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nixternal | \sh: installed psi to check it out and have my gmail account setup. not to shabby. one thing i notice is that the jabber account doesn't always disconnect. | 01:16 |
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\sh | nixternal: for me it's much better then kopete.. | 01:17 |
nixternal | i have kopete running because people still use msn, aim, yahoo, and icq and tend to message me via those for support | 01:18 |
\sh | I just found out, that kopetes service discovery is not working with my jabber server...need to check later why it doesn't but any other jabber client does work | 01:18 |
nixternal | my biggest issue with kopete is it always tells me i have mail in my yahoo, aim, msn accounts, which i could care less because i don't use those for email | 01:19 |
\sh | nixternal: can't you disable those notifications in kopete? | 01:19 |
nixternal | i haven't found out where | 01:20 |
nixternal | im using ver .11 also | 01:20 |
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Riddell | mornfall: where's the default kde settings kept in fedora? | 02:24 |
Riddell | and how do I configure the network? | 02:24 |
Riddell | and how do I stop add/remove programmes from quitting with an error message as soon as it launches | 02:25 |
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\sh | kbilliards uploaded to revu | 02:32 |
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\sh | if someone wants to revu..http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2406 another nice kde game :) | 02:38 |
mornfall | Riddell: i don't use add/remove programs | 02:47 |
mornfall | Riddell: network, anaconda should have asked (dhcp works fine), but there should be gnome-network-manager around | 02:48 |
mornfall | Riddell: kde settings is probably kept under /usr/share (like in upstream kde) | 02:48 |
mornfall | some stuff under /etc/xdg | 02:48 |
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nixternal | \sh: is your server available for jabber connection? | 03:13 |
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\sh | nixternal: yes | 03:15 |
bddebian | Heya folks | 03:15 |
Riddell | hi bddebian | 03:16 |
\sh | nixternal: but jabber.kubuntu.de lacks of some very special dns entries, so it can be troublesome with google talk | 03:16 |
bddebian | Heya Riddell | 03:16 |
Riddell | we need a low disk indicator in KDE | 03:16 |
Riddell | I've decided :) | 03:16 |
bddebian | heh | 03:17 |
\sh | what is a low disk indicator? | 03:17 |
bddebian | Tells you when disk space is low? | 03:17 |
Riddell | a popup that says "your home directory is 95% full" | 03:17 |
\sh | you mean when 199GB from 200GB are used, it should make a warning sound ? ;) | 03:17 |
Riddell | "do you want me to rm -rf /home?" | 03:18 |
\sh | lol | 03:18 |
bddebian | Riddell: ;-P | 03:18 |
\sh | Riddell: did you catch my words from yesterdays morning? | 03:19 |
Riddell | \sh: which ones were they? | 03:19 |
\sh | about LP integration and kde? | 03:19 |
Riddell | oh yes | 03:19 |
Riddell | the difficult part is finding out which package the program belongs to | 03:19 |
Riddell | although dpkg -S could help with that | 03:19 |
\sh | the problem is more to catch the program itself, because it's started via kdeinit or something like that | 03:20 |
Riddell | kdeinit keeps itself pretty quiet these days | 03:20 |
\sh | then it can be an easy task...forget patching all sources to include this additional KHelpMenu hook | 03:21 |
Riddell | just kdelibs needs modified to have an extra entry in the standard help menu | 03:21 |
\sh | Riddell: you don't patch kdelibs | 03:21 |
Riddell | that entry works out the binary name, runs dpkg -S to work out the package name then kfmexec to fire up konqueror | 03:22 |
Riddell | why not? | 03:22 |
\sh | Riddell: you add this functionality to liblaunchpad-integration0 | 03:22 |
Riddell | why? | 03:22 |
\sh | Riddell: because gnome is doing it like this.. | 03:22 |
Riddell | sounds like an extra bit of complexity to me | 03:22 |
\sh | Riddell: and we have a lib which can generate some python lib foo for guidance | 03:22 |
\sh | Riddell: no.. | 03:22 |
\sh | Riddell: lpIntegration->addTo(menuBar()->getHelpMenu()) PSEUDOCODE ;) | 03:23 |
mornfall | \sh: wouldn't that mean that liblaunchpad-integration0 links with qt, kdecore and kdeui all of sudden? :p | 03:25 |
mornfall | well unless you do dlopen foo | 03:25 |
mornfall | which doesn't quite work anyway | 03:25 |
mornfall | so you better don't | 03:25 |
\sh | mornfall: no...we do something like liblaunchpad-integration0-{gnome,kde} | 03:25 |
mornfall | that's sort of... complicated | 03:26 |
\sh | mornfall: why? if something is wrong inside lp integration, we only need to fix and recompile a small bit of code, instead of compiling the whole bunch of kdelibs | 03:27 |
mornfall | true, dat | 03:27 |
mornfall | but i would certainly put it in a different source packages (kde and gnome versions) | 03:27 |
\sh | and we can provide simple kde python bindings for that | 03:27 |
Riddell | you'd then need to patch kdelibs to link against liblaunchpad-integration0-kde | 03:28 |
Riddell | and we have no python programmes that need it, guidance is only in system settings by default | 03:28 |
mornfall | Riddell: the idea is that while you develop the liblaunchpad thing, you don't need to recompile kdelibs | 03:28 |
mornfall | which is sort of nice | 03:28 |
\sh | Riddell: question is, if we need to link kdelibs to lp integration at all...it could be hooked on app level | 03:28 |
mornfall | but not sure it's worth a source package | 03:28 |
mornfall | \sh: that way lies madness | 03:29 |
\sh | mornfall: we already have a source package | 03:29 |
mornfall | this ain't no gnome | 03:29 |
mornfall | \sh: you do? a kde specific one? | 03:29 |
mornfall | or you intend to require gnome dev packs to build it? :p | 03:29 |
