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libdmbhey, any of you know how to fix this:12:00
libdmbperl: warning: Setting locale failed.12:00
libdmbperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:12:00
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FreqDoes anyone know how to solve my issue?12:01
crimsun_libdmb: install a language pack.12:01
orangednickrud, if i comment out everything except the 24 1280x1024 how do i set the refresh on that line?12:01
LoneShadowhow do I find out where my xfonts-base is installed ? my /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 dosnt have the fonts12:02
reconciliationquestion if I wanted to install Java using a self-extracting file What install directory would I point that self extractor to?12:02
Bassettswhat would the linux equiv of ipconfig /renew and /release be?12:02
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Flannel!tell reconciliation about java12:02
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Angel_DexI want my badger back TT_TT12:02
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CokeNCodeoh man, the questions are coming fast and furious12:02
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nickrudoranged, for this simple test, the line should read simply Modes "1280x1024/60"12:02
drangeplease let me know if anyone can help me with ipw220012:02
crimsun_LoneShadow: see /usr/share/X11/fonts/12:02
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sorcreHello, where can I find a tutorial for isntalling Nvidia drivers on ubuntu 6.0612:02
Angel_Dexdid i really need to update to dapper?12:03
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LoneShadowaah thanks a lot crimsun_ :)12:03
crimsun_Bassetts: ifdown $iface && ifup $iface12:03
CokeNCodeAngel_Dex, nope, and if you're like me, ur probably wishing you didn't12:03
Bassettswow12:03
Angel_DexCokeNCode its dumbed down so much TT_TT12:03
Bassettsso that releases and renews crimsum_12:03
FreqSorcre> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13926412:03
nickrudoranged, to help you figure out how long you want to follow this, I've helped 2 people set up lcds, this worked for one.12:03
iloveyhwhhow do i get to wine after installing it through the synaptic package manager?12:03
reconciliationI just want to know what directory do .debs install java to?12:03
sorcreFreq: Thanks12:03
Freqnp12:03
libdmbcrimsun_: wow, i feel like the stupidest person ever :D12:04
xonicapplications iloveyhwh?12:04
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nickrudreconciliation, it'll depend on the deb.12:04
iloveyhwhi tried  i cant find it12:04
Angel_Dexdont you have to have universe on to get wine12:04
xonicjust type it in in terminal12:04
orangednickrud, i'll logout and try.. i've added a new subsection with that rez/refresh.12:04
orangedhold up12:04
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xonicwine <path to file> iloveyhwh12:05
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iloveyhwhwhats universe?12:05
Ron_ohow easy/hard is it to set up a network with crossover cables in linux? Or even using a hub?12:05
nickrud!components12:05
ubotuThe rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components12:05
Ron_oor ubuntu, rather.12:05
reconciliationnickrud: I am trying to install Jre-1.6 rc and dont know where java should be unpackaged.12:05
thoreauputic!universe12:05
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.12:05
nickrudiloveyhwh, see ubotu just above12:05
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ijeffxAnyone know how i can open .rar files with ubuntu?12:05
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drangeijeffx: unrar e filename.rar12:05
thoreauputicijeffx: unrar-nonfree12:05
Angel_DexBe honest is it needed to update versions?12:05
Tobberothijeffx: Check compression in the ubuntu wiki12:05
Ron_oijeffx, there's a free and non-free rar archiver in synaptic.12:05
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ijeffxthx everyone ^_^12:06
drangeijeffx: unrar12:06
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nickrudreconciliation, I only use java-package or packaged debs, some people try docomenting the other ways  on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java12:06
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iloveyhwhthanks ubotu12:06
orangednickrud, i'm running at 1280x1024@60 now.. ;)12:06
thoreauputic!javadebs12:06
ubotuIn Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse12:06
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Tobberothoranged, it worked? How did you do it?12:06
thoreauputic!botsnack12:07
ubotu:)12:07
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nysosymi have a problem with edgy eft, totem crahs at every start?!12:07
thoreauputic!goo'boy12:07
ubotuAw, thanks dad!12:07
thoreauputic:)12:07
nickrudoranged, cool. Ok, now try gnome12:07
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eyequeuenysosym, /join #ubuntu+112:07
samulinysosym: aren't you supposed to have problems with edgy? :D12:07
eyequeue!edgy12:08
ubotusomebody said edgy was Ubuntu 6.10 DEVELOPMENT, the "Edgy Eft" release. Discussions about and support for edgy take place in #ubuntu+112:08
tgaheh, edgy.. I can't even get Dapper to work12:08
orangednickrud, changing the xorg.conf effects gnome and gdm.. ;)12:08
amortvigilhow can i switch? from desktop i have gnome and kubuntu installed12:08
Angel_DexI want 5.10 back NOW  TT_TT12:08
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nysosymubotu: okay *lalala*12:08
crimsun_Angel_Dex: then get it back.12:08
ubotunysosym: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:08
orangednickrud, theres no changing one without the other12:08
samuliamortvigil: by logging out and logging into what you want.12:08
CokeNCodeAngel_Dex, lol yeh, i'm thinking about doing a reinstall12:08
thoreauputicamortvigil: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:08
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[LiFE] hi12:09
Angel_Dexcrimsun_  DO i need to update versions or are all versions suported in updates or what is the deal? Cuz if i need to continueusly update versions then fuck im going back to Windows12:09
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CokeNCode6.06 busted my tvtuner :/12:09
rmchi ... i have a problem with installing Dapper. I've got a Lombard g3 powerbook approx 300Mb ram, 40Gb HDD. Tried installing kubuntu (live and alternate) & ubuntu dapper.  With the live I get variously ... the kde desktop which crashes when i try to install, squashfs corrupted when I dp a check, or a stream of hdc ... errors. The behaviour can vary. If I put in an OS X panther disk and re-format/partition the drive I seem to sometimes get f12:09
crimsun_Angel_Dex: there are three currently supported stable versions, 5.04 (Hoary), 5.10 (Breezy), and 6.06 LTS (Dapper)12:09
[LiFE] need help with setting up the display drivers and monitor resolution, can anyone please please help?12:09
nickrudoranged, at one time, the resolution tool for gnome was independant of what was in xorg.conf. Recently it seems not to be, but I am conservative12:09
Angel_Dexcrimsun_ how long do you think 5.10 would be supported?12:09
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stevejesushi huys12:10
stevejesusguys*12:10
crimsun_Angel_Dex: October 2005 + 18 months12:10
dooglusAngel_Dex: until 7.0412:10
stevejesuslooking for a way to make a program part of a *group*12:10
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rmci was wondering if the old powerbooks are problems ... people seems to have installed on them before.12:10
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avisstevejesus ?  chmod for files12:10
orangednickrud, i think its a bug with the resolution tool.. if the xorg.conf defines a range of refresh rates i would think the resolution tool would display more than one refresh12:11
avischmod for directories12:11
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TobberothYeah, the GNOME tool doesn't work.12:11
dooglusavis: chmod doesn't change groups.  are you thinking of chgrp?12:11
avischown for directories !12:11
avisooops12:11
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avisnope i made a typo12:11
Angel_DexMeh I really would like 5.10 back but im wondering how many people in here honestly dont like 6.01?12:11
avisi have issues with it12:11
OTanyone knows a utility  for scanning my partition for bad clusters ?12:11
stevejesusavis, i understand how to change basic permissions of a file or directory with chmod, but not add to a group12:11
crimsun_Angel_Dex: every release has "issues". Pick one or several.12:12
avisi honestly have some issues with things like xubuntu and ubuntu probably because they are unresolveable.12:12
dooglusstevejesus: you can use 'addgroup' to add a new group to the system12:12
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eyequeuestevejesus, man chgrp12:12
humancould somebody give me the directory of the sources.lst12:12
Angel_Dexcrimsun_ i dont care about issues tho i care about stuff like they dumbed down the GUI and menus abit12:12
orangedTobberoth, i commented out all the display subsections in xorg and created a new 24bit depth @ 1280x1024/6012:12
nickrudoranged, actually the res tool used to show me res's that I didn't have in the xorg.conf. I stopped using the res tool much after that12:12
twystedanyone have luck using ntfs read/write support in dapper?12:12
dooglusstevejesus: and 'chgrp' to change the group of a file or directory12:12
spikebhuman: /etc/apt12:12
stevejesusdooglus, the group already exists12:12
nickrudbrb12:12
avisbut i wouldn't run another os unless it was to learn bash linux only12:12
humanthank you12:12
OTanyone knows a utility  for scanning my partition for bad clusters ?12:12
avisterminal12:12
crimsun_Angel_Dex: if that's your biggest thorn, you can use alacarte to "reenable" them.12:12
avisntfs write is not stable dont even think about it12:13
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palomerhello12:13
avisfat32.12:13
stevejesusdooglus, thank you12:13
orangednickrud, it worked fine in ubuntu 5.10. ;) shame that its always one step back with a new version of gnome12:13
h3sp4wnstevejesus: you can just do chmod user:group 755 file also12:13
dooglusstevejesus: "sudo adduser <user> <group>" will add <user> to <group>12:13
palomerhow do you convert ps to an image?12:13
stevejesusdooglus, how do i look at all of the already created groups that exist?12:13
avisoranged, do you feel that is the feeling of the general community ?12:13
avisi'm picky.12:13
avisheh12:13
aviswell i'm not upset or anything.12:13
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orangedavis, its my opinion. :)12:13
dooglusstevejesus: user-admin will show you12:13
avisokies12:13
stevejesusdooglus12:13
dooglusstevejesus: or look at /etc/group12:13
avisxubuntu wouldn't install on my high end tower.12:14
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orangedavis, every distro has new bugs with a new release12:14
avisthat broke my heart12:14
Angel_Dexcrimsun_ so i can really keep the old look and feel and be on version 6.01 ?12:14
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avisyes i know but i ran mandrake before mandriva12:14
twystedavis what about it wont install12:14
FlannelAngel_Dex: there is no 6.01, you mean 6.06?12:14
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avisand it was pretty darned awesome for its time12:14
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orangednickrud, thanks for all your help12:14
Angel_DexFlannel when i updated it said 6.01 LTS12:14
crimsun_Angel_Dex: not by default, but you can revert to them, yes.12:14
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dooglusAngel_Dex: 6.06 LTS I think you'll find12:14
stevejesusdooglus, are there any gui tools?  user-admin seems to not exist of me in mine or roots path12:14
crimsun_Angel_Dex: (you probably mean 6.06 LTS)12:14
OTanyone knows a utility  for scanning my partition for bad clusters ?12:15
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avisit has a bug.  it halts.  it doesn't use dhcp to send error report and the error report is too long to write down.12:15
dooglusstevejesus: users-admin is a gui tool - I mistyped it just now12:15
avisi noted my system specs to developers. on the forums.12:15
stevejesusdooglus, thank you12:15
twystedavis> thats a network issue not xubuntu12:15
avisno it isn't12:15
avisit doesn't try to connect to dhcp to send a bug report12:15
avisit wants you to write it down12:15
crimsun_avis: hint: many of us are more easily reachable via e-mail, not the forums.12:16
twysteduh ok...12:16
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avismailing list ?12:16
avisi'd rather use forums12:16
eyequeuebadblocks (8)        - search a device for bad blocks12:16
crimsun_avis: file a bug on LP, that's the best way to get our attention. Mailing ubuntu-devel simply decreases the signal to noise ratio and makes us less productive.12:16
aviswell perhaps mailing list is the way to go.12:16
Flannelavis: devs don't necessarily read the forums12:16
aviswell i was discrete.12:16
Flannelavis: launchpad is the way to go ;)12:17
stevejesusdooglus, i have a group called "audio", for low-latency access to the sound-card, but it doesn't seem to appear in users-admin12:17
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[LiFE] here goes nothing12:17
[LiFE] sighhhh12:17
Angel_DexCokeNCode, Gonna reinstall 5.10??12:17
avisi am happy with my gnome though12:17
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avisthe only thing i cannot do is use Muine12:17
twystedanyone have luck using ntfs read/write support in dapper?12:18
Flanneltwysted: not write12:18
Stormx2I hate printing in ubuntu...12:18
avisi have installed every 0.8 and 0.10 gstreamer plugin and win32 codecs.  its a no go.12:18
Flanneltwysted: no one has stable write support, as captive isn't stable.  Reading is though.12:18
[LiFE] I hope this works...12:18
avisntfs write is not stable at all.  i would not think about it.12:18
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avisfat32 all the way if you need security use ext312:19
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twystedFlannel, yes i need to delete some files off of a hugh ntfs drive so i can see what else i have to copy since i have to spread it out on several systems12:19
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CokeNCodeAngel_Dex, yeh, i'm seriously considering it ... nad then install 6.06 on this other computer here that has on redhat 9.0 currently12:19
Flanneltwysted: deleting is writing, and as such, not stable.12:19
orangedi use a small fat partition for windows so i can transfer files between the oses12:19
twystedCokeNCode why downgrade?12:19
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Angel_DexCokeNCode I really really really like 5.10 every little thing about it well the icon set in 6.06 is better but the rest sucks12:20
Stormx2Yay at last! printer working without a gayass turboprint logo >_<12:20
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eyequeue!language12:20
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.12:20
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avisi have a windows tower next to me that is my child.  its quite nice and effecitve.  though i want to do advanced tasks and use a different environment and a challenge.12:20
faroushow to change the default appl that opens rm, ram files from totem to realplay. doing it in nautilus does not work for some reason. it only change it for one specific file12:20
Stormx2OH NO!!!12:21
Stormx2Spoke too soon12:21
Stormx2:(12:21
Stormx2Whyyyy12:21
Stormx2nooo12:21
Stormx2:(12:21
Angel_Dextwysted both of us really dont line the feel and loko of 6.06 i personally think its Dumbed down alot12:21
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Stormx2:(:(12:21
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twystedAngel_Dex> i do agree on the dumbed down part but it looks alot better i hated the brown everything12:21
avisi'd do what i could to further its development12:21
orangedAngel_Dex, theres always the terminal. ;)12:21
avisi would not run anything else12:21
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Angel_Dextwysted ummmm you DO know there are color themes? no?12:22
avisunless it was for learning purposes12:22
rmchas anyone installed dapper on a lombard powerbook?12:22
twystedAngel_Dex> yes i do know but default install only had 1 or 2 choices and they blew =)12:22
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Stormx2Oh how I hate you turboprint :(12:22
Angel_Dextwysted Um my defualt installed had like 10 and they are good12:22
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iloveyhwhi still cant find wine after installing it with symantic packet manager12:22
avisthey have a supportedlaptops page but i lost the bookmark many installed ago.12:22
avisit seems notebook support is weak.12:22
iloveyhwhi enabled universe and multiverse12:22
twystedAngel_Dex> well anyways, id rather have dapper then breezy even though its dumbed down12:23
spikeblinux notebook support in general is weak12:23
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kibethI was just wondering if someone would be able to explain to me how I would go about installing PHP and being able to run the scripts from my computer.  In particular, the GD module.12:23
ejkhmm my .Xdefaults file isn't being read properly in Dapper12:23
crimsun_!info wine dapper12:23
ubotuwine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 8578 kB, Installed size: 40460 kB12:23
Flannelhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport avis12:23
crimsun_iloveyhwh: see above.12:23
avisiloveyhwh, you might have missed a repo or not enable backports and do a apt-get update.12:23
twystedkibeth> sudo apt-get install php4-cli php4-gd12:23
eyequeueiloveyhwh, dpkg -L wine12:23
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avisFlannel, thank you i can't keep track of urls because of unfortunate things like XGL and such :)12:24
miguelsr!automatix12:24
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.12:24
twystediloveyhwh> wine is run from the command line there is no shortcut for it12:24
Stormx2Does anyone know anything about turboprint?12:24
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kibethtwysted> I've used Synaptic Package Manager to get the packages, php5-gd, php5, and the others, but will that allow me to do everything necessary?12:24
Angel_DexUghness12:24
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Flannelavis: eh?  what does XGL have to do with it?  oh, you didn't install it unobtrusively and had to reinstall? ;)12:24
roo_Stormx2, I used to use it before Canon released decent drivers for my i55012:24
avisi broke it :)12:24
Angel_DexWhy did they dumb it down? ifeel liek they are going the WIndows rute12:24
twystedkibeth> that would unless you require a webserver then install apache2 as well =)12:24
avisbut hey i did better than alot of people getting it up and running :)12:24
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Stormx2roo_: Oh I can use canon drivers? In linux!12:24
Stormx2roo_: please show me how/where!!12:24
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kibethThanks. :)12:24
roo_Stormx2, which printer do you have?12:25
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Stormx2roo_: Canon S40012:25
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Meek-question: i just installed azureus, and i need a port opened to it, i opened it on my router and pointed it to my ubuntu box ip address (static) but it still seems like its closed... is there a port-allow list or something I need to edit in ubuntu?12:25
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kibethHow would I configure it, and are there ways to PM or something similar, never was an IRC buff. :P12:25
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avisdo you use a firewall in ubuntu Meek- ?12:25
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Meek-dont think so, this is a fresh install, and im a noob so I havent set it up12:26
avisfirestarter is a popular firewall though a router is sufficient a NAT router at least.12:26
Angel_Dexavis the fire wall is built into the kernal no playing with it needed12:26
avisoh ?12:26
avisfirestarter ?12:26
avisok..12:26
roo_Stormx2, i dont think s400 is supported :/12:26
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Flannelavis: yeah, firestarter is a frontend to the built in kernel firewalling12:26
Meek-hmm azureus still thinks its firewalled then, and im not getting any upload bandwidth12:26
aviscool12:27
avisthats nice security.12:27
roo_Stormx2, I found the driver packages for i550 here: ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/12:27
Meek-and i double checked the linksys for ip and port12:27
FlannelMeek-: you behind a NAT/router?12:27
twystedkibeth you should be able to PM me12:27
raptros-v76avis: yes.12:27
Meek-Flannel: yes, but I've configured it correctly12:27
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FlannelMeek-: sure you portforwarded to the right IP?12:27
raptros-v76avis: in fact the built in firewall allows for strange things to be made.12:27
DrNickRivierahow can i specify what version of gcc to use when running make for a certain program?12:27
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roo_Stormx2, can you get it working using cups drivers?12:27
kibethYeah12:27
lightdifferencehow do I update to dapper?12:28
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raptros-v76lightdifference: sudo apt-get dist upgrade12:28
avisraptros-v76, hmm like non-free restricted modules or something ?  i dont know anything about the dark side of linux.12:28
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Stormx2roo_: I think if I remember correctly it looks horrible.12:28
avisexcept for the big things you hear about12:28
Stormx2roo_: but let me see...12:28
raptros-v76wait. sudo apt0get dist-upgrade12:28
xxozxxwhats a good sourcelist updater?12:28
gnomefreaklightdifference: gksudo "update-manager -d"12:28
lightdifferencety.12:28
raptros-v76gnomefreak: no. the -d is not needed12:28
Flannelgnomefreak: he shouldn't need the d12:28
spikeb-d will update to edgy12:28
eyequeue!upgrade12:28
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)12:28
Flannelgnomefreak: unless you want him to go to edgy, -d was only for when dapper was beta12:29
manishsamuli: how to install pluggins to play .wmv file?12:29
gnomefreaklightdifference: gksudo "update-manager"12:29
gilligan_can someone tell me how I can get /usr/linux/include/modversions.h ?12:29
gnomefreaklol12:29
gnomefreakFlannel: that wont update you to edgy12:29
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gnomefreaki tried already12:29
manishsamuli: how to install pluggins to play .wmv file?12:29
gnomefreaknot yet alteast12:29
Flannelgnomefreak: -d will, yes.  Or, are the repositories not open yet? ah12:29
spikeboh12:29
raptros-v76avis: for instance, you can do NAT in a network with iptables12:29
spikeblol12:29
sergxhow can I get Ubuntu  (5.04) to update from CD only (slow internet connection here)12:29
Meek-Flannel: yep, just checked it again, i have the port assignment set right - I changed my ip address in ubuntu to static just recently though, do i have to reboot or anything for that to take effect?12:29
spikebwell, it should, but not just yet :)12:29
manishcan any one tell me how to install pluggins to play .wmv file?12:29
gnomefreakFlannel: it didnt as of lastnight12:29
gilligan_manish, get w32codecs and totem-xine12:29
xxozxxwhats a good sourcelist updater? anyone?12:29
manishcan any one tell me how to install pluggins to play .wmv file? plz12:29
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iloveyhwhthanks a ton guys! wine is working now!12:29
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Stormx2Oh god12:30
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avisi learned a very important lesson today.  using a usb laptop external drive and transfering alot of data never use nautilus to xfer the files use cp and mv or if fat32 just use windows if thats easier.  you can see visual structure better.12:30
manishgilligan_ : where i will get w32codecs12:30
eyequeuesergx, edit /etc/pt/sources.list and only uncomment the cd ... then sudo apt-get update12:30
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Stormx2For some reason the cups drivers are REALLY GOOD12:30
FlannelMeek-: you'll need to reboot something... I don't know what though.  the whole computer would do it though ;)12:30
Stormx2I hate life ;_;12:30
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avismanish, you need to read the wiki on resricted formats12:30
Flannel!tell gilligan_ about w32codecs12:30
gerypa le" bw fracaes12:30
twystedStormx2, would you like a tissue?12:30
Meek-yeah ok lemme try that brb12:30
Stormx2Why do you mock me lord12:30
Stormx2XD12:30
gilligan_manish, enable universe+multiverse then run apt-get install w32codecs12:30
twystedbrb..12:31
xxozxxsorry guys i got dissconnected12:31
gnomefreakgery: #ubuntu-fr12:31
Ron_oyou can add a repository for your w32 codecs and it will upgrade automatically.12:31
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xxozxxneed an auto source list updater12:31
gilligan_Flannel, I am not the one who needs to know that :)12:31
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gnomefreakubotu tell xxozxx about sources12:31
Ademanis openAL not in the repositories?12:31
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xxozxxthanks12:31
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samuli!tell manish about w32codecs12:31
manishgilligan_ : now i last question how to enable universe+multiverse?12:32
NickGarvey!repos12:32
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.12:32
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manishgilligan_ : now i last question how to enable universe+multiverse?12:32
DAC1138!tell DAC1138 about wifi12:32
sn00pwhat plugin do I use so I can view video streams in firefox ?12:32
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xonicdoes anyone know hte controls for sompiz for gnome?12:33
eyequeue!tell manish about repos12:33
gnomefreaksn00p: what type of video?12:33
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DAC1138!tell DAC1138 about wap12:33
sn00pgnomefreak streaming12:33
nickrudsn00p, totem-xine-firefox-plugins12:33
gnomefreaksn00p: not much help (what format)12:33
geryhola soy geraldynee12:33
DerikOlssonI installed all of the video codecs (windows, avi, etc.), but when I play them in a player, the white balance is way off (as if the exposure on the videos wasn't correct... except for the fact that I've watched these clips before and they're fine)... any way to fix that?12:33
gnomefreakgery: #ubuntu-fr please12:33
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sn00pnickrud: already have tha tinstalled doesn't seem to work12:33
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Ademanis openAL in the repositories?12:33
NickGarvey!es12:34
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:34
twystedAdeman what do you need openAL for?12:34
NickGarveygnomefreak: thats spanish12:34
NickGarveynecesito ir ;)12:34
NickGarveybye12:34
gerywi12:34
Ademantwysted: my program uses it12:34
gerysi12:34
ArthurBrazilcab the "Rescue a broken system" option fix a lost password?12:34
gnomefreakNickGarvey: he spoke in french before12:34
geryyes12:34
gnomefreakgery: #ubuntu-es12:34
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NickGarveyhasta luego gery12:34
nickrudsn00p, alos install libxine-extracodecs, and !w32codecs12:34
twystedAdeman> hehe i dont think openAL is in the repos12:34
manishgilligan_ : hey its says that Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:34
roo_Stormx2, isn't it a *good* thing that the cups drivers are good?12:34
gilligan_manish, ah right sorry..12:35
richiehello!12:35
twysted!tell manish about restricted12:35
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Ademantwysted: damn, well i gotta decide what to use for sound then, if openAL is gonna be a pain in the ass for end users to use12:35
wubrgamerguys, i'm posing as a n00b in fedora, i LOVE ubuntu channel ! thank you guys12:35
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wubrgamer* #fedora12:35
gilligan_manish, deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main12:35
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spikebAdeman: well, you can always statically compile it in12:35
gilligan_manish, you can add that and get w32codecs from there12:35
gnomefreakdont use debian repos12:35
twystedAdeman> if you wrote the program see if you can do OSS instead maybe?12:35
richieI have a little question!12:35
twystedAdeman> or alsa12:36
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gilligan_gnomefreak, as long as he only fetches the w32codecs package that is no big deal12:36
Mystahello, is there documentation on howto set a STATIC IP via CLI????12:36
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Ademantwysted: well i'm not writing strictly for linux12:36
gnomefreakubotu tell manish -about restricted12:36
nickruddebian !=u ubuntu, again12:36
gnomefreakgilligan_: use wget12:36
Stormx2roo_: Not when I've been playing around with TurboPrint and firefox for 45 minutes and have lots of coursework to do for tomorow.12:36
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roo_Stormx2, lol, but now you can use the cups drivers? :p12:36
richieanybody know a USB- Bluetoooth-dongle that works "out of the box" on ubuntu?12:36
gnomefreakgilligan_: dont recommend to use debian repos please12:36
twystedMysta> man interfaces12:36
richies12:36
nickrudMysta, yes, man interfaces12:36
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gilligan_gnomefreak, ok12:36
Mystatwysted, thx i will take a look12:37
nysosymrichie MSI Dongle12:37
ydnardoes anyone know how to disable document/directory hsitory?12:37
DerikOlssonanybody know a fix for videos displaying crazy white balance?12:37
Stormx2roo_: Apparently o.O12:37
seliniumgilligan_: He can get it from multiverse...12:37
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erikneudorferanybody know why a second dapper wouldnt launch because of a second harddrive?12:37
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gilligan_selinium, sure w32codecs is in multiverse? I think not12:37
richienysosym: thanks12:37
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gnomefreakselinium: w32codecs will not be in multiverse12:38
nickrud!w32codecs12:38
ubotua compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439912:38
avisyou have to wget it12:38
_Mr_Denix_hello :)12:38
Ademantwysted: there isnt an OSS implementation for windows is there?12:38
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KanRiNiNquestion:  is it a good idea to enable the openoffice quickstarter AND enable prelink?12:38
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seliniumgilligan_: gnomefreak sorry they are in seveas' repos www.seveas.ubuntulinux.nl12:38
avisMuine is a monster.12:38
DerikOlssonw32codecs link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68524fab57e2285050069d6845f95415f8ec840412:38
twystedAdeman> not sure12:38
gnomefreakif you read the restricted formats site it gives you the 2 commands to run12:38
manishgilligan_ : is that pluggin available for AMD64 user b'coz i m using AMD64 version of ubunut12:38
gnomefreakselinium: yep12:38
eyequeueFilename: pool/dapper-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb12:38
JinkgunsCan anyone tell me why the default Ubuntu dvd-rom icon which is a cd with DVD-ROM imposed over the bottom right is so badly flawed? The cd/dvd image is slightly off to the left. This is my last major concern before I use ubuntu as my primary OS.12:38
JinkgunsXP12:38
macsimI found there is a bug with gaphor on dapper, anybody got a fix ?12:38
aviscannot get sound to work in Muine12:38
avisugh !12:38
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richieon ebay are many cheap bluetoooth dongles but I think they would not run! Am I right?12:39
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_Mr_Denix_neutrinomass nice to see you mate !12:39
twystedrichie you are right12:39
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manishgilligan_ : hey its says that Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:39
sfvgHello...can anyone tell me if there is a way to upgrade from 5.10  to 6.06 from inside 5.10?12:39
asdamHello12:39
twystedJinkguns, not to be a prick but if one little icon is holding you back then, WOW12:39
DerikOlssonmanish: get it from the directions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68524fab57e2285050069d6845f95415f8ec840412:39
twysted!tell sfvg upgrade12:39
lufisAre there any advantages of compiling apps yourself rather than using binaries?12:39
] GoldenDragonhmm, whats a good free-opensource WYSIWYG web page editor (i don't care if its compatible with windows, it may even be preffered)12:40
twysted!upgrade12:40
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)12:40
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eyequeue!tell sfvg about upgrade12:40
jbroome] GoldenDragon: check out nvu or bluefish12:40
] GoldenDragonk, thanks12:40
robertj] GoldenDragon: no, nvu is as close as you will get12:40
wubrgamerman, the #fedora crowd is a funny bunch, they don't even know the difference between debian and ubuntu, they think ubuntu has a SLOW release cycle, this is soo funny (yes i'm bored as piss)12:40
avislufis the packages are catered to the operating system and upgradable through apt-get update.12:40
nickrudmanish, go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-68524fab57e2285050069d6845f95415f8ec840412:40
sfvgthank you12:40
Jinkgunstwysted, I was kidding. XP12:40
Matthewv] GoldenDragon, try nvu, bluefish is a better editor imho but does not have wysiwyg12:40
JinkgunsBut how could that have been overlooked? XP12:40
twystedJinkguns, =p12:40
avisnvu is very good12:40
lufisavis: Yeah, but are there advantages to compiling yourself?12:41
nickrudwubrgamer, bored is good, no issues :)12:41
twystedJinkguns, who knows just little things get by all of us =)12:41
JinkgunsI mean, I've found no other OS to well polished and capable. :D12:41
avislufis, customization.12:41
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wubrgameryep12:41
lufisavis: What about performance issues?12:41
JinkgunsWhy, dear god why, is the dvd icon not centered. I demand a patch! :D12:41
DerikOlssonany reason why my movies are playing with crazy white balance?12:41
lufisDerikOlsson: On Totem?12:41
nysosymi will go to bed now, gn8 guys12:41
avislufis, just the obvious for example you can compile for your architechture12:41
DerikOlssontotem/mplayer/vlc/etc.12:41
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KanRiNiNanyone know if prelinking AND using the openoffice quickstart is a bad idea?12:42
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avisi have to warn you i have typo syndrome today.  my hands are fatigued.12:42
] GoldenDragondoes bluefish work for Windows?12:42
lufisavis: Ah, ok. I thought that maybe the configure script ran on your own machine would make the binary faster :P12:42
DAC1138does anyone have a definitive fix for this crappy wifi epidemic in the new ubuntu release?12:42
nickrud] GoldenDragon, the text it leaves is universal (just add the right line endings)12:42
DerikOlssondac1138: trial and error12:42
DAC1138i've spent the past 5 hours forum browsing. nothing is certain with this problem12:43
avisnah the packages are most likely better though i was told the CVS for wpa_supplicant was needed instead of the .deb so your mileage may vary.12:43
asdamI've just installes Ubuntu 6.06 and I'd like to set the Monitor refresh rate to 100HZ but only the 85 HZ option available what shall I do ?12:43
DAC1138DerikOlsson, i kind of thought release candidates were supposed to filter this sort of stuff out12:43
DerikOlssonI spent all day yesterday and all night the night before getting mine to work - I'm not even sure what got it to work, it just started to12:43
] GoldenDragonhuh? I mean can you run bluefish on Windows, not if the HTML...12:43
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manishnickrud: but its i386 package will it work on my AMD64?12:43
Matthewv] GoldenDragon, I'm pretty sure yes.. http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/12:43
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] GoldenDragonk, thanks12:43
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DerikOlssonI'm thinking ndiswrapper is what made mine work, dac113812:44
DAC1138well, i quit using linux because i was sick and tired with fussing with config file altering and fixing things once they broke, so ive been using windows for the past 4 months. i gave ubuntu another shot and it's just been a horrible experience12:44
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Matthewv] GoldenDragon, sry, maybe not on windows12:44
manishnickrud: but its i386 package will it work on my AMD64?12:44
nickrudmanish, no, not easily. No one really supports the 64-bit stuff on the desktop well yet12:44
DAC1138how could a problem so big slip out like it has?12:45
] GoldenDragonheh.12:45
DAC1138wifi is an important feature they were updating, how can they not notice?12:45
DerikOlssonno clue...12:45
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manishnickrud: then wat i have to do? from where i can get the pluggins?12:45
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Matthewv] GoldenDragon, unless you are a cygwin guru, it doesn't have a windows port, as far as i can see12:45
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xonicanyone know where i can get the codees for compiz?12:45
xonicyou know to do all the crazy stuff12:46
nickrudmanish, generally, the i386 distro is better for most users. Right now, the 64 bit is vidiots and developers12:46
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manishnickrud: means i cant get that.... :(12:46
Skenvoyok, i wanna get dual screens working with _SEPARATE_ x-servers - I have an x-server on monitor2 but no XGL. How do i edit /etc/gdm/conf to make it work with XGL on the secondary12:46
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nickrudmanish, sure, your 64bit processor will run the i386 distro just fine12:46
troytroyhi i need help setting up my wireless connection12:46
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Skenvoyi already have the xorg.conf set up properly12:47
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Matthewv!tell troytroy about wireless12:47
manishnickrud: ok let me try...12:47
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Alfred__good night guys! See you tomorrow! :)12:47
eXistenZDo I need to setup any special settings for ssh?12:47
eXistenZI installed the server12:47
Meek-woot got the azureus thing working.  it was actually the port number... for some reason the default wasnt working, so I changed it to something else and poof12:47
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MatthewveXistenZ, just run the server, and connect with 'ssh <user>@<server>'12:48
nickrudMeek-, make a note: most isps block the obvious sharing ports.12:48
kandinskihow can I get dapper to re-run the hardware detection routines?12:48
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xonicanyone know where i can get the codees for compiz?12:48
Meek-but thats not the normal one for windows, you'd think they'd block that port12:48
Skenvoylol, gaim makes funky colours of people's names12:48
kandinskibasically, I have a hoary install updated to dapper, but I amm missing out on a lot of automagical configuration12:49
Skenvoyanyone wanna help with dual XGL?12:49
popeySkenvoy: what video card out of interest?12:49
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kandinskiSkenvoy: what card do you have?12:49
nickrudxgl = /dev/null ;)12:49
MatthewvSkenvoy, what do you mean by separate xservers?12:49
twystedSkenvoy> goooood luck12:49
MatthewvSkenvoy, for xgl try #ubuntu-xgl12:49
kandinskiSkenvoy: the people at #nvidia and #ati are really helpful too12:49
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kandinskijoin ubuntu-tablet12:50
kandinskihehe12:50
kandinskijoin ubuntu-tablet12:50
eXistenZMatthewv, I did. I'm connected in a lan, can I connect to it using the local ip address?12:50
DerikOlssonit's odd... when I take snapshots of the brightness, it comes out correctly, but when I'm playing the video it doesn't12:50
Meek-question: i have java version 1.4.2 but a torrent tracker site I use requires that my java version is 1.5.x or higher, update manager reports that everything is up to date.. is there a way to update my java to the higher version?12:50
wubrgamerbbl12:50
MatthewveXistenZ, yes, that'll be fine i do it all the teim12:50
kandinskisorry, guys, my / key got stuck12:50
Matthewv*time12:50
nickrudMeek-, you on dapper or breezy?12:50
Meek-dapper12:50
eXistenZMatthewv, I cannot even ping my server =/12:50
eXistenZMatthewv, something is wrong12:50
MatthewveXistenZ, does your server have a static ip?12:51
nickrudMeek-, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin12:51
eXistenZMatthewv, I have its ip12:51
Meek-nickrud: muchas gracias, ill try that12:51
KaManybody can help me and tell me what must do to install ati driver and enable 3d?12:51
MatthewveXistenZ, and you cannot ping it?12:51
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nickrudMeek-, then sudo update-alternatives --config java, and pick sun12:51
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eXistenZMatthewv, yep12:51
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eXistenZMatthewv, it is connected to the lan though12:51
Meek-nickrud: ahhh its because its the FSF-java?12:51
MatthewveXistenZ, does the server have connectivity ie can the server see the rest of the lan?12:52
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nickrudMeek-, 1.4.2 implies blackdown, but it's not 1.512:52
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k31thAnyone running open-xchange ?12:52
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eXistenZMatthewv, I don't know. It is topless12:52
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eXistenZMatthewv, last time I checked it. it worked fine12:52
KaManybody can help me and tell me what must do to install ati driver and enable 3d?12:53
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krazykitubotu: tell kam about ati12:53
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MatthewveXistenZ, that makes it hard to check :)12:53
SurfnKidnot an easy task but i got to link to a wifirouter12:53
eXistenZMatthewv, I did install apt-get install ssh12:53
MatthewveXistenZ, maybe the network has gone down on the server?12:53
hyphenatedwere UP kernels dropped in favour of SMP/UP ones?12:53
Matthewvor on your pc?12:53
KaMkrazykit: I've already tried that12:53
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eXistenZMatthewv, I'm using windows here. But there, a ubuntu server is installed12:53
KaMkrazykit: but dosn't work12:53
krazykitKaM: then figure out what went wrong.  that's the method you use to make it work.12:54
MatthewveXistenZ, what are you using to connect to the server? software?12:54
matt_Can anyone help me here?12:54
eXistenZMatthewv, putty12:54
Meek-nickrud: couldn't find packages sun-java5-bin ?12:54
Meek--s12:54
nickrudMeek-, enable multiverse12:54
nickrud!multiverse12:54
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.12:54
Meek-ty12:54
matt_anyone at all?12:54
nickrudMeek-, do universe while you're at it12:54
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eXistenZMatthewv, Does it usually block pinging12:55
krazykitmatt_: just ask12:55
nickrudmatt ask12:55
JinkgunsI just unplugged my ethernet cord, but wireless it up and running, how do I tell firefox to use the wireless?12:55
KaMkrazykit: after do that and i type fglrxinfo it dosn't corrispond12:55
Matthewvok eXistenZ all sounds fine... i know this may sound really obvious, but are the cables all in right... i assume you have a router, does the server show up as connected on there?12:55
eyequeueJinkguns, firefox will use the default route12:55
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eXistenZMatthewv, yep, that's where I got the ip of the server12:56
eyequeueJinkguns, sudo route12:56
eXistenZMatthewv, I'll try to get a screen and check what's going on12:56
matt_ok well i think nickrud knows my problem but here it is, i still can't access my windows partitioned drives, i can't get into windows no matter what, and i need to get into these through linux, but it has "permission" issues, which is frustrating because its my own computer12:56
krazykitKaM: then maybe fglrxinfo is not in your $PATH.  find the directory it's installed in.  i don't know what it is in ubuntu, though.  try doing `slocate fglrxinfo`.  that should give you the path12:56
eXistenZMatthewv, ssh is port 22?12:56
MatthewveXistenZ, yes12:56
WarboDoes libflash try to overwrite macrodobe flash? Since installing it (and removing it) I have no sound in Flash animations12:56
k31thopen-xchange anyone ?12:57
MatthewveXistenZ, probably what i would do if its possible, someone else may know a better solution but its pretty hard to fix a problem i fyou cant see it12:57
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krazykitmatt_: if it's ntfs, there's no safe way to write to it.  if it's fat32, you can.12:57
eXistenZMatthewv, to install ssh server just to type apt-get install ssh?12:57
MatthewvBassetts, some guy on distrowatch calls it Windows Hasta la Vista :P12:57
WarboBassetts: m$ would never support the Wii. It's a NEW architecture :)12:57
matt_it is ntsf, but i do need to12:57
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MatthewveXistenZ, i think openssh-server12:58
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KaMkrazykit: this is the output: root@notebook-fabrizio:/# fglrxinfo12:58
BassettsMatthewv, so i see lol12:58
KaMdisplay: :0.0  screen: 012:58
KaMOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org12:58
KaMOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect12:58
KaMOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)12:58
nickrudmatt_, by default ubuntu doesn't allow that, to avoid users destroying windows accidentally. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions for some info on enabling it12:58
eXistenZMatthewv, I believe it is installed automatically12:58
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BassettsWarbo too true12:58
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goudkovhi guys, is there a big performance increase when using k7 kernel instead of 386?12:58
libdmbyay, ubuntu on my VPS!!!12:58
WarboAnyone used libflash/gplflash?12:58
eXistenZMatthewv, with ssh12:58
BassettsWarbo, do you go on HBO irc at all?12:58
eXistenZlet me check it12:58
libdmbWarbo: not very good at all12:58
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Mr_MiyagiI have a question about the partitioning tool during setup12:58
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Meek-nickrud: actually i had enabled universe, but not multiverse.. im pretty new to ubuntu (and linux) and I have to say that I like the repository stuff... I like how its separated out like that (even if it did cause me some confusion)12:58
Mr_MiyagiWhen do I choose mount points?12:58
WarboBassetts: Nope (don't get HBO in UK)12:58
eXistenZMatthewv, Can I check it from the server itself?12:58
nzxwhat ports need to be forwarded to allow ekiga to work ?12:59
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eXistenZMatthewv, ssh localhost?12:59
libdmbWarbo: try "Bill O'Reilly (commentator)." Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. 11 Jun 2006, 04:36 UTC. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 11 Jun 2006 <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_O%27Reilly_%28commentator%29&oldid=57986197>.12:59
BassettsWarbo, not that HBO =P nevermind12:59
libdmboops12:59
Bassettsim in the uk too12:59
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libdmbwrong paste12:59
twystedMr_Miyagi> itll choose them for you unless you manually edit the partition table12:59
MatthewveXistenZ, I'll try on my machine12:59
Mr_MiyagiI want to do it manually12:59
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nickrudMeek-, yeah, it's confusing on the surface, but satisfying in depth12:59
Warbolibdmb: Well I want to see if my flash creations work in it (they do perfectly) but now normal Flash has no sound12:59
Mr_MiyagiI have created all the partitions but can't choose mount points12:59
eXistenZMatthewv, I'll talk to you from the server brb12:59
libdmbWarbo: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/12:59
matt_alright, i guess i have to try to get into windows12:59
BassettsWarbo: the fact your from uk means your not the person i thought you might be12:59
Mr_MiyagiIs this set after I press next12:59
twystedMr_Miyagi> dare i ask why, ubuntu does a good job of it for you12:59
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Mr_Miyagitwysted: I have several os on the harddrive01:00
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Warbolibdmb: I have just compiled that again (first did it last week, but since realised that I could compile in MAD support). That doesn't quite play my flash right, but anyway, official Flash doesn't have sound01:00
Mr_Miyagitwysted: several partitions with information that is to be kept01:00
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LjL"several"? wow :)01:00
libdmboh01:00
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twystedMr_Miyagi> as said it can handle that for you, just go through the install and youll come to a step thatll ask if you want to write changes to disk or manually edit partition01:00
kibethUhm,. I just accidentally removed myself from the admin usergroup, could someone help me on how to add myself back to it?01:00
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WarboBassetts: Well I had to register my nick before (bot attack) so there is only one Warbo now :)01:00
twystedkibeth> lol01:00
kibeth:D01:00
Mystais it possible for me to get the same 'look' that i have in my terminal (green text on black) on Gnome via a SSH client?01:01
Mr_MiyagiI've chosen to manually partition my harddrive01:01
Codenuthi everyone01:01
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Flannelkibeth: boot into single user mode/rescue kernel at the grub screen01:01
Matthewvkibeth, from recovery console, you could do usermod -G admin01:01
Matthewvi think thats it01:01
eyequeuekibeth, boot to rescue, adduser kibeth admin01:01
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Matthewvkibeth, sry, usermod -G admin <username>01:01
Mr_Miyagibut can't choose mount points at this stage, is this done in the next step? I just want to make sure before I commit changes to the partition table01:01
Codenuthow do I install to a hard drive without a partion from windows01:01
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nnyok so i have chrooted into my root dir mounted in /mnt/ but grub barfs for no reason (one harddisk laptop)01:01
Mr_MiyagiI'm running the install right now01:02
kibethCould I just do it through the terminal with like sudo groupadd?01:02
MatthewvCodenut, could you clarify that?01:02
nnyand when i reboot i still get win boot loader01:02
miguelsrhey how to install amsn?01:02
LjLCodenut: what do you mean? you have only one, big windows partition, is that what you mean?01:02
kibethBut I don't know the arguments and stuff.01:02
miguelsrsudo apt-get install amsn???01:02
Warbonny: Doing grub-install? Try doing this before you chroot "sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev"01:02
Matthewvkibeth, as you have removed yourself from admin, sudo wont work01:02
LjLmiguelsr: yes01:02
eyequeuekibeth, boot to rescue, "adduser kibeth admin"01:02
CodenutI have windows on my laptop, but the dockijng port cdrom will not boot.01:02
LjLmiguelsr: or sudo aptitude install amsn, or synaptic, or whatever01:02
tanathi just installed the dapper kernel, and now when i boot it hangs at a black screen. in recovery mode it says /dev/hda1 doesn't exist (!)01:02
kibethThanks Matthew01:02
eternaljoycan I upgrade breezy safely from the dapper CD if I get one sent to me?01:02
CodenutSo, I need to install the ubuntu CD onto the hard drive.01:03
nnyWarbo: sounds exaclty like the problem will try thx01:03
twystedkibeth> gotta reboot into the recovery mode to readd yourself01:03
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wizzmatt_ , I've read something about writing on ntfs partition from linux : http://www.ntfs-linux.com/01:03
eternaljoycan I upgrade breezy safely to dapper CD if I get one sent to me?01:03
jshrivergreetings01:03
LjLCodenut: i don't think that's particularly easy. do you have a working floppy drive?01:03
jshriverhow can I get rid or whatever Java vm comes with Ubuntu and install the Sun VM?01:03
jshrivergjc think it is01:03
LjL!javadebs01:03
ubotuIn Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse01:03
CodenutCan I use partition majic to create the partion?01:03
eyequeue!tell eternaljoy about patience01:03
eternaljoyif I dont upgrade to Dapper from breezy, will my system still be secure and safe to use?01:03
JinkgunsUsing the terminal, how do I tell the computer to use eth1 instead of eth0?01:03
eternaljoy!tell eyequeue about self-righteousness01:03
LjLCodenut: i suppose you could, yet you'd still have to find a way to install Ubuntu there01:03
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Warbojshriver: You can uninstall the package for gcj and add Universe and Multiverse repositories. You don't need to remove gcj if you install and run galternatives (as super user)01:04
twystedeternaljoy> youll be fine going from breezy to dapper =)01:04
eternaljoytwysted: if I dont upgrade to Dapper from breezy, will my system still be secure and safe to use?01:04
nnyWarbo it used /boot/grub/device map... whats the juju to tell grub install to use the menu.lst file?01:04
CodenutYea, there is the problem. I guess I would have to mess with the boot process.01:04
twystedeternaljoy> but youd be fine staying with breezy as well01:04
jshriverUbuntu has the Sun VM in Universe? thought you had to get it from Sun01:04
nnyWarbo: er device.map01:04
eternaljoytwysted: will breezy still be upgraded to operate securely?01:04
eternaljoytwysted: ok01:04
LjLeternaljoy: until breezy stops being supported (one year and a half i think it is?), yeah01:04
eternaljoyLjL: ok cool01:04
twystedeternaljoy> yes, but id recommend upgrading for the new features and whatnot01:05
LjLjshriver: in multiverse, not universe01:05
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Warbonny: Not that sure (and here I m writing guides to GRUB. Shame on me :))01:05
jshriverhow do you enable multiverse? only saw Universe in synaptic01:05
LabThug_hmAny CUPS Experts in here?01:05
CodenutI thought ubuntu was indefinite?01:05
eternaljoyLjL: but I ordered the dapper CD today!  when I get it, can I use it to upgrade only and it wont change my settings etc?01:05
LjL!tell jshiver about multiverse01:05
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crimsun_Codenut: um, "indefinite"?01:05
Codenutgotta to to get my cake!!!01:05
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nnyWarbo: heh np... i'll just cp menu.lst to device.map for now01:05
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tanathi just installed the dapper kernel, and now when i boot it hangs at a black screen. in recovery mode it says /dev/hda1 doesn't exist (!)01:05
eternaljoytwysted: what new features does dapper have?01:05
Warbonny: Er... That doesn't sound right to me?01:05
Mr_Miyagitwysted: do you know at what stage I set the mount points, I'm at the manual partitioning stage during the install and I can't seem to choose mount points, is this done in the next stage? Just want to make sure before I press next and change my partition table01:05
JinkgunsUsing the terminal, how do I tell the computer to use eth1 instead of eth0?01:05
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edvinasMD5how to mount windows hard disk, that i could listen mp3?01:06
siriusnovahello01:06
eternaljoytwysted: I ordered the dapper CD today!  when I get it, can I use it to upgrade only and it wont change my settings etc?01:06
LjLeternaljoy: in theory. my experience was that upgrading resulted in a mess. however, i had a few non-standard things installed, such as kde 3.5.2, koffice 1.5...01:06
siriusnovais it possible to merge an empty ext3 partition and an existing ext3 partition into one01:06
Warbo!ntfsmount01:06
ubotuWarbo: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:06
nnyWarbo: yeah i broke it01:06
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Warbo!windowsmount01:06
ubotuWarbo: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:06
Warbodammit, what's the right one?01:06
siriusnovaanyone? is merging ext3 partitions possible?01:06
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LjL!tell edvinasMD5 about ntfs01:06
eternaljoyLjL: so I will have to install Dapper and start from stratch?01:06
twystedeternaljoy> yes, youll be able to upgrade with it01:06
nickrudJinkguns, in general, change all references in /etc/networks/interface of eth0 to eth101:06
LabThug_hmI have a HP Photosmart 8450 that printed just fine in Breezy but no longer works after upgrading to Dapper.  I get no /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp.  Any ideas?01:06
Warbosiriusnova: I would do it in stages, copying as many files across as possible, shriking/expanding then doing it again01:07
LjLeternaljoy: not "will", but "might". breezy is *intended* to be upgraded to dapper. it's just that, on my system, that didn't quite work01:07
twystedeternaljoy> just come back when you have the cd and well give you a hand =)01:07
tanatharg, dapper is breaking everything :/01:07
Warbotanath: Shoot it quick!01:07
nnytanath: what do you mean?01:07
LabThug_hmwhere do you log Dapper bugs?01:07
tanathi can't even boot now01:07
LjLlaunchpad.net01:07
uncleanhey guys, can anyone help me with a problem? My "Take Screenshot" app errors with, "Value for PNG Text chunk CREATOR cannot be converted to ISO-8859-1 encoding"... How come?01:08
Mr_Miyagitanath: what computer are you using01:08
siriusnovaWarbo - one of the partitions is my ubuntu system, the other is a 10GB suse partition which im going to format as ext3, my question is how do i merge THAT partition into the current ubuntu one01:08
Mr_Miyagidell laptop?01:08
cafuegoLabThug_hm: launchpad.net01:08
nickrudLabThug_hm, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs01:08
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nnyWarbo: interestinbg01:08
tanathwell, gnome went kind of wonky. applications menu won't show. then it stopped being able to import pics from my camera, and now that i've upgraded the kernel, it won't boot01:08
nnyWarbo: you might like this01:08
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tanathMr_Miyagi, a 2yo intel01:08
LabThug_hmGracis to all that responded01:09
nnyWarbo: just did a vista beta install (hey it beats using a hacked copy of pro) and vista doesn't install to mbr01:09
Warbosiriusnova: Ah. You can get rid of it completely and expand your Ubuntu one to take up the free space. If it is one a different device altogether then use LVM01:09
krazykitsay, what are the default permissions of a user's home folder?  666?01:09
nnytanath: do you have the old kernel in grub still?>01:09
Subhuman_krazykit, 75501:09
jbirdAngelis there a windows version of evolution?01:09
jbirdAngeland hello01:09
cafuegokrazykit: 755 or 75001:09
Mr_Miyagitanath: can you choose your old kernel in grub?01:09
tanathand there's a zillion bugs apparently01:09
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gnomefreakjbirdAngel: that would be called outlook :(01:09
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tanathnny, when i upgraded, it updated grub01:09
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siriusnovaWarbo - does GPartd do all that?01:09
jbirdAngelgnomefreak: okay thanks01:09
tanathMr_Miyagi, yes01:09
Warbonny: I've heard that when Vista is released it will need encryption in the boot process or something (for "security" reasons) which is a bad thing for dual-boot01:09
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cafuegojbirdAngel: thunderbird runs on most OSes.01:09
tanathnny, sorry, misread. yes01:10
Mr_Miyagitanath: can you boot from your old kernel?01:10
eXistenZhey01:10
nnyWarbo: heh i hope they make a beta crack before then01:10
Warbosiriusnova: It won't do LVM, but it will expand a partition (as long as it isn't mounted)01:10
jbirdAngelcafuego okay thanks, i like and use thunderbird, but looking for something that could integrate with GroupWise01:10
tanathMr_Miyagi, no, it said /dev/hda1 doesn't exist, IIRC01:10
cafuegojbirdAngel: only outlook, afaik :-(01:10
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siriusnovaWarbo - so i should just format the ext3 partition, and then tell Ubuntu to expand the current partition to take over that one?01:11
jbirdAngelcafuego okay i think evolution can, thank you for your help01:11
Mr_Miyagitanath: have you done anything that might have changed your partition table? eg. used partition magic in windows01:11
tanathMr_Miyagi, but it does01:11
tanathMr_Miyagi, nope. i'm on a livecd now, and i can browse it fine01:11
eXistenZmick01:11
sn00pI have installed totem-xine-mozilla-plugins in firefox but streaming still not work how come?01:11
Warbosiriusnova: Yes, if they are on the same drive01:11
nnytanath: hmm maybe i can help... can you give me a "gist" of what crappened?01:11
siriusnovaWarbo - sweet thanks01:11
adamant1988Has anyone else had an issue with their 3d support failing after xserver reboots?01:11
gnomefreaksn00p: it depends what format it is01:11
sn00pgnomefreak: wmv01:11
gnomefreak!wmv01:11
ubotuI guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats01:11
adamant1988I'm using an ATI radeon X600, with the flgrx  drivers.01:12
tanathnny, i've started upgrading from breezy to dapper, trying to avoid upgrading packages with bugs. i upgraded the kernel, and rebooted, and now it hangs at a black screen01:12
siriusnovaalso one last question - suse overwrote my MBr whats the command to install grub back into the mbr01:12
eXistenZgnomefreak: what do I need to install ssh server ? apt-get install ssh only?01:12
Mr_Miyagitanath: check the partitions, guess you can use the installation program, choose manual partitiong01:12
siriusnovathe ubuntu grub that is01:12
Warbosn00p: I know some sites protect their stuff from "lternative" programs (my friend was trying to stream QuickTime from pokerchannel.com)01:12
nnytanath: whatkernel?01:12
siriusnovaright now its the funky suse one01:12
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gnomefreakeXistenZ: openssh-server i think01:12
nnytanath: and what proc?01:12
tanathnny, the dapper one01:12
Flanneltanath: started?01:12
tanathnny, intel01:12
tanathFlannel, yeh, with synaptic01:12
nnytanath: hmm... specifics.. p4 or the like?01:12
Warbosiriusnova: grub-install /dev/device (hda, etc.)01:12
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nnytanath: try this01:13
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siriusnovaWarbo k thx01:13
tanathFlannel, just not all at once, because many packages have bugs01:13
tanathnny, p4, yes01:13
jbirdAngelcafuegouego sorry you were probably talkign about on windows, and ya okay thanks01:13
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Flanneltanath: uh, I'm not really sure that's going to work01:13
tanathFlannel, ?01:13
gnomefreakjbirdAngel: we dont talk about windows in here ;)01:13
boricuathe wireless connection properties is not showing me the signal strenght  any idea01:13
nnytanath: sudo aptitude install linux-68601:14
tanathwell, the old kernel isn't working now either for some reason01:14
nnytanath: curoius as to what kernel got installed01:14
jbirdAngelgnomefreak: not even to help people switch over from it?01:14
Mr_Miyagithere must be someone in here who has installed ubuntu using the manual paritioning tool during setup. Just want to know when to choose mount points. I have edited my paritions, do I choose mount points at the next step? I just want to make sure BEFORE I make changes to the partition table01:14
tanathnny, that is what i upgraded. and i can't do that now because i can't boot at all01:14
Warbognomefreak: My GAIM window has gone off the screen how do I get.... wait a minute, can't talk about windows :)01:14
nnytanath: what about your old kernel?01:14
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gnomefreakjbirdAngel: no need to talk about windows to move people from win to linux01:14
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tanathnny, it's borked too now01:14
nnytanath: you should be able to boot the old one.. otherwise the problem lies elsewhere01:14
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gnomefreakgaim is not windows01:14
Mr_Miyagitanath: have you checked your partition table?01:15
jbirdAngelgnomefreak: i think it can make it easier tho :)01:15
nnytanath: interesting... yeah Mr_Miyagi was thinking grub is angry01:15
eXistenZgnomefreak: it is installed, I wonder what might cause it that I cannot ping my server neither connect to the ssh server01:15
tanathMr_Miyagi, well i can browse the partition just fine from this livecd01:15
Warbognomefreak: I'm on about trademarking a real thing. Windows, Word, etc01:15
SurfnKidguys whats the argument in /etc/network/interfaces to set the Wifi card rate01:15
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foxinesstanath, did you have a backup ?01:15
tanathnny, grub appears fine... it's after that01:15
gnomefreakeXistenZ: dont know no need for it01:15
SurfnKidso I can set it at 11M or 54M01:15
tanathfoxiness, no01:15
starseedMr_Miyagi: yes, its at the next steo01:15
Mr_Miyagitanath: but is it hda1?01:15
starseedMr_Miyagi: step01:15
james_xxxlinux question: i am trying to make TWO partitions on an external hard drive using Gparted, one formatted to FAT32 and the other to ext3.... it is taking a LONG LONG time to format the ext3 partition (it has been at it for 20 minutes now). is this something that will not work? or does it just take a while?01:15
tanathMr_Miyagi, is what?01:15
eXistenZgnomefreak: for what?01:15
Mr_Miyagistarseed: thankyou01:15
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gnomefreakeXistenZ: ssh01:15
nnyWarbo worked fine btw, misunderstood what grub wanted with device.map btw01:16
ArthurBrazil!tell ArthurBrazil about Nvidia01:16
starseedMr_Miyagi: you'll be able to choose all you mount points01:16
WarboSurfnKid: I think it depends on the driver (mine hasn't worked since I rebooted since installing it :()01:16
nnyer redundant01:16
eXistenZgnomefreak: how can I connect to my server then?01:16
tanathMr_Miyagi, /dev/hda1 is what i want to boot from, yes....01:16
gnomefreakeXistenZ: not sure i dont use it01:16
boricua!tell boricua about signal01:16
eXistenZ!ssh01:16
ubotuhmm... ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH01:16
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nnyWarbo: hmm... yeah it seems Vista Beta 2 installs bootloader to part hda101:16
foxinessjames_xxx, i dont think so01:16
SurfnKidWarbo: oh ok, I thought so01:16
nnyWarbo: if they decide to go with some drm based encryption BS they can keep their damn koolaid01:17
gnomefreaknny: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for windows disscusion01:17
starseedi think its kinda wild that you can get vista rc2 and a one-year serial for free01:17
foxinessjames_xxx,but wait more time and see what will happen01:17
nnygnomefreak: yeah sorry01:17
james_xxxfoxiness: you just don't think it will work??01:17
Warbonny: You can install GRUB to a partition too. Vista beta probably does that to let you still access XP01:17
Mr_Miyagitanath: I've had similar problems because something has changed the partition table. Instead of being eg. hda5, something had changed it to eg. hda7 which confused grub01:17
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starseednot that I'm gonna install that crap01:17
tanathlol @ gparted warning: "Since GParted can be a weapon of mass distruction only root may run it"01:17
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loxetygood evening01:17
nnytanath: lol01:17
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LadyNikonhi01:17
Subhuman_okay, ive copied /home to a new partion, and edited the fstab to reflect this, im about to run "sudo mount -a" ,but is there any way i can remove the old home from / w/o using a live cd?01:17
Mr_Miyagitanath: if you start the ubuntu installer and choose the manual partitioner you can check so that your hda1 is in fact named hda101:18
SurfnKidWarbo: I can finally get sudo apt-get update to run but my download rate is 10K 12K max. and its cable modem. Im linked Ad-Hoc style and the Laptop router can get up to 100KB/s so im trying to change that :/01:18
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FlannelSubhuman_: once you unmount it, sure.01:18
SurfnKidWarbo: whats the command tho01:18
Warbotanath: Hmmm. Why isn't there a US export restriction on that too? (We can't let international terrorists resize their partitions!)01:18
james_xxxtanath: gparted is awesome01:18
SurfnKidWarbo: wireless-rate ?01:18
loxetyI have a pesky package that appears to be broken01:18
Mr_Miyagitanath: if not, the solution is simple, just change the grub.conf to point to the right parition.01:18
LabThug_hmok, what's the trick to seeing all the bugs after you login to launchpad.net?  All I can get it to do is show the ones assigned to me (0).01:18
foxinessjames_xxx, tell me about the size of this partition01:18
gnomefreakloxety: sudo apt-get -f install01:18
loxetywondering how I can go about removing it01:18
Subhuman_Flannel, i mean how do I get to /home on the old partion if the new one is mounted at /home?01:18
FlannelSubhuman_: mount it somewhere else ;)01:18
nickrudLabThug_hm, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs <-- search there01:18
gnomefreakLabThug_hm: are you on the bug team?01:19
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james_xxxfoxiness: the one i am formatting to ext3 is about 22G... and it is an older 5400 rpm HD01:19
WarboSurfnKid: Well I have removed all of the stuff from my config files (in an attempt to start from scratch. No such luck, it just screws the boot process when it is plugged in)01:19
starseedSubhuman_: you'll need to back up all the stuff from there first if you don't want to loose it i think01:19
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Flannelgnomefreak: no, but I agree, launchpad is rather difficult to find bugs in01:19
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keleuscan anyone recommend a decent hex editor?01:19
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tanathMr_Miyagi, nny, i have a suspicion. i messed with the bios settings (boot order) since i couldn't get it to boot from the cd for an unknown reason... perhaps that changed it01:19
loxetygnomefreak: I get the error dpkg: error processing clvm (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 301:19
starseedthen, rm /home/user -Rf , and then create it again, to remount it01:19
gnomefreakFlannel: it can be01:19
WarboI find bugs in Launchpad through Google :)01:19
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SurfnKidWarbo: ah, aint no good. what wifi card u using01:20
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Flannelstarseed: huh?01:20
bbitzhello01:20
LabThug_hmgnomefreak: no, but the last time I tried to file a bug I had to login01:20
WarboSurfnKid: Ermm. I forget the name now (it is a little generic)01:20
fcaliseWhere can I get the xdbe headers for ubuntu 6.06?01:20
starseedcan you be more specific with your "huh"01:20
gnomefreakLabThug_hm: you have to log in01:20
loxetyand a bunch more when running apt-get -f install01:20
FlannelSubhuman_: unmount it, mount it somewhere else.01:20
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Flannelstarseed: why would he want to delete it?  Hes trying to read his data from it01:20
tanathMr_Miyagi, nny, actually, hda1 is still hda1...01:20
gnomefreakloxety: that will either uninstall things or install themt o fix it01:20
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foxinessjames_xxx, the gpartd will informed you if it can not do this step ,like what heppen with me when i do the resize some partition01:20
SurfnKidWarbo:  i see01:20
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Subhuman_Flannel, good idea.01:21
starseedI was under the impression he wants to make his /home/user mounted on a seperate partition01:21
dadcould someone help me?01:21
Mr_Miyagitanath: ok, that rules out that possibility then01:21
SurfnKidWarbo: where can I look for arguments to put on that interfaces file01:21
starseedand still access the data from the root partition01:21
nickruddad, ask away,01:21
xonicdoes anypone know ho i can add the trahcan to my desktop?01:21
gnomefreakdad: not without knowing your problem01:21
foxinessdad, just ask01:21
xnixany video card gurus in here knowledgeable about nvidia cards?01:21
Flannelstarseed: he made a new partition, mounting as home, and wantsto read his old stuff still01:21
james_xxxfoxiness: ok, i am just scared that somehow it got stuck01:21
kdittyi messed up my partitions on my main drive while trying to install badger, so i formatted my main drive and installed badger on that. now i need to access another internal drive that has my music and media files, the drive is /dev/hdd1 and while trying to access this drive in file browser i get the error "device /dev/hdd1 is not removable" "could not execute pmount". can anyone help me with this?01:21
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Mr_Miyagitanath: what file system are you using?01:21
loxetygnomefreak: I understand.. I've tried installing the package again and then removing it but seems to do nothing01:21
dadi just installed dapper drake on a computer of mine today, its my first time with linux01:21
WarboSurfnKid: Funny thing was that I downloaded the driver (because the eBay page for it gave a link to Linux drivers [the main reason I bought that card] ) and after struggling to compile them I found out that they are already in the kernel and the network-admin tool had detected the card fine. It all worked until I rebooted01:21
gnomefreakxonic: it is on help.ubuntu.com01:21
tanathMr_Miyagi, ext301:21
nickrudxonic, gconf-editor, apps/nautilus/desktop iirc01:21
xoniclol01:21
dadand firefox seemed to work, but i cannot access any parts of it that use xml01:22
chadderHey, when I installed updates, I had to restart after updating my Kernel, and after the reboot I was asked which resolution I would like to run at, and I chose a smaller resolution because I was running it in VMWare, now I want to run it full-screen at that resolution but it's not an option anymore. Is there a way I can return to that screen so I may the proper resolution ? =D01:22
boricuais there a nice gui for podcasts?01:22
xonicthx nickrud01:22
gnomefreakloxety: sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename>01:22
dadit says there is an xml parse error01:22
gnomefreakloxety: that install it again01:22
Warboboricua: Rhythmbox can do them01:22
fcaliseWhere can I get the xdbe headers for ubuntu 6.06? (for conky xmms vars)01:22
foxinessjames_xxx, is there something importint on this disk ? if not you can cancel it and start again any way01:22
james_xxxfoxiness: no, this disk is empty01:22
xonicnickrud: it doesn't work01:22
Mr_Miyagitanath: check your grub.conf file and post it in a private message to me01:22
starseedFlannel: right, so if the link to the new partition points to the same /home/user , then he'll have to unmount his home just to read shit, no very efficient, I was just suggesting he backup all that01:22
humanI have no sound with flash movies like those on google video and youtube, does anyone know how to fix that?01:22
nickrudxonic, a sec01:22
Mr_Miyagitanath: it should be located in /boot/grub/grub.conf01:23
Warbodad: Is that when an XML page loads? That is because FireFox is not designed for XML, it is designed for HTML (with the exception of RSS)01:23
loxetygnomefreak: I get the same error01:23
gnomefreakhuman: iirc that is a known issue01:23
SurfnKidWarbo: hah! same thing here, I was looking to compile. then someone here helped me, just to look for the wlan-ng package in Synaptic, and the usbcore had it already too. that was easy. The big problem next was the apt-get update. Which i can do now but at 10KB heh.01:23
foxinessdad, like what ?01:23
gnomefreakloxety: what package?01:23
dadno i mean i open a tab like history or bookmarks, or try to go into preferences, it says theres an xml parse error01:23
SurfnKidWarbo: i know im being picky cuz i can connect, but its slow01:23
tanathMr_Miyagi, menu.lst01:23
humangnomefreak, it worked before01:23
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loxetygnomefreak: clvm01:23
rolerHow do I reconfigure/detect my video?01:24
Warbohuman: You must make sure Firefox (or whatever browser) is started up with nothing else using the sound. If something has been making noise then close it and Firefox then reload Firefox (non-Free applications can never get the hang of sound)01:24
Mr_Miyagitanath: hmm, yea, guess it could be called that as well01:24
gnomefreakloxety: its a known issue they are working on it last i heard01:24
gnomefreakhuman: ^^^01:24
gnomefreakloxety: hold on im gonna look at soemthing01:24
humanok01:24
boricuafor some reason my sound is not that hight eventhough i cranked all volumes to 90%01:24
loxetygnomefreak: thanks01:24
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fcaliseWhere can I get the xdbe headers for ubuntu 6.06? (for conky xmms vars)01:24
nickrudxonic, Alt-F2 gconf-editor <enter> , go to apps/nautilus/desktop, and ithe right pane, trash_icon_visilbe01:24
starseedboricua: make sure you pcm is turned up too01:24
nickruderm, visible01:24
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libdmbis there a metapackage you can use to install php/mysql/apache2 ?01:25
Warbohuman: XMMS on pause is a biggie (stop will stop it accessing soundcard, but pause will leave it hogging the sound)01:25
SurfnKidwow what a difference can shutting the hda down can make on the battery01:25
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LjL!tell libdmb about lamp01:25
boricuastarseed: 97% is the pcm and still01:25
SurfnKidincreased from 52min to 2hrs 30min01:25
gnomefreakloxety: im not sure about that try running the --config command that bash gives you01:25
Mr_Miyagiboricua: not using ubuntu normally, but try and check out the volume levels with 'alsamixer' from a console (if it exists)01:25
rolerHow do I reconfigure/detect my video?01:25
starseedWarbo: change the output to ALSA in the preferences01:25
dadi tried uninstalling and reinstalling firefox completely, including getting rid of dependencies or whatever, and its still having this problem01:25
loxetygnomefreak: sorry?01:25
SurfnKidWarbo: can you use xmms to stream asx?01:25
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xonicthx nickrud01:26
boricuaMr_Miyagi: did that already looking for new ideas :-(01:26
Warbostarseed: Does that fix it? (I never bother changing the preferences and usually it is set to ALSA.... I think)01:26
gnomefreakloxety: sudo dpkg --configure clvm01:26
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krazykitdad: try a new profile.  you can delete your old on by removing ~/.mozilla01:26
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starseedWarbo: use alsa wheever you can so you can play sounds at the same time01:26
jdq997Quick Question guys -- I have installed KOffice.  How do I get this to show up in Gnome?  It shows up in KDE when I login with a KDE session.01:26
WarboSurfnKid: No idea01:26
dadok thanks, i'll try that01:26
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nickrudxonic, I love the alt-f2 keystroke :)01:26
mee2ubuntu live (CD) bootup - desktop install - will that wipe my OS or just install the cd to the HD01:26
ron_ohow do I change my hostname? do I have to change both hosts and hostname?01:26
SurfnKidWarbo: doesnt work for me01:26
starseedWarbo: yah, it uses dmix software mixing .. best thing to happen to linux sound in a while in my opinion01:26
loxetygnomefreak: I get the same error Starting Cluster LVM Daemon clvmd could not connect to cluster manager01:26
dadmee2 i just did it today, i'm pretty sure it can do either01:26
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lufisI'm having trouble compiling F-spot from CVS. I run ./autogen.sh but it doesn't seem to do the trick. I get a no makefile error. Any ideas?01:26
Warbomee2: If you have Windows or another Linux then you can shrink it to make room for Ubuntu01:26
[BreliC] is there a package for FLAC support in Amarok?  Or can I install the gstreamer-0.8 package alongside the 0.10 series?01:27
LjLmee2: if you tell it to not wipe your entire HD, it won't01:27
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gnomefreakloxety: im not sure its installed right just not configed right and i never used it nor heard of it being used01:27
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spikebamarok in dapper uses xine01:27
crimsun_[BreliC] : amarok in Dapper/kubuntu.org uses xine.01:27
nickrudron_o, edit /etc/hostname, and /etc/hosts. look for the 127.0.0.1 definition in /etc/hosts01:27
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Warbo[BreliC] : Amarok uses Xine by default in Dapper01:27
mee2so installing it will not destroy my OS ?01:27
krazykitbrent: use the xine engine.  it's much better01:27
ron_onickrud, thanks...01:27
loxetygnomefreak: I just want to get rid of it :)01:27
[BreliC] so there is a xine plugin?01:27
siriusnovaWarbo - can you help me with this - i formatted the suse reiser partition as ext3 but now i cant find a way to add it to the current partition01:27
[BreliC] for flac?01:27
Meek-anyone here use azureus and run into the problem where the warning messages wont go away when you click hide or hide all, and know the fix?01:27
krazykitbrent: sorry, ignore that.01:27
ron_oI changed only 'hostname' and I couldn't get into sudo.01:27
Warbomee2: Just make sure you read the instructions and messages learly and it won't01:27
chadderHey, when I installed updates, I had to restart after updating my Kernel, and after the reboot I was asked which resolution I would like to run at, and I chose a smaller resolution because I was running it in VMWare, now I want to run it full-screen at that resolution but it's not an option anymore. Is there a way I can return to that screen so I may the proper resolution ? =D01:27
Mr_Miyagi[BreliC] : flac support should be provided by xine or gstreamer01:27
spikeb[BreliC] : yeah01:27
ron_oI see where my mistake was. :)01:27
spikeb[BreliC] : probably in libxine-extracodecs01:28
LjLmee2: as long as you don't tell it to at the partitioning screen, no. it will also install a boot loader (grub) that will allow you to choose which OS to boot from when you power on01:28
mee2THANKS !!!01:28
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nickrudron_o, reboot into recovery mode to edit without sudo, if you need it :)01:28
spikeb[BreliC] : install that and flac, and you're good01:28
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Mr_Miyagi[BreliC] : so there shouldn't be a seperate amarok flac package as I understand01:28
gnomefreakloxety: thats gonna be a trick  what error does it give you with sudo apt-get remove --purge clvm01:28
krazykitpeople shouldn't be allowed to put symbols at the beginnings of their nicks >:-(01:28
ron_oI'm actually in Knoppix, but I'll try your way too.01:28
nickrudkrazykit, +101:28
Mr_Miyagikrazykit: I agree01:28
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starseedchadder: you're in X now and the resolution is off ?01:28
tanathsomeone implied upgraded from breezy to dapper piece by piece might not 'work'. why not?01:28
Warbosiriusnova: get rid of it. Just delete it to make free space. Then Apply the changes, then grow your Ubuntu to take up the free space01:28
daderm, how do i remove a directory in the console?01:29
[BreliC] Mr_Miyagi: well, it says it doesn't understand the file.. and i have libxine extracodecs installed01:29
Davitrolahi. does anyone know how to clear serpentine's cache folder? my computer crashed when it wasn't finished01:29
mee2excellent ! thanks again ... I'm a total newbee to Linux01:29
Mr_Miyagirm -fr01:29
Warbodad: rm -r directoryname01:29
dadthanks01:29
siriusnovaWarbo - how do i grow up my ubuntu?01:29
siriusnovapartition i mean01:29
krazykitDavitrola: but be careful with those commands.01:29
nordlehi guys, can anyone help with this script?  Its for rsyncing with repo.  Don't have net connection, so hoping to DVD the repo to include packages, updates etc  this is it so far:  http://pastebin.ca/64609  My real problem is the size of /pool  it seems to contain all updates for all versions, but doesn't tag the .deb with the current dapper or whatever in a lot of cases.   Can anyone offer any advice on this please?01:29
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krazykitDavitrola: wrong tab completion... today's not my day01:29
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LjLtanath: in my case, i suspect it was because i had some "half"-official upgrades installed (kde 3.5.2, koffice 1.5, etc). in any case, the dist-upgrade messed up badly, and i basically couldn't get into a non-package-conflict simulation without getting my hands very dirty. i eventually installed dapper from scratch01:29
Warbosiriusnova: In GParted there is a Move/Resize button (if it doesn't support resizing ext3 then it is quite easy from console)01:29
krazykitdad: be careful with rm -fr.  it's a wicked command.01:29
Davitrolakrazykit: ;D01:29
loxetygnomefreak: its a lot... Starting Cluster LVM Daemon clvmd could not connect to cluster manager, Consult syslog for more information, invoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed., dpkg: error while cleaning up:,  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3, Errors were encountered while processing:,  clvm, E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:29
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chadderstarseed: Well I'm in X now, but my monitor has a native resolution, and im trying to run it at that.01:29
rolercan someone do the !command to give me the url to re-configure my ubuntu video?01:30
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siriusnovaWarbo - i cant select move/resize01:30
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chadderstarseed: but now my resolution is not on the list.01:30
siriusnovafor some reason :(01:30
fcaliseWhere can I get the xdbe headers for ubuntu 6.06? (for conky xmms vars)01:30
SAM_themanGoodevening Guys01:30
tanathLjL, hm. well it seemed to be going ok for me doing a bit at a time, until i upgraded the kernel...01:30
SAM_themanMy Pa fixed the internet01:30
LjL!fixres01:30
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ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:30
starseedchadder: try <ctrl> <alt> + or -01:30
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foxinessmee2, if you want use app like partition magic on windows or on linux if you know how to use this and create freespace then ubnutnu installer will ask you if you want to use this it01:30
tanathLjL, now i can't boot01:30
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_Mr_Denix_Hey ! i tried to install new stuff like gFTP  DC++ Flash Plug-in etc in ubuntu and it gives me . E: Couldn't find package  can i be helped please ?01:30
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siriusnovaWarbo i have an NTFS partition an empty 10GB partition and an ext3 Ubuntu partition01:30
Warbosiriusnova: OK, GParted musn't like it for ext3. I have resized ext3 from a console though and it is not that difficult (actually it is automatic :))01:30
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siriusnovawhen i click the ext3 partition well right click it the only option i have is to unmount01:31
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siriusnova:/01:31
LjLtanath: hm, i think that happened to me too -- but i didn't give it too much attention since i had already decided to reinstall...01:31
nomin!grub01:31
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting01:31
chadderstarseed: Nah, didn't do anything.01:31
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tanathMr_Miyagi, is that what you were looking for?01:31
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krazykit_Mr_Denix_: because that's not the name of the packages.  use synaptic to search for them.  and use valknut for dc++.  it's the only usable client01:31
starseedchadder : holding ctrl + alt (same time) and then also hitting "+" didnt' change the resolution ?01:31
LabThug_hmbug filed and assigned to cups package.  Let's see what happens01:31
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Warbosiriusnova: Basically use parted command and fdisk to grow the partition then use the ext3 resizing command without any options and it will automatically grow to the new size of the partition01:31
LabThug_hmBug #49415  <-- wow.  That's a lot of bugs!01:32
_Mr_Denix_krazykit ! great ! thanks mate !01:32
chadderstarseed: Nope ?01:32
nickrud_Mr_Denix_, you need to enable multiverse & universe repos. See !components & !universe below for why and how.01:32
mee2>foxiness ... ok thanks again .. i'll ghost my HD before i start anything... just to be on the safe side01:32
nickrud!components01:32
ubotuThe rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components01:32
nickrud!universe01:32
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.01:32
Mr_Miyagi[BreliC] : think there is a flac package for gstreamer, try installing that and choose gstreamer as your sound engine in amarok01:32
Warbosiriusnova: I will get myself familiar with the commands (I haven't used them since my FC4 days)01:32
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siriusnovaWarbo - could you guide me through the process, im kinda worried about hosing my install01:32
drentonhey chaps01:32
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siriusnovaheh01:32
krazykitLabThug_hm: keep in mind that some bugs aren't bugs, many are dupes, and so on.01:32
chadderstarseed: CTRL+ALT+ENTER gives me fullscreen.01:32
_Mr_Denix_nickrud thanks !01:32
LabThug_hmkrazykit: yep, true, true01:32
boricuacan rythembox play video podcasts?01:32
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[BreliC] Mr_Miyagi: there is, but it's gstreamer-0.8.  is it ok to install alongside 0.10?01:32
foxinessmee2, sure good idea i think ,goodluck01:32
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starseedchadder: make sure you hit the + on the numpad01:33
Mr_Miyagi[BreliC] : don't know01:33
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Stormx2What does #NAME? mean in OpenOffice?01:33
SAM_themanok01:33
SAM_themanwhat model01:33
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danfghow can i control a vlc media player from the command line?01:33
drentonI'm installer dapper, and used the "edit partitions manually" option. Now I've got all my partitions set, except I can't figure out how to set the flags through the gui. How do i do that?01:33
[BreliC] Mr_Miyagi: thanks..01:33
fcaliseWhere can I get the xdbe headers for ubuntu 6.06? (for conky xmms vars)01:33
mee2later all01:33
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chadderstarseed: I am man, it gaps for a second, like it's doing something then ... nothing.01:33
Warbosiriusnova: Can you live with a few MB not being used? It seems easier to use MB than cylinder/sector stuff01:33
siriusnovaWarbo - sure01:34
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Stormx2What does #NAME? mean in OpenOffice Calc?01:34
Warbosiriusnova: Are you using the partition at the moment or are you on a LiveCD?01:34
starseedchadder: all that does is cycle through the resolutions you got set up in /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:34
siriusnovaWarbo - im using it right now01:34
siriusnovaim in Ubuntu atm01:34
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fcaliseI need the xdbe headers does anyone know where to get these for ubuntu?01:34
starseedchadder: so that's where you need to look to get your res the way you want it01:34
Warbosiriusnova: Ermmm.... Maybe that's why GParted won't let you resize it :)01:35
siriusnovadamn01:35
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Mr_Miyagi[BreliC] : I havn't used ubuntu before, I'm installing it right now on my parents machine so sorry I can't help you more01:35
foxinessbefore i upgrade to dapper am installed firefox from source 1.5 now i think  it come with 1.5.3 and the sys steal use the old one 1.5 becase i point to it on the past,now how colud i returen to the defalut one?01:35
siriusnovahmm01:35
chadderstarseed: Okay, I'll see what's there.01:35
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siriusnovaand i dont have a knoppix live cd01:35
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siriusnova:X01:35
Warbosiriusnova: I think gparted.sourceforge.net has a little LiveCD01:35
siriusnovaWarbo - ok01:35
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nickrudfoxiness, if you compiled source, and installed it in /usr, do a fresh install of dapper. Otherwise, reverse what you did.01:36
Warbosiriusnova: Test it in Qemu beforehand if you can, I think I heard someone say that it has problems with X01:36
siriusnovaWarbo - ok i will01:36
boricuaresize options did not work for me neither with gparted live cd nor ubuntu live cd01:36
fcaliseI need the xdbe headers does anyone know where to get these for ubuntu?01:36
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siriusnovaboricua - really? damn01:36
starseedchadder: if this is your first foray into xorg.conf , it's unthe the "Screen" section , towards the bottom of the file01:36
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Flannelfoxiness: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion  that talks about removing it01:37
KanRiNiNhttp://pastebin.com/703543 New OpenOffice Problems after I restarted...I think I need to edit my xorg.conf01:37
Warbosiriusnova: I have resized ext3 many times with console in the past (and that had the added complexity of LVM)01:37
foxinessnickrud, sure ,but now i need to find the "how to install firefox" what i read on the past01:37
chadderstarseed: I noticed there are different 'depth's what is that about?01:37
starseedchadder: trying to get it up to 1280x1024 ?01:37
Warbosiriusnova: That means you need a LiveCD with parted and an IRC client :)01:37
james_xxxok i partitioned my external drive... one partition is FAT32, and the other is ext3... now my computer does not recognize the ext3 partition. would anyone know why this would be?01:37
siriusnovaWarbo - hmm i guess i should go find a knoppix cd01:37
eobanbWarbo, uhh how about the dapper live CD :P01:37
foxinessFlannel, thank you :)01:37
siriusnovai know i had one lying around somewhere01:37
siriusnovahmm01:38
Warbojames_xxx: "Computer"? Which bit? Windows won't01:38
starseedchadder: um, 24 is the highest .. is the number of colors you can display at once i believe , 24bit is millions01:38
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nickrudfoxiness, ah, a man with my style. Do it, don't document it. That's why I don't source anymore :)01:38
u01p2109!CLI01:38
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org01:38
eobanbsiriusnova, how about the dapper live CD01:38
KanRiNiNhttp://pastebin.com/703543 Should I move the xorg.conf to ati or vesa or what?01:38
siriusnovaeobanb - i dont think it has gparted01:38
chadderAh I need 1680x1050 resolution.01:38
siriusnovaand i lost my cd a loong time ago heh01:38
eternaljoyI will have to install Dapper and start from stratch?01:38
foxinessnickrud, hahah good01:38
eobanbuh, well, the install process has a partitioner01:38
MystaI'm trying to update the linux-headers files, and its asking for a CD, why is that????01:39
siriusnovaive been following dapper betas01:39
james_xxxWarbo: no, i am using kubuntu, but it will not recognize the ext3 partition on my external USB drive01:39
eobanbwhich as far as i know is just a front end for parted01:39
fcaliseI need the xdbe headers, does anyone know where to get these for ubuntu?01:39
siriusnovaand didnt really install dapper fresh on this machine01:39
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chadderstarseed: I need 1680x1050 resolution.01:39
WarboMysta: You can remove the CD and only use Internet in Synaptic>Settings>Repositories01:39
de0xyrib0seok i'm planning on installing ubuntu on a dual-boot, xp and ubuntu, would the boot loader automatically detect xp? anyone ever do this?01:39
starseedchadder: add it as the first resoltuion, using the same format in the 24 section01:39
MystaWarbo, i am @ CLI, no GUI01:39
foxinessnickrud, i think when the firefox 2.0 come out you will change your mind like me01:39
nameless|afkhow to fully remove packages installed via apt-get? i tryd via apt-get remove package01:39
Warbojames_xxx: Ah. Is that automatically or with mount in a console?01:39
nameless|afkstill leaves stuff behind somehow :(01:39
LjLnameless|afk: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename01:39
MystaWarbo, do i edit out the deb cdrom: line in my source.list01:39
nickrudMysta, because the cd has the headers; putting a # in front of the deb-cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list will stop that01:39
WarboMysta: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"01:40
