[12:00] <boricua> caskey: i mean 4 partitiones
[12:00] <opitwin> ernoins: Are you there?
[12:00] <Jowi> good evening
[12:00] <crimsun_> Renault: right, and/or usability focus
[12:00] <cherwin> Renault: Xu Ku and Ub are different in graphics
[12:00] <mad_phoenix> how would i go about adding a secondary keyboard to my laptop?  just put it in xorg.conf?
[12:00] <ernoins> opitwin: yes
[12:00] <Renault> yes
[12:00] <capiCrimm> Renault, yeah, desktop env., but also window managers. Xubunutu uses blackbox I think.
[12:00] <cherwin> Edu is for schools
[12:00] <opitwin> JowiL good evening
[12:00] <crimsun_> (Xfce -> Xubuntu)
[12:00] <Renault> but Edubuntu ?
[12:00] <gnuts>  cherwin, i must not be following your instructions well. my root tail terminal gives me no prompt, though I can still type and get no response, a second terminal no matter what command I enter I get no change in the tail terminal
[12:01] <cherwin> and nubuntu is for network specialist
[12:01] <ernoins> opitwin: The only options I get are windows options... not like boot from cd, etc... it's just boot to safemode, etc.
[12:01] <Jowi> capiCrimm: actually, xubuntu use Xfce
[12:01] <Sivik> does anyone here view .cbr files?
[12:01] <uXp> anyone know what  2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is?!
[12:01] <cherwin> that's odd
[12:01] <cherwin> anyway can you post your fstab?
[12:01] <crimsun_> uXp: of...?
[12:01] <pharmakom> A kernel vesion?
[12:01] <gnuts> sure
[12:01] <ernoins> opitwin:  I am pressing F2... Should I go in through the bios to tell it to boot from the cd?
[12:01] <opitwin> ernoins: yes
[12:01] <h4v0k> ok can someone help me run this game
[12:01] <uXp> well here is my error libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:01] <Renault> I don't understand its characteristic although it is for education
[12:02] <trippyskippy> h4v0k, once its executable change into its directory and do "./filename"
[12:02] <uXp> renaul..simpler for kids?
[12:02] <pequatre> hi there. anyone could tell me what's www-data's default password ?
[12:02] <Renault> yes
[12:02] <gnuts> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[12:02] <gnuts> #
[12:02] <gnuts> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[12:02] <gnuts> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[12:02] <gnuts> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0	1	
[12:02] <gnuts> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:02] <gnuts> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:02] <cherwin> Renault: if you want to install ubuntu just go for ubuntu or kubuntu
[12:02] <gnuts> /dev/hdb1	/home/drive2		ext3	defaults,errors=remount-ro 0	1
[12:02] <gnomefreak> gnuts: use pastebin
[12:02] <Jowi> gnuts: please use pastebin
[12:02] <opitwin> ernoins: you go to the Bios usually by pressing F1 or F2 right when your computer starts
[12:02] <gnuts> sorry
[12:02] <pharmakom> Edubuntu is the same as ubuntu with additional educational software installed and a kiddie look to it.
[12:02] <capiCrimm> Jowi, there is another one that uses blackbox. It's goal is security... can't find it on google, though. Sounds like xubunut
[12:02] <xcoder> somebody can help me to setup a tvtuner & tvtime, looks like tvtuner is ok, but received just 1 channel ... and no sound   .pls help
[12:03] <uXp> anyhting crimsun?
[12:03] <Renault> pharmakom> already installed ?
[12:03] <ernoins> opitwin: yes, that sounds familiar.  However, I can't seem to access the bios, only the shitty proprietary window startup options.
[12:03] <clinea> is there a metapackage for development tools?
[12:03] <h4v0k> ./el.x86.linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:03] <pharmakom> Renault: I put it on a couple of workstations at work.
[12:03] <clinea> I tried to install nvidia drivers from nvidia and Ubuntu slapped me down pretty hard
[12:03] <h4v0k> me confused
[12:03] <opitwin> ernoins: you have to hold the button right when you turn it on
[12:03] <Jowi> capiCrimm: I haven't seen anything specific for it other than the usual blackbox package. I have to admit I haven't searched for anything like it though :)
[12:04] <trippyskippy> clinea,  no because there are thousands of development tools
[12:04] <ocx32> and whats the service to enable pop3 email on my server?
[12:04] <trippyskippy> ocx32, fetchmail
[12:04] <cherwin> you're fstab seems okay gnuts, i only never used the 'errors=remount-ro' part, try doing it without that
[12:04] <phanter> hello. I would like to clean out the modules that are loaded during boot. How can I do this in a safe way? How can I figure out what I am actually using?
[12:04] <trippyskippy> ocx32,  sendmail i mean lol :)
[12:04] <capiCrimm> Jowi, just found it on wiki. nUbuntu. . . there are so many ubuntu derivitives its crazy.
[12:04] <pharmakom> Anyone know how to get ubuntu to lock my laptop when I close the lid?
[12:04] <Jowi> capiCrimm: DSL (damn small linux) uses fluxbox which is based on blackbox.
[12:04] <cherwin> and afterwards type in dmesg
[12:04] <uXp> anyone know what  2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is?!
[12:05] <xcoder> somebody can help me to setup a tvtuner & tvtime, looks like tvtuner is ok, but received just 1 channel ... and no sound   .pls help
[12:05] <Jowi> capiCrimm: nUbuntu. hehe, first time I've heard that one
[12:05] <opitwin> ernoins: If that doesn't work try pressing F11 and you should get a boot menu that allows to to select what you would like to boot from
[12:05] <caskey> boricua the space is all being used.  Partition numbers need not be sequential or laid out in any particular order.  Heck they can even overlap, something which is used for useful purposes in other OSes.
[12:05] <gnuts> I have, and followed the wiki instructions for second drives. when it was ntfs it worked just fine. wierd
[12:05] <uXp> anyone know what  2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is?!
[12:05] <opitwin> ernoins: And when the boot menu appears select your CD Drive
[12:05] <boricua> caskey: i see thanks
[12:05] <trippyskippy> uXp,  its a version number of a package
[12:06] <uXp> how do i install it becasue i get this error libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:06] <runes> In cfdisk which partition type is ext3?
[12:06] <ernoins> opitwin: I get the same old shit
[12:06] <Renault> upx>you see in synaptic
[12:06] <opitwin> Same with F11
[12:06] <opitwin> ernoins: Same with F11
[12:06] <ernoins> opitwin:  yes, in fact I have pressed all of the function keys
[12:06] <boricua> i click install so in a few minutes i'll see what is this buzz about ubuntu!!!!! i had ran slack nicely on this cheap laptop for several years, just trying to see something diferent
[12:06] <salah> i have a little problem with my soundcard, it's on a HP laptop, and the sound works fine, but when I plug in a headset, the speakers should stop making sound, but it is still doing. any idea how I can fix this?
[12:07] <uXp> what renault?
[12:07] <opitwin> ernoins: Are you holding them right after the pc is turned on
[12:07] <Larsson-Sweden> I want to run OpenOffice with GTK2. How can i do that? openoffice.org2-gnome is installed.
[12:07] <ernoins> opitwin: yes sir
[12:07] <jbirdAngel> hello, how do i install gnash
[12:07] <clinea> how complicated is it to install a Codeweavers RPM?
[12:07] <Renault> upx>you can know the kernel version ?
[12:07] <gnuts> where can I find pastebin instructions?
[12:07] <trippyskippy> !pastebin
[12:07] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:07] <uXp> 2.115 or osemhting
[12:08] <uXp> shoot, what the code to fin out again?
[12:08] <Jowi> salah: you're sure the headphone jack is not faulty? I mean physically broken?
[12:08] <trippyskippy> gnuts copy and paste into it, submit the page, and then lnk the URL in here
[12:08] <gnuts> thank you
[12:08] <opitwin> ernoins: Then I am not sure what the problem is, I will try to find somebody else to help you
[12:08] <uXp> how do you find hte kernel verison?
[12:08] <ernoins> opitwin: well thank you kindly.
[12:08] <trippyskippy> uXp, "uname -r"
[12:08] <Renault> you go to synaptic
[12:09] <salah> Jowi: it works fine with ubuntu 5.10, so no, it's not :)
[12:09] <uXp> Reanult : The version is 2.6.15-23-386
[12:09] <Larsson-Sweden> I want to run OpenOffice with GTK2. How can i do that? openoffice.org2-gnome is installed. I'm using fluxbox.
[12:09] <ernoins> perhaps if I made a boot disk
[12:09] <trippyskippy> Renault,  type "gksudo synaptic" in a terminal, or find it on the menus under system
[12:09] <cherwin> salah: get the snd-hda-intel module from realtek and install it
[12:09] <Renault> yes, it's possible
[12:10] <uXp> lol im so confused who you talking to?
[12:10] <opitwin> !install
[12:10] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[12:10] <boelloesch> hi
[12:10] <Renault> uxp>listen trip, it's easy ;)
[12:10] <halcyon512> is Azureus in the package manager somewhere I haven't come across it in my searchs?
[12:10] <Jowi> salah: ah. the reason I asked was that a friend of mine had an out of warranty dell laptop that behaved like that and i had it repaired for him. just a soldering that had come loose.
[12:10] <opitwin> !boot
[12:10] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, opitwin
[12:10] <trippyskippy> Renault,  sorry i misread you and thought you asked "how to go to synaptic" lol, sory mate
[12:10] <itehua> hi
[12:10] <gnomefreak> halcyon512: yes in universe
[12:10] <boelloesch> got a problem with k3b
[12:11] <salah> Jowi: yeah I understand :)
[12:11] <salah> cherwin: where do I get that package?
[12:11] <opitwin> ernoins: Accept DCC Chat
[12:11] <ernoins> ok
[12:11] <halcyon512> gnomefreak: ok, thanks, hasn't come up yet but now i know it's there.
[12:11] <gnuts> cherwin, thanks for your help
[12:11] <ernoins> opitwin: I just figured it out
[12:11] <ernoins> delete got me into the bios
[12:11] <trippyskippy> uXp, are you trying to install the package you need through synaptic?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> halcyon512: dapper?
[12:11] <boelloesch> Unable to find cdrdao executable
[12:11] <boelloesch> K3b uses cdrdao to actually write CDs.
[12:11] <boelloesch> Solution: Install the cdrdao package.
[12:11] <opitwin> ernoins: What was the problem?
[12:11] <halcyon512> breezy, i broke my install trying to upgrade a few days ago.
[12:11] <Renault> trip>not inevitably
[12:11] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: sudo apt-get install cdrdao
[12:12] <cherwin> salah: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlhd-2.aspx?lineid=2004052&famid=2004052&series=2004061&Software=True&title=HD%20Audio%20CODECs
[12:12] <gnomefreak> halcyon512: its not in breezy repos afaik
[12:12] <boelloesch> gnomefreak - thanks
[12:12] <cherwin> gnuts, did it work :)?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: yw
[12:12] <opitwin> ernoins: sometimes they do that
[12:12] <halcyon512> gnomefreak: ah, ok
[12:12] <gnuts> no, still nice to have some help though
[12:12] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, there was some applet which puts a run bar in the panel, where one can run programs instantly. I cannot find it in dapper =/
[12:12] <uXp> im not sure i get this error them trying ot install GTK+  : libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:12] <cherwin> haha okay
[12:12] <gnomefreak> halcyon512: apt-cache search azureus    in term9inal see if it finds it
[12:13] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: define run bar?
[12:13] <opitwin> ernoins: you have a AOpen Motherboard don't you?
[12:13] <ernoins> opitwin: aha! The ubuntu installation screen is before me now. Thank you for your help.
[12:13] <shadeofgrey> okay
[12:13] <shadeofgrey> this is totally unacceptable
[12:13] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, you type for example "gvim" or "vim", and it launches that application.
[12:13] <trippyskippy> uXp are you in synaptic now?
[12:13] <uXp> yes
[12:13] <trippyskippy> i just installed it and it was fine
[12:13] <ernoins> opitwin: I don't know, I have a dell dimensions 866r, http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm.... this told me DEl would work.
[12:13] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: there isnt one afaik make a launcher for it ;)
[12:13] <uXp> it oepned wit hthe code you gaved me
[12:13] <trippyskippy> search for "gliblib"
[12:13] <opitwin> ernoins: I am always glad to help.
[12:13] <cherwin> type 'dmesg' in the terminal, see if you can find some useful error messages or something gnuts
[12:13] <shadeofgrey> how the hell are self respecting mp3leechers supposed to get files with these dumbass xchat scripts that are as slow as grabbing files by hand????
[12:14] <shadeofgrey> somebody please tell me that theres a irc chat applicationm that has decent automated mp3 grabbing?
[12:14] <opitwin> ernoins: Well, good luck installing and I hope you like Ubuntu Server
[12:14] <uXp> trip nothing came up with gliblib
[12:14] <trippyskippy> uXp, the error was because you were trying to install an out of date version of libglib2.0
[12:14] <shadeofgrey> its the only reason i kept windows around...  was for mirc and autoget
[12:14] <halcyon512> gnomefreak, ok, i'm not gettting anything.
[12:14] <trippyskippy> uXp sorry mate search for "libglib"
[12:14] <gnomefreak> uXp: its libglib and what are you trying to isntall?
[12:14] <ja3x1> shadeofgrey install wine + mirc
[12:14] <ja3x1> ;] 
[12:14] <boelloesch> gnomefreak - it dont work
[12:15] <ernoins> opitwin: ty ; )
[12:15] <uXp> GTK+ gnome
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> ja:  does that actually work???
[12:15] <gnomefreak> halcyon512: its not in breezy repos i didnt think it was but i had you check anywya
[12:15] <ja3x1> shadeofgrey yes
[12:15] <opitwin> ernoins: How is install working?
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> ja3x1, have you actually done it?
[12:15] <ja3x1> yes
[12:15] <DynaStab> whats autoget
[12:15] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: one sec
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> no shit?
[12:15] <DynaStab> xchat > mirc
[12:15] <ja3x1> it works fine
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> dont play wiuth my emotions like that man
[12:15] <halcyon512> gnomefreak, ok. good to know.
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> okay fine
[12:15] <uXp> ok libglib came up what now?
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> please talk me through the process
[12:15] <ja3x1> lol
[12:15] <ja3x1> well install wine...
[12:15] <ja3x1> then mirc.....
[12:16] <shadeofgrey> apt-get install wine?
[12:16] <trippyskippy> uXp, once you get the search results scroll down to "libglib2.0-dev" and tell me what the "installed version" and "latest version" columns say
[12:16] <Renault> xchat is the best :p
[12:16] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: did it install?
[12:16] <boelloesch> gnomefreak - nope
[12:16] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: are you on dapper?
[12:16] <u01p2101> i use gaim
[12:16] <h4v0k> can someone help a newb
[12:16] <cartur25> I have a Brother MFC 3820CN printer on a home network - how do I setup my laptop to be able to print from it?
[12:16] <ocx32> postfix doesnt support pop3?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[12:17] <Renault> I prefer xchat than gaim
[12:17] <gnomefreak> h4v0k: we would need to know your issue
[12:17] <opitwin> h4v0k: What do you need?
[12:17] <uXp> installed=blank and latest = 2010.2-lubuntu3
[12:17] <boelloesch> i will translate: it says files are too old or anything like this
[12:17] <cherwin> h4v0k: maybe if you tell what your problem is
[12:17] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: what ubuntu version?
[12:17] <uXp> installed=blank and latest = 2.10.2-lubuntu3*
[12:17] <boelloesch> 5.04
[12:17] <gnomefreak> ocx32: no use mutt
[12:17] <offray_> Hi all. I have been reading here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions#head-8b733766de36fac04b2d9b3ca18cf40de3cc8842 that the alternate CD contains the expert install mode. There is way to delete an old Linux distro using the Desktop LiveCD
[12:17] <__mikem> Does anyone here know how to use mencoder to convert an m4v file to an avi, the man pages dont' help and I am getting hot under the color
[12:17] <ja3x1> shadeofgrey yes
[12:17] <u01p2101> cartur25: 3 in one?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: that is a good reason
[12:17] <ja3x1> apt-get install wine < - correct
[12:17] <opitwin> ernoins: Are you there?
[12:17] <trippyskippy> uXp,  ok thats wierd, i want you click the reload button, and then look again
[12:18] <cartur25> u01p2101: yes
[12:18] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: might i suggest upgrading to breezy or installing dapper from iso
[12:18] <Renault> ja3>synaptic it is correct
[12:18] <cartur25> u01p2101: but I only really want to print
[12:18] <cherwin> h4v0k: and please do not refer to yourself as a newbie, it's completely normal to not know everything about everything
[12:18] <h4v0k> ok the name of the file is el.x86.linux.bin and i changed it to a executable but now it doesnt run how do i open it
[12:18] <u01p2101> cartur25: lsusb
[12:18] <trippyskippy> uXp, if reload doesnt change the latest version to 2.10.3 then i want you to do "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and pastebin it
[12:18] <__mikem> Great, the one time where I need a responce!
[12:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell shadeofgrey -about wine
[12:18] <opitwin> h4v0k: Do you need help with something?
[12:18] <h4v0k> k sorry:">
[12:18] <boelloesch> gnomefreak - i will upgrade
[12:18] <halcyon512> if I upgrade to dapper is there any way to reduce the chances of breaking my install?
[12:19] <halcyon512> i assume things like listening when i'm told to shut down all other apps?
[12:19] <u01p2101> cartur25: install xene
[12:19] <offray_> Hi all. I have been reading here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions#head-8b733766de36fac04b2d9b3ca18cf40de3cc8842 that the alternate CD contains the expert install mode. There is way to delete an old Linux distro using the Desktop LiveCD?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: change the word hoary with breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list file and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:19] <cherwin> h4v0k: open up a terminal and go to the path where your executable is, then type in './el.x86.linux.bin' (without the quotes)
[12:19] <uXp> how do oyu pastebin it?
[12:19] <tmn> Hi! ... I want to go back to a clean ubuntu.. is there any way to do it without formating with cd?
[12:19] <trippyskippy> halcyon512, the key thing is to check your iso was downloaded well and that your media is good
[12:19] <h4v0k> i did that and it gave me a error
[12:19] <halcyon512> ah, ok.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell uXp -about pastebin
[12:20] <cherwin> what was the error h4v0k?
[12:20] <halcyon512> trippyskippy,
[12:20] <salah> cherwin: thanks, but when trying to compile, it can't find "alsaconf", how do I install this?
[12:20] <h4v0k> k hol on
[12:20] <opitwin> !pastebin
[12:20] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:20] <cherwin> apt-get install alsa-utils
[12:20] <cartur25> u01p2101 can I use "sudo apt-get install xene ?
[12:20] <trippyskippy> halcyon512,  so an md5 check against the iso, and use the live CDs media check feature
[12:20] <clinea> exit
[12:20] <h4v0k> ./el.x86.linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:20] <halcyon512> trippyskippy: ok, thanks.
[12:20] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:20] <__mikem> HEy, I know I am not supposed to repeat myself over and over again, BUT I NEED SOMEONE to tell help me with mencode
[12:20] <salah> cherwin: it's already installed..
[12:20] <halcyon512> trippyskippy: how do I do an md5?
[12:20] <opitwin> gnomefreak: Hello
[12:21] <cherwin> h4v0k: if you are going to talk to me then say my name in your sentence, it's easier for me to pick you out then
[12:21] <trippyskippy> halcyon512,  i am a fan of the theory that most upgrades that go wrong are the result of a bad disk mate - dapper seems to install off a bad CD, but often it wont copy everything and cock up
[12:21] <u01p2101> cartur25: 1 minute
[12:21] <trippyskippy> !md5
[12:21] <ubotu> well, md5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[12:21] <uXp> gnome you get it?
[12:21] <jorgp> I wish you could evolution into the sys tray
[12:21] <trippyskippy> checkout ubootus guide halcyon512
[12:21] <h4v0k> how do i make it make your name red
[12:21] <jorgp> put
[12:21] <__mikem> What the *($#
[12:21] <halcyon512> trippyskippy, that is probably what happened to me, it would boot but not finish starting up. thanks for the help man.
[12:21] <uXp> gnome you get it?
[12:21] <cherwin> salah: strange, try compiling it manual, extract the driver and follow the instructions
[12:21] <caskey> __mikem the reason you're not supposed to repeat yourself is that if someone could help you they would.  So be patient and wait.
[12:22] <trippyskippy> halcyon512,  if that is the case, never use it for upgrade :)
[12:22] <cherwin> salah: it's all in the readme file
[12:22] <opitwin> h4v0kL: to make somebody's name red you say there name when talking to them
[12:22] <neutrinomass> h4v0k: Where did you get that file from ?
[12:22] <salah> cherwin: thanks, i'll try that
[12:22] <h4v0k> eternal lands its a game
[12:22] <opitwin> h4b0k: to make somebody's name red you say there name when talking to them
[12:22] <offray_> Hi all. I have been reading here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions#head-8b733766de36fac04b2d9b3ca18cf40de3cc8842 that the alternate CD contains the expert install mode. There is way to delete an old Linux distro using the Desktop LiveCD?
[12:22] <h4v0k> ohhh
[12:23] <h4v0k> neutrinomass: its a game
[12:23] <caskey> offray_ if by 'delete' you simply mean wipe off the disk, then yeah, you can use dd to blank the hdd
[12:23] <mgorbach> can someone help me with a laptop video problem?
[12:23] <trippyskippy> offray_, yes, you could format, parition, delete
[12:23] <opitwin> mgorbach: What do you need?
[12:23] <trippyskippy> uXp, how is pastebin coming on?
[12:24] <mgorbach> iv got the follwoing in my laptop
[12:24] <h4v0k> cherwin:did you see the error that it made
[12:24] <u01p2101> cartur25: try http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/BSC/Public/Templates/DownloadTop.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=%2fbsc%2fpublic%2feu%2feu_ot%2fen%2fdlf%2fdownload_top%2ehtml%3freg%3deu%26c%3deu_ot%26lang%3den%26prod%3dmfc5440cn_all&NRNODEGUID=%7b66D791E0-6EB2-410E-9602-7BFFA80A61D3%7d&NRCACHEHINT=NoModifyGuest&prod=mfc3820cn_eu&reg=eu&c=eu_ot&lang=en
[12:24] <uXp> i pastebinned it trippy
[12:24] <cartur25> wow thanks ill take a look
[12:24] <mgorbach> Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[12:24] <cherwin> h4v0k: I'm using slackware so i dont know the precise name of the package that you have to install, try 'apt-cache search libstdc++'
[12:24] <mgorbach> im not sure waht drivers to use
[12:24] <opitwin> mgorbach: What is wrong?
[12:24] <trippyskippy> uXp, you have to post the url of the pastebin page it went to here
[12:24] <neutrinomass> h4v0k: It's been compiled against libstdc5. I gues that by 'sudo aptitude install libstdc++5 ' the game may run...
[12:24] <mgorbach> currently the video is extremely slow and im getting graphical corruption
[12:24] <uXp> trippu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15414
[12:24] <cherwin> h4v0k: and then install the packages the corresponded with your search
[12:25] <mgorbach> its so slow the ubuntu example video wont play at full speed
[12:25] <offray_> caskey  trippyskippy I dont want to wipe out all the disk, only the partition with the other linux distro
[12:25] <neutrinomass> cherwin: You don't need to be on Ubuntu :) There's packages.ubuntu.com ;)
[12:25] <uXp> shoot
[12:25] <caskey> offray_ you can blank just that partition very easily
[12:25] <uXp> wrong log trippy hold on
[12:25] <cherwin> thanks neutrinomass
[12:25] <h4v0k> cherwin:neutromass:ty both
[12:25] <opitwin> mgorbach: To learn how to install drivers go to wiki.ubuntu.com/video
[12:25] <trippyskippy> offray_, thats easy to do, use the gparted utility
[12:25] <cherwin> np h4v0k
[12:25] <tmn> can anyone help me with this issue?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1118730
[12:25] <opitwin> ernoins: how is install working?
[12:26] <uXp> trippy and gnomefreak here it is the list : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15418
[12:26] <cartur25> What is the difference between LPR and CUPS?
[12:26] <caskey> offray_ simply formatting it would do the trick, but if you really want to remove the data, the dd command will do it:   dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdXY bs=1024      where X is a,b,c,etc. and Y is 1,2,3...
[12:26] <cherwin> hey neutrinomass, i'm currently thinking to try out ubuntu, do you happen to have some experience with ubuntu versus slackware?
[12:26] <caskey> cartur25 LPR is the old unix-style Line Printing Daemon, CUPS is the modern replacement
[12:26] <neutrinomass> h4v0k: Since it's not in the repos, you might encounter other difficulties too. If this is the case, check the website for dependencies and install them by hand (you will realize why package managers are useful)
[12:26] <trippyskippy> oh uXp  your using breezy then?
[12:26] <Crescendo> How to install PHP?
[12:26] <caskey> cartur25 CUPS has LPR compatibility through some helper programs so it can be used as an LPR replacement
[12:26] <uXp> um idk =[
[12:26] <opitwin> !Video Drivers
[12:27] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, opitwin
[12:27] <Healot> cartur25: LPR =? UNIX old-skewl print deamon, CUPS the new deamon for printing
[12:27] <uXp> i don't know hwat im running i just installed hte ubuntu cd =|
[12:27] <gnomefreak> uXp: your list is bad
[12:27] <neutrinomass> cherwin: I haven't been on Slackware. I was thinking of it right before Ubuntu but it seemed (no offence) dead. Ubuntu rocks :-)
[12:27] <mgorbach> im not sure if the fglrx driver works with my system
[12:27] <opitwin> ubotu: Installing Video drivers in Ubuntu
[12:27] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, opitwin
[12:27] <h4v0k> neutromass:it doesnt list any all it said was chmod 775 and execute the binary
[12:27] <uXp> gnome how do i make it "good"?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> uXp: first # out the kubuntu cd rom repo at bottom than get rid of debian repos
[12:27] <Crescendo> How to install PHP...?
[12:27] <opitwin> Bye Everybody!
[12:27] <neutrinomass> cherwin: Try it out, you've got nothing to lose, lots to win :)
[12:27] <gnomefreak> uXp: were gonna try but not sure if its too late or not
[12:28] <uXp> ok hold on freak
[12:28] <gnomefreak> uXp: debian repos can screw up a ubuntu system in a heartbeat
[12:28] <ijeff> anyone know how i can connect my TI-84+ Calculator to ubuntu?
[12:28] <h4v0k> well forget it
[12:28] <gnomefreak> uXp: stop for a min
[12:28] <trippyskippy> uXp, go into repositorys and disble all of them, then just read the official ones
[12:28] <Crescendo> How to search APT repositories?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> uXp: no need im gonna give you a list that will be fine
[12:28] <cherwin> neutrinomass: slackware isn't quite dead you know, it's really easy to configure but anyway i'll try it out soon
[12:29] <ocx32> postfix doesnt support pop3?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[12:29] <gnomefreak> uXp: are you trying to upgrade or just install something?
[12:29] <h4v0k> neutrinomass: how do delete the file i made for it it says unable to delete it is a directory
[12:29] <uXp> im trying to install GTK+ gnome
[12:29] <gnomefreak> ocx32: stop with all the ??? and ! and no postfix doesnt you need mutt
[12:29] <gnomefreak> uXp: ok hold on than
[12:29] <uXp> so i can install some themes
[12:30] <ijeff> anyone know how i can connect my TI-84+ Calculator to ubuntu?
[12:30] <neutrinomass> h4v0k: : If it's a file, then 'rm blah' should do it. If it's a directory, you need 'rm -r blah_dir'.
[12:30] <gnomefreak> uXp: givve me a min just erase everything in your file and hold
[12:30] <h4v0k> k
[12:30] <uXp> in my list?
[12:30] <boricua> i have a problem, i just did install and the processs never asked for root password,  what is it or how can i change it without rescue system?
[12:30] <neutrinomass> ijeff: I didn't look into it much, but I didn't find anything on the subject.
[12:30] <Crescendo> How to search APT repositories?
[12:30] <void^> ubotu: tell boricua about root
[12:31] <caskey> boricua ubuntu doesn't ask for a root password
[12:31] <neutrinomass> cherwin: I looked at Slackware 3-4 months ago and unless I'm mistaken it was still with 2.4 :-/
[12:31] <caskey> boricua you use 'sudo <cmd>' as the user you created during the install process
[12:31] <ijeff> neutrinomass: ah >< i just wiped windows the other night.. but got a new calculator that cant hook to my comp ><
[12:31] <Healot> apt-cache searc <package name filter>, Crescendo
[12:31] <Healot> s/searc/search
[12:31] <uXp> gnome, getting a new sources.list doesn't screw up the programs i have installed right now does it?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> uXp: no
[12:31] <neutrinomass> ijeff: Do you know if its any different than the Ti-83 ?
[12:31] <uXp> ok good
[12:31] <boricua> caskey: well i just cliked the update icon and is asking for root password for updates availables
[12:31] <h4v0k> neutrinomass:ty for all your help
[12:31] <uXp> do your thing ill wait for you
[12:32] <gnomefreak> uXp: sorry waiting on webboard to connect to server
[12:32] <ijeff> neutrinomass: not sure, wouldn't think there's a big difference
[12:32] <boelloesch> gnomefreak - dont work :(
[12:32] <uXp> ok
[12:32] <h4v0k> cherwin:you too ty for your help
[12:32] <uXp> just let me know hwen your ready
[12:32] <caskey> sorry, boricua , can't help you there.  I don't know anything about clicking on icons.
[12:32] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: your not done with the upgrade
[12:32] <dabblego> is it possible to set system-wide environment variables?
[12:32] <boricua> so is sudo as well asking for password
[12:32] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: thats almost impossible
[12:32] <boelloesch> hmmm
[12:32] <boelloesch> sry - im newbee
[12:32] <boricua> caskey: i ran sudo cmd and is asking for root passwd as well
[12:32] <h4v0k> neutrinomass: i forgot whats the command to make a passwd for root
[12:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell boelloesch -about upgrade
[12:32] <capiCrimm> where is the user folder for backgrounds?
[12:33] <caskey> boricua that's *your* password it's asking for
[12:33] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: look at the first link in your pm
[12:33] <boelloesch> gnomefreak - is there a way to get you in a special room?
[12:33] <cherwin> h4v0k: sudo su
[12:33] <cherwin> h4v0k: and then passwd
[12:33] <neutrinomass> h4v0k: Ubuntu doesn't use a root account - have you enabled it ?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> boelloesch: yes give me a min and ill bring you into a room to help you
[12:33] <Acke___> Now that my old laptop has died. I desperateley need eclipse install in my ubuntu6.10 i cant find a resepatory for it though. should i install eclipse manually?
[12:33] <caskey> h4v0k sudo -s will give you a root shell
[12:33] <h4v0k> neutrinomass: no i dont think so i just used my password for sudo
[12:33] <gnomefreak> uXp: use this sources.list please http://gnomefreak.pastebin.com//770977
[12:34] <ompaul> cherwin, when someone asks about root we tell them to look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:34] <dibblego> Acke___: it's trivial anyway
[12:34] <neutrinomass> ijeff: http://www.ticalc.org/basics/linking/software.html#3
[12:34] <neutrinomass> !tell h4v0k about root
[12:34] <cherwin> neutrinomass: yeah slackware is still on 2.4 but c'mon you just have to recompile your kernel and then you'll get a lean mean slacking machine
[12:34] <ReMink> hello !
[12:34] <boricua> caskey: so by default the user created is allow to sudo as root?  or all users?
[12:34] <h4v0k> whats the command for self destruct mode>:)
[12:34] <uXp> gnome, how do i save my sources.lis?
[12:34] <ijeff> neutrinomass: kk thx ill check it out
[12:34] <cherwin> ompaul, okay gotcha
[12:34] <ompaul> boricua, only the first user has super cow powers :)
[12:34] <Acke___> dibblego, yeah i need it alot.
[12:35] <neutrinomass> h4v0k: You don't really need a root account. You can get a root account with "sudo -i". Otherwise, you're usually fine with "sudo <command>" (the "root" password is your user password )
[12:35] <ReMink> How to show the name of my distribution ? For example : Ubuntu, Debian ... ? In the terminal ...
[12:35] <dibblego> Acke___: just download and run it - I don't use Eclipse much because it's crap, but as far as I'm aware, you just run an executable
[12:35] <h4v0k> neutrinomass:ok whats the use of the root account then
[12:35] <boricua> another issue how can i specify vga=771 to grub so i can see messages during boot
[12:35] <neutrinomass> cherwin: Agreed, it's not much of a hassle. But I was coming from Gentoo and pretty fed up with the hassles ;)
[12:35] <Acke___> dibblego ty
[12:35] <ompaul> ReMink, there are a few things you can do, lsb_release -d or cat /etc/issue
[12:36] <tmn_> can anyone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1118730
[12:36] <tmn_> thanks:)
[12:36] <IcemanV9> Acke___: it is in universe repo
[12:36] <uXp> gnomefreak, how do i save my sources.list?
[12:36] <myrddin> anyone know what package 'mmapr' is in?
[12:36] <msid> i have a usb printer that was initially recognized and worked. now, whenever i plug it in, even before boot or while i am in a session, the computer freezes, just like that. and i haven't changed ANYTHING since then. it just happened like this, suddendly. any ideas why it is happening and how to fix it ?
[12:36] <cherwin> neutrinomass: you gotta point there.. Gentoo is pretty slow...
[12:36] <ReMink> Thanks you ompaul !
[12:36] <gnomefreak> uXp: how did you open it?
[12:36] <Penguin> How do I setup wireless lan on a dell wireless 1350?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> uXp: what editor?
[12:36] <uXp> yea
[12:36] <neutrinomass> h4v0k: A root account is not strictly neccessary, that's why it has been disabled. Most distros use it because of tradition(?) I guess ? Read the link ubotu gave you, it will probably be helpful.
[12:36] <uXp> gedit
[12:36] <Acke___> IcemanV9 how do i get universe repo?
[12:36] <h4v0k> neutrinomass:ok ty
[12:37] <uXp> i cliced the link then copied and pasted on my list
[12:37] <IcemanV9> Acke___: enable it in your source list
[12:37] <neutrinomass> msid: "initially" you mean before upgrading to 6.06 or with 6.06, and problems started out of the blue ?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> uXp: click save than close    you need to open the file with gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" to beable to edit it
[12:37] <Penguin> can somebody help me
[12:37] <ompaul> h4v0k, there is is there http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:37] <theine> Hi, when I start any X application from the terminal, I get "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168" many, many times. Does anybody know a cure for that?
[12:37] <IcemanV9> !tell Acke___ about repo
[12:37] <msid> neutrinomass: no it was 6.06 from the beginning
[12:37] <IcemanV9> !tell Acke___ about repos
[12:37] <IcemanV9> sorry
[12:37] <Acke___> lol
[12:37] <Acke___> maybe i got universe
[12:38] <ompaul> there is no penguin, don't look for the penguin, the penguin has no questions that we can hear, ;-)
[12:38] <ompaul> Penguin, please ask the real question of the Channel
[12:38] <IcemanV9> Acke___: if you do, then you need to update first. :)
[12:38] <cherwin> dibblego: Acke___: just download and run it - I don't use Eclipse much because it's crap, but as far as I'm aware, you just run an executable?
[12:38] <uXp> gnome
[12:38] <Penguin> How do I setup wireless lan on a dell wireless 1350?
[12:38] <uXp> entering the number won't mess it up will it
[12:38] <uXp> im just copying your file
[12:39] <cherwin> dibblego: and why is eclipse crap?
[12:39] <boricua> ompaul:makes sense thanks
[12:39] <kieranDOA> Eclipse is cool, as an all round IDE, too bulky for alot of stuff though
[12:39] <dibblego> because it's made that way?
[12:40] <myrddin> I'm trying to find the package 'mmapr' is a part of... anyone know?  Or know how I find out?
[12:40] <IcemanV9> Eclipse runs on java, right?
[12:40] <Healot> Eclipse is pretty universal
[12:40] <ompaul> it is java based, it should be python based
[12:40] <UbuntUSR> hello I have Intel 3945ABG Wireless on Ubuntu Dapper If I install all the driver from http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/ does it modify the firmware of my wireless? I fear that because I use double boot and hope it doesn't mess up my wireless functions on windows. Can someone help me please?
[12:40] <ijeff> how do i run a program i installed using wine
[12:40] <Penguin> How do I setup wireless lan on a dell wireless 1350? and why is the check for updates menu item under help in firefox 1.5.0.4 greyed out. and where is the options in the tools menu
[12:40] <uXp> gnome
[12:40] <ijeff> how do i run a program i installed using wine? a windows app
[12:40] <uXp> list copied ans saved, now what
[12:40] <Healot> there is a natively compiled Eclipse, iirc dapper's eclipse is native application
[12:40] <kieranDOA> What difference does it make what language its programmed in?
[12:41] <krazykit> UbuntUSR: it shouldn't.  it should load the firmware at boot-time, rather than overwriting it.
[12:41] <IcemanV9> ijeff: wine path_to_<windows exe>
[12:41] <ompaul> krazykit, you got me mixed up with someone else I don't drink
[12:41] <UbuntUSR> krazykit : thanks very much
[12:41] <cherwin> thank you kieranDOA
[12:41] <uXp> gnome?
[12:42] <Penguin> How do I setup wireless lan on a dell wireless 1350? and why is the check for updates menu item under help in firefox 1.5.0.4 greyed out. and where is the options in the tools menu
[12:42] <ijeff> IcemanV9: XD no clue how this works
[12:42] <cherwin> dibblego: please don't make useless remarks about software you appearantly don't use
[12:42] <kieranDOA> cherwin: No worries, i hate all this X lang is better than N lang, everyone seems to have forgoten "The best tool for the job"
[12:42] <IcemanV9> uXp: use TAB to complete the nick :)
[12:42] <cherwin> kieranDOA: I rest my case :^)
[12:42] <dibblego> cherwin: I once worked for IBM - I used Eclipse a lot, and RAD and WSAD and all that junk
[12:42] <kbrosnan> Penguin, for firefox that depends if you are using ubuntu
[12:42] <uXp> gnomefreak: yea i know, waht do i do now
[12:42] <IcemanV9> ijeff: ok. what app are you trying to run?
[12:43] <krazykit> ompaul: yeah well... hiding a spoon...
[12:43] <uXp> oops sry
[12:43] <kbrosnan> Penguin, ubuntu's version of firefox then they disable the update, if you downlaoded fierfox from mozilla.com then you need to sudo firefox to check for updaes
[12:43] <gnomefreak> uXp: save it close it type sudo apt-get update
[12:43] <ijeff> IcemanV9: C:\Program Files\iLP something in that folder
[12:43] <cherwin> dibblego: okay wich IDE do you prefer then?
[12:43] <ompaul> kieranDOA, lots, if it is VB it won't be available as free software, and java is not open source or free so if it is faulty its internals can't be explored, fixed by the user, improved and those improvements shared
[12:43] <ericz> at the risk of sounding oddly specific, anyone every used a "VisionTek Xtasy Everything Personal Cinema" [nvidia graphics card with a tuner and thing]  with linux? wine won't detect that the graphics card's there
[12:44] <revilot> I've been trying, with no succes, to figure out how to get my internet connection working.  I have a broadcom wireless card.  Can anyone help
[12:44] <IcemanV9> ijeff: wine "c:\Program Files\iLP"
[12:44] <dibblego> cherwin: I prefer Intellij IDEA, but I'm writing my own language at the moment, since the underlying premise (Java) is flawed - when I worked for IBM, I was implementing the API spec.
[12:44] <uXp> gnomefreak: E: Type '1.' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:44] <ompaul> krazykit, ohhhh, be nice
[12:44] <uXp> oh crap, i copied hte numbers
[12:44] <gnomefreak> uXp: take the line numbers out of the list
[12:44] <Penguin> How do I setup wireless lan on a dell wireless 1350? and why is the check for updates menu item under help in firefox 1.5.0.4 greyed out. and where is the options in the tools menu
[12:44] <kieranDOA> ompaul: Lol. if its vb it wont be available as free software? that all depends on the author.
[12:45] <kieranDOA> Im just sick of hearing all of this "ohh python is slow, ohhh java is slow" Ofcourse it is, its interpreted, you want speed write in C.
[12:45] <ompaul> kieranDOA, no, the wrapper is owned by the closed source themselves company
[12:45] <offray_> I have been trying to use UbuntuWiki to put some documentation about the new Installation Process in Dapper, but, after recovering my password from launchpad, it's not working on UbuntuWiki. Anyway here is the documentation (In spanish) http://www.el-directorio.org:8080/Ubuntu/Instalacion
[12:45] <ijeff> IcemanV9: wine: cannot find 'c:\Program Files\iLP'
[12:45] <cherwin> dibblego: you are writing your own language at the moment? That must be a heck of a job, anyway good luck to you and everyone who is helping.
[12:46] <kieranDOA> ompaul: Maybe, but theres plenty of open source vb projects,
[12:46] <ijeff> IcemanV9: whoops one sec
[12:46] <Penguin> How do I setup wireless lan on a dell wireless 1350? and why is the check for updates menu item under help in firefox 1.5.0.4 greyed out. and where is the options in the tools menu
[12:46] <kieranDOA> I may have misunderstood your comment, if i did, sorry.
[12:46] <ijeff> IcemanV9: wine: could not load L"C:\\Program Files\\TiLP.": Invalid handle
[12:46] <gaggi> hi
[12:46] <kbrosnan> Penguin, I already answered half your question
[12:46] <ompaul> kieranDOA, actually we are way offtopic for here, we should be in #ubuntu-offtopic, you may have misunderstood
[12:46] <IcemanV9> ijeff: you need to add an executeable program such as googleearth.exe
[12:46] <Penguin> when
[12:46] <myrddin> boo.  mmapr is missing entirely from dapper?
[12:47] <mohadib> is 6.06 dapper?
[12:47] <gaggi> someone here who can explain me something? my english really sucks and im stuck at a pint in ati xgl howto
[12:47] <myrddin> yes
[12:47] <kallei> im installing ubuntu now... what filesystem should i use for best performance ?
[12:47] <myrddin> 6.06 == dapper
[12:47] <mohadib> myrddin: thankyou
[12:47] <ijeff> IcemanV9: err:module:import_dll Library libglade-2.0-0.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\TiLP\\TiLP.exe") not found
[12:47] <mohadib> myrddin: did you use apt and do a distupgrade?
[12:47] <nf4> I cant figure out something java works in all my browsers but firefox it crashes what am i missing
[12:47] <ijeff> IcemanV9: says i need a gtk2.0
[12:47] <ompaul> kallei, ext3 does for most things, what do you want to do that might cause the need for speed?
[12:47] <mohadib> myrddin: or just reinstall?
[12:47] <nf4> is there somehting speical for firefox
[12:47] <msid> any idea why my system freezes when i plug in my usb printer ?
[12:47] <myrddin> mohadib: distupgrade
[12:47] <IcemanV9> ijeff: there you go. :) alright. now you have a new problem.
[12:48] <uXp> gnomefreak: its updated, with errors
[12:48] <mohadib> myrddin: it worked ok?
[12:48] <cherwin> kallei: people mostly go for ext3 or reiserfs.
[12:48] <Healot> dist-upgrade
[12:48] <IcemanV9> ijeff: you may need to install libglade file .. let me see if it's there or not
[12:48] <gnomefreak> uXp: gpg errors?
[12:48] <uXp> gonyea
[12:48] <kbrosnan> nf4, maybe http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/java.html#Linux
[12:49] <uXp> gnomefreak: yea*
[12:49] <gnomefreak> uXp: follow the instructions on the page i gave you to get rid of those
[12:49] <mohadib> nf4: does about:plugins show java?
[12:49] <Penguin> how do I install the latest version of firefox that has all the stuff. can I write over the default one?
[12:49] <ijeff> IcemanV9: kk, thx btw :)
[12:49] <kbrosnan> Penguin, if you have 1.5.0.4 then you have the most current version of firefox
[12:49] <nf4> yes
[12:49] <gaggi> is it allright to paste 3 lines here?
[12:50] <IcemanV9> ijeff: plenty of them .. just type 'apt-cache search glade' .. i don't know which you need, but you can figure it out :)
[12:50] <mohadib> nf4: what java version?
[12:50] <nf4> i think that the problem might be that the list is very long for the java plugin
[12:50] <mohadib> nf4: its always like that
[12:50] <nf4> 1.1 to 1.42
[12:50] <Penguin> but it has those menu items greyed out. I need those
[12:50] <xgllo> I'm having trouble getting audio output in spdif on a realtek alc658 aka iec958
[12:50] <mohadib> nf4: get 1.5
[12:50] <mohadib> nf4: might help
[12:50] <gnomefreak> gaggi: get in habbit of using pastebin please
[12:51] <Dreamglider> if i can access the Windows partion on my disk can i edit the Windows regestry from Ubuntu ?
[12:51] <nf4> I have a problem finding respitorys that work with amd64
[12:51] <mohadib> Dreamglider: i have seen a tool to do it
[12:51] <myrddin> mohadib: I used the 'command line' method as described at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[12:51] <myrddin> mohadib: and it worked fine for me
[12:51] <MagicFab_eating> has anyone noticed/verified this: http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20060609#p01
[12:51] <mohadib> myrddin: thanks , nice
[12:51] <nf4> they all say failed when i try to use the respitorys that are in the guides to update to 1.5
[12:51] <ijeff> IcemanV9: a gtk in wine is needed though, on the windows side of things
[12:51] <krazykit> Dreamglider: no, not really.  ntfs write is still unsafe, and i don't know any regedit tool than wine's regedit, which i wouldn't trust on a windows registry
[12:51] <mohadib> nf4: grab it from sun
[12:51] <uXp> i don't know what keys they are tlaking about gnomefreak
[12:52] <gnomefreak> ok hold on please
[12:52] <gnomefreak> uXp: hold
[12:52] <xgllo> need help with SPDIF realtek alc658 audio works fine through audio jack but can't get ac3 passthrough working correctly
[12:52] <kbrosnan> Penguin, type about: in the address bar of firefox, if it the word ubuntu appears on the page then it will be updated when you do security updates, if there is no mention of ubuntu on that page then you need to use the command sudo firefox to upgrade firefox
[12:52] <kbrosnan> Penguin, *if it the word ubuntu appears on the page then it will be updated when you do ubuntu security updates...
[12:53] <nf4> I just thought that it was odd that firefox would crash but mozilla dosent
[12:53] <hoelz> just curious; how do I get mplayer on ubuntu?
[12:53] <mohadib> nf4: that is odd
[12:54] <IcemanV9> !tell hoelz about mplayer
[12:54] <mohadib> nf4: thats why the java community is moving away from applets using webstart instead
[12:54] <nf4> i have four other browser that work with it
[12:54] <gnomefreak> uXp: ok here we go i type you paste the command ok?
[12:54] <hoelz> thx Iceman
[12:54] <kbrosnan> nf4, are you using a version of firefox complied with a different gcc version than java that will make it crashy
[12:54] <codecaine> how do I get rid of of pcimcia on start up
[12:55] <mohadib> codecaine: update-rc.d
[12:55] <xgllo> need help with SPDIF realtek alc658 audio works fine through audio jack but can't get ac3 passthrough to output.  Questions? Comments? Concerns?
[12:55] <mcpowley> is there anyway to get a quicktime plugin in for firefox?
[12:55] <u01p2101> help me to test VNC
[12:55] <mp3guy> I need someone to send me or pastebin me their /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom file, I accidentally deleted mine
[12:55] <pizux> do u know an aps to have icons on a windowmanager
[12:55] <mohadib> myrddin: the mplayer mozilla plugin
[12:55] <u01p2101> give me any address
[12:55] <hoelz> pizux: iDesk
[12:55] <kbrosnan> mcpowley, or vlc or totem plugins
[12:56] <livingdaylight> w'd someone kindly give me the command to change screen configuration? whatf: sudo dpkg x-config or something?
[12:56] <kallei> the ubuntu installation freezes now for the third time during the partitioning, is this a common problem?
[12:56] <crimsun_> kallei: fairly common, see Launchpad.
[12:56] <Acke___> hey, i almost been successful in decembeling my notebook. but it is as if something keeps it toghether in the middle. and i cant find what needs to be removed to get the last pieces off it. Do you know where one could find manuals for dissemble the Acer 370 tm???
[12:56] <mohadib> livingdaylight: dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> uXp: you ready?
[12:56] <uXp> gnomefreak: here look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15422
[12:56] <mcpowley> thanks guys
[12:56] <nf4> what is gcc
[12:57] <mohadib> nf4: GNU C compiler
[12:57] <livingdaylight> mohadib: yea something like that. is that it?
[12:57] <Penguin> no it says firefox
[12:57] <gaggi> can someone please have a look on this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15423
[12:57] <mohadib> livingdaylight: it was  , i dont know if ubuntu uses xorg though
[12:57] <mp3guy> I need someone to send me or pastebin me their /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom file, I accidentally deleted mine
[12:57] <gnomefreak> uXp: take the kuubntu ones out of the list
[12:58] <livingdaylight> mohadib: xorg, yea, pretty sure
[12:58] <uXp> gnomefreak: what?
[12:58] <mohadib> livingdaylight: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:58] <gnomefreak> take the kubuntu repos out of the list
[12:58] <mohadib> livingdaylight: you can edit the files by hand too
[12:58] <uXp> gnomefreak: that ones with the 404 error?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:59] <gnomefreak> uXp: than run apt-get update after save and close
[12:59] <IcemanV9> mp3guy: reinstall gdm
[12:59] <darkprophet> hi all, I was wondering about how java is handeled in ubuntu...apparently, its nicer now ?
[12:59] <kbrosnan> Penguin, then you need to be root to upgrade firefox which you do by typing sudo firefox
[12:59] <mohadib> darkprophet: nicer how?
[12:59] <mohadib> darkprophet: they call gcj java
[12:59] <kbrosnan> Penguin, in a console
[12:59] <mohadib> darkprophet: thats not nice
[12:59] <darkprophet> no
[12:59] <darkprophet> gcj java is not sun's java
[12:59] <darkprophet> sun have changed the license on java
[12:59] <mohadib> darkprophet: but you can use suns and run update-alternatvies iirc
[12:59] <mohadib> darkprophet: no kidding
[01:00] <mohadib> darkprophet: ubuntu comes with gcj
[01:00] <mohadib> not sun java
[01:00] <darkprophet> and ubuntu and debian have apparently picked it up
[01:00] <mohadib> its annoying
[01:00] <mohadib> that owuld be nice
[01:00] <darkprophet> thats what i heard; so I came in here to see if its true :)
[01:00] <mohadib> nice
[01:00] <uXp> gnomefreak: all the kunuti links?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:00] <gnomefreak> uXp: the 4 of them
[01:00] <darkprophet> mohadib: is it easy to uninstall gcj and install sun's instead ?
[01:01] <livingdaylight> mohadib: its not quite it; i did : sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and it's not having it
[01:01] <mohadib> darkprophet: pretty easy , one sec ill get you a link
[01:01] <gnomefreak> uXp: this one http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[01:01] <mohadib> livingdaylight: no space
[01:01] <mohadib> dpkg-reconfigure
[01:01] <uXp> im removing the deb-src then the links
[01:01] <mohadib> one command
[01:01] <darkprophet> im converting from suse (which is a right fuckwad distribution :) )
[01:01] <gnomefreak> uXp: yes
[01:01] <Penguin> ok so how do I upgrade firefox. I don't see any option in sudo
[01:01] <mohadib> darkprophet:  http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Ubuntu_Java_JRE/JDK_installation or apt-get install sun-java5-jdk sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-fonts
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Penguin -about ff1.5
[01:02] <livingdaylight> mohadib: thx
[01:02] <thoreauputic> Penguin: the security updates for dapper are out today if you are running dapper 6.06
[01:02] <mohadib> livingdaylight: np
[01:02] <uXp> ok updating
[01:02] <uXp> still getting the GPG errors
[01:02] <darkprophet> errr...."For AMD64 the sun-java5-plugin package is not available."
[01:02] <darkprophet> why not ?
[01:02] <mohadib> darkprophet: you can get it from sun
[01:03] <Penguin> ok how do I get ubuntu to detect my wireless card?
[01:03] <mohadib> darkprophet: but know , the amd64 jvm doesnt have webstart :\
[01:03] <uXp> gnomefreak: gimme a minute gonna grab some food brb
[01:03] <darkprophet> yeah, i know...its the sux0r!
[01:03] <mohadib> Penguin: see if iwconfig shows it
[01:03] <mohadib> darkprophet: indeed
[01:03] <Brd_> why 64-bit needs special versions of the apps ?
[01:03] <darkprophet> is there a way to force apt-get to get the i586 version ?
[01:03] <darkprophet> Brd_: because of the memory pointers, they are longs in 64bit, not ints
[01:03] <Penguin> ok yes it is on eth1
[01:03] <uXp> brb gnomefreak
[01:03] <Brd_> shouldnt 32-bit apps be compatible with 64-bit
[01:04] <darkprophet> yes, not the other way around
[01:04] <mohadib> darkprophet: not sure , doing it by hand is not too hard
[01:04] <Brd_> hmmm
[01:04] <darkprophet> mohadib: i can download an rpm from sun
[01:04] <mike930> do you have to defragment ext3 filesystems?
[01:04] <Brd_> dark then this means rewriting the whole source
[01:04] <mohadib> darkprophet: dont get the rpm
[01:04] <darkprophet> is it possible to install an rpm in ubuntu ?
[01:04] <darkprophet> Brd_: yes :)
[01:04] <mohadib> darkprophet: read that link i gave you
[01:04] <codecaine> yes darkprofit download alien
[01:04] <Penguin> but how come it isn't showing any icon or anything?
[01:04] <mohadib> darkprophet: it tells you how step by step
[01:04] <codecaine> converts rpm to dpkg
[01:05] <mohadib> alien
[01:05] <mohadib> but htat sucks
[01:05] <darkprophet> because of the memory pointers ?
[01:05] <darkprophet> doh! sorry
[01:05] <darkprophet> pressed up a couple of times
[01:05] <dts> Is there some good documentation for apt configure, i know there is someway to change the default Java VM with it
[01:05] <mohadib> dts: update-alternatives
[01:05] <mohadib>  http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Ubuntu_Java_JRE/JDK_installation
[01:05] <mohadib> ^^
[01:05] <mohadib> read it this time :p
[01:06] <ompaul> ehh
[01:06] <Penguin> ok I upgraded firefox. how come it still isn't showing the options menu? how do I setup up wireless on my card
[01:06] <ompaul> if you want to install java on dapper it is a package on breezy you need
[01:06] <ompaul> !java
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Penguin: did you read the wiki ubotu sent you
[01:06] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[01:06] <dts> mohadib: sorry i did it last time but i'm on another computer
[01:06] <Penguin> yes
[01:06] <kbrosnan> Penguin, what options menu?
[01:06] <Penguin> the options under tools in firefox
[01:06] <dts> couldn't find it on google
[01:06] <Jemt> Penguin: Edit > Preferences ?
[01:06] <mohadib> ompaul: you dont hava java-package in dapper?
[01:07] <Jemt> ompaul: That's wrong.. There is great Java Support for Dapper
[01:07] <codecaine> yea hes probably thinking of windows version
[01:07] <ompaul> mohadib, there is one in dapper,
[01:07] <Penguin> why is it under edit not tools like it is under windows?
[01:07] <Jemt> mohadib: Dapper features the "real" SUN Java package
[01:07] <IcemanV9> there is no options under tools in fx
[01:07] <mohadib> ompaul: then your in
[01:07] <mohadib> Jemt: sweet
[01:07] <mohadib> Jemt: ill upgrade this weekend
[01:07] <sklav> anybody notice any issues with mailscanner?
[01:07] <Jemt> mohadib: Good for you. Dapper is great! :)
[01:07] <pppoe_dude> hey how can i check how much data was sent/recieved on an interface (say eth1) for the computer's uptime period?
[01:08] <mohadib> pppoe_dude: ifconfig
[01:08] <mohadib> pppoe_dude: shows bits in and out iirc
[01:08] <pppoe_dude> mohadib, ill check that thanks
[01:08] <mohadib> np
[01:08] <Penguin> how do I setup wireless on my card?
[01:08] <mohadib> pppoe_dude: does it show up in iwconfig?
[01:08] <Jemt> Penguin: System > Administration > Networking
[01:09] <mohadib> if not you will need to modprobe the correct module
[01:09] <mp3guy> upon running gdmadmin I get a segmentation fault, what should I do
[01:09] <mohadib> mp3guy: stop running it :P
[01:09] <Jemt> LOL
[01:09] <mp3guy> I need to
[01:09] <pppoe_dude> mohadib, it shows in ifconfig under RX bytes
[01:09] <Brd_> I use speedtouch adsl >> I couldnt find a system tray applet showing connection.. anyone knows anything about this
[01:09] <pppoe_dude> mohadib, i dont use wireless i dont know
[01:09] <mohadib> pppoe_dude: nice
[01:10] <mohadib> pppoe_dude: opps , that was for PetrolBomb
[01:10] <mohadib> er Penguin
[01:10] <mohadib> lol
[01:10] <PetrolBomb> HI
[01:10] <PetrolBomb> :)
[01:10] <pppoe_dude> lol using tab too much mohadib
[01:10] <mohadib> HY!1
[01:10] <mohadib> pppoe_dude: indeed ;)
[01:10] <LinuxJones> pppoe_dude, you can add a network monitor applet to the taskbar as well
[01:10] <tescoil> Okay, just updated to 6.06.  When I log into my account, the splash bar freezes at "Nautilus" (it'll disappear on a mouse click).
[01:10] <PetrolBomb> Did you see the computex babes???
[01:10] <mohadib> pppoe_dude: you can use gkreallm too
[01:10] <pppoe_dude> LinuxJones, thanks but not needed atm
[01:10] <PetrolBomb> http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3716&s=2
[01:10] <mohadib> gkrellm
[01:11] <darkprophet> mohadib: are you going to be here in an hour or so? Im downloading the liveCD and seeing how java and stuff fairs with it
[01:11] <Jemt> tescoil: Weird. NVidia card ?
[01:11] <mohadib> darkprophet: i will be heading home about then :\
[01:11] <mo0se> !mp3
[01:11] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:11] <Jemt> tescoil: I have the same problem with Dapper Flight 6 on one of my computers
[01:11] <Jemt> tescoil: Havn't tested it with the final release yet
[01:11] <mohadib> darkprophet: but you can always find me in ##swing or ##java
[01:12] <darkprophet> excellent :)
[01:12] <tescoil> Jemf: I don't even remember what I have for a video card (blush).
[01:12] <darkprophet> btw, swing sux :P
[01:12] <darkprophet> TBH, ive never used it...im a games programmer, OpenGL all teh way :)
[01:12] <PetrolBomb> Well it's either ATI or nVidia
[01:12] <uXp> gnomefreak: ok im back
[01:12] <darkprophet> anyways...32% of the way through...
[01:12] <PetrolBomb> I gaurentee you that
[01:12] <LeoStewart> when I plug in my iPod, Rhythmbox loads... is there any way to stop this from happening?
[01:13] <gnomefreak> uXp: did you get rid of the kubuntu repos that were 404ing?
[01:13] <uXp> yes
[01:13] <gnomefreak> uXp: ok run the command i give you
[01:13] <uXp> ok
[01:14] <gnomefreak> uXp: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 1135D466 33BAC1B3
[01:14] <gnomefreak> let me know when its done
[01:14] <uXp> done
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ok uXp hold for next command
[01:14] <uXp> k
[01:15] <eXistenZ> how can I change the icon of ff
[01:15] <gnomefreak> uXp: gpg --export --armor 1135D466 33BAC1B3 | sudo apt-key add -
[01:15] <gnomefreak> with the - at the end
[01:15] <uXp> k
[01:16] <gnomefreak> uXp: everything i typed except your name
[01:16] <uXp> not found
[01:16] <gnomefreak> uXp: let me know what happens
[01:16] <bulltitan> can i read ntfs file system in my other partition with nautilus?
[01:16] <nf4> can some one take a look at my repsoitoy list and see if i need to add something else to get the sun-java5-plugin
[01:16] <nf4> http://pastebin.com/771040
[01:16] <gnomefreak> uXp: did it say ok at the end?
[01:16] <bulltitan> i mean the drive appears but i can't read it or mount it
[01:16] <uXp> gnomefreak: says not trusted keys found
[01:16] <uXp> yea
[01:16] <uXp> gnomefreak: yea
[01:16] <tescoil> Jemf, PetrolBomb, no, it's an ATI Radeon
[01:17] <gnomefreak> uXp: sudo apt-get update
[01:17] <gnomefreak> uXp: let me know of any errors
[01:17] <uXp> no errors
[01:17] <bulltitan> maybe i'm missing a package or some configuration
[01:17] <gnomefreak> good your good to go now
[01:17] <ernoins> I have just installed ubuntu.  How do I get into the GUI?
[01:17] <thelostpatrol> hi i need help loading the nvidia drivers
[01:17] <thelostpatrol> can someone msg me?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> uXp: you know what lets do something first
[01:17] <darkprophet> ok, running ubuntu live cd....hopefully next time im on here is running a decent distro ;)
[01:17] <darkprophet> ttyl
[01:17] <uXp> ok
[01:18] <gnomefreak> uXp: sudo apt-get -f install   <<just that no package name
[01:18] <gnomefreak> uXp: let me know what it does
[01:18] <sklav> ok guys im off for a bit speak to you all later
[01:18] <uXp> gnomefreak: Reading package lists... Done
[01:18] <uXp> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:18] <uXp> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:19] <gnomefreak> uXp: ok good your ready to do what you were ttrying to do
[01:19] <bulltitan> i mean i see no point on having a ntfs drive displayed in nautilus and not been able to acces it
[01:19] <t3rror> hi all
[01:19] <thelostpatrol> ...
[01:19] <revilot> could someone help me with ndiswrapper
[01:19] <Steil> Is there any easy way to stream audio from my ubuntu box?
[01:19] <Steil> dennis lyxzen
[01:19] <revilot> trying to get my wireless working
[01:20] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell revilot -about ndiswrapper
[01:20] <t3rror> can anyone tell me how to temporarily set my gcc back to version 3.3 instead of 4.0.3
[01:20] <t3rror> ?
[01:20] <uXp> i was trying to install GTK+ so i can install my friends theme
[01:20] <thelostpatrol> what about dennis lyxzen
[01:20] <t3rror> i have a program that i need to compile using 3.3
[01:20] <revilot> how can i find out if ndis wrapper is the only option i have?
[01:20] <ernoins> Can someone please tell me how I get into the GUI?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> uXp: apt-cache search gtk | less
[01:20] <gnomefreak> uXp: find what your looking for in that and install it
[01:20] <gnomefreak> uXp: or use synaptic
[01:21] <twobitsprite> I'm trying to compile a qt program, and configure complains that it can't find the qt headers... I have libqt3-headers and libqt3-compat-headers installed... what am I missing?
[01:22] <Zambezi> Can anyone recommend a POP3-scanner which can delete spam automatilly with one-made rules before Thunderbird download them?
[01:22] <thelostpatrol> hey can anyone msg me? i need help with my drivers but in order to explain the problem i have to paste a few lines
[01:22] <thelostpatrol> it's for nvidia driver loading
[01:22] <uXp> gnomefreak: well im not sure what im installing i just know its GTK+  (the engine?)
[01:22] <apokryphos> twobitsprite: what program is it?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> uXp: yes most likely
[01:23] <apokryphos> twobitsprite: I don't recall what ones are required exactly, but if you i.e. sudo apt-get build-dep qtparted it will certainly resolve all Qt-depends for you
[01:23] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: link to a pstebin entry
[01:23] <gnomefreak> off for dinner ill be back
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> Zambezi: You can use fetchmail and spam assasin (can't spell it)
[01:23] <uXp> gnomefreak: would oyu be able to help me if i were to show you what im installing?
[01:24] <thelostpatrol> ?
[01:24] <thelostpatrol> i have no idea what that is
[01:24] <thelostpatrol> i just installed this thing today
[01:24] <SimAtWork> if i want to upgrade from ubuntu 5.x to 6.x can i just change my sources.list and do an update and dist-upgrade ?
[01:24] <SimAtWork> or is it more complex than that?
[01:24] <Dreamglider> if i see a wireless network card in "System->Networking" then all drivers shold be ok right ?
[01:24] <jkk> i have a question
[01:24] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: /msg ubotu pastebin
[01:24] <jkk> where can i dl the ubuntu live cd ?
[01:24] <apokryphos> !helpme
[01:24] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[01:24] <apokryphos> jkk: see the FAQ
[01:24] <pschemp> heh.
[01:24] <jkk> ok
[01:24] <IcemanV9> !tell SimAtWork about upgrade
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: Apart from some which don't support network manager
[01:25] <bulltitan> does anybody knows how to enable ntfs in nautilus to read ntfs drives?
[01:25] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn, ok!
[01:25] <apokryphos> bulltitan: FAQ
[01:25] <LinuxJones> jkk, www.ubuntulinux.com in the download section to the right
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: Do you know which brand of card to use ?
[01:25] <bulltitan> ok
[01:26] <thelostpatrol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15425
[01:26] <thelostpatrol> there
[01:26] <uXp> gnomefreak: would oyu be able to help me if i were to show you what im installing?
[01:26] <IcemanV9> !tell jkk about download
[01:26] <thelostpatrol> that's what i get when i follow the procedure
[01:26] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn, it is a X-Micro XWL-11GUZX
[01:26] <Dreamglider> Usb adaptor
[01:26] <thelostpatrol> from the ubuntu wiki
[01:27] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: is nvidia-glx definitely installed?
[01:27] <livingdaylight> someone tell me what evolution 's for?
[01:27] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: I need the driver name
[01:27] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: what's the output of dpkg -l|grep nvidia ?
[01:27] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn, i didnt install any driver !
[01:27] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: look in lshw
[01:27] <IcemanV9> !evolution
[01:27] <ubotu> evolution is probably an e-mail client. It comes with Ubuntu.
[01:28] <Touru>  Probably??
[01:28] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: lshw  | grep -i wireless
[01:28] <uXp> gnomefreak:  you there?
[01:28] <livingdaylight> Why does Evolution never work for me? Is that true for others too?
[01:28] <HymnToLife> and is very annoying cause you can't remove it
[01:28] <IcemanV9> uXp: he's gone for dinner
[01:29] <uXp> oh ok thanks
[01:29] <livingdaylight> Evolution is supposed to be a newsreader too, but it never works
[01:29] <Zambezi> h3sp4wn: Thanks.
[01:29] <livingdaylight> IcemanV9: huh?
[01:30] <livingdaylight> Touru: probably is right. It does nothing over here
[01:30] <kieranDOA> !ssh
[01:30] <ubotu> hmm... ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[01:31] <IcemanV9> livingdaylight: i don't use evolution at this moment, but last time i used it and newsreader worked.
[01:31] <uXp> someone link me to thme sites for ubuntu
[01:31] <thelostpatrol> apokryphos: did you see the stuff i pasted in the msg
[01:31] <DarthShrine> uXp, www.gnomelook.org
[01:31] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: ...nope. Perhaps you're not registered?
[01:31] <thelostpatrol> yeah
[01:31] <uXp> DarthShrine: thanks
[01:31] <made> how goes it all?
[01:31] <steve343> is there any beginers guide for windows users swiching to ubuntu
[01:31] <livingdaylight> IcemanV9: arrrh...newsreader has nevre ever worked for me not in breezy or hoary and now Dapper. what is it with that pos?
[01:32] <thelostpatrol> i'll try again
[01:32] <uXp> does anyone here know how to instal themes?
[01:32] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn, http://pastebin.com/771071
[01:32] <apokryphos> steve343: the FAQ covers many questions
[01:32] <thelostpatrol> with pastebin
[01:32] <Penguin> how do you create folders using sudo
[01:32] <johnsie> is it legal for me to have a "powered by ubuntu" button at the bottom of my website?
[01:32] <made> I have one last problem with my ubuntu.. and that should be all...
[01:32] <livingdaylight> Can someone please tell mark shuttleworth to just leave evolution out
[01:32] <Touru> livingdaylight: Why don't you just remove it?
[01:32] <IcemanV9> livingdaylight: i don't know. it just worked for me in breezy. i don't use it in dapper since i use thunderbird.
[01:32] <thelostpatrol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15426
[01:32] <thelostpatrol> there
[01:32] <trippyskippy> evolution is pretty good IMO, a bit bloated, but it does a good job
[01:32] <made> I have a mouse made by A4 tech.. Left, Right, Back, Forward, Click/Scroll..
[01:32] <livingdaylight> Yes, Mr. mark shuttleworth, if you happen to be here listening in, please leave Evolution out in the futuer - than you veyr much. Youdo a great job otherwise
[01:33] <made> how I can set that up...
[01:33] <HymnToLife> Touru> because removing it means removing whole GNOME
[01:33] <thelostpatrol> apokryphos, there's the new thing, that's what it says when i type that stuff you told me to
[01:33] <Touru> HymnToLife: Not true, I just removed it. Possibly that changed in Dapper?
[01:33] <Penguin> how do you create folders? I'm trying to create a folder in etc/
[01:33] <uXp> does anyone here know how to install themes?
[01:33] <made> uXp: drag and drop
[01:33] <DarthShrine> uXp, IIRC, just look through the theme managers in settings.
[01:33] <HymnToLife> maybe because I tried removing it on Breezy and it scewed my GNOME
[01:33] <livingdaylight> Touru: now i will have to. Its just it comes default and everytime i give it a chance and each time i am disappointed yet again and a little upset too now, arrrghh
[01:33] <DarthShrine> uXp, Or do that ^_^
[01:34] <HymnToLife> had do manually reinstal GNOME (which einstalled evolution of coure)
[01:34] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:34] <steve343> and where is the faq
[01:34] <thelostpatrol> how do i see it
[01:34] <Touru> HymnToLife: Yeah, I remember you couldn't remove it on Breezy, there was a warning message in Synaptic. =)
[01:34] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: alt+f2 -> gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:34] <Touru> HymnToLife: That sucks.
[01:34] <Penguin> I want to create a folder in etc/ how do you d it?
[01:34] <Acke___> hey guys, i got rid of the keyboard on my broken acer tm 370, so im under the hood, however how does a bios battery look like????
[01:34] <livingdaylight> HymToLife: Evolution is the bane of Ubuntu. It drags it right down
[01:34] <HymnToLife> yep, reminds me of Windows with MSIE and WMP
[01:35] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn, i cant see any driver there http://pastebin.com/771071 !
[01:35] <Touru> HymnToLife: Anyway, it's fixed now; I've removed Evolution and Totem, no problems whatsoever.
[01:35] <HymnToLife> useless things who are just there wasting diskspace and impossible to remove
[01:35] <HymnToLife> weah, I'll give Dapper a try asap
[01:35] <Acke___> ompaul you there??
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: Can you run lshw | less and pastebin the full Network section (find wireless)
[01:35] <livingdaylight> When is Mr. Mark Shuttleworth going to understand no one likes Evolution.
[01:35] <HymnToLife> read, when I get my hands on a new laptop
[01:35] <made> Dapper is awesome
[01:35] <Acke___> cherwin ?? you there??
[01:35] <trippyskippy> you can remove any program if you want
[01:35] <thelostpatrol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15427 <---- apokryphos
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: You can scroll up and down
[01:36] <made> make sure you do a clean install though.. it runs easier that way
[01:36] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: I think he knows; that's why there's KMail available :P
[01:36] <livingdaylight> Sir, Mr. Mark Shuttleworth if you're there could you at least replace Evolution with Thunderbird or a client that actually works, please? Thank you
[01:36] <steve343> serious where is the faq?
[01:36] <made> Can somebody help me with mouse configuration?
[01:36] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: yea, in kubuntu, yea?
[01:36] <mjr> livingdaylight, 1) When he gets delusional, since that's not true 2) well, evo could be better, but then, everything else sucks worse
[01:36] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: hm, so what's the problem exactly?
[01:36] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: yup
[01:36] <HymnToLife> !tell made about mouse
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> Evolution can connect to Microsoft Exchange thats why its there
[01:36] <ompaul> Acke___, I am but as I said eariler, it looks like a really nasty hardware problem
[01:36] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: nvidia seems to be enabled just fine there
[01:36] <thelostpatrol> i can't enable the driver, basically
[01:37] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: it's already enabled
[01:37] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn,  look http://pastebin.com/771080
[01:37] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: it is not fair that we are punished, just because we use Gnome, arrr...
[01:37] <thelostpatrol> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable <---- this gives me the first pastebin thing
[01:37] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: it can't enabled it because it's already enabled.
[01:37] <livingdaylight> mjr: you don't mean to say you like evolution, surely? you'd be the first
[01:37] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: restart your X and nvidia driver should be running fine
[01:37] <revilot> im on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper trying to find out how to set up ndiswrapper but it doesnt have ubuntu 6.06 listed
[01:37] <Acke___> ompaul, yeah, but i would want to try the reset bois by removing battery thing. what you say? i just cant find the battry. dont know how they look. :P
[01:38] <thelostpatrol> the guide says that when you enable it it's supposed to have the nvidia logo or something
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: The configuration usually has driver=8139too or some such
[01:38] <nf4> should i use synaptic and install the amd64-k8 kernel
[01:38] <Acke___> ompaul. maybe i should just leave it be
[01:38] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: you'll see the nvidia logo when you restart your X. Type ctrl+alt+backspace.
[01:38] <thelostpatrol> and i have terrible framerate in this thing
[01:38] <mnvl> hi there. i want to remove the package xscreensaver to replace it with a custom version. but apt-get remove also removes the package ubuntu-desktop, and reinstalling this reinstalls the screensaver.
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: What do you get from iwlist wlan0 scan
[01:38] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: this will kill your X-session, so save anything you need to
[01:38] <nf4> right now the one that is install is the amd genaric
[01:38] <mnvl> how can i avoid this
[01:38] <mnvl> ?
[01:38] <thelostpatrol> yeah i have done it before...
[01:38] <krazykit> mnvl: it's safe to remove ubuntu-desktop
[01:38] <thelostpatrol> how do you know it's enabled? where did you see that
[01:39] <trippyskippy> nf4 what the difference between k8 and generic?
[01:39] <Random_Transit> question, is there any way to resize my root partition without screwing it up?
[01:39] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn,  No scan results
[01:39] <mnvl> ok krazykit i don't lose anything else?
[01:39] <revilot> can anyone help me set up ndiswrapper for ubuntu 6.06
[01:39] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: in your xorg.conf. nvidia driver is listed
[01:39] <Penguin> how do you create folders
[01:39] <krazykit> mnvl: no, you shouldn't.
[01:39] <trippyskippy> nf4 isnt k8 32bit?
[01:39] <nf4> no
[01:39] <mnvl> ok great thanks krazykit
[01:39] <nf4> k8 is athalons
[01:39] <nf4> i thought
[01:39] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: it's unlikely, but *perhaps* you need to do a better autconfiguration for your new driver. Type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (making sure you select "nvidia", not "nv") and then restart your X
[01:39] <trippyskippy> maybe i should be using it too, i have an athlon 64
[01:39] <krazykit> nf4: athlon is many things, 32 and 64 bit
[01:39] <nf4> http://www.cpuid.com/reviews/K8/index.php
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: pastebin the full output of lsmod
[01:40] <adamant1988> Hey can someone tell me why programs installed from the universal and multiverse repos aren't in the addremove program?
[01:40] <sybariten> if i SSH into machine A, and MC looks like crap console-wise ... and i then SSH from A to B ... and start MC there, and it looks allright ... then what settings is it i want to compare between A and B ?
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> MC doesn't support utf8 I don't think
[01:40] <nf4> i have a opter0n64 s939
[01:40] <Penguin> It keeps giving me access denied
[01:40] <Random_Transit> hello? can anyone answer my q?
[01:41] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn,  http://pastebin.com/771087
[01:41] <Jero> compaq support sucks lol
[01:41] <trippyskippy> adamant1988,  that add/remove is just for the basic supported packages
[01:41] <Penguin> Can I set it up so I don't have to do that sudo command every time?
[01:41] <trippyskippy> adamant1988, just use synaptic to add and remove packages not in the base system
[01:41] <nf4> i am suprised that compaq is still alive
[01:41] <krazykit> Penguin: sudo -i
[01:41] <johnm1019> I just setup a samba share on my ubuntu box, and i can see the share, but can't login using my name and pw -- is there some special login one uses for samba?
[01:42] <ompaul> Acke___, when a bios does not display on a system it is not usually anything trivial, ask anyone who is good with hardware
[01:42] <adamant1988> trippyskippy: so all my other programs will have to be done through synaptic then? so be it. I wish it would add them to the menus upon install though
[01:42] <revilot> can anyone help me set up wireless on a broadcom BCM4318?
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: is the wireless card usb ?
[01:42] <Rotund> has anyone heard of Dapper running VERY slow (20 min boot time)?
[01:42] <nggtony> hi at all!
[01:42] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn,  ues
[01:42] <trippyskippy> Retund, no thats crazy
[01:42] <Healot> Random_Transit: Yes, if that what you wanna do
[01:42] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn,  yes
[01:42] <Penguin> please?
[01:43] <ompaul> revilot, all I can offer is this http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[01:43] <Rotund> trippyskippy: I agree.  I hadn't heard of it
[01:43] <Penguin> root: #?
[01:43] <Dreamglider> Rotund, not here, tho it's not the fastest booting os :)
[01:43] <danfg> what is, like, the best file manager ever?
[01:43] <trippyskippy> Rotund, maybe you should check your log files, like dmesg and kern and see if they give a clue to whats going on
[01:43] <DarthShrine> Hmm...That's weird. I just tried to start Terminal and got a blank, black window, which seems frozen, instead of the normal terminal. And when I just tried to start Synaptic, I just got a blank error window. What's going on?
[01:44] <trippyskippy> Rotund, what hardware are you using?
[01:44] <nggtony> is ubuntu fast?
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: Do - tail -f /var/log/dmesg from a console and then unplug it and then replug it in (you will get the messages at the bottom of the dmesg
[01:44] <Healot> nggtony: define "fast"
[01:44] <Rotund> Dreamglider: he was getting like 20 min from password entered to login
[01:44] <trippyskippy> Rotund, aslo remove all uneeded USB devices from your PC
[01:44] <danfg> it's fast
[01:44] <nggtony> boot..
[01:44] <jmaslyn> new dapper drake is very quick compared to other distros
[01:44] <Rotund> trippyskippy: it wasn't mine.  I had suggested it must be hardware
[01:44] <nggtony> I use dapper drake
[01:44] <jmaslyn> then yes
[01:45] <Healot> depends on how many boot scripts, RAM, hard disk speed, filesystem, that you have... nggtony
[01:45] <nggtony> but I work to services for to have boot fast
[01:45] <trippyskippy> Rotund, yeah i would agree there
[01:45] <revilot> ompaul: that might as well be written in chinese
[01:45] <Rotund> trippyskippy: He has a Santa Cruz soundcard, athlon 1700+ or something like that, Nvidia 4600, I think a gig of RAM
[01:45] <tescoil> Does dpkg -i test to see if package is an upgrade?
[01:45] <jmaslyn> anyone know when edgy eft will be testable?
[01:45] <Rotund> trippyskippy: but it was fine under breezy and windows
[01:46] <trippyskippy> Rotund, the soundcard and the usb devices should really be disabled/removed to troubleshoot
[01:46] <crimsun_> jmaslyn: it's testable right now.
[01:46] <krazykit> jmaslyn: technically, now, but i dunno if any packages have been added yet
[01:46] <jmaslyn> yeah i figured as much
[01:46] <nggtony> my pc: amd athlon 1700+, 256MB of ram
[01:46] <trippyskippy> Rotund,  he should also try a live CD of dapper to confirm its not his install thats messed up
[01:46] <thelostpatrol> well that droze my system
[01:46] <crimsun_> Yep, there have been. Much breakage potential unless you're very familiar with the development sequence.
[01:46] <thelostpatrol> had to restart
[01:47] <thelostpatrol> but i did see the damn nvidia logo finally after
[01:47] <jmaslyn> I have a dev machine for testing all the latest stuff
[01:47] <Rotund> it was in the minutes for just loading initrd
[01:47] <jmaslyn> I am just intrigued by the goals being set for Eft
[01:47] <thelostpatrol> apokryphos: i get a lot of lag when i resize and move windows, is this normal?
[01:48] <jmaslyn> has anyone had a chance to test dapper server?
[01:48] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: hm, with that nice card you'll want to enable hardware acceleration
[01:48] <tescoil> Um. "xscreensaver_4.24-4 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however:  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20."
[01:48] <Acke___> AAAAAAAAAAAH mi dissembled everything and it didnt want to work. and when I got it back toghether it worked again hahah
[01:48] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: alt+f2 -> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:48] <crimsun_> tescoil: so why are you trying to install xscreensaver from Debian?
[01:48] <Acke___> thanks ompaul
[01:49] <thelostpatrol> ...
[01:49] <ompaul> revilot, download the link that is marked .deb to your desktop open a terminal, (applications accessories terminal) and type >> sudo dpkg -i bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb << then try it
[01:49] <thelostpatrol> or anyone for that matter, is this normal?
[01:49] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: in Section "Device" (where it has Driver "nvidia"), in a line there, add exactly this:   Option   "RenderAccel"   "true"
[01:49] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: it will fix your problem, most likely.
[01:49] <jmaslyn> my windows ghost a bit but i would not call it lag
[01:49] <ompaul> revilot, after that reboot and try it or wait five mins and ask again
[01:49] <danfg> you guys, what's the best file manager for ubuntu? or are you guys ok with nautilus?
[01:49] <jmaslyn> k well see ya everybody!
[01:50] <apokryphos> danfg: Konqueror :P
[01:50] <tescoil> crimsun, more hacks (including one I used to run all the time), package recommended by author over compiling binaries.
[01:50] <trippyskippy> danfg, if your using gnome, your pretty much stuck with nautilus i think
[01:50] <ompaul> revilot, I have nothing further to contribute to your situation unfortunately
[01:50] <danfg> apokryphos: can you use konqueror in gnome?
[01:50] <revilot> ompaul: can i open that file with GDebi package installer?
[01:50] <u01p2101> !xdmcp
[01:50] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, u01p2101
[01:50] <zexr0> can someone fill a bug report ?
[01:50] <bioeng> Hi everyone
[01:50] <u01p2101> !XDMCP
[01:50] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, u01p2101
[01:50] <tescoil> crimsun, I dunno why ubuntu 6.06 includes *fewer* hacks than previous.
[01:50] <crimsun_> tescoil: you can't just drop in binaries; you have to compile the debian source package in a Debian system.
[01:50] <apokryphos> danfg: yeah, but it probably wouldn't be as pretty
[01:50] <crimsun_> tescoil: in a Ubuntu system.
[01:51] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn, http://pastebin.com/771094
[01:51] <zexr0> forget that
[01:51] <crimsun_> tescoil: (not in a Debian system)
[01:51] <zexr0> it's been repared
[01:51] <bioeng> Guess what?
[01:51] <bioeng> I've learned some new programming languages
[01:51] <ompaul> revilot, I gave you instructions as I know them, I know nothing of what you asked me - I don't use it afik
[01:51] <bioeng> Languages I can use
[01:51] <danfg> trippyskippy: don't like the idea of being stuck with anything. there are plenty of file managers in the repository, just wondering if someone here uses something other than nautilus/konqueror
[01:51] <tescoil> crimsun, hm, okay...
[01:51] <bioeng> C, C++, and assembler
[01:51] <bioeng> I'm so excited
[01:52] <bioeng> What I mainly lack now is programming theory, algorithims as it were
[01:52] <smax> hi gang
[01:52] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn, this is the only thing i see after that command http://pastebin.com/771094
[01:53] <smax> my schools ftp server is a fatal flaw.  if it werent for commands such as sftp i'd might as well change my major to interior decorating
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: Is it a usb stick and wifi card in one ?
[01:54] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn, it is a wlan 11g usb adapter
[01:54] <trippyskippy> danfg,  you could try "gnome-commander"
[01:54] <revilot> everytime i type a sudo command into terminal it asks for a pw but wont let me type anything in
[01:54] <thelostpatrol> apokryphos: after i save that do i restart?
[01:54] <Warbo> Quick question, does the Live CD use gksudo (I am writing a guide)?
[01:55] <danfg> trippyskippy: ah, nice, i'll have a look at it :)
[01:55] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: yes
[01:55] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: I need the chipset type before I can do anything (search for the model number of the card and chipset on google)
[01:55] <thelostpatrol> ok i'll be back, in that case
[01:55] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: Unless anyone else knows a better way
[01:55] <trippyskippy> danfg, heres its website, you can get it in synaptic http://www.nongnu.org/gcmd/ - probably good if you want a no-nonsense way of moving files around
[01:56] <Warbo> revilot: It is recognising your password just fine, but is protecting it from whoever is looking over your shoulder. Just type it and press enter, you will see
[01:56] <Healot> Warbo: full-fledge GNOME desktop uses "gksu(do)"
[01:56] <Warbo> Healot: Is it installed in the Live CD's system though?
[01:57] <revilot> ah ok
[01:57] <DarthShrine> man: can't create a temporary filename: Read-only file system <--- Is there any way to fix that?
[01:57] <Healot> Warbo: run it from the terminal, you'll see
[01:57] <Healot> remount read/write///
[01:57] <Warbo> revilot: If you make a mistake be sure to press backspace loads of times, since you can't tell whether there is still a bit left
[01:57] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn,  http://packages.debian.org/unstable/base/zd1211-source
[01:57] <danfg> trippyskippy: thanks :)
[01:57] <Warbo> Healot: I don;t have the Live CD, that's why I'm asking :)
[01:58] <Healot> Warbo: yes
[01:58] <Healot> how the hell, you;re trying to write a documentation without actually realising it?
[01:58] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn,   ZyDAS ZD1211 802.11b/g USB WLAN chipset
[02:00] <livingdaylight> Guys! how do i get xlibs for opera?
[02:00] <mephistopheles> hello , how can i upgrade to dapper ?
[02:00] <mephistopheles> !dappert
[02:00] <ubotu> mephistopheles: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:00] <mephistopheles> !dapper
[02:00] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is Ubuntu 6.06, the "Dapper Drake" release. Released June 1st 2006
[02:00] <micocasek> hi
[02:00] <ompaul> !upgrade
[02:00] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[02:00] <IcemanV9> !tell mephistopheles about upgrade
[02:00] <thelostpatrol> yeah i don't know, it's still pretty slow with the resizing of windows and such
[02:00] <Maerksi> hello. I have 3 partitions. Is it safe to try to install ubuntu on my first partition or installing ubuntu is not as safe as installing winxp ?
[02:00] <thelostpatrol> bad framerates
[02:00] <__mikem> SOmebody needs to update ubotu
[02:00] <v|nc3> anyone here use vdr
[02:01] <v|nc3> with ubuntu
[02:01] <Healot> Maerksi: define "safe"?
[02:01] <ompaul> __mikem, to say what that eft is open - and then people use it and it dies?
[02:01] <v|nc3> !vdr
[02:01] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, v|nc3
[02:01] <IcemanV9> !tell Maerksi about dualboot
[02:01] <Healot> you can install ubuntu first and Windows XP later, but it is recommeded to Install XP first
[02:01] <__mikem> ???
[02:01] <adamant1988> how can I add a program to my applications menu? I installed a program from the repos that didn't put itself in the menu, and I want to add it.
[02:02] <ompaul> __mikem, what needs to be in the bot?
[02:02] <thelostpatrol> i had xp and i installed ubuntu today
[02:02] <thelostpatrol> it was easy
[02:02] <thelostpatrol> and i'm a total linux noob
[02:02] <Maerksi> Healot: on winxp I can install on the partition I want. I'm afraid installing ubuntu it will try to automaticly do things I didn't ask like cleaning all the partitions, installing bootloaders n' stuff
[02:02] <micocasek> i just installed ubuntu 5.04, and i don't recall ever being prompted to create a root password... now if i try to su as root, of course i get an authentication failure... is there a default root password?  if not, what do i have to do to recover my password?
[02:02] <krazykit> micocasek: you don't have root by default.
[02:02] <ompaul> !root
[02:03] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:03] <RadiantFire> install xp first, it will nuke the bootloader
[02:03] <__mikem> there should be an upgrade factoid that talkes about upgrading to dapper, If anyone STILL uses hoary hedgehog, if they havn't upgraded yet, I doubt they ever will
[02:03] <thelostpatrol> same here iveman
[02:03] <krazykit> __mikem: um, there is
[02:03] <Healot> still no question,,,
[02:03] <ompaul> micocasek, ^^ read that ubotu factoid
[02:03] <v|nc3> anyone here use vdr?
[02:03] <IcemanV9> thelostpatrol: :D
[02:03] <livingdaylight> is there a site ubunut.packages or something? i need xlibs from breezy to install opera - thx!
[02:04] <micocasek> thanks.
[02:04] <ompaul> !tell livingdaylight about repos
[02:04] <dash> anybody using thoggen in dapper?
[02:04] <IcemanV9> livingdaylight: packages.ubuntu.com, i think
[02:04] <ompaul> livingdaylight, the actually package is called xlib
[02:04] <dash> i haven't managed to get it to start, complains about outdated gstreamer plugins
[02:04] <thelostpatrol> all i did was made about 5gb of unpartitioned space, then ran the dapper livecd and the utilities there did the rest
[02:04] <Dreamglider> h3sp4wn,   ZyDAS ZD1211 802.11b/g USB WLAN chipset i had a look inside the usb stick
[02:04] <dash> but the packages are all up to date
[02:05] <thelostpatrol> i used partition magic in xp to "unallocate" space for linux
[02:05] <livingdaylight> ompaul: right, you know where i get it?
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> Dreamglider: Have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=907544&postcount=12 (I found someone who has your card who wrote that)
[02:05] <jhenn> hi. how can i install chinese fonts in openoffice?
[02:05] <ASTX813> Is there a safe way to change the userid of an existing user?
[02:05] <livingdaylight> IcemanV9, yea, something like that. but that ain't it either :s
[02:05] <ompaul> livingdaylight, I told the bot to tell you about repos to help you with other stuff
[02:05] <IcemanV9> thelostpatrol: i used gparted from ubuntu and it took care of partitioning. it was sweet!
[02:05] <ompaul> livingdaylight, do that and you will get there
[02:06] <thelostpatrol> cool
[02:06] <thelostpatrol> either way we both win! haha
[02:06] <livingdaylight> ompaul, i did my repos already, but they're for dapper. I need xlib from breezy i hear
[02:06] <thelostpatrol> ok i need to get div-x movies working or something
[02:06] <adamant1988> How can I add an application to my applications menu that didn't add itself automatically? (In dapper)
[02:07] <Healot> !mp3
[02:07] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:07] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: FAQ
[02:07] <devnull> hello i was wondering since i have asked this question about 20 times ... why is it i can connect to wireless networks that are WEP with a passphrase, but no other networks ?????
[02:07] <thelostpatrol> hehe yeah i'm headed there now
[02:07] <crimsun_> livingdaylight: just install xlibs from dapper
[02:07] <Warbo> Just to make sure, it is perfectly possible to make stuff in $HOME on the Live CD (it gets stored in RAM) yes? Also, is wwriting a small (10MB) CD image to disc possible from within the Live environment?
[02:07] <ompaul> livingdaylight, ehh do sudo apt-get install xlib and see how you go, http://packages.ubuntu.com but I advise against what your thinking
[02:07] <mt3> Hi guys
[02:07] <crimsun_> livingdaylight: it's just an empty transitional package anyhow
[02:07] <apokryphos> hello
[02:07] <mt3> I wasn't really sure where to ask this
[02:07] <Warbo> adamant1988: You can use the Alacarte Manu Editor in Accessories (go File>New Entry)
[02:07] <mt3> I have a problem with a computer running Ubuntu... But it's not a Ubuntu problem :P
[02:08] <hyphenated> devnull: in your area, the other ones might all restrict access to a list of MAC addresses
[02:08] <johnsie> what is a good drawing alternative to gimp?
[02:08] <adamant1988> ok thanks, I didn't see that
[02:08] <devnull> hyphenated, no ... i have the wireless AP in front of me and I have no access control on it
[02:08] <devnull> i just put WEP on it because other wise i can not connect
[02:08] <Warbo> johnsie: I use GIMP and Inkscape (vector based)
[02:08] <hyphenated> and it won't associate with it?
[02:08] <mt3> Basically I set a password on the motherboard of my machine but it obviously isn't right because when I enter it to start up it says I entered it wrong! I tried taking the battery out and putting it back in and it didn't clear it. What can I do? It's an old Packard Bell system with a Celeron 859
[02:08] <devnull> so why is it my father's windows laptop can connect to every network in anyway but i can only connect to a WEP with a passphrase ?
[02:08] <feryana> hi there
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> devnull: can you reflash it with openwrt check http://toh.openwrt.org
[02:09] <devnull> h3sp4wn, reflash what ?
[02:09] <apokryphos> hello
[02:09] <hyphenated> devnull: no idea. I haven't had that problem :-(
[02:09] <zexr0> anyone have an idea about this error
[02:09] <zexr0> patrickparent@ZeXr0-UbuntuLaptop:~$ pcsx
[02:09] <zexr0> /usr/games/pcsx: line 31: lndir: command not found
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> devnull: The wireless accesspoint
[02:09] <feryana> how can I install templates for gnome (on dapper dake) for "new document" ?????
[02:09] <Warbo> mt3: There is usually a pair of jumpers (little metal contacts) which you can sort circuit for a few seconds to wipe the settings
[02:09] <mt3> Anyone have any ideas on what I can do?
[02:09] <devnull> h3sp4wn, why would have i have to flash the AP ??
[02:09] <Healot> mt3: take out the battery, and leave it for 1 or 2 minutes, and put it back again, restart
[02:09] <johnsie> anything simple like paint?
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> devnull: Run linux on it makes stuff easier to debug works better generally (if it is supported)
[02:09] <devnull> h3sp4wn, why would i do that
[02:10] <mt3> any idea where I'd find these jumpers?
[02:10] <devnull> what are you talking about
[02:10] <Warbo> johnsie: If you want a crap tool like paint then install tuxpaint
[02:10] <apokryphos> johnsie: kolourpaint is ok
[02:10] <mt3> Would they be labeled?
[02:10] <johnsie> hehe isnt that the kiddies one :-)
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> devnull: see the link above
[02:10] <ASTX813> Any idea why the Login Window administration tool won't let me set certain users to use for auto-login
[02:10] <Warbo> mt3: It is different for every Mobo (look in the manual, or else Google for a diagram of the board)
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> devnull: If your router is in it it can be reflashed
[02:10] <Healot> mt3: refer to your manual... period
[02:11] <devnull> how the hell am i supposed to flash peoples AP's not much of a solution
[02:11] <devnull> why the hell would i flash a router that makes no sense ... it doesn't need to be flashed
[02:11] <mt3> It's a Packard Bell computer so I don't have the mobo manual
[02:11] <livingdaylight> crimsun: i don't have xlibs in dapper
[02:11] <krazykit> !xlibs
[02:11] <ubotu> xlibs is, like, totally, needed for cedega and opera.  use the xlibs-dev package
[02:11] <hyphenated> devnull: I agree. it wouldn't help you a bit if you travelled to a friend's place or something
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> devnull: Run linux on it so you can use iptables instead of whatever junk is currently on there
[02:11] <livingdaylight> ompaul: i need it for opera 9.0
[02:11] <devnull> h3sp4wn, that makes no sense towards my question ... there is no problem with the AP i am connected to it right now
[02:12] <crimsun_> !info xlibs
[02:12] <ubotu> xlibs: (X Window System client library transitional package), section libs, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 284 kB
[02:12] <ompaul> !xlibs dapper
[02:12] <ubotu> ompaul: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:12] <ompaul> doh
[02:12] <ompaul> anyway
[02:12] <h3sp4wn> devnull: What is the problem ?
[02:12] <crimsun_> livingdaylight: grab the breezy-security version
[02:12] <hyphenated> devnull: do you know what wireless card and driver you're using?
[02:12] <zexr0> is it normal that lndir does not exist, and thtat by that PCSX does not start ?
[02:12] <devnull> yes and yes
[02:12] <johnsie> anyone know how to wipe the bios settings back to default without being able to go into the bios and where removing a jumper wont work?
[02:12] <devnull> i am using ndiswrapper for my wireless
[02:12] <Kyral> clear CMOS
[02:12] <Warbo> Is it possible to write a CD image in the Live CD (only about 10MB) provided another drive is available?
[02:12] <johnsie> how?
[02:13] <hyphenated> devnull: I suggest you search for them in the wiki and see if your problem has been encountered by someone else before
[02:13] <livingdaylight> crimsun: yea, that's where i am and trying to do, not exactly sure how to execute that though : s
[02:13] <devnull> bcmwl5
[02:13] <Kyral> pull out your MB Manual, it should be in there :P
[02:13] <krazykit> johnsie: find the battery, pull it, wait for awhile.
[02:13] <johnsie> tried that kit
[02:13] <devnull> hyphenated, the thing is why am i fine to connect to a WEP network but not WPA ?
[02:13] <zexr0> Anyone got an idea why lndir does not exist in Ubuntu ?
[02:13] <devnull> since almost every AP i have come in contact with is WPA not WEP
[02:13] <Kyral> zexr0: wtf is lndir?
[02:14] <feryana> how can I install templates for gnome (on dapper dake) for "new document" ?????
[02:14] <crimsun_> livingdaylight: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs_6.8.2-77.1_all.deb && dpkg -i xlibs_6.8.2-77.1_all.deb
[02:14] <h3sp4wn> devnull: Use wpa_supplicant
[02:14] <hyphenated> Warbo: you should be able to. I don't have two drives so I can't check
[02:14] <Warbo> I'm guessing hard linking directories
[02:14] <zexr0> create a shadow directory of symbolic links to another directory tree
[02:14] <devnull> h3sp4wn, i have wpa_supplicant ....
[02:14] <johnsie> its trying to detect the temperature of the fan and shutting down before anything happens
[02:14] <Kyral> and why can't you use ln?
[02:14] <Warbo> hyphenated: Ok thanks
[02:14] <zexr0> usefull for developper
[02:14] <livingdaylight> crimsun_, done : )
[02:14] <Gog123> bad guys always win
[02:14] <Healot> johnsie: remove the battery, leave it for 1 -2 mintues, and put the battery back on
[02:14] <devnull> the next thing is why would i have to predefine the network if it i am going to randomly going to connect to it
[02:14] <Warbo> zexr0: You can use "cp -s" to do that
[02:14] <johnsie> tried that healot :-(
[02:14] <hyphenated> Warbo: you can "install" packages into RAM while running the live cd
[02:14] <h3sp4wn> devnull: Well it supports ndiswrapper
[02:14] <crimsun_> zexr0: it was eaten as part of the X.Org transition.
[02:14] <h3sp4wn> devnull: You can connect using wpa_cli
[02:15] <devnull> gotcha
[02:15] <Healot> 1 - 2 minutes, power detached
[02:15] <zexr0> Warbo : actually is it in pcsx, and it made this packet to not work ...
[02:15] <devnull> shouldn't gnome networking do that for me ?
[02:15] <johnsie> 24 hours several times :-)
[02:15] <simian__> am I right in thinking that if you want host a webserver you MUST have port 80 open?
[02:15] <johnsie> tried changing the jumper over too
[02:15] <Healot> unless if you have a duel-BIOS core, which backup the previously working BIOS setting
[02:15] <h3sp4wn> devnull: Don't know I don't use any of that stuff
[02:15] <xevil> mt3: google for "packard Bell motherboard diagram" there's a good page on it
[02:15] <devnull> gotcha
[02:15] <ubuntu> its installing :)
[02:15] <devnull> well thank you very much all
[02:15] <zexr0> and I don't know if pcsx is in the source of Ubuntu, but it does not work
[02:15] <ubuntu> ubuntu is *awsome*, the installation is really nice
[02:15] <hyphenated> simian__: pretty much. otherwise people have to specify the port number in the URL
[02:16] <Warbo> zexr0: You could make a script called /usr/local/bin/lndir which is a wrapper around cp -s and translates it's options (I can't script myself though)
[02:16] <Healot> why don;t you get commercial Ubuntu support btw?
[02:16] <futlib> hi, is there a simple gui selector that lets me change my locale, gnome language etc. all ad hoc with some simple clicks in ubuntu? (gnome)
[02:16] <smax> the words file is blank
[02:16] <ubuntu> btw, is the latest nvidia drivers supported in ubuntu ?
[02:16] <Healot> System Menu -> Preferences - > Languahes ... futlib
[02:16] <Healot> Languages
[02:16] <smax> /usr/share/dict/words   is a link to a no existant file
[02:16] <futlib> Healot: thanks, I'll have a look ;)
[02:16] <Warbo> ubuntu: Last time I checked
[02:17] <zexr0> Warbo, well actually do you know if pcsx is in the source of ubuntu by defaut or it's in another source ... because i don't knwo myself, so that may be a bug to report but then again I don't know
[02:17] <simian__> hyphenated: but I just port scanned a website and it had many open ports but not 80
[02:17] <johnsie> ubuntu i have nvidia and it works great
[02:17] <futlib> I want this change ONLY for my own user btw
[02:17] <Ohzie> Fucking place is closed!
[02:17] <Ohzie> :O
[02:17] <Warbo> ubuntu: (Well, last time I checked Dapper had newer drivers than when I checked on nvidia.com last :))
[02:17] <crimsun_> zexr0: you can search for it (yes, it is).
[02:17] <Ron_o> I'm constantly having problems ejecting/unmounting my cd and cd-r...
[02:17] <Ron_o> what gives?
[02:18] <Ohzie> Wow uhh wrong channel. Sorry.
[02:18] <Healot> futlib: users can select their own language UI on the login screen
[02:18] <mephistopheles> hello , i entered the error when upgrade to dapper Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:18] <Ron_o> when a cd rom is busy, how can you tell what's holding it up?
[02:18] <hyphenated> simian__: so they have a decent firewall in front of it that detects portscan attempts.
[02:18] <Ohzie> Ron_o: force a umount on it
[02:18] <adamant1988> Ron_o: I've noticed that as well, the work around for me was to eject it from the desktop
[02:18] <Healot> btw, the action only change the locale for current user, futlib
[02:18] <Ron_o> adamant1988, I've tried that..
[02:18] <Ron_o> right click and all.
[02:18] <Ron_o> let me try forcing it...
[02:18] <hyphenated> simian__: if you open http://www.google.com in a browser, it connects to www.google.com port 80
[02:18] <adamant1988> Ron_o: Oh, idk then... we must be having different problems
[02:19] <simian__> hyphenated: oh i see, but my port 80 is open, that's not a real security risk is it?
[02:19] <futlib> Healot: this gnome-language-selector only seems to work with a root account
[02:19] <Healot> simian__: did you install apache?
[02:19] <futlib> Healot: I'm a user here
[02:19] <johnsie> I dunno if I'm supposed to say that in here but I couldnt eject cd's. I used automatix to fix it...
[02:19] <hyphenated> simian__: if nothing is "listening" on that port, then they can't do much. they could try SYN flooding but that's about it
[02:19] <simian__> Healot: yes that's why I opened it
[02:19] <mephistopheles> hello , i entered the error when upgrade to dapper Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:19] <johnsie> but I'm sure there's a simpler way
[02:19] <Healot> futlib: yes, you need to install the appropriate files first
[02:20] <futlib> Healot: they are there
[02:20] <Healot> then user can select their UI language on the login screen, futlib
[02:20] <futlib> Healot: login screen, great
[02:20] <simian__> hyphenated: ok thanks,
[02:20] <futlib> Healot: all I wanted to know, thanks :D
[02:20] <H080J03> k i have just installed ubuntu server 6.06 and i want a gnome to be up and running, what do i do?
[02:20] <apokryphos> H080J03: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:20] <twheeler> I'm looking for help on an easy way to get dual monitors working...using xfce
[02:20] <adamant1988> isn't it like apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:21] <Tobberoth> Why won't Rhymebox let me change artist/genre and even playcount for my mp3s? They are on a FAT32 partition.
[02:21] <Healot> simian__: security threats depends on your defintion... but HTTP doesn;t hurt much, unless you have buggy programmable pages...
[02:21] <kieranDOA> Anyone else having problems with flash on PPC?
[02:21] <apokryphos> Tobberoth: is it mounted read/write? Is it mounted by root?
[02:21] <Tobberoth> I'm pretty sure it's read/write, yeah.
[02:21] <Tobberoth> It's mounted in the fstab
[02:21] <runelind> hey, I'm following the page at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253
[02:22] <runelind> and I don't have compiz in gconf-editor
[02:22] <Tobberoth> . /Share
[02:22] <runelind> and it told me to possibly install battlehorse and then update to compiz
[02:22] <simian__> Healot: ok, http is all i have open, so that should be alright?
[02:22] <apokryphos> Tobberoth: then perhaps it was mounted by root, and hence users probably can't edit the meta-data of the files
[02:22] <runelind> which I can't find
[02:22] <mephistopheles> hello , i met the error when upgrade to Dapper Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:22] <Tobberoth> Yeah, that sounds like the problem :( Anyway to fix it?
[02:22] <runelind> does anyone have any recommendations?
[02:22] <Tobberoth> I sorta like it where it is mounted
[02:22] <mephistopheles> how can i fix it ?
[02:22] <Healot> simian__: do you like to open more? sure up to you
[02:22] <Tobberoth> Or hmm
[02:22] <smax> where can i get an ascii file that contains the entire english dictionary including parts of speech?
[02:22] <smax> and mabey definitions
[02:22] <apokryphos> Tobberoth: sure, what's the current fstab entry?
[02:22] <Tobberoth> can I mount it in like /home/tobberoth/share?
[02:22] <Tobberoth> Hold on
[02:22] <Zambezi> I can't upload repos. I get error messages when I'm trying to install Gnome. It works in Breezy. How can I solve this?
[02:23] <Healot> upload repos?
[02:23] <Zajjko> What's the command for seeing all available partitions/HDDs?
[02:23] <Tobberoth> apokryphos: /dev/sda8  /share vfat auto,users,rw,umask=000 0 0
[02:23] <apokryphos> Zajjko: sudo fdisk -l
[02:23] <simian__> Healot: what do you mean?
[02:23] <Zambezi> Healot: Update. apt-get update doesn't work.
[02:23] <Zajjko> thank you
[02:23] <apokryphos> Tobberoth: sudo umount /share && mount /share
[02:24] <ASTX813> I'm missing something, trying to make dapper auto login.
[02:24] <magicfab> anyone using Gaim ? is it normal it takes 100% CPU when I join #ubuntu and takes forever (specially with >800 users)
[02:24] <apokryphos> Zambezi: please pastebin the output
[02:24] <thelostpatrol> hey apok i had another quesiton: if i ever decided to uninstall ubuntu, how do i go about that?
[02:24] <Healot> your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:24] <apokryphos> magicfab: I haven't used gaim, but I presume that (as Kopete) it's not ideal for IRC
[02:24] <kieranDOA> Does anyone know why im having problems with flash?
[02:24] <thelostpatrol> 'cause right now when i boot i see different options on which OS to load
[02:24] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: you'd just have to overwrite the partition
[02:24] <kieranDOA> I can get it to play, but it plays very fast with no sound or just a static like sound
[02:24] <Zambezi> apokryphos: It's on an other computer which is turned off. And it's i Swedish too. :-P
[02:25] <magicfab> kieranDOA, what problems
[02:25] <thelostpatrol> and i don't know if that would be removed if i erased the partition
[02:25] <Tobberoth> apokryphos: I did that.. still won't work
[02:25] <jighead> smax, there are a ton of packages that show up if you aptitude search dict
[02:25] <Healot> !flash
[02:25] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:25] <spartas> thelostpatrol: you may have multiple kernels installed, they would appear as a list when your machine boots
[02:25] <Tobberoth> Can I umount it then mount it to like.. /home/tobberoth/share, and it will work?
[02:25] <apokryphos> Tobberoth: can you make a directory, for example, somewhere in /Share?
[02:25] <Tobberoth> Yeah apo
[02:25] <Tobberoth> I can make directories, make files, etc
[02:26] <apokryphos> Tobberoth: nah, it wouldn't change.
[02:26] <Ron_o> Ohzie, I tried forcing the mount with switch -f and I tried to remount with readonly , just like the man page said.
[02:26] <Ron_o> both say the device is busy..
[02:26] <Ron_o> ughhhh!
[02:26] <kieranDOA> magicfab: Already read.
[02:26] <apokryphos> Tobberoth: must be a rhythmbox problem then I guess
[02:26] <Tobberoth> I can save normal files to it etc
[02:26] <thelostpatrol> the list has ubuntu, ubuntu safe mode and some kind of memory test, and winxp home
[02:26] <__mikem> Sometimes flash just fails to install when you try to do it in the browser, if this happens just buck up, go to the macromedia website, download the tar.gz file, and do it by hand. Its really not that bad
[02:26] <Tobberoth> Hmm, allright. Thanks for the help :)
[02:26] <Ohzie> Ron_o: Sorry. I forget how I solved the problem.
[02:26] <Ron_o> I think I'll reboot X. That'll probably do it and I'll figure this stuff out later.
[02:26] <Zambezi> apokryphos: It was something like: Failed to get. Some packed couldn't be downloaded. Temporary fail. Something like that.
[02:27] <Ron_o> I know I'm the problem where I didn't unmount correctly.
[02:27] <Ron_o> but anyway..
[02:27] <spartas> thelostpatrol: no multiple kernels then (yet), those are the default ones you get after a fresh install
[02:27] <apokryphos> Zambezi: I recommend retrying in a couple of hours then
[02:27] <Ron_o> I just hate restarting because it's so Windowish..
[02:27] <__mikem> Ron, if you are dealing with source files, just uncomment the lins that begin with "deb"
[02:27] <kieranDOA> Well ive fixed the problem of it going to fast
[02:27] <thelostpatrol> so if i formatted the linux partition, the whole list would disappear?
[02:27] <kieranDOA> just need sound now
[02:27] <thelostpatrol> and it'd just go into xp like usual?
[02:27] <__mikem> bbl
[02:27] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: nope
[02:28] <thelostpatrol> how would i remove it then
[02:28] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: the list would be there, but you wouldn't be able to go into Ubuntu
[02:28] <Tobberoth> How do I change so Firefox automatically opens videofiles (all of them preferably) with VLC insted of movie player?
[02:28] <kyledye> fixmbr
[02:28] <Zambezi> apokryphos: Same fault a couple of days ago. And at the same time, it worked to update Breezy.
[02:28] <apokryphos> thelostpatrol: you'd have to go over the mbr
[02:28] <thelostpatrol> ah
[02:28] <apokryphos> Zambezi: you'd have to pastebin your sources.list then
[02:28] <thelostpatrol> okay
[02:28] <thelostpatrol> well i'm not going to do that just yet, i was just asking
[02:28] <thelostpatrol> thanks though
[02:29] <RandolphCarter> Ron_o: if you want to find what process is using a file on a mount (so you can't unmount it), 'find . -exec fuser {} \;' should do the trick
[02:29] <spartas> thelostpatrol: what type of processor are you running on?
[02:29] <dungodung> does 6.06 have php5 and apache2 or still the old ones?
[02:29] <thelostpatrol> pm 1.86
[02:29] <darkprophet> hi all, i just installed ubuntu, but i want to "su" and i dont know the root password
[02:29] <RandolphCarter> Ron_o: cd to the mount first btw :/
[02:29] <darkprophet> the installer didn't give me a chance to set one...
[02:29] <zexr0> darkprophet,
[02:29] <zexr0> use sudo
[02:29] <Zambezi> apokryphos: Will do if I can remote my computer. It's just serverinstall with no WM.
[02:29] <Tobberoth> darkprophet: you can't su on ubuntu
[02:29] <darkprophet> ah right
[02:29] <zexr0> there's no root on ubuntu
[02:29] <Tobberoth> use "sudo -i"
[02:30] <Tobberoth> it's the same thing
[02:30] <krazykit> ubotu: tell darkprophet about root
[02:30] <zexr0> foir security purpose
[02:30] <Healot> thee is a root account in ubuntu, it is disabled however
[02:30] <spartas> thelostpatrol: for better performance,  you'll probably want a 686 kernel (run apt-get install linux-686)
[02:30] <Healot> no POSIX OS going to run with root account. hoho
[02:31] <Healot> without*
[02:31] <thelostpatrol> really
[02:31] <thelostpatrol> hmm i think i might look into that
[02:31] <apokryphos> darkprophet: FAQ is good :)
[02:31] <spartas> thelostpatrol: the command should actually be sudo apt-get install linux-686
[02:31] <thelostpatrol> cause this 386 is rather slow
[02:31] <Ron_o> hey Ohzie I figured it out... just being in the directory itself via the terminal is enough to get a 'busy' signal..
[02:32] <spartas> technically it's a 486 kernel, but i'm not one to argue semantics
[02:32] <Healot> i386 is more compatible with most CPU, but if you have P3 or higher or equivalent, 686 kernel should do better
[02:32] <Ron_o> all I did was close my terminal (just to make sure) and that did it.
[02:32] <darkprophet> excellent guys! Thats great
[02:32] <thelostpatrol> at first i thought it was the video driver but then apok notified me that it was already installed
[02:32] <thelostpatrol> so... i have no idea
[02:32] <darkprophet> 1 more thing...any ideas how to install the nvidia driver ?
[02:32] <krazykit> ompaul: hahaha, but i enabled root on my machine
[02:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell darkprophet about nvidia
[02:33] <Tobberoth> nvidia is easy to install, but be careful
[02:33] <Tobberoth> I did it right, but still X got messed up
[02:33] <ompaul> krazykit, what you do in the privacy of your own command line is for you to choose, what you tell others is more important :-)
[02:33] <Tobberoth> so be sure how to restore the xorg.conf
[02:33] <spartas> ompall, so true, so true
[02:33] <Healot> Tobberoth: if X is still messed up, there is always something wrong
[02:33] <duneatreides> Hello all, I need some assiantance
[02:33] <Healot> duneatreides: ask the question
[02:33] <Healot> we all need assistance
[02:33] <thelostpatrol> ok well, i'm off for now, adieu
[02:34] <krazykit> ompaul: which is why, here, i will preach sudo as the gospel :-P
[02:34] <Tobberoth> Healot: I know. I got it fixed later. The problem was i had the 386 kernel. I updated to 686 and it worked great.
[02:34] <kieranDOA> !ati
[02:34] <linlin> how do i see the size of a directory and everything in it from a command line
[02:34] <ubotu> [ati]  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[02:34] <spartas> may there be a higher being to help anyone who messes up the dd of and if parameters
[02:34] <duneatreides> my mouse is acting weird, it is not very responsive, and where can I find info/documentation to fix it
[02:34] <Healot> define "weird", duneatreides
[02:34] <krazykit> spartas: it's simple.  dd if=/thing-to-copy of=/place-or-file-to-copy-to
[02:35] <apokryphos> linlin: du -h /some/directory
[02:35] <Healot> slow ccursor movement eh? duneatreides
[02:35] <duneatreides> i move the mouse, but on the screen it is really jerky, and it just stops
[02:35] <spartas> naturally, but there is someone, somewhere i'm sure
[02:35] <pozdiy> after upgrading to Dapper have troubles with network - accessing "netowrking" panel under Gnome hangs everything deadly
[02:35] <Mageknight> I played STARCRAFT. but i couldnt enjoy it. Theres a delay of the movements, but my system passed the requirements???
[02:35] <duneatreides> i believe so,
[02:35] <Healot> maybe you're using vesa mode for X, duneatreides?
[02:35] <Tobberoth> Mageknight, do you have all the drivers you need etc?
[02:36] <Mageknight> Tobberoth: what do you mean the drivers all i need.
[02:36] <duneatreides> i don't know, what I do know that I did some automatic updates for Breezy, I tried restarted
[02:36] <Tobberoth> Mageknight: Do you have like, nvidia/Ati drivers for your graphics card?
[02:36] <Tobberoth> Games can be pretty demanding, even old ones.
[02:36] <darkprophet> how do I know what "version" of ubuntu im running? Breezy or something else...
[02:36] <Healot> duneatreides: is the color set to low, duneatreides?
[02:36] <darkprophet> i just downloaded the ISO
[02:36] <apokryphos> darkprophet: cat /etc/issue
[02:37] <RandolphCarter> darkprophet: lsb_release -a
[02:37] <Mageknight> Tobberoth: u mean like the one we use to install when using windows through CD's???
[02:37] <Healot> or just paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to pastebin.com duneatreides
[02:37] <darkprophet> dapper...aha!
[02:37] <darkprophet> nice name :)
[02:37] <Healot> you prefer panda? darkprophet?
[02:37] <spartas> apokryphos, i was actually looking for the name of that recently (looking for an ubuntu_release or something)
[02:38] <darkprophet> whats panda ? :O
[02:38] <Mageknight> Tobberoth: so u mean to say i still have to install the nvidia drivers even linux has a universal drivers for my video card???
[02:38] <Healot> I prefer if Mark name th next release of ubuntu as "Fat Panda"
[02:39] <Tobberoth> Mageknight: Yes.
[02:39] <spartas> sorry there, the next one is edgy eft
[02:39] <apokryphos> Healot: alliteration appears to be a necessary prerequisite :P
[02:39] <Mageknight> Tobberoth: is it because of the wine or not???
[02:39] <wastrel> i downloaded photos from my digital camera
[02:39] <Tobberoth> Mageknight: Ubuntu installs general drivers for your manufacturer, but you need real drivers for your card if you want decent performance.
[02:40] <Mageknight> Tobberoth: how do i install nvidia drivers for my video card. coz i dont have the driver CD anymore
[02:40] <Jimmey__> !nvidia
[02:40] <Tobberoth> !tell Mageknight about nvidia
[02:40] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:40] <spartas> but i'm sure there's a pouty panda somewheres out there in the release schedule to consul those that are never satisfied
[02:40] <__mikem> Megaknight, my nvidia worked just fine with the stock drivers that come with ubuntu
[02:41] <Tobberoth> __mikem: It does, but not good. I have a 7800GS, a great card. I still got lagg in most of the wallpapers.
[02:41] <Tobberoth> *screensavers i mean
[02:41] <__mikem> Oh
[02:41] <] GoldenDragon> according to http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html it asks to use 'sudo python easyubuntu.py' for the nightly snapshot... and i've tried that but it can't find the file... so i try easyubuntu.in and it runs....(or it looks like it... cuz it looks liked it did when i first ran easyubuntu)
[02:41] <apokryphos> Tobberoth: do you have hardware acceleration enabled?
[02:41] <] GoldenDragon> however.. this time it stops running because previous packages are damaged and it says to repair those first.
[02:41] <Jimmey__> Yeah man. I though the point of the screensavers was to save power, but my computer's running hard to get some of the more complex ones to run
[02:42] <Tobberoth> apokryphos: Since i got nvidia-xgl it has worked great :)
[02:42] <Jimmey__> ] GoldenDragon: Try sudo apt-get -f install
[02:42] <apokryphos> Tobberoth: glxinfo|grep -i direct ?
[02:42] <acidjedi> Will anyone here help me for a second in PM?
[02:42] <DarthShrine> How does one remount / so that it is rw? It went ro and I can't access stuff like man, or open firefox to look how.
[02:42] <Tobberoth> direct rendering: yes
[02:43] <apokryphos> ok, that's fine
[02:43] <Sukre^n_Pudre> help ! under ubuntu dapper this /etc/rc.d/rc.modules <- where is ?
[02:43] <] GoldenDragon> u;kk try,
[02:43] <apokryphos> acidjedi: ask your question
[02:43] <] GoldenDragon> *i'll
[02:43] <acidjedi> its lengthy, may I pm?
[02:43] <apokryphos> acidjedi: if there's a lot of information then you should use a pastebin
[02:43] <Zambezi> apokryphos: It doesn't work to remote it, but the repos is unchanged from the installation.
[02:43] <spartas> darthshrine: is it a windows partition?
[02:44] <apokryphos> acidjedi: with a brief description in here
[02:44] <acidjedi> Its not lines upon lines, just I don't want to burdon this chat
[02:44] <apokryphos> Zambezi: why doesn't remote work?
[02:44] <DarthShrine> spartas, / is the ext3 root partition
[02:44] <spartas> k, mounting with -w should mount it read/write
[02:44] <apokryphos> acidjedi: no burden; this is a support channel :)
[02:44] <spartas> but it should mount r/w by default
[02:45] <DarthShrine> spartas, Yeah, but it had errors-ro, so it went ro.
[02:45] <nixuser> running a laptop with 512 ddr2 memory and sata hdd, experiencing lock ups, any known problems with dapper on this type of hardware?
[02:45] <acidjedi> My windows crashed last night, so I fully switched to ubuntu. I have 2 hdd's and I have a bunch of stuff on my second larger one. I want to reinstall windows so that I can more easily play games and access those files. Is there a how to anywhere on how to do this?
[02:45] <Zambezi> apokryphos: I don't know. I installed openssh-server, but I'm not able to access.
[02:45] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: if you're on a laptop, try adding 'noapic nolapic acpi=off' to the boot options
[02:45] <spartas> yeah, you should check errors unmounted first, then run mount -a to reload fstab
[02:46] <apokryphos> acidjedi: reinstall Windoze, and then recover your GRUB by: /msg ubotu grub
[02:46] <Tobberoth> acidjedi: Not a problem. Intall windows on a free partition, then just reinstall grub
[02:46] <apokryphos> Zambezi: what's the error?
[02:46] <nixuser> randolph: how exactly would i do that
[02:46] <Zambezi> apokryphos: Network error: Connection timed out.
[02:46] <acidjedi> So I reboot with the windows cd in the drive (after I free a partition) and it will install there if I tell it to? After that, how do I get back here?
[02:46] <apokryphos> Zambezi: it's ssh package you want to install
[02:47] <DarthShrine> spartas, What do you mean?
[02:47] <RandolphCarter> nixuser:  you can add it to the defoptions= line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:47] <acidjedi> Like, if GRUB isn't fixed how do I boot back into ubuntu?
