[12:03] <sdolnack> i mean, i like command line much better but
[12:03] <Snake> sdolnack: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:03] <xenblend> someone... anyone...?
[12:03] <Stage> xenblend: I'm using dapper on my laptop and there are multiple desktops possible.
[12:03] <sdolnack> i didnt' realize adept was unstable or anything
[12:03] <sdolnack> i just did
[12:03] <sdolnack> it's downloading
[12:03] <chavo> xenblend, no
[12:03] <Snake> xenblend: of course not, the applet just isnt there by defualt
[12:03] <kyle__> hey, i just insstalled a wireless card. any ideas on why it won't turn on?
[12:03] <xenblend> ok thanks guys
[12:03] <samuli> sdolnack, nothing as it is, but I had to dist-upgrade instead of update to get all the packages from kde 3.5.3 repos.
[12:04] <John-Z> !xgl
[12:04] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:04] <Stage> kyle - is this a pci card?
[12:04] <kyle__> and yes. I did ndiswrapper and the hardware is present and then i modprobe ndiswrapper it
[12:04] <Snake> xenblend: just right click your kmenu, click add applet, then search and add desktop
[12:04] <kyle__> Stage: yes it is
[12:04] <leafw> there is no longer a livecd iso? Or is the 'alternative' a live CD as well ?
[12:04] <sdolnack> w00t w00t!   SS2 is done, uh, "being purchased"!
[12:04] <Snake> kyle__: sudo ifup wlan0
[12:04] <sdolnack> now i'ts time to install this sucker
[12:04] <Stage> I've made bad experiences with ndiswrapper - have you searched for some linux-drivers?
[12:04] <chavo> leafw, desktop is the live cd
[12:04] <Snake> leafw: the desktop CD is the live cd, kubuntu is now installable and live on one disk
[12:05] <leafw> chavo, Snake : ok, great. Thanks!
[12:05] <kyle__> Snake:
[12:05] <kyle__> kyle@GeForce:~$ sudo ifup wlan0
[12:05] <kyle__> Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[12:05] <Stage> kyle__: type iwconfig
[12:05] <Stage> is there a adapter with wlan-extensions available?
[12:05] <Snake> kyle__: follow stage
[12:05] <Stage> I'm new in linux... :-)
[12:05] <kyle__> Stage: it says it is not present in iwconfig
[12:05] <Stage> then ndiswrapper don't work, I think.
[12:06] <Snake> kyle__: you said you modprobed right?
[12:06] <kyle__> yes, I did
[12:06] <Snake> hmm
[12:06] <Snake> weird.
[12:06] <Stage> kyle__: goto console and type lspci
[12:06] <Stage> and look for your pci-wlan-card
[12:07] <Stage> It should appear here, right?
[12:07] <kyle__> Stage: shows doesn't show any lan card
[12:08] <Stage> Please give me the exact name of your wlan-pci-card.
[12:08] <eddye> hi all, my problem is when i install ati drivers and type in terminal fglrxinfo or glrxinfo it shows me a different driver
[12:08] <kyle__> Stage: WL-138G
[12:08] <Stage> Oh...
[12:08] <eddye> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[12:08] <eddye> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[12:08] <eddye> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:08] <eddye> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[12:08] <Stage> I'm disabled this time because of the update from breezy to dapper.
[12:08] <Stage> :-(
[12:09] <Stage> Konqueror doesn't work at the moment.
[12:09] <Stage> Sorry...
[12:09] <Snake> Stage: sudo apt-get install firefox :P
[12:09] <Stage> Snake, after I've done the dist-upgrade, I'll install firefox.
[12:09] <Snake> :)
[12:09] <Stage> But first of all let's make adept to do the upgrade.
[12:09] <slow-motion> n8
[12:10] <eddye> help anyone?
[12:10] <RogueJediX> neight? nate?
[12:10] <flo> thoreauputic: Thx that is useful! :) Is there a way to save like the system's state ? maybe the current list of installed pack. ? That way i could reverse to that point if i mess up the system by removeing something...
[12:10] <kyle__> Stage: mrv8k51                drivers present, hardware present                     when i type ndiswrapper -l
[12:11] <thoreauputic> flo: see dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections
[12:11] <Stage> Hm...
[12:11] <thoreauputic> flo: and sudo apt-get install apt-howto && apt-howto
[12:11] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:11] <pingveno> Does Apple's mdnsresponder have any advantages over avahi?
[12:11] <Stage> I think if iwconfig says there are no adapters with wireless extensions, then something with the drivers are wrong.
[12:12] <Stage> Take a look if there are Linux-Drivers available for your pci-wlan-card.
[12:12] <pingveno> I know about the whole copyright thing, I'm just trying to find out about an technical advantages.
[12:13] <flo> thoreauputic: thanx a bunch!
[12:13] <thoreauputic> flo: no worries :) man dpkg is worth reading as well
[12:13] <sdolnack> best way to mount an iso?
[12:13] <kyle__> Stage: i looked up and i was told to use 98 drivers with ndiswrapper. should i try removing it from ndiswrapper and just try it again?
[12:14] <Stage> win 98 drivers?
[12:14] <RawSewage> how do you make it so multiple desktops dont have the same desktop
[12:14] <Stage> Maybe you should try with the win 2000 drivers at least.
[12:14] <RawSewage> all of mine use the same icons and wallpaper
[12:14] <sdolnack> nvm i figger'd it out
[12:15] <RawSewage> anyone
[12:15] <Snake> sdolnack: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 iso.iso /folder/folder
[12:16] <Stage> the next version of kubuntu will be released in december?
[12:17] <Snake> RawSewage: right click your desktop, go to properties, up top it will say "all desktops" set it to which desktop you want
[12:17] <Snake> or something of that sort
[12:17] <RawSewage> ty
[12:17] <sdolnack> mount point does not exist :-/
[12:17] <sdolnack> wuzzat about?!
[12:17] <Snake> sdolnack: make the mounpoint.
[12:17] <kyle__> Stage: still nothing, i did this in opensuse and my lan card worked fine, it won't even turn on through ubunto. i upgraded my computer got a new HD and decided to install kubunto instead..
[12:17] <sdolnack> Snake:how?
[12:17] <Snake> sdolnack: mkdir /folder/folder (I dont know where you want it)
[12:18] <Stage> I've to reboot after dist-upgrade.
[12:18] <Snake> sdolnack: or just mount it at /media/cdrom
[12:18] <Stage> See ya!
[12:19] <Snake> sdolnack: do you hang around here alot? just out of curiosity
[12:19] <John-Z> !xgl
[12:19] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:19] <sdolnack> Snake: I come in here to ask questions here an dthere
[12:19] <sdolnack> i woudlnt' say i hang out here
[12:19] <Snake> John-Z: bookmark it!
[12:19] <sdolnack> why?
[12:19] <Snake> sdolnack: ah, I just havn't seen you around at all ;)
[12:20] <sdolnack> oh.  I was worried you'd be like "yeah, taht's not cool being in here all the time"
[12:20] <sdolnack> i'm in here a bit
[12:20] <Snake> sdolnack: nope im in here 24/7 :P
[12:21] <xenblend> is there a graphical UI for the command 'ps -A' in dapper like there was in breezy?
[12:21] <Snake> I'm banned from #real_life
[12:21] <chavo> xenblend, hit ctrl-esc
[12:21] <xenblend> it lists all services
[12:21] <sdolnack> say Snake, you knwo what you can help me with??
[12:22] <Snake> sdolnack: whats that
[12:22] <Snake> xenblend: check out ksysguard
[12:22] <sdolnack> Configuring LinEAK to use my multimedia buttons with amaroK, kmplayer, and whatever other media app is open
[12:22] <sdolnack> (mostly those 2 i think)
[12:22] <Snake> sdolnack: hahaha.ha.ha. good luck! I've NEVER got that to work right
[12:22] <Snake> I gave up
[12:23] <xenblend> thanks ill try it
[12:23] <andrzejsz> isn't there something called "hotkeys"? (new to ubuntu...)
[12:24] <xenblend> if i can ever get dapper to boot again... :(
[12:24] <sdolnack> damnit!!
[12:24] <RogueJediX> LinEAK, wut dat?
[12:24] <DrNickRiviera> how can i specify what version of gcc to use when running make for a certain program?
[12:24] <Snake> !language
[12:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:24] <andrzejsz> i successfully get this to work with my nx9105 (HP CPQ)
[12:24] <sdolnack> It makes my dell lappy's multimedia buttons work
[12:24] <andrzejsz> on Mandriva, Fedora and Gentoo
[12:24] <sdolnack> Snake: sorry
[12:24] <Snake> hehe
[12:24] <sdolnack> have you tried uhhhh
[12:24] <Snake> !botsnack
[12:24] <ubotu> thanks snake :)
[12:24] <sdolnack> what's the other thing i see the kiddies using w/ their media buttons
[12:25] <Snake> hax scripts!
[12:25] <Snake> I press play and delete your hdd!! hahaha
[12:25] <sdolnack> kmilo
[12:25] <sdolnack> ever use kmilo?
[12:25] <Snake> you said your IP was "1.0.0.27" right? :P
[12:25] <Snake> No
[12:26] <Snake> oh man. I messed that IP up
[12:26] <Snake> 127.0.0.1
[12:26] <andrzejsz> somebody hack him, please.
[12:26] <andrzejsz> his ip is 127.0.0.1
[12:26] <Snake> Hehe
[12:27] <Snake> andrzejsz: ill press play and itll execute my h4x script and delete his HDD
[12:27] <Snake> haha
[12:27] <andrzejsz> oh, sambaldap has hacked you, snake?
[12:27] <sdolnack> Snake: what part of the world you from? timezone?
[12:27] <Snake> sdolnack: Ohio, USA, Eastern
[12:28] <Snake> Yourself?
[12:28] <sdolnack> east coast (delaware/nj)
[12:28] <Snake> Fun stuff
[12:28] <metalhedd> anyone using xgl/compiz w/  KDE? I have some really strage keyboard behaviour.
[12:28] <John-Z> !widget
[12:28] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, John-Z
[12:29] <John-Z> !widgets
[12:29] <ubotu> John-Z: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:29] <Snake> ....
[12:29] <andrzejsz> !127.0.0.1
[12:29] <ubotu> 127
[12:29] <sdolnack> i was in cleveland once.  it wws nice
[12:29] <Snake> lol
[12:29] <Snake> sdolnack: thats where I live, about 20 mins from downtown
[12:29] <Snake> John-Z: check this out:
[12:29] <Snake> !superkaramba
[12:29] <ubotu> SuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org
[12:30] <andrzejsz> !Snake
[12:30] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, andrzejsz
[12:30] <andrzejsz> :)
[12:30] <sdolnack> snake--ever seen a building w/ a giant mural of an electrical outlet on it?
[12:30] <sdolnack> it ws outside of our hotel window and it was so intriguiing
[12:30] <sdolnack> and i never knew wwhat it was
[12:30] <Snake> sdolnack: hmmm not sure, we got a lot of strange art around here
[12:30] <RawSewage> One thing that needs to be fixed in WAllet
[12:31] <RawSewage> when it appears, it needs to STAY ON TOP
[12:31] <RawSewage> Ive had to change my password 3 times now
[12:31] <RawSewage> because I typed my wallet password on IRC
[12:31] <Snake> I HATE wallet
[12:31] <Snake> Hate it.
[12:31] <RawSewage> why
[12:31] <Snake> Because it gets in my way
[12:32] <Snake> and I dont like all my passwords in one general area
[12:32] <Snake> I keep them in my head
[12:32] <RawSewage> you must have a good memory
[12:32] <sdolnack> Snake: how's the scene in clev? any good record stores or concert venues?
[12:32] <Snake> sdolnack: PM me, were gonna get introuble for being so offtopic
[12:33] <sdolnack> ok
[12:34] <Snake> sdolnack: are you reciving my PMs?
[12:34] <sdolnack> yeah--have to register first
[12:34] <Snake> ah hehe
[12:34] <Snake> <3 the node
[12:36] <metalhedd> anyone using xgl/compiz w/  KDE? I have some really strage keyboard behaviour.
[12:36] <Snake> Not I said the cat
[12:36] <John-Z> see #ubuntu-xgl
[12:37] <John-Z> I'm running xgl with kubuntu
[12:38] <metalhedd> John-Z:  are all of your keyboard shortcuts working as they should? the super keys are really wierd over here... they were fine in gnome but in KDE it doesn't recoognize Super just Super_L and Super_R so I tried Super_L and it acts as though its always being pressed (ie only the mousewheel alone will zoom my desktop ion and out)
[12:50] <Stage> Okay...
[12:50] <Stage> Great.
[12:51] <Stage> My USB-WLAN-Dongle is working.
[12:51] <RawSewage> tj9991, how many desktops do you  use
[12:51] <tj9991> one
[12:51] <Stage> Tomorrow I will get my printer working.
[12:51] <Stage> :-)
[01:02] <xenblend> can someone tell me how to install 'slocate'???
[01:03] <crimsun_> xenblend: it should be installed by default as part of kubuntu-desktop
[01:03] <crimsun_> crimsun@garnish:~$ apt-cache rdepends slocate |grep kubuntu kubuntu-desktop
[01:04] <hyphenated> hi guys. is it normal for kded to exec /sbin/route, /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/iwconfig once per second? seems a bit excessive to me
[01:05] <hyphenated> or should I be asking in #kde ?
[01:05] <xenblend> crimsum: not to be rude, but i wouldnt be saying this if it was installed on my computer, thanks for playing tho
[01:05] <neoncode> in gimp is there any kind of mouse selection tool?
[01:11] <XyFeX> ullo
[01:11] <XyFeX> need some help with my usb drives...
[01:11] <XyFeX> in 5.10 they used to be recongnized and pop up on my desktop... but since i upgraded to dapper i dont get anything... im on an old ppc any ideas?
[01:14] <james_xxx> linux question: i am trying to make TWO partitions on an external hard drive using Gparted, one formatted to FAT32 and the other to ext3.... it is taking a LONG LONG time to format the ext3 partition (it has been at it for 20 minutes now). is this something that will not work? or does it just take a while?
[01:23] <John-Z> !xgl
[01:23] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:26] <fatejudger> are the Kubuntu devels going to come up with some hack to get the KDE window decos working with XGL?
[01:27] <fatejudger> at least in Edgy
[01:27] <fatejudger> since I'm guessing that KDE 4 will be release after the freeze
[01:27] <james_xxx> i hope gparted is doing something because this has been like 30 minutes now lol
[01:27] <XyFeX> problem with usb storage drives.. in 5.10 they used to be recongnized and pop up on my desktop... but since i upgraded to dapper i dont get anything... im on an old ppc
[01:27] <ru> Can someone tell me how to install my webcam on my macbook pro
[01:28] <ru> Do I need "v4l" in my xorg.conf file?
[01:28] <XyFeX> any ideas?
[01:28] <james_xxx> XyFeX: the icons pop up on my screen in dapper
[01:29] <james_xxx> XyFeX: it may be that you have your setting configured to not allow icons??
[01:30] <click_> ok I have a question again and if anyone has any input please help
[01:30] <click_> I need a program that will stitch two halfs of a scan together
[01:30] <james_xxx> XyFeX: i am not a registered user so i cannot respond to private messages
[01:31] <XyFeX> oh
[01:31] <XyFeX> did u get what i said?
[01:31] <XyFeX> sry still kinda new to irc
[01:32] <james_xxx> XyFeX: yes, i still wonder if it isn't a setting, but i am FAR from an expert on ubuntu or linux
[01:32] <click_> if what isn't a setting?
[01:32] <Mitja> Anyone had any troubles with the Dapper installer?
[01:33] <click_> mine went in fine
[01:33] <click_> had problems with it running live though
[01:33] <LjL> did something strange with my network settings i think, but other than that, fine
[01:33] <haider> Mitja: no prob. dude
[01:33] <Mitja> It stops responding at 5th step
[01:33] <LjL> oh, i had some difficulty selecting "rome" from the time zone map, it kept on wanting to select "vatican city" ;)
[01:33] <haider> other than katapult dosnt work
[01:34] <Mitja> After selecting to manually edit partitions
[01:34] <click_> does anyone know of a program to stitch photos or scans together
[01:34] <LjL> click_: "ale", but it's slow. accurate, does lots of interesting things, but slow.
[01:34] <Mitja> Does it always make a fake desktop and you have to click on Install icon?
[01:35] <LjL> Mitja: uh... yeah. but, it's not fake...
[01:35] <LjL> what do you mean with fake?
[01:36] <Mitja> In the installation process.
[01:36] <Mitja> Anyway, can't figure out how to get around that error
[01:37] <james_xxx> ok i partitioned my external drive... one partition is FAT32, and the other is ext3... now my computer does not recognize the ext3 partition. would anyone know why this would be?
[01:38] <theine> Hi, is there a way to have kwin ignore certain windows (i.e. superkaramba widgets) when doing its smart window placement?
[01:38] <theine> i.e. if I have an empty desktop and I launch konsole, i'd like it to be in the top-left corner, whether there's a widget or not
[01:38] <LjL> Mitja: the desktop that you see there is simply the Live CD desktop. you can do all kind of things from there, including but not limited to clicking on the "Install" icon. you can type a document, edit a spreadsheet, install programs, and whatever
[01:38] <Mitja> LjL, ok, how do I make the installer actually work?
[01:38] <FurthuR> usb storage druves dont get automaticaly mounted... old ppc... any ideas (XyFeX changed names to FurthuR)
[01:39] <LjL> Mitja: as for the problems partitioning, i would try hitting a command line and "sudo cfdisk /dev/hda", and see if that works. then i would "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" and see if anything is wrong with the partition table, but using fdisk is not specially easy
[01:40] <LjL> Mitja: you could also try getting the "alternative" install cd, which comes with the old text-mode install. perhaps you'd have better luck with that
[01:41] <Mitja> LjL, even when I do that, will that make the installer proceed smoothly? I just installed Breezy whithout a hitch and partitioning went fine numerous times
[01:41] <LjL> Mitja: i don't really know. the only problem that i can imagine is the partition table being wrong, but i certainly couldn't swear on it.
[01:42] <LjL> Mitja: if you don't mind burning another cd, i would try the "alternative"
[01:42] <Mitja> LjL, thanks
[01:42] <John-Z> !xgl'
[01:42] <ubotu> John-Z: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:42] <John-Z> !xgl
[01:42] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:42] <Mitja> although there might be something wrong with the partition table, why didn't Breezy complain then?
[01:43] <LjL> different partitioners
[01:43] <sdolnack> John-Z: still lookin at xgl?
[01:44] <fatejudger> it's very strange that Novell, being a KDE oriented company, would write a gnome window decorator instead of a KDE window decorator for XGL
[01:44] <NeoChaosX> well, Compiz works with both GNOME and KDE
[01:44] <fatejudger> yeah, but it's worthless since there's no KDE window decorator
[01:44] <fatejudger> who wants Gnome window decos anyway?
[01:45] <NeoChaosX> Folks who like GNOME's visual simplicity, I guess
[01:45] <FurthuR> compiz looks sick!
[01:45] <NeoChaosX> Besides, Novell's encouraging Metacity and Kwin work with Xgl, rather than use Compiz as a replacement
[01:46] <NeoChaosX> Compiz is really just a demonstration more than anything
[01:46] <fatejudger> yeah, but KDE has no plans to write a window decorator for KDE 3 that works with XGL
[01:46] <fatejudger> they're just going to release one for KDE 4
[01:46] <fatejudger> which, for the preview, is several months away
[01:46] <FurthuR> well the whole 3d desktop thing has always been a great showpiece and tool for converting non *nix people
[01:47] <fatejudger> who knows how long it'll be until betas come out, let alone the final release
[01:47] <FurthuR> is there a date for KDE4
[01:47] <FurthuR> estimate of some sort
[01:47] <fatejudger> October 06
[01:47] <fatejudger> for the preview
[01:47] <fatejudger> not the final
[01:47] <FurthuR> k
[01:48] <fatejudger> who knows whether that will include Plasma or not
[01:48] <fatejudger> it could just be all the QT 3 apps ported over to QT 4
[01:48] <fatejudger> running on a desktop that looks like KDE 3ish
[01:48] <NeoChaosX> Yeah, of the KDE4 screenshots so far, I'm disappointed they're still using Kicker
[01:48] <fatejudger> NeoChaosX: they aren't planning to
[01:48] <FurthuR> theres screenshots?
[01:49] <FurthuR> gotta check that out
[01:49] <fatejudger> NeoChaosX: at least for later releases
[01:49] <FurthuR> btw
[01:49] <NeoChaosX> I know that
[01:49] <FurthuR> usb storage drives dont get automaticaly mounted... running an old ppc... any ideas?
[01:49] <NeoChaosX> I mean, it's disappointing that Plasma's not ready so they have to use Kicker
[01:49] <fatejudger> NeoChaosX: Plasma is the one working on that, right?
[01:49] <fatejudger> NeoChaosX: yeah
[01:49] <fatejudger> NeoChaosX: the application devels are doing a great job porting though
[01:49] <fatejudger> NeoChaosX: KOffice is making great progress, as is amarok
[01:50] <fatejudger> NeoChaosX: Kopete is getting close, and the main applications like kate and whatnot have already been ported
[01:50] <NeoChaosX> Heck yeah. I've been following PlanetKDE, they're doing great with the apps
[01:50] <FurthuR> although kopete is nothing close to amsn
[01:50] <fatejudger> it's just sad, they don't have near enough creative people and artists in the KDE project
[01:51] <fatejudger> which is why I think that Kopete's decision to include support for Adium styles
[01:51] <fatejudger> and their plan to include a layer of support for OS X Dashboard widgets is great
[01:51] <NeoChaosX> Yeah
[01:52] <sdolnack> how do i unmount a file?
[01:52] <NeoChaosX> sdolnack: A file, or a filesystem
[01:52] <NeoChaosX> ?
[01:52] <sdolnack> an ISO
[01:52] <NeoChaosX> Hm
[01:53] <sdolnack> i mounted it OK
[01:53] <sdolnack> now i just need to unmount it
[01:53] <NeoChaosX> What directory do you have it mounted to?
[01:53] <winbond> what do i need to apt-get to install flash player in the konquerer?
[01:53] <NeoChaosX> winbond: flashplayer-nonfree
[01:53] <sdolnack> NeoChaosX: /mount/cdrom
[01:53] <winbond> NeoChaosX: ty
[01:54] <NeoChaosX> sdolnack: sudo umount /mount/cdrom
[01:54] <NeoChaosX> er, wait winbond
[01:54] <NeoChaosX> it's actually flashplugin-nonfree
[01:54] <winbond> NeoChaosX: ok
[01:54] <NeoChaosX> d'oh
[01:55] <sdolnack> i tried
[01:55] <sdolnack> sudo: unmount: command not found
[01:55] <NeoChaosX> it's umount
[01:55] <NeoChaosX> not unmount
[01:55] <sdolnack> oh
[01:55] <sdolnack> how silly!
[01:55] <haider> sdolnack: Tab completion! :)
[01:55] <NeoChaosX> Yeah, it's kind of confusing as well
[01:55] <sdolnack> haider: what about it?
[01:56] <haider> sdolnack: Use it! :) And you wont ever mispell! :)
[01:56] <sdolnack> haider: ko
[01:56] <sdolnack> ok*
[01:57] <ryanakca> why is it that each time I go to the kubuntu wiki, in konq, I get an invalid certificate, do I want to proceed, do I want to store the certificate. I allwais pick "forever" instead of "this session only". However, it keeps on re-asking me... what can I do to fix this?
[01:59] <FurthuR> little problem : My usb storage drives dont get automaticaly mounted... running on an old ppc
[01:59] <FurthuR> any ideas?
[01:59] <FurthuR> they used to in 5.10
[01:59] <FurthuR> but now i plug em in and nothing..
[01:59] <winbond> NeoChaosX: which repo do i need enabled for the flashplugin?
[02:00] <roy__> hello
[02:00] <NeoChaosX> winbond: you need multiverse enabled
[02:01] <roy__> quick question...I did the upgrade from breezy to dapper, but after the upgrade my sound card no longer works.
[02:01] <winbond> NeoChaosX: k , ty
[02:01] <NeoChaosX> furthur: install ivman
[02:01] <roy__> I know it's wired up correctly by booting into XP
[02:01] <NeoChaosX> you're welcome winbond
[02:01] <roy__> any ideas?
[02:04] <stoft> anyone know how to set the default view mode in konqueror? it keeps reverting to icons which is very annoying...
[02:06] <NeoChaosX> stoft: you want to choose Settings > Save View Profile
[02:07] <RawSewage> tj9991, Kubuntu ETA
[02:07] <watergla1s> hi, i just made a small .avi film on my digital camera but the file is HUGE .. is there a program on kubuntu that will let me convert this to .divx format?
[02:08] <tj9991> who knows
[02:08] <RawSewage> divx is avi
[02:08] <RawSewage> try converting to mkv
[02:08] <RawSewage> mkv is to video what ogg is to mp3
[02:09] <RawSewage> tj9991, only you can know.  you have the power
[02:09] <stoft> avi is a container no? could be either divx, xvid or something else I think. check out www.doom9.net, maybe they have tips for some progs to convert
[02:09] <RawSewage> right
[02:09] <RawSewage> divx is avi
[02:09] <RawSewage> but not all avi is divx
[02:09] <watergla1s> ahh
[02:09] <RawSewage> xvid is divx backwards
[02:09] <RawSewage> you have ogm
[02:10] <watergla1s> thanks
[02:10] <stoft> yep, all film gets played in the wrong direction. of course, if it's a tarantino flick it doesn't much matter... :)
[02:10] <RawSewage> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mkv
[02:10] <RawSewage> lol
[02:12] <RawSewage> bookmark this page:  http://www.videohelp.com/
[02:14] <watergla1s> RawSewage: thanks.. that link is sweet!
[02:15] <farous> skipster23:
[02:18] <fatejudger> when I click on a link with "irc://insertservernamehere" it tries to open Kopete instead of Konversation
[02:18] <fatejudger> is there any way to change that?
[02:19] <firephoto> fatejudger: probably change the app order in the file types setting of konq?
[02:19] <fatejudger> firephoto: it's not a file though
[02:19] <fatejudger> firephoto: it's a protocol
[02:20] <firephoto> yeah.. i see it's not easy to find in there.. but i bet it's there somewhere. lol  if not it's hard coded somehow.
[02:21] <fatejudger> firephoto: it's not in that dialog, that's for file type associations
[02:21] <firephoto> it should show under the uri section..
[02:21] <firephoto> but I see there is nothing there for irc.
[02:23] <fatejudger> firephoto: I could create it
[02:23] <fatejudger> firephoto: that doesn't seem to work though
[02:24] <firephoto> fatejudger: i'll find an irc link here and try it.
[02:24] <fatejudger> k
[02:25] <firephoto> it went to konvi here
[02:25] <firephoto> didn't go to the existing session though. tried to connect to freenode again.
[02:26] <firephoto> irc://irc.freenode.org/kubuntu  was what i tried
[02:26] <firephoto> i don't have any irc setup on my kopete though.
[02:27] <fatejudger> firephoto: right, but it shouldn't even use Kopete, it should use Konversation
[02:27] <fatejudger> firephoto: my laptop doesn't have this problem either, which makes it all the weirder
[02:27] <bulltitan> is there any utility with gui to split a 2gb file into 700mb volumes
[02:27] <bulltitan> ?
[02:28] <bulltitan> i don't really know command line options for rar
[02:29] <crimsun_> there are several, rar and 7zip being among them
[02:29] <firephoto> bulltitan: you might take a look at kdar
[02:30] <bulltitan> ok let me see that one
[02:30] <bulltitan> will it work in gnome?
[02:31] <sdolnack> dont tell me
[02:31] <sdolnack> don't EVEN tell me
[02:31] <sdolnack> kubuntu can't play encrypted dvds
[02:32] <firephoto> if you have kde it should.. not sure though. i haven't ever really used it but i recall looking at it and thinking i saw the option to break stuff at cd sized.. might google it first
[02:32] <james_xxx> how does one register a nick for irc chat?
[02:32] <sdolnack> james_xxx:
[02:32] <sdolnack> james_xxx: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg
[02:32] <james_xxx> sdolnack: ty
[02:34] <bulltitan> ok
[02:34] <fatejudger> sdolnack: libdvdcss2
[02:36] <james_xxx> has anyone in here ever installed an OS to an external USB hard drive?
[02:36] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah
[02:37] <psychiccyberfrea> you need a compatable motherboard most new ones are
[02:37] <james_xxx> how did it go?
[02:37] <james_xxx> i am thinking of installing fedora core 5 to a USB drive....
[02:38] <psychiccyberfrea> It was suposed to be used at school, but If I did I had to change around the BIOS settings and the admins would've been pissed
[02:39] <psychiccyberfrea> whoops excuse my language
[02:39] <fatejudger> james_xxx: lol, that must be one huge ass USB drive
[02:39] <psychiccyberfrea> 5 gigs
[02:39] <james_xxx> fatejudger: how much room would i need to fedora?
[02:39] <psychiccyberfrea> that's what I have on mine
[02:40] <psychiccyberfrea> about 2 depending on what packages you want
[02:40] <fatejudger> james_xxx: I don't use Fedora, so I wouldn't know exactly
[02:40] <psychiccyberfrea> gigs anyway
[02:40] <firephoto> fatejudger: look at /usr/share/services/konvirc.protocol and /usr/share/services/irc.protocol
[02:40] <fatejudger> james_xxx: but I know it's a hell of a lot bigger than Kubuntu
[02:40] <tehuti> can someone post me a working ~/.kde/share/config/KWeatherServicerc
[02:40] <fatejudger> firephoto: k
[02:40] <tehuti> please
[02:41] <james_xxx> fatejudger: this is an ancient 45G hard drive (noisier than hell), but i would be flat out shocked if fedora could not be installed on an HD with less than 10G
[02:41] <tehuti> if anyone uses kweather
[02:41] <farous> tehuti: you need to put the name of your station manually
[02:41] <farous> search for it
[02:41] <james_xxx> tehuti: i would like to use kweather, but it is a piece of crap
[02:41] <Snake> rawr fedora!!
[02:41] <firephoto> fatejudger: not sure what in konq decides which to use.. irc.proto is from kopete (or kde itself)
[02:41] <tehuti> farous it doesn't work
[02:41] <farous> i had it working for i know my station
[02:41] <farous> CYHM
[02:42] <tehuti> only way to get it working is to modify KWeatherServicerc
[02:42] <tehuti> I got it working in Breezy
[02:42] <tehuti> but I forget how I modded it exactly
[02:42] <psychiccyberfrea> After I upgraded to dapper ndiswrapper stopped working on my machine what do I do?
[02:42] <james_xxx> tehuti: for most people, kweather will not work
[02:42] <fatejudger> firephoto: weird, I'll change that part then
[02:42] <tehuti> james_xxx you just have to modify the config file manually
[02:42] <farous> is there a weather applet in karamba
[02:43] <james_xxx> farous: yes
[02:43] <tehuti> does anyone have a working kweather?
[02:43] <farous> i use gdesklets my self but thats a gnome thing
[02:43] <fatejudger> firephoto: I have a feeling this is going to require a KDE restart...
[02:43] <james_xxx> tehuti: but the number of 'stations' on kweather is very limited
[02:44] <FreshPrince> hmmm
[02:44] <tehuti> james_xxx it worked fine for my locale once I modded the config file manually
[02:44] <sdolnack> has anyone used lineak or kmilo?
[02:44] <farous> tehuti: i agree its a kubuntu thing. i had mepis and worked perfectly
[02:44] <farous> tehuti: consider karamba
[02:45] <james_xxx> tehuti: maybe you were lucky that there is a weather station in your local... i wish it just interfaced with weather.com or something
[02:45] <james_xxx> locale*
[02:45] <tehuti> wait, this might work: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=446240
[02:45] <psychiccyberfrea> liquidweather works great its for superkaramba
[02:45] <james_xxx> the weather icon for the xfce4 panel in  xubuntu works great
[02:46] <l_r> kubuntu ia mostly perfect. i only have one complaint. there's no longer support for 3d acceleration for my matrox g400
[02:46] <l_r> it used to exist for x server < 7.0
[02:46] <sdolnack> has anyone used kmilo or lineak?
[02:50] <Carl_2> hello
[02:50] <Carl_2> i need to configure kubuntu to work with a usb internet connection
[02:50] <Carl_2> how can i do this?
[02:50] <battledra> I am having trouble w/ the xserver, kdm comes up fine, but when I try to log in, xserver restarts and kicks me back up to the login screen.
