[12:00] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i think you need to install an older driver of xorg-drivers-via
[12:00] <ech0> chr1z: thank you
[12:00] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, But this is Dapper Drake as far as I know 6.06 right?
[12:00] <chr1z> djk_: lsmod?
[12:00] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, yes, but the way i fixed my problem was by forcing a different version of via drivers
[12:00] <gerardomt> I read about turboprint but i dont have credit card
[12:00] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ofcourse, the two problems could be unrelated, but might be worth giving a shot
[12:01] <djk_> chr1z: that shows which modules are currently loaded
[12:01] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Here's an idea. My mother doesn't exactly do anything that requires 3D accel. Is there a generic driver like "x11" or something that I could use. I think there is one but I don't remember what it's called...
[12:01] <jadacyrus> Im trying to watch a dvd ISO throug gxine, however it seems to be playing fast and skipping through it? Any ideas?
[12:01] <yggdrasil> can somone tell me how to remove and reinstall kde and gnome .. im confusesd as to wheather its kubunt-desktop and gnome-desktop or just gnome
[12:01] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, try 'vesa'
[12:02] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, right. Hold on a second.
[12:02] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, in you xorg.conf, replace 's3' or 'via' with vesa see if it helps
[12:02] <ompaul> gentoo_helper, vesa >>S3 does exist << as a card type
[12:02] <chr1z> djk_: google.com?
[12:02] <gentoo_helper> ompaul, Ok. Then what should I do?
[12:02] <jadacyrus> Im trying to watch a dvd ISO throug gxine, however it seems to be playing fast and skipping through it? Any ideas?
[12:03] <ompaul> gentoo_helper, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<<< and choose the card type and then restart x - logout and in again
[12:03] <chr1z> jadacyrus: don't warez movies
[12:03] <gentoo_helper> ompaul, Yeah...but the driver for the S3 card is apparently what's causing the problem. I don't want use it again.
[12:03] <ompaul> jadacyrus, use mplayer
[12:03] <jadacyrus> chr1z who said anythng about warez
[12:03] <chr1z> jadacyrus: you!
[12:03] <ompaul> gentoo_helper, then vesa and via
[12:03] <__DeamoN> #irc.gigachat.net
[12:03] <jadacyrus> no i didnt
[12:04] <ompaul> gentoo_helper, then vesa and vga
[12:04] <amgad> guys, how can i open a udp port on firestarter????
[12:04] <jadacyrus> havign an iso of a dvd does not automatically imply copyright infringment
[12:04] <gentoo_helper> ompaul, I'm not sure I understand.
[12:04] <chr1z> jadacyrus: we don't support that here, please bring your illegal activity elsewhere
[12:04] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, try vesa then try vga
[12:04] <ompaul> gentoo_helper, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<<< and choose the card type and then restart x
[12:04] <gentoo_helper> ompaul, Choose vesa as my card type using dpkg-reconfigure?
[12:04] <jadacyrus> haha
[12:04] <ompaul> gentoo_helper,
[12:04] <ompaul> correct
[12:04] <jadacyrus> you have no idea what your talking about
[12:04] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, you can do it with either dpkg-reconfigure or editing xorg.xonf
[12:04] <gentoo_helper> ompaul, Ok. I'll give it a shot.
[12:05] <theeil> xfce lost its menu, how do I repair it?
[12:05] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I'll try dpkg reconfigure first...
[12:05] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ok :)
[12:05] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, ompaul, stand by guys.
[12:05] <pppoe_dude> boom
[12:05] <Subhuman> theeil, might be better asking in #xubuntu
[12:05] <theeil> Subhuman: i'll try that
[12:05] <chr1z> jadacyrus: obviously you don't, since you can't even play a downloaded movie
[12:05] <transgaming> hi
[12:06] <transgaming> known anyone where can i find the utility alien in ubuntu
[12:06] <Subhuman> transgaming, "alien"
[12:06] <pppoe_dude> transgaming, sudo apt-get install alien
[12:06] <_jason> !info alien
[12:06] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.64 (dapper), Packaged size: 101 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[12:06] <_jason> transgaming: it is in the main repository, use synaptic or some other apt program to install it
[12:06] <amgad> guys, how can i open a udp port on firestarter????
[12:07] <nathan_> Q: I am trying to reinstall Oracle 10g and all a
[12:07] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. Let me kill X and then try an apt-get
[12:07] <nathan_> I get is and error about post install scripts failing.
[12:08] <chr1z> jadacyrus: like i said before, we don't support illegal downloading of things here
[12:09] <Fizzeh> hey, I am new
[12:09] <Larsson-Sweden> How does festival work? I want to type something, and then a voice should be saying it.
[12:09] <Fizzeh> i have a quick question
[12:10] <Fizzeh> I jsut made a cd from the .iso for i386 ubuntu
[12:10] <Fizzeh> andi  have a messed up version of windows on an old computer
[12:10] <Fizzeh> how can i force a boot from CD?
[12:10] <craig> hey, can anyone tell me where i should go to get help with tvtime?
[12:10] <pppoe_dude> Fizzeh, you need to get into your BIOS setup and choose "boot from CD" under "boot" menu
[12:11] <Fizzeh> how do I go about that?
[12:11] <chr1z> craig: tvtime.com
[12:11] <Fizzeh> I have been striclty mac for a while
[12:11] <pppoe_dude> Fizzeh, have you ever booted from CD before?
[12:11] <Fizzeh> yeah, in mac I jsut hold a button
[12:11] <Fizzeh> haha, oo, is it like hold an f8 or something on start?
[12:11] <xcoder> anybody can help me to setup a tvtuner ?
[12:11] <Maje> Fizzeh, if it doesn't automatically boot from CD, you can usually just press a buttom (my computer is F2 or F12) to enter boot menus
[12:11] <craig> yeah, i am there, it doesn't have what i need on it though.  I need help with a specific tv card
[12:11] <pppoe_dude> Fizzeh, you need to press "del" or "f2" or "f10" when it first starts
[12:12] <Fizzeh> ok, thanks
[12:12] <Fizzeh> I will try that
[12:12] <pppoe_dude> Fizzeh, before windows starts
[12:12] <Maje> I was trying to install wireless nic drivers using ndiswrapper, and everything went fine, except iwconfig showed no "wlan0"...but there was no error message, anyone have ideas?
[12:12] <Fizzeh> brilliant, thanks guys
[12:12] <DarkRavenMixage> hey man where does wine saves the dos drive???
[12:12] <amortvigil> hey where can i check the specifications of my cideo card?
[12:13] <kieranDOA> Google?
[12:13] <amortvigil> video card
[12:13] <chr1z> wtf is a cideo card?
[12:13] <chr1z> rofl
[12:13] <chr1z> wow you're dum,b
[12:13] <Maje> Chill, chr1z
[12:13] <wubrgamer> hey guys, MAJOR issues with my ati graphix card, 1st ! i installed the proprietary drivers, they WORK ! (not without bugs though)
[12:13] <wubrgamer> 2) the only virtual terminal i can access is tty7, BUT when i hit ctrl-alt-(1-7) it goes black, and i cannot access ANY vt, or x session, and have to do a hard reset
[12:13] <wubrgamer> 3) well, 2 is really my only issue
[12:13] <amortvigil> hmmm isnt there any terminal thingy?
[12:13] <kieranDOA> Chr1z: works better when you spell dumb right.
[12:14] <Maje> amort, what video card do you have?
[12:14] <amortvigil> :P
[12:14] <AlienX> grr now grub error 25
[12:14] <chr1z> kieranDOA: i missed typed?
[12:14] <chr1z> rofl
[12:14] <wubrgamer> let's all just be friends, and help me with my vid card issues
[12:14] <amortvigil> an ati out 1989
[12:14] <chr1z> kieranDOA: GEE GEE
[12:14] <Maje> try googling that
[12:14] <Maje> see if you find specs
[12:14] <Echelon-H> how can I make XGL start things when it starts?
[12:14] <chr1z> kieranDOA: TRY AGAIN next TIME!
[12:15] <wubrgamer> if anybody is willing to help, you can also join #wubrgamer, please i will leave soon, how do i resolve this vt thing ?
[12:15] <kieranDOA> chr1z? What?
[12:15] <chr1z> kieranDOA: OWNED
[12:15] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok.
[12:15] <Fizzeh> for an install, do I want to install in text or oem mode?
[12:15] <BSDinux> kiddy...
[12:15] <kieranDOA> chr1z: Are you an asshole by trade or is it just a hobby?
[12:15] <wubrgamer> (vt=virtual terminal)
[12:15] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ?
[12:15] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Things are getting really confusing.
[12:15] <chr1z> kieranDOA: neither, unlike ur mom owned
[12:16] <wubrgamer> hey guys, MAJOR issues with my ati graphix card, 1st ! i installed the proprietary drivers, they WORK ! (not without bugs though)
[12:16] <wubrgamer> 2) the only virtual terminal i can access is tty7, BUT when i hit ctrl-alt-(1-7) it goes black, and i cannot access ANY vt, or x session, and have to do a hard reset
[12:16] <wubrgamer> 3) well, 2 is really my only issue
[12:16] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, what happened?
[12:16] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, apt-get didn't reboot the system, but when I attempted to start xchat to let you know how things were going, the entire machine locked up when I clicked the "connect" button
[12:16] <BlueLaguna> hmm, uname -a always shows the kernel version, right?
[12:16] <chr1z> wubrgamer: try not buying a terrible graphics card next time, okay?
[12:16] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, This is getting really strange.
[12:16] <Maje> uname -r
[12:16] <Fizzeh> for an install, do I want to install in text or oem mode?
[12:16] <BlueLaguna> because the only version that apt-get is showing doesn't match uname -a
[12:16] <krazykit> BlueLaguna: uname -r gives ONLY the version
[12:16] <wubrgamer> ? it's integrated
[12:16] <BlueLaguna> for the kernel-headers
[12:16] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, is that on the vesa driver?
[12:16] <wubrgamer> and i'm poor
[12:16] <nathan_> Q: I removed Oracle 10g.  I now want to reinstall it.  I will not work.  I get post-install errors about no file or dir.  Thanks.
[12:16] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Yes
[12:16] <kieranDOA> chr1z: nice comeback, very original, Anyway. i don't feel like argueing with you
[12:16] <Echelon-H> how can I take a screenshot with the console?
[12:17] <ChrisCrepon> alright i'll be back some time later people
[12:17] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, and you restarterd X?
[12:17] <chr1z> argueing?
[12:17] <chr1z> rofl
[12:17] <openBack> What do I have to do to get filenames that have accented letters in them to display properly on my system? Right nw they get replaced with gibberish
[12:17] <Maje> Arguing on the internet is like the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
[12:17] <chr1z> gee gee
[12:17] <chr1z> Maje: you mean argueing
[12:17] <pppoe_dude> kieranDOA, chr1z do you mind taking this elsewhere?
[12:17] <jadacyrus> wubrgamer: ingore chr1z he is a troll
[12:17] <kieranDOA> arguing*
[12:17] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, yes. I restarted X. I did just notice that the dri line wasn't commented out for vesa, but I didn't think vesa used dri.
[12:17] <Echelon-H> how can I take a screenshot with the console (GNOME)?
[12:17] <eugman> Fizzeh, I'm pretty sure you'd want text mode. oem is good if you actually do distribute computers and want certain setings set and more specific ones not.
[12:17] <kieranDOA> pppoe_dude: i just said i wasnt going to argue :-)
[12:17] <BlueLaguna> I'm trying to get the kernel headers, but all I see is kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-*, when uname shows 2.6.15-23-
[12:17] <Fizzeh> thank eugman
[12:17] <wubrgamer> well, does anybody have any suggestions ?
[12:18] <pppoe_dude> kieranDOA, ok
[12:18] <crimsun_> meh.
[12:18] <pppoe_dude> :)
[12:18] <chr1z> pppoe_dude: he's a liar
[12:18] <SurfnKid> where can I check if my Wireless USB adapter has a compatible chip that ubuntu can load??
[12:18] <zenit> BlueLaguna: apt-cache search kernel-headers
[12:18] <squiddle> openBack  rename 'em or try iconv to correct the charset, if it is a not so good supported fs like vfat or ntfs try some other mount parameters
[12:18] <Maje> I was trying to install wireless nic drivers using ndiswrapper, and everything went fine, driver and hardware are recognized in ndis, except iwconfig showed no "wlan0"...but there was no error message, anyone have ideas?
[12:18] <wubrgamer> i'm in a family that NEEDS to have several users with different terminals (me = sudoer, other members of family = windows users, i cannot allow them to muck with my account, too uggy)
[12:19] <BlueLaguna> zenit: I did that, but as I said, it only shows kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-*
[12:19] <Eleaf> hmm
[12:19] <ajnewbold> hi, I just tried to compile something, and was told that I don't have a compiler :-/  what's the easiest way to get one?
[12:19] <spikeb> wubrgamer: accounts after the first one created dont automatically get sudo access
[12:19] <wubrgamer> i know
[12:19] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Perhaps I should give vga a shot?
[12:19] <wubrgamer> but i can't log them on
[12:19] <wubrgamer> not without loggin out
[12:19] <zenit> BlueLaguna: how about linux-kernel-headers?
[12:20] <BlueLaguna> ajnewbold: sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:20] <eugman> wurbgamer, have you tried switch user?
[12:20] <spikeb> in dapper, there's a fast user switcher
[12:20] <ajnewbold> thanks :-)
[12:20] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, yes. there is a chance also that there is a hardware problem. did u have things like this happening in windows?
[12:20] <wubrgamer> yes
[12:20] <_jason> ajmitch_: install build-essential it will give you gcc as well as the other stuff you need to compile
[12:20] <_jason> bah
[12:20] <ubuntu> hello guys
[12:20] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, No. Nothing like this in windows. :(
[12:20] <_jason> ajnewbold: install build-essential it will give you gcc as well as the other stuff you need to compile
[12:20] <BlueLaguna> zenit: I actually have that already installed, but that's an outdated kernel...
[12:20] <gentoo_helper> ubuntu, Hello.
[12:21] <ubuntu> am so happy to be here
[12:21] <DarkRavenMixage> someone knows how to play amr files?
[12:21] <SAM_theman> yo people
[12:21] <ubuntu> its my first time
[12:21] <ajnewbold> _jason: do I do that with the apt-get thing too?
[12:21] <wubrgamer> i know that, BUT i cannot do that without my screen blanking and my pc rendered unusable
[12:21] <_jason> ajnewbold: yep: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:21] <MTecknology> ubuntu, i'll be gentle
[12:21] <SAM_theman> ubuntu, what u mean?
[12:21] <BlueLaguna> zenit: I've been using Ubuntu for about a month and was using Breezy before I upgraded to Dapper, so it's possible I had that kernel before
[12:21] <gentoo_helper> ubuntu, Good for you. Hopefully your install went a little more smoothly than mine. :)
[12:21] <ajnewbold> _jason: cool, thanks
[12:21] <zenit> BlueLaguna: sorry, search for linux-headers
[12:21] <eugman> Ubuntu, your title is the default so that much is obvious. Need any help with anything?
[12:21] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, try disabling all the fancy modules but keep 'via' or 's3' as your driver.
[12:21] <Anderson> I am trying to gzip -d a zip file, but I am getting the error gzip: temp2.zip: unknown suffix - - ignored
[12:21] <SAM_theman> well hell he created it :P
[12:21] <ubuntu> i have a problem
[12:21] <zenit> BlueLaguna: that should give some newer ones
[12:21] <SAM_theman> speak son
[12:22] <eugman> !ask
[12:22] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:22] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, What counts as a "fancy" module?
[12:22] <wubrgamer> hey guys, MAJOR issues with my ati graphix card, 1st ! i installed the proprietary drivers, they WORK ! (not without bugs though)
[12:22] <wubrgamer> 2) the only virtual terminal i can access is tty7, BUT when i hit ctrl-alt-(1-7) it goes black, and i cannot access ANY vt, or x session, and have to do a hard reset
[12:22] <wubrgamer> 3) well, 2 is really my only issue
[12:22] <ubuntu> am running a live session
[12:22] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, like dri, glx, etc.
[12:22] <SAM_theman> k
[12:22] <ubuntu> i have mounted my NTFS
[12:22] <monteiro> how can i disable a service to startup ?
[12:22] <SAM_theman> I know its a little slow
[12:22] <SAM_theman> ok
[12:22] <BlueLaguna> zenit: ah, thanks
[12:22] <ubuntu> but cant access it
[12:22] <Anderson> I am trying to gzip -d a zip file, but I am getting the error gzip: temp2.zip: unknown suffix - - ignored.  The zip file was made in windows with a program called ALZIP. Does anyone have any ideas why this would not be working?
[12:22] <SAM_theman> o o k
[12:22] <Jowi> wubrgamer: make sure your /etc/inittab looks something like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15496
[12:22] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. And switch from using visa to using via? Or was "via" a typo?
[12:22] <zenit> BlueLaguna: you are welcome
[12:22] <BlueLaguna> zenit: why are there so many names for the same thing...?
[12:22] <ubuntu> its giving me an error like
[12:22] <eugman> ubuntu, do you want to read from it or write to it.
[12:22] <openBack> squiddle: so what would I use iconv in conjunction with
[12:22] <bullrage> Now that's a rather cool quote.. 'I have mounted my NTFS' hmm
[12:23] <ubuntu> //mnt: error
[12:23] <squiddle> openBack  start with man iconv
[12:23] <SAM_theman> i know right bullrage
[12:23] <wubrgamer> can i safely copy paste that ?
[12:23] <wubrgamer> jowi
[12:23] <SAM_theman> I think its because its a live cd
[12:23] <MTecknology> ntfs, use this command sudo nautilus
[12:23] <MTecknology> ubuntu,** use this command sudo nautilus
[12:23] <ubuntu> ok
[12:23] <Anderson> I am trying to gzip -d a zip file, but I am getting the error gzip: temp2.zip: unknown suffix - - ignored.  I can however open the file with the GUI archive manager. The zip file was made in windows with a program called ALZIP. Does anyone have any ideas why this would not be working?
[12:23] <ubuntu> let me try that staight away
[12:23] <SAM_theman> ubuntu, I think
[12:24] <Jowi> wubrgamer: should be safe. that is the default inittab for me
[12:24] <zenit> BlueLaguna: good question, I don't know.
[12:24] <MTecknology> ubuntu, you should be able to just open it once you are root
[12:24] <eugman> hey MTecknology,.......
[12:24] <eugman> !gksudo
[12:24] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run qt applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[12:24] <DarkRavenMixage> is there an equivalent for the ctrl alt cand of windows?
[12:24] <wubrgamer> alright
[12:24] <ubuntu> yea
[12:24] <DarkRavenMixage> canc
[12:24] <ubuntu> but i cant
[12:24] <gentoo_helper> ubuntu, Listen. I don't know how new you are to IRC, but it is difficult to see your comments among the hundreds of others showing up every few seconds. If you would care to address your remarks to someone (by adding something like gentoo_helper, <-- with a comma) it would be very helpful.
[12:24] <ubuntu> thats why i need a solution to that issue
[12:24] <Jowi> wubrgamer: you can just save it as another file and use "diff" to see the difference between your and mine
[12:24] <MTecknology> eugman, ty for that
[12:24] <SAM_theman> ubuntu, I told u the live cd doesn't let you acess everything
[12:24] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, to via or s3 which ever one was first
[12:24] <openBack> squiddle: I did that, but it seems that it deals with file contents. My issue is only with filenames, as I have mp3s with brazilian artist names, which are incorrect if I leave off the accents and such
[12:24] <Jowi> wubrgamer: btw, I am refferring to the vts
[12:24] <ubuntu> gentoo thanks for that adviceok
[12:24] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Hello? Sorry, but do you want me to keep visa as my driver?
[12:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Oh. Use via?
[12:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Hmm....Hold on.
[12:25] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, you will have to try diffrent combinations
[12:25] <ubuntu> SAM_theman thanks , i now know why
[12:25] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, you seem to have a cocktail of problems ;)
[12:25] <Jowi> wubrgamer: copy the text without linenumbers of course
[12:25] <SAM_theman> ubuntu, haha little ones..
[12:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, No kidding.
[12:25] <wubrgamer> jowi
[12:25] <wubrgamer> what is that file again ?
[12:26] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I am really wondering why I don't have these same problems in Gentoo. I guess it's just 'cause I'm used to setting things up in Gentoo... :)
[12:26] <Jowi> wubrgamer: /etc/inittab. it describes the VTs
[12:26] <wubrgamer> alright
[12:26] <Jowi> wubrgamer: ...amongst other things
[12:26] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, might be a different version of X or different drivers
[12:26] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, did you use Xfree86 or Xorg in gentoo?'
[12:26] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Yeah. I usually just use generic drivers on ATI or via hardware.
[12:27] <wubrgamer> i'ma gonna reboot
[12:27] <eugman> Jowi, I think that st is redundant.
[12:27] <wubrgamer> gimme a secong
[12:27] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Xorg. Xfree86 is too old.
[12:27] <Jowi> eugman: I am not native english so I believe you :)
[12:27] <ubuntu> SAMtheman, how can i set up diskless clients on my network?
[12:28] <pppoe_dude> brb
[12:28] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok.
[12:28] <Warbo> Hmmm. #ubuntu-xgl seems very quiet. Does anyone in here know of issues between Compiz and the root window (chbg specifically)
[12:28] <eugman> Jowi, Either one would work but I think amongst puts more emphasis on location. Then again I could be wrong.
[12:28] <Echelon-H> how can I take screenshot inside XGL?
[12:28] <Jowi> Warbo: composite has that issue at least. I use feh to change background image
[12:29] <openBack> What would I have to do to get filenames that have accented letters in them to display properly on my system? Right now they get replaced with gibberish
[12:29] <Warbo> Echelon-H: The same way as normal (I like doing it from the GIMP)
[12:29] <SAM_theman> Yo guys here is my problem I was telling you hommies about a couple hours back -->(http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15497)
[12:29] <Jowi> !info feh
[12:29] <ubotu> feh: (imlib2 based image viewer), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.3.4-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 272 kB, Installed size: 528 kB
[12:29] <Warbo> Jowi: Does that change root window or Nautilus?
[12:29] <Echelon-H> Warbo, im sshing. I need to VNC or take a screenshot.
[12:29] <joost_> leave #ubuntu
[12:29] <eugman> Echelon-H, Would Applications->Accessories->Take Screenshot work?
[12:29] <Echelon-H> would ssh get a gui -_-?
[12:29] <Jowi> Warbo: root window as far as I know (I'm not using gnome)
[12:30] <Subhuman> Echelon-H, ssh can do X11Forwarding
[12:30] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. Killing X.
[12:30] <SonicChao> Which is better? GNOME or KDE?
[12:30] <Warbo> Jowi: OK thanks
[12:30] <Subhuman> which forwards the desktop to the remote client.
[12:30] <Jowi> eugman: thanks for the correction
[12:30] <Geoffrey2> just gotta love it, 20 people in #crossover, not one saying a word
[12:30] <Subhuman> SonicChao, itz down to preference , ask at #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:30] <Echelon-H> Subhuman, alright now thats handy. how do I do that?
[12:30] <Warbo> SonicChao: They are both equally good, it is a matter of preference
[12:30] <Subhuman> Echelon-H, im not sure, i jus use vnc
[12:30] <xcoder> anybody can help me to setup a tvtuner pls ?
[12:30] <Subhuman> !xforwarding
[12:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Subhuman
[12:30] <Echelon-H> Subhuman, me too, but I use X11vnc...
[12:31] <Subhuman> Echelon-H, google "forward X in SSH ubuntu"
[12:31] <mythicness> http://www.mirc.net/paste/?718
[12:31] <Subhuman> itz like one setting to change i think.
[12:31] <mythicness> can someone tell me what is wrong with my lilo.conf
[12:31] <Warbo> SonicChao: GNOME was originally made because KDE didn't use open source components (QT), but now QT is open source so there is no argument either way
[12:31] <Jowi> Echelon-H: it's simple: ssh user@hostname -X
[12:31] <mythicness> It just spits out a whole lot of 9A 9A 9A's when I try boot
[12:31] <mythicness> http://www.mirc.net/paste/?718
[12:31] <apokryphos> Warbo: no, it wasn't about whether the source was open, it was about the license being used.
[12:32] <LeoStewart> How can I restore the shortcut Control + F?
[12:32] <Warbo> apokryphos: Well, yes. But in layman's terms...
[12:32] <LeoStewart> For some reason it brings up a weird console..
[12:32] <wubrgamer> alright, didn't work
[12:32] <wubrgamer> jowi
[12:32] <apokryphos> Warbo: they're not the same at all; free is emphatically *not* the same as open source; ask RMS ;-)
[12:32] <kayde> i have a 'serious" problem...
[12:32] <Jowi> wubrgamer: then I have no idea what's up.
[12:33] <eugman> LeoStewart, System-> Preferences -> Keboard Shortcuts may have your solution but I dunno.
[12:33] <Warbo> apokryphos: I was going to write Free (capitalised), but realised that not everyone gets the meaning. QT was free, but not Free :)
[12:33] <Jowi> wubrgamer: might be connected to your video driver perhaps.
[12:33] <wubrgamer> problem with my virtual consoles, they don't exist, and when i try to launch them, the screen will go black, and i have to restart manually my computer
[12:33] <Nathanael> Does anyone here have their RHCE?
[12:33] <LeoStewart> eugman yeah, I tried that, but it wasn't listed there.
[12:33] <kayde> I need help with ubuntu keylogging removal1!
[12:33] <wubrgamer> probl
[12:33] <Echelon-H> Jowi, would work with xgl?
[12:33] <wubrgamer> i JUST installed a driver
[12:33] <wubrgamer> jowi
[12:33] <LeoStewart> eugman any other suggestions? ><
[12:33] <roo_> wubrgamer, i had a similar problem, what worked for me is adding vga=771 to my grub boot parameters
[12:33] <eugman> Appeasing the great penguin god?
[12:33] <wubrgamer> ?
[12:34] <wubrgamer> alright why 771 ?
[12:34] <wubrgamer> roo_
[12:34] <pppoe_dude> back
[12:34] <roo_> wubrgamer, well for me a process of trial and error that worked. i tend not to ask questions after something annoying like that gets fixed :)
[12:34] <hound> Does anyone know why I can't use dpkg-reconfigure to configure xorg.conf? using strace I can see that dpkg doesn't even attempt to md5sum xorg.conf, but I can't figure out what the problem is. I've tried setting the md5sums by hand, and I've dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:34] <wubrgamer> what made it 771 ?
[12:34] <wubrgamer> aack
[12:35] <roo_> wubrgamer, its a vga console mode, to do with resolution and colour depth
[12:35] <wubrgamer> alrght
[12:35] <wubrgamer> well i'll try that
[12:35] <roo_> wubrgamer, btw when you switch to VC1, does ctrl_alt_f7 not bring X back up?
[12:35] <Nathanael> As a professional, I am considering replacing Ubutnu on my work laptop with FC5 to encourage familiarity with the distro, but as an individual, I prefer ubutnu...
[12:35] <Nathanael> Moving towards an RHCE
[12:35] <roo_> wubrgamer, 771 is 800x600 and 773 is 1024x768
[12:36] <Jowi> Echelon-H: ssh -X (capital x) will let you log in with ssh but will also allow you to run graphical *applications* remotely. It's mostly useful over a fast line/local network.
[12:36] <wubrgamer> what is 1152*864
[12:36] <wubrgamer> roo_
[12:36] <kayde> I neeed help with removing a keylogger/mouse logger from mo linux pc!!!
[12:36] <wubrgamer> ??/
[12:36] <roo_> wubrgamer, no idea..
[12:36] <eugman> Kayde, how do you know it is there?
[12:37] <roo_> wubrgamer, google for "vga mode 771" and stuff?
[12:37] <Echelon-H> Jowi, it says somethimg about wrong authentication and .Xauthority or something...
[12:37] <Echelon-H> how can i fix this?
[12:37] <AK7> got another noob question: what's the command to start X window system from command line?
[12:37] <pppoe_dude> AK7, X
[12:37] <amortvigil> where can i see what my screen color bitrate is?
[12:37] <chowells2> AK7: startx
[12:37] <kayde> eugman, a warning popup came, saying "warning a malicios mouse logging/keaboard logging something has been detectted" i have the screen shots
[12:38] <AK7> thx
[12:38] <wubrgamer> startx
[12:38] <adaran> hello everyone. is it possible that 3d accelartion is enabled, even though "direct rendering" is reported as "no" with $ glxinfo ?
[12:38] <eugman> Just checking. I wish I could help you but dealin with that stuff is too high level for me.
[12:38] <wubrgamer> what driver is glx ?
[12:38] <yggdrasil> well i kinda fixed it
[12:38] <kayde> aaaughhh1
[12:38] <yggdrasil> at least kde isnt crashing now
[12:38] <yggdrasil> dont know how to fix my gnome
[12:38] <twysted> is there a way in dapper to let a normal user read from a ntfs drive?
[12:38] <Echelon-H> how can I fix the authentication?
[12:38] <pppoe_dude> kayde, was that while browsing the internet?
[12:38] <eugman> wurbgamer, binary nvidia iirc.
[12:38] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Oook. This is, without a doubt, a graphics driver issue.
[12:39] <kayde> pppoe_dude, nope,
[12:39] <yggdrasil> wasup
[12:39] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, anything new?
[12:39] <LeeJunFan> anyone know of a util I can cat text to and create a .ps file for later printing?
[12:39] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, The same reboot problem I just told you about with apt-get was caused by my clicking the "connect" button in Xchat.
[12:39] <kayde> pppoe_dude, ummm i was opennig network managment tool
[12:39] <kayde> pppoe_dude, i have screen shots
[12:39] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, In fact, opening "too many windows" seems to lock the machine up entirely while clicking on too many buttons seems to reboot the machine.
[12:40] <tuv> which version of ipw2200 driver does dapper's kernel has?
[12:40] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ya. nothing new with the via/s3/disbaling glx/dri/etc
[12:40] <roo_> LeeJunFan, abiword can save as pdf.. ?
[12:40] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well yes actually.
[12:40] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, This is what I found out.
[12:40] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, oh ok. so nothing "better" ;)
[12:40] <roo_> LeeJunFan, otherwise you use tetex (latex), but thats more complicated than cat/copy..
[12:40] <wubrgamer> what is the alternative to getting 3d accell on an ati card without downloading the proprietary drivers ? also i need openGL
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> roo_: I need command line.
[12:40] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, the savage and vesa drivers are the only two that will drive X properly.
[12:40] <acidjedi> !gparted
[12:40] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, you don't have your old xorg.conf files by any chance do you?
[12:40] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I have not yet tried commenting out anything other than dri.
[12:41] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I might have a copy...
[12:41] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Let me look.
[12:41] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ok
[12:41] <roo_> LeeJunFan, http://www.pathcom.com/~kujira/pdf2.htm
[12:41] <LeeJunFan> roo_: yeah, I was hoping of something simpler than tetex.
[12:41] <roo_> LeeJunFan, that should get you close/there.
[12:41] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Be warned. I need to open an xterm to look and it might lock up the machine. :(
[12:41] <ompaul> gentoo_helper, question, desktop?
[12:41] <pppoe_dude> haha
[12:41] <Jowi> Echelon-H: have a look here and see (for me it just worked) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[12:41] <acidjedi> Hmm, has anyone here used gparted and could help me with it?
[12:42] <LeeJunFan> roo_: yeah, that's it! Thanks. I think I used enscript to do this a long time ago for a fax gateway I setup.
[12:42] <eugman> acidjedi, I suggest you burna  livecd and use gparted from that so you are certain the drives you are affecting are not mounted.
[12:42] <roo_> LeeJunFan, ace, good luck :)
[12:42] <gentoo_helper> ompaul, What do you mean? Yes. This is a desktop machine. Installed from the ubuntu 6.06 alternate install CD for i386.
[12:42] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Sorry, the oldest copy I have shows me as using vesa, and I was originally using savage.
[12:43] <ompaul> gentoo_helper, got another video card to test it with?
[12:43] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Quite frankly the both lock up, so there isn't much difference.
[12:43] <kayde> i need help with synamptic1!!!!!!!!
[12:43] <gentoo_helper> ompaul, No. :(
[12:43] <gentoo_helper> kayde, Is it crashing?
[12:43] <eugman> kayde, specific if you please.
[12:43] <jake> ok heres the deal ... i cant install irssi on my ubuntu server edition. Its either breezy or hoary. Trying using apt. Whats my next step?
[12:43] <kayde> eugman, can i pm u?
[12:43] <acidjedi> eugman: when I try to use gparted now, it doesn't allow me to resize any drives or anything. If I boot from the live cd it will?
[12:43] <eugman> Sure
[12:43] <wubrgamer> so guys
[12:43] <wubrgamer> problem with my virtual consoles, they don't exist, and when i try to launch them, the screen will go black, and i have to restart manually my computer
[12:43] <bullrage> anybody got any good anagrams for incredibly thick computer users?
[12:44] <byen> Hey guys, I just installed Beagle... but i cant run it... how do i run it?
[12:44] <wubrgamer> please help
[12:44] <byen> can someone help
[12:44] <roo_> wubrgamer, did that not work then?
[12:44] <eugman> Acidjedi, no that's a saftey precaution. Do the drives have a lock symbol to the left?
[12:44] <kayde> egentoo_helper, no, i have an error messag
[12:44] <wubrgamer> nope
[12:44] <Andronicus> can I use itunes?
[12:44] <wubrgamer> nope
[12:44] <acidjedi> Yes
[12:44] <wubrgamer> i've tried
[12:44] <wubrgamer> no, wine doesn't really work with it
[12:44] <twysted> itunes will work in wine
[12:44] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I guess I could start systematically commenting out the "fancy" features in my xorg.conf and see if that makes a difference.
[12:44] <wubrgamer> no it doesn't
[12:44] <wubrgamer> i've tried
[12:44] <spikeb> twysted: some of it will
[12:44] <twysted> really
[12:44] <twysted> is that why im running it right now
[12:44] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Let me give that a shot. I'll kill X and then I'll get back to you.
[12:44] <adaran> can anyone tell me how to get the ati DRI modules to work (not the fglrx stuff?). i can't find a decent howto for that
[12:44] <twysted> just because you couldnt get it to work doesnt mean it WONT work
[12:44] <Andronicus> can I use itunes?  if so, HOW on Ubunutu?
[12:44] <roo_> acidjedi, are you using 'sudo gparted' yeah?
[12:45] <Andronicus> twysted: only in wine?
[12:45] <spikeb> adaran: picking ati as your driver for x should do it
[12:45] <adaran> spikeb, yeah, but i get no "direct rendering"
[12:45] <twysted> Andronicus install wine =)
[12:45] <Andronicus> is there any way to use itunes besides going through wine?
[12:45] <adaran> spikeb, and ~ 200 fps in glxgears
[12:45] <Andronicus> twysted: is there any way to use itunes besides going through wine?
[12:45] <openBack> I use ubuntu on my laptop with a 1200x800, and used 855resolution to get it nice in X, but is it possible to get the console to use the full resolution also?
[12:45] <acidjedi> roo_: It asks for a pass when I start it up, so probably
[12:45] <twysted> nope gotta use wine
[12:45] <spikeb> hmm
[12:45] <Andronicus> twysted: NO other way?
[12:45] <LeoStewart> Andronicus: why do you need to use iTunes?
[12:45] <adaran> spikeb, however, i find the following line my Xorg.0.log : (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled
[12:45] <AK7> Andronicus: it's a windows app... only wine or another windows emulator
[12:45] <spikeb> adaran: check out your xorg.conf and make sure dri on the list of modules to be loaded
[12:45] <adaran> spikeb, so i'm wondering what i'm missing
[12:46] <eugman> Acidjedi, if the drive or partitoion ahs a lock it means it is currently mounted or "in use" and would be unsafe to alter untill you unmounted it.
[12:46] <twysted> as far as i know, nope
[12:46] <Andronicus> LeoStewart: if you ask, you wouldnt understand the answer
[12:46] <Andronicus> AK7: ok
[12:46] <acidjedi> I'll just boot from live, thanks
[12:46] <kayde> LOL
[12:46] <adaran> spikeb, it is. here's my xorg.conf, if you want to take a look: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15494
[12:46] <Andronicus> hasnt been ported?
[12:46] <spikeb> adaran: ok
[12:46] <spikeb> adaran: i'll compare it to mine and see what the diff is
[12:46] <LeoStewart> Adronicus: are there no alternatives for the reason you're using it?
[12:46] <adaran> spikeb, thanks
[12:46] <sybariten> "E: Package irssi has no installation candidate" .... i normally dont have much apt-get problems. What do i do next? Searched the forums.
[12:47] <AK7> It's not open-source, and apple dosn't have great incentive to port for 3% of desktop users... and 3% that isn't fond of DRM :)
[12:47] <adaran> spikeb, d'oh, that was Xorg.0.log
[12:47] <kayde> Fujitsu, hello :-)
[12:47] <adaran> spikeb, one second =)
[12:47] <twysted> Andronicus if your wanting to use your ipod with itunes theres ways to do that as well but i dont know how =)
[12:47] <spikeb> adaran: hehe i just noticed
[12:47] <wubrgamer> problem with my virtual consoles, they don't exist, and when i try to launch them, the screen will go black, and i have to restart manually my computer
[12:47] <Fujitsu> Hi, kayde.
[12:48] <tuv> which version of ipw2200 driver does dapper's kernel have?
[12:48] <adaran> spikeb, getting a bit late, uploading the xorg.conf now
[12:48] <Fujitsu> kayde, join us in #ubuntu-au :)
[12:48] <spikeb> adaran: okie dokie
[12:48] <LeoStewart> Adronicus: you could try gtkpod, banshee, wine, crossover office, and/or VMWare
[12:48] <roo_> tuv, 1.1.1
[12:48] <spikeb> gtkpod is horrible
[12:48] <scud> is there a vpn client for linux that supports cisco vpn profiles?
[12:48] <SurfnKid> Question:
[12:48] <krazykit> Andronicus: amarok does ipod stuff too
[12:48] <wubrgamer> problem with my virtual consoles, they don't exist, and when i try to launch them, the screen will go black, and i have to restart manually my computer
[12:49] <tuv> roo_, great..
[12:49] <krazykit> as long as you install kioslaves, Andronicus
[12:49] <ompaul> scud run past the cisco and use OpenVPN
[12:49] <roo_> tuv, not working for you?
[12:49] <ompaul> :-)
[12:49] <adaran> spikeb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15499
[12:49] <SurfnKid> when i run lsmod I cn see usbcore    129668 3 prism2_usb  does this mean my kernel supports it?
[12:49] <Mysta_> Hello, how do I change the hostname of a machine??????
[12:49] <LeoStewart> Does anyone know why when I press control+f it opens xterm?  And does anyone know how to stop this??
[12:49] <twysted> wubrgamer saw the first time wait for an answer
[12:49] <adaran> spikeb, pretty short, made by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:49] <scud> ompau: my work uses cisco vpn. i was wondering if an oss app supported using cisco vpn profiles
[12:50] <scud> i would like to vpn to work from my ubuntu install
[12:50] <tuv> roo_, haven't upgraded yet.. i did not upgrade the kernel for a long time in breezy since its ipw2200 didn't used to work with wpa.. i had to install ipw2200 driver manually each time i upgrade the kernel
[12:50] <twysted> scud, more then likely not alot of that cisco vpn stuff is closed
[12:50] <roo_> tuv, ah, ok :
[12:50] <tuv> roo_, now that it's pretty new, i'm upgrading to dapper and we'll see how it goes
[12:50] <beerockxs> I only get about 65 fps in glxgears, although DRI is enabled. Radeon 8500, using the open source driver. What's wrong?
[12:50] <spikeb> adaran: try changing "ati" to "radeon"
[12:50] <wubrgamer> problem with my virtual consoles, they don't exist, and when i try to launch them, the screen will go black, and i have to restart manually my computer
[12:50] <spikeb> adaran: that's all i can think of
[12:50] <roo_> tuv, make sure you have the new ipw2200 driver on hd somewhere/cd in case it doesnt work and you need to compile it.
[12:50] <Fujitsu> scud, vpnc.
[12:51] <scud> cool
[12:51] <scud> thanks
[12:51] <Fujitsu> scud, it requires a different config file.
[12:51] <Ernz> Hello room. I was wondering: I have an old laptop, with 80MB (wow!) of Physical RAM. This should be enough to run Ubuntu on. The problem I have is that the laptop BIOS does not allow boot from CD (Which Ubuntu is...) Is there a way I can boot from floppy disk to start with CD support, and then load Ubuntu installer from CD?
[12:51] <Fujitsu> scud, but it's fairly easy to convert them. I did it a couple of days ago for my father.
[12:51] <adaran> spikeb, tried already =)
[12:51] <tuv> roo_, i did :) just downloaded the driver and the firmware in case..
[12:51] <spikeb> adaran: i dunno then
[12:51] <adaran> can you upload your glxinfo ?
[12:51] <odin__> I had some trouble updating ubuntu and now my screen is stuck in a different display dimension, though I'm not sure if that's the only problem
[12:51] <DarkJesus> Everyone join #splendid
[12:51] <Mysta_> Hello, how do I change the hostname of a machine??????
[12:51] <twysted> DarkJesus>  go to hell
[12:51] <DarkJesus> It's about ubuntu, but less crowded
[12:51] <roo_> tuv, heh, good luck dude, im sure you'll be pleased with dapper.
[12:51] <wubrgamer> rightsry
[12:51] <Fujitsu> DarkJesus, please don't.
[12:51] <krazykit> Ernz: i think a grub or lilo floppy ought to do that.  i don't know the specifics though.
[12:51] <wubrgamer> l8r
[12:51] <wubrgamer> i g2g now
[12:51] <tuv> roo_, thanks
[12:51] <odin__> I'm wondering if I should try to downgrade back to Breezy Badger
[12:52] <Ernz> A grub boot disk krazykit?
[12:52] <roo_> Mysta_, edit /etc/hostname?
[12:52] <cyphase> anyone know why an iBook wouldn't be booting from the dapper live cd?
[12:52] <krazykit> odin__: it's a good way to completely nuke your system
[12:52] <cyphase> i tried holding and tapping the C key
[12:52] <semotrucker> can anyone help a newbie in here
[12:52] <twysted> Ernz> there is a opensource bootloader floppy out there i just cannot remember it off the top of my mind, i used it all the time with older machines search sf.net for it
[12:52] <Mysta_> roo_: let me check, thanks
[12:52] <odin__> krazykit:  that doesn't sound very pleasant
[12:52] <roo_> semotrucker, you should just ask the question :)_
[12:52] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, hostname <new name>
[12:52] <krazykit> odin__: it'd be easier to reinstall
[12:52] <Ernz> Ill have a look'see twysted. BRB
[12:53] <odin__> krazykit:  save for the file backup I'd need to do; I heard people saying how they upgraded and downgraded ubuntu all the time
[12:53] <semotrucker> i just installed the newest version and this is my first time useing linux
[12:53] <semotrucker> i'm lost on installing software that i already had
[12:53] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: does it require a restart?
[12:53] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. This looks pretty bad.
[12:53] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, it will change your hostname for that terminal, and if you restart it will change it for the system
[12:53] <krazykit> odin__: well, i wouldn't suggest it.  various config files have differing defaults and syntaxes between version.  i think it'd be a huge pain in the butt to downgrade.
[12:54] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, On the one hand, I now have a reproducible error.
[12:54] <DAC1138> cyphase, try holding the command key and C
[12:54] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, lol
[12:54] <imagery> after I added some hard drives, grub gives error 17 instead of booting. I booted up the kubuntu liveCD and ran grub-install /dev/sdb (that is the HD with kubuntu on it). no change, so I booted up the liveCD again and mounted sdb1 (I only have one partition), chrooted in and ran grub-install /dev/sdb. This gives me "not found or not a block device". fdisk -l returns "cannot open /proc/partitions"
[12:54] <DAC1138> cyphase, when you reboot, that is
[12:54] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, On the other hand, it doesn't back up the "apt-get is bugged" or the "X is misconfigured" hypotheses.
[12:54] <roo_> semotrucker, what do yo need to install?
[12:54] <krazykit> odin__: basically, i don't know how smart apt/dpkg is about config versioning, if it'll keep a newre config or if it'll use the default.
[12:54] <Warbo> twysted: Is there any way to get GRUB on a floppy or CD to chainload another GRUB on a device unsupported by the BIOS? (I currently boot my USB hard drive from a CD)
[12:54] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, And before you ask, the DRI section at the bottom is in fact commented out.
[12:54] <cjones> how do you convert a wmv to a dv?
[12:55] <odin__> krazykit:  well might there be any way to fix my display?  I think it may have gotten messed up cuz I'm using xinerama for dual-monitor display, but that wasn't the only error message I got when it was updating
[12:55] <semotrucker> i am trying to install a game called second life i downloaded unpacked it but i'm lost from there
[12:55] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, lol
[12:55] <krazykit> Warbo: technically, you don't even need to chainload, you can boot straight from that
[12:55] <cyphase> nope
[12:55] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, What's so funny?
[12:55] <DAC1138> cjones, mencoder
[12:55] <roo_> semotrucker, where did it unpack to?
[12:55] <krazykit> odin__: sorry, i don't know anything about xinerama.
[12:55] <semotrucker> desktop
[12:55] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, nothing :)
[12:55] <Warbo> krazykit: That is what I do, but if I can chainload then I don't have to rewrite the disc every time I upgrade my kernel
[12:55] <cjones> dac1138 can i apt get that
[12:55] <pianoboy3333> HELP!!!
[12:55] <DAC1138> cjones, go to freshmeat.net for a frontend to mencoder if the command line is too daunting
[12:55] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, im trying to think of other causes
[12:55] <roo_> semotrucker, is there not a install/setup program in there?
[12:55] <DAC1138> cjones, sure can. mencoder is included with MPlayer
[12:56] <DAC1138> cjones, just make sure you have the win32 video codecs installed
[12:56] <cjones> oh i already have mplayer
[12:56] <pianoboy3333> Oh fuckin god help me
[12:56] <pianoboy3333> please, someone!
[12:56] <semotrucker> none that i can find but like i said i'm totaly new to linux i've been useing windows way to long
[12:56] <Warbo> krazykit: I actually wrote a guide in the Wiki for it as well :) (BootFromUSB)
[12:56] <krazykit> Warbo: ah... then chainloading should work.  it's just not the most elegant solution.  i assume this i san old machine that doesn't have a BIOS update?
[12:56] <imagery> after I added some hard drives, grub gives error 17 instead of booting. I booted up the kubuntu liveCD and ran grub-install /dev/sdb (that is the HD with kubuntu on it). no change, so I booted up the liveCD again and mounted sdb1 (I only have one partition), chrooted in and ran grub-install /dev/sdb. This gives me "not found or not a block device". fdisk -l returns "cannot open /proc/partitions"
[12:56] <pianoboy3333> I'm sorry for cursing, just someone!
[12:56] <krazykit> pianoboy3333: just ask the question
[12:56] <eugman> pianoboy3333, what the problem?
[12:56] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Here's how you reproduce the error: open up xterm and start installing something with apt-get. Then load up an app that has lots of shiny buttons (or at least on or two buttons) like Xchat. Clock on the button of your choice to alternately lock up or reboot the system.
[12:56] <roo_> pianoboy3333, what the hell are you talking about? JUST ASK!
[12:56] <odin__> oh, hey, does anybody know how to get to a laptop's BIOS?  it wont seem to let me get to it on this P2 Compaq Armada 1750
[12:56] <roo_> odin__, i usually hammer as many keys as i can :)
[12:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, *click and *one or two buttons
[12:57] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, lo... that is what's funny. but i guess it is reproducible
[12:57] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i suggest filing a bug report
[12:57] <krazykit> odin__: compaq?  i think it's either f2 or f12
[12:57] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: after running that command, i cannot restart. I receive an error stating, "sudo: unable to lookup atl-vmware01 via gethostbyname()"
[12:57] <Warbo> krazykit: Well it is a few years old. Booting into GRUB from a floppy or CD and trying to access the USB hard drive is unsuccessful though, so I think GRUB relies on the BIOS for getting it's device information
[12:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, This is in no way funny. The fact that my last Ubuntu install had errors just as serious (on a nvidia card, no less) is really not giving me a good imperssion. :(
[12:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, You honestly think this is a bug?
[12:57] <eugman> Just calm down and clearly state your problem. This is the ubuntu support channel, not cleo's help hotline. I'm sure a bunch of us will be glad to help you pianoboy if you tell us what the matter is.
[12:58] <pianoboy3333> I just tried to install xubuntu on to an external drive, but it wrote over my main drive, and formatted the backup on my external drive too
[12:58] <odin__> krazykit:  all the function keys don't work, the best I can get is the boot menu for Windows 2000
[12:58] <pianoboy3333> it's all gone
[12:58] <pianoboy3333> am I totally screwed?
[12:58] <krazykit> odin__: what about escape?
[12:58] <D1> what do you guys think is the fastest audio play between the two? rhythmbox or banshee?
[12:58] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, or bad hardware... im not sure. Do you think it might b something else? maybe your harddisk?
[12:58] <krazykit> pianoboy3333: more or less, yeah.
[12:58] <odin__> krazykit:  heh, I guess I'll just try to hit all the keys, then
[12:58] <rixth> gentoo_helper, I can't reproduce.
[12:58] <Fujitsu> D1, fastest!?
[12:58] <kieranDOA> pianoboy: your pretty much shit outa luck
[12:58] <roo_> pianoboy3333, in short, most probably
[12:58] <eugman> Quite. Likely. I don't think there is much in the way of undeletion with linux.
[12:58] <D1> I mean, less memory intensive, sorry.
[12:58] <roo_> pianoboy3333, did you triple check the parition part of the install?
[12:58] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i've never had such problems (lockups, reboots) with ubuntu
[12:58] <gentoo_helper> rixth, No? Do you have an S3 Inc prosavage card using the savage driver with DRI enabled?
[12:59] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Then I must be very unlucky. :)
[12:59] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, there is some possibility to recover.
[12:59] <rixth> gentoo_helper, man, do you haVE A pENTIUM ii OR SOMETHING?
[12:59] <rixth> E, caps.
[12:59] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: like?
[12:59] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: If it was merely formatted then you could probably get your data back, but if something else has been written to it then you are screwed (either by losing your data or by paying extortionate fees for data recovery experts)
[12:59] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, afraid so ';(
[12:59] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Just so you know the Kubuntu install (that I had difficulties with) was on a different machine. I may have mentioned that or something.
[12:59] <eugman> Now , pianoboy3333, how did the stuff go away? Did you delete it? did it disappear?
[12:59] <pianoboy3333> ok
[12:59] <pianoboy3333> now
[12:59] <pianoboy3333> this is what happened
[12:59] <gentoo_helper> rixth, No. It's an Athlon XP 2400+
[12:59] <rixth> pianoboy3333, stop using the drive NOW
[12:59] <pianoboy3333> so I am, and was on the xubuntu live cd
[12:59] <pianoboy3333> I'm not on the drive now
[12:59] <rixth> pianoboy3333, have you got more than one PC in your household?
[01:00] <pianoboy3333> yes
[01:00] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, sorry but im all out of ideas
[01:00] <pianoboy3333> but I'm on the live cd now
[01:00] <roo_> pianoboy3333, what filesystem types were the partitions wiped?
[01:00] <pianoboy3333> ext3
[01:00] <pianoboy3333> hold on
[01:00] <pianoboy3333> so
[01:00] <g0dchild> I've installed vsftpd - how can i allow users to access files - after creating users for them that is-
[01:00] <pianoboy3333> lemme tell the story
[01:00] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well...
[01:00] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, how are you restarting?
[01:00] <pianoboy3333> I have an external drive partitioned with a 40 gb ext3, another 30 gb ext3, a fat32 and a linux-swap
[01:01] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: ext3 is a bit harder to recover than fat, since it constantly moves data around to stop fragmentation. However, I know it is easier to recover than ReiserFS
[01:01] <g0dchild> :S
[01:01] <rixth> pianoboy3333, http://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm Windows program. Totally excellent. Try it out, the demo version will allow you to see what files can be recovered.
[01:01] <pianoboy3333> ok, hold on
[01:01] <pianoboy3333> lemme finish
[01:01] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I will systematically comment out extra features until the error can no longer be reproduced. If it can be reproduced, then I'll let you know (if you're still here). At that point I may consider putting in a bugreport.
[01:01] <pianoboy3333> no
[01:01] <pianoboy3333> it blew my ubuntu partition
[01:01] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, sounds good! :)
[01:01] <pianoboy3333> I'm mortally screwed
[01:01] <pianoboy3333> but let me finish
[01:01] <cjones> dac1138 ok so how do i do it in console?
[01:01] <pianoboy3333> so
[01:01] <g0dchild> gack, i am gonna go crazy...i know its a bit selfish of me...but i'd appreciate anyone who can help me to get this done with in a matter of minutes- thats all i have :D
[01:01] <Mysta_> stop floodin' the channel plz
[01:01] <Warbo> rixth: Ha. Sounds like a good marketing plan, show you your stuff but make you pay to get it back
[01:01] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: rixth: roo_: I got onto the live cd
[01:01] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, have you got enough space on another computer to make a full 40GB backup of that partition?
[01:01] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: rixth: roo_: or desktop cd as they call it now
[01:02] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: it's gone
[01:02] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, One last thing.
[01:02] <pianoboy3333> but yes
[01:02] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, the partition isn't gone...
[01:02] <rixth> !newline
[01:02] <ubotu> newline is, like, a newline is not punctuation!
[01:02] <Andronicus> I installed Breezy months ago!  How can I upgrade to the Latest version?
[01:02] <Andronicus> is Breezy the latest still?
[01:02] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Andronicus about upgrade
[01:02] <Andronicus> if I may ask; does anyone here make a full time income using Ebay?
[01:02] <gnuNewb007> I have the AMD64 install of Dapper running, is there anyway I can run x86 32bit programs?
[01:02] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: after running that command, i cannot restart. I receive an error stating, "sudo: unable to lookup atl-vmware01 via gethostbyname()"
[01:02] <Warbo> AA! My super (windows) key doesn't work in Compiz!
[01:02] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: rixth: roo_: Fujitsu: no, I have the first partition on my main sata drive as 47 gb ext3, the first on the external as ext3 and 40 gb
[01:02] <roo_> ubotu, heh :)
[01:02] <ubotu> roo_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:02] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I believe the motherboard has a via chipset (north bridge) on board. I have had trouble in the past with via boards when it comes to sound (onboard sound failed on my other machine), perhaps this is another onboard chipset failure?
[01:02] <adaran> is there anything like opengl-config oder gentoo's eselect gl on ubuntu?
[01:02] <Polibio> buenas
[01:02] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, you may wish to try to install the `autopsy' package.
[01:03] <kbrooks> Anderson: we talk dapper, not breezy
[01:03] <Andronicus> is Dapper the latest stable version?
[01:03] <kbrooks> Anderson: yes
[01:03] <Andronicus> Fujitsu: is Dapper the latest stable version?
[01:03] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Though if that's the case, then perhaps I should be having these problems in windows.
[01:03] <Mysta_> Andronicus: yep
[01:03] <Fujitsu> Andronicus, yes.
[01:03] <Andronicus> Mysta_: so I can safely upgrade to that?
[01:03] <pianoboy3333> Warbo: rixth: roo_: Fujitsu: I chose a drive which was 41 gb, but the 1 may have been a 7 now that I think
[01:03] <rixth> pianoboy3333, I have already told you my advice. Load Windows onto a computer, plug your drive in to that computer as slave, then use Stellar Phoenix to have a lookie.
[01:03] <Andronicus> Fujitsu: so I can safely upgrade to that?
[01:03] <pianoboy3333> FUCKIN NOW!
[01:03] <Fujitsu> kbrooks, what do you mean we don't talk Breezy!?
[01:03] <Mysta_> Andronicus: I'd say so
[01:03] <Andronicus> Mysta_: have you?
[01:03] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, watch the language please.
[01:03] <rixth> pianoboy3333, keep it cool.
[01:03] <pianoboy3333> rixth: but there is the xubuntu I installed on it
[01:03] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, ok then change your hostname back to what it was
[01:03] <pianoboy3333> I don't know what
[01:03] <pianoboy3333> to do
[01:03] <pianoboy3333> I think it's lost
[01:04] <pianoboy3333> gone gone
[01:04] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, please install the `autopsy' package.
[01:04] <Polibio> in the callendar on the upper right corner of gnome, how can I make tha Sun(days) appear on the right instead of on the left?
[01:04] <rixth> pianoboy3333, I TOLD YOU WHAT TO DO.
[01:04] <kbrooks> pianoboy3333: WHAT HELP DO U WANT
[01:04] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: I can't on the xubuntu desktop
[01:04] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, then, go to system>admin>networking and under general tab change the hostname
[01:04] <pianoboy3333> it can't find it
[01:04] <rixth> pianoboy3333, if you aren't willing to even listen, don't ask for help.
[01:04] <pianoboy3333> I am
[01:04] <pianoboy3333> but
[01:04] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: I have no GUI
[01:04] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, you need to enable the universe repository.
[01:04] <kbrooks> rixth: CUT THE CAPS OR I'LL CONTINUE CAPPING UP ON YOU
[01:04] <pianoboy3333> but...
[01:04] <Fujitsu> !enter
[01:04] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[01:04] <Andronicus> what does "gksudo "update-manager -d" do?
[01:04] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: ok, how
[01:04] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, hostname <old hostname>
[01:04] <kbrooks> !universe
[01:04] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:04] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: I never really played with sources.list
[01:04] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, open up Synaptic...
[01:04] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. I'll commence with the commenting.
[01:04] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, :(
[01:05] <troy_s> pianoboy333:  final warning.  what is done is done, so panicking will accomplish nothing.  listen to the advice in a calm manner and try what they suggest.
[01:05] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, good lucj
[01:05] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: I get that error when I try and change it back
[01:05] <Daynah> Yikes! Breezy was fine for me, I used the update manager and Dapper started freezing. I had already backed up, so I go to do a reinstall and it's freezing again. Have you guys heard of this problem before? I'm a full switch, so I'm a friend's computer. :)
[01:05] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Thanks man. :)
[01:05] <SurfnKid> where is the Linux Source Tree??
[01:05] <amortvigil> hey is there somethign special to do when im going to chgange the vidio card? or can i just turn it off put the old one out and the other one in?
[01:05] <rixth> Stellar Phoenix supports recovery from :a) Deleted Files / Folders b) Missing Files / Folders c) Formatted Partitions d) Lost Partitions e) Re-partitioned Logical drives
[01:05] <Blissex> SurfnKid: in the Garden of Delights of course.
[01:05] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, are you doing "sudo hostname <name>"?
[01:05] <kieranDOA> Reconfigure x and install drivers.
[01:05] <rixth> Try it pianoboy3333. It is probably your best bet.
[01:05] <troy_s> amortvigil:  put new card in, install probable proprietary drivers and fly.
[01:05] <roo_> SurfnKid, 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers' always works for me
[01:05] <cjones> once you download a program how do you install it ?
[01:05] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: ok, I'm installing the autopsy package
[01:05] <SurfnKid> Blissex, deep in the forest :P
[01:05] <kbrooks> i can read minds.
[01:06] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, good.
[01:06] <kbrooks> i'll tell you what you want.
[01:06] <Daynah> Happiness, and anger, is all in the mind, peeps. :) Your computer is not inherently making you angry. It may amuse many people. :)
[01:06] <SurfnKid> roo_, do i have to be online? im trying to install the wifi card, no network
[01:06] <amortvigil> okay
[01:06] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: yea I am
[01:06] <gnuNewb007> does anyone have any idea how to get opera working with an amd64
[01:06] <SurfnKid> roo_,  will it get it from the cd
[01:06] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, so what exactly is wrong right now?
[01:06] <roo_> SurfnKid, yup, it should be on the cd.
[01:06] <Warbo> gnuNewb007: 32bit chroot
[01:06] <Dreamglider> can anyone tell me why the mplayer plugin for mozilla plays the video in an external window and not inside firefox ?
[01:06] <SurfnKid> grr
[01:06] <troy_s> gnunewb007:  just an opinion, try supporting an open source browser and making it better.
[01:06] <SurfnKid> says it couldnt find packag
[01:06] <gnuNewb007> opera is open source
[01:07] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: I'm encountering extreme lag, hold on
[01:07] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, OK.
[01:07] <Warbo> gnuNewb007: No it isn't. It is gratis, but not libre
[01:07] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: If i try and restart I receive the error stated above, and if I try and change my hostname back, I still get the same error
[01:07] <gnuNewb007> oh
[01:07] <roo_> SurfnKid, not on the cd?
[01:07] <gnuNewb007> thanks for the info
[01:07] <pianoboy3333> I'm okish
[01:07] <Blissex> SurfnKid: you need the binary kernel sources package.
[01:07] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, and that happened after you did hostname <new hostname>?
[01:07] <SurfnKid> roo_, might have to enable universe and multiverse but i dont know
[01:07] <gnuNewb007> alright well i have no problem with firefox, i was just curios
[01:07] <codeyman> hey could anyone get the bluetooth to work on dapper?
[01:07] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: yes
[01:07] <cjones> once you download a program how do you install it ? whats the "exe"
[01:07] <Polibio> in the calendar on the upper right corner of Ubuntu gnome, how can I make that Sun(days) to be the last day of the week instead of the first?t?
[01:07] <Blissex> SurfnKid: it should be on the CD.
[01:07] <Warbo> gnuNewb007: Anyway, there is a guide somewhere.... (I walked a mate through it over MSN the other day)
[01:07] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude only command i ran
[01:07] <gnuNewb007> what about the flash plugin with mozilla
[01:07] <troy_s> gnunewb007:  give epiphany a try perhaps.
[01:07] <roo_> SurfnKid, can't plug in to ethernet to install wifi?
[01:07] <SurfnKid> Blissex, yes i think i do. Will i be able to get that on the main CD/DVD
[01:08] <flo> does anyone have a hint on how can i get a trust usb tablet to work corectly on my dapper?
[01:08] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, 1 sec
[01:08] <Daynah> Polibio, trying to change the setting in Evolution. That cal is connected to Evolution
[01:08] <SurfnKid> roo_, no eth card or adapter, old laptop
[01:08] <troy_s> gnunewb007:  on 64bit, there is no flash nor java plugin, so you will need to look to !flash64 for help.
[01:08] <codeyman> bluetooth anyone?
[01:08] <Fujitsu> gnuNewb007, install flashplugin-nonfree.
[01:08] <Polibio> thanks Daynah
[01:08] <codeyman> any pointer?
[01:08] <Blissex> SurfnKid: should be on the main CD/DVD.
[01:08] <troy_s> flo:  trust?
[01:08] <Daynah> Polibio, I'm not sure exactly WHERE 'cause I'm not on it, but there's a place to fiddle :)
[01:08] <roo_> SurfnKid, cd drive?
[01:08] <Polibio> ok :)
[01:09] <Warbo> gnuNewb007: If you set up a 32bit chroot system then you can install any 32bit apps and link your 64bit system to them
[01:09] <sidewinder> espaol
[01:09] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: ok, it's open
[01:09] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: now what?
[01:09] <troy_s> gnunewb007:  and there are easier ways than the chroot.
[01:09] <gnuNewb007> Warbo: thanks I found the guide
[01:09] <Fujitsu> !es
[01:09] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:09] <SurfnKid> Blissex, what name should i look for
[01:09] <Dreamglider> can anyone tell me why the mplayer plugin for mozilla plays the video in an external window and not inside firefox ?
[01:09] <sidewinder> espaol
[01:09] <gnuNewb007> troy_s: which are?
[01:09] <troy_s> gnunewb007:  again, if you support opensource, you can make the browser you want
[01:09] <sidewinder> quienhabla espaol
[01:09] <flo> troy_s: it's similar to aiptek they say!
[01:09] <Warbo> gnuNewb007: This is the guide I told a friend to use (but make sure you use "dapper" in the sources and not "hoary") http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:09] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, can you try doing hostname <oldhostname> without sudo. I'll brb
[01:09] <troy_s> ubotu, tell gnunewb007 about flash64
[01:10] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude sure will
[01:10] <Daynah> Sorry for the repost, Breezy was working fine for me but when I updated to using the update it started freezing. I then reinstalled using the CD (now I have a clean install) and it's STILL freezing. Has anyone heard of this before?
[01:10] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: ok, sorry, internet cut out
[01:10] <francis> did anyone noticed the zsnes bugs since dapper drake ?
[01:10] <SurfnKid> roo_, yeap Dapper is installed, My Wifi USB adapter is detected, Im trying to configure, compile stuff but I get an error saying Linux source tree /usr/src/linux is incomplete or missing
[01:10] <troy_s> daynah:  lynching at lockup?
[01:10] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: ok, autopsy is running, now what
[01:10] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, OK. Have you got to the web interface?
[01:10] <troy_s> daynah:  rather boot i meant.
[01:10] <Warbo> troy_s: chroot seems to be the most extendable for the future (install loads of apps)
[01:10] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: yes, it says I should disable js should I?
[01:10] <Blissex> SurfnKid: try 'linux-kernel-devel_2.6.15-23.39'
[01:10] <pianoboy3333> javascript that is
[01:10] <SurfnKid> Blissex, ok
[01:10] <troy_s> warbo:  linux32 works just fine on bins assuming you have the install correctly.
[01:10] <Daynah> I reboot at lock up is that what your asking?
[01:11] <pianoboy3333> damn I'm so freaked out
[01:11] <nootrope> wiki sez that my USB wifi card (linksys usb54g) isn't "supported in installed system" and doesn't "work out of the box".  Anyone know how much cajoling is ahead of me if i try to install it nonetheless? i'm a newbie to linux but experienced in other OSs.
[01:11] <pianoboy3333> I can't believe I freakin did this
[01:11] <troy_s> warbo:  i have had zero problems with the !flash64 technique regarding horrible legacy 32bit issues.
[01:11] <Warbo> troy_s: Well I don't have a 64bit system, one of my friends wanted to know how to run WINE
[01:11] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, I think Javascript is fine...
[01:11] <cjones> hey what do we do if pastebin is broke ?
[01:11] <pianoboy3333> ok
[01:11] <SurfnKid> Blissex, man it aint there, do i have to enable multiverse and universe?
[01:11] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: so now what?
[01:11] <Daynah> Pianoboy, don't worry, computers sometimes actually explode. As long as it's not doing THAT, you're fine. :)
[01:11] <troy_s> warbo:  no need for wine really, imho.
[01:11] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: new case?
[01:11] <roo_> SurfnKid, does 'iwconfig' show up wifi adapter?
[01:11] <Blissex> SurfnKid: it is on the CD...
[01:11] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, yep.
[01:11] <Warbo> troy_s: Well he insisted :)
[01:11] <codeyman> Has anyone successful configuring bluetooth?
[01:11] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, just enter the name of the case, name of the machine, as you go through the steps.
[01:11] <SurfnKid> Blissex, thru synaptic tho right
[01:11] <troy_s> warbo:  oh well.  some people have troubles with their security blankets :)
[01:12] <SurfnKid> roo_, NM doesnt show anything but the PPP adapter
[01:12] <Warbo> codeyman: It works for me with a bit of setting up (KDE was flawlessly automatic, but GNOME isn't)
[01:12] <Daynah> Troy: I reboot when it freezes using the button, is that what you're asking?
[01:12] <codeyman> Warbo: can u tell me the packages?
[01:12] <troy_s> daynah:  do you get SOME use out of it before it lynches?
[01:12] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: what should I put for investigator names?
[01:12] <SurfnKid> roo_, lsmod shows usbcore with a prism_usb   and 'lsusb' shows WUSB12 Linksys adapter
[01:12] <eXistenZ> Is it possible to install ubuntu on a computer that doesn't have a screen?
[01:12] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: and what exactly does this program do?
[01:12] <Chicken_Fire> hi folks
[01:12] <Blissex> SurfnKid: yes, and also 'linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-23.39'
[01:12] <Chicken_Fire> How do I change the download timeout in for adept? do I have to change it for apt-get? how?
[01:12] <cjones> can someone help me install dpencoder
[01:12] <codeyman> Warbo: is it gnome-bluetooth?
[01:13] <Warbo> codeyman: gnome-bluetooth (and you may want to use Konqueror for transfering files and stuff)
[01:13] <troy_s> daynah:  if so, i would put dollars to doughnuts that you have an ati or nvidia card and the proprietary drivers are causing x to lynch up.  try flipping to a virt term via ctrl/alt/f1 etc.
[01:13] <Daynah> Troy: Yeah, a bit. I would guess somewhere between 2-5 minutes though. Just enough to open up an im and start complaining. ;)
[01:13] <Blissex> SurfnKid: you can register a CD with APT, using 'apt-cdrom'. Read 'man 8 apt-cdrom'
[01:13] <zcat[1] > eXistenZ: you mean like a server?
[01:13] <eXistenZ> zcat[1] , exactly
[01:13] <troy_s> daynah:  am i right regarding the gfx card?
[01:13] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: you there?
[01:13] <codeyman> Warbo: I did an apt-get but its giving me python error...
[01:13] <zcat[1] > Probably easiest to plug in a screen for the install, but it will definately run with no screen.
[01:14] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: are you there?
[01:14] <Daynah> troy: I believe it's an ati card
[01:14] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, just leave the names blank.
[01:14] <SurfnKid> Blissex, it reads the CD, I installed Dapper all from it, Im just looking for that linux-kernel file you mention
[01:14] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, I was called away for a minute.
[01:14] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu: can we start a pm?
[01:14] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, back
[01:14] <troy_s> daynah:  bingo!  change your driver to vesa, and i bet it will quit locking up.
[01:14] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, did it work
[01:14] <Fujitsu> pianoboy3333, yes.
[01:14] <Warbo> codeyman: The package worked for me, so I think it may be a problem with the way your system is set up (is that a python dependency, or does it install fine but gets a Python error when running it?)
[01:15] <troy_s> daynah:  then you will need to crimp back some of the options in xorg.conf for the proprietary ati drivers and you should be fine.  as fine as you can get with closed source drivers that is :)
[01:15] <Blissex> SurfnKid: if you register the CD with APT, Synaptic will just load the right packages from it.
[01:15] <kieranDOA> Speaking of python
[01:15] <codeyman> Warbo: It installs fine but error is there when running it
[01:15] <Daynah> Troy: Thanks baby! I've only been using Linux for about 7 months. How do you think I can get linux to give me more time?
[01:15] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude nope it told me i had to be sudo
[01:15] <Warbo> troy_s: You seem to like your Freedom :)
[01:15] <kieranDOA> Does anyone know of a good python IDE for ubuntu PPC?
[01:15] <troy_s> daynah:  say goodbye to x for a few minutes.
[01:15] <troy_s> daynah:  boot to a recovery cli only mode.
[01:15] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, ok, try typing "sudo su" do you get that same error?
[01:15] <SurfnKid> Blissex, oh I see, DVD too? the whole 3.2GB?
[01:15] <Mysta_> ppp
[01:15] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude yes i do
[01:15] <troy_s> warbo:  its very important, especially regarding computers.
[01:16] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  no opinions:  eric, idle, boa
[01:16] <Warbo> codeyman: Try installing any python packages which seem relevent (check gnome-bluetooth's suggested and recommended packages in Synaptic)
[01:16] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, ok are you in a virtual terminal?
[01:16] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  ultimately you can use plugins for vi and emacs too.
[01:16] <codeyman> Warbo: hmmm... will try that
[01:16] <Daynah> Troy: Thanks a LOT! I'll be on later to help you guys more with the easier questions if I can :) But for now... BOYFRIEND!
[01:16] <jatilq> how do I get dpkg to overwrite while installing?
[01:16] <kieranDOA> Bah, IDLE sucks, ill try the others :-)
[01:16] <troy_s> daynah:  you will need to be comfortable with a cli only editor
[01:17] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: im connected via SSH, and the computer is in our server Room
[01:17] <jatilq> is it dpkg -r
[01:17] <troy_s> daynah:  nano, emacs, vi -- i am a vi fellow, but for a newer person start with nano :)
[01:17] <jatilq> or something?
[01:17] <kieranDOA> eric looks promising :-)
[01:17] <SurfnKid> Blissex, I added it, thru synaptic
[01:17] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, oh, i.c. this is probably why this is happening
[01:17] <SurfnKid> Blissex, reading index files
[01:17] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, can you open up another ssh session to that same computer?
[01:17] <troy_s> mysta:  what is your issue exactly?
[01:17] <Blissex> SurfnKid: ah yes, its will take a while.
[01:17] <SurfnKid> Blissex, i dont care :P
[01:17] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  i prefer plain text editors... it helps your coding really in the end.
[01:17] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: when i look at my /etc/hosts file it still states the old host name
[01:17] <kieranDOA> troy_s: How so?
[01:18] <codeyman> Warbo: Synaptic shows it as already installed... isnt it just a front end to apt-get
[01:18] <Mysta_> troy_s: I wanted to change my hostname and now it seems i can't run any sudo commands...
[01:18] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, your hostname wont change until you rstart
[01:18] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  ide's tend to lend to being crutches... look at all the folks who can't code now without visual studio. :)
[01:18] <Warbo> My super keys don't work anymore, can someone suggest anything (just switched to XGL again)
[01:18] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, but because you are on ssh, i think this is happening with you
[01:18] <troy_s> mysta:  you logged on with an admin account via ssh?
[01:18] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: do you suggest i attempt to restart locally as oppose to via SSH
[01:18] <Mysta_> troy_s: yes
[01:19] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. Even commenting out ALL the modules doesn't do the trick. Is there a channel for the ubuntu developers? Because they might like to hear about this.
[01:19] <troy_s> mysta:  sudo vi /etc/hostname
[01:19] <kieranDOA> troy_s: its normally alot easier to manage alot of files etc using an IDE, and i started of with vim and gcc. so i dont depend on an IDE :-)
[01:19] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, first try opeing another ssh session, and change it back from there (or see if it is different)
[01:19] <troy_s> mysta:  that's all there is.  if you can't sudo, then your pass or account isn't admin.  plain and simple.
[01:19] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, if that's ok, then restart
[01:19] <Warbo> codeyman: Packages have dependencies which must be installed, recommended which make them useful and suggested which are nice. Try all three catagories (in Synaptic just right click a package and go on Properties)
[01:19] <jatilq> is it dpkg -i --force-overwrite that it?
[01:19] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, #ubuntu-dev
[01:19] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, all to obvious. :)
[01:19] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. Let me go check
[01:19] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ok
[01:19] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  good then.  just don't crutch out!  laf.
[01:20] <DynaStab> HELLO
[01:20] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Wait...Can I join that channel? When I join it shows me as the only person there...
[01:20] <SurfnKid> Blissex,  got the Kernel Devel and Kernel Sources. I guess Im going to compile something it seems like
[01:20] <Mysta_> troy_s: i built this machine like 20 minutes ago, its the only account on the machine. i receive this error when running sudo shutdown -r now, "sudo: unable to lookup atl-vmware01 via gethostbyname()"
[01:20] <codeyman> Warbo: apt-get takes care of that... it installs all the dependencies for u
[01:20] <kieranDOA> :-)
[01:20] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: i'll try to connect via another ssh session
[01:20] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, sorry might be #ubuntu-devel
[01:20] <troy_s> mysta:  vmware?!?!?!?!
[01:20] <Warbo> codeyman: Yes, but it does not install RECOMMENDED and SUGGESTED
[01:20] <troy_s> mysta:  you are vmwaring one of the boxes?
[01:21] <Blissex> SurfnKid: fine, but I wonder why you need to compile kernel sources, the standard binary package got practically everything.
[01:21] <SurfnKid> Blissex, if you read something for me maybe you can suggest what i have to set up
[01:21] <Mysta_> troy_s: nope
[01:21] <Warbo> codeyman: A music player might DEPEND on ALSA, RECOMMEND MP3 libraries and SUGGEST visualisations
[01:21] <Mysta_> troy_s: brand new dell poweredge server
[01:21] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, if the new ssh session shows your new hostname, then i think you can safely restart
[01:21] <troy_s> mysta:  something very strange there... vmware error on a darn pure nix system???
[01:22] <raptros-v76> hey, everyone. is gstreamer still broken?
[01:22] <troy_s> mysta:  try a sudo reboot maybe.
[01:22] <Warbo> raptros-v76: When was GStreamer broken?
[01:22] <raptros-v76> Warbo: it hasnt worked for me in dapper. ever
[01:22] <fireloard> has ne1 had any luck setting up a CVS server on ubuntu server 6?.. i keep googling but after setup I try to login and just get "unrecognized auth response fromlocalhost: pam failed to release authenticator"
[01:23] <troy_s> raptros:  that's funny, it works for everyone else.  do you mean dvd playback?
[01:23] <Warbo> raptros-v76: I've had no problems, but I like VLC a lot so I use that
[01:23] <Blissex> SurfnKid: just explain what you are trying to achieve, not what you are trying to do...
[01:23] <SurfnKid> Blissex,  ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/README  In the Prerequisites:
[01:23] <SurfnKid>   part I dont understand whta i need
[01:23] <j3r0m3> hey
[01:23] <raptros-v76> wait.
[01:23] <raptros-v76> maybe it didnt work under the beta
[01:23] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: I successfully connected to another ssh session, but i still get the same error. neuralis, from #ubuntu-server stated this, "if you look at /etc/hosts, you'll find your old hostname in the 127.0.0.1 line. replace it with the new hostname."
[01:23] <[nige] > anyone know if the big desktop and ati drivers are fixed yet?
[01:24] <troy_s> mysta:  you STILL shouldn't be getting  a reboot error.  Sort that out FIRST.  sudo reboot
[01:24] <SurfnKid> Blissex, Trying to install the drivers for the prism chip that the linksys adapter supports, and I looked at the ubuntu supported devices and threw this page with a TAR of instructions and files
[01:24] <troy_s> mysta:  that is way more worrysome than the hostname (which is easy to change)
[01:24] <SurfnKid> Blissex, the adapter is WUSB12v1 Linksys 802.11b adapter
[01:25] <Blissex> SurfnKid: you are approaching this completely from the wrong angle, you are doooooomed.
[01:25] <raptros-v76> anyway, i dont worry about gstreamer any more. i use xine for media.
[01:25] <SurfnKid> Blissex, :S
[01:25] <Blissex> SurfnKid: however, the 'wlan-ng' drivers are available precompiled for the Ubuntu kernel.
[01:25] <SurfnKid> Blissex, ok tell me this then
[01:25] <Mysta_> troy_s: but I am, and I haven't done anything other than install openssh-server. i came to this channel, and figured out how to run sudo hostname atl-vmware01. then i tried to run sudo shutdown -r now, and received this error. this all happen within 20 mins of building this server
[01:26] <codeyman> Warbo: Still gives me errors... I went to the options and marked recommended as dependencies...
[01:26] <Blissex> SurfnKid: just add the suitable sources and then search for "wlan-ng" with Synaptic
[01:26] <SurfnKid> Blissex, is this why i can see the the usbcore prism driver when i run 'lsmod'?
[01:26] <SurfnKid> Blissex, oh ok
[01:26] <Blissex> SurfnKid: probably indeed.
[01:26] <Warbo> codeyman: I will check how mine is set up
[01:26] <SurfnKid> Blissex, i see, Ithougght Dapper would already have things installed and in the kernel
[01:26] <troy_s> mysta:  you should only change the hosts file to change hostname
[01:26] <eXistenZ> where can I get the ubuntu server from
[01:26] <codeyman> Warbo: Thanx
[01:26] <DynaStab> dapper makes me wet
[01:26] <troy_s> mysta:  but try a reboot and see if it fixes it.
[01:26] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with a hard drive problem? Fujitsu started helping me with the program autopsy, but he had to leave, can someone finish helping me?
[01:27] <Blissex> SurfnKid: Dapper has got a lot of stuff installed, but some of it requires proprietary drivers, and those are an optional extra...
[01:27] <troy_s> pianoboy3333:  hang in there, someone will help you.
[01:27] <pianoboy3333> ok
[01:27] <Mysta_> troy_s: see I did not know that, someone suggested sudo hostname as does tldp.org. it seems the only way to restart is a hard reset
[01:27] <Blue89> I downloaded source code to a game not found in synaptic, I cd into it's folder, type ./configure, and it says "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:27] <Blue89> "
[01:27] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, you can either try that or go to the actual machine, open a virtual console and restart it from there (or double check to see if sudo works)
[01:27] <troy_s> mysta:  yes... it is causing a hostname lookup failure.
[01:27] <SurfnKid> Blissex, i found the linux-wlan in synaptic
[01:28] <troy_s> mysta:  try the reboot, then learn from the mistake.  sudo reboot
[01:28] <Seveas> !tell Blue89 about compiling
[01:28] <troy_s> mysta:  that should hopefully skip the hostname lookup.
[01:28] <Blissex> SurfnKid: that would avoid a lot of grief...
[01:28] <Blue89> Seveas, ty
[01:28] <SurfnKid> Blissex, definitely :D
[01:28] <roo_> Blue89, install gcc
[01:28] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, although sudo should work from within the new session
[01:28] <neo_> can any one helpme with my ati m9 configuration the guides from the website dont seem to work for me
[01:28] <troy_s> mysta:  if that fails, change the hostname BACK to the original using the sudo command, THEN adjust hosts, THEN reboot.  phew.
[01:28] <eugman> Anyone know why gaim continues to flash incessantly even after I clicked the text window?
[01:29] <MTecknology> Is there any way to get the whole list that ubotu uses for my personal reference?
[01:29] <troy_s> mteck:  try asking him help
[01:29] <Blue89> roo_ cc1 is present
[01:29] <apokryphos> MTecknology: it's searchable -- /msg ubotu list
[01:29] <MTecknology> ok
[01:29] <SurfnKid> Blissex, so once that is installed I guess i have to go thru those utilities
[01:29] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude and troy_s: ok, I'll go try that.
[01:29] <troy_s> mysta:  try sudo reboot first :)
[01:29] <Mysta_> troy_s: k
[01:29] <troy_s> mysta:  then try from there.  it is good to learn how to overcome your errors remotely
[01:29] <gorski> problem with totem; want play files, says: This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available.
[01:29] <Blissex> SurfnKid: there are nice GUI frontends for those....
[01:29] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with a hard drive problem? Fujitsu started helping me with the program autopsy, but he had to leave, can someone finish helping me? I seem to have installed xubuntu over my main hard drive, but Fujitsu was helping me try and recover some files that may still be there,  can anyone else help?
[01:30] <Warbo> codeyman: these are my installed packages when I search for bluetooth: bluez-pin bluez-utils gnome-bluetooth kdebluetooth libbluetooth1 libbluetoothq-dev libbtctl2 libgnomebt0 python2.4-libbtctl qobex
[01:30] <Blue89> roo_, it is  /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/cc1
[01:30] <SurfnKid> Blissex, so let me get this right, i just installed the utils not the GUI.  Christ almighty, im learning something new
[01:30] <Mysta_> troy_s: thats very true. I'm glad this happen @ the beginning. It seems i cannot run sudo reboot via SSH.
[01:30] <uXp> does anyone know how i can add a exit menu unde application in ubuntu?
[01:30] <roo_> Blue89, does gcc/cc give you aything in a terminal?
[01:31] <troy_s> mysta:  ok. so that sudo command broke stuff...
[01:31] <troy_s> mysta:  change back to orignal hostname, try a reboot
[01:31] <Blissex> SurfnKid: the GUI is part of GNOME or whatever else...
[01:31] <troy_s> mysta:  ok?
[01:31] <Mysta_> troy_s: k
[01:31] <codeyman> Warbo: Hey I was able to transfer a file to my computer... from the menu
[01:31] <Mysta_> troy_s: brb
[01:31] <troy_s> mysta:  that's a foolish way to change hostname anyways.
[01:31] <Blue89> roo_, cc1 doesn't do anything, you have to type the whole filename
[01:31] <codeyman> Warbo: The command promt gave me an error
[01:31] <Mysta_> troy_s: my mistake, i had no idea
[01:31] <uXp> does anyone know how i can add a exit menu unde application in ubuntu?
[01:31] <fireloard> so uh.. .no1 here knows about cvs server?
[01:31] <Blue89> I added a symlink to /gcc
[01:31] <Warbo> codeyman: Generally it is the PIN which is a bitch to set up
[01:31] <troy_s> mysta:  yep, but for future ref:  /etc/hostname :)
[01:31] <gorski> problem with totem; want play files, says: This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available.
[01:31] <johnsie> hi... what's the command to get into applications configuration?
[01:32] <johnsie> (in gnome)
[01:32] <codeyman> Warbo: I din set the pin... it directly took it ... strange
[01:32] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, might've been my bad advice ;) but thats how i cange my hostname
[01:32] <Warbo> johnsie: gconf-editor
[01:32] <SurfnKid> Blissex, right, Ive got the wlan utils installed what should i do to try to see if the usb adapter responds.  just a ball park suggestion :)
[01:32] <johnsie> thanks :-)
[01:32] <uXp> does anyone know how i can add a exit menu unde application in ubuntu?
[01:32] <MTecknology> can anybody put data into ubotu?
[01:32] <codeyman> Warbo: Can u use it to control presentations?
[01:32] <troy_s> mteck:  yes.
[01:32] <apokryphos> MTecknology: that's right
[01:32] <pppoe_dude> MTecknology, yes with care
[01:32] <Blissex> SurfnKid: try to run the command to list networks.
[01:32] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: its cool, no worries, I learn something so thats whatt I'll take from it
[01:32] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[01:32] <apokryphos> troy_s: /msg ubotu tab :P
[01:32] <MTecknology> wow, that's cool
[01:32] <uXp> does anyone know how i can add a exit menu unde application in ubuntu?
[01:33] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: the guy from #ubuntu-server sent me this link, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1045047&postcount=3
[01:33] <Warbo> codeyman: I have only used it for file transfer really (wow, MP3 phone!) and I DID manage to set it up as a serial device letting me dial the Internet through my mobile, but I would not recommend doing that ()
[01:33] <troy_s> mysta:  hostname controls the name
[01:33] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, sounds good
[01:33] <Blissex> SurfnKid: again GNOME should have a GUI for messing around with WiFi, look at the Ubuntu Wiki for a WiFi tutorial
[01:33] <uXp> does anyone know how i can add a exit menu unde application in ubuntu?
[01:33] <troy_s> mysta:  hosts controls how you want to reference it outside of 127.0.0.1
[01:34] <troy_s> mysta:  or localhost
[01:34] <DynaStab> wut is bettar ubuntu or xubuntu
[01:34] <Warbo> codeyman: There are various ways of controlling XMMS, etc. using bluetooth so it should be possible. As to whether someone has written a program for doing it, I don't know
[01:34] <troy_s> dynastab:  try them both, pick one.
[01:34] <raptros-v76> kubuntu. if you like kde
[01:34] <Chicken__Fire> aarg, I have to press ok for the java licences to install java 1.5, but the adept installer hides it ;((((
[01:34] <DynaStab> troy_s, can i install all the xfce4 stuff on DAPPER
[01:34] <pianoboy3333> Please, can someone help me? I think I mortally screwed my ubuntu partition, I meant to install xubuntu on an external, but it seems to have installed over my main partition, Fujitsu was helping me before and we had started using autopsy to try, but he had to leave
[01:34] <codeyman> Warbo: is there a plugin for xmms?
[01:34] <troy_s> dynastab:  i believe so.
[01:34] <uXp> does anyone know how i can add a exit menu unde application in ubuntu?
[01:34] <siimo> Ubuntu desktop CD refuses to work on my pc  o_X  i get this "Buffer I/O error on device hda"  anyone help?? i tried booting in safe graphical as well!
[01:34] <codeyman> Warbo: or is it inbuilt?
[01:34] <DynaStab> troy_s, i love you
[01:35] <Warbo> codeyman: Not in Ubuntu, but through Google :)
[01:35] <troy_s> uxp:  what is an exit?
[01:35] <codeyman> Warbo: oh k...
[01:35] <kallei> i have compiled my own kernel, and now im trying to install nvidia drivers. It seems like the installer cannot find the kernel headers,  am i supposed to create some symlinks or something to get the headers right?
[01:35] <troy_s> siimo:  test your media before you do an install!!!!
[01:35] <roo_> siimo, a bad burn? try reburning at slowest speed?
[01:35] <uXp> troy_s: like a logout restart menu  like the one located at the top right
[01:35] <troy_s> kallei:  linux must point to your currently compiled kernel
[01:35] <Warbo> kallei: Have you done "make modules_install" in your kernel source tree?
[01:35] <SurfnKid> Blissex, I will do that, thanks for the help, Im gonna play around with the settings a bit to see if i can connect to my AP
[01:35] <codeyman> kallei: use synaptic to download the headers for you
[01:35] <Warbo> codeyman: It is a custom kernel
[01:36] <eugman> siimo, either it proabaly wouldn't be god to install or you have a bad cd. I think there is an option to do an integrity check on it.
[01:36] <pianoboy3333> Please can I have some help
[01:36] <neo_> when i do fglrxinf it retuns this http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/298 how can i solv it ?
[01:36] <pianoboy3333> kbrooks: do you know about using autopsy?
[01:36] <siimo> eugman  roo_ troy_s: i have tested it, infact it boots fine on my other system, i tried kubuntu as well, same error, it never goes past mounting the root filesystem
[01:36] <kallei> now, when should i have made that  after dpkp -i   or ?
[01:36] <Ohzie> Has anybody here gotten media buttons to work?
[01:36] <codeyman> Warbo: oh... my bad
[01:36] <gorski> i have no system sounds!
[01:36] <uXp> does anyone know how i can add a exit menu unde application in ubuntu?
[01:36] <raptros-v76> Ohzie: whatkind of media buttons?
[01:36] <troy_s> siimo:  if you are certain the installation media is good, your hda might be a good starting point looking for errors.
[01:36] <pianoboy3333> please, I really need help, I feel like I'm going to vomit...
[01:36] <raptros-v76> uXp: make a launcher
[01:37] <Ohzie> raptros-v76: volume up/down
[01:37] <codeyman> pianoboy333: what is the problem?
[01:37] <troy_s> piano:  patience.  someone will help.  unfortunately no one is paid to be here.
[01:37] <siimo> troy_s: hda is a brand new DVD+-RW from samsung and its fine with all cds except for ubuntu/kubuntu
[01:37] <kallei> the installer is looking for the headers in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.16-ck12-myname   , and the dir is there, but is it something wrong in the headers or why are they not accepted?
[01:37] <troy_s> siimo:  change media
[01:37] <DynaStab> i want to install dapper
[01:37] <troy_s> siimo:  and i bet it will work.  some drives are very fussy regarding inks.
[01:37] <troy_s> dynastab:  do it.
[01:37] <Warbo> Ohzie: If they make random symbols when you press them in a console, like [^4 or something then I think it can be done by telling X to map them to something, then tell GNOME to map that to a function (like volume, etc.) I have never done it so please don't ask for specifics
[01:38] <uXp> raptros-v76: then what
[01:38] <siimo> but like i said ive tried 2 different media as well   and also kubuntu
[01:38] <gorski> i have no audio output available problem.
[01:38] <siimo> ive even tried CD-RW after CD-R didn't work
[01:38] <troy_s> siimo:  other option is to change hda to your hard disk... shooting in the dark though.
[01:38] <DynaStab> troy_s, im scared, wont it mess up m windows ME
[01:38] <pianoboy3333> I really, really need hard drive help, I'm desperate, please please, can someone help me? I think I mortally screwed my ubuntu partition, I meant to install xubuntu on an external, but it seems to have installed over my main partition, Fujitsu was helping me before and we had started using autopsy to try, but he had to leave
[01:38] <rzuf> ?
[01:38] <uXp> raptros-v76: then what
[01:39] <pianoboy3333> I need someone to continue helping me with autopsy
[01:39] <raptros-v76> uXp: use the menu edit tool.
[01:39] <M1sapoes> :40am]  * Now talking in #ubuntu
[01:39] <M1sapoes> [1:40am]  * Topic is 'Official Ubuntu support channel | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | FAQ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ | Join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter | #ubuntu+1 is open for Edgy Eft'
[01:39] <M1sapoes> [1:40am]  * Set by Hobbsee on Sat Jun 10 15:52:44
[01:39] <M1sapoes> [1:40am]  <uXp> raptros-v76: then what
[01:39] <uXp> its open i don't know the code or w/e to add it
[01:39] <M1sapoes> Juu wann'a piec'a me esseaaa?
[01:39] <troy_s> dynastab:  if you had a long shot and it did, you would only be better off for it :)
[01:39] <M1sapoes> gunna fukin keel juu biitch.
[01:39] <siimo> troy_s: seems like its not just me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186115
[01:39] <M1sapoes> Can I get op'd?
[01:39] <troy_s> m1sapoes:  not this channel.
[01:39] <M1sapoes> I wanna be op here :D
[01:40] <cafuego> M1sapoes: Please go and be a troll elsewhere.
[01:40] <M1sapoes> i have a lot of experience ?
[01:40] <codeyman> pianoboy333: u need to restore data?
[01:40] <uXp> raptros-v76: its open i don't know the code or w/e to add it
[01:40] <pianoboy3333> codeyman: yes
[01:40] <DynaStab> BAN HIM
[01:40] <neo_> when i do fglrxinf it retuns this http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/298 how can i solv it ?
[01:40] <M1sapoes> can i paste one text here?
[01:40] <cafuego> M1sapoes: No, you can't.
[01:40] <uXp> yes
[01:40] <M1sapoes> yes?
[01:40] <M1sapoes> ok
[01:40] <cafuego> M1sapoes: Use a pastebin
[01:40] <pianoboy3333> codeyman: if you think you can help, pm me
[01:41] <M1sapoes> what's a pastebin?
[01:41] <M1sapoes> meh. can i just paste a text here?
[01:41] <cafuego> Type /topic
[01:41] <uXp> raptros-v76: its open i don't know the code or w/e to add it
[01:41] <uXp> does anyone know how i can add a exit menu unde application in ubuntu?
[01:41] <M1sapoes> oh. can I paste a text here?
[01:41] <uXp> yes
[01:41] <troy_s> m1sapoes:  go troll elsewhere.
[01:41] <M1sapoes> i'll leave if i can paste a text ?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> M1sapoes: no use pastebin
[01:42] <cafuego> M1sapoes: Which part of "no" was not clear?
[01:42] <M1sapoes> i dunno what pastebin is :O
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[01:42] <M1sapoes> <script language="JavaScript" src="http://www.pixel2life.com/javascript.js" type="text/JavaScript"></script>
[01:42] <M1sapoes> <link href="http://www.pixel2life.com/stylesheet.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
[01:42] <uXp> WTF...omfg
[01:42] <uXp> does anyone know how i can add a exit menu unde application in ubuntu?
[01:42] <troy_s> goodbye m1sapoes
[01:42] <troy_s> thank you gnomefreak.
[01:42] <cafuego> damn belgians
[01:42] <troy_s> eek
[01:42] <uXp> lol
[01:42] <raptros-v76> uXp: dont encourage trollers
[01:42] <gorski> totem want play.
[01:42] <uXp> i thought he mena like text, what did he mean?
[01:43] <pianoboy3333> I really, really need hard drive help, I'm desperate, please please, can someone help me? I think I mortally screwed my ubuntu partition, I meant to install xubuntu on an external, but it seems to have installed over my main partition, Fujitsu was helping me before and we had started using autopsy to try, but he had to leave
[01:43] <ScislaC> so I'm trying to set something up with ndiswrapper, but I need to find out the "PCIID"... anyone know how to determine this?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:43] <pianoboy3333> I really, really need hard drive help, I'm desperate, please please, can someone help me? I think I mortally screwed my ubuntu partition, I meant to install xubuntu on an external, but it seems to have installed over my main partition, Fujitsu was helping me before and we had started using autopsy to try, but he had to leave, so I need someone else to help finish! I really, really need extreme help
[01:43] <cafuego> ScislaC: 'lspci' will tell you.
[01:43] <MTecknology> How can I make one wiki page link to another... Like making the topic HTML link to html
[01:43] <uXp> so does anyone know how to add a shutdown menu under applications?!
[01:43] <ScislaC> cafuego: thank you!
[01:44] <apokryphos> uXp: please don't repeat so frequently. We hear you; if someone is able/willing to answer, they will :)
[01:44] <raptros-v76> uXp: why? what would be the point considering theres already a button for that?
[01:44] <cafuego> ScislaC: 'lspci' shows devices, you cna get the pciid by running 'lspci -n' (The pciid is the set of XXXX:XXXX hex numbers
[01:44] <MTecknology> uXp, use alacarte
[01:44] <uXp> raptros-v76: i don't like it at the top right
[01:44] <raptros-v76> then move it
[01:45] <uXp> i know but i don't know how to add it MTecknology
[01:45] <uXp> like i don't know hte code MTecknology
[01:45] <raptros-v76> right click on the shutdown button, find out what it launches?
[01:45] <MTecknology> uxp, i guess idk either
[01:45] <aquarius> When booting the dapper i386 CD on this laptop with external USB CDROM, I get the install menu but after "Uncompressing Linux...OK, booting the kernel" it says "usb 4-3: device not accepting address X, error -110", repeated three times with X being 3, 4, and 5.
[01:45] <uXp> you can't right click
[01:46] <raptros-v76> uXp: what?
[01:46] <uXp> it doesn't show hte code, just options
[01:46] <pianoboy3333> IF ANYONE SEES FUJITSU LOGIN TO THE ROOM pm me or email me at pianoboy3333 at juicemedia dot tv
[01:46] <pianoboy3333> sorry for the caps
[01:46] <raptros-v76> uXp: its an applet then.
[01:46] <pianoboy3333> but please, I really need his help
[01:46] <SurfnKid> Blissex, dude i hope you feel pretty good about yourself today, if not, take a break and feel good. my wifi works! thanks!!!!!
[01:46] <Blissex> SurfnKid: good, and thanks for the appreciation!
[01:46] <apokryphos> pianoboy3333: don't ask things like that, just get your IRC client to do it
[01:46] <apokryphos> and no caps, please :P
[01:46] <SurfnKid> yvw!
[01:46] <pianoboy3333> apokryphos: how can xchat-gnome do that?
[01:47] <apokryphos> pianoboy3333: not sure since I don't use it, but I'm sure it can. All irc clients have a feature for "highlighted words"
[01:48] <Fizzeh> Can anybody please help me with wireless networking?
[01:48] <AngryElf> is there an IRkick package?
[01:48] <codeyman> Fizzeh: go on..
[01:49] <neo_> can any one help me with an ati instalation
[01:50] <gorski> totem want play.
[01:50] <DynaStab> neo_, do you have a job?
[01:50] <neo_> can any one help me with an ati instalation i reciving this error http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/298
[01:50] <neo_> DynaStab yes
[01:50] <Polibio> I have mounted a .iso file in /media/iso/   but, when I try to read the contents of the .iso file I can see only a "readme.txt" file that says that my operating system should support UDF.  What can I do to see the contents of the .iso file?
[01:50] <Draconicus> K3b won't support mp3s at the moment. What do I need to install to make it do so?
[01:51] <Fizzeh> thanks codeyman, sorry for that delay
[01:51] <DynaStab> neo_, communist
[01:51] <Fizzeh> I was trying something
[01:51] <Fizzeh> ok, so I have a wireless antenna
[01:51] <neo_> DynaStab need a job to survive
[01:51] <Fizzeh> that worked when that computer ran windows (2 years ago) and I just installed ubuntu today
[01:51] <neo_> DynaStab can you help me ?
[01:52] <DynaStab> neo_, buy an nvidia mr big shot
[01:52] <DynaStab> f' ati
[01:52] <DynaStab> honestly
[01:52] <neo_> DynaStab its a mobile
[01:52] <DynaStab> :/
[01:52] <kbrooks> language
[01:52] <DynaStab> english
[01:53] <DynaStab> i think there is a spanish channel
[01:53] <flyman_ubuntu> has anyone here used /usr/share/doc/examples/SecurityPolicy that uses XC-QUERY-SECURITY-1 auth.
[01:53] <neo_> DynaStab i don't think that buing new stuff is solution.... things are ment to work :P
[01:53] <Polibio> how can I see the contents of an .iso file?
[01:53] <Seveas> DynaStab, behave or leave please.
[01:53] <DynaStab> neo_, when the company supports their product
[01:53] <Fizzeh> codeyman, do I needa driver?
[01:53] <Seveas> Polibio, mount it 
[01:53] <DynaStab> Seveas, um...im miss behaving?
[01:53] <Polibio> but...
[01:53] <Polibio> I have mounted an .iso file in /media/iso/   but, when I try to read the contents of the .iso file I can see only a "readme.txt" file that says that my operating system should support UDF.  What can I do to see the contents of the .iso file?
[01:54] <codeyman> Fizzeh, U said wireless antenna... u mean a PCI card
[01:54] <kbrooks> DynaStab: Yeah. you arent.
[01:54] <Seveas> Polibio, mount it as udf iso 
[01:54] <codeyman> fizzeh: for wireless
[01:54] <flyman_ubuntu> i was getting an xorg error that /usr/lib/xserver  could not find the securitypolicy
[01:54] <Fizzeh> codeyman: yes
[01:54] <DynaStab> kbrooks, are you trying to confuse me
[01:54] <Polibio> ok, I will try
[01:54] <kbrooks> DynaStab: no.
[01:54] <neo_> DynaStab dont wont to help down do it i jus thing that if it's that than you are in the rong channel
[01:54] <Seveas> mount -t udf -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[01:54] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: u still around?
[01:54] <Mysta_> troy_s: what about u?
[01:54] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, sorta
[01:54] <gorski> totem want play (This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available.)
[01:54] <DynaStab> neo_, english channel
[01:54] <kbrooks> Seveas: is udf still a iso?
[01:54] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: that link to ubuntuforums worked wonders
[01:54] <troy_s> mysta:  go
[01:55] <troy_s> mysta:  not long.
[01:55] <neo_> DynaStab and !?
[01:55] <Seveas> kbrooks, it's still mount -o loop 
[01:55] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, cool
[01:55] <Mysta_> troy_s: im back to normal
[01:55] <codeyman> Fizzeh: what does lspci say?
[01:55] <DynaStab> neo_, oh i had to read it three times, sorry
[01:55] <troy_s> mysta:  all it takes is putting hostname in /etc/hostname
[01:55] <flyman_ubuntu> help anyone...i was getting an xorg error that /usr/lib/xserver  could not find the securitypolicy  has anyone here used /usr/share/doc/examples/SecurityPolicy that uses XC-QUERY-SECURITY-1 auth.
[01:55] <troy_s> mysta:  not much more than that.
[01:55] <Mysta_> troy_s: thanks.
[01:55] <Mysta_> pppoe_dude: thx for all your help
[01:55] <troy_s> mysta:  no link to forums needed :)
[01:55] <Fizzeh> codeyman: I am very new, sorry, where is Ispci
[01:55] <pppoe_dude> Mysta_, no problem
[01:55] <troy_s> mysta:  idd you flip it back and manage a reboot?
[01:55] <spikeb> Fizzeh: small L
[01:55] <Seveas> Fizzeh, lspci, not ispci
[01:55] <Mysta_> troy_s: i had to enter the recovery console
[01:55] <Mysta_> as root
[01:56] <troy_s> mysta:  eek!
[01:56] <Fizzeh> Seveas: how do I get that?
[01:56] <troy_s> mysta:  well good foreknowledge for later.
[01:56] <siimo> can someone help me boot the live cd? tried another media still wont go past mounting root filesystem
[01:56] <Mysta_> troy_s: definately!
[01:56] <codeyman> fizzeh: type lspci in command prompt
[01:56] <Seveas> Fizzeh, type it in the terminal (apps  accessories  terminal)
[01:56] <troy_s> mysta:  if that box were across an ocean, you would sol
[01:56] <Mysta_> thx again
[01:56] <neo_> DynaStab lame talk
[01:57] <troy_s> mysta:  you would _be_ sol ;)
[01:57] <neo_> DynaStab admint it you dont know how to do it
[01:57] <Fizzeh> codeyman and seveas: a bunch of stuff was printed, what do you want to know from it?
[01:57] <Mysta_> troy_s: probably, we've got alot of admins, i just happen 2 be the the novice on linux
[01:57] <navreet> anyone here use facebook?
[01:57] <troy_s> mysta:  even so, you should have been able to correct it via the cli in ssh.  but at least you are up again.
[01:58] <apokryphos> navreet: why?
[01:58] <navreet> when I try to add photos (which uses firefox), firefox crashes
[01:58] <Seveas> Fizzeh, anything that looks like a network/ethernet adapter
[01:58] <navreet> amd64... used to use sun's jre
[01:58] <navreet> not sure which jre to use
[01:58] <troy_s> navreet:  there is no java plugin for amd64
[01:58] <navreet> amd64 install was a bad idea IMO =[, flash doesn't work, stuff crashes :(
[01:58] <apokryphos> navreet: facebook doesn't use java, so that's irrelevant.
[01:58] <Mysta_> troy_s: im not sure why, but I would like to know. this forum post states that there is no way to run sudo commands after doing such a thing
[01:58] <troy_s> navreet:  you will need to go to 32bit mode via !flash64 route
[01:58] <navreet> apokryphos, it uses java
[01:59] <troy_s> navreet:  amd64 rocks.  fast.  solid.  stable.
[01:59] <apokryphos> navreet: for adding photos? Erm...
[01:59] <cafuego> navreet: Yeh, for desktop use, pick i386 even on an amd64.
[01:59] <navreet> what's via !flash64
[01:59] <troy_s> mysta:  sounds ill informed.  were you not able to flip it back to the orignal name via that sudo command?
[01:59] <cafuego> navreet: most stuff inn fact runs _faster_ that way.
[01:59] <navreet> troy_s, ya ya... I interned at AMD in 2004
[01:59] <Fizzeh> codeyman and seveas:  0000:02:09.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4303 802.11b Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[01:59] <troy_s> ubotu, tell navreet about flash64
[01:59] <Mysta_> troy_s: nope i couldnt run ANY sudo commands
[01:59] <Seveas> ah, broadcrap
[01:59] <troy_s> mysta:  eek... yes that sound horrific!
[01:59] <kallei> i have compiled my own custom kernel and now I am trying to install the nvidia drivers from albertomilone.eu/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_8762_64. the problem is that the installerscript says it cannot find the kernel headers. A strange thing is that to me, it seems as the kernel-headers is there in the /usr/src ???
[01:59] <Seveas> Fizzeh, I missed the beginning, are you on dapper or breezy?
[02:00] <Fizzeh> seveas: its old - its whats been there for 4 years maybe
[02:00] <troy_s> mysta:  did you logout and log back in ?
[02:00] <Mysta_> troy_s: yes, i attempted that as well
[02:00] <Fizzeh> seveas: I think breezy
[02:00] <Bruva> hya all
[02:00] <troy_s> mysta:  sounds awful for certain.
[02:00] <Tedd> kallei, the kernel headers might have to be in usr/src/linux
[02:00] <Tedd> I might be wrong though
[02:00] <Seveas> Fizzeh, what's the content of /etc/issue?
[02:00] <ompaul> cafuego, mind if I message you?
[02:00] <Polibio> bye
[02:00] <troy_s> kallei:  you need a sym link to your /usr/src/blahheaders from /usr/src/linux
[02:01] <kallei> i have a  symbolic link also
[02:01] <Fizzeh> permission denied, does sudo work on linux (im a mac user)
[02:01] <Mysta_> i have another small issue if you'd like to take a stab @ it, it has to deal w/ a CDROM not being able to  be browsed.....
[02:01] <cafuego> ompaul: Only if saying "yes" would not stop you ;-)
[02:01] <navreet> Fizzeh, sudo works on linux
[02:01] <troy_s> kallei:  /usr/src/linux MUSt point to your currently running / compiled kernel.
[02:01] <Bruva> hey folks - anybody here as can help me? I just need to get the permissions right so as I can access my ntfs drive
[02:01] <Seveas> Fizzeh, it's a file, not a command
[02:01] <Fizzeh> should I do cat?
[02:01] <ompaul> cafuego, hmmm tough call
[02:01] <Seveas> just open it in a text editor
[02:01] <apokryphos> Bruva: FAQ
[02:01] <Seveas> or with cat 
[02:01] <troy_s> kallei:  if you do that, all is well.  if all is not well, you have not done that.
[02:01] <SirGrok> Hello world.
[02:02] <Fizzeh> Urbuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l (but its not an l) - codeyman and seveas
[02:02] <Coffeecup> How can I kill a window where the close X no longer works, and it does not show up in ps -all, or in the top command.  (falconseye locked up)
[02:02] <SirGrok> I am trying to configure my wireless internet, and I can't seem to figure it out.
[02:02] <Seveas> Fizzeh, then you're on dapper, good 
[02:02] <Fizzeh> ok
[02:02] <SirGrok> I have a intel 2950abg (which uses that 2200's driver), and it is installed.
[02:02] <Seveas> Fizzeh, go to ubuntu.cafuego.net and download the broadcom firmware package
[02:02] <harry> how will know the version of my ubuntu. in the terminal
[02:02] <Seveas> Fizzeh, and install it
[02:02] <harry> what command
[02:02] <troy_s> harry:  uname -r
[02:02] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[02:02] <kallei> troy_s: i have it pointing there,   linux -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.16ck12
[02:03] <harry> troy_s: Thanks
[02:03] <Fizzeh> do USB drives work with ubuntu, or will it not know what my mac formatted one is thinking?
[02:03] <SirGrok> I have tried just about everything that I can think of, and I just can't get it.
[02:03] <Mysta_> troy_s: do i have to mount or alter anything to read from a CD-ROM i just popped in
[02:03] <kallei> and i have a dir cointaing the headers, /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.16-ck12-mycustomname/
[02:03] <kallei> is that right?
[02:03] <troy_s> mysta: sorry?
[02:03] <harry> troy_s: how will i know if i'm upgraded to dapper drake???
[02:03] <troy_s> harry, what kernel version is listed?
[02:03] <cafuego> Fizzeh: USB drives work fine, Linux also reads and writes to HFS (though it has some problems writing to hfs+)
[02:03] <threeseas> is all hope lost for getting a printer working under ubuntu?
[02:03] <Drakonik> Is it possible to use Rhythmbox to interact with my iPod?
[02:04] <Drakonik> Or am I stuck with gtkpod?
[02:04] <cafuego> Drakonik: Depends on the printer, eh?
[02:04] <Fizzeh> cafuego: is it fine with reading hfs+?
[02:04] <ompaul> threeseas, what is the printer
[02:04] <harry> troy_s: listed where. i'm not so familiar with all the stuffs in linux
[02:04] <troy_s> kallei:  you need your headers / src in one dir.  point linux to it.  compile kernel form there.
[02:04] <cafuego> Fizzeh: Yep.
[02:04] <ompaul> Seveas, take it easy
[02:04] <Drakonik> ...
[02:04] <troy_s> harry:  what kernel comes up with uname -r
[02:04] <gnomefreak> Seveas: good night
[02:04] <harry> troy_s: i'm a windows user before
[02:04] <SirGrok> Does anyone know where to point me so that I can get help?
[02:04] <Drakonik> cafuego: I'm not tlaking about a printer.
[02:04] <Fizzeh> seveas: do I want the .deb?
[02:04] <harry> troy_s: 2.6.12-9-386
[02:04] <gnomefreak> Fizzeh: yes
[02:04] <Fizzeh> thanks gnomefreak
[02:05] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:05] <kallei> troy_s:  i believe that is what i have done
[02:05] <Rawplayer> when i use transparecy in aterm it works fine but when i maximize the aterm window it gets white
[02:05] <cafuego> Fizzeh: I ran a mac mini with OSX/Linux for a while and had /Users mounted as /home - sharing the homedirs.
[02:05] <Mysta_> troy_s: i cannot read from a CDROM i just put in my drive, do I have to mount something or alter any files???
[02:05] <Rawplayer> how is that possible?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> cafuego: do you host broadcom drivers for breezy and dapper?
[02:05] <Concord_Dawn> Mysta_: You shouldn't.
[02:05] <cafuego> gnomefreak: No, only a firmware package.
[02:05] <threeseas> ompaul: its a canon bjc 4000 and is supported ... but I have never had any success getting any printer working under any linux on any hardware
[02:05] <harry> troy_s: what version is 2.6.12-9-386
[02:05] <troy_s> mysta:  you running ubuntu on it?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[02:05] <Concord_Dawn> Mysta_: You might have to mount your CD drive though
[02:05] <troy_s> harry: not dapper
[02:06] <kallei> i extracted the kernel to /usr/src/linux-2.6.16ck12   , compiled, installed, and then i got the dirs /usr/src/linux-2.6.16-ck12-mycustomname
[02:06] <Concord_Dawn> harry: That
[02:06] <cafuego> Drakonik: Ah :-)    gtkpod is (currently) the only way of managing files.
[02:06] <Mysta_> Concord_Dawn: how do i verify this?
[02:06] <Concord_Dawn> harry: That's a kernel version.
[02:06] <Drakonik> Blargh.
[02:06] <kallei> oops wrong,  i  got the dirs /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.16-ck12-mycustomname
[02:06] <Fizzeh> so now what do I do with this .deb?
[02:06] <Drakonik> Okay. Next question.
[02:06] <Mysta_> if i run ls against cdrom or cdrom0, it returns nothing
[02:06] <gnomefreak> brb gonna look for a page witht he drivers so maybe we can add it to ubotu ;)
[02:06] <niki> can someone suggest a fast pic viewer that i can associate with image files?  it has to be _FAST_!
[02:06] <Concord_Dawn> try ls /media/cdrom
[02:06] <Drakonik> Without VMware or something similar, is it possible for me to run Windows without having to boot Ubuntu down?
[02:06] <Mysta_> but i know theres somethign on the disk
[02:06] <cafuego> gnomefreak: drivers?
[02:07] <harry> am i able to upgrade to dapper drake when running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade???
[02:07] <gnomefreak> for broadcom
[02:07] <Concord_Dawn> Drakonik: No.
[02:07] <kbrooks> Drakonik: qemu
[02:07] <threeseas> ompaul: on ubuntu draper drake it ask for user name and password twice (cups - add printer) and never gets it working
[02:07] <cafuego> gnomefreak: They're in the default kernels.
[02:07] <kbrooks> Concord_Dawn: qemu
[02:07] <Drakonik> Gemu?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[02:07] <kbrooks> Drakonik: q, not g
[02:07] <Concord_Dawn> kbrooks: Qemu is a VM program.
[02:07] <kbrooks> #qemu
[02:07] <Drakonik> Ah.
[02:07] <Mysta_> Concord_Dawn: still nothing
[02:07] <kbrooks> Concord_Dawn: no, it isnt just that
[02:07] <cafuego> niki: pornview?
[02:07] <kbrooks> Concord_Dawn: ITS A EMULATOR
[02:07] <Fizzeh> thanks everyone who helped me out!
[02:07] <Concord_Dawn> Mysta_: /media/cdrom0
[02:08] <ompaul> threeseas, the way to do that on ubuntu is rather simple. System Administration Printing, and follow through
[02:08] <Mysta_> Concord_Dawn: same result. this is really confusing
[02:08] <Concord_Dawn> kbrooks: He wants to run WINDOWS. Not emulate it.
[02:08] <Concord_Dawn> Mysta_: Try /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom0.
[02:08] <Concord_Dawn> Other than that, I'd have to say that Ubuntu can't find your CD drive.
[02:08] <kbrooks> Concord_Dawn: ok, so wine doesnt countthen
[02:09] <threeseas> ompaul: there is no system admin printing menu item
[02:09] <Concord_Dawn> There is no way to physically run 2 OSes at the same time without a VM.
[02:09] <theine> Mysta_: Does /dev/scd0 exist?
[02:10] <Mysta_> Concord_Dawn: ls dev/cdrom returns dev/cdrom
[02:10] <Mysta_> theine: let me check
[02:10] <Concord_Dawn> theine: Thanks. I forgot what it was called.
[02:10] <Coffeecup>  Is there a way to kill a gnome window that refuses to close?
[02:10] <theine> Mysta_: what does "ls -l /dev/cdrom" give?
[02:11] <Andronicus_> what sources.list should I use when upgrading to Dapper?
[02:11] <apokryphos> Andronicus: faq
[02:11] <Concord_Dawn> !tell Andronicus about dapper
[02:11] <Andronicus> apokryphos: what?
[02:11] <ProN00b> i need a simple paint program, like mspaint is on windows
[02:11] <apokryphos> Coffeecup: xkill in terminal
[02:11] <apokryphos> Andronicus: read the FAQ :)
[02:11] <Concord_Dawn> !tell Andronicus about update
[02:11] <ProN00b> (maybe with slight vector abilitys)
[02:11] <Mysta_> theine:   lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-06-10 19:52 /dev/cdrom -> hda
[02:11] <Andronicus> apokryphos: no need to swear :P
[02:11] <Coffeecup> apokryphos Thanks.