mornfall | anyhow | 03:29 |
mornfall | bedtime for me | 03:30 |
\sh | mornfall: no a gnome one...and there it's very ubuntu specific ... the deps of gnome and kde are only included via build time, the rest is just like ubiquity | 03:30 |
mornfall | exam tomorrow 10am | 03:30 |
mornfall | bye | 03:30 |
\sh | mornfall: good luck :) | 03:30 |
Riddell | I think I'd like to avoid the gnome route of patching every single app that we want to add "Get help online" to | 03:53 |
bddebian | wuss :-) | 03:53 |
\sh | Riddell: if we find a good possibility to not break python-kde then it's ok for me to include it into kdelibs | 03:55 |
Riddell | python-kde also uses kdelibs for its Help menu | 03:56 |
\sh | yes but every add to the classes needs to be represented in python-kdes sip code | 03:57 |
Riddell | it wouldn't be an ABI/API change obviously | 03:58 |
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\sh | Riddell: how would you present such a change? | 03:59 |
\sh | adding 2 items with insertItem is easy, clicking on them it will generate some signals and we need slots, therefor we have 2 public/private/protected slots | 04:00 |
\sh | well insertItem is not right, adding two new actions to actionCollection is better | 04:00 |
\sh | but still we have two new slots at least for doing some action :) | 04:01 |
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nixternal | Hobbsee: you snuck in here and I didn't even see you ;) | 06:56 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: i've been in here fo ra while... | 06:59 |
nixternal | hehe i see | 06:59 |
nixternal | hey..you running kopete .12? | 06:59 |
Hobbsee | yes | 06:59 |
nixternal | you have adept telling you to update? | 06:59 |
Hobbsee | no, i grabbed freeflying|away's third package | 06:59 |
nixternal | ahhh | 07:00 |
crimsun_ | what's the version for his third package? | 07:00 |
crimsun_ | and did jr settle on a plan for the transition for 0.12? | 07:00 |
nixternal | i need one that will stop adept from wanting to downgrade me..i grabbed a .deb from the forums and it is annoying to see adept icon in kicker | 07:00 |
Hobbsee | http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/packages/ | 07:01 |
Hobbsee | why oh why did you grab a deb from the forums? | 07:01 |
Hobbsee | crimsun_: i'm not sure | 07:01 |
nixternal | cuz im an e.tard | 07:01 |
Hobbsee | so it seems. | 07:01 |
crimsun_ | Hobbsee: apt-cache policy kopete |grep Candidate | 07:02 |
Hobbsee | Candidate: 4:3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1 | 07:02 |
Hobbsee | the .deb is probably made with checkinstall | 07:02 |
Hobbsee | that one is done decently | 07:02 |
Hobbsee | crimsun_: ^ | 07:04 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: use http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/packages/kopete_3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1_i386.deb | 07:04 |
nixternal | dl'n it now | 07:04 |
nixternal | thx | 07:04 |
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imbrandon_ | aww no _amd64.deb | 07:40 |
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crimsun_ | you have the sources, you have a pbuilder. Have at ti. | 07:40 |
crimsun_ | it^ | 07:40 |
imbrandon_ | ;) | 07:40 |
imbrandon_ | yea i was just thinking that | 07:40 |
imbrandon_ | actualy i dont have the source for kopete 0.12 but i can get it | 07:41 |
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crimsun_ | um | 07:42 |
crimsun_ | don't make me poke you with a sharp stick, imbrandon_ | 07:42 |
imbrandon_ | ?? | 07:42 |
crimsun_ | http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/packages/kopete_3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1.tar.gz | 07:42 |
imbrandon_ | gah | 07:42 |
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crimsun_ | that's nastily mispackaged as a native one | 07:42 |
crimsun_ | bonus points for fixing it and updating freeflying|away | 07:43 |
imbrandon_ | should i not use that src ? | 07:43 |
imbrandon_ | kk | 07:43 |
imbrandon_ | ;) | 07:43 |
crimsun_ | you can use that source | 07:43 |
imbrandon_ | crimsun_: shouldent it be 0.12.0.orig.tar.gz ? | 07:44 |
imbrandon_ | jez i get a lousy connection ( ~5k/sec ) to his server | 07:44 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: I'll repackage the source tarball, and upload them soon(to my repo) | 07:44 |
imbrandon_ | ok freeflying|away let me know and i'll pbuild it for you with _amd64 to stick up there or i'll add it to my repos | 07:45 |
imbrandon_ | either way | 07:45 |
imbrandon_ | is that on a cable modem or something ? | 07:46 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: that's a ubuntu archive mirror in Hongkong | 07:46 |
imbrandon_ | ahhh that explains it ;) | 07:46 |
imbrandon_ | if you want i can mirror your ~freeflying/packages on my usa server also if you desire | 07:47 |
imbrandon_ | i have a few other mirros on it including an mirror of the official servers | 07:48 |
imbrandon_ | wouldent be no biggie to setup a rsync cron | 07:48 |
freeflying | imbrandon: I'd like | 07:48 |
imbrandon_ | want me to set it up or would you just like a shell account ? | 07:49 |
freeflying | imbrandon: please set up it | 07:50 |
imbrandon_ | kk | 07:50 |
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freeflying | imbrandon: done | 07:59 |
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imbrandon_ | kk | 08:06 |
imbrandon_ | almost done setting up the mirror | 08:06 |
nixternal | don't break that mirror...7 years bad luck ;) | 08:06 |
nixternal | best KDE all around theme to date -> http://waku.info/2006/06/11/nautica-kde-theme/ | 08:09 |
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nixternal | lol | 08:12 |
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nixternal | i don't do anything with it except set it to static and thats it | 08:12 |