[02:51] <battledra> it also wan't let me go to a console unless I am in recovery mode
[02:53] <psychiccyberfrea> non plug-n-play device?
[02:53] <psychiccyberfrea> Carl_2: non plug-n-play device?
[02:53] <Carl_2> hmm...
[02:54] <Carl_2> I am on a dell dimension 4100, its about 6-7 years old
[02:54] <Carl_2> i don't know if it is plug-n-play or not, how do i find out?
[02:55] <Carl_2> i think it's probably not...
[02:55] <james_xxx> Carl_2: are you using satellite?
[02:55] <Chroni> hi I'm new to kubuntu , just want to know kubuntu supports binary install of packages like latest versions of xorg , kde, and if you can also compile from sources?
[02:56] <Carl_2> no
[02:56] <Carl_2> a usb cable attached to a usb 1 port, and a dsl modem
[02:56] <Kadran> does any one know how to redirect the display?
[02:57] <Kadran> like typing realplay on a tty and have it runinng in other tty?
[02:59] <Carl_2> ok...the dsl modem is plug-n-play
[03:04] <psychiccyberfrea> Can anyone help me with my wireless problem?
[03:14] <psychiccyberfrea> Can anyone help me with my wireless problem?
[03:19] <Hhhhh> hello, I just downloaded the AMD64 kubuntu draper iso, burned it and I'm trying to install, but X won't start, it seems to have  problems dealing with my nvidia SLI setup. Any ideas?
[03:19] <battledra> manually edit xorg.conf :)
[03:20] <Hhhhh> I thought about it, but I'm stilljuts trying to boot as liveDVD, so I can't
[03:20] <battledra> ahh
[03:20] <Hhhhh> lemme rephrase: I'm still just trying to boot it as liveDVD
[03:21] <Hhhhh> but for some reason X won't start. I checked a few log files, and it seems that it detects one of my videocards, but not the other one
[03:21] <battledra> I don't think the nvidia driver is on the dvd, and not sure if the nv driver supports the sli
[03:21] <Hhhhh> it should at least start X
[03:21] <battledra> well, go to command line, type startx and what errors does it give you?
[03:21] <battledra> my x config was looking for a wacom tablet for some stupid reason
[03:22] <m5m> What's the simplest way of running an app everytime I log in?  (I want to run xlassie mail notifying applet in the panel)
[03:22] <Hhhhh> it says it's already started
[03:22] <Hhhhh> yea, it's also looking for some wacom
[03:22] <battledra> do /etc/init.d/kdm stop or/etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:22] <battledra> as root
[03:22] <leafw> is there any way to run emacs inside a terminal, instead of the independent window that it opens?
[03:22] <aseigo> m5m: open konqi, under the Go menu there's 'Autostart', select it, then right click in the main area and select New -> Link to Application
[03:22] <m5m> leafw: yes there is... not remember the option atm
[03:23] <m5m> aseigo: excellent thanks
[03:23] <battledra> leafw: i thought it defaulted to terminal and only went to new window on -w?
[03:23] <leafw> battledra : it defaults to window, apparently
[03:23] <battledra> leafw: see if its alias'd in .bash_profile for emacs
[03:24] <Hhhhh> battledra, I did kdm stop, then startx, and I can hear the welcome sound but the screen freezes before showing anything
[03:24] <battledra> does it give any errors in the console?
[03:24] <Hhhhh> battledra, it gives a bunch of stupid wacom errors
[03:24] <battledra> yah, go into the xorg.conf and remove the wacom crap
[03:25] <Hhhhh> i'll try that
[03:25] <battledra> make sure you remove the references to the wacom devices too
[03:25] <battledra> anyone know how to make ubuntu not update your system clock to utc time?
[03:25] <m5m> aseigo: the 'go' menu?  in Konqueror? I'm not seeing it
[03:26] <leafw> battledra : no alias in ~/.bash_profile
[03:26] <leafw> battledra : but 'emacs -nw' makes it.
[03:27] <leafw> I have missed the point where emacs geeks have shifted to windowed displays ...
[03:27] <battledra> hrmm, must be aliased in another file then
[03:27] <m5m> leafw 'xemacs -nw'
[03:27] <m5m> leafw: if you're using xemacs, I wasn't sure
[03:28] <m5m> i got that from xemacs --help, probably same tips in 'emacs --help' if you're running that variant
[03:28] <leafw> m5m : no, emacs (from the package)
[03:28] <aseigo> m5m: open up konqueror. in the menu bar there is a menu: "Go"
[03:28] <John-Z> Would you think xgl would work slowly on a dell laptop and a radeon 9000 card?
[03:28] <battledra> well, i'm out, gotta study
[03:29] <leafw> so much fuzz about Xgl. Can anyone give me a good reason as to why should one use it?
[03:29] <m5m> aseigo: really?  On mine the menus are "Location, Edit, View, Bookmarks, Tools, Settings, & Help"
[03:30] <m5m> aseigo that's Konqueror 3.5.2 on Dapper
[03:31] <John-Z> Because it looks cool.
[03:31] <John-Z> ;)
[03:32] <leafw> someone once said, all the computational power increase in the following century will be wasted (in GUIs, he didn't add)
[03:32] <DrBair> xgl will prove to be more important in the future
[03:32] <Hhhhh> hmm, guys, I'm having a problem with xorg.conf when trying to boot the Kubuntu Draper AMD64 liveDVD, it tries to open some wacom device and it also has problems recognizing my nvidia second videocard in SLI. I get no display. Any ideas?
[03:33] <DrBair> xgl in theory will be less load on the CPU than traditional X, and drivers should be much easier to write
[03:33] <leafw> DrBair: important for what. Does it add anything to ease of use, usability, features otherwise impossible?
[03:33] <DrBair> leafw: drivers are the biggest
[03:33] <leafw> DrBair: that is a good reason, to free the CPU
[03:33] <Hhhhh> :q
[03:33] <leafw> DrBair: but I thought X 7.* was aiming at that, with its new modularization?
[03:34] <DrBair> the idea is that you don't need a driver that supports all the X stuff... only one that supports GL
[03:34] <DrBair> thats something that only XGL will deliver, but its a big step
[03:35] <leafw> that is a powerful idea. To run Blender without the heavy load of X!
[03:35] <psychiccyberfrea> Can anyone help me with my wireless problem?
[03:35] <monster> anyone know where i can get kernel source for dapper?
[03:36] <monster> i dont have inet access with my pc to aptget it
[03:36] <leafw> monster: apt-get it from a different computer, with donwload only
[03:36] <Mussorgsky> why doesn't ctrl+tab work to switch desktops?
[03:37] <monster> leafw: i dont have another machine to do that with
[03:37] <leafw> Mussorgsky : check that your control key is active (maybe some other key is being used for control)
[03:37] <leafw> monster : you are chatting. You are online.
[03:37] <Mussorgsky> ctrl+page up and ctrl+page down work
[03:37] <DrBair> Mussorgsky: doesn't do it here either... i don't believe its setup by default
[03:37] <monster> well if i ran a livecd on this machine i dont think i could burn the .deb for the laptop
[03:37] <leafw> Mussorgsky : then check the shortcuts in System Settings / Accessibility.
[03:38] <Mussorgsky> DrBair: yes, it seems so... in regular kde it works, but not in kubuntu
[03:38] <leafw> monster: you could save the .deb in the local disk, or put it in a usb pen
[03:38] <aseigo> m5m: hrm.. just go to /home/aseigo/.kde/Autostart/ in konqi then
[03:38] <aseigo> er... ~/.kde/Autostart/
[03:39] <monster> leafw the local disk is ntfs? will that work you think?
[03:39] <Mussorgsky> I'd never figure that configuration for keyboard shortcuts is in accessibility
[03:39] <leafw> monster : I wouldn't try to write to an ntfs!
[03:39] <monster> yeah :<
[03:39] <monster> plus id have to download the livecd
[03:39] <leafw> usb pen then. What else.
[03:39] <monster> i dont have one:<
[03:40] <DrBair> leafw: monster: ntfs write hasn't been too bad lately assuming you're not doing too many new files
[03:40] <leafw> go fetch it from your neighbor xD
[03:40] <monster> i would assume i could manually search the repository for the deb file but i havent had success
[03:41] <Mussorgsky> leafw: thanks, I found it, now it's configured the way I like it :)
[03:41] <leafw> Mussorgsky : np
[03:41] <MrObvious> I want to add 3 simple commands to my startup. How can I do this?
[03:41] <monster> .bashrc
[03:42] <CaptainMorgan> how do I view the local network ?
[03:42] <MrObvious> It involves root permissions tho monster
[03:42] <CaptainMorgan> network folders doesn't seem to have it
[03:42] <MrObvious> I don't think .bashrc is enough.
[03:42] <leafw> MrObvious : the kde has an autorun feature ... or use standard unixy ways ( ~/.bashrc)
[03:42] <DrBair> *going to try s3 sleep on the desktop...
[03:42] <MrObvious> I need to have my network come up when I start up my computer.
[03:42] <MrObvious> I don't use KDE.
[03:42] <leafw> MrObvious : then for root stuff add it to the single-user run files under /etc (haven't looked at it in ages)
[03:43] <monster> leafw: by chance could mirror the source for me? i have a http ajax upload you could use
[03:43] <monster> not to put my problems on you, just cant find an easy way to get this
[03:43] <leafw> monster : I could put it in a server for you.
[03:43] <MrObvious> I have a Wireless BCM4318 that I have to do sudo iwconfig eth0 essid linksys then I need to do sudo dhclient when I first log in.
[03:44] <monster> that would be more then awesome
[03:44] <aseigo> MrObvious: /etc/rc.local
[03:44] <leafw> monster : which package name is it exactly ?
[03:44] <monster> apt-cache search kernel-source
[03:44] <monster> 2.6.15-23-386
[03:44] <monster> kernel-source- 2.6.15-23-386
[03:44] <monster> im thinking
[03:45] <leafw> hum, ppc here xD
[03:45] <MrObvious> Ok I"ll try it.
[03:45] <leafw> I need to adjust the source.list
[03:45] <monster> your a life savor
[03:46] <monster> this should allow me to compile ndiswrapper
[03:46] <monster> and get the laptop online
[03:49] <CaptainMorgan> nobody knows?
[03:50] <MrObvious> Knows what?
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> how do i access my local network? Network Folders doesn't seem to have it..
[03:50] <leafw> monster : from ppc, dpkg and apt-get refuse to fetch the i386 version. Find it here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/
[03:50] <MrObvious> Samba? NFS?
[03:51] <leafw> monster : to compile ndiswrapper, you need the headers only, not the kernel sources.
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> got Samba, but Samba doesn't see the local net either
[03:52] <linux_galore> samba is the server you mean what client do you use ??
[03:52] <CaptainMorgan> it's here somewhere, otherwise I wouldn't be on IRC...
[03:52] <monster> leafw: i installed the headers
[03:52] <CaptainMorgan> dunno, MrObvious said Samba... so I replied.. ok.. what client should I use?
[03:52] <leafw> monster : then what's the problem?
[03:52] <monster> i heard it required the hearders and the source
[03:53] <monster> i paste error
[03:53] <leafw> monster : proceed to compile the ndiswrapper
[03:53] <MrObvious> Usually you can use konqueror and type smb://ip.address if the other computer has samba set up
[03:53] <CaptainMorgan> shouldn't be as simple as being in Network Folders?
[03:53] <MrObvious> !samba
[03:53] <ubotu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[03:53] <MrObvious> !nfs
[03:53] <ubotu> nfs is, like, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:53] <MrObvious> Try that
[03:53] <leafw> monster : http://pastebin.com/
[03:53] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: you use an application called smb4k as a client for samba on the kde desktop
[03:53] <monster> Can't find kernel buid files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build
[03:54] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: smb4k works inside konqueror so you can browse the shares like in windows
[03:54] <leafw> monster : navigate to that folder and see if it's there and what it contains
[03:54] <CaptainMorgan> is samba smb4k ?
[03:55] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: no samba is a server smb4k is a client
[03:55] <monster> it doesnt have a build file/dir
[03:55] <monster> it does have a kernel dir
[03:55] <duane> i have a question about this XGL/compiz howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=845077
[03:56] <monster> doesnt seem to be useful tho
[03:56] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: good example is irc, you can have an irc server and people connect to it with a irc client application
[03:56] <leafw> monster : the build I suspect is created when one compiles the kernel
[03:56] <CaptainMorgan> I don't get it.. why do I need a client or server to view my local net? regular ubuntu didn't need this..
[03:56] <leafw> monster : shouldn't be necessary
[03:56] <leafw> !ndiswrapper
[03:56] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[03:56] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: lol same reason you dont run apache to browse the web
[03:56] <duane> the first part of that howto seems to be trying to install your video driver. If my video driver is already installed should I just skip most of the steps that have you edit xorg.conf?
[03:57] <leafw> monster : did you follow the instructions from this page?
[03:57] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: apache is a server you use a browser to view pages on the apache server
[03:57] <monster> yeah
[03:57] <monster> im gonna double check some things
[03:57] <CaptainMorgan> but my local net is not run on Samba, so cross out a client
[03:57] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: samba is "the" server smb4k is what you use to view the shares on samba
[03:58] <CaptainMorgan> !sm4k
[03:58] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaptainMorgan
[03:58] <CaptainMorgan> !smb4k
[03:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaptainMorgan
[03:58] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: see the relationship  server/client both are different things
[03:58] <leafw> monster : then revise the entire procedure. The instructions worked for me on setting up i386 laptops.
[03:58] <CaptainMorgan> I understand that.. I don't see why one ubuntu needs it and another doens't..
[03:59] <monster> i didnt see this tutorial on without net access
[03:59] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: ?? Ubuntu is gnome based it uses a different client
[03:59] <monster> dope it installed
[03:59] <leafw> monster : check section 3.1 for common errors
[03:59] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: samba is optional on a client machine
[03:59] <monster> got it installed
[03:59] <monster> with use the headers
[03:59] <leafw> monster : so problem solved?
[03:59] <CaptainMorgan> but I need it to view my local net?
[03:59] <CaptainMorgan> or only smb4k ?
[03:59] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: sm4k does that
[04:00] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: you need a client to view your network its that simple
[04:00] <monster> yes sir
[04:00] <leafw> monster : good!
[04:00] <monster> hopefully these drivers will work with ndiswrapper
[04:00] <monster> pretty sure they will
[04:00] <CaptainMorgan> wiki.ubuntu doesn't seem to have smb4k or sm4k.. link?
[04:04] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: google it
[04:05] <monster> ok
[04:05] <monster> when i get to modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:06] <monster> modules isnt found
[04:06] <monster> module
[04:07] <m5m> aseigo: I was able to add the app I wanted to ~/.kde/Autostart/ thanks for your time
[04:07] <aseigo> m5m: np
[04:07] <m5m> What's the difference between cron and anacron and which do folks use?
[04:08] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: smb4k is in universe, so if you have setup universe in your package manager you can   sudo apt-get install smb4k
[04:09] <CaptainMorgan> now you tell me.. after Im half way done with NFS on wiki.ubuntu ;(
[04:10] <linux_galore> m5m: you use anacron if the system is powered down every day
[04:10] <m5m> I mean does anyone still prefer cron if anacron can delay jobs when the system isn't on?  I notice that by default both crontab and anacrontab have entries in them.  I thought anacron replaces cron
[04:10] <linux_galore> m5m: there pretty much the same other than that
[04:10] <m5m> anacron can do everything cron does right linux_galore ?
[04:11] <linux_galore> yep
[04:11] <m5m> okies thank you
[04:12] <linux_galore> m5m: beware anacron isnt a full time daemon so you have to have a script setup to run it
[04:12] <m5m> oh, that reminds me, does anyone ever use anacron to shutdown the system?  That's got to be possible right?  perhaps cron is what I want, in case it is powered down early...  I manage a bunch of machines (mostly kubuntu) in a classroom, and I sometimes forget to shut them down
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> linux_galore: didt he sudo apt-get for smb4k and it was successful... but where is it now?
[04:13] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: type smb4k
[04:13] <m5m> linux_galore: Under kde's system settings it says anacron is set to run at boot
[04:14] <linux_galore> m5m: so the startup script is done
[04:15] <linux_galore> m5m: its not a daemon though so it runs "once"
[04:15] <nalioth> Hobbsee: are you at your channel limit?
[04:16] <Hobbsee> nalioth: well, it gets hard to fit them along my screen
[04:16] <linux_galore> m5m: if the system is up for long periods just stick to cron
[04:16] <nalioth> missing you in -offtopic, is why i was wondering
[04:17] <m5m> linux_galore: does it seem plausible to you to set shutdown -h now to run daily at 3:15 pm for my classroom?
[04:18] <m5m> linux_galore: as a crontab entry?
[04:18] <linux_galore> m5m: yes thats pretty normal
[04:18] <m5m> although I think shutdown requires sudo/root, I can probably change that in user/groups
[04:18] <m5m> ok, excellent
[04:19] <linux_galore> m5m: from memory theres a kde app called "kshutdown" that does the same thing
[04:19] <m5m> too bad I can't set them to boot up at a given time
[04:19] <m5m> oh, thanks
[04:20] <linux_galore> m5m: actually that can be done too, there are after market add on timers for PC's that cant startup and you use cron to shut it down
[04:20] <CaptainMorgan> linux_galore: where's smb4k installed to by default?
[04:20] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: type whereis  smb4k
[04:21] <CaptainMorgan> Ive got it seeing the network.. but still unable to connect
[04:21] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: you may have to configure it
[04:21] <linux_galore> smb4k that is
[04:23] <CaptainMorgan> under Configure SMB4K, doesn't really have a whole lot of options... where exactly do I configure it?
[04:23] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: nice howto oh setting up window/linux file sharing -> http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMicrosoftWindowsNetworkIntegration.html
[04:25] <Search4Lancer_> Anyone have any idea how to get pics off a Sony Mavica via USB? Linux interperets it as a file, rather than a folder full of files, or whatever
[04:25] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: I suspect you may have a permissions problem the howto tell you how to fix that
[04:26] <linux_galore> Search4Lancer: I use digicam with my Sony cam works
[04:27] <Search4Lancer> thanks
[04:27] <Search4Lancer> now, I just need to fix those apt problems....
[04:28] <MrObvious> !mp3
[04:28] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:28] <CaptainMorgan> I keep getting a damned error when trying to get the list of workgroup members...
[04:29] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: past the error into  www.goog.com/linux
[04:29] <linux_galore> google.com/linux   typo
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> uhm... "An error occurred while trying to get the list of workgroup members."
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> doesn't say specificly
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> not even under Details
[04:30] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: did you sudo chmod a+t /usr/bin/smbmnt
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> actually, it says under Details, Connection to Workgroup failed
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> yes
[04:32] <Search4Lancer> Captain Morgan is my cat's name....
[04:34] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[04:34] <CaptainMorgan> can you cat help me connect to a local net?
[04:34] <Search4Lancer> who, me? heavens no, I can't even solve my own problems, nonetheless anyone elses
[04:35] <linux_galore> CaptainMorgan: this page has the most common faults people have with smb4k and how to fix them -> http://cvs.berlios.de/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/smb4k/smb4k/FAQ?rev=HEAD&only_witd_tag=HEAD&content-type=text/plain
[04:39] <CaptainMorgan> didn't see mine on there... close but not quite
[04:39] <CaptainMorgan> this sux
[04:41] <_rob> Hi
[04:41] <_rob> How is everyone tonight?/
[04:42] <_rob> 
[04:43] <CaptainMorgan> horrible
[04:43] <CaptainMorgan> you know how to connect to a local network?
[04:43] <CaptainMorgan> or configure it?
[04:44] <nnn0> hm is your workgroup name the same as it is on the network ?
[04:45] <CaptainMorgan> yes
[04:45] <CaptainMorgan> smb4k sees it but can't connect
[04:45] <nnn0> did you try to connect to a spesific share, not just view all shares
[04:46] <_rob> how do you find other channels on here?
[04:47] <_rob> my first time on here
[04:47] <elijahlofgren> _rob: Other Ubuntu channels, or all freenode channels?
[04:48] <_rob> ok ty\
[04:48] <_rob> i don't know?
[04:48] <_rob> I see the kubunto button below
[04:49] <_rob> Hi all
[04:49] <_rob> is anyone from Upstate ny here?
[04:51] <CaptainMorgan> nnn0: yes - but it didn't connect
[04:52] <nnn0> hm
[04:59] <l33t_n00b> is there anyway to change the color of the folders in konqueror?
[05:00] <elijahlofgren> l33t_n00b: A different icon theme should do it.
[05:01] <l33t_n00b> elijahlofgren: do you know of any icon theme of the top of your head that does this?
[05:02] <l33t_n00b> the generic theme does not right?
[05:04] <elijahlofgren> l33t_n00b: The default is blue, I'm not sure which other icon themes change folder colors.
[05:04] <l33t_n00b> elijahlofgren: ok thanks
[05:05] <elijahlofgren> l33t_n00b: Here's one that's pink/red folders: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4914
[05:06] <winbond> does ubuntu clone user files??    /media/sda2/home/user and /media/sda3,    i have /home on a different partition the /root and it eppears like its cloninf files in these 2 directories
[05:07] <winbond> ==/media/sda3/user
[05:31] <_ubuntu> would anyone here happen to know the defeault root password for kubuntu?  i'm using the live cd and all I've seen is to use sudo -s.
[05:32] <lengau> By default root is disabled, I believe
[05:32] <_ubuntu> Oh alright.
[05:32] <_ubuntu> thanks
[05:32] <lengau> you're welcome.
[05:32] <jii> you can be root
[05:32] <Hobbsee> !root
[05:32] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:33] <_ubuntu> Alright
[05:33] <_ubuntu> thanks for the info
[05:35] <_ubuntu> This is a lot better than trying to get help in the Computer chatroom in aim.
[05:36] <_ubuntu> AIM is terrible with bots.
[05:38] <lengau> Some IRC chatrooms have lots of bots too, but I agree. This chartoom is extremely well maintained.
[05:48] <Sc[_] tt> evening all
[05:50] <Sc[_] tt> just installed 6.06 and wehn using adept to get packages, it's asking me to insert the cd labled 'kubuntu 6.06_dapper-drake...blah blah instead of just downloading the file and installing it like before... i'm blind and go digging through piles of documentation it would take forever, please let me know what to change to make it stop asking for the cd, or do i have to create another cd and change the label?  geez this has been a pain
[05:50] <Hobbsee> Sc[_] tt: type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:51] <Hobbsee> and stick a # in front of the top line, which talks about the cd
[05:51] <Hobbsee> then hit ctrl+x, y, to save, and the next time you update, it wont ask for the cd
[05:51] <winbond> == system:/media/sda3 is my /home mount point, system:/media/sda2 is my / mount point  ,  i have /home/user in sda3 and sda2, it clones files in these 2 directories, how can i fix it?
[05:52] <Sc[_] tt> ahh ok, so the cd is in the sources list now... ok great, i'll rem it out!  it wouldn't have taken me forever to figure that out, using speech and all, thanks Hobbsee, i knew it had to be something simple
[05:52] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:52] <Sc[_] tt> wouldn't=would
[05:53] <Sc[_] tt> geez every time i come in here, i always find someone willing to help... nothing like a lot of the other linux chans on the net, thanks
[05:54] <Sc[_] tt> have a good night
[05:54] <Hobbsee> Sc[_] tt: :)  i'ts still sunday in a fair few places
[05:54] <Hobbsee> you usually getmore help on weekdays
[05:54] <Hobbsee> winbond: i'd imagine that has something do to with your fstab maybe?  i dont know
[05:55] <Sc[_] tt> i usually pop in to watch or ask something about every day, usually someone helping ppl, is a nice change to see it working the way it should
[05:55] <winbond> how can i install a .deb program?
[05:55] <Sc[_] tt> thanks again, night
[06:07] <Snake> sdolnack: still in here eh?
[06:08] <Snake> Heya Hobbsee
[06:16] <_sledge_> good night everyone
[06:17] <JairunCaloth> is anyone else having problems with the dapper install CD? Specificly, when I choose to manually edit the partition tables, it crashes
[06:17] <crimsun_> JairunCaloth: the live cd, you mean?
[06:17] <crimsun_> JairunCaloth: (using the graphical installer)
[06:17] <JairunCaloth> yes
[06:17] <JairunCaloth> and yes
[06:17] <crimsun_> yes, that's a known issue.
[06:18] <crimsun_> 200+ bug reports on it.
[06:18] <JairunCaloth> heh, any sort of workaround for that right now?
[06:18] <crimsun_> use the alternate install CD
[06:18] <JairunCaloth> do you have to boot into the liveCD to install from it?
[06:19] <crimsun_> yes
[06:19] <crimsun_> (the alternate install CD is completely separate)
[06:19] <JairunCaloth> so the alt CD is just an install cd
[06:19] <crimsun_> JairunCaloth: it's a text-based install cd. It's not a live cd.
[06:20] <JairunCaloth> I see, thanks for the help :)
[06:20] <defrysk> its the "old school" cd
[06:20] <crimsun_> np
[06:26] <CaptainMorgan> what's the hotkeys for switching between terminals/shells on konsole?
[06:27] <gobbe> alt-fX
[06:27] <gobbe> for example alt-f1
[06:28] <gobbe> or if you mean kde's konsole then shift-arrow
[06:28] <CaptainMorgan> yes.. shift-arrow thanks
[06:28] <CaptainMorgan> nice
[06:28] <mobtek> thats a huge bug in the installer, pity it wasn't caught sooner
[06:29] <CaptainMorgan> hm... my installer was fine...
[06:29] <crimsun_> mobtek: time is always an issue.
[06:30] <mobtek> crimsun_: heh
[06:30] <sdolnack> good evenihg
[06:31] <mobtek> just good for my wife's machine only has one hdd
[06:34] <CaptainMorgan> how about a hotkey for Kopete - switching between contacts while talking? (tabs are at the bottom etc..
[06:35] <Hobbsee> ctrl+ it seems
[06:36] <Hobbsee> ah
[06:36] <Hobbsee> CaptainMorgan: ctrl+, or ctrl+.
[06:36] <chavo> also for tabs ctrl-, and ctrl.
[06:36] <chavo> oh your too quick
[06:36] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:36] <firephoto>  , . , . <--- heh
[06:36] <CaptainMorgan> ctrl what?
[06:37] <CaptainMorgan> just ctrl?
[06:37] <firephoto> comma n period
[06:37] <CaptainMorgan> cuz that don't work
[06:37] <CaptainMorgan> oh shit
[06:37] <defrysk> ctrl what? doesnt do anything
[06:37] <CaptainMorgan> gotcha
[06:37] <CaptainMorgan> nice
[06:37] <firephoto> lol
[06:37] <chavo> it used to work in the konversation window too, but now it doesn't.
[06:37] <CaptainMorgan> weird hotkeys I think.......
[06:37] <firephoto> konvi is alt+left/right i think
[06:38] <chavo> you can change all of them, and you can use mouse gestures system wide too
[06:38] <CaptainMorgan> yuck - konvi's hotkeys are not efficient...
[06:38] <firephoto> mouse gesture isn't too handy for moving tabs on a text input type thing. ;)
[06:39] <chavo> no but it's cool for browsing
[06:39] <firephoto> seems easier here just to click the desired tab when browsing. heh
[06:40] <CaptainMorgan> what the heck is a mouse gesture?
[06:40] <firephoto> ctrl+shift+left/right moves tabs in konqueror for anyone that didn't know. (to add to the tab shortcut info)
[06:41] <CaptainMorgan> where can I make adjustments? Regional & accessiblity/input actions? having some trouble finding it...
[06:42] <chavo> no go to Keyboard SHortcuts for simple keybord stuff
[06:42] <CaptainMorgan> omg... overlooked that one
[06:42] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[06:43] <chavo> input actions is for the mouse gestures and more complicated things, like doing more than one thing with a key combo
[06:43] <defrysk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_gestures
[06:43] <CaptainMorgan> Id like to adjust hot's for konvi... that in shortcuts?
[06:44] <chavo> you can use koni's settings too
[06:44] <chavo> settings -> Configure Shortcuts
[06:46] <CaptainMorgan> omg - who the hell said alt + left/right ?? I found it defaulted to alt (number) so alt-1 or alt-2 etc....
[06:46] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[07:00] <orient2000> I am downloading website with a program HTTrack Website. Does anybody have any idea what I can find in these files? I am not a hacker but i find this program very interesting.
[07:01] <sdolnack> what files?
[07:02] <orient2000> the entire website   all files
[07:02] <nnn0> can't you use wget to grab sites
[07:02] <sdolnack> you mean using httrack?
[07:02] <nnn0> no using wget
[07:02] <nnn0> like wget -m url -nv -a ~/home.log
[07:02] <nnn0> :)
[07:03] <sdolnack> no i mean torient
[07:03] <nnn0> k
[07:03] <sdolnack> orient2000: are you asking how to use httrack?
[07:03] <sdolnack> orient2000: or how to access the files you download?
[07:03] <orient2000> yes httrack  I have to find wget
[07:03] <nnn0> wget is standard
[07:03] <sdolnack> mm hmm
[07:03] <nnn0> you should have it allready
[07:03] <nnn0> just try: man wget
[07:04] <orient2000> I want access site to e-mail to one of nice girls:)
[07:04] <nnn0> ehehe
[07:05] <sdolnack> uhhh
[07:05] <sdolnack> haha
[07:06] <orient2000> where can I find wget?
[07:06] <sdolnack> it's built in
[07:06] <sdolnack> it comes with linux
[07:06] <orient2000> I am in Kubuntu but do not see it.
[07:07] <sdolnack> orient2000:  you run it from the command line
[07:08] <sdolnack> open Konsole
[07:08] <sdolnack> type wget -m (the website's url) -nv -a ~/home.log
[07:09] <orient2000> wget -m url -nv -a ~/home.log but why home.log?
[07:09] <sdolnack> no idea
[07:09] <orient2000> OK I will try Thanks.
[07:16] <Kadran> where is JAVA_HOME should point to?
[07:18] <CaptainMorgan> wow.. Konvi's autoconnect to a number of channels is a beaut
[07:19] <Hobbsee> CaptainMorgan: yep :)  and servers, if you wish
[07:25] <CaptainMorgan> what debuggers are available besides Xlst ?
[07:25] <CaptainMorgan> I need my gdb... apt-get install gdb?
[07:26] <aseigo> `apt-cache search gdb` is your friend =)
[07:27] <osiris_> can someone help me
[07:27] <CaptainMorgan> maybe
[07:27] <osiris_> dapper just wont install to the mbr
[07:27] <osiris_> its a dual boot box
[07:27] <CaptainMorgan> aseigo: now what did that command do?
[07:27] <CaptainMorgan> list of repos debuggers?
[07:27] <CaptainMorgan> I can stinall?
[07:27] <aseigo> CaptainMorgan: is searches the available packages
[07:28] <osiris_> it was dual booting fine with mandriva, and the boot drive is sata
[07:28] <CaptainMorgan> so apt-cache search *application* works nicely i assume..
[07:28] <aseigo> yep
[07:29] <aseigo> or, you could also do sth like this:
[07:29] <aseigo> apt-cache search debugger | grep -v "\-dbg" | less
[07:29] <aseigo> which would search for "debugger" but exclude all the -dbg packages (which are specially built packages with debug info) and send them through a pager
[07:30] <CaptainMorgan> sweet...
[07:32] <duane> hey my screen isn't bright enough, how do I change it?
[07:33] <CaptainMorgan> settings/appearance and themes ?
[07:33] <CaptainMorgan> or your hardware
[07:33] <duane> hardware
[07:33] <duane> its already at its max setting
[07:33] <CaptainMorgan> no - the adjustment is in 'settings/appearance and themes' or it's on your hardware - ie: buttons
[07:34] <duane> CaptainMorgan: it is on my hardware
[07:34] <duane> but its already at its max setting
[07:34] <duane> but its still not as bright as it is in windows
[07:42] <Toge> do you know a pdf editor?
[07:47] <aseigo> Toge: as in "open an existing pdf and make changes to it" or as in "make a pdf from scratch"?
[07:47] <BluDog_Anchorite> hasanyone here installed kubuntu on a sata drive
[07:47] <aseigo> my laptop has a sata drive, if that counts
[07:48] <BluDog_Anchorite> why wont it write to the mbr
[07:48] <Toge> aseigo make changes
[07:48] <BluDog_Anchorite> grub and lilo both refure to get their asses in line
[07:49] <aseigo> Toge: hm.. not really.. kword will open a pdf file and then you can edit it and print to pdf again ... but nothing extraodinarily elegant that i know of.
