[01:56] <chennaituxian> Faileas: my lappy came with windowz and its still there, but i don use :P
[01:56] <Samuli^> tritohc, what do you mean?
[01:56] <Faileas> chennaituxian: my laptop is windows only, i am on a SUSE install off my USB hdd
[01:56] <mlowe> fairy, you can use cron or at to run coommand at a particular time
[01:56] <Faileas> ubuntu is being tested to replace my WAMP server
[01:56] <chennaituxian> tritohc: what defaults ?
[01:57] <Pat__rick> Hello, I am having problems upgrading to 6.06, i tried following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades and created a CD to upgrade from it but the upgrader keeps connecting to the net and is trying to download over 150Megs on a dial up line!
[01:57] <Pat__rick> anyone has any idea how I can fix this ?
[01:57] <kholerabbi> Is there a keyboard shortcut to the system monitor?? (I believe widnows has a ctrl-alt-delete command)??
[01:57] <tritohc> samuli^: "The following packages have unresolvable dependencies"
[01:58] <fairy> mlowe, ^^; maybe I'm just expecting too much.  Really kinda was hoping for something similar to flashget for windows, it manages dialing a connection and everything :P  cron could schedule the connection, but, I don't know how I'd script it to know when it's actually connected and then start the downloads :P
[01:58] <Samuli^> tritohc, have you tried apt-get install -f?
[01:58] <kane77> hello... Is there anything for opening .rar files?? something advanced which can open passworded and split rars.. (eg filename.part1.rar, or .r00 etc..)
[01:58] <chennaituxian> kholerabbi: is said one shortcut for you, add it to panel
[01:59] <iiiears> Download manager.  d4x i looks pretty good.  (Haven't tried this.)   sudo apt-get install d4x
[01:59] <chennaituxian> tritohc: always try apt-get dude, it solves dependencies
[01:59] <NET||abuse> it's be nice if you could right click in naughtilus and select "open terminal here"
[01:59] <Samuli^> kane77, unrar? :D
[01:59] <NET||abuse> is there something like that around at all?
[01:59] <tritohc> Broken packages?
[02:00] <mlowe> fairy, use at to make connection, then once connection is made, you can wget the files
[02:00] <kholerabbi> ciao thanks
[02:00] <kane77> Samuli^, but I'm not sure wheter it extracts passworded and split archives...
[02:00] <Samuli^> kane77, it does.
[02:00] <albacker> guys, what's new in daper that wasn't in breezy?
[02:00] <kane77> Samuli^, Ok thanx...
[02:00] <chennaituxian> Daper roxxs in laptops
[02:01] <teckfatt> albacker: shutdown button windows
[02:01] <Pupeno> Does anybody know how do I write down in GnuCash the fact that I went to a bank and changed euros into pounds ?
[02:01] <Samuli^> kane77, and I mean the unrar command line, not the archive manager with rar-support. (it doesn't do passworded)
[02:01] <albacker> chennaituxian, what if i dont use a laptop
[02:01] <tritohc> why would a package be broken?
[02:01] <iiiears> Gutenprint - A more printer support.
[02:01] <chennaituxian> albacker: i said based on my experience :)
[02:01] <albacker> teckfatt, i dont think linuxers use linux cos it's like windows.. i dont call the shutdown button a new thing, i think it should get removed. anywya is there any new thing ?
[02:02] <chennaituxian> tritohc: thats out of our hands,many reasons
[02:02] <chennaituxian> try a different repos
[02:02] <tritohc> ok
[02:02] <mlowe> albacker, the release notes have a good sumary of what is new
[02:02] <Killaz> have you guys heard of snort?
[02:02] <albacker> mlowe, can you help me where to find it ?
[02:02] <fairy> Hrm... mlowe, hate to be a bother, but, how do I detect if the connection is actually established? or would I just schedule the connection command, and then schedule the downloads for like 3 minutes later (a safe amount of time to assume that a connection can be made.)
[02:02] <mlowe> albacker, 1 min
[02:03] <albacker> yhanks mlehrer
[02:03] <fairy> If it's too much trouble, no worries :)  just trying to figure it out, it'd actually be pretty nifty if there's a way to detect that, could just write a shell script to function as a connection/download manager :)
[02:03] <dingdong> whats the url to download ubuntu 6.0.6 Live cd??
[02:03] <mlowe> fairy, 1 script make connection, then wget -c all the file you need
[02:03] <albacker> s/ mlehrer  / mlowe
[02:04] <fairy> could even have it disconnect when finished downloading :)
[02:04] <chennaituxian> dingdong: check the ubuntu.org site
[02:04] <fairy> mlowe, but it's dial-up, the connection doesn't always go through, how do I detect if the connection was established properly?
[02:04] <fairy> or does pon keep retrying?
[02:04] <lilbit> I have downloaded vmware as a tar file, I have extratec the contents to a folder, and inisde is a *.pl that is the istall file, I forgot how to run a perl file like that to install, what is the syntax for running the pl file
[02:04] <lilbit> like ./
[02:05] <fairy> either way, pon executes immediately, and it'd execute wget before the connection was established, wouldn't it?
[02:05] <lilbit> or something like that?
[02:05] <mlowe> albacker, http://www.ubuntu.com/news/606released
[02:05] <albacker> mlowe, so ?
[02:05] <lilbit> can someone give me a quick tip on that
[02:05] <teckfatt> dingdong: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:05] <mlowe> lilbit, ./perlfilename
[02:05] <chennaituxian> lilbit, ./filename will do
[02:05] <fairy> IE: pon ppp0 && wget urlhere.    wget would fail cause no connection had been established despite the connection starting to be made :)
[02:06] <albacker> mlowe, thnx.
[02:06] <iiiears> dingdong - There some free file integrity checkers for you. md5summer. filealyzer (Windows)
[02:06] <lilbit> mlowe, thanks
[02:06] <lilbit> chennaituxian, thanks
[02:06] <mlowe> fairy, what is your connect comman ?
[02:07] <dingdong> guys not able to find still ubuntu 6.0.6 Live CD
[02:07] <dingdong> i check ubuntu.com/download alsa
[02:08] <fairy> mlowe, fairly sure it's pon ppp0.
[02:08] <LiteWait> ndiswrapper installs, wg111v2 won't load (it did with Breezy).  Anyone have a PCMCIA WiFi that just worked with Dapper?
[02:08] <jerethaway> how long ubuntu been around
[02:08] <Frogzoo> !ubuntu
[02:08] <ubotu> methinks ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[02:09] <Faileas> hmm
[02:09] <Faileas> is there an IRC server for ubuntu?
[02:09] <Hobbsee> Faileas: this is it, i thi;nk
[02:09] <Faileas> or would i need to download and install it some way?
[02:09] <Faileas> no no
[02:10] <Faileas> i mean to host your own
[02:10] <Faileas> like unreal or ircd
[02:10] <dingdong> teckfatt, iiiears chennaituxian where to find ubuntu Live CD?
[02:10] <mlowe> fairy, do you know shell programming ?
[02:10] <bimberi> jerethaway: first release was October 2004
[02:10] <bimberi> dingdong: it's the Desktop CD
[02:11] <jerethaway> wow 2 years 3 subreleases and a huge following it cant be that bad
[02:11] <lilbit> when I try to install vmware, I get the following "None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for your
[02:11] <lilbit> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for
[02:11] <lilbit> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?"
[02:11] <lilbit> then I proceed and I am told that install could not find the make utility
[02:11] <jerethaway> are kubuntu and xubuntu comprable in design ?
[02:11] <lilbit> do install gnu make?
[02:11] <fairy> mlowe, very basics, I don't claim to be a guru by any means. :)  the only thing I'm having trouble grasping is a method of detecting if/when the connection is actually there.
[02:11] <lilbit> and is that all?
[02:11] <dingdong> bimberi,  are you sure its not install cd and its a Live cd ??
[02:11] <Faileas> lilbit: do you have gni make?
[02:11] <fairy> cause I can run pon ppp0 all day long and if it's a shitty day :P it's possible it wouldn't connect ;)
[02:11] <Faileas> *gnu
[02:11] <lilbit> Faileas, no, don't have installed yet
[02:12] <Faileas> you need it
[02:12] <mlowe> fairy, ifconfig ppp0 will show if connection is made
[02:12] <bimberi> dingdong: it's a live cd that you can also install on - a first for ubuntu with this release
[02:12] <noiesmo> jerethaway, on is kde on xfce but the base is the same
[02:12] <albacker> i like UBUNTU, why should someone get kUBUNTU or smth like it ? gnome is the best..
[02:12] <noiesmo> on/one
[02:12] <bimberi> dingdong: s/on/from/
[02:12] <dingdong> bimberi, thanks
[02:12] <fairy> really? x.X; I thought that was only for NICs.  -checks-
[02:12] <Faileas> lilbit:  you need GCC and make IIRC, if you have issues, you may also need the any-any patch
[02:12] <fairy> ... how about that.
[02:12] <fairy> thanks mlowe :)
[02:12] <mlowe> yw
[02:13] <albacker> fairy, you use dial up ?
[02:13] <Faileas> albacker: i tend to prefer KDE, its a matter of different styles, its whatever suits you the best
[02:13] <dv_> hey people
[02:13] <fairy> albacker, yes.
[02:13] <mlowe> also pon, may return (sucess, or fail )
[02:13] <fairy> mlowe does it?  I've not seen that... -does another man command-
[02:13] <albacker> fairy, if you run dial up ? ou should run pppconfig first, create a connection, remember the name and do pon connection_name; or just run wvdial, !
[02:14] <albacker> pon connects poff disconnects.
[02:14] <fairy> I'm ignorant on wvdial :) but, I've been connecting through pon :)
[02:14] <fairy> albeit configured through ubuntu's networking :)
[02:14] <Faileas> hmm
[02:15] <albacker> fairy, run pppconfig.
[02:15] <Faileas> looks like i need a FTPD as well
[02:15] <Faileas> and some way to download stuff
[02:15] <fairy> The trick I was trying to accomplish and talking to mlowe about was how to schedule it to connect and download files at a certain time :) I couldn't figure out how to detect if the connection was made successfully.
[02:15] <iiiears> dingdong - If you need the Live/Install disk image it is on DVD, DVDs are  large and are (volunteer effort?) hosted on bittorrent links.
[02:15] <lilbit> Faileas, thank you for your help
[02:15] <lilbit> I will try that
[02:15] <fairy> albacker, I've already got a proper config file ^^;
[02:16] <jerethaway> how can they make it free or does everyone contribute to the effert
[02:17] <Samuli^> can you order ubuntu-dvd's?
[02:17] <mlowe> jerethaway, ubuntu main page has how to contribute
[02:17] <salah> hi. my laptop don't work so well if I plug in the power, why not?
[02:18] <iiiears> Comepletely free is truely amazing. - They will even mail a disk to your door via "shipit" for nothing.
[02:18] <iiiears> !shipit
[02:18] <ubotu> For free ubuntu CDs visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ . For kubuntu CDs visit http://shipit.kubuntu.org . For edubuntu CDs - http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[02:18] <albacker> fairy, if you have configured everything right ? than, what's the problem bothering you?
[02:18] <chennaituxian> mlowe: are u serious ?
[02:18] <mlowe> yes
[02:19] <Faileas> ok, another dumb question
[02:19] <chennaituxian> what does ur power monitor say ?
[02:19] <jerethaway> im  no programmer or anything fancy though all i do is high detail textures
[02:20] <Faileas> if i am on a CLI interface how do i find, and download packages i need, short of finding URLS, writing them down, and wgetting em
[02:20] <bimberi> Samuli^: no, you can only download the dvd image.  I'm sure there would be third parties that would sell them though
[02:20] <mlowe> jerethaway, they need translators, and artist
[02:20] <jerethaway> well ill see what i can do
[02:20] <fairy> albacker, I was trying to figure out how to schedule a connection, then execute commands once the connection was established.  Everything I'd known up to the point indicated that it'd run the command, then attempt to run the next command despite the connection not being complete and only in progress, causing the second command to fail :)
[02:20] <lilbit> in my case, I am trying to install vmware  workstation 5.5, and it requires that I have GCC installed, my question is, I noticed that I have 2 versions of GCC installed, but not others, so does a program install require a specific version of GCC, and if so, how do I know what version it wants?
[02:20] <jerethaway> does the standad ubuntu disk have scorched 3d on it ?
[02:20] <Faileas> lilbit: it'll ask you
[02:20] <Fjodor> Faileas: You could apt-cache search <name>, then sudo apt-get install <package>
[02:21] <Faileas> Fjodor: the packages are not there
[02:21] <Fjodor> Faileas: Or you could use aptitude
[02:21] <chennaituxian> fairy, u can write a script to do that
[02:21] <Fjodor> Faileas: Hmmm
[02:21] <Faileas> Fjodor: from CLI?
[02:21] <Faileas> and aptitude?
[02:21] <Fjodor> Faileas: aptitude is like synaptic, but CLI
[02:21] <bimberi> jerethaway: nope
[02:22] <Faileas> lol
[02:22] <fairy> chennaituxian, -nods- working on it, or trying anyways :)
[02:22] <albacker> fairy, i didnt get it.. :(
[02:22] <lilbit> Faileas, it did not ask, but even though by default it looks like dapper comes with 3.0 and 4.0 installed, I guess maybe it's looking for 3.4
[02:22] <chennaituxian> Faileas: are you a LAMP guy ?
[02:22] <Fjodor> Faileas: Btw., you could browse and download with 'links'
[02:22] <albacker> fairy, to connect into the itnernet, all i do  is pppconfig; than pon connection namel; than poff; if poff doesnt work i just use killall pppd !
[02:22] <aalya> hello, i dotn understand the doc, how can i do for have the permission for my ntfs partition, ty
[02:22] <Faileas> chennaituxian: WAMP, trying to learn LAMP
[02:22] <Fjodor> Faileas: links is a cli browser
[02:22] <Faileas> ahh
[02:22] <chennaituxian> Faileas: good
[02:22] <lilbit> what is LAMP?
[02:22] <_grout> when i install dapper on my sata drive when i restart it says error loading OS
[02:22] <iiiears> !lamp
[02:23] <mlowe> albacker, his problem is solved (i think)
[02:23] <ic56> aalya: what is the problem with your NTFS?
[02:23] <iiiears> Linux Apache Mysql PHP lamp
[02:23] <Faileas> lilbit: Linux Apache Mysql Php
[02:23] <chennaituxian> fairy, script = pon, check the log with grep, if true proceed the download...
[02:23] <Faileas> though Mysql and PHP are sometimes changed
[02:23] <chennaituxian> ya
[02:23] <iiiears> !botsnack
[02:23] <ubotu> thanks iiiears :)
[02:23] <chennaituxian> Perl, python also holds true
[02:24] <Tobberoth> hmm.. cat /proc/asound/cards lists my audigy2
[02:24] <Tobberoth> but I still get no sound in abuse
[02:24] <lilbit> Faileas, so then what is WAMP?
[02:24] <aalya> ic56, i cant read it only in root :(
[02:24] <albacker> mlowe, well i couldn't know it, because i still didn't understand his problem :S
[02:24] <_grout> when i install dapper on my sata drive when i restart it says error loading OS, how to i change bootloader settings during install?
[02:24] <Faileas> lilbit: Windows Apache Mysql Php
[02:24] <agt> hi folks, I am able to play a DVD with Totem or Xine on 6.06 i386... but without sound ! I do get sound with Rhythmbox / Radio though. Any idea ?
[02:24] <fairy> chennaituxian :)
[02:24] <aalya> ic56, i dont understand what i do add in my fstab
[02:24] <iiiears> !ubotu lamp is Linux Apache MySQL and PHP.
[02:24] <ubotu> ...but lamp is already something else...
[02:24] <Faileas> however Mac AMP is called AMP as well ;p
[02:24] <fairy> thanks muchly for all the help :)
[02:25] <Faileas> !lamp
[02:25] <chennaituxian> ur welcome, fairy
[02:25] <wes> how do i get the MS fonts on this ubuntu system like i did with my suse??
[02:25] <lilbit> Faileas, ok
[02:25] <Frogzoo> !lamp
[02:25] <Corey> hello im about to learn c++ i need a compiler apprently
[02:25] <_grout> lol
[02:25] <mlowe> wes, apt-get install mstcorefonts
[02:25] <chennaituxian> Faileas: LAMP has many variants
[02:25] <traveller> i'm using dapper and the only audio i get from tvtime is static, anyone know why is this?
[02:25] <ic56> aalya: I think I know what's wrong.  There are 3 ways we can proceed. 1. I can walk you through it manually, explaining each step.  2. I can tell you to download a tool that will do this for you automatically.  3. I can tell you to download the latest version of that tool which I need tested.  Pick 1-3.
[02:25] <agt> Corey: g++ ?
[02:25] <Faileas> Corey: just a compiler or a programming environment?
[02:26] <chennaituxian> corey, compilers are there, man g++
[02:26] <albacker> Corey, apt-get install g++
[02:26] <dv_> I just got an external hard drive (250 gb), and wonder what FS I should use. fat32 is clearly not useful for 250gb, and I want to avoid multiple partitions
[02:26] <Faileas> chennaituxian: i am aware of that, almost everything in a WAMP stack is swappable
[02:26] <Faileas> dv_: what OSes? and what purpose?
[02:26] <agt> dv_: do you need to read/write from Windows ?
[02:26] <chennaituxian> corey, if u want GUI try eclipse, anjuta
[02:26] <wes> how do i do that??
[02:26] <dv_> should I use ext2? it should be readable from windows too, and there are some extra tools for windows to read ext2
[02:26] <Faileas> dv_: it works pretty well
[02:27] <aalya> ic56, the nale Pick 1-3 ?
[02:27] <dv_> but I do not know how reliable they are
[02:27] <chennaituxian> dv_ windows cant read ext2/3 on its own
[02:27] <lilbit> "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:27] <lilbit> kernel?" now I am getting this, and when I just hit enter it says that the directory is invalid/
[02:27] <agt> wes: open a Terminal, then type: "apt-get install mstcorefonts"
[02:27] <aalya> ic56, nale = name*
[02:27] <Frogzoo> dv_: you can access ext3 with the windows ext2 driver - obviously this runs without journalling
[02:27] <dv_> chennaituxian, yes, thats what I mean with extra tools
[02:27] <_grout> when i install dapper on my sata drive when i restart it says error loading OS, how to i change bootloader settings during install?
[02:27] <Faileas> lilbit: depends on your install i think
[02:27] <albacker> Corey, i'd recommend getting vi as your code editor, it's good, you have a GUI version of it called gvim, you can get it bu apt-get install gnome-vim or gtk-vim, you have others and emacs is one of them, as for the compiler apt-get install g++, but i think you already have it on your PC !
[02:27] <Corey> I need a compiler im a complete noob to C++ it needs linking... i think does that sound familiar ?
[02:27] <ic56> aalya: which option do you prefer? 1, 2, or 3?
[02:27] <dv_> Frogzoo, so the ext2fs is pretty mature?
[02:27] <chennaituxian> lilbit: check whether u have glibc ?
[02:27] <iiiears> Sevea s wrote a nice script to automate finding and automatically mountin all available partitions. (Even for MAcs) winmac_fstab.sh
[02:27] <wes> it wont let me do it
[02:28] <mlowe> wes, "sudo apt-get install mstcorefonts"
[02:28] <aalya> ic56, if the 2e work, i take it :-)
[02:28] <Faileas> Corey: try codeblocks
[02:28] <Frogzoo> !winext2
[02:28] <ubotu> winext2 is, like, totally, http://www.fs-driver.org/ or http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[02:28] <Faileas> IIRC its called that
[02:28] <chennaituxian> and apt-get g++ should solve that problem, hopefully
[02:28] <wes> still nothing
[02:28] <iiiears> A little poking around in that script will show you disk commands and bash scripting.
[02:29] <ic56> aalya: 2. will work but we'll have to spend extra time to fix what you have done so far.  Option 3 automates that step.  Your choice.  I'm willing either way.
[02:29] <lilbit> chennaituxian, will do
[02:29] <Corey> you sure its g++ and not C++ ?
[02:29] <albacker> Frogzoo, how can you access ext3 from windows ? what app. does this ? i have an app but i have to copy files into windows partition before reading them, so all it does is "copy fils into linux partition into windows". thats all.
[02:29] <mlowe> wes, go to wiki, enable repositories then ......
[02:29] <dv_> albacker, there is ext2fsd as mentioned before
[02:29] <wes> where's wiki?
[02:29] <dv_> also, I know a similar project called ext2fs
[02:29] <Frogzoo> !tell albacker about winext2
[02:29] <chennaituxian> corey, try gcc
[02:29] <dv_> (afaik has nothing in common with winext2)
[02:29] <mlowe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[02:29] <Corey> ok is there a c++ channel ?
[02:29] <wes> lol im not that great with linux
[02:30] <agt> Corey: g++ is a C++ compiler/linker
[02:30] <albacker> Corey, c++ is the programming language, and g++ is the compiler, which transforms the source code into excecutable file !
[02:30] <chennaituxian> corey, google for g++
[02:30] <mlowe> wes search box is top right
[02:30] <Corey> ah I see, ive installed g++ whre is it thoe ?
[02:30] <Hobbsee> Corey: yes there is
[02:30] <albacker> dv_, i use ext2fs but it doesnt really _READ_ the files, its used for copying them into windows than reading them.
[02:30] <aalya> ic56, for you, what are the easier
[02:30] <wes> can you do private chat with me?
[02:30] <ic56> aalya: I prefer #3.
[02:30] <chennaituxian> corey, man g++
[02:30] <lilbit> chennaituxian, when i check my repositories, only glibc-documentation comes up
[02:30] <dv_> oh damn
[02:30] <Corey> I got g++ now
[02:30] <agt> Corey: to compile test.cpp (C++ code), g++ -o test test.cpp
[02:30] <mlowe> wes rather not
[02:30] <albacker> but i might have an old version..
[02:31] <dv_> I forgot that other people want to be able to read from it
[02:31] <lilbit> chennaituxian, so no, its not installed and not available with the repositories I have
[02:31] <Corey> ok im a complete noob never written a thing in c++ ever
[02:31] <chennaituxian> lilbit, do a apt-get install glibc
[02:31] <dv_> and I cant count on them having ext2fs or similar stuff installed
[02:31] <slackern> im using http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm to access my ext3 from windows
[02:31] <dv_> so fat32 :/
[02:31] <albacker> Frogzoo, thanks.
[02:31] <D4rksh4de> can anyone help me install ubuntu, i have problems with creating partitions
[02:31] <chennaituxian> corey, we were once upon
[02:31] <Corey> im very new anybody want to private chat and help me setup its to hard to read from here
[02:31] <dv_> hows the NTFS state?
[02:31] <wes> i dont get this.. i dont have "wiki" when i search for it
[02:31] <Faileas> read only, write is chancy IIEC
[02:31] <Corey> or kopete ?
[02:31] <Faileas> *IIRC
[02:31] <albacker> chennaituxian, gcc is for C code not C++
[02:31] <chennaituxian> corey, its nothing harder than learning to use IRC :p
[02:32] <Corey> I've learnt php to an acceptable level.
[02:32] <wes> ok nvm, i found it
[02:32] <_grout> how do i change bootloader setting during install?
[02:32] <zebarbu> Hi, can you point me to a source for recent (post dapper) packages?
[02:32] <wes> now what do i do?
[02:32] <Frogzoo> !captive
[02:32] <chennaituxian> albacker, know it.... C is mother of C==
[02:32] <ubotu> somebody said captive was a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[02:32] <lilbit> chennaituxian, can't find that package
[02:32] <Corey> so it looks vaugly similar
[02:32] <chennaituxian> C++8
[02:32] <mlowe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repositories%29
[02:32] <Frogzoo> !tell zebarbu about easysource
[02:33] <wes> mlowe?
[02:33] <D4rksh4de> I have problems with creating partitions, can anyone help me?
[02:33] <orbin> anyone notice gnome-terminal lags on startup? it wasn't like this in breezy
[02:33] <mlowe> wes, did you try the link i just pasted to channel ?
[02:34] <wes> not yet, i am
[02:34] <orbin> _grout: what do you mean?
[02:34] <zebarbu> Frogzoo, what is the name of the next release?
[02:34] <_grout> how do i change bootloader setting during install in dapper?
[02:34] <albacker> mlowe, he has partitioning problems not repos problems !
[02:34] <aalya> ic56, i suceed manualy, ty
[02:35] <ic56> aalya: ok. congratulations.
[02:35] <mlowe> wes, albacker, i thought he wanted mstcorefonts ?
[02:35] <Frogzoo> !edgy
[02:35] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html.  initial release timeline - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000144.html
[02:35] <wes> ok so by that i can enable repositories?
[02:35] <ben> hello all. where has the configuration editor gone in dapper? i want to enable desktop icons for computer, trash, etc
[02:35] <D4rksh4de> it just dont let me create partition :(
[02:35] <mlowe> wes, albacker, yes, enable universe and multiverse
[02:35] <wes> noo, i dont have part. problems, i can part. i have stupid font problems lol
[02:35] <dv_> hmm then again, since this HD is supposed to be for temporary data only,
[02:35] <Faileas> !changing password
[02:35] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Faileas
[02:35] <dv_> I could simply reformat when necessray
[02:35] <Frogzoo> ben: apps -> accessories -> Alacarte
[02:35] <dv_> necessary
[02:36] <lilbit> is anyone here running vmware workstation 5.5 on dapper?
[02:36] <shrump_jimbo> D4rksh4de are you using the installer ?
[02:36] <ben> Frogzoo, ah!
[02:36] <ben> Frogzoo, thanks
[02:36] <dv_> are there some negative impacts for the HD if I format it more often than usual?
[02:36] <D4rksh4de> shrump_jimbo: yes
[02:36] <wes> ok now what do i do?
[02:36] <Faileas> lilbit: i am running it on suse, i assume your stuck at config.pl?
[02:36] <ben> lilbit, no but i am going to - what are you planning on doing?
[02:36] <D4rksh4de> shrump_jimbo: it wont let me create swap partition
[02:36] <lilbit> Faileas, no, wont install
[02:36] <mlowe> wes, "sudo apt-get update"
[02:37] <iiiears>    lilbit - I have tried it. The Browser appliance on the VMWare site is ubuntu breezy badger. - works pretty well. -
[02:37] <wes> in terminal??
[02:37] <lilbit> ben, I ask, because I am having trouble installing
[02:37] <mlowe> yes
[02:37] <Faileas> lilbit: install or config?
[02:37] <Faileas> there's a difference
[02:37] <lilbit> Faileas, install
[02:37] <Faileas> what error message?
[02:37] <wes> i opened the repository thing and it says "software sources" then its got add remove edit stuff and CD names lol
[02:37] <ben> lilbit, oh, ok. i was going to use it to run some vms of windows
[02:37] <inrelief> does WEP encryption screw w/bittorrent?
[02:38] <mlowe> wes just check all repositories
[02:38] <lilbit> this is what I am stuck on now    "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:38] <lilbit> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[02:38] <lilbit> "
[02:38] <chennaituxian> lilbit: i might have been wrong with the name
[02:38] <Faileas> thats in config
[02:38] <wes> is that the stuff under where it says "software sources"?
[02:38] <Faileas> usually that works fine as long as you have gnu make installed
[02:38] <mlowe> wes you dont need source
[02:38] <Faileas> oh, and the source for your kernel
[02:38] <wes> well you said check them lol
[02:38] <wes> what do i check??
[02:39] <D4rksh4de> is it ok to install without swap partition?
[02:39] <Faileas> er
[02:40] <lilbit> chennaituxian, ok
[02:40] <Faileas> if you have loads and loads of ram, maybe
[02:40] <mrDaniel> a installation without spaw is possible
[02:40] <D4rksh4de> i have 512
[02:40] <D4rksh4de> mb
[02:40] <Faileas> swap partiton == windows pagefile
[02:40] <orbin> wes: sources as in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:40] <mlowe> wes, the 4th image on page has (Binary) , all the ones the have "Binary"
[02:40] <albacker> D4rksh4de, swap partition is needed if you dont have enought RAM.
[02:40] <Faileas> D4rksh4de: swap would not be a bad idea
[02:40] <D4rksh4de> well, i cant create it
[02:40] <Kaja> You can create a swapfile on for example ext3.
[02:40] <iiiears> D4rksh4de: You can but un less you like tweaking swappiness it is to be avoided.
[02:40] <D4rksh4de> installer wont let it
[02:40] <Faileas> o0
[02:41] <D4rksh4de> i can create ext3 but no swap
[02:41] <wes> i did that sudo apt-get update thing
[02:41] <jdmpike> by the way... XGL is really, really, really, really, really cool
[02:41] <D4rksh4de> ill try ext3 then...
[02:41] <mlowe> wes, did you enable all repositories 1st ?
[02:41] <albacker> why can't you create it ?
[02:41] <donfilipo> hi my radeon 9000 pro runs on AGP 1x ...game armegetron shows that....so after a while any 3d apllication freezes the whole system alomst completly....any help?
[02:41] <orbin> jdmpike: really?
[02:42] <wes> how?? i dont get how you enable the repository list??
[02:42] <D4rksh4de> i wonder if there is any limitation of partitions?
[02:42] <jdmpike> orbin, yes - really, really, really!
[02:42] <albacker> D4rksh4de, sure you can.
[02:42] <iiiears> jdmpike - Yeppers. - Ya gotta love true transparency and rotating desktops.
[02:42] <mlowe> wes, you are running gnome ?
[02:42] <wes> hep
[02:42] <wes> yep*
[02:43] <D4rksh4de> i have currently 3 partitions and maybe it is maximum?
[02:43] <wes> ubuntu linux 5.10
[02:43] <Kaja> 4 primary partitions is the limit
[02:43] <mlowe> wes, run synaptic package manger like it shows in 1st image
[02:43] <jdmpike> uhh ohh.... I am having some performance issues play DVDs in XGL... what do I do to fix that?
[02:43] <D4rksh4de> umm
[02:43] <albacker> jdmpike, XGL is the thing that adds cool effects to gnome ? iight ?
[02:43] <jdmpike> albacker, iight
[02:44] <wes> ok.. then i go to settings and repository
[02:44] <mlowe> correct
[02:44] <wes> then what
[02:44] <mlowe> wes, keep following the page, let me know when you get stuck
[02:44] <albacker> D4rksh4de, no its not maximum, i used to have 3FAT32 and 2ext2, and one swap, so guess !!
[02:44] <albacker> i used to partition my partitions, partitioning is fuckd up.
[02:45] <wes> do i check them all??
[02:45] <albacker> i hate how linux is transforming itself, into Good and COol gui. I got into linux for the Terminal/console and commands, i dont like menus. Fuck i've been configuring everything by hand, i dont want something to do that work. bah ! linux is kinda going the windows way.
[02:45] <Frogzoo> D4rksh4de: you can have max 4 PRIMARY partitions, but you can make the last primary an extended partition, which can hold another 4, so max is 7
[02:46] <orbin> albacker: so do a srever install
[02:46] <orbin> s/srever/server
[02:46] <Faileas> albacker: server install
[02:46] <Faileas> linux= choice ;p
[02:46] <orbin> exactly
[02:46] <D4rksh4de> o.O  it wont let me create any new partitions. i have 3 already
[02:46] <wes> crap i gotta go
[02:46] <wes> school..
[02:47] <wes> ill be back on about four or so mlowe if you want to help me more..
[02:47] <wes> if not, see ya
[02:47] <mlowe> wes, yw
[02:47] <Gerbils> What to do when Awstats doesn't recognise browser and robots. I use apache2 with combined logs, awstats config has been set to combined.
[02:47] <albacker> i didnt sat i wanted only terminal, i can install one of those floppy distros. but i dont like everything to be gui. there are alinux users who never open xterm :( !
[02:47] <Faileas> albacker: its a matter of choice
[02:47] <D4rksh4de> Frogzoo: i have 1st partition made as extended too
[02:47] <Faileas> if you want to use CLI you can, if you want to use GUI you can too
[02:48] <D4rksh4de> Frogzoo: and there are 2 partitions
[02:48] <Faileas> i don't see why everything *shouldn't* be gui
[02:48] <D4rksh4de> Frogzoo: and it wont let me create 3rd one
[02:49] <albacker> guys im compiling something, and it says i dont have GTK, how come ? im running gnome, and so i installed libgtk2.0-dev and it still says same, what should i get ?
[02:49] <d34db14ck> how can i dail again if my connection drops. i get the error on -sudo pon :/usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem'
[02:49] <albacker> no sorry, everything solved :)
[02:49] <albacker> i had to reconfigure after downloading libgtk-dev !
[02:49] <inrelief> does azureus act odd for anybody else?  odd meaning the health icon isn't displayed, disk read errors, and the inability to close the error dialogs?
[02:50] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  me to
[02:50] <shrump_jimbo> D4rksh4de you might be able to do it with cfdisk or qtparted from a knoppix disk then try reinstalling
[02:50] <Frogzoo> D4rksh4de: that's because you've used up your extended partitions - you need to have the 4th primary as extended (otherwise you lose 3 partitions)
[02:50] <inrelief> d34db14ck, glad it's not just me -- guess now we need to find a solution ;)
[02:50] <Faileas> hmm
[02:50] <Faileas> how do i change my password in CLI?
[02:50] <Fjodor> Faileas: passwd
[02:50] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  yeah :)
[02:51] <Frogzoo> D4rksh4de: but you should be able to create at least 4 extended partitions, so maybe you've allocated all your space
[02:51] <Faileas> Fjodor: thanls
[02:51] <visik_> ok
[02:51] <Faileas> *thanks even
[02:51] <Fjodor> Faileas: Np
[02:51] <Faileas> i had set my password as password ;p
[02:51] <eCokeNCod> ok, guys ... just now when i shut down my pc port 1350 was open
[02:51] <inrelief> so to the rest of the channel, d34db14ck and I have some funky azureus problems -- including but not limited to the inability to shut the error dialogs, anybody have a solution?
[02:51] <eCokeNCod> rebooted, because it was running like crap, and now port 4132 is open
[02:52] <ALd_s> why does x still run at runlevel 3
[02:52] <spikeb> heh inrelief i quit using azureus because of that
[02:52] <eCokeNCod> how do i find out which process is associated with these open ports /
[02:52] <eCokeNCod> ?
[02:52] <orbin> inrelief: /j #azureus
[02:52] <d34db14ck> spikeb:  so what do u use now?
[02:52] <inrelief> spikeb, what do you reccomend?
[02:52] <TheSheep> eCokeNCod: netstat -p
[02:52] <inrelief> d34db14ck, haha
[02:52] <spikeb> d34db14ck, i haven't found anything that works better than the gnome bittorrent client yet, unfortunately
[02:52] <d34db14ck> inrelief: ;P
[02:53] <d34db14ck> spikeb:  that doesn't work too well for me either. i get very poor ratio
[02:53] <inrelief> spikeb, that is a shame.  Faileas-however i don't have a windows system ;(
[02:53] <spikeb> d34db14ck, yeah but it runs
[02:53] <spikeb> d34db14ck, heh
[02:53] <huhn> hey
[02:53] <albacker> d34db14ck change the /dev/modem with the port of your modem.
[02:53] <eCokeNCod> ok this looks weird, somebody tell me where the pastebin is
[02:53] <Faileas> inrelief: yeah, but its a damn fine client, REALLY small
[02:53] <kermitX_> gnome-bittorrent works pretty well.. you just dont get the fancy stats & stuff.
[02:54] <inrelief> azureus works fine for me on my gentoo box........
[02:54] <huhn> I got windows up and running now I wanna install ubuntu as a second os.
[02:54] <huhn> is there anything I should mind?
[02:54] <wizzlefish> make sure you have enough space :)
[02:54] <inrelief> Faileas, agreed.  utorrent is prolly the best out there, shame it hasn't been ported
[02:54] <spikeb> inrelief, what JRE are you running azureus against?
[02:54] <wizzlefish> (huhn)
[02:54] <huhn> I asked the same thing yesterday, ubotu sent me a link but I lost it.
[02:54] <TheSheep> huhn: you can backup your MBR if you're paranoid :)
[02:54] <rem_> itll probably work under crossover office ... :P
[02:54] <eCokeNCod> hey guys,where's the ubuntu pastebin ?
[02:54] <albacker> d34db14ck, do this : sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf and see your port. it should be smth like /dev/ttyS0 or smth else.
[02:54] <d34db14ck> albacker:  how
[02:54] <d34db14ck> k
[02:54] <eCokeNCod> !tell eCokeNCod about pastebin
[02:54] <huhn> I just put in the cd and start installing, right? nothing more to mind
[02:55] <wastrel> <3 wvdial
[02:55] <D4rksh4de> Frogzoo: ok, let me explain: i have 120gb hdd, 1st partition is 80gb then next is extended and it contains 30gb and now i try to make 2 more on the extended, i was able to create 9gb partition but i cant create more (after creating it wont show it on the list, the list where you choose to format (after that is install))
[02:55] <TheSheep> !tell me about pastebin
[02:55] <albacker> d34db14ck, stage one, open terminal.
[02:55] <d34db14ck> lol ok
[02:55] <inrelief> spikeb, 1.4.2
[02:55] <d34db14ck> albacker: :D not that noob
[02:55] <shrump_jimbo> huhn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning?highlight=%28partitioning%29
[02:55] <D4rksh4de> Frogzoo: what should i do?
[02:55] <Corey> guys i need a C++ comiler/editor for linux GUI
[02:55] <albacker> d34db14ck, stage two, type into the terminal  sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf
[02:55] <huhn> i think that was the one :)
[02:55] <Corey> GUI.. I NEED IT GUI lol
[02:55] <d34db14ck> albacker: no modems detected
[02:55] <Faileas> Corey: code blocks
[02:56] <orbin> Corey: anjuta
[02:56] <bullrage> Hi all. I have easytag open but forgot to gksudo it before running it, and now I can't save the tags on some files. Is there a way I can do that without restarting the application?
[02:56] <Corey> thanks
[02:56] <inrelief> spikeb, apperently 'gij', which i'm not familiar with....
[02:56] <d34db14ck> albacker:btw i have pppoe conection
[02:56] <spikeb> Corey, look through the add/remove app, that is what it is for
[02:56] <CokeNCode> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15244
[02:56] <aalya> how to know lan/ip ty
[02:56] <spikeb> inrelief, try running it against sun's java
[02:56] <CokeNCode> can anyone tell me what hte HECK is going on htere
[02:56] <kermitX_> bullrage, chown the files to your username.
[02:56] <albacker> d34db14ck, you probably have an internal modem.
[02:56] <inrelief> spikeb, i was just gonna do that ;)
[02:56] <CokeNCode> am i being hacked or what ?
[02:56] <huhn> no it wasn't. however I've already made a 11 gb partition for ubuntu, this should be sufficient, right?
[02:56] <d34db14ck> albacker: ethernet adapter
[02:56] <bullrage> kermitX_, I'm new. That just went straight over my head.
[02:56] <albacker> i thought you had dial up ! :S
[02:56] <d34db14ck> no
[02:56] <d34db14ck> adsl
[02:56] <kermitX_> bullrage, are your mp3's all in the same directory or subdirectories?
[02:57] <wizzlefish> I have the Breezy Badger install CD, and I don't really want to make another one for Dapper Drake - can I upgrade within Ubuntu?
[02:57] <spikeb> yes wizzlefish
[02:57] <albacker> d34db14ck, bah, dunno.
[02:57] <MaLk> wizzlefish: yes, just rename breezy to dapper in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <albacker> d34db14ck, but what do you want to do, you're already connected ? right ? what's the problem ?!
[02:57] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: looks ok
[02:57] <Drago84> nulla
[02:57] <CokeNCode> TheSheep ok, thanks ... why all those connections tho
[02:58] <d34db14ck> albacker:  lol oky. the problem is my conection has been failing alot recently. my isp is making upgrades so i don't want to restart every time
[02:58] <MaLk> wizzlefish: then do sudo apt-get update and sudo atp-get dist-upgrade
[02:58] <shrump_jimbo> CokeNCode whoever john is their logged in ssh
[02:58] <wizzlefish> thanks, MaLk
[02:58] <bullrage> subdirectories kermitX_
[02:58] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: hpiod is the Hewlett Packard Imaging and Printing system, apparently it uses a network socket for communication -- it only listens on localhost though
[02:58] <kermitX_> bullrage, where? your home dir? or somewhere else? say /media/windows/music/ or something?
[02:58] <notos> I have a SpeedStream 5200 Router how can i make so others can see my apache server?
[02:58] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: so you can only connect from your own computer
[02:58] <albacker> d34db14ck, i dont think i can help :( i use dial up myself, so i know a shit on other things
[02:59] <Faileas> notos: port redirection, you should be able to do it through the web interface of your router
[02:59] <Frogzoo> notos: you need to forward port 80 from the router
[02:59] <bullrage> kermitX_, /media/downloads/ then in subdirectories in there. Once I've tagged them I mvoe them to /media/music
[02:59] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: I assume the two ipv6 connections are yours?
[02:59] <kermitX_> bullrage, dapper 6.06 or earlier ubuntu?
[03:00] <d34db14ck> albacker:  ok dude thx for trying tho ;)
[03:00] <bullrage> kermitX_, Dapper
[03:00] <d34db14ck> any one on adsl? how can i dail if link drops?
[03:00] <barros> can I use the rt2570 driver shiped with drapper in WPA2+AES mode?
[03:00] <kermitX_> bullrage, is /media/downloads/ a windows partition?
[03:00] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: if they are not yours, then that's the hacker ;)
[03:00] <bullrage> kermitX_, Ext3
[03:00] <albacker> d34db14ck, np
[03:01] <notos> uhm i have done it but ... if i enter my public ip on my router it forwards to my Router Config page :(
[03:01] <inrelief> d34db14ck, just remembered something...azureus does require java5+, so using blackdown, or any other free jre prolly won't cut it
[03:01] <buzzed> where do you set the default browser?  I can launch from the menu bar but not from other applications
[03:01] <buzzed> since upgrading to Dapper
[03:01] <kermitX_> bullrage, and i suppose you have a slew of changes queued up to write?
[03:01] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider enable options persist & maxfail
[03:02] <bullrage> kermitX_, correct
[03:02] <CokeNCode> ok, there we go, down to one open port
[03:02] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  so it will automatically retry?
[03:02] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: yep
[03:03] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  thanx mate
[03:03] <kermitX_> bullrage, have you used a terminal session before?
[03:03] <bullrage> kermitX_, yes
[03:04] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: yw
[03:04] <orbin> buzzed: sys > prefs > preferred apps
[03:04] <kermitX_> bullrage, what do the permissions and ownership of one of those files look like?  ls -l /media/downloads/somedir/*.mp3
[03:04] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  one more thing. i found the persist line so do i add & maxfail to it?
[03:05] <buzzed> thx
[03:05] <CokeNCode> I don't feel secure ... why were all those ports open ... someone help me out with security
[03:05] <buzzed> what are the thoughts on Epiphany?
[03:05] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: are the two ipv6 connections yours?
[03:05] <bullrage> kermitX_, -rw-r--r--
[03:06] <TheSheep> buzzed: fast, comfortable, simple to use
[03:06] <kermitX_> bullrage, and owner/group?
[03:06] <notos> Faileas, I ve' done that but if i put my public ip address i get the config page of my router
[03:06] <kermitX_> bullrage, root i am guessing?
[03:06] <CokeNCode> TheSheep mmm, you mean over ssh ?
[03:06] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: yes
[03:06] <CokeNCode> yeh
[03:06] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: phew! :)
[03:06] <shrump_jimbo> CokeNCode: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO-5.html
[03:06] <CokeNCode> lololol
[03:06] <bullrage> kermitX_, root.
[03:06] <D4rksh4de> lawl, buggy installer :(
[03:06] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  man
[03:06] <D4rksh4de> crashed
[03:06] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  persist & maxfail
[03:07] <inrelief> spikeb, thanks for the kick the the face on the java jre -- hadn't even thought about it, but azureus is running much much much smoother now
[03:07] <inrelief> spikeb, can't believe i forgot to grab sun's
[03:07] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  what did u doo?
[03:07] <spikeb> inrelief, hehe
[03:07] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  installed java?
[03:07] <inrelief> d34db14ck, downloaded sun's jre (1.5), and switched the default jre from the free one (forget what it was called) to sun's
[03:08] <CokeNCode> thanks shrump_jimbo and TheSheep
[03:08] <shrump_jimbo> np
[03:08] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  ok i'll try
[03:08] <inrelief> d34db14ck, the ubuntu wiki page on restricted formats tells you how to switch jre's
[03:08] <evert_> hello
[03:09] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  thanx a bunch mate
[03:09] <Jemt> I have a weird problem. My internal wireless network card is not found on every boot. It might show up if I reboot my machine - but not always. Is this a known bug ?
[03:09] <Jemt> (In Dapper)
[03:10] <inrelief> d34db14ck, anytime -- definitely helps to have more than one head tackling a problem.
[03:10] <inrelief> now i just have to figure out if the torrent i'm downloaded is generally slow, if WEP is screwing with bittorrent, or if azurues is still being clunky
[03:10] <evert_> I'm having a lot of trouble installing nvidia drivers on linux , i (nearly) tried every method , but it always failed. I had the same problem with ubuntu 5.10. But with SUSE i hadn't a problem at all ... Can somebody help me pls ?
[03:10] <D4rksh4de> The Application "time-admin" has quit unexpectedly.     -_-
[03:10] <Frogzoo> inrelief: d34db14ck sun's 1.5 jre is in the stock repos...
[03:10] <kermitX_> bullrage, try sudo chown -R bullrage.users /media/downloads   (where bullrage is your username)
[03:10] <Nookie^> evert_: what is your problem?
[03:11] <D4rksh4de> the installer just dont like me :(
[03:11] <inrelief> Frogzoo, i don't think that was ever an issue......
[03:11] <kermitX_> bullrage, then check the ownership of a file in there again.
[03:11] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  persist & maxfail ? where do i add that?
[03:11] <d34db14ck> in the file
[03:11] <wastrel> it's raining in nyc
[03:11] <evert_> When I install nvidia drivers (the methods i tried) , i can't get in X any more and i have to change in my xorg.Conf nvidia back  again to the nv driver
[03:11] <evert_> with not getting in X , i mean that the screen just stays black :(
[03:11] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider     -  "maxfail 0"
[03:12] <bullrage> kermitX_, it works, thanks.
[03:12] <TheSheep> evert_: is numlock working when the screen is black?
[03:12] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: try adding pre-up sleep 5 to ifconfig
[03:12] <wizzlefish> arg, I forgot it already - where did I have to change "breezy" to "dapper?"
[03:12] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: man pppd if you want more info
[03:12] <evert_> numlock ? what has a black screen to do with numlock ? Never pressed numlock then
[03:12] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Add? How?
[03:12] <inrelief> man...watching deer hunter at 9 in the morning is not really an uplifting way to start the day
[03:12] <TheSheep> evert_: black screen can mean a lot of things
[03:12] <wizzlefish> was it "/ect/apt/sources/"?
[03:13] <TheSheep> evert_: I had a problem with nvidia drivers that hung the whole computer hard
[03:13] <TheSheep> evert_: so even numlock didn't work
[03:13] <jerethaway>  thanjks for the help your a great group
[03:13] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo: k
[03:13] <evert_> I don't know , I just can't do a thing any more ... When i got the driver problem i need to reboot in safe mode
[03:13] <evert_> how did you solved the problem TheSheep ?
[03:13] <jerethaway> bye
[03:13] <chewyf5> hello i#ve got a problem with intel_hda (using dapper)
[03:13] <TheSheep> evert_: try adding option "nvagp" "0"
[03:14] <d34db14ck> !pppd
[03:14] <ubotu> d34db14ck: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:14] <TheSheep> evert_: it turned out to be a problem of my agp
[03:14] <evert_> in my xorg.conf under the line 'driver' 'nvidia' i just add "nvagp" "0" ?
[03:14] <TheSheep> evert_: first try with agp disabled
[03:14] <evert_> i also got agp ..
[03:14] <evert_> ok i'm giving the agp 0 thing a trie
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: Find the part in /etc/network/interfaces for your card then add 'pre-up sleep 5' directly underneath it (will be something similar to 'iface ath0 inet dhcp' (won't work if you use network manager)
[03:14] <TheSheep> evert_: write:  Option "NvAGP" "0"
[03:15] <chewyf5> is there anyone how can help me
[03:15] <evert_> Ok , i'm going to try that , i'm back in a few minutes ,hopefully with a working nvidia driver :)
[03:15] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Ah, ok. What does it do ?
[03:15] <lilbit> looks like I got VMWARE running, I found this "http://www.stoltenow.com/archives/2005/11/getting_vmware.html"
[03:15] <evert_> i need to put that option under the driver nvidia line ?
[03:15] <Frogzoo> chewyf5: more info needed..
[03:15] <TheSheep> chewyf5: if only we knew what your problem is...
[03:16] <r3set> hi, i've got a problem with my runlevels, everytime xserver (xorg) is running i'm not abled to access my runlevels (black screen)
[03:16] <h3sp4wn> jemt: Just waits for 5 seconds to allow the driver to settle before launching dhcp
[03:16] <Frogzoo> !tell r3set about fixres
[03:16] <chewyf5> TheSheep: I can't hear any sound, nothing is mutet
[03:16] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: But.. the network card is not detected at all - it dosn't show up in Administration -> Networking
[03:16] <chewyf5> alsamixer is working fine
[03:16] <d34db14ck> how can i change the default application for an extension
[03:17] <bootwoes> helpp
[03:17] <DBO> !helpme
[03:17] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[03:17] <r3set> Frogzoo, i don't think that's my problem ;)
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: You said sometimes
[03:17] <bootwoes> i've did chmod 777 -R /
[03:17] <bootwoes> now nothing works
[03:17] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: right click -> properties -> open with
[03:17] <bootwoes> how can i fix this
[03:18] <bootwoes> ?
[03:18] <DBO> bootwoes, and how
[03:18] <SeanTater> bootwoes: you're toast
[03:18] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Yes, sometimes. But how would it help me stalling the DHCP process for 5 seconds?
[03:18] <Frogzoo> r3set: 3 to 1 it is ....
[03:18] <r3set> i'm using a notebook
[03:18] <DBO> bootwoes, ...yeah, you could fix it, but reinstall might be eisier than getting clever
[03:18] <wastrel> bootwoes:  boot from a rescue disk, backup important data, and reinstall
[03:18] <d34db14ck> i want mplayer to handle video files not movie player. how do i change that?
[03:18] <bootwoes> whats the default permissions supposed to be
[03:18] <bootwoes> ive booted via livecd
[03:18] <Frogzoo> r3set: if the server can't find a usable mode, the screen will stay black - you need to fix your xorg.conf
[03:18] <bootwoes> i was thinking i could just put it back
[03:18] <bootwoes> no?
[03:19] <SeanTater> bootwoes: Reinstall = 1 hour, Fix = weeks
[03:19] <TheSheep> bootwoes: every file has different default permissions
[03:19] <DBO> bootwoes, no, not really...
[03:19] <bootwoes> sonnafabitch
[03:19] <wastrel> bootwoes:  there's hundreds of files you'd need to fix
[03:19] <bootwoes> doh
[03:19] <inrelief> d34db14ck, did you get java 1.5 installed?  azureus is flyi'n for me now
[03:19] <DBO> bootwoes, dont know why you did that, but stop it
[03:19] <r3set> okay, but like i said, xserver hasn't got problem, i've got a problem when switch from xserver to shell
[03:19] <r3set> *a problem
[03:19] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  i'm dl it now :) thanx for the unpade mate
[03:20] <r3set> *switching
[03:20] <bootwoes> yeah...
[03:20] <SeanTater> bootwoes: so why did you want every file 777 anyway?
[03:20] <bootwoes> i was going to back it up
[03:20] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  did u portforward it?
[03:20] <bootwoes> i forgot to just remount it instead
[03:20] <bootwoes> thats one lesson i wont be forgetting
[03:21] <DBO> bootwoes, yes indeed
[03:21] <wastrel> welcome to the club!  we all have at least one of those :] 
[03:21] <lzap> how to install Vim7?
[03:21] <lzap> hi all :-)
[03:21] <bootwoes> thanks fellas
[03:21] <SeanTater> bootwoes: I've done my fair share of computer related stupid stuff too
[03:21] <DBO> configure, make, and checkinstall lzap
[03:21] <inrelief> d34db14ck, yeah, portforwarding is all good
[03:22] <blakcheez> how do I set MIME types?
[03:22] <lzap> I tried to remove the "vim" package, but I stopped since apt warned me about removing ubuntu-base :-( a bit dangerous...
[03:22] <DBO> bootwoes, I once did a dd in reverse... bad day for my mbr
[03:22] <DBO> lzap, just install it to opt
[03:22] <lzap> DBO: I have heard that checkinstall is not safe...
[03:22] <wastrel> i decided to get rid of my mount points (rm -r /mnt/)  before unmounting our windows file and print server
[03:22] <bootwoes> no idea what a dd is but it sounds bad
[03:22] <bootwoes> heh
[03:22] <wastrel> after about 5 minutes i'm like "why is this taking so long"
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: Sometimes if the driver isn't initialised properly when dhclient is run then it fails
[03:22] <SeanTater> lzap: try asking apt - ubuntu-base may just be a metapackage
[03:22] <d34db14ck> where do i manage file types and their associate applications?
[03:22] <SeanTater> lzap: so removeing it may not be that big of a deal
[03:22] <DBO> lzap, i dont see how it could be any less safe than doing make install...  its just in how you use it
[03:23] <DBO> rm -rf is not safe either....
[03:23] <cyne> i have installed java runtime 5 (sun) from the add programs dialog.... but i still don't have java in firefox.. what's up with that?
[03:23] <lzap> I have found the packages for Dapper here, but I am not sure if it is safe to upgrade the original vim packages (http://www.freshnet.org/wordpress/blog/2006/05/24/vim-7-for-ubuntu-dapper-e-breezy/)
[03:23] <kimo> Guys, anyone knows of unofficial kernels for sid (with swsusp2 support ...?) I don't wanna compile my own
[03:23] <feg> im experiencing some problems running fglrx on a fresh dapper install. is it correct to blacklist radeon kernel module in order to have fglrx working correctly?
[03:23] <cyne> hi enyc :)
[03:23] <nox-Hand> Hey
[03:23] <enyc> ;-)
[03:23] <enyc> thats funny
[03:23] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: But again - what does dhclient has to do with the network card? It's just a service that assignes an IP - to my knowledge. I might be wrong. And what if I were using static settings?
[03:23] <enyc> I have mailboxes @  cyne.enyc.org.uk
[03:24] <DBO> feg, you dont have to no
[03:24] <cyne> do i have to install blackdown java as well as sun jave 5?
[03:24] <cyne> java
[03:24] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: I'm just trying to understand the core of the problem here :)
[03:24] <enyc> cyne: no dont think so
[03:24] <Frogzoo> cyne: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:24] <Aeudian> Alrighty i got a problem, after logon to ubuntu (gui) it locks up upon loading gnome, it also locks up if i select failsafe terminal.  The only access i can get to this system is when i boot into fail recovery.  As of right now the machine sits on the Gnome Loading spalsh screen after account login
[03:24] <SeanTater> DBO: hey, while you're at it, I can;t get fglrx to work on my computer either -- it still uses MESA.
[03:24] <feg> DBO, so i have only to add fglrx in /etc/modules without blacklisting anything?
[03:24] <cyne> thanks Frogzoo
[03:25] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 working on Breezy?
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: It ask
[03:25] <Frogzoo> cyne: yw
[03:25] <TheSheep> Aeudian: you can always press alt+ctrl+f1 to get into the text mode?
[03:25] <enyc> cyne: in ubutnu-dapper you sholud nood to install the relevant nevv java from multiverse and  do the ''sudo update-alternatives --config java'' or semething like that
[03:25] <DBO> feg, you dont have to add that to /etc/modules either... did you read the walkthrough?
[03:25] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: ?
[03:25] <DBO> SeanTater, how did you install?
[03:25] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: "It ask" ?
[03:25] <Aeudian> TheSheep: no i cant the prompt wont come up there either
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: asks the network for an ip but if the network card is not initialised then then it will fail
[03:25] <TheSheep> weird
[03:25] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Oh, IC
[03:25] <Aeudian> TheSheep: its like the resources of system could be getting slammed
[03:25] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Thank you :)
[03:25] <SeanTater> DBO: through apt, xorg-fglrx, stuff and the restricted modules
[03:25] <feg> DBO, this one : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide  but it doesn't work for me
[03:26] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: I'll try that :)
[03:26] <DBO> SeanTater, did you get any errors on install?
[03:26] <TheSheep> Aeudian: have you checked the logs?
[03:26] <DBO> !ati
[03:26] <Aeudian> TheSheep: no, where are they located
[03:26] <ubotu> well, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[03:26] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: All I know is that that is how I got mine to work 100% of the time
[03:26] <DBO> look at that one feg
[03:26] <TheSheep> Aeudian: in /var/log/
[03:26] <lzap> is it safe to "override" the original package version by unofficial build?
[03:26] <Aeudian> TheSheep: ill look thanks
[03:27] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Okay. Worth a try :)
[03:27] <SeanTater> DBO: nope -- all fine If I remember correctly, But I don;t get the "make sure it worked" stuff
[03:27] <DBO> SeanTater, does glxgears work?
[03:27] <evert_> hello i'm back
[03:27] <evert_> TheSheep are you still here ?
[03:27] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: Does it come up fine if you just run sudo ifup ath0 (or whatever card it is)
[03:27] <TheSheep> evert_: yes
[03:27] <DBO> SeanTater, does xorg.conf say fglrx for driver?... if the answer to both these questions is yes, then it should be working
[03:27] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Will 'pre-up sleep 5' extend booting time with 5 seconds, or is it a separat thread ?
[03:27] <SeanTater> DBO: Yes, but they don;t give any info concerning FPS though
[03:27] <TheSheep> evert_: did it work?
[03:28] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Let me try - sec
[03:28] <SeanTater> DBO: I'll check xorg.conf
[03:28] <DBO> SeanTater, yeah, you need to do glxgears --printfps for that
[03:28] <evert_> If you live in belgium i'm going to bring you a beer , you solved my drivers problem !!! Really thanks !! i was freaking with this problem for several weeks , i nearly tried everything but this worked ! thx !
[03:28] <TheSheep> evert_: wait, that's the beginning only
[03:28] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Nope - "Failed to bring up eth1"
[03:28] <TheSheep> evert_: because you really want your agp working :)
[03:28] <evert_> How can i check , so i'm sure , that nvidia drivers are really runnign ?
[03:28] <evert_> ah
[03:28] <evert_> oops :P
[03:29] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: "Bind socket to interface: No such device"
[03:29] <nox-Hand> Hey.
[03:29] <TheSheep> evert_: but at least you know what's the problem :)
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: You are probably using network manager I don't know anything about that
[03:29] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Nope, I'm not
[03:29] <evert_> Ok , can you help me with solving it further ?