Hobbsee | figured i may as well troubleshoot it while dad's not home - so he cant go mental at me taking off the protection of the router :P | 08:13 |
nixternal | i do admit. i kind of favor the ubuntu wifi tools | 08:13 |
nixternal | i have been messing with ubuntu dapper for doc team...it isn't to shabby actually...but it just isn't kde ;) | 08:13 |
nixternal | and talk about install time being slow...no joke, i would say kubuntu installed twice as fast at least | 08:14 |
imbrandon_ | ok freeflying its mirrorsing now | 08:18 |
imbrandon_ | mirroring now, going slow becouse my server only gets a 10k/sec connection to your but its working ;) | 08:19 |
freeflying | imbrandon: nice, thanks | 08:19 |
imbrandon_ | np | 08:19 |
imbrandon_ | when its all done it will be at | 08:19 |
imbrandon_ | http://www.buntudot.org/people/~freeflying/packages/ | 08:19 |
imbrandon_ | but its still downloading | 08:19 |
freeflying | :) | 08:20 |
imbrandon_ | i'll set a crontab to make it check once a day for new stuff, good enough ? | 08:20 |
imbrandon_ | at say 00:00 UTC or something | 08:21 |
freeflying | imbrandon: one week is enough, | 08:22 |
imbrandon_ | ok | 08:23 |
imbrandon_ | got a specific day / time you like ? | 08:23 |
freeflying | imbrandon: Sunday's night | 08:23 |
imbrandon_ | kk | 08:24 |
freeflying | im | 08:24 |
freeflying | imbrandon: thanks | 08:24 |
imbrandon_ | not a problem ;) | 08:24 |
imbrandon_ | that should give us USA poeple a better connection to it anyhow, cuz i get a 10kb/sec connection ;( | 08:25 |
freeflying | imbrandon: the speed I upload to that server is about 100k/s, but only 20-30k/s for download :) | 08:26 |
imbrandon_ | ahh ;) | 08:26 |
imbrandon_ | i get about 300kb/sec download from my server not sure about the rest of the world but the us should be fast | 08:27 |
freeflying | imbrandon: 64 bytes from basic-jolly.gobstopper.dreamhost.com (208.97.140.180): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=198 ms | 08:28 |
freeflying | imbrandon: it's quite nice for me :) | 08:28 |
imbrandon_ | ;) | 08:28 |
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imbrandon_ | wb Hobbsee | 08:29 |
Hobbsee_ | heya | 08:29 |
imbrandon_ | freeflying: how big is that dir? just curious ..... i got plenty of room | 08:30 |
Hobbsee | off to work | 08:30 |
imbrandon_ | l8tr Hobbsee dont let the kiddos get to ya up at work ;) | 08:31 |
freeflying | imbrandon: 94M, please remove all VIM packages | 08:31 |
imbrandon_ | ok | 08:31 |
imbrandon_ | freeflying: every time or just this one ? | 08:31 |
Hobbsee | bleck, i'll have my nice warm black jacket on, so they wont try to do too much :D | 08:31 |
imbrandon_ | hehe | 08:31 |
freeflying | imbrandon: this one | 08:31 |
imbrandon_ | freeflying: ok | 08:31 |
imbrandon_ | btw if you need to catch me sometime about the mirror and i'm not on irc feel free to email me brandon@imbrandon.com and/or imbrandon@kubuntu.org | 08:33 |
freeflying | okey | 08:33 |
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imbrandon_ | after its done mirroring and i delete the vim* should i re-run genarchive.sh localy for ya ? | 08:39 |
freeflying | imbrandon: you'd do | 08:40 |
imbrandon_ | kk | 08:40 |
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imbrandon_ | kk freeflying|away all done mirroring | 09:50 |
imbrandon_ | and vim* deleted | 09:50 |
imbrandon_ | i dident run the genarchive though becouse its signed with your pgp key | 09:51 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: then there will be errors for using it as a archive | 09:54 |
imbrandon_ | yea | 09:58 |
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imbrandon_ | the only way is i can run it with my pgp key but then they would have to import that | 09:58 |
imbrandon_ | OR you can move out the | 09:59 |
imbrandon_ | vim* packages and rerun it on yours and send me the release files etc | 09:59 |
imbrandon_ | untill next update | 09:59 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon_: okey, do it now for you :) | 10:00 |
imbrandon_ | ok you want me to sign it ? | 10:00 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: up to you, I've removed all VIM's and re-scan all packages | 10:01 |
imbrandon_ | hey also i grabbed your orig.tar.gz and the diff.gz , after i unzip those how do i properly apply the diff ? | 10:01 |
imbrandon_ | yea that would be better | 10:01 |
imbrandon_ | for you to rescan the packages | 10:02 |
imbrandon_ | that way its still your key | 10:02 |
imbrandon_ | becouse someon might have imported it already etc | 10:02 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon_: also need dsc, and dpkg-source -x *.sac, the best way is use pbuilder | 10:02 |
imbrandon_ | sac ? | 10:03 |
freeflying|away | s/sac/asc | 10:03 |
imbrandon_ | kk | 10:03 |
imbrandon_ | brandon@birdofprey:~/files/kopete$ ls -la | 10:03 |
imbrandon_ | total 6828 | 10:03 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon_: if you have a ppc box, will be more nicer :) | 10:03 |
imbrandon_ | drwxr-xr-x 2 brandon brandon 4096 2006-06-12 02:53 . | 10:03 |
imbrandon_ | drwxr-xr-x 3 brandon brandon 4096 2006-06-12 02:54 .. | 10:03 |
imbrandon_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 brandon brandon 25111 2006-06-12 02:53 kopete_3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1.diff.gz | 10:03 |
imbrandon_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 brandon brandon 687 2006-06-12 02:53 kopete_3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1.dsc | 10:04 |
imbrandon_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 brandon brandon 1291 2006-06-12 02:52 kopete_3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1_source.build | 10:04 |
imbrandon_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 brandon brandon 6934456 2006-06-12 02:23 kopete_3.5.3kopete0.12.0.orig.tar.gz | 10:04 |
imbrandon_ | brandon@birdofprey:~/files/kopete$ | 10:04 |
imbrandon_ | whoops | 10:04 |
imbrandon_ | sorry | 10:04 |
