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mdke | Plug_: are you the chap who posted the mailing list recently? | 12:43 |
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Burgwork | mdke, on my todo list, but I have been at work all day | 12:45 |
mdke | Burgwork: no prob, I'm going to reply now, work is but a distant memory | 12:45 |
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mdke | Burgwork: by the way, your idea yesterday for automatic talk pages: it might be possible to do it with the PageComment2 macro. It is basically a comment box which the reader can enter a comment into, and we might be able to make it use a talk page by default | 12:54 |
LaserJock | oh, cool | 12:55 |
mdke | it basically creates a forum effect | 12:56 |
Burgwork | mdke, that works | 12:57 |
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mdke | what do people think of giving up with the /forum section on the wiki, it's not really working. WikiTeam/Issues seems to propose getting rid of it. We can work productively with forum contributors without it, I think | 01:11 |
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Burgwork | mdke, I like it | 01:17 |
Burgwork | the idea, not the /forum section | 01:17 |
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mdke | I'm making a DocumentationTemplate too | 01:18 |
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mdke | there are some cool macros we can use | 01:23 |
LaserJock | mdke: at least somebody's excited ;-) | 01:26 |
mdke | LaserJock: you need a holiday | 01:26 |
crimsun_ | no, he needs more work =] | 01:26 |
mdke | LaserJock: I've heard Paris is nice this time of year | 01:26 |
LaserJock | mdke: dude, I have to write specs, no play time for me | 01:27 |
LaserJock | btw, I added a doc spec today | 01:27 |
mdke | that will get you excited, no? | 01:27 |
mdke | what spec? | 01:28 |
LaserJock | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/scripting-for-users-doc | 01:28 |
LaserJock | but I haven't written the wiki part yet | 01:28 |
LaserJock | heck, I've got half written forum posts, specs in progress, most of a package | 01:29 |
LaserJock | and I'm trying to discuss work with my undergrad | 01:30 |
LaserJock | Paris is starting to sound nice :-) | 01:30 |
mdke | ffs, ctrl click doesn't work properly in launchpad | 01:30 |
Burgwork | mdke, does for me | 01:30 |
mdke | Burgwork: go to the list of specs, and ctrl click one which is down the page | 01:31 |
mdke | Burgwork: it is impossible to click the right one because the page jumps around while you click | 01:31 |
Burgwork | works for me | 01:31 |
Burgwork | oh how I wish I was going to Paris | 01:32 |
LaserJock | why? | 01:32 |
Burgwork | because it will be cool | 01:32 |
mdke | Burgwork: ah, it only happens when I have the Find box open | 01:32 |
Burgwork | ah, ancient version of epiphany here | 01:33 |
Burgwork | so no find bar | 01:33 |
mdke | (and I am clicking on something which is highlighted as the result of a search) | 01:34 |
LaserJock | yeah, I noticed the find + click was weird | 01:34 |
mdke | maybe it's an epiphany bug | 01:35 |
LaserJock | Burgwork: yeah, I should be cool. I'm starting to get nervous. It has been so painless to setup I keep thinking something's going to go wrong | 01:35 |
LaserJock | s/i?it/ | 01:35 |
LaserJock | man I can't type | 01:36 |
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Burgundavia | Seveas: got your msg. Sorry, I was removing the aptitude instructions. I have reworked to do both of our changes (different packages and removal of specific installation method) | 05:26 |
Burgundavia | anybody know who Warbo is? | 05:53 |
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nixternal | have no clue Burgundavia | 06:13 |
Burgundavia | nixternal: whomever he is, he likes to write a great deal | 06:13 |
nixternal | however: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OrinocoMonitorKismet2005Hoary has been completed...and I think it needs a name change and have that hoary one redirect | 06:14 |
nixternal | where is he writing? | 06:14 |
nixternal | is it good? | 06:14 |
Burgundavia | just too wordy | 06:14 |
nixternal | ahhh | 06:14 |
jsgotangco | hey | 06:15 |