[03:29] <TheSheep> evert_: try either nvagp "1" or "2"
[03:29] <SeanTater> DBO: glxgears = 800 FPS
[03:29] <evert_> ok i'll try it
[03:29] <boogaloo> is there a way to display the desktop in acii view ?
[03:29] <TheSheep> evert_: one of them should hang, the other one should run
[03:29] <boogaloo> ascii
[03:29] <evert_> ok i'm going to try them , brb
[03:29] <DBO> SeanTater, well thats not fantastic but better than what you would get with software rendering
[03:29] <nox-Hand> I have been wondering, how would I get 256 colour cli? (( like when running BB, it says it supports 256 colour ASCII, and I've seen screenshots, yet never found out how to run it in colour =| ))
[03:30] <C-O-L-T> I need help. Can not use internet with Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. I have my connection configured with DHCP and sometimes works and sometimes not. Under windows everything works smoothly. I don't have any firewall
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: Configuring wpa_supplicant from /etc/network/interfaces ? Using native drivers ?
[03:30] <DBO> nox-Hand, 256 colour = 8 bit
[03:30] <Drakonik> In Dapper, I've configured my network properly. I can see the other computers, and I can access email. The problem is, I can access ONE website: Google. Did I set my internet up incorrectly, is it a known bug, or did I miss something entirely?
[03:31] <DBO> nox-Hand, nevermind, I misread what you wanted...
[03:31] <Drakonik> I'm on XP right now, so I can't do anything in Ubuntu without rebooting.
[03:31] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: Does eth1 appear in /sbin/ifconfig -a (if it doesn't it sounds like a hardware or kernel problem)
[03:31] <nox-Hand> DBO: Right, aaaand, how would I get the terminal to play that when running something like bb? I think I have it active right now, as I have got colours in stuff like irssi right now.
[03:31] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: I've been using "Administration -> Networking" to configure the network. I'm using what ever driver Ubuntu found for me. Worked great in Breezy - obviously dosn't in Dapper
[03:31] <SeanTater> DBO: my xorg: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/765135
[03:31] <DBO> Drakonik, are you on a proxy?
[03:31] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Let me check - sec :)
[03:31] <lilbit> I have installed SAMBA and shared a folder on my dapper machine, but from a windows machine I am asked for a user and pass to access the share, but ot wont take my user or pass, is it because my user name is not root, and or is it because I have to edit something in the samba config file?
[03:31] <evert_> Ok number 1 was working ...
[03:31] <Drakonik> DBO: I don't think so.
[03:31] <TheSheep> evert_: great
[03:31] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Nope, it does not show up
[03:31] <evert_> SO now my drivers are working ok ?
[03:32] <TheSheep> evert_: tell me, is this ASUS mainboard or graphics card?
[03:32] <iXce> hi
[03:32] <SeanTater> DBO: it says Driver "fglrx" in there
[03:32] <DBO> SeanTater, it might help if you enabled the fglrx driver =P
[03:32] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: I IS registered in /etc/network/interfaces though
[03:32] <Drakonik> DBO: Unless I miunderstood the definition of proxy.
[03:32] <evert_> How can i give it a quick test they are working ok ? I've got a asus mianbord , with a PNY 6800Gt
[03:32] <SeanTater> DBO: how might I do that?
[03:32] <iXce> I was wondering if it's possible to reinstall every package installed on my dapper without doing a fresh install?
[03:32] <DBO> SeanTater, I do and resubmit the file, and you watch =)
[03:32] <inrelief> iXce, why would you want to do that?
[03:33] <mutante> nox-Hand: the ascii art demo? it has an option -eight Use eight bit ASCII ..not sure
[03:33] <DBO> SeanTater, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/765140
[03:33] <iXce> inrelief looks like I broke my libc/binutils
[03:33] <TheSheep> evert_: maybe try to run some opengl screensaver?
[03:33] <aalya> What the last nvidia drivers plz ?
[03:33] <evert_> There is not a build in simple opengl test in linux ?
[03:33] <nox-Hand> mutante: Sounds interesting :)
[03:33] <SeanTater> DBO: aaahhh -- that might do it
[03:33] <TheSheep> evert_: maybe glxgears
[03:33] <DBO> iXce, sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[03:33] <SeanTater> DBO: I'll do that
[03:33] <DBO> iXce, no idea what that might do though...
[03:33] <iXce> "undefined symbol: __libc_csu_init"...
[03:34] <iXce> DBO i'm not sure that that'll be enough :D
[03:34] <nox-Hand> mutante: trying
[03:34] <evert_> that glxgears thing works , but i don't see a fps ... so maybay it worked also with the nv driver
[03:34] <TheSheep> evert_: I think it has an option to show fps
[03:34] <inrelief> iXce, ahhhhh.  bummer.  uhm, not too familiar with the apt system quite yet (just migrated to ubuntu from gentoo), but i'll google around a bit
[03:34] <DBO> iXce, well, I know shooting shotguns at problems is fun, but rifled bits of tech supports leaves an easier trace to figure out what killed your issue
[03:34] <TheSheep> evert_: but I'm using the nv driver, and believe me, it shows with naked eye ;)
[03:35] <evert_> ok
[03:35] <DBO> hmmm, interesting error iXce...
[03:35] <iXce> DBO yeah
[03:35] <TheSheep> evert_: now you can try xgl and wobbley windows ;)
[03:35] <william__> XGL is fun
[03:35] <evert_> thx for the help TheSheep , I was going crazy of this problem really thx ! Now i'm going to try to install xgl :D
[03:35] <iXce> i've got two ubuntu setups that I installed the same day
[03:35] <iXce> one can't compile some programs, the other one can
[03:36] <DBO> what did you do to the poor thing?
[03:36] <wastrel> iXce:  you have build-essential installed?
[03:36] <SeanTater> DBO: restarting X now, I'll see if it works
[03:36] <h3sp4wn> Is anyone using a realtime-preempt patched kernel with fglrx ?
[03:36] <iXce> yeah wastrel :p
[03:36] <nox-Hand> mutante: I shall have to try from X. quitting irssi, brb
[03:36] <wastrel> iXce:  what compile errors are you getting?  can you pastebin them?
[03:36] <Huhn> hey, I'm just about to install ubuntu. now it wants me to create a swap and a primary partition. I have 15 gb of space free for ubuntu. how should I create the partitions?
[03:36] <iXce> wastrel sure
[03:36] <Huhn> what sizes are appropriate
[03:36] <DBO> Huhn, how much RAM you got?
[03:37] <Huhn> 512mb
[03:37] <DBO> Huhn, give swap a gig and the rest to primary
[03:37] <Huhn> swap is something like a scratchdisk or what?
[03:37] <TheSheep> Huhn: it's virtual ram
[03:37] <Huhn> ok thanks
[03:37] <Huhn> :)
[03:37] <h3sp4wn> Huhn: I think you should have it split roughly evenly between / and /home
[03:37] <TheSheep> Huhn: it's used when your system runs out of real ram
[03:37] <iXce> here it is : http://pastebin.com/765146 (the date of the ld is not correct, but it's the error)
[03:37] <DBO> h3sp4wn, on that small of a drive?? naw...
[03:37] <nightw0lf> hi, i can't find sun-java in the apt-repository, is that correct?
[03:37] <TheSheep> h3sp4wn: any reason to have separate /home ?
[03:38] <h3sp4wn> So you can keep it if something happens to /
[03:38] <william__> hey I've been testing random operating systems and I had Vista Beta 2 on my machine untill I installed Ubuntu because I got confued and messed up then I re-installed Ubuntu again and just wiped the whole partition and set aside 20gb for Ubuntu, can I install windows now or will that boot manager take over?
[03:38] <Huhn> so you say 1 gb swap, 7 gb / and 7 gb home?
[03:38] <wastrel> ouch
[03:38] <DBO> william__, you will need to reinstall grub
[03:38] <nox-Hand> mutante, my bb seems to be broken. I gotta go.
[03:38] <iXce> i downgraded my binutils to stable (after reading some debian mailing lists) and this error disappeared, but i'm getting this one when running the app : symbol lookup error: ./cairo-dock: undefined symbol: __libc_csu_init
[03:38] <DBO> Huhn, I wouldnt, you will be pushing your / to the limit
[03:39] <SeanTater> DBO: Kubuntu won;t load -- I think I'll uncomment, see if the restricted mods are on and try again.
[03:39] <william__> so I'll have to re-install Windows then run the bootcd and install grub again
[03:39] <Huhn> so, what would you do
[03:39] <babo> has anyone seen the poseidon adventure ?
[03:39] <DBO> SeanTater, make sure you comment out the other section
[03:39] <wastrel> well good luck with that :] 
[03:39] <nightw0lf> did anyone read my question?
[03:40] <inrelief> anybody use nm-applet to display their wireless connectivity?
[03:40] <DBO> william__, yeah, thats about right
[03:40] <inrelief> i can't seem to get it to display wireless, only wired
[03:40] <lilbit> why is webmin not ion the repositories?
[03:40] <Huhn> dbo: so I should give 1 gb to swap, and how much to / and to home (14 gb remaining)
[03:40] <wastrel> nightw0lf: sun java packages are in multiverse
[03:40] <DBO> Huhn, I would personally leave it on one single partition since total drive failure is more likely anyhow...
[03:41] <nightw0lf> wastrel: but they are active...
[03:41] <Huhn> why is drive failure likely?
[03:41] <DBO> MORE likely
[03:41] <Huhn> ok
[03:41] <DBO> its not very likely at all
[03:41] <wastrel> nightw0lf:  are you trying to install them?
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> DB0: I think when you first start using an OS you are more likely to messup / than have a hardware failure
[03:41] <Huhn> so just 1gb swap and then the rest to / ?
[03:41] <Drakonik> Does anyone have any idea why I would be unable to access any site but Google?
[03:41] <nightw0lf> wastrel: yes...
[03:42] <SeanTater> DBO: oops -- I did not read what you said until I had finished - I did not comment out the other section, but it booted fine
[03:42] <inrelief> anybody on nm-applet?
[03:42] <wastrel> nightw0lf:  and you have multiverse repositories enabled?
[03:42] <DBO> h3sp4wn, sure, and one of the best ways to messup / is to run out of space on it ;-)
[03:42] <nightw0lf> yes
[03:42] <lilbit> does anyne know what repository I must have to get webmin?
[03:42] <DBO> SeanTater, hmmm... well that answers a burning question
[03:42] <Faileas> hmm
[03:42] <lilbit> can someone help me, or do I need to go to a windows chat room?
[03:42] <SeanTater> DBO: what?
[03:43] <Huhn> dbo: sorry for me asking everything double, but I'm new to ubuntu (you wouldn't have guessed) and I don't wanna fuck things up: 1gb to swap the rest to / ?
[03:43] <DBO> What happens if you give xorg multiple conflicting options (takes the first one)
[03:43] <lilbit> I guess noone can help, I will have to find a Microsoft Certified Professional
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> DB0: My / is 2gb I don't see how anyone would need more than 7gb on it
[03:43] <DBO> Huhn, watch language please, and yes, I would put it all in /
[03:43] <wastrel> nightw0lf:  apt-cache search sun-java  and pick the one you want to install.
[03:43] <DBO> h3sp4wn, mine is well over 25GB
[03:43] <TheSheep> Huhn: yes, its a rule of thumb to have roughly 2xRAM for swap
[03:43] <williswatson> 
[03:44] <williswatson> ubuntu
[03:44] <TheSheep> williswatson: same to you
[03:44] <DBO> Huhn, I mean all in root except for the 1gb in swap
[03:44] <Huhn> ok thanks a lot, and sorry for that f word. honestly I didn't even notice :D
[03:44] <DBO> Huhn, i know, channel rules is all =P
[03:44] <AntoineCezar> exit
[03:44] <Huhn> . / = root right?
[03:44] <gypsymauro> hello
[03:44] <DBO> Huhn, yeah / = root
[03:45] <Huhn> ok then, i think i should do fine
[03:45] <Huhn> thanks
[03:45] <DBO> h3sp4wn, you must run a VERY minimalist system...
[03:45] <Huhn> bye
[03:45] <gypsymauro> I'm trying to install vserver-patch on dapper but it  fails, someone done it succesfully?
[03:45] <Frogzoo> Huhn: give yourself a separate /home if nothing else
[03:45] <h3sp4wn> DB0: I just build everything using fakeroot from my home directory - and use kde
[03:45] <wastrel> women bu hui shuo zhongwen
[03:45] <Huhn> oh the / should be what filesystem?
[03:45] <djcabz> lilbit, did you try google?
[03:45] <Huhn> ext 3?
[03:45] <Frogzoo> Huhn: ext3 is fine
[03:46] <Huhn> :)
[03:46] <lilbit> djcabz, yes, I am doing that now, I was just hoping someone knew
[03:46] <`666> good morning all
[03:46] <iXce> is there any way to backup a list of what is currently installed on my comp and use it after a reinstall for coming back to the current setup?
[03:46] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 sound card working on Breezy?
[03:46] <AntoineCezar> im back
[03:46] <lilbit> djcabz, this is my workstation and I just wish I could get it going quicker
[03:46] <AntoineCezar> so yes i've installed from sources
[03:46] <SeanTater> DBO: the restricted modules are there
[03:47] <djcabz> lilbit, nothing worth doing is easy.
[03:47] <DBO> SeanTater, lemme see the relevant xorg log
[03:47] <feg> DBO, no, fglrx doesn't work even with that guide
[03:47] <SeanTater> DBO: which log would that be
[03:47] <DBO> feg, then something is very snafu
[03:47] <Huhn> Oh damn I got an error message
[03:47] <Huhn> but with no content
[03:47] <Frogzoo> feg: which vid card?
[03:47] <williswatson> nickServ
[03:47] <DBO> SeanTater, it will be the one in /var/log/Xorg.1.log most likely
[03:48] <feg> Frogzoo, mobility FireGL 9000
[03:48] <djcabz> lilbit, you could always enable the multiverse and universe repository, seach for webmin, then after install, disable the repository...
[03:48] <william__> is there a better alternative to mplayer plugin to watch videos through a website?
[03:48] <wastrel> williswatson:  /join #ubuntu-cn
[03:48] <feg> DBO, open source drivers are working correctly but without DRI
[03:48] <SeanTater> DBO: there's a .0. one for XPRG I'll pasetbin it (there's no .1. one)
[03:49] <SeanTater> DBO: XORG even
[03:49] <DBO> SeanTater, is there a .old?
[03:49] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 sound card working on Breezy?
[03:49] <TheSheep> aah, it's chinese, that's why I coudn;t understand it :D
[03:49] <williswatson> sorry
[03:49] <Melsen> After having done a full system upgrade from breezy to dapper.. my network doesn't work anymore.. it's disabled, and when I try to enable it.. it says 'Could not parse the XML output from the network configuration to the backend." - Does anyone have an idea as to how that can be fixed?
[03:49] <nekromaan> hello, if you are using extern sources(for example xgl), how do i have to dist-upgrade
[03:49] <lilbit> djcabz, I have uncommented all of the rpositories in my default sources.list
[03:49] <Frogzoo> feg: you should check - it looks like the 9000 requires the open source driver, NOT ATI's
[03:50] <Jemt> I'm installing VMWare Player on Dapper. It asks me where 'make' is located. Can anyone help me with the location? 'slocate make' gives me a looong list
[03:50] <SeanTater> DBO: yes, one normal, and one .ord -- want both?
[03:50] <skipmeister> is anybody running hddtemp on a SATA drive?
[03:50] <DBO> yeah sure, lets do both
[03:50] <jbroome> Jemt: you'll need the build-essential package for compilers
[03:50] <Jemt> jbroome: Ah, that's why
[03:50] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 sound card working on Breezy?
[03:50] <Jemt> jbroome: Thanks :)
[03:50] <Huhn> hm this is weird. I create those 2 partitions out of the unpartitioned space but in the next step it's back to the old partition setup
[03:50] <jbroome> Jemt: no problem.
[03:50] <Melsen> Noone knows?
[03:50] <william__> Does anyone know a better plugin then MPlayer to watch wmv's and other online video files from Firefox?
[03:50] <lilbit> djcabz, where do find the proper spelling of those repositories?
[03:50] <evert_> i'm trying to install xgl , but i'm stuck with this thing :
[03:50] <evert_> Create /usr/local/bin/compiz-start and paste the following code :
[03:50] <evert_> how can i do that ?
[03:51] <djcabz> lilbit,  yeah, I am noticing that now... not in the standard repos...
[03:51] <feg> Frogzoo, no. 9xxx works with ati's.
[03:51] <Frogzoo> feg: yep - fglrx is only for radeon's >= 9500
[03:51] <Frogzoo> !fglrx
[03:51] <ubotu> well, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[03:51] <SeanTater> DBO: just a sec  -- it's really long
[03:52] <`666> could anybody help me with my new matter? i've to install a pcmcia WiFi card. when i try to compile its kernel module, it asks me "Linux kernel source directory". Where is it ?
[03:52] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 sound card working on Breezy?
[03:52] <spikeb> i thought r300 was supported now by OSS drivers
[03:52] <feg> Frogzoo, but it was working with breezy!
[03:52] <evert_> Does somebody knows a gnome version for yakuake ?
[03:53] <krazykit> spikeb: ati drivers?  they're supported, you just don't get 3d accel.  there's experimental support up to 9600
[03:53] <feg> Frogzoo, you mean the fglrx in dapper does not support my card anymore?
[03:53] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 sound card working on Breezy?
[03:53] <Melsen> Anyone here know anything about network configuration?
[03:53] <Zyclop> evert_ : there is none. guess, why it's called Kuake ;)
[03:54] <wastrel> Melsen:  ask your question and we'll let you know
[03:54] <Frogzoo> feg: no, the wiki's wrong: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.12.10.html says that firegl 9000 is supported...
[03:54] <Melsen> After having done a full system upgrade from breezy to dapper.. my network doesn't work anymore.. it's disabled, and when I try to enable it.. it says 'Could not parse the XML output from the network configuration to the backend." - Does anyone have an idea as to how that can be fixed?
[03:54] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 sound card working on Breezy?
[03:54] <Melsen> know how to fix that wastrel?
[03:54] <Huhn> why wont creating new partitions work?!
[03:54] <SeanTater> DBO: Here's the XORG log (not .old) http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/765179
[03:54] <evert_>  i'm trying to install xgl , but i'm stuck with this thing : Create /usr/local/bin/compiz-start and paste the following code ... how can i do that ?
[03:54] <Huhn> i deliberately  left 15gb free when setting up windows so it would be easy setting up ubuntu
[03:54] <Huhn> but it isn't
[03:54] <djcabz> lilbit, looks like webmin was removed from the repositories view: http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2006/01/msg00124.html
[03:55] <SeanTater> DBO: and .old: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/765183
[03:55] <feg> Frogzoo, btw, the fact is that i'd use the open source drivers shipped with ubuntu. but 3d is not working correctly
[03:55] <Faileas> hmm
[03:55] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 sound card working on Breezy?
[03:55] <Faileas> i have a ubuntu server thats not gonna be used much running on vmware
[03:55] <Faileas> whats the minimum system requirements?
[03:55] <DBO> SeanTater, ok, I see the issue... i suck
[03:56] <krazykit> Faileas: for vmware or for ubuntu?
[03:56] <`666> :/ I've no Linux kernel source dir on my DapperDrake. Is it possible?
[03:56] <SeanTater> DBO: so what can I do/
[03:56] <Faileas> for ubunty
[03:56] <Faileas> *ubuntu
[03:56] <wastrel> Melsen:  you're using the network configuration GUI ?  system->administration->networking   ?
[03:56] <Melsen> yes?
[03:56] <evert_>  i'm trying to install xgl , but i'm stuck with this thing : Create /usr/local/bin/compiz-start and paste the following code ... how can i do that ?
[03:56] <ftwig> evolution does not seem to be filtering spam.  I have upgraded to dapper by doing a fresh install and copying my home directory.  I was using spamassasin
[03:56] <DBO> SeanTater, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/765189
[03:56] <DBO> try that
[03:56] <krazykit> Faileas: because running ubuntu in vmware will take up more resources than normal... but you can get away with a p2 with 128mb of ram, uncomfortably.
[03:57] <Jemt> Can someone tell me which directory that contains the C header files that match my kernel ?
[03:57] <krazykit> Faileas: though if you want to choke it on RAM usage, check out xubuntu
[03:57] <Melsen> wastrel: any command line way that can help sort out the problem?
[03:57] <krazykit> Jemt: /usr/src, but you may need to install them
[03:57] <Jemt> krazykit: Ok, thanks
[03:57] <wastrel> Melsen:  i'd recommend making a backup of your existing /etc/network/interfaces   then removing it entirely, and try starting the network configuration GUI again
[03:57] <wastrel> Melsen:  not sure but that may help...
[03:58] <william__> Does anyone know a better plugin then MPlayer to watch wmv's and other online video files from Firefox?
[03:58] <Melsen> I'll try
[03:58] <Jemt> krazykit: Nope, not there. What do I need to install?
[03:58] <Faileas> er
[03:58] <Faileas> server mode
[03:58] <Huhn> Can anybody help me please, I have serious problems preparing the partitions to install ubuntu.
[03:58] <ftwig> Jemt:do a uname -a then grep for the version on the kernel it gives you
[03:58] <Faileas> NO gui
[03:58] <feg> Frogzoo, DBO so, OS drivers without DRI, fglrx not working = back to breezy :-(
[03:58] <ftwig> Huhn:what is the nature of the problem?
[03:58] <Faileas> krazykit: its a PIV 2.2 GHZ on a windows host, client is ubuntu server version with no GUI installed, and a LAMP stack
[03:59] <SeanTater> DBO: okay -- restarting
[03:59] <krazykit> Faileas: that's plenty then.
[03:59] <Jemt> ftwig: I'm not sure I understand you. uname -a gives me the kernel version , yes. Then what ?
[03:59] <krazykit> Jemt: linux-headers-2.6.15-23, i believe
[03:59] <Faileas> krazykit: i want to cut it down since i may have another VM that needs more resources
[03:59] <Huhn> well in the 5th step of the install, where you have to choose where ubuntu should be installed, I chose manual and then tried to create partitions out of the free unformated space I'd left for this when installing windows. but somehow it just wont work
[03:59] <Jemt> krazykit: Ah, thanks :)
[04:00] <Huhn> in the next step i cant choose the paritions I just created
[04:00] <Melsen> wastrel: welp.. that didn't work
[04:00] <ftwig> Jemt:yes, and it jou grep for your kernel version you should find the headers - I think
[04:00] <Jemt> ftwig: Ok, thanks :)
[04:00] <krazykit> Faileas: then you should be able to get away with between 64 and 128 to at least run it
[04:00] <krazykit> Jemt: `uname -r` will do it
[04:00] <ftwig> Jemt:sorry I mean locate / find
[04:00] <Faileas> i was hoping for less
[04:00] <wastrel> Melsen:  i didn't think it would but it's at least easy... ok presumably theres some gnome config file screwing up... but i don't know offhand which one it would be.
[04:00] <wastrel> Melsen:  you can put back your /etc/network/interfaces
[04:00] <Melsen> I just did =)
[04:01] <Melsen> thanks anyways
[04:01] <wastrel> Melsen:  then just try sudo ifup <interface>  to activate
[04:01] <krazykit> Faileas: well, you could keep scaling back RAM in vmware until it stops working ;-)
[04:01] <wastrel> where interface is  eth0  or whatever
[04:01] <SeanTater> DBO: guess what -- still did not work
[04:01] <Melsen> recieve_packet failed on eth0: Network is down
[04:01] <Faileas> ;p
[04:01] <Jemt> krazykit & ftwig : Thanks, I think I got it now.  'uname -a' gave me the kernal version, and 'apt-get install linux-headers-'$uname-result'' is what I need
[04:02] <DBO> SeanTater, new log please (the .old one if you have already fixed things to back to before)
[04:02] <krazykit> Jemt: righto.
[04:02] <inrelief> hey all - so i've been doing some reading on NetworkManger and such, should I not use Network Monitor?
[04:02] <Jemt> :)
[04:03] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 working on Breezy?
[04:04] <ftwig> Jemt:apt-cache search linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:04] <SeanTater> DBO: log and .old comping up
[04:04] <Jemt> ftwig: Ah, cool - nested commands :)
[04:05] <SeanTater> DBO: it says - kubuntu has been mounted 24 times without being checked - check forces
[04:05] <SeanTater> DBO: it's checking file integrity
[04:05] <DBO> SeanTater, thats normal, after so much mounting you would figure its tired
[04:05] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 working on Breezy?
[04:06] <jbroome> Some_Person: it should work automagically.  is this onboard sound?  Is it enabled in the bios?
[04:06] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 working on Breezy?
[04:06] <krazykit> Some_Person: have you done a search on the forums or wiki?  i'd start there if there are errors
[04:06] <SeanTater> DBO: it's about 25% done
[04:06] <Faileas> well
[04:06] <DBO> SeanTater, yeah, takes a bit
[04:06] <Some_Person> What errors?
[04:06] <Faileas> ubuntu server is running at 32 MB of ram ;p
[04:07] <Some_Person> I get nothing at all
[04:07] <jbroome> Some_Person: it should work automagically.  is this onboard sound?  Is it enabled in the bios?
[04:07] <SeanTater> DBO: brb --
[04:07] <Some_Person> What codecs do I install
[04:07] <Some_Person> It's not onboard
[04:07] <Some_Person> it works in windows
[04:07] <jbroome> Faileas: nice!
[04:07] <krazykit> Some_Person: are you sure stuff isn't muted?
[04:07] <Some_Person> Yes
[04:07] <william__> Does anyone know a better plugin then MPlayer to watch wmv's and other online video files from Firefox?
[04:08] <Some_Person> Open volume control: No volume control elements and/or devices found.
[04:08] <wastrel> Melsen:  are you using dhcp or static addresses for your network?
[04:08] <krazykit> Some_Person: at the command line, do `lsmod |grep ac97`
[04:08] <kbrosnan> william__, your only choices I know of are mplayer or totem
[04:09] <Melsen> wastrel: dhcp.. and let me point out.. this all worked flawlessly before the upgrade
[04:09] <krazykit> Some_Person: don't paste the results, but does it show snd_ac97_codec?
[04:09] <Some_Person> it shows nothing
[04:09] <lAN^pARTY> my totem no work say missed pluguins
[04:09] <lAN^pARTY> can anyone help me please
[04:09] <wastrel> Melsen:  and eth0 is your network card?  is this wifi or ethernet?
[04:09] <Melsen> eth0 is my card
[04:09] <Melsen> ethernet
[04:09] <Melsen> not wifi
[04:09] <djcabz> william__, there is an app called vlc.  Whether it works in firefox the way you wish is another matter...
[04:09] <krazykit> Some_Person: ok, so for some reason, the modules aren't being loaded.  you say it's a realtek ac97 card?
[04:10] <Zyclop> lAN^pARTY: try randomly downloading totem plugins via synaptic. it worked for me
[04:10] <ftwig> william__:google for 'Ubuntu Restricted Formats' and install w32codecs
[04:10] <Some_Person> krazykit: Windows says it is
[04:11] <blakcheez> how do I set xine to be the default player?
[04:11] <lAN^pARTY> Zyclop how i do that i,m new ubuntu
[04:11] <lAN^pARTY> use suse before
[04:11] <william__> I dunno what I'm doing to cause Ubuntu to go back to the Nvidia screen and quit all my programs
[04:11] <lAN^pARTY> 3 days ubuntu dapper
[04:11] <wizzlefish> how do I get rid of wireframe minimizing/maximizing animations?
[04:11] <Zyclop> open synaptic. it should be in the system menue
[04:11] <wastrel> Melsen:  and if you do ifconfig , do you see eth0 ?
[04:12] <blakcheez> how do I set it so that xine is the player when I click a link?
[04:12] <Melsen> yep.. after doing a sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[04:12] <Melsen> but I cant get any IP number
[04:12] <krazykit> Some_Person: well... do `lspci | grep AC\'97` and see what it says
[04:12] <ftwig> blakcheez:uninstall totem
[04:12] <krazykit> Melsen: using dhcp?  sudo dhclient eth0
[04:12] <Some_Person> nothing
[04:13] <zybrid> !rules
[04:13] <ubotu> You are invited to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:13] <krazykit> Some_Person: ok, try `lspci |egrep audio`
[04:13] <Jemt> Hm, I now have two linux-headers-folders in /usr/src :-S  I Installed 'apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386' because I thought I was missing the header files - but after browsing to /usr/src, I can now see that i have both 'linux-headers-2.6.15-23' and 'linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386'. I wonder if the headers were already installed before I did the apt-get
[04:13] <blakcheez> ftwig: well I can't uninstall anything because of the locales
[04:13] <zybrid> Is there an channel for compiz?
[04:13] <amar-ze> I have connection isue , my resolv.conf is geting 'changed' every hour (or something like that) and when I say changed I mean that nameserver of my ISP dissapears from resolv.conf. Anyone knows why and maybe help me?
[04:13] <krazykit> zybrid: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:13] <zybrid> thanks
[04:13] <brandon__> !ati
[04:13] <ubotu> [ati]  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[04:13] <ftwig> Melsen:try dhclient
[04:13] <wastrel> Melsen:  oh
[04:13] <Jemt> .. and which directory I should use now..
[04:13] <mutante> amar-ze: changed by the DHCP server?
[04:13] <wastrel> Melsen:  use ifup instead of ifconfig.
[04:14] <wastrel> Melsen:  first take the interface down with ifconfig, then try ifup eth0
[04:14] <Melsen> says network is alredy configured
[04:14] <mutante> amar-ze: i think you would want to config your dhcp client to not take DNS from the dhcp server
[04:14] <ftwig> blakcheez:dont quite follow
[04:14] <wastrel> Melsen:  ah yes, try ifdown too
[04:14] <Some_Person> krazykit: 0000:00:10.2 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 026b (rev a2)
[04:14] <wastrel> ifup/ifdown keep some sort of lockfile :p
[04:15] <SeanTater> DBO: Okay -- I;m back -- I'll get cha the log files
[04:15] <mouldy> Hey all, is there a way to edit the Places menu (the one next to Applications & System) It's very cluttered with stuff I'll never use
[04:15] <Melsen> wastrel: tried to pull it down with ifconfig and up with ifup.. but with ifip it sayus the interface is already configured
[04:15] <Melsen> and then it doesnt show the device in ifconfig
[04:15] <amar-ze> mutante: well ifconfig shows ppp0 and its same IP and all but it just dissapear and I can't open a thing then I saved my nameservers in ns.txt and all time that happens I have to cat ns.txt > /etc/resolv.conf
[04:15] <wastrel> Melsen:  do ifdown eth0 also
[04:15] <wastrel> Melsen:  then ifup eth0 again...  (some sort of lockfile)
[04:15] <krazykit> Some_Person: ok... so either you have onboard sound that isn't recognized and your pci card isn't recognized... either way, i'd go pester the forums now.  do a search for `unknown nvidia audio` or make a new thread.
[04:15] <wastrel> Melsen:  ifconfig and ifup/down don't play well together.
[04:15] <blakcheez> ftwig: anytime I try to install/uninstall any program whether using the terminal or not, it says somthing about subprocess post-installation script
[04:15] <amar-ze> mutante: and my conn. is thru dhcp so I need that..
[04:16] <blakcheez> ftwig: and no one seems to know how to help
[04:16] <SeanTater> DBO: XORG log: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/765223
[04:16] <Melsen> when I did a sudo ifdown.. I got a bunch of permission denied on SIOCSIFADDR, SIOCSIFFLAGS and so on
[04:16] <Some_Person> dang
[04:16] <pawel_> test
[04:17] <wastrel> ignore that :] 
[04:17] <SeanTater> DBO: XORG LOG .old -> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/765224
[04:17] <SeanTater> DBO: ping
[04:17] <william__> Does anyone know what button configuration Im hitting to cause Ubuntu to take me out of everything and show me the Nvidia then the login screen?
[04:17] <mutante> amar-ze: yes, but you can config it to still accept the IP from the dhcp server,but not the dns server
[04:17] <DBO> SeanTater, I see it my friend
[04:17] <ftwig> blakcheez:OK - this is not good - I will open a one2one chat.  Paste in exactly what you get
[04:17] <mutante> amar-ze: afaik :p dont ask me how
[04:17] <Ng> william__: do you mean ctrl-alt-backspace?
[04:17] <SeanTater> DBO: you're still here!
[04:18] <krazykit> william__: ctrl-alt-backspace?
[04:18] <Melsen> brb
[04:18] <SeanTater> DBO: So what's wrong after all?
[04:18] <DBO> SeanTater, well your fglrx module is loading, but dri is puking, comment out dri now
[04:18] <william__> is that the only combo cause I doubt I was hitting those but its happen to be a couple times
[04:18] <amar-ze> mutante : did'n know that , thanks
[04:18] <amar-ze> mutante : and you don't know how ? :)
[04:19] <mutante> amar-ze: not really. it depends which client you are using, there are dhclient, pump, dhcpdc etc...
[04:19] <WINBALL> lol, I just can't figure out how to make a shortcut of Home Folder to desktop
[04:19] <amar-ze> mutante : thanks
[04:19] <DBO> WINBALL, its in gconf
[04:20] <Zyclop> WINBALL: are you using kde or gnome?
[04:20] <WINBALL> gnome
[04:20] <tritohc> compiz.real: No composite extension
[04:20] <tritohc> when trying to start XGL?
[04:20] <Ng> william__: yes, that's the only one. If you're still seeing your sessions disappear then your X server is probably crashing
[04:20] <SeanTater> DBO: restarting
[04:20] <DBO> tritohc, you are still in regular xorg
[04:20] <Ng> tritohc: I think XGl questions are best asked in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:21] <Zyclop> WINBALL: I's know how to do it with kde, but not with gnome.
[04:21] <tritohc> ok
[04:21] <wolki> hi, i have some problems with flash... I installed flashplugin-nonfree and it seems to work for some users, but not for others. am i doing something wrong?
[04:21] <Zyclop> wolki: perhaps it's something with the usergroups
[04:22] <wolki> Zyclop: that might be, the group setup is a bit messy since it's shared... which is the relevant group?
[04:22] <SeanTater> DBO: one guess
[04:23] <Zyclop> wolki: damned if i know
[04:23] <SeanTater> DBO: yep -- no boot
[04:23] <SeanTater> DBO: try #3
[04:23] <wolki> Zyclop: thanks anyway :)
[04:23] <ooboon2> Is it possible to mount a directory on a device? i.e. how to do this "mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1/etc /etc" ?
[04:23] <Zyclop> wolki: np
[04:23] <ftwig> blakcheez:you still there?
[04:24] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 (Ubuntu says it's Unknown Nvidia) sound card working in Breezy?
[04:24] <william__> so I'm having trouble with playing videos through firefox, I've been trying all the plugins for Firefox but now I thought I had one working but I get this http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5797/screenshotfilecabinetvideopowe.png
[04:24] <ftwig> anyone got evolution to filter spam?
[04:24] <blakcheez> yeah
[04:24] <SeanTater> DBO: actually -- I;m running out of tim
[04:24] <D4rksh4de> what was the command for installing programs?
[04:24] <SeanTater> DBO: time even
[04:25] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[04:25] <ubotu> I guess apt-get is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[04:25] <D4rksh4de> k, thx
[04:25] <Nookie^> william__: everybody seems to have problems with ff and plugins for videoplayer
[04:25] <SeanTater> DBO: I think I'll get back to ya
[04:25] <DBO> SeanTater, ok
[04:25] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 (Ubuntu says it's Unknown Nvidia) sound card working in Breezy?
[04:25] <SeanTater> DBO: but I'll get ya the logs anyway
[04:26] <DBO> SeanTater, kk
[04:26] <iqon> anyone have any idea why packages.ubuntu.com wouldn't be up to date?
[04:26] <nf4> hello
[04:26] <Frog_Racer> hello
[04:26] <nf4> isnt there a ubuntu hardware channle
[04:26] <william__> is there no end all solution to watching videos?
[04:26] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 (Ubuntu says it's Unknown Nvidia) sound card working in Breezy?
[04:26] <DBO> william__, vlc
[04:27] <tristan> hi
[04:27] <nf4> \ list isnt wrokng right now
[04:27] <tristan> Is there anyone under Dapper who has a properly working acrobat reader?
[04:27] <nf4> yes
[04:27] <Frog_Racer> @william__ vlc, its amazing just do sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:27] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 (Ubuntu says it's Unknown Nvidia) sound card working in Breezy?
[04:27] <nf4> oh wait nvm thats pdf
[04:28] <gizmo_the_great> Hi. I have installed NFS on two Ubuntu desktops so I can share a folder from one with the other. All seems to have gone OK and I have added Folder1 for sharing on Desktop1. How do I get Desktop2 to Folder1 on Desktop1?
[04:28] <tristan> nf4, are you talking to me?
[04:28] <nf4> well i was confused I was thinking pdf
[04:28] <SeanTater> DBO: not good - I can;t get it to boot without fglrx
[04:28] <nf4> nvm
[04:28] <prwlr> hello
[04:28] <Frog_Racer> @Some_Person have you tryed reconfiguring alsa do sudo dpkg reconfigure alsa
[04:28] <william__> Frog thanks but I already have VLC installed
[04:28] <DBO> SeanTater, did you switch the commenting?
[04:28] <william__> and I think I figured out that Shirt + Backspace kills my session
[04:28] <DBO> SeanTater, restart gdm
[04:28] <william__> no idea why
[04:28] <prwlr> how do i detect my modem? im using badger
[04:29] <charlesJacobs> is there some way to block comment in bash?
[04:29] <Zyclop> tristan: why not use evince?
[04:29] <Celestar> does ubuntu use LVM/EVMS by default?
[04:29] <prags> hii.. i just installed dapper from hoary... my sound is not working suddenly.. smtimes after i log out or restart, it starts working.. but now its not working at all.. music keeps playing but no sound... even the soft music when ubuntu first starts isnt thr now.. plz HELP!!!
[04:29] <nux31> what is X Server ?
[04:29] <Some_Person> lol
[04:29] <jbirdAngel> hello how do i change the permissions of the folder i have a fat32 partition mounted to? sudo chmod 777 doesnt work, it wont let me write to it?
[04:29] <Faileas> nux31: its the thing behind the GUI?
[04:30] <Nookie^> chmod 777 -R
[04:30] <Nookie^> try that
[04:30] <jbirdAngel> okay thanks
[04:30] <wastrel> no
[04:30] <Frog_Racer> @nux31 it is the program that the the graphical interface uses, without that you will be stuck at command line
[04:30] <Zyclop> nux31: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
[04:30] <wastrel> don't use chmod -R
[04:30] <Some_Person> nux31: do you get the infamous "cannot start x server (your graphical interface)"?
[04:30] <william__> Frog_Racer: with the VLC plugin for Firefox all videos online get "No Picture"
[04:30] <wastrel> ever
[04:30] <Faileas> Celestar: my install didn't but was an iption
[04:30] <evert_> hello all ... I have just installed xgl , it works fine (i think) but i can't see the 'whole' cube ?
[04:30] <jbirdAngel> ok
[04:30] <wastrel> !tell jbirdAngel about mountwindows
[04:30] <wastrel> jbirdAngel:  you have to mount it with user permissions
[04:30] <gizmo_the_great> Hi. I have installed NFS on two Ubuntu desktops so I can share a folder from one with the other. All seems to have gone OK and I have added Folder1 for sharing on Desktop1. How do I get Desktop2 to see the shared Folder1 on Desktop1?
[04:30] <jbirdAngel> wastrel: okay thank you ill check that out
[04:31] <SeanTater> DBO: yes, switched the comments -- no, I;m using KDM
[04:31] <Frog_Racer> william__ i tend not to use it as a plugin (i hate those inline videos, i like downloadin them personal ly)
[04:31] <prags> also.. alsaconf command cant be found even if alsa-base is installed
[04:31] <DBO> SeanTater, restart kdm then
[04:31] <ghoat> does anyone know how to find out what Update Manager just installed and where the programs are?
[04:31] <charlesJacobs> is there some way to block comment in bash?
[04:31] <gizmo_the_great> jbirdAngel, have you tried changing the ownership : chwon?
[04:31] <pema> hey, can anyone help me get my laptop to the right resolution, It worked with 5.10 but this new version has streched 1024px instead of its true screen wxga size
[04:31] <gizmo_the_great> jbirdAngel, have you tried changing the ownership : chown that should read?
[04:31] <wastrel> charlesJacobs:  sortof-  you can   do  if 0  <lines of stuff>  fi   around a block...
[04:31] <jbirdAngel> gizmo_the_great: no
[04:31] <william__> Frog_Racer: darn, I just view random videos all the time so that wont work
[04:31] <evert_> hello all ... I have just installed xgl , it works fine (i think) but i can't see the 'whole' cube ?
[04:32] <tristan> Zyclop, I use acrobat because I can read the pdf in Firefox so it helps to know whether I have to download this paper or not...
[04:32] <Mikelo> my sound card doesn't work on ubuntu 6.06, but it worked on 5.01
[04:32] <charlesJacobs> wastrel: ah.. thanks
[04:32] <Frog_Racer> william__ even though do sudo ap-get remove vlc and  sudo apt-get install vlc try the same for firefox
[04:32] <williswatson> is there someone have VisualStuio TeamSuit????where can i download it ????
[04:32] <william__> ok
[04:32] <wastrel> charlesJacobs:  or something like that- my bash syntax is off i'm sure
[04:32] <nf4> if you want to read pdf files that is easy
[04:32] <william__> thanks Frog_Racer
[04:32] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 (Ubuntu says it's Unknown Nvidia) sound card working in Breezy?+
[04:32] <Frog_Racer> i use swiftfox for intel now
[04:32] <tristan> nf4, I want to be able to read pdf in Firefox also
[04:32] <nf4> xpdf  in synaptic
[04:32] <SeanTater> DBO: No effect
[04:32] <nf4> with the plug in
[04:33] <blakcheez> ftwig, you still there?
[04:33] <Celestar> mhhhh
[04:33] <prags> i can see my sound card on sound preferences.. even all paramters on alsamixer are unmuted and set high.. any help plzzz
[04:33] <Mikelo> how do i check if my sound card is working^
[04:33] <Mikelo> ?
[04:33] <tristan> nf4, is there a kpdf plug-in?
[04:33] <Celestar> where do I find an LVM/EVMS configurator
[04:33] <Frog_Racer> william__ you are very welcome
[04:33] <DBO> SeanTater, did you remember to enable DRI again?
[04:33] <pema> there is no option to make the screen resolution higher than 1024px x 768
[04:33] <jbirdAngel> thank you all for trying ot help
[04:33] <pema> is this a fault with xorg?
[04:33] <nf4> i dont know
[04:33] <william__> no pema
[04:33] <SeanTater> DBO: yep -- enabled: here's xorg.conf http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/765252
[04:33] <nf4> i dont use k
[04:33] <ftwig> blakcheez:yes, ive opened a private conversation with you, go there
[04:34] <Frog_Racer> pema upen up the terminal the cd to /etc/X11
[04:34] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 (Ubuntu says it's Unknown Nvidia) sound card working in Breezy?+
[04:34] <william__> I had the same problem yesterday after installing Nvidia drivers, you have to reconfigure xserver
[04:34] <william__> I believe
[04:34] <Celestar> ubotu: LVM
[04:34] <ubotu> well, lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[04:34] <nf4> well I guess mine  opens the pdf in a new window
[04:34] <Celestar> great
[04:34] <Gecko> Hello. My keyboard shortcuts have suddentlig stopped working. (gnome/ubuntu breezy). I have tried deleting .gnome and .gnome2, with no luck. Does anyone have any ideas?
[04:34] <Celestar> ubotu: EVMS
[04:34] <prags> is thr any other way 2 check sound cards??
[04:34] <ubotu> well, evms is the Enterprise Volume Management System, for managing complex disk setups
[04:34] <Frog_Racer> pema the do sudo vim xorg.conf and add the resolution by hand
[04:34] <Mikelo> i hav a SiS sound card which doesn't work
[04:34] <nf4> so your not reading it in firefox but xpdf
[04:34] <tristan> nf4, I have xpdf but I canot see any plugin for Firefox
[04:34] <Celestar> ubotu: yes I know, but how do I set it up? :o
[04:34] <ubotu> Celestar: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:34] <SeanTater> DBO: Xorg.log http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/765256
[04:34] <pema> thanks Frog_Racer
[04:34] <pema> :)
[04:34] <evert_> hello all ... I have just installed xgl , it works fine (i think) but i can't see the 'whole' cube ?
[04:35] <Frog_Racer> pema or just go into the terminal and do sudo dpkg reconfigure xorg
[04:35] <william__> thats what was thinking of :P\
[04:35] <DBO> SeanTater, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/765259
[04:35] <dinamizador> dinamizador
[04:35] <krazykit> Celestar: um, ubotu is a bot, you know
[04:35] <e-head> Hey, anyone know of a tool to check the integrity of a hard drive other than badblocks ?  How do they check hard drives in Mac OS or Windows ? Badblocks takes like 3 weeks to run.
[04:35] <prags> hi... my sound on gnome/ubuntu dapper is not working suddenly.. smtimes after i log out or restart, it starts working.. but now its not working at all.. music keeps playing but no sound...
[04:36] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 (Ubuntu says it's Unknown Nvidia) sound card working in Breezy?+
[04:36] <evert_> hello all ... I have just installed xgl , it works fine (i think) but i can't see the 'whole' cube ?
[04:36] <Celestar> krazykit: I know ;)
[04:36] <Celestar> ubotu: trunking
[04:36] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Celestar
[04:36] <nf4> try document veiwer it opens it up in a new window its the closest I could get
[04:36] <Intangir> whats the best visual debugger for linux?
[04:36] <nf4> sorry i was confued
[04:36] <Celestar> Intangir: I like ddd
[04:36] <Intangir> its graphical?
[04:36] <nf4> you can get that in the add/remove
[04:36] <Celestar> krazykit: not a very knowledgable one...
[04:37] <Celestar> Intangir: you asked for a debugger with a GUI, right?
[04:37] <SeanTater> DBO: hold on
[04:37] <Intangir> ya
[04:37] <Celestar> Intangir: so I gave you one with a gui
[04:37] <vieirar> HI I just installed Dapper and then did Kubuntu-desktop install. It changed my login manager to KDM I would like to switch back to GDM how can I do this?
[04:37] <pema> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[04:37] <Celestar> because "I like ddd" but I don't use it ;)
[04:37] <krazykit> Celestar: well, it's a learning one.  people ask questions, and it learns where the answers are.  if you find an evms guide, /msg ubotu help to see how to add to it's knowledge.  it's like an irc wiki
[04:37] <SeanTater> DBO: I used the old one that worked from the pastebin
[04:37] <lee_> Hey, what's the best irc client for gnome?
[04:37] <feg> DBO, Frogzoo FYI, i think i've found the bug... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/5264/+index
[04:37] <lee_> I'm on Issi right now
[04:38] <DBO> SeanTater, it worked?
[04:38] <krazykit> lee_: irssi.
[04:38] <lilbit> breezy badger had a terminal services/vnc client built in, does dapper not have it?
[04:38] <Celestar> krazykit: oh anyone can add items to the database?
[04:38] <krazykit> yes, Celestar
[04:38] <SeanTater> DBO: not yet -- it has not finished booting
[04:38] <Celestar> good
[04:38] <Celestar> I thought it was limited
[04:38] <lee_> krazykit: you think irssi is the best? the terminal based one?
[04:38] <Frog_Racer> lilbit go sudo apt-get install xvncviewer
[04:38] <Celestar> irssi == good
[04:38] <DBO> SeanTater, you know you dont have to restart the whole PC every time...
[04:38] <evert_> hello all ... I have just installed xgl , it works fine (i think) but i can't see the 'whole' cube ?
[04:38] <SeanTater> DBO: worked now
[04:38] <Ng> lilbit: rdesktop/tsclient for terminal services (ie RDP)
[04:38] <DBO> SeanTater, you can simply restart kdm
[04:38] <Mikelo> !sis
[04:38] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mikelo
[04:39] <krazykit> lee_: yes.  absolutely.  but if you really really want a gui, xchat is, in general, one of the better ones
[04:39] <SeanTater> DBO: Yes, but when KDM does not come back up, what do I do?
[04:39] <Celestar> hm
[04:39] <DBO> SeanTater, you edit the file with vi and restart kdm again
[04:39] <lee_> Okay thanks. I'll probably stick to irssi.
[04:39] <Klaus> hi all
[04:39] <Celestar> ubotu: standard language
[04:39] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Celestar
[04:39] <lilbit> Ng, how do I invoke it?
[04:39] <Klaus> i have a question
[04:39] <Frog_Racer> krazykit do sudo apt-get install xvncviewer
[04:39] <SeanTater> DBO: okay -- well -- I've been editing it with nano over ssh anyway
[04:39] <krazykit> Frog_Racer: wrong person.
[04:40] <Ng> lilbit: Applications->Internet->Terminal Services Client
[04:40] <SeanTater> DBO: so can I start KDM from there too?
[04:40] <DBO> erm not likey
[04:40] <pema> jeez, now its telling me xorg isnt installed, lol
[04:40] <DBO> you need to do that locally
[04:40] <SeanTater> DBO: okay -- it's up
[04:40] <lilbit> Ng, I found it, thank you.
[04:40] <Klaus> i will a install on my desktop a weather view and cpu and mem info... but how
[04:40] <hmpedersen> Hey all
[04:40] <SeanTater> DBO: But there's not terminal when X won't start
[04:40] <Klaus> can any help me?
[04:40] <farous> anyone know if opera uses oss or alsa
[04:40] <Klaus> i habe ubuntu
[04:41] <Klaus> gnome
[04:41] <DBO> SeanTater, just press ctrl+alt+f1
[04:41] <KenSentMe> how can i format a ntfs usb harddisk?
[04:41] <SeanTater> DBO: aaahhh --
[04:41] <Celestar> LVM == difficult
[04:41] <Utopiate> NO XLIBS?!
[04:41] <SeanTater> DBO: I forgot about that..
[04:41] <Faileas> KenSentMe: with windows ;p
[04:41] <NoUse> Klaus well thats not a question, so its hard for us to help you
[04:41] <SeanTater> DBO: then F7 to try again
[04:41] <NoUse> Klaus oh I see it
[04:41] <KenSentMe> Faileas: can't this be done by ubuntu?
[04:41] <pema> correct command was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:42] <DBO> SeanTater, you got it
[04:42] <krazykit> KenSentMe: you can format it as something else.
[04:42] <Faileas> KenSentMe: no
[04:42] <SeanTater> DBO: anyway -- thanks -- I'll get back to you -- see you later!
[04:42] <NoUse> Flannel right click on the task bar and hit Add to panel
[04:42] <Utopiate> so... cedega requires xlibs... but dapper no longer uses it?
[04:42] <DBO> later SeanTater
[04:42] <lilbit> does someone know of a repository list I can copy and paste
[04:42] <NoUse> Klaus also, you can use other Desktops on ubuntu, you aren't bound to gnome
[04:42] <lilbit> one that adds universe and multiverse
[04:42] <KenSentMe> Let me rephrase my question: i have a ntfs usb hard drive on which i have no write access, how can i format it into any filesystem ii want?
[04:43] <hmpedersen> On the alternate iso for dapper, what exactly does OEM install?
[04:43] <prags> hi..my sound card is detected.. but on all my players(realplayer, xmms, rhythmbox, mplayer) music n video keeps playing but no soung..
[04:43] <hmpedersen> I clicked the wrong option and I hate to interrupt an install..
[04:43] <Klaus> i have seen in the internet any cool desktops with this... build in desktop picture a interactive cpu, mem info... can you recommend something
[04:43] <Fjodor> KenSentMe: Ah. Then you want mkfs
[04:43] <NoUse> !tell Klaus about gdesklets
[04:44] <Fjodor> KenSentMe: mkfs -t <fs type> /dev/<device>
[04:44] <KenSentMe> Fjodor: k, thanx
[04:44] <Klaus> i will see... thx
[04:44] <makko> in which repo do i find SKYPE?
[04:44] <Utopiate> Thanks krazykit!!
[04:44] <NoUse> hmpedersen it sets up the computer for OEM sellers, you can configure the computer and then run a command and on next boot it will prompt for user info and lanuage ,etc
[04:44] <farous> makko: seveas
[04:44] <NoUse> !tell makko about skype
[04:44] <Utopiate> You've saved my gaming life...
[04:44] <hmpedersen> NoUse ahh.. thanks
[04:44] <Fjodor> KenSentMe: man mkfs in a terminal. The actual mkfs command might need to be run with sudo
[04:45] <KenSentMe> Fjodor: how can i see what drives are mounted where?
[04:45] <Fjodor> df, for instance
[04:45] <Celestar> hmm
[04:45] <dr_willis> KenSentMe,  'mount' command shows that
[04:45] <Celestar> can /boot not sit on a LV?
[04:46] <makko> and any repo including GAIM2.0BETA3?
[04:46] <MisterN> hi
[04:46] <Fjodor> KenSentMe: But you need to umount the mount point, and run the mkfs command on the device
[04:46] <pyc> and suddenly the forum is down :(
[04:46] <Huhn> hey. ubuntu is up and running, only one problem: the screen display is somewhat a bit too much to the right, how can I fix that?
[04:46] <krazykit> makko: no, but if you do a search on the forums, you'll find a deb
[04:46] <makko> krazykit: thank you
[04:46] <freezey> whats the command from console to just open up a regular file
[04:47] <anfangs> what kind of file
[04:47] <krazykit> freezey: depends on the filetype.
[04:47] <freezey> text... or .html
[04:47] <freezey> actually both
[04:47] <makko> krazykit: any idea why seveas doesn't include gaim beta to his repo too?
[04:47] <krazykit> makko: you'd have to ask him.
[04:47] <wastrel> gaim eh
[04:48] <dr_willis> freezey,  any one of a dozen text editors,, (vi, nano, pico,) or 'more whatever.text' to view it
[04:48] <krazykit> freezey: well, you could use nano or vim.  nano is easy
[04:48] <Fjodor> freezey: Depends of your definition of opening. If you want it open in emacs, then emacs <file>, if in vi, vi <file>, if in firefox, firefox <file> and so on
[04:48] <aalya> hi, what are the default login (for dapper) ty
[04:48] <KenSentMe> Fjodor: can mkfs format it in fat32? Is this vfat?
[04:48] <freezey> oh ok
[04:48] <freezey> thanks alot
[04:48] <hmpedersen> NoUse, I guess that's why I noticed I chose wrong install.. It didn't promt me for user info ;)
[04:49] <gnomefreak> aalya: the name and password you set up when installing it
[04:49] <Fjodor> KenSentMe: I should think so, but mind you, I haven't played with MS fs' for 8 years
[04:49] <Seveas> makko, because seb128 already has it
[04:49] <gnomefreak> brb checking on coffee
[04:49] <anfangs> can i use the cygwin X as an x server for putty? (srry not ubuntu, per se)
[04:49] <aalya> gnomefreak and if he dont ask me :/ ?
[04:50] <gnomefreak> aalya: is this livecd or installed?
[04:50] <makko> Seveas: who's seb128 and does he have a repo?
[04:50] <william__> so Mplayer plugin for Firefox will play sound but it will not show me the video?
[04:50] <Seveas> makko, seb128 is the Ubuntu gnome guru and yes: people.ubuntu.com/~seb128
[04:51] <NoUse> hmpedersen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[04:51] <makko> Seveas: farous said you have skype in your dapper repo, but i don't find it. does seb128 have it too?
[04:51] <aalya> gnomefreak i was on breezy, i do the upgrade (dapper) and now i cant log me with my last login
[04:51] <Seveas> makko, I don't have skype for dapper yet, only for breezy
[04:51] <roler> has anyone gotten the metacity compisite manager working?
[04:52] <mcquaid> is there a safe way to upgrade a library manually?
[04:52] <krazykit> mcquaid: through apt ;-)
[04:52] <makko> Seveas: could you please add xlibs to your repo? it's just about 90 kb and it's helpful for opera backwards compatibility.
[04:52] <brosioz>  with hpijs could i monitor ink level of my hp ?
[04:52] <mcquaid> i want to upgrade speex as the latest linphone needs it, but a whole wack of things depend on speex
[04:52] <djcabz> oh how nice... they fixed the alsa mixer...  Now main actually controls both the headphones and internal PC speaker... go dapper
[04:52] <makko> Seveas: it is in the main breezy repo
[04:52] <makko> Seveas: but dapper doesn't have it, so opera won't install on dapper
[04:53] <djcabz> main == Master
[04:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell makko -about opera
[04:53] <NoUse> makko I believe its called xlibs-dev in dapper
[04:53] <gnomefreak> makko: there is a deb for opera made for dapper
[04:53] <Seveas> makko, no. Opera just haveto fix their crap.
[04:54] <makko> gnomefreak: where is it?
[04:54] <der0b> heya folks, can anyone tell me what the advantages are to using CIFS over SMBFS?
[04:54] <makko> gnomefreak: the one from their site isn't working either
[04:54] <makko> Seveas: maybe you're right
[04:54] <gnomefreak> makko: opent he link that ubotu sent you in pm its 4th one from bottom
[04:54] <hmpedersen> NoUse, thanks.. I thought it was time to give Dapper another chance, now that I finally tracked down the troublemaker which has wrecked my laptop 30 times over the past week.. (forcing reinstalls for both windows and linux)
[04:54] <Seveas> makko, I know I am right ;)
[04:54] <makko> Seveas: is it the same about skype? or what is the reason you don't have it yet?
[04:55] <Hattori> hello, i installed succesfully 6.06 final. now i wish to clean all other versions i had before, since those were betas. how to do that?
[04:55] <makko> Seveas: :))
[04:55] <Seveas> makko, no, for skype I simply didn't have the time yet and the .deb package from skype.com should work
[04:55] <gnomefreak> Seveas: where do i find seb's repo i dont see it in ES
[04:55] <lee_> Is there a way to search with apt-get? I don't know the exact name of the package I want.. but I know it's "frostwire".
[04:55] <der0b> that skype package soes work
[04:55] <krazykit> lee_: it's not in a repo.
[04:55] <wastrel> lee_:  apt-cache search
[04:55] <der0b> *does
[04:56] <makko> Seveas: what's wrong about "deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/ ./"? it simply won't work.
[04:56] <aalya> gnomefreak i was on breezy, i do the upgrade (dapper) and now i cant log me with my last login
[04:56] <lee_> Okay, thanks.
[04:56] <wastrel> what's frostwire?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> aalya: sounds like something got messed up during upgrade
[04:56] <gnomefreak> wastrel: simular to limewire
[04:56] <aalya> gnomefreak i do re-install ?
[04:56] <lee_> wastrel: it's like limewire
[04:56] <Huhn> hey could someone help me? my screendisplay is somewhat too far to the right. how can I adjust that?
[04:57] <Celestar> /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root <= where can I find what exactly this device is?
[04:57] <Seveas> gnomefreak, I've added it only to the new version of the source-o-matic
[04:57] <gnomefreak> new version?