cafuegoMysta: edit /etc/apt/sources.list01:40
starseedchadder: so "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" etc01:40
nameless|afkLjL i tryd that01:40
nameless|afkstill stuff stays behind01:40
LjLnameless|afk: what kind of stuff?01:40
james_xxxWarbo: automatically... do i need to go into a console?01:40
slackernde0xyrib0se: It should, it did that for me.01:40
Mystanickrud, Warbo, cafuego: gotcha guys thanks.01:40
nickrudfoxiness, nah, i'll get it in a deb somewhere01:40
starseedchadder: and make sure DefaultDepth is set to 24 of course01:40
nameless|afkwell i installed tomcat5, but after apt-get remove then updatedb i still find files related with tomcat501:40
de0xyrib0seslackern thanks01:41
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Warbojames_xxx: Well I would. Mount it with "sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt" where X is the partition number (I am assuming that it is sda) then if that works you can add those options to /etc/fstab to be done automatically at boot (you can change /mnt to any folder which already exists)01:41
chadderstarseed: I don't think I have a Default Depth, havn't found it yet.01:41
slackernde0xyrib0se: I only used the alternate cd though, so im not 100% sure how the desktop-install handles it but i guess it should.01:41
james_xxxWarbo: ty i will do that01:41
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Warbonickrud: It is easier to type commands than type GUI into an IRC room :)01:42
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tanathwhat config file do you edit to disallow root logins?01:42
LjLtanath: root logins *are* disabled by default01:42
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nickrudI think synaptic should have a button that gets https://paste.ubuntu-nl.or/6666 :)01:42
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starseedchadder: should be one of the first options set under the "screen" section01:43
Warbonickrud: When we get the official Ubuntu video-on-demand service then GUIs will become easier to demonstrate :)01:43
_jasonha01:43
boricua!podcast01:43
ubotuboricua: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:43
nickrudWarbo, oh, work !!!01:43
chadderstarseed: Nope, couldn't find it. Should I just throw it in there?01:43
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Daverag Can someone tell me how I could send an email to a new user's IMAP each time I create it?01:43
lrrrhello!01:43
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jbroomeDaverag: ooh, good idea.. To create the maildir, right?01:44
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chadderstarseed: DefaultDepth 24 or "24" ?01:44
tanathLjL, irrelevant. what file?01:44
starseedno ""01:44
james_xxxWarbo: that still didn't mount that partition. maybe it did not format successfully01:44
Mystahey, now I can't run sudo apt-get linux-headers.... it states theres a lock on /var/lib/dpkg/. how do i find out what process is using this?01:44
lrrri cant get the internet to work in ubuntu. if i boot off the cd it works fun but on the installed desktop it doesnt.01:44
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Warbojames_xxx: Try "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" and that will tell you about the partitions01:44
nickrudMysta, it's most likey synaptic01:45
LjLtanath: not the slightest idea. look here01:45
lrrrit shows the correct domains and dns under networking and everything looks good01:45
LjL!tell tanath about root01:45
Warbojames_xxx: Do you have a SATA or SCSI harddrive?01:45
lrrrwhat could i be overlooking?01:45
Mystanickrud, no GUI, strictly CLI01:45
chadderstarseed: Should I then restart?01:45
u01p2109Gaim not support user`s info in russian (WINDOWS-1251) why?01:45
LjLtanath: it explains how to allow root logins, i suppose it  might mention the relevant files01:45
fogoswhat's the default port of vnc?01:45
nameless|afkLjL is there a list to see what kinda packages are installed?01:45
nameless|afkfogos 590001:45
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james_xxxWarbo: it is an IDE... i just put it into a USB case01:45
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starseedchadder: yah, logout get to the login screen then do a <ctrl> <alt> <backspace>01:45
fogos<nameless|afk>, ok thanks01:45
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Daveragjbroome: totally01:46
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chadderstarseed: Okay, thanks. :)01:46
starseedchadder: np, good luck01:46
nickrudMysta, hrm. only one consloe in use?01:46
LjLnameless|afk: typing "dpkg -l" will show you a list of all the packages you have installed01:46
Warbojames_xxx: I mean your main drive. SCSI is /dev/sda, and nowerdays so are SATA and USB. That means that the drive may be sdb, sdc or something01:46
Mystanickrud, yes01:46
chadderstarseed: I'll be back if I have issues. :P :)01:46
nameless|afkcrap01:46
nameless|afka lot01:46
skomi upgraded to dapper and have been unable to get wireless working01:46
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skomi have a broadcom 431801:46
cafuegothat's too bad01:46
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jbroomeDaverag: i'm not sure how to pull that off, but i'd be interested to hear the solution if you find it01:46
cafuegoYou'll need to set up ndiswrapper with the windows driver01:47
eobanbskom, it's still possible to get working01:47
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skombut i have ndiswrapper installed and working01:47
skomnot sure what my problem is01:47
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james_xxxWarbo: something may have gone wrong while i was formatting with gparted. it took it like 35 minutes to format that 20G partition to ext3.... that just isn't right01:47
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Mystanickrud, hmm when i type who, it states i'm logged in twice from the same IP01:47
nickrudMysta, the only times I can remember that happening, removing /var/dpkg/lock worked. I was using a recovery console when I did that.01:47
skomif anyone has suggestions01:47
Sheldarhmm, I thought there was a native driver for broadcom.01:47
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cafuegoskom: Is bcm43xx disabled?01:47
donk__what all do i need to install to use PHP's GD lib?01:47
Mystanickrud, how do I log off remote users?01:47
donk__just php5-gd01:47
nickrudMysta, that is over my head01:47
petrewanybody know whats going on with wireless problems in dapper drake?01:47
cafuegoSheldar: There is, but the 4318 doesn't work (yet)01:47
Mystanickrud, ok thanks01:48
skomhow do i know if its disabled?01:48
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Mystad01:48
Warbojames_xxx: Well if you are SURE which device the partition is (like /dev/sda1 for example) then "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sda1" will do it. ONLY do this if you know the device and partition name because you may format the wrong one01:48
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cafuegoskom: Check if it's blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist01:48
troytroyhi i need help in configuring my atheros wireles card. its detected as ath001:49
babygirlcan someone anwser a question for me really quick01:49
nameless|afkLjL how come then after i removed a package i still can list it?01:49
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Ademanhow do you get openAL redistrobutables for linux? (ubuntu specifically) is there a better way than to use the source tarball?01:49
babygirli am trying to isntall SUSe via FTP net install disk01:49
babygirlbut i can not seem to get it to work01:49
skomwill do.01:49
babygirlcan someone help me01:49
jbroomebabygirl: try #suse01:49
de0xyrib0sebabygirl forget about it01:49
WarboAdeman: It is libopenal0 I thing (in apt)01:49
nickrudbabygirl, sure, probably on #suse01:49
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WarboAdeman: If not 0 then a different number01:49
de0xyrib0seit wont go past the building library dialog01:49
babygirlok01:49
AdemanWarbo: probably01:49
babygirlthanks01:49
tanathLjL, actually, it doesn't but i have something else to try. thx anyway01:50
Ademanthanks Warbo01:50
skomcafuego it doesn't seem to be blacklisted01:50
nickrudbabygirl, or check their website if the channel is rude01:50
cafuegoskom: Add it in, them 'rmmod bcm43xx' to make sure it's not loaded.01:50
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skomsorry, how do i add it in? what should i call it?01:50
troytroyhi i need help in configuring my atheros wireles card. its detected as ath001:50
james_xxxWarbo: ok to format sda2 like that... the only thing i need to change in the command you gave me is sad2 instead of sda1, right? btw, if it messes up, it's no big deal, the drive is empty01:51
skomshould i add blacklist bcmxx?01:51
skomer bcm43xx01:51
Warbojames_xxx: Correct (I assume "sad" was a type and you meant "sda" :))01:51
Jinkgunsoooo... bcm, good luck.01:51
JinkgunsIt took me two months to get that working. :/01:51
Warbotype I mean james_xxx01:51
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Warbojames_xxx: AAA! I mean TYPO!01:51
cafuegoskom: yep01:51
Warbo:)01:51
nickrudJinkguns, you didn't talk to the right dude :))01:51
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AdemanWarbo: i have a libopenAL0a and a libopenAL0  whats with the a?01:52
Jinkguns:))01:52
JinkgunsActually I think it is WPA that is screwing things up.01:52
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_Mr_Denix_is there any way to set pc to shut down in a given time or at a given time ? thanks01:52
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WarboAdeman: No idea. Try installing a game which uses it (like chromium) and see which one it chooses01:52
JinkgunsThe built in dapper stuff and the experimental firmware package is working fine.01:52
james_xxxWarbo: yea, it was a typo lol01:52
LjLnameless|afk: you'll see it's not listed as "ii", but as "rc" or something. try "dpkg -l | grep ii" to filter out that01:52
skomcafuego: ok, did that01:52
Warbo_Mr_Denix_: CRON probably (I've never used it myself)01:52
JinkgunsThe odd thing is when I try to hard to get on a encrypted wireless network and the whole thing just stops working totally and I have to do a reinstall (the wireless)01:53
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nickrud_Mr_Denix_, use the shutdown command, man shutdown will tell you how to choose a time, or a relative time01:53
_Mr_Denix_Warbo nickrud ! appreciate your support guys ! thanks alot01:53
jdq997Quick Question guys -- I have installed KOffice.  How do I get this to show up in Gnome?  It shows up in KDE when I login with a KDE session.01:53
nickrud_Mr_Denix_, but!!!01:53
_Mr_Denix_yes ...01:53
nameless|afkLjL hmm.. makes sense :D01:53
nickrud_Mr_Denix_, there is no guarantee that any data you have open will be saved01:53
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skomcafuego do i need to apply the changes somehow?01:54
Warbojdq997: If you know the commands for the KOffice programs you can add them in Alacarte (in Accessories)01:54
xonicablyss: you there01:54
_Mr_Denix_lol nickrud ! I'm planing on falling asleep on music ! no data what so ever needs to be saved ! thanks for your concern ! lol awesome01:54
Warbojdq997: (actually they might be there already but just disabled)01:54
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jdq997hmmm.. ok, I'll have to track them down then.  Thanks.01:54
Sheldaranyone know an alternative for MS Publisher? I specifically need to do brochures, and scribus is great at some stuff, but brochures is not one of them.01:55
nickrud_Mr_Denix_, heh :)01:55
_Mr_Denix_:)01:55
eXistenZCan anyone help regarding ubuntu server here?01:55
nameless|afkSheldar adobe indesign :P01:55
nameless|afkeXistenZ what kinda help you need?01:55
WarboSheldar: Wow, someone who uses Publisher, that's rare. Microsoft just made all of it's fuctionality into Word :)01:55
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eXistenZis the iptables configured by default to drop ICMP packets?01:55
troytroyhi i need help in configuring my atheros wireles card. its detected as ath001:55
nickrudconservativism is good :)01:56
SheldarWarbo: yeah, but I need the brochure part.01:56
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troytroybut cant connect to any network01:56
WarboSheldar: Crossover Office will let you run it probably (maybe even basic WINE)01:56
troytroyhi my wireless nic cant connect to any network01:57
SheldarWarbo: really? That could work.01:57
troytroyhi my wireless nic cant connect to any network althougth detected as ath001:57
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Sheldarthanks all01:58
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skomcafuego is there another step i should take, i have no wireless extensions now01:58
_jason2How can I keep my cpu frequency at its maximum? (my laptop reduces it to 75% when the load is low)01:58
eternaljoy_jason: you cannot01:59
cafuegoskom: You need to now unload ndiswrapper and then reload it.01:59
FreqJason> Why would you want to do that?01:59
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FreqThat'll just suck your battery life with no performance boost01:59
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WarboFreQ: i'M GUESSING HE IS ON ac POWER01:59
_jason2Freq: I want to do it because my modem driver has a bug that disconnects me if my cpu freq changes01:59
WarboSorry, caps lock01:59
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Warbo:)02:00
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_jason2Freq: quite annoying :)02:00
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FreqI would imagine02:00
FreqThen again, modems are rather annoying ;)02:00
troytroy_jason,  hi my wireless nic cant connect to any network althougth detected as ath002:00
winbond!glx02:00
ubotuwinbond: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:00
_jason2troytroy: hi, sorry I don't know about wireless02:01
WarboFreq: Serial/Ethernet ones are a dream. Sadly people's idea of what a modem is have changed recently02:01
Warbo!xgl02:01
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:01
Warbowinbond: :)02:01
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eXistenZCan anyone tell me whether iptables in ubuntu server is configured by default to drop ICMP packets?02:01
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nameless|afk!tomcat02:01
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nameless|afk02:01
nickrudxgl = /dev/null02:01
troytroy_jason,  ok02:01
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si9oanyone know how to get .mkv videos to play in totem? all my other videos are working02:01
Warbosi9o: What codec is that?02:02
nickrudsi9o, are they drm encoded?02:02
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si9onot sure02:02
winbondWarbo: thanks , did you get it running by any chance?02:02
Mewshiwhen i put the install cd in my girlfriend's dvd drive (which was the only one hooked up at the time) it didn't work... switched it to the actual cd drive, and it works perfectly... Why?02:02
Ademanwhat use is compiz without xgl or aiglx?02:02
nickrudsi9o, that's the reall sticky point, it's hard for us to know also02:02
pimpinhi everyone....i just installed ubuntu last night but im having some problem....before i boot my computer displays this msg: Pri Master Hard Disk, S.M.A.R.T. bad, backup and replace ... any ideas??02:02
skomcafuego i removed then reloaded the driver, but did you want me to unload ndiswrapper itself?02:02
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Warbowinbond: Yes using the guide on the Wiki. I turned it off since the root window (background) isn't used and I have Nautilus disble desktop. Also some compiz "features" are annoying (and some of them crash)02:03
fiveironanyone using ufs?02:03
si9olol i understand, but i didn't encode them02:03
skom(i just used ndiswrapper02:03
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nickrudpimpin, if you have the smart stuff installed, it seems to be saying your drive is screwed. Only a first cut, of course.02:03
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kdittycan someone help me mount an internal hard drive on bootup? i have some important files located on the drive and would like to access them02:03
skom's gui to remove then reload the bcmwl5 driver02:04
WarboAdeman: I think it complains of "missing Composite extension" id you run it in regular Xorg02:04
ScuniziIDENTIFY 3011jake02:04
winbondWarbo: do u have ati or nv vard?02:04
winbondcard02:04
Warbowinbond: nv02:04
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troytroyhi anyone using wireless here i need help in configuring my ath002:04
pimpinthanks nickrud ... i guess that means ill have to replace it, do you know of any tool i can use to be sure if there is no other option??02:04
kdittytroy im on wireless02:04
cafuegoskom: Yeh02:04
judith_Sound was working then stopped suddenly! Even re-installation will not help. Anyone on Dapper?02:05
eobanbmkv is not a codec, it's a container format02:05
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winbondWarbo: k , i have ati , do you know by any chance how to get rid of the xserver that was installed for xgl and reinstall the old one that come default?02:05
skomhow do i unload and reload ndiswrapper itself?02:05
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eobanbit's matrioshka02:05
skomcafuego sorry i should know how to do that02:05
nickrudpimpin, the smartmontools provide the best tools I am aware of for checking a drive02:05
Matthewvkditty, what format disk?02:05
kdittyMatthewv: ntfs i believe02:06
nickrudpimpin, aware of, meaning used once or twice :)02:06
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Matthewvkditty, where is the disk located? and what partition?02:06
pimpinthanks man! ill try to see if there is any hope for me ;)02:06
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Warbowinbond: Xgl IS the newer X server. It doesn't replace Xorg, but the way I set it up was to make /usr/bin/X a link to /usr/bin/Xgl, so just changing it back to /usr/bin/Xorg put me back on regular X02:06
kdittyi installed it under windows, and somehow messed up my partitions while installing dapper. so i formatted my main disk and would like to access the other hard disk02:06
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kdittythe disc is an ide slave hard disk, its an internal drive02:07
craftehI have a Thinkpad T40. I had a USB keyboard for a while... and ever since using the USB keyboard on the laptop, the keys on my regular keyboard are not mapped correctly in X. How can I fix this? My xorg.conf doesn't look any different!02:07
nickrudWarbo, I hear rumblings that AIGLX may be in edgy, not XGL02:07
kdittyive never partitioned it Matthewv02:07
eobanbnickrud, i've heard the opposite02:07
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nickrudrumblings can be gas02:07
Warbonickrud: I prefer the AIGLX approach, as it seems to be pooling effort02:07
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winbondWarbo: ok , so anyway for me to uninstall the new xserver and reinstall the old one?02:08
Mewshihi02:08
Matthewvkditty, try looking in System --> Help --> System Documentation section 4.2.3     Any troulbe give a yell in here02:08
AdemanWarbo: huh, so that means I either need AIGLX or XGL right?02:08
kdittyok thanks02:08
TopfsHi everyone, I just installed Dapper Drake Final and I have problems setting up my Wireless with WPA? Have searched and searched for a Howto is there someone here that can point me in the right direction?02:08
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Warbowinbond: "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl" as for reinstalling, it should still be there anyway02:08
AdemanWarbo: are we sure it won't just get handled by mesa?02:08
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mnvlwhat's a good ssh client?02:09
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eobanbmnvl, uhhh, how about ssh02:09
Matthewvmnvl, windows or linux?02:09
winbondWarbo: ok thank you02:09
WarboAdeman: It will be handled by Mesa if you have a GL X server but no accelerated graphics card driver (actually, in reality, it won't)02:09
Warboeobanb: lol02:09
mnvlfor ubuntu Matthewv02:09
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eobanbmnvl, ssh02:09
Matthewvmnvl, just use gnome terminal (Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal) and run ssh02:09
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Hattoridamn.. i'm quite tired.. who can tell me how to remove all this mess (gdm, compiz, xgl, ....) and reinstall clean? i can't even install the ati driver correctly (can't get rendering to work) now it's a mess. any way to remove all and reinstall all?02:10
Matthewvmnvl, run 'ssh <user>@<server>'02:10
kdittyMatthewv: should i consider this a windows partition even though the drive doesnt have windows on it? i formatted windows because i currupted the drive while trying to install dapper02:10
eXistenZMatthewv, I just put a screen to my server02:10
Matthewvkditty, yes02:10
eXistenZMatthewv, ssh is well installed02:10
kdittyok, thanks02:10
WarboHattori: Just apt-get remove whatever you apt-get installed (you may want to keep the drivers like MEsa)02:11
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eXistenZMatthewv, Is it possible that iptables blocks port 22?02:11
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WarboHattori: Hang on..... GDM? That is quite important (if you use GNOME)02:11
AdemanWarbo: what did you mean by in reality it wont?02:11
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HattoriWarbo: i need to know what to remove..02:11
pimpinnickrud, one last question, i just downloaded smartmontools from synaptic and it installed ok, but where do i find the app?02:12
Hattorican i uninstall gnome too?02:12
Hattorijust to have a clean gnome..02:12
ArthurBrazilI have a file in my desktop that i would like to move graphically somewhere else. How would i do that?02:12
Topfsanyone knows a howto to get WPA working with Atheros cards in Dapper Drake??02:12
Matthewvhi eXistenZ ... so you are sure that openssh-server is installed.. installing ssh wont automatically install that02:12
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skomcafuego: how do i reload ndiswrapper?02:12
MatthewvArthurBrazil, drag and drop from your desktop to wherever02:12
WarboAdeman: Mesa uses your CPU for any OpenGL that your graphics card can't do. That is why 3D games work without 3D drivers, just very slowly. XGL, however, requires some things which are only in the 3D drivers (large texture support for mapping windows to objects, etc.)02:12
eXistenZMatthewv, It will, and I checked openssh-server anyways.02:12
nickrudpimpin, dpkg -L smartmontools | grep bin for the commands. man <command> tells you how to use the command02:13
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ArthurBrazilMatthewv, sorry i wasnt being specific. The folder has permissions02:13
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pimpinthanks again!02:13
WarboHattori: Look in whatever guide you followed and do the opposite. Usually just compiz-gnome and xserver-xgl02:13
Ademanah, so what you're saying is the openGL implementation that mesa has doesnt have all the required extensions (render to texture, maybe texture rectangle)02:13
eyequeueMatthewv, ??  Depends: openssh-client, openssh-server02:13
FlannelHattori: if you want, you could uninstall everything (except ubuntu-base) and then reinstall ubuntu-desktop02:13
nickrudpimpin, substitute any package name for smartmontools whenever you wanna know about a package02:13
WarboAdeman: Exactly (although the features needed are a little more complex)02:14
eyequeueMatthewv, apt-cache show ssh | grep Depends02:14
eXistenZMatthewv, Is it run automatically, or do I have to run it?02:14
MatthewvArthurBrazil, if you need superuser priveledges to access it, from terminal run 'sudo cp /home/<user>/Desktop/<filename> /where/you/want/the/file'02:14
HattoriFlannel: yes, how? so all config files would have default settings02:14
eXistenZMatthewv, I tried ssh localhost, and it worked =/02:14
WarboAdeman: Compiz ALWAYS needs an OpenGL X server, but it does not theoretically need any 3D drivers02:14
pimpinok cool02:14
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ArthurBrazilMatthewv, thanks buddu02:14
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MatthewveXistenZ, i think you actually have to run it, but i could be wrong... but can you get a ping now?02:14
skipmeisteranybody here have dual monitors running on an ATI card?02:14
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eXistenZMatthewv, no ping02:15
AdemanWarbo: are you familiar with openGL extensions?02:15
farousskipmeister: yap02:15
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WarboAdeman: Nope, but I have read a lot of press reports about ATI and NVidia's response and stance on XGL and AIGLX02:15
MatthewveXistenZ, sry, but i gtg now, i wont be back for a while02:15
skipmeisterfarous, did you config it through the ATI config gui or some other way?02:15
ArthurBrazilMatthewv, what if it is a folder i want to move?02:15
farousskipmeister: it can work in dual mode or just enable xinerama there is native xinerama support too open /etc/xorg.conf and you will find it in device section uncomment the lines there02:16
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SAM_themanyo hommies how i cgange my regular fonts in ubutnu ???02:16
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MatthewvArthurBrazil, then add the -R switch to the command i think...02:16
skipmeisterfarous, ok thanks02:16
WarboDoes anyone know if libflash ruins the proprietory Flash plugin? (I get no sound)02:16
ArthurBrazilok thanks man02:16
nickrudSAM_theman, System->Preferences->Fonts02:16
Matthewvsry ArthurBrazil eXistenZ gtg now..02:16
eXistenZMatthewv, have a nice day!02:16
farousskipmeister: depend what you want. dual head you need to do it yourself anyother config can be done by fglrxcontrol if you have the property driver fglrx installed02:16
eXistenZMatthewv, seeya02:16
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ArthurBrazilMatthewv, thanks prob sloved02:17
AdemanWarbo: oh ok, because I know that it wouldnt be tough to implement the required extension GL_EXT_pixmap_texture in software, the real question is would i need to replace the mesagl.so or could i create an "add on" library02:17
FlannelHattori: right, you remove them with --purge to remove their config files too02:17
skipmeisterfarous, basically I want an extended desktop02:17
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farousare you running the property or the opensource drivers02:18
ArthurBrazilanyone know the command to delete a folder?02:18
WarboAdeman: As far as I know Mesa is very modular/extendable so you shouldn't have to replace anything02:18
HattoriFlannel: who are "them" ? ;}02:18
FlannelHattori: all the packages?02:18
nameless|afkArthurBrazil rm * -rf02:18
skipmeisterlocate ati02:18
skipmeisterwoops...02:18
WarboAdeman: You MAY have to recompile Mesa to recognise your add-on though02:18
ArthurBrazilthanks02:18
FlannelHey guys, not to rain on your party, but can you take the Mesa/etc talk to #ubuntu-offtopic? (seriously! it's a real channel! perfect for this conversation!)02:18
AdemanWarbo: then maybe i'll look into it, although, my experience with openGL without 3d acceleration has been terrible, I can't imagine how slow it would be, even though it would be a couple of texture mapped quads02:18
eyequeueArthurBrazil, rmdir02:18
Ademanbut i'll brb i'm gonna anchor myself to my desk02:19
nameless|afkalso an option :P02:19
WarboFlannel: Sorry. Should I take all conversations there where I am basically making up my knowledge as I go along? :)02:19
skipmeisterfarous, open source02:19
nickrudWarbo, rflol02:19
troytroyhi anyone using wireless here i need help in configuring my ath002:19
troytroyhi my wireless nic cant connect to any network althougth detected as ath002:20
FlannelWarbo: heh, #ubuntu is a support channel, Go ahead and make up information here, but non-support information creation should be done in -offtopic please ;)02:20
farousskipmeister: ok what card do you have. if you have the radeon drivers it is easy. Will be easier too if you can post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on the pastebin02:20
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nameless|afkoffline for a moment02:20
nameless|afkbbl02:20
ArthurBrazileyequeue, what if there are files in the directory?02:20
WarboFlannel: Yeah, I only came in here to get help with Flash but I got a little carried away02:20
eyequeueArthurBrazil, then rm them first02:20
skipmeisterfarous, I have the X1600, I'll paste my config file now...02:20
skipmeisterfarous, sorry, Mobility X160002:20
nickrudthe joy of this channel is dancing that edge02:21
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HattoriFlannel: i open synaptic, select all but ubuntu-base, and hit remove?02:21
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FlannelWarbo: it happens to the lot of us.  I'm not doing this to stifle the conversation (although they usually die when asked to go to -offtopic), talk all you want, just in the right ones ;)02:21
eyequeuenickrud, no, that's #ubuntu+1 ;)02:21
Mystaduring installation i created multiple partitions, how do i see these partitions from the CLI?, I have no GUI02:21
FlannelHattori: no, that won't work, since you'll be removing synaptic as well.02:21
FlannelHattori: and, it'd be "remove completely"02:21
nickrudeyequeue, no, the edge of knowing what you say, and not02:21
WarboFlannel: i have a few apps waiting for me, but I need this Flash thing sorted :(02:21
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farousno problem that is an excellent card02:21
FlannelHattori: remove leaves config files, completely doesnt,02:21
eyequeuenickrud, poor attempt at a pun here02:21
HattoriFlannel: indeed, so how?02:22
FlannelHattori: apt-get remove02:22
eXistenZwhat might cause it that I cannot even ping my ubuntu server box?02:22
eyequeueMysta, fdisk -l02:22
FlannelWarbo: sorry, I have no GUI, and as such, no flash to have experience with02:22
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farouseXistenZ: firewall either on the box or router02:22
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skipmeisterfarous, paste is at http://pastebin.com/703572. Note that I have not configured the second monitor yet02:22
Warboapt-get --purge remove will remove configs02:22
nickrudeyequeue, heh. I'm good at my humor, humor me when I'm an idiot. Thanks :)02:22
kdittyMatthewv: when i tried to mount the drive in fstab it still doesnt show up. under system > administration > disks it shows up, and it says enabled but i i cant browse the drive02:22
Mystathx eyequeue02:22
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WarboFlannel: :)02:22
eXistenZfarous, no probs on the router02:22
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HattoriFlannel: ya but which packages?02:23
WarboI'll have another go myself then02:23
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eXistenZfarous, Are ICMP blocked on ubuntu by default?02:23
farouseXistenZ: are you on LAN or trying to ping from a WAN02:23
vader_okay first boot into Dapper OEM, what are you supposed to run?02:23
ka0zxD02:23
eXistenZfarous, lan02:23
FlannelHattori: you'll need to make a list02:23
Gaivs`CaesarHi! I wanted to say I love Ubuntu!02:23
farouseXistenZ: i do not think they are02:23
nickrudeXistenZ, by defalult, nothing is accepted02:23
eyequeueeXistenZ, no, ubuntu does not violate specifications by default02:23
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eXistenZI wonder what might cause that problem02:24
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eXistenZeyequeue, I install ubuntu server, then installed the ssh server02:24
nickrudeXistenZ, now, tnings in universe & multiverse may not be policy compliant02:24
jonessssss___can i access my windows drive from linux?02:24
farousskipmeister: you are using the property drivers not the open source ones02:24
farousyou are using fglrx02:24
loxetyany suggestions on removing a package that is very broken?02:24
platypusi get this error : dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.18_all.deb (--unpack):02:24
platypus trying to overwrite `/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_AU', which is also in package language-pack-en-base02:24
platypusdpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)02:24
platypusErrors were encountered while processing:02:24
platypus /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.18_all.deb02:24
platypusE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) when i try to dist-upgrade my dapper02:24
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platypuscan someone help ?02:24
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skipmeisterfarous, sorry, my mistake, I've installed various versions on different systems this weekend02:24
eyequeue!pastebin02:25
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .02:25
nickrudloxety, apt-get remove <package> first02:25
farous!tell platypus about pastebin02:25
loxetyI've tried reinstalling then removing.. with no success02:25
platypusops sorry02:25
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farousskipmeister: that is easier in a terminal type fireglcontrol02:25
platypusany ideas tho ?02:25
libdmbhey, anyone know the package for dist-upgrade?02:25
farousskipmeister: that is a gui that will set it to you02:25
jonscan i access my windows drive from linux?02:25
loxetywhen trying to remove the clvm package I get the following error: Starting Cluster LVM Daemon clvmd could not connect to cluster manager, Consult syslog for more information, invoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed., dpkg: error while cleaning up:,  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3, Errors were encountered while processing:,  clvm, E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:25
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eyequeue!tell libdmb about upgrade02:26
nickrudloxety, if you know the exact package name, could you post the output of sudo dpkg -r <packagename>02:26
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kdittyjons, yes you can... im having trouble doing it right now but you have to mount the drive02:26
bulltitanis there any utility to split a 2gb file into 600mb parts?02:26
farousskipmeister: you need the fglrx-control package for that by the way02:26
jonsehhh02:26
libdmbeyequeue: thats not really what im looking for02:26
pimpinnickrud, smartmontools tells me that my drive's live is expected to end in less than 24 hours, i will see if there is any hope with the HITACHI but this is an old machine so i guess i will have to get a new one :(02:26
jonsbrb let me get into linux02:26
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nickrudpimpin, well, that's what the drive is saying. I'd trust it02:26
eyequeuelibdmb, what did you mean dist-upgrade then?02:26
loxetyhow much may I paste in this channel?02:27
platypus:(02:27
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nickrudpimpin, unless I didn't care about the data02:27
eyequeueloxety, a single line is safe02:27
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tromotyhey all, can anyone help wih a problem I have with my TakeScreenshot app (gnome, Dapper)?02:27
skipmeisterfarous, I can open that ATI gui through my menus but the problem occurs when I activate the second monitor.02:27
farousloxety: not too much. i think up to two lines are ok02:27
libdmbeyequeue: oops, never mind, i thought dist-upgrade was a seperate program02:27
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kdittyanyone have a clue what i should do if i get this error on trying to browse an internal drive "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdd1""02:27
skipmeisterfarous, do I need to have libxinerama installed?02:27
nickrudloxety, putting it on paste.ubuntu-nl.org is usual02:27
farousskipmeister: after setting an extended desktop you need to logout and login again for it to take effect02:28
pimpinnickrud, no i dont really care about the data we just use this machine to use the internet and wirte some documents, nothing important02:28
eyequeuelibdmb, no, it's a parameter to apt-get typically :)02:28
libdmbyes02:28
skipmeisterfarous, I did that but then neither monitor works02:28
farousskipmeister: xinerama if you have the open source drivers. for the property you do not need that02:28
loxetynickrud: ok02:28
pimpinnickrud, but i was happy that finally i got my family to use linux...and now this :(02:28
eyequeuekditty, sudo?02:28
farousskipmeister: that is strange. how familiar you are with editing the xorg.conf files02:29
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loxetynickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1557902:29
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skipmeisterfarous, reasonably02:29
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kdittyeyequeue: i get that error from system > admin. > disks02:29
farouswould you like to see my config then02:29
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skipmeisterfarous, sure thank you02:29
MrPocketshows a kid go about changing a password on Ubuntu?02:29
farousgive me a min02:30
farousyou need an extended desktop right02:30
eyequeueMrPockets, passwd02:30
skipmeisterfarous, yes02:30
loxetyMrPockets: sudo su -02:30
loxetyMrPockets: then passwd02:30
eyequeuekditty, that asks me for my sudo password first02:30
nickrudpimpin, spin, spin. Linux warned us before the drive failed, isn't that good? :)02:30
kdittyeyequeue: when i try to browse the drive from there, it gives that error. if the drive is showing up in system>admin.>disks does that mean its mounted?02:30
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eyequeuekditty, meaning it runs as root, so the error surprises me02:31
kdittyeyequeue:  this asked for a password to see the disks but not to browse the drive02:31
MrPocketsthanks kids02:31
rodriHow do i mount my windows drive?02:31
hou5tonWhen Dapper was first released, it wouldn't finish the install ... screen would just black out .... Has that been fixed with an updated install CD?02:31
eyequeuekditty, i belive that password endures for 5 minutes02:31
shawnlhikenboot, does anybody host ftp site with proftpd?02:31
kdittyeyequeue: it does that no matter where i try to access that drive from02:32
loxetyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1558002:32
loxetythat is syslog output02:32
pimpinnickrud, yep i guess you are right...i dont think they will understand though heheh...anyway this was my first try with ubuntu and i liked it a lot, but mostly i liked that you ppl actually gave me some help when i needed it...i guess ill be visiting here more often :)02:32
farousskipmeister: tell me what type of monitors you have02:33
farousskipmeister: i have here a notebook tft screen and a crt monitor02:33
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faroushow about you02:33
nickrudpimpin, it's a nice place. #ubuntu-offtopic is a nice place as well02:33
skipmeisterfarous, 1st is the LCD on my laptop, second is a BenQ 15" LCD02:33
Sannepimpin, the drive failing after installing Ubuntu is just an unlucky coincidence  - you're aware of that, aren't you?02:33
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hikenbootshawnl, no idea02:33
shawnlhikenboot, thanks02:34
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hikenbootsorry cant be more help02:34
hou5tonWhen Dapper was first released, it wouldn't finish the install ... screen would just black out .... Has that been fixed with an updated install CD?02:34
nickrudSanne, isn't there an equiv to the smartmontools in windows? I wouldn'have a clue02:34
farousskipmeister: ok i am gona send you my monitors, graphic driver, serverlayout and screen sections02:34
skipmeisterfarous, cool02:34
dooglushou5ton: there's an updated install CD?02:34
pimpinsanne, yep i do :) i even think it was broken before i installed ubuntu because i was asked to install win again cuz it was causing so much trouble02:34
Sannenickrud, sorry, I don't know.02:35
hou5tondooglus: I don't know ... I'm asking02:35
shawnlhi, does anybody host ftp site with proftpd? i jailed the users to /home/ftp/. how do i let the users access the folders out of /home/ftp/?02:35
nickrudSanne, that's actually good, from my perspective ;{02:35
eyequeuehou5ton, dooglus. there's an "alternate" install cd02:35
dooglushou5ton: I didn't hear about it.  I doubt there is one.02:35
rodrihow do i mount my windows drive02:35
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doogluseyequeue: yes, but that was released at the same time as the desktop CD02:35
Sannepimpin, good, so all you need now is to persuade your family of that and trying Linux again on the new to buy disk :)02:35
nickrudalternate install is recommended, from what I've seen here02:35
tromotyhey guys, anyone help me with a weird error I receive in gnome in Dapper?02:35
farousskipmeister: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1558102:36
vader_Dapper OEM what are you supposed to run on the first boot?02:36
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pimpinnickrud, thanks i will try it aswell02:36
skipmeisterfarous, thanks, I'll play around and be back soon02:36
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eyequeuehou5ton, dooglus. i'd suggest that for people who can't use the other, it's worked for me02:36
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farousskipmeister: that is following the fglrx documentations so you wil see only one screen there but "horizontal" tell it you have two screens02:36
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rodrihow do i mount my windows drive02:37
kibethCan someone help me with installing libpng.so.3, I'm trying to get this game StepMania to work, but it involves a bunch of libraries I don't have, and whenever I try to get this RPM that's suppose to have it, I get errors when converting it to .deb file..02:37
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kibethError is: warning: libpng3-1.2.8-1mdk.i586.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 70771ff302:37
pimpinSanne, sure i will :)02:37
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Sannekibeth, the package should be available from the ubuntu repositories.02:37
farouskibeth: you do not install rpm02:38
Sannepimpin, good luck :)02:38
farouskibeth: you need deb files02:38
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kibethI couldn't find it on Synaptic..02:38
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farous!tell kibeth about easysource02:38
farouskibeth: you might need to enable extra repos02:39
Sannekibeth, go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for the file under "Search the contents of packages". It will tell you the name of the package to install.02:39
eyequeueFilename: pool/universe/libp/libpng/libpng3_1.2.8rel-5_all.deb02:39
eyequeuekibeth, ^^  see universe02:39
nickrudhas anyone used the http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter recently?02:39
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kibethEh? O.o; I'm new. :P02:39
eyequeue!tell kibeth about repos02:39
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kibethI'm lost..02:40
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eyequeuekibeth, do what the bot said to enable universe02:40
nickrudkibeth, read !components and !universe below for a crash course02:40
nickrud!components02:41
ubotuThe rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components02:41
nickrud!universe02:41
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.02:41
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eyequeuekibeth, then here is the file Filename: pool/universe/libp/libpng/libpng3_1.2.8rel-5_all.deb02:41
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scudis there any OSS that will open microsoft project plans?02:41
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sivaniconHow do I get .wma02:42
kibethBut where is it? O.o02:42
eyequeuekibeth, do your edits, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libpng302:42
sivaniconto play02:42
dick-richardsonMy 600m inspiron's display won't go to sleep after 5 minutes...any idea where to look for troubleshooting?02:42
kibethWhere do I edit?02:42
eyequeue!tell kibeth about repos02:42
kibethI just installed Ubuntu today..02:42
eXistenZhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/31/google_goes_desktop_linux/02:42
eyequeuekibeth, follow the instructions ubotu gave you02:43
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nickrudkibeth, read those two links I gave you, it's worth it. Answers will make a lot more sense afterwards02:43
psychiccyberfreaAfter I upgraded to dapper ndiswrapper stopped working on my machine what do I do?02:43
linux_user400354what causes routers to have problems?02:44
nickrudbad writers?02:44
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roostishawcan someone tell me how i can reinstall anyting that has to do with the gnome-keyring-manager? im having trouble with 'Error saving passphrase in keyring.  Ret=2'02:44
Discipulushow do you set suid on a program02:44
DiscipulusI remember how02:44
Discipulusbut I forget02:44
roostishawusing NM02:44
psychiccyberfreatoo many computers connected (for wireless), too much data flow, overheating... alot of things do that02:44
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rodriwhy is my mounted drive heavly ch'ed permissioned02:44
nickrudDiscipulus, sudo chmod u+s on a root owned file02:45
eXistenZeyequeue, I still don't have a clue why I cannot ping my ubuntu server box =/02:45
dick-richardsonrodri: did you specify umask=000 when you mounted it?02:45
Nexy_606newbman i was repartitioning my hard drive in the 606 installer and it failed at 13% :O02:45
roostishawcan someone tell me how i can reinstall anyting that has to do with the gnome-keyring-manager? im having trouble with 'Error saving passphrase in keyring.  Ret=2'02:45
rodrino02:45
roostishawusing NM02:45
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rodrii just did sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media02:45
stackcheeseusing network manager, how can I change my wifi connection to connect to my router via a static ip?02:45
Discipulusalright02:45
nickrudroostishaw, sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-keyring-manager ?02:45
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nickrudroostishaw, you can also add keys to the keyring individually02:46
dick-richardsonrodri: that should fix it for you02:46
roostishawor, how would i reset all keyrings?02:46
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rodriwhat do i do?02:46
rodrii just did sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media unmask=00002:46
roostishawdelete them i mean02:46
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dick-richardsonnot unmask...umask02:47
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dick-richardsonand put it before the /dev/sda102:47
Aletheshow does one make sshfs use ssh -2?02:47
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rodrihow do unmount it then?02:47
nickrudroostishaw, good question, I've seen no documentation yet02:47
wsjunioris there any tool that makes better power management? my processor is a turin 2.2 64 mobile. so it can reduce the clock to save energy. is there any tool to control that?02:47
farousrodri: and you need to mount it under the media not /media should be /media/sda for example02:47
dick-richardsonsame way, sudo umount /media02:47
Carl_2hello02:48
farousrodri: why not use pmount02:48
eyequeuerodri, umount(8)02:48
loxetyugg cant install any packages.. darn clvm..02:48
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Carl_2i need to configure kubuntu to work with a usb internet connection02:48
rodriidk02:48
Carl_2how can i do this?02:48
nickrudloxety, sudo dpkg -r clvm have you tried that?02:48
dick-richardsonrodri: pmount is a good suggestion...autofs might help, too02:49
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wsjunioris there any tool to control the clock of mobile processors to save energy?02:49
stackcheeseanyone knwo how to turn off DHCP with network manager (wifi/wpa)02:49
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kibethT.T I'm still so lost..02:49
loxetynickrud: yes and I pasted the results for you in pastebin02:49
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rodriim confused02:49
valehruumm...what the hell.... everytime i use sudo I get this: sudo: /var/run/sudo owned by uid 1000, should be uid 002:49
nickrudloxety, it must have been while I was away, could you give the link again?02:49
Ademanare there any compositioning window managers that can run on the default x server?02:49
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dick-richardsondo a google search for pmount, do another one for autofs...see if they would do what you want done02:50
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nickrudAdeman, composting by def requires a not default X server02:50
loxetynickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15579, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1558002:50
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nickruds/composting/compositing/...nah, I was right currently02:51
Ademannickrud: well how bout this then02:51
valehruummm could someone point me in the right dir of this error? sudo: /var/run/sudo owned by uid 1000, should be uid 002:51
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valehruany ideas?  cant use sudo at all..02:51
sambagirlwith the new office 20074 coming out what will be the results of open office and saving into m$ file formats?02:51
Meek-hmm anyone know why ut2004 doesnt play sound for me anymore? it was fine just recently, now no sound.  it says its using OpenAL02:51
Ademancan run on the default mesa gl02:51
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sambagirl2007 i mean02:51
wsjunioris there any tool that makes better power management? my processor is a turion 2.2 64 mobile. so it can reduce the clock to save energy. is there any tool to control that?02:52
nickrudAdeman, xgl is so broken ...02:52
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Meek-isnt office 2007 going to use xml02:52
dick-richardsonAnyone know where I should troubleshoot my laptop display issues? In power management I have the display set to sleep after it's been inactive for 5 minutes...but it doesn't02:52
sambagirli dont know?02:52
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Meek-me neither :)02:52
sambagirlmeek- they have a beta but i dont want to bother with ht.02:52
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sambagirlit.02:52
Meek-i just remember hearing that somewhere02:52
sambagirlumm is that a good thing meek-?02:52
eyequeuevalehru, boot to rescue mode, then chown root /var/run/sudo02:52
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valehruok thanks...02:52
valehrubugger..02:53
sambagirlwill this have any effect on ubuntu?02:53
Carl_2hello, again.02:53
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oemWhat's with this oem user crud in the new LTS???02:53
Carl_2i need to configure ubuntu to work with a usb internet connection.02:53
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sambagirllet me ask in linux02:53
loxetywell.. I guess I'll figure out this clvm issue another day.  off to the gym02:53
psychiccyberfreaAfter I upgraded to dapper ndiswrapper stopped working on my machine what do I do?02:53
nickrudloxety, ok, it says see /var/log/syslog for more info on why the clvm init script failed, something about the cluster mamnager02:53
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nickrudloxety, look in /var/log/syslog02:53
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oemDidn't ask for a user name, nothing...02:53
loxetynickrud: I pasted the link with syslog info02:54
linux_user400354what causes routers to have problems?02:54
eyequeueoem, seemed to hang for me02:54
nickrudloxety, erm, sorry read errror02:54
loxetynickrud: :)02:55
eyequeueoem, i changed to the text-based install and everything was fine02:55
dick-richardsonlinux_user400354: bad power from the power co, over heating, bad wiring...might help if you described the problem02:55
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linux_user400354dick-richardson, sometimes the router does not work and the reset button has to be pushed. what causes it to stop working?02:55
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nickrudloxety, at this point I'd go read /var/lib/dpkg/info/clvm.prerm and .postrm.02:56
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Meek-ugh i dont get it, ut2k4 had sound not long ago, i havent changed anything major, now sound doesnt work at all.. works everywhere else02:56
Juhazcomposite has been in your run of the mill vanilla xorg since 6.8, so it sure doesn't require non-default X server by definition02:56
oemAlready installed... guess I should just change the user name... but there was something about running some sudo command... I missed it, and it isn't evident on the wiki.... pretty dumb.02:56
nickrudloxety, but that's just a brushoff.02:56
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dick-richardsonwhen does it stop working? time of day, amount of usage, how many computers (wired and/or wireless) are connected?02:56
nickrudloxety you really should file a bug about this.02:57
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loxetynickrud: ok02:57
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judith_Sound was working then stopped suddenly! Even re-installation will not help. Anyone on Dapper?02:58
nickrudloxety, don't expect a quick answer, but if you're running a stock ubuntu, you should never see that error.02:58
eobanb!sound02:58
ubotuHelp to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary02:58
loxetynickrud: am about to head out to the gym so I guess I'll file a bug report when I get back02:58
judith_thanx02:58
loxetynickrud: what do you mean by "stock"?02:58
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eobanbloxety, fresh installation02:59
dooglusvalehru: did you change the owner of all the files on your disk to be yourself?02:59
nickrudloxety, no compiled binaries installed ever, no outside repos except maybe plf & seveas02:59
loxetynickrud: just installed a few hours ago.. installed all packages through apt-get or synaptic03:00
nickrudloxety, so that is probably a true bug.03:00
valehrudooglus, no, I only changed  them for one directory /var/www/03:01
loxetynickrud: thanks for the suggestion about filing a bug.. I would have most likely just reinstalled03:01
loxetynickrud: and hoped it didnt have the same issue :)03:01
valehruwas a pain in the ass in gnome to do everything from the console...so this is a bit easier now.....seems to be working anyhow now03:01
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ks1is there a way to lock screen without having to wait for the screensaver?03:02
nickrudloxety, reinstalling to see if you can get your system up and running is not a bad thing. Filing a bug, and living with what you have is another option :)03:02
scudsorry i got cut off before i could see an answer even if there was an answer03:02
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scuddoes anyone know of an OSS app for microsoft project files?03:02
eyequeueks1, ^A^X03:03
platypusksl , System -> Lock Screen03:03
noobuntuhi, propably here can help me someone: for the first time I am compiling my own Kernel. Actually I have the 2.6.15.23 running, but have problems with my networking device, so i downloaded the 15.22 kernel from here (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/2.6.15.22) and wanted to compile and install it. For this puprose I installed build-essential and kernel-package, copied the old config file: sudo cp /boot/config-<Kernelve03:03
noobuntursion> .config, and run sudo make-kpkg --initrd --revision 2.6.15-22.33 binary. But Compilation fails with the message: dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-source-2.6.15.6-ubuntu1 not in control info. Has anyone any sugestions whta is wrong, its very important, that i get it running during the next hour03:03
loxetynickrud: yeah reinstalling I think might be the only option.. as I cant install or remove any packages03:03
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ks1eyequeue, by default that is not there.03:03
tjsare there any very small isos that will work as a rescue disk for ubuntu?03:03
loxetynickrud: thanks, ttyl03:03
nickrudloxety, be more conservative in your install.03:03
tjsI dont want to dl an install iso just to do a rescue03:03
loxetynickrud: I thought I was hehe03:03
eyequeueks1, that's the default screen(1) keybinding03:03
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psychiccyberfreaCan anyone help me with my wireless problem?03:04
ks1this is a fresh install. gnomescreensaver is installed. I am going to install xscreensaver and see.03:04
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eyequeueks1, this does not sound like you're running screen(1)03:04
DaveyJwhats "rain" in xgl?03:05
DaveyJerr03:05
DaveyJwater03:05
ks1eyequeue, what do i need screen for?03:05
nickrudks1, System->Quit Lock Screen ?03:05
eyequeueks1, you asked how to lock the app, right?03:05
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ks1thanks nickrud . I am used to it being in the regular system menu.03:05
eyequeuescreen (1)           - screen manager with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation03:06
troytroytroy!ubotu atheros03:06
ubotutroytroytroy: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:06
nickrudks1, adapt & conquor.03:06
ks1eyequeue, I was talking about the whole desktop. thanks for the help03:06
ks1nickrud, or add to menu :)03:06
troytroytroy!ubotu wireless03:06
ubotuI guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers03:06
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ks1I will create a .desktop file.03:06
eyequeueks1, ah, gotcha03:06
kibethWhat package has the liblua.so in it?  I've installed like all the lua packages.. >>03:06
varsendaggrsdl: Couldn't open audio: No available audio device!03:06
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varsendaggrhow do i fix that    ^^^^03:06
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kibethOr how do I get that.03:06
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nickrudks1, if you'd publish it, it's gonna get asked again03:07
ks1okay03:07
SAM_themanbrb going onto windows cause my sis wants to download thingas from itunes with her $15 dollar card03:07
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SAM_themanok...03:07
mcpowleyhey guys, I have a small problem. I'm using an audigy card for my notebook and so far everything is perfect, perfect 5.1 sound, everythign. The only problem is that when I go to youtube and try to watch a video...no sound comes out. I get the video but no sound, anyone know what the problem could ble?03:08
nickrudkibeth, install the apt-file package, it'll look file names like that for you and tell you the package you need03:08
loanwolf? how do i install nvidia-linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run....from nvidia03:08
Sannekibeth, packages.ubuntu.com, section "Search the contents of packages"03:08
RadiantFirequick question, can totem handle dvd menu navigation?03:08
dick-richardsonbash nvidia-linux.....03:08
fiveironhrmrm.... anyone using ufs?03:08
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mcpowleyalso, I have the mplayer plugin for firefox and it plays wmvs and mov files with sound03:08
mcpowleybut youtube, no sound.03:09
starseedRadiantFire: yah03:09
fiveironyoutube is flash03:09
loanwolfdick-richardson, in comandline or terminal03:09
RadiantFirestarseed: totem-gstreamer?03:09
fiveironi have the same problem with flash not playing sound03:09
fiveironnot sure how to fix it03:09
RadiantFireor totem-xine?03:09
dick-richardsonloanwolf: either should work03:09
loanwolfok03:09
starseedmcpowley: youtube uses flash , which uses oss, so you need to make sure nothing else is using the sound when you load it03:09
dick-richardsonterminal probably better03:09
nickrudbest flash sound issues resolution so far is on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:09
starseedRadiantFire: xine03:09
RadiantFiremmm, thought so03:10
starseedyah, I don't think gstreamer does .. but I know xine for sure03:10
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RadiantFiregstreamer doesn't to the best of my knowledge03:10
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troytroytroyhi i need reliable driver for my wireless nic atheros 5005G03:10
nickrudgstreamer has no dvd right now, it missed dapper03:11
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RadiantFirenickrud: so gstreamer will actually be able to do dvd for edgy?03:11
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eyequeuewhat is used for dvd in dapper?03:11
nickrudRadiantFire, heh. I don't right software, I just use. I hope it will be03:12
nickrudeyequeue, totem-xine03:12
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eyequeuenickrud, thanks03:12
mcpowleystarseed: So, basically i exit out of anything that would use sound? I'm slightly confused, sorry03:12
ekpmsg NickServ IDENTIFY woodyard03:12
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mikedhi i was wondering if someone could help me figure out an issue i'm having with my hard drives (raid, mounting, formatting, etc)03:12
nickrudeyequeue, not bad, ony a few cd's I needed mplayer for03:12
troytroyhi i need reliable driver for my wireless nic atheros 5005G03:12
dick-richardsonekp: that's probably no good :P03:12
eyequeueekp, time for a pw change eh?03:12
fiveironnickrud, thank you that worked perfectly!03:13
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starseedmcpowley: yah, you need to make sure nothing else is using sound (movie playing, listening to mp3, etc)03:13
ekpeyequeue>: yeah I always screw it up03:13
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nickrudeyequeue, actally, totem-xine did a lot better than mplayer03:13
ekpnot a big deal03:13
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starseedmcpowley: flash is a sore spot in linux .. the new version should be much better03:13
ejvalles1980What would be a good set up to have Compiz and Xgl running?03:13
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nickrudfiveiron, toem-xine? (guessing)03:14
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troytroyhi i need reliable driver for my wireless nic atheros wireless AR5005G03:14
fiveironnickrud, oh sorry, no, the flash sound not working03:14
fiveiron:-P03:14
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roostishawis it safe to resize an ubuntu partition from the live cd?03:14
psychiccyberfreaCan anyone help me with my wireless problem?03:14
nickrudfiveiron, ah, good. Another data point saying it's good :)03:14
ejvalles1980fiveron: I had that fixed03:14
mikedi'm trying to format a RAID 1 set with ext3, and i'm not sure how to tell if the operations i do on one drive are occuring on both03:14
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NoWhereToTurnCan Ubuntu be installed in one partition plus a swap partition?03:15
eyequeueNoWhereToTurn, yes03:15
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troytroyhi i need reliable driver for my wireless nic atheros wireless AR5005G03:15
dick-richardsonNoWhereToTurn: but it's not a bad idea to have a separate /home partition03:15
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nickrudNoWhereToTurn, that is the definition of a linux install, but see dick-richardson03:15
roostishawwhat is the risk that im going to lose any data while resizing an ubuntu partition on my HDD?03:16
troytroyhi i need help setting up my wireless nic "Atheros wireless AR5005G"03:16
psychiccyberfreamake sure the /home part is on a journaling part if you do that03:16
roostishawme?03:16
psychiccyberfrealike ext3 or ext203:16
NoWhereToTurneyequeue what size should the partition be? ext3?03:16
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roostishawpsychiccyberfrea, me?03:16
philippehi who knows anjuta03:16
P3L|C4N0greetings03:16
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intelikeypsychiccyberfrea ?03:16
ejvalles1980Hi Pelicano03:17
psychiccyberfrearoostishaw: no03:17
roostishawpsychiccyberfrea, oh, sorry.03:17
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psychiccyberfrearoostishaw: its ok03:17
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eyequeueNoWhereToTurn, i'd go with the defaults, if in doubt03:17
loanwolfhow do i boot in command line..03:17
Mewshican i turn on a microphone from the command line?03:17
psychiccyberfreaintelikey: what's popin?03:17
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intelikeypsychiccyberfrea journaling  like ext3 or ext2 ??03:17
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NoWhereToTurneyequeue this is on a drive with other O/S on it03:17
roostishawanyone, what is the risk that im going to lose any data while resizing an ubuntu partition on my HDD? and i want to make a seperate partition for my home folder... how do i do that?03:17
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ejvalles1980Boot how?03:18
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AdmiralCrunchanyone here use Gnome with Thunar instead of Nautilus?03:18
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loanwolfboot into command line..no xserver03:18
psychiccyberfreaintelikey: yeah not something like fat32 or fat16 that won't work I've tried03:18
eyequeueNoWhereToTurn, well, decide how much you want to allocate to each os first i guess03:18
intelikeypsychiccyberfrea ext2 has no journal  ext3 is ext2 with a journal...03:18
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nickrudAdmiralCrunch, no, but I'd be interested in someones' experiences03:18
psychiccyberfreaintelikey: oh whoops03:18
intelikey:)03:19
psychiccyberfreayou get what I men03:19
eyequeueNoWhereToTurn, and yes ext3 would be a good choice03:19
psychiccyberfrea*mean03:19
AdmiralCrunchnickrud, yea, thats what I am wondering too, I am trying to see if I can do it without many complications03:19
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EnterUbuntuDistrhi03:19
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psychiccyberfreaCan anyone help me with my wireless problem?03:19
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EnterUbuntuDistris tehre a similiar problem with MP3s and playing them in bunutu03:19
Yoosahroostishaw: you can with (qt)parted03:19
sambagirlhow do you list the channels you created in irc?03:19
EnterUbuntuDistrliek suse where it doesntl ike mp3s?03:19
AdmiralCrunch!mp303:19
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ubotumethinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:19
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EnterUbuntuDistrthank you03:19
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Bassettswhen will edgy be ok to install?03:19
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roostishawYoosah, is that the same thing as gparted?03:20
pol3rhello03:20
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loanwolfcan anyone tell me how to boot into command line...trying to install nvidia driver from nvidia site..it dont want xserver running03:20
NoWhereToTurnSO one needs a / /root and /home correct?03:20
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psychiccyberfreaif you have some other OSes on there yes03:20
AdmiralCrunchroostishaw, qtparted is the same as gparted, just with GTK03:21
Bassettsrootishaw: qtparted and gparted are pretty much the same03:21
AdmiralCrunchwell, pretty much03:21
Yoosahroostishaw: they're both gui's for parted03:21
coderipperanybody had luck with splashy on dapper?03:21
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ejvalles1980Wht is the problem with your Wireless ???03:21
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intelikeyNoWhereToTurn / is required. all else is optional03:21
fiveironwhat would need to be done to recompile ufs support to be able to mount a volume read/write?03:21
_-Ghosst-_hm03:21
coderippermust have corrupted my kernel after installation.03:21
nickrudAdmiralCrunch, you'll need to turn off nautilus's control of the desktop to start with, probably by using the System->Prefs>Sessions dialog03:21
pol3rcan someone help me with ndiswrapper?03:21
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mikedBy default, is there a hotkey to open a terminal window?03:21
NoWhereToTurnany minimum req for /root and /home?03:21
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psychiccyberfreaI need help too with ndiswrapper03:21
NoWhereToTurnfor Dapper03:21
roostishawYoosah, so... which is better? and do i need to do this from a live cd, or can i do it while im running ubuntu?03:21
psychiccyberfreapol3r: what's the prob03:21
nickrudmiked, no there is not03:21
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mike1wireless problem, I pulled a crappy card out my box and installed ths cheap wireless card that worked out of the box in Breezy.  Now with a fresh server install iwconfig shows the card but I can't enable it with ifup....03:22
deshantmhey, does anybody know a good program that will keep track of the files created by a make install when installing a program from source?03:22
pol3rI am trying to install it and when i type make i get an error. it says "can't find kernel build files.."03:22
Yoosahroostishaw: you can't edit a mounted partition03:22
mikednickrud: whereabouts would the hotkey configuration be in gnome?03:22
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn about 18m /root and 24m /home  minimum03:22
_jasonubotu: tell deshantm about checkinstall03:22
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Yoosahroostishaw: backupping is recommended ofcourse03:22
roostishawYoosah, so... i do need to do it from the live cd?03:22
pol3ri did an apt-get build-esentials03:23
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_-Ghosst-_anyone know a way to get ubuntu on a boot floppy  so i can install it on a dell latitude Lxpi m166st ?03:23
AdmiralCrunchnickrud, I am about to restart x, wish me luck :p03:23
mikednickrud: nevermind, i tried looking all by myself, and found it! imagine that...03:23
deshantm_jason, thanks a lot03:23
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Yoosahroostishaw: that should do the trick :)03:23
psychiccyberfreapol3r: so ndiswrapper is up but you can't use the card?03:23
mike1how do I enable eth1???  adding info to  /etc/network/interfaces isn't helping03:23
intelikeyNoWhereToTurn by default you will never add to /root so 100m is plenty for that.03:23
Yoosahmike1: ifup eth103:23
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james_xxxoff topic question... what is the diff between fedora core 5 and fedora core 5 and fedora 2.1.1?03:24
pol3rpsychiccyberfrea:  no, i cant even install it03:24
roostishawYoosah, ok... one last q: can gparted resize ext3? and what filesystem should i use for the new home partition?03:24
james_xxxsorry for the typo03:24
psychiccyberfreapol3r: with a package manager?03:24
inonoI installed glade-doc how do I access the docs now?03:24
pol3r_-Ghosst-_: put dsl on it and dl ubuntu03:24
_jasonjames_xxx: the fedora channel may be more informative03:24
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Yoosahroostishaw: i like ext3, had no troubles with it sofar03:24
psychiccyberfreapol3r: there is a setup that you have to go through it's in the wiki03:24
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pol3rpsychiccyberfrea: no, im trying to type make,03:25
pol3rand it gives me an error03:25
nickrudmiked, I have <super>t defined in gconf editor, /apps/metacity/keybinding_comamands/command_1 gnome-terminal, and /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_1 as <Super>t03:25
pol3rthis is my first install with ubuntu03:25
pol3rbtw03:25
pianoboy3333I really, really need hard drive help, I'm desperate, please please, can someone help me? I think I mortally screwed my ubuntu partition, I meant to install xubuntu on an external, but it seems to have installed over my main partition, Fujitsu was helping me before and we had started using autopsy to try, but he had to leave, so I need someone else to help finish! I really, really need extreme help03:25
psychiccyberfreapol3r: the deb is way better use a package manager03:25
james_xxx_jason: i know, but you have to be a registered user and i have not done that yet lol03:25
ejvalles1980What would be a good set up to have Compiz and Xgl running?03:25
pol3ri have no internet03:25
pol3runtil ndiswrapper03:25
_jasonjames_xxx: you know how or want a link with some info?03:25
psychiccyberfreapol3r: use synaptic package manager not that weird "add programs" thing03:25
mike1ndiswrapper is on the install cd03:26
pol3rooh03:26
pol3rooh03:26
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pol3rok ill try that03:26
Yoosahroostishaw: i just found out last week, my /home was too small, so i made another partition smaller and created an ext3 there, there are some good howto's on moving your /home03:26
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pol3rso i need to put the cd in then?03:26
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psychiccyberfreapol3r: make sure the CD is in, you also have to edit some files if you want to use online repositories03:26
mike1you'll have to try a number of INF files with ndiswrapper until it works.... read the man page03:26
acke_hey  i have dapper(6.10) how can i see which Xfree86 version i have installed? do oyu know which is the default?03:26
roostishawYoosah, hm... im looking at the one on the ubuntu blog...03:26
intelikeymoving /home needs a howto ???03:27
psychiccyberfreapol3r: don't do that now though03:27
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pol3rthe second part?03:27
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loanwolf? Can anyone tell me how to boot unbuntu into run level 3 or what ever level it is for comand line03:27
pol3r"edit some files.." right?03:27
psychiccyberfreapol3r: just put the CD in for now. Launch synaptic, hit ctrl +F, type ndis, and it should come up03:27
inonoI installed a documentation package for glade2, but how do I accesss the documentation ?03:28
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pol3rcool03:28
pol3rits going03:28
eyequeueloanwolf, there's no runlevel nonsense for that by default in ubuntu03:28
acke_how do I check XFree86 version??03:28
intelikeyloanwolf there is not a runlevel for command line on default ubuntu.   just killall gdm03:28
pol3rbut question, what do i need to do to get my make command to work?03:28
eyequeueloanwolf, just disable gdm03:28
Bassettspol3r sudo apt-get install build-essential03:29
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eyequeueloanwolf, man update-rc.d if you want to create something of that sort though03:29
loanwolfhow do i disable it03:29
intelikeythat is another 'bug' in ubuntu imo03:29
_jasoninono: it is probably in /usr/share/doc/glade*  but check with dpkg -L name_of_package03:29
pol3rBassetts: thx. i did that once. do i need to do it again?03:29
intelikeyloanwolf like i said    sudo killall gdm03:29
Bassettsshouldnt have to pol3r03:29
acke_am I even running XFree86???03:30
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eyequeueloanwolf, /etc/init.d/gdm stop, for one-time, or update-rc.d for permanent03:30
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pol3rmabye there was an error or something03:30
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pol3rgod this is so much better that ms any day :)03:30
inono_jason: thanks found it03:31
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pol3rok, so now what do i do?03:31
pol3rits all installed03:31
psychiccyberfreapol3r: just use debs or a package manager from now on most apps are in the repositories03:31
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intelikeyacke_ not on default ubuntu you aren't.    xorg03:31
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psychiccyberfreapol3r: there's a wiki entery just type in 'ndiswrappersetuphowto" in search03:31
psychiccyberfreapol3r:lemmie look it up quick03:32
|_ockexorg uses dri doesnt it?03:32
intelikey!ndiswarper03:32
ubotuintelikey: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:32
intelikey!ndiswarpper03:32
ubotuintelikey: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:32
psychiccyberfreahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?action=show&redirect=SetupNdiswrapperHowto03:32
acke_intelikey, okay, my issue is that i cant change my screen res. so maybe I should install XFree86 so that I can run the drivers for ATI radeon??!03:32
_jasonheh03:32
intelikeyacke_ there is a "good" wiki on ati03:33
intelikey!ati03:33
ubotu[ati]  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers03:33
Arafangionacke_, Using Ubuntu 5.10, I had no problems using hte commercial driver from ATI.03:33
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acke_intelikey okay im gonna check their wiki03:34
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siriustest03:35
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ChetwinHow's everyone's luck with the bcm43xx?  Still a 60/40?  Or have there been any breakthroughs?03:36
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cafuegoChetwin: All my 4306-es work fine.03:36
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ChetwinI've got 431803:36
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ChetwinIt's a ba$tard03:36
cafuegoToo bad03:36
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ChetwinCard will light up and see networks, but wont connect03:36
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ChetwinSo here  am, friggin windows03:37
cafuegondiswrapper03:37
Chetwinndiswrapper isn't reliable03:37
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ChetwinI can make it work in suse03:37
ChetwinBut not ubuntu03:37
ConstyChetwin: Working fine for me.03:37
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ConstyChetwin: Might be your drivers having a specific problem with the version that comes with ubuntu03:38
pol3rarg! now my card isn't even showing up!03:38
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pol3ribbok03:38
pol3ribook03:38
ChetwinHmmm03:39
tux0010when i boot from the cd of dapper, i type "rescue" for boot:03:39
cafuegonickrud: If you want cheap, go an acer.03:39
nickrudnaw, gotta have i38603:39
tux0010but it doesn't work03:39
tux0010says no such image03:39
ChetwinI've tried the dell and hp drivers03:39
tux0010please can anyone help?03:39
nickrudcheap, working, bugging not this channel03:39
ChetwinI am destined to be trapped with windows03:39
Constynickrud: You know a Jess?03:40
nickrudcafuego, heh. I03:40
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nickrud'll look closely03:40
cafuegonickrud: all LUV (luv.asn.au) geeks seem to either have IBMs or Acers.03:40
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BassettsAcer FTW03:40
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fcaliseAnyone have a link to a tutorial for setting up suspending  a laptop for dapper?03:40
krazykitConsty: a 4318?  ndiswrapper is better for that, imo.  you have to rmmod the bcm48xx drivers03:40
pol3rshit,the fucking power went out!03:40
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krazykitpol3r: language, dude03:40
pol3rsrry03:41
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tux0010anyone know how i can fix the bootloader (grub)?03:41
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Bassetts=O what a fool mouth =P03:41
krazykittux0010: depends.  what's wrong with it?03:41
Chetwinkrazykit: 4318 here too.  Will see networks and lights up, but no connection03:41
tux0010i can't use "rescue" on the cd for some reason03:41
pol3rhey i g2g im ont my neigbor network and he wouldn't like it ;)03:41
harryhow do i get to fix the failed to start x server??03:41
nickrudcafuego, geek, as in wanna get things working now, or nerds, as in expend whatever time needed?03:41
JohnsonEi know this isn't the best place to ask, but XMMS is deciding that it can't play MP3s today. it could the other day.. it says to check my soundcard but sound works in other applications03:41
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tux0010krazykit: winblows erased the mbr03:41
harryi always ended up installing ubuntu again again.03:41
dick-richardsonAnyone know where I should troubleshoot my laptop display issues? In power management I have the display set to sleep after it's been inactive for 5 minutes...but it doesn't03:41
BHSPitLappydoes ubuntu have good facilities for wireless?03:41
cafuegonickrud: As in: Linux works on it just fine and doesn't cost too much.03:41
_jasonJohnsonE: check it is using the right output plugin03:41
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JohnsonEok gotta find the options for that..03:42
krazykittux0010: ah.  this is easily fixable.  it takes some muckity-muck with the command line though.  i don't remember the exact steps, but it involves chroot.  i guarantee it's on the forums03:42
krazykit!mbr03:42
ubotukrazykit: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:42
Bassettsanyone know why the usplash howto doesnt work in dapper?03:42
cafuegonickrud: Most are linux geeks (as in: coders) but most _also_ can't be bothered needing to fiddle with too much stuff to make 'em work.03:42
Chetwinkrazykit: 4318 here too.  Will see networks and lights up, but no connection any ideas?03:42
nickrudcafuego, a prime recommendation03:42
krazykitChetwin: using the native driver or ndiswrapper?03:42
benoitfcalise: recompile ton kernel avec suspend203:42
Chetwinndiswrapper03:42
tux0010krazykit, yea :) chroot /dev/hdax && grub-install /dev/hdax03:42
tux0010thats what i have been doing for years03:42
Constytux0010: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows03:42
krazykittux0010: yep.  you can use any livecd03:42
tux0010but for some reason doesn't work in dapper03:42
ChetwinActually both03:43
krazykitubotu: mbr is  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows03:43
cafuegoJust make sure you get yourself a higher end battery, so it'll run for ages03:43
ubotukrazykit: okay03:43
CokeNCodewhat's the command to run a program from the terminal, but not have the terminal window stick around after  ?03:43
JohnsonE_jason: my output plugin is set to ALSA03:43
intelikeyharry  know your monitor refresh rates ? (http://monitorworld.com)    then    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg      <--- set it up correctly and it will work.03:43
cafuegoCokeNCode: programname & exit03:43
ConstyCokeNCode: The name of the executable and then a space and a &.. so example ./program &03:43
tux0010Consty, thanks03:43
CokeNCodecafuego,  much thanks03:43
harryWhen i installed the nvidia drivers. after pressing ctrl-alt-backspace. after that i cant log in to my gui03:43
CokeNCodethanks Consty03:43
krazykitChetwin: well, i use ndiswrapper exlusively.  did you use the drivers from your windows install / driver cd?03:44
BHSPitLappydoes the Alternate CD install differently than the Live installer? (As in, -what- gets installed, not the interface)03:44
sladenBassetts: do you have a custom kernel?03:44
BHSPitLappye.g. Gnome03:44
intelikeyharry why ctrl+alt+bs ?03:44
Bassettssladen, no i have 686-smp installed from the repo03:44
harryintelikey: i was just like in the black screen terminal. i have no other alternatives besides to install again03:44
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harryintelikey: yes03:44
WhatTheDeuce Hey.  How do I redirect stderr to stdout?03:44
cafuegoCokeNCode: See also Alt+F203:44
rendoWhen burning the .iso do you burn it as a data or boot disc?03:44
krazykitrendo: burn it as a cd image03:44
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mudtubsounds right03:45
rendoThank you.03:45
cafuegorendo: Right click the iso and select 'Burn to disc'03:45
mudtubhe's gone03:45
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harryintelikey: thats what the wiki said from the wiki for invidia03:45
cafuego't was a dumb nero question anyway03:45
CokeNCodecafuego, .... ahhh . i was trying to find that ... plus i can't figure out where the "run as another user" went with 6.0603:45
mudtubof course03:45
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Bassettsyou really miss installing from a live cd when you have to install windows vista, takes so long, compared to 10 mins to install dapper03:45
kibethIs there a way that I can add all the repositories, just to make things easier for searching?  Please PM me on to do this.03:45
intelikeyharry   did you try    sudo rm $HOME/.*auth* && startx    ?03:45
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harryintelikey: no03:45
tux0010get errors such as disk does not exist03:45
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NoWhereToTurngetting an error trying to create a ext3 partition.. saying that file  system was not cleanly unmounted03:46
krazykitubotu: tell kibeth about repos03:46
harryintelikey: right now i'm upgrading again to dapper03:46
Where|hereI am trying to set up apache2. I can access it on my computer, but nobody else can access it. Does anyone know what I might be doing wrong?03:46
sladenharry: press control-alt-F103:46
_jasonubotu: tell kibeth about repos03:46
harryintelikey: i only have a breezy badger install cd03:46
schalkendoes anyone know where the mouse preferences are stored?03:46
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mudtubyes03:46
NoWhereToTurnPrior Ubuntu was deleted03:46
Bassettssladen: i followed the forum post about usplash and when i restart i get no usplash03:46
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intelikeyharry yeah. i only have hoary cd.03:46
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drummer87hey everybody.. i need some help with my wifi connection. I had it working with wpa_supplicant yesterday, but it suddenly dropped the connection and i haven't been able to reconnect since.03:46
cafuegowell, not to alt+F403:46
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tux0010worked :) thanks a ton Consty03:47
harryintelikey: hav u ever experience the same thing. not being able tol log in graphically03:47
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Constytux0010: np03:47
tux0010btw, anyone tried ubuntu on a macbook pro?03:47
nickrudschalken, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and System->Prefs->Mouse03:47
farouswhat might cause thumbnails to fail recently, it used to work before, when i login remotly to my server?03:47
CaptainMorganin Kubuntu, how do I view or add a local network?03:47
sladenBassetts: so you've done a custom usplash?03:47
CaptainMorganin Network Folders, it doesn't seem to bet here03:47
CaptainMorganthere03:47
Bassettssladen: i used the on in the forum post03:47
sladentux0010: Ubuntu will work.  it's currently not possible to *install* it though03:47
sladenBassetts: so you've done a custom usplash?03:48
schalkennickrud: yes, I'm talking about the user's ones, I'm trying to reset them, so i need an actual file to replace.03:48
NoWhereToTurnWHy is the install complaining about an non clean unmounted file system?03:48
Bassettssladen: i used the one in the forum post03:48
tux0010sladen, i see.....wouldn't it work under bootcamp? i mean the new firmware update adds a bios module03:48
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intelikeyharry i normally don't use a gui anyway.  but in answer to your question, yes.  normally the answer is get xorg setup correctly  or else  remove the authority files that you have missowned in your home dir.03:48
schalkennickrud: user's preferences, I mean03:48
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harryintelikey: after seeing all the error message, its says X server is turned off already. restart GDM when i configured it X server properly. after that i dont know what to do anymore03:48
nickrudschalken, k, a sec03:48
sladenBassetts: is that a "yes, I have a custom usplash" ?03:48
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tux0010and then we can simply install grub to the root partitoin of the linux drive and then use the efi bootloader to boot from that partition?03:48
ejvalles1980I have my system running great.. on Breezy, is it really worth it to Update???03:49
Bassettssladen: yes, one thats attached to the forum post, not one i have made03:49
sladentux0010: hahahhaha.03:49
tux0010i would try it but my mbp has been fscked up 5 times03:49
farouslol dapper is the silver shine ver of ubuntu. seems i am used only to rusty old breezy where everything worked with no hastle03:49
Constyejvalles1980: very worth it.03:49
sladentux0010: in Bootcamp mode you don't get EFI03:49
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tux0010i am gonna go get it exchanged for the 6th time tomorrow03:49
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tux0010yea i know03:49
nicolas_how do i create a permanent proxy, socks4 or 5 ?03:49
harryintelikey: so the best thing i did was to reinstall breezy and upgrade again to dapper03:49
tux0010i meant the firmware update03:49
tux0010b/c bootcamp is nothing but an assistant03:49
sladentux0010: in Mactel mode, you don't get to boot off anything except HFS+03:49
Bassettssladen: but when i try and use it, i get no usplash03:49
drummer87I'm using ndiswrapper 1.17 and the version of wpa in dapper (4.8.3 i think). I didn't change any settings i can remember since it stopped working and have no idea why it has03:49
kibethWhat's the repository file location?03:49
drummer87any hints would be appreciated03:49
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sladenBassetts: have you done   sudo update-initramfs $(uname -r)   ?03:49
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farouskibeth: /etc/apt/sources.list03:50
harryintelikey: it took me half a day just to setup things  i wanted. and after that what a waste03:50
kibethThanks.03:50
eyequeue!repos03:50
garlaxelWhere can I find the min specs for Dapper? I'm would like to install it on a PII 350 is thats poss...03:50
_jasonkibeth: /etc/apt/sources.list03:50
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.03:50
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sladenBassetts: have you done   sudo update-initramfs -u  $(uname -r)   even?03:50
farouskibeth: use synaptic it is much easier03:50
drummer87i also have another (this) comp connected w/ wpa, so the router is working03:50
intelikeyharry yes after you reconfigure x  do  "startx "  or   "sudo gdm "     startx is better for that because you can watch for errors.03:50
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ejvalles1980I have my system running great.. on Breezy, is it really worth it to Update???03:50
sladengarlaxel: it'll work, if you have lots of Memory, otherwise you'll want Xubuntu which is XFCE based03:50
Bassettsno sladen03:50
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farousejvalles1980: no no no no no03:50
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Bassettsdidnt tell me to in the forum post03:50
sladenintelikey: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start03:50
Arafangionejvalles1980, By your own admission, it's running great.  Why bother changing it?03:50
CokeNCodewhat software can I use to burn an ISO on ubuntu ?03:51
intelikeysladen same as sudo gdm03:51
NoWhereToTurnCan some help?03:51
sladenBassetts: try that command03:51
sladenintelikey: no, it's not03:51
ejvalles1980farous: I feel like I'm lagging behind03:51
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Bassettsok sladen, give me a minute, got vista installing in a vm03:51
Bassettstaking longer than i expected03:51
krazykitCokeNCode: i think you can right-click on the iso in nautilus and have it burn, but i like k3b03:51
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nickrudschalken, I'm looking over gconf-editor, it contains all the user gnome settings.03:51
intelikeysladen what ever you think man.03:51
ejvalles1980arafangion: I just feel like I'm missing on a few things03:51
harryintelikey: is that the command for fixing the errors. "startx" or "sudo gdm" on the black terminal screen???03:51
JohnsonEok my music problem was solved by a reboot03:51
JohnsonEbut new question:03:51
farousejvalles1980: better lag behind a week or month or two than waste your time chasing bugs03:51
drummer87can noone help meee??03:51
nickrudschalken, that's a question I haven't encountered yet03:52
MoNkUnClEdo we all have voice in here,i have a question?03:52
farousejvalles1980: lol try debian to know the real meaning of lagging behind ;)03:52
Arafangionejvalles1980, What are you missing?03:52
JohnsonEI saved the html from my windows firefox bookmarks. can I just copy this into the linux firefox directory and havee all my bookmarks back?03:52
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intelikeyharry no that is the command for starting the x server after you get it set up03:52
ejvalles1980farous: have you tried it? what are the features?03:52
Arafangionfarous, I run debian stable on most of my systems, it's not too bad.03:52
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sladenintelikey: if you read  /etc/init.d/gdm  you'll see the other setup that is done and things like the pidfile creation, which are important for being able to stop the daemon03:52
harryintelikey: how do i get it setup first???03:52
krazykitJohnsonE: yep03:52
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farousejvalles1980: to make sure a package is stable it needs long time of testing03:52
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ejvalles1980arafangion: better Usb support? my wireless card working out of the box again??03:52
JohnsonEok! now to find the firefox directory..03:52
krazykitJohnsonE: the profile is in ~/.mozilla/firefox/somerandomsstuff03:53
intelikeyharry i sujest  startx03:53
schalkennickrud: woow there are a few gconf files03:53
farousejvalles1980: so most of the time ubuntu is newer debian is stble as a rook03:53
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jbroomedear dapper: orinoco support would be great, thanks03:53
intelikeysladen yeah ok.03:53
inonoHow can I install all monodoc packages? I can't find "Mono Debugger" or "C# Compiler Error Reference"03:53
ejvalles1980arafangion: well if it is caleld Long Term Support.. why is there a new released scheduled03:53
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ejvalles1980?03:53
Arafangionejvalles1980, I have neither of those problems.  Try the live-cd, if it works better, then give it a go.03:53
NoWhereToTurnIts telling to do e2fsck but I dont know why!03:53
tux0010would ya'll recommend easyubuntu or automatix?03:53
sladenjbroome: The orinoco cards are very widely used;  can you please file a bug if you have a particular variaty of card that isn't working out of the box  (eg. there are some new copies from China which claim to to be Orinoco, but which aren't)03:54
ejvalles1980arafangion: well my flight 5 worked ok... I had wireless suport from get go03:54
CokeNCodetux0010, easyubuntu03:54
farousArafangion: i know it all depend on what you need it for :)03:54
nickrudschalken, gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /desktop/peripherals/mouse/03:54
schalkennickrud: i think i found it! ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/%gconf.xml03:54
ejvalles1980farous: what would you do?03:54
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CokeNCode!tell tux0010 about automatix03:54
ejvalles1980farous: no go on the install?03:54
nickrudschalken, yup03:54
Arafangionfarous, Heh, indeed.  Heck, I'm planning on migrating back to Debian Sarge on my ubuntu machine.03:54
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jbroomesladen: i'll doublecheck launchpad, but i think it's a known issue.  the card i have is fairly old (still marked Lucent), and worked fine with breezy03:54
harryintelikey: startx? to start configuring???03:54
schalkennickrud: does that command reset it?03:55
farousejvalles1980: the devil i know is better than the saint i do not. this is my new point ;)03:55
Dr_Geekautomatix is pure evil03:55
ejvalles1980farous: I wanna install a lot of new stuff... so I'll biuld a whole new pc then...03:55
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intelikeyharry  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:55
Arafangionfarous, But only because ubuntu frustrates me sometimes - it's too dang integrated into gnome!  If I use another manager, I loose all the keyboard bindings, etc.03:55
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CokeNCodeDr_Geek, what's so bad about it anyway ?03:55
NoWhereToTurnhas anyone else seen the dapper install complain about an uncleanly mounted file system?03:55
ejvalles1980farous: well to tell you the truth... I updated from Hoary jus about 3 month ago03:55
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harryintelikey: why did i got the errors well in fact i just followed what the wiki said correctly?03:55
MoNkUnClEi am trying to do a dualboot but i have no floppy?03:56
Dr_Geektry to remove automatix from your system03:56
Arafangionfarous, My main issue with ubuntu is the automatic kernel upgrades.03:56
ejvalles1980arafangion: but I want to set up compiz and xgl03:56
nickrudschalken, you found the right file. but deleting it is not sufficent while gnome's gconfd is running03:56
CokeNCodeDr_Geek, :/  uh oh ...03:56