nixternal | proposed name change for that: OrinocoWiFiKismet | 06:15 |
Burgundavia | what about under WifiDocs? | 06:15 |
nixternal | it can go there | 06:15 |
Burgundavia | /OrinocoKismet | 06:15 |
nixternal | WifiDocs/OrinocoKismet | 06:15 |
nixternal | good deal | 06:15 |
nixternal | done... | 06:15 |
nixternal | redirect the old page i shall | 06:15 |
Burgundavia | can anybody confirm that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MappingWindowsKey no longer seems to work? | 06:15 |
Burgundavia | this needs a better solution: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackageCDs | 06:16 |
nixternal | i will look into that..because i want to remap mine...as of right now it doesn't do anything | 06:19 |
Burgundavia | thanks | 06:20 |
Burgundavia | I am getting wierd results | 06:21 |
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Burgundavia | nixternal: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/12153 | 06:23 |
Ubug2 | Malone bug 12153 in control-center "Cannot use Windows key in keyboard shortcuts" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] | 06:23 |
nixternal | roger that | 06:24 |
Burgundavia | now lets watch the artwork team try and organize a meeting! | 06:24 |
nixternal | haha | 06:25 |
Burgundavia | who needs soap operas when you have the artwork team? | 06:25 |
klepas | Burgundavia: i just contacted cvd about it :) | 06:25 |
klepas | Burgundavia: lollers | 06:25 |
klepas | a meeting should be happening within the next week or so | 06:25 |
nixternal | Burgundavia: that bug starts out with the fact the guy just upgraded TO Hoary...how can i confirm that one? breezy is the oldest here | 06:26 |
klepas | actually... you folks are invited too | 06:26 |
jsgotangco | cvd? will the sabdfl attend that? | 06:26 |
klepas | yes | 06:26 |
Burgundavia | nixternal: I just tested breezy | 06:26 |
jsgotangco | ah that's why | 06:26 |
klepas | he's going to 'chair' it | 06:26 |
nixternal | i can test dapper/kubuntu | 06:26 |
klepas | make sure things stay on track :) | 06:26 |
jsgotangco | too bad cvd isnt going to paris...heard she's 7 months on the way | 06:27 |
klepas | anyhow... you guys are quite welcome... would be nice to talk to some marvelous people from a working, organised team :) | 06:27 |
Burgundavia | jsgotangco: you serious? | 06:27 |
Burgundavia | jsgotangco: that is going to make Mark's life fun | 06:28 |
jsgotangco | Burgundavia: yes she told me about it a few weeks ago in a phone conversation | 06:28 |
Burgundavia | jsgotangco: you get to have phone conversations with them? | 06:28 |
jsgotangco | that's why clan is the one organising stuff at the moment | 06:28 |
Burgundavia | clan? | 06:29 |
jsgotangco | well not that frequent, only when there is a need | 06:29 |
jsgotangco | claire newman | 06:29 |
Burgundavia | ah, the other claire | 06:29 |
Burgundavia | is hard at Userful right now. There is a major rethink of how we do things and the victoria office just lost somebody | 06:32 |
rob | hmm, I think I might have picked up another error in the packaging guide.. | 06:32 |
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rob | If a Debian package has been changed in Ubuntu, it has ubuntuX (where X is the Ubuntu revision number) appended to the end of the Debian version. So if the Debian hello package was changed by Ubuntu, the version string would be 2.1.1-1ubuntu1. If a package for the application does not exist in Debian, then the Ubuntu version is 0 (e.g., 2.1.1-0ubuntu1). | 06:32 |
jsgotangco | send a resume it might work | 06:32 |
Burgundavia | jsgotangco: ya. I will play at one this weekend | 06:33 |
rob | shouldn't the 1 and 0 be the other way around on that last revision example? | 06:33 |
Burgundavia | rob: no | 06:33 |
Burgundavia | because if there is no debian version, we want debian -1 to overwrite any Ubuntu numbers | 06:33 |
rob | ok, that doesn't read very well then | 06:34 |
Burgundavia | no, it doesn't | 06:34 |
jsgotangco | oohh germany won | 06:35 |
rob | jsgotangco, yeah | 06:35 |
Burgundavia | nixternal: if you want my eternal love, can you go around and move all the docs about wireless to under wifi docs | 06:35 |
Burgundavia | and poland lost | 06:35 |
