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| jose | please...what change is necessary in source.list to install linux-image-amd64-k8 ??? | 10:33 |
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| brokenthorn | Hello people | 03:34 |
| brokenthorn | I want to know how much will ubuntu break if I use a patched vanilla kernel (2.6.16-beyond) | 03:34 |
| brokenthorn | Are any patches applied to the ubuntu kernels critical to it's well function? | 03:35 |
| cjb | brokenthorn: Should work. | 03:44 |
| fabbione | all the bug fixes | 03:44 |
| fabbione | BenC: please pull from my dapper tree | 03:46 |
| fabbione | there should be only a cosmetic change left for debian/changelog | 03:47 |
| brokenthorn | cjb, What does usplash require in the kernel? | 03:47 |
| mjg59 | Nothing | 03:47 |
| mjg59 | Other than vga16fb | 03:47 |
| mjg59 | Well, strictly, any working framebuffer | 03:47 |
| fabbione | we also fixed other stuff like modular vesa | 03:48 |
| alex_joni | mjg59: hi, any idea who maintains/knows about usplash on dapper? | 03:49 |
| mjg59 | Me | 03:49 |
| mjg59 | Or Scott | 03:49 |
| alex_joni | mjg59: yay .. I tried following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto | 03:50 |
| alex_joni | but it stays black | 03:50 |
| alex_joni | I do notice an 'splash not found' or similar, while doing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-...' | 03:51 |
| mjg59 | That's unrelated | 03:52 |
| mjg59 | No idea, I'm afraid. The instructions look correct | 03:52 |
| alex_joni | mjg59: any idea how to debug? any options to usplash? | 03:52 |
| mjg59 | Nope | 03:52 |
| mjg59 | gdb is your best bet | 03:52 |
| alex_joni | ok, thanks.. | 03:53 |
| infinity | alex_joni: Have you tried just running it at the command line, waiting for it to time out, and see if it had anything angry to say? | 03:53 |
| infinity | (Like a failed assertion because your splash image was bigger than your framebuffer, for instance) | 03:53 |
| alex_joni | running what at the command line? | 03:53 |
| infinity | usplash | 03:54 |
| alex_joni | infinity: nice point.. will try | 03:54 |
| alex_joni | infinity: how long is the timeout? | 03:57 |
| alex_joni | infinity: you were right.. 'Assertion 'yy + pixmap->height <= bogl_yres' failed.' | 03:59 |
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| bernard_ | that's pretty angry ;) | 04:13 |
| alex_joni | infinity: is there any way to make the picture centered? | 04:33 |
| alex_joni | infinity: if it's smaller, then it defaults top-left. I tried making the picture wider (630px, but it still is off..) | 04:34 |
| alex_joni | infinity: nm, I'm just beeing stupid today :( | 04:38 |
| alex_joni | mjg59: is there any place where I can read how the usplash stuff works? | 04:40 |
| mjg59 | Nope | 04:40 |
| mjg59 | The code is pretty straightforward, though | 04:40 |
| alex_joni | mjg59: I am wondering how to build a deb that contains the new usplash | 04:41 |
| alex_joni | or will a new make-kpkg already do that? | 04:41 |
| mjg59 | No | 04:43 |
| mjg59 | You need to provide the file in /usr/lib/usplash and update alternatives | 04:43 |
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| zul | hey | 04:44 |
| infinity | zul: Hey dude, 2.6.12 failed on amd64 the same way that 2.6.10 did (more or less) | 04:44 |
| infinity | zul: 2.6.12 also failed on sparc. | 04:44 |
| infinity | zul: You want the logs? | 04:45 |
| zul | infinity: meh.. | 04:45 |
| zul | yeah | 04:45 |
| zul | im fixing breezy as we speak | 04:45 |
| alex_joni | mjg59: as a post-install ? | 04:46 |
| mjg59 | alex_joni: Yes | 04:46 |
| alex_joni | mjg59: ty, so I guess I need to hack the make-kpkg debian/rules | 04:46 |