harryintelikey: is that gonna work even without me connecting to the internet??03:56
farousArafangion: you can stop that03:56
FlannelArafangion: what's automatic about it?03:56
farousArafangion: i use aptitude in there is keep option03:56
ArafangionFlannel, The fact that it's always trying to do so.03:56
WhatTheDeuceI want to start learning how to use OpenGL, but I'm having troubles getting started.  I can't find a good tutorial, or even figure out what I need to install to get OpenGL working.  Does anyone have any suggestions03:56
ejvalles1980farous: what about the new release...03:57
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FlannelArafangion: only when there are fixes, you're not forced to install them though03:57
sladenjbroome: can you making sure you either add a comment to an existing bug report, or file a new one03:57
intelikeyharry i don't know why you got 'the error'   nor  'what error'       and yes you can reconfigure any install package at any time.03:57
Arafangionfarous, imho, once a working kernel is in place, it should not be touched again.03:57
schalkennickrud, i was thinking i would just shutdown X and replace the file with root's03:57
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FlannelArafangion: including whatever holes are in it?03:57
garlaxelI have a PII 266 with 328MB ram 3.5Gig Maxtor HDD, The Dapper install Locks up when Mounting root file system.. any ideas?03:57
sladenWhatTheDeuce: openGL will work out of the box03:57
Arafangionfarous, Also, ubuntu's lilo support is a joke.03:57
ejvalles1980farous: edgy eft ...03:57
_jasonArafangion: if you remove linux-image-386 (or whatever arch you use) you won't get them03:57
farousejvalles1980: i miss breezy. i know dapper is great but needs lots of tweeking and i do not have time anymore03:57
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sladenWhatTheDeuce: you can get the development headers with   sudo apt-get install libgl-dev libglu-dev03:57
Elektrochelovekhow to dissable  kernel modules from loadint at boot time on dapper?03:57
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schalkennickrud: or maybe i dont even need to shutdown X03:58
Arafangion_jason, Perhaps, but if I have to do configuration just to get ubuntu to behave more like my debian, I might as well just run debian.03:58
sladenWhatTheDeuce: but if you want to start off with Python/OpenGL (probably the easist way to learn), then everything you need is already installed03:58
intelikeyElektrochelovek blacklist03:58
nickrudgconftool -2 --recursive-unset  /apps/desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse should be sufficent, and show in gconf-editor03:58
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krazykitoooh, new kernel patchset :-D03:58
nickrudschalken, ^^03:58
sladenArafangion: the hope is that you have to do less configuration.  If something (eg. hardware) does not work out-of-the box, then that is a bug and needs to be filed in the bug tracker03:58
FlannelArafangion: right, but what's wrong with voluntary bugfixes for the kernel?03:58
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sladenArafangion: can you please file a bug report describing the problem that makes "Ubuntu's lilo support a joke".  We'd love to get hat fixed03:59
ArafangionFlannel, The fact that it messes up my custom modules, and never misses an opportunity to seriously mess up lilo?03:59
_jasonArafangion: yes :)03:59
farousejvalles1980: hmm one here told me you can backup the sys so if you do not like what you get you can always restore. do not know how this work with you but i do not have the space and never tried it03:59
WhatTheDeucesladen: Thanks.  I love Python, but I really need to learn more C (or C++).03:59
nickrudArafangion, why are you still using lilo?03:59
Arafangionnickrud, Because, as nice as grub is, it's fundamentally limited.04:00
sladenWhatTheDeuce: learn OpenGL with python and it'll be easier to try things out;  but there's lots of examples in C04:00
ejvalles1980farous: i'll go drapper when I set up my new pc... thanks for your insights...04:00
FlannelArafangion: voluntary updates mess things up?  Just don't update the kernel, remove your meta package, you won't be asked for updates.04:00
Arafangionnickrud, If you want to use an entire system with LVM, you _have_ to use lilo.04:00
nickrudArafangion, true, but only on old machines in my experience04:00
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intelikeylilo support a joke ?    hmmm i can't use grub, have to use lilo.    <shrugs/>04:00
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WhatTheDeucesladen: I guess that would be a good idea.  Thanks for the help04:00
nickrudArafangion, oh. I'll not claim an opinion there04:00
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ejvalles1980intelikey: why only lilo04:01
Arafangionnickrud, grub also only supports EXT2, and perhaps a few other partition formats.04:01
intelikeyejvalles1980 grub wont work on this setup04:01
bogaAnyone had sound trouble with Dapper? I need help. None of the wiki documents worked in my case. Thanx.04:01
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nickrudI like lilo, just do04:01
nickrudn04:01
nickrudn't see most of the use cases04:01
ArafangionFlannel, Perhaps the kernel updates should be scripted more carefully.   An automatic update should _never_ leave the system in an unbootable state.04:02
FreqWhere can I find the C header files for my kernel?04:02
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nickrudArafangion, no, false. That seems to be fud04:02
sladenArafangion: /boot as a straight ext2 will allow you to use grub and LVM everywhere else04:02
intelikeyArafangion actually i'm not sure grub can't work, but it can't be installed.... so end result is 'if you can't install it you can't use it'04:02
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ArafangionFlannel, As it did on one of my two ubuntu systems, my other grub-based system works fine.04:02
sladenFreq: sudo apt-get install linux-headers04:02
bogaFreq: simply install the kernel source files.04:02
Arafangionsladen, Indeed, but at the time I didn't do that.04:02
FreqSlad: thanks04:02
NoWhereToTurnCan some please please help me04:03
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sladen!tell NoWhereToTurn about justask04:03
intelikeyArafangion sorry   that was at ejvalles198004:03
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ejvalles1980intalikey cool then...04:03
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Arafangionintelikey, The issue with grub is that it has to be able to read the partition to find the kernel to mount.  lilo just goes straight to a prepared kernel.04:03
aeon17xI can't lock my screen using xscreensaver on dapper. ;_;04:03
aeon17xAny workarounds?04:03
varsendaggrhey how can i amek a luancher that starts a terminal  then cd then run's a pythons script in the terminal?04:03
intelikeyArafangion yes.04:04
FlannelArafangion: youre blaming ubuntu for your lack of experience re: lilo and kernels then?  Since, it didn't update them without your consent.04:04
NoWhereToTurnwell that did not help04:04
ArafangionFlannel, Not lack of experience.04:04
NoWhereToTurnlooks like it screwed up my system real good04:04
ArafangionFlannel, Just different expectations.04:04
nickrudArafangion, no, lilo maps to the actual hard partition location. grub uses bios to locate the kernel04:04
djcabzanyone care to recommend an IDE for perl development.  or you think just sticking to gvim is best?  I like Komodo but I don't want to spend money when there is a very "useable" tool in gvim.04:04
Arafangionnickrud, grub needs to read the partition.04:04
LadandayI installed drivers for my wlan adaptor, and ndiswrapper reports both drivers and hardware are found, and iwconfig shows eth2 is a wlan connection...but it says that the access point is invalid...any help?04:04
djcabzobviously somehthing that runs well in ubuntu ;)04:04
nickrudArafangion, precisley. Lilo does not04:04
Arafangionnickrud, Indeed.04:05
supadupahi does anyone know how i change the permissions for the example content folder04:05
NoWhereToTurnDoes the partitioner check all of the partitions on a hard drive?04:05
fcaliseWhat does laptop_mode do in acpi-support file?04:05
intelikeynickrud "maps to the actual hard partition location" ?   can you clear that up a little for us newbees ?04:05
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schalken nickrud: it might be that i need to shutdown X for it to work. brb04:05
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NoWhereToTurnThe partitioner in draper is poking around in partitions of other distros.. why?04:06
nickrudintelikey, heh, rflmao, all that. As I understand it, grub needs a working bios. lilo does not.04:06
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intelikeynickrud k that i can see. :)04:06
tux0010ok i tried installing the ati fglrx drivers as per the wiki04:07
nickrudintelikey, interpret what I said before, thru that prism. Gimme slack :)04:07
tux0010but fglrxinfo says opengl vendor is mesa04:07
intelikeylol04:07
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tux0010instead of ati04:07
sladenaeon17x: gnome-screensaver should just work04:07
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tux0010how do i get rid of mesa?04:07
garlaxelI have a PII 266 with 328MB ram 3.5Gig Maxtor HDD, The Dapper install Locks up when Mounting root file system.. any ideas?04:07
faroustux0010: why you did not install from the repos04:07
intelikeynickrud yeah it's cool just knew you knew better  :)04:07
aeon17xsladen: if I use that I couldn't configure the rest of my options04:07
faroustux0010: did you run aticonfig?04:07
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nickrudintelikey, yeah, language matters, truly04:08
tux0010yeap04:08
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tux0010farous, i did install from the repos04:08
NoWhereToTurnI need a drink04:08
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sladennickrud: grub has a ext2 filesystem reader, so reads the filesystem;  lilo just has a pointer to a sector containing a list of sectors to load and that list is computer when you type 'lilo'04:08
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supadupai did a sudo chmod but it only changed the permissions on the folder and not the files in the folder...please help04:08
stephan__sup everyone04:08
faroustux0010: ok did you install the linux-restricted-modules package04:08
_jasonvarsendaggr: you can pass an argument to the 'gnome-terminal' command using the -e switch to run an arbitrary command04:08
sladenstephan__: sudo chmod -R ...04:09
krazykitsupadupa: chmod -R04:09
sladenstephan__: and make sure you use a big 'X' not a little 'x' otherwise all the files will be executable, rather than just the directroies04:09
tux0010yeap it is all insstalled04:09
swaI read somewhere that there was a utility that helped you intall all the non-free stuff automagically (like flash/mp3 support) -- does anybod remmber the URL for thi tool?04:09
tux0010lemme try one more thing real qk....brb04:09
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supadupaok thank you04:09
faroustux0010: ok04:09
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aeon17xsladen: so I can't lock my screen with xscreensaver?04:10
sladenswa: easy ubuntu04:10
nickrudsladen, and which is more reliable in the long run, one that uses the bios and is really well written, or one that just uses hardware, and is more fragile?04:10
intelikeysladen correct lilo jumps to sector# and reads raw... X# sectors in.04:10
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sladenaeon17x: you should be able to just fine.  Have you configured it to lock your screen with xscreensaver?04:10
aeon17xsladen: how do I do that?04:10
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Ladandayiwconfig and iwlist are reporting my wireless adaptor's access point as invalid, can anyone tell me what this means/ideas on how to remedy?04:10
sladenintelikey: it reads a *list* of sectors, those sectors are not necessarily in one straight block04:11
NoWhereToTurnbbiab .. going to take a break and cry04:11
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Arafangionnickrud, Presumeably, they would both be improved later. The bios is often slow, and buggy. Hardware is also buggy, but the software will work around them in time.04:11
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intelikeyno not necessarily. but idealy04:11
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tux0010how good is the new ati driver?04:12
sladenaeon17x: System->Preferences->Screen Saver   [x]  Lock after [0]  Minutes04:12
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tux0010does it work well with a radeon 9500 pro?04:12
swasladen, thanks04:12
faroustux0010: slightly better than the 8.24 one04:12
annexHey, I recently bought a new SATA HDD and installed Dapper onto it.  On my old IDE HDD I have a Dapper install and a Windows XP partition.  From grub on the SATA HDD I can boot to the old Dapper partition, but if I try to boot to Windows XP grub just send me to a grub command prompt.  I've been reading but nothing I've tried works so far.  Any suggestions?04:12
aeon17xsladen: I want it to lock the screen when I press the lock screen button.04:12
aeon17xsladen: not automatically04:12
faroustux0010: no gain in speed just less lockups04:12
sladenaeon17x: what achine do you have?04:12
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sladenaeon17x: what machine?  A Thinkpad?04:13
aeon17xsladen: a PC04:13
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nickrudArafangion, to be truthful, I switched from lilo to grub with ubuntu. For my purposes, there was no real differences recently.04:13
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sladenaeon17x: gnome-screensaver supports the KEY_COFFEE (aka KEY_LOCK), but xscreensaver does not04:13
intelikey!tell annex about dualboot04:13
Arafangionnickrud, In cases where grub works, it works better than lilo can ever hope to do so.04:14
intelikey!tell annex about grub04:14
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aeon17xsladen: I could lock it before in xscreensaver in breezy.04:14
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intelikeyannex maybe one of those will be just what you need.04:14
nickrudArafangion, google lilo heaven. I beg to differ.04:14
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DyegovHi, I'm using live cd version of ubuntu 5.10, but I can't change the resolution of the screen04:14
Arafangionnickrud, I speak from the experience of one who used to routinely compile his own kernels.04:14
annexintelikey: thanks, I'll take a look... been reading for a while04:14
tux0010works  :)04:14
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gnomefreaklilo/heaven isnt that an oxymoron?04:14
sladenaeon17x: for dapper, xscreensaver has been replaced with gnome-screensaver.  And gnome-screensaver will do the locking if it's running04:14
faroustux0010: cool :)04:15
mcpowleydoes anyone have any experience running grsecurity in ubuntu?04:15
aeon17xsladen: okay, I'll use gnome-screensaver then04:15
sladenDyegov: if you monitor is returning the wrong results about it's capabilities then you'll need to override them04:15
nickrudArafangion, so do I, but pre-grub04:15
aeon17xsladen: how do I access the rest of the options though?04:15
intelikeygnomefreak no more than grub heaven would be04:15
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gnomefreaklol ;)04:15
sladenaeon17x: what option are you after?04:15
[LiFE] hi, could someone kindly help?04:16
Dyegovsladen, I don't knwo what you're talking about, I'm a noob04:16
nickrudnah, it's a state of mind, just an old one :)04:16
|_ockealright whats a cd burning app that can burn audio cd from mp3s that i can install from synaptic?04:16
[LiFE] I can't change my resolution to 1280x768 or 1366x768, how do I do this?04:16
DyegovI've tried in system, preferences resolution04:16
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Dyegovbut it just gives me one option04:16
Arafangionnickrud, :)04:16
aeon17xsladen: the part where I can control how long it would blank and cycle04:16
farous[LiFE] : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:16
aeon17xsladen: and preview04:16
farous!tel [LiFE]  about resol04:17
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous04:17
[LiFE] farous: u want me to run that?04:17
aeon17xsladen: and the part where I can also individually set each screensaver04:17
farous!tel [LiFE]  about resolution04:17
ubotufarous: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:17
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farousi forgot the factoid name04:17
intelikeyfarous tell04:17
thomasM_hello, i'm having a bit of trouble installing xgl, i've done it twice before, had no problems, but i'm having some issues this time. after installing compiz and related, there is no key in gconf related to compiz. Has anybody else experienced this or know what I should do? Is it safe to turn off my computer??04:17
bogaSound magically works now! I don't know what I have done to make it work!04:17
stephan__i have a reiserfs filesystem.....but i dont have write access or read ....how can i get em04:17
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farousintelikey: the factoid for fixing the resolution seems i forgot the factoid name for it04:18
intelikeytell04:18
whitesuitanyone here uses gdb?04:18
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intelikey!tell farous about ubotu04:18
tux0010next step Xgl :)04:18
nickrud!fixres04:18
ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:18
DyegovI hate this, too big to work, and I don't knwo anything about it 04:18
farousintelikey: i used tell. which i think is the command i am forgot the name fixres as nickrud put it04:18
intelikeyfarous you were typing !tel04:19
thomasM_k does anybody know where i can go for help with xgl if knowbody knows a solution to my problem?04:19
nickrudfarous, !tell04:19
farousah thanx nickrud and intelikey04:19
farousspell mistake04:19
intelikeyyep04:19
thomasM_!tell thomasM xgl04:19
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thomasM_ugh useless bot.04:19
thomasM_:(04:19
thomasM_!tell thomasM Xgl04:19
intelikeythomasM_ try /msg ubotu xgl04:20
monsterhmmm apparently apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils doesnt install the ndiswraper kernel module =(04:20
jbroome!tell thomasM_ about xgl04:20
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monsterany idea how to fix that04:20
nickrudubotu's xgl should be /dev/null04:20
intelikeythomasM_ or !tell thomasM_ about blah04:20
thomasM_O!04:20
nickrudat leat for a while04:20
thomasM_i'm thomasM_ today04:20
thomasM_lol04:20
thomasM_my bad.04:20
brettHey, whats a good Ipod manager program... one that does video... anyone know?04:20
thomasM_i didn't realize thomas was a common name..04:20
thomasM_brett, definitely pick up banshee.04:20
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thomasM_o video04:20
brettDoes it do video too?04:21
tux0010does the xgl stuff come preinstaller?04:21
thomasM_i dunno where they are on video04:21
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tux0010*preinstalled?04:21
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stephan__how do i use chmod to where i can make a user be able to access a file04:21
nickrudtux0010, no it does not04:21
nickrud!xgl04:21
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:21
thomasM_tux0010 no it doesn't, it's alpha stage04:21
RamiKassabhey guys, I'm fairly new to linux (I use it casually but have recently set it up on my laptop and got all of my hardware working perfectly). I'm now looking at getting the right software for my needs but there's so much out there that it's hard to know what the best is04:21
brettThe video is hard to find....04:21
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RamiKassabare there any sites out there that allow users to rate open source software?04:21
intelikeystephan__ man chmod04:21
tux0010is there a wiki for xgl installation?04:21
tux0010esp. with ati04:21
RamiKassabsay for example I'm looking for the available development IDEs on there04:21
schalkenhow do you delete a directory with the Unix CLI?04:21
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nickrudRamiKassab, sourceforge.net is the best place to look04:21
farousRamiKassab: help.ubuntu.com is a good start and packages.ubuntu.com for the package list04:22
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intelikeystephan__  short answer   chmod [args]  inode04:22
brettrami, lots if info on the forum... Windows to linux equates too...04:22
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_jasonschalken: rmdir if it is empty, rm -r if you want to delete a directory along with everything in it04:22
RamiKassabwell ok I'll start looking, any recomendations for development IDEs?04:22
raptros-v76anjuta04:22
gnomefreakubotu tell tux0010 -about xgl04:22
schalken_jason: thanks!04:22
RamiKassabis there anything equivalent to Macromedia Dreamweaver?04:22
farousRamiKassab: kdevelop04:22
RamiKassabthanks btw guys04:22
farousRamiKassab: but depend what language you will use04:22
Alethesnvu is probably the closest04:23
RamiKassabyeah I've used Kdevelop, I'm looking for something that enables me to work off of an SSH/SFTP connection04:23
intelikeystephan__ seeing that you are wanting access to something you don't have access to may i ask what it is ?    (incase any sujestions or warnings should be issued)04:23
AdmiralCrunchRadiantFire, I would say Nvu04:23
RamiKassabI'm looking at developing mainly in PHP, CSS, HTML, ASP etc04:23
inononvu04:23
RamiKassabfrom what I've seen with Kdevelop, I don't know if it's best for that04:23
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nickrudRamiKassab, if you're knowledgable (or know nothing) bluefish04:24
inonofor php there are too many editors to list, you can always try zend studio if you have $04:24
AdmiralCrunchIf you are going for PHP and ASP and stuff a text editor would be sufficent04:24
=== farous mainly python java and c
FlannelRamiKassab: I'd just use a text editor with syntax highlighting04:24
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Arafangionfarous, I prefer Python, and C++, or perhaps, C9904:24
stephan__intelikey: i put someone quake3 files in a reiserfs filesystem but i can only play the game in root04:24
RamiKassabwell I use VI quite a bit, like I said though, I'm looking for something that can work over an SFTP/SSH connection thought and VI can't quite do that yet :)04:24
inononickrud: hmm i was just looking for a power html editor04:24
ArafangionRadiantFire, VI stinks.  Use vim instead.04:25
RamiKassabI may just setup a local apache/mysql/webmin/virtualmin server though04:25
[LiFE] I am new to linux and ubuntu, so how do I install a media player?04:25
Blue89is it possible to install build-essential from the internet? my cdrom drive is not functioning properly, and the package manager is asking from my install cd04:25
FlannelRamiKassab, Arafangion meant you instead.04:25
farousArafangion: its a matter of taste. but most companies i work with require java specific04:25
[LiFE] anyone have one to recommend?04:25
intelikeystephan__ k chmod it04:25
inonothis isnt the 20th century04:25
stephan__intelikey:04:25
RamiKassab[LiFE] : sudo apt-get install xmms04:25
AdmiralCrunchArafangion, its a WHOLE 1 letter better ;)04:25
stephan__intelikey:  ok04:25
RamiKassabthat's a good one04:25
inonoRamiKassab: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html04:25
Arafangionfarous, Java is also a decent language, but WHY, oh why can't it support operator overloading?04:25
farous[LiFE] : totem is installed by default04:25
intelikeystephan__ if you need exec    chmod +x file04:25
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nickrudinono, bluefish. I know just a little about that stuff, but it seems to have the best tools.04:25
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inonothere you go, work over SSH with any editors which support remote editing04:26
ArafangionAdeman, The 'm' doesn't stand for "iMproved" for no reason.04:26
AdmiralCrunchJava is good but the need for large runtimes across platforms is annoying04:26
inonosudo apt-get instal sshfs04:26
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troytroyhmm so nobody going to help me setup my atheros ar5005g wireless nic04:26
ArafangionAdmiralCrunch, It is also it's greatest advantage, imho.04:27
inonoRamiKassab: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_remote_folders_into_local_Ubuntu_machine_.28sshfs.2904:27
nickrudAdmiralCrunch, talking about 'large' seems out of date04:27
RamiKassabinono: that looks good04:27
|_ockealright so even after doing the dpkg-reconfigure i dont have direct rendering04:27
|_ockeglx and dri are installed04:27
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|_ockeand libglide3 and everythign04:27
inonoI use it all the time for editing python files remotely04:27
ArafangionAdmiralCrunch, A large, somewhat standard API that works everywhere Java works.04:27
[LiFE] RamiKassab: what about vlc? any good?04:27
intelikeystephan__ only reason i asked is people come in here, it's their first day ever seeing linux and they ask how to make all files 777   and you just don't do things like that.04:27
nickrud|_ocke, voodoo 3?04:27
|_ockenickrud, yes04:27
troytroyanybody using subversion?04:27
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RamiKassabinono: now that we're on the topic of mounting a filesyste, how the hell do I get my XP filesystem mounted? I've looked around but can't figure it out04:27
Flanneltroytroy: yep04:27
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Flannel!tell RamiKassab about ntfs04:28
RamiKassabI read somewhere that mounting an NTFS filesystem is built into the Kernel04:28
inonoyeah good luck about ntfs...04:28
troytroyFlannel: how cool is it?04:28
RamiKassablol04:28
|_ockentfs works alright for me04:28
inonoi wouldnt mount it read/write unless you want to hose your hard drive04:28
Flanneltroytroy: it is indeed.04:28
ArafangionRamiKassab, There is no problem with mounting windows partition, you just won't be able to write to them.04:28
|_ockecourse i havent wrote to i04:28
RamiKassabno I just want it to be read, I know writing is very buggy04:28
troytroyFlannel: have any knowledge bout wireless04:28
inonoyou can try to use captive for read/write04:28
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RamiKassabI already got my EXT3 fs mounted in Win XP04:28
inonoahhh, read-only? thats easy04:28
nickrud|_ocke /https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d04:28
AdmiralCrunchArafangion, I am taking Java next year so we'll see if my opinion changes, but for now I am content with Python for my cross platform needs04:28
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Flanneltroytroy: I do not.04:28
inonothere's a ntfs kernel module, use synaptic and search for ntfs04:29
bobcSo I accidently did a 'sudo rm -rf /dev'... instead of the individual file I wanted deleted.  Is there any hope for me to restore my /dev directory?04:29
xeon3dHi... I'm having a problem with apt-get... whenever I try to do sudo apt-get upgrade it gives me this error. If I try and do a apt-get upgrade -f it tells me that it's gonna remove a shitload of packages including X. How can I fix it?04:29
farousRamiKassab: if you can have a FAT partition then you can use it for communication between window and linux04:29
troytroyok04:29
nickrudbobc, reboot04:29
[LiFE] sigh04:29
troytroyanybody cool with wireless04:29
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inonoyou can use truecrypt too04:29
[LiFE] so many things to learn04:29
RamiKassabArafangion: yeah writing isn't a big deal for me04:29
xeon3dhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15583 <- error it gives me.04:29
ArafangionAdmiralCrunch, May I advise Eclipse if you are in a situation where you absolutely must use an IDE for various reasons (In my class, everybody had to use BlueJ, which _stinks_).04:29
bobcnickrud: really, it will be ok?04:29
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ArafangionAdmiralCrunch, I also recommend ArgoUML04:29
troytroyi need surgery ASAP04:29
nickrudbobc, /dev is created dynamically04:29
sylvainHI just a tiny problem: what's the key, if any, to escape ubuntu's remote terminal full screen mode ???04:29
bobcOK, thanks!04:30
nickrudbobc, assuming you're using a stock ubunt04:30
AdmiralCrunchArafangion, thanks for the reccomendation04:30
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[LiFE] interesting04:30
intelikeybobc you probably hosed the static device nodes but udev should cover your but on that error.04:30
[LiFE] I got this to actually work04:30
intelikeyt04:30
cherwintroytroy: what is the problem?04:30
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|_ockei've got all those options the same, trying to just do it accelerated for now but its not working04:30
ArafangionAdmiralCrunch, I am a vim junky, myself, but eclipse can be rather nice at times.04:30
bobcnickrud: well, kubuntu, yes, pretty stock, what would not be stock, custom kernel?04:30
Bassettssladen: that did not work, still no usplash04:30
xeon3dcan anyone help? I'm having a problem with apt-get... whenever I try to do sudo apt-get upgrade it gives me this error. If I try and do a apt-get upgrade -f it tells me that it's gonna remove a shitload of packages including X. How can I fix it? ERROR:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1558304:30
RamiKassabfarous: that's too much work :)04:30
AlienXis there a good howto for writing to ntfs?04:31
RamiKassabI could set it up in Partition Magic but right now there's no need for me04:31
inonoAlienX: shoot yourself in the foot04:31
AlienXinono, yeah no kidding. It's for my roommate's computer :(04:31
farousRamiKassab: lol there is ext2fs driver look up sourceforge for them. though i do not recommend them04:31
FlannelAlienX: writing to NTFS is no stable, and as such, you can hose your entire NTFS partition04:31
ArafangionAlienX, I hear that paragon ntfs (commercial) allows you to do that.04:31
inonohere you go everyone!!!! http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/04:31
nickrud|_ocke, the key thing is using 16 bit as the default resolution. I've used that page more than once04:31
AlienXFlannel, i am aware of the risks04:31
RamiKassabAlso guys, I remember some years ago there was software out there that let you load Linux within Windows in a window (virtual machine software). Is there still something like it?04:31
fcaliseHow can I run a sudo command like /etc/acpi/sleep.sh sleep from console just on my normal user account?04:31
inonodont forget to shoot yourself in the foot if you want to write to NTFS (http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/)04:31
schalkennickrud: yay i fixed it! settings accelleration and sensitivity to -1 in gconf-editor sets it to system default. thanks!04:32
AdmiralCrunchArafangion, for the past few years I have never really gotten into the vi, vim, emacs realm before, but I understand its advantages, I have just been using gedit and such04:32
FlannelAlienX: the link inono is giving is the one, captive.04:32
intelikeyAlienX best howto for writing to ntfs is  dd if=/dev/zero of /dev/hd?#   but  that's just my opinion04:32
sylvainanyone uses remote terms ?04:32
troytroycherwin: thank good would have bled to death04:32
AlienXFlannel, sweet!04:32
sylvainlike to access a windows remote desktop04:32
TigerWolfanyone here played around with internet connection sharing and know how to config etc/dhcpd.conf? - i need help with 2 network card configuration04:32
nickrud|_ocke, and | as your first character is very annoying04:32
AlienXintelikey, lol yeah i wish i wasn't dealing with any of his windows crap04:32
|_ockei have 16 as default res :P, i'm trying using that script and stuff though04:32
inonoanyway that will only work on x86 not x86_6404:32
RamiKassabfarous: for accessing my linux filesystem within windows?04:32
inonoumm .. yeah.. good luck :D04:32
|_ockeits just been my nick since i was like 1204:32
troytroycherwin: i need to setup my atheros ar5005g wireless nic04:32
|_ockewhat client are you using that | is weird?04:32
AdmiralCrunchRamiKassab, http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html04:33
farousRamiKassab: they said when i used it long time ago ext2 and ext3 i do not know if they have other support you should just look thier page up04:33
ArafangionAdmiralCrunch, In particular, I'm a vim + screen junky, and I basically use the tools that the OS gives me.  It can be a rather nice system, and any time something doesn't work, I can find it out easily.  No more trying to figure out the HECK why something wrong (and you can't figure out what that is) in VS ASP.NET.04:33
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Flannel|_ocke: having to hit shift \ to nickcomplete is annoying.04:33
nickrud|_ocke, ok, I'll adapt :) and I wrote that page, what's the issue?04:33
cherwintroytroy: what did you try to make it work?04:33
|_ockei've heard the complaint before but i havent seen the issue04:33
Flannelnickrud: irssi can do oc and tab into it though, no idea about other clients04:33
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RamiKassabfarous: I already have it setup in Win XP to access my Linux FS04:33
RamiKassabext3 is backwards compatible to ext2 I believe04:34
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nickrudFlannel, eh, differernt issues, irrsi vs voodoo3 graphics.04:34
ArafangionRamiKassab, It is.04:34
|_ockenickrud, well, seems that even after installing all the packages related to glide3, and running tdfx, with glx and dri enabled, direct rendering is not working04:34
SAM_themanYo hommies I am back my sis finished her itunes crap on ugly windows xp04:34
RamiKassabArafangion: is it buggy to write to my ext3 fs from within windows with that driver?04:34
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troytroycherwin: problem is dapper detects it as ath0 but cant scan for aps04:34
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RamiKassabor am I safe doing that?04:34
farous|_ocke: would help if you state what card and which driver are you using04:34
ArafangionRamiKassab, Only if the driver itself is buggy.04:34
cherwintroytroy: do you get the error 'operation is not supported'?04:35
troytroycherwin: "Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable04:35
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ArafangionRamiKassab, Personally, I use a "shared" partition which is formatted FAT3204:35
RamiKassabArafangion: oh wow didn't know that, could I potentiall mess my filesystem up by writing?04:35
AdmiralCrunchArafangion, ah, well I am mostly in web development rather than actual applications, I guess I am just really used to gedit, but I really should try vim one of these days04:35
cherwintroytroy: hmm ok04:35
troytroycherwin: "Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable"04:35
CaptainMorgancan anyone help me connect to my local net? Im using kubuntu and Ive downloaded smb4k, applied sudo permissions.. it sees the network but can't connect04:35
troytroycherwin: so04:35
cherwincherwin: what do you get if you do an iwconfig?04:35
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nickrud|_ocke, could you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?04:35
ArafangionAdmiralCrunch, Or emacs.04:36
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sladenBassetts: check that your image is 640x*400*, that' it's 16-colours and that it opens in the GIMP04:36
troytroycherwin: entries but ap unassociated04:36
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AdmiralCrunchArafangion, yes, this seemed intersting http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12602304:36
ArafangionAdmiralCrunch, If you do decide to use emacs, do your hands a favour and remap the caps lock and ctrl keys.04:36
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RamiKassabHey guys, does using the ext2fs driver in windows have the potential to muck my linux filesystem up?04:37
varsendaggrwhere can i view man pages online?04:37
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cherwintroytroy: could you pastebin the output please?04:37
ArafangionRamiKassab, Very few of us could honestly say that.04:37
RamiKassabalso, what software is out there that will let me boot my linux partition up within windows?04:37
intelikeyhehhe   yeah like.   tac /dev/urandom | tr -d "[A-z] [0-9] " > /dev/stderr04:37
farousRamiKassab: i used it only for reading do not remember if i wrote to it. it gave me troubles on windows side04:37
RamiKassabArafangion: then what problems to the driver bugs cause?04:37
ArafangionAdmiralCrunch, I use vim only within screen.04:38
nickrudRamiKassab, vmware04:38
RamiKassabdoes vmware also need to be installed on the linux side?04:38
AdmiralCrunchAh04:38
farousRamiKassab: but to be honest it has been 3-4 years since i last used windows04:38
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nickrudRamiKassab, check the vmware site for the latest04:38
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RamiKassabfarous: I'm trying to make that transition eventually but I'm so tied down with Windows because of certain software requirements, I'll be doing development primarily on Linux now but business tasks need Windows for me04:39
SurfnKidWell I finally got it. I can update-upgrade my sources04:39
RamiKassabfarous: I am looking at building a seperate linux development machine04:39
ArafangionRamiKassab, What programs?04:39
Bassettssladen: yes yes yes04:39
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SAM_themanHas anybody been able to use XGL whitout anyproblem when running games or watching a movie04:39
intelikeyfarous hmmm  i installed xp when it came out used it about a month....      but i think i'll boot win 3.1  or win95 just to reminess <!sp>04:39
farousArafangion: i think for i have been there he has to be part of the team ;)04:39
nickrudRamiKassab, Arafangion has the prime question there :)04:40
RamiKassabArafangion: Microsoft Office OneNote, Microsoft Outlook (for sychronizing with my phone) etc04:40
farousintelikey: :)04:40
ArafangionRadiantFire, Evolution may be able to sync.04:40
SurfnKidbut this is ridiculous 10 to 12Kb/sec over ad-hoc to a laptop wired to the net.04:40
bobcnickrud: Thanks! rebooted and it's working fine04:40
RamiKassabis there sync software out there for smartphones for Linux?04:40
RamiKassabI haven't heard of anything04:40
ArafangionRadiantFire, Consider using VMware or qemu+kqemu for running windows and MS Office OneNote04:40
nickrudbobc, heh. /dev is always there, after reboot :)04:41
intelikeynick not if he actually rm's the dir... i tried that one time to see04:41
ArafangionRadiantFire, It's a bit slower, but not too slow for office tasks, afaik.04:41
tux0010this is so messed up04:41
tux0010http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=73975804:41
ArafangionRadiantFire, Out of the question for apps using 3D graphics, though.04:41
tux0010i have compiz and compiz-gnome installed04:41
RamiKassabagain though, this is just for my laptop, I am building a new stricly Linux development machine04:41
fcaliseCan someone explain to me how I can use visudo to allow my user to run /etc/acpi/sleep.sh sleep ?04:42
tux0010but i don't see apps->compiz in gconf editor04:42
xeon3dCan someone help me with apt-get? I can't do a sudo apt-get upgrade04:42
intelikeykernel panics very politely04:42
faroustux0010: did you try the wiki first04:42
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RamiKassabArafangion: so, any software out there that can sync with a smartphone?04:42
pepperpotHow do I set default nice run levels for servers (apache etc)?04:42
Arafangionintelikey, It panics? I thought it just oops.04:42
Flanneltux0010: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL support04:42
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tux0010Flannel, thanks04:42
intelikeyArafangion not if there is no /dev  it really panics04:43
ArafangionRamiKassab, I haven't got a smartphone, but I do know that a number of phones can sync. Yours may work with existing linux software, or it might not.04:43
Arafangionintelikey, Nice :)04:43
walterKHello can anyone recommend a download manager that supports batch downloading?04:43
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RamiKassaboh well, I appreciate all the help guys04:43
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fcaliseCan someone explain to me how I can use visudo to allow my user to run /etc/acpi/sleep.sh sleep ?04:43
intelikeywalterK wget04:43
nickrudwalterK, gwget04:43
RamiKassabbefore I go on to work on getting some these things setup, can anyone recommend the BEST development IDEs out there?04:43
walterKwget can do batch downloading with wildcards?04:44
ArafangionRamiKassab, In any case, if you can use an emulator to run windows just for your phone, and OneNote, you'll be less inconvenienced by having to reboot just to sync the dang phone.04:44
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nickrudwalterK, gwget is a frontend to wget04:44
ArafangionRamiKassab, Define BEST04:44
awesometaylorAnjuta IDE04:44
intelikeywget / wput  all the up/down loader you ever need04:44
wm0they does anyone know any decent gui irc clients?04:44
farousRamiKassab: depend what you wana make development for, what lang04:44
Arafangionwm0t, xchat04:44
walterKxchat04:44
wm0twell theres one thing about xchat that ihate tho04:44
wm0twhen you type join channel04:44
wm0tyou have to put the #04:44
Arafangionwm0t, That's irc.04:44
intelikeywm0t you bx04:44
wm0ti wish there was something with a little more versatility04:44
braed_haha, soooo much extra work eh?04:45
nickrudRamiKassab, for businesses, its eclipse for free, anuta for the freenicks, and emacs for the hardcore04:45
awesometaylorlol04:45
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wm0tintelikey yeah..04:45
wm0twell :P04:45
wm0twe dont like the extra work04:45
wm0tlol04:45
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RamiKassabwell, best as in good UI, supports a wide range of languages, has the ability to work over SSH/SFTP (although I can just mount the remote connection as a drive so this isn't super necessary)04:45
intelikeywm0t xbx04:45
intelikey?04:45
wm0txbx?04:45
braed_"we"... are there two of you in there?04:45
farousnickrud: interesting classification works for me perfectly though04:45
Arafangionwm0t, Infact, I don't think there's anything stopping a server from not using #'s at all. It's just convention.04:45
wm0tbraed_  me and my clone04:45
intelikeyxbitchx04:45
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CaptainMorgancan anyone help me connect to my local net? Im using kubuntu and Ive downloaded smb4k, applied sudo permissions.. it sees the network but can't connect04:45
wm0tArafangion  NOT THAT THAT MATTERS.04:45
braed_lol, i wish i had a few of those04:45
ArafangionRamiKassab, What is your primary language?04:45
wm0t:p04:45
SurfnKidxeon3d: cant resolve, update fails?04:45
wm0t :)04:45
|_ockenickrud, i tried to send you the xorg file04:45
daharonhey, guys.  I was thinking about playing a game of enemy territory, but searching synaptic yeilded no results.  can anyone tell me the package name?04:46
ArafangionRamiKassab, Eclipse is very popular as well, though I prefer using vim + screen and using linux as an IDE.04:46
farousRamiKassab: eclipse, jedit, kdevelop,04:46
RamiKassabArafangion: PHP, CSS, HTML, C, ASP, Java/JavaScript04:46
ArafangionRamiKassab, You may like bluefish.04:46
intelikeyjava  yuch04:46
nickrud|_ocke, I didn't get it, you need to be registered to send: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ is the place to put text for others to see04:46
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farousRamiKassab: netbeans and eclipse are great for java04:46
|_ockeoh04:46
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RamiKassabok I will check them all out, can I get all of those via apt get?04:46
|_ockei was just trying to dcc it04:46
xeon3dSurfnKid,04:46
xeon3dhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1558304:46
fcaliseCan someone explain to me how I can use visudo to allow my user to run /etc/acpi/sleep.sh sleep ?  Do I want to make a command alias or just allow my user access to the file?04:46
xeon3dthat's the error it gives me.04:46
ArafangionRamiKassab, Yes.04:46
RamiKassabfarous: shookrun04:47
syntacdoes the live dvd have more software on it than the live cd?04:47
farousRamiKassab: am not sure of netbeans04:47
farousRamiKassab: 3afwan04:47
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nickrudfarous, that was a semi inebriated classification, one I'd not make normally04:47
marioholas04:47
farousnickrud: frankly it is insightfull one04:47
|_ockehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1558404:47
intelikeyfcalise usernam ALL=(ALL) /etc/acpi/sleep.sh sleep04:47
farousclassification based on users :)04:48
xeon3dSurfnKid, I just want to erase that list.. and I managed to erase some already04:48
daharonhey, guys.  I was thinking about playing a game of enemy territory, but searching synaptic yeilded no results.  can anyone tell me the package name?04:48
SurfnKidxeon3d: ok hang on04:48
xeon3dbut there are still some packages left04:48
intelikeyerr maybe a colen in that04:48
RamiKassabArafangion: even if I'm running gnome, I am still able to install software built for KDE right?04:48
intelikeyfcalise usernam ALL=(ALL) :/etc/acpi/sleep.sh sleep04:48
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SurfnKidxeon3d: erase it? so how are you going to update04:48
farousRamiKassab: for sure04:48
fcaliseintelikey: thank you, I was missing the (ALL)04:48
nickrudclassification based on here an only a few mailling lists: limited04:48
SAM_themanyo hommies how I extract .tar.gz files in a terminal?04:48
RamiKassabfarous: awesome, just wanted to make sure04:49
|_ockeSAM_theman, tar zxvf04:49
xeon3dSurfnKid, I tried to install some packages with dpkg that didn't work out alright.04:49
syntacSAM_theman, tar -xvzf file04:49
intelikeyfcalise or could be localhost04:49
RamiKassabfarous: check your dialog window04:49
intelikeymore secure04:49
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SAM_themanThanks04:49
xeon3dSurfnKid, none of them were installed but somehow they managed to stay on apt-get list...04:49
fcalise(localhost)04:49
farousRamiKassab: you need to be registered to send pms04:49
xeon3dSurfnKid, so now I just want apt-get to forget that I tried to install them.04:49
RamiKassabah lol04:49
nf4my system is prime stable at 2.5ghz04:49
RamiKassabwall what's your AIM SN?04:49
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farousRamiKassab: so i did not recive any of yours though i knew why ;)04:49
RamiKassabif you have one04:49
ArafangionRamiKassab, The thing I like about using vim, is that regardless of the situation, if it is a text file (ANY text file), written on ANY OS, I can edit it, thus, I can use it to configure my BIND dns config files, my apache.conf files, and other administrative files, plus do coding in Python, Java, C...  Without having to learn new features just because I want to type a bit of SQL.04:49
RamiKassabwell I should register then04:49
nf4i can get it to boot at 2.8 but prime fails after only 5minutes04:50
thomasMk guys i think i figured out my issue with xgl... me any some other people just installed off of apt, and we all experienced the same problem: no gconf key. so tell people to avoid installing xgl until the bug if fixed.04:50
ArafangionRamiKassab, Yes, you can install and use KDE software even if you are using Gnome.04:50
SurfnKidxeon3d:  oh i see, dont know what to do there :/04:50
SurfnKidxeon3d: mine was failing to update-upgrade forever04:50
RamiKassabArafangion: you're right, I like VIM a lot too. I have been using it for quite some time too04:50
SurfnKidxeon3d: its a big problem with synaptic /behind routers04:50
RamiKassabArafangion: It is VERY versatile without a dobut04:50
RamiKassabdoubt04:50
SurfnKidxeon3d: i thought you were having the same problem04:50
xeon3dSurfnKid, my problem has nothing to do with routers...04:50
ArafangionRamiKassab, Indeed.  I used it to take LaTeX notes at uni last year as well :)04:50
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xeon3dSurfnKid, those packages are marked by apt-get to be installed and I just want to unmark them.04:51
intelikeyfcalise let me caution you on security,  unless you chmod 500 sleep.sh   you are running a security hole there.04:51
SurfnKidxeon3d: i know, mine is, but i thought initially your apt-get question had something to do with mine04:51
RamiKassabheh, yeah I am working on getting LaTeX templates setup for that actually :)04:51
xeon3dSurfnKid, oh ... ok. :)04:51
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SurfnKidxeon3d: oh erase those only, i see, how did you do it04:51
ArafangionRadiantFire, LaTeX is one area where I use gvim instead, and use the latex plugin.04:51
nf4pennitrateing security holes is illegal isnt it04:51
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thomasManybody pick up about telling people not to install xgl from apt for a bit? there's errors in the packages... no gconf key gets installed for compiz... tell people NOT to install XGL.04:52
thomasMthanks.04:52
intelikeyfcalise if users can edit the script and then run it as root what keeps them from editing it to say  /bin/bash  and bam they have full root access.04:52
farousArafangion: your autocompl need some work ;)04:52
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RamiKassabArafangion: ah, they have a LaTeX plug for gvim? I like that04:52
xeon3dSurfnKid, I could remove some... by doing sudo dpkg -r package-name...04:52
Arafangionfarous, Indeed :(04:52
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fcaliseintelikey, ok thank you, is there any alternative then for me to allow my user to run a sleep script from a fluxbox menu?04:52
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DyegovIs there any way to install Ubuntu without having to loos all my files and windows operationg sistem?04:53
SurfnKidxeon3d: so maybe its just tedious :P04:53
intelikeyfcalise not really just make the script secure and you should be fine.04:53
RamiKassabDyegov: of course04:53
sladenDyegov: yes, just install it04:53
xeon3dcan anyone help me make apt-get forget some packages?04:53
SurfnKidxeon3d: brb i have to reconnect my modem04:53
ArafangionRamiKassab, The thing about emacs and vim is that there are tools for nearly everything.  For instance, they both have a script that allows them to operate as an irc client, but I seriously hope nobody uses them.04:53
faroushope you like ubuntu RamiKassab take care04:53
SAM_themanYo guys,I have this problem what does it mean? (http://pastebin.com/703693)04:53
Dyegovit says that I have to format04:53
sladenDyegov: Ubuntu will give you the option to resize your Windows partitions04:53
Dyegovbecaus I just have 1 partition04:53
DyegovI don't know how to do that04:54
RamiKassabfarous: thanks habibi04:54
RamiKassabfarous: what's your SN?04:54
sladenDyegov: yes, Ubuntu will allow you do resize you Windows partition to make space for Ubuntu, when you do the install04:54
xeon3dis there a channel for apt related help?04:54
RamiKassabhey BRB guys04:54
Dyegovcould you please help me in private? here I can't read with all the other people's questions04:54
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nf4i think that it is easier to use one hd for linux and one for windos04:55
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ArafangionDyegov, Does your client have nick highlighting?04:55
Viohow to check  a disk for errors ?04:55
djcabzne1 know if there is a tcpdump perl module?04:55
ArafangionDyegov, If so, ask your question, and just pay attention to highlighted lines :)04:55
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roostishawwhere can i find a guide that will tell me how to copy my entire home directory to a new partition specifically for that use?04:55
Viois there  a safe utility to check a disk for errors ?04:55
ArafangionDyegov, Assuming that their tab keys work... :(04:55
Dyegovyes, it has, but it gets me confused04:55
Dyegovanyway04:55
JohnsonEquick non-ubuntu-specific question: will wine be able to detect my MIDI keyboard if I'm running FL Studio with it?04:55
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Dyegovhow do I resize my partitions?04:56
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CaptainMorgancan anyone help me connect to my local net? Im using kubuntu and Ive downloaded smb4k, applied sudo permissions.. it sees the network but can't connect04:56
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roostishawDyegov, i just did it with gparted04:56
ArafangionJohnsonE, Unlikely, imho. Wine does not give access to hardware.04:56
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Viois there  a safe utility to check a disk for errors ?04:56
sladenCaptainMorgan: delete the "WORKGROUP"04:56
Dyegovbut sladen said I could do that from the isntalation04:56
JohnsonEok thanks.04:56
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intelikeyVio man badblocks04:56
roostishawDyegov, gparted is on the live cd04:57
nickrudDyegov, sladen has a lot of info, but you'll have to think as well.04:57
Viook where shuld i use this command04:57
roostishawwhere can i find a guide that will tell me how to copy my entire home directory to a new partition specifically for that use?04:57
nickrudsladen, :)04:57
intelikeyVio man fsck    if you meant file-system rather than disk04:57
Vioon shell while my disk is mounted ?04:57
CaptainMorgansladen, why?04:57
Dyegovit's on the live cd? ok, i'll try04:57
roostishawyep04:57
VioI mean bad clusters or bad sectors04:58
intelikeyvio yes04:58
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DyegovThis is my first time with linux, that's wy I don't understand anything04:58
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intelikeyVio man badblocks04:58
Viois it ok to do so while the partition is mounted04:58
[LiFE] i can't open network folders from vlcplayer huh? is there any xvid players that will open network files?04:58
Bassettsto play dvds in dapper do i have to get totem-xine?04:58
CaptainMorgansladen, further, how do I delete it using smb4k?04:58
Fonkeyum, hey, I tried to change my hostname, and now sudo doesn't seem to work04:58
intelikeyvio yes04:58
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sladenCaptainMorgan: for some reason it only works when using  machine/workgroup04:58
Fonkeyit says "unable to look up hactar [that's the hostname]  via gethostbyname()04:58
Viook04:58
sladenCaptainMorgan: and doesn't if the worksgroup box is not empty04:58
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AngryElfi imagine keep is a frontend for tar -- is it worthwhile?04:59
intelikeyVio man badblocks     and read about safe testing.   aka read only04:59
roostishawanyone, im following this guide: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/  and at one point it says to do: find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd /mnt/newhome/   why do i get a permission denied error?04:59
roostishawi tried it with sudo too04:59
sladenvio: get smart-utils04:59
nickrudDyegov[Away] , the hardest thing to do here is help someone install ubuntu, because we do not want to hurt your windows. Partitioning space for ubuntu requires you to understand what you are doing.04:59
sladenroostishaw: just use   cp -a  from  to04:59
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Dyegov[Away] and that's a real big problem nickrud05:00
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roostishawsladen, will that get it all?05:00
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intelikeyroostishaw man cp05:00
CaptainMorgansladen how do I delete the workgroup?05:00
CaptainMorganusing smb4k? or?05:00
Dyegov[Away] in what part of the live cd can I find gpart?05:00
roostishaw...i wasn't asking you, but thanks!05:00
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nickrudDyegov[Away] , the only thing I can suggest is using windows to create a drive you don't need, like E: . You can give that partition, and a bit of it for swap, to ubuntu.05:01
AngryElfanyone know of a good frontend/GUI for tar/mt for tape drives?05:01
intelikeyyeah that happens in irc.    people you are not directly addressing sometimes answer05:01
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intelikeyfileroller ?05:02
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Dyegov[Away] as I sad before, I'm a noob in anything, so I don't even know how to make a drive nickrud05:02
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Dyegov[Away] it seems I won't be able to use ubuntu never05:02
Dyegov[Away] and have to be stick to windows05:02
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pol3rhey, should i use my sn from the forums in here?05:02
CaptainMorgansladen, smb4k doesn't give me an option to delete05:02
n30nWhy is that Dyegov05:02
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Acorn22ok05:02
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planetcallgoodmorning peeps05:03
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nickrudDyegov[Away] , life takes learnig05:03
Acorn22moning?05:03
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planetcallAcorn22, its India05:03
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Dyegovbut learning takes a lot of time T_T05:03
Acorn22cool!05:03
n30nHey, what is the name of the new verson. 5.10 was Breezy Badger right?05:03
Acorn22yes05:03
nickrudDyegov, true statement :)05:03
Hobbseedapper05:03
n30nIs it just xubuntu?05:03
|_ockeyeah05:03
Acorn225.10 = breeezy05:04
Hobbseen30n: dapper drake, 6.0605:04
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Dyegovso, have I stay with windows?05:04
n30nAh. Thankyou.05:04
n30nNo05:04
thomasMn30n its Dapper Drake: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS05:04
n30nWhat seems to be the problem Dyegov05:04
n30nthomasM: Thanks05:04
planetcallI just downloaded Java5 (bin file) . http://www.minds.nuim.ie/~voyager/blog/index.php?/archives/24-The-CORRECT-way-to-install-Sun-Java-on-DebianUbuntu.html    suggests me to use fakeroot to install it properly. Should I follow it ? Normally using alien is not allowed. How is fakeroot ?05:04
Acorn22india has internet?05:04
ChefWillno way!05:04
planetcallAcorn22, Broadband05:04
nickrudDyegov, no, you just have to learn how not to use windows. Effort expended, assets gained05:04
DyegovThat I don't know how to change my only partition to make space for ubuntu n30n05:05
intelikeyAcorn22 and how05:05
Acorn22seriously, i did not know that05:05
|_ockei was on the internet when i was in india05:05
Acorn22neat05:05
AngryElfintelikey, i dont see that file-roller has support for tape drives05:05
Acorn22can you all tell im 15?05:05
Acorn22lol05:05
planetcallAcorn22, you seem to be pretty ignorant about the world's largest democracy05:05
n30nDyegov: Are you hoping to save the information you have on the old partition?05:05
thomasM"india has internet" lol how do you think all those tech support guys operate? in the dark?05:05
Dyegovnickrud, but I have to keep windows, cause my father uses it, and he wont change it05:05
|_ockeindia is more high tech than south africa for sure :P05:05
nickrud|_ocke, I was away for a bit, did you get your 3d working05:05
|_ockenickrud, nope05:05
intelikeyAcorn22 can you tell i'm 4205:06
Acorn22africa has internet? it makes sense i guess05:06
Dyegovyes n30n, I dont want to lose my files, nor my windows operationg system05:06
|_ockenickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1558405:06
thomasMthe whole world has internet...05:06
n30nDyegov, when you are in the install screen booting from the disk, say "use free space" or whatever it says.05:06
|_ockeAcorn22, ubuntu is from south africa05:06
nickrudDyegov, that's a social thing, not a technical thing.05:06
thomasMsatellites do amazing things other than TV.05:06
planetcallhow safe is fakeroot ?05:06
Eleaflol05:06
Acorn22i guess i have always considerd them all extreemely 3rd wolr05:06
n30nIt will make a partition out of the free space from the other partition05:06
Dyegovyes n30n, but it just has 8MB of free space (it says)05:06
crimsun_planetcall: it's used for packaging, not for subsuming privileged user access.05:06
planetcallubuntu is actually a southafrican word. I doubt if its from SouthAfrica05:06
planetcallcrimsun_,  see http://www.minds.nuim.ie/~voyager/blog/index.php?/archives/24-The-CORRECT-way-to-install-Sun-Java-on-DebianUbuntu.html05:07
Geoffrey2planetcall, you do realize a fully ported version of Java5 already exists in the Ubuntu distros?05:07
Acorn22it menas "everybody" right?05:07
|_ockeDyegov, you must resize05:07
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planetcallI want to know if the guide should be followed05:07
n30ndyegov, Oh. Try degragmenting your system. IDK if that will help, but in theory it should make more space free in a row.05:07
thomasMdyegov, resize your NTFS filesystem, create a FAT filesystem in the freespace, and copy all of your files onto that05:07
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planetcallAcorn22, it means a few things more. You should see the promo video in dapper05:07
Acorn22i did05:07
n30nIt is taking the largest chunk of free space it can find in a row, Dyegov.05:07
|_ockei was under the impression it was developed there05:07
crimsun_planetcall: you can if you wish. Granted we already have jdk 1.5 in multiverse.05:07
lonegeekwhat is a good xvid encoder with a gui05:07
planetcallit means humanity towards others05:07
Acorn22i don't remeber because i was messing with the sound controls lol05:07
thomasMdygov, then when you install ubuntu, install over the NTFS partition, and ubuntu will be able to read all of your files on the FAT drive :D05:07
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Acorn22totem?05:08
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DyegovLet's let it as it's, I dont understand anything, so I'll keep windows T_T05:08
Snoopsubuntu can read all the files on my ntfs partitions fine.05:08
intelikeyAngryElf hmmm guess you are right.    sorry about that.    even apt-cache search tape   is not much help...05:08
thomasMtotem is an xvid decoder...05:08
planetcallcrimsun_, installing from multiverse didnt set the paths write.  writing java --version still shows 1.4 when installed from multiverse05:08
Acorn22lonegeek: vlc05:08
SAM_themanGusy wtf this means ...(http://pastebin.com/703701)05:08
Acorn22i think05:08
Dr_Willis'why try harder' :P05:08
SAM_theman*Guy's05:08
lonegeekacorn22: vlc doesnt encode to xvid05:08
crimsun_planetcall: did you manually update the java alternatives, then?05:08
winbonddoes ubuntu clone user files??    /media/sda2/home/user and /media/sda3/user,    i have /home on a different partition the /root and it eppears like its cloninf files in these 2 directories05:08
Acorn22ok05:08
thomasMdyegov, your call. its not that difficult...05:08
crimsun_planetcall: there should be plenty of forum posts for that.05:08
planetcallno i didnt update java alternatives05:08
Acorn22i don't know anything about video encoders05:09
SnoopsI'm looking to make a few videos of my desktop demonstrating some xgl/compiz tweaks I've tried.. I've heard xvidcap is the thing to use, but I can't find it for amd64..any help?05:09
Dyegovyes, it's thomasM, because I dont understand a word of anything05:09
planetcallyeah I should have checked, but now as I have the binary, I would like to do it manually05:09
planetcallhow safe is fakeroot to convert bin to deb ?05:09
intelikeyAngryElf you have every right to put me on ignore now.   ;/05:09
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nickrud|_ocke, I cannot see anything wrong with that xorg.conf, it seems a reasonable mod of the dapper xorg. Could you post the /var/log/Xorg.0.log after starting that X config?05:09
PeregrinoHi All!05:09
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Acorn22lol05:10
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AngryElfthat may be premature05:10
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AngryElfbut....DON'T EVER DO IT AGAIN!05:10
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Acorn22what did he do?05:10
nickrudAngryElf, heh. I meant to call you on that05:10
intelikey;)05:10
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thomasMdyegov, google is your friend. first look up resizing partitions, then creating partitions, and finally, a guide on installing ubuntu. there are guide for everything that even the most unexperienced people can follow no problems. But if you don't feel strongly for ubuntu, don't switch if its going to cause you any problems.05:10
n30nHow do i enable multiverse again?05:11
AngryElf!multiverse05:11
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.05:11
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n30nAngryElf: Thanks mucho05:11
SnoopsAnyone? xvidcap for amd64 or another way to capture fast moving video on desktop?05:11
DyegovOk thomasM, thanx, I'll try a last time ;)05:11
moosei just installed hoary hedgehog about an hour ago, no problems, on hardware two other distro's wouldnt install on05:11
moosethis is my first time using linux05:11
Bassettscan someone help, i have libdvdcss2, but i get to the menu on my dvd at it says it cannot be read05:11
thomasMsnoops, um Istanbul is a good program.05:11
n30nSnoops: Google.05:11
mooseand i updated as well05:11
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lonegeekhow can i encode to xvid beside mencoder.......and avidemux2 wont encode any audio part05:11
mooseto new versions05:11
cycommoose: why didn't you install dapper?05:11
moosei had hory on cd05:12
Acorn22how do i change it so firefox looks like firefox (icon)05:12
Acorn22is is possible?05:12
moosei got mad with winxp and said "enuff!"05:12
nickrudmoose, which version05:12
n30nHey, gotta jet.05:12
moose5.0405:12
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SnoopsI gave istanbul a go, and it didn't seem like it could keep up with the recording (at 1920x1200)05:12
thomasMmoose lol.05:12
moosethen i ran apt-get distro-update05:12
Geoffrey2actually, I installed java, then tried to follow the wiki docs on setting java alternatives.....doesn't work05:12
mooselol05:12
PeregrinoI want to download Dapper Drake LiveCD, but i can't find it as "LiveCD"05:12
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nickrudmoose, save that install, compare it to another install on dapper05:12
thomasMsnoops, i've never used it, and my screen is nowhere near that ginormous D:.05:12
PeregrinoIs the Desktop CD that one?05:12
Dr_WillisPeregrino,  the normal cd is the live cd.05:12
TigerWolfPeregrino:  Desktop is live CD05:12
Dr_Willisits a live cd + installer. = desktop cd.05:12
moosek05:13
Bassettshi again Dr_Willis05:13
thomasMlol.05:13
Dr_WillisHowdy Bassetts05:13
PeregrinoOhh, I see, and the "Server" CD is the Install one?05:13
Bassetts(its who used to be JasonL)05:13
SnoopsI've been googling for ages n30n.. can't find anywhere to get xvidcap for amd6405:13
SAM_themanwell05:13
Dr_WillisThe server cd is a Different install cd.05:13
Acorn22holy cow!05:13
thomasMno peregrino, the live cds have installers on them.05:13
SnoopsI heard it's possible with ffmpeg?05:13
Acorn22im on the inernet with ndiswrapper05:13
Bassettsdont suppose you could help me get my dvd playback working Dr_Willis05:13
|_ockenickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1558505:13
nickrudmoose, I hear all the time that things work on hoary that don't work on later releases, you can be our guinea pig :)05:13
Acorn22i didnt even configure anything yet05:13
thomasM!dvd05:13
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)05:13
Snoopsbut not sure what device to point it to to get it to record05:13
Acorn22how is this poosible?!05:13
SAM_themanwell HELLO!05:13
PeregrinoMhh... I have an old distribution package (5.10 BB) and comes with 2 CD05:14
moosei have a small question for the experts: my main workstation has xp with dual monitors connected to an ATI vidfeo card with vga and dvi connects05:14
moosei run dual monitor, can it be done with dapper?05:14
varsendaggrhow do i fix the fonts in wine?05:14
intelikeymoose i dist-upgraded from hoary to dapper   worked great on the testing but the last update when dapper went release it hosed a few things.05:14
mooseor hoary?05:14
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SnoopsI can use vlc to record the screen..but not that great.. especially when you encode at 1920x1200.. :(05:14
Dr_WillisBassetts,  i never play dvd's i rip them to hd/avi/video files and thats it.05:14
mooseahh05:14
varsendaggrmoose, yeah05:14
moosei will reinstall then05:14
moosethanks05:14
Bassettsok WIllis05:14
Acorn22so awsome!05:14
thomasMmoose yeah no problems if you install some extra ati stuff.05:14
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moosesweet05:14
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Peregrino Mhh... I have an old distribution package (5.10 BB) and comes with 2 CD. LiveCD & InstallCD :(05:15
Acorn22any listneing? i just downloaded ndiswrapper with synaptic and now it automaticaly works! I didn't even give it the exe drivers yet!05:15
intelikey!tell moose about ati05:15
thomasMperegrino is there a question there?05:15
Geoffrey2I'd go in and try to set the Java alternatives, and for most of the file types, I'd get a message that there were no alternatives05:15
intelikeyfyi05:15
nickrud|_ocke, II) TDFX(0): Direct rendering enabled : confirm by typing in a terminal, glxinfo | grep -i direct05:15
moosei am a windoze IT guy, and after 10 years of dealing with MS and then seeing the damn hard  specs for the upcoming vista...i cannot see using it...i refuse too05:15
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nickrud|_ocke, it should answer yes05:15
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Bassettshmm works now Dr_Willis, i just ejected the dvd and tried again05:16
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Snoopsmoose have you played with xgl/compiz yet?05:16
thomasMyeah moose linux is just as viable these days.05:16
|_ockelocke@locke:~$ glxinfo | grep -i direct05:16
|_ockedirect rendering: No05:16
troytroyhi what does this error mean "/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory"05:16
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mooseno05:16
moosei am a linux n00b05:16
moosebut after 30 mins of using it, i got major wood05:16
mooselol05:16
thomasMHAH05:16
|_ockeweird huh05:16
moosethis rocks05:16
Dr_Willis0_o05:16
ChefWilltroy try 'sudo apt-get install build-essential05:16
platypusi am having problems upgrading my libc605:16
intelikeytroytroy means the symlink is missing ?05:17
platypusanyone have the same problem on dapper ?05:17
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mooseno offense to anyone05:17
thomasMmoose its so easy right?05:17
moose:)05:17
nickrud|_ocke, the xorg log you posted said yes, there's something in between05:17
lonegeekmoose: i can possible help with ati duals.......first load up synaptic and install fglrx drivers and everything else with fglrx05:17
mooseit is easy05:17
thomasMwood offends me.05:17
thomasMlol.05:17
mooselol05:17
Snoopsin a lot of ways dapper absolutely surpasses windows on many, many fronts.. there's still a few bits and pieces which most users would be put off by05:17
moosei am taking notes05:17
rendoI have a question for those with the uber knowledge.05:17
Snoopsbut for the users willing to tinker :D05:17
moosethis is running on a temp workstation05:17
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thomasMyeah snoops, like how they need to fiddle around to get mp3's working.05:17
|_ockenickrud, thats the current log05:17
moosei wsill install dapper on my main tomorrow05:17
|_ockeim in x right now and thats the log for this boot heh05:18
rendoMy friend can't seem to burn the 6.06 iso properly and I know there's a way to install it FROM windows without a CD.  It involves the intrid and vmlinux files and has to do with boot, does anyone recall this?05:18
kieranDOASnoops: sorry to join mid convo, but i agree.05:18
intelikeyrendo na just ask us regulars05:18
moosethen it's "no turning back" time05:18
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|_ockeand glxinfo tells me no05:18
lonegeekthomasM: i never had to do a thing to make mp3s work05:18
JohnsonEhow can I get the rar archiver working?05:18
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kieranDOASnoops: Most of the 'issues' are either driver or patent issues. :(05:18
Geoffrey2wine is obviously still a work in progress05:18
Snoopsyep kieranDOA05:18
CaptainMorgancan anyone help me connect to my local net? Im using kubuntu and Ive downloaded smb4k, applied sudo permissions.. it sees the network but can't connect05:18
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PeregrinothomasM: yes! I want to download the LiveCD 6.06, but I cant Find it! I don't know if there's been a change in the kind of distros...05:18
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AngryElfrendo - - call up your neighbor and have them download and burn it -- the way you're talking is a lot more complicated :)05:18
thomasMlonegeek, AFAIK ubuntu gstreamer doesn't ship with mp3 support... did they change that for dapper?05:18
intelikeyGeoffrey2 are you trying to use wine as a windows emulator ?05:19
NoWhereToTurnAnyone want to help me?05:19
ChefWillJohnsonE: you in dapper?05:19
planetcallit seems i did a mistake by not installing java5 from synaptic05:19
xnixgo for it05:19
JohnsonEChec: yes05:19
kieranDOAI think we should call hardware companies.05:19
JohnsonEf*05:19
rendoAngryElf, no it isn't. I did it in 10 minutes the very first time I installed ubuntu.05:19
ChefWillJohnsonE: sudo apt-get install unrar05:19
intelikeywine=wine is not an emulator05:19
rendoAngryElf I just need information, like a website with the instructions.05:19
lonegeekthomasM: i dont know but banshee worked right away............and i just loaded up mp3 with mplayer and it worked fine....i dont know05:19
cduby1CaptainMorgan, you trying to connect to a winders box or the other way around?05:19
troy_sgreetz kieranDOA05:19
kieranDOAAnd tell them if they dont release open specs/drivers, We're going to eat the owners dog... or wife.. :P05:19
thomasMperegrino... http://www.ubuntu.com/download05:19
Geoffrey2intelikey, actually, I'd downloaded Crossover, and yes, I was hoping to use it as a Windows emulator05:19
bootlickGoing to a swf link, i get the animation, but no sound?05:19
kieranDOAtroy_s: Greetings :-)05:19
bootlickis there something i have to configure?05:20
thomasMlonegeek, banshee probably installed XING on you. love the banshee.05:20
troy_skieranDOA: That's the spirit.  But I guess we need to be nice about it :)05:20
planetcallwill it be possible to move or backup the downloaded java package from apt cache ?05:20
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intelikeygeoffrey2  wine=wine is not an emulator05:20
JohnsonEChef: It says the package has no installation candidate05:20
intelikeyGeoffrey2 vmware05:20
lonegeekthomasM lol yes...but its a bit slow on scrolling and searching..and doesnt keep order05:20
winbonddoes ubuntu clone user files??    /media/sda2/home/user and /media/sda3/user,    i have /home on a different partition the /root and it eppears like its cloninf files in these 2 directories05:20
Saleelto any that can help, I dont see the swiftfox/firefox>tools>options button complete noob please help?05:20
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kieranDOAtroy_s: Troy, Ill share the bbq'd dog, How about that? :P05:20
nickrud|_ocke, OK, i'm a gonna point you at http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/3dfx which says that the 3dfx is obsolete. I don't have a card to compare that wiki page to anymore (I went over it with a fine tooth comb) and I'm gonna ask that that page be deleted05:20
thomasMuse qemu if you want to install windows inside ubuntu.05:20
SAM_themanHey I am having problems on ubntu Dapper Drake05:20
kieranDOAtroy_s: hehe, Just  messing, dogs rule :-)05:20
Dr_Williswinbond,  i think ya should recheck your mount points..  the answer is 'no' not that i have ever seen.05:21
troy_skieranDOA: On a serious note, it _is_ the best way to have your voice heard.  We need to tell them...05:21
JohnsonEChef: It says the package has no installation candidate05:21
SAM_themanbrb05:21
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troy_skieranDOA: I have three, so yah.05:21
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Saleelany help?05:21
n30nIs anyone getting bugs with the new Ubuntu verson?05:21
NoWhereToTurnWhy does the Ubuntu installer check all of the aprtitons on a hard drive even those that have other distros on them05:21
kieranDOAtroy_s: Just the one myself, and a snake.05:21
lonegeekyou know what sucks about linux.....no good xvid encoders!05:21
mooseok, afk for the nite, thanks for the tips folks, its really appreciated!05:21
mooselinux forever!05:21
moose:)05:21
platypushmmm05:21
rendoHas anyone else had any problems burning the .iso?05:21
platypusseems to be some bad problems with libc605:21
rendoMy friend keeps doing it and none of them worked.05:21
n30nlonegeek: google.05:22
cduby1Saleel, what are you trying to do?05:22
troy_slonegeek: There are a few good ones bro.05:22
kieranDOAtroy_s: Yeah, I wonder if enough people emailed, called, wrote, bugged them theyd do it, doubtful though :(05:22
lonegeekn30n: ive been looking for 2 days straight.....i need something with a gui.....mencoder meh....avidemux wont let me encode video with pcm audio to lame audio05:22
Saleelcduby1: trying to find out how to get the firefox/swiftfox>tools>options button05:22
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lonegeektroy_s: such as?05:22
NoWhereToTurnIt is complaining about partition #2 of IDE1 has uncorrected errors..05:22
winbondDr_Willis: how can i recheck the mountpoints?   i know i have same files in these 2 directories05:22
Dr_Willislonegeek,  your need for a gui is your weakness. :P05:22
|_ocke:(05:22
|_ockei want hardware accel05:22
Dr_Williswinbond,  'mount' command.05:22
kieranDOAsaleel: you mean the options? Its in edit?05:22
NoWhereToTurnTHe thing is that ubuntu is being installed in hdb14!!05:23
lonegeekDr_Willis: lol....DO YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK TO WINDOWS?! ........i would assume no....05:23
intelikeywinbond mount05:23
cduby1Saleel, uh, guess I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say "options button"......05:23
kieranDOAedit>preferences :-)05:23
ReleaseXI'm trying to get gtkwifi to work, nothing will show up when i try to refresh the list the wireless card works fine, and iwlist eth1 scan works, anyone know why this wouldn't work05:23
Dr_Willislonegeek,  this is linux.. we dont care what you do. :P05:23
SaleelKieranDOA: jeebus thats not how it used to be in windows, thanks05:23
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lonegeekDr_Willis: your not much of a doctor....... doctors should care05:24
Dr_Willislonegeek,  the video encoders i use under windows use ffmpeg as their backend. which is out for linux as well.05:24
nickrud|_ocke, trust me, hardware accel on a voodoo3 is nothing to talk about. Get a 5200 or 6200 from nvida05:24
Saleelcduby1:I guess its called preferences in linux05:24
JohnsonEok so say I download RAR 3.60 beta for linux. it's a .tar.gz, so do i need to unarchive it first or can i install it directly from there?05:24
nickrudnvidia, even05:24
Dr_Willislonegeek,  im into acupuncture with large blunt needles.05:24
|_ocke:P i cant afford to get pc133 right now heh05:24
willis it possible to mount a   *.vcd image   (made with an old version of 'virtual cd'05:24
crysis there a quick tip/trick for a usb mouse that doesn't wake back up after the computer comes back from standby mode?05:24
lonegeekDr_Willis: well im looking for something similar to autogk for windows.....that is an amazing program05:24
Dr_Willis!rar05:24
ubotuit has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression05:24
kieranDOASaleel: dont worry, i use ff in Linux/os x and windows daily, all in different places, it does get confusing from time to time.05:24
|_ockei have a 4x burner lol05:24
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cduby1yeah, but I was a bit confused about the button reference you were talking about .......heh05:24
intelikeywinbond home on /media/home is an odd setup  you don't have another /home dir do you?05:24
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|_ockegotta pay rent and pay for my truck first05:24
SurfnKidwow what a difference05:24
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nickrud|_ocke, $30us, at a show or an outlet05:25
|_ockeim working on getting a nvidia 4200 though05:25
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SurfnKidmy other laptop does let me download at 85+KB/sec thru an ad-hoc connection05:25
qpt``I LOVE GAY SEX05:25
elephanthunter...05:25
qpt``I LOVE IT SO FAR UP MY ASS THAT IT POPS OUTTA MY MOUTH05:25
kieranDOAWhat is it with people and trucks?05:25
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SurfnKidI love it too qpt``05:25
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bootlickUsing wireless keyboard and mouse on drapper, all works fine, except for a Ubuntu help window popping up after about three sentences of typing05:25
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kieranDOAqpt``: well thanks for that info05:25
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isugh, what is the app for sound control again?05:25
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NoWhereToTurnUbuntu installer is complaining about partition #2 of IDE1 has uncorrected errors..05:26
nomasteryodayeah!05:26
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JohnsonEoh man i totally forgot about 7zip. might as well use that.05:26
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lonegeekDr_Willis: quit yawning and help! lol05:26
Flannelhollowlife1987:05:26
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nickrudme yawns, and uses his magic control key :)05:26
Flannelerm, Hobbsee05:26
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nomasteryodablock his IP05:26
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winbondintelikey: i know i set up my /home mount point on a separate partition then /root05:26
|_ockeqjesus05:26
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Saleelanother question then, I installed the debian menu, and it doesnt show up at all, how do I fix this?05:26
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nomasteryodanalioth, trhanks05:26
CaptainMorgancduby1: trying to connect to a win box/router05:26
NoWhereToTurnI am unable to boot this computer since I wiped out the previous install of Ubuntu05:26
FlannelHobbsee: it's ok ;)05:26
SurfnKidNow i hate windows more than before05:27
naliothnomasteryoda: anybody else in that group?05:27
nickrudSaleel, Apps_>Accessories->Menu Editor05:27
nomasteryodanot that I know of05:27
intelikeywinbond that's not what i meant.   what are you doing looking at that from the live cd or something ?    why is it in /media ?05:27
bootlickNo sound on a SWF file I have , i belive all the files installed for swf, works fine on my windows box, what more can i try?05:27
JohnsonEoh my goddd why is it such a hassle to figure out how to open a rar file05:27
hangfiredoes anyone know how I can set the transparency on the console window so I can see windows (documents) benieth the console instead of the desktop?05:27
SaleelThanks nickrud05:27
cduby1CaptainMorgan, so what have you done so far?05:27
SurfnKidhangfire: are you on Dapper05:27
kieranDOAIm loving flux :-)05:27
SnoopsI can use alien to create a deb from a rpm right?05:27
elephanthunterIs there a way I can reset my sound settings? I was messing around with the volume control and now I no longer have any sound.05:27
hangfireyes05:27
CaptainMorganJohnsonE: that's pretty damn easy05:27
hollowlife1987Snoops: yes05:27
nomasteryodarar e05:27
nomasteryodaunrar e05:27
Dr_WillisJohnsonE,  install the right package and the archive guis can use them. or use the shell05:27
SurfnKidhangfire:  no idea :/05:27
ArafangionJohnsonE, Just install unrar05:27
FlannelSnoops: yep, if you cant find the program as a deb05:27
Flannel!tell Snoops about alien05:28
hangfirek thx anyway surfnkid05:28
Snoopsyeah I can't find xvidcap for amd64..05:28
CaptainMorgancduby1: downloaded smb4k, gave the smbmnt sudo permission and started smb4k, the client sees the workgroup, but that's it05:28
intelikeyah the bell.  back in a bit.05:28
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winbondintelikey: when i click on storage media it shows my 3 partitions , i guess thats why it calls it media05:28
CaptainMorgancan't connect05:28
ArafangionJohnsonE, Non free, indeed, but that's what you get for using non-conventional formats.05:28
qpt``HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT CRAPFLOODS? I LIKE THEM. HOW DO YOU05:28
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meherenok im having some troubles with ipod-linux i don't own a windows computer or a mac... and i can't seem to be able to install ipod-linux it says it needs to be a winpod ...? how would i format it windows?05:28
Flannel!ops05:28
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Snoopsbut there seems to be a mandriva rpm for amd6405:28
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issyhow do you change the audio settings in ubuntu, again?05:28
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tgadoes anyone have any idea how to get an Orinoco card working on Dapper?05:28
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nomasteryodapersistant biotch huh05:28
gbkyleanybody running a linksys WMP11 wifi card on dapper?05:28
ArafangionWhy is qpt`` somehow bypassing my xchat /ignore qpt`` all ?05:28
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nomasteryodatga, those should work otu of box05:29
nickrudsoop, what does a 20% increase of average members on this channel mean, over a year ago?05:29
naliothArafangion: he's coming in on different IPs05:29
SurfnKidforever gone05:29
elephanthunterI've already tried resetting my sound with sudo invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset, but that doesn't work.05:29
Snoopsmeans they're doing the right thing nickrud :D05:29
Arafangionnalioth, I see, I figured /ignore nick would only do a nick match.05:29
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lonegeekwhy is it that any xvid encoder that sounds good is only for dvd to xvid?05:29
cduby1CaptainMorgan, I'm assuming you've got the workgroup settings all correct and all, yes?05:29
tganomasteryoda: something is messed up in Dapper.. everything used to work fine in Breezy05:29
nickrudSnoops, you got me :)05:29
naliothArafangion: depends on the client,05:29
drcodehi all05:29
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rendoHe's proxying. :o05:29
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tganomasteryoda: now I get everything right in iwconfig but I can't get an ip05:29
Dr_Willislonegeek,  why is it people like to complain instead of  research. :P05:29
nomasteryodatga, the wireless manager is different here05:29
drcodeany one know if I can put fonts from windows xp to abiword?05:29
gbkyleYea i agree, somethings messed up with Dapper and wireless05:29
Saleelnicrud:  sorry, but there isnt any menu editor. do I install it?05:30
Arafangionnalioth, I'm explicitly mentioning xchat :)05:30
SurfnKidbrb05:30
nomasteryodai love it05:30
tganomasteryoda: I also tried a 2.5.12 kernel and it's the same deal05:30
meherenhow can do i compile a c source code file?05:30
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lonegeekDr_Willis, ive been searching for days....although your ffmpeg tip helped05:30
nomasteryodaway bettern' breezy imho05:30
JohnsonEok guys i'm having one heck of a time getting rar files to work.05:30
Dr_Willisdrcode,  linux can use the windows fonts.. and abiword uses them..05:30
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Flannel!tell meheren about build-essential05:30
naliothubotu: tell meheren about compile05:30
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hangfiremeheren, do you have gcc installed?05:30
issymeheren: check gcc05:30
kieranDOAmeheren: You need gcc.05:30
crysmeheren: gcc typically05:30
Dr_Willislonegeek,  :P i just use it to convert my videos to psp format.05:30
drcodeI need to convert it?05:30
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drcodeor somthing?05:30
elephanthunterAbout the wireless thing, the NetworkManager applet works very well.05:30
kieranDOAthen just gcc file.c -o file05:30
CaptainMorgancduby1: outside my box, yes - I can conenct to it with every other computer on the network and share whatever... but trying to get my Kubuntu box to connect to teh already working workgroup fails05:30
nomasteryodaJohnsonE, did you search the apt repos for rar?05:30
Dr_Willislonegeek,  i think the world needs yet MORE video codecs and formats! we dont have near enough05:30
kieranDOAYou might need to link with some libs though :-)05:30
drcodeIt seems that AbiWord dosnt recognize it05:30
elephanthunterBut you're probably talking about drivers or something.05:30
meherencrys, gcc path_to_file.c?05:30
NoWhereToTurnwhat the heck is going on with Daper Ubuntu! Is it still buggy??05:30
tganomasteryoda: it Just Doesn't WOrk for me.. with 2.6.16 I can't even associate with the AP05:30
HellDragonk05:31
winbondintelikey: when i click on storage media it shows my 3 partitions , i guess thats why it calls it media?05:31
ReleaseXI'm trying to get gtkwifi to work, nothing will show up when i try to refresh the list the wireless card works fine, and iwlist eth1 scan works, anyone know why this wouldn't work05:31
Dr_WillisNoWhereToTurn,  life is buggy. :P05:31
tgaNoWhereToTurn: yes05:31
hangfirebut after you have gcc installed its still not on the path, you have to install something else, forgot the name05:31
issyNoWhereToTurn: dude, I updated, and I regret it!  everything on my system is messed up now05:31
tgaissy: I hear you05:31
hangfiremeheren gcc filename.c -o filename05:31
issytga: is there any easy way to downgrade it?05:31
tgaissy: not that I know of05:31
NoWhereToTurnissy: what version should I use so I can get grub working and get this box back up and running???05:31
meherenhangfile, ok thx05:31
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winbondintelikey: system:/media/sda3 is my /home mount point05:31
crysmeheren: yes - if it's a single file and you want an exe - make path_to_file (without the .c extension) will usually work too05:32
issyNoWhereToTurn: use Breezy Badger05:32
JohnsonEI just installed unrar-free from synaptic and I STILL can't open rar files. I tried sudo apt-get install unrar and that didn't work.05:32
steveklI have a 2.4 ghz machine that I use (among other things) as a linux file server, from which I stream big files (videos). Now this works pretty well. Now I have this other machine, it's (apparently) a 448 mhz. If I use this as my primary file server, will things stream more slowly because the computer is low-end?05:32
nomasteryodatga, did you install the hostap driver?05:32
steveklOr is the only limiting factor network speed?05:32
hangfiremeheren be sure your file is in your current directory, probably your home directory05:32
winbondintelikey: system:/media/sda2 is my / mount point05:32
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NoWhereToTurnBreezy Badger is avaiable off www.ubuntu.com05:32
tganomasteryoda: I blacklisted the hostap modules as suggested in launchpad but that didn't help05:32
NoWhereToTurn?05:32
issyJohnsonE:  try command rar [rared package] 05:32
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we2how to load mp3s ? can it be done ?05:33
elephanthunter!sound05:33
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issyJohnsonE:  I think there is also a plugin for the Archive Manager you can get so you can use it to unrar packages05:33
tganomasteryoda: I am using the orinoco/orinoco_cs modules05:33
nomasteryodaright05:33
kieranDOA!mp305:33
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:33
naliothubotu: tell we2 about mp305:33
issy!tell we2 about restricted formats05:33
hangfiredoes anyone know how I can set the transparency on the console window so I can see windows (documents) benieth the console instead of the desktop?05:33
nomasteryodatga, but are you using the new wireless manager05:34
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nomasteryodagnome-network-manager?05:34
JohnsonEissy: it says that th command "rar" isn't found05:34
naliothJohnsonE: install 'unrar-nonfree' using synaptic05:34
tganomasteryoda: I don't have a gnome-network-manager05:34
Snoopshangfire this is with xgl/compiz?05:34
tganomasteryoda: I'm just using iwconfig and dhclient05:34
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nomasteryodaah, well that is what i'm using05:34
hangfirebash05:34
JohnsonEnalioth:  i did, it didn't do anything.05:34
issyJohnsonE:  try man unrar-free (if that's what it's called05:34
nomasteryodaworks evertime05:34
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gbkyleMaybe a stupid question, but is there any difference performance wise between breezy and dapper?05:34
nomasteryoda"automatically"05:34
naliothJohnsonE: it should.  unrar-nonfree works on everything05:34
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kieranDOAJohnson: sudo apt-get install unrar05:35
kafitzhi, does anyone have an experience with crossover office?05:35
NoWhereToTurnBrezzy is 5.10 of Ubuntu?05:35
hangfirenalioth- just the regular bash shell05:35
kieranDOAthen use unrar05:35
kieranDOA:-)05:35
JohnsonEkieran: i try that and get this:05:35
tganomasteryoda: gnome-network-preferences?05:35
kafitz*any05:35
nomasteryodajust sec tga05:35
issyJohnsonE:  okay it's command:  unrar-free [file] 05:35
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platypushow do i forcefully remove libc6 from my system ?05:35
FlannelNoWhereToTurn: yes05:35
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elephanthunterWould installing skype have turned off the sound on my computer? I swear it's not that I've muted anything.05:36
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JohnsonEissy: ok it tried to extract but all the files failed :O05:36
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cduby1CaptainMorgan, do you have static IPs on your network?05:36
AngryElfhow do i kill that silly update-notification bubble for good?05:36
Geoffrey2kafitz, I'm using a demo version....not sure that I'm very impressed with it so far05:36
issyJohnsonE:  I got that before....05:36
nomasteryodacalled "network-manager-gnome"05:36
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nomasteryodatga, that is it05:36
supertankerYo05:36
JohnsonEissy: hoe'd you fix it?05:36
steev-dellhey all, after doing an update today, i get the following when i run locale, and it appears that perl is borked (but working i think) http://pastebin.ca/6467805:36
issyJohnsonE:  haha, don't remember05:36
issyJohnsonE: lemme look into it05:36
kieranDOAJohnsonE: where are you trying to extract to and the files arent corrupt are they?05:37
tganomasteryoda, that only contains proxy information, nothing about wireless05:37
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supertankerHey whoever told me to create a new user to fix my "Cannot log in because it cannot identify the user" problem: didn't work. I had to reinstall from scratch05:37
kafitzGeoffrey2: well i have a problem perhaps you could help me wtih? or have any alternatives ofr microsoft office?05:37
nomasteryodaer, ok05:37
JohnsonEkieran: I'm extracting to desktop05:37
winbondDr_Willis:  system:/media/sda3 is my /home mount point, system:/media/sda2 is my / mount point  ,  i have /home/user in sda3 and sda2, it clones files in these 2 directories05:37
nomasteryodatga, the backen network-manager does the work and gets you online...05:37
tganomasteryoda, do you mean System > Administration > Networking?05:37
nomasteryodaJohnsonE, that depends on the rar file...  many include par files05:37
issyJohnsonE: what's the file's complete extension?05:37
elephanthunterI really hope that I don't need to reinstall dapper from scratch to reset the sound...05:38
nomasteryodatga, dapper?05:38
tgayes05:38
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nomasteryodatga, try running that command05:38
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nomasteryodait should put a tool in the tray05:38
JohnsonEissy: FruityloopsStudio.608.rar05:38
Geoffrey2kafitz, I haven't tried to install Microsoft Office using Crossover Office yet, and with OpenOffice coming with Ubuntu for free, I'm not likely to fiddle with it, to be honest05:38
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roostishawhow do i assign a partition to be a users home directory?05:38
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kafitzGeoffrey2: cause I really need to you publisher. After I installed Microsoft Office 2003, whatever app i click from the menu I get a "Could not launch menu item05:38
kafitzDetails: Failed to execute child process "/home/user/.cxoffice/win2000/desktopdata/cxmenu/StartMenu/Programs/Microsoft+Office/Microsoft+Office+Publisher+2003" (Permission denied)"05:38
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tganomasteryoda, that's just a front end.. all it does really is run dhclient in the background05:38
kafitzGeoffrey2: oh nevermind then05:39
nomasteryodaJohnsonE, that tool is called par2archive05:39