[04:57] <Seveas> gnomefreak, *.ubuntu-nl.org will get a huge overhaul soon. I am working on it
[04:57] <gnomefreak> aalya: i dont know any other way to fix it
[04:57] <gnomefreak> ahhhhh
[04:58] <Celestar> ubotu: device names
[04:58] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Celestar
[04:58] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[04:58] <jbirdAngel> i was given a file that should automatically mount my partitions, it says to run sudo bash diskmounter, i have it on my desktop and it cant find it where am i supposed to put it?
[04:59] <Mikelo> my si7012 sound card won't emit any sound, anybody heard of this yet?
[04:59] <achraf> hello...am trying to server my Ubuntu install to terminals(diskless machines) from my debian server, for some reason, it keep saying : NFS: RPC call returned error 101  after starting to load and freez here...any ideas?
[04:59] <Celestar> ok who can enlighten me about those "mapped" devices ?
[04:59] <Hattori> hello, i installed succesfully 6.06 final. now i wish to clean all other versions i had before, since those were betas. how to do that? i just need to delete all older *linux-image* and relative restricted modules?
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> achraf: Are you mounting it with nfs -o nolock ?
[05:00] <wastrel> Hattori:  that is not necessary, but if you want to remove older kernels you can use synaptic
[05:00] <jbirdAngel> wastrel: please see your pm?
[05:00] <Hattori> wastrel: and what i need to remove with synaptic?
[05:00] <makko> Seveas: would there any problem if i added your breezy repo along with your dapper repo?
[05:01] <wastrel> jbirdAngel:  you probably need to use ./diskmounter in the command
[05:01] <gnomefreak> makko: i wouldnt do that
[05:01] <achraf> am sorry, am a bit new here,,where do i set that?i followed some tutorials and i was able to successfully serve Mandriva, and debian to other terminals,,
[05:01] <jbirdAngel> wastrel: okay thank you
[05:01] <wastrel> jbirdAngel:  acutally, do  cd Desktop, then run the diskmounter command
[05:01] <jbirdAngel> okay thank you
[05:02] <Seveas> makko, not that I know of, but if you add it just for breezy only add the extras section
[05:02] <darkplace> hi all :)
[05:02] <wastrel> hi darkplace, how are you
[05:02] <darkplace> am I or dapper is very very different between breezy ? :S
[05:03] <revmouse> How do you mount an NTFS partition automatically so users can access it?
[05:03] <darkplace> i'm fine , thanks :D
[05:03] <Mikelo> !alsa
[05:03] <ubotu> from memory, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[05:03] <NET||abuse> hey all, my keyboard layout is odd.... i can't get an at sign, i get 
[05:03] <D4rksh4de> does Ubuntu has something similar like XP's task manager?
[05:03] <NET||abuse> i'm trying english (ireland) layouts.. none are right.
[05:03] <mcquaid> hello, i need to upgrade the lib speex to latest, what's the best way going about this?
[05:03] <aalya> what's the default password on ubuntu 6.04 PLZ ty
[05:03] <RadiantFire> D4rksh4de: yes
[05:03] <darkplace> none works under dapper :S
[05:03] <krazykit> aalya: there is no default!
[05:03] <darkplace> can't mount ntfs fs
[05:04] <mcquaid> in synaptic, if i flag speex for removal, a ton of deps get flagged for removal
[05:04] <sudomania4> whis is edgy's first alpha?
[05:04] <Mikelo> my SI7012 doesn't work under dapper, worked under breezy, halp!!
[05:04] <KenSentMe> !tell aalya about root
[05:04] <darkplace> jvm doesn't works properly...
[05:04] <D4rksh4de> RadiantFire: and it is?
[05:04] <RadiantFire> D4rksh4de: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:04] <darkplace> what a rare things :S
[05:04] <Mikelo> !si7012
[05:04] <ubotu> Mikelo: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:04] <krazykit> sudomania4: the repos aren't even up yet man.
[05:04] <D4rksh4de> RadiantFire: ubuntu
[05:04] <makko> Seveas: thank you
[05:04] <mcquaid> can i remove speex with dpkg but force it to keep all deps, then compile latest speex and install with checkinstall so at least it's a deb
[05:04] <RadiantFire> system->admin->system monitor
[05:04] <Celestar> this information is hidden :P
[05:04] <D4rksh4de> RadiantFire: thanks
[05:04] <KenSentMe> aalya: when ubuntu asks for a password it's mostly the password of the first user you created when you installed ubuntu
[05:04] <darkplace> Dapper is really a STABLE branch now?
[05:04] <Cubies> I'm looking forward to use Ubuntu 6.06 64-bit version with my AMD 64-bit processor. ^.6
[05:05] <makko> Seveas: any idea why i am getting this error: "http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/./Release: No MD5Sum entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/people.ubuntu.com_%7ejbailey_snapshot_bzr_._Release"?
[05:05] <NET||abuse> now i'm on british layout.. i get  instead of at sign.
[05:05] <wastrel> schweet.  userexample.com
[05:05] <makko> NET||abuse: i guess you'll find @ next to L
[05:05] <Cubies> I keep seeing little black squares.
[05:06] <NET||abuse> :;
[05:06] <hmpedersen> Any word on when the forums will be back?
[05:06] <danst> Hi i am having a problem with my hosts.deny... i wrote ALL:ALL in it but it does not change a thing...
[05:06] <Seveas> makko, no
[05:06] <NET||abuse> ###~`!$%&*
[05:06] <NET||abuse> nothin
[05:06] <wastrel> danst:  i think only inetd stuff uses hosts.allow and hosts.deny  and sshd.
[05:06] <NET||abuse> ><,./?#;:lLkK] }[{=+-_0)9(8*7&6%5$432!
[05:06] <NET||abuse> no, i can get anything onn this.
[05:07] <lee_> Hey, where do I get xlibs from?
[05:07] <NET||abuse> i cant email people???
[05:07] <Cubies> Is the emigration from Windows XP to Ubuntu 6.06 difficult?
[05:07] <dr_willis> danst,  you may want to read up on the 'inetd' and xinetd services..  how they use those files.
[05:07] <lee_> Cubies: No not at all
[05:07] <bleaked> so what do you guys think of this..my friend has been struggling with his dell inspiron 6000 notebook install.. literally everything is detected, and seems to work -- except his wireless card (which is detected) just will not connect.  (and this is sitting right next to his router -- and he's very technically inclined)
[05:07] <NoUse> lee_ its called xlibs-dev in dapper
[05:07] <dr_willis> Cubies,  it can be a joy. :P depends on what you are doing/needing.
[05:07] <Cubies> I'm wondering if it will pick up my external broadband modem.
[05:07] <lee_> NoUse: okay thanks
[05:07] <Huhn> could anyone help me please? My screen display isn't working properly but I can't find any guide on it in the wiki
[05:07] <Cubies> Can I still play all my PC FPS games?
[05:07] <Hattori> i have linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 and linux-image-686 2.6.15.22 if i run " sudo dpkg -l | grep linux-image " command. can i del linux-image-686 or is it needed?
[05:07] <dr_willis> bleaked, wireless is a pain. even under windows. :P
[05:07] <dr_willis> !fixres
[05:07] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:08] <NET||abuse> asdfa'''##~~;:Ll
[05:08] <hmpedersen> Cubies, it depends.. Sometimes it's easy.. Sometimes it's not :) Depends on who you are :)
[05:08] <NoUse> Cubies probably not
[05:08] <Cubies> Shame.
[05:08] <danst> ok then how can i just install a simple firewall which allows my home network to access the ubuntu box but nobody else?
[05:08] <dr_willis> Shame? You dont want to know the last few hrs ive spent fighting with windows. :)
[05:08] <adamant1988> if I get the ubuntu disks from Shipit can I do a server install from those?
[05:08] <danst> which can you recon? for the console
[05:08] <Cubies> My job is fighting with Windows.
[05:08] <bleaked> dr_willis: well, i understand that, but we're kind of stumped..any suggestions?  anything would be appreciated..
[05:08] <Cubies> Especially Windows Server 2000.
[05:09] <kenneho> How do I copy image from clipboard to file?
[05:09] <dr_willis> bleaked,  lots of goodling and twiddling. and reading.. wireless support is progressing so fast in some areas its great.. but that also leads to 4+ ways to get the things working... plus it pays to know all aobut how wireless works.
[05:09] <winbond> i did sofware raid0 and the setup stops at the GRUb installation screen , does anyone know what can couse this?
[05:09] <Cubies> Well I hope publishers start publishing PC games for Linux operating systems soon.
[05:09] <lee_> Apt-get says I already have xlibs-dev, however when I attempt to install Cedega it says "Error: Dependecy is not satisfiable: xlibs
[05:10] <Hattori> i have linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 and linux-image-686 2.6.15.22 if i run " sudo dpkg -l | grep linux-image " command. can i del linux-image-686 or is it needed?
[05:10] <NoUse> Cubies some do, id software and the poeple that make UT tourney do
[05:10] <dr_willis> Games are for the weak! :P
[05:10] <Cubies> Arh, Quake 4.
[05:10] <lee_> BZFlag is fun
[05:10] <Cubies> Do Id make Half-Life?
[05:10] <Engome> Hattori to delete a linux image search for linux-image in synaptic
[05:10] <NoUse> Cubies no
[05:10] <TheSheep> dr_willis: yeah, true machos do deathmatches irl
[05:10] <Cubies> Darn.
[05:11] <lee_> Cubes: you can use Wine or Cedega though
[05:11] <winbond> i did sofware raid0 and the setup stops at the GRUb installation screen , does anyone know what can couse this?
[05:11] <boogaloo> is this possible to have a working printer under ubuntu dapper ?
[05:11] <dr_willis> TheSheep,  or "GTA"  IRL.
[05:11] <kane77> how can I not run some services at startup??? (eg it runs PCMCIA but I dont have one so its useless to run it on startup...)
[05:11] <lee_> boogaloo: yes.
[05:11] <Cubies> The idea is to emigrate from Windows.
[05:11] <Cubies> Haha.
[05:11] <dr_willis> boogaloo,  yes.. and cups is giveing me fits as well.
[05:11] <pdc303> hey people. Do u know how to setup a simple nfs share ?
[05:11] <dr_willis> !nfs
[05:11] <ubotu> I heard nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:11] <Cubies> Like going on holiday and taking food from home with you.
[05:11] <lee_> Apt-get says I already have xlibs-dev, however when I attempt to install Cedega it says "Error: Dependecy is not satisfiable: xlibs
[05:12] <lee_> any thoughts?
[05:12] <boogaloo> i'm unable to make it works at all
[05:12] <dr_willis> lee_,  thats mentioned in the cedega forums. as to several ways to fix it..
[05:12] <Celestar> is there any gui to LVM?
[05:12] <lee_> Okay, lol I'll look it up then..
[05:12] <dr_willis> lee_,  i ended up altering the cedega deb files and removeing the xlib dependency
[05:12] <Cubies> This is like watching Star Trek.
[05:12] <Scanner_49512> anyone having touble conencting to windoze shares since upgrading to daper
[05:12] <dr_willis> lee_,  and yes - its a pain the cedega guys cant fix it right. :P
[05:12] <lee_> dr_willis: did it work fine after that?
[05:13] <lee_> haha.
[05:13] <kane77> disable some services to start at startup??? (eg it runs PCMCIA but I dont have one so its useless to run it on startup...)
[05:13] <KenSentMe> boogaloo: what have you tried to install a printer?
[05:13] <dr_willis> lee_,  works fine. it dosent need that xlibs stuff.. it just 'wants' it.
[05:13] <Huhn> ubotu: Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto |  <- somehow this doesn't get me where I want to
[05:13] <Cubies> Fire da laser cannons into the vorex causing a spirrel graviational pull.
[05:13] <TheSheep> kane77: try system->services
[05:13] <boogaloo> yes
[05:13] <lee_> dr_willis: ok cool. Can you tell me how you removed the depenedency? Or should I just go look it up ;P
[05:14] <boogaloo> it worked properly under breezy, and since i upgraded, it doesn't work
[05:14] <dr_willis> lee_,  the directions show ya how to ' take apart the deb, then ya edit 1 file and remove a (xlibs) depnecdy and then rebuild the deb
[05:14] <dr_willis> lee_,  took all of 2 min. :P
[05:14] <lee_> dr_willis okay, thanks lol
[05:14] <kane77> TheSheep, but there are only few of them.. no bluetooth or PCMCIA...
[05:15] <danst> could somebody recommend me a frontend for iptables for the console?
[05:15] <cdubya> can someone tell me what files I need to remove manually to completely remove any evidence of totem mplayer and the other movie players so that I can get these things to work with Dapper?
[05:15] <TheSheep> kane77: I guess the others are in the startup scripts or even initrd :/
[05:15] <dr_willis> danst,  check freshmeat.net perhaps.
[05:15] <cdubya> I've removed the debs, but it's to no avail
[05:15] <Cubies> Is that porn?
[05:15] <tuxadmin> Hi there
[05:15] <DBO> danst, eh, time to learn iptables I think =)
[05:15] <dr_willis> cdubya,  remove them with the 'purge' option.
[05:16] <cdubya> sudo apt-get remove package --purge   ?
[05:16] <danst> DBO: I know but there so much to do and so little time
[05:16] <tuxadmin> How is xgl+Compiz in Dapper ?
[05:16] <DBO> danst, not to worry, iptables is a 4 hour jobbie
[05:16] <kane77> TheSheep, I was told to remove/move the unwanted processes from /etc/rcX.d but this did nothing as they start anyway...
[05:17] <TheSheep> cdubya: or use an option to completely remove in synaptic
[05:17] <makko> what's wrong about "deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/ ./"? it simply won't work.
[05:17] <makko> could somebody please give me a working url?
[05:17] <makko> or a working sources.list entry?
[05:17] <dr_willis> !easyrepo
[05:17] <ubotu> dr_willis: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:17] <dr_willis> !easysource
[05:17] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:17] <cdubya> so is the command sudo apt-get purge package_name or is it different
[05:17] <danst> DBO: could you borrow me some of your experience? where did you learn it?
[05:17] <adamant1988> Are the regular Ubuntu CDs usable as server installs?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> cdubya: sudo apt-get remove --purge package name
[05:17] <h3sp4wn> DB0: Do you know alot about iptables (specifically ipt_CONNMARK, tc and l7-filters)
[05:18] <cdubya> kewl. thanks
[05:18] <NoUse> adamant1988 I don't believe so
[05:18] <Seveas> adamant1988, yes
[05:18] <gnomefreak> adamant1988: yes i think so but there are server cds now
[05:18] <Seveas> you just have to install the correct packages
[05:18] <winbond> i did sofware raid0 and the setup stops at the GRUb installation screen , does anyone know what can couse this?
[05:18] <adamant1988> Well, the reason I'm asking
[05:18] <adamant1988> there is no Xubuntu CDs
[05:18] <gnomefreak> adamant1988: why isnt there i have 2
[05:18] <NoUse> adamant1988 yes there are
[05:18] <adamant1988> and I need something that I can use to put Xubuntu on some older hardware.
[05:18] <adamant1988> Does Xubuntu do shipit now?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> no
[05:19] <rubso> damn, cdrecord won't stop !
[05:19] <h3sp4wn> DB0: And the mangle table for doing quality of service (I couldn't understand this properly in alot longer than four hours)
[05:19] <gnomefreak> adamant1988: but you can download the iso for xubuntu
[05:19] <Scanner_49512> aarrrggh dropped,  did anyone else have trouble connecting to windoze shares after upgrading to daper
[05:19] <adamant1988> Yeah, I can do that, but I worry about my quality of burn
[05:19] <Hattori> actually i have kde, how to install xubuntu?
[05:19] <Cubies> Use Nero 6.
[05:19] <Hattori> !xubuntu
[05:19] <ubotu> xubuntu is probably Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[05:19] <wizzlefish> is it a good idea to remove obsolete software? (I'm upgrading to Dapper right now)
[05:19] <adamant1988> What I'm at is that I won't be able to install it from inside a GUI... this hardware is OLD
[05:20] <DBO> danst, eh, no time to teach iptables, just google that sucker, theres plenty of places to learn
[05:20] <gnomefreak> adamant1988: download it check the md5 than burn on very very slow speed (slowest you can) you should be fine
[05:20] <Celestar> hm...
[05:20] <Celestar> this partition table is weird
[05:20] <danst> DBO:  that's just a 5 min jobbie!;-))
[05:20] <Celestar> I have sda1 and sda2 which look sane, and I have sda2 which is sda1 + sda2. System "WHole disk". what is that?
[05:21] <wizzlefish> well, I did - hope it didn't mess anything up
[05:21] <Pelo> I just installed Ubuntu on a dedicated hd, and I now need to configures stuff like vid card and dsl internet connection and such,  do you guys know of a guide somewhere for a linux noob ?
[05:21] <zhenre> can anyone suggest an administration package for ubuntu server, I'd like to learn how to set up a database driven website...probably with ruby on rails
[05:21] <gnomefreak> Pelo: help.ubuntu.com
[05:21] <Huhn> oh wtf. i hate every linux thing, it's just too difficult to handle.
[05:21] <dr_willis> !lamp
[05:21] <zhenre> I've used webmin before but it doesn't seem to be default
[05:21] <raboof_> since a while, i have to re-plug my usb mouse and keyboard after hibernation. didn't find anything in launchpad yet, anyone else recognise this?
[05:22] <Pelo> gnomefreak  , thanks
[05:22] <gnomefreak> Pelo: yw
[05:22] <dr_willis> zhenre,  you can install webmin - some like it.. some hate it. :P
[05:22] <krazykit> Huhn: it's only too difficult to handle if you're ont willing to learn.
[05:22] <gnomefreak> dr_willis: not in dapper
[05:22] <gnomefreak> they pulled it ;)
[05:22] <zhenre> is there anything better than webmin
[05:22] <dr_willis> gnomefreak,  its getting more and more where im about to drop ubuntu.....
[05:22] <boogaloo> god, now it works, thanks to http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[05:22] <dr_willis> gnomefreak,  of course they proberly had it so crippled...
[05:23] <zhenre> I generally like the web interface as I don't want to have X installed
[05:23] <grasshopper> dr_willis: huh? what happened?
[05:23] <StNickSA> If there's someone here who wouldn't mind giving me some quick assistance with dapper and Samba, please PM me.
[05:23] <dr_willis> grasshopper,  for a start .. CUPS is a bit of a fiasco at the moment. :P
[05:23] <grasshopper> dr_willis: drop Ubuntu and then what?
[05:23] <EngFBN> Hi. Evolution 2.6.1 keeps disconnecting from my IMAP4 mailbox. Am I missing something?
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: webmin requires enabling root (probably why it was removed)
[05:23] <dr_willis> grasshopper,  go back to gentoo perhaps.
[05:23] <njan> If someone here has used ubuntu with multiseat, would they mind giving me a shout in private?
[05:23] <lee_> dr_willis: I solved a different way, I downloaded xlibs from the ubuntu breezy website ;p
[05:24] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: you can do it without enabling root
[05:24] <dr_willis> lee_,  thats not the ideal fix. :P
[05:24] <grasshopper> dr_willis: well, my printer works fine. What have you got?
[05:24] <dr_willis> grasshopper,  every page i print.. i have to restart cups server for it to print another print job. :P  aparently theres a lot of other people with issues as well.
[05:24] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[05:24] <zhenre> I'm willing to try something more aligned with the ubuntu philosophy if it does the job similarly well
[05:24] <Wyred> ok, i've made some songs, so need to save them to disk but k3b says that mp3 is an unknown file format
[05:25] <dr_willis> Wyred,  you need to install some k3b-mp3 package i recall.
[05:25] <mlowe> !restricted
[05:25] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:25] <lee_> I've done this before, but forgotten, how do you enable 3D Acceleration?
[05:25] <Wyred> synaptic?
[05:26] <boogaloo> hourray ! it works
[05:26] <makko> hey, does "deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/ ./" work for anybody?
[05:26] <Hattori> actually i have kde, how to install xubuntu?
[05:26] <dr_willis> !xubuntu
[05:26] <ubotu> I guess xubuntu is Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[05:26] <grasshopper> dr_willis: wow, sorry to hear it.  Well, if you have the can-do gentoo is probably the best Linux distro. But gee, if you can make gentoo work, can Dapper be that hard?!
[05:26] <gnomefreak> Hattori: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <dr_willis> grasshopper,  its the fighting with UNdoing what the ubuntu guys have done.. that is the hard part.   im monitoring the cups  issue for the moment.
[05:27] <gnomefreak> makko: he problly having issues with server or hes changing things with the repo
[05:27] <hampton-> For some reason, new users are denied SSH abilities, and old users still have the ability. I am creating the user accounts with "adduser" and using PAM passwords. Its odd that old accounts work, but any new accounts don't have access. Is there some flag I need to set to allow a user to ssh in?
[05:27] <makko> gnomefreak: i haven't been able to access it for about one week. have you?
[05:27] <Hattori> gnomefreak: but after it i will have 2 version in grub to boot? xubuntu and kubuntu?
[05:27] <cdubya> is there some known bug with totem on Dapper? This is nuts. I'm really regretting ever upgrading at this point.
[05:28] <hampton-> The auth.log says "user unknown", but each of them definitely exist.
[05:28] <gnomefreak> makko: i dont use it i have nothing atm to upload to debian/ubuntu servers
[05:28] <_bt> hi guys! im a convert from fedora! everything looks nice!!
[05:28] <grasshopper> gnomefreak: we don't want to loose dr_willis to gentoo. Common lets make his printer work :s
[05:28] <Mikelo> no sound on ac97 realtek, anybody?? (worked on breezy)
[05:28] <NoUse> cdubya known bug involving?
[05:28] <zhenre> gnomefreak: any suggestions for managing everything?
[05:28] <enyc> Mikelo: hrrm : ?is the relevant module loaded?
[05:28] <makko> gnomefreak: what do you mean upload? anybody could upload to it? if so, how?
[05:29] <_bt> :))))))) i have a question if i may! my pc speaker is dead loud and annoying, can i make ubuntu stop using it for things in the shell (tab completion etc...)
[05:29] <gnomefreak> grasshopper: if that many pewople have issues like his the bug is more than likely known and being fixed
[05:29] <Mikelo> engla, u mean the packages?
[05:29] <cdubya> involving totem and/or libdvdcss or libdvdread.....I swear, I've been trying to get DVD playback on this Dapper setup going for the last day and a half and about to go back to Breezy.
[05:29] <danfg> how do i mv and cp including "hidden" files that start with a dot?
[05:29] <grasshopper> gnomefreak: yea, teething problems with Dapper still
[05:29] <TheSheep> _bt: there should be a setting for that in the sound preferences...
[05:29] <gnomefreak> makko: thats what that repo is bazzar is to beable to upload packages/patches you made
[05:29] <Mikelo> enyc, on breezy it wored out of the box
[05:29] <hampton-> _bt: In Terminal... Edit > Current Profile ... then uncheck Terminal Bell.
[05:29] <enyc> Mikelo: maybe 'snd-via82xx' module.....
[05:29] <enyc> Mikelo: maybe-so...
[05:30] <gizmo_the_great> Hi. I have installed NFS on two Ubuntu desktops so I can share a folder from one with the other. All seems to have gone OK and I have added Folder1 for sharing on Desktop1. How do I get Desktop2 to see the shared Folder1 on Desktop1?
[05:30] <enyc> Mikelo: maybe it doesnt in dapper ;-)
[05:30] <grasshopper> dr_willis: prolly teething problems with Dapper still is all.lets hope
[05:30] <AK7> cdubya: easyubuntu woked for me
[05:30] <Mikelo> enyc,  how do i load it?
[05:30] <gnomefreak> makko: thats all that repo offers if your not a developer for debian/ubuntu you dont need it
[05:30] <TheSheep> _bt: back in the 386 days I used to do a speak-o-tomy, connecting the speaker via the turbo button... ;)
[05:30] <_bt> thanks TheSheep and hampton- , i will go with hamptons :D
[05:30] <NoUse> cdubya what have you tried? I assume you've read the restricted formats howto
[05:30] <enyc> Mikelo: try 'sudo modprobe snd-via82xx'
[05:30] <_bt> and one more...to add open terminal to right click menu? (sure theres a package for this...)
[05:30] <AK7> Restricted formats doesn't cover DVD, I think
[05:30] <Cubies> I miss my Turbo button.
[05:30] <Cubies> I had one for my 486 machine.
[05:31] <enyc> Mikelo: there are many modules available... see   /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/sound/pci/  or similar
[05:31] <Cubies> I used to press it, but with no noticeable performance.
[05:31] <_bt> TURBO!!
[05:31] <Cubies> Exactly.
[05:31] <cdubya> yes, I've tried that....AK7, yeah, I could consider that, except at this point, I've got so much time in to get xubuntu customized the way I want it and I just can't see putting in that time again.....
[05:31] <Mikelo> enyc, i tried that one but it didnt work
[05:31] <NoUse> AK7 it does
[05:31] <TheSheep> Cubies: the idea was kind of weird -- as if you ever wanted it to go slower...
[05:31] <enyc> Mikelo: if you find the module that works...  add the name of the module to /etc/modules
[05:31] <cdubya> NoUse, yes, I followed that
[05:31] <enyc> Mikelo: see 'dmesg'
[05:31] <grasshopper> ubuntu forums are down?
[05:31] <egu> I have a java problem - "can't find java!" when trying to run javaprogram.. help..
[05:31] <enyc> Mikelo: and see 'lsmod' -- has it _loaded_ now?
[05:31] <cdubya> I'm getting errors about libdvdcss. Where can I get it?
[05:31] <Cubies> Thinking about it now, you could have a Turbo button for overclocking.
[05:32] <AK7> cdubya: yeah, i'm using xubuntu too and it's heavily customized, easyubuntu didn't touch it except to enable DVD's and stuff
[05:32] <enyc> Mikelo: you may need to re-login to get the preety icon for sound etc.
[05:32] <Cubies> You press Turbo and it overclocks your processor and starts the liquid cooling.
[05:32] <gizmo_the_great> any1 know why Ubuntu Forums down?
[05:32] <grasshopper> is Ubuntu falling apart?  :o  Can't get into the forums
[05:32] <NoUse> Cubies there is a specific howto on the restricted formats page for installing libdvdcss
[05:32] <raboof_> hm, this is strange. new X applications won't display
[05:32] <NoUse> Cubies oops wrong nik
[05:32] <raboof_> and n'either will the logout box
[05:32] <rgz> AK7: what's different in xubuntu?
[05:32] <grasshopper> cdubya: synaptic
[05:32] <Cubies> The letter 'x'
[05:32] <NoUse> cdubya there is a specific howto on the restricted formats page for installing libdvdcss
[05:32] <raboof_> any ideas what could be wrong?
[05:33] <AK7> rgz: Xfce instead of gnome... I reccomend it highly
[05:33] <NoUse> cdubya https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-49d7b89e22f864732e033a68a77cfe144f23af8c
[05:33] <TheSheep> raboof_: can you see them working in ps?
[05:33] <Mikelo> enyc, i need to relogin everytime i load a module?
[05:33] <AK7> youre right nouse...
[05:33] <grasshopper> gizmo_the_great: Why, what happened to the forums?
[05:33] <enyc> egu: see ubuntu jiki for 'restrictedformats' on howto install sun java runtime...
[05:33] <AK7> I stand corrected
[05:33] <enyc> egu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-7f95c209db645e02a5dac72d8585fd2f3657b6f5
[05:33] <raboof_> TheSheep: yes
[05:33] <enyc> Mikelo: errrm
[05:33] <enyc> Mikelo: best that you read the end of the 'dmesg'
[05:33] <Terminus> does anybody know how to change the usplash artwork? i tried update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so but it only changed the shutdown artwork. bootup is still stuck with the kubuntu artwork.
[05:34] <egu> enyc: I'll look into it.. ty!
[05:34] <enyc> Mikelo: to _see_ if it reports seeing the sound device etc.
[05:34] <TheSheep> raboof_: messed anything with libraries?
[05:34] <enyc> Mikelo: best if you look at 'lsmod' to see if the module stays loaded etc.
[05:34] <raboof_> TheSheep: not afaik, pretty clean install
[05:34] <sladen> Terminus: sudo update-initramfs -u $(uname -r)
[05:34] <raboof_> they don't show up in the taskbar either
[05:34] <grasshopper> Guys! i need to know what happened to the Ubuntuforums?! Is Microsoft staging a coup d'Etat on Ubuntu? Have they taken over Ubuntu headquarters?
[05:34] <TheSheep> raboof_: maybe they start on different workspace? XD
[05:35] <ubuntugeek> I don't have an eta on when the forums will be back right now
[05:35] <raboof_> hmm I don't see anything in the gnome desktop switching thingy
[05:35] <Terminus> sladen: thanks. :)
[05:35] <Mikelo> enyc, lsmod = snd_via82xx            28824  0
[05:35] <kq> what's the commandline parameter for starting openoffice2 in the background, and making it stay always resident?  the checkbox in options worked for me before, but not since i upgraded to dapper...
[05:35] <Mikelo> enyc, it's loaded right?
[05:35] <TheSheep> raboof_: or maybe you've got second X server? try alt+f6,7,8,9
[05:35] <sladen> grasshopper: you *would like* to know.  You do not *need* to know
[05:36] <TheSheep> raboof_: alt+ctrl
[05:36] <deus_> I have had an experience where the computer freezes all the time, even when in bios or boot-up
[05:36] <deus_> I heard dapper borks ATI cards
[05:36] <sladen> grasshopper: in fact, I would like to know aswell
[05:36] <deus_> and now i have installed dapper on a new laptop with ati
[05:36] <deus_> should i be worried
[05:36] <AK7> deus: workin for me, X300
[05:36] <NoUse> deus_ ATI borks their own cards with their horrible drivers, they don't need help from us
[05:36] <TheSheep> deus_: if it freezes even in bios, it's probably a hardware issue
[05:36] <deus_> laptop
[05:36] <enyc> Mikelo: that looks loaded...
[05:36] <deus_> i mean
[05:37] <AK7> yeah, I'm using a laptop too
[05:37] <grasshopper> sladen: i am very concerned !!! Is Microsoft staging a coup d'Etat on Ubuntu?
[05:37] <enyc> Mikelo: does it say anything new on end of 'dmesg
[05:37] <kq> what's the commandline parameter for starting openoffice2 in the background, and making it stay always resident?  the checkbox in options worked for me before, but not since i upgraded to dapper ...
[05:37] <enyc> Mikelo: does it say anything new on end of 'dmesg' ?
[05:37] <sladen> grasshopper: unlikely
[05:37] <grasshopper> sladen: Have they kidnapped Mark Shuttleworth!
[05:37] <raboof_> TheSheep: I do have another session in vt8, but they don't show there either :)
[05:37] <anfangs> ls
[05:37] <Ng> grasshopper: he was definitely still not-kidnapped yesterday ;)
[05:37] <TheSheep> raboof_: are the processes all sleeping?
[05:37] <raboof_> TheSheep: starting new apps works fine there
[05:37] <NoUse> grasshopper they'd go after google first
[05:37] <Cubies> unkidnapped?
[05:38] <Cubies> imkidnappable.
[05:38] <TheSheep> raboof_: maybe try connecting with strace -p to one and see what it does...
[05:38] <grasshopper> Ng:  maybe in the early hrs of the morning they stealthily ambushed Ubuntu HQ
[05:39] <grasshopper> Ok, Guys, so i am reassured that there is nothing sinister going on, yeah?
[05:39] <grasshopper> Ng: did you see him yourself with your own eyes?
[05:39] <Mikelo> enyc, i can't tell if its new or not... u want me to paste its output on a pastebin?
[05:39] <makko> Seveas:
[05:39] <anfangs> q
[05:39] <makko> W: Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-seveas/extras/skype_1.2.0.18-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:39] <makko>   403 Forbidden
[05:39] <Seveas> makko, use a mirror.
[05:40] <raboof_> TheSheep: hmm, strace says "read(4, " and then nothing.
[05:40] <Ng> grasshopper: I shook his hand no less ;o
[05:40] <enyc> Mikelo: you look at it beforue you start loading modeles in the first place ;-)
[05:40] <TheSheep> grasshopper: actually Dapper Drake is a beta version of Vista ;)
[05:40] <enyc> Mikelo: pastbin please... I read
[05:40] <KenSentMe> Does fat32 have a maximum file size?
[05:40] <TheSheep> raboof_: use lsof to see what is descriptor 4 for that process
[05:40] <Mikelo> enyc, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/765399
[05:41] <albertoguejar> hola
[05:41] <NoUse> KenSentMe yup, ~4GB
[05:41] <Ng> KenSentMe: every filesystem does
[05:41] <kq> what's the commandline parameter for starting openoffice2 in the background, and making it stay always resident?  the checkbox in options worked for me before, but not since i upgraded to dapper...
[05:41] <grasshopper> Ng: you lucky man, arrrh...
[05:41] <KenSentMe> NoUse: Ng: damn
[05:41] <javiguejar> hola
[05:41] <StNickSA> Please could someone give me a hand with Samba and Dapper...?
[05:41] <ipfw> anyone in here used the alternative install CD for Dapper ?
[05:41] <cdubya> ok. I'm seriously going nuts now.....libdvdcss is definitely installed and still none of the players I try work
[05:41] <Corey> Hey guys does anyone know of a good multiplayer onine game for linux
[05:41] <jean> cdubya: Try using xine
[05:41] <Corey> thats actually good ?
[05:41] <enyc> Mikelo: bizarre... lots of scsi errors
[05:41] <jean> Corey: Eternal Lands
[05:42] <enyc> Mikelo: I dont see an entire dmesg really
[05:42] <grasshopper> TheSheep: if this is true, the implications are grave. ai grave indeed  :o
[05:42] <cdubya> YES! xine works.
[05:42] <rem_> I can only print trhough gnome and not LPR, since i Upgraded to Dapper...so any application (mozilla, xpdf....) that uses lpr cant print :( is there a known way to solve that .. ?
[05:42] <raboof_> TheSheep: it's a socket - not sure how to get more info
[05:42] <cdubya> thank you
[05:42] <jean> Now install totem-xine
[05:42] <jean> vlc should also work
[05:42] <Mikelo> enyc, wait
[05:42] <|rt|> Savage was pretty good (commercial)
[05:42] <enyc> Mikelo: waiting ;-)
[05:42] <Corey> any other games ?
[05:43] <gizmo_the_great> Corey, Americas Army
[05:43] <Corey> nah i dont like americas army
[05:43] <Corey> any other ?
[05:43] <rem_> ?
[05:43] <jighead> Corey: ut2004, enemy territory
[05:43] <TheSheep> raboof_: probably gconfd
[05:43] <kq> Corey: tremulous
[05:43] <babo> I don't seem to be able to read my cdrom ...
[05:43] <babo> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:43] <Corey> et is bad and ut2004 i havent tried termulous is meidocre not enjoyable thoe
[05:43] <babo> that's from /etc/fstab
[05:43] <Corey> any good moporg ?
[05:43] <Corey> masively multiplayer
[05:43] <NoUse> could you guys take the gaming talkt to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:43] <TheSheep> raboof_: are non-gnome apps working fine?
[05:44] <babo> is it strange that cdrom is of filesystem type /dev/hda ... ?
[05:44] <raboof_> TheSheep: xterm sounds non-gnome to me, and doesn't work :)
[05:44] <Mikelo> enyc, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/765405
[05:44] <gizmo_the_great> Hi. I have installed NFS on two Ubuntu desktops so I can share a folder from one with the other. All seems to have gone OK and I have added Folder1 for sharing on Desktop1. How do I get Desktop2 to see the shared Folder1 on Desktop1? If no reply I won't ask again - just trying to make sure it is read
[05:44] <TheSheep> :(
[05:45] <TheSheep> raboof_: no idea on how to proceed :(
[05:45] <albertoguejar> felipe
[05:45] <javiguejar> hola
[05:45] <kq> what's the commandline parameter for starting openoffice2 in the background, and making it stay always resident?  the checkbox in options worked for me before, but not since i upgraded to dapper ...
[05:45] <kane77> anybody has a problem with azureus?? sometimes I get this warning about azureus not been shutdown tidily and I cant get rid of it... there's a button to hjide it but whent I click it nnothing happens...
[05:45] <raboof_> TheSheep: hum, seems like something timed out, now everything I started suddenly pops up :)
[05:45] <albertoguejar> churasco
[05:45] <enyc> #
[05:45] <enyc> [4294877.150000]  intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 50583 usecs
[05:45] <enyc> #
[05:45] <enyc> [4294877.150000]  intel8x0: clocking to 48000
[05:45] <enyc> hrrm
[05:45] <raboof_> still weird.
[05:45] <cosoc> how do i install kde on ubuntu and be able to pick whether i boot into gnome or kde?
[05:46] <enyc> its loading the intel8x0 AC97 driver ??
[05:46] <albertoguejar> con la polla de frasco
[05:46] <TheSheep> raboof_: using nfs maybe?
[05:46] <javiguejar> corales
[05:46] <NoUse> !tell cosoc about kde
[05:46] <Kwong> hi there, anyone know the package name for J2SE 5.0?
[05:46] <enyc> Mikelo: hrrm im not the expert on that audio revice really
[05:46] <imbrandon> !sun-java5-jre
[05:46] <NoUse> Kwong apt-cache search sun-java5
[05:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, sun-java5-jre is ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal
[05:46] <danfg> in aMule, i can't download the server list, it's set to "http://www.gruk.org/server.met.gz", but all I get is "Failed to load server.met file '/home/daniel/.aMule/server.met.download', unknown format encountered."
[05:46] <Crescendo> How to add an application to boot?
[05:46] <albertoguejar> eres el mas feo del mundo
[05:47] <oneseventeen> cosoc: I could be verry wrong, but I think if you use synaptic to install KDE, you *should* be able to choose it as a session in the options menu on the logon screen
[05:47] <Kwong> NoUse, nothing
[05:47] <gizmo_the_great> imbrandon, how do you guys know that kind of thing? I read a lot about people saying 'use apt-get X Y and Z' but how do they know all the package names?
[05:47] <rem_> lpr: Could not initialize LPP printing system
[05:47] <danfg> !es
[05:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:47] <anfangs> sdf
[05:47] <Mikelo> danfg, put http://ed2k.2x4u.de/1ytaphdu/min/server.met
[05:47] <Mastastealth> Crescendo: I believe you go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions and startup tab
[05:47] <albertoguejar> quieres a la prima de ruben
[05:47] <javiguejar> y  tu el  mas  gilipollas
[05:47] <NoUse> Kwong you need to enable multiverse and universe
[05:47] <NoUse> !tell Kwong about repos
[05:47] <imbrandon> gizmo_the_great: daily use ;)
[05:47] <Mastastealth> or it might be system -> administration, i forget, but "Session" is in one of those ;)
[05:47] <vieirar> I am currently using KDM but would like to switch back to GDM how can I do this in dapper
[05:48] <albertoguejar> y tu el mas cobro
[05:48] <javiguejar> y  tu  ami  prima  coraima
[05:48] <jighead> gizmo_the_great: from Desktop2 mount -t nfs Desktop1:Folder1
[05:48] <gizmo_the_great> imbrandon, I hear ya, but using the example of JRE, surely you only install once or twice then never again for months or years?
[05:48] <cosoc>  is there an option to make kde the defalt enviroment
[05:48] <kq> albertoguejar y javiguejar por favor cortenla de una vez
[05:48] <chavo> vieirar, udo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:48] <Mikelo> enyc, i'll try reloggin
[05:48] <danfg> Mikelo: how can i trust that server list? any other ones out there?
[05:48] <albertoguejar> es mui fea cobron
[05:48] <javiguejar> eres  tonto
[05:48] <chavo> woops sudo*
[05:48] <vieirar> chavo, Thanks
[05:48] <imbrandon> gizmo_the_great: i help in irc alot, thats a common question
[05:48] <chavo> np
[05:48] <danfg> Mikelo: how did you find that link?
[05:48] <t-thing_> Hi. How to get my wireless network card's mac address?
[05:48] <kq> what's the commandline parameter for starting openoffice2 in the background, and making it stay always resident?  the checkbox in options worked for me before, but not since i upgraded to dapper...
[05:48] <albertoguejar> y tu que eres
[05:49] <NoUse> !es
[05:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:49] <Mastastealth> t-thing: iwconfig eth1 ?
[05:49] <Jimmey__> t-thing, ifconfig, I think
[05:49] <albertoguejar> puto
[05:49] <Jimmey__> !es
[05:49] <ashcraft> hi everyone
[05:49] <albertoguejar> cobron
[05:49] <imbrandon> gizmo_the_great: if i dont know the exact pkg name you can always "sudo apt-cache seach <pkg name>"
[05:49] <bSON> is there a separate ubunut developer channel?
[05:49] <albertoguejar> bete de aqui
[05:49] <t-thing_> Jimmey__: albertoguejar it doesn't display it.
[05:49] <imbrandon> bSON: #ubuntu-devel
[05:49] <albertoguejar> feo cabron
[05:49] <grasshopper> hey, what is with the spanish swearing?
[05:49] <javiguejar> cabron  ijo  de  puta
[05:49] <t-thing_> Jimmey__: albertoguejar I mean, it does show other information of the card but not the mac address
[05:49] <oneseventeen> t-thing yeah, it's iwconfig eth1, then it's HWaddr
[05:49] <imbrandon> !es
[05:49] <grasshopper> albertoguejar: stop it
[05:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:50] <javiguejar> maricon
[05:50] <bSON> imbrandon: thanks
[05:50] <danfg> what is with nobody kicking out the spanish duo swearing at each other?
[05:50] <albertoguejar> te faltala h de hijo
[05:50] <grasshopper> javiguejar: what are you doing?
[05:50] <NoUse> !ops
[05:50] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:50] <Mikelo> danfg, i typed server.met in google
[05:50] <lnx^> hmm, why doesn't copy-pasting work between firefox and for example the gnome terminal?
[05:50] <Seveas> NoUse, ?
[05:50] <nalioth> NoUse: yes?
[05:50] <albertoguejar> tu eres hijo de puta
[05:50] <NoUse> Seveas albertoguejar needs dealing with
[05:50] <NoUse> Seveas nalioth thank you
[05:50] <Mastastealth> lnx^: did u close firefox before you pasted?
[05:50] <danfg> Mikelo: ah, ok :) thanks
[05:51] <gizmo_the_great> jighead, I think there's a vlaue missing. It says it should be 'mount -t nfs SOMETHING Desktop1:Folder1
[05:51] <lnx^> Mastastealth: nope. my problem right now is to copypaste TO firefox
[05:51] <idefix_> is stopmotion the package for making animated gifs?
[05:51] <oneseventeen> is running dual monitors hard in Ubuntu?
[05:51] <gizmo_the_great> imbrandon, thanks - i will try to remember that
[05:51] <idefix_> is stopmotion the package for making animated jpgs?
[05:51] <Mastastealth> ok, did u close the terminal before pasting into firefox? or u cant seem to copy anything form it at all?
[05:51] <MKR> Is it normal for nautilus to remain resident (and carve out 30mb of RAM) even when I'm not actualy using it (I haven't loaded it)?
[05:52] <jighead> gizmo_the_great: yes it should be mount -t nfs Desktop1:Folder1 <folder on Desktop2>
[05:52] <idefix_> great we have a semi-gremlin here
[05:52] <gizmo_the_great> jighead, the SOMETHING it refers to as 'dev'?
[05:52] <chavo> MKR, nautilus paints the desktop
[05:52] <MKR> oh
[05:52] <winbond> can someone help me with setting up software raid
[05:52] <lnx^> Mastastealth: I can copy anything between any apps except for mozilla (i.e. thunderbird/firefox)
[05:52] <hmpedersen> After dapper install, how long should first boot last?
[05:52] <MKR> thanks
[05:52] <hmpedersen> take*
[05:53] <Fraeon> Does Ubuntu have anything to do with the humanity Mark Shuttleworth lost when he was hired by Microsoft to be their accountant?
[05:53] <lnx^> Mastastealth: I can also copy-paste between the mozilla apps, but copy-pasting between the mozilla app and the other apps doesn't work
[05:53] <hmpedersen> All I see is a black screen and an led the indicates (very little) hdd activity
[05:53] <eCokeNCod> ubuntu forums are currently offline?
[05:53] <chavo> Fraeon, ubuntu is whatever you want it to be.
[05:53] <eCokeNCod> what the heck is going on ?
[05:53] <chavo> eCokeNCod, yes
[05:53] <nightcoder> eCokeNCod: yes
[05:53] <ubuntugeek> yes
[05:54] <CokeNCode> why does BitchX keep doing that with my nick ?
[05:54] <winbond> can someone help me with setting up software raid
[05:54] <Blazefury> test
[05:54] <MKR> test failed
[05:54] <Bladedge> Guys
[05:54] <hmpedersen> another test
[05:54] <Mikelo> no sound with AC97 realtek help!!!
[05:54] <Bladedge> My Firefox won't update under any circumstances
[05:54] <ciro> hi
[05:54] <rem_> need help with lpr: when I type the complete path /usr/bin/lpr it prints, but when I just type "lpr" it doesnt (/usr/bin is in the PATH) .. ??
[05:55] <Fraeon> chavo, is Ubuntu...zombo?
[05:55] <Bladedge> Can anyone help me with that crap?
[05:55] <Mikelo> enyc, i relogged but no success
[05:55] <rem_> ..since i upgraded from breezy to dapper ..
[05:55] <rem_> anyone ?
[05:55] <chavo> Fraeon, if that's waht you desire, sure.
[05:55] <ciro> I have a hp deskjet 990cxi printer but it doesnt print me under ubuntu. who can help me to fix this problem?
[05:55] <hmpedersen> Mikelo, I never got AC'97 working in any unix system
[05:55] <NoUse> Bladedge upgrade via synaptic?
[05:55] <Bladedge> NoUse, how?
[05:55] <redrumz> !alsa
[05:55] <tristanmike> Bladedge: do you mean to a newer version ?
[05:56] <ubotu> alsa is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[05:56] <winbond> why
[05:56] <redrumz> !asla
[05:56] <Gerbils> argggggggg what have you done to the forums!!!!!!!!
[05:56] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, redrumz
[05:56] <redrumz> lol
[05:56] <NoUse> Bladedge no I'm trying to understandwhat you are trying to do
[05:56] <Mikelo> hmpedersen, it worked out of the box on breezy!!
[05:56] <winbond> can someone help me with setting up software raid
[05:56] <redrumz> ac'97 works nps
[05:56] <Mikelo> hmpedersen, SI7012?
[05:56] <garenasix> any one know how long the english ubuntu forums are goin the be off line ???
[05:56] <Bladedge> tristanmike, yeah, downloaded 1.5.0.4 replaced the old firefox folder by the new one its still the 1.5.0.3
[05:56] <redrumz> something even the amd64bit version can do with surround
[05:56] <rem_> bla bla bla ,.,..
[05:57] <hmpedersen> Mikelo, really? I don't think I knew about ubuntu when I had a soundcard like that.. Prolly can't help you out :(
[05:57] <Bladedge> NoUse, no, I told it to tristanmike
[05:57] <rem_> hello world :P
[05:57] <winbond> !raid
[05:57] <ubotu> it has been said that raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[05:57] <tristanmike> Bladedge:  Ubuntu uses "version freezing" which means the version that comes with the release is the only version you get, unless you manually install a newer version, you just all the security updates for that program, but newer versions require you to do it manually
[05:57] <joseanto> hola
[05:57] <enyc> Mikelo: hrrm im not sure really... its as if the kernel sound driver doesnt work..... or needs to load a different driver... youd have to ask people who know more and/or pasete information like the **entry in 'lspci'** for the sound device to ubuntuforums
[05:57] <Mikelo> redrumz, nps?
[05:57] <Bladedge> tristanmike, so how do I do it manually?
[05:58] <XeruX> How do I set the console charset so that my norwegian chars are useable?
[05:58] <jighead> winbond: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_software_raid is another link since the forums are down
[05:58] <tristanmike> Bladedge: what's wrong with the stock firefox ?
[05:58] <Mikelo> enyc, 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound  Controller (rev a0)
[05:58] <Bladedge> tristanmike, and can we deactivate that version freezing cuz I don't need crap
[05:58] <tristanmike> out of curiosity ?
[05:58] <luc1fersflowers> hello
[05:58] <NoUse> !tell Bladedge about ff1.5
[05:58] <tristanmike> Bladedge: version freezing is how Linux works
[05:58] <Mikelo> redrumz, nps = not possible?
[05:58] <Bladedge> tristanmike, well the Flash Player's not really working as it should
[05:59] <AK7> Random question: Can xchat be run from the install/live CD while the install is going on?
[05:59] <Bladedge> NoUse, thanks
[05:59] <chavo> Bladedge, you can just untar it in your home directory or somewhere you have write permissions, and then make a link to it
[05:59] <chavo> AK7, yes
[05:59] <hmpedersen> I'd love to know what my dapper was actually doing during first boot.. All I have is a black screen and hdd activity.. Haven't changed for 5 minutes..
[05:59] <A2MR> hello
[05:59] <lnx^> in addition, when I try to add a normal .mp3 to rhythmbox, I get the error 'The file is not an audio stream'
[05:59] <AK7> I think it'd be a good idea to make an ubuntu-install channel that that defaults to so we can walk people through the install
[05:59] <AK7> just a random thought
[06:00] <chavo> AK7, I'll walk you thru, click. click .done
[06:00] <_bt> guys im a new install of dapper. when i switch to any tty the font is screwed and the screen blanks for about a second, every couple of seconds
[06:00] <AK7> yeah, I know :)
[06:00] <Terminus> lnx^: you need gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly for mp3 playback.
[06:00] <mnk> hello all - how can i stop camserv being started up automatically when i boot up my machine pls?
[06:00] <troy_s> ubotu, tell lnx^ about mp3
[06:00] <hmpedersen> !tell lnx^ about mp3
[06:00] <lnx^> Terminus: was already installed
[06:01] <lnx^> Terminus: amarok works fine
[06:01] <Terminus> lnx^: hmmm... how about the multiboot variant?
[06:01] <TiG4> clear
[06:01] <troy_s> mnk:  /etc/init.d scripts.
[06:01] <luc1fersflowers> my network card works, it can find the network, i put in the correct wep key, but it won't connect, it just times out.... any ideas?
[06:01] <Terminus> lnx^: multiverse i mean. =D
[06:01] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: what network card?
[06:01] <luc1fersflowers> ipw2915
[06:02] <mnk> yeah troy_s but what do i do though? isn't there a program to run which can let me choose which services i don't want to run at startup?
[06:02] <deepspawn> Anyone here with experience installing the new ubuntu over existing lvms?
[06:02] <lnx^> Terminus: well I'll figure it out, got another ubuntu install to compare with
[06:02] <hmpedersen> deepspawn: I gave up on lvm completely
[06:02] <Terminus> lnx^: okidokie. AFAIK, amarok doesn't use any of the gstreamer stuff, just libxine-extracodecs.
[06:03] <lnx^> okay, thanks
[06:03] <grout> how do i change boot loader options during install of dapper?
[06:03] <lnx^> but has anyone experienced this copy-paste problem between mozilla & other ubuntu apps?
[06:03] <luc1fersflowers> Spec: intell pro-wireless 2915
[06:03] <TiG4> grout: What do you want to do?
[06:03] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: yeap, sorry, can't help you :p
[06:03] <luc1fersflowers> :(
[06:03] <deepspawn> Well I have my  existing LVMs for my Slackware, was trying to do this thing over a new lv but it doesn't seem to let me do it a t all T_T
[06:03] <Spec> i don't actually know what i'm doing ;)
[06:03] <luc1fersflowers> lol
[06:03] <luc1fersflowers> neither do i.
[06:03] <mnk> anyone? isn't there a program to run which can let me choose which services i don't want to run at startup?
[06:04] <lnx^> can't paste anything from the gnome apps to for example firefox
[06:04] <Spec> mnk: camserv
[06:04] <grout> TiG4: i installed ubuntu on my sata drive and restarted and it said error loading operating system
[06:04] <Spec> mnk: update-rc.d camserv remove
[06:04] <grant> anyone help with wireless in 6.06?
[06:04] <Spec> grant: what wireless card?
[06:04] <mnk> thanks Spec  - that's what i was looking for :)
[06:04] <XeruX> How do I change the console charset to make my norwegian letters work ? :p
[06:04] <TiG4> grout: Do you have any IDE drives installed?
[06:04] <grout> it installed the bootloader on the wrong drive
[06:04] <grant> linksys
[06:04] <grout> yea
[06:05] <Spec> mnk: It sounded like you were looking for a graphical tool, of which I know not of :)
[06:05] <mnk> Spec: what does this mean? update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/camserv exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[06:05] <grout> what should i do?
[06:05] <TiG4> grout: In your BIOS what is set as first boot device
[06:05] <Spec> mnk: do -f
[06:05] <TiG4> grout: ?
[06:05] <grout> cd
[06:05] <mnk> Spec: aah :)
[06:05] <Spec> mnk: It'll remove just the symlinks, and it -won't- remove your init.d script
[06:05] <TiG4> grout: Second?
[06:05] <danfg> i don't get it, aMule can't connect to any server
[06:05] <grout> lemme check
[06:05] <grout> hd i think
[06:05] <Spec> mnk: so if you want to start it manually, do: /etc/init.d/camserv start
[06:05] <TiG4> grout: Ok.
[06:05] <grout> what should it be?
[06:05] <judah> grout: man grub-install
[06:05] <luc1fersflowers> grant: i'm in the same boat, what troubles you?
[06:06] <mnk> ok thank u Spec
[06:06] <Spec> np
[06:06] <captain_copyrigh> morning\afternoon\evening, all
 it shows signal as if it sees the card but there is no networks
[06:06] <luc1fersflowers> captain_copyrigh: hola
[06:07] <judah> grout: you'll probably need to make updates to /boot/grub/menu.lst as well.
[06:07] <hmpedersen> Rebooted.. And I'm still not getting anything.. HDD activity is normal, but all I have is a frozen console cursor..
[06:07] <_bt> can anyone help my tty console stop blanking every 5 seconds?
 interesting, my card shows signals and a network but i can't connect, it just times out
[06:07] <luc1fersflowers> does anyone know what the deal is with the forums today?
[06:07] <Spec> grant: iwlist <device name> scanning
[06:07] <max_> Hi
[06:08] <hmpedersen> lucifer, i think they are offline
[06:08] <max_> Is there a possibility to install ubuntu via ssh?
[06:08] <TiG4> max_: No.
[06:08] <TiG4> max_: Why would you want to do that?
[06:08] <max_> TiG4, fuck
[06:08] <TiG4> TiG4: Watch the language.
[06:08] <tristanmike> max_: please watch the language
[06:08] <grant> spec: what is that supposed to output
[06:08] <TiG4> max_: Watch the language,
[06:09] <max_> TiG4, massive graphic problems
[06:09] <Spec> grant: it scans for wireless networks, hopefully it'll output a wireless network :p
[06:09] <TiG4> max_: What's wrong?
[06:09] <Ng> max_: you can do a text-mode install with the alternate CD
 i just did this and i got my wireless network, how do i connect to it via iwconfig?
[06:09] <max_> Ng, i did
[06:09] <grant> no results
[06:09] <hmpedersen> dinne
[06:09] <hmpedersen> r
[06:09] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: iwconfig <device name> essid <ssid name>
[06:09] <captain_copyrigh> just one quick (and hopefully easy question), if you will.... I'm about to go from ubuntu breezy to xubuntu dapper.  Am i correct in believing that ubuntu follows the unix way, in that it stores all user settings in their home directory?  if so - would it be sufficient to tar up the couple of home directories I have, save on some removable media and then do a fresh xubuntu install, and finish off by untarring these home directorie
[06:09] <captain_copyrigh> s, thus preserving all the settings, or will i run into trouble with the new versions of the software conflicting with the old config information?
[06:09] <max_> xserver doesn't come up, framebuffer freezes
[06:10] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: then do iwconfig, and check if your <device name>'s AP has a mac address
[06:10] <max_> i could fix that if i got  minimal system installed (kernel issues, eg)
, Spec: I get nothing
[06:10] <Spec> grant: are you sure you're near a wifi network? :)
[06:10] <grant> two feet away
[06:10] <TiG4> Spec: Lol.
[06:10] <Spec> hmm
[06:10] <shadeofgrey> okay guys im totally confused
[06:10] <captain_copyrigh> i'm pretty confident everything will be okay, but I don't need my girlfriend benig inconvenienced, shes in the middle of exams and has a french desktop with some nice settings to help her with her work and I don't want to degrade the usability at all for her...
[06:11] <TiG4> shadeofgrey: What's wrong
[06:11] <tristanmike> captain_copyrigh: you should be ok for most things, but back up the new /home as well, just in case
[06:11] <grant> spec: in the graphical interface it shows sig.
[06:11] <max_> TiG4, any idea?
[06:11] <shadeofgrey> if i sownload the desktop version of ubuntu shown on the officiual website im actually just downloading the liveCD correct?
[06:11] <Spec> grant: sorry, i don't know what to do from there :p
[06:11] <CokeNCode> can you use your usb memory key as swap ? to speed up your pc ?
[06:11] <redrumz> !ati
[06:11] <ubotu> somebody said ati was http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[06:11] <gnomefreak> shadeofgrey: yes
 it does have a a mac address
[06:11] <TiG4> TiG4: You have not described your issue.
[06:11] <Ng> captain_copyrigh: you could take backups and then just upgrade rather than a fresh install
[06:11] <CokeNCode> that would be faster than using the hard drive wouldn't it ?
[06:11] <TiG4> max_: You have not described your issue.
[06:11] <captain_copyrigh> indeed, thanks tristanmike, anyone else think I might have problems before i do this?
[06:11] <gnomefreak> shadeofgrey: desktop = live alternative =text installer
[06:11] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: dhclient <device name>
[06:11] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: then do ifconfig and check if the <device name> has an IP
[06:11] <girish_> HIii can anyone help me plz....i installed an IDE "openldev" but wen i tried to run it an error says " libgnutls.so.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:11] <girish_> "
[06:12] <captain_copyrigh> Ng, i'd rather appreciate the wellness of a fresh install... i've been tweaking about a little
[06:12] <max_> TiG4, watch above, "xserver doesn't come up, framebuffer freezes"
[06:12] <gnomefreak> captain_copyrigh: backup everything important
 i got an error
[06:12] <captain_copyrigh> I'm also looking forward to the speed of xubuntu, hoping it will be alow faster for me (ye olde p3-450, 320mb ram)
[06:12] <TiG4> max_: Reconfigure xorg.conf
[06:12] <grant> spec: well thanks anyways, you wouldnt know a channel with someone or someone here that might be able to help
[06:12] <max_> TiG4, its on alternate installation...
[06:13] <captain_copyrigh> gnomefreak, does that mean home?  as in, am i correct in thinking all user data and settings are confined to /home?
[06:13] <Spec> grant: hmm, not other than this one, unless you're using ndiswrapper
[06:13] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: what's the err?
[06:13] <TiG4> max_: Have you installed ubuntu yet
[06:13] <gnomefreak> captain_copyrigh: most should be but that depends where she saved everything
[06:13] <eduardo> hello
[06:13] <max_> TiG4, no
[06:13] <Celestar> can I set a static route via DHCP?