[07:49] <Toge> kword = koffice?
[07:50] <aseigo> Toge: yes
[07:50] <Toge> installing koffice
[07:53] <m5m> anyone aware of a gradebook program for teachers?
[08:00] <defrysk> otherwise try openoffice
[08:03] <aseigo> m5m: hm.. what do you need it do exactly>
[08:21] <Lunar_Raven> could anyone paste me their kdmrc file at pastebin, please?
[08:22] <Lunar_Raven> I seemed to have screwed mine up to no repaire
[08:22] <Lunar_Raven> :D
[08:22] <Lunar_Raven> repair*
[08:22] <mobtek> what happens when you reinstall kdm?
[08:22] <Lunar_Raven> ohh good point
[08:22] <Lunar_Raven> i could try that
[08:29] <smyke> hi, i messed up mz upgrade to dapper. mz networkcard xircom in thinkpad is not recognized, anz hints how to solve?
[08:29] <smyke> my, any
[08:30] <smyke> sorry for my typing, but this machine has qwerty lazout which I am not used too
[08:36] <exceswater> hi all
[08:37] <r0xz> i am looking for a cms or blog system for people that aren't that good with working with computers in general. What is a recommended system to supply?
[08:37] <yoshu> r0xz: ssh and vi :)
[08:38] <yoshu> r0xz: I too would like such a system
[08:38] <GazzaK> r0xz: is this for a personal website?
[08:38] <yoshu> or would like to tell people about it
[08:40] <r0xz> Gazzak: yes, it's for my parents, they want some information in it with some media
[08:40] <GazzaK> yoshu & r0xz - tried looking at websitebaker - http://www.websitebaker.org  I use it for my personal website and it works great - it is simple enough, and dead easy to use.
[08:40] <r0xz> ok, will look at it
[08:40] <GazzaK> have a look at www.kearley.net - thats my site and yes it looks simple, but that suits me
[08:40] <r0xz> thanks
[08:41] <smyke> does anyone have an idea how to get my xircom nic recognized ?
[08:41] <yoshu> GazzaK thnkx, what's the swf test? :)
[08:42] <GazzaK> try it, it is a test screen capture recording
[08:43] <yoshu> eh.. not big on flash
[08:43] <GazzaK> I was testing a way to record the screen, including the mouse movements etc, and that did it quite well
[08:43] <GazzaK> got to have a flash player installed though yoshu
[08:44] <yoshu> yeah, I prefer not to
[08:44] <Kadran> hi i have an applet that work in kde and doesn't work in xfc any help?
[08:44] <Kadran> i want it to work in xfc as kde
[08:46] <yoshu> sleep
[08:49] <RawSewage> I figured out a way to make your computer 100% safe from hackers
[08:50] <duane> hey i have a folder that I want to make  "shortcut" to like in windows. How do I do that in kde?
[08:51] <GazzaK> RawSewage: does it involve cutting a little black cable going to the phone line? :)
[08:51] <RawSewage> yes
[08:51] <GazzaK> duane: right click desktop, create new, link to location (URL)
[08:52] <GazzaK> RawSewage: that works very well, but is a little defeatest
[08:52] <RawSewage> no, it's very empowering
[08:52] <GazzaK> maybe, but kinda pointless
[08:54] <RawSewage> not if you have to get things done and cant be distracted
[08:56] <lowtech> that's just sad
[08:59] <GazzaK> and paranoid
[09:07] <Lunar_Raven> oi that didnt fix it.  Could someone please paste me the kdmrc file :P
[09:07] <Lunar_Raven> kubuntu dapper
[09:08] <Mosi> Does anyone know how i can get Rhythmbox to play MP3s?
[09:08] <GazzaK> !mp3
[09:09] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:09] <Mosi> thanks
[09:09] <GazzaK> mosi - see that link :)
[09:09] <Lunar_Raven> !kdmrc
[09:09] <ubotu> Lunar_Raven: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:10] <RawSewage> do you mean kderc
[09:10] <RawSewage> !kderc
[09:10] <ubotu> RawSewage: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:10] <RawSewage> guess not
[09:10] <Lunar_Raven> no, it's under /etc/kde3/kdm/kdrc
[09:11] <Lunar_Raven> i accidently messed it up while trying to figure out xgl
[09:11] <RawSewage> oh, I messed around with that too, so mine is probably messed up
[09:11] <RawSewage> I gave up
[09:11] <Lunar_Raven> heh
[09:11] <Lunar_Raven> I got xgl working for the most part, but it was rather buggy
[09:11] <Lunar_Raven> and took up too much memory
[09:12] <Lunar_Raven> and then killed my kdm randomly
[09:12] <Lunar_Raven> :D
[09:13] <defrysk> sudo apt-get remove kdm --purge ; sudo apt-get install kdm
[09:13] <defrysk> try that
[09:15] <Lunar_Raven> I did try removing/installing
[09:15] <Lunar_Raven> what does purge do?
[09:16] <nik> hello
[09:16] <defrysk> Lunar_Raven, removes the configiles also
[09:16] <defrysk> just do as I said ;0
[09:16] <nik> I would like to know how to remove this colorful kdm theme from kbuntu - I want just a plain kdm...
[09:16] <defrysk> $#%^ keyboard
[09:17] <linux_galore> nik: www.kde-look.org  you can change the kdm theme in kcontrol
[09:17] <defrysk> nik, systemsettings > kde thememanager
[09:17] <Lunar_Raven> haha yessir
[09:17] <Lunar_Raven> I will in a moment
[09:17] <Lunar_Raven> :)
[09:17] <defrysk> kdm thememanager that is ;p
[09:17] <nixternal> that is of course if he has kdm-thememanager installed
[09:17] <Lunar_Raven> finishing homework that I dont want to do
[09:18] <nik> thx...
[09:18] <defrysk> nik, als sudo apt-get install kde-kdm-themes
[09:19] <defrysk> and kdmtheme if you dont have it that is
[09:21] <nik> I've installed kdetheme already, thx
[09:21] <nik> btw, kcontrol == system settings - just look is different?
[09:21] <apokryphos> nik: more or less, yes.
[09:21] <defrysk> nik, look is different
[09:22] <nik> ok :)
[09:23] <defrysk> kcontrol is more like gnome style I think
[09:23] <defrysk> not kcontrol , ksystemsettings i mean
[09:23] <aseigo> s,gnome,macos,
[09:24] <defrysk> man its hot here :s
[09:27] <nik> so...installed kde-kdm-themes, but there is only one theme listed in the kdm theme manager
[09:29] <nico8481> h
[09:29] <nico8481> hi
[09:43] <mobtek> ok kubuntu live cd installer, kudos, bloody excellent work
[09:46] <lowtech> i found the install of kubuntu a bit odd when creating partitions. A person wants to create partitions not a partition table as it said.
[09:49] <lk> Q: 1st use Kubuntu Dapper
[09:49] <lk> Q: how to add "VierMode" button in Konqueror's Toolbar ?
[09:57] <captainbraille> I removed a few items from my K menu that were in the Wine group, and now when I install anything on my computer it doesn't show up in my K menu. Does anyone have any suggestions to how I would fix that?
[09:59] <chavo> captainbraille, you can remove or rename ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu
[09:59] <chavo> that will set it back to default
[10:00] <captainbraille> chavo, thanks a lot! I'll check that out right now
[10:07] <insanekane> hi ... does anyone face the video corruption bug in installer ?
[10:09] <mobtek> hmm whats the default root password after the install?
[10:09] <rob> no root, use sudo
[10:09] <rob> !sudo
[10:09] <ubotu> [sudo]  a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:09] <mobtek> ahh ok
[10:10] <rob> when it asks for your password, thats the password for your normal user account
[10:16] <RawSewage> how do I fix my Konqueror so the default isnt Huge Icons
[10:16] <RawSewage> Im using the default Konq settings, not the Kubuntu settings
[10:17] <chavo> RawSewage, if you zoom down it should remember the size
[10:17] <RawSewage> it does for each folder
[10:17] <RawSewage> but when I open an unlearned folder, I have to spend 10 seconds shrinking the icons
[10:17] <chavo> RawSewage, go to Apperance and themes, icons, adavnced tab
[10:17] <RawSewage> ok
[10:17] <chavo> man I still can't type
[10:19] <RawSewage> Desktop/File manager?
[10:20] <RawSewage> still not working
[10:21] <RawSewage> maybe I need to restart
[10:21] <chavo> that's wierd mine uses the same size for each directory, if I zoom in it zooms everyone
[10:21] <RawSewage> oh, Im not using Kubuntu default KDE
[10:21] <RawSewage> I mean Konq
[10:21] <RawSewage> Kubuntu removes many Konqueror options
[10:21] <RawSewage> I restored them
[10:22] <insanekane> I dont understand how sudo is better for securty
[10:23] <apokryphos> insanekane: that's not its main advantage. The security model is essentially the same in both, so they're both subject to the same security flaws in that regard (more-or-less).
[10:23] <apokryphos> sudo is still the superior model though, because of the options it provides
[10:24] <Mosi> insanekane: security in that case refers to the secure-against-stupid-mistakes aspect :) we all make them every now and then
[10:24] <chavo> once you get used to it it's really easier too, just takes a while
[10:25] <chavo> if you come from a long history of usin su
[10:25] <scheuri> hi all
[10:25] <insanekane> well, i use sudo a lot ... just dont get it :)
[10:26] <apokryphos> what don't you get?
[10:28] <insanekane> apokryphos: you said, that isn't its main advantage ... what *is* its main advantage ?
[10:29] <smyke> it prevents you from staying logged in as root
[10:29] <apokryphos> insanekane: not much of a difference on a single-user distro (apart from vaguely suggesting some good policies). Clear examples of where it triumphs is a more traditional mainframe organisation
[10:29] <noiesmo> yes but if the user has a weak password then they can be comprimised to if thae user is a sudoer
[10:30] <apokryphos> insanekane: with sudo you can grant a given user (or a given group) power to run a given app with given priviledges
[10:30] <smyke> isn#t this a topic for #kubuntu-offtopic?
[10:30] <apokryphos> smyke: no
[10:31] <apokryphos> insanekane: for example, in the mainframe organisation you have two elite sys admins, and say 10 operators, and some n users
[10:31] <insanekane> apokryphos: so, why is it in kubuntu ?
[10:31] <apokryphos> you don't want the mortal operators mucking up the whole network, but you'll want to give them access over other things. You get the idea.
[10:31] <apokryphos> insanekane: because it's hands-down the superior model.
[10:32] <chavo> you can grant permissions on a per application basis
[10:32] <insanekane> apokryphos: :)
[10:32] <chavo> or give to all people in a group
[10:36] <firepol> Hi, I added the bookmarks applet in my taskbar. When I click a link, konqueror opens it in a new tab, but the window stays in background. How can I configure it so that the window will become to the foreground when I load a new link?
[10:44] <r0xz> GazzK: thanks again..., i think this websitebaker is a really good tool :)  (i will try www.s9y.org too tomorrow)
[10:45] <r0xz> GazzaK: thanks again..., i think this websitebaker is a really good tool :)  (i will try www.s9y.org too tomorrow)
[10:45] <Mosi> Anyone know how to extract intact files from an incomplete .rar?
[10:50] <heinkel_111> hi
[10:50] <heinkel_111> can someone please give me a clue: what is the equivalent of tracert (windows) in linux?
[10:52] <noiesmo> heinkel_111, traceroute
[10:52] <GazzaK> cool r0xz glad to be of service
[10:56] <morrow> heinkel_111: you can also use tracepath
[10:56] <morrow> which is included in the default install
[10:56] <edulix> hi!
[11:02] <heinkel_111> morrow..thank you
[11:03] <heinkel_111> noiesmo: you too ;)
[11:03] <heinkel_111> but i don't have traceroute..do I need to install it separately?
[11:04] <chavo> heinkel_111, yes it's not there by default
[11:04] <heinkel_111> ok, thank you
[11:24] <MetaMorfoziS> Anybody please help me! My tty is very nasty: http://metamorfozis.hu/p/tty.jpg i dunno why, i have driver, and direct rendering enabled, this is an s3 unichrome videocard, in a notebook [amd 2000 with 256ram] 
[11:24] <MetaMorfoziS> ho can i fix this?
[11:37] <linux_galore> MetaMorfoziS: need to boot into safe mode and redo your settings
[11:45] <kimec> i guys,I'm running kubuntu dapper drake 6.06 RC and have samba(3.0.22) set to "share" level but no body can access shared folders on my computer. I found "smb signing is incompatible with share level security !" message in /var/log/samba/log.xx files. Any advice?
[11:59] <noiesmo> !tell noiesmo about xgl
[12:01] <exceswater> hello
[12:02] <exceswater> i have a question about kubuntu ... can some1 help me ?
[12:02] <nik> just ask...
[12:02] <exceswater> i just installed kubuntu... i am new to linux
[12:02] <exceswater> i see that i have amarok... for music play
[12:03] <exceswater> but when i hit "play"
[12:03] <exceswater> nothing happens
[12:03] <exceswater> it seems like a cursor is speeding... but nothing plays
[12:03] <exceswater> why ?
[12:03] <chavo> teall exceswater about restrictedformats
[12:03] <exceswater> aha
[12:03] <chavo> tell exceswater about restrictedformats
[12:03] <exceswater> but it's an mp3
[12:04] <chavo> !mp3
[12:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:04] <exceswater> !tell exceswater about restrictedformats
[12:04] <noiesmo> exceswater, http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06
[12:04] <exceswater> thanks guys :D
[12:04] <exceswater> hope i manage this :D
[12:07] <shawn__> i have a multimedia keyboard i mapped the keys in a "wirelesskeyboard" file and i use "xmodmap ~/wirelesskeyboard" every time i log in. is there a way i can have this done automatically?
[12:09] <noiesmo> Rede-, put the file in /home/username/.kde/Autostart and make it excecuatable
[12:10] <Rede-> it will automatically know to run it with xmodmap?
[12:11] <noiesmo> Rede-, what every you are typing every time you want to change the keyboard maping is what should be in the executable file
[12:11] <noiesmo> every/ever
[12:12] <MetaMorfoziS> is there any howto to speed up kubuntu?
[12:12] <MetaMorfoziS> like disable services and etc..
[12:12] <defrysk> best howto is a roadmap to your local computerstore
[12:13] <MetaMorfoziS> hehe, or if i put to a plaint my laptop:D it's fast..
[12:13] <defrysk> MetaMorfoziS, and if you would like to speed kde up get the latest kde its much snapier
[12:13] <MetaMorfoziS> Qt: 3.3.6
[12:13] <MetaMorfoziS> KDE: 3.5.2
[12:13] <MetaMorfoziS> kde-config: 1.0
[12:13] <MetaMorfoziS> is it the latest?
[12:13] <defrysk> 3.5.3 is the lates
[12:13] <defrysk> t
[12:13] <MetaMorfoziS> yehheheyy! and where can i get it?
[12:14] <noiesmo> MetaMorfoziS, or try xfce desktop
[12:14] <defrysk> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[12:14] <MetaMorfoziS> no, xfce is unsimpatic because it's gtk..
[12:14] <MetaMorfoziS> and gnome panels...
[12:14] <defrysk> xfce = not kde noiesmo
[12:14] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm comforted in kicker and kde...
[12:15] <noiesmo> defrysk, yes I know it is just xfce is faster that kde but I love my kde just saying is all :)
[12:15] <defrysk> switched from gnome to kde 3.5.3 actually
[12:15] <MetaMorfoziS> i always loved kde, i'm kde fan:D
[12:15] <defrysk> used gnome for 3 yrs
[12:15] <defrysk> and switched back to kde
[12:15] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ with 2days of gnome
[12:15] <MetaMorfoziS> and all other with kde:D
[12:16] <chavo> and still a noob
[12:16] <MetaMorfoziS> at home i tryed all, xfce blackbox fluxbox gnome kde...
[12:16] <MetaMorfoziS> but kde is the best.)
[12:16] <defrysk> well 3.5.3 is the first kde I "like" since gnome 2* came out
[12:17] <mundial> which is easier ghome or kde?
[12:17] <noiesmo> kde
[12:17] <defrysk> mundial, depends on your habits
[12:17] <defrysk> gnome is easyer to use
[12:17] <defrysk> kde is more versatile but also more bloat
[12:18] <MetaMorfoziS> i thin kde, in kcontrol...
[12:18] <defrysk> but 3.5.3 seems to handle that quite easyly
[12:18] <MetaMorfoziS> you can set all things you need, i don'T understand why ubuntu guy's maked own kde "system settings" <- it's crap
[12:18] <quique> everything in kde is more integrated that in gnome
[12:19] <defrysk> MetaMorfoziS, nothing wrong with it I think
[12:19] <defrysk> quique, dont agree
[12:19] <MetaMorfoziS> and in kde with kio blabla can open from ftp
[12:19] <MetaMorfoziS> if for ex in quanta you type ftp://usr@host.dom it lists that server, you can simply open and save
[12:20] <MetaMorfoziS> the gnome's filemanager can't do this...
[12:20] <defrysk> MetaMorfoziS, yes it can
[12:20] <MetaMorfoziS> [or i can't do it  under gnome anyway] 
[12:20] <chavo> gnome vfs can do that
[12:21] <defrysk> MetaMorfoziS, dont underesimate gnome ;)
[12:21] <chavo> it's not as cool or easy to use as kio slaves, but it works
[12:21] <viper> hola
[12:21] <MetaMorfoziS> i fully respect to all wm
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> i wonder how many work in thats
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> and how many good better support channel/forum... i wonder about this world... thats why i use linux:)
[12:23] <MetaMorfoziS> where can i find the changelog abotu 3.5.3?
[12:24] <Bazzi> kde.org
[12:24] <MetaMorfoziS> hm!:)
[12:24] <defrysk> http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.3.php
[12:27] <MetaMorfoziS> is somewhere a query or test how many users have use kde or gnome ?
[12:27] <defrysk> on average most people use kde
[12:27] <MetaMorfoziS> and how many ubuntu user in the word
[12:27] <MetaMorfoziS> l
[12:27] <MetaMorfoziS> and how many linux users...
[12:28] <MetaMorfoziS> i need statistics:D
[12:28] <defrysk> in ubuntu most use gnome i think
[12:28] <Bazzi> on average most use kde?
[12:28] <MetaMorfoziS> yes it's based on gnome...
[12:28] <MetaMorfoziS> kubuntu and xubuntu is secodnary...
[12:28] <MetaMorfoziS> :(
[12:28] <nico8481> #ubuntu: 848 nicks / #kubuntu: 225 nicks
[12:28] <defrysk> Bazzi, most of the linux users that is , not talking about ubuntu
[12:29] <MetaMorfoziS> yes..
[12:29] <farous> defrysk: most of the users perhaps you know ;)
[12:29] <Bazzi> defrysk: how do you come to that conclusion? most distris I see support gnome first
[12:29] <defrysk> farous, on most polls you see a majority using kde
[12:29] <farous> for fedora is based on gnome bu default too
[12:29] <MetaMorfoziS> but why?
[12:29] <MetaMorfoziS> it's older?
[12:29] <MetaMorfoziS> or it's better!?
[12:30] <farous> defrysk: frankly depend where you are. us many perfer gnome. euor many prefer kde
[12:30] <nico8481> and yes kde is older
[12:30] <farous> but MetaMorfoziS you need to search for correct stats
[12:30] <defrysk> farous, possibly no biggie
[12:31] <MetaMorfoziS> kde is older? hm
[12:31] <farous> defrysk: cheers friend :)
[12:31] <defrysk> kde is older I think
[12:31] <nico8481> they started gnome because the kde libs were non-free (they are free now)
[12:32] <defrysk> on some old suse box
[12:32] <nico8481> well, the toolkit or whatever it's called :)
[12:32] <MetaMorfoziS> but qt is not free for industrial using so it1s non-free
[12:32] <farous> qt libs?
[12:32] <defrysk> trolltech is the company gnome people are not too happy with
[12:33] <defrysk> qt has 2 licences afaIk
[12:33] <MetaMorfoziS> yes^^
[12:33] <defrysk> one for commercial use and one for free use (and also open)
[12:34] <exceswater> the noob is back
[12:34] <defrysk> gtk2 is open and free
[12:34] <exceswater> about that problem with amarok :d
[12:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i found a little newS:http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/KDE_v_Gnome_history
[12:34] <exceswater> i cannot make it work
[12:34] <defrysk> exceswater, did you get the xinecodecs ?
[12:34] <exceswater> defrysk:  nope mate :D
[12:34] <exceswater> i looked in adept
[12:34] <defrysk> exceswater, then it wont work pal :D
[12:35] <exceswater> i understand this
[12:35] <exceswater> it's about the codecs
[12:35] <exceswater> but i looked on amarok home page
[12:35] <exceswater> i looked in adept
[12:35] <defrysk> exceswater, did you add the repos ? (universe multiverse )
[12:35] <chavo> !repos
[12:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:36] <defrysk> exceswater, read ubotu 's message
[12:36] <exceswater> the problem is that :
[12:36] <exceswater> i look there
[12:36] <exceswater> i understand what i have to do...
[12:36] <exceswater> i am NOOB not stupid :D
[12:36] <exceswater> but there are only 2 lines with universe
[12:36] <exceswater> they are not restricted
[12:37] <defrysk> exceswater, unN00B yourself ;p
[12:37] <defrysk> later folks
[12:37] <becster> hmm how do I get kde to upgrade to 3.5.3, I've already put the mirrorservice repository in adept
[12:37] <becster> but if I request an upgrade I either get a remove or a break
[12:37] <exceswater> and 2 with something like... dapper - backports main restricted universe
[12:37] <farous> care defrysk
[12:37] <exceswater> bye
[12:37] <exceswater> thanks defrysk
[12:38] <farous> exceswater: write the repos witheout the backports part
[12:38] <farous> i was wondering why most people have this problem can you tell me which page you followed
[12:38] <farous> !tell exceswater about easysource
[12:39] <farous> exceswater: that is an excellent place for repos
[12:40] <becster> anyone?
[12:42] <MetaMorfoziS> "
[12:42] <MetaMorfoziS> my own experience shows that most new comers to linux who started with gnome all switch to KDE as soon as i show it to them. and they hardly look back."
[12:42] <MetaMorfoziS> :DD
[12:43] <Healot> there is nothing wrong with both desktop environment
[12:43] <farous> lol in my case it is the other way round
[12:43] <farous> but depends on what you feel comfrotable with
[12:44] <exceswater> farous
[12:44] <exceswater> you speak in an alien language for me
[12:44] <Healot> kfjsd kdslsdf
[12:44] <exceswater> i am self learner in linux :D
[12:44] <exceswater> and i am really noob
[12:44] <farous> exceswater: ok lol tell me what you want to do
[12:44] <exceswater> ok
[12:44] <exceswater> first
[12:44] <exceswater> i don't even know how to reg here :D
[12:45] <exceswater> but that is minor problem
[12:45] <MetaMorfoziS> http://pcburn.com/mod.php?mod=poll&op=results&pid=17&cid=0
[12:45] <exceswater> second
[12:45] <farous> !register
[12:45] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:45] <exceswater> !register
[12:45] <exceswater> hehe noob me
[12:45] <exceswater> second
[12:45] <exceswater> i just installed kubuntu
[12:45] <farous> exceswater: i was a user just like you
[12:46] <exceswater> i see that i have a player :D - amarok ... juk... and kaffeine
[12:46] <exceswater> something like that
[12:46] <farous> now i had to learn to tweak the sys. but i prefer to be a user than spend my time configuring :)
[12:46] <exceswater> i have an mp3
[12:46] <exceswater> and i cannot play it
[12:46] <exceswater> when i hit play in amarok
[12:46] <farous> !mp3
[12:46] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:46] <exceswater> i looked there
[12:47] <farous> exceswater: check this for all your beginner needs help.ubuntu.com
[12:47] <exceswater> it says something about adept / manage repositories
[12:47] <exceswater> etc
[12:47] <farous> yah
[12:47] <exceswater> but it seems like it's not working... or i am plain stupid
[12:47] <exceswater> i dunno how to put a printscreen of that window ...
[12:47] <exceswater> to see if i did right
[12:47] <farous> exceswater: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[12:48] <exceswater> hehe
[12:48] <exceswater> this is really funny
[12:48] <farous> sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:48] <exceswater> this is my third hour of linux
[12:50] <cristiano> hello people. my kicker has disappeared and i dunno how to make it appear again :(
[12:51] <exceswater> farous
[12:51] <exceswater> where i paste the text from there
[12:51] <farous> exceswater: waiting for you to open the file
[12:51] <exceswater> to see what i've donw
[12:51] <cristiano> anybody with clues for me?!? :(
[12:51] <exceswater> i have opened the file
[12:52] <farous> good
[12:52] <exceswater> now
[12:52] <farous> exceswater: now follow ubotu link
[12:52] <farous> !easysource
[12:52] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:53] <cristiano> how is possible that the kde kicker disappeared?!?
[12:53] <cristiano> !kicker
[12:53] <ubotu> cristiano: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:53] <farous> exceswater: now use it to generate the source file and repalce the one you have opened
[12:54] <farous> exceswater: dapper is the release and add universe and multiverse
[12:55] <cristiano> grrrrr i'm getting nervous on this kicker disappeared!!!
[12:56] <Healot> kick it,,,
[12:56] <cristiano> i tried but i dunno the process ID
[12:56] <farous> exceswater: how is it going
[12:57] <chavo> cristiano, is it running?
[12:57] <cristiano> yep it looks so but i can't see it
[12:57] <kimec> hi guys can anybody help me with samba(on dapper drake 6.06 RC)
[12:57] <chavo> try - dcop kicker kicker restart
[12:58] <cristiano> chavo: if i try running another kicker, it says that it is already running
[12:58] <cristiano> chavo: ok i try
[12:58] <MetaMorfoziS> killall kicker?
[12:58] <MetaMorfoziS> and kicker &?
[12:58] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[12:58] <cristiano> chavo: it worked thx!!!
[12:58] <defrysk> exceswater, free kick
[12:58] <chavo> :)
[12:59] <cristiano> MetaMorfoziS: they didn't work, only chavo method worked here, very strange
[12:59] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo killall kicker <- it's work:)
[12:59] <farous> exceswater: still there?
[01:00] <cristiano> MetaMorfoziS: i've tried that and i dunno but it didn't work...it's quite strange. chavo method was good instead
[01:00] <MetaMorfoziS> okok...:D
[01:01] <cristiano> MetaMorfoziS: thx however for ur help :)
[01:01] <MetaMorfoziS> not at all:)
[01:02] <cristiano> lol
[01:02] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[01:03] <cristiano> u've tried to help me even if it didn't work, that's the "lol" stand for ;)
[01:03] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm hungarian, and i'm don't understand you fully at this time, but if it work, we are all  happy:D
[01:04] <becster> hmmm I'm using this http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu in adept and whenever I try to upgrade kde I get breakages..anyone know how I upgrade kde to 3.5.3 using adept?
[01:04] <kimec> I there anybody who can help me setup samba correctly?
[01:04] <cristiano> MetaMorfoziS: ahhhhhhhhhh! ok "lol" stands for "laughing out loud" :D
[01:04] <MetaMorfoziS> becster: i recomend to you , use synaptic
[01:04] <becster> instead of adept?
[01:04] <MetaMorfoziS> cristiano: i knwo what is lol:)
[01:05] <cristiano> ^^
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> yes becster, this is gnoem's package manager, but i think "this is my own opinion" it's better
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> you can find in the descriptions, and for me it's more sympatic
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> but i dunno any other abotu the breaked packages,
[01:05] <becster> MetaMorfoziS: hmm prob, adept uninstalled konqueror :)
[01:06] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[01:06] <cristiano> becster: try "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main" as repository in adept
[01:06] <cristiano> it worked here
[01:06] <MetaMorfoziS> in terminal, apt-get install konqueror synaptic
[01:06] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[01:06] <cristiano> becster: i think is a prob of ur repository
[01:06] <defrysk> sudo apt-get indstall kubuntu-desktop to resolve the deps
[01:06] <defrysk> -d
[01:07] <becster> defrysk: oh ok
[01:10] <cristiano> mmmm i'm trying to compile superkaramba, i have gcc installed but it says that i don't have any c compiler! O__O
[01:10] <becster> E: Package kubuntu-desktop has no installation candidate
[01:10] <becster> heheh
[01:10] <MetaMorfoziS> hm:)
[01:10] <farous> install build-essential
[01:10] <hyphenated> hmm.. no kuickshow in dapper?
[01:10] <cristiano> farous: thx!
[01:11] <MetaMorfoziS> i hate all imageviewer in dapper:) the best is xnview:)
[01:11] <farous> :)
[01:11] <MetaMorfoziS> it's like irfaanview in win, [ http://xnview.org ] 
[01:12] <MetaMorfoziS> you can install itt like firefox, download and extract to /opt and sudo ln -s /opt/xnviewDIR/blabla/bin/xnview/ /usr/bin/xnview
[01:12] <MetaMorfoziS> it's fast and supports hundred's of extensions, can slideshow and multiconvert and a millions of function , but it's gui is simple.
[01:13] <RawSewage> cool
[01:13] <RawSewage> IrfanView was my favorite Windows viewer
[01:13] <MetaMorfoziS> detto
[01:14] <MetaMorfoziS> xnview can do all taht irf. can
[01:14] <MetaMorfoziS> i dunno why it isn't in the official repos...
[01:14] <RawSewage> downloading
[01:15] <defrysk> kuickshow here : http://www.ubuntu-debs.de/app/kuickshow/
[01:15] <RawSewage> how do I install an rpm again
[01:15] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[01:16] <MetaMorfoziS> not the rpm you need
[01:16] <RawSewage> tar gz?
[01:16] <MetaMorfoziS> moment i find for you
[01:16] <defrysk> go to the link i gave , there is a dapper .deb there
[01:16] <MetaMorfoziS> iirc yes, is there an option that have a binarie
[01:16] <RawSewage> kuickshow is xnview?
[01:16] <MetaMorfoziS> you tipe ./xnview and it runs, no compiling needs
[01:16] <MetaMorfoziS> nono
[01:17] <Healot> xnview comes with a "freeware" license just like irfanview
[01:17] <Healot> bleh
[01:18] <MetaMorfoziS> yes iirc it's not opensource
[01:18] <MetaMorfoziS> yes is there 2 optiono, the rpm and targz:)
[01:18] <Healot> that's why it has trouble getting into most GNU/Linux distros
[01:19] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ hoho! okay, i udnerstanded:)
[01:19] <MetaMorfoziS> so when you extracted your xnview is here: /opt/xnview/bin/xnview
[01:20] <RawSewage> defrysk, why are you talking about Kuickshow
[01:20] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo ln -s /opt/xnview/bin /usr/bin/xnview
[01:20] <MetaMorfoziS> because you or other body asked soemthing about it
[01:20] <RawSewage> im confused
[01:20] <defrysk> RawSewage, must be missing something , nm
[01:21] <RawSewage> so I download XnView-x86-unknown-linux2.x-static-fc4.tgz  ?
[01:21] <MetaMorfoziS> hmm i saw an install sh in the root dir of xnview:D i never used it:D
[01:21] <RawSewage> un zip it, and run install?
[01:21] <MetaMorfoziS> http://download.xnview.com/XnView-x86-unknown-linux2.x-static-fc4.tgz
[01:21] <MetaMorfoziS> i think install isn't needed i think it only creates symlinks
[01:22] <MetaMorfoziS> but yes, do an isntall:)
[01:22] <RawSewage> I have no clue how to install outside apps
[01:22] <RawSewage> I only know how to use built-in repos
[01:22] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo ./install
[01:22] <RawSewage> ok
[01:22] <defrysk> RawSewage, from source : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[01:22] <RawSewage> ty
[01:22] <MetaMorfoziS> it's not source
[01:22] <defrysk> ok
[01:22] <MetaMorfoziS> you not need to build/ompile it
[01:24] <RawSewage> sudo ./install doesnt work
[01:24] <MetaMorfoziS> in that directory where you extracted
[01:25] <exceswater> hi hguys
[01:25] <MetaMorfoziS> and extract it to /opt
[01:25] <MetaMorfoziS> hi again
[01:25] <exceswater> who can help me about that amaro
[01:25] <exceswater> amarok
[01:25] <exceswater> sorry
[01:25] <exceswater> it seems like i cannot instal drivers for it
[01:25] <RawSewage> ok, Im using CheckInstall
[01:26] <MetaMorfoziS> no you not need anything other
[01:26] <exceswater> sorry... not drivers... codecs
[01:26] <MetaMorfoziS> is you executed the install?