xonic!restrictedformats05:39
ubotusee !restricted05:39
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nomasteryodatga, ok05:39
xonic!restricted05:39
uboturumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.05:39
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JohnsonEnonmsateryoda: elaborate?05:39
nomasteryodathen that is the extent of my knowledge05:39
nomasteryodaJohnsonE, just sec05:39
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tganomasteryoda, hmm.. there is a network-manager-gnome, I'll give it a try05:40
n30nI need a good emulator. NOT WINE.05:40
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_ubuntuWhat's wrong with WINE?05:40
will<n30n> be more specific05:40
nomasteryodaJohnsonE, the file is called parchive05:40
polpakn30n: emulator for what?05:40
elephanthunterBlah, I guess I'm gonna start downloading that dapper dvd now. Hopefully I can find out what caused my sound to totally turn off before it happens again after reinstalling dapper.05:40
n30nRunning a linux windows envirment05:40
nomasteryodaJohnsonE, and par205:40
nomasteryodathose should allow05:40
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nomasteryodafixing the using the par files05:41
riverHi .. can someone please help me create a symlink for Java on Ubuntu 6 ...05:41
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polpakriver: why?05:41
nomasteryodaJohnsonE, just use "man par2" after installing05:41
SAM_themanNow everyone look at my Dapper Drake Desktop its still not done05:41
elephanthuntern3on: Wine is the best emulator out there.05:41
SAM_themanhttp://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3xb.png05:41
issygot it05:41
SAM_themanStill more worki05:41
polpakelephanthunter: wine is not an emulator05:41
JohnsonEnonmaster: so i should install parchive?05:41
SAM_theman*work05:41
lonegeekanybody know of a xvid encoder with a gui05:41
riverpolpak: because the kids want to play a game that requires Java and I think I need a symlink05:41
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drumline_yee haw...   even more folks in here05:41
n30nIt's not really an emulator05:41
issyJohnsonE:  try this: unrar -e [file] 05:41
polpakriver: you just need to install sun java most likely05:41
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polpakriver: see !java05:42
Dr_Willislonegeek,  check freshmeat.net05:42
polpak!tell river about java05:42
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steveklriver: You make your children play games on linux?05:42
elephanthunterpolpak: Wine is an emulator.... it emulates the function of Windows.05:42
JohnsonEissy: command not found05:42
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willbummer that Wine will not run Connectix Virtual Game Station  .....   psm emulator05:42
polpakelephanthunter: no it doesn't05:42
willpsx05:42
drumline_anyone use VMWare on Ubuntu?05:42
kieranDOAwine isnt an emulator05:42
riverpolpak: thanks .. i will see if that helps me out05:42
nomasteryodaJohnsonE, install par205:42
n30nElephanthunter: do you know that wine stands for wine is not an emulator?05:42
lonegeekwhat would be a good starting poing to learn to program...more specifally create linux programs05:42
stevekldrumline_: A long time ago05:42
kieranDOAIt impliments win32API05:42
elephanthunterhahah05:42
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drumline_kieranDOA: yes it is..  :)05:42
Dr_Willisthere are native ps1 emulators for linux.05:42
riverstevekl: no, they chose too play games on linux05:42
elephanthunterThat's just a silly acronymn :P05:43
drumline_stevekl: you used workstation?05:43
nickrudif I knew what to watch for, it might be more interesting05:43
issyJohnsonE: then what the heck program am I using ? o.)05:43
polpakelephanthunter: seems apropo to me05:43
nomasteryodaJohnsonE, if you are working from normal rar archives most do have par data to repair them05:43
n30nIt's not an emulator. Its a linux extension for windows programs05:43
drumline_elephanthunter: well..  it's perfectly in line with all the other silly acronyms like GNU  :)05:43
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drumline_n30n: is too05:43
polpaklonegeek: learn  a programming language05:43
drumline_yes huh!05:43
stevekldrumline_: I remember running XP in vmware a while ago05:43
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kieranDOAdrumline_: on what basis, It doesnt 'emulate' windows, it impliments win32api, unless im mistaken05:43
XVampireXelephanthunter, WINE IS NOT AN EMULATOR05:43
stevekldrumline_: It worked pretty well, actually05:43
drumline_stevekl: how was it?05:43
nomasteryodaSAM_theman, if you use flickr then you get no ad bs...05:43
nomasteryodaSAM_theman, http://www.flickr.com/photos/nomasteryoda05:43
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tganomasteryoda, I installed network-manager-gnome.. any idea what the front end is called?05:44
drumline_stevekl: cool...  were you able to gain access to the USB ports and all that jazz?05:44
XVampireXn00bs, go away05:44
JohnsonEnonmaster: ok i got par2 and ran man par2. what should i do?05:44
nomasteryodathere's mine and some good wallpaper for you05:44
SephirothIs RPM enabled in ubuntu by default?05:44
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n30nWine works as a way to run windows programs in linux, not emulate windows in linux05:44
nickrudSephiroth, no05:44
xonicanyone here installed the w32 codecs with xine?05:44
nomasteryodatga, it should be in the tray now05:44
stevekldrumline_: It actually worked very well. Vmware gave windows fake sound output and networking, and windows just went with it without complaining.05:44
RealKnightHi ubuntu users05:44
lonegeekpolpak: i had figured so...but what is a os indepedent one... C#, C?05:44
elephanthunterWow, is this some big thing? I mean, WINE is obviously an emulator, despite the name.05:44
polpak!tell Sephiroth about rpm05:44
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stevekldrumline_: Yeah USB worked as well05:44
RealKnightI am from Colombia South America05:44
xonicanyone here installed the w32 codecs with xine?05:44
drumline_stevekl: schweeeet!05:44
stevekldrumline_: Now 3d games didn't work, but that might work nowadays05:44
supertankerlonegeek: c++05:44
tganomasteryoda, mmkay, I'll give it a reboot05:44
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nomasteryodahttp://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/05:44
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nomasteryodanope05:44
nomasteryodano need05:44
kiko0123SAM_theman, which IM client is that?05:44
n30nelephanthunter, an emulator actually opens windows. IT makes it look as if you are logged in a windows install. Wine runs windows software in linux itself05:44
polpaklonegeek: C isn't terribly os independant. ANSI C is, but really you'll have to use cross platform libs. I'd suggest starting off with something clean and simple05:44
RealKnightI want to know if somebody have compiled GRASS 6.0.2 on Ubuntu05:45
kieranDOAPython :-)05:45
polpaklonegeek: like python or ruby (my preference is python)05:45
issyJohnsonE:  try apt-get install unrar05:45
issyJohnsonE: leave off the "free"05:45
schalkenis there a way to install an rpm (i have alien) through the GUI?05:45
n30nPowerPC is an emulator05:45
JohnsonEissy: i do that and get..05:45
stevekldrumline_: Well I didn't test anything USB except the mouse, for what it's worth05:45
kieranDOAelephanthunter: I dont understand how you clasify WINE as an emulator.05:45
gbkyleanybody running a linksys WMP11 wifi card on dapper?05:45
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xonicanyone here installed the w32 codecs with xine?05:45
n30ngbkyle:yeah05:45
polpakschalken: no, you use alien to convert the rpm into a deb, you can then install the deb with dpkg05:45
Geoffrey2elephanthunter, actually, if you go to the Wine website...they say flat out, this is not an emulator05:45
issyxonic:  I think I did once...05:46
JohnsonEissy: it says Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:46
JohnsonEThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:46
JohnsonEis only available from another source05:46
JohnsonEE: Package unrar has no installation candidate05:46
JohnsonEbah sorry05:46
gbkylen30n, it just worked? Its finding my card but I cant connect to my router05:46
xonicissy: remember wich site?05:46
JohnsonEneed to remember i'm not supposed to do that05:46
tgaelephanthunter, Wine Is Not an Emulator05:46
xonicissy: i found this one great sire but i reinstalled so i lost it05:46
issyJohnsonE: odd, it's showing up for me05:46
elephanthunterhttp://www.faqs.org/faqs/windows-emulation/wine-faq/ << Classifies WINE as a Windows emulator as well. I'm not the only one :P05:46
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polpakelephanthunter: you don't really understand what an emulator is, clearly.05:46
n30ngbkyle: Try shutting down, and booting up with the card not installed, and then shut down and install the card again.05:46
steveklAntec makes good cases, right?05:46
tganomasteryoda, fancy, it spins!05:47
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issyxonic:  you can just get it off the ubuntu archive05:47
dave__hi05:47
gbkylen30n, like take the card out, then put it back in?05:47
n30ngnkyle: I seem to remember thats how i got mine to work.05:47
dave__montoone is suppose te be installed with ubuntu05:47
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nomasteryodatga, cool05:47
dave__does anyone know where ic an find that package int he repository05:47
gbkylen30n, thats weird lol05:47
nomasteryodait also should get you on05:47
issyxonic:  apt-cache search w32codecs05:47
nomasteryoda=D05:47
JohnsonEshould i just download 7zip and get it over with? :|05:47
drumline_stevekl: yeah.. .that would be cool if 3d worked..   but hey.. I don't play games anymore.  So, it's all gravy.05:47
n30ngbkyle: yes, but boot up linux with it out once. ANd then restart and put it in.05:47
gbkylen30n, alright..05:47
stevekldave__: uh, 'apt-cache search montoone'?05:47
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dave__i did05:47
dave__letme try again05:47
schalkenpolpak: okay can only be done through the CLI, thanks!05:47
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CaptainMorgancduby1: no - dhcp05:47
crimsun_dave__: did you misspell 'monotone'?05:47
elephanthunterHahah, I'm a programmer. I am logical. I understand that WINE emulates windows functions in the linux environment without the need of a virtual machine. Hence, wine is an emulator.05:47
issyJohnsonE:  if you wanna, I don't see why unrar isn't showing up for you05:47
nickruddave__, http://packages.ubuntu.com05:48
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roostishawhow can i tell if a folder is a seperate partition, or just another folder?05:48
n30ngbkyle: if it doesn't work just come back and i will assist you further.05:48
stevekldrumline_: Yeah, why is that? Are they not allowed to, or is vmware just unable to?05:48
polpakelephanthunter: it does not "emulate" anything05:48
drumline_stevekl: Thanks for your input...  :)   ...I plan to switch the base OS to linux completely and run XP where it should be...  From within a cage...05:48
lonegeekin bash how do i go up one folder?05:48
n30ndrumline_ lol05:48
JohnsonEissy: ok should i download the i386 version of 7zip? >_>05:48
steveklSpeaking of vmware, can you run OSX in vmware?05:48
drumline_stevekl: I think it was a problem related to demand...05:48
kieranDOAelephanthunter: I dont under stand how a different implimentation of something is an emulator.05:48
nickrudroostishaw, I've always used mount to see my mounts05:48
polpakelephanthunter: you clearly don't get it. If you are a programmer you should understand the difference between emulating a windows environment and implementing an API05:48
issyJohnsonE:  never used 7zip, have fun with it :)05:48
roostishawnickrud, just type  mount?05:48
winbond== system:/media/sda3 is my /home mount point, system:/media/sda2 is my / mount point  ,  i have /home/user in sda3 and sda2, it clones files in these 2 directories, why does it do it?05:49
n30npolpak: thank you. You are my hero.05:49
crimsun_JohnsonE: sure, it's p7z in universe.05:49
issystevekl: you can, like, run anything in vmware, just don't expect it to run very well05:49
nickrudroostishaw, mount | sort makes it clearere05:49
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nickrudrem_, clearer05:49
drumline_n30n: :-)  1 XP with the quickbooks install running on its own network...   and the other for any stupid non-standard internet crap we occasionally run into..05:49
RealKnightDoes somebody has any experience with GRASS?05:49
xonicissy: it didn't do anything05:49
steveklissy: huh, ok05:49
crimsun_JohnsonE: sorry, p7zip.05:49
nickruderm, roostishaw clearer: mount | sort05:49
johnnyrussowhat package do i need to get my line in playing thru my speakers? realtek chip05:49
tganomasteryoda, the network manager is fancy and all but it doesn't seem to fix the problem.. still no IP05:49
n30ndrumline: sweet.05:49
issyxonic:  okay, for some reason stuff is comin' up on my apt-cache searches that isn't coming up for other people05:49
roostishawnickrud, thank you!05:49
issythat's weird05:49
crimsun_johnnyrusso: none, just adjust the Line element.05:50
elephanthunterAre you guys trying to mess with me? WINE is just as much an emulator as LAME is an mp3 encoder.05:50
drumline_n30n: you hear about Pacifica?05:50
JohnsonEok i just installed the pzip package. how do i get to it :(05:50
johnnyrussocrimsun_: found where?05:50
nomasteryodatga, you using encryption?05:50
n30ndrumline_: nahuh05:50
nickrudelephanthunter, I'd guess so then05:50
gbkylen30n, by the way, which version of the WMP11 do you have?05:50
issyJohnsonE:  try man pzip05:50
nomasteryodatga, turn card off and on again05:50
tganomasteryoda, yes, 64-bit wep05:50
Dr_Williselephanthunter,  you are confused as to the definiton of emulator05:50
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issyJohnsonE:  that should tell you all you need05:50
n30ngbkyle: uhhhh idk ill go look05:50
gbkylen30n, ok thanks..05:51
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winbond== system:/media/sda3 is my /home mount point, system:/media/sda2 is my / mount point  ,  i have /home/user in sda3 and sda2, it clones files in these 2 directories, how can i fix it?05:51
kieranDOAelephanthunter: My bike has wheels, is it emulating a bus?05:51
JohnsonEissy: no manual for p7zip05:51
drumline_n30n: AMD's answer to Intel's VT.   It's the tech that significantly lowers the overhead on running virtual operating systems.  It is in all AM2 socket chips and Intel's newer chips..05:51
johnnyrussodoes ubuntu have a volume control panel like windows?05:51
n30ngbkyle: 2.7?05:51
xonicanyone know how to install the w32codecs and xine?05:51
riverpolpak: when I tty to add it, I get a msge that says it isn't available ...05:51
gbkylen30n, ok.. i got the original one i think05:51
issykieranDOA:  what an interesting way to start a philosophical discussion05:51
nickrudwinbond, that is not clear: if you'd post /etc/fstab on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/05:51
Geoffrey2it would be nice if i could just do away with Windows...but at this point there is simply some software that I haven't found a good Linux subsitute for YET...so either I find a way to run it under Ubuntu well, or keep a dedicated XP partition for that stuff05:51
n30ndrumline_: i see.05:51
Dr_Willis!w32codecs05:51
ubotua compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439905:52
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issyJohnsonE:  okay, it's p7zip, you downloaded and installed the package, and it has no manual?05:52
n30nAm i the only one that has tried windows vista?05:52
johnnyrussowhat about support for ati Xx00 chips on the 64bit version?05:52
SephirothNo05:52
xiceGeoffrey2, have you tried Cedega, or Crossover office05:52
steveklissy: Do you happen to know if a non-x86 operating system can run on vmware on a x86 syste05:52
steveklm?05:52
drumline_n30n: instead of 30% overhead, it's down to 5%...   pretty sweet stuff.  Anyway...  with a dual core, it'll be a breeze to run 3-4 operating systems at once...    And when the quad cores come out later this year, the sky will be the limit...05:52
JohnsonEissy: i typed p7zip and got "no manual entry"05:52
nickrudGeoffrey2, without exact needs, no one can recommend replacements05:52
issystevekl:  not personally, no05:52
johnnyrussosteveki no05:52
SAM_themanI love my nvidia card05:52
JohnsonEman p7zip*05:52
SAM_themanhttp://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot39nm.png05:53
stevekljohnnyrusso: orly05:53
n30ndrumline_: sweetness05:53
kieranDOAyarly05:53
johnnyrussostevekl: what?05:53
rivercan anyone help me to get Java working in Ubuntu 6?05:53
elephanthunterkieronDOA: Considering that the bus has added functionality and was created after the bike, it probably would not be classified as an emulator.05:53
drumline_I want a quad core right now...  *sniffle*05:53
n30noh god I'm so tired05:53
steveklcave05:53
tganomasteryoda, not a chance :\05:53
elephanthunterbleh, I mean the bike wouldn't05:53
n30nso tired i can't talk computers correctly...05:53
drumline_n30n: hit the sack...   see you tomorrow.  :)05:53
Geoffrey2I'm using Crossover office at present...the most recent version of Media Player it supports is 6.405:53
issyJohnsonE:  okay, you got p7zip using apt-get install, right?05:53
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Fr0Gshey all05:54
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Fr0GsSAM_theman, yo!05:54
n30ndrumline_: yeah that's the plan. see ya.05:54
Fr0Gslol05:54
nomasteryodatga, hmmm wep should be fine... using it here too but 128bit05:54
JohnsonEissy: I downloaded it from synapti05:54
kieranDOAelephanthunter: Same goes for windows(Not the latter part of your statement obviously), its more than just an API.05:54
winbondnickrud: im not sure what you mean by /etc/fstab,05:54
drumline_n30n: peace05:54
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ToHellWithGAyarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr05:54
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SAM_themanYO frogs!!!!05:54
xiceGeoffrey2, well media player is never meant for linux05:54
dihi, how do i install anjuta 2.0205:54
diapt installs 1.2405:54
ToHellWithGAdi: go to the project webpage and build it from source05:55
nickrudwinbond, Apps->Accessories>Text Editor, use that to open /etc/fstab. Then cut and past those contents to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/05:55
steveklUse vim for god's keys05:55
ToHellWithGAdi:after uninstalling the package05:55
nickrudwinbond, the text in /etc/fstab defines how your hard drives are read05:55
diToHellWithGA: i hope dep hell doesnt happen05:55
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drumline_use JOE05:55
tganomasteryoda, thanks for the network-manager tip, I'll mess with the encryption now05:55
winbondnickrud: ok05:55
steveklPunch the console editor for god's keys!05:55
ToHellWithGAdi: it's not dependency hell.  it's you choosing to run bleeding edge software and having to grow a pair of balls, step up to the plate, and install what is needed to run your damn program05:56
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ToHellWithGAthen hitting a home run by installing all dependencies and damn running it05:56
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Hobbseedrumline_: hehe!05:56
drumline_:)05:57
nomasteryodatga, welcome dude05:57
ToHellWithGAnomasteryoda: me?05:57
elephanthunterkieranDOA: You're just being silly. Wine is obviously just emulating the functions of the Windows API on linux. It's silly to even talk about this :P05:57
ToHellWithGAwho is tga?05:57
ToHellWithGAthat's, like, a shortening of my nick05:57
nomasteryodaer nope05:57
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ToHellWithGAi'm entirely too lost05:57
nomasteryodatga that is05:57
Snoopsincluding the bugs :)05:58
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winbondnickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15586 here it is05:58
SephirothHave any of you guys attempted the get computer help in an AIM chatroom?  It's impossible.05:58
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Dr_Willis emulating the functions of the api is not the same as a 'emulator' that emulates hardware.05:58
kieranDOAelephanthunter: Lets just agree to disagree?05:58
elephanthunterYeah, that's a virtual machine, Dr_Willis05:58
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Dr_WillisSephiroth,  the only things ive seen in AIM chat rooms is XXX spam bots.05:58
Dr_Williselephanthunter,  no.. thats somthing else :P05:58
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Snoopsisn't that like trying to get help in an AIM chatroom Sephiroth..oh wait..05:59
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ToHellWithGASephiroth: that's so silly you made me laugh a belly laugh05:59
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elephanthunterDr_Willis, depends on how much hardware you emulate.05:59
SephirothWell if you've ever been to a chatroom in aim.....05:59
thomasMbelly laugh... lol.05:59
SAM_themanFr0Gs, type etswitch for linux in google05:59
stephan__for some reason my connection is screwing up in dapper.....is they're a  way i can test it or see whats wrong06:00
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SephirothI mean if it's not bots, it's retards talking about sex06:00
nickrudwinbond, winbond == system:/media/sda3 is my /home mount point, system:/media/sda2 is my / mount point  ,  i have /home/user in sda3 and sda2, it clones files in these 2 directories, how can i fix it?06:00
ToHellWithGAstephan__: sudo umount all06:00
Dr_Williselephanthunter,  now you are just rambling...06:00
drumline_Just think..  when Microsoft drops support altogether for Win2k, a security firm will take over and charge for their own security updates...06:00
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Dr_Willishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulator  - the definitive answer. :)06:00
troytroyhi what does this error mean "/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory"06:00
winbondnickrud: yes? are you asking me my question?06:00
drumline_There might even be some profitability to that market..06:00
detectiveinspekti upgraded to dapper but open office is missing. Does the upgrade uninstall it?06:01
Sephiroth^wikipedia knows all06:01
Dr_WillisToHellWithGA,  that works for windows tech support!06:01
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troytroyand how do i resolve it06:01
ToHellWithGADr_Willis: hooray!06:01
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thomasMnickrud thats wierd. i think what happened, is one time you logged in, and you didn't have the correct permissions for sda3, so it asks you if you'd like to make your home in root, I think that's what happened.06:01
ToHellWithGAi am drunk and will go eat06:01
ToHellWithGApeace out06:01
SAM_themanFr0Gs, ??06:01
xiceyou hear that theres security problems in win98/ME that MS cant even fix :p06:01
elephanthunterAt the bottom there is "See Also: ... WINE" :P06:01
nickrudthomasM, hm. Cuz the fstab of winbond06:02
nickrud's is very standard.06:02
Dr_Williselephanthunter,  and that proves nothing.06:02
ToHellWithGAxice: NO WAI!06:02
lonegeekis there anything similar to frontrow for linux? any sort of simple media center06:02
Sephirothxice, I've never seen Microsoft make a halfway decent operating system.06:02
ubuntuFirst, I've googled, with several phrases and I've read a lot about it but not a lot about how to fix it from my current situation. I'm having an issue similar to the one described in the following URL, however, all I can get to is the BusyBox prompt like they said and the drives are locked in this live version of Kubuntu Dapper that I am currently running. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/3212306:02
ToHellWithGAthey can fix the windows 98 issues but aren't willing to do it for free as "updates"06:02
kieranDOA"Wine Is Not an Emulator" (rather, it implements a compatibility layer),06:02
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Geoffrey2xice, well, considering both OS's are hitting the end of their support cycle with this next security release, they really don't have much incentive to even try06:03
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nickrudwinbond, you mention /home/usrr in sda3  & sda2,  that doesn't make sense06:03
John-Zgood lord.06:03
elephanthunterDr_Willis, I've just cited the article that you decided was the "definitive answer". Now your telling me that it proves nothing... why?06:03
xiceoh well, poor ms06:03
EvilIdlerubuntu: Got a non-booting initramfs?06:03
Dr_Williselephanthunter,  because you aparently dident bother to read it..or the wine link.06:03
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John-ZI have a radeon card.. ati .. I have tried every howto on getting the drivers recognized for 3d excel.06:03
xiceim actually in the phase of completelt removing my NTFS formatted drives06:03
SephirothThat's why I use linux whenever I can, rarely a need for security upgrades.06:03
John-ZSPent 5+ hours.06:03
issy*sigh*  I hate it when I can't find a manual for something06:03
SephirothI can't stand windows anymore.......06:03
Dr_Williselephanthunter,  and im sick of your trolling.06:03
winbondnickrud: i know , but thats the way it is on my pc06:04
ConstyWhats the best way to go about optimizing ubuntu to reduce memory usage?  I only have 192 megs of ram and a lot of swap space is used.06:04
NoWhereToTurnIt is going to take an hour to get breezy via the torrent.. seems I have nothing but a struggle with ubuntu.. is this usually the case with this distro?06:04
ToHellWithGAJohn-Z: you need MS Excel in 3D?  It's a spreadsheet for god's sake.06:04
winbondnickrud: can i post screenshots there?06:04
kieranDOAelephanthunter: Click on the wine link in the wikipedia article, It does clearly state that it is NOT an emulator, therefore you cited nothing.06:04
SephirothStop argueing about WINE please.06:04
John-ZNo!06:04
SephirothJust agree to disagree.06:04
elephanthunterhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatibility_layer06:04
John-Zsorry, typo.06:04
ubuntuYes, Evildler, I get the /dev/hda1 cannot be found error and from the best I can tell that is the problem, I just don't know how I can reconfigure it without being in a workable Kubuntu installation that lets me have access to that drive.06:05
John-Z3d rendering.06:05
ToHellWithGAJohn-Z: that's what you said.  "I have tried every howto on getting the drivers recognized for 3d excel."06:05
winbondnickrud: actually i dont even know how to take a screenshot with using linux06:05
elephanthunter"A compatibility layer allows binaries for an emulated system to run on a host system."06:05
nickrudwinbond, /etc/fstab defines your drives, and how they are mounted. It looks very normal. So, what exactly is the problem?06:05
John-ZToHellWithGA: if you want to be a dick, dont.06:05
ToHellWithGAyou and your MS Excel can rot.  OpenOffice forever :p06:05
ConstyNoWhereToTurn: What are your problems with it?06:05
ToHellWithGAwhat's not working John-Z?06:05
EvilIdlerubuntu: IF you can get an earlier kernel package installed from the recovery mode of the install CD/DVD, yaird can be installed.06:05
John-ZApparently the new ati driver is not supported with my card.06:05
issyToHellWithGA:  if only OpenOffice had necessary functions in its spreadsheet program06:05
winbondnickrud: that /home/user/ is in 2 different partitions with exactly the same files06:05
John-ZI have a radeon 9000 M906:06
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John-ZSo.. I installed the driver manually..06:06
EvilIdlerubuntu:I upgraded from Breezy and had the same problem, but sorted it by booting the Breezy kernel, installing yaird and making my own initramfs06:06
NoWhereToTurnConsty well for one I wiped out my old hoary isntall thinking that I could get draper installed06:06
ToHellWithGAissy: if only MS Office weren't so damned goofy about its implementation of fairly simple functions in Excel06:06
troy_sissy: Well it isn't going to get them if people fail to use it.06:06
NoWhereToTurnI can not even get past the partitioner06:06
detectiveinspekti upgraded to dapper but open office is missing. Does the upgrade uninstall it?06:06
John-ZIts still showing the mesa driver.06:06
ConstyNoWhereToTurn: how much memory do you have?06:06
John-ZNot the ati driver I installed.06:06
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nf4this freenose thing is a joke06:06
SephirothI'm suprised I even see "MS" or "Windows" in an Ubuntu support channel.06:06
EvilIdlerubuntu:Alternatively, I can upload my working initramfs somewhere so you can try it06:07
kholerabbiHow do I defragment my hdds06:07
issyToHellWithGA:  I suppose you can either have easy complex functions, or easy simple functions, but not both *shrug*06:07
ToHellWithGAJohn-Z: is there a .conf file you should point to your driver?06:07
nickrudwinbond, not according to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15586 . There is no /home/user defined there, only /home06:07
nf4is there any freenode mods in here06:07
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John-Zno.06:07
nf4the freenode channle is blocked06:07
nf4you cant get any help06:07
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JohnsonEok this rar stuff is really starting to piss me off :(06:07
NoWhereToTurnConsty: I think in that box about 284MB06:07
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NoWhereToTurn384MB06:07
NichirasuI have a question06:07
issyJohnsonE:  yeah, I gave up with p7zip06:07
troy_sJohnsonE: issue?06:07
ubuntuEvildler: That would probably be the best for me, as I've only been using linux for a few weeks so most of that is way over my head for the moment. I can provide FTP access to a server.06:07
nf4the one person that i can / msg told me to foff06:07
Nichirasuwhen I try and run ettercap from the terminal window I keep receiving this message06:07
troy_sJohnsonE: What is your issue with rar???06:07
NichirasuPlease select an User Interface06:07
issytroy_s:  he needs to unrar something06:07
John-ZHas anyone installed and gotten the ATI drivers to work on slightly older ATI card?06:07
ConstyNoWhereToTurn: and what happens when you get to the partitioner?  have you tried the alternative install cd instead of the desktop?06:07
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kholerabbiCAN you defragment hardrives under linux - is it even neccesary?06:08
EvilIdlerubuntu: OK, message me privately and we can try sorting your ramfs :)06:08
issytroy_s, he can't seem to get unrar from the ubuntu archive06:08
Dr_Williskholerabbi,  not needed.06:08
elephanthunterAnyhow, I wasn't always here to argue about whether or not WINE is an emulation system. In all reality, I came here because my Google searches did not bear fruit to solve my sound issues. If anybody knows a decent way to reset or reconfigure the sound on Dapper, I would be greatly appreciative.06:08
John-ZIm still showing fglrx is still using the mesa drivers.06:08
JohnsonEtroy: no issue, i just can't get any archiver working!06:08
NoWhereToTurnIf I want to use 1 partition for ubuntu it has to be / ... correct?06:08
troy_sJohnsonE: Did you add the rar package?  If you add unrar you get full support in the default archiver.06:08
winbondnickrud: i know , /home is a mount point ,  /user is my account username which is in the / partition and /home partition06:08
ConstyJohn-Z: I have, a big thing was that gnome wouldn't work period.. it would default in 640x48006:08
kholerabbiDr_Willis: Would it be possible to derag an ntfs drive then?06:08
JohnsonEtry: i tried rar, unrar, unrar-free, p7zip... none worked06:08
kieranDOAkholerabbi: You CAN, but its not as necisary as in windows,06:08
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Nichirasuit doesn't say which interface to choose though so I'm not sure what to type06:08
Dr_Williskholerabbi,  i would not eevn want to attempt such a thing.06:08
kholerabbiOK cheers :)06:08
ConstyJohn-Z: The problem ended up being that the detection couldn't read the settings of my monitor so I had to manually edit xorg.conf and add them, after finding out what my refresh rates were via ddcprobe then it worked perfect.06:09
kholerabbilol thanks06:09
troy_sJohnsonE: Do you have a sample file?  It works flawlessly here.06:09
John-ZIm trying to implement xgl.. but the rendering is so damn slow because fxglrx will not recognize the correct drivers.06:09
Nichirasuall it says is "Please select an User Interface"06:09
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Dr_Williskholerabbi,  you dont want to write to ntfs under linux. much less defrag it.06:09
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JohnsonEtroy: i have a file, yes.06:09
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ConstyJohn-Z: So I would suggest checking your xorg.conf and seeing if you have Horiz and Vert syncs in there.06:09
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k31thAnyone know a way of intergrating windows / linux auth ? we have windows and linux  servers (we are a school). And when kids forget a password its a PITA... anyone know of a way atm the linux box is running LDAP and the windows servers are Active Directory.06:09
nf4i dont get it my nick is registerd06:09
nf4but when i type my pass it says it is worng06:09
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John-ZConsty: The display is fine.. im speaking about 3d rendering.06:09
JohnsonEtroy: i type sudo apt-get install rar and it says there's no installation candidate06:09
kieranDOADamnit, again, misread a comment, I really need to start reading what people say properly.06:09
nf4and it wont let me idenitfy my self06:09
ConstyJohn-Z: Oh, ati sucks.. sorry :(06:09
crimsun_JohnsonE: enable multiverse06:09
Dr_Willis!info rar06:09
John-Zapt-cache search rar06:10
uboturar: (Archiver for .rar files), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 476 kB06:10
John-Ztry that.06:10
Nichirasuany help would greatly be appreciated06:10
Nichirasuthanks06:10
nf4so i cant /msg people06:10
troy_sJohnsonE: unrar is there...06:10
Constyjust run apt-get unrar-nonfree06:10
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nickrudwinbond, it should only exist on the /home partition06:10
kholerabbiI am trying it install java for firefox, on Sun's website there is only rpms and bin files.. What is the best way to install java?06:10
issytroy_s:  maybe he needs the multiverse settings on?06:10
John-Zbin file06:10
troy_sPackage: unrar Priority: optional Section: multiverse06:10
Dr_Williskholerabbi,  its apt-get able now. no need to mess with suns site06:10
nickrudwinbond, it meaning, the home for your user06:10
JohnsonEtroy: tell me what to do and i'll try it.06:10
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Dr_Willis!info java06:10
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xicekholerabbi, the .bin06:10
NichirasuI downloaded ettercap fom the synaptic download manager06:10
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troy_sJohnsonE: What do you use for a package manager?  Synaptic or apt-get?06:10
Constykhorlerabbi: Use synaptic and search for java jdk, and install it along with the mozilla java plugin.06:10
kholerabbiDr_Willis: It is - Nice :)06:11
elephanthunterThanks to the wonders of the new Java licensing <.<06:11
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JohnsonEtroy: i've tried both06:11
DaveragAnyone knows how to send an HTML message from the command line with mail ?06:11
Dr_Williskholerabbi,  sun just recently changed their license. so it can be done06:11
issyI'm off to bed peeps06:11
NoWhereToTurnTrying Draper again.. This time I am getting "Not yet implemented" This ext2 file system has a rather strange layout! Parted can't resize this (yet).06:11
troy_sJohnsonE: You will need to add a repository to your sources.list... load synaptic and I'll step you thru it.06:11
Nichirasuanyone?06:11
issyoutties06:11
kholerabbiEccelente - what's the package called?06:11
NoWhereToTurnWhat th heck is this distro doing?06:11
JohnsonEtroy: loaded.06:11
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ubuntuEvildler, I'm trying to register my nick so I can message you now.06:11
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troy_sJohnsonE: Under settings->Repositories06:12
EvilIdlerubuntu: You could join #nodev, too06:12
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kholerabbinickrud: why?06:12
JohnsonEtroy: yeah06:12
winbondnickrud: yes , you are right , but i have the home for my user cloned on the root partition06:12
troy_sJohnsonE: Under the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (binary) highlight... click the EDIT button.06:12
Nichirasu???06:12
nickrudkholerabbi, cuz they seldom understand dfsg ? :)06:12
JohnsonEtry: check multiverse?06:13
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JohnsonEtroy***06:13
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neoxanhelp06:13
troy_sJohnsonE: Check them all :)06:13
neoxanEntpacke sun-java5-jre (aus .../sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb) ...06:13
neoxansun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presented06:13
SAM_themanGuys I can't open gedit as root!!!06:13
neoxan?06:13
kholerabbi:)06:13
neoxanhow to fix that?06:13
RamiKassabhey guys, is there a way to ensure that the repositories apt is searching have the most updated software? The xchat-gnome app I am using is version 0.11 and I did "sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome" and it says I have the newest version but the newest version at xchat.org is 2.6.406:13
troy_sSAM_theman: sudo gedit06:13
Nichirasucould somebody help me with this please?06:13
nickrudwinbond, based on what you showed me on the pastebin, this clone stuff makes absolutley no sense sofar06:13
NoWhereToTurnWhy am I am getting "Not yet implemented" This ext2 file system has a rather strange layout! Parted can't resize this (yet).???06:13
troy_sSAM_theman: or gksudo gedit06:13
neoxandoes anyone else have problems with java5 sun package?06:13
lonegeekcan geexbox be installed within ubuntu?06:14
neoxan"sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presented"06:14
JohnsonEtroy: sudo apt-get install rar still says no installation candidate06:14
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NoWhereToTurnResize? I never told it to resize a partition!!06:14
SAM_themanhttp://pastebin.com/70375206:14
kholerabbiDo I just install the Java Web Start package??.. Or is there a smaller package - I just want to run it in Firefox??06:14
troy_sramikassab:  it will be whatever the repository has as latest06:14
redrumjre2 SAM_theman06:14
Dr_Willisneoxan,  not really  - BUT install it with synaptic. not the apt-get/apitude cli commands.06:14
troy_sJohnsonE: You are in synaptic right?06:14
SAM_themanhuh??06:14
redrumj2re even06:14
bobertdosTo anyone with any advice: is there a way to safely remove previous images of Ubuntu after and upgrade, or do they depend on one another?06:14
JohnsonEtroy: yes06:14
troy_sJohnsonE: How about we do what I suggested first, click edit, check all the boxes.06:14
SAM_themanJava?06:14
neoxanwhy not Dr_Willis, thats the same, isnt it?06:14
redrumSAM_theman yes.06:14
JohnsonEtroy: i did06:14
winbondnickrud: do you have /home on separate partition then root?06:14
SAM_themanAnd i need to edit somthing to06:14
troy_sJohnsonE: Ok now click SEARCH06:14
redrumuse the synaptic manager06:15
SAM_themanwhats jre2 have to do with that?06:15
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troy_sJohnsonE:  sorry, first you need to click the RELOAD button.06:15
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RamiKassabtroy_s: why is it saying 0.11 is the latest though? 2.6.4 is the latest at xchat.org06:15
Dr_Willisneoxan,  if it was the same.. it would work both ways.. :P theres an 'issue' with the java package and how the messages get shown during install06:15
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troy_sRamiKassab:  Is that version a fork?06:15
RamiKassabyou mean an offshoot for gnome?06:15
JohnsonEtroy: ok what do i search06:15
troy_sJohnsonE: Done that yet?06:15
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troy_sRamiKassab: Exactly, my brother.06:15
JohnsonEtroy: yes06:16
neoxanok, thanks Dr_Willis, its works06:16
RamiKassabtroy_s: :) not sure, very well could be since the package name is xchat-gnome06:16
neoxan:*06:16
RamiKassabtroy_s: do you use gnome?06:16
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RamiKassabtroy_s: I mean do you use xchat06:16
troy_sRamiKassab: Most everything in good old Ubuntu is geared towards Gnome if you use Ubuntu and KDE if you use KDE06:16
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Dr_Willisneoxan,  aparently that little 'eula' popup dont work right when using it from the shell.06:16
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troy_sJohnsonE: Ok now click SEARCH, and using NAME type "unrar"06:16
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JohnsonEtroy: done06:17
k31this there a channel for edubuntu ?06:17
JohnsonEtroy: applying the install now06:17
RamiKassabtroy_s: removing xchat using apt and just downloading it myself from xchat.org would be fine though wouldn't it?06:17
kieranDOATime for a  cuppa' brb06:17
RamiKassabtroy_s: I mean, I don't necessarily have to use the xchat-gnome package for it to work06:17
troy_sJohnsonE: Once that is done, and applied, theoretically you should have unraring within the archiver.  Also the CLI version of unrar will do all the multi-parts for you.06:17
Fujitsuk31th, #edubuntu/06:17
Fujitsu*?06:17
bigfoot1i switched over from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. where's the icon on my drawer? i don't even know the program name to make it run from terminal. but it's called X-Lite Softphone06:17
troy_sRamiKassab: No you don't... that just steers it towards the GNOME look and feel via GTK etc.06:17
bobertdosk3lth: Yes, it is #edubuntu, also on this server06:18
drumline_bigfoot1: right click?06:18
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JohnsonEtroy: ahhh thank you so much, it worked06:18
n30nDrumline_: can't sleep :(06:18
bigfoot1drumline_: nothing to rightclick06:18
troy_sJohnsonE: Glad I could be of service.06:18
bigfoot1it's gone06:18
RamiKassabalso, this is a random question but how do you change your pass in IRC? I registered this nick and would like to change the pass06:18
bigfoot1the icon is gone06:18
troy_sRamiKassab: Try /msg nickserv help06:18
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drumline_n30n: you ever wake up sore?06:18
FujitsuRamiKassab, you could just use the xchat package. I don't use xchat-gnome...06:18
drumline_bigfoot1: right click on the open desktop06:18
n30ndrumline_ Sometimes06:18
kieranDOAI just downloaded xchat from apt-get, Using 2.6.106:18
drumline_n30n: 1 sec06:19
FujitsukieranDOA, same.06:19
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troy_skieranDOA: I think he was looking at the version for xchat-gnome.06:19
bigfoot1drumline_: i'm on xubuntu06:19
RamiKassabFujitsu: you downloaded it right from their website though right?06:19
Fujitsutroy_s, yes, he was.06:19
FujitsuRamiKassab, no.06:19
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nickrudah, xchat. xchat-gnome is a bust06:19
bigfoot1what's the command to run X-Lite06:19
bigfoot1?06:19
RamiKassabtroy_s: thanks06:19
neoxanxchat-gnome sucks06:19
neoxan:(06:19
FujitsuRamiKassab, just install the `xchat' package, rather than `xchat-gnome'.06:19
drumline_bigfoot1: never tried it...   I sometimes see the minimalist window managers using the left and right clicks on the open desktops though.06:19
winbondnickrud: i think you are right , i dont think its cloning it , it just makes me think it does the way the shortcuts work   in the system06:19
Fujitsuneoxan, it's not very good, no.06:19
troy_sRamiKassab: Just use the repos... xchat-gnome just helps the frontend look like GNOME and fit in with the desktop via the various GNOMEisms.06:19
RamiKassabFujitsu: I tried searching for it and there is nothing for just 'xchat'06:20
n30ndrumline_ whats this about being sore when i wake up?06:20
Geoffrey2the latest version of xchat for Ubuntu is 2.6.106:20
nickrudwinbond, quite possibly.06:20
bigfoot1how can i found out the command name if i only know the program name?06:20
FujitsuRamiKassab, you need to enable the universe repository.06:20
Fujitsuubotu, tell RamiKassab about repos06:20
n30ndrumline_ i feel like im about to enter a sleep number bed commercial o,o06:20
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RamiKassabFujitsu: ah, that's what I was trying to get to... thanks06:20
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JohnsonEjust as a refresher can someone tell me the path to the wine folder? :D06:20
rivercan anyone tell me the symlink to get java working in ububtu6 ... please ?!?06:20
bobertdosTo anyone with any advice: is there a way to safely remove previous images of Ubuntu after and upgrade, or do they depend on one another?06:20
RamiKassabFujitsu: I knew there was a repo I needed to enable for that06:20
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FujitsuWhich reminds me... I need to update that page.06:20
troy_sJohnsonE: Eek.06:20
Fujitsubobertdos, images?06:20
Fujitsubobertdos, kernels?06:21
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bobertdosWell, yes, kernels06:21
JohnsonEsorry, i'm still horrifyingly new to linux.06:21
AdmiralCrunchanyway to get simple effects such as drop shadows without compiz?06:21
troy_sJohnsonE: What functionality do you require?06:21
Fujitsubobertdos, just remove the linux-image-2.6.15-whatever06:21
winbondnickrud: sorry for taking up ur time on this , and thank you06:21
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RamiKassabwhat media player are you guys using that loads within firefox also?06:21
Fujitsubobertdos, just don't remove linux-image.2.6.15-23 :)06:21
FujitsuRamiKassab, try mplayer-plugin06:21
JohnsonEtroy: i just need the path to my drive_c folder06:21
chavoAdmiralCrunch, yes06:21
NoWhereToTurnHow many people here are using dapper with multiple distros on the same machine?06:21
varsendaggrmozplugger06:21
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yoshiznit123johnsone: ~/.wine/drive_c06:21
cesperancRamiKassab: vlc-plugin06:21
RamiKassabok06:21
FujitsuJohnsonE, ~/.wine/drive_c06:22
craftehI have a Thinkpad T40. I had a USB keyboard for a while... and ever since using the USB keyboard on the laptop, the keys on my regular keyboard are not mapped correctly in X. How can I fix this? My xorg.conf doesn't look any different!06:22
JohnsonEthanks06:22
AdmiralCrunchchavo, could you tell me what must be done?06:22
nickrudwinbond, np, I field that type of question here06:22
troy_sJohnsonE: But you might want to consider mounting it instead of utilizing Wine and such... what are you running under Wine?06:22
rivercan anyone tell me if I need a symlink to make Java run in ubuntu 606:22
RamiKassabFujitsu: thanks06:22
Fujitsucrafteh, have you configured the correct keyboard map in Sytstem->Preferences->Keyboard?06:22
yoshiznit123crafteh: you'll need xmodmap06:22
Fujitsuubotu, tell river about java.06:22
nickrudwinbond, we do what we can do06:22
yoshiznit123or that :-)06:22
Fujitsuriver, ubotu will have sent you instructions about Java in Ubuntu 6.06.06:22
RamiKassabcesperanc: is that better than mplayer? I have VLC for windows and I know it supports a wide array of formats06:22
chavoAdmiralCrunch, you have to enable the composite extension in xorg.conf and then run a compositing manager06:22
troy_sRamiKassab: VLC is very powerful.  mplayer is great too... different tools really.06:23
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mcpowleyhmm, what's the best firewall for linux?06:23
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thomasMmplayer with good skins is nice.06:23
craftehFujitsu, yeah its the US one06:23
winbondnickrud: which bittorent client do u use?06:23
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thomasMmcpowley linux is a firewall. default installations have no open ports.06:23
troy_sRamiKassab: If you need to set up a media jukebox, VLC is the way to go.  If you want a simple plays everything but menus thing -- mplayer is great.  mplayer is also useful for converting media.06:23
cesperancHi. I'm trying to build firefox 2 with ubuntu to test a localization, but I'm getting an error when compiling the file "libgfx_gtk.a". There are some undefined references to xft... Someone knows how can I solve this?06:23
troy_smcpowley: It comes with iptables... the only firewall.06:23
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nickrudwinbond, I drag a torrent I want to the desktop, and double click it. I have no idea what apps does the download06:24
craftehFujitsu, is there anyway I can force it to reconfigure/detect the keyboard? It worked before I used the USB one and the xorg.conf looks exactly the same.06:24
troy_sthomasM: No open ports does not quite equate to a firewall.  You need a packetfilter, and that is what iptables handles.06:24
RamiKassabtroy_s: if I install both will it cause conflict within firefox? of course, those are just the plugins so to get the standalones I need to download those separately06:24
xicemcpowley, also install firestarter for a gui for iptables06:24
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MystaMaxhey, if I just restarted my computer and haven't logged in, can i vnc to the machine and login???06:24
Fujitsucrafteh, try in System->Preferences->Keyboard. Check the layout.06:24
mcpowleyoh, I see06:24
troy_sRamiKassab: No.  Mplayer has a moz plugin etc.06:24
thomasMmcpowley you can use nessus though to see if you have open ports you don't know about though.06:24
xiceMystaMax, try it, probably06:24
SAM_themanhow i move a folder from my home directory to apt ??06:24
troy_smcpowley: If you want a gui to access iptables, try firestarter.06:24
mcpowleyalso, is there any need for antivirus on linux?06:24
FujitsuthomasM, nmap is useful for such things./06:24
mcpowleyill check firestarter out then06:24
FujitsuSAM_theman, what do you mean?06:24
RamiKassabtroy_s: could I install both vlc-plugin and mplayer-plugin to see which I like?06:24
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nickrudSAM_theman, that is a really wierd question.06:25
RamiKassabtroy_s: or just try one at a time06:25
craftehFujitsu, the layout looks good to me ... "Generic 104-key PC" with "U.S. English" layout06:25
SAM_themanlol06:25
thomasMthomasM, but nessus has a sweet gui, dunno if you've heard of such things.06:25
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thomasMand i just said my own name...06:25
MystaMaxxice, thanks. anyone else have a more solid answer???06:25
thomasM:l06:25
Fujitsucrafteh, odd.06:25
troy_smcpowley: All computers are subject to exploitations.  Whether or not you require a virus checker is up to you.  A virus checker is far down the food chain of computer security however.06:25
winbondnickrud: do u know how to install a app thats .rpm and its dependencies?06:25
Fujitsucrafteh, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a terminal.06:25
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troy_swinbond: alien the rpm06:25
Fujitsuwinbond, use alien./06:25
Fujitsuubotu, tell winbond about alien06:25
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drumline_troy_s: what's farther up the food chain?06:25
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craftehFujitsu, ok06:26
nickrudwinbond, no, I went to debian for dependency resolution. What app?06:26
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FujitsuOh.06:26
FujitsuDependencies as well.06:26
mcpowleytroy: I see, are there any recommendation you would have for a linux newbie to install for security essentials?06:26
FujitsuWon't happen...06:26
troy_sdrumline_: Education.  Knowledge.  By the time you have a virus on your box, and you are requiring a checker to protect you, you are in some serious trouble.06:26
Fujitsumcpowley, nothing, if you don't install any services. Antivirus is right down the bottom of the list.06:26
drumline_troy_s: got it..  agreed.  :)06:26
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troy_smcpowley: Learn how the system works.  As a general rule of thumb:  Any running process is subject to exploitation.06:27
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drumline_troy_s: by the time you got the virus, you've already failed some serious rudimentary tests...06:27
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rolerI got a new startup/shutdown screen from www.gnome-look.org and i'm not sure where to install it... I have a .cfg file and a grpahic06:27
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CaptainMorganin Kubuntu - what's the hotkeys for swtiching between terminals/shells in Konsole ?06:27
nickrudwinbond, Fujitsu basically said it all about rpms & dependencies in ubuntu06:27
RamiKassabok I'm gonna play around with some things, thanks for the help guys06:27
troy_smcpowley:  If that process opens external ports, especially on a LAN or the net, then you have a theoretical hole to remote attack.06:27
RamiKassabI'll be back later, once I update xchat :)06:27
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drumline_Hitachi makes a cheapy SATA II NCQ drive...   Yee Haw!06:27
FujitsuRPM is a silly format, especially if you want to use it with a Debian-derivation.06:27
FujitsuSee you, RamiKassab.06:27
winbondnickrud: i wanted to install the original bittrrent from bittorrent.com06:27
bootlickWhat should I install on drapper to make my browsing experiance similar to windows, there is so much that does not work. Is there an install package that would bring things up to snuff?06:27
troy_sdrumline_: Exactly.06:28
thomasMRPM is weak sauce.06:28
RamiKassabFujitsu: later man, again, I appreciate it06:28
Fujitsuwinbond, why?06:28
Fujitsuwinbond, there is a package for it.06:28
troy_sbootlick: Learn what you need.  Add only what you need.06:28
FujitsuRamiKassab, no problem.06:28
gnat_xi have an old laptop thats running xubuntu (its the bait machine to keep roommates from asking to use mine for email), and it only has a 1.5G hard drive which is full. /usr/share is taking about a third of the drive, and about another third is in /var/. anything i can safely rm for starters?06:28
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RamiKassabtroy_s: thanks!06:28
thomasMbootlick... similar to windows.. firefox runs on windows you know.06:28
troy_sbootlick:  Educate yourself in the process.06:28
troy_sRamiKassab: Glad I could help.06:28
gnat_xand what does ubuntu genereally put in usr/share?06:28
drumline_mcpowley: don't ever use a Peer to Peer network.  :)06:28
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nickrudwinbond, I have no real interest in figuring out how bittorent works in ubuntu, cus it just does06:28
troy_sgnat_x: It used to be a dir for files that one could share across platforms.06:28
winbondFujitsu: yes , but its old version,  ...i want to install it because i dont really like ktorrent and want to try different apps06:28
bootlickthomasM yes, and in firefox for windows, i can watch a swf clip with sound, linux, no deal06:29
Fujitsugnat_x, /var/cache/apt/archives is safe to delete.06:29
bootlickDoes anyone have sound for this?06:29
Fujitsuwinbond, what is the current official version?06:29
troy_sbootlick: Now you are into specifics.06:29
CalcipherAlrighty... I got a question (warning!! newbie alert).  I have been trying to install/boot dapper on my old presario 1200 laptop, it goes through the process normally untill it reaches "Configuring X..." when it will go to a black screen (with a blinking cursor) access the CD for a couple of minutes and then stop. (sorry for the lengthy discourse..)06:29
JohnsonEall that work and FL Studio won't even work with wine.06:29
bootlickhttp://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swf    - running linux06:29
drumline_bootlick: I have sound for SWF files...06:29
mcpowleytroy_s: Are there any websites that have some explanation of the basics of linux...or a book I could purchase?06:29
troy_sbootlick:  SWF is Flash, so you will need to add flash from the repos if you are on 32 bit.06:29
winbondFujitsu: 4.4.006:29
mcpowleydrumline_:That includes bittorent and frostwire?06:29
Dr_Willisgoogle has ooooodles of linux tutorial links.06:29
bootlickI have flash running, I can see the animation, but no sound06:30
troy_smcpowley: I _strongly_ encourage you to purchase "How Linux Works" from no starch press.06:30
kmythhello, i've 100gb hd but when it's mounted only 50gb is seen, anyone knows why? thanks06:30
SAM_themanhttp://pastebin.com/70375206:30
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nickrudtldp.org, again: tldp.org06:30
SAM_themanwhat the hell that means???06:30
drumline_mcpowley: any peer to peer...   that does include bittorent... I dunno what frostwire is...06:30
troy_sbootlick:  Ok, the sound is a specific to one of the flash installs.  Did you install "Flash nonfree from the repos?06:30
bootlickno, i dont belive so,06:30
bootlicki will do that06:30
drumline_mcpowley: the issue is that it's a means for unchecked communication to travel back to your box through your firewall...06:30
Fujitsubootlick, a number of people are having this problem.06:30
FujitsuJohnsonE, a lot of things don't.06:30
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bootlickdid you get sound from that track ?06:30
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FujitsuSAM_theman, are you in a terminal window in the GUI?06:31
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SAM_themanterminal i n the gui06:31
SAM_themanterminal i n the gui06:31
SAM_themanclear06:31
troy_smcpowley:  I restate:  Any process running on a computer is subject to exploitation of one sort or another.  That answer your question? ;)06:31
FujitsuSAM_theman, can you please restart the terminal and try again?06:31
drumline_joe mama06:31
SAM_themanI did06:31
riverFujitsu: thanks for the link ... java is now working06:31
SAM_themanlike 40 times06:31
FujitsuNo problem, river.06:31
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nickrudSAM_theman, as the original installer (password entered during the install) : sudo gedit will work. If not, you have reall, serious issues06:31
FujitsuSAM_theman, have you made any changes to your X configuration?06:31
vineetI just installed 6.06 and my MA111 is failing with "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready06:31
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SAM_themanyup06:32
Fujitsunickrud, not really...06:32
drumline_mcpowley: you can buy books on linux basics, yes.06:32
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SAM_themanthen i reconfigured it06:32
kmythhello, i've 100gb hd but when it's mounted only 50gb is seen, anyone knows why? thanks06:32
SAM_themanwith dkpgrec....06:32
Induane_Hey all I've a dapper system (many actually but only two I use for playing videos)   and playing videos on them both is off... audio and video don't sync regardless of the video or video player.06:32
FujitsuSAM_theman, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:32
Fujitsu*?06:32
SAM_themani did06:32
Dr_Williskmyth,  use fdisk and look at how its partioned.06:32
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FujitsuInduane_, that's somewhat common.06:32
drumline_kmyth: you'll also want to check the forums and maybe post in the forums for this problem.06:32
Induane_One system is a laptop with an ati card the other is a desktop with an nvidia card.06:32
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FujitsuSAM_theman, hmm.06:32
troy_smcpowley:  If you don't know exactly what is going on with a piece of software, keep hidden behind your firewall.  There are good *nix commands to see what a certain process is doing on your box.  netstat is one for example.  Once you know what a program is doing, then you are well equipped to use it.06:32
SAM_themanlet me try again06:33
FujitsuSAM_theman, can you please try to reconfigure again, and accept the defaults?06:33
kmythfdisk/cfdisk shows one XFS partition with 100gb06:33
Induane_Fujitsu  are there fixes for it?06:33
vineetit worked fine on sarge with linux-wlan-ng06:33
NoWhereToTurnSo daper alternate ISO is buggy as is the normal install06:33
SAM_themanyeah stop gdm to?06:33
Induane_the problem didn't exist in hoary.06:33
gnat_xthe /var/cache/apt/archives dir is just the actual .deb files you pull during upgrade right? (like on debian)06:33
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kholerabbiI have tried installing java through add/remove - the java web start package.. It didn't install in firefox -why??/06:33
FujitsuInduane_, it depends, I'm not really sure.06:33
troy_sNoWhereToTurn: In what respect for you?06:33
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SAM_themanbrb then06:33
FujitsuSAM_theman, yeah.06:33
SAM_themanok06:33
drumline_anyone know of a keyboard that requires VERY LITTLE force to trigger a key press?06:33
polpakNoWhereToTurn: I had problems with the normal install ISO, but the alternate worked fine06:33
Fujitsukholerabbi, that's the wrong package.06:33
Fujitsukholerabbi, please install flashplugin-nonfree.06:33
Induane_Fujitsu is it an xv problem or some sort of overlay issue?"  I've tried forcing xv but no effect.06:33
Fujitsudrumline_, that's not really on topic.06:33
troy_sdrumline_: I have heard those cloth styles have some light press alternatives.06:34
vineetdrumline_: the kinesis ergonomic keyboards are good06:34
nickrudFujitsu, so this is not just a sudo issue then06:34
roostishawanyone, two quick questions: how do i run a script at shutdown, and what command can be used in a bash script to copy a file to a givin location whenever its modified?06:34
Fujitsunickrud, no.06:34
Geoffrey2mcpowley, I would, however, install anti-virus anyway....while I can understand what the others are saying on here, simply assuming one can get smart enough not to need it is like saying I don't need a seat belt because I drive smart and don't get in accidents...sooner or later, things happen06:34
cesperancHas anyone compiled firefox 2 from cvs sources with ubuntu?06:34
Fujitsunickrud, looks like X is just being stupid.06:34
NoWhereToTurn<troy_s> NoWhereToTurn: In what respect for you? <-- in that I can not get past the friggin partitioner06:34
Dr_Willisdrumline_,  theres some very high quality keyboards out. (like that 'daskeyboard' or its original form with letters on the keys) that may be what you want06:34
Fujitsucesperanc, I'm sure somebody has.06:34
NoWhereToTurnWhy am I am getting "Not yet implemented" This ext2 file system has a rather strange layout! Parted can't resize this (yet).???06:34
nickrudFujitsu, glad you were here :)06:34
bootlicklinux is fine, and will be much better as time goes on06:34
polpakNoWhereToTurn: I have the same issue with the standard installer06:34
NoWhereToTurnthats the lastest problem06:34
troy_sGeoffrey2:  Ultimately, the nature of a virus and the stopping power of a checker though means you are practicing far worse security related issues on your machine.06:34
FujitsuNoWhereToTurn, it's because it's an unclean ext3 volume.06:34
polpakNoWhereToTurn: the partitioner on the alternate CD worked fine though06:34
troy_sNoWhereToTurn: What exactly happens if you can recall?06:35
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FujitsuNoWhereToTurn, you probably need to run fsck on it.06:35
thomasMnowheretoturn, gparted can not resize any partition that is currently mounted.06:35
cesperancFujitsu: Well I'm getting some errors with xft, that I can't resolve06:35
Induane_NoWhereToTurn I think that means your partitions aren't in chronological order - I.E. hda 1 2 and 3 aren't ordered 1 2  and 3 on the disk06:35
Fujitsunickrud, hehe. Thanks :)06:35
FujitsuInduane_, not at all.06:35
troy_sNoWhereToTurn: Ignore me... you have tons of helpers already :)06:35
roostishawhow do i run a script at shutdown?06:35
FujitsuInduane_, that's irrelevant.06:35
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kholerabbiFujitsu - flash? It intalls java too06:35
NoWhereToTurnInduane_ ok that may be06:35
kholerabbi??06:35
Fujitsukholerabbi, Oops.06:35
Dr_Willisroostishaw,  you mean log out..or when the system shuts down?06:35
Induane_Pretty sure its an issue06:35
gnat_xis it bad practice to just ln the apt archives to /dev/null, to keep the space free? (note this computer is used almost solely for web browsing)06:35
Fujitsukholerabbi, my mistake >_<06:35
Induane_I had a bug report about it.  and I know cfdisk can't handle that at all06:35
drumline_Fujitsu: oh I'm sorry... I thought my dark lord of the sith could protect a thermal exhaust port that's only 2 meters wide!!06:35
gnat_xor is that too bad practicie.06:35
vargI just upgraded from Breezy to Dapper, and now my existing user is logged out automatically as soon as the desktop loads. Users created after the upgrade can log in fine. No luck on the forums; any ideas?06:36
Fujitsuubotu, tell kholerabbi about java.06:36
Dr_Willisgnat_x,  you mean the .debs that apt-get caches?06:36
roostishawDr_Willis, when it shuts down...06:36
FujitsuParden, drumline_?06:36
SnoopsI've been reading that using alien to make debs from rpms could be damagerous as it could create problems.. what sort of problems?06:36
troy_svarg:  Have you checked malone?06:36
drumline_Fujitsu: are the topics really run strict here?06:36
gnat_xDr_Willis: yea /var/cache/apt/archives06:36
Fujitsuvarg, logged out? Does X die, or what?06:36
Fujitsudrumline_, yes.06:36
thomasMsnoops, installs things in the wrong places.06:36
Geoffrey2troy_s, um, not sure I understand you...06:36
Dr_WillisSnoops,  oddities when updating packages. and  dependencie issues.06:36
Fujitsudrumline_, this gets excruciatingly busy at times.06:36
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drumline_Fujitsu: gotcha...  wilco06:37
Snoopshmm fingers crossed this doesn't do anything dodgy then06:37
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vargtroy_s: not yet, hadn't heard of it.06:37
FujitsuHi again, JohnsonE.06:37
thomasMsnoops, things that install in redhat do not neccessarily install in the same place in ubuntu06:37
vargFujitsu: it returns to the log-in screen06:37
Fujitsuvarg, odd.06:37
troy_sGeoffrey2: I mean that by using a virus checker as a net, you have probably already violated many security principles to let it get to the point of being caught.06:37
JohnsonEany word of drivers for logtiech keyboards/mice? i want to use the extra features on them in linux =\06:37
Dr_Willisvarg,  create a new clean user - and see if it works for them. If so. your existing gnome configs for the older user  may be the problem06:37
kholerabbiFujistu: thanks06:37
KanRiNiNI'm having trouble finding out how to have ubuntu turn my monitor off after a certain period of idleness06:37
troy_subotu, tell varg about bug06:37
FujitsuJohnsonE, features like what?06:37
vargDr_Willis: Done, and yes. But what?06:37
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Snoopsit sucks not being able to find a deb amd 64 version of xvidcap then :(06:37
thomasMsnoops for some things its okay to do, but nothing that gets upgraded.06:37
NoWhereToTurnNow it is complaining about yet another ext2 partition which it has nothing to do with ubuntu06:37
bootlickwindows vista beta, gives me the same amount of trouble as linux, things not working, searching for drivers,06:37
vargtroy_s: thanks. :)06:37
JohnsonEfujitsu: media buttons, double click button, etc.06:37
troy_sJohnsonE: What extra features?06:37
bootlickwhy cant we just stick to one os06:38
Fujitsubootlick, nice.06:38
Dr_Willisvarg,  so it works for the new user but not the old? if so.. move/delete/rename the .gnome* config dirs. so they get remade fresh and from the defaults.06:38
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troy_sbootlick:  Well spoken06:38
thomasMbootlick, why not just give all of your money to one company??06:38
thomasMbootlock, because they get lazy.06:38
Fujitsuvarg, try what Dr_Willis said.06:38
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troy_sbootlick:  The difference in this community is that everyone encourages people to learn and educate, not point and click to further stupidity.06:38
thomasMbootlock, competition is an advantage.06:38
vargDr_Willis, Fujitsu: in progress. :)06:38
xicebootlick, sounding like a prime apple candidate06:38
xicehere have $500006:39
FujitsuYep, troy_s.06:39
bootlickhow about giving my money to a linux help forum06:39
troy_sFujitsu: amen.06:39
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thomasMbootlick, if only one company produced cars, would there be any inovation, or any real quality control?06:39
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bootlicktechs solving problems06:39
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troy_sthomasM:  A computer is NOT a car, nor even close.06:39
Blattlaus<bootlick> windows vista beta, gives me the same amount of trouble as linux, things not working, searching for drivers, - but on vista you have the problem that you cannot access the system in such a deep level as under linux06:39
SAM_themansame sh**06:39
NoWhereToTurnI have installed slackware,mandriva,suse,Fedora on this box and have never had as much problme as I have had with ubuntu06:39
Dr_WillisthomasM,  theres not a lot of inovation in cars :P lol.06:39
thomasMtroy_s the concept is universal.06:39
bootlickif one company produced cars with no problems and warrenty work for free, sure06:39
elephanthunterSo... does anybody know a command to reconfigure the sound on the computer?06:39
SAM_themanI think i know what to do06:39
troy_sthomasM: Many fundamental freedoms are now dictated by computer use.  Companies should not control this.  It crept in while we were sleeping.06:39
FujitsuNoWhereToTurn, problems like what?06:39
Dr_WillisI have MUCH more problems in windows then i do in linux.06:39
crimsun_elephanthunter: there isn't one. What's the issue?06:39
Blattlauswhich means yome problems cant be solved by you06:39
FujitsuSAM_theman, please watch the language.06:40
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SephirothWindows is full of problems.06:40
SAM_themansrry06:40
troy_sthomasM: If you consider literature, art, science, learning, education, etc universal... sure.06:40
elblancounh!06:40
Induane_If I could get my video and audio to sync up I'd be gloriously happy with ubuntu06:40
chavovista beta 2 recognized all of my hardware06:40
thomasMtroy_s, if there were only one flavour of unix, we would have all of the same problems, free software or not.06:40
troy_sthomasM: A car does that for you?06:40
PeloI have a small question, I just installed /ran automatix for the first time, and it is now asking me if I want to replace  sources.list ?  do i or not ?06:40
bootlickBlattlaus, i dont want to solve problems, or go deep into linux06:40
Dr_Williswith linux - the problems are at least  somthing you can research/check the logs/ and in theory fix.. in windows. you just try  'things' and hopes it fixes the problem06:40
Sephiroth^06:40
troy_sthomasM: We evolve though.  Open source evolves.  Closed source does not.06:40
Sephirothexactly06:40
FujitsuPelo, you want to click OK to that button.06:40
Dr_WillisPelo,  dont use automatix at all. is  the best advice06:40
bootlicki want a computer that works, and with the money windows has, they can keep it working06:40
troy_sPelo:  automatix can bunk you.06:40
Induane_vista beta2 didn't even recogonize my videocard - which is older.  Or sound... or usb device... so I couldn't use my keyboard or mouse... the whole thing was a mess06:40
thomasMtroy_s, inovation only evolves with competition.06:40
Flashq009I just finished downloading the iso image of ubuntu.  I burned it to cd. But it does not run.  What do I need to do?06:40
FujitsuDr_Willis, that advice has now been revoked, although I don't agree with the revokement.06:40
Dr_WillisMs dosent care to keep things working.06:41
Fujitsutroy_s, what I said to Dr_Willis.06:41
Snoopsbootlick so what's the problem? :)06:41
troy_sthomasM:  Research history.06:41
SephirothLinux is a lot better than windows if you ask me.06:41
Induane_ditto06:41
FujitsuSephiroth, you don't say...06:41
troy_sthomasM:  You bought the entire american myth.  Try Greek history.06:41
vineetFlashq009: make sure you burned the image rather than putting the image as a file on the disc06:41
crimsun_guys, open- vs. closed-source belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic.06:41
bootlickLinux is a lot better than windows06:41
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Dr_WillisFujitsu,  now you got him totally confused! :P06:41
thomasMtroy_s, believe what you want, competition is healthy in every way for consumers.06:41
bootlickImagine the world without windows06:41
bootlickI was much happier with dos06:41
Fujitsubootlick, no, that's too good.06:41
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troy_sFujitsu: Laf.  Don't say...06:41
Dr_Willisbootlick,  go back to dos then.06:41
Sephirothwhat a good world that would be06:41
Sephirothno windows06:41
NoWhereToTurnFujitsu like the partitioner complaining about other partitions from the other distros which has nothing to do with installing the os06:41
Induane_many people were happier with dos...06:41
vargDr_Willis, Fujitsu: I moved all .gnome-looking folders; of those, .gnome2 and .gnome2_private were recreated upon login. The problem persisted, however.06:41
troy_sSephiroth: Don't stop there... Apple is the other color of bad.06:42
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FujitsuIs it just me, or is ubotu being /really/ laggy.06:42
Pelook thanks for the info06:42
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Sephirothi hate apple06:42
troy_sFujitsu: Laggy.06:42
Fujitsuvarg, best to create an entirely new account, then06:42
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Dr_Willisvarg,  theres also the .gconf* directories06:42
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crimsun_offtopic discussion needs to migrate to #ubuntu-offtopic.06:42
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FujitsuNoWhereToTurn, you probably told it to resize, or something.06:42
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Fujitsucrimsun_, why did you set that flag!?06:42
drumline_Bill Gates created the microcomputer market...   He just did it via selling his soul...06:42
bootlick?06:43
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Flashq009vineet: how do I do what you suggested?06:43
bootlickokay , no more06:43
Dr_Willisvarg,  i see about 5 .gnome* dirs and about 3 .gconf* dirs06:43
FujitsuThankyou, bootlick.06:43
NoWhereToTurnnope told it to create one partition at the end of the drive and to use that for everything ie /06:43
bootlicki need help with ubuntu just liek everyone lese06:43
vineetFlashq009: it depends on the program you used to burn the disc06:43
thomasMdrumline_ bill gates purchased dos from some poor fool who didn't know what it was worth.06:43
troy_sFujitsu: It was off topic.  He was correct.06:43
vineetFlashq009: can you read the disc at all? can you see what files it has on it?06:43
Flashq009yes06:43
steveO_Is it easy to go from Ubuntu to KUbuntu.. can I upgrade from the command line?06:43
steev-dellhttp://pastebin.ca/64703 can someone assist with this? perl keeps complaining that the default locale isn't being set, and i've run dpkg-reconfigure locales a few times - always the same output - as seen in the url at the beginning of this06:43
steveO_or is that a big fat hassle?06:43
Fujitsutroy_s, yes, but the setting of the channel to moderated was unnecessary.06:43
steveO_or easy to install kde packages?06:43
SephirothYeah, just install KDE.06:43
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Snoopsso what do you need help with bootlick?06:43
crimsun_elephanthunter: would you describe your sound issues?06:43
Fujitsusteve0_, just install kubuntu-desktop.06:44
troy_ssteveO_: you can run them both simul.06:44
vineetFlashq009: does it have just one .iso file, or lots of files on it?06:44
Dr_WillissteveO_,  trivially easy..06:44
bootlickmany things06:44
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steveO_ok, cool.06:44
Fujitsusteve0_, that'll give you both Ubuntu and Kubuntu on the one system.06:44
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Flashq009one iso file06:44
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steveO_awesome, i thought so. :)06:44
bootlickfirst off, no sound with swf files06:44
NoWhereToTurnNow it is complaining "file system has incompatible feture enabled"06:44
steveO_thank you :>06:44
bootlickwell one in particual06:44
FujitsuNoWhereToTurn, strange.06:44
SAM_themanbrb06:44
bootlickthat gives sound find in windows06:44
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JohnsonEok an azureus error popped up and it won't go away06:44
FujitsuNoWhereToTurn, what is installed on the partition it's complaining about?06:44
bootlicki will figure it out eventually06:44
troy_sbootlick: I have also heard that sometimes the flash player in linux has some permissions on the sound output that need adjusting.06:44
crimsun_bootlick: are you wrapper $browser with aoss?06:44
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FujitsuJohnsonE, I've heard people complaining about that...06:44
crimsun_bootlick: sorry, s/wrapper/wrapping/06:44
Flashq009do I get it to extract the iso onto cd?06:44
vineetFlashq009: so that's the problem; that .iso file is actually an entire disc image.  You need to use your burning program's "burn disc image" feature06:44
bootlickfirefox06:44
FujitsuFlashq009, no.06:45
Fujitsuubotu, tell Flashq009 about iso06:45
crimsun_bootlick: ok, do you have 'alsa-oss' from universe installed?06:45
Dr_WillisJohnsonE,  ive seen that when not using the actual 'sun' java.. but i think it may of hung around even after i used the suns java. :(06:45
FujitsuFlashq009, see the message from Ubotu.06:45
JohnsonEand i tried to open a torrent with normal bittorrent and that didn't work either :|06:45
JohnsonEhow can i install sun's java?06:45
nomincan I just upgrade ubuntu with the cd from within an ubuntu session?  I think I'm starting to do that right now.06:45
crimsun_JohnsonE: use synaptic to install sun-java5-jre06:45
bootlickCrimsum going to try that right now06:45
troy_sJohnsonE: Some torrents use UDP ports...06:45
Dr_WillisJohnsonE,  theres other torrent clients out.. ive actually gotten used to ktorrent lately06:45
Fujitsunomin, you need the alternate CD.06:45
crimsun_bootlick: after you install it, use ``aoss firefox'' from a Terminal06:45
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troy_sJohnsonE: If you want, try Bittornado for UDP etc.06:46
NoWhereToTurn]  <Fujitsu> NoWhereToTurn, what is installed on the partition it's complaining about? <every partiton it has complained about belonged to another distro installed on this computer06:46
vargDr_Willis: Worked. Thanks a bunch! :)06:46
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troy_sJohnsonE: It is dead easy and not much to it...06:46
NoWhereToTurnI have no idea what the heck this incompatible feature error is06:46
xonicdoes anyone know how to install xine?06:46
Snoopsbootlick https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b06:46
FujitsuNoWhereToTurn, neither do I. What other distros are there?06:46
thomasMcrimsun_ there is a problem with the compiz package, it is not installing the gconf keys man. if you know the proper people to inform about this, please let them know.06:46
Snoopsthat goes into detail on it06:46
Fujitsuxonic, install the xine package.06:46
vargexit06:46
KachingoI'm having trouble getting gtk-gnutella to work. It looks ok, but when I search, nothing comes up. It says that it's firewalled, but it isn't to my knowlege. I set up port forwarding on my router also, and it still doesn't work. Any ideas?06:46
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xonichow and where06:46
troy_sJohnsonE: Also note that for some torrents to get to you, if they are behind a firewall, you will need to permit them to attach to you via yours.  Security risk, but some will not work without.06:46
xoniccan't find it06:46
thomasMcrimsun_ me and 3 other people have had problems tonight with compiz, always the same error: no gconf keys.06:47
crimsun_xonic: libxine1-main should already be installed. Do you need mp3 and additional support?06:47
nominFujitsu: when I put the dapper cd in, it opened up synaptic automatically and added the cd to the repository.  Now I've selected 'upgrade' and I'm hoping that it's only downloading files that are not on the cd.06:47
vineetany recommendations on where else to ask for my ma111/linux-wlan-ng problem?06:47
NoWhereToTurnslackware,madriva (which I installed this weekend with no proble) Fedorea, slackeware,suse06:47
Fujitsunomin, that's right.06:47
crimsun_xonic: if so, enable universe and multiverse, and install libxine-extracodecs.06:47
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Induane_Kachingo are you sure your ports are forwarded to the right ports?  also if you use dhcp you ip address may change from time to time thus nulifying your port forewarding06:47
xoniccrimsun_: those are installed06:47
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vineetit worked out-of-the-box on sarge, so I'm surprised it didn't in ubuntu06:48
SephirothInteresting how some programs advertise themselves when they leave.06:48
NoWhereToTurnI am burning the ISO for 5.10 and see if that complains as much as daper06:48
bootlickcrimsun_ Thanks, but still no sound06:48
xonicbut before my last reinstall i ahd the w32codecs and xine installed i forgot where i got em06:48
crimsun_xonic: then you have xine-lib installed.06:48
bootlickno problem, bed time for me06:48
crimsun_xonic: are you looking for a player?06:48
vineettoo bad I already clobbered my sarge install =(06:48
crimsun_bootlick: are all other sound apps closed?06:48
xonici love xine tho it did the job06:48
bootlickhmm06:48
nominFujitsu: actually, now it looks like it's downloading more than I might need.  It says I've got about 5 hours and 40 minutes of download time remaining.  Thats about 700 MB with my internet speed.06:48
NoWhereToTurnI wished the heck I left hoary on this box06:48
bootlickyes yes06:48
crimsun_bootlick: in particular any firefox windows06:48
bootlickall other sound apps are closed06:48
xonici want xine, lol06:48
KachingoInduane_: I set a static IP address, and I'm fairly sure the port forwarding is correct.06:48
bootlickall firefox windows are closed06:48
crimsun_xonic: the library or the player?06:48
xonicplayer06:49
crimsun_xonic: do you want xine-ui, gxine, ...?06:49
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thomasMinstall xine-ui06:49
xonici have the w32 codes sitting in my desktop how i install them they are in a .bz2 files06:49
mcpowleyTroy_s: I just ordered the book on Amazon.06:49
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crimsun_thomasM: in gnome?06:49
xonicnone of those, i had xine hte player...=\06:49
crimsun_thomasM: (RE: compiz)06:49
Induane_Kachingo try double-checking in gtk-gnutella to make sure that you forwarded the correct ports... I don't know what else to say..works here06:49
thomasMcrimsun_  yes.06:49
xonicxine-i sucks06:49
CurtisBI've got what I hope is a minor problem (on Badger, btw) I burned a data disk with GnomeBaker, but it's not mounting...  Do I need something specific in my fstab?06:49
thomasMxonic get skins for it.06:50
xoniceww06:50
Sephirothis everyone leaving now?06:50
crimsun_thomasM: following the instructions here? [] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-February/000079.html] 06:50
NoWhereToTurnAre any other people using daper with other Linux distros on the same machine?06:50
xonici just uninstalled it becasue it was showing some screwed up gui06:50
Induane_NoWhereToTurn I am06:50
xonicthats why i want xine06:50
mjbjrI need to _buy_ a new box (for a friend) to run ubuntu, and I want it to just plain work...  does anyone have any system _recommendation_?06:50
Induane_NoWhereToTurn I use Arch linux OpenSuSE 10 and Ubuntu Dapper06:50
crimsun_mjbjr: desktop or laptop?06:51
mjbjrdesktop06:51
spikebi recommend the system76 systems :)06:51
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Snoopsall depends on price and such mjbjr06:51
crimsun_mjbjr: sorry, pretty useless I am then.06:51
NoWhereToTurnI guess I must be special then :(06:51
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Induane_mjbjr simply buy a decent mobo and processor - grab a sblive soundcard (EMU10K) and an nvidia videocard06:51
thomasMcrimsun_ you don't need gconf keys for that?06:51
crimsun_thomasM: it works with those instructions.06:51
KachingoInduane_: In your gtk-gnutella, what is your ip address? Mine says 0.0.0.0, which I thought means any, but I don't know06:51
mjbjrspikeb: I looked at them... do you recommend them from personal experience?06:51
Induane_Kachingo let me go check06:51
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crimsun_thomasM: have you done anything funky like forcibly remove gconf?06:52
FreqWhen someone has a minute, could they help me with a display issue?06:52
thomasMcrimsun_ thankyou. the problem is that these guides on the ubuntu forums are for dapper, but are outdated.06:52
spikebmjbjr: yes - not from buying directly from them, but i can personally testify to the excellence of the staff in answering questions06:52
thomasMcrimsun_ no, gconf is installed perfectly fine.06:52
crimsun_thomasM: or use compiz compiled from non-Ubuntu repos?06:52
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thomasMcrimsun_ nope.06:52
spikebmjbjr: i have quizzed them a number of times, am HIGHLY likely to buy from them as soon as i can afford to06:52
mjbjrahh06:52
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thomasMcrimsun_ which is what lead me to believe that it was a problem with the ubuntu package of compiz.06:52
spikebmjbjr: the staff is polite and very responsive, hence my recommendations despite not buying yet.06:52
Induane_Kachingo where does it list your IP?06:52
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crimsun_thomasM: these instructions worked in February through last week06:53
mjbjrspikeb: how's their warranty?06:53
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spikebmjbjr: i'm not sure, but you can ask them directly for details and they will give you the straight answer06:53
mjbjrcool06:53
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thomasMcrimsun_ I will follow these directions, but there should be a place on the forums for all of the latest information, as many of the guides are outdated.06:53
KachingoInduane_: I think it says in network settings in the program06:53
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thomasMcrimsun_ or its just a problem with the package.06:54
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spikebmjbjr: they have forums, and the staff answer quite promptly there.06:54
mcpowleyDoes anyone know how I can start firestarter on every boot by default? I added the line sudo firestarter to my session start up, but it never starts...06:54
RamiKassab_hey guys, can any of you recommend a good application for docking software to the system tray?06:54
RamiKassab_I heard of kdocker, is that good?06:54
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Induane_Kachingo ahh yea it was right in front of my face lol  - mine says Current IP Settings (Address:Port):24:124:47:61:2511806:54
thomasMmcpowley, it needs to be run as a service on bootup.06:54
crimsun_thomasM: I used that last week, so it shouldn't be a problem with the package.06:54
RamiKassab_does ubuntu support that natively or do I need a 3rd part yapp06:54
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mjbjrspikeb: thanks, I'll look into them further.06:55
spikebmjbjr: you're welcome.06:55
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thomasMcrimsun i followed this guide, which asks for changes in gconf settings. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=73975806:55
FreqRami: I have a link to a site that will show you how to convert the Dapper UI to be more like OS X if you want that06:55
SAM_themanyo  i know the problem the nvidia driver is the problem06:55
Induane_engage is a great dock06:55
FreqI think it has stuff about the dock, too06:55
Flashq009thank you for the info.  I am burning the cd disk to iso06:55
thomasMfreq www.gnomelook.org06:55
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SAM_themancause i restarted evering in the /etc/Xll and used the defualt drivers06:55
KachingoInduane_: Dammit, I guess it means it can't see my global IP address. I'll try typing it in, cheers06:56
RamiKassab_Freq: I'm not really looking to conver to OS X UI look and feel06:56
SAM_themanand sudo gedit worked then i install nvidia and i gives me thte error06:56
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Flashq009I mean writing disk to ISO file06:56
RamiKassab_just looking to dock applications to the system tray, apps like Thunderbird and XMMS06:56
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Induane_Kachingo google says it means your ports aren't forewarded lol06:56
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pundaisomeon gimme a bug to fix, im bored06:56
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StarScream_hey guys, i have just installed breezy ppc and i was looking for that new network-manager tool that mark shuttleworth was saying about in his tllts interview06:57
marcioI'm problem to install plugins to wav, help-me?06:57
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CurtisBI've got what I hope is a minor problem (on Badger, btw) I burned a data disk with GnomeBaker, but it's not mounting...  Do I need something specific in my fstab?06:57
StarScream_anyone know where it is?06:57
KachingoInduane_: Dammit, maybe I didn't forward them right.06:57
crimsun_thomasM: that howto on the forum does the same thing in two separate commands06:57
StarScream_or how i get it06:57
RamiKassab_Freq: although, I would like to check it out, can ya send the link over?06:57
spikebStarScream_: check in add/remove...06:57
RamiKassab_so, any recommendations on docker apps?06:57
Freqyeah, I just have to startup Dapper to get the link :P06:57
Freqhand on06:57
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StarScream_spikeb: i've installed it apparently06:57
Freqhang on*06:57
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faroushave a problem after installing kubuntu (i purged it later). everytime i restart mypc the default dns is erased (blank) and i have to put my router address in it. this is just irrtating any one know how can i get rid of that06:57
Induane_Kachingo hehe - try making sure you are using udp ports06:57
StarScream_just don't know whereto find it /run it06:57
RamiKassab_Freq: thanks man06:57
xonichow do oyu run a .run file?06:57
Induane_Kachingo or disable UDP06:58
farousxonic: ./foo06:58
spikebStarScream_: hmm06:58
spikebStarScream_: me either06:58
thomasMcrimsun_ well i have compiz installed off of ubuntu repositories, yet with no gconf keys installed. i have no explaination for this so far.06:58
xonicfarous: huh06:58
mcpowleythomasM: How would I do that exactly?06:58
StarScream_xonic: ./file.run06:58
spikebStarScream_: but it's nice to see another ppc linux user06:58
Induane_Kachingo also I think that it needs to be set to ipv4 only06:58
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xonicsudo?06:58
farousxonic if you are in the file dir type ./foo if your file name is foo06:58
thomasMmcpowley, i don't know i don't personally use firestarted. check out their website.06:58
KachingoInduane_: where do you set it to ipv4?06:58
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SAM_themanbbl06:58
StarScream_spikeb: what you running on ibook / powerbook ?06:59
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RamiKassab_guys, does anyone have a recommendation on a docker app?06:59
asdxwill 6.10 include AIGLX?06:59
troy_subotu, tell mcpowley about firestarter06:59
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Induane_Kaching Network settings06:59
spikebStarScream_: no, on a mac mini :)06:59
KachingoInduane_: Also, I did put a port forwarding for both udp and tcp06:59
StarScream_spikeb: nice06:59
troy_smcpowley: hrm... No link there.  Try the wiki and forums.06:59
Induane_Kachingo ahh ok.  try disabling UDP if it doesn't work... I dunno ;)06:59
Snoopsdoubt it asdx glx and compiz are alpha :)06:59
farouswhich file i edit for my dns server and how i can make whatever i put there permenant06:59
xoniceasier way for a noob like me?06:59
spikebStarScream_: yeah, it is! :)06:59
bobstromcpowley:  what are you trying to do?06:59
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asdxyeah but aiglx is in xorg already06:59
troy_sfarous: /etc/network/interfaces07:00
asdxso it should include07:00
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faroustroy_s: it is set properly there07:00
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FreqWhen I boot Dapper on my system natively (I normally run it in VMware), I get graphical errors not unlike when an NES game goes haywire07:00
thomasMmcpowley i'm fairly confident there is a small section on firestarter on ubuntuguide.07:00
xonichow do oyu run a .run file?07:00
troy_sfarous: What is your issue then???07:00
elephanthuntercrimsun_: Sorry about that, had to go to another room. My sound issue is that I installed skype, tried running Ubuntu's sound recorder to make sure my mic worked, and changed the settings in the sound control. Now I have no sound at all.07:00
FreqI know Dapper can run, because I got the live CD to run07:00
KachingoInduane_: What version are you using?07:00
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faroustroy_s: everytime i reboot it is erased and i do not know why07:00
Snoopsxonic like ten people just told you before..07:00
crimsun_elephanthunter: what did you change?07:00
FreqBut I have to change the video from VGA to 1024x76807:01
xoniclol i have no clue wtf he said07:01
Induane_Kachingo latest from dapper repository07:01
RamiKassab_guys, I'm sure no one really sees my messages because there's so many in here. I'm looking for a docker application that allows me to dock running software to the system tray and remove it from the task bar (applications like thunderbird and xmms that are usually always running). Any recommendations would be GREATLY appreciate, thanks guys!07:01
bobstromcpowley:  hmmm... once i enabled it, it ran for me automatically every time.07:01
RamiKassab_sorry for it being so long, I had asked like 4 times but I don't think anyone say the messages07:01
FreqRami: I said I might have one, just hang on a sec07:01
troy_sRamiKassab_: There are a few...07:01
troy_sRamiKassab_: Try something like alltotray IIRC?07:01
StarScream_spikeb: do you have network manager installed on your system ?07:02
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elephanthunterI went from the ALSA mixer to the OSS mixer and back. Then I unmuted some of my sound inputs. Nothing is muted right now, but it's still not working.07:02
RamiKassab_Freq: thought you said the doc was on coverting to OS X UI, that's not quite what I'm looking for07:02
CurtisBFSTAB: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0  ---OUTPUT: mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, missing codepage or other errormissing codepage or other error07:02
spikebStarScream_: no - i only have a wired connection, so i dont need it07:02
RamiKassab_troy_s: have you heard of kdocker?07:02
troy_sfarous: Your interface file is erased????07:02
Freqhttp://users.utu.fi/ljtaim/ubuntuosx.php07:02
troy_sRamiKassab_: Not a k guy here... any2tray or all2tray or something akin to that... can't remember it exactly.07:02
faroustroy_s: my reslov.conf file is07:02
mcpowleybobstro: Im trying to get it to run at startup07:02
troy_sRamiKassab_: Let me look.07:02
thomasMramikassab_ if all you are looking to do is to clean up your panel, i think its backstep, that will iconify all minimized programs to the desktop07:02
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spikebugh07:03
FreqRami: Right, but OSX has a dock, and it discusses the dock issue07:03
spikebthat is horrible freq07:03
spikebheh07:03
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faroustroy_s: ok let me ask dns is same as gatway right or wrong07:03
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NoWhereToTurnOk trying to install Breezy on this box07:03
KachingoInduane: Hmm, mine isn't the latest version, but it's the latest version from the repository07:03
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Induane_Kachingo hehe same as me then07:03
kiko0123whats the name of the grub cd burning program ?07:03
CurtisBdmesg|tail ---attempt to access beyond end of device, hdc: rw=0, want=68, limit=4, isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16, cdrom: hdc: mrw address space DMA selected07:03
troy_sRamiKassab_: do "apt-cache search tray" and sift.07:03
NoWhereToTurnIt is complaining about partition 6 of hda having uncorrected errors07:03
bobstromcpowley:  once i ran it, it created /etc/rc2.d/S20firestarter, which launches it for me every time. are you sure it's not doing that?07:03
Geoffrey2is there somewhere I can find a list or database of the files available in the ubuntu repositories..something that describes what they are and what they do?07:03
RamiKassab_Freq: yeah the dock OSX has is a seperate dock that expands, I want to minimize to the systray07:03