[06:13] <grant> spec: nope
[06:13] <ciro> what can I do to print with a hp deskjet 990cxi???????'
[06:13] <girish_> wenever i try to install something i get the message that it cannot find some lib.so
[06:13] <shadeofgrey> alright.  then where the hell do i get the full install of ubuntu?  my winxp installation is FUBARED...  so herwes what i want to do...  all my important files are on a secondary harddisk.  i have my main drive which is currently windows, and a third sata drive running this current ubuntu installation.  i want to download the full latest install CD for ubuntu, toast my windiows and my current ubuntu installation partitions and st
[06:13] <shadeofgrey> art with a frwesh instalkl of ubuntu on my primary drive
[06:13] <luc1fersflowers> spec: i pmed it to you
[06:13] <TiG4> max_: So it wont even boot off the cd
[06:13] <shadeofgrey> so
[06:13] <captain_copyrigh> yes, all her work is there, I'm more concerened about specific settings being kept in an odd location
[06:14] <shadeofgrey> where do i go to get the full install CD for  the most recent version of Ubuntu
[06:14] <jrattner2> QUESTION: Is there any way that I can make all e-mail sent to an e-mail address on my server automatically print on a network printer or to fax it to a number?
[06:14] <mwe> ciro: probably add in the add printer dialog
[06:14] <Ng> shadeofgrey: www.ubuntu.com
[06:14] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: no you didn't :p
[06:14] <girish_> HIii can anyone help me plz....i installed an IDE "openldev" but wen i tried to run it an error says " libgnutls.so.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:14] <girish_> "
[06:14] <max_> TiG4, live cd? no, xserver crashen in course of wrong modules..i have to patch the kernel before
[06:14] <ciro> mwe my printer is not listed.there is the 990c
[06:14] <tristanmike> shadeofgrey: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[06:14] <luc1fersflowers> spec: i clicked on your name and sent it...?
[06:14] <alpa> can anyone suggest any good cd writing s/w??
[06:14] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: try again, i didn't get anything :p
[06:14] <shadeofgrey> that doesnt help me..  all thats offered on the ubuntu site are either server installs or desktop installs which are the liveCD's.
[06:14] <nightcoder> alpa: gnomebaker, bonfire
[06:15] <mwe> ciro: find the recommended driver at linuxprinting.org and choose that one in the dialog
[06:15] <irzadi> alpa : and k3b
[06:15] <tristanmike> shadeofgrey: the "Desktop" does the install off the live session
[06:15] <jrattner2> nalioth, Is there any way that I can make all e-mail sent to an e-mail address on my server automatically print on a network printer or to fax it to a number?
[06:15] <alpa> nightcoder: thanks
[06:15] <TiG4> max_: I don't know man, you are being too vague
[06:15] <Ng> shadeofgrey: the live CD is the installer now, but there is also an alternate CD that just runs the text-mode installer
[06:15] <mwe> ciro: I think most HP printers are well supported
[06:15] <alpa> irzadi: thx.

 maybe pm me?
[06:15] <mwe> ciro: is it a very new model or sth?
[06:15] <ciro> mwe it's not a new model
[06:15] <girish_> HIii can anyone help me plz....i installed an IDE "openldev" but wen i tried to run it an error says " libgnutls.so.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:15] <girish_> "
[06:15] <KenSentMe> Hi, what are the standard options when the ubuntu installer puts a fat32 partition in /etc/fstab? Could someone pastebin a /etc/fstab with mounted fat32 partition please?
[06:16] <tristanmike> ciro: my hp works flawlessly
[06:16] <mwe> ciro: find the recommended driver at linuxprinting.org and choose that one in the dialog
[06:16] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: oh, haha
[06:16] <nalioth> jrattner2: there are gateways for that, but i'm ignorant of how they work
[06:16] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: PMs from unregistered users are blocked by freenode, you should register your nick with freenode
[06:16] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: /msg nickserv help
[06:16] <ciro> mwe I already visited linuxprinting.org but I find nothing 4my printer
 ty
[06:16] <max_> TiG4, forget installation via livecd with xserverinstallation. i _have_ to install in textmode.. and textmode freezes during installation progress. so my idea was to install it via ssh so that no framebuffer is able to crash
[06:16] <shadeofgrey> is it faster to download with bit torrent?
[06:16] <jrattner2> nalioth, what do you mean by gateways?? I'm trying to use it as a method of documenting business e-mail on a server in paper back form
[06:16] <mwe> ciro: did you try the 900c driver?
[06:17] <deepspawn> remove the framebuffer from the boot
[06:17] <KenSentMe> shadeofgrey: doesn't matter much
[06:17] <shadeofgrey> okay
[06:17] <Kwong> is there anyway to view the network traffic in the terminal?
[06:17] <tristanmike> girish_: install libgnutls-dev
[06:17] <deepspawn> iptraf
[06:17] <ciro> mwe, I did but it doesnt print
[06:17] <gnomefreak> anyone know where i can find this package libwxgtk2.5.3?
[06:17] <shadeofgrey> can somebody please talk me through what i need to do here?
[06:17] <TiG4> max_: Is the cd good?
[06:17] <max_> deepspawn, i tried..doesn't work
[06:17] <KenSentMe> shadeofgrey: but when you download with torrent you help others downloading
[06:17] <mwe> ciro: I don't know then
[06:17] <max_> TiG4, i checked twice
[06:17] <nightcoder> Kwong: ntop
[06:17] <CokeNCode> yeh, torrent is better
[06:17] <nalioth> jrattner2: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:17] <Kwong> nightcoder, thax
[06:18] <MarcN> Any recommendations for an inexpensive webcam?
[06:18] <tristanmike> gnomefreak: look's like it's in the universe
 i'm registered
[06:18] <orbin> gnomefreak: have to be that version?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: i coundnt find it in dapper
[06:18] <shadeofgrey> i need to toast my primary partition, and my 3rd partition on m,y sata drive which holds the installation of ubuntu im currently using
[06:18] <gnomefreak> orbin: yes
[06:18] <Spec> err
[06:18] <shadeofgrey> can i do all that from within the ubuntu installer?
[06:18] <tristanmike> gnomefreak: oh, I see, it's in the hoary repos
[06:19] <pm2> Hi - I have an old laptop - 400MHz 586 CPU, 64MB ram that I want to use setup for computer-illiterates to use for basic word-processing, spreadsheet, web browsing.  Would Ubuntu be a good choice here, or should I try to find something lighter-weight?
[06:19] <gnomefreak> shoot i was afrid of that
[06:19] <xubunturr> pm2: you might want to install xubuntu instead
[06:19] <captain_copyrigh> pm2 - i'm about to try xubuntu
[06:19] <mwe> ciro: I found something for you
[06:19] <captain_copyrigh> i have a system that's only a little beefier processor-wise
 i'm now registered
[06:19] <tristanmike> gnomefreak: can't you just grab it from there ?
[06:19] <jowi> hello everyone. i just did a 6.06 server install and directly after that installed ubuntu-desktop. everything work fine except one annoying thing: rightshift-x, ctrl-x, and ctrl-alt-F1 (or any console shortcut) does not work. very wierd. anyone got a possible fix?
[06:19] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: wrong button? ;)
[06:19] <gnomefreak> brb im gonna see if i can pull it from somewhere
[06:19] <ciro> mwe, what?
[06:19] <captain_copyrigh> pm2, you will find things a real pain with that amount of ram though
[06:19] <mwe> ciro: you should use ghostscript and the special hpilj driver
[06:19] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: send me the output of dhclient? :)
[06:20] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: it might have changed names and thats not good :(
[06:20] <pm2> xubunturr, what's that - ubuntu - gnome + xfce4?
[06:20] <ciro> mwe, oh my god !!! what do I gotta do???
[06:20] <xubunturr> pm2: xfce
[06:20] <tristanmike> gnomefreak: ahhh, I see what you mean
sent
[06:20] <max_> TiG4, so, no idea, hum?
[06:20] <tristanmike> gnomefreak: I had the same problem with Cedega and a renamed lib
[06:20] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: oh, sorry
[06:20] <Spec> luc1fersflowers: sudo dhclient <device name>
[06:20] <lnxnwbbos> good morning, anyone willing to help out a newb?
[06:20] <jowi> i want to add that this behaviour is independent of gnome/kde/oroborus/whatever window manager
[06:20] <Spec> lnxnwbbos: nope, the help provided here are for experts only :-/
[06:20] <captain_copyrigh> pm2, another option would be vector linux.  i've recently installed that on something much less powerful with similar ram and it runs, not pleasent but will run abiword and prolly gnomecalc and stuff
[06:21] <Cubies> I like widgets.
[06:21] <hastesaver> gnomefreak, libwxgtk2.6-0 is in universe (but you probably knew that already)
[06:21] <Cubies> I always thought widgets were ping pong balls in beer cans.
[06:21] <pm2> captain_copyrigh, 1) I like your /nick 2) If I could bump the RAM to 128MB, would that make a big difference?
[06:21] <nightcoder> lnxnwbbos: whats your problem ?
[06:21] <jowi> lnxnwbbos: just ask a detailed question :)
[06:21] <mwe> ciro: install hpijs at least
[06:21] <captain_copyrigh> pm2, www.captaincopyright.ca ;)
[06:21] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: yes i did but maybe i can do this hold please ;)
[06:21] <captain_copyrigh> and pm2, yes, it would make the world of difference
[06:21] <mwe> ciro: then read /usr/share/doc/hpijs/*
[06:21] <pm2> captain_copyrigh, yeah, saw that on /. ;-)
[06:22] <rizo> Hi Im having problems with installing ubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <ciro> mwe, can I find hpijs in apt?
[06:22] <rizo> anyone help please?
[06:22] <xubunturr> rizo: what happens?
[06:22] <rizo> i get the following error
[06:22] <lnxnwbbos> ok.  did my first linux install last night on a 1999-vintage dell laptop.  was having display issues so had to run the livecd on safe graphics mode.  after it installed, the maximum resolution available is 1024x768 on a 1400x1200 screen
[06:22] <rizo> E: gaim: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:22] <rizo> E: gaim-dev: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:22] <rizo> E: ubuntu-desktop: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:22] <pm2> captain_copyrigh, if I go with vector linux, will it still be user-friendly enough for computer-illiterates to use?
 no go, i sent the results
[06:23] <lnxnwbbos> so i have 1 inch of black space on all sides of the usable desktop
[06:23] <xubunturr> rizo: seems like gain has a problem
[06:23] <hmpedersen> Still no luck booting dapper..
[06:23] <captain_copyrigh> pm2, basically modern linux is ram hungry. (don't ask me for figures) with small (sub256) you will be swapping to HD a lot, on an old laptop that's going to be a painfully slow process and will kill the user experience, but if you choose a 'light' linux then you'll get away with 128 i reacon
[06:23] <pm2> sounds reasonable
[06:23] <rizo> i tried completely remove and install no fix
[06:23] <hmpedersen> Does dapper require 192mb memory? Or is that only the live cd?
[06:23] <zooounds> hi. Anybode here who know how to disable all the fancy graphics during boot? I think it messes things up for my matrox framebuffer and tv-out
[06:24] <captain_copyrigh> pm2, oh yeah, certainly. esp if you're setting it up. once vector is up and running it's pretty okay to use, just get it running and then remove all the menu items they don't need and and they'll be well happy
[06:24] <Ng> zooounds: remove the "splash" keyword from the menu entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst and you should get a regular text bootup afaik
[06:24] <xubunturr> rizo: have you tried to use software updates? do you have a working desktop?
[06:24] <zooounds> Ng: ah, that easy
[06:24] <captain_copyrigh> try xubuntu and vector and pick your favourite
[06:24] <rizo> yes i have a working desktop
[06:24] <rizo> and software updates work fine
[06:24] <pm2> captain_copyrigh, I see, well, thanks for the advice - I'll look at those
[06:24] <xubunturr> ok then give software update a chance
[06:24] <gnomefreak> thinking i just found it ;)
[06:25] <winbond> ok , i cant setup the software raid , can someone help me
[06:25] <captain_copyrigh> pm2, no problem
[06:25] <inrelief> ugh
[06:25] <mrgreen> can I switch from unbuntu to kubuntu ?
[06:25] <xubunturr> rizo: you mean software update does not cure the problem?
[06:25] <gnomefreak> if not i found something to work on today
 sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[06:25] <gnomefreak> mrgreen: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:25] <kkathman> mrgreen: yes  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:25] <rizo> no.. i get the error when doing the update
[06:25] <nightcoder> mrgreen: install kubuntu-desktop
[06:25] <lnxnwbbos> any ideas jowl or nightcoder?
[06:25] <mrgreen> thanks.....
[06:26] <captain_copyrigh> mrgreen, just to clarify - then you will both after running that command
[06:26] <nightcoder> lnxnwbbos: please, post the specs of your video card ...
[06:26] <rizo> but i can install other software
[06:26] <mrgreen> can I drop gnome or should I run both?
[06:26] <winbond> anyone experienced with software raid???
[06:26] <gilianima> how to see the available languages I can use on my system ?
[06:26] <captain_copyrigh> mrgreen, you're gnome stuff won't disappear
[06:26] <gnomefreak> mrgreen: after its installed choose it fromt he loginscreen under sessions
[06:26] <xubunturr> rizo: ok, it might be a problem with your apt sources
[06:26] <mrgreen> ahhh ok
[06:26] <hastesaver> mrgreen, feel free to use both
[06:26] <rizo> i was thinking that too
[06:26] <Mikelo> si7012 not working on dapper, worked on breezy
[06:26] <meng> i would keep gnome for keeps, just in case
[06:26] <nightcoder> mrgreen: and after that you can remove ubuntu-desktop :)
[06:26] <mrgreen> would rather use openbox lol
[06:26] <xubunturr> rize: do you have the us.* archives?
[06:26] <hmpedersen> I guess I'm just going to have to install breezy and upgrade from that..
[06:26] <rizo> do you want to see my apr sources?
[06:27] <winbond> raid anyone?
[06:27] <rizo> apt*
[06:27] <mrgreen> thanks guys ;-)
[06:27] <xubunturr> rizo: no, just try to change us. to ca.
[06:27] <Mikelo> no sound!!
[06:27] <lnxnwbbos> mobility m4 i believe, don't have the box in front of me at the moment
[06:27] <lnxnwbbos> guess i should try to troubleshoot later
[06:27] <rizo> why CA?
[06:27] <winbond> how can i install from cd where it sais boot/install  but it only boots live, doesnt install
[06:27] <gnomefreak> ;) it worked ha i win gnomefreak 3 ubuntu 0
[06:28] <saj> !avi
[06:28] <hmpedersen> winbond, try clickin the INstall icon
[06:28] <ubotu> avi is, like, Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:28] <xubunturr> rizo: sometimes it worked to me when us was not. nothing special though.
[06:28] <Cubies> !mp3
[06:28] <Red-Sox> iTunes 6.0.4.2 stopped
[06:28] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:28] <rem_> anyone knows why I have to /usr/bin/lpr instead of lpr since I upgraded to dapper .. ?
[06:28] <Cubies> !dll
[06:28] <ubotu> Cubies: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:28] <lnxnwbbos> i guess the immediate question that i have is: is it possible that if the livecd was running in safe graphics mode, did it install itself that way?
[06:28] <rizo> okay
[06:28] <nightcoder> lnxnwbbos: yes
[06:29] <rizo> do you know where i can get the default apt sources for breezy?
[06:29] <hastesaver> rem_, type "type lpr" and see what it shows... /usr/bin should be in your path, but there might be something overriding it
[06:29] <hmpedersen> second dinner is ready :) BBL
[06:29] <meng> avi is also seperated my the divx and the xvid kinds too
[06:29] <Cubies> !esp
[06:29] <ubotu> Cubies: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:29] <NoUse> !tell rizo about repos
[06:29] <Cubies> Errors?
[06:29] <NoUse> !tell Cubies about ubotu
[06:29] <xubunturr> rizo: not really. I guess it has to be on the docs
[06:29] <rem_> /usr/bin is in the path error: lpr: Could not initialize LPP printing system
[06:29] <lnxnwbbos> ok. so, i've seen a fix for this particular graphics card when running in regular mode.  how do i change from safe to regular?
[06:29] <Cubies> !tell NoUse about mp3
[06:29] <dr3wster> Hey, I just upgraded from breezy to dapper, and when I log on I get an error saying that the gnome settings daemon has restarted too many times.  End result is that I don't have any themes and everything looks really ugly.  I've already checked the forums but I saw pretty much nothing, any ideas?
[06:30] <rem_> lp works though ...but not lpr ..
card brand and tyoe?
[06:30] <NoUse> Cubies ?
[06:30] <Cubies> NoUse
[06:30] <Cubies> ?
[06:30] <NoUse> Cubies read the message ubotu sent you, you aren't to play with the bot in the channel
[06:30] <winbond> ill try the lpr thing
[06:31] <winbond> can somone help me with setting up software raid??
[06:31] <grant> I get wireless signal but no networks, any one think they can help?
[06:31] <lnxnwbbos> ati mobility m4
[06:31] <graveson> can anyone help me fix my keybindings.I installed dapper ,but my ctrl-alt-f1 does not work
[06:31] <captain_copyrigh> grant, hold on while i come 'round and install a network for you..
[06:31] <captain_copyrigh> ;)
[06:31] <xubunturr> grant: ifconfig will tell you the name of your device
[06:31] <jholzman> Has anyone been able to install/use Netbackup client on Unbutu?  Veritas said no support available.
[06:31] <Cubies> Will I experience problems install Ubuntu 6.06 64bit version on a SATA II harddrive?
[06:31] <tristanmike> grant: iwconfig for wireless I believe
[06:32] <Cubies> Just downloaded it.
[06:32] <ehaase> i have three linux setups that use evolution for my personal calendar and its kinda annoying syncing them... is there a way to solve this problem?
[06:32] <magician> .esper.net
[06:32] <grant> xubunturr: ya I have made it that far already
 not so sure about that, but you can try apt-get fglrx
[06:32] <Unitg1|EoL|> im on a network which blocks irc ports ( port 80 proxy) does anyone have a proxy server for freenode?
[06:32] <xubunturr> grant: once you now the device name (it might be eth1 or so) iwconfig eth1 essid YOUR_NETWORK_ID
[06:32] <NoUse> Cubies you shouldn't
[06:32] <Cubies> Ok.
[06:32] <captain_copyrigh> ehaase, yeah, you'll need like an exchange server for evolution.. anyone know what it's called as I'd be interested to know too
[06:32] <winbond> anyone?
[06:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell winbond -about raid
[06:33] <grant> it says too few arguments
 will i have to reinstall to get regular graphics back?
[06:33] <cvegas> hola
[06:33] <jholzman> Anyone know about using Veritas Netbackup client?
[06:33] <Cubies> Flaming causes more arguments.
[06:33] <xubunturr> grant: are you missing the network device name?
[06:33] <cvegas> hello
[06:33] <xubunturr> grant: iwconfig eth1 essid MYHOME
[06:33] <captain_copyrigh> jholzman, under linux?
[06:34] <cvegas> my name is carolina
[06:34] <Cubies> Hello, Carolina.
[06:34] <jholzman> Yes, on Unbutu Linux.  I can install and use with Redhat and solaris Captain.
[06:34] <Cubies> My name is Jaba the Hutt.
[06:34] <grant> it did nothing
[06:35] <ehaase> captain_copyrigh: that difficult to setup?
[06:35] <graveson> can anyone help me fix my keybindings.I installed dapper ,but my ctrl-alt-f1 does not work
[06:35] <lnxnwbbos> guess i will try this tonight when i have the box in front of me
[06:35] <xubunturr> grant: but now is iwconfig wihtout params telling you a MAC address?
[06:35] <Seatux__> under Section "Device"
[06:35] <jholzman> Netbackup on Solaris and Redhat Linux is easy if you have the license and software
[06:36] <hastesaver> rem_, if /usr/bin/lpr works and lpr doesn't work, it follows that lpr means something else. Type "type lpr" to see what it means.
[06:36] <Seatux__> Driver      "fglrx  --><lnxnwbbos>
[06:36] <grant> no
[06:36] <cvegas> in really I'm not inglis I'm spanish
[06:36] <xubunturr> grant: then you are not connected to the access point
[06:36] <hastesaver> !es
[06:36] <captain_copyrigh> ehaase, i havn't done it myself. i hope it isn't difficult, from the pov that it's difficult to persuade ms admins to make the switch if that sort of thing is
[06:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:36] <hikenboot> question: besides Edubuntu does any of the ubuntu distros come on a live cd that supports Linux terminal server project?
 run that from the command line?
[06:36] <xubunturr> grant: two possible reasons: wrong setup ... or you are using security
[06:37] <captain_copyrigh> ehaase, as with evolution i would imagine novel are behind the server effort too, so i'm guessing it will be easy and well polished... i hope...
[06:37] <xubunturr> grant: WEP or WPA security maybe?
[06:37] <grant> no no password
[06:38] <xubunturr> grant: is the access point nearby and ON?
[06:38] <grant> yep it was working yesterday with 5.10
[06:38] <xubunturr> grant: are you sure you are using the right ID: please note it IS case sensitive
[06:38] <rizo> i still get the following error E: gaim: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:38] <rizo> E: gaim-dev: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:38] <rizo> E: ubuntu-desktop: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
sry, i live in a nation with crappy DSL = Streamyx
[06:39] <xubunturr> rizo: I do not know what the problem is then. sorry.
[06:39] <rizo> heres the terminal output
[06:39] <grant> xubunturr: ya it doesnt even scan for networks though
[06:39] <rizo> E: gaim: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:39] <rizo> E: gaim-dev: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:39] <rizo> E: ubuntu-desktop: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:39] <captain_copyrigh> grant, yeah, turn off all the security on your AP and see if it works like that, then enable it step by step and configure your card to match
[06:39] <NoUse> rizo never paste in here
[06:39] <janderso> could someone explain the relationship between ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-standard, and ubuntu-minimal? specifically, why they are not simply higherarchically dependent?
basically install the fglrx drivers
[06:39] <captain_copyrigh> grant, you have to have your AP set to broadcast it's SSID
[06:39] <Mikelo> enyc, hey, i type amixer and no output shows is that ok?
[06:39] <grant> ya
[06:39] <Mikelo> enyc, i have two sound cards
[06:39] <grant> and there is not security on my network
[06:39] <captain_copyrigh> grant, otherwise you have to explicitly tell your lappy what the SSID is, and if you get it wrong then it won't work
then open up the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as sudo
[06:39] <xubunturr> grant: have you check the SSID upper/lowercase
[06:39] <dr3wster> "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.  Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly.  The settings Daemon restarted too many times".  Does anyone have any idea what I can do when I get this error?
[06:39] <zombieReagan> hey, does anyone here know if the php5 package has mysqli compiled into it or how I might find out the ./configure options used?
[06:40] <captain_copyrigh> grant, to be sure you could factory-reset your AP
[06:40] <xubunturr> grant: oops, ifconfig device up!!!!
[06:40] <Seatux__> look for the Section "Device"
[06:40] <NoUse> rizo pastebin your sources.list
[06:40] <NoUse> !tel rizo about pastebin
[06:40] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NoUse
[06:40] <xubunturr> grant: maybe your wireless device is not on yet
[06:40] <NoUse> !tell rizo about pastebin
[06:40] <Mikelo> enyc, how do i select my default sound card?
[06:40] <Seatux__> and alter the Driver  name to fglrx
[06:40] <lnxnwbbos> and that should restore the regular graphics mode?
[06:41] <eXoV> Oi, I just installled ubuntu, and nog I get a, GRUB loading stage1.5Read error
i don't really get your definition of regular, but that should give proper resolutions and 3d accelerations
[06:41] <eXoV> any clue what might be causing this ?
[06:42] <eXoV> and how I fix it ?
[06:42] <lnxnwbbos> great, then i'll apply the pre-existing fix.  thanks for helping out an almost totally linux-illiterate newb.
[06:43] <captain_copyrigh> eXoV, you probably did something wrong when you were installing it. did you properly understand all the choices you made?
 go back up first before wrecking a prefect looking basic xorg.conf
[06:43] <eXoV> captain_copyrigh: it was a simple install, wiped the disk
[06:43] <Seatux__> i mean the offending file
[06:43] <eXoV> then a automatic install
[06:43] <eXoV> reinstalling grub didn't fix it either
[06:44] <ehaase> captain_copyrigh: thanks for your time man!
[06:44] <captain_copyrigh> hrm - nl. apologies if i mis-interpreted the 'oi' salutation.
[06:44] <captain_copyrigh> ehaase, no problem!
[06:44] <xubunturr> eXoV: does your HD is recognized by your BIOS? full size?
[06:44] <captain_copyrigh> ehaase, let me know how you get on if this dapper install doesn't break anything! lol
[06:44] <grant_> xubunturr: I am not sure if the device is set up right.
[06:44] <eXoV> xubunturr: it is recognised, let me check the size
[06:44] <grant_> I just plugged it in and it seemed to half work
go see the mobo's manifacturer's site for BIOS updates
[06:45] <xubunturr> grant: do you get a MAC address on the iwconfig after configuring the essid?
 i don't have the machine with me now. i'll  have to apply these commands this evening, probably with some hand-holding then- my command line knowledge is close to nil at this point
[06:45] <grant_> no
[06:45] <eXoV> xubunturr: yes, the full size is listed in the bios
[06:45] <xubunturr> grant: if so you are connected but still one more step to go (DHCP)
[06:46] <xubunturr> eXoV: then it is not the problem I was thinking.
cheat method
[06:46] <eXoV> xubunturr: k
[06:46] <G8trBait> Do newly installed applications automatically get added to the Application's Menu?
[06:46] <xubunturr> grant: what is the name of your device? eth1?
[06:46] <janne> how can I update to dqapper?
[06:46] <janne> *dapper
[06:46] <Seatux__> go open up etc/apt/sources.list and uncheck the universe repos if ya didn't
[06:46] <nightcoder> G8trBait: almost all, yes
[06:46] <gnomefreak> G8trBait: depends on the app
[06:47] <janne> if i have breezy badger now
[06:47] <G8trBait> ok, like nothing from wine would be there right?
[06:47] <Seatux__> then save it and go to Synaptic and let it update
[06:47] <gnomefreak> G8trBait: i dont think so
[06:47] <xubunturr> eVoX: may I suggest to try install once again and chose the first partition for the /
[06:47] <nightcoder> G8trBait: I think not
[06:47] <grant_> xubunturr: wlan0
[06:47] <Seatux__> then search package for fglrx
[06:47] <gnomefreak> G8trBait: wine file.exe ;)
to open system files in nautilus
[06:47] <planetcall> to play mp3 breezy had gstreamer-mad .. what for dapper ?
[06:47] <eXoV> xubunturr: the first partition is /
[06:47] <isluga> ola
[06:48] <xubunturr> grant: ok this is what I would do: ifconfig wlan0 up \ iwconfig wlan0 essid your_id
[06:48] <Seatux__> do tha sudo nautilus in console
[06:48] <nightcoder> isluga: ola
[06:48] <xubunturr> grant: then just iwconfig
[06:48] <eXoV> i'll try to manually reinstall grub
[06:48] <Seatux__> then ya browse through the folder of choice
[06:48] <hmpedersen> !tell planetcall about easyubuntu
[06:48] <isluga> nightcoder:q tal?
[06:48] <xubunturr> eVoX: you may do sudo grub-install
[06:48] <nightcoder> isluga: acho melhor falar em portuges na #ubuntu-br :)
[06:49] <isluga> xubunturr:ola
[06:49] <xubunturr> grant: what do you get in the Mode: ?
[06:49] <xubunturr> isluga: hi
[06:49] <eXoV> xubunturr: now I get a error 16 when I reboot
[06:49] <grant_> xubunturr: managed
 will do.  thank you.
[06:49] <isluga> xubunturr:hello
[06:50] <xubunturr> eVoX: I'm afraid we are not better then
 or if you had the deskbar applet installed, just type the command and it'll launch from there
[06:50] <eXoV> xubunturr: that's a inconsistant filesystem struct
[06:50] <isluga> exov:ola
[06:50] <xubunturr> grant: Do you get the words Access Point in the same line as Mode:Managed?
[06:50] <eXoV> isluga: what ?
[06:50] <ompaul> !test
[06:50] <ubotu> Failed.
[06:50] <isluga> exov:hello
[06:50] <xubunturr> eVoX: is your HD reliable?
[06:50] <graveson> can anyone help me fix my keybindings.I installed dapper ,but my ctrl-alt-f1 does not work
[06:51] <isluga> ubotu:hello
[06:51] <ubotu> que tal
[06:51] <eXoV> xubunturr: brand new, tested it, and it's fine
[06:51] <grant_> xubunturr: ya it says not associated
[06:51] <mlehrer> is there a good DVD9 -> DVD5 converter available on linux these days
[06:51] <mlehrer> or is it still painful as a root canal
[06:51] <captain_copyrigh> with menu support if pos!
[06:51] <xubunturr> grant: you can change channel with iwconfig wlan0 channel 1-13 but I do not think it will make a difference
[06:51] <isluga> ubotu:y t como estas?
[06:51] <ubotu> isluga: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:52] <Mikelo> i think i may have a double sound card conflict, can anybody help?
[06:52] <grant_> xubunturr: I took the network ID off of my router
[06:52] <NoUse> !tell mlehrer about k9copy
[06:52] <xubunturr> eVoX: then I 'll do the reinstall
[06:52] <isluga> ubotu:what?
[06:52] <ubotu> What what, isluga?
[06:52] <captain_copyrigh> mlehrer, last time I set it up i had to use wine and dvdshrink, but that was a year or so ago, i hope to god the situation has improved somewhat!
[06:52] <grant_> xubunturr: so where should I go from here
[06:52] <grant_> ?
[06:52] <xubunturr> grant: please note that it won't associate if the AP is not broadcasting the SSID and the one you type is not exactly matching it
[06:53] <captain_copyrigh> mlehrer, i mean, it should have done seen as all linux users aspire to be dirty criminals ;)
[06:53] <captain_copyrigh> mlehrer, i think I ought to direct you to my website - www.captaincopyright.ca
[06:53] <ompaul> now there ya go
[06:53] <captain_copyrigh> you might learn a thing or two.
[06:53] <Yvonne> ompaul:  ty
[06:53] <ompaul> np
[06:54] <grant_> xubunturr: nope it is all right I pulled the ID off of my router and I also just checked and it is broadcasting
[06:54] <xubunturr> grant: the channel should match the same in your AP setup  (but it will be scanned while trying to associate)
[06:54] <Celestar> for port trunking, do I need a switch that supports it?
[06:54] <zooounds> hi again
[06:54] <xubunturr> grant: if you type just ifconfig? did you get a block of data about wlan0 device?
[06:55] <zooounds> anyone here have a matrox card?
[06:55] <grant_> xubunturr: yes
[06:55] <captain_copyrigh> right, i'm off to install xubuntu, laters all
[06:55] <grant_> xubunturr: like all if the other devices
[06:55] <xubunturr> grant: ok, that means the kernel has the device active
[06:56] <grant_> xubunturr: I know it shows signal strength just no networks
[06:56] <xubunturr> grant: for an open AP just configuring the essid should be enough.
[06:56] <nightcoder> iwconfig wlan0 scan
[06:56] <nightcoder> returns something ?
[06:57] <disinterested_pe> gaim is a joke always messed up
[06:57] <dxdemetriou> how can I use NFS in Dapper?
[06:57] <TimothyP> what's wrong with gaim ?
[06:57] <Boglizk> Gaim rules
[06:57] <fabim> i have a silicon motion  links 3dm in a laptop but i am using an external monitor . i have the silicon package installed , but i can't get a resolution bigger that 640X480
[06:57] <xubunturr> nightcoder: mine gives Error : unrecognised wireless request "scan"
[06:57] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: do you want to be server or client ?
[06:57] <Mikelo> how do i set the default sound card??
[06:57] <nightcoder> iwlist
[06:58] <dxdemetriou> nightcoder, I want to share between 2 pcs
[06:58] <grant_> xubunturr: so where would I go from here
[06:58] <hmpedersen> Mikelo, got the AC'97 working?
[06:58] <disinterested_pe> well when i had windows everyone i knew was in hl:1 now gaim will show 20 some ppl in there and i get some alternate room when i go in there
[06:58] <xubunturr> grant: do as nightcoder suggests iwlist wlan0 ap
[06:58] <highvoltage> hi #ubuntu!
[06:58] <xubunturr> grant: do you get any output lines?
[06:58] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: Go to Places -> Shared Folders
[06:59] <Mikelo> hmpedersen, it was working from the beginning, except that there's a midi device which is viewed as another sound card
[06:59] <highvoltage> i ask you to please look at http://launchpad.net/bugs/44925 and add your comment, i think this should seriously be changed.
[06:59] <Netcad> My Compaq Presario's harddrive is producing a repetative clicking sound and the BIOS is not detecting it.  What could cause this and how do I fix it?
[06:59] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: Install samba AND NFS ...
[06:59] <disinterested_pe> who me highvoltage?
[06:59] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: to avoid problems later :)
[06:59] <Mikelo> hmpedersen, amixer does not show any output, so probably i don't have a default sound card set
[06:59] <grant_> xubunturr: it shows no ap's in range
[06:59] <dxdemetriou> nightcoder, I did that all, but I can't mount the folder
[06:59] <tristanmike> When I installed the Kubuntu desktop from an Ubuntu install, it removed my Ubuntu start up(before logon) to Kubuntu, how do I get Ubuntu back ? I told it to use GDM and it does, but the start up proceedures are with the Kubuntu logo.
[07:00] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: did you tried command line ?
[07:00] <hmpedersen> Mikelo, hmm.. If my laptop would finish up installing and stop imitating the sounds of a dotmatrix printer, I could help you..
[07:00] <xubunturr> grant: then there is no way it can work :-) . is it a laptop?
[07:00] <dxdemetriou> nightcoder, yes. Is there gui?
[07:00] <w0pw0p> hi guys
[07:00] <highvoltage> disinterested_pe: no, i meant the more general #ubuntu :)
[07:00] <nightcoder> sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.0.1:/home/aaa /mnt/nfs_mount_point
[07:00] <grant_> xubunturr: ya
[07:00] <dou213> tristanmike, same problem here...
[07:00] <disinterested_pe> ok
[07:00] <xubunturr> grant: do you have a button to shut wireless down?
[07:00] <theBishop> uh... after installing Ndiswrapper, i reboot and my machine says "Operating System Not Found"
[07:00] <grant_> xubunturr: no
[07:00] <theBishop> does Ndiswrapper mess with the bootloader?
[07:01] <Mikelo> hmpedersen, dont worry, do u know if there's a way to set the default sound card?
[07:01] <xubunturr> grant: do you have windows installed?
[07:01] <dou213> can someone help tristanmike?
[07:01] <dxdemetriou> nightcoder, I am using samba now, but there is a conflict with the gnome's samba and the command line smb
[07:01] <Mikelo> hmpedersen, other than the usual one
[07:01] <grant_> xubunturr: no
[07:01] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: Places -> Shared Folders is the GUI for that :/
[07:01] <earHertz> ubuntu's got this great feature were there si no root accoutn, so to do things as root I have to sudo and then retype my pasword. But what about comands I want to make as root and run in teh background with "&"? H If teh thig's running in the background, how do I give it my password?
[07:01] <xubunturr> grant: did the wireless worked with the livecd?
[07:01] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: install smbfs and libsmbclient
[07:01] <dxdemetriou> nightcoder, for client can I use nautilus?
[07:02] <grant_> xubunturr: it worked with 5.10
[07:02] <hmpedersen> Mikelo, YEah. But I have no idea what it is. Since I have no ubuntu box running (other than the dotmatrix-wannabe)
[07:02] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: yes
[07:02] <sergiol> hello
[07:02] <grant_> xubunturr: I had to force the windows drivers with linuxaunt
[07:02] <Mikelo> hmpedersen, ok
[07:02] <xubunturr> grant: it might be driver issue, what card do you have?
[07:02] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: Nautilus menu :: Go -> Network
[07:02] <sergiol> how can i install the gcc 3.3.5 specific version?
[07:03] <tkrin-> is wine not part of the standar Ubuntu Dapper repositories?
[07:03] <grant_> xubunturr: linksys wpc54g
[07:03] <zipper_> Anyone knows if there is any way to specify which of your connected monitors should be the primary? (The one thats supposed to show the login screen and so on)
[07:03] <MaCa> is it possible to do a server install from a desktop live CD?
[07:03] <grant_> xubunturr: it showed up like it has working drivers, I figured they worked out the issues with wifi drivers.
[07:03] <dou213> how can someone restore the original boot picture of ubuntu after a kubuntu-desktop installation?
[07:04] <Boglizk> Dapper just annoys me.... Why doesn't the mounted harddrives show up when i'm going to pick file(s)?
[07:04] <ramana_> anyone have xgl working on the 82865G cards ?
[07:04] <disinterested_pe> im the proud owner of a friendly iguana
[07:04] <xubunturr> grant: It sounds like a driver problem. I am not familiar with the card. It seems like your card is picking up not signal.
[07:04] <sphivo> dou213: I think you can just uninstall kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[07:05] <dou213> sphivo, thx i'll give it a try
[07:05] <mk18_tr> has 82865G card how muck mb memory?
[07:05] <BetteS> Hi, has anyone else than me experienced some problems after enabling glx, my ubuntu takes ages to load... It gets stuck when it tries to load the window manager it seams..
[07:05] <dou213> tristanmike, u've heard the answer
[07:05] <nightcoder> grant: are you using ndiswrapper ?
[07:05] <grant_> xubunturr: no
[07:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[07:05] <winbond> which partinion needs to be bootable ?
[07:05] <adamant1988> Does anyone know a p2p program that I can use with Dapper?  Amules server list is broken and I can't get another one it seems =(
[07:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice see the new ubuntu version... 8)
[07:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> great job
[07:05] <grant_> nightcoder: sorry no
[07:05] <winbond> which partition needs to have the grub installed?
[07:05] <xubunturr> grant: have you read this? http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Linksys_Wireless-G_WPC54G_PC-Card_c11585.html
[07:05] <nightcoder> grant: You should try it
[07:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> hope is stable enough... 8)
[07:06] <grant_> nightcoder: ya last time i did it bombed out
[07:06] <dxdemetriou> nightcoder, I tried that but only shows the samba and not nfs
[07:06] <honey> hey there, when I run memtest86+ from the grub menu, I can see processor and memory, how can I see these from linux itself?
[07:06] <zooounds> Can anybode help me with my framebuffers?
[07:06] <dou213> adamant1988, FrostWire
[07:06] <grant_> nightcoder: is there an ndiswrapper channel
[07:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> i like knnow some info about my locales, I am having troubles mounting a remote dir in a win2k machine.
[07:06] <adamant1988> dou213: is it in the repos?
[07:06] <sergiol> how can i install the gcc 3.3.5 specific version?
[07:06] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: But using command line I can mount your nfs shares ?
[07:07] <nightcoder> grant: to install ndiswrapper is really simple
[07:07] <dxdemetriou> nightcoder, no
[07:07] <w0pw0p> I have a problem, can any of you help me? I have ubuntu 6.06 Desktop and when i install the OS in a SATA HD it's install without problems but at reboot it after the bios check appears a message saying "Error booting the operative system" and i don't know how solve this, any idea? (i suppose i have to mess with grub but i'm novice and i can't)
[07:07] <dou213> i give u the commands
[07:07] <dou213> no
[07:07] <winbond> which partinion needs to be bootable ?
[07:07] <Aragorn_Guardian> how can I know exactly what locales i have in my kernel, and if damn cp850 is rightly supported
[07:07] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: Have you an error message to send us ?
[07:07] <grant_> nightcoder: apt-get I know
[07:07] <xubunturr> grant: sorry, wrong link
[07:07] <honey> I don't necessarily need to run memtest86+, but is there a similar terminal command that will list the processor type and memory?
[07:07] <nightcoder> grant: use 107 version of ndiswrapper ... not the latest or oldest ones
[07:08] <xubunturr> grant: and the answer is http://antonym.org/node/89
[07:08] <ramana_> memory where ?
[07:08] <zipper_> I've finally got twinview to work (2x dvi output on my nvidia card), however it's the wrong monitor that is "primary" (the one that shows the login screen). Swapping the cables doesnt change this. How do i get the login screen to show on my DFP (viewsonic) instead of my TV (CRT-1) ? My xorg.conf and xorg.0.log is here : http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1744
[07:09] <solten> Hi all, can someone help me with an ubuntu-emacs-latex error: "/bin/sh: latex: command not found" ?
[07:09] <sergiol> i want install gcc 3.3.5 and if  i do apt-get install gcc-3.3 the system asks me for a cdrom of ubuntu version 5.10 that i do not have
[07:09] <grant_> xubunturr: thanks
[07:09] <grant_> xubunturr: Ill do that and get back to you
[07:09] <nightcoder> xubunturr: great
[07:09] <xubunturr> grant: sorry it took that long
[07:09] <honey> ramana, I just want to list the RAM I have on my system, plus be able to tell the type of processor I have
[07:10] <xubunturr> I need coffee, see you guys
[07:10] <pepinito> hi, how do i share a printer with windows machines?
[07:10] <honey> ramana, I want to do this under linux, not under memtest86+ boot option
[07:10] <grant_> xubunturr: no thank you I was just confused cause it looked like it was working, but it wasnt
[07:10] <ramana_> honey
[07:10] <Goshawk_> sergiol: are you connected to internet, right (yes you are :D)
[07:10] <Goshawk_> ?
[07:10] <chavo> honey, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:10] <ramana_> honey: use free to tell you how much memory you have
[07:10] <Goshawk_> sergiol: add internet repositories
[07:10] <ramana_> and how much is used
[07:11] <ramana_> mk18_tr memory where
[07:11] <w0pw0p> ubuntu installed on a sata hd would boot without problems?
[07:11] <grant_> xubunturr: I was figuring it might have just been one setting that needed to be changed. or something real quick with the driver that could be changed.
[07:11] <dxdemetriou> nightcoder, Only said that failed. I am using sudo 192.168.1.10:/home/dxdemetriou/folder /home/media/nfs/
[07:11] <grant_> xubunturr: thanks for the help though
[07:11] <hmpedersen> Ahh.. My install has passed the "dotmatrix-state" and no longer needs the cd :D
[07:11] <candon> ophp_
[07:11] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: what message did you get 'exactly' ?
[07:12] <winbond> which partinion needs to be bootable ?
[07:12] <dxdemetriou> nightcoder, mount to NFS server '192.168.1.10' failed.
[07:12] <candon> ola
[07:12] <nerdzyboy> Hi
[07:13] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: in 192.168.1.10 host, how is your /etc/exports
[07:13] <solten> Hi all, can someone help me with an ubuntu-emacs-latex error: "/bin/sh: latex: command not found" ?
[07:13] <honey> thanks chavo and ramana_
[07:13] <nerdzyboy> Can anyone tell me exactly what is the Alternate install CD?
[07:13] <Frogzoo> !alternate
[07:13] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[07:13] <chavo> nerdzyboy, it's the text mode installer
[07:14] <nerdzyboy> k
[07:14] <pepinito> hello, how can i share a printer?
[07:14] <WINBALL> Is it posible to force .mp3s to be played in xmms ?
[07:14] <dxdemetriou> nightcoder, /home/dxdemetriou/folder   192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw)
[07:14] <nightcoder> WINBALL: Force ?? Just install missing codecs
[07:14] <CarinArr> hey, is anyone using the artwiz fonts in ubuntu?
[07:14] <CarinArr> Had it working on my machine and just did a fresh install of dapper and can't remember how on earth i got them to display
[07:14] <nerdzyboy> and does the server installation of ubuntu have gnome or is it only a console?
[07:15] <Korrosiv> i am having an issue with the kernel on the server version of ubuntu
[07:15] <spikeb> only console
[07:15] <w0pw0p> can anyone help me with a problem? i'm at the edge of suicide !!!
[07:15] <chavo> nerdzyboy, no x or gnome
[07:15] <nerdzyboy> k
[07:15] <sergiol> and how can i know a repository that has the specific package that i want
[07:15] <sergiol> ?
[07:15] <Korrosiv> [4294672.157000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[07:15] <w0pw0p> I have ubuntu 6.06 Desktop and when i install the OS in a SATA HD it's install without problems but at reboot it after the bios check appears a message saying "Error booting the operative system" and i don't know how solve this, any idea? (i suppose i have to mess with grub but i'm novice and i can't)
[07:15] <nerdzyboy> but I can still make a server on a regular install?
[07:15] <winbond> which partinion needs to be bootable ?
[07:16] <Korrosiv> nerdzyboy you can install a graphical enviroment if you want on the server version
[07:16] <chavo> nerdzyboy, sure you just need to install the servers, apach or whatever
[07:16] <sergiol> is it possible to download from a repository only a single time (leave sources.list untouched)
[07:16] <sergiol> ?
[07:16] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: something is missing ... but what ? Did you installed nfs-kernel-server, nfs-common
[07:16] <pepinito> hello, can someone help me to share a printer?
[07:16] <nerdzyboy> k
[07:16] <nightcoder> dxdemetriou: portmap, etc ?
[07:16] <Goshawk_> sergiol: yep, but why?
[07:16] <chavo> or as Korrosiv , said install the server version then add gnome
[07:16] <nerdzyboy> thanks
[07:16] <sergiol> how
[07:16] <sergiol> ?
[07:16] <Korrosiv> or install XFCE
[07:16] <sergiol> for me to downaload gcc-3.3.5
[07:17] <Goshawk_> sergiol: you can modify sources.list install the packages and then edit again sources.list
[07:17] <Korrosiv> something lightweight for a graphical enviroment
[07:17] <WINBALL> nightcoder Why does it choose Movie Player to play .mp3 ?
[07:17] <crimsun> WINBALL: by default Movie Player handles audio and video
[07:17] <Goshawk_> sergiol: you should download by hand gcc-3.3.5 + all the dependant packages
[07:17] <Mortuis> Anyone know where the root commands are logged?
[07:18] <sladen> Mortuis: sudo'ed commands are logged in  /var/log/auth.log
[07:18] <Goshawk_> sergiol: and the dependant packages to download depend from what packages you have installed
[07:18] <sergiol> ok , i did think that it was possible to pass the repository address as a parameter  ofaptt-ge
[07:18] <Goshawk_> hi sladen
[07:18] <WINBALL> crimsun So I can download codecs, and it will use Movie Player (:))
[07:18] <sergiol> apt-get
[07:18] <Mortuis> thanks sladen
[07:18] <Anonycat> I'm trying to get a wireless card to work on a laptop.  ndiswrapper and the driver are installed, but in network-admin the only interface listed is ppp0.  How do I add a wlan0 to the list?
[07:18] <sladen> Mortuis: eg.  grep [s] udo /var/log/auth.log | less -S
[07:18] <sladen> hello Goshawk_
[07:18] <Goshawk_> sergiol: you can modify sources.list from synaptic
[07:18] <nightcoder> WINBALL: well, its default player for everytinh, I think
[07:18] <hmpedersen> Anonycat which card is it?
[07:18] <Goshawk_> sergiol: it's easy
[07:18] <ramana_> anyone did get xgl working with the 82865G ?
[07:19] <amphibian> anyone help a poor soul who's new dapper install locks up after ~30 minutes of non-use?
[07:19] <Anonycat> hmpedersen: Linksys WPC54G, driver is lsbcmnds.sys
[07:19] <dxdemetriou> nightcoder, yes I have that. It's ok and thanks for the help. Up to find what is the problem I will using samba.
[07:19] <hmpedersen> Anonycat, WPC? Just a moment..
[07:19] <Goshawk_> sergiol: add the repository with synaptic, install whatever you want and delete the added repository (even with synaptic) or leave it there
[07:19] <w0pw0p> any of you can read me?
[07:19] <WINBALL> nightcoder Yeah, but It won't play .mp3s
[07:19] <sergiol> everybody is saying that it is easy, but nobody is saying hooow td it
[07:19] <w0pw0p> i have my doubts
[07:19] <WINBALL> Where can I get codecs ? B<
[07:19] <Goshawk_> sergiol: open synaptic
[07:19] <x3m> how can I load the xfce4 that I downloaded
[07:19] <w0pw0p> helo?
[07:19] <x3m> anyone???
[07:19] <graabein> hmmm my 'free' tells me i'm using almost all my memory. i'm running gnome and i have 1 gb
[07:20] <ramana_> anyone
[07:20] <Goshawk_> sergiol: say to me whne you are ready
[07:20] <Pelo> can someone point me to the proceedure to install device drivers for onboard stuff like videocard, sound card network card etc ?
[07:20] <Goshawk_> sergiol: then do settings ---> repositories
[07:20] <sergiol> i did not know that synaptic was  GUI tool
[07:20] <nightcoder> WINBALL: Codecs for gstreamer (multmedia backaend) are in gstreamer-xxx-bad and gstreamer-xxx-ugly packages
[07:20] <Goshawk_> sergiol: now you know :D
[07:21] <hmpedersen> Anonycat, you know which version? there are 5 versions of WPC54G
[07:21] <WINBALL> nightcoder yeah,I found
[07:21] <nightcoder> WINBALL: In Universe or Multiverse, I dont remember right
[07:21] <moparfan90> hello i have a intergrated audio card what takes the input/out/mic ports and turns it into a 5.1 sound card... and i got it woking on windows... is there driver that will do this for linux?   motherboard for more info - > http://uk.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=1919&ProductName=GA-K8VM800M
[07:21] <sergiol> it is shown only 3.3.6 and i want 3.3.5
[07:22] <sergiol> and i do not have root rights in graphical mode
[07:22] <solten> anyone kown the "latex: command not found" error ?
[07:22] <solten> in emacs
[07:22] <Goshawk_> sergiol: add the repository first (you have only the cdrom)
[07:22] <Anonycat> hmpedersen: FCC ID is PKW-WPC54G-2...does that mean version 2?
[07:22] <Jimmey__> I need help getting ET to work with my Intel 855GM Chipset
[07:22] <sergiol> i do not have the cdrom
[07:22] <Anonycat> the model number doesn't have a version number
[07:22] <x3m> anyone knows how can i make xfce4 load
[07:22] <sergiol> i has a list of repositories
[07:22] <Goshawk_> sergiol: in synaptic do: settings ---> repositories
[07:23] <sergiol> i have
[07:23] <Jimmey__> ET only works in part of the screen, and previous fiddling with xorg.conf has only resulted in ET starting, and staying, with a black screen
[07:23] <zipper_> I've finally got twinview to work (2x dvi output on my nvidia card), however it's the wrong monitor that is "primary" (the one that shows the login screen). Swapping the cables doesnt change this. How do i get the login screen to show on my DFP (viewsonic) instead of my TV (CRT-1) ? My xorg.conf and xorg.0.log is here : http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1744
[07:23] <hmpedersen> Anonycat yeah. Although they would usually call it "PKW-WPC54G - Version 2"
[07:23] <sergiol> yes
[07:23] <Goshawk_> sergiol: add internet repositories (click add)
[07:23] <amnezia> hi
[07:23] <campfire> hi
[07:23] <sergiol> i am theryes
[07:23] <sergiol> yes
[07:24] <amnezia> after sharing a folder on dapper, connecting to it from a windows machine asks for a passwork. Anyone had this solved?
[07:24] <sergiol> and now?
[07:24] <Goshawk_> sergiol: be sure that you set multiverse
[07:24] <nightcoder> amnezia: make folder browseable
[07:24] <livevil> does someone knows a program to extract and convert audio cd in mp3 and ogg format?
[07:24] <sergiol> i see a combo with three optioons nly
[07:25] <livevil> know, sorry
[07:25] <spikeb> livevil, sound-juicer
[07:25] <Goshawk_> sergiol:put dapper as distribution and select all teh combo selectors
[07:25] <ninjakttty> can someone tell me how I can exit out of X without restarting my computer?
[07:25] <livevil> spikeb, but it doesn't allow me to convert file in mp3 format, does I have to add this options?
[07:25] <sergiol> one  ofthe repositories gave an error
[07:26] <Jimmey__> ninjakttty: CTRL + ALT + F1
[07:26] <spikeb> livevil, it should if you install the right gstreamer plugin
[07:26] <WINBALL> Great
[07:26] <ninjakttty> no, I actually need to exit out of X, I'm trying to configure my video card, but ubuntu reboots my computer when I try
[07:26] <zooounds> not anyone with an matrox card here?
[07:27] <TimothyP> ninjakttty init 3
[07:27] <Goshawk_> sergiol: which one?
[07:27] <amnezia> browsable doesn't help
[07:27] <TimothyP> or edit  /etc/inittab
[07:27] <livevil> spikeb I imagine I just have to find the right gstreamer myself searching on the wiki
[07:27] <ninjakttty> sweet thanks!
[07:27] <Goshawk_> sergiol: please say my name whne you talk with me so i can see you (i'm in 5 rooms)
[07:28] <sergiol> where can i put dapper as distibution?
[07:28] <spikeb> livevil, yes, i dont remember which one it is
[07:28] <livevil> ok thank'
[07:28] <DShepherd> livevil: what are you trying to play?
[07:28] <william__> hello, what cmd do I need to do after I install Nvidia drivers so I can up my resolution?  dpkg something....
[07:29] <jowi> 6.06 problem: fresh install. keyboard does not functions as it should. no matter which layout that is used. ctrl-alt-F1/F2 etc, rightshift-x, ctrl-x does not work. (everything else work ctrl-alt-backspace, ctrl-c, rightshift-anyotherkey etc)
[07:29] <DShepherd> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:30] <william__> yeah that
[07:30] <william__> thank you DShepherd
[07:30] <DShepherd> william__: your welcome
[07:30] <livevil> dshepard i'm tryng to encode a audio cd in mp3 format
[07:30] <kosnick> hi , in what name is swap mounted to ubuntu? i mean if i need to mount another partition as swap what would its name should be?\
[07:31] <DShepherd> livevil: http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html <-- check outt his page
[07:31] <livevil> dshepherd i'm tryng to encode a audio cd in mp3 format
[07:31] <jowi> kosnick: the swap does not have a mountpoint as such.
[07:31] <spikeb> kosnick, swapon is the command i believe
[07:31] <livevil> thank you thousand
[07:31] <spikeb> kosnick, so swapon /dev/hda987 (as an example)
[07:31] <kosnick> thx you all
[07:31] <DShepherd> livevil: your welcome thousand and one
[07:31] <jowi> kosnick: as spikeb swapon/swapoff should be used
[07:32] <kosnick> spikeb: and then i suppose i should ad it to the /etc/vfstab , right?
[07:32] <jowi> kosnick: be sure to adjust your /etc/fstab swap entry after you done
[07:32] <spikeb> kosnick, yeah
[07:32] <kosnick> jowi : ok its fstab then
[07:33] <Frogzoo> spikeb: mkswap first though
[07:33] <jowi> !swap
[07:33] <kosnick> Frogzoo : mkswap?
[07:33] <ubotu> hmm... swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[07:33] <spikeb> oh yes
[07:34] <spikeb> kosnick, mkswap on the partition first, then swapon
[07:34] <kosnick> jowi : ok .
[07:34] <Frogzoo> kosnick: first you create a partition, then mkswap to create the swapfs, THEN swapon
[07:34] <Leopard> quiz question: when the MD5 of the iso is RIGHT - does it have to be a bad blank disc?
[07:34] <kosnick> frog : thx
[07:34] <hmpedersen> Well.. It won't be long now till I can (hopefully) boot ubuntu again on my laptop..
[07:34] <spikeb> yay
[07:34] <kosnick> does .ICEauthority file has to do with swap?
[07:34] <jowi> Leopard: can also be a bad burn. if it is a cdrw, try to reburn it with a lower speed
[07:34] <spikeb> hmpedersen, booting is good :)
[07:35] <pepinito> hi, if as root I mount a partition, how can i allow all users to read that partition?
[07:35] <Frogzoo> kosnick: nothing - zero - nada
[07:35] <Leopard> i tried to burn on two different pcs... both 24x... what shall i try 12x ?
[07:35] <DShepherd> richiefrich: what's the name of your liar again. penguin something
[07:35] <hmpedersen> spikeb, not getting rid of 64mb memory is good too.. But when it makes the computer crash then it has to survive with only 128mb..
[07:35] <jowi> Leopard: try x4
[07:35] <kosnick> Frogzoo : do you know what .ICEauthority is for? cause i got a prob with and i can't boot , i thought it had to do with swap
[07:36] <Leopard> jowi: THANKS A LOT. i try
[07:36] <spikeb> hmpedersen, yeah
[07:36] <Frogzoo> kosnick: .ICEauthority won't stop you booting, but it will cause you problems running X programs
[07:36] <hmpedersen> It's funny how some defective memory makes a computer act weird in one way, and a defective wlan card makes it act weird in another way.. And the two combined wipes the hdd..
[07:36] <kosnick> Frogzoo : yes thats exactly my prob, is there any way i can fix it?
[07:37] <hmpedersen> or should I say.. fries the hdd..
[07:37] <winbond> which partition should be bootable?
[07:37] <spikeb> heh
[07:37] <spikeb> that's not good at all
[07:37] <Frogzoo> kosnick: delete it & restart X or reboot
[07:37] <sergiol> goshawk: where can i pout dapper as distribution?
[07:37] <campfire> how do i configure my ip?
[07:37] <kosnick> Frogzoo : just delete the file
[07:37] <campfire> change...
[07:37] <sergiol> put
[07:37] <kosnick> ?
[07:37] <Frogzoo> campfire: /etc/network/interfaces
[07:37] <jowi> hmpedersen: that doesn't _sound_ very funny to me, but my sence of humour is a bit off :)
[07:37] <campfire> ok
[07:37] <kosnick> cause reboot didn't work
[07:37] <Frogzoo> kosnick: yup, & restart X
[07:38] <kosnick> Frogzoo : how do i restart X , just reboot?
[07:38] <hmpedersen> spikeb, 4 days ago I was ready to take the laptop and slam it into a wall.. Which wouldn't really have done anything as a thinkpad can easily survive that..
[07:38] <winbond> doesnt anyone know which partition should be bootable????????????
[07:38] <judah> kosnick: ctrl + alt + backspace
[07:38] <Frogzoo> kosnick: logout & 'ctrl alt delete' should do it
[07:38] <spikeb> hmpedersen, haha
[07:38] <Frogzoo> kosnick: logout & 'ctrl alt backspace' should do it
[07:38] <spikeb> hmpedersen, i kno whow that is :)
[07:38] <Scorpmoon> why is firefox's "Check for updates" disabled?
[07:38] <hmpedersen> jowi, it's funny when it's a customers laptop.. but this is my own :(
[07:39] <crimsun> Scorpmoon: because we use a different [security]  update mechanism
[07:39] <jowi> winbond: /dev/hda1 is a good choice for most
[07:39] <deleted> hi, i need some help dealing with dpkg configure -a errors that look pretty serious
[07:39] <hmpedersen> spikeb, My boss wrecked it once and gave it to me. Didn't want to see it again.. I brought it back from the dead..