[02:12] <Fizzeh> Does anyone here know about the program "synergy"?
[02:12] <Sivik> anyone here use enlightenment?
[02:12] <Concord_Dawn> Sivik: I've looked at it, what do you need?
[02:12] <Mysta_> theine: and scd0 does not exist
[02:12] <mky375> Fizzeh did you mean Cenergy?
[02:12] <Sivik> Concord_Dawn, i am trying to figure out how to make a submenu in the e17menuedit
[02:12] <Mysta_> theine and Concord_Dawn: i was able to install openssh-server via my ubuntu 6.06 server CD
[02:12] <Concord_Dawn> Andronicus: Check the FAQ. There's a page that shows you how to upgrade to Dapper without editing anything.
[02:12] <swim> hey folks is there howto for e17 dapper?
[02:12] <Concord_Dawn> good stuff.
[02:13] <bennyboy> can someone tell me how to change the name of a partition that shows up in the gnome places menu?
[02:13] <Sivik> Mysta_, what is your problem?
[02:13] <theine> Mysta_: try "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt"
[02:13] <Andronicus> Concord_Dawn: ok ok
[02:13] <Andronicus> thanls
[02:13] <Fizzeh> no, synergy, its a program that allows you to use one mouse / keyboard with mulriple computer (mky375)
[02:13] <Mysta_> Sivik: I cannot read from a CDROM in my cd drive
[02:13] <Coffeecup> ProN00b: would TheGimp work for you?
[02:13] <Mysta_> theine: i will try that now
[02:13] <Fizzeh> or, just in general, how do I install a .rpm
[02:13] <Andronicus> Concord_Dawn: I just loaded Upgrade Manager and clicked on UPGRADE button
[02:13] <Fizzeh> or how do I compile source
[02:13] <Sivik> Mysta_, did you mount it?
[02:13] <ompaul> threeseas, is that the first user created on that machine?
[02:13] <harry> does running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will able to upgrade to ubuntu dapper drake 6.06???
[02:13] <bennyboy> i have 2 partitions  one is /media/music and the other is /media/movies and under the gnome places menu the music partition shows up just as music while the movies partition shows up as /media/movies
[02:13] <Mysta_> Sivik: im not sure
[02:14] <Sivik> harry: yes
[02:14] <apokryphos> harry: you need to tinker a couple of things first
[02:14] <ompaul> !upgrade
[02:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[02:14] <swim> hey folks is there howto for e17 dapper?
[02:14] <ProN00b> Coffeecup, no, thats more like photoshop, i need something simple (i wasted arround 3 minutes trying to figure out how to draw a box in gimp, and i didn't find it)
[02:14] <Sivik> harry: as long as your change all the places it says breezy to dapper in the source.list file
[02:14] <kallei> what dir should the  /lib/modules/'uname -r'/build   point to?
[02:14] <Andronicus> what does LTS mean?
[02:14] <ompaul> long term support
[02:14] <something_else> people, Im trying to understand something regarding active directories. Is there a way to manage windows profiles in linux?
[02:14] <cafuego> andronicusL Little Tiny Sausages
[02:14] <ajnewbold> what should I apt-get to obtain 'ncurses' ?
[02:14] <Mysta_> theine: "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt" returned "mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only"
[02:14] <bennyboy> long term support i think
[02:14] <Andronicus> what does 6.06 LTS mean?
[02:14] <theine> Mysta_: That's fine, now do "ls /mnt"
[02:14] <Tano> Hi everyone
[02:15] <Andronicus> ompaul: ok
[02:15] <swim> anyone?
[02:15] <Sivik> Andronicus, long term support
[02:15] <ompaul> Anderson,  ...  long term support
[02:15] <harry> Sivik: yeah i did that. i copied somewhat like that i pasted on the sources.list. then i run the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[02:15] <krazykit> Andronicus: long term support
[02:15] <Andronicus> bennyboy: ok
[02:15] <ProN00b> so, does anyone know a simple drawing program ? (like mspaint on windows)
[02:15] <apokryphos> ProN00b: kolourpaint
[02:15] <Sivik> harry: then you should be right, what does your man /proc/version say the kernel version is
[02:15] <ompaul> ProN00b, xpaint
[02:15] <Tano> I just installed ubuntu 6.06 but I can't change the resolution
[02:15] <Mysta_> theine: wow i see the contents, can you give me quick run down of what just went on?
[02:15] <IcemanV9> xpaint?
[02:15] <apokryphos> Tano: FAQ
[02:15] <swim> hrmm
[02:15] <Tano> it's stuck to 640x480 @ 60 hz
[02:15] <Sivik> Tano: then you haven't installed the correct video drivers yet
[02:15] <theine> Mysta_: You mounted the CD
[02:15] <ompaul> !resolution
[02:15] <ProN00b> apokryphos, is that kde ?
[02:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:15] <Andronicus> im using a modem, so how can I upgrade to 6.06 1 file at a time??
[02:15] <Andronicus> ompaul: im using a modem, so how can I upgrade to 6.06 1 file at a time??
[02:15] <Tano> no
[02:15] <theine> Mysta_: This should really happen automatically I guess
[02:16] <IcemanV9> OR gpaint
[02:16] <apokryphos> ProN00b: a KDE application, yes. It of course runs perfectly in GNOME.
[02:16] <Tano> I installed on HD
[02:16] <harry> Sivik: 2.6.12-9-386: am i right.
[02:16] <apokryphos> Tano: read the FAQ
[02:16] <Tano> and everythig works gret
[02:16] <bennyboy> maybe try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:16] <Tano> great
[02:16] <Sivik> harry: not right, thats the brezzy
[02:16] <harry> SivikL i checked it on the uname -r
[02:16] <Mysta_> theine: Is there a file should check to make sure it happens this way in the future?
[02:16] <theine> Mysta_: In order to be able to access data CD's, they have to be mounted
[02:16] <ProN00b> apokryphos, ya, ryte i am going to install 150 megs of kde libs
[02:16] <cafuego> Seveas: You're doing well, webalizer reckons the mirror is moving ~ 50GB per month.
[02:16] <bennyboy> tano: maybe try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:16] <Andronicus> Concord_Dawn: im using a modem, so how can I upgrade to 6.06 1 file at a time??
[02:16] <jadenguy> Hello help channel.
[02:16] <theine> Mysta_: perhaps /etc/fstab
[02:16] <Sivik> harry: run "man /proc/version"
[02:16] <ompaul> Andronicus, get the CD it will save you far too much pain, the other thing would take days (its hundreds of megs of download)
[02:16] <Sivik> and then tell me the output
[02:16] <Mysta_> theine: ok
[02:16] <jadenguy> I'm interested in a little help here.  Could anybody be of assistance right now?
[02:16] <harry> Sivik:so i'm still on the breezy? right now i'm running the package manager.
[02:16] <Andronicus> ompaul: really?
[02:16] <apokryphos> ProN00b: kdelibs is nothing like that. Are you low on space?
[02:16] <Sivik> and pastbin your sources.list file
[02:17] <theine> Mysta_: Does that file contain a line that starts with "/dev/hda"?
[02:17] <apokryphos> !info kdelibs dapper
[02:17] <Alethes> I've downloaded all of gnome with a modem
[02:17] <Sivik> harry: thats cool
[02:17] <ubotu> kdelibs: (core libraries from the official KDE release), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18 (dapper), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 88 kB
[02:17] <Tobberoth> I want my monitor to be set to 60hz. I went to System->Preferences->Screen resolution, but it won't let me change hz to anything but 75hz
[02:17] <Alethes> it takes about 2 days
[02:17] <gorski> totem want play (This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available.)
[02:17] <apokryphos> well, not that
[02:17] <Andronicus> ompaul: I can upgrade ysing the CD?
[02:17] <Tano> any suggestions?
[02:17] <Sivik> harry: pastebin your sources.list and then give the url and i can check it
[02:17] <Tano> in private chat?
[02:17] <Sivik> Tano: what kind of card
[02:17] <ompaul> Andronicus, u can start it
[02:17] <Andronicus> ompaul: upgrade manager startred, how can I stop it?
[02:17] <Tano> ati radeon 9600 128 MB ram
[02:17] <ompaul> click on close
[02:17] <Sivik> !tell Tano about ati
[02:17] <apokryphos> Tano: why is it so hard to read the FAQ? It provides the exact instructions.
[02:17] <swim> hey folks is there howto for e17 dapper? anyone at all?
[02:18] <jadenguy> Anybody know how to install 6.06 using the livecd and not changing your time to UTC, if i use windows with ubuntu?
[02:18] <ProN00b> apokryphos, that doesn't calculate the deps, does it
[02:18] <Mysta_> theine: /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:18] <Sivik> swim: use the cvs
[02:18] <bennyboy> Tano: maybe try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:18] <harry> whats the site for paste bin. and the command again to see my sources.list from the terminal
[02:18] <theine> Mysta_: That looks very fine
[02:18] <Andronicus> ompaul: upgrade manager has started, how can I stop it?  there is no close or end button
[02:18] <ompaul> Andronicus, do you pay for bandwith used? or connection time
[02:18] <ProN00b> apokryphos, Need to get 17.6MB of archives.
[02:18] <ProN00b> After unpacking 61.0MB of additional disk space will be used.
[02:18] <kallei> i get the following error E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.16-ck12-custom    what in gods name should i do to get this right?
[02:18] <theine> Mysta_: Are you using KDE or Gnome?
[02:18] <Sivik> harry: www.pastebin.com and the /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:18] <harry> Sivik: Linux  version  2.6.129386  (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 3.4.5
[02:18] <harry> 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu  3.4.46ubuntu8))  #1  Mon  Oct  10
[02:18] <harry> 13:14:36 BST 2005
[02:18] <apokryphos> ProN00b: can't spare the space?
[02:18] <Tano> wow
[02:18] <Mysta_> theine: NO GDM
[02:18] <Andronicus> ompaul: upgrade manager has started, how can I stop it?  there is no close or end button
[02:18] <theine> Mysta_: ?
[02:18] <Tano> I'm really new with linux
[02:18] <Tobberoth> Anyone who can help me? My monitor dies all the time!
[02:18] <ompaul> Andronicus, are you going to ask my last question
[02:19] <Mysta_> theine: neither, i dont have any GUI installed. I plan on installin xfce
[02:19] <theine> Mysta_: What do you mean?
[02:19] <jadenguy> kubuntu's installer let you install in a windows mode, and wouldn't change your time setting.
[02:19] <theine> Mysta_: Aha! That's why
[02:19] <Andronicus> Tobberoth: get a new monitor you cheapskate
[02:19] <Sivik> Tobberoth: maybe try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:19] <theine> Mysta_: If you're not using any desktop environment, you have to mount the CD manually
[02:19] <Alethes> man, it's weird seeing all these problems people have with Ubuntu.  I just installed from the live cd and it just worked -- everything
[02:19] <Tobberoth> Sivik: I'd rather not, too many options I don't know much about.
[02:19] <Mysta_> theine: man this is awesome, im learning.... so nothing gets mounted when there is no GUI
[02:19] <ompaul> Andronicus, you could do this, open a terminal, type xkill and click on that window
[02:19] <Tobberoth> I think the problem is it's set to 75hz, it only supports 60.
[02:19] <Mysta_> theine ok ok ok
[02:19] <Andronicus> ompaul: using diual up only! infinate bandwith
[02:19] <Tobberoth> But it won't let me change the value
[02:19] <bullrage> You guys read about Mark Shuttleworth and his VISA fiasco?
[02:19] <Sivik> Tobberoth: then use the drivers for your video card to do it
[02:19] <Andronicus> ompaul: why?
[02:20] <Tobberoth> Sivik: Howd?
[02:20] <detectiveinspekt> I updated ubuntu 5.10 and restarted now the gui fails to open now
[02:20] <Sivik> harry: are you doing both of those?
[02:20] <harry> Sivik: i need the exact command for the sources.list. my permission was denied
[02:20] <Sivik> Tobberoth: what kind of video card
[02:20] <apokryphos> bullrage: no, tell us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:20] <theine> Mysta_: To unmount you do either "sudo umount /mnt" or "sudo umount /dev/cdrom"
[02:20] <Tobberoth> Sivik: It's a Nvidia 7800GS
[02:20] <linux_user400354> does vino server work in xfce or can it only work in gnome?
[02:20] <harry> Sivik: what those???
[02:20] <Sivik> harry: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:20] <Sivik> harry: run "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:21] <Sivik> harry: without the "
[02:21] <Andronicus> ompaul: I killed it with xkill!  seeing it started to upgrade, has it damaged my boot now?
[02:21] <ompaul> Andronicus, your going to give all your time to downloading for the next few days - a CD should be easy enough to get to, then you change the sources file back, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change the word dapper back to breezy
[02:21] <Andronicus> ompaul:  it says there are 560 updates :P LOL
[02:21] <theine> Mysta_: Also, you can mount the CD in any (empty) directory you want. Just replace /mnt with the desired directory
[02:21] <Sivik> Toberroth: install the nvidia drivers
[02:21] <harry> Sivik: vi command not found
[02:21] <Tobberoth> Sivik: I have them installed
[02:21] <bennyboy> detectiveinspekt, what error message are you getting
[02:21] <Sivik> Tobberoth: then i have no clue
[02:21] <theine> Mysta_: A good place to mount the CD is /media/cdrom0
[02:22] <Sivik> harry: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:22] <aquarius> The Ubuntu docs at http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/installing-from-cd.html say I can pick "Install to the hard disk" or "Install a LAMP server", but I don't get those options when booting a newly downloaded Dapper CD; just "Start or Install Ubuntu".
[02:22] <Mysta_> theine: i have it mounted to /mnt right now right?
[02:22] <Tobberoth> Sivik: Actually, it's when I installed them I got the problem in the first place.
[02:22] <ompaul> Andronicus, it needs to download that list of updates, and get them all - so you can do what I suggested and >>sudo alt-get update<< so you sync the package names with breezy and get a CD
[02:22] <Tobberoth> I think they set my monitor to this range or something.
[02:22] <bennyboy> Tobberoth, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:22] <Sivik> bennyboy, he said he didn't want to do it that way
[02:22] <Andronicus> ompaul: too complicated for me to understand
[02:22] <Tobberoth> bennyboy: Last time I did that, it messed up x
[02:22] <Sivik> bennyboy, he said it was too hard
[02:23] <theine> Mysta_: Actually, since the mount point is defined in /etc/fstab, you can just do "sudo mount /dev/hda" which will mount your CD under /media/cdrom
[02:23] <Sivik> harry: did that work?
[02:23] <ninjaplimsoles> hey, just a quickie: how do i sleep an app from terminal?
[02:23] <ompaul> Andronicus, do you know what a terminal is, if so start one and tell me when it is started
[02:23] <detectiveinspekt> bennyboy, "Failed to initilize core devices", it flashes a couple of times too
[02:23] <harry> Sivik: wait
[02:23] <ninjaplimsoles> i forgot the key shortcut
[02:23] <Andronicus> ompaul: ill download 20 items per day! and in 30 days its complete
[02:23] <Sivik> harry: ok
[02:23] <Andronicus> ompaul: its started
[02:23] <detectiveinspekt> should I try install ati drivers for my card?
[02:23] <theine> Mysta_: yes, right now it's mounted under /mnt
[02:23] <Andronicus> ompaul: its started a shell, now?
[02:23] <ompaul> Andronicus, enjoy it
[02:23] <Andronicus> ompaul: now what?
[02:23] <bennyboy> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[02:24] <Mysta_> theine i just tried to run sudo umount /mnt and it said the device is busy? im not doing anythign w/ it
[02:24] <ninjaplimsoles> anyone?
[02:24] <Andronicus> ompaul: I cant do itmes at a time, it says it need to remove some items
[02:24] <ompaul> Andronicus, you can do what I suggested, or do the update, as it appears that you have choosen to do the updates my services are no longer needed
[02:24] <Mysta_> i just want to unmount and remount to cdrom0, so i know what im doin
[02:24] <harry> Sivik: give me another location for paste bin
[02:24] <Andronicus> ompaul: I did that BEFORE WE SPOKE
[02:24] <theine> Mysta_: you're probably still in /mnt, right?
[02:24] <Andronicus> ompaul: now whats youre solution?
[02:24] <harry> Sivik: the url u gave me doesnt work
[02:24] <Andronicus> ompaul:  im waiting in the shell
[02:24] <theine> Mysta_: you have to leave that directory before you can unmount
[02:24] <Mysta_> theine: lol, yes.. man embarassin'
[02:25] <Sivik> !pastebin
[02:25] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[02:25] <Sivik> harry: try that one
[02:25] <harry> ok
[02:25] <ompaul> Andronicus, - you started, you are choosing to finish, so work away, you don't need me
[02:25] <Andronicus_> ompaul: you are a self-righteous, rude and never listen idiot
[02:26] <Sivik> harry: did that one work
[02:26] <ompaul> Andronicus, wrong on at least 3 counts
[02:26] <Fizzeh> can anybody help me with compiling this binary (or whatever it is  I am doing)   it is telling me to type make and then make install
[02:26] <harry> Sivik: i think i'm already using the dapper drake but its still not complete
[02:26] <ninjaplimsoles> anyone know the shortcut to sleep a program from terminal?
[02:26] <Fizzeh> but terminal doesnt know make
[02:26] <Andronicus> ompaul: why do you always abuse certain people?
[02:26] <Andronicus> ompaul: you made him leave :(
[02:26] <Sivik> harry: there is no way, cause its kernel would be at least 2.6.15-
[02:26] <harry> Sivik: ive just noticed now that my desktop background just changed like the one i see on the dapper
[02:26] <Sivik> not 2.6.8 or whatever it is now
[02:26] <Sivik> harry: just give me the sources.list in pastebin
[02:26] <bennyboy> Fizzeh, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:26] <theine> Fizzeh: you need to install build-essentials: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:26] <Sivik> try pastebin.ca
[02:27] <apokryphos> Andronicus: please stop being annoying
[02:27] <theine> Fizzeh: sorry, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[02:27] <harry> ok
[02:27] <harry> Sivik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15501
[02:27] <solucao> oi
[02:27] <Juan314> does anybody speak in spanish?
[02:27] <apokryphos> Andronicus: and please remember to follow the Code of Conduct in any Ubuntu-related channels. See /msg ubotu coc
[02:27] <apokryphos> !es
[02:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:27] <Andronicus> apokryphos: ok ill try :)
[02:27] <Juan314> ok thanks
[02:28] <SurfnKid> whats the command in VI   to save?
[02:28] <SurfnKid> :save   ?
[02:28] <theine> SurfnKid: :w
[02:28] <bennyboy> :w
[02:28] <SurfnKid> write!
[02:28] <SurfnKid> thx
[02:28] <Sivik> harry: then run apt-get update
[02:28] <mky375> :s @SurfinKid
[02:28] <Sivik> "sudo apt-get update"
[02:28] <SurfnKid> :@ yes
[02:28] <SurfnKid> hehe
[02:28] <Fizzeh> thatns bennyboy and theine
[02:28] <mky375> :s @SurfinKid..... errrr :w
[02:28] <SurfnKid> lol
[02:28] <harry> Sivik: is the sources.list right????
[02:29] <disinterested_pe> how do i get a python 2.3-4suite error to leave ?
[02:29] <Sivik> harry: it looks like it
[02:29] <ninjaplimsoles> Anyone know the shortcut to sleep a program in terminal?
[02:29] <AK7> is there a terminal command to stop and/or stop& restart X?
[02:29] <harry> Sivik: i've run the apt-get update yesterday. i just continued it today
[02:29] <theine> ninjaplimsoles: ^z
[02:29] <ninjaplimsoles> Shift+Z?
[02:29] <theine> ninjaplimsoles: i.e. ctrl-z
[02:29] <john___> ^z
[02:29] <Fizzeh> what is the XTest library and how do I get it?
[02:29] <detectiveinspekt> thanks bennyboy
[02:29] <Sivik> paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:29] <ninjaplimsoles> lol im seeind loads of ^Z's :P
[02:29] <ninjaplimsoles> thanks folks
[02:30] <Sivik> you may not be loading the right kernel when you start
[02:30] <harry> Sivik: now i'm still running the dist-upgrade. while it's going, i'm noticing changes of my icons on the menu and new programs and the desktop
[02:30] <aquarius> How do I find out how much memory is in a machine with Ubuntu?
[02:30] <Sivik> harry: ok
[02:30] <Sivik> harry: then it may be working now
[02:30] <harry> Sivik: so am i right for what am i doin???
[02:30] <Sivik> harry: yes
[02:30] <mky375> @ aquarius "free" in the console with out the quotes
[02:30] <detectiveinspekt> is the terminal still supposed to say "Breezy Badger" after the upgrate from 5.10?
[02:31] <SurfnKid> grr why is Synaptic always doing this
[02:31] <harry> Sivik: are you familiar with PSP
[02:31] <theine> detectiveinspekt: no
[02:31] <Sivik> harry: like the handheld?
[02:31] <harry> Sivik: Sivik: yeah
[02:31] <Sivik> harry: no
[02:31] <Sivik> harry: i have friends that have one, but i have never played with one much
[02:31] <disinterested_pe> whoopie
[02:32] <cafuego> Hmm, joyful.
[02:32] <harry> Sivik: i was thinking how they are able to use it as a universal remote control
[02:33] <Sivik> harry: i wouldn't know, try googling it
[02:33] <threeseas> what is the root user name for ubuntu? its not root
[02:33] <theine> !root
[02:33] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:33] <Tobberoth> threeseas, it's the username you put when you installed it
[02:33] <sivanicon> what package do i need to enable the 'make' cmd?
[02:33] <ompaul> threeseas, read the page ubotu points to there
[02:33] <harry> Sivik: can u giv me an url for nvidia drivers???
[02:33] <theine> Tobberoth: That's not exactly root though
[02:34] <Tobberoth> theine: True
[02:34] <Sivik> !nvidia
[02:34] <ubotu> nvidia is probably Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:34] <SixtyWatt> what does ubuntu use to edit the screen resolutions?
[02:34] <Sivik> harry: what kind of card
[02:34] <SixtyWatt> xf86config?
[02:34] <Sivik> harry: you can use the apt-get to do it
[02:34] <Ron_o> I'm guessing by now that root is bad because of malicious code (virus, etc) and the general screw-up of the newbie...
[02:34] <Gecko> Can anyone tell me how to extract one single file from a tarball?
[02:34] <unkn0wn2u> SixtyWatt, xvidtune
[02:34] <Sivik> harry: "apt-cache search nvidia"
[02:35] <bennyboy> can someone tell me how to change the name of a partition that shows up in the gnome places menu?
[02:35] <threeseas> ubotu where are you?
[02:35] <neoncode> How on earth do I get ubuntu to hide the cursor when i'm typeing. It's the most annoying thing when i'm typeing on my laptop when my hand brushes past my touchpad and it sets my typeing possion half way though a word...
[02:35] <ubotu> threeseas: what are you talking about?
[02:35] <Mysta_> theine: ok, im unmounted and remounted to another directory, thanks for you help
[02:35] <apokryphos> !test
[02:35] <ubotu> Crashed.
[02:35] <feg> !nautilis
[02:35] <ubotu> feg: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:35] <feg> !nautilus
[02:35] <ubotu> feg: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:35] <Mysta_> theine: if i have other partitions those probably dont get mounted either
[02:35] <theine> Mysta_: You're welcome, have fun with Xubuntu
[02:35] <green_earz> AK7:   have a look in /etc/init.d   for xorg-common i thick it is ? and to retart a sevice in /etc/init.d  the commad is  sudo invoke-rc.d service-name restart
[02:35] <threeseas> ubotu: password
[02:35] <ubotu> it has been said that password is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords
[02:35] <AK7> thx, green
[02:36] <green_earz> np
[02:36] <gnomefreak> feg: please dont play with the bot
[02:36] <theine> Mysta_: No, probably not
[02:36] <Sivik> !tell harry about nvidia
[02:36] <SixtyWatt> xvidtune provided no results.
[02:37] <threeseas> cups add printer doesn't know what my username and password are
[02:37] <AK7> threeseas: using the web interface?
[02:37] <SixtyWatt> Is there another method?
[02:37] <Mysta_> theine: so if i want to view these other partitions i have to find out which one is which by looking in /dev and then mounting it as you've taught me?
[02:37] <AK7> the web interface requires a root acount :/
[02:37] <Sivik> !xvidtune
[02:37] <ubotu> Sivik: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:38] <AK7> if you have gnome-cups-manager installed, that works (start from terminal)
[02:38] <threeseas> yeah cause there ain't mo system admin printer in the menu  of draper drake on my system
[02:38] <feg> gnomefreak, i didn't want to play. just to see if ubotu has link about nautilus conf :-) sorry, btw
[02:38] <theine> threeseas: Did you give it the same user name and password you use when you login to Ubuntu?
[02:38] <threeseas> yes
[02:38] <Sivik> SixtyWatt, try nvtv via sudo apt-get install nvtv
[02:38] <gnomefreak> feg: ~/.naultlis
[02:38] <theine> Mysta_: Exactly
[02:38] <gnomefreak> is wher ethe config ifile is
[02:38] <AK7> for some reason the web interface only recognizes a root acount as superuser
[02:39] <AK7> but gnome-cups-manager doesn't... no idea why...
[02:39] <SixtyWatt> Sivik, this will allow me to change my resolution?
[02:39] <Ron_o> if people are insterested in real random passwords then check out Diceware on the net.
[02:39] <Mysta_> theine: thx for all the help, much appreciate. have a great day, bye
[02:39] <Sivik> SixtyWatt, whats the problem again
[02:39] <theine> Mysta_: Check out "ls /dev/hd*", that will probably show you all the partitions on your hard disk
[02:39] <Ron_o> I'm not against APG or any other password program.... but true randomness is hard to come by.
[02:39] <feg> gnomefreak, yep. but dunno how i can modify window geometry using no_ubuntu_spatial
[02:40] <Sivik> SixtyWatt, are you just trying to change the resolution
[02:40] <SixtyWatt> I simply want my screen resolution to be 1280x800 instead of 1024x768
[02:40] <SixtyWatt> Yes
[02:40] <Sivik> SixtyWatt: what kind of video card?
[02:40] <xgodsoul> Hum, may I ask two questions?
[02:40] <Sivik> xgodsoul, yes, ask them
[02:40] <AK7> only one left, xgod :)
[02:40] <Sivik> xgodsoul, don't ask to ask questions
[02:40] <SixtyWatt> Sivik, one moment. I will check.
[02:40] <xgodsoul> How can I resize a partition (lower the size of if)
[02:40] <boricua> !gparted
[02:40] <ubotu> [gparted]  hmm... gparted is a partition editor. As always when manipulating partitions, backup your important data. When resizing NTFS partitions PLEASE defrag first to avoid potential data loss. Gparted is included on the desktop verson of ubuntu.
[02:40] <xgodsoul> i've tried Partition Magic under windows
[02:41] <Sivik> xgodsoul, try gparted
[02:41] <Ron_o> Gparted is as good or better than PM..
[02:41] <xgodsoul> but it shows me an error because of a linux partition he can't select, and when on MS-DOS it does another error...
[02:41] <Ron_o> and it's *free*..
[02:41] <ompaul> I have been marked as not a ubuntereno ... why I was marked as one
[02:41] <xgodsoul> GParted doesn't permit me to lower the size of a partition, no?
[02:41] <ninjaplimsoles> anyone here who can help with Compiz/XGL?
[02:41] <Sivik> xgodsoul, try qparted
[02:42] <Sir_Brizz> is there an access log for ssh connections?
[02:42] <xgodsoul> sivik, i've tried
[02:42] <Sivik> Sir_Brizz, it should be the /home/name/.ssh folder
[02:42] <Ron_o> xgodsoul, it does.
[02:42] <Sir_Brizz> ah cool thanks
[02:42] <Sivik> xgodsoul: then your screwed
[02:42] <xgodsoul> oh yeah?
[02:42] <xgodsoul> but the thing is
[02:42] <xgodsoul> I absolutely must lower the first partition because I must free the space of my my first cylinders
[02:42] <Tano> the only thing is that my videocard is not from ATI is from Gigabyte
[02:42] <xgodsoul> because I must put my bios on it
[02:43] <Tano> could that be my problem?
[02:43] <bennyboy> nope
[02:43] <bennyboy> it uses the ati chipset
[02:43] <Sivik> Tano: nopw
[02:43] <xgodsoul> i have a strange laptop that need to have the bios on the firtst cylinders of my HDD
[02:43] <Tano> ok
[02:43] <threeseas> adding gnome-cups manager vis snaptic
[02:43] <Tano> thanks
[02:43] <AK7> xgodsoul: what goes wrong in qtparted?
[02:43] <AK7> oh, nm
[02:43] <bennyboy> has anyone had any success with dvd::rip
[02:43] <xgodsoul> well.. i can't reduce the size of a partition, no?
[02:44] <AK7> is this from a liveCD?
[02:44] <xgodsoul> nop... I boot from ubuntu in my HDD
[02:44] <xgodsoul> breezy badger
[02:44] <samuli> Tano, linux doesn't recognize drivers by their manufacturers, but by chips on the board.
[02:44] <AK7> generally you have to unmount before resizing, which is an issue if you're running the program from the partition that needs resizing... is that the case?
[02:44] <Tano> ok
[02:44] <Tano> guys
[02:45] <Tano> now it works
[02:45] <xgodsoul> hum.... nope... but it's in NTFS... so I wonder
[02:45] <Tano> Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:45] <xgodsoul> resizing of ntfs partitions... in gparted?
[02:45] <Tano> the only thing is I can't go more than 60 hz
[02:45] <Sivik> Tano: you card probably can't support anything above that
[02:45] <AK7> xgod: I don't think the breezy liveCD had it... at least it didn't work for me
[02:45] <AK7> maybe it gets updated upon install
[02:45] <Tano> it can
[02:45] <lufis> Has anyone else noticed that Totem video playback is way too bright? The video is rendered differently from the original
[02:45] <ompaul> !enter
[02:45] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[02:45] <Tano> in windows
[02:46] <Sivik> lufis: i don't use totem
[02:46] <Sivik> lufis: use mplayer or vlc
[02:46] <xgodsoul> i mean... I need the things on this partitions... I would use Partition magic because the modificatios are damageless for data...
[02:46] <boricua> lufis:i saw that todsay
[02:46] <Tano> anyway
[02:46] <lufis> Sivik: mplayer? Seriously?
[02:46] <samuli> Tano, either sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, or manually edit vertical and horizontal ranges for your monitor in xorg.conf
[02:46] <AK7> but the dapper live/install cD should work with ntfs resizing, have you tried that?
[02:46] <Tano> i'm happy for now
[02:46] <Sivik> lufis: or vlc
[02:46] <Tano> ok
[02:46] <Dubuntu> I prefer not to use Ubuntu.
[02:46] <Tano> i'll try that
[02:46] <Tano> thanks
[02:46] <lufis> Sivik: I have VLC installed, but I was asking because I wanted to ascertain whether it was something on my system or was a default thing
[02:46] <harry> Sivik: is this the version of dapper drake already?? 2.6.15-23-386
[02:46] <xgodsoul> hum... i've installed the NTFS write/read package and stufff
[02:47] <Sivik> harry: yes
[02:47] <Sivik> harry: thats what i have
[02:47] <xgodsoul> is that okay or I must have a gparted version that supports ntfs that is only on the dapper CD?
[02:47] <gavagai> this is probably an obscure and minor thing, but...  gnu screen seems to behave in a peculiar way (to me) in ubuntu.  when i open a new window, it puts me in the same directory from which i opened the window, instead of ~.  anyone familiar with this?
[02:47] <harry> Sivik: do i still have to change the sources.list????
[02:47] <Dubuntu> I can do everything I wish with Debian.
[02:47] <Sivik> harry: no, its fine
[02:47] <krazykit> Dubuntu: debian's irc is at #debian
[02:47] <AK7> i honestly don't know :/
[02:47] <gavagai> actually i can't quite figure out how it is determining what directory to put me in, but it isn't ~ !
[02:47] <Dubuntu> krazykit: Thanks.
[02:48] <harry> Sivik: i mean to change the sources.list to download some applications. because when using the breezy i'm having a hard time???
[02:48] <Dubuntu> Bye.
[02:48] <xgodsoul> but anyway.. i'm trying to install the front end of my bios on the firsts cylinders of my HDD because..... my laptop heat...
[02:48] <chuck8> nice Quine reference
[02:48] <gavagai> chuck8, :)
[02:48] <Sir_Brizz> what is the console command to get a list of all my installed packages?
[02:48] <lufis> Can someone explain to me what gstreamer is and how it compares to ALSA or OSS?
[02:48] <xgodsoul> i've desactivated acpi, APM, used no-hlt...
[02:48] <chuck8> :D
[02:48] <mky375> Dubuntu Deb is great for servers but I still prefer Ubuntu for workstations
[02:48] <Sivik> harry: you don't need breezy anymore
[02:48] <xgodsoul> now it doesn't crash anymore but... it's still a lot hotter than winxp :S
[02:49] <Sivik> xgodsoul, the best way to run windows, if you have to, is inside linux
[02:49] <krazykit> lufis: gstreamer plays certain files.  alsa/oss are what communicate with the card
[02:49] <Sivik> harry: it should be find
[02:49] <penguinwhoflew> anyone know why amarok would skip under moderate CPU load, like opening firefox? I have a p4 3.0ghz
[02:49] <xgodsoul> sivik, I dual boot windows and linux with grub... i can load either one
[02:49] <lufis> krazykit: ah, so gstreamer is the codecs?
[02:49] <krazykit> lufis: more or less, yeah
[02:49] <xgodsoul> sivik, but I would prefer using ubuntu.... but my laptops get hot :S
[02:49] <harry> Sivik: is it normal that i dont hear anyome the drum sound everytime i click an folder or application???
[02:49] <Sivik> xgodsoul, but its more stable to run winblows inside linux via a VM
[02:50] <lufis> krazykit: Thanks, it's been bothering me that i couldn't figure it out :)
[02:50] <Sivik> harry: i don't know
[02:50] <xgodsoul> yep but won't the linux kernel manage my fan? instead of the windows one?
[02:50] <Sivik> harry: i'm not in gnome or kde
[02:50] <xgodsoul> if I run it in a VM?
[02:50] <AK7> xgod: kinda off topic, but think about xubuntu :) much lighter, easier on comps
[02:50] <Sivik> xgodsoul, yes
[02:50] <xgodsoul> I have xubuntu :D
[02:50] <xgodsoul> hehe
[02:50] <Sivik> xgodsoul: VM is a virtual machine
[02:50] <Sivik> xgodsoul: vmware server is a good one
[02:50] <xgodsoul> XCFE frontend for ubuntu
[02:50] <Sivik> xgodsoul: look into it
[02:50] <xgodsoul> yep yep :) and java uses it to run :)
[02:51] <Sivik> harry: i'm in enlightenment
[02:51] <harry> Sivik: so using dapperdrake. i dont need to download some codecs or multimedia format like the one i did in breezy???
[02:51] <xgodsoul> but my problem isn't really because I want windows
[02:51] <Sir_Brizz> what is the console command to get a list of all my installed packages?
[02:51] <xgodsoul> i don't want windows to run
[02:51] <Sivik> harry: just install vlc, it already has most of the codecs in it
[02:51] <AK7> wait... do you have dapper xubuntu?
[02:51] <penguinwhoflew> ok different question then, how do i increase the size of my ALSA sound buffer
[02:51] <lufis> One more q... for those of you who are Linux gurus, how long did it take you to learn the basics? I've been reading a lot of man pages/books and I want to know how long before I can do stuff on my own
[02:51] <gorski> no engine loaded, cannot start playback problem
[02:52] <Sivik> lufis: i learned more from playing around in linux then reading a book
[02:52] <harry> Sivik: which is better. mplayer or VLC???
[02:52] <xgodsoul> but, the linux kernel doesn't recognise my old hardware and... while loading I get this Error loading Fan and Error loading Thermal...
[02:52] <lufis> Sivik: Well, true. But I want to familiarize myself with the concepts as well
[02:52] <Sivik> they are both nice, but VLC already has the codecs and mplayer you can install the codecs via apt-get
[02:52] <Sivik> lufis: it took me less than a month to get comfortable in linux
[02:53] <AK7> when did you switch, lufis?
[02:53] <Sivik> lufis: the concerts are pretty much the same between any os
[02:53] <lufis> AK7, I've been using Ubuntu for almost a month now :)
[02:53] <xavice> Hello!
[02:53] <gavagai> lufis, a few weeks.  but i had been a user (not admin) on unix already.
[02:54] <chuck8> i think i need a book to learn ubuntu
[02:54] <gavagai> the book that helped me more than anything wasn't a linux book, it was 'unix unleashed'
[02:54] <gavagai> that's an excellent book
[02:54] <Sivik> lufis: i learned in about a month, just work in it, its the best way to learn something
[02:54] <AK7> cool... I switched in april. Best choice ever :)
[02:54] <gorski> how to correct the logout problem(system hangs)?
[02:54] <lufis> Sivik: Ok, thanks
[02:54] <Kyral> kill -9?
[02:54] <Sivik> lufis, same holds true with a language, living in a location that speaks the language, is the best way to learn that lang
[02:54] <chuck8> unix unleashed = o'reilly  ?
[02:54] <Sivik> lufis, yw
[02:55] <gavagai> i don't remember the published, i had it from the library
[02:55] <xgodsoul> anybody having a way to resolve an error loading fan and thermal while loading ubuntu ?
[02:55] <gavagai> s/published/publisher
[02:55] <Kyral> O'Reilly == ownage
[02:55] <lufis> Sivik: yeah, I know what you mean. Thanks
[02:55] <Sivik> lufis: yw
[02:55] <theine> xgodsoul: I would try disabling ACPI
[02:55] <chuck8> there's a torrent with the o'reilly library
[02:55] <xgodsoul> theine, i've already disabled it :D and i'm currently using no-hlt
[02:55] <darkprophet> whats the equiv of "make-jpkg" now ?
[02:55] <xgodsoul> theine, but my CPU get really hotter than when it was on windows, before...
[02:56] <wykd> I would like to know how to schedule a stream of commands to run at a specified time
[02:56] <theine> xgodsoul: how did you disable it and what's actually no-hlt?
[02:56] <AK7> xgodsoul: I can only reccomend a liveCD with a recent partition program... System Rescue CD has recent qtparted and gparted and is only bout 120 megs
[02:56] <gavagai> wykd, make a script and run it from cron
[02:56] <darkprophet> is it makeg ?
[02:56] <Sir_Brizz> what is the terminal command to get a list of all my installed packages?
[02:56] <xgodsoul> no-hlt isn't a command that you pass to the kernel to let the fan always work? mine is always on since i'm using this parameter
[02:56] <wykd> I am setting up a command list to record and encode video at a specified time, IE a basic PVR system
[02:57] <wykd> how do I use crontab?
[02:57] <agamotto> hallo all
[02:57] <theine> xgodsoul: so you already tried passing noacpi to the kernel?
[02:57] <gavagai> wykd, you just have to google to understand the syntax, it is not that easy to explain.  you edit it with 'crontab -e'
[02:57] <gavagai> it isn't hard, you can find examples and then modify them to your schedule
[02:57] <wykd> gavagai: thanks for you help
[02:57] <xgodsoul> theine, i'm currently passing it :P before i pass this argument, the computer was crashing with critical temperature
[02:57] <gavagai> wykd, you're welcome
[02:58] <xgodsoul> theine, but now its just get hot :) instead of reaaaaly hot :)
[02:58] <xgodsoul> hi there agamotto :)
[02:58] <boricua> what does a star next to a package in synaptic means?
[02:58] <ScislaC> I need to do "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper", but I get a segmentation fault... anyone know how I could accomplish what it does manually?
[02:58] <Flannel> boricua: new in repository
[02:58] <theine> xgodsoul: hmmm, i'm afraid i have no idea what to about it then
[02:58] <Lord_Pall> anyone know how to get grub to boot windows off of a sata raid setup?
[02:58] <boricua> Flannel: txs
[02:58] <edneymatias> hello all!
[02:58] <AK7> boricula: upgradable if installed, or new to repository if not
[02:59] <xgodsoul> theine, thanks for your time :)  i've already searched google, ubuntuforoms...
[02:59] <Lord_Pall> its trying to boot off of the wrong drive :(
[02:59] <Flannel> AK7: upgradable is an arrow
[02:59] <darkprophet> ive got a java.bin and i would like to make it a deb, im following a tutorial but it seems they are using an outdated ubuntu
[02:59] <AK7> oh, whoops
[02:59] <darkprophet> any ideas on the equivilant of make-jpkg now ?
[02:59] <xgodsoul> theine, but at least i don't get to the critical temperature :) hehe
[02:59] <AK7> they're both yellow :P
[02:59] <xgodsoul> i'll try a daper LiveCD :)
[02:59] <xgodsoul> later :P
[02:59] <ninjaplimsoles> can anyone help me with XGL/Compiz please?
[02:59] <AK7> #ubuntu-xgl
[03:00] <Kyral> ninjaplimsoles: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:00] <Lord_Pall> is there a ubuntu-grub channel? :)
[03:00] <ninjaplimsoles> wanna try talking to someone in there? nobody speaks
[03:00] <Lord_Pall> i cant make heads or tails off of info out there. Everyone references grub.conf, which I don't seem to have.
[03:00] <AK7> I'll be over there, but for the record, I can't get it to work :)
[03:01] <ScislaC> Lord_Pall: it'll be in /boot/
[03:01] <harry> Sivik: is it normal for dapper drake to not have the open office after installing it???
[03:01] <Lord_Pall> dont see it
[03:01] <Sivik> harry: yes
[03:01] <Lord_Pall> i've got a grub directory, and a few other misc fiels
[03:01] <Sivik> harry: just install it via sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2
[03:01] <Lord_Pall> but that's it. There's a menu.lst in the /boot/grub dir
[03:01] <Lord_Pall> but no conf file
[03:02] <xgodsoul> lord_Pall, what do you want to achieve with grub?
[03:02] <Sivik> Lord_Pall, "locate grub.conf"
[03:02] <mky375> your not alone Lord_Pall I couldn't find it either....
[03:02] <Lord_Pall> i want to boot into windows on my raid
[03:02] <Lord_Pall> no grub.conf
[03:02] <Lord_Pall> locate didnt find it
[03:02] <linux_user400354> how come import is not in synaptic? i enabled universe and multiverse repositories?
[03:02] <Lord_Pall> i had a bad install of ubuntu. It munged the raid partitions, and installed onto the non-raid drive
[03:03] <harry> Sivik: another ? again for the video drivers. even if i'm using dapperdrake already, i still have to install the nvidia drivers???
[03:03] <Sivik> linux_user400354, what do you mean import?  the program itself?
[03:03] <penguinwhoflew> ok seriously, i've been searching for hours and i still can't find a single way to change the buffer alsa uses
[03:03] <Lord_Pall> after reinstalling windows, I set the non raid drive to boot first and grubb now seems to work, but it can't find the windows drive anymore
[03:03] <Sivik> harry: yes
[03:03] <Lord_Pall> it's trying to boot the windows partition on the non raid drive, which is wrong.
[03:03] <mky375> Lord_Paull I just did a "find / |grep grub.conf" and its not there...
[03:03] <Lord_Pall> i've got dmraid installed, so i can see the raid part
[03:03] <linux_user400354> sivik, yes the program named import
[03:03] <Sivik> harry: i had to
[03:04] <Lord_Pall> mky - so what do i do to configure grub?
[03:04] <penguinwhoflew> is there even a way to change the alsa buffer size?!
[03:04] <RandolphCarter> mky375: it's /boot/grub/menu.lst here (grub.conf)
[03:04] <mky375> not much it just worked....
[03:04] <Sivik> linux_user400354, then use sudo apt-get install import and don't worry about finding it in synaptic
[03:04] <Lord_Pall> crap
[03:04] <ScislaC> Lord_Pall: does menu.lst have it?
[03:04] <Sivik> linux_user400354, synaptic isn't the only way to do it
[03:04] <Lord_Pall> scis - have what? I changed menu.lst, but I'm not totally sure what to change
[03:04] <xgodsoul> lord_pall, is windows in the grub booting list?
[03:04] <becalyn> I need basic help...totally new to ubuntu.
[03:05] <Sivik> becalyn, what are you trying to do?
[03:05] <Lord_Pall> yeah, windows is in the list. It latched onto an old windows setup on that drive
[03:05] <Sivik> Lord_Pall, is it commented out?
[03:05] <penguinwhoflew> so basically, if my audio skips when i open a -webpage- and my hardware can certainly handle it, then i'm just screwed?
[03:05] <becalyn> lol Trying to figure out how to download it!
[03:05] <Lord_Pall> nope. It's not commented out
[03:05] <wykd> lets say I wanted to make crontab run a series of commands, one right after naother, how can I do that in the crontab file?
[03:05] <Sivik> !install
[03:05] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[03:05] <RandolphCarter> linux_user400354: import is part of the 'imagemagick' package
[03:05] <Lord_Pall> I tried changing the menu.lst section to point to hd1, but that didnt help
[03:05] <xgodsoul> becalyn download what?
[03:05] <Sivik> !tell becalyn about install
[03:05] <Sivik> xgodsoul, he is trying to download the os
[03:05] <linux_user400354> sivik, synaptic is a gui front end to apt-get. they both use the same repositories
[03:06] <RandolphCarter> linux_user400354: 'sudo apt-get install imagemagick' to get import.
[03:06] <Lord_Pall> i tried changing device.map to point to the /dev/mapper/nvidia_whatever and that didnt work either
[03:06] <mky375> were is grub installed Lord_Pall?
[03:06] <xgodsoul> sivik, okay :D you seem to be handling that :)
[03:06] <Sivik> linux_user400354, yeah, apt-cache search import
[03:06] <xgodsoul> sivik, Just trying to help people just like you've done for me ;)
[03:06] <linux_user400354> randolfcarter, thanks
[03:06] <Lord_Pall> there are 3 drives. 2 running in raid 0, 1 running solo. Grub and ubuntu are on the solo drive
[03:06] <Lord_Pall> windows is on the raid 0 drive(s)
[03:06] <Lord_Pall> grub is trying to boot windows off of the solo drive when it should be booting off of the raid drive
[03:06] <Sivik> xgodsoul, thats cool, i was just telling you that i was handling it
[03:06] <Sivik> !import
[03:06] <ubotu> Sivik: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:07] <xgodsoul> sivik, :D
[03:07] <harry> Sivik: every time i browse the net. is there also a folder here that also stores like the temporary files of the internet like the windows had??
[03:07] <xgodsoul> harry, that's browser dependant
[03:07] <Sivik> harry: not sure
[03:07] <Sivik> harry: i have never cared
[03:08] <Smirnov> Some browsers cache it in an embedded database even
[03:08] <Flannel> harry: might be easier to clear it via the browser
[03:08] <linux_user400354> does anyone use irssi ?
[03:08] <xgodsoul> and technically, yes there is a *cache* in every browser, but the time before deletion is browser depend too
[03:08] <Smirnov> file based storage... so old school
[03:08] <Flannel> linux_user400354: yep
[03:08] <Lord_Pall> testing something to see if menu.lst is what i should be changing
[03:08] <Sivik> Flannel: yes
[03:08] <harry> xgodsoul: coz wheni'm using windows i always go to the temp folder and delete everything and also the temporary folder??
[03:08] <mky375> Loard_Pall whats in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[03:08] <edneymatias> hi again
[03:08] <RandolphCarter> harry: if you're using Firefox, use the 'Clear Private Data' menu item
[03:08] <Sivik> harry: it shouldn't be a problem with linux
[03:08] <Sivik> edneymatias, whatca need
[03:08] <xgodsoul> harry, If you're using Firefox, there's a button that does that for you
[03:08] <RandolphCarter> harry: it's in Tools
[03:08] <boricua> and the ubuntu logo next to a pakg what does in mean in synapti
[03:08] <Lord_Pall> mky - looks like the grubb.conf syntax
[03:08] <Lord_Pall> in fact
[03:09] <Lord_Pall> it's what grub is using to build the menu
[03:09] <Lord_Pall> just verified
[03:09] <xgodsoul> damn! randolphcarter told you before me :D
[03:09] <RandolphCarter> xgodsoul: :P
[03:09] <harry> xgodsoul: ok i get it now. thanks
[03:09] <xgodsoul> its NP :)
[03:09] <Lord_Pall> so that's what I have instead of a grubb.conf
[03:09] <Flannel> boricua: it's fully supported by ubuntu
[03:09] <becalyn> Here's my problem.  When I click on the download link for the Desktop CD it downloads an .iso file.  I have no clue what to do with that.
[03:09] <Lord_Pall> Now how do I change it so that it boots to the proper drive?
[03:09] <Sivik> !grub
[03:09] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:09] <Sivik> Lord_Pall, try reading what ubotu says
[03:09] <mky375> I'm not really sure about it but it seems like that what you need to edit........
[03:09] <boricua> !synaptic
[03:09] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:09] <xgodsoul> .ISO file is a CD image...
[03:09] <Flannel> Lord_Pall: there's a "default" entry, you change that number
[03:09] <runes> is postfix server install just for sending mail?
[03:09] <Sivik> !tell Lord_Pall about grub
[03:09] <linux_user400354> does x fowarding in ssh work with cgywin?
[03:09] <threeseas> thanks guys... don't know how well the printer is working (dried out ink) but installing the gnome-cups-manager and making a change in the bios to EPP it seems that my printer is working (and in hindsight I didn't need to dl the canon ppd file as ubuntu draper drake apparently had it already
[03:09] <chuck8> you burn .iso files as an .iso image
[03:10] <Lord_Pall> does that howto cover raid drives?
[03:10] <chuck8> and then pop them in your cd drive and reboot
[03:10] <Lord_Pall> or from grubs standpoint, they're just another drive?
[03:10] <Flannel> linux_user400354: believe it should
[03:10] <Lord_Pall> since so far everything else with ubuntu has raiseed hell with the raid part.. heh
[03:10] <xgodsoul> you can mount them too :) (.iso files i mean)
[03:10] <becalyn> Ahhh, I haven't rebooted.  Let me try that.
[03:10] <becalyn> Thanks
[03:10] <Sivik> !raid
[03:10] <ubotu> hmm... raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[03:10] <xgodsoul> but for a OS cd. better burning :D
[03:10] <becalyn> I did burn it
[03:10] <Lord_Pall> ubotu I dont need to configure them, but just get grub to boot off of it
[03:10] <ubotu> Lord_Pall: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:10] <Sivik> !tell Lord_Pall about raid
[03:10] <becalyn> But my computer doesn't know what to do with an .iso file
[03:11] <moua> hi there
[03:11] <Sivik> becalyn, are you in windows?
[03:11] <RandolphCarter> becalyn: are you using Windows or Ubuntu right now?
[03:11] <Flannel> becalyn: so, you burned it as an image, right?  not just burning the iso file to a disk
[03:11] <becalyn> RandolphCarter, Windows
[03:11] <RandolphCarter> becalyn: do you have anything like Nero or Alcohol 120% installed?
[03:11] <Sivik> becalyn, go download nero and use it to burn that os
[03:11] <mky375> Lord_Pally you should see what linux refers to the drives if you do a "cat /etc/fstab"
[03:11] <becalyn> lol I don't have anything at the moment hardly.  Had to replace my hard drive today.
[03:12] <agamotto> becalyn:  ouch
[03:12] <Lord_Pall> so the windows raid isn't mapped
[03:12] <RandolphCarter> becalyn: ack :/ you'll need to get something you can write it to a disk with - Nero can do that ("Burn Image")
[03:12] <Lord_Pall> so it doesn't show up
[03:12] <Lord_Pall> with cat /fstab
[03:12] <xgodsoul> hehehehehe :D i like linux :) when you are on windows you must like download an evaluation version of alcohol 120%, of Nero... bla bla... when you open linux, you open synaptics and POOF everything you want is there --- FREE :D
[03:12] <Lord_Pall> i can see them if i do dmraid -ay
[03:12] <daxxar> Hm, vim7 isn't coming to Dapper? :)
[03:12] <becalyn> So I don't want to just burn it to a CD, I have to burn it as an image?
[03:13] <RandolphCarter> daxxar: danger, will robinson.  hopefully dapper+1
[03:13] <orbin> xgodsoul: you can burn images using nautilus....already installed :P
[03:13] <Flannel> becalyn: right.  you extract the iso to the CD.
[03:13] <ompaul> !timetable
[03:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.
[03:13] <xgodsoul> orbin, hehe exacly :) but I meant every utility you need ;)
[03:13] <becalyn> Flannel, ok.  Not something I've done before but I'm sure I can figure it out.  If not, I'll be back. lol
[03:13] <becalyn> Thanks
[03:13] <daxxar> Okay, so I have to hope someone backports vim7 to Dapper? ;D
[03:13] <tripppy> i thought i updated 5.10 to dapper. after checking with lsb_release -a - im still on 5.10
[03:13] <xgodsoul> but... perhaps just .. games a lacking ... but I like wine :D
[03:14] <RandolphCarter> daxxar: check it out and checkinstall it if you want I guess *runs to do this now*
[03:14] <|_ocke> dude... synaptics is the sheeit
[03:14] <|_ocke> i still cant get DRI to work though
[03:14] <JuGhEaD> Is there a way to make a fat32 partition on a hdd using ubuntu?
[03:14] <Flannel> becalyn: most burning software things know how to deal with isos, of course, you might have to do some odd menu things to get there
[03:14] <|_ocke> JuGhEaD, why?
[03:14] <Flannel> JuGhEaD: of course
[03:14] <|_ocke> lol
[03:14] <xgodsoul> hehe :)
[03:14] <|_ocke> no i'm actually probably going to soon too
[03:14] <JuGhEaD> I have some free space I would like to rad/write to using windows and linux
[03:15] <becalyn> Flannel, I burned it with Windows built-in copier.  It apparently didn't burn it as an image.
[03:15] <tripppy> agrh... i think the kernel updated but im still on breezy
[03:15] <Lord_Pall> dammit. these docs don't cover how to point grub to boot windows
[03:15] <xgodsoul> me too I don't see the utility of a  FAT32 on linux.. but.. hey :) if it makes you happy! :)
[03:15] <JuGhEaD> I have XP pro and the only thing i can do in it is format it as ntfs
[03:15] <Lord_Pall> mostly how to NOT boot windows :)
[03:15] <MTecknology> My laptop died because of the battery. When I restarted it, it wanted to check the drive because it had been mounted 30 times without check. It finds an error about Multy-claimed blocks. Then it wants to run fsck or reboot. Wen running fsck it allows me to put in the root password or restart(Control-D). I don't remember what the root password is, and it won't let me bypass it so I can log in and reset it... What do I do???
[03:15] <tripppy> JuGhEaD, fat32 can only be ~30gig
[03:15] <RandolphCarter> Lord_Pall: there's an example in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:15] <xgodsoul> lord_pall... wait I'll tell you what I have in my menu.lst for windows
[03:15] <SAM_theman> yo guys
[03:15] <JuGhEaD> oh
[03:15] <tripppy> JuGhEaD, make a partition 30gig then you can make it fat32
[03:16] <kbrooks> XVampireX: hey
[03:16] <Lord_Pall> xgod do you run windows off of a raid drive?
[03:16] <XVampireX> hey
[03:16] <Flannel> !tell Lord_Pall about dualboot
[03:16] <JuGhEaD> is fat32 the only one that linux and windows can read and write to
[03:16] <mky375> Lord_Pally, wish I knew more.... lol you could use ntloader to boot grub
[03:16] <tripppy> yeah
[03:16] <Flannel> JuGhEaD: there is a way to allow windows to read ext3
[03:16] <XVampireX> kbrooks: Wanted something?
[03:17] <tripppy> Flannel, ive found the windows ext3 drivers to be buggy
[03:17] <Lord_Pall> gah
[03:17] <Lord_Pall> dual loaders make me sad
[03:17] <xgodsoul> Lord_Pall, nop... from the same HDD.. but you've asked for the windows links from grub, no?
[03:17] <kbrooks> XVampireX: some news. i just implementerd pastebin functionality for orwell 0.2.
[03:17] <agamotto> trippy:  Considering what they are attempting to do, it is impressive that they do anything :)
[03:17] <tripppy> how do i update to dapper? gksudo "update-manager"
[03:17] <tripppy>  ?
[03:17] <Lord_Pall> xgod - i have the windows links. They're pointed to the wrong drive
[03:17] <mky375> especially with rail
[03:17] <Lord_Pall> that's the problem
[03:17] <XVampireX> kbrooks: Ah, nice :D
[03:17] <Lord_Pall> I'm not sure what to set them to to boot off of the raid.
[03:17] <macsim> Hum I need the definition of "reading age" for a translation anybody can help me ? thanks
[03:17] <mky375> err raid
[03:17] <kbrooks> XVampireX: i kicked e-mail out
[03:17] <Lord_Pall> Which isn't even mounted in ubuntu
[03:17] <xgodsoul> lord_Pall Oh sorry! haven't understood :S... is linux recognising your raid?
[03:18] <agamotto> macsim:  What languages?
[03:18] <Lord_Pall> unsure. Dmraid shows it, but I don't ahve it setup for any sort of linux use
[03:18] <skipmeister> does anybody know where I can find a list of vga text boot modes?
[03:18] <macsim> agamotto: english -> french
[03:18] <RandolphCarter> Lord_Pall: the way Linux interprets your drives has no relation to how Grub sees them btw
[03:18] <xgodsoul> alors tu parles francais? :D
[03:18] <Lord_Pall> ah
[03:18] <Flannel> !tell tripppy about update
[03:18] <Lord_Pall> that's good to know
[03:18] <macsim> xgodsoul: ;)
[03:18] <RandolphCarter> Lord_Pall: grub does (hdn,n)
[03:18] <orbin> ubotu: tell agamotto about upgrade
[03:19] <Lord_Pall> so in theory, the raid should be hd1,0
[03:19] <RandolphCarter> Lord_Pall: bus/identifier pair
[03:19] <ry> does anyone know if its possible to play drm-encoded m4p files from itunes in ubuntu?
[03:19] <Lord_Pall> oh wait
[03:19] <orbin> whoops
[03:19] <RandolphCarter> Lord_Pall: in theory, yes
[03:19] <Lord_Pall> but that does not work
[03:19] <RandolphCarter> Lord_Pall: or if Linux is on 1 already, try 0
[03:19] <xgodsoul> try like...
[03:19] <Lord_Pall> linux is on 0
[03:19] <RandolphCarter> Lord_Pall: are all the drives on the same bus?
[03:19] <Lord_Pall> no
[03:19] <xgodsoul> hd{rnd(20)},{rnd(20)}
[03:19] <xgodsoul> :D
[03:19] <Lord_Pall> device.map has /hda set to hd0,/sda and /sdb to 1 and 2
[03:20] <agamotto> macsim:  age de lecture
[03:20] <Lord_Pall> I tried to boot off of hd1 and it didn't seem to work
[03:20] <Flannel> Lord_Pall: you need a letter in there too
[03:20] <cafuego> ry: only after you remove the drm (there are tools, ask google)
[03:20] <xgodsoul> !tell xgodsoul about update
[03:20] <Lord_Pall> flannel there are letters, I was just shorthanding :)
[03:20] <xgodsoul> waw! ubotu :D
[03:20] <Ohzie> Can I make the desktop in gnome not show icons?
[03:20] <cafuego> ry: After that, they're straightforward AAC files, which you cna play with any player using the gstreamed-faad libs.
[03:20] <ry> thanks cafuego
[03:20] <Flannel> Lord_Pall: grub starts at 0 as well, not 1.
[03:21] <ry> cool thats what i'm after
[03:21] <libdmb> hey. is it possible to upgrade debian stable to ubuntu dapper?
[03:21] <Lord_Pall> yeah. It's booting ubuntu off of 0
[03:21] <macsim> agamotto: ok thanks ;)
[03:21] <cafuego> libdmb: Not really.
[03:21] <libdmb> seroisuly?
[03:21] <xgodsoul> Oh I have a question.... Habitually CTRL+F4 is for closing a tab (in firefox, or any other software that uses tabs) but in XFCE, CTR+F1-2-3-4 is for switching desktrops environments... how can I change these keys?
[03:21] <patricio> hola
[03:21] <cafuego> libdmb: it's probably quicker to back up /home and /etc, then do a fresh install.
[03:22] <libdmb> you can't just change the sources.list to point to ubuntu servers ?
[03:22] <ry> google says: burn a CD then re-rip it :(
[03:22] <cafuego> libdmb: No, that will result in brokenness.
[03:22] <libdmb> cafuego: well, i can't do that
[03:22] <Lord_Pall> the menu lst item says root (hd1,0) for windows. Which seems to map to /dev/sda in device.map, but it doesn't work
[03:22] <libdmb> this is a server
[03:22] <libdmb> its actually a vps
[03:22] <|_ocke> alright
[03:23] <|_ocke> how do i install a mpeg plugin for gnome-baker
[03:23] <RandolphCarter> Lord_Pall: does it have chainloader +1 in the menu.lst?
[03:23] <|_ocke> to burn an audio cd from mp3s
[03:23] <RandolphCarter> Lord_Pall: in the windows section, that is
[03:23] <orbin> xgodsoul: really?  i've found ctrk+w to be for tab closing in most apps...
[03:23] <Flannel> ry: look into playfair.
[03:23] <tripppy> how long does dapper upgrade take?
[03:23] <Flannel> ry: or, whatever it's called now
[03:24] <ry> thx Flannel
[03:24] <Flannel> tripppy: depends on your download speed
[03:24] <ry> will do
[03:24] <xgodsoul> orbin, i'll try this at one... I liked CTRL+F4 because it like ALT + F4.. and ALT+TAb is CTRL+tab for tabs....
[03:24] <xgodsoul> orbin, like... ALT + things are for applications, CTRL+ things are for tabs inside the application
[03:24] <tripppy> minutes or hours?
[03:24] <orbin> xgodsoul: oh, i see
[03:24] <Lord_Pall> yeas
[03:24] <AlienX> i've been having and issue with my system putting ubuntu on a slaved hard drive with the master being the windows drive. Would there be any problems with me making the current windows drive the slave and using the ubuntu drive as master?
[03:24] <Lord_Pall> it has chainloader +1
[03:24] <xgodsoul> orbin, but you're right :) ctr;+w ! thanks!
[03:25] <RandolphCarter> AlienX: no problems with Linux, but Windows would throw a hissy fit
[03:25] <xgodsoul> alienx = you must have a booting MBR on the master drive
[03:25] <orbin> xgodsoul: i'm sure you can change your keymap.  try asking in #xfce maybe
[03:25] <xgodsoul> otherwise...  a boot CD or floppy
[03:25] <xgodsoul> orbin thanks! :D
[03:25] <pyro> Hello all, I'm having a bit of a minor problem, I cant seem to change my screen resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x1024.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  I;ve already installed the latest NVIDIA drivers
[03:25] <AlienX> RandolphCarter, hmm...i don't know what my options are since grub isn't liking the setup very mcuh
[03:25] <harry> Sivik: every time i install some applications. where does the package go???
[03:26] <libdmb> cafuego: is there a way to do it with deboot strap?
[03:26] <Flannel> !tell pyro about resolution
[03:26] <AlienX> xgodsoul, there is no problem having a booting mbr, i can do that on the drive that's currently slave
[03:26] <agamotto> How many here have had problems with sound after installing/upgrading to Dapper?
[03:26] <gavagai> agamotto, huge problems
[03:26] <xgodsoul> alienx, okay :) just wanted to be sure you wont get stuck with a *please enter a booting floppy* message :)
[03:27] <agamotto> gavagai:  Does there seem to be a pattern as to why?
[03:27] <Lord_Pall> hmm
[03:27] <Lord_Pall> hd2 says the drive does not exist
[03:27] <Lord_Pall> so that's different at least
[03:27] <libdmb> gtg actually, toomorow
[03:27] <ry> Flannel, it's now called Hymn
[03:27] <fogos> hi someone knows the command to erase a cdrw
[03:28] <gavagai> agamotto, i don't know, i just switched to ubuntu... my first experience was hours and hours of sound hassle
[03:28] <agamotto> ahhhh
[03:28] <Healot> fogos: with cdrecord?
[03:28] <AlienX> xgodsoul, would windows still boot you think or no?
[03:28] <fogos> Healot, yes.
[03:28] <gavagai> agamotto, my ridiculous fix was to install breezy and then upgrade... breezy automagically worked
[03:28] <orbin> agamotto, gavagai :  someone pointed you to this yet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems ?
[03:28] <AlienX> actually, that message was for both xgodsoul  and RandolphCarter
[03:29] <agamotto> orbin:  thanks
[03:29] <nul1> I need help getting my sound to work
[03:29] <gavagai> orbin, nope but i'll keep that in mind if i ever have probs again, thanks
[03:29] <RandolphCarter> AlienX: it should still boot, but it might complain a bit afterwards and show a few dialogs
[03:29] <nul1> if someone here knows about ubuntu and can help me set up a few things could you please send me a private message?
[03:29] <AlienX> RandolphCarter, oh, i can live with that :)
[03:30] <Lord_Pall> okay im out of ideas
[03:30] <gavagai> nul1, sounds kind of sexy and private
[03:30] <nul1> thanks
[03:30] <nul1> want to do it?
[03:30] <xgodsoul> Hem... alienx... I already saw windows being a crybaby when the MBR was changed for something windows doesn't like...
[03:30] <gavagai> just ask your questions in the channel
[03:30] <intelikey> console mode.   i don't guess it is possable for a user to mount a floppy drive with root nosuid is it ?
[03:30] <xgodsoul> but... we never know
[03:30] <xgodsoul> :)
[03:30] <stackcheese> im using GNOME on my laptop which uses an integrated video card and scaling windows/running applications sometimes seem sluggish does anyone have some kind of insight on this?
[03:30] <RandolphCarter> intelikey: pmount
[03:31] <AlienX> xgodsoul, let it whine :) i just need a working system on both, i don't care if it gets mad in the process :)
[03:31] <stackcheese> would adding more ram fix this since i believe the Intel GMA950 borrows some of the physical ram
[03:31] <Sivik> cd /usr/bin
[03:31] <adamant1988> does anyone know what would cause my 3d acceleration to go away when I restart Xserver?
[03:31] <fogos> Healot, yes with cdrecord
[03:32] <adamant1988> I'm using the ATI flgrx or w/e drivers
[03:32] <nul1> i am using a dell optiplex and the sound control works in the top right of the ubuntu desktop, but i hear no sound.
[03:32] <Tano> what should I use to play mp3 files?
[03:32] <xgodsoul> alienx hehe ;P worst that will happend is that you will have to boot from the your win CD and fix things like windows wants it :)
[03:32] <spikeb> Tano: whatever you darn well please
[03:32] <orbin> stackcheese: more ram wouldn't hurt.  but it's probably best to see if direct rendering (3d) support is avialable for your card
[03:32] <adamant1988> Tano, I like AmoraK
[03:33] <intelikey> RandolphCarter hmmm pmount requires dbus-1   i though i was rid of that for good......
[03:33] <AlienX> xgodsoul, i can handle that, it's my roommate's computer :)
[03:33] <xgodsoul> alienx :D haha! so... you enjoy installing linux on your roomat computer while he isn't looking? :)
[03:33] <Tano> because rhytmbox music player ssays it doesn't recongnize the mp3 files
[03:33] <Tano> :(
[03:33] <nul1> I hear if you play the windows cd backwards demonds will tell you to worship satan, even worse if you play it forward it will install windows!
[03:33] <Tano> ok
[03:33] <Tano> thanks
[03:33] <adamant1988> Tano are you sure that you have the codecs installed?
[03:34] <agamotto> I have been known to make some dual-boot machines by surprise....
[03:34] <AlienX> xgodsoul, well, he asked me to put linux on it...i don't care about windows in the process as long as he can boot into it
[03:34] <xgodsoul> tano : use MPlayer, beep media player, XMMS... are all reading mp3s
[03:34] <intelikey> RandolphCarter i really doubt that pmount will work.... testing now.
[03:34] <Tano> no
[03:34] <Tano> not sure
[03:34] <adamant1988> You need to install the codecs for mp3s
[03:34] <Tano> where do i get them>?
[03:34] <xgodsoul> nul1 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[03:34] <adamant1988> !easyubuntu
[03:34] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:34] <Tano> i just finish inslling codecs for divx
[03:34] <adamant1988> use that^^^
[03:34] <spikeb> Tano: check out easy ubuntu :)
[03:34] <adamant1988> EasyUbuntu will do all the dirty work for you
[03:34] <xgodsoul> alienx : aaah okay :)
[03:35] <kbrooks> !automatix
[03:35] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:35] <kbrooks> also this ^^^
[03:35] <xgodsoul> hehe :)
[03:35] <Tano> thanx
[03:35] <Tano> :)
[03:35] <intelikey> tty23 [greg$~]  pmount-hal /dev/fd0 /disks/3.5/
[03:35] <intelikey> libhal.c 1805 : Error sending msg: Service "org.freedesktop.Hal" does not exist
[03:35] <intelikey> Error: given UDI does not exist
[03:35] <RandolphCarter> ack :/
[03:35] <nul1> WHO WANTS TO HELP ME WITH UBUNTU???
[03:35] <orbin> so is automatix safe or not safe?  that trigger seems to change daily.
[03:35] <JuGhEaD> I can try
[03:35] <xgodsoul> nul1, about what?
[03:35] <kbrooks> nul1: EVERYONE
[03:35] <JuGhEaD> I've had ubuntu for 3 days now
[03:35] <tehuti> anyone use GNUsTicker?
[03:35] <nul1> i am not getting sound
[03:35] <kbrooks> orbin: the trigger is now neutral
[03:35] <darkprophet> how come the SMP kernel isnt installed ?
[03:36] <darkprophet> any ideas how to install it ?
[03:36] <kbrooks> orbin: automatix is no more safer than easyubuntu is
[03:36] <troy_s> darkprophet:  there is no smp now for dapper.
[03:36] <darkprophet> bugger...
[03:36] <JuGhEaD> nul1:  what sound card?
[03:36] <troy_s> darkprophet:  they all are smp effectively.
[03:36] <RandolphCarter> darkprophet: because most people using x86 won't have an SMP kernel, and it adds a slight performance hit
[03:36] <troy_s> darkprophet:  :)
[03:36] <RandolphCarter> darkprophet: and as troy_s said :) they just need a flag
[03:36] <orbin> kbrooks: ah. just reread that easyubuntu one...lol
[03:36] <nul1> well, im not sure if that is the problem, when i run lspci it shows a sound card
[03:36] <troy_s> darkprophet:  they are all smp -- linux is smp by default.  they are all smp now.
[03:36] <nul1> and the volume control is working
[03:36] <Lord_Pall> any ideas if the default ubuntu install wil be upgraded to work with software raid?
[03:36] <RandolphCarter> troy_s: no it isn't :/
[03:37] <darkprophet> troy_s: err.....somehow i doubt that
[03:37] <adamant1988> Kbrooks EasyUbuntu is safer if the site I've seen displayed accurate into...
[03:37] <nul1> i tried to play a cd and get an error message
[03:37] <kbrooks> Lord_Pall: upgraded how?
[03:37] <nul1> a music cd
[03:37] <Lord_Pall> well make it work
[03:37] <Lord_Pall> that would be a start
[03:37] <troy_s> darkprophet, randolph: yes they are.
[03:37] <troy_s> darkprophet:  believe me.
[03:37] <kbrooks> adamant1988: irrevelant. easyubuntu is no more safer than easyubuntu is
[03:37] <RandolphCarter> troy_s: when you compile an SMP kernel, you can add an option to enable/disable using SMP by passing a kernel flag
[03:37] <lonegeek> hey..... in a arguement with my dad about linux lol......... Is linus making money? What is his goal/purpose of linux?
[03:37] <RandolphCarter> troy_s: believe me, I remember seeing the flag in 'make menuconfig'
[03:37] <darkprophet> troy_s: i would like to...but the gnome monitor is showing 0 activity on the second CPU :)
[03:37] <troy_s> randolph:  actually no, they all have support for multi processors you can set how many.
[03:37] <JuGhEaD> nul1:  what is the message?
[03:37] <kbrooks> lonegeek: he isn't making money from linux
[03:37] <troy_s> darkprophet:  my 2nd cpu works just fine.
[03:38] <miguelsr> !modem
[03:38] <ubotu> from memory, modem is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[03:38] <martyvis> Lord_Pall, I doubt it - software raid is pretty much beyond a standard dektop requirement
[03:38] <troy_s> darkprophet:  straight out of box.
[03:38] <RandolphCarter> troy_s: it so happens that Ubuntu kernels are built with SMP enabled, but Linux isn't SMP by default (you can turn it off)
[03:38] <lonegeek> kbrooks: how many people work on the kernal
[03:38] <kbrooks> lonegeek: er, i mean the linux kernel
[03:38] <nul1> jughead please send me an im
[03:38] <adamant1988> lonegeek yes linus has made money from linux.  he said so in an interview.
[03:38] <ry> is crossover office free?
[03:38] <Lord_Pall> marty well crap
[03:38] <SurfnKid_> ok guys someone remind me how to fix this problem
[03:38] <SurfnKid_> I can ping yahoo ubuntu and surf the web
[03:38] <troy_s> randolph:  you CAN turn it down to 1 processor, but by default make menuconfig will configure for 4 i believe defacto.
[03:38] <miguelsr> !adsl
[03:38] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[03:38] <SurfnKid_> but i cant update synaptic
[03:38] <kbrooks> adamant1988: linux is Free and free (as in speech, and as in beer)
[03:38] <darkprophet> ok, explain this then...my GL app is running 400 fps slower with ubuntu :)
[03:38] <martyvis> Lord_Pall, why is sw raid needed for 99% of desktops?
[03:38] <Lord_Pall> its not
[03:38] <linux_> For glxgears, what do i put to get a output of my fps?
[03:38] <Lord_Pall> its for me
[03:38] <orbin> SurfnKid_: define "can't"
[03:38] <adamant1988> kbooks would you like me to get the article on CNN where he said linux has 'made him rich enough'.
[03:38] <SurfnKid_> ive tried removing the DNS adding the router's DNS and still doesntn do anything
[03:38] <troy_s> darkprophet:  gl and multi proc are two different issues.
[03:39] <Lord_Pall> i'm trying to install this or follow a basic set of instructions
[03:39] <miguelsr> !spanish
[03:39] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, miguelsr
[03:39] <kbrooks> adamant1988: go on.
[03:39] <SurfnKid_> orbin,  cant resolve  anything when 'sudo apt-get update' runs
[03:39] <adamant1988> Uno momento
[03:39] <Lord_Pall> and there simply aren't either instructions or a detailed explanation out there
[03:39] <ry> is crossover office the same thing as wine?
[03:39] <stackcheese> on my intel core duo (1.66) and 512mb of ram System Monitor shows that its using 20% process w/ just  firefox, gaim, and xchat running
[03:39] <SurfnKid_> orbin, i can go anywhere else but there!! its upseting
[03:39] <lonegeek> linux isnt free....be cause mandriva, redhat, suse all sell linux...... how is that fair? Somone is making money off of something linus worked on
[03:39] <stackcheese> does that seem high?
[03:39] <nul1> jughead i just sent you a message
[03:39] <darkprophet> troy_s: the newer nvidia take SMP into account, and my engine is multithreaded
[03:39] <Lord_Pall> the one on the ubuntu wiki assumes knowledge that I unfortunately do not have
[03:39] <lonegeek> Is just linus working on the kernal?
[03:39] <SurfnKid> :(
[03:39] <orbin> SurfnKid_: pastebin the output of apt-get update
[03:39] <Lord_Pall> it's just frustrating
[03:39] <troy_s> darkprophet:  if the app doesn't fork, then it isn't going to see a gain.
[03:39] <SurfnKid> ok
[03:39] <orbin> SurfnKid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:39] <troy_s> darkprophet:  as i said, the two are unrelated.
[03:39] <adamant1988> lonegeek there is a large group working on the kernel let me get the article for you
[03:39] <darkprophet> they seem are :)
[03:39] <adamant1988> http://edition.cnn.com/2006/BUSINESS/05/18/global.office.linustorvalds/ <<< article
[03:40] <darkprophet> they seem to be anyways
[03:40] <troy_s> darkprophet: they are :)
[03:40] <darkprophet> because same driver version
[03:40] <gavagai> mandriva, red hat and suse sell a lot more than the linux kernel
[03:40] <intelikey> so as i said, in console mode.   i guess it is impossable for a user to mount a floppy drive with root nosuid.
[03:40] <martyvis> Lord_Pall, have you looked at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html - i used this many years ago
[03:40] <troy_s> darkprophet:  your graphics card handles the gl, your processor handles the processing.
[03:40] <nul1> if someone can help me with my no sound issue please send me an im
[03:40] <darkprophet> heh, no it doesn't
[03:40] <lonegeek> i know....but without the kernal it would be nothing....
[03:40] <darkprophet> the cpu sends the messages for the gpu
[03:40] <troy_s> darkprophet:  the wm hands off a certain amount of processing to the card.
[03:40] <agamotto> Feh
[03:40] <troy_s> darkprophet:  which operates in parallel.
[03:40] <Lord_Pall> marty - it's more the installation than anything else.
[03:41] <nul1> ANYONE HERE HELP ME WITH A SOUND PROBLEM?????
[03:41] <darkprophet> yes, if the cpu cant run as fast or faster than the GPU, then theres trouble :)
[03:41] <Lord_Pall> Oh well. I'm back into windows at least
[03:41] <darkprophet> and my card is blazing
[03:41] <darkprophet> so im thinking its a CPU issue
[03:41] <Lord_Pall> I'll wait until i get a laptop or something
[03:41] <SurfnKid> orbin, i cant let me paste it in PM ok
[03:41] <troy_s> darkprophet:  well it isn't smp issue.
[03:41] <troy_s> darkprophet:  what are you running exactly?
[03:41] <adamant1988> lonegeek:  there is a large group that works on the kernel, the article I pasted explains that. And includes a statement saying linux has made money from linux.
[03:41] <orbin> nul1: shouting isn't gonna help you any.  try here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or ubuntuforums.org
[03:41] <adamant1988> linus*
[03:41] <SurfnKid> orbin, posting returns an error of some sort
[03:42] <nul1> WHAT I CANT HEAR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:42] <pyro> ok guys, I'm sure this is a question you've heard before, but what is the quickest and simplest way to setup the 3D xgl interface ???
[03:42] <troy_s> darkprophet:  i wouldn't say strictly not SMP, but it would be a problem if smp wasn't working by default.
[03:42] <tehuti> anyone use GNUsTicker?
[03:42] <troy_s> ubotu, tell pyro about xgl
[03:42] <darkprophet> ok, let me tell you this
[03:42] <martyvis> Lord_Pall, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.1 specifically addresses this
[03:42] <darkprophet> the sytem monitor is only showing 1 CPU
[03:42] <darkprophet> when ive got 2
[03:42] <orbin> nul1: now i can't hear you...welcome to my ignore list
[03:42] <nul1> ORBIN I TRIED THAT
[03:42] <_jason> !xgl
[03:42] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:42] <gavagai> nul1, stop yelling it is counterproductive for you.
[03:42] <intelikey> SurfnKid you know to /say /blah   right ?
[03:42] <nul1> THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP ORBIN
[03:42] <Lord_Pall> nono I mean installing ubuntu and grub
[03:42] <ry> is crossover office the same thing as wine?
[03:43] <Lord_Pall> grub is what did it. It simply wont boot windows off of the raid drive for some reason
[03:43] <Lord_Pall> it'll boot ubuntu just peachy
[03:43] <Lord_Pall> but no windows
[03:43] <adamant1988> nul1 the best way to get noticed in a positive manner is to quit acting like you're the most important person out of 842.
[03:43] <nul1> I KNOW HOW TO FIX YOUR BOOT PROBLEM
[03:43] <gavagai> and quit acting like you didn't get your money's worth...  $0
[03:43] <xgodsoul> aaah were 842 ? :D
[03:43] <troy_s> darkprophet, what sysmon?
[03:43] <martyvis> Lord_Pall, do you mean you software raided the windows parition?
[03:43] <adamant1988> yeah there's 842 in the room right now xgodsoul
[03:43] <xgodsoul> gavagai hahah :)
[03:43] <darkprophet> troy_s: gnome
[03:44] <xgodsoul> adamant 1988 I simply haven't noticed :)
[03:44] <nul1> So anyone want to help me with my sound problem
[03:44] <troy_s> when you are configging it dark, do you select the 2nd processor?
[03:44] <vacco> OK, I've chrashed Windows today, so I decided to install ubuntu instead of continuing the MS crap
[03:44] <nul1> i am new to ubuntu
[03:44] <Lord_Pall> marty  3 drives. 2 running raid 0 with windows on the sata controller, 1 on the ide controller running ubuntu and an ntfs partition
[03:44] <intelikey> !yell
[03:44] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[03:44] <ry> hey all... i'm trying to compile wine but i'm new to compiling, when i do "./configure" i get the error " C compiler cannot create executables"... anyone know how i can remedy?
[03:44] <darkprophet> troy_s: config what ? I barely just installed it
[03:44] <Lord_Pall> grub is on the ntfs partition. When i boot off of that drive, it boots fine, grub runs, but wont boot into windows
[03:44] <darkprophet> Suse detected that ive got a 2nd cpu
[03:44] <adamant1988> nul1 describe your sound problem
[03:44] <nul1> WHO CARES
[03:44] <darkprophet> and it did most of the stuff
[03:44] <Flannel> ry: why not just get wine out of the repositories?
[03:44] <Flannel> !tell nul1 about patience
[03:44] <Lord_Pall> when I change the order to skip the ide drive, it boots windows fine, but no ubuntu
[03:44] <troy_s> darkprophet:
[03:44] <intelikey> nul1 the ops do.
[03:44] <nul1> can we private chat adamant?
[03:44] <martyvis> Lord_Pall, is this hardware or software raid? software raid needs a linux kernel running
[03:44] <troy_s> darkprophet:  no, run the frequency scaler panel app.
[03:44] <gavagai> ubotu, tell nul1 about smart questions
[03:44] <Lord_Pall> software raid
[03:45] <Lord_Pall> aha
[03:45] <troy_s> darkprophet:  you should get TWO pulldown cpus to select from.
[03:45] <Lord_Pall> so no grub boot to software raid?
[03:45] <adamant1988> sure. if you think you can calm down nul1
[03:45] <orbin> vacco: how did you go?
[03:45] <troy_s> darkprophet:  if you put two up, you can see both simul.
[03:45] <ry> Flannel, i don't know i think i'm confused... the wine repo says it doesn't have a version for amd64.... and the codeweavers site has the code avail for download so i thot i'd try that.
[03:45] <Lord_Pall> its the nvidia whosit raid thing
[03:45] <ry> am i being dense?
[03:45] <martyvis> Lord_Pall, grub should be in the boot sector of your default  hd
[03:45] <x_o1> How can I run a graphical application as root?  If I "sudo su" and then run something, it tells me "Cannot determine DISPLAY"
[03:45] <darkprophet> troy_s: theres only 1
[03:45] <ry> x_o1, try gksudo
[03:45] <orbin> x_o1: gksudo <app>
[03:45] <Lord_Pall> marty - I tried that, but getting grub installed into a software raid setup was difficult
[03:45] <Lord_Pall> and ended up eating the windows drive
[03:45] <troy_s> darkpropeht:  when you click prefs, how many pulldowns can you select from?
[03:45] <Lord_Pall> s
[03:46] <troy_s> darkprophet:  right click prefs that is on the panel app.
[03:46] <Flannel> !tell ry about wine
[03:46] <darkprophet> troy_s: im not that stupid....its 1 CPU
[03:46] <Lord_Pall> the ubiquity installer and qparted absolutely hate software raid
[03:46] <troy_s> uname -r for me
[03:46] <Lord_Pall> and were very difficult about it
[03:46] <adamant1988> Hey can anyone tell me what could cause my 3-d acceleration to fail when I restart Xserver? I'm running the ATI FGLRX or w/e drivers on an ATI radeon X600. Thanks in advance.
[03:46] <Flannel> ry: that'll get you started, it'll give you lots of info on compiling and stuff too
[03:46] <nul1> adamant i sent you a private message
[03:46] <SurfnKid> whats the registration command
[03:46] <ry> ok thx again Flannel i'll give it a whirl
[03:46] <darkprophet> troy_s: "2.6.15-23-386"
[03:46] <SurfnKid> for your nick
[03:46] <SurfnKid> !register
[03:46] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:46] <martyvis> Lord_Pall, sure sw raid is meant to be configured by hand still
[03:47] <SurfnKid> !register
[03:47] <adamant1988> nul1 I didn't get it.
[03:47] <troy_s> dark:  intel or amd chip inside?
[03:47] <Lord_Pall> marty blech
[03:47] <darkprophet> amd x2 4200+
[03:47] <Flannel> nul1: you have to be registered and identified to be able to private message
[03:47] <nul1> dammit
[03:47] <troy_s> ick and youre running in 32 bit mode?
[03:47] <x_o1> orbin:  OK, how do I add to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH so that gksudo can use it?  "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/ gksudo rosegarden" doesn't work.  Drat
[03:47] <nul1> did you try and send me one too?
[03:47] <darkprophet> but i have a few issues with the amd64 version of Ubuntu, so im trying 32bit mode
[03:47] <vacco> When I try booting my Ubuntu, I am only told that the boot sector of the disk is bad, and get to choose between pressing H to try booting from the HD again, or press anything else to try boot from floppy (which I don't have)
[03:47] <vacco> If I insert the Ubuntu CD, I can select to boot from first hard disk. THEN it works
[03:47] <vacco> Please help! :s
[03:47] <Lord_Pall> Maybe i should buy a hardware card
[03:47] <darkprophet> its more java and a few of my apps
[03:48] <troy_s> darkprophet: okie... well java is hardly a reason to avoid the power of 64bit.  but try installing the k7 kernel then.
[03:48] <orbin> x_o1: why do you need to set a path? how did you install rosegarden?
[03:48] <ry> can anyone say if wine works with amd64? the repository says "binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found"
[03:48] <darkprophet> troy_s: im a java game developer...i need java more than anything else :)
[03:48] <ry> x_o1, sudo apt-get install rosegarden
[03:49] <troy_s> darkprophet:  there is a 64bit edition of sun java, just no plugin for the browser.  that said, you caneasily emulate it using a 32bit firefox etc browser.
[03:49] <x_o1> orbin, ry:  I did that, but I installed from source and it is 9 months old.  I installed by hand, and I cannot figure out how to adjust the library path.  There is no /etc/ld.so.conf file like I would expect.
[03:49] <martyvis> Lord_Pall, this might be helpful - http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2003-July/008898.html
[03:49] <uXp> so does anyone know how to add a shutdown menu under applications?!
[03:49] <Toothpick> Is there work in progress to make ubuntu hd install into a livecd with autohardware configuration, like PCLINUXOS and SLAX have developed?
[03:49] <linux_user400354> how can i stop an x session and gdm?
[03:49] <linux_user400354> how can i stop an x session and gdm?
[03:49] <darkprophet> troy_s: i know...but it doesn't have java webstart and LWJGL doesn't work in linux64 yet
[03:49] <martyvis> Lord_Pall, it has been a long while since i played with sw raid, but it looks like it can be done
[03:49] <orbin> linux_user400354: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:50] <troy_s> darkprophet:  too bad.  what about pygame ;) until java turns opensource.
[03:50] <xgodsoul> We'll try a contest! the one who has the oldest computer (currently on it) wins! :)
[03:50] <intelikey> uXp which wm/desktop ?
[03:50] <vacco> Hasn't anybody experienced booting trouble with Ubuntu?
[03:50] <uXp> ubuntu
[03:50] <DaGr8Tim> IBM PII 400
[03:50] <darkprophet> troy_s: i wouldn't touch python with a shitty stick ;)
[03:50] <Lord_Pall> marty I'll do some more research for tomorrow. 8 hours of fighting with this is enough for the day
[03:50] <troy_s> darkprophet:  anyways, try that k7 kernel to cripple that poor procesor.
[03:50] <gavagai> i have a pii/400 next to me but i'm not on it
[03:50] <intelikey> never mind.
[03:50] <Lord_Pall> thanks fro the help though
[03:50] <Lord_Pall> much appreciated
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> Ultra 10, not on it atm though :(
[03:50] <xgodsoul> DaGR8Tim... daaamn! your currently on a P2 400?
[03:50] <x_o1> orbin, ry:  I just ran the standard installation of rosegarden, but it always takes running with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib to find the proper jack library.
[03:50] <MichaelG> vacco, I have, but my PC is having trouble reading the disk
[03:50] <adamant1988> Does anyone here play planeshift?
[03:50] <MichaelG> and i came here for any possible suggestions
[03:51] <gavagai> it has no external case, no cd drive
[03:51] <orbin> vacco: er, it could be a number of things....did you do a dual boot, or complete erase and install?
[03:51] <darkprophet> troy_s: k7 == smp ?
[03:51] <pyro> whats the command to open a txt file from terminal with write access...
[03:51] <xgodsoul> sudo
[03:51] <troy_s> darkprophet:  i told you, there is no smp kernel any more... they all shoudl be.
[03:51] <xgodsoul> sudo gedit something
[03:51] <vacco> I only have trouble booting from harddrive...
[03:51] <pyro> thx
[03:51] <MatthiasM> pyro: vi
[03:51] <uXp> so does anyone know how to add a shutdown menu under applications?!
[03:51] <troy_s> darkprophet:  that said, k7 is amd specific kernel.
[03:51] <will> hello :)
[03:51] <ry> x_o1, did you install jackd?
[03:51] <xgodsoul> hello will
[03:51] <orbin> MatthiasM: throw him in the deep end. nice :)
[03:51] <xgodsoul> will : how're you?
[03:51] <boelloesch> hi all
[03:51] <DaGr8Tim> I removed the stock installation of Firefox to install a newer version and couldn't.  Currently I'm running Firefox from a folder off of the home folder.  Is that going to give me any issues?
[03:51] <will> xchat wasnt released with dapper ... nice release btw!~
[03:51] <nul1> ok so here is the sound problem.  the integrated sound card on my optiplex didnt install with ubuntu.  So i turned it off in bios, then i installed a sound card and it recognized!  the volume control in the top right corner of the screen is now present and ajustable.  But i cant get any sound to play.  I tried a wav file from a floppy and a music file from a cd.  still nothing.  I get an error message that says, "could not get / set settings from 
[03:51] <will> gday xgodsoul good thankyou ... yourself
[03:52] <x_o1> ry:  Yes, I installed this as well from source.
[03:52] <MatthiasM> orbin: I used to hate vi - but on my embedded linux there is no space for a better editor
[03:52] <adamant1988> nul1 have you tried using alsa config?
[03:52] <xgodsoul> thanks, me too, will!
[03:52] <Kyral> MatthiasM: What about Vim?
[03:52] <nul1> no is that a terminal command?
[03:52] <cafuego> There is no better editor, so that's convenient.
[03:53] <troy_s> darkprophet:  in your current kernel run top then press '1'
[03:53] <Kyral> cafuego: Vim > Vi
[03:53] <troy_s> darkprophet: if it shows both cpus, you are in business.
[03:53] <adamant1988> nul1 also if you right click on the icon in the upper right hand corner you can open volume control... that should give you some options
[03:53] <MatthiasM> kyral: yes - it's vim in vi mode
[03:53] <RandolphCarter> Kyral: ls -l /etc/alternatives/vi
[03:53] <judith> where can I grab initng for ubuntu?
[03:53] <cafuego> Kyral: They're essentially the same
[03:53] <Kyral> RandolphCarter: no Ubuntu :P
[03:53] <will> are programs like avidemux released on the dvd ?
[03:53] <gavagai> cafuego, um, no.
[03:53] <Kyral> judith: from tarball?
[03:53] <cafuego> Kyral: (s)ed
[03:53] <darkprophet> troy_s: well, i just copied the config over and did sudo make menuconfig
[03:53] <nul1> those options seem ok
[03:53] <adamant1988> nul1 I don't know the command, but I know that sometimes it helps with sound issues... you'll have to be patient and ask about the commands for it.
[03:53] <cafuego> gavagai: um, yes
[03:53] <darkprophet> and its been compiled without SMP support
[03:54] <nul1> ?
[03:54] <troy_s> darkprophet:  well that MIGHT be the darn 386, try the k7 like i said.
[03:54] <nul1> commands?
[03:54] <nul1> you mean terminal commands?
[03:54] <bartel> is there any tricks involved with installing ubuntu on a MacBook?
[03:54] <adamant1988> nul1 if there is anything muted unmute it.  Put everything up to 50%
[03:54] <gavagai> cafuego, loco.
[03:54] <edneymatias> is there a way to install ubuntu from a running windows?
[03:54] <troy_s> darkprophet:  i run in 64bit mode, and all i can say is that by default i have all my procs working.  top then press number 1.
[03:54] <nul1> there is nothing muted
[03:54] <troy_s> darkprophet:  try the k7 and see if that triggers it.
[03:54] <Kyral> edneymatias: noper
[03:54] <harry> is there a free version of a software like the limewire???
[03:54] <xgodsoul> bartel, hem isn't the linux kernel made for the x86 architecture?
[03:54] <x_o1> Is there a way to add to the library path?  I don't see /etc/ld.so.conf?
[03:54] <troy_s> harry:  tons.
[03:54] <Kyral> harry: frostwire I THINK
[03:54] <adamant1988> ok... HEY can anyone explain how to do an alsaconfig to nul1?
[03:55] <bartel> xgodsoul: just wondering
[03:55] <uXp> so does anyone know how to add a shutdown menu under applications?!
[03:55] <xgodsoul> harry = there's one loading with breezy badger
[03:55] <adamant1988> I don't know the commands =\
    nutella is a good one
[03:55] <will> gnutella sorry
[03:55] <harry> will: just like limewire???
[03:55] <MatthiasM> lol
[03:55] <xgodsoul> bartel = I don't think natively... but if you take liek a x86 emulator.. you should be okay
[03:55] <harry> will: where can i find the nutella
[03:55] <harry> will: where can i find the nutella??
[03:55] <xgodsoul> harry: well the GUI may be different...
[03:55] <nul1> well i tried entering alsa config in the terminal and it does not recognize the command
[03:55] <ampamman> bartel: why would you buy a macbook to run ubuntu?
[03:55] <cafuego> harry: In the cupboard with the jam.
[03:55] <adamant1988> harry, frostwire is exactly like limewire
  not just like, takes a refresher course, but mostly just like it yes
[03:55] <xgodsoul> harry wall for GNutella... you need a front end... Gnutella is a network... not a software
[03:56] <kieranDOA> Ubuntu runs fine on intel macs
[03:56] <bartel> ampamman: graduation present... MacBook Pro
[03:56] <bartel> I want all three
[03:56] <AlienX> bartel, sweet!
[03:56] <kieranDOA> You just need to install bootcamp with the bios compatibility EFI modules.
[03:56] <harry> adamant1988: so i have to type sudo apt-get install frostwire???
[03:56] <bartel> :)
[03:56] <troy_s> bartel:  get amd bro.
[03:56] <carpediem> hmm, installing mythtv on a headless server gives a message about running mythtv-setup which requires X.  Who's idea was that? ;/
[03:56] <adamant1988> Uhm, I don't think it's in the repos
[03:56] <harry> adamant1988: to install frostwire
[03:56] <adamant1988> I downloaded a .deb for it.
[03:56] <darkprophet> troy_s: your right about 1 thing and wrong about another
[03:56] <MatthiasM> has someone experiance with running Ubuntu in vmware ?
    in your synaptic packkage manager, after enabling all the universe and multiiverse ... search for Gnutella      gnu-gnutella i think it is called
[03:56] <bartel> troy_s: yes, I have amd on my towers
[03:56] <spikeb> adamant1988: double click the frostwire deb
[03:56] <spikeb> adamant1988: and you can install it that way
[03:56] <linux_> How do i display fps wit glxgears>??
[03:57] <pyro> I'm trying to edit etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom ,  but I cant open it with write access.  I tried typing sudo gedit gdm.conf-custom
[03:57] <bartel> i've always been an OSX fan
[03:57] <ampamman> whatever, ubuntu = 1 guy getting 2 chicks
[03:57] <xgodsoul> harry : check in synaptics there's a P2P if I remember well
[03:57] <darkprophet> hahaha, hello MatthiasM
[03:57] <adamant1988> spikeb: I have it installed I was trying to tell harry
[03:57] <spikeb> oh
[03:57] <adamant1988> if someone could help him out
[03:57] <spikeb> lol
[03:57] <darkprophet> troy_s: the 386 doesn't come with SMP
[03:57] <xgodsoul> hahaha
[03:57] <spikeb> adamant1988: tell harry do download the deb and double click it
[03:57] <troy_s> bartel:  ick.  not really looking to the future with proprietary closed source operating systems.
[03:57] <martyvis> linux_, glxgears -printfps
[03:57] <RandolphCarter> darkprophet: for SMP use the linux-k7-smp package
[03:57] <ampamman> @_@
[03:57] <bartel> troy_s: well aware of that
[03:57] <troy_s> darkprophet:  which is what i suggested was possible way back.  try the k7
[03:57] <ali> how can i play .dat video in dapper?
[03:57] <bartel> i'm a huge foss advocate
[03:57] <pyro> I'm trying to edit etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom ,  but I cant open it with write access.  I tried typing sudo gedit gdm.conf-custom
[03:57] <adamant1988> I wish games came in .debs =\ I'm trying to get planeshift or any decent MMORPG
[03:57] <nul1> cafuego can you send me a private message please?
[03:57] <harry> spikeb: im already using dapper
   have you tried vlc media player
[03:58] <troy_s> darkprophet:  default kernels tend to pander to the lowest common denominator.
[03:58] <MatthiasM> darkprophet: i didn't want you to to feel lonely here ;)
[03:58] <harry> I'll  be back
[03:58] <adamant1988> anyone here play planeshift or any mmorpg?
[03:58] <adamant1988> preferably free...
[03:58] <ali> will: im downloading it now
[03:58] <darkprophet> MatthiasM: welcome to the semi-flood irc channel :)
[03:58] <linux_> 1072.427 FPS thats not to bad is it?
[03:58] <kieranDOA> bartel: Just install bootcamp and you should be away
[03:58] <troy_s> darkprophet:  yep... ubuntu is getting popular :)
[03:58] <xgodsoul> I play Anarchy Online, adamant1988
[03:58] <xgodsoul> :)
[03:58] <bartel> kieranDOA: cool, i thought so but wasn't sure
[03:59] <kieranDOA> bartel: http://cipherfunk.org/diary/archives/monthly/2006-04.html
[03:59] <adamant1988> xgodsoul is it any good? and is it free...
[03:59] <MatthiasM> troy_s: does it run in vmware ?
[03:59] <nul1> if someone can help me with a sound problem please send me an im
[03:59] <intelikey> linux_ na i get at least 12 fps  :)
[03:59] <darkprophet> troy_s: its doesn't do stuff by itself like suse does....suse is much better at autoconfig tho :)
[03:59] <troy_s> matthiasm:  the kernel?
[03:59] <kieranDOA> After installing bootcamp there should be no problem running any os as it installs the bios compatibility EFI modules.
[03:59] <MOSMarauder> hu sweeties.. problems...ATI Mobility (glfrx drivers) wont run after installing (used wiki for infos)
[03:59] <troy_s> darkprophet:  it does do a LOT by itself.  immediately supporting smp out of the box isn't exactly a smart move.
[03:59] <Master_Shake> How can I set my consoles to a different keymap?
[03:59] <xgodsoul> adamant1988 its free (well... supposed to be costly, but there a promotion, you can get the original game without expansions for free and play for free...
[03:59] <Master_Shake> Without needing to type loadkeys dvorak each time.
[03:59] <bartel> kieranDOA: perfect, thank you
[03:59] <will> anyone tried the MMORPG  "Lineage II"   ?
[04:00] <troy_s> darkprophet:  and if you can't type "sudo apt-get install mypreferredkernel" you probably won't benefit from SMP support :)
[04:00] <MatthiasM> troy_s: the distribution - does it has all driver needed ? I had trouble with Suse 10.1 to detect the DVD
[04:00] <xgodsoul> adamant1988 but they tell its only until 2007... but... well... 2/3 of the people on serv are on free accounts
[04:00] <darkprophet> troy_s: suse detects im running SMP, downloads latest SMP kernel and installs it
[04:00] <adamant1988> that's awesome, and I can run it without an emulator xgodsoul?
[04:00] <DerikOlsson> will: my friends have played it and like it a lot... I've never played it so I wouldn't know
[04:00] <darkprophet> anyways, brb, rebooting into new kernel :)
[04:00] <xgodsoul> hem... never tried on linux...
[04:00] <troy_s> matthiasm:  i run it and install it on every box i build.  that's all i can really say ;)
[04:00] <intelikey> nul1 no pm but i'll try to help.   does  cat /proc/asound/cards   show the correct card ?
[04:00] <troy_s> darkprophet:  great.  use suse then.
[04:00] <martyvis> Master_Shake, System:Pref:Keybaord perhaps?
[04:00] <xgodsoul> adamant1988 never tried on linux... only on win :S dont think wine can handle it...
 thanks man ... wondering whether to download the 2.3gb and play on free servers
[04:00] <troy_s> darkprophet:  i support ubuntu.  it is a cli away or click to add other kernel flavors.
[04:00] <MatthiasM> troy_s: thanks - I'll create a vm and test it
[04:01] <will> Ubuntu is my favourite Linux this far
[04:01] <troy_s> matthiasm:  it is truly a great distro.  it also shows users how limited some of the proprietary stuff is out there when you don't agree to eulas and such.
[04:01] <Mewshi> i'm having a trouble with my sd card reader, which just happens to be my mom's mp3 player.  it says that there's only around 128 MB on it, when it's a 1 GB card... any ideas?
[04:01] <MOSMarauder> darkproject: ubuntu dapper needs only metapackage linux-image-* for your matching CPU architucture. NO special SMP kernel aviable cuz all inside already
[04:01] <adamant1988> xgodsoul: no it's wintel only apparently... I guess planeshift is my best option.
[04:01] <troy_s> mewshi:  you might need to reformat it.
[04:01] <will> even over mandrake .... video codecs need downloading .. unlike mandrake but i like the whole OS better
[04:02] <troy_s> mosmarauder:  he left.  it was way too much apparently.
[04:02] <martyvis> Mewshi, maybe it reserves space for files and some for music?
[04:02] <kieranDOA> Is there any virtualisation stuff for ubuntu PPC? itd be nice to be able to run OS X inside ubuntu
[04:02] <MOSMarauder> ah k troy
[04:02] <Mewshi> there we go!
[04:02] <xgodsoul> adamant1988, sorry :S better luck next time :)... or program yourself one :D
[04:02] <Mewshi> damned hidden files >.<
[04:02] <DerikOlsson> any recommendations of pcmcia, usb, or firewire wireless cards that work with ubuntu easily?  (I'm one of the broadcom 4318 troubled folk)
[04:02] <MatthiasM> troy_s: is there also a DVD distribution ?
[04:02] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  what app do you need from osx?
[04:02] <adamant1988> xgodsoul: one day when I know some programming languages I'll work on projects like that.
[04:02] <troy_s> matthiasm:  yes.
[04:02] <troy_s> matthiasm:  cdimages.ubuntu.com methinks.
[04:03] <adamant1988> xgodsoul: but until then, I play what I can.
[04:03] <MOSMarauder> anyone with ATI drivers ?!? cannot get em running.... (DAPPER)
[04:03] <xgodsoul> hem.. i have a PCMCIA wireless from netgear... worked without any configuration / drivers needed, derikOlsson
[04:03] <kieranDOA> troy_s: non inpaticular, itd just be nice to be able to switch to and fro without rebooting.
[04:03] <adamant1988> MOSMarauder: I use ATI drivers
[04:03] <Mewshi> mosmarauder - they work fine for me
[04:03] <intelikey> will the whole OS ?    hehhe linux is linux is linux is linux   it's the addatives and preservatives that make the differance  :)
[04:03] <DerikOlsson> awesome thx xgodsoul
[04:03] <Flannel> MatthiasM: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/release/
[04:03] <adamant1988> MOSMarauder: try using easyubuntu to install them.
[04:03] <opitwin> Can the ubuntu pressed Cd's be burned by a regular CD burner or are they protected?
[04:03] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  well with apple's stance on DRM and proprietary closed source matters, it might be worth considering trying not to support them by using their os.
[04:03] <MatthiasM> Flannel: thanks - just found it
[04:03] <Flannel> opitwin: of course they can
[04:03] <martyvis> opitwin, all free
[04:04] <xgodsoul> adamant1988 heheh :) :) never too late to learn!
  :)   well thanks for enlightening me :)))     lets just say this gui beats mandrake
[04:04] <adamant1988> optiwin they're free, but I don't know why you'd burn copies when you can just get more from shipit :)
[04:04] <will> ;p
[04:04] <Flannel> opitwin: but, the "pressed CDs" you don't burn, but yeah, you can burn the ISOs on any burner
[04:04] <troy_s> optiwin:  LAF.  its open source.  software libre brother.
[04:04] <xgodsoul> derikOlsson np :)
[04:04] <martyvis> opitwin, identical to what you down,oad
[04:04] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Like what? You mean like iTunes DRM stuff? which they pretty much need so as not to get sued.
[04:04] <intelikey> opitwin this is opensource not M$
[04:04] <MOSMarauder> k so i installed the gl pack and changed ati in fglrx and rebooted afterwards ... then x won't start anymore (no screens..)
[04:04] <troy_s> optiwin:  you are ENCOURAGED to duplicate it.
[04:04] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Other than that i dont recall anything DRM in os x.
[04:04] <adamant1988> xgodsoul:  I intend to learn, I'm getting myself in position to start on C and C++
[04:04] <opitwin> Thank You very much, I guess I wasn't thinking
[04:04] <opitwin> Bye
[04:05] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  they might need to align with companies, support DRM, fool users into thinking mp3 is great compression, etc.  we don't.
[04:05] <MOSMarauder> adamant1988,  what is Easy ubuntu?
[04:05] <will> how do i add the option to right click a folder and open it with terminal ??
[04:05] <martyvis> MOSMarauder, !easyubuntu
[04:05] <kbrooks> there is no such thing as a "protected ISO"
[04:05] <martyvis> !easyubuntu
[04:05] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:05] <MOSMarauder> !easyubuntu
[04:05] <adamant1988> MOSMarauder: it's a script that will automatically install drivers and codecs for you. #easyubuntu
[04:05] <xgodsoul> adamant1988 hehe :P mmorpg in C++... hum! I don't think anyone on earth can handle this kind of project alone... even with really good and powerful graphic / sound and engine SDK
   <adamant1988>    thankyou .... i could do it in breezy ...        :)
[04:06] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Not saying we do, but my point is, iTunes music store is the only thing i can thing of that has DRM, other than that i consider it to be a good os.
[04:06] <MOSMarauder> does that scriip also run in terminal mode 
[04:06] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  the devil is in the details.  I just buy cd's and flac em
[04:06] <adamant1988> haha xgodsoul I have to start somewhere...
[04:06] <martyvis> MOSMarauder, uses a GUI
[04:06] <xgodsoul> adamant1988 :D with hopes! we all start with hopes :) and then with a *Hello World* program :D
[04:07] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  the downside of supporting apple is at least as bad as supporting ms.  the future depends on people taking stands.
[04:07] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Which is exactly what i do, i dont use ITMS
[04:07] <MOSMarauder> martyvis, fine.gui is not running *G*
[04:07] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  yah i know... and i applaud you 100%.
[04:07] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  in fact, more than perhaps your average open source user -- you actively chose to educate yourself and use an open source alternative.  which is darn incredible.
[04:07] <ampamman> lolol
[04:08] <animepunkw> I'm tryign to run any2dvd .. but i need to install multimux .. i have downloaded it , but have no idea how to install multimux.
[04:08] <intelikey> troy_s it is ???
[04:08] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Yes, i get your point, But with the multimedia industry as it is, the fact is DRM is going to happen anyway, Whether apple/ms/aunt nelly likes it or not.
[04:08] <troy_s> intelikey:  yeah for most folks who own motorola or ibm powered apples... i would say it is.
[04:08] <Master_Shake> ubotu, fglrx
[04:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[04:08] <intelikey> i just assumed that anyone living in open source space for a while would do that.
[04:09] <kieranDOA> troy_s: And i have no choice but use OS X, since i have to for school apps.
[04:09] <krazykit> ugh.  all my videos look messed up.  using mplayer, using xv, video will suddenly look completely messed up.  xine does the same thing using the xv video driver.  using the x11 output, it looks fine, but it's a rather annoying problem.  restarting X tends to fix it but it shouldn't be happening in the first place
[04:09] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  DRM is pointless.  has been pointless since the ever secure 8 track ;)
[04:09] <x_o1> kieranDOA, troy_s:  Academic podcasting will be damaged by iTunes U as well, I blog about it here:  http://webcastinabox.com/openminded.
[04:09] <MOSMarauder> I already installed Driver by DOKUMERNTATION / german Dapper wiki
[04:09] <MOSMarauder> not working
[04:09] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  streaming.  i don't know what a pod is.  ;)
[04:09] <xgodsoul> kieranDOA->run OSX in emulation :D
[04:09] <psychiccyberfrea> I need some help- after I upgraded to dapper ndiswrapper stopped working
[04:09] <krazykit> kieranDOA: if you're on a PPC mac, check out MOL, the mac on linux project
[04:10] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  what school apps -- i would be pretty pissed if an academic institution forced me to use a particular operating system for a computer.  just a thought...
[04:10] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Pointless maybe, But you try getting multimedia companies to drop it.
[04:10] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  working on it.  i work in the film industry.
[04:10] <xgodsoul> troy_s -> I agree :P
[04:10] <animepunkw> how do i install multimux-0.2.4 ?
[04:10] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  we can only be as strong as we are united.
[04:10] <kieranDOA> troy_s: FirstClass for starters, Then theres apple works which as yet i havent found a single open source office suite that can open AppleWorks files.
[04:11] <x_o1> kieranDOA:  I wonder if GoBE Live can do that, it was founded by the same guys which used to work at ClarisWorks.  I should know, I used to be a part of that team as well.
[04:11] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Yeah maybe, and as much as i support OSS, We're a minority, the average joe doesnt care about open/closed source, drm or any of the like.
[04:11] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys..just switched from Suse 10.  Is there any way to encypt the Home directory like in Suse?  or make/mount encrypted folders?
[04:12] <intelikey> kieranDOA abiword   no?
[04:12] <darkprophet> troy_s: FPS == 1200 now :)
[04:12] <darkprophet> SMP did affect it
[04:12] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  really?  funny -- i told some non open source knoweldgeable audiophiles about teh downside of mp3 and they switched overnight
[04:12] <darkprophet> but would ya listen to me...noooooooooo! :P
[04:12] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  i think ultimately it is simply education.
[04:12] <MatthiasM> darkprophet: did you test with -server ?
[04:12] <troy_s> darkprophet:  woop!
[04:12] <harry> I've installed frostwire but i couldnt install it
[04:12] <darkprophet> MatthiasM: yup
[04:12] <darkprophet> excellent
[04:12] <kieranDOA> troy_s: What about the benifits of MP3 as it stands at the moment?
[04:13] <troy_s> darkprophet:   i guess we are in the same boat then, i said try k7 and you didn't listen to that earlier ;)  just poking.
[04:13] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  there are none.
[04:13] <darkprophet> troy_s: hehehe...agreed :)
[04:13] <kieranDOA> troy_s: For the average user there is.
[04:13] <harry> I've installed frostwire but i couldnt use it
[04:13] <harry> I've installed frostwire but i couldnt use it
[04:13] <xgodsoul> harry = install what
[04:13] <harry> frost wire
[04:13] <xgodsoul> harry : ohh use it
[04:13] <xgodsoul> harry why?
[04:13] <intelikey> "<harry> I've installed frostwire but i couldnt install it"  <---- is that an oximoron ?
[04:13] <xgodsoul> harry whats happenning?
[04:13] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  as opposed to say, ogg???
[04:13] <xgodsoul> hahahahahah :) intelikey :)
[04:13] <ali> when i try to install libdvdcss2 i get this error: Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:14] <ali> how can i install it?
[04:14] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  it isn't much of an argument other than quality and education.
[04:14] <harry> intelikey: i'm just out of my mind.
[04:14] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Its convenient. Cd's atleast in the uk are stupid prices (even though i put up and buy for quality and freedom).
[04:14] <x_o1> troy_s, kieranDOA:  mp3 does work in web browsers which have flash (supposedy 90%+), which you cannot say about any other formats.
[04:14] <xgodsoul> FLAC is owning every lossfull media compression :) even OGG :D
[04:14] <harry> xgodsoul: i succesfully installed it following the wiki. but i couldnt run it
[04:14] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Especially as apposed to ogg.
[04:14] <zByte> anyone had a problem trying to run a ubuntu live CD from their system with dual monitors?
[04:14] <intelikey> harry it just struck me funny,  sorry for the comment.     what error you getting ?
[04:15] <xgodsoul> harry what happens when you try to run it? just nothing? or somethings is written?
[04:15] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Mp3 is practically an industry standard, Almost every hi-fi, car stereo, dvd player, portable audo player and god knows what else plays mp3's
[04:15] <krazykit> xgodsoul: actually, wavpack has a slightly better compression ratio, but it's not well supported in linux yet, despite being FOSS.
[04:15] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  you totally lost me.
[04:15] <kieranDOA> Where as only a handful of devices support ogg.
[04:15] <hareem> hi
[04:15] <harry> intelikey: no problem, i also laughed at myself. i dont know what was i thinking
[04:15] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  it is patent laden.  flac is patent free.  gee... money and legal fees versus nothing.
[04:15] <harry> xgodsoul: nothing happend
[04:15] <mips> pessoal o synaptic ta acusando dois pacotes quebrados, como ajeitar isso?
[04:15] <pyro> what is the best / easiest vpn software to use?
[04:16] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  mp3 is hardly standard, and look at how many portable players support ogg and flac now.
[04:16] <hareem> folks tell me something. Is there any way that i can implement Ubuntu into my cyber cafe
[04:16] <gavagai> if i wanted to buy some cheap videocard that will work easily/well with ubuntu, what should i look at?  some old/low-end nvidia stuff?  i just want to be able to watch high quality video
[04:16] <zByte>  fodes caraido
[04:16] <spikeb> yes. about four players
[04:16] <xgodsoul> krazykit :) hehe :P but ... well.. perhaps just because i'm used to FLAC... i'll give a try to wavpack ;) thanks for the notice!
[04:16] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Not even a fraction of the amount of devices that support mp3
[04:16] <mips> qndo eu dei um sudo apt-get -f  install deu erro
[04:16] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  further still, high end audio supports flac usually out of box.
[04:16] <nightcoder> hareem: yes
[04:16] <pyro> VPN software, whats the best to use ?
[04:16] <mjbjr> Anyone here running ubuntu on a fairly new computer system that you _bought_ in the last 4 months... and it runs ubuntu straight out of the box with no problems... I'm looking for brand and model _recomendations_ .
[04:16] <hareem> how
[04:16] <hareem> can i do that
[04:16] <xgodsoul> harry : hem... nothing hapend.... I can't help you... you click on the software and nothing comes?
[04:16] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  not worth supporting something just cuz it is there.  if that were the case, everyone should be running windows with more of us on the way.  it takes time for change.  time and education.
[04:16] <spikeb> mjbjr: www.system76.com
[04:16] <intelikey> harry any time an app fails to start try starting it in a terminal to see what the error message is,   and use tab completion to help get the right command.
[04:16] <troy_s> pyro:  ssh
[04:17] <nightcoder> hareem: have you installed ubuntu in each machine ?
[04:17] <x_o1> mips:  sudo apt-get --fix-broken?
[04:17] <mjbjr> spikeb: thanks
[04:17] <harry> xgodsoul: u got that right
[04:17] <spikeb> mjbjr: use them as a basis for what to get, if you dont want to order directly from them
[04:17] <krazykit> xgodsoul: i don't know of any players other than MAYBE xmms that play wavpack.
[04:17] <hareem> but then how would the admin control the cafe
[04:17] <kieranDOA> troy_s: I agree its purely education, but you cant expect someone to go out and buy a new dvd player, hi-fi, car stereo, portable media player and everything else.
[04:17] <xgodsoul> harry : i can't help you :S sorry!