troy_sfarous: Depends... if your on a router, probably the same.07:03
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RamiKassab_Freq: not have a seperate dock07:04
troy_sfarous: if you connect to the net directly, probably not.07:04
kiko0123hats the name of the grub cd burning program ?07:04
NoWhereToTurnyet when I do a e2fsck /dev/hda6 there are no errors shown07:04
kiko0123*whats07:04
faroustroy_s: it is a router setting07:04
troy_sRamiKassab_: Do that search bro.07:04
RamiKassab_Freq: kinda like gaim and xchat add themselves to the systray07:04
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RamiKassab_troy_s: Doing it now, thanks07:04
troy_sfarous: Then your default gateway and DNS should route through the router generally.07:04
farousnow i set my resolv.conf too. yet as i reboot all my settings are gone07:04
troy_sRamiKassab_: There are gabundles.07:04
kiko0123whats the name of the grub cd burning program ?07:04
troy_sfarous: So what is the error you are getting at the end of all this? I am still unclear, sorry.07:05
RamiKassab_troy_s: yeah I see that now :)07:05
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faroustroy_s: can you give me the command to set the dns in interfaces file07:05
RamiKassab_troy_s: just wondering if you guys knew what the best were07:05
CurtisBkiko0123 - i thought grub was the bootloader... maybe it's past my bedtime, i could be wrong07:05
kiko0123errr sorry Gnome07:05
faroustroy_s: everytime i reboot i have to reconfigure my network for it to work07:05
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CurtisBwell, there is gnomebaker07:05
kiko0123ok thanx07:05
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rixthI keep randomly hearing the login sound. Wtf?07:06
faroustroy_s: i do not know what the cause of the problem though07:06
troy_sfarous: What part of it exactly?  You just need to reconfig it to get it up?07:06
rixth!tell bobstro about away07:06
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troy_subotu, tell RamiKassab_ about better07:06
CurtisB!tell CurtisB about away07:06
troy_sRamiKassab_: ;)07:06
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farousi use the network manager utility of gnome so i have to define my dns servers each time i reboot07:06
troytroyhi i need to revert my desktop manager back to gdm?07:06
faroustroy_s: and my search domain07:07
RamiKassab_troy_s: haha thanks07:07
troy_sfarous:  and that is with DHCP enabled?!?!?!?!07:07
faroustroytroy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm07:07
CurtisBI've got what I hope is a minor problem (on Badger, btw) I burned a data disk with GnomeBaker, but it's not mounting...  Do I need something specific in my fstab?07:07
mcpowleybobstro:Yeah i have that file...hmm, ill take out the sudo firestarter on my startup and just see what happens07:07
faroustroy_s: no i have static ip07:07
RamiKassab_troy_s: sorry I'm short on time here these days and like to cut straight to the chase07:07
rixth!tell CurtisB about msgme07:07
troy_sfarous:  And despite setting the static, mask, and gateway, you need to reconfigure it every time?07:07
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mjbjrspikeb: do you know of any other system manufacturers that build systems for end users that come installed with linux?07:07
bobstromcpowley:  start up, then run 'iptables -nvL' to see if the rules are there. it did it automatically for me.07:07
troy_sRamiKassab_: Yah but you get religious war.07:07
farousyap07:08
troy_sfarous: Can you pastebin your interfaces file?07:08
spikebmjbjr: yeah there are a lot of them actually07:08
troytroyfarous: seems my desktop appears too tiny07:08
spikebmjbjr: i'll give you a couple URLs07:08
faroustroy_s: this prob only occured after installing kubuntu though07:08
mjbjrspikeb: thanks07:08
faroustroy_s: ok no prob07:08
KachingoInduane: Where do you set which IP version the program uses? I can't see that07:08
CurtisBI set GnomeBaker with joilet + rockridge... can't mount the data disk07:08
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troy_sfarous: I always knew KDE was evil ;)07:08
RamiKassab_troy_s: point taken07:08
NoWhereToTurnthank god .. appears that breezy is installing07:08
Induane_Kachingo for me it just is an option right underneith where the ip address shows07:08
faroustroy_s: lol it is not just knew ;)07:09
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farousi am sure it is just bad script somewhere07:09
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Induane_Kachingo vaalnor.mine.nu/Screenshot.png07:09
KachingoInduane: Is yours 0.95.4?07:09
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spikebmjbjr: they're all mostly laptop vendors though hmmm07:09
ilba7r!pastebin07:10
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .07:10
SAM_themanyo you see now "sudo gedit" works this is without my nvidia card07:10
Induane_.96.107:10
NoWhereToTurnis there a problem with this IRC server in that the posts sometimes come down in bursts?07:10
spikebmjbjr: check this out http://www.linux.org/vendor/system/index.html07:10
qatsihello all!!...anyone knows how to edit a file contained inside a .deb file ?07:10
mjbjrspikeb: thanks07:10
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troy_sNoWhereToTurn: Lag.07:10
kaizokuhello07:10
KachingoInduane: WTF! Which repository was it from?07:10
Induane_Kachingo refer to my sources.list  vaalnor.mine.nu/sources.list07:11
kaizokudoes anyone here know what a "[4294669.612000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC07:11
kaizoku" error is?07:11
qatsiayone ?07:11
tgaanyone here using an Orinoco card on Dapper?07:11
Induane_I use the sweedish repos as its faster for me07:11
KachingoInduane: How convenient, thank you07:11
Induane_Kachingo :D07:11
ilba7rtroy_s: ok here is the file. this is my farous from my problametic pc http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1559007:11
Geoffrey2tga, me07:11
tgaGeoffrey2, WEP or unencrypted?07:11
Geoffrey2tga, WEP07:11
CurtisBokay, nobody seems to be able to help me with my gnomenbaker data disk not mounting.. is there an other way to burn a backup data disk?07:11
faroustroy_s: ok i sent you the file and will continue chatting from my other pc07:11
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tgaGeoffrey2, did you have any problems after upgrading to Dapper?07:12
NoWhereToTurnSo breezy is a release that is fine to use and there is no need to upgrade to daper.. correct?07:12
Bruvaheya all07:12
kaizokudoes anyone here know what a "[4294669.612000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC" error is?07:12
Bruva;)07:12
tgaGeoffrey2, I can't get my Orinocos to work for some unknown reason07:12
bobstroCurtisB:  should work. i use k3b often.07:12
KachingoInduane: I wonder if the NZ repository is behind yours, is that possible?07:12
kaizokuplease? any help?07:12
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FlannelNoWhereToTurn: Breezy when it was released is just like Dapper is now.07:12
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Induane_Kachingo vaalnor.mine.nu/preferences <-- you need this in /etc/apt if you want to be able to download and install wine07:12
Geoffrey2tga, actually, I'm just getting started in this world of Linux...so Dapper was a fresh install for me, having never used any earlier versions07:13
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qatsihow do i edit a file thats inside a .deb file ??07:13
Flannelkaizoku: unless you ask a question, we can't ansewr it07:13
Induane_Kachingo its certainly possible... I'm in the US and those repoitories work great for me07:13
qatsianyone please help!07:13
CurtisBbobstro thanks, i guess i'll have to revisit this tomorrow.... c'est la vie. thanks everyone!07:13
tgaGeoffrey2, okay, did wireless just work for you then?07:13
kaizokudoes anyone here know what a "[4294669.612000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC" error is?07:13
kaizokuthat's what I was asking07:13
AngryElfwhere is ubuntu's equivolent of /etc/ld.so.conf ????07:13
kaizokusorry07:13
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Bruvaummm - I was hoping that some of you good folk wld have some tips on getting the wound to work in with Dapper - It worked fine under breezy, with the upgrade I reformated my HD & started from scratch - and now there's no sound, even though the Sound setting show the correct onboard driver - wierdness. Anyhow, anybody got any advice?07:13
Flannelkaizoku: oh, sorry,no I just missed it, three times looking.07:13
kaizokuno problem07:14
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Bruvawound = sound (typo)07:14
Geoffrey2actually, my notebook has a Broadcom internal, and I fought like crazy before giving up on ever getting it to work...installed the Orinoco card and went right online07:14
KachingoInduane: I'll probibly sound like a n00b, but what is wine?07:14
qatsiBruva: do alsamixer in terminal, mute the external amplifier, it always works that way :p07:14
kaizokuit's an emulator to run windows programs07:14
phiber_optichow do i do to update to dapper drake??07:14
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kaizokuit stands for (W)ine (i)s (n)ot an (e)mulator07:15
Induane_Kachingo wine is a special compatiblity layer that allows you to run many windows programs in linux07:15
Bruva<qatsi> Cheers mate, I'll give it a try07:15
troy_subotu, tell phiber_optic about ugprade07:15
kiko0123kaizoku, what is it then ?07:15
bobstrohmm... after upgrade to dapper, volume + & - are reversed. is this common?07:15
ilba7rtroy_s: have you looked into my paste bin it is simplistic http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1559007:15
phiber_optic!upgrade07:15
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)07:15
KachingoInduane: Do I need it for this program?07:15
xicebobstro, LOl i had the same problem, except only in a beta07:16
kaizokukiko@123: it is an emulator07:16
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Induane_Kachingo I use it to play diablo II, world of Warcraft (patched wine) warcraft III, age of empires II, starcraft, etc... No its not needed for gtk-gnutella but its a convientent tool to have07:16
bobstroxice:  not lethal, but annoying :) did you fix it?07:16
rixthcrimsun_, you around?07:16
kiko0123kaizoku, when why it's named (W)ine (i)s (n)ot an (e)mulator?07:16
kaizokukiko@123: for some reason the developers named it that... I don't know07:16
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kiko0123hehk07:16
KachingoInduane: I see07:16
crimsun_rixth: yes, but a fair number of people are queued. What's up?07:16
NoWhereToTurn.07:16
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rixthHow do I control what mixer the volume up/down keys on by keyboard control?07:16
Induane_kiko0123 because they didn't want people to think it was an emulator because emulators are known for being buggy and slow07:17
bazaldit is not an emulator because it doesn't emulate a Windows box07:17
xicebobstro, nope, my laptop is still runnung the beta07:17
rixthCurrently they affect the 'Master Mono' slider.07:17
Induane_plus everyone in the linux world seems to love recursive acyronyms07:17
kiko0123k07:17
xicerixth, System -> keyboard shortcuts07:17
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rixthxice, no07:17
xicerixth, no why?07:17
Geoffrey2kiko0123, instead of reopening the debate on whether WINE is an emulator or not, in short, it simply allows you to run Windows programs on a Linux platform07:17
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rixthThat just lets you set the key. Not what slider it controls.07:18
Induane_Kachingo did that sources.list allow you to get a newer gtk-gnutella07:18
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xiceoh well then im not sure07:18
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thomasMlet me just throw this in the mix... qemu lets you install any operating system inside any operating system. thats an emulator.07:18
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distanceisdeathhey, is anyone here dual booting on a mac mini?07:18
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spikebnope, i single boot on a mac mini07:18
rixth!tell distanceisdeath about anyone07:18
thomasMlol.07:19
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distanceisdeathokay, well i need help on it07:19
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distanceisdeathi really dont feel like screwing it up07:19
Samus_Arananyone know what that command was that shows you the current font path, and which fonts the X server found ?07:19
rixth!tell distanceisdeath about ask07:19
rixth=)07:19
jabra_so been trying to get my samsung palm to sync for a few months now with dapper with no luck07:19
crimsun_rixth: what do you want the hotkeys to control?07:19
jabra_getting a strange error from jpilot when I go to sync07:19
rixthcrimsun_, PCM07:19
crimsun_rixth: cat /proc/asound/modules07:19
AngryElfmmk, I just installed libboost-dev and am trying to compile something using it and i'm getting linking errors -- how do i link it up?07:20
bazaldcould anyone name a good pcmcia wifi a/b/g card that works in Ubuntu out of the box for me? my dwl-650 prism2 is lacking07:20
rixthcrimsun_, snd_via82xx07:20
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distanceisdeathspikeb, how does the mini run?07:20
spikebdistanceisdeath: very very well07:20
distanceisdeathwhich do you have?07:20
spikebdistanceisdeath: first gen07:20
distanceisdeathahh07:21
crimsun_rixth: do you have a headphone jack?07:21
spikebso a G407:21
distanceisdeathim getting the intel core duo tomorrow07:21
spikebooh07:21
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distanceisdeathyeah, but i want linux on it..07:21
spikebdistanceisdeath: i dont think the intel macs are very well supported yet, but i would love to get one the day they are07:21
rixthcrimsun_, on what? I have the 3 coloured sockets on the back of my motherboard and one of the control pod of my speckers07:21
crimsun_rixth: ok, then you'll need to adjust the hotkey-setup07:21
distanceisdeaththat made no sense, spikeb07:21
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distanceisdeathwait nevermind07:22
spikebhgehe07:22
crimsun_rixth: there's documentation on that, but I need to return to my queue07:22
jabra_getting a strange error from jpilot when I go to sync07:22
distanceisdeathwhat do you mean they arent well supported?07:22
rixthAlright, alsa documentation? Or gnome documentation?07:22
KachingoInduane: Hold on still getting there. For some reasons some repositories that I thought were enabled aren't07:22
spikebdistanceisdeath: hardware issues.07:22
nf4what is the differance in screensavers from 5.10 to 6.0607:22
distanceisdeathspikeb, the hardware is crazy for that thing07:22
bobstrobazald:  i'm after the same, preferably one that works with kismet with no driver mods.07:22
nf4it seems that some screensavers that worked in 5.10 no longer work with 6.0607:22
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kunalhi07:23
spikebdistanceisdeath: the kernel is still being patched with support for the various hardware in the new intel macs, as far as i know. :)07:23
distanceisdeathspikeb, do you know any time it will be finished?07:23
kunalanyone has audio problems like speaker works headphones do not07:23
spikebdistanceisdeath: not a clue07:23
dixiekunal: i had a problem with skype07:23
bobstrokunal: laptop?07:24
spikebdistanceisdeath: in fact, my info is a bit outdated, so hte situation might be a bit better now07:24
distanceisdeathspikeb, well i still wanna do it. haha07:24
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distanceisdeathspike, ill check it out07:24
kunalI have a DESKTOP with Intel Board and using on-board audio07:24
spikebdistanceisdeath: cool07:24
kunaldixie were you able to fix your problem07:24
SAM_themanbrb07:24
dixiekunal: yes, i was playing with mixer07:24
kunalalsamixer you mean dixie07:25
Geoffrey2If I'm looking for a particular application, and I want to see if there is either a ubuntu or at least a Linux program for it...where is the best place to search?07:25
kunalcan you please tell me what you did07:25
dixiekunal: sorry i can't remember :(07:25
bazaldbobstro: yeah, the card I was using worked in 5.10 (configuration required) but I'm not having any luck in 6.06... I'm not really in the mood for card hunting with the potential for returns either07:25
spikebheh07:26
CaptainMorganwhat debuggers are availabe for Kubuntu?07:26
distanceisdeathspikeb, do you know what the point of applescript is?07:26
kunaldixie anyways but did your problem solve were you able to get your speakers and headphones to work07:26
CaptainMorganbesides xlst?07:26
FlannelGeoffrey2: google, for linux, packages.ubuntu.com (or synaptic) for ubuntu repositories07:26
nf4is there a way to install the 5.10 screensaver program on 6.0607:26
KachingoInduane: OMGWTF my sources list is blank. How do you restore a backup?07:26
dixiekunal: yes07:26
Flannel!tell Kachingo about sources07:26
spikebdistanceisdeath: yeah, it's like having python support in an app - being able to write scripts that use the app, or extend the app itself07:26
nf4or  a way to make a link to the screensaver i want to use07:26
kunalok can you tell me a bit about mixer dixie07:26
dixiekunal: i had a problem with microphone07:26
distanceisdeathso its for developing? i learned python.07:26
Geoffrey2Flannel, AH, that was the address I was looking for, thanks :)07:26
spikebnf4: yes07:27
distanceisdeathpython is good?07:27
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spikebnf4: the old screensaver program is called xscreensaver07:27
dixiekunal: so i don't know if it is the same problem like you have07:27
kunaldixie microphone is working fine have problem with headphone07:27
spikebdistanceisdeath: yes it is!07:27
bobstrodistanceisdeath:  unless you're a gerbil, sure07:27
wakybash and pythin are good :D07:27
nf4becouse it seemsthat if i use terminal the screensaver works but only if  i have gnome-scrensaver uninstalled07:27
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distanceisdeathshut up bobstro07:27
dixiekunal: aha, sorry... so i didn't understand your problem :)07:27
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bobstrodistanceisdeath:  blow me07:27
distanceisdeathspikeb, is python all ready on the mac mini07:27
crimsun_bobstro: / distanceisdeath: quit it.07:27
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distanceisdeathfine07:27
spikebdistanceisdeath: no if you want python with osx you need to install it seperately07:28
kunaldixie I have headphone connection on the front panel...I get no sound from headphone07:28
spikebdistanceisdeath: but applescript is also fairly easy to learn07:28
distanceisdeathspikeb, and it will run through applescript07:28
distanceisdeathspikeb, is it a language?07:28
kunaldixie: I get sound from the speakers which are connected on the back07:28
spikebdistanceisdeath: yeah applescript is a language07:28
dixiekunal: is this headphones working with another OS ?07:28
distanceisdeathspikeb, is it easier than python?07:28
kunalI have only Linux on my machine07:28
bobstrokunal:  have you gone through mixer settings? i was surprised headphones on my (intel audio) laptop was separate from main speakers.07:29
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spikebdistanceisdeath: kind of, but not really. it uses an english like syntax07:29
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kunalby the way headphones are working condition...they are new07:29
cvpCan anyone here recommend a free video converter?07:29
nf4ok so how to i make a link to x-screensaver in my system drop down07:29
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nf4like it is in 5.1007:29
distanceisdeathspikeb, so its better to go with python07:29
spikebnf4: it should automatically put one there for you07:29
SAM_themanback07:29
bobstrokunal:  the main volume control defaulted to speakers, but not headphones -- nearly blew my ears out on the plane the other day.07:29
spikebdistanceisdeath: i would yeah07:29
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distanceisdeathspikeb, okay cool07:30
kunalbobstro where do i see that07:30
nf4i had to open it from terminal07:30
distanceisdeathspikeb, what are the executables called? .exe?07:30
cvpHow do I preview the screensavers?07:30
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kunalhow do I get to main volume control07:30
spikebdistanceisdeath: .py07:30
spikebdistanceisdeath: for python07:30
sonyGood news guys07:30
bobstrokunal:  i think i did alsa-mixer07:30
spikebdistanceisdeath: for osx stuff, usually .app07:30
sonyI have revived another computer!07:30
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webhedHey all, I have a Deskbar (maybe Beagle) question. It seems to only index items in my /home dir but I want it to index other places as well. I have a separate hdd that is not mounted under /home where I keep a lot of work docs. I can't get it to see those docs no matter what. Anyone have any ideas?07:30
kunalI am doing that but the confusing part is PCM and Front Both control the speakers07:31
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cvpHow do I preview screensavers?07:31
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bobstrokunal:  ah, i had an actual "headphones" setting07:31
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distanceisdeathspikeb, how do you get a .py to .app program?07:31
cvpLike, seriously, how do I preview screensavers full-screen?07:31
distanceisdeathis there one?07:31
kunalyeah and I am missing that...what is your hardware and which version of alsa are you using07:31
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cvpThe option to is totally gone.07:31
crimsun_kunal: element enumeration is chipset+codec-dependent07:32
wamdHi all07:32
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spikebdistanceisdeath: dont need to - if the app has python support, it will use it, and if the app is entirely written in python, it doesnt need .app far as i know07:32
bobstrokunal:  it's a dell laptop, but has intel audio. not on it now... and this one's being difficult.07:32
tripppyI love dapper. but it turned off my autologin. now i can't find the option to turn it back on.07:32
nullDoes anyone know how to put the trash can on my ubuntu desktop?07:32
distanceisdeathspikeb, so how will i distrobute my program07:32
kunalI got some 1.10. something alsa07:32
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kunalit is missing headphones bar07:32
cvpnull: link to it?07:32
spikebdistanceisdeath: im not quite sure about that - i havent distributed any programs myself07:32
duanehey my screen isnt bright enough at the max setting. how do i make it brighter?07:32
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cvpnull: the folder is ".Trash" in your home folder07:33
nf4who's bright idea was it to use gnome-screensavers07:33
distanceisdeathspikeb, in .py? or .app?07:33
wamdJust wondering if someone can help me figure out how to install a newer version of an install app from source.  IOW, how can I make Synaptic aware of the change and start using the newer version.07:33
webhedanyone on the deskbar question?07:33
spikebdistanceisdeath: probably .app07:33
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nf4this seems like a outdated piece of software07:33
nullI dont see trash folder in my home folder07:33
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cvpit's called ".Trash" - it has a period in front of the folder name, which means it's hidden07:33
spikebnull it's a hidden directory07:34
distanceisdeathspikeb, so what about the .py? do i change the file name?07:34
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Random_Transithey, I'm trying to add a splashscreen to GRUB...and it's not working07:34
nullhow do I unhide it and put it on my desktop?07:34
bobstroRandom_Transit:  i just did that :)07:34
spikebdistanceisdeath: no, .app is like a wrapper, so your .py thing will be inside it07:34
cvpnull: if you go to your view options and choose to see hidden folders, you'll see a whole lot more folders you never knew was in your home folder07:34
spikebdistanceisdeath: apple has some docs on .app07:34
bobstroRandom_Transit:  a new one, or from the deb?07:34
cvpnull: ZOMG you do NOT want to rename/move .Trash07:34
wamdI currently have SQLite3.2.8 installed on 6.06 and I downloaded and compiled the source for SQLite3.3.6 how can I get Ubuntu to start using 3.3.607:34
cvpnull: just link to it from your desktop07:34
Random_Transita new one07:34
distanceisdeathspikeb, all right thanks07:34
nullok ill try, thanks!07:34
Random_Transitcurrently i don't have one at all07:35
bobstroRandom_Transit:  is it in right format etc.? i found some howtos07:35
cvpdoes anyone have any recommendations for a video converter?07:35
tripppyI love dapper. but it turned off my autologin. now i can't find the option to turn it back on.07:35
cvpfor linux, obviously?07:35
spikebdistanceisdeath: basically, .app is an "application directory". inside of it, are the executable (or executables), icons, and other resources, and when one double clicks on the .app, it runs07:35
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bobstrotripppy:  for me, it's in System->Administration->Login Window07:35
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Madpilotnull, go alt+F2, type 'gconf-editor' and look thru Nautilus's options for "show Trash on desktop"07:35
bazaldwamd: If you ensure that the installation prefix is the same used in the original package, the new files should simply overwrite the old ones07:36
Random_Transitbobstro, the format is .xpm.gz07:36
distanceisdeathspikeb, okay, but what if there isnt python on the machine, that the user is trying to run07:36
Ferniii have a problem with trying to install a debian-based package.  I try and install xkali, and it tells me that the libqt3c102-mt is not satisfiable07:36
spikebdistanceisdeath: you will need to tell the user how to install python07:36
tripppygot i07:36
spikebdistanceisdeath: assumming it's not installed by default. i can't remember07:36
distanceisdeathspikeb, ah all right07:36
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distanceisdeathspikeb, i will see tomorrow07:36
spikebdistanceisdeath: sweet07:36
spikebdistanceisdeath: enjoy the mini07:37
nulli enabled view options and there is no trash folder in the home folder07:37
distanceisdeathspikeb, hopefully. macbook pro;s are so sick07:37
cvpis there any way that i can preview the screensavers in dapper in fullscreen mode?07:37
nulli told it to show hidden options07:37
nullor hidden files07:37
cvpnull: it has a period in front of its name07:37
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nullits not there07:37
nulli swear07:37
SurfnKidcvp, thats the same thing i wanna do07:38
cvpnull: simple experiment - with your terminal, go "cd ~/.Trash"07:38
nullwait it just showed up07:38
cvpnull: just like that, huh?07:38
nulli had to refresh07:38
cvplol07:38
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Random_Transitbobstro, any idea what the problem is?07:38
cvpSurfnKid: have you found any way to yet?07:38
bobstroRandom_Transit:  http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/ worked for me07:39
Random_Transitcool07:39
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MystaMaxhow do i find out the size of each partition in kilobytes or megabytes??07:39
SurfnKidcvp, nope, i liked how Breezy had options, but Dapper just removed any manipulation07:39
Snoopsright click on partition07:39
ChetwinHey all07:39
Snoopsproperties..07:39
MystaMaxSnoops, NO GUI, sorry07:39
MadpilotMysta, "df -h"07:39
cvpSurfnKid: bloody seriously... i'm asuming their decision was to hide it and not destroy the option outright...07:39
nullfar out man i got it07:39
Random_Transitalso, I've downloaded an RSS ticker panel app for gnome, and i can't get it to show up in the "add to panel" screen07:40
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Madpilotcva, file bugs against gnome-screensaver, it needs serious work...07:40
Togehello07:40
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distanceisdeathspikeb, does xcode support python?07:40
SurfnKidcvp, yeah, i guess its ok, its an old laptop too07:40
spikebdistanceisdeath: no idea.07:40
Togei'm looking for an pdf editor07:40
MystaMaxthanks Madpilot, Is it possible to see the partitions which aren't mounted yet??07:40
SnoopsChetwin I tried out warty - wasn't too impressed.. then skipped breezy..using dapper now and gosh07:41
Togedo you know one?07:41
Snoopsso impressed07:41
MadpilotMystaMax, no idea07:41
SurfnKidcvp, but on my other Dell laptop i have a good GL card so it helps to see options, and preview07:41
nullnow how can i give it a cool trash icon?07:41
distanceisdeathspikeb, do you know what that is07:41
cvpMadpilot: is there any way to change my... what would you call it, screensaver manager?07:41
spikebdistanceisdeath: yes i do07:41
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ChetwinSnoops: Hey what a diff huh?07:41
distanceisdeathspikeb, do you program07:41
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nulla "cool" one that is07:41
spikebdistanceisdeath: yeah i do07:41
cvpMadpilot: y'know, my screensaver app07:41
spikebdistanceisdeath: i'm not very good at it though heh07:41
Madpilotcvp, I think you can remove gnomescreensaver & re-install xscreensaver, which is what Breezy used07:41
cvpMadpilot: will try, danke07:42
SnoopsChetwin yep.. lots of great apps.. some tinkering required.. but nothing too obscene (yet).. and the whole xgl/compiz thing..well that's a whole new dimension for me07:42
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DyegovI have a problem, I've finally intalled ubuntu 5.10, but I can't change the sreen resolution, waht can I do?07:42
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cvpDyegov: the solution is to update to ubuntu 6.0607:42
spikebheh07:42
ChetwinSnoops: Have you had a "go" with a broadcom wireless device yet?07:42
nullanyone?   how can i make the trash folder on my desktop have a cool trash can icon?07:42
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distanceisdeathspikeb, what program do you use to program07:42
MystaMaxMadpilot, fdisk -u -l -s gets me the patitions but the size in I believe blocks.07:42
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SnoopsChetwin nah, no wireless on my pc's..07:42
elephanthunterDyegov: Did you try System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution?07:42
Unintentionalhey, does anyone know the command to get the size of a file or folder in bytes?07:42
MadpilotMystaMax, stick "-h" in there for human-readable07:42
spikebdistanceisdeath: many things - on osx i used xcode and objective-c, on linux it depends on the language07:42
blaze^^hello, how can i remove a just installed game (for example  Enemy Territory)07:42
Snoopsit did detect all my sata 2 drives off the bat though :)07:42
spikebdistanceisdeath: and on windows i use java07:43
Dyegovcvp, is there any other way? I wont receive it until 1 moth more07:43
SurfnKidMadpilot, thanks for that tip on xscreensaver07:43
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distanceisdeathspikeb, okay..07:43
steev-dellhttp://pastebin.ca/64703 can someone assist with this? perl keeps complaining that the default locale isn't being set, and i've run dpkg-reconfigure locales a few times - always the same output - as seen in the url at the beginning of this07:43
ChetwinSnoops: Without the Broadcom issue (which I blame on Brodacom, not Big Mark) it's a perfect distro for a lot of people07:43
CaptainMorganhow do you command line unstall something?07:43
Dyegovelephanthunter, yes, I've done it, but it only shows one option07:43
MadpilotMystaMax, you can actually run all those options together: df -ulsh07:43
spikebCaptainMorgan: apt-get remove07:43
CaptainMorganthanks07:43
SnoopsChetwin ya know actually, ubuntu detected everything - including the volume control on a MS keyboard.. Great really07:43
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ChetwinSnoops, I myself was astonished when my hp volume keys worked at first boot07:44
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DyegovI have a problem, I've finally intalled ubuntu 5.10, but I can't change the sreen resolution, what can I do?07:45
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elephanthunterDyegov: Try running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"07:45
Unintentionalanyone?  command to get filesize?07:45
Snoopsthe only thing I'm having trouble doing in ubuntu is a screen capture - showing off my awesome xgl/compiz config07:45
UnintentionalDyegov: what happens when you try?07:45
Induane_<Kachingo> Induane: OMGWTF my sources list is blank. How do you restore a backup?07:45
garryfre!xorg.conf07:45
DyegovUnintentional, there's just one option07:45
ubotugarryfre: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:45
Flannel!tell Induane_ about repositories07:45
Induane_<Kachingo> Induane: OMGWTF my sources list is blank. How do you restore a backup? <--- use mine07:46
Induane_vaalnor.mine.nu/sources.list07:46
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Induane_download it then copy it by using sudo cp insert_download_location/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list07:46
Dyegovcan somebody help me?07:47
Induane_or sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and copy and paste the text from mine into yours and save it.07:47
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Madpilotubotu, tell Dyegov about fixres07:47
MadpilotDyegov, check the PM from the bot07:47
Induane_Kachingo and then run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella07:47
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SurfnKidi seriously need to get some more ram for this laptop07:48
Dyegovthanx07:48
SurfnKidbut its running smoothly on Dapper07:48
bobstroMadeye:  tell me too! i edited xorg.conf, but i don't suppose that's the best way07:48
Chetwin!fixres07:48
ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:48
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Madeyebobstro, you must mean maddler, maddox  or Madpilot07:48
bobstroer... heh, yeah. madpilot07:49
nbound!multimedia07:49
ubotumultimedia is, like, totally, for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications07:49
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Madpilotbobstro, if you meant me, do "/msg ubotu fixres07:49
SurfnKidHow can I get Xubnutu on my desktop using Dapper?07:49
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SurfnKiddo I just remove the GNOME and install XFCE?07:49
cafuegowhat?07:49
FlannelSurfnKid: no needto remove gnome, but you can07:49
SurfnKidFlannel, ah07:49
FlannelSurfnKid: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop07:49
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SurfnKidFlannel, so itll be left as option07:50
Flannelxubuntu-desktop is the meta package07:50
bobstroMadpilot:  oh, heh. i edited my xorg.conf. i guess that's the measure of last resort.07:50
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FlannelSurfnKid: right, you can convert between all three at will, or have them all installed and switch each session, or whatever07:50
SurfnKidFlannel, is it lighter, im dragging a bit07:50
FlannelSurfnKid: very much so07:50
SurfnKidah nice07:50
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SurfnKidok thx07:50
MadpilotSurfnKid, XFCE is lighter, yeah07:50
RancidLMim very new to VPN's can can some one help answer a few questions i have?07:50
SurfnKidI assume KDE is kubunut-desktop07:50
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MadpilotSurfnKid, kubuntu-desktop, yes07:51
pd271RancidLM: I could try07:51
SurfnKidok ill try them07:51
SurfnKidtill ican buy a 256 stick, ill have to get on one of those07:51
SurfnKidbut Im just happy i got my apt-get sources to update!07:51
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SurfnKidBig mess! linked ad-hoc thru an XP machine which connects to a cable modem07:51
DeathGuppiehey, where can I find the nvidia driver?07:52
SurfnKidno other way to get it to update, synaptic is weird07:52
garryfre!nviia07:52
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, garryfre07:52
Madpilot!nvidia07:53
ubotunvidia is probably Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia07:53
RancidLMpd271: i would like to set up a vpn for a network .. but what should i use for a linux VPN server.. and What linux Clients good to connect to a VPN without messing up all my network settings when i wanna dissconnect from the vpn ?07:53
RancidLMpd271: is thier like a linux vpn client gui?07:53
pd271RancidLM: kvpnc is a good client07:53
DeathGuppieubotu: thanks.. it's nice to see help when you need it! ;)07:54
ubotugraag gedaan, DeathGuppie07:54
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pd271RancidLM: and for the server you can use OpenVPN07:54
SurfnKidguys, when i do the aptget, xubuntu wants to install all these packages! is it that many, its over 50,  about 195mb07:54
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SurfnKid:|07:54
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RancidLMpd271: how many nic cards doa vpn server need?07:54
MadpilotDeathGuppie, ubotu is a bot, just so you know ;)07:54
pd271RancidLM:  http://openvpn.net/ OpenVPN was the easiest for me to set up07:54
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rixthWoop. My new wireless router uses Linux. Can't wait to flash it with something new.07:54
ubehey guys07:54
FlannelSurfnKid: of course, youre installing an entirely different WM.07:55
bobstrorixth:  which?07:55
cafuegoRancidLM: a minimum of none07:55
rixthbobstro, Linksys WRT54GL07:55
pd271RancidLM: well if you are going to setup a VPN sever then you would need two, one connecting to the internet and the the other connecting to you local LAN07:55
ubewhen installing kubuntu i get "kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(8,1)"07:55
akudewanHi, I'm in the middle of a dist-upgrade, and I'm being asked something about "Postfix Configuration". I don't even know what Postfix is! what do I do ?07:55
bobstrorixth:  ah, i've got some of the oldies. they're great.07:55
cafuegorixth: Didn't the GL version *not* run Linux?07:55
SurfnKidFlannel, made sense of course, but i guess 195 is still nothing compared to other packages07:55
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nbound!multiverse07:55
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.07:55
cafuegovxworks or somesuch?07:55
SurfnKid!w3207:55
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid07:55
garryfre!postfix07:56
ubotu[postfix]  the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto07:56
rixthcafuego, nah, there is the WRT54G out, version 5 uses vxWorks. The L model is basically just a WRT45G version 4.07:56
SurfnKid!HurricaneAlbertPredictionWhere'sItGonnaHit07:56
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid07:56
cafuegorixth: ah, ok :-)07:56
SurfnKid:P07:56
ube!kernel07:56
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akudewanthanks07:56
MadpilotSurfnKid, please don't spam the bot. Thanks.07:56
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needhelp_I have an nForce2 motherboard, and want all the sounds to be played through the optical port. I've gotten every single sound to do this perfectly, except for flash files/things played through firefox. Is there a single settings somewhere that I've missed?07:56
meherenanyone here experenced with ipod_linux?07:57
rixthSurfnKid, play with him in #debian-bots07:57
SurfnKidhe's a fun guy07:57
bobstrorixth:  next you need to put debian on an nslu2 (NAS)07:57
mehereni need some help installin git07:57
cafuegoneedhelp_: You forgot that flash sucks ;-)07:57
meheren*it07:57
needhelp_oh no, I knew that one07:57
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SurfnKidrixth, hehe07:57
rixthbobstro, I originally looked at getting an nslu2. Then decided to get a 500mhz machine to make a raid array =)07:58
rixthIt uses Dapper, too.07:58
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bobstrorixth:  yeah. lot's of noise and head for a backup for me though.07:58
DeathGuppiedoes anyone know what the command for dhcpcd in ubuntu is.. by chance.. please.. with sugar?07:58
bobstrorixth:  then again, you could make that same box your router, no?07:58
meherenanyone here familiar with ipod-Linux?07:58
rixth!tell meheren about repeat07:59
steev-dellif i installed stuff from edgy, how do i downgrade it?07:59
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Madpilotmeheren, #ipodlinux07:59
meherenrixth, hehe... sry07:59
rixthbobstro, it'd be disasterous for us to lose all our families data. Not really, it'd have to be a wireless router too for one. Also, it's not in my house, it's about 60ft away in the shed07:59
steev-delli changed my sources.list back to the original, but it says that my packages are all up to date07:59
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rixthIncase the house burns down!07:59
ubecan someone tell me what "kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(8,1)" means08:00
bobstroDeathGuppie:  did you install one?08:00
rixthube, usually means a harddrive failure08:00
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nbound!ubotu08:00
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.08:00
uberixth: but i have windows installed on a partition08:00
nbound:P08:00
rixthube, can you boot that?08:00
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DeathGuppiebobstro: it was up.. so I assume so.  why it's not working now, I don't know.08:00
uberixth: yeah. i just installed windows today08:00
steev-dellube: it also sometimes means that root isn't set properly in /etc/fstab08:00
DyegovAhh I'm all confused and didn't understand anything from that guide08:01
ubesteev-dell: im booting of a kubuntu cd08:01
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rixthHm, dunno, then. Sounds like you overwrote something simportant.08:01
DeathGuppiebobstro: I'm assuming ubuntu has some similar functionality to dhcpcd08:01
bobstroDeathGuppie:  which did you install?08:01
steev-dellthe cd doesn't boot then?08:01
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rixthube, did you change the partition table?08:01
ubesteev-dell: cd boots08:01
bobstroDeathGuppie:  yes, several options but not installed by default (i don't thik)08:01
garryfre!dhcp08:01
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, garryfre08:01
SurfnKidok brb i gotta install so much stuff now08:01
DeathGuppiebobstro: I didn't but my network was up..08:02
uberixth: windows is set to half the hard drive, the rest is emtpy08:02
DyegovI still have the same problem with the resolution08:02
bobstroDeathGuppie:  to be clear -- you want the box to be a dhcp *server* ?08:02
rixthube, oh, so you can't boot the live cd?08:02
uberixth: i get to the menu where it asks to run or install the cd, i boot into text mode and i get that error08:02
DeathGuppiebobstro: no.. the dhcpcd is just the client08:02
bobstroDeathGuppie:  ah... sorry08:02
ubei need to boot into text mode bc i dont think it'll support my nvidia 780008:03
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bobstroDeathGuppie:  no dhclient?08:03
bazaldbobstro: the Netgear WG511T is looking like the most likely candidate for an "out of box" wifi card08:03
DeathGuppiebobstro: so how do you restart the network, is what I'm asking08:03
bazaldunless anyone tells me otherwise, I might go for it in the near future08:03
bobstrobazald:  ah, cool. will write that down.08:03
RancidLMpd271: thnx!08:03
DeathGuppiebobstro: in all other linux's it's dhcpcd08:03
pd271ok RancidLM :)08:03
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pd271RancidLM: just gave you a few hints08:04
nelisahello there08:04
garryfreYou will likely need to hand add the resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and also find out your horizontal and vertical refresh rate ranges and put them in via sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:04
bobstroDeathGuppie:  ifdown/ifup work?08:04
bobstroDeathGuppie:  strange that it died though!08:04
nelisahow come I cannot access any administrative stuff here08:04
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rixthHow can I get the meda keys working on my keyboard? Most of them do not have a keycode assigned yet.08:04
nelisaI;m trying to configure my services, but it never loads08:04
garryfrethat is if the dkpg reconfigure of xerver failed to fix it.08:04
nelisaneither can I run updates08:05
Madpilotnelisa, what never loads?08:05
DeathGuppiebobstro: ok.. you said it dhclient.. it's just a different demon.. same thing08:05
DyegovI can't fix my resolution problem, I want my ubuntu to be 1024X(i dont remember)08:05
nelisathe service management interface08:05
nelisaor the update service08:05
bobstrorixth:  System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts worked for me08:05
rixthnelisa, open up a terminal and enter 'sudo services-admin'08:05
rixthbobstro, yeah, worked for some but not all have keycodes at the kernle level assigned08:06
Madpilotnelisa, does the password window come up?08:06
garryfre1024X75608:06
garryfreer 1024 76808:06
nelisait asks for password on the terminal, I provided and it get me back to prompt in termina08:06
nelisawhat now?08:06
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DyegovI don't like this linux like thism, it's very big!!!08:07
garryfreUse your normal account password08:07
bobstroDyegov:  i edited my xorg.conf like the wiki example08:07
rixthnelisa, no error? I'm not sure nthen sorry08:07
Madpilotnelisa, you're using your user pw, the one you gave during install?08:07
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rixthMadpilot, if she gave the wrong password it would say..08:07
Snoopshow can I change the resolution boot screen?08:07
bobstroit's a gui program, no?08:07
rixthbobstro, yeah08:07
bobstrogksudo perhaps?08:07
nelisafor simplicity sake I set root and user the same08:07
DyegovBut This is my first time with linux, and I don't understand anything that says bobstro08:07
garryfreyep, gksudo too08:08
DeathGuppieman gentoo was soo much easier..08:08
Madpilotnelisa, why did you create a root pw? There isn't one by default, and it's not needed...08:08
bobstroDyegov:  ah, it is cryptic. sorry, i don't know an easier way.08:08
nelisait said it would be more secure that way08:08
bobstroDeathGuppie:  it's different, that's for sure.08:08
Dyegovso, should I keep it like this?08:08
DyegovIt's making me crazy08:08
Snoopsnot hte grub boot screen.. but the ubuntu boot screen, while it's showing it's loading modules.. I hate the low res one it uses, so would like to change it.. is that possible?08:09
nelisain the taskbar I can see thet theres starting services, but it then dissappears08:09
Madpilotnelisa, no, it wouldn't really be. Have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:09
bobstroDyegov:  well, you want to change it but the tools to fix it automatically arent working for you it seems. i'd read through that wiki page and try it.08:09
nelisahow do I remove the root password then08:09
DeathGuppiebobstro: actually, slackware is pretty simple too.. gentoo's biggest problem is the non standard filesystem08:09
nelisabut I don't really sse how can that affect functionality like this08:09
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bobstroDeathGuppie:  at the risk of being kicked, there's a bit of "freedom from choice" involved with ubuntu i think.08:10
Madpilotnelisa, please read that wiki page I gave you08:10
Dyegovbobstro, could you please give me the link again?08:10
bobstroDyegov:  er.... i didn't provide it. will see if i can find it.08:10
DyegovOk08:10
bobstroDyegov:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:10
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nelisaok08:10
garryfrehttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2908:10
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garryfreThat link works for ubuntu as well as kbuntu08:11
bobstroDeathGuppie:  i'm still adjusting to things disappearing that i take for granted. not a bad thing, necessarily, but an adjustment.08:11
Carwreckhey all, could someone tell me if the Dlink DWL-G650 is supported by ubuntu yet08:11
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DeathGuppiebobstro: I can see helicopters and guys with gas masks closing in on you..08:11
rixth!tell Carwreck about wireless08:12
Dyegovthax a lot bobstro08:12
bobstroDeathGuppie:  they're humorless here sometimes :)08:12
bobstroDyegov:  good luck with it!08:12
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vineetI still haven't had any luck with my MA111 ... I'm about ready to give up and go back to sarge =(08:12
bobstroDeathGuppie:  only they wear Birkenstocks08:12
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garryfreI see the folks with the masks on fall down because they forgot to turn on the oxygen.08:12
bobstro!tell bobstro about wireless08:12
Flashq001cool I got ubuntu working08:13
garryfreTrats Flash08:13
garryfreer grats08:13
Carwreck!madwifi08:13
ubotufor help with madwifi please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManagerMadwifi08:13
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Flashq001Now where do I go to use wireless in ubuntu if I install it on laptop/notebook?08:14
rabidphagegreetings...08:14
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avisi just wanted to say that i appreciate everyone in the ubuntu community and i've had a great experience being helped and helping other people and that i hope it rocks the linux world.  for now though i am gone and shall return to another domain.  i most especially would hope that someone give thoreaupeutic my regards and this message for his encouragement.08:14
avisciao folks.  its been -- wonderful.08:14
bobstroavis:  where ... are you going?08:15
spikebyou're welcome avis08:15
avisheh08:15
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DeathGuppiebobstro: well burkinstocks, and gas masks can work.. :)08:15
avisi dont know i think i've crossed the threshold :)08:15
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rabidphagehow can i configure the laptop fan.. it never seems to shut down.. the temp hovers around 43..08:15
avistake care all.  peace.08:15
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nelisaMadpilot, not of much use08:15
bobstroDeathGuppie:  heh. my head hurts thinking about it.08:15
nelisaI'm still locked away from updates08:16
Madpilotnelisa, enabling root can bugger things up in Ubuntu - as you're discovering...08:16
nelisaFailed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:08:16
nelisa Child terminated with 1 status08:16
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rabidphageits draining my batteries.. please help08:16
HellDragonwe are on #ubuntu08:16
HellDragonnot on #itelleverybodyaboutmylife08:17
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DeathGuppiebobstro: I'm just installing it because the blender crystalspace export doesn't work on my system, and I need it for a game I'm doing some graphics for.. I kind of like the image..:)08:17
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nelisaI can see that, but I've never seen a distro act like that because of a root password08:17
rabidphageHellDragon: r u talkin to me??08:17
nelisa@)08:17
HellDragonno08:17
HellDragonim talking to Cass08:17
Dyegovbobstro, it says I have to select one option, For Dapper 6.06: or For Breezy 5.10 (and earlier): , what's that?08:18
rabidphageHellDragon: cheers..:)08:18
HellDragoncheers if u like bears08:18
bobstroDyegov:  which did you install?08:18
nelisais there an easy way to a recovery install?08:18
rabidphageHellDragon: sure do..08:18
HellDragon:)08:18
DyegovI've installed ubuntu 5.10, is it Breezy?08:18
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Madpilotnelisa, do you have a seperate partition for your /home?08:18
MadpilotDyegov, yes08:18
Dyegovextrange thing, thanx08:19
MadpilotDyegov, which page are you on, btw?08:19
nelisaI have my ntfs XP pro partition, ext3 and swap and some still unpatitioned space08:19
Dyegovhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-42bafbcee7a10ed50f2d9016555557b9874be25208:19
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MadpilotDyegov, thanks, I'll edit that so it's clearer :)08:20
rabidphagedudes any ideas regarding the fan issue08:20
DyegovOK08:20
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detectiveinspekthow do i install java runtime?08:21
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Dyegovwhen I try to do what it says, it shows: "sudo: cp: command not found" What's that?08:21
Madpilotnelisa, have a look at that wiki page's "Disabling the Root Acct" section: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo#head-b06dbcd33c40480dcfd3aada1ca67bbd77f8059408:21
nelisayep08:21
garryfreMy guess is to look at System/Preferences power management or google for dapper fan speed08:22
nelisado I do that?08:22
rabidphagedetectiveinspekt: its on the wiki somewhere.. just do a search.. its easy08:22
Madpilotnelisa, if you've already enabled the root acct, then yes.08:22
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nelisalet me  try that08:22
Madpilotubotu, tell detectiveinspekt about java08:22
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nelisadone, didn't gave error nor success08:23
nelisathe command just ran, now what?08:23
DyegovMadpilot, when I try to do what it says, it shows: "sudo: cp: command not found" What's that?08:23
MadpilotDyegov, what exactly did you type?08:23
xonicanyone know to to install compiz and xgl on an ati?08:23
rabidphagedetectiveinspekt: dya want me to look it up 4 u? i'm kinda lazy u see.:)08:24
Dyegovsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom08:24
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xonicanyone?08:24
DyegovMadpilot: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom08:24
MadpilotDyegov, that looks like a good terminal command to me...08:24
rabidphagegarryfre: lemme see.08:25
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Dyegovdon't know what happens, ubuntu doesn't like me Madpilot T_T08:25
ahxcjbhi, I am suffering from regular reboots at the exact time of day - every day08:25
ahxcjbcan anyone offer anything I should check?08:26
MadpilotDyegov, you're in a regular terminal when you cut & paste that?08:26
ahxcjbcron.daily has nothing irregular08:26
rabidphagegarryfre: it's not there.. google didn't help.. thats why i came here... lemme give your exact query a shot...08:26
KenSentMe!tell xonic about xgl08:26
KenSentMexonic: maybe that helps you08:26
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nelisaMadpilot, do I restart after that?08:27
alexi5are there any free java j2ee applications servers available for ubuntu08:27
thomasMhey crimsun_ ?08:27
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nelisaalex15, I would suppouse you can use Geronimo08:27
ahxcjbroot@solo:/var/log# cat syslog.0 | grep restart08:27
ahxcjbJun 11 07:36:14 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart.08:27
ahxcjbJun 12 07:02:11 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart.08:27
ahxcjb^^ why is this happening..please?08:28
crimsun_thomasM: (that wouldn't have triggered my nick complete because it's not at the beginning of the line)08:28
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ahxcjbJun 10 07:35:14 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart.08:28
ahxcjbcompletely regular..08:28
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ahxcjbhelp :(08:28
DyegovMadpilot, I used the terminal that is in Aplications - Accesories - Terminal08:28
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MenZa;)08:29
ahxcjbheh08:29
ahxcjb2 pastes isnt flooding ;)08:29
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ahxcjboh, heh re time..08:29
ahxcjb;p08:29
Madpilotahxcjb, that's very close to flooding...08:29
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MenZaNo, I was referring to the reboot.08:29
MenZa;)08:29
ahxcjbMadpilot: well, when I was an OP on qnet, it was 6 or more. heh08:29
ahxcjbMenZa: yes :(08:29
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thomasMcrimsun_ okay there we go... i have issues with that version you had me try.08:29
ahxcjbany ideas?08:29
MadpilotDyegov, that should be working then...08:29
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Madpilotahxcjb, 3 or 4 lines max here, usually08:29
MenZaahxcjb: not a clue :\08:29
thomasMcrimsun_ gdm would try to start, but always crashed.08:29
DyegovMadpilot, isn't there any other way to do that?08:30
Dyegovanother guide maybe?08:30
ahxcjbit's so frustrating..08:30
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ahxcjbexact same time..every day..08:30
Amaranthahxcjb: I've got those same three lines (three syslogd restarts)08:30
nelisalooks like I would need to do the reinstall ritual for ubuntu once more time08:30
ahxcjbAmaranth: really?08:30
crimsun_thomasM: which driver?08:30
thomasMcrimsun_ replacing X with a link to /usr/bin/Xgl did not work for me.08:30
ahxcjbcould you paste them to me in a query window?08:30
MadpilotDyegov, no idea, I've never had a problem08:30
thomasMcrimsun_ fglrx, which i have installed and working.08:30
FlannelthomasM: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL support08:30
DyegovT_T08:30
thomasMFlannel thanks, but thats quite inactive in there.08:30
ahxcjbAmaranth: am I reading the log wrongly?08:30
crimsun_thomasM: I'm pretty sure fglrx needs additional options in xorg.conf for that.08:30
ahxcjbdoes that imply a *reboot*08:31
nelisadang, thats getting old, first time dapper let me down starring at a blank monitor and now this totally strange root issue08:31
FlannelthomasM: right, so take crimsun_ with you.08:31
Amaranthahxcjb: most likely08:31
ahxcjbor just a syslogd *restart*.. ?08:31
Amaranthahxcjb: it's syslogd restarting08:31
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alexi5has anyone here ever used jboss on ubuntu08:31
MadpilotDyegov, well, I should say I've never had the same problem you're having :) I"ve just had different ones...08:31
Amaranthahxcjb: no problems08:31
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ahxcjbAmaranth: as a result of a reboot..or just naturally restarting?08:31
Amaranthahxcjb: I dunno.08:31
ahxcjbkk08:31
ahxcjbmy machine is miles away..08:31
Amaranthahxcjb: But I've never had any problems related to it.08:31
Flashq001has anyone used the wireless if so How do activate it?08:31
ahxcjbit might be it suffered a power failure..08:31
Amaranthahxcjb: no sudden reboots or anything08:31
ahxcjbFlashq001: yes..ubuntuguide.org has great info on this08:32
thomasMcrimsun_ i have fglrx running fine, xorg.conf is set up to use fglrx, and it is.08:32
ahxcjbAmaranth: none..08:32
Flashq001thanks08:32
DyegovBut I've seen many people with this same problem Madpilot08:32
Amaranth!ubuntuguide08:32
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ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is a bad outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com08:32
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Madpilotnelisa, the disabling root stuff in the RootSudo wiki page didn't work...08:32
Dyegovand I've unistalled my windows T_T08:32
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ahxcjbheh08:32
ahxcjbrung home..power cut08:33
ahxcjbffs ;)08:33
MadpilotDyegov, what graphics card do you have?08:33
ahxcjbhehe08:33
blaze^^how can i remove "Enemy Teritory" from ubuntu :) ?08:33
ahxcjbcheers chaps!08:33
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DyegovNvidia08:33
AmaranthDyegov: what's the problem?08:33
DyegovI dont remember wich one08:33
MadpilotAmaranth, he's got resolution issues08:33
Amaranth!fixres08:33
ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:33
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Amaranththat doesn't help>08:33
Amaranth?08:33
blaze^^how can i remove "Enemy Teritory" from ubuntu :) ?08:33
rabidphagecould someone help me configure my processor fan??08:33
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DyegovAmaranth, I can't change the resolution of my ubuntu 5.1008:33
Amaranthblaze^^: the same way you installed it, i guess08:33
Amaranthblaze^^: Manually.08:34
nelisaMadpilot, I still cannot update or change services08:34
Madpilotnelisa, in a terminal, type 'groups'08:34
DyegovAmaranth, my resolution is 640 X 480 and I can't change it08:34
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Madpilotnelisa, is "admin" listed there? (not 'adm' but 'admin')08:35
AmaranthDyegov: did you follow that guide?08:35
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nelisano, just adm08:35
RamiKassabhey guys, I'm trying to get sshfs setup so that I can mount a remote ssh server as a drive in Ubuntu but when I run sshfs it says "fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied" but I made sure to add my username to the fuse group, any ideas as to why permission would still be denied to me?08:35
Madpilotnelisa, do this while you're logged in as yourself, not root08:35
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DyegovI could't it fails and Madpilot says I was doing it Ok08:35
RamiKassabif I run the same sshfs command in sudo it works08:35
nelisaok08:35
nelisashoot08:35
mardihi, what do i need to get to 'compile' things?08:35
RamiKassabbut then I can't access the damn mount because I don't have permission to access a root created mnt08:35
AmaranthDyegov: fails where?08:35
Madpilotnelisa, sorry, I meant 'run the groups command' as yourself, not as root08:36
AmaranthRamiKassab: you have to add yourself to the fuse group, i think08:36
AmaranthRamiKassab: sudo adduser <user> fuse08:36
Dyegovwhen I copy "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom" Amaranth08:36
AmaranthRamiKassab: then logout and back in08:36
Madpilotnelisa, did you do an expert install or a regular install of Ubuntu?08:36
nelisaexpert08:36
AmaranthDyegov: Skip that part.08:36
RamiKassabAmaranth: I did that08:36
RamiKassabAmaranth: ah, ok I gotta log out08:36
nelisaI did run that as me08:36
RamiKassabAmaranth: didn't do that :)08:36
Madpilotnelisa, expert install buggers things up :(08:36
DyegovOK I'll try08:36
RamiKassabAmaranth: let me try that, thanks for the help brp08:36
RamiKassabbro08:36
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Madpilotubotu, tell nelisa about expert08:36
mardino one knows what i need to get in synaptic to compile source?08:36
AmaranthDyegov: skip the the ddcprobe part08:37
Madpilotnelisa, it's fixable, though. See the PM the bot just sent you08:37
nelisatheres my username adm dialup cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner08:37
DyegovAmaranth, what's that?08:37
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AmaranthDyegov: the Undetected Monitor Specs section08:37
polpakmardi: build-essential08:37
Madpilotnelisa, yeah. Reboot, get to the recovery console via grub, and do the commands the bot just sent you08:37
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mardipolpak: thanks!08:38
DyegovAmaranth, I'm not doing that one, I'm doing the one before that one08:38
nelisaMadpilot, I guess this one is hosed now, you told me first to disable root08:38
AmaranthDyegov: I know, I'm saying skip to that one.08:38
Madpilotnelisa, yeah, but the recovery console will still work08:38
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DyegovAmaranth, So, I start with Undetected Monitor Specs?08:38
Madpilotnelisa, is this Ubuntu 6.06, the lastest release?08:38
AmaranthDyegov: yeah08:38
locke_well i got an nvidia card08:38
DyegovOk08:38
DyegovI'll try08:38
locke_geforce 2 mx i think08:38
locke_0000:00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 420 ]  (rev a3)08:39
locke_thats it08:39
rabidphageif the fan can't be configured, at least somebody tell me why.. this ignoring is sufforcating:(08:39
locke_so shouldnt have any problems with acceleration now right? hehe08:39
polpaklocke_: in a terminal type glxinfo | grep direct08:40
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locke_polpak, no not yet08:40
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locke_im updating to 6.06 right now08:40
locke_i had to reinstall from 5.1008:40
polpaklocke_: oh, ok08:40
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locke_and i understand xorg 7 isnt included till 6.06?08:40
RamiKassabAmaranth: ok, really quickly, do you know how to remove a mount through sshfs?08:41
locke_as soon as nickrud determined my voodoo3 wasnt gonna work i called up a buddy with an nvidia card and gave him some weed for it hehe08:41
RamiKassabAmaranth: so I can remove the mount I created as root using sudo08:41
locke_along with 512mb sdram08:41
Amaranthfusermount -u08:41
locke_i had 192 before08:41
nelisaMadpilot, that update hosed my working 5.10 setup08:42
Amaranthlocke_: Please don't discuss such things here.08:42
RamiKassabAmaranth: kick ass, thanks again brother08:42
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nelisalead me to a blank screen that I couldn't work out08:42
Madpilotrabidphage, do you really want all 805 other people in the channel to say "I don't know" to you? :)08:42
locke_well anyways im hoping the 420mx wont end up not working08:42
polpakAmaranth: it's legal in a number of countries....08:42
locke_its legal here08:42
locke_im in alaska08:42
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Amaranthpolpak: This is a family friendly channel.08:42
Meek-its not legal in alaska ;p08:42
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Madpilotnelisa, my dist-upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 forced me to re-install too... :|08:43
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locke_yes it is08:43
rabidphageMadpilot: Whew... that was refreshing :)08:43
oraleHi! I installed mozilla-acroread from synaptic, but it does not appear on the firefox plugins. Do I have to install anything else?08:43
Meek-maybe for medicinal08:43
locke_its legal to have up to 4oz or 4 plants in your home08:43
Netcadsquid is running on my system , how i can check that access.log ?08:43
alexi5how do i install java on ubuntu08:43
TigerWolfany reason why a computer would accept connections over crossover cable but refuses when on LAN on the router? - ubuntu seems to be blocking me from accessing this other computer08:43
Madpilotlocke_, regardless, it's offtopic here. #ubuntu-offtopic to continue, please08:43
locke_for personal use, as long as you dont bring it out of the house or have it in more than one bag08:43
Netcad i want to see the reesuests going outside08:43
polpak!tell alexi5 about java08:43
RamiKassabAmaranth: ok so it still isn't working?08:43
locke_anyways you think 6.06 will support my card?08:43
polpaklocke_: yes08:43
RamiKassabAmaranth: I don't get the permission denied error anymore08:44
RamiKassabAmaranth: but when I cd into the mount, I can list or see anything08:44
nelisalet me try to do what bot said, if it works ok, if not I'm going to sleep anyway08:44
nelisathanks08:44
AmaranthRamiKassab: Sounds like it mounted as root again08:44
RamiKassabAmaranth: shouldn't the mount be treated like just another directory?08:44
AmaranthRamiKassab: I just did some random hackery with mknod to make it work08:44
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Ademanwhat's the name of the devel library for openAL?08:44
AmaranthRamiKassab: Can't remember what08:44
DyegovAmaranth, how do I save the file? it says ^0 Save , and I dont know what's that08:44
AmaranthDyegov: Ctrl-O08:44
pierre-!pppoe08:44
ubotuit has been said that pppoe is Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE08:44
AmaranthAdeman: libopenal-dev08:45
Dyegovthax08:45
dominicanoI have only one partition, "hda2"  i wish change the name just to "hda"08:45
RamiKassabAmaranth: no it's not mounted as root, I remove sudo and ran "sshfs user@domain.com:/public_html ~/servers/domain"08:45
RamiKassabAmaranth: isn't that the correct syntax?08:45
polpakdominicano: you can't. It'd be hda1 at the very least08:45
AmaranthRamiKassab: Looks right.08:45
Madpilotdominicano, I doubt you can. the partition names are invented by the system.08:45
polpakdominicano: hda is the drive08:45
AmaranthRamiKassab: But like I said, I did some random stuff and made it work once.08:46
AmaranthRamiKassab: Then went back to gnome-vfs08:46
AdemanAmaranth: well, i mean the actual name of the file... like libopenal.a or something,   i cant figure out what gcc's library option should be,  -lAL didnt work  i didnt try -lopenAL yet08:46
dominicanopolpak, you are right08:46
RamiKassabAmaranth: and I ran "sudo modprobe fuse" before hand to make sure the module was loaded08:46
RamiKassabAmaranth: does gnome-vfs accomplish the same thing?08:46
dominicanopolok, i wsh change this to hda108:46
AmaranthRamiKassab: More or less.08:46
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AmaranthRamiKassab: If you use GNOME just about every GNOME app can access it.08:46
RamiKassabAmaranth: if I wanted to access the mounts with a development IDE, say bluefish, would I be able to08:47
AmaranthRamiKassab: Including using nautilus to browse/copy/etc and gedit to edit things.08:47
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dominicanoI have only one partition, "hda2"  i wish change the name just to "hda1" how?08:47
polpakdominicano: well you must have more than one partition, cause the numbering is automatic08:47
RamiKassabAmaranth: ok what about vim within a terminal?08:47
AmaranthRamiKassab: bluefish uses gnome-vfs so yeah08:47
AmaranthRamiKassab: no vim08:47
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RamiKassabAmaranth: gvim?08:47
Amaranthprobably not08:47
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matthewjameswhats the command to view net info, ip config?08:47
polpakmatthewjames: ifconfig ?08:48
RamiKassabAmaranth: wait is gnome-vfs loaded with bluefish by default?08:48
matthewjameskk, ty08:48
AmaranthRamiKassab: yeah08:48
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AmaranthRamiKassab: and vim-gnome uses gnome-vfs too08:48
oraleHi! I installed mozilla-acroread from synaptic, but it does not appear on the firefox plugins. Do I have to install anything else?08:48
AmaranthRamiKassab: So I guess it would work08:48
RamiKassabAmaranth: how do I use gnome-vfs then?08:48
RamiKassabAmaranth: to mount a remote ssh drive08:48
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AmaranthRamiKassab: Places->Connect to Server08:48
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RamiKassabAmaranth: ah lol, I shoulda known that :)08:49
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emiliouhi08:49
emilioui need help08:49
KenSentMe!justask08:49
ubotu- Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.08:49
emiliouPCMCIA services --> failde at boot08:49
emilioufaild*08:49
emiliou(sorry but i am frenvh)08:49
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DyegovAmaranth, thanx a lot, it worked!!!!!!08:50
AmaranthDyegov: No problem, happy to help.08:50
DyegovI gtg, bye bye08:50
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Hattoriwho can say me what the /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom file have to include under [servers]  if i don't want to use XGL?08:51
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emiliouwhat's PCMCIA ?08:52
locke_laptop cards08:52
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whitynzused for wireless08:53
nelisaMadpilot, thanks, you got me worked out08:53
locke_or anything else you want to install on a laptop08:53
emiliouis it essential?08:53
locke_not unless you have a laptop08:53
emiliouok08:53
locke_why cause it failed on bootup?08:53
nelisanow nelisa is admin and can update just fine08:53
emiliouthks08:53
Madpilotnelisa, the recovery console thing worked?08:53
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Hattorihey who can look at /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom and say me what you have under "[servers] "?08:54
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nelisaso is it dapper ready for prime time now, basically it nevers figured out my display08:54
nelisaMAdpilot, yes08:54
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nelisaMadpilot, yes08:54
Madpilotnelisa, cool08:54
nelisathat bot is genius hehe08:54
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nelisamay the boot know how tell ubuntu to use the whole space avilable inmy laptop lcd?08:55
Hattoriwho can look at /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom and say me what you have under "[servers] "?08:55
emiliouHattori : nothing under servers ... : /08:55
Hattorik08:55
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Madpilotnelisa, have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto - it might help08:56
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Geoffrey2orale, Firefox does not display a list of plugins, under the Tools menu there's an option to see installed Extensions, which are completely different than plugins08:56
nelisaok, will do, tomorrow, time to get some sleep, again thanks08:56
nelisabye08:56
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Belutzanyone knows where i could get bmp-docklet ?08:57
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bretthey does anyone know if i need gnome with xubuntu08:58
pradeephello !08:58
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Belutzbrett: install ubuntu-desktop08:58
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brettyeha did that from breezy now i run dapper08:59
brettthen installed xubuntu08:59
brettfrom a upgrade08:59
Flannelbrett: no, you don't need gnome for xubuntu, although some gnome libraries are.08:59
Madpilotbrett, xubuntu uses some of the gtk libraries, but it doesn't need Gnome installed08:59
KenSentMeI see there is an update for Ekiga from 2.0.1 to 2.0.2. How do i know if it will be updated for dapper?09:00
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MadpilotKenSentMe, unless it's a security update, it isn't likely to be09:00
KenSentMeMadpilot: but who desides if it is going to be updated?09:01
bretti just want to know so i can save disk space that's it09:01
bretti only got a 40gb hd09:01
MadpilotKenSentMe, the Ubuntu developers & maintainers09:02
brettok so how do i go about removing it without killing my system09:02
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Flannelbrett: you're using synaptic?09:02
RamiKassabAmaranth: when I mount a remote drive with gnome-vfs, is it saved next time I reboot?09:02
bretti looked on the forums but the one forum i saw got rid of everything09:02
AmaranthRamiKassab: yep09:02
RamiKassabAmaranth: I like09:02
brettat the moment yeah synaptic09:02
Flannelbrett: you can go around marking things for removal, if something is required by xubuntu, it'll say tat it requires xubuntu desktop to be uninstalled09:02
RamiKassabAmaranth: thanks for the help again bro09:02
Flannelbrett: and then you know that that is required by xubuntu09:02
AmaranthRamiKassab: no problem09:02
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brettok is there a way to back up my system in case it takes everything off09:03
bretti got the back up app from automatix09:03
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brettbut i don't know really how to use09:04
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garlaxelHi guys, I have a PII 266 40 Gig HDD TNT2 Vid card Older make of CD rom (1998), I have tried XUbuntu and Ubuntu ( dapper) both boot from CD and lock the machine up when mounting root file system. Any ideas?09:05
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brosiozi've download apt-get source openssh now how can i apply the pathc inside openssh_4.2p1-7ubuntu3.diff.gz ?09:05
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brettok im gonna try it thanx09:06
Flannelbrett: you'd have to ask the automatix people, ubuntu doesn't recommend automatix, and I personally have no idea what it installs, let alone how ot use it.  #automatix09:06
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Flannelgarlaxel: how much RAM?09:06
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Flashq001where are the repositories for all ubuntu's server that has all the programs for security, network security, network managment, and anything and everything to do with network, and security?09:07
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Unclean1Could anyone tell me why, when I take a screenshot, I get : Value for PNG text chunk CREATOR cannot be converted to ISO-8859-1 encoding??09:08
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devin_hi09:08
devin_i just installed ubuntu dapper09:08
devin_on my laptop09:09
Unclean1same here :)09:09
devin_and i can't get the desktop to display the native resolution09:09
devin_it only gives me 4:3 aspect ratio choices09:09
boha_Unclean1,  po screenshot press print screen button09:09
boha_for*09:09
thomasM!resfix09:09
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ubotuthomasM: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:09
devin_any idea how i would go about changing that?09:09
thomasM!fixres09:09
Unclean1yeah, I get that error09:09
Flannel!fixres09:09
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ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:09
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thomasMthere you go fix ur resolution.09:10
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Unclean1boha : It auto calls that "take screenshot" app, which is what's crashing09:10
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bretthey tried looking at gnome in synaptic but nothing really marked09:10
Sp4rKyhi09:10
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brettand i don't want to remove anything i might need09:11
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Sp4rKyhow can i guess the version of gcc used to compil my kernel ???09:11
crimsun_Sp4rKy: don't guess. Look at /proc/version .09:11
Sp4rKythx :)09:12
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brettis there anyway to install xubuntu from an iso on the hd09:13
garlaxelFlannel I tried 256 MB and 320.09:14
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KenSentMeI'm using irssi as chat client and want to join the #ekiga channel on irc.gnome.org, but when i do /server gnome.org it kicks me from freenode. And when i reconnect to freenode i'm in the Ekiga channel on freenode and not gnome. How can i make sure i'm in the right channel on the right server in irssi?09:14
KenSentMe*irc.gnome.org09:14
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RancidLMany one know whats the diffrent between openvpn and pptp vpn?09:15
Flashq001where are the repositories for all ubuntu's server that has all the programs for security, network security, network managment, and anything and everything to do with network, and security?09:15
Phlostenhowdy all09:15
Phlosteni am doing a Ubuntu presentation tomorrow but am having an issue that when I am running my monitor through the projector is forces me to 640x480 resolution, anyone know how to fix this?09:16
Unclean1Flashq001 : have you enabled the univere and multiverse repos?09:17
Unclean1*universe09:17
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Flashq001How do you do that universe and multiverse?09:17
Unclean1Flashq001 : hmm ... You edit /etc/apt/sources.list (its pretty well documented)09:18
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Unclean1Flashq001 : I wanted to install Ettercap, had to do that, click Add/Remove progs, then advanced, and it was in there09:19
Flashq001Unclean1: ok thanks09:19
KenSentMe!tell Flashq001 about sources09:19
williswatsonddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd09:19
williswatsond09:19
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SurfnKidHow do I reconfigure the xserver under xubuntu09:19
williswatsond09:19
williswatsondddddddddddddd09:19
KenSentMewilliswatson: don't do that09:19
williswatsonKenSentMe sorry09:19
SurfnKidif its dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg under gnome is it different under Ubuntu09:19
Unclean1anyways, need to goto work, bye all!09:20
williswatsonkeybroad have some problem09:20
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hegemonwhat do i need to watch dvds with VLC?09:20
xxozxxi want to install jdk on breezy, can someone help?09:20
Seveas!java09:20
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs09:20
hegemonim used to setting up xine for this, is VLC different? do i just need the deCSS?09:21
xxozxx!javadebs?09:21
ubotuIn Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse09:21
xxozxxwhats that?09:21
SurfnKidI guess its the same09:21
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hegemonwhat do i need to watch dvds with VLC?09:22
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Ademanhow come with SDL i can only create a surface with 24 bits color 24 bits depth? no 32 each... when under windows i could do so (32 bit color 32 bit depth)09:22
SurfnKidMadpilot: can i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure the xfce settings or doesnt make a difference which VM i use09:22
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SurfnKidthat question was for anyone else too09:22
SurfnKid:)09:22
apokryphoshegemon: FAQ09:22
thomasMademan 32bit is not actually 32 bits09:23
MadpilotSurfnKid, they all use Xorg underneath, don't think it matters which DE/WM you've got09:23
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thomasMits 24 bits with overhead.09:23
polpakSurfnKid: it doesn't matter, that just reconfigs xorg, not your DE/WM09:23
Geoffrey2if I am using gnome in ubuntu, I am not using X, right?09:23
SurfnKidMadpilot: hehe ok, im trying it now, looks right09:23
polpakGeoffrey2: wrong09:23
thomasMgnome runs on top of X.09:23
SurfnKidcool09:23
SurfnKidand xfce and kde09:23
thomasMX any graphical.09:23
MadpilotGeoffrey2, all the graphical enviroments use X09:23
xxozxxim looking for j2re in synaptic for breezy, i dont see it09:23
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Madpilotxxozxx, that's because it doesn't exist09:23
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apokryphosxxozxx: FAQ09:23
SurfnKidxubuntu sure is lighter09:24
AdemanthomasM: what do you mean?09:24
Madpilotapokryphos, pointing out that people are asking a FAQ is non-helpful...09:24
xxozxxhow do i get to FAQ?09:24
Geoffrey2ah, ok.....obviously I am quite new to Linux....09:24
polpakxxozxx: read the restricted formats wiki09:24
SurfnKidfor this old clunker09:24
polpak!tell xxozxx about java09:24
SurfnKid!asx09:24
ubotuSurfnKid: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:24
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thomasMademan, 32bit colour is not actually 32bits of colour, its 24bits of colour plus overhead.09:24
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apokryphosMadpilot: pointing out that the answer is in the FAQ is09:25
Ademanwhat do you mean plus overhead?09:25
apokryphoswhich is what I mean09:25
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thomasM24bit colour in linux is actually 24 bits of colour, while in windows 32bits of colour is 24bits of colour with overhead.09:25
thomasMbits that don't actually define colour is overhead09:25
Madpilotapokryphos, not if you don't link to the FAQ it isn't. (Which FAQ, anyway?)09:25
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boha_is there a shortcut for terminal?09:25
Ademanwhat do you mean overhead though?09:25
polpakboha_: you can make one09:25
apokryphosMadpilot: it should be common-practice to read the /topic before you talk/once-you-enter the channel09:25
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boha_how?09:25
polpakAdeman: things like alpha, etc09:25
thomasM24 bits of colour is equivalent to 32bits of colour in windows all you need to know.09:26
Madpilotapokryphos, nobody reads the /topic, ever :)09:26
SurfnKidum. if i hit CTRL ALT BACKSP  while im on tty1 will it drop me?09:26
apokryphosMadpilot: wrong :)09:26
xxozxxHow do i get to FAQ, and how can i just set my sources for multiverse?09:26
polpakSurfnKid: no09:26
apokryphosxxozxx: FAQ is in /topic09:26
SurfnKidwikid09:26
polpakSurfnKid: that only works for X server09:26
brosiozanyone that have dapper609:26
Ademanpolpak: well exactly, thats the point, I'm trying to create a surface with 8 bits red 8 bits green 8 bits blue 8 bits alpha...09:26
SurfnKidpegfekt09:26
Madpilotxxozxx, check your PM, you got one w/ Java info09:26
brosiozcould do09:26
brosiozcat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep PermitRootLogin09:26
KenSentMeboha_: go to System>Preferences>Shortcuts09:26
Madpilotubotu, tell xxozxx about multiverse09:26
brosiozanyone that have dapper6 could check this cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep PermitRootLogin if u have yes or not ?09:27
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polpakAdeman: using what library?09:27
KenSentMeboha_: or something like that (i'm on a dutch ubuntu)09:27
polpakAdeman: and what programming language?09:27
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AdemanSDL, c/c+09:27
Ademan+09:27
SurfnKidpolpak: the liberty of not having to restart to apply settings, uff better :)09:27
Ademanwell, SDL+openGL09:27
bretthey anyone know if i can remove gnome through apt-get if i got xfce installed09:27
polpakAdeman: should work fine..09:27
SurfnKidbrett: i think you can, im on xfce now09:27
Ademanpolpak: I know, it used to under windows... could it be something with my video driver? i have the proprietary nvidia driver...09:28
SurfnKidbrett: i just learned you can have all of them if you want09:28
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Madpilotbrosioz, I get "cat: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory" - ssh server is never installed by default...09:28
polpakAdeman: are you sure you have your driver installed right?09:28
brosiozobviusly if u have it :D09:28
Ademanpolpak: everything else seems to work fine09:28
polpakAdeman: and why do you think that it's not working?09:28
KenSentMebrosioz: i got yes09:28
polpakAdeman: or rather what's not working about it?09:28
KenSentMebrosioz: and just install ssh09:29
SurfnKidbrb reboot09:29
Ademanpolpak: SDL_SetVideoMode returns NULL instead of a pointer to a valid surface (indicating failure)09:29
webmindwhy did a firefox update remove/made disapear all my extensions ?09:29
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Ademani don't know if SDL has a more descriptive GetLastError type function09:29
neutrinomasswebmind: An update to 1.5.0.4 ?09:30
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DarkMageZdoes anyone happen to know of any 3'rd party repo's which have the latest gstreamer packages? or even a repo wit cvs builds?09:30
webmindneutrinomass, the latest dapper update09:30
polpakAdeman: dunno  you should probably ask in the #sdl channel09:30
kholerabbiHey, previously I added some windows NTFS partitions by changing the fstab textfile.. However I just enabled an NTFS partition using System > Administration > Disks... It seems to have worked - the files can be viewed in nautilus if it is opened with gksudo, however a normal user doesn't have permissions to access this partition .. What's the best way to change the permissions?????? thanks09:30
webmindneutrinomass, yes09:30
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unix_infidelAnyone know a good how-to on getting started with VPN on both windows and linux and with openvpn?09:32
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neutrinomasswebmind: There's an open bug about this somewhere, give me a moment ...09:33
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Ademanturns out it was tripping up on the 32 bits of depth i was requesting, 24 works fine though, and 32 bits depth is really excessive anyways, so I dont really care09:34
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neutrinomasswebmind: Did you restart firefox after updating ?09:35
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Geoffrey2what would be the likely effect of removing ubuntu-desktop?09:36
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MadpilotGeoffrey2, not much09:36
unix_infidelremoving ubuntu-desktop09:36
polpakGeoffrey2: nothing.. it's just a meta package09:36
apokryphosGeoffrey2: check the FAQ09:36
neutrinomassGeoffrey2: pretty much none ...09:36
ubehey ladies09:37
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keleusgot a wierd question09:37
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keleusi just made an unpriveledged user that i want something to run as (and launching it would be done with a script)09:38
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keleusi want it to switch to the user using su, but i don't want a password prompt (i want it to work without password, basically as its an unpriveledged user and i want any user to be able to launch this script)09:38
unix_infidelAnyone know a good how-to on getting started with VPN on both windows and linux and with openvpn?09:38
Anchoito21anyone knows to use rdesktop09:38
webmindneutrinomass, yes09:38
webmindneutrinomass, that's when I lost them09:38
Hattoriif anybody want to give a try: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19469509:39
Hattorithanks09:39
neutrinomasswebmind: Ok, then it's bug 49219. Feel free to mark it major, since it results in data loss.09:39
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keleuscan i chance the users password to nothing, and still allow logins? (the accounts shell is the same as user sshd (/bin/false i think)09:39
keleusand if i do this, would this work:09:40
keleussu - TESTUSER -c nohup TESTCOMMAND&09:40
webmindneutrinomass, nope my bookmarks are still there09:41
xpilkeleus: passwd -d testuser09:41
webmindneutrinomass, extensions are gone though09:41
xpilkeleus: this will delete password for this user09:41
keleuswill the user still log in?09:41
polpakkeleus: you can use sudo instead of su09:41
keleuspolpak: not interested in using sudo for this09:41
polpakkeleus: not really sure I understand what you're trying to do09:42
keleusif any user runs /usr/share/TESTSCRIPT09:42
keleusthe command TESTCOMMAND would be run as TESTUSER09:42
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keleuswho has no password, no system priveledges, and no shell.09:42
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keleusbasically i want to run some daemon with no risk to my user(s) files09:43
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keleushmm09:44
keleusseems to not work properly09:44
ne0hdoes anyone know where i can get patches for my digital media card reader, and for my wifi card09:44
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keleusis there a way to launch something and have it automatically switch to a specific UID?09:44
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hyphenatedkeleus: not for a script, no09:44
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ne0hi need a patch for my wireless card09:45
keleushyphenated: well, its a program being launched by a script09:45
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hyphenatedkeleus: is it a system program or one written by you?09:46
keleushyphenated: well, neither, its a downloaded binary09:46
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hyphenatedok. change the owner to testuser using 'chown'09:47
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Elbrujoplease, i have a problem09:47
hyphenatedthen make it 'setuid' using chmod u+s09:47
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Hattoriwhy when i boot i have to login in dos like mode and run "startx" to get gdm to start? why it doesn't start automatically?09:47
ubedoes anyone have a pentium 4?09:47
hyphenatedyou'll probably have to run both commands as root since you can't log in as that user09:47
Anchoito21anyone can help me?09:48
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ubeI would like to know how hot your cpu runs09:48
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[D-Tail] Hello all! :-)09:48
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keleushyphenated: thanks!09:48
ubemy cpu is 59 Celsius09:48
[D-Tail] I've got a question regarding fglrx on the new Dapper09:48
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Elbrujoi try to reestart GDM and it retourn: /etc/X11/X is not executable09:48
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[D-Tail] I recently upgraded from breezy to dapper, and as expected, fglrx/3D acceleration did not work anymore09:48
hyphenatedkeleus: you pretty much never want to do that chmod u+s thing for programs owned by root, because then it will run with root privileges :-)09:48
keleushyphenated: heh09:49
[D-Tail] previously, I had version 8.22.5, but what repository do I need to add in order to get the new xorg-driver-fglrx ?09:49
hyphenatedkeleus: and it only works for binaries. you can't make a script "setuid"09:49
Hattoriwhy when i boot i have to login in dos like mode and run "startx" to get gdm to start? why it doesn't start automatically?09:49
apokryphosHattori: if you sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart does it work?09:49
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haydeni get this error when i try to upgrade or install anything via apt-get: Segmentation faulty tree... 50%09:50
Hattoriapokryphos: but i want it starts automatically at boot time, without i write "startx"09:50
Elbrujoplease someone help me09:50
fyrestrtris there a openvpn gui client available in the repos?09:50
apokryphosHattori: yes...... instead of typing startx, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart next time.09:50
drumline_Elbrujo: don't ask for help...  just ask what you want to ask.. .09:50
keleushyphenated: how do i find out the full path that bash is resolving from PATH?09:50
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Hattoriapokryphos: command not found =(09:51
apokryphoskeleus: echo $PATH09:51
apokryphosHattori: you must've not typed it correctly09:51
keleusapokryphos: for the specific command.09:51
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fyrestrtrkeleus: which ls09:51
Frogzoo!tell [D-Tail]  about fglrx09:51
YannigHello everybody09:51
keleusfyrestrtr: thanks09:51
fyrestrtrkeleus: which followed by the command name09:51
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YannigDo someone remember where I can set the default first day of the week?09:51
YannigI thought it was in gnome-panel but I cannot find it :(09:51
Elbrujoi try to reestart GDM and it retourn: /etc/X11/X is not executable09:51
[D-Tail] Frogzoo: thanks, but I already followed the fglrx install guide.... so that was a no-go for me :-(09:52
Elbrujoim try to change to Xgl09:52
Hattoriapokryphos: sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found09:52
apokryphosHattori: how did you install09:52
chavoHattori, on the forum post you said you remover xserver-xorg it prob removed gdm also09:52
Anchoito21hello?09:52
Elbrujobut it don't start09:52
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Anchoito21anyone can help me about rdesktop09:52
Hattorichavo: i reinstalled it after it09:52
chavoHattori, just do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:52
apokryphosHattori: reinstall ubuntu-desktop09:52
Hattorik09:52
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elephanthunter!mbr09:53
ubotumbr is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows09:53
darrenrxmhello everyone09:53
apokryphoshi09:53
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pppoe_dudehow can i increase thebass in gnome/rhythmbox? in kde its in amarok09:53
hyphenatedkeleus: "which appname" will tell you what it's trying to run when you execute "appname"09:53
Kiko0123Hello, I just installed the new Windows Vista Beta 2 and i'm trying to restore my GRUB can anyone help please?09:53
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Elbrujohey somebody help me:09:53
Elbrujohey somebody help me:09:53
apokryphosKiko0123: /msg ubotu grub09:53
Elbrujoi try to reestart GDM and it retourn: /etc/X11/X is not executable09:53
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keleushyphenated: now i need to get the program to talk to /home/TESTUSER and not the home dir of whoever launched it09:54
chavotell Kiko0123  about mbr09:54
apokryphosElbrujo: well, tell us what you did09:54
KenSentMe!tell Elbrujo about xgl09:54
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nameless14My server has eaten up all its ram almost. Most of it is just cached. Can someone tell me how to make it dump the cache with out rebooting.09:54
Elbrujoim try to change to Xgl09:54
hyphenatedhayden: bizarre. want to try something to fix it? cd /var/cache/apt; sudo mv pkgcache.bin pkgcache.bin.broken; sudo apt-get update09:54
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apokryphosElbrujo: are you following the guide?09:54
keleushow do i find out what user a PID is running under?09:54
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keleusi want to double check that i did it right09:54
Frogzoonameless14: this is usual - it's how linux works09:54
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hyphenatedkeleus: ps -fp pid09:55
haydenhyphenated, thanks09:55
Kiko0123apokryphos, i'm on that page, but i'm having problems can I PM you?09:55
nizis it possible to install ubuntu server on a p2 300 w/ 64mb ram? (my beater box, i seem to get kernel panics on install)09:55
Elbrujosudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xgl /etc/X11/X09:55
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nameless14Frogzoo, Im sure some of the stuff cached is old and not going to need to be put in cache again. Do you still think its a good idea to not worry about it?  The performance has been slightly less then a few days ago (its been up for a few days) but that could be I just have more stuff on it. I dont know09:55
