=== slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 08 Jun 08:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 14 Jun 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 13:30 UTC: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 14:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 17:00 UTC: Documentation Team | 20 Jun 20:00 UTC: Technical Board === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/imbrandon] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] [12:49] @schedule copenhagen [12:49] Schedule for Europe/Copenhagen: 08 Jun 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 14 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 15:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 19:00: Documentation Team | 20 Jun 22:00: Technical Board === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jane_ [n=JaneW@dsl-146-167-152.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === dragonco [n=cached@146-115-65-15.c3-0.bkl-ubr2.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:19] ... === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === j_ack [n=nico@p508D8CDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Whatsisname [n=whatsisn@rrcs-67-52-37-209.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === robitaille_ [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:53] @schedule Shanghai [04:53] Schedule for Asia/Shanghai: 08 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 14 Jun 20:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 21:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 16 Jun 01:00: Documentation Team | 21 Jun 04:00: Technical Board === j_ack [n=nico@p508D8CDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-18-102.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === euther [n=i@64-252-72-180.adsl.snet.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.88] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === theoddone [n=hgibson@hgibson.ee.sun.ac.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mvo [n=egon@p54A6673E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === theoddone [n=hgibson@hgibson.ee.sun.ac.za] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Lure_ [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvoltage [n=jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === x92 [n=heikon@84-50-222-10-dsl.prn.estpak.ee] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:22] Hello! [09:24] hello x92 [09:26] New project by Ubuntu :) Xubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) [09:27] hm? [09:28] http://www.xubuntu.org/ [09:29] I want to try it out... maybe THIS works on my server mahine :) because Ubuntu 5.10 and 5.05 doesn't work on it :S only Windows systems are working on my server machine [09:31] x92: could I ask you to join the channel #xubuntu ? [09:31] okay! [09:31] They will probably be able to help you better there - I'm in there too, if you need me. [09:31] but can i get support for ubuntu on this channel? [09:32] Not really - this channel serves for meetings - #ubuntu is the main support channel. [09:33] aha...okay [09:33] when the meeting will come :P [09:35] The schedule of meetings is here: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event [09:35] @schedule Prague [09:35] Schedule for Europe/Prague: 08 Jun 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 14 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 15:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 19:00: Documentation Team | 20 Jun 22:00: Technical Board [09:35] x92: there is a VERY important meeting here in 23 minutes. [09:36] Okay I will be here !! [09:36] but... [09:36] (event) [09:36] Ubuntu Development Team Meeting [09:36] Start: 08:00 [09:36] End: 09:30 [09:37] time is 10:37 here :D === tortho [n=tortho@126.84-49-96.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:37] where is here? [09:37] estonia [09:37] GMT +2 [09:37] @schedule Tallinn [09:37] Schedule for Europe/Tallinn: 08 Jun 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 14 Jun 15:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 16:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 20:00: Documentation Team | 20 Jun 23:00: Technical Board [09:38] aha...okay :D === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:39] OK, x92, I don't want to sound rude, but the meeting coming up is an Ubuntu development meeting - and since neither of us is a dev - I'd suggest we don't disturb, OK? :) === bmon [n=monnahan@226.Red-83-38-113.