[12:03] kk [12:03] that guide is pretty good :) [12:04] nthdegree_: use the appropriate section as listed in http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-subsections === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] ok, I get this error http://pastebin.ca/64569 when running debuild -S while following http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-debhelper.html [12:13] is it a gpg error, a psychic guess :p [12:13] lol, I know that... [12:13] just wondering if anybody here had the same problem... [12:13] ryanakca so sudo apt-get install gnupg gpg-agent [12:13] i did ryanakca [12:13] "debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting...." [12:13] i know [12:14] that kinda gives it away, eh? [12:14] lol [12:14] because you need gpg-agent and to make a gpg key [12:14] E: Couldn't find package gpg-agent [12:14] I allready have a gpg key === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14] did you put a comment? [12:14] comment? [12:15] yeah when you made your gpg key [12:15] no [12:15] then you should be fine [12:15] I don't think so... that was what... 4 months ago.. I'll check in kgpg [12:15] no comment :) [12:16] you need the universe repo and gpg-agent also if there us a password on the secret/private key [12:16] is* [12:16] here this is what i used to help me through that annoying problem https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto?action=show&redirect=GPGKey [12:17] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list [12:17] then you should be able to get gpg-agent through synaptic [12:18] I don't have gpg-agent [12:18] and I don't think I've ever had a problem debsiging [12:19] I don't have gnupg-agent installed, nor have I had a problem debsigning. [12:19] crimsun well the wiki mentions gpg-agent and that was the only way round it for me [12:19] plus not having a comment :) [12:21] nthdegree_: no such package... gpg-agent: http://pastebin.ca/64580 [12:21] you need to be root for apt-get [12:21] however, I DO have gnupg [12:22] ... nthdegree.... read it... "aptitude search" [12:22] same for aptitude [12:22] there is no 'gpg-agent' package. [12:22] and I DO have gnupg-agent [12:22] nthdegree_: you do NOT need to be root for aptitude search OR apt-get search [12:22] I mean apt-cache search === ryanakca calms down... breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out [12:23] sorry [12:23] you need to export your key id then maybe === \sh [n=shermann@xdsl-81-173-249-203.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] why would that have anything to do with it? exporting it to a keyserver... [12:23] not to a keyserver [12:23] its a local problem, not remote [12:24] e.g. export GPGKEY=D8FC66D2 [12:24] done that. [12:24] ryanakca: why don't you just explicitly pass -kE95EDDC9 ? [12:24] <\sh> re [12:24] you resourced the bash rc [12:24] ryanakca: are you even sure 0xE95EDDC9 is the correct one? [12:24] re-sourced* [12:24] pub 1024D/E95EDDC9 2006-02-22 [12:24] uid Ryan Kavanagh === ryanakca just made the stupid mistake of pasting his e-mail in the channel [12:25] wonderfull [12:25] eh, it's not like you weren't being spammed anyway. [12:25] would be export GPGKEY=E95EDDC9 in your .bashrc [12:25] I wasn't === nthdegree_ spams :p [12:25] nthdegree_: its allready there [12:25] ryanakca: you mean you weren't /aware/ of being spammed. [12:26] anyhow [12:26] lol [12:26] well... 2 spam messages in Spam folder/label.. so I'm happy... gmail probably blocks most of the junk [12:26] crimsun_: you run Opera? [12:26] <\sh> real cracks have more then one email address ;) [12:26] *cough* gpg: problem with the agent - disabling agent use *cough* [12:26] gpg: problem with the agent - disabling agent use *coughs* [12:27] LaserJock: I have, yes, but presently epiphany-browser from -updates [12:27] so the agent may be the problem as it is needed for passwords i think [12:27] crimsun_: did you just install it from the Opera download site? Interestingly I was just moving from epiphany to Opera :-) [12:28] I see they have a Breezy download [12:28] LaserJock: I had Opera 9 beta 2 installed using the Debian Etch/testing version. [12:28] nthdegree_: no... it