[07:39] <Scorpmoon> how do I update to 1.5.0.4 then
[07:39] <sergiol> gos hawk: are you there?
[07:39] <hmpedersen> Now I did it again..
[07:39] <kosnick> Frogzoo : i think there are lots (about 3) .ICEauthority files (some of them have some extension more) .  I should delete only the .ICEauthority one
[07:39] <sergiol> gos awk: are you there?
[07:39] <jowi> !firefox1.5
[07:39] <winbond> damn , somone help me pleaseeeeee
[07:39] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:39] <sergiol> goshawk: are you there?
[07:39] <spikeb> hmpedersen, you should name it phoenix
[07:39] <Obst> hi
[07:40] <hmpedersen> spikeb, allready named it Undead
[07:40] <Obst> anyone knows how i can view a windows .hlp (help) file under ubuntu?
[07:40] <winbond> jowi i mean which mount point should be on the bootable partition?
[07:40] <Frogzoo> kosnick: in your user directory? there should one be .ICEauthority - no .ICEanything else
[07:40] <spikeb> hmpedersen, haha
[07:40] <roler> after upgrading to xorg 7.0 on an intel 945GM/950GMA video card, full page terminals and even xchat scrolling is DOG SLOW. Its like the wave... Are there any reports of this yet?
[07:40] <hmpedersen> Ahh.. This is beautiful :) A ubuntu login screen :D
[07:41] <winbond> jowi i mean which mount point should be on the bootable partition?
[07:41] <FunnyLookinHat> roler, make sure you have the right driver being used   ?
[07:41] <kosnick> Frogzoo : if i remember right there another 2 files something like .ICEauthorityblablabla
[07:41] <hmpedersen> Haven't seen that on my laptop in ages :D
[07:41] <AngryElf> what is ubuntu's default runlevel?
[07:41] <jowi> winbond: it does not matter much which has the bootable flag if you use grub to boot with. I have my windows partition as bootable but i never use it.
[07:41] <spikeb> AngryElf, 2
[07:41] <Mortuis> Anyone know how to stop mysql?  I tried sudo /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld stop and I get "sudo: /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: command not found"
[07:41] <Scorpmoon> do you recommend getting the firefox from wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion or using the default ubuntu?
[07:41] <spikeb> Scorpmoon, default
[07:42] <jowi> anyone got a solution to my keyboard problem?
[07:42] <Scorpmoon> but the page says it is slow
[07:42] <AngryElf> Mortuis, next /etc/init.d/mysql
[07:42] <kosnick> jowi : what is your prob?
[07:42] <winbond> jowi: im trying to set up a software raid0 and the grub wont install, t stops at the grub install point
[07:42] <Scorpmoon> i hate options
[07:42] <addict3d> anyone got this mldonkey-server problem ?
[07:42] <roler> FunnyLookinHat, oh ya, it's the right driver
[07:43] <jowi> 6.06 problem. fresh install. keyboard does not functions as it should. no matter which layout that is used. ctrl-alt-F1/F2 etc, rightshift-x, ctrl-x does not work. (everything else work ctrl-alt-backspace, ctrl-c, rightshift-anyotherkey etc)
[07:43] <Mortuis> Thank you AngryElf, that worked.
[07:43] <Frogzoo> kosnick: noafaik...
[07:43] <jowi> winbond: i have never set up raid on linux so i can not help you there i'm afraid
[07:43] <AngryElf> locate is like, awesome
[07:43] <roler> FunnyLookinHat, moving windows around is perfectly fast - and i'm running 1920x1200
[07:43] <kosnick> Frogzoo : thx for your time
[07:43] <jowi> !raid
[07:43] <ubotu> hmm... raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[07:43] <Killaz> how can I make syslog log messages form shorewall to its own file?
[07:43] <william__> When I booted the livecd it picked up my Plantronic Headset but now that I've installed I dunno how to activate it.. any ideas?
[07:43] <Frogzoo> kosnick: yw
[07:43] <sergiol> why the fuck this is asking me for the CDROM?
[07:43] <johnm1019> 1
[07:43] <johnm1019> !cluster
[07:43] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, johnm1019
[07:44] <kosnick> jowi : i don't have yet dapper drake , sorry
[07:44] <sergiol> i have not this version
[07:44] <addict3d> i installed mldonkey-server in dapper.. now i cant remove it
[07:44] <NoUse> !aptcd
[07:44] <ubotu> to turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:", or in synaptic, go to settings > repositories and disable the cdrom repository
[07:44] <usual> I see the alt iso for ubuntu server mentions RAID config, do I need the alt iso to use ubuntu server with a raid controller??
[07:44] <addict3d> can anyone answer me ?
[07:44] <sbartleylinux> After upgrade to Dapper, I am getting gnome-power-manager error about dbus session needing to be started before power manager.  This is only when connecting to the system using FreeNX.  Any ideas?
[07:44] <zipper_> Is there such a thing as a channel and/or site dedicated to the nvidia linux drivers? I've got a somewhat complex issue that i've found no help for anywhere
[07:44] <NoUse> addict3d you need to be more specifc, what error do you get when you try to remove it?
[07:45] <addict3d> NoUse, some invoke-rc.d error
[07:45] <Morrowyn> zipper_, try the nvidia forums
[07:45] <addict3d> i ll pastebin it
[07:45] <NoUse> !tell addict3d about pastebin
[07:45] <NoUse> addict3d pastebin the error
[07:45] <Morrowyn> http://forums.nvidia.com/
[07:45] <roler> I rwould really like to submit a bug report regarding xorg 7.0 scrolling is dog slow, but I don't know what package to report. I guess xserver-xorg?
[07:46] <zipper_> Morrowyn, ah, btw, i never got to thank you for your help. I've got both screens working now, but my TV is the primary screen, and any try of setting the primary screen with "ConnectedMonitor" results in 2 black screens telling me "out of range"
[07:46] <mlehrer> NoUse: k9copy segfaults when i choose the "open" menu option
[07:46] <_absolution_> CRAP!!
[07:46] <Morrowyn> welcome
[07:46] <_absolution_> HOW DO YOU INSTALL THEMES??
[07:46] <jowi> gonna try if the same prob happen in console. bbl
[07:46] <Morrowyn> well, thats indeed a weird thing
[07:46] <NoUse> !caps
[07:46] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[07:46] <winbond> can somone tell me why the grub wont install on raid?
[07:46] <campfire> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards   here are some information on nvidia guide
[07:46] <jowi> tell _absolution_ about themes
[07:46] <addict3d> NoUse, http://pastebin.ca/62989
[07:47] <NoUse> mlehrer I've never used it
[07:47] <_absolution_> i am yelling....
[07:47] <winbond> my wireless sucks , cant chat on irc
[07:47] <_absolution_> i've been trying to install some themes on the comp
[07:47] <NoUse> _absolution_ and its considered rude
[07:47] <winbond> still connected?
[07:47] <Killaz> is it better to use ulogd or to change the syslog?
[07:48] <zipper_> campfire, i'll take a look thanks
[07:48] <addict3d> NoUse, got the url ?
[07:48] <Morrowyn> http://www.nvnews.net/ zipper
[07:48] <NoUse> addict3d yeah
[07:48] <divineomega> winbond, you're coming through loud and clear
[07:48] <Toge> hello
[07:48] <zipper_> Morrowyn, i'm on it
[07:48] <shizz> has anyone built a 2.6 kernel yet?
[07:48] <Morrowyn> aha
[07:48] <addict3d> NoUse, i get it whatever i do ewith apt-get
[07:49] <Morrowyn> gl with that
[07:49] <zipper_> thanks :)
[07:49] <NoUse> addict3d https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mldonkey/+bug/42847
[07:49] <Morrowyn> you could do it like that perhaps
[07:49] <shizz> does anyone have any knowledge regarding the linux kernel?
[07:49] <_absolution_> do I use command lines?
[07:49] <sergiol> why after installing gcc 3.3 ido gcc -v and it gives me command not found
[07:49] <zipper_> shizz, perhaps you could be more specific?
[07:49] <addict3d> NoUse, oh so its a bug ! :(
[07:50] <shizz> sure ...
[07:50] <addict3d> NoUse, and no solutions ?
[07:50] <sergiol> ?
[07:50] <NoUse> addict3d did you read the bug report?
[07:50] <addict3d> NoUse, yeah sorry
[07:50] <zipper_> shizz, i probably wont be able to help you, but some of the others might
[07:50] <addict3d> NoUse, thanx
[07:50] <NoUse> addict3d sure
[07:51] <roler> Okay. Who can I submit a bug report to? Xorg 6.9 was fine, Xorg 7.0 has this problem. Scrolling in full screen mode on an Intel 945GM/950GMA card (1920x1200) is S L O W. But videos are perfectly fast, including DVD's, even GL/3D is fast. But scrolling in full screen mode - ie gnome-terminal or xchat is like doing the wave at a baseball game... What package should I submit a bug for and to where?
[07:51] <kosnick> Frogzoo : just removing .ICEauthority was enough. thx man!
[07:52] <Morrowyn> zipper_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15246  find the #metamode line , check the comment i wrote there
[07:52] <shizz> basically im learning how to create modules for the linux 2.6 kernel. In doing so i need to build the 2.6 kernel.  the book that i am reading doesnt go in to the process in enough depth for me to fully understand. so im looking for some help and/or references in that topic
[07:52] <divineomega> roler, you might want to add it to the ubuntu wiki
[07:52] <Morrowyn> lemme check what mine says now, zipper_
[07:52] <kosnick> anyone knows about kppp setup?
[07:52] <divineomega> and submit a general bug report via the website
[07:52] <NoUse> !tell roler about bug
[07:53] <NoUse> roler start with xserver-xorg
[07:53] <shizz> i just down loading the latest stable kernel release version 2.6.16.20 but now im confused as to what i should do next
[07:53] <shizz> this is new territory for me
[07:53] <zipper_> Morrowyn, hmm... Perhaps i should try doing it that way again, right now i'm running 2 screen sessions at a time, thats the approach that i've had the most success with so far. Oh well, another xorg.conf can't hurt can it? :P
[07:53] <abou> !flash
[07:53] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:54] <william__> Does anyone know if BUMPS is any good?
[07:54] <roler> thanks
[07:54] <sergiol> i have to force
[07:54] <h3sp4wn> shizz: have a look at man make-kpkg (make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom4 --append-to-version=-v1 binary) that will give you 4 debs in /usr/src (headers, image, source, doc(
[07:54] <kosnick> !kppp
[07:54] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kosnick
[07:54] <zipper_> wouldnt it be wise of him to make a 'make menuconfig' first h3sp4wn ?
[07:54] <sergiol> if i do apt-get remove gcc-4.0-base it says me that it will gona remove apt
[07:55] <eXistenZ> Will my ssh keys change if I re-install ubuntu?
[07:55] <sergiol> :(
[07:55] <Morrowyn> i did it like that ages ago, but i run into a weird quirck when i tried to restrict my wacom to just one screen, although this was like almost a year ago
[07:55] <shizz> i dont have a manual entry for that
[07:56] <sergiol> and if i do apt-get install gcc it askas me to install gcc-4.0 and many other 4.o packages
[07:56] <sergiol> :'(
[07:56] <zipper_> Morrowyn, hmm, it never really did feel "right" either. Sigh, starting all over again, here we go once again. But i'll try taking a closer look at your xorg.conf, that might bring me closer to my goal
[07:56] <sergiol> io want to use 3.3
[07:56] <Morrowyn> zipper, mine says:   CRT-0  and AOC(CRT-1)
[07:56] <Administrator_> nalioth, how can I make all mail that is sent to an e-mail address, foward a copy to another e-mail address
[07:56] <Morrowyn> aka, crt-0 being my promary monitor
[07:56] <sergiol> HEEEEELP
[07:57] <nalioth> Administrator_: select bcc and put the address in the blank
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> zipper_: I would expect that would be in the book (If he is reading a book about writing device drivers) I was just telling him the debian specific part of it
[07:57] <KenSentMe> Could anyone pastebin his/her /etc/fstab with fat32 partition mounted?
[07:57] <Administrator_> nalioth, i meant a more "automated" way
[07:57] <shizz> h3sp4wn are you there?
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> chizz: Almost
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> shizz: Yes
[07:57] <zipper_> h3sp4wn, ah yes, ofcourse
[07:57] <shizz> huh
[07:58] <Morrowyn> the stuff comes from the http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/index.html section: Appendix G. Configuring TwinView
[07:58] <shizz> i dont have that man page
[07:58] <Morrowyn> there where i got it from
[07:58] <shizz> do you have any other ideas
[07:58] <zipper_> Morrowyn, hmm.... i think i know what to do now i just... really dont want to =/. Takes too much effort :P. Oh well, this isnt the time for being lazy, off i go
[07:59] <nalioth> Administrator_: um, have all of your emails set to automatically bcc ?
[07:59] <Jemt> Firefox crashes once in a while, which I can live with. But it is quite annonying that I haft to restart my computer every time. When I try to start Firefox again, it says it is already running, or not responding. 'killall firefox' dosn't help - what can I do about it ?
[07:59] <Morrowyn> :)
[07:59] <zipper_> Morrowyn, and yeah, i've tried following that guide earlier, i think i've might done some mistakes back then, cus' it didnt work out too well
[07:59] <Morrowyn> well i fixed it once, read the manual for configging the driver, and be done with it
[07:59] <Administrator_> nalioth, but not sent e-mails, incoming e-mails.  So an e-mail comes in and it is fowarded to another address
[07:59] <Some_Person> How do I set the default internet browser?
[08:00] <spikeb> Some_Person, system ->preferences->preferred applications
[08:00] <Morrowyn> but be glad nvidia gives you opengl on both screens, xinerama still doesnt support that
[08:00] <shizz> also im wondering  about when i build the kernel than what. there has to be some resources online somewhere that cover this process.
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> shizz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto (I think the package you are missing is kernel-package)
[08:00] <zipper_> Morrowyn, guess i'm just retarded when it comes to configuring X, having a really hard time with this, been playing with this forever now
[08:00] <shizz> ok thanks
[08:00] <Morrowyn> configging xorg is easy
[08:01] <nalioth> Administrator_: afaik, you can set up your client to automatically forward things
[08:01] <Morrowyn> zipper_,  paste yours
[08:01] <eric___> I wondered if I could solicit some help with ubuntu 5.10 live on my PPC (iMac G3/233).
[08:01] <zipper_> Morrowyn, compiling a kernel is easy, xorg is pure evil
[08:01] <KenSentMe> Could anyone pastebin his/her /etc/fstab with fat32 partition mounted?
[08:01] <zipper_> Morrowyn, 2 secs....
[08:01] <Administrator_> nalioth, i want to do it on the server side though, not through the client
[08:01] <Morrowyn> :) kernel compiling is fun :)
[08:01] <eric___> I'm trying to install breezy on this PPC machine, but have not succeeded yet.
[08:01] <intelikey> ok in all fairness to the ubuntu team i feel compeled to ask one question.    i have just made a backup of my data files, on a personal work station; is there any logical reason i should not remove dapper and install hoary in it's place ?
[08:01] <shizz> so once i build the kernel, can i then install it on my pc and it will run fine?
[08:01] <Jemt> "Firefox is already running, but not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system."  - Can anyone help me kill Firefox?
[08:01] <zipper_> Morrowyn, here it is, including xorg.0.log : http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1744
[08:01] <Some_Person> I'm trying to install OSS, and I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15248
[08:01] <eric___> Right now I'm trying to install from ubuntu live.
[08:01] <nalioth> Administrator_: you are out of my league now
[08:01] <shizz> i know it will be limited but
[08:01] <eric___> What is the easiest way to do that?
[08:01] <KenSentMe> eric___: why aren't you using dapper drake?
[08:02] <Administrator_> nalioth, no im not dont lie :)
[08:02] <eric___> It seems the OS doesn't want to see the HD.
[08:02] <intelikey> KenSentMe /dev/hda2 /mount/point vfat defaults,umask=0 0 0
[08:02] <Some_Person> Jemt: Restart your computer
[08:02] <eric___> KenSentMe: Dapper has a bug that won't let me launch on PPC.
[08:02] <KenSentMe> intelikey: thanx
[08:02] <Jemt> Some_Person: This is Linux - no way!
[08:02] <ompaul> intelikey, none if that is what you want to do
[08:02] <Some_Person> I'm trying to install OSS, and I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15248
[08:02] <rob_p> Administrator_:  What MTA are you using?   Many MTAs will respond to a .forward file in your home directory.
[08:03] <Some_Person> Jemt: Restarting your computer will kill Firefox.
[08:03] <Jemt> Some_Person: No kidding ;)
[08:03] <eXistenZ> What's a good ftp client that supports file resume?
[08:03] <intelikey> ompaul thank you for responding.
[08:03] <h3sp4wn> eXistenZ: ncftp
[08:03] <Some_Person> I'm trying to install OSS, and I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15248
[08:03] <Jemt> Some_Person: That's not the answer I'm looking for
[08:03] <eric___> KenSentMe: It's a known issue: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/34508
[08:03] <psyklops> Jemt, what is it?
[08:03] <KenSentMe> eric___: ok
[08:03] <eric___> KenSentMe: Look under 'chunk tree'.
[08:03] <Jemt> Some_Person: Repeating your self will only get your self kicked
[08:03] <eric___> KenSentMe: So I'm relegated to breezy for now.
[08:03] <Some_Person> Sorry, Jemt
[08:03] <Jemt> Some_Person: No problem :)
[08:03] <eXistenZ> h3sp4wn, thanks
[08:04] <Jemt> psyklops: The name of the Firefox process so I can kill it
[08:04] <Administrator_> rob_p, im using Postfix and courier imap
[08:04] <psyklops> firefox-bin I believe
[08:04] <eric___> KenSentMe: I'd like to use dapper since it has an installer built into it.
[08:04] <Jemt> psyklops: Ah, great. Trying that :)
[08:04] <hybrid> cler:
[08:04] <rob_p> Administrator_:  Also, if you are using procmail, you can create a .procmailrc file in the user's home directory that can handle it.
[08:04] <shizz> h3sp4wn, ok thanks for your help. this looks like what i will need. have a good day!
[08:04] <h3sp4wn> eXistenZ: It is worth learning to use it properly
[08:04] <psyklops> it could also be mozilla-firefox...
[08:04] <Administrator_> rob_p, do youu think courier will allow me to do this?
[08:04] <Jemt> psyklops: BINGO! Thanks alot, mate. That really helped :)
[08:04] <eric___> KenSentMe: I'm a total Linux noob.  Can I get ubuntu live to format and partition my HD and set up breezy for me?
[08:05] <eXistenZ> psyklops, does it support file resume?
[08:05] <abou> I did sudo apt-get install  flashplugin-nonfree, it says it's installed, I did about:plugins in firefox it doesn't show it installed!
[08:05] <psyklops> does what?
[08:05] <psyklops> oh, firefox, you mean downloads?
[08:05] <Administrator_> rob_p, Im actually using dovecot
[08:05] <Some_Person> www.opensound.com - how to install with BREEZY?
[08:05] <eXistenZ> h3sp4wn, What are the ssh keys used for? do I have to install the ssh package to get them?
[08:05] <eXistenZ> psyklops, I mean ftp file resume
[08:05] <eXistenZ> yeah
[08:05] <Morrowyn> zipper_, whats your tv resolution thing?
[08:05] <psyklops> it tries to, but in my experience it's only succeeded once or twice
[08:05] <yannux> yop ypo
[08:06] <Morrowyn> "1280x720"  ? or the 1024x768?
[08:06] <zipper_> Morrowyn, the modeline thing on "Television"?
[08:06] <zipper_> ooh
[08:06] <yannux> un kdeiste atisien sous dapper , pour un petit  test rapide svp :) ?
[08:06] <zipper_> it SHOULD be 1280x720 but for some reason 1024x768 only works
[08:06] <rob_p> Administrator_:  I don't think courier has anything to do with it.  Do you have postfix configured to use procmail for mail processing?
[08:06] <Morrowyn> k, and the viewsonic is your tft screen right
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> eXistenZ: Where mentions ssh keys ?
[08:06] <zipper_> yes, thats my monitor
[08:06] <psyklops> so, I've got a video issue, my screen starts out scrambled up. I must have the wrong syncs in xorg.conf but I have no idea what they're supposed to be
[08:06] <zipper_> which should run 1280x1024
[08:07] <psyklops> is there a utility to autoconfig it?
[08:07] <Some_Person> can anyone helpme?
[08:07] <zipper_> and it does right now, with that conf
[08:07] <eXistenZ> h3sp4wn, in launchpad I have to put my ssh keys
[08:07] <Some_Person> Why won't anyone help me?
[08:07] <Administrator_> rob_p, honestly I have no idea, I know i have dovecot and postfix...I'm sitting on the server right now and could tell you anything you need to know
[08:07] <psyklops> Some_Person: I assume you want to be acknowledged... I can't help :P
[08:07] <Some_Person> www.opensound.com - how to install with BREEZY?
[08:08] <eric___> Some_Person: I wish I could help, but I can't even install Breezy right now.
[08:08] <livevil> hi, How I can set sound juicer to make him convert in mp3 format my audio files?
[08:08] <psyklops> apt-get install oss?
[08:08] <zipper_> psyklops, i could be wrong, but if the sync is wrong, x wont start at all. Perhaps your problem is somewhere else.
[08:08] <william__> what program should I use for rar,zip and other archive files?
[08:08] <rob_p> Administrator_:  In your /etc/postfix/main.cf file, what is your mailbox_command set to?
[08:08] <Some_Person> No, how do I install that program with Breezy?
[08:08] <psyklops> zipper_: maybe... but in any case, I need some means of figuring out what to change
[08:08] <h3sp4wn> eXistenZ: Thats nothing to do with ftp though - I presume it means dsa your public key but I haven't look at it - I would have though a pgp key more likely
[08:08] <tcp|p> I'm completely new to linux and tried installing ubuntu last night. I looked up my error message of 18 from grub but I have no idea how to make a boot partition at the beginning of the hdd
[08:08] <LjL> william__: zip and rar :)
[08:08] <tcp|p> could anybody point me in the right direction?
[08:08] <Administrator_> rob_p, proc mail!
[08:08] <william__> LjL, no goto app?
[08:08] <psyklops> it worked, and then I did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it changed something
[08:09] <psyklops> I assume it's the refresh rates
[08:09] <LjL> willam: goto?
[08:09] <zipper_> psyklops, you could always try commenting out the sync settings in xorg.conf and let it detect the settings auto if possible.
[08:09] <t-thing> Hi. I've bougth HP nx6110 and I can't get my wireless card working. I've installed drivers with ndiswrapper which says they're ok and hw present. iwconfig eth0 says Broadcom 4318, essid off/any, ap invalid, mode managed. How to proceed?
[08:09] <psyklops> that failed, I tried it
[08:09] <Lukketto> Hi, I have a AMD sempron, in synaptic I see *Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on AMD K7 SMP/UP*; Have I to install only this for my cpu?
[08:09] <eXistenZ> When will vim7 be integrated into the package repos?
[08:09] <william__> yeah as in one app for everything
[08:09] <TheDracle> psyklops, Try loading the live CD, and copy the Xorg.conf it autodetects over your old one.
[08:09] <crimsun> eXistenZ: for edgy, sure
[08:09] <zooounds> anyone here that can hekp me with matrox and directfb?
[08:09] <zipper_> psyklops, i'm out of clues then, sorry =/
[08:10] <psyklops> TheDracle: by default the live-CD also messed my screen up
[08:10] <rob_p> Administrator_:  Ok, so postfix is configured to use procmail for mail processing/delivery (I think that's the default).  In that case, you should be able to create a procmail recipie in the user's home directory to handle mail forwarding.
[08:10] <me2win> Lukketto: im sorry... so sorry to hear you have a sempron :P
[08:10] <TheDracle> psyklops, Ohhh.. Lol.
[08:10] <TheDracle> psyklops, Get a new video card.
[08:10] <LjL> william__: well yeah sure, there's Ark under KDE, under Gnome i don't quite remember, but i'm sure there's one installed by default...
[08:10] <psyklops> TheDracle: I told it to go safe video mode
[08:10] <eXistenZ> crimsun, only for edgy? do I have to wait like a year or so to get vim7?
[08:10] <psyklops> you mean newer than a GF 6600?
[08:10] <rob_p> Administrator_:  This works out nicely because it's on a per user basis.
[08:10] <psyklops> :P
[08:10] <eXistenZ> crimsun, until then they'll be maybe vim8
[08:10] <TheDracle> psyklops, Older :p But new as in a replacement.
[08:10] <eXistenZ> crimsun, That's what I really hate about linux, one doesn't get the latest software.
[08:10] <TheDracle> psyklops, What're you going to be doing with that card anyways?
[08:10] <Xahur-No1> Is anyone using my nick? I've attempting to take it back, but it's still in use
[08:10] <Administrator_> rob_p, how do i go about setting it up to foward all messages in the inbox to another address aswell
[08:10] <crimsun> eXistenZ: it may be backported to dapper-backports
[08:10] <psyklops> nothanks... my hardware is fine, it's the new software that's messed up
[08:10] <LjL> william__: file roller, it's caleld. should be installed
[08:11] <TheDracle> psyklops, The new software?
[08:11] <psyklops> aka ubuntu :P
[08:11] <crimsun> eXistenZ: latest != stable
[08:11] <TheDracle> psyklops, NVidia provides specific drivers for their various video cards on linux.
[08:11] <crimsun> eXistenZ: remember we have to support this stuff for three years at least
[08:11] <eXistenZ> crimsun, vim7 isn't stable?
[08:11] <psyklops> oh yeah... I was in the middle of trying to get nvidia's drivers installed
[08:11] <eXistenZ> crimsun, why for 3 years at least?
[08:11] <william__> cool, thanks LjL
[08:11] <psyklops> I killed gdm and my system "froze" (but it still responded with beeps to keyboard input)
[08:11] <rob_p> Administrator_:  That would have to be done with some post processing app.  The procmail thing works with incoming mail, not mail that has already been delivered.
[08:12] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ, it wasnt stable before dappers freeze
[08:12] <LjL> can anybody confirm that hibernation/sleep don't work with the nvidia driver?
[08:12] <sergiol> how can i force that when i apt-get install gcc it is not 4.0?
[08:12] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, why they call it stable?
[08:12] <LjL> sergiol: install gcc-x.x instead
[08:12] <crimsun> eXistenZ: I didn't say vim 7 isn't stable. I'm saying that immediately importing the latest and greatest doesn't mean the software is any more stable.
[08:12] <psyklops> apt-cache search gcc, install one of the versioned ones
[08:12] <TheDracle> psyklops, How exactly did you go about installing it?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> Sergi0_, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[08:12] <mirak> how to have X inside a chroot ?
[08:12] <psyklops> TheDracle: I haven't yet
[08:12] <sergiol> yes i already did that
[08:12] <mirak> X acces I mean
[08:12] <sergiol> but gcc
[08:13] <rob_p> Administrator_:  Google for, "procmail recipies" and you'll get tons of examples and howto's, etc.
[08:13] <TheDracle> psyklops, You might want to try installing the driver without gdm running.
[08:13] <eXistenZ> crimsun, Why cannot you add vim7 to the repos just after dapper is released?
[08:13] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ, dapper is stable  (means they wont be adding anything that will hurt the stablility
[08:13] <Administrator_> rob_p, thanks alot
[08:13] <psyklops> TheDracle: I just said I killed gdm and my system froze
[08:13] <sergiol>  /usr/bin/gcc: command not found
[08:13] <LjL> sergiol: then type "export CC=gcc-3.4" (or whatever version) before compiling stuff. also "export CXX=gcc-3.4" if you need to compile c++
[08:13] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, But vim7 is called "stable" in the websites
[08:13] <psyklops> I'll try to kill it again, this'll be fun....
[08:13] <crimsun> eXistenZ: because the archive is frozen. Both policy-wise and technically, it is impossible.
[08:13] <sergiol> makees mthink that there are two separtate packages
[08:13] <hmpedersen^> Can an op kick (without ban) my nick so I can take it back? It's a ghost..
[08:13] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ, thats fine but it was not stable at the time of dappers freezy
[08:13] <LjL> sergiol: that's because it's installed under /usr/bin/gcc-x.x rather than just /usr/bin/gcc
[08:13] <crimsun> hmpedersen^: /msg nickserv help ghost
[08:13] <livevil> How can I set sound juicer to make him convert in mp3 format my audio files?
[08:14] <johnm1019> has anyone here built a cluster of boxes using ubuntu for apache or GC tasks?
[08:14] <amnezia> hmpedersen:  no it needs to disconnect from the server
[08:14] <rob_p> Administrator_:  As a side note, Postfix does honor the .forward file so that can be used as well.  It's not as "feature rich" but it is much simpler.
[08:14] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[08:14] <amnezia> hmpedersen:  just wait a few minutes
[08:14] <hmpedersen^> ahh.. thanks crimsun :)
[08:14] <Morrowyn> zipper_,   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15250   try this one, just boot into recovery/console mode and startx, see if it works, i might have syntaxis errors, but i hope not
[08:14] <eXistenZ> crimsun, Is there some policy that prevents developers from adding new version of programs after a version is released?
[08:14] <Morrowyn> let me know if this works
[08:14] <rob_p> Administrator_:  Anyway, good luck with it.
[08:14] <slimz> hi has anyone setup their ubuntu box on a tv, and only a tv?
[08:14] <Administrator_> rob_p, which is the simpler method for just fowarding a single persons incoming mail
[08:14] <zipper_> Morrowyn, thanks a lot, i'll try it out
[08:15] <crimsun> eXistenZ: yes. The archive is frozen. And as Matt and I have both answered you, it may go into dapper-backports.
[08:15] <TheDracle> psyklops, http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6060&sid=7a39bd7585f9f09e97dcc75c9e75f9f2
[08:15] <shizz> h3sp4wn - do you know of any other online sources that provide information on building linux kernels?
[08:15] <TheDracle> psyklops, Start up in single user mode, and disable gdm.
[08:15] <eXistenZ> crimsun, I'm just trying to understand the reason, that's why.
[08:15] <rob_p> Administrator_:  Unless you are trying to route mail through some other processes (such as virus scanners, spam filters, etc.) then I'd just use the .forward file in the user's home dir.
[08:15] <Morrowyn> i dont know , the modelines on your tv setup, hopefully you dont need it
[08:15] <psyklops> TheDracle: It seems to have not crashed this time
[08:16] <zipper_> Morrowyn, in "ConnectedMonitor" it says DFP, TV, but my TV is detected as "CRT-0"... Should i change it to CRT, or is TV fine?
[08:16] <TheDracle> psyklops, Okay. Did you see this forum?
[08:16] <Administrator_> rob_p, where can i find information on how to set up this .foward file
[08:16] <eXistenZ> crimsun, Did that happen also with ff 1.5 in breezy?
[08:16] <crimsun> eXistenZ: by "frozen" it's meant that the state of it cannot be changed. It is fixed. Think of a finished product. You can't change a finished product; you can add updates.
[08:16] <paul_> In everyone opinion which is the best programming editor?
[08:16] <pere_> I am making incoming message filters in Evolution but they have no effect. Is this a know problem?
[08:16] <TheDracle> psyklops, Apparently you're not the only person who has had these problems.
[08:16] <TheDracle> psyklops, I think if you install the right nvidia kernel, and the right driver--- things might improve.
[08:16] <crimsun> eXistenZ: yes.
[08:16] <Morrowyn> oh wait, change that to CRT
[08:16] <lilbit> why can I not find webmin on the repositories?
[08:16] <Toge> I need and .ace descompressor, what can I get?
[08:16] <lilbit> is anyone here running webmin on Dapper?
[08:16] <Morrowyn> you need TV, if the card didnt detect the tv
[08:16] <eXistenZ> crimsun, That is not in favor of users though.
[08:16] <gnomefreak> lilbit, webmin is no longer supported by ubuntu
[08:17] <rob_p> Administrator_:  It's pretty simple.  In the user's home directory, just create a file named, ".forward" (with the dot in front of it) that contains the address to be forwarded to and it should work.
[08:17] <eXistenZ> crimsun, ff 1.5 was way faster than 1.0.3, and updating it would be much better.
[08:17] <Morrowyn> soz
[08:17] <lilbit> gnomefreak, is there a supported alternative?
[08:17] <crimsun> eXistenZ: it also introduced a ton of bugs
[08:17] <Administrator_> rob_p, damn simple! great thanks alot
[08:17] <william__> anyone else notice after installing Nvidia drivers the login screens text is sized very strangely?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> lilbit, i dont know but as of dapper its not gonna be in repos anymore
[08:18] <lilbit> gnomefreak, do you know why?  are there problems with it?
[08:18] <rob_p> Administrator_:  ...although I haven't tried it on the default Postfix/procmail install on Ubuntu...  <--- disclaimer   :-)
[08:18] <Administrator_> hehe
[08:18] <eXistenZ> crimsun, every program has bugs. Even many packages which are now in dapper have bugs.
[08:18] <gavagai> what is the risk of leaving my ssh key passphrase empty?  is it just that if someone gains access to my account, they can login to my accounts on other machines?  or does it also cause other vulnerabilities?
[08:18] <gnomefreak> lilbit, not sure why
[08:19] <rob_p> Administrator_:  Anyway, gotta split for a bit... lunchtime!
[08:20] <selaiah> Can someone recommend a good FTP Client with  a GUI?
[08:20] <psyklops> :-/
[08:20] <paul_> lunchtime. yeah:):)
[08:20] <gnomefreak> selaiah, gftp
[08:20] <sas171> is it possible to write unicode characters in screem?
[08:20] <psyklops> the NVIDIA installer says I don't have the right CC
[08:20] <Krpano> there is any decent DOCK application around, except gdesklet ?
[08:20] <Some_Person> No C compiler \(gcc or cc\) installed - cannot continue.
[08:20] <selaiah> thank you gnomefreak
[08:20] <lilbit> is there a gui for samba?
[08:20] <gnomefreak> selaiah, yw
[08:20] <Some_Person> No sndshield module available.
[08:20] <Some_Person> OSS/Linux kernel module not available. Cannot continue.
[08:20] <Some_Person> how to fix/
[08:20] <crimsun> eXistenZ: yes, but for firefox and that Ubuntu release, only security fixes are applied.
[08:20] <gnomefreak> Some_Person, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:21] <Morrowyn> psyklops, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4   && export CC=gcc-3.4
[08:21] <crimsun> eXistenZ: this policy has been argued to death for pre-Dapper and is most unlikely to change. Dapper is another story altogether.
[08:21] <jighead> lilbit: there is swat, a web app for configuring a server, and nautilus will do samba client browsing
[08:22] <pere_> Anybody getting message filters to work in Evolution
[08:22] <pere_> ?
[08:22] <hastesaver> crimsun, btw, will Ubuntu update ff from 1.5.0.3 to 1.5.0.4 (is it a security update? I don't know...)
[08:22] <init_6> I'm having a pretty major freezing up problem.  More info can be cound here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190909.  I can also provide a syslog if needed.  I can't figure it out. :(
[08:23] <paul_> exit
[08:23] <abou> !firefox
[08:23] <Some_Person> Reading package lists... Done
[08:23] <Some_Person> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:23] <Some_Person> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[08:23] <Some_Person> x
[08:23] <ikki> !hoary
[08:23] <ubotu> methinks hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[08:23] <gnomefreak> Some_Person, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please
[08:24] <Some_Person> ok
[08:24] <VUlrick> Finally managed to get Dapper Drake downloaded and set up. Nice.
[08:24] <gnomefreak> brb
[08:24] <shizz> hh3sp4wn - if i wanted to make my own system from scratch with the newest release of kernel 2.6, how would i know what components/modules are already included? and what components/modules are needed?
[08:25] <crimsun> hastesaver: yes, it's being addressed for dapper-security
[08:25] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15252H
[08:26] <lilbit> jighead, thanks
[08:26] <velusip> I can't believe a new ubuntu just came out. I just finished configuring Breezy Badger.
[08:26] <exhale> lmao... your slow.
[08:26] <danilo_> that's true..
[08:26] <acke> Hey guys i have a update software problem as shown here
[08:26] <acke> http://rafb.net/paste/results/mu0pPp41.html
[08:27] <danilo_> I just installed breezy
[08:27] <danilo_> and dapper is out...
[08:27] <velusip> Hehe, I just recently escaped the evil clutches of Slack.
[08:27] <pere_> Trying once again..:) The message filters I am making in Evolutions just don't work. Any ideas?
[08:27] <exhale> get on with the times ;)
[08:27] <hmpedersen^> spikeb, you know what my laptop is?
[08:27] <acke> its seems to be some issues with the links in the config file to update software
[08:27] <acke> http://rafb.net/paste/results/mu0pPp41.html
[08:27] <corpsicle> whats "libz" ?
[08:28] <corpsicle> and what would it be called when searching in the package manager ?
[08:28] <Some_Person> gnomefreak?
[08:28] <trappist> aka zlib aka libzlib
[08:28] <Drakonik> Urgh.
[08:28] <corpsicle> aha
[08:28] <Drakonik> I can't access anything other than Google on Dapper Drake.
[08:28] <Drakonik> Any ideas?
[08:28] <Some_Person> hello?
[08:28] <pizux> can i use mepis on a 233mhz pentium 2 with 64 m? with x?
[08:29] <danilo_> maybe firewall is up by default
[08:29] <danilo_> ?
[08:29] <hastesaver> Drakonik, that's really weird. Maybe you can't access google either, and it's only showing a cached version :)
[08:29] <danilo_> don't know for sure..
[08:29] <velusip> corpsicle << apt-cache search <keyword>
[08:29] <Drakonik> hastesaver: I don't think so.
[08:29] <hastesaver> Drakonik, what happens when you search for something in Google?
[08:29] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15252H - /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:29] <Drakonik> hastesaver: I get results.
[08:29] <proxi> #ubuntu-mx
[08:29] <Drakonik> hastesaver: But when I click the links, I get a blank page.
[08:30] <danilo_> and whats the error when u dont see the page expected..?
[08:30] <Drakonik> Not a 'cannot connect to server' error page.
[08:30] <zipper_> Morrowyn, i tried changing CRT-1 to CRT-0 and so forth, but i still get an error using the xorg.conf you just made : Parse error on line 126 of section Device in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf - "1280x720" is not a valid keyword in this section.
[08:30] <Drakonik> I just get an about:blank page
[08:30] <danilo_> mmm...
[08:30] <zipper_> Morrowyn, tried replacing it with "800x600" instead, but no luck. Still get the same kind of error
[08:31] <danilo_> weird..
[08:31] <inrelief> Drakonik, can you ping other servers?
[08:31] <gnomefreak> ok Some_Person give me a min
[08:31] <amortvigil> #kubuntu
[08:31] <danilo_> proxy configured?
[08:31] <Drakonik> Only Google.
[08:31] <Drakonik> No proxy.
[08:31] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> Gentlemen, I need help.. Anyone willing to do that??
[08:31] <danilo_> or is it out of the box?
[08:31] <velusip> pizux << I wouldn't recommend using a modern window manager on your laptop. Perhaps look into Blackbox. Runs great on just about anything (ELKS aside)
[08:31] <inrelief> weeiird
[08:31] <shiv> i need a bit of a help
[08:31] <Drakonik> Out router connects directly to Earhtlinks' servers.
[08:31] <tcp|p> I'm completely new to linux and tried installing ubuntu last night. I looked up my error message of 18 from grub but I have no idea how to make a boot partition at the beginning of the hdd
[08:31] <tcp|p> could anybody point me in the right direction?
[08:31] <Drakonik> Or to a local office which connects directly.
[08:31] <Morrowyn>  Option                "MetaModes" "DFP-0: 1280x1024, CRT-1: "1280x720" change to  Option                "MetaModes" "DFP-0: 1280x1024, CRT-1: 1280x720"
[08:31] <amortvigil> hey can anybody tell me how to upgrade too ubuntu
[08:32] <shiv> i've recently installed ubuntu but i can't watch anu movies or listen to music on it
[08:32] <exhale> apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:32] <Morrowyn> zipper_, can you paste the error?
[08:32] <exhale> !media
[08:32] <Drakonik> shiv: What format are they?
[08:32] <ubotu> methinks media is TP
[08:32] <gnomefreak> Some_Person, take the # away from the deb http line than run sudo apt-get update
[08:32] <shiv> what could be the problem ?
[08:32] <amortvigil>  hey can anybody tell me how to upgrade too ubuntu 6.06 sorry numlock was off
[08:32] <Morrowyn> and also paste the xorg.log
[08:32] <velusip> tcp|p << Are you well versed in partitioning your drive?
[08:32] <Some_Person> ok
[08:32] <gnomefreak> Some_Person, its on line 018 in pastebin
[08:32] <tcp|p> no
[08:32] <zipper_> Morrowyn, sure thing, here it is : http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1745
[08:33] <amortvigil>  hey can anybody tell me how to upgrade too ubuntu
[08:33] <tcp|p> i ran the installer and choose the automatic option
[08:33] <Krpano> can someone help me !!!
[08:33] <fr500> hello
[08:33] <gnomefreak> Some_Person, also take the x away from bottom if its in your list
[08:33] <abou> in  FirefoxNewVersion they say To get the flash plugin working properly you may have to add "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to the firefox launching script, Question, what's the launching script
[08:33] <_jason> amortvigil: what are you using now?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> i see it on line 038 in pastebin Some_Person
[08:33] <fr500> is beagle working for any of you?
[08:33] <Morrowyn> zipper_,  make that change i just paste in channel,   Option                "MetaModes" "DFP-0: 1280x1024, CRT-1: 1280x720"
[08:33] <mrgreen> like I want to remove kubuntu & ubuntu & just run xubuntu
[08:33] <_jason> Krpano: what problem are you having?
[08:33] <hastesaver> shiv, what version? Breezy or Dapper?
[08:33] <mrgreen> What login manager shold I use?
[08:33] <kbrosnan> abou, likely firefox.sh
[08:33] <winbond> can someone help me out with RAID0??
[08:33] <zipper_> Morrowyn, whats the change? You just removed the extra whitespaces?
[08:33] <kimo> Hi, do u know of any un-official kernels for ubuntu that has swsusp2 (perhaps CK) I don't wanna compile my own
[08:34] <danilo_> anybody can help me on a sound card not detected?
[08:34] <abou> kbrosnan, where do we find it?
[08:34] <amortvigil> well i have downloaded it a few monts ago burned it on a cd , but i installed it on my computer today
[08:34] <shiv> Dapper
[08:34] <fr500> it not indexing anything for me
[08:34] <graveson> can anyone help me fix my keybindings.I installed dapper ,but my ctrl-alt-f1 does not work
[08:34] <kimo> !ask
[08:34] <crimsun> kimo: no, we ship one kernel.
[08:34] <Krpano> i installed VMware using Synaptic....and if i try to run it, it simply says "starting VMware" in the taskbar and it will close..without any warning.
[08:34] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:34] <Morrowyn> i had a " too much
[08:34] <crimsun> danilo_: what sound card?
[08:34] <Morrowyn> the "1280  one
[08:34] <shiv> the video is .dat and the music is .mp3
[08:34] <hastesaver> shiv, can you play the 'Example content' given? ;)
[08:34] <danilo_> that is the problem?
[08:34] <kbrosnan> abou, i think /usr/lib/firefox
[08:34] <kimo> crimsun: which is why I said (un-official) :)
[08:34] <lilbit> what command do i run to see what my default gcc version is?
[08:34] <hastesaver> !tell shiv about restricted
[08:34] <Drakonik> shiv: By default, I don't think those are supported.
[08:34] <shiv> never seen any example content :(
[08:34] <danilo_> if I run the lspci
[08:34] <Krpano> how can i fix the problem if it wont give me any warning...:(
[08:34] <sharpfurniture> im having issues
[08:34] <danilo_> cannot identify
[08:34] <mrgreen> !xubuntu
[08:34] <ubotu> xubuntu is probably Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[08:34] <lilbit> I tried gcc -v and says not a valid command
[08:34] <Morrowyn> but dont make changes to the DFP-0 and CRT-1 one, since you dont have a CRT-0 screen
[08:35] <winbond> can someone help me out with RAID0??
[08:35] <hastesaver> shiv, see the link ubotu sent you. And if you find that too complicated...
[08:35] <sharpfurniture> every 15 minutes or so my computer turns off
[08:35] <hastesaver> !tell shiv about easyubuntu
[08:35] <crimsun> danilo_: pastebin the output from the following command: ``lspci -nv && lsmod''
[08:35] <floydwilde> so how come sometimes update-manager will give me and upgrade button
[08:35] <danilo_> ok
[08:35] <floydwilde> and sometimes it wont
[08:35] <winbond> can someone help me out with RAID0??
[08:35] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> Is it possible to get a help from here?????
[08:35] <shiv> thanx hastesaver will check on that and let u know
[08:35] <abou> kbrosnan, it's not there
[08:35] <zipper_> Morrowyn, ah, i see...
[08:35] <proxi> ubuntu-es
[08:35] <Zambezi> My firends networkcard, PCMCIA, doesn't work in Xubuntu Dapper drake, but it worked in Ubuntu Live-CD. What can we do to make it work?
[08:35] <_jason> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI: yes, you have to ask a  question first though
[08:35] <proxi> #ubuntu-es
[08:35] <winbond> can someone help me out with RAID0??
[08:35] <lilbit> what command do i run to see what my default gcc version is?
[08:36] <Krpano> there is any alternative to VMware ?
[08:36] <kbrosnan> abou, then use the search I don't know the exact location off the top of my head
[08:36] <hastesaver> !tell Krpano about qemu
[08:36] <psyklops> I'm still having video issues, X claims the nvidia driver doesn't exist
[08:36] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I was about to say that...
[08:36] <winbond> can someone help me out with RAID0??
[08:36] <kimo> winbond: just ask
[08:36] <Krpano> hastesaver , thx
[08:36] <velusip> tcp|p << I've never tried the auto install so I don't know what ubuntu has done for you...
[08:37] <danilo_> crimsun output is quite long .. sure can I do it on screen?
[08:37] <jighead> !raid
[08:37] <ubotu> somebody said raid was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[08:37] <winbond> i cant get the drub to install with raid0
[08:37] <velusip> tcp|p << or against you
[08:37] <r00723r0> im having issues with ubuntu
[08:37] <winbond> i cant get the drub to install with raid0
[08:37] <crimsun> danilo_: use pastebin
[08:37] <crimsun> !paste
[08:37] <r00723r0> every 15 minutes or so my computer suspends
[08:37] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[08:37] <winbond> grub
[08:37] <sindrum> anyone help me get drapper to install im getting an error 18 after installs done. i know i have to add a /boot partition but im not sure how to do this?
[08:37] <r00723r0> even though i turned off the suspend
[08:37] <r00723r0> anyone have any suggestions?
[08:37] <exhale> r00723r0, that could be hundreds of things that cause that..
[08:37] <r00723r0> i know
[08:37] <exhale> whats your system temperatures?
[08:37] <r00723r0> i dont know, but they arent high
[08:38] <r00723r0> it only happens when i idle
[08:38] <winbond> i cant get the grub to install with raid0
[08:38] <kimo> r00723r0: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*
[08:38] <kimo> r00723r0: boot with 'acpi=off'
[08:38] <winbond> tem temperatures?
 i cant get the grub to install with raid0
[08:39] <danilo_> danilo@0din0:~$ lspci -nv && lsmod
[08:39] <danilo_> 0000:00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03)
[08:39] <danilo_>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
[08:39] <danilo_>         Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] 
[08:39] <danilo_>         Capabilities: <available only to root>
[08:39] <danilo_> 0000:00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03)
[08:39] <danilo_>         Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64
[08:39] <danilo_>         Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32
[08:39] <danilo_>         I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff
[08:39] <Mika_i_> use pastebin
[08:39] <r00723r0> kimo, theres nothing in there
[08:39] <danilo_>         Memory behind bridge: dc000000-ddffffff
[08:39] <danilo_>         Prefetchable memory behind bridge: df000000-df7fffff
[08:39] <r00723r0> and im vnc'ed up
[08:39] <danilo_> 0000:00:07.0 0601: 8086:7110 (rev 02)
[08:39] <danilo_>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
[08:39] <r00723r0> flood...
[08:39] <danilo_> 0000:00:07.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01) (prog-if 80 [Master] )
[08:39] <danilo_>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
[08:39] <Mika_i_> huhuuuhhhhhuhu
[08:39] <exhale> lmao nice
[08:39] <gnomefreak> dAndy, stop
[08:39] <r00723r0> kimo, theres nothing in there
[08:39] <r00723r0> and im vnc'ed up btw
[08:39] <amortvigil> well i have downloaded it a few monts ago burned it on a cd , but i installed it on my computer today.
[08:39] <Some_Person> Ok, gnomefreak! The # and the x is gone. It's doing sudo apt-get update right now.
[08:39] <ooodze> hello gentlemen
[08:39] <kimo> winbond: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=2053048
[08:39] <_jason> amortvigil: you burned the iso to a cd and managed to run the install?
[08:39] <r00723r0> sup halibut
[08:39] <danilo_>         Expansion ROM at de000000 [disabled]  [size=1M] 
[08:39] <danilo_> 0000:00:13.0 0780: 1057:5600
[08:40] <danilo_>         Subsystem: 1436:0300
[08:40] <danilo_>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
[08:40] <kimo> winbond: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86219&highlight=raid0 (maybe)
[08:40] <danilo_>         Memory at df901000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256] 
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Some_Person, ok
[08:40] <danilo_>         Capabilities: <available only to root>
[08:40] <danilo_> 0000:01:00.0 0300: 1039:6326 (rev 0b)
[08:40] <danilo_>         Subsystem: 1039:6326
[08:40] <danilo_>         Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32
[08:40] <halibut> r00723r0, why aren't you on v8d anymore?
[08:40] <Mika_i_> wft?
[08:40] <kimo> r00723r0: no sub directories ? or files ?
[08:40] <r00723r0> halibut, i got pissed off
[08:40] <Morrowyn> pastebin?
[08:40] <tristanmike> I installed kubuntu-desktop from an Ubuntu install and I selected to use GDM, my logon is correct, but the system startup procedures have the Kubuntu logo, how do I get it back to the Ubuntu one ?
[08:40] <amortvigil> _jason yes the old version of ubuntu i think
[08:40] <r00723r0> kimo, neither
[08:40] <winbond> can someone help me out with raid?
[08:40] <halibut> r00723r0, come back tbh :P
[08:40] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Morrowyn -about pastebin
[08:40] <r00723r0> halibut, naw
[08:40] <r00723r0> lloyd's a fucktard
[08:40] <halibut> r00723r0, oh? 0o
[08:40] <tristanmike> r00723r0: please watch the language
[08:40] <exhale> tristanmike, reinstall the ubuntu kernel
[08:40] <Morrowyn> i mean for danilo :)
[08:40] <r00723r0> sorry
[08:40] <gnomefreak> r00723r0, watch your language please
[08:40] <Morrowyn> mean.meant
[08:40] <geekosis> i just installed ubuntu for the first time ever
[08:40] <jason^2> i'm having problems with dual monitors and dragging windows between screens... both are different screens but won't let me drag between monitors.. it happens in gnome, kde, ion3, etc, what can i do to fix it?
[08:41] <jighead> winbond: people are helping you, two links have just been pasted, read them, then ask a specific question and we'll be glad to help
[08:41] <r00723r0> kimo, anyway, none of anything
[08:41] <_jason> amortvigil: can you go to applications > accessories > terminal and type the command "lsb_release -c".  What does that say?
[08:41] <r00723r0> its just an empty dir
[08:41] <Jaga> Hello, does anyone know how to get GnomeICU to make sounds on events in dapper?
[08:41] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> I've just installed  6.06. But I can't boot the computer right now. I was getting Grub Stage 1.5 Error 17. I checked the /boot/grub files and released that there is no relevant devices under /dev directory. I've created them by mknod. This time the computer rebooted, But neither option in grub menu runs. It said there is no such partition. I've checked the partition table and even write it again. But no luck. Have tried to reinstall whole thing 4 tim
[08:41] <velusip> GRUB/Raid0 << I can save you a whole world of pain by recommending against using Raid at all if you are new to Linux.
[08:42] <geekosis> i just installed ubuntu and trying to run internet radio but it is not running on the
[08:42] <r00723r0> im having issues... every 15 minutes or so my computer suspends
[08:42] <alphaville> hallo
[08:42] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, is that with the live cd installer?
[08:42] <tristanmike> exhale, which package ?
[08:42] <mumbles_laptop> dose anyone know if the gforce drivers have been fixed for drapper ?
[08:42] <geekosis> do i need to install some plugin or something ?
[08:42] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> yep ssam
[08:42] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> I'm on live cd..
[08:42] <amortvigil> breezy
[08:42] <exhale> tristanmike, look with synaptic :
[08:42] <amortvigil> _jason breezy
[08:43] <tristanmike> exhale: linux-image-blah ?
[08:43] <exhale> yea
[08:43] <sindrum> do i even have to upgrade to drapper or can i stay with breezy
[08:43] <gavagai> is it totally "safe" to install kde/kubuntu from regular ubuntu?
[08:43] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, you might have more luck with the textmode installer (the alternative install cd) its a bit more robust
[08:43] <apokryphos> gavagai: yes
[08:43] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> ssam do you have any idea what might be the problem with me?
[08:43] <gavagai> apokryphos, thank you
[08:43] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, though it is not as pretty
[08:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell amortvigil about upgrade
[08:43] <geekosis> can anyone recommend a media player for ubuntu ?
[08:43] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> you think that it's going to be the only way, SSAM?
[08:44] <apokryphos> !players
[08:44] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, do you have several hard disks?
[08:44] <ubotu> players is, like, totally, Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[08:44] <_jason> amortvigil: ubotu should have sent you instructions for upgrading to dapper in a private message, just ask here if you have any more questions
[08:44] <velusip> geekosis << xine for video, foobar2000 for audio.
[08:44] <amortvigil> yes
[08:44] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> yes I've two disks with couple of partitions. One of them is SATA.. it's seen by sda4
[08:44] <geekosis> thanks let me check out foobar and xine
[08:44] <apokryphos> geekosis: for audio I always use amaroK or JuK, and Kaffeine for video, but if I was confining myself to non-kde, I'd probably use banshee and totem with xine.
[08:45] <william__> logmein.com requires Java Runtime Enviroment how can I figure out if I have it installed?
[08:45] <Some_Person> !dapper
[08:45] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[08:45] <amortvigil> _jason thanx man see you soon im going to restart and figure it out!
[08:45] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, it seems that the live cd installer sometimes does not work if you have a complex set up
[08:45] <geekosis> gosh i know none of these scary names, i just switched from windows, i was using winamp
[08:45] <Chris_Tucker> anyone here successfully get a netgear fa410 working?
[08:45] <velusip> apokryphos << argh! So many! I just wine in xmplay myself. ;P
[08:45] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> oh gush..
[08:45] <zipper_> Morrowyn, hmm, it "works", however my monitor is still the secondary display. My xorg log is here : http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1746. Also the resolution on both screens are 1024x768
[08:46] <jighead> !java
[08:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:46] <apokryphos> velusip: wine? Yu-uck.
[08:46] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> is there any other way to install ubuntu from livecd??
[08:46] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> without downloading alternate installation cd?
[08:46] <velusip> apokrophos << I really like xmplay that much.
[08:46] <apokryphos> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI: apart from the "Install" icon method? No. Read the FAQ.
[08:46] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, the other way would be to play around with grum
[08:46] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, grub
[08:46] <r00723r0> can someone please help?
[08:46] <r00723r0> every 15 minutes or so my computer goes into suspend
[08:46] <r00723r0> and i have to reboot
[08:47] <r00723r0> i turned off the power management in xscreensaver
[08:47] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, it might be that grub has a different idea about the hard disk order than the installer
[08:47] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> yep ssam, I've tried that.. I've run couple of times grub-install --recheck /dev/sda but no hope
[08:47] <garryfre> Check /system/preferences power management
[08:47] <r00723r0> garryfre, me?
[08:47] <psyklops> has anyone else had a problem where, after installing the nvidia drivers, X claims they don't exist?
[08:47] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, at the grub screen try pressing 'E' to edit the boot line
[08:48] <lilbit> Inappropriate build environment is what I get when trying to install vmware
[08:48] <lilbit> can someone help me with this?
[08:48] <Morrowyn> just change the screen one to 1280x786, and change the tv to 1024x768
[08:48] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> then what would you suggest me to do after pressing E ?
[08:48] <lilbit> can I post the error I got?  It's not alot, like 4 lines
[08:48] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, play around with things like changing (hd0) to (hd1)
[08:48] <Morrowyn> it seems that on line 441 , the nvidia says that your 1280 resolution is too large
[08:48] <mash_> which file in the "DNS" network paramater stored in ? everytime I reboot it seems to dissapear.. although the ip address/subnet and gateway is there
[08:48] <garryfre> r00723r0 Yeah, in my system, I found other stuff under power management
[08:48] <h3sp4wn> eXistenZ: Are you / have you tried building vim 7 against the dapper libraries ?
[08:48] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> ssam, I see. But they seem ok in device.map file..
[08:48] <r00723r0> garryfre, its not there
[08:48] <Some_Person> How do I configure WINE?
[08:49] <apokryphos> Some_Person: have you read /msg ubotu wine?
[08:49] <gnomefreak> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, i wouldnt do that unless you know what your doing
[08:49] <exhale> whats to configure Some_Person ?
[08:49] <r00723r0> garryfre, if you want to type a name fast, enter their first few letters and press tab
[08:49] <eXistenZ> h3sp4wn, nope
[08:49] <garryfre> r00723r0 oh ok.
[08:49] <william__> anyone know how I can edit the font sizes for the login screen? ever since I installed Nvidia drivers the fonts are way too big.
[08:49] <Samuli^> apokryphos, winecfg?
[08:49] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, sometimes (hd0) is not /dev/hda
[08:49] <zipper_> Morrowyn, but it isnt. 1280x1024 is the native resolution of my monitor, and my tv can handle 1366x864 (or something like that)
[08:49] <gnomefreak> exhale, winetools
[08:49] <Some_Person> default browser
[08:49] <apokryphos> Samuli^: eh?
[08:49] <j-linux> I'm trying to find a way to be more organized -- something like Outlook.  I need email/tasks/calendar -- sync with web/pda, etc.  I have horde on my server, but I don't think evolution and kontact will connect with horde.  Are there other options?  egroupware? opengroupware?  It doesn't have to be groupware, I just want evolution or kontact to synchronize with a web pim so I can access the info anywhere.  Any suggestions?
[08:49] <lilbit> this what I get when trying to innstall vmware /tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/Makefile:89: *** Inappropriate build environment: you wanted to use gcc version 4.0.3 while kernel attempts to use gcc version .
[08:49] <garryfre> r00723r0 Yep, I do that, but I have trouble seeing certain letters.