[04:17] <nightcoder> hareem: ahhh
[04:17] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  keep your 8 tracks then.  time and education :)
[04:18] <hareem> yeah i did install ubuntu on every machine
[04:18] <harry> intelikey: "it says to You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com"
[04:18] <nightcoder> hareem: I think that in repos has a program to do it ...
[04:18] <kieranDOA> troy_s: I agree, i would rather have my audio in FLAC, but the fact is, devices that support FLAC/ogg are still in the minority
[04:18] <intelikey> harry there you go.  jre
[04:18] <dou213> hey guys, does wmplayer come with ubuntu?
[04:18] <intelikey> !jre
[04:18] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[04:18] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  most of the coolest ones support flac.  and if you make a mistake and buy and ipod, put a new firmware on it.
[04:18] <intelikey> !java
[04:18] <nightcoder> hareem: but I cant remember name
[04:18] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[04:18] <xgodsoul> krazykit :well... if it's a lossless media compression filetype, it's worth checking :) i'm musician (pianist) and for shows and things like that, I can't just playback a lossy mp3 through speakers :P
[04:18] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Infact i think i could find about 4 portable audio players which support flac without a modified firmware. and i own one of them
[04:18] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  there _are_ options in most circumstances.
[04:18] <harry> intelikey: whats with jre?? i dont know it
[04:18] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  like i said, i applaud you.  but there is lots of work to be done.
[04:18] <intelikey> java runtime env
[04:19] <xgodsoul> krazykit : so i'll try wavpak :) wavs are toooo unconveinients for transport....
  what do you suggest over mp3 ?
[04:19] <animepunkw> how do i install multimux-0.2.4 ? i need it to get any2dvd working
[04:19] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  now i must go get some pasta for family to eat.  laf.  nice chat though brother.  keep up the good work.
[04:19] <krazykit> xgodsoul: then unless you have 100+ gigs of FLAC, it probably wouldn't be worth going with wavpack
[04:19] <intelikey> harry see ubotu ^
[04:19] <hareem> nightcoder should implement ubuntu server as well
[04:19] <kieranDOA> troy_s: And i support that fully, And push what i can, but to say that we're not in a minority is...well, i cant think of a word.
[04:19] <harry> intelikey: how??/
[04:19] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Great discussion, enjoy your meal :-)
[04:19] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  we are in the resistance.
[04:19] <xgodsoul> will : depends on what you want to do with it... for listening on your home speaker system, mp3 or OGG is probably perfect, if the files are well encoded
[04:20] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  laf.  hopefully we can get our pamphlets into enough hands to encourage a bit of a coup.
[04:20] <psychiccyberfrea> Can anyone help me with a wireless problem?
[04:20] <di> hi, i get a kernel panic (attempted to kill init) when i try to boot into the amd64 livecd on an amd turion
[04:20] <intelikey> harry  you got the pm's from the bot use them./
[04:20] <will> yay for sound juicer :)
[04:20] <xgodsoul> krazykit: hehe :P :) but it's nice to know other types, like that in the future, I will know the possibilities :P thanks!
[04:20] <SurfnKid> How do you read a Memo?
[04:21] <imagery> I explained my problem here since its a bit long. http://pastebin.ca/64045 any pointers greatly appreciated, I'd rather not do a reinstall every time I add/remove a HD
[04:21] <SurfnKid> !memo
[04:21] <ubotu> SurfnKid: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:21] <krazykit> xgodsoul: but yeah, as far as lossless formats go, flac is the best supported, and i encode all my music with flac.  it's quite good
[04:21] <xgodsoul> will : But if you need a lossless media format you will prefer goin on flac or wavpack (krazykit just told me about this one hehe :P)...
[04:21] <SurfnKid> guys how can i read a memo in irc
[04:21] <xgodsoul> krazykit :) thats why I like it, and use it :D
[04:21] <krazykit> will: abcde is a nice cd ripper/encoder fronted
[04:22] <krazykit> SurfnKid: memo?  what?
[04:22] <hareem> anyone know the repos name that will allow ubuntu to be setup in a cyber cafe enviroment
    :_)))
[04:22] <intelikey> harry now you know    SOP click does nothing, open a term and type.  read error consult the wiki, maybe even search,  then ask in here.
[04:22] <xgodsoul> a mamo in irc?
[04:22] <xgodsoul> memo?
[04:23] <made> hello all..
[04:23] <earthen> NickServ IDENTIFY <thorthor>
[04:23] <di> hi, i get a kernel panic (attempted to kill init) when i try to boot into the amd64 livecd on an amd turion
[04:23] <xgodsoul> how're you made?
[04:23] <made> I have a gaim question about the installation of gaim 2.0.0 beta 3
[04:24] <made> why thank you fine sir.. I'm great
[04:24] <xgodsoul> gaim 2.0.0 beta 3... I would need to install that, too.. ;)
[04:25] <intelikey> pfft about avarage.
[04:25] <made> bots?
[04:25] <krazykit> xgodsoul and made: there's a deb around.
[04:25] <hareem> any one know how to setup ubuntu in cyber cafe enviroment/mode
[04:25] <made> krazykit: I found the deb and it can't make or find dependencies.. so I gave up on them..
[04:25] <will> i have looked at easyubuntu, and i cant seem to see a way to open a folder in terminal
[04:26] <xgodsoul> krazykit not in synaptics heh ? :) would find in in the ubuntu comunity, the gaim developping website or on google?
[04:26] <krazykit> it's on the forums.
[04:26] <made> xgodsoul: you have to download the source
[04:26] <xgodsoul> thanks krazykits
[04:26] <xgodsoul> ;)
[04:26] <ToHellWithGA> made: iirc gaim was not hard to build from source
[04:26] <hareem> any one know how to setup ubuntu in cyber cafe enviroment/mode
[04:26] <di> hi, i get a kernel panic (attempted to kill init) when i try to boot into the amd64 livecd on an amd turion
[04:27] <xgodsoul> any Quebecois in here? :)
[04:27] <five_linux> dangit... is there a way to install ubuntu 6.06 without having it run X and do the new installation stuff?
[04:27] <ToHellWithGA> maddler: you could just uninstall the default gaim then download the source and build the new gaim.  if you do ./configure, make, sudo checkinstall then you can even remove it at a later date
[04:27] <vook> test
[04:27] <spikeb> five_linux: yes
[04:27] <earthen> xgodsoul,  yup
[04:27] <Flannel> five_linux: you mean like an upgrade?
[04:27] <ToHellWithGA> test vook
[04:27] <Flannel> five_linux: or a textmode installer?
[04:27] <five_linux> textmode installer
[04:27] <will> can i delete the downloaded files from synaptic after they have been installed??   to free up HD space ?
[04:27] <intelikey> di eeek   what error with the panic ?
[04:27] <hareem> any one know how to setup ubuntu in cyber cafe enviroment/mode
[04:27] <vook> does anyone know the password for root for ubuntu install?  sudo is giving me "cannot execute binary file"
[04:27] <five_linux> didn't see that option in the cd boot menu
[04:27] <made> I do a 'sudo make' then a good ole 'sudo checkinstall -D make install' and I recieve 'sudo: checkinstall: command not found'
[04:27] <di> attemped to kill init i think
[04:27] <Flannel> five_linux: the alternative CD is the old textmode installer, but you CAN upgrade via apt from an older version
[04:27] <intelikey> will sure
[04:28] <Master_Shake> I'd like to set my ttys to be the Dvorak keyboard layout by default.
[04:28] <ToHellWithGA> made: you must apt-get install checkinstall
[04:28] <earthen> xgodsoul, but I don't speak french much :(
[04:28] <xgodsoul> earthen : pour vrai? haha!
[04:28] <Master_Shake> I haven't been able to find any documentation does anyone know?
[04:28] <intelikey> will sudo apt-get clean
[04:28] <made> ohh .. duh.. hehe
  ahh :))  thankyou
[04:28] <xgodsoul> earthen : oooh :P a quebequer that doesn't speaks french? :) montreal?
[04:28] <ToHellWithGA> and i usually do "sudo checkinstall" without other options.  what is "-D make install"?
[04:28] <di> intelikey: does it have to do with amd64/
[04:28] <martyvis> hareem, explain what you mean - the cybercafes i see do everything on their pcs
[04:28] <di> ?
[04:28] <wrx> hi can someone help me with ATI Radeon driver install?
[04:28] <five_linux> i'm looking to install the server edition tho
[04:29] <SurfnKid> man this is annoying, i cant get apt get to update
[04:29] <wrx> i followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:29] <five_linux> can you do textmode install  with the server edition?
[04:29] <earthen> xgodsoul, no I live way up on the lower North Shore way up past Sept-Iles
[04:29] <wrx> but i dont understand this part: Under Section "Screen" The Identifier line needs to be changed to:
[04:29] <wrx>      Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] "
[04:29] <MOSMarauder> wrx: no they refer u only to the wiki witch indeed not works for all this way
[04:29] <hareem> well can ubuntu be used in a cafe enviroment. Client server. Like i can bump off users after their time is finished. etc
[04:29] <xgodsoul> earthen!!!!!!!!!!!! and you're having internet?
[04:29] <intelikey> di i dont know, what reason did it give other than trying to kill init....   what preceeded that ?
[04:29] <earthen> xgodsoul, the most eastern point in the province
[04:29] <xgodsoul> earthen: and... you're using linux?
[04:29] <hareem> basically, can i use ubuntu instead of having to buy XP server for about $ 6000.
[04:29] <earthen> xgodsoul, yeah I have 2way satillete internet
[04:29] <martyvis> hareem, sure - but you will probably need to write/obtain some scripts to do this
[04:30] <Kyral> hareem: as a server OS?
[04:30] <xgodsoul> earthen : you're the eastest geek of all america :D:D:D
[04:30] <Kyral> why not?
[04:30] <intelikey> hareem indeed.
[04:30] <five_linux> can you do textmode install  with the server edition?
[04:30] <wrx> MOSMarauder, then how?
[04:30] <vook> hehe, dapper is out and this channel is alive.  Of course.  root password for dapper install, so I can su - , anyone?
[04:30] <hareem> well how. I installed ubuntu desktop on all of the cafe pc
[04:30] <di> intelikey: i forgot... sorry
[04:30] <krazykit> vook: sudo.
[04:30] <earthen> xgodsoul, yeah started using Linux when I wen to Unuversity in Lennoxville Quebes near Shearbrook
[04:30] <MarcN> five_linux: yes, I did.
[04:30] <harry> intelikey: i'm having a hard time with frostwire
[04:30] <Kyral> vook: Its the same as it was in Dapper :P
[04:30] <MOSMarauder> wrx, dunno yet still working on the same thinggy
[04:30] <five_linux> MarcN:  how?
[04:30] <earthen> xgodsoul, your prpbably right there LOL
[04:31] <Kyral> hareem: I can actually prolly write up the script conceptually
[04:31] <vook> krazykit : i'm getting cannot execute binary file"
[04:31] <di> intelikey: mabye its not synching
[04:31] <earthen> xgodsoul, sorry for my bad typing
[04:31] <MarcN> five_linux: press the 'extra options or such' F6? and add 'text' to the list of kernel options.
[04:31] <five_linux> ah thank you
[04:31] <vook> Kyral: sudo bash fails.
[04:31] <krazykit> vook: what, doing `sudo command`?
[04:31] <vook> krazykit: sudo anything
[04:31] <Kyral> vook: do sudo -i
[04:31] <hareem> i thought that if i install ubuntu server as well. The systems would actually connect to each other. Problem solved. But this becomes more complex
[04:32] <xgodsoul> earthen : Niiiiice :) :P and.... you wanted to leave the city and live peacefully far from urban zones so you went up sept-iles?
[04:32] <earthen> xgodsoul, what part of the province are you from?
[04:32] <xgodsoul> earthen : its np :)
[04:32] <xgodsoul> earthen : quebec, region, from quebec, city, from quebec, province :D
[04:32] <wrx> there are two sections called Screen in my xorg.conf
[04:32] <xgodsoul> earthen : So i live in quebec, which is in quebec, wich is in quebec ;D
[04:32] <wrx> so which one am i to modify!
[04:32] <earthen> xgodsoul, no I'm actully from here, i'm now working for the school board up here
[04:32] <intelikey> di normally 'trying to kill init' means that init opened as a shell and you are now exiting that shell   the initrd.img can do that but normally the preceeding text to the panic helps understand what is happening.   try to boot with appended quiet=off and verbos  maybe...
[04:32] <xgodsoul> earthen :) hehe nice!
[04:33] <vook> krazykit, Kryal, same "cannot execute binary file".  It's amd64, on an amd64, so I don't get it.  everything else works,  Perhaps its a bad burn.
[04:33] <martyvis> xgodsoul, earthen - private mgs?
[04:33] <earthen> xgodsoul, I'm so confused!!!!! LOL
[04:33] <hareem> same here
[04:33] <xgodsoul> martyvis :S sorry...
[04:33] <hareem> lol
[04:33] <xgodsoul> hahah
[04:33] <di> intelikey: thanks...
[04:33] <earthen> doh!
[04:34] <made> wowsers I got it running.. thx for all the lil bit-o-help
[04:34] <intelikey> harry did you install the java packages that the bot told you about?
[04:34] <hareem> ok i got ubuntu on all the cafe's pc's . So how the heck would i get admin privilages setup etc. like create user accounts that i can remotely log off
[04:34] <martyvis> hareem, basically you want to setup a admin account on your desktops and ssh into them
[04:34] <martyvis> you can then run any command you want
[04:35] <_Luks> xD
[04:35] <intelikey> di also hit the f keys and see if there is a boot option for your hardware.  i haven't yet gotten the cd's so i'll have to shoot in the dark a bit longer.
[04:35] <MarcN> hareem: what martyvis said, but if you want them to do admin functions, add them to the sudoers file (use visudo)
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> hareem, there is also some program out there in the repos that allows you to "push" packages to all at once
[04:35] <SCmark> when I start my computer my audio is muted.  How can I boot with a specific volume level?
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> i.e. run same command across all them
[04:35] <xgodsoul> earthen : I think the PM's doesn't work ? :S
[04:35] <earthen> xgodsoul, ok I was trying
[04:36] <hareem> but then how would i be able to stop users from installing more stuff and how can i give them access to my printer
[04:36] <jighead> has anyone had openoffice apps crashing on launch with a fresh install?
[04:36] <earthen> xgodsoul, but nothin comming up
[04:36] <di> intelikey: hmm... ill try that if my sis lets me use her laptop to install ubuntu...
[04:36] <martyvis> jighead, no
[04:36] <xgodsoul> earthen : me too :) hehe
[04:36] <xgodsoul> earthen : but I must go... time to sleep :)
[04:36] <xgodsoul> ciao everybody!
[04:36] <hareem> but then how would i be able to stop users from installing more stuff and how can i give them access to my printer
[04:36] <gavagai> hareem, why would that allow them to install anything?
[04:36] <earthen> xgodsoul, heay me too f1 on earlt tomarrow
[04:37] <intelikey> di yeah normally there are some help pages avalable at the boot prompt  f1  to start with.
[04:37] <nf4> is there a sun-java-5 plugin for firefox
[04:37] <SCmark> any idea how to not boot my computer muted?
[04:37] <hareem> well if they have admin accounts. Cant they just download stuff of the net and install it onto ubuntu
[04:37] <earthen> nf4, yes
[04:37] <gavagai> hareem, you don't give them the admin account you give them a mere user account... YOU use the admin account
[04:37] <intelikey> nf4 apt-cache search is your friend.
[04:37] <martyvis> hareem, privs are determined by what group users are in
[04:38] <nf4> is it in the daper 64 respitorys
[04:38] <intelikey> nf4 apt-cache search java
[04:38] <Healot> nf4: sun-java5-jre has it
[04:38] <gavagai> you can write a script to boot them after 30 minutes, 60 minutes, whatever
[04:38] <hareem> oh. thats good. So i dont need to setup the ubuntu server
[04:38] <earthen> nf4, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[04:38] <nf4> i have sun-java5-jre installed
[04:38] <gavagai> you don't even need any controlling server or anything, you could just have your own pc that runs scripts to control the other standalone pcs... i'm just thinking out loud
[04:39] <nf4> blackdown seems to crash firefox
[04:39] <boelloesch> MUZAC [02-BrainDeath]  - (4:08/320kbps) NORDIC POWER RULEZ
[04:39] <nf4> but not any other browser
[04:39] <martyvis> hareem, ideally when your users login they get their priveleges from a central LDAP server
[04:39] <earthen> nf4, your 64bit ubuntu or 32?
[04:39] <nf4> 64
[04:39] <jighead> nf4, if you have mulitverse enabled, and search for java, you will find the plugin
[04:39] <martyvis> you would use this to determine what they can and can't do
[04:40] <intelikey> hareem i haven't been paying a lot of attention to your questions, but; it looks like you need to study the basics of how linux works.   most of your querries seem to be about basic linux functionality.
[04:40] <martyvis> hareem, you prolly don't want to be hacking on individial desktops to assign privs
[04:40] <hareem> so what should i do. See i dont to pay microsoft through the nose. They charge $6000 thats alot of mollah
[04:40] <five_linux> MarcN: that doesn't seem to work.  is there a specific place i'm supposed to be putting it in that string?  cause I just add "text" to the end of the string that appears
[04:40] <jighead> nf4, i was wrong, the plugin isn't in the 64 repos
[04:40] <nf4> i had some one here last night look at my respitory and they said that it was fine and that i had the right ones enabled but i still cant find it
[04:40] <nf4> oh thanks
[04:40] <earthen> nf4, this is a good site for basic stuff http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[04:40] <nf4> i didnt think i was doing any thing worng
[04:40] <MarcN> five_linux: I think I put it before the -- (and replaced splash)
[04:40] <gavagai> hareem, the short answer is it is easy and free to do with linux, but you need to get some fundamental linux concepts first
[04:40] <hareem> then how can i remotely log them off
[04:40] <gavagai> like intelikey said
[04:40] <martyvis> hareem, like intelikey said managing linux beyond a single user isn't trivial
[04:41] <chzh> ?
[04:41] <nf4> its odd to me that mozilla works fine but firefox crashes
[04:41] <intelikey> hareem gavagai concures with what i just told you.
[04:41] <hareem> so what should i do. Im open to suggestions
[04:41] <earthen> nf4, i just used that site to install java and the plugin not more than 5 mins ago so I know it works
[04:41] <nf4> i think that this isnt a java issue at all
[04:41] <intelikey> !cli
[04:41] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[04:41] <intelikey> start there maybe ^
[04:41] <nf4> sweet thanks
[04:42] <vook> ug, when are the ubuntu people going to realize that we don't want some stupid windows'esk startup sound.  my only complaint mind you.
[04:42] <gavagai> hareem, first you should learn about remotely controlling a linux machine, like with SSH and the commandline.  that's where i'd start.  because you seemed to think that each computer can only have one user logged in at a time.
[04:42] <intelikey> hareem book mark those sites  :)
[04:43] <Bassetts> HI, how come i have enabled multiverse and universe but cant get any packages from them?
[04:43] <earthen> anyone know how to change the clock from 24 hour to 12 hour
[04:43] <martyvis> hareem, ssh remotepc "logout user"
[04:43] <Bassetts> i get told that the package does not exist
[04:43] <hareem> that shouldn't be hard
[04:43] <jighead> earthen, the gnome clock? right click Preferences
[04:43] <earthen> Bassetts, did you do apt-get update first
[04:44] <Bassetts> yes earthen
[04:44] <martyvis> hareem, you should have admin accounts on your desktops to do this
[04:44] <intelikey> earthen last time i checked a right click revieled that answer
[04:44] <Flashq009> I just downloaded ubuntu 6 iso image.  can someone please tell me or give me website that shows/tells how to do install it.  thanks.
[04:44] <earthen> jighead, man I've been looking for hours and you come in and tell me that it's so simple I feel like a idoit!
[04:44] <hareem> ok. so i make admin accounts on my pc and all the others. And simply use ssh to log off people
[04:45] <intelikey> ubuntu 6      hmmmm
[04:45] <hareem> so how can i share my printer with them
[04:45] <lwizardl> where is the hosts file on ubuntu?
[04:45] <earthen> Bassetts, does it fail on any when you did update
[04:46] <intelikey> lwizardl /etc
[04:46] <martyvis> hareem, you need to add the printer share on the desktops, and make sure users have privelge to use this
[04:46] <lwizardl> so /etc/hosts
[04:46] <five_linux> ugh ...
[04:46] <Bassetts> not earthen
[04:46] <intelikey> use the tab key
[04:46] <Bassetts> no*
[04:46] <hareem> ok thats great
[04:46] <hareem> pretty much solved my problem. thanks for the help guys
[04:46] <earthen> Bassetts, could you past me your sources list
[04:47] <gavagai> hareem, you're welcome.  when do we get our share of the profits?
[04:47] <gavagai> :)
[04:47] <hareem> can i bug you guys latter in a while if im stuck between  a rock and some place
[04:47] <earthen> Bassetts, no in here btw
[04:47] <lonegeek> how can i reconfigure mouse.....
[04:47] <nf4> if i have bit torrent installed and i restart is the list of things that it is shutting down suspossed to say something about shutting down torrent tracker
[04:47] <intelikey> hareem please do check those pages out
[04:47] <nf4> i thought trackers were servers
[04:47] <five_linux> ugh
[04:47] <Bassetts> earthen: http://rafb.net/paste/results/HPeqdS82.html
[04:47] <hareem> i will surely consult those pages
[04:47] <five_linux> is there nothing in the wiki about how to do a non-graphical installation of ubuntu 6.06?
[04:48] <Bassetts> =) i knoe not to paste large things in irc =)
[04:48] <Drakonik> I've already uninstalled amaroK, but I'm still seeing it in the context menu when I right-click a muic file.
[04:48] <lonegeek> i messed up mouse settings in xorg.conf   whats command that lets you go through all that stuff?
[04:48] <intelikey> five_linux non-graphical  are you out of your mind?    oh sorry.....
[04:48] <ron_> five_linux alternate install cd
[04:49] <five_linux> ron_: server edition is what i want
[04:49] <ron_> oh
[04:49] <ron_> :/
[04:49] <five_linux> but this stupid graphical isntaller hangs on me all the time and its frigging slow
[04:49] <gavagai> five_linux, this is neither good advice nor a recommendation, but if you're stuck you can do a minimal server install of breezy and then upgrade to 6.06, all with text interface...  only takes a bit longer
[04:49] <harry> how do i get to install easy_install to dapperdrake
[04:49] <blanky> harry, easy_install? you mean easyubuntu or automatic?
[04:49] <blanky> *automatix
[04:50] <harry> blanky: easy_install
[04:50] <blanky> !ati
[04:50] <ubotu> ati is probably http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[04:50] <harry> blanky: i'm trying to install turbogears
[04:50] <blanky> !mp3
[04:50] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:50] <blanky> !tell harry about mp3
[04:50] <earthen> Bassetts, looks ok
[04:50] <Bassetts> =( ok
[04:50] <earthen> Bassetts, what are you trying to download
[04:51] <Bassetts> flash and java
[04:51] <Flashq009> How do I install ubuntu 6  from iso?
[04:51] <harry> blanky: http://www.turbogears.org/preview/download/nix.html#ezsetup
[04:51] <blanky> harry, hold on
[04:51] <hareem> you burn the iso to disk
[04:51] <IcemanV9> !tell Flashq009 about install
[04:51] <hareem> and then install the contents
 that fire fox plugin guide failed
[04:52] <blanky> !wiki
[04:52] <earthen> Bassetts, go here use ther sources list http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[04:52] <nf4> said that it si referred to by another program
[04:52] <blanky> !wiki
[04:52] <nf4> or something
[04:52] <hareem> use slysoft clone cd to do this
[04:52] <five_linux> i'll just install an older version of 6.0x
[04:52] <earthen> nf4, what failed
[04:52] <five_linux> and update
[04:52] <blanky> !wiki atibinarydriverhowto
[04:52] <blanky> !beaner
[04:52] <ubotu> blanky: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:52] <Bassetts> ok earthen, ty
[04:53] <blanky> harry, what's your problem with installing it?
[04:53] <harry> does ubuntu dapperdrake 6.06 already supports mp3 formats???
[04:53] <ron_> no
[04:53] <harry> blanky: did u see the one with the ez_setup.py
[04:53] <martyvis> !tell harry about mp3
[04:53] <blanky> harry, what's your problem with it though
[04:53] <earthen> nf4, what failed to install exactly
[04:53] <harry> blanky: trying to use it wont work??
[04:53] <CrazyDoode_> xchm is not in synaptic??
[04:54] <intelikey> harry yes.  restricted formats
[04:54] <intelikey> !restricted
[04:54] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:54] <intelikey> harry vlc
[04:54] <intelikey> !vlc
[04:54] <ubotu> well, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[04:55] <Toothpick> Is there work in progress to make ubuntu hd install into a livecd with autohardware configuration, like PCLINUXOS and SLAX have developed?
[04:55] <martyvis> Toothpick, LiveCD does do install optionally
[04:55] <Healot> technically it does that
 the firefox plugin
[04:56] <nf4> i was trying to past the results on pastbin
[04:56] <nf4> but it isnt working
[04:56] <earthen> nf4, what was the error
[04:56] <lwizardl> under windows i could edit the "c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\hosts" file and add a line like "192.168.0.45 testsite.home #test site" and then in the webbrowser i could type "http://testsite.home" and bring it up how can i do this on my ubuntu box (no the apache server wasn't on my windows box but a gentoo one)
[04:56] <nf4> Package sun-java5-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package
[04:56] <Toothpick> martyvis: I'm looking for the reverse, a hd system to a livecd
[04:56] <martyvis> lwizardl, edit /etc/hosts
[04:56] <nf4> E: Package sun-java5-plugin has no installation candidate
[04:56] <earthen> nf4, you need to update your sorces.list file
[04:57] <harry> does wine support microsoft filght simulator 2004???
[04:57] <martyvis> lwizardl, where do think windows go that funny file name from ;-)
[04:57] <harry> does wine support microsoft flight simulator 2004???
[04:57] <earthen> nf4, you can find an updated one on that site that i pointed you to before
[04:57] <lonegeek> help...how do i reconfigure x11.....i messed up my mouse settings in the xorg.conf file
[04:58] <dou213> lonegeek, did u backup your xorg.conf file?
[04:58] <martyvis> lonegeek, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:58] <kieranDOA> theres normally a backup in /etc/X11 IIRC
[04:58] <kieranDOA> silly names like xorg.conf.1234115616
[04:58] <lonegeek> dou213: i did a while back...i copy pasted exact mouse settings...but something is screwy
[04:58] <lwizardl> martyvis, ok my ubuntu hosts file has 4 blocks and the windows one only had 3
[04:59] <dou213> do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or c/p the backup
[04:59] <martyvis> lwizardl, doesn't matter where you add it - just to the top if you like
[04:59] <shachaf> Is there any easy way to get evolution working with vi editing in Ubuntu?
[04:59] <|_ocke> k can anyone help me get DRI working on my voodoo3, i already installed all the packages
[04:59] <bdmp> Is there a command to see what kind of ethernet card I have?
[04:59] <martyvis> lwizardl, ubuntu has some IP version 6 ones that look funny
[04:59] <ToHellWithGA> beep-media-player doesn't seem to have a FLAC plugin by default.  how do i get one?
[04:59] <|_ocke> glide3 and all
[04:59] <lwizardl> well like this "127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       ubuntu"'
[05:00] <dou213> bdmp, lspci shows u informations about your hardware
[05:00] <bdmp> thanks
[05:00] <martyvis> lwizardl, just add "192.168.0.45 testsite.home #test site" to the top - be brave!
[05:01] <sjust_> I a printer hooked to an XP machine and can not connect from Ubuntu machine ?
[05:01] <lwizardl> ok now just try the testsite?
[05:02] <Healot> sjust_: you need Samba to do that job
[05:02] <sjust_> have it
[05:02] <sjust_> can connect to lan but not printer
[05:03] <sjust_> have cups too
[05:03] <Healot> sjust_: Your windows XP must have the UNix printing service
[05:03] <sjust_> did that
[05:03] <Healot> do you find the printer then?
[05:03] <sjust_> read everything I could find
[05:04] <moua> how can i install x.org on a dedicated server ?
[05:04] <sjust_> no
[05:04] <Mersault> what's the easiest way to make a new install of dapper see an partition that's a single partition lvm setup?
[05:04] <moua> (without graphi card)
[05:04] <Healot> can you ping the printer IP address? sjust_
[05:05] <lwizardl> sjust_, this help any? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter?highlight=%28xp%29%7C%28windows%29%7C%28print%29
[05:05] <sjust_> can see that computer can browes files
[05:05] <sjust_> can ping that computer
[05:05] <sjust_> printer lexmark usb all in one
[05:05] <Healot> sjust_: do you have permission to access the printer?
[05:06] <sjust_> yes can from XP on the Ubuntu machine
[05:06] <five_linux> anyone recommend a good backup manager?
[05:06] <Mersault> I've just installed dapper on a new computer, and I've moved my old hard disk from a breezy install into the new machine. one of the partitions on the old hard disk was configured for lvm (xfs formatted), and I want to get the files off of it. can I make dapper read the lvm partition without destroying the data?
[05:07] <Mersault> when I check in the 'discs' utility, it just sees it as unformatted space.
[05:07] <philcal> HP laptop brigtness not working - in /proc/acpi pcc missing - should it be there and what does it?
[05:07] <bdmp> My mac address is all 00000's help.
[05:08] <dick-richardson> I have a network file system that I'm trying to write a shell script to mount. I want to test the available of the resource before doing so...any suggestions?
[05:08] <sjust_> it is not that important just frustrating
[05:08] <lwizardl> martyvis, doesn't work only brings up the 1st site in the http.conf
[05:08] <Sivik> !java
[05:08] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[05:08] <Sivik> what is the name of the package for the mozilla java plugin?
[05:09] <logical_mark> Hey guys, what is a good HyperTerminal alternitive for Linux?
[05:09] <logical_mark> I need to console into managed cisco routers and switches
[05:09] <Healot> minicom
[05:09] <sjust_> got my mx510 to work
[05:09] <romeo_> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a older P3 with 128mb of ram. It boots into the live cd fine but when I go to install from within the live cd it takes forever and eventually freezes somewhere along the way. I've tried it 4 different times, always freezes. I'm speculating it's because I don't have enough ram and no swap space. Is there someway I can install from boot instead of within the live cd environment?
[05:09] <logical_mark> Healot, how easy is it to install?
[05:09] <Healot> sudo apt-get install minicom
[05:10] <sjust_> installed ati drivers no prob
[05:10] <romeo_> kermit should work as a hyperterminal also
[05:10] <Healot> and then run minicom... configure port
[05:10] <toshi> hello i have a question about compiling opengl apps and using nvidia drivers
[05:10] <Healot> and then connect to your router
[05:10] <Sivik> i need the name of the package for java ff plugin
[05:10] <sjust_> even mounted ntsf partions
[05:11] <toshi> the nvidia-glx-dev package does not create symlinks in /usr/include/GL for gl.h etc. why is that so?
[05:11] <sjust_> but printer has me ?
[05:11] <_ryan> http://pastebin.ca/64062 < having some trouble with ssh port forwarding
[05:11] <troy_s> _ryan: hold.
[05:12] <Healot> sjust_: have you started the UNIX printing service on XP?
[05:12] <troy_s> ryan:  you trying to start sshd on a different port?
[05:12] <sjust_> ahh  good ? i will check
[05:12] <Healot> hum
[05:12] <Healot> I bet you've installed the service, but does it start
[05:13] <Healot> sorry I've look that up on Windows Help :)
[05:14] <toshi> is there some kind of meta package that copy gl.h, glxext.h etc. to /usr/include/GL ?
[05:14] <bdmp> No one has any idea why my mac address would be 00:00:00:00:00:00 after a dapper upgrade?
[05:14] <sjust_> dont even see it in the services might be the problem
[05:14] <lime4x4> startx   if i had this in my .vnc/xstartup file it should start xubuntu desktop correct
[05:14] <troy_s> bdmp:  that is after a fresh boot?
[05:15] <bdmp> yeah
[05:15] <troy_s> bdmp:  sounds like dhcp isn't negotiating or something akin to that.
[05:15] <Mulder_> what's the name of the office suite they put in the windows part of ubuntu cd
[05:15] <troy_s> bdmp:  you behind a router?
[05:15] <bdmp> That is after 2 days. No net
[05:15] <bdmp> yeah
[05:15] <spikeb> Mulder_: openoffice.org
[05:15] <bdmp> my other comp is fine
[05:15] <kieranDOA> Hey all :-)
[05:15] <troy_s> bdmp:  what does ifconfig by itself reveal?
[05:15] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Hey :-)
[05:15] <Mulder_> spikeb, they changed it in dapper i think
[05:15] <troy_s> hey kieran!
[05:15] <kieranDOA> troy_s: How ya doing?
[05:15] <bdmp> and I pluged the cord in to the comp to test
[05:16] <troy_s> kieran:  great thanks.  full now.
[05:16] <Mulder_> i want to know what they hvae on the dapper cd
[05:16] <troy_s> bdmp:  open up a cli and ifconfig
[05:16] <_ryan> troy_s: ???
[05:16] <Healot> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324078/en-us?FR=1&PA=1&SD=HSCH << setting up UNIX printing service on XP/2000/2003
[05:16] <troy_s> ryan:  what are you trying to do with ssh?  are you trying to start the daemon up on a different port?  are you trying to connect to a different port?
[05:16] <bdmp> troy_s: http://pastebin.ca/63506
[05:16] <troy_s> bdmp:  hold.
[05:17] <sjust_> rebooting xp
[05:17] <troy_s> bdmp:  sudo ifdown eth1 for me
[05:17] <sjust_> then checking again
[05:17] <troy_s> bdmp: what is eth0 by chance?
[05:17] <kieranDOA> troy_s: Do you know of an easy way to logout a remote user thats logged in via ssh? other than ps aux | grep ssh; kill <pid> before i start writing a script to do it?
[05:17] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  there is one.
[05:17] <toshi> can someone help me?
[05:18] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  i think you just force them out as you would a regular admin.
[05:18] <bdmp> troy_s: my comp had eth0 and then after dapper upgrade it changed to eth1 and won't work
[05:18] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  but it has been a while... i would need to check it out.
[05:18] <troy_s> bdmp:  pastebin ifconfig -a
[05:18] <bdmp> I gotta copy to a usb key because I have no network. hold on
[05:18] <kieranDOA> troy_s: okay thanks, i think ill just write an easy script, something like, byebye user
[05:18] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  well you might want to do the normal way first :)
[05:19] <troy_s> kieranDOA:  give me a second...
[05:19] <bootlick> Installing flash player in unbuntu drapper, how do i go about it?
[05:19] <polpak> !tell bootlick about flash
[05:19] <meheren> when using sudo is it possible to specify the password via an argument?
[05:19] <bootlick> thanks
[05:19] <Sivik> how do i go about editing the linux time via terminal
[05:20] <polpak> meheren: why?
[05:20] <polpak> Sivik: with the date command
[05:20] <troy_s> bdmp:  and what does your /etc/network/interfaces file have in it?
[05:20] <BioVorE> Sivik: sudo date -s"date string as seen when you run date"
[05:20] <toshi> is there really no better way than copying gl.h to /usr/include/GL ?
[05:20] <bdmp> one sec
[05:20] <meheren> for example im about to compile a huge amount of packages from source and i need to use sudo command to do the make install
[05:20] <kieranDOA> just use sudo su
[05:20] <kieranDOA> and do it from there :-0
[05:20] <Sivik> i need to be edit the time, it currently says its 5:20 when its really 10:20
[05:21] <meheren> kieranDoa, yes but then when the programs are installed will they have proper permissions?
[05:21] <polpak> Sivik: you probably need to just change your timezone
[05:21] <Sivik> how do i do that via terminal
[05:21] <Sivik> or what program will do it
[05:21] <kieranDOA> meheren: true, they should have, but im not sure.
[05:22] <meheren> for example on program is wine if i compile wine while root will i be able to run wine via a standard user?
[05:22] <marquez> hola
[05:22] <polpak> meheren: yes you will
[05:22] <wsjunior> hello i installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu. i want to keep kde installed but i would like to have that ubuntu splash again instead of kubuntu one. how could i do that?
[05:22] <Healot> meheren: "sudo"
[05:22] <meheren> kieranDOA, ok then ill take my chances with superuser
[05:22] <meheren> ok thx then i got to go to bed :P
[05:22] <meheren> 12:22 here
[05:23] <bdmp> wsjunior: install ubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <Sivik> how do i edit the time?
[05:23] <wsjunior> bdmp: it is installed
[05:23] <nick__> bdmp: i think he wants the ubuntu splash screen....
[05:23] <wsjunior> ya
[05:23] <polpak> Sivik: you need to change your timezone. Editing the time wont help it auto syncs with the time servers
[05:23] <bdmp> if you do it again it will brind back your splash screen
[05:23] <toshi> where is ld.so.conf in ubuntu?
[05:23] <judah> Sivik: System -> Administration -> Date and Time
[05:23] <Sivik> polok, how do i do that then?
[05:24] <BioVorE> sivik: date -s"Sat Jun 10 23:23:44 EDT 2006"
[05:24] <Sivik> judah: via terminal
[05:24] <troy_s> kieran:  you might be correct... there is a script in this thread :  http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2004-May/2143.html
[05:24] <wsjunior> i did and still have ugly ubuntu splash
[05:24] <BioVorE> use sudo
[05:24] <wsjunior> kubuntu*
[05:24] <judah> Sivik: man date
[05:24] <troy_s> bdmp:  where's the nfo?
[05:24] <troy_s> bdmp:  you got a pastebin link for me?
[05:24] <bdmp> I am copying it.
[05:24] <Sivik> so how do i turn on ntp?
[05:24] <Sivik> via terminal
[05:25] <Sivik> judah: i'm not in kde nor gnome
[05:25] <judah> Sivik: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart
[05:25] <judah> Sivik: date is a command line tool.. man will show you how to use it.. ie. man date
[05:25] <BioVorE> Sivik: to update time via ntp via cli..  sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[05:26] <Sivik> BioVorE: thanks
[05:26] <judah> Sivik: ntpdate does it over the network to a time server as BioVorE notes
[05:26] <BioVorE> I suggest ussing google first before asking questions..
[05:26] <nick__> wsjunior: im not sure how to get the ubuntu splash screen ported to KDe but you could try GNOME-look.org
[05:26] <wsjunior> how do i get the ubuntu splash logo instead of this ugly kubuntu one?
[05:26] <bdmp> do what I said
[05:26] <wsjunior> nick__: must be a way..
[05:26] <BioVorE> wsjunior: install ubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <judah> Sivik: btw you just ask out to set the date
[05:26] <wsjunior> BioVorE: i did
[05:26] <Sivik> judah: i'm sorry
[05:26] <Sivik> judah: i meant time
[05:26] <Sivik> judah: i was wrong
[05:26] <wsjunior> BioVorE: still have the kubuntu splash
[05:27] <judah> Sivik: date time.. same thing.
[05:27] <BioVorE> wsjunior: then when booting to kde?
[05:27] <polpak> judah: he really needs to change his timezone
[05:27] <polpak> judah: not change the time
[05:27] <meheren> when i do the ./configure command it can't find X...?
[05:27] <wsjunior> BioVorE: ?
[05:27] <Sivik> polpak: how do i change the timezone?
[05:27] <nick__> wsjunior: on the site i found the ubuntu splash screens
[05:27] <meheren> it says checking for X ... no
[05:27] <lonegeek> does anyone want to help me setup dual monitors?
[05:27] <wsjunior> BioVorE: see, i want to get the bootsplash ubuntu again.. do u understand?
[05:27] <meheren> lonegeek, been there done that... failed
[05:27] <BioVorE> wsjunior: where dose this splash screen show up.. when you first booting up.. or after you login to your windows manager?
[05:27] <polpak> Sivik: you don't have a GUI?
[05:28] <kieranDOA> troy_s: thanks man, i might write my own script though, seems a bit of a dirt hack :P but the info is useful :-)
[05:28] <wsjunior> nick__: the bootsplash screen?
[05:28] <Sivik> i have GUI, just not gnome or kde
[05:28] <meheren> lonegeek, wasted 2 weeks of time... lol but don't get discoureged
[05:28] <edneymatias> bye!
[05:28] <wsjunior> BioVorE: when im booting up. bootsplash.
[05:28] <Sivik> and its not in the menu cause i'm still trying to figure out how to set up the menu in the GUI i'm using
[05:28] <lonegeek> mehren: ati or nvidia?
[05:28] <meheren> ati
[05:28] <BioVorE> wsjunior: need to rework the kernel
[05:28] <nick__> wsjunior: oh sorry.  I was thinking the login splash screens
[05:28] <BioVorE> wsjunior: it in the initrd
[05:29] <wsjunior> BioVorE: i just installed kubuntu-desktop and it was changed
[05:29] <Sivik> polpak: gnome was causing issues with my kernel with this video card
[05:29] <polpak> Sivik: google is your friend.... http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Timezone-in-Linux
[05:29] <meheren> any ideas...?
[05:29] <wsjunior> nick__: so how do i set the bootsplash screen again?
[05:29] <judah> Sivik:  you can set the timezone in /etc/timezone
[05:29] <Althulas> how can i get a2dp device to work with ubuntu ?
[05:29] <BioVorE> wsjunior: yes it was.. because it rebuilt you initrd for your kernel to change that graphic..
[05:29] <_ryan> troy_s: you there?
[05:29] <BioVorE> wsjunior: now don't you love automagical :-P
[05:29] <Sivik> my timezone is already correct
[05:29] <troy_s> ryan:  yes
[05:29] <Sivik> my bios time may not be correctr
[05:29] <lonegeek> meheren: ati or nvidia
[05:29] <judah> Sivik: then use ntpdate to stay in sync
[05:29] <troy_s> ryan:  missed your post... what were you trying to accomplish with ssh?
[05:29] <meheren> lonegeek, ati
[05:30] <philcal> hi, any recomendation for a CD reader program which wont hang on a CD read error
[05:30] <wsjunior> BioVorE: so how do i get that beauty ubuntu bootsplash screen instead of this terribly kubuntu one?
[05:30] <nick__> wsjunior: im not sure how to change the startup graphic but i think biovore knows
[05:30] <bdmp> troy_s: here it is http://pastebin.ca/64075
[05:30] <troy_s> _ryan:  explain what you were trying to accomplish.  attach to a different port?  launch the daemon on a different port?  etc.
[05:30] <BioVorE> wsjunior: wel I have a long complex way I am not going to exlain here.. but I think someone on here might know the "ubuntu" way of doing it.
[05:31] <troy_s> bdmp:  looking.
[05:31] <judah> Sivik: sudo apt-get install ntpdate; if it's not installed.. sudo /etc/inti.d/ntpdate restart ; if it is... ; and sudo vi /etc/default/ntpdate ; if it doesn't start at bootup.
[05:31] <troy_s> bdmp:  dump me /etc/network/interfaces please
[05:31] <Sivik> judah: very well
[05:31] <judah> very well indeed.
[05:31] <_ryan> I am sshing to my linux based router, and i wish to use ssh port forwarding to forward a local port to an ip and port behinf my router.
[05:32] <BioVorE> _ryan: ssh -L port:host:port I think
[05:32] <judah> of course you can substute gedit for vi if you don't have that installed.
[05:32] <h3h_timo> has anyone used an ipod with linux??
[05:32] <nick__> wsjunior: you could try posting on the ubuntu forums they might answer it
[05:32] <wsjunior> does anybody here knows how to change the bootplash screen in the ubuntu way? i just installed kubuntu-desktop now i see an extremely ugly kubuntu logo at boot. could anybody help me?
[05:32] <meheren> is there a source package for wine via the resporsity?
[05:32] <troy_s> _ryan:  then you should use iptables to get the target to the destination if you want ease.
[05:32] <Sivik> h3h_timo, it shouldn't be hard
[05:32] <judah> h3h_timo: all the time.
[05:32] <judah> h3h_timo: bashee has a great interface with ipod.
[05:32] <toshi> why is there no ld.so.conf in /etc?
[05:32] <h3h_timo> judah, is banshee for dapper?
[05:33] <judah> it is in the repository. yes.
[05:33] <BioVorE> wsjunior: reinstall the kernel is the only simple way to put it..  or you might beable to just rebuild the initrd for your kernel..  See man mkinitramfs
[05:33] <h3h_timo> judah, lol.. dumb question prolly.. anyway... gtkpod always sees that there is barely any room on my nano
[05:33] <judah> sudo apt-get install banshee banshee-daap
[05:33] <Bassetts> how can i put a link the the waste on my desktop?
[05:33] <troy_s> _ryan:  if the router and the comp are different boxes, a quick way is to let ssh run on port 22 on dest box and forward the incoming from the router to the box's 22
[05:33] <meheren> bassetts, gconf-editor
[05:33] <Bassetts> sudo?
[05:33] <wsjunior> BioVorE: i think it has something to do with this usplash tool
[05:34] <meheren> then go to metacity and the top option under metacity
[05:34] <h3h_timo> judah, thanks alot
[05:34] <troy_s> wsjunior:  check thewiki
[05:34] <BioVorE> wsjunior: yeah.. but the graphic is from the initrd
[05:34] <meheren> suo is unnesecary
[05:34] <meheren> *sudo
[05:34] <troy_s> wsjunior:  there is a comprehensive howto there.
[05:34] <lonegeek> how do i see how many fps glxgears is running at?
[05:34] <Bassetts> meheren: ok, what tree is it under(the waste basket)
[05:34] <BioVorE> wsjunior: usplash handles all the graphics and text and advaning the menubar
[05:34] <nf4> what is i386?
[05:34] <troy_s> wsjunior:  you will need a 16 color palettized 640x400 (1:33 aspect ratio though) image with certain palette indexes being used for certain things.
[05:34] <troy_s> wsjunior:  png image i might add.
[05:35] <meheren> hmm just a sec i thought it was metacity:then the top one...
[05:35] <BioVorE> nf4: intell 086 base processors
[05:35] <_ryan> troy_s: yeah, I didn't want to set up a port forward tho
[05:35] <troy_s> wsjunior:  like i said, check the wiki.
[05:35] <troy_s> _ryan: then just do a clean forward to the sshd port on the dest box
[05:35] <meheren> bassetts, apps > metacity > very top tree....
[05:35] <troy_s> _ryan:  but you need to specifcy what port you want ssh to start on.
[05:35] <troy_s> _ryan:  sshd i mean.
[05:35] <troy_s> bdmp:  dumped interfaces yet?
[05:36] <Bassetts> meheren, im confused
[05:36] <judah> h3h_timo: give it a shot.. /dinner time !!
[05:36] <nf4> the only thing that bothers me about the java not working in firefox is that it is my main browser and it works in mozilla
[05:36] <ToHellWithGA> is there a way to make tab completion slightly dumber?  i'd rather tab complete a file of the wrong format for my command and arguments and get an error message than sit here pounding the tab key until i figure out why it won't work
[05:36] <meheren> i know... sry
[05:36] <meheren> bassetss, just a sec
[05:36] <troy_s> nf4:  64 bit architecture?
[05:36] <nf4> so there really isnt a exuse for it not working in firefox
[05:36] <Bassetts> ok =)
[05:36] <nf4> yes
[05:36] <Bassetts> sorry im a pain, almost 5am here i need sleep =P
[05:36] <ToHellWithGA> as examples "tar xzf file.tar.bz" or "tar zjf file.tar.gz"
[05:36] <nf4> but it works in all my other browsers
[05:36] <troy_s> nf4: no such creature.  !flash64 for more info on how to set it up easily with 32bit binaries.
[05:37] <meheren> bassetts, ok here ya go:
[05:37] <toshi> so all of you don't have a ld.so.conf in /etc too, right?
[05:37] <troy_s> nf4:  if you are running in native 64 bit mode, there is no such creature.
[05:37] <ToHellWithGA> either of those would be syntactically wrong, but after auto-completing i'd get the error message that says why
[05:37] <nf4> well java works in all my other browsers useing blackdown
[05:37] <nf4> except firefox
[05:37] <Bassetts> meheren? =S
[05:37] <troy_s> nf4:  blackdown has some serious problems with certain types of java code.
[05:37] <nf4> i thought they all shared plugins
[05:37] <troy_s> nf4:  it is hit and miss really.
[05:38] <meheren> gconf-editor apps > nautilus > desktop > trash_icon_name
[05:38] <meheren> bassetts, sry about that...
[05:38] <toshi> bye
[05:38] <troy_s> nf4:  try the 32bit binary version if you want best compatability as sun's is obviously the standard.  unfortunately, still closed source for the time being.
[05:38] <Bassetts> hehe
[05:38] <nf4> firefox is nearly the same as mozila though
[05:38] <meheren> i have a billion things running here
[05:38] <troy_s> bdmp:  you still alive?
[05:38] <troy_s> nf4:  yeah, blackdown's java will work in firefox
[05:38] <nf4> i guess i have to learn to use mozlia
[05:38] <philcal>  hi again, any recomendation for a CDrom reader  which will skip over any CD read error's -perhaps script using dd?
[05:38] <troy_s> nf4:  you might need to 'choose' it using hte java config tool though.
[05:38] <Bassetts> np meheren =) i know how it feels
[05:39] <nf4> no it will work in every one elses firefox
[05:39] <troy_s> nf4:  its on the wiki somewhere.
[05:39] <meheren> :P
[05:39] <polpak> nf4: why not use sun java?
[05:39] <kieranDOA> firefox is mozilla, just mozilla is part of the suite.
[05:39] <nf4> it just hates me
[05:39] <troy_s> nf4:  firefox might need you to 'choose' the java though!
[05:39] <troy_s> nf4: iirc
[05:39] <meheren> ah ok i really got to go to bed this time... 12:40 now...
[05:39] <troy_s> nf4:  something fussy like that.
[05:39] <meheren> 'night
[05:39] <will> hey guys, where does synaptic download the installers to?
[05:39] <Bassetts> anyone know a good linux book?
[05:39] <nf4> firefox is just being fussy
[05:40] <troy_s> bassetts:  "how linux works" no starch press.
[05:40] <nf4> mozilla will have to due for now
[05:40] <Bassetts> thanks :)
[05:40] <philcal> will: apt/cache/ or someting like that
[05:40] <tylerofl> has anyone managed to get flash running on firefox?
[05:40] <will> taa
[05:40] <nf4> i just got the old flash to work
[05:40] <tylerofl> it installed okay, but nothing works
[05:40] <Meshezabeel> tylerofl, try easyubuntu for flash
[05:40] <polpak> !flahs
[05:40] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, polpak
[05:40] <tylerofl> easybuntu?
[05:40] <polpak> err
[05:40] <sjust_> I have
[05:40] <polpak> !flash
[05:40] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:40] <sjust_> sort of
[05:41] <polpak> works fine
[05:41] <Meshezabeel> !easyubuntu
[05:41] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:41] <sjust_> but I use swift fox
[05:41] <bdmp> troy_s: http://pastebin.ca/64085
[05:42] <troy_s> bdmp:  danke
[05:42] <troy_s> bdmp:  remove line 17
[05:42] <troy_s> bdmp:  and presto.
[05:42] <puff> evening.
[05:42] <Meshezabeel> tylerofl, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[05:42] <starseed> it didn't break my system
[05:43] <troy_s> bdmp:  oops, and 19
[05:43] <Bassetts> how can i make firefox open torrent links with azureus?
[05:43] <starseed> just installed everything I needed, heh
[05:43] <troy_s> bdmp:  http://pastebin.ca/64086
[05:43] <starseed> you may have to browse to /usr/bin/azureus
[05:43] <Bassetts> thnx
[05:44] <bdmp> then restart the comp troy_s ?
[05:44] <troy_s> bdmp nope
[05:44] <troy_s> just do a network restart
[05:45] <ijeffx> Everyone should check out http://alpha.qunu.com/index.html
[05:45] <troy_s> bdmp:  as in "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[05:45] <ijeffx> system for providing and receiving support within the community
[05:45] <Bassetts> =( azureus dialogs that show in the bottom right wont go away when i click hide
[05:45] <bdmp> I restarted the comp before you replied, sorry
[05:46] <troy_s> ijeffx:  cool
[05:46] <troy_s> bdmp: silly windows habit
[05:46] <uXp> hello
[05:46] <bdmp> it works a lot in linux when you don't know the right command.
[05:47] <uXp> how do you find out if your running dapper or breezy?
[05:47] <troy_s> bdmp:  indeed.  but learning the correct command helps speed stuff up and help others.  but i can't blame you :)
[05:47] <linux_user400354> hI need help with vnc please. http://pastebin.ca/64088
[05:47] <troy_s> uxp:  if a uname -r shows 2.6.15-## you are on dapper.
[05:47] <Draconicus> uXp: Which one did you download? :P
[05:47] <uXp> ubuntu
[05:47] <Draconicus> -..-;
[05:48] <uXp> but yea i think im on the 2.6.15
[05:48] <uXp> thx
[05:48] <uXp> is there a way top backup ubuntu incase of a messing up?
[05:48] <troy_s> uxp:  also system about should show you the ubuntu version
[05:48] <uXp> yea thx
[05:48] <schalken> is it possible to change the resolution of ubuntu's boot screen?
[05:48] <uXp> im on windows right now so i was jw
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> uXp, you can back up a whole partition if you want to...
[05:49] <troy_s> uxp:  all info is in your home directory.
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> image it
[05:49] <Healot> uXp: backup three directories /etc /home /boot
[05:49] <lonegeek> yeah!! i got dual monitors finnally.....im running in "big desktop" mode....can i make task panel extend all the way across?
[05:49] <detectiveinspekt> how do I tell if I'm running dapper after a upgrade?
[05:49] <troy_s> uxp:  if you want to save all the important stuffs, its in your home primarily.
[05:49] <Healot> the least you can do
[05:49] <bdmp> troy_s: now ifconfig only shows lo
[05:49] <IcemanV9> uXp: OR cat /etc/lsb-release
[05:49] <troy_s> bdmp:  did you remove 17 and 19?
[05:49] <bdmp> only 19
[05:49] <bdmp> oops
[05:49] <troy_s> bdmp:  yah :)
[05:49] <puff> I'm having problems with wireless.
[05:50] <troy_s> bdmp:  this time, fix the interfaces file then "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[05:50] <puff> Actually, skip that, those problems are on an old version of ubuntu, so I should probably just ugprade it and then see if I have problems.
[05:50] <puff> Meanwhile, I'm installing ubuntu on this old 400Mhz pentium to use as an office intranet server, file server, etc.
[05:50] <uXp> lonegeek : PM plz
[05:51] <schalken> uhm, is it possible to change the resolution of Ubuntu's boot screen?
[05:51] <puff> It's slooooow.
[05:51] <IcemanV9> what's the command to show the list of module is up and running?
[05:51] <bdmp> troy_s: eth0 no such device
[05:51] <lonegeek> uXp: you hear me?
[05:51] <uXp> what u say
[05:51] <uXp> about backing it up?
[05:51] <MystaMax> If I've installed ubuntu 6.06-server does it automatically install the smp kernel?
[05:52] <detectiveinspekt> how do I tell if im running dapper?
[05:52] <IcemanV9> cat /etc/lsb-release
[05:52] <troy_s> bdmp:  did you remove both those lines?
[05:52] <bdmp> yeah
[05:52] <uXp> if your running verson 2.6.15###
[05:53] <troy_s> bdmp:  should look like http://pastebin.ca/64086
[05:53] <Healot> lsb_release -a
[05:53] <uXp> yo lonegeek
[05:53] <troy_s> bdmp:  try a "sudo ifdown eth0"
[05:53] <troy_s> bdmp:  then "sudo ifup eth0"
[05:53] <detectiveinspekt> I just updated and I'm still on 5.10
[05:53] <lonegeek> uXp what you need?
[05:53] <uXp> i sended oyu a PM check it
[05:53] <schalken> hey does anyone know if its possible to change the screen resolution of ubuntu's boot screen? 640x480 looks very ugly on an lcd!
[05:53] <detectiveinspekt> updated the repos to dapper
[05:54] <wsjunior> BioVorE: the ubuntu way is to uninstall kubuntu usplash :-p
[05:54] <IcemanV9> nm .. it's lsmod
[05:54] <wsjunior> BioVorE: just tried and worked
[05:54] <uXp> lonegeek : how do oyu get both monitors to run, i have dual monitors but can't get it to work
[05:54] <kieranDOA> schalken: does it make a difference? its a Boot screen, you shouldnt see it for too long.
[05:54] <lonegeek> uXp: do you have fglrx drivers installed?
[05:54] <bdmp> troy_s: eth0 interface not configured
[05:55] <uXp> idk what that is
[05:55] <uXp> walk me through it?
[05:55] <uXp> oh crap
[05:55] <uXp> im on windows now not ubuntu
[05:55] <troy_s> bdmp:  grr... i don't want to say reboot :)
[05:55] <troy_s> ifconfig -a again for me
[05:55] <schalken> kieranDOA: lol, but you cant read the font. and its also the resolution on the tty (you know, Ctrl+Alt+F1)
[05:55] <troy_s> you should only have eth0 there now.
[05:55] <wsjunior> is there any easy to remove kde itens from gnome menu?
[05:55] <MystaMax> anyone?
[05:55] <troy_s> eth1 was causing problems.
[05:55] <varsendaggr> hey how can i see what my internet connection is dooing?
[05:55] <varsendaggr> what it looks like visually
[05:55] <Vaske_Car> how do I check folder size from termina?
[05:56] <uXp> lonegeek : can you stay here till i reboot to ubuntu?
[05:56] <lonegeek> yeah
[05:56] <troy_s> bdmp:  if all fails, reboot... you should be up and runing.  bathtime.
[05:56] <uXp> ok br back in few minutes
[05:57] <mlowe> !dmix
[05:57] <ubotu> somebody said dmix was first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:57] <bdmp> thanks a lot.
[05:57] <amk-sep> i have a problem invoking programs from gnome menu
[05:57] <Vaske_Car> how to check folder size from terminal?
[05:57] <troy_s> bdmp:  luck?????
[05:57] <detectiveinspekt> never mind
[05:58] <Bassetts> where are programs installed to?
[05:58] <troy_s> bdmp:  hopefully that worked.  did it ?
[05:58] <bdmp> I am gonna restart now
[05:58] <troy_s> bassetts:  /usr/bin etc.
[05:58] <Bassetts> ok
[05:58] <troy_s> bassetts:  there is no 'program files' per se in open source land... just a collection of binaries that all use shared libraries.
[05:59] <Healot> just remember the bin directories :-
[05:59] <Healot> or the lib
[05:59] <MystaMax> is 2.6.15-23-server a SMP kernel? how do I know if both my processors are being used?
[05:59] <Healot> it's everywhere... run@!
[05:59] <Bassetts> i kind of understant that, its just i have to find and replace azureus2.jar
[05:59] <Bassetts> and i have no idea where it is
[05:59] <Healot> MystaMax: cat /proc/cpu
[06:00] <bdmp> troy_s: this seems to be a common problem that people's network card switches to eth1 but mine is different because my mac address was all 0s
[06:00] <tuv> is network-manager in a proper working state in dapper or should i wait a little longer for it?
[06:01] <MystaMax> Healot, is it cat /proc/cpuinfo  ???
[06:01] <Healot> yup
[06:01] <Healot> tab tab
[06:01] <troy_s> bdmp:  yah dapper seems to be trying to add a card even though one exists... skript problem.
[06:01] <troy_s> bdmp:  hopefully you are up now.
[06:01] <bdmp> bad dapper
[06:01] <Healot> btw SMP kernels are mark with smp in the package name
[06:02] <bdmp> one sec
[06:02] <MystaMax> Healot,  its states cpu=0 ??
[06:02] <Healot> then it's only 1 CPU
[06:02] <bdmp> troy_s: I only have lo
[06:02] <troy_s> healot:  they are all smp now if you choose a chip specific kernel
[06:02] <troy_s> bdmp: grr!  wtf?
[06:02] <MystaMax> ok off to install smp kernel thx Healot
[06:03] <troy_s> bdmp:  what does ifconfig -a show us now?
[06:03] <Healot> linux-686-smp or something...
[06:03] <troy_s> healot:  no, the smp's are gone now.
[06:03] <bdmp> eth1,lo, sit0
[06:03] <troy_s> bdmp:  where the feck is it getting eth1 from???  interfaces is clean now?
[06:03] <Healot> evil duel
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> ok, i give up... I want to change my Panel's text color... I can do the background... not text?
[06:04] <will> im trying to access a windows partition with terminal ....  is the command :   cd /media/hda3/New Folder
[06:05] <troy_s> will: spaces will trip like params.  enclose in quotes.
[06:05] <intelikey> will you either need to use tab completion or excape spaces   or quote the address
 rockin thankyou
[06:06] <troy_s> will:  the command line saw 'cd /media/hda3/New' with Folder as a param :)
[06:06] <intelikey> cd /media/disk/like\ this\ works\ also
[06:07] <troy_s> will:  intel is way more l33t than me.  didn't know that handy escape sequence trick.
[06:07] <Healot> just tab tab
[06:07] <Healot> in bash ;-
[06:07] <intelikey> didn't i say that ???
[06:07] <kieranDOA> Where is the httpd.conf? its not in /etc/httpd
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> reading man bash helps
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> /var/...
[06:08] <P0ldy> kieranDOA, /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[06:08] <kieranDOA> P0ldy: Doh, how dumb of me
[06:08] <kieranDOA> cheers
[06:09] <will> i used   cd "/media/hda3/New Folder"
[06:10] <myworld122> can anybody help me to install vmware?
[06:11] <Healot> myworld122: hmm
[06:11] <lonegeek> how do i view fps on glxgears
[06:11] <LabThug_hm> Anyone had any problems with a HP Photosmart 8450 after upgrading to dapper?
 have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OSEmulation yet >?
[06:11] <myworld122> looking!...:)
[06:12] <uXp> loone you still here?
[06:12] <LabThug_hm> syslog says   "hpijs: unable to open /hpiod.port: No such file or directory: hplip_api.c 84"
[06:12] <uXp> lonegeek: you still here?
[06:12] <myworld122> thanks will:
[06:12] <intelikey> will neet thing about bash (unless they screwed it up in dapper)  if you use dubble quotes it will expand the command line  if you use single quotes it wont.   example;  cd "$HOME/New folder"  is the same as   cd /home/user/New\ folder     while  cd '$HOME/New folder'   is actually   cd ./\$HOME/New\ folder
[06:12] <lonegeek> uXp: yep
[06:12] <uXp> so where were we
[06:13] <uXp> lonegeek: you were telling me about installing or having something?
[06:13] <lonegeek> did you install the fglrx drivers?
[06:13] <intelikey> that makes it possable to use single quote and make/use dirs/files with special chars like $ in them.
[06:15] <uXp> longenah how do you do that
[06:15] <uXp> lonegeek: how do i do that?
[06:15] <ampamman> whats the difference between the server install cd and the desktop install cd?
[06:15] <lonegeek> load up synaptic and search for fglrx and aticonfig
[06:15] <will> intelikey, you're way ahead of me there :)    i have not needed to use a $ yet  .... xcept in the ATI installer, but i got away with it without typing $
[06:15] <bdmp> Dapper upgrade causes Tvtuner to not work. Read all about it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1123435#post1123435
[06:15] <lonegeek> uXp: install both
[06:15] <tau> hello, can someone tell me how I can downgrade from dapper back to breezy?
[06:15] <capiCrimm> anyone know a good chm -> pdf converter?
[06:15] <uXp> i don't have ati tho i have nvidia
[06:15] <harry> who here knows how to install Turbogears at www.turbogears.org
[06:15] <capiCrimm> tau, I don't think you can easily
[06:15] <harry> nid help
[06:16] <P0ldy> ampamman, server install cd is if you're setting up a web server, ftp server, mail server, etc.  Desktop is if you're using Ubuntu for an everyday desktop
[06:16] <tau> oh :(
[06:16] <lonegeek> uXp: you said ati
[06:16] <will> is anyone up on wine gaming + sound issues (aka problems)
[06:16] <will> (wine game runs sweet but no sound)
[06:16] <uXp> lonegeek: i have an nvidia card not ati
[06:17] <intelikey> select alsa output
[06:17] <lonegeek> uXp: lol oops.....nvidia is easier....im sure a quick search of ubuntu forums/wiki can help
[06:17] <uXp> well ive installed my nvidia card is that the same thing err i mean drivers
[06:18] <uXp> lonegeek: ?
[06:19] <tau> do I have to reformat and start again?
[06:19] <lonegeek> uXp: search on ubuntuwiki or ubuntuforums...i cant help with nvidia
[06:19] <uXp> well ive installed the drivers and what ot is thta all i need?
[06:19] <uXp> what not*
[06:20] <intelikey> tau dg is not supported
[06:20] <IcemanV9> tau: no. you can reinstall and leave /home intacted. if not, then back up all important data 1st.
[06:20] <tau> I think it's time to try another distribution
[06:20] <linux_user400354> how can i edit to ~/.vnc/xstartup file, so that the vnc server uses xfce? http://pastebin.ca/64088
[06:21] <tau> I've had it with ubuntu
[06:21] <uXp> what is the code to run something as root?
[06:21] <IcemanV9> sudo
[06:21] <krazykit> linux_user400354: you should be able to change lines 5 and 6 to "xfce4-session &" and have it work
[06:21] <intelikey> !root
[06:21] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:21] <intelikey> !sudo
[06:21] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:22] <intelikey> now that being said   use gksudo if it's a gnome app
[06:22] <uXp> i know that
[06:22] <uXp> ok
[06:22] <uXp> how do i tell it to run somehting?
[06:22] <krazykit> sudo command
[06:22] <intelikey> gksudo blah
[06:23] <intelikey> in the run command  dialog
[06:23] <intelikey> or term
[06:23] <intelikey> alt+f2
[06:23] <harry> intelikey: do you know turbogears???
[06:23] <harry> ubotu: do you know turbogears???
[06:23] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, harry
[06:23] <intelikey> negitive
[06:23] <intelikey> !turbogears
[06:23] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[06:24] <Pupeno> Hello.
[06:24] <intelikey> nope the bot has no infonode on that
[06:24] <LabThug_hm> "/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed"  any ideas
[06:24] <uXp> is this it?
[06:24] <uXp>  sudo run install.sh
[06:24] <harry> ubotu: it does not exist.  it's a rapid web development program. i'm having trouble installing it.
[06:24] <ubotu> harry: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[06:24] <intelikey> or should i say by that name.
[06:25] <krazykit> uXp: no, `sudo sh install.sh`
[06:25] <intelikey> harry.
[06:25] <intelikey> !ubotu
[06:25] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:25] <uXp> ok
[06:25] <harry> ubotu: try going to downloads and nix like system.  www.turbogears.org
[06:25] <ubotu> harry: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:25] <harry> ubotu: thanks
[06:25] <ubotu> de nada, harry
[06:25] <intelikey> uXp no 'run' in there.
[06:25] <harry> intelikey: do you turbogears????
[06:25] <uXp> ok i got it
[06:26] <intelikey> harry no, i answered already.
[06:26] <_ryan> how do i ddisable gpg's GPG check?
[06:27] <myworld122> can anybody help? while installing wine, i got this error: Vmware Player installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for the running kernel. To (re-) configure it, invoke the following command: /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
[06:27] <myworld122> invoke-rc.d: initscript vmare-player, action "start" failed.
[06:27] <myworld122> dpkg: error processing vmware-player (--configure):
[06:27] <myworld122>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:27] <myworld122> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:27] <myworld122>  vmware-player
[06:27] <troy_s> myworld:  read topic about pastebin please
[06:27] <spazzz>  Evening folks.  I was wondering if someone could help me with a generic computer question.  I have a laptop that I just got.  Debating putting Ubuntu on it but the CPU seems to be running kinda warm.  Is 47 degrees too hot for a laptop or not?  Its my first one so Im not sure
[06:28] <krazykit> spazzz: no, it's fine.
[06:28] <spazzz>  krazykt: it's gone as high as 60 when i'm working about where do you think I need to worry?
[06:28] <IcemanV9> what's the default irc client for kubuntu?
[06:28] <intelikey> 60 should be fine
[06:28] <krazykit> spazzz: naw, mine goes from 50-60C, no problems
[06:29] <krazykit> spazzz: start to worry if it's hitting 80.
[06:29] <uXp> i downloaded a divx file where do i put the codec?
[06:29] <LadyNikon> mmm nothing like a glass of wine to calm the evening
[06:29] <IcemanV9> spazzz: for my laptop, 72C is bad .. it'll shutdown when it hits 73C
[06:29] <spazzz>  Ok.. I just wanted to make sure.  I'm also having some problums with it spontaniously shutting down that I thought might have been being triggered by the temp.  If you don't think so though I'm going to blame it on some other glitch.
[06:29] <krazykit> uXp: what?  you should have the codec already... it's part of ffmpeg
[06:29] <nf4> what type of wine
[06:30] <nf4> gerwurtztraminer is the best
[06:30] <LadyNikon> Gollywobbler
[06:30] <nf4> that or a good cava
[06:30] <intelikey> IcemanV9 that can be adjusted no?
[06:30] <LadyNikon> its from a local winery here in maryland
[06:30] <uXp> krazykit: well im able to view a divx file but i can't hear the sound, any suggestions?
[06:30] <myworld122> so what do i do with the pastebin?
[06:30] <IcemanV9> intelikey: i've tried. nope.
[06:30] <andrew_> Can someone please tell me why I can install wine on Ubuntu
[06:30] <tuxtheslacker> hey guys.
[06:30] <lonegeek> can i extend gnomepanel across 2 monitors
[06:31] <krazykit> uXp: sounds are muted?  the file is bad?
[06:31] <uXp> andrew_: did oyu get it off the package manager?
[06:31] <chavo> lonegeek, you can add another panel
[06:31] <intelikey> andrew_ because you are normal ?
[06:31] <tuxtheslacker> quick question....
[06:31] <uXp> krazykit: nah im able to play it in windows fine
[06:31] <spazzz>  Alright guys thanks for the advice :-)
[06:31] <tuxtheslacker> I have a problem with my toolbar not working anymore.
[06:31] <andrew_> i try to type in the adress but it dosn't work.
[06:31] <lonegeek> chavo: but how do i set it to 2nd monitor
[06:31] <intelikey> andrew_ but try    sudo apt-get install wine
[06:31] <tuxtheslacker> like programs will load, and the widget that shows programs running in the background just dissappeared.
[06:31] <chavo> lonegeek, just drag it over there
[06:32] <lonegeek> oh yeah...dummy me
[06:32] <krazykit> uXp: then either your sounds are muted, or your player is trying to output audio to the wrong device
[06:32] <uXp> anyone know how i can run dual monitors in ubuntu?
[06:32] <uXp> how do i find out, i play it with xine
[06:32] <elkbuntu> !twinview
[06:32] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, elkbuntu
[06:32] <krazykit> uXp: probably in xine's options.  alsa is usually a good bet.
[06:33] <uXp> ah nvm
[06:33] <uXp> hmm weird now it plays sounf
[06:33] <uXp> thx anyways krazykit
[06:33] <intelikey> !dualhead
[06:33] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[06:33] <lonegeek> chavo: i have it on other monitor but nothing loads up on it
[06:33] <LabThug_hm> Jeez, printing was a breeze on breezy.  It seems to have crapped out in dapper.
[06:34] <uXp> so does anyone know how i can run dual monitors in ubuntu?
[06:34] <chavo> lonegeek, you have to add applets now, or drag them from your other panel
[06:34] <uXp> i have nvidia installed already
[06:34] <kieranDOA> uXp: have you searched the forums/wiki?
[06:34] <elkbuntu> i could have sworn there was a factoid
[06:34] <ampamman> after dist-upgrading to dapper and restarting eth0 doesnt detect
[06:34] <tuxtheslacker> anyone have that porblem?
[06:34] <chavo> lonegeek, you cann add another taskbar and it will show only apps on that monitor
[06:34] <ampamman> going to do a fresh install now
[06:34] <uXp> lonegeek: do you haev dual monitor setup?
[06:34] <LabThug_hm> uXp: I had to add another screen to my xorg.conf file to get dual heads to work
[06:35] <LabThug_hm> but that was with an ATI card
[06:35] <intelikey> uXp several docs out there on dual-head systems/setups
[06:35] <vincenz> Hi
[06:35] <ron_> hi
[06:35] <LabThug_hm> cups sucks.  click the "Printers" button.  It tells me "bad request"
[06:35] <vincenz> Is there an ubuntu bootfloppy around?
[06:35] <lonegeek> chavo: it shows the same apps on both bars
[06:35] <uXp> intelikey: can you link me?
[06:35] <chavo> uXp, if you have nvidia it's real easy
[06:35] <uXp> im a noob, lol
[06:35] <uXp> oh ok
[06:36] <uXp> chavo: walk me through it?
[06:36] <myworld122> error while installing wine, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15507
[06:36] <chavo> lonegeek, there's a setting to change it, but I forget exactly how. I'm running KDE at the moment
[06:36] <IcemanV9> is KSirc the default irc client for Kubuntu??
[06:36] <chavo> IcemanV9, konversation
[06:36] <intelikey> uXp http://www.google.com/linux/dualhead
[06:36] <chavo> uXp, I can't right now, got a lot of other crap to do
[06:36] <IcemanV9> chavo: k thks
[06:36] <lonegeek> chavo: any sort of idea?
[06:37] <uXp> chavo: well did oyu find it online?
[06:37] <chavo> uXp, there's lots of documentation out there, just look for twinview in google
[06:37] <elkbuntu> uXp, intelikey did... <intelikey> uXp http://www.google.com/linux/dualhead
[06:37] <uXp> elkbuntu: that link doesn't work
[06:38] <intelikey> uXp http://www.google.com/linux:dualhead
[06:38] <krazykit> uXp: i think the idea was to tell you to hit up google for the answer
[06:38] <elkbuntu> uXp, maybe try searching google yourself anyway, or the forums
[06:38] <uXp> lol guys
[06:38] <uXp> k
[06:38] <vincenz> No?
[06:38] <krazykit> uXp: you'd be surprised how much faster it is to search google and the forums than to get an answer in irc :-P
[06:39] <uXp> im trying to do so much so im trying to make it easier on me, lol
[06:39] <elkbuntu> just because we're here doesnt mean we know everything or have time to hold your hand while you do things
[06:39] <uXp> but hwat if i trip?
[06:39] <uXp> ;)
[06:40] <elkbuntu> uXp, same thing you used to do when you were learning to walk as a toddler.. you get back up
[06:40] <kieranDOA> Pick yourself up?
[06:40] <vincenz> Hi is it feasible to make a minimalistic live-floppy for ubuntu?  I have an old 486 lying around and I can't boot it so I would like to see what's still on there (it's an old linux distro, can't remember).  It's got no cd
[06:40] <chavo> uXp, just make a backup of your xorg.conf before you start and everything will be aok
[06:40] <uXp> rgr
[06:40] <krazykit> uXp: such is the idea.  irc should be treated as a last resort, or something for clarification.
[06:40] <uXp> lol elkbuntu ok
[06:40] <intelikey> uXp best bet.  if folks in irc say "there are docs"  it's prolly time to search and stop expecting them to search for you.
[06:40] <ron_> vincenz, no cd-rom?
[06:40] <uXp> ok damn off my back now i get the point
[06:40] <vincenz> ron_: nope
[06:40] <uXp> lol
[06:40] <vincenz> ron_: it's an old 486
[06:41] <ron_> oh
[06:41] <krazykit> vincenz: not really... lemme think of the boot disc i usually use
[06:41] <uXp> just some ppl have nice great links
[06:41] <uXp> wich is lots of the time
[06:41] <kieranDOA> Its actually pretty cool in here, I havent seen any RTFM responses, even when that should be the response :P
[06:41] <vincenz> ron_: but I would like to checkk/clear the HD before I throw it out
[06:41] <chavo> besides I tried to walk a guy through it last night and it didn't work, so my mojo is down at the moment :)
[06:41] <vincenz> all I really need is the basic essentials
[06:41] <krazykit> vincenz: http://www.toms.net/rb/
[06:41] <vincenz> krazykit: thank you
[06:41] <Mitja> Hi! How do fix "sudo: must be setuid root" problem?
[06:41] <vincenz> krazykit: unzip and dd to floppy?
[06:42] <intelikey> uXp you might want to bookmark http://www.tldp.org
[06:42] <krazykit> vincenz: uh, i think so, yeah.  there should be a readme
[06:42] <vincenz> ah alright :)
[06:44] <lastnode> ok i need to install identd, ive apt-getted gitentd, but efnet still wont let me on. what do i need to install?
[06:44] <krazykit> haha, i have a digital camera that uses floppies ;-)
[06:45] <intelikey> lastnode it may be your ip.  "unaffiliated"   lots of lamers using that.
[06:45] <Geoffrey2> any program that I started from a terminal should show up in session manager, right?
[06:45] <LabThug_hm> CUPS truely sucks ballz.  Everything I do gives me "error:  unknown"
[06:45] <krazykit> Geoffrey2: yeah
[06:45] <lastnode> intelikey, er? this is a freenode hostmask?
[06:46] <Geoffrey2> ok, must have accidentally shut it down again
[06:46] <Mitja> Anyone has any clue how to fix "setgid: Operation not permitted" problem?
[06:46] <intelikey> hmm lastnode i frequent irc.efnet.net and never use identd
[06:46] <Geoffrey2> !pastebin
[06:46] <intelikey> idk
[06:46] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:47] <lastnode> thanks intelikey , that server works now
[06:47] <lastnode> it's very erratic
[06:47] <jshriver> can someone help me burn the ubuntu ISO using cdrecord from the cli please... my system is totally screwed up and switching to ubuntu
[06:48] <LabThug_hm> Try to add a new printer in CUPS.  It asks for a device.  One problem ---- there is NOTHING in the GOD DAMN drop-down.
[06:48] <intelikey> lastnode the prepended irc.  searches for a server on the hostmask    it's kinda like a wild card  *
[06:49] <LabThug_hm> At least give me a friggen text box I can type in!!!!
[06:49] <intelikey> lastnode so yeah some of the ef servers require ident.  i just let the login run till it hits one that doesn't
[06:49] <lastnode> intelikey, right, i was klined from this cycling server as well at one time. some jackass from my ip range i guess
[06:50] <intelikey> it happens  ;/
[06:51] <uXp> shoot how do oyu back up the xorg.conmf fiel again?
[06:51] <uXp> i can't type
[06:51] <uXp> backing up the xorg.conf file?
[06:51] <intelikey> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf .
[06:51] <LabThug_hm> uXp: cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.back
[06:52] <LabThug_hm> but you need to do that BEFORE you start editing
[06:52] <uXp> yes i know
[06:52] <uXp> im trying ot back it up now beforei start
[06:53] <kieranDOA> uXp, just a suggestion, why dont you read up on basic linux commands? it might help
[06:53] <uXp> that might help
[06:53] <Geoffrey2> ok, if I'm running a program from terminal, do I need to leave the terminal window open in order for it to keep running?
[06:53] <kieranDOA> uXp: http://www.ss64.com/bash/ is pretty helpful
[06:53] <intelikey> !cli
[06:53] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[06:53] <krazykit> Geoffrey2: unless you background the process, yes
[06:54] <LabThug_hm> Geoffrey2: unless you put a '&' at the end, yes
[06:57] <Geoffrey2> so the following command would not do that then? --> cd "/home/jeffrey/BOINC" && exec ./boinc $@
[06:57] <intelikey> how do you send a file over this direct client to client thing in irc ?
[06:57] <dick-richardson> How do I add the debian menu? sudo apt-get install menu or menu-xdg doesn't seem to be adding it. I only have the main menu installed...
[06:57] <crimsun_> dick-richardson: you need both menu and menu-xdg
[06:57] <crimsun_> intelikey: client-specific, usually, but it's usually /dcc send nick file
[06:58] <uXp> if a xorg file is corrupted is there a way to log into ubunto and repace it?
[06:58] <KanRiNiN> Can anyone help point me to a good forum post about openafs?  I can't seem to find the command to start the client and configure openafs.
[06:59] <LabThug_hm> uXp, if the Xserver fails to start, ubuntu will default to the command line, and you can login that way
[06:59] <MTecknology> What port does vncserver use??
[06:59] <LabThug_hm> anyone in here know how to add a backend to CUPS?
[07:00] <photojeff> When using the live CD, Dapper... it will not go past the inital double click on the icon. The desktop icon to install....
[07:00] <uXp> oh ok thx
[07:00] <uXp> ha guys i googled it, yay me, lol
[07:01] <alex_montandon> hey guys, ive been trying to get my wireless working the last few days but i cant... can someone look at this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193416 and offer any suggestions please?
[07:02] <dick-richardson> crimsun_: thank you!
[07:02] <LabThug_hm> alex_montandon: you don't get a DHCP assigned IP from the router?
[07:02] <piratepenguin> how come there's no 'alsaconf' command on ubuntu 6.06?
[07:03] <photojeff> anyone know why Dapper will not start the install?
[07:03] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: it hasn't been in Ubuntu.
[07:03] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: it's being redone to some degree in Edgy
[07:03] <intelikey> piratepenguin dpkg-reconfigure blah
[07:03] <LabThug_hm> alex_montandon: also, you don't want to use the same IP addy as the router.  bad things will happen
[07:03] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: what card do you have?
[07:04] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: it's not for me.. another guy can't get alsa to work since installing his nForce sound drivers.. I suggested using 'alsaconf', since it's solved alsa problems for me before, but ubuntu doesn't have it...
[07:04] <LabThug_hm> try IP == 192.168.1.100, Subnet == 255.255.255.0 and Gateway == 192.168.1.1  and call me in the morning
[07:04] <alex_montandon> LabThug_hm: hey kl thanks
[07:04] <alex_montandon> ill go try it out
[07:05] <alex_montandon> do i need dns as well?
[07:05] <LabThug_hm> try doing the DHCP way first
[07:05] <LabThug_hm> if that works, the DNS will work too :-)
[07:05] <harry> who here knows turbogears?? at www.turbogears.org
[07:05] <alex_montandon> wats dhcp? th info u gave me before? sori for my newbieness
[07:05] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: nforce* are supported out of the box.
[07:06] <schalken> is anyone using epiphany?
[07:06] <LabThug_hm> no, DHCP means that the router will give your computer all the info it needs to continue
[07:06] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: please ask him to pastebin the output from ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[07:06] <harry> who here knows turbogears?? at www.turbogears.org
[07:06] <LabThug_hm> 90% of those WRT routers use them
[07:06] <alex_montandon> how do i do that?
[07:06] <crimsun_> schalken: I am.
[07:07] <LabThug_hm> alex_montandon: click the "Configuration" drop down and select DHCP
[07:07] <schalken> crimsun_: have you found the fonts to be too small by default, for example at www.google.com?
[07:07] <crimsun_> schalken: no, they look quite nice (1024x768 lcd)
[07:07] <alex_montandon> kl thanks, so then i dont need to enter ip nd stuff right?
[07:08] <LabThug_hm> right, if DHCP works, you'll get those automatically
[07:08] <schalken> csrimsun_: do you have flash installed?
[07:09] <alex_montandon> kl thanks :D, also, do u know if it will freeze the computer when i connect? or did i t just do that because i entered the wrond detials?
[07:09] <alex_montandon> *details
[07:09] <LabThug_hm> probably because of the wrong details, but I don't know for sure
[07:09] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: he wanted the nforce drivers so he could "skype and play games at the same time"... http://pastebin.ca/64108
[07:10] <Sivik> !file
[07:10] <Sivik> !manager
[07:10] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sivik
[07:10] <alex_montandon> cool thanks so much :D
[07:10] <Healot> Nautilus
[07:11] <Sivik> Healot: i installed one, not nautilus, something else
[07:11] <SAM_theman> I got my problem fixed!!!
[07:11] <intelikey> /exec nautilus &
[07:11] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: he won't be able to do that w/ alsa. He would need the Nvidia-provided 'nvsound' driver, which is oss-based.
[07:11] <Sivik> i don't want nautilus, i have something else, but i can't remember what i installed the other day
[07:11] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: ask him to ``sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0''
[07:12] <Healot> Sivik: you need your RAM fix?
[07:12] <intelikey> Sivik dpkg -l | grep file
[07:12] <Sivik> i found it
[07:12] <intelikey> Sivik and what is it ?
[07:13] <Sivik> rox-filer
[07:13] <DerikOlsson> almost to working bcm4318... I can detect networks now, but can't connect... any suggestions?
[07:13] <intelikey> k
[07:14] <Sivik> DerikOlsson, go ask in #bcm-users on this server
[07:14] <harry> Sivik: do you know how to install turbogears. ???
[07:14] <DerikOlsson> oh wow it's got it's own channel now lol
[07:14] <DerikOlsson> thx
[07:14] <intelikey> i've never used rox-filer   i've tried nautilus konqueror gentoo xfe mc hmmm and something else i don't recall right now.
[07:14] <harry> Sivik: www.turbogears.org
[07:14] <Sivik> i will go look
[07:15] <intelikey> harry may i just ask what turbogears is supposed to do ?
[07:15] <Sivik> harry: what langs is that for?
[07:15] <harry> Sivik: python
[07:15] <ChakRa> guys trying to find a good documentaion on integrating samba server made specifically in Dapper and integrating it with win 2003 K server ? if you have suggestion that would be awomse
[07:15] <Sivik> intelikey, its a web development program
[07:15] <harry> intelikey: its a framework for web programming. using python
[07:15] <intelikey> ok.  just wondering
[07:16] <ChakRa> i mean i got the samba server running now the integrating it with 2003 server active directory is being a pain
[07:16] <LabThug_hm> harry: like rails?
[07:16] <Sivik> harry: did you follow the instructions on the website?
[07:16] <SAM_theman> hehe my games work now
[07:16] <harry> Sivik: i exactly did
[07:16] <Sivik> do you have python installed?
[07:17] <Sivik> what is the error you are getting?
[07:17] <intelikey> if he's got ubuntu he's got python
[07:17] <Sivik> what version of python do you have?
[07:18] <Sivik> harry: you have python 2.4 right
[07:18] <ChefWill> anyone know if its possible to get the totem xine plugin for ff15 support scrolling/fast forwarding of videos
[07:18] <harry> LabThug_hm: i don't what rails is
[07:18] <LabThug_hm> rails is a web dev framework that uses ruby
[07:18] <harry> Sivik: yeah i have. even the latest version
[07:18] <Sivik> whats the error your getting
[07:18] <rufnut> hi dudes
[07:18] <UltraStupidNoob> I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 this morning and managed to delete the ability to administer users from both the accounts I set up!
[07:18] <Sivik> rufnut, what up
[07:18] <harry> Sivik: i have python 2.4.3
[07:18] <Sivik> harry: ok, whats the error you are getting
[07:19] <rufnut> hi Sivik just downloading the ubuntu dvd
[07:19] <Sivik> ok
[07:19] <Sivik> rufnut: thats dapper right
[07:19] <armedking> Anyone got a good doc that helps me get my 3d support back for an ati radeon 9200? Tnx
[07:19] <rufnut> I do have a question as in does it have kde packages as standard ?
[07:19] <uXp> if i accidently uninstalled my nvidia-glx can i reinstall it without using hte synaptic package manger?
[07:19] <Sivik> rufnut, yes
[07:19] <harry> Sivik. what's the address of the pastebin at ubuntu. i'll paste it there
[07:19] <intelikey> !ati
[07:19] <ubotu> ati is, like, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:19] <Sivik> uXp: yes
[07:19] <intelikey> armedking ^
[07:19] <uXp> becauise last time i used it i removed everything in ubuntu everyhting  ieamn
[07:19] <mikekamrath> I am testing out the 2.6.16.20 kernel but I did not put the scsi in the kernel (onlky as modules). Now i get kernel panic cuz there's no initrd image. could anyone tell me where i can download mkinitrd?
[07:20] <uXp> Sivik: how?
[07:20] <Sivik> uXp: get it via apt-get install nvidia
[07:20] <armedking> intelikey: Tnx m8 ubotu is verry handy do haha
[07:20] <Sivik> uXp: sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[07:21] <Sivik> uXp: should install everything you need
[07:21] <rufnut> does anyone know if the Ubuntu dvd has kde packages ?
[07:21] <intelikey> mikekamrath there is no scsi support in any default ub kernel it's all modules
[07:21] <Sivik> rufnut, most likey
[07:21] <harry> Sivik: whats nvidia kernel for???
[07:21] <Sivik> rufnut: as long as you install kde
[07:21] <rufnut> thanks sivik I hope it does
[07:21] <Sivik> rufnut: yw
[07:21] <Sivik> harry: don't worry about it
[07:21] <uXp> Sivik: that installs the nvidia-glx and the xserver-kernel right?
[07:22] <intelikey> mikekamrath you need mkinitramfs   should be installed
[07:22] <rufnut> i have kubuntu on my old cpx 500 dell laptop and i am so impressed with it
[07:22] <Sivik> uXp: you may have to install via sudo apt-get install xserver-kernel
[07:22] <harry> Sivik: the url for the pastebin at ubuntu???
[07:22] <Sivik> !pastebin
[07:22] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[07:22] <xice> Question for the XGL Experts: when i run compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade ... all the window decorations completely dissaspear, what have i done wrong?
[07:23] <Sivik> !nvidia
[07:23] <ubotu> [nvidia]  Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:23] <Sivik> follow that uXp
[07:23] <uXp> Sivik: i get this error : blanked@blanked:~$ sudo apt-get install xserver-kernel
[07:23] <uXp> Reading package lists... Done
[07:23] <uXp> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:23] <uXp> E: Couldn't find package xserver-kernel
[07:23] <xice> ive been through that
[07:24] <Flannel> uXp: that's because that's not a package.  what are you trying to install?
[07:24] <Sivik> !tell uXp about nvidia
[07:24] <LabThug_hm> isni't it xserver-xorg?
[07:24] <Sivik> follow those instructions
[07:24] <Sivik> LabThug_hm, yeah
[07:24] <mikekamrath> thx intelikey i'll get it now with synaptic
[07:24] <harry> Sivik: this what showed up
[07:24] <harry> Sivik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15509
[07:24] <Pupeno> !mp3
[07:24] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:25] <rufnut> thanks ubotu
[07:25] <xice> Sivik, my nvidia driver is correctly installed
[07:25] <intelikey> uXp apt-cache search xserver
[07:25] <Sivik> xice: ok
[07:25] <wrath> hello everyone, I have a question please help if you can: I just set up ubuntu on my computer, since the operating system started the graphics and screen shake slighly, is there something I can do to fix it?
[07:25] <Sivik> xice: i was helping uXp
[07:25] <mikekamrath> intelikey duh it's installed
[07:25] <Flannel> harry: that looks like a problem with the turbogears website.
[07:25] <xice> Sivik, lol, ok ill wait
[07:25] <uXp> what does thta doe Sivk?
[07:25] <Sivik> uXp: it should install the drivers for you
[07:25] <Sivik> xice: whats your issue
[07:25] <rufnut> did you try changing refresh rate wrath ?
[07:25] <uXp> ah ok
[07:26] <jackssssss> how do i reset the root password and my users current password through the terminal?
[07:26] <harry> Flannel: when i was still is breezy someone help me intall the turbogears and it was a success.
[07:26] <wrath> No I shall try now
[07:26] <intelikey> mikekamrath you need to use mkinitramfs even if mkinitrd is also installed.   scsi and late modle kernels dude
[07:26] <xice> Sivik, its getting compiz/XGL to work on my PC , 6600GT
[07:26] <Sivik> ok, why on earth are you using compiz on a nvidia card?
[07:26] <Flannel> xice: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL relatedstuffs.
[07:26] <harry> Flannel: but when i reformated my computer and upgraded to Dapperdrake. doin the same process doesnt work
[07:26] <LabThug_hm> jackssssss: man passwd
[07:26] <tuxtheslacker> hey, are there any amarok alternatives that are as good as amarok and have all of the functionality?
[07:26] <Sivik> Flannel: its not a xgl issue
[07:27] <xice> Sivik, what do u suggest?
[07:27] <Sivik> !tell xice about nvidia
[07:27] <Sivik> follow those instructions
[07:27] <Sivik> !nvidia
[07:27] <ubotu> nvidia is probably Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:27] <harry> Flannel: it could be the website. or there should be another alternative
[07:27] <Flannel> harry: right, but it's a problem with their website, if you look, you see it can't find a file on their site.  Ubuntu has nothing to do with it.
[07:27] <Sivik> xice: thats what i used for my 6600
[07:27] <harry> Flannel: thanks. 90% it could be
[07:27] <Flannel> harry: contact their support, since if they fix their site, or their setup script, it should work.  Ubuntu has no control over either.
[07:28] <harry> Flannel: did you tried to install it??
[07:28] <Sivik> harry: it looks like a server on their end issue
[07:28] <xice> Sivik, , the nvidia logo comes up when i boot gnome, so its already installed right?
[07:28] <Flannel> harry: I did not.
[07:28] <Sivik> xice: yes
[07:28] <wrath> Its still does it but less often, is there anything else you would suggest?
[07:28] <Sivik> xice: run glxgears -printfps
[07:28] <Sivik> and tell me what the output in fps is
[07:28] <Sivik> should be in the 4k range
[07:28] <Fassa> can anyone advise me where i can find a good How To for a network install?? im trying to install ubuntu on a laptop that has no cdrom drive and will not boot from a usb drive any help is appreciated
[07:28] <xice> Sivik, ok
[07:28] <piratepenguin> tuxtheslacker: not likely, amaroK is quite the program... but check out banshee (which runs on mono)
[07:28] <snoops> xice I've give you a hand if you want to setup xgl/compiz over in #ubuntu-xgl :)
[07:29] <xice> glxgears -printfps
[07:29] <Sivik> yes
[07:29] <xice> wait 2 secs
[07:29] <harry> Flannel: how were you able to say that its the problem of their backend??
[07:29] <xice> 13680 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2711.412 F
[07:29] <Sivik> xice: your fine
[07:29] <xice> snoops, ok in a min
[07:29] <xice> Sivik, ok, soo...
[07:29] <Sivik> xice: normally anything over 1k is 3d acc
[07:29] <xice> yeah agree
[07:29] <xice> so, xgl...
[07:29] <Sivik> xice: you don't need xgl
[07:29] <Sivik> xice: its setup right
[07:29] <xice> yeah i want it
[07:29] <xice> oh ok
[07:29] <Sivik> xice: you already have it
[07:29] <xice> so what then?
[07:29] <Sivik> xice: its part of the nvidia drivers
[07:30] <krazykit> Sivik: no, it's not.
[07:30] <Sivik> xice: there isn't an issue
[07:30] <tuxtheslacker> piratepenguin, the db is kind of corrupted on amarok for me :-(. it finds four of some songs, and two of others, and it's ugly.
[07:30] <xice> so how do i get the fancy interface then?
[07:30] <Sivik> krazykit: so whats the point of it?
[07:30] <krazykit> Sivik: xgl is the opengl accelerated x-server.
[07:30] <Sivik> xice: what do you mean in fancy interface?
[07:30] <intelikey> Fassa not to rub salt in an open wound but why do you have a lappy with 'boot only the windows i installed punk' attatude ?
[07:30] <Flannel> Fassa: searching the wiki for net install, this looks promising: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[07:30] <Sivik> like fancy theme?  like xcfe or enlightenment?
[07:30] <krazykit> you can use it to do the fun compiz interface, sivic
[07:30] <xice> Sivik,  the cube thing
[07:30] <Sivik> xice: i have no clue what cube thing your talking about
[07:30] <xice> lol ,
[07:30] <Flannel> harry: because the error the script gave,says it can't find a file on their site.
[07:31] <piratepenguin> tuxtheslacker: you could 'rm -rf ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/', I think
[07:31] <xice> ok, ill see what snoops has to say, thanks anyway
[07:31] <krazykit> Sivik: compiz is fancy eye candy.  i suggest you read up before you tell someone they have something if you're not sure what it is :_P
[07:31] <Sivik> harry: thats normally a problem with their webiste, and not your end
[07:31] <Flannel> harry: Ubuntu doesn't control that script, or their site, so it's obviously not ubuntu related
[07:31] <Sivik> krazykit, well, i knew he didn't need it
[07:31] <snoops> Sivik there's a cube plugin for compiz which allows you to see your desktop as a virtual cube, instead of 4 seperate desktops by default
[07:31] <Sivik> snoops: ok
[07:32] <tuxtheslacker> piratepenguin, I gotta look that out. first I'm going to try amarok. I'd like something that was meant for gnome too :-D not Qt :-D.
[07:32] <harry> Flannel: did you also checked this??? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15509
[07:32] <Fassa> intelikey: did i say something wrong or am i misunderstanding what your saying? i did not mean to come off with a punk attitude
[07:32] <piratepenguin> tuxtheslacker: banshee and rhythmbox
[07:32] <Sivik> snoops: hence the reason why i said i had no clue what it was
[07:32] <intelikey> Fassa no. no.  that's not what i meant at all.
[07:32] <Flannel> harry: yes, that's what I was looking at.
[07:33] <Flannel> Fassa: he meant the laptop manufacturer, he was just curious, did you get my URL?
[07:33] <intelikey> Fassa the laptops makers was what i referred too
[07:33] <digitalslave> anyone have problems with dapper not running games in full screen such as quake3?
[07:33] <harry> Flannel: So i just have to wait for them to fix the site then
[07:33] <lonegeek> does anyone know of a lightweight xvid video encoder similiar to autogk for windows?
[07:33] <Fassa> ahhh ok lol sorry completely misunderstood what ya said sorry, and yes i am looking at it now thank you very much
[07:33] <kismet_> is there something as functional as TextPad (Mac) in Linux?
[07:33] <gavagai> can anyone recommend a video card that works well in linux and doesn't require a fan?
[07:34] <Flannel> harry: right.  You might try asking them about it, via email or if they have a forum, or whatever.  It's a problem they need to deal with, not anything Ubuntu can do about it.
[07:34] <gavagai> for watching videos, not gaming really
[07:34] <krazykit> gavagai: any nvidia card that's passively cooled, really.
[07:34] <digitalslave> also have a game called orbz that just quits
[07:34] <redrum> ati right digitalslave ?
[07:34] <digitalslave> nvidia
[07:35] <gavagai> ok thanks
[07:35] <intelikey> did he say ati ?
[07:35] <digitalslave> and set right - xgl runs great but not running while trying to game
[07:35] <tuxtheslacker> piratepenguin, ur fix worked!
[07:35] <intelikey> digitalslave you mean ati ?
[07:35] <piratepenguin> tuxtheslacker: cool :)
[07:35] <digitalslave> nvidia fx 5600 256
[07:36] <SAM_theman> Guys i can't lauch any programs whats this mean --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15510
[07:36] <Flannel> digitalslave: doesn't sound like a graphics card problem if XGL works on it.
[07:36] <intelikey> yeah i'v got nvidia  :)
[07:36] <digitalslave> yeah dunno its puzzling cuase ive never had this issue with previous ubuntu builds
[07:36] <Flannel> SAM_theman: you running XGL?
[07:37] <LabThug_hm> SAM_theman: usually that means you don't have an X server running
[07:37] <SAM_theman> nope
[07:37] <SAM_theman> Whats you mean??
[07:37] <digitalslave> no xgl is off now - just made a launcher to start it if in just farting around on the net
[07:37] <SAM_theman> My nvidia card works even my games
[07:37] <tuxtheslacker> hey, what is the widget called that houses all the icons of programs running in the background?
[07:37] <Sivik> SAM_theman, what kind of card?
[07:37] <SAM_theman> Nvidia Geforce 6600GT
[07:37] <digitalslave> it will run quake 3 just not full screen
[07:37] <Sivik> what kind of fps when running glxgears?
[07:38] <SAM_theman> who me
[07:38] <Sivik> digitalslave, then just don't run it in full screen
[07:38] <digitalslave> then it runs like crap
[07:38] <Fassa> t5hanks again for the help have a god evening/morning/afternoon/night
[07:38] <Sivik> SAM_theman, fps in glxgears
[07:38] <piratepenguin> SAM_theman: try this: 'xhost +'
[07:38] <|lostbyte|> !glxgears
[07:38] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark" or "glxgears -printfps"
[07:38] <SAM_theman> k
[07:38] <LabThug_hm> you know what it's 1:30 at night.  FUCK CUPS.  It shouldn't be this hard to print something on ubuntu.  I'm going to bed.
[07:38] <digitalslave> and other games wont run at all
[07:38] <krazykit> guh, glxgears is not a benchmark.  it's not even a psuedobenchmark.  it depends on too much stuff
[07:38] <Hobbsee> !language
[07:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[07:38] <SAM_theman> samuelp@General:~$ glxgears -printfps
[07:38] <SAM_theman> 35395 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7078.816 FPS
[07:38] <SAM_theman> 34821 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6964.083 FPS
[07:38] <UltraStupidNoob> How can I restore administrator access if I've stupidly deleted it for both of the only defined users?
[07:38] <Sivik> SAM_theman, nice
[07:38] <Sivik> i have a 6600 and get just under 4k
[07:38] <UltraStupidNoob> Or is that even possible without re-installing?
[07:39] <intelikey> SAM_theman that error you posted looks like X not running   or no -display  set on the cli
[07:39] <|lostbyte|> THis sucks..
[07:39] <krazykit> UltraStupidNoob: boot into the recovery part, fix it
[07:39] <Flannel> UltraStupidNoob: rescue kernel, at the grub menu
[07:39] <|lostbyte|> i used to get around 1000 fps in mandriva.. but now only 500..
[07:39] <SAM_theman> access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[07:39] <UltraStupidNoob> Thank you!
[07:39] <Sivik> what is a benchmark test for fps for linux?
[07:40] <SAM_theman> Sivik, yo buddie u install from ubutnu repo... nvidia
[07:40] <Sivik> yes
[07:40] <intelikey> Sivik is there one ?
[07:40] <|lostbyte|> same here..
[07:40] <Sivik> intelikey, i have no clue
[07:40] <Sivik> intelikey, thats why i was asking
[07:40] <krazykit> quake3 :-P
[07:40] <|lostbyte|> i installed the non-legacy one..
[07:40] <SAM_theman> Buddie Don't use that one use the one from nvidia's site way better
[07:40] <chavo> just minimize the glxgears window, you'll get over 10k fps
[07:40] <|lostbyte|> SAM_theman, Really !
[07:40] <SAM_theman> And i can play my game about 20 FpS higher
[07:40] <intelikey> Sivik there may be but i have never heard of it.
[07:41] <Sivik> i can't ever get that one to allow me to install cause i have an x running
[07:41] <SAM_theman> Yup
[07:41] <lonegeek> yippie ...picasa finally works
[07:41] <Sivik> so i have no clue how to get around that
[07:41] <|lostbyte|> SAM_theman, which all packages i got to install before compiling it ?
[07:41] <krazykit> Sivik: drop to a console, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, install
[07:41] <piratepenguin> how can I make ESD output to OSS?
[07:41] <Sivik> actually, i get 16k when i minimize glxgears
[07:41] <gavagai> man even the budget stuff i'm finding on nvidia's site has fans
[07:42] <krazykit> lonegeek: build-essential, kernel headers
[07:42] <krazykit> gavagai: look on newegg, maybe?
[07:42] <digitalslave> whats the big deal with a fan?
[07:42] <SAM_theman> |lostbyte|, you go here my friend http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper#METHOD_2
[07:42] <gavagai> yeah i checked there, the cheapest ones have fans.  :)  still looking
[07:42] <lonegeek> krazykit: what?
[07:42] <rhalff> hi any AMD64 laptop tips ? I want a new one, it must look cool and be fast :)
[07:42] <|lostbyte|> SAM_theman, thanks.
[07:42] <intelikey> sivik you hit [ctrl] +[alt] +f1  and login then sudo killall gdm   and install then   sudo gdm && exit
[07:42] <gavagai> i already have a 6600gt in this room, i don't need anymore noise
[07:42] <SAM_theman> Follow what it says and then you'll be out of here
[07:42] <krazykit> lonegeek: tab completion screwup.
[07:42] <Sivik> intelikey, ok
[07:43] <lonegeek> krazykit: oh?
[07:43] <krazykit> silly people putting pipes before their names screws it all up
[07:43] <Sivik> i will download the file and then do that
[07:43] <digitalslave> sound proof the case
[07:43] <Flannel> gavagai: get some microphones and speakers and just noise cancel.
[07:43] <gavagai> i'm going to check that silent pc site
[07:43] <gavagai> Flannel, that sounds like a fun project
[07:43] <Flannel> it
[07:43] <Flannel> erm, it'll probably be easier ;)
[07:43] <intelikey> Sivik there is a wiki that can help ya
[07:44] <Sivik> intelikey, i had followed the wiki, but everytime i tried to go to the inti3, i would get a kernel panic
[07:44] <Sivik> i will do it your way this time
[07:45] <AlienX> Sivik, did you perhaps try init3? :)
[07:45] <Sivik> AlienX, thats where i was getting the kernel panic
[07:45] <KanRiNiN> So, I installed ubuntu for openafs because it didn't work in Suse, and then realized in doesn't work in reiser.  Can I convert the file system?  Or do I have to reinstall the whole thing.
[07:45] <Sivik> AlienX, i told you that a few days back when i was trying to do it
[07:45] <Healot> Kernel Panic! Arghhh!!!
[07:46] <Sivik> intelikey, can i do a killall for an xdm
[07:46] <Mersault> if it's possible, how would I go about using a mythtv apt repo that's built for breezy on dapper? has enough changed that the packages wont work?
[07:46] <intelikey> AlienX Sivik why init3 ???   in ubuntu runlevel 3 (i assume you mean init 3) is the same as runlevel 2 (the default) .... ?
[07:47] <Sivik> intelikey, thats what he was telling me a few days back to do
[07:47] <intelikey> Sivik yes indeed you can.
[07:47] <Sivik> and it was kernel panicing when i was trying to install the problem
[07:47] <KanRiNiN> reinstall?
[07:47] <Sivik> intelikey, i don't have gdm installed
[07:47] <intelikey> me either.
[07:48] <piratepenguin> is it possible to make the system sounds use OSS (or better: gstreamer) or to make ESD output to OSS?
[07:48] <krazykit> piratepenguin: um, gstreamer is not an output.  it's best to use alsa, and dump esd altogether.
[07:48] <intelikey> something wrong with alsa ?
[07:49] <piratepenguin> yea - this guy uses OSS drivers (not me)
[07:49] <piratepenguin> and he wants the system sounds to work...
[07:49] <jackssssss> can someone help me limit so that only i can ssh into my box, have users able to host file on the box, and have them chrooted into their home directory
[07:49] <piratepenguin> is it possible?
[07:49] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: set the sink to 'oss' with ``gstreamer-properties''
[07:50] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: but the system sounds use esd, not gstreamer...
[07:50] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: then remove libesd-alsa0 and restart esd
[07:51] <digitalslave> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[07:52] <sivik> ok, i am trying to install the nvidia drivers from the website but it keeps saying
[07:52] <sivik> gcc-version-check failed
[07:53] <Aphostile> Hello
[07:53] <Healot> sivik, you need to install gcc-3.4
[07:53] <jshriver> Hi :) this is my first time using Ubuntu
[07:53] <armedking> I tried adding 3d support for my ati 9200 using the xorg-driver-fglrx after reconfiguring xorg with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" glxinfo | grep rendering still says "direct rendering: No here's my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15511 any ideas?
[07:53] <sivik> healot: even if i have 4.0 installed?
[07:53] <Aphostile> How do you mount a fat32 file system not to be read only?
[07:53] <gharz> anybody who installed vmware server? i'm having problem.
[07:53] <jshriver> why can't I su to root? only way I can do it is to sudo bash
[07:53] <Healot> sivik: the compilation need gcc 3.4, don;t ask me why, blame those proprietors
[07:53] <sivik> ok
[07:53] <sivik> exit
[07:54] <Aphostile> My fat32 drives all seem to be mounted read only
[07:54] <armedking> jshriver: try "sudo su"
[07:54] <jshriver> thanks...
[07:54] <digg> hello. ubuntu newbie here. can someone please help me in xgl/compiz?
[07:54] <jshriver> are there more or less packages in ubuntu than debian ? I'm doing apt-cache now and can't find several things
[07:54] <Aphostile> I'm told it is possible for Linux to write fat32
[07:54] <jshriver> confused
[07:55] <Healot> the option rw
[07:55] <jshriver> aye fat32/vfat has been in the kernel for a decade... NTFS is just a little quirky
[07:55] <Healot> iether in fstab entry
[07:55] <Healot> or -o switch in mount command
[07:55] <Aphostile> oh i guess i oughta boot that way yeah no sense just doing it once
[07:55] <jshriver> for example I can't find xchat (normal not xchat-gnome) xawtv, etc..
[07:55] <Aphostile> tnks Healot
[07:55] <armedking> jshriver: about 18000 on my repository is that enough ;-)
[07:55] <Sammy> yo people
[07:55] <Sammy> its me SAM_theman
[07:55] <krazykit> jshriver: make sure to enable multiverse and universe
[07:55] <jshriver> how ?
[07:55] <Healot> e.g. mount -t vfat -o rw <> <>
[07:55] <Sammy> I had lost my connection
[07:56] <krazykit> ubotu: tell jshriver about repos
[07:56] <digg> hello. ubuntu newbie here. can someone please help me with xgl/compiz?
[07:56] <jshriver> I've been using debian for 6-7 years, but the latest batch of testing just messed up everything.. so wanted to try Ubuntu.. heard many good things about it
[07:56] <Healot> !xgl
[07:56] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:56] <krazykit> digg: no.  read the wiki, follow the giude.  i wouldn't recommend it to someone who
[07:56] <krazykit> 's new to linux
[07:56] <piratepenguin> crimsun_:   ALOT of packages (400MB of them) depend on libesd-alsa0 , I don't think it would be wise to remove it.....
[07:56] <Sivik> which version of gcc did i need to install?
[07:57] <krazykit> Sivik: 4
[07:57] <Healot> 3.4 sivik
[07:57] <krazykit> Healot: no, he needs gcc4 if he's running dapper
[07:57] <Sivik> still getting the gcc-version-check failed, i have 3.3, 3.4, and 4 installed
[07:57] <Healot> Sivik: prepend this CC="gcc-x.x" before the make command
[07:58] <Healot> welll before the ./*.run file
[07:58] <digg> krazykit: i know but i am not being lazy or anything. i followed http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 but i am stuck on step 3. no help? =(
[07:58] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: yep, you'll need to use equivs.
[07:58] <armedking> I tried adding 3d support for my ati 9200 using the xorg-driver-fglrx after reconfiguring xorg with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" glxinfo | grep rendering still says "direct rendering: No here's my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15511 any ideas?
[07:58] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: so what's the easiest way to sort it out?
[07:58] <Sivik> when i add CC... it says CC="gcc-4.0": command not found
[07:59] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: honestly? get an sb live.
[07:59] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: what do you mean by "equivs" - alternative packages to the 400MB ?
[07:59] <Sivik> i entered "sudo CC="gcc-4.0" ./NVIDIA......
[07:59] <krazykit> digg: don't use that guide.
[07:59] <Healot> Sivik: prepend
[07:59] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: equivs makes placeholders.
[07:59] <Healot> no append
[07:59] <Flashq009> I downloaded ubuntu, but forgot my pc does not have a cdwriter.. How do I get it onto cd?
[07:59] <Sivik> what is prepend?
[07:59] <krazykit> digg: use the guide on the ubuntu wiki.
[07:59] <crimsun_> Sivik: place it at the beginning.
[07:59] <Sivik> i did
[07:59] <Sivik> before the sudo?
[07:59] <krazykit> Sivik: before sudo
[07:59] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: don't really understand.. what should libesd-alsa0 be replaced with?
[07:59] <jshriver> hrm didnt see anything for multiverse, but added a bunch of "universe" options...
[08:00] <Aphostile> hmm it didn't work
[08:00] <jshriver> regular binary/source and security
[08:00] <Healot> thanls krazykit
[08:00] <Aphostile> did mount -o rw sda1
[08:00] <babo> can you watch online tv on linux ??
[08:00] <Sivik> still did the same thing
[08:00] <Aphostile> still mounted as read only
[08:00] <Sivik> same error about the gcc-version-check failed
[08:00] <Healot> !nvidia
[08:00] <Aphostile> umounted it first
[08:00] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:00] <Healot> just follow that guide...
[08:00] <rob> babo yes http://www.getdemocracy.com/downloads/#linux
[08:00] <krazykit> Sivik: try removing the other two gcc versions.  since you're running dapper, you really don't need them
[08:00] <digg> krazykit: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267 ? okay. but does it matter coz i already did step 2 on the first guide
[08:01] <jshriver> can you use apt for all installs?
[08:01] <babo> rob: cool, thanks. I don't suppose you know whether they have the soccer on there do you ?
[08:01] <Sivik> same error
[08:01] <rob> babo, no idea
[08:01] <Sivik> maybe it has something do with the libc stuff
[08:01] <Sivik> how do i install the libc crap
[08:01] <Healot> anyway I am in a conflict whether I should help people asking proprietary driver installation questions...
[08:02] <redrum> armedking, looks like you have nothing in your xorg.conf
[08:02] <Sivik> Healot, how do i install the libc stuff
[08:02] <bdmp> troy_s: I am back
[08:02] <jshriver> thanks everything works nicely :) amazed.. even my BTTV card works in tvtime :) couldnt get that to work in 2 months using debian
[08:02] <Healot> libc is installed by default, libc-dev is install when you install "build-essentials"
[08:03] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: if it's not possible or if you don't know how to make the system sounds use OSS then please say so..
[08:03] <jshriver> anyone know if mythtv works in Ubuntu?
[08:03] <Aphostile> i mount it writable but it doesn't take
[08:03] <ron_> i would like to resize my Ubuntu partition. is there a way to do this within Ubuntu?
[08:03] <Aphostile> if i chmod to writable
[08:03] <Aphostile> it doesn't take
[08:03] <jatilq> hey anyone know why on my laptop the usb stops working?
[08:03] <lonegeek> is there someway you have to configure LAME...no program will allow me to encode to lame ...i know its installed
[08:03] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: of course it's possible. You'll just get a lot of grey hairs.
[08:03] <redrum> Healot in the Case of ATi and 9200... 9550 and mobility cards people dont have much choice but to use the opensource drivers... but if you have more modern ATi you have no choice really but the prop. drivers
[08:03] <armedking> redrum: How's that. it says to use the fglrx driver. but it wont use rendering
[08:03] <Healot> Aphostile: are you trying to write on that volume while logging in as normal user?
[08:03] <jatilq> I had the problem in SUSE 10.1 but fixed it when I installed the madwifi smp drivers
[08:04] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: so how is it done? replace libesd-alsa0 with....?
[08:04] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: Here, do this: make a libesd-alsa0 equivs package versioned higher than what Ubuntu has, and install it.
[08:04] <krazykit> digg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/
[08:04] <Aphostile> yes
[08:04] <Sivik> how do you spell essentials
[08:04] <jatilq> but there is no match in ubuntu
[08:04] <armedking> redrum: Or am i overlooking something
[08:04] <krazykit> Sivik: build-essential
[08:04] <Aphostile> I did change it so all can write
[08:04] <jatilq> thanks in advance
[08:04] <Aphostile> or tried
[08:04] <Aphostile> it wouldn't take
[08:04] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: obviously the equivs-based libesd-alsa0 will be empty, so when you restart esd, it will use oss.
[08:04] <Aphostile> only root can write to fat32?
[08:04] <redrum> armedking it doesnt have any properties under your driver details
[08:04] <Bruno_> Hi all
[08:05] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: ahh, thanks
[08:05] <PHOTON> Hello all
[08:05] <Healot> Aphostile: then add the option "umask=000"
[08:05] <lonegeek> whats a simple to use video to xvid with a gui
[08:05] <Aphostile> to the mount command?
[08:05] <armedking> redrum: Yeah it's kind of empty huh, Any tips on getting it there.
[08:05] <Aphostile> or to chmod?
[08:05] <redrum> armedking you are using proprietary drivers?
[08:05] <Bruno_> does any of you know whether ubuntu by default has a means of writing to ntfs partitions?
[08:05] <Sivik> now its telling me its unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel
[08:05] <Healot> Aphostile: mount -t vfat -o rw,umask=0000
[08:05] <Aphostile> k
[08:05] <Aphostile> ty
[08:05] <babo> rob: darn, the .deb just throws up a load of dependencies ...
[08:06] <BrunoTorres> i mean, captive or something
[08:06] <armedking> redrum:  I followed this guide http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver
[08:06] <jatilq> anyone have any ideals?