[02:47] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: then run 'sudo update-grub'
[02:47] <nixuser> randolph: thank you
[02:47] <Tobberoth> acidjedi: Use the ubuntu liveCD
[02:47] <spartas> run e2fsck on the drive with it unmounted (boot into single user mode first)
[02:47] <Tobberoth> you can install GRUB to the windows partition while in the liveCD
[02:47] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: np's, that fixes common problems with lockups/slowdown on laptops
[02:47] <spartas> that will check the drive for errors
[02:48] <DarthShrine> spacey, Ah.
[02:48] <revilot> im trying to execute some stuf in terminal so i type in the code and at the end it asks me if i want to continue (Y/n) and i hit y then enter and it keeps saying abort
[02:48] <revilot> no matter what i type it says abort
[02:48] <Zambezi> apokryphos: No. I installed it. I would to remote my f-ing computer so I can copy sources.list.
[02:48] <luke> I am running Compiz. I want <Alt>F2 to open up a terminal, so I ran gconf-editor as my user and root, and changed it but it still isn't working. can anyone help?? please?
[02:49] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, i can't hear anything when i play an AVI but I can see the video.... and I can hear music from mp3s
[02:49] <apokryphos> luke: alt+f2 is set to do that by default
[02:49] <] GoldenDragon> i was able to hear sound before...
[02:50] <luke> apokryphos, alt+f2 defaults to program launcher, not a terminal window
[02:50] <apokryphos> sorry, yes
[02:50] <acidjedi> Thank you Tobberoth, I will do that, thanks
[02:50] <shawn__> [17:48]  <shawn__> hey whenever i try and install an app i get the following error during "./configure":
[02:50] <shawn__> [17:48]  <shawn__> configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths
[02:50] <shawn__> [17:48]  <shawn__> anyone know what i need to install
[02:50] <revilot> anyone have any idea why after i enter code in terminal then hit y when it asks if i want to continue it keeps aborting
[02:50] <Jimmey__> shawn__: What are you trying to install?
[02:51] <shawn__> Simple System Monitor, its a kicker applet
[02:51] <shawn__> for kde
[02:51] <darkprophet> you guys are great! nvidia driver works
[02:51] <sarixe> does anyone experience a problem with Xorg that it won't let you shut down, but rather gives you a blank screen? if so, how do i fix the problem?
[02:52] <Jimmey__> shawn__: Are you sure, before you compile, that the package isn't available in the repositories?
[02:52] <darkprophet> just resolution is left...its 1024x768 and i want it at 1152x1024, the screen resolution picker isnt allowing me that option
[02:52] <darkprophet> any ideas ?
[02:52] <nixuser> randolph: im not sure what to edit here, i understand under default options, but everything seems to be comment out already in there
[02:52] <digirat> hey, i tried upgrading from breezy into dapper... and now my x server won't start
[02:52] <shawn__> i checked in adept and with the command line (ssm and simplesystemmonitor) but it wasnt found
[02:52] <apokryphos> shawn__: no pasting like that please. What version of KDE do you have? System monitor is available in 3.5 by default
[02:53] <Jimmey__> darkprophet: Try "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org"
[02:53] <sarixe> darkprophet: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:53] <Jimmey__> darkprophet: Then choose to configure the monitory yourself.
[02:53] <apokryphos> Jimmey__: no need to back up there, the dpkg-reconfigure does it automatically
[02:53] <sarixe> Jimmey__: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will auto backup with the date at the end of the file.
[02:53] <kermitX_> darkprophet, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:53] <shawn__> sorry, i actually had put it into kate and copied w/o my name/timestamps/etc but for some reason it pasted the original copy i did
[02:53] <Jimmey__> apokryphos: Thanks, I didn't know that.
[02:54] <shawn__> im using kde 3.5.2
[02:54] <digirat> when i try to startx, i get errors. how do i reconfigure the settings?
[02:54] <revilot> can someone please help me set up ndis wrapper, ive tried following instructions but nothing will work
[02:54] <apokryphos> digirat: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:54] <apokryphos> shawn__: then it's fully available
[02:54] <sarixe> anyone know how to fix X? every time i shut down, X freezes, and ubuntu can't shut down properly.
[02:54] <apokryphos> shawn__: right-click > add applet to panel
[02:55] <shawn__> im trying to use simple system monitor, it is a little square that spins based on cpu usage...
[02:55] <digirat> "xswerver-xorg is broken or not fully installed"
[02:55] <apokryphos> shawn__: as a note, #kubuntu is generally better suited for kde-related questions :)
[02:55] <Jimmey__> sarixe: Try CTRL + ALT + F1, then sudo poweroff. If that works, then there's some funky problem with X
[02:55] <sarixe> digirat: typo
[02:55] <bioeng> Hey guys I need some help installing Ubuntu
[02:55] <XVampireX> Where do I configure alsa?
[02:55] <digirat> i typed it wrong in here
[02:55] <sarixe> Jimmey__: k
[02:55] <Jimmey__> bioeng: We'll help
[02:55] <sarixe> trying it now
[02:55] <shawn__> yeah, i know, i tried #kubuntu first but i get better responses here :D
[02:55] <apokryphos> XVampireX: alsamixer in terminal
[02:55] <ali_> hey guys
[02:55] <Ron_o> bioeng, what do ya need to know?
[02:55] <bioeng> I burned an ISO of AMD64 permanent install of Ubuntu
[02:56] <XVampireX> apokryphos, Thanks
[02:56] <digirat> "xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed"
[02:56] <bioeng> Now, I restart my computer
[02:56] <apokryphos> digirat: well, what did you do?
[02:56] <bioeng> and it should install?
[02:56] <Ron_o> yes, as long as your bios is setup properly.
[02:56] <Jimmey__> If the CD's in the tray when you reboot, it should boot the installer, which will guide you through the install
[02:56] <kieranDOA> bioeng: Make sure you have cd set as a boot device
[02:56] <Ron_o> you have to have CDROM boot enabled.
[02:56] <bioeng> It is
[02:56] <Ron_o> and?
[02:56] <Ron_o> what's going on?
[02:56] <XVampireX> apokryphos, Not quite what I needed... I need to get latency down
[02:57] <revilot> is there anyone that might be able to help me with ndiswrapper / broadcom wireless driver installation
[02:57] <Zambezi> bioeng: Change the boot priority. CD first.
[02:57] <shawn__> apokryphos: are you thinking of System Guard as opposed to Simple System Monitor?
[02:57] <XVampireX> Whatever the thing was
[02:57] <apokryphos> XVampireX: hm, not sure; tried in #alsa ?
[02:57] <bioeng> That's what it is set to
[02:57] <Ron_o> what's happeneing then?
[02:57] <XVampireX> Okey, I'll check
[02:57] <Ron_o> what's going wrong?
[02:57] <digirat> i typed in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" .. and got "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed"
[02:57] <apokryphos> shawn__: no
[02:57] <apokryphos> digirat: yes, any other information? Any playing with xorg?
[02:57] <bioeng> When I install, it should also install a boot loader that allows me to boot either Windows XP or Ubuntu at startup?
[02:57] <apokryphos> bioeng: yes
[02:57] <hyphenated> revilot: search the wiki for your wireless card
[02:57] <nixuser> randolphcarter: im lost , no idea where to place that edit for noapci
[02:57] <digirat> i tried upgrading from breezy
[02:57] <Ron_o> dual boot..
[02:58] <gdb> I'm curious, is the freenx server in either universe or multiverse?
[02:58] <apokryphos> digirat: how did you upgrade
[02:58] <kieranDOA> bioeng:yes it should install grub
[02:58] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: at the end of the defoptions= line
[02:58] <shawn__> oh ok, cool, do you happen to know what the package is called? because i dont see it :\
[02:58] <bioeng> If I run into problems during the install, I should be able to return to Windows XP?
[02:58] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:58] <kieranDOA> Just be careful not to mess up the partition table if you dont want to loose windows :-)
[02:58] <gdb> I'm looking to replace my Fedora Core server with Ubuntu and I want to make sure I won't lose functionality if I do that.
[02:58] <nixuser> im in that
[02:58] <Ron_o> bioeng, do you have a backup?
[02:58] <apokryphos> bioeng: correct
[02:58] <digirat> apokryphos, changed repos to dapper, and did dist-upgrade
[02:58] <Ron_o> you should because it's a separate partition.
[02:58] <nixuser> defoptions= default options?
[02:58] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: well, search for defoptions then
[02:58] <bioeng> I don't have a backup
[02:58] <gdb> (Other than SELinux, obviously, which I don't care about).
[02:59] <Ron_o> ok
[02:59] <apokryphos> digirat: did you have ubuntu-desktop installed before upgrading?
[02:59] <aleka> anyone interested in helping a nooB
[02:59] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: yes, it's a line in that file.  add 'noapic nolapic acpi=off' to the end of it, then save and run 'sudo update-grub'
[02:59] <apokryphos> aleka: ask here =)
[02:59] <digirat> i had kubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <Jimmey__> aleka: hundreds of us:P
[02:59] <bioeng> My computer did not include a Windows XP disk, yet it was installed
[02:59] <nixuser> ok
[02:59] <apokryphos> digirat: definitely?
[02:59] <apokryphos> digirat: is it still installed now?
[02:59] <digirat> yes, i was using it
[02:59] <digirat> i hope so? :P
[02:59] <ThePub> good evening
[02:59] <aleka> I have apache2 running on my ubuntu along with php4 and mysql
[02:59] <sarixe> Jimmey__: ctrl-alt-f1 crashed X
[02:59] <apokryphos> digirat: dpkg -l|grep kubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <Ron_o> bioeng, I can't stress enough to have a backup.... however, it's your choice..
[02:59] <Jimmey__> sarixe: Did it fall back to the prompt?
[03:00] <aleka> i have also installed the library for apache php integration
[03:00] <sarixe> Jimmey__: no, it crashed X
[03:00] <Jimmey__> sarixe: A black screen?
[03:00] <sarixe> yes
[03:00] <aleka> but I can't seem to be able to open php files in my browser [get the option to open as source] 
[03:00] <apokryphos> digirat: also, what do you mean by "yes, I was using it"? It's a metapackage, it can be removed at any time and you wouldn't notice any difference
[03:00] <bioeng> I need the retail Windows XP CD to have a backup of Windows XP?
[03:00] <aleka> i have read suggestions on this on the forums page and have tried everything
[03:00] <digirat> apokryphos, not installed
[03:01] <apokryphos> digirat: then you didn't have it before upgrading :)
[03:01] <digirat> apokryphos, then i didn't. how do i get it now?
[03:01] <Sgeo> Hi all
[03:01] <livingdaylight> is java 1.5 available now for ubuntu? i see 1.4 in repos
[03:01] <apokryphos> digirat: I can't stress this enough: you HAVE to have one of the metapackages (ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop etc) installed before you upgrade. Any good upgrade guide will tell you this.
[03:01] <Sgeo> Dumb question, but what's the default Drake wallpaper?
[03:01] <aleka> what should i do to get apache to serve php files?
[03:01] <harisund> aleka are you getting the standard "What do you want to do with this pfile" error?
[03:01] <nixuser> randolphcarter: should i comment that out like all the other lines?
[03:01] <kermitX_> livingdaylight, java 1.5 is in multiverse.
[03:01] <digirat> apokryphos, i just sorta guessed on the upgrade procedure
[03:01] <Jimmey__> Sgeo: some ugly brown thing.
[03:01] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell aleka about LAMP
[03:01] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: you don't need to add any lines
[03:02] <ali_> been checkin out www.recoveryourlife.com, think it could do wiv some donations since it runs on ubuntu
[03:02] <apokryphos> digirat: bad idea, you're playing with your system's life 8)
[03:02] <digirat> apokryphos, how do i fix it?
[03:02] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: defoptions= is commented already, and should remain commented.  just type the things I said at the end of it
[03:02] <livingdaylight> kermitX_: huh? why have i only got 1.4?
[03:02] <aleka> yes, browser opens up a prompt window : what do you want to do  Save, open?
[03:02] <bioeng> One more question:  Will a Linksys USB wireless adapter work on ubuntu?
[03:02] <apokryphos> digirat: it might not be easy to do, for some it's not possible. Essentially depends on a lot of things. Try installing the package now. If things go smooth, you might be in luck.
[03:02] <sarixe> Jimmey__: any suggestions?
[03:02] <nixuser> ok time to reboot
[03:03] <nixuser> thank you
[03:03] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: run 'sudo update-grub' first
[03:03] <digirat> apokryphos, i can't get eth0 up
[03:03] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: np's
[03:03] <nixuser> yes i did thanks
[03:03] <Ron_o> bioeng, what I meant by backup was to backup important data, and you can backup everything in an exact image.. etc..
[03:03] <harisund> aleka, if you are willing to, we can go over the process. Basically it involves a complete reinstall, and I have not known it to fail so far..
[03:03] <hyphenated> bioeng: possibly. boot the livecd and plug it in :-)
[03:03] <Pupbuntoo> hi, i just upgraded breezy to dapper.  now it seems that latex is not hyphenating words -- is there some special thing i need to do to get it working again?
[03:03] <apokryphos> digirat: do you have the CD?
[03:03] <Jimmey__> sarixe: there's probably a log to check somewhere, I just don't know which one, sorry
[03:03] <digirat> apokryphos, a dapper cd?
[03:03] <sarixe> k
[03:03] <apokryphos> digirat: yes
[03:03] <digirat> apokryphos, lemme dig through my collection
[03:04] <bioeng> I also have a recovery partition
[03:04] <AlienX> bioeng, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28cards%29%7C%28wireless%29
[03:04] <Ron_o> bioeng, most likely it will out of the box. However, you may have to configure something. There's a list out there for devices that work with ubuntu..
[03:04] <kieranDOA> ali_: no it doesnt :-)
[03:04] <Ron_o> but just give a whirl and see. Try the live CD and see if it works in there..
[03:04] <gilianima> hi
[03:04] <digirat> apokryphos, i seem to be lacking a cd drive
[03:04] <bioeng> I did try the Live CD
[03:04] <aleka> ok... one thing I might need help after reinstallation is how to give apache an alias directory so my web root directory can live outside of the default directory
[03:04] <apokryphos> digirat: then you won't be able to fix that problem at this time
[03:04] <bioeng> It worked well
[03:04] <Ron_o> did it work in there, bioeng ?
[03:04] <harisund> aleka sure no problem.
[03:04] <Ron_o> ok.. then..
[03:04] <kermitX_> livingdaylight, the version that's installed by default is a 'free' implementation... sun-java5-bin is in multiverse repository. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:04] <livingdaylight> kermitX_: ?
[03:04] <digirat> apokryphos, lemme see if i can get a diff drive in
[03:04] <ali_> cheap skates
[03:05] <Jimmey__> aleka: Set the "DocumentRoot" option to where you want the HTML files to be placed
[03:05] <hyphenated> bioeng: did your linksys wireless work on it though? if it does, it'll work just as well on an installed system
[03:05] <aleka> do I need to do anything, like stop the server or just go to the link and follow instructions?
[03:05] <Jimmey__> aleka: Like, "DocumentRoot = /home/apache"
[03:05] <Jimmey__> aleka: gksudo gedit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf - When that's done, restart apache by sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:06] <harisund> hey hang on ...
[03:06] <harisund> Jimmey___ the file you are talking about .. are you sure that is what needs to be edited on an Ubuntu macine?
[03:06] <Jimmey__> harisund: Yep.
[03:06] <bioeng> I just needed to configure the card
[03:06] <fbolduc> Question: Is there anybody helpfull to answer some question about basic Linux programming.
[03:06] <nixuser> randolphcarter: rebooted ok, but i see that ubuntu is loading acpi modules on startup, is this right?
[03:06] <Jimmey__> fbolduc: Yep.
[03:06] <harisund> Jimmey___ that file is to be edited on Apache2 if installed by itself. If you use apt-get DocumentRoot is not in that file
[03:06] <eugman> Can anyone give me a link exaplain .desktop files? I want to do http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192633 but with a local game.
[03:06] <bioeng> I'm hearing about ndiswrapper
[03:07] <fbolduc> Jimmey__: May I speak in private with you?
[03:07] <aleka> jimmey_ what is the gksudo command? If am not being annoying?
[03:07] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: so long as acpi=off, it should be honouring it
[03:07] <Jimmey__> fbolduc: You sure can.
[03:07] <harisund> Jimmey__ DocumentRoot is in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[03:07] <nixuser> ok thanks bro, much appreciated
[03:07] <Jimmey__> aleka: gksudo is sudo for GTK applications.
[03:07] <Jimmey__> !gksudo
[03:07] <bioeng> Is that included with Ubuntu, ndiswrapper is?
[03:07] <MagicFab> aleka, agksudo y like sudo, but graphic
[03:07] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run qt applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[03:07] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: any improvement? :) and nps
[03:07] <bioeng> By the way, I also had video card difficulties
[03:07] <nixuser> randolph: it takes a while for the laptop to lock up, will test for 24 hours
[03:08] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: ah, okay
[03:08] <eugman> <------------ Would like a link to something explaining .desktop files.
[03:08] <digirat> apokryphos, i have a dapper cd in the drive, but don't know how to install off a cd
[03:08] <Jimmey__> eugman, try "/me would like a like to something explaining .desktop files"
[03:09] <Jimmey__> In the IRC chat window
[03:09] <revilot> hyphenated: ive found it and tried setting up ndis wrapper but i have no idea if im doing it correctly or not
[03:09] <aleka> harisund.. can you walk me thru with LAMP please?
[03:09] <Jimmey__> :P
[03:09] <nixuser> randolph: its a new toshiba, i have been suspicious of the hardware, hopefully this will help
[03:09] <RandolphCarter> eugman: http://www.freedesktop.org
[03:09] <harisund> aleka Sure..
[03:09] <apokryphos> digirat: you will need to use apt-cdrom to get it running. It's been some time, so I don't recall how to use it though
[03:09] <harisund> aleka are you familair with the command line?
[03:09] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: ahh, okay - if it's a poor little laptop, maybe the fans/thermal don't like being on 24-hours? :/
[03:09] <harisund> and by the way, are you on Breezy or Dapper aleka? (not that it matters.. )
[03:09] <revilot> hyphenated: obv im doing something wrong
[03:09] <Ron_o> digirat, it's in the wiki..
[03:09] <Ron_o> I used it..
[03:10] <Ron_o> it tells you exactly what to do...
[03:10] <nixuser> randolph: i enabled frequency stepping and it did not help
[03:10] <Ron_o> !dapper
[03:10] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is Ubuntu 6.06, the "Dapper Drake" release. Released June 1st 2006
[03:10] <aleka> I use the command line quite a bit.. but not an expert user [ I am on Dapper drake] ..
[03:10] <Ron_o> !upgrade
[03:10] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[03:10] <harisund> aleka ok very well. Don't bother ..
[03:10] <sarixe> i think i got it... drm seems to be acting up... i'll disable it
[03:10] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: erk :/ guess you'll just have to hope, my toshiba laptop's been running for 4 years w/o trouble now
[03:10] <eugman> RandolphCarter, Actually I'll probably be fine if you can just tell me what the tryexec field mean.
[03:10] <aleka> 've used apt-get install a lot... but sudo aptitude [as in the website]  is a new command to me
[03:11] <RandolphCarter> eugman: I haven't a clue, was just pointing you to the docs on .desktop files :)
[03:11] <nixuser> randoph: best buy 400 dollar cheapo  :)
[03:11] <digirat> apokryphos, and now i know why my install never finished ... "not enough space"
[03:11] <eugman> Yes, well I'm afraid specification are probably too cryptic and advanced for me.
[03:11] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: ahh, UK here :P factory reconditioned, probably ex-rental or ex-show
[03:11] <Ohzie> What's the package you need to install for usermode linux?
[03:11] <eugman> Can anyone tell me what the tryexec field in a .desktop means?
[03:11] <Jimmey__> digirat: I'm not sure that Ubuntu will install to a target that doesn't have enough space.
[03:11] <apokryphos> digirat: sudo apt-get clean
[03:11] <Ron_o> digirat, I had the same problem. D/l the iso - burn and use it as part of apt.
[03:12] <nixuser> randolph: usually i go for the dell latitude refurbs, but this seemed to be the better deal at the time
[03:13] <ToHellWithGA> oi vey my roommate is mixing my $30/bottle gin with fucking fruit juice
[03:13] <nixuser> later, time to play some games, thanks again
[03:13] <digirat> why is openoffice a requirement for ubuntu-desktop?
[03:13] <ToHellWithGA> digirat: remove the package if you don't like it
[03:13] <Ron_o> in dapper it's not.
[03:13] <apokryphos> digirat: .....because it's the office suite that comes with the default ubuntu distribution
[03:13] <wastrel> i have dapper
[03:13] <dallgood> i have dual monitors setup in twinview, but does anyone know why windows maximize to fill both monitors?  i want maximized windows to fill only 1 monitor
[03:14] <Ron_o> I suppose, too, they feel that it's needed.
[03:14] <kermitX_> digirat, openoffice was chosen as the productivity software suite. you don't need it. you can remove the ubuntu-desktop meta package and then remove whatever parts of it you don't want.
[03:14] <apokryphos> Ron_o: err, I'm pretty sure it is
[03:14] <Ron_o> I got rid of mine in dapper.
[03:14] <Ron_o> w/o losting ubuntu-desktop.
[03:14] <wastrel> what's wrong with openoffice?
[03:15] <eugman> KermitX, of course no meta package can make upgrading harder.
[03:15] <digirat> wow... i did "apt-get remove openoffice.org" and it said that 1050 packages aren't installed correclty
[03:15] <RandolphCarter> digirat: sudo aptitude keep-all
[03:15] <digirat> what the heck do you need openoffice for on a server?
[03:15] <wastrel> oic
[03:15] <Ron_o> you mean you need an upgrade?
[03:15] <apokryphos> digirat: err, you have a server install?
[03:15] <kermitX_> digirat, what are you doing with a graphical desktop on a server? ;)
[03:15] <digirat> no, i used a desktop install as my server
[03:15] <SurfnKid> hey guys question about gaim
[03:15] <apokryphos> digirat: there is of course no OOo on a server install
[03:15] <Ron_o> then get rid of that stuff.
[03:15] <SurfnKid> how come i can connect to AIM but not ICQ
[03:16] <digirat> easier for me back when i didn't know linux at all
[03:16] <kermitX_> digirat, with the alternate cd or server iso edition you can do a 'clean' install and then just install the parts you want.
[03:16] <eugman> Anyone here who understand what the firelds in a .desktop file mean care to explain tryexec to me?
[03:16] <SurfnKid> hows everyone doing tonite? upgrade? install? what have ya all done :P
[03:16] <ruivaldo___> hi, ive installed ubuntu dapper on my laptop. this laptop is connected to a routed lan that distributes the internet between the flats. this lan uses dhcp, which works on windows, but ubuntu wasnt able to setup this properly.
[03:16] <digirat> it appears to be continuing my upgrade... so i think this solved it...
[03:16] <wastrel> dhcp
[03:17] <ruivaldo___> every time i run dhclient, i get a SLOCADDRT: Network is unreachable.
[03:17] <RandolphCarter> eugman: I just searched the standard for you
[03:17] <RandolphCarter> eugman: it's a program run to determine if the main program of the launcher is actually installed (presumably it would try to install it if it wasn't)
[03:17] <SurfnKid> anyone using GAIM
[03:17] <jbroome> no
[03:18] <jbroome> no one is
[03:18] <RandolphCarter> eugman: I assume if that program returns non-zero, the launcher won't execute
[03:18] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid: Yep
[03:18] <kermitX_> SurfnKid, not for irc.
[03:18] <SurfnKid> Jimmey__, do u have ICQ
[03:18] <fbolduc> SurfnKid: Yes, I am.
[03:18] <SurfnKid> how can i connect to ICQ
[03:18] <eugman> k, thanks.
[03:18] <wastrel> SurfnKid:  did you install the icq plugin?
[03:18] <SurfnKid> ive got my old account, works on XP but not there, AIM/ICQ is confusing.
[03:18] <SurfnKid> wastrel, the oscar plugin?
[03:19] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid: Type this into a terminal: Hackey --McHackPhrack || ConnectToIRC sessame
[03:19] <wastrel> i dunno, i don't use icq
[03:19] <SurfnKid> ok
[03:19] <Jimmey__> Sorry SurfnKid, I was joking.
[03:19] <SurfnKid> i thought so
[03:19] <Jimmey__> Sorry :(
[03:20] <SurfnKid> wastrel, what plugin then
[03:20] <darkprophet> i can't find java in the Add/remove menu
[03:20] <darkprophet> any ideas ?
[03:20] <SurfnKid> Jimmey__, hehe np
[03:20] <SurfnKid> darkprophet,  search
[03:20] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid: I don't think you need one.
[03:20] <viator> !xgl
[03:20] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:20] <darkprophet> i tried...its not there
[03:20] <SurfnKid> Jimmey__, but its letting me connect to AIM. and ICQ is also part of AIM so im not sure why
[03:20] <darkprophet> not sun-java5-bin anyway
[03:20] <SurfnKid> darkprophet, enable multiverse and universe maybe, I just installed it last night from a fresh install of Breezy
[03:21] <wastrel> SurfnKid:  nvm, i guess there's not a separate icq plugin
[03:21] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:21] <SurfnKid> wastrel, i heard there is, for the oscar server or something, it has to do with icq but i have no clue
[03:21] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <darkprophet> SurfnKid: sorry...how do i enable universe/multiverse ?
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hihih
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> ih
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <SurfnKid> um
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hih
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <jbroome> !ops henri_ohh_best spamming channel
[03:22] <ubotu> jbroome: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> I'll stop
[03:22] <SurfnKid> bye bye henri_ohh_best
[03:22] <nathansnook> can some one explain apt command to install software
[03:22] <nathansnook> I want to install gftp
[03:22] <SurfnKid> darkprophet, hang on
[03:22] <b0ef> ehlo
[03:22] <ruivaldo___> somebody else had this problem ?
[03:22] <b0ef> I'm trying to help a friend using ubuntu 6.06 to mount his NTFS partition with RW, but it still complains even if mount show the directory as rw. Any pointers as to what I can tell him?
[03:23] <SurfnKid> !universe
[03:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[03:23] <darkprophet> b0ef: dont mount ntfs as RW
[03:23] <SurfnKid> darkprophet, read that
[03:23] <darkprophet> windows wont work once linux has written to it
[03:23] <Jimmey__> b0ef: You can't write to NTFS.
[03:23] <b0ef> Jimmey__: well, it should support writing to NTFS (backups are made)
[03:24] <Jimmey__> b0ef: But NTFS is some closed source McShizzle, dawg
[03:24] <jbroome> holla
[03:24] <SurfnKid> windows wont work peegiod
[03:24] <b0ef> Jimmey__: true, but he needs to clear some files; he's in the process of being freed, though;)
[03:24] <SurfnKid> !icq
[03:24] <ubotu> SurfnKid: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:25] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: gaim does ICQ.
[03:25] <wastrel> supposively
[03:25] <eggzeck> No, it DOES, I use it
[03:25] <reqage> has anyone messed with installing xlibs on dapper?
[03:26] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, under AIM/ICQ
[03:26] <DarkMageZ> b0ef, linux ntfs write support is unstable, and is well known for killing ntfs partitions. if the data is backed up, then feel free to convert the partition to fat32, which linux does RW to fine
[03:26] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: Yes.
[03:26] <twobitsprite> is there a site I can search logs? irclinux.org doesn't seem to let you search
[03:26] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, ive added AIM and logs in. but ICQ returns an error
[03:26] <twobitsprite> !logs
[03:26] <ubotu> logs are at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[03:27] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: All you need to do is enter your ICQ number where it says screen name
[03:27] <twobitsprite> hmm... no searching there either
[03:27] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: When adding an account
[03:27] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, exactly thats what i thought
[03:27] <b0ef> DarkMageZ: I know it is unstable, but it should be possible to write to it
[03:27] <b0ef> DarkMageZ: especially when it's mounted read/write
[03:27] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, ive got an account from back in 95.  My other XP laptop still has it running, recently reinstalled it too. so not sure why i cant here
[03:27] <DarkMageZ> b0ef, this guide might help u get read/write working properly
[03:27] <Jimmey__> b0ef: What if Linux doesn't - know how to?
[03:28] <wastrel> centericq is popular
[03:28] <Jimmey__> centericq rockxz.
[03:28] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: Did you try adding a new account to gaim? Click on "Accounts", then "Add", where it says "Screen Name", put your ICQ number, then password and alias :)
[03:28] <nathansnook> what is the command to update system from the command line
[03:29] <Jimmey__> !update
[03:29] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jimmey__
[03:29] <eggzeck> nathansnook: apt-get update
[03:29] <Jimmey__> !upgrade
[03:29] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[03:29] <eggzeck> nathansnook: apt-get upgrade
[03:29] <Jimmey__> Shamayam
[03:29] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, i followed exactly that for all my other msn, yho, AIM account and they all log in.  maybe i need to check at the icq page or something. but its weird i cant connect
[03:30] <b0ef> Jimmey__: I know it does, reading the linux-ntfs page
[03:30] <eggzeck> nathansnook: If you're on Gnome and still don't have Dapper, gksudo "update-manager -d"
[03:30] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, its strange
[03:30] <DarkMageZ> b0ef, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481
[03:30] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: What's the error?
[03:30] <SurfnKid> hang on
[03:30] <zexr0> any idea about this error ? (<unknown>:5249): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[03:30] <zexr0>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[03:31] <SurfnKid> incorrect nickname or password
[03:31] <jcape> zexr0: What do your LC_ALL, LOCALE, and/or LANG environment variables say?
[03:31] <b0ef> DarkMageZ: thanks; I'll look at that
[03:31] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: Then make sure they're correct. I'm on ICQ now with Gaim
[03:31] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, i think ill do that, you're right
[03:32] <jcape> zexr0: Or: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/07/msg00023.html
[03:32] <SurfnKid> ill check my XP setup for the number
[03:33] <SurfnKid> will upgrading to Dapper change wifi configurations
[03:33] <zexr0> jcape, I saw this site but it dosen't work,
[03:33] <zexr0> I don't know how to give you the information
[03:34] <maxkelley> say, X crashed and I can't even get a vterm to display on my computer. the vterm works, there's nothing on the display. how can I fix this over ssh without a reboot?
[03:35] <maxkelley> .
[03:35] <jcape> env | grep LANG
[03:35] <maxkelley> oops
[03:35] <jcape> zexr0: env | grep LC
[03:35] <jcape> zexr0: env | grep LOC
[03:35] <zexr0> SESSION_MANAGER=local/ZeXr0-UbuntuLaptop:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4974
[03:35] <zexr0> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[03:35] <zexr0> GDM_XSERVER_LOCATION=local
[03:36] <maxkelley> anyone have ideas for me?
[03:36] <zexr0> it might help you to know that i'm trying to make pcsx works with FFVII
[03:36] <jcape> zexr0: Do you have a default locale set?
[03:36] <zexr0> I don't know
[03:37] <SurfnKid> where's the lid settings
[03:38] <SurfnKid> when closing... do this
[03:38] <Ruchu> holas
[03:38] <SurfnKid> when closing... standby
[03:38] <SurfnKid> etc
[03:38] <jcape> zexr0: When you ran "dpkg-reconfigure locales", what did it say after "Generating locales..."?
[03:38] <zexr0> a lot of lines
[03:38] <zexr0> but mainly every en and fr
[03:38] <jcape> zexr0: K
[03:38] <wd3> just installed 3d chess, how do i get running?
[03:38] <genti_> hello people
[03:39] <Shadowinthedark> hello dudes
[03:39] <wastrel> hi everybody
[03:39] <digirat> 3d chess sucks
[03:39] <genti_> i am looking for a trick how to install the fglrx module on an amd64 with xorg 7
[03:39] <Shadowinthedark> gd alseep, l8t night chat sshhh!
[03:39] <Shadowinthedark> gf*
[03:39] <livingdaylight> anyone hear of jNLP file? is that Linux compatible or not?
[03:40] <maxkelley> mehhhhhhh
[03:40] <shawn__> when i try to manually compile an app (Simple System Monitor applet for Kicker in KDE) I get an error during configure: "configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths" anyone else have this issue or know how to fix it? i have build-essential, libx11-dev , libxext-dev, and libxinerama-dev all installed.
[03:40] <pvangarde> hey. do linksys wireless cards work with ubuntu?
[03:40] <pvangarde> can someone help me setup one
[03:40] <Killuminati> Is there a way to view your Ubuntu partition in windows?
[03:40] <maxkelley> shawn__: apt-get install build-essentials
[03:40] <jcape> zexr0: If you run "dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" as root, what is the currently selected locale?
[03:40] <maxkelley> is what I believe you need to do..
[03:41] <RandolphCarter> shawn__: installing xorg-dev should do the trick
[03:41] <Shadowinthedark> pvangarde: try wiv the live cd
[03:41] <AlienX> pvangarde, one sec, i'll get you a link
[03:41] <maxkelley> i think it's actually xserver-xorg-dev
[03:41] <livingdaylight> how does it go? sudo alien <package.rpm> ???
[03:41] <maxkelley> something like that.
[03:41] <pvangarde> Killuminati: sure there's a partition explorer
[03:41] <try_iT_556> hi all, how can i add suport for svg to firefox?
[03:41] <pvangarde> Shadowinthedark: didn't work with the live cd
[03:41] <livingdaylight> or sudo alien install <package.rpm> ???
[03:41] <kbrosnan> try_iT_556, it is in 1.5 by default
[03:41] <Killuminati> pvangarde, Can you be more specific please?
[03:41] <RandolphCarter> shawn__: it might be worth looking into auto-apt too (xorg-dev depends on most packages you'd ever need)
[03:41] <Anonycat> I've installed ndiswrapper on a computer and manually edited /etc/network/interfaces to make a wlan0 interface appear, but it doesn't work.  Is there a (possibly hardware-specific) line that needs to be in the interfaces file to make it work?
[03:42] <zexr0> jcape, C
[03:42] <pvangarde> Killuminati: google explorer linux partition
[03:42] <AlienX> pvangarde, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:42] <maxkelley> mehhh
[03:42] <pvangarde> thanks AlienX
[03:42] <AlienX> pvangarde, np
[03:42] <SurfnKid> does anyone know how to change the LID settings so I cn set standby, shut off oer do nothing
[03:42] <shawn__> RandolphCarter: heh sorry, but whats auto-apt?
[03:42] <Shadowinthedark> pvangarde: i run a rare belkin card, linsys is pretty popular so i wld guess so
[03:43] <livingdaylight> can someone please answer my question regarding alien, please. I know you all know it  :D
[03:43] <maxkelley> Anonycat: i believe that ndiswrapper is installed by default
[03:43] <jcape> zexr0: Was the "manage locales with debconf" checked?
[03:43] <maxkelley> livingdaylight: we're not tech support, we're just doing what we can.
[03:43] <Anonycat> It is, but my wireless card isn't working with it.  The driver says it's present along with the hardware, but it has no network connectivity.
[03:44] <Shadowinthedark> im having probs wiv internet sharing, using firestarter
[03:44] <livingdaylight> maxkelley: ooh...  :o .i am sorry
[03:44] <Shadowinthedark> winxp machine works, but ubuntu wont
[03:44] <RandolphCarter> shawn__: you can use it to automatically fetch required deb's for things like this
[03:44] <shawn__> oh ok thx
[03:44] <livingdaylight> maxkelley: so how do i install withalien then?  :D
[03:45] <shawn__> does it work like apt-get?
[03:45] <maxkelley> livingdaylight: it's ok, I'm a bit groggy.. X is b0rked. I don't know how to use alien :) take a look at man alien
[03:45] <jcape> zexr0: My suggestion is to set the default locale using "dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" (ensuring that the "Manage locales with debconf" checkbox is checked), and then log out/log back in.
[03:45] <shawn__> ie. auto-apt install <package>
[03:45] <Ronz> linux noob question of the night: how do i play mp3 / m4a files in dapper drake?
[03:45] <Shadowinthedark> just brought a bebox, tring to port ubuntu
[03:46] <wastrel> !tell ronz about mp3
[03:46] <maxkelley> bebox?
[03:46] <tareque99> hi everyone
[03:46] <maxkelley> tareque99: how-dee!
[03:46] <tareque99> i am a new user of ubuntu
[03:46] <spikeb> you have a bebox and you're going to desecrate it with ubuntu?
[03:46] <wastrel> beos?
[03:46] <spikeb> :(
[03:46] <livingdaylight> maxkelley: sorry to hear it man...mybox only broke again and i've just had to do a fresh install myself, but i'm trying to keep smiling. But sometimes i even hate to admit i hate Ubuntu. then it works and i love it again...
[03:46] <tareque99> i just have got ubuntu running
[03:46] <wastrel> heh
[03:46] <SurfnKid> :)
[03:46] <tareque99> how do i get apache installed here?
[03:47] <Killuminati> tareque99, sudo aptitude install apache2
[03:47] <Ronz> sudo apt-get install apache
[03:47] <Ronz> 2
[03:47] <livingdaylight> maxkelley: screenresoluti9on is a bummer too, had to manually dpkg reconfigure x
[03:47] <mathfee1> tareque99: sudo apt-get install apache
[03:47] <maxkelley> livingdaylight: it's truly my mistake.. running shells for other people and web hosting on my personal box is stupid.
[03:47] <Shadowinthedark> wastrel: i like experimenting, liking the geek port already
[03:47] <maxkelley> livingdaylight: yeah, I don't like it at all
[03:47] <Ronz> *apache2
[03:47] <mathfee1> hey, I can't get any of my gnome-keyboard shortcut to work...
[03:47] <mathfee1> how come?
[03:47] <Anonycat> I've installed ndiswrapper along with the driver on a computer and manually edited /etc/network/interfaces to make a wlan0 interface appear, but it doesn't work.  Is there a (possibly hardware-specific) line that needs to be in the interfaces file to make it work?
[03:48] <revilot> I just tried to drag and drop some files and ubuntu is telling me i dont have permissions?
[03:48] <mathfee1> where are you trying to drop it at?
[03:48] <revilot> from one file to another
[03:48] <revilot> inside ndiswrapper folder
[03:48] <revilot> folder to another rather
[03:48] <mathfee1> i think that's own by root?
[03:49] <livingdaylight> maxkelley: yea i can see if you get yourself in trouble on account of helping others that can be even moreannoying and source of resentment, and then a guy like me comes along and shouts for help  hehe sorry man.
[03:49] <revilot> why wouldnt i be root
[03:49] <Mark1412> hey guys, how do i bring my recycle bin back to my panel?!?>!?!?!?!
[03:49] <Shadowinthedark> this is gunna sound stupid, any1 using dapper
[03:49] <Killuminati> tareque99, Check out lamp
[03:49] <mathfee1> because in linux, you don't work as root unless you have to for security reason..
[03:49] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, I am
[03:49] <mathfee1> that's what sudo do
[03:49] <revilot> so i cant drag and drop files in linux?
[03:49] <maxkelley> livingdaylight: np :) it's my good personality that's doing it!!!
[03:49] <mathfee1> sudo = super-user do
[03:49] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, you got broadcom card?
[03:49] <firefly> hey...I just accidentally hit ctr+c on apt-get dist-upgrade...that's bad isn't it
[03:49] <mathfee1> it means you have to have proper permission
[03:49] <Mark1412> hey guys, how do i bring my recycle bin back to my panel?!?>!?!?!?!
[03:49] <revilot> its my pc
[03:49] <tareque99> thanks
[03:50] <Shadowinthedark> killuminati: isit any gd?, im waiting on cds to b delivered
[03:50] <revilot> linux wont give me permission
[03:50] <Anonycat> SurfnKid: Linksys WPC54G, with driver lsbcmnds.sys
[03:50] <revilot> ?
[03:50] <mathfee1> if you want to drag/drop it to a folder that's own by root, you need to be root to do it
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> revilot: if you start a file browser as root, sure you can, but a file browser run as you can't do that
[03:50] <jcape> Mark1412: Right-click where you want to re-add it, select "Add to Panel" --> "Trash Applet" --> "Add"
[03:50] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, oh
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> revilot: can't and shouldn't
[03:50] <Mark1412> jcape thanks alot!!!
[03:50] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, miniPCI or usb
[03:50] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, Trust me. It's the best Ubuntu by far. It's refined in every factor =)
[03:50] <firefly> What should I do?
[03:50] <revilot> ok how do i start a file broswer as root
[03:50] <mathfee1> you can't do it and shouldn't do it?
[03:50] <jcape> Mark1412: np
[03:50] <Anonycat> SurfnKid: a PC card
[03:50] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, there's gotta be a How to on that
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> revilot: sudo nautilus --no-desktop
[03:50] <revilot> ok so how can i move files
[03:50] <mathfee1> it's better to use terminal for that reason
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> revilot: gksudo nautilus --no-desktop, sorry
[03:51] <revilot> sigh
[03:51] <mathfee1> sudo cp path_from path_to
[03:51] <mathfee1> and then enters password
[03:51] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, You will love 6.06 =)
[03:51] <revilot> wow
[03:51] <revilot> just to move a file
[03:51] <mathfee1> it's to protect you from overriding system file
[03:51] <RandolphCarter> revilot: you're not just moving a file
[03:51] <Xaero_Vincent> Why are Dapper's packages so out of date?
[03:51] <mathfee1> you are moving a file to a system folder
[03:51] <RandolphCarter> revilot: you're altering the way your system works
[03:51] <dsquared> hello all
[03:52] <Shadowinthedark> killuminati: thats wat i wanted to hear! hope cds get delivered soon, gt a class of students i want to show off to
[03:52] <mathfee1> revilot: you can always freely move and folder that you own
[03:52] <Killuminati> HI dsquared =)
[03:52] <revilot> its not working anyway, i couldnt do much harm
[03:52] <SurfnKid> Shadowinthedark, I had Dapper until yesterday, I was running breezy but i had a few problems getting the wifi card to work correctly, you might not have the same problems, I just went back to Breezy and it works 100%
[03:52] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, Have fun with it =)
[03:52] <mathfee1> if you want to see who own the folder, you can turn on "user/group" in nautilus
[03:52] <revilot> this is my first day with linux
[03:52] <firefly> How do I unlock apt-get after accidentally terminating it in the middle of a dist-upgrade?
[03:52] <tareque99> Killuminati, thanks let me try those
[03:52] <revilot> no idea what nautilus is
[03:53] <Killuminati> tareque99, No problem =)
[03:53] <mathfee1> it's your filemanager
[03:53] <Shadowinthedark> KillKilluminati: i mean educate!!!
[03:53] <genti_> bye people
[03:53] <revilot> the file browser?
[03:53] <firefly> :(
[03:53] <firefly> No one knows?
[03:53] <cherwin> nows what?
[03:53] <dsquared> ne samba people in here?
[03:53] <Shadowinthedark> The best way 2 learn is to play
[03:53] <firefly> How to unlock apt-get after accidentally killing it
[03:54] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, I remember how everybody thought I was a hacker for using linux =) Your turn =).
[03:54] <Killuminati> firefly, Restart Ubuntu.
[03:54] <revilot> i just want my internet to work
[03:54] <mathfee1> revilot: go to edit->perference
[03:54] <firefly> Killuminati: That's not the only way...
[03:54] <dsquared> I have discovered that I have 2 smb.conf files - 1 in etc/samba and 1 in usr/share/samba. I only have 1 Nic do I need both of these files or can I delete 1? if so which 1?
[03:54] <aeon17x> I'm about to dist-upgrade to dapper now.
[03:54] <Shadowinthedark> Killuminati: peeps still think i crazy for using cmd prompt
[03:54] <aeon17x> I just have one more thing to ask -
[03:54] <mathfee1> and List View, turn on Owner and group, then you can see who has ownership of each folder
[03:54] <pppoe_dude> firefly, there should be a lock file in the root directory
[03:54] <mathfee1> in list view
[03:55] <aeon17x> Do I also have to include the kubuntu repos in my sources.list if I have kubuntu installed?
[03:55] <Hobbsee> aeon17x: no
[03:55] <Killuminati> firefly, I think it's alot less hastle.
[03:55] <RandolphCarter> firefly: ps -ef | egrep 'apt|dpkg|debconf' | grep -v grep
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> firefly, try /root/.synaptic/lock
[03:55] <mathfee1> revilot: anyway, specifically, where are you trying to copy the file to?
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> firefly, or !/.synaptic/lock
[03:55] <aeon17x> Hobbsee: the packages I need are also in the ubuntu repos?
[03:55] <RandolphCarter> firefly: if nothing running, remove the lock as pppoe_dude says
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> s/!/~
[03:55] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, Make sure you use the live cd first =)
[03:55] <Hobbsee> aeon17x: yes
[03:55] <aeon17x> Hobbsee: I see, thank you
[03:55] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, You might come accross some unforseen complications.
[03:56] <revilot> i think i put some files in the wrong folder
[03:56] <revilot> wnt to move them to another folder
[03:56] <pppoe_dude> firefly, make sure you 'killall synaptic' and 'killall apt-get' frst
[03:56] <mathfee1> can you give me the full path of the destination directory?
[03:56] <Anonycat> I've installed ndiswrapper along with the driver on a computer and manually edited /etc/network/interfaces to make a wlan0 interface appear, but it doesn't work.  Is there a (possibly hardware-specific) line that needs to be in the interfaces file to make it work?
[03:56] <revilot> i wish i ould
[03:56] <Shadowinthedark> Killuminati: not a prob, got some spare machines to play wiv
[03:56] <revilot> this is completely alien to me
[03:56] <tareque99> okay its not working ** Package apache is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:56] <tareque99> **
[03:56] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, Awesomke =)
[03:56] <Sgeo> "Heuristically, almost sure events are those which have zero probability of not occurring though it is still possible that they might not occur."
[03:56] <wendyalison> Hello, may I ask how I can install a bz2 application?
[03:57] <Sgeo> Err
[03:57] <Shadowinthedark> (dell 620 cough cough)
[03:57] <Sgeo> Wrongchat
[03:57] <mathfee1> i don't use ndiswrapper...so I have no clue where you are suppose to drop your driver file
[03:57] <Hobbsee> !tell tareque99 about lamp
[03:57] <Sgeo> *chan
[03:57] <Killuminati> tareque99, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:57] <mathfee1> revilot: I assume you are trying to copy the windows driver file to where it belongs?
[03:57] <Hobbsee> mathfee1: it can go wherever - just point the ndiswrapper -i /path/to/file/file.inf
[03:57] <revilot> im trying to
[03:57] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, what are the instructions you're following
[03:58] <revilot> i cant wrap my brain around wtf im doing
[03:58] <revilot> im flailing around here
[03:58] <firefly> thank you everyone
[03:58] <mathfee1> Hobbsee: thax, again, i have no clue about ndiswrapper, i use ipw2200
[03:58] <Anonycat> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[03:58] <revilot> whats that
[03:58] <Shadowinthedark> Killuminati: thou i had them using a apple ] [ yester day
[03:58] <Hobbsee> mathfee1: not a problem
[03:58] <j2daosh> hows everyone doing tonight? got a question (obviously). what file do i need to modify in order to change the default grub boot OS? i would like to make a copy and mod it so if i want to get into windows on the next reboot i can copy that file to the grub, and if i want to boot into ubuntu on the next reboot move the linux boot file back over... ya know what i mean?
[03:58] <Killuminati> =X
[03:58] <Anonycat> I went down to the first example, step 7 to figure out what to put in /etc/network/interfaces, but didn't see any hardware-specific items
[03:58] <mathfee1> revilot, where's file currently at? Home folder?
[03:59] <Anonycat> Should there be one?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> j2daosh: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:59] <tareque99> Killuminati, thanks i got php 4 on now i will give a shot at apache
[03:59] <Hobbsee> j2daosh: but i'm not sure that's what you really want...
[03:59] <Killuminati> tareque99, No problem =)
[03:59] <SurfnKid> ok let me see
[03:59] <j2daosh> why not?
[03:59] <revilot> etc/ndiswrapper/bcml5a
[03:59] <pvd2006> I just had something weird happen.  I went to go do sudo apt-get update and my friends computer actually froze during the process to the point where I couldnt use mouse or keyboard.  It was almost done.
[03:59] <wendyalison> I would like to know how to install a bz2 package, I have the file in my desktop, but then I don't know what I should do with it next, can somebody point me to the right direction?
[03:59] <mathfee1> is this where you file currently is? or where you want it go to?
[04:00] <supertanker13> Hi
[04:00] <revilot> want to move it to etc/ndiswrapper/bcml5
[04:00] <Shadowinthedark> Killuminati: i shld just let them on here, save me doing my job
[04:00] <j2daosh> ahh
[04:00] <Kilter> I am booting ubuntu live on a windows box that I think the hard drive is pooched on.  what disk utility is on the live disk that I can use to check the disk
[04:00] <Hobbsee> j2daosh: well, the /boot/grub/menu.lst is on your linux partition - not on the MBR...i think.  why not just pick one as the default, then select it during boot if you want another OS
[04:00] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, lmao
[04:00] <mathfee1> revilot: exactly, /etc/... is where all the configuration file sits, it should not be easy to try to put stuff in that folder...the question is again, do you know where your folder is how?
[04:00] <mathfee1> now?
[04:00] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, PM me
[04:00] <j2daosh> gotcha... because if i change the boot order to windows i wont be able to remote boot it back to linux because linux is the only os that will allow me to get to the grub folder....
[04:00] <Shadowinthedark> bye every1, wf callin be bck 2 bed!!
[04:01] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, I'll try to help ya out
[04:01] <j2daosh> is there a way around that?
[04:01] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, Bye =)
[04:01] <mathfee1> revilot: check below the "Back" button on your file manager, it should list the path
[04:01] <kieranDOA> :(
[04:01] <j2daosh> i have ext2ifs installed on windows... but it wont allow me to write to linux... just run/read stuff from the linux part
[04:01] <Hobbsee> j2daosh: well, not really that so much - but if grub will let you boot either OS, and let you choose at boot time, why would you do anythign else?
[04:01] <revilot> it just has buttons
[04:01] <kieranDOA> Anyone familiar with configuring X on a mac?
[04:01] <revilot> each button has a name in it
[04:01] <mathfee1> yes...what are each button?
[04:01] <revilot> its not like bla/bla/
[04:01] <j2daosh> because im at work...
[04:02] <mathfee1> but that's what it means...
[04:02] <xxx> hello,guys
[04:02] <j2daosh> i cant sit in front of the computer right now to boot to windows...
[04:02] <SurfnKid> hey triple X
[04:02] <revilot> theres what looks like a picture then etc, ndiswrapper, bcml5a
[04:02] <supertanker13> BIG problem, Ubuntu is going nuts! it won't let me log in (when I click my username, or type it in, it says "authentication failure". I managed to boot once, but when I used su and sudo it says "Unknown module, Pam Authenticate" or something
[04:02] <supertanker13> Please help, I really need my Ubuntu system back up
[04:02] <mathfee1> yeah, so that's your destination folder
[04:02] <mathfee1> what about your source folder?
[04:02] <j2daosh> so i was hoping there was a way to change the boot order remotely and do a remote reboot so when it comes up it will come into windows so i can play a game real quick lol
[04:03] <revilot> thats source
[04:03] <revilot> i want the exact same for dest but bcml5
[04:03] <SurfnKid> supertanker13, can you get to a VT
[04:03] <xxx> im a new guy ,i wanna know how can i install software downloaded from web ,anybody help me?thank u
[04:03] <supertanker13> can someone help?
[04:03] <supertanker13> a what?
[04:03] <SAM_theman> speak son
[04:03] <mathfee1> o...you try to rename the folder?
[04:03] <j2daosh> xxx... what software?
[04:03] <supertanker13> SurfnKid: A what?
[04:03] <RandolphCarter> xxx: the chances are good you didn't need to download the program from the web
[04:03] <xxx> j2daosh,opera
[04:03] <j2daosh> VT=virtual terminal....?
[04:03] <RandolphCarter> ah, so you do :P
[04:03] <supertanker13> It won't let me log in
[04:03] <j2daosh> xxx... u using ubuntu?
[04:03] <SurfnKid> supertanker13, CTRL+ALT+F1
[04:03] <Sgeo> What's j2daosh?
[04:04] <supertanker13> I even did ctrl-alt-f1 and It won't let me login
[04:04] <xxx> yea ,im in ubuntu now
[04:04] <SurfnKid> oh
[04:04] <supertanker13> I can boot into recovery mode but am at a lost at what to do
[04:04] <Kilter> can anyone point me at a disk check utility to see if a drive is good/bad?
[04:04] <revilot> mathfee1 i cant do anything to anything
[04:04] <RandolphCarter> xxx: if you downloaded Opera for Ubuntu, just 'sudo dpkg -i *filename*'
[04:04] <j2daosh> ok... system, package manager, search for opera... install
[04:04] <mathfee1> revilot: okay, here's what you do
[04:04] <j2daosh> yeah or what randolph said
[04:04] <RandolphCarter> xxx: it's important you got the Ubuntu Opera package though (should be named .deb)
[04:04] <j2daosh> sgeo... that would be me :)
[04:05] <j2daosh> yeah xx... if you got the .rpm you will need alien
[04:05] <Sgeo> Oh, I thought xxx was referring to a package :/
[04:05] <mathfee1> open a terminal and type (without the quote of course) "sudo mv /etc/ndiswrapper/bcml5a /etc/ndiswrapper/bcml5
[04:05] <McJerry> whats the command to check free drive space
[04:05] <RandolphCarter> j2daosh: if he got the .rpm, best to rm and get the right package
[04:05] <xxx> it's deb file ,should i put it into a special folder first?
[04:05] <j2daosh> sgeo... lol well if he is... im alittle scared ::covers his package::
[04:05] <RandolphCarter> xxx: no need, it'll be handled automagically
[04:05] <supertanker13> can anyone help?
[04:05] <mathfee1> terminal is in Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[04:05] <RandolphCarter> xxx: in fact, in Dapper, you only need to double click on it
[04:05] <SurfnKid> supertanker13, i am not sure, so you just restarted and now it doesnt let you in?
[04:05] <nmsa> hello I have a MFP (samsung SCX4216F) that works under i386 arch; can I use it on my amd64 with ubuntu dapper installaed using amd64 ISO ? I intend to use chroot. I wonder if can be done
[04:06] <purserj> wheres the best place to ask about modifying the breezy livecd
[04:06] <jorvis_> McJerry: you can try "df -m"
[04:06] <xxx> well,i tried that either double click or sudo dpkg ,no response
[04:06] <j2daosh> rand, alien works fine too, although you are right... if there is a ubuntu version its best to get that one as is definately going to work without issue
[04:06] <jorvis_> it will show you used and free space on all devices/drives
[04:06] <RandolphCarter> xxx: no response?  it should at least give you an error message
[04:06] <McJerry> jorvis_ tx
[04:06] <wastrel> yay
[04:07] <jorvis_> McJerry: df -h is actually better
[04:07] <j2daosh> jorvis... df -k
[04:07] <xxx> it told me no opera have installed
[04:07] <mathfee1> can anyone help: i set keyboard-shortcut on gnome for <ctr><alt><shift>T to open a terminal, but nothing happens when I do that...
[04:07] <RandolphCarter> xxx: ah, I see the problem (dependencies) - I'll see if there's a way round this
[04:07] <kieranDOA> Is anyone familiar with configuring X on ubuntu PPC?
[04:07] <revilot> mathfee 1: hey that worked thx
[04:07] <j2daosh> mathfeel... set it to ctrl+t
[04:07] <supertanker13> yes
[04:07] <supertanker13> I cannot boot in or anything
[04:07] <supertanker13> Log in
[04:08] <Warbo> Is there a Wiki page which deals with mounting in general (they all seem to deal with mounting Windows partitions)? I need a Wiki reference for my guide
[04:08] <dallgood> does anyone know why when i maximize windows on a dual monitor setup, my window spans both monitors?  I'm using twinview
[04:08] <revilot> mathfee1: only thing now i have two folder in there with the same name
[04:08] <j2daosh> thats what i did... dont want to confuse the restart keys :)
[04:08] <SAM_theman> Hey people I am having a problem every time I try to launch a game or my important program of all "Blender 3d to do my work" is gives some error???
[04:08] <supertanker13> Oh, and one more thing: In recovery mode when I type startx, it pops up a box and says cannot start HAL daemon
[04:08] <wastrel> ctrl-alt-shift-t works for me
[04:08] <xxx> carter,how can i solve the dependency problem?
[04:08] <SAM_theman> Send you guys the error?
[04:08] <RandolphCarter> xxx: I'm working on it :)
[04:08] <rraajj> I know this is more of an XMMS bug than a Dapper bug, but it could also be a Dapper bug...
[04:08] <mathfee1> revilot: the thing is, if you check carefully..(by running "ls -al" in terminal) you can see everything else except /home/yourusername/
[04:08] <wastrel> i have it set to ctrl-space normally tho
[04:08] <rraajj> I can't seem to get the equalizer working. :(
[04:08] <mathfee1> is pretty much owned by root
[04:08] <mathfee1> and you are not root until you do su or sudo
[04:09] <supertanker13> what the heck is hte HAL daemon?
[04:09] <chris_> i need some help
[04:09] <mathfee1> it's for security purpose
[04:09] <xxx> thank u ,ill wait here for u ,:)
[04:09] <teckfatt> kieranDOA: hello, i just wonder why u choice to use ubuntu on ppc instead of OS X? tz
[04:09] <revilot> i see
[04:09] <mathfee1> but <ctrl>T is such a common key-combo
[04:09] <revilot> how do i delete the empty folder now though
[04:09] <j2daosh> xxx while rand is looking into that... go to the system > administration > synaptic >search for opera and see if there is a package already there
[04:09] <jorvis_> i'm going to install Vista on my windows partition, and I'm sure its going to overwrite my MBR so i can't boot to ubuntu.  What can I do to get it back?
[04:09] <mathfee1> it could easily be mistaken for something else in other program
[04:09] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/771206
[04:09] <supertanker13> can someone help or not?
[04:09] <chris_> i installed fprot and i can not figure out where the executable is to run it
[04:09] <dallgood> does anyone use twinview with multiple monitors?
[04:09] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, what
[04:09] <Warbo> Is there a page on the Ubuntu Wiki which explains how to mount partitions (not specific to windows partitions)?
[04:10] <SurfnKid> supertanker13, Hardware something List, it starts your hardware stuff i think
[04:10] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, stop asking an type
[04:10] <kieranDOA> teckfatt: i dual boot
[04:10] <xxx> j2daosh,no opera there in synaptic
[04:10] <supertanker13> about the not-being-able-to=log-in
[04:10] <SurfnKid> lol
[04:10] <mathfee1> sudo rm foldername
[04:10] <wastrel>  supertanker13 did you try to reboot?
[04:10] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, be a little specific
[04:10] <xxx> i dont think ive installed it
[04:10] <mathfee1> rm=remove of course
[04:10] <wastrel> you can't rm a folder
[04:10] <firefly> X doesn't start after upgrading to dapper...What should I do?
[04:10] <supertanker13> It says "Authentication failure" when I type in my username, it will not
[04:10] <wastrel> rmdir if it's empty
[04:10] <supertanker13> even get to the password stage
[04:10] <SurfnKid> supertanker13, CAPS?
[04:10] <Warbo> supertanker13: Hardware Abstraction Layer. It makes it easy for programs to access hardware in a universal way (not architecture/driver dependent)
[04:10] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, Have you remeber you pssw?
[04:11] <SAM_theman> *remember
[04:11] <supertanker13> It WILL NOT GET TO THE PASSWORD STAGE
[04:11] <mathfee1> revilot: the scheme is the following: sudo followed by command you need to run as root
[04:11] <RandolphCarter> xxx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15434 - you can run that to fetch and install Opera 9, beta 2
[04:11] <kbrooks> Can someone here please go directly to http://www.ubuntuguide.org?
[04:11] <SurfnKid> Warbo, hehe I knew it was something like that
[04:11] <SAM_theman> hmm..
[04:11] <chris_> can anybody help me
[04:11] <supertanker13> When I type in my username in a console, it gives me an error
[04:11] <RandolphCarter> xxx: paste those commands into a terminal ^_^
[04:11] <teckfatt> wastrel: yes u can rm a folder
[04:11] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, Are u loging into or from a server?
[04:11] <revilot> mathfee 1: only thing is  now both folders are named the same thing
[04:11] <SAM_theman> or connected to one ?
[04:11] <supertanker13> I booted into recovery mode, (yes I remembered my root psswd) and when I typed in "startx" it said the hAL deamon cannot start. No im logging in locally
[04:11] <firefly> What should I do? X doesn't start, I'm stuck with a console
[04:12] <mathfee1> revilot: what do you mean? you can't have two path that's completely the same
[04:12] <SurfnKid> whats a good Ubuntu version for a PIII 500Mhz...  WHoary?
[04:12] <Warbo> SurfnKid: It is implemented by using an advanced AI system. It's correct name is HAL9000 (it was developed by IBM who keep the sister project, SAL9000 to themselves)
[04:12] <protok0l> hello, when i'm in GDM and log in with my user/pass it freezes before loading gnome. i have the latest upgrades.
[04:12] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, Create a new account
[04:12] <xxx> carter ,im trying
[04:12] <teckfatt> wastrel: use rm -r <foldername>
[04:12] <j2daosh> gdm restart
[04:12] <SurfnKid> Warbo, wicked
[04:12] <revilot> oops
[04:12] <revilot> i screwed up
[04:12] <mathfee1> revilot: there is a different right? one is xxxx another is xxxxa
[04:12] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, if you got nothing important on the previous account
[04:12] <supertanker13> After I do that what do I do?
[04:12] <revilot> ya
[04:12] <revilot> how do i rename
[04:12] <Warbo> SurfnKid: (I hope you realise that is not true and is just a reference to 2001:A Space Odyssey)
[04:12] <mathfee1> revilot: btw rm by itself does not remove a folder if the folder is not empty
[04:12] <supertanker13> Yes see there is a slight problem with that
[04:13] <mathfee1> so it's save
[04:13] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, remove the old account that you can't log into
[04:13] <revilot> ok
[04:13] <dallgood> does anyone know how to make dual monitors work properly with twinview?  windows get placed in the center and maximizing windows makes them span both monitors... i hate this
[04:13] <mathfee1> revilot: to rename, use mv
[04:13] <kieranDOA> So theres no one familiar with configuring X on ubuntu PPC?
[04:13] <Killuminati> Does anybody know the htdocs location for apache?
[04:13] <supertanker13> revilot: remaning is actually moving. Type mv oldname newname
[04:13] <mathfee1> revilot: mv oldname newname
[04:13] <supertanker13> Can I use recovery mode to get all my files off of it?
[04:13] <revilot> ah
[04:13] <jorvis_> anyone?  how do I restore grub after windows overwrites the MBR?
[04:13] <mathfee1> revilot: add sudo in front if you need to do as root
[04:13] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,use root man..
[04:13] <revilot> with path?
[04:13] <j2daosh> rev yes
[04:13] <revilot> ok
[04:13] <mathfee1> revilot: sure, mv /etc/folder1 /etc/folder2
[04:13] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,log into root and cd /home....
[04:13] <Warbo> Are there no official documents online which explain mount in a non-windows-partition way?
[04:13] <revilot> ah ok
[04:14] <Fr0Gs> hey all
[04:14] <Killuminati> Does anybody know the htdocs location for apache?
[04:14] <Fr0Gs> wats up
[04:14] <supertanker13> Okay...I'll do that. I gotta go soon...
[04:14] <Killuminati> Fr0Gs, Hey =)
[04:14] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,are u feeling me ??
[04:14] <j2daosh> ex "mv foo.bar /directory/fu.bar
[04:14] <revilot> thx a lot fellas
[04:14] <firefly> I need to find or generate an xorg.conf file somehow...anyone got any tips?
[04:14] <jorvis_> Warbo: man mount ?
[04:14] <SurfnKid> Warbo, I was beginning to believve that
[04:14] <supertanker13> what?
[04:14] <mathfee1> revilot: np, just remember, it SHOULD be non-trivial when messing with config file
[04:14] <webdesigner> Hi
[04:14] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,are u feeling me ??(understanding me)
[04:14] <j2daosh> or ex "mv /directory/foo.bar /dir/fu.bar"
[04:14] <Warbo> jorvis_: It is not for me, it is for a Wiki page I am writing
[04:14] <teckfatt> jorvis_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub
[04:14] <Fr0Gs> i installed the ATi driver and when i type fglrxinfo it says Mesa instead of ati :S
[04:14] <supertanker13> Yes
[04:14] <Warbo> jorvis_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:14] <Killuminati> Does anybody know the htdocs location for apache?
[04:14] <jorvis_> teckfatt: thanks.
[04:15] <revilot> ok thx ill probably be back in a minute after i screw something else up
[04:15] <mathfee1> setting <control>t doesn't work either
[04:15] <firefly> Nevermind...I solved my problem
[04:15] <Warbo> jorvis_: Woops
[04:15] <firefly> thanks anyway
[04:15] <firefly> quit
[04:15] <supertanker13> Make new account, copy all my stuff with Root, remove old account
[04:15] <supertanker13> correct?
[04:15] <firefly> er
[04:15] <xxx> carter,can terminal support cut/paste funcion?
[04:15] <webdesigner> Killiminati: Yes I do
[04:15] <Killuminati> webdesigner, May I please know what it is?
[04:15] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,Yup
[04:15] <RandolphCarter> xxx: yes, you can either highlight it all in the browser, then middle click in the terminal, or do a copy/paste
[04:15] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,You are the star now
[04:15] <Fr0Gs> can anyone help me setup ati driver
[04:15] <SAM_theman> Fr0Gs, speak
[04:15] <mathfee1> FroGs: what's the problem?
[04:16] <SAM_theman> Fr0Gs, yeah
[04:16] <webdesigner> Killuminati: Var/www
[04:16] <supertanker13> k. Cya
[04:16] <Killuminati> webdesigner, Thanks =)
[04:16] <Warbo> xxx: ctrl-c, ctrl-x and ctrl-v don't do copy/cut/paste in a terminal though
[04:16] <Coldtoast> hi all
[04:16] <xxx> ok,thanku warbo
[04:16] <DynaStab> yos, what is that awesome program for mounting ftp sftp
[04:16] <webdesigner> Killuminati: Yep
[04:16] <RandolphCarter> xxx: ah, yes - it's shit+ctl+v to paste
[04:16] <Warbo> I suppose I will have to write a guide to mount as well does it?
[04:16] <DynaStab> it comes with ubuntu but i dont knwo the real name
[04:16] <Coldtoast> I'm in the process of migrating, as much as possible, from Windows to linux
[04:16] <mathfee1> does anyone here uses davfs?
[04:17] <catch23> hi, is there anyway to force version magic on a compiled module?  I could only compile the module under gcc-3.4, but of course when I try to load it, it complains that the magic needs to be gcc-4.0.  is there a way to force it to load the module, or fake the magic?
[04:17] <Coldtoast> and the machine I'm doing that with has an ICH5 sata raid controller
[04:17] <kbrooks> um
[04:17] <Warbo> mathfee1: devfs? It has been replaced in 2.6 kernel with udev
[04:17] <teckfatt> Coldtoast: u can do it
[04:17] <bluefoxicy> how annoying.
[04:17] <Coldtoast> is it a bad idea to even USE that controller?
[04:17] <Killuminati> How do I spell natilus correctly?
[04:17] <bluefoxicy> I can't log in
[04:17] <xxx> wow,carter,it's amazing
[04:17] <kbrooks> the ubuntu guide has been updated :-)
[04:17] <wastrel> shift-insert control-insert
[04:17] <bluefoxicy> but gnome-session starts gnome
[04:17] <mathfee1> warbo: no...davfs for webdav
[04:17] <RandolphCarter> catch23: that would require the kind of magic Moses had
[04:17] <RandolphCarter> xxx: :D
[04:17] <Warbo> mathfee1: OK, sorry
[04:17] <bluefoxicy> gdm claims it can't start my session.. hmm.
[04:17] <Killuminati> How do I spell natilus correctly?
[04:17] <catch23> RandolphCarter: meaning, it's impossible eh?
[04:17] <SurfnKid> nautilus
[04:17] <xxx> warbo ,shift+ctrl+v can paste in terminal
[04:17] <kbrooks> see http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:17] <ardy> I'm surprise that Xubuntu is more faster then KDE n GNOME..
[04:18] <catch23> RandolphCarter: any way to force loading a module regardless of the version info?
[04:18] <DynaStab> ardy, where have you been haha
[04:18] <RandolphCarter> catch23: mixing gcc major versions = bad
[04:18] <Warbo> xxx: I always use select/middle click :)
[04:18] <Coldtoast> teckfatt, I'm a bit worried about the fact the controller isn't hardware raid
[04:18] <navreet> man, anyone upgrade to dapper (64-bit) lately?
[04:18] <navreet> i am having a tough time
[04:18] <Coldtoast> also, if I do use it, how bad of an idea is it to use reiserfs?
[04:18] <navreet> stuck with broken ass packages
[04:18] <DynaStab> can anyone tell me the name of the 'remote system' app that comes with ubuntu for mounting ssh and ftp etc
[04:18] <navreet> [ia32-libs] 
[04:18] <tested2> Im having trouble getting ubuntu to boot after the install, it appears not to be able to mount the root files system. I have a sata drive and according to the partition tool the drive is /dev/sda1
[04:18] <webdesigner> ubotu: Who is using opitwin username?
[04:18] <ubotu> webdesigner: what are you talking about?
[04:19] <mathfee1> ardy: is it just my impression that xce is more lightweighted than kde and gnome?
[04:19] <xxx> middle?my mouse doesnt have a middle
[04:19] <RandolphCarter> xxx: you can press left+right at the same time
[04:19] <Kyral> mathfee1: its true
[04:19] <ardy> DynaStab, I just try it about 2 days ago... its awesome
[04:19] <kbrooks> DynaStab: places > connect to server
[04:19] <DynaStab> whats it called
[04:19] <DynaStab> process name
[04:19] <Killuminati> How do I move files as root?
[04:19] <catch23> RandolphCarter: sorta got no choice for this ugly wireless usb device...  not many choices available
[04:19] <kbrooks> DynaStab: i don't know, but its in nautilus
[04:19] <tested2> sudo mv
[04:19] <mathfee1> Killuminati: sudo mv
[04:19] <DynaStab> kbrooks, can you load it and do ap s aux
[04:19] <ardy> is this new or renew from previous Xubuntu ??
[04:19] <Chihork> does Ubuntu rely upon initrd to configure alsa (aside from module loading)?  I'm having some real trouble getting ALSA to work after configuring my own kernel.
[04:19] <RandolphCarter> catch23: ndiswrapper may be a good bet?
[04:19] <DynaStab> ps aux
[04:19] <kbrooks> DynaStab: i doubt a new process is started
[04:19] <Killuminati> But I want to do it in my file browser
[04:20] <DynaStab> kbrooks, i gaurantee it
[04:20] <navreet> Preparing to replace ia32-libs 1.4ubuntu4 (using .../ia32-libs_1.4ubuntu19_amd64.deb) ...
[04:20] <navreet> dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/bin/ldd' with
[04:20] <navreet>   different file `/usr/bin/ldd.amd64', not allowed
[04:20] <navreet> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_1.4ubuntu19_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[04:20] <navreet>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2...............Errors were encountered while processing:.................... /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_1.4ubuntu19_amd64.deb................E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)  ........... A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[04:20] <kbrooks> DynaStab: h/o
[04:20] <catch23> RandolphCarter: aye, that's the only other option...
[04:20] <Coldtoast> Killuminati: run the file rowser as root then
[04:20] <Coldtoast> browser
[04:20] <tested2> killuminata from terminal type sudo nautilus
[04:20] <DynaStab> ban is in order
[04:20] <Killuminati> navreet, Please use pastebin in the future.
[04:20] <Killuminati> tested2, THANKYOU! I had problems spelling nautilus =P
[04:20] <navreet> Killuminati, k, thanks
[04:20] <ardy> is Xubuntu is this new or renew from previous Xubuntu ??
[04:21] <Coldtoast> any of you using reiserfs?
[04:21] <mathfee1> ardy: what do you mean?
[04:21] <mathfee1> coldtoast: I am
[04:21] <wolly_wotsit> hey guys
[04:21] <wolly_wotsit> quick question
[04:21] <Coldtoast> ever had probs mathfee1?
[04:21] <ardy> mathfee1, is xubuntu is new ??
[04:21] <mathfee1> coldtoast: nope, i have another gentoo machine, running two years straight without problem
[04:21] <tested2> I cant get ubuntu to boot after a install, I did a erase disk install went fine now it gets stuck on mounting the root file system on /dev/sda1
[04:21] <wolly_wotsit> can i update my breezy to dapper without having to download/burn a disk?
[04:21] <MagicFab> ~seen MagicFab
[04:21] <wastrel> gentoo eh
[04:21] <kbrooks> DynaStab: ok, i diffed the 2 process lists and apart from some erm crazy changes, i have this
[04:22] <wastrel> i like me some gentoo but got tired of waiting for things to compile
[04:22] <mathfee1> ardy: it's just *buntu that uses a different desktop environment, am i not correct?
[04:22] <wastrel> if i had a faster processor
[04:22] <Coldtoast> ok. I want to use it with sata raid but the controller I'm using is ICH5 which isn't hardware RAID
[04:22] <kbrooks> DynaStab: +kbrooks   7155  7.9  4.5  34584 11624 ?        S    18:20   0:00 nautilus-connect-server
[04:22] <catch23> RandolphCarter: well looks like it still works okay if I force loading it...  i'm using this belkin wireless usb dongle, using the rt73 drivers.  works great now :P
[04:22] <mathfee1> wastrel: compiling time never was a problem for me, i just let it run in background
[04:22] <wolly_wotsit> anyone?
[04:22] <ardy> so meaning that xubuntu developers is the best... right, they invent new for ubuntu..
[04:22] <kbrooks> DynaStab: where the + means added to y
[04:22] <revilot> mathfee1: ok im retarded.  ive got files in etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/bcwml5 that i need in etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5
[04:22] <wolly_wotsit> can i update my breezy to dapper without having to download/burn a disk?
[04:22] <mathfee1> wastres: it could take many hours (try emerge -e system after gcc upgrade)
[04:23] <RandolphCarter> catch23: ack :/ good luck with that
[04:23] <wastrel> mathfee1:  i'm impatient :]   also have slow comptuer
[04:23] <kbrooks> wolly_wotsit: you can download & mount the disk and update from that
[04:23] <DynaStab> kbrooks, thanks
[04:23] <Membury> Wow, that's a lot of people on this channel.
[04:23] <Coldtoast> ok. how about captiventfs? anybody use that?
[04:23] <dallgood> does anyone know how to make dual monitors work properly with twinview and gnome?  windows get placed at the division of the two monitors and maximizing windows makes them span both monitors... i hate this
[04:23] <kbrooks> DynaStab: seems like i learn a new thing every day when i help a person
[04:23] <wolly_wotsit> kbrooks: are there any instructions on how to do this?
[04:24] <soop> coldtoast, what are you trying to do
[04:24] <kbrooks> wolly_wotsit: but you don't have to
[04:24] <DynaStab> kbrooks, im a robot
[04:24] <ardy> does anybody know what to install in the server to make it acting like school server which is to control the workstation in the school computers?
[04:24] <soop> ardy: huh?
[04:24] <kbrooks> DynaStab: i dont believe you
[04:24] <mathfee1> revilot: sudo mv /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/bcwml5/* /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/
[04:24] <soop> you mean remote desktop/vnc?
[04:24] <noiesmo> ardy, samba
[04:24] <RandolphCarter> ardy: you'd be best with a desktop install for that
[04:24] <kbrooks> ardy: try edubuntu
[04:24] <mathfee1> wolly_wotsit: sudo apt-get distupgrade
[04:24] <wolly_wotsit> kbrooks: you've lost me
[04:24] <wolly_wotsit> oh
[04:24] <DynaStab> wii
[04:24] <kbrooks> wolly_wotsit: therer are 2 choices
[04:24] <AreEmmKa2> Hi everyone--
[04:24] <planetcall> when system boots up it stops and says my superblock is corrupted and i need to run this utility with -rebuild-sb.   Which utility is it talking about ?
[04:24] <opitwin2> ubotu: the server say that my regular user name, opitwin, is in use and it isn't
[04:24] <SurfnKid> whats the difference between Kubuntu and Hoary
[04:25] <ubotu> opitwin2: what are you talking about?
[04:25] <torrentwoes> where can i find a troubleshooter for xgl?
[04:25] <Killuminati> How do I chmod?
[04:25] <ardy> kbrooks, edubuntu ?? is that some kind of server or what ??
[04:25] <mathfee1> or something like that...
[04:25] <revilot> mathfee1: thank you sir
[04:25] <kbrooks> ardy: #edubuntu
[04:25] <Killuminati> ardy, It's Ubuntu for students
[04:25] <wastrel> Killuminati:  carefully
[04:25] <Killuminati> wastrel, =P but how?
[04:25] <eugman> Is kino supposed to be able to imort mpg's?
[04:25] <wastrel> Killuminati:  you can change perms with nautilus
[04:25] <opitwin2> ubotu: kick opitwin
[04:25] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, opitwin2
[04:25] <Membury> Does anybody know about ODBC issues using Dapper and OpenOffice.org 2 on AMD64?
[04:25] <Killuminati> wastrel, Thanks =)
[04:25] <Coldtoast> soop: well, I have some stuff on an NTFS partition I need access to from Linux. I don't particularly want to use FAT32 so I was thinking of using  captive ntfs
[04:25] <planetcall> it says difference between bootsector and its backup
[04:25] <noiesmo> ardy, are you looking for domain conroller ie samba or desktop systems
[04:25] <planetcall> help !
[04:26] <opitwin2> ubotu: Reset username opitwin please!
[04:26] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, opitwin2
[04:26] <Coldtoast> so the data is accessible from my other machine no matter what OS this one's using
[04:26] <AreEmmKa2> I followed these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-af2466f44cedc963180b11fb2cc9400c67f45ac9 and Rhythmbox still won't recognize m4a files... is there anything else I need to do?
[04:26] <opitwin2> ubotu: I hat you bot
[04:26] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, opitwin2
[04:26] <ardy> Killuminati, what I mean is I'm a administrator in ICT department is which responsible to monitor the student working on their pc
[04:26] <Hobbsee> opitwin2: what are you trying to do?
[04:26] <kbrooks> opitwin2: he's a bot
[04:26] <kbrooks> opitwin2: a bot is a bot is a bot.
[04:26] <wolly_wotsit> kbrooks: I get E: Invalid operation distupgrade
[04:26] <Coldtoast> sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:27] <ardy> noiesmo, yes that right, I want to set this school server as domain controller. so that every workstation is pointing their DNS  to the ubuntu server
[04:27] <firefly> When I run startx it gives me a gray screen and a cursor but nothing else not even a term window
[04:27] <Killuminati> ardy, So install Network monitoring services
[04:27] <firefly> Anyone know what I should do?
[04:27] <opitwin2> kbrooks: my regular username(opitwin) isn't in use but the server says it is in use and I want to use my username
[04:27] <mathfee1> wolly_wotsit: i think it's dist-upgrade with a dash
[04:27] <ardy> Killuminati, so what do I have to type in command to get that monitoring service?
[04:27] <xxx> carter,i did sth wrong
[04:27] <kbrooks> opitwin2: whois it
[04:27] <firefly> I do get an error from X saying someting about GLcore
[04:28] <opitwin2> kbrooks: what?
[04:28] <toomanyKwestions> anyone here use ubuntu on an ibook?
[04:28] <gyro_54> Lost the sound from my sound port on my Audigy2 card but the sound is still there from the headphone port? Any ideas??
[04:28] <wolly_wotsit> mathfeel: great, so what do i do when it's finished upgrading?
[04:28] <noiesmo> ardy, http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-pdc.html
[04:28] <AreEmmKa2> toomany: tryin to ;)
[04:29] <Coldtoast> gyro_54: sudo alsa-ctrl?
[04:29] <torrentwoes> my window borders disappear when i try to run xgl.. how can i fix this?
[04:29] <Coldtoast> or is it alsactrl?
[04:29] <firefly> Anyone know what I should do about this?
[04:29] <toomanyKwestions> yeah, i'm having wireless troubles
[04:29] <Killuminati> ardy, Novell comes with a nice monitoring program
[04:29] <opitwin2> !install
[04:29] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[04:29] <wolly_wotsit> linux sucks for wirelss
[04:29] <toomanyKwestions> AreEmmKa2: what's your hardware?
[04:29] <navreet> dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/bin/ldd' with different file `/usr/bin/ldd.amd64', not allowed
[04:29] <AreEmmKa2> iBook g4  spring 2005
[04:29] <navreet> how can I fix that?
[04:29] <jorvis_> wolly_wotsit: mine works great.
[04:30] <ardy> noiesmo, ok I try that later thanks...
[04:30] <toomanyKwestions> cool
[04:30] <AreEmmKa2> this helped: http://www.fisica.unipa.it/~lavaget/ubuntuae/
[04:30] <toomanyKwestions> i'm back with a g3500
[04:30] <noiesmo> wolly_wotsit, dont blame linux blame the wifi manucatures for not producing drivers like they do for M$
[04:30] <ardy> Killuminati, so do I have to type sudo apt-get ??
[04:30] <toomanyKwestions> G3-500, that si
[04:30] <wolly_wotsit> jorvis: yes so does mine, but it was a bitch to get working
[04:30] <opitwin2> AreEmmKa2: I helped you last night
[04:30] <AreEmmKa2> ah, then you don't need that
[04:30] <wolly_wotsit> I'm not blaming anyone
[04:30] <wolly_wotsit> i'm merely stating
[04:31] <AreEmmKa2> opitwin2: yeah, thanks-- I still haven't gotten the trackpad working nicely, but I borrowed a mouse from work
[04:31] <Killuminati> ardy, You'll have to buy it but nothing comes near it in functionality.
[04:31] <firefly> I get a grey screen with a cursor and when I try to run apps from another console it says it can't open the display
[04:31] <toomanyKwestions> AreEmmKa2: yep, i guess not
[04:31] <opitwin2> AreEmmKa2: is it working?
[04:31] <ardy> Killuminati, oohh.... no open source?
[04:31] <xxx> carter ,r u there
[04:31] <firefly> So I'm guessing X is started but no window manager...how can I start a window manager?
[04:31] <firefly> Preferably fvwm
[04:31] <AreEmmKa2> yeah, the mouse works fine, but I still want to solve the trackpad thing
[04:31] <Killuminati> ardy, Unfortunately no =(
[04:32] <ardy> ooo
[04:32] <opitwin2> AreEmmKa2: That might be in the computer's config somewhere
[04:32] <Membury> How does one file a bug report?
[04:32] <AreEmmKa2> right.
[04:32] <AreEmmKa2> my main concern at the moment is getting AAC files to play though ;)
[04:32] <bdmp> I am trying to to install languages and i am getting a "could not resolve jp.archive.ubuntu.com" error. I just did a distro upgrade so I am sure that the repo is good. How do I fix this?
[04:33] <ardy> btw does anybody know how to setup printer hp deskjet 1280, which is in sharing... I dont know how to configure it..
[04:33] <wolly_wotsit> so once i have run dist-upgrade, what do i need to do to get dapper working?
[04:33] <firefly> Nobody knows how to start a window manager? :(
[04:33] <opitwin2> ardy: yes, I do
[04:33] <gyro_54> Coldtoast: All controls are on and working
[04:33] <AreEmmKa2> I followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-af2466f44cedc963180b11fb2cc9400c67f45ac9
[04:33] <etement> am I the only one with this problem, or can you only run like 1 sound instance at a time?
[04:33] <ardy> opitwin2,  help me with this please
[04:33] <AreEmmKa2> and I can decode them at the command-line with faad
[04:33] <etement> eg no flash + music player
[04:33] <Ophiocus> what is a .toast file format? what do i open it with?
[04:33] <etement> I'm not sure... but never questioned it until now
[04:33] <AreEmmKa2> but Rythmbox won't recognize them as audio files
[04:34] <opitwin2> ardy: go to system - Administration - Printing
[04:34] <toomanyKwestions> does anyone have a really on-again off-again wireless connection with a home router?
[04:34] <DarkMageZ> etement, no you are not, there are instructions on how to fix this issue @ restrictedformats in the wiki
[04:34] <ardy> opitwin2, currently I'm using XUBUNTU
[04:34] <firefly> Ophiocus: a toaster?
[04:34] <etement> I've looked before I came to IRC. Do you know exactly where?
[04:34] <DarkMageZ> !tell etement about restrictedformats
[04:34] <wolly_wotsit> so once i have run dist-upgrade, what do i need to do to get dapper working?
[04:34] <opitwin2> ardy: Well can you open up the printing stuff
[04:34] <Ophiocus> firefly: as in?
[04:35] <etement> thanks a lot
[04:35] <etement> looking into it
[04:35] <gyro_54> Coldtoast: alsa-ctrl command not found
[04:35] <pvd2006> what is the graphic version of the device manager in xubuntu?
[04:35] <ardy> opitwin2,  no it says CUP
[04:35] <firefly> Can anyone help me? :(
[04:35] <opitwin2> ardy: just a minute
[04:35] <DarkMageZ> firefly, not until we know what your problem is, go ahead and ask, and hopefully someone will know
[04:36] <uXp> is someone able to help me for 5 minutes?
[04:36] <SurfnKid> what up
[04:36] <firefly> DarkMageZ: X starts with a grey screen and a cursor but nothing else...I can't start a window manager
[04:36] <uXp> its about installing a theme my buddy made
[04:36] <uXp> but ive tried unpacking and drag and drop nothing works
[04:36] <paul_> Anyone know if there is a way to change the server port settings in evolution? I was curious because I did a little research and found some old articles where you could change smtp server port settings by playing a colon behind the server address then place the new port after the colon. I have had no success in changing my nntp server port settings that way.
[04:36] <ardy> opitwin2, I got printing system settings under settings and when I click on it it says CUP
[04:36] <DarkMageZ> firefly, have you been playing around with the configuration? or is this after the installation
[04:37] <kbrooks> who are you, firefly
[04:37] <etement> DarkMageZ, I have all of that installed. It's a sound problem, like I can't do VoIP + Game sounds, or Flash music + Music player, at the same time
[04:37] <torrentwoes> XGL anyone?
[04:37] <firefly> DarkMageZ: After running apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper
[04:37] <uXp> Surf?
[04:37] <firefly> kbrooks: who am i? I'm nobody
[04:37] <Rede_> if anyone is still around who gave me advice about compiling from source earlier, i just got it working, thanks! i just had to use aptitude instead of apt-get to get the files packages i needed to install properly
[04:38] <DarkMageZ> firefly, there we go, now someone might have some idea on what your issue might be :)
[04:38] <etement> is that just me. Can you guys have sound in flash while listening to music, or like voip + music? it'll only let me do one at a time.
[04:38] <opitwin2> ardy: Are you using Dapper
[04:38] <ardy> opitwin2, yes I do
[04:38] <pppoe_dude> etement, you need to change your output device in one of them
[04:38] <pppoe_dude> etement, make them match up
[04:38] <pppoe_dude> etement, however, VOIP and music is problematic
[04:39] <etement> oh?
[04:39] <opitwin2> ardy: Do you think you could switch to the gnome desktop real quick?
[04:39] <adamant1988> does anyone know any good games to play that I can download for Ubuntu? It doesn't matter if they're in the repos
[04:39] <pppoe_dude> etement, because of sound input, etc.
[04:39] <ardy> opitwin2, I have not install gnome :(
[04:39] <etement> so Voip, like Teamspeak + gaming quake, won't give me sound on both. :(
[04:39] <DarkMageZ> etement, so u have installed the alsa-oss package? then altered /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to have FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" in it?
[04:39] <opitwin2> adamant1988: go to packages.ubuntu.com
[04:39] <etement> yeah
[04:40] <opitwin2> ardy: open up a terminal
[04:40] <adamant1988> ok :)
[04:40] <ardy> opitwin2, ok then
[04:40] <DarkMageZ> etement, what media player are u using?
[04:40] <etement> Rhythmbox
[04:40] <opitwin2> ardy: type in  sudo apt-get install gnome
[04:40] <luke> can someone help me with firefox under am64 please?
[04:40] <DarkMageZ> etement, have u restarted firefox after making the changes :)
[04:40] <uXp> SurfnKid: Hello?
[04:40] <firefly> Nobody answers my questions in here :(
[04:40] <ardy> opitwin2, it says 318MB to download
[04:40] <gyro_54> Coldtoast: Any ideas?
[04:40] <luke> I had  gone through the wiki article that set it up under 32bit so I could use flash, but i just update - upgraded my system and now it seems to have disappeared
[04:40] <etement> indeed I have.
[04:41] <pppoe_dude> firefly, what was the question?
[04:41] <opitwin2> ardy: Is your connection fast enough?
[04:41] <pppoe_dude> firefly, re X?
[04:41] <ardy> opitwin2, about 614K
[04:41] <firefly> pppoe_dude: I just did a dist-upgrade and X starts with a grey screen and a cursor but no window manager starts
[04:41] <opitwin2> ardy: How fast is download speed?
[04:42] <ardy> opitwin2,  about 24k
[04:42] <kayde> i neeed help with intalling the driver from a cd
[04:42] <pppoe_dude> firefly, are you using gnome?
[04:42] <DarkMageZ> etement, that's very odd...
[04:42] <firefly> pppoe_dude: fvwm
[04:42] <etement> I know this is not windows, but what would be the problem with no Voip + gamage (sound)? would it be bad written drivers?
[04:42] <ardy> opitwin2,  now 48Kb
[04:42] <opitwin2> It will take a couple of hours probably
[04:42] <pppoe_dude> firefly, are you on another computer now?
[04:43] <firefly> pppoe_dude: No I'm in a virtual console using irssi
[04:43] <opitwin2> ardy: it will probably take a couple of hours
[04:43] <pppoe_dude> firefly, ok. the way to do it for now is to type (from a virtual console) "xterm --display :0"
[04:43] <ardy> opitwin2, yeah
[04:43] <pppoe_dude> then go to the display
[04:43] <etement> I wouldn't think it would be a problem to do something like voip + game (sound in game), however it just hit me a few hours ago and I can't seem to find the answer, other than guess that it's bad drivers
[04:44] <pppoe_dude> firefly, and type fvwm-session
[04:44] <tareque99> how do i test if php4 is working or not?
[04:44] <detectiveinspekt> I have shared a nfs folder and set the hostname I want to view the files from? But I can't see the share no the other computer
[04:44] <firefly> pppoe_dude: It says it can't open because DISPLAY is not set
[04:44] <opitwin2> After you have installed gnome go to  System - Administration - Printing  and Double Click "New Printer" and set it up, the driver is already there
[04:44] <pppoe_dude> firefly, oops, xterm -display :0
[04:44] <ardy> things that worry me with this Xubuntu, its not easy to use it.. right?
[04:44] <SurfnKid> do you guys think Dapper is too heavy for a Pentium III 500Mhz 128MB RAM?
[04:44] <thenerdsangle> hi...i'm trying to more or less use an ubuntu box as a wifi AP. how can i set that up? i tried to find stuff online, but i must just suck at googling...
[04:45] <spikeb> SurfnKid: no.
[04:45] <SurfnKid> spikeb, youre joking :| cool
[04:45] <spikeb> SurfnKid: if it's too slow for you, try xubuntu instead.
[04:45] <opitwin2> ardy: After you have installed gnome go to  System - Administration - Printing  and Double Click "New Printer" and set it up, the driver is already there
[04:45] <pppoe_dude> firefly, anything?
[04:45] <SurfnKid> spikeb, gonna install it now
[04:45] <detectiveinspekt> SurfnKid, I have ubuntu install with the same specs, its pretty good
[04:45] <SurfnKid> detectiveinspekt, whoa
[04:45] <SurfnKid> awesome guys
[04:45] <firefly> pppoe_dude: One sec
[04:45] <ardy> opitwin2, ooo driver for hp deskjet 1280 is already there... wow that easy man..
[04:46] <SurfnKid> Its a VAIO Ill have to check it out
[04:46] <ardy> Xubuntu - I cant go into network places.. I dont know where to click
[04:46] <spikeb> detectiveinspekt: do you run the whole gnome desktop and all that?
[04:46] <firefly> pppoe_dude: I got the xterm...but fvwm-session doesn't exist
[04:46] <SurfnKid> whats the diff betwen Xubuntu and Hoary
[04:46] <detectiveinspekt> yes
[04:46] <uXp> anyone can help step by step installign a certain theme?
[04:46] <opitwin2> ardy: to uninstall the gnome desktop environment when you are done, open up a terminal and type in  sudo apt-get uninstall gnome  - if you want too.
[04:46] <spikeb> xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome
[04:46] <neoxan> with xfce beta
[04:46] <neoxan> :(
[04:46] <pppoe_dude> firefly, i don't have fvwm, but try pressing fvwm[tab]  and tell me which programs you see
[04:46] <neoxan> it got still some problems
[04:46] <uXp> anyone can help step by step installign a certain theme?
[04:47] <neoxan> and xfburn alpha :o)
[04:47] <neoxan> im wondering why its in xubuntu
[04:47] <ardy> opitwin2, I didnt realise that, but my printer is in another computer that being share.. is that easy to configure??
[04:47] <neoxan> as allpha version
[04:47] <gyro_54> Lost the sound from my sound port on my Audigy2 card but the sound is still there from the headphone port? Any ideas?? tried sudo alsa-ctrl but command not found?
[04:47] <opitwin2> ardy: yes, very easy
[04:47] <buzzed> any suggested games?
[04:47] <pppoe_dude> firefly, might wanna try just 'fvwm'
[04:47] <thenerdsangle> i'm trying to more or less use an ubuntu box as a wifi AP. how can i set that up?
[04:47] <ardy> opitwin2, ok then, I install gnome then unistall it after done
[04:47] <detectiveinspekt> One problem though is searching for files, its very slow, must be just a linear search
[04:47] <specialbuddy> www.google.com
[04:48] <firefly> pppoe_dude: A lot....fvwm, fvwm2, fvwm-config, fvwm-root....some more
[04:48] <ardy> opitwin2, thanks man
[04:48] <SurfnKid> spikeb, xfce is lighter than gnome or something
[04:48] <pppoe_dude> firefly, try fvwm2-session
[04:48] <specialbuddy> whats a good program for detecting wireless signal
[04:48] <pppoe_dude> firefly, or just fvwm / fvwm2
[04:48] <eugman> Anyone know if there is anything I can do so I can edit a mpg file?
[04:48] <spikeb> SurfnKid: very much so
[04:48] <spikeb> SurfnKid: and a LOT faster
[04:48] <ardy> does anybody know how to go to network places in xubuntu ???
[04:48] <firefly> pppoe_dude: No fvwm2-session, just fvwm2
[04:48] <pppoe_dude> firefly, try that
[04:48] <detectiveinspekt> Can anyone explain why I can't see a nfs share on my other computer?
[04:48] <specialbuddy> whats a good wifi program
[04:48] <specialbuddy> ?
[04:48] <opitwin2> ardy: yep, glad to help
[04:49] <firefly> pppoe_dude: It says another WM is running and to try -replace
[04:49] <firefly> pppoe_dude: when i try fvwm -replace X dies
[04:49] <SurfnKid> spikeb, ill try Dapper and if it bogs ill go with xubuntu
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> firefly, do you have any wm's running?
[04:49] <ardy> does anybody know how to go to network places in xubuntu ???
[04:49] <spikeb> not offhand..
[04:50] <SurfnKid> specialbuddy, not WIFi-Radar
[04:50] <firefly> pppoe_dude: Not that I can see...It just looks like X with a white arrow cursor and a grey background...nothing else
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> firefly, try (from virtual terminal) 'sudo killall X & sudo killall gdm'
[04:50] <specialbuddy> yeah
[04:50] <eugman> Specialbuddy, I think network manager might be depending on what you need.
[04:50] <specialbuddy> that one does suck Surf
[04:50] <specialbuddy> I'm going to get Kwififinder I think
[04:50] <specialbuddy> I just got an antenna
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> firefly, then from virtual terminal try "X :0 & xterm -display :0 & fvwm2"
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> firefly, have you tried doing just a 'startx'?
[04:51] <firefly> pppoe_dude: No processes killed
[04:51] <thenerdsangle> can i get some help forwarding a wired connection through wifi?
[04:51] <firefly> pppoe_dude: Doing startx is how I got X in the first place, otherwise there is just console
[04:51] <pppoe_dude> firefly, try "X :0 & xterm -display :0 & fvwm2"
[04:51] <erickmgj> alguien que hable espaol
[04:51] <SurfnKid> specialbuddy, kiwkfinder in linux?
[04:51] <pppoe_dude> oops
[04:51] <spikeb> !es
[04:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:52] <pppoe_dude> firefly, skip the &fvwm part, put that in xterm
[04:52] <specialbuddy> yeah, SurfnKid
[04:52] <pppoe_dude> firefly, pretty much same as before, but with a fresh X
[04:52] <bdmp_> wolly_wotsit: did you get that sorted? the upgrade?
[04:52] <SurfnKid> cool
[04:52] <specialbuddy> are you a websurfer or a wave surfer?
[04:52] <kieranDOA> Is anyone familiar with configuring X on ubuntu PPC?
[04:52] <firefly> pppoe_dude: Worked! :-D
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> firefly, good
[04:53] <ardy> what is the different for xubuntu and edubuntu? is edubuntu for student or for teacher or for people for the 1st time using ubuntu ???
[04:53] <spikeb> kieranDOA: should be simple - you'll either have ati or nvidia for video
[04:53] <spikeb> ardy: i think it's for students
[04:53] <firefly> pppoe_dude: Will I have to do all that every time I boot?
[04:53] <spikeb> ardy: and kids
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> firefly, now mess with /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:53] <ardy> spikeb, so I'm not student, then I dont have to use it
[04:53] <ardy> heheh
[04:53] <erickmgj> no puedo entrar al canal #ubuntu
[04:53] <SurfnKid> spikeb, so Dapper on a 500 should run ok, ill ggive it a shot
[04:53] <kieranDOA> spikeb: Yes, i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it errors "no screens detected" and i have to restore my x conf
[04:54] <spikeb> hmm
[04:54] <spikeb> kieranDOA: that's odd
[04:54] <markgrif> Can I install Ubuntu on my mac mini(ppc) without losing my os x and files?
[04:54] <kieranDOA> Its reeally quite annoying, im stuck on 1024*768, and window re-drawing is a bit laggy
[04:54] <ardy> where to change? to bootup in text mode?
[04:54] <gyro_54> which file controls sound output
[04:54] <spikeb> kieranDOA: you could look up the exact info for your machine (if it has a built in display) online
[04:54] <specialbuddy> where can I find out my bandwith?
[04:54] <kieranDOA> markgrif: yes.
[04:54] <markgrif> I am liking it on this PC laptop.
[04:54] <thenerdsangle> specialbuddy: i've always been a fan of http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest
[04:55] <markgrif> Good. I already burned the Cd.
[04:55] <specialbuddy> that's where I'm at right now
[04:55] <kieranDOA> markgrif: You need to add a bootstrap partition with mac-fdisk then install, and you should be fine (provided you have a seperate partition to install ubuntu)
[04:55] <specialbuddy> thanks though
[04:55] <SurfnKid> I find DVD/RW are the best so i dont waste DVDs =D
[04:55] <firefly> pppoe_dude: Well, thanks. I've got it from here
[04:55] <markgrif> No, only one partition. :-(
[04:55] <firefly> pppoe_dude: I appreciate it a lot
[04:55] <specialbuddy> firefox has one again
[04:55] <thenerdsangle> can anyone help me with forwarding wired connections through wifi?
[04:56] <kieranDOA> Markgrif: you could try resizing it, but... youd be pretty screwed if it messed up
[04:56] <DBO> thenerdsangle, firestarter
[04:56] <pppoe_dude> firefly, np
[04:56] <spikeb> kieranDOA: what machine are you having problems on?
[04:56] <thenerdsangle> DBO: looks interesting. i'll check it out
[04:57] <kieranDOA> spikeb: its an eMac
[04:57] <spikeb> ooh
[04:57] <kieranDOA> ATI gfx, 9200 i believe
[04:57] <spikeb> kieranDOA: look up the exact specs online, then you can enter it by hand into xorg.conf
[04:57] <kieranDOA> spikeb: ive fed all of the display info into X
[04:57] <spikeb> kieranDOA: and it's still being retarded?
[04:57] <kieranDOA> spikeb: Yep.
[04:57] <buzzed> hmm doomlegacy... sdl vs x11?
[04:57] <xxx> can anyone tell me where the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15434 com from? how can i get there if no this address?
[04:58] <specialbuddy> just tested network after using an antenna
[04:58] <specialbuddy> 2.78 mbps
[04:58] <bdmp_> !network install
[04:58] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bdmp_
[04:58] <specialbuddy> 356 KB/sec
[04:58] <specialbuddy> was 14 KB/sec before
[04:58] <specialbuddy> so I'd say that worked out good
[04:58] <kieranDOA> spikeb: The config i have now is ok, apart from the lack of any resolution other than 1024*768
[04:58] <bdmp_> Anyone know a faq for installing dapper over a network?
[04:58] <bdmp_> I got no cdrom
[04:59] <spikeb> kieranDOA: emacs max out at 1024x768 dont they?
[04:59] <kieranDOA> the g4's? no.
[04:59] <kieranDOA> 1280*1024 in OS X
[04:59] <xxx> ubotu,i tried www.ubuntu.com, seems from it ,but ,i cant find the specific place
[04:59] <ubotu> xxx: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:59] <kieranDOA> Hmm, hold on a sec.
[04:59] <kieranDOA> I have x installed in os x
[04:59] <five_linux> hrmrmr... updates broke my X .. :-(
[04:59] <kieranDOA> i wonder if i copied my config across
[05:00] <five_linux> only 640x480 now
[05:00] <xxx> ubotu ,sorry for my poor english,
[05:00] <dr_willis> !bot
[05:00] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[05:00] <DBO> xxx, ubotu is a bot...
[05:00] <bdmp_> xxx: yeah
[05:00] <bdmp_> same thing happened to me
[05:01] <xxx> i just wanna know how can i get this webpage: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15434
[05:01] <DBO> so lifelike isnt he bdmp_?  we are hooking him up to skynet next week
[05:01] <bdmp_> what do you mean? click on it
[05:01] <bdmp_> yeah
[05:01] <kieranDOA> xxx: that webpage works fine.
[05:01] <sugarhigh4242> is there a way to take a screenshot of Xgl?
[05:01] <DBO> sugarhigh4242, the same way you take a screenshot as before
[05:01] <bdmp_> xxx, what irc client are you using?
[05:02] <FunnyLookinHat> bdmp_, he's on gaim
[05:02] <bdmp_> oh,
[05:02] <sugarhigh4242> DBO, i can't do it fast enough to get the 3d cube
[05:02] <kieranDOA> Just click it, failing that paste it into browser :-)
[05:02] <jobezone> hello guys,
[05:02] <bdmp_> let me guess he is clicking on the screen and it moves
[05:02] <jobezone> .
[05:02] <DBO> sugarhigh4242, use gnome-screenshot --delay 5
[05:02] <sugarhigh4242> thanks
[05:03] <xxx> im using gaim ,i know i can click on it ,i mean ,if i dont have this address,how can i get there?
[05:03] <kieranDOA> xxx: bookmark it? lol, save it to a file?
[05:03] <bdmp_> Oh, you want to find the paste bin?
[05:03] <jobezone> Anyone had a problem with an optical usb mouse in dapper? Just curious, as tomorrow I'm going to comment to an existing, but uncorfimed, bug report very simillar to my problem.
[05:04] <bdmp_> jobezone: mine is ok
[05:04] <Cornellius> Helllo
[05:04] <bdmp_> jobezone: oh wait, its not usb
[05:04] <xxx> yea ,i want find paste in
[05:04] <gyro_54> Lost the sound from my sound port on my Audigy2 card but the sound is still there from the headphone port? Any ideas??
[05:04] <spikeb> yes, plug the speakers into the headphone port
[05:04] <spikeb> hehe
[05:04] <kieranDOA> lol
[05:04] <Cornellius> Lets say I'm running the Unbuntu and Kunbuntu (Gnome & KDE) and I want to upgrade them to their last version, what should I do ?
[05:04] <bdmp_> !paste
[05:04] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:05] <xxx> bdmp,i want to find paste bin
[05:05] <bdmp_> xxx: see you can put ! and a word and the bot will tell you useful information
[05:05] <Cornellius> *Let's
[05:05] <gyro_54> spikeb: Thanks
[05:05] <kieranDOA> spikeb: You think if i copied my X config from os x to ubuntu itd work?
[05:05] <bdmp_> xxx: right there ubotu said it
[05:05] <dr_willis> apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade  :P updates the system
[05:05] <spikeb> gyro_54: i know that's not a long term solution, but it will help until you get it figured out
[05:05] <bdmp_> !paste
[05:05] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:05] <spikeb> kieranDOA: i never tried that myself
[05:06] <bdmp_> xxx: do you follow?
[05:06] <spikeb> kieranDOA: back up your working config and try it
[05:06] <kieranDOA> Ahh well, worth a try
[05:06] <xxx> !paste
[05:06] <uXp> Hello, what is Nautilus?
[05:06] <kieranDOA> spikeb: already done that, from thr countless attemps at dpkg-reconfigure
[05:06] <bdmp_> it is a file viewer
[05:06] <flodine> anyone on 64 bit running smooth
[05:06] <bdmp_> like explorer for gnome
[05:06] <spikeb> kieranDOA: haha
[05:06] <xxx> bdmp,no ,i dont quite follow u
[05:07] <gyro_54> spikeb: It was working fine and suddenly stopped. I want to upgrade to dapper but want to fix a few problems before I do
[05:07] <five_linux> anyone else having probs with nvidia drivers and only getting 640x480 with the recent updates?
[05:07] <spikeb> gyro_54: you might want to upgrade first, actually
[05:07] <kieranDOA> Now its just finding where os x puts the xorg.conf, cause its not in /etc/X11
[05:07] <kieranDOA> Can i mount hfs+ drives in ubuntu?
[05:07] <SurfnKid> whoa
[05:07] <spikeb> kieranDOA: osx uses xfree 4.4, not xorg
[05:07] <Cornellius> Let's say I'm running the Unbuntu and Kunbuntu (Gnome & KDE) and I want to upgrade them to their last versions, what should I do ? I am running K/Ubuntu 6.06
[05:07] <SurfnKid> I have Gentoo on my laptop I didnt know
[05:07] <gyro_54> Spikeb: OK
[05:07] <bdmp_> xxx: ubotu is a bot. If you type "!paste" it tells you where the pastebin is. We did it 3 times.
[05:08] <kieranDOA> spikeb: the config file should still work though shouldnt it?>
[05:08] <spikeb> kieranDOA: i think so
[05:08] <kieranDOA> ok, do you know if i can mount hfs+ partitions from ubuntu, just to save me trying if you cant lol
[05:08] <xxx> dbmp,u mean ,i type !paste here,and i'll get the information?
[05:08] <sharky> how do i find which processes are using my audio device?
[05:09] <bdmp_> xxx yes
[05:09] <spikeb> kieranDOA: yes you can mount it read only very easily
[05:09] <xxx> !paste
[05:09] <bdmp_> xxx, watch
[05:09] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:09] <bdmp_> see
[05:09] <bdmp_> ubotu said it
[05:09] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bdmp_
[05:09] <bdmp_> it is a bot
[05:09] <xxx> lol ,i got it
[05:09] <bdmp_> xxx, watch this
[05:09] <xxx> i saw it
[05:09] <dr_willis> !open the pod bay doors hal.
[05:09] <ubotu> dr_willis: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:09] <eugman> Anyone know how I can convert a mpg into a more editable format?
[05:09] <bdmp_> !sources
[05:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[05:09] <xxx> thanku
[05:09] <apoc0106> can someone help me with properly installing the OSS sound driver..... i know there is a problem because of gcc?
[05:10] <xxx> so ,bot is a machine?
[05:10] <dr_willis> eugman,  ffmpeg or transcode would be what to google for i think
[05:10] <Cornellius> apoc0106: RUnning Ubuntu ?
[05:10] <dr_willis> roBOT
[05:10] <bdmp_> xxx, yes a "robot"
[05:10] <apoc0106> kubuntu
[05:10] <hrothbeort> kieranDOA: did you say you were looking for the xinitrc on os x?
[05:10] <apoc0106> but i would assume installing it would be hte same for both systems
[05:10] <xxx> oh, i got it
[05:10] <xxx> robot
[05:10] <xxx> lol
[05:10] <[arcane] > apoc0106, uh what do you mean installing OSS
[05:10] <dr_willis> not a RoBoat. :P
[05:10] <Cornellius> apoc0106: Did you download the ''build-essential'' package with Adapt ?
[05:10] <bdmp_> xxx, where are you at with using kubuntu? Did you install?
[05:11] <[arcane] > apoc0106, alsa is better than OSS
[05:11] <apoc0106> [arcane] , my sound card isnt alsa comptable
[05:11] <kieranDOA> hrothbeort: yes.
[05:11] <apoc0106> unless you can show me how to enable it
[05:11] <[arcane] > apoc0106, and its OSS compatible ??
[05:11] <[arcane] > apoc0106, what is the card ??
[05:11] <apoc0106> Cornellius, no i havent tried
[05:11] <xxx> bdmp,im in china ,using ubuntu
[05:11] <Cornellius> apoc0106: This package will download most of the tools needed to compile all sort of things. It's a must-have.
[05:11] <apoc0106> [arcane] , its one of those cards that has the modem and sound card together
[05:11] <[arcane] > OSS isnt even developed in linux no more
[05:12] <bdmp_> xxx: Did you set up your sources?
[05:12] <apoc0106> piece of crap really
[05:12] <xxx> so ,forget my poor english
[05:12] <SurfnKid> I was beginning to get sad and sick of the same old story, the same old screen
[05:12] <[arcane] > apoc0106, AC97??
[05:12] <bdmp_> !chinese
[05:12] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bdmp_
[05:12] <apoc0106> [arcane] , i think so yes
[05:12] <hrothbeort> kienDOA: The default one is under /private/etc/X11. However the system will create one for you at ~/.xinitrc once you launch X11.app IIRC.
[05:12] <bdmp_> !japanese
[05:12] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bdmp_
[05:12] <[arcane] > apoc0106, well that is alsa compatible
[05:12] <xxx> set up? ive fill in the source.list
[05:12] <spikeb> bdmp_: it's !jp and !cn
[05:12] <apoc0106> [arcane] , ok well it doesnt work
[05:12] <[arcane] > apoc0106, have you tried alsaconf
[05:12] <bdmp_> xxx, I am in Japan
[05:12] <Cornellius> Let's say I'm running the Unbuntu and Kunbuntu (Gnome & KDE) and I want to upgrade them to their last versions, what's the best way to do it under K/Ubuntu ?
[05:13] <xxx> bdmp,japanese?
[05:13] <apoc0106> [arcane] , no i am new to this
[05:13] <kieranDOA> hrothbeort: Thank you, i can use the config file for X in ubuntu right?
[05:13] <bdmp_> Cornellius: watch
[05:13] <[arcane] > apoc0106, well try that as root before you think it dont work
[05:13] <bdmp_> !upgrade
[05:13] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[05:13] <SurfnKid> bdmp_, whoa cool Jap!
[05:13] <[arcane] > apoc0106, sudo alsaconf
[05:13] <Cornellius> bdmp_: I know about this and that's not what I meant.
[05:13] <hrothbeort> kieranDOA: Do you mean use the OS X .xinitrc in an Ubuntu installation?
[05:13] <Cornellius> bdmp_: I'm already running 6.06
[05:14] <bdmp_> xxx I can read it and speak it but I am white
[05:14] <apoc0106> [arcane] , do i need to download the package from adept
[05:14] <kieranDOA> hrothbeort: i want to use the xfree config from os x in ubuntu, as im having problems with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <bdmp_> Cornellius: then can you go in to adept and update packages?
[05:14] <xxx> so ,where r u come from
[05:14] <xxx> dbmp
[05:14] <[arcane] > apoc0106, well looks like you do
[05:14] <bdmp_> 
[05:14] <dipnlik> hi all. does anyone know if i can use skippy-xd in ubuntu? links is http://thegraveyard.org/skippy.php , it says it uses XDamage, XComposite and XFixes extensions
[05:15] <apoc0106> haha good answer one moment please
[05:15] <[arcane] > apoc0106, ask someone in here what you need to install for alsa
[05:15] <xxx> 
[05:15] <bdmp_> ah,
[05:15] <bdmp_> gotta love the chinese
[05:15] <xxx> not ,lol
[05:15] <bdmp_> it is here
[05:15] <apoc0106> [arcane] , there is no alsaconf package
[05:15] <bdmp_> it used to be 
[05:16] <[arcane] > apoc0106, try installing alsa-lib, alsa-utils
[05:16] <bdmp_> so it became 
[05:16] <hrothbeort> kieranDOA:  Ah, gotcha -- well most of it should work, though I'm certainly no expert. There is OS X specific stuff in there, however, like calls to quartz-wm and whatnot.
[05:16] <[arcane] > alsaconf is a tool to find out what the card is
[05:16] <bdmp_> xxx, did you add your sources?
[05:16] <apoc0106> [arcane] , thereis no alsa-lib,andi already have alsa-utils
[05:16] <kieranDOA> hrothbeort: Thanks, Thats fine i just need to get the monitor settings etc
[05:17] <Fyb3r> hey can someone help me out?
[05:17] <[arcane] > apoc0106, if you have alsa-utils that cmd should have worked?
[05:17] <hrothbeort> kieranDOA: cool, good luck
[05:17] <xxx> yea ,i know ,,the proncunciation is america
[05:17] <Fyb3r> i downloaded the live cd......tried to install and its giving me a black screen after partitioning
[05:17] <Fyb3r> all i can see is the mouse pointer
[05:17] <[arcane] > apoc0106, if that does work ask one of these ubuntu users what you need
[05:17] <GTroy> I haven't checked yet, does dapper fix the sound issues with streaming vids?
[05:17] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, that means it crashed
[05:18] <apoc0106> ok, ubuntuusers,what doi need to get alsa sound working??
[05:18] <Fyb3r> well it keeps doing it
[05:18] <xxx> yea ,ive add my souce
[05:18] <Fyb3r> anyway to get it to work?
[05:18] <GTroy> apoc0106, you select it
[05:18] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, no not really
[05:18] <xxx> dbmp,u can type chinese?
[05:18] <Fyb3r> so your product doesnt work?
[05:18] <apoc0106> GTroy, not autodetect?
[05:18] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, what were you trying to accompish ??
[05:18] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, not my product
[05:18] <bdmp_> xxx, I can type japanese not chinese
[05:19] <xxx> but u typed chinese just now
[05:19] <bdmp_> xxx, did you add your sources?
[05:19] <xxx> yea ,i added
[05:19] <bdmp_> that is old japanese , i.e. chinese
[05:19] <GTroy> apoc, you know there's oss, and esd too
[05:19] <GTroy> you might have to select from them
[05:19] <buzzed> so sdl vs x11?
[05:19] <Fyb3r> why would it be crashing?
[05:19] <GTroy> Fyb3r, can you restart x?
[05:19] <xxx> why u ask me agian and again did i  add my source ?
[05:20] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, idk what were trying to accomplish
[05:20] <Fyb3r> i can restart if i press the restart button on my pc
[05:20] <[arcane] > meaning what was the reason to use it
[05:20] <apoc0106> i know, this card i think only works with oss...i downloaded the special driver but it seems to not compile correctly i think because of gcc
[05:20] <Frogzoo> !tell Fyb3r about fixres
[05:20] <xxx> sth wrong with my source?
[05:20] <[arcane] > apoc0106, ubuntu isnt really meant for compiling
[05:20] <GTroy> Fyb3r, not with ctrl alt backspace?
[05:20] <[arcane] > apoc0106, get lspci
[05:20] <Fyb3r> nope
[05:20] <ardy> how to setup printer ? I dont see any printer service in gnome
[05:20] <[arcane] > then use that cmd to see what it says
[05:20] <ardy> help!  how to setup printer ? I dont see any printer service in gnome
[05:20] <Fyb3r> how?>
[05:20] <apoc0106> [arcane] , whats that do
[05:21] <dr_willis> ardy,  its un the menus , look again
[05:21] <dipnlik> [arcane] : speaking of compile, can you help me with skippy-xd ?
[05:21] <Frogzoo> Fyb3r: read the pm from ubotu
[05:21] <[arcane] > apoc0106, it shows what pci slots are being used
[05:21] <apoc0106> [arcane] , ok, then what
[05:21] <[arcane] > dipnlik, skippy well what do ya need
[05:21] <GTroy> anyone have sound issues with streaming video, and mov, api?
[05:21] <[arcane] > apoc0106, look for the snd card
[05:21] <dipnlik> [arcane] : http://thegraveyard.org/skippy.php lists skippy and skippy-xd . xd looks better but it is not on the repos
[05:21] <bdmp_> xxx, I don't know how much you know about ubuntu so I am trying to see what you know so I can give you tips if you need them. You didn't know what the bot was so I thought you might not know how to set up sources. Just trying to help
[05:21] <ardy> dr_willis, what do u mean un ??
[05:22] <dr_willis> ardy,  IN the menus.. look again.
[05:22] <[arcane] > dipnlik, usually its not good to go out of apt
[05:22] <GTroy> !sound
[05:22] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:22] <[arcane] > not to mention that ubuntu does compile well
[05:22] <ardy> dr_willis, no its not there
[05:22] <[arcane] > doesnt*
[05:22] <dipnlik> [arcane] : wow. why?
[05:23] <Frogzoo> arcade: gcc is gcc - what do you mean "doesn't compile well"?
[05:23] <dipnlik> [arcane] : i mean why do you say it doesn't compile well?
[05:23] <ardy> dr_willis, it missing in gnome
[05:23] <dr_willis> ardy, you could always open a shell and use the gnome-cups-somthing tool. :P type gnome-cups<tab>    (hit the tab key)
[05:23] <[arcane] > dipnlik, idk i have never really seen ppl compile on it
[05:23] <[arcane] > due to they are used to packages
[05:23] <apoc0106> [arcane] , this is annoying... i have lsscisi but no ffreak lspci
[05:23] <Frogzoo> [arcane] : ubuntu compiles just fine thanks
[05:23] <LeoStewart> does anybody else have problems minimizing beep media player on dapper?
[05:23] <[arcane] > apoc0106, then see what package you have to get
[05:23] <bdmp_> I just upgraded to dapper and now my network is down. Any suggestions?
[05:24] <[arcane] > Frogzoo, ok whatever
[05:24] <apoc0106> [arcane] , i dontknow :(
[05:24] <Frogzoo> [arcane] : you just need to install "build-essential"
[05:24] <xxx> dbmp thanku ,u r so nice
[05:24] <ardy> dr_willis, it is not there, I type and tab it already
[05:24] <[arcane] > apoc0106, well use synaptic and search for lspci
[05:24] <[arcane] > Frogzoo, well thx but i dont use ubuntu
[05:24] <apoc0106> is synaptic better than adept
[05:24] <ghrey> does easy ubuntu work well to install java and flash
[05:24] <ghrey> ?
[05:25] <[arcane] > dipnlik, you get that
[05:25] <spikeb> apoc0106: i dont know about better. it's different
[05:25] <dr_willis>  gnome-cups-add
[05:25] <dr_willis>    gnome-cups-manager are 2 that i see.
[05:25] <[arcane] > dipnlik, install build essentials
[05:25] <bdmp_> ghrey, yeah
[05:25] <Fyb3r> ok ummmm how would fixing code help my prob?
[05:25] <detectiveinspekt> I clicked on a floppy drive but I forgot that the power for it is out, now I can't close the window it just shows its working
[05:25] <Fyb3r> its a live cd
[05:25] <ToHellWithGA> ghrey: you can even use ubuntu in your native language (probably)
[05:25] <detectiveinspekt> how can I kill it?
[05:25] <apoc0106> i installed build essentials
[05:25] <dr_willis> ghrey,  java is a simple install now. you dont need easyubuntiu for it.
[05:25] <bdmp_> flash will auto install in firefox and java can be installed with synaptic
[05:25] <ToHellWithGA> b/c it clearly isn't english
[05:25] <Sgeo> Bye all
[05:25] <dr_willis> ghrey,  and flash was a simple install i recall also.
[05:25] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, honestly if it didnt work of well
[05:25] <[arcane] > just try again
[05:26] <[arcane] > or use a better live cd
[05:26] <ToHellWithGA> ghrey: check out the languages available.  it does work well with flash and java
[05:26] <Fyb3r> how do i run these commands?
[05:26] <Fyb3r> i dont understand, because it says to reboot, but if i reboot it will just go back to what it was
[05:26] <ic56> bdmp_: re: your network problem: wireless or wired?
[05:26] <Frogzoo> Fyb3r: from a terminal -> apps -> accessories -> terminal
[05:26] <revilot> could someone take a look at this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 and try and help me figure out wth im doing wrong
[05:26] <ardy> dr_willis, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15435
[05:26] <xxx> dbmp ,im just use ubuntu half a mouth ,i like it ,and also have thouands of hundreds of problem ,it's very nice of u to help me
[05:27] <xxx> all people here r so nice
[05:27] <xxx> thank u all,guys
[05:27] <Frogzoo> Fyb3r: you just need to restart X - hit 'ctrl alt backspace'
[05:27] <[arcane] > xxx, no thank you
[05:27] <Fyb3r> it freezes the install at about 54%
[05:27] <Fyb3r> thats when this starts occuring
[05:27] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, why dont you just use the reg install disc
[05:27] <bdmp_> xxx, do you know what sources are?
[05:27] <student> hi
[05:28] <ic56> !justask
[05:28] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[05:28] <Fyb3r> ummm because all i have is the live cd
[05:28] <Frogzoo> Fyb3r: you are installing then? not just trying to run ubuntu off the live cd?
[05:28] <Fyb3r> i dont know where the install disc is....
