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| jak08 | why is it that this room is always silent? | 01:31 |
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| poningru | :) | 06:01 |
| klepas | moin | 06:02 |
| klepas | troy_s: ping | 06:02 |
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| Burgundavia | anybody here with a wacom tablet? | 06:40 |
| klepas | oh i wish :) | 06:42 |
| Burgundavia | the basics are only about $100 | 06:44 |
| klepas | i've been thinking about getting one now that i've got my laptop | 06:45 |
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| dum8d0g | hi people | 09:46 |
| dum8d0g | (sorry for my english, I'm from czech) | 09:46 |
| dum8d0g | I'm searching for ubuntu fonts (truetype) and some materials | 09:47 |
| dum8d0g | colors, vectors, photos and more.. | 09:47 |
| dum8d0g | I just want make better our page ubuntu.cz to be less different with ubuntu.com | 09:48 |
| dum8d0g | (yes I know, my english is really bad ;)) | 09:48 |
| dum8d0g | ok, i have.. | 09:53 |
| dum8d0g | :) | 09:54 |
| dum8d0g | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official | 09:54 |
| troy_s | greetz boyz and grrls. | 10:17 |
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| troy_s | klepas you in? | 11:10 |
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| klepas | troy_s: in now | 04:04 |
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| troy_s | hey bersace... | 04:29 |
| troy_s | added some comments to your wiki structure at your personal page there... | 04:29 |
| bersace | troy_s: thanks | 04:32 |
| bersace | We need to create a CategoryArtwork too. | 04:37 |
| troy_s | ??? | 04:40 |
| troy_s | i think you need to start a bulleted listing so we can 'see' how it will look when finished | 04:41 |
| troy_s | great work though bersace... the simplicity is going to help completely. | 04:41 |
| bersace | ok | 04:41 |
| bersace | done | 04:41 |
| troy_s | weekend meeting suggestion is great too... but the problem is that | 04:41 |
| troy_s | i am off to paris. | 04:41 |
| troy_s | hope to see you there :) | 04:41 |
| bersace | hh ! | 04:41 |
| troy_s | irc is a very bunk meeting technique in my opinion | 04:42 |
| bersace | i'm thinking about reusing ArtworkTeam logo in our PageTemplate | 04:42 |
| bersace | troy_s: meetings must be short | 04:42 |
| bersace | one hour, no more | 04:42 |
| troy_s | ber: yes and targetted. but i still have yet to see what folks are going to arrive at that we _cant_ in the mailing list | 04:42 |
| bersace | so IRC is a good way to dump a bunch of ideas and triage that later | 04:43 |
| troy_s | which is why i am sort of non-commital on the wiki organization for meetings and such. | 04:43 |
| troy_s | absolutely! | 04:43 |
| troy_s | braindump for certain | 04:43 |
| troy_s | i would say irc is wonderful | 04:43 |
| bersace | yep | 04:43 |
| troy_s | but we aren't at that stage yet | 04:43 |
| troy_s | when we get down to deciding motifs and such | 04:43 |
| troy_s | irc will be very important | 04:43 |
| troy_s | but really, we can poll and keep a flowing discourse on the mailing list | 04:43 |
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| bersace | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/%c3%89tienneBersac/ArtworkReOrganisation | 04:43 |
| bersace | Created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryArtwork | 04:58 |
| bersace | Added a nice icon in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/PageTemplate | 04:58 |
| bersace | Updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/%c3%89tienneBersac/ArtworkReOrganisation#head-73e7195ec66fefd074881d59f190f1971118c27c | 05:13 |
| troy_s | uncomfortable with being labeled as leader there bersace :) | 05:23 |
| troy_s | so pull me out of that until we have official proceedings and such. | 05:23 |
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| troy_s | bersace: new adjustments. | 05:43 |
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| bersace | troy_s: As you edit the Tree, it feels like you want to create Incoming sub pages | 06:16 |
| bersace | i mean subnamespace | 06:16 |
| bersace | such as Incoming/Documentation and Incoming/LooseIdeas | 06:17 |
| bersace | isn't it ? | 06:17 |
| bersace | Are Structure Documents Team Guidelines ? | 06:21 |
| bersace | How could we handle current developpement | 06:21 |
| bersace | ? | 06:21 |
| bersace | not in the wiki ? | 06:21 |
| bersace | we need wiki for polls, launchpad only allow to vote, not to show each choices in details as we need . | 06:22 |
| bersace | maybe should we just put poll's item's page in Incoming .... | 06:56 |
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| troy_s | polls seem like we should stick with launchpad for | 07:58 |