isn't... gnupg-agent just stores the passphrase for 5 minutes.. or however long you want it to. so that you don't allways have to retype it... [12:28] LaserJock: you'll need the xlibs from Breezy. [12:28] :/ [12:28] xlibs is empty/transitional. No harm. [12:29] but for 9b2 the etch version worked on Dapper? [12:29] yes. [12:30] I verified two minutes ago. [12:30] k, good enough for me [12:30] again, you need xlibs from Breezy. [12:30] ryanakca is your key just a DSA key? no ElGamal or w/e [12:30] epiphany just bugs me sometimes, so I need to have a second brower :-) === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-232-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] normally a key is 2048 bits and uses RSA + ElGamal [12:31] I wonder if the Unstable Opera would work better [12:31] LaserJock: arguably the drop-down location bar/menu behaviour in epiphany-browser is A Good Thing. [12:31] very arguable [12:31] I depend a lot on being able to modify a URL that is in the location bar [12:31] well from a usability perspective, if I click on a URI, I want to view it, not edit it. [12:32] can someone help ryanakca please :) i'm a tard and don't seem to know enough to recify the problem [12:32] ryanakca: uninstall gnupg-agent. [12:32] hmmm... DSA + ElGama subkey [12:32] <\sh> what's the problem with gnupg-agent? [12:32] re \sh [12:32] (sorry, got lost in the scrollback) [12:32] http://pastebin.ca/64569 [12:32] look @ that [12:33] nthdegree_: thanks for effort/help... gnupg article was good [12:33] <\sh> aha [12:33] <\sh> gpg-agent added to /etc/X11/Xsession.options ? [12:33] crimsun_: I'm used to at least being able to hit the right arrow to be able to edit the URL [12:34] LaserJock: broken historical behaviour imo [12:34] \sh: nope :) [12:34] crimsun_: I'm all ears for a better way [12:34] <\sh> ryanakca: try it and restart your xsession [12:34] \sh: what do I add? "gpg-agent"? "use-gpg-agent"? [12:35] LaserJock: "better" depends on your habits, no? I'd say what e-b does /is/ better, not to mention "correct." [12:35] <\sh> gpg-agent only [12:35] kk [12:35] crimsun_: so just go to a site I don't want to go to just grab part of the URL? that's very annoying for LP and wiki [12:36] LaserJock: if you subscribe to the "bookmark" paradigm, it makes more sense to just bookmark those urls for which you need "part" === nthdegree_ brb === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] hmm, that seems a little inefficent, but ok [12:37] LaserJock: why, do you find yourself visiting many /new/ URLs based on the same base? [12:38] yes [12:38] LP [12:38] sometimes I want to tack on a +bugs [12:38] or want +source/ [12:38] that's scriptable [12:38] I can do it really easy by editing places I've already been [12:39] brb, restarting xsession... [12:41] packages.qa.debian.org is another I use a lot, I'm not sure how the bookmark thing would work for that, I'll have to think about it [12:41] I can see what your saying about usability though [12:41] I'm just not sure how to do the things I want without using the "wrong" way [12:42] this seems prime for a (deskbar?) script [12:42] ala +bugs 1 [12:42] Malone bug 1 in Baltix "Microsoft has a majority market share" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [12:42] hehe, that too ;-) [12:42] or +sources 1 [12:42] hmmm [12:45] ok, well maybe I'll give epi another chance ;-) [12:46] use whatever is most efficient [12:47] morning all [12:47] well, I do like epiphany except these couple things, but maybe I just need to do things the "right" way [12:47] <\sh> moins ajmitch [12:49] hi ajmitch and \sh === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] <\sh> ryanakca: ah welcome back...now install pinentry-gtk or pinentry-kde whatever you like more [12:54] i made my package :D but where is it? [12:54] in ../ [12:54] hmmm, when was the -proposed repo announced? [12:54] or one level above the root of the extracted source [12:55] LaserJock: it wasn't. [12:55] nope i can't see it [12:55] but it did make it [12:55] oh, pbuilder? [12:55] yes [12:55] pbuilder [12:55] /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ unless you changed it. [12:55] ty [12:55] \sh: ty, pinentry-qt