[08:06] <Flannel> BrunoTorres: nope, captive isn't stable yet.
[08:06] <PHOTON> Hey guys
[08:06] <Healot> House is so addictive
[08:06] <PHOTON> how to register a nick with IRC
[08:06] <rob> babo, yeah I know, there has been a request to get it in Ubuntu proper though
[08:06] <redrum> !ati
[08:06] <ubotu> I heard ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[08:06] <Flannel> BrunoTorres: of course, you could install it, but it's still not stable.
[08:06] <PHOTON> can u please give me the command
[08:06] <Flannel> !tell PHOTON about register
[08:06] <ron_> Help plz, I would like to resize my Ubuntu partition. Is there a way to do this within Ubuntu?
[08:06] <BrunoTorres> Flannel: but, is there any other means?
[08:06] <Cornellius> Hey, somehow, I can't change my Gnome engine anymore
[08:06] <Sivik> ron_, no
[08:06] <BrunoTorres> to write to ntfs partitions, by default?
[08:06] <ron_> ok ty
[08:06] <Flannel> BrunoTorres: nope. Well, running windows
[08:06] <redrum> armedking, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is better
[08:07] <Aphostile> hmm the command didn't work
[08:07] <Cornellius> And I can't use the transparent menus
[08:07] <BrunoTorres> Flannel: hahaha
[08:07] <Sivik> ron_, when you go to resize the partition, it can't be mounted
[08:07] <armedking> redrum: I'll give it a try, Tnx man
[08:07] <babo> rob: shouldn't the .deb be able to resolve it's own dependencies ... ?
[08:07] <Aphostile> i did mount -t vfat -o rw,umask=0000 sda1
[08:07] <ron_> if i use partition magic will it mess ant thing up?
[08:07] <rob> babo, its a .deb for breezy
[08:07] <Aphostile> and it tells me usage info
[08:07] <Flannel> babo: only if it has a repository to pull from, a standalone obviously has a limited ability to.
[08:08] <redrum> armedking also try running the ati-config or fglrxconfig application
[08:08] <redrum> armedking depending on the drivers you are using
[08:08] <gharz> may i ask for help? i'm trying to install vmware and i've been following the howto ... i'm getting a message that says "A previous installation of VMware software has been detected." i've removed the vmware-player which i got from synaptic.
[08:08] <Healot> Aphostile: mount -t vfat -o rw,umask=0000 </dev/***> <folder to mount>
[08:09] <Healot> Aphostile: "man mount" to see more of mount syntax
[08:09] <armedking> redrum: Tnx for your time man
[08:09] <Aphostile> k
[08:09] <Healot> man could be the best help you could get in any UNIX system
[08:09] <redrum> armedking,  that 9200 card is havnig all sorts of issues
[08:10] <armedking> redrum: Yeah i'm swapping it for an nvidia card soon LOL
[08:10] <redrum> armedking same
[08:10] <jatilq> im getting the modprobe usb
[08:10] <armedking> redrum: What would you recomend?
[08:10] <jatilq> module usb not found
[08:10] <babo> Flannel: why doesn't it pull from the universe (if it can) ? ... it's not much a .deb if it has missing dependencies. They'd be better off just sending the source code + static libraries, or maybe just the binary.
[08:11] <alth> Ok, I'll ask for the third time in three days, and maybe someone can help me now...I have onboard 5.1 sound, and 5.1 speakers. Ubuntu is only using the front three, not the sub or the rear ones. Can anyone help me fix this?
[08:12] <cyphase> i'm bored :)
[08:12] <Kachingo> Howdy
[08:12] <crimsun_> alth: pastebin your ``amixer'' output
[08:12] <alth> crimsun_: Righto.
[08:13] <gharz> anybody here who's using VMware server?
[08:13] <gharz> i need some help.
[08:13] <gharz> please.
[08:13] <redrum> armedking, depends on your system if agp in mid july there will be some 7600 cards released that should be decent...
[08:13] <miguelsr> !mencoder
[08:13] <ubotu> miguelsr: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:13] <miguelsr> !adsl
[08:13] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[08:13] <Kachingo> Would anyone be able to help me with a problem I'm getting upgrading from 5.10 to 6.06 or whatever it is?
[08:13] <Cornellius> What will be new in Ubuntu October ? Why so fast ?
[08:13] <krazykit> !ask
[08:13] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:13] <miguelsr> !mplayer
[08:13] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:14] <Aphostile> can i just put rw,umask=000 into fstab?
[08:14] <krazykit> Cornellius: because the release cycle is 6 months.
[08:14] <captcheckov2> anyone know of a package for 6.06 net::dbus its a perl package
[08:14] <Healot> yes, Aphostile
[08:14] <Yoosah> gotta love it
[08:14] <Healot> the same option can be applied in fstab entry
[08:14] <Flannel> Cornellius: because 6.06 was delayed 2 months, so were shortening 6.10 to get back ontrack.  And, EVERYTHING will be new.  Well, not everything, but, developers are welcome to add anything new they want.
[08:14] <Cornellius> krazykit: They really respect the schedule ? Nice
[08:14] <alth> crimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15513
[08:14] <krazykit> Cornellius: well... not for this release.
[08:15] <Cornellius> Flannel: Ok, I've heard it was delayed yeah
[08:15] <Cornellius> I also heard that Frozen Bubble delayed  Breezy
[08:15] <Cornellius> Highly doubt that rumor is true thoughn
[08:15] <Cornellius> *through
[08:16] <penguinwhoflew> how do i turn xgl back on if it was on before and then mysteriously turned off...?
[08:16] <MaverickHunter> Hey everyone. I am looking for someone who can give instructions on how to run a wifi card in simple terms
[08:16] <Aphostile> ty for yer help
[08:16] <Yoosah> better late then never.. deb styley
[08:16] <crimsun_> alth: so, amixer set 'Surround' 80%,on && amixer set 'Center' on && amixer set 'LFE' 80%,on
[08:16] <Cornellius> I prefer later and stable
[08:16] <Flannel> penguinwhoflew: #ubuntu-xgl, it depends on how you turned it on to begin with
[08:16] <Cornellius> Flannel: XGL and compiz ?
[08:17] <alth> Done Crimsun.
[08:17] <Flannel> Cornellius: they'll almost certainly be in Edgy, yes.
[08:17] <Cornellius> I'm not an eye-candy user, but I might take a look nonetheless
[08:17] <MaverickHunter> I cannot get ndiswrapper to install/work at all. :/
[08:17] <crimsun_> alth: now try totem with a multichannel file or dvd
[08:18] <MaverickHunter> And I cannot get this other thing... Acer_aspi to run either
[08:18] <crimsun_> alth: (or vlc or gxine or your app of choice)
[08:18] <Cornellius> I would like to get a Cribbage game for Linux. Anyone knows one ?
[08:19] <alth> crimsun_: Those new volume switches don't change anything, the only one that changes anything is 'PCM'.
[08:19] <Cornellius> Cribbage's like, my favorite card game :)
[08:19] <pingveno> Somehow a directory in a vfat partition I'm using got corrupted, so I'd like to remove it. However, I can't seem to remove it with "rm -rf directory". How could I remove the directory?
[08:19] <crimsun_> alth: if you don't have a multichannel sound file, try something like ``aplay -Dplug:surround51 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[08:20] <burepe2> troy_s: this is bdmp are you gettin my pm?
[08:20] <alth> That did nothing.
[08:20] <MaverickHunter> So yeah, if anyone can give me tips and such on running a wifi card on an Aspire 5002WLMi system, please PM me. Thanks :D
[08:20] <steveO_> pingveno: shouldn't it be rm -rf "<directory>"
[08:20] <crimsun_> alth: nothing? You don't hear /anything/ ?
[08:21] <Cornellius> !ask Wifi
[08:21] <ubotu> Cornellius: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:21] <newuserak> what does it mean that when i plug in my pcmcia wifi card, it says "localhost kernel: [4297040.848000]  mrv8k: probe of 0000:07:00.0                failed with error -2?"
[08:21] <pingveno> crimsun_: oh, yeah, that was what I was using
[08:21] <crimsun_> alth: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*''
[08:21] <newuserak> it recognizes my marvell chipset card, but somehow dies before it works
[08:22] <pingveno> Would it be best to just back up and reformat?
[08:22] <alth> Righto.
[08:22] <digg> hello. i tried the ubuntu xgl wiki. i rebooted as instructed and now i cant even logon. it boots fine but stuck on a fullscreen nvidia splash screen. help please
[08:22] <Flannel> digg: #ubuntu-xgl for xgl support
[08:23] <made> digg: xgl?
[08:23] <nysosym> good morning
[08:23] <digg> Flannel: thanks
[08:23] <Flannel> !tell made about xgl
[08:23] <rufnut> xgl is over rated anyways
[08:24] <alth> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15515
[08:24] <made> ohh I see
[08:24] <made> I agree by just reading the wiki.. waste of time I think
[08:25] <Flannel> its eyecandy, some people like eyecandy
[08:25] <rufnut> i guess if you have over a 6600 gt card it would be worthwhile
[08:25] <made> I do to but I prefer it in other forms..
[08:25] <Flannel> actually, Ive got a 32mb nvidia, runs fine.
[08:25] <made> <-- 256mb
[08:25] <rufnut> naaah
[08:25] <rufnut> not for  me
[08:25] <Flannel> one nice, real thing is real transparency for windows.
[08:26] <rufnut> i will wait till its pretty stable and integrated to xorg 7.1
[08:26] <Flannel> there are some nice features, independant of the candy.
[08:26] <made> ok then, is it worth going thru the trouble though?
[08:26] <pingveno> yum, eyecandy :)
[08:26] <crimsun_> alth: ah, surround with an HDA. You're out of luck.
[08:26] <rufnut> i had some issues with xvmc
[08:26] <chavo> for me xgl is actually faster
[08:26] <alth> I am? There's nothing I can do? That sucks :(
[08:26] <rufnut> what card chavo ?
[08:26] <crimsun_> alth: just for curiosity, tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[08:26] <neutrinomass> chavo: It is for everybody :)
[08:27] <chavo> all the drawing is done by gpu
[08:27] <alth> crimsun_: Mixers:0: Realtek ALC880
[08:27] <crimsun_> alth: oh it's /doable/ but not easily. You need to configure custom routes.
[08:27] <alth> :\
[08:27] <chavo> the facy effects are just a side effect, for me asnyway
[08:27] <made> I have a problem with flash.. all flash plays fine.. no errors.. but they appear to be a bit laggy at times. I have a 8mbit connection..
[08:27] <crimsun_> alth: if you're lucky someone may have gone through the trouble already.
[08:27] <CaptainMorgan> how can I get amarok to stop flying through songs without playing them? I thought I had the correct codecs.. cuz amarok was playing last week...
[08:27] <alth> Oh?
[08:28] <crimsun_> alth: yeah, try a Web search engine
[08:28] <CaptainMorgan> any suggestions?
[08:28] <crimsun_> "alsa alc880 surround51 route"
[08:28] <made> any suggestions for me?
[08:28] <sjust_> recomended for showing cpu temps on panel
[08:28] <alth> Thanks Crimsun ^_^
[08:28] <piratepenguin> crimsun_:  now when he runs gnome-sound-properties he gets this error:  "gnome-sound-properties: error while loading shared libraries: libesd.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[08:28] <rufnut> does anyone know what ver kde is on ubuntu dvd 6.06 ?
[08:29] <bennyboy> 3.53?
[08:29] <bennyboy> 3.5.3?
[08:29] <Flannel> rufnut: dapper is all the same.
[08:29] <rufnut> nobody has confirmed which version :-(
[08:29] <Healot> 3.5.2
[08:29] <made> look it up on the wiki
[08:29] <Healot> 3
[08:30] <rufnut> i couldnt see it there
[08:30] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: have him apt-get build-dep libesd-alsa0 and change the configure option in debian/rules
[08:30] <Warbo> rufnut: I'm sure it is 3.5, but don't know any minor version numbers
[08:30] <Healot> kubuntu.org
[08:30] <bennyboy> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[08:30] <Flannel> rufnut: ask in #kubuntu, they'll be able to tell you
[08:30] <made> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kubuntu
[08:30] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: sorry, apt-get build-dep libesd-alsa0 && apt-get source libesd-alsa0, /then/ change the configure option in debian/rules
[08:30] <rufnut> its the ubuntu dvd i am using not kubuntu
[08:30] <alth> Hmm, doesn't look like anyone's done it, Crimsun. Guess I'll have to buy a sound card or put up with it :P
[08:30] <bennyboy> 3.5.2
[08:31] <Warbo> rufnut: Ubuntu and Kubunti use the same packages, but install different ones by default (GNOME vs KDE)
[08:31] <penguinwhoflew> ok, compiz needs the composite extension, but every time i enable it, my direct rendering won't start, making compiz slow and useless. what the hell.
[08:31] <made> rufnut: if you are using the flat ubuntu dvd 6.06 then you have Gnome
[08:31] <CaptainMorgan> !gstreamer
[08:31] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaptainMorgan
[08:31] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: debian/rules ?
[08:31] <rufnut> so you are not sure if kde is even on the dvd ?
[08:31] <Flannel> penguinwhoflew: you might try asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:31] <bennyboy> if its not its as simple as sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:31] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: yes, esound-$foo/debian/rules
[08:31] <Warbo> penguinwhoflew: I haven't enabled Coposite extaension. I don't think Compiz needs it
[08:31] <GTroy> nv is the opensource nvidia driver correct?
[08:32] <Warbo> GTroy: Yes
[08:32] <KanRiNiN_> Can anyone tell me where firefox is located?  I'm trying to replace it with swiftfox
[08:32] <GTroy> thanks warbo
[08:32] <jshriver> How do you configure which sound card you want in Ubuntu? I can't find alsaconf
[08:32] <made> rufnut: it would be on the Kubuntu Dvd
[08:32] <alth> Hey Crimsun, I don't know what it was, but my sub is working now, even if my rear speakers aren't ^_^
[08:32] <crimsun_> jshriver: are both detected?
[08:32] <rufnut> there is one ?
[08:32] <Flannel> rufnut: you can look here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/release/ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.list
[08:32] <Warbo> KanRiNiN: /usr/lib/firefox-(version)
[08:32] <penguinwhoflew> Warbo: but if i start it, the error it gives is 'No composite extension"
[08:32] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone help with configuring Amarok? it's flying through songs and i have the w32 codecs...
[08:32] <jshriver> hrm well lspci yields both
[08:32] <crimsun_> alth: it should have been working /before/
[08:32] <rufnut> ahh Flannel thankyou
[08:32] <Warbo> penguinwhoflew: Are you using an XGL/AIGLX server or regular XOrg
[08:33] <alth> But it wasn't >.>
[08:33] <bennyboy> CaptainMorgan, is it playing the songs?
[08:33] <made> what about my original problem..
[08:33] <bennyboy> or is it just skipping them and finishing the playlist
[08:33] <crimsun_> jshriver: but what does ``asoundconf list'' tell you?
[08:33] <CaptainMorgan> bennyboy: no, skipping them
[08:33] <jshriver> my onboard sound is borked... even tried disabling it in the BIOS but the kernel still detects it, and uses it as the default
[08:33] <alth> I can feel it when it kicks if it's working. Air displacement :P
[08:33] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: um, "esound-$foo" ?
[08:33] <CaptainMorgan> and finsihing
[08:33] <CaptainMorgan> yes
[08:33] <bennyboy> do sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[08:33] <made> I have a problem with flash.. all flash plays fine.. no errors.. but they appear to be a bit laggy at times. I have a 8mbit connection..
[08:33] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: do you have mp3 support for KDE installed?
[08:33] <jshriver> asoundconf list yields 4
[08:33] <Fr0Gs> hey
[08:33] <Fr0Gs> all
[08:33] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel: dunno... damn thing was playing last week
[08:33] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: yes. When you apt-get source, it will pull down the source. esound-foo is the name of the directory (obviously replacing foo; list the directory)
[08:33] <Warbo> made: Change the quality (right click, medium or low quality)
[08:34] <bennyboy> i had the same problem and that fixed it
[08:34] <KanRiNiN_> Warbo:  thanks
[08:34] <crimsun_> jshriver: pastebin the output, and tell me which one you want to use.
[08:34] <made> why should I have to do that with a 256mb video card
[08:34] <Warbo> made: Most Flash has a preloader, which means the whole file is downloaded and played locally, not streamed
[08:34] <jshriver> hrm.. SI7012, bt868 (vid capt), AudioPCI (guessing my PCI card), and UART
[08:34] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: neat, it works.. thanks :D
[08:34] <jshriver> guessing AudioPCI
[08:35] <jshriver> when I was using debian on this box it was the module es1971 or something along those lines
[08:35] <CaptainMorgan> bennyboy: did that sudo apt-get... and they installed... but still having the same problem
[08:35] <Warbo> made: I know the actionscript engine is not particularly efficient (it can lag when calculating parabolas for instance)
[08:35] <bennyboy> and youve restarted amarok?
[08:35] <made> Warbo: I have a 256mb video card, I don't have to downgrade the quality in winxp.. why should linux be any diff..
[08:35] <HellDragon> reboot
[08:35] <made> Warbo: I see
[08:35] <Fr0Gs> hey all does anyone know how to make a script for linux that can cd to /home/dean/Steam then cedega steam.exe -applaunch 20
[08:35] <Fr0Gs> ?
[08:35] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: you'll need to generate the deb afterward. Install devscripts and fakeroot, then debuild binary
[08:36] <CaptainMorgan> bennyboy:  nevermind - had to restart Amarok - thank you
[08:36] <CaptainMorgan> that did it
[08:36] <CaptainMorgan> ;)
[08:36] <bennyboy> no problem
[08:36] <crimsun_> jshriver: and which one do you want to use?
[08:36] <jshriver> AudioPCI
[08:36] <Warbo> made: If you read my comment on ActionScript then this is a problem with the player. I can easily play Wizard Power in full quality (that has LOADS going on), but it lags when playing Gravity Ball (a simple game) because the ActionScript engine is a bit dodgy, not the graphics
[08:36] <crimsun_> jshriver: asoundconf set-default-card AudioPCI
[08:36] <crimsun_> jshriver: then restart any sound apps
[08:36] <ChakRa> guys does any one know whats the apt-get ??? to get LDAP funtionality in dapper?
[08:37] <jshriver> thanks, will I have to do that everytime I boot or will it set the system up perm?
[08:37] <steveO_> if I do apt-get dist-upgrade when I already have dapper.. what's it upgrading?
[08:37] <ChakRa> i tried sudo apt-get insall LDAP
[08:37] <crimsun_> jshriver: you get the same functionality, btw, using GNOME's System> Preferences> Sound> default sound acrd
[08:37] <crimsun_> card^
[08:37] <Warbo> made: Also, Macromedia Flash, unlike Gnash (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash) does not use OpenGL to render, so your graphics card isn't being fully utilised
[08:37] <Kachingo> How do I enable the dapper-updates repository from the command line?
[08:37] <babo> where can I download and watch the argentina vs ivory coast match ??
[08:37] <jshriver> thanks :)
[08:37] <made> Warbo: which means there is no way around it?
[08:37] <jshriver> brb testing
[08:37] <bennyboy> ChakRa,  have you tried apt-cache search ldap
[08:37] <ChakRa> no sir lemme try that, thanks
[08:37] <Flannel> bennyboy: there's a lot.  ChakRa, try apt-cache search ldap | less
[08:37] <Warbo> made: I know Flash Player 6 works perfectly well in WINE, but I haven't tried anything newer (I don't see why they shouldn't though)
[08:38] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: ok, thanks alot
[08:38] <Flannel> ChakRa: then you can scroll through the list and look
[08:38] <Healot> install ppracer if you want to test out the power of your 3D card -)
[08:38] <Madeye> guys, I installed network manager applet on my laptop,  but It says 'no network device has been found' while my build-in wireless working just fine out of the box
[08:38] <Warbo> made: Macromedia give away a stand alone Flash Player with trials of Flash (the player is not time restricted)
[08:38] <made> Warbo: should I wine it up or just compile gnash?
[08:38] <Warbo> made: Gnash doesn't play sound (MP3 is patented)
[08:38] <cyphase> hmm
[08:39] <bennyboy> Flannel, what is the difference? is it alphebetized?
[08:39] <cyphase> beagle isn't indexing files..
[08:39] <ChakRa> thanks Flannel
[08:39] <Flannel> bennyboy: no, less allows you to scroll through the list.
[08:39] <Flannel> bennyboy: because theres like three pages of it
[08:39] <bennyboy> couldt you just use shift+page up?
[08:39] <Flannel> bennyboy: depends.  not when using screen, for instance.
[08:39] <bennyboy> good to know
[08:40] <Warbo> Doe anyone know if Xgl has less international support than Xorg? My super keys dissapeared when I had it on
[08:40] <Warbo> Deas
[08:40] <Warbo> AA
[08:40] <Warbo> Does
[08:40] <KanRiNiN_> Warbo:  could I hypothetically backup my configuration, copy it when I destroy this reiser partition onto a new ext3 partition?
[08:40] <Warbo> KanRiNiN_: For Firefox?
[08:40] <myworld122> do Wine take very long time to start up? It seem to stuck when i tried to open windows programs...any help?
[08:41] <KanRiNiN_> Warbo:  No, I can't use openafs, and I've spent a good 4 hours tweaking my new ubuntu install...so I need ext3 to use openafs
[08:41] <Warbo> myworld122: It can be slightly unreliable. Generally if the Windows program will work in Windows 98, and it is not too complex, then it should work. I know Flash MX trial works fine, but goes INCREDIBLY slow
[08:42] <hektisk> hello.  I recently installed mplayer and am getting the error: New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).  To rectify this I have made a system link to ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf, but that hasn't stopped the error messages
[08:42] <MarsRouter> hi
[08:42] <made> does anybody recommend a good ubuntu alarm clock that plays mp3s at the selected time?
[08:42] <CaptainMorgan> I got Firefox 1.5 using KDE, trying to install macromedia flash player.. says it installs and then I go to restart FF and I have to install again.. never getting it to install... bug?
[08:42] <MarsRouter> any one knows NTFS driver for Ubuntu
[08:42] <bennyboy> hektisk, have you tried just copying a font there?
[08:42] <hektisk> yes I have, same error message
[08:42] <myworld122> Warbo: have you ever tried it with MS word?
[08:43] <Warbo> KanRiNiN_: Well my system is a complete "cp -r /*" job, since I spent ages upgrading one machine to Dapper and couldn't be bothered to go through it again. Just make sure you change /etc/fstab accordingly :)
[08:43] <neutrinomass> made: I'm not sure, but I always do it with "sleep 6h && totem blah.mp3" in the command line ... ( I guess you want to wake up? )
[08:43] <Warbo> myworld122: Nope (why bother when you have OpenOffice :))
[08:43] <Flannel> MarsRouter: what you looking to do?
[08:43] <myworld122> Warbo: well...not really MS office...anything that complex might not work?
[08:44] <bennyboy> myworld122, i think that wine supports ms office almost perfectly
[08:44] <bennyboy> check out wines website
[08:44] <Healot> aye ay ay
[08:44] <Healot> WINE again...
[08:44] <Warbo> myworld122: I think m$ word specifically DOES work, but that is only because WINE developers worked hard on that to make sure they had something to show off
[08:44] <KanRiNiN_> Warbo:  you mean the reiserfs to ext3 right?  So I can use the Backup utility ubuntu comes with?
[08:44] <Healot> why people don't listen to Microsoft at all?
[08:45] <jshriver> hrm sound still doesnnt work..
[08:45] <Warbo> KanRiNiN_: I just copied the files across to a new hard drive and it worked. On UNIX systems everything is a file, so that means everything gets copied
[08:45] <made> I'm looking for a configurable linux/ubuntu alarm clock.. no cli
[08:45] <MarsRouter> Flannel : i could not install NTFS driver onUbuntu as i use iton FC4
[08:45] <myworld122> Warbo: so that means there's something wrong with my machine
[08:45] <Flannel> MarsRouter: right, what are you trying to do to NTFS though?
[08:45] <jshriver> the card I have is anEnsoniq ES1371.. and the kernel module is es1371, but when I try modprobe es1371 it says no modules
[08:46] <Healot> MarsRouter: the driver is available on extras repos
[08:46] <Warbo> myworld122: Not really. WINE is very hit and miss (www.winehq.org has their own WINE repository for the very latest version if that helps)
[08:46] <MarsRouter> Flannel : i found some apt method on ubuntu froums but that did not work
[08:46] <Flannel> !tell MarsRouter about ntfs
[08:46] <Healot> btw WINE sucks for emulating Windows Operating system
[08:46] <jshriver> IS it possible to download prebuilt modules for the current stable kernel in ubuntu?
[08:46] <Flannel> MarsRouter: read what ubotu linked you to, it shoudl work
[08:46] <Warbo> Healot: Mainly because WINE Is Not an Emulator :)
[08:46] <jshriver> modprobe es1371 yields errors, not found
[08:47] <bennyboy> Healot, Wine is Not an Emulator
[08:47] <Healot> I would say F WINE :)
[08:47] <Healot> haha nah
[08:47] <jshriver> hrm wait... snd_ens1371?
[08:47] <Healot> I don;t like the idea of running foreign binaries
[08:47] <MarsRouter> Flannel ; tyhankx
[08:48] <Warbo> Healot: It is useful, but I try to use only FLOSS and most FLOSS has Linux ports
[08:48] <gharz> please help me install the vmware server. i've followed the howto in the forum but i'm getting this error message: A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[08:48] <Healot> but the idea of Linux layer for BSD-based OSes is cool
[08:48] <Healot> but Windows binaries for GNU/Linux is just wrong
[08:49] <gharz> i've installed vmware-player from synaptic and completely remove it eventually before following the instructions from the forum.
[08:49] <Yoosah> love this channel :P
[08:49] <gharz> please need help.
[08:49] <Flannel> gharz: so, whats your problem?
[08:49] <Warbo> Healot: I think that programs should be able to run on any machine, even if it involves emulation. That is why I respect Apple whenever they switch architecture (at least they DO switch architecture, unlike one company I could name)
[08:50] <gharz> Flannel, after running 'sudo ./vmware-install.pl' a message says A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[08:50] <Healot> just wrong, \ vs / :)
[08:50] <gharz> Flannel, i've already removed vmware-player from synaptic.
[08:50] <Warbo> Healot: backslash is an abomination in a filesystem
[08:50] <Flannel> gharz: complete removal?
[08:50] <gharz> Flannel, yes.
[08:51] <gharz> Flannel, is it advisable to re-install vmware-player and remove it again completely?
[08:51] <Healot> Apple's virtualization is cool, because PowerPC support virtualization
[08:51] <Flannel> gharz: you shouldnt need to.  You already removed it completely
[08:51] <DanielFaulknor> can anyone tell me why webmin isnt in the dapper repos?
[08:51] <Warbo> gharz: Is vmware-player in Synaptic (or did you download a .deb?)
[08:51] <babo> I need a p2p streaming video client for ubuntu, (kinda like pplive for windows) ? ... what's out there that actually works ?
[08:51] <MarsRouter> Flannel : Ubuntu is complete OS as Fedora Core is??
[08:51] <gharz> Warbo, from synaptic
[08:51] <Healot> VMware or such suck, ebcause x86 don't do virtualization.........
[08:52] <Healot> MarsRouter: yes
[08:52] <Flannel> MarsRouter: it is
[08:52] <KanRiNiN> anyone ever half problems with javascript after a new install?
[08:52] <Warbo> gharz: I mean is it in Ubuntu by default (multiverse?) because I am interested
[08:52] <Flannel> DanielFaulknor: it's in universe
[08:52] <DanielFaulknor> flannel: thanks
[08:52] <gharz> Warbo, in ubuntu.
[08:52] <gharz> i'm not sure if universe or default.
[08:52] <Flannel> !vmware
[08:52] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[08:52] <gharz> Warbo, i just saw it from synaptic then download it.
[08:53] <Flannel> gharz, Warbo, you might try that link
[08:53] <Warbo> gharz: Cool. I'll have to look into it (I downloaded it before, but it made far too many configs and network devices than I was comfortable with. If it is in Ubuntu then I can relax since Synaptic won't destroy my system)
[08:53] <jshriver> ok one last question... how can I change the volume for line in?
[08:53] <babo> Is there any pplive equiavlent video streaming client for linux ?
[08:54] <piratepenguin> I wouldn't suppose there's a way to make ALSA use OSS? that would be sooooo useful :)
[08:54] <MarsRouter> Flannel :: is there any posssibility to run RPM on Ubuntu ?
[08:54] <bennyboy> jshriver, alsamixer
[08:54] <Warbo> babo: Have you looked at GnomePeerCast and PenguinTV? (I'm not sure what pplive is, so just suggestions)
[08:54] <gharz> Flannel, Warbo : this is the best vmware howto i found in the forum... others experienced the same problem but they didn't mentioned how they were able to fix it.
[08:54] <gharz> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[08:55] <crimsun_> jshriver: the asoundconf utility takes parameters from /proc/asound/; don't randomly insert strings for names you think may work. Use what ``asoundconf list'' tells you.
[08:55] <Flannel> MarsRouter: there is, but usually you can find deb files, and those would be better.
[08:55] <jshriver> hrm..
[08:55] <Flannel> gharz: check out that link to the wiki though
[08:55] <crimsun_> jshriver: and note that you have to adjust the volume after you set a new default card
[08:55] <jshriver> well I have my bttv card's plugged into my line-in, but no sound
[08:55] <gharz> Flannel, that wiki says he bought the software. i'm installing a free version. :(
[08:55] <crimsun_> jshriver: then unmute and increase line's volume
[08:55] <Warbo> MarsRouter: If you have an RPM of something trivial (like a game) then it is usually OK to convert it to Deb with Alien
[08:56] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: heh, alsa can emulate oss. It doesn't use oss.
[08:56] <Flannel> !tell MarsRouter about alien
[08:56] <jshriver> that's it :) was muted
[08:56] <jshriver> sweet! can watch TV now hehe
[08:56] <KanRiNiN> hmm..javascript still not working
[08:56] <Healot> in which browser?
[08:56] <KanRiNiN> Firefox and Swiftfox
[08:56] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: ah so what I want isn't possible then..
[08:56] <gharz> Flannel, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209 this is the good link. but maybe bec my eyes are tired of searching for an answer, i don't see any msgs that states the solution.
[08:57] <jshriver> well I'm heading to bed .. thank everyone :)
[08:57] <jshriver> have a good night
[08:57] <Warbo> Anyone know how to install Flash in Konqueror? (I think it can be done, but don't see any packages and general mozilla one doesn't do Konqueror)
[08:58] <Flannel> Warbo: you might try asking in #kubuntu
[08:58] <Warbo> Flannel: but I use GNOME :)
[08:58] <Flannel> Warbo: but, Konqueror is a KDE program
[08:58] <Healot> Warbo: update the plugin list using KDE control panel
[08:58] <KanRiNiN> Warbo:  I was on Suse for awhile, and according to the forums it's still being integrated by devs
[08:58] <Warbo> Flannel: Not really needed, I was just wondering (since I screwed up FireFox a week ago [and hence Galeon and Epiphany]  so I was stuck in Konqueror)
[08:59] <KanRiNiN> Yea, I'll have to do something about javascript here..
[08:59] <Flannel> Warbo: rght, but I'm sure they know howto do it
[09:00] <Warbo> By the way, does musepack go pretty slow for everyone (mainly in Amarok)?
[09:01] <Healot> define slow?
[09:02] <Warbo> Healot: Amarok takes a while to respond when changing tracks to a musepack file (around 2 seconds to display OSD etc.)
[09:02] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: considering alsa was designed to replace oss...
[09:02] <Healot> oh, gap
[09:02] <Healot> maybe you set the playing list to include 2 second gap?
[09:02] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: yea I see.. if only the nvidia drivers were build for alsa damnit!
[09:02] <Warbo> Healot: Nope. Everything else is Mp3 and OGG with no problems
[09:03] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: well, snd_intel8x0 will work but won't allow pcm multiplexing
[09:03] <Healot> Warbo: maybe it's the plugin itself
[09:03] <Warbo> Healot: I think it may either be from a) not very well supported format or b) musepack is such a complex/compressed format it is inevitable
[09:03] <Healot> musepack is for lossless compression right?
[09:03] <Warbo> I was just after anyone else's experience
[09:03] <crimsun_> no, mpc is lossy.
[09:04] <Warbo> Healot: Lossy
[09:04] <Healot> maybe bad algorithm?
[09:04] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: is that because only nvidia has the info to program the hardware or..?
[09:04] <Warbo> Healot: I think it is "open", but based on MP3 so it can't be technically
[09:04] <Healot> if lossless, it cold involve disk speed etc... because the file could be huge
[09:05] <Warbo> Healot: If it was lossless then I would simply convert to FLAC, but it is a bad idea to transcode lossy to lossy
[09:06] <Healot> Warbo: I would guess it's the algorithm
[09:07] <Warbo> Healot: Well I can speculate, but I was just curious about peaople's real-world experience with it. I may test it in XMMS, since that is more lightweight
[09:07] <crimsun_> piratepenguin: essentially.
[09:07] <Stiffler> hello
[09:07] <ChakRa> hey
[09:07] <Stiffler> which package has got alsaconf?
[09:07] <Warbo> piratepenguin: nv driver essentially just uses graphics card as a monitor port. All of the work is done in your CPU
[09:07] <Healot> take your time, btw it doesn't affect play quality, Warbo?
[09:08] <ChakRa> Stiffler, no clue sowwie
[09:08] <piratepenguin> Warbo: we're talking about sound drivers ;)
[09:08] <Warbo> Healot: It doesn't affect quality thankfully
[09:08] <Kachingo> I just upgraded to 6.06, and now the GUI won't start. X server says something like the virtual screen dimensions are too big. Does anyone have any idea why this is happening, or how to fix it?
[09:08] <Warbo> piratepenguin: Oh, soryy (Nvidia!=Sound to me :))
[09:09] <piratepenguin> crimsun_: I see.. well, thanks for all your help :D
[09:10] <miguelsr> !firefox
[09:11] <Warbo> Kachingo: From a console you can change your X settings with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" maybe fiddling with those settings can help?
[09:11] <piratepenguin> did anyone else just get a million PMs?
[09:11] <Warbo> nope
[09:11] <Kachingo> Perhaps, I'll go try. Cheers
[09:12] <Mitja> I have grub and a distro image on hard drive. How do I install new distro out of that image?
[09:12] <Alfred_> Hey guys! Was just wondering. What will happen to GRUB, when I install Windows XP after having installed Ubuntun 6.06? Will Windows XP be the prefered Os, and be set as default?
[09:13] <Flannel> Alfred_: no, WindowsXP will eat grub.
[09:13] <Toma-> Alfred_: XP will kill grub
[09:13] <xice_> yeah
[09:13] <Healot> !dualboot
[09:13] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[09:14] <Alfred_> Flannel, Toma- : I really would not want that. What can I do to prevent that? I really need XP, but I want Ubuntu to my primary OS
[09:14] <Flannel> Windows goes around thinking it's the only operating system, and does stupid things without checking
[09:14] <Flannel> Alfred_: you can still have ubuntu be your primary OS if you install it second
[09:14] <disinterested_pe> i agree flannel
[09:14] <myworld122> How can I read and write on Windows NTFS?
[09:14] <gneisenau> or reinstall grub
[09:14] <Warbo> Healot: Hmmm... XMMS seems to have no gap when changing tracks. In fact, it seems to change tracks 4 seconds before the song is over :(
[09:14] <Flannel> myworld122: you can read, not write.
[09:14] <Flannel> !tell myworld122 about ntfs
[09:15] <richiefrich> myworld122 experimental
[09:15] <richiefrich> myworld122 it might work
[09:15] <xice_> myworld122, captivate, but its real slow and might screw up
[09:15] <Alfred_> Flannel, *sigh* I just got it all set up and configured, and now I have to start over again? (Having some major issues getting my Canon i850 to work, which I really don't want to go through again)
[09:15] <LeaChim> Alfred_, have you left any space on a drive?
[09:15] <myworld122> Thanks guys
[09:15] <LeaChim> i.e. a partition for windows xp to sit on
[09:15] <Warbo> Alfred_: You can reinstall GRUB from a LiveCD after Windoze is installed
[09:16] <MarsRouter> Flannel : in FC in write on NTFS too just mounting by complex command
[09:16] <bennyboy> Alfred_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[09:16] <Flannel> MarsRouter: right, they use captive I imagine, it's not stable though, can hose an entire partition
[09:16] <Alfred_> LeaChim, Flannel Warbo: Hey Warbo, good morning! Sorry, I forgot to mention that, must be the lack of sleep. ;) Yea, I got 20 GB of unallocated disc space left on HDA1
[09:17] <Warbo> Alfred_: You have Ubuntu installed, now install XP (I assume you left space) then run a livecd and do "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" where /dev/hda is your harddrive
[09:17] <Madpilot> bennyboy, ubuntuguide is not up to date - please don't recommend it. Use wiki.ubuntu.com or help.ubuntu.com's resources instead...
[09:17] <KanRiNiN> OK, I looked at the javascript console, and I have tons of errors, even after a reinstall
[09:17] <LeaChim> Alfred_, ok, what you can do is install it on that
[09:17] <KanRiNiN> any ideas?
[09:17] <bennyboy> ubuntuguide is up to date
[09:17] <Warbo> someone mentioned ubuntuguide being updated (I still prefer Wiki though)
[09:17] <LeaChim> Alfred_, and then yes, livecd, and run grub-install /dev/hda1 - then you can boot into linux, and add the windows entry to the grub conf file
[09:17] <Flannel> bennyboy: ubuntuguide is not sanctioned, use the wiki instead.
[09:17] <Madpilot> bennyboy, that's new then...
[09:18] <bennyboy> yes only a few days old
[09:18] <Hypoglybetic> ah... 3 am and the chat room is buzzing
[09:18] <Warbo> Alfred_: Use /dev/hda (or your drive) not hda1, otherwise it will not get installed to MBR
[09:18] <Hypoglybetic> nerds never get any sleep..even after working a 60 hr work week ..."working" in the office. . .
[09:18] <Madpilot> I wish people would help with the real Ubuntu docs instead of starting their own projects all the time...
[09:19] <Warbo> Hypoglybetic: Yes, 8am and it is buzzing
[09:19] <MarsRouter> Flannel:yes specially the difference Windows cant imaginge difference between Capa & sammal is the real issue
[09:19] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, this is a very international channel - it's only 3am where you are :)
[09:19] <MarsRouter> Flannel : for new bies it sholud Read only
[09:19] <Hypoglybetic> ah, you hail from UK?
[09:19] <Warbo> Hypoglybetic: Yes (and it's far too hot)
[09:19] <Hypoglybetic> ..
[09:19] <Alfred_> LeaChim, Flannel Warbo, bennyboy : Thanks, so this is what I'll do: I'll install Windows XP on the unpartioned space I have left, once that's done, I'll install GRUB by using the Ubuntu 6.06 Install CD. And I'll make sure to use /dev/hda not hda1
[09:19] <LeaChim> Warbo, Alfred_, yes :P i meant /dev/hda :P *whistles*
[09:19] <Flannel> MarsRouter: no, no.  Writing to NTFS is NOT stable, at all, for anyone.
[09:19] <Hypoglybetic> try florida
[09:19] <Warbo> Alfred_: Yep
[09:19] <xice_> question: I have a directory /home/ben/scripts, of which i would like to just type the name of the script into a terminal to run it,,, what symbolic link do i need to create?
[09:19] <Hypoglybetic> hot one day, then friggen gods wraith the next .. hurricanes..
[09:19] <Flannel> Madpilot: I agree completely about the help texts
[09:20] <Healot> NTFS was meant for Windows NT operating systems, should stay that way
[09:20] <LeaChim> Alfred_, yes. then you boot into linux, and you can add the bit in the grub conf to allow it to boot xp
[09:20] <Madpilot> xice, use /home/ben/bin, and tweak your $PATH to include ~/bin
[09:20] <Healot> I wonder why Microsoft haven't sue people who created "captive"
[09:20] <xice_> its legal
[09:20] <Hypoglybetic> I have a general question.  Where is the Gigantic Red flashing Arrow saying "linux newbs download this distrobu here!"
[09:20] <Flannel> Healot: fair use, I imagine
[09:20] <Warbo> Hypoglybetic: The British generally don't have BAD weather, we just complain ("It's always bloody raining" and when it isn't "It's too bloody hot, why doesn't it rain?") :)
[09:21] <Hypoglybetic> Warbo: i'm so glad you type my name, this xchat highlights it all in red... though, if i wore my contacts, it wouldnt' be so hard to read.
[09:21] <Healot> If I am William, I'll sue anyone writing program to access NTFS (whose have no affliate with MS) :)
[09:21] <Alfred_> LeaChim, Warbo: Edit the GRUB conf file? How do I do that? Is it just plain comment/uncomment configuring, or do I have to type in something?
[09:21] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, are you asking for a link to the download page, or asking why Ubuntu is popular w/ newcomers to Linux, or ??? (sorry, it's late here...)
[09:21] <Warbo> Hypoglybetic: GAIM forever :)
[09:22] <LeaChim> Alfred_, you will have to type something. we can walk you through it once xp is installed
[09:22] <Warbo> Alfred_: There are examples on adding a windows partition contained within the file (it is /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[09:23] <Flannel> Healot: except it'd be covered clearly under fair use.  And if you'd like, we can continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, as it doesn't belong here.
[09:23] <Warbo> Alfred_: As LeaChim says, 1 step at a time
[09:23] <Hypoglybetic> Madpilot: I'm just refering to that I'm completly lost.  I plan on installing ubuntu onto my laptop.  For someone who loves to use EXE files, how hard is it going to be to do "office" work on this thing?
[09:23] <Alfred_> WAit I think I jus got it from Bennyboy : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[09:23] <Hypoglybetic> Wabo: i dislike gaim.
[09:23] <Alfred_> Warbo, LeaChim : Wait I think I jus got it from Bennyboy : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[09:23] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, probably not very. OpenOffice.org is installed by default, for starters
[09:23] <Warbo> Alfred_: That's the one
[09:24] <Hypoglybetic> Madpilot: ah good. that is a decent app.  Do you have a link to Win equivilant programs for ubuntu?
[09:24] <MarsRouter> Flannel : i have already installed FC4, FreeBSD6.0 , WindowsXP on my box i want Ubuntu on it too without loosing others
[09:24] <LeaChim> Hypoglybetic, openoffice.org runs natively on linux
[09:24] <Yoosah> arrrr
[09:24] <Flannel> MarsRouter: who said you'd lose them?
[09:24] <Alfred_> Warbo, LeaChim thanks a lot! See you again soon, then! :) By the way, are you registered on www.ubuntuforums.org?
[09:25] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, there are several partial lists around, I don't have URLs handy. Which apps/functions were you wondering about?
[09:25] <Warbo> Hypoglybetic: Novell have done an apparently quite good guide on alternatives, but I don't know the link
[09:25] <LeaChim> Alfred_, i hate forums :P irc forever!
[09:25] <Hypoglybetic> I guess this calls for luck, google, and some key words.
[09:25] <DaveyJ> is it possible to use multiple monitors with xgl?
[09:25] <Warbo> Yoosah: National Talk Like A Pirate Day isn't for ages is it?
[09:25] <MarsRouter> Flannel : ubuntu in isnatllationonly tel about windowsXP!
[09:25] <Flannel> MarsRouter: what?
[09:26] <MarsRouter> Flannel: i hve to enter other mannulay in bootloader??
[09:26] <Flannel> MarsRouter: no, ubuntu will recognize everything fine.
[09:26] <Warbo> Ubuntu recognises Windows fine, but sadly not other Linuxs
[09:26] <Alfred_> LeaChim, hehe, well, you do get answers faster on IRC, that is for sure!
[09:26] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, the fastest way is probably just to ask here - "I do <something> in Windows, how do I do it in Ubuntu?"
[09:27] <Flannel> MarsRouter: alright, I stand corrected.  You'll have to add them to your grub, or just don't write to your grub, and add ubuntu to your grub.
[09:27] <Alfred_> thanks again! bye!
[09:27] <siccness> Hypoglybetic, just out of curiosity, what programs do you use in the Office suite?
[09:27] <MarsRouter> Flannel :   oks
[09:27] <Hypoglybetic> I want to play movies/videos on the laptop, yet send a feed through the VGA or S-Video port to a moniter/TV.  Where do i configure that?
[09:28] <Warbo> The only office application I use is a word processor, so I prefer AbiWord (I don't need integration with spreadsheets, etc)
[09:28] <MarsRouter> Flanale : im friendly  to edit GRUB no prob i can do it
[09:28] <siccness> See, I only ever used Microsoft Word, now I just use LyX
[09:28] <Hypoglybetic> I just said office in general because on my 1800+, i won't be gaming. . .so after gaming comes office work.  Usually MS Office 2k3
[09:28] <Warbo> siccness: Well AbiWord is better than WordsWorth which I grew up with anyway :)
[09:28] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, playing regular video files/movies is easy to set up. TV out is possibly, I've never set it up, though
[09:28] <juantao> Hello, I wanted to change my name (add an underscore) on the ubuntu wiki and made a bad boo-boo. checked "Disable this account forever" now, how might I go about reversing that? is there someone I can write to?
[09:29] <Warbo> juantao: That is your LaunchPad account isn't it? Can you do it from there?
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know if I can open an existing database, written using MySql and php-myadmin in Open Office Database?
[09:30] <juantao> Warbo: I didn't see anywhere at launchpad where I could delete an account - only merge them.
[09:31] <Warbo> juantao: OK
[09:31] <Madpilot> juantao, is there an admin email on launchpad somewhere?
[09:32] <Hypoglybetic> What is the differnce between Debian, Fedora, n all those other "cores" n kernels?
[09:32] <Hypoglybetic> BASIC words plz :-p
[09:32] <juantao> Madpilot: I'll spend some more time at launchpad and get back to you all if needed. Thanks a lot.
[09:33] <Grant> Hello, I have an easy question for all, i use MS at work at the moment but am going to change over to Kubuntu and need a mail client which supports the exchange protocol.
[09:33] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, they're all different versions of Linux, pretty much. Ubuntu is related to Debian.
[09:33] <Morrowyn> hi, i have a blackipod, but when i connect it , i get a white ipod icon, any idea how i can change this to a black icon, like  i have on osx?
[09:33] <Morrowyn> Grant, try evolution
[09:34] <Grant> Morrowyn - Evolution is for Gnome, i need to use KDE..
[09:34] <Hypoglybetic> So, when will Linux have the ability to run apps from Windows on it? Like Mac is doing?
[09:34] <alex_> do you think that compiling amarok from source would be a good idea for the purpose of listning to mp3's?
[09:34] <Grant> Morrowyn, will Evolution load up on KDE?
[09:34] <Morrowyn> grant, you can run evolution in kde
[09:34] <alex_> as it's not automatically enabled
[09:34] <Morrowyn> just use synaptic, if evolution isnt already there
[09:34] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, that's not even really on the agenda - it's not for Mac, either.
[09:34] <B1zz> where can i find the .deb files apt uses?
[09:35] <Grant> Morrowyn - is there any special way to make evo* work on KDE and synaptic interesting.. ill check that one out now..
[09:35] <Madpilot> B1zz, packages.ubuntu.com, among other places, if you're looking for them online
[09:35] <eyequeue> B1zz, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:35] <B1zz> thanks madpilot i mean locally :)
[09:35] <Hypoglybetic> Madpilot: I could have sworn Mac/Apple had or is doing that?  Or is that an independant group?
[09:35] <Morrowyn> grant, sudo apt-get install evolutution  on a term
[09:35] <B1zz> ahh ok thanks eyequeue
[09:35] <eyequeue> B1zz, no prob
[09:35] <Morrowyn> evolution^
[09:35] <juantao> Oh, one more thing, anyone know what happened  to make ntp break in 6.06?
[09:36] <Morrowyn> that will fetch you the gtklibs also, if you dont have them already
[09:36] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, Mac has switched to Intel x86 hardware, which is what Windows has been using all along. Not the same thing as running apps from one OS on the other
[09:36] <Morrowyn> you can also run kde stuff on gnome and viceverse, you just need the proper libs for it
[09:36] <Hypoglybetic> Madpilot: one moment, let me find the article.  I'm not new to comps, just never bothered w/ Linux.
[09:37] <Morrowyn> Hypoglybetic, have a look on www.winehq.com
[09:37] <Hypoglybetic> Marrowyn: last iremember, it has nothing to do with Wine or any other thing like that. Its simply Run Win stuf on a mac.
[09:37] <sibyllasT33> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <frannierT75> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <l> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <boonemC45> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <lorrieoX52> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <andrearO30> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <ethelredgX69> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <laneydY95> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <torienS19> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <madelinvY29> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <haraldwG59> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <hortenrH15> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <vivianaqC69> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <devlanddK76> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <lennierF20> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <liliasW64> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <cassiejF67> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <joannaeX62> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <babaranH66> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <nilsongO71> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <angelikanX33> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <mabelwG22> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <theadoraqE97> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <kipzS30> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <kathyjV60> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <hanswA11> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <lonlO16> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <rhettvY13> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <antoniettabC26> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <therineeX56> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <gustavopG40> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <rhebadG72> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <flemmingoQ34> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <fedoramG85> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <marianaqG53> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <cathrinuW24> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <katyqJ19> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <ambrosipP41> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <Flannel> !ops
[09:37] <darabR84> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <doritatQ82> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <anahY17> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <reuveneK73> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <leonanA61> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <lottyaX46> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <ettaxT60> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <melvynuV73> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <antonyvL24> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <ailinalI61> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <doniellefM22> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <helgazV68> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <farreliW99> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <kippyvE22> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <B1zz> whoa
[09:37] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[09:37] <coletD64> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e 
[09:37] <frannydU36> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <Grant> Morrowyn - Sweet, thanks mate, just one more question.. a while ago me and the guys at work tested Konquerer with our Intranet and it had these drop down menus not sure if they were flash or what but they wouldnt drop down.. Should basically all functionality work in Konquerer?
[09:37] <bronnyjB89> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:37] <Healot> holy
[09:37] <siccness> Good god.
[09:37] <Flannel> here comes spam!
[09:38] <B1zz> spam!
[09:38] <crimsun_> lilo: some help regarding the bots would be gravy.
[09:38] <Hypoglybetic> wtf
[09:38] <BlueT_> ....
[09:38] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, bot attack
[09:38] <benplaut> that was a good one
[09:38] <squiddle> wtf?
[09:38] <joykZ17> DCC send "e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e
[09:38] <Hypoglybetic> thats new to irc
[09:38] <Hypoglybetic> or, to me.
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[09:38] -cathrinuW24:#ubuntu- SeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeXSeX
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[09:38] <benplaut> >_>
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[09:38] <B1zz> wow!
[09:38] <lilo> nonsense
[09:38] <benplaut> um... !ops? :P
[09:38] <Morrowyn> ops , wakey wakey, ithis is your wakeup call
[09:38] <Yoosah> there we go
[09:38] <Flannel> thanks lilo ;)
[09:38] <lilo> np
[09:38] <siccness> :)
[09:38] <Healot> doesn;t hurt much
[09:39] <B1zz> they have zombie machines!
[09:39] <BlueT_> lilo: :)
[09:39] <squiddle> what is +R ?
[09:39] <Flannel> Morrowyn: they got woken up, Madpilot (and lilo) are here, all is good.
[09:39] <Healot> bunch of loobies
[09:39] <Kiko0123> anyone know the name of that song that plays in club, it's like cing around or something
[09:39] <B1zz> look at all those people that came in!
[09:39] <Madpilot> benplaut, someone did call !ops
[09:39] <DanielFaulknor> wow!
[09:39] <crimsun_> lilo: danke.
[09:39] <Yoosah> grind them down :)
[09:39] <Amaranth> whee
[09:39] <benplaut> aye
[09:39] <DanielFaulknor> what hapened
[09:39] <Kiko0123> anyone know the name of that song that plays in club, it's like cing around or something
[09:39] <benplaut> wait,,, were those all the unreged users?
[09:39] <crimsun_> they normally are.
[09:40] <Morrowyn> grant, dunno what you mean in konqueror, been a while for me, the konqueror
[09:40] <Madpilot> benplaut, given how similar all those nicks were, I'd say they was bots
[09:40] <matti> lilo: Thanks a lot :)
[09:40] <Amaranth> benplaut: no, just the bots
[09:40] <Morrowyn> and kubuntu should have synaptic, not?
[09:40] <Kiko0123> .
[09:40] <matti> lilo: Glad to have ya here ;p
[09:40] <benplaut> wow
[09:40] <lilo> np matti
[09:40] <benplaut> that's alot
[09:40] <Morrowyn> only bots and idiots do this shit
[09:40] <lilo> busy klining them
[09:40] <Flannel> Morrowyn: kubuntu uses adept, if I remember correctly.
[09:40] <Amaranth> Morrowyn: no, kubuntu has adept
[09:40] <Morrowyn> aha :)
[09:41] <Yoosah> tal lilo
[09:41] <B1zz> man that was alot of spam
[09:41] <Morrowyn> i like the gnome better than kde, but only that gnome feels a lot cleaner and more minimal
[09:41] <Yoosah> grin
[09:41] <Morrowyn> but thats just personal taste, although kde has shit loads more stuff init
[09:42] <Yoosah> Morrowyn: tried fluxbox?
[09:42] <Morrowyn> yup, i use it on my laptop
[09:42] <Morrowyn> with slackware
[09:42] <Yoosah> ah lightweight
[09:42] <Hypoglybetic> grr
[09:42] <Hypoglybetic> how do i change my "password"
[09:42] <benplaut> Yoosah: tried openbox?
[09:42] <eyequeue> Hypoglybetic, /usr/bin/passwd
[09:42] <Yoosah> benplaut: no, just flux
[09:42] <benplaut> cheater :P
[09:43] <polok> =\ at people trying to send me crap
[09:43] <Yoosah> heh :)
[09:43] <Flannel> hey, lilo, I'm getting DCC file stuff from people.
[09:43] <squiddle> is there a way to ignore all this dcc crap?
[09:43] <polok> Flannel: same here
[09:43] <BlueT_> hmmm
[09:43] <Amaranth> Flannel: i believe connecting to chat.freenode.net blocks DCC
[09:43] <Morrowyn> im still wonndering why anyone didnt grab the nextstep wm and transformed into the aqua osx wm, like apple did
[09:43] <B1zz> im not loved no DCC for me :(
[09:43] <polok> Flannel: I just blocked low ports and it's all stuffing up for them
[09:43] <B1zz> :-p
[09:43] <Morrowyn> :)
[09:44] <polok> it is kinda mean though
[09:44] <Hypoglybetic> GR
[09:44] <squiddle> /ignore * DCC in irssi does the trick, apparently
[09:44] <Morrowyn> btw, does azureus work with the gcj java?
[09:44] <squiddle> Morrowyn  no not really
[09:44] <Flannel> squiddle: they still send though, I just don't get notified.
[09:45] <Morrowyn> coz the sun java, slows down my eclipse, and i dont wanna switch to sun for this
[09:45] <eyequeue> Morrowyn, i've heard rumour that it only likes sun's
[09:45] <Morrowyn> aaargh
[09:45] <polok> squiddle: hrm, I might look at docs to see if that can be applied to certain networks
[09:45] <squiddle> Flannel  thats fine for me :) if i do not see it, it is not there
[09:45] <squiddle> polok  it can
[09:45] <Morrowyn> the default torrent is annoying, feeding me popup when a timeout occurs
[09:45] <polok> squiddle: wonderful
[09:45] <Hypoglybetic> well, if i can't change my PW in IRC what hope do i have to run linux
[09:45] <Morrowyn> so i wanna change tottrent client
[09:45] <Yoosah> nn
[09:45] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, /msg nickserv help
[09:46] <squiddle> polok  /ignore -network network * DCCC
[09:46] <Morrowyn> Hypoglybetic, try  : passwd in term and reading the : server messages on startup
[09:46] <squiddle> Morrowyn  try the consoleversion of bittorrent or the ncurses version
[09:46] <eyequeue> Hypoglybetic, wait, yo0u're not looking to change your console password?  passwd isn't for you then, /msg nickserv help
[09:46] <Morrowyn> ok
[09:46] <Morrowyn> i gonna have a look at it
[09:46] <Amaranth> /msg nickserv set password <newpass>
[09:46] <Hypoglybetic> I've read/tried help .. i'm idenfieid ...
[09:47] <Madpilot> Morrowyn, he's asking about passwords on freenode/IRC
[09:47] <Morrowyn> sorry, my bad, its early here
[09:47] <Hypoglybetic> YAYE
[09:47] <Hypoglybetic> ty Amaranth
[09:47] <eyequeue> Hypoglybetic,  /msg nickserv help set password
[09:47] <KanRiNiN> hey, I need to mount an ftp folder so I can use it to backup my distro, but it won't mount in nautilus...what's the easiest way?
[09:47] <Hypoglybetic> look at that, out of 10 people, 1 person has the 1 step answer.  See! Linux!... :-p
[09:47] <nct> HI. Does anyone knows if there is a 2.6.16 kernel packaged for dapper ? I would like to test it to help to fix bug  34831
[09:48] <crimsun_> nct: no, there's not.
[09:48] <crimsun_> nct: you can pull the git for 2.6.17 if you'd like, but you'll find the same issue reproducible (I'm tracking it).
[09:48] <DanielFaulknor> exit
[09:48] <DanielFaulknor> oops
[09:48] <crimsun_> nct: it is both a hardware errata and a kernel locking issue; I've not narrowed down the latter yet.
[09:49] <DaveyJ> is it possible to use multiple monitors with xgl?
[09:49] <chavo> DaveyJ, yes
[09:49] <nct> ok. So I'll try to reproduce with X41, if it can helps you
[09:49] <DaveyJ> because i have a geforce 5500
[09:49] <DaveyJ> with two monitors hooked up
[09:49] <DaveyJ> but i have no idea how to enable the second one
[09:49] <crimsun_> nct: please do. One person reports it reproducible on an X41. My X41 refuses to freeze.
[09:50] <nct> teh strange thing is that with a bare rosegarden, it works for the first time, but the second time or when I reload some work, freeze happens
[09:50] <crimsun_> nct: aha, that confirms my suspicion about the locking. I'll note that.
[09:50] <nct> crimsum_ have you been trying to run timidity -iA in the same time ?
[09:50] <crimsun_> nct: I've tried both with and without. My patches for it are in the kernel.
[09:51] <nct> ok, so I'll try again and report my findings in the bug report. If I got some saved file that make it crashes, I'll add them too
[09:51] <crimsun_> nct: excellent, thanks.
[09:52] <Hypoglybetic> MadPilot, found it! . . althought, it seems to just be an opinion and not any facts. . .still searching. .
[09:52] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, which, a list of Windows->Ubuntu equiv. apps?
[09:52] <Hypoglybetic> MadPilot Running Windows Programs on Mac, w/o Wine, nor WIn installed
[09:55] <nct> crimsun_ : trying the X41 right now. I don't know if it can help you, but on one of the computer with emu10k1 I've tested rosegarden with ubuntu breezy (with no freeze), sometimes some notes were never released and new note didn't got pressed. So it looks like there was already some problem in the MIDI layer
[09:56] <ayabara> are there any good application for connecting to/working with a nokia mobile in ubuntu?
[09:56] <crimsun_> nct: yes, it's a locking issue, I've gotten that much with kprof
[09:56] <nct> crimsun_ : I've some X41 report. timidity not running. Starting rosegarden, ok ; loading file, ok ; pressing start : freeze
[09:57] <Hypoglybetic> MadPilot is Wine or WineX a virtualization?
[09:57] <nct> rebooting right now
[09:57] <nct> would you like me to try something special ?
[09:57] <crimsun_> nct: and if snd-seq is loaded before you invoke timidity -iA?
[09:57] <Flannel> Hypoglybetic: no.  Wine re-routes API calls to corresponding ones.  essentially.
[09:57] <nct> do you want me to attach the rosegarden file to the bugreport ?
[09:57] <crimsun_> nct: that would be most helpful
[09:57] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, to be honest, I've no idea. I've never messed with any of the emulator/virtualization stuff
[09:57] <joachim-n> how do I get rid of the screen greying when I'm asked for the root password?
[09:57] <nct> crimsun_ : this time, timidity was niot running
[09:57] <suicida> can anybody help me with my dual-head and fglrx xorg.conf , i've got the problem that dri won't work, the config can be found here -> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/84aNd075.html and the error message from fglrxinfo and glxinfo is -> "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"."
[09:58] <nct> do you want me to try with it running ?
[09:58] <crimsun_> nct: ok, that's pretty standard. What if snd-seq is loaded and timidity -iA is invoked prior to starting rosegarden?
[09:58] <Hypoglybetic> So what exactly is a "virtualization?" These blogs? or opinions or what ever these sites are suggest using "virtualization" to allow Mac to run Windows programs. . .
[09:58] <Hypoglybetic> I read it and think is it that simple, or is my small vocabulary over looking something? :-p
[09:59] <Flannel> Hypoglybetic: you mind taking this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:59] <Healot> Hypoglybetic: in another word "emulation"
[10:00] <Hypoglybetic> Flannel: yeh, i do mind . . watch, you'll send me to an "off topic" room and no one will be in there but us newbies with lots of questions. . .just spamming questions. . .
[10:00] <Hypoglybetic> Anyways, its 4 am. . I'm going to go to bed. . .maybe when I wake up my ubun2 DVD's will be done downloading.
[10:01] <Flannel> Hypoglybetic: no, seriously.  #ubuntu is a support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is for non support chatter.
[10:01] <Flannel> I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic, as are a lot of people here.
[10:02] <Madpilot> Hypoglybetic, most of us who help here also hang out in -offtopic - it's hardly a ghetto of some sort :)
[10:02] <Hypoglybetic> OR, i could go to bed. . .:-p
[10:02] <nct> crimsun_ : ok, well, now it is working on the X41
[10:02] <Hypoglybetic> I'll keep that in mind for when i load IRC back up.  G'night and thanks for the info.
[10:02] <gharz> guys, why is it that i'm getting this error 'A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.' during VMware installation? i've already completely removed the vmware-player from synaptic.
[10:02] <gharz> please help.
[10:03] <gharz> i can't sleep... it's giving me nightmares.
[10:03] <Hypoglybetic> haha
[10:03] <Hypoglybetic> good luck gharz. its 4AM here.  mucho bedo! ..
[10:03] <nct> although I got no sound but that is probably another problem
[10:03] <crimsun_> nct: I'm more concerned about the crash than the inaudible sound at this point
[10:05] <gharz> Flannel, i still can't install vmware... i've reinstalled vmware-player from synaptic and completely remove it...
[10:05] <gharz> Flannel, it's still doesn't work.
[10:05] <nct> crimsun_ : yes, I think that was timidity's default output that somehow piointed to void. Forcing alsa make it works
[10:05] <Warbo> Hello?
[10:05] <Warbo> Wow, my nick is registered!
[10:06] <crimsun_> nct: timidity only triggers the issue; the real problem is in the error handling
[10:06] <Healot> heh
[10:06] <nct> crimsun_ : I remember that when the X41 crashed, I may at some point do something like killing timidity while rosegarden was running
[10:06] <Warbo> gharz: I am currently cleaning up an Ubuntu Wiki page on VMWare
[10:06] <gharz> Warbo, thanks! i'll be waiting for that.
[10:06] <crimsun_> nct: I don't have time atm to debug it, but it's high on my list of stuff for Edgy
[10:06] <Warbo> Does anyone know the licence terms of RHEL? (for my Wiki page)
[10:07] <Healot> Warbo: it is still GPL'd
[10:07] <nct> crimsun_ : right now, on X41, if I launch/close rosegarden4 on X41, start/stop playing, it does not crash
[10:07] <Warbo> gharz: I've been talking about virtualisation in here for a while, but noticed that my messages weren't being sent so off to Google for how to register my nick :)
[10:07] <Healot> but they charge you for professional support
[10:07] <crimsun_> nct: you already have snd-seq and timidity -iA running.
[10:07] <Warbo> Healot: So installing it in VMWare has no restrictions or seperate licence issues?
[10:07] <crimsun_> nct: at that point it /shouldn't/ crash
[10:08] <nct> crimsun_ : ok, that's coherent, it does not crash :-)
[10:08] <gharz> Warbo, :) ok.
[10:08] <alth> Um, guys, I've got universe and multiverse enabled, but can't seem to download libdvdcss.
[10:08] <gharz> i didn't expect/realize that installing vmware-player has an effect if i install vmware server.
[10:08] <miguelsr> !copiz
[10:08] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, miguelsr
[10:09] <gharz> it shouldn't be that way.
[10:09] <Flannel> alth: you update your cache?
[10:09] <alth> Flannel: How would I go about that? *noob*
[10:09] <Flannel> alth: using apt? or synaptic? or what?
[10:09] <alth> Apt.
[10:09] <Flannel> sudo apt-get update
[10:09] <alth> Oh, right. Yeah, done that fairly recently.
[10:10] <Flannel> alth: do a apt-cache search [] , where []  is something like libdvd, find out the exact package name
[10:10] <Morrowyn> alth, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  install the libdvdread one, which does lvldvdcss
[10:11] <nct> crimsun_ : do you think there will be some patrched backported for dapper ? Do you have any idea wether it is a matter of weeks or mounths ? Sorry to ask those questions but I've some dapper installed to do music and right now that's pretty compromised
[10:11] <nct> I've updated the bug report
[10:11] <nct> I think that issue should be noticed on ubuntu related music sites such as http://ubuntustudio.com/
[10:12] <alth> Thanks Morrowyn, Flannel.
[10:12] <crimsun_> nct: there is no fix for it yet
[10:12] <nct> anyway, thanks a lot for your help and work crimsum_ :-) I there is anything I can do
[10:12] <crimsun_> nct: if you're subbed to the bug report, you'll be notified
[10:14] <nct> Yes. Thanks.
[10:24] <kwtm> Does anyone else get EasyUbuntu failing to completely preconfigure a package (Macromedia Flash), causing the installer to wait indefinitely for user input?
[10:25] <phill_nz> Hi everyone.  I've just installed ubuntu for the first time off CD and I'm trying to figure out how I can set up a copy of the install CD on my local disk to act as the main repository (so I don't have to carry the CD around).
[10:25] <phill_nz> Can anyone tell me how to do this?
[10:26] <cyphase> you can start a movie, delete the file, and it'll keep playing because the data is still on the drive
[10:26] <cyphase> or whatever file, not just a video
[10:28] <Ohzie> Does anybody know about running gnome with the xfce window manager? Is that even possible? I know you can make gnome use fluxbox/blackbox/other things for the window manager part.
[10:28] <chavo> Ohzie, try runnung xfwm4 --replace
[10:28] <LoneShadow> Is there anyway I can downgrade my Xorg from 7.0 to 6.9 ?
[10:29] <nevyn> ls
[10:29] <chavo> LoneShadow, sure just install breezy
[10:29] <LoneShadow> hmm
[10:29] <LoneShadow> I have dapper right now
[10:30] <cyphase> LoneShadow a lot of stuff in dapper needs 7.0
[10:30] <LoneShadow> use debootstrap to install it, can I use debootstrap again on the same folder to overwrite ? or should I start from first
[10:30] <chavo> yeah there's no way you can really get 6.9, you could do it but it would break a lot of stuff
[10:30] <LoneShadow> ok
[10:30] <LoneShadow> but is there a command to downgrade from dapper to breezy ?
[10:30] <cyphase> so you'd have to downgrade a lot of other stuff, and it would cause a sort of ripple effect
[10:31] <LoneShadow> or do a fresh install of breezy ?
[10:31] <cyphase> you should probably do a fresh breezy install
[10:31] <chavo> LoneShadow, why do you need 6.9
[10:31] <cyphase> why do you want 6.9 though?
[10:31] <LoneShadow> we are trying out this hack on msntv :D
[10:31] <LoneShadow> changed firmware on this lil box, using it do a nfs boot onto ubuntu
[10:32] <LoneShadow> though the video driver from Intel for this is meant for older X
[10:33] <LoneShadow> other folks got it to work with FC3, Slackware,.. and all of them have older Xfree or xorg
[10:33] <Ohzie> chavo: Thanks. :D
[10:40] <Ohzie> Where is the config file for gnome where you specify the window manager?
[10:41] <chavo> Ohzie, did xfwm4 --replace not work
[10:41] <chavo> ?
[10:43] <Ohzie> Nope, said there's already a windowmanager in place.
[10:43] <Warbo> Just finished the formatting changes on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare which was linked to earlier
[10:44] <kwtm> What do I do if apt-get returns "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"?
[10:44] <Ohzie> But I know there's a place where you can specify the windowmanager that gnome uses.
[10:44] <Warbo> kwtm: Close any applications which are using apt-get (such as Synaptic)
[10:44] <chavo> Ohzie, alright you can do it from Preferences - Session then
[10:44] <jonathaN> i vaguely remember a time when GNOME had window manager selection prominently displayed in its gui preferences
[10:44] <jonathaN> of course, this was long before Ubuntu existed ;-)
[10:44] <kwtm> Warbo: I have none open.  I was using EasyUbuntu, which crashed in the middle.  Is there some lock file I should delete?  I can't find any.
[10:45] <chavo> jonathaN, that was back in the day
[10:45] <Warbo> Ohzie: I once used E16 as GNOME's WM, but found it a bitch to set up (there are options all over the place). I found it easiest to make /usr/bin/metacity a link to /usr/bin/enlightenment
[10:45] <chavo> when you could pick between sawfish and enlightenment :)
[10:45] <Warbo> kwtm: I don't know. Easy Ubuntu worked for me so I have no knowledge of this problem :(
[10:46] <Ohzie> Yeah, when you install enlightenment it lets you use it with gnome
[10:46] <Ohzie> But I don't want that! =P
[10:46] <CompuCh|p> Hi
[10:46] <Warbo> Hi
[10:46] <kwtm> Warbo: Did you install Macromedia Flash Player?  The configure script wanted a user reply, and EasyUbuntu didn't know to reply, so it kept waiting indefinitely for user input.
[10:46] <CompuCh|p> Forgot to identify :)
[10:47] <CompuCh|p> I had this question: I set up Postfix/Procmail so local users can send mail and it gets delivered correctly. But now I would like a program (fetchmail?) to fetch mail from my external catch-all POP-account and have it delivered to postfix to sort it out to the local users. Any idea how to do this?
[10:47] <Warbo> kwtm: Well I only tried it recently, so I used it to make sure I had ALL of the codecs possible
[10:47] <kwtm> Warbo:  Okay.  Will keep debugging.  So you don't know where the lock file is?
[10:47] <Warbo> kwtm: No (other than the obvious /var/lock)
[10:48] <Ohzie> CompuCh|p: Check the man for postfix and procmail and see if you can define files to send or whatever, and then see if you can tell it to use the stuff that fetchmail fetches?
[10:48] <Ohzie> That's just a guess at how I would approach it, but I'm not a *nix person yet.
[10:48] <Ohzie> I'm still new to it.
[10:48] <ompaul> ktwm talk about that in #easyubuntu they would most likely want to know, as long as one of the team is awake
[10:48] <Ohzie> While, I am a *nix person. I've been using it as my main desktop for a little over 6 months, now. But I'm not THAT good yet.
[10:48] <Warbo> Does Anyone know how to set up freepops to get my Yahoo mail sent to a local account?
[10:49] <kwtm> ompaul: Okay, wasn't aware of that channel.  Will join
[10:50] <ompaul> kwtm, note I did say as long as they are awake, a few of the devs hang out there
[10:51] <kwtm> ompaul: No response from them so far, so maybe they are asleep.  Are they mostly European?  Should be about 9am there...
[10:52] <ompaul> well actually in CET is it almost 11am in BST / IST it is almost 10am ;-) and I know there are some from europe and some from the Americas
[10:53] <ompaul> and in Finland its getting on for lunch making time ;-)
[10:53] <ompaul> kwtm, ^^^ up a couple of lines
[10:53] <kwtm> ompaul: In other words, they should be getting up pretty soon! :)  (knowing the hackers' tendency to work till late and sleep in :) )
[10:54] <ompaul> we shall have to see
[10:54] <ompaul> kwtm, you can also lodge a bug on launchpad.net against the package
[10:54] <ompaul> that way they will get the info
[10:55] <ompaul> then go there and report in their channel with the url and it will be seen
[10:56] <ompaul> morning rob we had a whole minute of joins and parts and no questions
[10:57] <rob> ?
[10:57] <t-thing> Hi. DVD writing in console?
[10:57] <ompaul> the minute 55 had no questions in it ;-)
[10:57] <Samus_Aran> how in the world do I install Sun JRE and Azureus ?  when I try to remove gjc it removes Sun JRE and Azureus.  gjc can't run Azureus
[10:58] <jonathaN> t-thing: man growisofs
[10:58] <t-thing> jonathaN: thanks
[10:58] <viyyer> hello
[10:59] <ompaul> !azureus
[10:59] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[10:59] <viyyer> I am unable detect my mouse
[10:59] <watson540> maybe you guys did it, you soolved the worlds problems, and now nom ore questions :( where shall i lurk?!
[10:59] <viyyer> it usually gets detected as ps mouse
[11:00] <viyyer> it is a ps/2 mouse by al standards
[11:00] <kwtm> Good grief, I was able to use EasyUbuntu to install other stuff, which means debconf wasn't locked at all; it was the install script for that particular package.  I must be getting some weird packages.
[11:00] <viyyer> my X doesn't start sayinf you don't have mouse
[11:00] <the_Kane> can someone help me with smbfs | mounting windows shares?
[11:00] <gharz> anybody here using Dell 510m?
[11:00] <the_Kane> I've set it up, and there mounted (2 folders) but 1 folder i cant copy things out of.. and they both have the same permissions on the windows machine?
[11:01] <PloneUser4> testing.. can anyone see this?
[11:01] <kwtm> PloneUser4: you said, "testing.. can anyone see this?"
[11:01] <PloneUser4> thanks
[11:01] <ompaul> viyyer, I would suggest that you check that it is plugged in securly, the reason I say this is that I needed to reposition a few cables in the last 24 hours and both usb and ps2 mice were unplugged and plugged in again and they worked - what version of ubuntu have you got?
[11:02] <the_Kane> kwtm can you see this?
[11:02] <kwtm> the_Kane: you said, "kwtm can you see this?"
[11:02] <PloneUser4> I'm tring to install ubuntu on another hard drive, I have the iso image on a usb drive. I don't have a cd burner. Any ideas?
[11:02] <the_Kane> kwtm: thanks ;) trying out registerd nick :P
[11:02] <ompaul> !install
[11:02] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[11:02] <ompaul> PloneUser4, there are your options ^^^
[11:03] <PloneUser4> It's more complicated than that
[11:03] <the_Kane> can annyone recommend any good FPS snes roms?
[11:03] <viyyer> ompaul: it is securely plugged in.. strange part of things is .. that.. there was device before power cut...
[11:04] <_binks_> hello all
[11:04] <viyyer> ompaul: x was working fine too
[11:04] <livingdaylight> any of you familiar with www.linuxsurvival.com ? the modules are cramped over here and i can't use it. Wondered Why?
[11:04] <_binks_> has anyone got a cure for dvd burning issues in dapper
[11:04] <zero> im trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop, it goes to install, asks me language and whatnot, but when detecting my CD rom, it freaksout
[11:04] <ompaul> viyyer, it may be damaged - got any live CDs to check it out with
[11:05] <livingdaylight> _binks_: K3B
[11:05] <Netcad> when I hook up my usb serial cable to the phone. i get this :http://pastebin.ca/64162
[11:05] <zero> My cd rom is a weird external for my laptop, its not USB or anything
[11:05] <zero> a weird plug and play type tho..
[11:05] <_binks_> dont work loads of coasters
[11:05] <viyyer> ompaul: what couldn't been damaged?? Filesystem or the mouse??
[11:05] <_binks_> burns ok no errors but wont recognise disc after burn
[11:05] <livingdaylight> _binks_: have you configured it?
[11:05] <_binks_> uuuurm no
[11:06] <_binks_> how
[11:06] <KanRiNiN> Anybody still up?  I'm having some ATI problems and I've went through the guide 3 times
[11:06] <livingdaylight> _binks_: what won't recognise disc after?
[11:06] <viyyer> ompaul: dmesg tells me there is a mouse -- mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
[11:06] <ompaul> viyyer, powered devices so more than likely the FS but --- there is a slim chance that the mouse has choosen to die at this in appropriate time - "laser mouse"
[11:06] <_binks_> my pc drive that wrote the disc
[11:06] <kabtoffe> Samus_Aran, you have to type: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:06] <_binks_> also tried gnomebaker
[11:06] <Netcad> when I hook up my usb serial cable to the phone. i get this :http://pastebin.ca/64162
[11:06] <kabtoffe> Samus_Aran, then choose the Sun JRE
[11:07] <ompaul> viyyer, really its time to try the mouse with a laptop or other computer and test the box with a live cd
[11:07] <livingdaylight> Guys! any of you know www.linuxsurvival.com ? i'm trying to learn Linux and it is a good site. but hte modules are unavailable to me coz they are crunched up
[11:07] <livingdaylight> _binks_: sounds like your cd rom then, Does it play stuff?
[11:07] <kabtoffe> Samus_Aran, that makes it so that whenever a program calls java it uses the Sun one
[11:08] <viyyer> ompaul: will try it .. anything else to try?
[11:08] <zero> can anyone PLEASE help me
[11:08] <_binks_> its fine under doze
[11:08] <zero> suggestions, ANYTHING??
[11:08] <CaptainMorgan> how do I edit symbolic links/menu buttons, icons? I have DrScheme installed to /usr/bin and I would like to link to it as under menu/Development it is not there yet
[11:08] <CaptainMorgan> using Kubuntu....
[11:09] <zero> can anyone see what im typing?
[11:09] <ompaul> viyyer, thats where you start, prove it there and your half way to $mouse_shop or $rescue burn of your data
[11:09] <_binks_> yes zero
[11:10] <Frogzoo> how to get my USB print (Z52) to print in black only? I don't have a colour print head, so the pages come out blank atm
[11:10] <Samus_Aran> the_Kane: FPS on SNES ?
[11:10] <Samus_Aran> the_Kane: there were only a couple of those ever made
[11:10] <ompaul> Frogzoo, make the picture Greyscale
[11:11] <viyyer> ompaul: my mouse seems to work on my brother's box
[11:11] <ompaul> viyyer, and his on yours?
[11:11] <viyyer> ompaul: I tried my mouse on his box :)
[11:11] <Samus_Aran> kabtoffe: that seems like a good idea, unfortunately when I just tried that it shows only two versions of gjc
[11:12] <Frogzoo> ompaul: no dice unfortunately - even printing text from the command line comes out blank
[11:12] <ompaul> viyyer, there is that, so ctrl + alt + backspace and try to restart X or reboot if it fails
[11:12] <ompaul> Frogzoo, so the printer won't be duped
[11:12] <viyyer> ompaul: X doesn't start as there is no /dev/psaux device
[11:12] <kabtoffe> Samus_Aran, have you installed the package sun-java5-jre from multiverse?
[11:13] <Samus_Aran> kabtoffe: synaptic uninstalled it
[11:13] <ompaul> viyyer, do a reboot and suspect the filesystem if it does not work - have you access to a usb mouse?
[11:13] <kabtoffe> Samus_Aran, why?
[11:13] <Samus_Aran> kabtoffe: along with openoffice, gjc, azureus and a bunch of other things
[11:13] <Samus_Aran> kabtoffe: I tried to install sun jre
[11:13] <viyyer> ompaul: no
[11:13] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know how to make a link to a program that I have in /usr/bin? and add an icon for it?
[11:13] <viyyer> ompaul: Ihave more ps mice
[11:13] <Frogzoo> ompaul: unfortunately not - there's an option to change from colour to b/w in the web menu but it's disabled unfortunately - must be a way to do this, it just means I need to poke around
[11:13] <kabtoffe> Samus_Aran, but you can have them both.
[11:13] <Samus_Aran> CaptainMorgan: do you mean a symlink or an icon ?
[11:14] <the_Kane> Samus_Aran: im on an 8meg graphic card so i figured they would run pretty smooth :P
[11:14] <Samus_Aran> kabtoffe: I will try again.   thanks for the help
[11:14] <CaptainMorgan> Samus_Aran: both, Im using Kubuntu and would like the program to show in KMenu/Development
[11:14] <kabtoffe> Samus_Aran, ok good luck
[11:14] <Samus_Aran> the_Kane: I recommend (as per my nickname) Metroid 3: Super Metroid
[11:14] <CaptainMorgan> Samus_Aran: and when I command line it
[11:15] <ompaul> viyyer, try them if all else fails face the filesystem make a tarball of your stuff sftp/scp it onto your brothers box and reinstall - one blot on a fs is one two many (bad pun)
[11:15] <Samus_Aran> CaptainMorgan: is this a program you have created or installed yourself ?
[11:15] <CaptainMorgan> installed myself - DrScheme
[11:15] <CaptainMorgan> exec is in /usr/bin
[11:15] <Frogzoo> CaptainMorgan: from nautilus, drag with the middle mouse button & choose 'link' - then right click the link -> properties & click image in top left corner & browse to select an image
[11:15] <the_Kane> Samus_Aran: what's that? is it a rom, or a propper game
[11:16] <CaptainMorgan> Frogzoo: Im not using nautilus?
[11:16] <Samus_Aran> CaptainMorgan: for the icon: right-click on the K menu button > menu editor
[11:17] <Samus_Aran> CaptainMorgan: I mean, for the menu entry.  for the icon on your desktop, drag the new menu entry you create onto your desktop
[11:17] <viyyer> ompaul: that's not an issue .. I have a separate /home partition.. I don't have a working breezy/dapper CD now :(
[11:18] <Frogzoo> CaptainMorgan: well then use nautilus, or 'man ln -s' to learn how to symlink
[11:18] <orbitalGolly> heya. anyone wanna help me through getting my mp3 playing on dapper? I've installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and it still doesn't work
[11:18] <viyyer> ompaul: and.. to download at 256 kbps I hope there is some way to work stuff out other than re-install
[11:19] <Frogzoo> orbitalGolly: which player?
[11:19] <viyyer> ompaul: thanks.. lemme rebot and try my luck
[11:19] <Samus_Aran> the_Kane: it is a commercial SNES game. ROMs for it are floating around out there
[11:19] <orbitalGolly> totem as well as xine
[11:19] <viyyer> s/rebot/reboot
[11:19] <Samus_Aran> the_Kane: side-scroller, best action game I've ever played =p
[11:20] <CaptainMorgan> Samus_Aran: excellent, thank you - I just needed to find the menu editor
[11:20] <bgilb> 2nd try of installing live cd didnt work. Debian gave me some errors when installing and using the command "linux26" seemed to get it to install. Is there a similar type of thing for ubuntu?
[11:20] <the_Kane> Samus_Aran: Got a download link?
[11:21] <ompaul> bgilb, are you sharing the hard drive?
[11:21] <bgilb> i have 3 harddrives
[11:21] <bgilb> but windows is on my main harddrive
[11:21] <bgilb> could that be the problem?
[11:21] <kestas> hey, I'm using an ethernet bridge, and I'd like to save the settings so they'll be automatically reapplied on startup, but I'm not sure how to go about it
[11:21] <ompaul> bgilb, what is the non linux version of that thing?
[11:21] <bgilb> what do you mean?
[11:22] <ompaul> bgilb, 95 98 or something else?
[11:22] <bgilb> xp
[11:22] <Frogzoo> orbitalGolly: install libxine-extracodecs
[11:23] <ompaul> bgilb, well if you use dapper there is no option it is a 2.6 kernel as it is for the badger
[11:23] <boha_> how do i make my linux recognise printer?
[11:23] <bgilb> should i try the non live cd version?
[11:24] <orbitalGolly> Frogzoo: which repos do i need? I've got them all ticked, and that package doesn't come up when searched for
[11:24] <ompaul> boha_, if your using ubuntu System Administration Printing - as long as you have it on the same machine, if it is on some piece of windows being shared then you need to install a samba client
[11:24] <ompaul> bgilb, it has the click here to install icon on the desk it should work
[11:24] <Frogzoo> orbitalGolly: universe/multiverse
[11:25] <Frogzoo> boha_: I'm having a similiar problem - USB local printer?
[11:25] <kestas> hey, I'm using an ethernet bridge, and I'd like to save the settings so they'll be automatically reapplied on startup, but I'm not sure how to go about it
[11:25] <ompaul> Frogzoo, what kind of printer?
[11:26] <ompaul> Frogzoo, make model?
[11:26] <Frogzoo> orbitalGolly: click on the repo "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" & select "edit" - then select the universe/multiverse check boxes
[11:26] <Frogzoo> ompaul: Lexmark Z52 USB
[11:26] <bgilb> ah just tried to run the cd directly in windows. says K-meleon.exe - Application Error
[11:26] <Frogzoo> ompaul: it has room for 2 print cartridges - a colour & a b/w - atm, only b/w is installed
[11:27] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know how I can change my locale on 6.06 ?  it is set to Tagalog and I want to set the default to English/Canadian
[11:27] <Samus_Aran> or English/GB or something
[11:27] <Samus_Aran> the things I googled up only showed me how to change the timezone
[11:27] <ompaul> Frogzoo, guess its go get the other cartridge :-(
[11:27] <bgilb> my computer must hate linux
[11:28] <ompaul> bgilb, try taking out the windows disk and installing it on one of the others
[11:28] <Fr0Gs> hey all
[11:28] <Fr0Gs> how do i make teamspeak and xmms use sound at the same time i can only have one sound source :S!
[11:28] <smack-the-pony> anybody have any tips for a Hightpoint Rocketraid 100 user?
[11:28] <frying_fish> Samus_Aran: in system->preferences->language support
[11:28] <frying_fish> does that have what you want.
[11:28] <bgilb> i never put the windows disk in
[11:29] <ompaul> Samus_Aran, System preference keyboard is interesting
[11:29] <Frogzoo> ompaul: not giving up yet, I have not begun... (etc etc)
[11:29] <smack-the-pony> does it even work at all?
[11:29] <smack-the-pony> anyone?
[11:30] <ompaul> bgilb, try this it is a kuldge of the highest order http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[11:30] <Frogzoo> smack-the-pony: might be a custom kernel module job/maybe not - google to track down which driver you need 1st
[11:30] <smack-the-pony> I can't even get dapper to install
[11:31] <smack-the-pony> I don't want to install to the raid
[11:31] <bgilb> it lets me get to the prompt using the live cd
[11:31] <smack-the-pony> just mount it
[11:31] <bgilb> it just seems the desktop gui fails i think
[11:31] <Samus_Aran> frying_fish: I am using icewm at the moment, what is the name of the command that that menu entry would launch ?
[11:31] <frying_fish> well, it was a gnome one, so would be prefixed gnome-something
[11:32] <Samus_Aran> gnome-language-selector looks like it
[11:33] <frying_fish> Samus_Aran: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf?highlight=%28locale%29
[11:33] <orbitalGolly> Frogzoo: clicking on the repo "ubuntu 6.06 lts" and then selecting edit,  allows me to edit the channel, not tick any check boxes. Under the list of channels though I have selected the universe and multiverse boxes and still no joy.
[11:33] <selinium> hi ompaul :)
[11:33] <ompaul> morning sel
[11:33] <ompaul> morning selinium
[11:33] <selinium> :)
[11:34] <ompaul> Seveas, u happy at the top of the pile like that?
[11:35] <Frogzoo> orbitalGolly: now click "reload" & you should be able to find it
[11:36] <orbitalGolly> Frogzoo: there are more packages now for sure, just not the libxine-extracodecs one
[11:37] <Samus_Aran> frying_fish: thanks for the help, that gnome one said it has reset everything .. will just wait and see now if it worked.  it had pages of errors on the console about file not found, after it downloaded a package
[11:37] <frying_fish> :s
[11:37] <orbitalGolly> does it matter that my uri is based in the UK? e.g. http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[11:37] <Samus_Aran> frying_fish: but it now shows English as default in the selector
[11:37] <frying_fish> orbitalGolly: shouldn't make a difference.
[11:37] <frying_fish> Samus_Aran: well thats useful then.
[11:37] <skipmeister> I just destroyed my MBR by trying to install another distro on a USB drive. How do I recover my original boot image?
[11:37] <Fr0Gs> how do i make teamspeak and xmms use sound at the same time i can only have one sound source :S!
[11:40] <Samus_Aran> skipmeister: the wiki has a page on using the install cd to reload a bootloader, lemme find it
[11:40] <kestas> Fr0Gs: use a sound daemon
[11:41] <kestas> Fr0Gs: esd is the usual one on vanilla ubuntu
[11:41] <skipmeister> Samus_Aran, thanks
[11:41] <xcoder> anybody can help me to setup an tv tuner on dapper ? (TIA)
[11:41] <Samus_Aran> skipmeister: http://auk.ca/dd
[11:42] <ompaul> !mythtv
[11:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[11:42] <orbitalGolly> frogzoo: found the package! was clicking 'edit' when I had the source channel selected, not the binary one
[11:42] <Samus_Aran> skipmeister: its aimed at recovering after windows wiped out the MBR, but its the same as another distro doing it, I presume =)
[11:42] <hastesaver> can I mount a directory as a cd?
[11:42] <_niels> Hi folks!
[11:42] <ompaul> !grub
[11:42] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:42] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: what do you mean as a CD ?
[11:42] <_niels> Where is Dapper saving its locale settings?
[11:42] <skipmeister> Samus_Aran, ok thanks, I'll have a look at it now.
[11:42] <frying_fish> Samus_Aran: yeah, its the same, it doesn't make a huge difference.
[11:42] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: a directory is already "mounted" as such
[11:43] <ompaul> skipmeister, ^^ u may find use in ubotus last words
[11:43] <frying_fish> hastesaver: explain what you mean.
[11:43] <hastesaver> Samus_Aran, no, I have copied the contents of a CD into a directory. Is there any way I can make it look like a cd volume?
[11:43] <_niels> in Debian I have 'em in /etc/locale.gen
[11:43] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: look to what ?  are you wanting a /dev/something ?
[11:43] <xcoder> anybody can help me to setup an tv tuner on dapper ? (TIA)
[11:44] <apu> where can i found locales?
[11:44] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: it all depends on what you want thinking you have a CD, e.g. WINE or some app or what
[11:44] <federicopb> bye
[11:44] <apu> i need to set the global character encoding from koi8-r to iso8859-2
[11:44] <hastesaver> I want, say, a CD player app to be able to play from it as if it were really a CD
[11:44] <detectiveinspekt> when I try to view a computer in vncviewer its hard to control around + windows stay visible
[11:44] <Samus_Aran> apu: if you want to change your locale, then you can try the app I just learned about: gnome-language-selector
[11:44] <ompaul> !mountiso
[11:44] <ubotu> To mount an ISO image file, you can use "sudo mount -o loop <image-file> <mount-point>" from a shell (for example, "sudo mount -o loop Ubuntu.iso /mnt/loop", if /mnt/loop exists)
[11:44] <Vaporlze> hi....i have a problem with accessing my windowsXP shares on my dapper....i can see the windowsPC in Network Servers, but when i try to connect it asks for a username, domain and password...i typed in the right username and pw, but it doesnt work.....i even created another winXP useraccount and permitted it to access the shares, but this either doesnt work....can anybody help me?
[11:44] <ompaul> hastesaver, ^^^
[11:44] <apu> i'm in kde
[11:45] <siccness> Is there an MYOB equivalent program for Linux?
[11:45] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: audio CDs have no filesystem, unfortunately, so if you have files in a directory, it is not an audio CD
[11:45] <ompaul> !samba
[11:45] <ubotu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[11:45] <hastesaver> ompaul, ok, how do I make an iso file out of the directory?
[11:45] <Fr0Gs> siccness, can't you just use wine?
[11:45] <siccness> Preferably not.
[11:45] <ompaul> hastesaver, mkisofs
[11:45] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: audio CDs simply have a header that tell the CD player where the tracks start/end, and then have the raw audio dumped onto the CD in 44.1Khz/16bit
[11:45] <xcoder> anybody can help me to setup an tv tuner on dapper ? (TIA)
[11:46] <ompaul> !mythtv
[11:46] <ubotu> [mythtv]  for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[11:46] <_niels> xcoder: what tv-tuner is ist?
[11:46] <ompaul> xcoder ^^^
[11:46] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: the only way to have the raw CD on your hard drive would be in a .bin/.cue combination file, which can copy CDs in raw mode
[11:46] <detectiveinspekt> MYOB made in New Zealand
[11:46] <xcoder> _niels:  Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 03)
[11:46] <zero> hello
[11:46] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: what you get out of ISO files, or from a mounted CD, are the data tracks (if any)
[11:46] <hastesaver> ompaul, ok, got it. I'll look at mkisofs. Thanks.
[11:47] <zero> anyone awake?
[11:47] <_niels> xcoder: you have all modules loaded?
[11:48] <xcoder> _niels: seems like modules is ok ...
[11:48] <_niels> xcoder: lspci is telling you what?
[11:48] <hastesaver> Samus_Aran, thanks, I got a somewhat clear idea of what's happening. What about data CDs? What about DVDs?
[11:49] <xcoder> _niels: Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 03)
[11:49] <xcoder> _niels: Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 201
[11:49] <_niels> xcoder: that looks quite alright
[11:49] <xcoder> _niels: Memory at e6000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] 
[11:50] <zero> can anyone help me with an install of Ubuntu on my laptop?
[11:50] <_niels> xcoder: what module have you loaded for your card?
[11:50] <xcoder> _niels: cx8800, cx88xx, tuner
[11:50] <Seveas> ompaul, ?
[11:50] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: DVDs can contain UDF data and/or ISO9660 data (limited to 4GiB).  there is not "raw audio" form of DVDs that I know of
[11:51] <Morden> zero: Hmmm, burn the CD, enter it in your drive, start it ^^ that should do it for install
[11:51] <gharz> Warbo, i was able to install VMware server now.
[11:51] <zero> well
[11:51] <zero> Morden: the problem is where its at now
[11:51] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: data CDs work by using up one of those audio tracks (from 1 to 99).  some older CD players can't detect data tracks, and will simply play the data as sound, heh
[11:51] <gharz> Warbo, it was just a very elementary command that fixed the problem. rm -r /etc/vmware
[11:51] <gharz> :)
[11:51] <viksa> how to check if my nvidia driver is correctly installed ?
[11:51] <_niels> xcoder: hmmm...and whats the problem; it should work fine
[11:51] <zero> its stuck at a blue screen after trying to detect my External plug and play CD rom
[11:52] <zero> its not USB, i dunno what kind of connection it is exactly
[11:52] <xcoder> _niels: dmesg said: tuner 2-0060: tuner 2-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (cx88[0] ) / tuner 0x60: Tuner type absent
[11:52] <Morden> blue screen? in ubuntu?
[11:52] <amnezia> hi. any chance to turn off the possibility to shutdown and restart the system in the logout menu?
[11:52] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: mixed-mode CDs are when there are both audio and data tracks on one CD (e.g. many game CDs use this), and they usually use the first track as data and the rest as audio
[11:52] <zero> the installation background is a blue screen
[11:52] <boha_> what version do you have zero?
[11:52] <xonic> hello
[11:52] <zero> Breezy Badger
[11:53] <xonic> how do you know if you have an AMD64?
[11:53] <zero> and im running Dapper Drake on my PC
[11:53] <_niels> xcoder: thats kind of weird
[11:53] <Morden> how were you able to boot from the cd if  it isn't recognizing the cd-drive?
[11:53] <viksa> how to check if my nvidia driver is correctly installed ?
[11:53] <xcoder> _niels: he doesn't work ... i have tried with tvtime/mythtv/zapping ....
[11:53] <xonic> viska
[11:53] <zero> thats what im wondering lol
[11:53] <zero> its really weird
[11:53] <xonic> viska : press CTRLALTBackspace
[11:53] <xpil> I'm looking for someone that knows anything about installing lampp+odbc for ibm iseries on dapper
[11:53] <Morden> did you try Dapper?
[11:53] <viksa> xonic, i don't see the logo
[11:53] <xonic> viska : should see a nvidia logo flash
[11:53] <Morden> you said before you were using breezy
[11:54] <zero> dont have a dapper CD yet, its coming in the mail
[11:54] <zero> im outta blank CDs
[11:54] <zero> lol
[11:54] <xonic> alright
[11:54] <zero> i upgraded
[11:54] <xonic> your in luck viska
[11:54] <xonic> i JUST installed my drivers
[11:54] <xonic> i will give you some links that i used
[11:54] <xonic> ready?
[11:54] <boha_> i have same problem zero on my PC with ubuntu 5.10
[11:54] <hastesaver> Samus_Aran, thanks, that was very informative.
[11:54] <viksa> xonic, yes :)
[11:54] <Morden> no RW cd?
[11:54] <nzx> hey guys, whats a good two pane filemanager ?
[11:54] <xcoder> _niels: i'am very confused ... he workes ok on breezy .. after update to dapper doesn't worked
[11:54] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: if you want a virtual CD, you can either create an .iso file and then mount it "loopback" (which means a pretent device that actually came from a file), or you can install CDEmu http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ to have it create an actual CD-ROM device
[11:54] <boha_> dapper drake works great
[11:54] <zero> nope. none
[11:54] <Morden> nzx: Midnight Commander
[11:55] <Samus_Aran> *pretend
[11:55] <_niels> xcoder: DD is still not in STABLE
[11:55] <Morden> nzx: apt-get install mc
[11:55] <nzx> Morden, thanks i will check it out
[11:55] <xonic> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[11:55] <ompaul> _niels, how did you try to install it
[11:55] <nzx> Morden, its sudo apt-get install mc, hehe
[11:55] <ompaul> xonic, msg those to viksa
[11:55] <hastesaver> Samus_Aran, and will the same thing work for DVDs?
[11:55] <_niels> ompaul: how did i try to install what?
[11:55] <ompaul> dapper
[11:55] <Samus_Aran> CDEmu is a small addition to the Linux kernel.  it can be useful if you want to test mixed-mode CDs without burning them, for example
[11:55] <zero> so are you all just as lost as me?
[11:55] <_niels> ompaul: my DD works fine, as far as I can see
[11:56] <Samus_Aran> I've no idea if CDEmu is available as a prebuilt module for Ubuntu or not, might be
[11:56] <viksa> xonic, tnx
[11:56] <Morden> nzx: ^^
[11:56] <xpil> I'm looking for someone that knows anything about installing lampp+odbc for ibm iseries on dapper
[11:56] <ompaul> _niels, it is released
[11:56] <xcoder> _niels: hmmm ... what to do ?
[11:56] <xcoder> _niels: it's possible to downgrade to breezy ?
[11:56] <_niels> ompaul: AFAIK it is...
[11:57] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: the loopback method will work for any filesystem.  for example you can use a 250MiB file "whatever.img" as a mini hard drive, format it with ReiserFS or Ext3 and mount it to /mnt/whatever
[11:57] <_niels> xcoder: AFAIK it is spossible
[11:57] <xonic> viska, sended you two links
[11:57] <xonic> does anyone know how to tell if you have an AMD64?
[11:57] <_niels> ompaul: AFAIK it is released but not as yet in stable
[11:57] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: and being that DVDs don't have that raw audio mode which lacks a filesystem, it is easy to create DVD images, simply go: cat /dev/dvd > my_dvd_image.iso
[11:57] <zero> Xonic www.belarc.com
[11:57] <hastesaver> Samus_Aran, that's nice.
[11:57] <xonic> i don't want to install anyhting
[11:58] <xonic> ive used that before, newly installed ubuntu =] 
[11:58] <ompaul> _niels, so you said: <_niels> xcoder: DD is still not in STABLE  -- I am at a loss  .. ahhh hang on DD is not the drake
[11:58] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: that won't work on encrypted DVDs, though, because they block physical access to the hardware if the CSS key isn't given
[11:58] <nzx> Morden, is there a two pane filemanager for gnome ?
[11:58] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: for that you can use VobCopy to mirror the DVD, minus the encryption
[11:58] <Morden> nzx: hmmm, dunno ^^
[11:58] <xcoder> _niels: if i'll replacein sources.list dapper with breezy is ok ? ...
[11:58] <hastesaver> Samus_Aran, ok. And vobcopy creates a directory, not an .iso file, right?
[11:59] <Morden> nzx: you could use total commander in conjunction with wine
[11:59] <Warbo> nzx: midnoght commander (in gnome-terminal) or maybe directoryopus (the free one)
[11:59] <_niels> xcoder: should be alright, yes
[11:59] <Warbo> midnight, sorry
[11:59] <chavo> there's gnome commander also
[11:59] <zero> i fucking hate blue screens
[11:59] <xonic> does anyone know how to tell if you have an AMD64?
[11:59] <xonic> i have something AMD 2800....?
[11:59] <Warbo> xonic: Look at the badge on the case :)
[11:59] <nzx> Morden, mc is good, i'll use that for myself, but i need something easier for other users
[11:59] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: yes
[12:00] <xonic> i don't have the case anymore
[12:00] <redrum> if you dont know dont bother about it would be my suggestion for now 8)
[12:00] <zenit> xonic: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:00] <ompaul> !language
[12:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:00] <chavo> nzx, try gnome-commander
[12:00] <Morden> nzx: can't help you then...
[12:00] <chavo> looks like  a gui mc
[12:00] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: vobcopy dumps the .vob .bup and .ifo files from the video_ts or audio_ts folders
[12:00] <kallei> I am trying to mount a ntfs disk, but this is my problem:  sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /media/western1 ntfs christoffer,umask=0222   mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/western1/ busy   (I have compiled my own kernel, can that have something to do with it? how do i know if i have ntfs support ?
[12:00] <nzx> chavo, thanks
[12:00] <_niels> zero: could you be a bit more patient?
[12:00] <ompaul> zerdith, don't use that language in this channel thanks, we work for a G rating
[12:00] <xcoder> _niels: i'll try right now
[12:00] <timmyp3> hello all
[12:00] <Warbo> nzx: I found a package "directoryopus" which is supposedly like the older verisons of DirectoryOpus on Amiga
[12:00] <_niels> xcoder: okay...
[12:00] <xpil> I'm looking for someone that knows anything about installing lampp+odbc for ibm iseries on Dapper
[12:00] <zero> sot=rry..
[12:00] <Morden> gnome commander looks also nice:  http://www.nongnu.org/gcmd/ss/shot_1.1.7_sv.png
[12:00] <xonic> zenit, now im looking at what
[12:01] <CompuCh|p> Hmm, I have a line "!username" in my /etc/procmailrc file. But the mail doesn't get forwarded and when I check the log it says "Skipped !username".
[12:01] <xonic> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+
[12:01] <nzx> Warbo, cool, i will check that out as well, i've never used an amiga :(
[12:01] <timmyp3> can anyone help with an ubuntu (6.06) install issue?
[12:01] <hastesaver> Samus_Aran, and then if I want to mount the contents of that directory to get a pretend dvd drive, what do I do? Should I first create a .iso from it?
[12:01] <kallei> how can i see what speed my cpu is running in?
[12:01] <xpil> timmyp3: what issue?
[12:01] <Morden> chavo: thx for mentionen gnome commander... I guess I have to get that also myself ^^
[12:02] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: again it depends on what you are wanting to use it for.  if it was a Video DVD, then you can simply play it with several movie players
[12:02] <chavo> no problem
[12:02] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: e.g. xine .
[12:02] <timmyp3> I'm trying to install using a CD and choosing the "Install" option...
[12:02] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: or with MPlayer: mplayer -dvd-device .
[12:02] <xcoder> _niels: after replaced dapper with breezy ... what apt-get commands need tu run ?
[12:02] <Warbo> nzx: DirectoryOpus became a replacement for the official Workbench GUI, and version 4 was made Free Software. Before it went into a whole desktop environment it was a 2pane file manager, and that is apparently what the Linux one is (which is also Free)
[12:02] <akudewan> kallei: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:02] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: oops, I meant: mplayer -dvd-device . dvd://
[12:02] <xcoder> _niels: apt-get dist upgrade ?
[12:02] <CompuCh|p> timmyp3 it helps asking your question in one line.
[12:02] <_niels> xcoder: yep
[12:02] <nzx> Warbo, cool
[12:02] <xcoder> _niels: dist downgrade ?
[12:03] <nzx> whats the command to update the gnome menus ?
[12:03] <timmyp3> ok, I will
[12:03] <xcoder> _niels: :)
[12:03] <Warbo> nzx: I think you just do "killall gnome-oanel"
[12:03] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: "." being the current directory, so you would switch to the directory where the ./video_ts folder is
[12:03] <Warbo> panel, not oanel :)
[12:03] <hastesaver> Samus_Aran, thanks, that's great. But is there a generic way that will work for all apps?
[12:03] <timmyp3> while going through the setup process to install v6.06, it gets to "loading hardware drivers" and hangs when "failed" is displayed
[12:03] <zenit> xonic: oki, that seems to be a 32-bit cpu.
[12:03] <nzx> Warbo, thanks
[12:04] <xonic> zenit, so i don't have a 64?
[12:04] <timmyp3> any ideas?
[12:04] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: if you need it to really pretend it is a physical device at the kernel level, you will need something like CDEmu kernel driver
[12:04] <xonic> lol, im guessing
[12:04] <zenit> xonic: nope
[12:04] <xonic> ok thx
[12:04] <kallei> akudewan:  i have a amd 3200+ (should run in 2000mhz) , and the /proc/cpuinfo  says  MHz   800.00    that is not good right?
[12:04] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: most apps can get by with just the files that would have been on the device
[12:04] <xpil> timmyp3: does "hangs" mean that you are unable to switch between consoles?
[12:04] <hastesaver> Samus_Aran, ok, makes sense.
[12:05] <IvanDragomilov> 1 CDs requested in 2006-05-19. 1 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-05-24.<---------- is this the newest version of ubuntu
[12:05] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: what I use, myself, is a set of aliases for mounting things as my regular user.  one of the commands is to mount any ISO9660 image I want
[12:05] <Morden> IvanDragomilov: I don't think it's ubuntu Dapper.. I think its still breezing
[12:05] <xpil> if you can switch, try Ctrol-Alt-Fx (I do not remember exact console number, try F4 or F3) - and look if there is anything 'interesting' at the end of log
[12:05] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: e.g. mount-iso ~/my_cd.iso
[12:05] <timmyp3> "hangs" means it just displays "loading hardware drivers" "failed" and nothing works until I reset
[12:05] <MistaED> hey can someone tell me the easiest way it is to install ubuntu from a samba or nfs share? i have this laptop which keeps having problems reading from cd's, it can boot ok from them and function most of the time (slowly) but the cdrom is flaky and i'd rather do it over the lan
[12:06] <akudewan> kallei: I guess you need to set the clock speed right, don't know how though. Thru the bios I guess
[12:06] <ompaul> IvanDragomilov, it would be 5.10
[12:06] <Warbo> Samus_Aran: I found a script somewhere that when you right click on an iso, it says "mount ISO image"
[12:06] <ompaul> !mountiso
[12:06] <ubotu> To mount an ISO image file, you can use "sudo mount -o loop <image-file> <mount-point>" from a shell (for example, "sudo mount -o loop Ubuntu.iso /mnt/loop", if /mnt/loop exists)
[12:06] <IvanDragomilov> thx
[12:06] <Samus_Aran> ompaul: the alias I made up does not require root permissions, as it is set up using a symlink and an entry in /etc/fstab
[12:07] <Morden> Warbo, you mean this? http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/24/nautilus-script-to-mount-iso-files/
[12:07] <ompaul> Samus_Aran, fstab requires mount which requires root
[12:07] <Warbo> Morden: Probably the same, but the page I found wasn't Ubuntu specific
[12:08] <xpil> timmyp3: what about livecd, does it start?
[12:08] <Morden> warbo: ok ^^
[12:08] <ompaul> Samus_Aran, or should I say sudo ;-)
[12:08] <zero> cool
[12:08] <zero> maybe this is a good sign
[12:08] <timmyp3> xpil: let me check
[12:08] <zero> now it says Scanning CD-rom
[12:08] <Samus_Aran> ompaul: I mean it is a one-time setup of /etc/fstab, and from then on the regular user can mount any image they want
[12:08] <viyyer> ompaul: there?
[12:09] <haffe> Hello. I'm having som troubles. I am following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto?highlight=%28dmraid%29#head-49fd6b645bc69ef6a6f4b12830dfa0b8d7b2cba5 But I get the following error invoke-rc.d: initscript dmraid, action "start" failed. What to do now?
[12:09] <ompaul> Samus_Aran, makes sense, so ehh never thought of the world like that before
[12:09] <Warbo> Samus_Aran: The best way for user-level mounting would be to somehow tell gnome-vulume-manager about the image
[12:09] <Samus_Aran> in my /etc/fstab I have a line like this: /tmp/temp.iso  udf,iso9660  loop,ro,unhide,user,noauto,uid=1000,gid=0  0  0
[12:09] <viyyer> ompaul: the mouse works fine with debian
[12:09] <Samus_Aran> oops, forgot the second part: /tmp/temp.iso  /mnt/cd_image
[12:09] <kallei> akudewan:  its right in the bios ...
[12:10] <ompaul> viyyer, looks like the fs got a fright alright - you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to have it check for the mouse again
[12:10] <viyyer> ompaul: there should be some way to get it working with ubuntu??
[12:10] <Samus_Aran> and the alias symlinks the file you give it to /tmp/temp.iso and then mounts it loopback
[12:11] <viyyer> ompaul: strange but true.. but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't ask me a question about the type of mouse.
[12:11] <Samus_Aran> Warbo: I am unfamiliar with gnome-volume-manager, but being that I am very often on the command line and still wanting things to work .. [without X] 
[12:11] <nzx> has anyone managed to get a sony vaio memorystick reader working in their laptop ?
[12:11] <Warbo> viyyer: Should ask "PS/2 or ImPS/2"
[12:11] <viyyer> ompaul: there is no file of name /dev/psaux
[12:11] <viyyer> Warbo: it doesn't
[12:11] <xpil> is there anybody that has properly installed php with ibm iseries odbc drivers? I would like to switch from Win32 XAMPP to dapper LAMPP, but I can't find out how to query database from php code. I can run queries from the commandline, so I presume that mu oDBC drivers are configured properly, but I can't run queries from inside php
[12:12] <ompaul> viyyer, ehh it does on my machines - and ehh it looks like your fs took a hammering :-(
[12:13] <Warbo> viyyer: You can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf with an example file open and put a mouse entry in it
[12:13] <viyyer> ompaul: XFS is usually pretty stable.. I used it at my previous office servers.. where the ups failed
[12:13] <viyyer> not too rarely
[12:13] <viyyer> Warbo: which mouse do I add
[12:13] <Warbo> viyyer: XFS is good for HUGE files
[12:13] <viyyer> as there is no /dev/psaux ??
[12:13] <Warbo> viyyer: I think mine is set to /dev/mouse, I will check
[12:14] <Samus_Aran> viyyer: just use /dev/input/mice and it will use all available mice
[12:14] <viyyer> Warbo: there is no /dev/mouse
[12:14] <Warbo> viyyer: It is /dev/input/mice
[12:14] <ompaul> viyyer, well look at the evidence - something is wrong - pop the drive into your brothers PC and see if it works there - maybe the motherboard took a hammering but it does not seem likely, there is some little nasty there - I would be looking at a reinstall - but that is just me
[12:14] <viyyer> Warbo: no /dev/input/mouse
[12:14] <Warbo> viyyer: mice
[12:15] <akudewan> kallei: I might be wrong about "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[12:15] <viyyer> ompaul: as I said.. as the mouse works fine on my debian boot.. MoBo issue can be ruled out
[12:15] <ompaul> viyyer, crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 63 2006-06-11 09:19 /dev/input/mice    devfs is not udev by a long chalk lots of things have moved around
[12:15] <viyyer> Warbo: not /dev/input :)
[12:15] <Samus_Aran> viyyer: /dev/input/mice is a special device which combines all mice into a single device.  this way if you plug a USB mouse in while in X, it will just appear onscreen immediately, no restart needed
[12:16] <Toma-> ive got an odd little error, i had the nvidia-glx driver installed but its broken for savage. SO, i installed official nvidia drivers and now i get an API mismatch error with nvidia driver version 7174?! crazy. any ideas? only way to get the b**tard to work is to 'sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia' after it fails to load...
[12:16] <timmyp3> xpil: when I try to boot using the LiveCD I get "OK, booting the kernel. ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP."
[12:16] <Toma-> also, /etc/init.d/nvidia isnt getting run
[12:16] <Warbo> viyyer: Well /dev/input/mice works for me (but I am trying to fiddle with it so that my graphics tablet is handled seperately)
[12:16] <ompaul> viyyer, then you have said it yourself, it used to work, it stopped working on a hard power off - the fs needs a good checking and may be damaged
[12:16] <ompaul> viyyer, who knows what happens to a disk in a power off write wait state
[12:16] <viyyer> ompaul: but.. I just booted it just now on the debian partition to check ... and X works there
[12:17] <ompaul> viyyer, your ubuntu partition seems to be damaged
[12:17] <viyyer> ompaul: alrite.. lemme go to init one and xfs check it :)
[12:17] <MistaED> could someone tell me how to verify packages with apt? cheers
[12:17] <MistaED> like all packages on the system
[12:17] <Warbo> Toma-: Remove every nvidia driver you have (packages and "official" .run file) and start from scratch. It is a bad idea to install a different method when you have bits of the old one lying around
[12:17] <Toma-> Warbo: i already did that
[12:17] <viyyer> ompaul: Warbo thanks.. I'll be back :) hopefully not
[12:18] <Toma-> the strange thing is, ive never had 7174 version installed
[12:18] <ompaul> viyyer, I do not believe that the fsck is going to help
[12:18] <ompaul> viyyer, overwrite a file and bingo
[12:18] <viyyer> ompaul: overwrite which file ??
[12:18] <Warbo> Toma-: Did you remove nvidia-glx, linux-restricted-modules-<kernelversion>, nvidia-kernel-<kernelversion> and nvidia-kernel-source ?
[12:18] <Toma-> oh! restricted modules?
[12:18] <Warbo> Toma-: Well, if you don't need them for anything else (MadWifi, etc.)
[12:19] <Toma-> nope!~ :D
[12:19] <snoops> how can I make a screen capture of xgl/compiz? Want to show off the effects to a friend.. I'm using amd64.
[12:19] <ompaul> viyyer, think about it for a moment some random part of your FS that deals with /dev or the mouse or hal or something -- who knows you had a power cut you don't know what happened in the last few milliseconds before the lights went out
[12:19] <tdn> How do I set my console to use 1600x1200? I have tried with vga=795, but it tells me that is an invalid value on bootup.
[12:19] <Toma-> Warbo: linux-386 is a meta-package right?
[12:19] <Warbo> snoops: The best method is Istanbul, but that still uses gstreamer0.8 and is broken in Dapper. Next best is xscreencap
[12:20] <Warbo> Toma-: Yes
[12:20] <Toma-> ok thx
[12:20] <snoops> will xscreencap give me fluid video?
[12:20] <Warbo> snoops: As long as your computer is fast enough (AMD64 probably is)
[12:21] <timmyp3> Any one have an idea as the cause of a message of "Unable to locate RSDP" while attempting to install Dapper?
[12:21] <snoops> yeah a 4400+
[12:21] <hastesaver> Warbo, what is xscreencap? it isn't in the repos. (And why is istanbul broken? )
[12:21] <Samus_Aran> Toma-: the nVIDIA official files have an uninstall option which is useful for cleaning up
[12:21] <Samus_Aran> Toma-: and then force-reinstall the Ubuntu ones
[12:21] <Warbo> snoops: Errr..... No, it won't work. You could try it on my computer, want to swap? :)
[12:21] <viyyer> ompaul: what do you think is the solution... ?
[12:21] <Toma-> Samus_Aran: i think ive got it covered :D thanks
[12:21] <Warbo> snoops: (joke)
[12:21] <viyyer> ompaul: you mean re-install ?
[12:22] <ompaul> viyyer, glad you see it my way, it is not trustworthy the way it is
[12:22] <viyyer> ompaul: comeon... all my cutomization... and.. all my packes to be downloaded again
[12:22] <Warbo> hastesaver: xvidcap may be in the repos. Istanbul uses gstreamer0.8 but I don't know if that is why it is broken (it worked for me in Breezy, but not Dapper)
[12:22] <snoops> haha ;)
[12:22] <ompaul> viyyer, trust the filesystem them
[12:22] <macsim> salut
[12:22] <Goshawk> i've a big ogg file and i should see the first 10 mb of it, i've ssh access, is there a way to copy in a new file only 10M of this big file?