[05:28] <apoc0106> [arcane] , Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device                                                                                                    4310
[05:28] <apoc0106> 0000:00:0e.1 Communication controller: Rockwell International Riptide HSF 56k PC                                                                                                   I Modem
[05:28] <apoc0106> there you go
[05:28] <Fyb3r> yes i am trying to install
[05:28] <Fyb3r> i choose to format the entire drive and it gets to 54%
[05:28] <xxx> dbmp ,sources can let me update my system and software ,am i right?
[05:28] <[arcane] > apoc0106, hmm
[05:28] <Fyb3r> then freezes
[05:28] <[arcane] > apoc0106, that is odd
[05:28] <jhenn> hi. how do i find out what driver my pcmcia card is using?
[05:28] <[arcane] > apoc0106, have you seen if alsa supports it
[05:29] <ic56> Fyb3r: 54% of formatting or installing?
[05:29] <[arcane] > go to the site and look
[05:29] <bdmp_> xxx, yes. Did you change them?
[05:29] <apoc0106> oss does
[05:29] <apoc0106> not alsa
[05:29] <LeoStewart> Does anybody else use BMP?
[05:29] <bdmp_> xxx, having the right sources could solve a lot of problems
[05:29] <xxx> yea ,when i installed my ubuntu
[05:29] <LeoStewart> I'm having problems with it.
[05:29] <vbgunz> is there an easy way to list a packages dependencies on the command line?
[05:29] <revilot> has anyone in here had to install broadcom drivers in ubuntu
[05:29] <[arcane] > apoc0106, well OSS isnt developed for linux no more
[05:29] <Fyb3r> installing
[05:29] <bdmp_> xxx, where did you get your sources from?
[05:29] <chapium> does anyone here have issues with ubuntu on imac g3 displaying on the wrong screen?
[05:29] <apoc0106> yeah but i got the driver from www.opensound.com
[05:29] <xxx> i know the impoteance of source:)
[05:29] <vbgunz> apt-get --help
[05:30] <Fyb3r> i click install.....then watch it get to 54% and it freezes
[05:30] <[arcane] > apoc0106, yeah thats old
[05:30] <Murrlin> g'evening all
[05:30] <[arcane] > apoc0106, but now that yoou installed build essentails
[05:30] <bdmp_> xxx, what other problems have you had?
[05:30] <jhenn>  how do i find out what driver my pcmcia card is using?
[05:30] <[arcane] > try to compile it
[05:30] <Murrlin> just seeing if I can find out what "LTS" means
[05:30] <spikeb> Murrlin: long term support
[05:30] <apoc0106> it doesnt work
[05:30] <Murrlin> ahh
[05:30] <apoc0106> i get errors
[05:30] <joycetick> hi, when booting from the ubuntu dapper cd it doesent get past 'adding live cd user', it just goes back to a screen with "Uncompressing Linux.... Ok, booting the kernel."
[05:30] <ic56> I think LTS is Lightweight Terminal Services
[05:30] <apoc0106> i know it has something to do with gcc
[05:30] <[arcane] > apoc0106, what errors
[05:30] <apoc0106> it wants gcc 3.4
[05:30] <xxx> dbmp,i got the sources from www.ubuntu.org.cn,there is a guide for people like me
[05:30] <[arcane] > apoc0106, PM me
[05:31] <jhenn> Murrlin: long turd shits
[05:31] <Murrlin> my synaptic alert is showing the 6.06 LTS upgrade
[05:31] <bdmp_> cool.
[05:31] <revilot> i need some help installing broadcom drivers in ubuntu.  I'm using this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[05:31] <Murrlin> I've had those :P
[05:31] <bengt__> Hi, Do anyone know why I have 2 squares before and after the author name in the timestamp window in XChat-Gnome?
[05:31] <ic56> !ubuntultsp
[05:31] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntultsp is on https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
[05:31] <Fyb3r> anyone have an idea?
[05:31] <xxx> !help
[05:31] <ghrey> easubuntu is taking some time to prepare packages
[05:31] <ic56> !lts
[05:31] <ghrey> is that normla?
[05:31] <ubotu> I guess lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:31] <ghrey> normal
[05:32] <kieranDOA> hrothbeort: you still here?
[05:32] <joycetick> when booting from the ubuntu dapper cd it doesent get past 'adding live cd user', it just goes back to a screen with "Uncompressing Linux.... Ok, booting the kernel." anyone know why?
[05:32] <xxx> dbmp ,how many command does the bot can do ?
[05:32] <bdmp_> xxx, what do you need help with?
[05:32] <bdmp_> xxx: it only does certin words. You have to learn the words.
[05:32] <ic56> xxx: just /msg ubotu help  for a list of commands
[05:33] <bdmp_> xxx, it doesn't think.
[05:33] <xxx> i just tried to see whether can i seek a list of command
[05:33] <bdmp_> oh, ok
[05:33] <bdmp_> did you see what ic56 wrote
[05:33] <Fyb3r> would it have to do with the fact that the live cd is trying to format the primary partition?
[05:33] <bean> hi, does ubuntu come with firewall by default?
[05:34] <kieranDOA> iptables
[05:34] <pppoe_dude> bean, all linuxes come with one
[05:34] <bean> cos i'm running amule and it says my kad network is firewalled
[05:34] <revilot> can anyone help me get my wireless working?
[05:34] <xxx> dbmp ,i tried /msg,no response
[05:34] <kieranDOA> bean: that shouldnt be anything to do with iptables, do you have a router by any chance?
[05:35] <ic56> bengt__ squares around author name sound like colour coding or emphasis gone bad.  Possibly a config problem.
[05:35] <AlienX> revilot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:35] <bdmp_> .... /msg ubotu help
[05:35] <planetcall> Hi, My Ubuntu partitions are ReiserFS. How can I convert to XFS now without needing to reinstall the OS ?
[05:35] <bean> well it says here (http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq?highlight=%28firewall%29) that there is no default firewall
[05:35] <Fyb3r> is there a way to run the install from my laptop?
[05:35] <Frogzoo> xxx listkeys  to the bot to search
[05:35] <bean> kieranDOA: yes i have an ADSL modem-cum-router
[05:35] <pppoe_dude> bean, that problem doesnt seem to be coming from iptable
[05:35] <pppoe_dude> s
[05:35] <xxx> .../msg
[05:35] <bean> pppoe_dude: ok
[05:35] <bean> then where?
[05:35] <revilot> AlienX: ive tried going through the guides with no success
[05:36] <pppoe_dude> bean, are you behind a router / using a NAT network, etc
[05:36] <kieranDOA> bean: you may need to set a static ip up and forward ports, though im not sure if thats the problem, im guessing it is
[05:36] <bdmp_> xxx you need the uboto and the help
[05:36] <revilot> AlienX: no idea what im doing wrong
[05:36] <Murrlin> ok. http://www.customerssuck.com/board/lofiversion/index.php/t1676.html
[05:36] <Fyb3r> guys can u please help me?
[05:36] <AlienX> revilot, are you sure your card is supported
[05:36] <ToHellWithGA> !porn
[05:36] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ToHellWithGA
[05:36] <Murrlin> oops n/m wrong window ^^;
[05:36] <ToHellWithGA> hehe
[05:36] <bengt__> ic56: Thanks, I will check it out. Have to go :( , back later :0
[05:36] <Murrlin> sorry about that
[05:36] <AlienX> Fyb3r, just ask your question and if someone can help, they will
[05:36] <bdmp_> xxx: "/msg ubotu help"
[05:36] <revilot> its a broadcom 5318
[05:36] <xxx> how can i do
[05:36] <bean> yes but my modem/router transparently forwards ports in windows
[05:36] <AlienX> revilot, is it on the list on that site I gave you?
[05:36] <pppoe_dude> bean, not in linux
[05:36] <bean> i have no trouble with bittorrent in windows
[05:36] <ToHellWithGA> there's no built-in porn magic autodownloader in ubuntu, right?
[05:36] <revilot> AlienX: its in the list
[05:36] <bean> but doesn't the router take care of it?
[05:36] <ToHellWithGA> besides sudo apt-get some
[05:36] <pppoe_dude> bean, did u set it up so it forwards ports?
[05:37] <AlienX> revilot, and it says it's supported?
[05:37] <Frogzoo> ToHellWithGA: it's called azureus
[05:37] <Fyb3r> my question was......why can i not install from the live cd?
[05:37] <pppoe_dude> bean, or is it Upnp style?
[05:37] <bdmp_> xxx: "/msg ubotu help"
[05:37] <ToHellWithGA> Frogzoo: thanks
[05:37] <bean> Upnp
[05:37] <Fyb3r> it installs to 54% and freezes
[05:37] <revilot> AlienX: maybe im looking at a different list
[05:37] <bean> pppoe_dude: it's UPnP
[05:37] <pppoe_dude> bean, you need to manually set it up
[05:37] <vbgunz> how can I check over the commandline what dependencies are required for the package?
[05:37] <darius_> Is there any way to have a mirror ubuntu server for environments where you update many computers (to keep from updating via Internet for every system)?
[05:37] <revilot> AlienX: this is a list of cards that work with ndiswrapper
[05:37] <pppoe_dude> bean, Upnp is dependant upon programs that support Upnp
[05:37] <ToHellWithGA> vbgunz: you don't have to unless you're really interested
[05:37] <pppoe_dude> bean, it is not the operating system that does that
[05:37] <ToHellWithGA> apt-get should get them by default
[05:38] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: how can I find out the dependencies over the cli ?
[05:38] <Fyb3r> am i on ignore?
[05:38] <bean> pppoe_dude: ok
[05:38] <ToHellWithGA> Fyb3r: i can read your messages
[05:38] <bean> pppoe_dude: how do i go about setting it up?
[05:38] <pppoe_dude> Fyb3r, did u check the disk for errors?
[05:38] <ToHellWithGA> vbgunz: if you need to know, go look at the source
[05:38] <Fyb3r> yes
[05:38] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: I know, I have a script and I think I am installing dependencies along side packages that already get them
[05:38] <Fyb3r> it went through fine
[05:38] <Anonycat> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54G to work on Ubuntu.  ndiswrapper is configured and says "Driver present, hardware present" but I can't connect to the network.  What could be wrong?
[05:38] <revilot> AlienX: this is a list of cards that work with ndiswrapper
[05:38] <bean> pppoe_dude: or can u point me at a guide or faq?
[05:38] <pppoe_dude> bean, probably get into your router and go under port forwarding
[05:38] <revilot> AlienX: its in that list
[05:38] <Frogzoo> darius_: take a look at debmirror - sounds like it does what you need, haven't used it myself though
[05:39] <xxx> dbmp ,i saw it
[05:39] <pppoe_dude> bean, what programs do you need to work ?
[05:39] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: there is no way to list dependencies of a package over the command line>?
[05:39] <darius_> Frogzoo: thanks
[05:39] <bean> amule
[05:39] <bean> kademlia network in amule
[05:39] <ToHellWithGA> vbgunz: just find the source for the packages in which you're interested.  you can download the source if you turn on the source repositories
[05:39] <kayde> i need help with gimp!
[05:39] <bean> so linux can't use UPnP?
[05:39] <Fyb3r> why does the screen turn black and i can still see my mouse?
[05:39] <ToHellWithGA> kayde: how so?
[05:39] <Warbo> OK, incase anyone is interested I have finished a guide here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromUSB and I have started a guide which was needed by this guide here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mount
[05:39] <acke__> Hey I wasnt able to find java 1.5.x in the package list. does ubuntu have jre1.5.x??
[05:39] <bean> i mean ubuntu doesn't support Upnp?
[05:39] <tau> Hello..  I'm trying to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy 5.10, but I get this error: "Could not calculate the upgrade - A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug." Can someone help me out?
[05:39] <ToHellWithGA> acke__: apt-cache search java |grep sun
[05:39] <AlienX> revilot, i don't see the broadcom 5318 in that list
[05:40] <bean> pppoe_dude: kademlia network in amule
[05:40] <xxx> dbmp ,i saw the bot ,but seems no commad u told me ,such as !paste !chinese !upgrade
[05:40] <Warbo> acke__: Yes, itis called sun-java5-XXXX (where XXXX can be doc, bin, etc)
[05:40] <revilot> AlienX: give me the link to the list youre looking at
[05:40] <pppoe_dude> bean, you need to go to preferences and see which ports are needed
[05:40] <antinobody> I'm having the same problem as Anonycat
[05:40] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: I have far too many packages to do it like that. it'll take forever :(
[05:40] <bdmp_> tau:  how were you upgrading?
[05:40] <AlienX> revilot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:40] <Frogzoo> acke__: sun-java5-jre
[05:40] <Fyb3r> there someone i can pm?
[05:40] <kayde> ToHellWithGA, i need to figure out how to put my .scm script into gimp...
[05:40] <pppoe_dude> bean, linux can use upnp, but it depends on the programs that you use
[05:40] <tau> bdmp: using the standard upgrade manager from the system/admin menu
[05:40] <BlueEagle> Since no-one in #xubuntu knows and since someone here _might_ know. What is "the best way"(tm) to configure a printer in xubuntu? I installed gnome-cups-manager to get it done. It worked but packaged a lot of libs that probably won't be used for anything else.
[05:40] <ToHellWithGA> vbgunz: i'm still lost as to why you have to know the dependencies if they'll auto-install as needed
[05:40] <pppoe_dude> bean, you also need amule to bind to your external IP address
[05:40] <ToHellWithGA> and if you really do care to know, the source will tell you
[05:41] <bdmp_> xxx: !chinese is not a command. I thought it might be. Here watch this... with french...
[05:41] <bdmp_> !french
[05:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:41] <kayde> ToHellWithGA, what?
[05:41] <AlienX> BlueEagle, i always use the web interface for setting up a printer in cups. Check the man page for details
[05:41] <Fyb3r> `/me can someone please help me
[05:41] <idcard> ok...
[05:41] <dr_willis> Cups web interface is buggered up. :(
[05:41] <bean> pppoe_dude: ok
[05:41] <kayde> ToHellWithGA, the source says nothing of help...
[05:41] <acke__> frogzpp thanks
[05:41] <bean> pppoe_dude: can u point me at a guide/wiki/faq?
[05:41] <idcard> i have a serious ubuntu install problem
[05:41] <acke__> frogzoo ty
[05:41] <BlueEagle> alienx: I was unable to figure out what the username and password was supposed to be.
[05:41] <Fyb3r> same here idcard
[05:41] <Frogzoo> acke__: yw
[05:42] <pppoe_dude> bean, 1 sec im lookin
[05:42] <Fyb3r> no one is helpin me
[05:42] <BlueEagle> alienx: ..or how to set it.
[05:42] <xxx> dbmp,so ,how about !upgrade? i didnt see it
[05:42] <revilot> AlienX: its in this list http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[05:42] <kayde> Fyb3r, what with?
[05:42] <idcard> i messed up the mbr
[05:42] <AlienX> BlueEagle, it's your root password
[05:42] <bean> pppoe_dude: thanks
[05:42] <Fyb3r> i get to 54
[05:42] <Fyb3r> ahh
[05:42] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: I've been writing a script now for about 2 years. it restores my system from scratch on any new installation. it completely restores my system. I download many packages and now I think I might be downloading dependencies along side the packages that require them... it might not be a biggie but I would like to clean up and include in the script only what I really need
[05:42] <ToHellWithGA> kayde: i didn't say outright i could help you.  i just wanted you to formulate a question.  can anybody here help kayde with putting his script into The GIMP?
[05:42] <coreyo> what are the grub commands to reinstall grub to your mbr?
[05:42] <Fyb3r> 54% on my install on the live cd and it goes black, but i can still see my mouse
[05:42] <AlienX> revilot, hmm, no idea what to tell you then. I use an orinoco card and it just works :)
[05:42] <BlueEagle> alienx: so I need to set a root password for it to work? and use the root user?
[05:42] <xxx> 11:37:29) ubotu: 34 topics: kick, lart, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, lobotomy, lock, main, nickometer, nslookup, ord, part, quote, redirection, rename, reply, rot13, search, seen, slashdot, spell, status, tell, topic, topic add, topic del, topic mod, topic mv, topic restore, unforget, unlobotomy, unlock, uptime, wantnick
[05:43] <bdmp_> ic56, xxx is right. that list doesn't have !paste and !upgrade. Maybe that is the wrong help commmand.  What do you think?
[05:43] <AlienX> BlueEagle, I don't know if you *need* to do it that way, but it's how my system is configured. I'm sure there are people who might advise against it
[05:43] <Frogzoo> !tell idcard about recoveringgrub
[05:43] <revilot> AlienX: thx anyway
[05:43] <ToHellWithGA> so vbgunz you're saying you only want to include the highest level packages so that the little ones aren't required in the list
[05:43] <kayde> Fyb3r, woa! i have no idea man, try asking the room
[05:43] <varsendaggr> kayde, what id going on?
[05:43] <bdmp_> xxx, I am trying to figure it out.
[05:43] <acke__> my 15.4 can do 1400x800 but is set to 1024x800 Can I change the screenres to something more appropriate?
[05:43] <xxx> this is result after i typed that
[05:43] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: yes, basically
[05:43] <BlueEagle> alienx: Ok. Thanks for your help. :)
[05:43] <ToHellWithGA> vbgunz: that's so sexy
[05:43] <AlienX> BlueEagle, np, good luck
[05:43] <Anonycat> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54G to work on Ubuntu.  ndiswrapper is configured and says "Driver present, hardware present" but I can't connect to the network.  What could be wrong?
[05:43] <Fyb3r> i have tried, but no one will help =(
[05:43] <ToHellWithGA> good luck with that
[05:43] <pppoe_dude> bean, http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/Firewall << guide for linux but not ubuntu, should give you an idea of which ports to forward
[05:43] <bdmp_> xxx, you should start a chinese channel. for other people.
[05:43] <kayde> varsendaggr, i cant get my .scm script to work>i dont know where to put it...
[05:43] <bdmp_> !languages
[05:43] <ubotu> it has been said that languages is found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&value=languages&titlesearch=Titles
[05:44] <idcard> right now i am using the cd to boot into the kernel
[05:44] <kayde> Fyb3r, try and google it
[05:44] <xxx> i dont know the name of chinese channel
[05:44] <varsendaggr> jsut a sec
[05:44] <kayde> varsendaggr, ok :0
[05:44] <tau> bdmp: did you see my reply?
[05:44] <Fyb3r> i HAVE!!!
[05:44] <reZo> Does Fluxbox work on Ubuntu 5.04?
[05:44] <spikeb> xxx: #ubuntu-cn i would imagine
[05:44] <Fyb3r> ive even been on the forums
[05:44] <pppoe_dude> bean, seems like ports 4662 4665 4672 need to be forwarded
[05:44] <kayde> Fyb3r, ok...
[05:44] <pppoe_dude> bean, do you know how to login to your router?
[05:44] <AlienX> reZo, i would guess that fluxbox would work on anything :)
[05:44] <Fyb3r> now i cant burn any cd's....because its on my main desktop
[05:44] <xxx> ok ,let me try
[05:45] <bean> yep
[05:45] <Fyb3r> so my only hope would be a network install from my laptop
[05:45] <reZo> AlienX, okay, yeah, true...
[05:45] <bean> pppoe_dude: yes
[05:45] <bean> pppoe_dude: forward those ports to which port?
[05:45] <idcard> i have two hard drives... one sata and the other ide ubuntu default installed the mbr i think on my ide which the kernel is not on
[05:45] <bdmp_> xxx, i mean make one. Then we can register it with ubuntu and when people like you come here we can say "!chinese" and the bot will say "go to #ubuntu-cn
[05:45] <AlienX> reZo, you may need multiuniverse or one of those sources though. Try apt-cache search fluxbox
[05:45] <pppoe_dude> bean, same ports on your local ip
[05:45] <bdmp_> spikeb: there is no channel but I am trying to get xxx to make one.
[05:45] <bean> pppoe_dude: ok
[05:45] <spikeb> hmm
[05:45] <bean> pppoe_dude: i'll try that
[05:45] <spikeb> there's a factoid about it though
[05:45] <bean> pppoe_dude: thanks
[05:46] <bdmp_> !languages
[05:46] <ubotu> languages is, like, found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&value=languages&titlesearch=Titles
[05:46] <bdmp_> right?
[05:46] <ToHellWithGA> bdmp_: what do you mean "you people"
[05:46] <varsendaggr> kayde, maybe .gimp/plugins
[05:46] <ToHellWithGA> or rather "people like you"
[05:46] <AlienX> Fyb3r, if someone can help, they will. be patient
[05:46] <ToHellWithGA> Fyb3r: capslock is unlikely to win you friends
[05:46] <planetcall> how can fstab be fixed autmatically ?
[05:47] <xxx> dbmp ,there is a chinese channel:) i got in it:)
[05:47] <ToHellWithGA> planetcall: what's broken about it?
[05:47] <pppoe_dude> bean, np
[05:47] <acke__> Where is java installed?
[05:47] <kayde> varsendaggr, in gimp ...etc/gimp/2.0/ then there is nothing other than geditt files :(
[05:47] <Fyb3r> well why isnt this install workink as it should?
[05:47] <AlienX> Fyb3r, be more specific
[05:47] <varsendaggr> kayde, i don't know
[05:47] <planetcall> ToHellWithGA,  it says difference between bootsector and its backup while rebooting
[05:47] <Fyb3r> I HAVE!!!!
[05:47] <ToHellWithGA> kayde: there are no "gedit files" it's just the default application when browsing graphically for text files
[05:47] <varsendaggr> sorry
[05:47] <bdmp_> ToHellWithGA: I mean "people like you" meaning people who speak chinese. Not "you people" what do you mean? I don't suppose that I live in Japan and can read and write Japanese makes me not racist>
[05:47] <Fyb3r> i get to 54% and it freezes
[05:47] <bdmp_> ?
[05:47] <Fyb3r> then the screen turns black
[05:47] <ToHellWithGA> bdmp_: racist :p
[05:47] <kayde> ToHellWithGA, so, how do i do itt?
[05:48] <Fyb3r> all i can see is my mouse
[05:48] <bdmp_> What were you implying?
[05:48] <AlienX> Fyb3r, what happens when you hit a key? which method are you installing with?
[05:48] <planetcall> I would like fstab to autmatically generate the mount table for all drives and partitions as it happens during installation
[05:48] <Fyb3r> this is on a live cd
[05:48] <ToHellWithGA> kayde, i was just pointing out that it's not a "gedit" file
[05:48] <ToHellWithGA> bdmp_: peace man.  i was kidding
[05:48] <kayde> ToHellWithGA, :(
[05:48] <tau> bdmp_: hello?
[05:48] <Fyb3r> hit a key does nothing
[05:48] <Fyb3r> im choose to format entire disk
[05:48] <Fyb3r> but it is the primary hdd
[05:48] <Fyb3r> so im thinkin thats what it is
[05:49] <kayde> damit
[05:49] <ToHellWithGA> somebody tell fyb3r that trick to close your desktop in gdm
[05:49] <AlienX> Fyb3r, is the hard drive still spinning when it goes black?
[05:49] <bdmp_> tau: yes?
[05:49] <Fyb3r> yes
[05:49] <ToHellWithGA> that key combo.  ctrl+shift+backspace or something
[05:49] <AdmiralCrunch> Am I correct in saying that a lot of people are having 'fglrx' problems?
[05:49] <Fyb3r> but cd and hdd light are off
[05:49] <Fyb3r> so im guessing no
[05:49] <tau> bdmp_: you asked what method I was using to upgrade, I said I used update-manager
[05:49] <planetcall> ToHellWithGA, any idea ?
[05:49] <Fyb3r> but why would it get up to 54% and freeze?
[05:49] <jighead> AdmiralCrunch, yes
[05:49] <xxx> dbmp , i like both ubuntu-cn and here ,i can exercise my english ,if u guys wont bore me:)
[05:49] <ToHellWithGA> planetcall: no idea
[05:49] <bdmp_> ToHellWithGA: sorry, I can't tell sarcasm over text.
[05:50] <ToHellWithGA> no doubt
[05:50] <tau> bdmp_: it's back up there if you missed it
[05:50] <AlienX> Fyb3r, hmm...any number of reasons. You may have unsupported hardware, your harddrive could be bad, the disk could be burned badly...
[05:50] <bdmp_> xxx, oh, no problem. I thought there was no chinese channel so I was suggesting you make one. My bad.
[05:50] <Fyb3r> well i cant burn another ddisk because my only burner is on the pc im tryin to get workinm
[05:50] <Fyb3r> my only option is to try a network install from my laptop
[05:51] <bdmp_> !upgrade
[05:51] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[05:51] <Fyb3r> but i dont know how
[05:51] <ToHellWithGA> Fyb3r: you can't burn a CD on somebody else's computer?
[05:51] <bdmp_> tau: what are you upgreading to? Dapper?
[05:51] <xxx> well ,it's still a good idea, even there is already  one
[05:51] <Fyb3r> no
[05:51] <tau> bdmp_: yes
[05:51] <ToHellWithGA> it doesn't take long to download ubuntu.  surely one of your friends or coworkers would let you burn a CD
[05:51] <Fyb3r> this laptop doesnt have a burner
[05:51] <AlienX> Fyb3r, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot?action=show&redirect=NetbootInstall
[05:52] <Fyb3r> i have no friends that have a pc near my house
[05:52] <ToHellWithGA> Fyb3r: think bigger.  there's a world outside the room where you have your computers
[05:52] <redrum_> fyb3r you can order cds from ubuntu?
[05:52] <ToHellWithGA> you might have to drive or walk.  small price to pay
[05:52] <Coldtoast> yeah. but that world SUCKS
[05:52] <Fyb3r> i did order them
[05:52] <Anonycat> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54G to work on Ubuntu.  ndiswrapper is configured and says "Driver present, hardware present" but I can't connect to the network.  What could be wrong?
[05:52] <ToHellWithGA> lol @ Coldtoast
[05:52] <Fyb3r> but i cant wait 3 wks
[05:52] <redrum_> lol
[05:52] <Coldtoast> I'm 33 so I know these things
[05:52] <intelikey> ToHellWithGA doesn't take long to dl an iso..... dialup here baby.  takes for ever and a day.
[05:53] <ToHellWithGA> Fyb3r: if you care enough you can do the net install or (to counter intelikey) go to your public library and download and burn it
[05:53] <t-thing> hi. I've got BCM4318 wireless card with wep encryption and for some reason it can't find my ap so I can't get an ip. iwconfig says access point invalid. Could someone help me out here?
[05:53] <Coldtoast> even on dialup you'd have it sooner than waiting for the discs
[05:53] <Chihork> would someone explain initrd a little bit to me?  Like, what does this do at boottime?
[05:53] <AlienX> ubotu, tell Anonycat about wireless
[05:53] <Fyb3r> but i cant wait 3 wks?
[05:53] <Fyb3r> wtf
[05:53] <Fyb3r> ToHellWithGA: this laptop is runnin XP......can i still do the net install?
[05:54] <bdmp_> tau: go to the second link that the bot posts when I say !upgrade, then use the second part on the faq, about upgrading over comand line. Make sure you read that whole section to the bottom before you start so you don't mess up the system. I will walk you through it if you need it. Just read it first.
[05:54] <bdmp_> !upgrade
[05:54] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[05:54] <Fyb3r> lol damn up key
[05:54] <Coldtoast> wonder what % of ppl run KDE instead of GNOME
[05:54] <jighead> Chihork, it preloads essential modules into memory that will let your kernel get going
[05:54] <AlienX> Fyb3r, read that site i sent you, it tells you how to do a net install
[05:54] <Fyb3r> ok but from xp?
[05:54] <intelikey> Coldtoast not so sure about that.  but what if you don't want it bad enought to install it if the disks were lying in front of you.... ?
[05:54] <AdmiralCrunch> Coldtoast, I don't know how you would get those stats
[05:54] <Chihork> jighead: does it do anything else, or is it strictly there to load modules?  Does it run any scripts?
[05:55] <jighead> Chihork, it's just modules for hardware support
[05:55] <BlueEagle> chihork: initrd = initial ram disk. http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/initrd.html
[05:55] <bdmp_> xxx: there is a chinese channel. I didn't know there was. It looks cool. I wish there was a japanese one.
[05:55] <Frogzoo> Coldtoast: if it's proportional to peeps in #ubuntu vs #kubuntu, then I'd say around 20%
[05:55] <BlueEagle> ,--8<-
[05:55] <BlueEagle> |"The key role of initrd here is to re-use the configuration data
[05:55] <BlueEagle> |during normal system operation without requiring the use of a
[05:55] <BlueEagle> `-->8-
[05:55] <AlienX> Fyb3r, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[05:55] <BlueEagle> ouch. sorry about that.
[05:55] <BlueEagle> I hoped to get all that text on one line :(
[05:55] <Chihork> awesome.  jibhead, BlueEagle, thanks.
[05:56] <Chihork> jighead, rather
[05:56] <tau> bdmp_: I wanted to avoid using the command line..  do you think given the problem that upgrading by hand is the only way around it?
[05:56] <SurfnKid> ok this is weird
[05:56] <SurfnKid> anyone using ICQ under GAIM
[05:56] <intelikey> so i'm forved to use lilo cause grub can't be installed on this system.      oh well.
[05:56] <intelikey> forced
[05:56] <SurfnKid> i cant get my account to come up
[05:56] <dr_willis> embrace the command line.. its your friend.
[05:56] <AlienX> Fyb3r, though that may just be for breezy...i'm not sure
[05:56] <bdmp_> tau. I think it will be a lot less painful and quck if you use the command line.
[05:57] <wweasel> Hey guys, I have a question and I know it's stupid and easy to solve, I just don't know how. I have a clean install of Ubuntu.  I'd like to access my Windows NTFS partition.  It's loaded by default in "Computer." Don't have permissions, blah blah.  So I go to edit fstab, but it doesn't seem to be there.  It's also not mounted to a /media/xxxxx, it is mounted to /tmp/xxxx.  So I can't unmount it. Help?
[05:57] <tau> bdmp_: ok..
[05:57] <bdmp_> tau, especially if it is not working
[05:57] <Coldtoast> oh hey. if I want smp do I still need a smp version of 2.6.15-23? or does 2.6.15-23-686 now encompass smp as well?
[05:57] <yuheng108> can anyone help me to set up my mini web cam?
[05:57] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:57] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[05:58] <AlienX> yuheng108, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras?highlight=%28webcam%29
[05:58] <Coldtoast> ubotu: is captiventfs unsafe?
[05:58] <ubotu> Coldtoast: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:58] <spikeb> !captive
[05:58] <ubotu> it has been said that captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[05:58] <yuheng108> thanks AlienX
[05:58] <AlienX> yuheng108, np
[05:58] <AdmiralCrunch> Coldtoast, writing to NTFS is generally unsafe
[05:58] <Coldtoast> doesn't it?
[05:58] <Coldtoast> it seems to work ok here on Dapper
[05:58] <Coldtoast> when I need it anyway. not often
[05:58] <acke__> Warbo where can i find 1.5 JRE (or bin) once it is installed?
[05:58] <wweasel> dr_willis: that assumes that the drive isn't already mounted.  I know how to do what is explained on that wiki. but the drive is already mounted.
[05:58] <chapium> are/o
[05:58] <spikeb> maybe the factoid is outdated
[05:59] <yurka> hey can someone help me use a packetsniffer?
[05:59] <bdmp_> AdmiralCrunch: he just wants to mount it though, I think. We should warn him about writing though.
[05:59] <planetcall> suggest me your best FileSystem choice for Ubuntu
[05:59] <spikeb> planetcall: ext3
[05:59] <Chihork> any idea if initrd has anything to do with ALSA besides loading the modules?  Any idea how I can mount / take a look at what is inside my initrd file?  I'm having trouble getting ALSA working with my newly configured kernel, and I'm wondering if loading my kernel without an initrd could be the problem.
[05:59] <wweasel> I know that NTFS write support is still alpha.
[05:59] <BlueEagle> coldtoast: I would really, really recomend you get a fat32 partition if you need to write data that needs to be accessible in windows. Either that or get an ext* driver for windows.
[05:59] <planetcall> spikeb, how about xfs ?
[05:59] <chapium> nah
[05:59] <spikeb> planetcall: haven't tried it on ubuntu
[05:59] <chapium> ext3, tried and true
[06:00] <dr_willis> I use those ext drivers for windows :P they work decent
[06:00] <Coldtoast> ubotu: the reason I ask about smp is when I apt-get install linux-686-smp, the it downloads linux-686-smp and limux-image-686, not a smp version of linux-image
[06:00] <ubotu> okay, Coldtoast
[06:00] <planetcall> chapium, I am using ReiserFS and will never use it again for sure !
[06:00] <yuheng108> AlienX I can't find my webcam there
[06:00] <wweasel> coldtoast: ubotu isn't a person.
[06:00] <BlueEagle> chihork: initrd will probably not load alsa drivers. The main purpous of the initrd is to load device driver required to mount the real root file system. ie if you've got SCSI drivers that need to be loaded because your / is on a SCSI disk.
[06:00] <Coldtoast> oh. heh
[06:00] <Coldtoast> ok
[06:00] <BlueEagle> chihork: alsa is loaded very much later than this.
[06:00] <bthornton> what package(s) do I need to install in Dapper to watch DVDs in Totem?
[06:00] <yuheng108> I am using this vimicro 301X, and I am really confuse how to get it working under linux, please
[06:01] <yuheng108> help
[06:01] <bthornton> Or should I use something else to watch DVDs?
[06:01] <chapium> planetcall: i'll remember that, i've been curious about it, but in the end i dont think i notice what file system i'm using
[06:01] <tau> bdmp_: should I manually remove third-party repositories from the sources.list as well as changing breezy to dapper? (update-manager popped up a box saying it did)
[06:01] <Chihork> BlueEagle: then I can rule this one out.  Thanks again.
[06:01] <chapium> planetcall: on desktop anyways
[06:01] <acke__> How do i change screen respolution? in the gui i can only choose up till 1024x800 i need 1400x800??
[06:01] <planetcall> spikeb, chapium any idea how to change Filesystem without reinstalling ?
[06:01] <BlueEagle> chihork: Now what was the trouble with alsa again? Which sound card and so on?
[06:01] <planetcall> reinstall the OS !
[06:01] <Coldtoast> BlueEagle: yeah. I'll probably set my empty RAID up with ext3 instead of using captiventfs
[06:01] <xxx> !listkeys
[06:01] <spikeb> planetcall: you can format the partition
[06:01] <wweasel> Anyone: I am having trouble getting my NTFS partition mounted. It is automatically mounted to /tmp/disks-conf-hda1 on my clean install.  How do I unmount it from there?
[06:01] <gyro_54> totems great for DVD's
[06:01] <spikeb> planetcall: but you will lose your data
[06:01] <cyne> does anyone know if Ubuntu will run on an old colour ibook?
[06:01] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, you can change from ext2 -> ext3 -> ex2
[06:01] <[arcane] > wweasel, umount it
[06:02] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, but i dont think you can do it for other types
[06:02] <planetcall> but how can you format the root partition ? or /boot ?
[06:02] <Coldtoast> I kinda wanted to try reiserfs tho cos most of the data I'll be putting on the raid will be small files
[06:02] <spikeb> planetcall: oh that will screw up your system
[06:02] <Coldtoast> and loads of em
[06:02] <planetcall> yea
[06:02] <intelikey> BlueEagle yes.  but in ubuntu (default kernels)  all root files systems must have initrd to mount them.... no fs support other than cram in the kernel.
[06:02] <spikeb> planetcall: you'd have to reinstall in that case
[06:02] <xxx> !paste
[06:02] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:02] <planetcall> so I am going for reinstall
[06:02] <chapium> cyne: i just installed it on an imac g3 just fine recently, its not an ibook but there is some support for some of these old boat anchor machines
[06:02] <AlienX> yuheng108, it is possible it's not supported
[06:02] <snoops> hey I followed a guide on the ubuntu forums to getting compiz and xgl working.. at one point it said I would lose my title bars, but I could still move windows with alt+click..the titles bars did indeed go, but alt+click didn't work.. so I tried out xgl and compiz.. then wanted to revert back..so I uninstalled everything I installed, plus removed the config files I made
[06:02] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, what filesystems are you switching?
[06:02] <bdmp_> tau, how are you editing the list?
[06:03] <snoops> now I'm back to my normal setup, BUT the title bars are still gone
[06:03] <BlueEagle> intelikey: Thanks. I was not aware of that.
[06:03] <cyne> chapium,.. nice thanks :) got any URLS ?
[06:03] <tau> bdmp_: using gedit
[06:03] <bthornton> gyro_54: it's telling me "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it."
[06:03] <planetcall> pppoe_dude, here peeps are suggesting extfs3........some other friends suggest xfs
[06:03] <chapium> snoops: run metacity --replace
[06:03] <AlienX> bthornton, you need libdvdcss
[06:03] <Coldtoast> but there are no reiserfs drivers for Windows yet afaik
[06:03] <bdmp_> tau, just put # infront of all the 3rd party ones
[06:03] <bthornton> AlienX: Thanks!
[06:03] <tau> bdmp_: I guess I should comment out the dapper backport repositories as well
[06:03] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, from..
[06:03] <[arcane] > bthornton, then look into vlc
[06:03] <planetcall> i will go with extfs3 as I can read it on windows as well if required
[06:03] <bdmp_> for the time being
[06:03] <snoops> brilliant thank you chapium :D
[06:03] <planetcall> pppoe_dude, from reiserfs
[06:03] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, ok
[06:03] <dick-richardson> When I close my laptop lid and open it again, it asks me for a password. How do I turn that off?
[06:03] <Chihork> BlueEagle: CS4281 : Crystal Sound Fusion.  I'm trying to use the low-latency pre-emptible patch, along with a custom-configuration for my kernel.  My sound card worked fine with the kernel provided, but after installing the new kernel, it doesn't work.  I think I'm messing up the IRQ sharing somewheres.
[06:03] <tau> bdmp_: ok
[06:03] <bdmp_> yeah
[06:03] <intelikey> BlueEagle yeah it kinda stinks imo cant even mount ext2 on /dev/hda1  hehhe how weak is that....  ;/
[06:04] <yuheng108> AlienX, but I thought it's possible to get everything to work under linux
[06:04] <redrum> ati drivers are causing random x reboots
[06:04] <[arcane] > yuheng108, yeah you can
[06:04] <bthornton> Uh oh... can I safely assume that since I'm running a 64-bit platform, I will be unable to install libdvdcss without doing a chroot?
[06:04] <[arcane] > yuheng108, just ahve to work at it
[06:04] <BlueEagle> intelikey: Well with the wide variety of filesystems that are availible it is a sound way to keep the kernel size down to a minimum.
[06:04] <AlienX> yuheng108 & [arcane]  only if you write your own drivers...not EVERYTHING is supported.
[06:04] <SurfnKid> redrum, what system do you have
[06:04] <eobanb> bthornton, i think you're fine
[06:04] <planetcall> ok guys !....going for a reinstall. I can afford it because my dapper installation is fairly recent
[06:04] <[arcane] > AlienX, well damn near everything is
[06:05] <[arcane] > dont speak if you dont know
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, good luck
[06:05] <redrum> SurfnKid, AMD64 3000 754 with a Radeon 9550/600
[06:05] <tau> bdmp_: ok, it's started going..
[06:05] <eobanb> bthornton, libdvdcss has been compiled for x64, as far as i know
[06:05] <planetcall> :D ty
[06:05] <gyro_54> bthornton: They work great on mine. Dapper. I will look to see wnat plug ins I have
[06:05] <AlienX> [arcane] , i've been using linux since 1998, i have a bit of a clue :)
[06:05] <[arcane] > and that really means nothinhg
[06:05] <BlueEagle> chihork: Are you compiling the driver as a module?
[06:05] <[arcane] > time means nothing
[06:05] <yuheng108> I am confuse, I just want to get my webcam working, does anyone know how??? it's a vimicro 301x
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> AlienX, [arcane]  no fighting ;)
[06:05] <Chihork> the preemptible one, or the Alsa one?  ALSA is definitely a module.
[06:05] <bdmp_> tau, so finish and then restart. Then you are done. easy huh?
[06:05] <AlienX> pppoe_dude, :)
[06:06] <BlueEagle> chihork: Is it loaded?
[06:06] <intelikey> BlueEagle kernel small initrd large.  initrd.img is over 5m now  they could have included ext# fs support for only a few k of kernel space
[06:06] <[arcane] > pppoe_dude, okey dokey
[06:06] <ToHellWithGA> all yall running 64 bit stuff, is it mostly so you can dual boot and do 64 bit gaming in windows?
[06:06] <tau> bdmp_: well, it hasn't finished yet :p
[06:06] <redrum> SurfnKid,  I can get OpenGL to work OK, I can even get enemy territory to run without chroot n stuff
[06:06] <redrum> ToHellWithGA, wouldnt touch windows x64 with a crane and a pole
[06:06] <Chihork> BlueEagle: sndcore is listed in lsmod, as well as snd-cs4281, so I think I can safely say, yes.
[06:06] <bdmp_> tau, yeah, when it is done
[06:06] <bdmp_> it will take a while
[06:07] <bdmp_> do you have kubuntu installed too?
[06:07] <SurfnKid> redrum, but it just reboots suddenly
[06:07] <ToHellWithGA> redrum: i wouldn't touch windows unless i had to do so anyway, but... what's the point of 64 bit computing for everyday uses?
[06:07] <BlueEagle> chihork: I see. Well then I'm all out of ideas. Perhaps compile support into the kernel instead of putting it in as a module? Might help.
[06:07] <redrum> SurfnKid, its on the exiting of applications mainly, causes x to simply reboot
[06:07] <tau> bdmp_: no, just regular 5.10 breezy, though I did recompile a new kernel
[06:07] <Chihork> BlueEagle: but cat /proc/asound/cards gives "---no soundcards---"
[06:07] <SurfnKid> redrum, I see
[06:07] <redrum> ToHellWithGA, well im running 32 bit windows for gaming, 64 bit linux for everything else - biggest downfall is having an ATi card atm.
[06:07] <intelikey> Chihork the place to look to make sure the card is properly setup is cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:08] <SurfnKid> redrum, where from mate
[06:08] <AlienX> ToHellWithGA, there isn't really a point unless you're doing some intensive video editing or graphics work. That's just my opinion though :)
[06:08] <BlueEagle> intelikey: Isn't initrd unloaded from memory after it's done with?
[06:08] <bdmp_> tau, then maybe an hour. I had both so it took a while
[06:08] <redrum> SurfnKid, Ballarat/Melbourne australia
[06:08] <tau> bdmp_: an hour?!?!  ouch.
[06:08] <ToHellWithGA> AlienX: that's what i was thinking when i made my last PC.  one or two generations old hardware is plenty for me and much cheaper
[06:08] <AlienX> redrum, speaking of redrum...bundy rocks! ;)
[06:08] <SurfnKid> redrum, cold down there hehe
[06:08] <bdmp_> tau, maybe longer
[06:08] <tau> bdmp_: I just hope I don't run out of disk space
[06:08] <bdmp_> you could watch a movie
[06:08] <bdmp_> oh...
[06:09] <redrum> SurfnKid, its like living inside a meat freezer atm
[06:09] <dick-richardson> is anyone familiar with configuring the lid switch? I don't want to enter the pusswrd when I open the laptop lid.
[06:09] <bdmp_> delete anything you can now.
[06:09] <BlueEagle> chihork: and you can mount  your initrd with mount -o loop. You might have to run gunzup on it first if it's packed with gzip.
[06:09] <snoops> chapium yeah that worked a treat, cheers
[06:09] <BlueEagle> chihork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initrd
[06:09] <tau> bdmp_: well, it seems to have gotten further than update-manager did.  I wonder what the problem was?  weird
[06:09] <bdmp_> tau, it must be about 700mb
[06:09] <intelikey> BlueEagle yeah but that doesn't fix the boot issues caused by the initrd.img size.  you can't use loadlin to kick off ubuntu from windows because of the initrd size and the nessecity of loading it.
[06:09] <bdmp_> i had the same problem
[06:09] <Chihork> BlueEagle: yes, I am experimenting with a few ideas.  I'll add that one to the list :).  Thanks for the help.  Ahh, I think I'll check that out.  Initrd is like a blackbox to me right now.  Thanks again.
[06:09] <bdmp_> did you have the most recent update manager?
[06:09] <SurfnKid> redrum, haha, thats a good way to put it
[06:10] <pppoe_dude> dick-richardson, go to System>preferences>powermanagement and choose "when lid is closed - do nothing"
[06:10] <ToHellWithGA> dick-richardson: that's a cool feature... but i could see how it'd be annoying
[06:10] <BlueEagle> intelikey: Ahh, yes. That's a valid point. I didn't even concider that.
[06:10] <guest_amastudent> how do I play MP3?
[06:10] <BlueEagle> chihork: initrd is _supposed_ to be a black box. :)
[06:10] <paradizelost> !mp3
[06:10] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:10] <redrum> that easy ubuntu script do mp3s?
[06:10] <ToHellWithGA> ubotu: tell guest_amastudent about multiverse
[06:11] <tau> bdmp_: well I read a web-page that mentioned the space was particularly need in /var/cache/apt, so I moved that to another drive with about 3.5GBs free, and symlinked to it, and there is 800MB free on / so hopefully it should be ok
[06:11] <bdmp_> guest_amastudent: you need the mp3 codecs
[06:11] <Frogzoo> dick-richardson: or you can disable the passwd on the screensaver -> sys -> prefs -> screensaver
[06:11] <redrum> guest_amastudent,  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:11] <ToHellWithGA> guest_amastudent: once you enable universe and multiverse it gets pretty easy
[06:11] <SurfnKid> pppoe_dude, hey how come i dont have power management, do i enable it in syaptic
[06:11] <redrum> is also some scripts for all that
[06:12] <Chihork> BlueEagle: I see :) well, that could be a problem.  As soon as I figure out I don't need it for sure, I'm sure I'll be rid of it.
[06:12] <dick-richardson> there's no password on the screensaver, dapper is doing something else on lid switch activation. I don't want to disable the display from turning off, I just don't want to type a password when I open the lid - it doesn't make since since I have auto-login enabled
[06:12] <WhatTheDeuce> Hey.  I'm having troubles getting fluxbox to work.  I've installed fluxbox through Synaptic, and I've added the line "exec /usr/bin/fluxbox" to my .xsession file, but when I start fluxbox, I can't really do anything.  The right-click menu doesn't have any items, so I can't even start programs.
[06:13] <Jimmey__> You have to edit the menu yourself.
[06:13] <Jimmey__> !fluxbox
[06:13] <ubotu> fluxbox is probably a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[06:13] <AdmiralCrunch> WhatTheDeuce, edit your menu.rc
[06:13] <Jimmey__> Read the wiki, it's really helpful
[06:13] <pppoe_dude> Whatsisname, did you try starting "fluxbox-session"?
[06:13] <tam> hi all, having a problem with ssh forwarding for mail (im new to it) where abouts am i going wrong with this command: ssh -L 8025:otherserver.com:25
[06:14] <ToHellWithGA> pppoe_dude: shame on you for highlighting the wrong guy
[06:14] <SurfnKid> pppoe_dude, how did you get powermanagement in preferences?
[06:14] <ToHellWithGA> (i did the same thing last night)
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> lol
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> WhatTheDeuce, did you try starting fluxbox-session?
[06:14] <ToHellWithGA> :D
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> ToHellWithGA, both names pretty much same look
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> ToHellWithGA, 'rectangular' with all the caps and all
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, came with ubuntu
[06:15] <SurfnKid> man i dont have that
[06:16] <SurfnKid> actually, that was on here
[06:16] <BlueEagle> tohellwithga: You're not an AO fixer that couldn't find/afford Grid Armor, are you? </ot>
[06:16] <pppoe_dude> ToHellWithGA, and also start with the same letter ;)
[06:16] <SurfnKid> then i installed dapper, and now put back Breezy. but when i initially had Breezy it was available i remember setting that
[06:16] <bdmp_> I did an upgrade and now my network device switched from eth0 to eth1 and I can't get it working. Newtork Settings says it is activated. But I still get nothing. Any suggestions?
[06:17] <ToHellWithGA> BlueEagle: come again?
[06:17] <BlueEagle> tohellwithga: Apperantly not. :)
[06:17] <intelikey> obvioudly not
[06:17] <pppoe_dude> dick-richardson, what i said wont disable the display turning off
[06:17] <intelikey> s
[06:17] <neoxan> s
[06:17] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, openoffice quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... in breezy i only had to check the quickstart box in tools - options, but now there's no text in that box, and it doesn't remember the setting anyway... what could i do?
[06:17] <pppoe_dude> dick-richardson, it will only not 'blank' the screen, thus not starting the screenlock
[06:18] <ToHellWithGA> i'm not privy to your two letter acronym
[06:18] <ToHellWithGA> !AO
[06:18] <pppoe_dude> dick-richardson, the display would still switch off
[06:18] <ubotu> ToHellWithGA: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:18] <SurfnKid> Dapper is taking hours just to boot
[06:18] <SurfnKid> 30 minutes already
[06:18] <pppoe_dude> *should*
[06:18] <ToHellWithGA> neither is ubotu.  doh.  BlueEagle what's ao?
[06:18] <neoxan> 60 minutes for me
[06:18] <neoxan> thats normal
[06:18] <neoxan> :)
[06:18] <pppoe_dude> 45 seconds here
[06:18] <neoxan> everyone else also got 30-60 minutes
[06:18] <satempler> 30 seconds here
[06:19] <intelikey> yeah about one minute
[06:19] <neoxan> haha, funny :/
[06:19] <ToHellWithGA> SurfnKid: minutes?
[06:19] <AlienX> SurfnKid, wow, what kind of system are you running?
[06:19] <ToHellWithGA> AlienX: he has an ENIAC i think
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> 80286
[06:19] <tau> hehe
[06:19] <AlienX> ToHellWithGA, ahhh
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> 64kb ram
[06:19] <intelikey> neoxan i wasn't being funny.  dapper boots in one minute on this box
[06:19] <ToHellWithGA> he's running Ti-85 asm Ubuntu
[06:19] <satempler> ya relly my gf computer boots in about a minute
[06:20] <SurfnKid> First time boot PIII500Mhz
[06:20] <jimjawn> Hey All, First time caller long time listener.
[06:20] <jimjawn> Actually that's not true either.
[06:20] <jimjawn> I'm looking for a quick fix.
[06:20] <AlienX> SurfnKid, that should be plenty of speed
[06:20] <pppoe_dude> jimjawn, no such thing ;)
[06:20] <ToHellWithGA> jimjawn: your fix is ready
[06:20] <AlienX> jimjawn, cocaine? heroin?
[06:20] <jimjawn> Does anyone know what the command for the "show desktop" button is?
[06:20] <tau> bdmp_: well, it seems to have finished downloading..  now to see what happens next..
[06:20] <ray__> i have a question about video...
[06:20] <intelikey> SurfnKid p100mmx  boot in one minute
[06:20] <SurfnKid> AlienX, i can hear it reading the DVD
[06:20] <spikeb> bah
[06:21] <jimjawn> I want to assign it to an xbindkey but I can't figure out what its called
[06:21] <SurfnKid> intelikey, yea but its already installed
[06:21] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid: you're probly swapping like mad - how much mem? dapper really needs at least 256meg
[06:21] <ray__> it seems i can no longer see video played on my computer
[06:21] <SurfnKid> this one is the first time boot
[06:21] <jimjawn> or what command I call
[06:21] <SurfnKid> 128MB
[06:21] <spikeb> hmm
[06:21] <BlueEagle> tohellwithga: AO = anarchy online. massive multiplayer online role playing game. There is a professoin called a fixer that has got access to a special armor called Grid Armor. However this GA is rare and cost 20M-200M credits and many fixers do say ToHellWithGA :) </ot>
[06:21] <ToHellWithGA> jimjawn: ctrl+alt+d
[06:21] <chapium> jimjawn: you should be able to change that using the keyboard prefs in gnome
[06:21] <jimjawn> man and dapper ROCKS R-O-C-K-S!
[06:21] <ray__> i dl'ed (bad bad i know) season one of lost and used to be able to watch it
[06:21] <ray__> now i can't
[06:21] <ToHellWithGA> jimjawn: system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[06:21] <michel> hi all
[06:21] <AngryElf> what command starts the screen saver?
[06:21] <ToHellWithGA> you can even bind something useful, such as "launch a terminal"
[06:21] <jadude> hello.. any Mono Developer here?
[06:21] <pppoe_dude> ray__, did u just install dapper?
[06:22] <AlienX> ray__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28formats%29%7C%28restricted%29
[06:22] <ray__> a few days ago
[06:22] <michel> got a prob: can't go further than gdm. X crashes when trying to login into my account. Can anyone assist?
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> ray__, you probably need to install new codecs
[06:22] <intelikey> AngryElf screens[tab] 
[06:22] <ToHellWithGA> AngryElf: ctrl+alt+l will lock the screen
[06:22] <SurfnKid> Whoa, I can see the Taskbar!! its coming
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> ray__, follow link AlienX gave you
[06:22] <ray__> alienx, i've got automatix and got the restricted codecs
[06:22] <intelikey> or xscreens[tab] 
[06:22] <ToHellWithGA> everyone is asking about keyboard shortcuts
[06:23] <ray__> oh, so that's for new codecs?
[06:23] <ToHellWithGA> i have a feeeling a lot of people come here before actually trying to help themselves
[06:23] <pppoe_dude> ray__, do you get an error message?
[06:23] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell ray__ about automatix
[06:23] <ray__> thanks, pppoe_dude and alienx
[06:23] <AlienX> ray__, np
[06:23] <Frogzoo> ToHellWithGA: b4 even trying google in some cases :-(
[06:23] <ray__> pppoe, no error
[06:23] <jimjawn> thanks guys, but I don't see a "show desktop" option in the keyboard prefs and ctrl+alt+d don't do it
[06:23] <Whoops> automatix is evil
[06:23] <pppoe_dude> ray__, blank screen?
[06:23] <ray__> just a blue video
[06:24] <AlienX> ray__, which apps are you using?
[06:24] <jimjawn> i agree automatix won't leave
[06:24] <ray__> totem
[06:24] <jimjawn> once you put it on
[06:24] <SurfnKid> intelikey, i have a P200MMX pc I dont need, want it? :P
[06:24] <AngryElf> intelikey, i don tknow what you mean
[06:24] <AlienX> ray__, try xine, it handles many more formats much better...or even mplayer
[06:24] <ToHellWithGA> Frogzoo: for serious.  when somebody asks a dumb question (yes they exist) i just retype their question after www.google.com/search?q=
[06:24] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try changing the default output device in system>preferences>multimedia
[06:24] <Frogzoo> how many songs tops in amarok b4 I should move from sql lite to mysql?
[06:24] <NoUse> ray__ did you install totem-xine?
[06:24] <ray__> can you use xine in gnome? i don't even know
[06:24] <intelikey> Frogzoo i always ask here befor trying google.   in fact i never consult google any more.
[06:24] <jadude> Anybody here knows if it is possible for Windows.Forms app to run in Mono on Linux?
[06:24] <pppoe_dude> oops
[06:24] <AlienX> ray__, totem is notorious for being rather picky :)
[06:25] <AlienX> ray__, of course you can...you can use most apps in gnome...or any other wm :)
[06:25] <NoUse> ray__ you can use mplayer or xine in gnome
[06:25] <ToHellWithGA> Frogzoo: how is amarok?
[06:25] <harry> how do i install nvidia drivers
[06:25] <Frogzoo> intelikey: yep, we've notice ;)
[06:25] <intelikey> SurfnKid sure.   but not enough to pay the freight on it.
[06:25] <NoUse> !tell harry about nvidia
[06:25] <jimjawn> actually ctr+alt+l did lock the screen.  Is my show desktop and XGL thing?
[06:25] <Frogzoo> ToHellWithGA: it's just extraordinary - really quite amazing once you get to know it
[06:25] <intelikey> Frogzoo but i never get the answer in here either, hehhe.
[06:25] <pppoe_dude> ray__, you can try 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine; if you wanna keep gnome clean ;)
[06:25] <ray__> i'll install totem-xine if i haven't yet
[06:25] <ToHellWithGA> i've been mostly happy with quod libet except i don't like the lack of flexibility on sorting
[06:25] <jimjawn> ugggh is the show desktop an XGL thing?
[06:26] <SurfnKid> intelikey, hehe was afraid we would get to that point
[06:26] <michel> got a prob: can't go further than gdm. X crashes when trying to login into my account. Can anyone assist?
[06:26] <ToHellWithGA> i should be able to file the soundtrack for "The Royal Tenenbaums" under Royal rather than The
[06:26] <intelikey> SurfnKid :)
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> jimjawn, try running to and see if theres a process running when you keep pressing that button ;)
[06:26] <ray__> okay, i've got it.already newest version
[06:26] <Frogzoo> jimjawn: not at all - xgl is not even installed by default
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> *top
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> ray__, sounds like a problem with your output device.
[06:27] <intelikey> SurfnKid make your self an irc box out of it.   let it be the chat and the one you use now everything else.
[06:27] <ray__> output device?
[06:27] <pppoe_dude> ray__, there was a button for changing that in preferences... but its gone. im looking
[06:27] <jimjawn> actually yes, i completely forgot, I'm running X-bind keys (wanted to get my win key to work for shortcuts)
[06:27] <jimjawn> xbindkeys
[06:27] <jimjawn> that's what's grabbing the keystrokes.
[06:27] <SurfnKid> allright i got my power managemenet preferences back, it wasnt installed
[06:27] <intelikey> SurfnKid just the server install and a cli irc client of your choice
[06:28] <ray__> i feel like the problem started after i followed a tutorial the other night installing k9copy
[06:28] <jimjawn> Basically, i want to config xbindkeys to call the "show desktop" command when I press "win+d"
[06:28] <AlienX> ray__, out of curiosity, what happens if you try to run the videos directly in xine
[06:28] <ray__> but honestly i hadn't watched any lost episodes since i upgraded to dapper, so i don't know
[06:28] <SurfnKid> intelikey, yeah i could do that, its just old, heavy, and bulky, so i might do what you say on this PIII and sell the P200mmx.
[06:28] <pppoe_dude> ray__, do any other videos work?
[06:28] <intelikey> SurfnKid heh then give it to some one that likes to irc....  :)
[06:28] <william__> does anyone know what applications this person is running? http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3822/244/1600/my_desktop.png
[06:28] <ray__> i'm looking in the applications menu and don't see xine
[06:29] <ray__> pppoe, no
[06:29] <pppoe_dude> ray__, run gstreamer-properties from a terminal
[06:29] <jimjawn> willima, that's gdesklets
[06:29] <SurfnKid> intelikey, thats true, i need to find someone, just not in this town, theyre not internet saavy
[06:29] <william__> thanks jimjawn
[06:29] <pppoe_dude> ray__, what doe it say under 'video| output'
[06:29] <ray__> okay, now what?
[06:30] <intelikey> SurfnKid you can still sell a p200mmx ? ! ? ! ? ! ???
[06:30] <ray__> Autodetect
[06:30] <nootrope> i'm using a no-name laptop with Dapper Drake and the Fn key doesn't work. Where can I fix that? Is there a standard key combination to enter international (Latin) characters?
[06:30] <SurfnKid> intelikey, hey man, its worth something! :P
[06:30] <AlienX> intelikey, $1 :)
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try choosing XV and see if anything happens with totem
[06:30] <eobanb> you'd have to pay me to take a pentium mmx
[06:30] <SurfnKid> eobanb, hehe
[06:30] <jimjawn> fun but hoggy IMHO http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[06:30] <AlienX> SurfnKid, you have a giant paperweight :)
[06:30] <jimjawn> whoops my battery is dead.  and I think I'm not online any more.
[06:30] <intelikey> SurfnKid sure it's still worth as much as it was new.  but who will give you anything for it ?
[06:30] <spikeb> jimjawn: i see you
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> ray__, or alternatively, click test
[06:30] <SurfnKid> i'll even throw in an HP 4p Scanner, weighing over 60lbs.  aaaheeem
[06:30] <AlienX> jimjawn, i think you still are online :)
[06:30] <ray__> the only choices i have are autodetect and custom
[06:31] <pppoe_dude> ray__, are you using gstreamer or xine?
[06:31] <SurfnKid> AlienX, nah, thats just nothing compared to the HP scanner, thats a boat anchor
[06:31] <AlienX> SurfnKid, heh, i still have an HP laserjet 4v printer...best printer i've ever owned
[06:31] <SurfnKid> intelikey, I should take it to mexico, :D
[06:31] <intelikey> :)
[06:31] <ray__> i copied/pasted what you gave me
[06:31] <ToHellWithGA> anybody care to join me in #music?  it's dead in there right now
[06:32] <AlienX> SurfnKid, even the mexicans will look at you and tell you to go away heh
[06:32] <SurfnKid> AlienX, yeah they were built better, I just dont know who will buy this big scanner, its the best ive owned
[06:32] <ray__> so... gstreamer
[06:32] <pppoe_dude> ray__, as your engine for totem, are you using gstreamer or xine?
[06:32] <SurfnKid> AlienX,  theyve gotten smart
[06:32] <dick-richardson> pppoe_dude: when I set it to do nothing, it does nothing when the lid switch is shut down
[06:32] <NoUse> ray__ since you isntall totem-xine, you are using xine
[06:32] <ray__> okay for the test video i get the test bars and snow in the bottom right corner
[06:32] <SurfnKid> intelikey, maybe a friend who needs it, that doesnt have a  PC, and do my good deed of the day
[06:33] <pppoe_dude> ray__, do you want to try to switch to gstreamer?
[06:33] <intelikey> there ya go
[06:33] <ray__> sure. can't hurt can it?
[06:33] <pppoe_dude> ray__, "sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer"
[06:33] <AlienX> nope :)
[06:33] <SurfnKid> intelikey, ill be even nicer and throw in ubuntu so they become ANTi-MS
[06:33] <harry> i cant install any of my packages.
[06:33] <Whoops> bbl.........need food
[06:33] <harry> ive just installed ubuntu
[06:34] <AlienX> harry, why?
[06:34] <dick-richardson> i'm on the laptop now...I set the display to do nothing when the lid switch is closed. when I close the lid switch, the display stays active
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> ray__, then "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[06:34] <michel> got a prob: can't go further than gdm. X crashes when trying to login into my account. Can anyone assist?
[06:34] <harry> i dont know, i dont even have the software properties yet
[06:35] <AlienX> harry, do you get an error when you try to install a package?
[06:35] <kurei> hi, my screen disappears after logging off or switching user on ubuntu 6.06, does anyone have a fix for this?
[06:35] <SurfnKid> dick-richardson, maybe the switch is bad?
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> dick-richardson, is your laptop old?
[06:35] <harry> no
[06:35] <dick-richardson> it's a 600m inspiron from dell
[06:35] <ray__> my computer is a dinosaur. it's still working on installing totem-gstreamer
[06:35] <idcard> woo hoo!
[06:35] <harry> AlienX: they just say couldnt find packages
[06:35] <SurfnKid> dick-richardson, whoa thats like mine
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> ray__, lol
[06:35] <idcard> i figured out my boot problem
[06:35] <phrowzen> hey
[06:35] <AlienX> harry, in synaptic?
[06:35] <dick-richardson> the lid switch works when I enable it in power management
[06:35] <phrowzen> does anyone nkow how i might set the minimum # of windows that spawn from a parent application before gnome groups it?
[06:35] <ray__> finally got to the plugins
[06:35] <harry> AlienX: the package i'm trying to install is mplayer
[06:36] <SurfnKid> dick-richardson,  but just stays on when you close it
[06:36] <dick-richardson> I appreciate that, just don't want to type that password in when I opne it again
[06:36] <ray__> done
[06:36] <harry> AlienX: i cant install it
[06:36] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, openoffice quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... in breezy i only had to check the quickstart box in tools - options, but now there's no text in that box, and it doesn't remember the setting anyway... what could i do ?
[06:36] <idcard> now its time to get mythtv running
[06:36] <AlienX> harry, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install mplayer"
[06:36] <AlienX> harry, and tell me what it says
[06:36] <menisk> can can ubutnu breezy take jre
[06:36] <AlienX> menisk, yes
[06:36] <pppoe_dude> ray__, did you install the dirty set?
[06:36] <ray__> pppoe_dude, yes
[06:36] <pppoe_dude> ray__, now try totem
[06:36] <harry> AlienX: E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[06:36] <kurei> hi, my screen disappears after logging off or switching user on ubuntu 6.06, does anyone have a fix for this?
[06:37] <AlienX> harry, do you know how to use vi?
[06:37] <william__> If I start messing with Gdesklets am I gonna regret it like I do when I screw around with my windows desktop?
[06:37] <menisk> AlienX, how do i use a self extracting rpm
[06:37] <spikeb> william__: no
[06:37] <harry> actually this is the second time i reinstalled ubuntu
[06:37] <spikeb> william__: you can just remove the package and delete the config
[06:37] <harry> AlienX: the first time i installed it. someone helped to edit the source.list if i recall it properly
[06:37] <AlienX> menisk, you can't because this isn't an rpm distro. You'll need to use the tar.gz file.
[06:37] <Frogzoo> !tell menisk about java
[06:37] <william__> does it tie itself to anything important spikeb
[06:38] <dick-richardson> So, the lid switch turns the display off when it's enabled, but asks for a password when I open it again. When I disable it, it doesn't turn the display off at all
[06:38] <ray__> now all i get is a black screen
[06:38] <spikeb> william__: as far as i know, no
[06:38] <AlienX> harry, yeah...one sec, i'll give you a nifty link
[06:38] <pppoe_dude> harry, you need to enable the multiverse repositories
[06:38] <Frogzoo> menisk: yes, but the install is a little more complex - see ubotu's pm
[06:38] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, openoffice quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... in breezy i only had to check the quickstart box in tools - options, but now there's no text in that box, and it doesn't remember the setting anyway... what could i do?
[06:38] <pppoe_dude> ray__, is that with lost or any video?
[06:38] <AlienX> harry, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:38] <ray__> lost. it's an avi
[06:38] <menisk> AlienX, I can i use a bin file?
[06:38] <AlienX> menisk, yup
[06:38] <menisk> how do i use it
[06:38] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try another video
[06:39] <harry> pppoe_dude: how do i enable the multiverse repositories
[06:39] <billybennett> haha I just realized I had 2 sessions open of xchat :P
[06:39] <AlienX> menisk, just follow the directions on the java site. you'll have to do something like "chmod a+x *.bin" and then "./*.bin"
[06:39] <dick-richardson> harry: try ubuntuguide.org
[06:39] <pppoe_dude> ray__, also, try "apt-get install gstreamer0.10-sdl" then go back to gstreamer-properties and choose "sdl" as output and see if it helps
[06:39] <santiagokq> AlienX: he can also get java from the official non-free repositories
[06:39] <ray__> pppoe_dude, still black
[06:40] <kurei> hi, how can i return back to my desktop after using ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[06:40] <AlienX> santiagokq, i don't know the process for anything other than dapper so if you can help him with breezy, that'd be great
[06:40] <phrowzen> does anyone nkow how i might set the minimum # of windows that spawn from a parent application before gnome groups it?
[06:40] <pppoe_dude> harry, you can do it either from synaptic (Settings -> repositories), or by removing the '#' sign from infront of lines that say "#deb" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:40] <wweasel> Hey, is anyone here familiar with getting a Logitech MX500 or MX700 to work in ubuntu (thumb buttons)?
[06:40] <pppoe_dude> ray__, that's with sdl as the output device?
[06:40] <ray__> no, just another vid
[06:40] <dick-richardson> just removing the # from in front of the deb designations doesn't enable multiverse
[06:40] <santiagokq> AlienX: he's trying to install sun java on breezy?
[06:40] <eobanb> !buttons
[06:40] <ubotu> eobanb: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:41] <AlienX> santiagokq, correct
[06:41] <dick-richardson> you have to manually add "multiverse" after the universe specifications in dapper
[06:41] <santiagokq> AlienX: ok
[06:41] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try gstreamer0.10-sdl and set it as the output device and see if it helps
[06:41] <intelikey> late
[06:41] <santiagokq> menisk: i don't know if sun java is in the official non-free repos for breezy
[06:41] <ray__> okay installed it, and changed to sdl
[06:41] <santiagokq> menisk: let me check
[06:41] <kurei> hi, how can i return back to my desktop after using ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[06:42] <pppoe_dude> ray__, anything?
[06:42] <AlienX> kurei, just have to log back in through gdm. When you do ctrl + alt +bksp, it restarts the display manager completely.
[06:42] <ray__> nope....
[06:42] <ijeff_> yay imma go hunting for calc apps
[06:42] <ray__> still black :(
[06:42] <wweasel> Hey, is anyone here familiar with getting a Logitech MX500 or MX700 to work in ubuntu (thumb buttons)?
[06:42] <ray__> i can hear it just fine
[06:42] <kurei> AlienX, so i have to reboot?
[06:42] <billybennett> wweasel, I'd like to know that also I have a G5
[06:43] <AlienX> ray__, do you have avifile installed?
[06:43] <AlienX> kurei, nope
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try running totem from the command line and see if it gives any errors
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> ray__, when you play files
[06:43] <ray__> type totem?
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> ray__, yes
[06:43] <santiagokq> menisk: is java 1.4 enough or you *absolutely* need 1.5?
[06:43] <kurei> AlienX, so how do i log back in?
[06:44] <AlienX> kurei, what screen do you see?
[06:44] <menisk> santiagokq, 1.4 will do
[06:44] <wweasel> billybennett: I am working off two different sets of instructions. One is super complicated: http://www.glaurung.demon.co.uk/info/linux.mx500.howto.html The other very simple: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/47579
[06:44] <santiagokq> menisk: great then
[06:44] <harry> AlienX: what do i do with source.list that i just generated???
[06:44] <santiagokq> menisk: java 1.4 is in the official multiverse repositories
[06:44] <wweasel> Billybennett: I am trying the simple one first, obviously :)
[06:44] <billybennett> ooo thank you wweasel I'll bookmark those for later
[06:44] <santiagokq> menisk: do you have the multiverse repos enabled?
[06:44] <kurei> AlienX, the console
[06:44] <pppoe_dude> ray__, do you get any weird messages after you play the file?
[06:44] <pppoe_dude> ray__, in the terminal window
[06:45] <ray__> i need to type totem <path/to/file/filename> don't i
[06:45] <menisk> santiagokq, yes
[06:45] <pppoe_dude> ray__, either that or just totem
[06:45] <billybennett> how would I find out versions of particular things.... for example xorg
[06:45] <santiagokq> menisk: good then search for j2re
[06:45] <harry> AlienX: what command do i use to edit my sources.list using terminal
[06:45] <santiagokq> menisk: you should find blackdown java
[06:45] <kurei> AlienX, no gui... just the console
[06:45] <pppoe_dude> harry, try vim <filename>
[06:45] <kjon> I need to capture a screenshot with a paused video on ubuntu. How can I do that? Everytime I press PrintScreen I get the shot, but with a black box instead the video.
[06:45] <santiagokq> menisk: it's a semi-official package built by third parties, from official sun sources
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> harry, press a to start typing, and press <esc> :wq to save and exit
[06:46] <AlienX> harry, open a terminal and do "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old && vi ~/sources.list" then do "sudo cp ~/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:46] <wweasel> Anyone, how do I exit a man file?
[06:46] <AlienX> harry, one sec and i'll tell you what to do and how to use vi
[06:46] <spikeb> wweasel: press q or escape
[06:46] <ray__> pppoe_dude, yes lot's of errors
[06:46] <TigerWolf> q
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> wweasel, :q
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> ray__, such as...
[06:46] <wweasel> thx :)
[06:46] <cyphase> does anyone know of a dashboard/widgets type thing for linux in the works?
[06:46] <cyphase> besides gdesklets
[06:46] <AlienX> kurei, login as yourself then do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> ray__, can you paste in a pastebin?
[06:46] <cyphase> which kind of sucks
[06:47] <ray__> (totem:27767): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: IA__g_object_get_property: object class `GstSDLVideoSink' has no property named `pixel-aspect-ratio'
[06:47] <ray__> (totem:27767): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_ascii_strcasecmp: assertion `s1 != NULL' failed
[06:47] <kurei> AlienX, thank you
[06:47] <menisk> ray__, are you having trouble setting up pppoe?
[06:47] <ray__> (totem:27767): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_value_fraction_multiply: assertion `G_MAXINT / ABS (d1) >= ABS (d2)' failed
[06:47] <pppoe_dude> ray__, paste them in a pastebin
[06:47] <AlienX> harry, when you are using vi, press the insert key and paste everything into the file then do ":wq" to quit and save. I'm sure there is an easier way to do it but I don't know any of the gui tools to do it
[06:47] <ray__> what's that url again?
[06:47] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell ray about pastebin
[06:47] <TigerWolf> ray__:
[06:47] <pppoe_dude> ray__, and, also, paste everything
[06:47] <luc1fersflowers> Good eve,morn,noon all
[06:47] <TigerWolf> ray__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:48] <SurfnKid> whoa
[06:48] <SurfnKid> i put my hdd to sleep
[06:48] <jojoman02> how to i make my power button shut down my computer?
[06:48] <jojoman02> instead of displaying the shutdown (restart logout etc) menu....
[06:48] <valehru> How can I unrar files in Ubuntu?
[06:48] <SurfnKid> System > Preferences > Power Preferences
[06:49] <luc1fersflowers> Does anyone know how to remove disk icons from ubuntu's desktop
[06:49] <TigerWolf> valehru: You get the rar package
[06:49] <santiagokq> menisk: if you need sun java 1.5, i think it's in dapper multiverse, and if you're on breezy just add the plf repos: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/
[06:49] <AlienX> valehru, check my response in the other channel :)
[06:49] <harry> AlienX: whats the command to use vi
[06:49] <ray__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15436
[06:49] <TigerWolf> valehru: Hold on ill get the command
[06:49] <jojoman02> SurfnKid: that is only for hibernate button, not power button
[06:49] <SurfnKid> mmm
[06:49] <AlienX> harisund, "vi <name of new file>"
[06:49] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, openoffice quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... in breezy i only had to check the quickstart box in tools - options, but now there's no text in that box, and it doesn't remember the setting anyway... what could i do ?
[06:49] <neoxan> nano"
[06:49] <AlienX> harry, ^
[06:49] <Fr0Gs> hey all how do i get multiple sounds to work like i can't listen to music while teamspeak is running etc...
[06:49] <luc1fersflowers> anyone know how to remove disk icons from desktop without unmounting?
[06:49] <harry> AlienX: yep
[06:50] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, I was talking about power button, not hibernate
[06:50] <santiagokq> menisk: are you there?  did you try my suggestions?
[06:50] <harry> AlienX: what command
[06:50] <wweasel> billybennett, are you still around?
[06:50] <AlienX> harry, then you press the "insert" key on your keyboard to insert everything
[06:50] <Fr0Gs> hey all how do i get multiple sounds to work like i can't listen to music while teamspeak is running etc...
[06:50] <valehru> AlienX, better off in here, on x64
[06:50] <TigerWolf> valehru: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_RAR_Archiver_.28rar.29
[06:50] <Where|away> Does anyone know of any good macro recording and playback programs for X? (I tried xmacro, but I couldn't get it to work)
[06:50] <ray__> pppoe_dude, just so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15436
[06:50] <pppoe_dude> ray__, can you try and setting the output to XV again and see if you get any errors?
[06:50] <hollowlife1987> harry: the command is 'vi <filename>'
[06:50] <Toma-> has anyone been able to get Savage running on dapper?
[06:50] <harry> AlienX: i mean the command to launch the VI. coz i dont know what VI is
[06:50] <Where|away> Fr0Gs: do you have esd running?
[06:50] <jojoman02> SurfnKid, i'm saying there is no power button option to change the default action, the only option is to change action for the hibernate button (i am using a desktop, no use there)
[06:50] <valehru> TigerWolf, thanks
[06:50] <TigerWolf> np valehru
[06:50] <neoxan> is there esd in dapper?
[06:50] <AlienX> harry, vi is an editor. one sec
[06:51] <valehru> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[06:51] <cyphase> neovan, yes
[06:51] <valehru> gah
[06:51] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, oh I see, you have 2 buttons
[06:51] <cyphase> neoxan, yes
[06:51] <neoxan> :)
[06:51] <SurfnKid> hdparm is my friend!!
[06:51] <pppoe_dude> harry, vim or vi followed by /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:51] <wweasel> billybennett: I can confirm i got the mouse buttons to work. Don't bother with the complicated thing with Xorg and everything. All it takes is installing imwheel and making a file with the text contained on the bugpage
[06:51] <harry> AlienX: i just pasted the code
[06:51] <AlienX> pppoe_dude, is there a graphical text editor i could tell harry to use in gnome? I think trying to give him a crash course in vi may take some effort
[06:51] <AlienX> harry, in vi?
[06:51] <harry> AlienX: how do i save it
[06:51] <pppoe_dude> AlienX, harry gedit
[06:51] <harry> yes
[06:51] <AlienX> harry, hit "escape" and then type :wq <enter>
[06:51] <ray__> pppoe_dude, it has XWindows (X11/XShm/Xv)
[06:52] <harry> AlienX: yes
[06:52] <ray__> is that the one?
[06:52] <jojoman02> SurfnKid, no i just have my power button, which currently brings up the menu, i want to change that to shutting down directly instead of having it bring up the menu...
[06:52] <pppoe_dude> harry, run sudo gedit from command line
[06:52] <pppoe_dude> ray__, only 2 options are there + custom?
[06:52] <valehru> updating the repos...that might do the trick
[06:52] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, openoffice quickstart feature doesn't work anymore... in breezy i only had to check the quickstart box in tools - options, but now there's no text in that box, and it doesn't remember the setting anyway... what could i do?
[06:52] <pppoe_dude> ray__, yes, try that one first
[06:52] <luc1fersflowers> is there a channel for gde support?
[06:53] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, I thought power management did that
[06:53] <harry> AlienX: nothing happend when i hit enter
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> ray__,  and let me know if you get errors too
[06:53] <harry> AlienX: and the wq press enter also nothing happend
[06:53] <ray__> i get a black screen
[06:53] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, not sure where you can look there are a few power management proggys
[06:53] <iiiears> !channels
[06:53] <ubotu> For a list of Freenode channels try http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[06:53] <jojoman02> SurfnKid, in windows it does, i dunno about kde, but gnome doesnt...
[06:53] <Rajuu> hey guys.. is there any way to change my videos bpp without restarting X? or from within X even?
[06:53] <AlienX> harry, did you press the escape key first?
[06:53] <harry> yes
[06:53] <tau> does anyone know when/if there will be an update to kernel 2.6.15.1 or newer in dapper?
[06:53] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, mm weird
[06:53] <planetcall> hiya pppoe_dude .... system is reinstalling and I am chatting on IRC on same machine ! isnt it incredible
[06:53] <AlienX> hmm...
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> harry, you need a colon before the letters (and make sure you are in action mode by pressing esc
[06:53] <harry> ive run the sudo gedit on the command line
[06:53] <AlienX> harry, try using gedit instead. it's graphical and a bit easier to use :)
[06:53] <hollowlife1987> harry: in the console type 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[06:54] <harry> AlienX: i'm in the gedit now
[06:54] <pppoe_dude> harry, that is probably a better idea, just try "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:54] <pppoe_dude> planetcall, cool
[06:54] <planetcall> ext3fs this time
[06:54] <AlienX> harry, sweet...that should be much easier to use until you learn vi (if you have any aspirations to do so)
[06:54] <Rajuu> hey guys.. is there any way to change my videos bpp without restarting X? or from within X even?
[06:54] <pppoe_dude> ray__, any luck?
[06:54] <armenb> hi
[06:55] <Rajuu> trying to run something in wine and it says it cant switch from 32 bit to 16 bit
[06:55] <jojoman02> SurfnKid, i found it, you gotta you gconf-editor
[06:55] <jojoman02> the key  -  /apps/gnome-power-manager/action_button_power
[06:55] <armenb> what's the "correct" way to upgrade to versions of packages that aren't in my current release?
[06:56] <ray__> pppoe_dude, i can only get the test video to display if i select XWindows (No Xv)
[06:56] <pppoe_dude> armenb, no correct way
[06:56] <armenb> hm.
[06:56] <jojoman02> SurfnKid, funny it doesn't seem to be in the GUI but there is a key for it, i'm gonna file a bug
[06:56] <trace_samples916> Hello
[06:56] <armenb> dapper has a really old version of mythtv
[06:56] <pppoe_dude> ray__, try selecting that and then playing video from command line
[06:56] <pppoe_dude> armenb, you can install it, however it might break other packages
[06:56] <ray__> okay, hold on
[06:56] <jojoman02> armenb, file a bug:P...
[06:57] <armenb> jojoman02 - wait, what? seriously?
[06:57] <trace_samples916> Does anyone know how to config a dhcp connection for terminal?
[06:57] <pppoe_dude> armenb, e.g. if it depends on newer versions of other things..
[06:57] <mjbjr> Rajuu: iirc, any resolution that X has been configured to run in can be accessed via the Ctrl-(Alt?)-Keypad-'+'/'-'
[06:57] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, yeah
[06:57] <AlienX> trace_samples916, what do you mean?
[06:57] <Rajuu> mjbjr: but what about bitrates?
[06:57] <armenb> is there a way to revert back to a previous package installation state?
[06:58] <pppoe_dude> armenb, you can always type 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[06:58] <mjbjr> Rajuu: that bpp's are part of those resolution configs
[06:58] <trace_samples916> AlienX: I uninstall gnome by mistake, now boot to terminal
[06:58] <pppoe_dude> armenb, that will revert the packages needed for ubuntu to be stable again - in case
[06:58] <SurfnKid> jojoman02, what section in gconf is it in
[06:58] <Rajuu> mjbjr: Is there a less hit and miss approach? heh
[06:58] <AlienX> trace_samples916, so you want to get a dhcp lease in terminal?
[06:58] <trace_samples916> AlienX: yes
[06:58] <ray__> pppoe_dude, awesome! that worked
[06:58] <armenb> hm! cool. i'll keep that in mind.
[06:58] <AlienX> trace_samples916, "dhclient <ethx>
[06:58] <Rajuu> mjbjr: I need to actually know what im in too
[06:58] <pppoe_dude> ray__, cool :)
[06:59] <ray__> so what does that mean for me?
[06:59] <pppoe_dude> ray__, just make sure you keep gstreamer setup to use that
[06:59] <AlienX> trace_samples916, err, no quote
[06:59] <ray__> Thanks so much!!!
[06:59] <ray__> wish we had a way to mod folks up
[06:59] <pppoe_dude> ray__, no problem
[06:59] <luc1fersflowers> anyone know how to remove disk icons from desktop without unmounting?
[06:59] <blyloveranger> Is there anything I can do if I accidentally borked one of my ext3 partitions by moving its starting block?
[06:59] <ray__> or give a few karma points
[06:59] <armenb> so i've usually been a debian user.  is "dapper" the new "stable"?
[07:00] <spikeb> armenb: yes
[07:00] <mjbjr> Rajuu: there's nothing hit or miss about it... your X is either config'd for the resolutions you want/need or it's not, in which case you have to reconfigure and restart X.
[07:00] <armenb> is there a "testing" and "unstable" too?
[07:00] <Healot> in ubuntu, nay
[07:00] <Healot> that's Debian's releases
[07:00] <trace_samples916> AlienX: I have a passworded wireless network
[07:00] <trace_samples916> AlienX: will that work?
[07:00] <AlienX> armenb, there is only a testing/unstable (it's not really the same as debian).
[07:00] <AlienX> trace_samples916, yup...here's what you do...
[07:01] <spikeb> testing and unstable are basically the same branch at different times in ubuntu
[07:01] <armenb> does the current test/unstable have a static name?
[07:01] <AlienX> trace_samples916, iwconfig ethX essid <ssid> key <key> && dhclient ethX
[07:01] <AlienX> armenb, edgy
[07:01] <bdmp_> I did an upgrade and now my network device switched from eth0 to eth1 and I can't get it working. Any suggestions?
[07:02] <bdmp_> look at this http://pastebin.ca/63506
[07:02] <armenb> cool.
[07:02] <armenb> do any of you run edgy? :-P
[07:02] <AlienX> armenb, it's not like sid where it's never stable...it's more like mandrake where it's cooker, and when cooker is stable, it's the release. Edgy has only been out for a day or two so no one is really using it yet
[07:02] <tau> bdmp_: uh-oh, it's quit with an error! - Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:02] <armenb> is it fairly "stable", or are there major broken packages every day?
[07:03] <hollowlife1987> armenb: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for edgy, in the topic of that channel it says not to use edgy untill the startup problems are resolved
[07:03] <AlienX> armenb, check what I just said. You can get more information in #ubuntu+1
[07:03] <armenb> HEH. ok if there are startup problems, i probably *definitely* don't want to be using edgy.
[07:03] <planetcall> just a wild question ... does linux offer sytem restore  i.e. switching back to previous system state(s) or to create new system states ?
[07:04] <AlienX> planetcall, not like windows
[07:04] <bdmp_> I don't know. Phrase the question so others can help with the problem
[07:04] <varsendaggr> anyone want to be part of a render farm?
[07:04] <planetcall> AlienX  how exactly then ?
[07:04] <acke_> hey how do i transfer files to another ubuntu computer on my network?
[07:04] <varsendaggr> http://eleaf.no-ip.org/
[07:04] <AlienX> planetcall, actually, not really at all though you can do backups and revert to those.
[07:04] <AlienX> acke_, ssh or ftp are probably your best bets
[07:05] <FunnyLookinHat> acke_, nah, samba is best way...
[07:05] <acke_> alienX are ssh enabled on ubuntu 6.10?
[07:05] <FunnyLookinHat> !samba
[07:05] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[07:05] <acke_> huuh
[07:05] <acke_> ??
[07:05] <tau> Anyone: I was just in the middle of upgrading to Dapper, and got this error -- Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1).  What do I do now??
[07:05] <planetcall> AlienX, i guessed that. It is probably the only feature I found in windows not having any counterpart in linux
[07:05] <AlienX> acke_, apt-get install openssh  (i think)
[07:05] <AlienX> planetcall, there really isn't a reason to do it in linux
[07:05] <drummer87> hey, how can i turn off the popup tooltips in the update-notifier? they're crashing XGL...
[07:06] <AlienX> planetcall, you're not going to get viruses in linux and all your personal files are in your home directory
[07:06] <iiiears> acke - ISSH is i think used by some applictions. aren't they?  was wondering the same thing.
[07:06] <planetcall> hehe true !
[07:06] <drummer87> i remember seeing a setting back using hoary or early breezy, but can't remember, been using dapper too long
[07:06] <iiiears> SSH
[07:06] <Mistiry> Hi...I just installed ubuntu, my question is is it possible to use my wireless ethernet card?
[07:06] <AlienX> Mistiry, yes
[07:07] <AlienX> ubotu, tell Mistiry about wireless
[07:07] <planetcall> I just reinstalled a new OS on this sytem while chatting on IRC :)
[07:07] <raym7> I tried to install ubuntu to dual boot with windows, grub gave an "error 18" because the boot partition wasn't in the first 1024, I restored mbr with Windows fixmbr, but can no longer access the windows partion that was originally split to make room for linux. I tried mounting this partition in ubuntu live cd, but it gives an error saying it is the wrong fs type (yet linux fdisk shows it as NTFS), I can mount my other NTFS partitions.
[07:07] <planetcall> Dapper rocks !
[07:07] <mjbjr> planetcall: you might be able to image the drive with 'dd'
[07:07] <drummer87> planetcall: yes, yes it does
[07:07] <Mistiry> i just requested dapper...im on hedgehog now...old version :(
[07:08] <planetcall> time to reboot to physical disk !
[07:08] <acke_> alienx how do i set up the sshserver?
[07:08] <AlienX> Mistiry, heh, i can't help you with older versions as I don't know anything about them :)
[07:08] <AlienX> acke_, apt-get install openssh-server
[07:08] <pppoe_dude> acke_, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:08] <acke_> alienx ts installed
[07:09] <acke_> Alienx just cant find the man page for it
[07:09] <AlienX> acke_, now you just have to use ssh or scp to transfer files
[07:09] <acke_> alienx so its set up auto?
[07:09] <AlienX> acke_, man ssh  or man scp :)
[07:09] <AlienX> acke_, it should have started the server after the install
[07:09] <acke_> alienx yeah its running thanks
[07:09] <AlienX> acke_, sweet!
[07:10] <AlienX> acke_, are you trying to transfer entire directories or what?
[07:10] <acke_> alienx yes
[07:10] <acke_> alienx no only one fiel
[07:10] <acke_> alienx one file
[07:10] <acke_> alienx so now im on this computer from the other one. how do i put a file here?
[07:11] <AlienX> acke_, ok so what you do is: scp <file> user@host:location at host
[07:11] <raym7> I can mount other ntfs partitions, but not the ntfs one that ubuntu installer resized, I cannot access it under windows, nor mount in in linux, any ideas?
[07:11] <acke_> alienx thanks
[07:11] <farous> acke_: if you need to connect to that other pc frequently usign a gui you can set natilus to do that
[07:11] <AlienX> acke_, ok...from the other computer to yours you do: scp user@host:path/to/remote/file /path/to/local/directory/
[07:12] <snoops> hey - I want to format a pen drive in ubuntu as ntfs can I do that or will I have to use a windows box to format it as ntfs?
[07:12] <Mistiry> ok...ndiswrapper...no idea how to use...but im tired, so i will be back probably tomorrow for help...thank you for a great OS! :)
[07:12] <drummer87> noone knows how to turn those speech-bubble tooltips off?
[07:12] <pppoe_dude> snoops, windows box
[07:12] <snoops> k
[07:12] <AlienX> acke_, definitely take farous's suggestion too. I don't use GUI stuff any more than i have to so his suggestion may be easier for you.
[07:12] <menisk> can ubuntu 5.10 run limewire?
[07:13] <pppoe_dude> menisk, get gtk-gnutella
[07:13] <makko> when i install a package, how do i also automatically uninstall all libs (and other deps) that were necessary only for that package?
[07:13] <makko> when i UNinstall a package, how do i also automatically uninstall all libs (and other deps) that were necessary only for that package?
[07:13] <lwizardl> menisk, yes but i have had issues in the past with that app
[07:13] <pppoe_dude> menisk, it "can" but it's not officially supported
[07:13] <stevekl> makko: apt-get remove --purge blahblah
[07:13] <tau> well, I've now run apt-get -f install, god knows if that's going to totally fry my installation or what
[07:13] <farous> makko: you can use aptitude for installing and when you remove it wil take care of that for you
[07:13] <menisk> pppoe_dude, does it have errors?
[07:14] <makko> farous: aptitude does that automatically??
[07:14] <makko> farous: that'd be cool
[07:14] <pppoe_dude> menisk, i haven't tried it in a while, but gtk-gnutella can do what limewire does and more
[07:14] <farous> makko: it does
[07:14] <tau> not that it seems anyone is listening :(
[07:14] <pppoe_dude> tau, apt-get -f install will tell you what its doing
[07:14] <menisk> pppoe_dude, is gtk-gnutella a package
[07:14] <makko> stevekl: i think --purge only removes config files
[07:14] <SurfnKid> any way to control the laptop fans
[07:14] <SurfnKid> other than lm-sensors
[07:14] <Cornellius> pppoe_dude: I love giFT :)
[07:14] <acke_> alienx thanks
[07:14] <AlienX> acke_, np :)
[07:14] <pppoe_dude> menisk, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[07:15] <SurfnKid> by method of cli to speed up the fan, standby, timeout or slowdown?
[07:15] <makko> farous: what if i use synaptic for installation and aptitude for uninstallation?
[07:15] <stevekl> makko: ohh yeah, you're right. How about deborphan?
[07:15] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, you can try scaling CPU
[07:15] <farous> makko: you have to use it for both
[07:16] <makko> farous: i see... so aptitude is just smarter.
[07:16] <farous> makko: there is a filter in synaptic though that will display unused packages
[07:16] <lwizardl> hi
[07:16] <tau> pppoe_dude: yes, it is, but since the upgrade process quit with an error, I have no idea what it's actually doing.  Most of what it tells you is pretty arcane :p
[07:16] <stevekl> makko: deborphan "finds orphaned libraries" apparently
[07:16] <menisk> thanks pppoe_dude
[07:16] <makko> stevekl: thank you, i will use that one too
[07:16] <tau> I can't say I'm terribly impressed with dapper so far..  :(
[07:16] <bdmp_> what are the commands to call the network up and down?
[07:16] <chennaituxian> tau: why ?
[07:16] <AlienX> tau, what are you having a problem with?
[07:17] <SurfnKid> pppoe_dude, thanks im installing it
[07:17] <bdmp_> I have no network! t
[07:17] <chennaituxian> bdmp_: ifup and ufdown
[07:17] <bdmp_> that is a problem with dapper
[07:17] <makko> farous: i don't find that filter in synaptic
[07:17] <AlienX> bdmp_, ifup ethX ; ifdown ethSX
[07:17] <chennaituxian> ifdown*
[07:17] <AlienX> errr
[07:17] <tau> I'm trying to upgrade to it!  but I seem to be having no end of problems doing so
[07:17] <lwizardl> can someone help me with a couple of things on setting ubuntu linux up as a webserver. should I put hostname as localhost or will this cuase issues with apt-get or something else
[07:17] <makko> farous: does it depend on having installed deborphan?
[07:17] <AlienX> bdmp_, s/ifdown ethSX/ifdown ethX
[07:17] <chennaituxian> tau: throw more light
[07:17] <iiiears> Surfinkid - poke arouind in /etc/init.d the config files there can edit anything in your system. - It makes the Windows registry seem tame by comparision so be conservative. - else a quick google for a fan control app will do it.
[07:17] <farous> tau: give it time. i had the same opinion but now i know it is because i did an upgrade. to many rediments
[07:17] <tau> linux is so damned frustrating, I think I would be better off with a Mac
[07:18] <makko> tau: why is it frustrating?
[07:18] <AlienX> tau, apt-get dist-upgrade...pretty easy
[07:18] <chennaituxian> lwizardl: apt-get apache2
[07:18] <stevekl> lwizardl: Put hostname as localhost where?
[07:18] <farous> makko: never used it. the filter i told you about is in custom bottom
[07:18] <bdmp_> because your network just doesn't work for like hours
[07:18] <AlienX> tau, were you using breezy?
[07:18] <uXp> anyone know how to install winamp on ubuntu?
[07:18] <SurfnKid> tau, um linux? i thought mac was grab-your-dads-gun-and-shoot-yourself kind of frustrating
[07:18] <tau> not so easy when it quits with an error -- Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1).
[07:18] <AlienX> uXp, apt-get install xmms
[07:18] <uXp> besides xmms
[07:18] <_smd_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:18] <AlienX> uXp, winamp is for windows...hence the name
[07:18] <_smd_> oops
[07:18] <uXp> ive seen ppl using winamp on linux
[07:18] <tau> yes, I was using breezy
[07:18] <lwizardl> stevekl, doing system install
[07:19] <uXp> yes i know ^
[07:19] <iiiears> Surfinkid - OSS is the way luke... - grin
[07:19] <chennaituxian> tau: try daper
[07:19] <tau> uhhh, that's what I'm trying to upgrade to!
[07:19] <stevekl> lwizardl: oh...no, that doesn't matter, just name it whatever
[07:19] <AlienX> uXp, i highly doubt you've seen someone use winamp in linux...i guess it's possible though through wine...not sure why you'd want to
[07:19] <uXp> what about wine > winamp?
[07:19] <lwizardl> stevekl, chennaituxian, I'm doing this as a fresh install
[07:19] <farous> tau have you used the update manager
[07:19] <uXp> hmm
[07:19] <stevekl> lwizardl: It won't hurt anything to name it whatever you want
[07:19] <tau> yes, but it quit with some arcane error
[07:19] <chennaituxian> uXp: wine is also good, but xmms is more like winamp
[07:20] <lwizardl> stevekl, ok thanks
[07:20] <uXp> tried it i get some messed up error but ive seen ppl with it
[07:20] <stevekl> tau: if you still get that error even after apt-get update, then there's something wrong with the remove apt server, not on your end
[07:20] <tomsdimension101> hello is anybody there?
[07:20] <tau> *shrug*
[07:20] <chennaituxian> tomsdimension101: we are here
[07:20] <tomsdimension101> does anybody know a good fs to use for a usb 320gb harddrive that is compatible with linux and windows?
[07:21] <trace_sample916> AlienX: hi try to enter the command you gave me and is errors on the dhclient part
[07:21] <tau> it's all greek to me
[07:21] <tomsdimension101> preferably not ntfs
[07:21] <uXp> how do you add the trashcan to your desktop?
[07:21] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, ext3
[07:21] <SurfnKid> iiiears, OSS?
[07:21] <trace_sample916> AlienX: say its unrecognised
[07:21] <iiiears> chennaituxian: Have you tried strewamtuner or even better streamripper >> XMMS? record mp3s to your disk.
[07:21] <x-Dieu> Howdy world :)
[07:21] <tomsdimension101> ppoe_dude, no because i'd have to install the windows driver every time i want to acccess that harddrive on a windoze puter
[07:21] <iiiears> OSS Open Source software.
[07:22] <eNons3nse> having a problem trying to connect a 2nd HD.  its a SATA drive and when I connect the SATA card & drive it hangs at "Mounting Root File System" then eventually says "ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist"
[07:22] <chennaituxian> uXp: add it to ur panel
[07:22] <uXp> i know how to do that i want it on my desktop
[07:22] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, then fat32
[07:22] <SurfnKid> iiiears, oh right, definitely
[07:23] <chennaituxian> uXp: wastebin is also a folder, try to create a sym link
[07:23] <tomsdimension101> ppoe_dude, well fat32 wont work on large harddrives
[07:23] <trace_sample916> AlienX: any ideas?
[07:23] <uXp> how do i do that?
[07:23] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, lol. i suggest ext3 and just installing drivers
[07:23] <SurfnKid> iiiears, ever since ive been on ubuntu im a bit more at peace with myself, i just dont know why, i can breath a bit better when it comes to manipulating hardware
[07:23] <eNons3nse> uXp: there is an option in configuration editor for that i believe.
[07:23] <pppoe_dude> "drivers"
[07:23] <uXp> and that is?
[07:23] <makko> farous: my synaptic / custom / search filter  shows... all the packages available in apt-get
[07:23] <farous> uXp: gconf-editor scroll down to nautilus > desktop and check the trash icon
[07:23] <eNons3nse> uXp: one sec.  let me double check.
[07:24] <iiiears> Surfinkid. - It just feels right. Everyone gives something back to the community.
[07:24] <farous> makko: give me a min i am till i run my super user account
[07:24] <makko> farous: sure, thank you.
[07:25] <trace_sample916> AlienX: hello?
[07:25] <tomsdimension101> pppoe_dude, well some computers are locked out from install applicatons
[07:25] <uXp> ok
[07:25] <eNons3nse> uXp: what he said.  in terminal "gconf-editor" then apps > nautilus > desktop > trash icon visible
[07:25] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, i would partition the harddisk into smaller pieces, then format them with fat32
[07:25] <AlienX> trace_sample916, what exactly did you type i
[07:25] <AlienX> in
[07:25] <farous> makko: if you have synaptic open press the status bottom
[07:26] <farous> below not installed is unused packages
[07:26] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, im not too familiar with fat32, but i would imagine that would work
[07:26] <makko> farous: yes....
[07:26] <iiiears> tomsdimension101: I saw that yesterday. Synaptic couldn't gain access to the file listing.
[07:26] <farous> makko: those are your unused packages
[07:26] <tomsdimension101> pppoe_dude, that defeats the purpose of having a large harddrive
[07:26] <uXp> thanks eNons3nse
[07:26] <trace_sample916> AlienX: i lost the chat my connection went down
[07:26] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, it does?
[07:26] <armenb> blah. this is one instance where debian is better than ubuntu.
[07:26] <eNons3nse> uXp: n/p
[07:26] <AlienX> trace_sample916, yeah but what was the error you got in terminal?
[07:26] <eNons3nse> back to my problem
[07:26] <armenb> a mythtv that isn't ass old.
[07:27] <eNons3nse> having a problem trying to connect a 2nd HD.  its a SATA drive and when I connect the SATA card & drive it hangs at "Mounting Root File System" then eventually says "ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist"
[07:27] <trace_sample916> AlienX: say its unrecognised
[07:27] <pppoe_dude> tomsdimension101, it is generally better to have smaller partitioned harddisks than one huge one
[07:27] <AlienX> trace_sample916, you sure you're specifying the correct device?
[07:27] <trace_sample916> AlienX: say its unrecognised dhclient
[07:27] <AlienX> trace_sample916, oh...you have to do it as sudo
[07:27] <pppoe_dude> imo
[07:28] <trace_sample916> AlienX: i'm in as root
[07:28] <tau> will "apt-get -f install" pick up the pieces of an aborted upgrade, or do I need to restart the upgrade process again?
[07:28] <Madpilot> eNons3nse, a sata drive would be SDA, not HDA
[07:28] <AlienX> trace_sample916, and "dhclient eth0" isn't working?
[07:28] <AlienX> trace_sample916, or eth1 or whatever the device is
[07:28] <trace_sample916> AlienX: nope
[07:28] <_buzz> i'm getting an error from ndiswrapper at line 135........
[07:28] <_buzz> copy("$inf", "$confdir/$driver_name/$driver_name.inf") or die "couldn't copy $inf";
[07:28] <_buzz> any ideas?
[07:28] <AlienX> trace_sample916, you sure your wireless card is setup correctly?
[07:28] <pppoe_dude> tau, you should probably start it againm and it will only install necessary packages
[07:29] <nickrud> tau, you'll need to start again
[07:29] <tau> and what happens if it quits again at the same point??
[07:29] <eNons3nse> Madpilot: i know, hda1 is the primary drive that my OS is installed on.  when i plug in my sata card with the hd attaced for some reason it cant find my hda
[07:29] <farous> tau: nice to clean your /var/cache/apt dir too
[07:29] <nickrud> do the -f install first
[07:29] <farous> sudo aptitude clean
[07:29] <tau> ok
[07:29] <Fr0Gs> is there any fixes for the locking up of ati yet?
[07:30] <trace_sample916> AlienX: yes it says "unrecognised wireless request "dhclient""
[07:30] <redrum> nope Frogs
[07:30] <tau> does that mean I have to download another 650MB again?
[07:30] <Locke> werd
[07:30] <farous> Fr0Gs: when does it lock
[07:30] <pppoe_dude> tau, no need to clean you apt cache
[07:30] <AlienX> trace_sample916, that's bizarre
[07:30] <tau> ok
[07:30] <eNons3nse> Madpilot: but i didn't unplug my primary drive.  just plugged a 2nd drive in.
[07:30] <nickrud> tau, clearing the cach is a last gasp effort
[07:30] <Madpilot> eNons3nse, yikes. My main HD is SATA, it's currently my only HD but it's shared space with ATA drives before with no issues...
[07:30] <farous> Fr0Gs: normally if you run two x sessions
[07:30] <tau> alright
[07:30] <trace_sample916> AlienX: do i type something after it?
[07:30] <farous> nickrud: lol :)
[07:30] <AlienX> trace_sample916, no...what did you type in for your "iwconfig...." command?
[07:31] <trace_sample916> AlienX: eth1
[07:31] <nickrud> farous, I've done it myself ;)
[07:31] <redrum> frogs help me petition ati
[07:31] <eNons3nse> Madpilot: everything worked just fine in breezy
[07:31] <jewcantdenyit> i have a question
[07:31] <AlienX> trace_sample916, so "iwconfig eth1 essid whatevertheidis key longhexkeyhere
[07:31] <jewcantdenyit> i am new to linux and i installed dapper today
[07:31] <Fr0Gs> farous: pm plz
[07:31] <Madpilot> eNons3nse, filed a bug yet?
[07:32] <trace_sample916> AlienX: yes thats what i have
[07:32] <AlienX> jewcantdenyit, lol, great name...just ask your quesiton
[07:32] <jewcantdenyit> and when i try and log out or reboot i jsut get a black screen and nothing happens and i have to hard reboot
[07:32] <redrum> i have a nice crashed x window atm
[07:32] <iiiears> Welcome jewcantdenyit
[07:32] <jewcantdenyit> thank u all
[07:32] <eNons3nse> Madpilot: nope.  how do i do that?
[07:32] <AlienX> trace_sample916, and "dhclient eth1" gives you an error
[07:32] <tau> jewcantdenyit: heh, you've done better than me, I haven't even got that far yet! :p
[07:32] <jewcantdenyit> well good luck
[07:32] <Madpilot> eNons3nse, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[07:32] <Motoko-chan> Having an issue with wpasupplicant and the Intel WPA2200
[07:32] <trace_sample916> AlienX: yes it does
[07:32] <tau> thanks, I think I'll need it
[07:33] <Motoko-chan> Anyone have experience with it?
[07:33] <jewcantdenyit> i was able to load the x enviornment but then cant reboot
[07:33] <jewcantdenyit> everything else works fine
[07:33] <AlienX> trace_sample916, i've never seen that before. I have no idea why it would give you such a command unless the computer didn't recognize your wireless card
[07:33] <AlienX> jewcantdenyit, is it blank when you boot the system too...at least up until you get to the login screen?
[07:33] <jewcantdenyit> no
[07:33] <AlienX> hmm
[07:33] <jewcantdenyit> i see the whole loading process
[07:34] <trace_sample916> AlienX: humm...can you give me the whole command 1 more time?
[07:34] <AlienX> trace_sample916, 'iwconfig eth1 essid "idnamehere" key <key>" && dhclient eth1'
[07:35] <trace_sample916> AlienX: do I have to put the "&&"?
[07:35] <jewcantdenyit> it kinda stinks right now im really happy with everything else so far pretty much just rebooting and loging out is an issue
[07:35] <AlienX> trace_sample916, i just did it so it's easier and runs both commands at once...you don't have to
[07:35] <pppoe_dude> jewcantdenyit, can you paste /var/log/syslog in a pastebin?
[07:35] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell jewcantdenyit about pastebin
[07:35] <ChakRa> noapic acpi=off, so how do i go about doing this guys ??
[07:35] <jewcantdenyit> i dunno how to do that
[07:36] <ChakRa> ~__~
[07:36] <AlienX> trace_sample916, send me the full command of what you're typing in
[07:36] <nickrud> jewcantdenyit, gedit /var/log/syslog, and go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ . cut and paste to the website & give us the link
[07:36] <bdmp> I can not connect to my network after upgrade to dapper. Help. I also had that power go out (well after the upgrade) maybe that is the cause.
[07:36] <SurfnKid> 1hour into dapper install
[07:36] <jewcantdenyit> ok
[07:37] <trace_sample916> AlienX: I think the "&&" worked
[07:37] <iiiears> ChakRa: nickrud  Do you add something like that to bootmisc.sh?
[07:37] <AlienX> trace_sample916, hmm, shouldn't have made a difference but cool :)
[07:37] <nickrud> iiiears, ChakRa in dapper you add it to /etc/rc.local
[07:37] <AlienX> trace_sample916, does "iwconfig" say anything insightful to you?
[07:38] <jewcantdenyit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15437
[07:38] <nickrud> otherwise bootmisc.sh or create an init script of your own.
[07:38] <Locke> are wine and eterm available as ubuntu packages
[07:38] <trace_sample916> AlienX: hummm it scaned for a ip address and failed
[07:38] <nanenj> Is there a way to get a list of installed packages?  (Especially the most recently installed?)
[07:38] <trace_sample916> *scanned
[07:38] <ChakRa> ok i got that part but how do i do that while i am in bios of before its loaded?
[07:38] <AlienX> trace_sample916, hmm, is it possible you entered in your wep key incorrectly?
[07:38] <trace_sample916> AlienX: 1 sec will retype
[07:39] <nickrud> ChakRa, ah, that's a grub thing. I've never really looked into it since I've been blessed with extremely generic hardware
[07:39] <Motoko-chan> hm
[07:39] <ChakRa> nickrud, ic. Somone told me to reboot couple of times and it will work
[07:40] <Motoko-chan> wpasupplicant using ipw doesn't work, wext doesn't have errors, but I can't connect.
[07:40] <Motoko-chan> Any ideas?
[07:40] <Self> mysql question: what is the default password?  I just installed (then uninstalled and reinstalled) mysql and no l/p works
[07:40] <Motoko-chan> Self, try no password
[07:40] <trace_sample916> AlienX: lol THAT was it TYVM!!!!
[07:40] <Self> Motoko: doesnt work neither :|
[07:41] <AlienX> trace_sample916, no problem...good luck :)
[07:41] <mjbjr> I'm looking to buy a new system that just plain works with the latest ubuntu... any _recommendations_ ?
[07:41] <Motoko-chan> You can do the reload without priv tables thing.
[07:42] <Self> by default what does mysql makes for admin? (root with ni password?)
[07:42] <Motoko-chan> The default packages from mysql directly use no password
[07:42] <Self> and root as login?
[07:42] <Motoko-chan> Dunno what ubuntu uses
[07:42] <Motoko-chan> yes
[07:42] <Fujitsu> Motoko-chan, no password.
[07:42] <anil123> which is better Dapper or breezy
[07:43] <SurfnKid> brb
[07:43] <ishit> neone any program for dapper for runnin tv tuner cards
[07:43] <Motoko-chan> Dapper is newer, but not much docs on it yet
[07:43] <iiiears> mjbr - Get a machine preloaded with linux. maybe? (I have been looking at Lenovo laptops.)
[07:43] <Motoko-chan> Breezy is a bit older.
[07:43] <Motoko-chan> Both seem quite stable.
[07:43] <Self> humm, and is there a way to reset the mysql root password (loosing all tables is not a problem)
[07:43] <nickrud> ChakRa. I'd like to offer some help for this but I'm no grub expert and grub is what boots your computer. I think I'll go hands off on this one
[07:43] <Frogzoo> anil123: dapper is my preference - all the s/w's up to date (ish)
[07:43] <aaron_> ok so I am a day old in linux... so please no harsh comments. I'm just trying to learn...
[07:43] <aaron_> how do I install a deb file?
[07:43] <tau> ishit: You could try Kaffeine
[07:43] <jewcantdenyit> i do not want to spam the chat, but is it possible for some1 to give me some assistance on why when i try to log out or reboot it just goes to a black screen and i have to hard reboot, thank you all very much
[07:44] <Frogzoo> !tell aaron_ about docs
[07:44] <mjbjr> iiiears: yeah, I've been looking... need a desktop
[07:44] <Frogzoo> !deb
[07:44] <Madpilot> aaron_, cool, welcome to Ubuntu. What are you trying to install? (which app?)
[07:44] <tau> ishit: I've tried installing mythtv, but just couldn't figure the thing out, too darned complicated
[07:44] <ishit> tau: can i capture with that
[07:44] <aaron_> I'm trying to install aMSN Madpilot
[07:44] <Frogzoo> !tell aaron_ about deb
[07:44] <nanenj> aaron, sudo dpkg -i package.deb  (replace package.deb with the filename)
[07:44] <Madpilot> aaron_, use Gaim, it does MSN IM stuff
[07:44] <tau> ishit: yes, but it's more for watching live tv, but yes you can
[07:45] <ChefWill> anyone know if its possible to get the totem xine plugin for ff15 support scrolling/fast forwarding of videos
[07:45] <Madpilot> ishit, care to change your nick to something less juvenile, please?
[07:45] <ishit> tau: cool. n can i use a composite
[07:45] <tau> ishit: as for myself, I use dvbstream, which is a command line program
[07:45] <nickrud> jewcantdenyit, the /var/log/syslog you gave was suprisingly short.
[07:45] <jewcantdenyit> thats what it gave me
[07:45] <ishit> madpilot: hey bastard relax thats my name
[07:45] <Frogzoo> jewcantdenyit: df -h /var
[07:45] <bdmp> uh oh
[07:46] <Madpilot> ishit, last warning. Change the nick & be polite, or leave.
[07:46] <nanenj> aaron_, good luck btw :).  I'm learning myself, being buggered silly by the fact I can't seem to figure out how to list installed packages :P  you'd think it'd be an important function that almost every 'newbie' page would have on it :P
[07:46] <anil123> when I get Daper cds in India
[07:46] <anil123> when I get Daper cds in India, Pune
[07:46] <jewcantdenyit> type that in the terminal?
[07:46] <ishit> tau: how do i use dvbstream
[07:46] <Frogzoo> jewcantdenyit: yes - oh and what
[07:46] <Frogzoo> what's that nicik about?
[07:46] <aaron_> haha glad someone is feelin me nanenj
[07:46] <tau> ishit: I'm sorry, I don't know too much about whether you can use a composite, I generally just watch tv on my monitor
[07:46] <Motoko-chan> nanenj, synaptic will show them
[07:46] <ishit> madpilot: wat u gonna do motherfucker
[07:46] <jewcantdenyit> frogzoo, typed in that and it didnt work
[07:47] <bdmp> ha
[07:47] <ishit> tau:kk
[07:47] <jewcantdenyit> said invalid option
[07:47] <nickrud> ishit, he'll ban you if needed.
[07:47] <nanenj> Motoko-chan, it shows me a list of all packages... mixed together.
[07:47] <tau> ishit: well, there are some pages on the web that explain how to use it
[07:47] <bdmp> ishit, leave
[07:47] <vinboy> hi
[07:47] <bdmp> no one likes you
[07:47] <nickrud> too late :)
[07:47] <Madpilot> nickrud, you read my mind
[07:47] <Madpilot> :)
[07:47] <vinboy> currently I'm using GRUB fr dual boot (XP, ubuntu)
[07:47] <Motoko-chan> nanenj, you can see what are installed by the icon on the left
[07:47] <nanenj> I'm trying to find a list of -just- what I've installed, specifically what I did in a rampage of installing junk about 20 minutes ago :)
[07:47] <vinboy> but I'm going to reinstall XP, which it will replce grub
[07:47] <Motoko-chan> hm
[07:47] <pppoe_dude> jewcantdenyit, whats the link again
[07:47] <vinboy> how do I reinstall grub later?
[07:47] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell vinboy about grub
[07:47] <nanenj> right... but it's mixed all together with a gabillion other packages, there's not a way to view just the isntalled packages alone, is there?
[07:47] <Frogzoo> ask a silly question (ishit)
[07:47] <Motoko-chan> I'm sure it is listed somewhere, dunno where though directly.
[07:47] <Madpilot> nanenj, doesn't Synaptic have a function to list all installed packages?
[07:47] <Fujitsu> vinboy, see the link from ubotu.
[07:47] <tau> uh, hey mods, what did ishit do wrong?  he seemed fairly amiable to me ?!
[07:47] <vinboy> thank Fujitsu
[07:48] <nanenj> Madpilot, One webpage referenced that but, I can't find that option.
[07:48] <Frogzoo> tau: yes - enquiring minds want to know....
[07:48] <Motoko-chan> tau, offensive name and using profanity
[07:48] <jughead_> yeah that is an offensive name
[07:48] <Madpilot> tau, what Motoko-chan said...
[07:48] <tau> offensive name??  it sounds asian to me
[07:48] <bdmp> not only profanity, but profanity aimed at people
[07:48] <nanenj> OOooh! I found it :D
[07:48] <nanenj> Thanks :)
[07:48] <nanenj> there's a search filter thing you can edit what it displays :)
[07:48] <bdmp> then he should have said its asian, not what are you gonna do mf
[07:48] <Motoko-chan> Anyway, any experts with wpasupplicant?
[07:49] <pppoe_dude> + ignoring wrning
[07:49] <nickrud> rational response not provided, with accelerated language ;)
[07:49] <Frogzoo> i could car less about 'ishit' as a name - but 'jewcantdenyit' leaves me with reservations
[07:49] <tau> he said it was his real name
[07:49] <bdmp> ha
[07:49] <bdmp> no he said thats my name
[07:49] <Healot> weird, i've been setting up a lot of wifi networks, but never actually use it personally
[07:49] <jewcantdenyit> if my name is offensive to some no problem changing it
[07:49] <bdmp> not my realname
[07:49] <Motoko-chan> He also was agressive and used profanity when asked about it.
[07:49] <tau> hands up all who found it offensive?  I certainly didn't
[07:50] <bdmp> exactly
[07:50] <bdmp> thanks mokoto-chan
[07:50] <Motoko-chan> I think the profanity was what pushed it over
[07:50] <Healot> ishit
[07:50] <Healot> nice
[07:50] <Motoko-chan> And now can this be dropped?
[07:50] <Healot> i-shit looks better
[07:50] <Madpilot> tau, even if it was his real name, his response when I asked him to change it was uncalled for
[07:50] <tau> he was only aggressive when someone harrassed him for his name
[07:50] <nickrud> I did, tau but the profanity is forbidden here because kids re always around
[07:50] <tau> okay
[07:50] <Motoko-chan> I'm sure there is someone who needs help.
[07:50] <pppoe_dude> i agree with Motoko-chan
[07:50] <dragoon`> hey guys has anyone got stepmania working on dapper
[07:50] <mjbjr> and if it is his real name... then what
[07:51] <bdmp> i need help!
[07:51] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, yes.
[07:51] <bdmp> my network is gone
[07:51] <dragoon`> i keep getting ./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:51] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, what's wrong?
[07:51] <Motoko-chan> mjbjr, then he can calmly discuss the issue.
[07:51] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[07:51] <dragoon`> and the lib is there
[07:51] <Fujitsu> !find libvorbisfile.so
[07:51] <nanenj> Whee, well, that mostly answers that :) just too bad there's not a sort-by-date kind of thing :P
[07:51] <Madpilot> mjbjr, then he could have said so. Now, let's drop the issue, OK?
[07:51] <Frogzoo> oh please - "ishit" as a real name? from someone asking "whachagonnadoboutitmofo" - really...
[07:51] <Motoko-chan> nanenj, this is why one keeps logs.
[07:51] <dragoon`> /lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[07:51] <dragoon`> /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[07:51] <nanenj> hrm... why when I maximize things are they covering my gnomepanels now x.x;
[07:52] <dragoon`> its there :|
[07:52] <nanenj> Motoko-chan, how would I go about doing that?  logging isn't exactly covered for newbies either :P
[07:52] <Frogzoo> so jewcantdenyit, what's with the nick?
[07:52] <Motoko-chan> Well, you get a pad of paper and a pen or pencil.
[07:52] <nanenj> oh! that kind of log ;p
[07:52] <jewcantdenyit> my friend came up with it one day when that fabolous song was hot
[07:52] <Motoko-chan> Then you take notes when you make a change.
[07:52] <jewcantdenyit> we found it amusing cuz i am jewish
[07:52] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: any ideas ?
[07:52] <Motoko-chan> ^_^
[07:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libvorbisfile.so' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so) in libdevel/libvorbis-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libvorbisfile.so.3|libvorbisfile.so.3.1.1}) in libs/libvorbisfile3.
[07:53] <bdmp> Mokoto-chan, you live in Japan?
[07:53] <nanenj> Here's maybe a good question (as I'm looking to fix the covering gnome panels) where'd configuration manager disappear to in dapper?
[07:53] <nanenj> in breezy it was under system tools
[07:53] <Frogzoo> jewcantdenyit: funny in context, maybe, but in an open irc chan. maybe not such a great plan
[07:53] <nickrud> nick choice is off topic (I'll be clad to explain why I dropped the e)
[07:53] <jewcantdenyit> like i said i can change it without a problem last thing i want to do is offend
[07:53] <dallgood> can gnomebaker burn mp3s?
[07:53] <jewcantdenyit> is there a way to change nick without logging out
[07:53] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: you there
[07:53] <Madpilot> nanenj, it's there, but the menu entry is hidden.
[07:53] <pppoe_dude> jewcantdenyit, /nicl
[07:53] <dallgood> er convert mp3s to wav before burning
[07:54] <Madpilot> jewcantdenyit, /nick newnick
[07:54] <Frogzoo> jewcantdenyit: /nick newnik
[07:54] <pppoe_dude> jewcantdenyit, /nick <new nick>
[07:54] <Madpilot> heh
[07:54] <Motoko-chan> jewcantdenyit, please change your nick.
[07:54] <tau> I wonder if Apu would be just as welcome here
[07:54] <Motoko-chan> Thanks.
[07:54] <nanenj> Madpilot so... I can get it back through menu-edit thinger? (dunno what it's called, just how to bring it up :P)
[07:54] <jughead_> this may sound noobish, but how do you take a screenshot in gnome?
[07:54] <Madpilot> nanenj, yes
[07:54] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, I'm back now...
[07:54] <jughead_> I'm used to ksnapshot in KDE
[07:54] <Madpilot> jughead_, hit the Print Screen key
[07:54] <pppoe_dude> jughead_, printscr button
[07:54] <jughead_> k thz
[07:54] <nanenj> Thankies once again :)
[07:54] <Motoko-chan> jughead_, there should also be a screenshot app too.
[07:54] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, can you run:
[07:55] <Motoko-chan> Dunno if it is there by default
[07:55] <makko> what is the irc nick of seb128?
[07:55] <makko> nickrud: what is the irc nick of seb128?
[07:55] <_smd_> is there a better thing that gtk-guntella i can use?
[07:55] <dragoon`> run....
[07:55] <LeeJunFan> oh it's on now. hehe
[07:55] <pppoe_dude> _smd_, whats wrong with gtk-gnutella?
[07:55] <tau> eep, well apt-get -f install finished!  now, to try apt-get dist-upgrade once again :p
[07:55] <Healot> what's with the Asian theme
[07:56] <Healot> I wish ubuntu has one
[07:56] <pppoe_dude> _smd_, you can try mutella
[07:56] <Motoko-chan> Healot, gnome-look site
[07:56] <_smd_> just hits on things. that is all/.
[07:56] <nickrud> makko, possibly that? Is it a trick question?
[07:56] <pppoe_dude> _smd_, but mutella is command line based, so im not sure what you're looking for
[07:56] <makko> nickrud: what?
[07:56] <alex1> well i have another question, i have been trying to configure amarok and i installed the gstreamer packages, but the gstreamer engine still does not appear in amarok and it does not play songs using xine but mp3s do play in rhythmbox
[07:56] <makko> nickrud: why?