installed :) [12:56] now how do I send it off to the universe :) [12:57] oh 1st of all testing === Sp4rKy_ [n=max@lns-bzn-53-82-65-35-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] it works [12:58] sort of, it has all the bugs that are naturally in it but it works :D [12:58] crimsun_: do you know anything about the -proposed repo? can Universe packages be added? [12:59] LaserJock: like a dumping ground for -updates [12:59] \sh: now what? [12:59] <\sh> ryanakca: try to debsign your package [01:00] \sh: http://pastebin.ca/64595 [01:01] \sh how do i get my package etc. submitted [01:01] <\sh> ryanakca: pastebin your changelog pls [01:01] <\sh> nthdegree_: dput [01:02] <\sh> nthdegree_: and read on wiki something about how to upload to revu [01:03] \sh: http://pastebin.ca/64599 its just a practice package, btw... [01:03] nthdegree_: wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU [01:03] hi === gilligan_ [n=gilligan@p549AA051.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:04] I'm guessing there is quite a backlog on revu? [01:04] hello [01:04] rob: very much. [01:04] \sh: I'm following http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-debhelper.html [01:04] cool [01:04] rob: yes there is === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:04] what order are the packages listed in on revu? [01:05] <\sh> ryanakca: and use-agent in gpg.conf is disabled? [01:05] I have a question regarding external module compilation. Only info I could find was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ModuleBuilding -- which does not provide a lot of info -- I hope I won't be kicked out right away sending me off to #ubuntu.. :) [01:06] well, it /is/ a #ubuntu question... [01:06] well it's dev related and i've had no luck so far on #ubuntu when asking for it [01:07] \sh: dunno, sorry, got to go have supper, I'll check later, see you then (hopefully) [01:07] rob: by date and by kind (totally new package or an update/fix) I think [01:07] rob: althought they might have added sorting by number of advocates too [01:07] <\sh> gilligan_: as well #ubuntu, because this and -devel is about developing ubuntu and not developing with ubuntu :) === gilligan_ sighs and tries #ubuntu again [01:07] LaserJock, it felt kind of random [01:08] <\sh> gilligan_: but module-assistant is your friend, just in case the module is in universe or main [01:08] gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: the signature could not be verified. < can someone explain [01:08] this is for dput btw [01:08] <\sh> no gpg key, wrong changelog address [01:09] \sh, it certainly isn't. It's some experimental file stacking stuff that I am dealing with for my bachelor diploma [01:09] I dared not to touch the changelog I got an error everytime i touched it [01:09] \sh, unfortunately things have changed since I last compiled a kernel which was around 2.4.xyz :] [01:09] <\sh> gilligan_: oh then most likely the people from #breakmyubuntu can help ;) [01:09] <\sh> if there are any [01:09] lol [01:09] :] [01:09] gilligan_: (to avoid dragging this out further, can you pastebin the command{,s} you invoked and the error{,s}? [01:10] ) [01:10] \sh, what do I have to do because I keep breaking my changelog [01:10] rob: it isn't but it feels that way, REVU2 should have a better layout [01:10] <\sh> nthdegree_: work with dch and set in .bashrc those variables [01:10] <\sh> DEBFULLNAME="Stephan Hermann" [01:10] <\sh> DEBEMAIL="sh@sourcecode.de" [01:10] <\sh> EDITOR="vim" [01:10] <\sh> export DEBFULLNAME DEBEMAIL EDITOR [01:11] I thought Arch Linux's AUR web site (similar idea) has a reasonably good layout [01:11] <\sh> adjust debfullname and debemail to your correct values...and check that your used email address is added as uid to your gpg key [01:11] <\sh> (forget the $EDITOR) [01:15] crimsun_, http://gilligan.neuecouch.de/bla.txt <-- not much to see there.. but you get the idea of my problem -- I intalled the appropriate kernel source package .. I thought make oldconfig would create the relevant files such as modversions etc [01:15] gilligan_: install the appropriate linux-headers package instead [01:15] i have Martyn Hare as my GPG bits [01:16] ajmitch, that does not change anything [01:17] it should, since that's where the headers you're looking for are kept :) [01:17] hm, sounds like a fair chunk of NZ lost power during the night [01:17] how interesting [01:17] ajmitch, well I installed linux-headers-2.6.15-23 .. but that does *not* have modversions.h either [01:18] gilligan_: you're missing -arch [01:18] linux-headers-$(uname -r) [01:18] linux-headers-$(uname -r) [01:18] *ouch* === ajmitch is too slow for crimsun_ === crimsun_ blames the trans$ocean latency [01:19] (or perhaps it's sat) [01:19] hey ajmitch [01:19] (monday morning) [01:19] hey zul [01:19] how is it going? [01:19] crimsun_, ok..so /that/ solves the whole issue hehe [01:19] (hehe, meaning satellite ;) [01:19] crimsun_: cable, actually [01:19] gilligan_: right, you rarely need kernel-source [01:20] ajmitch: ah [01:21] crimsun_, I was wondering about that yes.. but as I didn't realize about headers-arch I thought 'hm..darn..well maybe I have to get the sources then' [01:21] well thanks for the help despite the fact that I belong in #ubuntu :] [01:21] i'll shut up now hehe === Sp4rKy_ is now known as Sp4rKy [01:29] still won't work..sigh [01:31] someone have a look at this http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/64611 what is up with it? [01:32] #1. incorrect version. #2. incorrect distribution. [01:32] parsechangelog/debian: error: badly formatted trailer line, at changelog line 5 [01:32] dch: fatal error at line 387: [01:33] and yes, #3. lines 5-6 need to be one unbroken line. [01:36] <\sh> nthdegree_: didn't you use dh_make in the first place? [01:36] i did [01:37] <\sh> dch should work then...until you broke the changelog badly like crimsun said [01:38] \sh what debuild bits do I need? [01:38] #1 and #2 aren't really important to dch, but #3 definitely is. [01:38] i fixed 3 [01:38] how do you use dch? [01:38] <\sh> nthdegree_: 1. man dch :) [01:39] the changelog is fine [01:40] it just wont dput :( [01:40] <\sh> nthdegree_: dch -i for version increase, dch -D dapper for setting distro to name dapper etc. [01:40] <\sh> nthdegree_: what are you trying to dput? .dsc file from a source package? [01:40] oh you use dput on that :$ [01:40] so you don't do the change file === Sp4rKy is now known as Sp4rKy|night [01:41] <\sh> nthdegree_: you dput the changes file ;) yes... but I wonder what's missing at your place [01:42] i think it is a .asc sor something [01:42] or* === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:43] \sh: there is the line "use-agent" in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf [01:44] #use-agent there is [01:44] it is commented out [01:45] but the agent works fine :) === gilligan_ [n=gilligan@p549AA051.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [01:46] <\sh> ryanakca: and it's commented out? [01:46] dpkg-parsechangelog: warning: no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined; using uid of process (1234) [01:46] that of any help? [01:46] qtella_0.6.5-1_amd64.changes qtella_0.6.5-1.diff.gz qtella_0.6.5.orig.tar.gz [01:46] qtella_0.6.5-1_amd64.deb qtella_0.6.5-1.dsc [01:46] \sh: no [01:46] that's what I end up with :) [01:47] <\sh> ryanakca: comment it out ...put a # in front of the line [01:47] \sh: done [01:48] <\sh> nthdegree_: that's just normal pbuilder chroot complain := [01:49] gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. \n gpg: the signature could not be verified.\n Please remember that the signature file (.sig or .asc) [01:49] YAY! it works! [01:49] ryanakca wait for the dependency hell and config changes 24/7 [01:49] <\sh> nthdegree_: debuild -S -sa in the debianized source tree and sign the package first and say it will be a orig source included upload [01:50] nthdegree_: ??? [01:50] meaning what? [01:50] ryanakca the pbuild doesn't always get the dependencies needed for the software, i had to do it like 5 times over [01:51] so \sh in /home/nthdegree/qtella-0.6.5 then? [01:51] <\sh> nthdegree_: yes [01:53] then after that do sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc? [01:53] <\sh> nthdegree_: yes [01:54] that is what I have been doing :> [01:54] <\sh> nthdegree_: or you know that it will