[08:49] <Some_Person> i'm runnin mIRC in WINE, and it uses the firefox on my windows partition for web pages
[08:49] <CarinArr> does the artwiz fonts package work for anyone here? installs fine for me but the fonts don't seem to be recognised
[08:50] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> ssam, but in device.map file it is showed that /dev/hda is hd0 and /dev/sda is hd1
[08:50] <apokryphos> Some_Person: why are you using mirc
[08:50] <CarinArr> i managed to hack it in breezy but i can't remember how i did it, and i can't be bothered to now;)
[08:50] <Samuli^> apokryphos, just type winecfg in terminal and configure.
[08:50] <apokryphos> Samuli^: I'm not trying to configure 8)
[08:50] <velusip> Some_Person << hehe, someone got a little over zealous with wine.
[08:50] <Warbo> CarinArr: I think they may be bitmapped fonts (for the terminal)
[08:50] <Some_Person> i'm used to it and like it
[08:50] <apokryphos> Some_Person: have yout ried the alternatives?
[08:50] <velusip> I understand./
[08:50] <r00723r0> garryfre, its not there in any case
[08:51] <apokryphos> Some_Person: "used it and like it" is a reason for staying with Windoze
[08:51] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, on my system (hd0) is whicheven harddisk is set to boot first in the bios, so it can change
[08:51] <Samuli^> apokryphos, I mixed the lines, my bad.
[08:51] <CarinArr> Warbo, what do you mean?
[08:51] <farous> apokryphos: sometimes you have to use wine
[08:51] <apokryphos> farous: nope
[08:51] <apokryphos> and CERTAINLY not for IRC
[08:52] <farous> apokryphos: nothing like adobe professional for linux
[08:52] <DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI> I see ssam. Thank you indeed for your time. I'll play around a bit. God bless you..
[08:52] <ssam> DAPPER_DRAKE_FAI, good luck
[08:52] <CarinArr> farous, hardly the same thing as irc
[08:52] <Morrowyn> zipper_, weird, i kinda ran out of options here, try switching the cables perhaps, maybe it works with this config, only at 1024res but if it works....
[08:52] <Warbo> CarinArr: Fonts that you use in, for example, OpenOffice are made as outlines. This means that they look really smooth and can be zoomed in to any size. Consoles (terminals) have to use bitmapped (made out of pixel) fonts, and I think Artwiz fonts are those. I will check
[08:52] <Jaga> Hello, does anyone know how to get GnomeICU to make sounds on events in dapper?
[08:52] <zipper_> Morrowyn, and the most important issue is really getting my monitor to be the primary display instead of my tv.
[08:52] <czer323> The more I use linux, the longer my to-do list grows to customize it.
[08:52] <h3sp4wn> eXistenZ: It has a lot of dependancies (probably because I am building every varient of it from the debian sid source package) but it seems to be building ok
[08:52] <Samuli^> is there a program to simulate electronic circuits for linux?
[08:52] <CarinArr> warbo, er yes, but i'm not sure why that's relevant
[08:52] <jighead> j-linux: icalx icalshare icalworld are all free web cals
[08:52] <ron_o> czer323, is that bad? :)
[08:53] <zipper_> Morrowyn, hmm... too bad =/. Tried switching the cables, did nothing. But i'll keep on struggeling on my own then, thanks for your time anyway
[08:53] <anfangs> Samuli^: wondered that too
[08:53] <ron_o> personal choice is the key.
[08:53] <czer323> ron_o> Sometimes.  I mean, I don't mind.  I'm up for the challenge.  I could see other people be easily frustrated by it though.
[08:53] <CarinArr> fix my artwiz fonts kthnx
[08:53] <CarinArr> heh
[08:54] <ron_o> but you don't have to customize it at all. Many people are satisfied the way things are.
[08:54] <slackern> Samuli^: do a 'apt-cache search circuit' should be a couple of them there.
[08:54] <Warbo> CarinArr: I think the artwiz fonts are bitmapped, therefore you will not be able to see them in OpenOffice and stuff (I am loading up Synaptic to check)
[08:54] <CarinArr> i'm not using openoffice
[08:54] <Morrowyn> well gl zipper, let me know if you got it wokring properly, you might wanna paste the log on the nvidia forum or email them with your problem, for who knows, it might be a bug in their driver...?
[08:55] <anfangs> what's a lightweight console player for mp3s?
[08:55] <czer323> ron_o> default wireless controls> had to install networkmanager, default ability to suspend?  Almost non-existant.  nvidia drivers> had to install.  patch wireless for wpa.
[08:55] <mooseman447> hey im back
[08:55] <CarinArr> i want to use them with fluxbox which has worked fine before, but i remember the .deb not working properly last time i did it too
[08:55] <sindrum> anyone help me get drapper to install im getting an error 18 after installs done. i know i have to add a /boot partition but im not sure how to do this?
[08:55] <acke> hey guys, i need jre 1.5.X does this exist for linux?
[08:55] <Warbo> CarinArr: My bad, they are apparently pcf files
[08:55] <acke> and is there a way to install it for ubuntu
[08:55] <CarinArr> acke, yeah but not as a package, you have to get the .bin from sun
[08:55] <jighead> !java
[08:55] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:55] <CarinArr> (afaik)
[08:56] <Morrowyn> CarinArr, you giving ubuntu another go?
[08:56] <zipper_> Morrowyn, perhaps... that would explain a lot of things. Either way, if i get it working, i'll be sure to let you know
[08:56] <ron_o> czer323, that's not exactly customization. That's getting things to work.
[08:56] <czer323> ron_o> you're right, it might be fine for others at first glance, but I've still got to tweak away.  don't get me wrong, ubuntu is definately my favorite linux distro right now due to ease of use.  I'm just wondering what it'll be like in a few years.
[08:56] <apokryphos> acke: FAQ
[08:56] <CarinArr> another go?;)
[08:56] <Morrowyn> :) zipper
[08:56] <acke> CarinArr, okay ty
[08:56] <Krpano> Is it possible to change the Terminal shortcut to "paste" ?
[08:56] <Morrowyn> CarinArr :P
[08:56] <ron_o> I thought you meant, you know, putting paint on the OS.
[08:56] <Crescendo> Installed Breezy PPC on an iMac using "server" specs... how to get LAMP installed...?
[08:56] <CarinArr> have been using ubuntu for a good while.. just hadn't upgraded to dapper yet
[08:56] <Morrowyn> did you manage to kick that students butt with the java program?
[08:56] <Crescendo> AMP, more like.
[08:56] <czer323> ron_o> Yeah, I guess you could say 'getting things to work.'  But that's the type of list that keeps growing.
[08:57] <Warbo> CarinArr: Well, the first thing I found in Google is actually to do with Fluxbox so this may help http://www.fluxbox.org/docbook/en/html/app-artwiz.html
[08:57] <Morrowyn> and i know you have been using ubuntu for a while, just teasing you ;)
[08:57] <CarinArr> no, or well, i failed him, but we don't get a chance to give them any feedback
[08:57] <ron_o> czer323, couldn't you install a live CD like Knoppix and copy the configs from there?
[08:57] <CarinArr> Warbo, yeah i know, i've seen that
[08:57] <CarinArr> but the actual fonts package doesn't work;)
[08:57] <Morrowyn> oh, thats a pity, so he doesnt know why he failed
[08:57] <Administrator_> How can I foward incoming e-mails to a printer?
[08:57] <Warbo> CarinArr: OK, well that's all I can come up with at the moment
[08:57] <andax> is there a way currently to get accelerated 3D with an ATI9600 on dapper? I'm getting the "could not register entrypoint" errors with xorg-driver-fglrx and also with the 8.25 proprietary ati driver.
[08:57] <czer323> ron_o> It'll be fine.  I've got this hand to-do list package that i installed for taking notes while adding ideas.  Knoppix?  nah.  I'm not too worried about it.  it was just a passing comment.
[08:57] <CarinArr> warbo, thanks for trying:)
[08:58] <ron_o> ok.
[08:58] <czer323> I've just got more to do now, than I had for the past few days.
[08:58] <frying_fish> andax: I have 3D acceleration on 9600XT
[08:58] <frying_fish> but the regular 9600 should be fine
[08:58] <Warbo> Has anyone here used Qemu much?
[08:58] <anfangs> do i have voice?
[08:59] <TheSheep> anfangs: this channel is not moderated
[08:59] <andax> frying_fish, i also have a 9600xt. do you use the driver from ati.com or xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[08:59] <william__> What programs should I be using to transcode AVI files to author a DVD
[08:59] <anfangs> do i have voice?
[08:59] <frying_fish> xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:59] <frying_fish> and it works as a charm
[08:59] <corpsicle> what does this mean ?
[08:59] <corpsicle> "configure: error: cannot find X11 development files
[08:59] <corpsicle> "
[09:00] <anfangs> what's a lightweight console player for mp3s?
[09:00] <corpsicle> i installed xorg dev files
[09:00] <Jowi> at boot, dapper say: "There are differences between boot sector and backup" spits out a page of numbers then say "Not automatically fixing". anyone seen this before?
[09:00] <Warbo> william__: If you want to make vob files then transcode (the program) can probably do it
[09:00] <apokryphos> corpsicle: have you read the FAQ?
[09:00] <h3sp4wn> angangs: mpg321
[09:00] <LjL> Jowi: yes, me
[09:00] <corpsicle> anfangs: ten years ago i would have said mpg123, dunno today =P
[09:00] <anfangs> h3sp4wn: ok, thx
[09:00] <LjL> Jowi: a bit of google searching made it look like it could be a problem with FAT parttions. do you have any?
[09:00] <corpsicle> apokryphos: well ... not entirely no =P
[09:00] <LjL> Jowi: (though i haven't really investigated further)
[09:00] <william__> I dont know much about the actual filetypes.. Nero Vision made me lazy.  I just need to get AVI to whatever files DVDs use
[09:01] <mark-addict> does any know anything about network installs
[09:01] <andax> frying_fish, which version you have installed? I have 7.0.0-8.25.18+2.6.15.11-1 and I can't make it to work.   (check with dpkg -l |grep xorg-driver-fglrx )
[09:01] <frying_fish> corpsicle: make sure its looking in the right place
[09:01] <jighead> mark-addict: pxe or kickstart?
[09:01] <apokryphos> corpsicle: well, you do need the X includes
[09:01] <Jowi> LjL: yeah, got a fat32 partition on primary master. i don't mind the error since it work anyway, but i would like to either fix it or supress the message.
[09:01] <frying_fish> same version.
[09:01] <andax> thanks
[09:01] <Warbo> william__: Well DVDs contain files ending in ".vob" so you could make those with transcode. I think you would be better getting something which takes care of it all for you though
[09:01] <abou> to redirect the stderr to /dev/null I would do :   find / -name "<pattern>" 2%1 > /dev/null?
[09:01] <mark-addict> actually i am trying to install the server 386 version
[09:01] <apokryphos> corpsicle: what is it you're trying to compile?
[09:02] <frying_fish> andax: I assume you have fglrx set up in xorg.conf
[09:02] <LjL> Jowi: let me see if i can find again the site where it explained how to suppress it. haven't tested it though
[09:02] <william__> I would agree with you Warbo, thats what Nero Vision did for me
[09:02] <Jowi> cheers LjL
[09:02] <andax> frying_fish, yes of course... i'm experiencing this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/47603
[09:03] <r00723r0> can someone help? every 20 minutes or so when im on the computer it suspends
[09:03] <r00723r0> i mean
[09:03] <r00723r0> when im gone
[09:03] <lilbit> is Ubuntu going the way of Redhat and Mandrake?  from a free for everybody to a "ok, now let's make money type deal"
[09:03] <frying_fish> andax: ouch.
[09:03] <Crescendo> Installed Breezy PPC on an iMac using "server" specs... how to get (-L)AMP installed...?
[09:03] <mjr> lilbit, the official line is "no"
[09:03] <Warbo> william__: A quick search in Synaptic for "dvd author" has shown qdvdauthor which may be nice and user friendly (it needs QT though)
[09:03] <frying_fish> Don't really know what to think of really, I battled for ages with slackware, never got it working, then works fine with ubuntu
[09:03] <william__> okie thanks Warbo
[09:04] <lilbit> mjr, I see
[09:04] <apokryphos> lilbit: what do you mean?
[09:04] <jighead> Crescendo: sudo aptitude install apache mysql-server php
[09:04] <hedos> Hello guys. What do you suggest as a good IDE for C++ development on Linux? I'm looking for something efficient to work on project with a lot of files. Integrated debugging support would be a plus, as well as auto-completion / info about functions parameters and that kind of stuff. Any suggestions?
[09:04] <Jowi> Crescendo: the dapper-server cd has the option to install LAMP without any fuss. otherwise check out the lamp wiki
[09:04] <TheGeek_> output=`gcc main.c -o program $(pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0)` <-- when i put this in a shell script, i get errors from gcc
[09:04] <frank__> lilbit: They say there will never be a non-free version of Ubuntu. Of course Canonical will want to sell service and support for Ubuntu
[09:04] <garryfre> When they can get dark ages of camelot to run under wine, then maybe I might look at wine.
[09:04] <Jowi> !tell Crescendo about lamp
[09:04] <apokryphos> hedos: I hear KDevelop is very good
[09:04] <garryfre> And I'll get a snowcone in hell on the way.
[09:04] <Morrowyn> hedos, try  eclipse wit the eclipse-cdt plugin or anjta or kdevelop, depending on your taste
[09:04] <r00723r0> can someone help? every 20 minutes or so when im off the computer it suspends, anyone have suggestions?
[09:04] <MrBallZ> hi, i'm trying to compile madwifi-ng drivers, I allready got , build essentials, gcc4 and linux headers,  and madwifi needs AES so, apt-get  loop-aes, and the module aes is loaded, but still i cant compile,   when trying to compile, it says that AES is not enabled .... what can i do ?
[09:05] <lilbit> apokryphos, well, I just get this feeing that eventually Ubuntu will go the way of Redhat and all the others
[09:05] <hedos> Thanks for the suggestions guys.
[09:05] <Some_Person> I use apache/mysql/php in Windows (and unrealircd/anope)
[09:05] <LjL> Jowi: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/
[09:05] <apokryphos> lilbit: well, Ubuntu have promised to "always be free" (as in liberty)
[09:05] <geekosis> ok i installed amok and tried to run internet radio from playlist, it keeps on buffering and nothing plays ?
[09:05] <LjL> Jowi: under "troubleshooting"
[09:05] <garryfre> Not critisizing wine, but some games change faster than socks on smelly feet.
[09:05] <Jowi> LjL: will have a look. thanks a bunch
[09:05] <spikeb> redhat's distro is still free in liberty
[09:06] <spikeb> hence the clones
[09:06] <garryfre> l
[09:06] <apokryphos> I doubt Ubuntu will bring out an enterprise version now
[09:06] <Crescendo> Thanks a bunch, jighead
[09:06] <garryfre> Liberty?
[09:06] <apokryphos> or even in the near future
[09:06] <mo0se> !ntfs
[09:06] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[09:06] <Warbo> lilbit: Canonical is only really there to give corporate customers some reassurance. I think Ubuntu actually loses some of Mr. Shuttleworth's money, but he makes so much from investments elsewhere that he doesn't mind. Therefore I think that Ubuntu will stay free, as there is not any business sense in it even existing, let alone being invested in heavily.
[09:06] <h3sp4wn> MrBallZ: is that from todays svn ?
[09:06] <spikeb> they already have an interprise version, that's what the LTS is.
[09:06] <h3sp4wn> MrBallZ: (for madwifi-ng)
[09:06] <r00723r0> can someone help? every 20 minutes or so when im off the computer it suspends, anyone have suggestions?
[09:07] <Toge> hello again
[09:07] <Toge> how can I create a .deb?
[09:07] <apokryphos> spikeb: that you pay for, I mean. You pay for the support, not the actual product.
[09:07] <apokryphos> Toge: using checkinstall
[09:07] <Warbo> Toge: From source code you can use checkinstall
[09:07] <Toge> thanks
[09:07] <h3sp4wn> Toge: debuild -us -uc
[09:07] <MrBallZ> h3sp4wn: its the tarball from todays snapshot ...
[09:07] <Aesop> Heya all.
[09:07] <apokryphos> Toge: but if you want to properly package debs, you'll have to learn a bit of stuff first.
[09:07] <garryfre> Maybe there is some bios powersaving features that ye need to address so it don't suspend.
[09:07] <LjL> Toge: that doesn't create a "real" .deb with dependencie and al, though
[09:07] <Aesop> Does anyone have experience getting a USB HEadset (Logitech 250) to work under Ubuntu?
[09:07] <ROBOd> hello
[09:07] <h3sp4wn> MrBallZ: I tried it also (this morning and couldn't get it to build)
[09:08] <garryfre> Some computers have a particular key combo to get out of suspension.
[09:08] <proxi> #debian-es
[09:08] <ROBOd> how do I configure the default system language?
[09:08] <garryfre> Hammer to keyboard, tends to get it out of suspend mode.
[09:08] <pianoboy3333> I'm trying to build the 2.6.16 kernel, how can I find out what processor to choose/which I have?
[09:09] <ROBOd> there was something like dpkg-config locale ... but i can't remember the exact command
[09:09] <iNiku> pianoboy3333: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:09] <MrBallZ> h3sp4wn: hahahaha ... so what do we do ?  did you try the svn ? ...
[09:09] <garryfre> acpi if I recall.
[09:09] <h3sp4wn> MrBallZ: I happened to have madwifi-ng-r1614-20060601 also which definately does build (with it being still in development it is unlikely to build properly all the time
[09:09] <Warbo> Can anyone help me get qemu on the internet? User mode networking has always worked in the past, but now it has stopped, and tun/tap seems very confusing
[09:09] <william__> how do I make VLC take over running avi files and what not?
[09:09] <pianoboy3333> iNiku: ah, ok, I have hyperthreading on an P4
[09:09] <apokryphos> ROBOd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:09] <Warbo> william__: right click on the AVI file and select it as default in "open with"
[09:09] <ROBOd> thanks apokryphos
[09:10] <slimz> hi, does anyone know of a way to install dapper on a pc only hooked up to a television through s-video? when anything starts, the tv goes out of range
[09:10] <MrBallZ> h3sp4wn: mmm... is that one working for you ... btw , do you know what version comes with dapper 6.06 ??
[09:10] <garryfre> choose p4 processor.
[09:10] <Warbo> william__: (in it's properties)
[09:10] <Jowi> LjL: pretty sure that fixed it even though I have not rebooted yet. dappers fstab had some strange defaults for the vfat partition alright. thanks again :)
[09:10] <apokryphos> slimz: alternate CD?
[09:10] <iNiku> pianoboy3333: you'll want p4/686 with SMP support, then
[09:10] <h3sp4wn> MrBallZ: dapper uses madwifi-old
[09:10] <pianoboy3333> iNiku: yes, ok
[09:10] <william__> your awesome Warbo, thanks again
[09:10] <frying_fish> iNiku: the 686 kernel has it built in anyway, so don't need something specific.
[09:11] <Warbo> slimz: You could access it remotely through telnet or ssh (or even VNC for graphics) if you network it to another machine
[09:11] <slimz> apokryphos : i tried, the dapper desktop cd works in safe mode, but then the display isnt configured properly and still goes out of range
[09:11] <h3sp4wn> MrBallZ: if you want to use madwifi-ng with dapper you have to use wext (as apposed to madwifi) in the wpa_supplicant config (or else re-build wpa_supplicant)
[09:11] <slimz> warbo : i cant even get it installed
[09:11] <apokryphos> slimz: and what happens with the alternate cd?
[09:11] <Warbo> slimz: Oh
[09:11] <garryfre> There is a pre-built kernel for that too that should be auto downloading when it checks for updates.
[09:11] <ROBOd> the ubuntu theme is not animated
[09:11] <sadaiy> hey room
[09:11] <iNiku> frying_fish: has what built in?
[09:11] <sadaiy> i havea  apriblem
[09:11] <sadaiy> *problem
[09:11] <MrBallZ> h3sp4wn: mmm can you explain more in detail ... or point to somewhere ? ... i want to have -ng so to also use aircrack-ng
[09:11] <sadaiy> can anyone help me ?
[09:11] <ROBOd> rolling over the buttons doesn't fade to the roll over state
[09:11] <slimz> Warbo : the tv just cant display ubuntu, i think the refresh rate of the installer is too high
[09:11] <apokryphos> !helpme
[09:11] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[09:11] <Crescendo> Statting mySQL database error: mysqld...failed.
[09:12] <ROBOd> what's the problem?
[09:12] <Warbo> slimz: You could memorise the right buttons :) (I have to do that on my MP3 player since I broke the screen)
[09:12] <Crescendo> =\
[09:12] <sadaiy> my wireless doesn't work on ubuntu
[09:12] <Crescendo> How do I look at the syslog?
[09:12] <apokryphos> sadaiy: have you read the FAQ?
[09:12] <sadaiy> no
[09:12] <sadaiy> i have intel wireless 2200bg
[09:12] <apokryphos> sadaiy: you'll want to :)
[09:12] <frying_fish> SMP capability
[09:12] <slimz> Warbo : kind of defeats the purpose of having something set up as a media center ;)
[09:12] <garryfre> !ndiswrapper
[09:12] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:12] <frying_fish> there's no longer the separate packages for 686 and 686 SMP
[09:12] <iNiku> frying_fish: he's compiling his own kernel
[09:13] <iNiku> frying_fish: and asking about the compile options
[09:13] <Warbo> slimz: I meant learn the installer, and once it's installed access it remotely and then use that to set it up right
[09:13] <mo0se> sound for ubuntu worked when it was on vmware... but not when i install it on a partition.
[09:13] <mo0se> :(
[09:13] <h3sp4wn> MrBallZ: Are you using network manager ?
[09:13] <r3nd3r>  why dont they reveal which irc channels those quotes from bash.org are from ?
[09:13] <lilbit> any swat users in the house?
[09:13] <slimz> Warbo : anything you can suggest to have it setup right? i mean as having s-video output as primary and only video output?
[09:13] <iNiku> r3nd3r: think you've found one from here? :)
[09:13] <_bt> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191306
[09:13] <shadeofgrey> okay guys heres a question  for you..
[09:13] <_bt> can anyone help me with that?
[09:13] <r3nd3r> iNiku, nah
[09:13] <slimz> Warbo : also, how would i find the ubuntu machines ip address on the network to vnc to it?
[09:14] <anfangs> i have a pcmcia eithernet card that wasnt detected at install (may not have been securely inserted). I know the module name (axnet_cs) . How can I get my nic working? I used damn small linux to make sure the nic wasnt bad....
[09:14] <Warbo> slimz: Sorry. I bought my dad a new graphics card so he could get DVDs on his telly, but I couldn't set that up right
[09:14] <MrBallZ> h3sp4wn: pm ...
[09:14] <apokryphos> _bt: it's always better to state the problem and then link out to additional links for extra info
[09:14] <_bt> anfangs, sudo modprobe axnet_cs
[09:14] <_bt> apokryphos, i did before, no answer
[09:14] <Crescendo> How do I look at the syslog?
[09:14] <shadeofgrey> now that ive dojne a fresh install of ubuntu on my primary disk and put grub in the masterboot record on hda1 what do i do with the old install on sda -- can i just do a regular format and thats it?
[09:14] <Warbo> slimz: The IP address has to be set by you, or else set up some kind of DHCP server
[09:14] <anfangs> _bt: ive done that... eth0 still not installed
[09:14] <apokryphos> _bt: doesn't mean it's better not to =)
[09:15] <MrBallZ> h3sp4wn: did you see the private message
[09:15] <acke> CarinArr i got the jre .bin file. how do i install it? i am in a hurry as i will be out of internet access soon
[09:15] <_bt> ok, sorry apokryphos
[09:15] <_bt> "when using any of the tty consoles, they blank every 5 seconds for about a second. also the font is not too hot, it looks a bit squashed. can anyone help to resolve this?"
[09:15] <inrelief> what do you all use for wireless network monitoring?  nm-applet, or the deafult gnome network monitor?
[09:15] <inrelief> ugh
[09:15] <anfangs> _bt: the modprobe apparently had no errors in verbose mode
[09:15] <inrelief> my packetloss is huge
[09:15] <_bt> anfangs, re-insert the card and type dmesg
[09:15] <inrelief> would broadcasting on another channel (for the wireless router) help my packetloss situation?
[09:16] <SystemBomber> i use channel 17
[09:16] <slimz> Warbo : the ubuntu machine connects to my xp machine which hosts the cable modem
[09:16] <anfangs> _bt: ok, i'm not at the machine right now, but ill try that
[09:16] <Warbo> acke: Do you know about the sun-java5 packages?
[09:16] <_bt> anfangs, note the messages at the bottom. they may help you fix your problem.
[09:16] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone here help me with building the 2.6.16 kernel, I'm having trouble finding IO Schedulers in qconf
[09:16] <anfangs> _bt: ok thanks
[09:17] <iNiku> inrelief: worth a try, there could be interference on the channel you're using
[09:17] <Warbo> slimz: See, now you are dragging me out of my comfort zome. I am uneasy about Linux>Linux networking, but hopeless with Win>Lin.
[09:17] <Fjodor> inrelief: I seem to remember, that the lower channel numbers are less prone to losses, but I can't come up with an explanation
[09:17] <_bt> apokryphos, do you have any ideas? i've just switched to ubuntu and thats the only thing left bugging me :(
[09:18] <_bt> Fjodor, inteference from other 2.4gig devices ?
[09:18] <apokryphos> _bt: no idea I'm afraid, you should compile a bug report.
[09:18] <Fjodor> _bt: That could very well be it
[09:18] <_bt> apokryphos, is there a howto on doing that/what to include etc
[09:18] <acke> Warbo no i dont know about the. i got a jreversnumber.bin file that contains what i need i think i just need to get it running?!
[09:18] <sadaiy> ok i need hlpe
[09:18] <sadaiy> i help
[09:18] <gnomefreak> AfterDeath, please remove your away message
[09:18] <acke> Warbo and i dont know how to install .bin files in linux
[09:18] <inrelief> iNiku, Fjodor thanks, if i remember correctly, channels 1, 6, and 11 the most common right?
[09:18] <sadaiy> i downloaded WPA-SUpplicant
[09:18] <apokryphos> _bt: state the problem with the output you have on the forum entry; if they need other info they'll probably tell you
[09:18] <sadaiy> how do i install it
[09:18] <Jowi> _bt: i had that when my RAM wasn't properly inserted. not only with tty's though (xorg as well)
[09:18] <apokryphos> _bt: /msg ubotu bug, for the link
[09:18] <sadaiy> brb... phone
[09:19] <Jemt> How can I trace a connection from my computer to a web-server? I need to find out what routes I go through and the response time between each of them - similar to 'tracert' from Windows
[09:19] <Fjodor> inrelief: Np, and dunno :-)
[09:19] <freezey> how could he remove the away message if he is away?
[09:19] <_bt> Jowi, ouch!
[09:19] <lml> jemt: traceroute
[09:19] <Jemt> lml: 'traceroute6 http://domain.com' dosn't work
[09:19] <Warbo> acke: It is quite simple to install so called ".bin" files, but I would not recommend it. There are packages in Synaptic called sun-java5-something (bin, doc, etc) which will be nice and update themselves and install dependencies and stuff. They are better than the bin file
[09:19] <Jowi> _bt: what videocard do you have? are the correct drivers loaded?
[09:19] <Jemt> lml: I have tryed 'man', but no luck
[09:19] <sadaiy> how do i install WPA_supplicant ?
[09:19] <AfterDeath> gnomefreak: sorry
[09:19] <_bt> i have radeon 9600se (rv350)
[09:19] <Jemt> lml: Obviously my skills that's lagging :)
[09:20] <lml> jemt: sorry tracepath
[09:20] <Jemt> lml: I've tried them all :)
[09:20] <Jowi> _bt: have you followed the ati wiki?
[09:20] <_bt> Jowi, nope
[09:20] <Jowi> ubotu, tell _bt about ati
[09:20] <lml> jemt: hmm, works for me.
[09:20] <lml> jemt: do you get an error?
[09:20] <Jemt> lml: 'tracepath http://domain.com' outputs : gethostbyname2: Unknown host
[09:21] <_bt> thanks Jowi
[09:21] <Warbo> acke: Also, unless you know you need java1.5 ("java5"), for example Azureus needs it, then you can install the slightly older j2re1.4 package
[09:21] <Crescendo> How do I look at the syslog?
[09:21] <Jowi> np _bt hope it helps
[09:21] <ciaron> anyone have a writely account that i could beg an invite off?
[09:21] <Crescendo> I have a writely.
[09:21] <lml> jemt: could you please try, host http://domain.com
[09:21] <Crescendo> PM me with your email account.
[09:21] <Jemt> lml: Sure, sec
[09:21] <apokryphos> writely?
[09:22] <_bt> Jowi, rendering is already enabled. so i guess its working out of the box
[09:22] <Crescendo> Google Writely.  It's an online free version of Microsoft Word.
[09:22] <shadeofgrey> is there a better ftp client besides gftp?
[09:22] <jighead> Crescendo: dmesg will fire off some log info, sudo less /var/log/messages will give you general log messages
[09:22] <Jemt> lml: Host http://domain.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[09:22] <Jowi> _bt: yeah, i haven't got an Ati card so I can't help you much further than that
[09:22] <simonpca> plop
[09:22] <dra> my computer crashed yesterday while installing emacsen-common, now I can't neither install nor uninstall that package...what to do?
[09:22] <shadeofgrey> im a tad rusty..  been working in windows too long lately
[09:22] <jighead> Crescendo: you can take a look around in /var/log to find all sorts of good log info
[09:22] <Warbo> Crescendo: You mean word processor. Don't fall for their branding :)
[09:22] <lml> jemt: you have a problem with your DNS servers.
[09:22] <shadeofgrey> but thats a problem ive remedied for sure now...
[09:22] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone here help me with building the 2.6.16 kernel, I'm having trouble finding IO Schedulers in the qconf that pops up, I'm folowing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560
[09:23] <Jemt> Oh
[09:23] <Jemt> lml: I'm behind several routers
[09:23] <Jemt> Maybe that's it
[09:23] <shadeofgrey> managed to get a real nasty worm, and just decided, screw it - its back to the land of endless penguin lovin'
[09:23] <Jemt> lml: well, thanks :)
[09:23] <ThePub> Good afternoon!  Is there a single package that can be tagged for reinstall in synaptic in order to reinstall gnome?
[09:23] <lml> jemt: I don't know what can be causing that, but check your network setup.
[09:23] <stoft> Looking for tips: I want to set up an anacronjob to update packages (security-fix/trivial-only) and piping to a file. So far I have a small script that pipes to a log file under /var/log. Does this sound like a good solution or are there any special details I should think about?
[09:24] <Jowi> ThePub: ubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <Warbo> shadeofgrey: You heard that Steve Ballmer and the whole of microsoft's techy people couldn't fix this guy's computer because it was so infected?
[09:24] <Jowi> ThePub: that will re-install everything even remotely connected to gnome as well though
[09:24] <Jemt> lml: Thanks, will do :)
[09:25] <ThePub> Jowi,  that's fine :)  I uninstalled some of the apparently unuseful services (bluetooth for example) and gnome stopped loading
[09:25] <h3sp4wn> MrBallz: I am not up for helping people crack wireless networks sorry
[09:25] <PsycoEwok> heh I see I'm not the only person here having issues with ATI drivers :P
[09:25] <Warbo> Jowi: Will it though? It is only a metapackage and I think reinstall will leave the main packages alone
[09:25] <stoft> ThePub: try the package "gnome" as well, maybe that'll be enough?
[09:26] <acke> Warbo thanks, yeah i need 1.5, as i need a specific package from that version. (java.util.concurrent). but yeah version 1.5.X was installed already thanks. just had to find it. now my environment complains on missing java VM..
[09:26] <LasseL> I want to upgrade my hoary running server to dapper, do I /really/ need to upgrade to breezy first?
[09:26] <mattm591> hello. i havre a problem. i was using the ubuntu dapper beta and i thought id automatically get updated to the offical one but when i load i still get the ubuntu dapper logo on boot
[09:26] <Crescendo> How to start mysql server
[09:26] <Crescendo> ?
[09:27] <Gh0sty> Crescendo: /etc/init.d/mysql start or mysql-server start
[09:27] <LasseL> Crescendo: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[09:27] <Warbo> acke: If you install galternatives and run it with sudo then you can set your system's default Java version (among other things)
[09:27] <Jowi> Warbo: good point. but it should. I think
[09:27] <flo_> where are usualy located the icons that a software installs with a normal deb package?
[09:27] <amnezia> LasseL:  if you want to skip lots of errors which you may not be able to fix yourself..
[09:27] <shadeofgrey> whats the terminal string to get x to stop?
[09:27] <shadeofgrey> i thought it was /apt/etc/gdm stop
[09:27] <rcrocker> How do I install ubuntu 6.06 with the option noapic nolapic ?
[09:27] <salmiak_> killall X ;P
[09:27] <shadeofgrey> no
[09:27] <synap> heya, I upgraded mybreezy laptop to dapper, now I nicely get GDM, but upon logging in X restarts
[09:27] <acke> Warbo thanks installing it now
[09:27] <mattm591> how can i upgrade from beta dapper to offical dapper?
[09:28] <ThePub> argh :(
[09:28] <shadeofgrey> i just want X to stop
[09:28] <Jowi> shadeofgrey: do you mean "x" as in Xorg or "x" as in any application?
[09:28] <TheBigToe> someone told me I should change to KDE and could do it easily, but I can't find a wiki doc about it
[09:28] <Warbo> Jowi: It will reinstall stuff as in "I uninstalled it and now I want to reinstall it", but not in the "Mark for reinstallation" sense
[09:28] <synap> any of you a suggestion ?
[09:28] <shadeofgrey> Xorg
[09:28] <amnezia> rcrocker:  write it in the GRUB command line when starting ubuntu (press esc, etc)
[09:28] <LasseL> amnezia: why would it give errors?
[09:28] <ThePub> dapper upgrade sucks.. hard locks right and left :(
[09:28] <michaeln> how do I get vlc to play dvds?
[09:28] <GnarusLeo> I have a desket 690c printer, how do I install it?
[09:28] <gnomefreak> TheBigToe, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:28] <amnezia> LasseL:  it may or may not, you don't know
[09:28] <Jowi> Warbo: ah. so it defies logic :)
[09:28] <shadeofgrey> so that i can enable NVidia support
[09:28] <Jemt> Hrfm! Am I the only one unable to get the Flash Player installed in Firefox? It failes every time
[09:28] <TheBigToe> gnomefreak, thanks
[09:28] <ROBOd> hey guys
[09:28] <mattm591> michaeln have you got the dvd codecs instsalled
[09:28] <ROBOd> i'm back
[09:28] <Crescendo> mysql failed to start
[09:28] <lml> I have a 3Com OfficeConnect wireless card that I cannot get to run under Ubuntu, anybody up for some assistance?
[09:28] <acke> Warbo my error msg was specified VM install not found: type standard VM, name jre_1.5.0_06
[09:28] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here built the 2.6.16 kernel
[09:28] <LasseL> amnezia: do you?
[09:28] <ROBOd> dpkg-reconfigure locales works but it's not exactly what I want
[09:28] <michaeln> mattm591: I'm assuming I don't - how do I do that
[09:28] <gnomefreak> TheBigToe, after its installed log out and on the login screen click sessions and choose kde
[09:29] <ROBOd> i want it to ask me to pick the default language
[09:29] <mattm591> automatix can do it for u easiest
[09:29] <synap> !upgrade
[09:29] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[09:29] <Warbo> acke: What was that for (what were you doing?)
[09:29] <TheBigToe> thanks
[09:29] <amnezia> LasseL:  I use the unstable tree
[09:29] <PsycoEwok> Anyways, I was wondering if anyone could help me solve a problem. I'm having trouble removing a package using Synaptic. It keeps giving me an error (E: xorg-driver-fglrx: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2)
[09:29] <michaeln> !automatix
[09:29] <ubotu> I heard automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[09:29] <ROBOd> dpkg-reconfigure just updated the locales, it didn't ask me for the default
[09:29] <rcrocker> Thanks amnezia
[09:29] <ROBOd> !easyubuntu
[09:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is, like, an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[09:29] <Solskogen> I just got a mac (g4) but i wonder if its a powerpc, or powerpc64. How do I figure? (I just got it)
[09:29] <Crescendo> Yeah, MySQL failed to start.  "Please take a look at the syslog."
[09:29] <psyklops> what file determines which xserver the system will use?
[09:29] <ydnar> is it true update manager updates all the software installed on your computer, including the OS?
[09:29] <mattm591> ubotu i disagree i have alkways used automatix without anyproblems along with countless others
[09:29] <ubotu> mattm591: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[09:29] <acke> Warbo javadev with eclipse
[09:29] <_bt> can anyone tell me where to report bugs?
[09:30] <mo0se> what's the repository for the ubuntu 6.06 lts binary thingie?
[09:30] <mo0se> i accidentally deleted it.
[09:30] <ROBOd> so, how to set the default language/locale ?
[09:30] <Warbo> acke: Sorry, I've never used Eclipse. I do know that it likes to do it's own thing though, so it may be a problem with Eclipse's config rather than the system's
[09:30] <Jowi> !bug
[09:30] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[09:30] <apikoros> hey, i want to be able to issue "shutdown" , "iwconfig", and "dhclient" from the shell without having to sudo. is there a way to give my ordinary non-root user account permission to do these things?
[09:31] <acke> Warbo no worries it worked now..
[09:31] <Crescendo> Yeah, MySQL failed to start.  "Please take a look at the syslog."  <---- how to look at the 'syslog'?
[09:31] <acke> Warbo was a litle setting i didnt see that i needed to make it work thanks alot
[09:31] <Warbo> acke: np
[09:31] <psyklops> in SuSe there was /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager , is there a similar file in ubuntu?
[09:31] <acke> Warbo appriciate it
[09:31] <mattm591> can anyone help me with my alsa related problem
[09:31] <lee_> Hi, can someone tell me how to install the latest ATI Linux Proprietary Driver?
[09:31] <Warbo> !ati
[09:31] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[09:31] <evert_> hello all
[09:32] <ciaron> Crescendo: you get my msg? i keep getting nick not found here
[09:32] <Crescendo> Ciaron: Yeah, check your email, already sent the invite.
[09:32] <Jowi> apikoros: yes. the /etc/sudoers file is what you have to edit (use the "visudo" command). "man sudoers" for alot of options
[09:32] <Aesop> Does anyone know of a media player that also has a library? Similar to iTunes or WInamp5, I mean
[09:32] <evert_> I'm having a little problem with mplayer ... with all my film players i can see my video's accept for mplayer .. i only hear the sound ... does somebody knows the solution ?
[09:32] <lee_> exit
[09:32] <mo0se> how do i add the ubuntu 6.06 lts (binary) repository?
[09:32] <jighead> Aesop: amarok, rhythmbox
[09:32] <mo0se> i accidentally deleted it.
[09:32] <Aesop> Thanks
[09:32] <Warbo> Aesop: Amarok, Banshee, Rhythmbox
[09:32] <acke> IS there any power saving apps or tips and tricks i can apply to have my notbook run longer when running on battery? (i have about 2,5h battery right now)
[09:33] <protoloco> hello, somebody has installed JasperReport
[09:33] <MrBallZ> h3sp4wn: hey, I just need to install madwifi-ng if you can help with that its cool ...
[09:33] <mattm591> is there anyone here familar with ubuntu and alsa who can gimme some help
[09:33] <Warbo> acke: There is athcool for athlons I think (never used it)
[09:33] <MarcN> The Ubuntu/Dapper desktop install has problems booting for me, but Ubuntu/Dapper server ISO is installing.  What could be the difference causing the problem?
[09:33] <Warbo> acke: Underclocks athlon CPU when it's not fully needed
[09:33] <evert_> I'm having a little problem with mplayer ... with all my film players i can see my video's accept for mplayer .. i only hear the sound ... does somebody knows the solution ?
[09:33] <mo0se> anyone? anyone? :|
[09:33] <TheBigToe> mo0se, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:34] <ciaron> Crescendo: nice one, cheers
[09:34] <mattm591> pretty please :)
[09:34] <Warbo> evert_: You need the right codec. Put it in /usr/lib/codecs for mplayer
[09:34] <TheBigToe> generate a 6.06 one there
[09:34] <Gh0sty> mo0se: see wiki's its all in there i think
[09:34] <Jowi> !tell mo0se about repos
[09:34] <evert_> Hmm i never did that in my prefious ubuntu install
[09:34] <Crescendo> Yeah, MySQL failed to start.  "Please take a look at the syslog."  <---- how to look at the 'syslog'?
[09:34] <chmod775> !repos
[09:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[09:34] <MarcN> Crescendo: tail /var/log/messages
[09:34] <ydnar> what is the software equivalent to daemontools or alcohol120 for linux?
[09:34] <Warbo> evert_: Do you have all of the codec packages installed (w32codecs and stuff) cos they might have it
[09:35] <mattm591> ydnar i think u just type mount then the iso in a terminal
[09:35] <ydnar> oh, thanks mattm
[09:35] <Crescendo> Alright, there's nothing in /var/log/messages about mysql... why didn't it start?
[09:35] <Warbo> ydnar: Alcohol120 has no equivalent in Linux because it is not needed. The regular system tools can do it all (mount isos and stuff)
[09:35] <apikoros> jowi, thanks
[09:35] <tuxtheslacker> hey, quick questing guys... what is the program that makes your desktop work in 3d panel switching?
[09:35] <Gh0sty> anyone have an idea where i could find more information about dapper + xgl + xine showing black snow on my screen :/
[09:35] <tuxtheslacker> if you know what I mean?
[09:35] <evert_> I ran the easybuntu script .. i think it was included ? because i can play wma's
[09:36] <gnomefreak> Gh0sty, #ubuntu-xgl
[09:36] <jighead> Crescendo: cd /var/log && ls
[09:36] <ciaron> Crescendo: check the /var/log/mysql/ dir, there should be more logs in there
[09:36] <Gh0sty> oh there is a specific channel, thx gnomefreak
[09:36] <Jowi> ydnar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountIso
[09:36] <Warbo> ydnar: to mount an iso "sudo mount /path/to/iso /path/to/mount/point -o loop"
[09:36] <MarcN> Crescendo: check /var/log/mysql/*.err too
[09:36] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker, 3ddesktop?
[09:36] <acke> Warbo im running Intel Centrino mobile
[09:36] <ydnar> thank you all
[09:36] <proxi> #ubuntu-es
[09:36] <tmdca> tuxtheslacker: Hello again. I still got probs with my ubuntu... The touchpad looses sync one and a while... You got any idea whats wrong?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker, xgl/compiz?
[09:36] <Warbo> acke: Oh, never mind
[09:36] <Cornellius> Ok, so I have installed some games via Synaptic but when I try to play them it loads, loads and loads to finally stop loading but the game does now launch.
[09:37] <tuxtheslacker> xgl gnomefreak  cuz I don't know what compiz is.
[09:37] <tuxtheslacker> ahhaha!
[09:37] <Cornellius> What could be the cause ?
[09:37] <acke> warbo lol
[09:37] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker, compiz runs xgl
[09:37] <Warbo> Cornellius: What games? (3D, 2D, etc.)
[09:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tuxtheslacker -about xgl
[09:37] <evert_> i have checked , w32 is installed , xine codecs are , gstreamer is , ... I have all codecs ...
[09:37] <mattm591> hello can someone please help me! i need to get alsa libraries and i don't know how :'(
[09:37] <Cornellius> Warbo: Some billard games I got via apt, 3D
[09:37] <Fjodor> acke: powernowd should be installed by default. I don't know if it's configurable, as I uninstalled it
[09:38] <Warbo> evert_: Maybe get some more off Google. MPlayer can handle windows codecs fine
[09:38] <Crescendo> I have mysql-bin.001 through 003, and mysql-bin.index within /var/log/mysql...
[09:38] <Warbo> Cornellius: I would guess it is a 3D driver problem then
[09:38] <ydnar> what is the usual place to mount an iso to?
[09:38] <ydnar> /mnt/?
[09:38] <Jowi> ydnar: /media
[09:39] <ydnar> i see
[09:39] <Cornellius> Warbo: But it does that not only with games. I have the same problems trying to open FrostWire
[09:39] <Warbo> ydnar: Wherever you want. As long as the directory exists
[09:39] <acke> Fjodor yeah i got it dont know how to configure it though
[09:39] <Jowi> ydnar: /mnt will also work but since /media/ is already created that's what i go with
[09:39] <mumbles-workexp> ok has the nvida problmes been fixed?
[09:40] <mattm591> how can i get alsa libraries anyone? pleeease
[09:40] <Warbo> Cornellius: Sorry then (never tried FrostWire, maybe I will later)
[09:40] <mumbles> ie - i install nvida drivers and after i boot and try and login it dosent get any furither than a blank screen ?
[09:40] <Cornellius> Warbo: No biggie
[09:40] <derjur> anyone know why a default install of 6.06 and gaim would have issues connecting to msn?
[09:40] <mumbles> !nvidia
[09:40] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:40] <derjur> are there maybe some restricted libs or something that i have to install?
[09:40] <mattm591> mumbles sounds like youve installed it wrong
[09:40] <LasseL> Here's a little puzzle: How can I run fsck.reiserfs on the / partition of a headless server?
[09:40] <mattm591> !alsa
[09:41] <ubotu> alsa is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[09:41] <gnomefreak> Cornellius, you did install java right?
[09:41] <acke> ANYONE nows how to work powernowd??
[09:41] <mumbles> i did it according to the help th elast time
[09:41] <Warbo> mumbles: That seems less of a problem with nvidia package and more a problem with your X config
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> LasseL: Use a serial console
[09:41] <richiefrich> DShepherd hello
[09:41] <acke> when running a notbook
[09:41] <mumbles> possabley
[09:41] <mattm591> !alsa libraries
[09:41] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mattm591
[09:41] <mumbles> will boot up laptop in a while and restart this one
[09:41] <mattm591> !alsa_libraries
[09:41] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mattm591
[09:41] <mumbles> just need to check e-mails and stuff now
[09:41] <LasseL> h3sp4wn: and if I don't own a serial console
[09:41] <mumbles> make one
[09:41] <Warbo> mumbles: If "sudo modprobe nvidia" gives an error then that may explain it
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> LasseL: Make one
[09:41] <Scorpmoon> how do I put the trashcan on desktop
[09:41] <jighead> acke: install the cpufreq-utils package
[09:42] <mumbles> right restarting
[09:42] <Jowi> mattm591: try !alsa
[09:42] <LasseL> h3sp4wn: enlighten me, how do I do that?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> mattm591, please dont play with the bot and ask us what you need to ask
[09:42] <Warbo> Scorpmoon: Configuration Editor in System Tools (you may need to enable it in Alacarte)
[09:42] <gnomefreak> mattm591, if you are gonna try things use /msg ubotu <factoid>
[09:42] <mattm591> im not trying to play with the bot! and no one seems to know how to help me ive been coming here for the past 2 days trying top get help :(
[09:42] <acke> jighead is that one better? the other one supports 4 modes with more or less control of the processor speed
[09:42] <MarcN> Anyone have a Creative Webcam Live!
[09:42] <MarcN> that works on Dapper?
[09:42] <zenithsN00b> what's the best RSS reader for Ubuntu?
[09:42] <Cornellius> gnomefreak: Used easyubuntu
[09:42] <mattm591> how can i get the alsa libraries?
[09:42] <Jemt> Is it supposed to take 10 minutes to install  'flashplugin-nonfree'  ?
[09:43] <psyklops> how can I configure Ubuntu to run xgl instead of xorg
[09:43] <gnomefreak> mattm591, what is the issue?
[09:43] <psyklops> ?
[09:43] <Warbo> mattm591: Synaptic
[09:43] <LasseL> !xgl
[09:43] <ubotu> well, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[09:43] <mattm591> tied synaptic
[09:43] <mattm591> but i couldn't seem to find what i want
[09:43] <gnomefreak> Cornellius, what does java -version output?
[09:43] <richiefrich> zenithsN00b thunderbird u can
[09:43] <mattm591> i'm trying to install lirc, and when i do it complains with an error saying i need alsa drivers and libraries
[09:43] <richiefrich> zenithsN00b snownews is good too :)
[09:43] <Cornellius> gnomefreak: java version "1.4.2"
[09:43] <Cornellius> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[09:43] <ThePub> I thought gnome had an applet that could tell me my screen specs :(
[09:44] <zenithsN00b> richiefrich, snownews is under addprograms?
[09:44] <ThePub> ah, there it is.. I'm blind :p
[09:44] <blind> I'm ThePub :p
[09:44] <jighead> acke: sorry, that's bad advice, unless you want to manually fool with your stepping
[09:44] <gnomefreak> Cornellius, sudo update-alternatives --config java   (choose the java that you installed
[09:44] <Warbo> mattm591: search for ALSA in Synaptic and install as many "-dev" packages as seems sensible
[09:44] <jighead> acke: what problems are you having with powernowd?
[09:44] <eXistenZ> Is there a ff acrobat reader plugin?
[09:44] <richiefrich> zenithsN00b hmm i dont really know
[09:44] <mattm591> Warbo ok ill give it a whirl
[09:44] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ, acroread
[09:44] <richiefrich> zenithsN00b  i think so
[09:44] <h3sp4wn> LasseL: Buy a modem cable which you can rearrange the pins on at a minimum transmit and receive must be crossed over - uncomment #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100 from /etc/inittab connect with minicom or cu
[09:44] <Scorpmoon> Warbo, could you give me more pointers what to set in Configuration editor?
[09:45] <zenithsN00b> Ok, cool I'll check it out thanks richiefrich
[09:45] <drake-drugskill> hi, can someone tell me how i can get ubuntu to work with my dual monitor setup im using off my radeon 9550
[09:45] <whitesuit> hi, where can i configure the PATH variable in dapper? /etc/profile is empy :-/
[09:45] <richiefrich> zenithsN00b  np
[09:45] <theD3viL> how to set when monitor goes off, in gnome-screensaver?
[09:45] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, I installed acroread, but it doesn't make acrobat reader integrated into ff.
[09:45] <Warbo> Scorpmoon: apps>nautilus>desktop>show_trash
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> LasseL: If you have any serial to serial cable even if its molded you can just resolder the wires
[09:45] <ThePub> drake-drugskill, search for xinerama on the wiki -- there's a great guide
[09:45] <drake-drugskill> kthx
[09:46] <richiefrich> theD3viL  i think iirc theres 3 tabs
[09:46] <mexiko> hola
[09:46] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ, im not on my ubuntu box atm but i would apt-cache search acroread it should pull up like 5 or 6 items
[09:46] <theD3viL> richiefrich: nope
[09:46] <LasseL> h3sp4wn: ugh! I think it will be less work to drag a monitor and a keyboard up to the attic then :)
[09:46] <mattm591> Warbo, i instellaed alla the different alsa devs i could find (although there aren't many) and i still get the error
[09:46] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, on windows? :)
[09:46] <Jowi> mattm591: the alsa libs are named libasound
[09:46] <theD3viL> richiefrich: not xscreensaver
[09:47] <richiefrich> theD3viL  then i havent used it in a long time
[09:47] <acke> jighead yeah i never used any of them.. so im just seeking some advice. im not good enough to play with them manually i think
[09:47] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ, yeah im working on a major project in windows atm
[09:47] <theD3viL> richiefrich: :) k tnx anyway
[09:47] <h3sp4wn> LasseL: I thought it had no video card
[09:47] <unholyterrorsme> hi
[09:47] <mattm591> Jowi, i have libasound2 and libasound2-dev both installed, so why is this stupid lirc setup  complaining i dont?
[09:47] <richiefrich> theD3viL  np
[09:47] <Jemt> Can anyone get  'apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'  to work ? Nothing happens after it starts downloading the flash plugin from Macromedia.
[09:47] <Warbo> mattm591: Do you have libasound2-dev and linux-sound-base?
[09:47] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, How do you sync your bookmarks between windows and linux?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ, i dont ;)
[09:47] <LasseL> h3sp4wn: i does, it is just not easy to get to
[09:47] <mattm591> Warbo yes and yes
[09:47] <protoloco> hello, somebody has installed JasperReport
[09:47] <ThePub> Anyone else get random locks after upgrading to dapper? :(
[09:47] <Warbo> mattm591: Hmmm.......
[09:47] <whitesuit> no one knows about the PATH variable?
[09:47] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, Where do you keep your bookmarks then?
[09:48] <mattm591> Warbo hmm is right :p
[09:48] <Jemt> ThePub: Locks ?
[09:48] <linuxboy> whitesuit: what about it?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ, i dont use windows much this is something im doing for a friend that is gonna owe me her life if i figure it out
[09:48] <anfangs> eXistenZ: de.licio.us?
[09:48] <gavagai> whitesuit, if your shell is bash you can edit ~/.bash_profile
[09:48] <ThePub> Jemt, yeah, whole machine hard locks and have to restart
[09:48] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ, there are apps that will help you do that
[09:48] <Jowi> mattm591: did you install lirc from synaptic or are you compiling it yourself?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> i thought
[09:48] <Warbo> whitesuit: $PATH is usually /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin and /usr/games
[09:48] <gavagai> whitesuit, then start a new terminal session to make it take effect, or do:  . .bash_profile
[09:48] <gnomefreak> brb pos is beeping at me
[09:48] <Jemt> ThePub: yep, I've tryed that twice now (been running Dapper for two days).
[09:48] <LasseL> h3sp4wn: do you think I can unmount / and remount it as read-only via ssh?
[09:49] <mattm591> Jovi, i tried through synaptic but it doesn;t work with my remote that way so then i was lookig for wikis on how to do it and they sugget compiling it as you can then do it for your own receiver
[09:49] <lilbit> does anyone here use swat?
[09:49] <Warbo> LasseL: You can remount it (--remount)
[09:49] <TheBigToe> should I use gdm or kdm for kde's desktop manager?
[09:49] <Jemt> ThePub: 1. time Mozilla-Thunderbird crashed.  2. time MPlayer switched to a resolution my monitor could not display, and I was not able to switch to the console
[09:49] <drake-drugskill> uh ok thanks for the first info, but im not sure where to get me the drivers for my ati card in ubuntu
[09:49] <mumbles_laptop> who was helping e erilier ?
[09:49] <bubba> www.getautomatix.com will install nVidia drivers for ya
[09:49] <whitesuit> gavagai, i did a export to add something to the path..now i want to take it out, but i can't seem to find the file that has the thing i added
[09:49] <Jowi> mattm591: ah. i've never compiled lirc
[09:49] <anfangs> nly when the skeeters are gettin on me
[09:49] <dmb062082> hey I posted my xserver-xorg config that works fine with fedora... can anyone tell me if it will work fine with ubuntu? I  posted it here, http://6toe.com/plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?790.last
[09:49] <gavagai> whitesuit, that is not in a file
[09:49] <mattm591> jovi me neither :p
[09:49] <Warbo> !automatix
[09:49] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[09:50] <chavo> TheBigToe, you can use either
[09:50] <dmb062082> does ubuntu have those gfx drivers installed?
[09:50] <gavagai> whitesuit, just start a new terminal session or do another export command for the path you want
[09:50] <mumbles_laptop> !gforce
[09:50] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mumbles_laptop
[09:50] <PsycoEwok> Hey guys, can someone tell me why Synaptic is NOT letting me UNmark a package for removal? :(  I click "unmark" but it just leaves it marked for removal.
[09:50] <mumbles_laptop> !nvidia
[09:50] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:50] <drake-drugskill> nope
[09:50] <mattm591> oh haha i was arguing with a bot earlier when i told ubouto it was wrong about automatix being dangerous :P
[09:50] <dmb062082> nope to me?
[09:50] <whitesuit> gavagai, isn't there a way to undo the export?
[09:50] <drake-drugskill> fresh off the install here and im trying to get everything configured
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> LasseL: I would expect that you would get / is busy
[09:50] <gavagai> i know of no such command as "undo last export"
[09:50] <gavagai> i don't see why you need such either
[09:51] <mattm591> jovi, it asks me to have 1.0.9 or later installed. could it be that as i have 1.0.10 its seeing this as 1.0.1 and thiks my version is too old?
[09:51] <gavagai> your change is not permanent anyway
[09:51] <whitesuit> ok thx
[09:51] <gavagai> you're welcome
[09:51] <[NP] Tangent> quick question: the command to install a package is dpkg -i <filename> ... right?
[09:52] <PsycoEwok> Hey guys, can someone tell me why Synaptic is NOT letting me UNmark a package for removal? :(  I click "unmark" but it just leaves it marked for removal.
[09:52] <Warbo> Can anyone help me with either a) Gish doesn't run, changes my resolution and locks my mouse (have to ctrl-alt-backspace) or b) Qemu isn't creating a network card with -net user turned on and tun/tap is really confusing, so how do I get Qemu online?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> [NP] Tangent, for a deb package its sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[09:52] <evert__> I got a small problem with xine , the 'control' panal isn't there... I can see a bit a silhouet of it ... but it's unusable ... i'm running ubuntu dapper + xgl
[09:52] <[NP] Tangent> alright
[09:52] <Jowi> mattm591: you're asking the wrong person I'm afraid :) maybe there's a lirc channel?
[09:52] <mattm591> psycoewok, cus its picky
[09:52] <[NP] Tangent> thanks, gnomefreak
[09:52] <kbrooks_> Warbo: a: ydunno. b: #qemu
[09:52] <gnomefreak> anytime
[09:52] <mattm591> jowi you'd have thought so, but i couldnt even find an offical forum
[09:52] <PsycoEwok> mattm591, well how do i beat it into submission? :P
[09:52] <Jowi> mattm591: #lirc seem to be it
[09:52] <henriquemaia> Does anyone can point me out (to a site or whatever) how to make nfs shares show up on network servers on gnome?
[09:53] <mattm591> jowi, ok thank you ill try in there
[09:53] <lilbit> I can't get swat working, I'm going to have to go home and beat my family
[09:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell henriquemaia -about nfs
[09:53] <mattm591> psycoewok with a large bat and patience
[09:53] <henriquemaia> Thanks gnomefreak
[09:53] <lilbit> unless someone could help me, then I might go home happy?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> henriquemaia, yw
[09:53] <mumbles_laptop> ok done that nvidia settings but it still isent working
[09:53] <henriquemaia> -about nfs
[09:53] <mumbles_laptop> its crahsed my desktop
[09:53] <evert__> I got a small problem with xine , the 'control' panal isn't there... I can see a bit a silhouet of it ... but it's unusable ... i'm running ubuntu dapper + xgl
[09:53] <lilbit> are there not any mcp's in here?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> henriquemaia, ubotu sent you a pm
[09:53] <frydrycr> join #test
[09:54] <henriquemaia> :)
[09:54] <Warbo> evert__: I know that nvidia drivers don'y have accelerated video under Xgl, which makes Xine work crappy
[09:54] <anfangs> what's a good desktop manager for a comp. with only 64 mb RAM?
[09:54] <PsycoEwok> mattm591, see my problem is that the package CAN'T be removed either, it gives me an error message whenever it tries to remove it. So now it's just stuck there, unable to be removed, and unable for me to tell it to NOT be removed. :(
[09:54] <evert__> how can i get back to normal ubuntu to give it a try ?
