=== erdalronahi [n=erdal@p50877627.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-38-15.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad === jamesh [n=james@203-59-208-190.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-181-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #launchpad === moving-dragons [n=ahanson@24.69.202.156] has joined #launchpad [06:08] what is worldwide soyuz appreciation day? [06:11] hello? === moving-dragons [n=ahanson@24.69.202.156] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === moving-dragons [n=ahanson@24.69.202.156] has joined #launchpad === moving-dragons [n=ahanson@24.69.202.156] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-181-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #launchpad === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@203.89.166.123] has joined #launchpad === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@ppp137-2.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [09:02] good morning === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-77-127.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad === frodon_ido [n=patrick@ip-213-49-171-219.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #launchpad === Yannig [n=yannick@AToulouse-254-1-32-110.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad [09:42] Hello everybody [09:43] Do someone remember where I can set the default first day of the week? [09:43] I thought it was in gnome-panel but I cannot find it :( [09:51] Yannig: i don't know. Try asking on #ubuntu. [09:51] Thanks :) === malcc [n=malcolm@host81-159-193-176.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined #launchpad [09:58] good morning malcolm [09:59] Morning === jinty [n=jinty@242.Red-83-49-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [10:24] morning SteveA [10:25] morning robert [10:26] how art thou ? [10:26] morning guys [10:28] hello david! [10:28] i'm okay, although kinda stiff and bruised -- paintball game on sunday [10:29] your idea of a relaxing sunday? [10:29] i made a couple of ill-advised moves, like dodging through the crossfire to grab the flag in the middle of the field (which worked) [10:29] and then running back to base with it (which didn't) ;-) [10:30] SteveA: lol === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-091-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad [10:46] And still no news for the Occitan mailing-list :( [10:47] I'm about to give-up with Rosetta if we are not able to communicate between translators :( [10:50] Yannig: have you been chatting with Jordi about this ? [10:51] No, I tried with jdub but never answers [10:53] Yannig: hes really the Guy That Knows, not jdub [10:54] Yannig: does jordi know about your desire for an Occitan mailing list? [10:54] So I'll try with Jordi [10:54] SteveA> I talked about it with carlos, I don't know if Jordi knows about it [10:55] okay. sorry that this is taking a while to get sorted out. tell me your email address, and i'll send an email to you and jordi [10:56] SteveA> Well, I can wait for it to be processed but I'd like at least to know whether it's in the queue :) [10:57] SteveA> yannick.marchegay@lokanova.com (for https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-l10n-oc) [10:57] Thanks a lot :) [11:00] mail sent [11:03] Yannig: we'll try to get your list created asap [11:04] morning all [11:07] hi sivan [11:07] hi jordi [11:07] hi SteveA, everyone [11:15] Morning === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-242-216.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #launchpad [11:26] hey SteveA , jordi , Kinnison [11:26] good morning daniel [11:31] jordi> Thanks :) === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #launchpad === marcus_notebook [n=mholthau@dz6330fenner-e0.fx-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #launchpad [11:39] jamesh: lifeless: SteveA: mpool: meeting in 21 mins [11:39] somebody please call spiv [11:39] what does Test failed mean for bazaar status field? [11:39] I have set up some upstream svn projects to be imported in bazaar a few days ago [11:39] but it does not seem to work [11:39] https://launchpad.net/products/xfdesktop/trunk [11:40] Janimo: it means that the initial import test failed and that you need to ask me for more details === erdalronahi [n=erdal@p50877279.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [11:40] for example, same for thunar [11:40] janimo: I will have a meeting soon, and need to prepare it, but I'll look at the issue soon after. [11:40] ddaa: thanks [11:49] ddaa: its a public holiday in .au [11:49] ddaa: mpool sends his apologies, I expect spiv has updated the agenda page with his. [11:55] duh [11:55] little point having a bazaar meeting w/o the aussies [11:56] SteveA: meeting in 4 mins, provided you are not on a public holiday too [11:56] ddaa: i'm around [11:57] Well, I had prepared a nice agenda as usual, at least I'll have one public... [11:57] ddaa: I'm here, being on UK time I dont get a holilday :( [11:57] well, being *in the UK* [11:58] interesting [11:58] lifeless: next time you are asked for a sprint, don't be a sucker, ask for thailand [11:58] clearly [11:58] they seem to have holidays every other day there. [11:58] brb [12:00] back [12:02] ddaa, is the meeting public? === Yannig [n=yannick@AToulouse-254-1-32-110.