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:39] shure :) i just watch the smart talking :P === jenda will too === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:44] good morning [09:45] hello, dholbach :) [09:46] heya G0SUB [09:46] hello G0SUB! how is your project going? [09:46] mvo: you know better :) [09:46] G0SUB: haha :) === Ragol [i=rajala37@mozart.cc.tut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:48] G0SUB: almost finished then? :) [09:49] ajmitch: heh, no. just about to start in fact :) === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Ubuntu Development Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 14 Jun 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 13:30 UTC: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 14:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 17:00 UTC: Documentation Team | 20 Jun 20:00 UTC: Technical Board === vincent__ [n=vincent@85.69.101.147] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:56] good morning folks [09:56] x92: just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop on your server box [09:56] hello mdz! [09:56] everyone here? === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:56] hi mdz [09:56] hello [09:57] hi === infinity [n=adconrad@69.0.240.48] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-181-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:57] EHLO [09:57] morning [09:57] morning [09:58] -ERR [09:58] hello [09:58] sladen: okay.. downloading ;) === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:58] Keybuk,seb128,doko,heno,infinity,sfllaw,BenC,ogra,iwj,Riddell: ping [09:58] Hello. [09:58] mdz: seb128 is on holidays. [09:58] mdz: Pong. [09:58] dholbach: oh, yes [09:59] mdz: pong [09:59] JaneW: anyone other than seb128 not expected? [10:00] mdz: not afaik === bheung [n=brian@c-67-169-157-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:00] dholbach: could you ring ogra? [10:00] mdz: i will do that [10:01] Kamion: could you try riddell and keybuk? [10:02] ok [10:02] SMSed Ben [10:03] Kamion: oh, heno is in your calling radius as well [10:03] Keybuk's phone is ringing ... and ringing ... and ringing [10:03] I left a message on ogra's mobile. [10:03] the UK has one of the most reasonable times for this particular meeting, ironically [10:04] I think Keybuk was up late driving edgy [10:04] Scott logged off at around ~0300 last night, so he could well be sleeping. [10:04] (0300 his local time) [10:04] Yeah, Scott was up late wrangling the opening of edgy with me. [10:04] dholbach: care to start us off? [10:05] this week (done): gnome 2.14 updates to dapper-updates, bugtriage, general catching up [10:05] this week (todo): gnome 2.15 and merging, more bug triage, writing specs [10:05] next week: gnome 2.15 and merging, more bug triage [10:05] dholbach: how are you doing on your specs for paris? [10:05] left messages for Keybuk and Riddell; phoning heno === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:05] mdz: starting off and have some plans with Michael - but not much progress yet [10:06] heno will be with us shortly [10:06] everyone should have a substantial number of specs (say 5-8) for Paris by the end of the week (i.e. tomorrow) [10:07] if you're short of ideas, please talk to me sooner rather than later :-) [10:07] should we try to limit ourself to 5-8? or is it ok to have ... more :) ? [10:07] mvo: more is always fine, though it's not clear how many it will be possible to schedule [10:07] would it be possible to get a bunch of the old spec suggestions removed too? [10:07] Mithrandir: removed from where? [10:07] the spec tracker in LP [10:08] there are some there which are bogus [10:08] I don't think so [10:08] the idea is that we should only need to pay attention to specs which are targeted for a release or a meeting === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:08] and that the list of all specs will be a swamp [10:08] but feel free to mail launchpad with suggestions === heno [n=henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:09] sorry for being late [10:09] mdz: re e-mail, I had deliberately left one spec not added to the meeting, because I think it's edgy+1 [10:09] dholbach: are you confident about meeting that target? === Casanova [n=prash@unaffiliated/casanova] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:09] mdz: I'll get cracking on it with full speed [10:10] ok [10:10] thanks dholbach [10:10] doko: next? === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.200.176] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:11] - this week (monday bank holidy) [10:11] - toolchain updates for edgy [10:11] - openoffice.org: preparing 2.0.2 l10n packages for dapper, rosetta discussions with carlos, preparing 2.0.3 for edgy, builds for amd64 again (no java, gtk crashes, must be gtk bug). [10:11] - SoC bug [10:11] - need to do: specs, SoC [10:12] doko: 2.0.2 l10n packages? [10:12] hmm [10:12] doko: erm, we don't have bank holidays in .de :) (that was Pentecost) [10:12] * doko has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <- [10:12] indeed [10:12] we'll come back to him when he reconnects [10:12] fabbione: you're up [10:12] * sparc: working on t1000. Got it installed yesterday and helping davem to get his box up for full speed d [10:12] ebugging. got access to the 4 core Niagara today. [10:12] * specs: most of the specs i will be working are leftovers from dapper. Need to remove dust from them. Unl [10:12] ikely to have them all ready by deadline. [10:12] * ubuntu-cluster: updated ocfs2 and working on GFS2 userland (kernel is already done) while waiting for sp [10:13] arcs to reboot or build kernels.. [10:13] * last week: release, release party, drunk, drunk.. more drunk.. more drunkness.. fun.. profit, sparc, spa [10:13] rc64, more profit.. [10:13] * next week: sparc till dapper release. === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-065-191.