nixternal | sure can | 06:35 |
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Burgundavia | nixternal: make certain to check for redirects | 06:35 |
Burgundavia | nixternal: PageHits is good place to see if something is popular or not | 06:36 |
nixternal | Burgundavia: that window key map i don't believe will work with kde cuz the .xstartup is ignored | 06:36 |
nixternal | ok Burgundavia thax | 06:36 |
nixternal | thanks | 06:36 |
nixternal | ;) | 06:36 |
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Burgundavia | well, I have killed 3 pages from CatCleanup tonight. How many have you done? | 06:39 |
jsgotangco | klepas: surely you are aware that June 17-18 are the days people start coming over to paris with 18 in the evening having dinner | 06:40 |
klepas | oh, that does suck | 06:41 |
klepas | do you think Thursday/Friday then might be more applicable? | 06:41 |
Burgundavia | Laser_away: deal with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackageBuilding | 06:42 |
jsgotangco | yeah i think thats workable | 06:42 |
jsgotangco | Burgundavia: we have a wacom tablet at work, how it connects (serial/usb) not sure but i will check when i come back to office | 06:43 |
Burgundavia | jsgotangco: ok, thanks | 06:44 |
Burgundavia | jsgotangco: I posted something to artwork | 06:44 |
Burgundavia | kill? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual | 06:44 |
jsgotangco | would be interesting to see how it works im gimp and krita | 06:44 |
klepas | has anyone had any luck with a lower-end wacom using Ubuntu and gimp? | 06:45 |
jsgotangco | i havent even tried it but i will next week | 06:46 |
Burgundavia | suggestions for a snack? I have a bad case of the munchies | 06:54 |
Laser_away | Burgundavia: is it ok to delete pages? how should I deal with stuff that should more or less go away | 06:56 |
Laser_away | with packaging stuff, I don't think we need anythin in CatDoc really | 06:57 |
Burgundavia | Laser_away: if it has no links, then yes, go ahead | 06:57 |
Burgundavia | WikiGuide lists the rules | 06:58 |
Laser_away | I hate wiping out other peoples work, but that page for instance has nothing of value on it | 06:59 |
Burgundavia | meh, I have no issue | 07:00 |
jsgotangco | oh crud i am still in my locale | 07:00 |
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LaserJock | Burgundavia: do you google the URL to find links? | 07:02 |
Burgundavia | LaserJock: yep, the whole url | 07:02 |
Burgundavia | then click teh 2nd link "find pages with this link" | 07:02 |
LaserJock | ah, ok | 07:03 |
LaserJock | thanks | 07:03 |
jsgotangco | speaking of google, have anyone tried spreadsheets | 07:03 |
Burgundavia | nope | 07:05 |
LaserJock | Burgundavia: done | 07:06 |
LaserJock | Burgundavia: do we really need a Howto (not very well done) for building KDE from CVS for 5.04? | 07:10 |
LaserJock | that was imported from the old wiki :-) | 07:10 |
Burgundavia | no, not really | 07:11 |
LaserJock | done | 07:16 |
Burgundavia | how big is a single layer dvd again? | 07:19 |
LaserJock | 4.3 GB perhaps? | 07:21 |
LaserJock | HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch is going to be a bugger I think | 07:21 |
LaserJock | It's from Hoary and I've pretty much covered the content in the packaging guide | 07:23 |
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LaserJock | Burgundavia: could I take CatDoc off a page that I plan on using for the PG and then deleting later? | 07:26 |
Burgundavia | LaserJock: yes | 07:26 |
Burgundavia | hey Madpilot | 07:26 |
Madpilot | hi | 07:27 |
LaserJock | hi Madpilot | 07:27 |
Madpilot | gah... long f'ing day - 9-1 at job #1, 4-8 @ job #2... | 07:27 |
LaserJock | yeah, that is long | 07:28 |
nixternal | <-- IDIOT | 07:30 |
Madpilot | nixternal, ?? | 07:30 |
nixternal | lol...instead of just renaming a page to move it...i have been doing it the long way | 07:31 |
nixternal | copy, paste into a new page and so on | 07:31 |
nixternal | so what could have been a 10 minute job has been about an hour | 07:31 |
nixternal | ;) | 07:31 |
Madpilot | nixternal, the 'long way' is better in some cases, it leaves the old page behind to set a re-direct up on | 07:31 |