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad [12:05] janimo: the meeting isn't public. but, we're not talking about anything very interesting :-) #launchpad-meeting if you're interested. === marcin_ant [n=marcin@195.225.49.18] has joined #launchpad === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #launchpad [] === jamesh [n=james@203-59-208-190.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad [12:49] review meting in 10 === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #launchpad === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad [12:53] Yannig: do you understand a bit of Catalan? [01:02] yoyoyo [01:02] launchpad reviewer meeting time [01:02] roll call [01:02] hi [01:03] i'm here [01:03] Andrew is on public holiday [01:03] here [01:04] * Agenda [01:04] * Next meeting [01:04] * Queue status. [01:04] next meeting - 19ths at the same time ? [01:05] jordi> I can understand it more or less (with French, Occitan and Spanish) [01:05] jordi> Why? [01:05] lifeless: bjorn will be at the paris conf [01:05] SteveA: so will I [01:06] SteveA: I'm ok if born wants to skip the meeting. [01:06] but there should be one all the same [01:06] any other objections ? [01:07] 5 [01:07] 4 [01:07] 3 [01:07] 2 [01:07] 1 [01:07] ok, 19th at 11UTC it is. [01:08] queue status: [01:08] last week we had 2 reviews open at 4daus/ [01:08] this week is 3 open at 3 days - which is about ideal for a Monday. [01:08] *great work* everyone [01:09] lets keep it up. [01:09] The queue doesn't show pre-code review calls. [01:09] so lets talk about those. [01:09] who has been the reviewer for one ? [01:10] I did one for spiv [01:10] i reviewed carlos and brad [01:11] I have not done one yet, as reviewer or supplicant [01:11] SteveA: - have you ? [01:11] stub informally outlined his approach to something (can't remember what now) during an infrastrcuture team call [01:12] i'm not sure i'd use the term "supplicant" for one asking for a pre-implementation review [01:12] true [01:12] I was taking odds on whether you would comment ;) [01:13] so coder is the term we use in the doco/process notes [01:13] have any of these branches come through for pre-merge review yet ? [01:14] i.e. mpt's one from 2 weeks back, or spivs/carlos/brads/stubs ? [01:14] the branches i pre-designed reviewed haven't come through yet [01:15] one of the branches on my review queue is from the call I did with spiv [01:15] mpt has been on holiday, so it isn't too surprising that nothing has come from that call yet [01:16] please pay attention when you review spivs one, as towhether you *think* the pre-merge review helped make the branch easier to review [01:16] also, it sounds like most of the lp team has still not been the coder for one of these pre-code phone calls yet [01:17] I think we all should do this at least once to know what it feels like from both ends of the phone line. [01:17] i think kiko has given one at least [01:17] but perhaps not mailed the list [01:17] ok [01:17] yeah, kiko reviewed me. he did send a mail to the list, but it wasn't an official 'pre-design report' [01:18] well, maybe not most of the team - but offhand it sounds like bjorn, spiv, stevea and lifeless are all still in the 'have not experienced this yet' camp. [01:18] meh, my fingers are bust [01:18] I meand 'jamesh' in that list [01:18] so, jamesh, stevea, lifeless. [01:18] yeah [01:18] action item for us is to find something to code, and get a pre-code review done of it. [01:19] any feelings about the process so far - do the calls seem to be productive? are you enjoying doing them ? [01:20] for my part i think it has been productive, both when being the coder and reviewer. [01:20] I think they have been useful. The two that I've done seemed to cover some issues that the developer hadn't thought about previously [01:21] thats good [01:21] SteveA? [01:22] ok === Yannig [n=Kokoyaya@AToulouse-254-1-32-110.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad [01:22] did you feel the same w.r.t. your call with stub ? [01:23] SteveA: ^ [01:24] the call with stub was mainly informational, communicating his plans out. there weren't any issues to bring up. [01:25] ok [01:25] I think that about wraps up the pre-code reviews discussion [01:25] are there any other/new issues to discuss ? [01:25] good morning, guys [01:26] 'lo cprov [01:26] 5 [01:27] 4 [01:27] meh, too slow [01:27] 3 [01:27] 2 [01:27] 1 [01:27] 0 [01:27] meeting ends - thanks guys.. [01:27] s/\.\./. [01:29] Yannig: I was curious :) [01:29] jordi> Molt ben :) [01:37] ddaa: hi there. regarding mplayer autoimport, you said that you kicked the test, but the import status is still 'testing'. are there still problems with the import? [01:38] siretart: none, it's just very large [01:38] and baz slows down painfully after a few thousand commits [01:38] currently up to revision 9223 [01:39] ddaa: aaah, I see. I supposed there were some problems because they are using svn:externals for ffmpeg [01:40] hu [01:40] there good to know, externals are not supported [01:40] so it's likely to fail the cross-check validity test [01:42] the cvs import code goes to some length to ignore the module configs, each module must be imported separately. The svn code does not have the equivalent support yet. [01:57] oh :( === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === lincao [n=lincoln@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [02:08] is spiv on holiday? === mythbusters [n=mythbust@213-202-131-103.