[01:26] <RawSewage> Checkinstall is better than plain ./install
[01:26] <MetaMorfoziS> but it's xnview's own isntaller
[01:26] <RawSewage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[01:26] <MetaMorfoziS> i dunno what is checkisntall:)
[01:27] <MetaMorfoziS> i never used xnview's instalelr
[01:27] <exceswater> nope
[01:27] <bernier> exceswater: what do you exactly want..? read MP3'S?
[01:27] <exceswater> yes
[01:27] <exceswater> i have amarok
[01:27] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm simply createda  symlink to the binary
[01:27] <bernier> you need the xine engine
[01:27] <bernier> first lets see if you have it
[01:27] <exceswater> but it seems i don't have codecs for mp3
[01:27] <exceswater> ok
[01:28] <exceswater> 10x for help
[01:28] <bernier> open amarok
[01:28] <exceswater> i am really a noob
[01:28] <exceswater> k
[01:28] <RawSewage> ok, I think it's installed
[01:28] <RawSewage> !mp3
[01:28] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:28] <exceswater> ok
[01:28] <MetaMorfoziS> hey RawSewage checkinstall is for other method...
[01:28] <exceswater> amarok is opened
[01:28] <MetaMorfoziS> you absolutley not need it at this time
[01:28] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, type xnview
[01:28] <MetaMorfoziS> is it started?:D
[01:28] <RawSewage> no
[01:29] <exceswater> yes amarok has  started
[01:29] <MetaMorfoziS> hm go to <whereyoudownloaded>/xnview/bin/
[01:29] <MetaMorfoziS> and type ./xnview
[01:29] <MetaMorfoziS> is it started?:D
[01:29] <bernier> exceswater do you have adept or synaptic?
[01:30] <exceswater> adept
[01:30] <bernier> ok open it
[01:30] <bernier> and look for libxine-extracodecs
[01:30] <exceswater> it's opened
[01:30] <RawSewage> it didnt work
[01:30] <exceswater> ok
[01:30] <exceswater> i look now
[01:30] <MetaMorfoziS> where you extracted xnview?
[01:31] <bernier> libarts1-xine
[01:31] <bernier> that one too
[01:31] <exceswater> ok
[01:31] <RawSewage> I extracted to the desktop
[01:31] <exceswater> libxine main 1
[01:31] <exceswater> is installed
[01:31] <bernier> libxine-extracodecs and libarts1-xine
[01:31] <MetaMorfoziS> i said extract to /opt but if you have only one user that need xnview it's not important
[01:32] <MetaMorfoziS> so go ~/Desktop/xnview/bin
[01:32] <exceswater> libarts1-xine i found it
[01:32] <MetaMorfoziS> have you 3 binaries?
[01:32] <RawSewage> I dont want to leave it on the desktop
[01:32] <MetaMorfoziS> in this folder?
[01:32] <bernier> and libxine-extracodecs?
[01:32] <RawSewage> should I move it to opt
[01:33] <exceswater> i cannot find libxine-extracodecs
[01:33] <RawSewage> !mp3
[01:33] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:33] <bernier> Yeah you probably have to enable the multiverse which will be hard if you're noob=/
[01:33] <RawSewage> Im really confused
[01:34] <defrysk> ln -s path/to/executable /usr/bin/ I would say
[01:34] <RawSewage> me?
[01:34] <defrysk> yes so it wir just "run"
[01:34] <defrysk> wil
[01:34] <exceswater> i got the idea
[01:34] <RawSewage> I havent installed anything
[01:34] <RawSewage> I just unpacekd this tar gz
[01:34] <RawSewage> onto my desktop
[01:34] <exceswater> but if i change restricted to universe
[01:35] <exceswater> or multiverse
[01:35] <defrysk> ow
[01:35] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[01:35] <exceswater> i can damage something ?
[01:35] <Hobbsee> !repos
[01:35] <defrysk> mv it to /opt
[01:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:35] <bernier> exceswater not really
[01:35] <MetaMorfoziS> RawSewage: have you xnview/bin folder? and in this 3 binaries?
[01:35] <exceswater> how can i show you a printscreen
[01:35] <bernier> send it
[01:35] <exceswater> and tell me where and what to change
[01:35] <RawSewage> the folder name is  XnView-1.70-x86-unknown-linux2.x-static-fc4
[01:36] <RawSewage> I dont want to move that novel-sized folder name to opt
[01:36] <bernier> exceswater
[01:36] <bernier> in adept
[01:36] <exceswater> yes
[01:36] <exceswater> how can i send it to tou
[01:36] <exceswater> yes
[01:37] <bernier> go in view > add Repositories (or somethiung like that)
[01:37] <exceswater> !regme
[01:37] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, exceswater
[01:37] <exceswater> !register
[01:37] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:37] <MetaMorfoziS> RawSewage: you can rename
[01:37] <MetaMorfoziS> and did you heared about tab?
[01:37] <MetaMorfoziS> go to the terminal cd Desktop
[01:37] <RawSewage> ok, I renamed
[01:37] <MetaMorfoziS> type X
[01:38] <MetaMorfoziS> and press tab
[01:38] <RawSewage> now I do mv ?
[01:38] <MetaMorfoziS> X<tab>
[01:38] <MetaMorfoziS> yes.
[01:38] <RawSewage> I havent entirely figured out how that tab works yet
[01:38] <RawSewage> it tabs to a whole list of items
[01:38] <exceswater> hehe
[01:38] <RawSewage> I dont know how to mv
[01:38] <RawSewage> to mv a folder
[01:39] <MetaMorfoziS> mv is a command
[01:39] <RawSewage> mv xnview opt/// ?
[01:39] <MetaMorfoziS> mv: move cp: copy etc
[01:39] <RawSewage> I dont know how to use it
[01:39] <RawSewage> how do I mv the folder
[01:39] <RawSewage> mv xnview blah
[01:40] <defrysk> RawSewage, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86306&highlight=xnview
[01:40] <MetaMorfoziS> hm, easyer if you do it from gui at this time
[01:40] <exceswater> bernier
[01:40] <exceswater> are u still there
[01:40] <exceswater> ?
[01:40] <RawSewage> ok ty ty
[01:40] <defrysk> RawSewage, should work on dapper too
[01:40] <RawSewage> that post lists step by step
[01:40] <MetaMorfoziS> hoh yes, thx defrysk:)
[01:40] <MetaMorfoziS> yes^^
[01:41] <becster> hmm weird I changed repositories to the au one and it seems to be working now
[01:41] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not good in helping in english:D but i'm soulful
[01:41] <Healot> sound ebony :)
[01:42] <RawSewage> I hope it's like IrfanView
[01:42] <RawSewage> I used that for 7 years
[01:42] <Healot> MetaMorfoziS says so...
[01:43] <Healot> but i don't like the "freeware" licensing scheme...
[01:44] <MetaMorfoziS> if you said a better opensource sw that can do all things that it can, i change immediately
[01:44] <MetaMorfoziS> tell^^ not said
[01:44] <RawSewage> Im using it now
[01:44] <MetaMorfoziS> cool
[01:45] <MetaMorfoziS> .)
[01:45] <MetaMorfoziS> enyoj
[01:45] <MetaMorfoziS> or enjoy?
[01:45] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[01:45] <Healot> MetaMorfoziS:: GIMP
[01:45] <MetaMorfoziS> Healot: bad answer:D it's slow, and not a perfect iamgeviewer:D
[01:45] <Healot> MetaMorfoziS: it's a photoshop
[01:45] <Healot> not image viewer :0
[01:46] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, but we not need photoshop^^
[01:46] <ubuntu> how can install dapper using the good old text installer
[01:46] <MetaMorfoziS> irfanview and xnview are iamge viewers/converters
[01:46] <Healot> we professional graphics artist need
[01:46] <MetaMorfoziS> we are no:)
[01:46] <Healot> hoho
[01:46] <Healot> I like Anglais
[01:46] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not know what is it it's a human?
[01:47] <MetaMorfoziS> not it, he/she:)
[01:47] <Chousuke> I think that if an amateur says he _needs_ photoshop, he's lying
[01:47] <Chousuke> for professionals I can understand the need, but professionals can usually afford to pay the licences :P
[01:48] <exceswater> het guys
[01:48] <MetaMorfoziS> why?:) i'm amateur in photoshop, but i can't use gimp, because i comforted first in ps...
[01:48] <MetaMorfoziS> yes^^
[01:48] <MetaMorfoziS> :))
[01:48] <Chousuke> MetaMorfoziS: but you don't _need_ photoshop, do you? :)
[01:48] <exceswater> it seems like i managed to change things in "manage repositories"
[01:48] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm don't understand fully you, i'm shut up:)
[01:48] <Healot> yeah we have some Photoshop licensed copies :)
[01:48] <exceswater> how i install xine codecs now please
[01:48] <exceswater> lol
[01:48] <exceswater> about licences
[01:48] <exceswater> :D
[01:48] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[01:49] <exceswater> i installed kubuntu 'cause of da stupid police in my country
[01:49] <exceswater> :D
[01:49] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[01:49] <MetaMorfoziS> cryptofs.)
[01:49] <exceswater> my wage is same to windows xp price :D
[01:50] <exceswater> usual people in my country cannot afford even windows
[01:50] <exceswater> after buying computer ... usually by loan
[01:50] <exceswater> :D
[01:50] <Chousuke> I was pretty impressed when I was working at my dad's friend's company. Shelves full of Photoshop boxes. :P
[01:50] <Chousuke> and they had macs with 21" screens.
[01:50] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[01:50] <exceswater> who can tell me how to install codecs for amarok
[01:51] <Healot> !amarok
[01:51] <MetaMorfoziS> RawSewage: is it work?
[01:51] <MetaMorfoziS> is you familiar with xnview?:)
[01:51] <RawSewage> yes
[01:51] <exceswater> !amarok
[01:51] <RawSewage> it's fast.  how do you improve the
[01:51] <exceswater> 10x
[01:51] <RawSewage> resizing
[01:51] <MetaMorfoziS> you can set it to default in kcontrol, or rightclik on a jpg/gif/png and open with ... -> and check alwys option
[01:51] <RawSewage> so it applies a filter after downsizing
[01:51] <MetaMorfoziS> what?
[01:52] <MetaMorfoziS> yes it is an option, to resize oversized images
[01:52] <RawSewage> I mean to improve the resized
[01:52] <RawSewage> it's not using a filter
[01:52] <MetaMorfoziS> and is there one to how, strange or smooth, high q. [more cpu needed] 
[01:52] <MetaMorfoziS> in settings^^
[01:52] <RawSewage> ok
[01:53] <exceswater> and how i can open that text file with source...
[01:53] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm on notebook and i often see my 2-4mbs jpgs from the camera, and it was a half hour if i check the high quality resizing option:D
[01:53] <exceswater> i think i am talking stupid
[01:53] <RawSewage> where is that more cpu needed thing
[01:53] <exceswater> i generated that list
[01:53] <exceswater> how i can save it to my comp ?
[01:54] <MetaMorfoziS> tools -> options -> view
[01:55] <RawSewage> I dont have that option in View
[01:55] <RawSewage> oh there we go
[01:55] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[01:56] <MetaMorfoziS> have you it or not?
[01:56] <RawSewage> I think so
[01:56] <MetaMorfoziS> "High zoom quality (slowest)"
[01:56] <MetaMorfoziS> this is the header of the fieldset
[01:57] <MetaMorfoziS> have you got it?
[01:57] <RawSewage> yes, Im getting a bug
[01:57] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[01:57] <RawSewage> after using the zoom quality
[01:58] <RawSewage> and I go to the next picture, it shows the same picture
[01:58] <RawSewage> do you get that
[01:58] <MetaMorfoziS> lol!
[01:58] <MetaMorfoziS> detto for me
[01:58] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[01:59] <MetaMorfoziS> muhaha:D
[01:59] <MetaMorfoziS> i dunno why^^:D
[01:59] <exceswater> who can help me about installing codecs for amarok please...
[01:59] <RawSewage> !mp3
[01:59] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:00] <RawSewage> exceswater, did you switch to multiverse, and then Update it
[02:00] <MetaMorfoziS> kitchensync:DDDDD
[02:00] <MetaMorfoziS> lol what is this?
[02:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i see it during the upgrade:D
[02:00] <MetaMorfoziS> lol
[02:00] <exceswater> i switched to multiverse
[02:00] <exceswater> i should change all to multiverse ?
[02:01] <exceswater> or universe multiverse : D ?
[02:01] <chavo> exceswater, no you have to add them all
[02:01] <MetaMorfoziS> RawSewage: i think turn off the high quality zoom:D
[02:01] <MetaMorfoziS> and try all other funcs
[02:01] <RawSewage> MetaMorfoziS, I'll look at the forums, see if they know about that bug
[02:01] <exceswater> some1 help me please
[02:01] <MetaMorfoziS> like multiconvert and others.)
[02:01] <exceswater> i am really new to this
[02:01] <MetaMorfoziS> ok
[02:01] <exceswater> and i know how boring i am about this
[02:02] <exceswater> but i dunno how to make amarok play my mp3
[02:02] <exceswater> i changed things there
[02:02] <exceswater> and hit apply
[02:02] <exceswater> now what i do
[02:02] <exceswater>  ?
[02:02] <bernier> you refresh
[02:03] <bernier> and look for libxine-extracodecs
[02:03] <exceswater> welcome back bernier
[02:04] <exceswater> i sent you the first pic
[02:04] <bernier> lol sorry i had something to do
[02:04] <exceswater> about how it was
[02:04] <exceswater> and i make a printscreen now
[02:04] <exceswater> about what i changed
[02:06] <exceswater> i think you should accept the file
[02:08] <Slapshock> hi guys, i was able to install the kopete 0.12 on my dapper.. does this kopete 0.12 support yahoo voice chat? ... i asked on #kopete but seems no one there to answer.
[02:08] <defrysk> Slapshock, only one way to find out then...
[02:08] <Slapshock> ?
[02:09] <defrysk> try it
[02:09] <Slapshock> theres no voice chat option here, only webcam :(
[02:09] <defrysk> too bad
[02:10] <Slapshock> :-(
[02:13] <becster> hmm where do I change the machine name in kubuntu?
[02:14] <defrysk>  /etc/issue you mean ?
[02:14] <Healot> hostname <your hostname>
[02:16] <becster> Domain Name System in settings?
[02:17] <becster> ok that fixed it heh
[02:18] <MetaMorfoziS> tadam:)
[02:18] <MetaMorfoziS> Qt: 3.3.6
[02:18] <MetaMorfoziS> KDE: 3.5.3
[02:18] <MetaMorfoziS> kde-config: 1.0
[02:20] <MetaMorfoziS> for celebration about upgrading, i go out to mcdonalds
[02:20] <MeTaWay> ;)
[02:22] <RawSewage> whats a standard Kubuntu C compiler
[02:22] <Healot> gcc
[02:23] <Healot> like most GNU/Linux distros
[02:23] <RawSewage> ty
[02:23] <RawSewage> i mean
[02:23] <RawSewage> what do I use to make file
[02:24] <RawSewage> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:24] <becster> same here RawSewage
[02:24] <chavo> RawSewage, apt-get install build-essential
[02:24] <RawSewage> ty
[02:24] <Healot> RawSewage: the command "make" with different type of switch
[02:24] <defrysk> sud apt-get install build-essential
[02:24] <defrysk> sudo
[02:25] <becster> gcc 4?
[02:25] <RawSewage> make wont work until I install build-essential
[02:25] <becster> is 3 safer?
[02:25] <Healot> neither
[02:26] <Healot> read the release/changelog at gnu's GCC site for that, wait, it's available if you isntall gcc :)
[02:34] <bernier> !mp3
[02:34] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:35] <becster> hmm whats the kde headers package name?
[02:36] <_rince_> anyone here using kubuntu with a matrox graphics-card on dvi?
[02:36] <becster> oh kdelibs hehe
[02:39] <_rince_> with matrox and dvi not using vesa, to be exact :)
[02:41] <railk> im trying to set up a kubuntu-windows dual boot, when installing windows i left 15GB space unpartitioned. im installing kubuntu now but i'm not able to edit the free space to split it up for swap and root partitions... should i have done that when partitioning with the windows installer?
[02:44] <[miles] > hello all
[02:44] <[miles] > wondered if anyone knows where I can get libdvdcss for kubuntu / ubuntu 6.06 please?
[02:46] <Hobbsee> !libdvdcss
[02:46] <ubotu> libdvdcss is, like, totally, (DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)) for i386. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for PPC and amd64
[02:46] <Hobbsee> [miles] : ^
[02:47] <bernier> configure: error: *** Couldn't find SDL library (version >= 1.2.2).
[02:47] <bernier> what do i exactly need?
[02:47] <[miles] > as useual, many thanks! :-) that
[02:47] <[miles] > is that problem quickly sorted jeje
[02:47] <[miles] > thanks guys
[02:47] <[miles] > bbl
[02:47] <[miles] > !
[02:47] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [miles] 
[02:48] <bernier> !sdl
[02:48] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bernier
[02:48] <exceswater> i am back
[02:48] <exceswater> :d
[02:48] <Hobbsee> bernier: i'd try libsdl1.2-dev, looking at "apt-cache search sdl dev
[02:48] <lunitik> ubotu libdvdcss is also or just add 'deb www.debian-multimedia.org sid main' to your souces.list
[02:48] <exceswater> bernier :D
[02:48] <ubotu> okay, lunitik
[02:48] <exceswater> 10x a lot man
[02:48] <exceswater> now i have sound in amarok
[02:48] <exceswater> :D
[02:48] <bernier> nice ;)
[02:48] <Hobbsee> lunitik: DONT YOU DARE!
[02:48] <exceswater> but it seems like i uninstalled adept :D ?
[02:48] <lunitik> Hobbsee: umm?
[02:48] <bernier> you juste restarted your comp?
[02:48] <exceswater> is that possible
[02:48] <bernier> Hermmm i dont know
[02:48] <bernier> lol
[02:49] <lunitik> !libdvdcss
[02:49] <exceswater> i uninstalled things that had conflict with libxine
[02:49] <bernier> well if you dis you can always reinstall it
[02:49] <exceswater> how
[02:49] <exceswater> hey PEOPLE...
[02:49] <bernier> sudo apt-get install adept
[02:49] <exceswater> how can i install ADEPT baxk
[02:49] <Hobbsee> lunitik: you *will* break other people's systems if you do that.
[02:49] <lunitik> Hobbsee: ummm... no, libdvdcss has very few specific deps
[02:50] <bernier> how can i know the kernel version i am using?
[02:50] <lunitik> Hobbsee: just as an aside... without other packages in that repo... I've never seen libdvdcss actually be functional... ymmv
[02:51] <lunitik> (namely kmplayer)
[02:51] <Hobbsee> lunitik: i've had it working, from following the restricted page on the ubuntu wiki
[02:51] <lunitik> Hobbsee: you've *had* it working? so its not currently functional? hmm
[02:52] <lunitik> Hobbsee: I watched a DVD here last night via d-m.o
[02:52] <Hobbsee> lunitik: i probably still do - but i havent been bug searching in a while.
[02:52] <exceswater> bernier
[02:52] <exceswater> where i type that
[02:52] <bernier> in konsole
[02:52] <bernier> you'd better learn to use it
[02:52] <bernier> cuz it's averything in linux
[02:52] <bernier> lol
[02:53] <Hobbsee> bernier: uname -r
[02:53] <exceswater> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:53] <bernier> well do so
[02:53] <Hobbsee> exceswater: then type that command, in the console, and stick sudo in front of it
[02:53] <bernier> thanks hobbsee
[02:53] <exceswater> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[02:53] <exceswater> :D
[02:53] <Hobbsee> exceswater: hence the sudo :P
[02:54] <bernier> hehe
[02:54] <exceswater> i think i throw out my pc
[02:54] <exceswater> what i do now
[02:54] <exceswater> :D
[02:55] <bernier> well
[02:55] <bernier> have you done sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[02:55] <MetaMorfoziS> re
[02:55] <[miles] > perefect, that worked!
[02:56] <exceswater> yuhu
[02:56] <exceswater> yup
[02:56] <exceswater> something started
[02:56] <bernier> wait until it finishes
[02:56] <exceswater> uh
[02:56] <exceswater> i know now how it's to be a lamer
[02:56] <exceswater> :D
[02:56] <bernier> lol
[02:56] <exceswater> i know a lot about win ... nothing about linux
[02:56] <exceswater> :D
[02:56] <bernier> yeah me too
[02:56] <Hobbsee> !cli
[02:56] <exceswater> i have a  lot of friend who are in win like me now in linux
[02:56] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[02:57] <Hobbsee> all of you check that out then - it's useful
[02:57] <exceswater> i even had a friend calling me at 11:45 asking how to change home page in explorer :D
[02:57] <bernier> exceswater once the other thing is done do "sudo apt-get install adept"
[02:57] <bernier> again
[02:57] <bernier> loll
[02:58] <exceswater> or i give them a game on a dvd
[02:58] <exceswater> with crack and everything
[02:58] <exceswater> they copy the dvd in the pc
[02:58] <exceswater> and after that
[02:58] <exceswater> they install the game
[02:58] <exceswater> and they copy the exe from installed game over the exe from the crack folder :d
[02:59] <exceswater> and they wonder why it's not working :d
[02:59] <bernier> haha
[02:59] <exceswater> imagine that you have a friend who just bought a pc
[02:59] <exceswater> you install everything ... give him music... games,,, movies
[03:00] <exceswater> and after 5 hours of working to make everything to work
[03:00] <exceswater> you get home
[03:00] <exceswater> and he calls you
[03:00] <exceswater> my winamp is not working
[03:00] <exceswater> shoot my self
[03:00] <bernier> lol
[03:00] <exceswater> :D
[03:00] <exceswater> and now i am the lamer
[03:01] <bernier> where are you at now?
[03:01] <lunitik> exceswater: hopefully you didn't just say "here, use this instead", rather you showed them around a little...
[03:01] <exceswater> at the office
[03:01] <exceswater> no...
[03:01] <exceswater> lunitik: i helped them everytime
[03:01] <lunitik> exceswater: besides, winamp works fine via wine  ;)
[03:01] <exceswater> sometime i feel weird
[03:01] <exceswater> hey
[03:01] <exceswater> i was talking about win users
[03:02] <exceswater> where you have to not be blind and have a hand
[03:02] <exceswater> and half a brain
[03:03] <SeanTater> can anyone see this? -> http://eepybird.com/dcm1.html
[03:03] <Hobbsee> lunitik: they're building the toolchain still
[03:03] <SeanTater> It's making an indescribable video on konq for me -- looks like something the borg would do
[03:03] <exceswater> i give a huge beer to all people here for helping me
[03:03] <exceswater> a few questions more...
[03:04] <exceswater> is there a thing like total commander for linux ? ? ?
[03:04] <Hobbsee> exceswater: probably search on google for that
[03:04] <lunitik> !google total commander linux
[03:04] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lunitik
[03:05] <lunitik> !botslap
[03:05] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lunitik
[03:05] <lunitik> stupid bot
[03:05] <Hobbsee> well, google's not that hard to find
[03:05] <edneymatias> morning!
[03:05] <lunitik> Hobbsee: obviously people are too lazy in here to use it, however
[03:05] <exceswater> aha
[03:05] <exceswater> and second question
[03:05] <Hobbsee> true
[03:05] <exceswater> a game... nice 3d... and FREE
[03:06] <SeanTater> exceswater: tried bzflag?
[03:06] <Hobbsee> exceswater: search in adept for that a:P
[03:06] <lunitik> SeanTater: I was gonna say that  :(
[03:06] <SeanTater> exceswater: try a *really* good one, Install flightgear
[03:06] <SeanTater> exceswater: it's a flight sim
[03:07] <SeanTater> exceswater: Even better! install planetpenguin-racer
[03:07] <Hobbsee> ooh yeah!
[03:07] <Hobbsee> SeanTater: flightgear?  nice!  i'll have to grab that
[03:07] <Hobbsee> lunitik: yeah, but a lot of people understand that better than the command line..
[03:08] <SeanTater> Hobbsee: How much memory does your ciomputer have?
[03:08] <lunitik> Hobbsee: as I understand it, its actually more difficult to make a Qt app _not_ obey that... which makes me even mader  :(
[03:08] <Hobbsee> Sysinfo for 'sarah': Linux 2.6.15-23-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Celeron(R)CPU2.40GHz at 2394 MHz (4791 bogomips), , RAM: 512/993MB, 92 proc's, 1.39h up
[03:08] <exceswater> planetpenguin racer is nice ?
[03:08] <Hobbsee> ye
[03:08] <exceswater> SeanTater: they look nice ?
[03:08] <Hobbsee> p
[03:08] <SeanTater> Hobbsee: flight gear takes *GOBS* of memory -- ****GGGGOOOBBBSSSS****
[03:08] <defrysk> Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 | Distro: Debian/GNU testing/unstable | CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2200+ @ 1801 Mhz | Mem usage: 224.2/1010.5 MB (22%) | Swap usage: 18/2965.1 MB (1%) | Disk usage(Maxtor 6L300R0): 133.8/233.9 GB (57%) | Uptime: 9 hrs 19 mins 35 secs
[03:08] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:08] <Hobbsee> SeanTater: so does building things.
[03:09] <exceswater> how is planetpenguin-racer ?
[03:09] <lunitik> defrysk: I'd be embarrassed to post such a small uptime
[03:09] <SeanTater> exceswater: quite pretty -- best of them all IMO
[03:09] <exceswater> hehe
[03:09] <exceswater> :D
[03:09] <Hobbsee> mine's a laptop - that's my excuss
[03:09] <exceswater> imo ?
[03:09] <Hobbsee> *excuse
[03:09] <exceswater> aaaa
[03:09] <Hobbsee> in my opinion
[03:09] <defrysk> lunitik, its not always about uptime ;p
[03:09] <SeanTater> exceswater: IMO = In My Openion
[03:10] <SeanTater> exceswater: ooops -- opinion
[03:10] <exceswater> aham
[03:10] <defrysk> IMHO
[03:10] <exceswater> :D
[03:10] <lunitik> defrysk: my girl disagrees  ;)
[03:10] <exceswater> hehe
[03:10] <exceswater> nice people here
[03:10] <exceswater>  :d
[03:10] <exceswater> i like smart and funny people
[03:10] <defrysk> lunitik, with too mutch uptime things get plugged up ;p
[03:10] <exceswater> and i feel you people here are like that
[03:10] <exceswater> aaa
[03:10] <bernier> lol
[03:11] <exceswater> i registered my nick name
[03:11] <SeanTater> exceswater: sudo apt-get install planetpenguin-racer flightgear bzflag <-- installs all of them
[03:11] <exceswater> but i think i have to log on :D
[03:11] <bernier> maybe eh?
[03:11] <lunitik> exceswater: /msg nickserv identify passwd
[03:12] <bernier> I was com;iling something and here's what i got: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/704269
[03:12] <lunitik> bernier: what were you compiling?
[03:13] <SeanTater> bernier: anything more helpful before that excerpt
[03:13] <mrproper> hi! I am trying to acess the wLAN through my wireless "netgear" pcimca card, but I dont know where to start or how to make it work... does someone know how to make this work?
[03:13] <bernier> visual boy advance for my bro
[03:13] <exceswater> about that sudo install blah blah,,,,
[03:13] <lunitik> bernier: grrr... aptitude install visualboypro
[03:13] <bernier> seantater well i was compiling and the page in the konsole was going on then it stopped at one and my comp started working really hard for a wwhile then i got that mesaage
[03:13] <lunitik> uhh... pretend there is a 'sudo' before that
[03:14] <SeanTater> exceswater: sudo apt-get install -- not sudo install -- BIG difference
[03:14] <exceswater> a dumb blonde quote: seems like this sudo guy is pretty powerfull here :D
[03:14] <exceswater> for you my man ... for you
[03:14] <bernier> lol
[03:14] <bernier> lunitik I was training :P
[03:14] <exceswater> it for me like that: "esti un expert in linux prietene" for you
[03:14] <lunitik> bernier: you failed
[03:14] <exceswater> :D
[03:15] <Hobbsee> lunitik: who's doing that, and what are they compiling?
[03:15] <exceswater> you understand me ?
[03:15] <Hobbsee> urgh, great
[03:15] <lunitik> bernier: at least 'sudo apt-get build-essential visualboyadvance' and try compiling again?
[03:15] <exceswater> no one here from Romania
[03:15] <exceswater>  ? ? ?
[03:15] <SeanTater> Hobbsee: nernier is compiling -- this is make's optput http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/704269
[03:15] <SeanTater> Hobbsee: oops -- that's bernier
[03:15] <lunitik> bernier: ummmm... 'sudo apt-get build-dep visualboyadvance' sorry
[03:16] <SeanTater> exceswater: I;m from east US
[03:16] <Hobbsee> hmm lovely...why?
[03:16] <SeanTater> exceswater: Not romania
[03:16] <lunitik> Hobbsee: who knows... his output isn't even enlightening... just leave him go with the build-dep command though  ;)
[03:16] <Hobbsee> hey, now that's not nice :P
[03:16] <Hobbsee> but true - it is close to useless
[03:17] <exceswater> nice SeanTater
[03:17] <exceswater> don;t you wanna change places ?
[03:17] <exceswater> switch places i mean
[03:17] <exceswater> :D
[03:18] <exceswater> to live here in the land of Dracula
[03:18] <exceswater> :D
[03:18] <SeanTater> exceswater: you want to pay my way there? sure!
[03:18] <exceswater> lol yeap
[03:18] <SeanTater> exceswater: We live in the land out the wright brothers
[03:18] <becster> what is up with kdesu? It seems really borked
[03:19] <becster> doesn'
[03:19] <becster> t
[03:19] <exceswater> how old SeanTater
[03:19] <exceswater> ? ? ?
[03:19] <becster> work half the time
[03:19] <exceswater> and what u work there?
[03:19] <SeanTater> exceswater: my state -- a couple hundred years
[03:19] <lunitik> !doesn't work
[03:19] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[03:20] <Hobbsee> lol!
[03:20] <Hobbsee> i like that!
[03:20] <exceswater> what u mean by: my state - a couple hundred years
[03:21] <SeanTater> becster: sometimes when there are two kdesu's going, there can be problems, if you have any privledged programs going, turn them off, and do "killall -KILL kdesu" with no quotes in a terminal
[03:22] <SeanTater> exceswater: The state I live in is a couple hundred years old -- yours?
[03:22] <bernier> Do I sometimes have to update the kernel?
[03:22] <exceswater> around 2.000 years ol
[03:22] <exceswater> old
[03:22] <lunitik> bernier: you don't have to... no
[03:22] <bernier> ok thanks
[03:22] <exceswater> :D
[03:23] <bernier> but , can I? :P
[03:23] <exceswater> didn't you heard about Dracula :D
[03:23] <lunitik> bernier: the 'ubuntu way' calls for it.... via 'linux-386'
[03:23] <SeanTater> exceswater: No -- I know as little about it as loch ness
[03:23] <exceswater> lol
[03:23] <exceswater> why you guys in US know so little about the rest of the world :d
[03:23] <exceswater> ?"? ?? ?
[03:24] <exceswater> i live in a small country
[03:24] <exceswater> i speak
[03:24] <exceswater> i speak english
[03:24] <lunitik> exceswater: Americans are ignorant by default
[03:24] <SubNet> Hi! Where can i find Information about KDE-icon-theme-development
[03:24] <exceswater> very little french... but i was good at french few years ago
[03:24] <exceswater> lol lunitik
[03:24] <exceswater> it's set from konsole
[03:24] <exceswater> ::::D
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> No one is ignorant by default
[03:25] <Hobbsee> SubNet: as in, oxygen icons?
[03:25] <lunitik> Hobbsee: as in... icons in general
[03:25] <SeanTater> exceswater: so -- what abotu thw wright brothers
[03:25] <exceswater> i know about the world i live in ....
[03:25] <Snake[Sleep] > Your the man now dog!
[03:25] <SubNet> Hobbsee: not for KDE4 - wanna theme KDE3.5 with svg-action-Icons
[03:25] <exceswater> what's about the wright brothers ?
[03:25] <Hobbsee> SubNet: ah okay.  not sure
[03:25] <becster> SeanTater: yeah thanks I figured out how to kill them
[03:25] <SubNet> But it does not work as simple as i expected
[03:26] <SeanTater> exceswater: How much do you know about them?
[03:26] <becster> :) just wondering why my partners gentoo box doesn't have the same problems with kdesu
[03:26] <bernier> wtf i feel like if i was on windows! my comp keeps working for nothingand freezes!