nixternal | well ya...oh wait...that is what we wanted to do | 07:31 |
nixternal | so im not an idiot ;) | 07:32 |
nixternal | im still an idiot for thinking like an idiot | 07:32 |
nixternal | back to work ;) | 07:32 |
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jsgotangco | gee its so hot here lately | 07:37 |
Madpilot | lucky you | 07:37 |
jsgotangco | its 33C! | 07:37 |
Madpilot | the weather sucked here most of the day, it only started to clear & warm up around 5 or 6pm | 07:37 |
Burgundavia | better in oak bay | 07:37 |
Burgundavia | it was sunny at abot 3pm | 07:37 |
nixternal | TeamWiFi ?? | 07:57 |
jsgotangco | lol | 07:58 |
nixternal | sounds like a serious wireless gang ;) | 07:58 |
Madpilot | we've got a WiFi Team? | 07:59 |
nixternal | not that i know of...but since you put it like that...is there even a network team ? | 07:59 |
nixternal | ;) | 07:59 |
nixternal | lets break down every possible thing with ubuntu | 07:59 |
nixternal | i will create a Kwallet team | 08:00 |
jsgotangco | what's the focus on that? | 08:00 |
jsgotangco | "people who use KWallet" | 08:00 |
jsgotangco | ? | 08:01 |
nixternal | your guess is as good as mine...but why not create it..seems like the "cool" thing to do :) | 08:01 |
jsgotangco | =) | 08:01 |
nixternal | this wiki will drink you to drive | 08:01 |
nixternal | or drink you to fly in some people's cases ;) | 08:01 |
Burgundavia | hmm, CatCleanup is really coming down | 08:17 |
nixternal | slowly but surely | 08:17 |
nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire5003WLCiWifi | 08:22 |
nixternal | ^^ transfer also? | 08:23 |
Madpilot | leave the LaptopTesting stuff where it is | 08:24 |
nixternal | then everything with the WifiDocs transfer is over | 08:25 |
nixternal | all WiFi stuff is now located under WifiDocs/ | 08:25 |
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dsas | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeComputerMenu kill ? | 09:10 |
Burgundavia | dsas: pop the trunk! | 09:14 |
nixternal | lol | 09:15 |
Burgundavia | night | 09:16 |
dsas | heh http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pop+the+trunk | 09:17 |
jsgotangco | ohh yeaahhh | 09:20 |
nixternal | haha | 09:21 |
nixternal | gahahah | 09:21 |
nixternal | dsas: stay away from 2 and 3 ;) | 09:22 |
dsas | 2 and 3 were the definitions I were familiar with :/ | 09:22 |
nixternal | hahahah | 09:25 |
dsas | Do I need to get an ack on every CatCleanup page I delete? Or should I just bin them if it's obvious? | 09:30 |
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Seveas | Burgwork, but keep in mind that apt-get build dep should not be changed. There is no package 'build-dep'... | 09:39 |
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jsgotangco | apt-get build-dep packagename | 09:51 |
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mdke | morning | 10:44 |
pygi | hey mdke | 10:44 |
jsgotangco | morning | 10:44 |
pygi | hey jsgotangco | 10:45 |
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mdke | glatzor: what do you mean? | 05:58 |
mdke | (changing channel) | 05:58 |
glatzor | you seemed to be annoyed by some of my bug reports that only referred to minor issues. | 05:59 |
mdke | glatzor: did I? | 06:00 |
mdke | I don't think so | 06:00 |
glatzor | mdke: then it's all ok :) | 06:02 |
glatzor | mdke: I didn't know how helpful reports about minor issues are for you, since the documentation is frozen | 06:03 |
mdke | glatzor: once we've organised our ideas for dapper, we'll go through them. | 06:03 |
glatzor | mdke: I have translated and so reviewed further 200 strings and 250 still are missing. But I don't know if I find the time in the next weeks to fill the corresponding bugs. | 06:05 |
mdke | glatzor: no worries. You can file them whenever you like in the next 6 months or so. Or you can grab our trunk later and submits some patches to fix any more problems you see | 06:06 |
glatzor | mdke: I don't know if I have got the additional time to even provide patches. | 06:06 |
mdke | glatzor: ok, no worries | 06:07 |
glatzor | mdke: do you know how the translation of the ubuntu guides could be reused for the kubuntu guides? | 06:07 |
mdke | glatzor: rosetta shows you suggestions for strings that are already translated elsewhere | 06:08 |