[09:54] <evert__> really don't know :P
[09:54] <Warbo> anfangs: Fluxbox, E16, XFCE
[09:54] <mattm591> psycoewok whats the packages name?
[09:54] <evert__> xgl autoboots
[09:55] <drake-drugskill> is it fine to just use the drivers ati provides? will they work well, or is there a better way?
[09:55] <Eleaf> hmm
[09:55] <mattm591> jowi, its like a wild party in lirc, 8 users :O and none has anything to say :P
[09:55] <anfangs> Warbo:thx 4 the tip
[09:55] <PsycoEwok> mattm591, xorg-driver-fglrx :P
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> eXistenZ: vim 7 seems to build and install fine what exactly is it that is better about it than 6.4 ?
[09:55] <Jowi> mattm591: typical :P
[09:55] <Eleaf> I have a laptop and my harddrive keeps spinning down, but I removed laptop-detect and powernowd... ;/ =O
[09:55] <Warbo> evert__: The guide I followed for Xgl made /usr/bin/X link to /usr/bin/Xgl, so putting it back to /usr/bin/Xorg would put it back to normal
[09:55] <Eleaf> What do I do?
[09:55] <mattm591> psycoework, maybe thas because you need to stop x before it can be removed
[09:55] <evert__> I'm in search for a good video player , wich works great under xgl
[09:55] <mattm591> evert__ mplayer
[09:56] <Eleaf> I agree
[09:56] <zenithsN00b> what is it called when you have like a small bar on top of your screen that streams headlines?
[09:56] <PsycoEwok> mattm591, oh :(  not sure how to do that either though (total noob) :(
[09:56] <mattm591> anyone in here happen to be a skilled lirc professional?
[09:56] <Warbo> zenithsN00b: Desklet
[09:56] <evert__> But i'm searching for a player with a 'hidden navigation menu' in fullscreen , wich comes up when moving the mouse ...
[09:56] <zenithsN00b> ok cool thanks Warbo
[09:57] <anfangs> i had never used xorg-driver-glrx for other distros... is that a new ubuntu thing? it worked flawlessly and easily... which was amazing to me
[09:57] <mattm591> psycoewok i cna't remember it either it's a command in terminal like /summink/gdm stop im sure someone else here must know it though :P
[09:57] <Warbo> zenithsN00b: Gdesklets and SuperKaramba are some good deklet engines
[09:57] <zenithsN00b> right on.
[09:57] <t-thing_> How to listen keyboard events? I want to check if wireless button could work and perhaps connect it to a script.
[09:57] <PsycoEwok> mattm591, alright, i'll try looking it up online too, thanks a lot for the help. Hopefully I won't have to bother you again :x
[09:58] <mumbles_laptop> ok how can i change my xcofnig?
[09:58] <mumbles_laptop> or setup xconfig ?
[09:58] <mattm591> psycoewok and hopefully if you do ill have a real answer ;)
[09:58] <evert__> i'm searching for a video player with a 'hidden navigation menu' in fullscreen , wich comes up when moving the mouse ... Xine did the job well (in ubuntu breezy) but doesn't works fine with xgl
[09:58] <lml> My 3com OfficeConnect wireless card does not work under Dapper, it do not appear to be recognised by the hotplug feature
[09:58] <selaiah> IT says Section "Device"   Identifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"   - Instead of my actual card (7800 GTX), in my XORG.conf. you think this is alright ? Or do i need to make additional settings?
[09:58] <Warbo> mumbles_laptop: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:58] <mattm591> evert__ again im sure mplayer does that
[09:58] <bubba> after marking the package for remove click apply at the top
[09:58] <pieter_> learning
[09:58] <captaincopyright> evening, all
[09:58] <Crescendo> Where is the webserver directory?
[09:59] <h3sp4wn> mattm591: Are you trying to compile a later version than is in the dapper repos ?
[09:59] <Warbo> evert__: Mplayer and Totem both do that (although you would not want totem-xine)
[09:59] <mattm591> h3sp4wn of what lirc?
[09:59] <Jowi> Crescendo: the webpage itself is in /var/www, the config files in /etc/apache2
[09:59] <lml> crescendo: my guess is /var/www/ if you have installed apache
[09:59] <h3sp4wn> mattm591: Yep (is that the remote control thing yes ?)
[09:59] <evert__> Mplayer doesn't show me that navigation menu .. .i think it doesn't works good under xgl
[10:00] <tmdca>  Hello again. I still got probs with my ubuntu... The touchpad looses sync one and a while... You got any idea whats wrong? (dell latitude c600)
[10:00] <Scorpmoon> how do I make "Applications - Places - System" take up less space in the pane? Btw. "Places" are not to be found in Alcarte Menu Editor
[10:00] <Scorpmoon> and why can't I put System under Applications?
[10:00] <mattm591> h3sp4wn yeah it is and im not really sure im just doing the latest one from the lirc site cus the one in synaptic doesnt seem to have worked and if it does i have no idea how to configure it for my remote reciever and remote so i thought id try following a wiki instead
[10:00] <Warbo> evert__: OK (menu usually comes up at the bottom-centre with the old default skin)
[10:00] <evert__> Really can't see it , strange
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> mattm591: Have you thought of backporting the sid packages ?
[10:00] <MarcN> Cool! Creative WebCam Live! works out of the box.  No kernel building
[10:00] <mattm591> h3sp4wn, i might have if i knew what that meant
[10:01] <Scorpmoon> puhlease how do I configurate the Applications - Places - System pane
[10:01] <Warbo> MarcN: My webcam didn't work, but it also has no name or manufacturer info. Luckily after I lent it to someone he gave me the wrong one back. I'm happy with my SamsungAnyCam now, works like a charm :)
[10:02] <mattm591> scorpmoon try right clciking on the panel and choosing properties
[10:02] <mattm591> h3sp4wn so what does that do and how does it help? :)
[10:02] <PsycoEwok> mattm591, I found the command to stop X. So just fyi, it's: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:02] <PsycoEwok> :)
[10:03] <Scorpmoon> ehm I have to edit the placement of those 3 in Alcarte
[10:03] <Scorpmoon> properties has none for that
[10:03] <Jemt> Can anyone get   'flashplugin-nonfree'   from repositories to work ?
[10:03] <KenSentMe> Jemt: what is the problem?
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> mattm591: I don't know whether it does help because the the debian sid source package requires  libasound2 (> 1.0.11) (dapper has 1.0.10)
[10:03] <mumbles_laptop> anyone got defult settings for an vidia geforce 6200 ?
[10:03] <Jemt> KenSentMe: It is supposed to fetch Flash Player from Macromedia, but nothing happens. It seems to have stalled
[10:03] <mattm591> h3sp4wn, ok have you ever managed to compile lirc before?
[10:04] <Administrator_> Anyone know a FREE e-mail to fax service
[10:04] <KenSentMe> Jemt: i've had that once and i had to change the server where it downloads the flash player from
[10:04] <Exussum> hey all - how can i start ubuntu without starting X ?
[10:04] <Jemt> KenSentMe: Oh, thanks - worth a try :)
[10:04] <mattm591> exussum not if you want a picture
[10:04] <bubba> MarcN I have a creative cam what app do u use to run it
[10:05] <Jemt> KenSentMe: I refer to the repositories when you say "server", right?
[10:05] <Exussum> matt - i want to get rid of it to install the nvidai drivers
[10:05] <Exussum> nvidia*
[10:05] <KenSentMe> Jemt: no, i was talking about the macromedia download server
[10:05] <vgoltser> hi all
[10:05] <MarcN> bubba: There are a bunch.  Try camorama or camstream or camgrab  (hint:   try     apt-cache search webcam      to find packages)
[10:05] <Jemt> KenSentMe: How can you change that ?
[10:05] <KenSentMe> Jemt: one moment
[10:05] <Jemt> Thanks
[10:05] <mattm591> exussum, ah well then you just need to stop it using the command  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (after leaving x by poressing ctrl+alt+f1) but unles su know what ur doing why not use an automated script to install nvidia drivers
[10:06] <Exussum> i broke X so it woudnt start - but then i had to fix X after - which took over the nvidia
[10:06] <slavik> anyone have a port 80 proxy that I can use to connect to irc?
[10:06] <Jowi> Exussum: there are different ways. you can make your own init:remove the gdm entry from (for example) /etc/rc3.d and edit inittab to start "3" instead of the default "2". that way you have a session without X whenever you want
[10:06] <slavik> anyone?
[10:06] <bubba> Marchn thx for the tip :)
[10:06] <Exussum> thank you <3 lol
[10:08] <slavik> ralink card arriving today :D
[10:08] <mumbles_laptop> ok i have done the xorg config twice now
[10:08] <dra> is it possible to use the default plain old-style x cursors in ubuntu?
[10:09] <dra> I'm having problems here with cursors and blender and nvidia
[10:09] <Aesop> So, how well does the automatic upgrade to Dapper work?
[10:09] <KenSentMe> Jemt: it just seems to work here
[10:09] <mumbles_laptop> i get a XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection rest by peer) on X server":0.0" after0 requests (0 know  processed) with 0 events remaining
[10:09] <mumbles_laptop> anyone know what ive done worng ?
[10:09] <Aesop> Should I be worried about anything?
[10:09] <Aesop> Besides reinstalling the nvidia drivers, noticed it was dropping those...
[10:09] <Jemt> KenSentMe: Hm, bugger. Nothing happens here. Oh well :(
[10:09] <__mikem> Hey, I am trying to change my screen resolution to 1280x1024 by modifying the xorg.conf file, but when I restart X it still runs at 1024x768
[10:09] <Jemt> KenSentMe: Thanks anyways :)
[10:09] <shadeofgrey> okay guys and gals i need help
[10:10] <shadeofgrey> it seems that the procedure for installing nvidia drivers and thus full 3d support has changwed sokmehow
[10:10] <iNiku> __mikem: what did you change?
[10:10] <iNiku> __mikem: pastebin your xorg.conf
[10:10] <Beta_M> hello, i have a problem with skype, under ubuntu. for some reason the recording is done not only on the mic but also on the output line, so the person i'm talking to can hear the echo of oneself
[10:10] <syllogism> is there any tools under ubuntu that I could use to examine memory dumps from windows?
[10:10] <shadeofgrey> i tried using the old method and screwed my xorg.conf to hell
[10:10] <__mikem> whats the pastebin url for this chanel again, its been a while
[10:10] <iNiku> !tell __mikem about paste
[10:10] <inrelief> Aesop, pretty damn well, provided you aren't using the ndis wrapper
[10:10] <pablo--mvd> hi! ive downloaed 6.06 iso .. how can i upgrade my 5.10 system?
[10:10] <shadeofgrey> i had to do a complete reinstall annd id like to try and prevent that this time around
[10:10] <KenSentMe> Jemt: i remember changing the download url for the plugin, but i can't remember where to change it
[10:11] <slavik> guys, I need a proxy server so I can use gaim to connect to irc ...
[10:11] <nysosym> hi all
[10:11] <Jemt> KenSentMe: Ok, I'll look into that :)
[10:11] <shadeofgrey> does anybody here have 5 minutes, the patience, and the knowhow to get this dione quickly and effectively?
[10:11] <h3sp4wn> mattm591: I have just managed to build lirc 0.8.0-4 from debian sid seemed to build ok but there was a few warnings
[10:11] <t-thing_> shadeofgrey: to do what? Just ask your question.
[10:11] <shadeofgrey> how do i install the nvidia drivers under dapper?
[10:12] <KenSentMe> how can i change the colors etc of my terminal client?
[10:12] <shadeofgrey> isnt it just apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[10:12] <tritium> !nvidia
[10:12] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:12] <KenSentMe> i'm on irssi now and it looks horrible
[10:12] <mattm591> h3sp4wn, what hardware did you choose because im using the usb one and i dont get errors with others
[10:12] <shadeofgrey> and then nvidia-glx-config enable?
[10:12] <tritium> same process for dapper as before
[10:12] <t-thing_> shadeofgrey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:12] <t-thing_> oh, tritium was way ahead of me
[10:12] <mumbles_laptop>  ok dose anyone know how i can get my moniter settings right?
[10:12] <mattm591> h3sp4wn, driver alsa_usb
[10:13] <h3sp4wn> mattm591: I have never used it I just tested whether I could compile it
[10:13] <mattm591> h3sp4wn but could you compi;e using that drivrer?
[10:13] <mumbles_laptop> someone else with nvidia card settings ?
[10:13] <__mikem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15257
[10:13] <evert__> what's the easyest way to use a second monitor 'on the fly' ?
[10:13] <iNiku> mumbles_laptop: what's your problem?
[10:13] <dra> is it possible to use the default plain old-style x cursors in ubuntu?
[10:13] <dra> I'm having problems here with cursors and blender and nvidia
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> mattm591: I have liblircclient-dev_0.8.0-4_i386.deb  lirc-modules-source_0.8.0-4_all.deb  lirc-x_0.8.0-4_i386.deb liblircclient0_0.8.0-4_i386.deb lirc-svga_0.8.0-4_i386.deb lirc_0.8.0-4_i386.deb
[10:14] <mumbles_laptop> iNiku, well ive done all the stuff in the wiki but when i start x my comptuer crashes
[10:14] <winbond> does anyone know a guide to fix "x server failed to star"???
[10:14] <iNiku> __mikem: ok, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what it recognizes as valid modes for your graphics card + display combo
[10:14] <mumbles_laptop> i get a XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection rest by peer) on X server":0.0" after0 requests (0 know  processed) with 0 events remaining
[10:14] <iNiku> __mikem: or, pastebin that, too
[10:14] <mumbles_laptop> and i got that the last time i changed the settings from defult
[10:14] <__mikem> the changes I made worked in 5.01
[10:14] <seriouslycgi> i was wondering if i could get some help installing a chm viewer?
[10:15] <__mikem> But ok
[10:15] <mattm591> h3sp4wn, maybe your doing something different from me. i run ./configure and then get a blue screen with options. first i choose driver configuration and i choose the usb_alsa one (which is the one i also cant compile) and then i choose save config and run config
[10:15] <synap> does any of you know what kidn of projects are going on to improve the linux boot time ?
[10:15] <winbond> does anyone know a guide to fix "x server failed to star"???  ati card
[10:15] <Exussum> winbond - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:15] <iNiku> mumbles_laptop: ok, sorry, no ideas then
[10:15] <Exussum> Run that
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> mattm591: I just built it using apt-get source lirc (from debian sid's repository)
[10:15] <__mikem> Can you tell me what the name of that file is again, I am using a text based irc client and it scroled of the screen
[10:15] <evert__> what's the easyest way to use a second monitor 'on the fly' ?
[10:16] <iNiku> __mikem: the refresh rates in your monitor section look kinda low, what kinda display are you using?
[10:16] <mumbles_laptop> Exussum,   that doset work for me
[10:16] <lml> Any experts in getting an prism54 based wifi card working?
[10:16] <mumbles_laptop> how do i add sorces via command line?
[10:16] <mattm591> h3sp4wn, oh i see. well yeah i tried using the stuff in synaptic but the problem is you cant choose what device its built for so it does the default and wont work. could you try building from source for me, see if it wrks for you
[10:16] <__mikem> I am using a 20 inch lcd flat screen
[10:16] <iNiku> __mikem: pageup/down might work for scrolling, or esc-p/esc-n
[10:16] <mumbles_laptop> i want to install joe becouse i cant use vi :p
[10:16] <iNiku> __mikem: but it's /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> mattm591: I did build from source
[10:16] <Exussum> mumbles - what happens when you run that cammand ?
[10:17] <iNiku> __mikem: oh, okay then. 20 inch with 1280x1024?
[10:17] <mattm591> h3sp4wn, from the files offa the lirc site?
[10:17] <flo_> there is any repo wher i can find this lib. :libQt3Support_debug.so.4 ?
[10:17] <iNiku> __mikem: aren't most 20" lcds 1600x1200? mine is...
[10:17] <h3sp4wn> mattm591: No from the latest version that is in debian unstable
[10:17] <__mikem> Mine is capable of it, but I don't use it
[10:17] <iNiku> __mikem: hmm, doesn't it get fuzzy when you don't use it at the native res?
[10:17] <seriouslycgi> how do i install something if i get errors from older software?
[10:17] <h3sp4wn> mattm591:Against the dapper libraries
[10:18] <iNiku> __mikem: why on earth would you want to use a non-native res on an lcd?
[10:18] <mattm591> could u try from the files on the lirc site, dl the tar gz and try a ./configure (must be as sudo) to see if u can use that
[10:18] <psyklops> The message I just got goes something like this: "The NVidia kernel modules version is 123. THIS modules version is 124." and it failed to load it. Where is it getting these different versions to compare?
[10:18] <__mikem> It is also capable of 1280x1024 and yes it is very fuzzy
[10:18] <winbond> exussum, i did that once but it still fails to start,
[10:18] <__mikem> THe native res of this thing is 1280x1024
[10:18] <Exussum> Wht graphics card do you have ?
[10:18] <mumbles_laptop> nvidia geforce 6200 ?
[10:18] <__mikem> I don't know why it isn't 1600x1280
[10:18] <iNiku> __mikem: um, are you sure?
[10:18] <Aesop> inrelief, thanks. That makes me feel a lot better about using it
[10:18] <mumbles_laptop> oh that wasent to me
[10:18] <__mikem> I am positive
[10:18] <iNiku> __mikem: I thought all 20" lcds are 1600x1200
[10:18] <iNiku> __mikem: but I guess not, then
[10:18] <mumbles_laptop> but thats what ive got and i cant get it to work
[10:18] <Exussum> mumbles - that should work with dapper - it didnt on Breezy
[10:19] <psyklops> anyone?
[10:19] <__mikem> It might be a 17 inch, I can't remember
[10:19] <nysosym> alle in diesem Channel erhalten TOT DURCH SNU SNU!!! :D
[10:19] <mumbles_laptop> i had it find on breezy
[10:19] <tomas3_> What am i missing when xine and other mediaplayers refuses to play videos with mpeg 2/3 layer audio?
[10:19] <iNiku> __mikem: anyway, lcds should always be used at their native res... but I guess you know that
[10:19] <__doc__> hi, when I associated a file-type with mozilla to a programm, how do I change that later (dapper)
[10:19] <__doc__> ?
[10:19] <winbond> x850xt ati pcie ,using digital out
[10:19] <iNiku> __mikem: okay, or even a 19"... those are all 1280x1024
[10:19] <iNiku> __mikem: that would explain it
[10:19] <mattm591> __doc__ system => administration => software properties
[10:19] <__mikem> Ok, so anyway, I am about to paste bin that file to you hold on
[10:20] <mumbles_laptop> arrgh - im about to chuck ubuntu off this machene
[10:20] <mattm591> mumbles_laptop whys that
[10:20] <winbond> exsuusum x850xt ati pcie ,using digital out
[10:20] <__doc__> mattm591: hm, so the dialog opens software preferences, and now?
[10:20] <evert__> how can i see cpu load in console ?
[10:20] <inrelief> Aesop, np
[10:20] <mumbles_laptop> still cant get into command line
[10:20] <psyklops> mumbles_laptop: yeah, I'm about to go Debian myself
[10:20] <Jowi> evert__: "top"
[10:20] <__doc__> mattm591: installation media, internet updates, authentication?
[10:21] <mattm591> __doc__ ooops, sorry wrong thing
[10:21] <mumbles_laptop> erm not command line - x even
[10:21] <mattm591> __doc__ one moment
[10:21] <evert__> damned , xgl is taking 30+ % cpu ? is that normal ?
[10:21] <mattm591> __doc__ system => preferences => prefered apps
[10:21] <__mikem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15259
[10:21] <psyklops> evert__: what's your CPU?
[10:21] <evert__> amd 3500+
[10:21] <psyklops> no, not normal
[10:21] <tomas3_> anyone?
[10:22] <psyklops> in fact, mine was at 0% usually...
[10:22] <LeaChim> mumbles_laptop, what's your problem with X?
[10:22] <__mikem> The fact is, when I was using breezy, I was able to run it at 1280x1024
[10:22] <winbond> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[10:22] <ajeeb> Whats the tool/Gnome to mount SMB/Widnows shares?
[10:22] <ThePub> Sound works, but any pointers on where to go to listen to sound coming in on line-in?
[10:22] <psyklops> evert__: you're not using any effects?
[10:22] <__doc__> mattm591: yeah there I can set preffered apps, but I associated *.pls with mozilla to play with rythmbox, and I'm not happy with that.
[10:22] <Hamppari> hello, is there a way I could install ubuntu clean through internet ? I dont have any blank CD's atm :D
[10:22] <LeaChim> evert__, i'm running XGL and i'm at around 5%
[10:22] <JDStone> i'm getting these weird errors when compiling a new kernel from kernel.org.  Here are the errors: /boot/config-2.6.12-9-386:3218:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLUSTER_CMIRROR, among other similar errors.  And: akefile:476: .config: No such file or directory
[10:22] <evert__> mine is 5-20% when i'm doing nothing and when blobbing things with xgl it's 30-60%
[10:23] <__doc__> mattm591: rythmbox is a piece of crap, it can't play most shoutcast radio stations
[10:23] <Jowi> ThePub: crank up the line in volume for the soundcard should do it
[10:23] <rashkae> Where/how should I report some critical bugs with Daper Install?
[10:23] <winbond> excusuum , did u say anything to me?
[10:23] <mattm591> __doc__ and your telling me this becauseeee
[10:23] <ThePub> Jowi, you'd think :D
[10:23] <danl> Ok, I am having a problem with X, I installed some new fonts through synaptic, when i restarted my computer, X will not start
[10:23] <winbond> about the x850
[10:23] <__mikem> iNiku did you get the link
[10:23] <__doc__> mattm591: so I installed xmms, but now how do I reassociate
[10:23] <slavik> rash, launchpad
[10:23] <scifi> can anyone confirm whether k3d works under xfce or not ?
[10:23] <h3sp4wn> slavik: squid is not that bad to setup
[10:23] <psyklops> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7174, but
[10:23] <psyklops> this X module has the version 1.0-8762.  Please make sure that the kernel
[10:23] <psyklops> module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[10:23] <scabootssca> is there any tools to make my ntfs filesystem change to a fat32 so i can change it from ubuntu?
[10:23] <mattm591> __doc__ ah good question,l id like to know hiow too. sadly you cant do taht through there thats just for stuff like web browser and emaill
[10:23] <don-o> rhythmbox did indeed suck but the latest version works well for any mp3 stream i try.
[10:23] <mike__> hi guys, i finally setup my ubuntu pc using only my television as a display, and after i installed the ati fglrx driver, and checking with fglrxinfo. im getting this error...    http://pastebin.ca/63028
[10:23] <psyklops> so, where do I look to "make sure they're all the same version"?
[10:23] <rashkae> slavik, Launchpad? Can you elaborate?? I don't have Ubuntu up and actually running yet.
[10:24] <iNiku> __mikem: you could try increasing the HorizSync range in your monitor section
[10:24] <slavik> h3, I need an existing proxy server that I can use ... not a daemon ...
[10:24] <Jowi> ThePub: yep. :)
[10:24] <__doc__> don-o: so like apt-get update ryhtmobx?
[10:24] <slavik> because my system is blocked on irc ports ... so I need a proxy to use for IRC
[10:24] <__mikem> Unfortunately, I have no idea how to configure that section. I never had to
[10:24] <winbond> it sais that card is at 0 0 but then it sais 0 0 no card found or something like that
[10:24] <iNiku> __mikem: this is why it's refusing to use 1280x1024: (II) VMWARE(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)
[10:24] <Jowi> ThePub: might be good to "unmute" it as well
[10:24] <don-o> __doc__: apt-get update; apt-get install rhythmbox; is how i would do it.
[10:24] <wes> mlow
[10:24] <ThePub> Jowi, idk if it's confused or not.  it's all unmuted but the audigy sound doesn't appear to be working at all
[10:24] <wes> mlowe*
[10:24] <__mikem> iNiku, what would I set it to
[10:25] <ThePub> Jowi, ok that isn't totally true.  it works for gnome stuff, gaim, etc.  but I have no 'capture' tab for the audigy card
[10:25] <wes> yo mlowe?
[10:25] <NinjaPlimsoles> hey, having a major problem with Ubintu
[10:25] <NinjaPlimsoles> Ubuntu*
[10:25] <Exussum> any one know why Ubuntu shows my processer as a 1 Ghz - when its a 2.2 Dual core AMD ?
[10:25] <tomas3_> What am i missing when xine and other mediaplayers refuses to play videos with mpeg 2/3 layer audio?? i assume i am missing just a codec, but i do not know which one..
[10:25] <tomas3_> sound works fine in for example vlc
[10:25] <tomas3_> but not in any of the other players
[10:25] <__doc__> don-o: didn't do anything
[10:25] <h3sp4wn> tomas3: libxine-extracodecs
[10:25] <LeaChim> NinjaPlimsoles, well, say what it is? :P
[10:25] <__mikem> what do I need to set it to
[10:25] <slavik> does X support interplaced LCD displays?
[10:25] <tomas3_> h3sp4wn, thank you
[10:25] <iNiku> __mikem: can't bother doing the math now but I would try HorizSync 28-100 or something
[10:25] <rashkae> Exussum,  Freqency scalling, your CPU slows down when its not under load
[10:25] <NinjaPlimsoles> when i boot the install CD, my optical mouse turns itself off
[10:26] <__mikem> ok
[10:26] <jighead> Exussum: powernowd has it scaled down to save energy
[10:26] <__mikem> hold on
[10:26] <__doc__> don-o: so still rythmbox for instance doesn't play aac+ streams from di.fm (it makes them crash)
[10:26] <NinjaPlimsoles> PS/2 mouse, Gigabyte brand
[10:26] <iNiku> __mikem: it shouldn't hurt
[10:26] <__mikem> brb
[10:26] <mumbles_laptop> ok how do i save using vi ?
[10:26] <LeaChim> NinjaPlimsoles, isn't the installer text based?
[10:26] <slavik> :wq
[10:26] <NinjaPlimsoles> it is indeed!
[10:26] <NinjaPlimsoles> so you tell me :)
[10:26] <slavik> or :w
[10:26] <Jowi> got to go.
[10:26] <don-o> __doc__: oh i see. i stick with the mp3 streams. what linux app plays aac streams?
[10:26] <rashkae> How can I start the Expert install with Dapper?  There is no boot: prompt I can typ einto
[10:26] <mnk> hi guys - can someone tell me how to install cinelerra?
[10:27] <LeaChim> NinjaPlimsoles, so have you tried installing it and seeing if it works when you actually need it to? it might turn on when there's actually a cursor for it to affect :P
[10:27] <syuusuke> does anyone know how to fix this XGL problem? "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0"."
[10:27] <__doc__> so xmms is better then rhythmbox right, so how do I reassociate the default association of *.pls from rhythmbox to xmms?
[10:27] <mnk> i can't find it in synaptic
[10:27] <tomas3_> h3sp4wn, is there any apt source for that one? dosent seem to be there, even though i have added both dapper multiverse and universe
[10:27] <wes> mlowe
[10:27] <NinjaPlimsoles> Chim, it did this when i had a full install, i removed it about a week ago
[10:27] <NinjaPlimsoles> and was going to reinstall
[10:27] <__doc__> don-o: it's no difference, the mp3 streams crash rythmbox too
[10:27] <NinjaPlimsoles> but its doing it again
[10:27] <Servo888> Anybody know what provides the serial_cs driver? It's an old 2.4.x kernel thing to ship it with pcmcia-cs but with the 2.6 kernel I have no clue where it is
[10:27] <dabbler> when is menu.lst file used?
[10:28] <__mikem> Thanks iNuke that worked
[10:28] <h3sp4wn> tomas3: Its is definately in multiverse
[10:28] <tomas3_> on dapper?
[10:28] <iNiku> __mikem: cool. btw, I'm rather opposed to nukes :P
[10:28] <tomas3_> because i get no such results :\
[10:28] <ompaul> dabbler, it gets read on boot
[10:28] <dabbler> and menu.list?
[10:28] <danl> fatal server error: could not open default font 'cursor'
[10:28] <__mikem> Sorry, yellow on white doesn't show up well
[10:28] <danl> how do i fix that?
[10:28] <wes> anyone know where i can get the corefonts??
[10:28] <__mikem> I must have misread your name
[10:28] <Exussum> Any one have any expericance withnvidia drivers ?
[10:29] <iNiku> __mikem: yeallow? ugh, I can imagine
[10:29] <tritium> wes: msttcorefonts package
[10:29] <iNiku> yellow*
[10:29] <NinjaPlimsoles> LeaChim: No idea? :)
[10:29] <iNiku> __mikem: don't worry :)
[10:29] <tritium> Exussum: what's the issue?
[10:29] <tomas3_> i must add that this is the 64bit version though..
[10:29] <syuusuke> does anyone know how to fix this XGL problem? "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0"."
[10:29] <ompaul> dabbler, there is no such beast in use
[10:29] <wes> where?
[10:29] <__mikem> I am going to see if xchat is already installed.
[10:29] <ompaul> dabbler, .lst is your friend
[10:29] <scifi> is it possible to set the speed that packages are downloaded at for synpatic ??
[10:29] <Exussum> ive installed them - just X takes over - but when i stop X - i get no GUI
[10:29] <__mikem> or if I need to do it
[10:29] <KenSentMe> wes: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[10:29] <ThePub> syuusuke,  I don't know how to 'fix' it, but I remember there being something about that in the wiki
[10:29] <dabbler> i use menu.list in adept ???
[10:30] <NinjaPlimsoles> Anyone know why my optical mouse turns itself off when booting the install disc?
[10:30] <syuusuke> ubuntus wiki?
[10:30] <ompaul> dabbler, all I am is a poor synaptic user - what adept does it keeps to kde
[10:30] <ThePub> syuusuke, yeah, go to the website and click "wiki" :)
[10:30] <dabbler> ah...could be !!
[10:30] <wes> it asks for a password.. what do i put? i put my user password in and nothing happend
[10:31] <Aesop> Hey, how can I make it ask for a DIFFERENT password for sudo?
[10:31] <NinjaPlimsoles> Anyone know why my optical mouse turns itself off when booting the install disc?
[10:31] <syuusuke> i'll give that a try, thanks
[10:31] <LeaChim> NinjaPlimsoles, no. it's PS/2 - so it should always be on :/ no fancy usb stuff. what motherboard do you have?
[10:31] <scabootssca> hey what would i use to change my windows partition from ntfs to fat32?
[10:31] <ompaul> dabbler, but menu is nothing to do with grub which is what menu.lst is all about
[10:31] <mumbles_laptop> ow
[10:31] <wes> ninja, are you using a USB mouse?
[10:31] <KenSentMe> !tell wes about root
[10:31] <ompaul> dabbler, but menu.list even is nothing to do with grub which is what menu.lst is all about
[10:31] <NinjaPlimsoles> nope, PS/2 mouse
[10:31] <don-o> scabootssca: thats impossible
[10:31] <wes> oh, well maybe your mouse is broken? lol
[10:31] <scabootssca> like from windows?
[10:31] <NinjaPlimsoles> and its the mouses fault, not my MOBO, ubuntu worked fine on my old mouse
[10:31] <scabootssca> not linux
[10:31] <NinjaPlimsoles> wes, no smartass comments, this is a serious problem
[10:31] <LeaChim> hmmm
[10:32] <Exussum> scaboota - its impossable to keep the files on them - but possiable to just chnage the File system
[10:32] <LeaChim> what was your old mouse? optical?
[10:32] <NinjaPlimsoles> yup
[10:32] <don-o> scabootssca: copy the data to another drive, reformat original drive with fat32
[10:32] <DjDarkman> hy ,I use kubuntu ,but I like to use gnome commander instead of krusader ,but how do I configure the file type assosiations in gnome commander?
[10:32] <ompaul> scabootssca, please ask in ##windows it is a little offtopic for here
[10:32] <amarokker> Hi, i've been able to install e17, enlightenment-data- but cant get e-utils
[10:32] <NinjaPlimsoles> optical all the way
[10:32] <dabbler> oops...meant sources.list..SORRY!!
[10:32] <wes> lol, i wasnt being smartass.. maybe the mouse IS broken.. its highly possible. hook it up and see if it works on another PC
[10:32] <scabootssca> so i can change it but everything will get erased?
[10:32] <NinjaPlimsoles> it works fine in DSL and Windows
[10:32] <scabootssca> theres a #windows?
[10:32] <scabootssca> k
[10:32] <don-o> scabootssca: you got it.
[10:33] <ompaul> scabootssca, that is offtopic and yes
[10:33] <wes> hmm.....................
[10:33] <slavik> ompaul, ralink card comming today :D
[10:33] <KenSentMe> how can i change the colors etc of my terminal client?
[10:33] <dabbler> as opposed to sources .lst
[10:33] <LeaChim> NinjaPlimsoles, can you pastebin your xorg.conf from DSL, and the output of lsmod?
[10:33] <amarokker> there are some dep-probs- with libmotion0 and some libew0
[10:33] <wubrgamer> i want to make sure that the pdf just downloads and doesn't open in a website, what html do i use ? just wondering, rather urgent
[10:33] <wes> have you tried different mice hooked up to the pc, like roller mice or something like that?
[10:33] <ompaul> dabbler, sources.list is for your repositories
[10:33] <Exussum> but dapper can read and write both NTFS and FAT 32
[10:33] <wubrgamer> WHAT?
[10:33] <dabbler> not sources.lst ?
[10:33] <wubrgamer> it has native ntfs ?
[10:33] <slavik> writing is not recommended
[10:33] <wubrgamer> no way, are you serious?
[10:33] <mumbles_laptop> i still et errors
[10:33] <slavik> writing to ntfs is not recommended
[10:33] <wubrgamer> oh, thank you........thought that sounded weird
[10:34] <don-o> KenSentMe: edit -> Profiles -> Default -> edit -> Colours Tab
[10:34] <ompaul> dabbler,  .list belongs to sources check it out - cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:34] <selaiah> IT says Section "Device"   Identifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"   - Instead of my actual card (nvidia 7800 GTX), in my XORG.conf. you think this is alright ? Or do i need to make additional settings?
[10:35] <__mikem> Whats the name of the xchat package
[10:35] <slavik> selaiah, that's fine
[10:35] <JerKB> is there a gui for setting up ip masquerading?
[10:35] <selaiah> ok thanks slavik ;)
[10:35] <ompaul> slackern, enjoy
[10:35] <slavik> jerk, no, use ifconfig
[10:35] <wes> wes@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mttscorefonts
[10:35] <wes> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:35] <wes> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:35] <wes> wes@ubuntu:~$
[10:35] <wes> thats what i get in terminal
[10:35] <don-o> slavik: ifconfig wont help set up masquerading
[10:35] <slavik> ompaul, I will when I crack a wep network, because people are being greedy with net access ...
[10:35] <ompaul> wes DO NOT PASTE IN THIS CHANNEL thanks, use paste.ubutu-nl.org thanks
[10:36] <slavik> wes, do you have synaptic open?
[10:36] <LeaChim> wes, type ps aux | grep dpkg - is anything else running?
[10:36] <JDStone> i'm getting errors when building a new kernel from kernel.org.  Can someone please help me?
[10:36] <KenSentMe> don-o: thanx
[10:36] <danl> whats the package name for the font 'cursor'
[10:36] <KenSentMe> don-o: irssi chat looks better on a black background
[10:36] <wes> yeah i have synaptic open
[10:36] <slavik> wes, there ya go then
[10:36] <JDStone> the errors are pretty long, so I don't want to post them 'til someone is going to help me
[10:36] <ompaul> wes, you need to close it
[10:36] <wes> mkay
[10:36] <don-o> KenSentMe: green on black forevar!!
[10:36] <JerKB> hmm.  well i guess it's off to the wiki to look for ip masq HOWTOs then.  I've only ever done it once before and I don't remember how
[10:36] <__mikem> it would be nice if ubuntu still used black and white terminals
[10:36] <deadcat> is ubuntu gonna have a booth at linuxworld (sf) this year?
[10:36] <Exussum> How can i uninstall Samba ?
[10:36] <scabootssca> hey is there a link for the new supported devices in drapper?
[10:36] <New2Nix> can anyone suggest a good online resource for someone with no *nix experience to learn?
[10:37] <deadcat> Exussum: apt-get remove samba
[10:37] <wes> ok.. couldnt find the package
[10:37] <KenSentMe> don-o: black on white i don't even see my own name in irssi
[10:37] <slavik> exussum: sudo apt-get remove samba
[10:37] <JDStone> hello!
[10:37] <Trojan_Hors1> hi guys....... i forgot the apt-get command to locally install gcc utils....... help me
[10:37] <deadcat> New2Nix: search for basic unix
[10:37] <Exussum> Thank you
[10:37] <LeoStewart> When I mount my iPod, Rhythmbox opens.  Can anyone tell me how to stop that?
[10:37] <ompaul> deadcat, hand out sudo;s with that :)
[10:37] <don-o> Trojan_Hors1: apt-get install gcc
[10:37] <wes> the package couldnt be found
[10:37] <JDStone> help please
[10:37] <__mikem> thats much better
[10:37] <jameyg> Whenever I open a website in Firefox with a Java applet, it annoyingly closes all Firefox windows. The JRE is installed. How can I get it to work please?
[10:37] <NickGarvey> !java
[10:37] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:37] <ompaul> Trojan_Hors1, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:37] <deadcat> ompaul: lets assume he uses sudo already (=
[10:37] <NickGarvey> jameyg: did you use that guide?
[10:37] <ompaul> deadcat, never assume :-)
[10:37] <judah> Trojan_Hors1: apt-get install build-essential  would be a good idea too.
[10:38] <jameyg> NickGarvey: yes
[10:38] <NickGarvey> jameyg: 32 bit?
[10:38] <Trojan_Hors1> yup thanks ompaul
[10:38] <h3sp4wn> JerkB: All you need to do is add 'post-up /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ath0 -j MASQUERADE' (or whatever interface to the last line in /etc/network/interfaces and uncomment the ip forward line from /etc/sysctl.conf
[10:38] <wes> slavik, no packages found for corefonts
[10:38] <deadcat> judah: sudo DAMMIT!! (=
[10:38] <ompaul> Trojan_Hors1, enjoy
[10:38] <jameyg> NickGarvey: yes, 32 bit
[10:38] <judah> SUDO apt-get install build-essential !!!
[10:38] <[Bart] > hi, I need some help. A friend downloaded ubunto desktop cd and that runs fine. But thats booting from CD. How can he install that then?
[10:38] <judah> ;)
[10:38] <NickGarvey> jameyg: no idea then ;)
[10:38] <deadcat> back to the ubuntu booth at linuxworld
[10:38] <deadcat> judah: there (=
[10:38] <jameyg> NickGarvey: ok thanks anyway
[10:38] <ompaul> judah, lower case even
[10:38] <judah> yeah that.
[10:38] <hmpedersen> I'm gonna log.. May the Penguin be with you all
[10:38] <JerKB> h3sp4wn: thanks :-)
[10:38] <NickGarvey> !tell finntroll about easyubuntu
[10:38] <judah> :%s/SUDO/sudo/g
[10:39] <don-o> judah i like to run X windows as root, so i never need sudo. Ha :)
[10:39] <wes> hellooo??
[10:39] <thedesburrito> anyone have enough time to help a newbie?
[10:39] <NickGarvey> thedesburrito: lay it on me
[10:39] <__mikem> !lart don-o
[10:39] <don-o> thedesburrito: yes if you ask a real question
[10:39] <wes> can someone help me?
[10:39] <JDStone> no, thedeveryone is ignoring me too!
[10:39] <NickGarvey> !anyone
[10:39] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[10:40] <Gitana> im speak spanish
[10:40] <wes> as;dflka;sldkfj
[10:40] <NickGarvey> !es
[10:40] <ompaul> NickGarvey, a classic
[10:40] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:40] <wes> ..
[10:40] <don-o> Gitana: try #ubuntu-es
[10:40] <[Bart] > Gitana : As long that you speak
[10:40] <deadcat> no one going be at linuxworld this year?
[10:40] <KenSentMe> wes: try sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[10:40] <Gitana> ?
[10:40] <KenSentMe> wes: or did you already?
[10:40] <thedesburrito> NickGarvery: I'm currently running the Ubuntu live CD. Im planning on installing it once I get another harddrive. I am planing to dual boot but I would like my external drive to be readable by both OS's. Do I need to make it FAT32?
[10:41] <__mikem> when i saw him go op I thought I did something wrong for a minute
[10:41] <JDStone> i'm getting errors when building a new kernel from kernel.org.
[10:41] <don-o> Gitana: todos hablan epanol on #ubuntu-es
[10:41] <[Bart] > thedesburrito : How do you start that installation ?
[10:41] <don-o> thedesburrito: basically yes. i believe NTFS support is not 100% solid yet.
[10:41] <NickGarvey> thedesburrito: theres a program that will allow windows to read ext2 and ext3
[10:42] <djcabz> don-o: when you say on did you mean en?  ;)
[10:42] <Xylene> how do i stop apt from trying to remove a failed package everything i try to now install something?
[10:42] <Tobberoth> Okey guys, the java SDK is not being nice to me on Ubuntu.. how do I fix it?
[10:42] <NickGarvey> thedesburrito: although fat32 I would say is the better choice so you don't need extra programs
[10:42] <don-o> djcabz: lol. yes.
[10:42] <Tobberoth> javac works, but java doesn't
[10:42] <don-o> djcabz: i speako el spanish muy bien. :)
[10:42] <thedesburrito> NickGarvey: the main reason I want to do it is so that I can share my media across both. So I was thinking of splitting the main drive into  Windows and Linux partitions and then having the external as a format both can read. would that work?
[10:42] <djcabz> don-o, yo tambien,
[10:43] <ompaul> !es
[10:43] <djcabz> or so I wish to believe
[10:43] <mumbles_laptop> argh
[10:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:43] <NickGarvey> thedesburrito: yes, I would highly suggest fat32
[10:43] <mumbles_laptop> ok who wants to walk me though my nvidia card problem ?
[10:43] <Xylene> how do i stop apt from trying to remove a failed package everything i try to now install something?
[10:43] <Tobberoth> burrito, make it fat32, that's what I did
[10:43] <ompaul> folks this is an english language channel
[10:43] <Tobberoth> works great
[10:43] <mumbles_laptop> ive tried both the wiki howto and ubuntuguide
[10:43] <JerKB> h3sp4wn: in /etc/sysctrl.conf do I need to uncomment both ipv4 abd ipv6?
[10:43] <mumbles_laptop> and neither work
[10:43] <thedesburrito> NickGarvey: the externam will most likely come as NTFS, right? so can I use ubuntu to reformat it?
[10:43] <JerKB> *and
[10:43] <djcabz> claro, claro... sorry ompaul ;)
[10:43] <whizbang> how do I remote install xubuntu from ubuntu onto a laptop over a crossover cable?  Is that possible?
[10:43] <Nullified> !ati
[10:43] <ubotu> I guess ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> JerkB: just ipv4 unless you are using ipv6
[10:43] <[Bart] > ubuntu installation documentation SUCKS
[10:43] <JerKB> ok thank you
[10:44] <mnk> can anyone pls tell me of any flash development s/w for ubuntu?
[10:44] <NickGarvey> thedesburrito: yessir, theres some good gui stuff for that
[10:44] <ydnar> how do you install .tar.bz files?
[10:44] <Miyumi> Please don't crucify me for this, but I need to download Internet explorer for part of a job application...
[10:44] <spikeb> [Bart] , how so?
[10:44] <Nullified> /quit
[10:44] <Tobberoth> Anyone who knows how to fix this java compile error?
[10:44] <don-o> ydnar: the files are 'unpacked' rather than installed. use tar zxvf filename.tar.bz to unpack the file
[10:44] <ompaul> mumbles-bnc,   http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/en_GB/hardware.html
[10:44] <Tobberoth> I think the class path is the problem
[10:44] <NickGarvey> !tell thedesburrito about gparted
[10:44] <thedesburrito> NickGarvey: another question about partitions. Would you suggest I install XP first then let Ubunutu deal with the dual boot stuff? If I remember correctly windows is pretty awful at that.
[10:45] <[Bart] > spikeb : there is none. Well, I didnt find how to start the installation form the live cd
[10:45] <Tobberoth> buttiro, definetely
[10:45] <don-o> thedesburrito: yes that is a better way to go.
[10:45] <Gitana> don-o
[10:45] <Gitana> d donde eres
[10:45] <Xylene> how do i stop apt from trying to remove a failed package everything i try to now install something?
[10:45] <Tobberoth> it won't work if you install windows second
[10:45] <jighead> ydnar: that is an archive that you can open with tar zxvf file.tar.bz, once that's open, you have to read the INSTALL or README file to find out how to build it
[10:45] <NickGarvey> thedesburrito: yes yes yes, windows first, linux to clean up the mess ;)
[10:45] <mumbles_laptop> ok i now got this erroer
[10:45] <Gitana> ahahahha
[10:45] <ydnar> thank you
[10:45] <don-o> Gitana: lo siento. espanol is prohibido aqui
[10:45] <mumbles_laptop> fatle server error: no screens found
[10:45] <Tobberoth> however, i suggest you format the fat32 partition in windows.
[10:45] <thedesburrito> NickGarvey: cool... sounds pretty simple... and Im very impressed with ubuntu
[10:45] <mumbles_laptop> when i boot up x
[10:45] <__mikem> howcome rehash doesn't work
[10:45] <NickGarvey> Gitana: va #ubuntu-es
[10:45] <Tobberoth> I did in linux, and windows wouldn't boot
[10:45] <ompaul> __mikem, your not in tcsh
[10:46] <Gitana> ok
[10:46] <Nikotinfahnder> hello
[10:46] <__mikem> whats the bash equivilent
[10:46] <mumbles_laptop> how do i reconfiguer x again ?
[10:46] <nf4> is there a ubuntu hardware room
[10:46] <ThePub> any good gnomeish tv applications?
[10:46] <ompaul> __mikem, there is none, it is there or it is not there - exporting values can help
[10:46] <NickGarvey> !xorg
[10:46] <ubotu> I heard xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[10:46] <ompaul> __mikem, but usually you don't need to
[10:46] <Xylene> is there anyway to fix this, http://pastebin.com/766082
[10:47] <Nikotinfahnder> can anybody help me with upgrading a programm under breezy
[10:47] <don-o> ompaul: it is there or it is not there sounds like do or do not. there is no try. you're getting all yoda-ish :)
[10:47] <spikeb> [Bart] , yeah, the only place i know of that has install docs is the wiki
[10:47] <ompaul> don-o, yoda is a childe
[10:47] <LeaChim> thedesburrito, ubuntu has set up dual boot flawlessly whenever i've needed dual boot. when you install windows it destroys the booting of any other operating system :P
[10:47] <mnk> can anyone pls tell me of any flash development s/w for ubuntu?
[10:47] <tr1gg3r> Xylene: try apt-get upgrade -f
[10:47] <Nikotinfahnder> i want the newest version of f-spot, but i am relativly new to ubuntu and i think i am running in circles here.
[10:47] <ompaul> !reinstall
[10:47] <ubotu> methinks reinstall is renew configuration: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends $package <<followed by >> sudo apt-get install $package
[10:48] <Gitana> because the Spanish prohibits itself here?
[10:48] <noobuntu> Hi all... anyone here with experience /w AMD64 and ubuntu 6.06?
[10:48] <Miyumi> can anyone help me put internet explorer on linux?
[10:48] <don-o> oh thats classic
[10:48] <NickGarvey> !ie
[10:48] <ubotu> it has been said that ie is Ubuntu Ireland #ubuntu-ie
[10:48] <Tobberoth> Guys,  how do I check man java? I gives me the manual to gij, i want the manual to java
[10:48] <ompaul> Gitana, there is a spanish channel so
[10:48] <NickGarvey> oh haha nope
[10:48] <Miyumi> I have to
[10:48] <Crescendo> Miyumi: Why would you want that?
[10:48] <Miyumi> I need the job
[10:48] <Miyumi> and I need ie to do a questionaire online
[10:48] <NickGarvey> Miyumi: there is something for it
[10:48] <Miyumi> k
[10:48] <Tobberoth> i need an argument to give me the exact thing I'm looking for
[10:48] <Miyumi> how?
[10:49] <tr1gg3r> Miyumi: get wine
[10:49] <LeaChim> Miyumi, install wine and run it under that
[10:49] <NickGarvey> !ies4linux
[10:49] <ubotu> NickGarvey: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:49] <Miyumi> i did
[10:49] <NickGarvey> eh
[10:49] <NickGarvey> yeah wine is a better choice though
[10:49] <Miyumi> it told me it couldn't find the internet...
[10:49] <don-o> Miyumi: use the firefox user agent extension to fool the site into thinking you are using IE
[10:49] <noobuntu> Install VMWare Server beta and install Windows 98. ^_^
[10:49] <ompaul> NickGarvey, read what you typed again
[10:49] <LeaChim> !ie4linux
[10:49] <ubotu> LeaChim: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:49] <LeaChim> lol
[10:49] <Gitana> ok
[10:49] <Gitana> bye bye
[10:49] <__mikem> !firefox
[10:49] <NickGarvey> ompaul: ahah there is a site for it, I'm not totally special
[10:49] <mnk> can anyone pls tell me of any flash development s/w for ubuntu?
[10:49] <shadeofgrey> okay guys and gals
[10:49] <noobuntu> Anyone familiar with 6.06 on AMD64?
[10:50] <ompaul> Gitana, you know where the spanish languge channel is?
[10:50] <shadeofgrey> im stumped again
[10:50] <whizbang> is it possible to remote install xubuntu from ubuntu over a crossover cable?
[10:50] <Miyumi> where do I find the user agent extension?
[10:50] <Hamppari> err, so winxp on vmware cant handle hardware like usb devices?
[10:50] <NickGarvey> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html#get
[10:50] <LeaChim> Miyumi, search on the firefox extensions site
[10:50] <Nikotinfahnder> is there a method i can get the newest package of a program in breezy?
[10:50] <ompaul> !install
[10:50] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[10:50] <shadeofgrey> ....isnt every home directory for a given user supposed to come standard with a .fonts directory?
[10:50] <NickGarvey> noobuntu: pick me
[10:50] <Tobberoth> Kinda hard to get help in the channel today hehe
[10:50] <don-o> shadeofgrey: thats news to me.
[10:50] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Woot!
[10:50] <LeaChim> Hamppari, works for me. if i have vmware up when i plug in a usb thing, it takes control instead of linux
[10:50] <tr1gg3r> Nikotinfahnder: apt pinning
[10:50] <ompaul> Tobberoth, what is your question?
[10:51] <Hamppari> LeaChim awesome, maybe now I can get rid of windows partition for good
[10:51] <Pelo> can anyone talk me through finding and installing intel extreme graphic 2 on ubuntu ?
[10:51] <shadeofgrey> well i know that my old installation of ubuntu had hidden .fonts directories in each users home
[10:51] <Tobberoth> ompaul, I get an error when I try to run a .class file i compiled
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Has the expert mode been taken out of the install CD?
[10:51] <thedesburrito> anyone know if there is an easy way to get a persons name to come up in gaim? I was using some other chat and you coul type the first letters of someone's username then TAB through the options. any ideas?
[10:51] <Tobberoth> i have installed sun java5 runtime and SDK
[10:51] <ompaul> !pinning
[10:51] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[10:51] <LeaChim> shadeofgrey, what do you need that directory for?
[10:51] <noobuntu> NickGarvey: I'm having trouble with 3d stuff.  When I try to, for eg, run glxgears, it dies with the error X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[10:51] <ompaul> Tobberoth, that would be a java question I imagine
[10:51] <NickGarvey> thedesburrito: I use gaim, hit tab in irc and thats what happens
[10:51] <mumbles_laptop> ok thats madd
[10:52] <mumbles_laptop> for some reasion i had to install the legacey stuff
[10:52] <KenSentMe> mnk: try here http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[10:52] <NickGarvey> thedesburrito: works fine for me, does it not for you?
[10:52] <Tobberoth> Yes, it's a java question, but it's still an error with ubuntu, on windows could fix it myself
[10:52] <shadeofgrey> Lea:  i just want to migrate 300 meg of fonts from my old xp installation to this wonderful ubuntu installation that only took me three installs to get right
[10:52] <thedesburrito> ompaul: sweet. I guessed I missed that
[10:52] <ompaul> thedesburrito, well now ya know ;-)
[10:52] <mumbles_laptop> who else is having nvida problmes? tryinstalling legacey
[10:52] <noobuntu> I was sniffing around and found something that implies mesa has problems with AMD64.
[10:52] <blaze> hello, what is XGL?
[10:52] <DaSkreech> ompaul: Has teh expert mode been taken out of the install CDs?
[10:52] <KenSentMe> !xgl
[10:52] <ubotu> [xgl]  "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[10:52] <DaSkreech> !XGL
[10:52] <ubotu> I guess xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[10:52] <blaze> 10x to all! :)
[10:52] <KenSentMe> DaSkreech: i win :p
[10:52] <DaSkreech> blaze: :-)
[10:53] <mumbles_laptop> wtf i thought i had installed dapper
[10:53] <DaSkreech> Drat Ken!!
[10:53] <mumbles_laptop> apparentley i havent
[10:53] <blaze> and.. will somebody tell me if fedora core 5 is better than ubuntu
[10:53] <DaSkreech> next time send less limber fingers!
[10:53] <blaze> and something about the subject :)
[10:53] <blaze> please
[10:53] <NickGarvey> blaze: thats an opinion
[10:53] <ompaul> Tobberoth, I consider it a java quesition, java is not a supported platform, it can be installed from multiverse on 6.06 and I know nothing else about it
[10:53] <NickGarvey> blaze: you won't get a straight answer from anyone
[10:53] <Wyred> Me no internet, only janitor, me just wax floors.
[10:53] <don-o> blaze: i can tell you but you have to send me $5
[10:54] <KenSentMe> blaze: try the ubuntu live cd and see for yourself
[10:54] <Tobberoth> ompaul, okey, thanks... how will I get help with it then? I want to use ubuntu mainly to program java so
[10:54] <Tobberoth> it's kinda important to me
[10:54] <don-o> Tobberoth: #java
[10:54] <Tobberoth> I've tried java, said it wasn't a channel..
[10:54] <mehul> blaze, that depends on what you like. both have their own pluses and negatives
[10:54] <blaze> don-o :D
[10:54] <Tobberoth> Hmm, says I need to be identified..
[10:54] <NickGarvey> Tobberoth: its ##java
[10:54] <blaze> what are the negatives of fedora? :)
[10:54] <don-o> Tobberoth: try ##java. there are 209 people in it.
[10:55] <ompaul> !register
[10:55] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:55] <blaze> in common
[10:55] <crimsun> shadeofgrey: no, it hasn't been "done away with". It's just not created by default.
[10:55] <Spec> How do I pipe STDERR to a program?
[10:55] <Tobberoth> how do I register here at freenode?
[10:55] <ompaul> Tobberoth, that is what you want there ^^ up a couple of lines register
[10:55] <nerdzyboy> What is the best grafical
[10:55] <NickGarvey> Spec: its like &> or sometihng weird, wait I'll look it up
[10:55] <mnk> thanks KenSentMe
[10:55] <Spec> Tobberoth: /msg nicksev help
[10:55] <Tobberoth> ok thanks :)
[10:55] <Spec> NickGarvey: yeah, can I pipe that with |?
[10:55] <don-o> Spec: ls 2>&1 | more will put stdout and stderr into the |
[10:55] <Spec> ah, okay
[10:55] <KenSentMe> mnk: no problem
[10:55] <Spec> thanks :)
[10:55] <noobuntu> I appologise if someone answered me and I missed it...  I'm having trouble with glxgears on Ubuntu 6.06 on AMD64.  I get the error:" X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)"
[10:55] <nf4> i cant seem to figure out if I can set my combo drive to burn cd-r's at 48x and dvds at 016x
[10:56] <nerdzyboy> What is the best windows manager? (lowest system requirements)
[10:56] <nf4> it seems to just have one entry for the dvd
[10:56] <shadeofgrey> crimsun:  so all i have to dis create one manually?
[10:56] <nf4> part
[10:56] <noobuntu> nerdzyboy: twm
[10:56] <__mikem> noobuntu it sounds like you don't have enough memory
[10:56] <hedos> What are the differences with ubuntu and kubuntu? Only the KDE environment by default?
[10:56] <don-o> nerdzyboy: twm is the bottom of the requirements barrell
[10:56] <Exussum> How long is dappers support ?
[10:56] <Spec> i was gonna pipe/filter out err, but i might as well just 2>/dev/null :p
[10:56] <noobuntu> It's a 32mb Radeon 7200, and I have a gig of of RAM.
[10:56] <ompaul> nerdzyboy, there are several answers what spec is the machine?
[10:56] <salah> hi. what is the name of the package I have to install for fixing my laptop ACPI?
[10:56] <NickGarvey> hedos: ubuntu is gnome kubuntu is kde
[10:56] <nerdzyboy> twm?
[10:56] <crimsun> shadeofgrey: and yes, all you need to do is create ~/.fonts/, copy the .ttf files over, execute ``sudo fc-cache -f -fv'', and log out and back in
[10:56] <ompaul> Exussum, 3 desktop 5 server
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Exussum: desktop is 3 years and 5years for server iirc
[10:56] <hedos> Ok, thanks NickGarvey.
[10:56] <crimsun> shadeofgrey: sorry, that command would be ``sudo fc-cache -f -v''
[10:57] <nerdzyboy> apt-get install twm?
[10:57] <Exussum> Thanks
[10:57] <noobuntu> nerdzyboy: Ya
[10:57] <DaSkreech> crimsun: Do you know if Expert mode has been taken from the CD?
[10:57] <nerdzyboy> k
[10:57] <nerdzyboy> thanks
[10:57] <__mikem> twm isn't that that low quality terminal window manager
[10:57] <gnomefreak> DaSkreech: it hass not
[10:57] <__mikem> !twm
[10:57] <ubotu> __mikem: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:57] <__mikem> !bad bot
[10:57] <ubotu> __mikem: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:57] <ompaul> nerdzyboy, sudo but it has little functionality
[10:57] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: How do you get to it?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> salah: its ont he alternative cd
[10:57] <NickGarvey> DaSkreech: theres several install cds, maybe you have the wrong one if you don't see that option
[10:57] <__mikem> darn it they took all the fun out of ubuntu
[10:57] <ompaul> __mikem, don't go there
[10:57] <gnomefreak> DaSkreech: atleast it is on my copy
[10:57] <DaSkreech> NickGarvey: It's on the menu choices?
[10:57] <ompaul> };->
[10:57] <noobuntu> Yeah, TWM is the ugliest VM available, but it's low requirements. :)  The next one up would be blackbox, IMO.
[10:58] <__mikem> fluxbox works
[10:58] <spam> Hey guys, Theres something very wrong with the graphics under Ubuntu "Dapper", I'm using the latest ATI drivers but its still very very slow. Any ideas?
[10:58] <noobuntu> that too
[10:58] <Spec> ugliest VM?