[12:22] <Hattori> "-add "/usr/bin/startcompiz" to gnome session startup programs" --> what that thing means? and how to do that? is it possible to do that in terminal?
[12:22] <viyyer> ompaul: come on.. The power situation is not gonna be beter in india eitherways
[12:23] <snoops> where do I get xscreencap from?
[12:23] <viyyer> ompaul: I could go crazy :(
[12:23] <Toma-> ok rebooting! thanks Warbo
[12:23] <Warbo> Hattori: You can add that line to a file called ".gnomerc" in your home folder (it will be a new file)
[12:23] <ompaul> viyyer, your got by catch 22, you don't know nor do I what is wrong with that disk - but we both know one thing, it is not stable at this time
[12:24] <Warbo> ompaul: Catch22 would be: The disk has failed, the solution to fix it is on the disk :)
[12:24] <Hattori> Warbo: "sudo pico /home/me/.gnomerc" and paste "/usr/bin/startcompiz"?
[12:24] <viyyer> ompaul: true...lemme do a xfs_check and lemme take it from there
[12:24] <Warbo> Hattori: Yes
[12:24] <Hattori> k thx
[12:24] <fyrestrtr> how do you set gnome to use passive ftp in nautilus?
[12:24] <Warbo> Hattori: Depending on what is in that startcompiz script you may want to put "/usr/bin/startcompiz &"
[12:25] <Samus_Aran> anyone know any pretty games from multiverse ?  there are a billion of them in there, feel like trying something
[12:25] <hastesaver> viyyer, what about the power situation in India? :) (Let me guess, you dared to use a computer without a UPS?) ;)
[12:25] <viyyer> hastesaver: no the voltage fluctuated enough to conk the UPS..
[12:25] <hastesaver> Samus_Aran, frozen bubble, supertux, enigma are my favourite, but they're all silly games :)
[12:25] <Toma-> works great! thx again Warbo :)
[12:25] <Warbo> Samus_Aran: sudo apt-get install beneath-a-steel-sky
[12:25] <xpil> timmyp3: have you tried to find this message on google? I'm afraid I won't help you anymore, because I've never sesn such message before
[12:25] <Hattori> Warbo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OQ4x1i58.html
[12:25] <viyyer> here... even line conditioner fail sometimes
[12:26] <Toma-> Samus_Aran: what kind of game u after?
[12:26] <hastesaver> viyyer, whoa. The UPS is supposed to take care of any possible voltage fluctuation; sorry to hear that
[12:26] <viyyer> hastesaver: the worst and most expensive UPS in india is APC
[12:26] <Warbo> Hattori: OK, you don't need the & (because it is in that script)
[12:26] <Pooky> anyone succesfully compile otrproxy and could possibly point me to some hints?
[12:26] <rixth> A lot of my preferences have been reset (gnome panel, gaim, xchat....) why would that be?
[12:26] <fyrestrtr> APC make very decent UPS -- I have one at the office; and it has saved my butt so many times.
[12:27] <viyyer> hastesaver: they sell you a UPS with is ghastly expensive and as you to buy a line conditioner as comparable by expense
[12:27] <Toma-> rixth: new /home folder?
[12:27] <rixth> Toma-, nope. I just logged in and they had gone
[12:27] <viyyer> fyrestrtr: depends on the kind of power lines you have
[12:27] <viyyer> anyways..
[12:27] <Toma-> rixth: have you got /home on a different partition?
[12:27] <rixth> Yes
[12:27] <snoops> Warbo where would I get xscreencap?
[12:27] <Toma-> partition mounted?
[12:27] <rixth> Not all of my preferences have been reest though, not all of them.
[12:27] <gharz> anybody here who's using dell 510m?
[12:27] <hastesaver> fyrestrtr, you don't live in India. I heard from someone (may be a joke, though) that the strongest UPSes are made in India; because western countries don't know how bad voltage fluctations can be :)
[12:28] <snoops> google for xscreencap only returns 3 results :(
[12:28] <Warbo> snoops: Wait a minute... I think it is actually called xvidcap :)
[12:28] <rixth> !tell gharz about ask
[12:28] <snoops> ah
[12:28] <Warbo> sorry
[12:28] <snoops> I had a look for xvidcap..didn't see any amd64 releases
[12:28] <Warbo> snoops: There is a gvidcap as well I think (for a gui)
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> hastesaver: it doesn't matter where the UPS is made; UPS is not a generator; and you shouldn't use it as such
[12:29] <snoops> yeah haven't seen xvidcap or gvidcap in any repositories for amd64
[12:29] <snoops> :(
[12:29] <Warbo> snoops: linux32/chroot?
[12:29] <Samus_Aran> Toma-: anything pretty =p  I just don't know what one to try out of the plethora of them listed in multiverse
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> anyone recommend a decent gui for ftp?
[12:29] <Samus_Aran> Toma-: I am in a very eye-candy mood atm
[12:30] <snoops> err.. maybe I don't have the right reponitories?
[12:30] <Warbo> Samus_Aran: Have you played Trigger?
[12:30] <Samus_Aran> fyrestrtr: not me, I gave up on FTP GUIs a few years ago, heh.  I use ncftp or lftp now
[12:30] <Samus_Aran> Warbo: nope
[12:30] <Warbo> snoops: I meant you can use linux32 or a 32bit chroot to install 32bit programs
[12:30] <Samus_Aran> Warbo: sounds like Kobo Deluxe
[12:30] <Samus_Aran> Warbo: I mean, the name reminded me of Kobo (a space shooter I love)
[12:31] <Warbo> Samus_Aran: Don't know that one. Trigger is a rally game where you have to drive into loads of rings in order
[12:31] <hastesaver> Samus_Aran, frozen bubble and supertux are certainly cute and pretty. Very far from shooters, though :)
[12:31] <snoops> would that work on a 64bit system though?
[12:31] <Samus_Aran> "trigger is already the newest version", heh, I already installed it.  I went down the list and installed a ton of the games
[12:31] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: played both of those before
[12:31] <Warbo> snoops: That is what they are for! (there is no point installing a 32bit chroot when your entire system is 32bit anyway :))
[12:32] <hastesaver> Does anyone know of a "best games" list like http://games.linux.sk/index.php ?
[12:32] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: I loved the graphics, sound and animation of Frozen Bubble, but found it painfully easy.  I am excellent at Puzzle Bobble (arcade version).  I played over and hour of Frozen Bubble without coming close to losing, then quit.  haven't played it since
[12:33] <SniZ> 
[12:33] <SniZ> hi
[12:33] <eeboy> ##linux
[12:33] <Warbo> Samus_Aran: I have played frozen bubble so much now that it is far too annoying to do the first levels again
[12:33] <SniZ> what about ubuntu 6.06?
[12:33] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:33] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:33] <Warbo> Samus_Aran: Have you played Crack Attack? It is great for multiplayer
[12:33] <Samus_Aran> Warbo: nope, haven't heard of that one
[12:34] <ompaul> SniZ, its released, and it runs on x86 amd64 ppc and runs but is not out the door for sparc
[12:34] <rixth> Don't be a party pooper ompaul =(
[12:34] <SniZ> gggg
[12:34] <Samus_Aran> Warbo: oh !  I just remembered I wanted to try out Scorch 3D.  I used to love Scorched Earth for DOS (by Wendel Hicken), and saw screenshots of the 3D one some fan made, looked neat
[12:34] <hastesaver> Warbo, you can start from any level you want: 'frozen-bubble -l21', for example.
[12:34] <Warbo> hastesaver: Really? Cool!
[12:34] <rixth> Anyway, how can I set what slider the volume buttons on my keyboard affect? Currently they change Master Mono. I want them to change PCM.
[12:35] <SniZ> i have Ubuntu 6.06, i have riva tnt2, i have nvidia-legacy driverz, whren i enable this drivers and reload X, my computer freeze, what da f?
[12:35] <Samus_Aran> hastesaver: do the levels actually get harder ?
[12:36] <Toma-> SniZ: have you got an SiS based mobo?
[12:36] <SniZ> Toma-, no, i have i865
[12:36] <Toma-> ok
[12:36] <Samus_Aran> 865 ?
[12:36] <Toma-> intel
[12:36] <SniZ> yes
[12:36] <Samus_Aran> oh.  I thought you typed i586 backward
[12:36] <Warbo> Samus_Aran: They use that old arcade tactic which fools players "Do you want to continue?" which lets you carry on at whatever level, but your score goes back to zero and it is much harder to get a highscore because you have missed out all of the easy levels
[12:36] <damg_> im currently copying my /usr onto a different partition due to lack of space ^^, are there any problems if I replace the /usr by a symlink to /media/sda3/usr ?
[12:36] <Samus_Aran> nm me
[12:37] <neoxan> hi all
[12:37] <Stormx2> damg_: Best mount it, I think.
[12:37] <neoxan> is it better to use a 686 kernel if i got a P4?
[12:37] <pema> how do i boot Ubuntu 6.06 LTS without the basic installer
[12:37] <neoxan> or should i stay at 386?
[12:37] <ompaul> rixth, its not really support questions its more like we should be in #ubuntu-offtopic so that your questions can be seen, but not answered by me cos I have no idea, if crimsun is about it might be worth your while asking him
[12:37] <Warbo> neoxan: You may notice it is slightly faster
[12:37] <damg_> Stormx2, mount the partition as /usr?
[12:37] <pema> rather than go straight to live
[12:37] <Stormx2> damg_: Yeah.
[12:37] <neoxan> warbo, also if i only got a 1,7 ghz processor?
[12:38] <neoxan> :)
[12:38] <Samus_Aran> scorched3d is installed, going to try it out =)  bbl
[12:38] <damg_> Stormx2, I have there different data, too
[12:38] <rixth> He's not on. Ah well, it is not time critical.
[12:38] <damg_> Stormx2, and rests of an another distribution ;)
[12:38] <Stormx2> damg_ : Oh i don't know. Ask someone else ;)
[12:38] <xpil> scorched3d is overloaded with grapgical stuff, and IMO is much worse than any 2d version
[12:39] <Stormx2> damg_: But a symlink should work.
[12:39] <Warbo> neoxan: Processor speed doesn't matter. Actually, the slower the better, since the 686 is optimised for P4 processors so it is actually more efficient than the generic 386. You want the most efficient components on a slower system (and 1.7GHz is not slow in Linux land :))
[12:39] <neoxan> thanks warbo :)
[12:39] <damg_> Stormx2, oh, then ill go look for a livecd, don't want to do that while the system is running D:
[12:40] <Stormx2> damg_: True ;)
[12:40] <IvanDragomilov> can i use ubuntu in turkish ?
[12:40] <pema> is there no way of using a non gui installer, like in 5.10?
[12:41] <xpil> pema: yes, there is
[12:41] <imarvind> can i use the xgl drivers only for nvidia and ati cards ?
[12:41] <damg_> pema, as far as i know the non-livecd image is the old installer
[12:41] <Hobbsee> pema: yes, the "alternate" cd
[12:41] <Hobbsee> it is
[12:41] <damg_> imarvind, it should work with intel cards, too
[12:41] <pema> ty Hobbsee
[12:41] <SniZ> what about my problem?
[12:41] <pema> :)
[12:41] <imarvind> mine's an onboard savage 3 with a MSI mainboard
[12:42] <Afief> Is the linux kernel written in C or ASM? the code i've seen is C, but as far as i know it has to be written in ASM
[12:42] <Frogzoo> hastesaver: this should fit the bill: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfdownloads/topten.php?list=hit - strangely, I don't see WoW or Lincity-NG, meh
[12:42] <fyrestrtr> why does it *have* to be written in C?
[12:42] <Grant> Hey Does Konqeruer work with .net / ASP pages?
[12:42] <fyrestrtr> s/C/ASM/
[12:42] <damg_> imarvind, well, theoretically you could use it, but without hardware accelleration you will have a dia show instead of a flashwork :D
[12:43] <xpil> Afief: it's written in C
[12:43] <xpil> Afief: what u mean "has to be written in ASM" - ?
[12:43] <fyrestrtr> Grant: Konqeruer is a web browser, just like IE or Firefox. So if the *server* is configured for asp, then it will display the pages.
[12:44] <Grant> fyrestrtr, well i had difficulites viewing a ASP/.net pages before where the drop down menu's would not appear this was the same for firefox, and would only display in IE.
[12:44] <IvanDragomilov> is desktopcd=livecd
[12:44] <imarvind> well i do have HW acceleration
[12:44] <Afief> xpil: don't know, but as far as i heard, to write an OS, you have to start the basics through ASM
[12:44] <fyrestrtr> Grant: could be something to do with a serverside control. Firefox and Konqueror don't support ActiveX
[12:44] <imarvind> was just wondering if i needed the particular card
[12:44] <fyrestrtr> Afief: somethings have to be written in ASM, but the majority of the kernel is C code.
[12:45] <Grant> fyrestrtr, and there is no way around this?
[12:45] <damg_> imarvind, there is nothing bad about just testing it ;)
[12:45] <fyrestrtr> Grant: afaik, no.
[12:45] <damg_> it depends on what XGL wants
[12:46] <xpil> Afief: everything is converted to asm, no matter what is the original language.
[12:46] <imarvind> dang , i just wish i could have those cool 'mac like' effects without pluggin in an nvidia
[12:46] <fyrestrtr> imarvind: would be very difficult if you don't have a dedicated graphics card.
[12:46] <imarvind> difficult as in ?
[12:46] <Afief> xpil: thanks a lot, i was having a bet with a fellow student that the kernel is written in C, he said it must be ASM
[12:47] <imarvind> u mean.. the effects wont be as smooth
[12:47] <fyrestrtr> as in your pc would slow to a crawl.
[12:47] <imarvind> hmm
[12:47] <imarvind> well it is a 64 mb on board card
[12:47] <imarvind> and i have a 512 mb ddr ram
[12:47] <imarvind> what do u think
[12:47] <imarvind> will do ?
[12:48] <muchaco> helo, i need help on apache2 when i tried to restart it it says "could not bind to address 443, address already in use"
[12:48] <xpil> Afief: asm is the very basic "layer" of programming. anything you write in c/c++/ada/basic/perl/php/... (the list is VERY long) has to be converted to asm by some software (linker, interpreter, compiler etc...)
[12:48] <IvanDragomilov> hey i'll download ubuntu and install my hdd -----> ubuntu-6.06-alternate-amd64.iso <------- is this right
[12:49] <fyrestrtr> muchaco: is it already running?
[12:49] <Afief> xpil: i know, but ASM gives you more flexibility. so, is the "main" function of the kernel C or ASM? i couldn't find this function anywhere in the source code
[12:49] <damg_> imarvind, well, those XGL fx are not like doom3, so you shouldnt have major performance drops, if the graphics card can handle the effects without asking the CPU to do some parts
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> Afief: ASM doensn't have a 'main()' function, so its in C :)
[12:50] <muchaco> nope coz i can't start it, it is running when i let it listen to port 80
[12:50] <burning_bronx> hey hey hey
[12:50] <afflux> hiho
[12:50] <IvanDragomilov> Friends i need a answer
[12:50] <IvanDragomilov> hey i'll download ubuntu and install my hdd -----> ubuntu-6.06-alternate-amd64.iso <------- is this right
[12:50] <damg_> ill wipe out my /usr ... pray for me, brb
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> muchaco: what happens if you type http://localhost/ in firefox?
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> IvanDragomilov: are you on AMD64?
[12:50] <IvanDragomilov> yess
[12:51] <muchaco> nothing can't connect
[12:51] <burning_bronx> I need some help mates
[12:51] <fyrestrtr> muchaco: how did you install it?
[12:51] <muchaco> but it was okay yesterday
[12:51] <Frogzoo> IvanDragomilov: you're still best off to run 32 bit atm
[12:51] <burning_bronx> someone with an amd64 and a capability of compiling modules here?
[12:51] <fyrestrtr> IvanDragomilov: use the livecd image, then choose to install it from there.
[12:51] <fyrestrtr> muchaco: what did you do since yesterday?
[12:52] <IvanDragomilov> fyrestrtr: is livecd=desktopcd
[12:52] <muchaco> i shutdown my pc, but it hangs on stopping on swap so i push the power off
[12:52] <fyrestrtr> muchaco: how much diskspace and ram do you have?
[12:52] <IvanDragomilov> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso   i'll download this
[12:53] <burning_bronx> IvanDragomilov, I am cursing the world for downloading this
[12:53] <muchaco> got a lot of diskspace i got 120gig 20gig and 40gig i got 512mb ddr2 ram
[12:53] <burning_bronx> and I have a 64bit machine
[12:53] <_Hug[o] _> hey
[12:53] <_Hug[o] _> what does this error mean "Buffer I/O error on device hdb1"?
[12:53] <IvanDragomilov> :)
[12:53] <troy_s> why you cursing burning?
[12:53] <burning_bronx> troy_s, cause I set my nice 32bit os and decided to switch to 64bit Ubuntu
[12:54] <burning_bronx> and then everything stops working
[12:54] <burning_bronx> but the things I fixed in 32bit I can't get to work on 64bit
[12:54] <troy_s> burning:  like what?  proprietary stuffs like java and flash?
[12:54] <burning_bronx> troy_s, propietary stuff like kernel net modules
[12:54] <fyrestrtr> muchaco: when you startup the system, do you see any error messages?
[12:54] <troy_s> burning:  strange.  your network no workie?
[12:55] <muchaco> none
[12:55] <burning_bronx> troy_s, it's not strange - I've been aware of the bug in the forcedeth module for my onboard eth card
[12:55] <muchaco> ah yes, the greeting thingy it says it is crashing
[12:55] <fyrestrtr> _Hug[o] _: means there was an error reading/writing to you hdb1 device. Do you have DMA turned on for it?
[12:55] <burning_bronx> but the new module I have for it is 32bit
[12:55] <troy_s> burning:  forcedeth working great here.
[12:55] <troy_s> burning:  what is the issue?
[12:55] <burning_bronx> and doesn't work now that I have 64bit
[12:55] <troy_s> burning:  i'm dual core adm64
[12:55] <troy_s> amd64 even
[12:56] <troy_s> burning:  my system is terrific.  aside from crap vendor related issues on theminor details.
[12:56] <burning_bronx> troy_s it's a specific problem with nforce 410 drivers
[12:56] <burning_bronx> and it only shows up if you dual-boot afaik
[12:56] <troy_s> burning:  hrm...  well good old closed source nvidia.  drop them a little hatemail.
[12:57] <troy_s> burning:  but forcedeth is pretty mature now
[12:57] <burning_bronx> that won't fix me tho
[12:57] <burning_bronx> troy_s, it is
[12:57] <xice> hi all. how can i set a program to automatically start up on a certain virtual desktop
[12:57] <burning_bronx> and the forcedeth version in 2.6.16+ works perfectly
[12:57] <troy_s> burning:  have you tried the stinky proprietary net driver?
[12:57] <troy_s> burning:  so you need the newer forcedeth then?
[12:57] <nzx> where does d4x store its config file ?
[12:57] <burning_bronx> troy_s how am I supposed to download all that stuff on 'buntu?
[12:58] <burning_bronx> if I don't have net on it?
[12:58] <pianoboy3333> pm me if you see fujitsu
[12:58] <troy_s> burning:  well, you have net on something.  has the newest version fixed your problem with dapper?  if so, you can manually download the dpkg
[12:58] <hest> did anyone se my vlc problem on the forum ?
[12:58] <burning_bronx> troy_s, newest version of what?
[12:58] <hest> in this url http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1093541#post1093541
[12:59] <troy_s> burning:  forcedeth et al
[12:59] <burning_bronx> it fixes it
[12:59] <neoxan> hi all
[12:59] <nico8481> hi
[12:59] <troy_s> burning:  no, the dapper release update...
[12:59] <burning_bronx> I know - I told you I made this system perfectly workin' on x86 ubuntu
[12:59] <troy_s> burning you need > 16 right?
[12:59] <burning_bronx> I need 16 or above
[12:59] <jel> can someone with /dev/snd/midiC0D0 tell me the major/minor number?  Or, how do I create this when using timidity?
[01:00] <neoxan> anyone else got that problem? (i cant use the shortkey print, to print a screenshot, while the menu is open)
[01:00] <nico8481> apokryphos: filed a bug report for the amaroK problem
[01:00] <neoxan> is that a bug?
[01:00] <troy_s> burning:  is the officially released updates that far?
[01:00] <apokryphos> nico8481: cool
[01:00] <troy_s> burning:  with ubuntu, or do you manually need to compile?
[01:00] <burning_bronx> troy_s, in ubuntu there is no 2.6.16
[01:00] <nico8481> apokryphos: yup, no news though...
[01:00] <burning_bronx> that's the whole problem.
[01:01] <troy_s> burning:  ok so your ONLY option is manual compile then, correct?
[01:01] <burning_bronx> 2.6.17 would also work but it's still testing ;)
[01:01] <burning_bronx> yeh
[01:01] <jel> neoxan: probably not so much a bug as an oversight or design limitation.  Use a program that snapshots after a timeout
[01:01] <troy_s> burning:  and you don't have net ax, so you can't achieve this...  can you burn the stuffs to disk and compile there?
[01:02] <troy_s> burning:  or better yet, head down to compucheapbitsparts and buy a 10 dollar nic.
[01:02] <burning_bronx> troy_s, I have a 10 dollar nic
[01:02] <troy_s> burning:  nvidia sucks on so manylevels.
[01:02] <burning_bronx> and it's supposed to have 200% compatibilyt but it doesn't.
[01:02] <troy_s> burning:  what chipset
[01:02] <burning_bronx> told you - the nvidia 410
[01:02] <nico8481> burning_bronx: buy a $15 one :)
[01:02] <troy_s> burning:  no the add on nic
[01:02] <burning_bronx> nico8481 you buy me one - I came here for support not for merchandise
[01:03] <nico8481> hehe
[01:03] <burning_bronx> troy_s, it's a realtek 8139
[01:03] <troy_s> burning:  nvidia's stuff is NOT 100% compatible.  you can usually get them up.
[01:03] <troy_s> burning:  ahh...
[01:03] <troy_s> burning:  and the realtek has that bug issue i bet.
[01:03] <jel> troy_s: when you're typing names, you can complete them with tab in most programs.  (So, burning + tab == burning_bronx:).  Just, when you enter the full name, it highlights the message for the recipient
[01:04] <troy_s> burning_bronx: the name collisions
[01:04] <troy_s> jel:  danke
[01:04] <jel> welcome :)
[01:04] <burning_bronx> troy_s, nVidia's onboard card has the forcedeth issue, the realtek card is on PCI and has some other issue that makes me cry
[01:04] <troy_s> burning_bronx: hang in there.  the change is worth it.
[01:04] <burning_bronx> however got them both working while I was running 32 bit buntu
[01:04] <troy_s> burning_bronx: i was working on getting someone help with the realtek.
[01:05] <troy_s> burning_bronx: the solution for the realtek is to download the newer package and dpkg-add it.
[01:05] <burning_bronx> newer package of what
[01:05] <burning_bronx> ?
[01:05] <Juhaz> neoxan, jel, yes, it's a design decision. gtk deliberately grabs the keyboard when it draws a menu
[01:05] <troy_s> burning_bronx: let me look
[01:05] <_Hug[o] _> fyrestrtr, This is a hardisk, how can I check out?
[01:06] <damg> thanks for praying, symlink to /usr works ^^
[01:06] <eamon> HI, DVD issue, jumpy image, need to give it more resources, how?
[01:06] <_Hug[o] _> fyrestrtr, are you there?
[01:07] <troy_s> burning_bronx: udev
[01:07] <flo-_> hy all. i need some help , iesterday all workt fine with the internet conection but today when i go in sitem settings and tri to change somethin with the network config. i get ip adress gateway nn valid or something like that, mi conection is up and running becouse now im ussing a live knoopix, on hd there is a dapper, please help and excuse my english
[01:08] <troy_s> burning_bronx: Bug is in udev package, 079-0ubuntu8 is OK But 079-0ubuntu9 and 079-0ubuntu10 add bug in eth
[01:08] <burning_bronx> so the latest stuff in dapper is buggy?
[01:08] <burning_bronx> and the package on the CD is buggy?
[01:09] <troy_s> burning_bronx: clear /etc/iftab and et0 is ok using udev_079-0ubuntu11
[01:09] <troy_s> burning_bronx: those are cut pastes... so download the 11 version of udev
[01:09] <papapep> flo-_: You should take a look at your /etc/network/interfaces file, to see what you have in it
[01:09] <CrippsFX> is anyone else here running azureus, and getting the "NAT Errors" thing?
[01:09] <troy_s> burning_bronx: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128276&page=2
[01:09] <troy_s> burning_bronx: now i must return to bed.
[01:10] <troy_s> burning_bronx: the very latest fixes the issue in dapper.  there was a bug added in udev9 udev10
[01:10] <cherwin> CrippsFX: no because we enabled port mapping on our routers :^)
[01:10] <CrippsFX> cherwin, port mapping. okay. which port has to be mapped?
[01:11] <flo-_> papapep: what should y look for?
[01:11] <papapep> for the default gateway
[01:11] <cherwin> CripssFX: that's up to you to decide, i advise you to set it up at a high numbered port, because isp's sometimes cap p2p traffic on known ports
[01:12] <burning_bronx> troy_s, up untill yesterday I had the latest issues of everything when did that package appear?
[01:12] <cherwin> CrippsFX: check this out http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/NAT_problem
[01:13] <_Hug[o] _> Can anyone help me with this error "Buffer I/O error on device hdb1, logical block ...." ?
[01:13] <CrippsFX> cherwin, yeah, I'm there now.
[01:14] <linux_noob> I am not able to download ubuntu. Can anybody send me a link? It must be for Dapper.
[01:14] <Frogzoo> !tell linux_noob about torrent
[01:14] <detectiveinspekt> where do links to programs go? In gentoo it was /usr/bin
[01:16] <Noir_> Anyone can help me in some wireless connection probs?
[01:16] <ic56> detectiveinspekt: /usr/bin is standard place for programs in Ubuntu too, though I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "links to programs".
[01:16] <cherwin> CrippsFX: azureus has a port set up, you can check which port that is in your settings. when you see the port number write it down or something, then go to your router to the menu virtual servers, mapping or something like that. when you're there map a outside port to your inside port e.g. 212.2.2.1:9999 --> 192.168.0.2:2345
[01:17] <detectiveinspekt> shortcuts
[01:17] <imarvind> there are no such things as shortcuts
[01:17] <imarvind> all system commands are in usr bin
[01:17] <stephan__> can someone give me the faqs on nvidia and dapper
[01:17] <detectiveinspekt> I have a program in  /usr/local/something
[01:17] <zcat[1] _> !nvidia
[01:17] <ubotu> well, nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:18] <vooharmy> hello anyone know why ndiswrapper wont work in drapper
[01:18] <imarvind> what do u want to execute
[01:18] <Hobbsee> vooharmy: define "wont work"
[01:18] <detectiveinspekt> so I normally just make a script #!bin/bash /usr/local/something
[01:18] <zcat[1] _> detectiveinspekt: 'which foo' will tell you where foo is located
[01:18] <imarvind> u just need to type out the full path in the terminal for it to run
[01:18] <tijn> hi all
[01:18] <ic56> detectiveinspekt: I think by shortcuts you mean "abbreviations".  /usr/bin is a good place.  But there are other ways to achieve the same thing.
[01:18] <Noir_> Anyone else having problems with Intel Wireless pro 2200b/g wireless card?
[01:18] <vooharmy> Well under breezy works nder drapper wnt work
[01:19] <Noir_> I have breezy and i can't connect
[01:19] <imarvind> change ur script to reflect the location of ur program
[01:19] <papapep> Noir_: Mine is working perfectly....
[01:19] <Hobbsee> vooharmy: any particular reason why it wont work - like any errors?  or just "it wont work"
[01:19] <jel> does anyone have /dev/snd/midiC0D0 ?
[01:19] <cherwin> imarvind: on the contrary, there are sometimes shortcuts (actually soft-links) in /usr/bin do a 'ls -l' to see it for yourself
[01:19] <imarvind> which <name> will return the location of the file
[01:20] <jel> if so, can you tell me what ls -l /dev/snd/midiC0D0 says?
[01:20] <imarvind> yes cherwin...but i dont think thats what  detect was talking aboyt
[01:20] <vooharmy> hobbsee: Under breezy my card wasnt even recognised at all
[01:20] <vooharmy> hobbsee: but ndiswrapper worked perfectly
[01:21] <Hobbsee> vooharmy: which card?  and what happens now?  card is recognised, but it wont connect?
[01:21] <vooharmy> hobbsee yes its a broadcome bcmwl5
[01:21] <vooharmy> hobbsee recognised but wont connect
[01:21] <Hobbsee> vooharmy: ah, arent there native drivers for that?
[01:21] <imarvind> detectinspeckt: do a ln <file1> <file 2> to create a hard link bw two files
[01:21] <vooharmy> hobbsee: really?
[01:21] <imarvind> its thats indeed what u want to do
[01:22] <Hobbsee> vooharmy: maybe, i thought so, check on ubuntuforums.org
[01:22] <Hobbsee> in the howto section
[01:22] <imarvind> confirm that its effective by ls -i to compare the inode no of both files.. they should be same
[01:22] <vooharmy> hobbsee ok ill go look thx for the tip
[01:22] <zcat[1] _> btw; if you drag-and-drop home from the places menu onto your desktop, you get an icon that looks like home and opens the home folder, but if you drag other stuff onto the icon rather than the opened window it doesn't behave like any other desktop folder. Counterintuative. Someone should fix that :(
[01:23] <tijn> erhm
[01:23] <eamon> DVD jumpy image, howto give more resources?
[01:23] <tijn> how can i find out a device name?
[01:23] <vooharmy> hobbsee yep good tip thx
[01:24] <tijn> ive got a wireless usb stick, installed the driver, but i dont know the device name
[01:24] <xmadmin> how do i upgrade my OS from bb to dd?
[01:24] <cherwin> imarvind: yes i know that too, but isn't it better to explain something to someone so that he (or she) knows what you mean. if you say there or no such things as shorcuts, with no further explanation what so ever, he will take that for the truth, and that clouds there experience with linux etc
[01:24] <ic56> !tell xmadmin about upgrade
[01:25] <pookey> hey all. I'm trying to install ubuntu onto an LVM setup, however the installer doesn't appear to support LVM - am I missing something?
[01:25] <detectiveinspekt> thanks imarvind, that would work better
[01:25] <steveire> The command 'grep -R 'hello' *.*' doesn't work. If someone can see what I'm trying to do, cn you tell me how to fix the command?
[01:25] <kasim> hi, my dapper (alternate) CD installs fails badly not able to detect my IDE-disk on my new Asus K8N4-E board. any hints?
[01:25] <zcat[1] _> ummm.. ln -s makes shortcuts doesn't it? It even shows the little shortcut icon very much like windows handles them...
[01:25] <pookey> steveire: just put '*'
[01:26] <imarvind> well actually speaking.. a link isnt exactly a shortcut.. so
[01:26] <steveire> cool cheers
[01:26] <cherwin> pooley: at startup you can define which kernel you want to use (at least with debian) try to choose one with support for LVM and if i'm correct, you'll see an option with LVM
[01:26] <imarvind> didnt want to get into the nitty gritties of ufs there
[01:27] <zcat[1] _> right-click, make link.. behaves 110% like a windows 'shortcut' ..
[01:27] <imarvind> yup
[01:27] <imarvind> ln -s makes a link too
[01:27] <pookey> cherwin: ah.. it's the detaulf kernel that doesn't support LVM on the install disk? how strange, LVM is hardly rare these days.  having googled it looks like I might have to use the alternative install CD...
[01:27] <imarvind> but thats a symbolic link
[01:27] <imarvind> not a hard link
[01:27] <imarvind> ln -s can be used to link folders
[01:27] <thermal> Hello. Just upgraded to dapper.  Can't get apt-get to connect, but firefox can pick up the files without a problem.  Tried to turn of IPv6, but no luck. Any clues?
[01:27] <ic56> zcat[1] _: ln -s makes (s)ymbolic links.  WindowsNT's implementation of "shortcuts" is somewhat similar to symbolic links and people coming from windows justifiably think of them this way.  However, note that in a Windows shortcut, you have a preferences tab in which you can configure things like start directory and command line options.  No such thing with symbolic links -- for that, you use scripts in Linux.
[01:28] <zcat[1] _> Yes, 100% like a shortcut.. you can do things like mail it and the recipient will get the actual file rather than a useless .lnk (yes, I have seen this many times)
[01:28] <webmind> can anyone tell me where the hotplug dir is for the firmware of my wifi usb stick ?
[01:28] <cherwin> imarvind: but windows users have a better time understanding what a link is if you compare it to shortcuts
[01:28] <zcat[1] _> so it's even better than a windows shortcut.. it does everything a windows shortcut does plus more :)
[01:29] <imarvind> i guess cherwin
[01:29] <imarvind> my bad for being too technical there :)
[01:29] <samuli> thermal, the obvious question: are your repositories good? Other thing might be that you should have proxy enabled.
[01:29] <DataCore> Hi
[01:29] <DataCore> all
[01:29] <sve> Hello people
[01:30] <DataCore> sup
[01:30] <sve> I havent done this in ages - chattig on mirc - I'm playing around with the Ubuntu internet applications
[01:30] <pookey> can someone tell me what the 'alternative' install CD is for?
[01:30] <thermal> Thanks smuli. Direct connection.  Can ping and manually download from repos.  Driving me nuts!
[01:30] <nickolay> hello, trying out dapper from a live cd. It recognized my ntfs partitions correctly, but mounted them under /tmp, accessible to root only. Is it how it is supposed to work?
[01:30] <ompaul> !winfstab
[01:30] <ubotu> in fstab it should look **like** this:: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0
[01:31] <imarvind> make a mountpoint where u want to mount the ntfs slices
[01:31] <samuli> thermal, that's really odd then.. what does sudo apt-get update say?
[01:31] <zcat[1] _> pookey: machines than can't run the GUI installer (due to lack of memory, requirement of special modules, whatever)
[01:31] <imarvind> then use the mount command to mount them
[01:31] <ompaul> nickolay, that is how it is readable by the worlds you can't write to it though
[01:31] <sve> @pookey - for updating from previous versions
[01:31] <imarvind> edit /etc/fstab to automount on boot
[01:31] <ic56> nickolay: no, /tmp is not a good place for ntfs partitions.  There is a script to fix that. you want?
[01:31] <pookey> zcat[1] _: ahh, I just found if I look at an http mirror ratehr then ftp, it shows reasons, thanks
[01:31] <cherwin> pookey: beats me.. i'm not an ubuntu user, just looking at the experiences that people have
[01:31] <gambi> is it possible to install dapper out of knoppix? maybe with just some changes in the sourcelist?
[01:31] <pookey> cherwin: I'm a gentoo users ;)
[01:32] <nickolay> ompaul: I can't navigate to it using GUI though, so it is a suboptimal default choice
[01:32] <kallei> im trying to  su -s -H  but i get "No shell"  ??? how do i solve that?
[01:32] <nickolay> I know how to configure this
[01:32] <nickolay> was just wondering if it worked how it was supposed to work
[01:32] <cherwin> pookey: running slackware 2.6.16.20
[01:32] <ic56> nickolay: just run this script: http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt
[01:32] <imarvind> what exactly do u require nickolay
[01:32] <zcat[1] _> I think you can still make the liveCD do some textmode stuff anyhow.. not sure if it can still do a full textmode install though.
[01:32] <imarvind> the answer depends on that
[01:33] <NoMP3> I have installed Ubuntu 6.06.  I am trying to play mp3s in Rhythmbox.  I installed gstreamer0.8-misc on a whim, because I do not know what to do.... other than what 9,000 command line people say on Google.  So, what's the answer?  How does this work?
[01:33] <ic56> nickolay: it will move your NTFS mount points to /media
[01:33] <DataCore> Hi, I'm trying to connect to a wireless network and having difficulty connecting to a WPA-PSK as it only lets me have the option of 'WEP', anyone?
[01:33] <ompaul> nickolay, if your not happy with it, not having _any_ ntfs in any of the 5 machines in the house I don't have a problem with it ;-
[01:33] <cherwin> DataCore: try wpa_supplicant
[01:33] <zcat[1] _> !mp3
[01:33] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:33] <nickolay> imarvind: does it work correctly (in that you can navigate the partitions using nautilus) for anybody
[01:33] <samuli> NoMP3: dapper uses gstreamer-0.10
[01:34] <DataCore> cherwin, thanks, will try that
[01:34] <NoMP3> samuli: so I should uninstall 0.8?
[01:34] <samuli> !tell NoMP3 about restricted formats
[01:34] <thermal> samuli, it comes with a list of connection errors and some "Ign".
[01:34] <ompaul> nickolay, with it :-) [woops enter was not the intention]  so I suggest that you want it to offer to mount them readable straight off the bat request it in launchpad
[01:34] <samuli> thermal :(
[01:34] <steveire> If I select to install server at install time, will I get a very minimal installation of ubuntu?
[01:34] <tijn> ive got a wireless usb stick, installed the driver, but i dont know the device name, how do i find out?
[01:34] <imarvind> mount /dev/hda<x> /<mountpoint> ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[01:34] <NoMP3> samuli:  i see 10 fluendo.  is that the same thing?
[01:35] <brokenthorn> j #ck
[01:35] <cherwin> tijn: try iwconfig
[01:35] <samuli> NoMP3: what.. fluendo?
[01:35] <kandinski> sound doesn't work on my ubuntu-dapper and I don't even know how to diagnose it
[01:35] <cherwin> tijn: then you'll see what interfaces are wireless
[01:35] <nickolay> ompaul: since I'm not involved with ubuntu deeply, I wanted to know how this is supposed to work first :)
[01:35] <tijn> none
[01:35] <brokenthorn> Does ubuntu use usplash?
[01:35] <NoMP3> samuli:  I am reading the wiki
[01:35] <cherwin> tijn, you can also take a look at dmesg
[01:35] <wotdu> hi
[01:35] <tijn> cherwin did that
[01:35] <thermal> samuli - That's my feeling too.  I've rebooted into 5.10, using FC5 at work.  Hoping to get it fixed.
[01:35] <kandinski> can anyone help me diagnose my sound little by little?
[01:35] <NoMP3> samuli: gstreamer10... mine sayd gstreamer10 fluendo
[01:35] <tijn> but only saw it was using address 19
[01:35] <nickolay> and another question, are ati radeon X1xxx cards supported by ubuntu?
[01:35] <NoMP3> samuli: I dont know what fluendo is either =] 
[01:35] <tijn> no device name
[01:35] <samuli> thermal, have you tried aptitude?
[01:36] <tijn> cherwin: sit0 aint a device right?
[01:36] <nickolay> the whatever package I was told to install said it was for X800 and below
[01:36] <ompaul> nickolay it appears to be, and as is now obvious ;-) I don't have ntfs ... if you care to wait a moment I will get a url of how it should be done, if your not happy with that - then go for launchpad
[01:36] <NoMP3> samuli:  thank youi!  fluendo works!
[01:36] <thermal> That's a good idea samuli.  Thanks.  I'll reboot, and I'll be back.
[01:36] <Pasteurized> Where can I find XGL/Compiz help channel ?
[01:36] <NoMP3> thank you to everyone!
[01:36] <ic56> nickolay: just run this script: http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt
[01:36] <cherwin> tijn: unload the module, then load it again, you'll will see someting in your dmesg, if that's not the case then something is wrong
[01:37] <wotdu> im using win xp 64bit version of mrv8k driver for my wireless card (asus WL-138G) with ndiswrapper, but i get lots of errors like this: "[ 1044.257527]  mrv8k: Received a ieee802.11 MGMT Frame, subtype invalid type 15, duration=0000
[01:37] <wotdu> [ 1044.257530]  mrv8k: You have received an error: Rx Stuck! Reset RX and BBU"
[01:37] <cherwin> tijn: sit0 is your serial interface if i'm not correct
[01:37] <nickolay> Ic56: again, I know how to configure this manually, and ubuntu almost did the job. I care about usability for people migrating from windows though
[01:37] <nickolay> ompaul: that would be great, thanks
[01:38] <tijn> cherwin: a yes thought it was something like that :)     usbcore: registered new driver zd1211
[01:38] <DataCore> Ok, is there anything easier then WPAsuppliment ? :P
[01:38] <wotdu> if someone could help me :)
[01:38] <ic56> nickolay: oh, ok.   The consensus seems to be that /media is the better place because people coming from windows expect to find their windows filesystems there -- from Places> Computer
[01:38] <brokenthorn> There is a fbsplash and a bootsplash -beyond patchset. Which do I use for Ubuntu Dapper Drake? I think it's bootsplash...
[01:38] <tijn> but i dont see a device name...
[01:38] <tijn> wierd
[01:39] <Hattori> !fglrx
[01:39] <ubotu> hmm... ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[01:39] <ompaul> nickolay, read this, - as for the gnomishness I to think it should handle this sweeter  http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/en_GB/partitions-booting.html
[01:39] <ic56> nickolay: the official directions in the Ubuntu user guide instruct the user to place their FSs in /media
[01:39] <DataCore> Like an addon for the Tool in 'System->Administration->Networking'
[01:39] <nickolay> ic56: what surprised me was that the partitions were auto-mounted, but only for the root user. Makes no sense to me
[01:40] <ic56> nickolay: how do you mean "for the root user"?  a mount option of "uid=0"?
[01:41] <cherwin> DataCore: wpa_supplicant isn't that hard. just read the readme and the install file (of course go through the man page as well). you have to force yourself to read those files on a regular basis in linux or else you'll wind up at irc channels for every small thing
[01:41] <samuli> I had my windows partitions mounted for read-access ntfs and +rw for fat32. Dapper even displayed nice shortcuts on the desktop
[01:41] <ompaul> nickolay, it is the function of the prime user to allow others new hardware playgrounds - little johnny aged 3.4 with gcompris should maybe not be able to navigate to the windows partition, after all you really don't want to expose a kid the the horrors of NTFS ;-)
[01:41] <nickolay> ic56: no it doesn't have that option, but normal user can't access the mounted partitions
[01:41] <zcat[1] _> bt default they get mounted owned and only readable by root and
[01:42] <kallei> how do i compile my kernel with ntfs support?
[01:42] <xice> question: how can i create a file named <the actual date> ??
[01:42] <nickolay> ompaul: :)
[01:42] <zcat[1] _> mount /dev/foo /media/foo -o mask=000  I think is the required magic..
[01:42] <ompaul> kallei, you don't, it fails to work on Ubuntu and it is called watch ubotus next words
[01:42] <ompaul> !captive
[01:42] <ubotu> captive is, like, a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[01:42] <steveire> If I select to install server at install time, will I get a very minimal installation of ubuntu?
[01:42] <nickolay> ompaul:  consider a windows person trying out ubunntu live cd. He's expecting it to make the windows data available to him easily
[01:42] <fyrestrtr> yes
[01:42] <wotdu> i'm using mrv8k drivers for win xp 64bit with ndiswrapper but i get these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15520 , could anyone help me with this please?
[01:43] <ic56> nickolay: sounds like the umask isn't set.  If you know how to fix it, then just do so.  If you don't run the script.  And perhaps we should consider this a bug in the installer?
[01:43] <papapep> steveire: Yes
[01:43] <ompaul> nickolay, so the place to chant your wishes is launchpad.net
[01:43] <samuli> steveire, yes, You only get the basic system without desktop-environment
[01:43] <tijn> isnt there any tool to find out a device name?
[01:43] <steveire> and will it be a LAMP set up already? What else will it have?
[01:43] <nickolay> ic56: ok
[01:44] <kallei> ompaul:  what?  i got the mounting to work on the 2.6.15-amd64-generic  kernel but  not on my own compiled one, then i get the error :  mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/western1 busy   what should i do about this?
[01:44] <nickolay> anybody knows the answer to my question about ATI radeon x1XXX?
[01:44] <zcat[1] _> I thought the live CD put things like 'hda1' on the desktop for windows filesystems...
[01:44] <wotdu> could anyone please answer me ? : /
[01:44] <cherwin> nickolay, what was your question?
[01:44] <ompaul> kallei, cd /media/western1 and have a look
[01:44] <zcat[1] _> kallei: df will tell you if it's already mounted
[01:44] <kallei> its not mounted ...
[01:44] <steveire> I'm planning to do that and then install some small DE. I only want to use the installation as a test server. So I'll install some small DE and firefox or something...?
[01:44] <kallei> and the dir is empty
[01:45] <velusip> :# edquota; "edquota: Can't exec"
[01:45] <nickolay> cherwin:  does the driver in xorg-driver-fglrx package support those
[01:45] <samuli> steveire, sounds like a plan.
[01:45] <kallei> as i said, its working with the distro kernel, but not my custom compiled,  maybe i missed some module or something?
[01:45] <ompaul> wotdu, if your using ndiswrapper you may need to consider 32bit drivers - keep that in mind
[01:45] <nickolay> cherwin:  its description doesn't say it does
[01:45] <tijn> cherwin: maybe i need additional tools, like linux-wlan-ng? does that make sense? :)
[01:45] <zcat[1] _> someone's cd'd into the mountpoint thus making it 'busy' perhaps?
[01:45] <samuli> steveire, you might like to try sudo apt-get install xfce4-core for example.
[01:45] <mitja> Does --prefix=path work with autogen.sh?
[01:45] <steveire> Cool, well I already have a boot partition yoo
[01:45] <wotdu> ompaul, i've tried them but they seem not to work also
[01:46] <wotdu> i'm on amd64 btw
[01:46] <steveire> too*, so can I use the existing kernal, or will it try to install a second one?
[01:46] <cherwin> nickolay: just try it out and see for yourself, if it doesn't work then you'll just have to revert to xorg.conf.bak
[01:47] <cherwin> tijn: the only tools you need is the driver correctly installed and wireless-tools
[01:47] <cherwin> if you have iwconfig then you'll have all the basic wireless-tools at your disposal
[01:47] <ompaul> wotdu, that would be a chroot to take it to 32bit
[01:47] <ompaul> !chroot
[01:47] <ubotu> hmm... chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:48] <cherwin> tijn: what is the output of lsusb
[01:48] <tijn> cherwin: well, lsusb shows all the correct detail of the device
[01:48] <tijn> but no device name
[01:49] <tijn> cherwin: Bus 004 Device 020: ID 0df6:9712 Sitecom Europe B.V.
[01:49] <wotdu> ompaul, i'm having a huge trouble having to switch back and forth from linux to windows because i can't download anything there
[01:49] <cherwin> could you pastebin your lsmod please?
[01:49] <ompaul> wotdu, no ethernet you could use in the short term?
[01:49] <tijn> cherwin: ok mom
[01:49] <Appen> How do you install programs
[01:50] <gharz> guys, how can i make my icons on the desktop smaller than the default size? the default size is too big for me. i know i can do it manually, but is there another way so that everytime there's a new file the icon is smaller?
[01:50] <wotdu> ompaul, wish i could but i don't have any wires here, i'm using a router which is on another room
[01:50] <cherwin> tijn: and the string that pops up in your dmesg when you load the module sweetheart :^)
[01:50] <zcat[1] _> Appen: on the main menu, Add/remove programs.
[01:50] <kallei> anyone know where in xconfig i find EVMS ?
[01:50] <velusip> I have a problem with quota. I'm reasonably experienced using quota, but I'm new to ubuntu. Perhaps this is a known bug. Could anyone msg me willing to discuss this?
[01:51] <tijn> cherwin: pastebin.com gives me an sql error :S
[01:51] <Appen> Will Ubuntu work on an AMD Sempron Laptop?
[01:52] <karim> hi
[01:52] <cherwin> tijn: you can't be serious?
[01:52] <karim> is there a way to set default volumes for OSS sound devices ?
[01:52] <tijn> yes i am :)
[01:52] <zcat[1] _> work, yes. You may have problems with onboard wireless and stuff though...
[01:52] <ompaul> wotdu well wired means easier access to set it up, it is really a crime against the user that the wireless companies seem to think that they have some business advantage in dealing badly with their customers,  packages.ubuntu.com and a large usb stick might be useful
[01:52] <braed_> Appen: why wouldnt it?
[01:52] <Jaymac> xgl is being a bastard to me
[01:52] <tijn> ill try pastebin.de moment plz :D
[01:52] <PlHL> My USB sticks does not work (including usb mouse) when I plug them in. Does anybody know where I can read about that issue? (it's not easy to search the forum on "usb" ;) )
[01:52] <karim> Appen, why wouldn't it work ?
[01:52] <cherwin> tijn: yes you're serious.. too bad
[01:52] <tijn> cherwin: http://pastebin.de/7433
[01:52] <ompaul> Jaymac, take it easy with the language, we like a G rated channel ;-)
[01:52] <tijn> pastebin.de works (debian btw)
[01:53] <Jaymac> ehhehe
[01:53] <karim> is there a way to set default volumes for OSS sound devices ?
[01:53] <zcat[1] _> xgl isn't the easiest thing to get working...
[01:53] <Jaymac> it's being a great annoyance
[01:53] <Appen> when I tryed Simply Mipis Evrything was too fast
[01:53] <wotdu> ompaul, don't need usb stick :) i can just download it to a fat32 partition and mount it there : )
[01:53] <Jaymac> luckily i have an ubuntu testbox
[01:53] <Jaymac> so haven't broken anything on my main system :)
[01:53] <zcat[1] _> Jaymac: what chipset?
[01:54] <tijn> cherwin: you btw from holland? :)
[01:54] <Jaymac> nforce2
[01:54] <Jaymac> w/ a 9600XT
[01:54] <Jaymac> using fglrx
[01:55] <zcat[1] _> I've only limited experience.. one nvidia card. Not sure what differences there are getting it going on ATI
[01:55] <Appen> Would it de best to use a fat 32 partion for a duel boot?
[01:55] <Mikelo> anybody here make music with ubuntu?
[01:55] <cherwin> tijn: yes sir :)
[01:56] <tijn> me too :)
[01:56] <cherwin> tijn: try 'ifconfig ra0 up'
[01:56] <tijn> hehe shouldnt you be watching the soccer? :)
[01:56] <ompaul> Jaymac, read the messages from ubotu n me
[01:56] <tijn> cherwin: ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: Onbekend apparaat
[01:57] <zcat[1] _> Appen: Set up a shared fat32 perhaps.. windows runs best on ntfs and Linux really needs ext3 or reister for it's rootfs...
[01:57] <cherwin> yeah in a minute ;)
[01:57] <Jaymac> ompaul, i've been using this channel for over a year, and have no idea who you are :)
[01:57] <karim> i have a problem with dapper, this happens on power pc and i386. when I dist-upgrade, packages are upgraded and installed WITHOUT ERRORS, but then they are still available for upgrades
[01:57] <Jaymac> since 4.10 actually
[01:57] <ompaul> Jaymac, enjoy that then ;-)
[01:57] <cherwin> tijn: youere dutch too i see ;)
[01:57] <Hobbsee> Jaymac: he's a scary person.
[01:57] <tijn> hehe
[01:57] <cherwin> anyway try installing the driver with ndiswrapper
[01:57] <Jaymac> Hobbsee: hehe, I fear no man :)
[01:57] <ompaul> Hobbsee, your not supposed to tell anyone :P
[01:57] <cherwin> and then use ra0
[01:58] <tijn> mmhkay
[01:58] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:58] <tijn> will try that
[01:58] <cherwin> tijn: ik moet zo nog een computer klusje doen bij iemand ;)
[01:58] <ompaul> !nl
[01:58] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[01:58] <tijn> hehe
[01:58] <tijn> cherwin: suc6 :) thnx for your help
[01:59] <CrazyDoode_> cherwin: what type of lappy?
[01:59] <regix> Hello? Can anyone point me to a list of proggies that comes with Ubuntu?
[01:59] <Appen> How do I get shop DVDs to work?
[01:59] <cherwin> tijn: you're welcome
[01:59] <pianoboy3333> Fujitsu
[01:59] <ompaul> regix, packages.ubuntu.com
[01:59] <regix> Thanks!
[01:59] <cherwin> CrazyDoode_: asus a6va
[01:59] <thermal> Anyone getting "Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com....." etc.? Still cant' get apt-get install (or any front ends) to work. TIA.
[02:00] <CrazyDoode_> cherwin: on my dell1300 i got it to install the broadcom driver, but it just sits there and does nothing
[02:00] <ompaul> thermal, same box as you are irccing from?
[02:00] <burning_bronx> troy_s, so which udev you said I need  for my realtek?
[02:00] <thermal> ompaul, nope, I'm logged in to both.  X is a wonderful thing!
[02:01] <ompaul> thermal, so can it get to the interweb at all?
[02:01] <cherwin> CrazyDoode_: what kind of broadcom nic do you own?
[02:01] <zcat[1] _> !dvd
[02:01] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:01] <Hattori> !xgl
[02:01] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:01] <thermal> ompaul - Yes.  I can ping, http, just can't install the IRC client : (
[02:02] <snoops> man it's surprizing how nice transparency is
[02:02] <ompaul> CrazyDoode_,  http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[02:02] <CrazyDoode_> cherwin: hang on while i boot my lappy
[02:02] <zcat[1] _> snoops: really? I find if I make a window transparent I can't read wither layer at all :)
[02:02] <eamo> DVD works but with jumpy image - howto increase priority
[02:02] <zcat[1] _> *either
[02:02] <ompaul> !dma
[02:03] <thermal> eamo, might be a dumb answer, but have you tried nice? (look up man).
[02:03] <ompaul> eamo,  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA << the bot did not want to tell the channel - factoid too long - must edit it
[02:03] <eamo> thanks thermal
[02:03] <zcat[1] _> !+dma
[02:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[02:04] <ompaul> zcat[1] , if they get so long as to want a + we should really lop off a piece its a factoid and the info should be on the page ;-)
[02:04] <snoops> zcat[1]  yeah.. I guess it's all about having the right amount of black on white windows and white on black
[02:04] <eamo> thanks ompaul
[02:05] <regix> hey, all. What type of installer sjould I choose?
[02:05] <snoops> I've got it so when a window changes, it wobbles
[02:05] <snoops> and that looks really apparent with some transparency
[02:05] <detectiveinspekt> totem is pretty useless, can't play mp3s can't play divx
[02:05] <snoops> it makes the whole application selector bar redundant
[02:05] <zcat[1] _> A little transparency is nice when you have a window underneath and you want to see if it's still running ... I've done updates behind xchat a few times..
[02:05] <ompaul> zcat[1] , our new version ;-)
[02:06] <regix> Transparency? Really?
[02:06] <ompaul> l8r ya all
[02:06] <Arafangion> How do I clear a rewritable CD?
[02:06] <zcat[1] _> btw; anyone know how I can set more transparency on the titlebars? I can't find it anywhere :(
[02:07] <regix> Anyone tell me what installer I should use? I want an webserver, with all of the games and proggies and such...
[02:07] <zdoor> Does anybody know how to get the control panel for ATI Radeon 9600 XT dual head video cards working? I have tried everything the Wiki and internet help have to offer.
[02:07] <regix> That'll come with the desktop installer
[02:07] <regix> Anyone?
[02:07] <CrazyDoode_> ompaul: thanks for that url, but it doesn't really say what it is, just "firmware"
[02:07] <Frogzoo> zdoor: fireglcontrol
[02:08] <cherwin> CrazyDood_: it seems that your laptop doesn't boot very fast :). i really have to go now, got some appointments
[02:08] <snoops> hmm it's not in gset-compiz zcat[1] ?
[02:08] <Frogzoo> zdoor: it's in pkg fglrx-control
[02:08] <CrazyDoode_> lol had to get coffee too!
[02:08] <zcat[1] _> regix: games and proggies and stuff would be a regular ubuntu install, webserver would be apache+php4+mysql
[02:09] <zcat[1] _> snoops: nope.. nor in gconf-editor anywhere..
[02:09] <Chief_Boogaloo> how do i change the resolution of the splash screen ?
[02:09] <wezzer> Hello, urgent help needed. My friend installed ubuntu to s-ata harddisk, is it /dev/hda something?
[02:09] <CrazyDoode_> cherwin: BCM4401
[02:09] <zcat[1] _> not that I can find anyhow..
[02:09] <regix> Thanks, zcat!
[02:09] <zcat[1] _> window-decoration is only the shadow, not the titlebar
[02:09] <casanova> guys, what is the name of wine in the repository?
[02:10] <Xappe> wezzer: probably /dev/sda
[02:10] <zcat[1] _> !wine
[02:10] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[02:10] <Frogzoo> casanova: would you believe..... wine ?
[02:10] <cherwin> CrazyDoode_: hey i know that one :) last time i compiled a kernel for a laptop with that driver the driver was experimental
[02:10] <Arafangion> Found a nasty bug in Ubuntu
[02:10] <Arafangion> Well, not that bad, actually.
[02:10] <wezzer> Xappe: thanks
[02:10] <casanova> only Wine-Doc
[02:10] <zcat[1] _> not sure wine is in the repo. You probably want the latest version anyway which isn't.
[02:11] <CrazyDoode_> cherwin: I had the same prob too, but the following week in February they upgraded Ndiswrapper to get the driver to load
[02:11] <Arafangion> But when one deletes files from a CD, for EVERY SINGLE DAMN FILE it prompts you a dialog saying that it cannot be deleted because it is on a read-only disk
[02:11] <karim> I have a problem, when I dist-upgrade packages they install fine without errors, but then when I run again dist-upgrade apt wants to installs them again
[02:11] <cherwin> CrazyDoode_: you have to enable prompt for  development and/or incomple code/drivers
[02:11] <cherwin> it does work though
[02:11] <Chief_Boogaloo> how can i change the resolution of the log-in splash screen ?
[02:11] <pema-lotus> is there anywhere i can download 5.10, I'm having a really hard time with xorg with my 1280x786 on 6.6 LTS, 5.10 worked np
[02:11] <regix> zcat, which installer do I exactly use? Theres 2: Desktop and Server
[02:11] <zcat[1] _> Arafangion: you tried right-click on the CD icon and see if erasing the disk is on the menu?
[02:12] <karim> Chief_Boogaloo, vga=792
[02:12] <cherwin> CrazyDoode_: just compile the driver and load the module (if you didn't built it in the kernel) and do an ifconfig -a
[02:12] <zcat[1] _> regix: desktop .. then apt-get install apache and anything else you want.
[02:12] <regix> Thanks, alot!
[02:12] <cherwin> CrazyDoode_: then you'll see which interface the card is and the do a ifconfig ethX up etc
[02:13] <cherwin> for more information read the manual page of ifconfig
[02:13] <cherwin> i have to go now
[02:13] <zcat[1] _> assuming I understood the question.. you want a desktop system (games and programs) plus a webserver?
[02:13] <Arafangion> zcat[1] , Yup, and it's not there.  I think I'm using the older version of Ubuntu, not Dapper.
[02:13] <cherwin> bye everyone!
[02:13] <Frogzoo> casanova: see here: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb - the repo you want, for latest, is" "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main"
[02:13] <CrazyDoode_> cherwin: yes, it's there on eth1 but when I bring it up it has errors
[02:14] <brokenthorn> Who uses the -beyond patchset?
[02:14] <zcat[1] _> I did try to write to one once though.. they seem to only write at 4x and take forever!!
[02:14] <Arafangion> zcat[1] , They cost only a few dollars each.
[02:15] <casanova> Frogzoo, i can't add repositories on Breezy
[02:15] <zcat[1] _> Yeah, I'm cheap :)
[02:16] <Frogzoo> casanova: yes you can
[02:16] <casanova> Frogzoo, it can't find the packages from thenew APT lines
[02:16] <pema-lotus> I'm going back to 5.10
[02:16] <Arafangion> zcat[1] , You just burn money on blank regular CD's? :)
[02:16] <casanova> --> installing from source
[02:16] <pema-lotus> xorg just crashes my install on detection
[02:17] <shriphani> can someone please tell me where to get the ubuntu bible ebook for free ?
[02:17] <zcat[1] _> I have a 1G card in my camera.. I use that to move large files around.
[02:17] <Frogzoo> casanova: click "custom" & add "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt breezy"     without quotes
[02:17] <Tobberoth> Is there anyway to change my screen resolution/hz in terminal?
[02:17] <Frogzoo> casanova: then hit reload - btw - what are you trying to run with  wine?
[02:18] <pianoboy3333> I really, really need hard drive help, I'm desperate, please please, can someone help me? I think I mortally screwed my ubuntu partition, I meant to install xubuntu on an external, but it seems to have installed over my main partition, Fujitsu was helping me before and we had started using autopsy to try, but he had to leave, so I need someone else to help finish! I really, really need extreme help
[02:18] <zcat[1] _> Please don't point out that a 1G flash card is about 100x more than a rewritable CD :)
[02:18] <Arafangion> zcat[1] , That works also.  I recently got a nice 512 usb drive, just cataloged a whole heap of CD's and I wanted to stick an index on the rewritable I found, is all :)
[02:18] <xice> Ubuntu bug #1, a good read
[02:18] <xice> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[02:18] <Arafangion> zcat[1] , Nah, you got your card "free" for your camera :)
[02:19] <shriphani> xice can you tell me where i can find ubuntu-linux bible ebook for free ?
[02:19] <casanova> Frogzoo; i did exactly so + checkd from my /etc/sources.list .. and the both ways failed. It complaines that it can't find the watever packages.gz
[02:19] <zcat[1] _> I need a 512M mp3 player.. one that records so I can record meetings and stuff too..
[02:19] <xice> do u mean ubuntuguide.org?
[02:19] <Frogzoo> zcat[1] _: a 1g flash card is about 60% more than a 600meg rw cd
[02:19] <casanova> Frogzoo; some Flash devloper apps that aren't ported on Linux
[02:19] <zdoor> Thanks Frogzoo, That worked just fine. I appreciate your help.
[02:19] <ploom> hi, has anyone else noticed that some web page scripts have stopped working with firefox just after switching from breezy to dapper on ubuntu amd64 version?
[02:19] <shriphani> erm ubuntu linux bible. not the guide
[02:20] <xice> nope no idea
[02:20] <shriphani> ok
[02:20] <shriphani> i mean it is a torrent and i am running breezy
[02:20] <Tobberoth> that ubuntu linux bible sounds interesting!
[02:20] <ploom> ..and at the same the sites keep working through firefox 1.5 on windows or even BSD?
[02:20] <eamo> ompaul, thermal DMA now set on and conf file updated - thanks
[02:21] <shriphani> it actually is interesting
[02:21] <shriphani> i want it bad and google returns no huge searches
[02:21] <DarkMageZ> ploom, i think i have seen your issue in 32bit versions as well, can u give me afew examples
[02:21] <Frogzoo> casanova: c 4 yourself, the pkgs are there definately: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/
[02:22] <Frogzoo> casanova: ru running 64bit?
[02:22] <ploom> the blue menu on http://www.ee.everyday.com/
[02:22] <casanova> Frogzoo, yea
[02:22] <Tobberoth> Anyone who knows how to change hz? My monitor doesn't like this at all!
[02:22] <ploom> DarkMageZ: please see the blue menu on http://www.ee.everyday.com/
[02:22] <casanova> i'm now trying to isntall from a .deb or from source
[02:22] <Frogzoo> casanova: there's your problem right there
[02:22] <Frogzoo> !tell Tobberoth about fixres
[02:23] <Frogzoo> casanova: pretty sure wine won't run as 64 bit regardless
[02:23] <Arafangion> zcat[1] , There should be a bug posted: "Bug: Ubuntu is not as good as Debian - posted by Debian User"
[02:24] <DarkMageZ> ploom, hmm, i can't seem to notice a problem
[02:24] <aimaz> i have a USB disk drive that i know works with ubuntu because it works on 2 of my friends' computers, I know my machine can handle USB mass storage because my camera works with it, but the disk drive doesn't work on my computer. it shows up in dmesg but the devices it mentions don't exist. Any ideas?
[02:24] <casanova> Frogzoo, i'm trying to build it from source now
[02:24] <ompaul> eamo, no worries, were you in the ICS yesterday?
[02:24] <mky375> Arafangion define good...
[02:24] <Frogzoo> casanova: b4 you go down that path - ask in #winehq - pretty sure your'e wasting your time
[02:25] <Arafangion> mky375, good is debian.
[02:25] <ploom> DarkMageZ: do the menu items that open when you mouseover change color and are they clickable to you?
[02:25] <eamo> ompaul what is ICS?
[02:25] <zcat[1] _> I'm getting frustrated, there are so many things that are just not quite right yet...
[02:25] <Arafangion> mky375, The fact that it's posted by "Debian user" is a very significant part of the bug.
[02:25] <Arafangion> mky375, Get it?
[02:25] <aimaz> Tobberoth, if you use gnome you can go to System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution and that should allow you to change it
[02:25] <ompaul> down beside the pepper cannister in mount st, irish computer society
[02:25] <mky375> =) lol just woke up a little while ago
[02:26] <zcat[1] _> acidrip is broken, it worked perfectly in breezy. kino is broken as installed, the fix is really quite trivial but not well documented..
[02:26] <Tobberoth> aimaz: That's the problem, that app won't let me change it, it's stuck on 75hz
[02:26] <Tobberoth> I want to put it to 60
[02:26] <ompaul> dapper launch dvd give away
[02:26] <frague> hi all
[02:26] <ompaul> eamo dapper launch dvd give away
[02:26] <aimaz> Tobberoth, ok, then you need to edit your xorg.conf to add the other frequencies
[02:26] <der0b> using dapper kubuntu..  I'm trying to config samba sharing via system settings/sharing.  I enter my su pass but all options under samba sharing are still greyed out.  anyont else see this?
[02:26] <DarkMageZ> ploom, hmm, they don't change color, but they drop down smoothly, and they are clickable
[02:26] <Dreamglider> why are no icons added to application's menu when i install programms with synaptic ?
[02:26] <ploom> DarkMageZ: in here they are not. I have tried unistalling firefox (with --purge) and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop and its still the same, the menu items get open but dont appear to get any mouse events (are not clickable)
[02:27] <eamo> ompaul I must contact ILUX guys
[02:27] <zcat[1] _> bugs for both broblems were files months ago, neither are even confirmed and neither will apparently ever be fixed in dapper now, because they're not security :(
[02:27] <ompaul> eamo, www.linux.ie
[02:27] <zcat[1] _> </rant>
[02:27] <eric___> I wondered if somebody would kindly point me toward a page with instructions for installing multiple operating systems/ Linux distributions on the same HD?
[02:27] <ompaul> eamo, can you join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:28] <eamo> ompaul new to IRC how to switch?
[02:28] <zcat[1] _> eric___: install Windows first, leave some blank space.. when you go to install ubuntu it will give you the option of only using free space AND set up grub to dual-boot.. too easy.
[02:28] <ompaul> eamo, what client are you using?
[02:28] <frague> I've problems with my ES1370 snd card : no sound an dapper !
[02:28] <eamo> X-Chat
[02:28] <ompaul> !dualboot
[02:28] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:29] <eric___> zxat: So I won't hose my main partition that way?
[02:29] <ompaul> eamo, click on this >>>           #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:29] <eric___> What about if I want Windows/ubuntu/debian?
[02:29] <eric___> Thanks ubotu for the link.
[02:29] <ompaul> !bot
[02:29] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[02:29] <zcat[1] _> if you already have windows installed you have to resize it.. which I've never had much luck with
[02:29] <der0b> eric___: I forget which issue, but TUX magazine has a great tutorial
[02:30] <zcat[1] _> for other linuxes they usually detect each other nicely and set up multiple boot.
[02:30] <der0b> http://tuxmagazine.org/
[02:30] <eric___> derob: Always afraid of screwing up the computer - that's the main reason I have this ancient iMac to screw around with.
[02:30] <Frogzoo> eric___: if you're going to shrink your windows partition - absolutly defrag windows before starting the ubuntu install
[02:30] <eric___> Nothing important on it, so if I mess it up, no biggie.
[02:30] <eric___> Frogzoo: Makes sense.
[02:31] <zcat[1] _> you can run windows on an iMac ?
[02:31] <frague> Also, I can mention a strange pb with upgrading breezy to dapper : hd ids move !
[02:31] <eric___> zcat: No - not in a straightforward way.  I get confused because I also have a Sony Vaio on which I've run Ubuntu live.
[02:32] <zcat[1] _> 12:30am here.. I should get some sleep
[02:32] <frague> in breezy, my hds are viewed as hda, hdb and hdf, and under dapper as hde, hdf and hdb
[02:32] <Hexidigital_> eric___:: what do you mean in a straightfoward way? youve tried before? and if so, did it work?
[02:32] <frague> respectively
[02:32] <eric___> HExidigital: I guess I meant VirtualPC, which no sane person would run on an old iMac.
[02:32] <Frogzoo> eric___: I've had my vaio totally ubuntu for some time & am very happy with it
[02:32] <Hexidigital_> eric___:: i see... i see it as no sane person would run windows :-P
[02:32] <der0b> using dapper kubuntu..  I'm trying to config samba sharing via system settings/sharing.  I enter my su pass but all options under samba sharing are still greyed out.  anyont else see this?
[02:33] <eric___> Frogzoo: Trouble is I need the windows side to run Dragon for my job.
[02:33] <Frogzoo> eric___: kqemu/vmware
[02:33] <der0b> I still need windows for some things..  most of my machines have made the switch.. it does have it's uses
[02:33] <frague> ;)
[02:33] <Frogzoo> eric___: oh no, for dragon, best option's probly wine
[02:33] <xice> or cedega
[02:34] <frague> dragon ??
[02:34] <Frogzoo> or xover office..
[02:34] <nomin> does dapper need more time to develop ways to get the nvidia drivers working right?  nvidia works fine on breezy, but I was just looking up nvidia stuff on ubuntuforums and it looks like there are some issues with dapper and nvidia.  Should I just wait a bit before upgrading to dapper?
[02:34] <Arafangion> eric___, And if the wine based solutions fail, qemu + kqemu can be very good.
[02:34] <Frogzoo> frague: dragon naturally speaking - it's a voice dictation prog
[02:34] <Arafangion> eric___, I wouldn't use them for 3D apps, but for everything else, they're very good.
[02:35] <shriphani> !ubuntu bible ebook
[02:35] <ubotu> shriphani: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
 : thanks
[02:35] <shriphani> bah
[02:35] <thomas> hallo
[02:35] <Tobberoth> nano won't let me save my edited xorg.conf, says permission denied
[02:35] <Tobberoth> how do fix it?
[02:35] <shriphani> !ubuntu ebooks
[02:35] <ubotu> shriphani: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:35] <Hexidigital_> nomin:: i have an nvidia card on my desktop, and i have no issues w/ dapper... actually, better performance than breezy
[02:35] <rpedro> Tobberoth: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 : sudo nano ...
[02:35] <Frogzoo> Tobberoth: you should have run nano from sudo ie 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:35] <Tobberoth> I think I did use sudo
[02:36] <xice> guys: is there a command which can distinguish if a process if active or not though terminal?
[02:36] <thomas> was ist soll
[02:36] <Frogzoo> xice: ps ?
[02:36] <frague> not a command, btu the process explorer
[02:36] <Tobberoth> Never mind :)
[02:36] <Hexidigital_> thomas:: sprichten deutches?
[02:36] <Beta_M> where are colours for 'ls' defined?
[02:36] <thomas> was iost so
[02:37] <thomas> was ist so
[02:37] <shriphani> !version
[02:37] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type ''lsb_release -a'' in a terminal.
[02:37] <frague> I've problems with my ES1370 snd card : no sound an dapper !
[02:37] <Hexidigital_> thomas:: kommt #ubuntu-de
[02:37] <rpedro> xice: do 'sudo apt-get install htop' , and type htop, it's a better version of top
[02:37] <thomas> mir ist fart
[02:38] <thomas> windows
[02:38] <burning_bronx> I've got my whole hardware up and running smooth like a !@#$ again - guess it just wasn't a good day for amd64
[02:38] <Hexidigital_> thomas:: do you need help with something?
[02:38] <xice> Frogzoo, yes, using ps, i want to form an if statement around the fact if 'xwinwrap' is active
[02:38] <Gabbo> hi, when i want to start tpb it always says something like: unable to open /dev/misc/nvram: no such file or directory. what can i do against this? (ubuntu dapper)
[02:39] <thomas> goolg
[02:39] <thomas> was ist soll
[02:39] <jameyg> How do I set filesystem quotas for a user? I have installed the quota package but I need an example or something.
[02:39] <thomas> jjn bhjbhbbjhhhjhhbHJJIN JINNJHNIONUNININIHNIHNNUN
[02:39] <Frogzoo> thomas: o.O
[02:39] <tijn> ?
[02:39] <mky375> Gabbo what happens if you run it a root?
[02:40] <xice> rpedro, can htop determine through a command if 'xwinwrap' is active?
[02:40] <thomas> TRKIYE
[02:40] <Gabbo> mky375 same
[02:40] <rpedro> xice, hmm dunno , it's a prog like top
[02:40] <mky375> what is the output of "ls -l /dev/misc/nvram"
[02:41] <thomas> WIEN IST SO SOLL
[02:41] <Gabbo> mky375 /dev/misc doesn't exist
[02:41] <Frogzoo> thomas: please go away
[02:41] <jameyg> thomas: in Englisch bitter
[02:41] <thomas> JA MISC
[02:41] <Gabbo> thomas kennst du #ubuntu-de? :>
[02:41] <steveire> I'm trying to figure out what firefox does when I click the open containing folder button in the downloads window. I thought running it in the terminal would show the command used (nautilus $1 or something), but it doesn't happen
[02:41] <thomas> JA
[02:41] <steveire> any ideas?
[02:42] <rpedro> xice, have you checked man ps to see if it has an option to show that info?
[02:42] <xice> ill check
[02:42] <mky375> Gabbo what kind of video card to you have?
[02:42] <Gabbo> mky375 a rage mobility m 4mb (thinkpad x21)
[02:43] <Frogzoo> steveire: about:config    maybe
[02:43] <thomas> SUDOKU
[02:43] <alex_joni> hello
[02:43] <alex_joni> anyone has experience with changing the usplash on dapper?
[02:44] <divbyzero> Hello, I have a question about a wireless PCMCIA interfacing with ndiswrapper and wpa-supplicant in Dapper Drake
[02:44] <thomas> WAS IST SOLL
[02:44] <divbyzero> can anyone hel me?
[02:44] <Hexidigital_> thomas:: kommt #ubuntu-de
[02:44] <mky375> Gabbo sound's like it trying to access the video memory at /dev/misc/nvram.. i'm lookin in there now and don't see it gimme a sec
[02:45] <Gabbo> :)
[02:45] <thomas> MERKUR
[02:46] <divbyzero> no one?
[02:46] <Frogzoo> !ndiswrapper
[02:46] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:46] <thomas> ONE IST NICHT
[02:46] <thomas> GUT
[02:47] <Kimppa> Hi. I just removed two dvd-images (each 4,8 GB) using the command "rm filename*". I did this and the files was removed so that I can't see them when giving the "ls"-command. However, no hard disk space was released, "df -h" says I have 300 MBs free space even thought I just removed the dvds. Any ideas what's causing this and more important, how to fix it
[02:47] <steveire> Frogzoo: No entry there, no. Any more?
[02:47] <thomas> CHELLO
[02:48] <thomas> JA
[02:48] <phreak97> im using azureas and i want to forward a port for it, but i need an application name
[02:48] <divbyzero> I have done all of these passages, but then the wpa-supplicant tries to connect but immediately disconnects because 'the attempts had timed out'
[02:48] <thomas> 4,8
[02:48] <phreak97> i dont know what to put for it
[02:48] <phreak97> theres a list of stuff and none are azureas-like
[02:48] <goibhniu> I just upgraded from breezy to dapper and tried reinstalling the nvidia drivers, but it's not working. Module nvidia not found. I've followed a few guides but nothing is working
[02:48] <casanova> ahh, it seems tha tthe 64 -bit edition ofUbuntu Linux is IMPAIRED when itcomes to media apps
[02:49] <rpedro> phreak97: are you using a gui to setup firewall rules ?
[02:49] <thomas> FRSEHEN JA SCH1!
[02:49] <casanova> "this [whatever piece of software]  is incompatible with your architecture (x86-64)
[02:49] <aalya> Hi, i have a windows partition, if i format & reinstall windows, dapper will configure grub auto or not ?
[02:49] <divbyzero> could anyone please suggest a PCMCIA or USB wireless antenna fully compatible with Linux?
[02:49] <thomas> linux ja
[02:49] <Hexidigital_> thomas:: stop it
[02:49] <thomas> was
[02:49] <casanova> Antennas are all compatible with linux lol
[02:50] <thomas> lol
[02:50] <Hexidigital_> any channel ops here?
[02:50] <casanova> but try D-Link DWL series PCMCIA's
[02:50] <goibhniu> modprobe nvidia should work, shouldn't it?
[02:50] <Di42lo> lo
[02:50] <phreak97> rpedro, i am
[02:50] <phreak97> on my router
[02:50] <Di42lo> i got problem with my ipod connected to my ubuntu ...i get Read-only file system error everytime
[02:50] <CraHan> casanova: I had some issues with my DWL-650+ though
[02:51] <thomas> ubunten
[02:51] <CraHan> rge DWL-650 is a perfect card
[02:51] <CraHan> the 650+ version has a completely new chipset and can be hard to get running correctly
[02:51] <Hexidigital_> thomas:: stop it right now or i will call a channel op
[02:51] <casanova> If not D-Link, just return it in the shop and change it in Bufffalo
[02:51] <thomas> ja
[02:51] <rpedro> aalya: after reinstalling windows, you need to run the ubuntu setup cd in recovery mode, run a shell/chroot on the root partition , an run grub-install /dev/hda or whatever partition you installed the mbr to
[02:51] <goibhniu> does anyone know if nvidia.ko is the file that should be loaded? Because there's only one in 2.6.12 not in 2.6.15 like I'd expect
[02:51] <thomas> windows
[02:52] <Hexidigital_> !ops
[02:52] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:52] <alex_joni> goibhniu: you need to rebuild it like you built it the first time
[02:52] <thomas> frage
[02:52] <aalya> rpedro: ok ty
[02:52] <Hobbsee> Hexidigital_: ?
[02:52] <phreak97> rpedro, is the application name important?
[02:52] <fiveiron> hmmmm
[02:52] <Hexidigital_> Hobbsee:: thomas refuses to stop randomly spamming
[02:52] <fiveiron> i'm having some issues mounting my ufs drive...
[02:52] <rpedro> phreak97: can't you just add a custom port to the firewall rules?
[02:52] <phreak97> rpedro, not without a name
[02:52] <divbyzero> in fact, I have a 650+
[02:52] <LoPMX> hu guys
[02:52] <Hexidigital_> ompaul:: thank you
[02:52] <LoPMX> did anyone install aixgl on ubuntu?
[02:52] <Hexidigital_> Hobbsee:: thank you also
[02:52] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:52] <goibhniu> alex_joni: cheers, so I can't just use the debs?
[02:53] <casanova> Can i undergrade ym kernel back to 32-bit from this 64 -bit distro?
[02:53] <rpedro> phreak97: dont think so, just add a descriptive name, I believe it's just for reference
[02:53] <phreak97> ok, thanks
[02:53] <Hexidigital_> casanova:: i dont think you can
[02:53] <ompaul> Hexidigital_, after you type ops if you say the reason on a new line it makes it easier to see what is wrong ;-)
[02:53] <Seveas> casanova, you'll need to reinstall
[02:53] <alex_joni> goibhniu: think you need some modules that are not distributed by default
[02:53] <casanova> wh? i've done kernel "updates" onseveral other distros
[02:53] <goibhniu> alex_joni: excellent ... I'll try ... thanks!
[02:53] <Hexidigital_> ompaul:: thanks for the info :)
[02:53] <ompaul> Hexidigital_, so you can say !ops and then next line Issue spam JoeBloggs
[02:53] <ompaul> ;-)
[02:53] <alex_joni> goibhniu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[02:53] <Hexidigital_> cheers
[02:54] <Bassetts> how can i view files as root in terminal??
[02:54] <kallei> how do i modify wich places (mounted volumes etc) that are to be in the "Places"  and on my desktop?
[02:54] <Dreamglider> is there any software that will. show me all wireless networks that are in range ?
[02:54] <Tobberoth> Odd. I added VertRefresh and HorizSync to my xorg.conf, now my monitor works, even if I still can't lower the hz ^^
[02:54] <Seveas> casanova, 32 vs 64 bit is a completely different architecture...
[02:54] <casanova> I know, but it's jsut the kernel optimization that's it
[02:54] <Seveas> no
[02:54] <casanova> what else is differenT?
[02:54] <avis> i am inside a directory i that containes all my music.  how do i cp * including directories, forced copy if exist folder, replace if non-existant files ?
[02:54] <Seveas> casanova, all packages...
[02:55] <casanova> hmmh, compilation sucks
[02:55] <Seveas> you don't have to compile. just reinstall
[02:55] <alex_joni> avis: cp -rf *
[02:55] <alex_joni> avis: man cp
[02:55] <avis> thank you
[02:55] <casanova> reinstallation sux
[02:56] <avis> followed by desintation folder ?
[02:56] <Seveas> then just stay at 64 bits
[02:56] <casanova> it's hard wrk
[02:56] <Tobberoth> compilation both sucks and rocks at the same time :D
[02:56] <Seveas> and keep the language in here family friendly
[02:56] <Tobberoth> I compiled my first program yesterday (ie, my first real program, not one i coded myself) and it worked very well
[02:56] <casanova> if compiling form source, it rocks cos hten you'll get the right conf for your computer at once
[02:56] <Seveas> casanova, that's just gentoo ricerism
[02:57] <casanova> Nope. I'm doing source compilation for servers all the time - mostly with debian, but on desktop i decided to try this ubuntu
[02:57] <Seveas> sigh
[02:57] <Seveas> fine, have it your way
[02:57] <sdagrub> hi all.. having probs getting ubuntu to root from /dev/sda1 with mbr on /dev/hda (which is a 'dozeXP partition)
[02:57] <Hexidigital_> casanova:: are you installing ubuntu as a server?
[02:57] <casanova> just because it's fast to install, seveas - it's nice to spend a week configuring your box, but sometimes when you've got a deadline oyu want your box to stand up fast
[02:58] <goibhniu> alex_joni: can you tell me though ... should I be able to load the nvidia module just with modprobe nvidia? I'm concerned there's voodoo involved ;)
[02:58] <casanova> nope. i'm using ubuntu as a desktop, debian as server
[02:58] <Hexidigital_> casanova:: then use the default install, and configure what you need....  make it easier on yourself
[02:58] <alex_joni> goibhniu: can't enlighten you more, I'm running the default nv
[02:58] <alex_joni> no acceleration
[02:59] <alex_joni> anyone has experience with changing the usplash on dapper?
[02:59] <casanova> But my problem is that Wine / other 32 bit apps don't work wiht this fsck'n custom kernel that comes with the official Ubuntu 64 -bit release
[02:59] <Hexidigital_> alex_joni:: are you only configuring the splashscreen?
[02:59] <Tobberoth> From my experiences here, it seems I was kinda right when I said going 64-bit now was a bad move ;)
[02:59] <casanova> Why is it that on CentOS, on SuSE, on Redhat Enterprise, an on Gentoo, 32 -bit apps work thoroughly fine on a 64 -bit install buton Ubuntu they don't? Even debian...
[02:59] <alex_joni> Hexidigital_: tried to, but it stays black when I did that
[03:00] <alex_joni> Hexidigital_: I should probably mention I'm running my own set of kernels
[03:00] <Hexidigital_> alex_joni:: try using gnome-splashscreen-manager (sudo apt-get install....) i had success with it
[03:00] <alex_joni> Hexidigital_: ty, will try
[03:00] <Hexidigital_> alex_joni:: no probl
[03:01] <casanova> It's jsut that the Linux Kernel supports the both 64 -bit and the 32 -bit runtimes, but for some reason compiling the packages on only 64 -bit makes the distro incompatible with some essential software that ppl might need
[03:01] <Eric_10> Hi friends,
[03:01] <Hexidigital_> gotta run guys... long night :)  have a great day everyone
[03:01] <Eric_10> Somebody from Brazil?
[03:01] <Seveas> !br
[03:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:01] <kallei> Do i have to do something special to get my mp3s to play in amarok ? right now  amarok just goes over all songs in the playlist in a split second and no sound is coming
[03:01] <casanova> Eric_10 i wish i was in brazil right now =DD
[03:03] <Dreamglider> is there any software that will. show me all wireless networks that are in range ?
[03:03] <Eric_10> Great CasaNova... and the world cup? will Brazil  be the winner?
[03:03] <casanova> nope. Argentina.
[03:03] <casanova> ;-)
[03:03] <mky375> Gabbo try "sudo modprobe nvram" then run tpb
[03:03] <Eric_10> Argentina :P. kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.
[03:03] <casanova> i jsut said it to piss u off dude
[03:03] <casanova> ;-P
[03:03] <Eric_10> But, the game of Argentina yesterday was very beautiful
[03:04] <casanova> ye, i think we'll see them in semifinals at least
[03:04] <Hattori> when i boot it doesn't load gmd automatically, i have to login in dos-mode and run "startx".. what could be? how to get gdm start automatically?
[03:04] <Eric_10> I don't understand because Carlito Tevez not in titular team.
[03:04] <Gabbo> mky375 big thx! it works fine
[03:04] <Seveas> offtopic discussions elsewhere please
[03:04] <casanova> Maybe also Cameroon / African countries are really a surprise sometimes
[03:04] <RadiantFire> Hattori: try sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults
[03:05] <mky375> Gabbo np
[03:05] <Hattori> RadiantFire_ it says: ...already exists....
[03:05] <casanova> Eric_10, all argentina needs is Diego Maradna watching the game (and distributing yerbas in the locker room)
[03:05] <Hattori> RadiantFire: it says: ...already exists....
[03:06] <casanova> hmmh
[03:06] <Farchord> Hello guys, I have a question. I am thinkin of starting to learn linux (Yes, I am crossing the final frontier, Star trek style), but my video card seems to have support issues under Linux. Anyone know if the support got better for my ATi Radeon 9600 pro All in wonder in the last year?
[03:06] <Eric_10> Casanova. I will go watch the Netherlands game. Thanks for the conversation. ;) And good luck for the Argentina.
[03:06] <RadiantFire> Hattori: what happens when you run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:06] <Hattori> RadiantFire: wait, rebooting..
[03:06] <Seveas> Farchord, I'm using a 9600 mobility, works like a charm
[03:06] <Farchord> Yes, but what about the TV tuner part?
[03:07] <Seveas> Farchord, that I don't know, maybe someone else
[03:07] <Farchord> I know a friend that has the same card, and he had huge issues
[03:07] <casanova> back, let's talk about Linux
[03:07] <Farchord> I actually want to go into Linux, but I want my Tv card to work! lol
[03:07] <Hattori> RadiantFire: it happens nothing
[03:07] <RadiantFire> thast so wierd...
[03:08] <mitja> How do I order dpkg to install to specific destination?
[03:08] <RadiantFire> do ps -A | grep gdm
[03:08] <Seveas> mitja, you don't
[03:08] <Hattori> RadiantFire: it happens nothing
[03:08] <mihir> hi i am new at ubuntu and linux: how do i change icons?
[03:08] <Seveas> locations of files are mandated by the filesystem hierarchy standard
[03:08] <RadiantFire> so no gdm is started
[03:08] <Seveas> mihir, icons for what?
[03:09] <RadiantFire> Hattori: try running sudo /usr/bin/kdm
[03:09] <Hattori> RadiantFire: ya, why to start automatically at boot time? instead of the dos-like login ?
[03:09] <mihir> hi! i went to gnome themes .com and i downloaded a set of icons from there...
[03:09] <RadiantFire> sorry /usr/bin/gdm
[03:09] <Farchord> Well okay then anyone knows where the hardware support list is for Ubuntu? I can at least check if my TV tuner is gonna work there
[03:09] <Seveas> Farchord, wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:09] <Toma-> Farchord: what card is it?
[03:10] <Hattori> no file or dir
[03:10] <brokenthorn> Does the beyond patchset break the usplash???
[03:10] <Hattori> RadiantFire: no file or dir
[03:10] <Farchord> Toma-: ATi Radeon 9600 pro AiW
[03:10] <RadiantFire> well, Hattori I'm almost out of ideas
[03:10] <Bassetts> where can i get a new usplash? or how do i make one
[03:10] <mihir> seveas?
[03:10] <RadiantFire> Hattori: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:10] <Toma-> Farchord: wow... ati make tv tuners?! cool!
[03:10] <alex_joni> Bassetts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[03:10] <brokenthorn> Bassetts, do you run any patched kernel?
[03:10] <alex_joni> Bassetts: let me know if it works for you
[03:10] <Farchord> Toma- I HOPE you aren't serious.
[03:10] <Seveas> mihir, ah, system  preferences  themes
[03:11] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: I am running a patched kernel, and that usplash wiki didn't help
[03:11] <Bassetts> brokenthorn, i dont think so, i use the latest 686 with smp
[03:11] <Bassetts> thanks alex_joni
[03:11] <Toma-> Farchord: in the land of the kangaroo, we dont get much ATI and fancy tech
[03:11] <Farchord> lol
[03:11] <Farchord> it's just that
[03:11] <mihir> yes. thats where i can change the theme from. but i downloaded just icons!
[03:11] <Farchord> ATi makes em since the early 1995
[03:11] <Hattori> RadiantFire: it says that gdm is corrupted..
[03:11] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, may I ask what patchset?
[03:11] <RadiantFire> Hattori: well, that would explain it
[03:12] <tdn> How do I set the resolution to 1600x1200 in the console?
[03:12] <RadiantFire> Hattori: try using synaptic to reinstall gdm
[03:12] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: RTAI
[03:12] <RadiantFire> and seeing whath appens
[03:12] <Hattori> RadiantFire: any way to do that with apt-get?
[03:12] <Seveas> tdn, with a kernel parameter on boot like vga=791 (which is 1024x768, don't know the 1600x1200 one)
[03:12] <RadiantFire> Hattori, I suppose just apt-get remove; apt-get install
[03:12] <Bassetts> where can i actually get a usplash from though?
[03:12] <mihir> sdf
[03:12] <RadiantFire> Hattori: but I don't know how much of dependencies that wil remove
[03:12] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: building with make-kpkg, which had a small bug that rendered usplash unuseable
[03:12] <ic56> tdn: do you mean you want a text console with that resolution or do you mean how to set the GUI resolution from the command line?
[03:12] <RadiantFire> Hattori: be certain you write down dependencies that are uninstalled
[03:12] <Toma-> Seveas: vga=ask is handy
[03:12] <tdn> Seveas: well, it is 1600x1200 I am looking for.
[03:13] <chavo> do apt-get install --reinstall
[03:13] <Seveas> tdn, listen to Toma-'s advise 
[03:13] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, hmm, you develop?
[03:13] <Hattori> thx
[03:13] <RadiantFire> oh, that would do it as well
[03:13] <gharz> guys, what's the use to check the dependent files for a certain application, ie. clamav?
[03:13] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: a bit
[03:13] <CrazyDoode_> hmmm...  ndiswrapper alias's to wlan0 in modprobe.d but for some reason 6.06 puts the wifi on eth1
[03:13] <gharz> guys, what's the  command line to to check the dependent files for a certain application, ie. clamav?
[03:13] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, why RTAI?
[03:13] <tdn> ic56: I want the console resolution to be 1600x1200. Not X.
[03:13] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: RT support
[03:13] <Seveas> CrazyDoode_, 6.06 has a native broadcom driver
[03:13] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: and RTLinux is simply lots worse
[03:13] <Seveas> no ndiswrapper 
[03:14] <tdn> Seveas: ok.
[03:14] <gharz>  = what's the keyboard entry for this?
[03:14] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, why when there's also -ck -rt and -beyond?
[03:14] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: didn't try those out, but I need about 1-5 usec latency
[03:14] <alex_joni> think they aren't that advanced yet
[03:14] <will> what's the best way to create an iso from a cd to mount ?   (its for cedega)
[03:14] <Toma-> gharz: its a japanese character
[03:14] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, what are your usual needs?
[03:14] <mky375> tdn i think its an option you can pass to grub but I don't know how.....
[03:14] <ic56> tdn: you cannot do that directly from the kernel.  You need to install the SVGATextMode utility.  It has an X-like config file for setting fancy VGA text-only modes.
[03:14] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: http://sourceforge.net/projects/emc/
[03:14] <Bassetts> is there no where to download a new usplash?
[03:15] <slackern> will: are you using gnome?
[03:15] <CrazyDoode_> Seveas: ha..yes, i just found it, wpasupplicant.
[03:15] <Seveas> will: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/path/to/new.iso
[03:15] <tdn> ic56: can't I do it with framebuffer?
[03:15] <slackern> will: you should be able to just browse to the cd in places -> computer -> rightclick the cd and have some create image option if im not wrong.
[03:15] <bootlick> Morning all
[03:16] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, I see...
[03:16] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, have you any experince with -beyond?
[03:16] <gharz> guys, what's the application to view .CHM files for gnome?
 thanks man    .... and <slackern>   sweet   thats easy :))
[03:16] <foxbox> how do i add program to specified runlevel?
[03:16] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: nope, got a link for me to read on?
[03:16] <will> thanks
[03:16] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, I've tried -ck -> didn't want to boot
[03:16] <slackern> will: sorry if you choose copy cd, it will give you an option to copy it to either and image or another cdburner
[03:17] <slackern> will: but i guess you know where to look :)
[03:17] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: so far, I'm pretty happy with RTAI
[03:17] <mekanzoo> question: how do I share folder?
[03:17] <phreak97> is it likely that my routers gui is not compatable with a linux browser?
[03:17] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, http://iphitus.loudas.com/beyond.html
[03:17] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: and the dapper kernel I built works fairly well
[03:17] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/
[03:17] <phreak97> cos if i add new port forwards, they dont add
[03:17] <ic56> tdn: I'm not familiar with framebuffer.  But if by that, you mean the vga modes available via the vga= kernel parameter, the answer is no because the VGA BIOS doesn't have pre-configured values for all possible permutations.
[03:17] <alex_joni> brokenthorn: care to join #emc-devel ? less crowded
[03:17] <ajax4> I just installed Dapper and my joystick doesn't work. Any tips?
[03:17] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, I've chosen -beyond now since it provide -ck and more
[03:17] <slackern> phreak97: some routers need to be restarted, have you tried that?
[03:18] <tdn> ic56: ok.
[03:18] <brokenthorn> alex_joni, right away
[03:18] <bootlick> Using asureus, on drapper, i get a warning saying that if i have a firewall please check to see if port 46761 UDP is open, this is a fresh install of drapper and I have installed no firewall, is there a firewall or such on by default?
[03:18] <will> good on you <slackern> :))
[03:18] <rens> dutch people here
[03:18] <ompaul> !nl
[03:18] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[03:19] <rens> zij er nederlaners hiero
[03:19] <Seveas> rens, #ubuntu-nl
[03:19] <rens> ja
[03:20] <rigonatti> hi there !!
 do you have a hardware router?  may need to tell it to free up port 46761 ... or whatever port you choose to use
[03:20] <rigonatti> does anyone know how to write NTFS files?
[03:20] <bootlick> Will - I am plugged right into the cable modem, no router
[03:20] <will> portforward.com
[03:20] <ic56> foxbox: update-rc.d
[03:20] <chicken-man> Hi can someone help me get my mouse working in Xorg/Gnome, I have a wireless USB mouse, It worked at first and now it won't work at all.
[03:20] <slackern> bootlick: Dapper does not have a firewall enabled by default.
[03:21] <will> bootlick,  portforward.com has everything you need
[03:21] <Seveas> rigonatti, boot into windows
[03:21] <bootlick> Will - Thanks will check that out
[03:21] <Toma-> Whats that app that lets you change cursor themes graphically?
[03:21] <slackern> bootlick: the command 'sudo iptables -L' in a shell will show you if you have some firewallrules enabled.
[03:21] <will> is the experimental "write to " any good ?ntfs
[03:21] <Seveas> Toma-, gcursor iirc
[03:21] <Toma-> thx
[03:22] <slackern> will: I have only used it to create new files on NTFS drivers, never to edit/change any files.
[03:22] <ajax4> Toma-, System -> Preferences -> Mouse
[03:23] <Seveas> will, only if your data is not important to you 
[03:23] <slackern> will: It has worked for the small things i needed to transfer, but i would not recommend using it since it _can_ break.
[03:23] <xice> will, it seems to manage but i dont trust it
[03:23] <chicken-man> Can someone help me get my mouse working in Xorg/Gnome, I have a wireless USB mouse, It worked at first and now it won't work at all.
[03:23] <bootlick> Slackern - I ran sudo iptables -L and "Chain Input (policy Accept) target prot opt source destination displayed three times with Input replaced with Forward and output for the other two times. is this normal?
[03:24] <Seveas> bootlick, yes
[03:24] <LoPMX_> any aixgl packages available?
[03:24] <Seveas> LoPMX_, xserver-xorg-air oslt
[03:24] <bootlick> So, no firewall nor iptable chains installed.
[03:24] <will> many thanks .... i saw experimental ntfs on install, and clicked  noooooo   :)
[03:25] <bootlick> Whats blocking my port 46761..
[03:25] <LoPMX_> Seveas: oslt?
[03:25] <slackern> bootlick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15522 this is how my output looks, thats without any rules.
[03:25] <xice> firestarter
[03:25] <Seveas> oslt == or something like that
[03:25] <LoPMX_> ah
[03:25] <LoPMX_> -core
[03:25] <chicken-man> Can someone help me get my mouse working in Xorg/Gnome, I have a wireless USB mouse, It worked at first and now it won't work at all.
[03:26] <CrazyDoode_> ahh here's my problem!  ndiswrapper version 1.8 loaded
[03:26] <CrazyDoode_> current is 1.17
[03:26] <bootlick> Slackern - Mine is exactly the same
[03:27] <void^> bootlick: make sure you use sun's jre with azureus
[03:27] <bootlick> Is there a command to open a specific port?
[03:27] <bootlick> suns jre?
[03:27] <Seveas> CrazyDoode_, if you want to use ndiswrapper on dapper, you have to blacklist bcm43xx
[03:28] <void^> ubotu: tell bootlick about java
[03:28] <CrazyDoode_> Seveas: sorry? what do you mean blacklist?
[03:28] <bootlick> I installed it with the synmapic, and it istalled the neccisarry packages
[03:28] <void^> bootlick: you need to run update-alternatives
[03:28] <chicken-man> Can someone help me get my mouse working in Xorg/Gnome, I have a wireless USB mouse, It worked at first and now it won't work at all.
[03:28] <bootlick> I try both of those tips
[03:28] <bootlick> thanks fellows
[03:29] <Seveas> CrazyDoode_, echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom_is_bad
[03:29] <slackern> bootlick: you had a router you said? which brand and modell?
[03:29] <bootlick> No router
[03:29] <bootlick> Straight into the cable modem
[03:29] <aLPHa_LeaK>  brb
[03:29] <Seveas> CrazyDoode_, and reboot after thayt
[03:29] <slackern> bootlick: oh adsl modem?
[03:29] <nomin> how do I disable the Grub bootloader?
[03:29] <bootlick> tetroin cable modem
[03:30] <void^> nomin: replace it with something else
[03:30] <slackern> bootlick: Just wondering since some adslmodems are routers also with firewalls
[03:30] <CrazyDoode_> Seveas: ok, but won't that prevent ndiswrapper from using the XP ndis bcm43xx driver?
[03:30] <chicken-man> Can someone help me get my mouse working in Xorg/Gnome, I have a wireless USB mouse, It worked at first and now it won't work at all.
[03:30] <Seveas> CrazyDoode_, no
[03:30] <CrazyDoode_> ok, then i'll give it a shot!
[03:31] <bootlick> This update-alternatvies, where do i find it?
[03:31] <slackern> bootlick: i think it's installed as default.
[03:32] <bootlick> hm,
[03:32] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i run a .jar?
[03:32] <bootlick> running azureus on windows, not a problem, and i had zonealarm running on that
[03:32] <MarcN> MetaMorfoziS: usually something like this from the command line:     java -jar somefile.jar
[03:32] <swb> anyone care to tell me why, openoffice.org is hanging when it tries to upgrade itself on apt on dapper
[03:32] <slackern> bootlick: 'which update-alternatives' will show you where the binary is located.
[03:32] <chicken-man> Can someone help me get my mouse working in Xorg/Gnome, I have a wireless USB mouse, It worked at first and now it won't work at all.
[03:33] <Bassetts> how do i make a usplash in gimp? i cant figure out the layer pallete
[03:33] <slackern> bootlick: oh, then it could be something with azuerus/java messing around with you probably.
[03:33] <Gabbo> since i updated to dapper, the shortcuts Ctrl+Alt+F1-6 don't work. anyone an idea what the problem could be?
[03:33] <swb> also why ATI DRI acceleration has broken iteself, actually I know that its because the kernel module is a diff version number to the xorg driver
[03:33] <bootlick> Slackern /usr/sbin/update-alternatives  I take it its installed allready then
[03:33] <bootlick> I will focus on the java
[03:34] <slackern> bootlick: aye there you got it, you need to use 'sudo update-alternatives' for it since it needs to be run using superuser priviligies
[03:34] <fearme> i downloaded a movie file but it wont play on km player, xine movie player or movie player.  any ideas how i could get it to work?
[03:35] <zdoor> Using GNUplot on a very large 80 Mbyte time based data file with 7 columns causes GNUplot to crash in Ubuntu. Same file OK on windows, although very slow. Does anyone use GNUplot?
[03:35] <slackern> bootlick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and read the section "Selecting the default Java version"
[03:36] <fearme> i downloaded a movie file but it wont play on km player, xine movie player or movie player.  any ideas how i could get it to work?
[03:36] <bootlick> Hmm
[03:36] <bootlick> Says page not found for the Java page
[03:36] <ronzo> fearme, what movie format?
[03:36] <fearme> ronzo, .bin
[03:37] <slackern> bootlick: hmm https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java doesn't work?
[03:37] <bootlick> no, on both computers
[03:37] <ronzo> never messed w/ .bin movies, fearme =)
[03:37] <fearme> ronzo, i also tried some of my files that were .avi
[03:38] <slackern> bootlick: hmm must be something messy then, works fine here.
[03:38] <slackern> i can put it up on pastebin for reading for you.
[03:38] <fearme> ronzo, and the same thing happened
[03:38] <rigonatti> does anyone know how to write NTFS files?
[03:38] <bootlick> strange, windows computer and linux both not getting a page
[03:38] <void^> rigonatti: don't
[03:38] <bootlick> www.cnn.com works fine
[03:39] <slackern> bootlick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15523 works?
[03:39] <rigonatti> void^: someone said that 3th applications can write in NTFS
[03:39] <slackern> bootlick: i copied the section for you and put it there.
[03:39] <fearme> ronzo, if u cant help do u no any one who could?
[03:39] <void^> rigonatti: yes, captive-ntfs. if you feel like toying with that, have fun
[03:39] <bootlick> yes, that pastebin works fine... i have problems....
[03:40] <ic56> void^: is captive-ntfs same as FUSE or is it a different beast?
[03:40] <rigonatti> i dont know ..... but FAT32 isnt the better way ...
[03:40] <rigonatti> I mean ..you lost a lot of clusters
[03:40] <void^> ic56: captive uses the windows driver to read/write ntfs.. don't know if it uses fuse.
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> Fuse is a different beast - i think. :P
[03:40] <ranpha> Does somebody have a working IBM thinkpad with ubuntu?? i can't seem to get the mouse working good
[03:40] <ic56> void^: thx!
[03:41] <ronzo> anyone else know bout .bin movie files in ubuntu? =)
[03:41] <fearme> rigonatti, i downloaded a movie file but it wont play on km player, xine movie player or movie player.  any ideas how i could get it to work?
[03:41] <void^> ronzo: mplayer can play a .bin without mounting it afaik
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> ronzo,  you mean cue/.bins ?
[03:41] <ronzo> fearme, you get that?
[03:41] <liionel> hello, does anyone know about zxdsl zte 852 ?
[03:41] <fearme> ronzo, ya but i dont have mplayer
[03:41] <xice> whats a superkey???
[03:41] <ronzo> apt-get mplayer. =P
[03:42] <fearme> lol
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> mplayer, or vlc.
[03:42] <slackern> xice: superkey = Windowskey/Applekey on macs
[03:42] <xice> ty
[03:42] <ronzo> mplayer > all
[03:42] <ronzo> imo
[03:42] <bootlick> well the java is updated, thanks for the pastebin slakern
[03:43] <slackern> bootlick: your welcome.
[03:43] <jc-denton> where is the script that changes the default sound device under dapper
[03:43] <bootlick> the rest of the upates, javadoc, javah and such say no alternatives
[03:43] <fearme> ronzo, i typed apt-get mplayer and it said 'E: Invalid operation mplayer'
[03:43] <slackern> bootlick: they are probably not installed then, not sure if you need them though.
[03:43] <void^> !multiverse
[03:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[03:43] <ronzo> fearme, its apt-get install mplayer
[03:43] <void^> ^^ fearme
[03:43] <fearme> lol
[03:44] <fearme> thanks
[03:44] <slackern> fearme: you need to use 'sudo apt-get install mplayer' also
[03:44] <ronzo> np
[03:44] <pirast> ivor, ping
[03:44] <aLPHa_LeaK>  re
[03:44] <pirast> whups
[03:44] <ronzo> i just su and do apt-get =P
[03:44] <slackern> fearme: you forgot the 'install' part :p
[03:44] <pirast> wrong channel, sorry
[03:44] <slackern> fearme: but i recommend doing an 'apt-cache search mplayer' first to find the correct version of mplayer for your processor.
[03:44] <shriphani> how do i read pdf in the console ?
[03:45] <fearme> slackern, do u need to be root to do this?
[03:45] <slackern> fearme: not for the apt-cache but for apt-get install you need to run it with sudo
[03:46] <slackern> fearme: apt-cache only lists avaliable packages and is available to all users.
[03:46] <shriphani> how do i read pdf files from console ?
[03:46] <jc-denton> what happens if i choose another sound device in the System->Preferences->Sound?
[03:46] <fearme> slackern, kk.
[03:46] <fearme> thanks
[03:46] <void^> shriphani: perhaps pdftohtml and a console browser (links, lynx)
[03:46] <shriphani> i mean i have the pdf in a dir
[03:46] <slackern> shriphani: Not sure you can, since it's a graphical format might need to convert it with something first.
[03:46] <shriphani> ahhh
[03:47] <shriphani> just when i was getting good with the debian bible and decided to go ansole
[03:47] <slackern> shriphani: hehe
[03:47] <[0x90] > hi people... can you help me configuring my dhcpd?
[03:47] <shriphani> console ^
[03:47] <slackern> [0x90] : dhcpd as in the daemon?
[03:47] <haitike> someone know how to SCIM runs as daemon when I start the seccion?
[03:47] <[0x90] > yeah
[03:48] <[0x90] > i need to make an dhcp server work
[03:48] <Lord_Pall> so I have an idea. i have a working ubuntu install on an ide drive. It is the secondary boot device in this machine. the primary is 2 sata drives running in raid 0. Is it possible to partition a small section off of the raid drives and install grub so that I can boot into windows and ubuntu?
[03:48] <slackern> [0x90] : perhaps, i have one running here myself, but i use mine for static dhcp.
[03:48] <[0x90] > how did you configured it?
[03:48] <will> what was the funky mount string for mounting an iso please guys / gals ?
[03:48] <Lord_Pall> I had the ide drive as the primary boot and grub worked, ubuntu worked, but grub couldnt find the windows drives.
[03:48] <[0x90] > i want to install linux on xbox from an remote image on my computer
[03:49] <slackern> [0x90] : Well it's a bit more complex answer to that question, i could give you the config file i use and you can work from it.
[03:49] <InterNut> im running xfce4 on my "server", when i try to add the applet "network monitor" and enters the device "eth0" i get an error "interface was not found" and thats the device im using, should it say something else there?
[03:49] <[0x90] > that would be great :D
[03:49] <[0x90] > can you send it to me plz?
[03:51] <[0x90] > slackern, can you send the config file, please?
[03:51] <reds> #tana
[03:51] <slackern> [0x90] : In a moment, i want to change some things since i prefer not to give out my macadresses and internal adresses to the public to view :)
[03:51] <[0x90] > ah ok :)
[03:51] <guiba> sorry, but i'm a new user, so i have many doubts, some is how install xmms, sorry if i disturbed... some one can help me?
[03:52] <danfg> why do firefox and thunderbird have ugly regular icons under ubuntu? how can i set them to use cooler ones?
[03:52] <FireCat> Does the alternate install cd contain the text based installer?
[03:53] <Howdy125> yes
[03:53] <u01p2101> danfg: every time if need
[03:53] <FireCat> tks
[03:53] <Howdy125> yw
[03:53] <apokryphos> FireCat: in the faq ;-)
[03:53] <slackern> [0x90] : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15526 you can have a look there.
[03:54] <u01p2101> danfg: copy icons in /usr/share/.... / .,, /
[03:54] <[0x90] > thanks man :)
[03:54] <bernard_tux> Hello everybody
[03:54] !lilo:*! per freenode channel move policy, various debian channels which have been moved to OFTC are being closed....thanks to everyone in the Debian project for using the network, and we wish you well in your future endeavors
[03:54] <slackern> [0x90] : hardware ethernet 00:00:00:00:00:00; needs to be changed to the correct mac for the machine getting the adresses, same with router and nameservers
[03:54] <danfg> u01p2101: the programs still use the ugly ones on their windows and taskbar
[03:54] <apokryphos> bernard_tux: hi
[03:55] <[0x90] > slackern, how do i get mine mac address?
[03:55] <[0x90] > i am using an crossover cable to connect to mine xbox
[03:55] <bernard_tux> does someone know the differences btw ubuntu iso of cdrom and dvd ?
[03:55] <AK8> hi people, I'm working to get xgl up and I just modified a /xsessions desktop config file, and now thunar (I'm using xubuntu) says it's "suspected malware."
[03:55] <slackern> [0x90] : well on what machine do you want you mac adress?
[03:55] <ronzo> bernard_tux, the DVD has more on it
[03:55] <slackern> [0x90] : phone
[03:55] <[0x90] > slackern, on mine
[03:56] <AK8> I think it needs to be executable, but chmod 755 doesn't seem to change the malware designation
[03:56] <[0x90] > ok
[03:56] <spine55> does anyone have display sleep working with xgl?
[03:56] <AK8> will it be able to run if I start that session?
[03:57] <u01p2101> rename firefox.png to enother, and save your icon as firefox.png
[03:58] <danfg> u01p2101: i'll try that, thanks :)
[03:58] <psypher246> hey everybody. i hope someone can help me with a software raid problem
[03:58] <ic56> Wow! the synergy package *rocks*!  I've got two computers with separate displays controlled by the keyboard/mouse of the first computer!
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> 'oh the humanity.. of an ugly icon!' :P
[03:58] <kieranDOA> lol.
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> ic56,  yep - it can be handy
[03:58] <Lord_Pall> psypher - Maybe. I've been fighting with software raid for 2days
[03:59] <Lord_Pall> no progress, but i can empathize
[03:59] <ic56> Dr_Willis: do you use it?
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> ic56,  i had it on my laptop.. then when upstairs witht he laptop wonderd why the mouse kept moveing.. (wife was downstairs on the other pc)
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:59] <kieranDOA> Hehe
[03:59] <jc-denton> http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Devel:Setting_Default_Soundcard
[03:59] <jc-denton> i ask again
[03:59] <ic56> Dr_Willis: hilarious!
[03:59] <jc-denton> i also tought about asking on the mailing list but for such a simple question it's not needed
[03:59] <kieranDOA> i remember i had a tablet pluged in, And the mouse kept going back to where it is on the tablet i was like ARRRGH
[03:59] <jc-denton> what happens if i choose a different sound card here
[04:00] <jc-denton> is that related to esd or alsa
[04:00] <u01p2101> danfg: send me please your variant of firefox icon
[04:00] <InterNut> *nag* (; im running xfce4 on my "server", when i try to add the applet "network monitor" and enters the device "eth0" i get an error "interface was not found" and thats the device im using, should it say something else there?
[04:00] <Lord_Pall> okay i have to reboot and try something
[04:00] <Lord_Pall> back in bit
[04:01] <psypher246> cool. i have 2 pc's one with a 5 disk raid 5 array running centos 4 with a 386 kernel. is it possible to move that array over to a new bigger server running dual p3 and running the smp kernel on ubuntu dapper
[04:01] <psypher246> and ofcourse keeping all the data and the raid intact
[04:01] <psypher246> i have simulated the whole thing in vmware but cannot get ubuntu to detct the raid properly
[04:01] <rigonatti> hi pals !!
[04:01] <Gistybit> God i feel so stupid right now, but i just ran mkfs -t vfat on a harddrive containing all my data. How would one go about restoring this data, without restoring to another disk? (since i don't have any other disk which matches it in capacity)
[04:01] <rigonatti> is tehe captive the best options to write in NTFS files
[04:02] <danfg> u01p2101: http://soeren-weber.net/data/2005/09/06/firefox.png
[04:02] <rigonatti> is the captive the best options to write in NTFS files
[04:02] <orbin> rigonatti: it doesn't work w/ ubuntu apparently
[04:03] <ic56> Gistybit: you mean you overwrote your data and want to want to reconstruct it?
[04:03] <mathieu_> vmware + smbfs is a safe bet... but it takes alot of resources :)
[04:03] <slackern> [0x90] : sorry friend got harddrive crash so helping him on phone.
[04:03] <Gistybit> ic56: i dont think it's overwritten.. because mkfs probably just ran a "quickformat"
[04:04] <rigonatti> orbin: do you know some solution to ?
[04:04] <[0x90] > :O
[04:04] <AK8> I have another challange for you guys: I have NTFS, I reformat into ext3. Now, since they're really only writing a partition table... the data is still *theoretically* there, right? :)
[04:04] <danfg> u01p2101: http://soeren-weber.net/data/2005/09/06/thunderbird.png
[04:04] <pookey> hey all. what's happend to 'apt-setup' ?  how do I configured ubuntu to use online sources rather hten my CD media?
[04:04] <orbin> rigonatti: ext3 + fs-driver in windows, or fat32
[04:04] <[0x90] > slackern, how do i download the server?
[04:04] <[0x90] > i did apt-get install dhcp
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> pookey,  edit the sources.list and comment out the cdrom
[04:04] <orbin> ubotu: tell pookey about sources
[04:05] <rigonatti> I dont really want to use fat32
[04:05] <isildur> can anyone tell me the difference between fglrx-driver and xorg-driver-flgrx?
[04:05] <rigonatti> i mean ..its a waste of clusters and all .
[04:05] <[0x90] > slackern, can i pm you?
[04:05] <ic56> AK8: no. formatting has nothing to do with the partition table.  It has to do with creating the inode tables, free lists, root directory and so on.  As a result, *many* *many* sectors were overwritten when you formatted the partition with ext3 filesystem
[04:06] <Lord_Pall> so testing grub yet again
[04:06] <pookey> oh, why was apt-setup removed? :)
[04:06] <guiba> thanks
[04:06] <AK8> ic56: I see...
[04:06] <Lord_Pall> by booting off the ide, but in the menu.lst swapping hd0 and hd1
[04:06] <Lord_Pall> to see if that works
[04:06] <Lord_Pall> take bets
[04:06] <Lord_Pall> holy fuck it did
[04:06] <Lord_Pall> WOOOOH
[04:06] <rigonatti> orbin: this should work ??? http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-ntfs/
[04:06] <Lord_Pall> what a pain
[04:06] <avis> file-roller does not seem to be in my menus in gnome.  how can i add it to accessories ?
[04:07] <ic56> Gistybit: I don't know what a quickformat is.  Perhaps you are right.  However,  even if that is the case, you will still have a lot of work to refind your files, since at the very least the root directory is gone.  You'll need a filesystem editor that is aware of VFAT.
[04:07] <orbin> rigonatti: that doesn't provide write access
[04:07] <ompaul> Lord_Pall, less of the language please - it is a G rated channel, and please don't use enterh after one line with two words in it, put in all your thoughts on one line
[04:08] <orbin> rigonatti: and it's already installed...you can mount an ntfs partition no?
[04:08] <Lord_Pall> oops. Sorry about that. Excessive jubilance due to resolving a 2 day old issue
[04:08] <kieranDOA> G rated?
[04:09] <burepe2> I got crazy networking problems. Can someone hold my hand and walk me through it. Here are details, kinda http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194056
[04:09] <CrippsFX> yeah. rated G for Ghey
[04:09] <CrippsFX> :P
[04:09] <thoreauputic> avis: check out the menu editor - you can probably jsut check the box for it in that
[04:09] <orbin> kieranDOA: yep. so put that back in your pants please :P
[04:09] <kieranDOA> No no, What i s 'G' Rated?