| zul | infinity: good morning to you too :) | 04:46 |
| infinity | alex_joni: Ideally, you don't want to distribute it with your kernel image. | 04:47 |
| alex_joni | infinity: why not? | 04:47 |
| mjg59 | It would tie a kernel to a given picture | 04:47 |
| mjg59 | Put the artwork in a separate package (which is how kubuntu, xubuntu and edubuntu do it) | 04:47 |
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| alex_joni | oh.. ok, I'll investigate | 04:48 |
| infinity | zul: Sent. | 04:49 |
| zul | thanks...ill take care of it now | 04:50 |
| infinity | Danke. | 04:50 |
| alex_joni | mjg59, infinity: thanks, looks exactly like what I need | 04:52 |
| zul | grrr.. | 05:09 |
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| brokenthorn | mjg59, You said that usplash needs nothing than vga16fb or strictly any working framebuffer. | 05:44 |
| brokenthorn | mjg59, I've chosen vesafb-tng | 05:44 |
| brokenthorn | mjg59, what default mode should I pass: 640x480@60? | 05:45 |
| brokenthorn | mjg59, So that bootsplash won't stay centered or scale ugly if so | 05:45 |
| brokenthorn | Anyone else know? | 05:45 |
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| zul | infinity: any word on that email account? | 06:19 |
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| BenC | infinity: is l-r-m uploaded for dapper? | 07:31 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Hrm. CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND possibly ought to have been switched on. | 07:36 |
| BenC | mjg59: ok, done | 07:39 |
| mjg59 | Ta | 07:39 |
| bernard_ | mjg59: how experimental is that still? | 07:46 |
| mjg59 | To the best of my knowledge, not very | 07:49 |
| mjg59 | (Now - it used to be horribly flaky) | 07:49 |
| mjg59 | Biggest issue is that it's also tied into device suspend as well as host suspend | 07:51 |
| bernard_ | and the device suspend code isn't so crash hot? | 07:57 |
| bernard_ | or just the fact that devices have to be suspended as well now? | 07:59 |
| zul | whee...fixing FTBS is fun.. | 08:00 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 08:00 |
| mjg59 | Hm. I should really set up a linux-laptop git tree at some point | 08:00 |
| BenC | zul: already fixed hoary/breezy FTBFS | 08:00 |
| zul | hoary yes, breezy still working it | 08:01 |
| BenC | I already did I mean :) | 08:01 |
| zul | oh...what about the sparc one? | 08:01 |
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| BenC | didn't know about the sparc one | 08:01 |
| BenC | is that dapper? | 08:01 |
| zul | breezy | 08:01 |
| BenC | so will you take care of all of breezy? | 08:03 |
| zul | im lookin at it right now | 08:04 |
| BenC | I can send you my fixed dpatch for the i387 amd64 typo | 08:04 |
| zul | sure.. | 08:04 |
| BenC | email? | 08:05 |
| zul | yes please | 08:05 |
| BenC | zulcss at something or other | 08:05 |
| zul | zulcss@gmail.com | 08:05 |
| BenC | ok, thanks :) | 08:05 |
| zul | http://zulinux.homelinux.net/ubuntu/kernel/sparc-error.txt | 08:06 |
| BenC | sent | 08:06 |
| BenC | why are we building kernels for breezy-sparc anyway?> | 08:06 |
| zul | infinity: had sent me the build logs and i assumed i ad to fix it *shrug* | 08:08 |
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| BenC | just wondering why the build system even bothers :) | 08:13 |
| zul | hehe...dont as k me :) | 08:13 |
| zul | BenC: breezy is building now | 08:26 |
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| zul | BenC: include/asm/i387.h:193: error: parse error before "GENERIC_NOP8" | 08:56 |
| BenC | interesting | 08:56 |
| BenC | breezy? | 08:56 |
| zul | yep | 08:58 |
| BenC | is that x86 or x86_64? | 08:58 |
| zul | x86_64 | 08:59 |