build out of the box and you can forget the pbuilder call...just debuild -S -sa (means sign and source upload) and dput changes file [01:55] it works === LaserJock is about to tear his hair out (not that he has much left) trying to find a technical drawing app [02:01] dia looks nice, but you can't tell the dimensions of objects, that I can see [02:01] LaserJock: if you find one, I'd like to know about it [02:01] \sh so does the .deb ever get uploaded :| [02:02] <\sh> nthdegree_: to revu no..to our buildds n [02:02] <\sh> o [02:02] <\sh> we just do source uploads [02:02] <\sh> no binary uploads like debian has [02:02] oh lol [02:02] i found that so heavily confusing [02:03] so how does it ever end up in the repo as a binary :-S [02:04] <\sh> nthdegree_: you upload the source, then a buildd is coming along and picks up the source, and compiles it, and pushes the binaries to the archives [02:04] <\sh> nthdegree_: all this magic is in launchpad nowadays [02:04] bmonty: well, I've been using xfig for ages, but it appears that they got rid of most of the decimal places in Imperial (and it is buggy and out of date) [02:04] <\sh> nthdegree_: for ubuntu that is, debian is still using DAK ;) [02:05] hmmmmmmm ok :) [02:06] my gpg key is fresh so what do I do with it now so it is recognised as a known one? [02:07] <\sh> nthdegree_: find a debian maintainer or an ubuntu dev or member and get your key signed [02:07] <\sh> go to keysigning parties around your place [02:07] <\sh> or host one [02:08] <\sh> check http://www.biglumber.com/ for people around your area ready for keysigning [02:08] i mean for getting my key on the keyserver or does it need signing for that [02:09] <\sh> nthdegree_: no..for pushing your key to the keyserver it's just a gpg --send-key away [02:09] <\sh> nthdegree_: but to go the way of a motu with upload rights, you need to have your key signed by someone in the strongset [02:10] <\sh> nthdegree_: where do you come from_ [02:10] <\sh> ? [02:10] peterborough, cambridgeshire (England) [02:11] <\sh> england...there are some people from debian I think [02:12] <\sh> or other devs from the OSS world [02:12] <\sh> just check biglumber [02:12] closest is cambridge, i'll just have to wait till I start work properly :) get a car and go drive down [02:14] <\sh> nthdegree_: or if you have time visit the UbuntuDeveloperSummit in Paris...you will be thrilled to meet all the ubuntu cracks [02:14] i'd be closer to getting to germany and LinuxTag [02:14] I go every couple of years to germany :D [02:14] <\sh> nthdegree_: and sign some keys with them...and you are in the strongset yourself ;) [02:14] <\sh> nthdegree_: linuxtag just past ... [02:16] what is the difference anyway between getting in the strongset and just being mr unsigned? because you can still send off your packages etc. [02:16] <\sh> nthdegree_: in november there is linuxworldexpo in cologne...kubuntu.de is preparing a booth there..so just come to us :) I'll be there and amu and some other people known in the debian/ubuntu universe and if you get amu to sign your key..he is top 7 [02:16] <\sh> nthdegree_: the web of trust...If someone from strongset knows you, others can see, that you are not still a fake [02:18] that makes sense :) just take my passport and I should be fine with any luck [02:18] <\sh> nthdegree_: e.g. I know ogra and ogra knows me, so he signed my key, and I signed his key, now I will meet crimsun, and he checks my id etc. but he still doesn't believe me, that I am...so he can check my signatures, sees that ogra signed my key already, and somehow, ogra signed crimsuns key and vice versa, so he trusts ogra and therefore he can trust me [02:19] I hope to get lots of signatures in Paris [02:20] since I only managed to find 1 person to sign my key [02:20] <\sh> LaserJock: get kinnison to prepare a keysigning party :) he did it very well for UBZ === nthdegree_ hopes to get a job so he can afford to travel to get lots of key signings [02:21] oh one question before I forget, how do I backup my private and public keys (I reformat a lot) === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb220-255-205-188.