[07:56] <Healot> i know about the themes
[07:56] <makko> nickrud: don't say you are seb128!!??
[07:56] <nickrud> or, I've only had email contact with him, not irc
[07:56] <Frogzoo> alex1: "df -h /var"  gives errors? that doesn't sound so good, 2nd check pls
[07:57] <Blaskowitz> hi, i'm trying to intall ubuntu on a seperate HD but both HDs are the same model, in the partition menu it has SCSI1 (sda) and SCSI2 (sdb), is the 2 in SCS13 an indication that it is the secondary drive? (the second SATA plug)?
[07:57] <_smd_> I do not mind command line at all
[07:57] <LeeJunFan> alex1: you install amarok-gstreamer as well?
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> _smd_, try mutella then
[07:57] <Blaskowitz> SCS12*
[07:57] <alex1> i didnt see it in their
[07:57] <_smd_> Thanks
[07:57] <tau> I've got the same error again!  It seems the problem is in package perl-tk
[07:58] <makko> nickrud: oh, you mean he has no irc nick?
[07:58] <LeeJunFan> alex1: personally I've had nothing but bad luck with gstreamer, and xine works fine for me. To play mp3's with xine engine you need to install libxine-extracodecs
[07:58] <nanenj> hrm... maybe restarting gnome will fix that... can't seem to find anything wrong :|
[07:58] <tau> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:58] <Frogzoo> alex1: just paste the last line returned from that command ^
[07:58] <alex1> ok
[07:58] <alex1> df: invalid option -- /
[07:58] <pppoe_dude> alex1, if you install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 it will play mp3
[07:59] <nickrud> makko, no, I assume he might use more than one since he's a target. Hence the trick question question.
[07:59] <Frogzoo> alex1: wtf?
[07:59] <alex1> thanks ill try this out
[07:59] <nanenj> Yep, that fixed the things covering the panels :) yay for using windows thinking on linux.
[07:59] <nanenj> If it's broke, restart! :D
[07:59] <alex1> i do not know
[07:59] <Frogzoo> alex1: just cut & paste the command into a terminal - you're misreading it for sure
[07:59] <makko> nickrud: isn't sabdfl a target too?
[07:59] <alex1> should i put in quotes?
[07:59] <alex1> frogzoo: can u send the command again please
[08:00] <Frogzoo> alex1: without quotes "df -h /var"
[08:00] <LeeJunFan> nanenj: bah, never restart unless booting with a new kernel :)
[08:00] <trace_sample916> AlienX:do you know how to install oss sound?
[08:00] <nickrud> makko, and I would understand his use of another alias now and then.
[08:00] <pppoe_dude> nanenj, you can usually restart X for these kinds of problems, and if worst comes to worst init 2 ctrl+d
[08:00] <alex1> frogzoo: yea i didnt ahve a space
[08:00] <Madpilot> makko, could you take the chat about irc nicks to #ubuntu-offtopic, please? Thanks
[08:00] <Motoko-chan> pppoe_dude, Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[08:00] <Motoko-chan> That will restart X
[08:00] <Frogzoo> alex1: there ya go
[08:00] <nanenj> I meant just restarting the xserver :)
[08:00] <AlienX> trace_sample916, look for a package called alsa-oss or something along those lines...i don't remember the specific name
[08:00] <alex1> frogzoo: it just tells me the space i have available on the partition
[08:00] <nanenj> Actually... during multiple restarts (I've done a few while dinking and killing settings)
[08:00] <billybennett> hey guys, I'm having trouble shutting down my laptop. When I hit shutdown it turns off the screen but everything else is still running and I have to manually hold the button down to shut it off... any ideas?
[08:00] <trace_sample916> AlienX:ty
[08:00] <pppoe_dude> Motoko-chan, no that will kill X
[08:00] <makko> Madpilot: why?
[08:01] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: you still alive ?
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> Motoko-chan, and restart gdm
[08:01] <nanenj> My Gnome Session seems to slowly creep upwards in VTs.
[08:01] <AlienX> trace_sample916, it's actually called alsa-oss :)
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> ;)
[08:01] <nanenj> I swear I started n VT7, and now I'm on VT9
[08:01] <Frogzoo> alex1: right - just needed to check you had free space - (typical reason for short logs, uc)
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> alex1,
[08:01] <alex1> only 8% full
[08:01] <alex1> yes pppoe
[08:01] <Madpilot> makko, because it's not really ontopic for a tech support channel, but anything goes in -offtopic (within reason...)
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> alex1, "sudo apt-get install xclip"
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> alex1, "xclip -i /var/log/syslog"
[08:02] <nanenj> Maybe I should kill the VTAutoAllocation setting :|
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> alex1, then go to pastebin and press middle mouse button (or two buttons together)
[08:02] <tau> could someone help me out here please?  it appears as though I have one package left to upgrade in my dapper upgrade - perl-tk, but it's giving me this confusing error
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> alex1, and give me link coz i cant find last like
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> *link
[08:02] <nickrud> tau, could you put that error on the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , that's promising :)
[08:02] <alex1> nothing happened
[08:02] <AlienX> tau, and that error is?
[08:03] <tau> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:03] <pppoe_dude> alex1, thats fine
[08:03] <pppoe_dude> alex1, go to pastebin then press middle button inside textbox
[08:03] <nanenj> Oh well, I'll save it for tomorrow.  Thank you Madpilot, Motoko, et all. :)  You're a wonderful help.
[08:03] <AlienX> alright, i'm going to sleep. night all
[08:03] <Madpilot> nanenj, you're welcome. Good luck
[08:03] <nanenj> Hopefully eventually I'll learn enough to be as helpful :)
[08:03] <alex1> pppoe: huh?
[08:03] <nanenj> Night night all :)
[08:03] <tau> some other lines before that said: Unpacking replacement perl-tk ...
[08:03] <alex1> im not sure what u want me to copy
[08:03] <tau> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-tk_1%3a804.027-2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[08:04] <tau> trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/perl5/auto/Tk/PNG/PNG.so', which is also in package libtk-png-perl
[08:04] <tau> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[08:04] <pppoe_dude> alex1, xclip copies the log to clip board, all you need to do is press the middle mouse button (or both buttons of the mouse) into a text box to past
[08:04] <alex1> ah, ok thanks
[08:04] <pppoe_dude> alex1, just incase you didnt copy the whole thing
[08:04] <valehru> is ther a minimize function for xchat to the system tray in gnome?
[08:05] <nickrud> tau, then you seem to have conflicting repositories, do you have any non-ubuntu archives active?
[08:05] <alex1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15438
[08:05] <mjbjr> click on the '_' in the upper corner
[08:05] <valehru> mjbjr, to the system tray
[08:05] <tau> nickrud: let me check
[08:05] <valehru> mjbjr, not to the task bar
[08:05] <mjbjr> ah
[08:05] <pppoe_dude> alex1, this is very short for a syslog...
[08:06] <valehru> much like the one they have for mirc
[08:06] <alex1> what could be a reason for this
[08:06] <alex1> i jsut installed this today
[08:06] <mjbjr> wtf is the system tray anyhow?
[08:06] <alex1> i have the 64bit version
[08:06] <pppoe_dude> alex1, can you do the same for xclip -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:06] <tau> nickrud: the only repositories active in my sources.list are my local ubuntu mirror, and archive.ubuntu.com - unless those two are conflicting with each other?
[08:06] <alex1> ok one second
[08:07] <Fujitsu> ls -l /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[08:07] <Fujitsu> seb128, makko.
[08:07] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, ls -l /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[08:07] <nickrud> tau, could you put your sources on the pastebin?
[08:07] <Fujitsu> makko, his nick is seb128.
[08:07] <Fujitsu> Blaskowitz, yes.
[08:07] <dragoon`> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2006-06-10 15:09 /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3 -> /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3.1.1
[08:07] <valehru> mjbjr, if you use gaim or azareus then you can minimize to the systray beside the clock...
[08:07] <Fujitsu> makko, it's seb128!!
[08:07] <valehru> a small icon beside the clock
[08:07] <alex1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15439
[08:07] <Fujitsu> A target, nickrud!?
[08:07] <Blaskowitz> ok, thanks Fujitsu :)
[08:07] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, yes...
[08:08] <tau> nickrud: how do i do that?  I take it pastebin is the site I just got the link to?
[08:08] <nickrud> If he showed here, I have all kinds of irrelevant questions :)
[08:08] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, I asked you for the output of a command.
[08:08] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: that was the output
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> hmm
[08:08] <nickrud> tau, yes. gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, then cut and paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:08] <Fujitsu> That's /insanely/ shortl.
[08:08] <Fujitsu> *short.
[08:08] <nootrope> where does ubuntu keep user profile information such as preferences for applications? is there a standard place?
[08:08] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: you have a very hugh ping
[08:08] <nickrud> copy & paste I mean tam
[08:08] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, can you please check that /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3.1.1 exists?
[08:09] <nickrud> errpast98, tau ^^
[08:09] <mjbjr> valehru: what does that get you that the task bar doesn't?
[08:09] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: it does
[08:09] <alex1> ppoe: when i set up x envoirnment i selected to load all the choices, could that be part of problem
[08:09] <Madpilot> nootrope, in dot-files - hidden in your home directory.
[08:09] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, can you please remove and reinstall all packages starting with libvorbisfile?
[08:09] <nootrope> MadPilot: Ah! no wonder... thanks!
[08:09] <Madpilot> nootrope, in the file manager, hit Ctrl+H to see them (same again to hid them again)
[08:09] <nootrope> thanx, madPilot
[08:09] <valehru> it minimizes the application to a single icon, and not to a large box on the task bar...
[08:09] <valehru> optimizes space
[08:09] <tau> nickrud: errpast98??  what's that?
[08:10] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: ok, doing that now
[08:10] <iiiears> valehru:  - open it on another desktop then click on that?
[08:10] <dragoon`> done
[08:10] <nickrud> tau, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ is a place you can put up text for all to see. We use it here a lot.
[08:10] <valehru> iiiears, no...no...no
[08:11] <valehru> :)
[08:11] <tau> nickrud: what name should I put in the name box?
[08:11] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: still the same error
[08:11] <nickrud> yours is normal
[08:11] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, that's very strange.
[08:11] <pppoe_dude> alex1, your last paste doesnt seem right... in any case, try this see if it works fine **this will restart your computer**
[08:11] <nickrud> tau, I mean you nick here, that is
[08:11] <tau> nickrud: ok, I've posted it
[08:11] <alex1> ok
[08:11] <tau> nickrud: hey, that's a pretty cool resource :)
[08:11] <dragoon`> Fujitsu: any idea whats wrong ?
[08:12] <pppoe_dude> alex1, from a terminal type "sudo killall X && sudo init 0"
[08:12] <pppoe_dude> alex1, see if it hangs or not
[08:12] <Fujitsu> dragoon`, no, unfortunately.
[08:12] <dragoon`> ok
[08:12] <alex1> ok ill be back in a few
[08:12] <dragoon`> thanks anyway
[08:12] <bdmp__> is eth1 always wireless?
[08:13] <KyoLptp`> Are there many Linux virii?
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> KyoLptp`, not really
[08:13] <tau> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15440
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> alex1, ?
[08:13] <nickrud> tau, ok, I see two references to dapper main & restricted; under your ##main section, and a little below #deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu dapper main.
[08:13] <alex1> hey pppoe: what was that command again
[08:13] <alex1> i copied it poorly
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> alex1, "sudo killall X && sudo init0"
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> alex1, - ""
[08:14] <alex1> thanks again
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> np
[08:14] <alex1> - at the end?
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> alex1, without quotation marks
[08:14] <alex1> yea
[08:14] <Motoko-chan> KyoLptp`, yes there are, but none outside research labs.
[08:14] <alex1> ok here it goes
[08:14] <iiiears> KyoLptp`: The last documented virus was many years ago. - only a proof of concept. Linus Torvaldis Had to patch the kernel to make it run.
[08:14] <Motoko-chan> And they are very limited in what they can damage.
[08:15] <tau> nickrud: yes, you're talking about the reference to archive.ubuntu.com near the bottom?  yes, I put that in because my local mirror seemed to be missing packages I wanted at the time.  Is that bad?
[08:15] <Motoko-chan> iiiears, that was funny to read.
[08:15] <KyoLptp`> Ah, ok
[08:15] <KyoLptp`> Thanks, guys
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> oops
[08:15] <nickrud> tau, I'd replace all of your internode repos with the archive.ubuntu.com ones for a test at least.
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> init 0
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> too late
[08:15] <tau> ok
[08:15] <nickrud> tau, yes, it is bad :)
[08:15] <tau> alright :p
[08:17] <pppoe_dude> hell be back
[08:17] <Fr0Gs> is anyone here running an ATI Card with DRI Enabled on here?
[08:17] <tau> nickrud: ok, trying it now
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> alex1, shouldve been a init 0 not ini0
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> *init0
[08:18] <alex1> pppoe: the command u gave me did not restart my comp it said something like "no processes to kill" or along those lines
[08:18] <alex1> ah
[08:18] <alex1> ok let me try again
[08:18] <alex1> thanks
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> alex1, try sudo init 0
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> alex1, without killall X
[08:18] <tau> nickrud: doh!  no such luck - it's back to exactly the same error! :(
[08:18] <alex1> so just type sudo init 0
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> see if it hangs or not
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> alex1, yes
[08:18] <tau> with perl-tk
[08:19] <lib8264q> hello all
[08:19] <disinterested_pe> ok, i keep getting a problem found on the system its python 2.3-4suite how do i get rid of it?
[08:19] <lerelele> hi! I have two soundcards and i managed to set by default the good one in alsa and esd, but audacity and firefox flash movies doesn't sound so i think that maybe i need to change oss default too. Can anyone help me?
[08:20] <lib8264q> can anyone tell me is there a gui for eagle modems
[08:20] <nickrud> tau, ok the next step is probably dpkg -r perl-tk. If anything needs perl-tk it'll fail
[08:20] <tau> nickrud: hey a quick google may have found something! http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-perl-maintainers/2006-January/002194.html
[08:20] <dragoon`> r/win kill
[08:20] <Fr0Gs> anyone here have a ATI card
[08:21] <tau> nickrud: the error shown is almost identical to mine
[08:21] <farous> Fr0Gs: it is not working
[08:21] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Fr0Gs about ati
[08:21] <redrum> Fr0Gs,  yes
[08:21] <pppoe_dude> lib8264q, try editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[08:21] <Fujitsu> Hi again, alex1.
[08:21] <redrum> you can join #ati with the other lost ati users too Fr0Gs
[08:21] <farous> Fr0Gs: maybe it is a bug that is specific for your card did you check the ati site
[08:21] <pppoe_dude> lib8264q, FIREFOX_DSP="none" to FIREFOX_DSP="OSS" or such
[08:22] <ube> how do you start ubuntu in a text install?
[08:22] <alex1> pppoe: no still hung, and maybe i should be more clear its not that its just black screen , the monitor light goes from green to yellow also kind of like in sleep or screensaver
[08:22] <redrum> Fr0Gs, and mention your OS, type of card etc...
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> alex1, sounds like it is switching display mode...
[08:22] <ron_> alternative cd
[08:22] <alex1> pppoe: and how can this be stopped
[08:22] <JohnsonE> OK guys, i return with more questions!
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> alex1, what video card do you use?
[08:22] <alex1> x800xl
[08:23] <alex1> pci e
[08:23] <lib8264q> thanks :)
[08:23] <tau> nickrud: so it seems that lib-tk is trying to overwrite a file already used/owned by another package
[08:23] <ube> does anyone know how to start text install in dapper?
[08:23] <pppoe_dude> np
[08:23] <nickrud> tau, try looking for a similar bug in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs  also
[08:23] <Fujitsu> !alternate
[08:23] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[08:23] <Fujitsu> ube, ^^^
[08:23] <Fr0Gs> redrum im running Ubuntu 6.06, and i have a Radeio 9600XT 256mb
[08:23] <pppoe_dude> lib8264q, did it work?
[08:23] <JohnsonE> question 1: apt-get always tells me the package couldn't be found. How do I make it find the package?
[08:23] <lib8264q> youmean do a text install ?
[08:23] <nickrud> tau, you can force it to do so with dpkg, but finding out the real reason makes better sense
[08:24] <tau> ok
[08:24] <suyog> someone please tell me, do i need to run apt-get update everyday so that the update manager can find updates?
[08:24] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, which package for instance?
[08:24] <wendyalison> Hi, I've installed some bz2 files, but i'm not sure how to run the app
[08:24] <JohnsonE> pppoe: for example the different font packages
[08:24] <pppoe_dude> suyog, no it automatically updates daily
[08:24] <wendyalison> can somebody please tell me what's the right way to run installed applications
[08:24] <redrum> Fr0Gs, I'm using a crippled 9600 as well, it seems to be common to the card..
[08:24] <suyog> i see. thank you.
[08:24] <nickrud> tau, dpkg --force help gives you a birds eye view
[08:24] <lib8264q> sorry lappys  in other place   iv taken note will try later
[08:25] <suyog> and what is the name of update manager in kubuntu?
[08:25] <pppoe_dude> lol lib8264q  sorry
[08:25] <pppoe_dude> ;)
[08:25] <tomsdimension101> ok, is there a way to automount ntfs writeable
[08:25] <tomsdimension101> I am doing it through ntfsmount
[08:25] <tomsdimension101> can i change the automount to use ntfsmount so it will automount the drive writeable?
[08:26] <mrmist> Need some help with formatting...
[08:26] <pppoe_dude> lerelele, try editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[08:26] <JohnsonE> pppoe: I tried running this: sudo apt-get install xfonts-intl-european
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> I'
[08:26] <pppoe_dude> lerelele,  FIREFOX_DSP="none" to FIREFOX_DSP="OSS"
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> I'm trying out two new things tonight
[08:26] <lib8264q> !restriced formats
[08:26] <ubotu> lib8264q: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> I'm going to install the 64-bit Kubuntu
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> up to thsi point I've been running 32bit Ubuntu
[08:26] <pppoe_dude> !info xfonts-intl-european
[08:26] <ubotu> xfonts-intl-european: (International fonts for X -- European), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-4ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 156 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[08:26] <mrmist> I'm having a dual-boot config winxp/ubuntu and I'm reinstalling Linux.... I want to have the "/home" folder on it's own partition... how do I do it ?
[08:27] <lib8264q> !mp3
[08:27] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:27] <JairunCaloth> YES Mrmist, I was about to ask that same question
[08:27] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, you need to enable universe in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:27] <snoops> having a problem with xgl.. everything is installed.. going from the forum about creating a 'thefuture' script.. ran that.. it seems like it's loaded.. but I don't have any title bars etc
[08:27] <snoops> plus I can't move windows around with alt+click
[08:27] <Fujitsu> snoops, make sure gnome-window-decorator is running, as well as compiz...
[08:28] <JohnsonE> pppoe: i have no idea how to do that.. just open the file?
[08:28] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, try "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove the '#' signs from beside the deb words
[08:28] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, then run sudo apt-get update
[08:28] <bdmp__> My network won't work. need help.
[08:28] <snoops> I can check that with ps -A | grep compiz and ps -A | grep gnome-window-decorator right Fujitsu?
[08:28] <lerelele> pppoe_dude: the problem is that oss uses the wrong soundcard
[08:28] <Fujitsu> Probably, snoops.
[08:29] <bigfoot1> i'm currenty on ubuntu (gnome). how can i try out xubuntu on this computer WITOUT any risks of not having my programs (skype, opera, mp3 players, OOo, gimp, etc)   not working?
[08:29] <snoops> is there another way?
[08:29] <JohnsonE> ppoe: remove every # in front of a deb?
[08:29] <pppoe_dude> lerelele, so you want to change the default OSS sound device?
[08:29] <lerelele> pppoe_dude: yes
[08:29] <dallgood> does anyone know of a good alarm clock applet or something for gnomepanel?
[08:29] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, yes, that would enable everything
[08:29] <tau> is there a quick way to find out what other programs depend on a given package?
[08:30] <bdmp__> Networ won't work. I use the network tools but still ifconfig gives me http://pastebin.ca/63506 nothing.
[08:30] <JohnsonE> thanks, pppoe.. worked
[08:30] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, no problem
[08:30] <ube> Fujitsu: thanks
[08:30] <Fujitsu> No problem, ube.
[08:30] <JohnsonE> QUESTION 2: I installed the ati drivers. worked except it said to save my X Window configuration file and run aticonfig. I have no idea how to do either of those.
[08:32] <nickrud> tau, apt-cache rdepends <package>  (reverse dependendencies)
[08:32] <snoops> ah okay
[08:32] <JohnsonE> ssb@ssb-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[08:32] <JohnsonE> Reading package lists... Done
[08:32] <JohnsonE> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:32] <JohnsonE> Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:32] <JohnsonE> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:32] <JohnsonE> is only available from another source
[08:32] <JohnsonE> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[08:32] <JohnsonE> ehh sorry >_>
[08:32] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell JohnsonE about pastebin
[08:32] <snoops> Fujitsu I'm getting "gnome-window decorator: another window decorator is already running"
[08:32] <Fr0Gs> hey all
[08:32] <Fujitsu> snoops, sounds like it's already running.
[08:32] <Fujitsu> Hi again, Fr0Gs
[08:32] <Madpilot> JohnsonE, I think it's msttfcorefonts
[08:32] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, run apt-cache search msttcorefonts
[08:32] <tau> nickrud: cool, thanks
[08:33] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, and see what you get...
[08:33] <snoops> hmm it doesn't show up in ps -A | grep gnome-window-decorator though..
[08:33] <Fr0Gs> fujitsu
[08:33] <Fr0Gs> i need help
[08:33] <nickrud> tau, apt-cache is a very good, try apt-cache --help and man apt-cache for a lot of details
[08:33] <Madpilot> JohnsonE, you got the filename right, actually. Do you have Multiverse installed?
[08:33] <Fujitsu> Fr0Gs, what's the problem?
[08:33] <Fr0Gs> it doesnt work when ever it goes into DRI/3D it locks up
[08:33] <tau> ahhhhhhhh, the package that is conflicting with perl-tk only has one dependency, which is a program I can do without anyway, so I can just get rid of them - problem solved! (hopefully)
[08:33] <bean> hi, i need some help with mounting a dynamic disk
[08:34] <pppoe_dude> Madpilot, he just enabled all repos
[08:34] <Fr0Gs> msg me Fujitsu
[08:34] <Fujitsu> Fr0Gs, no.
[08:34] <Madpilot> pppoe_dude, and ran sudo apt-get update or hit the Reload button? (sorry, haven't been following...)
[08:34] <bean> how do i mount a win2k/xp dynamic disk in ubuntu?
[08:34] <Fujitsu> Fr0Gs, keep it in the channel, please.
[08:34] <JohnsonE> pppoe - it told me openoffice.
[08:34] <pppoe_dude> Madpilot, yep
[08:34] <alex1> well good night all, tomorrow is a new day
[08:34] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, thats all you got?
[08:34] <Fujitsu> bean, I don't think you can. Dynamic Disks is a proprietary system.
[08:34] <Madpilot> pppoe_dude, odd. the ms core fonts should be there...
[08:34] <pppoe_dude> !info msttcorefonts
[08:34] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[08:34] <JohnsonE> yes, that's all
[08:34] <Fr0Gs> fujitsu, so whats the problem
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> yep odd
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, what country are your repos in?
[08:35] <Fujitsu> Fr0Gs... I thought /you/ had the problem?
[08:35] <kosnick> bean : what do you mean dynamic disk
[08:35] <JohnsonE> ssb@ssb-desktop:~/Desktop$ apt-cache search msttcorefonts
[08:35] <JohnsonE> openoffice.org - OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0
[08:35] <Fr0Gs> i did but how can i fix this problem
[08:35] <Fr0Gs> well i do
[08:35] <snoops> how can I check which decorator I'm using?
[08:35] <made> hello all.. I'm in the process of installing the latest nvidia drivers via method 2 because everytime I try to install the drivers via the package manager I always get a X error
[08:36] <Fujitsu> kosnick, it's a Microsoft LVM clone.
[08:36] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, i would suggest you go to packages.ubuntu.com and download it from there (you can search) then use 'dpkg -i path/to/download'
[08:36] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, if you get dependancy errors, then run 'apt-get -f install'
[08:36] <made> can somebody help me figure out what I put when terminal asks for "--kernel-source-path=/usr/"
[08:36] <kosnick> Fujitsu : LVM ?
[08:37] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, i've had similar problems where certain specific packages were not available in my repos
[08:37] <Fujitsu> kosnick, don't worry.
[08:37] <bean> kosnick: it's window's version of LVM
[08:37] <kosnick> Fujitsu : ok thats what i thought myself , thx
[08:37] <bean> Fujitsu: u're sure?
[08:37] <Madpilot> JohnsonE, which archive are you using, do you know?
[08:37] <Fujitsu> bean, yes. It's a stupid system.
[08:37] <anil123> how to run irc from terminal in ubuntu
[08:37] <bean> Fujitsu: that's sad
[08:38] <pppoe_dude> anil123, irssi
[08:38] <Fujitsu> bean, that's Microsoft.
[08:38] <made> can somebody help me with installation of the nvidia drivers?
[08:38] <bean> Fujitsu: i can't even load the same dynamic disk when i reinstalled windows
[08:38] <bean> Fujitsu: it's evil
[08:38] <NoUse> !nvidia
[08:38] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:38] <steveO_> anybody got some must need packages to recommend?  I use chrony over ntp, seems better.  Any others?
[08:38] <JairunCaloth> how much space does the typical Kubuntu install take up. Not counting a home dirctory?
[08:38] <bean> Fujitsu: i guess all my data is gone
[08:38] <made> NoUse don't be like that
[08:38] <steveO_> I tried xinetd but it didn't work out for me.
[08:38] <made> read what I said above.. I have already been there and read that
[08:39] <NoUse> made if you ask a specific question, we can give you a specific answer, what part is causing you problems
[08:39] <made> can somebody help me figure out what I put when terminal asks for "--kernel-source-path=/usr/"
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> made, you need to have build-essential and your kernel sources installed
[08:40] <kayde> i need help with a gimp script...i dont know where to put the file...
[08:40] <bean> Fujitsu: thanks anyway
[08:40] <made> I'm newb.. can you go further in that explanation..
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> made, 1 sec
[08:40] <made> I have build-essential
[08:40] <made> and I know my kernel is 2.6.15-23-386
[08:41] <NoUse> make what kind of X error were you getting with method 1?
[08:41] <JohnsonE> ok pppoe, i did as you said and it's currently scrolling through some process..
[08:41] <pppoe_dude> made, 'sudo apt-get install linux-source'
[08:41] <kayde> vinboy, ur from new zealand ay,?
[08:41] <vinboy> kayde: yea
[08:41] <tau> nickrud: yay, it worked! "apt-get dist-upgrade" seems to have nothing left to do now, and only mentions 1 package held back (I don't know why) - gdk-imlib1 - any idea what's going on there or if that package is important?
[08:41] <Random1> where can i change the size of my desktop icons?
[08:42] <kayde> vinboy, u go for warriors or allblacks?
[08:42] <made> Random1: right mouse click
[08:42] <Random1> then?
[08:42] <made> Random1: on the icon itself
[08:42] <vinboy> kayde: wat??? when they playing?
[08:42] <pppoe_dude> made they should get installed in /usr/src/kernelxxxxx
[08:42] <anil123> Ask me questions I am free
[08:42] <kayde> vinboy, dunno...just asking
[08:42] <JohnsonE> ok pppoe, all fonts installed. thank you! just gotta figure out how to apply them to firefox now.
[08:42] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, np
[08:42] <vinboy> lol
[08:42] <NoUse> made what X error were you getting with method 1? if you're a newbie you probably shouldn't do method 2
[08:43] <vinboy> it is world cup time
[08:43] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, they should be available to firefox
[08:43] <nickrud> tau, it's an old lib, probably used by an old gnome 1.x program you still have. I'd first do an apt-get dist-upgrade, see if the upgrade path has been defined already.
[08:43] <JohnsonE> ah! so they are. wonderful.
[08:43] <xxx> !paste
[08:43] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[08:43] <kayde> i need help with a gimp script...i dont know where to put the file...
[08:44] <pppoe_dude> kayde, try #gimp
[08:44] <answerguy> anil123 You're free to answer questions about Ubuntu?
[08:44] <kayde> ohh ty man
[08:44] <made> pppoe_dude: I have linux-source now..
[08:45] <anil123> yeah
[08:45] <made> 2.6.15.22
[08:45] <tau> nickrud: here is what "apt-get dist-upgrade" says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15441
[08:45] <kayde> pppoe_dude, no-one answers in that room...
[08:45] <pppoe_dude> kayde, you need to wait ;)
[08:45] <answerguy> Anyone here ever run a Xen dom0 (hosted) under Ubuntu?  And running an Ubuntu under that?
[08:45] <pppoe_dude> made, it should be somewhere in /usr/src
[08:46] <pppoe_dude> so find the real path then plug it in... but i think there a simpler method like NoUse said
[08:46] <nickrud> tau, do the rdepends thing again :)
[08:46] <flyman_ubuntu> question.,.
[08:46] <tau> ok
[08:46] <made> pppoe_dude: linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 is the only significant file I see
[08:46] <dsas> kayde: Perhaps /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins
[08:47] <flyman_ubuntu> compiz and aigxl question
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> made, you need to unpack that file
[08:47] <tau> nickrud: youch!  a whole stack of programs depend on gdk-imlib1
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> made, bzip2 -d <file> then tar -xvf <file>
[08:47] <kayde> dsas, ohhh i was going through etc/
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> made, this method is not the most clean
[08:47] <made> what do you reccomend then..
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> made, is this for nvidia?
[08:48] <dsas> kayde: Also, you could try ~/.gimp2.0/scripts
[08:48] <made> I'm half way thru it.. I thought that compiling my own would be cleaner than a simple install from package manager
[08:48] <dsas> kayde: (or whatever the gimp configuration directory is)
[08:48] <made> yes Nvidia
[08:48] <pppoe_dude> made, you can keep going if you want
[08:48] <made> what should I do if this method isn't clean..
[08:48] <dsas> kayde: Meaning the user configuration directory/file, not the system (/etc) one
[08:49] <pppoe_dude> made did you try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:49] <nickrud> tau, and those are all old, nearly dead software. (some I stll use).
[08:49] <eNons3nse> how can i figure out what kind of motherboard/chipset is in my box?
[08:49] <JohnsonE> QUESTION 2: I installed the ati drivers. worked except it said to save my X Window configuration file and run aticonfig. I have no idea how to do either of those.
[08:49] <kayde> dsas, ok...
[08:49] <steveO_> eNons3nse: dmesg will show you the chipset.
[08:49] <snoops> how can I set it so in compiz that windows stick to each other - like you move a window close to another and it attaches itself?
[08:49] <pppoe_dude> made, compiling your own packages like that (using kernel sources etc.) might upset dpkg
[08:50] <nickrud> tau, but i'd do apt-get remove gdk-imlib1 and note the programs that are actually removed.
[08:50] <flyman_ubuntu> all users of my system can access the copmiz plugins except me....i get a few, around 6.  i was looking for away to use gconf to solve the problem, i did copy the switcher folder from another profile.....but that didn't work....any ideas?
[08:50] <made> pppoe_dude: I'll try the wiki again but this will be my 3rd install of Ubuntu 6.06.. I had no problem installing Nvidia via this method in 5.10
[08:51] <kayde> dsas, ummmmm so gimp is under users, cos there is no script folder in usr/lib/gimp
[08:51] <pppoe_dude> made, i c, would it be the 3rd because of nvidia drivers?
[08:51] <tau> nickrud: it's ok, someone else just suggested I try and install the package manually, and it worked!
[08:51] <NoUse> made tell us the specific error you are getting from fX
[08:51] <made> pppoe_dude: yes
[08:51] <nickrud> tau, I missed that, excellent
[08:51] <JohnsonE> (repeat) QUESTION 2: I installed the ati drivers. worked except it said to save my X Window configuration file and run aticonfig. I have no idea how to do either of those.
[08:51] <made> NoUse: I would have to install it again to remember
[08:51] <mekanzoo> question: How do I enable windows network file sharing from console?
[08:51] <dsas> kayde: Putting it in /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins doesn't work?
[08:51] <tau> nickrud: so is it time to reboot now?
[08:51] <nickrud> I'm more conservative, I cut and add back
[08:52] <nickrud> tau, if you installed a new kernel, yes
[08:52] <tau> nickrud: there's nothing else left to do so I can only assume dapper is now installed
[08:52] <tau> there's a new kernel sitting in /boot so I guess so
[08:52] <kayde> dsas, cant paste it there...
[08:52] <kayde> dsas, no option to paste
[08:52] <tau> nickrud: thanks for your help :)
[08:52] <pppoe_dude> mekanzoo, it is sortof like mounting a device if i remember correctly. try something like smbmount <location of remote directory> <mount point>
[08:53] <nickrud> tau, yw
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> mekanzoo, 1 sec ill give you details
[08:53] <made> I'll be back in about 10 minutes..
[08:53] <mekanzoo> pppoe_dude : thank you
[08:53] <JohnsonE> (repeat) QUESTION 2: I installed the ati drivers. worked except it said to save my X Window configuration file and run aticonfig. I have no idea how to do either of those.
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> oops i think smbmount isnt in dpper
[08:53] <dsas> kayde: You'll need to use the command line to do it "sudo cp scriptname /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins"
[08:53] <kayde> dsas, "you do not have permission to write to here..."
[08:54] <pppoe_dude> mekanzoo, you will need to use mount
[08:54] <dsas> kayde: It's because it's a 'system' folder. You can write there if you use the command line to do it, or type gksudo nautilus at the command prompt.
[08:54] <mekanzoo> pppoe_due: how do I use mount to share a folder?
[08:54] <kayde> dsas, ok,
[08:54] <pppoe_dude> mekanzoo, do you want to share or access?
[08:54] <mekanzoo> I want to share
[08:55] <pppoe_dude> oh never mind mount then
[08:55] <mekanzoo> I want to share a directory so other windows machine can access it
[08:55] <pppoe_dude> sharing is a bit more complicated
[08:55] <mekanzoo> but I can only do it from console
[08:55] <JohnsonE> (repeat) QUESTION 2: I installed the ati drivers. worked except it said to save my X Window configuration file and run aticonfig. I have no idea how to do either of those.
[08:55] <pppoe_dude> i would do it with scp mekanzoo
[08:56] <torrentwoe1> is there anyway to make enemy territory window maximise to full screen?
[08:56] <pppoe_dude> mekanzoo, or...
[08:56] <mekanzoo> pppoe_dude, is there another way?
[08:56] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell mekanzoo about samba
[08:56] <kayde> dsas, erm, can i pm u?
[08:56] <dsas> kayde: sure
[08:56] <mekanzoo> samba is for accessing or sharing?
[08:56] <Madpilot> torrentwoe1, it does by default for me...
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> mekanzoo, both
[08:57] <torrentwoe1> hmm
[08:57] <xxx> why cant i install decoder?
[08:57] <JohnsonE> torrentwoe, what program are you using
[08:57] <torrentwoe1> what do you mean ?
[08:57] <torrentwoe1> ET
[08:57] <JohnsonE> like wine or vmware
[08:57] <ElBrujo> i need help whit compiz
[08:57] <mekanzoo> oh ok.. thank you
[08:57] <dsas> xxx: What decoder?
[08:57] <ElBrujo> please some one
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> mekanzoo, did u get msg from ubotu?
[08:57] <torrentwoe1> its the linux version
[08:57] <JohnsonE> ohh
[08:57] <JohnsonE> ok
[08:58] <JohnsonE> (repeat) QUESTION 2: I installed the ati drivers. worked except it said to save my X Window configuration file and run aticonfig. I have no idea how to do either of those.
[08:58] <pppoe_dude> torrentwoe1, check 'video settings' in W;ET?
[08:58] <kayde> dsas, ok, i pasted itt in, and i think it will work
[08:58] <torrentwoe1> ive got fullscreen as yes
[08:58] <torrentwoe1> but my desktop resolution is 1920X 1200
[08:58] <torrentwoe1> and it doesnt have that
[08:58] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, try "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak"
[08:58] <mekanzoo> yes I did.. thank you ppoe_dude
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, then run sudo aticonfig
[08:59] <torrentwoe1> but its got window borders which is silly
[08:59] <JohnsonE> pppoe: I ran that and it didn't give me any messages
[08:59] <JohnsonE> ohh hold on
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, that means it ran with no errors
[09:00] <JohnsonE> yes but when i did aticonfig i got this: aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:00] <xxx> dsas ,forget it ,anyway ,thanku
[09:00] <ElBrujo> i cant run compiz
[09:00] <NoUse> ElBrujo xgl stuff is in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:00] <ElBrujo> give me an texture or someting error..
[09:00] <ElBrujo> ok
[09:00] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, did u install ati drivers according to a guide?
[09:00] <ElBrujo> tanks
[09:00] <kayde> dsas, erm, in gimp, how do i "use" it?
[09:01] <JohnsonE> pppoe: I ran the executable from the site, it said the installation was fine and to set the X Window file and run aticonfig. no guides involved.
[09:01] <mathfee1> question: i know that "tab" key can be use to iterate the various element of a window, what's the key to iterate in reverse ordre?
[09:01] <mathfee1> just imagin you have to live without a mouse, like I am for the moment...
[09:01] <nickrud> mathfee1, ctrl-tab
[09:02] <mathfee1> doesn't quite work...
[09:02] <mathfee1> i am trying on firefox...
[09:02] <Fujitsu> Shift-Tab.
[09:02] <nickrud> mathfee1, you can do most everything with a keyboard, but firefox is not gnome ;(
[09:02] <dsas> kayde: I don't know to be honest, I think it should just appear in the xtns menu at the top.
[09:02] <nickrud> mathfee1, Fujitsu is right, wrong tab reversal.
[09:03] <made> I'm back
tab works...
[09:03] <mathfee1> thanks...
[09:03] <mathfee1> is there any place that I can actually set this?
[09:04] <kayde> dsas, how do i get to:  directory?
[09:04] <mathfee1> it might be interesting to use numpad + and - to do the same trick...
[09:04] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, you seem to be missing the fglrx module
[09:04] <made> I give up on trying to install nvidia
[09:04] <JohnsonE> pppoe: i'm trying the guide on the ati linux wiki >_>
[09:04] <pppoe_dude> JohnsonE, this is about as much as i know about ATi cards
[09:04] <NoUse> made if you give us the error message we might be able to help you
[09:05] <mathfee1> made: how come? it's pretty painless for me, now that I also get xgl running...
[09:05] <dsas> kayde: I think I told you the wrong directory. Try copying the script to .gimp-2.2/scripts (it's a hidden file in your home directory)
[09:05] <made> it said something about it can't find the device
[09:05] <made> I know it's there
[09:05] <made> and I can see it in devices
[09:05] <NoUse> made I probably know how to fix it
[09:05] <nickrud> mathfee1, yes. System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts; also in the gconf-editor at /apps/metacity/ , there's several pages there that control how keystrokes are handled.
[09:05] <NoUse> made do you want to try?
[09:05] <dsas> kayde: then go to xtns - > script-fu -> refresh scripts in the gimp menu.
[09:05] <made> yes I do
[09:05] <NoUse> made are you at the console
[09:05] <made> yes
[09:05] <kayde> dsas, homw directory?...
[09:06] <JohnsonE> ok all, guide says to reboot so i'll be back shortly.
[09:06] <NoUse> made run 'lsmod | grep nv'
[09:06] <made> ok
[09:06] <mathfee1> made: you mean an Xserver error?
[09:06] <NoUse> made does it output anything/
[09:06] <made> yes
[09:06] <NoUse> made what does it out?
[09:06] <dsas> kayde: Your "my documents" folder you can see it by pressing places - > home on the main toolbar at the top of the screen
[09:06] <kayde> dsas, found it!
[09:06] <mathfee1> made: you need the correct pci address?
[09:06] <mathfee1> made: in your xorg.conf?
[09:07] <kayde> dsas, permissions...
[09:07] <mathfee1> nickrud: i can't get anything in my system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts to work
[09:07] <made> where do I paste long code?
[09:07] <NoUse> !pastebin
[09:07] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[09:07] <mathfee1> in particular, i can't get <ctl><alt>T to launch terminal
[09:07] <nickrud> mathfee1, they are all repeated in the metacity pages
[09:07] <flyman_ubuntu> compiz and aiglx...question...all of the users on my machine have access to all of the plugins except for me....i get 6 or so.  i tried to copy the gconf folders from the other profiles but didn't have any luck....any ideas?
[09:08] <nickrud> mathfee1, no, I am wrong, mean only the window management stuff under shortcuts
[09:08] <made> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15443
[09:08] <dsas> kayde: You should have permissions to move it there. Where are you you moving it from?
[09:08] <kayde> dsas, it says no permission
[09:09] <kayde> the same gimp folder that u told me before
[09:09] <made> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15443
[09:09] <NoUse> made, ok that looks correct
[09:09] <NoUse> made can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file/
[09:09] <made> kool we have something done
[09:09] <dsas> kayde: Odd, try copying it in the same way you copied it to the first gimp folder.
[09:09] <nickrud> mathfee1, the rest are under /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/keybindings
[09:09] <made> sure
[09:09] <mathfee1> nickrud: still, some how ther gnome preference keyboard shortcut has no effect on me...
[09:10] <JohnsonE> my ati driver worked :D
[09:10] <nickrud> mathfee1, if the gconfd process is running, gnome should see any change there immediately
[09:10] <mathfee1> nickrud: gconf-editor is not as nice, I have to know the keycode...
[09:10] <kayde> dsas, done...it "worked" but i cant find it in scripts fu
[09:10] <SurfnKid> Full Metal Jacket is on
[09:10] <nickrud> mathfee1, now, that's a different question :)
[09:10] <Vaske_Car> Where does Ubuntu save GLOBAL php.ini ?
[09:11] <SurfnKid> is postfix a relay server?
[09:11] <mathfee1> nickrud: yes it is :p
[09:11] <made> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15444
[09:11] <JohnsonE> LAST QUESTION: part 1a. What's generally better for gaming: Wine or VMWare?
[09:11] <dsas> kayde: did you go to xtns - > script-fu -> refresh scripts in the gimp menu
[09:12] <pppoe_dude> Vaske_Car, maybe /etc/php/apache2/php.ini
[09:12] <kayde> dsasyup...
[09:12] <kayde> dsas, yup
[09:12] <suyog> how do i enable adept updater in kubuntu? i somehow disabled it and now i cant turn it back on
[09:13] <NoUse> made, this line: Driver                "nv"
[09:13] <NoUse> nv - > nvidia
[09:13] <made> ok
[09:13] <nickrud> mathfee1, have you tried some of the keyboards in System->Preferences->Keyboard? Under the tab Layouts, try different models.
[09:13] <JohnsonE> LAST QUESTION: part 1a. What's generally better for gaming: Wine or VMWare?
[09:13] <SurfnKid> What can I use to relay mail?
[09:13] <nickrud> Windows
[09:13] <SurfnKid> in Ubuntu
[09:13] <kayde> dsas, thanks man
[09:14] <mathfee1> nickrud: what are some options? i only know us_en...
[09:14] <nickrud> mathfee1, I'm talking about brand, I select microsoft multimedia 1A iirc
[09:14] <dsas> kayde: You got it working? If not I'm at a loss.
[09:14] <polpak> hrmph
[09:14] <NoUse> made then Ctrl+Alt+F1, login and 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[09:14] <suyog> someone, please!! how do i enable adept updater in kubuntu? i somehoe disabled it and now i cant turn it back on
[09:15] <nickrud> gotta have that split keyboard
[09:15] <mathfee1> nickrud: i have no clue...this is an my roommate's emachine
[09:15] <kayde> dsas, IT WORKS TYYYY
[09:15] <polpak> trying to upgrade dapper, but the damn partition editor (gparted I think it is) causes the whole "install cd" system to lock up
[09:15] <JohnsonE> LAST QUESTION: part 1a. What's generally better for gaming: Wine or VMWare?
[09:15] <nickrud> mathfee1, I have an emachine running across the room :) Give up on that keyboard then
[09:15] <mathfee1> nickrud: one of them multimedia keyboard...thing is even the "internet" butoon on it works...
[09:15] <polpak> JohnsonE, for what?
[09:16] <mathfee1> nickrud: but the kyb_shortcut dialogue box actually accepts most of the combo I give them, it just wouldn't work...
[09:16] <polpak> JohnsonE, for games? I think wine is better. VMware doesn't do 3d accelleration afaik. For normal apps VMware is probably slightly better (but you have to have windows)
[09:16] <mathfee1> nickrud: it detected Super_L when I pressed the window key, but doesn't launch the gnome menu...
[09:16] <made> back
[09:16] <suyog> no one's helping me in #kubuntu. how do i enable adept updater in kubuntu? i somehoe disabled it and now i cant turn it back on
[09:17] <NoUse> made anything/
[09:17] <pppoe_dude> suyog, did you try dpkg-reconfigure adept?
[09:17] <made> NoUse: I sudo nano the xorg.conf.. and changed it from 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[09:17] <made> restart gdm
[09:17] <suyog> pppoe_dude: i see. i will try that!
[09:17] <made> I'm here and alive
[09:17] <pppoe_dude> suyog, or maybe just run adept and try messing with the options
[09:17] <MTecknology> I'm trying to make a spreadsheet in OO2.org. I set up the colums for dates to be MM/DD/YY. When I enter the date, it assumes I'm typing it in as DD/MM/YY and converts it to the other, except I am typing it in as MM/DD/YY. I don't know if this is an OO config issue, or Ubuntu... Any help?
[09:18] <NoUse> made then you should be running the nvidia drivers
[09:18] <made> no logo..
[09:18] <nickrud> mathfee1, keyboard definitions in X are still pretty much undocumented black magic. There's a utility called xev that can tell you keycodes to plug into the gconf-editor.
[09:18] <polpak> I'm trying to DL the alternative install CD, but the torrent keeps giving me bad blocks, so what should have only taken an hour took about 6.  I could download directly but that's also pretty slow
[09:18] <polpak> highly annoying
[09:18] <JohnsonE> the breezy badger release of wine will work in dapper, right? >_>
[09:18] <made> how can I verify that i'm running the drivers
[09:18] <nickrud> mathfee1, the reason I gave up on non-standard keyboards is simply it's too much work for me to define another keyboard.
[09:18] <suyog> pppoe_dude: i think it is a problem with some kdenotify settings, because when i log in as another user, the update notifier works just fine.
[09:18] <NoUse> made 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[09:18] <polpak> JohnsonE, you can just get it from winehq.org
[09:19] <made> and I hate how linux doesn't have the configuration I have in windows
[09:19] <Vaske_Car> pppoe_dude: thanks, thats the one
[09:19] <JohnsonE> polpak: i'm there
[09:19] <pppoe_dude> Vaske_Car, np
[09:19] <NoUse> made oh I like it that way :-)
[09:19] <MTecknology> made, are you using Gnome or KDE??
[09:19] <JohnsonE> polpak: the only ubuntu release is for breezy. making sure it'd work.
[09:19] <polpak> JohnsonE, then just add the repository to synaptic and install wine
[09:19] <made> gnome
[09:19] <polpak> JohnsonE, it'll work fine
[09:19] <mrmist> need some help with installing smp...
[09:19] <mrmist> Don't know in what order I should do things...
[09:20] <MTecknology> made, KDE is directed toward management, maybe give it a go, there is a whole control program
[09:20] <made> well I am more of a power user in windows.. I have everything modded up and shiza.. .hmmm
[09:20] <lwizardl> anyone ever use webmin on ubuntu?
[09:21] <NoUse> lwizardl try not to :-)
[09:21] <NoUse> lwizardl its no longer supported in dapper
[09:21] <lwizardl> NoUse, well i'm just researching cpanel like apps
[09:22] <NoUse> made did you run the command i sent you?
[09:22] <made> yes
[09:22] <lwizardl> and was curious about that one
[09:22] <NoUse> made and?
[09:22] <made> the answer from the command is Direct: yes
[09:22] <NoUse> made then you are running the nvidia drivers
[09:23] <made> thank you..
[09:23] <made> but how about nforce drivers? hehe :-)
[09:23] <mrmist> Anyone here installed support for Dual Core prosessors ?
[09:23] <NoUse> can't help you there, never used nforce stuff
[09:23] <made> hehe
[09:23] <made> yeah that's a whole differenct ball park
[09:24] <pppoe_dude> lwizardl, any good ones so far?
[09:24] <made> well I'm off to bed.. I have to wake up early and go buy some Korn tix..
[09:24] <Starseed> Wow, dapper is nice
[09:24] <made> later all.. and thank you NoUse and pppoe_dude for you assistance
[09:24] <pppoe_dude> made, np
[09:25] <NoUse> make yw
[09:25] <made> Starseed: I concur
[09:25] <mrmist> guys ?? Anyone ?
[09:25] <Fujitsu> mrmist, both cores should work by default in Ubuntu 6.06.
[09:26] <mrmist> Fujitsu: people keep telling me that. It's not the case
[09:26] <JohnsonE> ok, i installed wine from synaptec.
[09:26] <mrmist> I've got the i386 core on this system
[09:26] <mrmist> and it can't make use of both my cores
[09:26] <Fujitsu> mrmist, install the linux-686 package.
[09:26] <mrmist> Fujitsu: I need support for smp
[09:26] <Fujitsu> mrmist, the default Ubuntu 6.06 kernels have SMP compiled in.
[09:27] <michaels_> before I upgraded to dapper I installed firefox 1.5 manually. now the copy I installed manually is 1.5.0.1 when the system has upgraded to 1.5.0.4. how can I merge the two to get my options but the system's version?
[09:27] <polpak> I don't think so
[09:27] <kholerabbi> If you or install stuff on the livecd, where is it stored?
[09:27] <polpak> mrmist, sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[09:27] <lwizardl> pppoe_dude, well ones i've read online about are zpanel, vhcs, web://cp, usermin,webmin,ispconfig
[09:27] <kholerabbi> (if you download or install)*
[09:27] <mrmist> polpak: And that's all I need ?
[09:27] <Geoffrey2> has anyone tried running Codeweavers Cross Over on Ubuntu?
[09:27] <polpak> mrmist, yes
[09:28] <mrmist> hmmm
[09:28] <polpak> mrmist, it may have dependancies of course, but it'll install those
[09:28] <JohnsonE> Do I need to reboot for wine to appear in my programs?
[09:28] <Vaske_Car> how to install eMule for linux?
[09:28] <pppoe_dude> zpanel looks ok lwizardl is it gpl'd?
[09:28] <Starseed> Vaske_Car: amule
[09:28] <mrmist> polpak: but the i686 cores are newer...
[09:28] <polpak> JohnsonE, no. If you install wine it will let you run windows executibles
[09:28] <cyne> anyone good with RealVNC? all of the applications run and stop, saying "Aborted"
[09:28] <cyphase> what do you guys think of having an ubuntu-desktop-expanded package, in addition to ubuntu-desktop, that would install additional packages?
[09:28] <bdmp__> I have a problem and this thread has the one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1120106&posted=1#post1120106  Someone suggests "hot unplug/plug procedure" but I do not know what that is. Also when i do ifconfig I get 2 lines "Listenign on LPF/eth1/00:00:00:00:00:00" and "Sending on LPF/eth1/00:00:00:00:00:00" Are these zeros my Mac address?
[09:28] <cyne> in Ubuntu
[09:28] <cyphase> what do you guys think of having an ubuntu-desktop-expanded package, in addition to ubuntu-desktop, that would install additional packages?
[09:28] <lwizardl> pppoe_dude, also one call xpanel
[09:28] <cyphase> oops, sorry
[09:28] <bdmp__> cool
[09:28] <kholerabbi> Vaske_Car: amule is in the add/remove applications, or you can sudo aptitude install amule (amule is like emule)
[09:29] <JohnsonE> polpak: so if i download a .exe of a game install i can install the game?
[09:29] <polpak> JohnsonE, you can make the attempt
[09:29] <mrmist> polpak: I'll try then
[09:29] <mrmist> bye :)
[09:29] <Starseed> Anyone in here play WoW in ubuntu ?
[09:29] <JohnsonE> polpak: attempt? >______> doesn't sound safe
[09:29] <lwizardl> pppoe_dude, http://www.opensourcescripts.com/dir/PHP/Web_Hosting_Tools/92.html
[09:29] <Hoxzer_> How do I change users pw?
[09:29] <kholerabbi> Where dose the livecd store the tings you download?
[09:29] <Hoxzer_> with command
[09:29] <polpak> JohnsonE, it's safe.. it just may not work
[09:29] <polpak> JohnsonE, not all games work in wine
[09:29] <cyphase> kholerabbi, in memory
[09:29] <UNH2LY> hey everyone
[09:30] <UNH2LY> anyone know anything about glx?
[09:30] <polpak> kholerabbi, in the ramdisk
[09:30] <SurfnKid> how do I know if APM is working on my kernel
[09:30] <pppoe_dude> lwizardl, thanks
[09:30] <SurfnKid> lsmod?
[09:30] <polpak> kholerabbi, if you reboot it goes away
[09:30] <Vaske_Car> kholerabbi, thanks, is there anything better than eMule? My friend want me to install Ubuntu for him but he need stuff like that...
[09:30] <lwizardl> np
[09:30] <JohnsonE> polpak: ok thanks, i'll give it a shot anyway.
[09:30] <lecaros> hoxzer_ passwd <user>
[09:30] <cyphase> kholerabbi, you can configure the livecd at boot time to save to a removable drive
[09:30] <kholerabbi> cyphase: in ram? what if I downloaded a 300mb on something with 256mb, it would die ? :)
[09:31] <SurfnKid> how do I check for kernel modules loaded?
[09:31] <pppoe_dude> meh.. freeware
[09:31] <cyphase> it won't let you because the filesystem is full
[09:31] <polpak> Starseed, yes, you can play wine.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92367
[09:31] <cyphase> would be full at 250mb*
[09:31] <polpak> Starseed, or WOW in wine rather
[09:31] <JohnsonE> polpak: i just downloaded an exe, clicked it, nothing came up :O
[09:31] <SurfnKid> I want to find out if APM is loaded to install a specified package to check power management on a battery
[09:31] <martyvis> kholerabbi: yeah, it is a livecd - if you need you can mount a USB drive or even access fat32 on your hd
[09:31] <kholerabbi> Vaske_Car: mldonkey is supposed to be good, connecting to the same networks as emule, plus gnutella1 and 2 (the limewire networks)
[09:31] <kholerabbi> ok cheers
[09:31] <polpak> JohnsonE, try from the command line.. wine /path/to/file.exe
[09:32] <pppoe_dude> lwizardl, ispconfig seems ok
[09:32] <lecaros> Vaske_Car i use Amule (www.amule.org)
[09:32] <kholerabbi> Anybody know when the next wine is ready for release?
[09:32] <lecaros> Vaske_Car from ubuntu repositories
[09:32] <polpak> kholerabbi, one was just released yesterday
[09:32] <lwizardl> pppoe_dude, I haven't tried any yet still in the researching stage on picking one
[09:33] <snoops> how can I make a bash script so I can provide a whole line of tags.. instead of doing $1 $2 etc_
[09:33] <UNH2LY> anyone know anything about glx?
[09:33] <webmind> good morning
[09:33] <Starseed> so as long as I have a fullscreen xine window on the TV portion of my twinview setup all the rest of the apps play nice and open on the monitor , otherwise they're opening on the TV .. weird .. simple solution though seeing it's all I use the TV for is to watch vids
[09:33] <JohnsonE> polpak: It supposedly installed.. how do I access c:\windows\desktop?
[09:33] <polpak> snoops, probably ought to ask in #bash
[09:33] <snoops> k thanks
[09:34] <kholerabbi> polpak: is it in the ubuntu reps?
[09:34] <MTecknology> I'm trying to make a spreadsheet in OO2.org. I set up the colums for dates to be MM/DD/YY. When I enter the date, it assumes I'm typing it in as DD/MM/YY and converts it to the other, except I am typing it in as MM/DD/YY. I don't know if this is an OO config issue, or Ubuntu... Any help?
[09:34] <polpak> JohnsonE, ~/.wine/c_drive/ should be the equivilant of your c drive
[09:34] <polpak> kholerabbi, no, go to www.winehq.org
[09:34] <UNH2LY> MTecknology, thats probably a oo problem
[09:34] <MTecknology> aight
[09:34] <kholerabbi> polpak: cheers, I already have it installed though, whats the best way to upgrade?
[09:35] <JohnsonE> polpak: I can't figure out how to actually get to the file i just installed :(
[09:35] <polpak> kholerabbi, install the repository from the winehq instructions for ubuntu, then just update your wine version using synaptic
[09:35] <polpak> JohnsonE, look on the "C" drive for it ~/.wine/c_drive I think it is
[09:36] <kholerabbi> polpak: ok thanks :)
[09:36] <JohnsonE> it's drive_c
[09:36] <polpak> JohnsonE, well there you go then
[09:37] <amac> why is firefox so slow?
[09:37] <polpak> JohnsonE, you can run any .exe program by using wine
[09:37] <amac> the interface seems laggy
[09:37] <polpak> JohnsonE, wine /path/to/program.exe
[09:37] <polpak> amac, ask the firefox developers
[09:37] <JohnsonE> what if it has a space in it? >_>
[09:37] <JohnsonE> program files
[09:37] <kholerabbi> Are there any high graphics games designed to specifically encompass linux?
[09:37] <polpak> JohnsonE, Program\ Files
[09:37] <JohnsonE> ok
[09:37] <polpak> JohnsonE, or "Program Files"
[09:37] <polpak> with quotes
[09:38] <polpak> kholerabbi, quake (all of them), ut2004, NWN, Savage, Savage 2, Vendetta Online all work natively under linux
[09:38] <polpak> kholerabbi, there are others also
[09:38] <SurfnKid> how can i have gcalctool multiply 8*8 over and over
[09:40] <dotheuganda> how do i move files from an ubuntu hard drive to a windows formatted hard drive?????
[09:40] <polpak> !ntfs
[09:40] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[09:41] <enyc> dotheuganda: well you mean partition?
[09:41] <mrmist> I've got some serious issues with the smp-package
[09:41] <dotheuganda> no a different hard drive
[09:41] <JohnsonE> ahhh it keeps crashing wine when i load the gunz launcher :(
[09:41] <dotheuganda> with windows on it
[09:41] <nickrud> mrmist, a stab in the dark but do you use an ltmodem?
[09:41] <dsas> SurfnKid: go to view then scientific, you should have the powers button then.
[09:41] <enyc> dotheuganda: hrrrm what filesystem?
[09:41] <polpak> !tell dotheuganda about mount
[09:41] <polpak> !tell dotheuganda about ntfs
[09:42] <mrmist> When booting, the progress screen gets all messed up...
[09:42] <enyc> dotheuganda: FAT12/16/32? NTFS?
[09:42] <JohnsonE> is VMWare more reliable in terms of game support?
[09:42] <JohnsonE> wine isn't supporting the only game i want to play
[09:42] <DBO> yes, it reliably wont support games
[09:42] <enyc> JohnsonE: that is a full machine ewulation
[09:42] <polpak> JohnsonE, what game
[09:42] <JohnsonE> gunz
[09:42] <polpak> JohnsonE, never heard of it
[09:43] <polpak> JohnsonE, learn to play GO =)
[09:43] <JohnsonE> it's a free one.
[09:43] <enyc> JohnsonE: and does not do 3d-acceleration generally.
[09:43] <JohnsonE> argh..
[09:43] <polpak> JohnsonE, there are lots of free games
[09:43] <JohnsonE> the gunz launcher loads and wine freaks out
[09:43] <JohnsonE> the launcher uses torrents to download updates.. might that do it?
[09:43] <dotheuganda> fat
[09:43] <enyc> though vmware has experimontal directx driver support
[09:43] <dotheuganda> 32
[09:44] <enyc> dotheuganda: aah that will be okay
[09:44] <u847413> morning guys, can someone please tell me how i can upgrade from hoary hedgehog to dapper  ?
[09:44] <polpak> JohnsonE, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Native_Games  http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Non_Native_Game
[09:44] <enyc> dotheuganda: you need to get it mounted...
[09:44] <polpak> !upgrade
[09:44] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[09:44] <dotheuganda> how do i mount it?
[09:44] <polpak> !tell dotheuganda about mount
[09:44] <bdmp__> I upgraded to dapper and the network device changed from eth0 to eth1. In the new eth1 my HWaddr is 00:00:00:00:00:00. When I restarted with the old kernal eth0 was back and its HWaddr was 00:90:99:BC:AE:C7. If I change the HWaddr in eth1 to that will my network work? If so how do I do that?
[09:44] <enyc> u847413: you will need to upgrade Hoary to Breezy first ;-)
[09:44] <enyc> u847413: then Breezy to Dapper ;-)
[09:45] <polpak> dotheuganda, read the message ubotu sent you
[09:45] <JohnsonE> i'd go to another game if i had any interest in another game ;_;
[09:45] <polpak> JohnsonE, well then tell the developers to support linux, or at the very least build their game against winelib
[09:45] <joris> Does someone know if it's possible to enable the alt codes to create special characters in open office. like alt + 0128 = euro sign
[09:45] <mrmist> Anyone ?? the "progress screen" isn't supposed to crash...
[09:46] <JohnsonE> the developers are korean.
[09:46] <Fujitsu> ...
[09:46] <Fujitsu> So what, JohnsonE?
[09:46] <polpak> JohnsonE, NMP. Why support a game that doesn't support your OS ?
[09:46] <JohnsonE> because i have a clan >_>
[09:46] <Vaske_Car> guys how long should I use IDE drive for a server? I know that they are not made to work 24/7 like SCSI..
[09:47] <polpak> JohnsonE, is your clan worth having to subject yourself to windows for?
[09:47] <JohnsonE> i.. i don't know.
[09:47] <SurfnKid> dsas, thankx
[09:47] <enyc> Vaske_Car: the interface should not directly be a problem
[09:47] <JohnsonE> it's a moral dilemma
[09:47] <dsas> SurfnKid: no problem.
[09:47] <polpak> JohnsonE, well it's your choice. But there are plenty of fun (and free) games that work very well under linux.
[09:48] <enyc> Vaske_Car: how hot it gets etc. is more important ;-)
[09:48] <nickrud> reminds me of the guy that said something like 'if it's a choice between friends & country, god give the strength to choose friends'
[09:48] <ic56> dotheuganda: I have a script that will setup your FAT drive mountpoint, permissions, and do the initial mount for you.  Want it?
[09:48] <Vaske_Car> enyc, i know but i mean for complete drive. SCSI is made to work 24/7 while IDE drives are for home use...
[09:48] <dsas> Vaske_Car: It's a question that you'll struggle to get an answer for. "until you can afford something better"
[09:48] <revilot> my broadcom WLAN card is not supported by ubuntu, does that mean ndiswrapper will not work?
[09:48] <enyc> Vaske_Car: well thet high_end drives were generally sold with SCSI connectors....
[09:49] <polpak> nickrud, if it's a choice between losing an app (or game) and using windows. I'll lose the app
[09:49] <MTecknology> good night all :)
[09:49] <lecaros> revilot ndiswrapper uses windows drivers, so you must try
[09:49] <enyc> Vaske_Car: that doesnt mean all scsi drives better that PATA drives etc.
[09:49] <polpak> nickrud, nothing is worth going back to windows for
[09:49] <revilot> well i spent all day trying just thought maybe someone might have had some experience
[09:49] <MTecknology> part #ubuntu-offtopic Peace Out
[09:49] <Kimppa> Hi. I want to install Dapper on two computer, on a desktop and a server. My question is, do I need to download both installation cds or can I choose from the desktop cd "server installation"?
[09:49] <nickrud> polpak, true. but keeping windows to keep some friends? I could do that.
[09:49] <MTecknology> part #ubuntu-offtopic Peace_Out
[09:49] <watson540> ` google those lyrics, you will find the nam01.00000000000000000000000e
[09:50] <lecaros> revilot, any message from ndiswrapper?
[09:50] <polpak> nickrud, if they were really friends it wouldn't matter
[09:50] <enyc> Vaske_Car: the scsi bus is inherently more suited to multiiasking lots of drives/ requests  than pata
[09:50] <Vaske_Car> enyc, i have new 18gig scsi that i use for operating system but i ned more space and scsi is very expensive so i will have to go with IDE
[09:50] <SurfnKid> um
[09:50] <neutrinomass> Kimppa: The server one is for servers. It has a different kernel and no X server ....
[09:50] <revilot> lecaros no
[09:50] <SurfnKid> Vaio Laptop doesnt want to read from CDROM
[09:50] <Kimppa> neutrinomass: ok, thanks
[09:50] <nickrud> polpak, I knew I should have left that one be :) I'm in offtopic
[09:50] <SurfnKid> anyone experience this problem?
[09:50] <enyc> Vaske_Car: more important that you sort out backups etc. ;-)
[09:50] <revilot> i followed step by step instructions and no workie
[09:51] <Vaske_Car> eheh
[09:51] <lecaros> revilot, any results of your tries?
[09:51] <revilot> very upsetting
[09:51] <neutrinomass> Kimppa: But AFAIK you need to download the CD. Unless you have a real server, you're probably good with the desktop CD for your server as well ...
[09:51] <revilot> ubuntu looks pwn
[09:51] <uXp> How do you allow a external HD to always show up when bootin?
[09:51] <uXp> because i always have to mount it to see it
[09:51] <Geoffrey2> ok, the su command makes someone a superuser...is that temporary..and if so, how long does it last?
[09:52] <Kimppa> neutrinomass: well it's an old 500 MHz destkop which I'm using to run a web & file server
[09:52] <uXp> till you exit
[09:52] <Kimppa> at least for a starter :)
[09:52] <lecaros> revilot, did you found different drivers for your card?
[09:52] <uXp> yea
[09:52] <dsas> Geoffrey2: you shouldn't really use su (not the ubuntu way). but sudo, which defaults to caching your password for 15 minutes.
[09:52] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, if you use su, as long as the command lasts, I think. If it's sudo, about 15 minutes
[09:52] <revilot> lecaros: i dont really know what im doing but i followed some directions from the ubuntu forum
[09:52] <revilot> lecaros: i tried using ndiswrapper
[09:52] <u847413> thanks , i willdo it now
[09:53] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to install an application that apparently won't install under sudo, but requires either su or root
[09:53] <uXp> How do you allow a external HD to always show up when bootin?
[09:53] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, then sudo -i for a root shell
[09:53] <polpak> Geoffrey2, what kind of lame application is that?
[09:53] <gharz> guys, i'm trying to install the latest version of Java from Sun. i noticed that the wiki.ubuntu doesn't have the support on it. i was doing the fake root blah blah commands and now i can't find it.
[09:53] <lecaros> revilot, ok. look for drivers on google, using yous lsmod -n results
[09:53] <neutrinomass> Kimppa: Well it depends on you. If I had a home file-server, I wouldn't bother installing the server edition. How much RAM do you have ?
[09:53] <Hoxzer_> Geez
[09:53] <Hoxzer_> any other text editor than gedit that would support search
[09:53] <dsas> !tell gharz about java
[09:53] <lecaros> gharz, on dapper?
[09:53] <gharz> yes
[09:53] <Hoxzer_> >_< gedit just crashes and gives error when trying to search
[09:53] <Geoffrey2> polpak CodeWeavers Crossover
[09:54] <neutrinomass> Geoffrey2: How can the application tell it's being run as sudo and not as superuser ? :-/
[09:54] <Kimppa> neutrinomass: yeah, it's just for home usage.. Hmm... can't remember, around 256mb
[09:54] <lecaros> !tell lecaros about java
[09:54] <lecaros> :)
[09:54] <Fr0Gs> hey all
[09:54] <Fr0Gs> wats up
[09:55] <uXp> where do oyu get that prog bdesk or wahtever its called to make it look like objectdock?
[09:55] <bdmp__> what is the command to reboot?
[09:55] <nickrud> sudo reboot ?
[09:55] <tripox> bdmp__: init 6 or reboot
[09:55] <neutrinomass> Kimppa: As I said before it's up to. But with 256MB you can even run KDE on it ;) I'd suggest going for the desktop installation, because you might want to actually use the computer for one reason or another (and using a computer with X isn't that exciting, it gets old fast).
[09:55] <uXp> reboot
[09:56] <bdmp__> thanks
[09:56] <uXp> old because you can't install half of windows stuff?
[09:56] <Kimppa> neutrinomass: ok, I'll give it a shot :) Thanks
[09:56] <gharz> dsas, the latest version is update 7. the one in repo, i guess, is update 6.
[09:57] <mrmist> After installing the SMP support, my progress screen when booting gets really cluttered... the graphics gets really messed up. Anyone know why ??
[09:57] <uXp> !java
[09:57] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[09:57] <SurfnKid> Installation Question:
[09:57] <uXp> !javadebs
[09:57] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[09:57] <cyphase> what's a good laptop that works well with dapper?
[09:57] <SurfnKid> Sony Vaio fails to install The failingg step is : Detect and mount CD-ROM
[09:57] <SurfnKid> Anyone know why?
[09:58] <bdmp__> cyphase: I bet any ibm
[09:58] <neutrinomass> SurfnKid: Have you checked the CD ?
[09:58] <dsas> gharz: You're right. Is there a reason why 6 isn't good enough?
[09:58] <Flash_> bdmp - thinkpad r50e fails during livecd boot due to I/O errors on the special ibm partition
[09:58] <bdmp__> oh
[09:58] <JohnsonE> if i want to install VCL will i need all the plugins with it?
[09:59] <Flash_> fdisk would fix that tho, I bet
[09:59] <gharz> dsas, i just want the latest one. :) just like my latest ubuntu. :) i want everything latest. :)
[09:59] <JohnsonE> VLC*
[09:59] <neutrinomass> cyphase: There's www.linux-laptop.net which you might find useful ...
[09:59] <uXp> how do i set it so when i log into ubuntu all the HD get mounted because right now i have to manually mount my external HD
[09:59] <bdmp__> I have an averatec
[09:59] <bdmp__> it works
[09:59] <gharz> dsas, i still can remember there were comands like fake blah blah...
[09:59] <dsas> gharz: Hate to tell you, lots of packages in ubuntu are a point release or so behind.
[09:59] <Starseed> JohnsonE: no, they're builtin
[09:59] <JohnsonE> k thanks
[09:59] <dsas> !tell gharz about javadebs
[09:59] <SurfnKid> neutrinomass, It boots to the main Ubuntu screen and starts running the setup up until that stage when it gives out that error. I set up this laptop with that CD no probs.
[09:59] <dsas> gharz: sorry, wrong one
[09:59] <uXp> how do i set it so when i log into ubuntu all the HD get mounted because right now i have to manually mount my external HD
[09:59] <JohnsonE> does it have the alsa and stuff built in too though?
[10:00] <mrmist> progress screen CRASHES during boot. Anyone !?!?
[10:00] <neutrinomass> SurfnKid: Hm... The LiveCD or the alternate ?
[10:00] <gharz> dsas, it was in wiki couple of days ago.
[10:00] <gharz> now i can't find it.
[10:00] <SurfnKid> neutrinomass, Its on a DVD
[10:00] <gharz> there was an instruction to install fake blah blah before installing the latest version.
[10:00] <dsas> gharz: fakeroot probably, if you give me 2 ticks i'll find the instructionsn out
[10:01] <Geoffrey2> neutrinomass, I'm new to Linux, so I have absolutely no idea...the program is a shell self installer.. it starts to run and then a message pops up that says $HOME must exist and belong to you, you may need to log in as root or use su instead of sudo
[10:01] <SurfnKid> neutrinomass, the full 3.2GB setup
[10:01] <neutrinomass> SurfnKid: I'm not familiar with the DVD. Do you use the livecd installer though? (ubiquity )
[10:01] <gharz> dsas, ok... let me think it again.
[10:01] <SurfnKid> neutrinomass, not sure, I just follow the steps on the screen
[10:02] <uXp> how do i set it so when i log into ubuntu all the HD get mounted because right now i have to manually mount my external HD
[10:02] <dsas> gharz: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=recall&rev=340#head-fabecb1554d75cd3116507e4da83335d4e4f8f3e
[10:02] <Fr0Gs> ATI Works Really Well On Ubuntu 4.10 :D
[10:02] <zcat[1] > uXp: list them all in /etc/fstab
[10:02] <gharz> dsas, this is what i'm looking for !!!!!
[10:02] <gharz> thanks
[10:03] <dsas> gharz: no problemo
[10:03] <Geoffrey2> oh well, I'll give sudo -i a shot and see if that does the trick
[10:03] <uXp> whats the full code
[10:03] <neutrinomass> SurfnKid: When following the steps on the screen 1. Can you do anything else in the background? 2. Is it sort of ugly and you think to yourself "Hm.. Suse has a better installer?" ? If yes, that's the alternate CD ;)
[10:04] <JohnsonE> they need to hurry up with a linux version of utorrent..
[10:04] <snoops> after installing compiz and xgl I've lost my right click menu in terminal - what's up with that?
[10:04] <snoops> and how can I fix it?
[10:04] <SurfnKid> neutrinomass, I downloaded Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy the full DVD and I installed it on m my Dell 8600.  works just fine. I also have the 6.06 DVD just in case but that took almost an hour to get to a screen, bah, so I took the 5.10 DVD and tried to boot but throws out that error
[10:04] <wolly_wotsit> wolly_wotsit so once i have run dist-upgrade, what do i need to do to get dapper working?
[10:04] <wolly_wotsit> i had breezy
[10:05] <SurfnKid> neutrinomass, i could do stuff I could install server and OEM but not sure how to do that
[10:05] <hoodlum> hi
[10:05] <NoUse> SurfnKid have you tried upgrading to 6.06 using your DVD?
[10:05] <SurfnKid> sup hoodlum
[10:06] <neutrinomass> SurfnKid: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/40825 The last comment describes a similar situation.... File a new bug though, against "Ubuntu" in general and wait for someone to assign it to the correct place ...
[10:06] <SurfnKid> NoUse, mmm
[10:06] <Geoffrey2> nope, sudo -i returns /bin/sh: cannot execute binary file
[10:06] <hoodlum> i downloaded the restricted modules for ubuntu hoary hedgehog amd64 edition, im a newb to linux, so how do i install the .deb file i have downloaded?
[10:06] <steveO_> dpkg or something
[10:06] <steveO_> google is yo' friend.
[10:07] <SurfnKid> NoUse, well I have 2 laptops, this dell is working 100%.  The Vaio I want to put Ubuntu Breezy or Dapper, but Dapper takes forever to boot and still doesnt get anywhere.. and Breezy throws a CDROM error.  Im not sure what you mean upgrading
[10:07] <SurfnKid> neutrinomass, ok let me read that
[10:07] <hoodlum> so, i'd guess it'd be cd'ing to the directory the deb file is in then dpkg?
[10:07] <neutrinomass> hoodlum: You are on Hoary or dapper? If the latter, you can just double click on it. On Hoary you would hve to do "dpkg -i blah.deb" ...
[10:07] <dotheuganda> thanks dudes
[10:07] <NoUse> SurfnKid oh sorry I didn't realize you were talking about two machines
[10:07] <hoodlum> ah thank you neutrinomass  :D
[10:07] <Flash_> surfnkid - dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:08] <hoodlum> and yeah, i havent got dapper yet
[10:08] <JohnsonE> is azureus the best available BT client for linux?
[10:08] <Ace_blend> is ubuntu live still available?
[10:08] <SurfnKid> NoUse, its ok, I guess ill look for Kubuntu and download that
[10:09] <NoUse> SurfnKid well the kubuntu CD is nearly identical to the ubuntu CD
[10:09] <SurfnKid> NoUse, oh
[10:09] <NoUse> SurfnKid just different desktops
[10:09] <SurfnKid> Flash_, ?
[10:09] <SurfnKid> yeah xfce thats what i heard
[10:09] <NoUse> SurfnKid have you looked at the wiki's collection of alternative install methods?
[10:09] <SurfnKid> got a link?
[10:10] <Ace_blend> hey there used to be an ubuntu download so you could start up ubuntu right from the cd, is it still there?
[10:10] <Ace_blend> I mean from boot up
[10:10] <gdb> Ace_blend: It's all that's availalbe (unless installing the server edition).  Ubuntu 6.06 is installed using the live CD.
[10:10] <NoUse> SurfnKid https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[10:11] <gdb> kubuntu = KDE, xubuntu = xfce, ubuntu = gnome (for the others wondering).
[10:11] <NoUse> SurfnKid you might look into the first one under the "advanced" methods
[10:11] <alan|laptop> hi all
[10:11] <gdb> All other software is identical between them.
[10:11] <SurfnKid> arggh stupid CDROM now i got a CRC error.! thats bull, I am running 5.10 here on this laptop from that same DVD. Sony Vaio just sucks
[10:11] <Geoffrey2> looks like su is the only way this app is going to install....sudo itself won't work, and when I try sudo -i I get a message from /bin/sh that it "cannot execute binary file"
[10:11] <watson540> 111111111.
[10:11] <alan|laptop> it's my first build from source under ubuntu, and i get this error : /bin/sh: scripts/genksyms/genksyms: No such file or directory. Can anyone explain ?
[10:11] <Ace_blend> ah there used to be two versions
[10:12] <wolly_wotsit> Last night, somone told me to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade when i asked how to upgrade from breezy
[10:12] <SurfnKid> NoUse, ok I'll look at that
[10:12] <hoodlum> omg
[10:12] <hoodlum> i still cant access my wireless after installing the restricted modules
[10:12] <wolly_wotsit> does any one know the next step?
[10:12] <hoodlum> in networking it doesnt detect the wireless dev
[10:12] <wolly_wotsit> ang on
[10:12] <wolly_wotsit> hoodlum
[10:12] <myworld122> can tell me how to install compiz n XGL on Ubuntu?....btw i a newbie in linux
[10:13] <hoodlum> yes wolly_wotsit
[10:13] <NoUse> !xgl
[10:13] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:13] <gdb> Geoffrey2: That's not because of sudo.  That's because you're asking /bin/sh (in whatever manner) to execute a non-excutable file.
[10:13] <wolly_wotsit> try sudo ifup wlan0 (or whatever your card would be called)
[10:13] <myworld122> thanks!
[10:13] <hoodlum> yep
[10:13] <gdb> Geoffrey2: To see this for yourself, try to run, say, a tar file.
[10:13] <wolly_wotsit> hoodlum: try sudo ifup wlan0 (or whatever your card would be called)
[10:13] <hoodlum> yep, i tried that.
[10:13] <wolly_wotsit> oh
[10:13] <wolly_wotsit> ok
[10:13] <hoodlum> unknown interface
[10:14] <wolly_wotsit> have you just tried sudo ifup?
[10:14] <wolly_wotsit> cos that tells you whats installed doesn't it
[10:14] <Fujitsu> hoodlum, what type of wireless card?
[10:15] <compubomb> i'm running drapper, is it possible to install the new xgl xserver and have all those eye-candy effects ?
[10:15] <hoodlum> 108mbps netgear
[10:15] <compubomb> via apt-get
[10:15] <NoUse> !xgl
[10:15] <Geoffrey2> gdb, hmm, the file has an sh extension...supposedly a self installing shell script
[10:15] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:15] <wolly_wotsit> is it a wg8?
[10:15] <gdb> Geoffrey2: Can you run the 'file' command on it and see what it says?
[10:15] <dsas> Geoffrey2: The file needs to be marked as executable on the filesystem though
[10:15] <zcat[1] > compubomb: It's possible if you have a video card that supports it..
[10:15] <gdb> Geoffrey2: $ file foo.sh
[10:15] <hoodlum> it uses the atheros chipset
[10:15] <wolly_wotsit> hmm
[10:15] <hoodlum> so i was trying to install madwifi
[10:15] <compubomb> zcat[1] : i have opengl
[10:16] <compubomb> nvidia
[10:16] <gdb> Geoffrey2: should tell you what kind of file it is -- might not be something you can execute -- then again, you say it's a script and /bin/sh is giving the error.  It's likely the script is trying to execute something that's not a program.
[10:16] <wolly_wotsit> have you tried a different driver for it
[10:16] <wolly_wotsit> sometimes the older ones work
[10:16] <zcat[1] > compubomb: as long as it's not a tnt2 :) I've givin up trying to get xgl working on my older nvidia cards.
[10:16] <redrum> or a 9xxx series ATI card
[10:16] <troy_s> greetz guys
[10:17] <zcat[1] > Yey, I have some voodoo cards here too!! :)
[10:17] <redrum> me too
[10:17] <zcat[1] > can you do opengl stuff with those?
[10:17] <TheSheep> maybe they could be used as a co-processor or something
[10:18] <Geoffrey2> gdb, file responded that it was a "Bourne shell script text executable"
[10:18] <redrum> yup they rxx0r for opengl, but a lot werent standalone video cards
[10:18] <zcat[1] > Geoffrey2: chmod +x foo.sh and then ./foo.sh  should run it.
[10:19] <TheSheep> redrum: mine is passtrough
[10:19] <gdb> Geoffrey2: Can you pastebin it somewhere?
[10:19] <mrmist> I'd like to BUILD a kernel for my system. Anyone know how to do it ?
[10:19] <Geoffrey2> the file is a demo of the CodeWeavers Crossover package
[10:20] <wolly_wotsit> anyway
[10:21] <wolly_wotsit> is there any way to upgrade to dapper from breezy without having to burn a cd?
[10:21] <gdb> Geoffrey2: Well, that error simply means that the system is trying to "run" a file that has execute permissions but is not a program file.  For example, a tar file, a sound file, or anything else that is not executable code, but may have execute permissions set.
[10:21] <TheSheep> wolly_wotsit: sure, it's described on the wiki
[10:21] <Flannel> !tell wolly_wotsit about upgrade
[10:22] <dibblego> what do I need to do to play a DVD?
[10:22] <gdb> Without reading the script, though, I can't tell you which line in there is trying to do that.
[10:22] <dsas> !tell dibblego about dvd
[10:22] <zcat[1] > gdb: the error may also be coming from something withing the script rather than from trying to run the script itself...
[10:22] <wolly_wotsit> thesheep: Really, i couldn't find it anywhere
[10:22] <wolly_wotsit> thanks
[10:22] <dibblego> cheers
[10:22] <zcat[1] > dibblego: libdvdcss mostly...
[10:22] <wolly_wotsit> oh wow
[10:22] <schalken> i cant believe ubuntu automatically detected my windows partition and configured grub so i can choose my OS on boot! thats awesome!
[10:23] <Eleaf> woot!
[10:23] <Flannel> mrmucha: take a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowTos  it links to a lot of information
[10:23] <Geoffrey2> gdb, when the program terminates I get the message "The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.3"
[10:23] <steveO_> schalken: seems to detect wireless cards great and it also offers to burn cd's pretty nicely too.
[10:23] <wolly_wotsit> flannel: thankd
[10:23] <wolly_wotsit> *thanks
[10:23] <zcat[1] > schalken: you're easily impressed. Every linux distro has done that since about redhat 4.0 or earlier.
[10:23] <steveO_> i wonder how it'll deal with this USB printer i wanna hook up
[10:23] <steveO_> hp laserjet 1000
[10:24] <schalken> where can i get a plugin for NTFS for GParted?
[10:24] <compubomb> zcat[1] : it's a gf2mx400
[10:24] <zcat[1] > And I expect windows Vista will _still_ overwrite the MBR with no consideration whatsoever..
[10:24] <Eleaf> haha
[10:25] <SurfnKid> NoUse, Booted to 6.06 and detected the cdrom. Its 5.10 that doesnt. weird
[10:25] <ic56> !fixmbr
[10:25] <wolly_wotsit> ooh shit
[10:25] <wolly_wotsit> lol
[10:25] <wolly_wotsit> dapper was already installed
[10:25] <Flannel> wolly_wotsit: watch your language please
[10:25] <gdb> Geoffrey2: Hrm, I'm not sure why it would be telling you that other than it's probably related to the previous error.  The libc installed with the system is glibc 2.3.6.
[10:25] <wolly_wotsit> sowwi
[10:26] <schalken> is it possible to resize an NTFS partition from GParted?
[10:27] <TheSheep> schalken: you have to unmount it
[10:27] <schalken> TheSheep: it is unmounted. its a windows partition. im in ubuntu.
[10:27] <graveson> is there any documentatation for configuring DVB's and mythtv -if so where can i find it
[10:28] <TheSheep> schalken: well, it worked for me...
[10:28] <mattikoo> Hello. I have tried to use k7-kernel and my children have freezed this computer many times with normal use. Is it stabil kernel?
[10:28] <kmyth> www.google.com
[10:29] <sephran> hey does anyone know the command to add a windows HD partition when booted live? Or a page with instructions?
[10:29] <dsas> graveson: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MythTV
[10:29] <dsas> !tell sephran about fat
[10:29] <Geoffrey2> gdb, and of course, the instructions on their website say all you should need to do is run the script....just open a file browser and double click it
[10:29] <TheSheep> mattikoo: k7 is the name of processor, the version is the part that looks like 2.6.23
[10:29] <dsas> !tell sephran about ntfs
[10:29] <TheSheep> mattikoo: you need to use the kernel for the processor you have
[10:30] <mattikoo> TheSheep: My processor is Duron 800. Is it wrong?
[10:30] <sephran> thanks dsas
[10:30] <kholerabbi> Hello
[10:31] <kholerabbi> I know the primary user has to have a password for sudo, but do additional users need passwords, or can they just use the same password for sudo??
[10:31] <dibblego> how do I install libdvdcss? http://rafb.net/paste/results/KSCpX435.html
[10:31] <cdkey> new users are not in root group so they they can't do sudo
[10:31] <Geoffrey2> gdb, I open the File Browser, double click the file, and gedit tries to open it
[10:31] <zcat[1] > kholerabbi: additional users have to be granted admin access, and will then use their own login password for sudo.
[10:32] <mattikoo> TheSheep: Computer runs right so long as I use only Ubuntu. When I install KUbuntu, too, problems comes.
[10:32] <dehleez> dapper will upgrade the kernel  from 2.6.15 to 2.6.x ?
[10:32] <dibblego> http://rafb.net/paste/results/6l8lOA22.html contains /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:32] <Frogzoo> mattikoo: k7 is for amd pcs - what cpu do you have? pentium or amd? 32 or 64 bit?
[10:33] <enyc> dehleez: should do...
[10:33] <TheSheep> mattikoo: duron is k7 alright
[10:33] <gdb> Geoffrey2: This script that you have, does it have the execute bit set?
[10:33] <sephran>  fdisk /dev/hda
[10:33] <sephran>   ..result: Unable to open /dev/hda
[10:33] <sephran>     ....HD truelly busted?
[10:33] <mattikoo> Frogzoo: amd 800
[10:33] <enyc> dehleez: the linux-k7 or linux-686 or linux-386 package etc. should then install a 2.6.15 kernel
[10:33] <TheSheep> mattikoo: but the problems may come from graphics card, for example
[10:33] <gdb> Geoffrey2: I'm guessing it's mode 644 and not 755 (or other appropriate permission set).  Can you paste an ls -l output of it here?
[10:34] <mattikoo> TheSheep: I use nvidia drivers
[10:34] <Frogzoo> sephran: sudo
[10:34] <KenSentMe|afk> !tell kholerabbi about sudo
[10:34] <dehleez> enyc: i mean it will upgrade the kernel in genral.. like to the new versions
[10:34] <mattikoo> TheSheep: And My card is GeForce MX 400
[10:34] <KenSentMe|afk> kholerabbi: there is written how you can give other users sudo access
[10:34] <enyc> dehleez: dapper should install a 2.6.15 ;-)
[10:34] <TheSheep> mattikoo: nvidia or the default nv ?
[10:35] <mattikoo> TheSheep: nvidia
[10:35] <enyc> dehleez: so compared to hoary/breezy -- yes
[10:35] <TheSheep> mattikoo: does it also happen with nv drivers?
[10:35] <mattikoo> TheSheep: no
[10:35] <TheSheep> mattikoo: in your xorg.conf, do you have 'Option "nvagp"' line?
[10:36] <mattikoo> wait a minute
[10:36] <dehleez> enyc: yah.. but dapper will remain 2.6.15? or will go to newer versions like ex. 2.6.20 and so on
[10:36] <Geoffrey2> gdb, ah, that would be the problem...it's set to 644
[10:36] <enyc> dehleez: dapper base unlikely to change kernel except security-patches
[10:37] <gdb> Geoffrey2: Ah, yes, then /bin/sh is complaining about not being able to execute the script itself. ;-)  Once you chmod that, you should meet with more success.
[10:37] <dehleez> enyc: i dont want to go into compiling... runing away :P
[10:37] <cwillu_> dehleez; why do ask (just tuning in)
[10:37] <Flannel> dapper will not change kernel version, just security fixes
[10:37] <enyc> dehleez: but there May be kernels in dapper-backports later... or you can build your own ;-)
[10:37] <Geoffrey2> gdb, -rw-r--r--
[10:37] <Pitersburgs> Flannel: but will it backport driver bug fixes?
[10:37] <Flannel> Pitersburgs: security fixes, yes, no new features though.
[10:38] <Pitersburgs> Flannel: clear
[10:38] <mattikoo> TheSheep: No, I don't have this line
[10:38] <mloskot> hi
[10:38] <cwillu_> dehleez; building a stock kernel is pretty straightforward, and while some things will break, the general thing works
[10:38] <dehleez> enyc: i wanted d/l the new kernel to compile.. but wanted to make sure the dapper will do it for me or not.. im mean auto upgradeing
[10:38] <frfx> can i install OpenOffice Impress without installing the whole OO Suite?
[10:38] <TheSheep> mattikoo: in the 'Driver' section, just next to 'driver "nvidia"', add 'Option "NvAgp" "1"'
[10:38] <TheSheep> mattikoo: and see if that works
[10:39] <mattikoo> TheSheep: Thank you very much :)
[10:39] <justin__> hello
[10:39] <TheSheep> mattikoo: first see if it works
[10:39] <dibblego> after sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2, how do I play a DVD?
[10:39] <kholerabbi> Hmmm... what I really meant was whether additional users NEEDED a password for logon..
[10:39] <TheSheep> mattikoo: if might be something totally different
[10:39] <mloskot> I have problems with changing background on my newly updated breezy to dapper box.  I change the background using gnome-control-center but after I logged out/in I have the orange/brown background back. I tried to use gconf-editor and save my session, nothing helps.
[10:39] <mloskot> Is this a known issue?
[10:40] <zcat[1] > kholerabbi: when you add users you will usually be prompted for a password for them
[10:40] <tau> Hi, I've just (finally) installed Dapper and have a quick question.  Apart from it rudely having uninstalled Mozilla on me (Firefox sucks), which I quickly reinstalled, there appears to be no "save current setup" option on the logout menu anymore - does anyone know how I can switch this option back on, or save my session setup from some other dialog?
[10:40] <SurfnKid> how can I compile APM in my kernel and know if it even supports it
[10:40] <dehleez> cwillu since its 6.06 LTS... shuold upgrade its self in overall
[10:40] <snoops> I'm noticing I'm accidently killing x when I press shift + backspace together by accident..how can I disable that?
[10:40] <Flannel> frfx: looks like it.  OpenOffice2-impress
[10:40] <zcat[1] > snoops: shift-backspace or ctrl-alt-backspace?
[10:40] <Flannel> frfx: but, do you not already have ubuntu desktop installed?
[10:40] <sephran> when I do fdisk /dev/hda , shouldnt I get my HD information?
[10:41] <cwillu_> dehleez; you're not going to get new features automatically, but you will get security updates;  you should end up with exactly the final version of dapper, supported (getting fixes, etc) for 5 years
[10:41] <frfx> Flannel: yes, but when i upgraded from breezy to dapper my OO disappeared..
[10:41] <kholerabbi> thanks
[10:41] <snoops> shift backspace
[10:41] <Flannel> frfx: it shouldn't have.
[10:41] <gdb> sephran: fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:41] <kmyth> hi, i've a 100gb drive but Ubuntu 6.06 recognizes as 50gb, anyone knows why?
[10:41] <kmyth> thanks
[10:41] <kholerabbi> Anyone know if there is a dvd unencrypter for ubuntu?
[10:41] <Flannel> frfx: did you uninstall ubuntu-desktop sometime in breezy?
[10:41] <mattikoo> TheSheep: I try
[10:41] <zcat[1] > kholerabbi: k9copy, acidrip ..
[10:42] <frfx> Flannel: no i just did a dist-upgrade
[10:42] <snoops> I'd like to keep ctrl-alt-backspace.. since I don't accidently hit that much
[10:42] <snoops> maybe if I could get it to be ctrl-alt-backspace-backspace if possible
[10:42] <kholerabbi> thanks - I'll check them out
[10:42] <snoops> and get rid of shift-backspace entirely
[10:42] <zcat[1] > snoops: not sure how you managed to bind shift-backspace, I don't think it's a default...
[10:43] <Geoffrey2> gdb, apparently this is not meant to be....I set the x flag, and it still comes back with a message that $HOME must exist and belong to me, and that I may need to log in as root or use su instead of sudo
[10:43] <snoops> I am like a kid in a candy store so I might have turned something on I shouldn't have
[10:43] <cwillu_> dehleez; if you need new driver support, you'll probably need to install a newer kernel;  a stock binary may work (don't know having not tried it), but you can certainly compile a kernel from stock;  only thing I've noticed that didn't work was the fancy boot and shutdown screens, again, having not tried anything other than what I use myself (my normal desktop usage)
[10:43] <snoops> where do I go to see all the binded keys?
[10:43] <kholerabbi> Grrr.. I have the quicktime+itunes installation running under wine.. but the install/progress bar just get near the end then restarts - over and over again :0 lol
[10:43] <Flannel> frfx: right, but unless you uninstalled ubuntu-desktop (the meta package, did you uninstall anything while using breezy?) you should have OOo now.
[10:43] <Khamael> s there a howto for playing videos in firefox? when I try, I only get sound
[10:43] <zcat[1] > probably System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[10:44] <Frogzoo> !tell kholerabbi about libdvdcss2
[10:44] <kholerabbi> thanks
[10:44] <Geoffrey2> sudo -i continues to complain that it cannot execute binary file
[10:44] <cwillu_> dehleez; I'm also somewhat drunk, so take everything I say with a grain of salt
[10:44] <gdb> Geoffrey2: Well, there is always sudu -i :-)  Run that without arguments to get a root shell.
[10:44] <gdb> $ sudo -i
[10:44] <gdb> #
[10:44] <cwillu_> sudo -s isn't it?
[10:44] <kholerabbi> Also, what should normally be done at the question "Is the hardware clock set to GMT".. if you don not know the anser???
[10:44] <gdb> It is sudo -i
[10:44] <frfx> Flannel: no i had OO in breezy..but now it's gone..
[10:44] <dsas> cwillu_: sudo -i and sudo -s are different.
[10:44] <Starseed> I need to compile my own amarok it looks like .. why wouldn't they include ipod support ? espescially since 1.4 boasts improved support
[10:45] <dehleez> cwillu: there are alot of perblems im facing in dapper wasnt in breeezy.. sound.. nvidia.. slowww system
[10:45] <snoops> hmm there's nothing in keyboard shortcuts for quitting x zcat[1] 
[10:45] <mundial> hi
[10:45] <gdb> -s gives you root in the current directory with your uid set to your real uid and your euid set to 0
[10:45] <dsas> cwillu_: One runs roots profile the other doesn't.
[10:45] <mundial> how can i run rpm files in ubuntu?
[10:45] <zcat[1] > sudo -i gives you a true root login, sudo -s keeps your current environment, $HOME and $PATH and stuff which is usually less than you want..
[10:45] <Geoffrey2> ok, I now have a root@jeffrey-laptop:
[10:45] <sephran> gdb: I sent you a pm
[10:45] <dsas> mundial: You can use alien
[10:45] <tau> hello?
[10:45] <cwillu_> kholerabbi; if your system clock ("hit delete to enter system setup" thingy) is set to your local time, then I believe 'no' is the answer
[10:45] <gdb> -i gives you a "root login" with your uid and euid both set to 0
[10:45] <Tommy3D> f
[10:45] <Flannel> frfx: right, did you uninstall anything that came pre installed on breezy?
[10:45] <gdb> sephran: You did?
[10:45] <cwillu_> dsas; ahhh, thanks, that explains some issues I've had recently :)
[10:46] <Tommy3D> Hi, i was wondering how you create a custom network interface - like in redhat with the redhat-network-config tool, but for ubuntu?
[10:46] <mundial> how alien is starts from ubuntu?
[10:46] <sephran> yea..but ah now I remember, cant pm unless registerred
[10:46] <gdb> Think of sudo -i as "su -l" and sudo -s as "su" ;-)
[10:46] <ic56> !whysudo
[10:46] <SurfnKid> Q?: Does anyone know how to compile APM to the kernel
[10:46] <dehleez> cwillu: i'll try to compile the dapper kernel... is it ok? and i still can get the patches from apt aupdate fro the kernel ?
[10:46] <Flannel> you people shouldn't recommend using su (in any form)
[10:46] <dibblego> what is the name of the package for Xine?
[10:46] <Tommy3D> Better to use sudo
[10:47] <Flannel> dehleez: no.  if you compile your own, how could you get automatic patches?
[10:47] <_Raldz_> just a quick question.. how do I convert RPM to DEB? I got a RPM package of VMWARE and want to install it on Ubuntu.. I know it's just a single commend.
[10:47] <Flannel> you'll have to recompile each time a patch is issued
[10:47] <Flannel> !tell _Raldz_ about alien
[10:47] <sephran> did you receive it now gdb?
[10:47] <Flannel> _Raldz_: why not use the deb of VMware?
[10:47] <_Raldz_> because I don't have it
[10:47] <dehleez> Flannel: ill compile the dapper one... not my own.? will i get the patches ?
[10:48] <cwillu_> dehleez; sorry, when I said stock, I meant like root linux kernel;  no, you loose the convenience of apt-get update :/
[10:48] <_Raldz_> no options in downloads
[10:48] <Flannel> _Raldz_: just stock VMWare?
[10:48] <Flannel> !tell _Raldz_ about vmware
[10:48] <dehleez> uhhh seems i sould stuck with dapper for 5 years then..
[10:48] <_Raldz_> only RPM and TGZ
[10:48] <zcat[1] > tau: reply to what?
[10:48] <Flannel> _Raldz_: read that link
[10:49] <_Raldz_> okies.. tnx..
[10:49] <tau> I'm trying to find out how to re-enable the "save current setup" option on the dapper logout menu
[10:49] <Flannel> _Raldz_: it'll tell you the sanctioned methods, you'll probably find someone has made a deb
[10:49] <dehleez> enyc & cwillu_ & Flannel.......... thnx all
[10:49] <dehleez> l8r
[10:49] <cwillu_> dehleez; what slowness are you having?
[10:49] <mattikoo> TheSheep: Thank you very much. It was very fast no with games :)
[10:49] <tau> instead I've got these huge hulking great buttons :p
[10:49] <mattikoo> fast now
[10:49] <dehleez> cwillu_ display
[10:49] <compubomb> anyone in here running xgl in ubuntu ?
[10:50] <compubomb> how do you know it's running ?
[10:50] <zcat[1] > compubomb: yes. And it's great!
[10:50] <Geoffrey2> gdb, The DISPLAY variable is not set.  You should either login to as root or use the command "su" with no flags, to make sure setup has an X display to use.
[10:50] <cwillu_> have you had any success installing the nvidea drivers?
[10:50] <Steven_M> does anyone know of way to change the defult permissions for newly created folders? eg automatically make all new folders 600?
[10:50] <TheSheep> mattikoo: :)
[10:50] <_Raldz_> Flannel: I was thinking executing #dpkg -i *.deb for VMWARE after converting it..
[10:50] <mattikoo> TheSheep: Is it better to use 386
[10:50] <kholerabbi> Now, what dose the "Save current setup" actually do?!
[10:50] <mattikoo> kernel
[10:50] <TheSheep> mattikoo: 386 will work with most any computer
[10:50] <dehleez> cwillu_ i did... it killed my Xwindows
[10:51] <compubomb> ugh!
[10:51] <tau> it saves your current window setup, like where your xterms are and file browser, and other open applications, etc. very useful
[10:51] <TheSheep> mattikoo: k7 has some additional stuff for your processor to speed things up a little
[10:51] <zcat[1] > TheSheep: hmm.. -386 won't work on my powerpc :(
[10:51] <kholerabbi> tau: awesome :) I love and I haven't even tried it yet :):)
[10:51] <cwillu_> okay, what errors did xwindows give when it died?
[10:51] <TheSheep> zcat[1] : *most*
[10:51] <gdb> Geoffrey2: In that case, then you might just stick with "sudo -s" rather than "sudo -i"
[10:51] <tau> well too bad, because dapper doesn't seem to have it anymore !?
[10:51] <tau> so don't upgrade if you want to use it :(
[10:51] <TheSheep> zcat[1] : it won't work on commodore 64 either ;)
[10:52] <kholerabbi> tau what the? why, every other distro I've tried had it?!
[10:52] <tau> unless someone here knows how to re-enable it
[10:52] <tau> well, not any more :(
[10:52] <cwillu_> dehleez; do you have another internet connected machine available close by this one?
[10:52] <zcat[1] > TheSheep: You want Lunix for the c64 ...
[10:52] <kholerabbi> grrr, thanks though ciao :)
[10:52] <mattikoo> TheSheep: Than you for help. I give children now try :)
[10:52] <gdb> If you're talking about the GNOME Save Setup when you log out, that's been removed from GNOME, it's not an Ubuntu issue.
[10:52] <TheSheep> mattikoo: if it's crasheable, children will crash it for sure ;)
[10:52] <tau> here, this blog even gives pictures http://daniel-robitaille.blogspot.com/2006/01/whats-new-in-my-dapper-2.html
[10:53] <Khamael> is it safe to remove gstreamer-0.8 when I have 0.10?
[10:53] <dehleez> cwillu_: no errors i remember, but slow system as Pentium 1.. like old days.. no its the only pc i use P4 2.6 GH ADSL connection
[10:53] <Geoffrey2> TheSheep, go for the gusto, get Ubuntu for the TRS-80/Model III :)
[10:53] <Locke> where is the firefox dir
[10:53] <Locke> for installing flash player for firefox
[10:53] <cwillu_> dehleez; you're running either a safe video mode, or some unaccelerated mode
[10:54] <Locke> 6.06
[10:54] <cwillu_> kinda like in windows with no video driver installed
[10:55] <tau> gdb: removed from GNOME???  well, given the fact that ubuntu *uses* gnome, and that the logout menu forms an integral an important part of its interface, I rather think it is a Ubuntu issue.  Are you suggesting I use Kubuntu instead?
[10:55] <cwillu_> dehleez; have you done a dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver, hitting enter for everything?
[10:55] <troy_s> could easily be lack of the video codec
[10:55] <cwillu_> (don't do it yet if you haven't)
[10:55] <Flannel> tau: no, he's suggesting you take it up with the gnome people
[10:55] <cwillu_> dehleez;  how comfortable are you in a command line?
[10:56] <Frogzoo> Locke: methinks you want 'flashplugin-nonfree'  no need to mess about in directories
[10:56] <Flannel> !tell Locke about flash
[10:56] <cwillu_> dehleez; basically, you want to have a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:56] <tau> uhh well I know it's kind of convenient to pass the buck to someone else, but if you say so, I guess I'll go find the gnome irc channel, if one exists. :(
[10:56] <dehleez> cwillu_: i followd this>> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy
[10:57] <justin__> hello
[10:57] <pankratz> Hi, my KonicaMinolta PagePro 1250W doesn't print and is only shown as "offline". help ;)
[10:57] <cwillu_> dehleez; k, one sec, let me look at it :)
[10:57] <cyberix> What has happened to Rhythmbox in Dapper. It crashes multiple times while playing one album. The controls also stopped working until I restarted it. And once when I stopped it the playing continued even, if the rhythmbox proces didn't exist anymore.
[10:57] <cwillu_> tau;  have you looked at the 'sessions' menu entry in system?
[10:57] <dehleez> cwillu_: in breazy i had no problem at all in almost anything... now with sound and display...
[10:58] <justin__> does vnc work well with games?
[10:58] <Geoffrey2> if I do sudo -s, I shouldn't need to use sudo again to run the command, right?
[10:58] <cwillu_> justin__;  card games, yes, action games, not really
[10:58] <harry> Unable to get exclusive lock
[10:58] <tau> cwillu: curiously, now that you mention it, there is an option there for "ask on logout" but clearly it doesn't :(
[10:58] <tau> (I have it ticked)
[10:58] <justin__> ok, thx
[10:59] <dsas> tau: ubuntu overrode the gnome logout menus.
[10:59] <dehleez> cwillu_: check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[10:59] <cwillu_> tau; I don't know anything in particular, just that it's related
[10:59] <tau> ah, so it *is* a ubuntu issue, not a gnome one??
[10:59] <harry> i was updating my computer and suddenly hanged up so i restarted it. when i loaded it i couldn't run the apt-get dist-updgrade again
[10:59] <harry>  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:59] <tau> zcat: thanks, at least if I have some way of saving sessions it's better than nothing - thanks
[10:59] <dsas> tau: sort of. I believe gnome changed the menus and didn't ask by default. then ubuntu changed gnomes menus to have the one that is there now.
[10:59] <cwillu_> dehleez; what does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like?
[10:59] <harry> I dont know this
[11:00] <dsas> tau: I think there's a gconf switch to revert to the upstream menus.
[11:00] <Xero> Hello.
[11:00] <tau> dsas: a gconf switch?  sorry, what does that mean?
[11:00] <kholerabbi> How do I change the res?
[11:00] <Xero> I need some help install ubuntu.
[11:00] <kholerabbi> resolution*
[11:00] <ic56> !justask
[11:00] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[11:00] <kholerabbi> Xero: go on
[11:01] <cwillu_> tau; gconf is kinda like the windows registry
[11:01] <tau> oh ok
[11:01] <dsas> tau: If you run gconf-editor it'll bring up a lot of advanced configuration things. hidden somewhere in there (maybe in gnome-session or gnome-panel) is the thing to revert to upstream log out menu
[11:01] <Xero> Okay, I downloaded the .iso properly, (I downloaded the Live CD). However, when I go to reboot my computer it simply loads into XP
[11:01] <dehleez> cwillu_: the one used in this guide http://krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide
[11:01] <tau> ahh
[11:01] <sephran> fdisk -l /dev/hda     should show my HD physical information, shouldnt it?
[11:02] <Flannel> Xero: did you burn the CD properly? (burning the iso, not just burning the iso file onto the CD)
[11:02] <harry> Unable to get exclusive lock
[11:02] <harry> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first
[11:02] <Flannel> and, Xero, you might need to change your boot order in your bios.
[11:02] <dsas> sephran: yep, (you are running it with sudo right?)
[11:02] <cwillu_> dehleez; oh boy does that page look like trouble  :)
[11:02] <Xero> I know I burned it properly, because the Demo Browser comes up when I double click it in my D Drive
[11:02] <cwillu_> dehleez; just the old school, here's a bunch of things you can do, hope you know how to fix the things that break :)
[11:03] <Xero> I am just not sure how to change my boot order in my bios.
[11:03] <cwillu_> in any case, you have an xorg.conf backup then?
[11:03] <sephran> well...eh maybe, running it with sudo means..? XD
[11:03] <bungle> dammit 	 got  banned from the other offtopic channel
[11:03] <dsas> sephran: putting "sudo" infront of the command. It runs the application with administrator rights.
[11:03] <sephran> ah..no sudo..Ill do so again
[11:03] <Xero> o.o
[11:03] <Geoffrey2> I hope eventually I learn Linux well enough to figure out how to do things in it.....
[11:04] <kholerabbi> Xero: To change bios settings you should normally click [del]  when your computer starts
[11:04] <dehleez> cwillu_: honestly i installed dapper fresh install.. after system crash :P
[11:04] <Frogzoo> !tell Geoffrey2 about docs
[11:04] <sephran> aah there it is
[11:04] <Flannel> Xero: alright, so, you'll need to reboot, hit del, or whatever to go into your bios (it varies) then change your boot order to make your CDrom before your HD
[11:04] <Xero> I will try, I *might* come back.
[11:04] <cwillu_> except it didn't open it's own window like I wanted it too :/
[11:04] <Xero> Thanks a bunch Flannel :)
[11:04] <Xero> Have a great day/night according to your Time Zone ;p
[11:04] <zcat[1] > hint for everyone; if you typed a long command and forgot to sudo it, just type 'sudo !!' and it will run whatever you just typed again, with sudo...
[11:05] <cwillu_> dehleez; did you get a new conversation window opened?
[11:05] <tau> dsas: I'm looking but I can't find any revert to upstream logout menu option or anything similar :(
[11:05] <sephran> so I'm getting 3 device boots hda1 hda2 and hda5. hda1 and 5 both show hpfs/ntfs. Those are the two partitions of my hd?
[11:05] <Flannel> zcat[1] : just hit up, home, and type sudo.  It's safer ;)
[11:05] <justin__> anyone know how to get output when using glxgears. mine just shows the 3d gears, but no info
[11:05] <zcat[1] > yeah, or that :)
[11:05] <dsas> tau: I'll see if I can find it, give me five minutes
[11:05] <dehleez> cwillu_: nop
[11:05] <Flannel> !tell justin__ about glxgears
[11:05] <tau> dsas: ok thanks
[11:05] <cwillu_> dehleez; try typing /msg cwillu something
[11:05] <dehleez> cwillu_: ok
[11:06] <cwillu_> (tip, select text, and then middle click where you want a copy to show up)
[11:06] <b14ck> i'm having a flash problem. i have no sound when any flash plays in firefox. i have sound everywhere else
[11:06] <aLPHa_LeaK> rather /msg cwillu_ something
[11:06] <tau> dsas: wait, I think I found it
[11:06] <cwillu_> oops
[11:06] <Geoffrey2> whoops, accidentally shut down xchat :)
[11:06] <cwillu_> sorry, forgot I had cwillu logged in elsewhere :p
[11:06] <dsas> tau: try /apps/panel/global/upstream_session
[11:07] <spanglesontoast> is there no javac in ubuntu?
[11:07] <cwillu_> dehleez; make that cwillu_ like aLPHa_LeaK said
[11:07] <tau> dsas: is this it - "Use the upstream session dialogs instead of the Ubuntu one"?
[11:07] <dsas> !tell spanglesontoast about java
[11:07] <dsas> tau: I believe so
[11:07] <cwillu_> tau; probably
[11:07] <dehleez> cwillu_: uhh i thought i had bug in xchat too :P
[11:07] <tau> dsas: cool, ok thanks, I'll give a try
[11:07] <Geoffrey2> !tell Geoffrey2 about java
[11:07] <cwillu_> tau; upstream is the general term for the non-ubuntu hacked version (I'm lying here, but its close enough for government work)
[11:07] <spanglesontoast> doesn't help mate already looked
[11:08] <tau> dsas: is there a way to restart the gnome panel without restarting the x-session or logging out?
[11:08] <tau> hehe
[11:08] <aLPHa_LeaK> dehleez: are you registered on freenode, because only registered people can use /msg
[11:08] <dsas> tau: run kill `pidof gnome-panel` I think
[11:08] <tau> ok
[11:08] <cwillu_> tau, might be able to pkill gnome-panel and then launch it again, but I don't know
[11:08] <dehleez> aLOHa_LeaK: im not regs
[11:08] <sephran> whats the full mount command for /dev/hda1, ntfs partition?
[11:08] <cwillu_> dehleez; try this:  /join #dehleez
[11:09] <dsas> cwillu_: It relaunches automatically iirc
[11:09] <cwillu_> just want to get somewhere less noisy
[11:09] <cwillu_> dsas; thanks;  I'm just extrapolating from having run gnome-panel on a remote x session :p
[11:09] <kholerabbi> Hey so many people seem to be having problems with dapper - should I actually update from breezy?
[11:09] <Flannel> !tell sephran about ntfs
[11:09] <dehleez> cwillu_: ok but i should be OP there.. if my system crashes i'll kick u when my system goes down :P
[11:09] <cwillu_> lol
[11:10] <Marko> hello all
[11:10] <cwillu_> I just want to spam you some information, and get some yes or no ish answres :)
[11:10] <Marko> is there a help support channel for ubuntu n00bs?
[11:10] <tau> dsas: ok, I did a kill -HUP to gnome-panel's PID, and while I now have a new logout & shutdown menu entry, neither have an option to save settings :(
[11:10] <dsas> Marko: you're in it
[11:10] <Flannel> Marko: you're in it
[11:10] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: this is a support channel, so people with problems come here
[11:10] <Marko> ok tnx
[11:10] <jago25_98> What is /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/volatile ?
[11:10] <dsas> Flannel: snap
[11:10] <dehleez> cwillu_: okay... im there
[11:10] <Marko> I wanted to know uhm ...
[11:10] <Marko> I'm embaressed ... -_-
[11:10] <tau> maybe the gnome people will know more
[11:10] <troy_s> marko:  believe us, everyone else has already asked it
[11:11] <tau> or should I say gnomes? :p
[11:11] <Marko> well I was wondering how to start a internet connection (dsl) via ubuntu
[11:11] <troy_s> marko:  just ask.  ubuntu community members will only help.
[11:11] <Flannel> awww, I lose.
[11:11] <kholerabbi> Frogzoo: Very true. :) but it was a generally question: are poeple like dapper over breezy?
[11:11] <troy_s> marko:  have you installed ubuntu yet?
[11:11] <Marko> yeah
[11:11] <Marko> I've installed it
[11:11] <troy_s> marko:  and you did it when you weren't connected correct?
[11:11] <dsas> tau: Ahh. so the upstream dialogues don't contain them either? I switched on auto-save session because it was easier...
[11:11] <Marko> yes
[11:11] <Marko> correct
[11:11] <troy_s> marko:  it is as simple as clicking SYSTEM->
[11:11] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: I found the move to dapper very straightforward
[11:12] <troy_s> marko: ADMINISTRATION
[11:12] <troy_s> marko:  NETWORKING
[11:12] <kholerabbi> Frogzoo: ok :)
[11:12] <tau> dsas: yeah, but the thing about that is that if I screw up or radically change my desktop and then logout, it will get saved that way :(
[11:12] <troy_s> marko:  tell me when you are there.
[11:12] <Marko> uhm I'm on Xp atm :S
[11:12] <Geoffrey2> I've been reading the docs on wiki.ubuntu, and I guess I'd say they're semi-helpful
[11:13] <troy_s> marko: write it down then.  click SYSTEM-ADMINISTRATION-NETWORKING
[11:13] <Marko> but I'l write it down on a paper
[11:13] <b14ck> how how can i uninstall flash player?
[11:13] <troy_s> marko:  input your password.
[11:13] <troy_s> marko:  select ETHERNET CONNECTION and click PROPERTIES
[11:13] <troy_s> marko:  make sure it is ENABLED and select DHCP from the pulldown.  click OK and you should be online my friend.
[11:13] <troy_s> marko:  clear enough?
[11:13] <Marko> ok I've writen it don, and then search for device or?
[11:13] <tau> dsas: it seems the simplest option until I find out more is to try just manually saving the setup when I make a change I want to keep
[11:14] <Marko> hmm ok I'll try it
[11:14] <troy_s> marko:  no, it SHOULD be there already.  the problem is that when you installed without being connected, it didn't know how to configure it.
[11:14] <arthur_> High everybody, I just hosed my Ubuntu/Breezy install upgrading to Dapper. :( I used the update manager. It loads up but no Graphic interface. GDM wan't returns an error from the xserver. Also the kernel still 2.6.12 as it looks it did not update the GRUB loader
[11:14] <dsas> tau: You can always login with a failsafe session and fix it from there. If you find out more then please let me know :)
[11:14] <tau> dsas: ok
[11:14] <troy_s> marko:  so you just manually need to tell it to use dhcp basically.  after that, it all should work flawlessly.  come back here if not.
[11:14] <Marko> aha ok troy I'll keep that in mind
[11:14] <Marko> ok then
[11:14] <spanglesontoast> ah
[11:15] <troy_s> marko:  then you can use GAIM or xchat from there to get back here and tell us if you were successful.
[11:15] <Marko> I'll cya later then maybe cheers tnx for the help
[11:15] <Geoffrey2> biggest thing is it seems there are multiple docs that show how to do something on an earlier version of Ubuntu, and on Dapper it's changed somewhat...
[11:15] <spanglesontoast> gcj comes with gcc
[11:15] <arthur_> My real question is how to proceed to fix it back
[11:15] <Marko> a yeah ok
[11:15] <DustyDingo> hi
[11:15] <Flannel> arthur_: doubt you can downgrade.  Um, first thing I would try is to re-upgrade/try to finish the upgrade.
[11:15] <Flannel> !tell arthur_ about upgrade
[11:15] <DustyDingo> any idears, what a "gam_server" is?
[11:16] <Flannel> arthur_: do the manual ones (change sources.list then apt-get stuff, as per that page)
[11:16] <kadambi> Unable to install 6.06 from the iso donloaded from http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[11:16] <dsas> Geoffrey2: What are you trying to do?
[11:16] <TheSheep> kadambi: any more details?
[11:16] <sapperjanko> hey guys, im having some problems with ubuntu-desktop, it has now been installed but when booting up it says failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). HOW do i fix this???
[11:16] <Marko> heya again I almost forgot..
[11:16] <kadambi> TheSheep,  It says all debs are corrupted
[11:16] <arthur_> Flannel: I understand downgrading is not possible. System works but not the xserver
[11:16] <kadambi> TheSheep, but md5sum matches
[11:16] <Marko> what about a normal 56K modem connection?
[11:17] <Marko> also in there, but... ?
[11:17] <troy_s> marko:  it shoudl be there too.
[11:17] <Flannel> arthur_: right, try to 'finish' the upgrade.
[11:17] <arthur_> Flannel: I have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to no success
[11:17] <Marko> aha ok
[11:17] <troy_s> marko:  just try enabling it and setting up via the instructions.
[11:17] <Marko> k
[11:17] <Marko> cheers
[11:17] <Flannel> arthur_: well, if you're still on the old kernel, you've got more problems than just xserver not starting.
[11:17] <arthur_> Flannel: How do I do that?
[11:17] <kadambi> TheSheep, i used wget
[11:18] <Flannel> arthur_: read the link ubotu sent you, do the manual (command line) method.
[11:18] <arthur_> Flannel: Agree on that one :)
[11:18] <TheSheep> kadambi: it should work
[11:18] <sapperjanko> <<<[11:18] <arthur_> Okky dokky folks, see you later
[11:18] <kadambi> TheSheep, I did at two places, one at my office and the other at home,
[11:18] <kadambi> TheSheep, its not working in both.
[11:18] <Flannel> kadambi: try burning at a slower speed
[11:19] <kadambi> TheSheep, I burnt it at 4 X
[11:19] <Geoffrey2> oh, I installed the Sun Java distro...then tried to use update-alternatives like the docs say I should...it worked fine for java, on jar it didn't show the sun version as an alternative, and with javac, javadoc, etc it simply says there are no alternatives
[11:19] <arthur_> Flannel: sorry, which link?
[11:19] <Flannel> !tell arthur_ about upgrade
[11:19] <Flannel> ubotu sent you
[11:19] <ubotu> Flannel: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:19] <tau> dsas: zcat suggested running gnome-session-save when you want to save the current setup, so maybe I might stick a shortcut to it on the panel next the logout button and I can click on that whenever I want to..
[11:20] <kadambi> Flannel, Or is it a problem with Alternate cd ?
[11:20] <arthur_> ubotu: thanks mate.. :)
[11:20] <ubotu> arthur_: bitte
[11:20] <Flannel> kadambi: no, alternate CD is good... shouldn't have problems.
[11:20] <sapperjanko> Anyone able to help with my request
[11:21] <klos> command to show kernel version ?
[11:21] <kadambi> Flannel, Is there any work around ??
[11:21] <dsas> tau: Interesting, I wonder if there's a way of automatically running scripts on log out.
[11:21] <tau> hmm, maybe, I don't know..  I'm sure there would be, but I don't know how
[11:22] <kadambi> Flannel, Any pointers to docs, howto or wiki ?
[11:22] <Flannel> kadambi: um, try a different mirror?  try burning differently?  I dont know.  It sounds like hardware problems, whether its the burner, or the Cd, or whatever.
[11:22] <Geoffrey2> oh, every time I turn on the computer, I need to unlock the default keyring so the wlan can log onto the network...is there any way to automate that?
[11:22] <Flannel> kadambi: many other people have used it without problems ;)
[11:22] <gdb> dsas: .bash_logout
[11:22] <tau> dsas: apparently the problem *has* been registered as a bug - http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336627
[11:22] <kadambi> Flannel, But it is not the case with one machine
[11:22] <dsas> gdb: That runs after your gnome-session has ended though doesn't it?
[11:23] <kadambi> Flannel, Could you suugest a mirror ?
[11:23] <tiglionabbit> wtf happened to firefox zomg bbq
[11:23] <tiglionabbit> now when I download stuff it tries to load a helper application and fails, and I can't go to the preferences in it
[11:23] <justin__> has anyone successfully played Call of Duty 1 on dapper 6.06?
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> =[
[11:24] <gdb> dsas: Ah, sorry, if you're looking for a script that runs when you end your gnome session (for you personally) I don't know how that would be accomplished.  If you want one that runs for everyone, you can mess around with the startup scripts in /etc/X11 and modify them so they do not exec gnome-session and then you'd add your script right after it.  It would run after gnome-session terminated.
[11:24] <Flannel> kadambi: ubuntu.com/download has mirrors
[11:24] <DaveyJ> this is like the busiest chan ever
[11:24] <tau> gdb: yes but the point is to be able to run it *before* gnome-session terminates
[11:24] <kadambi> Flannel, Yes, but  the one you would suggest :)
[11:25] <Flannel> kadambi: they're all the exact same ISO, so doesn't matter.
[11:25] <gdb> Ah, can't help there, don't think there's a way to do it.  I'd seriously doubt there is any facility for that due to the design philosophy of GNOME (I doubt it's in KDE, either, for different reasons).