[03:26] <chavo> I just checked out the kde4 branch and the oxygen icons are looking sexy
[03:26] <lunitik> SubNet: #kde or #kde-devel might be more enlightening... make sure you browse developer docs before asking in #kde-devel though
[03:26] <exceswater> lol man
[03:26] <exceswater> they have something to do with flying
[03:26] <exceswater> :d
[03:26] <lunitik> bernier: seems like a personal issue
[03:26] <Snake[Sleep] > Does KDE4 have a GUI yet?
[03:26] <exceswater> i like DIscovery Channel :D
[03:27] <SubNet> lunitik: thx for that hint
[03:27] <chavo> http://2sdw.com/oxygen.png here's the folders
[03:27] <apokryphos> Snake[Sleep] : it looks just like a crummy kde 3
[03:27] <exceswater> they invented the plane ... something like that ?
[03:27] <lunitik> Snake[Sleep] : kdebase and kdelibs compile.... so umm... sure?
[03:27] <Snake[Sleep] > apokryphos: :( ok
[03:27] <h3sp4wn> Snake|Sleep: Someone managed to build kde3.5 against qt4
[03:27] <Snake[Sleep] > lunitik: I ment have they began working on the NEW interface
[03:27] <lunitik> h3sp4wn: no they didn't... they managed to compile base and libs
[03:27] <apokryphos> Snake[Sleep] : not just yet; porting seems to be taking a lot longer than people thought
[03:28] <chavo> Snake[Sleep] , no they are still porting and integrating the new frameworks
[03:28] <Snake[Sleep] > thats fine
[03:28] <h3sp4wn> lunitik: And run it
[03:28] <exceswater> SeanTater: still there ?
[03:28] <SeanTater> exceswater: they were the first people to fly a plane in a traditional - straight wing - bi-plane style. They did it on an island in my state, kill devil hills
[03:28] <SubNet> join #kde
[03:28] <chavo> just the important things
[03:28] <lunitik> Snake[Sleep] : the "new" interface is just kdesktop, kicker and various other bits being reworked...
[03:28] <exceswater> nice
[03:28] <bernier> reboot brb
[03:28] <exceswater> trivia...
[03:28] <Snake[Sleep] > lunitik: well thats all Ill deal with :)
[03:29] <exceswater> what u know about Romania :)
[03:29] <SeanTater> exceswater: so who is dracula -- only hear that name near halloween
[03:29] <exceswater> ???
[03:29] <exceswater> they say it was one of our leaders
[03:29] <Snake[Sleep] > Alright I g2g
[03:29] <exceswater> he used to impale his enemies
[03:29] <exceswater> :D
[03:29] <lunitik> Snake[Sleep] : yes... work has started on Plasma
[03:29] <exceswater> and they made a legend
[03:29] <apokryphos> Snake[Sleep] : and stop talking on here in your sleep again
[03:29] <exceswater> that he was a vampire
[03:29] <exceswater> :D
[03:29] <SeanTater> exceswater: hum -- sounds neat
[03:30] <exceswater> his real name was Vlad Dracul
[03:30] <SeanTater> exceswater: I;m not sure I'd want to meet him --
[03:30] <exceswater> and after that they changed his name to Draculea
[03:30] <exceswater> and finally to Dracula
[03:30] <exceswater> :d
[03:30] <chavo> vlad the impaler
[03:30] <exceswater> yup
[03:30] <exceswater> SeanTater: i wanna talk about something here...
[03:31] <exceswater> but i don't want to offend no1
[03:31] <exceswater> anyone who is american
[03:31] <exceswater> D
[03:31] <SeanTater> exceswater: then -- have you ever compiled a program
[03:31] <exceswater> nope
[03:31] <Hobbsee> !kofftopic
[03:31] <ubotu> somebody said kofftopic was Non Kubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #kubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[03:31] <exceswater> i compile ideas :
[03:31] <SeanTater> exceswater: ever wanted to?
[03:31] <exceswater> a little
[03:32] <exceswater> this world of unix looks nice
[03:32] <exceswater> but a little too hard to get in
[03:32] <exceswater> q: political debates are allowed here ?
[03:32] <SeanTater> exceswater: not likely
[03:32] <SeanTater> exceswater: #ubuntu-politics
[03:32] <exceswater> but... personal opinions
[03:33] <exceswater> lol
[03:33] <exceswater> it would be nice to talk alone there
[03:33] <SeanTater> exceswater: /bin/flame --politics > #ubuntu-politics
[03:33] <exceswater> nobody is there...
[03:34] <exceswater> i just wanted to say sometinhg
[03:34] <SeanTater> exceswater: That's because not many people start flamefests here
[03:34] <exceswater> private me
[03:34] <SeanTater> exceswater: why?
[03:34] <exceswater> and you will advice me about that
[03:34] <Hobbsee> exceswater: no, they arent.
[03:34] <utonto_SonoIo> hi all
[03:35] <utonto_SonoIo> i need an help...
[03:35] <utonto_SonoIo> how can i mount a NTFS partition?
[03:35] <utonto_SonoIo> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/NAME /mnt/ntfs
[03:35] <utonto_SonoIo> is it right?
[03:38] <Nano> moin
[03:39] <Nano> wie heisst die datei die beim userlogin ausgefhrt wird. Damit beim login befehle ausgefhrt werden?
[03:39] <Hobbsee> !de
[03:39] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[03:39] <bernier> !edubuntu
[03:39] <ubotu> I guess edubuntu is the education version of Ubuntu (Ubuntu + educational apps + LTSP). Channel: #edubuntu. Website - http://www.edubuntu.org. Screenshots: http://www.edubuntu.org/Screenshots
[03:42] <exceswater> so....
[03:42] <exceswater> back
[03:42] <GullyFoyle> i finally got my soundcard recognized and working in dapper. no help from anyone here or in the forums though. mebbe 'll post something for other people.
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> bernier: Try building visual boy advance with gcc-3.4 instead of gcc-4 (see if that helps - I understand most of the dapper emulators are pretty out of date)
[03:43] <SeanTater> GullyFoyle: Similar happened to me
[03:43] <SeanTater> GullyFoyle: But it was a very simple fix
[03:43] <SeanTater> GullyFoyle: look in what lspci says, see if anything looks like it might be a soundcard
[03:44] <GullyFoyle> i had to look up the module and do a modprobe
[03:44] <GullyFoyle> works now
[03:44] <SeanTater> GullyFoyle: okay
[03:45] <SeanTater> GullyFoyle: For  me is what that the external amplifier settingn was on -- and when turned off, the sound worked
[03:45] <samuli> easy question: how do I get flash-plugin for konqueror?
[03:45] <utonto_SonoIo> I need an help... how can i mounta Fat32 partition? how can i mount a Ntfs partition? (from konsole i mean)
[03:45] <SeanTater> samuli: is it already installed
[03:45] <GullyFoyle> dapper still won't boot the latest kernels though. it will boot 2.6.9 or .10 but not .16 or whatever
[03:46] <SeanTater> samuli: have you apt-got it yet?
[03:46] <bernier> h3sp4wn how do i do that?
[03:46] <GullyFoyle> it hangs on "mounting root filesysytem"
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> bernier: Install gcc-3.4
[03:46] <SeanTater> samuli: here, this should help you
[03:46] <samuli> SeanTater: I have flash-player
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> bernier: run make clean
[03:46] <SeanTater> ubotu tell samuli about restrictedformats
[03:46] <samuli> and plugin for mozilla, but can't find plugin for konqueror
[03:47] <exceswater> so...
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> bernier: then export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[03:47] <SeanTater> samuli: oops -- sent you the wrong factoid
[03:47] <exceswater> i got to go now
[03:47] <exceswater> ...
[03:47] <exceswater> 10x for help
[03:47] <exceswater> and goodbye people :D
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> bernier: then ./configure && make
[03:47] <SeanTater> exceswater: have a good time
[03:47] <exceswater> you 2 man
[03:47] <bernier> ok thanks
[03:47] <exceswater> we meet again
[03:47] <exceswater> i will be back :D
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> bernier: If it still doesn't work the location of gcc may be hardwired in ./Makefile
[03:47] <samuli> SeanTater: no that was helpful actually.
[03:47] <exceswater> 10x for all
[03:48] <samuli> SeanTater: I think I got it now. Thanks.
[03:48] <SeanTater> samuli: okay -- got to konqureor - settings - configure konqueror - plugins
[03:48] <SeanTater> samuli: oops
[03:48] <SeanTater> samuli: okay
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> bernier: Or are you using autogen.sh (instead of ./configure)
[03:49] <bernier> no i use ./configure
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> bernier: Where are you getting the source from ?
[03:54] <bernier> sourceforge
[03:55] <Hoobly> anyone know much about the "xsetroo: unable to open display" error when starting kde?
[03:56] <bernier> could anyone invite me ti register @ Gmail? :P
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> bernier: ok
[04:00] <h3sp4wn> bernier: To where ?
[04:00] <h3sp4wn> bernier: It needs another e-mail address to send the invite to
[04:00] <bernier> wait
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> bernier: VisualBoyAdvance-1.7.2 builds fine with gcc-3.4 (I can't test whether it works as I don't have any roms for that)
[04:07] <jfro> trying to upgrade to 6.06
[04:07] <jfro> using CD
[04:07] <bernier> ok thanks a lot i'll do it
[04:07] <jfro> apt is being stupid tho and trying /cdrom, is there a way to change that?
[04:08] <defrysk> jfro, comment the cdromline in sources.list
[04:08] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:08] <jfro> yeah but i want ot use CD
[04:08] <jfro> faster...
[04:08] <defrysk> ow
[04:09] <defrysk> my bad
[04:09] <jfro> it's just apt is looking in wrong place
[04:09] <linux_galore> jfro: faster to do a fresh install
[04:09] <jfro> with apt-cdrom i can specify mount point
[04:09] <linux_galore> jfro: updates are very slow even from the cd
[04:09] <jfro> i recently did one tho, can i without destroying havlf my system
[04:10] <linux_galore> jfro: do you have a seperate partition for /home
[04:10] <jfro> heh no
[04:10] <jfro> :-/
[04:10] <linux_galore> jfro: theres your first mistake
[04:10] <jfro> plus i got stuff in /usr/local
[04:10] <jfro> like php, mysql, and ruby
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> bernier: if you do export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 and export CXX=/usr/bin/g++-3.4 (it will build fine - If you have the sdl dev libraries and gcc 3.4 and g++ 3.4)
[04:10] <linux_galore> jfro: yeah but thats all going to be garbage after the update anwyay
[04:11] <jfro> why?
[04:11] <jfro> ruby prob be fine
[04:11] <jfro> mysql, i coudl see php borking
[04:11] <linux_galore> jfro: no binary compatability
[04:11] <jfro> binary format changed?
[04:11] <linux_galore> jfro: just save the markup and flush the rest
[04:11] <linux_galore> jfro: does with every update
[04:12] <jfro> that makes no sense
[04:12] <jfro> unless your refering to somethign different than what i'm thinking of
[04:12] <linux_galore> jfro: well its markup if you can read it in a text editor heh heh
[04:13] <jfro> still doesn't make sens, regarding binary compatibility
[04:13] <jfro> your saying they decided to use something different thanELF? heh
[04:13] <linux_galore> jfro: I keep seperate partitions for /home etc  and then I just flush the system directories on a new install and keep all the other stuff
[04:14] <linux_galore> jfro: no Im saying if you have binaries in there your going to have problems
[04:14] <jfro> yeah if they're linked to stuff that gets upgraded drastically prob
[04:15] <linux_galore> jfro: when I do an install and use a system I always do it in such a way that when I update its very similar to a new install accept i dont format some partitions
[04:16] <jfro> yeah, i should do that
[04:16] <linux_galore> jfro: makes life allot easier
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> You can have stuff installed into your home directory (binaries) and it will work most the time after an upgrade
[04:16] <pgquiles> riddell why isn't there a kdebindings-3.5.3 package for dapper?
[04:17] <linux_galore> h3sp4wn: sometimes you need to have old gcc libs though
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> sometimes (I only do that for some small programs on a machine I don't have root on) and they survived an upgrade from debian woody to debian sarge
[04:19] <jfro> yeah i've never had probs
[04:19] <jfro> i only reinstalled recntly cuz i was on dapper before it was stable
[04:19] <jfro> and it was hosing something i couldn't fix
[04:19] <jfro> with PHP & SOAP
[04:19] <jfro> really weird
[04:21] <Hhhhh> hello, I'm new to ubuntu/kubuntu, I just installed kubuntu draper x86_64 and I want to install nvidia drivers, get DVD, mp3 playback, etc. Where can I look for info?
[04:21] <apokryphos> Hhhhh: /msg ubotu faq
[04:21] <linux_galore> Hhhhh: use an app called easyubuntu
[04:21] <linux_galore> Hhhhh: does all that for you
[04:21] <linux_galore> easyubuntu:
[04:21] <linux_galore> sh: easyubuntu: command not found
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> But does it support x86 64 ?
[04:22] <linux_galore> !easyubuntu
[04:22] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:22] <havoc> Hhhhh: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[04:22] <railk> i do believe kubuntu just crashed while saving modified network settings...
[04:22] <apokryphos> h3sp4wn: yes
[04:22] <Hhhhh> i'll check it out after I read some at wiki.ubuntu.org. Thanks guys
[04:22] <Hhhhh> I'm a SUSE user, considering switching to kubuntu
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> apokryphos: Are you one of the developers of it ?
[04:23] <apokryphos> nope
[04:24] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: you dont count as a dev?
[04:24] <apokryphos> that's right 8)
[04:25] <Hhhhh> what's the difference between synaptic and adept_installer?
[04:26] <apokryphos> Hhhhh: synaptic is the full-blown GUI front-end to APT (like Yast's Installer); adept_installer is meant to be a more user-friendly application that is more program-centric than package-centric
[04:27] <kkathman> hey apokryphos
[04:27] <apokryphos> hi kkathman
[04:27] <kkathman> apokryphos:  im up on 10.1 :)
[04:27] <apokryphos> cool :)
[04:28] <kkathman> :)
[04:33] <railk> i don't seem to have my routing table or whatever its called set up by default... route returns an empty table... how do i set up the route table?
[04:35] <optotron> hi! I am trying to acess the wLAN through my wireless "netgear" pcimca card, but I dont know where to start or how to make it work...
[04:36] <Hoobly> anyone know much about the "xsetroot: unable to open display" error when starting kde?
[04:37] <barros> hi.. I've installed a vanilla kernel yesterday.. but have a doubt: when I install the kernel_headers (generated by make-kpkg) it creates a directory in /usr/src.. but, doesnt it need to place some includes in the /usr/include directory?
[04:38] <spider_> THC!
[04:41] <iqon> is there a way to play swf movies in kaffeine?
[04:41] <iqon> or better yet, a way to convert swf to avi?
[04:44] <linux_galore> iqon: yeah I saw something that does that a while back
[04:45] <iqon> linux_galore: i've been having trouble finding a way to do it
[04:47] <ItaloIvo> hey, i'm getting a problem with my dsl connection it's not working at the startup
[04:47] <ItaloIvo> someone could help me?
[04:47] <linux_galore> iqon: http://www.swftools.org/
[04:48] <klerfayt> what's up with reiserfs? you don't like it or it's not reliable?
[04:48] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: ?? dsl connection is a modem side problem
[04:49] <ItaloIvo> after the startup with the ifconfig command it seems it's connected
[04:49] <ItaloIvo> but i get no response
[04:49] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: is the modem a standard dhcp setup
[04:50] <NthDegree> klerfayt reiserfs and reiser4 are not good for an operating system
[04:50] <ItaloIvo> but if i use sudo poff and after pon dsl-provider it works
[04:50] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: most of the better modern modems just run a dhcp setup so its a none issue
[04:51] <NthDegree> they do however work well for normal home user data
[04:51] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: if there is a connection problem its on the modem side nothing to do with Linux
[04:51] <ItaloIvo> but it worked fine with the kubuntu 5.10
[04:52] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: you havent told me anything about the modem '
[04:52] <ItaloIvo> i get this problem only when i intalled the kubuntu 6.06
[04:52] <ItaloIvo> its a speedstream 5200
[04:52] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: what type of modem is it, is it USB or ethernet ??
[04:52] <ItaloIvo> ethernet
[04:52] <klerfayt> NthDegree: why isn't reiserfs good filesystem? it's faster than ext3
[04:53] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: can you login the modem with a browser
[04:53] <linux_galore> to*
[04:53] <NthDegree> it is not faster than ext3 when mounting a large filesystem
[04:53] <ItaloIvo> yes i did this once but it was a long time ago
[04:53] <NthDegree> and it can't do SELinux prperly
[04:53] <linux_galore> klerfayt: reiserfs isnt always faster, its also very cpu intensive
[04:54] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: try loggin into the modem first
[04:54] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: if you can do that then you know the ethernet setup if ok
[04:54] <linux_galore> is*
[04:55] <linux_galore> klerfayt: xfs is the best balanced fs of the whole lot
[04:55] <TheHighChild> Why doesn't k/ubuntu use it?
[04:56] <linux_galore> klerfayt: google a review of xfx/reiserfs and ext2/3 (think he did jfs too)
[04:56] <NthDegree> jfs is the least cpu intensive and according to benchmarks is totally mediocre
[04:56] <linux_galore> TheHighChild: doesnt by default but you can if you want
[04:56] <linux_galore> NthDegree: its a balance of speed on system resources
[04:56] <NthDegree> yeah :)
[04:57] <MidMark> hi people
[04:57] <linux_galore> xfs hit the sweet spot, not slow and not a cpu hog
[04:57] <NthDegree> but xfs, jfs etc. panic the kernel more or that is what i have found
[04:57] <TheHighChild> Does anyone know of a good compiling howto for 6.06 x86_64
[04:57] <MidMark> why in kubuntu thunderbird and firefox are so slow? Because they have some layer more than ubuntu?
[04:57] <linux_galore> NthDegree: never had a kernel panic with xfs in 3 years on 47 machines
[04:58] <leafw> question: same machine, either dist-upgraded from breezy or from livecd: they behave different. cupsd and hplip doesn't work on the first. Any clues?
[04:58] <NthDegree> linux_galore i got one after install
[04:58] <leafw> how can one reinstall cupsd without deleting the entire kubuntu-desktop ?
[04:58] <ItaloIvo> linux_galore: the dhcp server is already activated
[04:58] <linux_galore> NthDegree: one doth not make a disaster
[04:58] <NthDegree> leafw kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package
[04:58] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: so can you log into the modem I didnt ask if dhcp was active
[04:58] <NthDegree> removing it is safe
[04:59] <leafw> NthDegree: I know that.
[04:59] <NthDegree> just use synaptic to reinstall it
[05:00] <MidMark> why in kubuntu thunderbird and firefox are so slow? Because they have some layer more than ubuntu?
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> Because of all the junk they have compiled into them
[05:00] <Hobbsee> MidMark: effectively, yes
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> (i.e pango for a start - unless you need it)
[05:00] <ItaloIvo> i don't know the password
[05:01] <MidMark> Hobbsee: so there is no way to have more speed under kubuntu?
[05:01] <linux_galore> MidMark: because your using gtk based apps (thunderbird firefox) and gnome is gtk based so already has the libs loaded
[05:01] <leafw> I always get, with hplip:
[05:01] <leafw> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:01] <leafw>  hplip
[05:01] <leafw> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:01] <Hobbsee> MidMark: hmmm...the mozilla binaries tend to be faster
[05:01] <linux_galore> MidMark: you should be using konqueror and kmail
[05:01] <leafw> and there's no way around. What the hell!?
[05:01] <Hobbsee> leafw: not enough info - pastebin the entire message
[05:01] <MidMark> linux_galore: I'm talking also when they are already opened
[05:01] <NthDegree> leafw you have to tell ubuntu that hplip is already installed
[05:02] <MidMark> linux_galore: kmail is not as goog as thunderbird
[05:02] <linux_galore> MidMark: I notice no difference
[05:02] <linux_galore> MidMark: actually its better
[05:02] <leafw> Hobbsee: dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper, then hplip complained, so I removed it, and when reinstalling that is what one gets.
[05:02] <v3ctor> kmail is just as good as thunderbird
[05:02] <linux_galore> MidMark: thunderbird doesnt have a crm suite were kmail does
[05:02] <MidMark> crm?
[05:03] <v3ctor> and kmail can minimize to tray
[05:03] <linux_galore> also kmail integrates with the whole desktop thunderbird doesnt
[05:03] <leafw> Hobbsee : http://pastebin.com/704410
[05:03] <linux_galore> latest kmail is very good
[05:03] <Hobbsee> that's what i tried
[05:03] <TheHighChild> kmail barrels thunderbird any day of the week but it seems to have a lot of issues with migrations and mass deletions. But Thunderbird has little to no options
[05:03] <Hobbsee> had it crash within the first hour or so :P
[05:04] <Resat> trk varm
[05:04] <TheHighChild> as for konqueror, ugh. I can't make that switch.
[05:04] <MidMark> anyway firefox and TB under kubuntu are terribly slow
[05:04] <linux_galore> TheHighChild: the options are there just hidden in a big assed conf file
[05:04] <ItaloIvo> ok
[05:04] <MidMark> I mean window drawing and all the stuff
[05:04] <v3ctor> i use konqueror 90% of the time now
[05:04] <ItaloIvo> linux_galore: i'm logged
[05:04] <railk> kubuntu crash when changing network settings seems to have messed up kubuntu's networking completely :(
[05:04] <MidMark> also repect windows versions
[05:05] <leafw> and cupsd is using 99% of chip resources, always ... and I can't print
[05:05] <linux_galore> MidMark: thats because there bot gtk there not native to kde
[05:05] <linux_galore> both*
[05:05] <TheHighChild> linux_galore: Gotcha, I can't say I feel like going through that. I like how kmail integrates with everything, the only KDE app I can't get down with is the Konq
[05:05] <klerfayt> linux_galore: xfs is designed for large data sources; that's why I use reiserfs on 40BG hardrive
[05:05] <MidMark> linux_galore: in fact I thought about it... this is a pitty
[05:05] <defrysk> MidMark, you arec clueless arent you ?
[05:05] <linux_galore> MidMark: install the ubuntu-desktop I find the gtk apps seems to clean up a bit
[05:06] <MidMark> linux_galore: never I hate gnome
[05:06] <linux_galore> MidMark: you dont use it, its just there
[05:06] <NthDegree> i have 80GB for each OS that I have
[05:06] <Resat> trk varm
[05:06] <h3sp4wn> there is an experimental qt version of firefox has anyone built that ?
[05:06] <NthDegree> all ext3 and never had speed issues
[05:06] <iNiku> linux_galore: umm, how would that help?
[05:06] <linux_galore> MidMark: I usually use it once to setup the user stuff etc then I never use it again
[05:07] <MidMark> linux_galore: the only gnome apps I use are firefox and TB
[05:07] <linux_galore> iNiku: sets up all the gtk parrameters so apps dont keep falling back on defaults that are crap
[05:07] <aseigo> h3sp4wn: there was something like that years ago ... and about 2 years ago a port of gecko to qt was done ... both were killed by pointed non-interest from the mozilla people
[05:07] <linux_galore> MidMark: firefox and tb are not gnome apps they just use gtk
[05:07] <NthDegree> konqueror is gecko-qt really isn't it?
[05:08] <iNiku> linux_galore: you have any idea which parameters, specifically?
[05:08] <MidMark> linux_galore: I know, but they run smoothly in gnome
[05:08] <TheHighChild> Why does gnome exist?
[05:08] <mongey|tagging> can amarok auto tag all my music files?
[05:08] <linux_galore> iNiku: usually the file selector etc
[05:08] <iNiku> hmm
[05:08] <NthDegree> TheHighChild because people wanted something modular, a franken OS
[05:08] <defrysk> mongey|tagging, get easytag
[05:09] <linux_galore> iNiku: swaps over the the gnome stuff then gets lost rebuilds a default and then starts working
[05:09] <MidMark> ok guys, someone can print with canon ip4200? I have downloaded filters from canon but doens't work here
[05:09] <TheHighChild> NthDegree: I like the setup and layout of it, but the shading and coloring and dullness kills me
[05:09] <ItaloIvo> linux_galore: i did it, i'm logged on the modem
[05:10] <linux_galore> hmm looks like Australia won from all the noise Im hearing
[05:10] <v3ctor> i love the flame war that Linus started about kde vs gnome users
[05:10] <iNiku> what flame war is that? :)
[05:10] <kkathman> Linux people are full of flame wars :)
[05:10] <linux_galore> v3ctor: wast of time really
[05:10] <kkathman> hehe
[05:10] <iNiku> or rather, which
[05:10] <TheHighChild> For the record, vi sucks
[05:10] <defrysk> yes they made 3 goals in the ast 8 minutes
[05:10] <kkathman> linux_galore:  yes it is
[05:10] <MidMark> kkathman: yes like here
[05:10] <v3ctor> linux_galore: yes..but was funny
[05:10] <kkathman> MidMark:  yah
[05:11] <kkathman> silly waste of time :)
[05:11] <linux_galore> defrysk: kicking ass
[05:11] <MidMark> kkathman: just talk about ff and tb and all talk about kmail and knoqueror :(
[05:11] <NthDegree> TheHighChild I like GNOME because it handles GTK apps perfectly
[05:11] <NthDegree> and KDE is integrated so I like that
[05:11] <kkathman> wow imagine that
[05:11] <linux_galore> defrysk: game over yet, it must be all the cars are driving around blowing there horns
[05:11] <kkathman> Gnome handling GTK apps perfectly...hmmm surprising :)
[05:11] <kkathman> hehe
[05:11] <TheHighChild> I run firefox on kde and I don't seem to have any trouble. I don't understand the complaints
[05:11] <NthDegree> XFCE is fast and handles GTK apps well too so I have that on my 3rd system
[05:12] <linux_galore> TheHighChild: same here
[05:12] <MidMark> TheHighChild: firefox under kubuntu is terribly slow than window version
[05:12] <linux_galore> TheHighChild: then again i have gnome installed too
[05:12] <MidMark> slow I mean with 20 tabs openend, switch from one to another
[05:12] <linux_galore> MidMark: use konqueror, it renders better I found
[05:12] <MidMark> TheHighChild: TB is slower too than Windows version
[05:12] <leafw> OLE, an apt-get --purge remove cupsys  and then reinstall saved the day!
[05:13] <TheHighChild> I guess I never noticed. I don't do browser timings or anything. I know in older versions they had some memory leaks and that was suggested for the slowness. I dunno, it barrels for me.
[05:13] <MidMark> linux_galore: yes but it has no all the extensions like firefox
[05:13] <Hoobly> how can I get Kubuntu to re-recognize my video card.  I upgraded from Breezy to Dapper on friday and since, I have not been able to get kde up
[05:13] <linux_galore> MidMark: thats true but it does have some plugins
[05:13] <TheHighChild> Hoobly: You probably don't have the kubuntu-desktop package
[05:14] <samuli> Hoobly: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <linux_galore> theres an idea add a plugin api that will work with all the firefox plugins to konqueror
[05:14] <mongey|tagging> is easytag auto ?
[05:14] <MidMark> ok people I'm not interested in kmail and konqueror now... someone that has a canon ip4200?
[05:14] <Hhhhh> how big should a /boot partition be?
[05:14] <TheHighChild> Hoobly: The dist-upgrade removes it for some folks. Switch to a failsafe terminal and try 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[05:14] <NthDegree> Hhhhh, 100MB
[05:14] <NthDegree> and it should be ext2/3 too
[05:14] <linux_galore> MidMark: lol canon are in the official bad books for 1 making crappy software printers, 2 having bugger all drivers
[05:15] <MidMark> linux_galore: I know but epson and hp are not so cheaper as canon
[05:15] <DeadS0ul> holy crap
[05:16] <DeadS0ul> aussie won
[05:16] <MidMark> I mean for maintain the printer not to buy them
[05:16] <v3ctor> linux_galore: you can add thier cameras to that list also
[05:16] <linux_galore> MidMark: theres  reason the conon stuff is cheap, there nothing on the printers its all run by software in your computer, so you bog down your computer to print anything
[05:16] <linux_galore> canon*
[05:16] <MidMark> linux_galore: you have read?
[05:16] <Hhhhh> what is recommended for kubuntu? reiserfs or ext3?
[05:17] <MidMark> linux_galore: maintain a printer NOT BUY
[05:17] <linux_galore> MidMark: no I have repaired them
[05:17] <NthDegree> ext3 for the system, if you want a home partition make it reiserfs
[05:17] <linux_galore> MidMark: theres nothing in them
[05:17] <ItaloIvo> linux_galore: hey man i logged on the modem's page and what i should do now?
[05:17] <linux_galore> MidMark: just an IO interface
[05:17] <MidMark> linux_galore: I mean how many $$ you pay per page printed
[05:17] <MidMark> linux_galore: you are talking about price for the printer (another thing)
[05:17] <v3ctor> Hhhhh: ext3 is more widely supported, so if you have troubles you will find more forums...but reiserfs is more responsive
[05:17] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: ok if you can log into the modem then its not an ethernet issue so your hardware is fine
[05:18] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: you dont have a driver issue so now its a software issue with dhcp or a permissions problem
[05:19] <MidMark> linux_galore: epson if you have a cheaper printer and the printer prints not well than the first years then you have to basket it
[05:19] <MidMark> linux_galore: hp have colors and black that cost a lot of money
[05:19] <linux_galore> MidMark: Im not a fan or epson stuff either there methods are similar to canons
[05:19] <ItaloIvo> linux_galore: i think it's a permission problem, cause when i startup the system the interface is up, but i can't receive response from the server
[05:20] <ItaloIvo> but if i put down de ppp0 and after that put up again it works
[05:20] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: might want to setup a static connection
[05:21] <TheHighChild> Don't forget the miracles of power-cycling ItaloIvo
[05:21] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: if you have dhcp you dont use ppp
[05:21] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: you have setup the connection wrong
[05:21] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: its just a standard lan connection
[05:22] <ItaloIvo> my modem is a bridge not a router
[05:22] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: so it doesnt have dhcp then
[05:23] <ItaloIvo> i can setup it to become a router
[05:23] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: turn dhcp on in the modem
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> ppp uses radius usually not dhcp
[05:23] <linux_galore> ItaloIvo: then just setup a standard lan connection
[05:24] <railk> gah... kubuntu crashed *again*...
[05:24] <leafw> what is the name of the package that contains the postscript driver ?
[05:24] <h3sp4wn> If he has a connection which requires pppoverethernet then you can't just do that
[05:24] <linux_galore> leafw: there is none postscript is proprietry
[05:24] <linux_galore> leafw: we use ghostscript
[05:26] <linux_galore> h3sp4wn: depends how crap the modem is, new modern modems just emulate a standard lan connection so people can take there laptops to work plug it in and it works and take it home and it works not stuffing around
[05:26] <ItaloIvo> but i can't logon my server as router
[05:27] <linux_galore> h3sp4wn: as soon as someone mentions ppp I usually suspect they baught or got given a really crappy modem
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> linux_galore: If the connection type is ppp over ethernet (or ppp over atm) then either the modem or the router has to run ppp (You may as well just have a router that can do ppp - or a modem that can run some type of open firmware) I would much rather have my linux machine running ppp than that vxworks junk
[05:29] <leafw> linux_galore : I am still impressed at how difficult it is to setup something as trivial as a printer.
[05:31] <leafw> "Unable to create the Foomatic driver" Whatever that means.
[05:31] <linux_galore> leafw: none issue for me, I buy printers that are recognized by default because the makers have good open drivers support
[05:31] <leafw> linux_galore : unfortunately I have to deal with legacy printers (I didn't buy them)
[05:31] <ItaloIvo> i wonder why the interface upped during the startup doesn't work
[05:31] <linux_galore> leafw: when i install Linux with my kyocera/HP printers I didnt have to do a thing "they just worked"
[05:32] <linux_galore> leafw: you cant blame Linux for a problem thats a manufacturer problem
[05:32] <leafw> linux_galore : I have an HP Color Laserjet 3600n and demands the foomatic driver, which is installed, but the wizard thinks it isn't.
[05:32] <h3sp4wn> Italolvo: Probably what ever you are using for the modem has not been initialised yet
[05:32] <leafw> linux_galore : I blaming kubuntu, not linux.
[05:33] <linux_galore> leafw: just manually download the HP driver from HP's home page then install it from the cups manager
[05:34] <linux_galore> leafw: because its listed doesnt mean its installed
[05:34] <leafw> linux_galore : it's listed in apt-cache and adept.