imbrandon_ | yea i have a ppc but its SLOW hehehe | 10:04 |
imbrandon_ | i can build it on that too | 10:04 |
imbrandon_ | my ppc box is 233mhz ;) | 10:04 |
imbrandon_ | i have many i386 machines and one amd64 and one ppc ;) | 10:04 |
imbrandon_ | used to have a sparc but its gone, might get another one soon | 10:05 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: hehe, my is 1.33G, but lack of space | 10:05 |
imbrandon_ | ok freeflying|away i dont have any asc files | 10:06 |
imbrandon_ | in that dir | 10:06 |
imbrandon_ | see dir listing above | 10:06 |
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freeflying|away | imbrandon: sorry, it's dsc, not asc, my fault, silly me | 10:07 |
imbrandon_ | hehe np | 10:07 |
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imbrandon_ | hehe | 10:08 |
imbrandon_ | if i get the build-deps for kopete in the repos it should still work right>? | 10:09 |
imbrandon_ | or is there a way to get the build-deps automatic from the source | 10:09 |
freeflying|away | sudo apt-get build-dep kopete | 10:09 |
imbrandon_ | apt-get build-dep kopete | 10:09 |
imbrandon_ | yea | 10:09 |
imbrandon_ | just dident know if 0.12 had diffrent deps | 10:10 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: no specially, this package haven't jingle's support | 10:10 |
imbrandon_ | ok | 10:11 |
imbrandon_ | did you regen the files? if so i'll regrab them | 10:11 |
imbrandon_ | ( the release files and such ) | 10:11 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: done | 10:12 |
imbrandon_ | okie | 10:12 |
imbrandon_ | ok mirror updated and set to grab new files every sunday night at midnight UTC | 10:14 |
imbrandon_ | ;0 | 10:14 |
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imbrandon_ | freeflying|away, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/703970 | 10:30 |
imbrandon_ | FTB | 10:30 |
imbrandon_ | thats just the end of the buld log, i have the whole log is you want | 10:31 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: needn't, seemed something wrong about 64 | 10:33 |
imbrandon_ | yea, i'll keep looking into it, thought you might know right off, i'll try on ppc too | 10:34 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: send me the whole log, thanks zhengpeng-hou AT kubuntu.org | 10:37 |
imbrandon_ | freeflying|away: cant get to my email right now ( on other machine ) http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/misc/kopete_amd64_buildlog.txt | 10:46 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: another isuue, you'd disable jingle's support in debian/rules | 10:59 |
imbrandon_ | k | 11:01 |
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imbrandon_ | change it to this after disabling jingle ?? ---> kopete (4:3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1ubuntu2) dapper; urgency=low | 11:04 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: no, in debian/rules, remove the enable-jingle in configure target | 11:05 |
imbrandon_ | yea i got that | 11:06 |
imbrandon_ | but should i inc the version also ? | 11:06 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: needn't | 11:06 |
imbrandon_ | k | 11:06 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: we can not support the jingle now, it need a special version of ortp | 11:07 |
imbrandon_ | ok disabled it and trying to build again | 11:07 |
imbrandon_ | argg | 11:49 |
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imbrandon_ | YAY ! | 12:42 |
imbrandon_ | freeflying-g4: got it to build on AMD64 | 12:42 |
freeflying-g4 | imbrandon: cool | 12:43 |
imbrandon_ | you want a diff ? | 12:44 |
imbrandon_ | actualy you can change just one thing in the debian/rules | 12:44 |
imbrandon_ | and it will build fine on amd64 | 12:44 |
freeflying-g4 | imbrandon: what | 12:44 |
imbrandon_ | +- CFLAGS = -Wall -g | 12:45 |
imbrandon_ | ++ CFLAGS = -Wall -g -fPIC | 12:45 |
imbrandon_ | need's -fPIC to compile on amd64 | 12:46 |
freeflying-g4 | imbrandon: I've add this,but have no amd64 for test :) | 12:46 |
imbrandon_ | i'll put my build in my own repos so others can test also | 12:46 |
imbrandon_ | its exactly the same as your other than that | 12:46 |
freeflying-g4 | imbrandon: nice, I'll tell others sync from your site | 12:47 |
imbrandon_ | kk i got to sign it etc one sec | 12:47 |
imbrandon_ | and i'll give you the url | 12:47 |
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imbrandon_ | freeflying|away: ping ! | 01:17 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: pong | 01:17 |
imbrandon_ | heh | 01:17 |
imbrandon_ | http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ | 01:17 |
imbrandon_ | and http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/pubkey.html <--- for my gpg key | 01:18 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: got it.thx | 01:18 |
imbrandon_ | i'll do a ppc one here in a little bit | 01:19 |
freeflying|away | great, I'd correct the rules, for build on all arch | 01:19 |
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freeflying|away | imbrandon: ping | 01:34 |
Hobbsee | boo! | 01:35 |
imbrandon_ | sup | 01:35 |
imbrandon_ | heya Hobbsee | 01:35 |
imbrandon_ | i changed the arch to all and am building the i386 / amd64 / and ppc over | 01:36 |
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imbrandon_ | freeflying|away: pong | 01:37 |
Hobbsee | not much of interest. darn. | 01:39 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon_: are you using pbuilder? or chroot for kopete | 01:44 |
imbrandon_ | chroot | 01:45 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon_: and you using kde-3.5.3 | 01:45 |
imbrandon_ | yup | 01:46 |
imbrandon_ | Sysinfo for 'birdofprey': Linux 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3400+ at 1002 MHz (2006 bogomips), HD: 26/141GB, RAM: 683/687MB, 131 proc's, 7.17h up | 01:46 |