[04:09] <Scorpmoon> I'm going to run dualboot Ubuntu/Vista.. Installing Vista first.. Is it ok for me, to setup my partition using Vista's partition app?
[04:09] <kieranDOA> Is that some kind of american rating system?
[04:09] <thoreauputic> avis: I think it would be under system tools though
[04:09] <psypher246> Gistybit: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Ext2fs-Undeletion-4.html
[04:09] <kieranDOA> Crazy americans.
[04:09] <apokryphos> Scorpmoon: yes; if not, shrink it later with Ubuntu
[04:10] <Gistybit> ic56: hm .. ok
[04:10] <Gistybit> psypher246: thx.. ill take a look at it
[04:10] <Scorpmoon> ok
[04:10] <Scorpmoon> should both the Vista and the Ubuntu partition be primary?
[04:11] <Ignite> does anyone know what happened to amarok-gstreamer?
[04:11] <CrippsFX> burepe2, for future refeence, including only the relevant info makes it a lot easier to look through.
[04:11] <ic56> Scorpmoon: Linux doesn't care whether its partitions are primary or not.
[04:11] <Hobbsee> Ignite: replaced by amarok-xine
[04:11] <burepe2> oh the dmesg?
[04:11] <Scorpmoon> ic56, what would you choose
[04:11] <Ignite> Hobbsee, they can co-exist.. can't they?
[04:11] <Hobbsee> Ignite: they should do...
[04:12] <ic56> Scorpmoon, I choose primary partitions for the root filesystem of each OS.  Just so I know where to look for it when things are broken.
[04:12] <sladen> psypher246 / Gistybit: you can't undelete on ext3
[04:12] <avis> thank you so much thoreauputic you always are so kind
[04:13] <avis> ls
[04:13] <thoreauputic> avis: no problem :)
[04:13] <avis> sorry
[04:13] <avis> thank you
[04:13] <Ignite> does anyone know how i can get mp3 support in xine?
[04:13] <Scorpmoon> ic56, I have one harddisk... 160gb, how many partitions do I make? 1 for Ubuntu, 1 for Vista, and 1 vFat for sharing files between them.. Don't I need a small partition for GRUB loader?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> !tell Ignite about mp3
[04:13] <apokryphos> Ignite: please read the FAQ first :)
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Ignite: install libxine-extracodecs
[04:13] <Ignite> thanks :D
[04:14] <neutrinomass> psypher246: (I wasn't in the room so I didn't see your question) What sort of data have you lost and how important is it ?
[04:14] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: It's not neccessary. It's a good idea to break the Linux installation in 3 parts, a / partition, a small swap and a /home .
[04:14] <Gistybit> sladen: Okay, but the data originally written on the drive, was written through ext2 and not ext3, even though the data is ext3.. ( i know this is against the purpose of journalling)
[04:14] <ic56> Scorpmoon: grub doesn't need its own partition.  However, the more important question, is how do you do backups.  Since in both Linux and Windows, 1 partition = 1 filesystem and since, typically one does backups on a per-filesystem basis, you need your partitions to be small enough that they will fit in your backup media.
[04:15] <Gistybit> sladen: i figure, since the drive has not been reformatted, i could restore the partition table, and just flip all the inodes back from its "deleted" state
[04:15] <Scorpmoon> newtrinomass... for now (being inside Vista's partitioner) it is sufficient to make one big partition for Ubuntu.. and let Ubuntu divide that partition in 3 itself, right?
[04:15] <Scorpmoon> if that's at all possible
[04:15] <Weirdbro> Firefox crashes when I close a tab with a Youtube movie. Why would that happen?
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Scorpmoon: just leave free unformatted space for Ubuntu
[04:16] <Scorpmoon> ic56, I do backups per file/folder.. i never do a full copy
[04:16] <Scorpmoon> thoreaputic, ahh
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Scorpmoon: by default the installer just uses / and swap
[04:16] <akudewan> hi, I'm going to do a dist-upgrade, but it says that it is going to REMOVE some packages. These include openoffice and KDE, and I need them. Why is it going to remove these packages ?
[04:17] <ic56> Scorpmoon: the other consideration is the possibility of corruption.  The bigger teh filessytem, the more things you will lose if it becomes corrupt (eg due to a power failure of disk crash).
[04:17] <thoreauputic> akudewan: to replace them with newer versions :)
[04:17] <thoreauputic> akudewan: look at the list - you should see thatthey will be replaced
[04:17] <Scorpmoon> i'm not too worried of having to reinstall an OS.. it's mainly my data (media, projects, etc.) I need safe
[04:17] <apokryphos> akudewan: please make sure that you are following the upgrade instructions properly (FAQ).
[04:18] <apokryphos> akudewan: otherwise you can quite easily bork your system
[04:18] <joseduenas> hi everybody
[04:18] <apokryphos> hello
[04:18] <pradeep> ji joseduenas
[04:18] <pradeep> hi*
[04:18] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: That's why I suggested a seperate / and /home partition. You can swap distros without any hassle :)
[04:18] <Subhuman> Scorpmoon, in that case, make your /home a separate partiton, so the backup is jus a simple copy the partion, and reinstalling the OS wont affectr that partion.
[04:18] <akudewan> yes, I'm following the instructions from the wiki
[04:18] <akudewan> I can see openoffice being upgraded, but not KDE
[04:19] <apokryphos> akudewan: are you sure you followed them exactly, if you're doing a dist-upgrade?
[04:19] <apokryphos> akudewan: my bet is you didn't :). Are you making sure that you have the necessary metapackages installed FIRST?
[04:19] <joseduenas> anybody knows something about sop? ( TV P2P )
[04:19] <sladen> Gistybit: you maybe able to.  It will not be easy to.  There are utilities that I've used in the past to both (a) reconstruct the partition table and (b) undelete ext2 data
[04:19] <Scorpmoon> okay... except I thought I could just use a seperate partition for files, and not depend on using /home for my own files
[04:19] <sladen> Gistybit: I've also done evilness like just searching the raw contents of the disk
[04:20] <thoreauputic> Scorpmoon: /home/youruser is for your files
[04:20] <ic56> Scorpmoon: would those files be owned or used by anyone but yourself?  If not, then why would you put them anywhere besides your homedir?!
[04:20] <thoreauputic> Scorpmoon: you can make /home a separate partition (manually)
[04:21] <Scorpmoon> I want /home to be on another physical harddisk... but I don't have this disk ready yet.. can I install just / and swap, and then mount /home on a seperate partition later?
[04:21] <apokryphos> Scorpmoon: yup, exactly.
[04:21] <Gistybit> sladen: okay. can you give me the names of the utilities to do (a) and (b) (b) only if not covered in the guide you linked to)
[04:21] <apokryphos> Scorpmoon: very easy to do, too; just need to edit your fstab and copy the files over.
[04:21] <akudewan> apokryphos: yes, I have installed ubuntu-desktop, I have changed the repository as specified, I have checked the md5sum of the "alternate" iso that I downloaded, I have added the cdrom to the repository, I have mounted the iso, and now I'm doing a dist-upgrade.
[04:21] <psypher246> does anybody know lots about software raid? Lord_Pall, u still there?
[04:21] <joseduenas> i'm trying to watch tv p2p with sopgui.. with ubuntu dapper
[04:21] <apokryphos> akudewan: but have you got kubuntu-desktop installed, as well?
[04:21] <sladen> Gistybit: apt-cache search undelete
[04:22] <apokryphos> akudewan: if you have KDE installed, you need it.
[04:22] <akudewan> apokryphos: I see, I'll do that
[04:22] <Scorpmoon> thx
[04:22] <neutrinomass> sladen: A guy in here recovered his data with that evilness a couple of days ago :)
[04:22] <apokryphos> akudewan: you'll need to change your sources.list back to make sure it doesn't try to get the dapper kubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <akudewan> allright, I have an old copy. thanks :)
[04:23] <sladen> Gistybit: try 'gpart' for guessing the partition table
[04:23] <sladen> neutrinomass: it's definately worth doing if that's the only way
[04:23] <rigonatti> hey ....if install Ubuntu (gnome) can I change to KDE without any troubles latter ?
[04:23] <sladen> Gistybit: and maybe 'testdisk'
[04:24] <apokryphos> rigonatti: yup, see FAQ
[04:24] <neutrinomass> sladen: AFAIK it's the best shot you've got with ext3 ... ext2 could do undelete I think, but not ext3 :(
[04:24] <sladen> Gistybit: (  apt-get cache search partition | grep -i partition)
[04:24] <sladen> neutrinomass: correct;  ext3 journaling works by zero'ing the data that ext2 undelete looks for
[04:24] <Gistybit> sladen: okay.. thx a bunch :)
[04:25] <TigerWolf> In Alternative CD - what is the difference between txt mode and OEM mode?
[04:25] <thoreauputic> sladen: did you mean apt-cache search ?
[04:25] <kallei_> i get this error trying to start skype on x86_64 :  ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:25] <thoreauputic> sladen: the other one will just spit out an error :)
[04:26] <kallei_> where is it looking for the libGL.so.1 ?
[04:26] <kandinski> oh hi sladen
[04:26] <sladen> TigerWolf: OEM mode for installing 100's of identical machines.  It's a two stage install where you do the install, customise it, make lots of copies of the hard-disk image;    On first boot, the user will then be asked for their account name, machine name---eg. all the 'individual' data
[04:26] <sladen> kandinski: hi there
[04:27] <sladen> kandinski: aahhh, it's a Javier!
[04:28] <Mr> Hey :)
[04:28] <Lord_Pall> oh wait
[04:28] <Lord_Pall> it's cuz i'm doing it wrong. Scratch that
[04:28] <Sharcho> What's the easiest way to create a chrooted (OpenSSH) SFTP user?
[04:29] <sladen> Sharcho: set their shell to 'rssh'
[04:29] <_Mr_Denix_> great I managed to change it after all ! :P hello guys. glad to be in the same spot
[04:29] <TigerWolf> sladen: I have only used the live CD GUI install - is text mode easy to do? Is there a guide?
[04:29] <sladen> Sharcho: or to 'scponly'
[04:29] <Subhuman> TigerWolf, the text install is very easy
[04:29] <Subhuman> as easy as the gui isntall
[04:29] <TigerWolf> ty
[04:30] <theiosKostas> hi guys! how can i write to my fat32 usb mobile disk? when it is mounted it is read only...
[04:30] <jUggERNAUt1980> AAA!!
[04:30] <nicolas__> did anyone experienced unplayablity with zsnes  under dapper ?
[04:30] <ronzo> chmod
[04:30] <Subhuman> theiosKostas, yes you should be able to no problem
[04:30] <jUggERNAUt1980> my wireless is all screwy and i don't know what to do!!
[04:30] <Sharcho> sladen, thanks
[04:30] <ronzo> jUggERNAUt1980, how is it screwy?
[04:30] <sladen> jUggERNAUt1980: move closer to the access-point
[04:31] <Ignite> theiosKostas, sometimes there are small switches on usb drives that allow you to make it read only
[04:31] <jUggERNAUt1980> it won't remain consistent.
[04:31] <marta> ciao
[04:32] <jUggERNAUt1980> i was just in a place with a wireless network and i could see the signal at 100%, but then my linux dropped the connection and wouldn't find any other networks.
[04:32] <TigerWolf> Is there an image burning program already installed on dapper? If not what is a good one to use/get
[04:32] <jUggERNAUt1980> including the one i was already connected to.
[04:32] <Hobbsee> TigerWolf: gnomebaker?
[04:32] <renssie> #ubuntu-nl
[04:32] <Almindor> is it possible to upgrade from hoary to dapper?
[04:32] <Almindor> directly I mean
[04:33] <LjL> i wouldn't try it
[04:33] <Ignite> TigerWolf, try K3B, its designed for KDE but its very good, also i've heard good things about GNOME Baker i think its called
[04:33] <Subhuman> Almindor, yes probably.
[04:33] <Almindor> Ignite, gnome-baker is nice
[04:33] <TigerWolf> thanks guys
[04:33] <Almindor> oook
[04:33] <Subhuman> Almindor, if you do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:33] <TigerWolf> installing gnome baker now
[04:33] <Ignite> i think i will do that same
[04:33] <Ignite> :D
[04:33] <jUggERNAUt1980> so then i came over to the bastard's house so i could plug in to his network, and he also has wireless.  i should be able to see that network, but it didn't register anything.
[04:34] <kapputu> If there is a page with a search box on it, Firefox automatically transfer focus to it when the page is loaded. If you try to use the down arrow key to scroll down the page, you can't since the text box has the focus. This is very annoying
[04:34] <neutrinomass> sladen: Do you happen to have a minute or so? I'm the reporter of bug 36353 so if any further information is needed, please say so :)
[04:34] <ronzo> jUggERNAUt1980, do you have kismet installed?
[04:34] <Subhuman> kapputu, i dont experience that behavior, but how is this a ubuntu issue? it is a firefox one and there is no point complaining here :D
[04:34] <jUggERNAUt1980> no, what's kismet?
[04:34] <sladen> bug #36353
[04:34] <ronzo> jUggERNAUt1980, you can also do it from the terminal
[04:35] <kapputu> Subhuman, because this doesn't happen in Windows?
[04:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> i would like to do it from the terminal.
[04:35] <ronzo> do you know the ESSID?
[04:35] <jUggERNAUt1980> yup!
[04:35] <ic56> !tell Almindor about upgrade
[04:35] <ronzo> ok, run this
[04:35] <ronzo> sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[04:35] <_Mr_Denix_>  /join #ubuntu.ro
[04:35] <MatthiasM> how can I chnage the screen resolution higher then 1024x768 ? I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 inside VMware
[04:35] <TigerWolf> Subhuman: /join #firefox
[04:35] <kapputu> Subhuman, if you can't help I'd advise you to keep your mouth shut
[04:35] <ronzo> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid <name>
[04:35] <Subhuman> kapputu, well that doesnt automatically mean linux, this is a firefox issue, maybe asking in '#firefox will help
[04:35] <thoreauputic> !tell MatthiasM about fixres
[04:35] <ronzo> sudo iwconfig eth1 key <key>
[04:35] <ic56> Almindor: you cannot upgrade from hoary directly to breezy.  Must do it as two steps.
[04:35] <TigerWolf> u mean the other guy...
[04:36] <thoreauputic> ic56: umm - you mean hoary -> dapper
[04:36] <Subhuman> TigerWolf, i dont need the help, kapputu does, but if hes going to get snappy he wont be getting any more help from me
[04:36] <TigerWolf> kapputu: : /join #firefox
[04:36] <thoreauputic> ic56: hoary -> breezy is one step
[04:36] <TigerWolf> yea - i read it wrong Subhuman - its good now
[04:36] <ic56> thorauputic, Almindor. Yes, sorry.
[04:37] <Almindor> hoary -> dapper was my question
[04:37] <Almindor> ok I'll tell him to go one by one
[04:37] <jUggERNAUt1980> thanks for that!  what's kismet now?
[04:37] <thoreauputic> Almindor: two steps - yes one at a time
[04:37] <Almindor> that's about a gb d/l eh? :)
[04:37] <LjL> it's already complicated enough to upgrade from breezy to dapper...
[04:37] <jUggERNAUt1980> if i type those commands you gave me right now, it'll take me offline for a few.
[04:37] <_Mr_Denix_> hello. isn't this the proper way to join a channel ?   " /join #ubuntu.ro  "
[04:38] <LjL> yes
[04:38] <LjL> without the leading space
[04:38] <_Mr_Denix_> and whyd oes it end like this ?  No channel joined. Try /join #<channel>
[04:38] <TigerWolf> yes
[04:38] <thoreauputic> LjL: gksudo "update-manager -d" is complicated ?
[04:38] <Subhuman> _Mr_Denix_, that is correct, but its more likely to be #ubuntu-ro
[04:38] <ronzo> kk
[04:38] <nicolas__> anyone has a clue to debug an snes emulator, zsnes and snes9x are running incredibly slow and without sound, the rest of the system is ok
[04:38] <LjL> thoreauputic: no, if it works
[04:38] <_Mr_Denix_> ok thanks Subhuman. on the site its ubuntu.ro
[04:39] <Tobberoth> When i double click the executable for blueJ, it asks if I want to display (which shows me the "source") or start in terminal.
[04:39] <gavagai> on the ubuntu wiki it says to start a full blown root shell use "sudo -i".  what's the difference between that and "sudo bash"?
[04:39] <Tobberoth> Start in terminal starts the program and all great, but leaves a terminal in the background..
[04:39] <Tobberoth> Anyway to execute it without the terminal?
[04:39] <Subhuman> gavagai, none really.
[04:39] <LjL> thoreauputic: besides the fact that i'm using kubuntu, so update-manager is not there, but that's not even the point
[04:39] <Subhuman> Tobberoth, add "&" at the end
[04:39] <Tobberoth> ah, thank you
[04:39] <nicolas__> Tobberoth: alt-f2 in the default gnome open a run command window
[04:40] <Subhuman> so like "sudo updatedb &" will update the search index in the background"
[04:40] <nicolas__> Subhuman: even if you add & and close the terminal the process will shutdown
[04:40] <jUggERNAUt1980> the big part of it is that sometimes it won't acknowledge that there are networks in range and iwlist eth1 scan turns up no results, when i know that i'm in a hotspot.
[04:40] <CrazyDoode_> silly question (1st of the day) - when i down load linux-source-2.6.15 using synaptic, why does it just leave the tarball in /usr/src and doesn't untar it? (lots of disk space)
[04:40] <nicolas__> Tobberoth: & will only enable you to continue using this same terminal
[04:40] <gavagai> Subhuman, thanks
[04:40] <_Mr_Denix_> ok ... still not working (i have to appologyze for my questions. it's my first time on linux and on ubuntu ) now it says "  Not connected. Try /server <host> [<port>]  "
[04:40] <Tobberoth> Oh..
[04:40] <Tobberoth> that's not what i want hehe
[04:40] <nicolas__> Tobberoth: use the run command window dialog in gnome
[04:40] <Tobberoth> allright, I'll try
[04:41] <nicolas__> Tobberoth: or add your command in your gnome menus
[04:41] <selinium> anyone in here use typo3?
[04:41] <Subhuman> nicolas__, are you sure? i always use & to fork to the background
[04:41] <thoreauputic> ;)
[04:41] <nicolas__> Subhuman: try closing the terminal
[04:42] <Tobberoth> thanks nicolas__, that worked great :)
[04:42] <selinium> thoreauputic: i know, i know..... :)
[04:42] <jUggERNAUt1980> the iwconfig commands did not turn up anything, and that's screwed because i'm sitting right next to his wireless router.  can't get much closer unless i want to set my laptop on it.
[04:42] <thoreauputic> selinium: I know you know... ;-)
[04:42] <thoreauputic> selinium: hence larting ;)
[04:42] <renssie> zijn er ook nederlanders hiero
[04:42] <thoreauputic> heheh
[04:42] <nicolas__> Subhuman: you can use ctrl-z to put processes in background then close the terminal, then open a new one then type "fg" to get bac your app
[04:42] <selinium> s/konw/know
[04:42] <adamant1988> does anyone here like playing RPGs?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> !nl
[04:43] <renssie> i do
[04:43] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[04:43] <Subhuman> adamant1988, yes why?
[04:43] <renssie> ja tuulk nl
[04:43] <adamant1988> Because I'm looking for a good free MMORPG to play on my Ubuntu systems
[04:43] <nicolas__> Subhuman: can you confirm ? im at my job right now without any decent os
[04:43] <Subhuman> oh i dont play mmo's.
[04:43] <adamant1988> Well MMOs pass more time
[04:43] <TigerWolf> adamant1988: - yes - #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:43] <Subhuman> nicolas__, ill try one now
[04:43] <nicolas__> adamant1988: apt-cache search mmorpg
[04:43] <renssie> ik kan niet in de ubuntu nl server
[04:43] <selinium> adamant1988: www.eternal-lands.com
[04:43] <adamant1988> but regular RPGs are fine as well.
[04:43] <MatthiasM> What is the default root password - I only entered a password for my user at instalation time
[04:43] <thoreauputic> !root
[04:43] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:44] <LjL> renssie: "/join #ubuntu-nl" should work
[04:44] <LjL> renssie: works for me, in any case
[04:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> renssie:  ik voon in america
[04:44] <Ignite> MatthiasM, there is none, you can set one with "sudo passwd root"
[04:44] <thoreauputic> !tell MatthiasM about sudo
[04:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> :P
[04:44] <nicolas__> MatthiasM: you got to set one, sudo passwd
[04:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> can anybody tell me what kismet is:
[04:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> ?
[04:44] <MatthiasM> thanks
[04:44] <thoreauputic> nico8481: no you don't need to
[04:44] <Subhuman> yes nicolas__ if i use & it gets forked to the background, i shut the terminal, open it, and do a "ps -e" and it is listed
[04:44] <thoreauputic> bah nicolas__
[04:45] <selinium> thoreauputic: ever since upgrading to dapper, update-manager no longer shows the changes. Is it just me?
[04:45] <_Mr_Denix_> could someone help me with a tar.gz file please ?
[04:45] <thoreauputic> wrong tabbing
[04:45] <nicolas__> Subhuman: what did you run ?
[04:45] <adamant1988> Sorry Tiger
[04:45] <Subhuman> mbmon
[04:45] <thoreauputic> selinium: hmm - seems to work here
[04:45] <adamant1988> ok next question, could anyone here tell me what would cause my 3d acceleration to fail when I restart the xserver?
[04:45] <thoreauputic> selinium: but i'm in fluxbox as usual so I can't really check
[04:45] <LjL> Ignite, nicolas__: why do you suggest that he set a root password, rather than pointing him to the document that explains why none is set by default?
[04:45] <nicolas__> Subhuman: what if you open a terminal and type in gnome-terminal &, then close that window and see if the other one is still open
[04:45] <renssie> met welk programa kun je downloaden
[04:45] <Ignite> jUggERNAUt1980, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kismet_(program)
[04:46] <thoreauputic> selinium: besides, I usually run apt-get update myself :)
[04:46] <nicolas__> LjL: because i disagree
[04:46] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: What sort of help ? You can untar it with "tar xzf blah.tar.gz" (or with file-roller, from gnome )
[04:46] <Ignite> LjL, why is there none set by default?
[04:46] <LjL> MatthiasM: please do read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo, and think twice - and ask any questions you still have here - before you decide to set a root password
[04:46] <Subhuman> yep nicolas__ , the other one remains open....
[04:46] <renssie> whit whits program kan yoou downloadn music
[04:46] <jUggERNAUt1980> thanks ignite!
[04:46] <LjL> Ignite: see the document above
[04:46] <Ignite> jUggERNAUt1980, any time
[04:46] <Ignite> LjL, ok thanks
[04:47] <thoreauputic> nicolas__: that isn't relevant really - he should read the document and make up his own mind
[04:47] <LjL> nicolas__: i disagree with many things, and yet i still mention their existence when they're relevant
[04:47] <selinium> thoreauputic: so do i, but sometimes I like to see why they are being updated...
[04:47] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass i have extracted the file and now I am on terminal in the extracted directory . i have no ideea what to do next. my knowledge in unbuntu and linux in general is only 2 hours old
[04:47] <thoreauputic> selinium: apt-listchanges
[04:47] <Subhuman> nicolas__, it jus gives me itz process number like "[1]  17734" and opens the new terminal ,shut the original window and the new one remains.
[04:47] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Why are you compiling a kernel again ?
[04:47] <Novato> kk
[04:47] <sp3tt> Someone needs to stap the motherfucking idiot responsible for ruby on ubuntu in the face
[04:47] <renssie> met welk programma kun je downloadne
[04:47] <nicolas__> Subhuman: hrm.. well i dont know what to say :P i believe you but ill have to try it again at home :P
[04:47] <sp3tt> I volunteer.
[04:47] <LjL> sp3tt: sorry?
[04:48] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass i have no ideea what you're talking about !
[04:48] <selinium> thoreauputic: cheers, I should have asked that question first! :)
[04:48] <Subhuman> lol okay nicolas__ , & is the way i have always done it XD
[04:48] <thoreauputic> selinium: :)
[04:48] <sp3tt> Oh, just the fact that it's totally fucking impossible to get rails working on ubuntu.
[04:48] <sp3tt> Nothing big.
[04:48] <thoreauputic> !language
[04:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:48] <sp3tt> I'm not exactly happy after two hours of fruitless debugging.
[04:49] <nicolas__> what is rails ?
[04:49] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Lol, sorry, I got confused with somebody else commenting on how the kernel is not unpacked. Well, what are you trying to do (i.e. why did you extract the file) ?
[04:49] <thoreauputic> sp3tt: no more,  unless you like being gagged
[04:49] <prxq> I'd say if it is impossible to get rails to work on ubuntu, it is more rails & ruby's fault, but YMMV
[04:49] <LjL> renssie: download what? if you want a general downloader, try "wget" from the console or perhaps freeloader or aria if you want a gui
[04:49] <MatthiasM> thoreauputic: thanks - display resolution is now ok
[04:50] <thoreauputic> MatthiasM: cool :)
[04:50] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass thanks for your patience to this simple matters of mine. i read in the instructions written file that i have to extract the archieve in order to install it (i'm trying to install xmms)
[04:50] <Bassetts> i tried to change the usplash, but now i havent got one
[04:51] <nanenj> I accidentally deleted my top panel in gnome, is there a way to restore default configuration?
[04:51] <nicolas__> Bassetts: there is something called, splashscreen-manager or something
[04:51] <nicolas__> nanenj: you can also right click and add a new panel
[04:51] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: sudo update-alternatives usplash-artwork.so && sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) if I recall correctly
[04:51] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: N/p, I'm here to help, if I can. You generally want to avoid installing software "from source" as much as possible. If you want to install a package, always check first the Ubuntu archives. For example, you can install XMMS from "Synaptic".
[04:52] <gavagai> _Mr_Denix_, you downloaded and extracted a file in order to install xmms?
[04:52] <nicolas__> nanenj: resetting the config is done by rm -rf ~/.gnome*
[04:52] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: oops that needs a --config
[04:52] <gavagai> _Mr_Denix_, that is a method of last resort only
[04:52] <Bassetts> i did the howto on the forum
[04:52] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass : yes  ! i have down xmms.tar.gz
[04:52] <nanenj> nicolas__: thanks :) if that's what it takes to get the default back then I'm ok with that :)
[04:52] <nanenj> -tries-
[04:52] <_Mr_Denix_> i c
[04:52] <Bassetts> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835
[04:53] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: You donwloaded it from the xmms.org site I guess? Take a look in synaptic.
[04:53] <gavagai> _Mr_Denix_, that is the source code.  you want to install an ubuntu binary.  you can install xmms from a terminal with 'apt-get install xmms'  or use synaptic.
[04:53] <LjL> nicolas__: perhaps that's not necessarily what he wants, since he was probably only asking about how to restore the *panel*
[04:53] <gavagai> _Mr_Denix_, sorry, 'sudo apt-get install xmms'
[04:53] <_Mr_Denix_> ok trying now
[04:53] <LjL> "rm -rf ~/.gnome*" is probably not something that should be adviced lightly
[04:53] <oezguer> hi everybodyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[04:54] <_Mr_Denix_> it prompted me for my root pass and further more did nothing
[04:54] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: You need to have a good reason to install from source usually. Stuff varies from distribution to distribution and source code is just too "generic". Ubuntu developers build the package for you so that you can install it easily and avoid troubles during upgrades ;)
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: ah, that's different - don't know
[04:54] <oezguer> i installed totem tv but how can i watch tv like at  winamp?  need some streamer or anythign to watch tv at totem???
[04:54] <CrippsFX> is it safe to hotswap SCSI drives?
[04:54] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass i thing i got your point about the packages in general. still doesn't work for me
[04:54] <Almindor> anyone here got totem working with .mov?
[04:54] <nanenj> LjL, should I say oops?  There's really no settings I had -anywhere- that were that big. :)  If all else fails, I can delete nanenj and recreate my account :P  so... didn't seem that big :P
[04:54] <tomas_> hi guys I have a serious problem here. I need to convert my mysql dump to ISO-8159 and its currently in UTF-8
[04:54] <nanenj> but, unfortunately, it didn't work
[04:55] <void^> CrippsFX: read the controller's manual
[04:55] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass could we private please ?
[04:55] <gavagai> _Mr_Denix_, enter your own password
[04:55] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Sure, no problem .
[04:55] <tomas_> I get some serious problems with swedish characterts atm
[04:55] <nanenj> the panel is still blank (first try I attempted copying the gconf etc from another user.)
[04:55] <Tobberoth> would the debian gnu-linux bible do just as good as ubuntu linux bible?
[04:55] <oezguer> i installed totem tv but how can i watch tv like at  winamp?  need some streamer or anythign to watch tv at totem???
[04:55] <nanenj> and the panel showed up blank.  Can't seem to get it to change :(  does it require a full reboot and not just a restart of gnome to get it to read that?
[04:56] <LjL> nanenj: if that's ok for you, then fine. it's just that you might not even had known what that command would have done, and you might have fallen under the impression that it simpyl reset the panel's configuration -- while, clearly, it can do a bit more than just that
[04:56] <CrippsFX> hehehe ... nope.
[04:56] <nanenj> LjL, :) -nods- I see :) I did figure it would ice all customizations, it just seems it hasn't even done that. :P so I'm left a little lost :P
[04:56] <LjL> nanenj: doesn't surprise me that removing the gnome config dirs would blank the panel...
[04:57] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Did you receive my PM? I'm having trouble with private talks lately ...
[04:57] <LjL> nanenj: perhaps you *could* indeed recreate the user at this point, if you don't have any specific things you need to keep
[04:57] <MatthiasM> is there a Java 1.5 version (from Sun) available for Ubuntu ?
[04:57] <LjL> !javadebs
[04:57] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[04:57] <nanenj> It didn't blank them, just the top one (which I accidentally deleted) shows up now, but is blank
[04:57] <Tobberoth> MatthiasM: Yes.
[04:57] <gavagai> _Mr_Denix_, you need to try again.  you didn't make it clear what happened.  use your password.  if it doesn't work you have to say more---say the error message.
[04:57] <nanenj> the bottom one is indeed still default.
[04:57] <nanenj> So -ponder-
[04:58] <nanenj> I'd imagine the settings have to be -somewhere- I just don't know how to get them back... is there maybe a script that initializes new users?
[04:58] <weedar> Does Ubuntu have the same installer-issue with manual partitioning as Kubuntu has?
[04:58] <nanenj> Maybe I could run that on my existing account to get it to reset the account back to normal?
[04:58] <LjL> nanenj: when a new user is created, the home dir is taken from /etc/skel. not sure if there's anything else being created after that
[04:58] <prxq> weedar: what issues are these?
[04:59] <nanenj> LjL, thanks, I'll look there :)
[04:59] <_Mr_Denix_> gavagai i did use my pass and exactly NOTHING happend . it just resumed to the state it was before (it was showing the present location I was in i.e. desktop/xmms ...... )
[04:59] <LjL> nanenj: but /etc/skel doesn't really seem to contain anything gnome-related, just basic config files for the shell
[04:59] <sp3tt> I GIVE UP.
[04:59] <sp3tt> Someone explain to me how a fresh install of rails, by the books, cannot work.
[04:59] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass haven't got any pms from you
[05:00] <gavagai> _Mr_Denix_, 'sudo apt-get install xmms', see if nothing happens again
[05:00] <nanenj> LjL, Yeah, i just looked :)  so... let's see... maybe find out where gnome gets it's default settings from...
[05:00] <_Mr_Denix_> gavagai denix@mrdenix:~/Desktop/xmms-1.2.10$ sudo su apt -get install xmms
[05:00] <_Mr_Denix_> Password:
[05:00] <_Mr_Denix_> denix@mrdenix:~/Desktop/xmms-1.2.10$
[05:00] <gavagai> that is not what i told you to type
[05:00] <_Mr_Denix_> that's what happ
[05:00] <babo_> Does this seem normal ?
[05:00] <babo_> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:00] <gavagai> you made two errors
[05:00] <babo_> cdrom is a symbolic link to hda ...
[05:01] <_Mr_Denix_> ok ...
[05:01] <babo_> I'm trying to burn a .avi movie and it doesn't seem to be working ...
[05:01] <sp3tt> Rails on ubuntu is broken.
[05:01] <sp3tt> It just doesn't work.
[05:01] <sp3tt> Simple as that.
[05:01] <sp3tt> Doesn't work. Period.
[05:01] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Must be the trouble I was telling you about. Instead of using 'apt-get' you can resort to synaptic for ease-of-use :)
[05:02] <thoreauputic> sp3tt: check launchpad for bugs
[05:02] <babo_> It seems to work fine when I burn it, but the disk then doesn't seem to have anything on it ... which is strange.
[05:02] <babo_> Can anyone help me out ?
[05:02] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass i would use if i knew what synaptic is and where to get it from (please don't forget only 2 hrs of linux until now lol)
[05:03] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: system - admin - synaptic package manager
[05:03] <sp3tt> thoreauputic: no bugs as far as I can tell.
[05:03] <sp3tt> I installed it, by the books, yet, it won't work.
[05:04] <sp3tt> I LOVE UBUNTU.
[05:04] <ronzo> me 2 =)
[05:04] <thoreauputic> sp3tt: you are trying to use ruby on rails, right? I seem to recall seeing some discussion of problems with that on the lists ( maybe -devel ? )
[05:04] <sp3tt> Notice the huge amounts of irony.
[05:04] <weedar> prxq: During install choosing "manual partitioning" causes a crash - But if I choose non-manual partitioning the installer wants to erase all partitions on the chosen drive :/
[05:04] <babo_> no-one can help ... ?
[05:04] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass ok ! here's another one lol . as in the case of my system updates when i click on synaptic package manager it prompts me for me password I write it and it doesn't do anything ! doens't open any application'
[05:04] <gavagai> weedar, just use an installation disk for breezy or debian to partition and then restart the machine with your dapper disc
[05:05] <blkish> hi all, i'm running ubuntu 6.06 and it's great:) but i seem to have lost the 'shutown' and 'restart' buttons from the 'quit' panel. when i press 'quit' button, it only shows hibernate. any ideas what i have broken? thanks
[05:05] <Scorpmoon> when dual booting vista/ubuntu, does it matter if I install vista first on master or slave? (hda/hdb)
[05:05] <gavagai> the debian testing cd is like a 150mb download so it would be quick
[05:05] <thoreauputic> blkish: check out the power management options under system prefs
[05:06] <weedar> gavagai: actually I already have partitioned correctly, the problem is that the drive in question (hdb) has an ext3 partion, a swap one and a vfat partition - If I choose automatic partition the installer wants to erase the vfat partition :/
[05:06] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Hm.... This is on 6.06 ?
[05:06] <krazykit> Scorpmoon: i was under the impression that windows likes to be on the master drive, but that might be old information.
[05:06] <gavagai> weedar, oh i see.
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Scorpmoon: put it on the first partition of hda
[05:06] <Mipsalawishus> has anyone installed mplayer on 6.06?
[05:06] <Scorpmoon> but it doesnt matter to ubuntu/grub does it
[05:06] <weedar> And I really need it, and since it's 50 gb I can't really back it up easily to DVDs either
[05:06] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass i am awafuly sorry to dissapoint you ! it might be but i don't have a clue lol !
[05:06] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: What happens if you do "sudo synaptic" from the command line ?
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Scorpmoon: windows likes to think it is alone in the universe and other OS es don't exist ;)
[05:06] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) ? Did you download it recently ?
[05:07] <weedar> I would think that alot of others had the samme issue, but ubuntuforums.org doesn't seem to have a fix
[05:07] <blkish> thoreauputic: thanks, that all seems set OK - can't see any options to enable/disable shutdown button tho
[05:07] <Scorpmoon> ok i'll just install it
[05:07] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass haven't downloaded anything but xmmms untill now
[05:07] <chavo> you can install windows on any partition
[05:07] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass denix@mrdenix:~$ sudo synaptic
[05:07] <_Mr_Denix_> denix@mrdenix:~$
[05:07] <chavo> no it's not 1994
[05:07] <sp3tt> GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
[05:07] <sp3tt> DIE DIE DIE
[05:07] <Frogzoo> krazykit: does used to make wierd insistences - master drive/first partition/partition labelled as active - but I think that's mostly old news
[05:08] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass it just resumes to the previous state
[05:08] <sp3tt> SOMEONE KILL THE FUCKER WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MESS
[05:08] <Frogzoo> sp3tt: I'm sorry you're having difficulties
[05:08] <starkmjolk> good day all
[05:08] <thoreauputic> sp3tt: sorry - you were warned
[05:08] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass do you use yahoo / msn  ?
[05:08] <Frogzoo> thoreauputic: oh indeed, he asked for that
[05:08] <blkish> thoreauputic: found it - i had unticked 'show actions menu' from the login window manager. thanks for your help!
[05:09] <thoreauputic> blkish: you're welcome :)
[05:09] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: pandisv [ at/ yahoo.co.uk (MSN)
[05:09] <starkmjolk> anyone else experienced ndiswrapper bailing out with dapper?
[05:09] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass yahoo messenger ?
[05:10] <nanenj> Now this is just strange...
[05:10] <nanenj> it picks up settings that I -know- I've moved...
[05:10] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: No messenger, just MSN :(
[05:10] <mazevedo> does anyone know a msn client for linux that supports voice conversation?
[05:10] <nanenj> I didn't delete them cause I wanted to be able to put them back, but Ubuntu's not exactly great at scanning every orifice of your hd to find a setting :(
[05:10] <burepe2> Is there someway to search channel history or history of a chat with one person?
[05:10] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: 'sudo echo blah' <-- what does that do ?
[05:10] <Dr_Geek> anyone have any luck getting flash player to download?
[05:10] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Copy-paste it without the '
[05:11] <burepe2> This guy told me a package I need and I got dropped from the channel and now he's gone
[05:11] <_Mr_Denix_> denix@mrdenix:~$ sudo echo blah
[05:11] <_Mr_Denix_> denix@mrdenix:~$
[05:11] <gavagai> burepe2, depends on your IRC client
[05:11] <Frogzoo> Dr_Geek: you want to install pkg: flashplugin-nonfree
[05:11] <gavagai> burepe2, mine can do:  /lastlog keyword
[05:11] <Dr_Geek> thanks Frogoo
[05:11] <gavagai> burepe2, it's all on your end, you can't query the server for that
[05:11] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass it seems like it won't exe any of my commands ! this is very confusing to me lol
[05:12] <Frogzoo> Dr_Geek: enjoy
[05:12] <Frogzoo> burepe2: what was the pkg for?
[05:12] <burepe2> gavai can you do that for a chat with a user?
[05:12] <gavagai> _Mr_Denix_, and you are entering denix' password?
[05:12] <Dr_Geek> bbl
[05:12] <burepe2> my networked is sooo gone
[05:12] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: It's a problem with your sudo then, not synaptic. Let me think ....
[05:12] <gavagai> _Mr_Denix_, only if you kept the window open or your irc client kept a log
[05:13] <gavagai> sorry that was for burepe2
[05:13] <babo_> So can I simply burn a .avi file onto a cd-r ?
[05:13] <Pjott> Hey all! =) I'm about to install Linux Ubuntu on my Laptop. I've got a problem.
[05:13] <babo_> it doesn't seem to work for some reason ...
[05:13] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass take your time my friend ! thanks for you hard thinking
[05:13] <burepe2> and I am trying to fix it. I upgraded to dapper and eth0 changed to eth1 and now eth1
[05:13] <gavagai> burepe2, you can set up your irc client to log everything if you want, and delete the logs after X number of days
[05:13] <burepe2> mac address is all 000000
[05:14] <LeaChim> Pjott, so, what's the problem? :P
[05:14] <Frogzoo> burepe2: edit /etc/iftab
[05:14] <krazykit> babo_: you can burn it on a CD as data, but it won't play on, say, your tv
[05:14] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Do a "cat /etc/group" (don't copy paste the output here). Do you see your username in the line that begins with "admin" ?
[05:14] <Pjott> I have the "Alternative Install", wich is "Text-Mode". But when I'm about to install it, it starts loading. Then it say something about: "... OK, Booting Kernel". After that, my Laptop re-starts, giving the same choices as last time.
[05:14] <krazykit> babo_: to do that, you'd need to make a vcd or dvd... last i checked, k3b will do it
[05:14] <burepe2> Frogzoo: did that but there are weird things happening
[05:14] <mazevedo> Pjott, try removing the cd when it reboots.
[05:14] <burepe2> and we couldn't fix it
[05:14] <babo_> krazykit: well I have on a linux computer, and I want to play it on windows computer. But it seems to think the disc is empty ...
[05:14] <Pjott> mazevedo: Will do, Sir :)
[05:15] <Frogzoo> burepe2: well rename the file & reboot & x your fingers
[05:15] <Pjott> ...and here we go again! ;)
[05:15] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass only adm not admin
[05:15] <burzum> can i download somewhere a compiled kernel 2.6.16 with smp support?
[05:15] <burepe2> Frogzoo: rename the file?
[05:15] <babo_> krazykit: so is dvdscr bad then ?
[05:15] <burepe2> to what
[05:15] <burepe2> ?
[05:15] <Frogzoo> burepe2: mv /etc/iftab /etc/iftab.bck
[05:15] <burepe2> and what will that do?
[05:16] <krazykit> burzum: there are SMP kernels in the repos.  just do a search
[05:16] <burepe2> make a new one?
[05:16] <nanenj> Okies... so gnome is getting settings -somewhere- else other then .gconf, .gconfd, .gnome2, and .gnome2_private
[05:16] <burepe2> what is the rename command?
[05:16] <Pjott> mazevedo: Nope, then it loads Windows. (After I remove the CD) :s
[05:16] <krazykit> babo_: never heard of dvdscr, but if you just want to play the avi, you only need to burn it as a data disc
[05:16] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: There must be an "admin" line there. Try this :  "cat group | grep admin" (again, without the quotes)
[05:16] <Frogzoo> burepe2: well the file won't exist, probably a good idea to 'touch /etc/fstab' to create a new empty file, then let udev do its thing
[05:16] <nanenj> Cause... I deleted all four of those.   restarted gdm.  -it- still picks up the last settings... so -WHERE- is it storing them :(
[05:16] <eyequeue> burepe2, mv
[05:17] <burepe2> Frogzoo: I am lost. sorry
[05:17] <mazevedo> Pjott, isn't the boot loading process first?
[05:17] <neutrinomass> burzum: Is there a specific reason you need 2.6.16 ? Thing break with kernels after 2.5.16 . The non-server install of ubuntu comes with SMP compiled in the kernel
[05:17] <burepe2> iftab exists
[05:17] <_Mr_Denix_> cat :group : no such file directory
[05:17] <Pjott> mazevedo: Uncompressing... OK, Booting into Kernel (<-- Or something like that.) *_BOOM_* Then it re-starts...
[05:17] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Sorry, my fault. "cat /etc/group | grep admin"
[05:17] <nanenj> ...This is mildy frustrating... Linux doesn't hide settings like Windows. ;(
[05:18] <mazevedo> ah, *before* starting the installation.
[05:18] <nanenj> But, even through deleting them, it still freaking finds them :|
[05:18] <burepe2> eyequeue: thanks
[05:18] <krazykit> Pjott: there are kernel options you can add.  acpi=off is one of them, i /think/, but there should be a list of boot options somewhere.
[05:18] <_Mr_Denix_> lpadmin
[05:18] <kbrooks> nanenj: it should not hide settings
[05:18] <eyequeue> neutrinomass, grep admin /etc/group :)  save a cat
[05:18] <Pjott> mazevedo: Yeah. I get the choices about "Install in Text-Mode" - "Install OEM Software" - "VGA Modus" etc.
[05:18] <Alexi5> hello
[05:18] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass lpadmin
[05:18] <Frogzoo> nanenj: settings for what?
[05:18] <gavagai> UUOC!
[05:18] <Pjott> After I select the first "Install in Text-Mode", the "OK, booting kernel" comes up.
[05:18] <nanenj> gnome... long story short, I borked gnome settings, wanted to reset it to default.
[05:18] <Pjott> Then it re-starts
[05:19] <gavagai> eyequeue, or even more succint, groups username
[05:19] <Alexi5> ubuntu 6 has desktop live cd is great
[05:19] <Almindor> how do I install gnome-config? (the pkg-config like thing
[05:19] <Almindor> )
[05:19] <nanenj> But.  Even after deleting .gconf, .gconfd, .gnome2, .gnome2_private.  It's still picking up the background and panel settings.
[05:19] <neutrinomass> eyequeue: Yeah. I always do a cat for some reason though :)
[05:19] <burzum> neutrinomass, lets say it in a short way: ubuntu sucks ass and is not usable for me atm, it randomly crashes (with nv, and nvidia) i cant find out why, my hardware is ok and the last thing i want to try now is another kernel
[05:19] <nanenj> I'm trying to reset my account to a state like it's never ever logged into gnome before :/
[05:19] <burzum> its the most unstable linux distri i ever tested so far :(
[05:20] <Pjott> burzum: Maby because nVidia suck ass, and ATI Radeon is the thing? :p
[05:20] <_binks_> hyou kidding unstable
[05:20] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Somehow, that file got messed up.
[05:20] <Frogzoo> Almindor: it's already there - apps -> system tools -> config editor
[05:20] <Almindor> Frogzoo, not that
[05:20] <Almindor> Frogzoo, read my question again
[05:20] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass what do you suggest
[05:20] <nanenj> But, like I said, even after deleting every feasible config directory having to do with gnome, it's -still- finding settings -somewhere- :P
[05:20] <adamant1988> will the WINE .debs made for Ubuntu Breezy work on Dapper?
[05:20] <Pjott> mazevedo: Any idas?
[05:20] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: We have a chicken and egg problem here though. To edit that file you need to use sudo, but you can't use sudo unless you edit the file :-/
[05:20] <nanenj> that aren't the default :/
[05:20] <burepe2> Frogzoo: sorry, can you explain one more time?
[05:20] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass nice stuff lad
[05:20] <_Mr_Denix_> lol
[05:20] <gavagai> _Mr_Denix_, is this the only user account on the system?
[05:20] <_Mr_Denix_> yes
[05:21] <burzum> Pjott: a great joke, ATI is the last shit, ive tried to get an ATI card working for 18month in gentoo - ive changed to nvidia then and it worked in 5mins lol
[05:21] <_Mr_Denix_> i can manage to create other
[05:21] <_Mr_Denix_> i guess
[05:21] <gavagai> what would happen if _Mr_Denix_ went to single user mode in this situation?
[05:21] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Try "gedit /etc/group". Try "editing" the file (delete a random character and type it again) and try to save the file. Can it be saved ?
[05:21] <biesterfeld> hi, hopefully here is anyone who can help me with my ubuntu, I have some problems wth my networking after upgrading on dapper
[05:21] <yuheng108> after I compile 2.6 kernel, I don't have sound anymore
[05:21] <neutrinomass> gavagai: Good call.
[05:21] <yuheng108> what's wrong?
[05:21] <adamant1988> burzum: I'm using an ATI card... works just fine.
[05:21] <Pjott> burzum: Then change Distro ;P
[05:21] <Frogzoo> burepe2: 'sudo mv /etc/iftab /etc/iftab.bck ; sudo touch /etc/iftab' & reboot
[05:21] <Pjott> adamant1988: Thanks for The Support ;)
[05:21] <Pjott> haha
[05:21] <Echelon-H> !ati
[05:21] <ubotu> hmm... ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[05:21] <eyequeue> umarmung, perhaps we can avoid getting into the proprietary video wars here please?
[05:21] <mazevedo> Pjott, not any output else?
[05:21] <Pjott> mazevedo: Before it "crashes" ?
[05:21] <eyequeue> um- not umarmung
[05:21] <burzum> adamant1988, i never said that ATI is never working but its well known that the drivers are shit (even the windows drivers)
[05:21] <kbrooks> !nvidia
[05:21] <ubotu> well, nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:21] <_binks_> burzum ati is good not like windows but good for desktop
[05:22] <umarmung> eyequeue: sure you can, no need to ask me. :)
[05:22] <kbrooks> burzum:
[05:22] <mazevedo> yes.
[05:22] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass i cannot modify / edit any char
[05:22] <kbrooks> !language
[05:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[05:22] <_binks_> dont swear m8
[05:22] <kbrooks> don't say "shit"
[05:22] <eyequeue> umarmung, silly nick completion here, sorry
[05:22] <Pjott> mazevedo: Nope :s
[05:22] <Frogzoo> kbrooks: u started it :p
[05:22] <adamant1988> burzum: ok, so ATI doesn't produce the best drivers, but the drivers still work, no?
[05:22] <kbrooks> Frogzoo: feel free to !language me if u like
[05:22] <Pjott> anima: You missed an "L" at the end of your nick ;p
[05:23] <burzum> without 3d acceleration and they are instable - if you call this working yes ;)
[05:23] <redrum> adamant1988 no
[05:23] <_binks_> what do you want from the drivers the work
[05:23] <burepe2> Frogzoo: do I need that ' at the end of the command?
[05:23] <_binks_> but the ati drivers have 3d
[05:23] <adamant1988> burzum:  I have 3d acceleration, and it's relatively stable.
[05:23] <void^> "relatively" :)
[05:23] <Frogzoo> burepe2: 'sudo mv /etc/iftab /etc/iftab.bck ; sudo touch /etc/iftab'                          then reboot
[05:23] <burzum> 3daccel caused a hardlock for me while starting xorg - ALLWAYS and ive tried all driver versions over 18 month
[05:24] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Save all your current work and reboot. When you get to the point where you hvae to select OS (so called "grub"), choose the "rescue" mode. When it enters the rescue mode type the following: "echo admin:x:112:mr_denix >> /etc/group" . Make sure you type the exact thing I gave you here, and replace mr_denix with your actual username
[05:24] <Pjott> void^ main void^()
[05:24] <adamant1988> Can I install WINE from the .debs intended for breezy?
[05:24] <void^> Pjott: wow, you are good at hilighting me
[05:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> kismet is very foreign to me.
[05:24] <burzum> anyway, why are we talking about ati? i kicked the card out, it was my first and last try ever with ati
[05:24] <kbrooks> adamant1988: on dapper? no
[05:24] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass great stuff  i will do so soon ! give me few minutes pls
[05:24] <redrum> i am suffering due to ati
[05:24] <adamant1988> darn, can anyone help me figure out how to get wine running then?
[05:24] <Frogzoo> nanenj: one possible solution - create a new user & copy over from your old home only what you need
[05:24] <kbrooks> adamant1988: on breezy? yes
[05:25] <anima> Haha Pjott, I'm on my way to becoming one if I don't figure out some audio recording solutions on Ubuntu
[05:25] <adamant1988> Well I'm using dapper
[05:25] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: I'm not sure I will be here, but somebody else will help you if further help is needed :)
[05:25] <adamant1988> So are you saying that WINE isn't useable on dapper yet?
[05:25] <nanenj> Frogzoo: I'm on a quest now :P I've got to find out how it's retrieving settings from something I deleted.
[05:25] <ronzo> im trying to install libxine-extracodecs in ubuntu dapper. any ideas? =)
[05:25] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass thanks for  your support ! really do appreciate it
[05:25] <j3g> how to add support for reiser4 on the dapper install?
[05:25] <_Mr_Denix_> it was great talking to you
[05:26] <neutrinomass> burzum, redrum: http://www.petitiononline.com/atipet/petition.html Here's a petition against ATI if you are interested ....
[05:26] <prxq> hi. is this the git tree of the dapper kernel? www.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git/
[05:26] <redrum> haha i had friends who were going to do that
[05:26] <ronzo> against...? =)
[05:26] <neutrinomass> ronzo: Against, whatever. I'm not a native speaker :P
[05:26] <adamant1988> oh, WINE is in the repos...
[05:26] <adamant1988> =\
[05:27] <Frogzoo> adamant1988: you can get 0.9.15 from a different repo if you like?
[05:27] <Pjott> mazevedo: Still any idas ? :s
[05:27] <adamant1988> No, I just didn't know it was in the repos lol, I have been trying to install games lately and I've gotten into the mindset that nothing is in the repos Frogzoo :)
[05:27] <j3g> how does one add support for reiser4 on ubuntu dapper install? mount says i must specify the filesystem type... but it doesn't accept -t reiser4
[05:27] <mazevedo> not really.
[05:28] <Pjott> Then I'll freakin' break my LapTop into two pieces!
[05:28] <Pjott> I'm getting sick and tierd of Windows
[05:28] <ronzo> anyone know which repos i have to add in order to get libxine-extracodecs?
[05:28] <neutrinomass> j3g: Reiser4 is experimental and the the source code for it is not in the vanilla kernel. To get reiserfs4 you will have to manually patch the dapper sources, which I'm not sure is easily doable. Stay away from it though, it's not reliable.
[05:28] <Pjott> Windows Asta La Vista
[05:28] <_binks_> burzum what ati acrd do you have and what mobo
[05:28] <[Noir] > I can connect with Live CD into my wireless and I can't in my installation. Anyone can help me?
[05:28] <neutrinomass> !info libxine-extracodecs
[05:28] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 1148 kB, Installed size: 2976 kB
[05:28] <ronzo> Pjott, i tried vista for 10 min...then reinstalled ubuntu
[05:28] <Pjott> Well, I'm off!
[05:28] <Frogzoo> Pjott: how old is this laptop?
[05:29] <burzum> _binks_ i DONT have an ATI card!
[05:29] <eyequeue> Filename: pool/multiverse/x/xine-extracodecs/libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_i386.deb
[05:29] <ronzo> ty eye =)
[05:29] <rjd> Hi all..
[05:29] <nanenj> Bwahaha!
[05:29] <Pjott> Frogzoo: It's about... 1-2 years old?
[05:29] <nanenj> I have conquered.
[05:29] <nanenj> x.x;
[05:29] <nanenj> That was way too hard.
[05:29] <_binks_> me bad i got the wrong end of the stick loool sorry
[05:29] <adamant1988> I hope this works lol... I'll be playing windows games ^_^
[05:29] <Frogzoo> Pjott: just a thought - try reburning the cd at a slower speed & then checking the image is correct
[05:29] <nanenj> So... when I logged in with this account again.   It said oh noes, no configuration, and made them again ;D
[05:30] <rjd> Does anyone know where you can get konfabulator like widgets for gnome?
[05:30] <burzum> _binks_ i have an Asus Extreme 7800GT and an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe and just want to get an already compiled 2.6.16 kernel for ubuntu and if this kernel isnt working im going to kick ubuntu from my disk because its not usable atm because of random hardlocks and some apps crash
[05:30] <Frogzoo> nanenj: so where's it caching the old configs?
[05:30] <Pjott> Frogzoo: I burned it at 32x last time, but OK :)
[05:30] <Pjott> Will do ;D
[05:30] <_binks_> is it considered bad to drop an ice cream on the keyboard oooooooops
[05:31] <burzum> _blinks_ its acting like a totaly *****up windows for me
[05:31] <Kibou> seems to be working fine for everyone else though
[05:31] <nanenj> Frogzoo, I honestly haven't quite figured that part out.  :P
[05:31] <eyequeue> libglade-gnome0 - Library to load .glade files at runtime (Gnome widgets support)
[05:31] <_binks_> dont call me blinks ffs you dont need to swear either
[05:31] <Pjott> Frogzoo: I'm doing it at 16x now :S:S:S
[05:31] <nanenj> I think if it was caching them somewhere, it did so through some kind of key (maybe .XAuthority or whatever)
[05:31] <u01p2101> !compiz
[05:31] <ubotu> Compiz is a compositing manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. See http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz -- Installation howto's:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.
[05:32] <nanenj> So... when I deleted that, it didn't know what key to retrieve settings from, so rebuilt my settings.
[05:32] <rjd> where do you get the widgets from?
[05:32] <ronzo> eyequeue, <3 it worked
[05:32] <eyequeue> good
[05:32] <Frogzoo> rjd: widgets?
[05:32] <ronzo> haha
[05:32] <nanenj> But, that has no real basis other then I can't feasibly think of another way to identify what settings belong to who if it does cache them somewhere
[05:33] <burepe2> Frogzoo: after reboot ifconfig says eth0 (not eth1 anymore, which I think is good) and mac address 00:00:00:00:00:00. That's bad, huh?
[05:33] <ronzo> and mp4 files work!!
[05:33] <nanenj> The other possibility is that it wasn't caching settings at all, and the settings aren't stored in gnome preferences, but rather somewhere in metacity or the like.
[05:33] <eewai> g'day. how can i install skype on ubuntu as the download file is .deb
[05:33] <Frogzoo> nanenj: it's possible gnome keeps them in memory - try deleting the files, log out, restart gdm, log back in
[05:33] <nanenj> eewai, dpkg -i filename.deb
[05:33] <rjd> Frogzoo: I wan't stuff on my desktop... Maybe a clock, things to do, something like that
[05:33] <nanenj> Frogzoo, I'd tried that half a dozen times :)  killall gdm :P
[05:33] <gimmulf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15542  <-- someone is trying to hack me?
[05:33] <burepe2> eewai can you use automatics on that?
[05:34] <Frogzoo> rjd: gdesklets
[05:34] <rjd> Frogzoo:thanks
[05:34] <livingdaylight> Which is better Rhythmbox or Amarok?
[05:34] <eewai> thx alot.. i'm newbie to ubuntu/linux
[05:34] <eyequeue> eewai, consider ekiga instead, since it's free
[05:34] <FireCat> livingdaylight: Amarok
[05:34] <neutrinomass> gimmulf: There was some talk earlier today about a DCC exploit, so quite likely..
[05:35] <burepe2> eyequeue: that is a skype like program?
[05:35] <Frogzoo> burepe2: what does 'ifconfig | grep HWaddr' say?
[05:35] <rjd> Does anyone know of a good editor that can ftp on save?
[05:35] <livingdaylight> FireCat: thx, i've used neither before, so don't wanna waste my time withthe wrong jukebox
[05:35] <eyequeue> burepe2, softphone, nod
[05:35] <Bassetts> is there no way to make the usplash blue?
[05:35] <gimmulf> neutrinomass:  any suggestions on what to do to find out if they succeeded?
[05:35] <FireCat> livingdaylight: both work fine, but Amarok has a lot of nice little extras
[05:35] <nanenj> Hrm, that didn't work :P  is there a way to background a process and then claim it in another terminal (without having used screen)?
[05:36] <burepe2> Frogzoo: all 0000's
[05:36] <nanenj> IE: I'm running Irssi, I want to CTRL-Z, and then pick the process back up under my gnome session.
[05:36] <livingdaylight> FireCat: If Amarok doesn't detect thename of artist or album can i type that in? I found in Rhythmbox i couldn't, so i thought, "hang on a minute here" You know what i mean?
[05:36] <winston> Hello -- need help tu get printer working under dapper
[05:36] <neutrinomass> gimmulf: Not sure, I really don't know about the matter.
[05:36] <FireCat> livingdaylight: I've never encountered that yet
[05:36] <Pjott> Well, after 16x Speed, I might see "Ubuntu" shaped into the CD :p
[05:37] <eyequeue> nanenj, i always started irssi under screen, myself
[05:37] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: sys -> admin -> login window -> local -> background color      I think
[05:37] <nanenj> eyequeue :) me too, small oversight this time ;)
[05:37] <babo> Error trying to open /dev/cdrom exclusively (Device or resource busy) ... arrrghh ...
[05:37] <rjd> dapper completes me....
[05:37] <nanenj> Oh well, won't kill me to restart it ;) brb.
[05:37] <livingdaylight> FireCat: what? the problem of not beingable to or of needing to?
[05:37] <Frogzoo> burepe2: what is the nic do you know? make/model/chipset? as much details as you have?
[05:37] <babo> I've shut all the windows. I don't know how it could be busy. How can I find out ?
[05:37] <sladen> !tell Bassetts about usplash
[05:37] <ronzo> amarok works with m4a and mp3 files now! /dance
[05:37] <gimmulf> !ssh
[05:37] <ubotu> I guess ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[05:37] <burepe2> sorry
[05:38] <FireCat> livingdaylight: I use sound juicer to rip and amarok as a player. I haven't needed to put something else in yet
[05:38] <sybec> Ubuntu is an ancient african word meaning "I'm gay"
[05:38] <danfg> my mouse has like 8 buttons, how do i configure them?
[05:38] <rjd> what kinda mouse is it?
[05:38] <burepe2> Frogzoo: don't know the chipset but will dmesg output help?
[05:38] <thoreauputic> sybec: *cough*
[05:38] <ronzo> danfg, logitec came out with an applet for doing that
[05:38] <ronzo> if im not mistaking
[05:38] <eyequeue> sybec, homophobia isn't appropriate here
[05:38] <thoreauputic> sybec: watch your step
[05:38] <sybec> gay as in happy
[05:38] <danfg> ronzo: cool, what's it called?
[05:38] <Frogzoo> sybec: of course
[05:38] <nanenj> There :D
[05:39] <adamant1988> hrmmm
[05:39] <danfg> rjd: logitech mx510
[05:39] <livingdaylight> FireCat: yea, i used soundjuicer. all the folders are kept in home/<name>directory?
[05:39] <burepe2> Frogzoo here is just about everything I know. In my forum post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194056
[05:39] <adamant1988> the wine in the repos appears to be broken or something...
[05:39] <adamant1988> or maybe I'm missing something..
[05:39] <livingdaylight> FireCat: or do you create another path for Amarok?
[05:39] <santiagokq> i'm trying to connect to a vnc of a friend of mine, but vncviewer says "color name black not defined", although it is defined in my xorg rgb.txt... what should i do?
[05:39] <FireCat> livingdaylight: Yes, you just need to tell Amarok what directory to index
[05:39] <Frogzoo> adamant1988: try 0.9.15
[05:39] <Frogzoo> !tell adamant1988 about wine
[05:40] <Pjott> Nope, still fucking re-starts!!!! <-- Sorry for the F-Word, but I'm starting to get REAL pissed-off at this!
[05:40] <u01p2101> !
[05:40] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, u01p2101
[05:40] <u01p2101> !xmedia
[05:40] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, u01p2101
[05:40] <leonardoo> hello, someone to help me please ?
[05:40] <adamant1988> ok Frogzoo :)
[05:40] <Toma-> Anyone do any multi-track recording in ubuntu?
[05:40] <santiagokq> i'm trying to connect to a vnc of a friend of mine, but vncviewer says "color name black not defined", although it is defined in my xorg rgb.txt... what should i do ?
[05:40] <leonardoo> i've got a zip archive protected with a password
[05:40] <u01p2101> !x-media
[05:40] <ubotu> u01p2101: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:40] <Mr> hello
[05:40] <leonardoo> multivolume
[05:40] <leonardoo> and i wanna extract it
[05:40] <Mr> neutrinomass still with us ? :p
[05:40] <livingdaylight> FireCat: so do you have a directory called music and inthere all the other albums?
[05:40] <neutrinomass> Mr: Did it work ?
[05:40] <_MR_Denix_> nope it didn't
[05:41] <Subhuman> leonardoo, open the zip called .zip, not .001 or w.e, and enter the password, then itll extract.
[05:41] <livingdaylight> sybec; ?
[05:41] <_MR_Denix_> neutrinomass i typed the whole thing
[05:41] <_MR_Denix_> and nothing at all happend
[05:41] <neosc> a common query i guess... i have a 4 speaker system.. only two gimme output currently.. just added two more through another sound output on the motherboard.. ubuntu doesnt seem too detect them.. any ideas?
[05:41] <neutrinomass> _MR_Denix_: Of course now "cat /etc/group | grep admin" shows the group admin right ?
[05:41] <_MR_Denix_> let me try
[05:41] <FireCat> livingdaylight: Yes, exactly like that
[05:42] <nanenj> LS
[05:42] <nanenj> dur >.<
[05:42] <_MR_Denix_> neutrinomass it does show admin
[05:42] <thoreauputic> ;)
[05:42] <neutrinomass> _MR_Denix_: And you put the correct username (instead of blah) ?
[05:42] <neutrinomass> thoreauputic: It's a habit hard to get rid of :P
[05:42] <thoreauputic> neutrinomass: heh :)
[05:42] <livingdaylight> FireCat: kewl. Is there a place to educate myself further, #irc or forums?
[05:42] <winston> Hell- How do I get a ppd file, the driver for my printer??
[05:42] <_MR_Denix_> neutrnomass yes i did
[05:42] <neutrinomass> _MR_Denix_: Ok, gimme a sec.
[05:43] <_MR_Denix_> sure
[05:43] <mips> Is there any other way for repairing bad packages without apt-get??
[05:43] <neosc> hmm..guys..
[05:43] <neosc> i have a 4 speaker system.. only two gimme output currently.. just added two more through another sound output on the motherboard.. ubuntu doesnt seem too detect them.. any ideas?
[05:43] <FireCat> livingdaylight: I just installed it, configured it and it 'just worked'
[05:43] <rigonatti> hi there !
[05:43] <rigonatti> can someone give me a quick explain about dual boot ?
[05:44] <burepe2> Frogzoo: I figured it out. It is a Realtek. RTL-8139/8139c/8139+
[05:44] <warpzone> rigonatti: how to do it or what it does?
[05:44] <livingdaylight> FireCat: Rhythmbox?
[05:44] <neosc> 904 ppl! i have a 4 speaker system.. only two gimme output currently.. just added two more through another sound output on the motherboard.. ubuntu doesnt seem too detect them.. any ideas?
[05:44] <danfg> ronzo: i found the applet at freshmeat.net, thanks :)
[05:44] <livingdaylight> FireCat: what?
[05:44] <FireCat> livingdaylight: Amarok, rhythmbox is installed by default I think
[05:45] <kati> #joined
[05:45] <livingdaylight> FireCat: Rhythmbox was installed by default, which is why i used it first
[05:45] <kati> ops
[05:45] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Try "sudo -l" (again, don't copy paste here). Do you get "(ALL) ALL" ?
[05:45] <kati> how to go to another channel?
[05:45] <livingdaylight> FireCat: Amarok i'd have to install
[05:46] <_Mr_Denix_> sorry, user denis may not run sudo on mrdenix
[05:46] <FireCat> livingdaylight: I would think that it would be sound juicer where you put int the details, for use by players
[05:46] <eyequeue> kati, /join #other
[05:46] <SonicChao> Can I listen to .m3u radio streams in Ubuntu?
[05:46] <kati> thanks
[05:46] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass sorry, user denis may not run sudo on mrdenix
[05:46] <warpzone> hey guys I'm having a slight prob, getting "404 not found" on some critical sites when I run "apt-get update". Any idea how to repair?
[05:46] <ronzo> no danfg
[05:46] <winston> ANYONE know how to get a printer driver installed?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: what does id | grep admin say ?
[05:46] <kati> and nox a name of a channel?
[05:46] <neosc> may your souls rest in peace... may not your conscience hurt you.. for i return unhelped
[05:46] <ronzo> *yw danfg =P
[05:46] <kati> eyequeue
[05:47] <dooglus> nanenj: I just ran GNOME for the first time.  It created the following in my home directory: "Desktop .dmrc .gconf .gconfd .gnome .gnome2 .gnome2_private .gstreamer-0.10 .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2 .ICEauthority .metacity .nautilus .thumbnails .Trash .update-notifier .xsession-errors"
[05:47] <mips> Is there any other way for repairing bad packages without apt-get?
[05:47] <SonicChao> Please, is there a way to listen to M3U radio STREAMS????
[05:47] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass is gibbrish to me lol uid=1000(denix) gid=1000(denix) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),1000(denix)
[05:47] <livingdaylight> FireCat: Rhythmbox is also working, but i loaded something up and it didn't recognise the name. I had already changed in soundjuicer the name, but it didn't carry over when i dragged it to rythmbox, so i tried to manually assign name of artist and album in rythmbox properties but although it opened it wouln't let me type! permissions??
[05:47] <Toma-> mips: how do you mean 'bad'?
[05:47] <rigonatti> :  The ubuntu CD start a live session with a "Install" icon on desktop, Then I press...format partitions ...but when PC restart boot windows directly
[05:47] <eyequeue> kati, "/join #ubuntu-offtopic", for example
[05:47] <warpzone> winston: hae you tried the Gnome GUI already? It has a menu based install
[05:47] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Out of curiosity, is this a clean install of ubuntu 6.06 ? :-/
[05:47] <kati> thanks :-*
[05:47] <burepe2> dooglus: what is the problem?
[05:47] <FireCat> livingdaylight: I wouldn't think so, unless it is a shared directory or something
[05:48] <mips> packages that are broken
[05:48] <Frogzoo> winston: sys -> admin -> printers -> add printer & select the right driver
[05:48] <FireCat> Try looking at the properties in nautilus
[05:48] <burepe2> dooglus: those are hidden files. If you change the view to not show them you will not see them
[05:48] <_Mr_Denix_> depdens what do you mean by clean. i have down it from the site wrote it on a cd and installed fully packaged in expert mode
[05:48] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass depdens what do you mean by clean. i have down it from the site wrote it on a cd and installed fully packaged in expert mode
[05:48] <winston> warpzone Im in gnome -- it tells me to point it to the driver
[05:48] <rigonatti> can anyone give me a hand ?
[05:48] <dooglus> burepe2: no problem
[05:48] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: you aren't in the admin group it seems
[05:48] <burepe2> dooglus: maybe I am missing your meaning though
[05:48] <Toma-> mips: 'sudo dpkg -e packagename'
[05:48] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Classifies as clean ...
[05:48] <winston> Frogzoo where do i get the driver
[05:48] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic lol ! who is then
[05:48] <livingdaylight> FireCat: i want to assign name, so i thought maybe Amarok is the answer. But i would like to try firrst to resolve it with Rythmbox if there is a solution
[05:48] <dooglus> nanenj: was wondering where GNOME stored its configuration
[05:49] <dooglus> I mean...
[05:49] <adamant1988> Frogzoo: I have followed the tutorial for adding repos but the information isn't accurate for dapper.
[05:49] <dooglus> burepe2: nanenj was wondering where GNOME stored its configuration
[05:49] <burepe2> oh ok
[05:49] <adamant1988> The buttons it claims will be there are not, and so on.
[05:49] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: I would boot to recovery/rescue mode and run  adduser denix admin
[05:49] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: sudo expects you to be in "admin"
[05:50] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Can you please copy paste the output of "grep admin:x:112 /etc/group"
[05:50] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic i see . i just write in recovery        "    adduser denix admin  " ok ?
[05:50] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass ok
[05:50] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: correct - you didn't set a root pass or use the expert install, did you?
[05:50] <FireCat> livingdaylight: I can'
[05:50] <danfg> what do i need to make and configure?
[05:50] <rigonatti> can anyone give me a hand with dualboot ?
[05:50] <maddy_> help i cannot mount my ntfs partition in write mode
[05:50] <neutrinomass> thoreauputic: He used the expert install.
[05:50] <thoreauputic> ah
[05:51] <apokryphos> rigonatti: very vague, you'll need to expand
[05:51] <FireCat> t edit them in rythmbox eITHER
[05:51] <thoreauputic> neutrinomass: herein lies the problem
[05:51] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass admin:X:112:mr_denix
[05:51] <_Mr_Denix_> admin:X:112:mr_denix
[05:51] <_Mr_Denix_> admin:X:112:mr_denix
[05:51] <_Mr_Denix_> admin:X:112:mr_denix
[05:51] <livingdaylight> FireCat: arrrr...i knew you'd say that....
[05:51] <Echelon-H> how can I call the gnome-login instead of gnome-session?
[05:51] <apokryphos> _Mr_Denix_: please stop
[05:51] <eyequeue> admin:x:106:
[05:51] <Frogzoo> burepe2: from the sounds of things, you need to use the nvidia driver for this nic, available from here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0261   - unfortunately it's a source module, & compiling it won't be straightforward for you - easiest might be to disable the onboard nic, & install something that is well supported - eg intel
[05:51] <danfg> maddy_:  you wouldn't want to, it's not very safe
[05:51] <leonardoo> some one to help me with the unzip please ?
[05:51] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic i did use the expert install and selected for instalation all the packages
[05:51] <eyequeue> 112 is not guaranteed
[05:51] <mips> curado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15546
[05:51] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> hi to all
[05:51] <FireCat> livingdaylight: bb, need to log back in
[05:51] <kenalex> ubuntu is great
[05:51] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: How did it get in there 3 times when you only added it one ?
[05:51] <u01p2101> !thin
[05:51] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, u01p2101
[05:51] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: the expert install doesn't set up sudo for you
[05:51] <neutrinomass> eyequeue: Hm... what doe sit depend on ?
[05:51] <maddy_> danfg i have many ntfa partition and wanna use this one as shared storage between windows and linux
[05:52] <Bassetts> sladen: i tried that, and i end up with no usplash
[05:52] <maddy_> danfg so its not my system nfta partition
[05:52] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass i have no clue ....
[05:52] <apokryphos> maddy_: no writing to ntfs at all I'm afraid
[05:52] <rigonatti> can anyone give me a hand with dualboot ?
[05:52] <eyequeue> neutrinomass, what packages are installed, among other things
[05:52] <burepe2> Frogzoo: why would it stop working after an upgrade to dapper. If i didn't need it before why would I need it now?
[05:52] <Echelon-H> how can I call the gnome-login instead of gnome-session?
[05:52] <neutrinomass> eyequeue: Interesting... thanks for the info.
[05:52] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic what do you suggest reinstall in normal mode ?
[05:52] <kenalex> are there any shoutcast players for ubuntu
[05:52] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: you will have to add the group "admin", add yourself to it, and run visudo
[05:52] <eyequeue> neutrinomass, np
[05:52] <_mason> Gday
[05:52] <Frogzoo> burepe2: oh, this worked on breezy? curious
[05:52] <maddy_> apokryphos, my dapper says unknown filesys type ntfs-fuse
[05:52] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> I've installed ATI driver package but X dosn't start because "Display dosn't recognized". How can I do?
[05:53] <danfg> maddy_:  in that case: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite
[05:53] <winston> PRINTER setup is asking me for a PPD file driver for my printer. Where do you find these???
[05:53] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: it might be easier to reinstall unless you are comfortable with editing from cli
[05:53] <apokryphos> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: are you following the guide?
[05:53] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: Yes, 2 method
[05:53] <burepe2> Frogzoo: did you read this ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194056
[05:53] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: the expert install really *means* expert ;)
[05:53] <adamant1988> should I enable all of the repos I can? like the LTS security updates Binary and Source?
[05:53] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic if you recommend reinstall i will do so ! any other stuff i might need to know ?
[05:53] <apokryphos> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: well, reconfigure your xorg and specify the ati driver
[05:53] <neutrinomass> thoreauputic: Any idea why the expert mode doesn't setup sudo ? :-/
[05:53] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic lol
[05:54] <Frogzoo> burepe2: what's it sharing irq 11 with?
[05:54] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: if you're an expert, you know how to set it up :P
[05:54] <thoreauputic> neutrinomass: it expect you to know what you are doing ;)
[05:54] <danfg> guys, what package do i need to be able to run "make" and "configure"?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: if you have 30 years or so we can go though the entire UNIX experience for you ;-) *grin*
[05:55] <rigonatti> can anyone give me a hand with dualboot ?
[05:55] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[05:55] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[05:55] <eyequeue> danfg, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:55] <apokryphos> rigonatti: once again, that's far too vague. What do you mean?
[05:55] <neutrinomass> apokryphos: Then I guess that if you're an expert you should also be able to figure out the deps for 1000 packages for yourself, and install them in the correct order, right ? :-p
[05:55] <burepe2> Frogzoo what is irq11?
[05:55] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic i choosed this mode because i thought  if i would be able to install all packages i won;t have any pbs
[05:55] <gerardomt> join #ubuntu-es
[05:55] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: into xorg ATI driver are selected but when I restart the pc X server return the follow error: "diplay don't recognized"
[05:55] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: it's not even remotely similar
[05:55] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic thanks i want to live lol
[05:55] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: erm - I suggest a default install ;)
[05:55] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: setting up sudo takes seconds if you know what you're doing.
[05:55] <Frogzoo> burepe2: what pci devices do you have on board? just the video card? or anything else?
[05:56] <apokryphos> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: did you reconfigure your X? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:56] <rigonatti> apokryphos: The ubuntu CD start a live session with a "Install" icon on desktop, Then I press...format partitions ...but when PC restart boot windows directly
[05:56] <burepe2> Frogzoo: firewire and tvtuner
[05:56] <neutrinomass> apokryphos: Agreed. The expert mode is only in ubiquity? I can't recall such a mode in the text-based installer .... (maybe I missed it )
[05:56] <dooglus> neutrinomass: it's a known bug that expert mode doesn't set up sudo
[05:56] <apokryphos> rigonatti: there's no option to go back into kubuntu?
[05:56] <danfg> eyequeue:  funny, i thought i already had build-essential, thanks :)
[05:56] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic i will do so ! right now ! thanks for your time your patience and your advice . also neutrinomass ! it's nice that someone helps the "experts" :)) feels good !  gonna go reinstall thanks again
[05:56] <gilligan_> hm, what debian repos should I use in combination with dapper ? sarge/etch/sid ?
[05:56] <kenalex> does anyone know of any shoutcast players for ubuntu
[05:56] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: only in the alternate CD
[05:56] <gnomefreak> neutrinomass: its in the text mode installer
[05:56] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: after install ati driver I did't make
[05:57] <brokenthorn> Please could somone tell me what default mode should I set vesafb-tng to for the usplash to display ok?!
[05:57] <eyequeue> gilligan_, none
[05:57] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: by the way, I don't use the expert install - I'm not expert enough ;)
[05:57] <dooglus> gilligan_: there's no good choice.  sarge is too old, and sid will soon be too new
[05:57] <apokryphos> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: sorry?
[05:57] <rigonatti> nope... i Mean ...the Brezze version had a prompt of GRub...
[05:57] <babo> Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[05:57] <babo>  .... this is what i get when I try to get gnome to open a .avi cd that I've just burnt ... ?
[05:57] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic i admit it was one of the worst choices of my life lol
[05:57] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: No, after install ATI driver no
[05:57] <apokryphos> rigonatti: ok, your boot loader was nuked somehow. Are you on the live CD now?
[05:57] <gilligan_> dooglus, eyequeue  : well I am wondering for what I should go with the marillat repositories - that is why I am asking
[05:57] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: heheh :)
[05:57] <_Mr_Denix_> well... see you all in about an hour !
[05:57] <winston> HOW do i get my printer to work???
[05:57] <burepe2> Frogzoo: there are 3 in total, ethernet, firewire and tvtuner
[05:58] <rigonatti> nope....im windows ...
[05:58] <apokryphos> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: I'm afraid I don't know what you mean. Is the ATI driver installed now?
[05:58] <gnomefreak> gilligan_: no dont use debian repos with ubuntu
[05:58] <_Mr_Denix_> take care ! cheers
[05:58] <rigonatti> on windows
[05:58] <apokryphos> rigonatti: boot into Kubuntu Desktop CD
[05:58] <apokryphos> rigonatti: then I'll try to help you from there
[05:58] <winston> I tried installing gutenprint as Ive seen in linuxprinting.org but nothing works!?! doesnt ubuntu support printing?
[05:58] <dooglus> gilligan_: I used sid when I used them, but it's not recommended.
[05:58] <rigonatti> ok... hold on
[05:58] <dooglus> gilligan_: (it worked just fine, or appeared to)
[05:59] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: I've copy the original xorg now because xorg with ATI driver specify dosn't start because "display isn't recognized"
[05:59] <Bassetts> how do I enable changing printer settings through cups, my username and password do not work on it
[06:00] <mips> Toma, the command dpkg -e packagename didn't work, I get some errors with it
[06:00] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: How can I do to specify my display?
[06:00] <babo> Can someone help me out pls ... I'm burning one coaster after another here ...
[06:00] <Toma-> mips: what error?
[06:00] <jUggERNAUt1980> ompaul??
[06:00] <thoreauputic> neutrinomass: with the alternate/ text installer you have to consciously type "expert" at the prompt :)
[06:00] <gilligan_> dooglus, okay.. was working for me before as well. Just can't recall what I was using back then. I tried fedora for a while. Switching back to ubuntu now tho as fedora was sort of annoying
[06:00] <winston> IS there anyone here who can help me get my printer to work under dapper???
[06:00] <apokryphos> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: does that happen if, (i) install ATI driver, (ii) sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[06:00] <babo> Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[06:00] <Subhuman> babo, try a lower burn speed
[06:00] <Sir_Brizz> babo, what is happening?
[06:00] <babo>  .... this is what i get when I try to get gnome to open a .avi cd that I've just burnt ... ?
[06:00] <Bassetts> winston: what printer?
[06:01] <winston> Bassetts espon stylus photo 1280
[06:01] <Sir_Brizz> babo, what program are you using to open it?
[06:01] <FireCat> Amarok allows me to edit the music file titles and info
[06:01] <thoreauputic> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[ Could you *possibly* have chosen a more annoying nick ? *grin*
[06:01] <winston> Bassetts i saw that gutenprint should handle it, but i cant get it installed
[06:01] <mips> the system couldn't find the package
[06:01] <Bassetts> winston: i dont know about epson, sorry
[06:01] <Frogzoo> burepe2: moving the cards to different slots might help, might not
[06:01] <burepe2> ok
[06:01] <babo> I'm burning .avi files to cd's, but they are coming out messed up. I'm burning with cdrecord and I'm opening with cmd line, windows and gnome ...
[06:01] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: I did't try to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:01] <burepe2> I will try
[06:01] <babo> Sir_Brizz, ^^
[06:01] <Bassetts> winston: have you looked in the forum and on the wiki?
[06:02] <dooglus> gilligan_: why do you need marillat repos?
[06:02] <gilligan_> winston, you need to provide some more details
[06:02] <Toma-> mips: what package is broken?
[06:02] <livevil> Hi, does someone know a good mail manager, like outlook express. I have mail evolution and it doesn't work
[06:02] <Sir_Brizz> babo, what speed are you burning them at?
[06:02] <mips> but I've got the package name when I've tried to fix it through: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:02] <babo> Sir_Brizz, 4
[06:02] <mips> tzdata
[06:02] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: Now I try to do dpkg-rec....
[06:02] <apokryphos> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: you should
[06:02] <Frogzoo> livevil: evolution works, what's your problem?
[06:02] <winston> gilligan_ epson stylus photo 1280, i need a driver
[06:02] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: tnks
[06:02] <Sir_Brizz> babo, 4x CD write speed?
[06:02] <babo> Sir_Brizz, yes ... sudo cdrecord --dev=/dev/cdrom --speed=4 /home/babo/torrents/Pee*/Kiss*/Kiss*.avi
[06:02] <winston> Bassetts yes i havem it led me to gutenprint but i cant insstall it
[06:03] <dooglus> livevil: what does "it doesn't work" mean to you?
[06:03] <livevil> it can't send email and ask me pwd. But I have given it configuring my account.
[06:03] <Frogzoo> winston: this a USB local print? which make/model?
[06:03] <gilligan_> dooglus, first thing I wanted to install was w32codecs. But I guess I can just grab a .tgz of that as well
[06:03] <gnomefreak> winston: what error are you getting when you try to instlal them?
[06:03] <dooglus> livevil: you have to configure it correctly
[06:03] <winston> Frogzoo yes usb epson stylus photo 1280
[06:03] <babo> It burns it, then it can't read it ... :-(
[06:03] <winston> gnomefreak make[3] : Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
[06:03] <danfg> could someone tell me the name of a media player that plays both audio and video files?
[06:03] <livevil> which could be the error?
[06:03] <babo> repeatedly ... :-(
[06:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gilligan_ -about restricted
[06:03] <gilligan_> dooglus, but right now totem seems to play pretty much nothing hehe
[06:03] <thoreauputic> livevil: it appears to work for thousands of people...
[06:04] <Frogzoo> winston: dual print cartridge? one for colour/, one for b/w?
[06:04] <winston> gnomefreak and a bunch of others
[06:04] <dooglus> livevil: you can tick 'save password' if you want it to save your password
[06:04] <Sir_Brizz> babo, hmm not sure what's going on there... how old is the drive you're using? It should work at 32x, if it doesn't something is wrong
[06:04] <gnomefreak> winston: sudo apt-get install gutenprint
[06:04] <winston> Frogzoo yes
[06:04] <babo> Sir_Brizz, it's new ...
[06:04] <jUggERNAUt1980> my wireless hiccups with ubuntu now.
[06:04] <Sir_Brizz> babo, have you tried sepcifying specific files?
[06:04] <gnomefreak> more than likely youll need gimpprint also
[06:04] <jUggERNAUt1980> can anybody help me out with this?
[06:04] <gilligan_> gnomefreak, thanks
[06:04] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:04] <Bassetts> winston: have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=46110&postcount=4
[06:04] <Frogzoo> winston: aaarrrrggghhhh...... same problem here on lexmark z52 - the prob, I think, is it's trying to print in colour when there's only a b/w printhead
[06:04] <winston> gnomefreak cant find package
[06:04] <jUggERNAUt1980> somebody recommended kismet to me, but i don't know what i'm doing with it.
[06:04] <livevil> I've done, it isn't the proble, wait, I'll say you the exact message error
[06:05] <babo> Sir_Brizz, tried it on a couple of different avi files, and a number of different discs
[06:05] <gnomefreak> winston: checkt he forum that Bassetts posted
[06:05] <dooglus> gilligan_: I got w32codecs from marillat, and it's working fine.  I think that's the only reason I added his repo. line to my sources.list, and I commented it again after.
[06:05] <Sir_Brizz> babo, does burning from within Windows work okay?
[06:05] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: I think gutenprint replaces gimpprint in dapper
[06:05] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: ty
[06:05] <Zambezi> There's packaged for detecting portscan, but is there something to block external portscanning?
[06:05] <Frogzoo> Sir_Brizz: after a fashion ;)
[06:05] <babo> Sir_Brizz, don't know, I don't have samba set up so I can't transfer the files ...
[06:05] <Bassetts> wish i knew more about linux, i like to help people lol
[06:05] <Frogzoo> Sir_Brizz: linux can read cds burnt under windows, yes, if that's your question
[06:06] <mips> Toma, Everything's started during dapper installation, if I reinstall it will this error be gone??
[06:06] <Sir_Brizz> Frogzoo, lol :)
[06:06] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: you soon will if you keep at it :)
[06:06] <Toma-> mips: are you doing a dist-upgrade?
[06:06] <tony_> hi
[06:06] <Bassetts> im keeping at it, want to get this usplash changed though, but the howto in the forum does not work :(
[06:06] <Sir_Brizz> babo, has the burner ever worked that you know of?
[06:06] <mips> no
[06:06] <dooglus> babo: if you list the contents of the CD using Windows, do you see a single .iso file?  or a bunch of stuff?
[06:06] <gnomefreak> dooglus: the way restricted does it it just pulls that one package no depends for it so its "safe" adding the repo (reason whys its not advised) is because there are other libs and packages that can cause your depends to go nuts and poof broken
[06:07] <AngryElf> is it possible to enable vncviewer over ssh?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: yes
[06:07] <AngryElf> how?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: but freenx is better
[06:07] <Toma-> mips: hmmmm shouldnt break any packages...
[06:07] <thoreauputic> !freenx
[06:07] <ubotu> from memory, freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[06:07] <FireCat> Is there a kernel command line parameter you can pass in grub to boot to text mode?
[06:07] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I can't parse that. did you mix some words up?
[06:07] <Toma-> mips: what package is broken again?
[06:07] <mips> tzdata
[06:07] <Toma-> FireCat: yep, 1
[06:07] <mips> I guess
[06:07] <Toma-> or single
[06:08] <dooglus> gnomefreak: and who are you calling a broken poof?
[06:08] <babo> dooglus: windows doesn't see anything on the disc ... gives me an error i think ... I can check that again. It doesn't work though ...
[06:08] <rigonatti> apokryphos: Im back
[06:08] <winston> gnomefreak it appears i already have them installed
[06:08] <tony_> trying to install a program called knewspost - gui frontend for newspost. on configure it needs x includes so i installed libx11-dev  but i still get this message : Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths
[06:08] <FireCat> Toma: Does 3 work for text mode multiuser?
[06:08] <gnomefreak> dooglus: the system mixing debian libs with ubuntu one
[06:08] <GazzaK> gnomefreak, I ain't broken?
[06:08] <gnomefreak> s
[06:08] <zOap> is there an xvid codec for totem?
[06:08] <winston> gnomefreak how do i get it configured so the printer can work?
[06:08] <Frogzoo> FireCat: would the option 'single' to boot to single user do? otherwise, it gets complicated
[06:08] <tony_> can anyone help on that one?
[06:08] <Toma-> FireCat: not sure
[06:08] <dooglus> babo: you need to use a CD that's big enough to hold the iso image.  writing a 700Mb iso to a 650Mb CD won't work.
[06:08] <apokryphos> zOap: faq
[06:08] <gnomefreak> winston: did you read the post from the forums?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> tony_: you are compiling and it kind find the headers I suspect
[06:08] <prgrmr>  after update to dapper "javac" stop working
[06:08] <thoreauputic> s/kind/can't
[06:08] <zOap> apokryphos, on the totem website?
[06:08] <AngryElf> thoreauputic, i'd rather just enable VNC so i can use that....how can I enable the server remotely?
[06:09] <chmod775> I am trying to play a VCD in xine
[06:09] <Sir_Brizz> babo, has the burner ever worked that you know of?
[06:09] <chmod775> but it gives me a demux error
[06:09] <chmod775> ?
[06:09] <apokryphos> zOap: in /topic here
[06:09] <mips> how can I see all broken packagees?
[06:09] <dr_willis> AngryElf,  i just ssh into the box and manually start the vncserver
[06:09] <chmod775> help me
[06:09] <tony_> thoreauputic, how can i help it find them?
[06:09] <godfather> hi guys
[06:09] <zOap> apokryphos, ok, thanks
[06:09] <Frogzoo> FireCat: no, 3 won't work - in ubuntu - all runlevels are the same - but you could modify runlevel 3 to remove gdm
[06:09] <gnomefreak> mips: sudo apt-get -f install    will fix all broekn packages
[06:09] <godfather> i'm looking for
[06:09] <babo> Sir_Brizz: hmm ... yes, I burned dapper iso from it no probs.
[06:09] <dr_willis> AngryElf,  or you can set vnc to startup when you vnc into the box and get a gdm login. :) but its not a persistant vnc session then
[06:09] <FireCat> Ok, I'll try 1
[06:09] <babo> Can I just throw some pastebin data at you ? ...
[06:09] <prgrmr> after update to dapper "javac" stop working, what can i do?
[06:09] <babo> http://pastebin.ca/64363
[06:09] <godfather> some program taht allows me to listen radio
[06:10] <Sir_Brizz> babo, was that in linux or Windows?
[06:10] <babo> :-)
[06:10] <AngryElf> dr_willis, i dont know how to manually start the server......that's what iw as asking
[06:10] <babo> Sir_Brizz: it was in breezy ...
[06:10] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=vnc+over+ssh  <-- lots there
[06:10] <Sir_Brizz> babo, hmmmm
[06:10] <mips> gnomefreak, I've got some errors with this command
[06:10] <dr_willis> AngryElf,  'vncserver' is the command .:P
[06:10] <Frogzoo> anyone know how to reenable the cups web interface that's disabled by default?
[06:10] <chmod775> I am trying to play a VCD in xine
[06:10] <chmod775> help me
[06:10] <chmod775> but it gives me a demux error
[06:10] <gnomefreak> mips: you typed it the way i did right you didnt use a package name?
[06:11] <dr_willis> AngryElf,  ive used vnc for ages the 'vnc showing the current gnome desktop' is a relativly recent feature. :P you can have a dozen vnc sessions running but not 'seen' locally
[06:11] <burepe2> Frogzoo: You are a genius! so simple yet so right
[06:11] <Bassetts> how can i make it so i can log into cups?
[06:11] <AngryElf> no it's not :(
[06:11] <Frogzoo> burepe2: oh cool - glad that worked for you
[06:11] <dooglus> livevil: did you get the error message?  I missed it if you did.
[06:11] <mips> ya
[06:11] <dr_willis> Bassetts,  you mean use the web interface to cups?
[06:11] <Bassetts> yes
[06:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell winston -about print
[06:11] <babo> Sir_Brizz, is it normal that /dev/cdrom would be a symbolic link to hda ?
[06:11] <Frogzoo> dr_willis: yes please, how?
[06:11] <AngryElf> dr_willis, vncserver is not a command :(
[06:11] <gnomefreak> mips: poaste the command and errors on pastebin please
[06:11] <chmod775> !xine
[06:11] <ubotu> chmod775: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:11] <mips> I'm talkin about it with Toma for a long
[06:11] <Sir_Brizz> babo, no
[06:11] <livevil> no, I don't
[06:11] <Toma-> mips: sorry, im kinda busy :(
[06:11] <livevil> Just a second
[06:11] <Sir_Brizz> babo, do the discs come out unreadable or just blank?
[06:11] <burepe2> Yeah!
[06:12] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[06:12] <babo> Sir_Brizz: unreadable for the most part ...
[06:12] <tony_> How could i help a configure find a package i have installed? in this case libx11 (its asking for x includes)
[06:12] <godfather> giys i have a beta version of dapper drake
[06:12] <dr_willis> Bassetts,  its mentioned in the forum/wikis - ya need to edit a samba config file, and  2 commands to get the perms right.  cups has a few little issues in dapper. let me find a url
[06:12] <Frogzoo> babo: only when your cdrom is master on the first ide channel
[06:12] <Bassetts> dr_willis: my printer is all setup (hp deskjet 970Cxi) but i cannot configure it frop HPLIP as it uses cups web interface
[06:12] <jbroome> godfather: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:12] <gnomefreak> godfather: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:12] <mips> the errors are witten in anwother lawnguage by terminal
[06:12] <babo> Frogzoo: hmmm ...
[06:12] <mips> u won't understand
[06:12] <godfather> can i use synaptic?
[06:12] <dr_willis> Bassetts,  it a common faq in the forums and may be a wiki item by now.
[06:12] <gnomefreak> mips: what language?
[06:13] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: we have the same issue - would really like to know how to reenable the cups web interface
[06:13] <winston> gnomefreak i read it all, it still asks me for my driver!?! it detects the right printeer and all, but asks me for the driver!?! where is the pddd?????
[06:13] <mips> portuguese
[06:13] <dr_willis> AngryElf,  install the full vncserver then.
[06:13] <babo> Frogzoo: the problem only seems to occur on .avi's though ...
[06:13] <gnomefreak> mips: join #ubuntu-pt
[06:13] <Sir_Brizz> babo, my /dev/cdrom is pointing at .dev.hdc
[06:13] <gnomefreak> they can help you
[06:13] <Bassetts> dr_willis: ok, i have seen it somewhere, but cannot find it anywhere now
[06:13] <Sir_Brizz> .->/
[06:13] <babo> Sir_Brizz, oh - that sounds about right then ...
[06:13] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: sudo adduser cupsys shadow
[06:13] <winston> gnomefreak ive seen that page, thats why im here
[06:13] <sladen> Bassetts: ignore the forum, see the wiki!
[06:14] <Bassetts> ok sladen
[06:14] <dr_willis> Bassetts,  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2072 has a lot of info..and a lot of rants. :P
[06:14] <dooglus> babo: you're burning the .avi file as an ISO I think?  you need to make a filesystem
[06:14] <winston> gnomefreak i recognizes my printer, bu still asks for a driver which I cant find?? where is it?
[06:14] <gnomefreak> winston: than you dont have the drivers installed and you should read the hardware site. /msg ubotu hardware  <<type that and click the link ubotu sends you and look how to installl drivers after you find your printer
[06:14] <livevil> I'm purchaising pop and smpt server
[06:14] <winston> gnomefreak the printer is not in there
[06:14] <Sir_Brizz> babo, it sees strange it would be pointing at 'hda' though instead of /dev/hda if it really is the first drive in your systemn
[06:15] <babo> Sir_Brizz, dooglus: windows tells me 'drive is not accessible - incorrect function' ....
[06:15] <gnomefreak> winston: than more than likely its not supported  im not sure if epsons drivers will work in cups
[06:15] <babo> Sir_Brizz, /dev/cdrom: symbolic link to `hda'
[06:15] <dooglus> babo: are you making a filesystem for the CD?
[06:15] <Sir_Brizz> babo, that makes it seem like it's not burning in ISO9660 format...
[06:15] <winston> gnomefreak it says that gutenprint works for my printer
[06:16] <sladen> dr_willis: can you respond to that kdeddeveopers.org page and say  "if something needs fixing, please file a bug or send a patch"
[06:16] <babo> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:16] <babo> this is what it's mounted as ...
[06:16] <Sir_Brizz> babo, my stat /dev/cdrom returns  File: `/dev/cdrom' -> `/dev/hdc'
[06:16] <winston> gnomefreak how do i find the pdd file to point it to??? where is it in the filesystem???
[06:16] <gnomefreak> winston: than install it restart cups and choose the printer and leave the driver on what it says
[06:16] <sladen> dr_willis: there's about a dozen people paid to work on (k)ubuntu.  all the rest is from people like you or me
[06:16] <dr_willis> sladen,  problem is its not a 'bug' in cups.. the original cups works. - its their 'tweaks' that broke it.
[06:16] <dooglus> babo: you seem to be burning a .avi file as if it was a CD image file.  it isn't
[06:16] <dr_willis> sladen,  the 'fix' i hear is to use the cups packages from debian. :P
[06:17] <gnomefreak> winston: are you using the cups interface?
[06:17] <dr_willis> sladen,  and yes - its geting a lot of 'heated discussion' i hear.
[06:17] <winston> gnomefreak dont know what cups interface is--- how do i restart it?
[06:17] <babo> dooglus: isn't it ?
[06:17] <babo> what is it then ? I thought it was just a data cd ?
[06:17] <dooglus> babo: no, it isn't.  you're trying to write a data cd, right?
[06:17] <sladen> dr_willis: s/their/our/.  In which case, file a bug that *our* tweaks broke it and how to fix it
[06:17] <tony_> Hi all! configure script cant find X includes - what do i need? pls help!
[06:18] <babo> dooglus: yes ...
[06:18] <sladen> dr_willis: if the fix is to pull from Debian, then we can do that.  please file a bug about it
[06:18] <thoreauputic> winston: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[06:18] <adamant1988> What are some good applications to test out WINE with?
[06:18] <gilligan_> hm.. isn't there a vim7 package for dapper?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> winston: close everything your looking at except your irc client than click on system>admin>printing   i think it is
[06:18] <gnomefreak> gilligan_: no
[06:18] <dooglus> babo: "The file with track data should contain an ISO-9660 or Rock Ridge filesystem image (see mkisofs for more details)" (copied from 'man cdrecord's docs for the -data flag - the default flag)
[06:18] <livevil> It isn't a problem of evolution. I've just read that my email doesn't work with other providers. I should have adsl with the same provider that offer me mail service!!!!
[06:18] <dr_willis> sladen,  its been filed as far as i know. of course my problem is totally different from theirs.. :P my printer goes offline after every print.
[06:18] <gnomefreak> gilligan_: vim7 will be in edgy
[06:18] <dooglus> babo: it's much easier to use a front end to burn CDs
[06:19] <sladen> dr_willis: okay, can you file a bug about that too
[06:19] <gilligan_> gnomefreak, k..
[06:19] <winston> gnomefreak im there it just says new printer (icon)
[06:19] <stevejesus> hey all
[06:19] <dr_willis> sladen, :) file a bug about a bug.. for a bug. :P   Im scared if i google this too much on the ubuntu forums.. my pc will explode from the flamefest.
[06:20] <Bassetts> i cant add cups to shadow
[06:20] <stevejesus> i lost my menu in konqueror, does anyone know how to get it back?
[06:20] <winston> gnomefreak its the same, after i click new printer it knows which printer i hac=ve but when i click next it asks me for my driver!?!?!?
[06:21] <mips> gnomefreak, I've pasted the error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15547
[06:21] <Alfred_> does anyone know how I make Xchat automatically log on different servers and channels I've configured it to? Is this possible?
[06:21] <thoreauputic> Bassetts:  sudo adduser cupsys shadow
[06:21] <Bassetts> i did that
[06:21] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: and?
[06:21] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: isnt it useradd?
[06:21] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: not necessary
[06:21] <winston> gnomefreak whether or not i choose detected printer or by specifying port (which also detects my printer) it still asks for a driver??
[06:21] <Weirdbro> Firefox crashes when I close a tab with a Youtube movie. Why would that happen?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: adduser is easier
[06:22] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: and i got an error saying the variables are not right
[06:22] <sladen> dr_willis: unfortunately, ubuntu forums is not, er, always, the answer
[06:22] <stevejesus> anyone here good with konqueror?
[06:22] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: and then a list of variables
[06:22] <k31th> Anyone else having problems on freenode ? where people keep trying to dcc you crap ?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: odd - works here
[06:22] <winston> gnomefreak isnt there a way to point it to gutenprint somehow????
[06:22] <babo> dooglus: ok, how should I burn it then (using gnomebaker) ... ? ... thanks
[06:22] <sladen> !tell stevejesus about justask
[06:22] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: adduser works
[06:22] <Bassetts> thoreauputic:thanks
[06:22] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys.  since the ATi 8.25 drivers are broken, where can I get the 8.24?
[06:22] <kenalex> does anyone know of any shoutcast players
[06:22] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: OK :)
[06:22] <eyequeue> k31th, the spambots were at that last night
[06:22] <kenalex> for ubuntu
[06:22] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: hi
[06:23] <dr_willis> sladen,  heh - im doing some googling right now.. seems theres a great deal of upset people.. but none have my same issue. Im still wondering why the  system is detecting 2 printers on parallel ports i dont have. :P
[06:23] <apokryphos> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: hey
[06:23] <winston> gnomefreak I read gutenprint will do the job for this printer, but I need to point it tp the driver??? where tdo I find the driver on my system??? gutenprint??? where is it?
[06:23] <Frogzoo> thx thoreauputic worked like a charm
[06:23] <k31th> eyequeue: yeah
[06:23] <stevejesus> ive lost my application menu on konqueror, and i cant seem to find how to get it back.
[06:23] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: no worries :)
[06:23] <k31th> loosers
[06:23] <sladen> dr_willis: what printer do you have?
[06:23] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: ty, works perfect now
[06:23] <ampamman3> Anyone know how to run java webstart from the livecd? I tried installing it from the selfextracting executable, but it says javaws_home is not set. I tried setting it to everything i could think of, and nothing works
[06:23] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: you're welcome :)
[06:24] <Bassetts> why cant someone post a howto that easy?
[06:24] <dr_willis> sladen,  a hp laserjet 6l - 10 yrs old.. been a no-issue-at-all with cups for the last 8+ years. :) i think.   only now with dapper its an issue.. it worked fine with the dapper betas even
[06:24] <winston> gnomefreak Can i search for the PDD file on my system???
[06:24] <Bassetts> theres only bits of information here and there that you have to patch together for cups to work
[06:24] <oezguer> hi everybody
[06:24] <busa> hi
[06:24] <dooglus> babo: i never tried.  i used nero on windows personally, 'cos that's where the dvd writer is
[06:24] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: I've tried to do dpkg-recon.... without write the card config but only write the monitor config. But when I reboot and type fglrxinfo the driver used is "Mesa" and not "ATI"
[06:24] <Frogzoo> winston: the driver in all probability is already there - just click on "driver" & select your printer
[06:25] <oezguer> i need converter , wmv or anything to GP3  ,,
[06:25] <oezguer> anyhelp?
[06:25] <apokryphos> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: you have to select "ati" on the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:25] <busa> can anyone pls tell me how to write on a fat 32 partition?
[06:25] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: yes
[06:25] <ampamman3> running java says Error: could not find libjava.so
[06:25] <prgrmr> after update to dapper "javac" stop working, what can i do?
[06:25] <stevejesus> busa, just mount it.  then write away.
[06:25] <winston> Frogzoo the driver area is grey, i can only click install driver and it asks me to find the driver???? where is it?? please?
[06:25] <mips> has someone here ecer used allegro throung Anjuta?
[06:25] <Alfred_> nobody knows how to configure Xchat into automatically logging on channels?
[06:26] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: My card in dpkg-rec.... seems recognize exactly
[06:26] <mips> *ecer = ever
[06:26] <KanRiNiN> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: same problem here
[06:26] <busa> i cannot change etc/fstab
[06:26] <gnomefreak> winston: http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-doc.html
[06:26] <oezguer> is there a Converter wmv avi or anything to GP3?????????
[06:26] <KanRiNiN> the installer also didn't create the needed tmpfs, so I edited my fstab
[06:26] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: should i add a wiki page on it?
[06:26] <eyequeue> Alfred_, Channels to join:
[06:27] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: why not? check though - there might be one already
[06:27] <Alfred_> eyequeue, channels to join? what do you mean?
[06:27] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: X start only with driver mesa. With ATI driver (installer) it dosn't find the monitor
[06:27] <winston> gnomefreak Ive been throught that already
[06:27] <babo> dooglus: I don't have any cdrecord data flag ... so do it's not a data cd and it's not a data iso then ... I guess gnome doesn't do it ...
[06:27] <eyequeue> Alfred_, ^S, choose the server you want, then edit
[06:27] <prgrmr> after update to dapper "javac" stop working, what can i do?
[06:27] <thoreauputic> Alfred_: Settings - preferences - logging
[06:27] <Bassetts> a search for cups turns up cups-pdf and HOWTO-enable-cups-browsing
[06:27] <apokryphos> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: weird
[06:27] <dooglus> babo: -data is the default in cdrecord - see 'msn cdrecord'
[06:28] <Bassetts> the cups browsing is for servers though
[06:28] <winston> gnomefreak what do I need to do ??? Im baffled -- I need to have a working printer else ubuntu is no good as a standalone desktop
[06:28] <gnomefreak> winston: it says first or 2nd thing that the drivers come with the ppd
[06:28] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: how can i do?
[06:28] <Alfred_> eyequeue, thoreauputic: thoreauputic, are you sure that's where I configure it? Isn't that just a logging option?
[06:28] <thoreauputic> Alfred_: unless you have the castrated gnome xchat, in which case install xchat
[06:28] <apokryphos> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: I'm not sure I'm afraid :/
[06:28] <thoreauputic> Alfred_: I thought you asked about logging?
[06:28] <eyequeue> Alfred_, ^S, choose the server network you want, then press edit
[06:28] <Alfred_> thoreauputic, I did a # apt-get install xchat
[06:29] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: dpkg-recon.... recognize my disply as generic monitor
[06:29] <gnomefreak> winston: sudo apt-get install gimpprint gutenprint   <<start there
[06:29] <thoreauputic> Alfred_: that should be the full version then
[06:29] <grogoreo> hi
[06:29] <nicholaspaul> I have a weird problem: When I use sudo, it asks for my password and then does nothing. Is Sudo broken??
[06:29] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: does 'sudo id' work?
[06:30] <thoreauputic> Alfred_: the logs are in ~/.xchat/xchatlogs IIRC
[06:30] <grogoreo> how can I download a folder from an FTP server using Linuxes ftp command? When ever I tried it said that it could only download files. GFtp is mucking up for some reason
[06:30] <godfather> tnxguys
[06:30] <winston> gnomefreak heres the page for my printer, i dont see a pdd http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_1280
[06:30] <eyequeue> nicholaspaul, sudo echo foo
[06:30] <busa> stevejesus , my fat32 partition is mounted on boot and i don't know how to modify my etc/fstab ... can i edit it with something like sudo-x
[06:30] <danfg> i just installed build-essential, but when i do configure and make, bash says these commands are not found
[06:30] <busa> ?
[06:30] <thoreauputic> Alfred_: ah, ~/.xchat2/
[06:30] <danfg> oops, wait, make is there, where is configure
[06:30] <winston> gnomefreak cant find package
[06:30] <godfather> it seems working good with sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:31] <nicholaspaul> eyequeue: same thing, just the next prompt.
[06:31] <Infecto> is there sosmething messed up with acpi ?
[06:31] <dooglus> danfg: in '.', usually
[06:31] <winston> gnomefreak besides in synaptic it appears that i have them already
[06:31] <livevil> Hi, does exist a first person game downloadable from synaptic (free)
[06:31] <ic56> grogoreo: traditional command line ftp can download using wildcards but it cannot span multiple directories.  wget can do a recursive download.
[06:31] <nicholaspaul> dooglus: no. Doesnt work.
[06:31] <Infecto> i`v got problems witch charging my laptop batery
[06:31] <eyequeue> danfg, ./configure only works if there is such a script in the current directory
[06:31] <SurfnKid> Goaaaaal Mexico!
[06:31] <gnomefreak> winston: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[06:31] <oezguer> is there a Converter wmv avi or anything to GP3?????????
[06:31] <eyequeue> nicholaspaul, no echo?
[06:31] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: 'type sudo' <-- what's that do?
[06:31] <winston> i just need that damened ppd
[06:31] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:31] <mystamax> SurfnKid: hey im watchin it too!
[06:31] <Alfred_> thoreauputic, eyequeue: thanks a lot guys! clicking once on the servers, followed by hitting the "Edit" button solved it. I guess... I'll restart xchat to confirm it. :)
[06:31] <nicholaspaul> eyequeue:  nope
[06:31] <grogoreo> ic56, but I'm trying to download from an FTP server. Can wget download from one?
[06:31] <SurfnKid> sorry
[06:31] <winston> gnomefreak what pastebin?
[06:31] <B0FH> can i get some assistance with my wireless problem?
[06:31] <corhere> there's some wierdness with the livecd installer's partitioning tool, it shows the entire disk as empty, while cfdisk shows the partitions correctly. How do I fix this? (I want to resize the windows fat32 partition so I need to use gparted)
[06:31] <ic56> nicholaspaul: define "Doesnt work".  What's teh error message?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell winston -about pastebin
[06:31] <eyequeue> nicholaspaul, odd
[06:32] <danfg> eyequeue, Infecto: d'oh (for me)! thanks :)
[06:32] <Scorpmoon> are newer Ati cards supported by Ubuntu?
[06:32] <ic56> grogoreo: yes. wget speaks FTP as well as HTTP.
[06:32] <nicholaspaul> dooglus says 'sudo is hashed (usr/bin/sudo)
[06:32] <dooglus> babo: gnomebaker can make data cds
[06:32] <em123> can someone help me with a strange 'aptitude update' problem on dapper?
[06:32] <Infecto> danfg: ? dan=dan ?
[06:32] <Infecto> ;] 
[06:32] <babo> dooglus: darn, it appears that the file is 701MB ...
[06:32] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: did you use 'expert' install?
[06:32] <nicholaspaul> ic56: by 'doesnt work' I mean it doesnt return anything. I just get the next prompt in terminal
[06:32] <nicholaspaul> dooglus: no i upgraded from Breezy
[06:32] <gnomefreak> em123: you might have to tell us that the issue is
[06:32] <winston> gnomefreak does the page i sen t you help?
[06:33] <nicholaspaul> dooglus: this is Dapper.
[06:33] <B0FH> the signal drops the connection mid-transfer and then it won't detect any networks after that.
[06:33] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: are you in group 'admin'?
[06:33] <gnomefreak> winston: i told you what to install
[06:33] <Alfred__> eyequeue, thoreauputic: Yup, it worked. Thanks!
[06:33] <gnomefreak> winston: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[06:33] <em123> I get 404 errors even for the most basic deb lines...
[06:33] <thoreauputic> Alfred__: :)
[06:33] <nicholaspaul> dooglus:  i'll check
[06:33] <oezguer> any Converter???
[06:33] <B0FH> it seems very random.
[06:33] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: type 'groups'
[06:33] <stevejesus> can anyone tell me how to manage plugins in firefox?  i am about to install quicktime, but i dont want it to play quicktimes in my browser, i would like for mplayer to continue doing so.
[06:33] <winston> gnomefreak yeas but its already appears installed when i go in synaptic advanced
[06:33] <danfg> brb
[06:34] <busa> can someone tell me how to "sudo edit" a file?
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> dooglus:  i'm in adm
[06:34] <stevejesus> because it is slow, and mplayer actually plays quicktime 7 content.
[06:34] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: you need to be in 'admin'
[06:34] <eyequeue> busa, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:34] <gnomefreak> winston: my epson works fine im telling you how to fix yours to work if your not gonna do what i suggest than i cant help you
[06:34] <em123> and I have no idea what could go wrong ... never had such issue w/ Debian nor breezy...
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> busa Type 'sudo gedit FILENAME'
[06:34] <thoreauputic> busa: try gksudo gedit "/path/to/file"
[06:34] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: do you have a root password set?
[06:34] <babo> dooglus: what am I supposed to do now ? ... do you reckon ?
[06:34] <godfather> see you later
[06:34] <busa> 10x
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> dooglus: i just use my user pass
[06:35] <winston> gnomefreak Im trying my best please --
[06:35] <winston> gnomefreak  where do i upload my source on that page?
[06:35] <B0FH> is there any way i can set my wifi to accept a weaker signal?
[06:35] <gnomefreak> winston: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[06:35] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: interesting.  and when you "sudo id", do you see any message?  or just your prompt back?
[06:35] <Subhuman> BOFH, use a better antenna.
[06:35] <eyequeue> busa, sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces, if you don't do gui
[06:35] <nicholaspaul> dooglus: just the prompt back.
[06:35] <dooglus> babo: try using gnomebaker.  I've not tried, but I guess it's quite easy.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> winston: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"   once it opens paste the contents to pastebin
[06:36] <B0FH> the way that i get my access is by connecting to open networks.
[06:36] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: what if you run "sudo visudo"?  the same?
[06:36] <winston> gnomefreak  i want to--- bu ti dont see anything marked pste bin on the page you sent me
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> babo:  i use gnomebaker all the time, yup its easy! Great app.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> !p-astebin
[06:36] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> dooglus: yea, the same
[06:36] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[06:36] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:36] <B0FH> when i had xp on my system, it would connect to different networks at low signal strength, but now it won't conect to any of them with linux.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> qwinopent he first link in what ubotu said
[06:36] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: "sudo -i"?
[06:36] <gnomefreak> winston: `^^^
[06:36] <aky> does anybody have experience with syncronizing PDA with Dapper, because i tried to follod the instructions on the forum but i have a problem.
[06:36] <babo> dooglus: I'm using gnomebaker at the moment ... :-(
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> dooglus: nada
[06:36] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: "sudo -s"?
[06:37] <nicholaspaul> dooglus:  ditto
[06:37] <babo> The movie is 701MB, but the cd is 700MB
[06:37] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: I'm looking for a # in the prompt
[06:37] <babo> dooglus ^^
[06:37] <DooMRunneR> hi
[06:37] <oezguer> any Converter???  to gp3  help pls
[06:37] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: are you in the "admin" group? Type "groups" to see
[06:37] <nicholaspaul> dooglus:  sudo -l says "User may not run sudo on localhost"
[06:37] <winston> gnomefreak  i am on the page--- <
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic: no i'm not. how do i add? The Users GUI is missing from my menu
[06:38] <winston> gnomefreak  do i click on submit APP ??? i dont know where your pastebin is on that page???
[06:38] <gnomefreak> winston: run the command i gave you in a terminal and paste the contents of the file that opens into the pastebin page that you are on
[06:38] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: you used the "expert" install, didn't you?
[06:38] <Infecto>  telnet ascii-wm.net 2006
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic: no, i upgraded from Breezy
[06:38] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: or are you using a second or third user?
[06:38] <burepe2> What is the best way to add other languages to ubuntu? I tried System>Administration>language support but it only listed english.
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic: no i'm the main user.
[06:39] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: very odd
[06:39] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: OK, I see.  I thought there was a message like "you're not allowed to use sudo, this incident will be reported".  maybe it got removed in dapper.
[06:39] <kenalex_> wazzup
[06:39] <winston> gnomefreak  where do I enter information on that page??? i jdont see anywhere ot post???? plz help
[06:39] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: the sole problem seems to be that you're not in the admin group.  can you boot into rescue mode and add yourself?
[06:39] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: catch 22 - you need sudo rights to use visudo
[06:39] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic: dooglus yup this is odd! Praps I should have stayed with Breezy.
[06:39] <winston> gnomefreak http://www.pastebin.com
[06:39] <kenalex_> does anyone know how i can get shoutcast audio files to play in ubuntu (mp3 streams)
[06:39] <gnomefreak> winston: the big blank area ont he page is where you are gonna paste the contents of the file i asked you to open
[06:39] <nicholaspaul> dooglus: sure . Whats the command line to do that?
[06:39] <winston> gnomefreak E: Couldn't find package gimpprint
[06:40] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: if you boot into recovery/rescue do you get a root prompt ?