keleushyphenated: ok, its running as the right user :) but again now to get it to work in a paticular directory... hmmm.09:56
topfsCould anyone point me to a WPA and Atheros Howto on Dapper Drake LTS?09:56
apokryphosKiko0123: if you like09:56
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Elbrujoto change to the Xgl09:56
Kiko0123it says "type $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install." how can i know where is my Ubuntu Root install ?09:56
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Elbrujoand it dosnt start09:56
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Frogzoonameless14: the kernel uses spare memory for buffer space - it's a performance benefit09:56
apokryphosKiko0123: are you in Ubuntu live now?09:56
Kiko0123yes09:56
apokryphosKiko0123: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l09:56
polpak!tell Elbrujo about XGL09:56
nameless14Frogzoo, ok, thanks.09:56
Kiko0123ok sec09:56
DarkMageZnameless14, if it needs the ram, it will start dumping stuff from the cache09:56
fyrestrtrnameless14: you actually *want* your server to use all of the memory. memory is faster than disk cache.09:57
polpak!xgl09:57
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:57
polpakwhere'd ubotu go?09:57
fyrestrtrubotu: botsnack09:57
ubotu:)09:57
polpakoh, just lagged. sorry09:57
fyrestrtrhe's here.09:57
haydenis there any easy way of converting a desktop system into a server, with no gui or programs wasting ram etc ?09:57
nameless14tyrestrte, even if the cached things are OLD and will never be cached again its best not to dump cache?09:57
apokryphoshayden: start removing some X, gtk libs, and it'll go09:58
Kiko0123apokryphos, http://pastebin.com/703946 here is it09:58
fyrestrtrhayden: just uninstall ubuntu-desktop -- I think that should do it.09:58
apokryphosfyrestrtr: no, it's just a metapackage.09:58
neutrinomasshayden: GUI programs waste RAM only when you're using them. Don't run X and you're not "wasting" RAM :)09:58
apokryphosunless you installed with aptitude, removing it won't do anything (see FAQ)09:58
fyrestrtrah yeh. I hate metapackages09:58
topfsCould anyone point me to a WPA and Atheros Howto on Dapper Drake LTS?09:58
Kiko0123apokryphos, my linux is on /dev/sdb2   *       21281       24391    24989107+  83  Linux09:59
apokryphosKiko0123: two hard-disks, Linux on the second?09:59
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Kiko0123yes09:59
elephanthunterWhat would be the advantage of using the dapper 6.06 dvd as opposed the cd? Is it just more packages?09:59
apokryphosKiko0123: yes, so root is hd1,109:59
Kiko0123the big hard disk got the ubuntu on09:59
haydenthanks all09:59
Kiko0123so i type grub-install /dev/hda1,1 ?09:59
anildigitalhow to unban from irc channel?09:59
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fyrestrtranildigital: ask the op?09:59
darrenrxmhas anyone lost 3d graphics from upgrading to dapper? I have a ati radeon 9600 and am afraid to upgrade.09:59
anildigitalwho is op?09:59
keleuser, why did this not work properly (groups did not change) "sudo chown TESTUSER:TESTUSER ./.TESTDIR"09:59
apokryphosKiko0123: I wouldn't do it that way. sudo /sbin/grub10:00
apokryphosanildigital: what's the problem?10:00
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fyrestrtrkandinski: TESTUSER != testuser10:00
Flashq001what would be good program for administration/management since I could not webmin in the repositories?10:00
DarkMageZdarrenrxm, yes they have, but they are nvidia users :)10:00
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anildigitali m not seeing messages in Ruby channel10:00
Frogzooelephanthunter: the dvd can also do upgrades as well10:00
hyphenatedkeleus: is 'TESTUSER' a valid group? (listed in /etc/group ) ?10:00
keleushyphenated: yea10:00
elephanthunterThanks Frogzoo10:00
anildigitalbut able to see messages from all in ubuntu channel10:01
drumline_nvidia = could offer better linux support10:01
apokryphosanildigital: this is not the place to take up problems in other channels, I'm afraid10:01
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keleushalf the files were the correct group, half were still my group (directory was copied from my home)10:01
hyphenatedkeleus: in capitals and everything?10:01
keleusyea10:01
darrenrxmthankyou for the answer DarkMageZ10:01
fyrestrtranildigital: ask in #freenode10:01
anildigitalok10:01
hyphenatedyou only changed the directory, not the files in the directory10:01
keleusOY im an idiot10:01
keleusthat directory is a symlink10:01
apokryphosKiko0123: pm me if you want and I'll walk you through it10:01
[D-Tail] um, can anyone help me with uninstalling my current fglrx? sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx doesn't work! :-(10:01
fyrestrtrkeleus: chown -r testuser:testuser10:01
keleusi should do it to the actual directory10:01
Kiko0123apokryphos, i pmed you10:02
topfsIs ubuntu and WPA a no go?10:02
apokryphosKiko0123: it's not getting through. I guess you're not registered?10:02
apokryphosKiko0123: /msg ubotu register10:02
keleusthat did the trick10:02
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Kiko0123ok sec10:02
keleusmy chown wasnt recursing symlinks10:02
fairyI tried following the Knome guide (to take kwin and run it under gnome)  I must of done something wrong and it failed.... now that I've tried changing things back, I'm still not getting a proper gnome environment on login, just a blank desktop with nothing running, no panels, no gnome-session, etc.10:02
Kiko0123here10:02
DarkMageZtopfs, it is possible10:02
fairyIs there any way to fix it?  It seems to have affected all user accounts as well.10:03
topfsDarkMageZ Because I have tried for 4 hours yesterday and couldn't get it to work?10:03
keleushyphenated: heh, basically im running a p2p client and i want it isolated from my user - just in case10:03
Flashq001Can someone tell me what would be good program for remote administration/management since I could not find webmin in the repositories?10:03
keleushyphenated: since it insists on making a directory in the home of whoever launched it, i just put a link there to where i want the files actually stored10:03
topfsDarkMageZ WPA Supplicant doesn't seem to work for me, get some fail message in boot up10:03
boha_!paste10:03
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .10:03
hyphenatedkeleus: uh.. fun fun.10:04
keleusand i dont paticularly feel like editing code (i can barely manage a proper hello world) to fix it10:04
[D-Tail] anyone available on the ATI/fglrx problem??10:04
DarkMageZtopfs, maybe if you directly ask in this channel, with a pastebin of the error message, someone could help10:04
anildigitalI am getting "#freenode-social Cannot send to channel" message in #freenode10:04
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keleusanildigital: you need to wait till someone (or the channel bot sees you waiting patiently enough) to give you voice10:05
Madpilotanildigital, try re-joining - you should be voiced automatically in #freenode10:05
keleusanildigital: you can still PM them10:05
DarkMageZ[D-Tail] , are u currently using the drivers?10:05
topfsDarkMageZ ok, is there a log of the bootup somewere or do I need to reboot to get that info?10:05
boha_how can i hide this warning -->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i1559110:05
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[D-Tail] DarkMageZ: no, I'm using ATI driver for the moment10:05
boha_if i press hide nothing happens10:05
fyrestrtrtopfs: /var/log/messages and dmesg can help you with bootup messages10:05
[D-Tail] DarkMageZ: but I couldn't manage to uninstall/reinstall fglrx ... and it seems the package is broken now10:06
keleushyphenated: is there a way to make it so that it wont even give that user a chance to authenticate on the terminals/GDM? i can log in as it, and it sends me the MOTD, and immediatly exits back to login, but i would rather have an error...10:07
[D-Tail] DarkMageZ: and when I type in a terminal 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' it tries to remove it from my system10:07
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[D-Tail] which fails horribly10:07
keleushyphenated: basically the ONLY way i want that user used is when run SUID by that binary10:07
DarkMageZ[D-Tail] , does it spit out any particular error mesaages/10:07
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[D-Tail] DarkMageZ: dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to10:08
[D-Tail]   when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx'10:08
keleushyphenated: and is there a way to run something with a paticular GID as well?10:08
hyphenatedkeleus: did you set a password for that user?10:08
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[D-Tail] and more of that... then an error code from post-removal script (2 )10:08
keleushyphenated: i ran "sudo chmod -d TESTUSER"10:08
Flashq001anyone know of a good program like webmin?  I could not find webmin in the repositories.10:08
keleusand it said password changed10:09
[D-Tail] and 'Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)'10:09
fairyI've figured out that gnome-session -is- starting... it's just taking it's sweet time (on the order of 3-5 minutes) to start10:09
hyphenatedkeleus: that makes no sense10:09
fairycan anyone help me fix that?10:09
DarkMageZ[D-Tail] , file a bug against the package, it should NOT be broken like that :)10:09
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[D-Tail] DarkMageZ: well, ok, but how will I be able to update to the latest fglrx? do you recommend the drivers from ati.com?10:10
[D-Tail] that is, manually installing it?10:10
keleushyphenated: somehow the program is knowing who launched it and when it edits the files in its work directory it changes their group to the launching users'10:10
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DarkMageZ[D-Tail] , the fglrx drivers and the drivers from ati are the same, just packaged differently10:10
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hyphenatedkeleus: so you want setgid too (set group id) ?10:10
keleusyea10:10
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hyphenatedkeleus: see if the man page for chmod tells you how ;-)10:11
[D-Tail] DarkMageZ: but re-installing won't work for the moment -- so what am I supposed to do now?10:11
keleushyphenated: it says "s" does UID or GID10:11
keleusbut its obviously only doing UID10:11
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DarkMageZ[D-Tail] , file the bug, and wait for the fix, use the ati drivers till a fix. or reinstall10:11
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hyphenatedkeleus: u+s.. guess what the u means, and guess what the s means ;-)10:11
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stephan__sup all10:11
Lebrujohow can i uninstall a pakage with apt?10:12
[D-Tail] it would be bad to forcefully remove those drivers, wouldn't it?10:12
apokryphosLebrujo: sudo apt-get remove <package>10:12
hyphenatedkeleus: then guess what would make it affect group instead of user10:12
topfsDarkMageZ fyrestrtr I could not find the specific error message and will try to reboot but I seem to get traffic to wifi0 but not to ath0 ? if this helps?10:12
[D-Tail] another thing: where to file that bug? ATI itself? the creator of the xorg-fglrx thing? Ubuntu people?10:12
keleusg+s?10:12
DarkMageZ[D-Tail] , ubuntu launchpad, against the package itsefl10:13
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topfsAlso it seems to be as "unkown" under network tools10:13
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hyphenatedkeleus: try it10:13
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keleusworked.10:13
keleusOne last thing:10:13
keleuscan i get the system to reject logins from that user?10:13
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b14ckum...how do i mount a usb flash?10:13
PuppiesOnAcidIs there anything cool Ubuntu-related to see in South Africa?10:13
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[D-Tail] I feel nooby now... where's launchpad?10:14
keleuslogging in as that user, (no password prompt, btw) prints the MOTD and then asks for login again...10:14
keleusBUT I would rather that not even happen10:14
fairyI tried following the Knome guide to install kwin, something about it failed and now it's taking 4-5 minutes for gnome-session to actually run.  Can anyone help me fix this?10:14
hyphenatedkeleus: yeah, remove their password10:14
keleusi thought i did. assume the user is TESTUSER - what would be the proper command?10:14
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neutrinomass[D-Tail] : http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu10:15
anildigitalhi10:15
[D-Tail] neutrinomass: thanks so much :-)10:15
anildigitalautomatically mounted in Ubuntu10:16
hyphenatedkeleus: what makes you think you removed the password?10:16
DarthShrineHow can I make a paste without Firefox? I can't open it, but the info about why it (and other programs) won't open needs to be pasted.10:16
fairymeh, I'm really not wanting to reinstall just to fix this :/10:16
keleushyphenated: should i use "passwd --lock TESTUSER" or will that screw up the UID/GID thing we set up?10:16
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glickhi10:16
hyphenatedkeleus: yes, you should try that. it won't affect the other things you've been playing with10:16
glickhowdy10:16
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keleushyphenated: that did it10:17
fairyOkies... since noone has a clue on that, perhaps a rephrase would help.  What would cause gnome-session to delay starting after logging in to an xsession?10:17
b14ckhow can i mount USB10:17
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sytrhi all!! i have amd64 3000+ 1,8mhz   but cpuinfo says cpu MHz         : 1005.17210:18
keleushyphenated: im all set now :) even if someone breaks into the client (which is world-accessable by my choice) they wont get very far10:18
detectiveinspektwhere is the java runtime located, limewire can't find it10:18
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keleushyphenated: thats why im being paranoid - other than SSH nothing else (should) be listening and open. I'm going to audit my open ports soon to REALLY make sure.10:19
hyphenatedhave fun10:19
keleusdetectiveinspekt: DONT USE LIMEWIRE10:19
keleusjust ASKING for trouble10:19
sytrhi all!! i have amd64 3000+ 1,8mhz   but cpuinfo says cpu MHz         : 1005.172 (sorry for flooding)10:20
detectiveinspektwhy?10:20
keleusalmost half the dead systems that come in for work at the store i work at... have Limewire and/or kazaa10:20
keleusthe others have an IE history page full of porn10:20
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keleusso that narrows it down a little :)10:20
glicksytr, your cpu throttles down when its not needed10:20
fairyOkies.... after more experimentation... I think I figuredpart of it out... but, not how to fix it.10:21
sytrhypertransport?10:21
fairyI looked at logs, and it said client rejected from localhost...10:21
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polpak!tell detectiveinspekt about limewire10:21
fairyso, I guessed maybe my iptables firewall could be affecting it.10:21
fairyI disabled that, and gnome started up right away.10:21
keleusdetectiveinspekt: im sure you'll be invinvible (not under windows i presume) but think of the poor sods you redistribute the crap to...10:21
keleus!tell keleus about limewire10:21
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hyphenatedfairy: your iptables blocks localhost?10:21
keleusi just wanna read it10:21
fairySo... question is, how do I allow gnome to work properly with iptables..10:21
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polpakfairy: your firewall should allow all traffic to the loopback interface10:22
fairyhyphenated: I'm guessing so, I'm really ignorant, just been following guides.10:22
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loderunnerDoes anyone know where I could get an AMD 64/Opteron mobo that has at least 8 dimm slots and supports DDR2?  Been searching for over an hour now...10:22
fairypolpak, well... the problem before disabling the firewall (iptables) was gnome taking a good 5 minutes to start gnome-session10:22
polpakfairy: so what firewall rules do you have set up?10:22
fairySo... I'm -guessing- it was allowed... but, something caused it to delay quite a bit and I don't understand why.10:22
keleusfairy: sounds like its waiting for something to time out10:22
hyphenatedfairy: some guides suck more than others. one of your first rules should be what polpak said: allow anything to anywhere for the 'lo' interface10:22
polpakfairy: use pastebin pls10:22
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B0FHok i have looked on the forums does anyone know the stupid dependancy that is missing for transgamings point2play cedega?10:23
fairypolpak, I'll try.  One moment. (Still having a few troubles) but the guide was found at the ubuntu document storage thinger... (gwos) under dapper and firewall.  I'll grab the link and pastebin my script.10:23
B0FHit's driveing me nuts that its breaking synaptic being installed10:23
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topfsI got something about ath_hal is running twice as the error message, couldn't read it all to well because it flew by rather quickly and in debug It seems as ath0 cant get IPv6 running10:24
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hyphenatedkeleus: no private messages, please10:24
sytrHow can i start lm-sensors10:24
DarthShrineHow does one get a webpage through telnet?10:24
topfsBut eth0 can't get IPv6 running either10:24
keleushyphenated: i didn't want my open port all over the channel :)10:24
fairySilly question, what's the url of the pastebin thing again? paste.ubuntu.nl?10:24
keleuspastebin.com10:24
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fairyoh :o10:25
keleushehe10:25
apokryphosfairy: /topic10:25
scheurihi all10:25
apokryphoshello10:25
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stephan__hi10:25
fairyapokryphos: thanks :) still learning how to use irssi :)10:25
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sytrwhen i do  sudo /etc/init.d/lm-sensors start --->* Setting sensors limits...                    [fail] 10:25
apokryphosfairy: *shiver*10:25
keleuswell i gota get some sleep10:25
chavosometimes pastebin.com gets a little overloaded10:26
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keleusthanks again for all the help hyphenated - i've learned a lot from that session10:26
hyphenatedDarthShrine: telnet www.google.com 80, then type in "GET / HTTP/1.0" and press enter twice10:26
scheuriwhen does pastbin delete the content anyway?10:26
apokryphosI don't believe it does10:26
keleusDarthShrine: the first / after GET is the path on the server10:26
scheuriwow10:26
keleusDarthShrine: so you can try things like "GET /index.html HTTP/1.0" and such10:27
apokryphosscheuri: pastebin.com only holds text... the ubuntu one allows you to add screenies too =)10:27
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peronihello10:27
scheuriapokryphos: that is true, but still....I dont know how long pastbin does exists...but I image there are LOOAADS of thing up there10:27
DarthShrinekeleus, Thanks. I hate my laptop. It keeps breaking.10:27
scheuripastebin10:27
keleusDarthShrine: wait a second though, i got more info for ya :)10:27
topfsis it possible to get the EXACT verbose log from the bootup in ubuntu?10:27
B0FHso does anyone know why transgaming.com point2play cedega breaks synaptic? what dependancy is it missing.....i mean it still runs but nothing else will install10:28
noiesmotops dmesg10:28
fairyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15592 <-- the link I got the script from and the contents of my firewall.bash script10:28
scheuritopfs: yes, it is...should be under /var/log/dmesg10:28
topfsthx10:28
noiesmotopfs, just type dmesg10:28
hyphenatedB0FH: can you open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?10:28
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B0FHhyphenated:  yes i can do that and it just uninstalls it10:29
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keleusDarthShrine: see http://www.faqs.org/ftp/rfc/rfc1945.txt and http://www.faqs.org/ftp/rfc/rfc2616.txt for info on http 1.0 and 1.1 respectively10:29
chavoB0FH, it depends on xlibs and xlibs was removed from dapper10:29
hyphenatedB0FH: uninstalls what?10:29
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keleusburried in those documents is all the commands and how you could use them10:29
peroniI have a problem: after resizing a partition, parted shows the correct size (about 20G), but 'df' still gives me the old size (about 10G and 1G free). what can I do to get the other 9G?10:29
keleusyou can do the same thing with SMTP and POP, btw10:29
B0FHhyphenated: did that more times then i can count it will remove cedega10:29
chavothe same thing happens with opera10:29
B0FHhmmm10:29
scheurixlibs has been removed?10:29
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DarthShrinekeleus, Ah cool. I guess I'll wget them.10:29
B0FHi wonder if i can just temperarly through xlibs in there10:29
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B0FHfrom the breezy sourcrs.list10:30
chavoB0FH, some people have done that10:30
anildigitalhwo to set +v for #ruby channel10:30
B0FHthere we go thats what i wanted to hear ^_^10:30
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Madpilotchavo & bofh, to install Opera in 6.06, check the Opera forums - you need some package from Breeze via packages.ubuntu.com10:30
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scheuriby the way...anyone installed kolab on ubuntu once?10:30
keleusgoodnight all10:30
chavoMadpilot, yes I know10:30
scheuribye keleus10:31
chavothat's what I told him10:31
reggiekrayI have an AMD dual core 64 CPU would you reccomend installing the AMD64 version of Ubuntu or the x86?10:31
B0FHum i don' twant opera just cedega10:31
B0FHopera is creepy XD10:31
chavoB0FH, it's the same dependency for both10:31
keleusinteresting choice of typo10:31
thomasMreggiekray 32bit is the way you should be going.10:31
B0FHoh ok10:31
thomasMso many things are incompatible with 64bit still.10:31
scheurireggiekray: that depends...I personally would say use the x386 as there are still some issues with AMD6310:31
reggiekraythank you10:31
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polpakfairy: before the #Allow https line put iptables -A TRUSTED -i lo -j ACCEPT10:31
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topfsdmesg isn't enough :) is there one that has even more information? because I have an error that is shown in verbose on bootup but not in dmesg? I get a [fail]  atleast10:32
b14ckhow do i mount USB?10:32
fairypolpak, I'll try that. :) thanks muchly, I was feeling really frustrated :P let's see what that does :)10:32
scheuritopfs: maybe /var/log/dmesg has logged it...10:32
noiesmotopfs, check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages10:32
polpakfairy: should set it to accept all packages on the loopback interface10:32
thomasMk ubuntu-xgl is dead right now, maybe somebody here has experience. The switcher plugin is crashing the titlebars of my programs, but i do not know why, any advice for me?10:32
polpakthomasM: don't use beta software?10:33
polpakthomasM: that's all I got. ;p10:33
B0FHhmm so i should get the breezy sources.list and then install cedega?10:33
thomasMpolpak, i can always disable the plugin, but thats not the point. i've had it working before.10:33
chavothomasM, do you have the dock plugin enabled?10:33
DarkMageZanyone know of a 3rd party repo with uptodate gstreamer packages?10:33
thomasMchavo yes i do, and i'm not too fond of it.10:33
polpakB0FH: can't you just get a source installer?10:34
thomasMchavo is that the cause of my problems.10:34
chavothat's waht is causing the crash10:34
noiesmothomasM, check the order of plugins also dock and miniwn is a bit buggy maybe disable them thru gconf-editor10:34
chavoyes10:34
thomasMBOFH cedega installs fine in dapper.10:34
Hattoriis "/etc/init.d/gdm start" and "startx" run the same thing?10:34
B0FHyea if i want crappy cedega cvs that won't even run guildwars10:34
Hattorido "/etc/init.d/gdm start" and "startx" run the same thing?10:34
thomasMnoiesmo the plugins are ordered just as the ubuntu guide told me to put them.10:34
chavoHattori, no10:34
scheuriHattori: as far as I know...no they dont10:34
Hattorichavo: what they start?10:34
thomasMi don't like the dock so i'm going to redo it.10:34
B0FH!sources10:34
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.10:34
scheuriHattori: gdm starts x but itself as well...gdm is the gnome display manager10:35
noiesmothomasM, ok so do you have dock and miniwin are at fault otherwise not sure10:35
Hattorihmm?10:35
chavoHattori, startx starts an xserver and it will launc whatever is in the xinitrc, gdm is a login manger and allows you to choose sessions10:35
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fairyyay, that fixed it, thank you so much! :)10:35
polpakfairy: sure thing =)10:36
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scheuri;)10:36
Hattorichavo: where that xinitrc is?10:36
chavoHattori, also with gdm you can do fast user switching, allow remote logins, etc10:36
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chavoHattori, make a .xinitrc in your home to override the system10:36
polpakoff to bed10:37
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Hattorichavo: when i boot i see one gui, if instead i use startx i see another one.. and i wish to have the stratx one by default at boot. how?10:38
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B0FH!sources10:38
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.10:38
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chavoHattori, waht is startx starting up?10:38
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Hattorichavo: ehe, dunno i asked you before ;}10:39
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B0FHHA! it worked! gettting the breezy repos where the correct solution.....cedega is now installed XD10:39
Hattorichavo: how to check it out?10:39
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chavoHattori, hold on a sec I'kk try it10:39
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thomasMk um these are my plugins that i have installed10:40
Hattorichavo: i installed ubuntu-desktop and i see this GUI by default, but i wish to have the one that loads with startx..10:40
chavoHattori, well here it starts KDE, but I use kubuntu10:40
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chavoHattori, you started with kubuntu?10:41
thomasMk these are my plugins, nowhere do i see the dock plugin10:41
thomasMgconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place menu switcher10:41
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Hattorino10:41
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chavowell I'm confused, which environment are you in now?10:41
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thomasMXgl / Gnome10:42
Hattorii installed ubuntu-desktop, so i think gnome..10:42
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noiesmothomasM, hmm I dont have Menu10:42
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noiesmothomasM, please check whats in /usr/lib/compiz also are you using quinstorm packages10:43
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[D-Tail] DarkMageZ: oh yay!10:44
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[D-Tail] DarkMageZ: for the record, I downloaded the drivers from ATI.com and did a manual driver overwrite with dpkg -i10:44
noiesmothomasM, I have gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher trailfocus water bs state widget neg10:44
Hattorianyway, installing ati driver, when i do "aticnofig --initial" after succesfully have installed the drivers with installer, i get: aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:44
[D-Tail] 8.22.5 was replaced with 8.25.18 and now it works :-)10:44
thomasMugh.10:45
[D-Tail] fglrx works, 3Dacceleration works... I'm a happy camper for the moment! Now for getting that 10-button mouse working again ^_^10:45
DarkMageZ[D-Tail] , eh, the ones from the repo should have been 8.25.1810:45
noiesmothomasM, nividia or ati10:45
[D-Tail] DarkMageZ: apparently, I don't have that repo enabled... that's what's so weird, cause I have enabled all standard 6.06LTS repos10:45
[D-Tail] anyhow, I'm happy enough already10:45
[D-Tail] should I also install fglrx-control and all?10:46
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Madeyeany idea what would cause "Notice:Trying to get property of non-object" ?10:46
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FlamekebabWill I get eaten alive for asking support questions here, regardless of the topic?10:50
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farousFlamekebab: depends if it is for ubuntu surely you can ask. otherwise the wolves are hungry10:51
LeaChimFlamekebab, this is the 'Official Ubuntu support channel' it is for you to ask questions :/10:51
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FlamekebabI've encountered places that claim to be for support and then eat n00bs alive when they attempt to use it for that, so I'm just being cautious10:51
FlamekebabI've already posted on the forum, but it seems most topics in the laptop support forum just die10:52
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Flamekebaband the other user on there who was having the same problem and owns the same laptop has vanished10:52
farousFlamekebab: cast your question people here are friendly as on the forums10:52
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farousbare in mind sometimes people simply do not know10:52
[LL] Baluhi10:53
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[LL] Balusomebody help me pls10:53
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Nilsyyeah, I wasnt eaten alive when I ask'ed a lame question ;)10:53
FlamekebabWell the thing was, the user with the same laptop managed to get suspend and hibernate working10:53
[LL] Balui can't install ubuntu dapper drake10:53
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NilsyFlamekebab, which laptop is that10:53
FlamekebabAcer 1362WLMi10:53
kingmobcan I install the dapper drake server edition via debootstrap?10:54
FlamekebabI can't get as far as him, unfortunately10:54
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Flamekebabthe problem he was having was that upon resuming from suspend, his sound was dead10:54
Nilsycan you get Hibernate to work?10:54
Flamekebabnope10:54
farousFlamekebab: this is a tough one. i just gave up on those functions till they are solved. in the near future i hope10:54
[LL] Balui have problems with x server10:54
Nilsyyeah, I got hibernate to work on my Fujitsu-Siemens P7120, but sound is dead on resume10:55
FlamekebabWell I was thinking, can't one manually restart the sound system10:55
farous[LL] Balu: why you do not use a simpler name ;) what is your prob10:55
Nilsyand suspend isnt working yet10:55
FlamekebabI could do that under SuSe10:55
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thomasMthanks a lot guys i fixed my problem.10:55
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=== Nilsy wouldnt know :(
thomasMno more stupid dock any more.10:56
noiesmothomasM, what was the prob then10:56
Flamekebabhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=111798310:56
thomasMnoiesmo the dock was the problem.10:56
noiesmothomasM, bitten by the dock10:56
thomasMswitcher works fine now.10:56
thomasMnoiesmo i prefer using the window list anyways.10:56
chuck8why does SLAX xfce run so much smoother than xubuntu's?10:56
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noiesmothomasM, yes good stuff its working :)10:57
farouschuck8: you can help by filing a bug so developers can work on it10:57
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farousafter all this is a community os10:57
farous;)10:57
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NilsyFlamekebab, cheers for that link ;)10:58
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thomasMnow to disable this horrible shift backspace owns your Xgl session-ness10:58
topfsHow do I change the overall Samba settings under ubuntu10:58
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Flamekebabwell I often help people with other problem (stuff that I actually know how to do!) and I always advocate "help us help you"10:59
chuck8i don't think it is a bug, its just ubuntu vs. Slax's paired down version of slackware10:59
FlamekebabI don't want to just act like a bratty kid and say "make it work!!!"10:59
Nilsyyeah :=)10:59
topfsHow do I change the overall Samba settings under ubuntu, Because I need to change it from mshome to something else and when I tried it vanished10:59
Flamekebabbecause it's never that simple10:59
chavothomasM, xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us will fix the keyboard10:59
pere__HI. I am having problems installing the microsoft-fonts under breeze10:59
thomasMchavo thankyou, but i've already done that.10:59
chavothomasM, or .whatever your country code is10:59
farouspere__: i think it is under multiverse repos do you have it enabled11:00
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pere__farous. Yes, I think so11:00
thomasMi want to disable the shift backspace, or make it something i will be less likely to hit.11:00
pere__deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse11:00
sytrHOw can I start 3Ddesktop11:00
thomasMlike ctrl alt ` lol.11:00
noiesmothomasM, this is the go xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server"11:01
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thomasMsytr i think its 3ddesk11:01
pere__farous: That should be it, shouldnt it?11:01
farouspere__: its under regular not backports. so add one like it with dapper instead of dapper-backports11:01
^^angustaHas anyone worked with a dual P2 processor board before?11:01
pere__ok11:01
^^angusta440BX/ZX chipset?11:01
thomasMAhhh thankyou so much noiesmo11:01
sytrthomasM: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher    i installed form synaptic11:01
thomasMwhen i type, i type with my finger hovering over shift11:02
noiesmothomasM, np :)11:02
thomasMand i'm always making mistakes.11:02
thomasMsytr thats not something you should be using on a daily basis...11:02
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thomasMits more of a program to show off with.11:02
sytrok thx11:02
pere__farous: That seemed to work perfectly!! Thanks a lot!!11:03
thomasMsytr, look up xgl though, but be advised its beta software, and installing it can break your system.11:03
chavosytr, just run 3ddesktop from the run box11:03
thomasMbut defninitely lookup some videos on it.11:03
farouspere__: your welcomed :)11:03
thomasMbut yeah have fun with 3ddesktop.11:03
thomasM:D11:03
thomasMnight guys... err morning guys.11:03
thomasMsuns just up11:03
thomasMlol11:03
farouslol 6 am here11:04
missing_hello11:04
[LL] Balufarous: i sent you private messages, can you reply?11:04
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sytryeah i started with 3ddesk11:04
sytr:)11:04
farous[LL] Balu: you can not sent pm if you are not registered i recieved nothing11:04
[LL] Baluoh, sorry11:05
farousno prob :)11:05
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[LL] Balufarous: [ [LL] Balu ]  so, i tried to install ubuntu dapper drake, but i couldn't install it11:05
[LL] Balu[ [LL] Balu ]  the x server doesn't work11:05
[LL] Balu[ [LL] Balu ]  i have x800xt pci-e vga11:05
farous!tell [LL] Balu about register11:05
FlamekebabI'm wondering whether anyone will be able to help me with my suspend woes11:05
Flamekebabye gods, an x800xt11:05
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Flamekebabare there even drivers available for something so new under Linux?11:06
kandinskiwhoever has a NTFS disk mounted on their ubuntu/windows dual-boot system, do you mind sharing your /etc/fstab?11:06
farous[LL] Balu: go on and for support question better in main room so others can help too you will have better chance this way11:06
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KenSentMekandinski: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       111:07
kandinskiKenSentMe: thanks a heap11:07
farouskandinski: i think this is what you are looking for /dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    defaults        0       011:07
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kandinskiwell, ta11:07
kandinskiI actually wanted to do it ro, but I think I can add that11:07
farousmy default is read only and can be only accessed by root11:08
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KenSentMe!tell Flamekebab about ati11:08
farousthough i rarely do anything with it11:08
Flamekebabwell, I'm only concerned about the ATI drivers through minor curiosity11:08
Flamekebabboth my laptop and my tower run GeForce FXs11:09
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KenSentMeFlamekebab: ah, ok11:09
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farousFlamekebab: do not use it its just trouble most of the time11:09
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FlamekebabI'm currently struggling with http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1117983 and the guide included therein http://en.opensuse.org/NVidia_Suspend_HOWTO11:09
kandinskifarous: right. I think I will use KenSentMe's, which is user-readable, and modify it to be -ro11:09
Flamekebabisn't there a way to restart the sound system manually, like in Suse?11:10
[GUARDiAN] does anyone know if and how i can force the i810-driver to allocate a certain amount of memory? it seems that the amount of vidmem it has during bootup is to small to get the dri-modules loaded -> no opengl =(11:10
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topfsHow do I set advanced Samba options? Netbios name or workgroup in Ubuntu? In SuSE i had it in yast or Konqourer11:10
xukunits possible to get a notification when I recieve new mail in Firefox?11:10
xukunsorry ist ...11:11
Fjodorxukun: You could use the mozilla suite instead?11:11
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Fjodorxukun: That's what I do, so I don't know11:11
farousxukun: you mean thunderbird?11:11
[GUARDiAN] funny thing is: it worked without problems yesterday, until i restarted gdm a lot of times testing a gdm-theme11:11
xukunFjodor, sorry I mean thunderbird rrrrrrrr11:11
chuck8do i have to manually install opera?  I don't see it in synaptic11:11
Fjodorxukun: Ok. Don't know, sorry11:12
xukunfarous, yes11:12
Madpilotchuck8, yes11:12
farouschuck8: add the opera repos11:12
farous!tell chuck8 about opera11:12
chuck8i c!11:13
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[GUARDiAN] !tell [GUARDiAN]  about dri11:14
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adamant1988!tell adamant1988 about opera11:14
gdbtopfs: There may be some samba configuration utility you can download, otherwise you'll need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and then run /etc/init.d/samba restart.11:14
farouschuck8: it is running here perfectly even the latest weekly opera9beta11:15
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DarkMageZanyone know of any repo which have the latest gstreamer?11:18
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Flamekebabisn't there a way to restart the sound system manually, like in Suse?11:18
topfsthx gdb exactly hat I looked for, but I don't think it will help because everything seems right11:18
NilsyFlamekebab, how did you do it in suse ?11:18
Flamekebabthere was a way of doing it through Suse's control centre, or whatever it called it, Yast?11:19
topfs/etc/init.d/samba: line 25:  6773 Avbruten (SIGABRT)      start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D11:19
topfs                                                                         [fail] 11:19
Flamekebabin Suse 9 I seem to remember11:19
topfsJust got this? What could it be?11:19
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Flashq009I tried to install the server version of ubuntu 6.06 LTS, by choosing the first option, Install to Harddisk, but it just hangs.  What can I do to resolve the hangs?11:20
topfsForget it :) Forgot to sudo :)11:20
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Flamekebabd'oh11:21
topfsDoes ubuntu have some kind of firewall enabled by default?11:21
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MatthewvFlashq009, maybe run memtest, and see if you have a memory prob.11:21
Matthewvtopfs, yes11:21
MetaMorfoziSAnybody please help me! My tty is very nasty: http://metamorfozis.hu/p/tty.jpg i dunno why, i have driver, and direct rendering enabled, this is an s3 unichrome videocard, in a notebook [amd 2000 with 256ram] 11:21
MetaMorfoziSHow can i fix it?11:21
Matthewvtopfs, iptables is the built in firewall11:21
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topfsMatthewv is it possible to turn it of or set it up?11:21
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Matthewvtopfs, it is, but you are generally fine if you leave it alone11:22
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Flashq009I do not think its a memory problem because I was able to install other linux  on it.11:22
Matthewv!firestarter11:22
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.11:22
Matthewvtopfs ^^^11:23
topfsMatthewv because I have some troubles with samba and in suse I had to turn it off :)11:23
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kbrooksHehe11:23
farousFlamekebab: check /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart11:23
farousand your name make my hungry :(11:23
Flamekebabhehe11:24
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Matthewvtopfs, you could take a look at 'man iptables' or give firestarter a try11:24
Flamekebabhmm11:25
topfsMatthewv if I install firestarter is iptables off then?11:25
Flamekebabnow to attempt to follow the Nvidia suspent how-to11:25
Flamekebabhttp://en.opensuse.org/NVidia_Suspend_HOWTO - can anyone help me with this?11:25
Nilsyfarous, do alsa-utils restart it .. I thought it just resetting the mixer ect11:25
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Matthewvtopfs, firestarter allows you to control iptables11:26
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FlamekebabPicasa is nice..11:26
farousNilsy: i asked him to look into it am not sure11:26
Nilsyoh ok ;)11:26
MatthewvFlamekebab, is it cold?11:26
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farousalsa is the default sound server though.11:26
NilsyIm not sure either, which was why I asked ;)11:26
Nilsyyep11:26
Flamekebabnot that kind of shiver..11:26
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FlamekebabI'm using ALSA11:27
Flamekebabworry ye not11:27
MatthewvFlamekebab, something with picasa11:27
farousFlamekebab: need some heat can smell the kabab from here11:27
MetaMorfoziSAnybody please help me! My tty is very nasty: http://metamorfozis.hu/p/tty.jpg i dunno why, i have driver, and direct rendering enabled, this is an s3 unichrome videocard, in a notebook [amd 2000 with 256ram] 11:27
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FlamekebabWHY do I read that as "my titty is very nasty" ?11:27
Nilsyand some distos have a restart thingy for it11:27
kbrooksquestion11:27
NilsyFlamekebab, cause you dont get enuff ?11:27
topfsMatthewv Thx11:27
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MatthewvMetaMorfoziS, is that what comes up when you start your computer?11:27
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kbrookshow do i switch languages, from fr to en?11:28
MetaMorfoziSMatthewv: no, is that when i press ctrl alt + 1- 611:29
torthokbrooks: System->Admin->Laguage... in Gnome..11:29
farouskbrooks: i know only how to do it from the loginscreen just open the options and select lang11:29
MetaMorfoziSthis is my tty^^11:29
MatthewvMetaMorfoziS, oh ok... thats kind of strange then.. usually ppl have trouble with X, and the console is fine...11:29
MetaMorfoziSif i type my username and pw and type eject -r it ejects the cdom11:29
MetaMorfoziSso it's work, but seem brutal:D11:29
kbrooksbrb :P11:29
MatthewvMetaMorfoziS, maybe try starting with the no framebuffer option11:29
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MetaMorfoziShow?11:30
MetaMorfoziSor where?11:30
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MetaMorfoziShow can i turn it off?11:30
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rokerhi all11:30
MatthewvMetaMorfoziS, i'm not totally sure, just wait a moment11:31
MetaMorfoziSokay, thankyou11:31
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MatthewvMetaMorfoziS, does the splash screen (ubuntu logo, with progress bar) display fine?11:31
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Alfred_HI!11:32
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MetaMorfoziSyes, but after the loading it changes to the tty, [in this case it's normally seen]  and make and do something:D and the kdm loads...11:32
MetaMorfoziSbut it's an other problem i think...11:32
MetaMorfoziSso ^^ yes11:33
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Alfred_Have anyone experienced problems using the new gstream 0.10 engine? My problem is that Rythmbox and Banshee are having problems with the wind/rewind feature with the progress bar. Everytime I place the bar a few seconds into the song, the bar won't do as commanded, it jumps a bit back and forward, and ends up in a different place that I wanted it to.11:34
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MatthewvMetaMorfoziS, when you restart your computer, and the boot menu comes up, chose to edit your default option... add 'vga=771' to the end of the kernel line.. i think that will disable framebuffer and might help... if you can't work out exactly where or how to add that part, just try adding at the end of the line with the work linux, or vm or something like that.. maybe someone else knows exactly what to do11:35
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MatthewvAlfred_, i have that too11:35
MatthewvAlfred_, on banshee, anyway11:35
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evi|oneHello. I have a dual-boot manager. Windows XP + Dapper. I use Dapper's GRUB as the boot manager. The problem is that I need to reinstall Windows. Windows setup will ofcourse overwrite the MBR. How do I restore GRUB after that?11:36
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MetaMorfoziSMatthewv: is it possible in grub?11:36
MatthewvAlfred_, maybe ask in #banshee on irc.gnome.org11:36
MatthewvMetaMorfoziS, yes11:36
opusmaxxhi can somebody please tell me how to run Vice (commodore 64 emulator).... i installed it using apt-get, but vice did not get added to the start menu, and i dont know how to launch it from the command line11:36
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farousevi|one: you can use the install cd in rescue mode then reinstall grub11:37
Matthewvevi|one, i would boot off the live cd, then open a terminal and run 'sudo chroot /dev/<linux_partition>' and then 'grub-install /dev/hda' to reinstall grub on the mbr11:37
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farousevi|one: check help.ubuntu.com am not sure but their ought to be a page on that there11:37
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Alfred_Matthewv, Good to see that I'm not the only one! :)11:37
MetaMorfoziSthx Matthewv, i try, bb11:37
evi|oneAlright, thanks. Both of you.11:37
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Matthewvfarous, have you had success with that method... it didn't work for me, so i use live cd now11:38
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Alfred_Matthewv, Quite irritating with this bug. Would be a good idea to reinstall the gstream 0.8 engine?11:38
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MatthewvAlfred_, no, banshee at least has discontinued all gstreamer 0.8 support11:38
farousMatthewv: worked more than once. but never tried it with dapper as i do not use window anymore11:38
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farousthe partition is there though just in case ;)11:38
Alfred_Matthewv, great! *sigh*11:39
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Matthewvfarous, actually, i generally keep my mbr on a floppy disk, just so i dont overwrite windows.... and yeah, my win partition is still there just in case, although i haven't used it for months11:39
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MatthewvAlfred_, wait a moment i'll just give banshee a shot :)11:39
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Flamekebabfloppy drive? What is this arcane device you speak of?11:40
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Alfred_Matthewv, Are you using dapper? Quite many bugs that has come along with this new ubuntu version! Another bug is with Azureus not working properly (popup messages won't dissapear, sysicon is invisible, no way to close tabs etc)11:40
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MatthewvAlfred_, actually it all seems to be working fine for me now, on dapper...11:40
MatthewvAlfred_, although i am actually running the cvs copy of dapper... I'll try rhythmbox11:41
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FrogzooAlfred_: ctrl w closes azureus windows11:41
farousAlfred_: i agree but this seem to be java prob11:41
Hattoriis tehre a terminal command to show the "gnome session startup programs" window?11:41
Alfred_Matthewv: hmmm, that's odd! Mine is still not behaving!11:41
bennyhey, does anyone here use Nicotine or Museek?11:42
chavoHattori, gnome-session-properties11:42
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farousi agree though that it has many bugs. wonder if they did not delay it how much worse it would have been11:42
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eXistenZFrogzoo, What is the DNS server (bind9) used to?11:42
NET||abuse_eXistenZ: man bind11:42
FrogzooeXistenZ: used to? used for?11:42
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eXistenZOops, sorry.11:42
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Matthewveverything seems fine Alfred_11:43
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Alfred_Frogzoo, Farous: thanks! But still, It does give a sour taste in your mouth when you feel you had lesser problems with the previous version of Ubuntu. Anyway, I'm willing to give Ubuntu several chances to correct these problems/bugs before I give in :)11:43
Hattorichavo: damn, doesn't start =\ is there any way to edit in terminal the list of starting programs?11:43
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farous:) Alfred_ perhaps we just upgraded too soon11:43
chavoHattori, you could, but it's not easy11:44
Hattorichavo: there is not a file to edit? ;{11:44
Alfred_farous, hehe, it appears so, but I am using the final version that was released 1st of june.11:45
FrogzooAlfred_: unfortunately, I think with dapper they've been a bit ambitious - but the really important thing about dapper is that it conclusively proves that linux on the desktop has a future, and is a serious competitor to windows - with any new release there's always bugs that need ironing out, just goes with the territory11:45
chavoHattori, look in .gnome2, I forget what it's called.11:45
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Alfred_Matthewv, hmm, mine is still not behaving properly. It jumps back and forth, and seems quite confused.11:45
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MatthewvAlfred_, Frogzoo i'm really looking forward to edgy, as for me... i prefer features to stability :)11:46
MetaMorfoziSMatthewv: i can't type = in the grub when editing the kernel line:D11:46
Alfred_Frogzoo, Matthewv: I agree Matthewv, stability is much more important than features and eye candy!11:46
farousAlfred_: have you tried installing sun java from sun website11:46
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kbrooksUbUntU!11:46
MetaMorfoziShm i check menu.lst11:46
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MatthewvMetaMorfoziS, it can be added in menu.lst, but then its permanent (well until changed) whereas adding it at boot time enables it just for that boot11:47
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loic_hi11:48
loic_bonjour11:48
Matthewvhi loic_11:48
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loic_hi  Matthew11:48
loic_i have a problem with my logitech webcam11:48
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Frogzoofarous: eg?11:48
loic_i can't install my webcam11:49
Matthewv!webcam11:49
ubotu[webcam]  now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras11:49
MetaMorfoziSokay, i have done added it to menu.lst go restart11:49
MetaMorfoziS:)11:49
farousFrogzoo: some in multiverse so i do not blame ubuntu some in universe11:49
pianoboy3333I really, really need hard drive help, I'm desperate, please please, can someone help me? I think I mortally screwed my ubuntu partition, I meant to install xubuntu on an external, but it seems to have installed over my main partition, Fujitsu was helping me before and we had started using autopsy to try, but he had to leave, so I need someone else to help finish! I really, really need extreme help, take a look at http://www.ubuntufo11:49
pianoboy3333rums.org/showthread.php?p=112690511:49
gdbIs there anyone in here right now that's responsible for easyubuntu?11:49
loic_thank ubotu11:49
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loic_i will try it11:49
kbrooksgdb: just ask.11:49
Alfred_farous: No, I used the ubuntuguide (easylinux.org). But it's not that important. I'll just wait for the next version. But if it getstoo irritating, I'll think about applying the Java installer11:49
farousFrogzoo: lyx, wxmaxima, simpy, eclipse worked much smoother and better from source11:50
loic_i have taked easycam11:50
farousjava11:50
farousthe list go on11:50
adam_Hi guys. I have a slight problem - I just ran the pear manager to install the base pear modules for php, but it exited with errors, which is ok. The problem is that it also deleted /tmp :( I have now recreated it, but I am not sure what permissions to give it, and i think it is caused my system to have some problems. The perms are currently drwxrwxrwt, and it is green in the terminal. Can anyone help me out? thanks11:50
gdbkbrooks: Oh, I don't have a question about it, more a feature request.11:50
loic_but how can i launch it ?11:50
loic_what command please11:50
kbrooksgdb: #easyubuntu11:50
Frogzoofarous: I've got amarok 1.4 & the latest taskjuggler in the repos, plus fglrx 8.25.18 so I'm largely pleased with dapper11:50
gdbkbrooks: Thank you. :-)11:50
loic_(sorry for my english but i'm a french student)11:50
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gnubeadam_: Yeah, not having the right permissions will affect your system.11:50
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xaero57have you any idea ?11:51
xaero57what's the command ?11:51
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farouswho ever workd on fglrx did a really good job. installed from source and repos and both had same results11:51
adam_gnube, thanks. Can you tell me what permissions I should have set?11:51
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gnubeadam_: A lot of programs write to /tmp  . . .11:51
gnubeadam_: Let me check mine . . . brb11:51
adam_thanks11:51
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Frogzoofarous: pretty sure Seveas_ is the guilty party there11:51
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farousfluxbox i compiled also. for i hated how the menus are messed11:51
SeveasFrogzoo, ?11:52
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FrogzooSeveas: c'mon seveas, you packaged the new fglrx, admit it!11:52
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SeveasFrogzoo, only for breezy11:52
gnubeadam_: I have it chowned by root and chmoded 77711:52
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FrogzooSeveas: ah, i c11:52
farousSeveas: i was saying who ever worked on fglrx did really superb job. so Frogzoo said you are the guilty part11:52
gnubeadam_: try that?11:52
kbrooks#ubuntu ops arent the guilty party most of the time11:52
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SeveasFor dapper the l-r-m packages contain the latest and are produced by Adam Conrad 11:53
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xaero57its ok i have11:53
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MetaMorfoziSMatthewv: we are on good track! At boot it said that mode is unavailable that i setted (with vga=711) and get for me a list 1-7 with rows*cols values and asked me abotu a numer or `scan`, i typed scan, and it booted. At this time i have a very beautiful tty, but how can i fix it to all boot?:D11:54
xaero57trouv le programme inside system -> administration11:54
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RancidLMhey all11:54
Frogzoo!fr11:54
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:54
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xaero57hey11:54
xaero57ubotu11:54
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xaero57what's the link ?11:54
Frogzooxaero57: ubuto est une 'bot'11:54
adam_gnube: It doesnt seem to have helped. The whole /tmp directory was removed, will this cause issues for apps (e.g. konsole, which is having issues) that presumably store data there? Should I just do a reboot?11:54
Bassettscan someone help me with my menu.lst11:55
RancidLMmy current user doesn't have permission to hibernate/switch users  now the "power" button just loggs me out and back into GDM how do i re-enable hibernation ?11:55
xaero57Frogzoo : merci. what's the link11:55
FrogzooBassetts: sure11:55
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Bassettsive been told to add vga=79111:55
AJ004i cant get into su11:55
Frogzooxaero57: link to what exactly?11:55
Bassettsafter # defoptions=quiet splash11:55
Bassettswould i have to uncomment?11:55
xaero57link to ubuntu-fr11:55
KnorrieBassetts: no11:55
farous!tell AJ004 about sudo11:55
AJ004i tried to do a su and my password isnt working11:55
gnubeadam_, Yeah, you need to make sure that /tmp exists and has the proper permissions since a lot of applications write to /tmp11:55
KnorrieBassetts: there's exactly one # in that line11:56
Bassettsok Knorrie11:56
FrogzooBassetts: should go at the end of the '#kopts' line, then 'sudo update-grub'11:56
AJ004farous so instead of su i use sudo?11:56
gnubeadam_, did you chown /tmp root?11:56
farousyap11:56
adam_gnube: I have done that, it is root:root, 77711:56
AJ004ok11:56
AJ004thanks11:56
farous:)11:56
gnubeadam_, OK11:56
BassettsFrogzoo: i got told to put it after # defoptions=quiet splash =S11:56
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gnubeadam_, You should not have to reboot.11:56
Knorrieadam_: make it chmod /tmp 177711:56
BassettsFrogzoo:  what i am trying to do is make my custom usplash work11:56
farousAJ004: you prefix any command bu sudo and then you are ok11:56
gnubeadam_, Although you may   . . . since certain session files may be missing.11:56
FrogzooBassetts: well, I don't know about that, but #kopts works for me :D11:57
gnubeadam_, Are you getting any errors now?11:57
Bassettsfrogz: ill try it11:57
BassettsFrogzoo: even11:57
Bassettssilly auto nick complete11:57
AJ004farous i am trying to install java11:57
FrogzooAJ004: from the repos?11:58
AJ004farous:  I had downloaded easyubuntu java but it says its not installed11:58
farousAJ004: from repos11:58
AJ004when i try a website11:58
adam_gnube: yeah, still the same. Running konsole from the command line (err, in konsole) produces the error "konsole: cannot connect to X server :0.0". Argh11:58
mundialmay anyone tell me why i cant see from ubuntu the windows machine in my network11:58
AJ004farous i downloaded it from the sun website11:58
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Frogzoo!tell AJ004 about java11:58
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AJ004frogzoo shouldnt the easyubuntu java be working?11:58
FrogzooAJ004: follow the wiki guide - read ubotu's pm11:58
farousAJ004: ok you have to run it where you want it installed11:58
gnubeadam_, Yeah, that is because the X server wants to write session stuff, try rebooting.11:58
FrogzooAJ004: this is dapper support, not easyubuntu ;)11:58
AJ004i had installed easyubuntu11:58
kbrooksAJ004: #easyubuntu11:58
gnubew00t dapper!11:58
mathieu_hi, how do i configure network-manager? it doesn't detect my wireless11:59
farousAJ004: i do not know about easyubuntu sorry11:59
mathieu_(wireless is running fine though)11:59
kbrooksif you want help on easyubuntu, ask in #easyubuntu11:59
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BassettsFrogzoo: like this? # kopt=root=/dev/sda5 ro vga=79111:59
gnubefarous, No problem. You can join easyubuntu by typing /join #easyubuntu in your chat client11:59
adam_gnube - ok. Thank you very much! If I am not back soon it means that 1) Im stuck in failsafe, or 2) it worked :p thanks again11:59
gnubeadam_, No problem and good luck11:59
farousgnube: i do not use for i do not need too ;)11:59
FrogzooBassetts: exactly - now 'sudo update-grub'12:00
gnubefarous, erm . . . OK.12:00
kbrooksgnube: xchat lets you right click on #channel and select join12:00
Bassettsshould i remove the other reference i added to vga=791?12:00
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RancidLMdoes any one know how to enable switch users / hibernation support i use to have the option but recently it i just get logged backinto gdm12:00
gnubekbrooks, Ooo, nice. I am running XChat too. :)12:00
FrogzooBassetts: well yes12:00
farousgnube: was helping a fellow that's all i think he is there now12:00
Bassettswish me luck12:00
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=== Bassetts hopes to see a nice blue usplash
=== farous blue nice :(
gnubefarous, Oh gotcha, sorry to but in! :)12:01
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farous:)12:01
SurfnKidis anyone on Xubuntu12:01
SurfnKidI just lost my applications menu12:01
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SurfnKidanyone can give me their menu.xml file12:01
SurfnKidor how can i recreate it12:01
spankiei have a presario r3000 laptop that i cant get the broadcom wireless card working on, is this card ever going to work?12:02
DarkMageZSurfnKid, please see the channel topic of #xubuntu12:02
MadpilotSurfnKid, right-click on the panel, add to panel?12:02
SurfnKidoh ok12:02
farousspankie: i think there is a room specially for broadcom cards do not know the name though just search for it12:02
Frogzoo!tell spankie about broadcom12:02
spankiefarous: thanks!12:02
farous:)12:03
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SurfnKidMadpilot: um yea its on the panel, i click on apps but nothin happens, i checked the .config/menu.xml file and its empty :(12:03
spankiefrogzoo: thanks also12:03
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Frogzoospankie: yw12:03
MadpilotSurfnKid, fun - anyone in #xubuntu?12:03
BassettsFrogzoo: nope12:03
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disposabledoes ubuntu store downloaded packages in /var/cache/apt/archives? i don't have ubuntu, but last time i used it (hoary) it did not by default.12:03
BassettsFrogzoo: i heard someone used 773 instead, worth a try?12:03
farousyap12:03
adam_gnube: thank you very much, it seems to have worked fine.12:04
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kbrooksdisposable: it should12:04
FrogzooBassetts: depends on which resn you want12:04
DarkMageZdisposable, in dapper, it uses the directory you stated :)12:04
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disposablekbrooks, DarkMageZ, thank you12:04
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sladenBassetts: if you had a working usplash wit hth esettings you currently have, then changing it is going to break things12:04
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Bassettshmm, 773 is 1024x768 8bit12:04
SurfnKidta heck happened12:04
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MetaMorfoziSMatthewv: many many thank you! i googled for it, and tryed option: vga=792! it's pretty nice! adn work! so thankyou!!:)12:05
sladenbassetts: it's also Vesa and that means that you loose hiberation/suspend12:05
gnubeadam_, My pleasure, it has happened to me too so I know what it is like.12:05
Bassettssladen: my usplash worked, i tried to make it blue by using: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835&highlight=usplash12:05
Bassettssladen: but like many people from there i get no usplash now12:05
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Bassettsi dont like all my pc to be nice and blue, and to have an orange usplash12:06
jmspeexAny idea why the network manager tells me I've got no network connection (despite the fact that I'm obviously connected)?12:07
farousBassetts: are you running kubuntu12:07
OhzieHas anybody using the glx extension had bad luck with video?12:07
Bassettsfarous: no, ubuntu12:07
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pianoboy3333I really, really need hard drive help, I'm desperate, please please, can someone help me? I think I mortally screwed my ubuntu partition, I meant to install xubuntu on an external, but it seems to have installed over my main partition, Fujitsu was helping me before and we had started using autopsy to try, but he had to leave, so I need someone else to help finish! I really, really need extreme help, take a look at12:07
pianoboy3333http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=112690512:07
farousjmspeex: most probably it is reporting the wrong card12:07
Bassettssladen i have linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 could that be a problem?12:08
Ohziepianoboy3333: PM me12:08
farousjmspeex: jsut type in the wireless interface let it be eth1 or wlan012:08
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OhzieBassetts: Did you just upgrade recently?12:08
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sladenBassetts: argh.  that forums page is WRONG.  please follow the documentation o nthe wiki rather than wahat some random person has written12:09
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sladenOhzie: yes, works perfectly.  Please file a  bug if GLX doesn't12:09
BassettsOhzie: i installed a few days ago, fresh install, not an upgrade12:09
pgquileshow do I configure locales in console? I've tried dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales but it does not ask me for locale settings, it just regenerates current locales12:09
OhzieBassetts: Some of the packages that are kernel specific didn't update for me whhen I upgraded to that kernel. Specifically, the restricted kernel modules package. I had to update it manually.12:09
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usmanhello to everyone12:09
Ohziesladen: Well, I'm not sure. It might just be my graphics card.12:09
jmspeexfarous: what do you mean "type in the wideless intf"?12:09
BassettsOhzie: i have all the things needed for 68612:09
faroushi usman12:10
jmspeex(eth1 is the wireless)12:10
BassettsOhzie: theres like 5-6 things you have to get if i remember12:10
usmancan any tell me which package is should install to run music files with extention .WMA12:10
sladenOhzie: did you have  linux-image  installed?  or had you installed particular kernel versions yourself  (the meta-package is there is ensure they are upgraded)12:10
faroususman or othman12:10
usman?12:10
OhzieBassetts: Oh okay.12:10
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Bassettssladen: wiki page?12:10
farousjmspeex: open the network manager12:10
sladenOhzie: it is still a bug if it does not work.  try  'glxinfo' | head12:10
Ohziesladen: I hit the mark all updates button, and then I hit apply.12:10
DarkMageZ!tell usman about restrictedformats12:10
sladen!tell Bassetts about usplash12:10
jmspeexfarous: it won't let me open anything12:10
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faroususman nothing for get it12:10
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Ohziesladen: No I'm just having video problems. My graphics card is a ridiculously obscure nvidia model12:11
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farousjmspeex: you are using gnome right12:11
OhzieFX-5650 go12:11
Bassettssladen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto there?12:11
sladenOhzie: yes, but that's a still a bug if it's not working12:11
jmspeexfarous: yes12:11
OhzieAlso, I don't know how to file a bug report.12:11
Bassettssladen: nevermind12:11
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sladenBassetts: nod12:11
farousjmspeex:  give me a min so i login to gnome12:11
Bassettssladen: just saw ubotu after i found the wiki =P12:11
diophello12:12
diop:)12:12
Bassettssladen: ill do what the forum post says to restore the old usplash first =)12:12
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farousjmspeex: so it is the applet right what happen when you click on it12:12
sladenBassetts: yes, might be a good idea :)12:12
Bassettssladen: hehe sure might be12:12
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faroususman sorry thought you are someone i knew12:13
jmspeexfarous: a left click just tells my I've for a wireline connection (which is false)12:13
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diopneed help in connecting my Ralink wireless usb dongle , it's recognized under dapper but impossible to connect12:13
jmspeexfarous: a right click only has the option to "activate network".12:13
farousjmspeex: under support menu12:13
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farouswhat is the connection Name12:13
jmspeexfarous: I think we're talking about different apps...12:14
farousok12:14
smacky_wolfHrm, I usd Automatix and it borked my sound output. How do I go about fixing it?12:14
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Ohzie!bugs12:14
jmspeexfarous: you're talking about the "network monitor" (right?) and I'm talking about the network manager12:14
farousjmspeex: i was talking about network monitor12:14
faroussorry12:15
Bassettssladen: wish me luck =)12:15
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jmspeexfarous: any idea about network manager?12:15
farousjmspeex: frankly i forgot which appl this is as i use the command line most of the time12:16
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farousis it a standard one with ubuntu-desktop12:16
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Bassettssladen: nope, ill try the vga= thing12:17
Awesome-o2000exit12:18
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jmspeexfarous: depends on what you call standard, but I had to apt-get it. It's tied to the big "NetworkManager" thing that uses dbus...12:18
heatxsinkwhat are the minimum requirements for ubuntu to run?12:18
sladenBassetts: what's nope?12:18
jmspeexseems like it's supposed to help manage wireless network connections when you move around multiple access points.12:19
Bassettssladen: nope its not working, still just a black screen12:19
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farousjmspeex: ah remeber it now did not work for me sorry perhaps someone else can help12:19
Frogzoo!tell heatxsink about hardware12:19
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SurfnKidwhere does totem store its settinsg12:20
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farousSurfnKid: better use gconf-editor and scroll down to totem12:21
SurfnKidfarous:  is that the same for xubuntu12:21
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farousSurfnKid: i would assume but am not sure12:22
SurfnKidfarous: it loads, yep12:22
faroustotem is gtk appl12:22
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the_Kanehey12:23
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smacky_wolfHow do I recongfigure my audio device?12:23
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heatxsinki have Frogzoo thanks guys12:23
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the_Kanehey12:24
the_Kanedoes annyone here use DGuitar? im having problems running it12:24
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Sp4rKyhi12:24
Sp4rKyi've a little issue with my new webcam :/12:24
SurfnKidsup Sp4rKy12:24
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Sp4rKyi've installed it with easycam2 but know when i use camorama or ekiga to use it, i just have a black picture12:25
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woyceckhello12:26
woyceckis there somebody who can help me12:27
Sp4rKy!ask12:27
ubotuFor information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:27
goblimeyI have been trying to "Create Archive..." (tar.gz) in nautilus with right click and from Edit menu, but the command is being ignored.  no archive, nothing happening.  This started yesterday when I asked it to work on a number of folders and it took ages before failing.  Sugestions appreciated.12:27
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woycecki uodate from brezzy to dapper and missed the update of the config files12:28
the_KaneQUESTION: when running a java program, i get the error "Exception In Main Thread (plus more stuff below it...)"  what is causing that? ...the required java version is 1.4.X and im on 1.4.2 so im assuming thats not the problem12:28
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nico8481hi12:28
woycecknow i got n only a brown desktop after login12:28
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woyceckis there a way to restart the configuration of the configs12:29
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cheersI just installed ubnutu, and can not access my slave hard drive.  any suggestions?12:30
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the_Kanecheers: you have to mount it12:30
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naloujkdjzd12:30
the_Kanecheers: go to help > windows partitions12:30
[D-Tail] okey!12:30
cheershow do I mount a harddrive?12:30
[D-Tail] I have a Serpentine related question12:30
the_Kane(assuming its windows formated)12:30
naloudou you speake englisn?12:30
[D-Tail] any experts among you?12:30
the_Kane^^12:31
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rene_hello world12:31
[D-Tail] upon pushing the 'burn' button, Serpentine will complain about a certain cache directory not being large enough... how to fix this?12:31
gnube[D-Tail] , Enlarge the cache.12:31
[D-Tail] gnube: I figured so... how to?12:32
[D-Tail] where?12:32
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gnube[D-Tail] , Where does the cache live? On which partition?12:32
[D-Tail] I assume it's on my root partition... but I don't know for sure12:32
gnube[D-Tail] , Did you do an ls -lh on it?12:32
the_Kanecheers: sorted?12:32
[D-Tail] I don't know what kind of cache thing it should be12:32
[D-Tail] is it /tmp?12:32
[D-Tail] is it /var/cache/?12:32
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rokerhi all12:32
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cheerssorry, i'm really new at this, which help menu do I go to, and will I loose files on the drive while mounting it?12:33
the_Kaneoh sorry... its in FAQ12:33
rokerwho can paste me his /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?12:33
gnube[D-Tail] , It most likely is a buffer and/or a file that lives somewhere under the Serpentine directory. I would look at the Serpentine docs.12:33
the_Kaneno you wont lose anything...12:33
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gnube[D-Tail] , Or if there  is a serpentine dot file in your home dir.12:33
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gnubedo this ls -a /home/yourname12:33
gnubeand see if there is a .serpentine file12:34
Ivan|yokCan i use amarok at gnome12:34
[D-Tail] there is, actually... but there's only a playlist.xml file in it12:34
gnuberoker,  Are you drunk?12:34
[D-Tail] it isn't used for cache, I think12:34
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rixthAlright =D New broadband is connected.12:34
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gnube[D-Tail] , grep it for "cache"12:34
smacky_wolfCan someone tell me how to fix my broken audio?12:35
rokergnube why??12:35
gnube[D-Tail] , But I think you are right.12:35
Ivan|yokCan i use amarok at gnome12:35
mundialhow can i run alien utility, to convert rpm to deb12:35
mundial?12:35
[D-Tail] just for the record: my root partition has about 1.7Gigs free, my home partition has 170megs free (I know, I made a too small home partition)12:35
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Awesome-o2000Im using the server install, I would like to know what script I need to alter to set the dnsdomainname. Im trying to use my foo.no-ip.com, and im pretty sure I have it set up properly in /etc/hosts, but when I type in dnsdomainname it just gives me no-ip.com12:35
gnuberoker, apache.conf can have sensitive info, someone is not just going to share theirs with you verbatim.12:35
farousmundial: use alien as last resort search for deb or source first12:35
[D-Tail] but you know, this problem has been occurring as of my upgrade to Dapper... which was yesterday12:35
gnubeAwesome-o2000, Do (as root) hostname foo.ip.com12:36
Awesome-o2000and im not liking the bitchx keyboard shortcuts, it doesnt give me a delete button12:36
rokergnube i wanted the base file12:36
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Awesome-o2000gnube ive done that - but dnsdomainname still gives me no-ip.com only12:36
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gnuberoker, ah. DId you search on your system? It may still be there. Do a 'locate apache.conf'12:36
rokergnube I deleted it12:37
the_Kanecheers: is it mounted?12:37
gnubeAwesome-o2000, Oh I see, you want it to give you the _sub_ domain name.12:37
smacky_wolfEverything is broken and I'm going to cry.12:37
gnubeAwesome-o2000, Why?12:37
gnuberoker, apt-get install apache212:37
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MatthewvMetaMorfoziS, no problems12:37
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[D-Tail] currently, my /var/cache is 156MB full... is that a problem?12:37
gnuberoker, that will re-install the latest apache.12:37
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rokergnube, I've already removed and installed apache but the file is already blank12:37
Warbo[D-Tail] : You can clean downloaded packages out of there with "sudo apt-get clean"12:38
MetaMorfoziSMatthewv: yes, it's work! thx!:)12:38
gnuberoker, What exactly are you trying to do? Dtart and run apache?12:38
[D-Tail] Warbo; the apt dir is clean already12:38
Awesome-o2000gnube if I knew that I wouldnt be asking you12:38
cheerssorry I'm so slow at this, but where is the FAQ?12:38
Warbo[D-Tail] : OK12:38
[D-Tail] there is like 140MB in cache/archive-copier/ship12:38
gnubeAwesome-o2000, Why do you want to see the subdomain name?12:38
the_KaneQUICK QUESTION: to upgrade to dapper, do you have to download the whole OS or just a few needed files?12:38
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Warbo[D-Tail] : Ermm, OK (I don't know what that is :))12:39
gnube[D-Tail] , No, that should not be a problem.12:39
DarkMageZthe_Kane, almost the whole os12:39
[D-Tail] Warbo: it's chinese to me too :-P12:39
the_Kanecheers: lol in Help > Frequantly Asked Questions > Windows Partitions12:39
gnube[D-Tail] , do a df -h what do you get?12:39
smacky_wolfHow can I reconfigure my audio dev ices? Somebody, pleaxse?12:39
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[D-Tail] the Serpentine error Dialog is a big mystery to me too12:39
gnubesmacky_wolf, What do you want specifically?12:39
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Awesome-o2000gnube I just want it to work properly when I use the server for things, I'd prefer not to have to configure the domainname for each app individually, its easiest to set it right in the system and let the apps do their defaults, IMHO12:39
[D-Tail] gnube: want to have the full list?12:40
[D-Tail] I got a lot of partitions...12:40
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Awesome-o2000I dont neccesarily need to see it12:40
smacky_wolfI want to remove ALSA and every other stupid damn driver automatix installed and go back to OSS12:40
the_KaneDarkMageZ: So a dial-up user such as myself, would have to wait for Shipit.Ubuntu to start shipping...?12:40
[D-Tail] /dev/hda1             6,9G  4,9G  1,7G  75% /12:40
[D-Tail] /dev/hda12            508M  310M  171M  65% /home12:40
smacky_wolfOr just select OSS as my fdriver12:40
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[D-Tail] those are the most important, I think12:40
Hattoriif in gnome session (not xgl) i can't see window border, what can be? (i can see them in gnome backup session)..12:40
Warbosmacky_wolf: What version of Ubuntu are you using? I don't think there is one that uses OSS12:40
Celestarhm12:40
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smacky_wolf6.0612:40
Angel_Dexo.o12:40
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Celestarthis ipmi stuff works .. weirdly12:40
smacky_wolfMy machin uses OSS becvause I have an NFORCE soundcard12:41
Hattoriif in gnome session (not xgl) i can't see window border, what can be? (i can see them in gnome failsafe)..12:41
Warbosmacky_wolf: ALSA has replaced OSS a few years ago12:41
DarkMageZthe_Kane, yeah, some of us resort to going to work, and hooking our systems upto the 100mbit line there12:41
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starmanCan someone tell me what I need, and where i can get it from, -to watch DVD-movies with for example Okle?12:41
gnubeAwesome-o2000, Yes, but that does not mean it is not set. A subdomain is usually a directory on your machine, not the machine's name12:41
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Angel_DexWho doesnt like 6.06?12:41
SkrufHey guys. How come there are no updates available when I run dist-upgrade in 6.06? Have they frozen everything?12:41
rokerguys I deleted the contents of apache.conf how can I fix this problem?12:41
the_KaneDarkMageZ: lol what about school..? :P12:41
SytrI can't use amarok in gnome is it normal????12:41
gnube[D-Tail] , Is one of them very full?12:41
Frogzoostarman: totem-xine or gxine is easiest12:41
Warbo!dvd12:41
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)12:41
Frogzoostarman: also vlc some like12:41
gnubeI use VLC, very good.12:42
chavoHattori, did you install kubuntu-desktop?12:42
[D-Tail] the serpentine error dialog says something like 'not enough free space in the cache folder' and 'delete some songs and check whether your cache folder has enough free space (363.4MBytes)'12:42
WarboSytr: What happens when you run it?12:42
Matthewvroker, is there a backup about?12:42
Angel_DexWho doesnt like 6.06? Anyone? Plz all my badger brothas speakl up o.o12:42
Matthewvroker, many editors will automatically create a backup12:42
DarkMageZthe_Kane, hmm, break into a local wireless network, and download the dapper iso and burn it?12:42
rokerMatthewv, no there's not12:42
[D-Tail] gnube: the only partition which is for >80% full is my video partition...12:42
DarkMageZthe_Kane, or, download the iso @ school and burn it :)12:42
Matthewvroker, how did you delete it?12:42
[D-Tail] every other partition has about several gigs free12:42
farousAngel_Dex: lol i for one mis badger a lot12:42
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SytrWarbo: always next song next song(sorry bad english)12:42
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rokerMatthewv,  sudo rm etc...12:42
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FrogzooAngel_Dex: ruby has problems, some USB printers are currently unusable, some multiverse apps have bugs - but otherwise Dapper's pretty solid & recommended12:42
MatthewvAngel_Dex, dapper has a few bugs, but i definitely prefer it to breezy12:43
Matthewvroker, ooohhh12:43
Bassettssladen: i tried vga=773 and still no luck12:43
SurfnKidnite all thanx for the help12:43
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the_KaneDarkMageZ: im the only one in my area with wireless, and will take to long at school :D lol ill ask a friend ;)12:43
WarboSytr: Hmm. I have had no real problems with Amarok (It occasionaly crashed when I gave it too much to do)12:43
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starmanok! Thanks guys!12:43
rokerMatthewv, ???12:43
pianoboy3333Is holding alt and using the number pad for ascii characters a windows thing?12:43
Angel_Dexfarous Frogzoo Matthewv I dont how they Dumbed down alot of it tho Pluz why the hell did everything in my system tools menu go Ba Bye12:43
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nico8481Sytr: do you have an engine defined in the settings?12:44
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WarboSytr: If you are interested in a GNOME player like Amarok then you could try Banshee (it is in Ubuntu) or the one I have started to use called Listen12:44
the_KaneDarkMageZ: how big is the ISO ?12:44
[D-Tail] I am clueless :?12:44
MatthewvAngel_Dex, everything seemed to stay there for me12:44
DarkMageZthe_Kane, under 700mb, it will take about 25 hours on dial-up12:44
SytrWarbo: which libs i have to install12:44
pianoboy3333OOH!! BANSHEE!!! GO BANSHEE!!!12:44
Angel_DexMatthewv i only got 2 things in it now TT_TT12:44
recoverOk, I finally managed to get mail working to my computer, but when I type reply in the "mail" program I can type a reply, but how do I send it off? The only way I seem to be able to get from typing a reply is by killing with ^C two times. Anyone know?12:44
WarboSytr: I know Banshee uses gstreamer and mono12:44
MatthewvAngel_Dex, are you the admin user or not?12:45
sladenbassetts: yes, I told you that vga= wouldn't work12:45
Angel_DexMatthewv Yush i am the only user and the admin12:45
SytrWarbo: thx i'm trying12:45
WarboSytr: With Amarok, do you have the right codecs installed (are they installed automatically?)12:45
DarkMageZthe_Kane, 35 hours :P, i'd suggest trying to get adsl12:45
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MatthewvAngel_Dex, are you a member of the admin group? i know dapper will hide most of that menu for users who are not12:45
the_KaneDarkMageZ: thanks, ill find a broadband line ;)12:45
cwillumy mouse broke;  I was attempting to play vegastrike, but it was unplayable (mouse moved every 10 seconds or so);  I killed vega from another machine, x itself seems to be working fine (I'm on it right now), but the mouse is frozen (replugging didn't fix)12:45
sladenthe_Kane: get the net-isntall iso12:45
Angel_DexMatthewv Yush i am! x.x12:46
the_Kanesladen: whats that?12:46
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Warbocwillu: Try restarting GDM (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart) from a console12:46
sladenthe_Kane: a 30MB iso images to just install the base and then let you install-as-you-go after that12:46
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cwilluI'd really really prefer not to restart x12:46
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Angel_DexFrogzoo, Why do you no like dapper? i think its Dumbed down alot12:46
OhzieAngel_Dex: Dumbed down how so?12:47
PFAhow do i get wma support for xmms? i tried the steps given on the ubuntu wiki but it gave me a 404 error12:47
sladencwillu: try starting vegatstrike again and quiting properly12:47
FrogzooAngel_Dex: you misread me - I like it, there are some known problems, I'm assuming they'll be fixed in time12:47
Matthewvroker, sry, but from what i can say undelete is not easy on ext312:47
cwillurestarting gdm is basically the same as the typical windows fix of "reboot your machine, it'll fix it"  :)12:47
sladencwillu: that may clear it up12:47
Angel_DexOhzie The menus and Gui feel just alittle dumbed down to me12:47
cwilluI'd try it, but when I say, moved the mouse and it updated every 10 seconds, I meant the main menu :)12:47
WarboPFA: You may find the "cypherfunk" repository from Google or in the Ubuntu forums. I think that has WMA packages in it12:47
Angel_DexFrogzoo wrong guy the one who agreed started with a F also12:47
cheersthe_Kane: this is my first day on ubunutu - I've gone to every help menu I can find and I can't find a FAQ section.  Am I looking online, or in a help menu within ubunutu?  Thanks for your help by the way...12:47
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the_Kanesladen: can you please go into more detail with this? im interested...12:47
OhzieAngel_Dex: Again, how so? I don't understand what you mean.12:48
FrogzooAngel_Dex: np12:48
Angel_Dexfarous ok why doYOU hate Dapper XD lol i got the right guy this time12:48
the_Kanecheers: well ill just be your help.. :P12:48
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sladenthe_Kane: stick "ubuntu net install" into google12:48
the_Kanecheers: go to System : Administration : Disks12:48
the_Kanesladen: thanks ;)12:48
farousAngel_Dex: not as stable as breezy. and packages i work with are broken12:48
PFAWarbo: thank you12:48
sladenthe_Kane: the images are on the mirrors, along with the main CDs12:48
Angel_DexOhzie The menus some of the words changed the shut down Menu isnt the check mark box its like a XP shut down menu12:49
farousAngel_Dex: to many change and need to spend time configuring again :(12:49
OhzieAhh.12:49
Angel_Dexfarous yeah it uninstalled a few of my packs12:49
Angel_Dexfarous Oh and yulp it defualted everything too on mine12:49
the_Kanecheers: done that?12:49
farousold config files did not work as xorg7 changed their dir structure12:50
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WarboHas anyone used the Listen media player?12:50
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Awesome-o2000nice, so far so good12:50
Angel_Dexfarous well they are bastards for that XD12:50
Awesome-o2000if I get brave i'll try out xgl - im assuming xgl doesnt come standard?12:50
farousso anyway it is better as in newer packages but hmm i miss stability12:50
Frogzoo!tell Awesome-o2000 about xgl12:50
cheersyes...12:50
sladenAwesome-o2000: you can install xgl12:50
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Frogzoofarous: breezy initially wasn't completely stable either...12:51
Angel_Dexfarous know what man i think im gonna go back to 5.10 and just stay one Version behind now12:51
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the_Kanecheers: on the left column, select your slave drive and then click partitions12:51
Awesome-o2000sladen I wonder if an extreme thing like in gentoo for now12:51
Awesome-o2000I tell you I can't wait till thats stable on gentoo12:51
cheersdone...12:51
Angel_DexFrogzoo is there a way to keep my old shut down menu? i really really dont like the XP feel of the new one12:51
farousFrogzoo: frankly i do not remember perhaps i did not have to many tweeks in it12:51
sladenAwesome-o2000: "extereme thing" ?12:52
WarboAwesome-o2000: The only problems I have had with XGL are 1) anything else 3D (like games) screws up or goes really slow and 2) the root window isn't used, so ChBg doesn't change my background12:52
the_Kanecheers: ill pm you...12:52
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nico8481Angel_Dex: don't want to try debian stable? :o)12:52
farousbut with dapper i will not upgrade at least for one or two years12:52
kroizis there a dapper livecd?12:52
[D-Tail] mmm12:52
[D-Tail] I think I've found <a> solution now...12:52
Warbofarous: Then Edgy and Edgy+1 will be out12:52
[D-Tail] I'm using GnomeBaker right now, which seems to work12:52
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[D-Tail] that one uses /tmp/ for  converts12:52
farousWarbo: i care more about stability now12:52
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farousWarbo: whatever few programs i need the latest ver i will compile from source as i do not12:53
farousnow12:53
Warbofarous: Fair enough12:53
Matthewvkroiz, yes, the desktop cd is the live cd, it is now the standard cd for installing ubuntu12:53
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Angel_DexWho agrees with me that they should leave the GUI and menus alone? and not dumb them down for new users? OR make an option during a update wether tochange them or not?12:54
kroizoh great, thanks matthew12:54
WarboAngel_Dex: I don't know if the menus have been dumbed down. The System Tools is gradually going, which is a good sign12:54
the_Kanecheers: in the terminal, type : sudo mkdir /media/Harddrive212:54
farousAngel_Dex: luckly i use fluxbox mainly which i have my own menu for12:54
MatthewvAngel_Dex, maybe a good idea, but the amount of users that want options during install for various things like ui changes and all..... it would make an install last over an hour getting through the options12:54
Hattoriif in gnome session (not xgl) i can't see window border, what can be? (i can see them in gnome failsafe)..12:54
cristianohi people, i know this might not be the right place to ask, but anybody knows how to make kicker re-appear after suddenly disappearing from screen?12:54
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[D-Tail] thanks anyways, gnube & companions :-)12:55
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WarboHattori: Your window manager isn't running. GNOME uses Metacity for a window manager12:55
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Angel_DexMatthewv Not so at all they could have a option list at the very begining what to update what not to check the box's you wanna update12:55
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cheersdone...12:55
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MatthewvAngel_Dex, were you wondering where Applications --> System Tools had gone?12:55
farousAngel_Dex: instal debian menu12:55
WarboAngel_Dex: "sudo apt-get install menu"12:56
Awesome-o2000what dir does squirrelmail usually open up as in ubuntu?12:56
gnube[D-Tail] , sorry I wasn't more help.12:56
portjinxheylo folks12:56
Angel_DexMatthewv yeah my menu went POOF and my shutdown menu is stupifyed with a XP feel12:56
the_Kanecheers: now in the Disks Manager, click the Change button to select a diretory, and select the folder you just made... then click enable ;)12:56
HattoriWarbo: how to fix?12:56
[D-Tail] gnube: np -- I'm happy enough already ^_^12:56
portjinxim from scotland living in london anyone wanna talk12:56
[D-Tail] I'll try cleanly re-installing Serpentine...m aybe some previous settings were bugging the process...12:56
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Angel_DexWarbo didnt do nothing12:56
ompaul!offtopic12:57
MatthewvAngel_Dex, for me that menu has disappeared totally, i thought you were talking about System --> Administration (sry) but most of the things in it have been farmed out to other menus12:57
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!12:57
Warboportjinx: This is for Ubuntu support. Go to off topic for chat12:57
Frogzooportjinx: wrong chan m812:57
portjinxsoz12:57
ompaulportjinx, - please use #ubuntu-offtopic12:57
farousAngel_Dex: there is another package give me a min12:57
ompaulportjinx, its there for that purpose12:57
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raphaHi all!12:57
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HattoriWarbo: how to fix?12:57
MatthewvAngel_Dex, and the few things that have disappeared totally can easily be reenabled by editin gthe mensu12:57
raphaDoes somebody know whether the live CD works on Intel Macs?12:57
Awesome-o2000there doesnt seem to be any kind of manual entries for squirrelmail either12:57
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Angel_DexMatthewv i was honestly thinking of wiping my HD and installing 5.10 then doing what i need to do and make a custom CD tho i still have no concept of wtf a custom CD alows to be custums12:58
dibblegohow do you change the default application that opens certain file types?12:58
farousinstall meny-xdg Angel_Dex then run update-menus12:58
Healotrapha: it/s intel CPU anyways12:58
WarboHattori: If you can run a command (alt-f2?) then run "metacity --replace"12:58
Frogzoodibblego: right click -> properties12:58
MatthewvAngel_Dex, a custom cd allows you to customize the filesystem that is zapped onto the live cd, thats all i think12:58
raphaHealot: yes, but with an EFI BIOS.12:58
HattoriWarbo: in a terminal?12:58
HattoriWarbo: can't do via ssh right?12:58
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WarboHattori: In a terminal, deskbar, "run" dialog, anything which will let you run a command, as long as it is in X (ie. NOT ctrl-alt-f1)12:59
Angel_DexMatthewv Idk i really want to make my own settings and everything12:59
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WarboHattori: From a console you would need to put "DISPLAY=localhost:0" first I think12:59
dibblegothanks12:59
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the_Kanecheers: is it mounted?12:59
Healotrapha: try... maybe ubuntu has EFI supprt?01:00
Angel_DexFrogzoo, Hey Do you know much about custom CDs?01:00
MatthewvAngel_Dex, i think you can, although you might need a quite indepth knowledge of the fs arrangements, as customizing a live cd basically gives you a terminal iwth the fs that will go on the cd, and you can then change what you want through the terminal, but thats it... no gui to see what will happen :(01:00
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Angel_DexMatthewv Im to Noobalishus for that TT_TT01:00
raphaHealot: you can get it to work with some fiddling when you install it on-disk. I just wanted to know if I could get myself a life-CD and walk in an Apple store and put it in. Don't wanna do that without knowing whether it'll work :)01:01