glatzor | it is quite discouraging to see a lot of common strings that only differ by the package name and Ubuntu/Kubuntu | 06:08 |
glatzor | I don't use Rosetta, instead I translate them locally using gtranslator. | 06:08 |
mdke | you could use Rosetta, if you like. Or just upload a po for the Ubuntu guide to Kubuntu, it will merge strings that are the same | 06:09 |
glatzor | mdke: I will write an email to the translators list. perhaps somebody found a nice solution. | 06:16 |
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mgalvin | hey guys | 06:20 |
mgalvin | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue2 is ready for a quick review if anyone has time | 06:21 |
mgalvin | gotta run out for a few min, be back in a hour or so | 06:21 |
mgalvin | (thanks in advance) | 06:21 |
mgalvin | trappist: ^^^ | 06:25 |
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LaserJock | can I get a wiki expert's opinion of wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuScienctists ? | 10:00 |
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n1c0las | LaserJock: Although I am by no means a wiki expert I think it is an excellent overview | 10:03 |
LaserJock | mdke or Burgwork: should ^^ be in CatDoc? | 10:04 |
LaserJock | n1c0las: is it too long for one page do you think? | 10:04 |
n1c0las | With Image Processing Tools you might include ImageMagick (sp?) | 10:05 |
n1c0las | LaserJock:The navigation aid on the top right hand helps a lot in this large page | 10:06 |
LaserJock | yeah, I think I'd be totally lost with out the table of contents | 10:07 |
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LaserJock | Corey! | 10:07 |
n1c0las | I don knwo if you did this on purpose but I also miss the tools to create tutorials or courses such as Moodle | 10:08 |
LaserJock | hmm | 10:08 |
LaserJock | I think it more targeted towards research but that is a good point | 10:09 |
n1c0las | In a scientific environment there is much need for this type of courseware | 10:09 |
n1c0las | LaserJock: you're welcome | 10:09 |
n1c0las | I can see what your point is too, for this page | 10:09 |
LaserJock | if we were to break it up into sub pages | 10:10 |
n1c0las | Maybe you could break it up and use Categories to pull it all together | 10:12 |
Burgundavia | hey LaserJock | 10:13 |
LaserJock | I was just looking for you Burgundavia | 10:14 |
Burgundavia | LaserJock: and you have found me | 10:14 |
LaserJock | I'm looking at wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuScientists | 10:14 |
LaserJock | and I wondered if it should be in CatDoc | 10:14 |
Burgundavia | and now I am too | 10:14 |
n1c0las | LaserJock: the british linux magazine LinuxFormat has a review of several Astronomy packages on Linux. It is in the March 2006 issue. | 10:17 |
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LaserJock | hmm | 10:18 |
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Burgundavia | LaserJock: it should be renamed to ScientificApps and renamed, yes | 10:18 |
LaserJock | Burgundavia: added to CatDoc? | 10:23 |
Burgundavia | LaserJock: yep | 10:23 |
LaserJock | do you think it is too long? | 10:24 |
Burgundavia | not really | 10:26 |
LaserJock | ok | 10:28 |
LaserJock | I haven't really worked on it much | 10:28 |
LaserJock | but there was a bunch of work done on it yestreday | 10:28 |
LaserJock | I'm really pretty impressed with it | 10:29 |
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n1c0las | LaserJock: it looks quite extensive | 10:35 |
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apokryphos | http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing -> "The Ubuntu team is committed to Free and Open Source Software. The exact details of what that means can lead people into a very long debate indeed, often ending up with both sides in violent agreement." | 10:48 |
LaserJock | hi apokryphos ;-) | 10:48 |
apokryphos | typo? Violent disagreement? | 10:48 |
apokryphos | hello =) | 10:48 |
LaserJock | lol | 10:48 |
LaserJock | I think that might be a typo | 10:49 |
Burgundavia | no, I don't think it is | 10:51 |