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #launchpad === mythbusters [n=mythbust@213-202-131-103.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] [02:30] yes, its a publich holiday in NSE [02:30] NSW [02:38] meh === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #launchpad [02:59] siretart: mplayer import failed: OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory [03:00] ddaa: :( - but since svn:externals don't work anyway.. [03:02] siretart: I'm adding that import on https://help.launchpad.net/VcsImportRequests and will try it again once we have bzr-native imports set up. [03:03] ddaa: ok. thanks for looking into this issue === carlos_ [n=carlos@13.Red-88-15-198.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [03:07] hi === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable207.210-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable092.66-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad [03:28] hi bradb [03:28] hey BjornT [03:29] bradb: how about a skype call soon? [03:29] sure...maybe in an hour? [03:29] hi Brad! [03:29] sure, in an hour is good [03:29] flacoste: salut! [03:30] (Hi to everyone here, I'm the new developer, Francis Lacoste) [03:30] flacoste: welcome :) [03:31] brabd: tnx! [03:31] hi flacoste. welcome to the team! you'll be working on the support tracker, right? [03:31] that's what I understood, yes [03:31] anyone else working on that? [03:32] hi flacoste. welcome aboard [03:33] flacoste: cool. i've been doing some work on it in the past, but not lately. matsubara has done some work on it as well. [03:33] flacoste: welcome! === Yannig [n=yannick@AToulouse-254-1-32-110.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad [03:34] BjornT: any hints on where should I start? [03:35] i mean, is there kind of a 'New Launchpad Developer Howto' somewhere? === flacoste is now known as fjlacoste === fjlacoste is now known as flacoste [03:36] flacoste: hi! [03:37] flacoste: there is a LaunchpadHackingFAQ on wiki.launchpad.canonical.com [03:37] sivang: thanks a lot! [03:37] flacoste: np :) [03:37] flacoste: https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/NewLaunchpadder [03:38] flacoste: as well :) [03:39] flacoste! [03:39] welcome [03:39] hi kiko! [03:39] how's it going up north? [03:39] it is a bright blue day today [03:39] my brain however is still stuck in 2nd gear === kiko yawns off the weekend races [03:40] here too, it looks like we are going to have a sunny day... after a lot of rain, it will be welcome === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad [03:43] not /that/ button! === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #launchpad ["Left] === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus [n=mholthau@dz6330fenner-e0.fx-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #launchpad === tortho [n=tortho@126.84-49-96.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #launchpad [04:10] ddaa: hi, I need to see about xfce svn and externals [04:10] not sure why those errors occur [04:11] external is just an hypothesis [04:11] http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/modules/trunk [04:11] there are many modules checked out from here [04:11] thunar, xfdesktop are among them [04:11] so it may be externals actually [04:13] I think bzr cannot yet handle subprojects like svn w/o config-manager? [04:13] actually... it's apparently even a failure in checkout... [04:13] pysvn.Client.checkout [04:13] janimo: those are different issues [04:13] bzr does not have explicit nested trees support [04:14] but it's not even clear how cscvs (the importd engine) would use them [04:14] the first step would be to just avoid traversing externals [04:14] and leave it to the user to reassemble things [04:15] nested trees support is progressing, but not done yet === tortho [n=tortho@126.84-49-96.nextgentel.com] has left #launchpad [] [04:15] but at this point, I'd just like an idea of what caused this failure [04:15] for project management purposes [04:15] I don;t know how to check using svn commands if a module uses externals [04:15] and I just do not have the time to investigate [04:16] janimo: just leave it, then. Eventually somebody will pop up with the right bit of knowledge. [04:16] I'll keep you informed on any progress. [04:16] ddaa: ok, thanks [04:17] svn proplist | grep externals? [04:23] LarstiQ: yes, look with svn pl and the only svn:ignore is there === Yannig [n=LokaUsr@AToulouse-254-1-32-110.