MatthewvAngel_Dex, I couldn't do it properly atm01:01
Warborapha: I think you need to use elilo for EFI. I don't think the CD has it by default, but you can install it on an Ubuntu installation (installing in the first place would be tricky though)01:01
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HattoriWarbo: unable to open X display, using ssh...01:01
MatthewvAngel_Dex, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomization/Dapper01:01
Angel_DexNUUU01:02
Angel_DexNot dapper01:02
Angel_Dexbreezy01:02
HattoriWarbo: unable to open X display, using ssh... with sudo metacity  DISPLAY=localhost:0 --replace01:02
Matthewvsry... Angel_Dex https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomization01:02
Warborapha: Do you have access to an Intel Mac? I would not rely on a homebrew method, even if it SEEMS foolproof :)01:02
Matthewvanyway Angel_Dex i gtg, I'll bbl so cya and good luck01:02
Healotbtw, rapha: the live CD boot loader is grub... i guess no go on Intel's Mac01:02
Angel_DexMatthewv thanks later01:02
farousHattori: ssh -X username@host01:02
_Hug[o] _How can I check the version of a package using apt-cache search?01:03
WarboHattori: OK, with the DISPLAY I meant run that first, to tell the console that it should use an X session for the display, then run metacity. That would be done as "DISPLAY=localhost:0 && metacity --replace"01:03
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WarboI have to go, I've got a maths exam in an hour. Bye01:04
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Hattorifarous: still same error: unable to open X display01:04
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farousHattori: strange did you use -X capital letter not a small one01:05
_Hug[o] _After I install an eggdrop, where do I have to put the eggdrop.conf file?01:05
Hattoriyes i did01:05
faroushave no idea than Hattori01:05
cheersKane, still there?  I think it is mounted, but that I don't have permission...01:05
Frogzoo_Hug[o] _: dpkg -l pkgname01:05
Hattori:\01:06
cheersKane, still there?  I think it is mounted, but that I don't have permission...01:06
farousHattori: you are doing that from a pc that is running X right01:06
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gnubeHattori, Is the X server running on the remote machine?01:06
sladenthe_Kane: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso01:06
Hattorifarous: ehm... lol01:06
farouslol01:06
Hattorignube: yes01:06
Hattorieheh01:06
sladengnube: the X /server/is running on the local amachine01:07
Hattoriok, i will go downstair and type that on the X machine eheh01:07
recoverI got my mail working in two directions but now there is a "mbox" file in my home folder storing all my mails... can I get it to be ".mbox" somehow?!01:07
k31thyo, now LTS is out should i change my sources ? atm there all using dapper mirrors01:07
k31this that still ok?01:07
the_Kanesladen: thanks :) is there a link with information about it?01:07
gnubeHattori, What does .xsession-errors say?01:07
sladenHealot: yes, Ubuntu runs on the Mactels.  But currently we can't install since they only boot from HFS+01:07
gnubek31th, LTS is dapper on the server.01:07
Frogzoohow to get the clock applet to start the week from Monday ?01:08
the_Kanecheers: what file format is it (please write   the_Kane: before you type something, its easier for me to se)01:08
Hattorignube: a lot of: ** (nautilus:6363): CRITICAL **: fm_icon_container_get_icon_text_attributes_from_preferences: assertion `eel_string_list_get_length01:08
Hattori...Too much output, ignoring rest...01:08
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raphaWarbo: there's two VERY good installation instruction pages available. Anyways, I've been a long-time LFS veteran so I won't be afraid of a little fiddling-around :-) -- just wanted to know if the LiveCD could do it w/o mods.01:09
Healotnot even with grub2 or elilo, sladen01:09
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raphasladen: do you own a Mactel?01:09
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_Hug[o] _I wonder why locate doesn't work here =/01:09
cheersthe_Kane:  I'm not sure, is there a way to find out?01:10
sladenrapha: no, mjg59 did the porting work.01:10
_Hug[o] _I try locate eggdrop for example, it doesn't work01:10
Hattori_Hug[o] _:updatedb before locate01:10
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sladenHealot: elilo is used;  but you have to get it on the  machine first;  this can be done using 'refit' from a USB key01:10
raphasladen: any idea whether the current LiveCD builds will boot on a MacBook?01:10
Angel_Dexyeah01:10
Angel_Dexthats it01:10
rixthIs there a frontend to cron?01:10
Angel_Dexback to 5.10 for me01:11
Angel_Dexfreaking dapper01:11
k31thlol01:11
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cheersthe_Kane:  Windows NTFS01:11
Frogzoorixth: crontab -e          (& set your EDITOR env variable)01:11
the_Kanecheers: in Disks Manager, select your hard drive (where you enabled it) and it will say Filesystem: above the directory where you mounted it01:11
sladenrapha: Ubuntu will run on them;  but will not boot (except with BootCamp)01:11
farousAngel_Dex: you just wiped out everything01:11
rixthFrogzoo, GUI?01:11
sladenrapha: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/58934.html01:11
farousfresh install?01:11
Angel_Dexfarous hum?01:11
Frogzoorixth: nope01:11
DarthMorlocklo all01:12
cheersthe_Kane:  Windows NTFS01:12
Bassettssladen: no matter what i do it wont work =(01:12
sladenrapha: the Mactel-linux people have a modifiedUbuntu install built with the MacOSX utilities01:12
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sladenBassetts: as I asked, please send me the exact list of commands you have typed01:12
Healotrapha: have you tried the Windows XP x64 yet01:12
Bassettsok, didnt see that sladen01:12
sladenBassetts: did you manage to get back to the original usplash image?01:12
Healotit support EFI and GUID partitions01:12
raphaHealot: I won't get myself within 50 feet of a Windows CD anymore :-P01:12
Bassettsyes sladen01:13
rixthFrogzoo, gnome-schedule =D01:13
raphasladen: but what about the LiveCD? Can I grab it and walk into an Apple Shop to try it out? I wanna buy a new laptop and can't decide between a new MacBook or an older PowerBook G4 17" (better for programming work) off eBay01:13
Frogzoorixth: nice01:13
farousBassetts: you can boot without a splash image. how long does it appear on your pc and howlong did you spend to tweekit?01:13
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cheersthe_Kane:  the exact message I get is "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "Harddrive2"."01:13
Angel_DexFrogzoo have you made a custom Cd befor?01:13
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farousAngel_Dex: did you make a fresh install of breezy? for i am tempted01:14
_Hug[o] _How can I extract files that end with .gz?01:14
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pianoboy3333Why isn't the xubuntu logo in the Examples folder on the desktop cd?01:14
Bassettsfarous: i dont get what you mean01:14
Angel_Dexfarous i will soon not now tho i need to back up a gig of data first01:14
Bassettssladen: http://rafb.net/paste/results/2bRzZo68.html01:14
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Bassettssladen: i forgot to add i added vga=791 into grub then updated it01:15
Angel_Dexfarous i think im gonna get a lightscribe CD make a custom Breezy CD with all my siznatch on it just incase i ever wish to jump back to 5.10 when like 7 comes out XD01:15
sladenBassetts: ignoring the vga= thing.  what errors to you get from running those commands?01:15
Bassettssladen: none01:16
farousBassetts: seems i am too sleepy now take care all time to split01:16
samuIs ubuntuguide.org still frowned upon in here?01:16
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farousAngel_Dex: good luck01:16
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sladenBassetts: what does  sud update-alternatives --list usplash-artwork.so  say01:16
the_Kanecheers: sorry, i dont know how to enable permissions on NTFS, my slave is vFAT01:16
the_Kanecheers: unless you can convert it without formating... ? but you would have to ask a more advanced user01:16
Hattorigreat, metacity --replace fixed that!01:17
cheersthe_Kane:  Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!01:17
raphasladen: Aaaah found the CD link now -- thanks! :)01:17
Angel_Dexfarous i will fail trust me XP you gonna reinstall yourself?01:17
the_Kanecheers: your welcome ;)01:18
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Bassettssladen: ill paste into pm01:18
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triceratopsHow will drivemount-applet show an icon for unmounted devices? Since Dapper only for mounted drives icons are shown. It's a bit anoying because there is nothing to see from drivemount-applet in the panel. I accidental / occassionally noticed this behaviour whilst I added three drivemount applets to the panel.01:19
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pianoboy3333I really, really need hard drive help, I'm desperate, please please, can someone help me? I think I mortally screwed my ubuntu partition, I meant to install xubuntu on an external, but it seems to have installed over my main partition, Fujitsu was helping me before and we had started using autopsy to try, but he had to leave, so I need someone else to help finish! I really, really need extreme help, take a look at01:19
pianoboy3333http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=112690501:19
J_Phi all01:19
kbrookspianoboy3333: urgency is rude01:19
pianoboy3333sorry01:20
kbrookspianoboy3333: no one here is paid to help you or me01:20
pianoboy3333ok.... and?01:20
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Angel_Dexfarous i will fail trust me XP you gonna reinstall yourself?01:21
FaithXpianoboy3333: did you have a backup of your data?01:22
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raphaAny PowerBook G4 users here?01:22
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rubenHi, I can use nvdia driver if I have a VIA K8N800 chipset?01:24
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Healotwhat ever chipset you have as you as you have an NV graphics accelerator01:25
rubenHealot: yes, now I use vesa, but I think that is not good idea01:26
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rapharuben: that's only a bad idea if you don't want any 3D :-)01:29
Protocol1is there any good secuity programs for ubuntu?01:29
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Protocol1like an antivirus program for example?01:29
SubhumanProtocol1, with linux antivirus is not so nessesary01:30
Bassettssladen: back, pm01:30
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SubhumanProtocol1, you might want a good firewall, i suggest "firestarter"01:30
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Protocol1ok01:30
SubhumanProtocol1,01:30
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Subhumanare you new to linux?01:31
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Protocol1been using ubuntu for 6 months01:31
Protocol1linux since 200201:31
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Angel_DexI LOVE BREEZY01:32
Angel_DexI HATE DAPPER01:32
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Angel_Dexo.o!01:32
Protocol1dapper rules01:32
Angel_DexNope01:32
Angel_Dexo.o01:32
Protocol1breezy drools01:32
Angel_DexNOOoOOO!01:32
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Healotjust a matter of release01:32
Angel_Dexim sticking with 5.1001:33
Angel_Dexfor along time01:33
nominI just upgraded to dapper and now X doesn't work.  I have an nVidia Geforce 4 (64MB).  Is there a command I type to configure the X window system?01:33
TigerWolfdapper ftw!01:33
Angel_DexFTW>01:34
Angel_Dex?01:34
Bassettssladen: what next?01:34
MenZaAngel_Dex: for the win01:34
Angel_DexNUUUUU01:35
Angel_DexBreezy!01:35
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monteiroAngel_Dex : why you hate dapper ?01:35
naranhaopengl works fine with fglrxdrivers, however in a splitscreen setup opengl apps get misaligned. http://81.210.189.159/ati.png any idea what causes this to happen?01:35
TigerWolfftw = for the win (meaning good)01:35
mbentzenurbandictionary it01:36
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Angel_Dexmonteiro just i dont like it much i dontlike the shut down menu i hate that theyare getting rid of system tools it defualted alota my settings most of the things  just i dont like01:36
Angel_Dexscreensaver window i dont like01:36
Angel_Dexthe splashscreen window ither01:37
webmindok, this time firefox -did- remove my bookmarks01:37
monteiroAngel_Dex : most of that things you can change it01:37
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Angel_Dexmonteiro how?01:37
Protocol1nomin, I did upgrade to dapper too from breezy and a had a few kinks....then I did a clean dapper install and vola01:37
monteiroAngel_Dex : gconf01:37
mbentzenclean install ftw!01:37
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murunwahello01:38
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Angel_Dexmonteiro where tho?01:38
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naranhais there an ati driver linuxchannel on freenode?01:39
Protocol1of course I would backup all your important documents or files before doing a re-installation01:39
Healot!ati01:39
ubotufrom memory, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers01:39
Healotlike that :)01:39
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monteiroAngel_Dex : apps / gnome-session / and you see a field with the way to the splash image01:39
naranha:)01:40
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webmindit seems to happen somewhere in the extension checker btw01:42
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webmindthis crashes.. and then it kinda gives a clean profile01:42
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Bassettssladen?01:43
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nominwhat command do I type in to configure X in Dapper?01:46
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Healotthe same as the previous versiob01:46
Healot"sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"01:47
rixxoncan i manually set what format sound juicer rips to, or is there some package which lets me rename mp3s based on their id3 tags?01:47
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Healotlame does that01:47
Healotwell LAME01:47
Healotplus libid3tag01:47
nominHealot: I will try that.01:48
rixxonHealot: i mean massrename a number of mp3s to a specific format, based on their id301:48
rixxonif you meant me ...01:48
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ubuntuhow can install dapper using the good old text installer01:49
Healotmass rename,,, i think thre is a mass file rename package01:49
Healotcan't remember the package name though01:49
rixxoni'll try apt-cache search01:50
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rixxonHealot: or maybe there's a better ripper? i like sound juicer but it is too stripped!01:51
HealotCD audio to mp3/ogg converter...01:51
HealotI suggest Winamp LOL01:51
rixxonno thank you :P01:51
monteirorixxon : grip01:51
Healotno... I mean xmms+LAME01:51
rixxonHealot: oh01:52
Healoti just love LAME, so biased when it comes to MP301:52
rixxonmonteiro: i'll try01:52
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monteirorixxon : i use grip always01:53
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thirdalbumI just popped in to ask: Does anyone have or know of a gDesklet that monitors how many people are connected to you through Apache?01:54
gnomefreakthirdalbum: there isnt one i dont think01:54
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thirdalbumI did a quick Google but I couldn't see one01:55
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thirdalbumIs there any other way to actually monitor how many people are connected?01:55
rixxonmonteiro: which encoder? there are many mp3 ones01:55
monteirorixxon : lame01:56
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rixxonmonteiro: thanks01:56
monteirorixxon : np01:57
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kenashi01:57
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kenascan anyone tell me whts the major difference between dapper 6.06 and breezy 5.10 ??01:58
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Hexidigital_kenas:: it newer01:58
kenasyeah..01:58
kenasand..01:59
Hexidigital_kenas:: be more specific... differences in what aspect? desktop or server?01:59
kenas???01:59
kenasserver01:59
Healotubuntu.com explains it all01:59
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Hexidigital_kenas:: imo, it cleaner than breezy01:59
kenasdesktop will not help01:59
nominare there video issues with Dapper and nVidia?  I still can't get X to work.  I'm using BitchX in a terminal right now.  Anyone have advice for me?01:59
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Hexidigital_kenas:: and it dosent complain as much (to me)02:00
kenasok02:00
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kenasi have upgraded breezy02:00
kenasbut now most of my software installed doesnt run02:00
kenasany help for this ?02:00
mathieu_kenas: what about being more specific?02:01
kenasOpenOffice doesnt work02:01
kenasVMWare doesnt work02:01
kenasSamba stopped working as welll02:02
mathieu_openoffice 1 or 2?02:02
mathieu_vmware: you need to recompile the modules02:02
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Hexidigital_kenas:: how did you upgrade? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?02:02
kenasi reinstalled openoffice 2 and now it works.. but vmware doesnt02:02
nominis it best to do a fresh install instead of upgrading breezy to dapper?02:02
mathieu_kenas: you recompiled vmware modules?02:02
kenasdist-upgrade02:02
starmanMy Nicotine just crashed completely and won't open again even though I rebooted the system...02:03
Hexidigital_kenas:: did you change your repos ?02:03
kenashave to check repos02:03
kenashow can i recompile the modules of VmWare ?02:03
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mathieu_kenas: run vmware in the command line.. it will tell you02:03
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mathieu_kenas: have you checked the samba logs? did you try to start in manually?02:05
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kenasno i havent02:07
kenaswait i am into it..02:07
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munckfishHi, can anyone recommend a decent graphical file/directory diffing tool? I'd prefer to stay with something non-kde if poss. I'm looking for this as part of my migration from Windows where I've become quite used to having WinMerge's context menu item available for quickly diffing directories/files. I'm about to have a look at fldiff02:07
starmanWhat to do if Nicotine crashes completely and won't open again even though I rebooted the system? The Nicotine window appears but doesn't answer or connect.02:08
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Healotbuy a new pack of cigarette ")02:08
EmxBAhi02:08
EmxBA!apt02:08
ubotufrom memory, apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto02:08
rixxonwhatever i do i just *cant* browse the cd, i rightclick + browse folder, and sound juicer shows up!02:08
EmxBAor !repos02:08
EmxBA!repos02:08
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.02:08
EmxBA!easysource02:09
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:09
EmxBAtnx for smart bot :D02:09
kenask02:09
kenasvmware gives me this02:09
kenaswhile i am reconfiguring it02:10
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kenasWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?02:10
Hexidigital_kenas:: did you install the headers?02:10
Hexidigital_kenas:: do this02:10
Hexidigital_kenas:: in terminal, run uname-r02:10
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Hexidigital_trying to find package, hold please02:11
kenasnext ?02:11
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Hexidigital_kenas:: sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-{uname-r_output}02:12
LoveAndSexhello: i need java on my linux box!02:12
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maxyvitshi guys02:12
Hexidigital_ubotu:: tell LoveAndSex about java02:12
maxyvitsquick question about gmail notifier in ubuntu02:12
Healot!java02:12
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs02:12
gnomefreakmaxyvits: ask02:13
Hexidigital_Healot:: beat ya! :)02:13
LoveAndSex!javadebs02:13
ubotuIn Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse02:13
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maxyvitsI don't understand the check interval number02:13
maxyvitsIt is set to default "20000"02:14
maxyvitswhat does that mean?02:14
gnomefreakmaxyvits: thats how long it waits to check it02:14
maxyvits20000 what?02:14
gnomefreak20,000 secs02:14
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LoveAndSextnx Healot02:14
LoveAndSextnx Hexidigital_02:14
Hexidigital_LoveAndSex:: no problem :)02:14
maxyvitswhy doesn't it do something simpler like minutes?02:14
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Hexidigital_maxyvits:: in case you want a 30 second refresh?02:15
gnomefreakmaxyvits: that is up to who wrote it to make it mins or sec or hours02:15
Rivercan someone please point me to a wiki for network printing in ubuntu 602:15
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Hexidigital_!cups02:15
maxyvitsok, thanks!02:15
ubotucups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/02:15
erichHi. I have an old pre-sarge (I think, at most sarge) system, and I'd like to upgrade it to dapper. Can I just dist-upgrade or install ubuntu-desktop? There was not much installed and it wasn't heavily used, so it should be mostly defaults anyway.02:15
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gnomefreakerich: i wouldnt02:15
Hexidigital_erich:: youre better off installing fresh02:16
Healotubuntu's dependencies != Debian dependencies02:16
gnomefreakerich: i would do a clean install cross platform upgrading is not a good idea02:16
maxyvitsso if I want it to check every 3 mins I just enter 180 in the field?02:16
Healotshort ubuntu != debian02:16
Hexidigital_maxyvits:: yes02:16
kenas sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-{uname-r_output} <--- wht is the output ??02:16
gnomefreakmaxyvits: in theroy yes02:16
maxyvitsthanks Hex!02:16
Hexidigital_kenas:: whatever appeared when you typed in uname-r in terminal02:16
Hexidigital_maxyvits:: np02:16
DBOkenas, type uname -r in console02:17
erichHealot: you might have noticed my vhost.02:17
kenask02:17
Healot"sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-$(uname -r)" is enough02:17
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DBOkenas, or easier still "sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-`uname -r`"02:17
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maxyvitsgnome are you saying it doesn't always work?02:17
Healotand that's the exact command line :)02:17
DBOoh nuts, Healot beat me to it...02:17
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erichgnomefreak: thing is that that laptop is so old, installing on it sucks... thats why I'd prefer to do just an upgrade.02:17
gnomefreakmaxyvits: no im saying that is how it should work02:17
Hexidigital_Healot, DBO:: that a handy piece of info :) thanks02:17
maxyvitsbut doesn't?02:18
maxyvits:D02:18
Healoterich: you should know better than me...02:18
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gnomefreakerich: you can do it but more times than not it renders the os un usable02:18
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erichHealot: yep, I've been installing debian packages on ubuntu and the other way round a few times. and I also know how to apt-pin to force all packages onto ubuntu versions.02:18
maxyvitssorry I'm a university prof. terrible stickler.02:19
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kenas sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-2.6.15-23-386 <---- this could be the command line ?02:19
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Hexidigital_well, folks... i need some sleep.  Guten Tag!02:19
erichHealot: I had hoped that there was an howto somewhere I didn't find. or at least a list of typical issues.02:19
Healotbtw: even with pinning package version could lead to a disaster02:19
gnomefreaki thought it was linux-headers-2.6.12-2302:19
gnomefreak-38602:20
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maxyvitsdo you guys know if there's an open source alternative to Adobe Framemaker?02:20
gnomefreak!header02:20
ubotugnomefreak: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:20
gnomefreak!headers02:20
ubotuTo install linux headers, open a console and type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:20
maxyvitsI'm trying to switch to Ubuntu and I'd like to know if I can edit stuff I've created in Framemaker in some open source alternative02:20
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gnomefreakkenas: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-23-38602:21
patchhow can I Know which Sound Card has my pc ?02:21
maxyvitsI'm such a noob02:21
gnomefreakpatch: lspci02:21
Healotmy pc has? patch02:21
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patchHealot: ?02:22
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Rivercan someone tell me which usb port the following uri is pointing to 'usb:/dev/usb/lp0'02:22
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maxyvitsubotu: I tried opening that link from xchat and ff didn't launch02:23
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, maxyvits02:23
boha_so if my linux recognise my graphic card i dont have to instal drivers for it?02:23
boha_or si better to install them?02:23
patchthank's, gnomefreak02:23
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Togehello02:24
Togedo you know a program to copy dvds?02:24
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maxyvitsdo I have to do something in preferences to get it to launch url's?02:24
Togelike dvdshrink or clonedvd for win02:24
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erichHealot: well, you obviously need to pay attention to not losing e.g. your dhcp client package etc. people tend to not review package lists on upgrade, especially not on dist-upgrade... well, I'll try. I can still install from fresh if it doesn't work.02:26
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dawsonhi anyone know of a good beginners guide (and i do mean beginner) to the horary hedgehog release?02:27
Rivercan someone please help me with a cups network printing question02:27
Healoterich: most of the people come here and complain about broken upgrade...02:27
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Healotthat's ubuntu's upgrade even...02:27
kenasit says i need a C Compiler02:28
kenasany suggestion ?02:28
HealotI wish upgrade is as easy as NT-based OSes' :002:28
gnomefreakkenas: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:28
patchgnomefreak: can you help me? in this post which is my sound card ? http:/pastebin.com/704197 ... I can't see some sound card !02:28
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LinuxJonesRiver, what's wrong ?02:29
Healot0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)02:29
Healotthere he is...02:29
maxyvitsis there a defrag program in ubuntu?02:29
maxyvitsis it even necessary?02:29
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Healotext3/3 doesn't need defragmentation :-02:30
mjrmaxyvits, there is defrag, but it's not that necessary, no02:30
LinuxJonesmaxyvits, not really02:30
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gnomefreakpatch: you have an intel sound card02:30
TobberothHow do I find a program for linux? I want a program which can read .chm, what should I search for?02:30
RiverLinuxJones: I want to get my printer to be a network not local but I can't get it to work. Can you tell me where this is pointing to 'usb:/dev/usb/lp0'02:30
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gnomefreakok bbiab i need to change pcs02:31
LinuxJonesTobberoth, you can try searching for it using apt-cache search or synaptic02:31
mjrTobberoth, apt-cache search chm, in this case you probably want xchm02:31
TobberothI'm using synaptic, but when i search for chm, I get tons of results02:31
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TobberothAh yes, xchm is perfect02:31
Tobberoththanks02:31
LinuxJonesRiver, cups only listens on localhost by default, you need to make a small change to the config file02:32
patchyes but, gnomefreak I can't listen my sound in my machine, that's the reason that I want to know which model I have because I need to read more in alsa project02:32
Healotxchm kchmviewer gnochm>> this one yay02:32
mjr("chm viewer" returned quite few results, by the way :)02:32
gharzguys, i've an .avi file and i want to burn it so it can be played on a VCD/DVD player. what's the application to use?02:32
kenasi already have installed build essential02:32
gharzi tried k3b but it doesn't have option to create video discs/file02:32
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Tobberothah, good idea to use viewer in the search.. however, in theory, what if I didn't know it was a text file?02:33
RiverLinuxJones: does this still apply on Dapper or is there a GUI for this change ?02:33
TobberothI'm sorta confused with all this finding programs for linux ^^02:33
LinuxJonesRiver, I can't remember which line you have to change but it's in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf (I believe)02:33
patchgnomefreak: o yes, I can see the model, thenk's02:33
kenasNone of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for your02:33
kenasrunning kernel. <-------- this is what it says02:33
Peciskhi, anyone else expierence some screw-ups while listening to rhythmbox and in same time burning something to disc?02:34
RiverLinuxJones: ok thanks, but can you please tell me where this link points to 'usb:/dev/usb/lp0' or how does the system know which usb port this is ?02:35
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nominawesome!  I finally got X to start.02:36
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LinuxJonesRiver,  it finds the printer on the usb bus. You can have a look at your usb devices by doing lsusb02:36
nominwasn't too much involved, really02:36
cynehow do i test my modem without connecting to the internet with it?02:36
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top222Had the upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 fail02:37
top222Encountered a problem with samba and cupsys02:37
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top222They complained about the files in /etc/init.d/02:37
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top222I removed /etc/init.d/samba and had samba configure succesfully02:38
top222I did the same with cupsys02:38
top222But /etc/init.d/samba did not come back by apt-get install samba --reinstall02:38
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top222Now I wonder if it is safe to copy back the file I moved away to have samba configure succesfully02:38
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top222Hello any/every/someone? :(02:39
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johan_what is the minimum system requirement for ubuntu 6.06?02:41
RiverLinuxJones: yes, I have looked at the lsusb and the printer is listed as bus 002 device 004 but I still don't know which usb port it is using. Does this uri specify the usb port ? usb:/dev/usb/lp0'02:41
eXistenZHow can I install crontab?02:41
ompauljohan_, many speculate, tell us what you are thinking and we say yes no or maybe02:41
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johan_128mb ram?02:42
mathieu_johan_: it depends what software you want to run02:42
ompauljohan_, disk and video card please02:42
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ompauljohan_, xubuntu should be okay on it, ubuntu might be a tad slow for your average user02:42
ekohello02:42
ekohello02:43
ompauljohan_, sorry that was disk and processor02:43
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ekohi?02:43
top222Hope I can now reboot...?02:43
ompaul!ask02:43
ubotuFor information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:43
rixxonwhat package has rubygems?02:43
Zeroth405what makes ubuntu a better choice than debian? :-)02:43
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gharzguys, i've an .avi file and i want to burn it so it can be played on a VCD/DVD player. what's the application to use?02:43
ekoerm02:43
ompauleko, there are 850+ in the channel, you really don't want 861 replies02:43
ekozeroth02:43
ekowho said ubuntu was better? Zeroth?02:44
amithow can i include a *.S file in a *.c file ?02:44
ekoPlease dont compare02:44
top222How do I access menus on Gnome desktop?02:44
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top222My mouse stopped working when I docked my Thinkpad02:44
amitplz help02:44
ekoIam using Windows now .. Willl i get banned for that?02:44
Zeroth405eko, well if it doesnt serve a different purpose, than why would it even exist?02:44
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gnomefreaksknot unless you would like to02:45
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ompauleko, from my perspecitive ubuntu works better, if you insist on chatting in a support channel you will02:45
gnomefreaks/sknot/ eko not02:45
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gnomefreakompaul, can you do that one02:45
redbladesZeroth405, don't do this, it's a different system02:45
ekoIam downloading ubuntu now02:45
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eXistenZgnomefreak, when I do cp path/* destation , it doesn't copy the dirs as well. How can I let it copy the dirs?02:45
gnomefreakty im learning xchat :(02:45
redbladesbased on Debian, but aimed at different people02:45
Sp4rKyhi02:45
amithow can i include a *.S file in a *.c file ?02:46
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Zeroth405redblades, I'm merely curious. I run debian and I'd like to know if ububtu is worth trying.02:46
Fee^eXistenZ:  add the -R flag02:46
gnomefreakeXistenZ, try using the full path02:46
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Sp4rKyi've some issue with webcam installation ,anyone could help me ?02:46
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redbladesZeroth405, I've tried both and loved both02:46
eXistenZFee^, gnomefreak, thanks02:46
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redbladesDebian was just the one for me02:46
amithow can i include a *.S file in a *.c file ?02:46
recoverZeroth405, You really should do that... Ubuntu Dapper just made everything I wished Ubuntu Breezy would have come true :P02:46
recoverEverything just works :P02:47
Zeroth405redblades, I prefer debian, but not for more than oen system. I run debian on my non-main system, and the install process got me frustrated.02:47
redbladesThe Ubuntu one is only marginally easier02:47
Sp4rKyi've a custom 2.6.16.5 kernel and my webcam doesn't work!02:47
ompaulgnomefreak, did you get the config file written by Mr S02:47
redbladesThe Debian one is a synch02:47
sjazHi there, I have a strange crashing problem which I hope someone can shed some light on ... :( - http://pastebin.com/70423102:47
recoverZeroth405, the least thing you could do is try it, you won't regret it02:47
redbladesI agree02:48
redbladesGood to try02:48
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gnomefreaki have it sitting in front of me i clicked accept but still sitting here :(02:48
redbladesLive CD02:48
Zeroth405redblades, for example, it was a pain in my ass to install -testing as the installer refused to give me that option unless I selected "expert" install02:48
ompaulgnomefreak, it died02:48
Sp4rKydoes anyone could help me please ?02:48
redbladesZeroth405, so?02:48
Zeroth405redblades, and I'm did a floppy install. took me a long time to figure out how to do that :-)02:49
redbladesWHY?02:49
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Zeroth405redblades, lets think: why would anyone do a floppy install?02:49
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redbladesIt's so annoting to do it that way02:50
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Zeroth405redblades, it was my only option02:50
top222A problem with Dapper... it comes with 2.6.15, and the mouse port of the Thinkpad's dock is broken in 2.6.14 and 2.6.15, and functions again in 2.6.1602:50
redbladesZeroth405, DUH02:50
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redbladesI'm just saying, it's a bad way to do it.02:50
recovertop222, your confort is that it wont be long until Ubuntu 6.10 :P02:50
top222Is there an officially available 2.6.16 for Ubuntu?02:50
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roverandomhi to all ! somebody uses ipw3945 wifi ? (centrino )02:50
TobberothIs there anyway to fix if you get squares with numbers insted of characters? ( I guess it's because the file isn't using UTF-8 or something)02:50
gnomefreaktop222, no02:51
Zeroth405redblades, not if it's the *only* way02:51
redbladesmakes it complicated when it doesn't "just work"02:51
redbladeseven then02:51
gnomefreaktop222, you have to compile it02:51
Zeroth405redblades, I think you misunderstood me. it wasn't a full floppy install -- it was a floppy net-install.02:51
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gnomefreakbrb gonna grab a smoke while these things work for me02:51
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ompaulgnomefreak, there will be a mail for you when you get back02:52
gnomefreakok ty02:52
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Zeroth405does ububtu use the debian mirrors or does it have its own?02:52
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SubhumanZeroth405, it has itz own.02:52
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dionysosit has it own02:52
SubhumanZeroth405, i also find ubuntu mirrors ALOT faster than the debian ones.02:52
eneriedhello02:53
eneriedsomebody can help me?02:53
ompaulSubhuman, in a lot of cases they are the same machine02:53
Zeroth405Subhuman, is kde or xfce in the ubunto mirrors, or are kubuntu and xububtu completely different distros?02:53
SubhumanZeroth405, i think they are in the same repos.02:53
mathieu_Zeroth405: the former02:53
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eneriedi'm adding a program to my sessions in uuntu, but the program donesn't seems to work... in breezy we had an option to set the priority, but dapper doesn't have this...02:53
Zeroth405mathieu_, sounds like a pain. I cant have all three on one system without extra work?02:54
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Subhumanompaul, well the uk ones arent, my debian server gets about 180kb/sec on quiet times, my ubuntu desktop can get 270 ( peak bw) almost all the time02:54
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mathieu_erm.. just apt-get install ...02:54
SubhumanZeroth405, yes you can.02:54
ompaulSubhuman, in the uk they are different machines ;-) however in most of the rest of the world they are on "good mirrors"02:54
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SubhumanZeroth405, jus install KDE and XFCE in the normal Ubuntu.02:55
Zeroth405ubuntu default kernel is 2.4 or 2.6?02:56
eneriedum where the "startup programs" file is placed?02:56
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ninjaplimsolesanyone here who can assist me with XGL/Compiz?02:58
[GUARDiAN] hi02:58
Matthewvninjaplimsoles, try #ubuntu-xgl02:58
ninjaplimsolesI have02:58
eneriedis anybody reading me? (T-T)02:58
ninjaplimsolesnobody talks02:58
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=== Flamekebab swears at ACPI
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eneriedok02:59
eneriedi'll be back later :'(02:59
eneriedbye02:59
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ninjaplimsolescan nobody help?02:59
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Flamekebabgraaar03:00
Matthewvninjaplimsoles, probably best asking the question, and seeing if you get any answers...03:00
Flamekebabwhy must ACPI be such a pain? Suspend stubbornly refuses to work03:00
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ninjaplimsolesok, I follow the tutorial here -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267 and when i reboot, it hangs at a black and white checkquered screen with the loading cursor, any ideas!!?03:00
MatthewvFlamekebab, btw, where is the suspend option in dapper?03:00
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Sp4rKyplease does anyone could help me with webcam ?03:01
cherwinninjaplimsoles: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html03:01
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Sp4rKyplease does anyone could help me with webcam installation ?03:01
FlamekebabPower Management, or just go to turn the machine off and one has the option to suspend03:01
FlamekebabSp4rky which cam?03:01
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TudingHey can someone tell me what are the differences between the DVD and CD verison?03:02
jessidhello to everybody...03:02
GigaClonDVD has both Live and install03:02
FlamekebabI'm tempted to just incessantly quote the 2 Live Crew03:02
maxy_noobcan someone tell me how to turn off menu tips/descriptors in ubuntu (gnome)03:02
ninjaplimsolescherwin, can you be any more insulting?03:02
logica_lmarkGigaClon, the CD has the live CD...03:02
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void^Matthewv: might have to edit the gnome-power-manager settings with gconf-editor and check /etc/default/acpi-support03:03
Tudinglol03:03
[GUARDiAN] i have a problem with my graphics-driver... i have a notebook using an integrated intel graphics (855GM) which gave me a perfectly working aixgl using dri and opengl... until somewhen yesterday evening when suddenly an error in Xorg.0.log appeared, stating that /dev/agpgart can't be found and there's not enough vidmem to load the dri... any ideas?03:03
FlamekebabI've got the acpi-support conf here03:03
Matthewvvoid^, thanks, it just disappeared from the shutdown menu thats all03:03
logica_lmarkDoes anyone here use XGL? I am trying to figure out what they mean when they say "super key"03:03
FlamekebabACPI_SLEEP_MODE=standby03:03
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Tudingso what is the difference then?03:03
void^strangely, suspend to ram works better with echo mem > /sys/power/state than with that gnome-power-manager scripts03:03
cherwinninjaplimsoles: don't get me wrong but this isn't an insult, we can help you much faster if you ask questions the right way.03:03
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void^(works better for me on this laptop, that is)03:03
jessidI want to ask a little question: if i am not an expert in command line, and i want to install some services, like, for example a web server, may I doit in graph environment and then "kill" it to save resources?03:03
ninjaplimsolescherwin: what exactly was wrong with my question?03:03
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[GUARDiAN] logica_lmark: it's the windows-key on your keyboard03:04
Sp4rKyFlamekebab, an vimicro listed in spca5xx.html list (Vimicro1490x0ac80x305bGeneric VC0305Zc0302Tas5130c)03:04
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Flamekebabshould I comment in the line saying "#ACPI_SLEEP=true" ?03:04
cherwinninjaplimsoles: it's not only you, but if you just ask a question like anyone has experience with xgl/compiz the only answer you have to expect is yes or no03:04
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maxy_noobanybody?03:04
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logica_lmark[GUARDiAN] , I tried it, but it never works. I mean when I do something like, "Super Key -> Scroll Up"03:04
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top222Seems I lost both external mouse and CPU frequency scaling by upgrading to Dapper03:04
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Awesome-o2000hello - im trying to run shoutcast server - its a binary. I just erased my centos install where shoutcast worked fine but the stream is only coming in on one side03:04
ninjaplimsolesThis was my qestion: ok, I follow the tutorial here -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267 and when i reboot, it hangs at a black and white checkquered screen with the loading cursor, any ideas!!?03:05
Awesome-o2000this is on ubuntu03:05
logica_lmark[GUARDiAN] , I also cannot right click on a windows menu bar and set it's transparency.03:05
webmindtop222, with what cpu ?03:05
Awesome-o2000I was just wondering if someone could tell me where to look03:05
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maxy_noobI'd like to turn off those yellow boxes that pop up when scrolling over menu items03:05
cherwinjust like Sp4rkY, he just ask, help me with the installation of my webcam period03:05
edneymatiasmorning!03:05
top222webmind: Pentium III mobile03:05
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webmindhmk, got pentium M here03:05
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ninjaplimsolesmorning edney03:05
alexx-I try to upgrade from 5.10 breezy to 6.06TLS from Update Manager and I get this: Failed to fetch http://www.winki-the-ripper.de/share/debs/hoary/binary/Packages.gz 404 Not Found .. what I hav 2 do?03:05
cherwinthen we have to ask, which cam, what did you tried, what errors did you get etc03:06
[GUARDiAN] logica_lmark: strange... i can't currently look at my xgl-desktop since my opengl is b0rked03:06
ninjaplimsolesI followed the tutorial, got no errors, it simply hangs at the loading screen03:06
logica_lmark[GUARDiAN] , thanks for the attention atleast03:06
Awesome-o2000Im going to try it on the vanilla kernel - I dont know why but this makes a difference in centos too03:07
[GUARDiAN] logica_lmark: np... i guess my "question" also has the "any ideas?"-bug, so it won't be answered *g*03:07
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cherwinninjaplimsoles: then you have to look at your dmesg in another console to see some errors03:07
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maxy_noobCan it be done?03:07
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jessidand another one...when i mount 30 times the file system, ubuntu runs a program to check integrity...can you tell me what the name of this one is? is ti fsck? can i use it even if the partition is mounted? thanks03:08
cherwinfsck03:08
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ninjaplimsolescherwin: your advice is ace, instead of directing me to 'how to ask the right questions' you should read about how to answer them03:09
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ninjaplimsolesDude you like look at some stuff with dmesg in another console to see some stuff like errors and stuff03:09
xiceHAS anyone been able to install vmware server beta2??? Im having a little trouble03:09
alexx-I try to upgrade from 5.10 breezy to 6.06TLS from Update Manager and I get this: Failed to fetch http://www.winki-the-ripper.de/share/debs/hoary/binary/Packages.gz 404 Not Found .. any ideas?03:09
Flamekebabbee are bee03:10
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cherwinninjaplimsoles: what are you talking about, you appearantly didn't read the faq of xgl, didn't searched google well enough and you are posting at the wrong forum03:10
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void^alexx-: try to remember why you added that repository. figure out what a current working link to it is and fix it.03:11
ninjaplimsolescherwin: I've read the FAQ, I searched google and I went to ubuntu-xgl and someone directed me here! Checkmate...03:11
maxy_noobIs there a way to disable yellow menu descriptive popups in ubuntu?03:11
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cherwinninjaplimsoles: then the dude that directed you here is wrong03:11
alexx-void^ can u send me ur list?03:11
ninjaplimsolescherwin: ok, go to #ubuntu-xgl yourself and try a conversation. Nobody talks03:12
Ra211crap, just submitted an "HOWTO" but noticed a tiny little mistake; now I'll have to wait, wait, wait until it gets approved (or not) and then edit it :?03:12
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harm_Anyone know how to get ultimaOnline working w. Ubuntu?03:12
ninjaplimsolesThe best person to speak to is Wallbraker, he helped me before, but he's never available to chat03:12
void^alexx-: you can find examples at wiki.ubuntu.com03:12
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Sp4rKyhi (again)03:13
maxy_noobI guess it's too noob a question, eh?03:13
Sp4rKyso does anyone could help me and my webcam ?03:13
alexx-void^ so I just have to update my sources list?? btw how much space I need for the update?03:13
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Matthewvmaxy_noob, maybe try gconf...03:14
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maxy_noobgconf?03:14
bodihi, anyone getting this annoyance in their X desktop ? seems that when I try dragging something, the "drag source" point is different from the point where I clicked (the bad part is that sometimes the 'click' isn't in the correct position) (sorry for twisted/dumb description)03:14
maxy_noob(I'm a noob)03:14
Matthewvmaxy_noob, press alt-f2, and type in gconf-editor, and hit enter03:14
cherwinSp4rKy: what kind of webcam do you have, we have know some information before we can help you out03:15
maxy_noobthanks Matt03:15
Ra211is there a channel where ubuntuforums.org mods hang out?03:16
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Matthewvmaxy_noob, you there?03:16
maxy_noobya03:16
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Matthewvmaxy_noob, once in gconf, goto /apps/panel/global/tooltips_enabled and try disabling that, not sure if that willhelp03:16
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Frogzooalexx-: I'm guessing around 2gig on /var, depending03:17
maxy_noobyou rock Matt!03:17
maxy_noobthanks03:17
Matthewvmaxy_noob, works? :)03:17
chrisjwhi03:17
maxy_noobfor the most part, yes.03:18
alexx-Frogzoo, thats a lot, I have only 800mb free ... thanx03:18
maxy_noobI'll take it!03:18
chrisjwcan someone tell me how to fix something?03:18
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maxy_noobtask bar still lights up03:18
jimmy89hey03:18
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chrisjw"E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ample_0.5.7-2_i386.deb: unable to open files list file for package `python2.4-pyxattr'"03:18
jimmy89im thinking of making the switch from debian to ubuntu, you think thats a good choice?03:18
chrisjwI get that when trying to install using synaptic03:18
Frogzooalexx-: you might try disabling the universe/multiverse repos before upgrading03:19
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hydra__someone knows the name of the gtk+ and qt devel packages? i cant find them in synaptics03:19
alexx-Frogzoo, it saves space this03:19
Matthewvhydra__, libgtk2-dev maybe?03:19
gnomefreakhydra__, libqt3-mt-dev03:19
alexx-Frogzoo, update works the same as installing from scratch?03:19
chrisjw"E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ample_0.5.7-2_i386.deb: unable to open files list file for package `python2.4-pyxattr'" anyone?!?!?!03:20
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Frogzooalexx-: sure - but you only update the core apps - then you reenable the other repos once the upgrade is complete03:20
hydra__thank you03:20
chavohydra__, it's libgtk2.0-dev03:20
hydra__;-)03:20
alexx-Frogzoo, thanx a lot03:21
jimmy89with ubuntu, with wireless connections can you use passphrase for the wep password type, and can you set the key number, eg key2 ?03:21
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Ra211zenwhen: are you there?03:21
chrisjw"E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ample_0.5.7-2_i386.deb: unable to open files list file for package `python2.4-pyxattr'" anyone?!?!?!!! f,gjspdfoghsdf-ogsdgs03:22
spikeb!patience03:22
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.03:22
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Sp4rKy_my webcam is an Vimicro , usb IDs are 0x0ac8and 0x305b , and i use a custom 2.6.16.5 kernel03:23
Awesome-o2000is there a shoutcast package for ubuntu?03:23
kholerabbiHey, I want a smart key logger - anyone know one?03:23
Awesome-o2000!shoutcast03:23
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Awesome-o200003:23
Awesome-o2000:((03:23
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Awesome-o2000i sure hope I can get this bin working right on ubuntu - the one channel is a real bummer03:23
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Awesome-o2000I can listen to it on the computer and it comes in fine, but it transmits the mp3 on the left channel only...03:24
Frogzooalexx-: yw, & gl03:24
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rigonatti hi all03:25
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SAM_themanrigonatti, yo03:25
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patrick_I use dapper, how can I find out what modules I really need to load (it now just loads everything)03:25
rigonattidoes anyone know a App to format disks and partitions ?03:25
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patrick_I think it is really slow at this momnet03:25
joemauchwhen i play a divx movie the colors are distorted, pink is blue so skin looks blue, has anyone had this?03:25
kosnickrogonatti : on ubuntu?03:25
cherwinSp4rkY_ : did you enable video for linux in you kernel?03:25
joemauchthe preview in nautilus looks ifine03:25
rigonattiI mean ...I have a unformated Disk ..and need to format to use as backup03:25
LukkettoI posted twice to add comment to a bug in Launchpad....there is a way to cancel the last one?03:25
gnomefreakrigonatti, gparted qt parted03:25
Awesome-o2000what is the utility called that updates your system? the gui app?03:26
krazykitjoemauch: yes, but restarting x fixes it03:26
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rigonattiyes ..ubuntu dapper03:26
rigonattigparted  or qtparted ?03:26
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joemauchkrazykit, does it happen a lot or..?03:26
Sp4rKy_cherwin, yes, and i'd another webcam working 2days ago :)03:26
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gnomefreakrigonatti, yes03:26
krazykitjoemauch: nah, only after running for a few days03:26
kosnickroginatti : i am not familiar with dapper but in breezy there is (or maybe was ...) some disk tool03:26
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rolf___u satisfied with new ubuntu release?03:27
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rigonattiboth are graphicals interfaces ?03:27
msidanybody aware of presentation tools like powerpoint and OOimpress?03:27
gnomefreakriyes03:27
gnomefreakrigonatti, yes03:27
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cherwinSp4rKy_: you have to figure out what kind of chipset your webcam use and then load the module for it, if you then plug it in it will recognize it03:27
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rigonattiso ...what is the diference between? I mean..do you recommend one of them ? =.03:27
krazykitgnomefreak: then don't use it ;-)03:27
kosnickmsid : what is it with powerpoint?03:27
rolf___Sp4rKy_, yep. there is a guide for this in forum too. It works for me.. :)03:28
gnomefreakrigonatti, they are about the same03:28
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gnomefreakkrazykit, i have to right now03:28
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Sp4rKy_cherwin, the driver is spca5xx , my webcam is listed here : http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html03:28
msidkosnick: i just want it to be compatible with powerpoint03:28
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jimmy89is ubuntu more popular then debian?'03:28
rigonattignomefreak txs a lot =D03:28
rolf___Sp4rKy_, good. Jus follow that guide03:28
Sp4rKy_rolf___, i've tried easycam2 easyscpa , manual compil :/03:28
gnomefreakrigonatti, yw03:28
rigonattibtw..can i have just one more question !?03:28
joemauchkrazykit, no luck :(03:28
kosnickmsid : you mean you need something in Ubuntu that can becompatible with powerpoint?03:28
gnomefreakjimmy89, please join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask that03:28
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Awesome-o2000if its jsut a kernel thing i'll be overjoyed03:28
gnomefreakrigonatti, yes03:29
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NoWhereToTurnIt never ends with ubuntu03:29
gnomefreakkoshka88, OOo will open pp files03:29
msidkosnick: i was very precise in what i asked. presentation tool like powerpoint or OOimpress. Not Kimpress btw03:29
rigonattiThe Gdesklet seems to be like KDE APPs right ? the only recommended site is gdesklets.org ? (its off line)03:29
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rolf___Sp4rKy_, u have followed this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284&highlight=spca03:29
kosnickmsid : i think openoffice is compatible with powerpoint , at least i got some .ppt working with openoffice03:30
PTWalrusopenoffice presentation is compatible with PP03:30
msidkosnick: do you know how to read or not ?03:30
rolf___openoffice is compatible with ppt.. I have tested that today. works great03:30
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msid.....03:30
eXistenZHow can I tell crontable to execute a certain perl script every 10 minutes?03:30
alexx-PTWalrus, to open office, einai gia ta panhygyria I think03:30
msidi asked for OTHER presentation tools03:30
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alexx-PTWalrus, nothin, miskate03:31
Sp4rKy_rolf___, yes, i'd try this too03:31
NoWhereToTurnWhy would Breezy just hang during installation where it supposedly is installing grub?03:31
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rolf___Sp4rKy_, Ok. pity not working :(03:31
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krazykitjoemauch: as far as i can tell, there's a problem with the colorspace.  have you tried x11 output on your video player?03:31
Sp4rKy_rolf___, execpt it's a custom kernel so i can't apt-get headers :/03:31
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gnomefreakbrb03:32
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joemauchkrazykit, i'm using Totem and afaik there is no way to change it03:32
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siriusnovahowdy03:33
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krazykitjoemauch: i'd bet there's a command line option for it.  i don't have totem installed, though.03:33
siriusnovamorning peeplz (for those in the USA)03:33
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raphaGood afternoon siriusnova :-)03:34
eXistenZwhat is the default path for the crontab file03:34
NoWhereToTurnis it morning already? I had not noticed03:34
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firstknightmaybe /var/spool/cron/crontabs/....03:35
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joemauchkrazykit, you use mplayer?03:35
detectiveinspektwhere are apt packages stored , I have a 20mb file I dled using apt and I don't want to dl it again on the other computer03:35
rolf___is linux faster than windows?03:35
raphaDepends, rolf___03:36
siriusnovahehe03:36
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siriusnovathe gui isnt faster then windows xp03:36
Frogzoodetectiveinspekt: /var/cache/apt/03:36
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rolf___rapha, yes. depends.. I see no big different. But works good for me anyway03:36
detectiveinspektthanks03:36
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siriusnovafor sure, but then windows xp came out in like what 2001?03:36
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krazykitjoemauch: if the problem occurs, it happens with mplayer and xine.  they both get that messed up color stuff.  i'd guess it's either a bug in the intel drivers or in xorg.03:36
rapharolf___: for me, too :-) ... especially since yesterday evening. Xgl and Compiz rock, even on an old GeForce 4MX.03:36
Frogzoosiriusnova: bollocks03:36
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siriusnovaFrogzoo - Gnome is much slower on my laptop then windows xp03:37
siriusnovathats a fact03:37
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Frogzoosiriusnova: and you're running 5x as many apps - oh, & are you running dapper?03:37
siriusnovabut then Windows XP doesnt do all kinds of cool rendering stuff like display PDFs and Images your home directory03:37
siriusnovayes Frogzoo03:37
siriusnovawell im not running 5x as many apps03:38
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siriusnovajust stuff like browsing folders is slower03:38
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rolf___oki.. :) Is 6.10 better than 5.10?03:38
rolf___new release..03:38
siriusnovayes it is rolf03:38
siriusnovafor a laptop its ten times better03:38
gordsiriusnova, gnome is a few months old, windows xp is 5 years or so old. of course gnome is a lil slower, its a lot more advanced :)03:38
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Frogzoosiriusnova: how much real memory?03:38
raphaYes, nautilus can't keep up with explorer, speed-wise.03:38
cynehow do i find the PCI ID of my modem?03:38
siriusnovagord - exactly, which is why i dont worry about it03:38
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rapharolf___: 6.06 -- and it is crapload better :)03:38
siriusnovaFrogzoo - 1GB03:38
rolf___oki 6.06.. what does crapload means?03:39
morpheushi there03:39
raphagord: actually, gnome is much, much older than Win XP03:39
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morpheusiam a linux newbie03:39
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gordrapha, im talking about the latest release03:39
Kajsomeone who can help me get a Orinoco USB Silver-card to work?03:39
rapharolf___: nevermind. "lots" :-) ... "verdammt" besser ;)03:39
morpheusi have downloaded nvidia driver package to my desktop and am trying to get them instaled any help?03:39
Frogzoosiriusnova: well that's odd  I don't really see what your problem is, especially as the gui in dapper is much faster than breezy03:39
rolf___rapha, I understand you :)03:39
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raphagord: well, GNOME 2.8 isn't the same type of release as Win XP03:40
gnomefreakmorpheus, whats wrong with the ubuntu nvidia drivers?03:40
rolf___morpheus: I will find a link for u for that.. wait.03:40
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morpheusthey are a lil laggy when i drag windows03:40
siriusnovaFrogzoo - its faster than breezy but it is definetly slower then Explorer, but then again Nautilus does all kinds of stuff that Explorer doesn't so that's expected. Its like comparing Windows XP vs Windows 3.11 on the same computer03:40
morpheusi notice it should run smoother allriht thanks03:40
gnomefreakmorpheus, oh ok they work well here03:40
Frogzoosiriusnova: fair nuff - I know that the virtual desktop in gnome is much faster than any doze add on I've ever used03:41
joemauchkrazykit, thanks, i installed VLC, works fine03:41
morpheusnot well03:41
morpheusjust good03:41
samulikde is a lot faster than gnome if that's what you're after.03:41
gnomefreakmoreece, they work well here03:41
morpheusand when i terminal service into jmy machine at home i get like an 8bit feel off of it03:41
gnomefreakmorpheus, ^^^^03:41
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siriusnovaFrogzoo - i do wish that Firefox in Linux was faster, its slooow on Linux03:42
rolf___kde has problems.. so i choose Gnome03:42
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rolf___nice and friendly03:42
bogarolf___: elaborate03:42
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samulirolf___: what sort of problems?03:42
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kevin1How do I use fluxbox with gnome?03:42
patubuntuhello.. some one knows why firefox on dapper release is trying to download a PHTML file when trying to browse phpmyadmin ?03:43
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gnomefreakkevin1, you use one or the other not both03:43
rolf___samuli, well. something with camera and so.. was not just plug in camera and get the photos and so.. in gnome just plug and run03:43
Winkiehey guys, i'm looking to upgrade 10 or so servers shortly to some debian setup, however i've noticed that there's a server ubuntu version, are there any websites showing me decent comparisons of debian / ubuntu?03:43
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patubuntumysql, php and apache are install correctly03:43
kevin1gnomefreak, can't fluxbox be my window manager for gnome?03:43
Frogzoosiriusnova: stupid question - you running a 686 kernel? or stock 386?03:43
siriusnovaFrogzoo - 68603:43
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samulikevin1, it can.03:43
_jpierreHello all.03:43
gnomefreakkevin1, i not sure on that03:44
spaceysiriusnova: try epiphany :)03:44
samulikevin1, usuall you can try it with something like fluxbox -replace03:44
gnomefreakkevin1, i was thinking no03:44
sivaniconhow do i enable remote desktop via the terminal?03:44
samuliHmm, I'm pretty sure i tried it before.03:44
_jpierreI have this problem when installing flashplugin-nonfree on dapper. It comes on Configuring Flashplugin-nonfree and it stays there... no progress! any help I know that many of you have had this problem03:44
rolf___what the heck is dapper?03:45
Bassettshow long does it take approx for bugs to be confirmed?03:45
Megantnewest ubunta version03:45
NoWhereToTurnWhy would Breezy just hang during installation where it supposedly is installing grub?03:45
Megantubuntu*03:45
cherwinkevin1: gnome is a desktop enviroment and fluxbox is a window manager,  i don't know exactly what you are trying to do but you really should use one or the other like gnomefreak says03:45
rolf___6.06?03:45
_jpierrerolf___: Ubuntu 6.0603:45
gnomefreakrolf___, dapper was the code name for ubuntu 6.0603:45
rolf___Aha ok :) Got it now03:45
rolf___I use 5.1003:45
Kajanyone who can help me get a wlan-usb-card to work?03:45
seanI have installed several extensions for firefox. After,I  found it not so good.so I uninstalled they.but now I could not use firefox to browse.When I type www.google.com in address bar and press Enter, nothing happens.03:45
raphaBtw, is Edgy Eft gonna be released in October or in December now?03:45
Matthewv_jpierre, usually installing that package will pop up a separate window for configuration.. you sure there was no extra window?03:45
NoWhereToTurnI hear dapper is a bit buggy03:45
raphaNoWhereToTurn: nah, looks good.03:46
top222Dapper is a bit buggy03:46
Soirrapha: still october, I think03:46
gnomefreakrapha, aiming for oct03:46
Bassettsrapha, october03:46
raphaWow.03:46
rolf___shit buggy. I will wait for stabile instead03:46
raphaThat's a sporty goal.03:46
Bassettsrapha, its 6.10, so im guessing october =P03:46
rapharolf___: what is buggy about 6.06?03:46
FrogzooBassetts: lol - hardly worth a new release between june & october03:46
gnomefreakrolf___, dapper is not buggy03:46
xice7.10?03:46
top222NoWhereToTurn: I lost my CPU freq. scaling and external PS/2 mouse, but both are kernel's fault03:46
Kibousean: how about removing or renaming ~/.mozilla ?03:46
_jpierreMatthewv: Yep No extra window. I only had the terminal window from where I was installing03:46
tristanmike!language03:46
kalicratesare there any brasilian here?03:46
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.03:46
rolf___people here says its buggy03:46
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CompuCh|pHi03:46
top222NoWhereToTurn: As soon as they get official 2.6.16 kernel, I'm fine03:46
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gnomefreakrolf___, its not buggy03:46
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NoWhereToTurnEven # releases = not stable03:46
BassettsFrogzoo: his kinda soon =P03:46
rolf___gnomefreak, ok.. I will install as soon I have bought dvd-r03:47
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rapharolf___: who said that? Tell me and I'll have a serious talk with them :)03:47
kalicratesor somebody speaks portuguese :P03:47
Soirafaik all operating systems are buggy, it's just a question of how bad, how many, and how quick to fix03:47
Matthewv_jpierre, so is the package installed now? or not?03:47
rolf___haha!!03:47
seanKibou, OK ,I'll try It right now.03:47
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Bassettsgnomefreak: imo dapper is a bit buggy03:47
rolf___they are here the BUGGY PEOPLE :)03:47
NoWhereToTurnI just want to get Ubuntu installed.. Even Breezy wont03:47
CompuCh|pCan anyone explain this to me? When I do a list, I get "drw-rw-r-- ... myname users  directory". But when I try "cd directory" I get "Access denied"03:47
patubuntu hello.. some one knows why firefox on dapper release is trying to download a PHTML file when trying to browse phpmyadmin ?03:47
_jpierreI can't really say it's intalled ... I get a 120 sec timout on the configuring part03:47
Frogzoodapper has a very few serious shortcomings - that hopefully will get fixed soonish, otherwise, it's a damn fine release03:47
patubuntu mysql, php and apache are installed correctly03:47
gnomefreakrolf___, 1 persson having a problem does not mean its buggy03:47
Bassettsgnomefreak: i had less problems in breezy03:47
_jpierreMatthewv: I can't really say it's intalled ... I get a 120 sec timout on the configuring part03:47
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morpheushello03:48
BassettsFrogzoo: thats true, but you cant fault it for just the third release03:48
kevin1samuli, I killed metacity and then did fluxbox --replace it works, but im stuck with open terminal03:48
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gnomefreakBassetts, i havent had an issue with dapper ive been running it on 2 pcs since dec/jan03:48
CompuCh|pHi morpheus03:48
Matthewvso if you do a 'dpkg -s flashplugin-nonfree' are you told it is installed or?03:48
Soirgnomefreak: if 1 person finds a bug nobody else would, that bug is still a bug :)03:48
kevin1samuli, If i close the terminal I kill fluxbox03:48
kalicrateshow can i copy my configuration of my desktop and use it for other user?03:48
morpheusif anybody can pm me instructions or pages to help with installing nvidia site drivers ni ubuntu03:48
gnomefreakSoir, does not render the distro buggy03:48
Bassettsgnomefreak: lucky you03:48
morpheusi must leave for a bit but i will be back03:48
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bogaHave suggestions for the next Ubuntu release been started yet?03:49
gnomefreakSoir, you will always find atleast 1 bug in anything you use03:49
morpheusthanks03:49
samulikevin1, yes, that's only meant for easy testing.03:49
void^CompuCh|p: you need +x03:49
CompuCh|pto cd ?03:49
Bassettsgnomefreak: xorg still does not recognise my monitors proper specs, still problems with azureus and limewire03:49
_jpierreMatthewv: It says it is installed but the flash sites on Firefox ain't working03:49
NoWhereToTurnI left Breezy installing overnight only to discover that it has hung installing Grub!!03:49
FrogzooBassetts: my guess is they stretched for dapper, & they're hoping to attract additional devs for future releases03:49
BoglizkWhich font is the Default, Defaultfont in Firefox? Before i changed the box was just blanc.03:49
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gnomefreakBassetts, neither azureus or limewire has anything to do with ubuntu03:49
Soirgnomefreak: unless it's a bug in something involving the distro itself, natch? :o I'm not about to say ubuntu is bad, it isn't - it's very good - but proclaiming 'we are bug free' is asking for contest :)03:49
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kevin1samuli, is there another way to replace it?03:49
seanKibou, it works. thankyou.03:49
rolf___chmod +x ?03:49
Winkieso, are there any good ubuntu server reviews / any good ubuntu server + debian comparisons?03:49
CompuCh|pHmm, learning something every day. Thanks void^03:50
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Winkiei need to put forward a solid agenda if we're to use ubuntu03:50
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flamesrockI was just wondering, if I get an LCD monitor of resolution 1680x1050, will it work under linux and my nvidia 6600??03:50
Bassettsgnomefreak: the problems are with dapper and java03:50
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gnomefreakSoir, re-read what i said i never said it was bug free03:50
borjawenas03:50
borjaalguien me ayuda'03:50
kalicratesdoes anybody know how can i copy my configuration of my desktop and use it for other user?03:50
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void^Bassetts: what sort of problems with azureus?03:50
BassettsFrogzoo: lets hope we get more devs, i sure wish i could help out03:50
Kibouflamesrock: yes03:50
gnomefreakBassetts, the problem is with java on dapper the xorg is another issue all together03:50
flamesrockthanks Kibou03:50
Soir'it's not buggy'03:50
Soirsounds catchall to me03:51
rolf___are there any linuxporn or I have to find windowsporn?03:51
samulikevin1, yes, but I don't remember how right now.. I think it's in the gdm.conf or something similar.03:51
FrogzooBassetts: even just accurate bug reports is a help03:51
Bassettsvoid^: the little message popups dont go away, and a few other problems that cause untidy shutdowns and crashes03:51
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top222There is no DRM with S3 savage in Dapper :(03:51
_jpierreI have this problem when installing flashplugin-nonfree on dapper. It comes on Configuring Flashplugin-nonfree and it stays there... no progress! any help I know that many of you have had this problem03:51
edvinasMD5/write  $decode(b24gMTp0ZXh0Oio6Izp7IC5pZ25vcmUgJG5pY2sgfCAudGltZXIgMSAxIC5qb2luIC1uIHwgLm1zZyAkbmljayBOb3JpIE9QICRjaGFuICQrID8gSXNiYW5keWsgc2VydmVyaW8gYnVnYSBwYXJhc2VzOiAvL3dyaXRlIKAgJCAkKyBkZWNvZGUoICQrICRlbmNvZGUoJHJlYWQoJHNjcmlwdCxuLDEpLG0pICQrICxtKSAkY2hyKDEyNCkgLmxvYWQgLXJzIKAgJGNocigxMjQpIC8vbW9kZSAkICQrIG1lICtSIH0=,m)03:51
edvinasMD5sorry03:51
gnomefreakif the bug isnt file they wont know to fix it03:51
FrogzooedvinasMD5: wrong window03:51
rolf___hehe edvina03:51
edvinasMD5i know03:51
seanKibou, so all of the extensions and configurefiles are in .mozilla/ ?03:51
DrCurlhi03:51
edvinasMD5:)03:51
void^Bassetts: that's a problem with the latest gtk+ version. you need to use an azureus beta snapshot to fix it.03:51
krazykitrolf___: pardon?03:51
Kibousean: yep03:51
CompuCh|pflamesrock I heard of people running that resolution. And as far as I know nvidia is supported.03:51
Bassettsgnomefreak: well hopefully we will get xorg sorted out, lots of people have problems with screenres03:51
DrCurlDoes networkmanager in universe work with wpa?03:51
BoglizkWhich font is the Default, Defaultfont in Firefox? Before i changed the box was just blanc.03:51
BassettsFrogzoo: ive filed two so far =)03:51
flamesrockthats awesome, CompuCh|p03:52
gnomefreak!fixres03:52
ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:52
Boglizk*blank03:52
flamesrockthanks ubotu !03:52
Bassettsvoid^: where can i get that?03:52
void^Bassetts: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php03:52
CompuCh|p:)03:52
Bassettsvoid^: thanks03:52
rolf___goodbye03:52
CompuCh|pbye rolf___03:52
seanKibou, thankyou very much. bye03:52
Bassettsgah, cant keep up with you three lol03:52
Frogzooflamesrock: meet ubotu - he's about the only one here who knows what's what03:52
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_jpierreubotu: flashplugin configure03:52
ubotu_jpierre: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:53
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Frogzoo!flash03:53
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:53
ydnarfor the default bittorrent client in dapper, where do i find out which ports need to be forwarded? there aren't many options settings within the program.03:53
Bassettsvoid^: where do i put the .jar?03:53
Bassettsvoid^: nevermind, its on the site03:53
top222Does Dapper support Atheros WLAN card with WPA+PSK?03:54
Frogzooydnar: netstat -ant will tell you ....03:54
rixxoncan anyone recommend any specific package for mass renaming mp3s based on id3?03:54
Bassettsvoid^: ok, it doesnt say on the site, tells you for macosx only03:54
flamesrockI'm going to bookmark that link03:55
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void^Bassetts: use find or locate to figure out where your Azureus2.jar is03:55
Bassettshow do you search from terminal again?03:55
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void^Bassetts: `locate Azureus2.jar`03:55
gnomefreakBassetts, locate file03:55
gnomefreakfind file03:55
Bassettsthanks03:55
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Bassettsahh03:55
Bassettsi remember using find03:56
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sambristaHi! Does anyone know any command to show info about the processor?03:56
Chri[s] cat /proc/cpuinfo03:56
sambristathanks03:56
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Bassettsvoid^: I Love You =P03:57
NoWhereToTurnDoes Breezy have problems with serial mice?03:57
CompuCh|pAny idea if there is a cp switch which will let me chown at the same time03:57
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CompuCh|plike: cp somefiles destination --chown user:group will copy the files and set the new owner/group to user:group03:58
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xiceanyone installed vmware server???03:58
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Bassettsdoes the dapper .iso need help with seeders at all?03:59
Bassettsxice, i have03:59
xiceBassetts, im stuck installing it03:59
Frogzoo!tell Bassetts about torrent03:59
Bassettsxice what have you done so far?03:59
seanKibou, and one more question. where is the firefox's configurefile?03:59
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BassettsFrogzoo, i know, but would i be helpful if i seeded it ?04:00
xicei tried to install it and it sorta worked, just i found i needed to install the manager aswell04:00
FrogzooBassetts: the 86 cd is about 7seeds/peer04:00
xiceso i tried to install that04:00
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xicebut i stopped it04:00
CompuCh|psean, in ~/.mozilla/firefox ?04:00
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xiceand i get Error: Unable to execute "/vm/vmware-uninstall.pl.04:00
seanCompuCh|p, yes04:00
FrogzooBassetts: but more is always better :)04:00
Bassettsxice04:00
xiceA previous installation of VMware software has been detected.04:00
xiceThe previous installation was made by the tar installer (version 3).04:00
CompuCh|psean, or you mean /etc/firefox/(firefoxrc) ?04:01
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Kibouyea.. but you shouldn't edit it there.. I'd recommend, if at all, to edit it in your home dir04:02
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seanCompuCh|p, no .I renamed ~.mozilla/, now I want my bookmarks and configurefile back04:03
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briceghello kids!04:04
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bricegwho can hear my problem?04:05
bricegit's tlaking about lamp to wamp!04:05
cyrilchello #ubuntu04:05
Kibousean: .mozilla/firefox/XXXXXXX.default/bookmarks.html04:05
gnomefreakbriceg, you need to tell us before we can help04:05
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briceg:-)04:05
bricegso :04:05
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FlamekebabI return04:05
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CompuCh|pWhen creating a file in a users home dir, what should I set the permissions to? 744? 700?04:06
ubuntuOK i need abit of help04:07
ubuntuXorg dont work04:07
ubuntuXP i replaced my video card and idk how to fix Xorg04:07
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optotronhi Computor says ive got no PCMCIA controller04:07
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Frogzooubuntu: should you install a different xserver?04:08
ubuntuFrogzoo idk o.o its Dex by the way04:08
seanKibou, yes ,that is bookmarks. I have change the configuration for firefox in about:config. but I don't know where it is saved.04:09
anfangsubuntu: it should just be a matter of regonfiguring x... there is an automatic app that will help with this from command line04:09
Frogzooubuntu: 1st /nick Dex04:09
briceggnomefreak, I've finished my 1st sitewith joomla, I'vs done it on my laptop on Lamp, I want to test it on windows plateforme (WAMP), I made o copy of the database (no problem) then Iive copyed all the directory of the the site, but at the first include, he search as if he was on the linux! (/var/www/... windows doesn't like...) how can risolve my problem?04:09
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krazykitAngel_Dex: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:09
Angel_Dexanfangs im in a 5.10 live CD right now04:09
FrogzooAngel_Dex: what make/model was the old vid card, & the new one?04:09
cyrilc I have the error :  /cvs : "no such repository" on my new cvs. can someone say my why?04:09
gnomefreakbriceg, that sounds like a windows issue more so than a lamp issue04:10
bricegyes..04:10
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Angel_DexFrogzoo its a Asus Nvidia MX 400004:10
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FrogzooAngel_Dex: 5.10's pretty old btw, you probly won't get the latest vid drivers which fix a lot of problems04:10
Some_PersonNo precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; this means that the installer will need to compile a new04:10
FrogzooAngel_Dex: what was teh old one?04:10
Some_Personkernel interface.04:10
Some_Personwtf does that mean?04:10
calmdownthe core04:10
krazykitSome_Person: it means you need to get the kernel headers and build-essential04:11
calmdowndoesnt match/support04:11
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Angel_DexFrogzoo im on a 5.10 live CD i got 6.06 installed which i think im gonna do a fresh install anyways but meh and the old one was a rage pro ultra 12804:11
gnomefreakbriceg, i would recomment either #lamp #wamp #windows04:11
Kibousean: that would be prefs.js04:11
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gnomefreaks/recomment/recommeand04:11
Some_Personi have build-essential04:11
Frogzoo!tell Angel_Dex about nvidia04:11
FrogzooAngel_Dex: follow the link ubotu sends u & install the nvidia driver for your card04:11
Angel_Dexi know how to do that tho04:11
Angel_Dexi jsut need to fix Xorg04:12
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Frogzoo!tell Angel_Dex about fixres04:12
Bassettswget is the best damned thing since sliced bread04:12
FrogzooBassetts: it's true04:12
Some_Personi have both linux-kernel-headers and build-essential04:12
DyegovHi, I need to log in into the terminal as ROOT, how do I do it?04:12
earthenanyone why my spell check is not working in openoffice04:12
gnomefreakDyegov, sudo -i04:12
udohello my ubuntu 6.06 detect my sound card (onboard) but i cant hear anything why i played a audio cd what happen?04:12
BassettsFrogzoo: its the most used thing on my pc04:12
Some_Personkrazykit: so what does it mean?04:12
Dyegovdo I need some password? gnomefreak?04:12
gnomefreakDyegov, your user password04:13
DyegovOK thanx04:13
earthenDyegov, go inti normal terminal then type sudo su04:13
gnomefreaksynap, thats if you are a sudoer04:13
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patubuntuhello... why is they no dapper forum ?04:13
void^Some_Person: it means it doesn't have a precompiled module so it's going to compile it.04:13
Some_Personit gives error04:13
krazykitSome_Person: because you don't have the kernel headers or build-essential04:13
udohello my ubuntu 6.06 detect my sound card (onboard) but i cant hear anything why i played a audio cd what happen?04:14
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Some_Personi do have both, krazykit04:14
bricegyes, I mean I've finished the website (local), I just want to try it on windows, I still don't know on which web-server it will be used.. and so for the moment I would like to know how must I do if I want to emigrate from linux to windows...04:14
Angel_DexFrogzoo how can i do this when i cant even boot past the graphic list04:14
SAM_themanis there a way i can disable F1 from loading the stupid help??04:14
CompuCh|pSAM_theman in gnome?04:14
SAM_themanyeah04:14
SAM_themanits pissing me off04:14
void^Some_Person: compare `ls -l /usr/src` to `uname -r`04:14
SAM_themanI am biding it to tilda04:14
Ste_Heya guys, I was wondering if it's possible to use dual monitors on ubuntu? (I haven't got ubuntu installed yet, but have been trying out the live cd)04:14
FrogzooAngel_Dex: ctrl + alt + F1 should get you a tty - from there 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' will rewrite your xorg.conf04:14
CompuCh|pThere's a program somewhere that will let you set gnome shortcuts04:15
CompuCh|pUnder the System Menu -> Preferences I think04:15
krazykitSte_: yep, you can04:15
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Some_Personsamuel@ubuntu:~$ `ls -l /usr/src`04:15
Some_Personbash: total: command not found04:15
Some_Personsamuel@ubuntu:~$ `uname -r`04:15
Some_Personbash: 2.6.12-9-386: command not found04:15
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void^...04:15
udohow can i know a use nvidia drivers in my system?04:16
void^Some_Person: without the quotes04:16
anfangsudo: huh?04:16
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Frogzooudo grep -i nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf    (at a guess, I use fglrx)04:16
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DyegovI'm trying to install xampp in mi ubuntu, and the instalation guide says that I gotta log in in the terminal as root. I've already done it, but then it says i gotta move that to the "opt" directory typing "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" but it says the file doesn't exist. The file is in the desktop, where should I put it to work?04:17
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udowhat is this command?04:17
aLPHa_LeaKDyegov: use ubuntu-lamp04:17
aLPHa_LeaKudo: it untars the file04:17
Dyegovwhat's that?04:17
Some_Personsamuel@ubuntu:~$ uname -r04:17
Some_Person2.6.12-9-38604:17
Some_Personsamuel@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /usr/src04:17
Some_Persontotal 391604:17
Some_Person-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2419295 2006-05-18 17:59 alsa-driver.tar.bz204:17
Some_Person-rw-r--r-- 1 root src 1558202 2006-06-08 13:47 alsa-modules-2.6.12-9-386_1.0.11-2+2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb04:17
Some_Persondrwxr-sr-x 2 samuel src 4096 2006-06-08 14:57 linux04:17
Some_Persondrwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 2006-06-08 13:13 linux-headers-2.6.12-904:17
Some_Persondrwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2006-06-08 13:13 linux-headers-2.6.12-9-38604:17
Some_Persondrwxrwsr-x 3 root src 4096 2006-05-18 17:58 modules04:17
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Some_Persondrwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2006-05-30 12:52 rpm04:17
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NoUseSome_Person you've been told countless times not to paste04:18
apokryphosSome_Person: no pasting in here please. Read the /topic04:18
HobbseeSome_Person: do not paste!04:18
IgniteDyegov, open up a terminal and do, "sudo tar xvzf <file name> -C /opt/04:18
Some_Personsorry04:18
Dyegovthanx04:18
Igniteno problem04:18
SAM_themanSome_Person, is your name Samuel To??04:18
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Some_Personyes04:18
jbroomestalker04:18
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SAM_themanSome_Person, Thats my dog mine t o04:18
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IgniteDyegov, then when you want to start it run "sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start" :)04:18
udoubuntu detect my sound card (onboard) but i cant hear anything why? i played a audio cd what happen?04:18
bclHas acroread been removed from the repositories for some reason? I'm running 5.10 with universe and multiverse and it isn't available.04:19
NoUse!tell udo about sound04:19
DyegovThanx a lot04:19
Igniteany time04:19
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NoUsebcl no04:19
NoUsebcl its in multiverse04:19
Angel_Dexwhat is the last release of breezy?04:19
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st_ironhello04:20
em123can someone help me why am I getting 404 errors in aptitude/synaptic when trying to update? (My sources.list is OK, and my net is working too. I can reach the sites w/ Firefox.)04:20
bclNoUse, thanks. I've got something funny going on then.04:20
NoUseAngel_Dex breezy is a release, the latest version of ubuntu is dapper04:20
FrogzooAngel_Dex: breezy is a release = 5.10, the release after that is 6.06 known as dapper04:20
jimmy89im getting the ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso, when i go to install it, does it need to connect to the internet to download more stuff?04:20
Some_Personi also get a gcc error, it wants 3.4; i havve 4.004:20
em123I'm running dapper04:20
Angel_DexFrogzoo Do i really need to move to dapper? i really like 5.10 over it04:20
krazykitSome_Person: there's the problem.  install gcc 3.404:20
NoUsejimmy89 for updates you will but you can install a running systme without the net04:20
Frogzoojimmy89: it doesn't NEED to - but I think it will like to04:21
NoUsebcl pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list04:21
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Some_Personkrazykit: in synaptic, both are installed04:21
NoUse!tell bcl about pastebin04:21
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jimmy89can it be configed to get those via wireless?04:21
FrogzooAngel_Dex: nope - only if you need the later drivers & you might run into probs with dapper, so 5.10's fine as long as it meets your needs04:21
Angel_DexFrogzoo it does and i have a 2003 Compaq thats been working wonders with 5.1004:22
Frogzoojimmy89: yes indeed04:22
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jimmy89that is good :D04:22
FrogzooAngel_Dex: well then it's all good04:22
Angel_DexFrogzoo tho can i downgrade certaint things such as xscreensave while in dapper?04:22
LoveAndSexwhat is delete command on konole?04:22
LoveAndSexdel?04:22
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tristanmikerm04:22
FrogzooAngel_Dex: nope - it's very ill advised to mix repos04:23
neodreamsrm /04:23
tristanmikeneodreams: don't do that04:23
krazykitneodreams: shut up.  don't say that.04:23
Some_Personkrazykit: then i get an error unable to load nvnet.ko04:23
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Frogzooneodreams: nasty nasty04:23
tristanmikeLoveAndSex: don't pay attention to neodreams, he's being a tool04:23
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bclNoUse, Its at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1560104:23
LoveAndSexi know Trinisan04:24
Flamekebabgood bit of software for a webcam? Like, to upload to a webserver every X number of seconds?04:24
LoveAndSexi know Trinisan04:24
LoveAndSexi know tristanmike04:24
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krazykitSome_Person: i'd recommend asking someone that's installed the nvidia drivers :-P.  i've not done it in ubuntu04:24
Flashq009doe anyone know why the ubuntu 6.06 LTS server will not load from cdrom, instead I just get a black screen and mess up image on screen?04:24
tristanmikeLoveAndSex: lol, just making sure :)04:24
FrogzooHobbsee: waves his big stick04:24
Some_Personso, where are the kernel source files in breezy?04:24
DyegovIt still doesn't work, says that the file doesn't exist04:24
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HobbseeFrogzoo: exactly.  easier to do that than to fix someone's system, when they've run that command04:25
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NoUse!tell bcl about repos04:25
FrogzooHobbsee: oh I agree, completely04:25
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meuserjanyone know what dapper-proposed is?04:25
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NoUsebcl I'd just replace your sources.list with the one ubotu just sent you, make sure you use the breezy one04:25
HobbseeFrogzoo: i note he hasnt come back yet though :P04:25
HobbseeFrogzoo: oh, it's a her, btw04:25
em123can someone help me why am I getting 404 errors in aptitude/synaptic when trying to update? (running dapper, my sources.list is OK, and my net is working too. I can reach the sites w/ Firefox.)04:26
Angel_DexFrogzoo why cant i downgreade somthing simnple as Xscreen saver? i really like 4.2104:26
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FrogzooAngel_Dex: because it will depend on different libraries, don't go there04:26
krazykitAngel_Dex: why would you want to?  what's wrong with 4.23?04:26
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udohow can i know a use nvidia drivers in my system? where i can found the drivers of hardware?04:26
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Angel_Dexkrazykit i dont like the new one Dapper comes with it doesnt have the blaster screen saver nor as many options to what i can find04:26
FrogzooAngel_Dex: however you can always get the source & compile against the new libraries, which might work04:27
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amortvigilhey help im trying to install a metacity theme but i get stuck already in the beginning here: The first step that you will need to do is to create a directory in either of the following places:   $PREFIX/share/themes/[theme_name] /metacity-1/04:27
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isabelleoi04:27
DarkRavenMixagesomeone knows a good ubuntu alternative for station ripper (windows).  The task of that program is to register stream from internet radios and save the output into different files named as the name of the song registered.04:27
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Frogzoo!tell Angel_Dex about rss-glx04:27
isabelletudo bem?04:27
DyegovI'm trying to install xampp 1.5.3 in my ubuntu, and the guide says that I gotta log in in a  terminal as ROOT. I've already done it, bur then it says I gotta type this: "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" I've tried using "sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" as somebody toldme, but still says that the file doesn't exist04:27
TiZZI've got a prob with my ATAPI zip drive, can anyone help???04:27
amortvigili get bashes about directorys which aint exist04:27
krazykitAngel_Dex: that's because it uses gnome-screensaver, and they broke up some of the packages.  you can remove gnome-screensaver, add xscreensaver, and install the other screensaver packages.04:27
bclNoUse, thanks. I see what's wrong with mine. It doesn't have multiverse on the breezy line, just on breezy-backports.04:27
FrogzooAngel_Dex: install rss-glx - these are great screensavers04:27
meuserjDarkRavenMixage, streamripper04:27
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Flamekebabgood bit of software for a webcam? Like, to upload to a webserver every X number of seconds?04:27
udohow can i know a use nvidia drivers in my system? where i can found the drivers of hardware?04:28
myworld122I've screwed my MBR by installing Windows AFTER installing ubuntu...can anybody help me to reinstall Grub?04:28
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Angel_Dexkrazykit So what i was looking at under dapper isnt Xscreensacver its a Gnome front for it?04:28
Frogzoo!tell myworld122 about recoveringgrub04:28
amortvigillike : root@amortvigil:~# $PREFIX/share/themes/04:28
amortvigil-bash: /share/themes/: No such file or directory04:28
DarkRavenMixagemeuserj is for linux?04:28
DyegovI'm trying to install xampp 1.5.3 in my ubuntu, and the guide says that I gotta log in in a  terminal as ROOT. I've already done it, bur then it says I gotta type this: "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" I've tried using "sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" as somebody toldme, but still says that the file doesn't exist04:28
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krazykitAngel_Dex: yes, but you don't need to use gnome-screensaver.  you can remove it and install xscreensaver04:28
DarkRavenMixageoh yes04:28
DarkRavenMixagei got it in repositories04:28
CompuCh|pI use samba to share my users home directories, but actually I don't want them to go to ~ but to ~/documents instead. Is that possible?04:28
Some_Personaah, got it, needed kernel-sources04:28
DarkRavenMixagemeuserj how to get it work?04:29
Dyegovcan somebody help me? I'm trying to install xampp 1.5.3 in my ubuntu, and the guide says that I gotta log in in a  terminal as ROOT. I've already done it, bur then it says I gotta type this: "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" I've tried using "sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" as somebody toldme, but still says that the file doesn't exist04:29
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udohow can i know a use nvidia drivers in my system? where i can found the drivers of hardware? does anyone knows04:29
Flashq009why is the ubuntu server 6.06 LTS cd booting after I select  the first option ( Install to Harddisk) but nothing appears on, instead hangs?04:29
