[12:07] <msikma> Our programmer just emptied the database of the wrong site.
[12:08] <msikma> Looks like we'll be working late tonight!
[12:08] <bersace> say what ?
[12:12] <msikma> He had to empty a database. Happily dropped all tables. Unfortunately, he used the wrong database which apparently, as he says, authorized his request with a cached password.
[12:42] <msikma> Ohh, he found a recent XML version of the database.
[12:43] <msikma> Great. So now all he has to do is write a script that converts that XML into MySQL tables.
[12:45] <bersace> but, which database ?
[12:45] <bersace> at your work ?
[12:45] <bersace> or about ubuntu-artwork ?
[12:45] <bersace> msikma: ping
[12:47] <msikma> Nah, it has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[12:47] <msikma> Just work-related stuff.
[01:15] <bersace> i posted a big e-mail about our wiki organisation
[01:15] <bersace> please check it and comment it
[01:15] <bersace> by mail if possible
[02:10] <msikma> Yeah, I've seen it. I agree with pretty much all you've said. Great thinking! I'm pretty busy right now, so I'll respond to it later.
[02:11] <msikma> Hmm... I wonder if Math.round() or >> 0 is faster for rounding numbers...
[05:16] <bersace> hello
[05:16] <bersace> i was cleaning my room with my mother, so i was absent quit some hours ^^
[05:16] <bersace> Have anybody a reaction considering Wiki reorganisation
[05:16] <bersace> ??
[05:36] <kyledye> bersace, i like it
[05:36] <kyledye> kind of cleans it up a bit
[05:37] <bersace> so msikma and kyledye are ok
[05:37] <bersace> what about troy_s
[05:37] <msikma> !@#$!@#$ bugs in ActionScript
[05:38] <msikma> It's such a beautiful day
[05:38] <msikma> And the working day is almost done
[05:38] <msikma> But I really should fix this
[05:39] <msikma> Works absolutely fine the first time, no matter which settings you use, but the second time the script is used, it messes up... I need to make it go not only from state A to B or A to C, but also from B to C.
[05:39] <msikma> Oh well, I'll fix it at some point.
[05:40] <bersace> msikma: please talk about ubuntu-artwork, not you *@! proprietary software mess
[05:40] <bersace> s/you/your/
[05:52] <msikma> I don't care about any of that.
[06:07] <troy_s> greetz bersace et al
[06:09] <troy_s> i love the idea of wiki structuring.  my only thoughts are to keep it streamlined.  not too many sub pages, only as many as needed.
[06:09] <troy_s> and bersace, before you start -- think in advance about all the cross links.
[06:09] <troy_s> the links will be a nightmare
[06:09] <bersace> yep
[06:09] <bersace> i know how to redirect :)
[06:09] <troy_s> glad you posted it... it has already started to evolve anyways.
[06:10] <troy_s> i think if you keep it as streamlined as the artwork team is now, we win.
[06:11] <troy_s> only thoughts are that we keep perhaps all NEW content in something like Drafts or Unsorted or whtaever...
[06:11] <troy_s> a singular dir for all of it.
[06:12] <troy_s> and with the sub pages thing that henrik has setup, it is easy to see material as soon as it is added.
[06:12] <bersace> For the page template
[06:12] <troy_s> yep
[06:13] <troy_s> less is more.
[06:13] <bersace> i would like to drop the title Sub Page and just put the a bold "subpages" with the list of subpages
[06:13] <troy_s> i think we need to keep our thoughts towards how a first time user would look at the pages.
[06:13] <bersace> that won't pollute the ToC
[06:13] <bersace> ok ?
[06:14] <troy_s> it might be nice to have a link to subpages from teh contents no?
[06:14] <troy_s> give it a bit of time on the mailing list too... just get your planning in place first.
[06:14] <troy_s> give the mailing list a day or two.
[06:14] <troy_s> ok workie time.
[06:15] <bersace> so you want to wait one day or two before applying changes ?
[06:22] <troy_s> bersace yes i think that is prudent.  give it two days for responses.
[06:22] <troy_s> in teh meantime, why don't you copy and adjust a mirror below your home page on the wiki?
[06:22] <troy_s> so that the existing stays, but the fresh can begin to be worked out without damaging the structure?
[06:23] <bersace> troy_s: what is my "home page on the wiki"
[06:30] <troy_s> bersace:  when you sign up for launchpad, you get a home page dir dedicated to you.
[06:31] <bersace> ok
[06:31] <troy_s> it is a good 'work' area
[06:32] <bersace> ok
[06:32] <bersace> that will lead to mass renaming :(
[06:32] <troy_s> well you can plop an outline in there
[06:32] <troy_s> without too much nightmare
[06:33] <bersace> ok
[06:34] <bersace> i really hate the one-cell-table in PageTemple
[06:35] <bersace> for ToC
[06:35] <troy_s> ???
[06:36] <troy_s> oh.. i just copied henriks.  it is clean and simple.
[06:45] <kyledye> wish they'd let me do a layout for ubuntu.com :(
[06:47] <bersace> troy_s: hey ! you are owner of ubuntu-art at launchpad !
[06:47] <bersace> greeeeaaaaaat !!!!!
[06:50] <bersace> I propose Incoming to replace Drafts and Propositions
[06:51] <kyledye> ?
[06:54] <bersace> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/%c3%89tienneBersac/ArtworkReOrganisation
[07:02] <kyledye> what can i do to help
[07:04] <bersace> review this page
[07:04] <bersace> add you propositions
[07:04] <bersace> complete it
[07:04] <bersace> and wait for troy_s to trigger the migration
[07:05] <bersace> in fact, that page should be ArtworkTeam/ReOrganisation :(
[07:14] <kyledye> ok
[07:15] <kyledye> bersace: do you think i could be involed with the template creations?
[07:15] <kyledye> involved*
[07:15] <bersace> yep
[07:15] <bersace> of course
[07:15] <bersace> i wish not only !
[07:16] <kyledye> awesome
[07:16] <kyledye> <-- web designer by trade :)
[07:16] <kyledye> it's my passion
[07:34] <kyledye> wtf is this launchpad thing
[08:17] <Snake> Can someone tell me what font the Ubuntu logo is in?
[08:18] <neodreams> ttf-ubuntu-title
[08:18] <neodreams> ;)
[08:18] <neodreams> package
[08:18] <Snake> Is there anyway I can get it not in package form? I need it for use one a..
[08:19] <neodreams> I can
[08:19] <neodreams> wait sec
[08:19] <Snake> Okay thanks man
[08:20] <neodreams> http://neodreams.ctech.ca/ubuntu.ttf
[08:20] <Snake> yay
[08:20] <neodreams> :)
[08:22] <Snake> Wow awesome set
[08:22] <neodreams> yep !
[08:22] <Snake> thanks again
[08:23] <neodreams> lol
[08:25] <kyledye> :)
[08:33] <kyledye> howdy nettogrof
[08:33] <nettogrof> hi