imbrandon_ | 3.5.3 in chroot too | 01:47 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon_: you'd setup a pbuilder, and build just against kde-3.5.2, or others will have problems with it | 01:47 |
imbrandon_ | ouch , ok | 01:48 |
imbrandon_ | i'm rebuilding them anyhow i can do that | 01:48 |
imbrandon_ | i already have a chroot for 3.5.2 also i'll just use that | 01:48 |
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imbrandon_ | hehe | 01:48 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon_: nice | 01:48 |
Hobbsee | wow | 01:49 |
imbrandon_ | ? | 01:49 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon_: recommend using pbuilder | 01:50 |
imbrandon_ | ahh ok i'll try it, hard to setup ? | 01:50 |
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Hobbsee | guess it is, in the chroot | 01:50 |
Hobbsee | but if you install stuff in the chroot, dont you have to clear all that you installed before the next time you use it? | 01:50 |
imbrandon_ | Hobbsee: i use clean chroot's ;) | 01:51 |
Hobbsee | mmm okay | 01:51 |
imbrandon_ | ok whats the commandline options to build with pbuilder properly ? | 01:55 |
imbrandon_ | against 3.5.2 | 01:56 |
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imbrandon_ | ;) | 01:56 |
imbrandon_ | freeflying|away: ping | 01:57 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon_: pong | 01:57 |
imbrandon_ | ok whats the commandline options to build with pbuilder properly ? | 01:57 |
imbrandon_ | against 3.5.2 | 01:57 |
imbrandon_ | pbuilder debuild ? | 01:58 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PbuilderHowto?highlight=%28pbuilder%29 | 01:58 |
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imbrandon_ | brb | 02:26 |
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imbrandon | .. | 02:34 |
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imbrandon | kk freeflying|away i got it rebuilding with pbuilder on i386 and amd64 and ppc , i'll update my repos when i wake up in a few hours ( should be done building by then ) | 02:36 |
imbrandon | gnight freeflying|away / Hobbsee | 02:36 |
freeflying|away | imbrandon: gnite | 02:37 |
imbrandon | well nap time not gnight hehe for a few hours atleaaste | 02:37 |
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Hobbsee | night imbrandon | 02:43 |
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jsgotangco | good evening | 02:47 |
jjesse | hello jsgotangco | 02:47 |
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\sh | re | 02:56 |
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kwwii | so here is a question for everyone | 03:08 |
jjesse | ok :) | 03:09 |
kwwii | the ubuntu artwork team has made a list of goals for edgy, and on it, it says that kubuntu should use the same icons as gnome and a similar style | 03:09 |
kwwii | is the kubuntu community interested in that? | 03:09 |
kwwii | because I am not | 03:09 |
\sh | me neither | 03:09 |
jjesse | i like the difference | 03:10 |
Lure | kwwii: brown KDE? not really... :-( | 03:10 |
Hobbsee | kwwii: that'd help if we actually had a pic of theirs...but no, i seem to remember wanting to get their icons off the screen as quickly as possible. | 03:10 |
Hobbsee | no, but i would like a green or a purple | 03:10 |
freeflying-g4 | we'd have kubuntu's | 03:10 |
Hobbsee | a purple would look really cool :P or maybe a maroon colour, if they wanted to stay brown | 03:10 |
Hobbsee | mmmm.. | 03:10 |
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kwwii | Hobbsee: I have thought a lot about using purple recently | 03:11 |
\sh | the problem is, if we do some orange/brownish thing, we would fck away the hardcore kde users | 03:11 |
Hobbsee | kwwii: that'd be cool :) | 03:11 |
kwwii | it is a nice segway from blue to another color | 03:11 |
Hobbsee | gentoo's always had compliments over it's purple | 03:11 |
kwwii | ;-) | 03:11 |
kwwii | my first three years or so at suse everything was purple | 03:11 |
Hobbsee | nice! | 03:11 |
kwwii | and then I changed it to green | 03:11 |
Hobbsee | anyone got the current icons for gnome? | 03:11 |
kwwii | just check tango with the special icons...erm tangerine or so | 03:12 |
Hobbsee | kwwii: i'd love to see the oxygen icons for edgy - the done ones, of course, and the rest as crystal - depending on how that looked | 03:12 |
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\sh | Hobbsee: awful ;) | 03:12 |
\sh | moins kwwii BTW | 03:13 |
kwwii | howdy \sh | 03:13 |
\sh | Hobbsee: no ways to mix crystal with oxygene... | 03:13 |
kwwii | I hope that oxygen will be become mature very quickly | 03:13 |
Hobbsee | oh okay... | 03:13 |
kwwii | we have actually done a lot of work in a short itme | 03:14 |
kwwii | time | 03:14 |
\sh | I'm not the graphics guy, but I think kwwii agrees with me somehow ;) | 03:14 |
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kwwii | for now, until oxygen is complete enough to use on it's own,it has to be used with crystal | 03:14 |
kwwii | better that than tango | 03:14 |
kwwii | anyway...back to the football game | 03:14 |
Hobbsee | haha | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | football's overrated | 03:15 |
jsgotangco | ! | 03:16 |
jsgotangco | hey we only go crazy over it every 4 years | 03:16 |
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jjesse | football is over silly europeans, football is in the fall :) | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | yay! i have an ally! | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | greetings oh great Riddell | 03:17 |
jjesse | good morning Riddell | 03:17 |
jjesse | i copied you in on a message from Mario that i didn't know how to anser | 03:18 |
Riddell | tragically I do have to go back to England before the end of the world cup | 03:18 |
freeflying-g4 | seems Japan will lost | 03:18 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: what do you think of a purple desktop? :P | 03:18 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: where are you now? | 03:18 |