[06:40] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: when you boot, don't you see a list of options, with one being something like 'rescue'?
[06:40] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic: i havent tried
[06:40] <gnomefreak> winston: because you dont have the right repos enabled
[06:40] <u01p2109> _
[06:40] <nicholaspaul> dooglus: yea i think so. Its in one of the menus on the startup screen.
[06:40] <u01p2109> kenalex_: xmms
[06:40] <winston> gnomefreak how do i do that in dapper?
[06:40] <gnomefreak> winston: look type in terminal gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:40] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: try it - if you get a root prompt, type  adduser <yourusername> admin
[06:40] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: right.  you need that.  when you get a root prompt, type "adduser nicholaspaul admin"
[06:40] <ampamman3> cool. i need to get some of those new eps then
[06:40] <gnomefreak> winston: let me know when its open
[06:41] <winston> gnomefreak do i click on submit a bug?? thereis no blank area on the page you sent me to for this pastebin
[06:41] <kenalex_> mp3 files are not playing ubuntu
[06:41] <kenalex_> where can i get the codecs and how to install them
[06:41] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic: dooglus ok, I'll try that. I'll be back soon! Thx folks
[06:41] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[06:41] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:41] <gnomefreak> winston: click ont he firwst link
[06:41] <gnomefreak> open it
[06:41] <adamant1988> kenalex_:  try easy ubuntu
[06:41] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[06:41] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:41] <adamant1988> !easyubuntu
[06:41] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:41] <dooglus> babo: you might be lucky and fit 701Mb onto a 700Mb CD
[06:42] <winston> gnomefreak its open
[06:42] <winston> what the name of the link for pastebin
[06:42] <thoreauputic> !pastebin
[06:42] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:42] <gnomefreak> ok now in terminal type the command i gave you
[06:42] <gnomefreak> winston: wait on that for now
[06:42] <gnomefreak> just leave pastebin open and put it to the side
[06:43] <Concord_Dawn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:43] <Zambezi> winston: http://pastebin.com
[06:43] <mips> procurei no apt-get e no synaptic mas na naun axei esse pacote
[06:43] <gnomefreak> mips: #ubuntu-pt
[06:43] <gnomefreak> winston: let me know when the file is open
[06:43] <Zambezi> There's packaged for detecting portscan, but is there something to block external portscanning?
[06:43] <aet> "mount -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc1" always gives me "mount: /dev/hdc1 already mounted or /media/hdc1 busy" although its not mounted
[06:43] <mips> sorry I've I've commmit a mistake
[06:43] <babo> what type of file system should a usb be mounted as ?
[06:44] <winston> gnomefreak its open
[06:44] <Concord_Dawn> Zambezi: No. You just cloak your ports.
[06:44] <_Mr_Denix_> Hey guyz ! I'm back :P
[06:44] <Ribs> babo: depends what it's formatted as
[06:44] <gnomefreak> winston: now copy and paste all thats in the file to the big white area on the pastebin page than click submit
[06:44] <Ribs> babo: it's usually vfat on commercial mass storage devices...
[06:44] <thoreauputic> ;)
[06:44] <gnomefreak> or send whatever it says
[06:44] <_Mr_Denix_> :))))
[06:44] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: any luck?
[06:44] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN HIDE >:)
[06:45] <ic56> aet: if it says it's mounted it is -- just not where you expect it to be.  Try "mount |grep hdc1"  to find out where it's mounted
[06:45] <winston> gnomefreak ok done
[06:45] <Zambezi> Concord_Dawn: I have IPCop with a cople of ports opened. And it's five numbers so it's not a common port.
[06:45] <gnomefreak> winston: the page it gives you can you please [paste me the link
[06:45] <aet> ic56: no output :(
[06:45] <andrea_b> Hi guys! I have a little problem with Xorg and video player: when I switch resolution (e.g. from 1600x1200 to 1024x768), all my video players (mplayer, totem, etc) don't work: apparently the players work fine, but the screen stay black or blue. What can I do?
[06:45] <winston> gnomefreak  i did it on pastebin.com the otehr page had nothing to ...
[06:45] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic seems like i have managed to solve the non-responsive program problems ( like the update and synaptic and all like that ) i'm updating linux downloading a new xmms and hopefuly install it using synaptic
[06:45] <gnomefreak> winston: where ever just need the link please
[06:45] <ic56> aet: and when you try to mount now, what error do you get?
[06:45] <aet> ic56: i never had a problem like this before
[06:45] <[0x90] > essa merda do azureus nao sai
[06:46] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: excellent :)
[06:46] <gnomefreak> [0x90] : spanish?
[06:46] <winston> gnomefreak  query failure hold on a sec
[06:46] <[0x90] > sorry
[06:46] <Concord_Dawn> Zambezi: Like I said, you can't block other people from port scanning.
[06:46] <[0x90] > i am portuguese
[06:46] <aet> ic56: same thing
[06:46] <winston> gnomefreak  query failure
[06:46] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: (yes, I'm still here :( ) Congrats!
[06:46] <gnomefreak> [0x90] : join #ubuntu-pt
[06:46] <[0x90] > thanks
[06:46] <thoreauputic> !pt
[06:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:46] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic thanks mate
[06:46] <[0x90] > i typed on the wrong place
[06:46] <gnomefreak> winston: paste me the link in the channel
[06:46] <ic56> aet: "same thing" = no output?
[06:46] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: no worries :)
[06:46] <gnomefreak> winston: just the link
[06:46] <aet> ic56: and i just created /media/hdc1
[06:46] <Concord_Dawn> You can simply secure yourself against it as much as possible. The best way to do it is to block every IP but the ones you choose.
[06:46] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass also my thanks go to you
[06:46] <winston> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php
[06:46] <_Mr_Denix_> i'm starting to like this :)
[06:46] <winston> gnomefreak i keep getting queryfailyure
[06:46] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Sorry I couldn't be more helpful :(
[06:47] <aet> ic56: mount fails
[06:47] <_Mr_Denix_> you did more than i would have expected ! nothing to be sorry about ! on the contrary !
[06:47] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass you did more than i would have expected ! nothing to be sorry about ! on the contrary !
[06:47] <thoreauputic> neutrinomass: you did a lot - no apologies needed
[06:47] <winston> gnomefreak this is freaking me out, cant i just copy it in a private msg
[06:47] <ic56> aet: answer the question.  If you keep changing things around between questions, then I cannot troubleshoot reliably.
[06:48] <Zambezi> Concord_Dawn: I blocked respond to ping on all interfaces, I change in sshd_config so I can access from just one IP, and I set block all IP in deny. That should be a good start.
[06:48] <Concord_Dawn> You should be pretty safe then.
[06:48] <gnomefreak> winston: what is so hard about copying and pasting the stuff in that file to the blank part on the pastebin site
[06:48] <winston> gnomefreak the gnomefiles link you sent me has no pastebine and the pastebin.com doesnt work
[06:48] <aet> ic56: "mount|grep hdc1" gives me no output
[06:48] <zOap> in the faq it says install libxine-extracodecs but apt says its not there
[06:48] <babo> so I have a usb device from which I've deleted everything, but it still shows up as full in gnome and the cli ... ?
[06:48] <dooglus> winston: go to snurl.com/upaste
[06:48] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[06:48] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[06:48] <winston> gnomefreak thats not hard!!! i did it and i get a query failure
[06:48] <Concord_Dawn> What's your public IP? I can portscan you to check your security if you want.
[06:48] <andrea_b> hey guys, can you try it? if you have the same problem we can do a bug report, don't we?
[06:49] <aet> ic56: "mount -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc1" gives me "mount: /dev/hdc1 already mounted or /media/hdc1 busy"
[06:49] <gnomefreak> winston: got ot hte site dooglus just gave you
[06:49] <zOap> what should I install to get divx support then? I use dapper
Hi guys! I have a little problem with Xorg and video player: when I switch resolution (e.g. from 1600x1200 to 1024x768), all my video players (mplayer, totem, etc) don't work: apparently the players work fine, but the screen stay black or blue. What can I do?</autoquote>
[06:49] <winston> gnomefreak going there
[06:49] <Ribs> andrea_b: Try another driver within your media players... It should like your overlay is no longer working...
[06:49] <ic56> aet: do you know how to use pastebin?
[06:50] <babo> dooglus: it says 701MB used - 1.75MB remaining ...
[06:50] <babo> this is a really annoying problem ... because my usb won't work properly now either ...
[06:51] <andrea_b> Ribs: I tried all the drivers, apparently only GL driver with mplayer works, but I need the others too
[06:51] <winston> gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15553
[06:51] <babo> although it suggest that the whole thing is 701MB ... :-(
[06:51] <Ribs> andrea_b: I've never encountered your problem, so I'm not of much help...
[06:51] <Ribs> andrea_b: What graphics card and driver is this?
[06:51] <aet> ic56: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/uM3ps410.html
[06:52] <andrea_b> Ribs: geforce 4 with nvidia driver, in the ubuntu rep
[06:52] <chris^^> i have a big problem
[06:52] <Ribs> hrm
[06:52] <babo> Ribs: so should I hit 'create data disk' or 'copy data cd' ?
[06:52] <Ribs> I don't know andrea_b, sorry
[06:52] <chris^^> i killed my account with wrong usergroup
[06:52] <chris^^> i set usermod -G ftpuser chris
[06:52] <rigonatti> apokryphos ?
[06:52] <Ribs> babo: what?
[06:52] <chris^^> what must i do, that the account is working again?
[06:52] <andrea_b> Ribs: can you tell me how to do a serious bug report?
[06:52] <chris^^> i can't use sudo anymore :/
[06:53] <chris^^> i'm in chroot with root
[06:53] <aet> ic56: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GNGTL429.html (fdisk)
[06:53] <spua7> anyone know of a PCI IDE controller card that works well
[06:53] <Ribs> andrea_b: https://launchpad.net/malone
[06:53] <Ribs> work through that
[06:53] <BioVorE> chris^^: thats because you ran chroot.. you are now in a differnet operating enviroment..
[06:53] <chris^^> BioVorE, well, but i can't use it in my install
[06:53] <grogoreo> I'm trying to download files, using wget and ftp, form my ftp but it just downloads a html file with the directory structure, but I want everything under the folder: files and directories
[06:54] <nicholaspaul> dooglus: I dont have a Rescue mode, only two safe modes, one for terminal and one for Gnome. But neither let me 'sudo'.
[06:54] <chris^^> BioVorE, which group i must set my user "chris", that it work again?
[06:54] <BioVorE> chris^^: you need to setup sudo in your change root
[06:54] <chris^^> ?
[06:54] <chris^^> i'm root in my chroot
[06:54] <chris^^> thats not the problem
[06:55] <ic56> aet: I notice that /dev/hdc1 is an NTFS partition but you are using mount -t vfat.  Why?
[06:55] <BioVorE> chris^^: dose your chroot have sudo on it..  in /etc/ you see a file called visudo and dose sudo command exisit?
[06:55] <BioVorE> (/etc/sudoers)
[06:55] <chris^^> BioVorE, yes
[06:55] <andrea_b> Ribs: I found that: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[06:55] <BioVorE> chris^^: is your usename in /etc/sudoers
[06:55] <Bassetts> is there a program that rips music cds and uses anything like cddb?
[06:55] <profoXP> are there any alternative binary linux kernels for ubuntu ? tweaked or patched for certain stuff ? I know there is a server and normal (desktop) kernel in the default repos.. Anyone know other ?
[06:56] <fearme> does anyone know what movie program will run a .avi file?
[06:56] <chris^^> BioVorE, no - there is only an entry with "admin" and "root" .. hmm
[06:56] <BioVorE> chris^^: This is with in your chroot enviroment
[06:56] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: sound-juicer ?
[06:56] <profoXP> fearme, almost all programs, if you have the right codecs (mplayer, xine, vlc...)
[06:56] <Ron_o> kaffeine will.
[06:56] <profoXP> fearme, be sure to download the right codecs first
[06:56] <BioVorE> chris^^:  add a line that says "username ALL = ALL (ALL)
[06:56] <BioVorE> "
[06:56] <nicholaspaul> Anyone know the command line for the Users GUI ?
[06:56] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: it's installed by default
[06:56] <fearme> ProfoXP, i cant get xine to work for anything
[06:56] <Ribs> andrea_b: no, use my url... the bugzilla system is no longer used.
[06:56] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: it doesnt use cddb
[06:57] <eyequeue> nicholaspaul, what is this "Users GUI"?
[06:57] <chris^^> BioVorE, username ALL = ALL (ALL) or "username" ALL = ALL (ALL)
[06:57] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: it looks up CD info here automatically - not sure what it uses
[06:57] <profoXP> fearme, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[06:57] <chris^^> i must set username to my account in this install, right?
[06:57] <nicholaspaul> eyequeue:  the GUI that is under 'System/Admin' for adding/changing users.
[06:57] <fearme> profoXP, thanks
[06:57] <ericz> nicholaspaul: sudo users-admin ?
[06:57] <aet> ic56: its vfat, /dev/hdc3 is ntfs
[06:58] <nicholaspaul> ericz: sounds like it, thanks!
[06:58] <ic56> aet: vfat is not the same as ntfs.  They are completely different.
[06:58] <BioVorE> chris^^: just like the root line.. execept replace root with your username
[06:58] <profoXP> fearme, follow the guide, so follow the link "general notes" (can be skipped) then click back, then the link "How to add extra repositories", follow the guide, then click back, and read on. should work in most cases
[06:58] <chris^^> BioVorE, works, thanks
[06:58] <ic56> aet: oh.  oops my mistake
[06:58] <winston> gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15553
[06:59] <chris^^> BioVorE, isn't it a security hole?
[06:59] <chris^^> well, be right back i nmy install.. damn live-cd, brb
[06:59] <Scorpmoon> does it improve performance to put / and swap partitions on seperate physical harddisks?
[06:59] <ic56> aet: pastebin the output from ls -l /media and ls -l /media/hdc1 please
[06:59] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: I don't just mean to log out, but to reboot completely, and look at the very first menu - the one that comes up about a second after turning the PC on
[07:00] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, i would say so
[07:00] <rigonatti> can someone help me with a dual boot  ?
[07:00] <BioVorE> chris^^: maybe.. dpends on how you look at it..  sudo should ask for a password before giving you root access.. but its the same password your user uses..  I don't use it on servers.
[07:00] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: having the pathname for the user gui won't help - you'll still need to sudo to use it
[07:00] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, presuming one isn't archaic
[07:00] <Scorpmoon> is it easy to change the swap partition after installation
[07:00] <Bassetts> there is something up with my cdrom in ubuntu
[07:00] <masinger53> Hello, all - fresh install of Dapper (amd64), need vpn assistance.  If I can get vpn to remote to my WinXP box at work, I can kiss my Windoze partition goodbye
[07:00] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, edit /etc/fstab, i believe
[07:00] <dooglus> nicholaspaul: is 'users-admin' what you're thinking of?
[07:01] <aet> ic56: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2kLQ4i88.html
[07:01] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, you'll want to do a mkswap first of ciurse
[07:01] <Bassetts> ubuntu does not recognise i have put a cd in, sometimes it does with a cd-r, but after 3 seconds it unmounts it
[07:01] <nomin> I'm having trouble getting lilo to boot ubuntu.  I'm using lilo through mandriva.  The ubuntu logo shows up but then disappears only to show text.  some of the text says "no volume groups found".  It can't see any of the files on ubuntu.  Can someone tell me what I'm missing from this entry in lilo.conf:  http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=7000
[07:01] <Scorpmoon> what is the recommended partition size for an ubuntu installation?
[07:01] <chris_> re
[07:01] <Scorpmoon> what do you use
[07:02] <Bassetts> when i try and mount my cdrom i get this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/CIBCsl14.html
[07:02] <steveire> I've just done a ubuntu server install, followed by aptitude install x-system-core icewm. I can't start any applications in icewm though. Any ideas how to fix that?
[07:02] <chris_> hmmm my soundcard is no longer working
[07:02] <ic56> aet: correction: ls -la /media/hdc1
[07:02] <winston> gnomefreak I have gutenprint and gimp-print listed as installed in my synaptic
[07:02] <Scorpmoon> maybe it's best to make a small partition, so you can back it up in case of breakdown
[07:02] <Scorpmoon> but then again, i dont wanna hit the roof, coz I got enough space
[07:03] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: looks lke it use musc brainz
[07:03] <Bazzi> Scorpmoon: seperate /home from / then :)
[07:03] <aet> ic56: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/xgKlhn99.html
 yeh
[07:03] <Scorpmoon> Bazzi, I am going to.. but what size do you recommend for / ?
[07:03] <MatthiasM> how can I use mesa for openGL rendering (dri is not working inside VMware) - If I try to install libgl1-mesa-swrast then it tells me it must uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[07:03] <steveire> any ideas?
[07:03] <Scorpmoon> i was about to put 70GB just for /
[07:03] <Bazzi> Scorpmoon: I've got like 10GB
[07:03] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: any idea why ubuntu unmounts my cdrom after mounting it for about 3 seconds?
[07:04] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, /dev/hda6              4807056   1002224   3560648  22% /
[07:04] <Scorpmoon> but all your programs (games especially) takes up tons of GB
[07:04] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: 'tis a mytery wrapped in an enigma
[07:04] <thoreauputic> ;)
[07:04] <Bassetts> its really annoying
[07:04] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, that's one of seven partitions here
[07:04] <dooglus> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[07:04] <dooglus> /dev/hda6              13G   11G  1.7G  87% /mnt/dapper
[07:04] <Bassetts> pretty much renders my pc useless
[07:04] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: you aren't trying to mount a music CD, are you ?
[07:04] <Scorpmoon> eyequeue, on one harddisk?
[07:04] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, right
[07:05] <Scorpmoon> eyequeue, but what do you do when those 10gb are used up? can you install bin files to other partitions then?
[07:05] <tomukas> i have a usbdisk which is not writable.. what could be my mistake?
[07:05] <babo> does anyone know how to burn a .avi file with gnomebaker ?
[07:05] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, don't make / too lean unless you have a /usr /var /home and such
[07:05] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: it happens with cd-rs
[07:05] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: have you tried mounting from cli and seeing what it says ?
[07:05] <winston> gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15553
[07:05] <Scorpmoon> eyequeue, not understood.. too lean?
[07:05] <Bassetts> cli
[07:05] <Bassetts> ?
[07:06] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, too skimpy
[07:06] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: or checking dmesg| tail or syslog ?
[07:06] <Scorpmoon> you got seperate partitions for /usr and /var also?
[07:06] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: command line
[07:06] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, and others, yes
[07:06] <Scorpmoon> say I use a really big partition for ubuntu.. if I want to take a backup of the system, does that backup require the whole space, or just the size taken by programs/system files?
[07:07] <kadambi> Rhytmbox is failing to play mp3, what is the plugin I need to install on 6.06 ?
[07:07] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7v4Iiq12.html
[07:07] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[07:07] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:07] <Scorpmoon> eyequeue, what is the advantage of you using seperate partitions for /usr and /var, if they still are on the same harddisk, and a crash doesn't help much
[07:07] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, if you tell tar to back up a certain dir ("/") it depnds on what is under that
[07:07] <tomukas> !usbdisk
[07:07] <ubotu> tomukas: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:08] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: IO errors suggest a hardware problem..
[07:08] <ic56> aet: something's really fishy with your /media/hdc1 directory.  The `.' link inside it isn't a link to the directory but to something else.  Try sudo rmdir /media/hdc1 ; sudo mkdir /media/hdc1  and try mounting again.  If mounting fails, pastebin its output as well as the output from a new: ls -la /media /media/hdc1
[07:08] <Scorpmoon> eyequeue, may I msg you
[07:08] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, traditionally on unix systems, /usr and /var can be mounted with different permissions, etc
[07:08] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: works fine in kubuntu
[07:08] <eyequeue> Scorpmoon, okay
[07:08] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: and windows
[07:08] <fires> is it possible to change the bg/fg colours of a currently-running xterm?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: hmm - don't know then, sorry
[07:08] <fires> or only on launch
[07:09] <eyequeue> fires, yes
[07:09] <Bassetts> ok =(
[07:09] <fires> eyequeue, cool! how?
[07:09] <SurfnKid> Can someone tell me What else to try to get the 'apt-get update'  failed attempt to resolve fixed
[07:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> do i have to disable my wired ethernet in order to use my wireless?
[07:10] <aet> ic56: got it mounted with "mount -o loop /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc1"
[07:10] <eyequeue> fires, edit > current profile
[07:10] <ic56> aet: after recreating that directory?
[07:10] <masinger53> fires:  Edit > Profiles > Colors tab
[07:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> or is there a command that i can use to force my wifi to remain connected to a network who's signal is low?
[07:10] <fires> where's this "edit" menu?
[07:10] <aet> ic56: before
[07:11] <chris_> BioVorE: well, i fixed my system - now i'm playing in my backup from yesterday from /etc/group and /etc/sudoers.. big thanks to you, nice work here!! :))
[07:11] <masinger53> fires:  should be right under the title bar on the term window
[07:11] <eyequeue> fires, between file and view
[07:11] <BioVorE> chris_: np.. when i doublt google it and read some manuals
[07:11] <fires> masinger53, nope. there aren't any menus
[07:11] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: its just dodgy on whether it mounts it or not =(
[07:11] <tomukas> my usbdisk-device is not writable... even after i formatted it... any ideas?
[07:11] <Fullmoon_mobile> Does the 700MB download includes development tools?
[07:11] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: its workd in breezy also
[07:11] <SurfnKid> Does anyone have a tip or advice to get apt-get to update?
[07:12] <masinger53> fires: do you not see anything listed under the title bar?
[07:12] <chris_> BioVorE: hehe, but it's not so easy if you think "woooohoooooooo i fucked up my system" ;)
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: looked in the Removable media thingy under prefs at all ?
[07:12] <fires> masinger53, nope
[07:12] <winston> Can anyone help with printer driver problem?
[07:12] <aet> ic56: i wonder if this is a linux-2.6.16.20 bug or something
[07:12] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: wheres that?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: sudo apt-get update ?
[07:12] <Unimatrix9> any on here using an webcam that works out of the box with ubuntu?
[07:13] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: in gnome, under System - Prefs I think - I'm in fluxbox atm
[07:13] <ic56> aet: I'm reading the loop device section in mount(8) to see why this might have worked.
[07:13] <eyequeue> fires, right click on your terminal, then select show menubar
[07:13] <aet> ic56: i used to have lvm on hdc but i dont think that should make a difference
[07:13] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: found it =) all looks good
[07:13] <saruki> hi
[07:13] <fires> eyequeue, right-click just highlights text :-/
[07:13] <Unimatrix9> usb webcam that is plug and play with ubuntu? who has got one working?
[07:13] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic,  yep i can get online on the computer but i just cant get it to update
[07:13] <aet> ic56: i think its purely because it doesnt check if file is open already
[07:13] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: is your /etc/apt/sources.list OK ?
[07:13] <saruki> hello?
[07:14] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic,  yep looked there, they all fail
[07:14] <klm-> hey people, is there a qbasic interpreter for ubuntu=?
[07:14] <Unimatrix9> yes hello saruki
[07:14] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: what mirror?
[07:14] <Bassetts> thoreauputic:  sound juicer just crashes when i tell it to extract, the window goes blank and does nothing, then i get an error
[07:14] <Unimatrix9> usb webcam that is plug and play with ubuntu? who has got one working?
[07:14] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: hmm - not good - can't help off the top of my head
[07:15] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: what errors?
[07:15] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, i can ping all the sources actually, all respond, but apt get just fails, i can chat, browse, do just about anything, apparently its a common error but i got it working on one laptop now i dont know what else to try to get it goinigg on this otherr one
[07:15] <ic56> aet: the business with that directory being screwy needs to be addressed.  BTW, I assume ls isn't an alias or script or something right?  "type ls" returns /bin/ls ?
[07:15] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, connection failed
[07:15] <eyequeue> fires, right click in the middle of the terminal, don't you get a content menu?
[07:15] <fires> eyequeue, nope
[07:15] <ic56> aet: if the problem turned out to not be the directory, my next guess would have been that the kernel datastructures have become corrupt somehow (bad RAM?) and you need to reboot.
[07:16] <winston> gnomefreak are you there? I have the source posted
[07:16] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: where is the list pointing? Are you using default mirror settings in apt?
[07:16] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: ok, it says it could nope open the cd for reading
[07:16] <saruki> do any of you know how to mod pics on GIMP image editor?
[07:16] <eyequeue> fires, ubuntu?
[07:16] <odinriko> Where can I find a doc on making usb drives writeable by all users
[07:16] <fires> eyequeue, yeah, dapper
[07:16] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, where do i check that?
[07:17] <fires> eyequeue, it's an xterm
[07:17] <odinriko> I googled it and I guess I'm not using the right terminology.
[07:17] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, synaptic
[07:17] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: open /etc/apt/sources.list and see what URLs it has
[07:17] <eyequeue> fires, gnome-terminal 2.14.1?
[07:17] <fires> eyequeue, no. xterm.
[07:17] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, tell me this, how do i check what apt-get does? as far as what command it uses and what headers it uses to check DNS problems.
[07:17] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: sometimes a mirror has problems ( us. archive.ubuntu.com often does)
[07:18] <winston> I updgraded to DAPPER and would like to print, cant get printer driver located, can anyone help out with this??
[07:18] <eyequeue> fires, okay sorry
[07:18] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic,  well apparently they all fail, its not just that one, hang on a sec
[07:18] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: its ripping a different cd now, maybe it doesnt like my taste in music =P
[07:18] <eyequeue> fires, xterm is sometimes used in the generic sense
[07:18] <firefly> xchat crashed
[07:18] <masinger53> Anyone got suggestions for "vpn in ubuntu for dummies"?
[07:18] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: yeah, it's programmed to reject country & western ;-P
[07:18] <firefly> eyequeue, right, well....i'm using the real xterm
[07:19] <Bassetts> thoreauputic:  thats me buggered then =( =P
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: :D
[07:19] <eyequeue> fires, okay sorry
[07:19] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass thoreauputic   SUUUUUUUUUUUCEEEEEEEEEESSSSS  :)) I DIIIIIDD IIIIIIIIT !!!!!
[07:19] <aet> ic56: i rebooted once already and it didnt help
[07:19] <aet> ic56: ls is aliased to `ls --color=auto'
[07:19] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: *cough* calm down mate ;)
[07:19] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto?highlight=%28synaptic%29
[07:20] <aet> ic56: ill try with ubuntu kernel when i have to reboot
[07:20] <thoreauputic> _Mr_Denix_: congrats :)
[07:20] <ic56> aet: do you want to fix the directory or do you not care to try the obvious solution?
[07:20] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, go down where it says how to keep your system up to date, thats where the error is common
[07:20] <deflux-> Sup
[07:20] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: hey
[07:21] <psychiccyberfrea> hey can anyone help me with a wireless problem
[07:21] <SurfnKid> psychiccyberfrea, welcome to the club what up
[07:21] <ic56> !justask
[07:21] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[07:21] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: it appears to suggest setting your ISPs DNS IP s
[07:21] <aet> ic56: rebooting didnt help for the initial problem
[07:21] <winston> NEED help getting a printer to work
[07:21] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: which I do routinely anyway, in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:21] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, and that doesnt work too :(
[07:21] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: look... this xorg work but without using ATI driver http://no-paste.it/?73
[07:21] <Bassetts> YAY i can listen to avenged sevenfold now =)
[07:21] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah I upgraded to dapper and now ndiswrapper stopped working
[07:22] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, whats /etc/resolv for?
[07:22] <keck0f> hi all.
[07:22] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: well, I don't know what the problem is, sorry
[07:22] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: this is after type aticonfig --initial and after reboot http://no-paste.it/?74
[07:22] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: /etc/resolv.conf  <-- where the DNS server IP s are set
[07:22] <Unimatrix9> usb webcam that is plug and play with ubuntu? who has got one working?
[07:22] <SurfnKid> ah ok i just saw
[07:22] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: there should be two at least, no more than 3
[07:23] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah but you need a program to actually do something with a webcam
[07:23] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> apokryphos: error display not found
[07:23] <Tylerofl> can someone please tell me how to restore the backup copy of Xorg.conf?
[07:23] <ic56> aet: I told you how to fix the problem.  If don't want to, then don't.  It's your system.  ttyl
[07:23] <eyequeue> Tylerofl, cp it over the current and restart x
[07:23] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, yes, and its the manual DNS i entered, let me check on the other laptop, thanks for that resolv.conf. now I can look at that in the future. Do all apps look at that file to resolve?
[07:24] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: as far as I know
[07:24] <Bassetts> where do i change what a filetype opens with?
[07:24] <Tylerofl> eyequeue: i don't know how to do that. i'm a half a terminal virgin
[07:24] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: that's the system-wide setting
[07:24] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic,  ok ill play with that a bit thx
[07:24] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> Ati problem
[07:24] <Unimatrix9> wich web cam works perfect with linux?
[07:24] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> does anybody can help me?
[07:24] <eyequeue> Tylerofl, cp oldfilename newfilename
[07:24] <aet> ic56: well im confident enough that it will not fix the problem
[07:24] <Tylerofl> i have only done very simple commands, none of which involved file maninpulation
[07:24] <eyequeue> Tylerofl, cp xorg.conf.bak xorg.conf
[07:25] <eyequeue> Tylerofl, using whatever filenames you have there
[07:25] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, yeah its a common problem i guess, but im sure i'll get it just takes some tweakingg
[07:25] <winston> Need help getting printer to work on dapper plz
[07:25] <psychiccyberfrea> do you have cups?
[07:25] <roler> sudo runs programs from a user account as root, but is there a way to run a program from root, as a user?
[07:26] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> I need help with ATI driver
[07:26] <penguin42> roler: You should be able to use su
[07:26] <_Mr_Denix_> I am a genious
[07:26] <eyequeue> roler, # su - roler
[07:26] <Tylerofl> eyequeue: i understand that much, i am familiar with DOS command prompt, and some things seem to be universal. i just need the default xorg.conf path and the path for the backup
[07:26] <winston> psychiccyberfrea isnt that in by default?
[07:26] <_Mr_Denix_> thoreauputic / neutrinomass:  srry guyz my net connection was down
[07:26] <penguin42> roler: e.g. su roler -c "command parameter"
[07:26] <roler> eyequeue, well I don't want to switch to that user... just once to run the command? So would it be su roler command?
[07:26] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah I guess winston
[07:26] <roler> ahh!!!
[07:26] <Unimatrix9> is it not /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:26] <gnomefreak> Unimatrix9: it is
[07:27] <keck0f> where can i find the root-partition on a 6.06-CD? (isn't it a squashfs-compresed file? .... but what is it's name?)
[07:27] <winston> psychiccyberfrea printer setup is asking for driver in pdd format
[07:27] <psychiccyberfrea> you should have a frontend for cups somewhere in the admin panel IDK cuz I use KDE sorry
[07:27] <nathanael> What is the BASH command to display battery usage info?
[07:27] <roler> sweet thanks!
[07:27] <penguin42> winston: ppd ?
[07:27] <penguin42> winston: Those are quite common
[07:27] <psychiccyberfrea> well, does it have the make and model on the list?
[07:27] <eyequeue> roler, # su roler -c whoami   :)
[07:28] <winston> penbguin42 yeah ppd, but where do you find them??
[07:28] <penguin42> winston: For what printer?
[07:28] <nathanael> What is the BASH command to display battery usage info?
[07:28] <ic56> !patience
[07:28] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[07:28] <thoreauputic> nathanael: don't repeat please
[07:28] <psychiccyberfrea> The best thing to do is to pick the one closest to the printer
[07:28] <winston> penguin 42 http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_1280
[07:28] <Unimatrix9> battery stat, something like : cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
[07:28] <nathanael> sorry
[07:28] <thoreauputic> nathanael: if someone knows they will tell you
[07:28] <Unimatrix9> but not sure
[07:28] <eyequeue> the bash shell doesn't handle battery info
[07:29] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah I have a stylus photo R350 but I picked the R300 driver and it works fine
[07:29] <Unimatrix9> cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
[07:29] <timmyp3> anyone here able to help with firestarter?
[07:29] <psychiccyberfrea> timmyp3: what's firestarter?
[07:29] <thoreauputic> timmyp3: tell us the problem
[07:29] <penguin42> winston: I'm not sure I'd expect to find a ppd for that - what are you using to set up the driver?
[07:29] <Gistybit> Since i have an ext2 formatted partition i wish to share between linux and windows, how do i set ubuntu to use latin-1 as the charset for this partition only, since the windows driver doesn't support utf-8 ?
[07:29] <psychiccyberfrea> it could be on that startup disk winston
[07:29] <eyequeue> firestarter (8)      - program to manage and observe firewalls
[07:30] <psychiccyberfrea> oh
[07:30] <gnomefreak> penguin42: winston the ppd for your epson printer is in the drivers! you need to enable your repos winston
[07:30] <psychiccyberfrea> I can't help you with that
[07:30] <SurfnKid> thoreauputic, question, once i make a change on resolv.conf or interfaces   is there a need to reload the system or not
[07:30] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[07:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[07:30] <winston> gnomefreak all are enabled arent they?
[07:31] <ic56> Gistybit: add to the mount options:  iocharset=<charset>
[07:31] <gnomefreak> winston: i dont know you never showed me the file
[07:31] <eyequeue> SurfnKid, those two files are sourced upon need, so no
[07:31] <SurfnKid> ok
[07:31] <winston> gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15553
[07:31] <gnomefreak> hold on
[07:31] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: not as far as I know - you can do ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 for example, but I think the system looks htere anyway
[07:31] <SurfnKid> ok
[07:31] <Tylerofl> does anyone know the default location for xorg.conf backups?
[07:31] <winston> penguin42 im using the printer setpup in system admin printes
[07:31] <Gistybit> ic56: thank you!
[07:32] <thoreauputic> Tylerofl: normally in /etc/X11
[07:32] <thoreauputic> Tylerofl: assuming they are system generated
[07:32] <timmyp3> I have Ubuntu 6.06 running with Firestarter (Firewall GUI) and I have 3 NICs installed.  I want to have two be publicly accessible (internet).  The other one will be the gateway for my LAN.  I want different rules for each external interface.  My goal is to have one (external) interface be just for my SMTP server/traffic.  The other (external) interface would be just for my LAN traffic (web browsing, etc.).  I can't figure out how to 
[07:32] <_binks_> penguin i just dropped in what epson u havin probs with
[07:32] <Unimatrix9> , xorg.conf~old
[07:32] <Unimatrix9> thats in /etc/X11/
[07:32] <penguin42> winston: I'll admit to some confusion, that site says to use the PPDs that come with the version of gimp-print that you have - however I can't see any in it
[07:32] <Tylerofl> thoreauputic: (nice name btw) they were generated when i enabled the nvidia driver
[07:32] <KaM> I need help with ATI driver
[07:32] <gnomefreak> winston: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gimp-print gutenprint
[07:33] <gnomefreak> brb phone
[07:33] <penguin42> _binks_: Its Winston trying to get a stylus photo 1280 going
[07:33] <winston> gnomefreak I checked out the adavanced options in synaptic and all are activated and gutenprint and gimp-print appear installed while they are not detected when using apt-get
[07:33] <thoreauputic> timmyp3: might be a bit complex for firestarter - it's a fairly basic frontend
[07:33] <nathanael> Ah! Figured it out: It's "acpi", once you have installed the acpi package for laptops
[07:33] <_binks_> arr ok
[07:33] <psychiccyberfrea> hey ndiswrapper stopped working for me after I upgraded to dapper what should I do?
[07:33] <_binks_> do the guten print drivers not see it
[07:33] <Gistybit> ic56: This inevitably leads to the question.. how do i convert the current filenames from utf-8 to latin-1 ? (if this is at all advisable)
[07:33] <scud> how do I get the cube desktop enable, i have an nvidia card
[07:33] <timmyp3> thoreauputic: any ideas on something that will handle something that complex?
[07:33] <_binks_> winston do you have gutenprint
[07:34] <SurfnKid> whoaaa
[07:34] <thoreauputic> Tylerofl: sudo updatedb && locate xorg.conf*
[07:34] <msid> can anybody tell me where the sound configuration is written on the hard drive ? like default sound card etc..
[07:34] <Unimatrix9> ah, yes is see it too, its acpi -b
[07:34] <SurfnKid> goal goal goal sorry but goal
[07:34] <aet> scud: check ml
[07:34] <thoreauputic> timmyp3: iptables - but that's a whole field in itself
[07:34] <thoreauputic> timmyp3: I'm not expert :)
[07:34] <ic56> Gistybit: surely the filenames are all in plain ASCII ?
[07:34] <steveire> can anyone recommend a small, non text based web browser please?
[07:34] <timmyp3> thoreauputic: yeah, one I can't seem to master.  Thats why I was hoping to use Firestarter
[07:34] <scud> aet: is that a package?
[07:34] <KaM> help me please
[07:34] <Dr_Geek> SurfKid who got the goal?
[07:34] <winston> _binks_ i see it installed when looking at synaptic in advanced, but using apt-get it says the package cant be found
[07:35] <wweasel> Hey guys. I just installed ubuntu and set it up to mount my ntfs partition. But I don't like seeing it on my desktop, i am perfectly happy with it just being in Places. How do I get it off my desktop?
[07:35] <Gistybit> ic56: well .. no .. some of the filenames contain   and 
[07:35] <thoreauputic> steveire: dillo or links2 -g
[07:35] <aet> scud: its not that simple, check ml
[07:35] <thoreauputic> steveire: pretty limited though
[07:35] <Unimatrix9> Kam ask the question
[07:35] <ic56> wweasel:  how did your ntfs partitions get to your desktop?
[07:35] <SurfnKid> Dr_Geek, Mexico
[07:35] <Dr_Geek> cool
[07:35] <scud> aet: im not understanding what you mean by 'check ml', sorry :(
[07:35] <KaM> Unimatrix9: I've a problem with ati driver
[07:35] <wweasel> ic56: ubuntu automatically puts a link on the desktop
[07:35] <winston> gnomefreak cant find package for gutenprint
[07:36] <_binks_> winston what version ubuntu ou on
[07:36] <palomer> hello
[07:36] <palomer> what bittorrent client do you guys recommend?
[07:36] <ceu> I have /dev/usblp0 device (it should be /dev/usb/lp0). It seems a bug in /etc/udev/rules.d/20-names.rules
[07:36] <eyequeue> please no sports in #ubuntu
[07:36] <aet> scud: ml for mailing list
[07:36] <ceu> can somebody confirm that?
[07:36] <winston> _binks_ I just upgraded to dapper
[07:36] <KaM> Unimatrix9: I've try to install but after reboot I recieve the follow error: Screen not found
[07:36] <_binks_> bittorent [07:36] <scud> doh
[07:36] <scud> ok
[07:36] <scud> thanks
[07:36] <_binks_> did the printer work in breezy
[07:36] <chapium> palomer: i prefer the btdownload thing included with ubuntu
[07:36] <chapium> palomer: some like btdownloadcurses
[07:37] <KaM> Unimatrix9: This is my xorg before install: http://no-paste.it/?73
[07:37] <winston> _binks_ I did not install it until now
[07:37] <Gistybit> ic56: no sorry you're right.. they're plain ascii.. :) thx again for your help..
[07:37] <ic56> Gistybit: (apologies for my ethnocentrism -- it occured to me after I spoke that many people here aren't operating with english fielnames).  Perhaps there's a tool to do what you want but my guess is you'll need to rename every file.
[07:37] <penguin42> _binks_: Dapper still seems to have a gimp-print package and then libgutenprint* packages
[07:37] <KaM> Unimatrix9: This is my xorg after install: http://no-paste.it/?74
[07:37] <SurfnKid> Dr_Geek, dude whoaa another one. omg
[07:37] <thoreauputic> !info cupsys-driver-gutenprint
[07:37] <Unimatrix9> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[07:37] <ubotu> cupsys-driver-gutenprint: (printer drivers for CUPS), section graphics, is optional. Version: 5.0.0~rc2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), Packaged size: 965 kB, Installed size: 1272 kB
[07:37] <roler> where is the ubuntu dapper bootup screen/shutdown screen config?
[07:37] <wweasel> Hey guys. How do I remove the link to my mounted ntfs partition that Ubuntu automatically puts on the desktop?
[07:37] <ic56> wweasel: are you on dapper?
[07:37] <Gistybit> ic56: okay.. thx :)
[07:37] <_binks_> ok you will need to install gutenprint from src
[07:37] <wweasel> ic56: yes
[07:37] <Dr_Geek> awesome
[07:37] <KaM> Unimatrix9: how can i do?
[07:37] <_binks_> that will install the ppd
[07:37] <steveire> thoreauputic: limited how? no javascript and that kind of thing?
[07:38] <winston> penguin42 I know, but when i add new priter it detects the one i have (espon stylus photo 1280) but then asks for the driver in PPD file
[07:38] <thoreauputic> steveire: yes - although links -g might have javascript
[07:38] <thoreauputic> steveire: not sure
[07:38] <thoreauputic> umm links2 -g
[07:38] <turlututu> hey
[07:38] <msid> can anybody tell me where the sound configuration is written on the hard drive ? like default sound card etc..
[07:38] <ic56> wweasel: Someone else said his partitions ended up in /tmp.  Can you shed any light on the discrepancy?  Did you do something special?  Did teh installer ask where you wanted them?
[07:38] <timmyp3> Has anyone here ever successfully used Firestarter (or just IPTABLES for that matter) to configure a dual external Interface firewall with only one internal interface?
[07:39] <penguin42> winston: OK, I suggest trying linuxprinting.org-ppds, foomatic-filters-ppds, printfilters-ppd in approximately that order
[07:39] <chapium> is there a way to edit the "places" section of the ubuntu menu?  There's an entry for cd/dvd creator... quite useless if you only have a cd-rom
[07:39] <Dr_Geek> bbl
[07:39] <kamiro87> Hello, I am using ubuntu 5.10 on a PC laptop with no roght or left click buttion. Tap-Clicking works but how do i set up click-drag stuff?
[07:39] <eyequeue> can anyone here successfully start firestarter in dapper at all?
[07:39] <Unimatrix9> Kam, have to go, by the way, the paste bin did not load over here,
[07:39] <_binks_> gutenprint [07:39] <Tonren> calc nopaste
[07:39] <turlututu> someone already tried to change the usplash with ubuntu drapper ?
[07:40] <steveire> thoreauputic: aptitude doesn't seem to know links -g. It knows links and links2 though...
[07:40] <chapium> turlututu: there is a guide in the wiki on it
[07:40] <_binks_> install the package then gimp should find the driver
[07:40] <wweasel> ic56: Installer? I had to set up my fstab to mount it. It's mounted in /media/windows.  Nothing special, but Ubuntu has automatically put a link to the partition on my desktop. I'd just like to hide it or remove it.
[07:40] <ic56> wweasel: might the entries on your desktop be symlinks or are they the actual mountpoints?  If you don't know the difference, I can tell you how to find out.
[07:40] <Unimatrix9> so paste bin it again, and ask, ati driver setup, no screen? what seems to be the problem
[07:40] <Unimatrix9> etc
[07:40] <wweasel> ic56: they are symlinks.
[07:40] <thoreauputic> steveire: links2
[07:40] <steveire> should I get links2 or something?
[07:40] <steveire> ok
[07:40] <Tonren> hey guys, I get this error when trying to install the Java runtime environment: http://rafb.net/paste/results/qloWcn31.html
[07:40] <ic56> wweasel: then just remove teh symlinks.
[07:40] <KaM> Unimatrix9: ok, tnks
[07:40] <thoreauputic> steveire: the -g is a flag touse it graphically
[07:40] <wweasel> ic56: sure, how?
[07:40] <thoreauputic> *to use
[07:40] <Unimatrix9> i have nvidia, so cant be of much help
[07:40] <turlututu> i know, i read the french translation but it doesn't work :(
[07:41] <ic56> wweasel: you prefer GUI or CLI answer?
[07:41] <KaM> Unimatrix9: you are lucky
[07:41] <winston> penguin42 you mean to search for ppds on those webistes? I found my printer on linuxprinting.org but it says it should work fine under gimp-print I dont get it
[07:41] <thoreauputic> steveire: e.g.  links2 -g http://google.com
[07:41] <psychiccyberfrea> hey ndiswrapper stopped working for me after I upgraded to dapper what should I do?
[07:41] <chapium> turlututu: you need it in french?
[07:41] <wweasel> ic56: whichever. CLI might be easier for you to explain
[07:41] <wweasel> ic56: whichever is easier for you.
[07:41] <ic56> rm Desktop/<link name>
[07:41] <kamiro87> because not bieng able to drag icons and windows is whell.... a real drag. :: ducks ::
[07:42] <ic56> wweasel: rm Desktop/<link name>
[07:42] <roler> where is the ubuntu dapper bootup screen/shutdown screen config?
[07:42] <KaM> ATI problem: anybody can help me?
[07:42] <turlututu> i can understand english so it's ok
[07:42] <chapium> turlututu: well, if you can translate it that would be nice :D
[07:42] <thoreauputic> steveire: both dillo and links2 -g are blindingly fast :)
[07:42] <turlututu> 640x400, i thought it was 640/480 ?
[07:42] <chapium> turlututu: its always frustrating using a document which you partially understand
[07:43] <steveire> yes. Very interesting... thanks for that
[07:43] <turlututu> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/usplash
[07:43] <aet> KaM: it might help a bit if you tell us about your problem
[07:43] <penguin42> winston: I'd also expect them to be in the gutenprint package - but I can't see them; so I was suggesting those other *packages* that are in ubuntu hoping they might have an appropriate ppd - but really you should be using the gutenprint one - as _blink_ suggests I'd have expected to get it from the gutenprint packages
[07:43] <winston> penguin42  doesnt appear to have a PPD on linuxprinting.org
[07:43] <turlututu> it's already translated
[07:43] <turlututu> :)
[07:43] <wweasel> ic56: Can't remove, no file or directory. I also tried to do ls, nothing on desktop. When I right click and go to properties of this thing it says it's owner is root. Sudo ls does nothing for me.
[07:44] <penguin42> winston: There is a package called linuxprinting.org-ppds
[07:44] <jbirdAngel> is there a way to see a list of all running processes and such?
[07:44] <jbirdAngel> and hello
[07:44] <thoreauputic> winston: have you installed cupsys-driver-gutenprint  ?
[07:44] <penguin42> jbirdAngel: ps -eaf
[07:44] <KaM> aet: I've tried to install driver ati with Installer but when reboot X dosn't start because "screen not found"
[07:44] <eyequeue> jbirdAngel, ps auxw
[07:44] <earthen> one the setup screen for the server ed it ask fro formatt norallt or LVM what is LVM
[07:44] <aet> KaM: just a moment
[07:44] <jbirdAngel> penguin42, eyequeue, okay thank you
[07:44] <KaM> aet: ok
[07:45] <eyequeue> !lvm
[07:45] <ubotu> from memory, lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[07:45] <penguin42> earthen: LVM is Linux Volume Manager - its quite powerful for managing large discs and reorganising them later; but quite complex at times
[07:45] <ic56> wweasel: er, you're telling me the link is visible in GUI but not in CLI?  Makes no sense.  Are you sure you didn't mistype the directory name or something?
[07:45] <earthen> penguin42,  ok thanks
[07:45] <winston> penguin42 I dont understand what you mean theres a package?? where what? shouldnt i be able to get it to work with gimp-print
[07:45] <penguin42> winston: apt-get install linuxprinting.org-ppds
[07:45] <wweasel> ic56: positive. if i open up a filebrowser, it doesn't appear either. if i try to just hit delete, it tells me it can't and tells me how to unmount it.
[07:45] <thoreauputic> thoreauputic winston: have you installed cupsys-driver-gutenprint
[07:45] <_binks_> winston >>> http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/p_Supported_Printers.php3
[07:46] <chapium> anyone know how to enable chinese keyboard input so it is an input method option in SCIM ?
[07:46] <nexeus> can any 1 tell how to add guest mode in xorg.conf for getting fs in vmware
[07:46] <nexeus> plz
[07:46] <wweasel> ic56: I suspect that Ubuntu automatically shows mounted volumes on the desktop.
[07:46] <ic56> wweasel: maybe it's an artifact in Nautilus's config.  I've never created such things though.  Let me see if I can dig up some info
[07:46] <winston> thoreauputic yes its already installed
[07:46] <_binks_> winston forget gimp-print we need to fix gutenprint
[07:46] <steveire> thoreauputic: I have to install links-ssl if I want to go to https pages?
[07:46] <thoreauputic> winston: OK just checking
[07:46] <winston> _binks_ ok
[07:47] <johnsie> Hi... if I have sudo in a terminal... how do I unsudo?
[07:47] <thoreauputic> steveire: probably - I haven't used it
[07:47] <steveire> alright
[07:47] <_binks_> ok now uninstall gutenprint in synaptic
[07:47] <turf_> hi guys any picture package like for ubuntu that you know?
[07:47] <eyequeue> johnsie, exit
[07:47] <steveire> johnsie: try exit
[07:47] <msid> can anybody tell me where the sound configuration is written on the hard drive ? like default sound card etc..
[07:47] <thoreauputic> steveire: does apt-cache show links2 tell you about ssl compatibility?
[07:47] <winston> _binks_ how do we do that?
[07:47] <nomin> how do I reinstall the grub bootloader?  I just overwrote it with lilo through another distro and now I can't boot into ubuntu.  How can I get ubuntu to start up now?
[07:47] <_binks_> turf gimp = pictures
[07:47] <eyequeue> turf_, what do you want to do with it?
[07:47] <nexeus> can any 1 tell how to add guest mode in xorg.conf for getting fullscreen in vmware plz
[07:47] <schrodinger> hello
[07:48] <_binks_> open synaptic search for gutenprint right click remove
[07:48] <eyequeue> turf_, gthumb or eog to view, gimp to edit
[07:48] <wweasel> ic56: my suspicion was correct. anything mounted in /media/xxxxx will get a desktop icon
[07:48] <winston> _binks_ it says the printer is  Fully Operational on you gutenprint page you linked up there
[07:48] <wweasel> ic56: so i guess my question is how to prevent it from getting a desktop icon
[07:49] <ic56> wweasel: I agree.  I'm reading up on Nautilus
[07:49] <_binks_> yes so there is a prob with your version of guten
[07:49] <turf_> a friend of mya is using this http://www.ppackage.com/e/index.html and im looking for a software that do the same that run on ubuntu
[07:49] <winston> _binks_ so my problem is being able to select the driver when i add a new printer, cnat i just select gutenprint???
[07:49] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah system manager
[07:49] <psychiccyberfrea> its in gnome
[07:49] <thoreauputic> ic56, wweasel probably configurable with gconf-editor
[07:49] <schrodinger> 
[07:49] <ceu> in dapper, the correct device for an usb printer, is /dev/usb/lp0 or /dev/usblp0 ?
[07:50] <_binks_> if gutenprint is installed correctly you should get the option to install your printer from the list
[07:50] <jUggERNAUt1980_> i typed in iwconfig eth1 sens -200 and it returned an error "Error for wireless request "Set Sensitivity" (8B08) :
[07:50] <jUggERNAUt1980_>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not permitted.
[07:50] <jUggERNAUt1980_> "  and when i did it in sudo, it told me operation not supported.
[07:50] <wweasel> thoreauputic: explain please. i am new to this.
[07:50] <Frogzoo> wweasel: you can disable the icons from gnome control
[07:50] <jUggERNAUt1980_> is there any way that i can get around this?
[07:50] <_binks_> you on ubuntu or kubuntu
[07:50] <eyequeue> printers are serial rather than parallel??
[07:50] <KaM> aet: I'm waiting for you when you are ready. Tnks
[07:50] <wweasel> frogzoo: a) how can i get to gnome control and b) can i disable it just for my windows partition, but if i plug in a usb key have it show up?
[07:50] <_binks_> eyequeue or usb
[07:50] <thoreauputic> wweasel: gconf-editor allows you to change various setting for gnome - just try typing it in  a terminal to see
[07:50] <aet> KaM: no-paste.it doesnt open for me
[07:50] <thoreauputic> wweasel: it's a GUI app
[07:51] <KaM> aet: why not?
[07:51] <eyequeue> _binks_, yeah, usb being serial is what threw me, i thought they were parallel
[07:51] <winston> _binks_  Do i already have the PPD on my filesystem? Im confused I dont know how this all works
[07:51] <neoXite> hi, is there a trick to getting a microphone to work in dapper?
[07:51] <aet> KaM: after installation xorg.conf should be fine if you can paste it elsewhere
[07:51] <neoXite> i am an alsa noob by i checked and nothing seems muted
[07:51] <Frogzoo> wweasel: apps -> system -> config editor          then apps -> nautilus -> desktop -> volumes visible - disable
[07:51] <_binks_> yes you should have if gutenprint is install without errors
[07:51] <aet> KaM: no idea
[07:51] <psychiccyberfrea> I'm having a problem with ndiswrapper after I upgraded to dapper what should I do?
[07:51] <eyequeue> neoXite, right click on the speaker in the top right
[07:52] <KaM> aet: ok tnks
[07:52] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: gconf-editor is hidden by default in dapper :(
[07:52] <eyequeue> neoXite, from there, turn on and up your mic
[07:52] <neoXite> i did that already
[07:52] <aet> KaM: what card do you have btw?
[07:52] <winston> gnomefreak any ideas?
[07:52] <eyequeue> neoXite, that's all i needed here
[07:52] <neoXite> ok
[07:52] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: it can be added back in the menu editor though
[07:52] <KaM> aet: ATI mobility radeon 9000
[07:53] <KaM> aet: I've no problem with live cd kororaa
[07:53] <aet> KaM: open source drivers exist for that card
[07:53] <wweasel> Frogzoo: Can I disable it only for my windows volume, but still ahve removeable media like dvds and usb keys show up?
[07:53] <Dreamglider> anyone, how can i see if my wireless usb adapter is working ?
[07:53] <ic56> wweasel: yes, you can. I found the config.
[07:53] <KaM> aet: I think is monitor the problem
[07:54] <winston> Cant anybody in here help get  my printer working??? It should work fine with gutenprint!!! The printing ui asks me for a PPD where do I find that on my system??? help plz
[07:54] <thoreauputic> wweasel: why don't you play with gconf-editor and see what it cn do for you ?
[07:54] <aet> KaM: id suggest you use them since fglrx is pretty much broken with <= r9200 cards
[07:54] <Dr_Geek> Frogzoo.........thanks for your help earlier today............got the flash player working now
[07:54] <steveire> thoreauputic: It doesn't, but I'll stick with dillo for the moment
[07:54] <KaM> aet: how can I use it?
[07:54] <Frogzoo> wweasel: doesn't look like it - to enable config editor, system -> add/remove -> ssystem tools -> config editor - enable  (whew)
[07:54] <thoreauputic> steveire: dillo is pretty good particularly for simple sites and docs etc
[07:55] <KaM> aet: what you suggest?
[07:55] <saik0> If I modprobe a NIC driver should it create an ethN device automagically?
[07:55] <aet> KaM: it was probably enabled before you installed atis drivers
[07:55] <winston> _binks_ ?
[07:55] <KaM> aet: this is my original xorg: http://no-paste.it/?73
[07:55] <penguin42> saik0: Yes
[07:55] <kici> xixixi
[07:55] <ic56> wweasel: there are relevant settings under both Nautilus and System.
[07:55] <wweasel> frogzoo: thanks, i am already in confg editor. it is already installed, and i just needed to add it to the menu using alacarte editor, i could run it in a terminal.
[07:55] <Frogzoo> Dr_Geek: cool, enjoy
[07:55] <KaM> aet: this is xorg after install driver ati: http://no-paste.it/?74
[07:55] <Dr_Geek> ty
[07:56] <wweasel> ic56: alright. if you found this in a wiki or a forum page, you could link me.
[07:56] <ic56> wweasel: no, I poked around in gconf-editor's menus
[07:56] <winston> So no-one here can help get a printer to work?
[07:56] <wweasel> ic56: alright. what shall i do?
[07:56] <_binks_> winston giz 5 mins need to get kids to bed
[07:56] <winston> _binks_  ok thanks
[07:57] <Jinkguns> What webcam will work with Ubuntu 6.06?
[07:57] <saik0> penguin42, thanks
[07:57] <aet> KaM: can you paste that to www.rafb.net/paste
[07:57] <eyequeue> !hardware
[07:57] <ubotu> methinks hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:57] <ic56> I don't have the hardware to test the behaviour so you'll have to try.  I see relevant entries in: apps> Nautilus and in system> storage
[07:57] <steveire> thoreauputic: Yeah, but I think I might have to install something better actually. Sites aren't really rendering properly at all. Possibly because dillo uses http1.1 or something
[07:57] <KaM> aet: ok wait just a moment
[07:58] <wweasel> ic56: i don't have System > Storage
[07:58] <thoreauputic> steveire: the guy who wrote dillo is a pedant for correct html :)
[07:58] <penguin42> out of curiosity, anyone tried iSCSI with Dapper?
[07:58] <spikeb> steveire: you're looking for something lighter than firefox?
[07:58] <Bassetts> thoreauputic: cds seem to be working ok now, its just cd-rs
[07:58] <ic56> wweasel: I'm on breezy. sorry.
[07:58] <KaM> aet: original: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/uGIqFl17.html
[07:58] <thoreauputic> steveire: as I said, it has limitations - have you tried epiphany or kazehakase ?
[07:58] <wweasel> ic56: alright. thanks for the help though, i appreciate it.
[07:59] <ic56> wweasel: you're welcome
[07:59] <KaM> aet: modify by installer: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Qt9bjj98.html
[08:00] <aet> KaM: your original xorg.conf was using open source drivers
[08:00] <KaM> aet: is a question?
[08:00] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, i can't change my screen resolution anymore... it stays in 800x600, but the dialog still says "do you want to keep the new resolution" as if it had changed it... what can i do?
[08:00] <steveire> spikeb: Yeah. I#m looking for the smallest app that will display eg, wikipedia the way I expect it to. I'll have a look at epiphany...
[08:00] <spikeb> steveire: try opera and skipstone
[08:01] <aet> KaM: and your new xorg.conf misses BusID       "PCI:1:5:0" line thats probably needed for fglrx to detect your card
[08:01] <ttuttle> If I build my own kernel, is there an easy way to get an initrd built for it?
[08:01] <logicalmark> Hey guys. Has anyone every used Minicom? Could you give me a push in the right directon. Hyperterminal has always made it pretty easy and minicom is throwing me
[08:02] <penguin42> logicalmark: What problem you having?
[08:02] <santiagokq> since i upgraded to dapper, i can't change my screen resolution anymore... it stays in 800x600, but the dialog still says "do you want to keep the new resolution" as if it had changed it... what can i do ?
[08:02] <KaM> aet: where? in 123 line?
[08:02] <winston> gnomefreak u still there?
[08:02] <catherine> hello.
[08:02] <thoreauputic> !tell santiagokq about fixres
[08:02] <aet> KaM: yes in device section where driver is fglrx
[08:03] <thoreauputic> catherine: up early, or late ? ;)
[08:03] <catherine> late :/
[08:03] <logicalmark> penguin42, first I am not even sure if Ubuntu is recognizing my USB to Serial adapter. Second I don't know how to figure out what "Com Port" to tell minicom to connect with. And thrid I don't know how to tell it to connect! I am trying to console into a switch
[08:03] <thoreauputic> catherine: ditto :)
[08:03] <psychiccyberfrea> I'm having a problem with ndiswrapper after I upgraded to dapper what should I do?
[08:03] <tenco> is it possible to use the dapper desktop cd in textmode?
[08:03] <steveire> epiphany seems to be a game, not a browser. I'll try opera
[08:03] <catherine> i'm trying to install xubuntu on this ancient laptop of mine, but i think it's dead.
[08:03] <aet> KaM: you can also switch drivers by modifying "Device" of section "Screen"
[08:03] <thoreauputic> tenco: try ctrl-alt-F1
[08:04] <tenco> thoreauputic: how do i install in textmode?
[08:04] <h3sp4wn> psychic: Are you using broadcom wireless if so read the page in the wiki any try the native driver if not then reinstall ndiswrapper
[08:04] <penguin42> logicalmark: Ah, USB to Serial adapters are touchy beasties - the device is something like /dev/ttyUSB0 or is it /dev/usb/tty something - have a look with an ls to see if you have something like that
[08:04] <catherine> after installing xubuntu from the text installer, i got the error "isolinux: disk error 01, ax = 0201, drive 80". how would i find out what this means?
[08:04] <thoreauputic> tenco: ah, that I don't know - you need the alternate CD for text mode I think
[08:04] <KaM> aet: can you paste a xorg modify?
[08:04] <KaM> aet: can you paste your solution?
[08:04] <thoreauputic> tenco: the desktop CD uses the Ubiquity GUI install
[08:04] <gnomefreak> anyone happen to know the regen locales command off hand?
[08:05] <logicalmark> penguin42, OK I will do that. Assuming that I figure it out and set it up in MInicom, then how do I tell minicom to connect?
[08:05] <Scorpmoon> www.qunu.com is pretty neat
[08:05] <h3sp4wn> locale-gen
[08:05] <gnomefreak> ty
[08:05] <logicalmark> penguin42, Because in Hyperterminal I set the port, and the baud rate, and hit enter. BAM! It works. You know?
[08:05] <tenco> thoreauputic: ok. and sad. now i have to download another complete cd. or can i use the server cd, too?
[08:05] <catherine> is there a webpage somewhere that explains linux error messages?
[08:05] <Flannel> google is your best bet catherine
[08:06] <gnomefreak> ok brb tryt his again
[08:06] <catherine> i see.
[08:06] <catherine> i'll give it a go.
[08:06] <aet> KaM: change line 161 to Device     "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 320M (RS200 IGP)"
[08:06] <thoreauputic> tenco: you can use the server CD - but you'll have to install the desktop stuff yourself if you go that way
[08:06] <aet> KaM: that should give you open source drivers
[08:06] <thoreauputic> tenco: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should do it
[08:06] <KaM> aet: but monitor?
[08:06] <aet> or place BusID       "PCI:1:5:0" after line 125
[08:06] <saaaam> Newbie question: First time using ubuntu, how do I set up gcc? Tried downloading gcc 4.0 from synaptic but it doesn't seem to have worked.
[08:07] <winston> gnomfreak hey, any ideas on what i can do?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[08:07] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[08:07] <penguin42> logicalmark: so to set it up hit ctrl-A  and then o   to get the config menu
[08:07] <winston> gnomefreak hey, any ideas on what i can do?
[08:07] <penguin42> saaaam: With what errors?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> winston: not off hand
[08:07] <KaM> aet: no more problem with monitor after this?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> saaaam: install build-esential
[08:07] <saaaam> sam@ubuntu:~/cfiles$ gcc -Wall -ansi -o helloworld helloworld.c
[08:07] <saaaam>     bash: gcc: command not found
[08:07] <aet> KaM: whats your problem with the monitor? too low resolution?
[08:08] <tenco> thoreauputic: that's fine for me. i don't need a graphical ui
[08:08] <gnomefreak> saaaam: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:08] <thoreauputic> saaaam: did you see what I said?
[08:08] <tenco> thoreauputic: thanks
[08:08] <saaaam> Thanks
[08:08] <winston> gnomefreak gutenprint is installed, how do i proceed from there?
[08:08] <thoreauputic> tenco: OK no worries :)
[08:08] <gnomefreak> winston: open cups interface once the printer is pluged ina nd turned on
[08:08] <logicalmark> penguin42, I did an ls of my dev directory and found a listing for "ttyUSB0" but I cannot CD into it.
[08:08] <penguin42> logicalmark: I don't know if there are any friendlier/easier to use terminal programs (because I've always used minicom)
[08:08] <gnomefreak> winston: it should be in the first box
[08:08] <winston> cups intereface?
[08:09] <KaM> aet: the problem is that when i reboot pc after install the driver ati with installer, X ot start and I recieve the follow error: "screen not found"
[08:09] <gnomefreak> winston: system>admin>printing
[08:09] <penguin42> logicalmark: OK, good - now start minicom as root
[08:09] <winston> gnomefreak you mean print something
[08:09] <h3sp4wn> logicalmark: Install cu its easier to use than minicom
[08:09] <gnomefreak> winston: no i mean start cups interface
[08:09] <thoreauputic> !ati
[08:09] <ubotu> hmm... ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[08:09] <Scorpmoon> hmm if you dont press any key during reboot, the default menu activated is "Install or setup Ubuntu" right?
[08:09] <winston> gnomefreak how do you start cups interface?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> winston: system>admin>printing
[08:10] <dmbt> any of you familiar with debootstrapping ubuntu here?
[08:10] <winston> gnomefreak ive been doing that hundredrs of time- thats my problem
[08:10] <gnomefreak> winston: does it open?
[08:10] <logicalmark> h3sp4wn, I will try it if this does not work.
[08:10] <aet> KaM: that BusID line should take care of that
[08:10] <KenSentMe> When i run Gobby i get the following error: Howl initialisation failed. Probably you need to run mDNSResponder as root prior to Gobby. Zeroconf support is deactivated for this session. Anyone know what i can do about that?
[08:10] <winston> gnomefreak i click new printer, and my printer is there then it asks me for the PPD file
[08:10] <logicalmark> penguin42, I went to control A, option 0, and I set the com path to /dev/ttyUSB0
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> argh, X fails to start with Ubuntu x64 Live CD for me
[08:11] <KaM> aet: sorry repeat what I must do please
[08:11] <aet> KaM: or again you can use open source driver which dont have that problem
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> I have a newer ATI card
[08:11] <dust> has anyone had trouble burning a data dvd?
[08:11] <gnomefreak> winston: when you choose your printer you will see a dropdown on the bottom what does it say inthere
[08:11] <penguin42> logicalmark: Sounds good  (there seems to be a gui terminal called gtkterm in universe you might like to try if you want something prettier - but I've never tried it)
[08:11] <aet> KaM: or place BusID       "PCI:1:5:0" after line 125
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> No devices detected.
[08:11] <winston> gnomefreak do you mean the printerport drop down?
[08:12] <KaM> aet: now I try. Because I want to able 3d for install XGL
[08:12] <gnomefreak> winston: no   what part are you on give me the part number
[08:12] <logicalmark> penguin42, I will try both of the sugestions I have heard. Last question. Now how do I tell Minicom to try and connect?
[08:12] <KaM> aet: what of 2 solution is better?
[08:12] <winston> gnomefreak step 1 of 2 printer connection
[08:12] <KaM> aet: open source driver or proprietary?
[08:12] <penguin42> logicalmark: It just does - just start typing etc - you can get to things like break/hangup etc by doing a ctrl-a and then z
[08:12] <dixie> how to escape string in the shell in some simple way, to disable more expading?
[08:12] <SurfnKid_> Whats a good DNS server?
[08:12] <penguin42> dixie: 'thestring'
[08:12] <gnomefreak> winston: is your printer listed int he box int he middle of the page?
[08:13] <winston> gnomefreak i see printer type with my printer detected in there
[08:13] <winston> gnomefreak yes
[08:13] <gnomefreak> winston: ty
[08:13] <dmbt> i debootstrap, and when im in the bootstrapped enviorment, theres no networking, even after /etc/init.d/networking start
[08:13] <dixie> Putiikki: and if this strign contains '' ?
[08:13] <dmbt> ifconfig lists nothing
[08:13] <dmbt> nto even lo
[08:13] <chapium> anyone know how to make scim be the default input?
[08:13] <winston> gnomefreak its the next step thats a problem
[08:13] <gnomefreak> now make sure its on the right port (usb 1 i think is epson)
[08:13] <steveire> install opera was giving me broken issues, so I'm getting kazehakase
[08:13] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid_: bind - the one & only
[08:13] <dixie> penguin42: and if this string '$string' contains '' ?
[08:13] <dust> i've tried burning data dvd's but either it won't let me do it or i get a useless disc. what should i do?
[08:13] <penguin42> dmbt: Do you have an /etc/network/interfaces ?
[08:13] <logicalmark> penguin42, you were right! thanks for the help!
[08:13] <winston> gnomefreak what does ty mean?
[08:13] <gnomefreak> steveire: for dapper?
[08:13] <steveire> aptitude doesn't know about skipstone
[08:13] <penguin42> logicalmark: No problem
[08:13] <penguin42> dixie: Ah
[08:13] <gnomefreak> winston: ty is thank you
[08:14] <thoreauputic> steveire: skipstone is awful
[08:14] <gnomefreak> !opera
[08:14] <ubotu> download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[08:14] <steveire> gnomefreak: on a server install with xfce
[08:14] <gnomefreak> ^^^ theres one for dapper
[08:14] <thoreauputic> steveire: don't get skipstone
[08:14] <winston> gnomefreak no prob... so where do i go from there?
[08:14] <aet> KaM: i would just use open source drivers since ati doesnt seem to care much for radeon 9000 support anymore
[08:14] <kimo> I appologize for being OT, but has anyone found a DRM'd media file?? (I wanna download one, for *testing*, but weirdly cant find any)
[08:14] <gnomefreak> winston: did you make sure the prt list at bottom is set to right one?
[08:14] <adamant1988> kimo:  try anything from itunes
[08:14] <dmbt> penguin42: yes, i do have it
[08:14] <joko> Hi... I've upgraded from Ubuntu Breezy to Dapper, could anyone help me with network manager? How to install it configure it etc.?
[08:14] <SurfnKid_> Frogzoo, here's why, I have a problem reaaching the net with apt get on a laptop. so I thought if I install a DNS server locally on the net, maybe itll resolve from there.
[08:14] <dmbt> penguin42: but nothing is in it
[08:14] <winston> gnomefreak yes it is, but next stpe asks for a PPD agian
[08:14] <kimo> adamant1988: it's a free download ?
[08:15] <penguin42> dmbt: Ah well - fill it in!
[08:15] <gnomefreak> winston: click next to go to step 2
[08:15] <dmbt> penguin42: with what?
[08:15] <adamant1988> kimo: no, it's about 99 cents USD
[08:15] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid_: completely, and I mean 100%, not necessary
[08:15] <winston> gnomefreak im there
[08:15] <KaM> aet: ok, in order to use open source driver what I must do? Sorry but I'm not very expert, tnks
[08:15] <gnomefreak> winston: on step 2 you should see a long list of printers one being yours
[08:15] <winston> gnomefreak everything here is blank
[08:15] <penguin42> dmbt: man interfaces     has some examples
[08:15] <winston> gnomefreak no list all blank
[08:15] <gnomefreak> winston: theres no list
[08:15] <aet> KaM: you can just revert your old xorg.conf
[08:15] <catherine> success! :) i finally worked out what the problem was - why the computer couldn't find the operating system. the hard-drive was disabled in the bios!
[08:15] <winston> gnomefreak no list
[08:15] <gnomefreak> -winthan something in cups is messed up
[08:15] <kimo> adamant1988: can u send me any file :) I am not willing to pay
[08:16] <penguin42> dmbt: But I've never tried a deboostrap on ubuntu, only older debian - the debootstrap has put everything in place but being a bootstrap hasn't configured anything for the hardware you happen to have
[08:16] <Frogzoo> catherine: well that will do it ;)
[08:16] <KaM> aet: but with open source driver can I able 3d?
[08:16] <thoreauputic> catherine: heh - that would crimp your style :)
[08:16] <gnomefreak> winston: are you sure you have gimp-print nad gutenprint installed?
[08:16] <adamant1988> kimo:  I may have one in my collection, but I am not sure... rest assured they'll not play.
[08:16] <dmbt> penguin42: it kind of confusing, because im makein an openvz template
[08:16] <catherine> i worry now that all the old data on it was overwritten for nothing.
[08:16] <aet> KaM: yes!
[08:16] <dmbt> penguin42: i think ill just try copying the debian stable interface file
[08:16] <aalya> what the command for active nvidia plz ?
[08:16] <KaM> aet: ok tnks
[08:16] <SurfnKid_> Frogzoo, not neccesary?
[08:16] <winston> gnomefreak: i dont know nad, bu the rest appear green in synaptic what can i say?
[08:16] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[08:17] <_Mr_Denix_> hey ! anyone knows a chat client compatible with yahoo that has webcam support (for ubuntu) please ?
[08:17] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:17] <KaM> aet: thank you very much
[08:17] <penguin42> dmbt: Yeh you have to do all the config by hand inside your debootstrap (or find some pretty tools for it)
[08:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell aalya -about nvidia
[08:17] <dmbt> oh
[08:17] <aalya> thoreauputic: im in the console no graphic, plz say me the cmd...
[08:17] <winston> gnomefreak: if i use apt-get then it says it cant find the gutenprint pkg
[08:17] <gnomefreak> winston: ok than its a good time for you to go to launchpad.net and look for a bug on it
[08:18] <gnomefreak> winston: apt-cache search gutenprint
[08:18] <steveire> kazehakase wants me to download a personal security manager (PSM) to open https but I don't know how to get one from the repos
[08:18] <made> omg I feel to bad for dissing Xgl last night when I was on here. I had no idea what kind of eye candy somebody was talking about
[08:18] <made> does anybody know how to setup Xgl?
[08:18] <gnomefreak> you should see it than install the name as it appears in that list
[08:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell made -about xgl
[08:19] <winston> gnomefreak:  i get a page full of gutenprint stuff
[08:19] <Fjodor> !xgl
[08:19] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:19] <gnomefreak> winston: hold on
[08:19] <thoreauputic> steveire:  mozilla-psm
[08:19] <made> gnomefreak: I can read a wiki.. I asked does anybody know how to set it up?
[08:20] <gnomefreak> made: you missed the part where it said to join #ubuntu-xgl
[08:20] <Fjodor> made: There is a good thread on ubuntuforums.org ("One thread to rule them alll"
[08:20] <Fjodor> )
[08:20] <gnomefreak> made: the wiki tells you how to set it up also
[08:20] <made> thx gnomefreak
[08:20] <Fjodor> And yes, #ubuntu-xgl
[08:21] <CrippsFX>  I'm having *fun* trying to set up my RAID array ... I'm running the command: [root@localhost ~] # mdadm -C /dev/md0 -l5 -n 4 -p left-symmetric; ... but getting the output: mdadm: You haven't given enough devices (real or missing) to create this array;  ... I was wondering if someone had any insight to what I'm doing wrong, because RAID5 *should* work with 3 drives.
[08:21] <apokryphos> made: good idea to read the FAQ first :)
[08:21] <www> test
[08:21] <apokryphos> !test
[08:21] <ubotu> Failed.
[08:21] <elephanthunter> I need some help ;) I ran the sound recorder, messed around a little with the Volume Control, and now I have no sound at all. Is there a way to reset the sound settomgs
[08:21] <pdavid> anyone with experience in udev?  i am trying to get a usb hdd recognized by udev at boot time....
[08:21] <KenSentMe> When i run Gobby i get the following error: Howl initialisation failed. Probably you need to run mDNSResponder as root prior to Gobby. Zeroconf support is deactivated for this session. Anyone know what i can do about that?
[08:22] <gnomefreak> winston: install cupsys-driver-gimpprint and cupsys-driver-gutenprint  than restart cups interface
[08:22] <Frogzoo> elephanthunter: you've probly muted something - check ur settings
[08:22] <winston> gnomefreak:  ok
[08:22] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: did you try running mDNSResponder ? :)
[08:22] <sikor_sxe> i think i remember there was a way to make certain modules unload before acpi suspend and load again after wakeup
[08:22] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: since it suggests it..
[08:22] <sikor_sxe> where can i configure this?
[08:22] <_binks_> winston u sort it yet
[08:23] <elephanthunter> Frogzoo: I wish it were that simple, but I'm not seeing anything muted here.
[08:23] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: command not found
[08:23] <www> I've switched to Ubuntu due to a virus, but it will be a bit of a learning curve for other people who use this computer [they only have a basic knowledge of using Windows] . Is there any way or method of making it easier for them?
[08:23] <winston> gnomefreak: the first i have installed, the second cant be found
[08:23] <_binks_> systen > admin > printing then add new printer
[08:23] <winston> _binks_: no still at the same prob
[08:23] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: apt-cache search mdnsresponder
[08:23] <gnomefreak> winston: tell me what uname -r says when typed in terminal
[08:24] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: try tha package that shows
[08:24] <winston> _binks_: In the cups ui i see my printer bu in step 2, everything is blank
[08:24] <gnomefreak> winston: i think cupsys is the issue in this iirc
[08:24] <Frogzoo> elephanthunter: try a reboot
[08:24] <winston> gnomefreak: 2.6.15-23-386
[08:25] <gnomefreak> winston: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   please run that command as i typed it
[08:25] <elephanthunter> Frogzoo: Just rebooted.
[08:25] <www> :)
[08:25] <catherine> thanks all for your help :)
[08:25] <winston> gnomefreak: its running
[08:25] <_binks_> in the bottom box what is selected in step 2
[08:25] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: installed it, but still command not found
[08:26] <winston> gnomefrea: The following packages have been kept back:
[08:26] <winston>   gnome-cups-manager python-netcdf
[08:26] <Frogzoo> www: with no window selected, hit F1 - you'll get the gnome help - it's a good introduction
[08:26] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:26] <winston> gnomefreak The following packages have been kept back:
[08:26] <winston>   gnome-cups-manager python-netcdf
[08:26] <steveire> thoreauputic: Thanks for all the help. Now it's working the way I expected it to work 5 hours ago :). Next step install AMP
[08:26] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: hmm - dpkg -L mdns-scan | grep bin
[08:26] <gnomefreak> winston: i saw it
[08:26] <thoreauputic> steveire: :)
[08:26] <anathema> hey im having a problem with wifi in dapper...when i insert my prism 2.5 based card the orinoco module gets loaded...i want the prism module to get loaded...where do i specify which module gets loaded for which card, i cant find the config file anywhere
[08:26] <winston> gnomefreak: sorry
[08:26] <horinek> hi can anybody help me with samba: I cant see my workgroup but when i use ip adress to connect on remote comp I can see remote folder
[08:26] <gnomefreak> winston: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:26] <anathema> anyone ?
[08:26] <gnomefreak> winston: try the above command
[08:27] <www> www: test
[08:27] <thoreauputic> www: failed
[08:27] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:27] <winston> gnomefreak: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[08:27] <anathema> someone here must know about pcmcia stuff..anyone please? drivin me nuts
[08:27] <D1> does anyone know if there are any unofficial packages for gnash in dapper out there?
[08:27] <Viking> join #ubuntu
[08:27] <D1> I found some debian packages, but don't know if they work.
[08:27] <Viking> join <#ubuntu>
[08:27] <thoreauputic> Viking: that's where you are now :)
[08:27] <grencez> .. yep, you're good
[08:27] <Echelon-H> where do I configure XDM GDM or KDM?
[08:27] <Frogzoo> www: with no window selected, hit F1 - you'll get the gnome help - it's a good introduction - (please read peeps replies)
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> D1: You are best off using the source packages if they are for debian and building them with debuild against the dapper libraries
[08:28] <miguelsr> some one know how reinstall dapper bye the terminal?
[08:28] <www> Thanks, frogzoo.
[08:28] <thoreauputic> miguelsr: use the alternat CD
[08:28] <johnsie> u mean for xubuntu?
[08:28] <D1> ok, thanks. just surprised there aren't any debs for ubuntu yet.
[08:28] <Echelon-H> in what file do I configure XDM GDM or KDM?
[08:28] <thoreauputic> *alternate
[08:29] <Viking> Join #ubuntu
[08:29] <johnsie> sudo gdmsetup
[08:29] <Viking> Join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:29] <anathema> hey im having a problem with wifi in dapper...when i insert my prism 2.5 based card the orinoco module gets loaded...i want the prism module to get loaded...where do i specify which module gets loaded for which card, i cant find the config file anywhere?? help please
[08:29] <cornflake> yeah... i'm having a problem w/ the print setup in dapper
[08:29] <Echelon-H> in what file do I configure XDM GDM or KDM?
[08:29] <johnsie> xdm = gdm
[08:29] <winston> gnomefreak: any ideas?
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> anathema: blacklist the occorino module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:30] <Frogzoo> cornflake: which printer?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> D1: I compiled gnash a few weeks ago - it wasn't very successful ( in fact I got no flash functionality at all) YMMV
[08:30] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: it lists /usr/bin /usr/bin/mdns-scan but when i run mdns-scan with sudo it keeps browsing and when i run gobby i still get the error
[08:30] <D1> oh, that sucks.
[08:30] <Echelon-H> johnsie, whatever, where do I configure it?
[08:30] <johnsie> sudo gdmsetup
[08:30] <anathema> h3sp4wn thanks ill try that
[08:30] <Echelon-H> no, I need it through a terminal
[08:30] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: hmm - running out of ideas, sorry
[08:30] <johnsie> ummm
[08:30] <cornflake> Frogzoo, hp deskjet 5940 - i got the right driver and all, but i accidently "removed" it and when i go back to install it again, i get an error message saying that the driver was already installed
[08:31] <johnsie> what do you need to configure?
[08:31] <keiaah> Hey everyone. I need a little help, I removed my trash icon by mistake. How can I get it back?
[08:31] <Echelon-H> johnsie I just need that file.
[08:31] <thoreauputic> keiaah: right click the panel. add a trash applet
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> anathema: If you look at the things already in there then its pretty simple to do (you already know which module it is)
[08:31] <js_> what xkbmodel should i use for a laptop?
[08:31] <Frogzoo> cornflake: easy fix might be - install a different driver - then you should be able to reinstall
[08:31] <Viking> can anyone help me?
[08:31] <winston> gnomefreak: you still there?
[08:31] <Viking> can anyone help me?
[08:31] <keiaah> thoreauputic, thank you ;)
[08:32] <thoreauputic> keiaah: no problem :)
[08:32] <miguelsr> thoreauputic: i wass updating breezy to dapper but my lap shut down and now iam on the terminal and i put startx but dont start
[08:32] <Frogzoo> Viking: just ask your question - someone might know the answer
[08:32] <anathema> h3sp4wn yeah im not a linux noob at all, just this one thing really screwing me up
[08:32] <miguelsr> thoreauputic: and it says that xserver is not available
[08:32] <thoreauputic> miguelsr: if the process wa interrupted, you may be in deep trouble
[08:32] <Frogzoo> miguelsr: probly would be quicker to do a fresh install
[08:33] <Viking> how do i install java?
[08:33] <thoreauputic> !java
[08:33] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[08:33] <thoreauputic> !javadebs
[08:33] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[08:33] <thoreauputic> !tell Viking about repos
[08:33] <ttuttle> What is the name of the package that provides the actual binary Linux kernel image, and is there a 2.6.12-9 version in Breezy?
[08:34] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: no problem, thanx anyway
[08:34] <winston> _binks_: you still there
[08:34] <thoreauputic> TTilus: linux-image- * and yes
[08:34] <dooglus> ttuttle: there are several, depending on the release and architecture.
[08:34] <Scorpmoon> omg who decided to put 1280x1024 with insane sync as default VESA resolution?
[08:34] <thoreauputic> ttuttle: sorry that was for you
[08:34] <cornflake> Frogzoo, nahh... it was the wrong fix, but i did figure it out... had to read the error message carefully then go to the folder and remove it
[08:35] <Scorpmoon> you call that "safe graphics" mode?
[08:35] <Scorpmoon> gesh
[08:35] <dooglus> ttuttle: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is a good place to look
[08:35] <Scorpmoon> my monitor goes out of sync
[08:35] <nox-Hand> Hey
[08:35] <ttuttle> dooglus: I checked there... it's for amd64-generic.
[08:35] <ttuttle> dooglus: All I can find is, in base, kernel-image-2.6.11.9.
[08:35] <ttuttle> dooglus: But the source and headers packages go to 2.6.12-10.
[08:36] <thoreauputic> ttuttle: look for linux-image as I said above
[08:36] <catherine> hello again. i'm using xubuntu and my menu just got eaten by that bug in the editor! how do i get the menus back?
[08:36] <dooglus> ttuttle: which release?  dapper?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> ttuttle: apt-cache search linux-image
[08:36] <nox-Hand> Does anyone know how I could add a thing so when I right click on my desktop, in the options I have there, I can get an icon on which it says gnome-terminal, so I can launch from there?
[08:36] <gnomefreak> winston: install the 2 that were not upgraded
[08:37] <dmbt> any of you familiar with this: E: Couldn't determine free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/ - statvfs (75 Value too large for defined data type)
[08:37] <catherine> yes, i'm using dapper.
[08:37] <dmbt> again, this is a debootstrap envoirment
[08:37] <dooglus> ttuttle: did you see this? http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-amd64-generic
[08:37] <ttuttle> dooglus: breezy.
[08:37] <ttuttle> dooglus: Yes.  Is that Ubuntu-patched or vanilla?
[08:37] <horinek> hi can anybody help me with smb?
[08:37] <dooglus> ttuttle: ubuntu only distribute ubuntu-patched kernels.
[08:37] <ttuttle> dooglus: Okay, good.
[08:37] <winston> gnomefreak: you mean do an apt-get ?
[08:38] <gnomefreak> winston: sudo apt-get install the 2 packages that were not upgraded
[08:38] <msid> how can i place the network monitor widget within the system tray ?
[08:38] <winston> gnomefreak: in progress
[08:39] <horinek> how can I disable firewall?
[08:39] <gnomefreak> winston: most of time i wouldnt do that unless told 2 there are reasons packages are kept back
[08:39] <gnomefreak> im gonna go finish the fight im in ill be back in a bit
[08:39] <thoreauputic> horinek: there isn't one bt default
[08:39] <winston> gnomefreak: ok, thats done, you want me to try cups agian at this point?
[08:39] <thoreauputic> horinek: what do you mean?
[08:40] <dooglus> horinek: how did you enable it?
[08:40] <egu> how may I fix a possible filesystem error?
[08:40] <dooglus> horinek: if you didn't, then it's probably already about as disabled as it's going to get
[08:40] <dooglus> egu: 'fsck'
[08:40] <horinek> i use auto script to xgl and then i have firestarter
[08:40] <msid> noone knows how to place a widget in the system tray ?
[08:41] <egu> dooglus, do I have to umount first?
[08:41] <dooglus> egu: I don't know if you have to, but you should
[08:41] <thoreauputic> horinek: firestarter has an option to diable the firewall
[08:41] <ic56> egu: yes, you must umount before using fsck
[08:42] <egu> dooglus, ic56: umount everything?
[08:42] <dooglus> egu: just the filesystem in question
[08:42] <thoreauputic> horinek: strangely enough the button says "stop firewall" :)
[08:42] <winston> gnomefreak: guess what! It works!!!! I'm printing now --- thanks a million!!!!!!!!!!
[08:42] <ic56> egu: only the filesystem you want to fsck
[08:42] <egu> ok..
[08:42] <horinek> i know but when i reboot it star agin
[08:42] <thoreauputic> winston: that was a saga :)
[08:42] <thoreauputic> winston: congrats :)
[08:43] <jammer> hi there
[08:43] <jammer> someine here?
[08:43] <jammer> someone
[08:43] <kane77> jammer, hi...
[08:43] <thoreauputic> horinek: right - it starts from /etc/init.d/firestarter
[08:43] <winston> thoreauputic: Indeed a few hours worth. Yeah it was all because of uninstalled packages during the dist-upgrade
[08:43] <darkprophet> hi all, i cant seem to get any sort of playback in my browsers
[08:43] <darkprophet> ive got the toten-xine-plugin installed
[08:43] <darkprophet> any ideas ?
[08:43] <thoreauputic> winston: ah :)
[08:44] <thoreauputic> winston: that sonds like a bug
[08:44] <dooglus> winston: did you make sure ubuntu-desktop was installed before upgrading?
[08:44] <miguelsr> Frogzoo: how do i do a fesh install?
[08:44] <horinek> so when i stop it and then apt-get remove firestarter i eill help<
[08:44] <horinek> ?
[08:44] <thoreauputic> dooglus: good question
[08:44] <horinek> will
[08:44] <jammer> Hi there someone can tell me in wich way I can enable gcc4 and g++ on my 6.06 box ?
[08:44] <egu> can I umount / ?
[08:44] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[08:44] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[08:45] <thoreauputic> jammer: build-esential
[08:45] <winston> dooglus: err not sur ewhat you mean. I had breezy, modified my sources.list and did an update/dist-upgrade
[08:45] <catherine> to fix this menu bug in xubutu, the release notes tell me that i have to "remove ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml, log out from Xfce and then log in again." how do i do this?
[08:45] <dooglus> egu: you can mount in readonly - I don't know if that's enough: "sudo mount -o remount,ro /"
[08:45] <thoreauputic> winston: if you didn't have the ubuntu-desktop package installed, things go pear-shaped
[08:45] <dooglus> egu: not sure that command is exactly right
[08:46] <horinek> thoreauputic: so when i stop it and then apt-get remove firestarter it will help me?
[08:46] <thoreauputic> catherine: rm ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml  log out, log in
[08:46] <jammer> with install build-essential I've an error like
[08:46] <jammer> the package is broken
[08:46] <jammer> but in italian
[08:46] <jammer> :D
[08:46] <thoreauputic> horinek: not unless you purge the configuration
[08:46] <egu> dooglus, then it returns "mount: / is busy"
[08:46] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> aet: nothing to do
[08:47] <winston> thoreauputic: how do you do that? I saw nothing on ubunut site on how to upgrade so I followed instructions on another website--- will the distro upgrades eventually be done using synaptic or some automated way?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> horinek: sudo apt-get remove --purge firestarter
[08:47] <miguelsr> thoreauputic: how do i do a fresh install?
[08:47] <catherine> thoreau: a super-clueless question, but do i do this in the terminal?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> winston: they already are
[08:47] <Flannel> winston: it's done using update-notifier currently.
[08:47] <horinek> thoreauputic: thanks
[08:47] <dooglus> egu: hmmm.  best to reboot into rescue mode I guess, or a live CD, or some such.
[08:47] <thoreauputic> catherine: yes
[08:47] <catherine> thanks :)
[08:48] <thoreauputic> !tell winston about upgrade
[08:48] <jammer> thoreauputic: I've an error with The package is corrupted
[08:48] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> aet: this time I recieve the error that the line that we have add isn't in the right place
[08:48] <lufis> Can someone help me with compiling a program from CVS?
[08:48] <AngryElf> how do i set up my printer to be shared to other ubuntu computers?
[08:48] <egu> dooglus, how to reboot in resque? the list only says safe mode..?
[08:48] <thoreauputic> jammer: build-essential is corrupted? I doubt that ...
[08:48] <craig> can anyone help me get my pctv usb2 tv card working?
[08:49] <jammer> yes
[08:49] <jammer> is corrupted
[08:49] <dooglus> egu: resque?
[08:49] <jammer> may I ask you in private?
[08:49] <egu> dooglus, should have been rescue..:)
[08:49] <Mark1412> guys i need help
[08:50] <Mark1412> what program do u use to burn avi vids to dvd that can be played on a dvd player
[08:50] <Frogzoo> Mark1412: on that information, we can't do much ....
[08:50] <thoreauputic> jammer: no, keep your questions here in channel please
[08:50] <jammer> ok
[08:50] <masinger53> Hello - need help with telling apt or synaptic to install a single package from a usb stick -- can't seem to find anything in docs or Google
[08:50] <dooglus> egu: I don't know, sorry.  I thought it was a grub option, at boot-time.  But I can't get grub to work for me.
[08:50] <jammer> Here my Error:
[08:50] <jammer> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:50] <jammer> Reading package lists... Done
[08:50] <jammer> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:50] <jammer> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[08:50] <jammer> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[08:50] <jammer> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[08:50] <jammer> or been moved out of Incoming.
[08:50] <jammer> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[08:50] <Frogzoo> jammer: no spam thx
[08:50] <jammer> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[08:50] <jammer> that package should be filed.
[08:50] <jammer> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[08:50] <thoreauputic> jammer: sudo apt-get remove --purge build-essential && sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:50] <jammer> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:50] <AngryElf> masinger53, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[08:50] <jammer>   build-essential: Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[08:50] <jammer> E: Broken packages
[08:50] <egu> dooglus, ok.. thanks anyway..:)
[08:50] <jammer> let me try
[08:51] <thoreauputic> jammer: do *not* paste in here
[08:51] <masinger53> AngryElf: that gives me a not found error
[08:51] <steveire> is there an easy way for me to see how much space is free on a partition?
[08:51] <dooglus> steveire: "df"
[08:51] <Geoffrey2> oops, guess nobody told jammer about pastebin :)
[08:51] <AngryElf> masinger53, did you replace package.deb with the actual file?
[08:51] <ttuttle> dooglus: /quit
[08:51] <steveire> cool, thanks
[08:51] <ttuttle> whoops
[08:52] <thoreauputic> jammer: check your sources and update
[08:52] <eobanb> !tell jammer about paste
[08:52] <thoreauputic> jammer: and bever do that again
[08:52] <thoreauputic> *never
[08:52] <masinger53> AngryElf: aye, even tried moving it to home directory and listing absolute path
[08:52] <Mark1412> what program do u use to burn avi vids to dvd that can be played on a dvd player
[08:52] <jammer> yes Sorry
[08:52] <AngryElf> masinger53, paste the error
[08:52] <jammer> for flood
[08:52] <troy_s> mark1412:  try any2dvd bro.
[08:52] <catherine> i have one more totally clueless question. i deleted the 'applications' button when fiddling, trying to fix the menu problem. how do i get it back? ;)
[08:52] <troy_s> mark1412:  it is a simple script that tries to batch vert almost anything into proper dvd structure.
[08:53] <soon> Is there any good reason to prefer Ubuntu over Kubuntu (I dont mean to start no flamewars) ... just some thoughts ...
[08:53] <troy_s> catherine:  you MIGHT need to re-add it via right clicking on the panel.
[08:53] <eobanb> catherine, sure, no problem
[08:53] <masinger53> AngryElf:  cannot paste as it is on my laptop which is still not connecting (wireless woes)
[08:53] <troy_s> soon:  personal pref.
[08:53] <thoreauputic> Geoffrey2: pastebin is in the /topic - not that anyone ever reads it ;/
[08:53] <eobanb> yeah, what troy_s said
[08:53] <CrippsFX> soon, my good reason to prefer ubuntu is that I'm a gnome user ...
[08:53] <Geoffrey2> every time I start up ubuntu, I need to unlock the default keyring so the network manager can connect to my wireless network...is there any way to automate that process?
[08:53] <Mark1412> troy_s: is not in synaptic
[08:53] <phil____> im having trouble getting my camera to download pictures.  ubuntu recognizes that i attached the camera but then gives the following error in the import pictures window: An error occurred in the io-library ('Bad parameters'): Could not find USB device (vendor 0x4a9, product 0x30fd). Make sure this device is connected to the computer.
[08:53] <Mark1412> troy_s: where can i get it
[08:53] <troy_s> mark1412:  it is only a skript... try a google.
[08:53] <jammer> thoreauputic: I've distro from a 5.10 to 6.06 ugraded as ubuntuforum procedure.... Have You a good source resource to see ?
[08:53] <AngryElf> it seems you are still able to type fine though...try that
[08:54] <eobanb> jammer, 'source resource'?
[08:54] <soon> so just that KDE vs. Gnome ... otherwise support etc is the same?
[08:54] <thoreauputic> !tell jammer about upgrade
[08:54] <troy_s> mark1412:  it will require some tools you will need to add via apt-get or synaptic or whatever you prefer.
[08:54] <troy_s> soon:  basically identical soon -- the wm just controls the look and feel really.
[08:54] <jammer> a webpage to see the correct mine source if it is wrong
[08:54] <on2see> what is the name of the latest ubuntu release?
[08:54] <thoreauputic> !sources
[08:54] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:54] <catherine> i figured that it was via right-clicking on the panel, but then i wasn't quite sure what i should add that would recreate what that menu button had.
[08:54] <catherine> as in, how i'd get the same list.
[08:55] <eobanb> catherine, scroll down and under Utilities in the Add to Panel window, choose Menu Bar
[08:55] <troy_s> catherine:  iirc add a new panel and it is one of the menu things listed there.
[08:55] <thoreauputic> on2see: 6.06 LTS or Dapper Drake
[08:55] <lufis> If I install beta software not available from the suppository, I put it on /opt, right?
[08:55] <masinger53> AngryElf:  here is error --> error processing blah-blah-package,deb (--install): cannot access archive: no such file or directory
[08:55] <on2see> ( I still have hoary hedgehog )
[08:55] <CrippsFX> suppository
[08:55] <eobanb> catherine, you can also try Main Menu if you like the menu bar all in one icon  la KDE's K menu
[08:55] <Eleaf> ewwwwwwwwwwww
[08:55] <jammer> wow Fantastic...
[08:55] <Eleaf> hoary
[08:55] <Eleaf> lol
[08:55] <bazald> hey, anyone know how to get a prism based pcmcia wifi card working in Ubuntu 6.06?  linux-wlan-ng seems to be failing me
[08:55] <CrippsFX> lufis, it's REpository
[08:55] <jammer> Let me read a bit :)
[08:55] <geno_> Is 128MB enough for runnng Gnome/Ubuntu? Or would Xubuntu be better? It ran windows 2K okay.
[08:55] <Frogzoo> lufis: s/suppository/repository/   ;)
[08:55] <CrippsFX> ;)
[08:55] <thoreauputic> catherine: if this is xubuntu, ask in #xubuntu
[08:55] <diop> wow
[08:55] <Mark1412> troy_s: can u walk me thru it
[08:55] <lufis> CrippsFX: Oh, geez, thats what i meant :(
[08:55] <AngryElf> if you're sure you're pointing to the right place check the perms on the file
[08:55] <CrippsFX> lufis, sorta figured :P
[08:55] <troy_s> geno_:  should be ok.  try it.. .if it is too sluggish try a lighter wm
[08:56] <troy_s> geno_: there are many -- blackbox is VERY light... fluxbox etc.
[08:56] <phil____> im having trouble getting my camera to download pictures.  ubuntu recognizes that i attached the camera but then gives the following error in the import pictures window: An error occurred in the io-library ('Bad parameters'): Could not find USB device (vendor 0x4a9, product 0x30fd). Make sure this device is connected to the computer.
[08:56] <troy_s> Mark1412: certainly!
[08:56] <Angel_Dex> Hello all!!! =o!!!!!! I need help o.o Installing a Asus graphics card powerd by Nvidia MX 4000
[08:56] <lufis> CrippsFX: Ha, sorry, I'm a little tired
[08:56] <geno_> troy_s: Ok thanks, should I try gnome or xfce first?
[08:56] <Mark1412> troy_s: thanks!!!!
[08:56] <Frogzoo> phil____: we heard you the first time m8
[08:56] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, no need to ask to ask, just ask.
[08:56] <CrippsFX> lufis, it happens to the best of us :)
[08:56] <troy_s> warning!  talking about wm's will induce religious zealotry which is totally fun.
[08:56] <Mark1412> troy_s: i downloaded the file already
[08:56] <Jaquel> Does anyone know how to remove a stubborn icon from the dekstop?  I have a zip drive icon that does not have a "Remove" or "Delete" option
[08:56] <CrippsFX> troy_s, indeed.
[08:56] <troy_s> Mark1412: so you have the any2dvd?
[08:56] <Mark1412> troy_s: so all i need is to go from there
[08:57] <Mark1412> troy_s: yes
[08:57] <phil____> Frogzoo: i know
[08:57] <Angel_Dex> eobanb Will it work no hassal? or i need to install other extra stuff for it?
[08:57] <troy_s> Mark1412: let me step through it with you... give me a second.
[08:57] <phil____> Frogzoo: but sometimes not everyone catches it the first time
[08:57] <CrippsFX> geno_, martyr. :P
[08:57] <Mark1412> troy_s: sure
[08:57] <KanRiNiN> Hey I'm curious, what are a few good scripts you guys use to make xchat easier to read?
[08:57] <aLPHa_LeaK> !upgrade
[08:57] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[08:57] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> anybody can help me?
[08:57] <catherine> ah, i can see what the problem is. after i removed that menu file, there is now nothing in the menus that drop down when i click on the applications button.
[08:57] <thoreauputic> phil____: are you sure your nick has enough underscores ? *g*
[08:57] <troy_s> Mark1412: you snagged it from sourceforge i take it?
[08:57] <catherine> any hints?
[08:57] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> anybody can help me? I want to enable 3d
[08:57] <phil____> thoreauputic: lol
[08:58] <Ademan> Kanrinin: what's hard to read?
[08:58] <Mark1412> troy_s: yeas
[08:58] <jikbag> there we go
[08:58] <geno_> troy_s: Ok thanks, should I try gnome or xfce first?
[08:58] <eobanb> !tell Angel_Dex about nvidia
[08:58] <mciann> postfix/maildrop question:   maildrop ignores /etc/maildroprc and ~/.mailfilter.  I am trying to get maildrop to deliver to ~/Maildir, but it insists on going to /var/mail/(mbox)  contents of maildroprc work when copied to a new file and run in manual mode.  Running maildrop 1.5.3-2 on Ubuntu server 6.06
[08:58] <CrippsFX> !tell ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[  about fglrx
[08:58] <troy_s> geno_: your choice... i rec gnome cuz it is totally default and quite good for a starter...
[08:58] <Ademan> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: what do you mean enable 3d? in what? do you mean you want to use your graphics card driver?
[08:58] <Frogzoo> geno_: yes
[08:58] <CrippsFX> !tell ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[  about nvidia
[08:58] <thoreauputic> catherine: did you log out and in again? I think the file should be auto-generated
[08:58] <masinger53> AngryElf:  Doh!  <slaps hand to forehead>
[08:58] <troy_s> geno_: if it runs too sluggishly, try something lighter
[08:59] <catherine> i logged out and logged back in again, yes. twice, in fact. should i try a total reboot?
[08:59] <Angel_Dex> thankers
[08:59] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> I've a ATI card
[08:59] <KanRiNiN> Ademan: there's no autocomplete for me, and the person isn't highlighted when my name is said
[08:59] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> ATI mobility radeon 9000
[08:59] <CrippsFX> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[,  then the fglrx page will be for you
[08:59] <eobanb> !tell ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[ about ati
[08:59] <thoreauputic> catherine: this is xubuntu right? Have you asked in #xubuntu ? ( /join #xubuntu )
[08:59] <CrippsFX> !tell eobanb about me
[08:59] <loanwolf> ? kde 3.5.2 is in synaptic....how do i add 3.5.3
[08:59] <_Mr_Denix_> hello :)
[08:59] <Ademan> Kanrinin: well, uh, what version of xchat are you using? xchat-gnome does all that for me automatically, i didnt do anything
[08:59] <lufis> Ok, so, for instance I wanted to install Gaim 2.0 beta, where would I put the files? In /opt? or /bin? or anywhere i wanted?
[09:00] <eobanb> CrippsFX, ...??
[09:00] <CrippsFX> eobanb, :P   ....
[09:00] <Geoffrey2> !tell Geoffrey2 about ati
[09:00] <CrippsFX> eobanb, I don't know. it seemed funny at the time
[09:00] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> how can I see what driver use?
[09:00] <McGyver^> hi
[09:00] <CrippsFX> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[, fglrx
[09:00] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> how can I see what driver use now?
[09:00] <CrippsFX> Geoffrey2, to find out stuff from the bot, jut do "/msg ubotu <subject>"
[09:00] <bazald> any of you know what might cause a "kobject_register failed" message in dmesg?
[09:00] <eobanb> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[, read what we're telling you please
[09:00] <CrippsFX> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[,  use fglrx
[09:00] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> ok
[09:01] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> tnks
[09:01] <Geoffrey2> CrippsFX, will do
[09:01] <KanRiNiN> Ademan: alright I'll try that.  I'm using regular xchat
[09:01] <troy_s> thoreauputic: LOL
[09:01] <eobanb> thoreauputic, agreed..
[09:01] <catherine> it is xubuntu, yes. #xubuntu seemed awfully quiet when i last went there, but i can ask again.
[09:01] <amortvigil> hey i have an fat partition so i could switch files between my xp os and my ubuntu os but i cant get write premissions even gksudo nautilus or chmod blocks it what can i do?
[09:01] <mciann> He's like wowbagger the infinitely sane - he has everything but himself enclosed in brackets.
[09:01] <Angel_Dex> eobanb Now this doesnt say Do i Put the card in first then install drivers or drivers first XP
[09:01] <NH|avatar|a> Anyone knows if there is a problem with atheros/madwifi cards i dapper 6.06
[09:01] <CrippsFX> hm. my partitions are all skinny.
[09:02] <Ademan> Kanrinin: well the one i have installed by default with dapper, so i dont know
[09:02] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, you mean the card isnt installed in your machine yet..?
[09:02] <Angel_Dex> eobanb No? i just got home with it o.o
[09:02] <Frogzoo> amortvigil: mount it with 'user=' flag
[09:02] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, well maybe that would be a good first step, hm?
[09:02] <amortvigil> frogzoo: how?
[09:02] <Angel_Dex> eobanb well idk i thought youd need the drivers first
[09:02] <catherine> it seems that the menu.xml file isn't regenerating when i log out and back in - terminal tells me that the file doesn't exist.
[09:03] <armedking> I'm struggling whole day to get my 3d working on a Ati Radeon 9200SE I used all docs ubuntu has to offer me but still no 3d. Anyway here's my xorg log. Cant make heads or tales of it. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15562
[09:03] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, in dapper, if xorg cant figure out how to use your card with the right driver it will fall back to a more limited, compatible one
[09:03] <Angel_Dex> eobanb breezy
[09:03] <Chousuke> armedking: it should work out of the box. Just use the "radeon" driver
[09:03] <CrippsFX> armedking, first: what is the output from glxinfo  ?
[09:03] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, well as dapper is the most recent version of ubuntu i do suggest you update
[09:03] <Angel_Dex> eobanb havent felt the need to update to dapper
[09:03] <Chousuke> or was it called "ati"?
[09:03] <freddyubuntu> I have an external modem, I want to know if Ubuntu knows my modem or not...what should I do ?
[09:03] <Frogzoo> amortvigil: in /etc/fstab , pass the option 'uid=UID'   where UID is your user id
[09:03] <Scorpmoon> I'm at the "Prepare mount points" screen of Ubuntu installation.. if finds my 2nd harddisk and suggests /media/sdb1 for it.. but I don't want this involved in my Ubuntu.. do I just select the dropdown list and choose "" to leave it out?
[09:03] <firebird> it's ati I think, chousuke
[09:04] <ydnar> how can i disable document and directory history in the file manager?
[09:04] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, well you'll probably have an easier time
[09:04] <eXistenZ> Frogzoo, Are you familiar with the error "Buffer I/O error on device hdb1"?
[09:04] <RadiantFire> Scorpmoon: you can
[09:05] <Frogzoo> Scorpmoon: don't select a mount point & double check the install won't format it
[09:05] <armedking> glxinfo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15563
[09:05] <RadiantFire> select the filesystem and then hit "do not use"
[09:05] <CrippsFX> Saskatoon ... there's plenty of room for all of God's creatures ... right next to the mashed potatoes.
[09:05] <freddyubuntu> anybody can tell me how I can see if ubuntu knows my modem or not?
[09:05] <freddyubuntu> I have an external modem
[09:05] <steveire> thanks for that dooglus. I think I'm going to have to make this partition bigger... It's incredible how big it gets.
[09:05] <Frogzoo> eXistenZ: doesn't look very promising
[09:05] <Angel_Dex> GeForce4 MX 4000 	0x0185 eobanb Thats my card but its made by Asus that matter?
[09:05] <freddyubuntu> I want to see if ubuntu can use it or not
[09:05] <Scorpmoon> Frogzoo, they are NTFS formatted.. if I select them as mount points, I will get read only access?
[09:05] <weedar> Has anyone had any success getting Canon i850 printer working under Dapper?
[09:05] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, is this the card you just bought..??
[09:05] <Scorpmoon> can I be absolute sure the data wont be corrupted with the linux NTFS driver
[09:05] <freddyubuntu> do you ppl even listen to me?
[09:05] <Scorpmoon> its very important data
[09:05] <brandon_> if i write a bash script that includes some commands that require root privileges, is there a way to supply the password automatically?
[09:05] <RadiantFire> Scorpmoon: there are ways of getting read/write, but there is no way of being sure
[09:06] <Frogzoo> Scorpmoon: there is no r/w ntfs in ubuntu - fat32 is your best bet
[09:06] <freddyubuntu> or i better leve this room?
[09:06] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, if you're replacing one nvidia card with another, you shouldnt need a new driver
[09:06] <RadiantFire> Scorpmoon: the read mode won't r/w
[09:06] <Scorpmoon> i dont need to write to it
[09:06] <Angel_Dex> eobanb yeah its not the greatest but eh its better then a rage pro ultra 128
[09:06] <eXistenZ> Frogzoo, What can I do about it?
[09:06] <RadiantFire> Scorpmoon: read mode won't corrupt it
[09:06] <CrippsFX> freddyubuntu,
[09:06] <eobanb> !tell Fred about patience
[09:06] <CrippsFX> !patience
[09:06] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[09:06] <Frogzoo> eXistenZ: check /var/log/messages - what were you doing to cause the error?
[09:06] <eXistenZ> Frogzoo, I cannot even boot it
[09:06] <amortvigil> frogzoo: hte partition isnt in my fstab
[09:06] <Scorpmoon> thx Radiant
[09:06] <freddyubuntu> ok I appologize, please forgive me Lords
[09:07] <Frogzoo> !tell freddyubuntu about hardware
[09:07] <Scorpmoon> i'm abit worried if Ubuntu will format them though
[09:07] <eobanb> !tell freddyubuntu about modem
[09:07] <eXistenZ> Frogzoo, When it does the fschk (something) check, it starts scanning and then I get those errors.
[09:07] <Scorpmoon> but it seems the Reformat checkbox isnt checked
[09:07] <Scorpmoon> but everytime I see a format icon next to my valuable data, i panic
[09:07] <Angel_Dex> eobanb alright im gonna swap out then install the drivers BRB man many thanks
[09:07] <Frogzoo> amortvigil: this is an external usb?
[09:07] <freddyubuntu> actualy I want to use my US ROBOTIC external modem as an answering machine
[09:07] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, i'm not sure you understood me correctly
[09:08] <armedking> CrippsFX: Any ideas.
[09:08] <Angel_Dex> eobanb o.o buti dont wanna update TT_TT
[09:08] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, i said if you're swapping one nvidia card for another you dont need to install new drivers
[09:08] <CrippsFX> armedking, wha?
[09:08] <lonegeek> Whenever i used avidemux2 and try to encode video with LAME audio....i get "LAME initialization failed           Not activated."
[09:08] <Angel_Dex> eobanb its not the one im getting rid of is a rage pro ultra
[09:08] <amortvigil> frogzoo:its an partition
[09:09] <armedking> CrippsFX: You asked for glxinfo output remember ;-)
[09:09] <amortvigil> frogzoo:its an fat partition
[09:09] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, you must understand that when you put the new card in, X is probably not going to work
[09:09] <amortvigil> frogzoo:my ntfs partition with xp isnt there too
[09:09] <Angel_Dex> eobanb Hum Boot a CD and replace the Xorg config?
[09:09] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, no
[09:09] <Angel_Dex> oks
[09:09] <B_Lizzard> Hello
[09:09] <Frogzoo> !tell amortvigil about fat32
[09:09] <CrippsFX> armedking, oh right ... heh ... sorry ... I didn't get the link to where it was ...
[09:09] <Scorpmoon> why did my monitor go black (not out of sync) when formatting starts?
[09:09] <B_Lizzard> I have a question to ask
[09:09] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, once you've put the new card in and X (i'm assuming) won't work, log in and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:10] <Scorpmoon> now its back
[09:10] <firebird> I have installed codecs from multiverse/universe and xine with synaptic, but xine doesn't seem to find them (can't handle xvid or even mp3). Sound files through XMMS/RythmBox work just fine. I checked that the codecs are installed in /usr/lib/codecs. Does anyone know what I could try to solve this? :)
[09:10] <armedking> CrippsFX: Here ya go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15563
[09:10] <_Mr_Denix_> hey ! can anyone tell me a chat client for linux compatible with yahoo that has webcam support please !
[09:10] <B_Lizzard> How can I stop a package from being displayed as "broken"?
[09:10] <eobanb> _Mr_Denix_, i'm not sure there are any that have webcam support
[09:10] <eobanb> _Mr_Denix_, with yahoo, anyway
[09:10] <_Mr_Denix_> eobanb thanks hope you are wrong :)) :P
[09:11] <Angel_Dex> eobanb Hmm Idk man I think im gonna update like you said tho so yeah id have to wait on that no?
[09:11] <CrippsFX> armedking, looks to be in order. what's not working with your 3d?
[09:11] <_Mr_Denix_> eobanb you know other ways to broadcast live image ? under ubuntu ?
[09:11] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, updating to dapper is what i'd recommend doing first
[09:11] <ic56> amortvigil: the latest version of diskmounter is at: http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt
[09:11] <eobanb> _Mr_Denix_, sure, there is a lot of webcam software out there
[09:11] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> hey
[09:11] <thoreauputic> typical, freddyubuntu left as I was about to answer him...
[09:11] <armedking> CrippsFX: I dont have direct rendering.
[09:12] <Angel_Dex> eobanb alright ill do that first
[09:12] <Frogzoo> firebird: have you installed totem-xine & the gstreamer..ugly ?
[09:12] <_Mr_Denix_> eobanb thank you :)
[09:12] <CrippsFX> armedking, have you installed fglrx ?
[09:12] <eobanb> !info webcam
[09:12] <ubotu> webcam: (capture and upload images), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 3.94-1.0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 112 kB
[09:12] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> who answer to me 2 minutes before?
[09:12] <eobanb> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[, would you mind changing your nick..
[09:12] <CarinArr> hey.. has the keyboard shortcuts for the x server changed lately? cause it seems shift+backspace now kills my xserver and i'm pretty sure it didn't use to (i've just managed to kill my xserver unintentionally 10 times in a few hours)
[09:12] <Frogzoo> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: scroll up & read it yourself maybe?
[09:12] <eobanb> KaM, that's much better
[09:13] <elephanthunter> Is there an way to reset the sound settings?
[09:13] <armedking> CrippsFX: Yes
[09:13] <KaM> Frogzoo: I've restart
[09:13] <firebird> Frogzoo: yes I have, I followed the instructions on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[09:13] <CrippsFX> damn no good f&**ing RAID ....
[09:13] <KaM> eobanb: :)
[09:13] <Frogzoo> firebird: & w32codecs ?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> ubotu answermachine is <reply> install mgetty-voice to enable a voice modem as an answering machine
[09:13] <ubotu> thoreauputic: okay
[09:13] <armedking> CrippsFX: Hold on a sec maby found something
[09:13] <assasukasse> hi all
[09:13] <CrippsFX> armedking, can you post me the link to your xorg.conf again?
[09:13] <CrippsFX> oh. k
[09:14] <KanRiNiN> Hey where do I get a list of those "!" commands?
[09:14] <ArthurBrazil> Is there a way to remove xfce from a xubuntu install and upgrade to ubuntu?
[09:14] <KaM> CrippsFX: I've follow this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:14] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[09:14] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:14] <assasukasse> what do you guys think of automatix?
[09:14] <cracker> is possible to install 32-bit packages on the 64-bit system?
[09:14] <eobanb> assasukasse, do NOT use automatix
[09:14] <jbroome> !automatix
[09:14] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[09:14] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:14] <wezzer> hey, is it good idea to have 2 different resolutions in 2 monitor setup with ati?
[09:14] <eXistenZ> what drive is usally the hdb1?
[09:14] <eobanb> assasukasse, try easyubuntu instead
[09:14] <eXistenZ> what drive is usally the hdb1?
[09:14] <eXistenZ> ops, sorry
[09:14] <CarinArr> and if noone knows if the x server keyboard shortcuts have changed, does anyone know how to change them manually? cause this is driving me insane
[09:14] <CrippsFX> KaM, good.
[09:14] <KaM> CrippsFX: but the result isn't like in the page
[09:14] <h3sp4wn> easyubuntu is worse than automatix
[09:14] <JPAULEY> Does anyone know how to get gd installed with gif support using these packages?
[09:14] <assasukasse> eobanb i use easyubuntu...i was just curious
[09:14] <CrippsFX> Kaja, what's the result?
[09:14] <KaM> CrippsFX: when i type fglrx...
[09:15] <chapium> is opera not in multiverse?
[09:15] <Kaja> O_O
[09:15] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: then tell us the prblems with easyubuntu
[09:15] <assasukasse> i have some video problem, i have an ati card and i am not accelerated..how can i fix it?