[11:25] <takedown> !easyubuntu
[11:25] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:25] <kholerabbi> Whats the easiest way to configure GRUB to boot windowsxp by default??
[11:25] <neg> hey
[11:25] <tau> maybe the only real solution is to do some source-hacking *eek*
[11:26] <kadambi> Flannel, Ok I will try , but why would installation fail when md5sum is matched ?
[11:26] <neg> how come cant i make network manager work?? it doesnt even appear on the internet section
[11:26] <Flannel> kadambi: hardware.  burning problems, CD problems.
[11:26] <triplep> i appear to be suck in some kind of dist-upgrade hell :(
[11:26] <dsas> gdb: No worries, it's hard to keep up in here.
[11:26] <neg> help pls
[11:26] <frfx> how do i switch between wireless networks?
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> have any of you guys upgraded firefox?
[11:27] <sapperjanko> hey guys, im having some problems with ubuntu-desktop, it has now been installed but when booting up it says failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). HOW do i fix this???
[11:27] <sapperjanko> <<<[11:27] <Fujitsu> frfx, try installing network-manager-gnome. It makes things easy.
[11:27] <kadambi> Flannel, Is it OK to use nautilus to burn?
[11:27] <Frogzoo> triplep: clean install is always an option - just be sure you have your data backed up first
[11:27] <Fujitsu> tiglionabbit, I just did then. I've seen the Bookmarks bug, and I'm about to test.
[11:27] <sapperjanko> i tried s3, s3virge, vesa. no good with all of them
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> bookmarks bug?  What's that?  I'm talking about when I try to download anything it tries to load a helper app and fails my download
[11:27] <sapperjanko> so can someone PLEASE help me out
[11:28] <tiglionabbit> it took away all of the download options, and I can't open preferences
[11:28] <tiglionabbit> it's majorly broken
[11:28] <Fujitsu> tiglionabbit, sounds like the same sort of issue... Can you please try to create a new profile?
[11:28] <tiglionabbit> like, when I right-click on something, most of the options are gone
[11:28] <tiglionabbit> okay
[11:28] <neg> how come cant i make network manager work?? it doesnt even appear on the internet section
[11:28] <tiglionabbit> how do I do that?
[11:28] <triplep> Frogzoo: it's all on a raid5 array, seperate form the OS, so i'm cool that way
[11:28] <dsas> neg: running nm-applet should make an applet appear in the desktop
[11:28] <dsas> s/desktop/notification area
[11:28] <neg> dsas, it doesnt
[11:28] <neg> :\
[11:29] <Fujitsu> It all seems to work for me...
[11:29] <Fujitsu> neg, please log out and in.
[11:29] <Fujitsu> tiglionabbit, run in a terminal:
[11:29] <neg> i did that
[11:29] <Fujitsu> firefox -p
[11:29] <kadambi> Flannel, TheSheep  Thanks :)
[11:29] <Fujitsu> neg, you should get an icon near the clock.
[11:29] <neg> it appeared me two wired connection things
[11:29] <neg> yes
[11:29] <neg> its there
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> firefox -ProfileManager
[11:29] <Fujitsu> neg, good. Is there are wireless option?
[11:30] <Fujitsu> tiglionabbit, probably.
[11:30] <neg> nope
[11:30] <frfx> Fujitsu: thanks.where do i start/configure network-manager-gnome?
[11:30] <Fujitsu> neg, you /do/ have two wired cards, don't you?
[11:30] <neg> nope
[11:30] <neg> one
[11:30] <Fujitsu> frfx, log out and in, and you'll get an icon next to the clock.
[11:30] <triplep> when you start using apt-get -f install, does it generally mena your life will complicated down the road?
[11:30] <Fujitsu> neg, that's strange.
[11:30] <neg> i need to make WPA work
[11:30] <Fujitsu> neg, what chipset is the wireless thing?
[11:30] <frfx> Fujitsu: thanks
[11:30] <neg> it works only non-password wireless networks
[11:31] <neg> Fujitsu, intel pro wireless 2200
[11:31] <Fujitsu> neg, NetworkManager works with WPA as well.
[11:31] <Frogzoo> !tell neg about enter
[11:31] <animato> hello, i have no audio in any flash videos in firefox and etc. it just started all of a sudden, what can i do?
[11:31] <Fujitsu> OK, neg... Do you have manual configuration for the wireless thing?
[11:31] <Fujitsu> neg, can you please run:
[11:31] <tau> dsas: well, thanks for your help anyway
[11:31] <Fujitsu> sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:31] <tau> cwillu: thanks for your help
[11:31] <Flannel> Fujitsu: gksudo
[11:31] <dsas> tau: no problemo
[11:32] <Fujitsu> Flannel, it's not really necessary, but I guess it looks nice...
[11:32] <Flannel> Fujitsu: it's better to be safe, all graphical programs gksudo, so you don't FUBAR your system
[11:32] <dsas> gksude is necessary sometimes, it can break stuff
[11:32] <neg> Fujitsu, nope
[11:32] <Fujitsu> Flannel, the only things that break things are Qt apps.
[11:32] <neg> i dont have a manual
[11:32] <Fujitsu> GTK+ is fine.
[11:33] <Fujitsu> neg, follow the command I gave up a few lines.
[11:33] <richard> help!
[11:33] <Fujitsu> !helpme
[11:33] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[11:33] <Flannel> Fujitsu: like I said, it's better to run ALL graphical programs as gksudo.  Just like we don't tell them to run as root.
[11:33] <SurfnKid> Which Command can I check for the battery
[11:33] <richard> Ive just installed Azureus .... i cant get rid of the warning messages
[11:33] <Fujitsu> True, Flannel.
[11:33] <richard> Hide doesnt work
[11:33] <dsas> SurfnKid: you can use gnome-power-manager
[11:33] <cyne> which vnc technology would you reccomend for ubuntu?
[11:34] <SurfnKid> dsas,  yeah but there's a command also that can show complete mAh I just cant remember. it was on a VT
[11:34] <troy_s> cyne:  no vnc... ssh
[11:34] <bert_> Hi, anybody here have any experience with getting a Lexmark X125 working?
[11:34] <cyne> troy_s: very well, but how do i get files down with that?
[11:35] <troy_s> cyne:  many ways... scp is the command line way
[11:35] <troy_s> cyne:  if you use gnome, simply add a network place via places
[11:35] <dsas> SurfnKid: uhm cat /proc/acpi/battery/*/state
[11:35] <cyne> troy_s: hmm ok i'll try it.. it's more accessing my windows files while i'm on the road with my ubuntu laptop
[11:35] <dsas> SurfnKid: There's possibly a nicer way, but I do not know of it.
[11:36] <troy_s> cyne:  put the openssh server up on winblows
[11:36] <troy_s> cyne:  then away you go.
[11:36] <cyne> troy_s, ok :)
[11:36] <troy_s> cyne:  it is secure and quite robust.
[11:36] <SurfnKid> dsas, dudeee thats it
[11:36] <cyne> thanks! troy_s
[11:36] <SurfnKid> dsas, not exactl how i got it before, but it gave me the same71590mWh that i wanted
[11:37] <bert_> Nobody with Lexmark X125 knowledge?
[11:37] <triplep> you have to set up open ssh via cygwin though don't you?
[11:37] <troy_s> bert_:  lexmark and open source don't mix very well at all.
[11:37] <richard> what is the best bittorrent program for ubuntu?
[11:37] <troy_s> triplep:  there is a winblows port of ssh daemons out there.
[11:37] <Psih0MAN> hello! can someone help me? i have trouble with the ssh metapackage. i'm running ubuntu stable (breezy). i need to reinstall openssh (sever and client) and dpkg returnes error code 1 when i try to uninstall the server and the client and then the meta package
[11:37] <bert_> troy_s: I know, but there is a driver...but I can't get it to work
[11:38] <cyne> richard, Azureus
[11:38] <cyne> ?
[11:38] <richard> but it doesnt work properly on dapper
[11:38] <triplep> richard: torrentflux
[11:38] <richard> lol
[11:38] <neg> Fujitsu, ?
[11:38] <richard> i'll try torrentflux
[11:38] <richard> encrypted torrents?
[11:39] <triplep> richard have you setup LAMP apps before?
[11:40] <richard> no triplep
[11:40] <triplep> one sec, I have a link to a quick instal for it....
[11:40] <richard> what is LAMP
[11:40] <neg> help pls
[11:40] <the_beginner_> hi guys, new here...6.06...compiling hello world with gcc for the first time: "gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory
[11:40] <neg> i got nm-applet working
[11:40] <DaveyJ> is it at all possible to use dual screens (on the same card) with xgl?
[11:40] <DBO> Linux Apache MySQL and PHP (Perl Python)
[11:40] <neg> but it says its lo andg not my wireless card workin
[11:40] <DBO> LAMP richard ^^
[11:40] <Flannel> the_beginner_: do you have build-essential?
[11:41] <the_beginner_> don't think so ..
[11:41] <Flannel> !tell the_beginner_ about build-essential
[11:41] <compubomb> i have a question, what do you have to install in order to view xvid files on ubuntu ?
[11:41] <Flannel> !tell compubomb about xvid
[11:41] <Flannel> baah
[11:41] <triplep> richard: http://www.techsential.com/linux/the-ultimate-torrentfluxubuntu-box
[11:41] <richard> google easyubuntu compubomb
[11:41] <DaveyJ> lol
[11:42] <DaveyJ> i think AutomatiX has it too
[11:42] <DBO> !automatix
[11:42] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:42] <DBO> automatix is dangerous
[11:42] <Psih0MAN>  can someone help me, please? i have trouble with the ssh metapackage. i'm running ubuntu stable (breezy). i need to reinstall openssh (sever and client) and dpkg returnes error code 1 when i try to uninstall the server and the client and then the meta package
[11:42] <Flannel> triplep: he just wants a torrent program, he doesn't need remote administration ;)
[11:42] <Locke> ok
[11:42] <DaveyJ> i used automatix
[11:42] <DaveyJ> with no problems
[11:42] <Locke> how do i get DRI support for my voodoo3
[11:43] <Flannel> Psih0MAN: try uninstalling the meta package first.
[11:43] <timmower> Psih0MAN: uninstall the metapackage first
[11:43] <DaveyJ> but.. if you run it more than once you're more than likely to screw something up
[11:43] <Psih0MAN> Flannel: and timmower ok
[11:43] <triplep> Flannel: after ktorrent and azerus, i wanted to beat my head against the wall
[11:43] <timmower> what torrent programs have remote administration???
[11:43] <timmower> that would be very nice
[11:43] <DBO> Davey, it does lots of dangerous things, not the least of which is overwriting config files without making backups
[11:43] <Flannel> triplep: eh, btdownload has never bothered me.
[11:43] <_nano_> hi I need help with apache, I have enabled user directories using "a2enmode userdir", but rewrite engine is not working :(
[11:43] <DBO> DaveyJ, ^^^
[11:44] <Flannel> _nano_: you need to enable mod_rewrie
[11:44] <_nano_> *a2enmod
[11:44] <DBO> DaveyJ, you got off easy, you may not be so lucky next time ;-)
[11:44] <DaveyJ> well, thanks to that info.. there wont be a next time =D
[11:44] <DaveyJ> i'm too noobish to risk that
[11:44] <_nano_> Flannel: I have also done "a2enmod rewrite"
[11:44] <DaveyJ> i screwed up my conf once, couldnt boot into gnome and i got lost
[11:44] <Frogzoo> what's a good size for a /tmp file system?
[11:44] <DaveyJ> so i just reinstalled
[11:45] <Flannel> _nano_: did you enable rewriting in your configuration files?
[11:45] <DaveyJ> ...since it was a new install anyway
[11:45] <DBO> DaveyJ, ok, well, for our sake, can you try to keep automatix pimping to a none =)
[11:45] <DaveyJ> :-X lips are sealed ;)
[11:45] <_nano_> Flannel: in my .htaccess files i did
[11:45] <_nano_> Flannel: i have also done allowoveride all
[11:45] <_nano_> Flannel: in the userdir.conf
[11:46] <Cristos_> hi
[11:46] <Flannel> _nano_: try asking in #apache, they'd be more suited
[11:46] <triplep> do you have .htaccess turned on in apache.conf though?
[11:46] <SurfnKid> guys how come i cant see lsb_release
[11:46] <SurfnKid> says n/a
[11:46] <neg> help pls
[11:46] <_nano_> Flannel: k, i just posted here coz i didn't have this problem in my previous distro..so i though this would be ubuntu specific
[11:46] <Cristos_> need help with parallel port programming
[11:46] <Cristos_> please help
[11:46] <richard> AZUREUS doent work on dapper!!!!
[11:46] <Locke> k i found some nice packages
[11:47] <richard> :(
[11:47] <Frogzoo> richard: nonsense
[11:47] <Psih0MAN> Flannel: what pastebin service can i use besides pastebin.com (it returnes an php error to my paste)
[11:47] <richard> well i cant get rid of warning messages
[11:47] <richard> hide doesnt work
[11:48] <Frogzoo> richard: stop all your torrents, exit & restart
[11:49] <Cristos_> when you write to parport0, that value you've written should be latched (so that when you immediately read after writing, the value should be the same? ) ?
[11:49] <neg> hello help pls??
[11:49] <cwillu_> !help
[11:49] <cwillu_> well, that didn't work :p
[11:50] <cwillu_> neg, just ask, don't ask to ask
[11:50] <richard> it wont restart
[11:50] <neg> i got nm-applet working
[11:50] <neg> but it says its lo andg not my wireless card workin
[11:50] <neg> !!
[11:50] <richard> and i had no torrents running
[11:50] <ubotu> neg: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:50] <neg> pleas
[11:51] <Frogzoo> richard: did you install sun's jre?
[11:51] <cwillu_> sorry neg, '!!' was a bad choice of message :p
[11:51] <cwillu_> neg, open a terminal, type 'ifconfig', and pastebin the output
[11:51] <cwillu_> !pastebin
[11:51] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:51] <neg> yup
[11:51] <Psih0MAN> Flannel and timmower: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15446
[11:51] <Frogzoo> !tell richard about java
[11:51] <richard> i cant install cos it wont let me
[11:52] <J0s3ph> Hello. Does anyone know of a program that would let me resize windows to predefined sizes?
[11:52] <timmower> did you try apt-get -f install?
[11:52] <Psih0MAN> timmower: yes
[11:53] <timmower> how about apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:53] <neg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15447 cwillu_
[11:53] <kholerabbi> Anybody know a flash development environment - flash or shcokwave?
[11:53] <neg> i cant even install flash for firefox
[11:53] <neg> :\
[11:53] <Psih0MAN> timmower: no. i've tried apt-get upgrade
[11:53] <J0s3ph> neg: I did that yesterday.
[11:54] <timmower> Psih0MAN: dist-upgrade can sometimes solve this type of problem - it is a bit more intelligent!
[11:54] <neg> J0s3ph, i do flashplugin tab and it doesnt show me a correct package
[11:54] <timmower> Psih0MAN: and don't be scared it won' t upgrade the distro!
[11:54] <cwillu_> this is the point at which I wish I had more than 256 megs of ram on this machien :/
[11:54] <Psih0MAN> timmower: openssh-server: Depends: openssh-client (= 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1) but it is not installed
[11:54] <Fujitsu> kholerabbi, threre are no native ones for Linux.
[11:54] <Psih0MAN> timmi tried now
[11:55] <neg> cwillu_,  can you help?
[11:55] <Psih0MAN> timmower: i tried now
[11:55] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, what command was that?
[11:55] <cwillu_> neg, give me a sec;  convincing seamonkey that text/plain can be displayed internally :/
[11:55] <neg> Fujitsu, finally
[11:55] <kholerabbi> Fujitsu: nothing? damn
[11:55] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:55] <zim> hi all am trying to get F12 to work in gnome anyone know why it wont
[11:55] <Fujitsu> Oh, hi, neg.
[11:55] <scrbl> Hello everyone! I have the following question. Let's say I want to compile program X, which requires, say, the dev package of GTK. After compiling, is it safe to remove the devel package (I don't need it anyway) or are these wrong thoughts?
[11:55] <zim> the F12 should show all open appes
[11:56] <Hobbsee> scrbl: yes, you can if you wish.  not sure why you'd wnat to though
[11:56] <zim> apps
[11:56] <timmower> Psih0MAN: have you tried apt-get remove ssh openssh-client openssh-server
[11:56] <the_beginner_> undefined reference to `std::basic_ostream
[11:56] <cwillu_> neg, how many network ish devices do you have in your computer?  (wireless, wired, etc)
[11:56] <Psih0MAN> timmower: i even tried dpkg -P openssh-server ssh
[11:56] <kevor> Hey, is there finally a Summertime/Wintertime notification in Dapper?
[11:57] <Fujitsu> zim, this isn't Mac OSX.
[11:57] <neg> modem wired and wireless
[11:57] <Psih0MAN> timmower: now i try to remove all 3 programs at once
[11:57] <cwillu_> and presumably the modem isn't in use
[11:57] <timmower> Psih0MAN: dpkg does not interact with the apt database, so I think apt still thinks they are installed... not too hot the mechanics of it all though
[11:58] <Psih0MAN> timmower: your last command worked without errors
[11:58] <kholerabbi> Would it be possible to get my wallpaper to change automatically to Wikimedia Commons: image of the day (picture)?? And the next day change to the new picture??
[11:58] <timmower> Psih0MAN: awesome! now you can install the ssh packages you wanted in the first place...
[11:58] <Psih0MAN> timmower: now i'll try to reinstall them
[11:58] <eth0-noob> does anyone know hwo to mount an audio cd and copy the tracks from it using cp?
[11:59] <Fujitsu> eth0-noob, you can't. They're not files, per se.
[11:59] <Fujitsu> eth0-noob, you'll need to use specialised CD ripping software.
[11:59] <Psih0MAN> timmower: is it enough to install the ssh metapackage?
[11:59] <cwillu_> neg; in other news, you can install flash in the browser manually, if all else fails;
[11:59] <SurfnKid> guys i just insttalled Dapper but I only got the prompt, did i not install this right
[12:00] <SurfnKid> how can i start the xserver to get it up to a GUI
[12:00] <eth0-noob> oh...
[12:00] <eth0-noob> damn ok
[12:00] <cwillu_> neg; flashplugin.so or some file like that (packaged in the deb, or whichever linux-mozilla build of flash you can get hold of)
[12:00] <Psih0MAN> timmower: how can i update the database after a dpkg operation?
[12:00] <cwillu_> put it in the plugins folder for the browser
[12:00] <ic56> SurfnKid: first ensure X really isn't running.  Hit alt-F7.  Do you get X?
[12:00] <cwillu_> (locate firefox or locate mozilla should do it for you)
[12:00] <thelostbyte> !repos
[12:00] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:01] <SurfnKid> ah.. no i didnt
[12:01] <timmower> Psih0MAN: not sure - try to use apt for everything in the repos, and dpkg for others
[12:01] <ic56> SurfnKid: gotta be the left alt key.  Try also ctl-alt-F7 (again, left alt)
[12:01] <SurfnKid> ic56, look i had a lot of trouble getting 6.06 up. so now that ive got it, ive got a login screen, but what can i do to get to a GUI
[12:02] <ic56> SurfnKid: if X really isn't running, you can start it from any console with: startx
[12:02] <SurfnKid> ic56, nothing its now up
[12:02] <timmower> Psih0MAN: but someone that knows apt / dpkg better might have a better answer!
[12:02] <Psih0MAN> timmower: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15448
[12:02] <SurfnKid> ic56, xauth reating new authority file, X: cannot start /etc/X11/X no such file or directory. unable to connect to X server no such process
[12:03] <Marko> heya again :D
[12:03] <ic56> SurfnKid: /etc/X11/X is the X server executable.  If it's not found, then X hasn't been installed.
[12:04] <Marko> I have the dummest problem ! :(
[12:04] <ic56> !justask
[12:04] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[12:04] <cwillu_> neg, you just installed the network applet thingy?
[12:04] <Marko> I just contunued to install ubuntu and I forgot my username and pass, so I couldn't go in , is there anyway pass that?
[12:04] <graveson> i have installed dapper ,but my keybindings ie ctrl-alt-f1 are not working ,how do i fix this
[12:05] <SurfnKid> ic56, there's files in that X11 folder
[12:05] <cwillu_> Marko, you can boot into single user mode (just command prompt), and from there you can reset accounts, passwords, etc
[12:05] <igge> !xgl
[12:05] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:05] <timmower> Psih0MAN: hmmm try removing all 3 again, then installing openssh-client and openssh-server and forgetting about the meta package
[12:05] <SurfnKid> ic56, can i install X with aptitude?
[12:05] <timmower> Psih0MAN: all the ssh package does is install the other two anyhow
[12:05] <cwillu_> Marko; should be able to find what you need if you google, or keeping poking around here and somebody who isn't half drunk may be able to walk you through it (or a better solution)
[12:05] <Marko> cwillu could you explane more?
[12:05] <cwillu_> neg, still therE?
[12:05] <Psih0MAN> timmower: ok.
[12:06] <Marko> hehe ok then
[12:06] <cwillu_> :p
[12:06] <Marko> :D
[12:06] <timmower> Psih0MAN: actually try sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-client_1%3a4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1_i386.deb
[12:06] <cwillu_> but check the ubuntu wiki, and poke around, fun way to become confident in working with the system anyway
[12:06] <timmower> Psih0MAN: I think somehow the dpkg is corrupted
[12:07] <ic56> SurfnKid: maybe the X infrastructure was installed but not the X server itself.  The latter has many alternatives, depending on your graphics card.  If the install got confused when trying to detect your card, it may have failed to pick a server and install one.
[12:07] <Psih0MAN> timmower:  unable to make backup link of `./usr/bin/ssh' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[12:07] <Marko> ok cwillu_
[12:07] <alth> Hey everyone, I have a bit of a problem. I have onboard 5.1, and 5.1 speakers plugged in, but Ubuntu will only utilise the front ones, not the sub or the rear speakers. What can I do?
[12:07] <Psih0MAN> timmower: why is the operation not permited?
[12:07] <SurfnKid> ic56, in aptitude the x-window-system-core is installed
[12:08] <timmower> Psih0MAN: umm something in the internals of apt - its not permission denied so its not to do with permissions
[12:08] <Psih0MAN> timmower: is it because it searches the ./usr/bin/ssh directory and i'm in ~ ?
[12:08] <SurfnKid> xserver-xorg is installed too n
[12:08] <alex_joni> g'morning.. anyone knows if it's possible to dist-upgrade from sarge to dapper?
[12:08] <timmower> Psih0MAN: shouldn't be, unless its a bug.  might be worth a try.  did you remove that package from earlier
[12:08] <Psih0MAN> timmower: ./ that should be /root/usr/bin/ssh
[12:08] <a1337> what's the difference between "su" and "sudo"?
[12:09] <ic56> SurfnKid: right. the core wouldn't include the server, I don't think -- that should be a package on its own.  Sorry, I dunno the right package but that's clearly your problem.
[12:09] <Psih0MAN> timmower: now the ssh, openssh-client and openssh-server packages are rremoved
[12:09] <Marko> hm I must use a YAST <-? for to reebot my usernam and pass?
[12:09] <Marko> found it here http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/16502-newbie-requires-login-help.html
[12:09] <timmower> Psih0MAN: try removing the /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-client_1%3a4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1_i386.deb
[12:10] <SurfnKid> ic56, yeah, its ok, im just happy the system installed, so i might have to play with it
[12:10] <Locke> k that didnt work
[12:10] <jrsims> I've installed VLC, how come I can't view WMVs?
[12:10] <timmower> Psih0MAN: if you missed that, I wasn't sure
[12:10] <Locke> direct rendering is still off
[12:10] <Psih0MAN> timmower: ok
[12:10] <Marko> is it the same thing on ubuntu (like on suse distribution)
[12:11] <Psih0MAN> timmower: how would i install the deb file again?
[12:11] <timmower> Psih0MAN: it will download it for you.  if you are worried just move the deb file from there
[12:11] <neg_> hi
[12:11] <jrsims> I've installed VLC, how come I still can't view WMVs?
[12:11] <Psih0MAN> timmower: i removed it.
[12:12] <Psih0MAN> timmower: should i install the ssh meta or the others?
[12:12] <timmower> ok now try apt-get install ssh
[12:12] <Psih0MAN> timmower: ok
[12:12] <daqing> hello,it seems that my ubuntu 6.06 system runs a bit lowly ,how should i do ?
[12:12] <Starseed> jrsims: you need the w32codecs package installed
[12:12] <jrsims> Starseed: ok
[12:13] <alex_joni> anyone knows if it's possible to dist-upgrade from sarge to dapper?
[12:13] <alth> I'd really like to get my surround sound working, can anyone help me?
[12:13] <neg_> i wished my wireless was working
[12:13] <jrsims> Starseed: it'
[12:14] <jrsims> Starseed: it's not showing up in synaptic
[12:14] <Psih0MAN> timmower: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15449
[12:14] <Psih0MAN> timmower: now i move to /
[12:14] <INternat> ok this might be a stupid quesiton, but how do u download the kernel source in ubuntu? i cant seem to find the package
[12:14] <Psih0MAN> i am now in ~
[12:14] <daqing> may anyone tell me how to configure it so the system can run more fast?
[12:15] <alex_joni> INternat: apt-get install linux-source-...
[12:15] <timmower> Psih0MAN:  try from /
[12:15] <timmower> Psih0MAN: if not try an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade if you have not tried that before - seems like there is some sort of problem with that dev
[12:16] <timmower> deb sorry
[12:16] <Psih0MAN> i'll try it now... i just moved to / and tried apt-get install ssh with the same error
[12:16] <INternat> ok and the last stupid question of the nite, is there a copy of the default kernel config somewhere, cause /proc/config.gz doesnt havei t
[12:17] <cwillu_> INternat; make old-config or something along those lines should get you close
[12:17] <alex_joni> INternat: /boot/config...
[12:17] <cwillu_> /proc/config.gz is a kernel option :p
[12:17] <Starseed> yah, what he said
[12:18] <Psih0MAN> timmower: same error :'(
[12:18] <[0x90] > hello all
[12:18] <SurfnKid> ic56, would you know the command to check CPU speed
[12:18] <Psih0MAN> timmower: i did this: 1. remove the packages; update db, upgrade, install ssh
[12:19] <daqing> does anyone have good ideas on  how to make the ubuntu 6 run faster?
[12:19] <cwillu_> daqing; I like the ck kernel patches myself, but that's a world of trouble you probably don't want to get involved with :)
[12:20] <daqing> but my system runs so slowly .........
[12:20] <kbrooks> hey all
[12:20] <kbrooks> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto is out of date
[12:20] <daqing> is there any safe settings?
[12:21] <dsas> daqing: you might be interested in using xubuntu
[12:21] <cwillu_> daqing; how's your memory situation?
[12:21] <Hobbsee> kbrooks: update it?
[12:21] <Fujitsu> Shall I fix it, kbrooks?
[12:21] <MrRio> That update thingy should get me to close firefox before it updates it, because it just lost all it's menus so I couldn't bookmark
[12:21] <Psih0MAN> timmower: rm: remove write-protected regular file `/usr/bin/ssh'?
[12:21] <daqing> it is 768M
[12:21] <kbrooks> Fujitsu: go on
[12:22] <Psih0MAN> timmower: why is it write protected?
[12:22] <daqing> and the swap space is 1G
[12:22] <timmower> Psih0MAN: first apt-get remove openssh-server openssh-client ssh
[12:22] <kbrooks> Fujitsu: this is out of date too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:22] <znero> Can somebody tell me how to activate NUM automatically when Ubuntu starts? Automatix doesnt work.
[12:22] <timmower> Psih0MAN: then yeah try removing it - if it still exists
[12:22] <Fujitsu> kbrooks, they appear to be the same.
[12:22] <Psih0MAN> timmower: i did this everytime, and i'll do it every time
[12:22] <cwillu_> daqing; sysctl vm.swappiness = 0 is popular and safe (nothing a reboot won't fix)
[12:22] <Psih0MAN> i reffer to  apt-get remove openssh-server openssh-client ssh
[12:23] <kbrooks> Fujitsu: yes, but the kubuntu one is based on the ubuntu one
[12:23] <timmower> Psih0MAN: write protected means the write permission is not set
[12:23] <cwillu_> if you like the effect (basically reduces paging), set it in /etc/sysctl.conf
[12:23] <Psih0MAN> timmower: but i am root
[12:23] <kung> hi there
[12:23] <Psih0MAN> timmower: rm: cannot remove `/usr/bin/ssh': Operation not permitted
[12:23] <timmower> Psih0MAN: I want to see if that is removing the /usr/bin/ssh file - if it is not that is your problem
[12:23] <kung> where do I put firmware in dapper?
[12:23] <kung> !hotplug
[12:23] <ubotu> kung: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:23] <daqing> cwillu_:thanks for your info
[12:23] <timmower> Psih0MAN: chmod u+w /usr/bin/ssh
[12:23] <kung> !firmware
[12:23] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kung
[12:23] <cwillu_> daqing; only problem I've had is oom problems on my machine, which seem pretty rare;  what will happen is apps will die randomly :p
[12:24] <kung> thx, I'll try..the thing is I found something for breezy, but it somehow changed in dapper
[12:24] <timmower> Psih0MAN: if you remove a file without removing the package you could be in trouble you see... which is why i advise removing the package again
[12:24] <timmower> Psih0MAN: sorry!
[12:24] <SurfnKid> good night guys
[12:24] <Psih0MAN> timmchmod: changing permissions of `/usr/bin/ssh': Operation not permitted
[12:24] <SurfnKid> ic56, thanks for the info, the system works fine, just dont have X so I'll use it as a test console
[12:24] <alex_joni> Psih0MAN: sudo
[12:24] <hoodlum_> hi
[12:24] <timmower> Psih0MAN: ls -lh /usr/bin/ssh
[12:24] <Psih0MAN> timmower: the file /usr/bin/ssh exista
[12:24] <daqing> cwillu_: haha ,that would be really upseting
[12:24] <cwillu_> daqing; but basically, normal people find that the kernel pages stuff out too quick, in preference to bigger cache;  usually a good idea, but not great for desktop usage (where you want a program to stay in memory even though you haven't used in forever, so it's immediately responsive when you finally click on it)
[12:24] <Psih0MAN> timmower: the file /usr/bin/ssh exists
[12:25] <ic56> SurfnKid: yw
[12:25] <timmower> Psih0MAN: after apt-get removing?
[12:25] <Psih0MAN> timmower: i do apt-get remove ssh openssh-client openssh-server
[12:25] <Psih0MAN> timmower: yes
[12:25] <cwillu_> daqing; pretty rare, and there's some other settings that improve it
[12:25] <SurfnKid> ic56, at least its runningg 6.06 :)
[12:25] <Psih0MAN> timmower: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 1.2M Feb 20 16:45 /usr/bin/ssh
[12:25] <SurfnKid> guys one question
[12:25] <cwillu_> daqing; but with that much memory, you're not likely to notice it unless you've got about 50 mozilla tabs open, in which case it'll be mozilla itself being killed
[12:26] <SurfnKid> anything that compares to XGL I could use?
[12:26] <Psih0MAN> timmower: shoud i check the disk?
[12:26] <kbrooks> i want ubuntu here now
[12:26] <daqing> cwillu_: 'cause i am new to linux ,i will find more infos myself,thanks anyway
[12:26] <dsas> SurfnKid: aiglx
[12:26] <graveson> i have installed dapper ,but my keybindings ie ctrl-alt-f1 are not working ,how do i fix this
[12:26] <SurfnKid> dsas, on 5.10?
[12:26] <dsas> SurfnKid: probably not.
[12:26] <Psih0MAN> timmower: maybe it's a disk error
[12:26] <timmower> Psih0MAN: what happens if you run ssh --version?
[12:26] <SurfnKid> dsas, thought so, :(
[12:27] <timmower> Psih0MAN: it could be a disk error i guess
[12:27] <daqing>  kbrooks:where are u now?
[12:27] <kholerabbi> When I put me mouse over a sound file a little sound/speech bubble emblem comes over it - is this something to do with sound previewing and hwo do i use it???
[12:27] <kbrooks> daqing: ?
[12:27] <Pupeno> Hello.
[12:27] <kbrooks> daqing: i'm getting CDs sent to me
[12:27] <Pupeno> Anybody using gpg with Evolution ?
[12:27] <graveson> what do i need to install to have config editor in my app list
[12:27] <Psih0MAN> timmower: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15450
[12:27] <Fujitsu> Pupeno, hyep.
[12:27] <Fujitsu> *yep
[12:28] <kbrooks> daqing: kubuntu and ubuntu
[12:28] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[12:28] <kadambi> Is it OK to burn the iso using nautilus ?
[12:28] <kbrooks> daqing: they are being shipped
[12:28] <Fujitsu> kadambi, yes.
[12:28] <Psih0MAN> timmower: SSH Version OpenSSH_3.5p1 [i686-unknown-linux] , protocol version 1.5.
[12:28] <ic56> timmover, PsihOMAN: to remove a file you need write permission on its parent directory.  The permissions on the file itself are irrelevant, except that rm will issue a warning if you try to remove read-only file.  You can override that warning with rm -f.
[12:28] <Psih0MAN> timmower: Standard version.  Does not use RSAREF.
[12:29] <timmower> ok i think i have found something : try lsattr /usr/bin/ssh as root
[12:29] <kadambi> Fujitsu, I'm burning the 6.06 iso and I'm not able to install as it says .debs are corrupt, but the md5sum of iso matches
[12:29] <Fujitsu> kadambi, try burning at a slower speed.
[12:29] <Pupeno> Fujitsu: may I know how you made it work ? I keep getting an error.
[12:29] <Psih0MAN> timmower: why is it protocol version 1.5? i think this was the problem that made me reinstall them
[12:29] <Fujitsu> Pupeno, what error?
[12:30] <kadambi> Fujitsu, I'm using 4 X, should I use less than that ?
[12:30] <Pupeno> Fujitsu: a minute please.
[12:30] <Fujitsu> kadambi, hmm. That should be fine. How many times have you tried to burn so far?
[12:30] <timmower> Psih0MAN: try the lsattr
[12:31] <kadambi> Fujitsu, twice
[12:31] <Pupeno> Fujitsu: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-June/081615.html
[12:31] <Fujitsu> kadambi, I wonder if your CD drive is a bit dodgy.
[12:31] <Psih0MAN> timmower: s---ia----------- /usr/bin/ssh
[12:31] <Fujitsu> Pupeno, what is the subject line of the message? I'll look it up in my local copy of -users...
[12:31] <Pupeno> Fujitsu: Signing mail with evolution
[12:31] <kadambi> Fujitsu, Its new one and i have hardly used it.
[12:31] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[12:31] <Fujitsu> There.
[12:32] <Pupeno> Fujitsu: by Pupeno (I don't send many emails).
[12:32] <Fujitsu> kadambi, strange.
[12:32] <Fujitsu> Pupeno, I noticed.
[12:32] <cwillu_> \
[12:32] <kholerabbi> Apperantly there is no flash studio / development environment for linux.. but dose anyone know what Windows flash DE would be most compatible with wine?
[12:32] <Psih0MAN> timmower:
[12:32] <Pupeno> Fujitsu: maybe I have a screwed up configuration of gpg and should get rid of it... saving my keys.
[12:32] <Fujitsu> Pupeno, please install seahorse.
[12:32] <kadambi> Fujitsu, Anyways I 'll try to do it again lemme see :)
[12:32] <timmower> ok that i means immutable, which is why root cannot delete it.  I am worried you have been hacked.... but I am WILDLY speculating
[12:32] <kadambi> Fujitsu, Thaks :)
[12:32] <Pupeno> Fujitsu: I have it.
[12:32] <Fujitsu> Pupeno, then System->Preferences->Sessions...
[12:32] <Fujitsu> Add seahorse-agent to the startup programs.
[12:32] <timmower> anyone here know about the immutable attribute?
[12:33] <Fujitsu> timmower, yeah.
[12:33] <Fujitsu> timmower, you want to unset it?
[12:33] <Pupeno> Fujitsu: that's it ?
[12:33] <timmower> fujitsu: Psih0MAN has ssh set to immutable bit, and apt won't delete it
[12:33] <ic56> timmover: I agree with your assessment of PsihOMAN's ssh
[12:33] <Fujitsu> Pupeno, then launch seahorse-agent, and all should be good.] 
[12:33] <Fujitsu> timmower, it does look like it's immutable. Wait a sec.
[12:33] <Pupeno> thank yfou.
[12:34] <Pupeno> you.
[12:34] <timmower> fujitsu: I can't see on my system because i have reiserfs
[12:34] <Fujitsu> timmower, the command that's necessary is `sudo chattr -i /path/to/whatever'...
[12:35] <ic56> timmower: on my breezy, ssh has no immutable.  no attributes at all, in fact.
[12:35] <Psih0MAN> timmower: i've tried if i have write permissions and if i have enough space on that partition - i can write and i have 94 MB available
[12:35] <Fujitsu> ic56, by default it doesn't.
[12:35] <timmower> Psih0MAN: try fujitsus command on ssh
[12:35] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, run `sudo chattr -i /usr/bin/sshd'
[12:35] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[12:35] <Fujitsu> Is it ssh or sshd?
[12:35] <timmower> ssh
[12:35] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, run `sudo chattr -i /usr/bin/ssh'
[12:36] <Master_Shake> I'm using Ubuntu Dapper would someone mind helping me with the ati drivers?
[12:36] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Master_Shake about ati
[12:36] <Fujitsu> Master_Shake, please see the message from ubotu.
[12:36] <yacek> hello
[12:36] <Psih0MAN> timmower and Fujitsu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15453
[12:36] <Fujitsu> Hi, yacek.
[12:36] <[0x90] > hi, i have an Ati radeon 9200se... i'm trying to install the graphics card in ubuntu, but i never do it correctly.... i have been reading tutorials, searching in google, asking in forums, irc channels, etc... and can never make it work... when i type 'fglrxinfo' on the console, or i get that i have mesa3d drivers, or i get lots of API ENTRY ERRORS... can someone help me? it's urgent
[12:37] <Fujitsu> Wow.
[12:37] <Fujitsu> Interesting, Psih0MAN.
[12:37] <ic56> Fujitsu: is making the ssh executable immutable a new policy?  Because if not, PsihOMAN's system has been changed by someone...
[12:37] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: maybe was the chattr hacked too?
[12:37] <Psih0MAN> i'm in a natted dorm
[12:37] <Fujitsu> ic56, it's not a new policy. Such a policy never existed.
[12:37] <timmower> ic56: thats what i was worried about
[12:37] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, can you run `lsattr /usr/bin/ssh'?
[12:38] <chavo> His ssh executable is the wrong sizze also
[12:38] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: i don't think someone had the interest to hack me
[12:38] <Fujitsu> chavo, is it?
[12:38] <chavo> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 237932 2006-05-17 20:43 /usr/bin/ssh
[12:38] <timmower> Psih0MAN: try chattr -i /usr/bin/ssh
[12:38] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, you never know.
[12:38] <timmower> note the -
[12:38] <dean> hi all, just having some troubles with the dns i think, when i go to a webpage (www.google.com.au) it sits for about 5 to 10 seconds, then the page shows. when i use the ip address it is instant. during the pause there is no activity on my network card. we have a adsl modem connecting to the internet, a wireless router conected to that and the other computer connected to the router by cable, my computer uses the wireless. the other comp
[12:38] <dean> uter experiences no problems with going to webpages. my dns servers are listed are the ip addresses of my router and my router. any ideas??
[12:38] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: s----a----------- /usr/bin/ssh
[12:38] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: it is a workstation
[12:38] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: a student`s workstation
[12:39] <timmower> chattr -a /usr/bin/ssh that only allows you to append
[12:39] <Fujitsu> AHA.
[12:39] <dean> not my router and my router, by my router and my modem
[12:39] <Fujitsu> Yes, remove the a attribute.
[12:39] <Psih0MAN> timmower: what about remove?
[12:39] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[12:39] <Fujitsu> Interesting.
[12:39] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, the `a' attribute only allows the file to be opened in append mode.
[12:39] <Fujitsu> BUT DO NOT DELETE THE FILE.
[12:39] <richard> how do i install a downloaded file
[12:39] <richard> from hd
[12:39] <Fujitsu> !install
[12:39] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[12:39] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: ups
[12:39] <richard> !install
[12:40] <timmower> fujitsu: does selinux do something like this?
[12:40] <Frogzoo> dean: obviously either the router or the modem isn't answering dns queries, & the other is
[12:40] <tubbie> the chattr +i is a good trick to protect you from scriptkiddies )
[12:40] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: i removed it :`(
[12:40] <Fujitsu> timmower, I don't think so.
[12:40] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, meh.
[12:40] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, it would have been better to keep it, but no harm done.
[12:40] <Fujitsu> That other attribute is incredibly suspicious.
[12:40] <Fujitsu> I believe that your system has been compromised.
[12:41] <JediMaster> hey all, I'm having major problems with raid on ubuntu, I got it working fine, but now after a crash I can't boot as it gets past starting raid devices, setting up LVM then gets to starting enterprise volume management and says: "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0806bb60 ***
[12:41] <timmower> fujitsu, Psih0MAN I have learnt something today!
[12:41] <Fujitsu> The `s' attribute means that any areas on the hard disk that were used by the file are immediately replaced with zero.
[12:41] <ic56> dean: try: host google.com <your modem's IP> . Try for each of the dns servers listed in your /etc/resolv.conf .  Any that fail to produce an answer should be removed from your /etc/resolv.conf -- they're slowing you down.
[12:41] <Fujitsu> Which means that the attacker wanted it to be clean.
[12:41] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: even it had been compromised, it is not a problem, because i don't have important stuff on it
[12:41] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, OK.
[12:42] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, what alerted you to this fact, anyway?
[12:42] <richard> sudo ******** /opt/azureus/azplugins/azplugins_2.0.jar
[12:42] <richard> ????
[12:42] <Fujitsu> Hi redrum_! Another australian.
[12:42] <Fujitsu> *Australian.
[12:42] <Scorpmoon> anyone running Sun's looking-glass for Ubuntu?
[12:42] <richard> sudo install
[12:42] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: i had some errors when i tried to ssh to other hosts
[12:42] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, interesting...
[12:43] <Fujitsu> Is there anything important on those hosts?
[12:43] <incubii> aussie aussie aussie :))
[12:43] <Fujitsu> Any sensitive passwords?
[12:43] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: the error was in ssh_config line 24
[12:43] <graveson> is there a bug in dapper - i installed it twice now ,but i do not have my getty's   (ctrl-alt-f1) ,this is probably the 10th time i am asking this question ,hopefully today i will receive an answer
[12:43] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: no
[12:43] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: they are routerws
[12:43] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, good. Otherwise an attacker would likely now have those passwords...
[12:43] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: but in dorms, they can be used as gateway
[12:44] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: i often use keys to authenticate
[12:44] <Fujitsu> incubii and redrum_, come join us in #ubuntu-au :)
[12:44] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: i ssh my home and then from there i ssh tose hosts with key authentication
[12:44] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, that's a good idea. It means it's unlikely that an attack such as this can be used to get access to other machines, as there is no passpgrase.
[12:44] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: i have gentoo at home
[12:44] <Fujitsu> OK, good. Psih0MAN, you're probably safe.
[12:45] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[12:45] <mp3guy> can somewhere here help me with fonts in blackbox?
[12:46] <zukalk> does anyone know why everytime i reboot i have to manually set 3 resolv.conf nameservers through network-admin? can't connect to any dns server without doing that before, and it's been like this for 4 days
[12:46] <Fujitsu> zukalk, is DHCP overriding them?
[12:46] <Psih0MAN> timmower and Fujitsu : now the apt-get install ssh worked
[12:47] <Fujitsu> Good, Psih0MAN.
[12:47] <canny> Hi there does anyone have any tips for installing ubuntu onto a sil 322 raid 0 partition, happy to format the drives
[12:47] <zukalk> Fujitsu: don't think so, i don't use DHCP on this computer. let me check
[12:47] <JediMaster> zukalk: that would be my guess too, dhcp would overwrite it
[12:47] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: now i look at /usr/bin/ssh atributes
[12:47] <richard> help - how do i install a jar file - its a azureus update
[12:47] <richard> sudo ******** /opt/azureus/azplugins/azplugins_2.0.jar
[12:47] <canny> have found this guide which is close http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2557&page=1&pp=10
[12:47] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: ----------------- /usr/bin/ssh
[12:47] <visik7> anyone know how to use a rt818x module with wext ?
[12:47] <richard> what would i put there 88888
[12:47] <richard> ********
[12:48] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, good.
[12:49] <dean> working fine now, thankyou ic56 and Frogzoo :)
[12:49] <Psih0MAN> Fujitsu: i think i know wht happend: i use ssh to make a tunnel. maybe someone from the outside havked me while i had the tunnel up.
[12:49] <zukalk> Fujitsu, JediMaster: maybe it's because eth1 (wi-fi connection) is not the only one active. eth0 is also on, and it's using dhcp. some kind of conflict, maybe? eth0 is not being used at all, so the best i should do is remove any eth0 settings, right?
[12:49] <ic56> dean: yw!
[12:50] <Fujitsu> Psih0MAN, that could well be it.
[12:50] <Fujitsu> zukalk, yeah.
[12:51] <mp3guy> can somewhere here help me with fonts in blackbox?
[12:51] <meysam>   !
[12:51] <meysam>   !
[12:51] <zukalk> Fujitsu: let me try and reboot, then
[12:52] <Psih0MAN> timmower and Fujitsu : thank you very much. :)
[12:52] <apokryphos> meysam: English only in here, please.
[12:52] <meysam>   !ok
[12:52] <redrum_> !tell [0x90]  about ati
[12:52] <jbroome> is there an ubuntu-iran for meysam ?
[12:52] <canny> has anyone tried this http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto
[12:53] <meysam> ok
[12:53] <jbroome> nice!
[12:53] <meysam> where are u from ?
[12:53] <richard> please! ..... i dont get how to install a jar file - azureus update file - wont install auto cos of  of no permission
[12:53] <meysam>   !
[12:53] <richard> sudo ******** /opt/azureus/azplugins/azplugins_2.0.jar
[12:53] <apokryphos> meysam: English *only*
[12:53] <canny> you shouldnt need to install a jar file richard
[12:54] <richard> its cos of permission!
[12:54] <richard> azureus updater failed
[12:54] <meysam> why ?
[12:54] <richard> permission denied
[12:54] <richard> thats what it says
[12:55] <Flannel> meysam: because we only know english.  we'd redirect you to a support channel in your language... but I don't know if there is one.
[12:55] <jbroome> meysam: because the majority of people in here don't speak arabic.  I know you're from iran from your IP address, not from reading what you're typing. :)
[12:55] <ic56> !cn
[12:55] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese, please join #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-tw
[12:56] <siimo> ubotu: ati
[12:56] <ubotu> from memory, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[12:56] <Flannel> jbroome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat lists channels, I don't think there is one for him.
[12:56] <ic56> !ir ?
[12:56] <ubotu> ic56: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:56] <ic56> What's the ISO code for Arabic?!
[12:56] <ic56> !ar
[12:56] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ic56
[12:56] <meysam> try to learn other language , as we know english !
[12:57] <Fujitsu> !aa
[12:57] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fujitsu
[12:57] <Fujitsu> !ab
[12:57] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fujitsu
[12:57] <Fujitsu> !ai
[12:57] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fujitsu
[12:57] <Fujitsu> !ac
[12:57] <ubotu> Fujitsu: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:57] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[12:57] <jbroome> Fujitsu: stop
[12:58] <ic56> !arabic
[12:58] <ubotu> from memory, arabic is information can be found on http://www.arabeyes.org and #arabeyes on freenode
[12:58] <TheSheep> Fujitsu: you can /msg ubotu :)
[12:58] <Fujitsu> TheSheep, I know.
[01:02] <detectiveinspekt> is it normal for ubuntu to have 100% memory usage after a few hrs, ATM im updating everything < or is it because of that?
[01:02] <planetcall> kindly suggest me a good CD/DVD burner for dapper
[01:02] <wulax> no it's not normal
[01:02] <wulax> detectiveinspekt
[01:03] <detectiveinspekt> how do I tell where the problem is?
[01:04] <spacey> detectiveinspekt: do you look at the right numbers/
[01:04] <spacey> high chance that lot of the memory you refer to as full is just cached
[01:04] <dajeroma> hi to all
[01:04] <ic56> !justask
[01:04] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[01:05] <Mgjs> planetcall, under Kubuntu I used K3B but perhaps GnomeBaker is more suited for the Gnome enviroment
[01:05] <spacey> it will be freed when needed
[01:05] <zukalk> Fujitsu: still won't work
[01:05] <canny> nearly there if i had a 150 gig raid how would people partition it
[01:05] <planetcall> Mgjs, if you have used it,   is it reliable? How is the frontend ?
[01:05] <mateo> Hi
[01:05] <mateo> I have a problem installing dapper
[01:05] <detectiveinspekt> I have the monitor on the pannel and it says 100% in use 74% is chached
[01:05] <mateo> it stalls in mounting root file systems
[01:05] <mateo> system
[01:06] <Mgjs> planetcall, I've only used K3B and it worked flawlessly. Just got around to install Ubuntu 6.06 yesterday, so I've haven't had the time to try GnomeBaker yet
[01:06] <spacey> detectiveinspekt: yeah so only 25% of your memory is in real use, the cached part is just for better performane
[01:06] <graveson> can i just change the runlevel to 5 in the inittab file or are there other considerations
[01:06] <lgd_> hi all
[01:06] <spacey> detectiveinspekt: and will be freed when needed
[01:06] <mateo> and the md5sum check is OK, and it happens both a laptop and a desktop pc
[01:06] <dajeroma> Can someone help me about 2 SATA HD connected in RAID0 on VIA Controller ???
[01:06] <planetcall> Mgjs,  I can still install K3b on Ubuntu but I want to stick with Gnome Specific apps
[01:06] <darkprophet> hi all, i seem to remember its possible to configure grub to make the splash screen resolution bigger
[01:06] <detectiveinspekt> oh k cool, thanks
[01:06] <darkprophet> suse does it fine, but I can't remember the actual command...any ideas ?
[01:07] <tasa> hi all. First of all have to congratulate to Ubuntu devels (if trere are any here). The best Linux flavour i've ever tried by far. I have one question though. Can is set up samba share through gdm without having to edit smb.conf?
[01:07] <mateo> It's an error in the official ISO's ?
[01:07] <spacey> detectiveinspekt: if your memory was really full you would notice, probably your swap is still empty as well, if your memory is full swap is full as well
[01:07] <neutrinomass> mateo: There is an open bug on launchpad about this ...
[01:07] <detectiveinspekt> oh, swap has only 12mb in it
[01:08] <spacey> detectiveinspekt: see, so no worries:)
[01:08] <neutrinomass> spacey: The kernel can swap out stuff to use RAM as a cache instead... it depends on the swappiness parameter ...
[01:08] <Mgjs> planetcall, I think you should be able to install K3B under Gnome, though it will install some extra packages for dependencies
[01:08] <mateo> neutrinomass, ok, and what should I do, wait until the next images ?
[01:08] <Mgjs> planetcall, I'm trying to install GnomeBaker now, I'll give you an update when I've tried bruning some files to a DVD-RW
[01:08] <neutrinomass> mateo: Well, the first thing is add a "me too" on the bug report. It's probably still unconfirmed, which means that no attention has been paid to it .
[01:08] <detectiveinspekt> thanks
[01:08] <neutrinomass> mateo: Take a look around. I'd give you the number but I have to go now ...
[01:09] <mateo> I have located the number, thanks :)
[01:09] <planetcall> Mgjs, thanks. I know K3b would require some dependencies in gnome. Do tell me how does GnomeBaker fare in terms of GUI and configurational options
[01:09] <dajeroma> I need to mount two SATA Hard Disk on a controller VIA VT6420 with Ubuntu, someone can help me ???
[01:10] <jirwin> whats up?
[01:10] <TheSheep> planetcall: it has a "burn cd' button ;)
[01:10] <planetcall> TheSheep, hehe thanks. But i  want it in Pink !
[01:11] <planetcall> ;)
[01:11] <TheSheep> planetcall: then modify your gtk theme
[01:11] <Huffalump> I am a windows user, trying to install Ubuntu on my (formerly) E drive.  I changed that partition into Ext3, put in the Ubuntu Cd.  All is well until it start asking me about mount points and hda5 this and hdb1 that and I do NOT want to overwrite my windows.  I tried to research what the heck a mount point was, but I'm only more confused.  I really thought this would be easier.  Is there a "plain english" explanation for idiots somewhere?
[01:11] <TheSheep> planetcall: you wont's find any options about the looks of gnome apps :)
[01:11] <Pupeno> how do I change the Kubuntu bootsplash to the Ubuntu one ? That one that appears when booting.
[01:12] <InterNut> hi all! im trying to use "phone manager" to connect to my cellphone, i have bluetooth set up and running, but when i try to connect to my pc from my phone i get up a password question, and i havent set one up, and when i try to connect i get "wrong password"... suggestions?
[01:12] <planetcall> TheSheep, yeah gnome is for simplicity.
[01:12] <TheSheep> planetcall: don't get me wrong, it *is*configurable, only not in the application itself
[01:13] <planetcall> TheSheep, yeah I know. I was just kidding. Actually just want to know if the interface of that app is cluttered or not
[01:13] <planetcall> sometimes some apps are very bloated either with too few or too much features which are mostly useless and sometimes horribly unreliable
[01:14] <TheSheep> planetcall: it has options to use Juliet and that something-ridge extensions
[01:14] <planetcall> Joliet ?
[01:14] <TheSheep> planetcall: to eject disc after burning, to set the speed
[01:14] <livingdaylight> Guys! I'm getting: Totem could not play 'fd://0'. You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[01:14] <TheSheep> planetcall: yeah :)
[01:14] <TheSheep> planetcall: you can tell you're talking to a pro :D
[01:14] <dsas> !tell livingdaylight about restrictedformats
[01:14] <Mgjs> planetcall, the GUI is in line with other Gnome apps (Some screenshots here: http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/v2/?page_id=4 ), and it erases and burns dvd-rw fine. The only gripe I have with it from this short test is that it doesn't seem to read the allowed burnspeeds for my drive, so I could set it to write too quick
[01:14] <planetcall> overburning , writebuffer ?
[01:14] <ruaan> hey
[01:14] <mheath> planetcall, no, TheSheep's filesystem is a shakesperean novel. :)
[01:14] <livingdaylight> NOW, i installed easy ubuntu, so therefore i should have all plugins
[01:14] <TheSheep> planetcall: overburning is set through gconf only
[01:15] <livingdaylight> dsas: i installed easyubuntu which is supposed to handle media codecs etc, or not?
[01:15] <mheath> Erm, Shakespearean. And play. You know what? Screw you all, it's way too early for silly things like "getting out of bed"
[01:15] <planetcall> does it sport any writebuffer or whatever it is said
[01:16] <livingdaylight> 	Guys! I'm getting: Totem could not play 'fd://0'. You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins. I've installed easyubuntu, so i don't know what could be missing
[01:16] <planetcall> for error free burning
[01:16] <Mgjs> Didn't notice one, just got a progress bar when i burned to the disc
[01:16] <TheSheep> planetcall: it has 'burnproof' I think
[01:16] <TheSheep> planetcall: as an option
[01:16] <Mgjs> It might just do it under the hood
[01:17] <TheSheep> planetcall: but can;t recall any settings for the size of buffer
[01:17] <Matthewv> livingdaylight, i would recommend trying totem-xine, see the link ubotu sent you
[01:17] <planetcall> Mgjs, that might be critical and decisive. Without burnproof implementation it would be unreliable
[01:17] <TheSheep> planetcall: I don;t have it handy :(
[01:17] <dsas> livingdaylight: Maybe, it may be best to swap backends to xine. If that doesn't work see what the wiki says :)
[01:17] <ic56> Huffalump: you need at least 2 partitions to install Linux: 1 for swap space (aka virtual memory) and another for the root filesystem.
[01:17] <TheSheep> planetcall: is there are reason to ever turn burnproof off? :)
[01:17] <ic56> Huffalump: you still there?
[01:17] <Flannel> ic56: swap space isn't required, per sey.
[01:18] <Huffalump> ic56, I now have 4 partitions.  2 for Windows, plus 2 new ones for Ubuntu
[01:18] <livingdaylight> backends to xine? please i'm a complete linux nincompump
[01:18] <Huffalump> ic56, one is Ext3 and the other is unknown (intended for swap space, after i got that message)
[01:18] <Matthewv> livingdaylight, have a look at the link ubotu sent you
[01:18] <ic56> Flannel: will the ubuntu installer bitch about having no swap partit?
[01:18] <Flannel> ic56: I have no idea.
[01:18] <Matthewv> livingdaylight, basically, it involves installing the totem-xine package in synaptic (System --> Administration --> Package Manager)
[01:18] <livingdaylight> Matthewv:  am not gonna reinstall all the media codecs am i ? i've used easyubuntu for that
[01:19] <Matthewv> livingdaylight, no, you shouldn't have to, just install totem-xine
[01:19] <planetcall> Mgjs, thanks for the screenies buddy. They are comprehensive
[01:20] <livingdaylight> Matthewv: thx for putting it in english for me :)  i can do that.And will that take away the previous version of totem?
[01:20] <Huffalump> ic56, here is my problem:  I don't trust Ubuntu to "automatically" pick the right partition!  So, I wanted to manually make *sure* it installed on the Ext3 partition which I've prepared.  Now, I resized it, to make the swap space thing, but I really really dont understand all this talk about hda5 and hdb1 and hda3 and hdb2 and logical and extended and so forth....
[01:20] <Matthewv> it will mean totem uses a different backend, rather than the default.. I'm not sure exactly what easyubuntu does to install the codecs, I'll see if i can find out :)
[01:21] <Flannel> Huffalump: each disk gets a letter hda hdb are master/slave on primary IDE cable, (hdc hdd are m/s on secondary) and then each partition gets a number.  1-4 are primary, 5+ are extended
[01:21] <Mgjs> planetcall, it appears that GnomeBaker should have burnproof as an entry in GConf according to a thread in the forums
[01:22] <planetcall> one thing more....is the gnomebaker in repo. the latest version ?
[01:22] <Huffalump> Flannel okay, there are two physical hdds, so now I understand hda and hdb - thank you.  I don't get primary and extended, however.
[01:23] <Huffalump> FYI - I am trying to search in the wiki. =\
[01:24] <graveson> my virtual terminals are not working ie ctrl-alt-f1 ,does anyone know how to fix this ?
[01:24] <nico8481> hi
[01:24] <Matthewv> graveson, other than say i had that trouble once in breezy, no, i don't know
[01:25] <nico8481> any idea what could cause this in amarok? : http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2742/snapshot14yd.png
[01:25] <apokryphos> nico8481: what version are you using
[01:25] <graveson> mathewv: thanks anyway
[01:25] <t-thing> Hi. My wireless card broadcam 4318 within nx6110 isn't working properly. It does scan my router but I can't get an ip. I've to the same point with my other computer which has rt61 based card after long struggle. Advices?
[01:26] <nico8481> apokryphos: amarok 1.4.0a
[01:26] <nico8481> apokryphos: from http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14
[01:26] <apokryphos> nico8481: hm, no idea I'm afraid.
[01:27] <apokryphos> nico8481: does falling back to defaults still have the error message there?
[01:27] <gharz> anyone around uses konica minolta magicolor 2300W on his ubuntu or prints to a network printer that uses this model?
[01:27] <mekanzoo> can anyone recommend me a good console bassed chatting software
[01:27] <nico8481> apokryphos: what defaults are you talking about? (and what error message? :p)
[01:27] <apokryphos> nico8481: *error
[01:27] <bobz> how do i run ssh server so i can connect from work etc onto my computer?
[01:28] <apokryphos> nico8481: mv ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc{,old} && mv ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok{,old}
[01:28] <gharz> anyone around uses konica minolta magicolor 2300W on his ubuntu or prints to a network printer that uses this model?
[01:28] <spacey> bobz: install it
[01:28] <apokryphos> nico8481: then restart amarok
[01:28] <nico8481> apokryphos: oh well no i tried it already, did not solve anything
[01:28] <bobz> spacey, what comand?
[01:29] <spacey> bobz: you can search it in synaptic or install it with apt-get, the package name is openssh-server
[01:29] <apokryphos> nico8481: I'm pretty sure it would.... I've tried those packages on several machines and that error wasn't there. Are you *sure* you've reverted properly to defaults?
[01:29] <Huffalump> Anyone, okay I am getting closer.  I definitely want to install on hda.  ...Now, I see hda2, which is formerly my "E drive" ...*but* It seems to have some sub-items?  One is called hda5 in Ext3 and the other is called New Partition #1 in Ext3.   These are the ones I think I want to install to, one for the Ubuntu OS and one for the swap space.   So, I select "hda5" (which really hda2, I guess) and the it asks me about mounting points... so I set those all
[01:29] <gharz> anyone around uses konica minolta magicolor 2300W on his ubuntu or prints to a network printer that uses this model?
[01:30] <t-thing> Matthewv: I've tried with the ndiswrapper and bcm43xx driver.
[01:30] <sirfred> Morning
[01:30] <Matthewv> oh ok, t-thing I'm not sure then
[01:30] <gharz> anyone around uses konica minolta magicolor 2300W on his ubuntu or prints to a network printer that uses this model?
[01:30] <thoreauputic_> gharz: don't repeat please
[01:30] <sirfred> I'm not able to put direct rendering to work with my Radeon 9600. Should it work under dapper ?
[01:31] <gharz> thoreauputic_, ok. sorry.
[01:31] <nico8481> apokryphos: oops i did not do it for the "config" directory, only the "apps" one...
[01:31] <nico8481> apokryphos: gonna try...
[01:31] <apokryphos> that's important, yes
[01:31] <thoreauputic_> !anyone
[01:31] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[01:31] <sirfred> I remember it to work with some previous dapper driver versions.
[01:31] <t-thing> Matthewv: there's a lengthy, 27 page thread on ubuntuforum about this card and people have had varying success with it. I even managed to get working day before yesterday but the next day after reboot.. I've lost it.
[01:32] <Matthewv> t-thing, if you had it working, maybe network-manager might help?
[01:32] <bobz> spacey, how do i change welcome messsage?
[01:32] <t-thing> Matthewv: I'm not familiar with network-manager. I'll have to take a look at it
[01:32] <thoreauputic_> bobz: /etc/issue.net from memory
[01:32] <bobz> kk
[01:33] <Matthewv> k, t-thing its supposed to be really good, but my machine being a desktop ive never used it seriously
[01:33] <nico8481> apokryphos: ok, did it but it still doesn't solve the problem
[01:33] <apokryphos> nico8481: ok, compile a bug report then
[01:34] <nico8481> apokryphos: yeah but what's strange is that i'm the only one experiencing this bug... i asked other persons who got the same package from the same place... it works normally on their computers :-/
[01:34] <planetcall> what is Configuration Editor ? It is installed but not showing in prefer. or admin menu
[01:35] <planetcall> sorry.... where is Configuration Editor i mean .
[01:35] <t-thing> Matthewv: from the I'm not sure if that's what I'm looking for since first I should get it working before a higher level can handle it.
[01:35] <apokryphos> nico8481: the only other thing I can recommend is totally purging amarok and then installing
[01:35] <nico8481> apokryphos: did it too
[01:35] <nico8481> dpkg --purge
[01:35] <Mgjs> planetcall, Go under Applications -> Accessories -> Alacarte Menu Editor and enable it
[01:35] <Master_Shake> Hey I'm having some trouble with compiz.
[01:35] <apokryphos> nico8481: then it's a bug, so report it.
[01:35] <nico8481> k
[01:35] <Master_Shake> Googling found that it's common, but I haven't found a solution that works for me.
[01:35] <Master_Shake> Anyone use that willing to help?
[01:35] <Mgjs> Under system tools
[01:35] <Matthewv> t-thing, i know what you mean, its just that you've had it working before... do you know what you did then to get it working?
[01:36] <gharz> anyone here who can help me set up my konica minolta magicolor 2300W laser printer?
[01:36] <TheBigToe> Is there an application for ubuntu that allows me to take my line in input and play it through my speakers?
[01:36] <ic56> who's the guy trying to install on his E drive?  Is he being helped?
[01:36] <foxiness> hi , am upgrade my system from breezy to dapper it look good but the icon on some place like folder "blue" not what i see on clean one. how can i fix this "reinstall ubuntu artwork has the same result"
[01:36] <apokryphos> nico8481: also mention all the things you tried; i.e. moving config files, purging etc...
[01:36] <Huffalump> ic56, I am here
[01:36] <planetcall> Mgjs, thanks
[01:36] <Huffalump> ic56, I am getting closer but not to a solution just yet
[01:37] <nico8481> yup
[01:37] <Matthewv> livingdaylight, i've been trying to work out exactly what easyubuntu does, but about all i can say is it does what you tell it to do, so i'm nor sure how much it would have done
[01:37] <Huffalump> ic56, I understand now that I want to install to hda
[01:37] <Huffalump> ic56, I cannot figure out what is hda5, hda2, hda6, and hdda7
[01:37] <ic56> Huffalump: sorry, I had to log out and lost my cache of what's been previously said.
[01:37] <Huffalump> ic56, I cannot figure out what is hda5, hda2, hda6, and hda7
[01:37] <Tobberoth> My firefox hung up after getting the new update.. how do I close it?
[01:37] <foxiness> Huffalump, did you know how to use partitino magic?
[01:37] <Tobberoth> I didn't know Linux could hang up >_>
[01:37] <ic56> : windows and linux have a different way of naming partitions.
[01:38] <Huffalump> ic56:  On hda, hda1 is for Windows
[01:38] <Master_Shake> compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
[01:38] <t-thing> Matthewv: I was just trying with different drivers and I think I didn't nothing for a while when it suddenly started working. Even then, it was bit unstable, i guess. It does show that it's possible so I guess I'll just need to try and try now.
[01:38] <Huffalump> ic56: Yes, I used partition magic to set up the Ext3
[01:38] <planetcall> Mgjs, Burnfree is not Activated by default in GnomeBaker. I just checked. You have to activate it manually using Config. Editor
[01:38] <ic56> Huffalump: ok, hda5 is the 5th partition on the first drive.
[01:38] <foxiness> Huffalump, if you delet this "E" then ubuntu will see it like a free space safe to  install on it
[01:38] <Mgjs> planetcall, I'd better go enable it too then, thanks
[01:38] <Tobberoth> I need to somehoe close down the firefox process manually, how do I do it?
[01:39] <Gecko> Hey, how can I record fancy videos of my new compiz setup?
[01:39] <Matthewv> t-thing, probably best i can help you... maybe someone else will know
[01:39] <Huffalump> ic56: So, I have hda1 for Windows.  I *used* to have hda2 as Ext3 for Ubuntu, however I am confused because it shows the little arrow/turtle which means hda2 had sub-items.  One of those items is called "hda5" and is Ext3 and another is called "hda6" (which I tried to make into linux-swap after learning more)
[01:39] <bruce_> I've just managed to kill my fonts during a synaptic session :(
[01:39] <ic56> Huffalump: by "first" drive we mean a physical disk.  Windows simply calls every partition a drive so tehre's no way to know what E: actually is without digging further.
[01:40] <Matthewv> bruce_, maybe a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop' will help
[01:40] <t-thing> Matthewv: well, thanks anyway
[01:40] <Huffalump> ic56: So you recommend I go into windows, delete the "E drive" to blank/unformatted... and then come back to Ubuntu?
[01:40] <bruce_> cool... will try matthew
[01:40] <ic56> Huffalump: no need to delete a drive in windows.  Linux is perfectly capable of that ;-)
[01:41] <Tobberoth> ic56: SOmetimes windows gets very mad if you mess with partitions in another OS
[01:41] <Tobberoth> mine refused to boot after creating and formating one :)
[01:41] <foxiness> ic56, its more clear for him , then for you :)
[01:41] <bruce_> currently, I can read the text in mozilla, the menu and in terminals, just not in x-chat or synaptic (which is what I use to search for packages)
[01:42] <ic56> Huffalump: I'm not familiar with the tool you are using to partition.  "sub-systems" doesn't make sense in my world-view, though, presumably, it does within the tool you are using.
[01:42] <ic56> Huffalump: what tool are you using to partition, anyway?
[01:42] <gharz> anybody here who is using Konica Minolta Magicolor 2300W?
[01:42] <gharz> i just need some info how to set this up.
[01:42] <Jenny_buntu> help! why 'sudo useradd bbbb -h' alawys give full access to filesystem???
[01:42] <boricua> having problems installing macromedia flash in draper,  followed the documentation but packages does not show in multiver repo  it can't connect
[01:42] <Matthewv> bruce_, the above command will ensure that most of the default ubuntu packages are installed.. could install a few things that you don't want but you should be right
[01:43] <ic56> Jenny_buntu: full access to whom?
[01:43] <bobz> any one know any audio cd burners which support .mp3?
[01:43] <Jenny_buntu> ic56 it just like root access.. I dont know why normal user can access everything in shell
[01:43] <TheBigToe> how can I play my line-in through my speakers?
[01:44] <boricua> where can i find the flashplugin-nonfree  pkg?
[01:44] <planetcall> boricua, did you try synaptic ?
[01:44] <boricua> yes i did but it does not appear or it can connect to the multiver
[01:44] <foxiness> may theme its same like it broken not what i see on the live cd, the folder on my desktop its blue one,how can i fix that?
[01:45] <boricua> can't connect
[01:45] <ic56> Jenny_buntu: it is perfectly legitimate for normal users to have access to a shell and to be able to issue commands.  There are some privileges they are denied.  Is there something more specific that's bothering you?
[01:45] <thoreauputic_> !info flashplugin-nonfree dapper
[01:45] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> TheBigToe: What soundcard (I use envy24control for mine and it is very simple)
[01:45] <frfx> !flash
[01:45] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:45] <bruce_> ouch... apt-get reckons ubuntu-desktop (along with a bunch of other stuff I know is installed) isn't installed
[01:45] <boricua> ubotu:that is what i tried and the pkg is not there
[01:45] <bruce_> (dependency problems installing ubuntu-desktop)
[01:45] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, boricua
[01:45] <bruce_> this will be fun
[01:46] <bobz> any one know any linux audio cd burners which support .mp3?
[01:46] <TheBigToe> h3sp4wn, It's some onboard sound, so it'll probably work with envy24control
[01:46] <TheBigToe> I'll check it out
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> TheBigToe: I don't think it will
[01:46] <boricua> ubotu:what do you mean?  i am just trying to add flash to firefox
[01:46] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, boricua
[01:46] <ic56> ubotu tell boricua about yourself
[01:46] <ompaul> !bot
[01:46] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[01:46] <ompaul> !restricted
[01:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> TheBigToe: envy24control is only for ice1712 and 1724 I think
[01:47] <ompaul> boricua, ^^^ read that last one by ubotu
[01:47] <planetcall> kindly suggest a good wordpress weblog client for ubuntu
[01:47] <TheBigToe> oh
[01:47] <Jenny_buntu> ic56 is that when I add normal user sudo useradd ic56 -h then u are not suppose to browse my filesystem, u are actually only browse into you home directory only right..
[01:47] <TheBigToe> Soundcard: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[01:47] <Huffalump> ic56: I got frustrated and went to delete hda5, hda6, hda7 and all those things that Ubuntu kept making (probably because I told it to without knowning)
[01:48] <Mgjs> bobz, according to GnomeBakers feature list it should be able to create audio CD's from MP3 files
[01:48] <Huffalump> ic56: On Disk 1, I now have hda1 which is Windows.    I also have "Unallocated Space" (a term I recognize)
[01:48] <boricua> ompaul: the problem is the synaptic can't connect to the multiver repo
[01:48] <OrTigaS> hi! i did something to my box and theres an error showing. " Fsck.ext2:Bad magic number in super-block while tying to open /dev/hdb3" how can i fix that?
[01:48] <Mgjs> I haven't tried that though
[01:48] <thoreauputic_> boricua: s/multiver/multiverse
[01:49] <ic56> Jenny_buntu: there is no "-h" flag for useradd.  Further, if a user were unable to browse teh filesystem, they would be unable to do *anything*, since, even the most basic of commands (like ls) must be executed from the filesystem.
[01:49] <Huffalump> ic56: When Ubuntu asks me where to install, I choose Disk 1 and it gives me 3 options.  I am about to choose "largest contiguous free space" under the *assumption* that means the same thing as unallocated space, even though the terminology is quite different.
[01:49] <TheBigToe> so, anyone know what I can get to listen to my line-in input?
[01:49] <eamon_> Hi, looking for some help with jpilot. When I installed gnomad2 my jpilot no longer works.  Error:(jpilot:13602): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[01:49] <eamon_>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[01:49] <eamon_> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x081144b0 ***
[01:49] <Healot> !paste
[01:49] <graveson> where can i find info on configuring a SKystar DVB ? any ideas would be welcome
[01:49] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[01:49] <Huffalump> ic56: Does that sound correct?
[01:49] <jessid> hello, is there someone around?
[01:49] <OrTigaS> hello
[01:49] <[swb] > I'm someone
[01:49] <OrTigaS> hi! i did something to my box and theres an error showing. " Fsck.ext2:Bad magic number in super-block while tying to open /dev/hdb3" how can i fix that?
[01:49] <TheBigToe> [swb] , liar
[01:50] <squiddle> jessid  all the others are hiding in the forest
[01:50] <ic56> Jenny_buntu: note that this has nothing to do with whether or not you use the command line.  The same restrictions apply to GUI use -- you still need to be able to read the filesystem in order to get execute GUI programs.
[01:50] <TheBigToe> so,anyone know how I can listen to my line in
[01:50] <Healot> jessid: ask the question, and for Almighty God's sake, someone will help you
[01:50] <[swb] > OrTigaS, sounds like your fs has become somewhat corrupt
[01:50] <boricua> thoreauputic_: yes i mean multiverse  but the packge does no show up
[01:50] <ompaul> boricua, check the contents of this file, /etc/apt/sources.list the multiverse line should be identical to the universe line -- jexcept for the word multiverse being in the place of universe, you can try it a second time it might right itself, > sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list <if you want to edit it
[01:50] <byen> I need help. no wifi manager works for me.. i have to go to System> Networking> Wireless and then select a wifi spot from there. Can someone help me
[01:51] <[swb] > OrTigaS, can you run e2fsck on it?
[01:51] <Hajuu> for nvidia-glx-legacy, should I be using xorg or xfree86?
[01:51] <jessid> squiddle, jjejeje, Healot, thanks....
[01:51] <thoreauputic_> boricua: check your sources list - what mirror are you using ?
[01:51] <OrTigaS> [adw]  still same problem
[01:51] <eamon_> sorry about the paste - I have problem "Locale not uspported by C library".  Anyone know how to correct the error?
[01:51] <squiddle> np
[01:51] <ic56> Huffalump: yes, that makes sense.  "free space" = unallocated space.  "largest contiguous" = the biggest of you free spaces, should there be more than one, separated by partitions in-use.
[01:51] <thoreauputic_> boricua: you updated, right?
[01:51] <TheBigToe> so,anyone know how I can listen to my line in?
[01:51] <gustav_> Hajuu: xorg
[01:52] <Huffalump> ic56: thank you
[01:52] <OrTigaS> but when i reboot to root it went through
[01:52] <ic56> Huffalump: yw!
[01:52] <squiddle> eamon_  what is your locale? find out with the command locale
[01:52] <jessid> look, I downloaded a file wit nrg extension, and i think it is a kind of iso, or something like that...what application can I use to write it to a CD???
[01:52] <boricua> thoreauputic_: i dont see the file changing when i add the multiverse repo in synaptic
[01:52] <squiddle> jessid  nero
[01:53] <eamon_> thaks squiddle
[01:53] <ic56> TheBigToe: I have no idea what you mean by "listen to my line in"
[01:53] <TheBigToe> so,anyone know how I can listen to my line in?
[01:53] <boricua> thoreauputic_: using this deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:53] <bobz> any one know any linux audio cd burners which support .mp3?
[01:53] <thoreauputic_> boricua: try gksudo gedit "/etc/apt/sources.list"  - add multiverse to the end of each universe line
[01:53] <jessid> squiddle...can I use k3b?
[01:53] <thoreauputic_> boricua: that's only backports
[01:54] <squiddle> jessid  i dunno, maybe but nrg is a slightly non-standard format
[01:54] <thoreauputic_> boricua: you need the normal universe and multiverse
[01:54] <thoreauputic_> boricua: ah sorry misread
[01:54] <jessid> squiddle so nero in windows????
[01:54] <squiddle> jessid  there is nrg2iso to convert it, but this fails sometimes :)
[01:54] <thoreauputic_> boricua: looks OK at first glance actually
[01:54] <squiddle> jessid  no there is nere for linux too, but you have to get it from ahead yourself
[01:54] <wulax> ubuntu should include GnomeBaker or similar by default...
[01:54] <jessid> squiddle ok, thaks man...
[01:55] <thoreauputic_> boricua: oops no - I was right the first time
[01:55] <squiddle> jessid  try nrg2iso if it works your fine with k3b if it doesn't you nicely screwed
[01:55] <boricua> thoreauputic_: thats what the doc says but the package does not show up
[01:55] <thoreauputic_> boricua: that refers to backports
[01:55] <h3sp4wn> ic56: He wants the input from his line in on his sound card to come out of his speakers - I don't know how to do that with raw alsa just envy24control
[01:55] <Gecko> I once read about a program, that could make you handle your hand-compiled apps through dpkg. Does anyone know what I am talking about?
[01:55] <Master_Shake> compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
[01:55] <apokryphos> Gecko: checkinstall. ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[01:55] <Master_Shake> Hey I'm using ati proprietary drivers. Does anyone know what that's about?
[01:55] <thoreauputic_> boricua: check ubotu below
[01:55] <thoreauputic_> !sources
[01:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:55] <ic56> jessid: google for: nrg file.  You'll learn more.
[01:55] <Healot> Gecko: it's either checkinstall or dh_make
[01:56] <Yoric> How can I determine the make of my motherboard without opening the computer ?
[01:56] <Yoric> (doesn't seem to appear in the Device Manager)
[01:56] <jessid> squiddle I think I understood, jejejej; ic56 ok man, thanks
[01:56] <Healot> both actually, works a bit different in some sense
[01:56] <[swb] > Yoric, lspci
[01:56] <Gecko> Healot: checkinstall, yes. Thanks :)
[01:56] <hyphenated> Yoric: you can only guess from the chipsets
[01:56] <[swb] > should tell you the chipset at least
[01:56] <ic56> h3sp4wn: nice that someone speaks TheBigToe's language. :-)
[01:56] <Yoric> Ok, that'll do, thanks.
[01:57] <Healot> dh_make can also be used to compile/package from source... Gecko
[01:57] <DustyDingo> hi, i have some problems with a gam_server process running
[01:57] <DustyDingo> i dont't know why it runs and it needs about 14% of cpu-time
[01:57] <TheBigToe> hehe ic56 :P
[01:57] <ic56> TheBigToe: :-)
[01:58] <triplep> Gecko : dpkg-buildpackage
[01:58] <mpmc> Anyone help, My sound seems to have disappeared....
[01:58] <DustyDingo> idears?
[01:58] <sambrista> Hi! I use ubuntu dapper and i set my other hard disk drives in noauto mode. Anyone knows why when i mount them, they don't appear in the desktop?
[01:58] <eamon_> Squiddle -  alot of info in locale cammond.  eg "cannot set LC_CTYPE"  "LC_IDENTIFICATION en_ie_UTF-8"
[01:58] <Gecko> triplep: it was checkinstall I looked for :)
[01:58] <boricua> thoreauputic_: i see the multiverse channel does not show in synapctic i need to add it manually
[01:58] <squiddle> eamon_  what is ie?
[01:58] <eamon_> IRELAND
[01:59] <cyphase> argh
[01:59] <Scorpmoon> how do I make a folder and all its subfolders show as list, not icons?
[01:59] <cyphase> X keeps restarting by itself
[01:59] <Healot> English (Ireland)
[01:59] <ic56> jessid: looks like .nrg *is* supported in Linux.  Sorry I don't know more.  Use google's linux search for details.
[01:59] <Healot> there is an nrg to ISO CDImage converter
[01:59] <squiddle> eamon_  try as root locale-gen
[02:00] <eamon_> OK
[02:00] <OrTigaS> hi! i did something to my box and theres an error showing. " Fsck.ext2:Bad magic number in super-block while tying to open /dev/hdb3" how can i fix that?
[02:00] <byen> how can i connect to wifi posts via the terminal... any sugg?
[02:00] <byen> spots*
[02:00] <Huffalump> I suppose someday ie will finally be gaelic again
[02:01] <eamon_> squiddle locale-gen command not found - I am using breezy
[02:01] <bruce_> problem solved - xfonts was updated amongst a pile of other stuff I was getting from debian amd64 testing - wasn't configured because something else had choked it
[02:01] <Master_Shake> Can anyone in here help me with a Compiz problem?
[02:01] <ic56> Huffalump: huh?
[02:01] <bruce_> is all good now
[02:01] <Healot> jessid: convert NRG files to standard ISO image using this package "nrg2iso"
[02:01] <jessid> ic56, squiddle thanks a lot...it seems nrg2iso worked good
[02:01] <InterNut> hi all! im trying to use "phone manager" to connect to my cellphone, i have bluetooth set up and running, but when i try to connect to my pc from my phone i get up a password question, and i havent set one up, and when i try to connect i get "wrong password"... suggestions?
[02:01] <boha_> pls someone tell me how to mount NTFS partition
[02:01] <apokryphos> boha_: FAQ
[02:01] <bruce_> ltr peeps
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> jessid: I think if you have a valid license for nero for windows you can use nero for linux with it
[02:01] <Huffalump> ic56: just getting throwing my 2 cents into someone else's converstation. heh.  it seems to be installing right now, so I trust all will be well.
[02:01] <ic56> jessid: you're welcome and thanks for the update!
[02:01] <thoreauputic_> eamon_: /usr/sbin/locale-gen
[02:01] <MeTTY> hi all, how can i start an application from tty to display 0
[02:01] <MeTTY> ?
[02:02] <jessid> Healot, h3sp4wn yeah! nrg2iso woeked ok, and Il burn it with k3b....thanks again!!!
[02:02] <jessid> I see you....
[02:02] <Gecko> How can make ubuntu use gcc3 instead of gcc4 while compile a package?
[02:02] <selinium> Hi all, since upgrading to dapper, update-manager no longer shows the changes. Is this a bug?
[02:02] <eamon_> command not found sudo /usr/sbin/locale-gen
[02:02] <Stormx2> Hi everyone
[02:03] <squiddle> eamon_  install belocs-locales-bin
[02:03] <thoreauputic_> eamon_: something wrong there
[02:03] <eamon_> squiddle OK
[02:03] <ic56> OrTigaS: that's a very scary error.  It's saying your filesystem is corrupt.  Maybe you're lucky and the problem is that you're trying to mount something that *isn't* a Linux fileysstem?
[02:03] <Healot> Gecko set CC="gcc-3.3" or CC="gcc-3.4" before the ./configure or make command
[02:03] <squiddle> eamon_  you tried running locale-gen as root, did you?
[02:04] <Yoosah> whoa
[02:04] <Healot> !ati
[02:04] <ubotu> methinks ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[02:04] <Stormx2> Having problems with a VAIO laptop... Running the Live CD, and it gives me I/O errors on hdc, when it gets to "configuring X". It gives me about 20 of these then hangs... its not listed in the Laptop SUpport wiki page, what do I do?
[02:04] <thoreauputic_> !find /usr/sbin/locale-gen
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> Gecko: If that doesn't work have a look in the 'Makefile' sometimes CC is hardcoded in
[02:05] <SonicChao> I would like to know if Ubuntu supports tcl/tk
[02:05] <squiddle> SonicChao  it does
[02:05] <eamon_> yes tried running with "sudo locale-gen"
[02:05] <thoreauputic_> SonicChao: yes
[02:05] <squiddle> eamon_  ok, so you have to install this belocs-thingy
[02:05] <Stormx2> Anyone? Look up!
[02:05] <squiddle> SonicChao  np
[02:06] <eamon_> squiddle - how do I install - command not known
[02:06] <ic56> Stormx2: I had a very similar error on a desktop.  It turned out to be bad RAM.  Try booting in memtest to check your RAM.
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> SonicChao: What do you mean supports it - It has the packages - Whether you can get support for it in here depends on who knows it
[02:06] <squiddle> eamon_  ? sudo  apt-get install belocs-locales-bin
[02:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of '/usr/sbin/locale-gen' returned no results.
[02:06] <squiddle> !apt
[02:06] <ubotu> well, apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[02:06] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[02:07] <ic56> !justask
[02:07] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[02:07] <ltibor65> Hi guys! Please help me! Where can I find midnight commander for Dapper?
[02:07] <bobz> s there any c compilers i can get via apt-get install?
[02:07] <[swb] > gcc
[02:07] <boricua> thoreauputic_: ok i see how to add it now  thanks  i got it
[02:07] <squiddle> bobz  gcc
[02:07] <linuxboyfriend> whats the difference b/w "sudo apt-get install package" and "sudo aptitude install package"
[02:07] <bobz> squiddle every type i do ./configure
[02:07] <thoreauputic_> eamon_: $ apt-file search /usr/sbin/locale-gen
[02:07] <thoreauputic_> belocs-locales-bin: usr/sbin/locale-gen
[02:07] <bobz> it says no acceptable c compiler
[02:07] <bobz> found
[02:07] <boricua> is it a godo idea to leave the multiverse active?
[02:07] <ic56> !tell bobz about build-essential
[02:08] <Healot> boricua: define "good idea"
[02:08] <thoreauputic_> eamon_: you need nelocs-locales-bin apparently
[02:08] <thoreauputic_> *belocs
[02:08] <bobz> !gcc
[02:08] <ubotu> [gcc]  the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[02:08] <boricua> if i use a pkg from multiverse should i leave it active for ever>
[02:08] <void^> !info mc
[02:08] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 2073 kB, Installed size: 5952 kB
[02:08] <jessid> good bye, and thanks all of you!!!
[02:08] <thoreauputic_> boricua: it's fine
[02:08] <void^> ^^ ltibor65
[02:08] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone tell me the difference?
[02:08] <thoreauputic_> boricua: multiverse won't break anything
[02:08] <squiddle> linuxboyfriend  there is not much of a difference
[02:09] <squiddle> linuxboyfriend  aptitude is keeping track of dependencies when you are removing packages
[02:09] <squiddle> linuxboyfriend  it removes unneccessary one, apt-get doesn't
[02:09] <Stormx2> ic56: And if it is bad ram, what do I do?
[02:10] <Healot> Stormx2: replace and find a new working RAM
[02:10] <eamon_> squiddle - done and ran locale-gen in root - same result  en_IE.UTF-8 UP-TO-DATE
[02:10] <frague> HELLO
[02:10] <ltibor65> Is'nt midnight commander in Dapper?
[02:10] <frague> helllllpppppppp
[02:10] <ic56> ltibor65: to get midnight commander: sudo apt-get install mc
[02:10] <Healot> yes... but not installed by default... ltibor65
[02:10] <bobz> any one know any linux audio cd burners which support .mp3?
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> mc doesn't work that well with utf8 does it ? unless someone fixed it for dapper
[02:11] <denny_> hello, there is a french guy?
[02:11] <squiddle> !fr
[02:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:11] <BlueEagle> !flash
[02:11] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:11] <frague> ici il y a 1 franais
[02:11] <Yoosah> bobz: k3b, with mp3 support
[02:12] <squiddle> eamon_  thats sad
[02:12] <squiddle> eamon_  what programm yre you trying to run?
[02:12] <eamon_> WHY?squiddle
[02:12] <frague> j'ai plein de pbs avec la migration de breezy > dapper
[02:12] <ic56> Stormx2: yeah, finding bad RAM sucks -- it's expensive to replace.  However, you *can* tell Linux to ignore the bad parts, if they're aggregated in a specific area.  If memtest reports the RAM is mostly good except for a section, come back here and we'll tell you how to do that.
[02:12] <ic56> !fr
[02:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:12] <frague> k
[02:12] <age6racer> Ive just installed mythtv, but i'm getting errors because of my MySQL. How do I set up a db etc?
[02:13] <eamon_> squiddle I have problem with jpilot after I installed gnomad2 (latest .deb files and dependencies)
[02:13] <bobz> Yoosah
[02:13] <bobz> where do i get k3b?
[02:13] <Yoosah> bobz: just sudo apt-get install k3b
[02:13] <Afief> bobz: sudo apt-get install k3b
[02:13] <planetcall> bobz are you using kubuntu ?
[02:14] <ltibor65> ic56, Healot, thank you very much, first I did not found it in Synaptic, because I searched it as "midnigt commander", but it is so "mc".
[02:14] <squiddle> eamon_  you can try running your programm with LC_ALL="" jpilot
[02:14] <Yoosah> i vote for synaptic, you can search on words in description :)
[02:14] <squiddle> eamon_  but this is not a solution just a workaround
[02:14] <karim> hi
[02:14] <Afief> karim: hi
[02:14] <karim> what are the the sound cards the best supported on linux ?
[02:14] <ic56> ltibor65: you're welcome!
[02:14] <ic56> !justask
[02:14] <sephran> hey is VLC still available to Ubuntu?
[02:14] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[02:14] <Yoosah> sephran: it is
[02:15] <Afief> karim: i have an onbored ac97, works like a charm
[02:15] <karim> I know creative is crap. I have a sblive 5.1 digital with horrible mixer stettings. I am wondering about Terratec
[02:15] <squiddle> karim  sb-live 128 or some other ones with hardware-mixing
[02:15] <Healot> karim: any card that have a good support...
[02:15] <Healot> unlike SB bs's
[02:15] <sephran> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html  <-- doesnt seem to work, but I'm using live ubuntu
[02:15] <karim> Afief, sound sucks on nforce2. nforce4 not that bad with realtek, but still not as good as a simple sblive 5.1 digital
[02:15] <Pecisk> karim: what about Terratec?
[02:15] <Healot> even with my 5.1 AC97, I can stil get the same quality with both digital/analogue output
[02:16] <karim> Pecisk, I am wondering that
[02:16] <Afief> karim: well, i mostly use my computer for coding and compiling, i have other hardware for my MP3 music collection
[02:16] <karim> Healot, it depends of the chipset. AC97 is just a standart
[02:16] <eamon_> squiddle error "glibc detected *** free() : invalid pointer 0x0811..."
[02:16] <Pecisk> anyone know how to get driver for Conexant modems on Ubuntu? I know it is Winmodem, but still
[02:16] <age6racer> I have ac97 & sb 5.1 both sound about the same and are equally simple to setup
[02:16] <ompaul> !winmodem
[02:16] <Healot> via 686 is the best... chipset for built-ins
[02:16] <ubotu> it has been said that winmodem is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto for instructions on setting up your modem (including winmodems). Additional info can be found at http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[02:17] <squiddle> eamon_  wow, sorry but this jpilot/gnomad seems to be crap :o try LC_ALL="C" jpilot
[02:17] <ompaul> Pecisk, ^^ read ubotu there
[02:17] <Pecisk> karim: Terratec cards are very well suported
[02:17] <squiddle> Pecisk  but they mostly do not have hardware-mixing so you have to hope on dmix
[02:17] <Healot> wait, mine a Realtek chipset...
[02:18] <eamon_> squiddle how can i send a message to you only  and save the others?
[02:18] <Pecisk> squiddle: hmmm, mostly because they are just IO with good RCA contacts
[02:18] <Pecisk> and that's what I need
[02:18] <Yoosah> anybody have experience with webcams? what types are a safe buy?
[02:18] <Pecisk> ompaul: thanks
[02:18] <Pecisk> :)
[02:18] <Scorpmoon> i can't transfer my photos from windows to linux using gFTP.. it stalls.. is that because of weird filenames?
[02:18] <Pecisk> squiddle: I expect mixing to happen in software
[02:19] <Pecisk> hardware mixing in cards are too much burden on drivers, I think
[02:19] <squiddle> Pecisk  yeah but linux is crap in that regard, try running quake3 and playing a music
[02:19] <eamon_> squiddle same error with LC_ALL="C" jpilot
[02:19] <squiddle> eamon_  ok, im out, i have no clue, why jpilot is ignoring/not supporting your locale
[02:19] <symtab> hello, any ideas where i can get gaim-2.0beta3 for ubuntu?
[02:19] <Pecisk> squiddle: yep, so I hope on polysound and some Gstreamer or ALSA solution
[02:19] <tlp2> hi, when i start my computer instead of going into the OS selection menu, my computer says: grub loading, please wait..." and then it says "error 22" what do i do?
[02:19] <Pecisk> dmix actually works for most people
[02:20] <Pecisk> when there is multiple cards with multiple channels - then things get complicated
[02:20] <squiddle> Pecisk  this won't help, cause quake3 will always wan't exclusive acces on the card
[02:20] <eamon_> squiddle many thanks for trying - best of luck to Germany in the World Cup
[02:20] <Pecisk> squiddle: then is more or less q3 fault
[02:20] <boha_> how can i mount .bin or .cue file??
[02:21] <squiddle> eamon_  for gods sake, i thought im save here about this soccer stuff :)
[02:21] <Healot> Football
[02:21] <boha_> i have those files on NTFS partition
[02:21] <Pecisk> boha_: you should convert it first using bchunk
[02:21] <Pecisk> to iso
[02:21] <livingdaylight> Matthewv: thx for that. Yea, i've got easubuntu ticked all the way really, so to the max
[02:21] <h3sp4wn> Pecisk: My ice card has hardware mixing (i.e of its inputs and outputs) but not so you don't need dmix
[02:21] <Pecisk> hmmm
[02:21] <Pecisk> good
[02:22] <boha_> ok tnx will try
[02:22] <livingdaylight> Matthewv: by the way i've installed totem xine and now i've lost video clip capacity but i have audio instead
[02:22] <Yoosah> symtab: sourceforge?
[02:22] <tlp2> hi, when i start my computer instead of going into the OS selection menu, my computer says: grub loading, please wait..." and then it says "error 22" what do i do?
[02:22] <Pecisk> I am just not sure, that I don't have it, maybe I have it too, I am just usally don't depend on it, as I usually work with one sound output
[02:22] <onkarshinde> livingdaylight: What are you trying to play?
[02:22] <Yoosah> any tips on what webcam to buy?
[02:23] <Pecisk> livingdaylight: try videolan client, aka vlc
[02:23] <Pecisk> Yoosah: google for USB webcam Linux support
[02:23] <Pecisk> Yoosah: there is list somewhere with good notes and information about which webcam uses which codec/compression/driver
[02:24] <tlp2> hello? did anyone even see my question
[02:24] <Yoosah> Pecisk: i googled already, wanter to see if anyone had experienced problems or success :)
[02:24] <livingdaylight> onkarshinde: i was trying to watch the vid clip on http://www.johnderuiter.com/Seminar_Excerpts.html The site uses quicktime
[02:24] <squiddle> tlp2  search for grub "error 22" in google or the ubuntu forums
[02:24] <profoXP> What distribution would I use best for my server ? It would be best if it had binary kernel packages with Grsecurity or PaX kernel patches. And which control panel would you recommend? (Like directadmin or webmin)
[02:24] <Pecisk> I had tested various Logitech cams
[02:24] <onkarshinde> Yoosah: How about searching on wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:24] <Pecisk> some worked very well, Philips chipsed based
[02:25] <livingdaylight> Pecisk: does vlc do things that totem doesn't?
[02:25] <ic56> tlp2: the problem is an error in your grub configuration
[02:25] <Yoosah> Pecisk: yeah the impression i got was that most lt quickcams work and philips has support too
[02:25] <Pecisk> livingdaylight: if you are trying to use totem plugin for viewing quicktime, stop it, it doesn't work for Qt for now, afaik
[02:25] <onkarshinde> livingdaylight: This is dumb question. But have you installed w32codecs? Even then if you are experiencing problem then delete .xinerc from your home directory
[02:26] <squiddle> tlp2  the error suggests that your partition is missing, so most likely your grub conf is qrong
[02:26] <ic56> tlp2: try hitting  when grub starts, then the escape key.  That should get you a grub command line prompt.  If you get that far, we can help you.
[02:26] <snoops> I've used vlc on windows for a few years.. it's bloody brilliant for most.. and you can really configure it.. gives a lot of power to tweakers in a gui..
[02:26] <gharz> guys, i find the icons on my desktop so big... how can i change the size and automatically uses the same size everytime a new icon is added... i don't want to use right click->stretch icon everytime.
[02:26] <onkarshinde> livingdaylight: Ok. What Pecisk is saying is right
[02:26] <Pecisk> Yoosah: just be aware just some of them requires binary blobs and can make your system unstable
[02:26] <livingdaylight> onkarshinde: so what does, for QT?
[02:26] <snoops> there is a known problem with xgl and rdesktop..a fix was made, but not a very nice one for users who are new and such.. so I made another fix.. where can I submit it?
[02:26] <livingdaylight> Pecisk: what is the solution?
[02:27] <onkarshinde> livingdaylight: You may want to install mozilla-mplayer instead. Will pull lot of dependencies.
[02:27] <Pecisk> livingdaylight: hack web html and try to download quicktime directly
[02:27] <Yoosah> Pecisk: thanks :)
[02:27] <frague> I've problems with update to dapper and GRUB
[02:27] <Pecisk> livingdaylight: view source in Firefox and try to check out where quicktime file is embeded, copy url and download it with "wget url"
[02:27] <onkarshinde> frague: What problems?
[02:27] <frague> Could sone help me ?
[02:27] <TheBigToe> how can I output my line-in through my speakers using either alsa or oss?
[02:28] <nicoduck> hi
[02:28] <h3sp4wn> karim: With terratec or m-audio you can use jackd instead of dmix (but I havent worked out how jackd works that well yet)
[02:28] <Pecisk> livingdaylight: I want Totem plugin to view Quicktime badly as you, but hey, they are still working on that, as far as I know
[02:28] <frague> I tryed to update through network : it failed
[02:28] <Huffalump> ic56: installation finished nicely, the system is updating.  I have another question - is there a simple/stupid answer for why I cannot mount a FAT32 drive from Ubuntu?  As you might expect, I put all my photos, music, movies, documents, etc onto a FAT32 partition.  Ubuntu sees the partition, but wont let me open it.
[02:28] <onkarshinde> TheBigToe: Right Click speaker icon in panel, open volume control and make sure line-in is not muted
[02:28] <ic56> hey, Huffalump
[02:28] <Pecisk> jackd is for profesional audio, it is not quite a software mixing solution
[02:28] <TheBigToe> oh, thanks onkarshinde
[02:29] <tlp2> someone told me yesterday that the 686 version of dapper would run faster on my PM1.86 than the 386 did, is that true?
[02:29] <frague> so I dl the CD, install it and I've pbs with GRUB
[02:29] <Pecisk> Huffalump: installed final version or some beta?
[02:29] <TheBigToe> never thought it would be that easy :P
[02:29] <Huffalump> Pecisk: 6.06 plus the updates it is getting right now.
[02:29] <nicoduck> this channel is very good to get NO support, thanks
[02:29] <onkarshinde> frague: 'it failed' tells nothing to us. What errors? What problems?
[02:29] <Pecisk> Huffalump: that is trange, should work
[02:29] <babo> does anyone know if I can watch the soccer game on the internet ?
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> Pecisk: M-audio cards are professional cards
[02:30] <ic56> Huffalump: you cannot access the drive because you didn't tell the installer about it.  There is a script to patch your config.  I authored the latest version.  You want it?
[02:30] <Pecisk> Huffalump: check out at 'sudo bash' if you can cd in /media/hd...
[02:30] <Pecisk> h3sp4wn: I know :)
[02:30] <frague> I think dependencies pbs, and big grub problems
[02:30] <funkmaster> hey people, i have a weird problem, i was installing ubuntu 6.06 on my machine, everything goes fine, only thing is that my internet doe snot work, the setting is that eth0 is set to listen to dhcp, which it does and it seems like when u boot it that it works, cuz with ifconfig i can c the assigned ip, but internet is not working, if i take down the card with ifdown and then bring it up again it can find the lease... i know for sure there i
[02:30] <funkmaster> problem with the dhcp, well cuz it#s from my isp and it works fine on other computers, also the live cd of ubuntu configures the internet correct and i can use it, just the oem install the internet does not work, i have no idea anymore what to do, any1 has a suggestion?
[02:30] <onkarshinde> frague: Yes. But what grub problem? Dependencies can be solved later
[02:31] <Pecisk> funkmaster: open Terminal and check out "ifconfig" if there is real IP address
[02:31] <Fr0Gs> hey all
[02:31] <funkmaster> sorry that should read it can not get the dhcp lease when bring eth0 up again
[02:31] <Pecisk> funkmaster: that's first
[02:31] <Fr0Gs> can someoone help me find
[02:31] <Fr0Gs>   linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386
[02:31] <boha_> Pecisk,
[02:31] <funkmaster> i did
[02:32] <funkmaster> and like i said only when i boot
[02:32] <onkarshinde> Fr0Gs: ARe you still on hoary?
[02:32] <Fr0Gs> yes
[02:32] <Fr0Gs> and i need it badly
[02:32] <nine> how generate a new Xorg.conf ?
[02:32] <funkmaster> and when i disconnect the cable and reconnect i can get internet working for a few seconds maybe  min then its gone again
[02:32] <boha_> i tryed bchunk but i have 1 problem
[02:32] <Healot> "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" >> 9 nine
[02:32] <Huffalump> ic56: Yes, where I can I find this script?
[02:32] <boha_> how to specify output directory
[02:32] <onkarshinde> Fr0Gs: It must be in hoary repositories or Hoary CD. Can't help you. Me on Dapper
[02:33] <Pecisk> funkmaster: hmmm, strange, feels like your ISP have done something wrong
[02:33] <Fr0Gs> would it be on 4.10 cd
[02:33] <Huffalump> ic56: Also, where do I tell the installer about it next time?  I hope to install Ubuntu on more computers.
[02:33] <Fr0Gs> because i got that on my case atm
[02:33] <frague> my HDs are detected by breezy as hda, hdb, hdf , and resp.   by dapper as hde,hdf and hdb
[02:33] <funkmaster> well i have debian sarge running as well  and there is works with no problem
[02:33] <onkarshinde> nine: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[02:33] <funkmaster> also the live cd of ubuntu has no problem
[02:33] <funkmaster> only the base install
[02:33] <Huffalump> Pecisk:  I will try that
[02:33] <_jason> Fr0Gs: linux-headers for the kernel are on the current cd, so they are probably on the hoary one as well
[02:33] <Hobbsee> OrTigaS: please get rid of that away message
[02:34] <Fr0Gs> ok
[02:34] <Fr0Gs> what do i put in repositories
[02:34] <Fr0Gs> to find it on the cd
[02:34] <nine> thank's
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> Pecisk: xine supports jackd which is all I use for listening to audio - alsa also has a jack plugin
[02:34] <ic56> Huffalump: latest version (it's a beta, but I'm supporting it, so I'll walk you through it) is at: http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt
[02:34] <onkarshinde> Fr0Gs: run command 'sudo apt-cdrom add' It will ask you to put CD in drive
[02:34] <_jason> Fr0Gs: if you use synaptic, there is an option in the menus to add a cd-rom repository
[02:34] <_jason> or that
[02:35] <frague> so I don't known how to tell to GRUB to start my kernel, which is on /hdb1 (on breezy naming))
[02:35] <ic56> Huffalump: point your browser to that url, save-as in your browser, get a shell prompt, and tell me where you placed it.  I'll give you subsequent instructions.
[02:35] <Huffalump> ic56:  let me try to install an IRC client on the Ubuntu machine
[02:35] <Huffalump> ic56: brb
[02:35] <ic56> Huffalump: ok
[02:36] <Gog123> hi
[02:36] <onkarshinde> frague: when in grub press 'c' for command line and then set various things like initrd, kernel image etc.
[02:36] <babo> does anyone know if I can watch the soccer game on the internet ?
[02:37] <frague> so HD naming is not same on breezy and dapper
[02:37] <nine> i dont have the modules to my X server start
[02:37] <onkarshinde> frague: It is same. It has nothing to do with Ubuntu version
[02:37] <casanova> AHH, i heard that SPARC Niagara support will be fully integrated in Dapper
[02:37] <nine> how i install the modules ?
[02:37] <onkarshinde> nine: did you just upgrade?
[02:37] <nine> no
[02:38] <frague> GRUB don't find the second part of start
[02:38] <nine> i have installed automatix
[02:38] <casanova> By the way, why the Xubuntu is so poor with repositories?
[02:38] <onkarshinde> nine: automatix has nothing to do with X
[02:38] <nine> onkarshinde : and after that i can't enter in X server
[02:38] <frague> it load the MBR side, but don't find the /root
[02:38] <xandhy> hi i'm looking for information how-to prepare pdf file printing in ubuntu dapper - information from page http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/ doesn't work (different version of cups IMO)
[02:38] <nine> i dont no, but i think that i tried to install the modules for my graphic card
[02:39] <onkarshinde> nine: which graphic card?
[02:39] <nine> intel extreme graphics
[02:39] <MacSlow> re
[02:39] <tripppy> !ubuto dapper
[02:39] <ubotu> tripppy: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:39] <nine> onkarshinde : e fails in this modules libGLcore.so
[02:39] <nine> can't load
[02:39] <tripppy> !ubuto dapper upgrade
[02:39] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tripppy
[02:39] <InterNut> what keyboard layout should i select when i'm using logitech S510 ??
[02:40] <onkarshinde> nine: It doesn't need any special modules. Try this, 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' It will make sure that you have all the packages you need.
[02:40] <Hobbsee> !tell tripppy about upgrade
[02:40] <ic56> frague: there are two places where root is mentioned in grub's config: the root keyword, and the root argument of the kernel keyword.  They each have different syntax.
[02:40] <onkarshinde> tripppy: he doesn't understand multiple words. Just say, !upgrade
[02:41] <tripppy> mm how do i tell if i have upgraded?
[02:41] <nine> it have installed something
[02:41] <nine> but isn't work
[02:41] <onkarshinde> tripppy: from your kernel version.
[02:42] <ic56> frague: for the root keyword, hdb1, in grub speak, is "(hd1,0)"
[02:42] <onkarshinde> nine: I have never played with automatix. Can't really help
[02:42] <nine> it continues to say that don't have the modules
[02:42] <onkarshinde> nine: How did you try to start X?
[02:42] <nine> but you now ho install the modules for xserver
[02:42] <nine> sudo startx
[02:42] <Healot> !automatix
[02:42] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:42] <Healot> see what the bot says about it
[02:43] <onkarshinde> nine: Can you tell us what modules it is complaining about?
[02:43] <tripppy> kernel version?
[02:43] <nine> the fist is LIbGlcore
[02:43] <arctanx> hi, I was wondering, does the stocky breezy kernel include framebuffer support? so I can set a resolution using vga= ?
[02:43] <nine> libGLcoire.so
[02:43] <h3sp4wn> ic56 / frague: it is correct that that is in grub speak but if you only have hdb not hda then grub still considers it hd0
[02:44] <nicoduck> has anybody an idea why ubuntu live isn't booting pn imac g5?
[02:44] <nine> after GLcore, i810, kbd, mouse , synaptics
[02:44] <ic56> Trippy: cat /lsb-release .  It contains the name and version number of the release.
[02:45] <onkarshinde> nine: Ok. Lot of things are missing. Try above command once more. 'sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop'. Notice '-f' It will fix packages
[02:45] <ic56> h3sp4wn: good point.  Hopefully frague's system doesn't have this complication.
[02:45] <nicoduck> ....
[02:46] <tripppy> ic56, didnt work
[02:46] <nine> he don't install anything ...
[02:47] <onkarshinde> nine: I don't know why automatix f**ked up with X. Try asking in #automatix
[02:47] <bobz> any one any idea , I have nofirewall or anything i can connect to ssh using 192.168.1.5 but not my ip any ideas?
[02:47] <nine> onkarshinde : thanks
[02:47] <tripppy> !ubuto kernel
[02:47] <ubotu> tripppy: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:47] <ic56> tripppy: tell me *exactly* what you typed in Terminal, and exactly what came back.  Also, this only works on Ubuntu -- not other Linux variants.
[02:47] <LeaChim> bobz, what's your ip then? :/
[02:47] <xandhy> once again: hi i'm looking for information how-to prepare pdf file printing in ubuntu dapper - information from page http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/ doesn't work (different version of cups IMO)
[02:47] <tripppy> cat /lsb-release
[02:48] <sss> can i open chatrooms using firefox?
[02:48] <sss> how?
[02:48] <tripppy> cat /lsb-release
[02:48] <tripppy> cat: /lsb-release: No such file or directory
[02:48] <ic56> tripppy: is it your kernel's version number you want?  I thought you wanted to know if an upgrade from breezy to dapper had taken place.
[02:48] <onkarshinde> xandhy: WHy do you need PDF printing? Why don't you just use OpenOffice.org to export documents to PDF?
[02:48] <tripppy> yeah
[02:48] <sss> anybody knows?
[02:48] <Frogzoo> tripppy: lsb_release -a
[02:49] <onkarshinde> sss: Install chatzilla extensions
[02:49] <boha_> 1 question
[02:49] <xandhy> onkarshinde: sometimes i'd like to print some web pages to pdf and ?
[02:49] <ic56> Trippy: sorry, my mistake. Should be: cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:49] <[swb] > anyone know how/if possible to make a mozilla plugin from mplayer source?
[02:49] <boha_> how can i access my NFTS drive
[02:49] <sss> chatzilla?
[02:49] <onkarshinde> xandhy: Ok. Byt hey everything on that page worked for me on breezy at least
[02:50] <sss> can i find it in the sypnatic?
[02:50] <ic56> boha_: there is a standard script that will configure it for you, if you forgot to do it during the install.  I wrote teh latest version.  Want the URL?
[02:50] <onkarshinde> sss: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/16/
[02:50] <xandhy> onkarshinde: on breezy it's true - on dapper no :(
[02:50] <Yoosah> you can search in synaptic
[02:50] <schalken> how do i stop X from the command line?
[02:50] <boha_> yes pls
[02:50] <gharz> oh my god!!! i was able to print on my magicolor 2300W by building the drivers!!!!!
[02:50] <onkarshinde> schalken: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[02:51] <schalken> onkarshinde: thanks!
[02:51] <ic56> boha_: please note this is a beta, but it's better than the old one.   I'll walk you through it.  http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt
[02:52] <ic56> boha_: point your browser to that URL, save the file onto your disk and tell me in which directory you placed it (eg /home/boha/desktop/diskmounter).  I'll walk you through running it.  I'll appreciate feedback on what it says.
[02:53] <tripppy> i love that diskmounter script.
[02:53] <funkmaster> any1 knows how i can solve this dhcp problem?
[02:54] <ic56> boha_: before we start, give me a quick run down: how many windows partitions?  have you already attempted to fix things by hand?  If so, what have you done so far?
[02:54] <albacker> guys i installed windows and it overwrote the grub boot manager, now i cant got to ubuntu anymore, i think the boot manager was installed in the MBR, how can i enter ubuntu ? if i set the /dev/hda3 [ubuntu partition]  too bootable than i wont boot cos grub is in MBR ! ?
[02:54] <onkarshinde> How can I edit id3 tags in Rhythmbox/
[02:54] <ic56> schalken: pkill X
[02:55] <gharz> guys, what's the effect of MAKE CLEAN?
[02:56] <ic56> !windowsmbr
[02:56] <ubotu> I heard windowsmbr is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:56] <boha_> ic56,  pvt
[02:56] <Warbo> gharz: It clears out any already made files, so you can make from scratch
[02:56] <mziel> Hi! While I'm in another session then default in Gnome, I don't have turn off option or reboot. Only sleeping options, logout, lock and change user. Anyone one hot to enable power off and reboot?
[02:56] <ic56> boha_: sorry, "pvt" = ??
[02:56] <sss> onkarshinde,i can open irc ,i mean other chatrooms
[02:56] <boha_> ic56, private
[02:57] <ic56> boha_: sure.  Huffalump: I'm moving to #ic56
[02:57] <onkarshinde> sss: What other chatrooms? And why do you want to that from Firefox?
[02:57] <LeaChim> albacker, do you have a ubuntu livecd?
[02:57] <Chihork> any help: I cannot get ALSA working with the preemptible low-latency patch.  After compiling my new kernel, I get errors in dmesg, and it seems like my sound card isn't detected anymore, or the IRQ is disabled on it.
[02:58] <gharz> Warbo, i've just build a driver from a .tar.gz file... i ran the commands ./configure , make & make install... then i've just run make clean... does make clean delete everything which i've built?
[02:58] <onkarshinde> gharz: yes
[02:58] <wweasel> Hey guys.  I am having some trouble getting my widescreen resolution to work.  It is listed in the options on screen resolution, but when I select it I get 2 bars on the side, very strange.
[02:58] <onkarshinde> gharz: everything which you have built but not what you have installed
[02:58] <sss> i want to get in a chatroom ,but i can only get in it using ie ,i failed get in using firefox
[02:59] <albacker> LeaChim yeah i have it..
[02:59] <onkarshinde> sss: what chatroom is it?
[02:59] <albacker> LeaChim i have the LIveCD and InstallCD I can enter UBUNTU from livecd and run cfdisk, and make /dev/hda3 bootable but bootmanager is installed in mbr, not in /dev/had3,,
[02:59] <sss> onkarshinde ,a chinese chatroom, www.rongshuxia.com
[02:59] <gharz> onkarshinde, that means the driver that i've just installed is still on my system? only the "temp" files during MAKE were deleted?
[02:59] <gharz> onkarshinde, Warbo :  thanks!!!!!
[02:59] <sss> can u get in using firefox ?
[02:59] <onkarshinde> gharz: yes
[03:00] <Healot> Warbo
[03:00] <LeaChim> albacker, ok, boot into the livecd
[03:00] <gharz> onkarshinde, thanks for the info. greatly appreciated.
[03:00] <LeaChim> albacker, then, you mount your linux partition, and chroot into it, and run grub-install
[03:01] <funkmaster> what could be the reasons, if with the live cd the internet configured via dhcp works, without doing any extra changes, then i do and install from the live cd on the harddrive, still same settings for network cards and dhcp internet, but internet does not work and it does not get the ip assigned anymore, although all settings r correct..
[03:01] <sss> onkarshinde ,would u do me a favor to try to get in using your firefox?
[03:01] <funkmaster> can someone please help me out, i'm going crazy..
[03:01] <LeaChim> albacker, you'll need help with that i suppose? :P boot into the livecd and pm me here on freenode
[03:01] <gharz> onkarshinde, it means it's safe now to delete the .tar.gz file and the directory when i decompressed the .tar.gz?
[03:01] <onkarshinde> sss: I don't understand chinese. So can't try it. I clicked on the english link but it just opened another tab with some chinese text
[03:01] <onkarshinde> gharz: Yes. If you are sure the driver is working
[03:01] <albacker> LeaChim i have only one CD, but i dont need any help, if that works.
[03:01] <Healot> gharz: up to you, if you want to save more disk space
[03:01] <sss> yea ,it's main page
[03:02] <albacker> LeaChim after doing grub-install can you tell me what happens.
[03:02] <spacey> sss: try #ubuntu-zh or #ubuntu-cn
[03:02] <spacey> :)
[03:02] <gharz> onkarshinde, Healot : ok. the printer driver is now working. i can sleep soundly tonight... sighhh....
[03:02] <albacker> LeaChim i have only one PC * [so i cant enter #ubuntu while on LiveCD.. unless i configure wvdial] .
[03:02] <aalya> Someone use Wine for playing Steam (counter-strike) ? ty
[03:02] <sss> there are five chatrooms links on the below
[03:02] <wweasel> Hey guys, I am having some trouble getting my widescreen laptop to the proper widescreen resolution.  I have all the options in my "Screen Resolution" setting, but when I select the proper one, 1280x800 (or any other widescreen resolution), I get a completely messed up top bar and my desktop is a fullscreen with a large bar that repeats what is on the left of the screen (I see my icons on the left and on the right).
[03:02] <onkarshinde> gharz: Make sure you add info to wiki.ubuntu.com. So other users will benefir from it.
[03:02] <LeaChim> albacker, you have to be chrooted first. what it will do is install grub in the mbr so you can boot linux. oh, i forgot, you'll need to add the entry to grub for windows to be able to boot as well
[03:03] <idoru_> hello, what is the correct way for starting wpasupplicant in ubuntu?
[03:03] <albacker> LeaChim how can i chroot ? to be root i just type sudo su, what about chroot ?
[03:03] <schalken> idoru_: whats that?
[03:03] <idoru_> schalken: wpasupplicant is used for wireless networking
[03:03] <LeaChim> albacker, you know how to mount your linux partition?
[03:04] <tmn> How do I add new Locales in dapper?
[03:04] <nine> anyone knows where are the modules of xorg installed ?
[03:04] <albacker> LeaChim i have the windows entry in menu.lst [which is the list of operating systems in /boot/grub] 
[03:04] <tmn> dpkg-reconfigure didn't work... I need to add new locales
[03:04] <albacker> LeaChim of course.
[03:04] <onkarshinde> tmn: System-Administration->Language Support
[03:04] <gharz> onkarshinde, i've just installed the driver for my Konica Minolta Magicolor 2300W laser printer... in which there's no availabe pre-compiled driver and all info were just taken from sourceforge.
[03:04] <LeaChim> then you do chroot /mnt/linuxpartition
[03:04] <tmn> onkarshinde: thanks :)
[03:04] <albacker> LeaChim aha ok..
[03:04] <wweasel> idoru_: if you are having trouble with WPA supplicant, check out this page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179643
[03:04] <schalken> nine: i think its /usr/lib/xorg/modules/
[03:04] <LeaChim> and it means all programs you run from that terminalthink that is now the root filesystem
[03:04] <onkarshinde> gharz: That is what I want to add wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:05] <LeaChim> so when you run grub-install it will use the correct grub.conf and so on
[03:05] <idoru_> wweasel: cool, thanks
[03:05] <wweasel> idoru_: I set up WPA on my laptop yesterday, that told me exactly what to do
[03:05] <albacker> LeaChim if it won't work.. ill follow this : http://www.hezardastan.org/breezy_xp_dualboot/en/gaginstall.html
[03:05] <nine> yep thanks
[03:05] <gharz> onkarshinde, how do i add? should i send the procedures to u? ;)
[03:05] <albacker> thanks LeaChim
[03:05] <LeaChim> albacker, i'd stick with grub if i were you
[03:05] <wweasel> idoru_: (Post #7 has a summary of what you need to do)
[03:05] <schalken> whats that command you use to reconfigure X?
[03:05] <wweasel> idoru_: typo, i meant post 8
[03:05] <albacker> LeaChim i'll try grub first.. :)
[03:05] <LeaChim> albacker, comand: grub-install/ dev/hda i'm guessing
[03:05] <LeaChim> erm
[03:05] <LeaChim> grub-install /dev/hda
[03:06] <LeaChim> presuming that's your hard drive
[03:06] <mziel> Hi! While I'm in another session then default gnome session [ie. xgle session ;-)) ]  I don't have turn off option or reboot. Only sleeping options, logout, lock and change user. Anyone one know how to enable it?
[03:06] <wweasel> Hey guys, I am having some trouble getting my widescreen laptop to the proper widescreen resolution.  I have all the options in my "Screen Resolution" setting, but when I select the proper one, 1280x800 (or any other widescreen resolution), I get a completely messed up top bar and my desktop is a fullscreen with a large bar that repeats what is on the left of the screen (I see my icons on the left and on the right). Anyone able to 
[03:06] <onkarshinde> gharz: No. Wiki is really easy to use. You just need to register and then you can edit pages. Add to some approriate page or create your own
[03:06] <gharz> onkarshinde, ok. thanks for the info.
[03:06] <albacker> LeaChim thanks a lot. im going to try it.
[03:06] <huahua> I' m italian hellooooooooo...!!!
[03:06] <albacker> bye
[03:06] <huahua> who is u??
[03:06] <LeaChim> albacker, ok
[03:06] <huahua> no...
[03:06] <onkarshinde> huahua: Indian
[03:06] <schalken> huahua: hi! im australian!
[03:07] <huahua> huahauaaaa...
[03:07] <nine> anyone can send me an xorg.conf ?
[03:07] <huahua> I'm a problem...
[03:07] <onkarshinde> gharz: Check this page. Eidt and section for your printer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/KonicaMinolta?highlight=%28printer%29
[03:07] <wweasel> Hey guys, I am having some trouble getting my widescreen laptop to the proper widescreen resolution.  I have all the options in my "Screen Resolution" setting, but when I select the proper one, 1280x800 (or any other widescreen resolution), I get a completely messed up top bar and my desktop is a fullscreen with a large bar that repeats what is on the left of the screen (I see my icons on the left and on the right).
[03:07] <nine> anyone knows where i can finf an xorg.con ... an default
[03:08] <huahua> whith gaim internet messenger...
[03:08] <wweasel> nine, I have a default. (i just clean installed and haven't played with it)
[03:08] <huahua> where is the avatar???
[03:08] <nine> wwease : that's cool
[03:08] <gharz> onkarshinde, i've seen that earlier. let me check the site on how to add to it. thanks.
[03:08] <nine> how you can send me ???
[03:08] <wweasel> nine, but I am also new to this. tell me where it is
[03:08] <pradeep> huahua, yahoo avatars?
[03:08] <onkarshinde> huahua: It is multi protocol messenger using which you can connect to Yahoo, Hotmail, MSN, AIM, ICR, GTalk and lot more
[03:08] <huahua> yes
[03:08] <schalken> huahua: if the user has one, its normally to the left of the textbox you type in
[03:08] <wweasel> nine, i'll paste it into pastebin
[03:08] <nine> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:08] <sss> huahua
[03:09] <DarkRavenMixage> someone knowns how to play amr stream?
[03:09] <huahua> nono gaim internet messenger with ubuntu
[03:09] <nine> wweasel : where is that ?