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] <\sh> nthdegree_: on a usb stick, use smartcards, cd-r, whatever you use for backing up [02:22] I wish UBZ was this year. [02:22] <\sh> Erlang: too late ;) [02:22] yes but what do i copy? and is there any extra commands I may have to run? [02:22] I got into Ubuntu 1 year too late. [02:22] Ubuntu bug 1 in openssl "openssl: Expired certificates and recertification" [Normal,Resolved: notwarty] http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1 [02:22] <\sh> Erlang: but jbailey is still in montreal... [02:23] <\sh> nthdegree_: ~/.gnupg [02:23] as is sfflaw, no? [02:23] <\sh> crimsun_: should be [02:23] <\sh> and hub is as well in .ca [02:23] oops :$ I had 5 attempts at making keys so that's gonna be a lot of junk data [02:24] or can it only store 1 key [02:25] <\sh> nthdegree_: clean your mess :) now it's time to start over :) no one ever knows anything about your key right now [02:26] doh, think i'll have to re upload the qtella afterwards [02:26] but isn't there a way to export your private or secret key? [02:27] there is Simon Law in Montreal too... [02:28] in the Maintainer field, do I put My name, or do I put the name of the guy who wrote the program... nobody has made a package of it yet... [02:29] your name :) [02:29] <\sh> Erlang: sfflaw yes :) [02:30] oh [02:31] Erlang: I'm in Ottawa now [02:31] Erlang: actually Hull [02:32] different province, accross the river [02:32] cool cool [02:32] i'm in Sherbrooke [02:32] used to be in Montreal [02:32] I'm in Sherbrooke, and here to stay. [02:32] Hehe I met Simon at UBZ [02:33] nthdegree_: kk, ty [02:33] Kyral: did we meet too? [02:33] hub: Yah I think so [02:33] Kyral: we didn't sign keys [02:33] I was one of the people from Potsdam that wasn't Russ Nelson ;P [02:34] ah yeah [02:34] hub: I didn't have mine on me at the time. I had to borrow a laptop and printer to print mine out :P [02:34] we may have actually talked the sunday morning [02:34] Kyral: I have it on my business card [02:34] :-0 [02:34] I was only there for Ubuntu Love Day [02:34] Kyral: yeah [02:34] <\sh> Kyral: I think we met too :) [02:34] that is the only thing that doesn't change on my card [02:34] \sh: we did :D [02:34] maybe the email [02:34] <\sh> during Ubuntu love day [02:35] \sh: you were all around anyway [02:35] Kyral: coming to DesktopCon or OLS this year? [02:35] <\sh> I was sitting on the floor and was compiling python-qt ... [02:35] \sh: I was just trying to make my POS laptop no die [02:36] hub: where are those? [02:36] I can't come to Paris [02:36] <\sh> at least, ubz was quite a good conf...and nice people around...especially hubs surprised gf ;) [02:36] Kyral: OLS = Ottawa Linux Symposium [02:36] Kyral: Dekstop Con is just before [02:36] hub: when is that? [02:36] July [02:37] oy I don't have a car lol [02:37] http://www.desktopcon.org/2006/ [02:37] my boss will be there... [02:37] Kyral: train works to go to ottawa [02:37] Kyral: as well as buses [02:37] and I'm so close lol I'm in Potsdam for the summer [02:37] I can't go, yet. [02:37] Erlang: who do you work for? [02:37] Hehe if I go I'll prolly be representing Ubuntu no? [02:38] I'm there, paid by $WORK [02:38] hub: Ask me that again in a week. We have no website yet so I don't feel confortable saying that. === nthdegree_ has 3 OSes who would I represent :p [02:38] so I can't [02:38] Erlang: LOL [02:38] Erlang: 'cause I know a company in Sherbroole [02:38] s/l/k/ [02:38] I work for a little startup. [02:39] hub: lemme ask the people I went to UBZ with if they would like to go [02:40] Kyral: up to them [02:40] I'll be there anyway [02:40] I'm local [02:40] and I'm talking at DDC [02:40] ah [02:41] hub: I'll see. Depends if work will let me [02:41] weel, technically I can work from anywhere with an internet conn... [02:44] whoa...$250 to register? [02:47] Sorry not this time around :D [02:47] like any conference [02:47] Though the presentations sound awesome [02:47] early reg was cheaoer [02:47] Yah I saw [02:47] s/o/p/g === hub need to fix his keyboard [02:48] maybe next year hub :D [02:49] hmm..I wonder if Russ is going... === \sh [n=shermann@xdsl-81-173-249-203.