[09:15] <KaM> CrippsFX: root@notebook-fabrizio:/home/kamzata# fglrxinfo
[09:15] <KaM> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[09:15] <KaM> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[09:15] <KaM> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:15] <KaM> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[09:15] <firebird> Frogzoo: yes, installed w32codecs as well
[09:15] <eobanb> !paste
[09:15] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: please dont bring up pros and cons this is not the place for it
[09:15] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[09:15] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: don't say X is worser than Y
[09:15] <eobanb> !tell assasukasse about ati
[09:15] <CrippsFX> !tell KaM  about pastebin
[09:15] <KaM> sorry
[09:15] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: X is no more worser than Y
[09:15] <Frogzoo> firebird: & restarted totem?
[09:15] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: furthermore, that is flamebait
[09:16] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: that is all.
[09:16] <elephanthunter> Gah... so I suppose there's no way to reset the sound settings? o.o
[09:16] <cracker> can i install 32-packages (for example codecs) on 64-bit system?
[09:16] <KaM> CrippsFX: the output of my fglrx is different
[09:16] <firebird> Frogzoo: yes, but I haven't restarted my system yet. Maybe I should give that a try?
[09:16] <eobanb> cracker, yes, but it's not easy
[09:16] <CrippsFX> KaM, what is the output for glxinfo ?
[09:16] <firebird> though I don't see how it could help
[09:16] <gnomefreak> cracker: there is a 64bit codecs package iirc
[09:16] <Frogzoo> firebird: restarting gdm might be necessary, not sure
[09:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cracker -about w32codecs
[09:16] <Angel_Dex> eobanb Hey you think i should download a update CD switch cards then run the update CD?
[09:16] <firebird> ok :)
[09:16] <CrippsFX> KaM, i never used fglrxinfo or fglrxgears
[09:16] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, do you have broadband?
[09:16] <cracker> eobanb, and what it means?
[09:17] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: You didn't respond when I asked you about the reason why easyubuntu did no testing to see whether or not an ati card was suitable for installation with fglrx (you didn't spend however long I did fixing it)
[09:17] <armedking> CrippsFX: This is out of my xorg log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15564
[09:17] <Angel_Dex> eobanb yeah but Im lost as to the sequence i need to do here
[09:17] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, if you have the bandwidth, just run gksudo update-manager -d to update to dapper.
[09:17] <assasukasse> eobanb i don't have a 9200 i have a 7500 mobility so i should go for ati drivers right? are the ati drivers already in ubuntu?
[09:17] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:17] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: anything else?
[09:18] <eobanb> assasukasse, a 7500 is supported by the ati driver included with ubuntu
[09:18] <Scorpmoon> why cant I eject DVD's using my dvddrive in Ubuntu?
[09:18] <KaM> CrippsFX: http://rafb.net/paste/results/zT6dKj52.html
[09:18] <eobanb> Scorpmoon, have you tried right-clicking on the desktop icon and choosing Eject?
[09:18] <chris__> how do I change the file descriptor limit in dapper?
[09:18] <assasukasse> eobanb then i dunno why the video was shaky..maybe broken avi..
[09:18] <jammer> thoreauputic: I'd update my distro and install build-essential... now I'll to rebot my box ?
[09:18] <rigonatti> c
[09:18] <Scorpmoon> that ofcourse works
[09:18] <eobanb> assasukasse, that's not related to your 3D acceleration
[09:18] <ubuntu_user123> can someone help me (ubuntu newbie) with installation for Firefox plugins: Realplayer
[09:18] <rigonatti> can someone help me with GRUB ?
[09:19] <AlienX> my roommate deleted the panel at the top of the box I configured for him that says "applications, places, system, etc. is there a way to restore it so it looks exactly the same?
[09:19] <Scorpmoon> in windows I can just touch my dvd drive button though
[09:19] <thoreauputic> jammer: if you successfully installed it, no need to reboot
[09:19] <Angel_Dex> eobanb Ok man Im gonna update to 6.06 Right now befor i install any drivers or switch cards that sound good?
[09:19] <jammer> wow
[09:19] <AlienX> this is in gnome btw
[09:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ubuntu_user123 -about restricted
[09:19] <jammer> thanks
[09:19] <Frogzoo> AlienX: right click menu -> add applet .... (it's in there somewhere)
[09:19] <amortvigil> frogzoo: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[09:19] <amortvigil>  hoe must i change this to make it writable?
[09:19] <eobanb> Angel_Dex, sounds good.
[09:19] <armedking> CrippsFX: Hers xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15565
[09:19] <thoreauputic> jammer: unless you upgraded the whole thing or have a new kernel etc
[09:19] <AlienX> Frogzoo, ok, i'll check
[09:19] <lAN^pARTY> can anyone help me VMware on dapper
[09:19] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: the install is fairly cut and dry on realpplayer
[09:20] <Frogzoo> amortvigil: what's your uid?
[09:20] <Scorpmoon> Ubuntu installation complete... it asks me to remove the Live CD... so I did, and now it stalls (probably because it needs the CD)
[09:20] <rigonatti> can someone help me with GRUB ?
[09:20] <ubuntu_user123> gnomefreak ubotu I did take the initial steps successfully
[09:20] <Scorpmoon> I can't press restart
[09:20] <jammer> thoreauputic: but I've an X session active
[09:20] <eobanb> !tell ubuntu_user123 about restricted
[09:20] <amortvigil> my user is amortvigil
[09:20] <lonegeek> what is a good xvid enocoder for ubuntu? with a gui
[09:20] <thoreauputic> jammer: what does that have to do with it?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: if you did what the wiki said it is installed
[09:20] <ubuntu_user123> eobanb I referred to that
[09:20] <eobanb> ubuntu_user123, well what error message were you getting?
[09:20] <jammer> nothing
[09:20] <ubuntu_user123> the thing is I still cannot see online videos from CNN
[09:20] <thoreauputic> jammer: you only need to reboot for kernels or complete upgrades
[09:20] <jammer> ok
[09:20] <KaM> CrippsFX: are you there?
[09:21] <CrippsFX> armedking, try and make your xorg.conf look like this one: http://pastebin.ca/64485
[09:21] <CrippsFX> KaM, yes, just bisy
[09:21] <thoreauputic> jammer: as in, upgrades like breezy -> dapper
[09:21] <firebird> Frogzoo: no go :(. One of the errors I get is the following: "the stream '...' uses an unsupported codec: Audio Codec:MPEG layer 2/3 (0x55) Start playback anyway?"
[09:21] <KaM> CrippsFX: ok. Can I waiting for you answer?
[09:21] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: in not sure what cnn uses for thier video but i would recommend the gstreamer codecs and flash
[09:21] <McNutella> !.deb
[09:21] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, McNutella
[09:21] <ubuntu_user123> eobanb I installed REALPLAYER10GOLD, copied the files into mozilla plugin directoty
[09:21] <chespirito> how can i upgrade from breezy to dapper without having to download the CD?
[09:21] <CrippsFX> KaM, looks like you're having the same problem as armedking
[09:21] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell McNutella about deb
[09:21] <eobanb> ubuntu_user123, i thought cnn used windows media
[09:21] <McNutella> gnomefreak, hope it helps, thanks
[09:21] <amortvigil> my user is amortvigil
[09:21] <Frogzoo> firebird: this is on dapper?
[09:22] <eobanb> chespirito, just run gksudo update-manager -d
[09:22] <jammer> thoreauputic: I hope not... but for security.... what do you think about?
[09:22] <Frogzoo> amortvigil: uid
[09:22] <ArthurBrazil> Is there a way to remove xfce and upgrade to ubuntu? anyone?
[09:22] <ubuntu_user123> ok can you suggest some website that would use REALPLAYER
[09:22] <chespirito> eobanb, thank you
[09:22] <amortvigil> what is uid:$?
[09:22] <armedking> CrippsFX: Would it b safe to just take that config instead of editing mine?
[09:22] <firebird> Frogzoo: yes, this is on Dapper - fresh install
[09:22] <gnomefreak> McNutella: sudo dpkg -i file.deb to install a deb file
[09:22] <amortvigil> frogzoo: what is uid:$?
[09:22] <Frogzoo> amortvigil: type 'id' in a terminal
[09:22] <CrippsFX> I've gotta go now ... bedtime. I have to work in the morning. armedking , if that works for you, can you help out KaM ?
[09:22] <thoreauputic> jammer: not needed - this is linux not windows
[09:22] <jammer> buahahahaaha sure friend
[09:22] <lAN^pARTY> vmware anyone help please
[09:22] <jammer> :)
[09:22] <CrippsFX> armedking, should be ... but you won't like your X resolution ... I have a widescreen ;)
[09:22] <McNutella> gnomefreak, what about a rightclick the file, whats the default app ?
[09:22] <amortvigil> frogzoo: uid=0(root)
[09:22] <Fjodor> ArthurBrazil: I assume you installed xubuntu, and want gnome now, right?
[09:22] <KaM> armedking: can you help me please?
[09:22] <ArthurBrazil> fjellrev1, yes
[09:23] <armedking> CrippsFX: Tnx for letting me know haha
[09:23] <CrippsFX> ahh Fjodor , you showed up just in time for me to say farewell :)
[09:23] <CrippsFX> armedking, np. :)
[09:23] <gnomefreak> McNutella: in dapper there is gdebi but i try not to use it but should install it with lil to no issues
[09:23] <CrippsFX> ciao all!
[09:23] <Fjodor> CrippsFX: Ah, bummer.
[09:23] <thoreauputic> jammer: it's common for linux boxes to not be rebooted for months or even sometimes years
[09:23] <KaM> CrippsFX: bye tnks!
[09:23] <McNutella> gnomefreak, and lil is ?
[09:23] <ubuntu_user123> eobanb gnomefreak: I visited websites mentioned at http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMozillaConfiguration.html
[09:23] <armedking> KaM: I'm trying to get mine working as we speak when it works i'll contact you
[09:23] <gnomefreak> McNutella: lil= littl
[09:23] <gnomefreak> ee
[09:23] <amortvigil> frogzoo: gid and groups is the same
[09:23] <ubuntu_user123> the REal player applet did work fine
[09:23] <Fjodor> Arafangion: basically, you just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <McNutella> gnomefreak, and littl is ? :)
[09:23] <jammer> thoreauputic: I know.... :)
[09:23] <Fjodor> ArthurBrazil: basically, you just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <gnomefreak> umclittle
[09:23] <KaM> armedking: ok, I'm waiting for you
[09:24] <gnomefreak> McNutella: little
[09:24] <Fjodor> Arafangion: Sorry, not for you
[09:24] <Frogzoo> amortvigil: well don't run as root - login as a user, uid for first user is usually 1000
[09:24] <McNutella> gnomefreak, come on, your mushing my mind up here LOL
[09:24] <jammer> thoreauputic: Sorry for another question... I want to install a Streaming Server on 6.06 what do you suggest me?
[09:24] <Frogzoo> amortvigil: you want to change that fstab line to something like "/dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,uid=1000 0 0"
[09:24] <jikbag> i was the annoying guy w/ a digital camera question a minute ago.  if anyone cares, the problems seems to have been that my user privleges got fuxored when i upgraded to dapper so it wouldnt let me download media from usb devices.
[09:24] <KaM> armedking: please if I'm not reachable at the moment send me and email please: kamzata@alice.it
[09:24] <Bassetts> is it possible to make wget retreive a file, then start again when its downloaded?
[09:24] <amortvigil> frogzoo: uid=1000(amortvigil) gid=1000(amortvigil) groepen=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(amortvigil)
[09:24] <Ironhand> can someone tell me how ubuntu determines whether a user should have the full set of options in the system -> administration menu, or just a select few?
[09:25] <armedking> KaM: I'll do
[09:25] <Ironhand> (the user created during setup has the full set, but new users don't, even if they have sudo rights)
[09:25] <KaM> armedking: I'm going to dinner :)
[09:25] <ArthurBrazil> fjellrev1, do you know how i could remove the xfce package?
[09:25] <armedking> KaM: You had problems with 3d too right?
[09:25] <Frogzoo> firebird: so you have installed all of: totem-xine libxine-extracodecs gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly       try dpkg -l on them
[09:25] <SonicChao> Iron: You need more than one user?
[09:26] <Bassetts> is it possible to make wget retreive a file, then start again when its downloaded?
[09:26] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: wget does this automatically
[09:26] <KaM> armedking: I'm not sure, I don't know if i've driver ati correct installed and I don't know how to enable 3d
[09:26] <ubuntu_user123> WHICH PLUGIN FOR FIREFOX TO WATCH ONLINE VIDEOS ?
[09:26] <Bassetts> Frogzoo, does it?
[09:26] <jammer> ubuntu_user123: I think VLC
[09:26] <AlienX> ubuntu_user123, you're not going to get any help if you type in caps
[09:26] <Bassetts> it doesnt for me Frogzoo
[09:27] <Ironhand> SonicChao: yes, this is a multi-user environment
[09:27] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: I think so...
[09:27] <billytwowilly> ubuntu_user123: careful, you might get yourself kicked.... try flash for google video and youtube
[09:27] <Bassetts> i want it to get say msn.com/file.filetype
[09:27] <ubuntu_user123> jammer VLC will suppoirt which websites?
[09:27] <Bassetts> then get it again
[09:27] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: cnn uses windows media player   windows media player is not in linux
[09:27] <Bassetts> and again and again... etc
[09:27] <SonicChao> Ironhand: And you'd like everyone to have equal rights? ;) No, im just kidding, youre going to have to ask someone else sorry
[09:27] <Fjodor> ArthurBrazil: I am not entirely sure, but I think you could do something with aptitude. You wiall have to ask someone else, though
[09:27] <ubuntu_user123> gnomefreak which websites used by Linux community to watch online videos
[09:27] <eobanb> gnomefreak, that doesnt mean he still cant watch it...
[09:28] <eobanb> ubuntu_user123, if you install w32codecs cnn should work
[09:28] <freddyubuntu> is there any graphical answering phone machine in Synpatic package manager to install ?
[09:28] <freddyubuntu> or do you offer any good program ?
[09:28] <gnomefreak> eobanb: he might need the w32codecs but seeing as i have them and it wont play here thats not the issue
[09:28] <blanky> !mountwindows
[09:28] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:28] <jammer> Sorry guys  I need to have a streaming server on my 6.06... for about 10 contemporaneous video streams what do you suggest me?
[09:28] <Fjodor> ArthurBrazil: And, btw., your tab-completion gets you fjellrev1, not me, so I might miss your messages... Xchat tab completion isn't the best
[09:28] <amortvigil> frogzoo: i changed it with your line but nothing changed
[09:28] <sphivo> Bassetts: Try something like: while :; do wget whatever; done;
[09:28] <xonic> help installing flash for firefox
[09:29] <firebird> Frogzoo: the libxine-extracodecs package was not installed and seems to have solved the problem entirely. Thanks a lot for your help! :)
[09:29] <Frogzoo> amortvigil: reboot
[09:29] <jago25_98> How do I fill with transparency? in gimp?
[09:29] <ubuntu_user123> ok eobanb will CNN work with REalplayer & win32codecs
[09:29] <blanky> !tell xonic about flash
[09:29] <eobanb> fair enough, gnomefreak, but when you say, "cnn uses windows media player   windows media player is not in linux" ...that makes it sound like there's now way to get it to work
[09:29] <Frogzoo> firebird: yw, enjoy
[09:29] <Fjodor> ArthurBrazil: Better do Fjo<tab>
[09:29] <sphivo> Bassetts: And throw in a sleep for good measure
[09:29] <Bassetts> sphivo, i dont get you
[09:29] <amortvigil> bye
[09:29] <ArthurBrazil> Fjodor,  there we go
[09:29] <ArthurBrazil> Fjodor,  thanks for the help
[09:29] <gnomefreak> eobanb: i havent found a solution to it yet ive been working on it for a few weeks
[09:29] <Bassetts> dont suppose theres any good email bombers that run in linux =P
[09:29] <_sebastian> Hi people I have recently upgraded from Breezy to Dapper.  on my PC.  I had problems with broken dependencies, but fixed that.  got some error messages on boot up, but other than that no problems.  my XP is also screwed up Blue Screen of Death when playing my game or about to.  both OS's have quite a lot of programs on them that I don't use.  I got my XP hard disk and Linux hard disk.  however I want as much space as possi
[09:29] <_sebastian> then installing XP maybe inside it for my game.
[09:29] <Bassetts> i have an enemy
[09:29] <Fjodor> ArthurBrazil: No problem. Glad to help, and enjoy :-)
[09:29] <eobanb> ubuntu_user123, i dont know
[09:29] <RedHairedMan> hello there.  Can someone tell me how to get Ubuntu Live to use Vesa?  Safe-mode didn't work
[09:30] <eobanb> RedHairedMan, well what graphics card is it
[09:30] <theplateau> when i try to access smb shares on my linux box from win2k3 im having some problems can anyone help
[09:30] <gnomefreak> eobanb: the site is searching for windows media player if it doesnt find it it wont play
[09:30] <RedHairedMan> ATI Radeon x800
[09:30] <freddyubuntu> is there any graphical answering phone machine in Synpatic package manager to install ?
[09:30] <eobanb> _sebastian, i'm not sure what your question is........
[09:30] <ubuntu_user123> eobanb, which websites to watch online news in linux
[09:30] <ubuntu_user123> gnomefreak, which websites to watch online news in linux
[09:31] <_sebastian> however  I have Apache,  MySQL, and PHP set up from Breezy.  and can I save my settings so I don't have to set up again?
[09:31] <eobanb> ubuntu_user123, i dont know, cbsnews? bbc?
[09:31] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: eobanb give me a few mins lets see what i come up with might beable to point another player at it and force it to use it but not likely
[09:31] <_sebastian> when re installing Ubuntu
[09:31] <AlienX> ubuntu_user123, online news? like where?
[09:31] <jonah> hi guys, i used automatix to install BUM (boot up manager), now my computer doesn't have a pcmcia slot but every boot i get a pcmcia failed, can i take it out of the start up and any other pointless stuff to speed up boot time? and why won't the advanced option in BUM let me change anything even as SU?
[09:31] <freddyubuntu> is there any graphical answering phone machine in Synpatic package manager to install ?
[09:31] <eobanb> jonah, ask in #automatix.
[09:31] <jammer> Sorry guys  I need to have a streaming server on my 6.06... for about 10 contemporaneous video streams what do you suggest me?
[09:31] <AngryElf> is it just me, or does xine-ui suck a whole lot?
[09:31] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: wine+windowsmedia player might work
[09:31] <eobanb> jonah, if you use automatix, stuff can break.  we don't recommend using it.
[09:32] <freddyubuntu> BYE
[09:32] <freddyubuntu> FUCK UBUNTU
[09:32] <chapium> hi, i just installed the msttcorefonts, but none of them are showing up in firefox or openoffice.  How do I make this so?
[09:32] <eobanb> !patience
[09:32] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[09:32] <[SonicChao] > Oh my god
[09:32] <tty5> ah
[09:32] <tty5> i need help
[09:32] <[SonicChao] > Good....
[09:32] <chapium> !helpme
[09:32] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[09:32] <RedHairedMan> eobanb: do you have any idea on how to get Ubuntu to boot with my X800 video card?
[09:32] <amortvigil> frogzoo:thanx man frogzoo!!
[09:32] <tty5> how do i mount windows partitions (NTFS), and allow all users to read/write permission?
[09:32] <eobanb> RedHairedMan, sure, ati's proprietary drivers should work
[09:32] <ubuntu_user123> I have been installing one thing after another since last few days and have got nothing working
[09:32] <eobanb> !tell RedHairedMan about ati
[09:33] <jammer> !tell jammer about streaming
[09:33] <RedHairedMan> except that I can't even install Ubuntu because the CD won't boot at all
[09:33] <chapium> tty5: I believe you can set it to readonly, but not write
[09:33] <Frogzoo> amortvigil: yw
[09:33] <amortvigil> 1 last question how do i make an recoveryboot for if i mess up in the future ?
[09:33] <jammer> !tell jammer about stream server
[09:33] <AngryElf> tty5, last i heard ntfs are unstable and therefore it's best not to write to it
[09:33] <jammer> !tell jammer about  ffserver
[09:33] <eobanb> RedHairedMan, you might try the alternate install CD, which has a text installer isntead
[09:33] <Ayabara> !restricted
[09:33] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:33] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: you can install every package in ubuntu but to get it to work you need to know the basics of how things work
[09:33] <AngryElf> !ntfs
[09:33] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[09:33] <RedHairedMan> alright, guess I'll give that a go
[09:34] <ryanakca> is pastebin.com down?
[09:34] <ubuntu_user123> gnomefreak I have been doing lot of reading before installing
[09:34] <tty5> so that mean im doomed
[09:34] <amortvigil> frogzoo: 1 last question how do i make an recoveryboot for if i mess up in the future ?
[09:34] <tty5> ;/
[09:34] <eobanb> ryanakca, there are lots of pastebin sites
[09:34] <chapium> tty5: fat is ok for writing
[09:34] <ubuntu_user123> gnomefreak can someone please help me even with listening online music
[09:34] <caravena> Hello, How to run btdownloadhead with crontab? I run -> "* * * * *  nohup btdownloadheadless /PATH/File.torrent" and pc/cron send message-> "Error opening terminal: unknown."
[09:34] <chapium> tty5: there is also a driver for reading ext3 in windows
[09:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: i dont watch new online
[09:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: what type of file?
[09:35] <eobanb> amortvigil, that functionality is more or less built into ubuntu...the recovery console option from grub
[09:35] <RedHairedMan> eobanb: one last question, if Vesa drivers work after I install, is safe-graphics mode the only way now to get the live-cd to load vesa?
[09:35] <AngryElf> tty5, i doubt that, there's probably 10 other solutions for whatever you're trying to do
[09:35] <Frogzoo> amortvigil: just boot a live cd
[09:35] <jugheadtn> chapium, I have heard of that on here once, but I neer looked into it
[09:35] <lonegeek> whats a vnc program ?
[09:35] <ubuntu_user123> gnomefreak,I have Yahoo subcription can I listen to its muci online
[09:35] <eobanb> !tell lonegeek about vnc
[09:35] <lAN^pARTY> vmware can anyone help me please
[09:35] <eobanb> RedHairedMan, i'm not sure
[09:36] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: i dont know what file system they use
[09:36] <Jinkguns> Is a Ekiga pc to pc call limited to 2 minutes or something?
[09:36] <lonegeek> well i know what it is...i should say whats an easy to use one..that has a gui to load up server in
[09:36] <eobanb> RedHairedMan, after you install, you'll want to use ati's drivers
[09:36] <Frogzoo> !tell chapium about winext
[09:36] <lonegeek> like realvnc for windows
[09:36] <RedHairedMan> eobanb: righto, thanks
[09:36] <ArthurBrazil> I have a question: I got ubuntu up and running but it does not have my desired resolution listed under Screen resolution questions
[09:36] <eobanb> Jinkguns, i dont think so..
[09:36] <tty5> my winxp crashed,it wont boot during startup..so i try to recover some files using ubuntu livecd..
[09:36] <eobanb> ArthurBrazil, what graphics card do you have
[09:36] <ArthurBrazil> nvidia 5200
[09:36] <eobanb> !tell ArthurBrazil about nvidia
[09:37] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: install totem-xine see if it will play the yahoo music
[09:37] <gnomefreak> that or mplayer normally play most things
[09:37] <ubuntu_user123> ok I am going with mplayer
[09:37] <ubuntu_user123> let me see if that solved some problems
[09:38] <jammer> Sorry guys  I'm looking for a streaming server on my 6.06... for about 10 contemporaneous video streams what do you suggest me?
[09:38] <jugheadtn> should I download and configure the ati drivers from their website?
[09:38] <eobanb> jammer, perhaps darwin streaming server?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_user123: i would install the gstreamer codecs and the w32codecs also just in case
[09:38] <eobanb> jammer, VLC will also stream stuff
[09:38] <gnomefreak> im still working on the cnn video but i think its wmv format
[09:38] <Xenguy> xubuntu question: I just upgraded breezy to dapper, and the Panel and Taskbar went missing.  I've mostly rebuilt the Panel (bottom of screen), but the Taskbar (top of screen) is missing altogether.  Does anyone know how I can get that back?
[09:38] <jammer> eobanb: where I can find it?
[09:39] <eobanb> ask in #xubuntu, Xenguy
[09:39] <gnomefreak> Xenguy: try killall gnome-panel  (that should refrsh it
[09:39] <gnomefreak> nooooooo
[09:39] <eobanb> jammer, darwin streaming server is available from apple, and as far as i know VLC comes with ubuntu, if not it's in the repository
[09:39] <gnomefreak> nm xubuntu not sure i would see if reboot fixes that
[09:39] <jonah> sorry it wasn't really a question to do with automatix, i just wondered how to change startup scripts from BUM
[09:39] <amortvigil> ok
[09:39] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: reboot didn't work
[09:39] <spadilla> hi all
[09:40] <spadilla> how are you
[09:40] <eobanb> welcome, spadilla
[09:40] <Xenguy> eobanb: I'll try that then (later probably, as I have to leave soon)
[09:40] <Bassetts> how would i make a .sh to loop a command?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> Xenguy: i would try #xubuntu  i have it its been days since i looked at it
[09:40] <spadilla> i'm so tired with the xgl an my tv card
[09:40] <matt0440> are there any good games for linux????
[09:40] <caravena> Hello, How to run btdownloadheadless with crontab? I run -> "0 0 * * *  nohup btdownloadheadless /PATH/File.torrent" and pc/cron send message-> "Error opening terminal: unknown."
[09:40] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: tx
[09:40] <spadilla> they are not run fine
[09:40] <eobanb> matt0440, sure there are :D
[09:40] <ubuntu_user123> join #mozilla
[09:41] <spadilla> hi
[09:41] <spadilla> anybody here?
[09:41] <matt0440> eobanb: could you like name one or something?
[09:41] <jammer> eobanb: I've an i386 build............... and VLC is Strange for my cpu ... 35% for each stream
[09:41] <dooglus> I was playing a game, full screen, when it crashed.  The desktop came back, but the mouse won't move now.  Is there some way of 'waking it up'?
[09:41] <KenSentMe> matt0440: try Enemy territory, a fps that runs on linux and windows
[09:41] <RedHairedMan> okay, I'm an idiot, it isn't the graphcs driver, ubuntu is locking up on the 'load manual drivers' step
[09:41] <Frogzoo> dooglus: if it's usb - unplug/replug
[09:41] <RedHairedMan> anyone else had that happen?
[09:41] <danfg> wow, font smoothing looks so much better without stupid hinting, what is this hinting anyway?
[09:42] <dooglus> Frogzoo: it's a laptop's built-in touchpad in fact
[09:42] <eobanb> matt0440, alpha centauri, tribes 2, castle wolfenstien, neverwinter nights, all the unreal games, quake games, civilization call to power, sim city 3000...
[09:42] <eobanb> ...those all have linux ports
[09:42] <eobanb> matt0440, you can also run games like starcraft quite well under wine.
[09:42] <matt0440> eobang: where can i find them?
[09:42] <eobanb> matt0440, well a lot of those are commercial games.
[09:42] <eobanb> matt0440, i assume you meant *free* games :P
[09:43] <lyncoln> hi
[09:43] <ArthurBrazil> eobanb, thanks for the help man
[09:43] <eobanb> matt0440, a lot of people that ask about linux games are really asking about running their favourite windows games on linux..
[09:43] <matt0440> you cand run windows games on linux tho
[09:43] <Frogzoo> !tell matt0440 about appdb
[09:43] <eobanb> matt0440, yes, you can (sometimes)
[09:43] <eobanb> !tell matt0440 about wine
[09:43] <jammer> !tell jammer about darwin
[09:43] <RedHairedMan> what happens during the 'loading manual drivers' step of booting?
[09:44] <xonic> is anyone here familiar with compiz and xgl?
[09:44] <eobanb> ask in #ubuntu-xgl, xonic
[09:45] <matt0440> eobanb: could i like run halo demo on linuc?
[09:45] <eobanb> matt0440, i dont know, check wine's app database
[09:45] <matt0440> linux*
[09:45] <matt0440> k
[09:45] <Frogzoo> !appdb
[09:45] <ubotu> Appdb is a database for tracking issues specific to running an application under Wine. See http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:45] <chapium> is there a way to set up a pdf printer?
[09:46] <jonah> #join
[09:46] <chapium> for example, i wish to have  a printer that exports what I'm printing to a pdf file
[09:46] <joko> Hi... Could anyone help me with network-manager? I can't find my wireless card although there is in Windows Wireless Drives
[09:46] <eobanb> chapium, yes, you can do that, although i'm not sure how
[09:46] <RedHairedMan> eobanb: sorry to bother you again, but I was wrong, it's the "loading manual drivers" step of booting that locks up the boot.  I looked for the text mode install CD as well and only found one for server.
[09:47] <eobanb> RedHairedMan, i assure you, there's an alternate install CD
[09:47] <eobanb> look
[09:47] <eobanb> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[09:47] <eobanb> scroll down
[09:47] <ubuntu> hi, i need help for burning a project with k3b on ubuntu live with a kombi cd-rw/dvd. can anybody help me?
[09:47] <chapium> eobanb, I think I found it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/software/cups-pdf?highlight=%28pdf%29
[09:47] <eka> hi all
[09:47] <eobanb> welcome, eka
[09:48] <eobanb> indeed, chapium
[09:48] <eka> i just upgraded to dapper , and cannot make my nvidia drivers to work
[09:48] <RedHairedMan> eobanb: ah, okay, and that's not a stripped down version?
[09:48] <Frogzoo> ubuntu: do you have one burner + one cd reader?
[09:48] <eobanb> eka, are you getting a certain error message?
[09:48] <eobanb> RedHairedMan, no, you can install the full ubuntu system with it.
[09:48] <eobanb> RedHairedMan, if that doesnt work, you always have the option of downloading the 5.10 install disc and then just updating
[09:49] <eka> eobanb, let me chack
[09:49] <ubuntu> hi frogzoo! thanks for helping. no, only one in all burner :(
[09:49] <RedHairedMan> eobanb: great, thanks.  :)
[09:49] <eka> check
[09:49] <RedHairedMan> eobanb: yeah, except the 5.10 also locked up on booting into Live, which was part of the reason I got it
[09:49] <}btorch{> do i need a special version of ubuntu 10.1 to install it as domU of a xen system
[09:49] <koharski> sorry to be another one of those people, but I have a black 30gb HD formatted in EXT3, and my 10gb drive with my / partition on it. How can I copy everything from my 10gb drive to the 30gb drive, including MBR
[09:49] <eobanb> }btorch{, '10.1'?
[09:50] <}btorch{> the lastest ubuntu
[09:50] <eobanb> the latest is 6.06
[09:50] <Frogzoo> ubuntu: you can't remove the live cd while you're running it, so this can't be done
[09:50] <}btorch{> what is it 10.0.1
[09:50] <eobanb> i dont know, you tell me....
[09:50] <ubuntu> :( i think so, too.
[09:50] <Ayabara> I get an error message when I follow the "restricted formats" help. E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll. Any ideas?
[09:50] <}btorch{> the cd my friend gave has 10.1 written on it
[09:51] <eobanb> }btorch{, maybe read what i just said? the latest version is 6.06
[09:51] <koharski> my 10gb HD has only one partition, and I need it copied to my 30gb drive. The MBR included
[09:52] <samuli> Ayabara: pitfdll?
[09:52] <samuli> wtf.
[09:52] <SurfnKid> Guys how can I make my laptop an Ad-Hoc?
[09:52] <SurfnKid> so another machine can use as a router
[09:52] <samuli> they should be 0-10-good, -bad and -ugly
[09:52] <Frogzoo> Ayabara: methinks typo dude
[09:52] <eobanb> SurfnKid, that's not what ad-hoc is for
[09:52] <eobanb> SurfnKid, don't you mean a client
[09:52] <Ayabara> samuli: says pitfdll in the wiki
[09:52] <SurfnKid> eobanb, right im just desperate
[09:53] <eobanb> SurfnKid, can you rephrase what you're trying to do
[09:53] <SurfnKid> eobanb, yeah i want to see if i can go thru my Dell so I can do apt-get update on the Vaio
[09:53] <eobanb> and also tell us what wireless card you have and what error messages you're getting
[09:53] <nickrud> samuli, Ayabara: pitdfll is a tool for using the w32codecs with gstreamer, it's in multiverse
[09:53] <samuli> Ayabara, well perhaps you don't have the right repos.
[09:53] <}btorch{> hehe i meant 5.10
[09:53] <eobanb> SurfnKid, so basically you want to set up your Dell as a wireless router
[09:53] <}btorch{> sorry
[09:53] <Ayabara> if I enable multiverse in synaptic it should be enable when I use apt too?
[09:53] <tim_> Greetings all
[09:54] <eobanb> welcome, tim_
[09:54] <SurfnKid> eobanb,  yeah itll route thru eth0 directly to the modem
[09:54] <eobanb> Ayabara, yes, apt and synaptic are essentially the same thing
[09:54] <eobanb> SurfnKid, ..modem?
[09:54] <SurfnKid> eobanb, cable modem
[09:54] <DaGr8Tim> Does anyone know about changing your screen res?  I've been searching through the forums and nothing there seems to work
[09:54] <eobanb> SurfnKid, and you said wireless is involved in this somehow? i'm sorry but i still dont understand your setup
[09:54] <Frogsnooze> !tell DaGr8Tim about fixres
[09:54] <nickrud> !tell DaGr8Tim about fixres
[09:54] <xonic> does anyone know how to undo changes if your xserver gets messed up?
[09:55] <vio> whenever i quit an opengl game (e.g. quake) the desktop switches to the resolution the game had: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15566
[09:55] <vio> with this error
[09:55] <vio> anyone got a clue?
[09:55] <eobanb> xonic, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:55] <nickrud> xonic, if you used the dpkg-reconfigure tool, there should be a backup in /etc/X11
[09:55] <dooglus> I was playing a game, full screen, when it crashed.  The desktop came back, but the mouse won't move now.  Is there some way of 'waking it up'?  I can make a new login with 'gdmflexiserver', and it's OK there, but my apps are in the old login still.
[09:55] <Ayabara> eobanb: ok. I enabled all the unchecked repositories in synaptic. do I have to add external ones too?
[09:55] <Mazin> somebody help... Ubuntu won't boot anymore - it gets stuck after the first list of boot tasks
[09:55] <eobanb> Ayabara, for what?
[09:55] <Mazin> somewhere around running rc.local
[09:55] <SurfnKid> eobanb,  you had it right, I have a Vaio and I cant get apt-update to resolve correctly, so I thought I could use my Dell as a wireless router.
[09:55] <eka> eobanb, dont know
[09:56] <eobanb> SurfnKid, so the vaio has no wired ethernet?
[09:56] <Ayabara> eobanb: got an error "E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll" installing restricted formats
[09:56] <SurfnKid> eobanb, none :(
[09:56] <Mazin> i can't boot after i installed a new gfx card
[09:56] <eobanb> Ayabara, try a sudo apt-get update ?
[09:56] <Mazin> and i can't figure out why
[09:56] <eka> eobanb, where to look?
[09:56] <xonic> eobanb, that requires you to edit it
[09:56] <xonic> i don't know how to
[09:56] <oni-dracula> does anyone have a copy of cedega in .deb format?
[09:56] <SurfnKid> eobanb,  usb WUSB12v1 Linksys Adapter, which I barely got running, I can chat, browse, everything, ping and resolve to anything else but apt-get
[09:56] <Mazin> i don't think it's my Xorg.conf
[09:56] <Scorpmoon> how do I insert the current date into terminal
[09:56] <js_> oni-dracula: www.transgaming.com
[09:56] <eobanb> uhm, eka, what's your problem again?
[09:57] <nickrud> Scorpmoon, date
[09:57] <oni-dracula> js_, I don't feel like dropping $15 again because they won't let me re-download
[09:57] <eobanb> xonic, but not manually
[09:57] <js_> oni-dracula: contact them
[09:57] <eka> eobanb, i just upgraded to dapper and cant  make nvidia drivers to work ..
[09:57] <xonic> hmm
[09:57] <SurfnKid> eobanb, ive even gone so far as to change the us.archive.ubuntu.com names to IP's and it still fails to connect, its dam weird
[09:57] <oni-dracula> hmm
[09:57] <}btorch{> anyway do I need anything special to be able to have ubuntu working as a xen guest os ?
[09:57] <oni-dracula> maybe
[09:57] <eobanb> SurfnKid, ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:57] <Scorpmoon> nickrud, no I need to cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /var/backups/xorg_(currentdate).conf
[09:57] <Mazin> how do I manually start X and kdm from a text terminal?
[09:57] <leonardoo> j'adore la technologie :D
[09:57] <Scorpmoon> how do I write that currentdate using a keypress
[09:57] <eobanb> !fr
[09:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:58] <SurfnKid> eobanb, that works
[09:58] <}btorch{> Mazin startx
[09:58] <nickrud> xonic, if you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg it will rebuild a default xorg without asking questions.
[09:58] <eobanb> Mazin, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[09:58] <Mazin> so just typing X won't work?
[09:58] <Scorpmoon> ok thanks
[09:58] <Mazin> it dies with "no screens"
[09:58] <Bassetts> how can i change the ip of my usb cable modem?
[09:58] <xonic> oh ok ill keep that written down then
[09:58] <Ayabara> eobanb: didn't help :-(
[09:58] <ubuntu> Does anyone know how to resolve the installation issue on Dapper whereby from a dist-upgrade, Live CD Install or alternate cd install it all results in a 'successful installation' and then on boot ends up saying 'Alert! /dev/hda1 not found' ?
[09:58] <eobanb> Mazin, in that case you have a problem with your xorg config
[09:58] <nickrud> Scorpmoon, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /var/backups/xorg_`date`.conf , that will insert the default date format into the filename; man date tells a lot about formatting the date if you like
[09:59] <Mazin> eobanb, well, it normally does that when i boot failsafe
[09:59] <eobanb> Ayabara, are you positive that universe and multiverse are enabled
[09:59] <Scorpmoon> ok
[09:59] <ProN00b> how can i enable spellcheck for my language in openoffice ?
[09:59] <SurfnKid_> eobanb: on the Vaio here
[09:59] <eobanb> Ayabara, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, if you dont mind
[09:59] <Mazin> eobanb: but booting regularly it's usually okay
[09:59] <Mazin> until now
[09:59] <Ayabara> eobanb: just a sec
[09:59] <eobanb> Mazin, the failsafe console isnt designed to start X
[10:00] <Ayabara> !pastebin
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[10:00] <eobanb> SurfnKid, does synaptic have the same problem apt-get does
[10:00] <ProN00b> how can i enable spellcheck for my language in openoffice ?
[10:00] <Ohzie> What's the program that opens the run dialogue for gnome?
[10:00] <Ohzie> When you hit alt+F2, I mean.
[10:00] <eobanb> ProN00b, what language?
[10:01] <ProN00b> eobanb, german
[10:01] <eobanb> you might try also asking in #ubuntu-de, ProN00b
[10:01] <matt0440> I need to move a file into a fold and wont let me how can i move it fom my desktop to a folder??
[10:01] <Ayabara> eobanb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15567
[10:01] <eobanb> matt0440, what folder
[10:01] <eka> eobanb, also when i try to run synaptic from app launche i wnter the pass and says incorrect passw but from console it works any clue?
[10:01] <nickrud> ProN00b, do you have the german language pack installed?
[10:01] <eobanb> eka, i have no idea why that would be.
[10:02] <matt0440> i edited the sources.list and saved to desktop and need to move it
[10:02] <wolfeySI> damn does anyone here uses bind9 ? basicly same setting works on my gentoo, but not on ubuntu server
[10:02] <wolfeySI> :P
[10:02] <wolfeySI> and stupid bind9 doesnt even show any error messages
[10:02] <wolfeySI> it just doesnt start
[10:02] <amortvigil> how do i install a theme?
[10:02] <eka> eobanb, if i do modprobe nvidia it says not found
[10:02] <matt0440> eobanb: how can i like overide the permissions thing?
[10:02] <Bassetts> how can i change the ip of my usb cable modem?
[10:02] <ProN00b> nickrud, no, i don't want to have my system translated in any way
[10:02] <eobanb> Ayabara, you dont have multiverse enabled
[10:03] <eobanb> Ayabara, you only have multiverse enabled for dapper-backports
[10:03] <Ayabara> eobanb: hmm. rookie mistake... I enabled all I could in synaptic. guess I should read the wiki better..
[10:03] <matt0440> how can i get permissions to write to a folder?
[10:03] <eobanb> on line 17, where it says 'deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe', you need to add the word 'multiverse' at the end
[10:04] <Ayabara> eobanb: ok. thanks!
[10:04] <eobanb> matt0440, just edit the original
[10:04] <nickrud> ProN00b, install myspell-de- at, ch, or de
[10:04] <eobanb> matt0440, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:04] <amortvigil> how do i install a gnome theme?
[10:04] <eobanb> amortvigil, read all about customising gnome on http://gnome-look.org
[10:04] <matt0440> eobanb: i already deleted that one and saved it to my desktop
[10:04] <chapium> argh, pdf printing is a bit difficult.  Mainly because it wont print, but does not produce errors
[10:05] <MrMaDSeN> hellow
[10:05] <eobanb> matt0440,  ..??
[10:05] <eobanb> welcome, MrMaDSeN
[10:05] <noobuntu> hi, i have a problem, i need the linux kernel 2.6.15-22-686, has anyone a suggestion from where to get it?
[10:05] <Frogsnooze> !tell amortvigil about themes
[10:05] <wolfeySI> amortvigil: open gnome theme manager.. go to art.gnome.org page, drag and drop theme to gnome theme manager
[10:05] <MrMaDSeN> why cant i open openoffice after upgrading to 6,06????
[10:05] <eobanb> matt0440, sudo mv ~/Desktop/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:05] <nickrud> ProN00b, you may, after installing myspell, go to Tools-Option-Languages in open office to enable it.
[10:05] <matt0440> thx
[10:06] <eobanb> MrMaDSeN, i dont know, try running it from the command line and see if any error messages appear
[10:06] <nickrud> s/may/may need to/
[10:06] <Frogsnooze> noobuntu: 2.6.15-23-686 any good?
[10:06] <ProN00b> nickrud, how do i install myspell ?
[10:06] <eobanb> noobuntu, check the repository?
[10:06] <MrMaDSeN> neither of my openoffice tools will start in dapper
[10:06] <eobanb> MrMaDSeN, did you do what i said?
[10:06] <noobuntu> Frogsnooze: no i have problems with my lan-adapter
[10:07] <ArthurBrazil> Quick wuestion: How would i go about burning an ubuntu cd from ubuntu?
[10:07] <chapium> ArthurBrazil: nautilus has a cd burning option
[10:07] <xonic> how do you back up your .list file? i htink its hte source one
[10:07] <chapium> ArthurBrazil: right click the iso
[10:07] <noobuntu> eobanb: there i find only the 15-22 kernel
[10:07] <eobanb> MrMaDSeN, just open a terminal and type 'openoffice' with no quotes, and pastebin any error messages
[10:07] <MrMaDSeN> eobanb: I get API error
[10:08] <nickrud> ProN00b, for german german, use synaptic to install myspell-de-de
[10:08] <xonic> how do you back up your sources.list file?
[10:08] <eobanb> MrMaDSeN, you'll have to be way more specific
[10:08] <eobanb> xonic, you copy it somewhere else on your hard drive...???
[10:08] <xonic> lol, true
[10:08] <rizzo> What are the fundamental differences in the kernel installed during 'server' mode versus 'desktop' mode?
[10:08] <eobanb> rizzo, at the kernel level, i dont think there are any differences.
[10:08] <MrMaDSeN> unknow error forking main binary / abnormal early exit
[10:09] <MrMaDSeN> hmm
[10:09] <xonic> where is located?
[10:09] <eobanb> xonic, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:09] <crimsun_> rizzo: i/o elevator (deadline, not anticipatory), preempt disabled, higher memory support
[10:09] <wolfeySI> does ANYone here uses bind9 ?
[10:09] <eobanb> noobuntu, i thought that's what you needed
[10:09] <esher> hi
[10:09] <eobanb> welcome, esher
[10:10] <esher> i cannot update with gksudo to 6.06 testing
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[10:10] <esher> "could not calculate the update"
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[10:10] <eobanb> idiot...
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[10:10] <Viking> can anyone help me to install java?
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[10:10] <eobanb> !ops
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[10:10] <nickrud> who's feeling frisky
[10:10] <zero> my Huntwork
[10:10] <anfangs> my pcmcia nic (np100 using the axnet_cs module) is automatically recognized and set up in DSL, yet other distros wont detect it as a NIC.... anyone know why that might be?
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[10:10] <Viking> can anyone help me to install java?
[10:11] <wiseelben> Hi, does anyone have any ideas why my internet speed is slower (or at least seems like it) on Ubuntu than WinXP?
[10:11] <Amaranth> !java
[10:11] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[10:11] <chapium> i need someone to translate this for me:   Starting with version 1.2.0 CUPS implements the "RunAsOption" no longer. In order to ensure CUPS-PDF is running with the required root privileges you have to make 'root' the owner of the cups-pdf backend and set the file permissions of the backend to 0700 (root only).
[10:11] <noobuntu> still, nobody has a suggestion from where to get the 2.6.15-22-686-kernel?
[10:11] <Frogsnooze> Viking: read the wiki
[10:11] <Seveas> noobuntu, that one is no longer available
[10:11] <rizzo> crimsun: thanks, but are the differences THAT noticeable?
[10:11] <donk__> how do i mount a windows drive?
[10:11] <Viking> i already dowloaded the file... but it wont execute...
[10:11] <eobanb> 15-23 is the latest
[10:12] <crimsun_> rizzo: for $given_workloads, absolutely.
[10:12] <Ayabara> should I install totem-xine or gxine (if any)
[10:12] <noobuntu> Seveas, but there are no repositories or so, which archive them? The 23-KErnel is driving me crazy
[10:12] <nickrud> Ayabara, totem-xine if you plan on playing dvds, gxine for things totem-xine might not play
[10:12] <xonic> how do you edit your sources.list?
[10:12] <SurfnKid__> eobanb, to your question earlier yes synaptic and apt both fail
[10:12] <crimsun_> rizzo: consider multiple rsync processes. That usually kills desktop "interactivity" but performs much better on a [Ubuntu]  server kernel.
[10:13] <SurfnKid__> eobanb, i dc my modem and then quickly saw what you wrote
[10:13] <eobanb> xonic, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:13] <xonic> how do you edit your sources.list?
[10:13] <xonic> ok
[10:13] <nickrud> chapium, sudo chown /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf && sudo chmod 700 /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf
[10:13] <nickrud> chapium, erm, typo:
[10:14] <Ayabara> nickrud: no dvds I think. on breezy I used vlc and mplayer. the wiki says xine can be a good alternative. less complicated to setup
[10:14] <nickrud> chapium, sudo chown root:root /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf && sudo chmod 700 /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf
[10:14] <eobanb> lol.  chown it.  just, chown it!
[10:14] <nickrud> Ayabara, extremely easier to set up
[10:14] <Dr_Geek> really spooky..........tried #kbuntu and no one was ther
[10:14] <xonic> how do you run or install using root?
[10:14] <eobanb> Dr_Geek, that's because the channel name is #kubuntu
[10:14] <Ayabara> nickrud: hehe. I'll try vlc and totem-xine this time around then :-)
[10:15] <Frogsnooze> Dr_Geek: only if you spell it that way
[10:15] <eobanb> !tell xonic about sudo
[10:15] <gdb> xonic: sudo for anything as root.
[10:15] <eobanb> !tell xonic about root
[10:15] <rizzo> crimsun: Does adding ubuntu-desktop after install hurt anything then?
[10:15] <xonic> oh i know thta i thought it was somehting else
[10:15] <nickrud> Ayabara, I've had good luck with totem-xine-firefox-plugin for streaming video as well
[10:15] <esher> FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
[10:15] <esher>  -- if i try to upgrade to 6.06
[10:15] <esher> any1 can help ?
[10:15] <crimsun_> rizzo: no, but you'll want x-window-system-core in addition
[10:15] <cas> hi, for a Centrino Duo CPU, do I need i686-smp for that?
[10:15] <Ayabara> Nickrud: thanks for the tip
[10:15] <simian__> i installed dapper while it was still in it's beta stage (like most of you I expect) but i didn't re-install after the final release as i didn't see the need. But is it recomended?
[10:15] <gdb> rizzo: Which version are you on?  kubuntu?  If it's regular ubuntu, it's already installed.
[10:15] <eobanb> simian__, yes
[10:16] <eobanb> simian__, just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:16] <Amaranth> simian__: you can just upgrade to the latest
[10:16] <eobanb> oh, wait, i misread.
[10:16] <rizzo> crimsun: ok, I guess x-window-system-core dosen't come along with the install of desktop?
[10:16] <nickrud> simian__, no need to reinstall unless you compiled & installed any software. You might have a conflict then, but ymmv
[10:16] <eobanb> rizzo, ...?
[10:17] <crimsun_> rizzo: it's not an explicit dependency of ubuntu-desktop.
[10:17] <rizzo> crimsun: got it.  thanks.
[10:17] <rizzo> eobanb: yes?
[10:17] <eobanb> never mind
[10:17] <gdb> crimsun_: It appears that it is
[10:17] <simian__> eobanb: sorry maybe i wasn't clear, all i did was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    there is no need to re-install from scratch right?
[10:17] <gdb> crimsun_: At least according to dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop | grep x-window-system-core
[10:17] <dooglus> I was playing a full screen SDL game which crashed.  The desktop came back, but the mouse won't move now.  Is there some way of 'waking it up'?  I can make a new login with 'gdmflexiserver', and it's OK there, but my apps are in the old login still.
[10:17] <eobanb> simian__, that's correct.  there's no need to re-install.
[10:18] <crimsun_> gdb: oh good, then the seeds have changed
[10:18] <nickrud> dooglus, sounds like it's time to learn some keystrokes ;)
[10:18] <simian__> eobanb: thanks
[10:18] <gdb> crimsun_: It was not like that in Breezy?  Note I'm pretty new to Ubuntu, so I'm still learning my way around dpkg and things of the like. ;-)
[10:18] <crimsun_> rizzo: then you don't even have to bother installing x-window-system
[10:18] <dooglus> nickrud: I know lots of keystrokes already, but sometimes it's easier to use the moose
[10:18] <gdb> crimsun_: I'm a recovering Fedora user. ;-)
[10:18] <crimsun_> gdb: I haven't looked at the u-d seeds since Hoary.
[10:19] <gdb> ah ok
[10:19] <Bassetts> anyone know anything about servers here?
[10:19] <wweasel> Hey all. I have a sound related problem.  It's not a big one, just a bit of a pain in the ass.  My sound level control seems to be whacked.  At 65% it is as whisper, at 50% it is completly silent (this is with my speakers cranked up fairly high). Can anyone shed some light on what's wrong?
[10:19] <nickrud> dooglus, a moose is too big for my desktop, how big is yours?
[10:19] <dooglus> nickrud: I can't remember how to move a window using the keyboard in XFCE for example
[10:19] <dooglus> nickrud: it's only a little laptop
[10:19] <krazykit> wweasel: is this just Master?  PCM might be low.
[10:19] <nickrud> dooglus, oh. I thought maybe gnome, I could have mentioned a couple there.
[10:19] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I prefer an elk to a moose ;)
[10:19] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I heard that about you.
[10:20] <thoreauputic> dooglus: hahah
[10:20] <acidjedi> Is there a good (free) dvd movie maker program for linux?
[10:20] <thoreauputic> dooglus: your point
[10:20] <dooglus> thoreauputic: nothing.  each to his own.
[10:20] <crimsun_> gdb: although it appears to have been seeded even in Warty.
[10:20] <wweasel> krazykit: i think this is just master. it's the speaker in the top panel. how would i check PCM?
[10:20] <thoreauputic> dooglus: ah - I meant you get a point for that reply :)
[10:21] <wweasel> krazykit: no, i double clicked on it. and pcm is at about 80%
[10:21] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I'll share it with the moose.  now, any idea how I can get him moving again?
[10:22] <acidjedi> Is there a good (free) dvd burning program for linux?
[10:22] <eka> i have my desktop resolution on 1280x1024 but on 60hz and is the only option , how can i add 70 and 75 hz?
[10:22] <Bassetts> can anyone help me with something please
[10:22] <thoreauputic> dooglus: hmm - won't a logout keep your apps by default? ( session manager or whatever)
[10:22] <JediMaster> hey guys, I want to; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdd to the last 1mbyte or so on the disk to remove all the raid information on the drive, any ideas how you do it from the end of the drive?
[10:22] <Bassetts> todo with servers
[10:22] <dooglus> acidjedi: k3b is usually recommended
[10:23] <acidjedi> ok, thanks
[10:23] <s0oze> eka: Careful, make sure your monitor can handle it or you'll turn it into a fishtank
[10:23] <wweasel> eka: you can change that in XOrg.
[10:23] <dooglus> thoreauputic: i've got some stuff running that won't be finished for a few more hours.  i don't want to start it again.
[10:23] <SurfnKid__> eobanb, can i use firestarter as internet connection gateway?
[10:24] <gilligan_> hi
[10:24] <SurfnKid__> eobanb,  sorry i had to restart, so if i want to try to make my Dell laptop a Wireless router, how can I do that
[10:24] <eka> s0oze, it can handle on win does work
[10:24] <Ayabara> how do I start totem-xine once I have installed it?
[10:24] <slackern> SurfnKid__: http://www.fs-security.com/ read about the features of it there.
[10:24] <eka> wweasel, how?
[10:25] <rizzo> Because dapper is an i386 package (versus i686) does that mean the kernel isn't taking advantage of higher CPU functions (MMX, etc) ??
[10:25] <nickrud> Ayabara, double click a movie
[10:25] <Ayabara> does it replace "movie player"?
[10:25] <slackern> SurfnKid__: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php might be what your looking for.
[10:25] <nickrud> Ayabara, yes
[10:25] <SurfnKid__> slackern, ah i am already using firestarter
[10:25] <gilligan_> i'm having some problems with linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 . When I try to boot it I get 'RAMDISK: ran out of compressed data .. invalid compressed data (err=1) --> kernel panic // I tried to remove and install it again, but that did not fix it
[10:25] <SurfnKid__> slackern, awesome thanks!
[10:25] <thoreauputic> dooglus: do you have a USB mouse hanging around? Plugging that in might work...
[10:25] <SurfnKid__> slackern,  the guide is what im looking for
[10:25] <slackern> SurfnKid__: i belive the wizard in it will guide you through it too
[10:25] <Ayabara> Nickrud: ok. what's the difference between them?
[10:26] <xonic> where is hte xorg file located?
[10:26] <slackern> xonic: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:26] <wweasel> eka: i am a newbie too, I can't explain it myself. I know the way to do it is by modifying something in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:26] <bobesponja> can I resize my ntfs partition with ubuntu installer?
[10:26] <nickrud> Ayabara, totem uses the gstreamer backend to decode media, totem-xine uses the xine libs for decoding
[10:26] <thoreauputic> Ayabara: xine backend vs. gstreamer backend
[10:27] <SurfnKid__> slackern, yep ok ill read thru it
[10:27] <Ayabara> nickrud, thoreauputic: ok. is it likely that I will see/hear any difference?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> bobesponja: yes
[10:27] <bobesponja> ok thanx
[10:27] <thoreauputic> Ayabara: not a lot - but xine handles more codecs
[10:27] <nickrud> Ayabara, some, gstreamer is supposed to be not as mature
[10:27] <slackern> SurfnKid__: i just tried it out quickly and remember that option in the wizard, i use another machine for my firewalling/routing.
[10:27] <thoreauputic> Ayabara: install libxine-extracodecs as well
[10:28] <leshaste> anyone got any idea how to get the picture links at http://www.sarikonak.com/english/html/3d.htm working? They seem to be .IPX files whatever that is.
[10:28] <bootlick> Greetings all
[10:28] <bootlick> How do I get my back button working on drapper?
[10:28] <nickrud> I gotta forget a *lot of breezy stuff
[10:28] <eka> how to add another siny freq to xorg?
[10:28] <Scorpmoon> what is the terminal equavilent for gconf?
[10:28] <thoreauputic> bootlick: your back button? in firefox?
[10:28] <SurfnKid__> slackern, let me ask you this, will it automatically set all that up for the internal wifi card to beacon like a router?
[10:28] <nickrud> !tell eka about fixres
[10:28] <Ayabara> nickrud, thoreauputic: got it. thanks for helping
[10:28] <SurfnKid__> slackern, and have an SSID
[10:28] <nickrud> eka, the link from ubotu has a page explaining that
[10:29] <slackern> SurfnKid__: that i have no idea about im afraid =/
[10:29] <nickrud> Scorpmoon, gconf-tool-2
[10:29] <bootlick> Yes, Thoreauputic, in firefox
[10:29] <slackern> SurfnKid__: my knowledge about wifi in linux is obsolete im afraid.
[10:29] <SurfnKid__> slackern, how did you set yours up?
[10:29] <thoreauputic> bootlick: umm - it works fine here
[10:29] <SurfnKid__> slackern, its all new to me
[10:29] <derlandi> #join ubuntu-de
[10:29] <Scorpmoon> nickrud, no such thing
[10:29] <Scorpmoon> i need to edit something in "apps" but I dont have gnome open
[10:29] <nickrud> Scorpmoon, typo again, no dash after gconf
[10:30] <rizzo> Because dapper is an i386 package (versus i686) does that mean the kernel isn't taking advantage of higher CPU functions (MMX, etc) ??
[10:30] <bootlick> thoreauputic - wireless mouse
[10:30] <wweasel> Hey all. I have a sound related problem.  It's not a big one, just a bit of a pain in the ass.  My sound level control seems to be whacked.  At 65% it is as whisper, at 50% it is completly silent (this is with my speakers cranked up fairly high). Can anyone shed some light on what's wrong?
[10:30] <Scorpmoon> it broke when trying to ah
[10:30] <Scorpmoon> ok
[10:30] <slackern> SurfnKid__: i use an old pentium200 machine without X windows on it, running shorewall and a static dhcp server, it took a load of reading manuals and tutorials to get working so it's nothing i recommend doing if your new to this.
[10:30] <thoreauputic> bootlick: well that's not a firefox problem, its a mous problem I'd say
[10:31] <Kibou> wweasel: master or pcm?
[10:31] <bootlick> Thoreaputic, i plug it into a windows box, usb, and it works fine
[10:31] <wweasel> Kibou: PCM is set at 100%. I am moving Master.
[10:31] <tom___> Anyone here knows, where networkmanager stores some logging infos?
[10:31] <SurfnKid__> slackern, nice setup. well ICS is easy, its just that im using a wired-internet   and wireless-network so ill have to read up and see how i can do this
[10:31] <thoreauputic> bootlick: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with attention to the mouse questions
[10:32] <AngryElf> guys, is it just me or does xine-ui plain suck -- it can't keep my really long vids synced up correctly while mplayer does just fine.....any ideas?
[10:32] <Ayabara> why am I not permitted to format an ntfs disk from the disks manager? the button is greyed out
[10:32] <Kibou> wweasel: what about wave..
[10:32] <bootlick> okay, thanks Thoreauputic
[10:32] <slackern> SurfnKid__: i guess it should be about  the same though since it's mostly about the /dev/eth /dev/whatevers.
[10:32] <SurfnKid__> right
[10:32] <nickrud> Ayabara, linux doesn't support ntfs for much but reading
[10:32] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: its just you ;) But seriously, xine works fine here
[10:32] <eyequeue> Ayabara, ntfs writes are unsafe
[10:32] <amortvigil> does ubuntu have kde?
[10:32] <ArthurBrazil> ah i have a question while installing ubuntu i accidently did not select the video mode i wanted to use. how would i go about enabling that after?
[10:32] <crimsun_> amortvigil: yes. apt-get install kubuntu-destkop.
[10:32] <crimsun_> amortvigil: -desktop^
[10:33] <eyequeue> amortvigil, kubuntu
[10:33] <slackern> you have a pm amortvigil
[10:33] <Oska1> I have mounted two NTFS partitions. in /etc/fstab they have the same options. Only one of them show on my desktop and "Places" menu. Why wont the other one show ? and how can I make it show? ( I can access it though)
[10:33] <AngryElf> thoreauputic, have you used it on movie-length transcoded DVDs-> avis??? It seems on about every third one it doesn't stay synced near the end
[10:33] <wweasel> Kibou: How do I check what Wave is set to?
[10:33] <Ayabara> withdraw my question. poorly phrased and I found out.. I wanted to reformat an ntfs drive to ext3. forgot to hit 'disable' first...
[10:33] <nickrud> Oska1, by same option, do mean same mount point also?
[10:33] <Oska1> no
[10:33] <amortvigil> crimsum: and gtk is gnome?
[10:33] <Oska1> different mount points
[10:33] <nickrud> Oska1, I mention that cuz I went round on that once :)
[10:33] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: no, not really to be honest - only short things up to 10 or 20 minutes
[10:34] <Kibou> wweasel: look in alsamixer if it actually exists
[10:34] <Dr_Geek> bbl
[10:34] <wweasel> Kibou: It doesn't./
[10:34] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: there's a sound delay option you can tweak though IIRC
[10:34] <nickrud> Oska1, do they both mount in /media ?
[10:34] <AngryElf> thoreauputic, yea i've seen it, but it's fine in the beginning, and gets worse at the end....i doubt a linear shift would fix it
[10:35] <AngryElf> i'll just use mplayer :)
[10:35] <Oska1> nickrud: One is mounted in /media/Windows, the one that wont show is mounted in /home/username/DeeDee. I also have an Fat32 partition mounted in /home/username/CJ and this one appears on the desktop and in "Places"
[10:35] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: hmm - sorry I don't know then
[10:35] <Kibou> wweasel: no idea then. sorry
[10:35] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: if mplayer works for you, use that as default I guess
[10:35] <gdb> I'm having a sound issue on my Tecra 8000.  The sound card is detected, I see the modules loaded for it via lsmod.  I can't play any sounds.  I have the same issue with a Dell Optiplex GX620 at work (but I'm on the laptop at the moment).  Can someone lend me a hand?
[10:36] <nickrud> Oska1, does the fat32 have user in the options? (that causes it to show up there iirc). It won't show on the desktop if it has default mount options and is not in /media
[10:36] <thoreauputic> AngryElf: I change defaults to suit here - on breezy mplayer didn't behave at all well but on dapper it seems fine
[10:36] <gdb> Sound works running remotely via freenx. :-P
[10:37] <crimsun_> gdb: please pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer''
[10:37] <amortvigil> :S ive ubunut 6.06 how must i install qtCurve i hae gnome and i dont understand the instalation help : http://pastebin.com/703286
[10:37] <Oska1> nickrud:  DeeDee has " nls=utf8,umask=0222" as options. CJ has " umask=0000,dmask=0000,uid=0002,gid=users,users". Should I change DeeDee's options to "nls=utf8,umask=0222,users" ?
[10:38] <wolfeySI> thx someone for this tutorial on bind9 on ubuntu
[10:38] <wolfeySI> http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Install_BIND9_in_Ubuntu_(Breezy)
[10:38] <wolfeySI> WORKS NOW:P
[10:39] <nickrud> Oska1, you could try that. I haven't so I can't vouch for it getting the disk onto the desktop, but you'll only lose a minute or so testing it.
[10:39] <esher> hmm, anyone can help? ubuntu upgrade to 6.06 with gksudo "update-manager -d" wont work
[10:39] <ArthurBrazil> ah i have a question while installing ubuntu i accidently did not select the video mode i wanted to use. how would i go about enabling that after?
[10:39] <wolfeySI> now i wont have to bitch how ubuntu is stupid
[10:39] <wolfeySI> :P
[10:39] <wolfeySI> still gentoo is better
[10:39] <wolfeySI> :)
[10:39] <Oska1> nickrud: OK thanx. will try that.
[10:39] <boha_> haw can i check that my sound card is working properly?
[10:40] <crimsun_> boha_: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[10:40] <thoreauputic> boha_: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  ;p
[10:40] <crimsun_> boha_: or use ``gstreamer-properties'' and click Test under audio sink
[10:40] <amortvigil> how must i install qtCurve i have ubuntu 6 and gnome, i don't understand the instalation help : http://pastebin.com/703286 to what location do i have to instrall it and how?
[10:40] <boha_> ok tnx
[10:40] <gdb> crimsun_: Thank you.  Here's the pastebin -> http://pastebin.com/703295
[10:40] <Scorpmoon> i broke my gnome after following this guide installing Xgl/Compiz: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253
[10:41] <Bassetts> how can i setup a cron to delete a file every hour?
[10:41] <leshaste> anyone got any idea how to get the picture links at http://www.sarikonak.com/english/html/3d.htm working? They seem to be .IPX files whatever that is.
[10:41] <gdb> crimsun_: Ah, this was done as my normal user account.  I may do this as root.  I see this line in some of the output: Capabilities: <available only to root>
[10:41] <gdb> crimsun_: Shall I take care of that?
[10:41] <crimsun_> gdb: no need
[10:41] <gdb> crimsun_: k
[10:42] <gdb> crimsun_: I'm logged into the machine via NX also.  I'm going to swap over to the actual console.
[10:42] <gdb> Using screen here so I won't need to leave and come back. ;-)
[10:42] <ArthurBrazil> !tell Arthur
[10:42] <crimsun_> gdb: you may want to increase the volumes for 'Bass' and 'Treble'. They're set to 0.
[10:44] <Bassetts> would "rmdir /path/to/dir" be pl to put in a cron and run every hour?
[10:44] <boha_> ok i think its working properly
[10:44] <crimsun_> boha_: "think"? :)  You either can or can't hear it. :)
[10:44] <boha_> but why i dont have sound in enemy territory?
[10:44] <boha_> :p
[10:44] <NoWhereToTurn> can one upgrade hoary to dapper without losing the grub config info?
[10:44] <robshpiel1> i have a grub question
[10:44] <boha_> yes i hear it:D
[10:44] <dooglus> Bassetts: rmdir won't remove files - only empty directories
[10:44] <gdb> crimsun_: oh dear
[10:44] <Ayabara> I tried to reformat an ntfs partition to ext3, but now disks manager still shows it as ntfs, and refuses to enable it..
[10:44] <gdb> crimsun_: If that's the issue, I'm terribly embarassed. lol
[10:45] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, you will need to upgrade to breezy from hoary before going to dapper. And it will preserve grub for you
[10:45] <crimsun_> boha_: did you uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable software sound mixing ?
[10:45] <gdb> crimsun_: The volume slider is all the way up, I'll dig around and see about increasing the volume for those channels.
[10:45] <ProN00b> how can i change what language openoffice uses to spellcheck ?
[10:45] <NoWhereToTurn> breezy is still downloadable via iso?
[10:45] <crimsun_> NoWhereToTurn: yes, from the download page
[10:45] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, you'd be better off just doing a fresh install of dapper
[10:45] <robshpiel1> i have windows installed on my primary drive /dev/hde1 which currently boots, ubuntu is installed on my second disk, in dev/hdg3, i cant seem to get grub to load properly
[10:45] <amortvigil> how must i install qtCurve i have ubuntu 6 and gnome, i don't understand the instalation help : http://pastebin.com/703286 to what location do i have to instrall it and how?
[10:46] <Ayabara> will I have to edit /etc/fstab manually?
[10:46] <boha_> crimsun_,  it is checked
[10:46] <steveire> How can I trim the fat and clean up stuff that's just taking up space? I've already done apt-get clean.
[10:46] <boha_> crimsun_,  do i have to uncheck it?
[10:46] <crimsun_> boha_: try unchecking it
[10:46] <NoWhereToTurn> nickrud I must be able to use the existing grub configuration information as there are multiple o/s on this box
[10:46] <eyequeue> Ayabara, it can't hurt to check it
[10:46] <loanwolf> ? installed ubuntu 6..then installed kde..but kdm is saying cant access kdm theme
[10:46] <NoWhereToTurn> as well the forum indicates that the desktop version of dapper is flaky and the alternate download should be used
[10:47] <Bassetts> dooglus: how do i remove a directory and files?
[10:47] <dooglus> loanwolf: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[10:47] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, copy the /boot/grub/menu.lst to a floppy or something for later reference. But, dapper is pretty good at picking up other os's.
[10:47] <dooglus> Bassetts: /bin/rf -fr /path/to/file-or-dir
[10:47] <dooglus> Bassetts: that's /bin/rm
[10:47] <dooglus> Bassetts: not /bin/rf
[10:47] <Bassetts> will that work on an apache server???
[10:47] <Ayabara> eyequeue: I see that fstab still says it is ntfs, but I don't know if I can just update it to ext3, or if the formatting didn't work
[10:47] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, I've heard that also. My live install went ok, though.
[10:48] <eyequeue> Ayabara, what does fsck say about the partition?
[10:48] <Bassetts> dooglus, will it work in cpanel on an apache server?
[10:48] <dooglus> Bassetts: it'll work on any linux box
[10:48] <NoWhereToTurn> downloading the alternate install ISO via torrent.. going to take another hour to get it
[10:48] <Bassetts> ok
[10:48] <dooglus> Bassetts: I don't know cpanel
[10:48] <Bassetts> cpanel just runs ontop of apache
[10:48] <ubuntu__> does anyone know if suse 9.1 or hight support wifi
[10:48] <loanwolf> dooglus, already downloaded this distro and installed it..and installed kde...if i install another distro..its going back to mandriva
[10:48] <dooglus> Bassetts: it's a shell command.  if you can run shell commands as root then it's OK.
[10:48] <Bassetts> you can setup crons in cpanel
[10:48] <boha_> crimsun_,  still no sound in et :S
[10:49] <dooglus> loanwolf: kubuntu-desktop is a package.
[10:49] <tga> for some reason I can't get my Orinoco cards to talk to the router since I upgraded to Dapper
[10:49] <crimsun_> boha_: please pastebin the console output
[10:49] <eyequeue> Ayabara, did you umount it before mkfs.ext3'ing it?
[10:49] <tga> any idea what could be going on?
[10:49] <Ayabara> eyequeue: fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[10:49] <loanwolf> dooglus, ohh ok srry for that
[10:49] <thelostbyte_> Gosh !
[10:49] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, a good thing to spend this hour is backing up data. Also, you might want to read the dpkg man page, the part about get-selections & set-selections for setting up your new os.
[10:49] <dooglus> loanwolf: it's a package which depends on a metric shedload of other packages though (all the KDE apps and stuff)
[10:50] <gdb> crimsun_: Ok, by manipulating the options for the volume control applet, I've increased bass and treble to max, using the master volume for volume control.  When I try to run the "Experience ubuntu.ogg" video, totem complains that it can't establish a connection to the sound server.  When I run "esd -d /dev/dsp" I get an error: ALSA lib pcm.c:2102:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM /dev/dsp
[10:50] <thelostbyte_> help.. i just added skim panel applet and i dont see my kicker now ?
[10:50] <NoWhereToTurn> I have nothing on ubuntu to backup since I rarely used it
[10:50] <eyequeue> Ayabara, umount /your/mount/point
[10:50] <gdb> crimsun_: And esd exits (does not remain running to try totem again).
[10:50] <Bassetts> dooglus: is it possible to tell it to remove everything in /files but not the folder /files itself?
[10:50] <nickrud> then you probably don't need the dpkg stuff either then :)
[10:50] <tga> hmm.. a bunch of Orinoco bugs in launchpad
[10:51] <eyequeue> Ayabara, then mkfs.ext3 with the options you want (man mkfs.ext3)
[10:51] <dooglus> Bassetts: "/bin/rm -fr /files/*" will remove most of the stuff in /files/ without removing /files/ itself.  but it won't touch anything beginning with a '.' character.
[10:51] <crimsun_> gdb: what is the default audio sink configured as in ``gstreamer-properties''?
[10:51] <Ayabara> eyequeue: the partition is not mounted
[10:51] <amortvigil> what is nicer gnome or kubuntu?
[10:51] <loanwolf> dooglus, ok..i will do that...what package do i need for xine tp play mpeg video's..
[10:51] <Bassetts> cheers dooglus
[10:51] <eyequeue> Ayabara, then change /etc/fstab and then mount /your/mount/point
[10:51] <boha_> crimsun_,  paste what?
[10:51] <Ayabara> eyequeue: ahh. now I get it
[10:52] <nickrud> dooglus, do you have a simple command line that includes the dot files, they always give me problems
[10:52] <Ayabara> thanks
[10:52] <eyequeue> Ayabara, no problem
[10:52] <dooglus> loanwolf: I prefer mplayer to xine.  did you try w32codecs maybe?  or see the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki?
[10:52] <crimsun_> boha_: the tty output from ET starting up
[10:52] <BobbyGrace> amortvigil: It's a personal matter. KDE (Kubuntu) is prettier but I think Gnome is more functional
[10:52] <gdb> crimsun_: Output is set to Autoselect.  The other options are ALSA, ESD, OSS, and Custom.
[10:52] <loanwolf> ok
[10:52] <Ayabara> eyequeue: one more question. I have no idea what options I want.. is there a common choice here?
[10:52] <crimsun_> gdb: can you set it to alsa instead of auto?
[10:52] <eyequeue> Ayabara, i think the basic principle is that it needs to be unmounted, just a "data" file when you manipulate it
[10:53] <gdb> crimsun_: Yes, when I set that and click the Test button, I get a dialog that says: ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture: Resource busy or unavailable.
[10:53] <gdb> er or not available
[10:53] <crimsun_> gdb: ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[10:54] <eyequeue> Ayabara, i suspect you'll do fine with the defaults, just leave the optional parameters off
[10:54] <mrw> Anyone know why sound lags when playing flash videos?  I see solutions in the forums for other versions of Ubuntu but those don't apply to Dapper Drake
[10:54] <NoWhereToTurn> Is upgrading Ubuntu to a new release always this complicated?
[10:54] <crimsun_> NoWhereToTurn: hopefully not.
[10:54] <Ayabara> eyequeue: just mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda3?
[10:54] <ArthurBrazil> ah i have a question while installing ubuntu i accidently did not select the video mode i wanted to use. how would i go about enabling that after? 'I already edited my Xorg.conf" and did the proper Nvidia drivers Install
[10:54] <tga> anyone using an Orinoco wireless card with Dapper?
[10:54] <gdb> crimsun_: aplay, gaim, mixer_app, and gnome-volume-control all have either /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p or /dev/snd/controlC0 open.
[10:55] <NoWhereToTurn> It seems that one has to go through a whole bunch of steps even going from the prior breezy version to dapper
[10:55] <gdb> crimsun_: Should I log out and back in to free them and allow ALSA to take over?
[10:55] <eyequeue> Ayabara, yeah, give that a shot
[10:55] <boha_> crimsun_,  i paste on privat
[10:55] <crimsun_> gdb: well, ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' should work...
[10:55] <crafteh> I have a Thinkpad T40. I had a USB keyboard for a while... and ever since using the USB keyboard on the laptop, the keys on my regular keyboard are not mapped correctly in X. How can I fix this?
[10:55] <crimsun_> boha_: no, please use pastebin.
[10:56] <boha_> can you give me link of pastebin?
[10:56] <gerardomt> Hi!
[10:56] <crimsun_> !paste
[10:56] <gerardomt> CAn you help me
[10:56] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[10:56] <crimsun_> ^^ boha_
[10:56] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, breezy to dapper is actually pretty simple. apt simply does not support skipping releases
[10:56] <NoWhereToTurn> Does Ubuntu dapper work with serial mice???
[10:56] <crimsun_> NoWhereToTurn: yes
[10:56] <gerardomt> I cant listen my music collection in mp4/acc
[10:56] <crimsun_> gerardomt: using what player?
[10:56] <boha_> crimsun_,  tnx
[10:56] <dooglus> nickrud: if you do "shopt -s dotglob" then "*" will include dot files;  do "shopt -u dotglob" to get things back to normal
[10:56] <gerardomt> I already downloaded the gstreamer faad and the gstreamer faac
[10:57] <tga> hmm.. Orinoco anyone?
[10:57] <gdb> crimsun_: Running strace on that command shows aplay seeming to hang at this syscall: open("/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p", O_RDWR
[10:57] <gerardomt> But i dont know hot to compile them and install them
[10:57] <NoWhereToTurn> nickrud well according to the website there are a bunch of steps that are recommeneded to be followed
[10:57] <crimsun_> gerardomt: apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[10:57] <eyequeue> Ayabara, is it scsi?
[10:57] <gdb> crimsun_: There isn't any sound coming from the speakers, either.
[10:57] <dooglus> Bassetts: "shopt -s dotglob" then "/bin/rm -fr /files/*" will remove all the stuff in /files/ without removing /files/ itself.
[10:57] <crimsun_> gerardomt: (you'll need universe and multiverse enabled)
[10:57] <nickrud> dooglus, I'll note that, thanks. I kept mc around for various things, that was the last important one left
[10:57] <gdb> crimsun_: I think I'll try logging out and in again to free those devices while GNOME is configured to use ALSA.  It's a long shot, but worth a try.
[10:57] <Ayabara> eyequeue: no, it's ide I think ( noob :-) ). It's an inspiron laptop
[10:57] <dooglus> nickrud: "shopt -s" is pretty ugly I think, and only works in bash - don't know if there's a more general way to do it
[10:57] <crimsun_> gdb: ok.
[10:58] <boha_> crimsun_,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15568
[10:58] <nickrud> dooglus, I'm perfectly happy with that bash thing, thanks again
[10:58] <eyequeue> Ayabara, my ide are /dev/hda, not /dev/sda
[10:58] <Strife> so I was just trying to install windows so I could play games, but aborted because it only showed one partition when there were supposed to be 4...
[10:58] <nickrud> not like i delete a lot of dotfiles all the time anyway, so ugly is relative
[10:58] <Strife> now it appears there really are only 4... anyone know of anything I can use to recover the data?
[10:58] <eyequeue> Ayabara, any chance that's a factor?
[10:58] <crafteh> I have a Thinkpad T40. I had a USB keyboard for a while... and ever since using the USB keyboard on the laptop, the keys on my regular keyboard are not mapped correctly in X. How can I fix this? My xorg.conf doesn't look any different!
[10:59] <Ayabara> eyequeue: hmm. maybe it is scsi then. looks like I managed to create the fs. should I just use 'defaults' in fstab?
[10:59] <esher> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15569 someone can help? i want to upgrade brezzy to dapper
[10:59] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, which website? the advice here has been sudo "update-manager -d" for a while now
[10:59] <eyequeue> Ayabara, yeah, use defaults at first at least, tweak things later if needed
[10:59] <dooglus> nickrud: this works too:  /bin/rm -fr /path/to/directory/{*,.*}
[11:00] <gnomefreak> esher: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[11:00] <gerardomt> I dont have the multiverse
[11:00] <TheSheep> how do I change the subtitle size in totem? the preferences setting seems to have no effect :(
[11:00] <Harold_P> People are still upgrading to Dapper?
[11:00] <gerardomt> And i dont know where to find it
[11:00] <nickrud> dooglus, much more elegant, editing notes again :)
[11:00] <simian__> if i wan't to connect to another computer on my network with ssh it's easy, but if I want to do it from a remote location do I need to set up my router
[11:00] <dooglus> nickrud: it will give a couple of messages, about . and ..
[11:00] <gnomefreak> esher: not as root
[11:00] <NoWhereToTurn> nicrud https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[11:00] <dooglus> nickrud: did you know about the {,,} syntax in bash?
[11:00] <cwolfie> hi all
[11:00] <Rainier> hello
[11:00] <Rainier> everyone
[11:00] <eyequeue> simian__, you;ll want to router to forward port 22 (or some other) to the box in question
[11:01] <crimsun_> boha_: pastebin ``lsof /dev/dsp*''
[11:01] <cwolfie> im using xchat from the ubuntu live cd
[11:01] <crafteh> is there a way to force ubuntu to try to redetect hardware (like a keyboard)?
[11:01] <minntc> I dist-upgraded to dapper and appear to have lost my root certificates for Firefox. Anyone have any ideas?
[11:01] <cwolfie> Can I use the live CD to watchj a DVD movie ?
[11:01] <Rainier> can anyone help please?
[11:01] <esher> gnomefreak, as user ive got the same error msg
[11:01] <simian__> eyequeue: ok, is port 22 standard for ssh?
[11:01] <cwolfie> Any suggestions please?
[11:01] <Rainier> im getting this strange message when i install/remove packages
[11:01] <eyequeue> simian__, yes
[11:01] <Ayabara> eyequeue: it worked. thanks for helping!
[11:01] <tga> cwolfie: the live CD doesn't include the DVD decoding lib
[11:01] <funkja> I'm trying to set up VNC but it isn't working. The command "vncserver" says not found and if I try to install the package it tells me that "vnvserver" is not a package. What am I doing wrong?
[11:01] <simian__> eyequeue: thanks
[11:02] <tga> funkja: it's xvnc iirc
[11:02] <gnomefreak> esher: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and change all breezy to dapper than save and close it than run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:02] <cwolfie> tga: is there a way I can get it going without installing anything on my HDD ?
[11:02] <eyequeue> simian__, i use 1122 for box .11, 1222 for box .12 on the lan, etc, if that helps
[11:02] <cwolfie> I read about GeexBox
[11:02] <thoreauputic> funkja: /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[11:02] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, yeah, it's longer, not exactly clear. But it boils down to making sure your breezy is up to date, then running the update-manager
[11:02] <cwolfie> im downloading it
[11:02] <eyequeue> Ayabara, congrats
[11:02] <cwolfie> apart from that anything that you can suggest will be of great help.
[11:02] <thoreauputic> funkja: and don't ask me why it isn't in the $PATH - I have no idea ;)
[11:02] <simian__> eyequeue: i see, thanks
[11:03] <NoWhereToTurn> well since I dont have breezy installed I have to jump through more hoops
[11:03] <tga> cwolfie: I'm not sure if you can install packages on the livecd
[11:03] <boha_> crimsun_,  hmm nothing shows
[11:03] <funkja> :)
[11:03] <crimsun_> boha_: lsmod |grep ^snd_pcm_oss
[11:03] <Bassetts> dooglus: is there a way to make a html file with some html in it every hour?
[11:04] <boha_> crimsun_,  snd_pcm_oss            53664  0
[11:04] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, true. Thats why I suggest a new install. Faster, smaller download, etc.
[11:04] <Rainier> can anyone help me please?
[11:04] <Rainier> im getting this strange message when i install/remove packages
[11:04] <crimsun_> boha_: ls -l /dev/dsp*
[11:04] <gilligan_> Rainier, and what does the msg say?
[11:04] <Bassetts> oh , he went
[11:04] <esher> thanx gnomefreak
[11:04] <esher> now it workls
[11:04] <gdb> crimsun_: Now this is interesting. When I started up again, I was looking at what was opening sound files in a tty.  It looks like esd launched and stayed running, however, the full desktop was taking *forever* to come up.  Killing off esd allowed the desktop to finish loading very quickly.
[11:04] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, apt kinda assumes people are generally close to up to date
[11:04] <Rainier> hello gilligan_ thanks, it says: ** (process:14922): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[11:04] <NoWhereToTurn> nickrud ok then what ISO do I use? The desktop version which supposedly is buggy or the alternate isntall version?
[11:04] <boha_> crimsun_,  crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2006-06-10 13:50 /dev/dsp
[11:04] <chapium> anyone know how to enable dual monitors in X?
[11:04] <tga> can anyone help with getting an Orinoco card to work in Dapper?
[11:04] <gdb> crimsun_: By "sound files" I mean the devices in /dev/snd
[11:04] <Bassetts> is it possible to make a html file with some predifined html in it through terminal
[11:05] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, alternate
[11:05] <Rainier> gilligan_: packages are installed and removed anyway but this appears many times with different process numbers
[11:05] <KanRiNiN> Does anyone know the default backend?  is it xine or gstreamer?
[11:05] <crimsun_> gdb: uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable software sound mixing
[11:05] <gdb> crimsun_: I'm beginning to suspect that the Tecra 8000 simply has sound hardware that's not going to work, period. ;-)
[11:05] <NoWhereToTurn> ok thank goodness for that.. been running around in circles for the last day
[11:05] <C_REATiVE_> byz
[11:05] <nickrud> NoWhereToTurn, or, that's the general consensus on this channel. gnomefreak spends more time here, and recommends it a lot
[11:05] <gdb> crimsun_: k
[11:05] <Rainier> gilligan_: it started after i installed xfce. i removed it but it still appears
[11:05] <crimsun_> gdb: at that point, does aplay work?
[11:05] <xonic> what is hte channel for the xgl?
[11:06] <xonic> #ubuntu-xgl?
[11:06] <crimsun_> xonic: yes
[11:06] <gilligan_> Rainier, hm.. dunno about that. Try too google for the error message.. but i'd ignore that for now
[11:06] <Bassetts> dooglus??
[11:06] <nickrud> channel for xgl should be /dev/null
[11:06] <[H5N1] > ?
[11:06] <Rainier> gilligan_: ok thanx anyway
[11:06] <crimsun_> boha_: does ``cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp'' do anything?
[11:07] <Chris_Tucker> how do i find the location of a file if i know only the filename?
[11:07] <crimsun_> boha_: you'll need to interrupt it with ctrl+c, of course
[11:07] <gdb> crimsun_: aplay reports that it is "Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' etc etc, and then spits out this error: aplay: pcm_write:1222: write error: Input/output error
[11:07] <cwolfie> cant i mount the DVD drive from a ubuntu live cd ?
[11:07] <crimsun_> gdb: aha.
[11:07] <gdb> crimsun_: So I'm suspecting that this is simply not going to work.  I trust that the system is now in a state where sound *should* be working.
[11:07] <crimsun_> gdb: Is PnP enabled in the bios?
[11:07] <crimsun_> gdb: if so, disable it.
[11:07] <gdb> crimsun_: That I don't know.  I will have to leave channel to reboot the machine.  I will do that now.
[11:08] <gdb> crimsun_: Thank you for your dilligence in assisting me with this.
[11:08] <Strife> is there a way to recover data from messed up partitions that anyone knows about?
[11:08] <Bassetts> anyone? can i make a html file with some html in it through terminal without me opening nano myself and putting in the html?
[11:08] <gdb> crimsun_: I'm not one that normally has to ask for help, so this is somewhat frustrating. ;-)
[11:08] <Cyfr> hi! I have a laptop with an nvidia fx5700go in it. I've installed nvidia drivers, tried using automatix and using manual install methods. Both result in a freeze on the nvidia logo..
[11:09] <AskHL> Hello, when I run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" then it complains about a (fatally) missing file namely "/etc/postfix/main.cf". In the directory there are three files with names called  main.cf.dist , main.cf.debian and main.cf.tls . What can I do? The computer frequently crashes while deconfiguring interfaces and I think this is the reason.
[11:09] <boha_> crimsun_,  i hear some noise
[11:09] <cwolfie> join #ubunduhelp
[11:09] <installing-guy> u mean ubunTuhelp
[11:09] <cwolfie> oops
[11:09] <cwolfie> ya
[11:09] <cwolfie> none there
[11:10] <cwolfie> man i need some help :)
[11:10] <funkja> 924006
[11:10] <crimsun_> boha_: ok, have you modified /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss ?
[11:10] <cwolfie> when i boot using the live cd cant i download and copy something to my HDD ?
[11:10] <cwolfie> when i open the HDD it is getting mouted as read only
[11:10] <boha_> crimsun_,  no
[11:10] <cwolfie> cant I change it ?
[11:10] <noobuntu> hj, has here anyone a suggestion if and how I can install a Kernel from a Live-CD into a existing Ubuntu-System?
[11:10] <awesometaylor> cwolfie: ntfs partitions mount only as read only
[11:10] <gnomefreak> cwolfie: ntfs?
[11:11] <slackern> cwolfie: are you trying to write to an Windows NTFS partition?
[11:11] <cwolfie> ya
[11:11] <djspiewak> anyone know how to use an sta adc/dac sound device with ubuntu?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> cwolfie: you really dont wanna do that
[11:11] <slackern> cwolfie: the reason is that the little write support that is in linux for NTFS is consider unsafe and can break things.
[11:12] <cwolfie> hmmm
[11:12] <libdmb> hey, is there a metapackage for ubuntu-server, because i can't find it?
[11:12] <cwolfie> lemme try shoving my usb drive
[11:12] <nickrud> noobuntu, that's a strange one: but you could mount the livecd and look for the kernel on the livecd. But, I don't have an opinion on doing that, other than being sure you have a good fallback :)
[11:12] <libdmb> just to install the server packages?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> libdmb: no
[11:12] <cwolfie> or i will have to boot back to Xp to downlaod GeexboX
[11:12] <slackern> cwolfie: if you have a fat32 (vfat) partition it will work fine but not with large files over 4gb i belive.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> libdmb: depends what you want
[11:12] <noobuntu> nickrud: thanks i tried allready that, but found no *.deb-packages on it
[11:12] <oranged> hello
[11:12] <tga> orinoco+wep+dapper = bleh
[11:13] <libdmb> gnomefreak: ok, just wondering, because i saw edubuntu-server
[11:13] <AngryElf> where can i post a suggestion, i.e. where's the official ubuntu wish list?
[11:13] <tga> AngryElf: everything you store in /dev/null will be sent to the Ubuntu dev team
[11:13] <cwolfie> and i cant mount DVD drive
[11:13] <AngryElf> ?? will they really read it?
[11:13] <cwolfie> can i format a partition to fat32 using ubuntu live cd ?
[11:13] <awesometaylor> lol
[11:14] <oranged> question.. even tho i've got a range of v&h refresh rates for my monitor in xorg.conf.. the screen resolution dialoge in gnome only displays one refresh rate
[11:14] <AngryElf> :( funny
[11:14] <crimsun_> boha_: try: echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" |sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss && echo "et.x86 0 0 disable" |sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss
[11:14] <djspiewak> anyone know how to use an sta adc/dac sound device with ubuntu?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> just to make sure i checked there is no ubuntu server but im thinking why not install lamp and whatever else you like to go along with it
[11:14] <crimsun_> djspiewak: more precise, please?
[11:14] <djspiewak> um, it's an external multi-channel sound device
[11:14] <simian__> eyequeue: i have set up my router to allow all inbound traffic to port 22 but when i try to connect it says connection refused
[11:14] <djspiewak> I'll get a model number
[11:15] <djspiewak> adc & dac 2000
[11:15] <djspiewak> that's about all I have
[11:15] <Pupeno> Hello.
[11:15] <djspiewak> it plugs into a specialized sound card
[11:15] <djspiewak> in a PCI express slot
[11:15] <b14ck> my dvd rom works ONLY in knoppix. ubuntu w98 wxp w2000 - an all of the OS it doesn't read allmost any dvd. in knoppix i have no problem
[11:15] <crimsun_> djspiewak: so it's a breakout? Ok.
[11:15] <djspiewak> yes
[11:15] <boha_> crimsun_,  et.x86 0 0 direct
[11:15] <boha_> et.x86 0 0 disable
[11:15] <eyequeue> simian__, do you want that to go into the router, or be forwarded to your computer?
[11:15] <crimsun_> boha_: right, now try ET.
[11:15] <crimsun_> djspiewak: cat /proc/asound/modules
[11:15] <djspiewak> hang on
[11:16] <nickrud> noobuntu, there are debs there, there's gotta be: I don't have a disk right now (going to download immediately)
[11:16] <Pupeno> I have installed apache2, libapache2-mod-php5, enabled it (a2enmod php5), restarted apache; yet, when I see a php, the browser tries to download, apache doesn't interpret it. Any ideas ?
[11:16] <slackern> cwolfie: I belive you can do that yes, i haven't used the livecd myself but look if you can find gparted perhaps that can help you do it with a graphical interface
[11:16] <djspiewak> 0 snd_ice1712
[11:16] <simian__> eyequeue: i told the router to forward all port 22 traffic to 192.168.0.4
[11:16] <djspiewak> I can get sound out of it in the first channel
[11:16] <djspiewak> but nothing in
[11:16] <dooglus> AngryElf: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityEdgyIdeas maybe?
[11:16] <boha_> crimsun_,  works great!!!!! thank you very much!! :DDD
[11:16] <cwolfie> slackern, type gparted from root prompt ?
[11:17] <calamari> my shutdown button seems to have turned into a logout button.  how do I fix it?
[11:17] <crimsun_> djspiewak: looks like you need to adjust mixer channels. Have you looked at the ice17xx pages on alsa2.opensrc.org ?
[11:17] <djspiewak> no I haven't
[11:17] <slackern> cwolfie: it will have to be 'sudo gparted' i guess or look for it in the menu's probably system->administration
[11:17] <b14ck> my dvd rom works ONLY in knoppix. ubuntu w98 wxp w2000 - an all of the OS it doesn't read allmost any dvd. in knoppix i have no problem
[11:17] <crimsun_> boha_: np
[11:17] <djspiewak> thanks for the tip
[11:18] <Pupeno> I have installed apache2, libapache2-mod-php5, enabled it (a2enmod php5), restarted apache; yet, when I see a php, the browser tries to download, apache doesn't interpret it. Anything else to try ?
[11:18] <djspiewak> Pupeno: make sure your mime types are configured
[11:18] <gdb> crimsun_: It looks like aplay is hung on playing question.wav.  I've set the BIOS from "Configure: All Devices" to "Configure: Setup by OS" (I am assuming that was the PnP feature).  Also, when reviewing the sound control panel, I see that Bass and Treble are again set to 0.
[11:18] <cwolfie> /home/warty/Desktop/geexbox-0.98.7-en.i386.iso
[11:18] <aeho> Hey, I'm running dapper and neither nautilus or k3b can burn working dvds. K3b gives "Fatal error during recording: Link number out of range".
[11:18] <cwolfie> oops
[11:18] <gdb> crimsun_: I'm going to strace the aplay process and see what it's doing.
[11:19] <Pupeno> djspiewak: they are configured by enabling the module, I've tried enabling them by hand anyway.
[11:19] <djspiewak> hmm
[11:19] <Alethes> How do I resolve this issue with java apps in Ubuntu?  /usr/share/themes/Human/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:70: Engine "ubuntulooks" is unsupported, ignoring
[11:19] <Alethes> Java attempts to use the gtk theme, but it's not working
[11:19] <djspiewak> java 6 supports it
[11:19] <filipe> j mouronho
[11:19] <djspiewak> java 5 uses a dumb synth hack
[11:19] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys.  I'm trying to mkfs.ext2 /AFSCache at bootup with the shell, to create a large ext3 or ext2 file;  Can someone point me to a site to teach me how to do this?
[11:19] <gdb> crimsun_: ioctl(4, 0x400c4150, 0xbf80d5f0)        = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:20] <Alethes> djspiewak:  java 1.6?
[11:20] <djspiewak> yes
[11:20] <Alethes> ok
[11:20] <djspiewak> you can't get it through apt though
[11:20] <Alethes> ok
[11:20] <crimsun_> gdb: it looks like your hardware is not cooperating (irq handler screwage?)
[11:20] <gdb> crimsun_: I think this is becoming a lost cause. ;-) Hopefully it will work on the Optiplex GX620 at work.  Fedora Core 5 is playing sound on my workmate's machine so I am sure Ubuntu can be made to do it.
[11:20] <crimsun_> gdb: what's the output from ``cat /proc/interrupts && dmesg''
[11:20] <gdb> crimsun_: Yes, I do believe this is a hardware issue on this machine.
[11:20] <Alethes> djspiewak:  think it will be available thought apt at some point or is it a licensing issue?
[11:20] <Pupeno> I even see it in the signature: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2 Server at ulab Port 80
[11:21] <nickrud> Alethes, install gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks
[11:21] <LoneShadow> how do you guys access your desktop remotely ?
[11:21] <gdb> crimsun_: I'm going to pastebin that.  The sound is showing up at IRQ 5 (by itself), but dmesg is a bit long.  A moment, please.
[11:22] <b14ck> futuma n cap ce comp borat am!
[11:22] <tga> LoneShadow: ssh
[11:22] <Alethes> nickrud:  I have it. It's just java :)
[11:22] <nickrud> LoneShadow, vnc (slow) ssh desktop
[11:22] <LoneShadow> tga: k :D
[11:22] <LoneShadow> oh
[11:22] <nickrud> Alethes, true, just java :)
[11:22] <LoneShadow> lol thought you sshed me :P
[11:22] <LoneShadow> ssh desktop ? like screens ? :P
[11:22] <nickrud> LoneShadow, sample local machine where I keep the desktop :)
[11:22] <funkja> is there an easy way to upgrade your version of GTK?
[11:22] <tga> LoneShadow: yes, X forwarding
[11:22] <martin__> Hi there! Has anybody ever had problems printing documents specifically with OpenOffice when the document is opened from a Gnome-VFS share? (OO won't print anything at in that cause, but print flawlessly when the same document is opened from the local HDD)
[11:23] <nickrud> LoneShadow, actually idiotic typing, but close to reality :)
[11:23] <Alethes> it's not really that big of a deal.  I was just playing around with Limewire
[11:23] <tga> how would I go about debugging my non-functional Orinoco cards?
[11:23] <exhale> what packages do i need to be able to compile programs from source?
[11:23] <exhale> like make, configure etc.
[11:23] <LoneShadow> so tunnel X over ssh
[11:23] <LoneShadow> hmm
[11:24] <awesometaylor> exhale: build-essential
[11:24] <nickrud> tga, look at the bug database, I hear there's a lot of bugs on orinoco
[11:24] <exhale> thx awesometaylor
[11:24] <oranged> how can i change my screen's refresh rate?
[11:24] <nickrud> !tell oranged about fixres
[11:24] <tga> nickrud: *nod* already did, the best thing they suggest is blacklisting hostap
[11:24] <tga> nickrud: that didn't help though
[11:24] <nickrud> tga, don't have one, sorry. That
[11:24] <matt_> hello?
[11:25] <nickrud> 's the best current recieved wisdom
[11:25] <tga> let's try this again.. anyone here with an Orinoco card on Dapper?
[11:25] <Bassetts> is there no way to get newton to launch without the annoying window with the apple?
[11:25] <gdb> crimsun_: http://pastebin.com/703350 - that's the pastebin of /proc/interrupts and dmesg.  I've also included /proc/ioports.
[11:25] <oni-dracula> anyone have an issue with sound quality being poor in dapper (AC97 audio)?
[11:25] <matt_>  Im wondering if anyone can help me?
[11:26] <ryan_> I'm a ppc user, and I was trying to figure out a way to manually edit partitions when I install...but the new Dapper install with GParted won't allow me to create a NewWorld boot partition. Any thoughts?
[11:26] <awesometaylor> oni-dracula  when i turned PCM volume down a little bit it made it better
[11:26] <LoneShadow> tga, nickrud: can I make a vnc instance to show up on its monitor ?
[11:26] <oni-dracula> ill try that awesometaylor
[11:26] <gnomefreak> matt_: only way to get help is to state your issue
[11:26] <matt_> how can i acess my windows drives and copy stuff to my linux drive without ever going into windows
[11:26] <tga> LoneShadow: what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[11:27] <ryan_> any ppc users here?
[11:27] <tga> matt_: look in /media, they should already be there
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell matt_ -about ntfs
[11:27] <gdb> crimsun_: The sound doesn't work on my homebuild machine, either. In fact, the only machine I've booted the Live CD on and sound worked out of the box is a Dell D600 laptop. ;-)  My desktop at home is an Abit KV8-MAX3 MB with built in AC97 sound.  I realize these issues are all surmountable, but it's trying. ;-)
[11:27] <matt_> well i want to burn all my important windows files because i want to format my drives
[11:27] <thoreauputic> ryan_: FWIW I just let the installer set up its partitions automagically on the free space I made (iBook)
[11:27] <nickrud> LoneShadow, I don't know a lot about vnc: what worked for me was using Sys->Prefs->Remote Desktop to allow connections, then vncviewer desktop:0 in the machine with the good keyboard
[11:27] <LoneShadow> dont have a mouse on my new ubuntu box, so trying to use mouse from my windows
[11:27] <matt_> unfortuantely i can no longer acess my windows because of bugs
[11:28] <Pupeno> has anyone got PHP5 to work on Ubuntu Dapper ?
[11:28] <laind> Hola alguien sabe castellano
[11:28] <Pupeno> !es
[11:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:28] <siriusly> matt take a look here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174562
[11:28] <oranged> nickrud, i've read that howto already. ;) reconfigured xorg.. the whole bit
[11:28] <ryan_> thoreauputic: yeah, I had to do that too. But I dual boot with OS X and I wanted to make my ubuntu partitions smaller on my G4 PB. But I could only use the largest continuous free space, which is bigger than I need it to be for ubuntu.
[11:29] <KanRiNiN> Does anyone still have the ati 8.24.run file?  the .25 is broken for my radeon 9000..  /msg me if you do
[11:29] <crimsun_> gdb: does the laptop boot with acpi=off and/or nolapic?
[11:29] <nickrud> oranged, put your xorg.conf on the pastebin, along with the output sudo lspci -v and the exact model of your monitor
[11:29] <simian__> does vncviewer use port 22?
[11:29] <LoneShadow> simian__: no
[11:29] <matt_> this is completely new to me, i dont even know how to enter commands
[11:29] <thoreauputic> ryan_: someone told me the installer allows partition resizing of hfs+ - but I haven't tried it
[11:30] <rambo3> start hitting every key on the keyboard
[11:30] <nickrud> matt_, Aplications->Accessories->Terminal, that's where you put any commands you see here
[11:30] <crimsun_> gdb: is the optiplex gx620 an Intel EMT64 machine?
[11:30] <symtab> hello
[11:30] <symtab> any ideas how i can fix this
[11:30] <symtab> http://rafb.net/paste/results/4h4W4M66.html
[11:30] <oranged> nickrud, i've got hsync and vsync values for my monitor defined in xorg.conf, but theres only one value listed in the 'screen resolution
[11:30] <pianoboy3333> I really, really need hard drive help, I'm desperate, please please, can someone help me? I think I mortally screwed my ubuntu partition, I meant to install xubuntu on an external, but it seems to have installed over my main partition, Fujitsu was helping me before and we had started using autopsy to try, but he had to leave, so I need someone else to help finish! I really, really need extreme help
[11:30] <gdb> crimsun_: That's not something I've tried.  That nolapic option, is that a setting like "nolapic=off"?  As for the GX620, no, it's a Pentium 4 HT.
[11:30] <oranged>  nickrud; preferences
[11:31] <CokeNCode> oh k, how do i find something that wine just installed ?
[11:31] <matt_> wish me luck
[11:31] <mlucool> I just downloaded the new version and I tried to install a lamp server. After it detects my hardware just shows a plain blue screen and then does nothing. Is this a bug with the new version or how to I make it work?
[11:31] <crimsun_> gdb: just "nolapic"
[11:31] <manish> did any one know abt how to install VLC multimedia player?
[11:31] <nickrud> oranged, ah. in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, add new resolutions next to the current one, like  "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[11:31] <rambo3> .wine/c_drive/Program\ Files/
[11:31] <gdb> crimsun_: I'll try rebooting this machine again with that acpi=off option, and the nolapic.  I'm going to setup my screen session on my server here so I can stop leaving the channel.
[11:31] <crimsun_> gdb: if it's the same GX620 series that I have sitting next door, it's an EMT64 (yes, the logo on the front says Pentium 4 HT, but it's a dual-core 64-bit cpu)
[11:32] <manish> did any one know abt how to install VLC multimedia player?
[11:32] <rendo> When you setup MYSQL and Mediawiki do you need to do it as root or your user name?
[11:32] <oranged> nickrud, i've got the resolutions defined.. i need to turn down the refresh rate..
[11:32] <nickrud> oranged, the one line that matters matches the DefaultDepth just above
[11:32] <manish> did any one know abt how to install VLC multimedia player? if yes then can any one tell me how to install it
[11:32] <mlucool> can anyone help me?
[11:32] <nickrud> oranged, add /var/log/Xorg.0.log to that list I gave you.
[11:33] <JeevesBond> Evening all. I've made a bit of a c*ck up ;)
[11:33] <samuli> manish, sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:33] <martin__> Hi there! Has anybody else ever had strange problems printing documents specifically with OpenOffice when the document is opened from a Gnome-VFS share? (OO won't print anything at all in that cause, but print flawlessly when the same document is opened from the local HDD)
[11:33] <nickrud> oranged, and put xorg.conf and the log in separate pages, please :)
[11:33] <mlucool> I just downloaded the new version and I tried to install a lamp server. After it detects my hardware just shows a plain blue screen and then does nothing. Is this a bug with the new version or how to I make it work?
[11:34] <oranged> nickrud, i have no idea what pastebin is. ;)
[11:34] <nickrud> !pastebin
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[11:34] <JeevesBond> I permanently deleted some stuff (without fully realising what would happen), how might I get these packages back into the list so I can download them again?
[11:34] <nickrud> oranged, it's a text sharing website
[11:34] <manish> samuli : thnx.. one one thing.... in my mplayer i m not getting full screen video so any suggestation
[11:34] <rambo3> mlucool, you can check ubuntu bug page
[11:34] <samuli> manish, never used that, but sounds odd.
[11:35] <rendo> When you setup MYSQL and Mediawiki do you need to do it as root or your user name?
[11:35] <xonic> what is hte code to edit the xorg file
[11:35] <samuli> manish, is it that you don't know how to get full screen or it wont work?
[11:35] <rambo3> i think root is user name
[11:35] <nickrud> oranged, a simple method is to open a file with gedit, and cut and paste.
[11:35] <Mysta_> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:35] <manish> samuli : it wont work..
[11:35] <scud> hmm
[11:35] <xonic> Mysta_: that just sees it noe edit
[11:36] <samuli> manish, might be something with the mplayer itself.. try vlc.
[11:36] <Mysta_> xonic: nope it edits
[11:36] <manish> samuli: ok thnx..
[11:36] <nickrud> oranged, things that are short that you've put in the terminal, you can left-drag the mouse across the text you want to copy, and use the middle mouse button (scrollwhell) to paste into a gedit window.
[11:36] <JeevesBond> Rendo: it depends on how you have Apache setup. Normally MySQL/PHP/Apache will work out of the box when you do an apt-get or whatever
[11:36] <xonic> yea but the hardest way to edit
[11:36] <xonic> but w/e
[11:36] <matt_> man this is hard, im so confusef
[11:36] <rendo> I see.
[11:36] <oranged> nickrud; i've got it.. you'll see it in a second
[11:36] <Mysta_> xonic: what do you want to edit?
[11:36] <xonic> xorg
[11:36] <xonic> it all doen by hte window
[11:36] <Mysta_> what about xorg
[11:36] <xonic> you can't just select where with the mouse
[11:37] <xonic> i need to add a line ot xorg
[11:37] <rambo3> i dont think so i tnik root needs to be setup for mysql
[11:37] <Mysta_> you want to alter xorg via a GUI?
[11:37] <scud> c/lear
[11:37] <xonic> no,nvm
[11:37] <xonic> i got it open
[11:37] <oranged> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15573
[11:37] <Mysta_> xonic: ok sounds good, you may want to look @ this http://www.cyskat.de/dee/progxorg.htm
[11:37] <JeevesBond> Oh hang on, you lot aren't lazy like me... I'm still using Synaptic for everything so was logged in as root to run that
[11:38] <samuli> JeevesBond: you _don't:_ need to log in as root to use synaptic.
[11:38] <rambo3> anyway there is wiki for lamp read it Ru something
[11:38] <samuli> and it's not a good idea to irc with root priviledges :/
[11:39] <JeevesBond> Well it asks me for my root password every time I start the thing?!!
[11:39] <samuli> JeevesBond: oh, okay. that's not the same as logging in as a root.
[11:39] <oranged> nickrud, the log is in a seperate page http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15574
[11:39] <thoreauputic> JeevesBond: no it asks for your user password
[11:39] <JeevesBond> samuli: Point taken :)
[11:41] <tga> yeah, wifi is toast in Dapper
[11:41] <tga> good thing it got delayed :\
[11:41] <nomin> can the breezy install cd be used to rescue an installation of breezy?
[11:41] <oranged> nickrud, i want to turn the refresh from 75hz to 60hz.. the gnome screen resolution dialogue only has 75hz as an option
[11:42] <awesometaylor> i'm lucky it works with my atheros card
[11:42] <JeevesBond> So, is it possible to get those packages that I _stupidly_ permanently deleted back into the list on Synaptic?
[11:42] <exhale> is there ANY way you can only install the base packages with the DESKTOP cd?
[11:42] <crimsun_> exhale: sure, you choose the 'server' option in the alternate install cd
[11:42] <rambo3> thats what the server is for
[11:42] <exhale> crimsun_, i dont have the alternative
[11:42] <exhale> i have the desktop
[11:43] <jvai> how's fluxbox w/ dapper? is it broken?
[11:43] <dust> i just installed the networkmanager, it has an error saying it couldn't find the glade file. i don't know what that is, can anyone help?
[11:43] <thoreauputic> jvai: no, it's OK on dapper
[11:43] <thoreauputic> jvai: it was broken on hoary and breezy
[11:44] <jvai> ok.. i kno it's broke on hoary which is what i'm using now
[11:44] <thoreauputic> jvai: I compiled mine for hoary and breezy :)
[11:44] <rambo3> use afterstep
[11:44] <AskHL> orange, you can do it with "dpkg-reconfigure SOMETHING" if I remember correctly, but are you seriously going to stare at a 60 Hz screen? I know I wouldn't want to.
[11:44] <enyc> update to dapper?
[11:44] <thoreauputic> jvai: the work around was --disable-xmb
[11:44] <kandinski> how do  find out which xorg version I am running?
[11:44] <AskHL> oranged, and I'll have to check which command is exactly the right one...
[11:44] <jvai> from the flux website? @ thore
[11:44] <matt_> ok so i did everything there, but now my music didappeared
[11:44] <thoreauputic> jvai: yes
[11:44] <krazykit> kandinski: if you're using dapper, you're using xorg7
[11:44] <jvai> ok.. @ thore
[11:45] <thoreauputic> jvai: the latest is 0.9.15 I think
[11:45] <jvai> ok thnx
[11:45] <oranged> AskHL, i've already ran dpkg reconfigure on xorg.. i setup the v and h refresh rates in xorg.conf
[11:45] <kandinski> krazykit: thanks
[11:45] <jvai> riight.. i was on the flux site last friday
[11:45] <thoreauputic> jvai: 0.9.14 -15 don't need the workaround
[11:45] <enyc> hrrm
[11:45] <jvai> oooh
[11:45] <AskHL> Right, xserver-xorg
[11:45] <enyc> ?does xubuntu use fluxbox?
[11:46] <crimsun_> Xfce
[11:46] <AskHL> oranged, doesn't it list a large number of resolutions and refresh rates?
[11:46] <enyc> aah
[11:46] <flicky> hi there! Does anyone know how to install palm T|E on Dapper?
[11:46] <enyc> drrrm
[11:46] <JeevesBond> enyc: It uses XFCE
[11:46] <thoreauputic> engla: no, xfce4
[11:46] <enyc> JeevesBond: kk
[11:46] <nickrud> oranged, just back. work called. I'll take a look
[11:46] <oranged> AskHL, nah i set the refresh ranges manually..
[11:46] <nickrud> but oranged why so low ;)
[11:47] <oranged> AskHL, 60hz is the optimum refresh for this monitor.. @75 darker colours flicker..
[11:47] <Stormx2> So much coursework to do :(
[11:47] <Ennei> Greats
[11:48] <Ennei> did anyone else try an Update Manager upgrade to 6.06 LTS?
[11:48] <nickrud> oranged, ah, an lcd
[11:48] <Troglodyt> Ennei, yes
[11:48] <AskHL> oranged, ahh, of course. Stupid me
[11:48] <Troglodyt> i did my laptop that way
[11:48] <flicky> ennei, yes
[11:48] <Ennei> was it fun?
[11:48] <Troglodyt> 106 minutes
[11:49] <Ennei> I tried that on a small form factor at work, I got an error message that didn't appear in Google
[11:49] <Ennei> so it didn't work
[11:49] <Troglodyt> i got no errors
[11:49] <NaKaTa> hello lil boys and girls
[11:49] <Troglodyt> it was smooth as silk
[11:49] <Ennei> tried it on my ThinkPad at home, it worked great,  but my system is very unstable now
[11:49] <darich> gah, I hate XGL/Compiz
[11:49] <darich> have tired multiple guides
[11:49] <Troglodyt> i really have no complaints about it
[11:49] <darich> and none of them work
[11:50] <Troglodyt> just one firefox extension that won't upgrade :)
[11:50] <isela_109> hi someone has configured a serial mouse on dapper?
[11:50] <Freq> Can I ask a question?
[11:50] <b14ck> i have a problem with my dvd rom i know it doesn't have to do with linux but i'm desperate and it's brand new and it can't read dvd. only cd
[11:50] <NickGarvey> Freq: thats what we are here for
[11:51] <JeevesBond> So anyone got any idea how to get back packages that have been permanently deleted in Synaptic?
[11:51] <redguy> !ask
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[11:51] <krazykit> JeevesBond: install it again.
[11:51] <rambo3> JeevesBond, reisntall them
[11:51] <Freq> To install Dapper I had to change the settings from VGA to 1024x768 otherwise the graphics would corrupt like NES games did sometimes
[11:51] <pqs> h
[11:51] <oranged> nickrud, i've even tried adding a modeline to xorg.conf specific for my monitor and i still don't get a 60hz option in that gnome screen rez dialogue
[11:51] <Freq> I'm having the same problem booting it, the graphics corrupt no matter what resolution or colour depth I try to forsce
[11:51] <Freq> force*
[11:51] <jvai> the graphs is nice on this
[11:52] <NickGarvey> Freq: does it happen when you boot the dapper live cd?
[11:52] <pqs> sorry the "h" was an error, just trying to understand irssi
[11:52] <pqs> ;-)
[11:52] <JeevesBond> I think it won't let me, it believes they don't exist
[11:52] <Freq> On the live CD I have to hit F4 to change it from VGA to 1024 or whatever
[11:52] <oranged> pqs, irssi is nice.
[11:52] <Freq> otherwise it corrupts
[11:52] <Freq> I also wasn't getting a cursor when I did that
[11:52] <Freq> But the mouse still worked
[11:53] <crashmatrix> UBUNTU FAIL IT
[11:53] <oranged> awesome
[11:53] <Freq> I used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and I also manually edited xorg.conf, and I couldn't get anything out of it
[11:54] <dust> what is a glade file?
[11:54] <Ennei> read about "glade" on the web
[11:54] <Ennei> Web*
[11:54] <Ennei> laters
[11:54] <nickrud> oranged, I'm looking at your xorg log, and I'm amazed I can't find any info on the monitor there. Could you try sudo ddcprobe in a terminal, and paste the output? (I'm really interested in the end, the rates)
[11:55] <drange> need help: Cant
[11:55] <drange> ehm
[11:55] <odat> hi everyone
[11:55] <odat> anyone familiar with xine?
[11:55] <drange> can't activate my wireless network card with txpower
[11:55] <drange> ipw2200
[11:56] <oranged> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15575
[11:56] <odat> anyone familiar with xine?
[11:56] <amortvigil> i just installed kDE but i only got a few programs i still see only gnome:S
[11:56] <nickrud> oranged, ok, that's better.
[11:56] <thenerds1ngle> is there any relatively easy way to turn a debian box into an ubuntu one?
[11:57] <thenerds1ngle> can it just be done by changing sources.list?
[11:57] <drange> thenerds1ngle: download the live-CD
[11:57] <matt_> my partition isn't in the editor
[11:57] <oranged> nickrud, the monitor is capable of 1280x1024@75Hz.. but i need to run at 1280x1024@60Hz. :)
[11:57] <JeevesBond> Oh well, seems I've really screwed things up here. Thanks for the help guys!
[11:57] <thoreauputic> thenerds1ngle: not since warty ( 4.10)
[11:57] <nickrud> oranged, you' want the 1280x1024@60?
[11:57] <odat> are the w32 codecs and libxine extracodecs the same thing
[11:57] <oranged> nickrud, yep. :)
[11:57] <nickrud> oh, readback
[11:57] <thoreauputic> odat: no
[11:57] <Tobberoth> I want 60hz too! my monitor is locked at 75
[11:57] <odat> thoreauputic, whats the difference
[11:58] <thoreauputic> odat: you probably want both
[11:58] <dust> what glade packages does networkmanager use?
[11:58] <thoreauputic> odat: w32codecs is a collection of windows dlls IIRC
[11:59] <nickrud> oranged, as a first simple try, set the depth 24 in the resolution settings to only 1280x1024/60 , and log out, hit ctl-alt-backspace and check: does the login screen have the right display?
[11:59] <oranged> nickrud, you mean switch it up in the gnome resolution settings?
[12:00] <nickrud> oranged, no, xorg. If we get the login screen right, we'll do gnome next