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:13] fabbione: hand over some of the profit [10:13] fabbione: since you'll be working on your specs remotely and not at the meeting, the deadline is not as critical. the sparc work is more important of course [10:13] Kamion: ehehe [10:14] sorry, daily disconnect from my provider [10:14] mdz: yeps.. i will still be coordinating with jbailey, neuralis and infinity. [10:14] mdz: they will be my gw for some of the specs [10:14] fabbione: for your specs, just target them to dapper rather than adding to Paris [10:14] fabbione: unless you really need us to talk about them without you [10:14] s/dapper/edgy/, I guess? [10:14] s/dapper/edgy/? [10:14] mdz: some of them are shared, like cluster, server and mubuntu [10:14] yes, edgy [10:15] mdz: people can still talk.. i will find a way to be "there" === Keybuk hands fabbione a headset [10:15] Keybuk: i have one ;) [10:15] theoretically.. [10:15] anyway [10:15] mdz: will do as much as possible.. sparc first === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:16] fabbione: if they aren't proposed for Paris by the deadline it will be problematic to schedule them; if they really need to be discussed there then ask the people who will be there to help get them entered so you can continue on sparc [10:16] fabbione: you did mention this week some sparc toolchain issues? [10:17] mdz: ok will do. [10:17] fabbione: thanks [10:17] doko: let's take this on -toolchain [10:17] mdz: thanks to you [10:17] doko: now that you're back...you mentioned about 2.0.2 l10n for dapper? I thought dapper already had 2.0.2 l10n === jsgotangco [n=jerome@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:18] doko: disconnected again? [10:18] mdz; it has, but including the import from rosetta, there are some conversion problems, and currently a build problem, because we do not scale with the number of language packs [10:19] doko: 2.0.2-2ubuntu5 seemed to build [10:20] mdz: -ubuntu12 not yet [10:20] 2.0.2-2ubuntu5 doesn't have the updates from rosetta [10:20] doko: is -l10n actually any different between ubuntu5 and ubuntu12? [10:20] I see [10:21] doko: what is "SoC bug'? [10:21] mdz: hrm, nothing, just the to do line :-/ [10:22] doko: meaning SoC mentoring? what is the 'bug'? [10:22] doko: you can;t call SoC a bug! :P [10:23] lol [10:23] mdz: sorry, please ignore that line [10:23] ...ok [10:23] heno: next? [10:23] * Websites: gave ubuntu.com a minor facelift and tidying up [10:23] * Accessibility: working on lots of new specs, SoC, website section, support section in the forums. We are starting to see a trickle of users now trying it out and seeking [10:24] support [10:24] heno: are you more or less finished proposing specs for paris, or have more planned? [10:24] all done :) [10:24] ok, great [10:25] I realise there were quite a few this time [10:25] heno: did you receive the email I CCed you on regarding the forums (from sounder I think(? [10:25] yes, there are social and technical aspects [10:25] with the technical being fairly easy [10:26] coordinating tabs and such [10:26] we seem to have one forums person in paris [10:26] not necessarily someone who deals with the infrastructure, though; they say they are a moderator [10:26] yes Roald Hopman [10:26] I have a good communication with the forum staff on the social level as well though, so I can help there [10:27] we should slot in at least one discussion about how to encourage more crossover between the forums and other parts of the community [10:27] heno: could you register a spec to ensure that goes on the agenda? [10:27] mdz: yes [10:27] thanks [10:27] infinity: next? [10:28] last week: lots of tete-a-tete with soyuz folk about correctly closing dapper, and getting edgy open. Also got dapper-updates (soyuz) and dapper-security (dak) live and mostly happy. [10:28] this week: opening edgy with a full toolchain bootstrap, then letting open the floodgates for building everything else uploaded, then catching up on some less critical security backlog. [10:28] mdz: one of the reasons to get forum people in Paris was to discuss forums governance. Mark and I have talked about this with Ryan Troy in the past, just tryingt omove things forward. Do you need a spec registered for that? [10:28] silbs: I suppose we can schedule things manually, but putting in a spec is the best way to ensure that it won't be overlooked (and