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] anyway next time I'm in Ottawa I'll be sure to look you up Hub [02:52] what do you put in /etc/fstab to mount reiser4 for ubuntu [02:53] reiser4? [02:53] that didn't work [02:53] do you have the tools installed? :P [02:53] yes [02:53] uh...you have resier4 in your kernel? === farruinn [n=farruinn@ssprange-3.umm.maine.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] have no clue [02:53] He prolly modprobed it [02:53] yo farruinn! === \sh wouldn't touch reiserfs anymore [02:54] ext3 [02:54] <\sh> xfs [02:54] <\sh> and ext2/3 [02:54] JFS [02:54] at least it does not chain your disk to a chaine-list [02:54] well, /boot is ext3 [02:54] the rest is JFS :D [02:54] \sh xfs panicked my kernel [02:54] where losing hte middle lose the rest [02:54] Actually I have been playing with NILFS [02:54] <\sh> nthdegree_: what kernel are you running [02:54] standard ubuntu one [02:54] Kyral: I'm a conservative when it comes to filesystems [02:55] <\sh> nthdegree_: can't be... [02:55] hub: this is why I am playing with it on my usbkey :P === nthdegree_ doesn't think i have reiser4 support [02:55] nthdegree_: bingo :P [02:55] <\sh> nthdegree_: never did here..not even with EIT GPT disk partitions with >6TB partition size [02:55] reiser4 is still NOT in the kernel [02:55] only SuSE ships it [02:55] even RH does not [02:55] Jeez I should really register SHCD with FSF and LP [02:56] hub: Arch's Beyond does as well === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral finds it amusing that even though he doesn't run Ubuntu, he is still No.1 Local Support for it [02:59] http://pastebin.ca/64639 is the pbuilder error... something wrong with the control file or pbuilder? [02:59] lol [02:59] Missing dep? [02:59] yes [03:00] <\sh> ryanakca: wrong build-deps in debian/control missing gtk lib or whatever [03:00] You just answered your question :P [03:00] yah now I remember \sh, you showed me and farruinn how to use multiple pbuilders :D [03:00] kk... just that I don't know which package is needed... is there a way to figure it out... easily? [03:00] if it checks for >= 1.2, it's usually libgtk2.0-dev [03:01] err, libgtk1.2-dev [03:01] if it checks for >= 2.0, it's usually libgtk2.0-dev [03:01] which one... [03:01] <\sh> Kyral: did I? I was on crack at this time ;) [03:01] lol [03:01] kk... even though 2.0 >= 1.2? [03:01] ryanakca: usually the README/INSTALL will tell you [03:01] I think all of you were hunover :P [03:02] One of the things that I keep remembering from that day is Jeff Waugh saying multiple times "We do NOT have a drinking problem on this project!" [03:02] <\sh> Kyral: sure...we weren't actually sleeping .. at least siretart and I [03:04] hehe [03:04] I had to wake up at 4 AM that day lol [03:04] ok [03:04] hey ajmitch [03:05] hello [03:05] grr...I have a 4AM wakeup tomorrow morning :( [03:05] <\sh> Kyral: we didn't sleep for more then 27 hours...I have pictures where I went out with ogra and riddell, and I was looking very strange, like on drugs [03:05] lol [03:06] <\sh> but it was helloween ... so I wasn't alone [03:06] \sh: that was an interesting time... === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.153.78] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] <\sh> ajmitch: you missed ogra, riddell, koke and I going out for a beer in an irish pub..you know...very strange situation [03:08] \sh: unfortunate that I missed that :) [03:09] though the evening going to hub's place was fun as well [03:09] <\sh> http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/v/ubz/20051029/P1000067.JPG.html [03:10] <\sh> http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/v/ubz/20051029/P1000069.JPG.html [03:10] you look almost drunk.. [03:10] <\sh> I wasn't just tired [03:10] <\sh> it was the arrival day [03:10] <\sh> aeh [03:10] <\sh> I was just tired [03:10] long flight will do that to you :) [03:11] I have this in control, Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk1.2 yet I still get those errors... http://pastebin.ca/64639 [03:11] <\sh> ryanakca: it needs libgtk2.0-dev [03:12] <\sh> http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/v/ubz/20051031/P1000095.JPG.html a very nice picture btw [03:12]