\sh | Riddell: where are you now? | 03:18 |
jsgotangco | last night i was idling in a yahoo chat room that covered iran vs. mexico and people were screaming for blood lol | 03:18 |
Riddell | Scotland. a country who's closes world cup representation is Trinidad and Tobago | 03:18 |
jjesse | didn't i hear that the iranian leader banned the world cup from being shown | 03:18 |
Riddell | closest | 03:18 |
Hobbsee | hehe nice | 03:19 |
Riddell | purple could be fun | 03:19 |
\sh | Riddell: oh I thought you traveled to paris already ;) | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | :D | 03:19 |
Riddell | \sh: wednesday night | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | kwwii: i think you'll get your chance to work in purple :D | 03:19 |
jsgotangco | jjesse: that's baloney, iran is a football power in asia | 03:19 |
jjesse | jsgotangco: just thought i read something in my local sunday paper about how the hardline iranian government was banning people from watching the world cup, but i've been wrong once or twice before | 03:20 |
\sh | oh my ... yum is broken...very much broken | 03:21 |
Riddell | \sh: fedora is broken | 03:22 |
\sh | Riddell: I'm using yum 2.6.1 on sles9 ... I needed a better packagemanager then yast | 03:23 |
\sh | but yum tells me, that he wants to install jboss 3.0.x i586 and jboss 4.0.x x86_64 on amd64 ..which is totally wrong.. | 03:24 |
Riddell | \sh: try smart | 03:24 |
\sh | Riddell: after I fininshed the first milestone of this project, I switch to smart | 03:25 |
\sh | Riddell: but until then, I have to stay with yum | 03:25 |
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\sh | where was the smart packagemanager homepage? | 03:48 |
Riddell | http://labix.org/smart | 03:49 |
jsgotangco | smart rocks | 03:50 |
jsgotangco | although at first glance the gui option just looks like synaptic | 03:50 |
freeflying-g4 | \sh: mvo has uploaded smart | 03:52 |
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bddebian | Hello | 04:07 |
apokryphos | yeah, the GUI is a lot like it (author of smart used to co-maintain it) unfortunately. Still waiting on the KDE/Qt frontend :P | 04:09 |
apokryphos | does anyone know if there's been any advance on the talk of smart in edgy? | 04:11 |
apokryphos | is it thought of being a replacement to apt, or just a supplementary option? | 04:11 |
Riddell | it might be used in gnome-app-install | 04:12 |
Riddell | it won't replace apt generally | 04:12 |
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apokryphos | interesting; any reason why just gnome-app-install? | 04:14 |
jsgotangco | its not supposed to replace existing package managers | 04:19 |
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Hobbsee | freeflying-g4: ping | 05:28 |
freeflying-g4 | Hobbsee: pong | 05:28 |
Hobbsee | freeflying-g4: see http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete%20Webcam%20Support <-- looks like we have jasper stuff in the repos, but not added as a dep/build-dep, however we need them for kopete | 05:29 |
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freeflying-g4 | Hobbsee: jingle need special ortp, but dapper's is newer than it need, so I don't know how to solve this | 05:30 |
Hobbsee | freeflying-g4: er, in english? | 05:30 |
Hobbsee | better still, halt that, and tell me tomorrow, or in an email, or a memo if you wish... | 05:32 |
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Hobbsee | hey jpatrick | 05:32 |
jpatrick | hey Hobbsee | 05:32 |
freeflying-g4 | Hobbsee: silly me, I thought you mean jingle, :) I'm still in the football match | 05:33 |
Hobbsee | freeflying-g4: haha no - yahoo webcam support | 05:33 |
Hobbsee | receiving them | 05:33 |
Hobbsee | havent tried jingle - i dont have a mic handy | 05:34 |
freeflying-g4 | Hobbsee: I will mail you later, I'd watch the coming match :) | 05:34 |
Hobbsee | okay...hehe | 05:34 |
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jpatrick | Hobbsee: well Australia won | 05:34 |
Hobbsee | oh good | 05:34 |
Hobbsee | i think i heard that earlier :P | 05:35 |
jpatrick | :P | 05:35 |
freeflying-g4 | Hobbsee: a girl here has compiled kopete, but can not make webcam work | 05:35 |
jpatrick | Damn, goldenear isn't here | 05:35 |
Hobbsee | goldenear_away: is a girl? wow. cool. | 05:35 |
Hobbsee | i'd try with thatas either a dep or a build-dep | 05:35 |
freeflying-g4 | Hobbsee: I mean in #ubuntu-cn :) | 05:36 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: isn't that what you should never say to someone on IRC? :) | 05:36 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: haha - it's different if you're a female yourself, and therefore not about to hit on her | 05:36 |
Riddell | ah, yes | 05:37 |
Hobbsee | not that...not that you guys would necessarily do that anyway, but there's still the threat of it... | 05:37 |
Hobbsee | oh i dont know - i'm being paranoid again dammit! | 05:37 |
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Hobbsee | hey Lure | 05:40 |
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Hobbsee | night all - i thikn i'm actually properly leaving this time | 05:42 |
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goldenear | jpatrick: I'm here now | 06:32 |
goldenear | and btw, I'm not a girl | 06:32 |
jpatrick | goldenear: ok, kmplayer died again | 06:33 |
goldenear | what do you mean ? | 06:33 |
jpatrick | It can't do streams | 06:33 |
goldenear | ??? | 06:34 |
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jpatrick | goldenear: like: http://videocodezone.com/videos/r/red_hot_chili_peppers/around_the_world-2.html | 06:36 |
jpatrick | goldenear: but I can play local videos | 06:37 |
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goldenear | jpatrick: it plays for me | 06:47 |
jpatrick | not me tho | 06:47 |
goldenear | but need many time to start | 06:47 |
DaSkreech | Riddell: Morning | 06:47 |