it'd be a good idea to write up the outcome anyway, provide a means for people to subscribe to participate, etc.) [10:29] infinity: specs for Paris? [10:29] mdz: What if there's nothing other than "run the infrastructure nearly full time and maintain my pet packages" that really interests me? [10:30] mdz: I'll poke neuralis about some ubuntu-server spec stuff, though. [10:30] infinity: if you'll be around after the meeting, let's talk about it [10:30] Since I intend to still own that. === infinity nods. [10:30] Do let's. [10:30] ok, thanks [10:30] I'm here all night making sure edgy opens. [10:30] iwj: next? === ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-165-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:31] last week: release testing. firefox themes. chasing ancient dpkg bug with >=2 cargo cult wrong fixes (46530 etc.) [10:31] this week: firefox 1.5.0.4. investigating breezy ff security options. Thinking about edgy; I hadn't realised the target was 5-8 specs; I'll take a more shallow approach. [10:31] todo: investigate some ff 1.5.0.4 for breezy-security. Firm up, write up and register some of these spec ideas. When will the decisions about prioritisation be taken ? [10:31] infinity: it can't be night for you; it's night for me ;-) [10:31] iwj: prioritisation> next week [10:31] mdz: It'll be night when I'm done. :) [10:31] iwj: see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000145.html [10:31] iwj: for the deadline, all you need are abstracts for discussion topics [10:32] Right. But if I really want to push something I need to beef up the rationale ASAP. [10:32] iwj: in edgy, please merge the human firefox theme as default; once it's been tested in edgy, sabdfl wants it backported to dapper [10:33] mdz: That will mean having a different firefox in dapper-updates and dapper-security. [10:33] iwj: or merging the change into -security [10:33] Indeed. [10:34] I'm not sure how our users would feel about us doing a theme update in -security. [10:34] I expect that we have few if any desktop users who use -security without -updates, to be honest [10:34] by sabdfl's own definitions, doing that in -security would be wrong ;-) [10:34] and almost as few non-desktop users [10:35] I'm both a server and desktop user, and I always have both :) [10:35] Kamion: I did discuss it with him in fact [10:35] 18:30 < sabdfl> - enable -security only (very stable, only security updates) [10:35] Kamion: what was the context there? [10:35] -security vs. -security+-updates vs. -security+-updates+-proposed-updates [10:35] #launchpad yesterday [10:36] we've routinely merged non-security bugfixes into -security to avoid duplicating work [10:36] not that often, but indeed we did === olemke [n=olemke@iup.physik.uni-bremen.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:36] but only for small critical bug fixes without impact on the UI === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:36] anyway, thanks iwj [10:36] iwj: you'll be around after the meeting as well, yes? [10:36] Just to be clear: [10:36] mdz: yes [10:37] I don't really think this is a very good idea, but obviously I don't want to argue with sabdfl. So AIUI I'm instructed to push the theme change into -security ? [10:37] iwj: but let's do the initial 1.5.0.4 update ASAP, without the theme change for now [10:38] pitti++ [10:38] pitti: Absolutely. [10:38] In fact, it was uploaded earlier during the meeting. [10:38] iwj: you're welcome to roll a security+theme package for -updates, but keeping that up over 5 years sounds uninteresting [10:39] doorbell [10:39] ok [10:39] JaneW: next? [10:39] back [10:39] TBH, firefox enjoys a rather lax security policy ANYWAY, so one more change in -security isn't likely to make people take notice in the least. [10:39] Did: [10:39] -SoC: Admin tasks, final mapping of students to mentors, communicating between students and mentors, and google, looking for a SoC admin replacement, any volunteers??? (doko?) [10:39] -Mailing Lists: catching up on back log and unsubscribing from those no longer relevant. [10:39] -Edubuntu: Attended last EC meeting, and appointed 2 new Edubuntu Members, Edubuntu 6.06 released and is doing great on the distrowatch charts - thanks to ogra. Have been handing over my Edbuntu Admin tasks as appropriate. [10:39] -UDS Paris: Invited sponsored guests. Communicated with all guests to facilitate bookings and preferences, prepared spreadsheets and handed these to clan to take over. [10:39] - Have been really knocked by flu and a sinus infection this week. [10:39] To Do: [10:39] -Finalising everything. This is my last week :( [10:39] -Assisting with LP spec registering and Edubuntu as required etc. [10:39] Please let me know if I need to do anything for anyone? [10:39] mdz: how do you want this meeting recorded for instance? [10:39] Finally: Thanks to everyone for the most fantastic opportunity, it has been an honor and privileged to have worked with you