| BenC | $ cat include/asm-x86_64/i387.h | wc -l | 09:00 |
| BenC | 150 | 09:00 |
| BenC | how can there be an error on line 193? | 09:00 |
| zul | i dont think GERNIC_NOP8 is defined anywhere | 09:00 |
| BenC | but there are only 150 lines in the file | 09:00 |
| zul | mine has 220 | 09:01 |
| zul | sh-3.00# cat i387.h | wc -l | 09:01 |
| zul | 220 | 09:01 |
| zul | sh-3.00# pwd | 09:01 |
| zul | /tmp/linux-source-2.6.12-2.6.12/debian/build/build-amd64-generic/include/asm-x86_64 | 09:01 |
| BenC | even the one in 2.6.17 is only 206 lines | 09:02 |
| zul | weird | 09:02 |
| BenC | something's not right | 09:02 |
| zul | yeah let me look around | 09:02 |
| BenC | zul: did you use the dpatch I sent you? | 09:05 |
| BenC | I put that into my breezy tree and it built | 09:05 |
| zul | grr...let me try again... | 09:06 |
| BenC | that patch does add about 50 lines, and I thought I had it patched when I checked the file size | 09:07 |
| BenC | I didn't, but now that I do, I still don't see a GENERIC_NOP8 in there | 09:07 |
| zul | same here | 09:07 |
| zul | can you send me the patch for breezy? | 09:09 |
| BenC | sent | 09:18 |
| zul | thanks.. | 09:19 |
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| zul | BenC: its building now | 09:40 |
| zul | BenC: should i do another upload with a version bump or how should i handle it | 10:13 |
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| WebMaven | BenC: Whn do you think I'll see the new kernel as an update for Dapper? | 11:31 |
| BenC | zul: in the debian/changelog, change just bump the version on the same changelog entry | 11:38 |
| BenC | zul: and rename the debian/00list-* files to that version | 11:38 |
| BenC | WebMaven: it's up to the -security folks, I have no idea | 11:38 |
| BenC | they are probably waiting on the breezy update to finish | 11:38 |
| BenC | zul: debian/patches/00list-* files I mean | 11:39 |
| BenC | don't forget the hppa one | 11:39 |
| WebMaven | BenC: OK. So when will the Breezy update finish? | 11:40 |
| BenC | WebMaven: when it happens | 11:40 |
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| WebMaven | BenC: Do you have an educated guess, based on your past experience? | 11:41 |
| BenC | anywhere from 1 hour to 7 days | 11:42 |
| WebMaven | Wow. Okay.... | 11:43 |
| WebMaven | I guess I'll just wait then.... | 11:43 |
| crimsun_ | BenC rocks, but he can't predict the future. Yet. | 11:43 |
| WebMaven | Wasn't asking for a prediction, just a guess. | 11:43 |
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| BenC | WebMaven: you do realize that this fixed kernel isn't going to act any different than with acpi=noirq kernel command line, right? | 11:51 |
| WebMaven | Right. | 11:56 |
| zul | BenC: breezy kernel built on amd64 | 11:57 |
| WebMaven | But then, I won't have to worry about re-applying the fix when I do a kernel upgrade, or install the K7 kernel. | 11:57 |
| WebMaven | For example, I just un-installed the 2.6.17 kernel you had me test, and had to apply the flag to the 2.6.15 kernel that was applied by default. | 11:58 |
| WebMaven | I hate doing that. | 11:59 |
| WebMaven | I deal with a lot of FS, and install, upgrade, and modify it all the time, but it's all at the web-app-server level. | 12:00 |
| WebMaven | I really don't want to even have to think about the OS at all, and prefer think about the desktop as little as possible. | 12:00 |
| WebMaven | I know I'm acting a bit like a dog with a bone here, but I wasn't the first reporter for this bug, and I wouldn't be worrying about testing the new kernel so much if the previous reporter hadn't been blown off with only a workaround and no permanent fix. | 12:03 |
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