| troy_s | wiki is really an evolutionary process | 07:58 |
| troy_s | it is a great starting point (instead of telling people go xxx or yyy, just point them to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork or wherever) | 07:59 |
| bersace | hmmm | 08:13 |
| bersace | i don't suggest to use wiki to vote, just to have page that explains in details item. On page per item. | 08:14 |
| troy_s | yep | 08:14 |
| bersace | of course, wallpaper vote just use link to art.ubuntu.com as we did earlier | 08:14 |
| troy_s | well launchpad requires that you provide a wiki page for further details. | 08:14 |
| bersace | so we have to put some pages for e.g. Frozen etc. | 08:15 |
| bersace | ok | 08:15 |
| bersace | so where should we put those pages ? | 08:15 |
| bersace | Incoming ? | 08:15 |
| bersace | Evaluations ? | 08:15 |
| troy_s | art.ubuntu.com... thanks for reminding me... i'll email henrik now to see if we can factor in some sort of cvs use. | 08:15 |
| bersace | AnyThingElse ? | 08:15 |
| troy_s | well... | 08:15 |
| troy_s | let's for now leave the basic structure plus a little more refinement | 08:15 |
| troy_s | i think you have given it a good simple starting point | 08:15 |
| bersace | ok | 08:15 |
| troy_s | and hopefully things can 'fit in' below it as we need them. | 08:15 |
| bersace | so we can start applying changes ? | 08:16 |
| troy_s | right now, i think we need to resolve the whole team section. | 08:16 |
| bersace | ok | 08:16 |
| troy_s | i would still give it a little more time | 08:16 |
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| troy_s | for the folks who are going to contribute to contribute. | 08:16 |
| troy_s | lol | 08:16 |
| troy_s | we need to be as transparent and democratic as possible within the team | 08:16 |
| troy_s | or else people will get disillusioned. | 08:16 |
| troy_s | we also need to WORK, so it is a delicate balance between the two :) | 08:17 |
| troy_s | if we all keep doing what we have been doing, we can expect the same results. | 08:17 |
| troy_s | so that obviously doesn't work. that said, i think we are making good process. | 08:17 |
| troy_s | frank's document needs to be wikiized | 08:17 |
| troy_s | i wonder if there is an easy way to cut and paste... i guess a little wiki formatting would be easy enough. | 08:17 |
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| bersace | troy_s: which document from Frank ? | 08:48 |
| troy_s | check the mailing list | 08:51 |
| troy_s | he has a link to a pdf. | 08:51 |
| bersace | grabed | 08:52 |
| bersace | Frank is so a rocking guys !!! | 08:55 |
| bersace | :) | 08:55 |
| troy_s | clever guy | 08:56 |
| troy_s | and he believes in working on leaving paper trails | 08:56 |
| troy_s | which is important in community efforts | 08:56 |
| troy_s | otherwise they just dissappear into the vapor of mailing lists and such | 08:56 |
| troy_s | even compiling wiki pages and gathering data is critical work. | 08:57 |
| bersace | agree | 08:59 |
| bersace | May should we have a Documents namespace rather than a Documentation, that include such highly important documents | 08:59 |
| bersace | ? | 08:59 |
| bersace | and including documentations ? | 09:00 |
| troy_s | documentation is broad enough i think. | 09:02 |
| troy_s | remember, we really need to let the complexity flow from the simplicity at the top. | 09:02 |
| troy_s | otherwise we end up square one again... scattered stuffs everywhere. | 09:02 |
| bersace | ok | 09:03 |
| bersace | That was just a naming question | 09:03 |
| bersace | i wonder if Documentation is only for Technical documentation or also for such documents | 09:04 |
| troy_s | Seems to suggest everything in document compiled form? | 09:04 |
| troy_s | That is a good thing I think. Pretty broad, and you can clarify with subdirs. | 09:04 |
| bersace | ok | 09:05 |
| bersace | read | 09:18 |
| bersace | That document is so good | 09:18 |
| bersace | i completely agree | 09:18 |
| bersace | troy_s: do you want do wikize it or at least the little itemized summaries ? | 09:19 |
| bersace | I think that Frank should do it in its wiki home page | 09:19 |
| troy_s | yep. | 09:22 |
| troy_s | agree. | 09:22 |
| troy_s | if you mail frank, i am sure he will give you the doc or wahtever he generated it from. | 09:30 |
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| bersace | sorry | 09:32 |
| bersace | i restarted my session to test tapioca | 09:32 |
| troy_s | wtf is tapioca? a pudding? | 09:43 |
| bersace | lol | 09:47 |
| bersace | http://tapioca-voip.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/ScreenShots | 09:47 |
| troy_s | ahh | 09:47 |
| bersace | didn't work :( | 09:57 |
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