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #launchpad [] [04:30] BjornT: wanna do a call in like 3 mins? [04:31] bradb: sure [04:34] BjornT: calling now... === lincao [n=lincoln@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@dz6330fenner-e0.fx-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #launchpad === bradb heads to the office, bbiab [05:32] carlos, CONGRATULATIONS! [05:32] this is most welcome! [05:32] kiko: PoMsgSetPage? [05:32] ;-) [05:32] what else! [05:33] aka 'the smelling branch' [05:33] :-P === mpt [n=mpt@209.217.74.66] has joined #launchpad [05:34] mpt: are you around? or it's just your computer working for you while you sleep? ;-) [05:38] Goooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [05:39] Good morning Carlos! [05:39] mpt: goood morning! [05:39] It's a balmy morning here in Montr?al [05:39] mpt: oh, you are in Montreal! [05:39] I see ;-) [05:39] I'm having a lovely holiday [05:40] hmm, I was going to ask you for some UI review.... [05:40] but I guess I could ask you it so you could do it when you start working again ;-) === carlos uses the email [05:43] mpt: enjoy your holidays! [05:43] kiko: do you have 5 minutes for me? [05:44] carlos, is it on a public Web server somewhere? [05:44] mpt: staging [05:44] I'm not doing anything more important than e-mail right now [05:44] URL? [05:46] https://staging.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/gnome-desktop/+pots/gnome-desktop-2.0/es/+translate [05:47] mpt: and the form you get from the zoom icon near the message number (those are more or less the same, in fact, both use the same macros [05:48] carlos, I don't get it [05:48] what's the individual form for? [05:48] why would anyone use it? [05:48] PoMsgSetPage specification [05:49] mpt: the main form limits the amount of suggestions we show [05:49] to render only last 3 entries [05:49] the individual form shows any suggestion we have [05:49] will be much more useful once the translation review spec is implemented [05:50] carlos, the full page you gave me the URL for has 4 suggestions for some items [05:50] mpt: last 3 entries per section [05:50] oh, so 3 "Used elsewhere:", then 3 "Suggested elsewhere", etc [05:51] right [05:51] hmmm [05:51] carlos, I'm having trouble imagining anyone wanting to use the one-at-a-time view [05:52] mpt: As I said, it will be much more useful for the review UI [05:52] mpt: also, we could start adding in that other form much more information [05:53] like, timestamps when those suggestions were added [05:53] the number of places where it's being used, etc... [05:54] hmm, ok === bradb [n=bradb@209.217.74.66] has joined #launchpad [05:55] though I think that would still work better with expanders to display them in-place [05:57] mpt: but that would imply AJAX [05:57] mpt: that form is already too slow [05:57] carlos, maybe so [05:58] but that that might be difficult to implement doesn't make a non-Ajax implementation automatically usable :-) [05:59] carlos, one easy thing to fix is to combine the "Change" and "Filter" buttons into a single button [06:00] I splitted them as part of that patch [06:00] why? [06:00] mpt: on filters messages, and the other adds another kind of suggestions [06:00] IMHO are two different actions [06:01] Neither of them are actions [06:01] s/on/one/ [06:01] They're view options [06:01] oh, I see, the single-string view doesn't have the filter [06:01] right [06:02] but still, when you click "Save & Continue" in the single string, Rosetta needs to decide which string to show you next [06:02] whether that's a translated one, etc [06:02] so both still should be there, right? [06:05] carlos, I'm on the phone but wbbias [06:05] mpt: no, the single view navigates thru all messages available, without taking into account any kind of filtering [06:05] carlos, is there a deliberate reason for that? [06:06] or could you add the filter to the single-message view too? [06:06] mpt: what would you do if you select 'See untranslated messages' when you are viewing a translated one? [06:06] display the next 1 untranslated message [06:07] mpt: what's next? [06:07] just as you'd display the next 10 untranslated messages if you happened to be viewing 10 translated ones [06:07] Or does that normally go back to the beginning? [06:07] go back to the beginning [06:07] ok, so go back to the beginning here also === mpt times out staging === mpt scours the width of the language menu [06:09] carlos, while I think of it, can you remove "German, Middle High" and "German, Old High"? [06:10] mpt: I guess we should show there only languages that we got translations for... [06:10] They appear to be the widest items in the menu, and apparently they haven't been spoken for 504 and 944 years respectively [06:11] carlos, isn't that what we did before, and then we got complaints that some languages were inaccessible because they didn't have any translations yet? [06:11] We should be showing languages based on whether people speak them, not based on whether people have started translating into them [06:13] mpt: that kind of language selector is only to get suggestions from our database [06:13] so I'm not talking about removing those languages from our database, but to hide them from that menu === carlos -> phone... [06:14] Sure, but if they're not available as languages people can translate into, they're not going to contain useful suggestions anyway, are they [06:14] I am proposing that Middle High German and Old High German be available in *neither* list [06:15] and if that offends any hexocenterian Germans, I'm sorry, but they probably can't read what I'm writing anyway [06:15] hexacentenarian, rather [06:15] mpt: Yeah, I guess we could remove them from our database [06:15] mpt: ;-) [06:16] bbiab, lunch === cprov [i=cprov@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === bradb [n=bradb@209.217.74.66] has joined #launchpad [06:33] mpt: oh dull, you don't know good retrotechnology! [06:40] ddaa: got a second to debug a new odd sm-ng behaviour? or is there someone else dealing with that? [06:51] Keybuk: sure, what is it? [06:52] Keybuk: sorry about last week, but I really had to focus entirely on cscvs coding [06:52] that's no problem [06:52] https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-core-dev/+branch/udev/ubuntu.result-whitespace [06:53] I've only just started to push that branch (it's still pushing now) but it's already got an error on it [06:53] nothnig weird [06:53] I'd expect that the branch is not valid until it's entirely pushed [06:53] SteveA: still away? [06:53] mh [06:54] Keybuk: and the branch puller does not know that you are still pushing... it's one the things that you cannot really get right short of a smart server [06:56] is it trying to mirror on every push now? [06:56] nope, it's trying to mirror periodically [06:57] the fix spiv suggested to mirror hosted branches on every run of the cron script (about every 10 mins) [06:57] is not acceptable because it would interact badly with another bug [06:57] what's the current period? [06:58] one day [06:58] it's consistently doing this for every new branch I create though? [06:59] or am I flukily doing things while the mirroring is happening? [06:59] yeah, that's "normal" behaviour. When you mkdir the branch, it gets created in the database, then in the next few minutes the branch puller sees that the branch has never been mirrored and tries to mirror it. Then it won't try to pull that branch for 24 hours. [07:00] oh, I see [07:00] Keybuk: you are doing nothing wrong, it's just that our code sucks. [07:00] how difficult is it going to be to get the mirroring up from 24 hours to 10 minutes? [07:00] not difficult [07:00] just need to be done right [07:00] what kind of timescale? [07:01] depends on when spiv can come around fixing it [07:01] couple of weeks at most [07:01] or jamesh... [07:01] I say spiv since he seems to have taken ownership of the issue. [07:02] ok, thanks [07:03] also thanks for giving stub the information he needs to clean up the ubuntu-seeds problems [07:03] this problem is not hard programming wise, it's a small bug to fix. It's just blocked on somebody actually fixing it, getting it though review, and getting rolled out. === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === ddaa goes back on rather more annoying problem of fixing the d-i imports that got moved [07:13] that reads to me as debian-installer, but probably not === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-242-216.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #launchpad [07:24] carlos: can you get teams renamed? [07:25] or is that a task for the mighty lifeless or stevea? [07:25] a team owner should be able to rename the team [07:25] otherwise, a member of the "admins" team can do that [07:25] nod [07:26] SteveA: I probably want https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-ph renamed to "ubuntu-l10n-fil" [07:26] probably? [07:27] mpt: Let me know when you have time to check out the attach-while-commenting feature. [07:27] i can't do a probably rename [07:27] s/probably// :) [07:27] it's a 1 or 0 thing [07:27] mpt: hi [07:27] he wants tshis team to translate kubuntu [07:27] jordi: i can rename that for you [07:27] so it needs to use the official scheme [07:28] jordi: send me a gpg-signed email and i will do it [07:29] mailing === mholthaus [n=mholthau@dz6330fenner-e0.fx-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #launchpad [07:30] hm [07:31] so we might be facing some controversy with the Filipino translation [07:31] it seems its the same language as Tagalog [07:33] but they have a language code, so.. [07:37] SteveA: got email? [07:38] jordi: yep [07:39] k [07:43] jordi: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-l10n-fil [07:48] SteveA: many thanks [07:48] Carlos, can you assign this to Ubuntu translators? [08:15] jordi: tagalog is definitely the language that the philippines community translates [08:16] jordi: you can ask jsgotancgo for more information, he is very familiar with that community [08:16] s/jsgotancgo/jsgotangco [08:17] mdke: good. [08:18] I was about to mail both the Tagalog leader(s) and this guy. [08:18] Because the issue is fishy at least. [08:19] jordi: yes, my understanding is that tagalog is the philippine language [08:24] might just be a bit of confusion [08:24] yeah [08:25] their constitution talking about Filipino doesn't help [08:26] too bad [08:26] he's not online rightn ow [08:27] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_language [08:27] SteveA: yeah, that made me worry about the political implications of this. [08:28] it's not our job to uphold their constitution [08:29] if they can get the ISO to change the ISO language codes, then we'll follow that [08:30] SteveA: your stance is that given they have a "fil" ISO code assigned, we should step back from questioning anything and let them go ahead? [08:30]