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apokryphos | hardly a common expression, but furthermore doesn't seem quite right from the context | 10:52 |
Burgundavia | yes it does | 10:52 |
apokryphos | "you can have very long debates that end you up very firmly agreeing" | 10:52 |
Burgundavia | no, that is wrong | 10:53 |
Burgundavia | long debates often lead to disagreement | 10:53 |
apokryphos | exactly | 10:53 |
Burgundavia | the current wording is good English | 10:53 |
Burgundavia | and conveys the meaning | 10:53 |
apokryphos | I never argued the inaccuracy of the English | 10:54 |
LaserJock | violent and agreement seem a little oxymoronic | 10:54 |
apokryphos | I argued that the writer there probably doesn't mean to say "violent agreement" | 10:54 |
apokryphos | Burgundavia: are you sure you know what it says above? | 10:54 |
Burgundavia | oh, wait, hmm | 10:54 |
crimsun_ | it should be violent disagreement. | 10:54 |
apokryphos | =) | 10:54 |
crimsun_ | violent agreement has a different but not opposing connotation | 10:55 |
Burgundavia | you are right, I misread that | 10:55 |
Burgundavia | I will fix it | 10:55 |
Burgundavia | my mind put in disagreement | 10:55 |
apokryphos | same with the author of the article, I'm sure 8) | 10:56 |
Burgundavia | fixed | 10:56 |
crimsun_ | LaserJock: they're not. Heated debates can be civil and can "conclude" with all parties concurring. | 10:56 |
LaserJock | but violent? that implies non-civil to me | 10:56 |
Burgundavia | yes, it can get very non-civil | 10:57 |
crimsun_ | violent doesn't imply non-civil | 10:57 |
Burgundavia | have you ever seen debian debate a license? | 10:57 |
LaserJock | yeah, a little bit | 10:57 |
apokryphos | depends on context; I wouldn't say it was necessary in the case of debate | 10:57 |
Burgundavia | random stupid link --> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5067912.stm | 10:57 |
crimsun_ | martial arts tournaments are violent and civil. | 10:57 |
LaserJock | yeah | 10:58 |
Burgundavia | yes, but license and freenes debates can quickly sink to non-civil | 10:58 |
LaserJock | Burgundavia: lol @ pic | 10:59 |
LaserJock | Burgundavia: I do think the "Ubuntu is an entirely open source operating system built around the Linux kernel." | 11:03 |
Burgundavia | and? | 11:03 |
LaserJock | statment is perhaps not accurate | 11:03 |
Burgundavia | I don't want to make huge changes to such pages without confirmation | 11:03 |
LaserJock | well that is the desktop guide so there really isn't anythin we can do about that right now | 11:03 |
LaserJock | but that was the only point that I found very valid | 11:04 |
LaserJock | the "All of the application | 11:04 |
LaserJock | software installed by default is Free Software." one clearly doesn't include the next sentence | 11:05 |
Burgundavia | I have got myself in a nice pickle. I have lost my visa card and my laptop power supply. I am leaving for a trip on Tues and need the power supply. But I can't buy a new one because I have no visa card :( | 11:05 |
LaserJock | yikes | 11:05 |
Burgundavia | last time I used it was the 11th of may | 11:09 |
Burgundavia | so it has not been used for fraud, but still | 11:11 |
LaserJock | hmm, I wish I could get MLs as RSS feeds | 11:19 |
crimsun_ | which MLs? | 11:19 |
crimsun_ | LaserJock: allow me to {re,}introduce you to gmane. http://gmane.org/rss.php | 11:21 |
LaserJock | oh, like debian MLs | 11:21 |
LaserJock | man, gmane rocks my socks off! | 11:23 |
mpt | LaserJock, why just mailing lists? Why not all e-mail? :-) | 11:25 |
LaserJock | well, I just want to be able to skim through Debian MLs without having to subscribe | 11:26 |
LaserJock | yes, the one I was looking for tetex-maintainers | 11:28 |
LaserJock | now, I feel like an idiot that I haven't used this before | 11:30 |
LaserJock | crimsun_: thanks dude, I don't know what I would do without you sometimes. Probably be in the technological stone age :-) | 11:37 |
crimsun_ | LaserJock: the intarweb is a big place. I don't know the half of it. | 11:38 |
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LaserJock | hi manicka | 11:45 |
manicka | hi | 11:45 |
LaserJock | hmm, epiphany is bugging me now | 11:58 |
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