[03:09] <wweasel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:09] <onkarshinde> DarkRavenMixage: Do you own a Sony Ericsson phone?
[03:09] <sss> huahua ,can u help me
[03:09] <dungodung> After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-base' can not be found anymore.
[03:09] <dungodung> This indicates a serious error, please report this as a bug.
[03:09] <pradeep> huahua, if you are talking about the yahoo animated avatars .. no you cant see them on gaim
[03:09] <DarkRavenMixage> onkarshinde i have a nokia phone i want to play 3gp files
[03:09] <dungodung> I'm reporting 8)
[03:09] <DarkRavenMixage> onkarshinde i can play the video but now the audio
[03:09] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[03:10] <huahua> whith msn
[03:10] <schalken> whats the command to reconfigure x? its like like dpkg -reconfigure xorg or something like that?
[03:10] <pradeep> hi Inf3ctedFx
[03:10] <DarkRavenMixage> onkarshinde *not
[03:10] <onkarshinde> DarkRavenMixage: xine should play 3gp
[03:10] <huahua> where is the insert avatar???
[03:10] <Inf3ctedFx> does anybody knows what "try to boot with noapic" means?
[03:10] <huahua> help me!!!
[03:10] <nine> wweasel : have you post it ?
[03:10] <schalken> huahua: for MSN, you specify it in account settings.
[03:10] <onkarshinde> schalken: It is 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:10] <wweasel> nine, yes. but looking over it, i believe it is configured for my system
[03:11] <BlueEagle> inf3ctedfx: it means that you pass noapic to the kernel when you boot.
[03:11] <nine> wweasel : what is your system
[03:11] <wweasel> nine, ubuntu automatically configures xorg according to what you need.
[03:11] <LeaChim> schalken, dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg
[03:11] <DarkRavenMixage> onkarshinde i have gstream :(
[03:11] <wweasel> nine, an emachines laptop
[03:11] <huahua> eeh..?? have you gain internet messenger??
[03:11] <schalken> onkarshinde: ah! thank you!
[03:11] <onkarshinde> Inf3ctedFx: You have to pass argument 'noapic' to kernel at booting
[03:11] <DarkRavenMixage> onkarshinde i can play 3gp, but the audio of 3gp is amr...
[03:11] <DarkRavenMixage> and i can' play it
[03:11] <nine> wweasel : yes but mine have an problem
[03:11] <wweasel> nine, go look at it at the pastebin. it contains references to my mouse and to my ati graphics card.
[03:11] <nine> wweasel : my is a laptop
[03:12] <Inf3ctedFx> ok I know that onkarshinde  but what "noapic" means?
[03:12] <wweasel> nine, yes? how did you mess it up. i know mine won't work for oyu.
[03:12] <BlueEagle> inf3ctedfx: it means that it will not use apic (ie. no apic)
[03:12] <nine> wweasel : with automatix ...
[03:12] <onkarshinde> DarkRavenMixage: Have you installed w32codecs?
[03:12] <nine> wweasel : i think, now it don't load modules
[03:12] <Inf3ctedFx> ok but apic menas?? there is something to do with the internet connection, wireless conection or something like that?
[03:13] <DarkRavenMixage> onkarshinde yes
[03:13] <chicken-man> Hi, Does anyone know a tool to display my refresh rate, I'm using IceWM at the moment
[03:13] <onkarshinde> DarkRavenMixage: If you have, then install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll. This will use w32codecs in totem or ehythmbox
[03:13] <LoveAndSex> hello i have always use gaim i have alwways use gaim to use msn service but in the last 2 days my gaim connetcion (while chatting) fails!!(i get disconnected!!) though my router is always connected
[03:13] <BlueEagle> inf3ctedfx: http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?Acronym=APIC&p=dict
[03:14] <wweasel> nine: i really am just as much of a newbie as you are, i can't really help you. all i know is that in the future, it's a good idea to backup system files like that to something like xorg_backup or xorg_default before changing them.
[03:14] <BlueEagle> inf3ctedfx: "Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller"
[03:14] <DarkRavenMixage> onkarshinde no way to play under mplayer?
[03:14] <onkarshinde> Inf3ctedFx: 'noapic' has nothing to do with internet connection, AFAIK
[03:14] <huahua> ci sono italiani???
[03:14] <wweasel> ey guys, I am having some trouble getting my widescreen laptop to the proper widescreen resolution.  I have all the options in my "Screen Resolution" setting, but when I select the proper one, 1280x800 (or any other widescreen resolution), I get a completely messed up top bar and my desktop is a fullscreen with a large bar that repeats what is on the left of the screen (I see my icons on the left and on the right).
[03:14] <chicken-man> Does anyone know a tool to display my refresh rate, I'm using IceWM at the moment
[03:14] <onkarshinde> DarkRavenMixage: mplayer should play almost any format. It doesn't use GStreamer.
[03:14] <huahua> ITALIANI???
[03:14] <nine> wweasel : i reme,ber that ... after put it in this state :)
[03:15] <huahua> c' qlcn italiano??
[03:15] <Inf3ctedFx> oohh oks. because b4 here on ubuntu, when I press "Fn+F2 which is the wirelss conection, it will turn off my wilress conection
[03:15] <Inf3ctedFx> but now it doesnt do anything
[03:15] <DarkRavenMixage> onkarshinde mplayer plays all but not amr... llol
[03:15] <senjin> is there any way to read your ntfs disk after you have removed windows?
[03:15] <nine> wweasel : you have sure that your display can have that resolution ?
[03:15] <chicken-man> Does anyone know a tool to display my refresh rate, I'm using IceWM at the moment
[03:15] <BlueEagle> senjin: Sure. Linux can read (but not write) ntfs just fine.
[03:15] <wweasel> nine, that's my standard resolution in windows.
[03:16] <huahua> 1 information??
[03:16] <nine> wweasel : in your xorg.conf you only have 1024x768
[03:16] <BlueEagle> !it
[03:16] <LoveAndSex> hello i have always use gaim i have alwways use gaim to use msn service but in the last 2 days my gaim connetcion (while chatting) fails!!(i get disconnected!!) though my router is always connected
[03:16] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:16] <Crescendo> How to install PHP using apt-get...?
[03:16] <LoveAndSex> help!!
[03:16] <senjin> i get i warning that i dont have proper aouthority
[03:16] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell huahua about it
[03:16] <wweasel> chicken-man, go to System, Preferences, Screen Resolution
[03:16] <nine> wweasel : you have to search more resolutions for your screen
[03:17] <chicken-man> wweasel, No Gnome installed :-P
[03:17] <LoveAndSex> help!!
[03:17] <wweasel> nine: I assume that when I change it in system preferences, it changes it in xorg.
[03:17] <LoveAndSex> help!!
[03:17] <LoveAndSex> help!!
[03:17] <LoveAndSex> help!!
[03:17] <LoveAndSex> hello i have always use gaim i have alwways use gaim to use msn service but in the last 2 days my gaim connetcion (while chatting) fails!!(i get disconnected!!) though my router is always connected
[03:17] <Inf3ctedFx> LoveAndSex:  check the ports
[03:17] <nine> wweasel : try it, change in your preferences an see if your xorg have changed
[03:17] <wweasel> LoveAndSex: you haven't given us anything really to work on. does your internet connection drop out too?
[03:17] <huahua> eeh...I'm a problem with gain internet messenger...
[03:18] <AK7> I'm trying to add a printer to CUPS, and it recognizes the printer and everything... except it asks for a user/pw and I don't know what to put in there.
[03:18] <AK7> I've done it once before on another computer but I don't remember what I did :|
[03:18] <LoveAndSex> WebMaven:  Inf3ctedFx  my interenet doesnt drop off!
[03:18] <wweasel> AK7: try your username and password?
[03:18] <BlueEagle> ak7: are you using http://localhost:631 ?
[03:18] <Crescendo> How to install PHP using apt-get...?
[03:18] <AK7> wweasel: yeah
[03:19] <Inf3ctedFx> LoveAndSex:  it happend to e b4, my internet wont drop of just the GAIM
[03:19] <AK7> blueEagle: yes
[03:19] <BlueEagle> ak7: I recomend using gnome-cups-manager to manage printers. To use the web interface you need to set a root password afaik.
[03:19] <Inf3ctedFx> check the port fordwarding configuration in ur router
[03:19] <AK7> Okay...
[03:19] <LoveAndSex> Inf3ctedFx:  i don understand!
[03:20] <Inf3ctedFx> which router do u have LoveAndSex
[03:20] <Inf3ctedFx> linksys? d-link?
[03:20] <LoveAndSex> netgear
[03:20] <Inf3ctedFx> ppuufff
[03:20] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[03:20] <LoveAndSex> but gaim has always worked well
[03:20] <LoveAndSex> !!
[03:20] <ubotu> LoveAndSex: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:20] <AK7> thanx blue, its workin :)
[03:20] <Inf3ctedFx> u have to go insisde ur router typing 192.168.1.1
[03:20] <LoveAndSex> only the last two days it gives problems
[03:20] <LoveAndSex> !!
[03:20] <LoveAndSex> which port should forward
[03:20] <LoveAndSex> ?
[03:21] <wweasel> Guys, I am having alot of trouble with my widescreen resolution. Could someone help me?
[03:21] <brt> hello
[03:21] <hayden> is there any easy way of converting ubuntu 5.10 with xserver and xfce4 to just the barebones, no gui, no programs using a gui etc ?
[03:21] <LoveAndSex> in
[03:21] <LoveAndSex> Inf3ctedFx:
[03:21] <LoveAndSex> ?
[03:21] <nine> wweasel : you have seen if you changes in preferences change the xorg.conf
[03:21] <chicken-man> Does anyone know a tool that can display my current refresh rate, I don't have gnome
[03:22] <wweasel> nine, i can't. when i change it my computer is unuseable.
[03:22] <aalya_> Someone use Wine for playing Steam (counter-strike) ? ty
[03:22] <MetaMorfoziS> !easysource
[03:22] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:22] <Huffalump> woozle:  http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt
[03:22] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: Haven't you got that in your monitor adjustment menu (buildt into the monitor, not dependant on the os or any other software)?
[03:23] <nine> wweasel : what is the resolution
[03:23] <chicken-man> aalya_, If you want to play windows games and use Linux then you should dual boot
[03:23] <MetaMorfoziS> !easysource
[03:23] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:23] <MetaMorfoziS> hopp sy
[03:23] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, errrm ?
[03:23] <wweasel> nine: standard is 1024x768
[03:23] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, I don't think so
[03:23] <nine> wweasel : what you want to put
[03:23] <steveire> choosing to install tetex-base with aptitude or with synaptic gives different results. Synaptic only wants to install two packages, but aptitude wants to install many more. They seem to be perl libraries...
[03:23] <wweasel> nine: 1280x800.
[03:24] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: On my monitor I have got a menu button. WHen I press it I can se my refresh rate
[03:24] <steveire> Is this normal behaviour?
[03:24] <bigfoot1> guys, i'm on Xubuntu. Applications menu doesn't work anymore. help
[03:24] <wweasel> Hey guys, I am having some trouble getting my widescreen laptop to the proper widescreen resolution.  I have all the options in my "Screen Resolution" setting, but when I select the proper one, 1280x800 (or any other widescreen resolution), I get a completely messed up top bar and my desktop is a fullscreen with a large bar that repeats what is on the left of the screen (I see my icons on the left and on the right).
[03:24] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, Well mine shows, V:70.2hz H: 31.5khz at the moment
[03:25] <nine> wweasel : user.skynet.be/thomasvst/linux-on-laptop/
[03:25] <aalya_> chicken-man: i want to play on ubuntu, i install stam, can launch, but the game cant launch....
[03:25] <nine> wweasel : part of resolution
[03:25] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, But if I put that in xorg.conf all get's messed up
[03:25] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: Then your refresh rate is 70hz
[03:25] <Kibou> steveire: aptitude installs all recommended packages by default
[03:25] <steveire> It seems like wierd behaviour to me.
[03:25] <chicken-man> aalya_, Windows and Linux do not mix too well
[03:26] <sss> anyone can help me about open the chatroom using firefox?
[03:26] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, Windows says 75hz at 1280x1024
[03:26] <steveire> Is that a feature I can turn off?
[03:26] <Kibou> yes
[03:26] <wweasel> nine, that link doesn't work for me.
[03:26] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: You don't need to specify your refresh rate unless you're unhappy with the one you get. My monitor section reads: Section "Monitor" Option "DPMS" EndSection
[03:27] <aalya_> chicken-man: but it's possible to play normaly .. and i want that ^^
[03:27] <nine> wwasel : http://users.skynet.be/thomasvst/linux-on-laptop/
[03:27] <root_> :)
[03:27] <sss> i just wanna know if firefox can open it ,
[03:27] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, My monitor get's the refresh rates from the software, Xorg did not auto configure right I think
[03:27] <sss> root,u can speak chinese?
[03:27] <OrTigaS> how to distri upgrade
[03:28] <Huh1> I know that you'll tell me I should use firefox instead, but I want to use opera. ok that said, on the opera homepage I can download linux versions, however there isn't a dapper version yet, last one is breezy. So what will happen/what can go wrong if I install the breezy opera version on my dapper?
[03:28] <steveire> thanks Kibou. I had a quick look in options
[03:28] <Kibou> no prob
[03:28] <wweasel> Huh1: If you want, I know Automatix can install Opera for you.
[03:28] <wweasel> nine: those instructions are nice, but don't apply to my laptop.
[03:28] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, I want to know what rates I need to put in xorg.conf yo get 75hz
[03:29] <nine> wweasel : have you seen the page ? please see if you have this file /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libkbd.so
[03:29] <nine> wweasel : why not ?
[03:29] <Huh1> automatix is what?some package manager?
[03:29] <sss> anyone help me?
[03:29] <jbroome> !automatix
[03:29] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:29] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: If you don't use DPMS (ie your gfx card and/or monitor does not support it) a default range of 43-72 is used. To specify your own range use VertRefresh low-high in the monitor section. Please consult your monitor manual for the range supported by your monitor.
[03:30] <wweasel> lol, "it may break your system."
[03:30] <neutrinomass> ubotu tell OrTigaS about upgrade
[03:30] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: You can also use descrete values like 60,72,75 instead of a range.
[03:30] <aalya_> Someone use Wine for playing Steam (counter-strike) ? ty
[03:30] <nine> it's true ... it may break your system
[03:30] <nine> it broke mine
[03:31] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, I got no manual, it's a generic monitor as well, at the moment I got h=30-65, v=50-75
[03:31] <Huh1> wweasel:  so what are you suggesting?
[03:31] <chicken-man> aalya_, Playing any windows game is Linux is far slower
[03:32] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: Have you tried googling the various numbers found on the label on your monitor?
[03:32] <Luke> I'm trying to compile some code I'm working on but the configure fails saying I dont have mono but mono --version says: Mono JIT compiler version 1.1.13.6... Anyone know how to get pkg-config to see mono?
[03:32] <wweasel> Huh1: well, Automatix worked great for me to automatically install a bunch of stuff. never done it for opera, i'm addicted to my firefox extensions.
[03:32] <Inf3ctedFx> hey guys another question, what is the command on apt to use if I want to search for some package?
[03:32] <boricua> i dont find sun java that i should according to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:32] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, No but thanks for the idea, I forgot about doing that :-D
[03:32] <neutrinomass> Luke: What code? Are you sure it isn't in the repositories ?
[03:32] <nine> apt-cache seach <name of package>
[03:32] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, I'll go take a look now
[03:32] <nine> apt-cache search <name of package>
[03:32] <Inf3ctedFx> thx nine
[03:33] <kbrooks> wweasel: NO software is bug free
[03:33] <linuxmonkey> Hey guys I just installed ubuntu on my server thats sitting next to me and configures NFS, when i transfer data to it from my other box I only get 300KB/s over a 100mbit network, anyone know why?
[03:33] <Woozle> ic56: Thanks a million.  You're a gentleman and a scholar.
[03:33] <Luke> neutrinomass: i dont know what you mean
[03:34] <nine> wweasek : the best way to resolve your problem is google
[03:34] <wweasel> kbrooks: i never said it was. where did you get that idea?
[03:34] <nine> wweasel : the best way to resolve your problem is google
[03:34] <Fr0Gs> hey all im running warty hog 4.10 i plugged in my NTFS drive but i dont know if its hda or what it is so i can't mount it :S
[03:34] <Fr0Gs> how do i find out wat it is
[03:34] <nine> wweasel : put you laptop ubunut and wide resolution
[03:34] <OrTigaS`> how can i dist upgrade
[03:34] <neutrinomass> Luke: Sorry, I misunderstood your question :(
[03:35] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone else here have a problem with gxine/xine closing as soon as it opens?  I think it's related to my using network manager b/c it throws some sort of error having to do with /etc/network/interfaces
[03:35] <FunnyLookinHat> Luke, you rox0r!
[03:35] <wild> is possible to install ubuntu on sata? :(
[03:35] <wweasel> nine: doing that, finding some stuff. i am kind of unhappy, my resolution and my touchpad were recognized fine before dapper.
[03:35] <imc_> So i installed vmware player and now hve to install windows - I have the windows iso on my hard drive - how can I tell vmwareplayer to play it?
[03:35] <wild> pls help me
[03:35] <linuxmonkey> anyone know why my transfer over a 100mbit direct connection that im only getting 300KB/s over NFS?
[03:35] <nine> wweasel : somethimes upgrades apear to be downgrades
[03:36] <OrTigaS`> how to upgrade to 6.06?
[03:36] <BlueEagle> imc_: You can mount it using the loopback interface. hint: mount -o loop
[03:36] <neutrinomass> Luke: I'm not familiar with Mono, but maybe you need mono-devel ?
[03:36] <FunnyLookinHat> linuxboy, that depends on the speeds and cpu loads of both computers...
[03:36] <imc_> Thanks BlueEagle
[03:36] <FunnyLookinHat> !dapperupgrdae
[03:36] <ubotu> FunnyLookinHat: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:36] <FunnyLookinHat> !dapperupgrade
[03:36] <ubotu> FunnyLookinHat: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:36] <MetaMorfoziS> linuxboy: not because you have 100mb/sec conenction with your mode?
[03:36] <MetaMorfoziS> modem
[03:36] <BlueEagle> imc_: Not sure if that's what you want to do tho. Check the wmware manual.
[03:36] <FunnyLookinHat> !upgrade
[03:36] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[03:36] <Fr0Gs> hey all im running warty hog 4.10 i plugged in my NTFS drive but i dont know if its hda or what it is so i can't mount it :S how do i find out what it is!!!!
[03:36] <MetaMorfoziS> linuxmonkey: not linuxboy
[03:36] <imc_> man vmware-player
[03:36] <MetaMorfoziS> linuxmonkey: not because you have 100mb/sec conenction with your mode?
[03:36] <imc_> or on the vmware site, BlueEagle?
[03:36] <BlueEagle> imc_: But I would guess you would mount it on the directory that wmware looks for a cd on.
[03:36] <wweasel> nine: no, other than the stuff it broke on my laptop, i am very happy. configuring my wireless was MUCH easier. wpa supplicant installed and everything.
[03:37] <Luke> neutrinomass: good thinking
[03:37] <Fr0Gs> d/w
[03:37] <BlueEagle> imc_: I would assume that the wmware site is a good place to look for the manual for wmware, yes.
[03:37] <neutrinomass> Fr0Gs: To begin with, Warty is quite old and unsupported. Maybe System->Administration->Disks ?
[03:37] <imc_> Right, That was what I was wondering - which is that BlueEagle?
[03:37] <Luke> neutrinomass: i'll try that
[03:37] <imc_> Heh!
[03:37] <wweasel> nine: I can't find anyone with the same problem that I have.
[03:37] <linuxmonkey> what MetaMorfoziS.
[03:37] <neutrinomass> Luke: If that fails, you might try "sudo apt-get build-dep f-spot" that will drag in build deps for mono (and a bunch of other stuff I guess )
[03:37] <h3sp4wn> Would using gksudo "update-manager -d" upgrade to eft now ? (now the repos are open - that doesn't seem a good idea to still be there - if so )
[03:37] <boricua> where in the filesystem can i see list of all packages installed
[03:38] <linuxmonkey> i installed ubuntu on my server and now I get slow speeds, I had suse before and it was blazin fast
[03:38] <neutrinomass> h3sp4wn: I think so ... But AFAIK upgrading to eft is not a good idea as of now because lots of stuff will break :-/
[03:38] <BlueEagle> linuxmonkey: what is slow?
[03:38] <boricua> linuxmonkey: u have the option to go back to suse
[03:38] <rayion> C' qualche italiano?
[03:38] <BlueEagle> linuxmonkey: is it hdd access? desktop refresh?
[03:38] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell rayion about it
[03:38] <jbroome> !it
[03:38] <linuxmonkey> BlueEagle: transfer of files through NFS
[03:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:38] <wweasel> Guys, I have a problem with my widescreen. All the guides on the internet explain how to fix it if you don't have the correct option. I do have all the correct options in System > Preferences > Screen Resolution, but when I choose a widescreen one it splits my desktop, so i have a fullscreen resolution and a bar on the side repeated what i have on the left.
[03:38] <neutrinomass> h3sp4wn: ubuntu+1 has opened again though, you might want to ask there
[03:39] <neutrinomass> h3sp4wn: n/m, you're already there ...
[03:39] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomass: Exactly no I was just thinking that !upgrade should be changed
[03:39] <BlueEagle> linuxmonkey: Have you got the same parameters set in ubuntu as you had in slack? There are a few buffering options related to NFS that can seriously impact speeds.
[03:39] <joachim-n> I've got dependecy problems. something about jade and tetex
[03:40] <gavagai> i did an apt-get cache search for games and there are so many.  any recommendations for fun ones that aren't in the default install?
[03:40] <BlueEagle> where did linuxmonkey go?
[03:40] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomass: I am not willing to try it but someone may not read !upgrade properly and blindly run the command
[03:40] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, It's a Proview MA-782KC but thats all about I can find out about it
[03:41] <neutrinomass> h3sp4wn: I guess you're right... I'm not sure how it can be changed though ...
[03:41] <wweasel> Guys, I have been trying to get help with my widescreen problem for a half hour. Does anyone know how to help me?
[03:41] <mpmc> Anyone find that when having a PCI GFX card Ubuntu fails to notice it?
[03:41] <joachim-n> what does the second colum,n of user names in ls -l mean?
[03:42] <Azertyuuu> #join /ubuntu-nl
[03:42] <neutrinomass> wweasel: It's usually not that people choose to ignore you, but that nobody feels they know enough to help you :) You can try the forums as well where your chances are maybe better ...
[03:42] <echostorm> hey guys, is there someway to change the permissions of all files ina directory at once?
[03:42] <Scorpmoon> Azerty, quit drinking :)
[03:42] <gavagai> chicken-man, chmod *
[03:42] <gavagai> err, echostorm
[03:43] <LeaChim> joachim-n, first is the owner, second is the group
[03:43] <joachim-n> tx
[03:43] <chicken-man> gavagai, What ?
[03:43] <echostorm> lol would the proper command (this folder beinf azureus) be chmod echostorm:echostorm /opt/azureus ?
[03:43] <mpmc> Ubuntu needs to support, PCI GFX cards better.. <_<
[03:44] <echostorm> i know its close but
[03:44] <echostorm> not quite right?
[03:44] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: is it a flat screen?
[03:44] <LeaChim> echostorm, use chown for ownership
[03:44] <gavagai> echostorm, you want to change the group or the read/write/execute permissions?
[03:44] <menisk> whats a good dos emulator
[03:44] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, Yep
[03:44] <LeaChim> echostorm, chmod is only the permissions
[03:44] <neutrinomass> mpmc: Have you filed a bug report against your card ? (or confirmed one, if one exists ? )
[03:44] <gavagai> group and permissions are diff. things
[03:44] <gavagai> group/owner i mean
[03:45] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: Is it on a DVI connector or the old VGA connector?
[03:45] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, errrrm :-/
[03:45] <echostorm> i want to change group and all permisions
[03:45] <menisk> what is a good dos emulator
[03:46] <mpmc> neutrinomass, erm.. I had to edit the Xconf via the command line so it sees the card....
[03:46] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: Does the connector from the monitor to your graphics card have a uniform group of pins or are the pins grouped in two groups?
[03:46] <echostorm> basically, the program cant update because it gets a permission denied error, aand i look at it, all files are owned by root
[03:47] <BlueEagle> echostorm: sudo chown user:group filename
[03:47] <BlueEagle> echostorm: to chown more files use the * wildcard
[03:47] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, two groups I think
[03:47] <neutrinomass> mpmc: That's what I mean. Open a bug against Xorg. If developers don't know about the issues you've been having, how will they fix them :)
[03:47] <echostorm> ahh thanx :)
[03:47] <mpmc> neutrinomass, Any idea how I can ask if they'd put some sort of option to setup GFX..?
[03:47] <BlueEagle> echostorm: to chown recursively use -R like: sudo chown -R user:group /path/to/files/*
[03:48] <mpmc> neutrinomass, In the install?
[03:48] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: have you tried using DPMS instead of specifying the refhresh rate manually?
[03:48] <echostorm> ok
[03:48] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, Whats DPMS and how do I use it ?
[03:48] <echostorm> thanx BlueEagle
[03:49] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: Section "Monitor" Option "DPMS" EndSection
[03:49] <neutrinomass> mpmc: Again, bug report. Add it as a wishlist. But IMVHO it's better to file a bug report saying "my card wasn't autodetected correctly" instead of "include the ability to configure the card, because mine wasn't autodetected correctly". Things should be fixed the right way. You might want to attach the files listed on step 5 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration
[03:49] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: that's what I use for my monitors. They give maximum refresh on both my LDC and CRT monitor.
[03:49] <joachim-n> i don't really get groups. I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_identifier_%28Unix%29 but it doesn't help
[03:49] <joachim-n> it talks about a number, but I see my user name in the group column
[03:49] <lukaswayne9> When i run $ locale, my it complains about:   locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory        What can I do to fix this?
[03:50] <Matthewv> joachim-n, every group has an associated number
[03:50] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, Thats what I see and the refresh rates are just below the Option "DPMS"
[03:50] <Matthewv> joachim-n, and by default, every user is created with their own group, which has the same name as their user name
[03:50] <joachim-n> right. but Im confused by a group that is the same as me
[03:50] <joachim-n> ah
[03:50] <gavagai> chown/chmod -R is very useful but it's good to think twice before you hit enter.  :)
[03:51] <gavagai> i know i've made some errors with that one anyway!
[03:51] <joachim-n> how can a file belong to me, yet be in root group?
[03:51] <Matthewv> joachim-n, where is the file?
[03:51] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here good with using dpkg, dpkg reports that I have a package not fully removed or installed, how can I locate and remove this package?
[03:51] <gavagai> joachim-n, usernames and groupnames don't actually mean anything, they are all numbers
[03:52] <Concord_Dawn> Anyone got a second to help me with a PHP question?
[03:52] <joachim-n> in my home directory, but it's a folder I made for mounting an NT drive
[03:52] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: Hang on. DPMS shouldn't have anything to do with it tbh. :/
[03:52] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: "sudo dpkg -r packagename"
[03:52] <mpmc> neutrinomass, The wiki has no info on Ubuntu 6.06
[03:52] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: My bad.
[03:52] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, hehe :-P
[03:52] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: yes.... but I need to locate the package first.....
[03:53] <Matthewv> joachim-n, then its probably reflecting the permissions of the original file on the NT drive
[03:53] <meherenOS-X> anyone know of a Os X emulator for ubuntu/debian?
[03:53] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: Is the package actually broken (crashes during install) or just not fully installed yet?
[03:53] <joachim-n> it's not mounted right now
[03:53] <echostorm> BluEagle that did it, azureus works perfect now thanx.
[03:53] <Warbo> meherenOS-X: PearPC
[03:53] <BenPA> can anyone here help me with getting an update to clamav from version 0.78.1 to 0.88.2 ... I tried the help but don't understand it
[03:53] <neutrinomass> mpmc: Since you're problem has been solved, you don't really need the info on how to get the card working. I just pointed you there because it has the list of files that are neccessary to file a good X bug report.
[03:53] <meherenOS-X> Warbo, thx
[03:53] <gavagai> you can also just run OSX on linux itself
[03:53] <joachim-n> I can fix it, I'm just baffled as to how it can belong to me, but still be in root group -- isn't that a contradiction?
[03:53] <Hajuu> Hey does anyone know anything about cedega? How do I run something thats already installed, but wasnt installed through cedega? I used to be able to just run it like wine but with the latest versions it seems not?
[03:53] <ehj20> Hi, does dapper install well on a macbook, with all the hardware working politely??
[03:53] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: I don't know, if I knew which package it was I'd know.... do you know how I can locate it?
[03:53] <echostorm> incidently, anyone notice the latest official buil of azureus is broken? using the beta here.
[03:53] <meherenOS-X> Warbo, and how would i install? apt-get
[03:53] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: Out of curiosity, why not pastebin.com ?
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> ehj20: You need elilo to boot
[03:54] <BlueEagle> chicken-man: did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigur xserver-xorg
[03:54] <BlueEagle> ?
[03:54] <mpmc> neutrinomass, Okay, I'kk just add a Wiki entry for others
[03:54] <BlueEagle> dpkg-reconfigure*
[03:54] <Warbo> meherenOS-X: Yes (PearPC is a PowerPC emulator, so can only run PowerPC MacOSX)
[03:54] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: i'm not sure...it seems that we actually own that domain or something
[03:54] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, yep I had to install it in the first place
[03:55] <ehj20> h3sp4wn: thank you. Does wifi work out of the box, as far as you know?
[03:55] <gavagai> meherenOS-X, you may also want to google 'mac on linux'
[03:55] <chicken-man> BlueEagle, I'm running on a Debian base system ;-) it don't auto configure
[03:55] <Concord_Dawn> ehj20: It's all dependant on your manufacturer.
[03:55] <meherenOS-X> Warbo: ... So i can acually install PPC Panther on like my Dell 8200?
[03:55] <kbrooks> everyone here.
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> ehj20: I don't know - all I know is it cannot boot without elilo
[03:55] <Concord_Dawn> If your manufacturer makes a driver for Linux, then it will work.
[03:55] <BenPA> can anyone here help me with getting an update to clamav from version 0.78.1 to 0.88.2 ... I tried the help but don't understand it
[03:55] <kbrooks> here's a uestion
[03:55] <kbrooks> everyone here.
[03:55] <kbrooks> here's a uestion
[03:55] <echostorm> ok heres a tougher one. I have a windows2000 partition (ntfs) that i need for work. Using ubuntuforums, i was able to get it mounted, however it is readonly and useless to me for what i need. any way to change this?
[03:55] <Matthewv> joachim-n, I think thats because a file can belong to a certain user (changed with chown) and to a certain group (changed with chgrp) and these do not have to be the same... permissions on the file are set individually for the user, group, and everyone else
[03:55] <Concord_Dawn> Else, you need to tinker with some wrappers.
[03:55] <kbrooks> the question is...
[03:55] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: Ok, thanks :)
[03:55] <pianoboy3333> Anyone good with dpkg here?
[03:55] <Concord_Dawn> echostorm: Linux does not write reliably to NTFS drives.
[03:56] <Concord_Dawn> It can break your disk.
[03:56] <meherenOS-X> gavagai, yes but that install mac doesn't it?
[03:56] <ehj20> Concord_Dawn: any idea about the macbooks?
[03:56] <chicken-man> echostorm, You can only read NTFS, make a FAT32 partition
[03:56] <meherenOS-X> pianoboy3333, im sorta familiar whats ur prob?
[03:56] <Concord_Dawn> ehj20: It should work.
[03:56] <Matthewv> pianoboy3333, just ask ur question and find out
[03:56] <neutrinomass> echostorm: It's a good idea not to write on NTFS partitions, it's quite experimental. You might want to set up a FAT partition to share between the two OS ... Or alternatively, there's some program for Windows that allows you to read/write ext2 partitions....
[03:56] <kbrooks> is it a bad idea to have a gksudo prompt open up on each and every start up of EasyUbuntu?
[03:56] <ehj20> h3sp4wn: okay, cheers
[03:56] <sparkleytone> if you want to write to ntfs, you should really use captive
[03:57] <pianoboy3333> meherenOS-X: Matthewv: Anyone here good with using dpkg, dpkg reports that I have a package not fully removed or installed, how can I locate using some sort of dpkg filter and remove it?
[03:57] <echostorm> crap. should I change it to a fat32? I need win2k on here, I just dont want to run it except when i get the specifc programs from work (they dont work properly with vmware, serial port issues)
[03:57] <Matthewv> kbrooks, why not? update-manager does...
[03:57] <Concord_Dawn> echostorm: If you're trying to recover files off of your NTFS drive, the best way to do it is to make a Fat32 partition and copy everything off of the NTFS drive.
[03:57] <meherenOS-X> sudo dpkgt --configure -a
[03:57] <meherenOS-X> dpkg
[03:57] <sparkleytone> echostorm: use fat32
[03:57] <meherenOS-X> sry
[03:57] <echostorm> ok
[03:57] <meherenOS-X> not dpkgt
[03:57] <echostorm> Il reinstall windows with a fat32 partition
[03:57] <Concord_Dawn> echostorm: NTFS is better if you're using a Windows NT only environment.
[03:58] <Concord_Dawn> Unfortunately, it's proprietary to Windows and is a massive pain if working with any other operating systems.
[03:58] <pianoboy3333> meherenOS-X: yes... I have this bug currently on my system: https://launchpad.net/bugs/46530
[03:58] <kbrooks> Matthewv: well
[03:58] <echostorm> yeah, im used to ntfs... been a long tim since i used fat32
[03:58] <kbrooks> Matthewv: people can copy and redistribute easyubuntu
[03:58] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: OK, do this "dpkg -l | grep iF"
[03:58] <sparkleytone> there's not really anything different about ntfs functionally...unless you use encryption
[03:59] <meherenOS-X> pianoboy3333, just a sec i don't have any browsers open
[03:59] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: ok, what did that do?
[03:59] <Matthewv> kbrooks, what happens if someone runs easyubuntu on kubuntu?
[03:59] <kbrooks> Matthewv: so there is a chance that a person will redistribute easyubuntu with malicious code in it
[03:59] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: Did anything come up?
[03:59] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: oh, that was a grep command, no it didn't return anythin
[03:59] <myworld122> hi guys... i was just wondering do we need antivirus n firewall for ubuntu?
[03:59] <BenPA> can anyone here help me with getting an update to clamav from version 0.78.1 to 0.88.2 ... I tried the help but don't understand it ... The ClamAV forum sent me here
[04:00] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: Hmmm. How about "dpkg -l | grep iU"
[04:00] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: yes
[04:00] <meherenOS-X> pianoboy3333, beyond me :P
[04:00] <gavagai> myworld122, antivirus, no
[04:00] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: What came up?
[04:00] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: python-subversion
[04:00] <pianoboy3333> ah, ok
[04:00] <pianoboy3333> I think I'll be ok once I remove that
[04:00] <myworld122> gavagai: where can i get a decent firewall?
[04:00] <rickard> I'm having some problems with apache2 and dapper... The daemons don't seem to start... apache seems to work fine, but not apache2.... any suggestions?
[04:00] <Matthewv> kbrooks, oh i see.... but running it the current way does exactly the same, doesn't it... running 'sudo python easyubuntu.py' allows any malicious code to be executed anyway
[04:01] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: That is the broken one the (if it has "iU" as it's status (normally it is "ii"))
[04:01] <echostorm> bah time to boot up partition magic cya later guys thanx for the advice
[04:01] <gavagai> myworld122, i just switched from another linux to ubuntu so i'm not sure what people here recommend, but for a GUI interface i think firestarter is good
[04:01] <gavagai> myworld122, is your ubuntu system behind a router/
[04:02] <myworld122> gavagai: i'm behind a NAT enabled router
[04:02] <gavagai> then i would not bother if this is just your home setup
[04:02] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: Now I need to remove language-pack-de (which I installed in order to break, so I could do "dpkg -l | grep pack-de" and see what status broken packages are given) :)
[04:02] <myworld122> yep...home setup
[04:02] <myworld122> thanks!
[04:02] <gavagai> no firewall then
[04:02] <gavagai> :)
[04:02] <joachim-n> xchat gnome is so cool :)
[04:03] <joachim-n> but the upgrade didn't install it for me to replace cruddy old xchat
[04:03] <Warbo> joachim-n: It crashes for me :(
[04:03] <gavagai> pffft, graphical irc.  heh
[04:03] <kbrooks> Matthewv: well, won't, if the "sudo" is removed, the malicious code only "infect" your homre direcctory and all files and directories owned by you
[04:03] <h3sp4wn> myworld122: If your router is on http://toh.openwrt.org - as supported I would help you install that onto it (linux for routers)
[04:03] <joachim-n> not just graphical -- NICE graphical
[04:03] <sephran> how can I share the mounted HD partitions from windows in ubuntu live over the network?
[04:03] <joachim-n> ie, doesn't quit on ctrl-A
[04:03] <Matthewv> joachim-n, I prefer plain xchat or irssi :)
[04:04] <joachim-n> plain xcht is a usbility nightmare
[04:04] <b14ck> i can't see hidden files from windoze on my dvd
[04:04] <gavagai> irssi is my fave
[04:04] <b14ck> any advice?
[04:04] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: if you're running unauthenticated code as superuser, well, you get what you ask for - that's what pgp & package signing is for
[04:04] <sparkleytone> irssi proxy > *
[04:05] <chicken-man> gavagai, mmmm irssi :-P I'm using it now
[04:05] <meherenOS-X> what exactly does pearPc do?
[04:05] <Matthewv> kbrooks, but the instructions on the easyubuntu website say to run 'sudo python easyubuntu.py' and 99% of users will just run that, without inspecting the code first or whatever else you wan't them to do :)
[04:05] <sparkleytone> meherenOS-X: what are you trying to do?
[04:05] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: do easyubuntu publish the md5 for the code?
[04:05] <Matthewv> Frogzoo, thanks, but maybe kbrooks will find that more useful
[04:05] <juliux> moin
[04:06] <meherenOS-X> sparkleytone, that doesn't answer my question but oh well i want to run itunes/quicktime
[04:06] <Woozle> I installed some software via Synaptic.  How do I find out where that software has been installed to?
[04:06] <joachim-n> it's a real shame the gksudo bug with themes hasnt been fixed
[04:06] <BenPA> can anyone here help me with getting an update to clamav from version 0.78.1 to 0.88.2 ... I tried the help but don't understand it ... The ClamAV forum sent me here
[04:06] <kbrooks> Frogzoo: not yet
[04:06] <kbrooks> Frogzoo: maybe that could be useful
[04:06] <meherenOS-X> on my ubuntu box it's a i686 P 4 2.16 gighz
[04:06] <juliux> ich habe hier ein sehr interessantes problem, ich kann alle seiten pingen aber wenn ich die gleiche seite versuche mit firefox zu ffnen bekomme ich keinen timeout
[04:06] <gavagai> chicken-man, do you use any cool scripts for irssi?  i have nickcolor and trackbar, those are good
[04:06] <sparkleytone> meherenOS-X: on what?  linux?  on ppc or intel hw?
[04:06] <kbrooks> Frogzoo: but thats not an indicator of malicious code
[04:06] <meherenOS-X> dell inspirion 8200
[04:06] <chicken-man> My ubuntu 6.06 does not boot, I get's stuck at mounting root filesystem...
[04:06] <Frogzoo> kbrooks: well call me paranoid, but without an md5 sum or a pgp signature, I won't run anything will root privs
[04:06] <meherenOS-X> Im running ubuntu
[04:07] <aalya_> Someone use Wine for playing Steam (counter-strike) ? ty
[04:07] <xandhy> hi, i'm looking for help with pdf printing in dapper because i can't find in in printing configuration in gnome
[04:07] <juliux> sorry wrong channel
[04:07] <kbrooks> Frogzoo: sorry, s/indicator/definitive \1/
[04:07] <Frogzoo> !tell aalya_ about appdb
[04:07] <chicken-man> gavagai, Nope, I just install it :-)
[04:07] <Warbo> chicken-man: Where is it installed? (what kind of device)
[04:07] <sephran> does anyone know? how can I share the mounted HD partitions from windows in ubuntu live over the network?
[04:07] <meherenOS-X> i don't have winblows
[04:07] <Mysta> hey guys, how do I uninstall software installed w/ easyubuntu specifically Java????
[04:07] <chicken-man> Warbo, it's not installed
[04:07] <gavagai> chicken-man, irssi has an APT like system for installing scripts, it is cool.
[04:07] <Warbo> Mysta: Use Synaptic
[04:07] <b14ck> how can i access files hidden with windows. i have enabled the show hidden files from ubuntu but i still can't see them
[04:08] <kbrooks> Mysta: you can't.
[04:08] <chicken-man> Warbo, I'm talking about when you first run the disk
[04:08] <sparkleytone> only way i know is codeweavers meherenOS-X
[04:08] <Warbo> chicken-man: The LiveCD won't boot?
[04:08] <chicken-man> Warbo, Indeed
[04:08] <sparkleytone> i just don't run generic hw ;)
[04:08] <kbrooks> Mysta: from within easyubuntu, you cannot uninstall software
[04:08] <pianoboy3333> Anyone program python and use the curses module? I can't seem to find the function that will resize a window.
[04:08] <meherenOS-X> sparkleytone, I want to do this the (hard) free way
[04:08] <Warbo> chicken-man: OK, well I am not very familiar with the LiveCD's boot process sorry
[04:08] <kbrooks> pianoboy3333: hang on
[04:08] <chicken-man> Warbo, hehe :-P
[04:08] <pianoboy3333> kbrooks: ok
[04:08] <meherenOS-X> but just outa curiosity what does pearPc do?
[04:09] <Mysta> kbrooks: im aware, the java that it installed doesnt work w/ an application i want to use, so i want to get rid of it
[04:09] <Frogzoo> meherenOS-X: google would know...
[04:09] <sparkleytone> it emulates x86 for ppc macs
[04:09] <meherenOS-X> Frogzoo, lol ok
[04:09] <chicken-man> I have to say 6.06 is the worst version so far, thats why I'm using Debian at the moment
[04:09] <sparkleytone> meherenOS-X: ^
[04:09] <Warbo> meherenOS-X: PearPC emulates a PowerPC system (it makes a computer built out of software)
[04:09] <sparkleytone> oh...
[04:09] <sparkleytone> the other way around
[04:09] <bobz> any one any idea , I have nofirewall or anything i can connect to ssh using 192.168.1.5 but not my ip any ideas?
[04:10] <Matthewv> anyone know what to do when fsck produces errors on the root hard drive every other week... my hdd gets mounted read only, and then a restart will result in having to run a manual fsck
[04:10] <BenPA> :( ... can someone here please help me with getting an update to clamav from version 0.78.1 to 0.88.2 ... I tried the help but don't understand it ... The ClamAV forum sent me here
[04:10] <b14ck> how can i access files hidden with windows. i have enabled the show hidden files from ubuntu but i still can't see them
[04:10] <watson540> heh, he says no firewall or anything..get em boys :)
[04:10] <Frogzoo> bobz: you need to run an sshd
[04:10] <Matthewv> BenPA, you running clamav from the ubuntu repositories, or?
[04:10] <BenPA> yes
[04:10] <Frogzoo> bobz: & then PLEASE filter access to the port
[04:10] <lukaswayne9> When i run $ locale, my it complains about:   locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory        What can I do to fix this?
[04:11] <Warbo> b14ck: Ubuntu uses a different hiding system from Windows, so files hidden in windows should be visible in Ubuntu normally (without turning on "show hidden files")
[04:11] <meherenOS-X> Warbo, in other words it allows you to run PPC OSes and software on a i386 machine?
[04:11] <idoru_> Matthewv: that usually means your harddrive is dying
[04:11] <b14ck> Warbo:  well i can't see them eyther way. not even in knoppix
[04:11] <Matthewv> BenPA, are you running ubuntu 5.10 or ubuntu 6.06?
[04:11] <meherenOS-X> Warbo, it says it runs at about 1/500 on there site!?
[04:11] <Matthewv> idoru_, that'd be a worry, its only a year old
[04:11] <BenPA> 6.06
[04:11] <kbrooks> pianoboy3333: i cant find anything
[04:11] <pianoboy3333> I know...
[04:12] <Warbo> meherenOS-X: Yes, but unlike Qemu which only emulates a PowerPC (among others) system, PearPC lets you run MacOSX (OSX needs certain authentication things)
[04:12] <kbrooks> pianoboy3333: but wait
[04:12] <pianoboy3333> kbrooks: it's weird
[04:12] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: disks can die within 3 weeks of purchase - should be a warranty job, so no problem
[04:12] <kbrooks> pianoboy3333: i'll google
[04:12] <meherenOS-X> warbo, that seems really slow
[04:12] <meherenOS-X> oic
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> i want to ask why a package was removed from ubuntu, where would i look for that info?
[04:12] <joeybobby> this is great
[04:12] <basti> hallo all
[04:12] <Matthewv> BenPA, in that case, running 'sudo apt-get upgrade' should update that package and every other package :)
[04:12] <meherenOS-X> but then if i had a 2 ghz proccessor it would only run at 4mhz...?
[04:12] <Matthewv> Frogzoo, oh help :(
[04:12] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: you should review /var/log/messages & look for hdd timeouts
[04:12] <Matthewv> ok... I'll have a look
[04:13] <Warbo> meherenOS-X: You cannot emulate a foreign computer architecture very well if that architecture is powerful. PowerPC chips are far more powerful than PC chips, so it is no suprise that it runs so slowly
[04:13] <meherenOS-X> ah
[04:13] <meherenOS-X> but then it wouldn't really be usably would it?
[04:13] <meherenOS-X> unless you have a super-computer?
[04:13] <BenPA> Matthewv ... when I run upgrade then rerun freshclam I get a message to upgrade from clamav 0.87.1 to 0.88.2
[04:13] <Warbo> meherenOS-X: I cannot emulate a 14MHz Amiga using E-UAE (even with all of it's fancy JIT compilers) using my 2400+ AMD
[04:14] <juliux> someone here from uk? i have a problem with at adsl router from BT
[04:14] <Frogzoo> meherenOS-X: but for testing & dev't sometimes emulation is all you need
[04:14] <Warbo> juliux: If it is a BT Voyager with USB only then it will not work
[04:14] <rpedro> Kamping_Kaiser: if it's part of MOTU try searching http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages, it may have been removed in debian and hence universe
[04:14] <juliux> Warbo, no it isnt
[04:14] <meherenOS-X> Frogzoo, ah bingo... thx
[04:14] <VitaminG> Warba: how does that work? I can emulate that stuff on my 1 Ghz Duron!
[04:15] <Warbo> juliux: Ok, does it have ethernet?
[04:15] <meherenOS-X> Frogzoo, it may not be a very freindly workstation but it works good enough for testing...
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> rpedro, hte package i'm talking about is 'xmail', its not in the default install anymore, but it is part of the distro
[04:15] <Warbo> VitaminG: With sound enabled?
[04:15] <juliux> Warbo, it is working with the linux clients but not with my ubuntu notebook
[04:15] <fahman_dude> hi dudes, is there any guid for migration from distribution with KDE to ubuntu somewhere out there please?
[04:15] <Warbo> juliux: What is the actual problem you are getting?
[04:15] <Yoosah> i'm trying to install the quickcam driver, but it complains that i do not have the kernel source or even headers, my kernel is 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic, but apt-cache only has headers for 2.6.12  ..what to do?
[04:15] <VitaminG> warba, no, no sound
[04:15] <rpedro> Kamping_Kaiser: then maybe launchpad.net may have something, but I'm not sure, sorry
[04:15] <Matthewv> BenPA, thats interesting.. maybe reinstall clamav-freshclam, or ensure that you have clamav-freshclam and clamav v 0.88.. the latest version in dapper is 0.88.2-1ubuntu1
[04:16] <Frogzoo> fahman_dude: do you have ubuntu installed? then press F1
[04:16] <juliux> Warbo, i can ping the sites but i get a timeout from firefox
[04:16] <VitaminG> warba that could be it.
[04:16] <fahman_dude> no I have suse right now and ubuntu cd on my table
[04:16] <fahman_dude> :D
[04:16] <Warbo> VitaminG: "If pacman goes too fast, turn on sound" that is my philosophy :)
[04:16] <schalken> home come sound doesn't work in sun java?
[04:17] <BenPA> Matthewv ... I have tried several time to reinstall and it keeps telling me I have the latest version
[04:17] <Frogzoo> fahman_dude: ubuntu has a guide for  "getting started with gnome"
[04:17] <Frogzoo> !tell fahman_dude about docs
[04:17] <Mikelo> is there any ubuntu activity related to the world cup? anywhere where i can watch live skylights
[04:17] <Warbo> juliux: Well, I am not VERY good with networks actually (was just thinking you had a crappy USB modem, where even I can see the problem :))
[04:17] <Frogzoo> fahman_dude: there's also the wiki docs ^^^
[04:17] <fahman_dude> I was wondering what happens if I install ubuntu and use my old /home folder with kde and all other stuff
[04:17] <Matthewv> BenPA, so freshclam tells you that clamav needs updating, even though you have the latest version installed...
[04:18] <Scorpmoon> what's the best way to transfer files between windows and ubuntu.. filezilla server on windows crashes
[04:18] <Warbo> fahman_dude: You need to make sure all of the preferences and stuff are owned by your Ubuntu account
[04:18] <AngryElf> is there a command that will start the screensaver immediately?
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> Scorpmoon: putty scp
[04:18] <Frogzoo> fahman_dude: I'd recommend mounting /home as /home1 & copying over only what you need
[04:18] <schalken> !javasound
[04:18] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, schalken
[04:18] <Warbo> fahman_dude: Also, some things may work differently due to different software versions (I know when I tried it with GNOME once all of my icons went HUGE :))
[04:18] <VitaminG> warba: I don't see why sound should slow it down that much, though. When I use stuff like Atari, NES, N64, etc. turning off the sound just reduces the experience, It doesn't speed things up. And I didn't think the Amiga was that much more sophisticated than an Atari 7800.
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> Scorpmoon, you could try winscp
[04:19] <Scorpmoon> will scp make sure the encodings are right? that my files are completely identical after copying
[04:19] <schalken> has anyone had sound not work in sun java?
[04:19] <fahman_dude> thanks dude for the mounting tip
[04:19] <Scorpmoon> i dont need the secure thing, it's lan
[04:19] <gavagai> i don't know if it is relevant but the amiga was much more sophisticated than the 7800.  :)
[04:19] <BenPA> Matthewv ... that is correct
[04:19] <Matthewv> thats strange then... does freshclam have a support channel?
[04:19] <myworld122> can anyone tell me how can change gamma n color setting for nvidia cards?
[04:20] <BenPA> they sent me here LOL
[04:20] <VitaminG> gavagai: the hardware, or the software?
[04:20] <Warbo> schalken: To be honest I've never used any Java program which needs sound, but there are various control panels for Java in the preferences menu (and if not, in the Debian menu in the "menu" package)
[04:20] <gavagai> both i think
[04:20] <Matthewv> Frogzoo, would it help if I pastbin'd the content of /var/log/messages
[04:20] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: I can take a quick look
[04:20] <gavagai> amiga had like cd quality sound, real multitasking os, etc
[04:20] <bootlick> Using the "mail" command in drapper,  how do i get to the next message? i can read the first then can seem to find how to jump to the next one
[04:21] <Mikelo> its a shame that ubuntu doesn't have any program or app related to the world cup
[04:21] <Warbo> gavagai: HAS!
[04:21] <BenPA> Matthewv ... can you tell me the command to check to see the latest version of ubuntu ... I will check that again
[04:21] <gavagai> right, has
[04:21] <Warbo> :)
[04:21] <gavagai> lol
[04:21] <Frogzoo> gavagai: maybe some day linux will catch up to the amiga lol
[04:21] <gavagai> that would be sweet
[04:21] <bootlick> I adore my c-64
[04:21] <Matthewv> BenPA, try clamav --version , or freshclam --version , or something like that... hang on half a tic
[04:21] <BenPA> Matthewv ... I did an upgrade a little while ago
[04:21] <Warbo> gavagai: Well I don't use UAE much, since I have an Amiga right next to me
[04:21] <juliux> Warbo, sorry i get a disconnet, so do you have any idea?
[04:22] <gavagai> i had a commodore and loved it, i never had an amiga though
[04:22] <Warbo> juliux: Well, to copy/paste my last message: Well, I am not VERY good with networks actually (was just thinking you had a crappy USB modem, where even I can see the problem :))
[04:22] <schalken> Warbo: yeah but there's nothing about sound in there. im testing on this: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~van/sssjava/javademo.html
[04:22] <pianoboy3333> kbrooks: find anything?
[04:22] <juliux> Warbo, ok thank you
[04:22] <b14ck> i got an error "Unable to start HAL!"
[04:23] <Matthewv> BenPA, try sudo dpkg -s clamav-freshclam
[04:23] <Woozle> What are you doing, Dave?
[04:23] <Woozle> (HAL joke)
[04:23] <Warbo> schalken: I get a "Missing Plugin" page :)
[04:23] <Mikelo> i think that if ubuntu platyed a soccer match against windows ubuntu would win 5-0!
[04:23] <Yoosah> daisy.. daii.. syyy..
[04:23] <b14ck> joke?
[04:24] <BenPA> Matthewv ... when I do freshclam -v I get this message ......... Software version from DNS: 0.88.2
[04:24] <BenPA> WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED!
[04:24] <BenPA> WARNING: Local version: 0.87.1 Recommended version: 0.88.2
[04:24] <BenPA> DON'T PANIC! Read http://www.clamav.net/faq.html
[04:24] <gerix> update clamav
[04:24] <Woozle> BenPA: panic!
[04:24] <gavagai> i would panic
[04:24] <gerix> apt-get?
[04:25] <compubomb> anyone know of a linux par checker ?
[04:25] <Warbo> gerix: That is apparently the latest version in Ubuntu
[04:25] <BenPA> Matthewv ... when I tried what you just suggested with dpkg I get a conflict
[04:26] <myworld122> can anyone tell me how can change gamma n color setting for nvidia cards?
[04:26] <InterNut> i rebooted my computer, and now when i try to open my external HDD (NTFS) there is only one file ".created_by_pmount" ... and i have never written to that partition in linux.....
[04:26] <InterNut> is all my files gone?
[04:26] <Warbo> myworld122: There is an nvidia-settings package (but I think that conflicts with nvidia-glx these days)
[04:26] <gavagai> ok i want to set up a simple little ftp server.  i've used proftpd before.  however the default config file for proftpd with ubuntu is, in my opinion, not very helpful.  what do people recommend for a quick and dirty ftp installation?
[04:26] <snoops> I'm having a fun time trying to get my logitech mx1000 mouse buttons to work
[04:27] <Frogzoo> snoops: gl with that
[04:27] <gerix> Warbo: dapper? 6.06
[04:27] <BenPA> Matthewv ... I get this error ..... Package: clamav-freshclam
[04:27] <BenPA> Status: install ok installed
[04:27] <BenPA> Priority: optional
[04:27] <BenPA> Section: utils
[04:27] <BenPA> Installed-Size: 2980
[04:27] <BenPA> Maintainer: Stephen Gran <sgran@debian.org>
[04:27] <BenPA> Architecture: i386
[04:27] <BenPA> Source: clamav
[04:27] <BenPA> Version: 0.87.1-1~breezy1
[04:27] <BenPA> Provides: clamav-data
[04:27] <snoops> damn :(
[04:27] <Frogzoo> BenPA: spamspamspamspamspamspamspam
[04:27] <snoops> I was hoping it would be an easy fix..
[04:27] <BenPA> it still says breezy
[04:27] <Warbo> gerix: Well, that is whay he's complaining (how to install non-packaged ClamAV)
[04:27] <Warbo> why
[04:27] <Frogzoo> !tell BenPA about pastebin
[04:27] <BenPA> no it's not spwm Frogzoo
[04:27] <BenPA> sorry it's the only way I can tell matthew what I am seeing
[04:28] <Frogzoo> BenPA: please do NOT paste into chan
[04:28] <BenPA> sorry
[04:28] <Frogzoo> BenPA: use pastebin instead - read the pm from ubotu
[04:28] <Woozle> can you send me that too, frogzoo?  im curious how it works
[04:28] <searayman> how do i edit theis: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:29] <Hobbsee> searayman: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:29] <Frogzoo> searayman: you use "synaptic" unless you have a really good idea what you're doing
[04:29] <gerix> man vi
[04:29] <armedking> Anyone know why my ubuntu box doesnt support the use of 2 audio apps? Or is there a way around it. When using xmms to play music my skype says my sound device is busy?
[04:29] <Scorpmoon> someone recommended SCP before for transfering files to linux from windows.. but isn't Samba a better solution?
[04:29] <TLE> Does anybody know how i change the resolution in the login screen?
[04:30] <searayman> Frogzoo:  do u know how to install ararok 1.4?
[04:30] <m6s> Does anyone know why while I have libgnomeuimm-2.6 package, pkgconfig checks for 2.0 !!!!!!
[04:30] <m6s> I installed 6.06 from 5.xx
[04:30] <searayman> Frogzoo:  i am using this website http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Debian#Obtaining_a_newer_version
[04:30] <Frogzoo> !tell searayman about amarok
[04:30] <Woozle> !tell woozle about pastebin
[04:30] <Frogzoo> searayman: no, but ubotu does
[04:30] <gerix> lol
[04:30] <gerix> :)
[04:30] <igorzolnikov> BenPA: moderators are paranoids here (about spam) ;-)
[04:30] <myworld122> Warbo: oo...ok then...im using Glx+compiz
[04:30] <BenPA> ok, I understand
[04:30] <searayman> Frogzoo:  can u help me follow this? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[04:31] <searayman> Frogzoo:  like translate the directions for me
[04:31] <Frogzoo> searayman: I don't think that guide can be more straightforward honestly
[04:31] <InterNut> Help please!! rebooted my computer, and now when i try to open my external HDD (NTFS) there is only one file ".created_by_pmount" ... and i have never written to that partition in linux..... is all my file gone??? i dont have win any more, this is my backup from win, and a bunch of DL's
[04:31] <searayman> Frogzoo:  i am new to linux please
[04:32] <meherenOS-X> will it even be practicall to try to run itunes on max os x panther using pearpc 500mhz pentium 3?
[04:32] <amgad> guys, does dapper have problems with azureus, or its just me..
[04:32] <kbrooks> pianoboy3333: no
[04:32] <pianoboy3333> oy...
[04:32] <thelostbyte> Hi ! what the diff bet legacy and normal nvidia drivers ?
[04:32] <Sir_Brizz> amgad: what problems?
[04:32] <Frogzoo> searayman: I'm heading out just now, but someone here will point you in the right direction
[04:32] <meherenOS-X> amagad, what's wrong with bittornado?
[04:32] <searayman> Frogzoo_away:  i did the first part
[04:32] <searayman> Frogzoo_away:  just need help with the deb thing
[04:32] <amgad> Sir_Brizz, severe gui problems, no tray icon, port blocking warnings, although i opened them in fire starter
[04:32] <searayman> Frogzoo_away:  the apt source thingy
[04:33] <Sir_Brizz> amgad: you need to install the latest BETA build
[04:33] <searayman> can somone help me install armorak 1.4
[04:33] <amgad> Sir_Brizz, not the latest stable??
[04:33] <armedking> Anyone know why my ubuntu box doesnt support the use of 2 audio apps? Or is there a way around it. When using xmms to play music my skype says my sound device is busy?
[04:33] <amgad> Sir_Brizz, or the one from repositries?
[04:33] <Sir_Brizz> amgad: no, the latest stable has the tray problems
[04:33] <amgad> sirfred, i see.. thanks
[04:33] <searayman> i am almost done just need help with how to dp apt-source part on these directions
[04:33] <meherenOS-X> amagad, i run the latest alpha on everything
[04:34] <erikdb> Hi, I have a suse installation, set /etc/HOSTNAME to "foo", but the prompt stays (none) even after reboots. Issuing "hostname foo" and then hostname does update it. It seems that the startup procedure misses the hostname configuration. Where is this done and how can I set this?
[04:34] <Sir_Brizz> amgad: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[04:34] <hastesaver> How do I get xchat to integrat with Firefox? (i.e., how do I make xchat the protocol handler for irc:// links) ?
[04:34] <meherenOS-X> i know it's not the smartest thing... but i don't care
[04:34] <meherenOS-X> i gtg
[04:34] <searayman> help with aptsource pleasse?
[04:34] <Sir_Brizz> amgad: I'm assuming you have Sun Java running instea of gij?
[04:34] <amgad> Sir_Brizz, yes i do, from synaptic
[04:35] <Sir_Brizz> amgad: good, then all you need to do is locate the Azureus2.jar and replace it with the jar on the page I linked you to
[04:35] <chuso> hi all!
[04:35] <chuso> first of all, sorry for my English
[04:35] <amgad> Sir_Brizz, strange thing also, i can't click on the buttons on warning messages of azureus, on the right bottom corner, very irritating
[04:35] <amgad> Sir_Brizz, i'll try and see, thanks..
[04:36] <Sir_Brizz> amgad: same fix :) there are alot of bugs in the stable linux version
[04:36] <chuso> my init.d script for mldonkey has been changed and now its unable to start it correctly
[04:36] <chuso> Does anybody knows how to fix it untill the bug is fixed and upgraded?
[04:36] <Woozle> Frogzoo, with pasteboard... a person pastes all their nasty data in there... and then shares the URL in here?  Is that correct?
[04:36] <amgad> Sir_Brizz, but why isn't thing about it in the release notes or the ubuntu forums or something, i googled abit and got a feeling that its my problem only
[04:36] <gavagai> nasty, filthy data, yeah
[04:37] <Woozle> cool
[04:37] <Sir_Brizz> amgad: I don't know, I had the exact same problem and took me a long time to figure it out
[04:37] <BenPA> Matthewv ... I found something ... I am trying .... update-manager -d
[04:37] <kar-tar> what's the command or combination of commands to search for a file with a specific line of text contents?
[04:37] <kar-tar> every clever combination of xargs, find, and grep i come up with gives an out of memory error
[04:39] <kbrooks> kar-tar: find finds. DUH.
[04:39] <albacker> kar-tar, this doesn't:    find / | grep c | echo `xargs`
[04:39] <juliux> Warbo, it is a problem with the dns server on the dsl router ;) now it works,
[04:39] <marcus> can anybody tell me how to build the vmmon-kernel module for kernel 2.6.15-23-386? Running the make-command end with an error "/tmp/vmware-config2/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:11:26: Fehler: include/linux/kernel.h: Too many levels of symbolic links" <- but why?
[04:39] <hikenboot> hello all---sorry for this question but I cant seem to find the package for gtk+2.0 or higher anyone know what the package name is? I have enabled all apt-sources and still do not see it
[04:40] <hastesaver> kar-tar, just use grep. Why should you use find or xargs?
[04:40] <kar-tar> okay, so how do i get it to return the location of a file that contains the line "line of text"
[04:40] <kar-tar> i'm looking for a file, i don't know where it is, i know what text it contains
[04:40] <kar-tar> i thought to cat every file, and run grep -l on that
[04:40] <thelostbyte> How to increase my resolution ?
[04:40] <hikenboot> Kar-tar install kfind
[04:40] <albacker> kar-tar, that's an idea..
[04:40] <hastesaver> kar-tar, "grep -L pattern"
[04:41] <thelostbyte> Screen resolution..
[04:41] <kar-tar> ugh, i'd rather learn the command line than another gui tool
[04:41] <hastesaver> kar-tar, er, what's the problem with "grep -l" ?
[04:41] <blaamann> I just updated from Breezy to Dapper and my resoulution has changed. How do I set it back to what is was, do I ned to edit the xorg.conf file or is there another way ?
[04:41] <kar-tar> well, it ran out of memory running over every file in my filesystem
[04:41] <kar-tar> you need to edit xorg.conf
[04:41] <albacker> kar-tar, you have to use for, and if. for more information go to #bash,
[04:41] <hastesaver> !tell blaamann about fixres
[04:41] <blaamann> kar-tar: OK
[04:42] <hastesaver> kar-tar, you did (grep -l "line of text" * -R) ?
[04:42] <GaiaX11> how do i access a non static ip through ssh?
[04:42] <hikenboot> can anyone tell me the package for gtk+ ? I see every bloody thing under the sun but the core gtk files
[04:42] <kar-tar> oh, no
[04:42] <albacker> hikenboot, you might need libgtk2.0
[04:42] <albacker> or isnt it ? :S
[04:42] <hikenboot> ah thanks
[04:42] <kar-tar> i was using find / | cat | xargs grep -l "line of text"
[04:42] <hikenboot> maybe its my apt sources
[04:43] <h3sp4wn> GaiaX11: use ez-ipupdate (and a dynamic dns service)
[04:43] <chuso> can anybody tell me hoy to hack this bug on startup script for mldonkey? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mldonkey/+bugs
[04:43] <kar-tar> are you using the official sources, did you remove anything?  ubuntu definitely has gtk+
[04:43] <hikenboot> hmm...still dont see it checking another system
[04:43] <GaiaX11> h3sp4wn, Is that a program?
[04:43] <marcus> can anybody tell me how to build the vmmon-kernel module for kernel 2.6.15-23-386? Running the make-command end with an error "/tmp/vmware-config2/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:11:26: Fehler: include/linux/kernel.h: Too many levels of symbolic links" <- but why?
[04:44] <hastesaver> kar-tar, that's very bad; it tries to cat all the files (including /dev/hda, which is all of your harddrive)
[04:44] <h3sp4wn> GaiaX11: yes
[04:44] <kar-tar> ayah, good call
[04:45] <hastesaver> kar-tar, and you don't really need xargs either. Just do (grep -l "line of text" * -R) from whichever directory (but better not to look inside the system directories; they won't have any of your data, right? What are you trying to find?
[04:45] <brandon_> is there a command i can run to shut off the monitor?
[04:45] <elate> how do I get the damned ssh server to start on dapper
[04:45] <hastesaver> elate, installed the package ssh ?
[04:45] <elate> the package has no installation candidate
[04:45] <Typpo> hey, can anybody here help me out with sound that stopped working after I upgraded to dapper?
[04:46] <hastesaver> elate, try openssh-server
[04:46] <elate> hastesaver: I'll give that a go
[04:46] <bensode> Good morning folkes!
[04:46] <juliux> elate, the package is ssh
[04:46] <hastesaver> elate, but 'ssh' should also be in the repos...
[04:46] <GaiaX11> h3sp4wn, does ez-ipupdate let me use ssh with dynDNS?
[04:46] <juliux> hastesaver, sure it is in main ;)
[04:46] <bensode> How can I initiate the gui upgrade from 5.1 to dapper?
[04:46] <kar-tar> i'm trying to find the document that contains the text "test of lighttpd"
[04:46] <wezzer> hello, my friend has strange x server error when booting from ubuntu install cd
[04:46] <hastesaver> GaiaX11, I use ddclient for dynDNS
[04:47] <kar-tar> i've been trying and trying to get it to point to a directory in my home folder, and no matter what .conf file i modify, the server still serves the test document
[04:47] <elate> package ssh has no installation candidate
[04:47] <h3sp4wn> GaiaX11: All it does is update the dyndns ssh is totally seperate from that
[04:47] <elate> it says to install openssh-client instead
[04:47] <kar-tar> so it might be in a system folder, probably is in fact
[04:47] <Warbo> wezzer: There is an alternative CD which doesn't use X if the worst comes to the worst
[04:47] <wezzer> Warbo: okay, hope that helps
[04:48] <hastesaver> elate, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, something must be wrong.
[04:48] <Scorpmoon> is NTFS mount still experiemental?
[04:48] <GaiaX11> h3sp4wn, after updanting dyndns can i use ssh with dynDNS?
[04:49] <kar-tar> hmmm... still choking on /dev/ stuff, any way I can give it a regex like ^(dev)/*
[04:49] <armedking> NTFS Realy blows if you ask me.
[04:49] <kar-tar> (obviously that's not correct, but something to that effect)
[04:49] <hastesaver> kar-tar, it's probably /var/www ?
[04:49] <kar-tar> NTFS is evil evil evil
[04:49] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: mount to read is fine you just cant write safely to ntfs from linux
[04:49] <Matthewv> Scorpmoon, I believe that it is for write access, bur read access is stable
[04:49] <hastesaver> !ntfs
[04:49] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[04:49] <kar-tar> ok, i'll try searching /var/*
[04:49] <bensode> NTFS is mountable reliably,  Writing to it i another story
[04:49] <Scorpmoon> check the poll on this page, regarding what file system to use for sharing: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/content/view/159/84/
[04:49] <hastesaver> kar-tar, my guess is that the file is /var/www/index.html :)
[04:49] <kar-tar> I'd use a fat32 partition to move data between NTFS and linux
[04:50] <Scorpmoon> ok
[04:50] <kar-tar> no such fil,e or directory
[04:50] <elate> hastesaver: doesn't seem to fit in pastebin :p
[04:50] <Scorpmoon> i forgot, what is the largest partition size with fat32?
[04:50] <kar-tar> 80 some gigs
[04:50] <kar-tar> or maybe 120 some
[04:50] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: to write to i think its 4gig
[04:50] <kar-tar> oh no, way bigger than that
[04:51] <kar-tar> you're thinking fat16
[04:51] <Scorpmoon> hehe i believe so
[04:51] <kar-tar> ah, that upgrade to win98, such a fateful day
[04:51] <Matthewv> max file size is 4gig
[04:51] <bensode> alrighty then!  Going to upgrade to 6.06 and see what breaks =)
[04:51] <Warbo> Scorpmoon: I know file size is 4GB, but I think my mate made a huge fat partition recently and Windows just said it was "RAW" after it reached a certain size
[04:51] <gnomefreak> Matthewv: thank you thats what i was thinking
[04:51] <hastesaver> elate, that's incredible... try again, or use http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic to get a new sources.list
[04:51] <Matthewv> no probs gnomefreak
[04:51] <Scorpmoon> 4 gig is gonna be a problem with those dual dvd isos..
[04:52] <Bazzi> even with single dvd isos
[04:52] <Scorpmoon> right..
[04:52] <elate> hastesaver: ignore that, it was just vnc failpasting
[04:52] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: burn them ;)
[04:52] <kar-tar> use a .RAR utility to break large files up
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> make and format the vfat partition under linux - XP likes to force you to use ntfs for anything over a specific size
[04:52] <GaiaX11> h3sp4wn, the problem is that when i try to access a machine outside my intranet. Like ssh username@10.xxx.xxx.x it hangs in the konsole and do not ask me for the password
[04:52] <Woozle> What is the Windows Manager for Ubuntu?
[04:52] <kar-tar> gnome
[04:52] <Warbo> Woozle: Metacity
[04:52] <keyshawn> nautilus
[04:52] <vesperofshadow> quick question I am on 6.06, everything installed fine. The only exception is the manufacturer list is empty when I go to install my printer. Any ideas as to what package I need to install to correct this?
[04:53] <gnomefreak> metacity
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> or use one of those ext2/3 reader/writer drivers for xp and just use a spare ext2 partition.
[04:53] <keyshawn> (yeah, im wrong)
[04:53] <keyshawn> heh, 3 different answers he gets.
[04:53] <kar-tar> yeah, i was going to ask, what's the status of ext2/3 on xp?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> vesperofshadow,  'foomatic' i think is the term in the printer driver packages. I had a similer issue.
[04:53] <dbernar1> GaiaX11: 10. is reserved for intranets, and is not avail on the internet.
[04:53] <Bazzi> Dr_Willis: winxp likes to screw up the ext parittion then though
[04:53] <Woozle> Warbo: thanks
[04:53] <hastesaver> Woozle, metacity by default (under Gnome), but you can also install whatever other one you like
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> kar-tar,  i use it all the time with no problems..  others seem to have issues.
[04:53] <vesperofshadow> Thank you Dr wWillis
[04:53] <elate> hastesaver: ok pastebin keeps crashing atm
[04:53] <Woozle> hastesaver: thank you.
[04:54] <kar-tar> what are the names of the projects?
[04:54] <elate> I'll just replace my sources list and try again
[04:54] <KuLover> Anyone use fulxbox?
[04:54] <djtansey> what does it mean when nautilus cd burner says Some files don't have a suitable name for a Windows-compatible CD? how do i correct this (i'm trying to burn a backup that will need to be loaded onto a windows machine)
[04:54] <KuLover> fluxbox*
[04:54] <Woozle> Is there a help channel for metacity?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> metacity =window manager  nautilus =file manager gnome= desktopenviornment
[04:54] <bootlick> What do i need to get to use the "make" command on drapper?
[04:54] <Warbo> hastesaver: How do you tell GNOME to use a different WM? (there are references all over Configuration Editor and the alternatives system)
[04:54] <joachim-n> yelp search doesn't work
[04:54] <GaiaX11> dbernar1, But using debian i can do that!
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> www.fs-driver.org/  is hat i use to let xp read/write my ext2 partitions
[04:54] <dbernar1> :-/
[04:54] <dbernar1> Seveas: ping
[04:54] <dbernar1> cafuego: ping
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> pong
[04:55] <gnomefreak> dbernar1: whats the problem?
[04:55] <dbernar1> I want to ask them a question.
[04:55] <kar-tar> so have you guys been using the deskbar?  i love this thing
[04:55] <Woozle> Where can I find help for metacity in Ubuntu?
[04:55] <Woozle> (chat)
[04:55] <kar-tar> here if you're lucky
[04:55] <kar-tar> what's the problem?
[04:55] <gnomefreak> Woozle: here or try #metacity
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Woozle,  the wiki and forums proberly have answers to any questions you may ask. :P
[04:55] <Woozle> #metacity is empty
[04:55] <Hobbsee> dbernar1: i think cafuego is on holidays
[04:55] <Warbo> kar-tar: I'm trying to stop myself launching Epiphany and entering an address, since deskbar doe it for me :)
[04:56] <gnomefreak> Seveas: isnt here atm either
[04:56] <kar-tar> #debian if all else fails
[04:56] <dbernar1> I can see that, thanks guys...
[04:56] <kar-tar> make sure to announce yourself as a n00buntu loser
[04:56] <Woozle> I am testing out the GIMP and wanted to have the tool palettes be "always on top" of the canvas (not on top of everything I am running).  Can it be done?  GIMP help says to ask my windows manager.
[04:56] <GaiaX11> dbernar1, I have a friend not far from me and i'd like to help him with some configs and i'd like to access his machine. And his machine is 10.xxx.xxx.x, so why can't i access his machine through ssh?
[04:56] <Woozle> i am a n00buntu lser
[04:56] <dbernar1> oh ya, they wont flame you then at all...
[04:57] <bootlick> What do i need to get to use the "make" command on drapper? Is there a package I am missing
[04:57] <Warbo> Woozle: I don't think Metacity can do that. You need a WM with different "layers"
[04:57] <kar-tar> better to say it up front, and make it clear that you've asked for help elsewhere first
[04:57] <dbernar1> GaiaX11: 10. is reserved for intranets, and does not exist on the internet, iirc.
[04:57] <gnomefreak> bootlick: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:57] <dbernar1> GaiaX11: does he use a router?
[04:57] <fluxy> uh hey ppl am leaving too much lag, i'll have to check my net connection *sic*
[04:57] <bootlick> thanks gnomefreak
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Woozle,  most window managers can do that.. check the windows 'control' menu. or use a theme that adds the buttons to the menu title bar
[04:57] <hastesaver> bootlick, first, make sure you really want to do that :) (Whatever you're installing is very likely available in the repos)
[04:57] <gnomefreak> bootlick: yw
[04:57] <Frogzoo_away> GaiaX11: cos maybe your friend's not running an sshd (ssh daemon)?
[04:57] <Warbo> Woozle: Or, even better, give the canvas an "Always Below" property (which Metacity can't do)
[04:57] <h3sp4wn> Warbo: #linux-help is much more helpful/knowledgeable than #debian in my experience (bizzare gpg problem on debian sid mipsel that someone helped me fix)
[04:58] <keyshawn> my floppy drive detected and read the first disk i put in there, but i ejected it, and  put in a new disk, but nautilus and bash is detecting as if the first disk is still in there.
[04:58] <kar-tar> oh hey, i don't have my desktop system here to work on, but have people gotten widescreen monitors to work in ubuntu?  the only references i'm able to find are for laptops, and they haven't worked for me.
[04:58] <GaiaX11> Frogzoo_away, His is i myself installed it
[04:58] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[04:58] <Codenut> Some one gave a link to a sources.list file that I have lost could someone point it out to me please?
[04:58] <Woozle> Dr_Willis I tried the control menu and it has "on top" but results in it being on top of FireFox and other programs.
[04:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Codenut -about sources
[04:58] <Frogzoo> h3sp4wn: I think #debian's probably more knowledgeable, but maybe #linux-help is more helpful O.o
[04:58] <Matthewv> Frogzoo, did you end up having a look at my /var/log/messages ??
[04:59] <Warbo> Woozle: Try to find a WM with "Always Below" function
[04:59] <papapep> GaiaX11: And did you modify his router config to forward the ssh port to his pc?
[04:59] <Woozle> Warbo: I don't see an option for always below, either
[04:59] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: pastebin url?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Woozle,  thats what on top does. :P  put other programs on their own desktop  perhaps.
[04:59] <Warbo> Woozle: Yes, Metacity can't do it
[04:59] <wweasel> Could someone help me? I just installed ubuntu yesterday. I like amaroK. It's default play/pause etc. shortcuts involve the windows key. how do i set up the windows key?
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> Frogzoo: No one seems to know much about mips in #debian
[04:59] <Matthewv> Frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15471
[04:59] <GaiaX11> papapep, I think not
[04:59] <Woozle> Warbo: okay, I will search for some comparisons before doing anything else, thanks
[04:59] <Frogzoo> h3sp4wn: is this 4 wrt54gs?
[04:59] <Warbo> wweasel: Does it not just work straight away? (Are you on a Mac?)
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> Frogzoo: netgear WGT634U
[04:59] <keyshawn> should i manually unmount my floppy drive /
[05:00] <wweasel> warbo: no, on a laptop
[05:00] <Frogzoo> h3sp4wn: you're best to take your openwrt questions to openwrt.org
[05:00] <vesperofshadow> looks like I have the latest foomatic db and db engines installed already. I did reinstall foomatic-db but that does not seem to have helped. manufacturer list is still empty
[05:00] <papapep> GaiaX11: Then, you've got it....
[05:00] <Codenut> !ubuntu tell codenute -about sourced
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> Frogzoo: Its not running openwrt though its running debian
[05:00] <ubotu> Codenut: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:00] <roler> Is there a program that replaces network-admin that actually works, and let's you connect to multiple wireless connections?
[05:00] <Frogzoo> h3sp4wn: well there's your problem ;)
[05:00] <wezzer> Warbo: is there anything special in this alternative install cd? I ask because my friend hasn't tried linux until now :-)
[05:00] <Matthewv> Codenut, give /msg ubotu sourced a try
[05:01] <GaiaX11> papapep, which is the file to do that? ssh.conf?
[05:01] <bootlick> Ugg, now where do I find kernel build files?
[05:01] <h3sp4wn> Frogzoo: debian supports mipsel its a supported architecture
[05:01] <kar-tar> i've never found a wireless connection manager i like for ANY os, i just use iwconfig and dhclient on the root commandline
[05:01] <papapep> No, in his router, not in the computer.
[05:01] <Afief> How can i install new fonts on a linux system?
[05:01] <Warbo> wezzer: It is just for systems where the LiveCD doesn't work (also, it doesn't rely on downloading packages because they are on the disc)
[05:02] <wezzer> Warbo: ah, ok
[05:02] <vinboy> anyone using reiser4?
[05:02] <roler> kar-tar, ; i wrote a bootup perl wireless script that scans for local wireless AP MACs and adjusts iwconfig form there... I just wanted to use something graphical since I just switched to ubuntu and was trying to keep it ubuntu like
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> !fonts
[05:02] <ubotu> methinks fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[05:02] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: well that's only about 5 minutes of logs - but nothing wrong from just a quick look
[05:02] <keyshawn> Dr_Willis beat me to it
[05:02] <papapep> you must tell the router that if a remote machine tries to access its 22 port has to redirect the connection to the internal ip, and por 22, of your friend's computer
[05:02] <Matthewv> Frogzoo, it actually goes up to june 9th at the top doesn't it?
[05:02] <keyshawn> i tried to manually umount my floppy drive, but it said the device was busy
[05:02] <h3sp4wn> Frogzoo: (I know openwrt works pretty well on it I only use debian sid mipsel for porting packages for openwrt)
[05:03] <kar-tar> it seems like ubuntu should allow non-root to mess with network connections by default, at least on laptops...
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> keyshawn,  cd out of any floppy dirs, and exit programs accessing the floppy.
[05:03] <GaiaX11> papapep, we access the net using aerials through a company provider. So, is the company server the router?
[05:03] <ThePub> keyshawn, floppies become a part of the mount system, if you're looking at it (say via nautilus) it is busy.
[05:03] <Fr0Gs> hey all
[05:03] <ThePub> keyshawn, what Dr_Willis said :)
[05:03] <Fr0Gs> i am using warty hog version of ubuntu how do i make my sources go back to normal i lost my origanal ones :S
[05:03] <papapep> GaiaX11: Sorry, but I have no idea about that. I suppose it is possible. Ask them to solve the doubt.
[05:04] <Warbo> kar-tar: Ubuntu allows non-root to mess with anything, root has a scrambled password :) (I always say "super user" to mean sudo, rather than root who is in fact a different user)
[05:04] <wweasel> Could someone help me? I have a multimedia keyboard...I'd like to map the music buttons to amaroK's default keyshortcuts (win+c, win
[05:04] <wweasel> oops. etc.
[05:04] <h3sp4wn> Fr0Gs: warty is unsupported now (no security updates) you should upgrade to at least hoary
[05:04] <Frogzoo> h3sp4wn: oic - well for building packages, imo, you'd be best off to install the openwrt tool chain, imo as I say
[05:04] <col-panic> I <3 root
[05:04] <Yoosah> wweasel: lineakd may help
[05:04] <Fr0Gs> i know that
[05:04] <Fr0Gs> but how do i get my sources back
[05:05] <Fr0Gs> i got the installation cd
[05:05] <keyshawn> allright, thanks. That worked, after i unmounted it successfully, i opened up nautilus and it read my new floppy :)
[05:05] <Frogzoo> !tell Fr0Gs about easysource
[05:05] <Codenut> Thanks to everyone who helped me, cheers!!!
[05:05] <Warbo> Fr0Gs: Is there a backup (called sources.list~)?
[05:05] <wweasel> yoosah, can i do win+something combinations with keypreferences?
[05:05] <hastesaver> Fr0Gs, easysource doesn't support warty either
[05:05] <wweasel> keyboard shortcuts rather
[05:05] <h3sp4wn> Frogzoo: I know (and know how to use the openwrt toolchain) but mipsel sid has some mipsel specific patches already for 16000 programs
[05:05] <gharz> anybody here who's using Dell Inspiron 510m?
[05:06] <wweasel> Can I do windows key combinations using keyboard shortcuts?
[05:06] <gharz> i'm having problem playing DVD & VCD...
[05:06] <Yoosah> wweasel: don't know anything about that, just that lineakd can help with mediabuttons
[05:06] <kar-tar> dude...
[05:06] <keyshawn> (although it doesn't automatically umnt the disks, it's ok. Thanks Dr_Willis and the other one)
[05:06] <wweasel> alright, thanks yoosah?
[05:06] <Frogzoo> h3sp4wn: ah, nice, didn't know that
[05:06] <wweasel> argh...i'm typing badly. i meant to put a period. thanks yoosah.
[05:06] <GaiaX11> papapep, suppose it is. So, do i ssh them like this: ssh 200.xxx.xxx.x (companyIP) username@10.xxx.xxx.x ????!!!
[05:06] <kar-tar> any way to reverse the function of caps lock and escape?
[05:06] <wweasel> i'm sure someone here knows this: Can I do windows key combinations using keyboard shortcuts?
[05:06] <kar-tar> (for vim)
[05:06] <ZarathustraDK> Heya, anybody know how to swithch sound-devices in Dapper? I don't see the multimedia-tab under preferences or administration?
[05:06] <ThePub> keyshawn, the reason is because there's no way for a floppy to "autodetect" when a floppy disappears on a standard pc.
[05:07] <Yoosah> wweasel: and read about xmodmap
[05:07] <col-panic> you can with xmodmap
[05:07] <gharz> honestly, i've reinstalled ubuntu for the 4th time now and yet it still doesn't play DVD and VCD. i've done the instruction from wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[05:07] <Fr0Gs> ok there back but i upgraded fglrx and it wont go back down to origanal how do i fix that :S
[05:07] <ThePub> keyshawn, unless of course you want to floppy firing off every few seconds 'seeking'  ^^
[05:07] <wweasel> col-panic, are you talking to me?
[05:07] <keyshawn> ThePub, aha.
[05:07] <col-panic> about key combos yeah
[05:07] <wweasel> thanks
[05:07] <Frogzoo> gharz: define "doesn't play" - what happens?
[05:07] <col-panic> im told xmodmap helps a lot.
[05:07] <col-panic> :>
[05:07] <Warbo> gharz: Have you tried a player specifically designed for DVD/VCDs (like ogle-gui)?
[05:08] <keyshawn> ThePub, thanks, i'm just going through my floppies and making boot disks.
[05:08] <ThePub> keyshawn, there used to be a floppy daemon, idk if it still exists though.
[05:08] <papapep> GaiaX11: You'd better ask the provider. If our friend doesn't have, as it seems, a public IP , they should give you advice about that.
[05:08] <Frogzoo> gharz: 1st off, have you install libdvdcss2 ?
[05:08] <keyshawn> (i know floppies aren't really in use, but i have a couple oldies with win3.1 and 95 on them.
[05:08] <gharz> Frogzoo, Warbo : Totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrom0'. There is no input plugin to handle the location of this movie.
[05:09] <gharz> that's the err msg.
[05:09] <col-panic> gharz: go to synaptic and download whatever plugin you need.
[05:09] <Warbo> I know AROS checks floppy drives every second on PCs to emulate the Amiga's floppy drive sensor (although the drive clicks every time which is annoying)
[05:09] <col-panic> that's the ubuntu solution for dependencies :>
[05:09] <usama> hi all
[05:09] <usama> i am trying to install/configure lamp from site (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28apache%29%7C%28mysql%29%7C%28php%29) when i gave command; sudo mysql -u root, i recieve this error; ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO),, can anyone help me?
[05:09] <Fr0Gs> ok there back but i upgraded fglrx and it wont go back down to origanal how do i fix that :S
[05:09] <gharz> my officemate and i installed ubuntu at the same time. we did the same follow the RestrictedFormats from wiki and frustratingly mine doesn't play.
[05:09] <Warbo> gharz: Then don't use Totem :)
[05:09] <papapep> gharz: Have you tried with VLC (Videolan)?
[05:09] <Frogzoo> gharz: you need to change totem's path to /dev/dvd   (from the looks of things, I'm guessing mind)
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Warbo,  same as the original amigas! :P
[05:09] <gharz> Frogzoo, ok... let me check the path.
[05:10] <gharz> Frogzoo, from fstab right?
[05:10] <Warbo> Dr_Willis: But you just put ClickNot in WBStartup :)
[05:10] <ZarathustraDK> Heya, anybody know how to swithch sound-devices in Dapper? I don't see the multimedia-tab under preferences or administration? Trying to run Half-Life 2 with cedega, it runs but stutters alot, so I need to change to alsa or something.
[05:10] <col-panic> gxine is preety leet, if ya ask me.
[05:10] <ThePub> Will the gstreamer faad plugin allow me to play iTunes songs w/o manually decrypting them?
[05:10] <brandon_> keyshawn, do you think little brother is going to be an impovement over bledsoe?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Warbo,  yep - the good old days
[05:10] <Frogzoo> usama: don't use root - use a different user
[05:10] <Frogzoo> gharz: no - within totem
[05:10] <gharz> Warbo, papapep col-panic : i've used most video players and it doesn't work. i've even changed the regionset. :(
[05:10] <ThePub> ZarathustraDK, default setup?  System -> Preferences -> sound
[05:10] <gharz> Frogzoo, ok... let me check on that.
[05:10] <hastesaver> kar-tar, http://vim.sourceforge.net/tips/tip.php?tip_id=285 :)
[05:11] <usama> Frogzoo, nice nick :) ok lemme check
[05:11] <papapep> gharz: Then perhaps its a hard incompatibility....
[05:11] <col-panic> gharz: it took me hours to figure out why i couldnt play mp3s
[05:11] <GaiaX11> papapep, h3sp4wn, dbernar1 , Frogzoo. Many thanks!
[05:11] <col-panic> then I downloaded libmad+libid3tag etc and I was fine.
[05:11] <papapep> Hard, meaning hardware
[05:11] <kar-tar> thanks hastesaver
[05:11] <ThePub> ZarathustraDK, idk if that's the best way of doing it though :D  I'm still feebling tinkering with my only multiple sound cards.. somewhat of a hassle ;)
[05:11] <usama> Frogzoo, no, still the same error
[05:11] <col-panic> it's a dependency problem, trust me. just poke around in synaptic and find the dependencies for the file type you wanna play.
[05:12] <Frogzoo> gharz: doesn't seem to be an option to change it...
[05:12] <keyshawn> brandon_ it'll be tough to see.
[05:12] <col-panic> at least you have synaptic, some people have to google for dependencies, myself in cluded :[
[05:12] <keyshawn> hehe, props to you to pick up on the reference.
[05:12] <keyshawn> almost no one does.
[05:12] <J0s3ph> Hello. Does anyone know where the GAIM configuration is kept?
[05:12] <jani_> i just followed the instructions on the "restricted formats" .. everything works fine
[05:12] <J0s3ph> I'd like to back it up.
[05:12] <gharz> Frogzoo, somebody just gave me an idea and it might have helped.
[05:12] <brandon_> keyshawn, i haven't seen him throw a really good pass yet
[05:12] <gharz> Frogzoo, but it didn't.
[05:12] <Frogzoo> J0s3ph: ~/.gaim at a guess
[05:13] <ThePub> J0s3ph, ~/.gaim
[05:13] <ZarathustraDK> ThePub, nah I mean switching whether or not to use alsa, esd, OSS and so forth, I'm not thinking about switching out my soundcard :)
[05:13] <J0s3ph> i see
[05:13] <hastesaver> kar-tar, read the whole page, BTW; there are some simpler solutions after the main tip
[05:13] <J0s3ph> does the $ mean hidden?
[05:13] <ThePub> ZarathustraDK, oh, my bad then :)  idk, yet ;)
[05:14] <usama> can anyone help me about that lamp's mysql error?
[05:14] <keyshawn> brandon_ i haven't paid much attention over the past couple seasons, been busy due to school. :/
[05:14] <ZarathustraDK> Ah ok found it, had to enable it with Alacarte menu editor
[05:14] <hastesaver> J0s3ph, the dot (/period/full stop/ . ) means hidden
[05:15] <kar-tar> yeah, this is good stuff... this kind of thing might make even emacs usable ;-p
[05:15] <J0s3ph> hastesaver:  i see. thanks.
[05:15] <col-panic> ~./wine is a pita
[05:15] <jadacyrus> when the hell are they gonna release a flash player 8 or 9 for linux? I can't view half the flash content i come across
[05:16] <VolVE> hey all, does the Dapper 6.06 Server install disc come wtih LVM support? I was a little confused as to the Alternate install disc and whether that was for servers or not..
[05:16] <kar-tar> anyone else view not having flash as a plus?
[05:16] <hastesaver> jadacyrus, really? example?
[05:16] <jadacyrus> example: http://www.tribecafilmfestival.org/tixSYS/2006/filmguide/event_np_trailer.php?EventNumber=1903
[05:16] <kar-tar> it seems to be most commonly used to make ads more annoying
[05:17] <jadacyrus> Im talking about useful content to me, im not talking about ads.
[05:17] <jadacyrus> i always get "you must upgrade to flash player 8"
[05:17] <jadacyrus> so annoying.
[05:17] <kar-tar> hmmmm... i hate to say it, but my advice to someone working in media would be "don't use linux"
[05:18] <jadacyrus> gar!
[05:18] <jadacyrus> any ideas as to when macromedia is going to grace us with another flash release?
[05:18] <hastesaver> kar-tar, unless you're working with only your *own* media, and not media in stupid formats that others have made.
[05:18] <kar-tar> 3rd parties aren't supporting it the way they are windows and mac
[05:19] <kar-tar> you just wind up doing their work for them
[05:19] <dooglus> Warbo: 'sudo' really does run things as the 'root' user, not some seaparate 'super user' account
[05:19] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i found a REALLY nice splash screen on gnome-look.org, and would like to use it, how do i change the original splash screen with thing one ?
[05:19] <bootlick> How do i install the Kernel source?
[05:19] <bootlick> trying to use a make command, and its asking for the kernel source
[05:19] <Frogzoo> !tell wubrgamer about themes
[05:19] <cyne> how do i know what graphics card my laptop has?
[05:20] <wubrgamer> thank you
[05:20] <Tobberoth> bootlick you probably need to download the open kernel source
[05:20] <kar-tar> manufacturer's webpage
[05:20] <Frogzoo> cyne: u look what it says on the box
[05:20] <bootlick> open kernel source on synaptic?
[05:20] <cyne> Frogzoo: i bought it second hand :(
[05:20] <Tobberoth> bootlick: I don't know what the package is called unfortunately :(
[05:20] <VolVE> Anyone know if 6.06 Server install has LVM ?
[05:20] <kar-tar> there's still a webpage, cyne
[05:20] <Tobberoth> I downloaded it some days ago myself to compile a driver.
[05:20] <jryer> How do I run php on the command line in Terminal? (I am trying to import a wiki database xml using: php maintenance\importDump.php < maintenance\temp.xml)
[05:20] <Frogzoo> cyne: sudo lspci
[05:21] <cyne> thanks
[05:21] <bootlick> okay, thanks, at least i know its something i have to download
[05:21] <keyshawn> cyne, or go to system>device manager
[05:21] <keyshawn> if you'd like a GUI
[05:22] <mpmc> jryer,  Install the php-cli package
[05:22] <Roconda> how can I fix my sound ?
[05:22] <Roconda> cause us doesnt work
[05:22] <cyne> ahh it's intel :)
[05:22] <sean> How can I download a larger than 4G file with amule?
[05:22] <col-panic> Roconda: what kinda card?
[05:22] <Roconda> uhmm a 97`
[05:23] <Roconda> onbroad
[05:23] <col-panic> try 'modprobe ac97*'
[05:23] <gavagai> i couldn't get 97 onboard to work on 6.06 either
[05:23] <gharz> Frogzoo, Warbo : i still can't play DVD/VCD. when i open it from nautilus... since the file is .dat, under the type column, it says 'plain text document'... does it matter?
[05:23] <dooglus> bootlick: "linux-source" on synaptic
[05:23] <gavagai> but i have no answer for you unfortunately... i just stuck another card in it
[05:23] <col-panic> if that works, you'll have to add the line 'modprobe ac97*' and 'depmod -a' to etc/rc.d/rc.local
[05:23] <Roconda> I crashed before the upgrade
[05:23] <raf_k> hi :)
[05:24] <Roconda> tim@localhost:~$ modprobe ac97*
[05:24] <Roconda> FATAL: Module ac97* not found.
[05:24] <gharz> i open it using Open With... the same problem.
[05:24] <col-panic> hm
[05:24] <col-panic> try ac*
[05:24] <col-panic> see if that works.
[05:24] <wubrgamer> hey guys, does ext3 need defragging ? like ntfs ?
[05:24] <dooglus> bootlick: "kernel-source" is the 2.4 kernel
[05:24] <Roconda> k
[05:24] <Roconda> tim@localhost:~$ modprobe ac*
[05:24] <Roconda> FATAL: Module ac* not found.
[05:24] <col-panic> nah, ext3 > ntfs on so many levels
[05:24] <vesperofshadow> got the printer to work. Just installed the driver from /usr/share/ppd and was able to select it. Thanks for the help all
[05:24] <col-panic> eww
[05:24] <raf_k> sb here who could help with lirc problems?^^
[05:24] <col-panic> apparently ubuntu doesnt like your card, it doesnt like mine either.
[05:24] <Roconda> Sec, gonna grap my mainboard book :p
[05:24] <col-panic> heh
[05:25] <sean> hello, somebody please help me?
[05:25] <gavagai> i had to install breezy and then upgrade to dapper to get sound at all...
[05:25] <gavagai> breezy installer worked automagically on my hardware, dapper worked live but not as real install
[05:25] <col-panic> Im scared of dapper
[05:25] <dooglus> sean: what's the problem?  there shouldn't be any 4Gb limit
[05:25] <Tobberoth> gavigai that sounds odd
[05:25] <gavagai> very odd indeed
[05:25] <Tobberoth> if it works as live it should work installed
[05:26] <gavagai> yeah it was a huge pain in the ass
[05:26] <col-panic> i wanna try xubuntu as a backup os, but there's no shipit on xubuntu :|
[05:26] <ThePub> dapper caused my machine to continuously hard lock after upgrading.  was able to solve the issue easily enough though.
[05:26] <col-panic> xfce>gnome
[05:26] <zenit> gavagai: what kind of soundcard?
[05:26] <gavagai> one of those crappy integrated ac97 deals
[05:26] <dooglus> col-panic: xfce = gnome * 0.73
[05:26] <Roconda> cant find my book
[05:26] <Tobberoth> I've only tried GNOME.. might try kubuntu next time
[05:26] <col-panic> uhh. xfce isnt gnome :|
[05:26] <gharz> col-panic, i've just installed xubuntu this morning but, in my opinion, it wasn't good. i had problem downloading files from net.
[05:26] <Frogzoo> gharz: consider gxine? i don't use totem, so can't help with that
[05:27] <sean> dooglus: you mean amule should can download a file.that larger than 4G. in reiserfs file system?
[05:27] <col-panic> gharz: I'll make a note of that :)
[05:27] <zenit> gavagai: that's oki, but the term ac97 is quite broad and is not just one chipset.
[05:27] <Roconda> damn I hate it without sound :(
[05:27] <dooglus> sean: reiserfs can handle files >4Gb for sure
[05:27] <AngryElf> guys, i'm trying to install a printer -- in the wizard there's a "Install driver" button -- do I have to go through that and find the driver or is that just for installing other drivers?
[05:27] <zenit> I actually had some problems with a realtek chipset, but dapper solved it.
[05:27] <dooglus> sean: I don't know much about aMule, other than that I stopped using it about a year ago.
[05:27] <gharz> col-panic, then i switched back to ubuntu again for the 4th time.
[05:27] <gharz> col-panic, but playing DVD/VCD is giving me terrible headaches.
[05:27] <gavagai> i disabled it and then installed an ensoniq es1370
[05:28] <col-panic> gharz: using gxine?
[05:28] <col-panic> with the dependencies, it's awesome.
[05:28] <Tobberoth> I have some pretty odd errors in ubuntu.. for some reason, my monitor dies at times because of the nvidia driver
[05:28] <Tobberoth> it "goes to sleep" constantly
[05:28] <sean> dooglus: oh.  what P2P software are you using how?
[05:28] <dooglus> sean: I use Azureus now
[05:28] <dooglus> sean: it's a bittorrent client
[05:28] <raf_k> any lirc cracks around? :P
[05:28] <col-panic> bt ftw :)
[05:29] <AngryElf> lirc cracks?
[05:29] <Tobberoth> Azureus sucks :/ uTorrent is awesome, but probably doesn't work in wine
[05:29] <gavagai> dapper also would only do 640x480 with my videocard while breezy would do better resolution... though i also swapped a different video card so i'm not even using any of the problematic hardware now
[05:29] <dooglus> sean: it's like the edonkey network, but without the queues
[05:29] <col-panic> there's a limewire binary for my distro *clap*
[05:29] <Tobberoth> col-panic: Frostwire works just as well
[05:29] <dooglus> Tobberoth: Azureus doesn't suck at all
[05:29] <Tobberoth> dooglus: Yes it does.
[05:29] <Tobberoth> It's a memory hog.
[05:29] <col-panic> but bt means you gotta get multiple files, sometimes I want one :)
[05:29] <dooglus> Tobberoth: why do you say that?
[05:29] <Tobberoth> It takes almost 100 times as much memory as uTorrent
[05:29] <sean> dooglus: I use bittorrent-console. It's very good. Do you only use Azureus?
[05:30] <Kibou> bittorrent is nothing like the edonkey network..
[05:30] <dooglus> sean: I prefer Azureus to bittorrent-console purely for its dht support.
[05:30] <void^> Tobberoth: utorrent uses 1mb? amazing :] 
[05:30] <Tobberoth> void^: That's right.
[05:30] <dooglus> sean: if the tracker goes down, bittorrent-console stops working, whereas Azureus carries on working, thanks to dht
[05:31] <Tobberoth> That's why it's called microtorrent, duh :)
[05:31] <Roconda> anyone who know how I can fix my sound card ?
[05:31] <dooglus> utorrent is windows only, and closed source
[05:31] <dooglus> both of those, IMHO, make it suck
[05:31] <Tobberoth> dooglus: I know :(
[05:31] <unclean1> could anyone answer this please? why is it whenever I try to take a sceenshot, I get "unable to save screenshot to disk: Value for PNG text chunk CREATOR cannot be converted to ISO-8859-1 encoding"?
[05:31] <dooglus> Azureus, on the other hand, is open source, and cross platform
[05:32] <Kibou> and uses shitty java
[05:32] <HellDragon> keep it civil Kibou .... or he will
[05:32] <Tobberoth> dooglus: Being open source doesn't make a program good, it just makes the developers awesome ;)
[05:32] <dooglus> true.  it uses shitty java, and only really works properly if you use Sun's shitty jvm
[05:32] <Kibou> yes..
[05:32] <Frogzoo> Kibou - that's a matter of opinion
[05:32] <Kibou> it is
[05:32] <dooglus> Tobberoth: I didn't say it did.  but being closed source makes it suck :)
[05:33] <Megant> Hi
[05:33] <AngryElf> how do i set up my printer to be shared to other ubuntu clients?
[05:33] <gharz> oh god... i can't make my system play DVD/VCD ... i'm getting frustrated.
[05:33] <gharz> :(
[05:33] <Seveas> dooglus, could you please keep the language a bit family friendly
[05:33] <Megant> I just bought new flat monitor.
[05:34] <Megant> And my xorg allows only 640x480 resolution.
[05:34] <dooglus> Seveas: sure.
[05:34] <Megant> And I have nvidia card
[05:34] <bootlick> Where do i find the kernel sources to let me use the make command to compile somthing?
[05:34] <Seveas> gharz, totem-xine and w32codecs should get you started
[05:34] <dooglus> bootlick: install 'build-essential' to get 'make'
[05:34] <Seveas> bootlick, which driver?
[05:34] <Megant> It says like this "(WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1280x1024"; removing.
[05:34] <dooglus> bootlick: install 'linux-source' to get the kernel sources
[05:34] <gharz> bootlick, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[05:34] <dooglus> bootlick: you don't need kernel sources to run make though
[05:35] <Seveas> dooglus, neither do you need them for compiling drivers 
[05:35] <Megant> Do you know about this problem?
[05:35] <gharz> Seveas, i've already installed the latest versions... i've followed the instructions from wiki.ubuntu restricted formats. it doesn't work.
[05:35] <Kibou> Megant: you probably have to set the right HorizSync/VertRefresh values on your corg.conf
[05:35] <Seveas> !tell Megant about nvidia
[05:35] <Kibou> in* xorg.conf*
[05:35] <dooglus> Seveas: you probably need the kernel headers to compile drivers.  not sure about the whole sources.
[05:35] <Seveas> Megant, libdvdcss2 too?
[05:36] <Seveas> dooglus, exactly 
[05:36] <Megant> What?
[05:36] <profoXP> The Logout dialog thing (logout, sleep, restart, switch user, shutdown..) is it in gnome by default lately, or is it something that Ubuntu added?
[05:36] <sean> dooglus: what speed have you got ,when you dowloading with Azureus?
[05:36] <Megant> My resolution is just so small
[05:36] <Seveas> profoXP, the Ubuntu logout dialog is ubuntu-specific
[05:36] <dooglus> sean: it saturates my network connection if I let it.
[05:36] <Seveas> Megant, ubotu told you something in a private message
[05:36] <col-panic> profoXP that's a Gnome thing
[05:36] <dooglus> sean: I use a USB1.1 network connection, and I get around 700Kb/s download with it
[05:36] <col-panic> it's alike that on all distros
[05:36] <profoXP> Seveas, col-panic, eh?
[05:36] <Seveas> col-panic, no
[05:37] <Juhaz> profoXP, ubuntu. gnome has a new logout dialog too, in 2.14 but it's quite different
[05:37] <Seveas> ubuntu has a home-grown logout dialog
[05:37] <profoXP> col-panic, it's not like that on Archlinux
[05:37] <col-panic> it is on RH+fbsd+ubuntu+suse
[05:37] <jani_> Megant, you need to set the right HorizSync/VertRefresh on your xorg.conf
[05:37] <col-panic> :|
[05:37] <dooglus> sean: depending on the torrent, of course.  if it's well-seeded, then it goes faster than if it isn't
[05:37] <Megant> Well, I try that.
[05:37] <Seveas> col-panic, it is NOT.
[05:37] <col-panic> the 'start'shutdown' thing is on those distros sir.
[05:37] <dooglus> sean: it makes a huge difference if you set up the port forwarding to allow people to connect to you.  a lot of people don't.
[05:37] <Jowi> the latest upgrade cleared the song list in rhythmbox. have to re-import all the albums again, ack!
[05:38] <col-panic> kick me if you wanna have a hissyfit.
[05:38] <Megant> Resolution 640x480 works..
[05:38] <profoXP> Seveas, why doesnt KDE/Kubuntu use the same logout dialog ?
[05:38] <AngryElf> how do i set up my printer to be shared amongst other ubuntu clients?  -- any how-to's on this? the wiki is all about breezy
[05:38] <sean> dooglus:my got. my speed is only 200kB/s.highest
[05:38] <dabbler> Megant: did you install nvidia-glx ?
[05:38] <Seveas> profoXP, good question, you should ask the kubuntu developers
[05:38] <dooglus> sean: there's a similar thing with aMule I think - I forget what they call it - lowId, maybe?
[05:38] <Megant> dabbler: it worked before, its about my new flat monitor
[05:39] <simonpca> Hi
[05:39] <nootrope> i have two questions, please: which IRC client do you recommend (i'm using xchat)? and, how can i find out the default location where applications save files. Fro example, Sound Recorder doesn't prompt for anything and just saves files...somewhere.
[05:39] <profoXP> Seveas, alright
[05:39] <sean> dooglus: Yes. but I have a highID
[05:39] <dooglus> sean: I got 700Kb/s downloading the ubuntu 6.06 alternate i386 iso
[05:39] <siccness> nootrope, I use irssi.
[05:39] <simonpca> nootrope, Xchat is good
[05:39] <Seveas> nootrope, I prefer xchat, and programs that don't ask usually use your homedir
[05:39] <Mikelo> !flash
[05:39] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:39] <nootrope> thanks siccness
[05:39] <neutrinomass> If a package suggests hotplug, is it a bug ?
[05:39] <siccness> nootrope, Keep in mind that irssi is cli.
[05:39] <Jowi> Megant: try this: in xorg.conf, set the vertrefresh to 60 and comment out the horiz one. see if that does it for you.
[05:39] <dabbler> did you --> nvidia-xconfig
[05:39] <simonpca> i have some problems resizing my / partition with qtparted
[05:40] <simonpca> in fact
[05:40] <nootrope> thank you simonpca and Seveas
[05:40] <simonpca> when I right-click on it
[05:40] <Seveas> neutrinomass, minor buglet, not worth filing
[05:40] <nootrope> cli?
[05:40] <sean> dooglus: which country are you in ?
[05:40] <simonpca> i don't have the 'resize' option
[05:40] <siccness> command-line-interface
[05:40] <dooglus> sean: .cz
[05:40] <gavagai> nootrope, irssi is terminal, no graphics
[05:40] <siccness> I'm actually using xchat at the moment :P
[05:40] <sean> dooglus: I am in china
[05:40] <neutrinomass> Seveas: Then I'll just file it as "Minor" or wish-list ;)
[05:40] <gavagai> no point and drool
[05:40] <nootrope> ah, thanks.that's not a prob
[05:40] <nootrope> gavagai, i see thanks
[05:41] <gavagai> :)
[05:41] <dooglus> sean: can you download from sites outside china faster than 200Kb/s?
[05:41] <vinboy> wat is this Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] 
[05:41] <patrick__> hi
[05:41] <sean> dooglus: No
[05:41] <patrick__> does anyone know how to restore something back to desktop
[05:41] <dooglus> vinboy: it means the patch looks like it has already been applied.  do you want to assume the patch was made backwards?
[05:41] <patrick__> from the trash folder
[05:41] <Seveas> patrick__, just drag and drop it to the desktop
[05:41] <neutrinomass> vinboy: It's either that the patch has been applied, or it was incorrectly made.
[05:41] <dooglus> vinboy: probably the patch wasn't made backwards, and you should answer 'n'
[05:42] <patrick__> thanx seveas
[05:42] <vinboy> oh ic
[05:42] <patrick__> i ll try
[05:42] <simonpca> j #parted
[05:42] <vinboy> thanks guys
[05:42] <sean> dooglus: I have just installed Azureus. but it doesn't work
[05:42] <dooglus> sean: you have the sun java vm?
[05:43] <wild> can sameboby help me with tv8251 and sata?
[05:43] <dooglus> sean: package 'sun-java5-jre' in dapper
[05:43] <wild> i'm not able to install ubuntu 6.06
[05:43] <wild> :(
[05:43] <sean> dooglus: yes , I have it installed. I use matlab ,with java gui
[05:43] <wild> *vt8251
[05:43] <nootrope> Seveas: seems that Sound Recorder didn't save to my home dir. there are many hidden folders but none have Sound Recorder in their names. I know there's a grep command to ls subfolders but haven't been able to make it work for me. if i want to search all subdirs for *.ogg, what's the syntax?
[05:43] <dooglus> sean: so tell me more about this "doesn't work" thing.  any specifics?
[05:44] <Seveas> nootrope, find ~ -name '*ogg'
[05:44] <nootrope> Seveas: thanks!
[05:44] <wild> help :(
[05:44] <wild> tell me how-to installa ubuntu with vt8251
[05:44] <Seveas> nootrope, the find command is insanely useful and powerful 
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> Anyone know how to remove all the alsa modules safely and reinsert them ?
[05:45] <sean> dooglus: a lot of  information about java.for example
[05:45] <Mikelo> sean, how do u use matlab?
[05:45] <noise4poor> !help
[05:45] <dooglus> nootrope: -name '*.ogg' would be better - else it will find "frogg"
[05:45] <sean> Mikelo: type matlab in console
[05:45] <Seveas> dooglus, true, but then again, froggs are evil 
[05:45] <sean> dooglus: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.gudy.azureus2.update.UpdaterPatcher not found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:/usr/share/java/swt-gtk-3.1.jar,file:./,file:/usr/share/java/Azureus2.jar,file:./] , parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[] , parent=null}}
[05:45] <dooglus> Seveas: only blue ones
[05:45] <sean>    at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)
[05:45] <sean>    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String, boolean) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)
[05:45] <sean>    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)
[05:45] <sean>    at org.gudy.azureus2.pluginsimpl.local.PluginInitializer.loadPluginFromDir(java.io.File) (Unknown Source)
[05:45] <nootrope> Seveas: i see. didn't know about it. (thanks dooglus)
[05:45] <dooglus> sean: now you're in trouble!
[05:46] <vinboy> what happen if I answer N to this (Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n]  )?
[05:46] <echostorm> is there a quick way to disable cdroms and other partition icons from the desktop
[05:46] <daxxar> Hrm. Rythmbox seems to ignore the 'Shuffle'-setting
[05:46] <daxxar> Just goes linearly no matter if it's on.
[05:46] <aLPHa2> vinboy: just press enter
[05:46] <neutrinomass> vinboy: It tries to apply the patch anyway, which is not neccessarily a good thing. Can you please pastebin the patch somewhere ?
[05:46] <just_> enter
[05:46] <dooglus> nootrope: also, "find ~ -type f -name '*.ogg'" is better still - otherwise it would find directories as well as files if you had any *.ogg dirs
[05:46] <Mikelo> sean, bash: matlab: command not found
[05:47] <noise4poor> did anyone here made work ati graphic work under ubuntu?
[05:47] <vinboy> neutrinomass: i'm trying to patch reiser4
[05:47] <vinboy> support
[05:47] <Seveas> !tell noise4poor about ati
[05:47] <neutrinomass> vinboy: 1. You do know that reiser4 is quite experimental still, right? 2. Are you using the correct patch, against the correct kernel sources ?
[05:48] <VolVE> Hey all, installing 6.06 Server, the installer seems to be stuck on the "Configuring man-db..." step, been there for over a minute... any ideas? :-/
[05:48] <rodrigo1> hi there ! I got a problem with my Xserver when updating from Breeze to Dapper on a i810 + 1024x768 LCD laptop screen setup. The live CD works well when indicating 1024x768x16 on the boot options, but the installed version just gives me a black screen when X start. I tried copying the xorg.conf form the live cd session to the harddisk, nothing. My question is: when the live CD starts the X server it seems that the screen changes two or thr
[05:48] <vinboy> neutrinomass: maybe not using the correct path.... but when I try to patch my kernel from 2.6.16.18 to 2.6.16.19, same thing happen
[05:48] <rodrigo1> thanks for your support.
[05:48] <dooglus> vinboy: if you say 'n', it skips that patch
[05:48] <Seveas> VolVE, just wait. some configure commands take a while
[05:48] <noise4poor> tell me about ati under ubuntu
[05:49] <VolVE> Seveas: I'm being patient, just seems an odd one... :)
[05:49] <noise4poor> !
[05:49] <ubotu> noise4poor: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:49] <Mikelo> whereis sean?
[05:49] <Mikelo> !seen sean
[05:49] <gratefulfrog>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY cinewig
[05:49] <ubotu> sean <n=sean@218.80.252.209> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 3m 23s ago, saying: '   at org.gudy.azureus2.pluginsimpl.local.PluginInitializer.loadPluginFromDir(java.io.File) (Unknown Source)'.
[05:49] <liquoredonlife> I found 9 matches to your query. Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): sean antinobody Seantater RedEyess magician. Mikelo, sean (n=sean@218.80.252.209) was last seen leaving #ubuntu 3minutes 21seconds ago.
[05:49] <noise4poor> thnx
[05:49] <dooglus> Mikelo: Seveas made him leave
[05:49] <Seveas> gratefulfrog, /msg nickserv set password new_password
[05:49] <Mikelo> dooglus, how do i use matlab in ubuntu?
[05:49] <vinboy> dooglus: oh ic... alrite thx
[05:49] <s|k> !xgl
[05:49] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:49] <dooglus> Mikelo: I don't know.  Is it free?
[05:50] <mbn> hello, what image i need to download to have live cd ?
[05:50] <Seveas> mbn, desktop cd
[05:50] <Mikelo> dooglus, i didnt think so either
[05:50] <mbn> thanks
[05:50] <dooglus> Mikelo: 17:45 -!- sean [n=sean@218.80.252.209]  has left #ubuntu [requested by Seveas] 
[05:50] <Megant> Well, I set Vertical Refresh to 60 but anything doesn't change
[05:51] <dooglus> Mikelo: you can /msg sean though if you like - but he might not be able to /msg back.  you have to be registered to /msg on freenode
[05:51] <Mikelo> dooglus, tnx
[05:51] <Jowi> Megant: did you comment out the horiz?
[05:51] <nootrope> great dooglus! yeah, i got lots of directories until i did that. BTW, Seveas, Sound Recorder seems to save in the tmp directory by default.
[05:51] <Megant> Jowi: There is no horiz things
[05:51] <dooglus> nootrope: you really have directories called <something>.ogg?
[05:51] <rodrigo1> megant: you have to add it yourself
[05:51] <nanenj> I've been dinking with my gdm.conf file (specifically adding Xgl) and I've messed with both gdm.conf and gdm.conf-custom.   They were working, but, as I've tried to finalize the setup and make it 'work' the way I want with (gdmflexiserver) for some reason it's started giving me a fatal error unrecognized option vt7
[05:52] <echostorm> hmmn. this is actually alot more difficult than I thought to find out. basically, I have an automount partition and the filesystem icon is on my desktop. I would rather it and my cdrom icons never appear when i insert a disk. Is there a easy way to do this?
[05:52] <nanenj> I've turned off autovtallocation and firstvt
[05:52] <dooglus> nootrope: using '-type f' will only find files - it will miss out any symlinks to files.  you could "'!' -type d" if you just want to skip directories
[05:52] <Megant> rodrigo1: but he said to comment it out so...
[05:52] <nanenj> but, it still gives that error.... so, what part of gdm.conf is telling it to append vt7 to my commandline for Xgl?
[05:52] <Jowi> Megant: so you just added "VertRefresh 60" to the monitor section?
[05:52] <rodrigo1> megant: ohhh so, it should be ok
[05:52] <Megant> Jowi: Yes.
[05:52] <nootrope> dooglus: no, but i still get a bunch of dirs...wait they all have Permission denied appended to them. probably because i didn't run find with sudo?
[05:53] <KuLover> Anyone know how to set up a USE Mic?
[05:53] <KuLover> USB**
[05:53] <Jowi> Megant: good. LCD panels does not need horiz and all of them I've seen support 60 in Vertrefresh. might be the videocard driver
[05:53] <kevinz> hello. How can i check the build/configure information for some software under ubuntu, for example, gaim
[05:53] <simonpca> !qtparted
[05:53] <ubotu> simonpca: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:53] <Megant> Jowi: I think so.
[05:54] <simonpca> !parted
[05:54] <ubotu> hmm... parted is a GNU program for creating, destroying, resizing, checking and copying partitions.  http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html
[05:54] <Jowi> Megant: you can try to use the vesa driver.
[05:54] <boricua> where in the filesystem can i see packages already installed
[05:54] <Megant> Jowi: Ok, I will
[05:54] <Rede_> i installed k3b from src, but there were issues, so i uninstalled it. now i dont have it at all, and can't reinstall via apt. is there a way to get apt-get to install something even if it (falsely) believes it is already installed?
[05:54] <Jowi> Megant: ...just to see if that works before switching to the "real" one
[05:54] <dooglus> nootrope: those are errors, not outputs.  you can throw the errors away if you want:  "find ~ -type f -name '*.ogg" 2> /dev/null
[05:54] <dooglus> nootrope: why do you have directories inside your home which you can't open?
[05:54] <jani_> boricua, run synaptic, then click on the "Status" Tab
[05:55] <Smirnov> Are you supposed to "Start or install Ubuntu" option to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06?
[05:55] <boricua> i dont want to see it synaptic  where in the FS can i see it
[05:55] <nanenj> Smirnov, unfortunately, you can't upgrade 5.10 to 6.06 with the desktop cd.
[05:55] <nootrope> dooglus: i searched / because i wasn't finding anything useful in ~ :)
[05:55] <dooglus> nootrope: if you want to search the whole disk, you'll find "locate" is a lot faster
[05:55] <Smirnov> nanenj: huh ????
[05:55] <nanenj> Smirnov, you need the alternate install cd in order to perform an upgrade.
[05:55] <Smirnov> what
[05:55] <Smirnov> are you serious
[05:55] <nanenj> Smirnov, You can't upgrade Breezy Bradger to Dapper Drake with the desktop CD.
[05:55] <dooglus> nootrope: "locate" uses a database which is only refreshed once a day, so it will miss any files you've got since the last update (usually 6:30am I think)
[05:56] <nootrope> dooglus: ah! locate, find and grep :scribbles a note to self:
[05:56] <nanenj> Smirnov, completely serious.  A slight overlook if I do say so myself.
[05:56] <ressaca> Anyone know where's I can download drivers for marvel wireless lan (ENLWI-G)?
[05:56] <Smirnov> wtf?
[05:56] <Smirnov> i just went to "download" and ubuntu 6.06
[05:56] <rodrigo1> nanenj: Smirnov:
[05:56] <dooglus> nootrope: to refresh locate's database: "sudo updatedb"
[05:56] <Smirnov> thats the desktop cd?
[05:56] <nootrope> dooglus: soit wouldn't've found this file, then.
[05:56] <dooglus> nootrope: (since you've got the notepad out already)
[05:56] <nootrope> aha
[05:56] <Smirnov> where the hell do I find the right cd then
[05:56] <rodrigo1>  nanenj: Smirnov: doing apt-cdrom and apt-get dist-upgrade would not work ?
[05:56] <Megant> Hmm
[05:56] <nootrope> dooglus: thanks this is all really helpful
[05:56] <Smirnov> i dont know, whats the best way of upgrading from 5.10 ?
[05:57] <nanenj> rodrigo, hrm... I honestly don't know. I just know what I've read when I was looking at the upgrade info on the ubuntu site.
[05:57] <zexr0> what would be the device of the keyboard ?
[05:57] <nanenj> Smirnov, some people have had luck with using update-manager -d and letting it do it.
[05:57] <Megant> Now GDM shows everything right, but it crashes when I log in
[05:57] <dooglus> nootrope: locate -r '[.] ogg$'
[05:57] <Rede_> i installed k3b from src, but there were issues, so i uninstalled it. now i dont have it at all, and can't reinstall via apt. is there a way to get apt-get to install something even if it (falsely) believes it is already installed?
[05:57] <myworld122> hi...can anyone help me on how to install widget programs (like konfabulator for windows)?
[05:57] <nanenj> Smirnov, unfortunately, for me, that crashed and said something about invalid package information, unable to find ubuntu-base
[05:57] <nootrope> dooglus: gottcha
[05:57] <Smirnov> nanenj: ok so where can I find the upgrade cd
[05:57] <dr_willis> myworld122,  karamba/superkaramba or gdesklets
[05:58] <myworld122> thanks dr_willis
[05:58] <nanenj> Smirnov, I believe it's called 'alternate' and is listed amongst the rest of them... I can't look right now cause I'm having issues with Xgl and unable to get a gui up :P
[05:58] <spikeb> you dont need a cd to upgrade though
[05:59] <dooglus> Smirnov: you can upgrade on-line - run the update manager and it should offer to upgrade to dapper for you.