Riddell | hi DaSkreech | 06:47 |
DaSkreech | Riddell: did you get to overhear my GIS discussion? | 06:48 |
Riddell | don't think so | 06:48 |
DaSkreech | Ok :-( | 06:49 |
DaSkreech | Well then the shoort question is if I have a Potentially Awesome Idea (c) wouldit make sense tomail sabdfl? | 06:49 |
Riddell | DaSkreech: better to write a spec | 06:50 |
Riddell | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+addspec | 06:50 |
Riddell | add to paris meeting | 06:50 |
DaSkreech | I'ts much longer term than that | 06:55 |
DaSkreech | But okie :) | 06:55 |
MidMark | Riddell: is there a chance to make kubuntu preinstalled in some laptop? I mean contacting some vendors and ask them... sorry for this atipic question | 06:55 |
Riddell | MidMark: a couple already do, see kubunturg/ship.php | 06:56 |
Riddell | kubuntu.org/ship.php | 06:56 |
MidMark | Riddell: 404 | 06:57 |
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Riddell | shop.php | 06:57 |
Riddell | it's linked from the front page :) | 06:57 |
MidMark | shops.php :) | 06:58 |
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MidMark | great works, but I mean a completely new line from Asus, Acer or vendor like that, that include Kubuntu instead of win | 06:59 |
jpatrick | Riddell: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#installfromubuntu should point to the wiki page | 07:00 |
toma | i | 07:01 |
jpatrick | and shouldn't the source cds point to the dapper ones? | 07:01 |
jjesse | Riddell: just sent you an email | 07:07 |
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DaSkreech | ops! | 08:14 |
DaSkreech | Need a quick kick ban | 08:14 |
Riddell | done | 08:15 |
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DaSkreech | Thanks | 08:20 |
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apachelogger | ahoy Riddell, are you around? | 08:49 |
jpatrick | I think he left "[20:23] pradeepto: if you're quick" | 08:50 |
DaSkreech | Anyone familar with specs? | 08:56 |
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Tonio_ | hey | 08:59 |
DaSkreech | hi | 08:59 |
DaSkreech | Do I have to do a wiki page before I do the spec? | 08:59 |
Lure | DaSkreech: I think so | 09:04 |
DaSkreech | Hmm Ok | 09:04 |
DaSkreech | It's BrainDump? | 09:04 |
Lure | yes, unless you will draft it already (implementation and stuff) | 09:04 |
DaSkreech | Well I have a rough idea | 09:07 |
DaSkreech | been owrking on it for about a year | 09:07 |
DaSkreech | It's kinda huge though | 09:07 |
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DaSkreech | wiki.kubuntu.org? | 09:09 |
DaSkreech | Though it's not realyl KDE specific | 09:10 |
DaSkreech | I hope | 09:10 |
DaSkreech | really | 09:10 |
lnxKDE | someone using KDE 4.0 svn? | 09:11 |
DaSkreech | lnxKDE: You really need to be in #kde | 09:12 |
lnxKDE | k | 09:13 |
Riddell | apachelogger: hi | 09:13 |
toma | lnxKDE: that would surprise me | 09:13 |
apachelogger | Riddell: do you know the status quo of kopete packaging for dapper? | 09:14 |
DaSkreech | Think he's gone | 09:14 |
DaSkreech | apachelogger: Last I spoke to him on that he said that he wasn't doing it and no one had stepped up to offer | 09:15 |
DaSkreech | Not sure if that's changed | 09:15 |
apachelogger | hm | 09:15 |
Riddell | apachelogger: freeflying and imbrandon were looking at it last | 09:16 |
apachelogger | hm | 09:16 |
DaSkreech | yay! | 09:16 |
apachelogger | only problem is version imo | 09:16 |
DaSkreech | Riddell: Do i have to have a Wiki page for the spec? | 09:16 |
DaSkreech | does it matter if it's wiki.kubuntu or ubuntu.org? | 09:17 |
Riddell | DaSkreech: they're the same wiki | 09:20 |
DaSkreech | Right so just make a pagethen | 09:20 |
apachelogger | Riddell: could use "4:3.5.3+kopete0.12.0-0ubuntu1" as version? | 09:25 |
Riddell | apachelogger: yes | 09:26 |
apachelogger | k, gonna do a try :) | 09:26 |
toma | anyone interested in beta testing rsibreak 0.7.0? | 09:41 |
jpatrick | toma: Not Repetitive strain injury, (my only fear as guitarist) | 09:42 |
toma | jpatrick: sorry? | 09:43 |
jpatrick | [[RSI] ] | 09:43 |
toma | right, its an app to prevent it | 09:44 |
Lure | toma: yes | 09:45 |
toma | ok, i'll package it | 09:45 |
apachelogger | Riddell: shall I put it in revu when I'm done? | 09:47 |
Riddell | apachelogger: if you want, you should talk to freeflying and imbrandon to see what they've done | 09:49 |
apachelogger | k | 09:49 |
apachelogger | imbrandon: ping | 09:49 |
DaSkreech | I heard about it | 09:51 |
DaSkreech | it bugs you to stop using the computer and get a life? | 09:51 |
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imbrandon | apachelogger: pong | 09:52 |
apachelogger | imbrandon: could you upload your work on kopete 0.12 somewhere? | 09:52 |
apachelogger | I try to do a final package | 09:53 |
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imbrandon | already have , and its merged with freeflying | 09:53 |
imbrandon | one sec | 09:53 |
apachelogger | ah | 09:53 |
allee | hi | 09:53 |
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apachelogger | hi allee | 09:53 |
imbrandon | http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ | 09:53 |
imbrandon | ^^ there ya go apachelogger | 09:54 |
apachelogger | thx | 09:54 |
imbrandon | that has freeflying and my changes | 09:54 |
DaSkreech | imbrandon: What changes are made? | 09:55 |
jpatrick | imbrandon: 3.5.3_* isn't going to work, afaik | 09:55 |
apachelogger | maybe I can still add something ;-) | 09:55 |
imbrandon | jpatrick: yea i know that was what freeflying already had i just rebuilt it for him fixing amd64 FTB | 09:55 |
imbrandon | apachelogger: i'm gone for about 1 hour afk, ping me if you need something | 09:58 |
apachelogger | k | 09:58 |
DaSkreech | apachelogger: What changes need to be made? | 10:02 |
apachelogger | hm | 10:03 |
apachelogger | everything :P | 10:03 |
apachelogger | if we wanna publish it @ kubuntu.org | 10:03 |