[05:34] <linux_galore> HP make drivers for cups
[05:34] <milena> hello everybody
[05:35] <linux_galore> leafw: just install the driver from HP then get back to me
[05:35] <linux_galore> leafw: take 3 min to do
[05:35] <milena> Does anyone know a way to integrate .pst-data from Outlook Express 6 into Thunderbird?
[05:35] <linux_galore> its a small file
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> Italolvo: The easiest way would be to run ifup from /etc/rcS.d/S99/rc.local (which could be a symlink to /etc/rc.local) or just a script which runs ifup ppp0
[05:36] <MidMark> milena: pst file is an outlook and not outlook express file
[05:36] <MidMark> milena: and no you cannot handle it without windows
[05:36] <MidMark> this is a very old feature missing from TB
[05:36] <milena> MidMark: Ok, but is there any chance of integrating it
[05:37] <MidMark> milena: integrate means for you what?
[05:37] <milena> MidMark: to be able to read my mails again
[05:38] <MidMark> milena: the only thing you can do with TB is to have a windows copy with office and thunderbird and then convert all mails in tb then copy archive to linux
[05:39] <milena> MidMark: Really, I don't have Windows on my machine anymore, but I guess a few friends do
[05:39] <MidMark> milena: I don't knwo if you can convert pst file from kmail and then from kmail to TB
[05:39] <linux_galore> milena: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/libpst/
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> try readpst
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> (its actually in ubuntu)
[05:40] <milena> MidMark: I've already tried readpst, it doesn't work because the pst-file is from Outlook 2003
[05:41] <MidMark> milena: I know but h3sp4wn wrote about that
[05:41] <MidMark> :)
[05:41] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> man i h8 gnome,
[05:41] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> its possible to install kde onto ubuntu right ?
[05:41] <gobbe> yes
[05:41] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> just installed ubuntu for first time
[05:41] <gobbe> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> ty gobbe
[05:41] <gobbe> or just kde-package
[05:42] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> hmm ok
[05:42] <MidMark> milena: the only things to do is to have a windows+outlook2003+thunderbird copy, in fact mails from outlook shit stuff should be converted before and not after ;)
[05:42] <gobbe> kde-core i mean
[05:42] <linux_galore> Ubuntu_6_0_6: yes just type   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:42] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> just did
[05:43] <linux_galore> Ubuntu_6_0_6: then you just log out and in the login screen select kde
[05:43] <milena> MidMark: Well thanks for the advice. H3SP4WN: Can you help me?
[05:43] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> yup :)
[05:43] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> if it installs
[05:43] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> still says connecting
[05:44] <linux_galore> Ubuntu_6_0_6: no reason why it shouldnt Ubuntu and Kubuntu are exactly the same accept the desktop
[05:44] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> milena: I don't know anything about the pst format but I thought office 2003 had started using xml for everything
[05:45] <linux_galore> Ubuntu_6_0_6: did you run apt-get update  first
[05:45] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> retrying
[05:45] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> linux_galore: no
[05:45] <MidMark> milena: I'm quite sure you have no alternatives
[05:46] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> running now
[05:46] <becster> hey guys what package do I have to install to get all the right click extract to here etc in konqi?
[05:46] <milena> h3sp4wn: I don't exactly know whether it is really a 2003 pst-file, but the readpst error message does
[05:46] <linux_galore> Ubuntu_6_0_6:  so how does apt-get know whats on the servers ?? some form of magic ?? no it finds out when you run the update commend and it updates it local package listing to match whats on the remote servers
[05:46] <xst> After upgrading to dapper, firefox freezes extremely often. Anyone else experiencing this?
[05:47] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> linux_galore: ive never used apt-get
[05:47] <linux_galore> xst: nope
[05:47] <MidMark> xst: no
[05:47] <milena> Well thanks guys, I'll find one of those Windows-mouse-movers and ask them for help
[05:47] <MidMark> xst: updated to 1.5.0.4?
[05:47] <linux_galore> Ubuntu_6_0_6: well you better learn about it because its how you manage all your software on ubuntu/Kubuntu
[05:47] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> heh
[05:47] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> seems similar to smart
[05:48] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> update failed
[05:48] <linux_galore> Ubuntu_6_0_6:  smart is derived from apt-get
[05:48] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> ok
[05:48] <MidMark> Ubuntu_6_0_6: you don't need for apt-get except for some things, try synoptic for ubuntu or adept for kubuntu
[05:48] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> ok
[05:49] <Ubuntu_6_0_6> well the add/remove thingy is working now
[05:49] <linux_galore> yeah jdub was talking about using "smart" as a package manager because smart works with .deb aswell as rpm
[05:50] <becster> bueller bueller?
[05:50] <linux_galore> anyway Im out
[05:52] <MidMark> why in dapper there is no possibility to have duplication of front/row speakers?
[05:53] <MidMark> I mean amarok doesn't work with rear speakers, tried all stuffs
[05:54] <MidMark> nobody has a surround here?
[06:02] <SeanTater> Only two speakers here
[06:02] <SeanTater> never had any more on a computer
[06:05] <insanekane> is the latest "alternate-install" iso seriously screwed up ?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> You mean 6.06?
[06:06] <insanekane> yes
[06:06] <DaSkreech> man /dev/kubuntu
[06:06] <MidMark> amarok 1.4 is better that 1.3.9? I hear about a lot of problems/bugs
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Not sure I haven't used it yet
[06:07] <insanekane> its wierd
[06:07] <DaSkreech> SeanTater: Shouldn't that be /dev/#kubuntu ?
[06:07] <insanekane> i have 2 machines on which the installer crashes ..
[06:07] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: :D
[06:08] <xst> MidMark: I have the latest dist-upgrade, yes
[06:08] <xst> Need to go
[06:09] <SeanTater> MidMark: Amarok, IMO, has a /very/ fast release schedule and usually the third digit in the version needs to be greater than 3 for it to be stable (1.3.3)
[06:09] <MidMark> SeanTater: understood :)
[06:09] <SeanTater> MidMark: glad to be helpful
[06:10] <MidMark> SeanTater: I really like amarok, but gui should be improved imhop
[06:10] <ru> Can someone please tell me (without bombarding me about standards/RFC's) how to put my signature and reply at the top of the message in Kmail?
[06:11] <SeanTater> MidMark: I don;t mind the GUI, but I only add media, make playlists, turn on random and shuffle, the turn it on and leave it on for eons at a time
[06:12] <MidMark> SeanTater: yes but for me gui is important, for you it can works also a command line player :)
[06:13] <defrysk> juk is a nice player
[06:13] <SeanTater> MidMark: no -- a CLI player won;t do for me, a couple people I have switched to kubuntu also need amarok, and do the same thing, but the fact that there is a GUI makes a BIG difference to them
[06:13] <defrysk> a bit less bloat
[06:13] <ru> Is it possible to put my response at the top of the quote in Kmail?
[06:14] <SeanTater> ru: no clue, looked in "configure Kmail"?
[06:14] <defrysk> and juk has a built in tagger
[06:14] <SeanTater> defrysk: I'll try it..
[06:15] <ru> SeanTater: Yeah I looked everywhere, apparently its not possible
[06:16] <MidMark> I ask for all of you a thing
[06:16] <MidMark> in your opinion is it alsa stuff or kubuntu stuff add a gui to duplicate front to rear speakers?
[06:16] <SeanTater> ru: sorry -- you could file a wish in bugs.kde.org
[06:16] <defrysk> MidMark, alsa
[06:17] <SeanTater> MidMark: Probably neither
[06:17] <SeanTater> MidMark: Alsa will soon be phased out
[06:17] <MidMark> SeanTater: why?
[06:17] <SeanTater> MidMark: alsa is no longer developed either
[06:17] <defrysk> SeanTater, fased out ?
[06:17] <MidMark> SeanTater: really?
[06:17] <defrysk> no longer developed ?
[06:17] <SeanTater> MidMark: in KDE4
[06:18] <SeanTater> MidMark: hold on -- nevermind
[06:18] <defrysk> als is a component of the kernel
[06:18] <defrysk> alsa
[06:18] <SeanTater> MidMark: I have too many similar names
[06:18] <SeanTater> MidMark: that's arts
[06:18] <SeanTater> MidMark: alsa is staying
[06:18] <defrysk> alsa has nothing to do with kde
[06:18] <defrysk> kde uses alsa
[06:18] <MidMark> SeanTater: ok :)
[06:18] <SeanTater> defrysk: I know -- I got the names mixed up
[06:18] <MidMark> SeanTater: so alsa stuff?
[06:19] <defrysk> MidMark, the soundengines all use alsa
[06:20] <defrysk> at least in the 2.6x kernels that is
[06:20] <MidMark> defrysk: I know, but let's read this report written by me... https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2188
[06:20] <MidMark> they don't care about missing feature don't know why
[06:21] <defrysk> MidMark, missing feature ?
[06:22] <MidMark> defrysk: Imho is not acceptable that kmix alsamix and then kmix doesn't let you to duplicate front to rear speaker and to not modify high and basses
[06:22] <defrysk> MidMark, you'd better do some reading about alsa
[06:22] <defrysk> MidMark, and complain to the manufacturors of your soundcard
[06:23] <MidMark> defrysk: what do you mean?
[06:23] <defrysk> they dont give the drivers for linux
[06:23] <PascalFr> !paste
[06:23] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:23] <defrysk> MidMark, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALSA_%28Linux%29
[06:23] <sdolnack> hey cats--I've got a problem with clicking links from IRC and Gaim.  They always try to load in Konqueror (not my default browser), and always asks me to save the file as a php or html or what have you
[06:24] <defrysk> MidMark, do some reading ;)
[06:24] <MidMark> defrysk: my card under linux supports very well surround, but there is a missing feature in the gui that prevent me to duplicate front from rear
[06:25] <MidMark> defrysk: I know perfectly how alsa works
[06:25] <defrysk> good
[06:25] <NthDegree_> alsamixer MidMark
[06:25] <NthDegree_> run alsamixer in console
[06:25] <NthDegree_> no missing features there
[06:25] <MidMark> NthDegree_: nope same things
[06:26] <NthDegree_> MidMark not a missing feature then
[06:26] <NthDegree_> it isn't in alsa then
[06:26] <MidMark> NthDegree_: tell me how to duplicate front to rear speakers
[06:26] <MidMark> NthDegree_: via gui of course
[06:27] <NthDegree_> MidMark if the feature isn't in alsamixer then it isn't gonna be in Kmixer
[06:27] <MidMark> NthDegree_: ok, but kmix is only a gui for alsamixer or can be something more?
[06:28] <NthDegree_> it's only a gui frontend for alsamixer as far as i know
[06:28] <MidMark> NthDegree_: so I'm right, it is a feature missing for alsa-mixer :)
[06:28] <NthDegree_> MidMark alsamixer is there for volume controls and switching channel modes
[06:28] <MidMark> NthDegree_: alsa mixer cannot let you change high, basses, front replications sound -> unacceptable
[06:29] <MidMark> alsamixer should do more in 2005
[06:29] <MidMark> sorry 2006
[06:29] <NthDegree_> lmfao
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Is it possible to get a Log dump of the last install you did under apt?
[06:29] <sdolnack> any suggestions?
[06:30] <dimsuz> Hi! Could someone answer a few questions about this distro? :) Currently I'm using Gentoo and I want to look at Kubuntu. Just curious :).
[06:30] <sdolnack> dimsuz: absolutely
[06:30] <dimsuz> The question is? Can I update software with Kubuntu to get new version of it?
[06:30] <dimsuz> s/is?/is./ :)
[06:30] <sdolnack> dimsuz: yes
[06:31] <h3sp4wn> dimsuz: You can backport things from debian sid if youi want
[06:31] <sdolnack> dimsuz: Kubuntu checks ofr updates on packages you have installed and will notify you when a new version is in the repositories
[06:31] <DaSkreech> !tell dimsuz about upgrade
[06:31] <dimsuz> sdolnack: and how big the packages are? I'm on dialup, you know :)
[06:31] <DaSkreech> dimsuz: You may want to look into shipit :-)
[06:31] <sdolnack> dimsuz: yes, adept (the packet manager) tells you how big they are, and how much is inswtalled
[06:32] <dimsuz> DaSkreech: I've already filled a form there ;)
[06:32] <dimsuz> And how fast the new version of eg KDE becomes available to upgrade to?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> dimsuz: Generally a day or so
[06:33] <dimsuz> DaSkreech: although I live in Russia, not sure if it gets here successfully :).
[06:33] <dimsuz> DaSkreech: that's great!
[06:33] <SeanTater> defrysk: hey -- using juk
[06:33] <SeanTater> defrysk: thanks -- I really like it
[06:33] <defrysk> SeanTater, cool ;)
[06:33] <DaSkreech> It should :)
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: A day or so after it goes into sid usually not a day after it is released
[06:33] <SeanTater> defrysk: I think I will be using it instead for the most part
[06:34] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: When does it go into sid?
[06:34] <defrysk> SeanTater, its less bloat
[06:34] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Usually a day before
[06:34] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: (well it did last time)
[06:35] <dimsuz> DaSkreech: and maybe by any chance adept can transfer some binary diff (xdelta) between packages? That saves download time. Or no?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> dimsuz: Nope :)
[06:36] <dimsuz> DaSkreech: so to install new kdelibs I have to download 10+Mb everytime? :)
[06:36] <DaSkreech> dimsuz: thats the way itworks with binary unfortunately
[06:36] <sdolnack>  /msg Snake[Sleep] 
[06:36] <sdolnack> ack
[06:36] <DaSkreech> heehee
[06:36] <dimsuz> DaSkreech: ok, understood :).
[06:37] <edneymatias> how do i access the channel factoids?
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> I hope that the apt-get / aptitude of {k}ubuntu get support for just giving diff's for the package list soon
[06:37] <dimsuz> And one (last) question: I buyed Gentoo only once - 3 or 4 years ago, and after that I just update every week or so. Is this possible with Kubuntu? Or it sometimes introduces 'global' changes?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Tell me about it
[06:38] <dimsuz> ...and I need to buy new CD...
[06:38] <DaSkreech> dimsuz: Officially it has a major release every 6 months with some small updates in between those
[06:39] <DaSkreech> the Current one is LTS (Long term support) and is supported for 3 years
[06:39] <DaSkreech> The normal support cycle is 18 months
[06:39] <DaSkreech> They expect to have a LTS edition every 4 releases
[06:40] <dimsuz> DaSkreech: yes, but can I live without getting a new CD every 6 months - just do update with Adept - and that's all? :)
[06:40] <DaSkreech> dimsuz: You can download the ISO for the new release and update from that. You can update directly from the internet and you can request a CD be sent to you
[06:40] <DaSkreech> dimsuz: Yup :) Hope you have a friend with fast net you can bother once every 6 months ;-)
[06:41] <dimsuz> DaSkreech: I hope this too :))). Not the one I know about at the moment ;)
[06:41] <dimsuz> DaSkreech: thanks very much, you've been very helpful! :) Good luck!
[06:41] <edneymatias> is there an URL where i can search for subjects discussed here in channel?
[06:41] <dimsuz> Thanks very much to you all, you've been very helpful! :) Good luck!
[06:42] <DaSkreech> dimsuz: You can request the Offcial CD and you would be a few weeks behind but it would save you many days of downloading
[06:42] <GullyFoyle> hrm, i got my sound working but it doesn't persist between reboots. how do i get it to load the module automatically on boot?
[06:42] <dimsuz> DaSkreech: ok! Thanks again ;)
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> put the modules into /etc/modules is the easiest way
[06:42] <DaSkreech> hi kkathman
[06:44] <GullyFoyle> h3sp4wn: how do i know the name of the module? i mean, the listed modules in /etc/modules is very generic; lp mousedev etc.
[06:44] <GullyFoyle> h3sp4wn: put snd in there?
[06:44] <h3sp4wn> GullyFoyle: whatever you modprobed to manually get it working just put that in there
[06:45] <sdolnack> can gaim be set up to automatically A) ingore login messages from nickserv and memoserv and B) automatically join #kubuntu?
[06:45] <GullyFoyle> h3sp4wn: so if i put snd-ens1371 (it's an old sblive) it should work?
[06:46] <h3sp4wn> GullyFoyle: if to get it working you just typed modprobe snd-ens1371 - then that would get it working
[06:46] <edneymatias> does anyone know where is that url to access channel logs and search for subjects discussed here?
[06:46] <h3sp4wn> GullyFoyle: Hard to say without actually knowing what you did
[06:47] <GullyFoyle> h3sp4wn: "sudo modprobe snd-1371" was what i used
[06:47] <winbond> is there some kind of cleanup command that will remove all broken packages or something like that ?
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> GullyFoyle: put just snd-1371 in there then
[06:48] <GullyFoyle> h3sp4wn: ok i'll try it
[06:48] <DaSkreech> sdolnack: not that I know of
[06:49] <DaSkreech> sdolnack: YOu may want to ask in #gaim
[06:49] <GullyFoyle> oops, snd-ens1371 is what i meant
[06:49] <iBulk> ok let's say i'm doing a command like this
[06:49] <iBulk> gzip -d file.tar.gz | tar -xvf (here)
[06:49] <iBulk> what goes (here) to wait wtf
[06:50] <GullyFoyle> gaim has vastly improved over a couple of years
[06:50] <GullyFoyle> it used to be quite primitive
[06:50] <iBulk> he was asking me a stupid question how to untar the result of a ungunzip
[06:50] <iBulk> lol
[06:51] <sdolnack> DaSkreech: you can; you need to ad it to yer buddy list
[06:53] <Ron_o> is there a quicklauncher in Kubuntu? Like alt-F2 in ubuntu?
[06:53] <aseigo> alt-f2
[06:53] <iBulk> lol
[06:53] <Ron_o> it doesn't work for me.
[06:53] <samuli> works for me.
[06:53] <weedar> are you using a microsoft or other keyboard that "enables/disables" the F-buttons Ron_o?
[06:54] <aseigo> Ron_o: go to the keyboard shortcuts control panel and in the GLobal Shortcuts panel type "run" in the search box
[06:54] <Ron_o> hmmm, well, I guess it's a against me then.
[06:54] <Ron_o> weedar, no.
[06:54] <aseigo> Ron_o: see what it has associated with it
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Ron_o: Can You open a Konqueror window?
[06:54] <samuli> Ron_o: sudo apt-get install katapult. It's sweeet.
[06:54] <DaSkreech> sdolnack: Oh Yeah I meant about the auto-join
[06:55] <DaSkreech> If you can open one press F4 and see what happens
[06:56] <Ron_o> I can't even run a command.
[06:56] <Ron_o> Forget it. I have too many DE's on my system.
[06:56] <Ron_o> and WMs..
[06:56] <Ron_o> it's killing me.
[06:57] <Ron_o> the thing is I really like K3b and I hear it runs best when it's in KDE.
[06:57] <kosh> that sure sounds like a screwy things about your keyboard
[06:58] <Ron_o> I'm just too good at breaking systems. :)
[06:58] <kosh> that means you know far too little then
[06:58] <kosh> basically just enough to break the system
[06:58] <Ron_o> the thing is 6 months ago when I installed Ubuntu, I wanted to try *everything*..
[06:58] <Ron_o> kosh, exactly.
[06:58] <Ron_o> I'm much better now.
[06:59] <Ron_o> at both fixing and *at* breaking the system. :)
[06:59] <kosh> that is just pretty much the phase that people have the most problems
[06:59] <kosh> the real newbies don't know how to break the systems and the experts know how not to break the system
[06:59] <Republica_checa> 2  0
[06:59] <Republica_checa> *0*
[06:59] <Ron_o> exactly.
[07:00] <Ron_o> my biggest problems so far have meen mounting and unmounting.
[07:00] <Ron_o> I'd no idea what I was in'fer.
[07:00] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the parameter for appending, not cleaning ? so i need to append something to test.txt i need: ls >> text.txt
[07:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i can't define me
[07:00] <MetaMorfoziS> so i want append, not overwrite
[07:01] <Ron_o> MetaMorfoziS, you mean edit?
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> no, append:)
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> add
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> not append, add!
[07:02] <MetaMorfoziS> ls >> test.txt
[07:02] <Republica_checa> Latinoamerica!
[07:02] <MetaMorfoziS> is overwrite
[07:02] <Republica_checa> USA is not America.
[07:02] <MetaMorfoziS> i need adding
[07:02] <defrysk> usa just owns america
[07:03] <Republica_checa> Yes, USA own Republica Checa. 8-)
[07:03] <Ron_o> MetaMorfoziS, I still don't get it. You need to add something to text.txt?
[07:03] <MetaMorfoziS> so how can i add?
[07:03] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[07:03] <MetaMorfoziS> with pipe and >>
[07:04] <MetaMorfoziS> from terminal
[07:04] <Ron_o> you have to open it with a text editor.
[07:04] <Desh> Hey, why would Kopete be able to signon to AIM but Gaim is not?
[07:04] <MetaMorfoziS> nono
[07:04] <MetaMorfoziS> from console
[07:04] <Ron_o> sudo <editor of choice> <name of file>
[07:04] <MetaMorfoziS> try: cd ~; ls >> test.txt
[07:04] <MetaMorfoziS> Ron_o: don'T be stupid
[07:04] <Ron_o> other than that I can't help you.
[07:05] <MetaMorfoziS> in test.txt you see you home's listing
[07:05] <Ron_o> sorry.
[07:05] <MetaMorfoziS> i need to add
[07:05] <MetaMorfoziS> not overwrite
[07:05] <MetaMorfoziS> the >> operator overwrites the file
[07:05] <MetaMorfoziS> i need an operator that adds
[07:06] <trappist> MetaMorfoziS: > overwrites.  >> appends.
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> hm
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> i miss checked something:D
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> thx
[07:06] <georgeblunt> !repository
[07:06] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, georgeblunt
[07:07] <SeanTater> ubotu rell georgeblunt about repos
[07:07] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SeanTater
[07:07] <SeanTater> !repos
[07:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[07:08] <SeanTater> ubotu tell georgeblunt about repo
[07:08] <SeanTater> ubotu tell georgeblunt about repos
[07:08] <georgeblunt> ah! ^
[07:08] <SeanTater> ah-ha it worked this time
[07:08] <georgeblunt> tnx :) .. was looking for this easysource thing
[07:08] <AMEGALUSX> can anyone tell me where the source code for my applications is kept??
[07:08] <SeanTater> !easysource
[07:08] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:08] <AMEGALUSX> like the c++ files
[07:09] <georgeblunt> thanks alot
[07:09] <AMEGALUSX> can anyone tell me where the source code for my applications is kept??
[07:10] <winbond> is there some kind of cleanup command that will remove all broken packages or something like that ?
[07:10] <trappist> winbond: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:10] <Ron_o> winbond, synaptic can help you with that.  ...
[07:11] <Ron_o> so can apt-get. :)
[07:11] <winbond> trappist: what does it do?
[07:11] <winbond> Ron_o: what do i do in synaptics?
[07:11] <trappist> winbond: -f is shorthand for --fix-broken
[07:12] <h3sp4wn> aptitude would help with it best (interactive aptitude)
[07:12] <trappist> winbond: see the man page for details
[07:12] <AMEGALUSX> can anyone tell me where the source code for my applications is kept??
[07:12] <winbond> trappist: oh , ty
[07:12] <trappist> AMEGALUSX: try rephrasing (rather than just repeating) your question
[07:18] <kosh> AMEGALUSX: by default the source code for packages is not installed on your computer so they are kept on the archive servers
[07:20] <DaSkreech> Ron_o: Whats up with mounting?
[07:22] <gil> do i have to use VNC on windows xp machine to connect to my kubuntu box remotely
[07:22] <gil> ?
[07:22] <gil> can i not use Remote Desktop in Xp
[07:24] <Quick_silver> !de
[07:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[07:26] <Snake> sdolnack: you rang?
[07:27] <sdolnack> Snake: nope, just used your name to set up my nickname on freenode
[07:27] <sdolnack> Snake: but maybe you can help me with wine :-P
[07:28] <Snake> sdolnack: I doubt it, I hate that POS
[07:29] <sdolnack> lol
[07:29] <sdolnack> !language
[07:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[07:29] <sdolnack> rofl
[07:29] <Snake> POS = Point of sale
[07:29] <Snake> ty very much.
[07:29] <sdolnack> oh yeah
[07:29] <Snake> :D
[07:29] <Snake> "let us sell you our POS!"
[07:29] <Snake> hehe
[07:29] <AMEGALUSX> can anyone tell me where the source code for my applications is kept??
[07:30] <Snake> AMEGALUSX: its not "kept" anywhere, you have to download it sepreatly
[07:30] <sdolnack> AMEGALUSX: which applications?
[07:30] <AMEGALUSX> oh my bad, someone already answered me
[07:30] <AMEGALUSX> sorry
[07:30] <Snake> np! :)
[07:30] <AMEGALUSX> actually....they really didnt
[07:31] <Snake> rofl
[07:31] <Snake> AMEGALUSX: if you want the source to any application, I beleive its "apt-get install -source <application>" but let me check
[07:31] <AMEGALUSX> i thought by default, the source code for the packages i have come with the packages
[07:31] <Snake> No, they are prebuilt binarys
[07:31] <AMEGALUSX> and the linux kernel source comes with the distro
[07:32] <AMEGALUSX> i thought it HAD to
[07:32] <Snake> AMEGALUSX: Nope
[07:32] <kosh> AMEGALUSX: it does not have to it just has to be available
[07:32] <sdolnack> anyone here good w/ Wine?
[07:32] <kosh> AMEGALUSX: trust me after you have downloaded openoffice you don't want to download the sourcecode for it also :)
[07:32] <sdolnack> hah
[07:33] <AMEGALUSX> well, i just want to see the source code for various apps so I can learn
[07:33] <Snake> AMEGALUSX: heres how to do it
[07:33] <Snake> AMEGALUSX: sudo apt-get source <app name>
[07:33] <kosh> you can specifically install them
[07:33] <DaSkreech> AMEGALUSX: Start with simple stuff :-)
[07:34] <kosh> ie not mozilla, kde, gnome, openoffice, kernel etc
[07:34] <Snake> hehe
[07:34] <AMEGALUSX> i was going to look at kate
[07:34] <Snake> kosh: the kernel is fun to look at :)
[07:34] <kosh> AMEGALUSX: what language are you trying to learn
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Oh I was going to say kernel  :(
[07:35] <Snake> AMEGALUSX: sudo apt-get source kate :)
[07:35] <AMEGALUSX> well i am decent at C++ and Java already
[07:35] <kosh> DaSkreech: the kernel is very large and complex, as far as learning c goes it is not a great idea
[07:35] <AMEGALUSX> but i still have alot to learn
[07:35] <AMEGALUSX> and i want to get more familiar with application dev
[07:35] <DaSkreech> kosh: I know but he would have learnt a lot :)
[07:35] <Snake> kosh: its not really large large.. its got tons of lil files :)
[07:35] <DaSkreech> Mostly not to listen to me
[07:35] <kosh> for java apps there are not many in the system, for c++ there are a lot of kde apps
[07:35] <kosh> the kernel is c
[07:35] <AMEGALUSX> lol, yes i am male
[07:36] <DaSkreech> okJust confirming :)
[07:36] <kosh> some programs are perl, some are python, some are ruby, and some are combinations of lots of languages
[07:36] <kosh> so what language are you trying to learn?
[07:36] <AMEGALUSX> ok, it is downloading kate source code
[07:37] <AMEGALUSX> do any of you guys program for linux?
[07:37] <DaSkreech> AMEGALUSX: Want to answer kosh's question?
[07:37] <kosh> I do
[07:37] <kosh> I write python apps for zope app server and have for about 6 years now
[07:38] <AMEGALUSX> i answered it
[07:38] <kosh> AMEGALUSX: you said what languages you know a little of, you did not say what languages you are trying to learn
[07:38] <AMEGALUSX> well, i am just trrying to get better with C/C++
[07:38] <kosh> AMEGALUSX: also please tell me that if you are going to write software professionally that you are also reading lots of technical docs and not just trying to learn from other peoples source code
[07:39] <kosh> C and C++ are very different, if you write one like the other you have not learned enough about them
[07:39] <AMEGALUSX> i dont write one like the other
[07:39] <AMEGALUSX> to be honest i only mainly know C++
[07:39] <AMEGALUSX> but ive written a few simple programs in C
[07:39] <sdolnack> kosh: they're not VERY different... if you know one you won't have a hard tim elearning the other
[07:39] <AMEGALUSX> i am not professional
[07:40] <AMEGALUSX> i am still a student
[07:40] <AMEGALUSX> but I am a computer engineering student
[07:40] <kosh> sdolnack: if you know c you have a vast ammount to be any good at c++
[07:40] <AMEGALUSX> so yes, i do read lots of technical books
[07:40] <DaSkreech> excellent :) Welcome to the pack
[07:40] <kosh> sdolnack: for good c++ you need to understand and know how to correctly use namespaces, templates, stl and many other things
[07:41] <sdolnack> kosh: yes, i know this, but they are quite similar in many aspects
[07:41] <AMEGALUSX> daskreech, are you a programmer?
[07:41] <kosh> I have just had to replace far too many systems that where written by people that knew squat about what they are doing
[07:41] <DaSkreech> I program some
[07:41] <AMEGALUSX> sdolnack is right
[07:41] <kosh> and the next time I have to replace a mysql db based app the price is going to get trippled
[07:41] <sdolnack> I myself am majoring in comp sci to be a programmer.  I took a c++ class in high school, but then CS111 at univ taught java, so i know a little bit of both
[07:41] <kosh> sdolnack: I think viewing them as similar is a huge trap to get into
[07:42] <sdolnack> although the c++ class taught like c for most of it--it was annoying
[07:42] <kosh> c++ can actually be more efficient line for line then java is and easier to read
[07:42] <DaSkreech> They have the same reserved words
[07:42] <AMEGALUSX> kosh, i am a strong believer in reverse engineering when it is legal...so i think it is really good to try to learn from other's source code if avaialble
[07:42] <sdolnack> java seems sloppy
[07:42] <kosh> however most people know squat about c++, they just know some c and a little c++ syntax
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Thats' fine :)
[07:42] <sdolnack> like it doesn't seem as serious of a programming language as c or c++
[07:43] <AMEGALUSX> java is serious, it just isnt as powerful because it sacrifices power for portability
[07:43] <kuba> sdolnack, you really mean that?
[07:43] <kosh> AMEGALUSX: reading others code is fine but reading docs is very very important also, otherwise you end up in the trap that many people fall into where a bad idea is just copied over and over and people don't know it is a bad idea
[07:43] <method|> if you know c++ it will take you like 5 minutes to be decent at C
[07:43] <kosh> personally I prefer python for just about anything
[07:43] <method|> i dont know how it would be going from c to c++
[07:43] <kuba> sdolnack, java is just different
[07:43] <Snake>  python <3
[07:43] <sdolnack> kuba: I don't know.  i'm fairly new to programming, and I've just sort of viewed java as more for
[07:43] <purucho> somy body speak spanish
[07:43] <method|> but for me going from c++ to c was terribly easy
[07:44] <AMEGALUSX> kosh, i understand completely, and trust me...i do read lots of tech docs
[07:44] <purucho> some body speak spanish
[07:44] <method|> c++ to c# was really easy also
[07:44] <sdolnack> hola!
[07:44] <Snake> sdolnack: nice
[07:44] <kosh> purucho: I don't speak spanish
[07:44] <DaSkreech> !tell purucho about es
[07:44] <method|> i would say c# > java also
[07:44] <method|> there's something about java that just doesnt sit right with me
[07:44] <kosh> if you transition languages easily then you did not realy learn the new language
[07:44] <sdolnack> coz java has the garbage collector, which is a big memory hog, no?
[07:44] <sdolnack> but then java can do strings, which is very very nice
[07:44] <AMEGALUSX> yes
[07:44] <method|> im probably biased because im employed as a asp.net c# programmer :D
[07:45] <Snake> asp.net.... thats MS tech isnt it?
[07:45] <AMEGALUSX> it is safer because of that garbage collector though
[07:45] <kosh> just like I have seen some really slow python that people write and they blame python for it but the problem is that they wrote c in python and I see that in all kinds of other languages
[07:45] <kuba> sdolnack, depends on implementation. But I'd prefer a memory hog over a segfault :)
[07:45] <method|> Snake: yes
[07:45] <kosh> it takes 20+ years to actually master c++
[07:45] <Snake> method|: go learn PHP :P
[07:45] <Snake> :)
[07:45] <method|> why? lol
[07:45] <kosh> AMEGALUSX: you can use a garbage collector with c++ and there are many good ones
[07:45] <method|> i know some php
[07:45] <AMEGALUSX> not with C though
[07:45] <sdolnack> to tell you all the truth I prefer brainf*ck over everything else
[07:45] <method|> cant see any advantages over asp.net to
[07:45] <Snake> method|: so that youll have a job when MS goes under :) (im just playin around dude)
[07:45] <method|> tho*
[07:46] <method|> besides the fact that it's M$
[07:46] <method|> lol
[07:46] <sdolnack> Hello World in brainf*ck:  ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-] >++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.