[10:58] <nerdzyboy> what's would be better than twm but still require little system req?
[10:58] <shadeofgrey> thanks crimsun
[10:58] <Spec> nerdzyboy: IceWM
[10:58] <shadeofgrey> your the friggin man...
[10:58] <__mikem> nerdzyboy fluxbox
[10:58] <shadeofgrey> my hero!
[10:58] <salah> gnomefreak: anyways, my computer lags and it's VERY slow, maybe it's because DMA is turned on?
[10:58] <tga> I'm having trouble with my Orinoco cards since I upgraded to Dapper.. any idea if it's a known problem?
[10:58] <DaSkreech> noobuntu: tried wiim?
[10:58] <nerdzyboy> I'll look for those
[10:59] <gnomefreak> salah: could be
[10:59] <noobuntu> DaSkreech: Never heard of it.
[10:59] <tga> basically I don't get a link, even though I have the right settings
[10:59] <salah> gnomefreak: anyways, how can I turn it of?
[10:59] <__mikem> DaSkreech do you mean wmii
[10:59] <DaSkreech> noobuntu: http://wwim.de
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell salah about dma
[10:59] <spam> Hey guys, Theres something very wrong with the graphics under Ubuntu "Dapper", I'm using the latest ATI drivers but its still very very slow. Any ideas?
[10:59] <rohan> anyone rec'd the shipit dapper cd's already ?
[10:59] <salah> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:59] <noobuntu> Cute car, but I can't read german. ^_^
[11:00] <gnomefreak> rohan: no i dont think anyone has
[11:00] <ompaul> rohan, it will take 6 to 8 weeks
[11:00] <ZeZu> is dapper now a release not a RC or beta or whatever ?
[11:00] <__mikem> I just sent away for mine today. WHen I sent away for my 5.01 cd it took 2 months
[11:00] <neutrinomass> ZeZu: Was released on 1st June...
[11:00] <Agent> Does anybody know where I can download the Winamp Audio Presents for XMMS?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> ZeZu: dapper was released on june 1st
[11:00] <Some_Person> I need to set up my Onboard Realtek AC97 Sound Card, but can't figure out how. Any ideas?
[11:00] <fuffalo> how long do the ubuntu cd's usually take to arrive in the mail? :)
[11:00] <Miyumi> thank you, that worked
[11:00] <noobuntu> My ATI display is fast enough, but my OopenGL is screwed.
[11:00] <gnomefreak> fuffalo: 6-8 weeks
[11:00] <simonpca> ++
[11:00] <rohan> ompaul: yes, i am not impatient, just curious :)) and want to see the new wallet / artwork of the cd
[11:00] <ZeZu> ok then i can ask my questions in here
[11:00] <ZeZu> ;)
[11:00] <Agent> RadiantFire
[11:01] <Agent> Does anybody know where I can download the Winamp Audio Presents for XMMS?
[11:01] <ZeZu> A: i have a flight beta, synaptic has updated a lot, i imagine its updated me to the current non beta build
[11:01] <ompaul> rohan, its on the download part of the site exactly where I am not sure but you can see it all there
[11:01] <tga> how can I check what kind of WEP my wifi card is using?
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> noobuntu: does fglrx appear in the output of lsmod | grep fglrx
[11:01] <Some_Person> I need to set up my Onboard Realtek AC97 Sound Card, but can't figure out how. Any ideas?
[11:01] <inrelief> tga, WEP is determined by the router
[11:01] <ZeZu> B: I cannot install the proper packages for the nvidia drivers ;|
[11:01] <LeaChim> tga, iwconfig?
[11:01] <NickGarvey> ZeZu: use easyubuntu?
[11:01] <Beta_M> hello, how do i top the output of my soundcard to be it's imput also.
[11:01] <rohan> ompaul: if you find it, please tell me
[11:01] <ZeZu> easyubuntu ?
[11:01] <noobuntu> h3sp4wn: No it doesn't.
[11:02] <NickGarvey> !tell ZeZu about easyubuntu
[11:02] <Agent> ZeZu, Automatix is easier and better
[11:02] <whizbang> what line do I need to add to /etc/apt/sources.list to install these packages:  dnsmasq, atftp, and atftpd?  I'm using Dapper
[11:02] <tga> iwconfig won't tell me if it's 64 or 128 bit encryption
[11:02] <h3sp4wn> noobuntu: Are you using fglrx ?
[11:02] <rohan> Agent: no its not
[11:02] <ompaul> rohan, I am not looking actively www.ubuntu.com/download have a look
[11:02] <noobuntu> h3sp4wn: I'm not using the ATI drivers cause my card is too old.
[11:02] <spikeb> no it is not, Agent.
[11:02] <rohan> !automatix
[11:02] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[11:02] <tim> Has anybody had any problems with Update Manager disapearing from the Admin menu? Or care to help me resolve it.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> ompaul: ill look
[11:02] <mehul> Some_Person, are u using kernel 2.6.12? i had problem with it and my ac97 xound card
[11:02] <noobuntu> h3sp4wn: it's only a 7200
[11:02] <tga> for some reason I can't get a link on any of my Orinoco cards, pci or pcmcia
[11:02] <Some_Person> mehul: yes
[11:02] <Agent> spikeb, I find it easier to use
[11:02] <tga> using the same settings as Breezy
[11:02] <LeaChim> odd
[11:03] <spikeb> well, it might be easier.
[11:03] <Agent> Can someone answer my question, Does anybody know where I can download the Winamp Audio Presents for XMMS?
[11:03] <spikeb> but not better :P
[11:03] <Arthur_> hi all
[11:03] <scabootssca> hey is there a link about new hardware supported by drapper?
[11:03] <Some_Person> mehul: how do i get it working?
[11:03] <mehul> Some_Person, upgrading to kernel 2.6.15 solved my problems. I can get sound properly now
[11:03] <Agent> it's on the XMMS site but I can't find it
[11:03] <__mikem> YOu want to know what I was going through for the last few months. My lap top died, and vmware can't run ubuntu 5 for crap so I was using fedora core 5 (which Ill admit is better than I expected) for the longest time. Now Ubuntu Dapper DRake is finally out, and all I can say so far is red hat has every reason to be scared
[11:03] <Arthur_> i need install java, and im new in ubuntu
[11:03] <NickGarvey> Agent: I don't understand your question
[11:03] <blaze> can somebody help me installing my video drivers from this page: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&Type=3
[11:03] <Some_Person> mehul: how exactly do i do that?
[11:03] <Desh> What is the setting i have to add to the Xserver file in my home folder to control my dpi?
[11:03] <blaze> i'm using Dapper Drake
[11:03] <noobuntu> h3sp4wn: It looks like I'm using the xorg radeon driver.
[11:03] <rohan> also, will the icon of the "Cancel" button ever be changed ? it looks like "Back" rather than cancel, and in gparted "FileSystems" its sooo confusing
[11:03] <NickGarvey> !tell blaze about easy ubuntu
[11:03] <rohan> !tell Arthur_ about java
[11:03] <Agent> NickGarvey, the Audio presents(like rock, rap, hip hop, etc)
[11:04] <NickGarvey> !tell blaze about easyubuntu
[11:04] <NickGarvey> what are presents?
[11:04] <blaze> NickGarvey: easy ubuntu doesn't work
[11:04] <NickGarvey> blaze: no?
[11:04] <h3sp4wn> noobuntu: try sudo modprobe radeon (if it does not complain add radeon to the bottom of /etc/modules
[11:04] <NickGarvey> okie sorry about that
[11:04] <blaze> there are no drivers for VIA VN800
[11:04] <Tobberoth> !tell Tobberoth about java
[11:04] <__mikem> brb
[11:04] <blaze> and even for VIA
[11:04] <Arthur_> i download archive bin i dont now how install
[11:04] <Agent> The audio presents to make it sound different
[11:04] <noobuntu> h3sp4wn: Ok, one sec.  But I think it's already loaded.
[11:04] <Jowi> Some_Person: it should do that automaticly "cat /proc/modules | grep ac97" should give you some results
[11:04] <Hamppari> Can I play Half-Life mods on vmware? I have 512 ram
[11:04] <NickGarvey> Tobberoth: use "/msg ubotu java"
[11:04] <rohan> Arthur_: use make-jpkg
[11:04] <blaze> can somebody help me installing my video drivers from this page: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&Type=3
[11:05] <h3sp4wn> noobuntu: If it is already loaded I don't know what to suggest sorry
[11:05] <Desh> Hamppari: Try Cedega or Wine may work
[11:05] <rohan> Arthur_: but really, its simpler to just use the .deb's from the repo -- /msg ubotu javadebs
[11:05] <Arthur_> how, its my first time in linux
[11:05] <noobuntu> h3sp4wn: Thanks anyway.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> rohan: start here and keep looking if this isnt it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUbuntuLook?highlight=%28ubuntu%29
[11:05] <h3sp4wn> noobuntu: I don't have one of those cards
[11:05] <mehul> Some_Person, download the files from archive.ubuntu.com
[11:05] <gnomefreak> ok off to build stuff
[11:05] <__mikem> you can get cedega for free through cvs
[11:05] <Agent> NickGarvey, Audio Presents make a certain type of music sound better
[11:05] <__mikem> I did it once
[11:05] <NickGarvey> Agent: ah got it
[11:05] <NickGarvey> Agent: yeah never heard of it heh sorry
[11:05] <tr1gg3r> Hamppari: cedega works well, iwas never able to get wine or cvs cedega to play cs:s
[11:06] <Agent> I want to know where I can download the "winamp" presents for XMMS
[11:06] <mehul> Some_Person,  if your net connection is working on ubuntu you can download stright using apt-get
[11:06] <tomas3_> __mikem, but then you have to manually find the directx libs and such for yourself?
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> Agent: presents or presets ?
[11:06] <rohan> ty, gnomefreak
[11:06] <Jemt_> 3rd time Ubuntu Dapper freezes in two days. Hopefully a patch is released soon
[11:06] <Some_Person> mehul: what command?
[11:06] <__mikem> tomas3 no no such catch
[11:06] <Agent> presets
[11:06] <tomas3_> cool
[11:06] <__mikem> It is fully functional.
[11:06] <__mikem> THe only limitation it has is that you must use the commandline
[11:06] <__mikem> to run it
[11:07] <Some_Person> mehul: sudo apt-get ?
[11:07] <Hamppari> tr1gg3r ok, ill consider buying the TG account then :P
[11:08] <LeaChim> Jemt, have you reported what you do to cause it to freeze?
[11:08] <redrumz> jemt using Ati card?
[11:08] <mehul> Some_Person, sudo apt-get install <kernel name>
[11:08] <Some_Person> thanks
[11:08] <Desh> What is the file, I think it may be Xserver, that I need to edit in the home folder to change my dpi?
[11:09] <Desh> And what do I need to add to it to make the dpi a fixed number?
[11:09] <redrumz> damn no Jemt
[11:09] <tr1gg3r> Hamppari: they have a free time limited demo u can try first also
[11:09] <Hamppari> oh
[11:09] <zziizz> hello ubuntu support.
[11:09] <rene> hi guys. I need to advice someone... he just installed ubunmtu 6.06 which apparently comes with 2.6.15. is a 2.6.16 kernel available from ubuntu and if yes, how does he easily update to it? please spelled out if possible. he newbie, I no ubuntu user :-) TIA!
[11:09] <nerdzyboy> How do I install X?
[11:09] <mehul> Some_Person, what processor u have?
[11:09] <ZeZu> what is this easyubuntu going to do that i'm not capable of ?
[11:09] <Hamppari> LeaChim does usb devices that dont work on ubuntu, work on winxp @ vmware ?
[11:09] <tr1gg3r> rene: no
[11:09] <noobuntu> h3sp4wn: It looks like the problem I have may be a bug.  Bug #45318:
[11:09] <ZeZu> if the packages refuse to install in synaptic, how is this script going to magically fix it ?
[11:10] <rene> tr1gg3r: no 2.6.16?
[11:10] <noobuntu> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/45318
[11:10] <__mikem> zziizz: your call is very important to us please continue to hold and the next available representative will be with you shortly
[11:10] <tr1gg3r> rene: correct
[11:10] <rene> tr1gg3r: amazing....
[11:10] <rene> but thanks
[11:10] <__mikem> brb
[11:10] <tr1gg3r> rene: u can compile one from kernel.org if u need it that bad
[11:10] <Some_Person> mehul: AMD Sempron
[11:11] <rene> tr1gg3r: I could, but he couldn't
[11:11] <nerdzyboy> How do I install x?
[11:11] <luis_> 'check for updates' is not available in firefox, even running it with 'gksudo firefox'. how can I update it to 1.5.0.4?
[11:11] <william__> Does anyone know a program similar to Nero Vision so I can transcode avi files to dvd so I can burn it
[11:11] <NoUse> nerdzyboy sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[11:11] <william__> ?
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> whats the best possible wireless card for linux? i will need encryption support and external antenna, scanning every possible feature, am going to admin a wireless network and need to work with commerical clients
[11:11] <Spec> nerdzyboy: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:11] <disinterested_pe> does anyone know if theres any programs to go from wma to mp3?
[11:11] <nerdzyboy> k
[11:11] <nerdzyboy> thanks
[11:11] <Spec> nerdzyboy: err, rather, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:11] <mehul> Some_Person, then download using 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7'
[11:11] <noobuntu> Thanks for the help everyon
[11:11] <noobuntu> e
[11:11] <Some_Person> oh thanks
[11:12] <bubba> blaze what is you OS and MB for intergrated driver for via
[11:12] <Some_Person> samuel@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7
[11:12] <Some_Person> Reading package lists... Done
[11:12] <Some_Person> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:12] <Some_Person> E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> disinterested_pe, yeh mplayer -ao pcm and you get a .wav file, convert that to mp3.. i had a script i used once for ensire albums..
[11:12] <NoUse> Some_Person please don't paste
[11:12] <Some_Person> sorry
[11:12] <mumbles_laptop> !dapper
[11:13] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[11:13] <LeaChim> Hamppari, afaik vmware just takes control totally, so it is exactly as if windows was using it directly
[11:13] <NoUse> Some_Person have you been messing with your sources.list?
[11:13] <LeaChim> Some_Person, are you dapper?
[11:13] <mehul> Some_Person, wait let me see
[11:13] <Some_Person> no, i use Breezy
[11:13] <bubba> Just type in linux-k7 in search in synatix
[11:13] <NoUse> Some_Person thats a dapper kernel
[11:13] <zziizz> i noticed 'mozilla' has been removed, why?
[11:13] <Hamppari> LeaChim ok
[11:14] <chambj> is there a ubuntu noobie chan?
[11:14] <Chousuke> this is it :p
[11:14] <Hamppari> :D
[11:14] <Chousuke> actually, this is for everyone.
[11:14] <chambj> perfect for me!
[11:14] <Some_Person> ok, i found "linux-k7" and "linux-k7-smp"
[11:14] <fredmorcos> hey
[11:14] <rustam>  ? %)
[11:14] <redrumz> !vlc
[11:14] <ubotu> somebody said vlc was a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[11:15] <rohan> is "Ubuntu Lite" official ?
[11:15] <ompaul> !ru
[11:15] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:15] <rustam> thnx
[11:15] <Some_Person> I think I need a fixed sources.list, can anyone paste theirs for me?
[11:15] <Hamppari> vlc has all codecs on the install package ubotu
[11:15] <KenSentMe> !sources.list
[11:15] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:15] <valehru2> is there a script around that can install wine on dapper x64?
[11:15] <NoUse> Some_Person no yours is fine
[11:15] <theeil> nvidia problem: after installing the nvidia drivers are re-starting Xorg it starts up, but nothing is drawn to the screen
[11:15] <Hamppari> is there an easy way to update dapper i586 to am64
[11:15] <redrumz> im even running vlc for windows now that is one tasty bit of software
[11:16] <NoUse> Some_Person just install linux-k7
[11:16] <mehul> Some_Person, see ubuntu wiki for updated sources.list
[11:16] <bubba> linux -k7 if for multi processors
[11:16] <Some_Person> its version 2.6.12.16.1
[11:16] <luis_> 'check for updates' is not available in firefox, even running it with 'gksudo firefox'. how can I update it to 1.5.0.4?
[11:16] <disinterested_pe> i dont see where to change that isuactiafner?
[11:16] <fredmorcos> guys, how do i take video screen capture and save it to a file?
[11:16] <redrumz> Hamppari not likely
[11:16] <kbrosnan> Wait for ubuntu to upgrade the package luis_
[11:16] <Hamppari> redrumz ok
[11:17] <redrumz> Hamppari considering each application and library needs to be compiled for 64bit essentially
[11:17] <luis_> kbrosnan, oh will it update automatically now?
[11:17] <Hamppari> Yea figured it out
[11:17] <Some_Person> dont i want 2.6.15?
[11:17] <tim> Has anybody had any problems with Update Manager disapearing from the Admin menu? Or care to help me resolve it.
[11:17] <Hamppari> redrumz is there a big difference on them ?
[11:17] <NoUse> Some_Person thats only on dapper
[11:17] <bubba> wrong type smp is for mult cpu's dual
[11:17] <penguinwhoflew> how do i set individual screensaver settings? gnome-screensaver-preferences only lets me pick which one
[11:17] <kbrosnan> luis_, It will be upgrade through the ubuntu upgrade manager.
[11:17] <NickGarvey> tim: you can use the terminal
[11:17] <fredmorcos> guys, how do i take video screen capture and save it to a file?
[11:17] <NickGarvey> tim: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[11:18] <luis_> kbrosnan, that's nice to hear!! dapper rocking everything eh? :D
[11:18] <Beta_M> when i try to use the recording software it not only records the microphone, but also the output of the speakers, even when there's no feedback
[11:18] <Beta_M> how do i stop that
[11:18] <tga> did anyone ever install an Orinoco mini-pci card? I don't know which connector is for the external antenna and can't find a manual
[11:18] <fredmorcos> i tried redirecting the video output to /dev/video0 but failed
[11:18] <chavo> fredmorcos, istanbul
[11:18] <fredmorcos> also, tried /dev/nvidia0 but failed too
[11:18] <NoUse> Some_Person on breezy the most recent kernel is 2.6.12-10
[11:18] <penguinwhoflew> anyone? how do i set individual screensaver settings?
[11:18] <Some_Person> 4 hours??? is there an easier solution?
[11:18] <kbrosnan> luis_, for right now I suspect ubuntu will be in the same boat when firefox 2 comes out in ~4 months
[11:19] <NoUse> Some_Person 4 hours for what?
[11:19] <fredmorcos> chavo, thanks man have been looking for such an app all day
[11:19] <Some_Person> And will the "linux-k7" fix my soundcard problem?
[11:19] <NoUse> Some_Person I don't know
[11:19] <tga> should mini-pci cards show up in lspci?
[11:19] <Some_Person> 4 hours for linux-k7
[11:19] <Cloneysocks> Is there a way to dual boot Windows XP and Ubuntu such that the computer automatically loads Windows unless told to do otherwise during startup?
[11:19] <chavo> fredmorcos, np I couldn't get it to work without killing the cpu here, but I thinks it's because I'm running xgl
[11:19] <NoUse> Some_Person ah
[11:19] <krazykit> tga: yes
[11:20] <chavo> Cloneysocks, yes
[11:20] <Some_Person> cloneysocks: yes, with ntldr
[11:20] <LeaChim> Some_Person, you can have -k7 on breezy
[11:20] <LeaChim> Some_Person, apt-get install linux-image-k7
[11:20] <JINDAL> hullo guys assist  me to configure the network ......... had chosen to configure the device later during installation
[11:20] <fredmorcos> chavo, im running xgl too hehe
[11:20] <chavo> Cloneysocks, you have to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:20] <Some_Person> cloneysocks: do u have the windows bootloader?
[11:20] <krazykit> Cloneysocks: yeah, with grub.  you can edit your grub.conf or menu.lst to start windows by default
[11:20] <Beta_M> Cloneysocks: yes, you need to edit grub list
[11:20] <chavo> fredmorcos, well try it out anyway
[11:20] <zziizz> why was 'Mozilla' removed?
[11:21] <fredmorcos> i think it's working fine
[11:21] <Cloneysocks> I have whatever came with the Ubuntu 6.06 installation.  Beyond that I'm unsure
[11:21] <william__> does anyone know how I can get wxPython
[11:21] <Some_Person> i
[11:21] <tomas3_> i could only get xgl to work on my dapper 64bit by using unofficial debs... still did not work with the official ones after doing a dist-upgrade today
[11:21] <NoUse> zziizz I think it was split into smaller packages, apt-cache search mozilla
[11:21] <Cloneysocks> And when I start the computer at present it gives me a menu asking whether I want to start XP or Ubuntu
[11:21] <Some_Person> i just want my onboard soundcard to work
[11:22] <Cloneysocks> How do I edit the grub list?
[11:22] <xpc> hi
[11:22] <xpc> !hu
[11:22] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[11:22] <Some_Person> i dont care what kernel i have
[11:22] <chavo> Cloneysocks, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:22] <Some_Person> is there not some driver i can download?
[11:22] <NoUse> william__ search apt-get/synaptic for python and wx
[11:22] <krazykit> Some_Person: no.  the drivers would be in the kernel
[11:22] <tim> nick, when i run apt-get upgrade i get this eror: Unable to lock the administration dir (/var/lib/dpkg) i run su before I can apt
[11:22] <fredmorcos> chavo, now i clicked on the tray icon of istanbul, is turned from a red circle to a hard drive.. now it doesn't wanna go back :D
[11:22] <chavo> Cloneysocks, if you want to pastebin it I'll fix it up for ya
[11:22] <william__> well I cant find exactly what its telling me I need NoUse
[11:23] <Cloneysocks> That'd be lovely
[11:23] <zziizz> NoUse: thank you
[11:23] <william__> NoUse, http://tovid.berlios.de/en/dependencies.html
[11:23] <chavo> fredmorcos, it seemed to lock up for about 30 seconds or so
[11:23] <JINDAL> hey guys wats the command to configure the network device in terminal?
[11:23] <krazykit> JINDAL: ifconfig?
[11:23] <UltraMagnus> does ubuntu support software RAID?
[11:23] <krazykit> UltraMagnus: yep
[11:23] <fredmorcos> chavo, on which status does it mean it's recording?
[11:23] <JINDAL> krazykit, do ifconfig add a device such as eth09
[11:23] <ZeZu> how can i tell my current upstream/dnstream for a certain lan adapter?
[11:23] <JINDAL> eth0*
[11:24] <NoUse> william__ install python-wxgtk2.6
[11:24] <UltraMagnus> krazykit: do i need to install a package?
[11:24] <Some_Person> but my modem driver is not in the kernel, so why is the soundcard?
[11:24] <william__> ah alright, I'm too new and scared to try random things
[11:24] <UltraMagnus> krazykit: and does it support it with diskettes?
[11:24] <william__> thanks NoUse
[11:24] <krazykit> UltraMagnus: probably.  i'm not familiar with raid.
[11:24] <chavo> fredmorcos, well here it showed the stock gtk media stop button, but I guess it depends on your gtk theme
[11:24] <mehul> Some_Person, got any solution?
[11:24] <krazykit> JINDAL: oh, um, ifconfig eth0 up should do it, i think.
[11:24] <chavo> Cloneysocks, go here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste it in
[11:25] <Some_Person> i need a solution
[11:25] <d00bysnax> I am having trouble reinstalling 5.10 on a Dell Laptop, can i get some help? Says Debootstrap program exited with error return value 1
[11:25] <zziizz> I upgraded to 6.06, what happened to all of the option from Applications> System Tools> ?, only thing that is left is the options i manually entered.
[11:25] <Cloneysocks> Chavo, past what in?
[11:25] <titanium_platypu> when I try to install Dapper Drake, the final version, it gets to about 66% or 67% installed and then everything just freezes up.  It didn'
[11:25] <NoUse> Some_Person have you run through sound troubleshooting section in the wiki?
[11:25] <titanium_platypu> it didn't do that with Flight 7.
[11:25] <titanium_platypu> can anybody help me? TIA
[11:25] <ompaul> Some_Person, read that and check out modems http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/en_GB/hardware.html
[11:25] <chavo> Cloneysocks, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:25] <tim> anybody tell me wht this error means when i run apt-get upgrade:  Unable to lock the administration dir (/var/lib/dpkg) i have switched to root
[11:25] <Cloneysocks> gotcha
[11:26] <mehul> Some_Person, update your repostiory as given here
[11:26] <Tobberoth> Guys, why are screensavers and stuff lagging on my ubuntu?
[11:26] <Tobberoth> I have an Nvidia 7800GS!
[11:26] <ompaul> tim, swtiching to root does nothing - it is in fact not suggested as the way forward, and ehh have you synaptic open or some other apt-get install window or some such?
[11:26] <feross> hello, is there anything like windows restore for Ubuntu?
[11:26] <d00bysnax> titim, you probibly have synaptic or something open
[11:26] <mike_d> hi im trying to mount a network folder from my windows pc, which i can access from places, but how do i find out that pc's ip address so i can mount it permanently?
[11:26] <mehul> Some_Person, then do sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7. that's it. I tried it out
[11:26] <krazykit> tim: perhaps something else is running like synaptic or aptitude.
[11:26] <fredmorcos> gonna try it out now, thanks chavo, got it to work ;)
[11:26] <titanium_platypu> Tobberoth, did you install the 3d-accelerated drivers for your card?
[11:26] <tim> ah yes, that is it. thanks!
[11:27] <chavo> feross, no nothing automatic
[11:27] <spikeb> !pastebin
[11:27] <ompaul> feross, you can at the start of an install install debfoster and use that to walk backwords
[11:27] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:27] <Tobberoth> titanium_platypu: No, not personally, I thought ubuntu did it..
[11:27] <NoUse> mehul what are you telling him to do?
[11:27] <Tobberoth> I downloaded a linux driver from nvidias site, but it didn't want to install
[11:27] <ompaul> spikeb, who was that for?
[11:27] <titanium_platypu> Ubuntu just installs a generic driver.  You still have to download and install 3d accelerated drivers.
[11:27] <Cloneysocks> Chavo, which one do I want?
[11:27] <krazykit> Tobberoth: you need your kernel headers and build-essential
[11:27] <spikeb> ompaul, myself. i forgot to msg the bot
[11:27] <titanium_platypu> why didn't it want to install?  You have to get those installed for stuff like that to work.
[11:27] <ompaul> hehe
[11:27] <Tobberoth> I have build-essential
[11:27] <chavo> Cloneysocks, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:27] <dtygel> hi people, I need help! I've just deleted one file in ext3 system, in XFCE, so it seems there is no thrash I need to recover it!!
[11:27] <Tobberoth> I think the problem is I can't install the drivers while I'm running an x server
[11:28] <krazykit> Tobberoth: how 'bout your kernel headers
[11:28] <feross> chavo: ok, just wondering because that would be a nice feature to add..  especially in a corporate use.
[11:28] <Tobberoth> and I don't really dare closing down x, because I suck at the terminal
[11:28] <dtygel> any ideas? I'm desperate
[11:28] <Cloneysocks> chavo, I put that in search, but I got thirty-three results
[11:28] <krazykit> dtygel: you've just found out that there's no undelete.
[11:28] <roler> Is there a way to make X (/usr/bin/Xorg) use both CPU's on a SMP system?
[11:28] <feross> ompaul: I'll look into that
[11:28] <dtygel> krazykit, is ther any way to recover?
[11:28] <chavo> Cloneysocks, don't search for it just open it in gedit
[11:28] <tim> anybody know why update manager/notifer would have gone from the system/admin menu?
[11:28] <krazykit> dtygel: no, not really.
[11:28] <titanium_platypu> Tobberoth: you're going to have to shut down X, then.  Hit ctrl+alt+F1, switch to root, do a "killall gdm", and then run the installer.  Then, when you want X back, run "gdm" again.
[11:29] <neutrinomass> tim: Does /usr/share/applications/update-manager.desktop exist ?
[11:29] <dtygel> no way to recover data in ext3????????????????
[11:29] <ruff> hi. i need help with sane. anyone?
[11:29] <titanium_platypu> dtygel: there should be a hidden trash directory
[11:29] <titanium_platypu> like .Trash-<username>
[11:29] <dtygel> titanium: no, not in xfce
[11:29] <LeaChim> roler, afaik, X is only one process, and you can't have a process on 2 cpu's at the same time. i could be wrong on this though, i don't know that much about X with dual cpus
[11:29] <titanium_platypu> it doesn't matter what desktop you're in....
[11:29] <neutrinomass> dtygel: No :( No reasonable way, that is ...
[11:29] <Tobberoth> I don't remember how to run the installer... it's a .run file
[11:29] <spikeb> x isn't threadsafe
[11:29] <Cloneysocks> chavo, I opened it in gedit.  How should I alter it to make it so windows boots up automatically unless I give some command to load ubuntu?
[11:30] <titanium_platypu> at least, it shouldn't
[11:30] <dtygel> neutrinomass: no hack?
[11:30] <mumbles_laptop> ok this update is going to take forever
[11:30] <neutrinomass> LeaChim: Generally if it's threaded, I think you can...
[11:30] <titanium_platypu> if XFCE prevented it from making a trash directory, then it's not as cool as I thought
[11:30] <titanium_platypu> :-P
[11:30] <neutrinomass> dtygel: The only hack I can think of is to cat /dev/hda1 and grep for your file ...
[11:30] <LeaChim> neutrinomass, ok
[11:30] <LeaChim> Cloneysocks, you have a line saying default 0 correct?
[11:30] <krazykit> titanium_platypu: xfce doesn't do trash.  delete actually means delete.
[11:30] <titanium_platypu> krazykit: huh....I didn't know that.
[11:30] <Cloneysocks> LeaChim, yeah
[11:30] <krazykit> dtygel: you're out of luck unless you want to fork over big bucks
[11:30] <JINDAL> krazykit, i wanna configure eth0 via dhcp
[11:30] <neutrinomass> dtygel: Which is generally not "reasonable", unless it's a raelly important file
[11:30] <feross> ompaul: ahh :( -> As of 2006-01-01, debfoster is officially deprecated .. I guess Aptitude does the same thing.
[11:31] <mike_d> hi im trying to mount a network folder from my windows pc, which i can access from places, but how do i find out that pc's ip address so i can mount it permanently?
[11:31] <LeaChim> Cloneysocks, there will be a line saying being debian automagic kernels list, and one saying end, and below the end the entry for windows xp right?
[11:31] <krazykit> JINDAL: oh, that's easy.  sudo dhclient eth0
[11:31] <ruff> i've been trying to get an hp psc 1315 all-in-one scanner to work... it's recognized by sane-find-scanner but not by xsane.. what am i supposed to do?
[11:31] <dtygel> neutrinomass: it's really important!
[11:31] <tim> neutrinomass: no
[11:31] <JINDAL> oks thanks
[11:31] <ompaul> feross, ooch
[11:31] <Cloneysocks> LeaChim, yes
[11:31] <titanium_platypu> mike_d: get on the win box and run ipconfig or msipconfig or winipconfig
[11:31] <titanium_platypu> one of those
[11:31] <neutrinomass> dtygel: Then why don't you have backups :P ? Try grepping for it, it's the only way ...
[11:31] <dtygel> neutrinomass: should I type the exact name?
[11:31] <neutrinomass> tim: That's why. How on earth could it get deleted? Are you sure it's installed ?
[11:32] <neutrinomass> dtygel: It wasn't a text file (text = not binary) ?
[11:32] <dtygel> neutrinomass: I was in a meeting, doing the report, I came here and typed ctr-x to move the file, but XFCE DELETES the file with ctrl-X!!
[11:32] <LeaChim> Cloneysocks, move the entire windows xp section *above* the line saying begin automagic blah blah
[11:32] <dtygel> neutrinomass: an .odt file
[11:32] <roler> leachim; hmm
[11:32] <JINDAL> krazykit, done thanks a lot
[11:32] <Cloneysocks> leachim, alright
[11:32] <abou> I have a problem with Flash plugins in Firefox
[11:32] <neutrinomass> dtygel: What!? It deletes files with Ctrl-X ? Let me see ...
[11:32] <tim> neutrinomass: yes it is installed. no idea how it got deleted. i sure did not do it
[11:32] <LeaChim> roler, read what neutrinomass said. <neutrinomass> LeaChim: Generally if it's threaded, I think you can...
[11:32] <neutrinomass> tim: Try reinstalling ...
[11:32] <krazykit> dtygel: no, ctl-x cuts.
[11:32] <titanium_platypu> when I try to install Dapper Drake, the final version, it gets to about 66% or 67% installed and then everything just freezes up.  It didn't do that with Flight 7.  can anybody help me? TIA
[11:32] <dtygel> neutrinomass: it's just crazy! ctrl-x deletes the file directly
[11:33] <neutrinomass> dtygel: Thunar ?
[11:33] <dtygel> neutrinomass: no, roler
[11:33] <Cloneysocks> leachim, so, when I start up next time, I'll have to give a certain command to prevent it from going into windows?
[11:33] <dtygel> neutrinomass: roller
[11:33] <ruff> ok thanks for not helping me
[11:33] <chavo> Cloneysocks, you'll have to scroll down and choose ubuntu
[11:33] <dtygel> krazykit: not in this case: ctrl-x cuts
[11:33] <LeaChim> Cloneysocks, when it boots up now you have that list of operating systems right?
[11:33] <mike_d> titanium_platypu, i tried that just now, i got an ip address but when i try to go to it with smb://ipaddress, it says no such file or directory
[11:33] <tim> neutrinomass: can i do it via synaptic
[11:33] <Cloneysocks> leachim, yeah
[11:34] <chavo> or is the menu hidden by default now
[11:34] <neutrinomass> tim: Yes.... Clieck on update-manager and select reinstall ...
[11:34] <krazykit> dtygel: that's because you're using a crummy file manager.  use thunar in the future
[11:34] <LeaChim> Cloneysocks, now, windows will be at the top and will be the default. otherwise everything is the same
[11:34] <stinkywrix> Hey guys, whenever I try to open a 2.9gb file in archiver, it gives me this.  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[11:34] <stinkywrix>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[11:34] <stinkywrix>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[11:34] <stinkywrix>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[11:34] <stinkywrix> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/stinkywrix/wow_client_installer_fp.zip or
[11:34] <stinkywrix>         /home/stinkywrix/wow_client_installer_fp.zip.zip, and cannot find /home/stinkywrix/wow_client_installer_fp.zip.ZIP, period.
[11:34] <neutrinomass> dtygel: roller ? Can I have the package name please ... ?
[11:34] <titanium_platypu> mike_d: I'm pretty sure you might have to use the hostname if you're going to use samba.  Maybe not.  What IP address was it?  It should be a local one, starting with 192 or 10
[11:34] <NoUse> !tell stinkywrix about paste
[11:34] <dtygel> krazykit: now I must RECOVER that file: hours reporting! I cant loose it...
[11:34] <dtygel> neutrinomass: how do I see the package name in xfce?
[11:34] <NoUse> dtygel google 'undelete ext3'
[11:34] <mike_d> titanium_platypu, 192.168.0.1
[11:34] <krazykit> dtygel: well, don't do any heavy writing to the disk in the meantime
[11:35] <Cloneysocks> Leachim, Oh.  Is there a way to prevent it from prompting me and have it just boot up in Windows if I don't press a certain key?
[11:35] <roler> ok
[11:35] <tim> neutrinomass: great, thanks. that did the trick!
[11:35] <neutrinomass> dtygel: Do you remember any text from it? You can, but I HAVE NEVER TRIED IT, to cat /dev/hda1 | grep -B 1000 -A 1000 "Our sales went down down down"
[11:35] <neutrinomass> tim: You're welcome :)
[11:35] <LeaChim> Cloneysocks, it boots into ubuntu automatically does it not?
[11:35] <dtygel> nouse: I tried that google
[11:35] <chavo> Cloneysocks, you can set the timeout to 0
[11:35] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> someone help
[11:36] <roostishaw> how do i use wget to save a file as, for instance dog, instead of whatever the sever called it?
[11:36] <titanium_platypu> mike_d: so does it work using smb://<hostname>?
[11:36] <neutrinomass> dtygel: What's the name of the binary? i.e. how do you start it from the command line ?
[11:36] <dtygel> neutrinomass: I'll try it
[11:36] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> (using xubuntu) when i tried to use the ubuntu plus cd i got this error.. E:Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2). W:signture verification failed for : cdrom/disks/dapper/release.gpg
[11:36] <Cloneysocks> chavo, I bet that'll work.  What do I press to boot in ubuntu, then?
[11:36] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> (using xubuntu) when i tried to use the ubuntu plus cd i got this error.. E:Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2). W:signture verification failed for : cdrom/disks/dapper/release.gpg
[11:36] <titanium_platypu> when I try to install Dapper Drake, the final version, it gets to about 66% or 67% installed and then everything just freezes up.  It didn't do that with Flight 7.  can anybody help me? TIA
[11:36] <Cloneysocks> leachim, it prompts me to tell it which OS to go into
[11:36] <chavo> Cloneysocks, just push any key, but you'll have to be quick. I'd just set the timeout to 3
[11:36] <ompaul> titanium_platypu, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:37] <Cloneysocks> alright
[11:37] <blaze> wich program to use for dvd cleaning (rw)
[11:37] <chavo> Cloneysocks, you can also uncomment hiddenmenu
[11:37] <blaze> or baking to a dvd
[11:37] <neutrinomass> dtygel: You might have to play with the -B and -A options, 'man grep' for what they are ...
[11:37] <Cornellius> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified freeglut (billard-gl): failed to open display ':0.0'
[11:37] <tiagoboldt> blaze: gnome baker
[11:37] <Cornellius> It means ?
[11:37] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> (using xubuntu) when i tried to use the ubuntu plus cd i got this error.. E:Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2). W:signture verification failed for : cdrom/disks/dapper/release.gpg
[11:37] <chavo> Cloneysocks, that will make the menu hide unless you hit esc key
[11:37] <blaze> tiagoboldt: it doesn't want to clean my dvd
[11:37] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:37] <blaze> my dvd disc, i mean
[11:37] <Cloneysocks> chavo, so, if I uncomment hiddenmenu, do I need to edit the timeout?
[11:37] <tiagoboldt> blaze: isn't it damaged?
[11:37] <__doc__> hi, I'm searching for a nice midi sequencer/sampler/synth software for ubuntu, any getting started suggestions?
[11:37] <titanium_platypu> ompaul: I'd really prefer to do a straight install....do you know why I cannot?
[11:37] <blaze> nope
[11:38] <blaze> i'll try again..
[11:38] <tiagoboldt> blaze:  try to clean the disc before
[11:38] <chavo> Cloneysocks, yes the timeout still stands
[11:38] <mike_d> titanium_platypu,doesnt work, maybe im using the wrong host name
[11:38] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i use wget to save a file as, for instance dog, instead of whatever the sever called it?
[11:38] <LeaChim> Cloneysocks, doesn't it have a timeout, so after a certain it boots ubuntu automatically?
[11:38] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> (using xubuntu) when i tried to use the ubuntu plus cd i got this error.. E:Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2). W:signture verification failed for : cdrom/disks/dapper/release.gpg
[11:38] <Cloneysocks> leachim, I'm unsure
[11:38] <LeaChim> it should do
[11:38] <ompaul> titanium_platypu, sorry I took it you were upgrading (which would work okay)
[11:38] <LeaChim> in menu.lst is there a timeout value?
[11:38] <d00bysnax> I am having trouble installing 6.06, it freezes up at 39%... Any ideas? Its a Dell Inspiron 2650 laptop
[11:38] <Cloneysocks> chavo, leachim, I think I got it
[11:38] <LeaChim> kk
[11:38] <Cloneysocks> I'm restarting to test it
[11:39] <penguinwhoflew> hey, it's leachim!
[11:39] <Cloneysocks> brb, hopefully >.>
[11:39] <peter_> hi can anyone help me with this error?
[11:39] <chavo> good luck :)
[11:39] <LeaChim> penguinwhoflew, yes, it is
[11:39] <penguinwhoflew> hi.
[11:39] <penguinwhoflew> anyways
[11:39] <ompaul> titanium_platypu, ehh no idea why that might happen I would suggest that you install the server, when done then sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop it can help
[11:39] <chavo> peter, just ask
[11:39] <neutrinomass> d00bysnax: Checked the CD checksum? Has it burned correctly ?
[11:39] <peter_> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[11:39] <titanium_platypu> ompaul: I am upgrading.  Right now I'm on a makeshift Ubuntu 5.10 using nothing but GAIM and Firefox trying to figure out the problem.  I just trust a straight install better than an upgrade, you know?
[11:39] <Warbo> Cornellius: Your display has a number assigned to it (so localhost:0.0 is the default, as it is running on your machine) and you also need permission to access it (that's why using sudo with a graphical program gives a warning). For some reason your display cannot be accessed
[11:39] <penguinwhoflew> how can i change the settings of my individual screensavers? like to make the text in glmatrix move faster/slower etc?
[11:39] <selaiah> !ntfs
[11:39] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[11:40] <titanium_platypu> d00bsynax: I'm having exactly the same problem, except mine happens at 67% and I'm not on a laptop
[11:40] <Cornellius> Warbo: WHat can I do ?
[11:40] <Warbo> penguinwhoflew: I don't think you can in gnome-screensaver, but your can in xscreensaver (the old one, which gnome-screensaver is replacing)
[11:40] <mike_d> titanium_platypu, i have the ip address of my ubuntu system on my network, but when i reboot it changes, do you know of any way to keep it the same so i can vnc to it from my windows computer?
[11:40] <peter_> trying to update bcmw15,inf driver, broadcom wlan card as eth1, i have scoured the forums
[11:40] <titanium_platypu> ompaul: wow, so is installing the server and then apt-getting "ubuntu-desktop" the same thing as just installing the desktop?
[11:40] <ompaul> titanium_platypu, no, the idea here is to allow you use the computer except when you reboot after an install
[11:40] <yggdrasil> hello guy , i was trying to fix my samba and i erased my smb.conf. how can i make dpkgs reinstall it ???
[11:40] <dtygel> neutrinomass: its rox-filer
[11:40] <JINDAL> how do i install kernel[default frm installation]  source
[11:40] <NickGarvey> mike_d: smake it static
[11:41] <penguinwhoflew> Warbo: i have xscreensaver, but it would conflict with gnome-screensaver, which i couldn't figure out how to turn off
[11:41] <Warbo> Cornellius: To be honest I tried to install a package yesterday which said xlibs doesn't exist in ubuntu (well, a package with that name anyway. there is an xlibs-dev, but that is a dummy package)
[11:41] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> E:Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2). W:signture verification failed for : cdrom/disks/dapper/release.gpg
[11:41] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> whats that mean
[11:41] <titanium_platypu> mike_d: Go into your network setting and use static IP instead of DHCP, then you can pick a network address, as long as you keep it valid.  I don't know why DHCP would be eccentric like that, though, unless you're on a really large network with a lot of shutdowns and reboots.
[11:41] <Warbo> penguinwhoflew: Tell gnome-screensaver "turn on screensaver when my session is idle" no
[11:42] <amortvigil> hey i got this problem i am totaly new to linux and i wanted to install marcromedia flash player but now i have to enter a instalation path  like /usr/lib/mozilla but even that didnt worke then i tried usr/lib/mozilla-firefox but that didnt work either what cani do?
[11:42] <ompaul> titanium_platypu, I would not suggest it otherwise - this is not some half crazy piece of software - basing something on a piece of software that gets called carrier grade should be a clue ;-)
[11:42] <penguinwhoflew> warbo: got it, thanks
[11:42] <NoUse> !tel amortvigil about flash
[11:42] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NoUse
[11:42] <NoUse> !tell amortvigil about flash
[11:42] <mardi> we can't get our mic to record, any help?
[11:42] <KuLover> NoUse, can you send that to mee to please?
[11:42] <yggdrasil> i erased my smb.conf. how can i make dpkg reinstall it ??? i tried sudo apt-get and remove of samba
[11:42] <NoUse> KuLover /msg ubotu flash
[11:42] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> E:Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2). W:signture verification failed for : cdrom/disks/dapper/release.gpg
[11:42] <titanium_platypu> ompaul: hehe.  So, it is the same, then, or are there any differences I should be aware of?
[11:42] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> (using xubuntu) when i tried to use the ubuntu plus cd i got this error.. E:Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2). W:signture verification failed for : cdrom/disks/dapper/release.gpg
[11:43] <skipster23> can somebody tell if it is possibe to load the edubuntu 6.06 desktop cd without cd bios capabillities
[11:43] <disinterested_pe> amoortvigil i installed mozilla browser and flash worked
[11:43] <KuLover> NoUse, I didnt recieve it :/
[11:43] <ompaul> mardi, double click on the little speaker top right hand corner and un mute it?
[11:43] <NoUse> !flash
[11:43] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:43] <eXistenZ> Can anyone tell me why cannot I paste pictures copied from acrobat reader into gimp?
[11:43] <NoUse> KuLover ^^
[11:43] <KuLover> !flash
[11:43] <penguinwhoflew> now, how do i install more screensavers for xscreensaver?
[11:44] <mardi> ompaul: have looked through all that, have made sure alsamixer is right too, thanks :)
[11:44] <Ca> hello?
[11:44] <ompaul> mardi, is audacity pointing to the right sound device
[11:44] <abou> I have flash plugin installed and work ok in Konqueror, but not in firefox, anyone knows what should do?
[11:44] <bladesprem06> hi all, can anybody tell me how to find out which graphics driver i have installed?
[11:44] <mardi> ompaul: audacity you say? will look
[11:44] <KuLover> Thank you NoUse and ubotu.
[11:45] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> (using xubuntu) when i tried to use the ubuntu plus cd i got this error.. E:Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2). W:signture verification failed for : cdrom/disks/dapper/release.gpg
[11:45] <ompaul> mardi, it is a recording program
[11:45] <Ca> can i install programs suchas limewire on ubuntu?
[11:45] <ompaul> !limewire
[11:45] <lilminime> Hi everyone. Have anyone here ever transfered a song to theyr ipod using rythmbox?
[11:45] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[11:45] <dtygel> neutrinomass: I've done the command cat /dev/hda1 with a part of the file, and it says at the end: "binary file matches with the defaullt"
[11:45] <Tobberoth> okey, sorry for this stupid question, but was it really "killall gdb" i was supposed to write?
[11:45] <disinterested_pe> bladesprem it doesnt install in firefox
[11:45] <dtygel> neutrinoimass: what does that mean?
[11:45] <dtygel> neutrinomass: is there some hope?
[11:45] <Warbo> penguinwhoflew: The screensavers are all little programs (called "hacks") which are in (I think) /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver. To install more just copy them there. I know there are some extra GLX-type ones out there somewhere.....
[11:45] <Ca> thanks
[11:45] <mardi> ompaul: we are using the stock gnome "Sound Recoreder", will look for audacity
[11:46] <titanium_platypu> ompaul: I'm also wondering if I can just do a regular installation with the "alternate" CD, rather than having to get the live desktop.  And I would really like to confirm that there will be no differences if I install the server and then apt-get ubuntu-desktop.
[11:46] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> (using xubuntu) when i tried to use the ubuntu plus cd i got this error.. E:Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2). W:signture verification failed for : cdrom/disks/dapper/release.gpg
[11:46] <bladesprem06> sorry, i mean the video card drivers
[11:46] <lilminime> Have anyone here ever transfered a song to theyr ipod using rythmbox? And if, can the explaine it here? plz.
[11:46] <h3sp4wn> mardi: The realttime-preempt patches make sound work alot better with ardour
[11:46] <kbrosnan> abou, have you looked at profile in use is a problem that stops you from using your normal profile. See here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_in_use
[11:46] <Tobberoth> lilmini, rhymbox can't do that
[11:46] <Tobberoth> it's read only
[11:46] <NoUse> !ipod
[11:46] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[11:46] <Ca> were do i get !java?
[11:47] <NoUse> !java
[11:47] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:47] <kbrosnan> abou, wrong clipboard i intended to paste http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Flash
[11:47] <lilminime> Tobberoth: read only? :O Arn't there any plugins for it?
[11:47] <Ca> thanks
[11:47] <tiagoboldt> NoUse: on fire:)
[11:47] <lilminime> Tobberoth: read only? :O Arn't there any plugins for it?
[11:47] <Tobberoth> lilminime:  Sure there are :) Check on wiki.ubuntu.com/ipod
[11:47] <Tobberoth> not sure about that URL, hold on
[11:47] <ompaul> titanium_platypu, do as you want - you can do it many ways and end up in the same place
[11:48] <titanium_platypu> okay, so can I do a regular installation with the alternate CD?
[11:48] <Jemt> Anyone in here having problems with VMWare? My laptop freezes every time I start Windows XP within the VMWare Player
[11:48] <Tobberoth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto?highlight=%28ipod%29
[11:48] <Tobberoth> That's the one :)
[11:48] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> yes you ca titanium
[11:48] <[CC] Impsy`AO`OUT> *can
[11:48] <ompaul> titanium_platypu, yes - and you can do it any of the ways I suggested :-)
[11:48] <mardi> h3sp4wn: we are just using a lappy with onboard sounds, not sure if we need something as full featured as ardour, thanks tho :)
[11:48] <disinterested_pe> just like ymessenger wont work on ubuntu lol
[11:48] <skipster23> my bios doesn't support cd booting, how can boot the edubuntu 6.06 desktop cd
[11:48] <Tobberoth> titanium_platypu: Was it killall gdb?
[11:48] <titanium_platypu> okay, thanks, I'm going to try that first, and then the server thing.  Thanks a lot everyone.
[11:48] <neutrinomass> dtygel: sudo cat /dev/hda1 | grep -A 500 -B 500 --binary-file=text "Shut down this company"
[11:48] <h3sp4wn> mardi: Are you using it for recording a band or something ?
[11:49] <lufis> Hi, I think I fuxed my system up pretty bad. In an effort to install xgl/compiz I changed the gnome "sessions"... I restarted X and gnome loaded up, but there were no title bars on any of the windows. i.e., i couldn't close, maximize, etc any windows. Wtf gives?
[11:49] <mardi> h3sp4wn: jeez no! just voice :p
[11:49] <dtygel> neutrino: I'll try that
[11:49] <mardi> h3sp4wn: not even singing
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> mardi: ok
[11:49] <lilminime> Tobberoth: That page only said howto do it with amaroK,sure amaroK is a great player, but I preffere rythmbox if its possible, maybe anyone else can help me out?
[11:49] <Warbo> skipster23: I know GRUB (the bootloader) will easily fit onto a floppy, but I don't know if it will be able to access the CD either
[11:49] <penguinwhoflew> anyone? how do i install more screensavers to xscreensaver?
[11:49] <Tobberoth> lilminime: I don't think it's possible for rythmbox yet, but they are working on it
[11:49] <lilminime> Tobberoth: okey, sad:(
[11:50] <Warbo> penguinwhoflew: The screensavers are all little programs (called "hacks") which are in (I think) /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver. To install more just copy them there. I know there are some extra GLX-type ones out there somewhere.....
[11:50] <Tobberoth> Agreed, I love rythmbox myself :) great player
[11:50] <neutrinomass> dtygel: Be careful. The grep manpage warns that weird code may be executed (if the terminal interprets what is displayed as a command)
[11:50] <dtygel> neutrinomass: ok
[11:50] <Yoric> Mmmmhhh....
[11:50] <Tobberoth> can anyone tell me how to close down x again? forgot the commands :(
[11:50] <dtygel> neutrinomass: I'm waiting: it's doing the scan
[11:50] <NoUse> Tobberoth to restart or to stop it?
[11:50] <Yoric> Tobberoth, ctrl-alt-backspace.
[11:51] <Tobberoth> i go ctrl+alt+F1
[11:51] <Yoric> I'm trying to install Opera in Dapper and it complains about missing xlibs.
[11:51] <redrumz> gmd Tobberoth
[11:51] <Tobberoth> then write killall
[11:51] <Tobberoth> something
[11:51] <Tobberoth> gmd!
[11:51] <Tobberoth> thanks
[11:51] <ompaul> !enter
[11:51] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:51] <ompaul> Tobberoth, ^^ up a line or two please ;-0
[11:51] <Yoric> Any suggestion ?
[11:51] <Tobberoth> what do you mean ompaul?
[11:51] <neutrinomass> dtygel: The shorter text you grep for, the greater are your chances of finding it.
[11:51] <penguinwhoflew> Warbo: i don't have that directory, but i do have /usr/lib/xscreensaver and not all the hacks in there are showing
[11:52] <ompaul> Tobberoth, Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:52] <Tobberoth> Oh, yeah, sorry :)
[11:52] <Hamppari> How can I make ubuntu to unload a specific USB device I have plugged in??
[11:52] <mardi> ompaul: should we be using /dev/dsp for recording through the mic?
[11:53] <ompaul> Hamppari, you should not have to unplugging it may help unless it is a drive - in which case you need to right click on it on the desktop and umount it
[11:53] <bladesprem06> which command do i need to find out information on my graphics card driver?
[11:53] <ompaul> mardi, I don't see an issue with that
[11:53] <neutrinomass> Any P2P clients nicer than gtk-gnutella ?
[11:53] <Hamppari> ompaul its my mobile phone and it doesnt work on ubuntu, im trying to use it on winxp vmware
[11:53] <lufis> Is there something missing from the gnome startup programs when everything will work properly except the titlebars on the windows? Like no maximize, minimize, etc show up?
[11:53] <Warbo> neutrinomass: MLDonkey with Sancho for GUI
[11:53] <lufis> neutrinomass: Try Nicotine :)
[11:54] <ompaul> Hamppari, you said winxp and vmware your on your own there I have no idea
[11:54] <Warbo> lufis: That is the window manager not loading (run "metacity")
[11:54] <mardi> ompaul: the only devices listed are dsp dsp1, and neither capture sound..
[11:54] <lufis> Warbo: Are you sure? I thought I had metacity listed
[11:54] <dtygel> neutrinomass: is there a way to put the result directly in a file? it scrolls too fast!
[11:54] <Hamppari> ompaul i have the module name, so what command ill type to terminal for "unloading a module"
[11:54] <Warbo> lufis: Well metacity is the program which draws the titlebars
[11:54] <mardi> ompaul: we can turn the mic 'on' in alsamixer and hear it through the speakers, so we know that works
[11:54] <lufis> Warbo: What about gdm?
[11:54] <neutrinomass> lufis: It doesn't do major networks as far as I see :(
[11:55] <ompaul> mardi, so it was off -
[11:55] <BioVorE> anyone using kubuntu and azuerus having problems with the pop up windows not going away (the one in the lower right that spits out warning and stuff)
[11:55] <BioVorE> didn't have this problem with brezzy
[11:55] <lufis> neutrinomass: Yeah, but it can do everything soulseek can... lots of music
[11:55] <neutrinomass> dtygel: Yes. sudo cat /dev/hda1 | grep --binary-file=text "#include <stdio.h>" > outputfile.txt
[11:55] <Warbo> lufis: GDM only handles the login and keeping the actual X session going. It is run by root for the system and has nothing to do with everyday user stuff
[11:55] <lufis> Warbo: Hm, thanks. Maybe that's why :)
[11:55] <ompaul> mardi, check in the speaker again under capture and also right click on that software to get more config options
[11:55] <Cornellius> I prefer KDM
[11:55] <ompaul> Cornellius, so use it
[11:56] <Cornellius> ompaul: :P
[11:56] <VSTP> Nicotine is not good for health ! 8D
[11:56] <mardi> ompaul: the mic is on mute in alsamixer, as per the wiki instructions, but that's only so we don't hear ourselves through the speakers while recording
[11:56] <neutrinomass> Warbo: mldonkey seems nice :)
[11:56] <dtygel> neutrinomass: and is there a way to narrow the search? the result is really too big... it didn't stop yet!
[11:56] <lufis> But it feels sooo good
[11:56] <ompaul> mardi, your way ahead of me then
[11:56] <thomasM> guys i have a problem, when i log in, i get errors about how powermanager cannnot be started until dbus is started, and then i get a HAL error. is this common?
[11:56] <nico8481> hi
[11:57] <Yoric> ok, found the solution to my problem
[11:57] <NoUse> BioVorE https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/azureus/+bug/41813
[11:57] <BioVorE> ah so some has filed a bug report then on this problem
[11:57] <Tobberoth> Hello guys, back allready ^^. Okey, the Nvidia installer needs ubuntus kernel source to compile the driver for this kernel. I need to download it, what should I download in the synaptic package thing for that to work?
[11:57] <alfr> i want solucion, for my sound in gateway mx3560 with ubuntu  Draker LST
[11:57] <NoUse> BioVorE its a bug in azureus
[11:58] <alfr> support
[11:58] <neutrinomass> dtygel: Depends. Grep searches for the file and outputs 500 lines before the line in which your search string was found and 600 lines after your search string, (if it was passed -A 500 and -B 600). Is the search picking up unrelated files, or is the range that grep outputs too large ?
[11:58] <BioVorE> NoUse: I think it might be an azrurs/java interface with kde issue
[11:58] <nico8481> how do you force the re-installation of a package with apt? i already have the latest version of the package but i installed from a repository that i removed from my sources.list in the meantime... i'd like to replace it by the "official" ubuntu version
[11:58] <BioVorE> brezzy didn't have the problem
[11:58] <Mikelo> !skype
[11:58] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[11:58] <Hamppari> Ok I typed "  sudo modprobe --remove cdc_acm " and it removed the module and it worked on vmware but how do I make ubuntu not to load the module eveytime I plug the device
[11:58] <Warbo> neutrinomass: On the mldonkey homepage (i forget the URL now) it says that Gnutella 1/2 support is broken (I don't know for sure as I use gtk-gnutella for that)
[11:58] <yggdrasil> cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.
[11:58] <alfr> !kernel
[11:58] <yggdrasil> i get that when im trying to mount -t smbfs
[11:59] <void^> BioVorE, NoUse: that problem is fixed in azureus cvs snapshots
[11:59] <Eleaf> heeelp ;)
[11:59] <debian_> is there a way to set thunar as my default file manager for opening folders etc but still have nautilius do its thing for icons on the desktop etc
[11:59] <Tobberoth> Hello guys, back allready ^^. Okey, the Nvidia installer needs ubuntus kernel source to compile the driver for this kernel. I need to download it, what should I download in the synaptic package thing for that to work?
[11:59] <neutrinomass> dtygel: i.e.Is the middle part of the output what you want and the edges wrong, or do you get totally wrong stuff as well ? If the former, play with the -A and -B options. If the latter, try a narrower search string. In the meantime, do NOT write to the drive AT ALL !
[11:59] <Eleaf> I upgraded to dapper and I'm unable to close about 50% of the windows with a mouse!!! =O
[11:59] <Eleaf> I also cannot scroll
[11:59] <neutrinomass> Warbo: :( That's bad. I'
[11:59] <BioVorE> void^: ah.. cool.. so a fix is in testing then..
[11:59] <neutrinomass> Warbo: (hit enter mid-sentence) I'll keep searching :)
[12:00] <rizck> how do i install jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586-rpm.bin  in ubuntu?
[12:00] <jasonjdp> wow, are there any easy ways to set up Xgl?  scripts?