DaSkreech | Right. Is there a doc for what the packages must conform to? | 10:03 |
apachelogger | various | 10:04 |
apachelogger | somewhere in the wiki | 10:04 |
DaSkreech | :-) | 10:04 |
apachelogger | hidden places ;-) | 10:04 |
DaSkreech | ok | 10:04 |
apachelogger | noone ever knows all ;-) | 10:04 |
jpatrick | DaSkreech: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ | 10:05 |
apachelogger | imbrandon: why disable jingles support? | 10:05 |
DaSkreech | I'll get right on reading that and building an ark | 10:06 |
DaSkreech | See which gets done first | 10:06 |
apachelogger | ;-) | 10:07 |
DaSkreech | Thats a huge doc | 10:07 |
toma | Lure, jpatrick: http://rsibeta.omat.nl/ toughly packaged for now | 10:11 |
Lure | toma: downloading | 10:12 |
jpatrick | toma: is that a native package? | 10:12 |
toma | Lure, jpatrick: I would appreciate a test of the 'break at fixed time' option | 10:12 |
toma | jpatrick: whats that? | 10:12 |
jpatrick | toma: no .diff.gz | 10:13 |
toma | ow, i can put it there, hang on | 10:13 |
jpatrick | nor a .orig.tar.gz | 10:13 |
jpatrick | toma: rsibreak depends on kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.3); however | 10:14 |
Lure | toma: what is "break at fixed time"? | 10:14 |
apachelogger | eeeh, pbuilder to use :) | 10:14 |
toma | jpatrick: named the orig wrongly, so no diff | 10:14 |
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toma | jpatrick: as i said. roughly packages, i hope to convince allee for the final one | 10:15 |
toma | Lure: it does not take into account the time you are idle | 10:17 |
allee | toma: np ;) | 10:17 |
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Lure | toma: I like new shadded background, but notify window seems to be just black rectangle... | 10:26 |
Lure | toma: and yes, moving mouse works during quite time... | 10:27 |
toma | Lure: notify window black? | 10:27 |
toma | Lure: what do you mean by that? | 10:27 |
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Lure | toma: I have panel on top and when break happens, there is a cca 6x2.5cm rectangle below rsibreak icon - it looks like KNotify message window (in terms of size and position on screen) | 10:33 |
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toma | Lure: hmm, i fixed that earlier this evening, i thought | 10:34 |
toma | Lure: is that with the new timer? | 10:34 |
toma | (break at fixed times) | 10:34 |
Lure | toma: yes | 10:35 |
toma | ok, i see it | 10:36 |
Lure | now it was not black, but greyish... but snapshot did not work (break happened before I pressen New snapshot with delay) | 10:37 |
toma | Lure: greyish with a small lighter grey box on the right? | 10:37 |
toma | think i see the bug | 10:38 |
Lure | toma: I think so. I am sure that black one hade a small one in | 10:38 |
toma | oki, will fix that | 10:38 |
toma | ok, fixed. | 10:40 |
DaSkreech | Uh oh | 10:47 |
DaSkreech | Can I edit a spec? | 10:48 |
allee | DaSkreech: at the end is a comment section. Use this | 10:49 |
DaSkreech | Umm no I want to change the name of the Spec | 10:49 |
DaSkreech | I thought it was my name | 10:49 |
toma | Lure: anything else? | 10:50 |
DaSkreech | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/rogerpixley | 10:50 |
DaSkreech | :-( | 10:50 |
Lure | toma: no other side effects | 10:52 |
imbrandon | apachelogger: [10:30] <freeflying-g4> Hobbsee: jingle need special ortp, but dapper's is newer than it need, so I don't know how to solve this | 10:52 |
imbrandon | apachelogger: so it got disabled | 10:52 |
apachelogger | ;-) | 10:52 |
toma | Lure: ok, thanks | 10:52 |
DaSkreech | Guess I'll just leave it as is | 10:52 |
imbrandon | apachelogger: and the -fPIC CFLAG is for amd64 | 10:52 |
apachelogger | know what the awesomeness of Kubuntu is? | 10:53 |
Lure | toma: if you will have any new version to test, just ping me.... | 10:53 |
apachelogger | it just works :P | 10:53 |
imbrandon | ;) | 10:53 |
apachelogger | imbrandon: k, gonna leave that flag | 10:53 |
toma | Lure: will do, thnxs | 10:53 |
apachelogger | though I think we don't need the whole rules | 10:53 |
apachelogger | not even 2 % of it | 10:53 |
apachelogger | ok, maybe 2 ;-) | 10:53 |
imbrandon | lol | 10:53 |
apachelogger | really, compiling kopete takes far too long | 10:54 |
imbrandon | hahahah yea | 10:55 |
imbrandon | apachelogger: once you have your built let me know and i'll rebuild mine with your sources for amd64 and let poeple test it | 10:55 |
DaSkreech | apachelogger: DW disagrees it seems | 10:55 |
imbrandon | lunchtime brb | 10:56 |
apachelogger | DaSkreech: DW? | 10:56 |
DaSkreech | http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20060612#opinion | 10:57 |
apachelogger | phew | 10:58 |
apachelogger | totally unimporatnt :P | 10:59 |
DaSkreech | Yeah hence the end of the URL :) | 10:59 |
DaSkreech | Who did you think it was? | 10:59 |
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apachelogger | no idea | 11:00 |
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DaSkreech | Anyone in #kubuntu? | 11:28 |
Riddell | a couple hundred are | 11:28 |
apachelogger | lol | 11:31 |
DaSkreech | Are those guys breaking !language? | 11:31 |
Riddell | they're offtopic if nothing else | 11:31 |
apachelogger | Riddell: to get xpm's packaged as well they just need to be in the debian dir, correct? | 11:33 |
Riddell | they need to be told where to go as well | 11:34 |
nixternal | hello everyone!!! | 11:34 |
apachelogger | hm | 11:34 |
kmon | I've just bought a plasma t-shirt ;) | 11:42 |
apachelogger | arrsome :D | 11:42 |
kmon | hehe | 11:42 |
DaSkreech | doesn't it burn | 11:42 |
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apachelogger | :P | 11:46 |
nixternal | hahah DaSkreech | 11:48 |
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Riddell | hmm, display is quite broken for me | 12:01 |
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