[07:46] <method|> actually the whole reason why i got back into linux was to start getting more into php
[07:46] <method|> after about 6 months i havent gotten around to it yet lol
[07:47] <kosh> http://osteele.com/archives/2004/11/ides that is an interesting read
[07:47] <kosh> I am a language based developer so I have very high standards for what knowing a language is
[07:48] <AMEGALUSX> kosh: what do you develop?
[07:49] <kosh> AMEGALUSX: I write db stuff in zope, all kinds of custom stuff for the last 6 years or so
[07:49] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i start an application from tty?
[07:49] <MetaMorfoziS> to any display 0
[07:50] <wrede> test
[07:50] <kubu22> Any idea why apt-get install xine-extracodecs isn't working in Kubuntu 6.06 LTS AMD64?  (Yes, I've enabled universe and multiverse)
[07:51] <AMEGALUSX> kosh: are you freelance or somethin?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> !offtopic
[07:51] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:51] <DaSkreech> or #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:51] <DaSkreech> :-D
[07:52] <wrede> I have a new dapper kubuntu installation on my Thinkpad P4-M. Installed automatix stuff and 686 Kernel and it had already locked solid several times. Totally unacceptable! Any ideas
[07:52] <kosh> AMEGALUSX: I have my own business
[07:53] <AMEGALUSX> nice
[07:53] <kosh> AMEGALUSX: have gotten a fair number of contracts where the customer found us because they could not find anyone else in the area that could get the job done
[07:53] <AMEGALUSX> kosh: always good to be the only resort
[07:54] <kosh> the projects are interesting but sometimes very nasty
[07:54] <AMEGALUSX> what is an example of a project you might get?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Whats the Cd command to go to the last directory you were in?
[07:55] <morrow> cd -
[07:55] <GazzaK> is there a way to mirror or ghost a kubuntu image from one hard drive to another different sized hard drive? (which is currently sitting in a drawer)
[07:55] <AMEGALUSX> Unpack command 'dpkg-source -x armagetron_0.2.7.0-1ubuntu3.dsc' failed.
[07:55] <AMEGALUSX> dang
[07:55] <kosh> we recently got a sign company which has some nasty ecommerce stuff on it, each line item has a price that varies by quantity and sometimes with respect to another line item
[07:55] <kosh> however they don't vary consistently with resepect to quantity
[07:56] <kosh> so no normal ecommerce system can handle it
[07:56] <DaSkreech> morrow: Thanks
[07:56] <AMEGALUSX> hmm sounds complicated
[07:56] <Ayabara> when I try to erase a cdrw disc in k3b I get "Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)"
[07:56] <DaSkreech> GazzaK: Umm not using dd?
[07:57] <kosh> so the customer will custom define quantity points/prices and the system will scan that table to figure out what the unit price is based on quantity in the cart to figure out the price
[07:57] <GazzaK> DaSkreech, is that a question or an answer?
[07:57] <kosh> little more complex then that but the system is working very well
[07:57] <DaSkreech> GazzaK: Both
[07:57] <AMEGALUSX> kosh: sounds cool
[07:57] <GazzaK> aww
[07:57] <DaSkreech> dd is the simple answer
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Unless you already know dd and wanted something else
[07:58] <GazzaK> erm, what is dd?  an app?
[07:58] <AMEGALUSX> when i DL a package, where does it go?
[07:58] <AMEGALUSX> im gonna unpack this thing manually
[07:58] <GazzaK> sorry I'd never heard of dd before, I thought you meant Dapper Drake! :p
[07:59] <kosh> dd is a way to copy data pretty much
[07:59] <DaSkreech> GazzaK: dd == data duplicator
[08:00] <GazzaK> can it copy it in such a way as to make the other drive bootable, just like the first?
[08:00] <Ron_o> dd copies everything, including unused space.
[08:00] <Ron_o> partimage just copies used space.
[08:00] <DaSkreech> GazzaK: The simple method is dd if=/dev/hda.source of=/dev/hdb.target
[08:00] <DaSkreech> GazzaK: You may want to man dd though
[08:00] <GazzaK> can it copy a 60Gb drive (5gb used) to a 30Gb drive?
[08:01] <Ron_o> you might if you use partimage... but not with dd as far as I know.
[08:01] <kosh> yeah
[08:01] <kosh> however doing it I would not recommend
[08:01] <GazzaK> why not kosh ?
[08:02] <AMEGALUSX> is usr/share where application source code should be located??
[08:02] <GazzaK> reason for this is to basically make a test machine and a live machine on the same box.  if it's gonna be hard, then i'll build again using the 30Gb drive
[08:02] <GazzaK> just thought it was worth asking
[08:03] <MetaMorfoziS> can i see my tty from ssh?
[08:03] <GazzaK> as ghost would do it to a windows installation, and i've used that a lot before
[08:03] <Ron_o> the difference in linux you can do it right in linux live w/o rebooting.
[08:03] <Ron_o> even apps you are using you can copy.
[08:04] <Ron_o> although, the latter may not be recommended.
[08:05] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:05] <DaSkreech> purucho__: Are you ok?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> purucho___: Are you ok?
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> MetaMorfoziS: use finger
[08:06] <AMEGALUSX> can anyone tell me what directory a package ends up in when its downloaded?
[08:06] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[08:06] <MetaMorfoziS> how
[08:06] <DaSkreech> AMEGALUSX: Are you using adept?
[08:06] <GazzaK> i'll try partimage and or dd, thank you folks, you are great :)
[08:06] <DaSkreech> GazzaK: We know we know :)
[08:06] <AMEGALUSX> well i used the console
[08:07] <DaSkreech> AMEGALUSX: Did you apt-get it or wget it?
[08:07] <barros> anyone here succed installing vmware without any-any pathces?
[08:07] <AMEGALUSX> apt
[08:07] <DaSkreech> ok then it should be in your path
[08:07] <Ron_o> "which" command can help a little.
[08:07] <kosh> strangely enough it actually goes in the dir you ran the command in
[08:07] <AMEGALUSX> you mean, home?
[08:07] <DaSkreech> whereis or which should find it
[08:08] <DaSkreech> kosh: huh?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> kosh: For apt?
[08:08] <AMEGALUSX> oh wow, found it
[08:08] <AMEGALUSX> thanks
[08:08] <kosh> DaSkreech: go ahead and try it, the source packages are not integrated into the system, they just go in whatever dir you ran the command in
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Ah Source :) I forgot the gist of the konversation
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> h3sp4wn:
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> eta@macisajt:~$ finger tty2
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> finger: tty2: no such user.
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> what i type wrong?
[08:10] <RadiantFire> tty2 isn't a user
[08:10] <RadiantFire> its a terminal screen
[08:10] <RadiantFire> you can't finger it
[08:10] <h3sp4wn> MetaMorfoziS: Look at the output of finger and the specific options - parse it yourself
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> ok, how can i check my tty2?
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> or finger can't do that?
[08:11] <h3sp4wn> or use who
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to acces a machine's tty from ssh
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> is it possible with finger?
[08:12] <DaSkreech> MetaMorfoziS: Let me see if i can calrify
[08:12] <DaSkreech> clarify :)
[08:12] <DaSkreech> You want to ssh into a machine then change your tty?
[08:12] <rafael> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:13] <obscurite> Anyone know why the printers screen in kcontrol hangs? I'm on breezy and I've never set up a printer before
[08:13] <MetaMorfoziS> no, then change to machine's tty
[08:13] <rafael> fuck you
[08:13] <MetaMorfoziS> machine "a" want to ssh machine "b"
[08:13] <DaSkreech> !language
[08:13] <MetaMorfoziS> and machine "b" have a program running on tty2
[08:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[08:13] <MetaMorfoziS> that machine "a"'s user want to see/cntrol
[08:13] <h3sp4wn> Use screen
[08:14] <rafael> I love windows & Bill Gates, fuck you ubuntu & Kubuntu
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> how?
[08:14] <kosh> umm ok
[08:15] <DaSkreech> hee hee
[08:16] <obscurite> Anyone willing to help my with a breezy printing problem, or is everyone a dapper snob now ;)
[08:17] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[08:17] <obscurite> the printer manager gets stuck on "initializing manager..."
[08:20] <DaSkreech> !ops
[08:20] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:20] <DaSkreech> Ah Knew there was a command for it :)
[08:21] <kkathman> apokryphos:  no such luck
[08:21] <nalioth> DaSkreech: ?
[08:21] <uniq> daskreech: there is !kops too, i think.
[08:21] <DaSkreech> nalioth: Never mind Riddell already kickbanned him
[08:21] <DaSkreech> nalioth: Had a rabble rouser
[08:21] <nalioth> DaSkreech: use !kops please
[08:21] <DaSkreech> nalioth: Didn't know about kops Thanks
[08:22] <pradeepto> Riddell:
[08:22] <obscurite> so my cups error_log says "LoadAllClasses: Unable to open /etc/cups/classes.conf" - could that be what's stalling the print mgr?
[08:22] <pradeepto> Riddell: around?
[08:23] <Riddell> pradeepto: if you're quick
[08:23] <pradeepto> Riddell:
[08:23] <pradeepto> yes
[08:23] <obscurite> It also says "LoadDevices: Backend did not respond within 30 seconds!"
[08:23] <pradeepto> Riddell: what's the equivalent to Suse's xorg-x11-devel-6.9.0-48 ?
[08:23] <pradeepto> on Dapper?
[08:24] <Riddell> xserver-xorg-dev
[08:24] <Riddell> pradeepto: apt-get build-dep kdelibs kdebase   brings in most of what you'll ever need
[08:25] <pradeepto> Riddell: hmmm will it work if I need it for building kdelibs from svn/3.3
[08:25] <pradeepto> Riddell: I ask this because libs and base from 3.3 got built nicely.
[08:26] <Riddell> pradeepto: yes, should do
[08:26] <pradeepto> Riddell: but pim stuff is asking for missing "X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h"
[08:26] <insanekane> hi pradeepto
[08:26] <pradeepto> insanekane: hey there, long time dude
[08:26] <insanekane> Riddell: have you gopt any reports of xserver-xorg crashing on the latest Kubuntu alternate-install iso ?
[08:27] <NthDegree_> Kubuntu-alternate-install is flawed
[08:27] <n73n53> is this the forum i go to for help with kubuntu?
[08:27] <Riddell> insanekane: that's quite a general thing to report
[08:27] <Riddell> NthDegree_: in what way?
[08:27] <NthDegree_> yes n73n53
[08:27] <NthDegree_> crashes on Select and Install Software Riddell
[08:27] <Riddell> pradeepto: check packages.ubuntu.com to find out where that file is
[08:27] <insanekane> Riddell: it happens with intel graphics cards
[08:28] <Riddell> NthDegree_: worked for me and the others who validated it
[08:28] <Riddell> NthDegree_: do you have a bug report?
[08:28] <n73n53> i just put a new drive in and i need help figuring out how to access it, its formated for windows.
[08:28] <insanekane> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/48164
[08:28] <pradeepto> Riddell: installing xserver-xorg-dev didnot help :(
[08:28] <NthDegree_> unfortuantely not Riddell, there's no information I can give really except the standard error it gives (about a setup step failing)
[08:29] <DaSkreech> n73n53: Try System Settings -> Disk and Filesystems
[08:29] <Riddell> NthDegree_: did you validate the burnt CD?
[08:29] <insanekane> Riddell: it just doesnt complete the installation process ... and oh yeah, the with latest kubuntu (if the install doesnt work as mentioned), the partition table gets screwed, and I cant boot any OS
[08:29] <NthDegree_> Riddell, I used k3b and that verified it as 100% binary compatible
[08:29] <DrBair> anyone sucessful in getting an intel 945 board to suspend to RAM? Mine resumes with the hard drive readonly
[08:30] <insanekane> pradeepto: yes, been away for a while ... was very excited about the latest kubuntu .... until I actually downloaded it, and tried to install it :/
[08:30] <DaSkreech> NthDegree_: I think he means run the CD check when it boots
[08:30] <pradeepto> why what happened now?
[08:30] <insanekane> pradeepto: so many many problems
[08:31] <insanekane> i was so damn embarrassed when I installed it at a senior person's home computer
[08:31] <NthDegree_> oh in that case I can't comment, but i've used that same CD-RW for ubuntu alternate install and it was fine and i've downloaded and tried the kubuntu one on that same CD-RW multiple times
[08:31] <insanekane> it destroyed the partition table ... now he is unable to boot into windows
[08:31] <insanekane> pradeepto: and this was after flight-5 installed properly
[08:32] <insanekane> on that very same machine
[08:32] <pradeepto> insanekane: was that the release version or beta
[08:32] <pradeepto> insanekane: and that partition table can be fixed easily hoping that you didnot mess with it much.
[08:33] <noaXess> if i plugin in my headphones on my laptop, the sound stops.. sound is only available if no headphones are pluged?.. any idea?
[08:33] <pradeepto> insanekane: I have had faced that problem with beta1 and that was bug in ubiquity.
[08:33] <obscurite> My whole printing problem was that lo wasn't up and cups didn't want to work without loopback
[08:33] <obscurite> jeez.
[08:33] <pradeepto> insanekane: a simple "adjustment" to the hdd geometry using a forensic cd can fix the issue.
[08:34] <pradeepto> insanekane: that's from my personal experience.
[08:34] <pradeepto> insanekane: it's a know bug and is mentioned on wiki. Even mvo faced the same thing as me and you.
[08:34] <Ron_o> how long does it take to erase a cd-rw fully in K3b?
[08:34] <pipitas> obscurite: was that CUPS 1.1 or CUPS 1.2?
[08:35] <pradeepto> Riddell: thanks the package name is x11proto-scrnsaver-dev :)
[08:35] <DaSkreech> any one know what scp - p does?
[08:35] <obscurite> pipitas - not sure actually
[08:36] <pradeepto> DaSkreech: secure copy
[08:36] <DaSkreech> pradeepto: uh uh
[08:36] <DaSkreech> the -p?
[08:36] <obscurite> daskreach - man is your friend :)
[08:36] <DaSkreech> I read man
[08:36] <DaSkreech> It's obscure
[08:36] <DaSkreech> It says it keeps modes
[08:36] <pradeepto> yes the mod times and wht not.
[08:36] <obscurite> It keeps permissions and dates
[08:36] <DaSkreech> is that Old Man UNIX talk for permissions?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> AH thats the - option that gets me paid :_)
[08:37] <obscurite> the flag works the same in cp
[08:37] <mitakka> Hi, anybody use superkaramba???
[08:37] <barros> NoUse: well, that is exactly what I did, but with no success. i' musing a custom kernel, compiled from the vanilla source!!
[08:37] <DaSkreech> obscurite: Right it's not called modes I think
[08:37] <barros> NoUse: 2.6.16-20
[08:37] <obscurite> pipitas - it was 1.1
[08:38] <pipitas> obscurite: in CUPS 1.2 local printing does work even without loopback up, as long as there is a "Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock" line in cupsd.conf and a "ServerName /var/run/cups/cups.sock" in /etc/cups/client.conf (or an env var of "CUPS_SERVER=/var/run/cups/cups.sock")
[08:38] <insanekane> pradeepto: its a regression ... flight-6 worked almost beautifully
[08:38] <obscurite> daskreech - as in the chmod "change mode" command which changes permissions among other things
[08:38] <pipitas> obscurite: in 1.1, loopback up is required (as it is required by the older printing systems LPR/LPD or LPRng as well)
[08:38] <obscurite> pipitas - that's good!
[08:39] <DrBair> is it possible to add a hibernate option in the logout screen?
[08:39] <pradeepto> insanekane: it's alright, and I use f5 updating whenever I can.
[08:39] <DaSkreech> mitakka: No I'm waiting till KDE4 :-)
[08:40] <insanekane> pradeepto: yeah ... i installed f5 on this machine, and dist-upgrade
[08:40] <DaSkreech> obscurite: Thats how I figured it out :-)
[08:40] <pradeepto> insanekane: bugs will be there, and it's not that there are 100 people work on it.
[08:40] <insanekane> pradeepto: true
[08:40] <pradeepto> :)
[08:40] <insanekane> pradeepto: there arent ?
[08:41] <obscurite> woooohooo! test page printing
[08:41] <obscurite> (over tcp/ip printer no less)
[08:42] <insanekane> pradeepto: on the other hand, i installed windows 4 times today ... what a breeze :P
[08:42] <obscurite> Let's see, I have dual monitors working with my laptop, printing... almost no linux gotchas left to copmlain about :/
[08:42] <insanekane> even if it comes with nothing
[08:42] <obscurite> And i'm not even on dapper yet
[08:42] <pradeepto> insanekane: do want me to kick you :P
[08:43] <obscurite> the built in kubuntu networking tools require me to activate a wifi profile and dhclient eth1 every time i boot up
[08:43] <pipitas> obscurite: you must be a very unhappy man, with nothing to complain about...
[08:43] <obscurite> that's my last complaint
[08:43] <pipitas> :-P
[08:44] <insanekane> pradeepto: well you know ... sometimes i just hate all this ... windows is just so goddamn appealing :P
[08:44] <pipitas> obscurite: switch to Dapper, and things will change :-)
[08:44] <obscurite> pipitas - and have NOTHING left to complain about???
[08:44] <pradeepto> insanekane: join #windows #vista or better still #vapour :P
[08:45] <pipitas> obscurite: I leave it to you to find out. But chances are,.... oh, well.
[08:45] <pipitas> :-)
[08:45] <slow-motion> re
[08:46] <obscurite> pipitas - an xorg graphical config tool is the last frontier apparently. i think there's one floating around for suse and other rpm based distros now
[08:46] <Hhhhh> sax2 for SUSE
[08:46] <obscurite> yeah, sax2
[08:46] <Hhhhh> that's how it's called, obscurite
[08:46] <noaXess> any idea, where i can enable my headphones?
[08:46] <jpatrick> noaXess: plug them in
[08:47] <noaXess> jpatrick: then won't work..
[08:47] <noaXess> if i plugin in my headphones on my laptop, the sound stops.. sound is only available if no headphones are pluged?.. any idea?
[08:47] <jpatrick> noaXess: correct hole to plug in to?
[08:47] <noaXess> jpatrick: yeah.. hey..
[08:48] <neutrinomass> Anybody with op perms? Some help is needed in #ubuntu ...
[08:48] <iNiku> noaXess: check your mixer, the headphones channel might be muted
[08:49] <noaXess> iNiku: yeah, have checked.. but there is no headphone channel :((
[08:49] <noaXess> thats my problem..
[08:49] <obscurite> neutrinomass - ask nalioth he seems like a nice op
[08:50] <neutrinomass> obscurite: They're currently all away, I did an !ops and no one has responded :(
[08:50] <neutrinomass> obscurite: Somebody else did another one... (ubotu didn't like my second !ops )
[08:50] <_hibbert> hi all
[08:50] <neutrinomass> Ok, Seveas handled it, thanks
[08:51] <_hibbert> anyone got printer knowhow?
[08:51] <obscurite> _hibbert - I just got my printer working finally
[08:51] <iNiku> noaXess: hmm, no idea then...
[08:52] <_hibbert> did it stop working when you upgraded?
[08:52] <obscurite> _hibbert - i had a weird problem with cupsd where my loopback nic was off which broke cupsd. i'm still on breezy
[08:53] <obscurite> _hibbert - what happened? upgraded to dapper and it stopped working?
[08:53] <obscurite> well, my problem wasn't weird as pipitas pointed out. cups 1.1 needs lo to be up.
[08:53] <_hibbert> ah - my printer was (z32 lexmark btw) was working ok on breezy but now I have dapper and its dead
[08:54] <obscurite> _hibbert - see anything in /var/log/cups/error_log?
[08:54] <Sc[_] tt> good afternoon all
[08:55] <_hibbert> CUPS-Set-Default: Unauthorized - that doesnt look too good
[08:55] <_hibbert> could it be permissions?
[08:55] <_hibbert> also - CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
[08:56] <_hibbert> I used to have to type this on breezy to get it to work: sudo chmod 777 /dev/usb/lp0
[08:57] <Sc[_] tt> been trying to install for 3 days, i can't seem to find clear instructions on using the boot options, if i want to use the netcfg/disable_dhcp=true option.. i have the alternate cd... do i have to type the word INSTALL before all the options that are there, then the netcfg/...stuff... or do i put that after the stuff that's there, or do i take the other stuff out.. i can't seem to get it right
[08:57] <_hibbert> now i only have /dev/usblp0
[08:57] <obscurite> _hibbert - yeah could be permissions
[08:57] <obscurite> pipitas - any ideas why _hibbert is getting those errors?
[08:58] <_hibbert> i've tried to add the printer in admin mode too
[08:59] <Sc[_] tt> i liked it better when the live and install cd's were separate... i've never had this much trouble installing
[08:59] <Heston> just curious, is Kubuntu a livecd ?
[09:00] <_hibbert> Yes Kubuntu is a live cd
[09:00] <noaXess> what about S/PDIF devices?... on my headphone whole is this info..
[09:00] <DaSkreech> If you want it to be
[09:00] <obscurite> I wish there was an IRC channel to talk about gadgets you ordered that haven't arrived yet
[09:00] <DaSkreech> Sc[_] tt: Well the alternate CD is an install Cd
[09:00] <Heston> i think ill just use ubuntu directly and install kde seperately in that case
[09:01] <DaSkreech> obscurite: #vapour
[09:01] <_hibbert> you get livecd and theres an icon on the desktop to install if you want to
[09:01] <obscurite> daskreech - is that some kinda inside joke?
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Yeah I guess
[09:02] <Heston> installing livecd's was never a great idea :/
[09:02] <obscurite> kubuntu is meant to be installed!
[09:02] <Sc[_] tt> DaSkreech: i just can't seem to figure out where to put the netcfg/disable_dhcp=true option, no matter how i try it... do i have to type the word 'install' in the boot options space, or just put my options before or after everything that is already there or what...
[09:02] <_hibbert> well - it worked fine for me :-D
[09:03] <DaSkreech> Sc[_] tt: doesn't it ask you to do that in the install. Why d you want to do it at the outset?
[09:03] <obscurite> daskreech - i dont get it, you want your install not to use dhcp?
[09:03] <Sc[_] tt> if i just install with the defaults, it configures dhcp
[09:03] <DaSkreech> obscurite: Me?
[09:03] <Sc[_] tt> it never asks for other options
[09:03] <Sc[_] tt> that's why i'm trying to put it in the boot options
[09:03] <obscurite> daskreech - i thought you were asking for help with an install
[09:03] <DaSkreech> obscurite: No that's Sc[_] tt
[09:04] <obscurite> daskreech - gotcha
[09:04] <DaSkreech> he wants to disable DHCP
[09:04] <obscurite> scott - doesn't the isntaller ask if you want to manually set up your network?
[09:04] <_hibbert> you can edit /etc/network/interfaces later and turn it off
[09:04] <obscurite> or is that only if it fails to dhcp...
[09:05] <_hibbert> you should see a line that says : iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:05] <_hibbert> change dhcp to static
[09:06] <_hibbert> and you can set your own ip and gateway etc
[09:07] <Sc[_] tt> i've never seen it ask for network options... i'm blind... it's very difficult if not impossible for me to go digging through config files, that's why i'm asking about the boot options...i need 'easy' then once i can actually get it installed then i can play and poke around
[09:07] <Sc[_] tt> ok _hibbert i'll try that, thank you
[09:08] <_hibbert> sooo - about my lexmark z32..... anybody know what my permissions problem could be?
[09:09] <lnxKDE> how I install svn in kubuntu
[09:10] <lnxKDE> sudo apt-get install svn does not work
[09:10] <obscurite> lnxKDE - do an apt-cache search subversion
[09:11] <lnxKDE> nice
[09:11] <lnxKDE> btw : am trieng to install KDE 4.0 from svn
[09:11] <lnxKDE> :)
[09:11] <obscurite> ah cool. good luck...
[09:11] <obscurite> does it run?
[09:12] <insanekane> actually, i dont understand ... flight-7 was a beta or alpha release ?
[09:12] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[09:12] <lnxKDE> well looks like it in KDE-look someone posted a actual screenshoot of his konqueror 4 svn running
[09:12] <insanekane> pradeepto: flight-7 was a beta or alpha release ?
[09:12] <obscurite> insanekane - i think the flights are betas. after the final flight it launched right?
[09:13] <insanekane> wierd
[09:13] <DaSkreech> lnxKDE: Link! :)
[09:13] <insanekane> moving openoffice.org to icu3.4 after flight-7 ... ? isn't that risky ?
[09:13] <lnxKDE> sure give me a sec
[09:13] <obscurite> insanekane - dunno
[09:13] <Bazzi> insanekane: everybody likes adventures
[09:14] <lnxKDE> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40779  <---- actual konqueror 4 svn running
[09:14] <insanekane> Bazzi: :P
[09:15] <DaSkreech> No It says mockup
[09:15] <insanekane> lnxKDE: what are you trying to do ?
[09:16] <DarkAdmiral> any one here, who is using kopete?
[09:16] <lnxKDE> I just want to test it and see what is happening behind the dev process
[09:17] <reon> DarkAdmiral, used it before, why ?
[09:17] <insanekane> lnxKDE: ?
[09:17] <obscurite> darkadmiral - i've tried it out
[09:18] <insanekane> lnxKDE: its a mockup ... means an artists impression of what he would like konqueror 4 to be like
[09:18] <lnxKDE> insanekane : I  want to install KDE 4 svn :)
[09:18] <lnxKDE> insanekane reed brother .... he post the mockup also
[09:18] <DarkAdmiral> is it possible to see buddy icons with icq?
[09:18] <lnxKDE> but there is a difference in both    one is the real svn and the nicer one is the mockup
[09:19] <DaSkreech> Huh?
[09:19] <noaXess> somebody an idea to enable headphones?
[09:19] <noaXess> soudn works ok.. with normal speaker (laptop) but headphones isn't available.. no channel to control.
[09:19] <reon> DarkAdmiral, sorry can't remember
[09:19] <noaXess> !headphones
[09:19] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noaXess
[09:19] <h3sp4wn> noaXess: Make sure its in the right port or use a headphone amp
[09:19] <DarkAdmiral> reon: ok
[09:20] <MyNewbie> is gnome lighter than kde ?
[09:20] <DaSkreech> lnxKDE: #kde is where the KDE4 action will ... kinda be
[09:20] <noaXess> h3sp4wn: it is the right port, trust me... headphone amp?
[09:20] <DaSkreech> We aren't even looking at it for Edgy
[09:20] <DaSkreech> Maybe Fuzzy
[09:20] <noaXess> h3sp4wn: external headphone card?
[09:20] <noaXess> !headphone
[09:20] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noaXess
[09:21] <MyNewbie> i mean i don't know if i choose ubu or kubu
[09:21] <h3sp4wn> noaXess: If its a line level output then you can convert it to a headphone output with a headphone amp
[09:21] <noaXess> MyNewbie: you wnat GNOME or KDE Desktop?
[09:21] <MyNewbie> is kde more heavy than gnome?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> MyNewbie: If you want light try XFCE
[09:21] <MyNewbie> i don't like xubuntu :)
[09:21] <obscurite> XFCE is pretty ugly for a newbie though
[09:21] <Heston> MyNewbie, kde may be heavier but it sure is faster
[09:21] <noaXess> h3sp4wn: there is an info on it S/PDIF..
[09:21] <MyNewbie> yes
[09:21] <MyNewbie> oh
[09:21] <MyNewbie> heavy but faster?
[09:22] <obscurite> KDE and gnome seem about the same to me, but i get more done in kde
[09:22] <MyNewbie> I meant, isn't gnome faster than kde?
[09:22] <lnxKDE> DaSkreech yeah I am in there right now
[09:22] <obscurite> same as in resources
[09:22] <Heston> MyNewbie, gnome execution time is horrible
[09:22] <h3sp4wn> I think kde is faster
[09:22] <h3sp4wn> (think as opposed to having tested it)
[09:22] <MyNewbie> also kde seems to come with a lot of apps... kthis, kthat... does kubuntu come with more apps than ubuntu or not really?
[09:23] <noaXess> !alsa
[09:23] <ubotu> [alsa]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[09:23] <Heston> MyNewbie, you wont be sorry you picked kde unless you like extremely light wm's
[09:23] <DaSkreech> MyNewbie: They both come with what is needed
[09:23] <noaXess> !dmix
[09:23] <ubotu> I guess dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:23] <obscurite> KDE has a suite of amazing apps that work together. kontact for email/calendar/contacts, amarok for mp3/media, konversation and kopete for chat. lots of integration and gadgets :)
[09:24] <obscurite> mynewbie - definitely check out gnome AND kde and give each one at least a week
[09:24] <obscurite> ubuntu makes it so easy to switch between them
[09:24] <MyNewbie> yes, kde seems to have amazing apps bundled :)
[09:24] <MyNewbie> i'll try both live cds
[09:24] <obscurite> mynewbie - in linux everything is bundled ;)
[09:24] <MyNewbie> ahh one more thing
[09:25] <MyNewbie> ubuntu and kubuntu run equally good on powerpc or is one distro more advanced than the other?
[09:25] <obscurite> should be the same
[09:25] <MyNewbie> great :)
[09:25] <georgeblunt> hey there.. i just ran into a little problem.. i wanted to install the flash plugin using adept.. but the installation didn't want to finish.. it was stuck at 90% and just not moving for almost 20mins.. so i killed the adept process.. and now evereytime i want to start adept again, it tells me, that the db is in use by another process and i can't change a thing...
[09:25] <MyNewbie> ah yes, I saw kbluetooth in kubuntu
[09:26] <MyNewbie> is there a list of supported hardware?
[09:26] <georgeblunt> thing is.. i can't find any other adept process besides the adept-notifier
[09:26] <obscurite> mynewbie - everything that linux supports basically
[09:26] <MyNewbie> i have a conceptronic bluetooth adapter
[09:26] <MyNewbie> but I cant find linux drivers for it
[09:26] <DaSkreech> georgeblunt: Check if you have a lock file in /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:27] <georgeblunt> k.. just a sec
[09:27] <MyNewbie> does that mean it wont work or it may work fine without support from conceptronic?
[09:27] <yolanda> h
[09:28] <georgeblunt> jep.. there is a lock file
[09:28] <obscurite> mynewbie - chances are you'll be fine
[09:28] <DaSkreech> georgeblunt: try sudo rm on it
[09:28] <georgeblunt> k
[09:28] <MyNewbie> great :)
[09:29] <MyNewbie> are there any good kde vs. gnome reviews online? i mean quality stuff, not the old flaming
[09:29] <MyNewbie> googled it but only found wars
[09:29] <cypher> i'm having some trouble getting my 3com 3crpag175 working with kubuntu on my hp nc6230
[09:29] <obscurite> mynewbie - how much ram ya got
[09:29] <DaSkreech> MyNewbie: Rally and truly if you are talking about feel then just try them
[09:29] <_hibbert> now i have a different question - I've tried loggin into localhost:631 but it wont accept and username or pwd
[09:29] <cypher> i have the exact same card on my dell d810 and it works great
[09:29] <georgeblunt> DaSkreech: removed it but still the same error
[09:29] <cypher> but can't seem to get it to work on the hp
[09:29] <_hibbert> I even tried root
[09:29] <uniq> mynewbie: moost are wars. But you could try osnews.com they tend to have some good reviews.
[09:29] <DaSkreech> georgeblunt: What's the error say?
[09:30] <MyNewbie> 768
[09:30] <obscurite> _hibbert - you may need some stuff in cupds.conf?
[09:30] <obscurite> mynewbie - more than enough
[09:30] <_hibbert> what like?
[09:30] <obscurite> mynewbie - kde with all the good apps loaded comes under 512mb
[09:30] <MyNewbie> also how many partitions should i create?
[09:30] <MyNewbie> the /, /home and /swap ?
[09:31] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Welcome :)
[09:31] <georgeblunt> "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (....), because another process is using the packaging system database (....)"