all! [10:40] thanks for everything [10:40] JaneW: thank you! === jsgotangco claps for JaneW === pitti gives JaneW a big hug and thanks her [10:40] JaneW: for everything you've done [10:40] JaneW: a brief summary for the weekly newsletter and a link to the log would be great === Fujitsu applauds JaneW. [10:40] JaneW: thanks! [10:40] any volunteers for meeting secretary in the future? [10:40] yeah, thank you very much, JaneW [10:40] Where are you going? :( [10:40] mdz: right, thanks === mvo gives JaneW a big hug and wishes her all the best [10:40] thanks everyone. [10:41] JaneW: well, it would be nice to have you as some kind of backup for the SoC work [10:41] and drink Amarula in Paris! [10:41] JaneW: where would we get that from when you're not coming? [10:41] doko: I think we can arrange that, I'd like to stay in touch with it anyway [10:41] Mithrandir: duty free ;) [10:41] JaneW: we'll miss you and your Amarula both ;-) [10:42] JaneW: take lady.. [10:42] and if you need anything.. you know where the godfather is [10:42] heno: could you take over summarizing our meetings for the newsletter starting next week? [10:43] mdz: yes, should be fine [10:43] JaneW: apart from that and SoC, is there anything else on your list which hasn't been handed off yet? [10:44] heno: great, thanks [10:44] JaneW: as long as nobody volunteers, I'm going to do that (at least you already did start briefing ;-P) [10:45] mdz: not really besides some UDS stuff, and the specs etc, the edubuntu team has been great at volunteering [10:45] JaneW: claire n. should be handling the remainder of the summit planning, yes? [10:45] mdz: and the meeting reminders etc... bt it is on the fridge, so it's pretty bot-like [10:45] mdz: yes except for the stuff silbs has asked me to do [10:45] JaneW: the stuff silbs asked you to do, is doable by the end of the week? [10:45] mdz: also there's the e-mail I receive I will handle it and/or forward it as appropriate as it comes in [10:46] mdz: I did remove my address as the reference on the various wiki pages I had added it to [10:46] JaneW: are you feeling any better? [10:46] mdz: I hope so yes, I just read the message properly this morning, I am not sure I understand the team speak requirement, but am going to try to find out... [10:46] JaneW: if you could forward me a copy, that'd be appreciated [10:47] mdz: I get a bit better during the day, but at night and in the morning I feel really rotten. I really hope the worst is over now . Thanks. [10:47] I've developed sinus infections as a complication of cold/flu before, no fun [10:48] thanks JaneW, and all the best === Khalid [n=chatzill@82-167-30-27.odsplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:48] Kamion: next? [10:48] misc: Huge amounts of bugmail, mostly Ubiquity. Preparing specs for Paris (done five, pondering revive-tasksel); ubiquity-advanced-partitioner prompted by aforementioned flood of bugmail. Various dapper-updates uploads, more to come. Will start on the big d-i merge today, probably (blocked on merging packaging toolchain). [10:49] migration-assistance: (This is my student's GSoC project.) I've seen an initial code drop and done a design and minimal code review on it; basic approach is mostly sound and I'm happy with his progress so far. [10:49] next-week: On holiday. [10:49] Kamion: enjoy your holiday - is it not your anniversary then (or soon?) === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:49] Kamion: am i still allowed to SMS you if we get the sparc bugs fixed? [10:50] Kamion: i am sure i can handle up to testing cdimages.. but for final release i think i will need your 31337 sk1775 [10:50] JaneW: couple of months, this is just a random holidday [10:50] fabbione: I will be nowhere near a computer [10:50] Kamion: ok.. have fun1 [10:50] fabbione: I can do releases for you. [10:50] Mithrandir: on releases.ubuntu.com ? [10:51] I can run Mithrandir through what needs to happen; it's a bit weird and will need manual assistance [10:51] that's just a mirror of lithium. [10:51] the scripts will get a few things wrong [10:51] Kamion: if you can do a dry run with Mithrandir before you go, that'd be good [10:51] Kamion, Mithrandir: up to you two.. i can't even be 100% sure evything will be fixed [10:51] will do [10:51] um, we need to discuss other things, but #ubuntu-devel after the meeting [10:51] ok, thanks [10:52] Keybuk: next? [10:52] fabbione: (SMS is fine, BTW, as long as you don't demand an answer within the hour :-)) [10:52] (this week) MoM: Working on a new source grabbing method for mom, instead of relying on external morgues. Currently finding all sources that I can for the backlog. [10:52] (this week) edgy: Prepared new udev, module-init-tools and usplash packages. [10:52] (this week) dapper: Fixed the pcmcia-cs utils bug harder *ahem* [10:52] (next week) specs: finish off spec drafts and get them on the wiki [10:52] (next week) edgy: Fix upstream's also-broken udev device enumeration [10:52] Kamion: don't worry.. i expect you to have fun :) not to be ready for me :) [10:53] Keybuk: how much luck are you having finding the missing sources? [10:53] mdz: I'm using several different archives; won't know what the hit/miss rate is until it's finished though [10:53] hopefully it'll be good enough [10:54] Keybuk: do we have a plan for the future so that we're sure to keep copies of what we need? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:54] or is that tbd in paris? [10:54] mdz: my plan for the future is that Launchpad should do it [10:54] The future plan is to import sid into LP. [10:55] that's unlikely to start happening before the merge starts [10:55] unless you know something I don't [10:55] infinity: do you plan to have chroots on the buildds for sid? [10:55] siretart: No, we're not BUILDING sid, we'll be importing a read-only copy. [10:56] I was rather thinking about personal package archives [10:56] mdz: you didn't specify the constraint for "future" :p [10:56] Keybuk: "edgy" [10:56] mdz: edgy plans are to use the scripts I've written [10:56] they basically keep our own equivalent of snapshot.dn [10:56] but without history we don't need or binaries [10:56] ok, so once we've filled in the gaps, they should give us what we need going forward [10:57] yeah [10:57] wfm [10:57] Keybuk: thanks [10:57] Mithrandir: next? [10:57] misc: post-release cleanups, thinking and writing up specs for Eft. Public holiday, getting started on SoC mentoring [10:57] next week: more spec preparation, get my space bar fixed so I stop losing spaces, start uploading syncs again, more SoC mentoring [10:58] Mithrandir: are you confident about getting 5-8 specs in for Paris by the end of the week? [10:59] yes === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:59] Mithrandir: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! [10:59] OH [10:59] I'm picking some off your suggestions list as well as drawing from a bunch of my own too. [10:59] pitti: thanks. :-) [10:59] happy birthday indeed === dholbach hugs Mithrandir! === mvo hugs Mithrandir === sfllaw hugs Mithrandir. [10:59] doko just had one as well === ogra hugs Mithrandir [11:00] and elmo! === ogra hugs as well :) [11:00] doko: HAPPY BIRTHDAY - when is the party? :-) === dholbach hugs doko [11:00] goodness, we need to get these on the fridge calendar ;-) [11:00] doko: happy belated birthday!! [11:00] thanks everybody. === mvo hugs doko [11:00] mdz++ :) [11:00] thank you :) [11:00] mdz: Yes, we should. === sfllaw hugs doko. [11:01] Mithrandir: ok, thanks [11:01] mvo: next? [11:01] Did: [11:01] (monday Pentecost) [11:01] - some 3rd party packages work/review [11:01] - SoC/spec work [11:01] - apt work (ddtp) [11:01] - smart work (apt-channel-sync) [11:01] - bug triage [11:01] Will do: [11:01] - preparing specs for paris (including resurrecting some dapper ones) [11:01] - more 3rd party app work [11:02] mvo: do you have enough spec ideas to occupy you in Paris? [11:02] if not I have all sorts of ideas for you :-) [11:02] mdz: yes, I'm confident in this :) [11:02] (both that you have enough ideas for both of us and that I will be able to have enough specs) [11:02] mvo: there seem to be at least two things being called 3rd party now [11:03] ? [11:03] our vendor-oriented repositories, and the install-packages-via-browser magic [11:03] oh, ok. "3rd party packages" means for me review/mail for the vendor repository [11:03] which wasabi has been talking about [11:04] one of them should be renamed to avoid confusion [11:04] ok [11:04] you and he can fight it out ;-) === mvo wins [11:04] his is apt-third-party I think [11:04] mvo: thanks [11:04] ogra: next? [11:04] * general: preparing a fix for missing cursors in edubuntu-artwork, discussing specs, preparing the merge of debians ltsp branch, packing g-s-s 2.14.2, SoC (willow spec changes) [11:04] g [11:04] * next-week: initial packaging of ltsp manager, more ltsp work (lots of changes in debian), preparing for paris, finishing spec writing and selecting edubuntu and ltsp specs [11:06] ogra: ltsp manager? is that the gui configurator? [11:06] yep [11:06] it has also a spec, so i can work "officially" on it :) [11:06] ogra: are you going to tackle the dhcp configuration issue and/or local devices for edgy? [11:07] local dev is my highs priority indeed [11:07] and the dhcp conf issue is at least solved for new installs in my local branch (in the udeb) [11:07] *highest [11:07] ogra: ok, if any further discussion is needed about dhcp, please get it on the agenda for paris. if you'd like to send me a diff to review, I'll look over it [11:08] ok, first i need to get the debian changes in [11:08] I think the best approach would be for that file to stop being a conffile in dhcp3 [11:08] the branch is pretty mixed up [11:08] thats the minimal requirement, yes [11:08] ok, thanks [11:08] ogra: Have you seen any more reports about that ip address exhaustion problem ? [11:08]