[05:59] <nanenj> spikeb's partially right, like I said, some people have luck with the update scripts.
[05:59] <zexr0> what would be the device of the keyboard ?
[05:59] <KuLover> Anyone know how to set up a USB Mic?
[05:59] <Smirnov> no i dont want to risk that
[05:59] <nanenj> Smirnov, any update's a risk :)
[05:59] <nanenj> It's kinda inevitable that -something- will break.
[06:00] <spikeb> it's no different than trying to upgrade via cd
[06:00] <dooglus> I don't know why the upgrade to dapper has been so messy for so many.
[06:00] <vinboy> can this patch (patch-2.6.16-ck12.bz2) applied to kernel (2.6.16.18)?
[06:00] <spikeb> they both carry the same pitfalls
[06:00] <nanenj> spikeb, the alternate cd uses the same script?
[06:00] <myworld122> dr_willis: can superkaramba be used with gnome?
[06:00] <zexr0> what would be the device of the keyboard ?
[06:00] <dooglus> 'apt-get dist-upgrade' is famous for being trouble-free - until now :)
[06:00] <spikeb> nanenj: i'd imagine so, the installer uses apt just like the upgrade manager does
[06:00] <nanenj> I was under the impression that the script for upgrading (used when you do update-manager -d) was simply buggy. :P
[06:01] <dr_willis> myworld122,  proberly but proberly not a good idea.. personally i think they all suck. :P i like my wijdows all full screened. so *$*#@ on desktop-widgets
[06:01] <nanenj> I have to plead ignorance ^^; I went the easy route and just installed from scratch
[06:01] <spikeb> no, it's not the process that's buggy, it's the packages (and THEIR scripts)
[06:01] <Smirnov> until now?
[06:01] <dooglus> this may be a little off-topic, but does anyone know where I can find audio commentary of the world cup online?
[06:02] <nanenj> Smirnov, until Dapper 6.06 LTS, you could do apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade and it'd update fine without a single hitch
[06:02] <karim> I have a problem on dapper ppc when I dist-upgrade it installs 24 packages, but then after that if I redistupgrade it against wants to installs them
[06:02] <zexr0> what would be the device of the keyboard ?
[06:02] <dooglus> I've got pictures on the TV, but the commentators all speak some kind of bongo-bongo language
[06:02] <mattwestm> how can I get widgets like this http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3822/244/1600/my_desktop.png
[06:02] <nootrope> dooglus: univision.com (hah! it's in spanish!)
[06:02] <hid3> Evening everyone. Is there any way to force my bind9 not to listen on one specific IP but listen on all others?
[06:02] <spikeb> that is gdesklets
[06:02] <mattwestm> spikeb: thanks
[06:03] <boricua> in gnome where do u change themes?
[06:03] <Jowi> dooglus: I just go to the national radio channel (for web-radio) but unless you understand swedish ... mmmmm .... tough :)
[06:03] <dooglus> boricua: in the theme manager...
[06:03] <nanenj> This is gonna drive me insane... I turned autovtallocation off, but it's still trying to append VT# to my commandline for starting the server.
[06:03] <Smirnov> grr I'll just upgrade using aptget
[06:03] <Smirnov> how did you say I need to do that again
[06:03] <boricua> dooglus: what is the path?
[06:03] <dooglus> boricua: "gnome-theme-manager" from the command line - it's in the menus too somewhere, but I use XFCE, so I can't tell you where
[06:04] <boricua> i luv xfce haven
[06:04] <karim> I have a problem on dapper ppc when I dist-upgrade it installs 24 packages, but then after that if I redistupgrade it against wants to installs them
[06:04] <boricua> havent tried it on ubuntu yet
[06:04] <dooglus> "blah blah blah manchester united bongo bongo blah"
[06:04] <zexr0> what would be the device of the keyboard ?
[06:04] <nootrope> dooglus: hah!
[06:04] <betlit> :( i try to install ubuntu 6.06 but get endless "swap_dup: bad swap file entry" msgs right after the 'loading esswential drivers', etc. -part has passed... (x gets started (i see the mouse cursor))...
[06:04] <varsendaggr> ahh my dhcp   keeps resetting and it makes it unpossible to do anythign
[06:05] <dooglus> scorchio!
[06:05] <nanenj> Smirnov, If I remember right, you need to edit your sources changing breezy to dapper, then do apt-get update (to update package information) then apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:05] <heartinsnow> movie
[06:05] <dooglus> nanenj: that's spot on
[06:06] <gymsmoke> can anyone here give me a jumpstart with rcs ? i asked in #ubuntu-offtopic, but it seems to be dead atm
[06:06] <Rede_> i installed k3b from src, but there were issues, so i uninstalled it (make uninstall). now i dont have it at all, and can't reinstall via apt. is there a way to get apt-get to install something even if it (falsely) believes it is already installed?
[06:06] <nanenj> dooglus, thanks for the confirmation :) I'm still learning, if I do say something wrong, please correct me :)
[06:06] <dooglus> nanenj: the only thing I would add is make sure ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-desktop, or xubuntu-desktop, or ...) is installed first.
[06:06] <VolVE> Seveas: yeah, it's still at that same "Configuring man-db..." step... :-/
[06:06] <Eisofen> 'lo
[06:06] <nanenj> dooglus, good point, I believe that's what killed me during my upgrade.
[06:06] <dooglus> nanenj: oh, don't you worry about that.  that's my whole reason for being here :)
[06:06] <XVampireX> Hey
[06:06] <nanenj> dooglus, I'm -still- struggling with this gdm configuration issue, do you have any clue?
[06:06] <Seveas> VolVE, that sounds bad, kill it and try dpkg --configure -a
[06:07] <dooglus> nanenj: I missed your original question.  what's up?
[06:07] <XVampireX> Uhm, the CPU Usage randomly goes very high although I'm not doing anything
[06:07] <Smirnov> sounds like a hac
[06:07] <Smirnov> sounds like a hack*
[06:08] <XVampireX> ?
[06:08] <nanenj> dooglus, I'm playing with Xgl, when I had gdm.conf normal (nontouched) and all the xgl settings in gdm.conf-custom everything worked fine for the first x display.  But, I couldn't start another via gdmflexiserver
[06:08] <TLE> ati,gflrx question, must I use a dual-head configuration to clone to a TV ?
[06:08] <gymsmoke> anyone here worked with the odbc drivers in ubuntu?
[06:08] <XVampireX> Smirnov, You mean me?
[06:08] <Smirnov> i mean editing your sources sounds like ahack..
[06:08] <nanenj> So.  I migrated part of the options to gdm.conf, and then I -could- start a second x display.
[06:08] <nanenj> Seeing that success, I attempted to clean everything up and just move everything to gdm.conf, now it's trying to append a vt to my xgl command line
[06:08] <dooglus> nanenj: I've never tried using Xgl, 'cos my graphics card is half broken, and was bad to start with.  but gdmflexiserver works for me with default gdm config
[06:08] <nanenj> and I don't understand why.
[06:09] <nanenj> So, after all the background information, the issue is it editing the command line I gave it and appending vt7 when I've turned autovtallocation off :(
[06:09] <Smirnov> Is 6.06 dapper or breezey?
[06:09] <nanenj> Smirnov, 6.06 is Dapper
[06:09] <bluefoxicy> wtf lol!
[06:09] <bluefoxicy> if you put 'alias ls="ls --color"' into ~/.profile, gnome can't start
[06:10] <nanenj> I don't figure it'd hurt to just start over from scratch :P
[06:10] <bluefoxicy> your session just drops you into gnome-terminal and xsession-errors says "gnome-session couldn't start" or some such.
[06:10] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me? CPU Usage goes high randomly, even though I'm not doing anything
[06:10] <dooglus> nanenj: do you mean "gdm/custom.conf"?
[06:10] <Blissex> XVampireX: there can be loads of background dmons doing stuff...
[06:10] <Blissex> XVampireX: use 'top' to see what takes up the time.
[06:11] <nanenj> dooglus, that's where I started editing :) but was having problems with gdmflexiserver. (/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom)
[06:11] <VolVE> Seveas: how can I kill it when it's part of the install process?
[06:11] <Frogzoo> XVampireX: top should be able to find it
[06:11] <dooglus> nanenj: did you see http://www.gnome.org/projects/gdm/docs/2.14/configuration.html ?
[06:11] <nanenj> dooglus when I migrated everything to gdm.conf, it started appending vt7
[06:11] <nanenj> dooglus, nuhunh, I'll try to take a look :P -reverting changes right now-
[06:11] <Seveas> VolVE, ah, it's not an upgrade but you are installing Ubuntu right now?
[06:11] <boricua> !apt
[06:11] <ubotu> I heard apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[06:11] <VolVE> Seveas: correct :)
[06:11] <mikekarthur> can anyone tell me how to upgrade a Breezy installation to a Dapper one?
[06:11] <XVampireX> Frogzoo, Blissex, Xorg seems to be always on top
[06:11] <dooglus> nanenj: I don't think I can help you, but those docs might help.
[06:12] <mikekarthur> you can do it just using sources.list and dist-upgrade I think
[06:12] <gharz> guys, is there a command in linux where i can create a restore point (like in Windows)?
[06:12] <VolVE> Seveas: 6.06 Server i386 install CD
[06:12] <Blissex> XVampireX: thats fine, it takes time to draw things.
[06:12] <nanenj> dooglus, thanks :) I'll take a look :)
[06:12] <Seveas> VolVE, in that case I'd recommend rebooting, checking the cd and then restarting the install
[06:12] <mikekarthur> gharz: just backup our system
[06:12] <oni-dracula> anyone know why when GDM loads up for a login it's in 1024x768, then after logging in imy res becomes 1152x864
[06:12] <gharz> uhmmm.
[06:12] <Seveas> VolVE, with <alt><f4> (right now) you should be able to see more info
[06:12] <XVampireX> Blissex, *shrugs*
[06:12] <nanenj> gharz, I've not found anything quite like that.... but, being on dial-up, saving what packages I have is a great help... take a look on the ubuntu wiki for apt-move
[06:12] <Frogzoo> XVampireX: yes, but only 3% cpu or so
[06:12] <VolVE> hmm, gotcha
[06:12] <nanenj> It's helped me create package CDs so that when I reinstall, all my packages are right there to reinstall.
[06:12] <gharz> nanenj, thanks
[06:12] <VolVE> thanks Seveas
[06:13] <Blissex> XVampireX: however, perhaps your X config is using a slower generic driver like 'vesa' instead of a custom one.
[06:13] <nanenj> gharz, but, that won't save documents or customizations or anything, just kinda speeds the reinstall process when I do break something :P
[06:13] <pngwen> I had 2 dual ethernet nics installed in an ubuntu server.  I removed one, and now the other one is using eth2 and eth3.  The one I removed and the one still there use the same module.  How can I reassign the remaining card to eth0 and eth1?
[06:13] <Blissex> XVampireX: anyhow, lots of output (like fast scrolling in a terminal window) will take a lot of CPU.
[06:13] <gharz> nanenj, ok...
[06:13] <Megant> So what is the problem because my nvidia drivers allow only 640x480
[06:13] <XVampireX> Blissex, Yeah, noticed that
[06:13] <Megant> Or how can I allow other modes
[06:14] <feniks> dunno if this is right channel, but i'd very much appreciate some help on bind9
[06:14] <Blissex> feniks: #DNS
[06:14] <XVampireX> Where's xorg.conf ?
[06:14] <feniks> oh ok
[06:14] <aLPHa2>  bbl
[06:14] <Megant> XVampireX: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:14] <Blissex> feniks: if #DNS is a bit empty try #LinuxHelp
[06:14] <XVampireX> thanks
[06:15] <VolVE> Seveas: I'm rebooting and testing the CD right now, but Alf-F4 only said "11:37 Setting up ubuntu-standard..." no errors or anything, very odd
[06:16] <pngwen> I have tried editing modules.conf, but that doesn't seem to work
[06:17] <dooglus> gharz: you can back up all the hidden stuff in your home directory using this:
[06:17] <dooglus> gharz: find ~ -maxdepth 1 -name '.*' -print0 | xargs -0 tar cfz ~/backup.$(date).tgz
[06:17] <dooglus> gharz: that's kind of like a backup-point - but only for your personal settings
[06:17] <Megant> So does anyone know about this Nvidia problem?
[06:17] <gharz> dooglus, wow! that's new to me... :)
[06:17] <gharz> anyway, i'll copy that.
[06:17] <nanenj> dooglus, neat tip!
[06:17] <s|k> Megant: what nvidia problem?
[06:18] <nanenj> I like that one :)
[06:18] <dooglus> gharz: it's new to me too - I just made it up :)
[06:18] <gharz> what if something goes wrong with my system and i re-install ubuntu... will it work?
[06:18] <dooglus> gharz: you'll need to reinstall any packages you had previously installed as well
[06:18] <Megant> s|k: I bought new flat monitor and nvidia allows only resolution "640x480"
[06:18] <benkong2> is there a cd or net install that lets me choose if I want ubuntu or kbuntu when installing?
[06:18] <nanenj> gharz, you'd either burn you're backup file (that you created) to cd or upload it to a private server, but, then you could copy it back, and it'd work fine :)
[06:18] <gharz> owww.
[06:18] <gharz> ok.
[06:18] <XVampireX> gharz: Yeah... but linux is not designed for reinstalling, it's designed for fixing
[06:18] <gharz> dooglus, thanks for the info.
[06:18] <inono> Guys can anyone help me, my apt is broke? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/rIqCEW14.html
[06:18] <s|k> Megant: what does your monitor support?
[06:19] <VolVE> Seveas: CD test was fine, I'm going to try installing again...
[06:19] <gharz> XVampireX, really? i've re-intalled my Ubuntu for the 4th time.
[06:19] <dooglus> gharz: so if you hang on, I'll extend that (already too long) command to include a package list in the backup
[06:19] <s|k> Megant: you can edit your xorg.conf to change screen resolutions
[06:19] <gharz> for the past few days.
[06:19] <Megant> s|k: Yes, I know that
[06:19] <benkong2> inono; do you have synaptic open
[06:19] <XVampireX> gharz: So learn how to fix things before you reinstall, learn the problem...
[06:19] <Megant> s|k: Other computer works well
[06:19] <inono> benkong2, no!!
[06:19] <Scorpmoon> my 50x speed cdrom drive defineately sounds different when reading 50x speed than in windows
[06:19] <Megant> s|k: But nvidia modules won't allow them
[06:19] <benkong2> I get that error if a terminal is open and I try synaptic or two terminals
[06:19] <Megant> With this monitor
[06:20] <gharz> my Ubuntu doesn't play DVD & VCD. i envy my ofcmate which he installed his ubuntu on his Acer laptop.
[06:20] <benkong2> both must be accessing apt
[06:20] <hastesaver> inono, do you have some other apt-ish app open? (Adept / Update manager / ...)
[06:20] <dooglus> gharz: COLUMNS= dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{print $2}' > .package-list; find ~ -maxdepth 1 -name '.*' -print0 | xargs -0 tar cfz ~/backup.$(date).tgz
[06:20] <inono> no i dont think so, i onyl have xchat and firefox open
[06:20] <Blissex> gharz: type !restricted
[06:20] <Kibou> Megant: did you set the correct HorizSync and VertRefresh values?
[06:20] <dooglus> gharz: that will include a package list in the backup file
[06:20] <gharz> dooglus, thanks for that code. i'll copy that.
[06:20] <Blissex> !restricted
[06:20] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:20] <dooglus> by the way, does anyone know a shorter way to get a list of installed packages than "COLUMNS= dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{print $2}' > .package-list" ?
[06:21] <msid> ok, is there ANY person that can tell me why ubuntu freezes everytime i plug in my USB printer?!??????????
[06:21] <hastesaver> inono, I'm sure there is a 'proper' solution, but I think you can also just try rebooting :)
[06:21] <Blissex> dooglus: list the files in '/var/lib/dpkg/'
[06:21] <Megant> I have tried but it didn't help
[06:21] <gharz> Blissex, i've already installed the files mentioned the RestrictredFormats
[06:21] <dooglus> Blissex: that gives "alternatives available available-old cmethopt diversions diversions-old info lock methods parts statoverride statoverride-old status status-old updates"
[06:21] <Smirnov> this is retarded
[06:21] <Smirnov> i pressed ctrl+alt+backspace and it broke
[06:22] <Smirnov> i'll just reinstall u
[06:22] <dooglus> Smirnov: control-alt-backspace is supposed to kill the X server.  didn't it?
[06:22] <Megant> But 640x480 works..
[06:22] <s|k> Megant: which nvidia driver do you have?
[06:22] <nicholaspaul> When i upgraded to Dapper, I lost Networking in the System/Admin menu - how do I get it back? Whats that app called?
[06:22] <Blissex> dooglus: a bit of initiative, look under those subdirs, e.g. for all files '/var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list'
[06:23] <Megant> s|k: Umm, version or what?
[06:23] <s|k> Megant: version type is it the repository binary or the proprietary one from NVIDA and if so what version
[06:23] <msid> is there ANY person that can tell me why ubuntu freezes everytime i plug in my USB printer?!??????????
[06:24] <hastesaver> msid, I'm sure such a person exists :)
[06:24] <brandon_> misd: if you plug it in before you start the PC, does it not start?
[06:24] <msid> brandon_: no
[06:24] <nanenj> dooglus, just a note, that backups up -every- directory in your home, not just the settings ones :P
[06:24] <dooglus> nanenj: why?
[06:24] <Frogzoo> dooglus: dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}'
[06:24] <dooglus> nanenj: oh, it includes '.'?
[06:25] <s|k> heh if I backuped every directory in my home I'd run out of disk space
[06:25] <nanenj> Not sure why, I just tried it... but, it back'd up some normal directories, maybe I just misunderstood the intent :)
[06:25] <nanenj> I thought it was meant to only back up things like .irssi and .firefox
[06:25] <Smirnov> I restarted my computer now apt-get is taking forever to connect
[06:25] <dooglus> Blissex's idea lists packages that used to be installed, but which aren't any more
[06:25] <scud> I must say ubuntu rocks
[06:25] <Megant> Hmm, drivers are from nvidia and version is 1.0-8762
[06:26] <vic_> Im running xubuntu on my ibm thinkpad 770x, and i get no sound
[06:26] <dooglus> nanenj: it should only back up stuff beginning with a '.'
[06:26] <nicholaspaul> Can someone tell me why I get 'Frequency Out of Range' error message before Ubuntu starts - its a screen error (ie. looks like the monitor menu...) ? ?
[06:26] <nanenj> dooglus can you PM it to me?  (I'm trying to do this in console :P) still haven't gotten back into X ;)
[06:26] <s|k> Megant: do you have a back up copy of your xorg.conf when you had nvidia-glx installed ?
[06:26] <Frogzoo> !tell nicholaspaul about fixres
[06:26] <nanenj> that way it won't scroll off the top of the screen ;)
[06:26] <s|k> Megant: assuming you've ever had nvidia-glx installed
[06:26] <nicholaspaul> thx Frogzoo
[06:26] <Smirnov> ok how come when I put a script in ~/.bash_profile it didnt execute when I logged on?
[06:26] <Megant> s|k: I think so.
[06:27] <Frogzoo> Smirnov: you want ~/.gnomerc
[06:27] <Megant> s|k: But everything works with my 17" CRT
[06:27] <s|k> Megant: my recommendation is to replace that back up copy, install nvidia-glx
[06:27] <dooglus> Smirnov: because ~/.bash_profile doesn't run if you log in using gdm
[06:27] <kimo> Smirnov: maybe u need to 'chmod +x script' first ?
[06:27] <s|k> Megant: and see if that works
[06:27] <Megant> I have nvidia-glx
[06:27] <dooglus> kimo: no, ~/.bash_profile doesn't need execute permission - it's sourced, not executed
[06:27] <s|k> Megant: you cannot both have nvidia-glx and nvidia 8762
[06:27] <dooglus> Smirnov: it will run if you log in to a virtual terminal
[06:27] <kimo> dooglus: I'm talking about the other script it is calling
[06:27] <Smirnov> ...?
[06:27] <Smirnov> and it doesnt runwhen i log onto the gui ?
[06:28] <Frogzoo> Smirnov: you want ~/.gnomerc
[06:28] <Megant> s|k: that 1.0-8762 is nvidia-glx's version I think
[06:28] <nicholaspaul> Anyone else have problems with U 'dropping' network connection? Does that sound like a nic card prob?
[06:28] <dooglus> Smirnov: no, not unless you explicitly arrange for it to be run
[06:28] <matthewc> hey, im having installation issues with the latest release of ubuntu, I begin the copying of files and then it freezes at 28% the whole system locks up
[06:28] <gavagai> nicholaspaul, i don't have that problem.  how often does it happen?
[06:28] <Smirnov> wow ok
[06:28] <s|k> Megant: Megant try to install the proprietary version of nvidia's drivers, that might work
[06:29] <Smirnov> I dont have a .gnomerc file should i make 1
[06:29] <Frogzoo> Smirnov: yep
[06:29] <s|k> Megant: there's a great thread about it in the forums search for nvidia in titles on advanced search
[06:29] <nicholaspaul> gavagai: daily. AFAIK, just after recovering from a screensaver
[06:29] <Smirnov> i just need to set my proxy environment variables
[06:29] <Smirnov> those will get saved if i put them in .gnomerc ?
[06:29] <Frogzoo> Smirnov: yep
[06:29] <Smirnov> ok good
[06:29] <matthewc> can anyone help me?
[06:30] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[06:30] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[06:30] <nicholaspaul> matthewc:  ask away :)
[06:30] <matthewc> I have
[06:30] <matthewc> hey, im having installation issues with the latest release of ubuntu, I begin the copying of files and then it freezes at 28% the whole system locks up
[06:30] <simonpca> !tell matthewc about helpme
[06:30] <gavagai> nicholaspaul, this is not the most elegant fix but you could run a cron job to test the connection and restart it when it dies, i used to do that on a machine that would lose connection every few days
[06:30] <gavagai> that is not the best answer, which is to find the cause, but you could do it.
[06:30] <hareem> I have a question. How can i setup the universe and multi universe mode
[06:30] <gavagai> if you need to insure that the machine stays online.
[06:30] <nicholaspaul> gavagai: yea, i understand. Whats a cron job?
[06:31] <gavagai> a cron job is a task that the computer performs automatically on a set schedule
[06:31] <anahtiel> algun espaol??
[06:31] <nicholaspaul> oh ok. So one that, say, sets ifonfig?
[06:31] <nicholaspaul> or ifconfig
[06:31] <mpoer> is there a file in /etc that controls whether I use ubuntu, xubuntu, or kubuntu
[06:31] <mpoer> ?
[06:31] <hastesaver> !es
[06:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:31] <nicholaspaul> gavagai: how do you set up  cron jobs?
[06:32] <siriusnova> holy crap there are so many people in here
[06:32] <siriusnova> Gaim took like 10 seconds to load the room hehe
[06:32] <nicholaspaul> siriusnova: welcome to the party <;-p
[06:32] <dooglus> Smirnov: the best thing to do is put ". ~/.bash_profile" in "~/.xprofile" - then ~/.bash_profile will be sourced wherever you log in from.
[06:32] <gavagai> nicholaspaul, well it would probably do something like test the connection and then if it is dead do: /etc/init.d/networking restart.  i have a script like that, if you want it you can have it
[06:32] <dooglus> Smirnov: in ubuntu, gdm sources ~/.xprofile when you log in using gdm
[06:32] <matthewc> so no-one has no idea of why it keeps freezing during installation
[06:33] <gavagai> nicholaspaul, there is probably an ubuntu gui for setting them up, or you can do it in the terminal with 'crontab -e' i think
[06:33] <nicholaspaul> gavagai:  sure :) that would be handy! How would you like to send it?
[06:33] <gavagai> one second
[06:33] <nicholaspaul> sure
[06:33] <gavagai> crontab can be confusing you may want to google a bit.  it is easy once you figure out the syntax though
[06:33] <Self> I have a problem with mysql on an almost fresh dapper install: can't reset root password (that has been put I don't know how) anyone has an idea?
[06:34] <hareem> hi. I got a question. How can i setup the univerese and multiverse systems on my ubuntu desktop
[06:34] <mpoer> what is the ubuntu equivalent to $HOME/.xsession
[06:34] <Jowi> ubotu: tell hareem about universe
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> Self: sounds like a MySQL / privileges issue to me...
[06:34] <hastesaver> mpoer, I think it's what /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager links to; but use update-alternatives instead
[06:34] <Jowi> hareem: see the message you got from ubotu :)
[06:35] <matthewc> anyone here experienced problems when attempting to install on a slave HD ?
[06:35] <mpoer> it's more than the session though, I want to change the desktop environment
[06:35] <bdmp> I have a network problem. I upgraded to dapper and my network device changed from eth0 to eth1 and now I can not connect to the internet. I have tried a lot of things but I think one of the problems is that the new eth1's HWaddr is 00:00:00:00:00:00. Any suggestions?
[06:35] <hastesaver> mpoer, there is also a ~/.dmrc , I think that's it. But use update-alternatives; it's the safest way :)
[06:35] <mpoer> I have ubuntu, i want to change it to xubuntu and/or kubuntu at will
[06:35] <whizz-> firefox has evolution start up as default mail client, how can i change this to thunderbird?
[06:35] <felixfoertsch> Hi all! Could someone please send me the standard wallpaper from ubuntu?
[06:35] <felixfoertsch> Would be awesome!
[06:35] <DED|NJE> anyone know how to remove that annoying welcome message in limewire?
[06:35] <hareem> man could someone please tell me how to setup the universe and multi universe
[06:35] <hastesaver> mpoer, you can always choose at startup, right? :p
[06:36] <neutrinomass> ubotu tell hareem about universe
[06:36] <gavagai> nicholaspaul, one second... i tried putting it on pastebin but their site is messed up.
[06:36] <SonicChao> Felix, if someone could do that for me too, I would appreciate it. :)
[06:36] <kevinz> hello i tried to compile a file with "include <glib.h>" but it says "glib: no such file or directory". What should i include in the compile command?
[06:36] <sirius> Free Potato Pie Pictures !!! http://images.google.com/images?q=potato+pie&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images
[06:36] <mpoer> session, yes. not the enviroment (window manager, etc)
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> gavagai: Ok.
[06:36] <dr_willis> DED|NJE,  theres a alternative to limewire - i foret its name however.
[06:36] <pradeep> hareem, System -> Administration -> Software Properties
[06:36] <felixfoertsch> SonicChao: If I get it, i'll tell you :D
[06:37] <neutrinomass> kevinz: What are you trying to compile ?
[06:37] <hastesaver> mpoer, um, what's the difference? I'm not sure I know
[06:37] <felixfoertsch> So please! Could someone send the picture to me? felixfoertsch [ at ]  gmail.com
[06:37] <hareem> Thanks pradeep
[06:37] <DED|NJE> dr_willis...there are a lot of alternatives out there
[06:37] <gharz> Frogzoo, this is regarding playing my vcd/dvd again. i checked the syslog and i got these message => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15474 does it have do with it?
[06:37] <kevinz> i wish to compile the helloworld C plugin for gaim
[06:37] <neutrinomass> SonicChao, felixfoertsch : It's in package "ubuntu-artwork"
[06:37] <dr_willis> DED|NJE,  this is a limewire clone. :P
[06:38] <gavagai> hmm pastebin is not working here, does anyone know of an alternative place to paste stuff?
[06:38] <dr_willis> frostwire or somthing like that
[06:38] <kevinz> neutrinomass: it's a C plugin for gaim. I aim to compile it into a .so file
[06:38] <SonicChao> Actually, until my ubuntu CDs get here, I wanted to use it on my Windows....
[06:38] <felixfoertsch> neutrinomass: : I don't have ubuntu - thats the point. I just like the style - and want the picture :)
[06:38] <neutrinomass> kevinz: Do gcc blah.c `pkg-config --libs --cflags glib`
[06:38] <boricua> !paste
[06:38] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:38] <gavagai> boricua, thanks
[06:38] <mpoer> know what? I don't know what I was thinking. Thanks, hastesaver
[06:39] <neutrinomass> kevinz: I'm not sure about the library part, never had to compile one. But add the pkg-config line to get rid of the glib error ...
[06:39] <Self> nicholaspaul: do you know how I could fix it? I found http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html but the 2 ways described their do not work either.  the latter will automatically stop the deamon after it starts
[06:39] <neutrinomass> felixfoertsch: Ok, gimme a sec
[06:39] <felixfoertsch> neutrinomass: Thanks! You are great :D
[06:39] <SonicChao> Felix, I am downloading the Ubuntu CD rigt now, I can send it to you when its installed
[06:39] <krang> Does anyone know if there's a way to have a login screen with a "guest user" button on it that requires no typing?
[06:39] <SonicChao> Just tell me your email
[06:39] <Frogzoo> gharz: don't know what's going on there
[06:39] <gavagai> ok here is the script you can use to restart your network when it dies:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15475
[06:39] <mpoer> ubuntu + xubuntu + kubuntu = fully bloated and ready to roll
[06:40] <felixfoertsch> SonicChao: neutrinomass will send it - but thanks for your help.
[06:40] <kevinz> neutrinomass: thank you. I try
[06:40] <SonicChao> felix, 10-4
[06:40] <pngwen> how can I reassign the eth numbers on my network interface?  ubuntu is starting it off at eth2, I want it to start at 0
[06:40] <neutrinomass> felixfoertsch: btw, there are lots of them at http://art.ubuntu.com
[06:40] <gavagai> so if you run that as a cron job like every 15 minutes, your computer will quickly go back online after it loses connection
[06:40] <pngwen> it's because I changed my net hardware, how can I make it forget about the old card?
[06:40] <felixfoertsch> neutrinomass: : How many are there?
[06:41] <felixfoertsch> neutrinomass: oh sorry. I see.
[06:41] <pngwen> I know in most distros I just alias the eth interface to the module, but ubuntu is "friendly" enough to ignore my commands.  What's the ubuntu way of doing?
[06:41] <felixfoertsch> Did not read the second line.
[06:41] <felixfoertsch> Thanks for the link!
[06:41] <kevinz> neutrinomass: it says "sh: glib-config: command not found"
[06:42] <Smirnov> Anyone here using an IBM ThinkPad?
[06:42] <Smirnov> is there some drivers that will park my harddrive when it shakes
[06:42] <Rennen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15476 Anyone help me with this?
[06:42] <neutrinomass> kevinz: `pkg-config --cflags --libs glib` <--- Note the `
[06:42] <gavagai> nicholaspaul, you save that as a file, and then make it executable, and then tell cron to run it every X minutes or hours or whatever.  if that doesn't make sense just ask. :)
[06:42] <neutrinomass> kevinz: I'm not sure what it's called, but its the weird symbol above your tab button
[06:43] <Rennen> and where is the best pl;ace to go to figure out how to share a printer for a windows network?
[06:43] <olu> hey.. is it any way to burn the 6.06 cd iso on a dvd? ran out of cds :|
[06:43] <neutrinomass> felixfoertsch: Still want the default one? I'm not exactly sure where it is :-/
[06:43] <Frogzoo> neutrinomass: tilda ~
[06:43] <Smirnov> olu: yah just put in a dvd ;)
[06:43] <Rennen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15476 Anyone help me with this?
[06:43] <Rennen> and where is the best pl;ace to go to figure out how to share a printer for a windows network?
[06:43] <pngwen> ok, so ubuntu can't do that?
[06:43] <VolVE> Seveas: now it's stuck at "Configuring ltrace..." :(
[06:44] <kevinz> neutrinomass: yes. I just copied and pasted it
[06:44] <felixfoertsch> neutrinomass: would love it.
[06:44] <Seveas> VolVE, is that earlier or later in the process?
[06:44] <neutrinomass> Frogzoo: Not the tilda, the `` thing ...
[06:44] <Smirnov> Rennen: that means you dont have a repository /w webmin
[06:44] <VolVE> Seveas: I'm not sure, they were both ni the 70% range
[06:44] <Frogzoo> neutrinomass: backquote ?
[06:44] <neutrinomass> felixfoertsch: Ok then, you'll have to wait :-p
[06:44] <neutrinomass> Frogzoo: Yes, backquote :)
[06:44] <olu> Smirnov: hehe it doesnt work im afraid... nero says i need to put in a cd blabla :(
[06:44] <Seveas> VolVE, how much memory do you have? and how much diskspace on '/' ?
[06:44] <Rennen> Smirnov: I have multiverse and universe ...
[06:45] <felixfoertsch> neutrinomass: I don't have any problem with that ;)
[06:45] <pngwen> how can I make ubuntu rescan/reassign my network interfaces?  because of changing cards, all of my eth devices start at eth2 instead of eth0 it's like it is hoping for the return of the old card
[06:45] <pngwen> I have about 20 servers that are going to have this problem, am I going to have to reconfigure my server farm's entire network scheme?
[06:45] <VolVE> Seveas: 1GB of RAM, and I allocated the / partition 500MB, also: /home, /var, /usr, /tmp, /root all had their own partitions
[06:45] <Seveas> VolVE, how much on /var?
[06:46] <Smirnov> olu: dunno try cdrecord
[06:46] <VolVE> SeanTater: /var had 9GB
[06:46] <Seveas> hmm, 9gb should be enough...
[06:46] <Rennen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15477 is there anything I need to change in this to get webmin??
[06:46] <runes> NoUse: just a follow up from yesterday. I followed your instructions to get the 80 gig ide up and running with ext3  it's working fine!  I tried several reinstallations of Ubuntu to make sure the data would still be there anbd it is
[06:46] <Pistahh> hi
[06:46] <nicholaspaul> gavagai: sorry, i was away..
[06:46] <Seveas> (during install /var/cache/apt/archives is used a lot)
[06:46] <gavagai> nicholaspaul, no prob
[06:46] <nicholaspaul> Self I'm not sure.. sorry.. I havent used mysql much lately.
[06:47] <nicholaspaul> gavagai: did you post a file (just trying to scroll up and read!)?
[06:47] <Pistahh> a friend of mine has just upgraded from breezy to dapper and now he says he feels that the computer became a lot slower.. anyone else noticed this?
[06:47] <Seveas> I'm out of clue for now - maybe syslog can tell you more (<alt><f2>, start console, type: less /var/log/syslog and scroll with page up and page down)
[06:47] <gavagai> i posted a link, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15475 ,  you can put that text into a file
[06:47] <VolVE> Seveas: thanks, I'll take a look
[06:48] <nanenj> Pistahh, can't say I have.  Performance seems much better to me.
[06:48] <runes> is there a quick way to shut down gnome so that I can update drives?
[06:48] <runes> drives=drivers
[06:48] <pngwen> anyone know how to get ubuntu to change its eth#'s on its nics?
[06:48] <neutrinomass> felixfoertsch: DCC ?
[06:48] <Pistahh> pngwen: /etc/iftab
[06:48] <pngwen> it doesn't obey module aliases, what "easier" way has been implemented?
[06:48] <pngwen> Pistahh: I'll take a look
[06:49] <pngwen> Pistahh: thank you
[06:49] <Pistahh> pngwen: yw :)
[06:49] <felixfoertsch> neutrinomass: I don't care. You could also send it by mail.
[06:49] <neutrinomass> felixfoertsch: Quite unlikely without your e-mail address :)
[06:49] <pngwen> Pistahh: I have never seen this before.  Is this an ubuntuism?
[06:50] <gratefulfrog> anyone know why I wna no longer see windows machines on my hetwork in the gnome file browser since upgrading to Dapper?
[06:50] <felixfoertsch> Oh - I already wrote it but here is it once again: felixfoertsch [ at ]  gmail.com
[06:50] <felixfoertsch> :)
[06:50] <Echelon-H> how can I run an ssh server ?
[06:50] <kevinz> neutrinomass: I think i find the solution, it should be glib-2.0 :)
[06:50] <felixfoertsch> Thanks a lot!
[06:50] <kevinz> neutrinomass: thank you
[06:50] <Pistahh> pngwen: it is part of the udev suite
[06:50] <SonicChao> I'm installing BreezyBadger...
[06:50] <chrissturm> guys, how can i reinstall grub to boot into my ubuntu after installing vista?
[06:50] <SonicChao> Than upgrading to DapperDrake
[06:50] <SonicChao> This seams to be faster...
[06:51] <pngwen> Pistahh: Ahhh, see I'm used to a mkdev sort of world :-P
[06:51] <Pistahh> chrissturm: grub-install
[06:51] <profoXP> chrissturm, you installed vista? afaik vista wipes the whole HD before installing
[06:51] <chmod775> hi folks, I keep changing from a wired network to a wireless network, now the problem I face is that I have to keep changing the DNS settings all the time, now is there a package which I can click from the taskbar and it will have me connected to either of the networkds
[06:51] <SonicChao> well, in order to give the network more bandwith im leaving, brb
[06:51] <chrissturm> Pistahh: just boot with the live cd, and use grub-install?
[06:51] <Pistahh> pngwen: I personally do not care ;) it works, no matter yhow ;)
[06:51] <luc1fersflowers> quick question, how do you unmount drives?
[06:52] <Pistahh> chrissturm: yepp, for example. :)
[06:52] <chmod775> hi folks, I keep changing from a wired network to a wireless network, now the problem I face is that I have to keep changing the DNS settings all the time, now is there a package which I can click from the taskbar and it will have me connected to either of the networkds
[06:52] <VolVE> Seveas: no errors in syslog, maybe it's a bad disk or something... :_(
[06:52] <luc1fersflowers> chmod775, check out network manager
[06:52] <neutrinomass> kevinz: Oh, glib works here though :-/
[06:52] <pngwen> Pistahh: yeah, I'm just not used to using this.  ubuntu so far has worked well for me, every now and again I hit on one of those topics though
[06:52] <js_> luc1fersflowers: mount /mount7point
[06:52] <chmod775> ok luc1fersflowers
[06:52] <js_> uh, /mount/point
[06:52] <js_> damnit
[06:52] <luc1fersflowers> js_, is that how you unmount drives?
[06:52] <js_> luc1fersflowers: umount /mount/point
[06:53] <luc1fersflowers> js_, ty
[06:53] <js_> luc1fersflowers: sorry, my keyboard is failing
[06:53] <boha_> can anyone tall me how to mount .img file?
[06:53] <luc1fersflowers> js_, is there a way to keep a drive mounted but not have the icon on the desktop?
[06:53] <boha_> tell*
[06:53] <kevinz> neutrinomass: oh i see.
[06:53] <Frogzoo> boha_: u mean .iso ?
[06:53] <js_> luc1fersflowers: perhaps by mounting it somewhere else, i'm not sure
[06:53] <pngwen> Pistahh: usually the new fangled ways turn out to be easier.  This is easier than what I was doing :-P
[06:54] <Pistahh> pngwen: ;)
[06:54] <luc1fersflowers> js_, thx man, do you know how to stop ubuntu from mounting on boot?
[06:54] <neutrinomass> felixfoertsch: Sent :)
[06:54] <js_> luc1fersflowers: edit /etc/fstab
[06:54] <felixfoertsch> neutrinomass: thanks a lot! :)
[06:54] <Echelon-H> how can I run an ssh server ?
[06:54] <neutrinomass> felixfoertsch: n/p :)
[06:54] <luc1fersflowers> js_, thx so much
[06:54] <gavagai> Echelon-H, install openssh-server
[06:55] <nicholaspaul> gavagai: oh i nearly missed that! Thanks for the link.
[06:55] <felixfoertsch> Have a nice day @ all :D
[06:55] <Scorpmoon> a partition is universal right.. it doesn't matter if it's made in macos, windows or linux?
[06:55] <gavagai> nicholaspaul, you are welcome.  :)
[06:55] <gavagai> nicholaspaul, so if you save that as a file, and make the file executable, you can run it like a program.  and then you can set up cron to run it automatically.
[06:55] <boha_> Frogzoo,  example of my file: ewdp-tgm.img
[06:55] <Frogzoo> Scorpmoon: the partition table flags the filesystem type, so not really - you can set the flag with fdisk
[06:55] <nicholaspaul> gavagai: oh i see. I'll do some googling on crons.
[06:56] <mcrow> hi
[06:56] <Echelon-H> gavagai, I see, thx
[06:56] <mcrow> i have a quiestion?
[06:56] <pngwen> ok, I'm out.  Thanks once again!
[06:56] <Scorpmoon> frogzoo, is it a bad idea to setup my partitions from within XP before I install ubuntu then?
[06:56] <vinboy> performance-wise is there any difference in running X during startup vs running X using startx in console?
[06:56] <Scorpmoon> because I know how to partition in XP
[06:56] <Pistahh> mcrow: you should know it;)
[06:56] <gavagai> nicholaspaul, ubuntu may have some easy GUI for setting up cron, i'm not sure.  someone in here probably knows!
[06:56] <Frogzoo> Scorpmoon: that should work fine
[06:56] <mcrow> are you boot Pistahh
[06:56] <nicholaspaul> hehe gavagai  i could always search Synaptic.
[06:56] <mcrow> =?
[06:57] <SAM_theman> Muhaha
[06:57] <gavagai> heh
[06:57] <SAM_theman> Amarok works like a dream on here
[06:57] <gavagai> i just switched to ubuntu like two days ago so i'm not hip to everything
[06:57] <nicholaspaul> gavagai: oh cool - welcome to the flock! What were you using before?
[06:57] <nanenj> SAM_theman: I've been thinking about attempting Amarok on Ubuntu again ;) it's just iffy cause Amarok's a KDE app :P (it -does- work, just a little glitchy :P)
[06:58] <SAM_theman> not for me
[06:58] <luc1fersflowers> thanks again all for the help/support i hope you all enjoy this beautiful day to be alive
[06:58] <gavagai> i was using mandrake and debian.  i only adminstered the mandrake machine though, and i got rid of that computer and put ubuntu on my new one
[06:58] <SAM_theman> but on fedora core 5 i had a problem
[06:58] <luc1fersflowers> i'm out
[06:58] <nanenj> you don't get the knotify bug thinger? :P
[06:58] <Frogzoo> nanenj: no glitches here - it all works great
[06:58] <mcrow> who speak spanish?
[06:58] <nanenj> knotify and some other k stuff liked to crash :(
[06:58] <nanenj> didn't really affect amarok
[06:58] <nicholaspaul> gavagai:  i shee. I've been on Ubuntu for a couple of years, but I'm not a programmer!
[06:58] <Jowi> who had the eth0/eth1 switched problem?
[06:58] <nanenj> but, was annoying getting the dialog boxes.
[06:58] <snoops> question about vsync..
[06:58] <nanenj> Perhaps I'll give it a stab again  then :)  I -like- Amarok :)
[06:58] <Guilhermeee_____> where it is the headquarters of ubuntu?
[06:59] <gavagai> nicholaspaul, i am not a programmer either, i can only do really really really basic shell scripting
[06:59] <snoops> do I enable vsync in my xorg.conf file?
[06:59] <refuze> how do i get glxgears to show my fps?
[06:59] <Frogzoo> Jowi: the answer was /etc/iftab
[06:59] <Guilhermeee_____> where it is the headquarters of ubuntu?
[06:59] <AngryElf> anyone know how to set up my printer to be shared to other ubuntu clients?
[06:59] <Guilhermeee_____> help me plz
[06:59] <nicholaspaul> gavagai:  oh ok :) I've only been writing scripts since a couple weeks ago!!!
[06:59] <Frogzoo> !tell Guilhermeee_____ about canonical
[06:59] <Jowi> Frogzoo: ah. did that fix the "00:00:00...." MAC address as well?
[06:59] <nanenj> brb, testing some quick config edits :)
[06:59] <nanenj> wish me lucks ;P
[07:00] <gavagai> you will like cron, then, because you can automate whatever you script.  i use it for backups and stuff
[07:00] <Frogzoo> Jowi: I assume so
[07:00] <Panzerboy> hello all
[07:00] <Guilhermeee_____> [Frogzoo] : in which city it is the headquarters of ubuntu?
[07:00] <i3dmaster> is localepurge working on ubuntu? I want to get some useless locales remove but seems like its doing nothing
[07:00] <Jowi> Frogzoo: good to know. thanks
[07:00] <Panzerboy> quick question
[07:00] <Panzerboy> what was the name of the meta package in ubuntu for the development tools?
[07:01] <Panzerboy> gcc, automake & friends
[07:01] <Panzerboy> :)
[07:01] <Frogzoo> Guilhermeee_____: check the wiki
[07:01] <Frogzoo> !ubuntu
[07:01] <ubotu> I heard ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[07:01] <Panzerboy> !gcc
[07:01] <Chousuke> Panzerboy: build-essential
[07:01] <ubotu> I heard gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[07:01] <dooglus> 18:55 <nanenj> /etc/network/interfaces  If I remove the line iface ppp0 inet ppp...  19:00 nanenj lost terminal.   :)
[07:01] <Guilhermeee_____> thanks
[07:01] <Panzerboy> Chousuke: thanks
[07:01] <SAM_theman> how can i convert .ogg to .wav?
[07:02] <Bernier> SAM_theman google it
[07:02] <chrissturm> i was thinking that gcc is the gnu compiler collection
[07:02] <hareem> any one know how to ad brother MFC-210c to ubuntu
[07:02] <Echelon-H> how can I run the openssh-server?
[07:02] <Frogzoo> chrissturm: build-essential
[07:02] <Panzerboy> chrissturm: that's what it is
[07:02] <Panzerboy> :)
[07:02] <gavagai> Echelon-H, it did not start automatically?
[07:02] <i3dmaster> Echelon-H, /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:02] <dooglus> gharz: if you copied those lines I wrote earlier, can I suggest you use http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/profile-backup.sh instead.  I fixed it a bit.
[07:03] <chrissturm> Panzerboy: that ubotu bot said different ;)
[07:03] <gharz> dooglus, ok.
[07:03] <blaamann> SAM_theman: oggdec
[07:03] <gharz> thanks!
[07:03] <SAM_theman> for real
[07:03] <SAM_theman> with apt first right?
[07:03] <gharz> dooglus, right now my concern is make my machine play DVD and VCD.
[07:03] <Frogzoo> chrissturm: gcc is just the compiler, if you want all the build tools, install 'build-essential'
[07:03] <Panzerboy> chrissturm: well, ubotu is right :)
[07:03] <dooglus> gharz: you got the dvdcss2 thingy?
[07:03] <byrdmeln_> i have the 4318 chip in my wireless so i can't use bcm43xx, i ditched it and finally got ndiswrapper to work, but net-admin won't load up when i boot up and i have to manually reset it, any ideas? :)
[07:03] <gharz> dooglus, yup. got it from the wiki restrictredformats...
[07:04] <gharz> dooglus, i wonder what's wrong.
[07:04] <dooglus> gharz: so what's happening?
[07:04] <hareem> any one know how to ad brother MFC-210c to ubuntu
[07:04] <chrissturm> frogzoo: theres a package called gcc and a command called gcc, and its the gnu c compiler. nonetheless gcc is not the gnu c compiler, but the gnu compiler collection
[07:04] <dooglus> gharz: I use 'xine --auto-play=fq --auto-scan dvd >/dev/null 2>&1 &'
[07:04] <dooglus> (to play dvds)
[07:04] <hareem> any one know how to ad brother MFC-210c to ubuntu
[07:04] <Frogzoo> chrissturm: gnu c _compiler_
[07:04] <SAM_theman> blaamann, it says not found
[07:05] <dooglus> catchy, huh?
[07:05] <gharz> dooglus, i put vcd on my cdrom and it says (using Totem) : Totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrom0'
[07:05] <nicholaspaul> Ok next question: when i u/g to Dapper, is there a reason things discappeared from my Admin menu???
[07:05] <chrissturm> frogzoo: http://gcc.gnu.org/
[07:05] <blaamann> SAM_theman: Install it then. Find the package with apt-file
[07:05] <gharz> dooglus, 'There is no input plugin to handle the location of this movie.'
[07:05] <Guilhermeee_____> I am not finding! somebody helps me. I am making a school work!  the headquarters of ubuntu are where? nobody knows?
[07:05] <dooglus> gharz: did you try xine?
[07:06] <nicholaspaul> hareem: you want your brother, MFC210c as a user? [hehe] 
[07:06] <gharz> dooglus, yes i did. i even tried gxine... vlc... they won't work.
[07:06] <SAM_theman> blaamann, what you mean when i do sudo apt-get install oggdec it says not found
[07:06] <byrdmeln_> when i upgraded to dapper half my admin menu disappeared, i had to download the new iso and do a clean install
[07:06] <hareem> no no i want to add that as a printer
[07:06] <dooglus> Guilhermeee_____: Canonical Ltd. is a global organisation headquartered in the Isle of Man.
[07:06] <nicholaspaul> byrdmeln_: oh boy.
[07:06] <blaamann>  SAM_theman: Try vorbis-tools
[07:06] <nicholaspaul> so theres no 'sudo apt-get install AdminMenu or anything?!!
[07:07] <nicholaspaul> i wanted an easy answer... !!
[07:07] <nicholaspaul> lol
[07:07] <graveson> how do i enable dvb support for dapper
[07:07] <SAM_theman> already installed it said
[07:07] <byrdmeln_> hehe sorry
[07:07] <nicholaspaul> DOH
[07:07] <gharz> dooglus, i'm getting frustrated with this thing. i can't find any answer from the net.
[07:07] <Guilhermeee_____> [(dooglus)] : isle of man? where it is this?
[07:07] <SAM_theman> o oggdec is install
[07:08] <dooglus> Guilhermeee_____: see http://www.canonical.com/contact - they're in a place called 'Dooglus' :)
[07:08] <nicholaspaul> ok next question: why doesnt Synaptic work? I just get an error (after entering paswd) that it cant be run?
[07:08] <SAM_theman> i typed it into the terminal
[07:08] <dooglus> Guilhermeee_____: it's off the UK
[07:08] <mcrow> i need watch free in my hdd??
[07:08] <Frogzoo> chrissturm: gcc compiles c, which is its main use & is the gnu c compiler - interesting point about the acronym
[07:08] <mcrow> who?
[07:08] <Echelon-H> How can I create a user in openssh-server?
[07:08] <hareem> can some one please tell me how can i install my Brother MFC-210 C printer onto Ubuntu
[07:08] <_daniel_> hey I have a small question, I got a latin america keybord without some keys like 'at' etx and I dont know how to access them
[07:09] <SAM_theman> How i use it
[07:09] <_daniel_> In windows is an alt+64 combo
[07:09] <inrelief_> it'd sure be nice if flash8 would come out for linux
[07:09] <Guilhermeee_____> (dooglus): nice, you know to say the localization to me in the map? he is close to that country?
[07:10] <Pistahh> _daniel_: press shift+ctrl then type the unicode code of that character
[07:10] <blaamann> SAM_theman: man oggdec
[07:10] <Echelon-H> How can I create users in openssh server?
[07:10] <_daniel_> Pistahh: no doest work
[07:10] <byrdmeln_> i have the 4318 chip in my wireless so i can't use bcm43xx, i ditched it and finally got ndiswrapper to work, but net-admin won't load up when i boot up and i have to manually reset it, any ideas?
[07:11] <Pistahh> Echelon-H: system -> administration -> users & groups
[07:11] <Pistahh> _daniel_: try it in gedit
[07:11] <_daniel_> ok an in the tty ?
[07:11] <Echelon-H> Pistahh, I have only tterminal
[07:11] <Pistahh> _daniel_: ah, it works only in X :(
[07:12] <Guilhermeee_____> dooglus, nice, you know to say the localization to me in the map? he is close to that country? know?
[07:12] <_daniel_> I am on xterm
[07:12] <dooglus> Guilhermeee_____: I just tried finding it using MS's live.com maps.  It told me "the closest match for Circular Road, Douglas, Isle of Man is Circular Quay Ferry Terminal (ferry terminal), Australia"
[07:13] <varsendaggr> hey how do i change the time it takes my dhcp lease to expire?
[07:13] <void^> it's in the channel just off the coast of france
[07:13] <_daniel_> How can I write the @ in unicode ?
[07:14] <Echelon-H> Pistahh, I have only tterminal
[07:14] <SAM_theman> blaamann, Thanks man your da best
[07:14] <Pistahh> Echelon-H: sorry, I do not have a solution for that.
[07:14] <Guilhermeee_____> [[dooglus] ] : o_O =/
[07:14] <Guilhermeee_____> [dooglus] : thanks boy!
[07:14] <dooglus> Guilhermeee_____: it turns out the Isle of Man is part of the UK.  who knew?
[07:14] <Echelon-H> Pistahh, Does it have anything to do with the "System" users? I mean like my user and root etc.?
[07:15] <Pistahh> Echelon-H: on a terminal you can use the adduser command
[07:15] <dooglus> Guilhermeee_____: it's kind of half-way between Belfast and Blackpool
[07:15] <lonegeek> what program can i use to extract audio from a video..... i tried avidemux..but when i load it in audacity its really messed up
[07:15] <blaamann> SAM_theman: But you're still theman
[07:15] <gavagai> Echelon-H, you just want to add a user so they can SSH in?
[07:15] <Kibou> varsendaggr: default-lease-time
[07:15] <SAM_theman> Heheh
[07:15] <Echelon-H> gavagai, yeah...
[07:15] <gavagai> Echelon-H, sudo adduser (username)
[07:16] <varsendaggr> Kibou, what do you mean?
[07:16] <dooglus> Guilhermeee_____: http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=54.304612~-5.174129&style=r&lvl=8
[07:16] <gavagai> that user will not be in all the right groups if you want them to use X, sound, stuff like that, but they should be able to SSH in.  if you want to add them to all the normal groups you'll have to do that manually
[07:17] <Guilhermeee_____> dooglus: i go to see
[07:17] <_daniel_> Pistahh: thanks I found it is 40, :) ok problem solved
[07:17] <Kibou> that's the option for dhcpd.conf
[07:17] <gavagai> you can see what groups you are in with:  groups username
[07:17] <slew> hi. im trying to remember the name of the application that lets you edit things, kinda like the windows registery editor.. anyone know what im talking about?
[07:17] <varsendaggr> ohhh
[07:18] <varsendaggr> Kibou, where is dhcpd.config?
[07:18] <dooglus> gharz: what does xine say when you try it?  if you use the command I told you?
[07:18] <slew> not the alacarte menu editor though
[07:18] <Kibou> in /etc/dhcp3
[07:18] <Amaranth> slew: gconf-editor
[07:19] <slew> Amaranth, YES thanks!!
[07:19] <Amaranth> slew: it's hidden in the menus by default, you can use alacarte to unhide it
[07:19] <Kibou> that only works if you're the dhcp server of course
[07:19] <dooglus> gharz: also, do you have these packages installed?  I do - I don't know if they're needed, but they may help: libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4 libdvdread3
[07:19] <Amaranth> slew: it's called Configuration Editor and it's in the System Tools menu
[07:19] <hastesaver> lonegeek, use mplayer :)
[07:19] <Kibou> not sure how to change it on the client side
[07:19] <slew> Amaranth, i just hit alt f2
[07:19] <varsendaggr> Kibou, i got dhclient.conf   is that it?
[07:19] <byrdmeln_> net-admin needs to be reactivated everytime i log on to get internet, and when i try to close the window i loose internet until i open it again and reactive the wireless card, what am i doin wrong?
[07:20] <gharz> dooglus, the output to the xine --auto-play=fq --auto-scan dvd >/dev/null 2>&1 & command says [1]  13649
[07:20] <Kibou> varsendaggr: that's the client configuration file.. are you the dhcp server in your network or a client?
[07:20] <gharz> dooglus, all lib has been installed.
[07:20] <Amaranth> byrdmeln_: dapper?
[07:20] <hastesaver> lonegeek, use "mplayer video.file -ao pcm" ; it will dump an audio file
[07:20] <gharz> even the w32codecs
[07:20] <dooglus> gharz: of course it does.  miss off everything from the first > onwards...
[07:20] <lonegeek> hastesaver: thanks!
[07:21] <gharz> dooglus, r u asking about the 'restore point' ?
[07:21] <rak_> do i have some kind of bug... whenever i open up firefox it starts up at the university of arizona, tuscon arizona homepage, it isn't my homepage but it starts there anyways, does anyone know why?'
[07:21] <dooglus> gharz: no, I'm talking about the dvd problems
[07:21] <Hivemind> Hi everyone! I'm installing 6.06 and I need a little bit of help.
[07:21] <dooglus> gharz: kill xine, then try "xine --auto-play=fq --auto-scan dvd"
[07:21] <gharz> dooglus, i'm still having problem.
[07:21] <hastesaver> rak_, how do you know it's not your homepage? :)
[07:22] <dooglus> gharz: what's that tell you?
[07:22] <gharz> dooglus, how do i kill xine?
[07:22] <varsendaggr> Kibou, i am attached directly to a dsl modem  ,    another computer is attached to the usb port of the same modem.   but it is a winblows
[07:22] <rak_> i looked at preferences and my homepage is somethiung different, and when i click the home button in firefox it takes me to that page
[07:22] <rak_> i have no extensions installed
[07:22] <hastesaver> rak_, It's probably some session restore thing that's running. Or the link you use to start Firefox is actually "firefox http://arizonapage..."
[07:23] <Kibou> varsendaggr: the modem is also a router?
[07:23] <gharz> dooglus, xine: command not found
[07:23] <dooglus> gharz: kill %1
[07:23] <varsendaggr> Kibou, kinda sorta
[07:23] <dooglus> gharz: oh, you don't need to kill it if it's not installed :)
[07:23] <lonegeek> hastesaver: thanks it worked perfect!!!
[07:23] <Kibou> so you connect to the internet via dhcp, right?
[07:24] <dooglus> gharz: install package 'xine-ui'
[07:24] <gharz> dooglus, ok i'll do that.
[07:24] <varsendaggr> here is what i know    the nameserver that i get when i install linux dosen't work        i use /nameserver 4.2.2.1
[07:25] <Hivemind> Basically I have two HDDs (The master has WinXP) and I'm trying to put Dapper onto the Slave. I threw in this LiveCD and went through the install (told it to completely over-write hdb). It went okay, when I rebooted I got GRUB error 18 (Too many cylinders), so I put the LiveCD back in and used GPartEd to look how the disk was partitioned. Hdb1 (falgged to bootable) is gigantic (70+ GB). And that is how Ubuntu configured it... Will I ha
[07:25] <SAM_theman> brb testing ym sounds
[07:25] <SAM_theman> *my
[07:25] <hastesaver> lonegeek, glad to be of help. There is probably some other way, but I like using all-powerful apps like mplayer and emacs; there's less to learn :)
[07:26] <slew> so it seems we are in dapper release and the screensaver options are gone forever then?
[07:26] <slew> or is that more of a gnome issue?
[07:26] <lonegeek> does anyone have any ideas on how to fix audio of a video i recorded.....it was really loud so the audio is has too much bass
[07:26] <echostorm> hey guys I installed wine and have a windows 2000 installation. when using winecfg, even after i set my drives i get a Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible in terminal, among other things. its driving me crazy, can anyone help?
[07:27] <Kibou> varsendaggr: I have no idea.. but you probably connect through dhcp so either configure you're router or try to go through "man dhclient.conf" and see if that works (send/request commands) to increase the lease time
[07:27] <Hivemind> Well, I guess I'll go try in #linux.
[07:28] <rak_> hastesaver - i checked the launcher, no references to arizona university webiste, and i have no extensions installed, any more ideas?
[07:28] <varsendaggr> Kibou, i see a send hdcp lease time     and
[07:28] <hastesaver> rak_, where is this? Are you at home or are you using a Arizona University proxy?
[07:28] <SAM_theman> IT Bloody Works
[07:28] <varsendaggr> an expire 2 2000/1/12  what does that mean?
[07:28] <rak_> at home
[07:29] <DustyDingo> hi
[07:29] <DustyDingo> i have problems with gamin
[07:29] <Kibou> varsendaggr: you see that where exactly?
[07:29] <DustyDingo> after running konqeror a gam_server process takes a lot of cpu-time
[07:30] <DustyDingo> killing doesn't help, it appears again subsequently
[07:30] <hastesaver> rak_, what about other browsers? epiphany / konqueror (if you're using KDE) / opera / lynx / whatever you have installed?
[07:30] <IcemanV9> rak_: fx > preferences > general > home page
[07:30] <varsendaggr> commented out in an example /dhcpclient.conf    under Lease{
[07:30] <rak_> i have no affiliation with arizona university, its totally random... this happened to me last time i had an install of ubuntu on this desktop... i'm going to check to see if gDesklets has any affliiation with arizona university because that is the only thing that this install has in common with the last one
[07:30] <DustyDingo> is there anything i can do about?
[07:30] <nickrud> DustyDingo, just kill that gam_server
[07:30] <varsendaggr> there is a renew rebind expire
[07:30] <DustyDingo> nickrud: killing doesn't help, it appears again subsequently
[07:31] <DustyDingo> nickrud: and i don't want to kill it all the time,...
[07:31] <nickrud> DustyDingo, and I was about to say that it'd start again when needed, but without the heavy load
[07:31] <hareem> any one know how to add brother MFC-210c to ubuntu
[07:31] <DustyDingo> nickrud: well, doesn't seem so
[07:31] <nickrud> but yours is not the problem I see a lot
[07:31] <hareem> any one know how to add brother MFC-210c to ubuntu
[07:31] <void^> rak_: you're probably starting firefox with a parameter like %u
[07:31] <DustyDingo> and even if it would help, i don't want to kill this all the time
[07:31] <Kibou> varsendaggr: I'm not sure about dhclient.conf.. I always configured everything on the server side.. just read man dhclient.conf to get info on those options
[07:32] <void^> rak_: it does some sort of autosearch magic and ends up with arizona university for some reason
[07:32] <gharz> dooglus, the command for xine failed.
[07:32] <varsendaggr> Kibou, great
[07:32] <IcemanV9> hareem: system > admin > printing .. just add new printer
[07:32] <hareem> yeah. But it doesnt install my MFC-210C
[07:32] <byrdmeln_> some printers are really hard to add to ubuntu, i know there is stuff for canon and hp printers, did you try to google your printer?
[07:32] <hareem> my printer is not on its list
[07:33] <bathhm> Am trying to upgrade to 6.06 from 5.10, using "upgrade" option in "update.  Get msg "http://koti.mbnet.fi/ ..." hasn't been accessed.  My fault?, or is the site down?
[07:33] <IcemanV9> hareem: ah. i see it is not on the list.
[07:33] <nickrud> DustyDingo, I just noticed that gam_server isn't running here at all
[07:33] <hareem> ubuntu detects the printer but its not adding it to the list
[07:33] <brt> is there a way to get the ubuntu boot splashscreen with a custom compiled kernel?
[07:34] <hareem> so what should i do to get ubuntu to work with it
[07:34] <DustyDingo> nickrud: well, because you haven't run konqueror yet, probably
[07:34] <rak_> void^ - yeah that was it, for some reason the u% was already there so i assumed it was some linux parameter that i didn't know about, thanks
[07:34] <Mikelo> how do i update from breezy without formatting?
[07:35] <Amaranth> !dapper
[07:35] <ubotu> well, dapper is Ubuntu 6.06, the "Dapper Drake" release. Released June 1st 2006
[07:35] <Amaranth> grr
[07:35] <Amaranth> !upgrade
[07:35] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[07:35] <IcemanV9> hareem: try this > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105703
[07:35] <nickrud> DustyDingo, not sure I want to do that :) But nautilus uses gamin also, or did
[07:35] <Boglizk> How do i manually mount a floppy?
[07:36] <alex1> hey guys i just installed ubuntu dapper 64 yesterday and i have a couple of issues, one is when i try and logout, reboot, or shutdown, the monitor looks like it goes into sleep state and doesnt do anything and i have to hard reboot or shutdown
[07:36] <graveson> how do i configure this module - dvb_core
[07:36] <hareem> thanks im looking into that link
[07:36] <Amaranth> Boglizk: mount -t fat /dev/fd0 /path/to/mount/at/
[07:36] <bikini> how do i mount a fat32 partition?
[07:36] <Boglizk> Amaranth, thanks
[07:37] <tylerofl> hey, can someone please tell me how to install a gtk theme?
[07:37] <Smirnov> same thing except find your fat32 /dev partition instead of /dev/fd0 ;)
[07:37] <Amaranth> bikini: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:37] <tylerofl> i tried the +Install theme button in the theme option, but it keeps saying the file format is invalid
[07:37] <tylerofl> .rc
[07:37] <dooglus> ubotu: eft is open, but "update-manager -d" doesn't upgrade to it...
[07:37] <ubotu> ...but eft is already something else...
[07:37] <Frogzoo> !tell tylerofl about themes
[07:38] <Frogzoo> !eft
[07:38] <ubotu> I guess eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt, or try !edgy
[07:38] <Amaranth> dooglus: err, ubotu is a bot
[07:38] <Whoops> trying to get flashplyer for ubuntu 6.06 and download keeps stalling.....any suggests to get it
[07:38] <Amaranth> !edgy
[07:38] <ubotu> methinks edgy is Ubuntu 6.10 DEVELOPMENT, the "Edgy Eft" release. Discussions about and support for edgy take place in #ubuntu+1
[07:39] <Amaranth> heh
[07:39] <byrdmeln_> did you try Automatix  whoops?
[07:39] <varsendaggr> Kibou, how do i make my computer the server?
[07:39] <dooglus> gharz: how?
[07:39] <Whoops> automatix is not good
[07:39] <bikini> how do you perform actions that only root can do?
[07:39] <Boglizk> sudo bash
[07:39] <dooglus> bikini: stick the word 'sudo' in front of them
[07:39] <Amaranth> !automatix
[07:39] <Whoops> it can brak sysem
[07:39] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:39] <scud> does ubuntu come with ncpmount or ncpfs?
[07:40] <scud> for novell
[07:40] <Boglizk> putting sudo in front doesn't always work
[07:40] <hareem> thanks for link man
[07:40] <AngryElf> guys, for whatever reason, flash is not playing sound, any ideas on this?
[07:40] <Boglizk> I know why
[07:40] <Amaranth> scud: not by default, let me see if it's available as a package
[07:40] <Boglizk> happends to me too
[07:40] <Amaranth> AngryElf: let me snag the wiki link
[07:41] <Boglizk> I turn off all music and restart firefox, then it works
[07:41] <gharz> dooglus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15478
[07:41] <Whoops> thanks for suggetions
[07:41] <Whoops> bbl
[07:41] <Amaranth> scud: Nope, those don't seem to be available in Ubuntu. I suppose you can always install them manually...
[07:42] <scud> you use the synaptic package manager search for ncpfs and ipx
[07:42] <christopher> does anyone know how to set up dual monitors on a nvidia geforce fx go5100?
[07:42] <Amaranth> AngryElf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-832969c4301548599ecbe6393e2682a4e343af67
[07:42] <Boglizk> I cant mount and unmount floppys :|
[07:42] <AngryElf> Amaranth, thanx
[07:42] <Boglizk> Terminal works, but not with gnome
[07:43] <Amaranth> scud: oh, i didn't look for ncpfs
[07:43] <Amaranth> !info ncpfs
[07:43] <ubotu> ncpfs: (utilities to use resources from NetWare servers), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.2.6-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 678 kB, Installed size: 2192 kB
[07:43] <JPAULEY> I just install the server version and I need to make changes to the kernel. I downloaded the newest version but make menuconfig crashes on checklist.c -- any ideas from anyone?
[07:43] <Amaranth> JPAULEY: What changes do you need to make?
[07:43] <Kibou> varsendaggr: you don't need a server when you're connected to a router
[07:43] <JPAULEY> Amaranth: I need to enable ethernet bridging
[07:43] <muaddib> I KNOW I WILL GET FLAMMED, but I need to ask I am considering changing from Debian to ubuntu and wanted to ask if anyone in the channel has been in my place and if so why did you choose ubuntu
[07:44] <Amaranth> JPAULEY: You're better off getting the source package of ubuntu's kernel and just changing that one thing.
[07:44] <JPAULEY> Amaranth: that sounds great - how do I do that?
[07:44] <Amaranth> muaddib: Why would that get you flamed?
[07:44] <byrdmeln_> debian and ubuntu is pratically the same thing, ubuntu is just better supported and easier to find answers for
[07:44] <Amaranth> !info linux-source
[07:44] <ubotu> linux-source: (Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.15.22 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 52 kB
[07:45] <DynaStab> hellho
[07:45] <Amaranth> JPAULEY: get the linux-source package
[07:45] <JPAULEY> okay, doing an apt-get install linux-source... thanks... Where does apt-get typically put these files?
[07:45] <a1337> hello, any ideas on why ubuntu only let's me choice 75 hz for my screen refresh rate? i want 60 :(
[07:45] <DynaStab> can i install ubunto from within another distro?
[07:45] <muaddib> Amaranth: In my experience asking IRC question when it comes to comparisons has gotten me flamed
[07:45] <varsendaggr> DynaStab, yes
[07:45] <Amaranth> JPAULEY: probably somewhere under /usr/src/
[07:45] <DynaStab> a1337, why do you want 60
[07:45] <varsendaggr> !install ubuntu
[07:45] <ubotu> varsendaggr: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:46] <varsendaggr> !installubuntu
[07:46] <ubotu> varsendaggr: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:46] <JPAULEY> Amaranth: Thank you for your help
[07:46] <varsendaggr> !install
[07:46] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[07:46] <dooglus> gharz: can you mount the DVD?
[07:46] <a1337> because is what i had with windows, and ran OK
[07:46] <muaddib> byrdmeln_: Better supported... are you saying ubuntu has a larger community or the fact that the maintainer is a corporate org
[07:46] <varsendaggr> DynaStab, i think it goes through even installing from windows
[07:46] <zukalk> can anyone tell me what the info entered in gnome-about-me is for?
[07:47] <boricua> !plugins
[07:47] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, boricua
[07:47] <scud> do you have to instal sshd from apt-get?
[07:47] <scud> !info sshd
[07:47] <Amaranth> muaddib: I dunno if we have a larger community but we have a nicer one. :)
[07:47] <varsendaggr> what is sshd?
[07:47] <Amaranth> scud: Yeah, you have to install openssh-server
[07:47] <scud> sshd daemon
[07:47] <scud> gotcha
[07:47] <dooglus> muaddib: I've been in the opposite position, running ubuntu and considering switching to debian
[07:48] <scud> i know these are silly questions but i'm thinking of names like ssh when its using the proper name
[07:48] <ChrisCrepon> hey!
[07:48] <varsendaggr> muaddib, yeah try to go ask some questions in #debian and all you get is RTFM
[07:48] <muaddib> dooglus: why do you want to switch
[07:48] <staale> good question
[07:48] <varsendaggr> scud, you should try apt-cache search ssh
[07:48] <dooglus> muaddib: that was because I was getting sick of finding bugs, reporting them, submitting patches, and being ignored.  I thought debian might be more receptive to contributions.
[07:48] <Subhuman_> dooglus, pointless really, unless you like to configure everything from scratch, thats why my server is debian, and my desktop ubuntu
[07:48] <muaddib> varsedaggr:  Yes that is true I have enven given that answer myself, but debian channel seems to be very selective in there help. I.E Helping newbies is beneth them
[07:49] <staale> i switched from Gentoo to Ubuntu a week ago, and i'm lovin' it :P
[07:49] <DynaStab> what is Xen?
[07:49] <muaddib> dooglus: So in your opnion ubuntu patch release is completely non existent
[07:49] <dooglus> muaddib: in the end I just installed debian on a new partition, so now I choose each time I boot
[07:49] <Frogzoo> DynaStab: it's an emulator
[07:49] <muaddib> DynaStab: XEN is a virtualization production that is similar to vmware
[07:49] <DynaStab> and its free?
[07:50] <Subhuman_> DynaStab,
[07:50] <dooglus> muaddib: lots of things get patched on ubuntu; I'm not saying they don't
[07:50] <Frogzoo> DynaStab: similar to vmware & qemu
[07:50] <Subhuman_> !zen
[07:50] <ubotu> Subhuman_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:50] <Subhuman_> !xen
[07:50] <ubotu> hmm... xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .
[07:50] <staale> is XEN free?
[07:50] <varsendaggr> muaddib, exactly    and that is no way to grow a community,   a year a go ( about i started using linux    and then i though i had to have a linux geek friend in order to figure stuff out
[07:50] <dooglus> muaddib: but also, lots of patches sit in launchpad being ignored
[07:50] <DynaStab> sweet
[07:50] <a1337> any ideas on how can i make my usb micro to work? or how can i test if it works....
[07:50] <varsendaggr> but with ubuntu people can figure out all the little stuff   all then things that keep noobs form jumping into linux
[07:51] <DynaStab> does it come with xubuntu
[07:51] <dooglus> muaddib: for instance, there are buffer overflows in several breezy packages.  I reported the problem months ago, and last I checked it's still not fixed in the repositories.
[07:51] <bulltitan> is it safe to install nforce drivers from nvidia website?
[07:51] <varsendaggr> we are a DIY society and it is importnat to have that spirit
[07:51] <SAM_theman> Wow
[07:51] <varsendaggr> bullrage, !nvidia
[07:51] <clast> does anyone know of a good how-to describing printer sharing over a network?
[07:51] <varsendaggr> !nvidia
[07:51] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:51] <SAM_theman> I just installled some pretty alsome XCHAt themes
[07:52] <SAM_theman> really funnie
[07:52] <varsendaggr> SAM_theman, like what
[07:52] <Frogzoo> dooglus: that's bad - one of the strengths in ubuntu is supposed to be the speed of security updates
[07:52] <boricua> i installed w32codecs according to wiki but still can
[07:52] <SAM_theman> they are alsome man there the 40 of theme
[07:52] <boricua> can't play a wmv with totem
[07:52] <SAM_theman> *of the,
[07:52] <bulltitan> ok let me see,... its all about sata hdd been recognized as regular ata that's why i'm trying this
[07:52] <SAM_theman> *of them
[07:52] <dooglus> Frogzoo: this is universe, not main.  the affected patches in main were patched quickly, thanks to Martin Pitt
[07:52] <varsendaggr> boricua, use mplayer   it is superior
[07:52] <SAM_theman> Wait let me restart
[07:52] <SAM_theman> brb
[07:53] <DynaStab> hrrrm what uis PAE on xen
[07:53] <Thardas> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu 6.06 x64 and my installer crashed around 92%. I catted /var/log/installer/syslog and the problem seems to be with something called ubiquity.
[07:53] <Pupeno> how do I change the Kubuntu bootsplash to the Ubuntu one ? That one that appears when booting.
[07:53] <Stormx2> I have a nautilus script installed to /usr/share/nautilus_scripts ... how do I use it?
[07:53] <Thardas> "Exception in GTK frontend (invoking crash handler):"
[07:54] <DynaStab> Thardas, did you check the md5sum of the cd before you burned it?  or verify the cd?
[07:54] <bulltitan> any tips on installing proper sata drivers or nforce drivers?
[07:54] <Pupeno> Which is the preferred Ubuntu/Gnome RSS reader these days ?
[07:54] <SAM_theman> Alsome
[07:54] <hurr1cane> im trying to run ubuntu on my laptop and it freezes before the desktop loads
[07:54] <spikeb> Pupeno: firefox has one built in
[07:54] <Frogzoo> Pupeno: sage in ff?
[07:54] <dooglus> Pupeno: liferea is a good one.  It's preferred by me :)
[07:54] <ajopaul> !java
[07:54] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[07:54] <XVampireX> Pupeno, liferea
[07:54] <Subhuman_> Pupeno, try "apt-cache search rss aggregator"
[07:54] <Thardas> DynaStab: nope. Do you have any other tips if that doesn't to the trick?
[07:54] <Pupeno> Frogzoo: what do you meen ?
[07:55] <boricua> varsendaggr: i dont see that in add/remove
[07:55] <Subhuman_> Pupeno, I use "blam"
[07:55] <hurr1cane> can someone help me? i am trying to run ubuntu on my laptop and it freezes when the desktop background is displayed
[07:55] <Frogzoo> Pupeno: in ff -> tools -> extensions -> get more extensions & find & install "sage"
[07:55] <Pupeno> Frogzoo: oh, ok.
[07:56] <SAM_theman> yo guys need some help here
[07:56] <varsendaggr> boricua, you need to enable multiverse and universe      !mplayer
[07:56] <bulltitan> is there any nforce drivers in ubuntu's repo?
[07:56] <aris> hi people
[07:56] <SAM_theman> been asking this questionthe pass 2 days
[07:56] <Thardas> DynaStab: oh well, I'll come back if the cd is verified to be perfect. ->
[07:56] <varsendaggr> bulltitan, yes
[07:56] <spikeb> whats up SAM_theman
[07:56] <dooglus> SAM_theman: spit it out
[07:56] <varsendaggr> !nvidia
[07:56] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:56] <varsendaggr> !mplayer
[07:56] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:56] <dooglus> SAM_theman: that's enough preamble :)
[07:56] <SAM_theman> ok hold on
[07:56] <hurr1cane> can someone help me? i am trying to run ubuntu on my laptop and it freezes when the desktop background is displayed
[07:56] <boricua> varsendaggr: i did
[07:56] <ben42> (DVB-T) does anybody know, how to solve that problem: tzap -r "ZDF" gives that error: error while parsing inversion (syntax error)
[07:56] <aris> I have some troubles compiling lirc-modules... I don't get why, installing linux-sources gives me a 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1 kernel in place of 2.6.15-23-amd64-k8 ...
[07:57] <varsendaggr> boricua, are you looking for mplayer?
[07:57] <varsendaggr> did you update
[07:57] <bulltitan> should i get it straight with apt-get varsendaggr? it is not for vga but for my mobo and sata hdds
[07:57] <SAM_theman> I always get this error when trying to lauch my games or my important program UT2004
[07:57] <dooglus> hurr1cane: when I've had that before, switching to a virtual terminal and running "pkill esd" has always fixed it
[07:57] <boricua> yes
[07:57] <boricua> ok i see it
[07:57] <varsendaggr> bulltitan, ohhh i don't know then
[07:57] <varsendaggr> sorry
[07:57] <SAM_theman> wait is pastebin down?
[07:57] <bulltitan> it's ok
[07:57] <spikeb> hmm
[07:57] <boricua> !paste
[07:57] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[07:58] <DynaStab> HEY
[07:58] <JPAULEY> Amaranth: Will the linux source that I got from apt-get have the same configuration as the one that came with the server version? So if make a single change it should only affect that one part, right?
[07:58] <gnomefreak> nope
[07:58] <dooglus> SAM_theman: you're losing the crowd here - there's only so much tension we can take
[07:58] <gnomefreak> SAM_theman: its not down
[07:58] <Echelon-H> im trying to add stuff to Sessions, but how can I determine the order?
[07:58] <spikeb> SAM_theman: http://pastebin.com/ try that one
[07:58] <Amaranth> JPAULEY: i think linux-source builds all of the kernels
[07:58] <dooglus> spikeb: that's the one that's down...
[07:58] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php
[07:58] <spikeb> Echelon-H:  i think it executes from top to bottom
[07:58] <SAM_theman> i get that
[07:58] <Amaranth> JPAULEY: you'd have to figure out which one to change, i've never done it before
[07:58] <spikeb> SAM_theman: use the ubuntu URL then
[07:59] <Echelon-H> spikeb, I know, and I how can I control that?
[07:59] <Echelon-H> It wont let me change the order
[07:59] <Echelon-H> it always sorts tghem alphabetically or something
[07:59] <spikeb> Echelon-H: you can't drag n drop?
[07:59] <spikeb> hmm
[07:59] <Echelon-H> nope
[07:59] <JPAULEY> Amaranth: Correct, but the source that I downloaded should be the same settings as the one that came with ubuntu is what I am getting at ,, correct?
[07:59] <SAM_theman> how i use that
[07:59] <SAM_theman> I am so used to pastebin
[07:59] <spikeb> Echelon-H: let me fire up my session thing and see if i can figure out
[07:59] <Amaranth> JPAULEY: yeah, it's 2.6.15 + ubuntu patches
[07:59] <spikeb> Echelon-H: the number in the order column determins it
[07:59] <GullyFoyle> how do i get dapper to detect my sblive soundcard? i lost sound when i upgraded.
[08:00] <spikeb> Echelon-H: at least in the order tab
[08:00] <spikeb> Echelon-H: er, the current session tab
[08:01] <SAM_theman> whats the ubutnu url
[08:01] <Echelon-H> spikeb, I dont seem to have any numbers here
[08:01] <lwizardl> ubuntu.org
[08:01] <Echelon-H> spikeb, System > Preferences > Sessions.
[08:01] <spikeb> Echelon-H: second tab
[08:01] <DynaStab> hmm does xen work on 2.4.x
[08:01] <GullyFoyle> the uotput from lspci -v shows my card, but it's on the same IRQ as my nv video card. could that be why i have no sound?
[08:01] <Frogzoo> spikeb: ubunut.org
[08:02] <spikeb> Echelon-H: what you can do is add programs through the last tab, log out then back in, and reorder them in the current session tab
[08:02] <boricua> varsendaggr: it worked thanks
[08:02] <TSWoodV> Anyone here seeing any video strangeness in Dapper?  Got a Compaq laptop that places a grid of dots over buttons in most of the Gnome applications until you mouse over the button - then it clears up.
[08:02] <TSWoodV> It didn't do this with Breezy.
[08:02] <Echelon-H> spikeb, wtf?
[08:02] <Frogzoo> spikeb: actually ubunut.com
[08:03] <varsendaggr> boricua, mplayer and mcoder are really powerfull     you can use -zoom 3 to make your movie streachable
[08:03] <ChrisCrepon> I just ordered 10 CDs
[08:03] <ChrisCrepon> ez
[08:03] <yggdrasil> hello, i have a wierd problem i was playing around with kde and i set a theme. and then iw ent back to gnome and the theme had sort of transfered over there. jsut colors and stuff and so i changed some theme stuff in gnome and now my gnome wont start up. how can i erase that sort of stuff .. like in my profile i assume there would be justa folder to erase ?
[08:04] <varsendaggr> yggdrasil, omg   this is why you need to stick with one DE
[08:04] <bulltitan> any idea how to set dma on sata hard drives?
[08:04] <varsendaggr> !!!!
[08:04] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, varsendaggr
[08:04] <boricua> varsendaggr: in order to get new people these things should work by default
[08:04] <Knifa> hay!
[08:04] <ajopaul> !mplayer
[08:04] <yggdrasil> well yea i just thought id try it out. now im in console. :(
[08:04] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:05] <SAM_theman> spikeb, whats the uuntu url
[08:05] <dooglus> SAM_theman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[08:05] <Echelon-H> SAM_theman, www.ubuntu.com
[08:05] <Echelon-H> SAM_theman, www.ubuntu.org
[08:05] <dooglus> SAM_theman: it kind of depends what you're wanting
[08:05] <SAM_theman> Thanks dooglus
[08:06] <Knifa> How do I kill X so I can install my graphics drivers?
[08:06] <yggdrasil> varsendaggr so what do you recomend ?
[08:06] <boricua> Knifa: init 3
[08:06] <Knifa> kay
[08:06] <Knifa> thanks
[08:06] <SAM_theman> Ok heres the problem i've been having going on for 3 days not (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15479)
[08:06] <varsendaggr> boricua, i agree     i have no idea why mplayer isn't standard
[08:06] <varsendaggr> why isn't mplayer standard?
[08:06] <Locke> mplayer dont play shit for me
[08:07] <Locke> i gotta use xine
[08:07] <yggdrasil> mplayers great
[08:07] <boricua> MOST LIKELY for legal reasons
[08:07] <varsendaggr> how wants to be part of a renderfarm?
[08:07] <yggdrasil> it palys everthing for me
[08:07] <Locke> and i still cant play wmv
[08:07] <Locke> and i'm having a DRI problem
[08:07] <dooglus> is there any way to 'unload' the Java VM from firefox after visiting a page with a java applet on it?  firefox always runs very slow once I've dirtied it with java
[08:07] <varsendaggr> Locke, i can play wmv with mplayer    :P
[08:07] <boricua> locke i just install mplayer and it played wmv for me
[08:07] <yggdrasil> locke di you load up the um... codec-dev
[08:07] <Scorpmoon> what is the equavilent of ATItool for windows, in linux?
[08:07] <TSWoodV> Any known video issues with ATI video cards, specifically Radeon IGP 3xM on laptops?
[08:07] <yggdrasil> cant remember what its called
[08:07] <Scorpmoon> for keeping your ATI card from running full speed (fan)
[08:08] <Locke> im not sure how to get direct rendering to work on my voodoo3, though i installed all the packages
[08:08] <yggdrasil> so how can i erase my color themes for he dm's ?
[08:08] <Locke> the glide3 and stuff
[08:08] <Locke> umm i thought i loaded a codec package but lemme check again
[08:08] <Frogzoo> Scorpmoon: fireglcontrol
[08:08] <Scorpmoon> thx
[08:08] <Sivik> has anyone been having problems with the us server for apt-get?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> !us
[08:09] <ubotu> **NB** The US Archives are having frequent issues, remove the "us" out of your  sources.list by typing >> sudo sed -i 's/us\.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list <<in a terminal (Menu applications accessories terminal)
[08:09] <Frogzoo> Scorpmoon: sry, that wont do your fan
[08:09] <charles> I'm trying to compile an opengl progrm, how do i get the required include 'gl.h"
[08:09] <Scorpmoon> oh
[08:09] <Sivik> thanks gnomefreak
[08:09] <RadiantFire> charles: there is probably a glx-dev package you need to install
[08:09] <lzhang> how do I make a symlink to a samba share on another box?
[08:09] <speedsix> Can anyone think why if I try to logout while Mythtv is running I get a box saying 'Your session has been saved' and it refusing to log out. Only happens with this app and save session on logout isn;t ticked
[08:09] <gnomefreak> Sivik: yw
[08:09] <Scorpmoon> i need tell the ATI card to keep a certain temperature... not to blow the fan so fast it is always cold
[08:09] <Scorpmoon> and noisy
[08:09] <pyroride> hi all.
[08:10] <justinagin> in->administration->networking there is no option for ethernet why?
[08:10] <GullyFoyle> do i need to go into the bios to change IRQ for my soundcard?
[08:10] <Sivik> justinagin, what are you trying to do?
[08:10] <Sivik> GullyFoyle, yes
[08:10] <spikeb> GullyFoyle: most likely
[08:10] <pyroride> im a new ubuntu user and I seem to be having a problem with my screen (17" NEC LCD).. often some words on the screen, in different programs, look blurry.. sometimes there are clear words and fuzzy words in the same sentences for example.
[08:10] <GullyFoyle> should i just pick an unused one?
[08:11] <Sivik> pyroride, what kind of video card?
[08:11] <pyroride> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> anyone running Ubuntu on one of the new Dell Widescreen displays?
[08:11] <grampajoe> If I find a file with ls and grep, how do I find what directory it's in?
[08:11] <pyroride> i used easyubuntu to install drivers.
[08:11] <Sivik> do you have the ati drivers installed for that card?
[08:11] <Sivik> !tell pyroride about ati
[08:11] <gnomefreak> brb while this is downloading ;)
[08:11] <boricua> justinagin: i have it there
[08:11] <karim> hi
[08:12] <Frogzoo> grampajoe: pwd will tell you which directory you're in
[08:12] <Sivik> pyroride, look at what i sent you in pm
[08:12] <SAM_theman> Karim, hi
[08:12] <karim> when I dist-upgrade this 28 packages, they install but then, if I dist-upgrade again, apt install thems again !!
[08:12] <justinagin> since its not there i cant get connect
[08:12] <halibut> I installed ubuntu, but now I am using KDE, a lot of the programs look really ugly though, is there a ubuntu version of firefox and a different kubuntu version?
[08:12] <karim> halibut, no
[08:13] <dooglus> halibut: if you switch back to GNOME the programs will stop being ugly.
[08:13] <Echelon-H> hey I installed compiz and when I go to gconf-editor I don't see anything related to compiz, can anyone help?
[08:13] <karim> halibut, you can use konqueror though
[08:13] <grampajoe> Frogzoo: I don't think that's what I need to do
[08:13] <halibut> karim, I wolud like to use firefox but for it to not be so grey and ugly :)
[08:13] <speedsix> Anyone running ubuntu dapper?
[08:13] <dooglus> speedsix: lots of us
[08:14] <karim> halibut, like kde you mean ?
[08:14] <Frogzoo> speedsix: plenty, probly most people here
[08:14] <saxin> yeah
[08:14] <SAM_theman> Is there a way on ubuntu to play two things at once dealing with sounds
[08:14] <halibut> karim, I come here for help not for you to tell me what you think of a certain window manager
[08:14] <speedsix> I have a problem logging out while mythfrontend is running, it pops up a dialog 'saying your session has been saved' and refuses to logout. Doesn't do it with any other apps
[08:14] <andymac> Everytime I boot ubuntu from the hdd, it stops loading after Mounting Root Filesystem. If I boot using the recovery kernel, I get a kernel panic. I have the livecd here, and I can boot up with that. I'm wondering if there would be a way to restore the kernel from the livecd boot, I don't want to lose everything with a reformat :(
[08:15] <ChrisCrepon> it doesn't support polyphonic sound? o_O
[08:15] <dooglus> SAM_theman: there is, you use some kind of sound daemon.  I always found it introduces too much delay though.
[08:15] <halibut> karim, it doesn't matter what you think about, I have used both, you have used both, we have both decided which we prefer, so either help or keep quiet
[08:15] <SAM_theman> Can u please tell em
[08:15] <SAM_theman> *me
[08:15] <Sivik> andymac: then there is probably some issue with how you have your paritions
[08:15] <speedsix> SAM_theman, yes you need to configure asound.conf, there are a few good posts on the ubuntu forum. Or upgrade to Dapper which does it 'out of the box'
[08:15] <Equin> How do i check how much space i have left on my disk?
[08:15] <TSWoodV> !tell me about ati
[08:15] <SAM_theman> O  I am on Dapper
[08:16] <karim> halibut, kde is ugly, period
[08:16] <Frogzoo> Equin: df -h
[08:16] <flash> Installed wallpaper-tray using synaptic, but it won't respond to menu clicks and throws "libglade-WARNING **: could not find signal handler" to console. Anyone got any ideas how to fix it?
[08:16] <SAM_theman> But it would say error
[08:16] <speedsix> SAM_theman, what sort of error?
[08:16] <andymac> Sivik : I don't think so, it worked fine for awhile, then one time I rebooted and it hasen't worked since. I only have 1 partition, using all the hdd space.
[08:16] <saxin> Equin, I'm not sure.. but to list up partition try to use: df -h
[08:16] <SAM_theman> Look i am playing music now but when my pal writes to me on msn it gives me and error and says another sound device is in use
[08:16] <speedsix> SAM_theman, and what programs are you having problems with as I belive old OSS apps still hog the sound card
[08:17] <Equin> thanks, that worked great
[08:17] <SAM_theman> well All my sounds work
[08:17] <speedsix> SAM_theman, Try and set all your programs to use ALSA
[08:17] <SAM_theman> but I can't like play a game and talk to my pal on VOIP
[08:17] <Sivik> andymac: then there might be an error with your grub settings
[08:18] <dooglus> SAM_theman: the problem is that lots of programs use different ways of configuring how they play sounds.  It's all a bit of a mess to be honest.
[08:18] <speedsix> SAM_theman, if you start a program that uses OSS it will tie up the sound card so other apps can't play sounds. If the app will only do OSS try running 'aoss yourappname'
[08:18] <speedsix> dooglus, isn't it just
[08:18] <speedsix> getting better though
[08:18] <dooglus> speedsix: I hadn't noticed :)
[08:18] <Echelon-H> whats battlehorse v1?
[08:19] <speedsix> if everything used alsa it would be hunky dory
[08:19] <christian_> hey guys, so i just updated to 6.06, and my mplayer wont work. I get an error box, but its only up for a split second, so i cant read it. hen the porgram quits, any ideas?
[08:19] <dooglus> speedsix: one benefit of it is that when a buddy sends me a message I don't get annoying sounds :)
[08:19] <speedsix> lol ;)
[08:19] <andymac> Okay, just riddle me this, is it possible to resize partitions?
[08:19] <SAM_theman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15479
[08:19] <SAM_theman> thats the problem i have with my games
[08:19] <dooglus> christian_: use mplayer-nogui - then the error message won't disappear
[08:19] <SAM_theman>  And its pissing me off
[08:20] <dooglus> andymac: maybe it is and maybe it isn't.    yessssss.
[08:20] <andymac> kkk
[08:20] <speedsix> Does anyone use Alltray?
[08:20] <christian_> ok, im not all that great at linux, so i just type that in the terminal? cuz that didnt work
[08:21] <dooglus> andymac: don't go!  I was going to tell you about ext2resize - an ext2 filesystem resizer
[08:21] <charles> hmm... having trouble finding the package which provides "gl/gl.h"
[08:21] <christian_> dooglus: ok, im not all that great at linux, so i just type that in the terminal? cuz that didnt work
[08:21] <speedsix> Has anyone had a problem adding things to Sessions>Startup Programs. I have added a few that refuse to start on login
[08:22] <dooglus> charles: slang-slirp provides /usr/share/doc/slang-slirp/examples/opengl/gl.h.gz - is that close enough?
[08:22] <prahal> hi does the default iso dowload ship a livecd ?
[08:22] <bullrage> charles, xlibmesa-gl-dev has gl.h
[08:22] <spikeb> yes prahal
[08:23] <madewokherd`> is there a way I can force apt-get to reinstall something?
[08:23] <prahal> spikeb: thx
[08:23] <TSWoodV> How does one file a bug report for Ubuntu?
[08:23] <bullrage> charles, usr/X11R6/include/GL/gl.h :: provided by xlibmesa-gl-dev
[08:23] <lwizardl> hi
[08:24] <speedsix> TSWoodV, there's a link on the main page under the support section I think
[08:24] <speedsix> I filed one earlier but tbh the system they use is a bit confusing
[08:24] <lwizardl> is there a guide for using the lamp option on the 6.06 lts?
[08:24] <Sivik> madewokherd`, apt-get -f package-name
[08:24] <xpc> /server irc.egochat.hu/6667
[08:24] <xpc> :D:D
[08:24] <xpc> :PP
[08:24] <Sivik> -f is supposed to fix
[08:24] <r0ver> hello, do you know how to solve the broken packages problem
[08:25] <Sivik> r0ver, apt-get -f install
[08:25] <xpc> #NagySzoba
[08:25] <xpc> :(
[08:25] <Frogzoo> !tell lwizardl about lamp
[08:25] <r0ver> mmm no: http://paste.plone.org/4641
[08:25] <r0ver> Sivik: it didn't work
[08:25] <Echelon-H> what the battlehorse v1?
[08:26] <charles> bullrage, I don't have that package in my repo
[08:26] <xpc> !hu
[08:26] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[08:26] <r0ver> http://paste.plone.org/4642 here's the complete sentence
[08:27] <r0ver> ubotu: koszonom szeipen,
[08:27] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, r0ver
[08:27] <speedsix> I have added the command 'alltray gnome-terminal' to my startup programs yet it doesn't start on boot, works fine from a terminal. Any ideas?
[08:27] <Sivik> r0ver: just type apt-get -f install, without the package
[08:27] <ic56> !bugs
[08:27] <ic56> !bug
[08:27] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:27] <Echelon-H> what the battlehorse v1?
[08:27] <Frogzoo> speedsix: try with a full path
[08:27] <Sivik> Echelon-H, google it
[08:27] <Sivik> !battlehorse
[08:27] <ubotu> Sivik: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:28] <speedsix> Frogzoo, ok. It's odd in that 'alltray firefox' works?
[08:28] <xpc> !seen gaben
[08:28] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'gaben', xpc
[08:28] <liquoredonlife> xpc, I have not seen gaben.
[08:29] <bullrage> charles, mesa-common-dev
[08:29] <Stormx2> !seen God
[08:29] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'god', Stormx2
[08:29] <liquoredonlife> Stormx2, I have not seen God.
[08:29] <Stormx2> Aww.
[08:29] <ic56> :-)
[08:29] <particleman> hello everyone...running Dapper on a dell 710m, Broadcom 4318 chipset, and I've been able to get wireless working exactly once
[08:29] <bullrage> charles, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189704
[08:30] <particleman> then I promptly forgot the full syntax of the command used, and it got buried in my history
[08:30] <TSWoodV> speedsix, thx
[08:30] <particleman> I know I'm missing the route to my router
[08:30] <particleman> although that said, some automatic detection/scanning would be nice too, if possible
[08:30] <particleman> it's annoying having to slip back to Windows to get online outside of home
[08:30] <ic56> particleman: route add default <router's IP number>
[08:31] <particleman> ic-thanks
[08:31] <Frogzoo> particleman: less ~/.bash_history
[08:31] <particleman> oh
[08:31] <particleman> cool
[08:31] <particleman> thanks
[08:31] <Echelon-H> Sivik, everything I found refers to the one sentence I am reading about XGL. there is no further information.
[08:31] <ic56> particleman: yw!  You should add it to the config files to make the change more permanent though..
[08:32] <mythicness> I am trying to install kubuntu from live cd, but when I specify it to use my 35GB ext3 partition it says "Invalid mount point"
[08:32] <christian_> ok, so i used to be able to use mplayer from the gui menu, but now it pops up an error message that disappears before I can read it, and the program quits. It does, however, work when I open files from the terminal, doesn anyone know what might be going on
[08:32] <mythicness> (I am triple booting on a macbook pro)
[08:32] <mythicness> any ideas?
[08:32] <ic56> particleman: edit /etc/network/interfaces .  You need a "gateway <router's IP number> in the interface's stanza.
[08:32] <christian_> and this is right after i upgraded to 6.06
[08:33] <bullrage> christian_, I'm guessing it is something to do with it not being able to contact the sound daemon
[08:34] <christian_> bullrage: i dont know what that means, how would I go about fixing it?
[08:34] <bullrage> christian_, System -> Preferences -> Sound. At the bottom, is the correct sound card set as default?
[08:34] <Ron_o> christian_, I had some problems with other media players. Aviplay, for one.
[08:34] <alexander> can someone pass me please their sources.list for dapper? im on debian and i want to try the xgl packages
[08:34] <alexander> for amd64
[08:34] <Ron_o> I ran it as root <gksudo aviplay> and it works now.
[08:34] <orbin> is the ati.com driver + dapper not an option yet?
[08:34] <troy_s> ron_o:  bad idea.
[08:34] <Ron_o> I don't know anything about yours..
[08:34] <crashzor> i need same help whit dsp is there a software mixer or sameting like a progamma dat makes like dsp drivers and then mix the data and send them to /dev/dsp ?
[08:35] <Ron_o> Troy_s... it's not root now. :)
[08:35] <Ron_o> bad idea because....?
[08:35] <alexander> i hate that you ubuntu guys get everything before debian
[08:35] <troy_s> ron_o:  any app that requires root is very poorly designed.
[08:35] <Rastas> Ubuntu supports the mount of ntfs win2k/winxp partitions?
[08:35] <christian_> bullrage: I actually dont know what I have, but I know that mplayer worked before I installed 6.06, and I never chose another sound card from the list before, the only option I have is intel ICH5
[08:35] <Sir_Brizz> haha better package maintainers
[08:35] <Sir_Brizz> Rastas: yes
[08:35] <Ron_o> no, it was only root for a few minutes..
[08:35] <Rastas> excellent
[08:35] <troy_s> alexander:  its more about growth -- everyone benefits.
[08:35] <Ron_o> I don't know what it did to make it work. I'm guessing nothing.
[08:35] <troy_s> ron_o:  yes but requiring root to dig new paths and such is poor.
[08:36] <christian_> bullrage: my sound card came with the computer in a package kinda thing, ive never had a problem with it before
[08:36] <Ron_o> yah, I can see what you mean.
[08:36] <alexander> troy_s, true... but ubuntu benefits BEFORE debian!!!
[08:36] <troy_s> orbin:  i think ati's driver is in there.
[08:36] <orbin> Rastas: read-only
[08:36] <Xero> Hello, I am trying to install ubuntu from a live cd but it takes like an hour and freezes on step 2/6.
[08:36] <alexander> :)
[08:36] <bullrage> christian_, I'm not sure if this will work.. but run the media player again. The message might appear if you type in terminal 'dmesg'
[08:36] <Ron_o> after 6.06 some apps like my web browser seems as if it can't read or write to my main partition..
[08:36] <troy_s> alexander:  nature of community projects.  many people firmly believe in ubuntu, hence it gains momentum.
[08:36] <bullrage> I'm new too, but that's what I'd try
[08:36] <orbin> troy_s: where? the repos?  not the proprietary one.  dapper's won't let me resume from suspend.
[08:37] <crashzor> can samebody help me searching a Dsp "software" mixer ?
[08:37] <troy_s> orbin:  well the 'proprietary' one i think you refer to is actually default with NO proprietary stuffs.
[08:37] <Xero> Hello, I am trying to install ubuntu from a live cd but it takes like an hour and freezes on step 2/6.
[08:37] <troy_s> orbin:  enable universe and multiverse
[08:37] <alexander> troy_s, i agree, and i would like to use it, but never managed to install on amd64 system... debian did though
[08:37] <troy_s> and
[08:37] <troy_s> !ati
[08:37] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[08:37] <christian_> bullrage: it came up wiht a lot of stuff
[08:37] <christian_> bullrage: but I dont see anything on mplayer
[08:37] <troy_s> alexander:  i run it on my dual core amd for about two years now.
[08:37] <particleman> ic-the route add default command gives me no such device
[08:38] <Di42lo> My ubuntu toolbar is full with icons ...how can i move him to the left or right ?
[08:38] <troy_s> alexander:  if you try, and post your problems here, the ubuntu folks will surely help you through it.
[08:38] <particleman> and how would I add to which config file?
[08:38] <troy_s> di42lo:  right click unlock, right click move.
[08:38] <crashzor> Xero, the new order live cds have disk damage on them
[08:38] <Ron_o> Xero, I don't why that is but for starters you must md5 your iso and md5 your burnt CD to make sure everything is legit.
[08:38] <troy_s> ron_o:  damn good advice
[08:38] <Ron_o> I don't know why it's freezing on you.
[08:38] <bullrage> christian_, can you hear sounds in other applications?
[08:38] <tim> im having problems with viewing mpg video. i have sound but no video. can someone help?
[08:38] <alexander> troy_s, no way? how did you install??? I had the NMI dazed and confused error on ubuntu and it would never get any further than that... on debian the error didnt show up???
[08:38] <Di42lo> troy_s: the toolbar itself..
[08:38] <Rastas> orbin, that sucks, so i cant interchange files between both systems
[08:39] <troy_s> xero:  ALWAYS validate your install media.  it could be bad ink, could be bad download, could be flakey write, etc.
[08:39] <Xero> crashzor: So what should  I do?
[08:39] <alexander> troy_s, i have a dual amd64 opteron 250 here
[08:39] <troy_s> di42lo:  each icon is usually locked.
[08:39] <troy_s> alexander:  get on the ubuntu wagon then
[08:39] <alexander> troy_s, can i ask what config you have?
[08:39] <troy_s> alexander:  mine runs flawlessly.
[08:39] <crashzor> Xero, Ron_o Xero, I don't why that is but for starters you must md5 your iso and md5 your burnt CD to make sure everything is legit.
[08:39] <Sir_Brizz> Rastas, you can get an experimental ntfs write driver
[08:39] <gharz> dooglus, i was able to play my vcd using vlc... but i need to open it manually ... Open File->Disc & select VCD.
[08:39] <troy_s> alexander:  4 gigs of ram, dual core x2 3800
[08:39] <Xero> Kk
[08:39] <Xero> brb
[08:39] <alexander> troy_s, any NMI errors?
[08:39] <Ron_o> Xero, check out the wiki for md5'ing.
[08:40] <christian_> bullrage: mplayer works when I open it using the terminal, i think it has something to do with the gui layout of 6.06
[08:40] <troy_s> alexander:  proprietary laden nforce board though... might switch to a SIS / VIA based one soon.
[08:40] <Sir_Brizz> Rastas, or you can create a small FAT32 partition to do the teansferring through
[08:40] <orbin> troy_s: by proprietary, i mean the ati.com one.  the option to use it is only listed under the breezy instructions on the wiki page. maybe it just needs to be updated.
[08:40] <alexander> troy_s, any NMI errors?
[08:40] <troy_s> alexander:  i had a few with my earlier ati laden board, but i think all the kernel upgrades have taken care of that (i have since given it and the 64bit chip away).  my box runs flawlessly now.
[08:41] <troy_s> orbin:  dapper has it in multi possibly?
[08:41] <sp00nyG> how do you turn off tooltips in gnome?  i cant seem to find how to do this anywhere.
[08:41] <tim> im having problems with mpg playback in totem. there is sound but no video. can someone help?
[08:41] <alexander> troy_s, install from how? the new dapper livecd or the "alternative" cd?
[08:41] <troy_s> tim:  you probably don't have the video codec installed for a given wrapper...
[08:42] <troy_s> alex:  i think everything is on the one disk now -- the live one...
[08:42] <ic56> Is it possible to start an X client app on one system and display on that system but control it from a keyboard located elsewhere?
[08:42] <tim> troy_s: what video codec do i need
[08:42] <troy_s> alexander:  if you want safety, do a clean install -- upgrades are still subject to flake.
[08:42] <troy_s> tim:  what wrapper are you using?  have you learned about mplayer's info output in a console?
[08:42] <particleman> er again
[08:42] <particleman> and still
[08:42] <tim> troy_s: im using totem
[08:42] <troy_s> particleman:  what chipset?
[08:43] <troy_s> tim:  what wrapper?  avi?
[08:43] <alexander> troy_s, i tried that severall times... but no luck... anything you could recommend to do a "safe" install?
[08:43] <troy_s> tim:  under movie properties iirc you can view the listed audio and video codec.
[08:43] <orbin> Seveas: any chance of you putting fglrx into your dapper repos?  or are the breezy packages compatible?
[08:43] <troy_s> alexander:  if you downloaded the new amd64 desktop (?) iso, md5sum it, burn it, then test it, and it STILL bombs, you will need to document the issues and come back here so that we can deal in specifics.
[08:44] <acke_> Is there a tool to build a java app to a .bin includable??
[08:44] <troy_s> orbin:  fglrx are in the dapper repos!
[08:44] <orbin> ic56: could be wrong, but someone said ssh -X ?
[08:44] <tim> troy _s: where can i get that info on totem
[08:44] <r0ver> is it possible to redo the dependencies list ?
[08:44] <crashzor> nobody ever made or seen a progame white makes virtraul dsp inputs and mix them to /dev/dsp ( sins my sound can't is not suport hardware mixing )
[08:44] <particleman> troy_s-Broadcom 4318
[08:44] <r0ver> the apt-get install -f doesn't solve the packages problem
[08:44] <troy_s> ic56:  ssh does everything
[08:44] <particleman> I've gotten it to work right precisely once
[08:44] <orbin> troy_s: yes, but afaik, that's the ubuntu driver, not ati.com's.
[08:44] <troy_s> particleman:  go buy a 20 dollar usb plug or something ;)
[08:44] <rendo> Does anyone know of a custom wiki website that allows you to create a private wiki that requires registered users to edit?
[08:44] <troy_s> particleman: and send hatemail to broadcom
[08:45] <troy_s> orbin:  pretty certain it is there.
[08:45] <troy_s> rendo:  mediawiki does all that
[08:45] <troy_s> rendo:  as does moin
[08:45] <particleman> oh so tempting
[08:45] <particleman> in so many ways
[08:45] <ic56> orbin: I don't think that would work -- it would forward both the keyboard *and* screen.  I want to type on one computer but display on another.
[08:45] <troy_s> rendo:  mediawiki has extensive howtos on how to do that at their site.
[08:45] <particleman> any recommendations for Linux-friendly stuff?
[08:45] <crashzor> nobody ever made or seen a progame white makes virtraul dsp inputs and mix them to /dev/dsp ( sins my sound can't is not suport hardware mixing )  if samebody is willing to help me place do :p
[08:45] <rendo> Thanks Troy
[08:45] <Sir_Brizz> ic56: Synergy
[08:45] <troy_s> particleman:  there is a linux wifi site out there.  but if you are going to vote, use your money to vote for a vendor who actually SUPPORTS open source... not accidentally so.
[08:45] <gus_> can apt-proxy manage ubuntu and debian packages ?
[08:46] <orbin> ic56: just a stab hearing it from another discussion. sorry.
[08:46] <Xero> Meh
[08:46] <Sir_Brizz> ic56: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[08:46] <particleman> I'm with it
[08:46] <Xero> I know I sound like a complete and utter idiot, but I don't know how to do this verifying thing.
[08:46] <troy_s> particleman:  then send them mail telling them that you chose them because of their stance on open source.  if companies don't know that their internal decisions are working / not working, they won't change.
[08:46] <particleman> but since I am, I'm open to suggestions :)
[08:46] <troy_s> xero:  its easy brother.
[08:46] <troy_s> xero:  md5sum <TARGET>
[08:46] <Xero> Huh o_O
[08:46] <troy_s> xero:  compare the key that is dumped to the known key available at the downloading source in an md5 sum text file.
[08:47] <alexander> troy_s, specific: "NMI dazed and confused" error while booting... every time... did a mem check on the machine... everything is fine... debian does not show the NMI error and booted fine... dont know what else to tell you...
[08:47] <christian_> bullrage: and rythmbox is screwed up to, it cant read mp3's or anything, but I can listen to music in audacity, so i dont think its the sound card
[08:47] <troy_s> alexander:  what is your northbridge/southbridge?
[08:47] <troy_s> alexander:  is ati in there somewhere?
[08:47] <Xero> troy: I thought there was a program that could do this for you? XD
[08:47] <tim> troy_s: do you know the command line to find out the codecs supported by totem?
[08:47] <troy_s> christian_:  strictly codec releated... rhythm  uses gstreamer's plugins.
[08:47] <bullrage> christian_, sounds like you don't have the correct codecs
[08:48] <troy_s> tim:  depends on what you installed via libs.  the open source way uses lower level tools provided by others.
[08:48] <gavagai> Xero, exactly, the program is 'md5sum' like he just said.  :)  you type that in a terminal.
[08:48] <troy_s> xero:  md5sum blah.iso
[08:48] <lampshade> is there a shortcut that lets you do the previous command with new args in bash?  Like !! but with no args so I could just do like the previous command nslookup withnewargshere   I swore there was one.  !! is the whole last command, but that's not what I want, just the command, no args
[08:48] <troy_s> xero:  wait.  compare result with md5sum.txt on website or whatever it might be called.  if they match, all is good regarding download.
[08:48] <alexander> troy_s, i let it stall on the NMI error several times, for like 10 mins, didnt move... its an amd dual opteron 250 with nvidia graphics chipset and gygabyte server/workstation MB, can get you the model number if you want
[08:48] <bullrage> christian_, apt-get the following packages..
[08:48] <troy_s> alexander:  ok so give it boot params...
[08:48] <tim> troy_s: so what should i do? i installed easy ubuntu and i cant watch mov or mpg videos
[08:49] <troy_s> alexander:  probably acpi related so you will need to stop those with kernel params.
[08:49] <troy_s> ubotu, tell tim about RestrictedFormats
[08:49] <bullrage> christian_, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.10-gl, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[08:49] <troy_s> tim:  don't support proprietary closed source codecs is the best way to make it easier for everyone
[08:49] <ic56> Yes! synergy indeed seems to be the answer to using a keyboard on one computer and a monitor on another
[08:49] <troy_s> ic56:  ssh can do it too :)
[08:50] <troy_s> ic56:  there is VERY little that ssh can't do.
[08:50] <alexander> troy_s, turned off acpi but same error
[08:50] <bullrage> christian_, libdvdcss2 too
[08:50] <orbin> lampshade: an alias?
[08:50] <AngryElf> does ALSA have a config file somewhere?
[08:50] <troy_s> alexander:  there are a good long list of ones to try with that non maskable interrupt error.  google should return at least 10.
[08:50] <tim> troy_s: thanks for your help
[08:50] <bobz`> on iptables how can i allow every incoming connectin?
[08:50] <CrazyDoode_> is there a preferred driver for broadcom wireless in ubuntu 6.06?
[08:50] <troy_s> tim:  that's what the community is here for.
[08:50] <bobz`> on iptables how can i allow every incoming connection?
[08:50] <troy_s> ubotu, tell bobz` about iptables
[08:51] <ic56> troy_s: I'm *pretty* sure that ssh doesn't provide this functionality.  I've read the ssh manpages in detail.
[08:51] <alexander> troy_s, sorry? got lost there? what do you mean?
[08:51] <troy_s> ic56:  what exactly do you want to do again?
[08:51] <acke_> Hey guys, is there a tool in ubuntu to build java applications into .bin packages?
[08:51] <ic56> Yes! synergy indeed seems to be the answer to using a keyboard on one computer and a monitor on another
[08:52] <Sir_Brizz> :D
[08:52] <troy_s> alexander:  there are more kernel parameters that might help that NMI error.  google for a listing and then post a bug at malone.  your help is appreciated.
[08:52] <keiaah> Hi all, I need some help. I installed Azureus with Automatix, and I cant run the update. Get a "permissin denied" message. Anyone else had this problem? Cheers
[08:52] <troy_s> acke_:  java is proprietary, so by default no.
[08:52] <lampshade> Anyone?  Someone must know
[08:52] <avalost> anyone know of an alternate place to grab flashplayer, seems ever since adobe bought macromedia the ftp is screwy
[08:52] <spikeb> actually
[08:52] <Xero> I should has the .iso file, correct?
[08:52] <spikeb> troy_s: that's not really why
[08:52] <mjbjr> the ubuntu dl'd dir shows server, desktop, and alternate... what's 'alternate'?  where's the liveCD?
[08:52] <lampshade> avalost: it is in some of the repos, like the world or something.
[08:52] <troy_s> acke_:  they intend on opening it up to open source land, but until then, you will need closed tools generally speaking.
[08:52] <noclue123> does anyone know of an application switcher other than one available with xgl/compiz, which shows screeenshots of applications
[08:52] <spikeb> troy_s: there is an OSS implementation of java partly installed by default
[08:52] <avalost> lampshade: i have installed it from the repos
[08:53] <avalost> yet it is not working
[08:53] <troy_s> spikeb:  it has a eula and is subject to sun's clauses...
[08:53] <avalost> so i'm attempting a manual install
[08:53] <Xero> I should hash the .iso file, correct?
[08:53] <troy_s> spikeb:  it is NOT open source - YET.  thanks to ubuntu and mark, sun is possibly changing its ways a little faster...
[08:53] <gavagai> Xero, yeah
[08:53] <Sir_Brizz> mjbjr, the live Cd and the installer Cd are now one and the same
[08:53] <schloob> noclue123: kompose if you're using KDE, i'm not sure if it'll work with gnome
[08:53] <spikeb> troy_s: classpath is not subject to sun's EULA
[08:53] <lampshade> avalost: what's wrong with it?  When you said FTP I got confused that you manually just went and got it from some strange FTP.  I downloaded it from the repos, it didn't have sound at first, but then I added alsa-oss or some package and it worked prefectly
[08:53] <acke_> troy_s, oooh..o.O
[08:53] <troy_s> spikeb:  blah.  read stallman's report on the java trap and you will see what i mean.
[08:53] <lampshade> other than that I can't help much as I've never manually done it
[08:54] <spikeb> troy_s: aye
[08:54] <Xero> Now that I have the MD5 Hash key, what do I do with it exactly
[08:54] <Sir_Brizz> Does anyone know a good ssh -X software for Windows?
[08:54] <troy_s> spikeb:  they _ARE_ speaking of going open source, last thing i read was 'matter of when, not if'
[08:54] <lampshade> troy_s: yeah but stallman can be paranoid.  Like how he starts GPL meetings with sayings like "Turn off your government detection devices" and crap
[08:54] <particleman> anyway...any suggestions from the gallery for Linux friendly usb/pcmia wireless adapters?
[08:54] <troy_s> xero:  compare it to the known one!
[08:54] <avalost> lampshade: I installed from repos, yet it does not work
[08:54] <Xero> oh kk
[08:54] <lampshade> Sir_Brizz: I don't know of any other than actually using cygwin, the unix emulator, to do it
[08:54] <spikeb> troy_s: yes, which will be interesting
[08:55] <Sir_Brizz> ok
[08:55] <avalost> just simply does not display flash on any site
[08:55] <mjbjr> Sir_Brizz: there's no 'installer' cd that I see.  Do you mean the first cd of 'desktop', 'server', or 'alternate'?
[08:55] <spikeb> troy_s: i wonder if that is going to end up helping or hurting projects like gjc and harmony
[08:55] <troy_s> lampshade:  stallman is a clever bugger -- dare i say a visonary -- well ahead of his time.  he is also bright and quite comical at times.
[08:55] <avalost> previous installs from repos worked fine
[08:55] <spikeb> troy_s: i suppose it depends on the license
[08:55] <troy_s> spikeb:  whatever works, if everyone uses java after they go open source, great.  its pretty mature etc.  but if it is eula bound and tied up, the community will still look to alternatives.
[08:56] <spikeb> troy_s: yup
[08:56] <troy_s> mjbjr:  desktop
[08:56] <Sir_Brizz> mjbjr, the Desktop CD is both a Live CD and an Installer CD
[08:56] <mjbjr> troy_s: thanks
[08:56] <mjbjr> thanks
[08:56] <Sir_Brizz> np
[08:56] <ormin> !help
[08:56] <avalost> !flash
[08:56] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:57] <troy_s> spikeb:  that is perhaps the best thing about Ubuntu -- it opens your eyes to the hidden hurdles of tech.  like mp3 garbage and ipods, the java issue, etc.
[08:58] <troy_s> spikeb:  flash :)
[08:58] <spikeb> troy_s: i'm old hat at that stuff, part of the reason i even got into linux was political
[08:58] <alexander> troy_s, thanks
[08:58] <Xero> Well, the md5 hash is correct
[08:58] <troy_s> spikeb:  yah but your average user is completely in the dark on it.  Ubuntu is raising the knowledge bar with their approach.  very very very important and damn cool.
[08:59] <spikeb> troy_s: yes it is
[08:59] <Xero> So I don't know why it is taking so long to run on the Live CD?
[08:59] <troy_s> xero:  ok so your download is good.  burn it, then you can validate via the installer procedure or md5summing the disk.
[08:59] <spikeb> troy_s: the bar is going to be raised further in the future, too
[08:59] <Xero> I burned it at 32x, perhaps a faster or slower speed?
[08:59] <troy_s> xero:  livecd is damn slow because everything is disk based.
[08:59] <spikeb> troy_s: there is a project to make a welcome center for ubuntu, and that info will be in it
[08:59] <particleman> back later
[08:59] <mjbjr> why can't the download page just say that the desktop cd is also the liveCD... that page needs some reorganizing
[08:59] <troy_s> spikeb:  awsome.
[08:59] <Xero> troy: the problem is, it usually freezes and I need to redo it again and again
[09:00] <troy_s> xero: hrm.. what are you attempting, basic install?  test the installation media from the boot splash.
[09:00] <ChrisCrepon> blackice is such a douche
[09:00] <troy_s> xero:  pop it in, test media, wait while disk spins and checks.
[09:00] <Xero> kk
[09:00] <ChrisCrepon> wrong channel, lmao
[09:00] <troy_s> xero:  only proceed from there.
[09:00] <Xero> The joy of switching from windows to linux eh? :P
[09:00] <ChrisCrepon> Mm
[09:00] <ChrisCrepon> You know I'd actually reccomend 'Linux For Dummies'
[09:00] <troy_s> xero:  once you know you have a valid media, and your install fails, then the bug listeners will work on resolving.
[09:01] <ChrisCrepon> although the copy i have focuses on RedHat :(
[09:01] <spikeb> ChrisCrepon: i used to
[09:01] <Xero> Well thanks troy, and everyone else who had to deal with me :)
[09:01] <troy_s> chriscrepon:  "How Linux Works" No Starch Press.
[09:01] <ChrisCrepon> It still taught me alot about the filesystem
[09:01] <Xero> hopefully this works.
[09:01] <troy_s> xero:  its the ubuntu way.
[09:01] <ChrisCrepon> Is anyone here a libertarian?
[09:01] <spikeb> not i
[09:01] <ChrisCrepon> hm
[09:01] <troy_s> chriscrepon:  I can't say enough here about "how linux works"
[09:01] <troy_s> i know a librarian if that counts.
[09:01] <troy_s> ;)
[09:02] <ChrisCrepon> lol
[09:02] <ChrisCrepon> I was just wondering because I am
[09:02] <ChrisCrepon> I'm a left wing libertarian, we're wackjobs
[09:02] <spikeb> oh
[09:03] <ChrisCrepon> Hmm.. time to shower with my natural shampoo :\
[09:03] <spikeb> i can handle that kind of libertarian
[09:03] <lwizardl> anyone use ubuntu as a webserver?
[09:03] <bobz`> how do i stop iptables from running ?
[09:03] <zuhause01xx> anybody here know anything about CAMFROG running in Ubuntu
[09:03] <zuhause01xx> wine
[09:03] <ChrisCrepon> I advocate civil liberties strongly, as well as free trade without 'big government' usually associated with liberalism
[09:03] <troy_s> what does camfrog do?
[09:03] <ivank> help, just took 512 out of my box now linux is failling to boot!!!
[09:03] <troy_s> zuhause:?
[09:04] <troy_s> ivank:  test your memory brother.
[09:04] <zuhause01xx> it a congress room chat thing, mostly used by people with hewaring handycap
[09:04] <ivank> troys_s how?
[09:04] <troy_s> ivank:  memtest86
[09:04] <ivank> its boots up to grub
[09:04] <ivank> ok
[09:05] <zuhause01xx> troy_s
[09:05] <ivank> which test?
[09:05] <zuhause01xx> ?
[09:05] <troy_s> ivank:  write the image to disk and boot from it.