[09:31] <EvilIdler> MyNewbie: I recommend a few gigs on / if you make /usr part of it
[09:31] <cypher> i insert the card into the hp and /var/log/messages sees the card inserted, but doesn't load any modules
[09:31] <EvilIdler> Like 6+
[09:31] <nikkiana> Hi DaSkreech :)
[09:31] <obscurite> mynewbie - on desktop installs i just do / and swap. on servers i do /var /home / and swap at least
[09:31] <DaSkreech> ?me hugs nikkiana
[09:31] <cypher> when itry and load the modules manually it still doesn't show ath0 as there
[09:31] <fimblo> where can I report bugs for kubuntu 6?
[09:31] <MyNewbie> what are the benefits of creating /usr and /home in new partitions?
[09:31] <DaSkreech> fimblo: http://launchpad.net
[09:32] <fimblo> thanks daskreech
[09:32] <obscurite> mynewbie - /home and /var are both safeguards against disks filling up or filesystem corruption
[09:32] <obscurite> mynewbie - usr is to segregate installed system sw
[09:32] <EvilIdler> MyNewbie: I recommend / as the /usr partition, and at least 6 gigs (16GB here)
[09:32] <MyNewbie> oh sorry, my english is bad
[09:32] <MyNewbie> the /usr is for what ?
[09:32] <MyNewbie> :)
[09:33] <nico8481> still nobody has the "shift+delete not working" issue ?
[09:33] <_hibbert> what kind of things in cupsd.conf
[09:33] <EvilIdler> You install all packaged programs into /usr mostly
[09:33] <_hibbert> ?
[09:33] <obscurite> usr is to separate installed system software from the rest of the system
[09:33] <MyNewbie> so / is the system, /swap is swap and /home is where i can store my openoffice docs, movies, etc ?
[09:33] <obscurite> I've always found /var is the most useful partition aside from / and /home is only useful in true multiuser systems
[09:34] <MyNewbie> it makes it easier to reinstall ubuntu without loosing my stuff right ?
[09:34] <DrBair> when acpid is put into debug mode, it should show events on the screen correct?
[09:34] <EvilIdler> yeah, /home is where most crap gathers :)
[09:35] <bjoern_kah> hi. does anyone got a dell truemobile 1400 wireless card working in dapper? it worked great with ndiswrapper in breezy.
[09:35] <georgeblunt> DaSkreech: can you think of any process that might be blocking adept?.. something not-so-apperent? ^^
[09:35] <DaSkreech> georgeblunt: Oh btw
[09:35] <DaSkreech> run sudp dpkg --configure -a
[09:35] <drept> hi all, how do I unmount bluetooth dongle?
[09:36] <tlouden> so, I just re-installed [k] ubuntu and would like to restore my kde settings from the old harddrive.  can anybody help me with this?
[09:36] <DrBair> drept: I wouldn't think you'd have to
[09:36] <bjoern_kah> sudo umount /mnt/sda1 ?
[09:36] <obscurite> drept - unmounting is only for drives as far as i know. other devices can be plugged in and removed at will.
[09:36] <DrBair> tlouden: copy the /home/$USER from the old drive to the new one
[09:36] <georgeblunt> DaSkreech: that worked! thanks alot, mate! :D
[09:36] <drept> sda1 not found
[09:37] <DaSkreech> georgeblunt: Sorry should have told you that a long time ago
[09:37] <DrBair> tlouden: or just the /home/$USER/.kde if you only want the kde stuff
[09:37] <tlouden> DrBair: if that doesn't do it (ie. it hasn't)?
[09:37] <georgeblunt> DaSkreech; hehe,.. np ^^
[09:37] <DrBair> tlouden: did you restart kde?
[09:37] <tlouden> DrBair: yes
[09:38] <tlouden> DrBair: I'm most concerned about window settings and panels, neither of which change when I copy the old files
[09:38] <DrBair> tlouden: that should do it, all the kde stuff is in .kde
[09:38] <cypher> anyone want to help figure out why my 3com pcmcia card works on one laptop beautifully but not another?
[09:39] <DrBair> tlouden: unless of course they moved the file locations or formats in which case you are SOL
[09:39] <cypher> both running kubuntu 6.06
[09:39] <_hibbert> does CUPS have a default user and passowrd ?
[09:39] <tlouden> DrBair: good thought, I'll research those possibilities.  thanks
[09:44] <stamen> hi
[09:44] <jpatrick> icheyne: please remove your away message
[09:44] <stamen> who can tell me which multimedia codecs to install for dapper
[09:44] <icheyne> jpatrick: ok
[09:44] <stamen> which are working
[09:44] <icheyne> jpatrick: why do you care?
[09:44] <drept> okay, tnx
[09:45] <icheyne> !away
[09:45] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages.
[09:45] <icheyne> got it
[09:46] <jpatrick> icheyne: and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IrcGuidelines
[09:46] <icheyne> jpatrick: fine
[09:54] <Dani_Filth> Bonjour
[09:55] <Dani_Filth> j'ai dsactiv, "Afficher l'cran d'accueil" dans amarok il le met quand mme ...
[09:55] <DaSkreech> tell Dani_Filth about fr
[09:55] <DaSkreech> !tell Dani_Filth about fr
[09:55] <Dani_Filth> how
[09:55] <Dani_Filth> sorry
[09:55] <DaSkreech> Sorry :)
[09:56] <Dani_Filth> i forgot than i am on a english server :p
[09:56] <Dani_Filth> i said, I deactived the splash of amarok but it appears everthless
[09:56] <uniq> dani_filth: it's a known bug.
[09:57] <cypher> does anyone have any idea why my 3com 3CRPAG175 works great out of the box on my dell d810 with kubuntu 6.06, but not on my hp nc6230 no matter what I try?
[10:02] <stamen> pleaase tell me which codecs to install to play MP3's and movies
[10:03] <mandrake_> gstreamer-plugins-ugly
[10:03] <BlankB> !restricted formats
[10:03] <ubotu> I heard restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or '!codecs'
[10:04] <DaSkreech> !tell stamen about restricted formats
[10:05] <haider_> !xgl
[10:05] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:06] <cypher> ok, i've got a more interesting question
[10:06] <fimblo> hi, my /home is nfs mounted from my file server, and it complains that it wants to create a local folder in my homedir... which it can't, since its a remote share. can anyone help out?
[10:06] <cypher> while i do an lspci on the same card, the working laptop reports a727:0013 for the numeric id
[10:06] <cypher> whereas the laptop that doesn't work reports b727:0013
[10:06] <cypher> why would it report the numeric id wrong?
[10:07] <fimblo> error message at http://blahonga.yanson.org/stuff/sudoadept.txt
[10:07] <cypher> i'm guessing that might be the problem as to why it's not working
[10:07] <BlankB> fimblo: is the remote share writeable?
[10:07] <fimblo> yes it is.
[10:07] <fimblo> I set chmod 777 on it just now, same error
[10:07] <BlankB> fimblo: that error message says that it is not.
[10:07] <fimblo> nod, and therefore the confusion :)
[10:08] <BlankB> can _you_ write to it as the same user?
[10:08] <fimblo> yes, I can.
[10:08] <fimblo> perhaps I can symlink it to a location on the local machine
[10:08] <fimblo> testing
[10:08] <stamen> DaSkreech: 10x
[10:09] <ninHer> hi all
[10:09] <BlankB> fimblo: why dont you just create the folder called ~/.kde/ then?
[10:09] <DaSkreech>  /j #konversation
[10:10] <DaSkreech> /me coughs. Of course I did that for demonstration purposes
[10:10] <DaSkreech> :-)
[10:11] <nico8481> someone knows which package contains svn?
[10:11] <fimblo> blankb: um, Im guessing its an NFS problem, not a regular filesystem problem
[10:11] <nico8481> i mean the "client"
[10:11] <fimblo> nico8481: subversion contains client
[10:11] <nico8481> thx
[10:11] <fimblo> np
[10:11] <BlankB> fimblo: probably. But there should be no reason that you can't do it.
[10:12] <fimblo> blankb: nod.
[10:12] <fimblo> I agree. thing is, I've removed it and recreated it from scratch and it complains....
[10:12] <fimblo> blankb: and other kde apps run ok- I've only got problems with adept...
[10:13] <fimblo> wait a minute. I sudo, perhaps root cant write to it since... hmm
[10:13] <BlankB> fimblo: I don't have any nfs shares running or I would give it a try.
[10:13] <fimblo> blankb: its prolly since the user with id 0 can't write on my bnfs server
[10:13] <fimblo> got it :) got to set squashroot :)
[10:13] <BlankB> see...sometimes just talking about it fixes it. 8)
[10:13] <fimblo> nod blankb, thanks for your time :)
[10:15] <fimblo> another question: I've got a few other machines running gentoo, and I dont have unicode support on them. when I ssh in and start up mutt all my special characters (I
[10:15] <fimblo> whoops
[10:15] <fimblo> all my special lcharacters (I'm swedish) look all mucked up. Anyone got a fix for that?
[10:15] <fimblo> (except for reinstalling my other machines into kubuntu, of course :)
[10:16] <termleech> why would one laptop report my id from lspci for my 3com pcmcia wireless card as a727:0013, and another one report it as b727:0013?
[10:18] <fimblo> blankb: I realized that I could run adept under kde- so I tried kdesu... success! *roar of applause*
[10:18] <BlankB> fimblo: 8-)
[10:19] <nico8481> raah
[10:19] <fimblo> moo
[10:19] <fimblo> :)
[10:20] <fimblo> er.. did I just kill the entire conversation?
[10:20] <georgeblunt> anyone else had a problem with his/her mouse in quake3? it just flies out fo the screen when i start moving it.. to never see the daylight again.. quite strange.. in kde everything works fine...
[10:25] <iNiku> termleech: any differences in lspci -v?
[10:27] <termleech> just the a and b
[10:27] <icheyne> I installed Wine under Automatix, but Wine is broken - even though I tried winecfg. Any ideas how I can fix it?
[10:27] <termleech> and the one that doesn't work tells me that there is memory at <ignored>
[10:28] <termleech> 5 of those
[10:29] <termleech> IRQ's are different
[10:29] <wolfgyone> hi there
[10:29] <wolfgyone> from luxembourg
[10:29] <rob> icheyne, don't use Automatix for a start :)
[10:29] <rob> !automatix
[10:29] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #automatix.
[10:30] <termleech> that's all i see
[10:30] <rob> hmm thats nicer
[10:30] <icheyne> rob thanks , but I tried at #automatix
[10:30] <rob> yeah, automatix is horrible
[10:30] <wolfgyone> hi there
[10:30] <rob> don't use it
[10:30] <wolfgyone> from luxembourg
[10:30] <icheyne> I've had mixed results
[10:30] <wolfgyone> what s up
[10:30] <icheyne> easyubuntu is worse
[10:30] <wolfgyone> I have a question about vsftp
[10:30] <icheyne> wtf isn't Firefox in Kubuntu?
[10:31] <rob> check out http://help.ubuntu.com instead
[10:31] <icheyne> ok
[10:31] <wolfgyone> yeah but it does not work
[10:31] <kkathman> icheyne:  uhmm  it is
[10:31] <DaSkreech> icheyne: It's installable
[10:31] <kkathman> and it works fine
[10:31] <kkathman> tho I prefer Opera, but thats just personal preference :)
[10:31] <icheyne> it works fine and it's installable, but why isn't it in by default?
[10:32] <wolfgyone> I want to configure my vsftp to allow a user to get full right on a directory... But vsftp allows the user to put and get files, but these files .ph are not executed because nbot enough rights :( who can help me ?
[10:32] <icheyne> Surely 90% will install it
[10:32] <icheyne> ?
[10:32] <iNiku> Terminus: hmm, strange
[10:32] <DaSkreech> icheyne: Apparently it was misspelt
[10:32] <kkathman> I dunno, but it was on my install :)
[10:32] <kkathman> hehe
[10:32] <Terminus> eh?
[10:32] <DaSkreech> Firefocks!
[10:32] <iNiku> Terminus: sorry, not you :)
[10:32] <icheyne> DaSkreech: what do you mean?
[10:32] <Terminus> iNiku: oh. =D
[10:32] <leafw> I need some advice on how to inspect what kubuntu is doing when I close the lid, or I switch to a tty with control+alt+F[1-6] , or in any case where I switch away from the X server
[10:32] <leafw> because it takes forever (12-16 seconds)
[10:33] <leafw> there must be a timer waiting incorrectly
[10:33] <wolfgyone> nobody has an ID ?
[10:33] <[miles] > hello again!
[10:34] <DaSkreech> icheyne: If it was firefocks it would have gotten in! :)
[10:34] <[miles] > wonderered if someone could tell me how this line should read to be added as a repo?
[10:34] <[miles] > http://aircrack-ng.le-vert.net/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/
[10:34] <[miles] > cant seem to get it working :-|
[10:34] <wolfgyone> hello please can some one help me ?
[10:35] <wolfgyone> about vsftp configuration
[10:35] <ninHer> wolfgyone: what about ?
[10:35] <[miles] > I tried     deb http://aircrack-ng.le-vert.net/ubuntu/ dapper main
[10:35] <wolfgyone> ninHer : I want to configure my vsftp to allow a user to get full right on a directory...
[10:35] <[miles] > but the package does not show in adept
[10:36] <leafw> [miles] : run an update
[10:36] <CaBlGuY> anyone help me install my printer?
[10:36] <ninHer> or have a look to sources.list
[10:36] <leafw> [miles]  : such as sudo apt-get update
[10:36] <CaBlGuY> driver is not in the list...
[10:36] <ninHer> universe/multiverse
[10:36] <wolfgyone> ninHer : in fact the user has full rights on it I think : he can put and get files, delete directory... But whgen I put .php files they wants not to work because not enough rights... :(
[10:36] <[miles] > erm
[10:36] <[miles] > but from
[10:37] <[miles] > http://aircrack-ng.le-vert.net/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/
[10:37] <[miles] > deb http://aircrack-ng.le-vert.net/ubuntu/ dapper main
[10:37] <ninHer> have you tried to sudoer this user ?
[10:37] <[miles] > would be correct or not?
[10:37] <CaBlGuY> !lexmark
[10:37] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[10:37] <CaBlGuY> !printer
[10:37] <ubotu> hmm... printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[10:37] <wolfgyone> ninHer ???  huh but this user is a newbie
[10:37] <wolfgyone> ninHer : is it not too dangerous to give him too much rights ?
[10:38] <ninHer> uhm, bad conbination
[10:38] <wolfgyone> ninHer : how can I to protect ...
[10:38] <wolfgyone> ninHer yeah I know
[10:39] <[miles] > ah got it
[10:39] <[miles] > thanks...
[10:39] <ninHer> ;-)
[10:39] <[miles] > I dunno if anyone knows if or where there are any madwifi drivers patched for injection..?
[10:40] <[miles] > ok np
[10:40] <[miles] > bbiab, thanks once again
[10:40] <[miles] > wifi hacking to do
[10:40] <[miles] > hehe
[10:41] <leafw> can one use "open" from the console? I keep getting: Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[10:42] <nico8481> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! --> any idea which package i need exactly? apt-cache finds so many qt stuff !
[10:42] <leafw> nico8481 : yo uneed the -dev package, perhaps qt4-dev
[10:42] <nico8481> thx
[10:43] <icheyne> ok I agree
[10:43] <icheyne> automatix is awful
[10:43] <defrysk> nico8481, sudo apt-get build-dep <packageyouwishtocompile>
[10:43] <icheyne> :(
[10:43] <porro22> hi
[10:44] <nico8481> defrysk: what do you mean? i'm not compiling a package i'm compiling source files...
[10:44] <leafw> defrysk : now that is one fine trick I didn't know about! Thanks
[10:44] <defrysk> nico8481, you need the deps , that command gives you them
[10:45] <nico8481> defrysk: yeah but what should you use instead of <packageyouwishtocompile> ? the ./configure script ?
[10:45] <leafw> defrysk : he may be compiling a program that is not in the repositories as a package.
[10:45] <defrysk> no the program you are compileing
[10:45] <wolfgyone> ninHer thanks anyway
[10:45] <nico8481> just the name?
[10:45] <defrysk> leafw, possibly
[10:45] <defrysk> nico8481, what program are you compiling ?
[10:46] <nico8481> konversation (the svn version since dapper's one got a bug that annoys me)
[10:46] <wolfgyone> ok
[10:46] <defrysk> sudo apt-get build dep konversation
[10:46] <nico8481> defrysk: it's not going to actually build anything is it?
[10:46] <defrysk> cant make it any easyer
[10:46] <wolfgyone> is someone knows how to install xboard ?
[10:46] <defrysk> no it installs the packages you need to compile it
[10:46] <leafw> nico8481 : then it's easy, just use the command defrysk told you
[10:46] <wolfgyone> I try to find a package for ubuntu
[10:46] <nico8481> k thx
[10:47] <wolfgyone> but synaptic does not suggest an xboard
[10:47] <wolfgyone> just a gnuchess ... :(
[10:47] <leafw> I need some advice on how to inspect what kubuntu is doing when I close the lid, or I switch to a tty with control+alt+F[1-6] , or in any case where I switch away from the X server
[10:47] <nico8481> argh! 52 packages!
[10:47] <leafw> because it takes forever (12-16 seconds)
[10:47] <lunitik> leafw: that sure is forever
[10:48] <defrysk> nico8481, compile or not to compile ;)
[10:48] <leafw> lunitik : use to take 1 second in breezy only.
[10:48] <lunitik> leafw: same resolution on the console and gui?
[10:48] <leafw> nico8481 : you can deinstall the packages after you are done, they are not needed anymore.
[10:48] <wolfgyone> please answer to me about xboard or another board to play chess online
[10:48] <nico8481> k thx
[10:48] <leafw> lunitik : how does one measure the resolution in the tty?
[10:49] <leafw> lunitik : and also, same effect is at play when switching to macosx (mol), or when closing the lid to put the computer to sleep.
[10:49] <leafw> feels like X sticks in control of the screen way to much.
[10:50] <lunitik> wolfgyone: knights I think can be played online.... not sure though
[10:50] <lunitik> leafw: if you don't know, its probably set to 640x480... what resolution is your GUI set to?
[10:51] <wolfgyone> lunitik ok I will try, T Y
[10:51] <lunitik> leafw: I'm not sure wrt going to sleep...
[10:51] <leafw> lunitik : GUI is 1280x768 (standard for Ti powerbooks)
[10:51] <lunitik> leafw: append 'vga=792' to your grub menu.lst and see if that makes any difference
[10:51] <leafw> lunitik : can't do that, yaboot here (Apple Powerbook Ti)
[10:51] <lunitik> (actually, I think thats 1024x768  :o )
[10:52] <lunitik> leafw: ahhh... well, yaboot ought to have a simular thing... its a kernel argument, so it should work irrelivant of boot manager
[10:52] <leafw> lunitik : actually, when going to sleep the computer goes to the tty, so it may be the same problem
[10:53] <leafw> let's see the yaboot.conf
[10:53] <lunitik> leafw: thats just strange really... but yeah... there should be a line telling yaboot where the kernel is... should also say something about the splash etc... thats where you throw it
[10:54] <leafw> lunitik : is the effect dinamic? After setting vga=792 and ybin, the effect should be immediate?
[10:54] <lunitik> leafw: nope... you have to reboot afaik...
[10:55] <leafw> lunitik : argh xD then I'll have to wait (long processes running)
[10:55] <lunitik> leafw: thats fine... that should make switching faster though... current situation will have it changing resolution etc when you switch...
[10:56] <leafw> lunitik : I wonder though why breezy didn't have that problem?
[10:56] <lunitik> leafw: it more than halfs the speed here... although from what you describe, that will still leave it taking WAY too long
[10:56] <leafw> so vga=792 accomplishes what? How is the resolution specified in only one number?
[10:56] <lunitik> leafw: search google for how... I just know thats how the kernel defines it  ;)
[10:57] <lunitik> leafw: I think its actually 1024x768 with 24bit color... (792)
[10:58] <lunitik> leafw: if you set X to use the same resolution... see if you notice any difference... then see about what 1280x1024 would be if its noticeable
[10:58] <leafw> lunitik : but desktop is 1280x768
[10:58] <lunitik> leafw: I don't have them all memorized... hold on
[11:02] <lunitik> leafw: it appears you'd want 'vga=789'
[11:02] <leafw> lunitik : which hastable are you reading?
[11:02] <leafw> can't find anything on target on google.
[11:03] <DaSkreech> !away
[11:03] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages.
[11:03] <nico8481> where should i modify the KDEDIRS and PATH variables?
[11:03] <leafw> nico8481 : in the terminal, or in your ~/.bashrc
[11:03] <nico8481> ok
[11:04] <nico8481> thought they were defined "globally" somewhere in /etc
[11:04] <leafw> nico8481 : such as export PATH=$PATH:/something/else
[11:04] <leafw> nico8481 : they are, in a general .bashrc so to speak (bash_profile or whatever)
[11:05] <nico8481> ok so i'm gonna modify it there, i'd like it to be effective for all users
[11:05] <nico8481> (although i'm the only user but, well :) )
[11:06] <nico8481> alghough i did a "grep KDEDIRS *" in /etc and got no result
[11:06] <uniq> nico8481: /etc/environment
[11:06] <uniq> if they are not listed just add them to the file.
[11:07] <nico8481> looks like KDEDIRS is blank by default...
[11:08] <kuba> anyone using vim + python ? I search for plugin/.vimrc to ease development..
[11:09] <nico8481> ok brb, starting the new version of konversation...
[11:10] <georgeblunt> xchat for president ;)
[11:11] <hybrid> irssi for head of the new world order
[11:11] <georgeblunt> lol
[11:12] <mads> hi
[11:13] <mads> is it obly me or does Firefox and thunderbird look a bit weird in Kubuntu
[11:13] <mads> weird = some gfx errors in the widgets
[11:17] <nico8481> re
[11:18] <mads> ahh solved
[11:19] <mads> its when QT tries to aply its theme to a gtk application
[11:19] <mads> bahhh
[11:19] <Lunar_Raven> what was the problem?
[11:20] <mads> serois gfx errors
[11:20] <mads> serious
[11:20] <Lunar_Raven> just for reference, if you compile the cvs version of gtk-qt , it seems to work very better
[11:20] <Lunar_Raven> It solved all my problems
[11:20] <mads> too lazy to compile
[11:20] <mads> ;-)
[11:20] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[11:20] <Lunar_Raven> fair enough :P
[11:21] <mads> well thx for the hint anyway
[11:21] <mads> :-)
[11:21] <mads> i can live with the Win95 look
[11:22] <DaSkreech> Anyone works on KDE?
[11:25] <McScruff> is there a flash player 8 for linux?
[11:25] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[11:25] <McScruff> i cant look at a fookin webpage!!
[11:25] <MetaMorfoziS> fookin ms sponsored fookin adobe
[11:25] <MetaMorfoziS> fook up all about flash
[11:26] <McScruff> im gonna have to load windows.... :(
[11:26] <TheHighChild> Anyone using Gaim 2 Beta?
[11:26] <MetaMorfoziS> you may press alt+f4
[11:26] <McScruff> i'll get it 2moro
[11:27] <MetaMorfoziS> flash isn't improtant, it's a cup of crap, from the matter's angle it isn't important
[11:27] <MetaMorfoziS> some fookin lamer webmaster use it
[11:27] <MetaMorfoziS> fook...
[11:29] <mads> fookin'??
[11:30] <McScruff> fook = nicer then fuck
[11:30] <mads> eh no ;-)
[11:30] <MetaMorfoziS> fookin, yes. fookin ms, adobe, macromedia...
[11:30] <mads> it reminds of a Eddie murphy sketch actually  :-D
[11:30] <MetaMorfoziS> and webmasters thath uses flash in any form
[11:32] <mads> sorry i'm not a GPL purist
[11:32] <nixternal> !language
[11:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:32] <MetaMorfoziS> !language kurva anyd
[11:32] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS
[11:35] <unix_infidel> hey guys i've been having this problem with my mouse drivers. I physically have to unplug and replug the mouse in in order for ohci to wake up and recognize it.
[11:36] <unix_infidel> i'm assuming its a kernel issue?
[11:36] <nixternal> unix_infidel: laptop or desktop?
[11:37] <unix_infidel> desktop
[11:37] <nixternal> that is odd. so it happens coming back from hibernation?
[11:37] <unix_infidel> nixternal: nope.  i dont hiberate on this comp.
[11:38] <unix_infidel> it happens whenever i boot.
[11:38] <nixternal> ahhhh...ok...still odd
[11:38] <nixternal> what kind of mouse is it?
[11:38] <unix_infidel> yea...
[11:38] <unix_infidel> kensington scroll mouse, xorg.conf is fine....i know that much.
[11:38] <Lunar_Raven> is it a usb mouse?
[11:39] <unix_infidel> all my modules are properly loaded...but for some reason it takes something like a physical action for ohci to akw up.
[11:39] <unix_infidel> Lunar_Raven: yes.
[11:39] <unix_infidel> hence ohci_hcd
[11:39] <nixternal> OHCI=firewire and usb open host standard..which i believe compaq created
[11:39] <Lunar_Raven> maybe a bios issue?  Is it set to load usb emulation?  I believe I had that issue awhile back
[11:39] <Lunar_Raven> ah yes
[11:39] <Lunar_Raven> o.O
[11:39] <unix_infidel> nope...no usb emulation
[11:39] <nixternal> it is older...usb 1 i believe....because usb2 uses UHCI i think
[11:40] <unix_infidel> worked perfectly fine in breezy.
[11:40] <nixternal> actually...my other system here would utilize OHCI since it is older...and the mouse on that is USB but i don't have any issues like that whatsoever
[11:40] <Lunar_Raven> hmm
[11:41] <nixternal> unix_infidel: type>  dmesg | grep ohci
[11:41] <nixternal> any errors or anthing there?
[11:41] <unix_infidel> no errors.
[11:41] <nixternal> whoa..actually that other system of mine has uhci...what kind of system do you have unix_infidel?
[11:42] <unix_infidel> i think it might be a kernel issue.
[11:42] <unix_infidel> nixternal: sempron
[11:42] <unix_infidel> like i said, it worked fine with a previous kernel in breezy and the exact same section for xorg.conf.
[11:42] <unix_infidel> maybe a kernel-686 upgrade will do the job.
[11:43] <nixternal> ehci=usb2...uhci & ohci = usb1 or 1.1...i see now..
[11:44] <nixternal> maybe unix_infidel..because i don't think that the usb should be using ohci..but should be either using uhci or ehci
[11:44] <unix_infidel> anyone else with any ideas?
[11:45] <nixternal> what motherboard you have in that system? or is it proprietary?
[11:45] <ubuntu> i got a problem
[11:45] <unix_infidel> no...its ohci.
[11:45] <unix_infidel> ECS
[11:46] <DarkRavenMixage> i got a problem
[11:46] <DarkRavenMixage> i got ubuntu installed before
[11:46] <DarkRavenMixage> i did a sudo apt/get install kubuntudesktop
[11:46] <nixternal> unix_infidel: if a kernel upgrade fixes it, let me know..i was going to purchase a low end sempron..this way here if i come across the issue i will know what to do
[11:47] <DarkRavenMixage> but when i try to start kde interface with a normal user, i can-t log in it returns me with the error @could not start kstartconfig please check you installation, so i can login only as the root.. someone knows how to fix that???
[11:48] <ChefWill> copy your roots config to the user
[11:48] <ctford0> hello
[11:48] <nixternal> ctford0: hello
[11:49] <ctford0> looking for some grub help
[11:49] <nixternal> maybe i can help you out..what seems to be the problem?
[11:49] <ctford0> been using linux for a long while but the installer would not install on the mbr
[11:49] <DarkRavenMixage> chefwill.... it-s not a good solution...
[11:49] <ctford0> and i've tried by hand as well without any luck
[11:50] <georgeblunt> quick question: how can i change the icons of programs (those which are being displayed in the taskbar).. this blue ball of firefox gets on my nerves.. i want the fox ;)
[11:51] <imbrandon> right click, click configure button , click the icon in the top left and choose a new one
[11:51] <DarkRavenMixage> please help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation
[11:51] <imbrandon> brb
[11:52] <nixternal> georgeblunt: you can try imbrandon's way and if that don't work read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t-30133
[11:52] <nixternal> ctford0: is this occuring during an install?  and what happens if you boot your machine, do you get anything after bios initializes?
[11:54] <ctford0> it just tells me that it isnt a valid boot device and i have to boot from the cd
[11:54] <DarkRavenMixage> please help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation
[11:54] <ctford0> this is a new install
[11:54] <nixternal> DarkRavenMixage: ls -l ~/
[11:54] <nixternal> tell me what that says when you do that ^^
[11:55] <nixternal> is everything say your username:username
[11:55] <georgeblunt> nixternal: there is no thread
[11:55] <Dasnipa`> chrisd writes "We're very happy to announce that the a new version of Google Earth has been released. It features 3D textured buildings, some neat UI updates, better internationalization and, with this release, a native Linux version is available for download as well. The Google Earth team (with the help of Ryan Gordon) worked very hard to make this possible. Please see the Earth support site and check out the BBS for more informat
[11:55] <Dasnipa`> ion." !!
[11:56] <nixternal> ok ctford0...copy the bottom portion of your /boot/grub/menu.lst file and paste it at http://kubuntu.pastebin.com    and then give me url after you pasted it
[11:56] <georgeblunt> imbrandon: this would only change the button, wouldn't it?.. besides, i need root access to change the icon..
[11:56] <RogueJediX> A Linux version of Google Earth? Kickass!
[11:57] <nixternal> georgeblunt: sorry... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30133
[11:57] <nixternal> there you go
[11:57] <nixternal> !language
[11:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:57] <georgeblunt> nixternal: thanks :)
[11:58] <ctford0> nixternal, i currently dont have network access configured on the machine
[11:58] <nixternal> np georgeblunt
[11:58] <nixternal> ok ctford0..are you installing on regular ide drives?
[11:58] <nixternal>  /dev/hda
[11:58] <ctford0> nixternal, that's another one of my issues :) wpa-psk with a prism2 card
[11:58] <DarkRavenMixage> no one can help me????
[11:58] <nixternal> don't get me started with wpa-psk and prism2 or orinoco
[11:58] <ctford0> yea, its a laptop with the interal drive being hda
[11:59] <ctford0> grub see's the drive as hd0
[11:59] <nixternal> DarkRavenMixage:  i posted a question and you ddin't reply
[11:59] <tozei> BRASIL
[11:59] <tozei> BRASIL AJUDA
[11:59] <nixternal> DarkRavenMixage: type>  ls -l ~/
[11:59] <DarkRavenMixage> nixternal how to did the simbol before the &
[11:59] <nixternal> does it say         username:username
[11:59] <DarkRavenMixage> before the /
[11:59] <tozei> BRASIL AJUDA
[11:59] <ctford0> and when i run grub; root (hd0,0); setup (hd0) everything seems to work ok
[11:59] <DarkRavenMixage> in windows i managed to use alt 0126
[11:59] <ctford0> it just won't boot
[11:59] <nixternal> look next to your #1 key..to the left
[12:00] <nixternal> ctford0: is it pointing tot he correct drive in the menu.lst...does grub come up at boot in the first place?
[12:00] <ctford0> no no grub at all
[12:00] <nixternal> arg..ok
[12:01] <mrfishhat> install grub?
[12:01] <visik7> google earth for linux!!!!!
[12:01] <DarkRavenMixage> nixternal i got italian keyboard
[12:01] <mrfishhat> grub-install hd0
[12:01] <DarkRavenMixage> lol
[12:01] <nixternal> i got ya DarkRavenMixage my apologies
[12:01] <DarkRavenMixage> wait ill search
[12:01] <LiteHedded> can I upgrate with apt?
[12:02] <nixternal> DarkRavenMixage: let me point you to a forum that might help you>>     http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions//showthread.php?=328302
[12:02] <nixternal> DarkRavenMixage: ^^
[12:02] <nixternal> LiteHedded: yes
[12:02] <mrfishhat> how do i enable messages
[12:02] <mrfishhat> L
[12:02] <mrfishhat> ??
[12:02] <nixternal> LiteHedded: #   sudo apt-get update
[12:02] <nixternal> LiteHedded: #   sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:02] <DarkRavenMixage> i managed to write the ~
[12:03] <mrfishhat> like with write
[12:03] <LiteHedded> so update first then upgrade?
[12:03] <clintc_laptop> I've turned off my application menus in konqueror and would enjoy having them back - please help
[12:03] <sokuban> I need something called X (or X-dev) for compiling a source code. I can't seem to find out how to get it
[12:03] <DarkRavenMixage> nixternal it-s all username username
[12:03] <nixternal> yes LiteHedded that way there the cache gets the latest information