[09:05] <troy_s> !memtest
[09:05] <ubotu> troy_s: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:05] <troy_s> !memtest86
[09:05] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, troy_s
[09:05] <zuhause01xx> check it out www.camfrog.com
[09:05] <troy_s> grr
[09:05] <mjbjr> bobz`: iptables is just a commandline front end to netfilter and you probably can't stop net filter, it's in the kernel, but you can flush the rules/allow anything)
[09:05] <ivank> i have memtest86
[09:05] <ivank> :)
[09:05] <ivank> troys_s before test 5 was failling practically immediately now it seems ok
[09:05] <bobz`> mjbjr
[09:06] <troy_s> zuhause:  eek!  looks like garbage.
[09:06] <keiaah> Anyone else had problem updating azureus?
[09:06] <SAM_theman> brb
[09:06] <troy_s> ivank:  try it again with the good stik out.
[09:06] <troy_s> ivank:  and let it run for a good while.
[09:06] <ormin> hi, I am having problem installing ndiswrapper in dapper. I installed ndiswrapper-source along with ndiswrapper-utils both with version number 1.8-0ubuntu2 . module-assistant created the deb package without problems. However when I try to install, dpkg exits with dependency error (ndiswrapper-utils (>= 1.8-1). What can I do?
[09:06] <ivank> ;(
[09:06] <bobz`> i have no firewall, at all and some how NO incoming connections are coming no one can connect to anything running on my ip
[09:06] <gavagai> bobz`, are you behind a router?
[09:06] <bobz`> yes
[09:06] <gavagai> that's why
[09:06] <ivank> troy_s how what the average time for the test`?
[09:06] <troy_s> bobz`:  if you botch up iptable rules, that is the default.
[09:06] <gavagai> probably...
[09:06] <bobz`> gavagai how do i fix it?
[09:06] <troy_s> ivank:  some suggest overnight.  minimum hour to stress it and warm it up.
[09:07] <gavagai> if your router has NAT you have to tell it to forward traffic to your computer
[09:07] <rudy_> hey guys
[09:07] <bobz`> what's NAT?
[09:07] <gavagai> your router probably has some web-interface for configuration
[09:07] <rudy_> I'm new to this so pardon the noob questions
[09:07] <troy_s> network address translation
[09:07] <bobz`> yea gavagai
[09:07] <bobz`> 192.168.1.254
[09:07] <gavagai> network address translation.  the traffic is stopping at your router.
[09:07] <troy_s> rudy:  you are in the right place.  question freely.
[09:07] <christian_> bullrage: its not working, i think im typing it in wrong:  christian@desk:~$ sudo apt-get gstreamer0.10-gl
[09:07] <christian_> E: Invalid operation gstreamer0.10-gl
[09:07] <troy_s> bobz`:  did you add an iptables rule?  if so, it is probably botched and blocking.  if you are behind a router, it is the router's fault.
[09:07] <rudy_> cool thanks
[09:07] <acke_> Hey guys, how can i check my screensize in the terminal?
[09:07] <LeaChim> bobz`, there is no problem at all with your ubuntu config. you can connect to ssh from other computers on your net, therefore, no problem
[09:07] <salah> hi. is there any plugins for firefox which is unstable?
[09:08] <w32> I cannot mount or create directories on /dev/sda I create a type 83 primary partition on each of the scsi disks I have in this machine and I can't seem to mkdir or mount on any of them, I get errors like sda is not a directory, or cannot create directory any idea what I'm doing wrong
[09:08] <bobz`> LeaChim
[09:08] <bobz`> Iknow..
[09:08] <LeaChim> your only problem is your switch is not forwarding connections
[09:08] <bullrage> christian_, it should be 'sudo apt-get install packagename'
[09:08] <acke_> Or how can i check my screen resolution?
[09:08] <troy_s> acke:  little vague:  you mean your x resolution?
[09:08] <bobz`> but i need help with router
[09:08] <acke_> troy_s yes
[09:08] <ivank> troy_s i had single channel setup with 3 dimms now dual channel, should that be the problem?
[09:08] <on2see> Hi
[09:08] <LeaChim> bobz`, will you please upload a screenshot somewhere of the port forwarding config page then! :P
[09:08] <christian_> bullrage: oh gotcha, im an idiot
[09:08] <troy_s> acke:  erm... the cli command eludes me.  gnome should tell you though.
[09:09] <mjbjr> bobz`: lan addresses are supposed to be in the 192.168.ccc.ddd range (or in 10.0.ccc.ddd, iirc) and these CAN NOT be seen from the inet, hence NAT and port forwarding
[09:09] <troy_s> ivank:  probably :)  check your mobo docs.  I bet it only likes certain numerical combinations.
[09:09] <puna> quick question, how would i make a launcher on my desktop to a folder in my file system?
[09:09] <gdb> acke_: run 'xwininfo' in a terminal and then click the desktop
[09:09] <bobz`> LeaChim ill give you link to my riouter
[09:09] <troy_s> puna:  right click
[09:09] <gdb> acke_: the terminal output will tell you what you want to know
[09:09] <AlienX> heh troy_s
[09:09] <troy_s> puna:  create launcher :)
[09:09] <bob_> Anyone here have Drake on a Gateway M275, with working battery monitors?
[09:09] <gavagai> how do you know you need help with your router?  we just told you what to do and you should poke around in its web config thingy.
[09:09] <gdb> acke_: once you're more familiar with your chosen desktop, you should be able to tell just by looking at the screen.
[09:09] <puna> oh yeah, i mean, what's the command htat i put into the launcher
[09:09] <christian_> bullrage: is there a way to do all of them by seperating them with a certian character? the "," didnt work, it isnt able to identify it, will a space work?
[09:10] <troy_s> puna:  make it a link to a directory from pulldown.
[09:10] <troy_s> puna:  it should be realtively easy from there.
[09:10] <bullrage> christian_, copy this into terminal..
[09:10] <on2see> Is is possible to run a windows login server using any discipline of Ubuntu?
[09:10] <troy_s> on2see:  what are you attempting to do exactly, beyond running a login server
[09:10] <christian_> i think i got it, just seperated them by spaces
[09:11] <troy_s> on2see:  winblows is flakey as hell.  use ssh for everything.
[09:11] <acke_> gdb my screen res is 1024x768, however my screen is 15,4 and support 1400x800. how can i change that?
[09:11] <lwizardl> anyone use ubuntu 6.06 lts as a lamp server?
[09:11] <bullrage> christian_, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[09:11] <troy_s> acke_:  your xorg.conf is the holy grail.  you will need your reses in there and your horiz and vert retrace rates.
[09:11] <on2see> Um...
[09:11] <w32> why can't I mount and make directories on my scsi disks I formated them in cfdisk as primary partitions  ?
[09:11] <puna> troy_s: thanks!
[09:11] <troy_s> w32:  wiki and forums have extensive howtos on mounting.
[09:11] <bob_> I had to disable ACPI to get the Dapper Drake install to boot, I got kernel panics without it, and now I get no battery monitoring, when I enabled ACPI in grub same issue, does this mean I have to re-compile/change my kernel?
[09:12] <ivank> troy_s i get thouthands of errors in test 7
[09:12] <troy_s> w32:  too much to discuss here... try reading those first, and come back.
[09:12] <ivank> 3072 by now
[09:12] <troy_s> ivank:  guess what :)
[09:12] <andax> i've just installed xorg-driver-fglrx, and switching between X and console now results in a screen corruption and a total lockup of the machine. Is there a workaround for this bug? (dapper, ati9600xt)
[09:12] <christian_> bullrage: i think i got them all but the libdvdcss2, which says that the package has no installation candidate
[09:12] <troy_s> bob:  yes.  acpi controls the battery controls.  there are other less restrictive kernel options.
[09:12] <ivank> say do i just through my ram away now?
[09:12] <on2see> Lemme think...
[09:12] <troy_s> andax:  thank ati for their lovely support of open source.
[09:12] <troy_s> andax:  check malone after that.
[09:12] <rendo> If I want to host a webpage off my box, where are the folders for all the stuff and what not?
[09:13] <troy_s> rendo:  bad idea.
[09:13] <andax> troy_s, malone?
[09:13] <mjbjr> andax: that was a problem with older ati drivers, I _heard_ that had been fixed... are you running the latest?
[09:13] <bullrage> rendo, /var/www ?
[09:13] <christian_> bullrage: cool, my music works again, but mplayer still doesnt boot, and I dont know why, but it will work as long as I run it through the terminal
[09:13] <rendo> What is it a bad idea troy_s?
[09:13] <troy_s> ubotu, tell andax about bug
[09:13] <rendo> Thanks Bullrage.
[09:13] <bob_> troy_s: any ideas how I enable those?  I have never done a re-compile, or change for that matter
[09:14] <on2see> Like a Novell server, being able to login to all Windows accounts on all other Windows boxes
[09:14] <andax> mjbjr, i installed dapper today, did a dist-upgrade, then apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, so I guess i'm running the latest yes. (latest from the repos)
[09:14] <on2see> is that possible
[09:14] <troy_s> rendo:  good security practice dictates that you only run one service per independent box if you can.  you open up the security floodgates hosting apache on your local workstation.
[09:14] <zenithsN00b> does anyone know much about festival here?
[09:14] <andax> troy_s, thanks i'll check that
[09:14] <troy_s> on2see:  well windows and open source mix like oil and vinegar.  have you tried implementing an open source layer on the windows boxes like ssh?
[09:14] <rendo> I see.
[09:15] <on2see> Don't know how to :(
[09:15] <troy_s> ubotu, tell on2see about ssh
[09:15] <on2see> A little help would be appreciated
[09:15] <gavagai> rendo, he is certainly correct but we can't always do what is ideal.  :)
[09:15] <Thardas> DynaStab: there were no problems with the install media.
[09:15] <rendo> It's just going to be a private wiki for a mud I host.
[09:15] <troy_s> on2see:  we can help with the open source end, windows is another beast.  i strongly encourage you to use ssh -- www.openssh.org for more info.
[09:15] <kieranDOA> Got everything fixed :D
[09:15] <rendo> Not some high traffic page.
[09:15] <gavagai> i have always hosted stuff on my linux box and if you aren't stupid it is not such a big deal
[09:15] <lwizardl> troy_s, i'm trying to setup virtual hosts on a 6.06 lts box. would you mind helping me with it?
[09:15] <troy_s> rendo:  still, take security precautions!
[09:15] <zenithsN00b> I was wondering if festival could be set up to rival the at&t natural voice technology that costs 200 bucks??
[09:15] <rendo> I'll put a condom on it. :P
[09:15] <Smirnov> How do you get Flash installed for Firefox
[09:15] <AlienX> heh
[09:15] <DynaStab> Thardas, try again then? ...
[09:15] <troy_s> rendo:  that said, i would encourage you to dig up that old 486 or something in your basement and use it
[09:16] <kevinz> hello, may i ask what is bot program for ubotu?
[09:16] <jamey> How do I get GRUB to redetect installed operating systems and put them in the menu.list file?
[09:16] <Mitja> Which firewall do you recommend for ubuntu?
[09:16] <rendo> Heh.
[09:16] <troy_s> rendo:  pref with openbsd instead of linux...
[09:16] <DynaStab> Thardas, do you have adequate cooling on your system?  if its night time, run memtest over night
[09:16] <lancer285> Hey guys, when I plug in my ipod, Dapper auto runs Rythmbox. Is there a way to change it so it runs GTKpod instead?
[09:16] <troy_s> mitja:  it comes with one -- iptables
[09:16] <acke_> gdb in my xorg.conf i have subsessions for different depths, the modes are all set for 1200x800, but the used resolution was 1024x800 so it wouldnthelp to change it in those?! so where should I change them?there is a defaultdepth set for 24 could there be a defaultmode be 1400x800? and would that change the res?
[09:16] <troy_s> mitja:  install firestarter to make it accessable via a gui
[09:16] <gavagai> rendo, the folder is /var/www/html
[09:16] <AlienX> lancer285, i think it's in the preferred applications option in your system > preferences menu
[09:17] <gavagai> i can't believe i just said "folder"
[09:17] <troy_s> acke_:  that is where you change it
[09:17] <rendo> Thanks gavagai. :D
[09:17] <on2see> troy_s: How would I set up SSH to work with Ubuntu/Windows both
[09:17] <lancer285> AlienX: Okay, I'll check that out, thanks
[09:17] <AlienX> gavagai, no folder in unix :)
[09:17] <gavagai> RemoteViewer, you're welcome
[09:17] <polpak> !tell Smirnov about flash
[09:17] <gavagai> AlienX, i was repeating his term
[09:17] <AlienX> heh
[09:17] <troy_s> acke_:  but x will flip ONLY if you have a viable horiz and vert retrace rate set.
[09:17] <gavagai> lol
[09:17] <Smirnov> Ok thanks
[09:17] <troy_s> on2see:  install a ssh server on whatever is your server or on all stations if you need to interrelate.
[09:17] <Thardas> DynaStab: I'll have to get back to it some other day. And yes, there cooling is adequate. This computer is rock solid with Windows XP. The problem with Ubuntu wasn't hardware-related as it just printed out the error with GTK libraries but didn't crash.
[09:18] <troy_s> on2see:  then you can build on the plethora of open source tools that utilize ssh.  it is EXTREMELY powerful and secure.  if you run xwindows to xwindows, you can even do some thin client computing _very_ easily with ssh -X
[09:18] <DynaStab> Thardas, so you are saying the install was successful?
[09:18] <acke_> troy_s how do i find out what is viable for my screen?
[09:18] <troy_s> acke_:  get model number and make, then google.
[09:18] <on2see> How do I get it working over my network, and transfer the Windoze accounts to it, and be able to login cooperatively?
[09:18] <gavagai> acke_, google you monitor number
[09:18] <Smirnov> Is there an equivalent of the rpm command in debian? how do I query an installed pkg without using synaptic?
[09:18] <ormin> hi, I am having problem installing ndiswrapper in dapper. I installed ndiswrapper-source along with ndiswrapper-utils both with version number 1.8-0ubuntu2 . module-assistant created the deb package without problems. However when I try to install, dpkg exits with dependency error (ndiswrapper-utils (>= 1.8-1). What can I do?
[09:18] <lancer285> AlienX: I'm not seeing anything in Prefered Apps about the Ipod.
[09:19] <Thardas> DynaStab: no, but I think it isn't about my computer's cooling in any way.
[09:19] <troy_s> on2see:  ssh is its own beast.  if you run nix like -- every user immediately can logon via ssh just as they would locally.  windows has more hurdles, but you can do the same.  sorry, that's as specific as i can be given the info.
[09:19] <bob_> troy_s (or anyone who can help):  sorry to bother you, you seem to have a lot on your plate, but is that ACPI thing a program?  if so do you know a program I can install?
[09:19] <acke_> gavagai i have a notebook, the screen is a 15,4 wxga wide lcd
[09:19] <DynaStab> Thardas, ok, you asked for ideas
[09:19] <Thardas> DynaStab: the install just stopped at 92% but the computer didn't crash.
[09:19] <ic56> Smirnov: dpkg.
[09:19] <on2see> ok thanks for your help!
[09:19] <DynaStab> Thardas, then you try again
[09:19] <troy_s> bob_:  start with using a kernel parameter that doesn't shut down the entire acpi subsystem.
[09:19] <gavagai> acke_, google the laptop model then
[09:19] <Smirnov> ic56: ok thx
[09:20] <troy_s> bob_:  or wait for further kernel upgrades to come down the pipe.
[09:20] <DynaStab> or test your memory
[09:20] <ic56> Smirnov: yw
[09:20] <bob_> I took out the acpi=off
[09:20] <bob_> and got a kernel panic
[09:20] <troy_s> bob_:  yep... there are other less restrictive params.
[09:20] <AlienX> lancer285, ah, i screwed up...check preferences in the "removable drives and media" app. The go to the multimedia tab
[09:20] <AlienX> s/the/then
[09:20] <troy_s> bob_:  depends on the exact vendor error that is causing it, but usually some param can negotiate it...
[09:20] <zbyte> uptime still rocking
[09:20] <bob_> I'll try a quick google for them, one sec
[09:21] <pyroride> hi again
[09:21] <pyroride> what are some of those installer scripts to install plugins and codecs and stuff
[09:21] <zbyte> f
[09:21] <troy_s> pyroride:  do them manually
[09:21] <troy_s> pyroride:  pointing and clicking wont help you learn.
[09:21] <troy_s> pyroride:  and it is dead easy to do.
[09:21] <pyroride> ah
[09:22] <troy_s> pyroride:  your knowledge level will thank you.
[09:22] <pyroride> half of the problem is I dont know what I need :)
[09:22] <troy_s> pyroride:  exactly!
[09:22] <lancer285> AlienX: awsome, that worked, thanks a ton.
[09:22] <troy_s> ubotu, tell pyroride about RestrictedFormats
[09:22] <AlienX> lancer285, np :)
[09:22] <kieranDOA> troy_s: I think it was you that helped me yesterday, if so, cheers i got everything fixed :-)
[09:22] <troy_s> kieran:  great!
[09:22] <waky> whois
[09:23] <troy_s> kieran:  glad you stuck with the open source movement.
[09:23] <zenithsN00b> I was wondering if festival could be set up to rival the at&t natural voice technology that costs 200 bucks??
[09:23] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Always :-)
[09:23] <troy_s> ubotu, tell pyroride about restricted
[09:23] <troy_s> zeniths:  i guarantee there is an open source alternative to that :)
[09:23] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Basically, i was missing modeline in xorg.conf and a few other things. DOH! :P
[09:23] <troy_s> kieran:  it happens.  now you are equipped with knowledge to help out others as well.
[09:24] <zenithsN00b> troy_s awesome
[09:24] <pyroride> troy_s, thanks!
[09:24] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Yeah im documenting all the specific problems and fixes i had with the install
[09:24] <troy_s> pyroride:  education is the answer... not point and click ms/apple darkness ;)
[09:24] <AlienX> zenithsN00b, check out freshmeat...there may be more informaiton on there about it :)
[09:24] <agorf> hello! is it possible to "wrap" an application so that it runs in a _new_ session without the need to logout?
[09:24] <zenithsN00b> AlienX k
[09:24] <troy_s> kieran:  you will soon be able to help out some other poor person.
[09:25] <|lostbyte|> Hi ! Guys :)
[09:25] <troy_s> agorf:  yep.
[09:25] <troy_s> agorf:  xnest
[09:25] <agorf> troy_s, ill check it out thanks :)
[09:25] <troy_s> agorf:  if you install it, it should appear under applications
[09:25] <troy_s> agorf:  then you get a window with the gdm and the whole works.
[09:25] <troy_s> agorf:  dead simple.
[09:26] <agorf> troy_s, cool :)
[09:26] <agorf> troy_s, thanks a lot :)
[09:26] <kieranDOA> I found it strange how ubuntu came without gcc/make but the, i guess its a desktop system, most people may not need it.
[09:27] <polpak> kieranDOA: most users don't need it. And it's easy enough to install if you do
[09:27] <gavagai> only so much space on one cd i guess
[09:27] <kieranDOA> polpak: yeah, thats what i thought, Just its the only distro ive used without it, so it was strange at first
[09:28] <gnuNewb007> Would someone be willing to help me, I can't get any OpenGL programs to run. I get the same error every time.
[09:28] <troy_s> kieran:  yep, saves space
[09:28] <troy_s> gnunewb:  you will need opengl accelleration via a card and a driver.
[09:28] <polpak> gnuNewb007: what video card do you have?
[09:28] <SurfnKid> Gooooaaaaaaal Argentina!!!
[09:28] <gnuNewb007> 6600GT
[09:28] <Stiffler> re
[09:29] <gnuNewb007> I am running Dapper Drake, AMD64
[09:29] <troy_s> ubotu, tell gnunewb007 about nvidia
[09:29] <ekp> hi
[09:29] <troy_s> that is an nvidia card yes?
[09:29] <gavagai> yeah that's nvidia
[09:29] <gnuNewb007> I have installed the drivers...
[09:29] <troy_s> gnunewb007:  when it boots, do you get a nvidia splash ?
[09:29] <ekp> where would I edit dpi on my system..........I do not see an entry in xorg.conf
[09:29] <gnuNewb007> no, see i was wondering about that
[09:29] <troy_s> gnunewb007:  if you don't, you aren't launching into the driver.
[09:29] <gnuNewb007> because on other installs
[09:30] <troy_s> gnunewb007:  well therein lies the gl problem.
[09:30] <gnuNewb007> alright thanks
[09:30] <gnuNewb007> I thought I had it covered
[09:30] <troy_s> gnunewb007:  you are probably 90% there.
[09:30] <gnuNewb007> i have installed nvidia drivers on debian, and suse and it was a pain
[09:30] <troy_s> gnunewb007:  check your driver line in xorg.conf.  if it isn't "nvidia" you aren't quite there.
[09:30] <gnuNewb007> i knew this was too good to eb true
[09:31] <gavagai> do these modern video cards, like the 6600gt, suck insane power all the time or just when the display is doing something?  i know they are power hogs but i wonder how much power they suck if the display is idle
where do I adjust dpi on my system..........I do not see an entry on xorg.conf
[09:31] <troy_s> gnunewb:  blame nvidia.  send them hatemail (polite)
[09:31] <troy_s> ekp:  uh you mean x resolution?
[09:31] <troy_s> gavagai:  they have their own fan ;)
[09:31] <gavagai> yeah that sucks
 no I can adust resolution
[09:31] <linuxmonkey>  hey guys I just installed the Ubuntu server and on my other pc I got the kubuntu desktop, anyways, I installed the NFS Server and can connect no problem, however my issue is that when transfering files I only get 300KB/s over a 100Mbit link between the 2 computers can anyone help me with this issue?
[09:31] <troy_s> gavagai:  pretty good indicator how much current is blowing through that mess.
[09:32] <ekp> I think default dpi is 96
[09:32] <troy_s> ekp:  then i am at a loss for what you mean by dots per inch.
[09:32] <gavagai> i was thinking about upgrading my gaming system and putting my 6600gt in my 24/7 linux box, but i think that might suck too much opwer
[09:32] <gavagai> s/opwer/power
[09:32] <troy_s> ekp usually 72.
[09:32] <nadjyla> splz rasterman
[09:32] <troy_s> ekp:  but it changes as your resolution increases obviously.
[09:32] <nadjyla> dont be stupid
[09:32] <Cyr4x> default system dpi for fonts is 96
[09:32] <troy_s> gavagai:  i have a 7000 something and it runs fine on my 300 watter.
[09:32] <nadjyla> i hate the shekf on new version of e17
[09:32] <Cyr4x> images dpi for web is 772
[09:32] <nadjyla> shelf
[09:32] <Cyr4x> 72*
[09:32] <gavagai> troy_s, i'm mostly worried about waste/cost.  my psu can handle it no problem.
[09:33] <richard> how do i copy a file to a protected folder?
 where to I change that?
[09:33] <gavagai> noise, too.  those things are noisy.
[09:33] <Cyr4x> in font settings
[09:33] <troy_s> linuxmonkey:  avoid nfs, use ssh.  further, what is the theoreticall thruput on a 100mbit link?
[09:33] <Cyr4x> System > Preferences > Fonts in gnome
[09:33] <ivank> 100mbit?
[09:33] <ormin> hi, I am having problem installing ndiswrapper in dapper. I installed ndiswrapper-source along with ndiswrapper-utils both with version number 1.8-0ubuntu2 . module-assistant created the deb package without problems. However when I try to install, dpkg exits with dependency error (ndiswrapper-utils (>= 1.8-1). What can I do?
 on desktop or in system
[09:33] <troy_s> ormin:  wiki or forums.
[09:34] <linuxmonkey> troy_s:  well considering 3mbit is about what im getting
[09:34] <SAM_theman> brb
[09:34] <idoru_> ormin: just apt-get ndiswrapper
[09:34] <Cyr4x> im't not sure
[09:34] <ziga_2342> hello
[09:34] <t-thing> Hi. Ive just bought dwl-510g wireless card and laptop with bcm 4318. Both of them don't with my dapper installations. Seems to be a common problem. It would also seem that the Dapper wireless support, well sucks. Some report that they work with 5.10. Should I install breezy if I want wireless support?
[09:34] <troy_s> linuxmonkey:  really?  3million bits?
[09:34] <idoru_> ormin: that should be enough
[09:34] <linuxmonkey> lol
[09:34] <gnuNewb007> alright lets see if this worked
[09:34] <Cyr4x> probably all fonts in system
[09:34] <ekp> would be font.config?
[09:34] <bullrage> ormin, don't use the ones in the repo, compile ndiswrapper from source.
[09:35] <ziga_2342> my system sound is working well and the sound, when i played the music, but any sound, when for instance playing a game, i can't hear nothing
[09:35] <linuxmonkey> troy_s: right now i can download faster on the web than i can transfer files via nfs
 maybe font config?
[09:35] <Lord_Pall> anyone raid drive savvy? I've got a weird install problem that's made my comp pretty nonfunctional
[09:35] <idoru_> troy_s: install ndiswrapper, with the windows drivers, gnome network manager
[09:35] <troy_s> linuxmonkey:  have you tried ssh?
[09:35] <linuxmonkey> ssh wont help me
[09:35] <ziga_2342> what would be the default esd.conf file?
[09:35] <bthornton> Anyone here been able to successfully use the web-based CUPS admin interface to administer printers?  I added cupsys to the lpadmin group as the README.gz file said, but still no success.
[09:35] <Cyr4x> maybe
[09:35] <Stiffler> I was finding a problem with ndiswrapper and planet wl-831X driver. When I load ndiswrapper module I get "segmentation fault"
[09:35] <troy_s> linuxmonkey:  have you tried it?  if so and the result is the same, then it is a bottleneck in your switch.
[09:35] <linuxmonkey> i need it to be mounted on this pc from the server
[09:35] <Stiffler> I saw it in two poeple
[09:35] <Cyr4x> i've got standard 96 dpi
[09:35] <Stiffler> 3 people ;] 
[09:35] <gavagai> troy_s, this is not a recommendation...  but i would consider doing that.  dapper wouldn't recognize some of my hardware so i did a server install of breezy, checked that it worked, then dist-upgraded.  it is very fast.  so it is an option...
[09:36] <linuxmonkey> what can I use as a ssh file transfer?
[09:36] <troy_s> linuxmonkey:  ssh :)  if you use a windows box, winscp.  if you use linux, scp
[09:36] <gavagai> for some reason breezy automagically worked with all my stuff while dapper wouldn't
[09:36] <idoru_> linuxmonkey: use cryptcat :P
[09:36] <ivank> troy_s 37000 errors :S
[09:36] <troy_s> linuxmonkey:  or any other good old open source ssh tool.
[09:36] <ivank> and more to come
[09:36] <troy_s> ivank:  gee... wonder what your problem is :)
[09:36] <NoobZaibot> Hello
[09:37] <NoobZaibot> is there anyway to get tcl via apt-get ?
 the problem is I am running 1600x1200 and I get scan lines when scrolling pages
[09:37] <troy_s> noobzaibot:  apt-cache search tcl
[09:37] <ivank> troys_s my X was crashing so i started wondering
[09:37] <ekp> if I drop down in resolution I get to big fonts
[09:37] <troy_s> ekp:  that woudl be retrace rate.
[09:37] <troy_s> ivank:  espcially bad with onboard shared memory vid cards.
[09:37] <ydnar> could somebody tell me how to get my terminal to look like this? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre2/39945-2.jpg
[09:37] <Cyr4x> what do you mean?
[09:37] <troy_s> ekp:  the scan lines should be retrace speed.
[09:37] <libdmb> any of yo familiar with openvz?
[09:37] <Cyr4x> what scanlines?
[09:37] <ziga_2342> can, anybody tell me about my sound related problem
[09:37] <ivank> say geil DRR400 2X256mb radeon 9800xt
[09:37] <ormin> bullrage, do I just do dh_make && dpkg-buildpackage ?
[09:38] <NoobZaibot> thanks a lot troy_s :)
 is there a way to fix that?
[09:38] <troy_s> ydnar:  aterm i think
[09:38] <ydnar> thanks, i'll look for it troy
[09:38] <troy_s> ydnar:  even gnome term supports some transparency
[09:38] <ivank> used to be hih end gaming hardware...
[09:38] <ydnar> but this one is borderless
[09:38] <troy_s> ivank:  that was a month ago ;)
[09:38] <troy_s> ydnar:  yeah aterm
[09:38] <gavagai> lol...
[09:38] <troy_s> ydnar:  or pretty much any *term these days.
 do not get it a 1280x1024
[09:38] <ivank> haha more like 3 years back
[09:39] <Cyr4x> borderless is yaquake
[09:39] <ydnar> thanks troy
[09:39] <ekp> but fonts to big
[09:39] <troy_s> ekp:  as you drop res, your retrace ups.
[09:39] <stevekl> Is it possible to take an .avi and put it on a dvd so it will play in a normal household DVD player?
[09:39] <troy_s> ekp:  change your font size then
[09:39] <troy_s> ekp:  or try for a better retrace.
[09:39] <Almindor> how can I burn a cue/bin ?
 like to try a better retrace but how do I do it
[09:39] <troy_s> ekp:  sometimes going over a retrace value will cause issues too... eg running 76 hz versus 75 on a 75 hz monitor.
[09:39] <|lostbyte|> Almindor, with cdrdao.
[09:40] <troy_s> ekp:  put monitor specifics into xorg.conf
[09:40] <stevekl> Almindor: If you're using k3b, there's a 'burn CD image' option somewhere
[09:40] <Cyr4x> almindor gnomebaker
[09:40] <troy_s> almindor:  try right clicking on it.
[09:40] <Cyr4x> or k3b
[09:40] <Almindor> heh ok, cdrdao it is
[09:40] <troy_s> almindor:  a cue file isn't anything to burn really, just an instruction set.
 I did but it will only let me run 85hz and I can run 100hz
[09:40] <bullrage> ormin, download (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/) and read the INSTALL file in the tar file. Then read http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[09:40] <Almindor> I know that
[09:40] <|lostbyte|> Cyr4x, k3b i think does'nt do bin..
[09:40] <troy_s> ekp:  and you are certain you have BOTH horiz and vert retrace included in your xorg.conf file manually?
 yes
 done this a lot in other distros
[09:41] <richard> Help! ..... how do i move files into a protected folder?
[09:41] <troy_s> ekp:  you can force retraces with the mode:  instead of "1280x1024" you can do "1280x1024_75" for example
[09:41] <gavagai> stevekl, i think you need to convert it first to a format a home dvd player can read
[09:41] <Almindor> thanks
[09:41] <troy_s> ekp:  if you try that, you should hit success.
[09:41] <eNons3nse> richard:  sudo mv "file name"
[09:41] <richard> thanks
 changing fonts down at lower res makes them look thin and weedy
[09:41] <stevekl> gavagai: Do you know what programs can do that?
[09:41] <troy_s> ekp:  try forcing the retrace
[09:42] <troy_s> ekp:  see if that works.
 then I need to force retrace at 1600x1200
[09:42] <ekp> what would be the code?
[09:42] <gavagai> stevekl, google mencoder, transcode
[09:42] <gavagai> stevekl, i am not familiar with using them, but those names come to mind
[09:42] <ekp> at 85hz now
[09:42] <eNons3nse> how can i install an older version of Grip?  the default one in dapper is an unstable version and doesn't work at all for me.
[09:43] <troy_s> ekp:  no, first offer up the 1600x1200 -- if it can't flip to the best retrace rate (verify via monitor diagnostics) then  force it with the _ addition.
[09:43] <troy_s> ekp: something like... "1600x1200_100", but only if you know for certain your monitor can do it.  otherwise expect nightmare land.
 no I am not sure of 1600x1200 only 1284x1024
[09:44] <troy_s> ekp:  be sure before you do it :)
[09:44] <troy_s> ekp:  max res with max retrace at that res... not just what your monitor can do :)
[09:44] <ekp> actually Ubuntu is the first to go as far as 1600x1200
 what would be better for  me is 1284x1024 @85 hz with 85 dpi for fonts
[09:45] <troy_s> ekp:  generally, higher retraces will result in better quality.  so try with max at that res.
[09:46] <Tmob> hey anyone here know how to get mplayer 32 installed on ubuntu amd64?
[09:46] <troy_s> ekp:  but if you have it in xorg.conf, x will usually flip to the highest available retrace.  that said, sometimes stepping down in increments of 1 can resolve strangeness.
[09:46] <troy_s> tmob:  there is a howto.  don't expect wmv to play.
[09:46] <Tmob> i get an error saying it can't open libsound32
[09:46] <troy_s> tmob:  there is a howto at the forums.
[09:46] <Tmob> troy_s, oh really!? even with the 32bit mplayer?
 I have no retrace problems with retrace at 1280x1024 only at the higher setting
[09:46] <troy_s> tmob:  wmv stinks.
[09:47] <ekp> but font dpi is a problem at lower res
[09:47] <troy_s> ekp:  just tinker with it.
 then have no idea where to change dpi?
[09:48] <troy_s> ekp:  specifically font dpi is about all you can do.  the dpi of your monitor is intrinsically bound to your screen res.
[09:48] <rendo> Does anyone have any experiences setting up mediawiki?
[09:48] <orbin> ekp: looked at sys > prefs > font > details ?
[09:48] <troy_s> ekp:  i know you can for fonts, but the rest is nightmare.
[09:48] <troy_s> rendo:  yes.
[09:48] <RAk> hello all
[09:48] <rendo> troy_s error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)  I keep getting that error when trying to setup the db_user_password :/
[09:49] <Tmob> troy_s, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188974
[09:49] <ekp> I am familiar with Kanotix and there is a gui for both
[09:49] <rendo> troy_s  I know it has something to do with mysql but I'm not sure and the ubuntu forums haven't showed me much.
[09:49] <troy_s> rendo:  you will need mysql installed and running.
[09:49] <ekp> and have edited xorg.conf manually before
[09:49] <Tmob> troy_s, i did that, but get this error when i run mplayer32:
[09:49] <Tmob> mplayer32: error while loading shared libraries: libaudio.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:49] <rendo> troy_s It's installed but how do I know it's running?
[09:49] <RAk> I got an ati 9250 agp card, I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx package
[09:49] <troy_s> rendo:  use the mysql command line client to connect to the db
[09:50] <RAk> then I did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
 thnks I will tinker
[09:50] <RAk> when I start X, it locks the puter
[09:50] <troy_s> rendo:  then you can add / remove users via the command line -- check mysql dot com for a great set of manuals.
[09:50] <RAk> any ideas what I might be missing there ?
[09:50] <troy_s> RAk:  good old ati!
[09:50] <graveson> can anyone help me with a good site on how to tune a dvb
[09:50] <RAk> troy_s: yes, it's an ok video card, but I might miss something in xorg.conf
[09:50] <samuli> easy questien: how does one scale image in gimp without maintaining aspect ratio?
[09:51] <troy_s> tmob:  if you want to save time, convert the files away from crappy wmv etc.
[09:51] <Tmob> troy_s, how?
[09:51] <Tmob> troy_s, can i do thaton amd64?
[09:51] <troy_s> RAk: ati is proprietary, could be anything ugly.
[09:51] <troy_s> tmob:  yes.
[09:51] <troy_s> samuli:  scale?
[09:51] <Tmob> troy_s, oh then i dont have any probs in doing that.. which app to use?
[09:51] <RAk> hmm, it's common with the ati cards
[09:52] <troy_s> samuli:  unlink the chain icon.
[09:52] <SAM_theman> ok guys xgl on ubunut isn't bad but for me i need my games
[09:52] <samuli> troy_s: Thanks.
[09:52] <troy_s> tmob:  eek.  religious debate to start if you suggest that question.  google for safety
[09:52] <Tmob> heh ok
[09:52] <kbrooks> whats the hype for xgl?
[09:52] <kbrooks> er
[09:52] <kbrooks> whats with the hype for xgl?
[09:52] <SAM_theman> lol
[09:52] <troy_s> kbrooks:  it lets you have wonderful flakey osx / vista eye candy garbage.
[09:52] <SAM_theman> i wanted yo see how it looks
[09:52] <SAM_theman> *to
[09:52] <troy_s> !xgl
[09:52] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:52] <kbrooks> troy_s: "hype"
[09:53] <troy_s> kbrooks:  hope that helps ;)
[09:53] <kbrooks> troy_s: i dont want XGL
[09:53] <RAk> anybody got a working xorg.conf for ati 9250 card ? so then I can compare
[09:53] <troy_s> kbrooks:  sorry then, unclear what you mean by hype.
[09:54] <kevin> RAk nope Express 200M here
[09:54] <troy_s> RAk:  if it is bombing out and failing to start x, it is probably driver related.  not xorg.
[09:54] <ECarroll> Anyone using 64bit dapper, and want to test out a bug I'm having firefox, the following page seems to crash on a new install http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/06/cusa/cats/rec.html
[09:54] <RAk> kevin: nice
[09:54] <ECarroll> firefox just fails to render it
[09:54] <troy_s> ecarroll:  its flash
[09:54] <CokeNCode> hey guys , can anyone help me out ... my tv card won't work with 6.06
[09:54] <troy_s> ecarroll:  which means no workie on any 64 bit platform running in native mode.
[09:54] <ECarroll> troy_s: I don't have flash.
[09:54] <CokeNCode> it was working fine until i upgraded from 5.10
[09:55] <CokeNCode> any suggestions ?
[09:55] <troy_s> ecarroll:  exactly.
[09:55] <RAk> troy_s: ati cards have many ugly options which if are enabled or forced, then stuff work nice
[09:55] <ECarroll> troy_s: it shoulden't crash though, dipshit.
[09:55] <CokeNCode> I really wanna watch the world cup, and i don't wanna reboot into windows
[09:55] <ECarroll> troy_s: It just woulden't render.
[09:55] <kbrooks> troy_s: (googling "define: hype")to give something more attention than it deserves or to try to make it seem more important than it really is
[09:55] <kbrooks> ECarroll: language
[09:55] <troy_s> ecarroll:  thanks for the compliment ecarroll.  i advise you to read the ubuntu code of conduct.
[09:56] <troy_s> kbrooks:  well it is the first real working composite layered extension to x that is being supported by a larger company i guess.
[09:56] <cyphase> does anyone know of any projects working on a desktop RSS framework?
[09:56] <ECarroll> troy_s: If you don't know what your talking about, don't talk, and if you do, don't insist you're right.
[09:56] <RAk> xorg 7.0 I've got...
[09:56] <troy_s> ecarroll:  spare me.  it works fine on epiphany.
[09:56] <troy_s> ecarroll:  and it worked fine on my firefox.
[09:56] <CokeNCode> ok guys, let's not argue ... let's be productive and focus on my problem
[09:56] <ECarroll> that page seems to trigger this error LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXext.so
[09:56] <ECarroll> which isn't flash.
[09:56] <CokeNCode> this other one seems to be solved
[09:56] <troy_s> LAF
[09:56] <troy_s> lord.
[09:57] <troy_s> next.
[09:57] <CokeNCode> let's put our energy towards something productive
[09:57] <CokeNCode> what else should i try to install to get my tvcard to work ?
[09:57] <troy_s> cokencode:  always coke.  always.
[09:57] <troy_s> coke:  chipset?
[09:57] <CokeNCode> chipset ?
[09:57] <CokeNCode> hmmm
[09:57] <gavagai> lets burn some incense and get groovy and like get along man
[09:57] <troy_s> coke:  what make of card.
[09:57] <troy_s> coke:  hauppage?
[09:58] <linuxmonkey> well guys it has something to do with NFS, cause when I transfered with ftp it was super fast
[09:58] <CokeNCode> troy_s, ammm, i can't remember .... but it's old
[09:58] <CokeNCode> well, about 3 years old
[09:58] <CokeNCode> troy_s, any idea what i should try ?
[09:58] <troy_s> coke:  lspci and figure out what card it is.
[09:58] <troy_s> linuxmonkey:  try ssh :)
[09:58] <RAk> I bet there are people inhere with working xorg.conf for ati :)
[09:59] <linuxmonkey> troy_s:  i dont know how to send files via ssh
[09:59] <orbin> RAk: somewhat.  what's the issue?
[09:59] <troy_s> linuxmonkey:  on gnome it is dead easy you can easily add a shortcut to your desktop, or use the cli with scp.
[09:59] <Flannel> ECarroll: that error is a java error.
[10:00] <troy_s> linuxmonkey:  further still, it is all encrypted and more secure than nfs.
[10:00] <RAk> orbin: when I start X, it locks, I might miss some options in xorg.conf
[10:00] <Flannel> ECarroll: or rather, java and flash.
[10:00] <troy_s> flannel:  gee.
[10:00] <linuxmonkey> troy_s:  on my client im running kde but the server is running ubuntu server
[10:00] <tiglionabbit> what packages do I need to listen to aiff music?
[10:00] <orbin> RAk: are you in gnome now?
[10:01] <gdb> I'm trying to install the sun-java5-doc package.  When I use apt-get install to install it, it tells me to download the documentation zip file from Sun (which I've done), put it in /tmp (which I've done), and chown it to root.root (which I've done).  I hit "ENTER to try again" and it hangs, never seeming to actually install anything.  Can someone clue me in and where it might be stuck?
[10:01] <RAk> I've read about similar issues before, but I don't know the exact stuff
[10:01] <ECarroll> Flannel: Yea i just got it, thanks
[10:01] <ECarroll> Flannel: That seems like a pretty serious java error, if it can cause a firefox to segfault
[10:01] <RAk> nope, console :)
[10:01] <troy_s> ecarroll:  there isn't a 64bit java
[10:01] <odat> hi everyone
[10:01] <orbin> RAk: well how'd you install fglrx?
[10:01] <odat> anyone here using totem-xine?
[10:01] <RAk> orbin: yes, also reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:01] <orbin> odat: yep
[10:01] <troy_s> odat:  yes.
[10:01] <gdb> oh nm
[10:01] <gdb> It unstuck.
[10:01] <orbin> RAk: i said how, not did you? :)
[10:01] <gdb> amazing
[10:01] <troy_s> linuxmonkey:  kde has ssh shortcuts as well.
[10:01] <CokeNCode> troy_s, it's a phillips tv card
[10:01] <ECarroll> troy_s: Yes there is.
[10:02] <ECarroll> troy_s: Wrong again!.
[10:02] <troy_s> ecarroll:  plugin.  don't take my word for it.
[10:02] <troy_s> ecarroll:  there is only a jre.
[10:02] <troy_s> ecarroll:  no plugin for firefox.
[10:02] <odat> orbin, or troy_s how do you tell if totem-xine is using xv as the default  i have dma enabled and am having probelms with jerky dvd playback
[10:02] <orbin> RAk: i.e. did you follow the wiki?
[10:02] <RAk> orbin: sorry, missunderstood :) well, I installed with apt-get the xorg-driver-fglrx package
[10:02] <CokeNCode> troy_s, saa7130
[10:02] <troy_s> coke:  eek1
[10:02] <troy_s> coke:  wtf is that?
[10:02] <RAk> orbin: I've read the wiki, regarding ATI cards
[10:02] <troy_s> laf.
[10:02] <linuxmonkey> troy_s: you happen to know how?
[10:03] <rendo> I hate this crap :@:@:@
[10:03] <CokeNCode> troy_s, :S ... that doesn't sound good, does this mean i'm beyond help
[10:03] <dou213> RAk, what wiki about ati cards?
[10:03] <CokeNCode> why did it work before
[10:03] <dou213> link?
[10:03] <odat> troy_s, ?
[10:03] <troy_s> coke:  no if it worked before, it will work again... just need to localize the issue.
[10:03] <odat> orbin, ?
[10:03] <RAk> dou213: I've read up several google hits for ATI cards
[10:03] <troy_s> odat:  if dma is on and you still have jerky, make sure your ide and cdrom have dma enabled.
[10:03] <dou213> okaz
[10:04] <RAk> also, there is a section for ATI on wiki.ubuntu.com aswell
[10:04] <ECarroll> troy_s: Auctually you might be right this time around -- I'm still erroring
[10:04] <cyphase> does anyone think that configuration files in linux are a mess (dot files and such)?
[10:04] <gavagai> cyphase, you do
[10:04] <orbin> odat: afaik, it uses the output you specify in "multimedia systems selector" ... i don't know where that's gone in dapper though
[10:04] <cyphase> yea, well..
[10:04] <cyphase> anyone else? :P
[10:04] <troy_s> ecarroll:  i won't say i told you so.  i already tested it.  it is definitely a flash java bombfeck.
[10:04] <gavagai> no
[10:04] <gavagai> :)
[10:05] <troy_s> ecarroll:  run it using the 32bit version of firefox with the proprietary plugins and it will load fine.
[10:05] <orbin> RAk: yes, that's the page i'm referring to..when you reconfigged the xorg package, did you select fglrx as the driver?
[10:05] <odat> troy_s, so everything in the hd parm should be enabled for dma
[10:05] <gavagai> it depends on the application, some may have bad config files.  everything i use (bash, proftpd, apache) is pretty nice and clear
[10:05] <ECarroll> troy_s: I don't have flash installed so how can the problem be flash related -- at the very best it is mozilla plugin system
[10:05] <troy_s> ubotu, tell ecarroll about flash64
[10:05] <simian__> what would be the command to restart sound   sudo killall oss(something)
[10:05] <ECarroll> I'm not using any propreitary plugins to my knowledge.
[10:05] <troy_s> ecarroll:  i can tell you that an untouched firefox64 just fails to render.  did you install blackdowns 64bit java?
[10:06] <crimsun_> simian__: there's no such one-stop command
[10:06] <kbrooks> can i ask for some emotional advice?
[10:06] <crimsun_> simian__: what's the underlying issue?
[10:06] <troy_s> ecarroll:  i also had success with the gplflash player... (albeit rather ugly)
[10:06] <crimsun_> kbrooks: -offtopic, really...
[10:06] <ECarroll> I don't have flash installed, perior.
[10:06] <ECarroll> period*
[10:06] <ECarroll> not gplflash
[10:06] <troy_s> ecarroll:  it is bound up with java too.
[10:07] <troy_s> ecarroll:  so if you have any form of java handler, that is where it is tripping.  blackdowns perhaps?
[10:07] <simian__> crimsun_: i can't hear sound in flash, but if i logout and login again it works, so I know that restart something (sound perhaps) works
[10:07] <troy_s> ecarroll:  blackdown's isn't nearly as mature as suns, hence issues.  again, if you launch the 32bit version of firefox (assuming you are on amd64) you will solve the problem.
[10:07] <crimsun_> simian__: are you using firefox?
[10:08] <simian__> crimsun_:  epiphany
[10:08] <crimsun_> simian__: have you installed 'alsa-oss' from universe?
[10:08] <simian__> crimsun_: not to my knowlege
[10:08] <troy_s> ecarroll:  do you recall installing blackdown's java at some point?
[10:08] <crimsun_> simian__: install it, then use ``aoss epiphany''
[10:08] <rendo> Why the hell won't mysql work !!!! :@:@:@::@:@:@
[10:09] <troy_s> rendo:  were you able to connect using the mysql cli client?
[10:09] <Bazzi> rendo whats wrong with it?
[10:09] <ECarroll> troy_s: no, but i have a java-common which is part of ubuntu-desktop
[10:09] <rendo> It keeps giving errors about denied for user 'root@localhost'
[10:09] <troy_s> ecarroll:  well there isn't 64 bit plugin support for browsers, so that is what is tripping it.
[10:10] <Bazzi> what pw did you enter?
[10:10] <troy_s> rendo:  you will need the admin root password for your mysql install.
[10:10] <troy_s> rendo: ;)
[10:10] <rendo> So I have to install it while in root?
[10:10] <troy_s> ecarroll:  that is blackdowns iirc, hence the bomb.
[10:10] <ECarroll> troy_s: apt-cache search blackdown | sed -e 's/ -.*//' | xargs apt-get --purge remove
[10:10] <ECarroll> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[10:10] <Bazzi> rendo: did you install it with apt-get/aptitude7synaptic?
[10:10] <rendo> Does it matter?
[10:10] <simian__> crimsun_: thanks the also-oss thing worked but what is it?
[10:10] <troy_s> ecarroll:  if that is gone, it won't bomb i suspect.
[10:11] <Bazzi> rendo: indeed
[10:11] <JediMaster> hey guys, I need to stress test a system, any suggestions?
[10:11] <rendo> Which one do I use then?
[10:11] <ECarroll> troy_s: And yet, it bombs.
[10:11] <JediMaster> cpu mainly, just need to load it fairly high
[10:11] <crimsun_> simian__: it's wrapper, like esddsp or artsdsp, that forces the application to use alsa (so to speak)
[10:11] <Bazzi> any of them, as opposed to downloading it off mysql.com
[10:11] <Bazzi> to clarify myself
[10:11] <rendo> I used those.
[10:11] <crimsun_> it's a wrapper, rather
[10:11] <troy_s> ecarroll: plugin links are remaining then.
[10:11] <rendo> I didn't download it from the site.
[10:11] <troy_s> ecarroll:  apt-get doesn't do full cleanups.
[10:11] <Bazzi> rendo: and it rejects root access with your sudo password?
[10:11] <ECarroll> troy_s: Again, I never had blackdown
[10:11] <rendo> Yes
[10:11] <JediMaster> been having thermal problems, so need to make sure the insane amount of fans in this machine cope with it =)
[10:11] <Flannel> rendo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP  scroll down to the MYSQL part, it talks about doing the whole password/setup thing.
[10:12] <troy_s> ecarroll:  the common is blackdown based iirc.
[10:12] <troy_s> ecarroll:  you said you had java common for 64 right?
[10:12] <simian__> crimsun_: would you recomend always running epiphany with aoss?
[10:12] <Almindor> my gdm font (only the one right on page) just went crazy :(
[10:12] <crimsun_> simian__: I do.
[10:12] <ECarroll> troy_s: Then it is a problem with ubuntu - as java-common is installed as part of ubuntu-desktop
[10:12] <rendo> I'll try that Flannel, thank you.
[10:12] <ECarroll> troy_s: Which would mean this page would crash on all 64bit ubuntu's
[10:12] <simian__> crimsun_: thanks for your help :)
[10:12] <Almindor> I get um.. "icons" instead of the font, anyone knows what might cause it?
[10:12] <Mazdak> hmm... Somebody knows where the "guide" to update to dapper is, that the update-notifier tells you about? I don't seem to find it :/
[10:12] <Flannel> !tell Mazdak about upgrade
[10:13] <rendo> Didn't work either flannel.
[10:13] <rendo> Says the SAME CRAP
[10:13] <troy_s> ecarroll:  well it isn't crashing my dual core.  and java shouldn't be installed by default thanks to eulas.
[10:13] <Mazdak> thx
[10:13] <orbin> JediMaster: one of those GL screensavers? or a game?
[10:14] <Bazzi> rendo: lookup the mysql manual then. theres a way to reset the mysql root password
[10:14] <neo_> i have folwed a instalation guid from http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide this page and after i make fglrxinfo it gives me a huge list of erros can any one help me
[10:14] <Flannel> rendo: you didt the bit about sudo mysql -u etc? after making a DB with the --user=mysql thing?
[10:14] <rendo> I followed what it said, says the same thing.
[10:14] <ECarroll> troy_s: The following packages will be REMOVED java-common* java-gcj-compat* libhsqldb-java* libservlet2.3-java* openoffice.org* openoffice.org-base* ubuntu-desktop*
[10:14] <Flannel> rendo: and then the MYSQL prompt command?
[10:14] <rendo> Indeed.
[10:14] <ECarroll> troy_s: depend on java-common
[10:15] <Flannel> rendo: so, this is a MySQL error (an error inside of a SQL shell)? or what?
[10:15] <troy_s> ecarroll:  none of that should impact firefox though.  do you have that plugin in the firefox dir?
[10:15] <Almindor> I don't get it :(
[10:15] <JediMaster> orbin: cat /dev/zero > /dev/null appears to be doing a good job so far, load at 1.01, which is enough, just need to get the cpu hot
[10:15] <rendo> I don't know, everything I try with mysql gives that same error about root@localhost
[10:15] <sh00t> how to connect to dial-up?
[10:15] <Almindor> rendo, 4.1 ?
[10:16] <Flannel> rendo: but, youre at the SQL prompt?
[10:16] <Almindor> rendo, one older mysql required you to have "hostname.domainname" or such
[10:16] <rendo> No.
[10:16] <graveson> can anyone help me with a good site on how to tune a dvb
[10:16] <ECarroll> troy_s: root@AMD64:/home/ecarroll# mv ~/.mozilla/pluginreg.dat ~/.mozilla/oldpluginreg.dat
[10:16] <orbin> JediMaster: ah.  yeah, probably better. you're testing the cpu not the gpu after all :)
[10:16] <rendo> I can't get into the sql prompt, it won't let me.
[10:16] <ECarroll> troy_s: Still crashes.
[10:16] <ECarroll> troy_s: And no, I didn't have that plugin
[10:16] <ECarroll> troy_s: Auctually that was the wrong ~
[10:17] <Flannel> rendo: the sudo mysql -u root gives you what error?
[10:17] <SonicChao> Does anyone have LiveCD and InstallCD to freely ship me? Please PM me for details.
[10:17] <JediMaster> orbin: yeah, but it would help heat up the machine too, got a fairly hefty geforce in there (can't remember which, but it has the extra molex connect for the extra power)
[10:17] <orbin> sh00t: i used gnome-ppp ... depends on the modem though on whether or not you can just straight up and connect.  you might need drivers
[10:17] <rendo> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: N
[10:17] <ECarroll> troy_s: still no go.
[10:18] <rendo> I've tried looking up the error, but nothing seems to help.
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> rendo: did you set a password for root on it?
[10:18] <troy_s> ecarroll:  in user lib firefox plugins?
[10:18] <b14ck> help pls. i can't play wmv with mplayer. how can i update it?
[10:18] <kamad05> Anybody has any experience with encrypting the entire harddrive with 6.06? ... I keep recieving a "Incompatible libdevmapper 1,02,05 and kernel driver. Can anybody help me? ... Googling hasnt anyhow
[10:18] <rendo> That doesn't work, I think.
[10:19] <kevin> rendo, I believe when I was playin with that, I had to use sudo -i then go into it, but it has been a year now
[10:19] <Flannel> rendo: try this: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?11,34014,46593#msg-46593
[10:19] <tiglionabbit> rendo: what I mean is, if you did, you have to supply it with the -p option
[10:19] <troy_s> ubotu, tell b14ck about RestrictedFormats
[10:19] <tiglionabbit> or indicate you're going to type one with that option
[10:19] <ECarroll> ecarroll@AMD64:~$ ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[10:19] <ECarroll> gxineplugin.so@  libunixprintplugin.so  nphelix.so@  nphelix.xpt@
[10:19] <ECarroll> I'm removing all of them
[10:19] <b14ck> !restricted
[10:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:19] <rendo> tiglionabbit And what do I type for that again?
[10:20] <troy_s> ecarroll:  strange weird... still crashin on that site?
[10:20] <b14ck> ty troy_s
[10:20] <tiglionabbit> rendo: mysql -p
[10:20] <tnks> Without stirring up controversy or flames, could someone help me understand some of the key reasons why Ubuntu developers needed to branch off of Debian instead of working in Debian's "unstable" repository.  I'm not sure I've heard these points from a real Ubuntu proponent.
[10:20] <tiglionabbit> or whatever the command to start it is, with a -p on the end
[10:20] <BenPA> !matthewv
[10:20] <ubotu> BenPA: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:20] <rendo> Gives the same error
[10:20] <FunnyHat> tnks, I would ask in #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel
[10:20] <JediMaster> yay, stable at 42.5C (at full load, bearing in mind it's 30C indoors today and there's 8 HDDs plus a geforce card in this machine) =)
[10:20] <troy_s> tnks:  it's open source.
[10:20] <ECarroll> troy_s: That was it.
[10:20] <sh00t> orbin so, first of all, Do i need to install gnome-ppp?
[10:20] <tnks> FunnyHat: okay.
[10:20] <troy_s> ecarroll:  thank god.
[10:21] <Ixzat> anyone in here good at locales?
[10:21] <wiggiwahwse> guys, how to i downgrade back to breezy bager...i stupidly upgraded to LTS and i really dont like it...way to unstable for me
[10:21] <troy_s> ecarroll:  if there were one.
[10:21] <ECarroll> troy_s: I'll be able to tell you shortly which one did it
[10:21] <nfernandes> hey, i have a problem with realplayer not working on some sites
[10:21] <cyphase> is there ever going to be an official gnome feed reader?
[10:21] <wiggiwahwse> any suggestions how i downgrade again
[10:21] <troy_s> ecarroll:  let me bet -- helix ?
[10:21] <orbin> sh00t: i would, yes.
[10:21] <squiddle> Ixzat  just ask
[10:21] <tnks> troy_s: I know it's open-source, but surely there was more motivation than "because we can".
[10:21] <orbin> sh00t: but what modem do you have?
[10:21] <ECarroll> troy_s: I would make the same bet =/
[10:21] <cyphase> or at least a feed reader installed in ubuntu by default
[10:21] <nfernandes> the realplayer site reccomends checking the complier versions for firefox and realplayer
[10:21] <troy_s> ecarroll:  thank good old real technology if you can call it that :)
[10:21] <sh00t> orbin I use Intel 537
[10:21] <FunnyHat> tnks, it's also because Debian has chosen to have some restrictive and...  interesting... licensing
[10:21] <squiddle> cyphase  there is liferea
[10:21] <AlienX> cyphase, liferea is your friend :)
[10:22] <rendo> Oh well, fuck it.  Not worth my time for it to just be a piece of shit.
[10:22] <nfernandes> and i find that realplayer has been compiled with gcc 3.2
[10:22] <rendo> I'll bbl
[10:22] <cyphase> i already use liferea
[10:22] <nfernandes> but firefox uses 4.0
[10:22] <animepunkw> anyone know a good program for converting mvk files to dvd ?
[10:22] <AlienX> !language
[10:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[10:22] <orbin> sh00t: is that internal?
[10:22] <cyphase> but it would be nice if it was installed by default
[10:22] <troy_s> rendo:  hang in there... mysql is a bit of learning bro.
[10:22] <orbin> sh00t: or onboard rather?
[10:22] <nfernandes> any suggestions? will i have to recomplie realplayer?
[10:22] <cyphase> and if it was more Gnomey :)
[10:22] <troy_s> rendo:  i had it up in an hour on openbsd... it was all about configging mysql.
[10:22] <wiggiwahwse> anyone here got  a second to maybe point me in the right direction to downgrade my version of ubuntu?
[10:22] <wiggiwahwse> pleaseeeeeeee
[10:22] <troy_s> nfernades:  what platform you on?
[10:22] <ECarroll> troy_s: Bing, helix plugin
[10:23] <nfernandes> dapper drake k7
[10:23] <troy_s> ecarroll:  very weird.  they are doing something uncool there.
[10:23] <Ixzat> when i installed ubuntu i choose swedish, however now all error messages and such is in swedish, but i want it in english... i tried dpkg-reconfigure localeconf using en_US.UTF8 for all options, rebooted the machine, but i still get messages in swedish
[10:23] <ECarroll> troy_s: Wow that still seems servere I'll file a bug report now
[10:23] <troy_s> ecarroll:  trying to do that 'we'll handle that for you' proprietary attitude.
[10:23] <mihai_> i have an acer travelmate 200... i've just installed xubuntu on it but the os' drawings are kind of slow... i belive that there is a driver problem (video)... can you guys help?
[10:23] <tnks> FunnyHat: Yeah.  Debian finally got to a point where it could distribute Sun's Java SDK and JRE.  Still, that's a lot of work to fork off a distro.  May there's a web page somewhere that summarizes some other reasons?
[10:23] <ECarroll> troy_s: a prioprietary attitutude on an open source technology, horrah.
[10:24] <troy_s> ecarroll:  how did you get those helix bits to compile on amd64?  i tried for hours.
[10:24] <wiggiwahwse> anyoe else having problems with ubuntu LTS?
[10:24] <ECarroll> troy_s: that was helix from repos too
[10:24] <ECarroll> troy_s: I think it was anyway
[10:24] <troy_s> ecarroll:  ahhhhhhhhh.  have you tried compiling that nightmare?
[10:24] <FunnyHat> tnks, I'm googling around right now, but I'm not sure what I'll come up with.  The poeple in #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu would know though
[10:24] <kevin> wiggiwahwse, nope
[10:24] <kevin> all is well here ;-)
[10:24] <ECarroll> troy_s: Probably, I've done it a few times before, it so isn't worth it
[10:24] <orbin> sh00t: try connecting using gnome-ppp...if it doesn't work, read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto ... next step would be search ubuntuforums.org for intel 537.  good luck
[10:24] <squiddle> wiggiwahwse  this is a weird question to ask in support channel
[10:24] <troy_s> ecarroll:  did you do it for realplayer support?
[10:24] <ECarroll> troy_s: if your going to waste time compiling a media player do it right with mplayer
[10:24] <troy_s> ecarroll:  amen.
[10:25] <wiggiwahwse> weird.... kevin. I found firefox to randomly close for no reason. Kernel 2.6.15...doesnt support my wireless...and it doesnt shut down properlly
[10:25] <ECarroll> troy_s: Yea, I finnaly got realplayer support w/ mplayer
[10:25] <troy_s> ecarroll:  because i managed to get my lovely bbc up with realplayer running 32bit firefox via that flas64 page.
[10:25] <troy_s> ecarroll:  whoa!  how!
[10:25] <ECarroll> troy_s: oddly it works better than with helix, or with realplayer binary
[10:25] <troy_s> ecarroll:  can you stream bbc?!?!?!
[10:25] <kevin> wiggiwahwse, 2.6.15 is awesome here
[10:25] <wiggiwahwse> squiddle, its more appropriate in the support channel than anywhere else
[10:25] <animepunkw> how to i convert a mkv file to dvd or what porgram do i need to do it ?
[10:25] <neo_> i'm having problems instaling my ati m9 the toturial sems not to work
[10:26] <troy_s> animepunkw:  any2dvd might be a good start.
[10:26] <wiggiwahwse> kevin,  maybe its just this stupid kernel module for acx thats doing my nut...but firefox and mozilla just randomly close
[10:26] <wiggiwahwse> really weird
[10:26] <neo_> fglrxinfo gives me a huge list of erros
[10:26] <troy_s> ecarroll:  you can stream bbc radio using mplayer?!?!?!
[10:26] <animepunkw> Thank you Troy_s
[10:26] <ECarroll> troy_s: hold on
[10:26] <ECarroll> troy_s: I have gmplayer in chroot too
[10:26] <ECarroll> troy_s: not sure if i got the 64bit to play real
[10:26] <troy_s> ahh... i did it without the stinky chroot
[10:26] <CokeNCode> tvtime won't let me change the video source
[10:26] <CokeNCode>  it's stuck on 'default'
[10:26] <CokeNCode> what's going on
[10:26] <CokeNCode> ?
[10:27] <CokeNCode> this is THE most frustrating thing ever
[10:27] <kevin> wiggiwahwse, never had a problem like that here, if I shutdown via command, it looks like it hangs bit then it don't
[10:27] <troy_s> ecarroll:  just linux32'd the firefox32 bin via that wiki... all works well.
[10:27] <ECarroll> troy_s: hrm, I'm using the essential codecs from mplayer web site
[10:27] <troy_s> ecarroll:  but not in native 64 right?
[10:27] <ECarroll> troy_s: But i don't seem to have video with my 64bit mplayer
[10:27] <wiggiwahwse> ok maybe ill see if i can get this acx driver to work
[10:27] <ECarroll> troy_s: No, with 64bit i get sound
[10:27] <wiggiwahwse> bbiab
[10:27] <ECarroll> troy_s: Just not picture
[10:28] <CokeNCode>  how do i do a completely fresh install
[10:28] <troy_s> ecarroll:  interesting.  i would love to find a way to get bbc such in native 64 without too much hoop jumping.
[10:28] <CokeNCode> and remove ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL settings ?
[10:28] <troy_s> ecarroll:  i suspect that is the 32bit decoding libs for vid (more real crap)
[10:28] <ECarroll> troy_s: doesn't bbc cast in thelia now too?
[10:28] <troy_s> ecarroll:  god i sent them enough mails about theora -- never heard of thelia.
[10:28] <ECarroll> yar theora
[10:28] <Ixzat> when i installed ubuntu i choose swedish, however now all error messages and such is in swedish, but i want it in english... i tried dpkg-reconfigure localeconf using en_US.UTF8 for all options, rebooted the machine, but i still get messages in swedish... how to fix?
[10:29] <steve> hi folks. any1 know about wireless cards not working in 6 now?
[10:29] <troy_s> steve:  there are plenty.
[10:29] <steve> no, I mean after the last kernel update
[10:29] <squiddle> Ixzat  you have to change it in gdm (the graphical login) cause it overrides the locale
[10:29] <troy_s> ecarroll:  last time i looked, they were choosing the closed source road, which is why i brought this to their attention being a global news company and all.
[10:29] <tiglionabbit> Ixzat: System -> Admin -> Language Support
[10:30] <troy_s> ecarroll: Please choose your preferred media player:  windows media player real player
[10:30] <troy_s> brutal.
[10:30] <meegaha> Hi all, need to recompile my kernel (new to Ubuntu) to get some things working, where does one get the source from? (and what's the difference between 'kernel-source' and 'kernel-headers'?)
[10:31] <JPAULEY> !linux-source
[10:31] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JPAULEY
[10:31] <JPAULEY> thought that worked
[10:31] <JPAULEY> do an apt-get install linux-source
[10:31] <Ixzat> thanks... but then comes my real problem... somehow my software database is borked, and apt keeps telling me to run apt-get install -f to fix it, but its a dead end
[10:32] <JPAULEY> no idea really :(
[10:32] <ekp> hi
[10:32] <ekp> having no luck installing desktop themes
[10:32] <meegaha> I can't seem to get the most recent (patched) source via linux-source
[10:32] <ekp> use art manager and install themes but they do not show up in Theme manager
[10:33] <squiddle> meegaha  you should get those for the actual default kernel
[10:33] <carusx>  /join #ubuntu-it
[10:33] <ekp> browse to file and open .rc file and am told wrong format
[10:33] <ECarroll> troy_s: with the growing rate of podcasting i'm not to worried about the bbc.
[10:34] <meegaha> squiddle: sorry run that by me again. To start fresh, I'm running 2.6.15.23 (the def. dapper kernel)
[10:34] <meegaha> and I want to recompile to get some things working
[10:34] <nickrud> meegaha, I'd think you could, but try linux-source-2.6.15
[10:34] <squiddle> !kernel
[10:34] <ECarroll> troy_s: if what they are saying is worth anything, 150million kids will regurgitate it as their own
[10:35] <meegaha> squiddle:  what is the 'linux-headers' used for then?
[10:35] <meegaha> (a bit confused)
[10:36] <squiddle> meegaha  if you have to build 3d party modules
[10:36] <squiddle> meegaha  headers are just the interface descriptions to the kernel
[10:36] <meegaha> ah, I understand now.
[10:36] <gdb> What is the dpkg command to determine which packages are partially installed?
[10:37] <gdb> dpkg-configure -a?
[10:37] <Ixzat> when i do apt-get install -f it wants to install python2.4-sip4-qt3 but i wont install, how can i remove it from the list to be installed?
[10:37] <nickrud> gdb, dpkg -l | grep ^c
[10:37] <Crescendo> how to find a file recursively within a directory
[10:37] <Crescendo> ?
[10:37] <gdb> nickrud: Thank you. :-)
[10:37] <meegaha> Now the linux-source-2.6.15, would this be the fully patched (2.6.15-23) source?
[10:37] <AK7> hey, can someone tell me the command to check my video card?
[10:37] <squiddle> Crescendo  find directory/to/search -iname "searchingfor"
[10:38] <gdb> nickrud: This has been the steepest learning curve coming from an rpm background, learning the dpkg based system.
[10:38] <meegaha> Do I need to modify/patch it in anyway? or is it just configure and compile after installing?
[10:38] <jacobmj> hi folks.  I'm having some difficulty with freezes while installing on a sony laptop. At random places during installation, the laptop hard freezes
[10:38] <nickrud> gdb, just new commands, you already know what you need if you are comfortable with rpms
[10:39] <squiddle> meegaha  just configure and compile, but there are a lot of quite easy and complicated ways to do this on ubuntu which will generate your own special debs for the kernel
[10:39] <jacobmj> I do not believe this is a heat issue.  Is there a non-graphical method of installation to test?
[10:39] <squiddle> meegaha  try searching in the wiki
[10:39] <dou213> AK7, lspci
[10:40] <squiddle> jacobmj  non-graphical meaning no X11 or meaning no gui at all (just command line)? for the first one you can use the server install method
[10:40] <jacobmj> squiddle: either would work.  I'll try the server method. Are there other differences in terms of installed packaged?
[10:40] <AK7> dou213: thx
[10:40] <pradeep> HELP ! i removed myself from the admin group...now im not able to sudo ... what should i do?
[10:41] <b14ck> wmv video tag can be removed only by paying?
[10:41] <squiddle> jacobmj  it is less, but you can get a desktop install by installing the meta-package ubuntu-desktop after you are finished
[10:41] <Amaranth> pradeep: reboot in recovery mode and use 'adduser <user> admin' to put yourself back in the group
[10:41] <nickrud> pradeep, reboot into recovery mode, then type adduser <username> admin , and reboot again
[10:41] <jacobmj> squiddle: thanks. I'll give this a try.  I'll likely return if still plagued by freezes
[10:41] <Alfred_> Hey guys! Does anyone know how I make Skype start automatically on Ubuntu 6.06 boot up?
[10:41] <Echelon-H> im trying to run XGL and when I am running it says something about libGLcore and I can't seem to fix it. can anyone help?
[10:41] <pradeep> phew ! thanks guys will do that
[10:41] <Amaranth> b14ck: it can only be viewed if you use w32codecs and gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[10:42] <Amaranth> !seveas
[10:42] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:42] <chapium> Alfred_: you can put it in your startup
[10:42] <livingdaylight> i've added volume control from Add/Remove Programs and also from Synaptics. But it doesn' tshow in Applications/Sound
[10:42] <squiddle> Alfred_  gnome-menue -> settings -> session properties
[10:42] <Amaranth> b14ck: go there to get w32codecs
[10:42] <Echelon-H> !xgl
[10:42] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:42] <meegaha> squiddle: After a bit of googling I've found the following>> make menuconfig (make changes here); make; make-kpkg kernel_image --initrd; and then install the resulting package (via dpkg -i linux-image-xxxxx.deb) does thst sound about right?
[10:42] <b14ck> Amaranth:  i have the codecs
[10:42] <meegaha> squiddle: my connection keeps dropping. if you said anything please repeat.
[10:43] <chapium> Alfred_: system->preferences->sessions->startup
[10:43] <Amaranth> b14ck: then install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll or totem-xine
[10:43] <b14ck> Amaranth:  but the video has some ad over
[10:43] <squiddle> meegaha  i think so, there are at least 3 different ways one more complicated than the other but it looks good
[10:43] <Amaranth> oh
[10:43] <b14ck> Amaranth:  ok
[10:43] <Amaranth> beyond the video playing i dunno
[10:43] <squiddle> meegaha  you can always use the regular kernel way
[10:43] <Amaranth> if it plays you've reached all you can do
[10:43] <meegaha> 
[10:43] <b14ck> Amaranth:  :( ok then tx
[10:43] <Amaranth> b14ck: the advertisement is coded into the video
[10:43] <b14ck> no
[10:43] <gentoo_helper> Hello there, as my nick indicates I have spent a good deal of my Linux career mucking about in Gentoo. However, my mother needed something a little easier to use so I decided to try ubuntu. Unfortunately, I'm having trouble setting up ndiswrapper. Can anyone help? Thanks.
[10:44] <Alfred_> squiddle, chapium thanks a lot! I'll see on to it :) Have a good night!
[10:44] <troy_s> gentoo:  try the wiki and forums first... good starting points.
[10:44] <CokeNCode> oh for fucks sake !
[10:44] <CokeNCode> this is impossible
[10:44] <b14ck> Amaranth:  lol man yeah it's coded i think. i have 2 wmv's and one is without the anoying stuph
[10:44] <CokeNCode> damn tv card
[10:44] <twysted> CokeNCode> calm down
[10:44] <CokeNCode>  graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:44] <Echelon-H> im trying to run XGL and when I am running it says something about libGLcore and I can't seem to fix it. can anyone help?
[10:44] <twysted> CokeNCode> tv cards are always a PITA
[10:45] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, I already did. I read the troubleshooting page and everything.
[10:45] <troy_s> gentoo:  what chipset of wifi?
[10:45] <CokeNCode> twysted, what really has me pissed, is that it worked perfectly under 5.10
[10:45] <Amaranth> b14ck: Sounds like a pornographic video. ;)
[10:45] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, ndiswrapper is up and running, the problem is getting iwconfig to work properly.
[10:45] <pppoe_dude> CokeNCode, please watch your language
[10:45] <CokeNCode> and then i upgraded to 6.06
[10:45] <CokeNCode> and poof
[10:45] <twysted> CokeNCode> weird, did you do a upgrade or a fresh install?
[10:45] <Amaranth> CokeNCode: What's the problem?
[10:45] <pppoe_dude> :)
[10:45] <Knifa> hay
[10:46] <collins> Dapper user since flight 5 - 100% uptodate with 6.06. Having problems with CTL_ALT_Fn console switch. Some consoles (tty1,5,6) work ok, others (2-4) are garbled - linefeeds ignored. xorg driver is sis. No other X problems.
[10:46] <CokeNCode> Amaranth, tvtime ... won't work
[10:46] <nickrud> CokeNCode, did you compile & install some stuff yourself? (screws with upgrades sometimes)
[10:46] <Knifa> has anyone had any problems compiling the module thingies for the nVidia drivers?
[10:46] <Amaranth> Oh
[10:46] <meegaha> squiddle: sorry connectiong dropped.
[10:46] <Knifa> well
[10:46] <Amaranth> I dunno anything about that
[10:46] <CokeNCode> nickrud, nah, i didn't
[10:46] <CokeNCode> i just did the upgrade
[10:46] <b14ck> Amaranth:  no actualy is from animemusicvideos but it might as well be porn :P
[10:46] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, The tutorial says to check your setup by issuing ifdown wlan0 followed by ifup wlan0. I have done that. When wlan0 comes back up iwconfig indicates that it has been disassociated from my AP and it no longer knows the WEP key. I have to set these manually on every boot and its driving me nuts.
[10:46] <Knifa> it compiles, but once it configs it spazs out and says the modules don't exist
[10:46] <ECarroll> troy_s: I just filed the bug report, if you want to play with it and add something https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/helix-player/+bug/49299
[10:46] <CokeNCode> tvtime won't let me change channels, it's just stuck on 'default'
[10:46] <CokeNCode> is there another program i can use ?
[10:46] <troy_s> gentoo:  what chipset?  and what happens via the gnome gui app?
[10:47] <troy_s> ecarroll:  i don't  think ubuntu will respond.  your best bet is probably the helix community.  they are rpobably the only ones who care.
[10:47] <meegaha> thanks all.
[10:47] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, Well. The gnome GUI app does not report any difficulties.
[10:47] <eXistenZ> How can I restart gnome?
[10:47] <ECarroll> troy_s: I'm not 100% sure it is an upstream bug
[10:47] <Knifa> has anyone had any problems getting the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site working? I've downloaded them and got the modules to compile and changed the x config, but when it starts it says the modules don't exist.
[10:47] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: get network manager
[10:47] <twysted> eXistenZ ctrl alt backspace
[10:47] <ECarroll> troy_s: I might have been able to fix it by simlinking those missing .sos
[10:48] <nickrud> eXistenZ, log out of gnome and hit ctl-alt-backspace
[10:48] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, It activates wlan0 just fine, but the next time I go to boot, iwconfig has lost all its settings.
[10:48] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: If you're using dapper install network-manager-gnome
[10:48] <eXistenZ> thanks
[10:48] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Look. Isn't there a way I can do this on the command line? I usually use gentoo and I'm not that fond of the GUI. :(
[10:48] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: Why would you expect iwconfig to remember your password?
[10:48] <squiddle> Knifa  you hace to load it with modprobe
[10:48] <Dreamglider> anyone know any good  list of gamews for linux ?
[10:48] <troy_s> gentoo:  yes.  the cli lets you put the key and such in a conf, IF that is what you are getting at.
[10:49] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Besides, I used network-manager-gnome and it worked just fine, it just won't reconfigure wlan0 on boot.
[10:49] <troy_s> dreamglider:  try apt-cache search game
[10:49] <squiddle> Dreamglider  holarse-linuxgaming.de (german)
[10:49] <eXistenZ> why /etc/modules.conf doesn't exist? where is it?
[10:49] <Amaranth> oh yeah, can't you use /etc/network/interfaces to set all that stuff?
[10:49] <ECarroll> gentoo_helper: Yes, man /etc/network/interfaces
[10:49] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, The chipset is a WUSB11 v4 by the way. It's a linksys (USB) adapter.
[10:49] <ECarroll> err man interfaces
[10:49] <Amaranth> eXistenZ: it's /etc/modules
[10:50] <troy_s> gentoo:  what chip does that v4 use though?  broadcom?
[10:50] <Knifa> squiddle: how do i do that?
[10:50] <SAM_theman> history -c
[10:50] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Because I though the job of the /etc/network/interfaces file was to pass that information to iwconfig.
[10:50] <Smirnov> How do I get MonoDevelop for Ubuntu ?
[10:50] <gentoo_helper> ECarroll, Hmm....
[10:50] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: it is, afaik
[10:50] <nickrud> eXistenZ, and /etc/modprobe.d
[10:51] <squiddle> Knifa  at the console type sudo rmmod nvidia and sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:51] <troy_s> gentoo:  there is def a conf for the key and such.
[10:51] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: but iwconfig doesn't write to /etc/network/interfaces
[10:51] <gentoo_helper> ECarroll, I looked through the file and I don't see the problem. I even rearranged the lines to make sure the ESSID and key were assigned before the IP address.
[10:51] <Knifa> okay
[10:51] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Well...then shouldn't it pass my wep key to iwconfig?
[10:51] <Knifa> i'll do it when ubuntu is finished reinstalling
[10:51] <Knifa> because
[10:51] <Knifa> it blew up.
[10:51] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: it should
[10:51] <ECarroll> gentoo_helper: man wireless rather sry
[10:51] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: you might have found a bug
[10:52] <pyroride> hi.. when i try this command in terminal "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly"
[10:52] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, A bug already? Damn. This is my first day... :(
[10:52] <Dreamglider> how can i get x-chat to open links in firefox ?
[10:52] <pyroride> i get an error:
[10:52] <pyroride> Package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:52] <pyroride> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:52] <pyroride> is only available from another source
[10:52] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Well. I don't plan on submitting a bug report until I'm *really* sure something is amiss.
[10:52] <troy_s> gentoo:  first, if you can, try to avoid that blasted ndiswrapper.  second, it is probably just a config issue.
[10:52] <gentoo_helper> ECarroll, Ok...man wireless you say?
[10:52] <ECarroll> gentoo_helper: yar, you will need a wireless-essid, and wireless-key entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:52] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: you're putting things like wireless-essid Home in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:52] <kieranDOA> Dreamglider: if ff is your default browser, right click the link > open in browser
[10:53] <nickrud> Dreamglider, I control left click
[10:53] <cyphase> how do you boot the livecd on macs?
[10:53] <kieranDOA> Hold down C
[10:53] <nickrud> pyroride, you need to enable the universe repo
[10:53] <CokeNCode> ok, is there a command i should be using to set up my tvtuner card
[10:53] <nickrud> !tell pyroride about repos
[10:53] <CokeNCode> or something like tha t?
[10:53] <cyphase> ah
[10:53] <Amaranth> cyphase: hold down C as soon as you turn the power on
[10:53] <Dreamglider> kieranDOA, it is my default but if i right klick and open nothing happens!
[10:54] <cyphase> i guess that is it..
[10:54] <cyphase> thanx :)
[10:54] <gentoo_helper> ECarroll, They are already in the file. :)
[10:54] <Amaranth> cyphase: as soon as you hear the "ding" noise
[10:54] <troy_s> hrm says the usb v4 is a prism based chipset... aren't there native drivers for that?!?!?!?!
[10:54] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Well yes.
[10:54] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, That's where the tool found under System --> Administration --> Networking put them. I am just checking those lines.
[10:55] <troy_s> prism54 methinks
[10:55] <luis_> how can I configure deskbar for when I press 'enter'  the search is done by default in google (firefox)?
[10:55] <ivank> troy_s is it normal for ram to give errors during memtest? or is it normal when there ar eno errors at all?
[10:55] <nickrud> Dreamglider, check system->prefs->preferred apps, make sure the browser there is firefox
[10:55] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: I'd just use network-manager and a startup script that make sure wlan0 comes up right
[10:55] <troy_s> gentoo:  what is the vendor id via lspci?
[10:55] <jrsims> hey, what's the best file sharing program for linux? is it emule?
[10:55] <troy_s> ivank:  normal?  no... good ram shouldn't give errors.  overclocked might etc.
[10:55] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, That's the other thing: How on earth do I get a script to run at startup? I've never needed to do that before.
[10:56] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: system startup or X login?
[10:56] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Well. I just need it to run after /etc/init.d/networking does.
[10:56] <troy_s> gentoo:  erm product hex value
[10:56] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, you can add scripts to /etc/init.d/ then put them in /etc/rc2.d
[10:56] <ECarroll> gentoo_helper: then tack it on at the end of /etc/init.d/networking
[10:56] <ECarroll> gentoo_helper: It is only a bash script
[10:56] <ECarroll> sh script rather
[10:56] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, I was going to write a simple script to do what I usually do (the whole iwconfig wlan0 essid ... thing)
[10:56] <nickrud> add it to /etc/rc.local
[10:57] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, more like ln -s them
[10:57] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: what nickrud said
[10:57] <jrsims> can I get a suggestion for a P2P app for linux?
[10:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Don't I have to follow some sort of predefined syntax for initscripts to do that or something?
[10:57] <arthur_> Hi there everybody. HAs anybody here tired to install a xmail server on dapper?
[10:57] <ECarroll> rc.local is better in the strict sense.
[10:57] <zzalias> #akl
[10:57] <gentoo_helper> nickrud, add the script to /etc/rc.local? Ok...
[10:57] <arthur_> I am getting a error 1 message from both synaptic and apt-get
[10:58] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, not really. as long as they have #!/bin/sh at the first line
[10:58] <ayabara> just about to replace xp on my pc, and I'm wondering if I should choose ubuntu or kubuntu. should I just try them and find out what i like, or do you have any good arguments why I should choose ubuntu?
[10:58] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well that sounds easy enough... :)
[10:58] <kieranDOA> ayabara: just try them
[10:58] <troy_s> ayabara:  the later.
[10:58] <gavagai> ayabara, makes no difference, you can install gnome on kubuntu and kde on ubuntu
[10:58] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, and if you add them to /etc/rc2.d, you can specify in which order it will run by tacking on a number before the name
[10:58] <troy_s> ayabara:  and what gavagai just said.
[10:58] <zzalias> ar cia yra lietuviu ?
[10:58] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok.
[10:59] <AlienX> anyone familiar with a grub error 21? I have windows installed on a master drive /dev/hda and ubuntu installed on a slave drive /dev/hdb and get the error on boot
[10:59] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, e.g. ln -s /path/to/scipt /etc/rc2.d/XXscriptname where XX is the priority number
[10:59] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, or you can do what nickrud said
[10:59] <ayabara> gavagai: won't that clutter my system and decrease performance?
[10:59] <matt0440> can i get help?
[10:59] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Can I tack a number before the name in /etc/rc.local? Or should I just use sysv-rc-conf to make sure it only runs in one runlevel. I don't want this script run at the end of every runlevel.
[10:59] <gavagai> ayabara, no
[10:59] <Amaranth> !ask
[10:59] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:00] <Amaranth> err
[11:00] <nickrud> gentoo_helper, rc.local is easiest, the run level thing is better control.
[11:00] <Amaranth> matt0440: Just ask,
[11:00] <ayabara> gavagai: straight and simple answer :-)
[11:00] <gavagai> heh
[11:00] <arthur_> OK let me try again. Anyone here familiar with xmail?
[11:00] <dxdemetriou> How can I disable the turn off on display after some time in Dapper?
[11:00] <gentoo_helper> nickrud, Well...A gentoo user never does it the easy way. So let me try to add it to /etc/rc2.d/ :)
[11:00] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, if you just link it to /etc/rc2.d/XXxxxx then it will only run in runlevel 2
[11:00] <nickrud> dxdemetriou, system-prefs-screen saver
[11:01] <protocol1> dxdemetriou, you mean hybernate?
[11:01] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, for simplicity i usually put the original scrit in /etc/init.d and ln -s it from there
[11:01] <dxdemetriou> nickrud, I did that, but It will be black after some time
[11:01] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Sounds like a plan.
[11:01] <dxdemetriou> protocol1, Not that. I can't work the hibernate yet
[11:02] <matt0440> I need to remove a file and it says access denied because i need to remove the file for flash player to work
[11:02] <pyroride> i have the multiverse options checked in synaptic but i still cant find certain packages
[11:02] <jonesssss> how do i change my mysql password and user pass wordfrom ssh?
[11:02] <Amaranth> pyroride: Such as?
[11:02] <gdb> matt0440: $ sudo rm filename
[11:02] <matt0440> is there a command?
[11:02] <matt0440> k
[11:02] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, nickrud, Amaranth, ECarroll, Thank you all for the help. :)
[11:02] <pyroride> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[11:02] <gdb> matt0440: Sounds like an ownership issue.  sudo will allow you to remove the file as teh root user.   I would suggest moving it rather than deleting it, however.
[11:02] <hangfire> matt- Go to preferences>power management
[11:03] <gdb> matt0440: Then delete it if you find it's absolutely not needed.
[11:03] <Amaranth> pyroride: that's in universe
[11:03] <pyroride> i have those enabled too
[11:03] <nickrud> dxdemetriou, you unselected activate screen saver when session is idle?
[11:03] <livingdaylight> What's the deal when i've downloaded stuff and it don't show up?
[11:03] <Amaranth> pyroride: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse is in multiverse though
[11:03] <matt0440> thx
[11:03] <AlienX> is there a way to fix grub using the install CDs? I'm getting error 21 on boot
[11:04] <pyroride> Amaranth: i can't install either
[11:04] <pyroride> :(
[11:04] <livingdaylight> hello?
[11:04] <CokeNCode> how do i load the tuner module  ?
[11:04] <Dreamglider> i need glib 2.0
[11:04] <Amaranth> pyroride: did you hit the reload (refresh) button in synaptic?
[11:04] <Amaranth> Dreamglider: it's installed by default
[11:04] <dxdemetriou> nickrud, yes. It is something like Windows when I worked it, that if you have disable the screen saver, there are someware options for turning off the monitor, disk..
[11:05] <livingdaylight> arrr
[11:05] <Amaranth> Dreamglider: if you're compiling something you probably need libglib2.0-dev though
[11:05] <pyroride> Amaranth: thanks :)
[11:05] <livingdaylight> Well, i've downloaded VolumeControl and it aint there
[11:05] <sjau> anyone got a bluetooth headset to run in dapper?
[11:06] <Amaranth> livingdaylight: doesn't show up in the menus?
[11:06] <eXistenZ> Has anyone here got apache2 installed?
[11:06] <Amaranth> livingdaylight: if you can figure out what the program is called (to run it in a terminal) you can use alacarte to add it to your menus
[11:06] <Amaranth> eXistenZ: me
[11:06] <nickrud> dxdemetriou, I have no clue about what windows does, I never let it live long enough that the screensaver issue comes up
[11:06] <livingdaylight> Amaranth: thats right
[11:06] <carpediem> I think I've had apache2 for at least a year
[11:07] <eXistenZ> Amaranth, Can you please check where 'htdocs' resides?
[11:07] <paul_> Well I dont need any fixes thank god cause I just got dapper configured the way I wish it to work. Basic compilers and all including Sun's jdk. What I wish to know is on a multimedia level. Im asking for opinions on who thinks which is the best player for mp3, cd, etc. I have installed banshee and of course the one whiich came with setup thythmbox. Both are killer players in my opinion. What does everyone e4lse think?
[11:07] <Amaranth> eXistenZ: eh?
[11:07] <livingdaylight> Amaranth: in a previous install both breezy and dapper it is just there. This time its not though, should i worry?
[11:07] <eXistenZ> amac, sudo grep -R 'htdocs' /etc/apache2/*
[11:07] <carpediem> eXistenZ: /var/www
[11:07] <Dreamglider> libglib2.0-dev wont install
[11:08] <LuKe-LuKe> #ubuntu-pl
[11:08] <Amaranth> eXistenZ: Oh, it's on my mac. I don't have that hooked up right now.
[11:08] <dxdemetriou> nickrud, ok. I will search to find something. The problem is while I watching movie and the pc is idle. Thanks
[11:08] <kbrooks> Eleaf: get in #blendistribute
[11:08] <livingdaylight> Amaranth: in ADD/Remove Programs under sound there is volume control. I also went to synaptics and installed two volume control clients and none show up in menus
[11:08] <eXistenZ> carpediem, I don't know what happened to my apache
[11:08] <Amaranth> livingdaylight: oh, i believe those are hidden by default
[11:09] <eXistenZ> carpediem, it says "File does not exist: /htdocs/"
[11:09] <nickrud> dxdemetriou, that should work. You can disable all off that by commenting out Option "DPMS" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , I think. As a big stick.
[11:09] <eXistenZ> carpediem, is it supposed to be in / ?
[11:09] <carpediem> eXistenZ: /var/www
[11:09] <morden> anyone got a nice howto how to get bluetooth headset working in dapper?
[11:09] <anima> can someone recommend a terminal-based email client?
[11:09] <zipper_> !xgl
[11:09] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:09] <livingdaylight> Amaranth: as i said i always had a volume controller in menus before after installing
[11:09] <beerockxs> anyone know what would cause lowercase umlauts to be narrower than the normal corresponding letter?
[11:09] <Amaranth> livingdaylight: start up alacarte (Applications->Accessories->Alacarte Menu Editor) and make sure they've got tick marks in the Sound section
[11:10] <dxdemetriou> nickrud, I like the command line. thanks :)
[11:11] <ydnar> !compiz
[11:11] <ubotu> Compiz is a compositing manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. See http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz -- Installation howto's:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.
[11:11] <nickrud> beerockxs, the font definition
[11:11] <nickrud> anima, mutt
[11:12] <livingdaylight> Amaranth: ok, now i feel stupid, Doh...i swear i didn't used to have to do that. It would just be in menus after installing - thx!
[11:12] <anima> perfect, thanks nickrud
[11:12] <beerockxs> nickrud: is monospace bugged or what?
[11:12] <nickrud> anima, it is a perfect little program :)
[11:12] <JeevesBond> Hello all, I have a stupid question if you don't mind (I did Google for the answer but couldn't find anything)
[11:13] <nickrud> beerockxs, I changed fonts almost immediately myself. Matter of taste mostly
[11:13] <AlienX> is there a way to fix grub using the install CDs? I'm getting error 21 on boot
[11:13] <JeevesBond> And here it is: How do I find my installed version of GTK?
[11:13] <nickrud> JeevesBond, dpkg -L libglib2.0-0
[11:14] <beerockxs> nickrud: it happens with several fonts
[11:14] <void^> JeevesBond: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0
[11:14] <kieranDOA> is there an easy way to log someone out, thats logged in via ssh
[11:14] <void^> ah.. too slow
[11:14] <nickrud> beerockxs, I don't use umauts much so I don't have much of an opinion of what they should look like :)
[11:14] <kieranDOA> Well an easier way than ps aux | grep ssh; kill <pid>
[11:15] <beerockxs> nickrud: well the o umlaut should be just as wide as the o itself, not narrower.
[11:15] <JeevesBond> Aha! I tried both methods ^void and they both worked. So thanks to both of you! ;-)
[11:15] <dxdemetriou> The DPMS in xorg.conf is only for monitor?
[11:15] <Dreamglider> oh dear
[11:15] <nickrud> dxdemetriou, yes
[11:15] <luis_> how can I configure deskbar for when I press 'enter'  the search is done by default in google (firefox)?
[11:16] <nickrud> beerockxs, you could install msttcorefonts, it's verdana arial & friends
[11:16] <beerockxs> nickrud: it happens with those as well
[11:16] <anima> I'm getting some errors on installing the mutt package: ////// E: postfix: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:17] <AlienX> are there advanced install options in ubuntu?
[11:17] <dxdemetriou> Because it mentioned that, the hibernate normally works or it needed some configuration?
[11:17] <anima> dependency problems with postfix?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> AlienX: oem install
[11:17] <AlienX> gnomefreak, where's that option?
[11:18] <JeevesBond> AlienX: I'm pretty sure you can get a command line if you go into recovery mode
[11:18] <gnomefreak> anima: i dont htink thats depends i think that postfix issues maybe try to reinstall postfix
[11:18] <gnomefreak> AlienX: on the alternative cd
[11:18] <matt0440> i downloaded real player for linux now how do in install??
[11:18] <anima> Trying that now, thanks gnomefreak
[11:18] <pyroride> when i installed ubuntu there are disk drives (icons) on the desktop of all partitions
[11:18] <pyroride> are they save to highlight and delete
[11:18] <AlienX> JeevesBond, i can't even get into recovery mode through grub...does't go that far
[11:18] <AlienX> gnomefreak, sweet, i'll find that
[11:18] <gnomefreak> im fairly sure they still have it on the text installer
[11:19] <matt0440>  i downloaded real player for linux now how do in install??
[11:19] <gnomefreak> AlienX: what are you trying to do?
[11:19] <daxxar> Hmm
[11:19] <JeevesBond> Ahhhh, ok. Yes you're right gnomefreak
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell matt0440 -about restricted
[11:19] <gnomefreak> JeevesBond: what am i right about?
[11:19] <AlienX> gnomefreak, i just installed ubuntu on a slave drive on this computer, i'm getting a grub error 21 on boot which means grub doesn't know where to look to boot.
[11:19] <nickrud> pyroride, ubuntu seems to show every partiton mounted on /media on the desktop. If you create mount points for those partitions somewhere else in the fileysystem, those icons will disappear.
[11:20] <gnomefreak> AlienX: reinstall with that cd grub sometimes does that
[11:20] <gnomefreak> AlienX: put grub on mbr
[11:20] <daxxar> Thunderbird gives me 'Mozilla Thunderbird is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Mozilla-Thunderbird process, or restart your system.'. There's no TB-process running, and I've rebooted, but it still gives me this message. ANyone know the cause?
[11:20] <JeevesBond> That you can get to advanced stuff using the alternate install cd
[11:20] <luis_> how can I configure deskbar for when I press 'enter'  the search is done by default in google (firefox)?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> JeevesBond: ah
[11:20] <gnomefreak> JeevesBond: if they still have that option
[11:20] <hmrocha> hello
[11:20] <pyroride> nickrud: thank you
[11:20] <AlienX> gnomefreak, so i can use the normal install cd to do it? I didn't even see an option to put grub on the mbr, etc.
[11:20] <matt0440> gnome freak: realplayer for linux
[11:20] <hmrocha> i have an epson stylus c44
[11:20] <anima> Yep, it looks like the installation of postfix is goofy, went through the configuration, and some errors popped up ...
[11:20] <JeevesBond> Am 99% certain I used it when messing around.
[11:20] <gnomefreak> AlienX: using the livecd (desktop cd)
[11:20] <gnomefreak> matt0440: read the pm ubotu sent you
[11:20] <AlienX> gnomefreak, that's the one i have. I'll give it another go
[11:21] <hmrocha> the output of the test page is very ugly
[11:21] <gnomefreak> AlienX: im not sure about that one i can only install livecd on this pc and its only a 10gig drive so no need for 2 os's
[11:21] <noob> I hate all that moving text
[11:21] <noob> Can i get rid of it
[11:21] <hmrocha> i used escputil to check the ink levels and they're fine
[11:21] <gnomefreak> noob: what scrolling text?
[11:21] <noob> when u start ubuntu
[11:21] <hmrocha> but i can't align the heads and print a nozzle pattern
[11:22] <hmrocha> i don't know why
[11:22] <hmrocha> any help?
[11:22] <AlienX> gnomefreak, makes sense. I'll see if i can find the advanced install options and go from there
[11:22] <CrashProne> Anyone know where I can figure out how to run a few servers(teamspeak, vnc) under separate (non-root) users when Ubuntu starts up?
[11:22] <noob> can i put a bootscreen on ubuntu?
[11:22] <Whoops> holy freak.........flash player download is taking for ever
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Whoops: it happens
[11:22] <pyroride> is anyone elses firefox icon a blue globe?
[11:22] <pppoe_dude> noob, there should be the orange one by default
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. I'm back. adding the iwconfig line to /etc/rc.local did the trick (I didn't have luck with linking from a script in /etc/init.d/ :()
[11:23] <Whoops> very slow
[11:23] <boha_> pyroride,  mine
[11:23] <squiddle> pyroride  yes, it is the default icon for webbrowser
[11:23] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ic
[11:23] <noob> i want a full-color bootscreen with no text below!
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pyroride, Yes. Mine is a blue globe
[11:23] <CrashProne> Ech! There's something weird about that to me, too, Whoops, and I don't know why.  I actually got a friend of mine to download it for me and send it over his HTTP server to me. ><
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, ic?
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Oh. I see. :)
[11:23] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i see :)
[11:23] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, well did you fix the problem either way?
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I do not use any abbreviations if I can avoid it.
[11:23] <Whoops> thanks Crash
[11:23] <pyroride> i wonder if it can be turned into the firefox icon
[11:23] <jatilq> hello all
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Listen. I think I may actually have a bug. :(
[11:24] <squiddle> pyroride  yes in the menueeditor
[11:24] <noob> note: i use LILO, and i dont see usplash
[11:24] <Michael> hello, i am trying to use Alacarte menu editor. When i make modifications to the menu in the application, it does nothing on the real menu
[11:24] <Michael> anyone know whats wrong? anyone else experienced this?
[11:24] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, what kind of bug?
[11:24] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, On roughly every other run "apt-get install whatever" forces the machine to reboot! Any ideas what might be causing this?
[11:24] <CrashProne> Anyone know where I can figure out how to run a few servers(teamspeak, vnc) under separate (non-root) users when Ubuntu starts up?
[11:24] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, sounds like a bug
[11:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Aww man.
[11:25] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, what kind of reboot?
[11:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, How well tested is Ubuntu 6.06?
[11:25] <noob> how come usplash dont work with lilo?
[11:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Not sure I know what you mean.
[11:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I guess it's a soft reboot
[11:25] <squiddle> CrashProne  you can write you own init scripts. starting the programs using su or trying the daemon-tools
[11:25] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, does it automatically reboot or ask you first?
[11:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I mean. I get back to grub after it crashes.
[11:25] <crimsun_> noob: it does.
[11:26] <pppoe_dude> oh. thats not good gentoo_helper
[11:26] <noob> crimsun_: i dont see it
[11:26] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, If it asked me, I would have refused the reboot, so of course it didn't ask. :(
[11:26] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Yeah. This much I know.
[11:26] <noob> crimsun_: i see black and white text
[11:26] <CrashProne> squiddle, I dunno how I'd start them under a non-root user though-- if I did them under su, then the VNC would be root-user and a security risk--
[11:26] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Actually. My first experience with ubuntu went very poorly too. :(
[11:26] <crimsun_> noob: did you update lilo to use the initramfs?
[11:26] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I tried kubuntu on amd64 (back around version 5.0.x or so)
[11:26] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, any error messages? paste /var/log/syslog in a pastebin
[11:26] <noob> crimsun_: how do u do that?
[11:27] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, If I see anything worth noting, I'll post it in.
[11:27] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, usually ubuntu is pretty stable
[11:27] <squiddle> CrashProne  su nobody -c myserver
[11:27] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Yeah. I know. That's why I wanted to give it another shot. To give it the benefit of the doubt. Ok. Let me go look at my logs...
[11:27] <CrashProne> squiddle Really?? thaaanks
[11:28] <squiddle> np
[11:28] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I was also getting random lockups for a while there, but commenting out the DRI line in xorg.conf did the trick.
[11:28] <albacker> what's the .pdf reader in UBUNTU ?
[11:28] <noob> crimsun_ how do u update lilo to use the initramfs?
[11:28] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, That's odd. I see some listings from cron that don't look at all right...Here they are
[11:28] <squiddle> albacker  evince
[11:29] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Jun 10 17:21:52 localhost /usr/sbin/cron[4419] : (CRON) INFO (pidfile fd = 3)
[11:29] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, might just be your copmuter's configuration. some hardware is not perfectly supported in ubuntu out of the box
[11:29] <gentoo_helper> Jun 10 17:21:52 localhost /usr/sbin/cron[4420] : (CRON) STARTUP (fork ok)
[11:29] <gentoo_helper> Jun 10 17:21:52 localhost /usr/sbin/cron[4420] : (CRON) INFO (Running @reboot jobs)
[11:29] <squiddle> albacker  or *shudder* acroread
[11:29] <albacker> yeah evince *
[11:29] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well...This is some old hardware from emachines. Pretty standard as far as I can tell.
[11:29] <albacker> squiddle, thnx
[11:29] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Why on earth would cron have a reboot job?
[11:29] <Leonox> hi
[11:29] <yggdrasil> hello, can somone help me out with my problem. I started using kde and i changed the color theme and it carried over to my gnome, so i changed those colors back and now gnome wont start up. just got flux installed but i would like gnome back... looking for something to erase
[11:29] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, lol. no idea, but maybe something is triggering it
[11:29] <squiddle> gentoo_helper  to make it more like windows
[11:30] <gentoo_helper> squiddle, Very funny. :)
[11:30] <noob> crimsun_ how do u update lilo to use the initramfs?
[11:30] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Nothing should "trigger" a cron job except the time at which it is set to execute. :(
[11:30] <ube> hey guys
[11:31] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, And besides, what does apt-get have to do with cron? Hmm... :-/
[11:31] <noob> crimsun_ how do u update lilo to use the initramfs?
[11:31] <ech0> does anyone know how I can install fuse on my system? apt-cache search fuse-module returns no results
[11:31] <crimsun_> noob: cat /proc/cmdline
[11:32] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: hi :P
[11:32] <AngryElf> hey guys -- amarok won't play my mp3s, i've installed gstreamer-ugly -- since amarok uses xine, i tried to "xine file.mp3" and it tells me that there's no plugin available.....any ideas?
[11:32] <crimsun_> AngryElf: you need libxine-extracodecs
[11:32] <MarsRouter> hi
[11:32] <apokryphos> AngryElf: FAQ
[11:32] <MarsRouter> knorrie: hi
[11:32] <chavo> AngryElf, you need libxine-extracodecs
[11:32] <ninjaplimsoles> yo folks
[11:32] <ech0> modprobe fuse returns: FATAL: Module fuse not found.
[11:32] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well...I don't see anything in the logs.
[11:32] <ninjaplimsoles> whats the name of a Terminal emulator that can use PROPER transparency?
[11:33] <ninjaplimsoles> i thought rxvt-unicode was it, but it looks like its built in the 80's
[11:33] <MarsRouter> knorrie ::Actually Im currebtly on FC4
[11:33] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, sounds very weird
[11:33] <crimsun_> ninjaplimsoles: it can, you just need a newer version than what's in Ubuntu Dapper.
[11:33] <apokryphos> ninjaplimsoles: I don't think there is one yet; though any program with xgl+compiz can use real transparency
[11:33] <MarsRouter> i used Ubuntu as it i sdebian based , i fell it faster tahn FC
[11:33] <ninjaplimsoles> ive installed the latest from the universe repos
[11:33] <noob> CRIMSUN_ HOW DO U UPDATE LILO TO USE THE INITRAMFS?
[11:33] <apokryphos> noob: no caps please
[11:33] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: i use ubuntu on my desktop pc, yes, it is based on debian, so you will find 'all' packages from debian in ubuntu
[11:33] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I know...It's hard being away from my gentoo machine. :) Besides, if this machine is for my mother all the kinks have to be worked out.
[11:33] <crimsun_> noob: I asked you a question. Have you answered it?
[11:34] <spikeb> ninjaplimsoles: you want a transparent console?
[11:34] <ech0> anyone?
[11:34] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, does apt-get update crash too?
[11:34] <AngryElf> crimsun_, chavo thanx
[11:34] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: i don't know whether it's faster
[11:34] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Yes. IT does. I just tried it and it forced a reboot.
[11:34] <ninjaplimsoles> im running XGL/Compiz and want a proper transparent terminal, not some pseudo-terminal background that uses your wallpaper in some ropey way
[11:34] <chavo> ninjaplimsoles, rxvt-unicode is the one
[11:34] <spikeb> oh
[11:34] <MarsRouter> knorrie ::know i want to confirm taht like i use tools in FC ie NMAP, HTTPD & their GUI is it found in Ubuntu ?
[11:34] <ChrisCrepon> lol http://www.infowars.com/cartoons_8.htm
[11:34] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: i like the debian way of managing my systems
[11:34] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i've never had this kind of thing before. i would expect something to be in the logs
[11:34] <nostalg1c> is there a package for monodevelop in ubuntu?
[11:35] <crimsun_> ninjaplimsoles: why don't you just use transset then?
[11:35] <jatilq> hard to find updated media packages like mozilla-mplayer or other multimedia resources
[11:35] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, does synaptic crash?
[11:35] <ninjaplimsoles> i only want the bg to be transparent, not the entire window ;)
[11:35] <pyroride> does anyone know if it's possible to take a screenshot (of the desktop) and have a movie with totem be included with the screenshot?
[11:35] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Does apt-get have a log? The dpkg log shows nothing unusual.
[11:35] <MarsRouter> i tried FreeBSd too but MY VGA cant run X on that
[11:35] <jatilq> to add to my source list
[11:35] <pyroride> the screen stays black on a screenshot
[11:35] <ech0> nostalg1c: apt-get install monodevelop
[11:35] <siriusnova> hrm
[11:35] <siriusnova> hey guys
[11:35] <MarsRouter> knorrie ::i tried FreeBSd too but MY VGA cant run X on that
[11:35] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Actually synaptic has caused the reboot as well (and it froze up a few times, but i think I took care of that).
[11:35] <siriusnova> is there any way to merge 2 ext3 partitions?
[11:35] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i think the dpkg log is also for apt-get, apart from the apt-get install log
[11:35] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ nearly almost any software that exists for linux is packaged
[11:35] <ninjaplimsoles> hi sirius
[11:35] <crimsun_> ninjaplimsoles: "the background?"
[11:35] <siriusnova> like merge an empty ext3 partition into my current one
[11:36] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: i rarely have to package software myself
[11:36] <MarsRouter> Knorrie:: thanks
[11:36] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well. dpkg is pretty uneventful. :(
[11:36] <siriusnova> like how you can merge NTFS partitions
[11:36] <ech0> nostalg1c: when you want to search for a package, do apt-get update, apt-cache search x
[11:36] <ninjaplimsoles> nevermind crimsun_
[11:36] <crimsun_> ninjaplimsoles: i.e., you want the window border and title bar non-transparent but the rest of the window transparent?
[11:36] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, did you check your X log? seems to have had problems with X before... maybe something going on there
[11:36] <jatilq> i did that kind of search
[11:36] <nostalg1c> it says it can't find a package named monodevelop
[11:36] <jatilq> but hard to get a player that will work with firefox
[11:36] <nostalg1c> i searched for it using that gui package manager but no luck
[11:36] <chavo> ninjaplimsoles, I use rxvt-unicode and it works fine for me
[11:37] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Let me check.
[11:37] <ninjaplimsoles> chavo, how do i change atributes such as typeface colour etc?
[11:37] <jatilq> I use vlc but need a player that wont skip in xgl
[11:37] <chavo> ninjaplimsoles, all on the commandline
[11:38] <nickrud> nostalg1c, you need some better /etc/apt/sources, there are good ones at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 for dapper
[11:38] <adamant1988> anyone know where I can find java 1.5 it's not in the repos...
[11:38] <jatilq> anyone have any good
[11:38] <ninjaplimsoles> aah thats right! any urls for stuff to feed the command line?
[11:38] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well. It is complaining about my mouse being treated as a wacom tablet, but beyond that it looks O.K. There are also a few warning about the S3 ProSavage card having difficulties with BIOS settings, but I don't see how that would effect things that take place on the commandline)
[11:38] <eXistenZ> hey
[11:38] <ninjaplimsoles> cant find an FAQ :(
[11:38] <eXistenZ> I installed php5, but it won't get loaded into apache
[11:38] <nostalg1c> ech0?
[11:38] <jatilq> sources for win32codecs all and or good media player?
[11:39] <chavo> ninjaplimsoles, there's was something on the ubuntuforums but I can't remember
[11:39] <krazykit> adamant1988: enable multiverse
[11:39] <ninjaplimsoles> thanks chavo
[11:39] <adamant1988> krazy, it's enabled already
[11:39] <MarsRouter> Knorrie : rpm is much easy way to even install sources is ubuntu that much easy? th ebiggest issue i face in Linux was JAVA run time & Netbeans JAVA compiler installation
[11:39] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, It does state at the end of the wacom tablet errors that it configured the mouse properly though...
[11:39] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, weird. maybe try shutting down X then doing an apt-get from the virtual terminal
[11:39] <kermitX_> jatilq, see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:39] <Kyral> MarsRouter: There is a reason. Sun is retarded with their Java license
[11:39] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/java-package
[11:39] <thenerdsangle> does the airport extreme chip not support master mode?
[11:39] <nickrud> nostalg1c, apt-cache policy monodevelop tells me that .10 is available from the univere repo. It's not enabled by default.
[11:40] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Let me give that a shot and then I'll get back to you.
[11:40] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, just so that maybe you can see a trigger point or somethn
[11:40] <nostalg1c> nickrud: excuse my ignorance, but how do i enable that?
[11:40] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: just one command to create a .deb package with the sun-j2sdk
[11:40] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, killall X && killall gdm
[11:40] <adamant1988> krazykit: it has java 1.4 in it, but I need 1.5 to play this web game I want.
[11:40] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I should point out though that once it has failed the first time, the second apt-get does NOT trigger a reboot.
[11:40] <Kyral> Besides, Java blows lol
[11:40] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i c
[11:40] <Kyral> Gimme Python or Perl anyday :D
[11:40] <MarsRouter> Knorre:: hmmm seems easy
[11:40] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, No need to space them out...I understand "ic" now. :)
[11:40] <AlienX> Kyral, yeah, but without java you're in a world of hurt when it comes to online apps
[11:40] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ;)
[11:41] <krazykit> adamant1988: using dapper?
[11:41] <Kyral> AlienX: PHP
[11:41] <adamant1988> krazykit: yes, I'm in dapper
[11:41] <Kyral> AlienX: and Python and Perl :P
[11:41] <krazykit> adamant1988: then you should have 1.5 in multiverse.
[11:41] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Let me try that, and then I'll get back to you. Perhaps I'll try a second apt-get after "upgrade" so I can get irssi and troubleshoot from the VT.
[11:41] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Here goes.
[11:41] <adamant1988> but I don't... is something wrong here?
[11:41] <nostalg1c> nickrud?
[11:41] <adamant1988> I used easyubuntu to enable the multiverse..
[11:41] <krazykit> the package is sun-java5-jre
[11:41] <tomnix> Hello all im new to ubuntu / this irc channel (Y)
[11:42] <morden> anyone can help me with bluetooth? I got my phone paired and when I press the volume buttons on the headset I get in the terminal a feedback on that... however in Skype I hear nothing
[11:42] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: sure, it's easy, just read the docs for a few minutes (man make-jpkg and /usr/share/doc/<package>)
[11:42] <pppoe_dude> hey tomi
[11:42] <pppoe_dude> *tomnix
[11:42] <Knorrie> tomnix: welcome
[11:42] <nickrud> nostalg1c, if you don't know what repos and components are, I's suggest looking over !components and !repos below
[11:42] <nickrud> !components
[11:42] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[11:42] <nickrud> !repos
[11:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:42] <adamant1988> krazykit: I have that.. and it's installed..
[11:43] <nullified> Hi guys, How do i make linux use a certain version of Java, At the moment its saying its using java version "1.4.2"
[11:43] <adamant1988> well this is odd... I have two java programs installed...
[11:43] <nickrud> nullified, sudo dpkg-reconfigure --config java
[11:43] <chavo> ninjaplimsoles, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15492 here's the command I use to launch urxvt and I explained each option.
[11:43] <nullified> thanks nickrud
[11:43] <nostalg1c> nickrud: thanks
[11:43] <krazykit> adamant1988: use what nickrud just said, `sudo dpkg-reconfigure --config java`
[11:43] <lucasvo> anybody using openmosix?
[11:43] <nickrud> nostalg1c, after you've got universe & multiverse enabled, there's about 8,000 programs out there :)
[11:43] <tomnix> nickrud you know how you say that it gives me three options, how do i get it to show the sun java 5 ?
[11:43] <DustyDingo> hm, any idears how i can get rid of that gam_server process, using 16% CPU?
[11:44] <DustyDingo> and please don't bother me with "kill"
[11:44] <eXistenZ> Is it possible to check a more detailed log of what a package installs when it is installed?
[11:44] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: sure, how detailed?
[11:44] <tnks> Earlier, someone indicated that ubuntu sets up power management nicely (relative to the non-setup in Debian).  How does ubuntu manage speedstep for laptops?  A user-space daemon?  Or a kernel with a built-in frequency governor?
[11:44] <krazykit> eXistenZ: dpkg has an option for that.
[11:44] <nullified> nickrud: I get the reply nullified@Borked:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure --config java
[11:44] <nullified> Unknown option: c
[11:44] <krazykit> tnks: depends on how you set it up.
[11:44] <eXistenZ> crimsun_, I need to know what files it modifies.
[11:44] <eXistenZ> krazykit, what option
[11:44] <nickrud> tomnix, you see sun java listed in that command? If so, the number to the left
[11:45] <krazykit> eXistenZ: man dpkg
[11:45] <Knorrie> nullified: i think he meant update-alternatives
[11:45] <eXistenZ> krazykit, and apt-get?
[11:45] <nickrud> nullified, argh, sudo update-alternatives --config java ;)
[11:45] <nullified> thanks nickrud :-)!
[11:45] <krazykit> eXistenZ: i mean... dpkg has the option.  read the man page.
[11:45] <tnks> krazykit: just trying to get a feel of what Ubuntu does that's a step beyond Debian.
[11:45] <krazykit> tnks:
[11:45] <Knorrie> nullified: also --config javac and --config jar
[11:45] <krazykit> err
[11:46] <thenerdsangle> i can't find out if my info is out of date or not. does ubuntu support airport extreme?
[11:46] <krazykit> tnks: by default, it uses the performance daemon.  you can set it to one of the others by loading the modules (don't recall what they are, look it up) or switching it to userspace and using powernowd.  cpufreqd switches between the governers, i think
[11:46] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: dpkg -L foo  will tell you the list of files; if they're conffiles they won't necessarily be in that output. You'd need to see dpkg -D3773
[11:46] <benplaut> anyone know of a program for MIDI stuff... composing music?
[11:47] <eXistenZ> crimsun_, how can I know what has the package modified in some files?
[11:47] <CrashProne> How do I edit initscripts?
[11:47] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: diff before-and-after versions
[11:47] <AlienX> just tried to re-install ubuntu and grub is still giving me an error 21
[11:47] <krazykit> CrashProne: with an editor.
[11:47] <adamant1988> krazykit: thanks, the problem was that I had two enviroments...
[11:47] <CrashProne> As in, I don't know where they are.
[11:47] <krazykit> CrashProne: it's just plain text.  make sure to back it up
[11:48] <nullified> Thanks all solved my issues
[11:48] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: p{re,ost}{re,inst} will give you more clues
[11:48] <feg> i can't find the init scritp that run wpa_supplicant. where is it?
[11:48] <krazykit> CrashProne: back them up first... /etc/init.d/*
[11:48] <SurfnKid> How can I check if my Linksys , WUSB12v1 802.11 Adapter works with Dapper?
[11:48] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: sorry, p{re,ost}{rm,inst}
[11:48] <CrashProne> Oh yeah, there! >_<  Hehe
[11:48] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. As expected. Things went OK.
[11:48] <feg> cause i don't need wpa_supplicant on my laptop
[11:48] <anima> Can anyone remember that one GPG Key manager that sits in the panel?
[11:48] <GuardianAtomos> SurfnKid, I'm having problems with my Linksys USB adapter.
[11:49] <crimsun_> feg: we don't use an initscript.
[11:49] <GuardianAtomos> It freezes Dapper when I enable it.
[11:49] <jadacyrus> whats the filesystem type for mountin an .iso image?
[11:49] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I am now going to try and install a piece of software from within an xterm. Bear with me, as the machine might crash again.
[11:49] <jadacyrus> i beleive its a dvd iso
[11:49] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ok
[11:49] <SurfnKid> GuardianAtomos, is that the same one? which driver did u use
[11:49] <salah> hi. does flash work with firefox 1.5.04?
[11:49] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Here goes.
[11:49] <eXistenZ> crimsun_, I'm trying to figure out why the php package doesn't copy the files php5something.conf and something.load to mods-available in apache2
[11:49] <tomnix> nickrud yeah i think i do, although shows a different version. ahh well it functions now so its ok, ill ask for some more help when im not on via vnc its a bit slow
[11:49] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: then check the preinst and postinst scripts
[11:49] <feg> crimsun_, well, i can't find it in gnome-session too?what can i do to stop daemon?
[11:49] <GuardianAtomos> SurfnKid: I have the WUSB54Gv4 I think. I have no clue what driver.
[11:49] <gentoo_helper> Looks good so far.
[11:50] <SurfnKid> GuardianAtomos, What site can I look for the driver
[11:50] <GuardianAtomos> The one that Dapper installed for me.
[11:50] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Looks good so far.
[11:50] <SurfnKid> GuardianAtomos, oh ok
[11:50] <eXistenZ> crimsun_, what scripts?
[11:50] <pppoe_dude> salah, it should. did u install flashplugin-nonfree?
[11:50] <GuardianAtomos> SurfnKid: Oh, it didn't even install it...
[11:50] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. That went just fine...
[11:50] <crimsun_> feg: just don't use wpasupplicant stanzas in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:50] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, so its not really 100% reproducible?
[11:50] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I still think this may be a bug.
[11:50] <GuardianAtomos> Is there a way to install Dapper without booting in Live Eval mode first?
[11:50] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Actually I think I know how to reproduce this.
[11:50] <MarsRouter> Knorrie : whats about MP3 & WMV movied on Ubuntu?
[11:50] <GuardianAtomos> Similar to how Badgerworked?
[11:50] <salah> pppoe_dude: firefox have a tool for installing flash, but that don't work, and I don't know which other plugin to use
[11:51] <eXistenZ> GuardianAtomos, Check out alternate cd
[11:51] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Allow me to restart the machine, and then run apt-get. It may have something to do with the very first run of apt-get.
[11:51] <pppoe_dude> salah, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:51] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ok
[11:51] <feg> crimsun_, i /etc/network/interfaces i have only lo. the interfaces are managed by nmanager
[11:51] <pppoe_dude> salah, make sure you have the multiverse repositories enabled
[11:51] <GuardianAtomos> eXistenZ: Oh okay. Didn't think about a different version.
[11:51] <GuardianAtomos> I'll look it up. Thanks.
[11:52] <crimsun_> feg: if it really bothers you, just uninstall the wpasupplicant package, which will remove the symlinks to /etc/wpa_supplicant/ifupdown.sh in /etc/network/if-p{re-up,ost-down}.d/
[11:53] <lucasvo> !kernel
[11:53] <echostorm> I was wondering if anyone knows of a program for processig nzb's that actually works? NZB in the repository doesnt connect for szome reason and i havent found any other worthwhile linux apps.
[11:53] <salah> pppoe_dude: thanks :)
[11:54] <anima> Can anyone recommend a GTK GPG key manager frontend?
[11:54] <crimsun_> salah: you can't use Firefox's "built-in" Flash installer. You need to use flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse.
[11:54] <lucasvo> anima: seahorse
[11:54] <feg> crimsun_, well, it doesn't bother me, but i wanted to understand HOW it is called. now i know. thx
[11:54] <Jowi> anima: gpa
[11:54] <pppoe_dude> salah, no problem
[11:55] <Geoffrey2> now, all of the primary repositories (main, restricted, universe, and multiverse) can be accessed through Synaptic, right?
[11:55] <anima> Thanks
[11:55] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well...I didn't even make it as far as rebooting. The machine locked up after I reached the ubuntu page! (I was looking for a package to install)
[11:56] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, It appears I may still have an issue with my Xorg.conf
[11:56] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, hmm... yes definitely something to do with display
[11:56] <apokryphos> Geoffrey2: yes, if they're enabled
[11:56] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, what video card are you using?
[11:56] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Do you know how to deal with the high priority bug that was filed concerning lockups on systems with ATI graphics chipsets?
[11:56] <pppoe_dude> s/definitely/probably
[11:56] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, sorry nope
[11:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude,  S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 
[11:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, That's my graphics card.
[11:57] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, oh. is that via?
[11:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I guess S3 isn't ATI but they did have an agreement at one point.
[11:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I'm pretty sure it's a via.
[11:57] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, sorry back in 2 mins
[11:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok.
[11:58] <Echelon-H> where's xgl init script?
[11:58] <Geoffrey2> apokryphos, ok, so there'd be no particular need to go in and manually edit the source file?
[11:59] <gerardomt> Hoi
[11:59] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i've had problems in breezy with the km266 iirc...
[11:59] <gerardomt> Can you help me?
[11:59] <Echelon-H> where's xgl init script?
[11:59] <ech0> how do i check my diskspace via commandline?
[12:00] <chr1z> ech0: man df
[12:00] <kevin> df -h I think
[12:00] <djk_> how do i find out which kernel module a soundcard uses?
[12:00] <gerardomt> I have a printer, a canon ip1200 and i cant use it because ubuntu dosnt recognize it
[12:00] <ninjaplimsoles> how do i find out what kernel version im running?