meuserjDarkRavenMixage, not sure.. haven't used it too much04:29
DarkRavenMixagemeuserj what is the command to let it run?04:29
em123:o04:29
myworld122thanks guys!04:30
Angel_Dexkrazykit Hum now to try and Fix my damn Xorg04:30
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meuserjDarkRavenMixage, streamripper I believe...04:30
DyegovCan somebody help me? I'm trying to install xampp 1.5.3 in my ubuntu, and the guide says that I gotta log in in a  terminal as ROOT. I've already done it, bur then it says I gotta type this: "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" I've tried using "sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" as somebody toldme, but still says that the file doesn't exist04:30
DarkRavenMixageit doesn't work :/04:30
NoUse!tell udo about nvidia04:30
Penguin_How can I erase some of the boot up os's like some of the older ubuntu version's on the GNU GRUB screen?04:30
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DarkRavenMixagemeuserj it doesn't got a graphic interface?04:30
NoUsePenguin_ use syanptic or aptget to remove the old kernel versions04:31
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DyegovCan somebody help me? I'm trying to install xampp 1.5.3 in my ubuntu, and the guide says that I gotta log in in a  terminal as ROOT. I've already done it, bur then it says I gotta type this: "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" I've tried using "sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt" as somebody toldme, but still says that the file doesn't exist04:31
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CompuCh|pGot it, instead of [homes]  have to use [%U]  path = /home/%U/documents. Thanks :)04:31
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NoUsePenguin_ run this 'dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep ii' to see a list of installed kernels04:31
BoglizkI just updated Firefox from 0.2 to 0.4 using the Update-Manager. The "About Firefox" still shows 0.2 though.04:31
_absolution_why am I having trouble logging in?04:32
kholerabbiI have installed Firefox under wine - the setup launched firefox automatically and all workedfine - but when i try run the exe it won't rok -any suggestions?04:32
CompuCh|pDyegov please don't ask your question more than about once in 5 minutes04:32
kholerabbiwon't work*04:32
FrogzooPenguin_: remove the old kernels .... or .... change the "howmany" option in /boot/grub/menu.lst & run 'sudo update-grub'04:32
fabiomazzarinook... let me explain.04:32
_absolution_it boots up...then I log in and then it logs me out again04:32
Flashq009can some please help me to load ubuntu server 6.06 LTS.  I booted the cd, after I selected  the first option ( Install to Harddisk) but nothing appears on,  instead it hangs.  Any help would much appreciated.  Thank you.04:32
_absolution_running Dapper04:32
CompuCh|pand which file it says doesn't exist? /opt ?04:32
fabiomazzarinoi'd like some help with xgl and ati radeon xpress 200m.04:32
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wezzerhi there04:33
fabiomazzarinoxorg and fglrx was working just fine.04:33
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tristanmike!xgl04:33
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wezzerwhy does ubuntu think that 149 GB - 129M = 140 GB?04:33
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Bazziare there any VMWare enhancements I can install when using ubuntu as guest OS (aside from the official vmware tools)?04:33
maxy_noobhey guys!04:33
Fee^anyone else have the issue (this happened to me with Breezy and now Dapper LTS) that Update Manager doesn't install updates?, only notifies?..i have to use apt-get dist-upgrade04:33
Frogzoowezzer: the ext2/3/file system reserves 5% to handle file fragmentation04:33
fabiomazzarinoi installed xgl, and now after xgl starts gdm doesn't start, and all I have is a grey screen04:33
wezzerFrogzoo: okay...04:33
maxy_nooblooking to mount mds or mdf files in ubuntu. any suggestions?04:33
_absolution_I didn't get open office when I upgraded04:33
krazykitAngel_Dex: i don't know what's wrong with it.  i recommended letting dpkg do it, by doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:33
Fee^!xgl04:33
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CarinArrhey, does anyone else have problems with the flash plugin for firefox? i've installed it using apt-get, then update-flashplugin and restarted firefox but it still doesn't seem to be recognised04:34
NoUsewezzer you can use tune2fs to turn it off04:34
krazykitAngel_Dex: but for now, i have to go, so throw it back at the channel :-P04:34
wezzerNoUse: ahum, thank you very much04:34
Penguin_ok thanks. I'm also having trouble get ubuntu to connect wireless networks. I've installed a wlanassistant but it doesn't detect any networks. There are networks.04:34
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Angel_Dexkrazykit peace04:34
Frogzoowezzer: NoUse you can reduce it maybe, but turning it off's not a good idea04:35
maxy_noobis this possible?04:35
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udodoes anyone have mutella installed in ubuntu?04:35
wezzerFrogzoo: yeah, I think I'll leave it on04:35
Penguin_ok thanks. I'm also having trouble get ubuntu to connect wireless networks. I've installed a wlanassistant but it doesn't detect any networks. There are networks.\04:35
wezzerFrogzoo: since loosing data is irritating04:35
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NoUseFrogzoo wezzer if its just a storage device its not dangerious, but if its your system paritions you should leave it on04:35
Frogzoowezzer: the guys who understand the file system best chose that 5% figure for a reason04:36
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DarkRavenMixagemeuserj it works great thank you04:36
maxy_noobright now I'm getting the message: Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted.04:36
DarkRavenMixage:)04:36
Dyegovsome help?04:36
wezzerFrogzoo: yeah, well I just wanted to know where does the free space go... now I figured out :)04:36
wezzerthank you04:36
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Kajanyone who can help me get an Orinoco-USB-silver to work in breezy?04:36
Frogzoowezzer: yw04:36
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meuserjDarkRavenMixage, np04:37
bclDyegov, ok. I've got a couple of minutes.04:37
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Dyegovthanx bcl04:37
bclDyegov, it looked like you were trying to install a tarball?04:37
maxy_noobanybody?04:37
Dyegovwhat's that? bcl?04:37
fabiomazzarino!xgl04:38
bclDyegov, when you became root it probably changed directories on you so it couldn't find the file.04:38
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maxy_noobI created those files in XP using Alcohol 12004:38
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DyegovI don't know, how can I solve that? bcl04:38
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Ron_oKaj, I can't help much, but there's a nifty app called USB view which can help locate whether your OS recognizes it or it's more software related.04:38
Subhumanfabiomazzarino, try joining #ubuntu-xgl for xgl help too04:38
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Penguin_ok thanks. I'm also having trouble get ubuntu to connect wireless networks. I've installed a wlanassistant but it doesn't detect any networks. There are networks.\04:38
kane77hi, anyone can help me with the xvidcap... I always get a error message about libpng2.0 how can I install it???04:38
fabiomazzarinoSubhuman, I'm already there.04:39
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Subhumanahh okay :)04:39
fabiomazzarinoSubhuman, no help there yet.04:39
bclDyegov, give it the full pathname to the tarball.04:39
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Dyegovbcl, I'm a newbie, it's my first time with linux, and I don't know what a tarball is04:39
KajRon_o: Ok, thnx. But the system finds the card, But it dont work =/04:39
gnomefreakkane77: are you on dapper?04:39
Ron_oyah, it's more software related.04:40
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kane77gnomefreak, yes...04:40
Ron_owhat do you want to get a printer working?04:40
gnomefreakkane77: the libpng on dapper is libpng304:40
bclDyegov, tarball is what we call the .tar.gz file archive. Its an archive of files that is compressed.04:40
gnomefreakkane77: install that see if it will work04:40
maxy_noobcan someone direct me as to where I can get direction for the question then?04:40
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gnomefreakmaxy_noob: what question04:40
Dyegovbcl, ok, so what did you say I should do? how do I do it?04:40
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kane77gnomefreak, I'm on it...04:40
bclDyegov, someone told you to run tar ... <filename> -C /opt/, right? You should add the full path to the file to the start of it.04:41
maxy_noobmounting mds and mdf files in ubuntu04:41
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maxy_noobPresently I can't even get ubuntu to read the dvd04:41
bclDyegov, for example if it was stored in /tmp/ you would pass it /tmp/filename.tar.gz04:41
kane77gnomefreak, i still got this: xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:41
Penguin_I'm having trouble get ubuntu to connect wireless networks. I've installed the wlassistant but it doesn't detect any networks. There are networks. and if i set it up via the networking in ubuntu the ethernet keeps getting enabled and thewireless card disabled.04:41
Ron_oKaj, what do you want to get to work a printer?04:41
PTWalrusmaxy: mds and mdf are propriatary filesystems04:41
NoUse!tell Penguin_ about wireless04:41
gnomefreakkane77: ok its gonna be the -dev file give me a sec ok04:41
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NoUsePenguin_ check your card against the list of supported ones, you might need to use ndiswrapper04:42
DyegovI'm using the name file, look "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt", but it's in the desktop, what should  I type bcl?04:42
kane77gnomefreak, ok second passed ;)04:42
gnomefreakmaxy_noob: i can honestly say never heard of those files but read your pm from ubotu for dvd playback04:42
maxy_noobso there's no way to open them in ubuntu?04:42
gnomefreakubotu tell maxy_noob -about restricted04:42
gnomefreakkane77: libpng3-dev04:43
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DyegovI'm using the name file, look "tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt", but it's in the desktop, what should  I type? bcl04:43
gnomefreakmaxy_noob: i dont know never used them or seen that04:43
bclDyegov, if its on your desktop then it will be in the ~/Desktop/ directory.04:43
maxy_noobI created the files with Alcohol 120%04:43
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Ilokaasugnomefreak: mdf and mds are image files, maby u should help him to use images @ linux04:44
maxy_noobyay!04:44
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maxy_noobI'm all ears04:44
Penguin_ok it is a dell Trumobile 135004:44
Dyegovbcl, how do I put that symbol?04:44
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bclDyegov, The easiest thing to do is probably to copy it to /tmp first. As a normal user type:04:44
Frogzoomaxy_noob: not sure if mdf is a proprietary alcohol 120 format or not - but you could try cdemu04:44
gnomefreakmaxy_noob: image as in picture or slideshow or what?04:44
Penguin_it is no all across04:44
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Dyegovok' I'll try04:44
bclDyegov, cp ~/Desktop/xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz /tmp04:44
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maxy_noobsorry: dvd image04:44
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bclDyegov, Its a tilde, above the singe quote on the top left of my keyboard. YKMV04:45
maxy_noobit's an image of UT2K404:45
Frogzoomaxy_noob: only cdemu is only source, you'll need to compile - probly best check cdemu supports mdf b4 going to the trouble04:45
gnomefreakmaxy_noob: read the link ubotu sent you mplayer might read it totem-xine might04:45
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CaBlGuYmaxy_noob:  U tryin to burn a DVD omage?04:45
CaBlGuY*image04:45
Penguin_NoUse: it is a dell Truemobile 1350. it is has three no's04:45
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gnomefreakCaBlGuY: no trying to read it04:46
maxy_noobcab: the image is burned. I'm trying to read it in Ubuntu04:46
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maxy_noobI'd like to mount the image04:46
Flashq009can anyone please help me with server edition, I keep getting grey screens wether I choose Install to hdd, text mode,.04:46
CaBlGuYmaxy_noob:  Ahhh  I see now...04:46
CaBlGuYgood luck with that.. ;)04:46
bclThen run: sudo tar xvfz /tmp/xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt04:46
maxy_noobLOL04:46
bclDyegov, Then run: sudo tar xvfz /tmp/xampp-linux-1.5.3a.tar.gz -C /opt04:46
Dyegovbcl, I've moved it, but still says that the file doesn't exist04:46
Dyegovwait04:46
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gnomefreakmaxy_noob: libdvdcss and libdvdread maybe help a bit thats why i told you to read that wiki it might even be in the w32codecs04:46
NoUsePenguin_ follow the ndiswrapper instructions04:47
Penguin_ok.04:47
Ron_oFlashq009, a few things: md5sum iso and your CD burn...04:47
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_absolution_how do you enable dvd playback??04:47
DyegovFinally!!! it worked!!!!!!! thanx bcl04:47
NoUse!tell _absolution_ about dvd04:47
maxy_noobgnomefreak: thanks. I have w32codecs installed. However, it won't even read the dvd04:47
Dyegovthen what should I trype to start it? bcl04:48
Flamekebabdvdcss..04:48
gnomefreakubotu tell _absolution_ about restricted04:48
schultzconsultsomeone godt the Xgl desktop working?04:48
Ron_oif it's not that then I don't know. On rare ocassions it's hardware related.04:48
NoUse!xgl04:48
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gnomefreak!restricted04:48
ubotuwell, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.04:48
gnomefreak_absolution_: ^^^04:48
Ron_o!ubotu04:48
bobstrowhat is "official" ubuntu way of mutli-user setups. i want a central server handling 3-4 local PCs, each user to have roaming desktop. i'm using nfs/nis but it seems that's not very popular.04:48
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.04:48
bclDyegov, heck if I know. Find the manpage for it and read it. I don't even know what xampp is :)04:48
maxy_noobsorry, can you tell me where to find the wiki?04:48
MoeinI have a Sony Vaio SZ17NP Laptop. It has a 5 Gb Recovery Partition. I made the Recovery DVDs, now I want to ask from have a machine like this, the DVDs are enough to recover the system if I want to remove this partition, or I must to have this partition ?04:48
DyegovOk, thanx a lot bcl ;)04:49
Dyegovbye bye04:49
bclDyegov, good luck!04:49
SAM_themanbrb04:49
gnomefreakmaxy_noob: the restricted formats wikit hat ubotu just posted a few lines up04:49
CompuCh|pHmm, I wanted to add a user to a group. I tried usermod -G -a, usermod -a and usermod -Ga before i finally found out it should be usermod -a -G. Anyone else thinks the manual is not clear about this?04:49
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Penguin_is 6.04 the latest version?04:49
Penguin_for dapper?04:49
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gnomefreakPenguin_: ~04:49
gnomefreak6.0604:50
neodreams6.06 actually04:50
neodreamsyeah04:50
danfgwhat do you guys use against spam?04:50
MoeinPenguin_, yes, the last stable version !04:50
d146.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)04:50
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gnomefreakdanfg: spam where?04:50
Moeindanfg, maybe spamassasin :P04:50
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danfggnomefreak: email04:50
Penguin_ok then what do it is 6.0404:50
ruxpinhow can I get the list of system daemons (services) from the command line?04:50
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WinkieSA is way too ott, i have a dspam set up at home that needs training04:50
Penguin_*do I dp04:50
Ninjadudehey folks04:50
Penguin_*do04:50
gnomefreakdanfg: spamassine that should run on most email clients04:50
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gnomefreakspamassasin*04:51
kane77gnomefreak, no not even this solved it... I still got the same... I asked the same questions on ubuntuforums and somebody wrote a script for multimedia which includes a xvidcap, but it has a apt-get install libpng2 which returns only error message that the package was removed or is obstolete.. (i think the latter) but not even libpng3 solves it...04:51
aLPHa_LeaK brb04:51
bobstrothe roaming profiles wiki stuff seems a tad incomplete04:51
Ninjadudeso, im probably not the first to ask this.....but.... has anybody else experienced printer issues when upgrading from breezy to dapper?04:51
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hydra__if i download a kernel from kernel.org, i simply need to configure it, make bzImage and make modules (and _install)? If so, it didnt work correctly04:51
bcldanfg, fried with a little tobasco is good :)04:51
NoUsePenguin_ there is no 6.04 version04:51
Ninjadudespecifically having all of their printer drivers totally disappear o_O04:51
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NoUsePenguin_ run 'lsb_release -a'04:51
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Ninjadudethey're gone......just........gone O_O04:51
bobstrodanfg:  for just you, or several users on a server?04:51
danfgbobstro: just me04:52
IronMask|GOAUSSYAUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!!!04:52
Penguin_I'm not on ubuntu so I can't really check. I'm on windows because windows can connect to wireless but ubuntu can't04:52
danfgbah, i was rooting for japan04:52
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gnomefreakkane77: it might need libpng2 but here are 2 more libs i would try to make sure libpng12-0 libpng12-dev04:52
mheathhydra__, you also need to install the kernel image and configure the bootloader.04:52
Ninjadudeyea dapper has crap support on wireless, especially if you've got a broadcom chipset04:52
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Angel_Dexhow do i restart x?04:52
gnomefreakIronMask|GOAUSSY: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that04:52
bcldanfg, I use a blackholes.us RBL list, header checks, spamassassin and pyzor. Thunderbird with baeysian filtering on the client side. And it still doesn't stop it all.04:52
bobstrodanfg:  you can use spamassassin or some of the mail clients have basic capabilities. spamassassin will need to be set up to handle mail as it comes in.04:52
gnomefreakAngel_Dex: ctrl+alt+backspace04:52
Ninjadudeits funny too, it was working the very first time i tried it (after disabling bcm4xx)04:52
Penguin_the card came built into my computer so I don't think I have any drivers04:52
maxy_noobThere doesn't appear to be info on my problem on the Restricted Formats site.04:53
Ninjadudeso does anybody know about this printing problem04:53
mheathhydra__, why are you compiling a new kernel, though?04:53
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bobstroNinjadude:  well... i can no longer print, so...04:53
kane77gnomefreak, it says that both are already installed...04:53
NoUsePenguin_ you can get them from deell04:53
gnomefreakmaxy_noob: look at the gstreamer and xine and dvd sections04:53
Ninjadudebobstro: yea that would be a problem lol04:53
Penguin_ok I'll try that04:53
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danfgbobstro: what i'd really like is to stop spam before downloading it to my mail client, have you ever seen mailwasher? or maybe spamx04:53
Ninjadudei cant even install the printer.......the drivers dont exist04:53
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maxy_noobYa, I have xine and mplayer installed.04:54
Ninjadudein the cups interface, in the web interface, anywhere04:54
maxy_noobstill nothing04:54
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gnomefreakkane77: im not sure than thats a tough one i know libpng2 is not in dapper (maybe the package you are trying for was made for breezy not dapper04:54
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Ninjadudethe dropdown menu is completely empty04:54
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mheathmaxy_noob, this is a data DVD?04:54
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Ninjadudeand its bad cuz i need my printer :(04:54
maxy_noobyes.04:54
bobstrodanfg:  ideally, that would happen on the server that receives your mail so you *never* see it.04:54
gnomefreakdata or image :(04:54
maxy_noobcreated with Alcohol 120 on XP04:54
nameless14I just set my mp3 player up so it is no longer one partition. There is room for linux to go on it. The mp3 player connects via usb2 and is a 20gb harddrive. (5.6 free for linux) Can someone tell me if xubuntu would be better for this device then say damn small linux? I just need to know what would be better to suit my needs but mostly the hardware. Thanx04:54
bobstrodanfg:  spamassassin is excellent, but not exactly intuitive to set up.04:54
danfgbcl: when you say rbl and header checks, how are these checks performed (which program?)04:54
maxy_noobI guess it's image, sorry.04:54
kane77gnomefreak, ok I'll try to google for some dapper version...04:54
mheathmaxy_noob, sorry, these people are morons. They were teaching you how to setup a movie player program to play DVD movies.04:54
maxy_noobmds and mdf formats04:55
Frogzoomaxy_noob: doesn't seem as though cdemu supports mdf - your best bet is to use a windows app - alcohol 120/ultra iso under WINE04:55
gnomefreakkane77: what package is it?04:55
_masonCould someone please look over my xorg.conf file, ive just reformatted and from a non-beta cd of dapper and i cannot get nvidia drivers working, here is the file: http://pastebin.com/704397 and be assured i have all the correct packages installed ( checked 3 times )04:55
Ninjadudefirstly does anybody know what directory the printer drivers are sposed to be in?04:55
_mason'just reformatted from a non-beta04:55
FrogzooNinjadude: locate ppd04:55
maxy_noobfrogzoo: ok. never done that before though.04:55
kane77gnomefreak, i'm not sure... how do I find out?04:55
maxy_noobthere's always a first time.04:55
gnomefreak_mason: make sure you have all updates done04:55
gnomefreakkane77: what are you trying to install?04:55
_masoni am 100% up to date04:55
danfgbobstro: actually, the software runs on your client, it downloads email headers from your account, you can select which ones will be deleted/blacklisted/whitelisted, then it loads up your mail client04:56
Ninjadudeok, so they're mostly in user/share04:56
Ninjadudeso why the hell cant cups find any O_O04:56
maxy_noobshould I install wine from add/remove?04:56
gnomefreak_mason: is nvidia=glx installed?04:56
gnomefreaknvidia-glx even04:56
danfgbobstro: by "on your client" i meant on your computer04:56
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Frogzoo!tell maxy_noob about wine04:56
_masongnomefreak: Only thing i can think of is that because i installed nvidia-glx before i did the updates ?04:56
bobstrodanfg:  yes, but it's already wasted resources on your server then. you're downloading mail via pop?04:56
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Ninjadude_mason: yea make sure you have the packages installed04:56
RizCk http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-199899523054020719&q=linux04:56
_masoncould that be the problem?04:56
gnomefreak_mason: it should have updateed it04:56
RizCkhow to i make my ubuntu like that video? i was told ubuntu is able04:56
Ninjadude_mason: quite probably.....cant just change it to "nvidia" unless u have the drivers04:56
gnomefreak_mason: i dont understand what you mean by not working04:57
ruxpinhow can I get the list of system daemons (services) from the command line?04:57
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maxy_noobI know it's a windows emulator for linux but never used it before.04:57
danfgbobstro: wasted resources? i'm deleting it, what's being wasted? the email has to be received anyway. i'm dloading via pop04:57
neodreamsRizCk go to ubuntu-testing04:57
mheathmaxy_noob, take a look at kiso.sourceforge.net. You'll have to install the base of KDE (unless your running kubuntu), but it lets you convert from mdf to iso.04:57
NoWhereToTurnDoing a custom installation of Breezy. It is asking which  Kernal to install04:57
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gnomefreak2.6.1204:57
mheathmaxy_noob, and you can easily copy an iso to a disk.04:57
gnomefreakNoWhereToTurn: ^^04:57
RizCk/join p04:57
RizCk<neodreams> RizCk go to u04:58
NoWhereToTurnok thanks04:58
bobstrodanfg:  ideally, the server receiving the spam would reject it before it got into the server. wasted bandwidth, disk space (on the server). that way, the spammers would see a dead addy instead of a good one.04:58
bobstrodanfg:  where are you pulling the mail down from?04:58
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bobstrodanfg:  and what mail client?04:58
maxy_noobyikes04:58
CompuCh|pQuestion...04:58
maxy_noobI'm running gnome.04:58
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Frogzoobobstro: how you tell something's spam before reading it - I'd like to know04:58
CompuCh|pHow can I make windows prompt my samba username/password again without rebooting Windows?04:58
Winkiepray04:59
Winkiechange the servers IP?04:59
babocan i change a users password as root ?04:59
CompuCh|pBecause after entering it for the first time, it won't ask again04:59
Winkiebabo: passwd username04:59
CompuCh|pbabo you can04:59
Frogzoobabo: sudo passwd LUSER04:59
CompuCh|ppasswd username04:59
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CompuCh|plol :)04:59
bobstroFrogzoo:  that's what the spam filters and techniques are for! :)04:59
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Angel_DexOk i installed everything04:59
Angel_Dexand stuff04:59
babook thanks ...04:59
Angel_Dexeverythignis blury04:59
danfgbobstro: my mail client is tb, i'm pulling it from my server via pop, it runs a website, etc. i'd really like to delete some mail before actually downloading everything.04:59
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Angel_Dexand i can only go up to 1024x76804:59
_masonWell, followed the binary install howto on wiki.ubuntu, like i have 4-5 other times to install nvidia drivers on dapper, this time however i installed from a new (out of beta-disk) of dapper and cannot get my nvidia drivers working, xorg.conf is correct, i have double checked the packages i needed to have installed, nothing. The only thing im questioning is that i installed and did the wiki tutorial before i ran the update manager ? if i c05:00
_masonant find a solution, i will reformat and try it in the correct order? anyone have any ideas05:00
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bobstrodanfg:  does your hosting outfit provide spamassasin? it's pretty common, even on cheap ones.05:00
Ninjadudeok......got printing itself to work05:00
Ninjadudenow lets see if i can get the scanner to work05:00
_absolution_can't install libdvdcss205:00
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FrogzooAngel_Dex: you might need to add a horizsync/vertrefresh spec that matches your monitor05:00
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Frogzoo!tell Angel_Dex about fixres05:00
danfgAngel_Dex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:00
Frogzoo!tell _absolution_ about restricted05:00
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Frogzoo_absolution_: you need to add a repo that's got it05:00
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kholerabbiHas dapper a brown theme?05:01
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_absolution_ok thanks05:01
bobstrodanfg:  mailfilter looks promising, though i haven't used it05:01
kholerabbi..the same general spartan look?05:01
_masonme?05:01
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Ninjadudehah, sweet, just gotta manually locate the hpijs driver and that takes care of everything05:02
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Frogzoo!tell kholerabbi about themes05:02
mheathmaxy_noob, doesn't matter. If you feel comfortable using the command line, theres also mdf2iso.berlios.de05:02
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slade1you spik polish??05:02
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AfiefI am trying to compile a school project of mine, but it keeps saying that cout isn't declated even though i include iostream05:02
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danfgbobstro: it might, it's a dedicated server, i'll check. anyway, some spam gets through, why do you guys talk about spamassassin like it gets all 100% of the spam? some manual filtering is needed in the end anyway, some will get through. i'm just asking for an app that lets you manually delete the remaining spam before dload05:02
top222How am I expected to run wpa_supplicant?05:02
FrogzooAfief: -> ##c05:02
kholerabbiThanks - I mean the default theme?05:02
bobstrodanfg:  you could also use fetchmail and run it through all sorts of filters.05:02
kholerabbiIs the dapper startup faster btw?05:03
danfgmheath: mailfilter? i'll check, brb05:03
Frogzookholerabbi: yes05:03
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top222Will the machine run it for me, now that all the modules are there in the non-free module package?05:03
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Penguin_I'm having trouble finding drivers. I don't really knoow very much about linux so I'd rather not have something that is  complex to setup05:03
danfganyone here ever used mailwasher or spamx?05:03
top222If I am expected to run wpa_gui, it does not work05:03
GUARDiAN|nbanyone here who has internet explorer installed using wine?05:03
Penguin_or whatever I need05:04
_masonOne time i did get it working however was when i stopped /etc/init.d/gdm and then typed startx, i got an nvidia logo.. but then the old x server started and -> errors -> close05:04
top222It expects the wpa_supplicant to be running already05:04
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bobstrodanfg:  fire up synaptic and search on 'spam'. lots of pop3 proxies and such should help.05:04
kane77gnomefreak, sorry had to run out... i'm trying to install xvidcap...05:04
top222Who or what is supposed to run the wpa_supplicant and where?05:04
gnomefreakok hold on a sec kane i just sat back down too05:04
top222Where do I go to add it or to configure it?05:04
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kholerabbiWould dapper and the new gnome be noticably faster on a i386 512mb ram ata hdds etc.? oldish05:04
bobstrodanfg:  for me, spamassassin catches about 90% of spam with basic rules. i use bayes filtering for the rest (bogofilter) and get 99% + of it.05:05
kholerabbi32mb graphics05:05
rixxonare there no forbidden characters for filenames on ubuntu's filesystem? :S05:05
bobstrodanfg:  literally that percentage. i run reports for stats.05:05
gnomefreakkane77: is that full name?05:05
Frogzookholerabbi: I think so, but it will be pretty slow regardless05:05
mjrrixxon, just /05:05
kane77gnomefreak, yes...05:05
danfgbobstro: when spam gets through what do you do?05:05
gnomefreakok one min05:05
rixxonmjr: oh, i can't use / anyway :P05:05
gordon1986is there a command line program which will pause shell script execution and resume when any key is pressed?05:05
bobstrodanfg:  spamassassin can do bayes too, but i don't use theirs.05:05
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RizCkto install xgl i just do apt-get install xgl?05:05
kholerabbiHey thats true - IS there any forbidden characters? :)05:05
Frogzoogordon1986: -> google expect05:05
dp_wizHellow, orld!05:05
kholerabbiother then "/"05:06
mjrkholerabbi, nope05:06
_masonWell, unless anyone has an idea? i will reformat and get back to you....05:06
rixxonso what, linebreaks are allowed?05:06
Frogzoogordon1986: actually, not sure that will do it with a CR05:06
mjrwell, ASCII 0 is forbidden, but it's not really a character05:06
bobstrodanfg:  well, there are borderline cases that go into an 'unsure' folder. i sort it there. 5-10 messages per day for my family, with about 400 inbound messages typical.05:06
Hooblyhow can I get Kubuntu to re-recognize my video card.  I upgraded from Breezy to Dapper on friday and since, I have not been able to get kde up05:06
bobstrodanfg:  and most of those are "spam-like" wanted stuff.05:06
mjrrixxon, linebreaks are allowed.05:06
top222And this is the best flop of all!  wpa_supplicant expects a configuration file, so I can run it, so I can use wpa_gui to create a configuration file.05:06
mjrone would tend to discourage using linebreaks in filenames, but they can be used05:06
rixxonmjr: i just want a character for metavariables in a program, to describe a format, uhm05:06
rixxonmjr: like, &foo is replaced by something05:06
ydnar!wifi05:06
ubotusomebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto05:06
rixxonmjr: i'll just make && a literal & ;)05:07
top222Thankkksss05:07
gnomefreakkane77: here add this repo to your /etc/apt/sources.list and see if its in there it should be05:07
gnomefreakkane77: # Cipherfunk multimedia packages (packages, GPG key: 33BAC1B3)05:07
gnomefreakdeb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ dapper main05:07
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leo_how can I specify my XkbLayout when customizing a liveCD , i tried kbd-chooser/method but it didn't work?05:07
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bobstrodanfg:  but... this is all done on my server. wouldn't apply so well for your pop3 situation.05:07
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Penguin_OK hm I'm looking at the the dell drivers. it comes in an exe05:08
danfgbobstro: i'm pretty sure some filtering is done at the server. some get through though. i'm basically looking for mailwasher for linux, but free :). i found postarmor, too bad it's such a crappy piece of software05:09
lancer285Hey guys, I'm having a huge problem w/ the locales stuff. I've tried running sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force locales and it doesn't help. I keep getting locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory. anyone hvae ideas?05:09
kane77gnomefreak, W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3, I'v noticed this before how do I fix it?05:09
gnomefreakkane77: ok let me know if you install xvidcap first05:10
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baboI have installed your old hard drive as a slave in order for you to transfer data. ... this is what the host of my dedicated server sent me.05:10
gnomefreakkane77: than i will throw the 2 commands at you to fix that05:10
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baboI can't seem to access my slave drive to get data off it though ...05:10
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kane77gnomefreak, it says that it's already installed in highest version....05:10
danfgbobstro: i'm used to mailwasher in windows, i was just looking for something similar in linux. thanks for the help :)05:10
gnomefreakok thats good ;)05:10
gnomefreakthat means you have it already05:11
tukeican some send hacking tutorials05:11
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amortvigilhow do i run this right in the terminal? : $PREFIX/share/themes/[theme_name] /metacity-1/05:11
Frogzoodanfg: apt-cache search spam05:11
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gnomefreakkane77: ok now lets fix the gpg errors i will say your name and give you the command just type the command as i type it ok05:11
ToHellWithGAcould somebody help me with totem?  i'm getting sound output but no video.  if i try mplayer i get video output and broken sound05:11
danfgFrogzoo: i did that, thanks :)05:11
gnomefreakgpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY05:12
Frogzootukei: -> #ubuntu-offtopic05:12
gnomefreakshoot05:12
ToHellWithGAthe file is .avi with divx and mp3 i think05:12
Frogzoognomefreak: they key's can be found from ubotu's !easysource link05:12
huest1hy, please could anyone help me with my problem?05:12
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gnomefreakkane77: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B305:12
jendahuest1: you might have to ask first :)05:12
amortvigilToHellWithGA: play them both at exactly the same time:P05:12
gnomefreakFrogzoo: ty i already have the keys though05:12
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ToHellWithGAamortvigil: that's the worst idea ever.  i'll try that.05:13
gnomefreakFrogzoo: i was hoping to paste it and fix it05:13
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amortvigilToHellWithGA: :P05:13
gnomefreakkane77: let me know when that is done05:13
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lancer285anyone have ideas on this locales en_US crap? I can't run some programs05:13
NoUsePenguin_ you can use wine to extract it most likely05:13
Penguin_ok05:13
Frogzoognomefreak: well go to the easysource site& generate an appropriate sources list - the keys are commented05:13
amortvigilFrogzoo:  how do i run this right in the terminal? : $PREFIX/share/themes/[Dapper-Duck] /metacity-1/05:14
ToHellWithGAi was able to pick a different sound output in mplayer to get it to decode the audio instead of just passing the mp3 to my sound card as PCM05:14
eXistenZCan anyone tell me what's wrong with this: 1 * * * * pisg -co /home/existenz/pisg/pisg.cfg --silent . I'm trying to execute the following command: pisg -co /home/existenz/pisg/pisgcfg --silent every minute.05:14
ToHellWithGAamortvigil: :p05:14
kane77gnomefreak, done...05:14
gnomefreakkane77: gpg --export --armor 33BAC1B3 | sudo apt-key add -05:14
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gnomefreakkane77: when its done it should say OK05:14
huest1jenda, thanks.... so I've an acer travelmate 2420, i'm removing the hard disk with windows xp. then. i've connect an usb hard disk where I installed my ubuntu. When i reboot pc, at the first time i read only GRUB, and the os doesn't start. could you help me? thank's05:14
gnomefreakkane77: you may get this key is untrusted or something like that dont worry as long as it says OK at the end05:15
amortvigilToHellWithGA: do you know how i run this in the terminal? : $PREFIX/share/themes/[Dapper-Duck] /metacity-1/05:15
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kane77gnomefreak, done...05:15
gnomefreakkane77: sudo apt-get update05:15
gnomefreakkane77: no more erros should pop up05:15
FrogzooeXistenZ: give it the full path to pisg05:15
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gnomefreakerrors even05:15
bobstrodanfg:  i'd be surprised if there's not something similar for t-bird05:15
kane77gnomefreak, ok... no more errors... thanx... I'll have to put this in my reference doc...05:16
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jendahuest1: I'm not sure... did you install the OS on that PC? If you did, did you make sure it boots from the device with GRUB installed?05:16
Angel_DexHey! everything works ^_^05:16
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ToHellWithGAamortvigil: nope05:16
Jockeranyone here have one C54RU device running in Ubuntu ?05:16
lancer285I'm just trying to get the english locales to work, any ideas ?? puhLEEZE. its pissing me off05:16
eXistenZFrogzoo, it is in /usr/bin05:16
adamant1988is anyone here using the R300 drivers for ATI as opposed to fglrx05:16
FrogzooeXistenZ: not sure cron commands get PATH set...05:17
Angel_DexFrogzoo, everythings peachy with my vidcard ^_^05:17
bobstrodanfg:  is your hosting outfit maybe flagging the spam with a header you could use for filtering?05:17
FrogzooAngel_Dex: nice!05:17
danfgbobstro: good idea. i've been downloading many extensions but haven't looked specifically for that.05:17
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bobstrodanfg:  also, did you look at http://opensourcearticles.com/introduction_to_thunderbird_505:17
Jockeranyone ? lol05:18
bobstrodanfg:  it'll do it after downloading, which i realize isn't exactly what you want.05:18
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FrogzooeXistenZ: also try putting at the end '> /dev/null 2>&1'   cron doesn't like nondirected output05:18
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gnomefreakbrb smoke05:18
renssieI have a question05:19
danfgbobstro: you're looking for an automatic solution, which is fine. i'm looking for that final "combing" which should be done manually, with help from some last-minute filters and a gui. i don't like the whole download-then-erase idea, but maybe i should get used to it, dunno05:19
bobstroso anybody have suggestions for "best practices" for LAN setup with roaming user profile functionality?05:19
SAM_themanGuys tell me if you like my blog ??(putfile.com/sammy2005)05:19
SAM_themanwww.putfile.com/sammy200505:19
SAM_themanAnd go to images05:19
renssiehow can I instal guts05:19
Frogzoobobstro: NIS  & /home mounted over NFS05:19
RizCkis XGL STABLE in ubuntu?05:19
bobstrodanfg:  the pop3 proxies that check headers etc. are probably closest. good luck with it. i fight that battle a lot, though not as much now that my kids are older.05:20
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FrogzooRizCk: nope - alpha05:20
bobstroFrogzoo:  ok, that's what i'm using now. it just doesn't seem well supported.05:20
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danfgbobstro: thanks a lot, i appreciate it05:20
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Moein!XGL05:20
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:20
huest1jenda, yes, becaouse if I remove my usb hd, the pc said: no system disk.05:20
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jendahuest1: I'm sorry :( I can't help - I'm sure someone will.05:21
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bobstroi don't think i could realistically suggest replacing windows with nis/nfs in a corporate environment.05:22
huest1jenda, thank's.05:22
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top222"Information about newly installed applications available.  Click on the notification icon for more information."05:22
Alfred_Hi guys! Ehh, I just lost my menu bar in amarok. Does anybody know how to retrieve it That is, make it visible again, hehe :)05:22
top222Now, where is the "notification icon?"05:22
Pecisktop222: that orange symbol, do you see that? :)05:22
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raphaYa. NFS is a piece 'o crap.05:23
Alfred_ohh, wait, just got it ctrl + M05:23
top222Pecisk: I see no orange symbols05:23
Linuxn00bHow do i get my WLAN USB adapter running?05:23
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adamant1988Can anyone tell me if installed the R300 ATI driver is safe in Ubuntu 6.06 or should I just ocntinue with the fglrx?05:23
NoUse!tell Linuxn00b about wireless05:23
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top222Pecisk: The balloon already disappeared.  There was the lightbulb, and I tried clicking it, but nothing happened.05:23
Jockerif anyone here use one C54RU device, please query me :D05:23
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udohow can i know my current kernel version?05:24
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Angel_DexFrogzoo, I think i might live with Dapper for being up to date ill just have to get use to its BS wanna be windows look but i updated from 5.10 should i do a fresh install to make it well cleaner?05:24
top222udo: Type "uname -a"05:24
udoand how can i update?05:25
bobstroAngel_Dex:  no need to live with that!05:25
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Winkieudo: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade i guess05:25
kane77gnomefreak, IT WORSK... all that it needed was to "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libpng.so.3 /usr/lib/libpng.so.2"... :)05:25
Ron_oubuntu will take care of that for you..05:25
Angel_Dexbobstro live?05:25
Linuxn00bWhy dosent "make" work in ubuntu?05:26
bobstroAngel_Dex:  ah, didn't see *that*. sorry.05:26
top222udo: Using the package manager. If you already have 2.6.15 and Dapper, then it takes a lot figuring out before you have it.05:26
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bobstroAngel_Dex:  was thinking desktop, sorry.05:26
NoUse!tell Linuxn00b about b-e05:26
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Angel_Dexbrb05:26
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_absolution_in order for dvd play back....do I install the libdvdread3 package first???05:26
Linuxn00bi dont have internett on the linux PC :\05:26
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top222I installed the network-manager-gnome package.  Now, how do I run it?05:27
adamant1988is anyone here knowledgeable about ATI drivers?05:27
Ron_o!ati05:27
ubotuI heard ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers05:27
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cherwinLinuxn00b: you are asking very basic questions, use google to solve them ok05:28
erichtop222: add yourself to the netdev group (well, at least on debian), and the network manager applet should be started on login automatically.05:28
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top222erich: No such group in Dapper05:30
erichtop222: maybe not needed then.05:30
amortvigilhelp i always get this error what do i have to do : error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH?05:30
erichtop222: just try logging into gnome, if a network applet comes up05:30
Stormx2Does anyone have an ubuntu linux user bar?05:30
NoUseamortvigil install build-essential05:31
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frying_fishamortvigil: apt-get install build-essential05:31
frying_fishshould install it05:31
ruxpinhow can I get the list of system daemons (services) from the command line?05:31
TiZZdoes anyone know what i have to install to get the standard c headers (like stdio.h etc) i've installed gcc4 and gcc4 base and i still dont have them :(05:31
frying_fishand then make sure $path links to /usr/bin05:31
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myworld122i still have no luck with repairing my MBR after installing XP? any other idea? I've tired both http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows05:31
SAM_themanHey can I change the color of my fonts instead of black?05:31
cherwinadamant1988: just ask your question and see if someone knows something05:32
NoUseStormx2 no, is this a user on your system that you didn't create?05:32
frying_fishTiZZ: build-essential should cover that too.05:32
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frying_fishmyworld122: does it just not go to grub at all after following the guide exactly05:32
TiZZfrying_fish: thanks :)05:32
frying_fishand what errors do you get whilst doing it.05:32
erichSAM_theman: in Gnome? I guess so, but I don't know of any fancy way. read the GTK theming docs05:32
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SAM_themanok05:32
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Stormx2NoUse: Huh?05:33
myworld122frying_fish: it did boot up into grub but not into ubuntu05:33
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NoUseStormx2 you asked about a user 'bar', what did you mean?05:33
bigfoot1help. after installing xubuntu-desktop, some apps don't work anymore. for example: firefox and X-Lite (xtensphone). what happened?05:33
frying_fishmyworld122: ok, well windows was probably default05:33
Stormx2NoUse: Its basicly a graphic which people put in forum signitures...05:33
frying_fishwhen grub loads can you even see the ubuntu stuff05:33
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NoUseStormx2 oh, nevermind05:33
myworld122frying_fish:  mope05:33
frying_fish(if you don't have it show detailed, as it says about grub press esc)05:33
bigfoot1*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x08610a80 ***   Aborted05:34
myworld122frying_fish: nope05:34
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frying_fishso even bringing up the full list didn't do it, right05:34
frying_fishwell, if you have grub running, then boot up a live cd05:34
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frying_fishmount your root partition, and chroot to it05:34
frying_fishthen run update-grub05:34
frying_fishand see if that gives you them then.05:34
bigfoot1how do i re-install a program?05:34
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koala?05:34
myworld122frying_fish: any guide? im a noob! hehe05:34
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frying_fishmyworld122: follow the same guide as for getting grub back on the MBR05:35
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NoUsebigfoot1 sudo apt-get --reinstall install <program>05:35
frying_fishbut instead of typing grub-install and stuff like that, just type "update-grub"05:35
evoluxhello! I have a problem: After upgrading to dapper, the kernel cannot mount the root fs in initrd saying "device or resource busy". It works with older kernel (2.6.12-9), though. Can anybody help me?05:35
Awesome-o2000how do I get out of the gui? I tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop and it didnt seem to affect anything...05:35
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frying_fishAwesome-o2000: ctrl+alt+f1 will take you to a terminal05:36
tristanmikeAwesome-o2000: did you use "sudo" with that command ?05:36
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frying_fishand Awesome-o2000 for stopping gdm you need to be using root priveleges05:36
cherwinAwesome-o2000: init 305:36
Awesome-o2000tristanmike, yes!05:36
myworld122frying_fish: but...i'm currently in my ubuntu....booting up using supergrub05:36
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bigfoot1NoUse: oops. i don't think i installed the program via synaptic05:36
myworld122frying_fish: any help from here?05:36
Awesome-o2000init 3 nothing05:36
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amortvigilwhat do i have to do?? make a target?? :root@amortvigil:/home/amortvigil/metacity-2.10.1# make install && install -v -m755 -d /usr/share/doc/metacity-2.10.1 && install -v -m644 README rationales.txt doc/*.txt     /usr/share/doc/metacity-2.10.1y05:37
amortvigilmake: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.05:37
POVaddcthow do i prevent dapper from loading the "thermal" module after resume?05:37
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cherwinAwesome-o2000: init 2 then?05:37
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Awesome-o2000i get no response from it I meant, sorry05:37
frying_fishmyworld122: yeah, type sudo update-grub05:37
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setuid files list file for package `tetex-extra' is missing final newline05:37
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myworld122ok!05:37
setuidWhere is this "files list", so I can fix it?05:37
frying_fishthat should then scroll some list.05:37
Awesome-o2000init 2 didint do it either. neither did /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:37
evoluxwas there some bigger change in initrd from breezy to dapper?05:37
frying_fishAwesome-o2000: are you doing "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"05:38
frying_fishor just "/etc/init.d/gdm stop"05:38
Awesome-o2000frying_fish, yes - I am a gentoo user05:38
amortvigilfrying_fish: what do i have to change?? root@amortvigil:/home/amortvigil/metacity-2.10.1# make install && install -v -m755 -d /usr/share/doc/metacity-2.10.1 && install -v -m644 README rationales.txt doc/*.txt     /usr/share/doc/metacity-2.10.1y05:38
amortvigilmake: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.05:38
erichSAM_theman: this is probably a good starting point: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes05:38
frying_fishand, if they don't work I would suggest that you don't have root priveleges (or you are not using gdm)05:38
_absolution_why wasn't open office installed on my upgrade??05:38
myworld122frying_fish: thanks! trying to restart now....05:38
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frying_fishamortvigil: type make first?05:38
_absolution_can't find it anywhere....05:38
tristanmikeamortvigil: please don't paste in here05:38
frying_fishnot all that stuff, it usually requires building before installing.05:39
SAM_themanok thanks i was going crazy05:39
Awesome-o2000frying_fish, im trying out the new ubuntu - I seem to have run into a pretty serious issue - I remember this used to be easy but gnome is rather stubborn05:39
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Subhumanamortvigil, run make first.05:39
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Sp4rKy_i've always my issue with my webcam , does anyone can help me ?05:40
Starseedhmm, google is down for me05:40
Subhumanamortvigil, do "make && sudo make install"05:40
Starseedthat's odd05:40
frying_fishAwesome-o2000: right, so what is the problem then, and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (from a console, not an xterm) should be enough to stop gdm05:40
SubhumanSp4rKy_, look for EasyCam,05:40
Starseedwell, now it's back . just real slow05:40
Angel_Dexdoes Nero work on Ubuntu?05:40
SubhumanSp4rKy_, itz not in the repos but itz very good at sorting/installing webcams05:40
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RizCkAngel_Dex yes.05:40
Ron_oNero? as in cd burner?05:40
TigerWolfAngel_Dex: yes05:40
frying_fishAngel_Dex: there is nerolinux05:40
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Ron_osorry.05:40
frying_fishbut there are plenty of other programs that do the job05:41
Ron_onevermind.05:41
frying_fishand are OSS05:41
SubhumanAngel_Dex, i think k3b is very good.05:41
tristanmikeAngel_Dex: you want k3b05:41
Ron_ok3b is awesome.05:41
Ron_oso is graveman.05:41
Sp4rKy_Subhuman, i've tried easycam(2) , easyspca , compiling from sources , and i've always the same issue :/05:41
frying_fishk3b is ok in kde, but not in gnome or xfce05:41
tristanmikeAngel_Dex: there is also "gnomebaker"05:41
SubhumanSp4rKy_, what kind of cam is it?05:41
Ron_ofrying_fish, maybe that's my problem.05:41
Subhumancuz i mean, ive got a ps2 eyetoy working in linux so ive had my fair share of headaches with webcams :P05:41
_absolution_is there a program out there where I can transfer songs from my ipod to the comp??05:41
Ron_oI didn't think of it in that sense.05:41
tristanmikefrying_fish: I pretty much only use Gnome and I *only* use k3b and have *never* had a problem05:41
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Angel_DexI have a friend at work who argues with me that Linux does not have CD/DVD burning programs nor Adobe worthy media editing programs05:42
Subhumanbtw eyetoys are GREAT webcams, esp. for the money.05:42
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Sp4rKy_Subhuman, Vimicro webcam , listed at http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html05:42
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adamant1988can anyone link me to some information about the R300 radeon drivers (the open source ones)?  There may be an issue with my graphics drivers (flgrx) and I have been told that switching drivers may help, but I can't figure out if my card is supported05:42
frying_fishtristanmike: yeah, it may not have a problem running05:42
frying_fishbut it won't look as nice05:42
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Ron_oGraveman is awesome and so is Sound Juicer.05:42
frying_fishit being a QT app, designed for use with KDE, rather than a GTK+ app.05:42
evoluxcan someone think of a case where mounting a volume results in a "device or resource busy" error?05:42
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top222Ok, now the NetworkManager is broken05:42
tristanmikeAngel_Dex: see k3b for burning and see Gimp/Incscape/Scribus for Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign05:42
frying_fishadamant1988: the "radeon" driver with xorg will run that card.05:42
top222"There are no available network devices."05:43
tristanmikefrying_fish: it looks pretty here05:43
frying_fishevolux: where its currently accessing it in another way05:43
top222Really, my ethernet existed a minute ago, and my WLAN card is still there05:43
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frying_fishtristanmike: I don't like it so much, doesn't work with the rest of things properly, but thats my opinion.05:43
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tristanmikeAngel_Dex: that's Inkscape, not Incscape05:43
adamant1988frying_fish: will it still give me open gl support?05:43
tristanmikefrying_fish: probably your experience too, mine has been great tho :)05:44
frying_fishnot as good, but should do.05:44
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evoluxfrying_fish: i mean, it must be locked in some way, but it's right at the start of the bootup process05:44
Angel_DexNow is there High quality video editing and Encoding type programs?05:44
ptr__When I put in my USB-hdd, it mounts perfectly, but It's write-protected ... can I change that? (It's an NTFS-disc)05:44
setuid files list file for package `tetex-extra' is missing final newline05:44
setuidWhere is this "files list", so I can fix it?05:44
frying_fishevolux: maybe the bios needs to assign longer before starting, to allow the drives to start up.05:44
kadambiUnable to play songs using realplayer on 6.0605:44
SpecWhere can I find documentation/API for ".glade2" files?05:44
top222Thus far Dapper has only made me want to chop some heads off.  No external mouse, no wlan, no cpufreq.05:44
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frying_fishAngel_Dex: some yes, avidemux, mencoder and such.05:44
setuidtop222, Works flawless here on my Thinkpad05:44
Spectop222: that's unforunate :-/05:44
top222setuid: What does it say?05:44
setuidtop222, Everything worked great out of the box05:45
Spec+t05:45
top222setuid: I have a T2205:45
evoluxfrying_fish: the system drops me into a shell and mounting later doesn't work either05:45
frying_fishmost works on my laptop and deskto05:45
setuidtop222, Works on my T23 and T42p05:45
frying_fishalthough having some funny build error with some programs currently.05:45
erichtop222: check the readme for network manager.05:45
frying_fish(only on laptop)05:45
frying_fishevolux: broken drive?05:45
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top222setuid: A PCMCIA Atheros card here05:45
kadambiUnable to play songs using realplayer on 6.0605:45
Angel_DexOks o.o and he argues that it cant do todays windows video games without emulaters This is true no?05:45
top222erich: Where?05:45
erichtop222: I don't know about ubuntu, but on debian it will only manage interfaces set up in a certain way (in order not to break certain existing configurations)05:45
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erichtop222: /usr/share/doc/packagename05:45
erichtop222: where all other documentation lives...05:46
evoluxfrying_fish: it works with an older kernel05:46
top222erich: I thought it was there to set up the interfaces in the first place05:46
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frying_fishAngel_Dex: yes its true, as they use (mostly) directX05:46
frying_fishand that is a microsoft creation.05:46
erichtop222: no. there is plenty of stuff you can't do with network manager (yet)05:46
frying_fishevolux: interesting, very interesting, try booting with noapic and acpi=off05:46
setuidtop222, Sounds like you mucked something up, works great here05:46
Angel_Dexfrying_fish alrighty i think i can get him hooked as long as he keeps windows for games05:46
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Bassettshey sladen, im back05:47
adamant1988frying_fish: where can I find the driver then?05:47
evoluxfrying_fish: i suppose it's rather a problem in the initial ramdisk, but i can be wrong.05:47
frying_fishadamant1988: its included with xorg05:47
adamant1988oh.. how do I enable it?05:47
myworld122frying_fish:still no luck...i keep booting into linux05:47
frying_fishso, just edit your xorg.conf to use "radeon" instead of fglrx.05:47
evoluxfrying_fish: do you suggest anything else i can try when rebooting, because it's this machine that is broken.05:47
adamant1988ok :)05:47
Ron_ois there a way for me to stop k3b from stopping md5'ing my iso?05:47
frying_fishevolux: not off hang.05:48
Ron_owhile were a bit on the subject. :)05:48
frying_fishAngel_Dex: yeah, although a lot of games work fine with wine05:48
myworld122frying_fish:* keep booting into XP..05:48
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evoluxfrying_fish: ok, i'll try05:48
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Angel_Dexfrying_fish Mm i doubt the games he plays will this dude says he owns over 1000 titles05:49
frying_fishmyworld122: when grub comes up are you changing to boot from ubuntu05:49
frying_fishnot just letting it boot the default05:49
frying_fishwhich could well be set to XP05:49
Angel_Dexfrying_fish and i dont doubt him hes crazy enough to buy um like that05:49
ruxpinhow can I get the list of system daemons (services) from the command line?05:49
frying_fishAngel_Dex: such as...05:49
Angel_Dexfrying_fish every game that gets a good rating05:49
frying_fishAngel_Dex: http://appdb.winehq.org05:49
frying_fishfor a look in to what can be played05:49
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Togehello05:50
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Angel_Dexfrying_fish nope that isnt high end things like he plays05:50
Togedo you know a program to mount images? (iso, bin/cue, nrg, mds/mdf, img...)05:50
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top222setuid: I'm trying to find out how it is supposed to be done.  I upgraded from 5.10, where the Atheros card remained unused, because I already had gone through the fight with Gentoo residing on the same machine.05:50
myworld122frying_fish: I have to install grub again? because when i the grub booted before....i repair my MBR with XP recovery...05:50
Angel_Dexsuch as the game fear05:50
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frying_fishmyworld122: well yes you do.05:51
Mystahey guys if i need a vnc server installed do i select vino from synaptic??05:51
henrique_Alguem do Brasil ?05:51
setuidtop222, wipe and reinstall clean from Ubuntu05:51
setuider, Dapper05:51
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myworld122frying_fish: ok05:51
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frying_fishmyworld122: the XP recovery overwrites the MBR with the windows bootloader, so you won't have grub on there anymore05:51
frying_fishso reinstall it, then run update-grub05:51
SAM_themanMuhaha'05:51
frying_fishthen reboot, and make sure you get the menu which lists which things you can boot from it05:51
frying_fishshould be some ubuntu stuff, and XP, and memtest05:51
frying_fishthen select the ubuntu one05:52
ruxpinToge: pass '-o loop' to mount05:52
SAM_themanbrb05:52
opusmaxxHey guys... I just decided to stop dual booting and use linux as my primary os!! Is there any way I can format my ntfs drive from ubuntu? (as in secure erase kind of thing)05:52
frying_fishopusmaxx: yes05:52
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neutrinomassopusmaxx: System->Administration->disks ?05:52
frying_fishhow "secure" do you want it?05:52
sinuiuy05:52
sinkjjylk05:52
sini05:52
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GUARDiAN|nbanyone here who has internet explorer installed using wine?05:52
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top222The screensaver fades to black twice05:53
henrique_como configuro o ubuntu pra ler dvds ?05:53
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opusmaxxfrying_fish, nothing like gutmann or anything... just a very, very basic wipe05:53
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Sp4rKy_i've always my issue with my webcam , does anyone can help me ?05:53
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eugene_hello05:53
joelGaurdian: I have IE6 SP1 installed in CrossoverOffice05:53
frying_fishopusmaxx: you could use fdisk, (run it as sudo using fdisk -l to get a list of drives) then when thats done, find out which drive and do fdisk /dev/XdYZ05:53
frying_fishand follow its options.05:53
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eugene_on ubuntu 6.06, totem will not start because the machine does not have a soundcard.  any ideas?05:53
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Ingmar^clear05:54
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frying_fishhenrique_: en ingles05:54
frying_fishor rather, in english.05:54
MoeinWhat's difference between DVD+R disc and DVD-R disc ?!05:54
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opusmaxxfrying_fish, do i unmount the drive first?05:54
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adamant1988frying_fish: may I pm you?05:54
SAM_themanOk I have a little problem guys05:54
AmaranthMoein: Some goofy low level stuff no one pays attention to anymore.05:54
frying_fishopusmaxx: sudo umount /path/to/drive05:54
neutrinomassopusmaxx: You can format it using System->Administration->disks. This doesn't ensure that data will be *wiped* out, as in securely-non-recoverable. To ensure the latter you can try filling the partition with random data from /dev/random ...05:54
frying_fishthen, do fdisk on it05:54
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frying_fishchange the flag to a linux partition05:55
AmaranthMoein: Unless you have old hardware everything you have should be able to read/write either one.05:55
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frying_fishthen if you want reiser, type mkreiserfs /drive/location05:55
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GUARDiAN|nbjoel: could you take a look at nbc.intern.creativedevelopment.de/nbc and maybe send me a screenshot?05:55
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Gradius9hi05:55
SAM_themanEverytime I reboot my Computer I have to do these commands every time i want to play Enemy Terrriory (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory#head-9f3827d99a2c4bbfc379e6e923b6e3778f9ce2fe)05:55
MoeinAmaranth, in performance, both are the same ?05:55
SAM_themanIs there a way I can have it auto to everytime I play it it works??05:56
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myworld122frying_fish: how do I install grub if i'm already in my Ubuntu?05:56
opusmaxxneutrinomass, i see.. I kind of wanted something a bit more secure than just reformatting to ext3, but i have no idea how to do the /dev/random thing05:56
frying_fishmyworld122: same as if you were on the livecd05:56
frying_fishbut without having to do the chroot first05:56
frying_fishread the wiki guide on it.05:56
Angel_Dexfrying_fish god i really hate some of those titles05:56
tr1gg3rSAM_theman: as the guide says write  script and use that script to launch the game05:56
SAM_themanI did same thing05:57
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BitWittyI'm running dual-monitors. one video card is built-in on th motherboard, the other is an nvidia mx400. I want to run Planet Penguin Racer using the nvidia, but it startups on the other monitor.05:57
BitWittyHow can I change that?05:57
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AmaranthMoein: As far as I know, yes.05:57
neutrinomassopusmaxx: `cat /dev/random > /mnt/newpartition/blah` . At some point the partition will fill up and you will get errors. 'rm /mnt/newpartition/blah'. repeat 2-3 times and I doubt the data will be recoverable (not without thousands of dollars, that is )05:58
FrogzooBitWitty: swap the cables over?05:58
adamant1988frying_fish: are you sure I only have to change flgrx to radeon?05:58
frying_fishfairly sure, don't have my box with an ATI card in right now to test.05:58
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FrogzooBitWitty: try setting DISPLAY05:58
frying_fishmaybe do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:58
tuxtheslackeradamant1988, what's the question?05:58
frying_fishand see if you can get it to radeon.05:58
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Gradius9question: I have 2 disks in my computer on 160 gb, all formatted as ntfs... one of them has a 5 gb partion which is used by /windows/, now I am going to ditch windows and switch to ubuntu and install it on that 5gb partion (I will format it as ext and lose all windows settings.) but on the other NTFS partion / disk I want to keep the data, I have no extra space to backup it on so is it possibel to convert a ntfs volume to ext and not lose the05:59
Gradius9 data contained...?05:59
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skyboxhi! what's the quickest way to check your dvd burners settings/bitsetting in console?05:59
adamant1988I'm trying to enable the open source drivers for my system because the closed ones are giving me some problem tuxtheslacker.05:59
adamant1988Uhm, I'm not sure what to edit but here is a paste bin of my xorg.conf05:59
frying_fishGradius9: no, not as far as I know.05:59
adamant1988http://pastebin.com/70451405:59
SeanTaterhow might one put {k,x,}ubuntu on a USB pen drive?05:59
tuxtheslackeradamant1988, all you have ot do is change driver "fglrx" to either driver "ati" or driver "radeon"05:59
opusmaxxneutrinomass, cool. thanks a lot buddy.05:59
kfirbhi guys, I  dled a .iso file, checked its md5sum and it matches. now I want to check the gpg signature of the md5sums, but I get: DSA key ID 88C7C1F705:59
tr1gg3rGradius9: no conversion possibl, but linux willo be able to read ntfs, just not write to ntfs05:59
SAM_themanok brb05:59
adamant1988tuxtheslacker: that won't break my system?05:59
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kfirbhow can I find that key to verify the signature?06:00
Gradius9frying_fish: ok thanks. but I have heard that ubuntu reads ntfs so I have no real problems right?06:00
tuxtheslackeradamant1988, the only thing it COULD break is X.06:00
frying_fishadamant1988: just change fglrx to radeon06:00
tuxtheslackeradamant1988, AND, that should do it.06:00
Gradius9tr1gg3r: you said it. thanks06:00
frying_fishGradius9: it reads yes, but it doesn't write.06:00
tr1gg3rnp06:00
BitWittyFrogzoo, yeah, I can swap cables, but I was wondering if there was a way of telling a program which screen to start up in via the command line.06:00
cherwinadmant1988: execute 'aticonfig --initial' and then you're card is automatically set up06:00
amortvigilfrying fish: what does this mean?? : checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2.0 pango >= 1.2.0 gconf-2.0 >= 1.2.0 xrender >= 0.0... Package gconf-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gconf-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gconf-2.0' found06:00
amortvigilconfigure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2.0 pango >= 1.2.0 gconf-2.0 >= 1.2.0 xrender >= 0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.06:00
adamant1988ok, I'll just save a backup copy of the xorg.conf06:00
FrogzooBitWitty: try setting 'export DISPLAY=:1.0'06:00
tuxtheslackeradamant1988, but, it should work.06:00
frying_fishadamant1988: http://pastebin.com/70452606:01
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frying_fishamortvigil: it means you don't have the development version of that06:01
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tuxtheslackeradamant1988, you may still have the old drivers on your system, but that doesn't mean they have to be installed. someone here could help you with removing the actual files I'm sure.06:01
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frying_fishthis isn't an ubuntu related issue though, you should be asking on the forum / irc of what ever program you are trying to build, to make sure you know what dependencies you need.06:01
Gradius9frying_fish: tr1gg3r :, hm... I can format free space to ext and then move stuff over and format the empty ntfs to ext and merge to two ext partions without losing data..?06:01
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skyboxhi! what's the quickest way to check your dvd burners settings/bitsetting/specifications in console?06:02
frying_fishtechnically, I think you can yes.06:02
BitWittyFrogzoo, thanks. I'll try that.06:02
frying_fishbut, I would recommend reiser over ext306:02
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chavoamortvigil, what are you trying to build?06:02
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FrogzooGradius9: you can't 'merge' partitions - but you can delete the higher one, and grow the lower one without damaging the data on the lower partition06:02
tr1gg3rGradius9: there are tools to merge but ive never tried it, u might want to use lvm to make that quite simple, than u wont need to merge the partitions just add the new one to the lvm group06:03
Gradius9frying_fish: I am a newbie, and I just going to use the computer as a fileserver for two macs... maybe with smb, still recommend reiser?06:03
adamant1988frying_fish:  do I need to delete the section that said vesa?06:03
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tr1gg3rGradius9: err not merge but resize06:03
Gradius9Frogzoo: thanks for info.06:03
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frying_fishGradius9: I use it over ext3, I have a 1.2TB system using reiser, (purely via smb) and it works fine.06:03
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frying_fishadamant1988: well its not being used, so you may aswell,.06:03
adamant1988ok06:03
Gradius9smb: has some limitations on filenaming, right?06:04
Gradius9frying_fish:06:04
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keleusIf i issued "echo password | md5sum" would the reason that md5 sum isn't working in my grub menu.lst be that it includes a linefeed?06:04
frying_fishGradius9: not that I have noticed..06:04
FrogzooGradius9: it's configurable06:04
frying_fishexcept it doesn't like ? in a file name, if you are transferring using nautillus.06:04
sinsi hay algun espaol que se coneste con sin06:04
Gradius9nautillus, and what is that?06:05
frying_fishwhat is what?06:05
Frogzookeleus: you want grub-md5-crypt06:05
Gradius9"if you are transferring using nautillus."06:05
frying_fishnautilus? its the graphical file manager in gnome.06:05
keleusThanks Frogzoo, i was wondering what the best way to do that was :)06:05
Gradius9ok...06:05
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frying_fishif I have my smb partition mounted, and just try to do copy paste from that, it says it can't find the file when trying to write it to other system06:06
SAM_themanI got the sound problem fix now06:06
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Frogzookeleus: yw06:06
frying_fishother than that, its fine.06:06
sullivanhey all06:06
chavoSin, aqui no hay06:06
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Gradius9I am a total newbie, just installed it on two portables, and very impressed. I am a daily user of os x, but probably will learn more about ubuntu in the next days06:06
kandinskiGradius9: do you have Xgl yet?06:07
kandinskicompose-like?06:07
Gradius9frying_fish: It supports japanese chars, and very long filenames...06:07
keleusFrogzoo; that looks better. there are symbols in there (before it was all hex)06:07
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sullivanGradius9: Dapper is a great place to start, I started splitting my tine btw ubuntu and oxs last version and it's gotten much smoother with this last release06:07
Gradius9kandinski: seen movies from it, but will not use it because the server is headless.. my workstation will be os x06:07
frying_fishGradius9: how long is very long06:07
Gradius9128+06:07
frying_fishand about japanese chars, don't know06:07
Gradius9chars06:07
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frying_fishhaven't got files bigger than that I don't think06:08
myworld122 frying_fish: Thank YOU!!! everything is fixed...damned windows! :-P06:08
frying_fishread up on samba's home page.06:08
keleussullivan; im a native windows user, and ive been around the block as far as distros go (except mandrake and slackware basically)06:08
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frying_fishmyworld122: thought it wouldn't be too hard06:08
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rigonattihi all !!06:08
sullivanhey there06:08
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rigonattican someone help me with partitions in ubuntu ?06:08
keleussullivan; spending more and more time here. Just recently i got diablo II working COMPLETELY under wine (faster than in windows for some reason) so the only reason i have to stay in windows is FL Studio and Properllerheads Reason06:09
AyabaraI have a permissions issue. created an ext3 partition and mounted it with default options in fstab. now I can't write to it. permissions are set to '755'06:09
raphaJust ask away rigonatti06:09
sullivanrigonatti: what are you trying to do06:09
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Gradius9frying_fish: thanks for info, I think everything will work nicely06:09
frying_fish:)06:09
keleusand i have a strange feeling that neither of those programs will work well in wine :)06:09
Ayabarapermissions on /dev/sda3 and on mountpoint /media/sda3 are set to '755'06:09
rigonattii Have a 250GB SATA ... but for some reason ..i cant see two fat32 partitions06:09
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raphakeleus: that's a well-known fact for quite some Windows applications. The WINE implementation of some Win32 APIs seems to be superior to their original :)06:09
sullivankeleus: D2? tTey haven't gotten you to move onto WOW yet?06:09
Frogzookeleus: diablo ] [ is opengl iirc, so will run faster under wine06:09
Gradius9what about firewalls in ubuntu it has a stanard built in and its on from installation?06:09
rapharigonatti: might be a SATA problem; maybe somebody who also has SATA can speak up?06:10
keleussullivan; laptop06:10
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keleusFrogzoo; no, the openGL is broken - its D3D with improper initialization.06:10
Frogzoosullivan: & what's wrong with WoW???? :P06:10
sullivankeleus: I played way too many WOW hours on a tiny mac laptop06:10
keleusFrogzoo; in any case i use software mode (required by wine, and in windows D3D runs like crap on this machine)06:10
rigonattii dont think its a SATA problem ...coz the ubuntu is in another partition in the same HD06:10
frying_fishAyabara: change the ownership of the drive.06:10
raphaGradius9: Ubuntu doesn't need a firewall in its default config since there are no services enabled whatsoever.06:10
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Frogzookeleus: wine 0.9.15 ? it's greatly improved06:10
frying_fishrapha: that doesn't stop people finding ways in.06:11
raphaGradius9: when you install servers it is assumed that you also know how to install a firewall.06:11
keleusFrogzoo; well, i haven't TRIED it...06:11
Gradius9rapha, going to open up for samba externally / vnc internally / ssh externally06:11
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sullivanhas anyone had trouble with ppp since the last update?06:11
keleusFrogzoo; but the comments in the application database all said to use software mode06:11
Ayabarafrying_fish: how do I do that?06:11
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frying_fishGradius9: then some knowledge of iptables would be useful.06:11
raphafrying_fish: a firewall couldn't prevent it in these cases. I'd also argue that it's extremely hard to get into a default Ubuntu install.06:11
Gradius9rapha: Just know the ON button i windows06:11
Frogzookeleus: appdb knows best ;)06:11
frying_fishAyabara: sudo chown -R user:user /foo06:11
sullivanthe most recent version doesn't seem to be passing environment variables on so it keeps asking for my ssh info06:11
dawson_hi, i am a complete newbe and am trying to install java, and not getting very far. All the online help requires 'fakeroot', which i have managed to find and install a package for. But i can not get the java package thing to work. Any help, any step by step guides out there?06:11
raphaGradius9: feel safe in Ubuntu unless you've knowingly installed a web server or something.06:12
frying_fishrapha: oh ok.06:12
Ayabarafrying_fish: thanks06:12
frying_fishI need to look at optimising my iptables stuff soon06:12
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evoluxfrying_fish: ok, problem solved. the kernel re-numbered the drives, so hda was now part of the raid and "busy" and the new root drive is hde1. Thanks for your help!06:12
NoUsedawson_ the wiki page on restricted formats is good06:12
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frying_fishevolux: there you go.06:12
NoUse!tell dawson_ about restricted06:12
keleusdawson_; you want the runtime environment or development stuff?06:12
Gradius9rapha: thanks, guess I will figure it out when I am at it.. just preparing for the install...06:12
Bassettswhat ftp client would someone recommend?06:12
raphaGradius9: if you're a sucker for security you might want to build up a dedicated firewall box using OpenBSD (openbsd.org)06:12
keleusBassetts; ftp06:12
sullivan:)06:12
raphaBassetts: CLI or GUI?06:12
rigonattii Have a 250GB SATA ... but for some reason ..i cant see two fat32 partitions06:12
BassettsGUI06:13
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Gradius9rapha: My router has a pretty ok firewall also...06:13
frying_fishrigonatti: do they not show in /etc/fstab06:13
raphaGradius9: in that case :-)06:13
keleusBassetts; oh a GUI.... ok, use ftp in an xterm06:13
keleus:D06:13
Gradius9rapha: and the network is only between my own machines.06:13
Tobberothrigonatti: Have you mounted them?06:13
rigonattihttp://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/30706:13
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raphaBassetts: how about Nautilus?06:13
dawson_both, i wish to develop my own java apps06:13
Bassettscan it do it?06:13
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rigonattiTobberoth  I just use the Gparted to format the partition06:13
raphaBassetts: just do Alt-F2 and in the appearing dialog enter "nautilus ftp://user:password@host.tld"06:13
keleusdawson_; i had some helpful info for the runtime, but since you want the JDK i cant really help06:14
Samus_Aranif anyone wants to fix a typo on the wiki (I don't have a login and have no time to create one): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrintingCupsWebInterface?highlight=%28sudo%2906:14
rigonattiTobberoth :  Need to do anything else ?06:14
Samus_Aranthere are two sudo's06:14
Bassettsthanks rapha06:14
raphaBassetts: you can even create a starter on the desktop which will open the ftp directory06:14
Tobberothrigonatti: Oh.. i personally had a lot of trouble with gparted, so I don't know..06:14
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raphahth Bassetts :)06:14
dawson_ok, can you give me the runtime info06:14
synapekiga-enabled guys around ?06:14
dawson_i am willing to hold off on the other06:14
NoUsedawson_ you on dapper?06:14
dawson_no, horey06:14
rigonattiin true...my last try was format with Partition Magic in Windows..06:14
rigonattiThe partitions Works fine on windows...06:14
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rigonattibut ..in linux i cant access06:15
rigonattigot it ?06:15
austrabihey!, I got a question: where is the networking configuration stored? Like the one that determines how you connect to a network or internet. I want to use DHCP.06:15
NoUsedawson_ I see, our of curiousity, any reason you are running such an old version?06:15
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keleusdawson_; actually, i have all my repositories enabled and the package you need is sun-java5-jdk06:15
NoUsekeleus thats only on dapper06:15
keleuscrap06:16
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jrattnerAnyone know a thing about html iFrames that could help me out for a minute or two?06:16
jrattner?06:16
dawson_not especially, just had the cd lying around facied spreading my linux wings, you recommend an upgrade then?06:16
keleussorry dawson_06:16
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keleusthought i could be helpful, guess not this time :)06:16
austrabican anybody help me?06:16
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keleusaustrabi; yea, hold on a sec06:16
Frogzooaustrabi: /etc/network/interfaces ...06:16
Samus_Arancan someone suggest why OpenOffice.org is not seeing 90% of my fonts which are available to Xorg and other apps ?06:16
DyegovHow do I delete a file logged in as root from the terminal?06:17
NoUsedawson_ I would recommend upgrading, but you don't have to just for java06:17
Samus_AranI think it is missing all the TTFs I have06:17
Tobberothdawson_: Get dapper06:17
rigonattiTobberoth any idea ?? I mean ....even if I use qparted ... i need to mount  ?06:17
keleusaustrabi; /etc/network/06:17
Samus_Aranthe fonts show up in xfontsel and xlsfont and so on06:17
Ron_oDyegov, rm..06:17
Ron_owatchout though..06:17
keleusaustrabi; pay special attention to the /etc/network/interfaces file06:17
Tobberothrigonatti: I think you still need to mount, but I'm not sure.. I think gparted probably mounts the partitions itself..06:17
keleusand i would keep a working backup in case of error06:17
FrogzooDyegov: best not delete files owned by root unless you know what the file's for06:17
dawson_upgrade or clean install? which is quicker/eaiser?06:17
TobberothHehe, not to sure, I never got that far with it myself.06:17
keleusupgrade06:17
TobberothYou could try using fdisk06:17
Ayabarafrying_fish: changed ownership and remounted, but it didn't work06:17
NoUse!tell dawson_ about upgrade06:17
keleusdawson_; if you have breezy theres actually an automated system in place. NoUse just told you how :)06:18
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DyegovFrogzoo, I know what it's, thanx ;)06:18
mleonola06:18
mleonquieneres06:18
rigonattiTobberoth ...so ..how do I check this ..or do manually ?06:18
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frying_fishAyabara: well it should have06:18
NoUsedawson_ if you just install hoary and you haven't done anything with it, I would just get the dapper ISO and do a fresh install06:18
Frogzoorigonatti: I'd really recommend only using qparted to resize from a live cd with all your file systems unmounted - it's less grief this way06:19
frying_fishif you have the correct permissions and stuff06:19
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hernan82arghi all06:19
frying_fishanyway, I am watching world cup now so see you guys later.06:19
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austrabikeleus, thanks a lot I will try that06:19
mleonSPAA06:19
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hernan82arghey people, i need install testopia in my box06:19
Ayabarafrying_fish: should the permissions be '777'?06:19
keleusaustrabi; no problem.06:19
TobberothIf you want to work with partitions without gparted, open terminal and write cfdisk06:19
Tobberothyou probably need a sudo before that06:19
hernan82argbut i don't find any package in the repository06:20
mleonDE DONDE SOIS06:20
hernan82argargentina06:20
rigonattiTobbertot: You mean start a live session and format the prtitions ?06:20
keleuswhat would i do to get new files created under /home directories be completely unreadable for "other" users? (not owner/group)06:20
hernan82argmleon, espaol?06:20
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rigonattiTobberoth: but Gparted isnt on live CD06:20
Tobberothrigonatti: Well.. I don't know, depends on what situation you're in etc.06:20
wsjuniorhow do i forbid a mudule from loading?06:21
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mleonnose habrar vuestro idioma06:21
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Ron_ocfdisk is actually quite easy to use...06:21
earthenstart the usb hotplug system06:21
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TobberothRon_o: I agree.06:21
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rigonattiCan anyone help me with some partitions ?06:21
wsjuniori dont want that bcm4xx module to be loaded. how do i block it?06:21
hernan82argmleon, no hablas espaol?06:21
mleonno me ablais06:21
earthenhow do I restart the USB hotplug system?06:21
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SuseUXcan anyone send me theer default xorg.conf?06:22
NoUserigonatti if you can be more specific with your question you'll probably get a better response06:22
wsjuniorisnt there a blacklist to block that module?06:22
SuseUXor post it?06:22
hernan82argmleon, de donde eres?06:22
mleonespaa06:22
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hernan82argbueno, en argentina tambien hablamos espaol06:22
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Chri[s] how do i a new X window session from command line terminal if one is already running startx :01 ?06:22
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NoUsewsjunior add "blacklist <modname>" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist06:23
XiXaQcould someone with an updated 6.06 check to see if their ntp is active and installed? Mine was suddenly disabled.06:23
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mleonno os cachondeis06:23
rigonattiNoUse: I have a 250GB with Ubuntu and some other partitions. The Gparted show my 2 FAT32 partitons but i can access that..06:23
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Tobberothhernan82arg y mleon: #ubuntu-es06:23
rigonattihttp://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/30706:23
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Ron_ontp: network time protocol?06:23
XiXaQyes06:23
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hernan82argTobberoth, thx06:24
_absolution_how do you set up a printer on Dapper?06:24
mleonos gusta el mundial06:24
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Ron_oyou can check it in BUM to see if it starts up auto..06:24
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Ron_o!printer06:24
ubotufrom memory, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org06:24
NoUserigonatti did you run gparted with sudo?06:24
XiXaQRon_o, was that last message for me?06:24
Chri[s] wow06:24
Ron_oNo..06:24
XiXaQ:)06:24
NoUserigonatti also, you can't change paritions while they are mounted06:25
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Ron_o_absolution_, setting up the printing system is automatic. Look for system > cups or something similar and go from there.06:25
hernan82argbugzilla@bugzilla:~/bla2$ sudo perl tr_install.pl06:25
hernan82argCan't locate Bugzilla.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at tr_install.pl line 26.06:25
mleonllamame 61769913806:25
rigonattiNoUse... I used the Partition MAgic in Windows to format...Windows See the partitions normally ....but Linux dont !06:25
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jbroomemleon: you want us to call you?06:25
NoUserigonatti the picture you posted was too small for me to read06:26
hernan82arghehe06:26
mleonhijo de puta06:26
hernan82argany can help me?06:26
raphaPartitionMagic f***** up more than one harddrive for me. Stopped using it.06:26
raphamleon: language?06:26
earthenanyone know how i can restart the usb hotplug system I thought it was in /etc/init.d./hotplug...   but it not there06:26
hernan82argmleon, close your mouth06:26
mleongilipollas06:26
Frogzooearthen: it was in breezy - I think hotplug's been completely redone though06:27
jbroomehe needs some chowdah!06:27
mleonchupamela06:27
earthenFrogzoo,  O I C! so how do I restart it06:27
rigonattiNoUse: hold on06:28
mleonbesame el culo06:28
Frogzooearthen: when you find out, let me know - soz06:28
hernan82argbye people06:28
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earthenFrogzoo, my palm failed to hotsync and i don't want to reboot every time that it does06:28
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rigonattiNouse ?06:29
NoUserigonatti yes?06:29
rigonattiNouse http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/30706:29
rigonattiops06:29
mleonquien se a ido?06:29
rigonattihttp://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/30806:29
schultzconsultHow do I use keys to switch between desktop 1 2 3 4?06:29
jbroomeschultzconsult: ctrl-alt right/left arrow key06:29
schultzconsulttanks06:29
mleonSE AN IDO 4 ?06:29
rigonattitake a look at the two last lines.... its two fat32 partitons with a "!" symbol06:30
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NoUserigonatti same problem, open up a terminal and run 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda' and pastebin that06:30
sparkleytoneso is breezy support in a different channel now?06:30
schultzconsultsorry not tanks, thanks06:30
schultzconsultwe are not at war ;-)06:30
jbroomeman, i thought i was getting some armor.  bummer06:30
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Ron_osparkleytone, no.06:30
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alex_is amarok crashing on anyone after doing the install libmad0 libxine-extracodecs ?06:30
schultzconsultgive all seems not to work in here - lol06:30
SnurfIf I log into SSH and wget a file that is very big and will take awhile, can I close the SSH window and will the server keep getting the file?06:31
Frogzooalex_: this 4 kde?06:31
alex_Frogzoo: Yes06:31
sparkleytoneSnurf: you need to use screen06:31
SnurfCrap06:31
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SnurfOk thanks06:31
nicholaspaulI'm having trouble mounting an internal HD - when i mount -a , it says the folder i'm trying to mount to is busy. What should i do?06:31
sparkleytoneSnurf: such as "screen wget blahblah"06:31
Snurfyup06:31
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Frogzooalex_: ah, can't say - works fine on gnome though - consider amarok 1.4 though06:31
sparkleytoneSnurf: then you detach the screen using ctrl-d06:31
sparkleytonemeh....gone06:31
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alex_Frogzoo: is that a downgrade?06:32
RageMaxI'm having problems getting the 5.10 installation detecting my SATA drive06:32
schultzconsultis the only way to get a cool desktop switche, with xgl or is ther theming for that one also? like bigger thumbs of the desktops?06:32
RageMaxis that fixed in dapper?06:32
sparkleytoneRageMax: it doesnt detect it at all?06:32
RageMaxnope06:32
rigonattiNouse: give me a ">" prompt...should I wait ?06:32
IlokaasuRageMax: hdd or cdrom ?06:32
Frogzooalex_: nope - it's latest - 1.3.9 is in the stock repos06:32
Ron_onicholaspaul, make sure you aren't accessing the folder?06:32
nicholaspaulhow, Ron_o ?06:32
NoUserigonatti after you ran the command?06:32
leo_how can I specify my XkbLayout when customizing a liveCD , i tried kbd-chooser/method but it didn't work?06:32
rigonattiyep06:32
NoUserigonatti did it output anything?06:33
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Ron_omake sure nothing in your terminal is accessing it.06:33
alex_Frogzoo: Do you just happen to know if amarok will ONLY work with the xine engine?06:33
rigonattiubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~s fdisk -l /dev/hda'06:33
Ron_oor even restart your terminal...06:33
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IlokaasuRageMax: is it cdrom sata drive ?06:33
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NoUserigonatti you put in a quotation mark, take tha tout06:33
Ron_o!mount06:33
ubotuit has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f06:33
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jimmy_89i am having some trouble configuring my wep settings atm06:33
NoUserigonatti Ctrl+C and then take out the quote06:33
RageMaxit's the SATA HD, the CD drive is detected06:33
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jimmy_891) How do i enter a passphrase wep key , 2) how do you enter a wep key as key#2 ?06:33
nicholaspaulRon_o:  oh i see. No, nothing else is accessing it. Is it an ownership issue?06:34
Ron_odis you sudo?06:34
RageMaxknoppix was able to detect it in failsafe mode06:34
amortvigilwhat do i do wrong: root@amortvigil:~# metacity06:34
amortvigilWindow manager error: Unable to open X display  ??06:34
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Ilokaasuk, i had problems with my cdrom so i had to change some options in bios so it started working06:34
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Ron_omounting is quite difficult, I must profess.06:34
Ron_oI have much trouble as well.06:34
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RageMaxI should probably mention this is a macbook ;)06:34
RageMaxno bios06:34
nicholaspaulRon_o:  oh ok.06:34
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Ron_olet me get you some bookmarks. Wait.06:34
nicholaspaulok06:35
Ilokaasuwell then try google or maby some else can help06:35
VitaminGhow is mounting difficult?06:35
sparkleytonewhoa...you don't have to run package setup on first boot anymore in dapper?06:35
nicholaspaulVitaminG: can you help? I cant seem to mount an int. HD06:35
RageMaxI'm downloading the dapper install disk to see if that works06:35
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amortvigilFrogzoo: what do i do wrong? : root@amortvigil:~# metacity06:35
amortvigilWindow manager error: Unable to open X display06:35
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VitaminGwhat error does it give you?06:35
nicholaspaulVitaminG: when I mount -a, says the folder is busy.06:35
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Ron_osorry, I only have something for he cd-rom: http://dsl.ee.unsw.edu.au/dsl-cdrom/unsw/common/cdrom-mounting.html06:35
nicholaspaulnp thx Ron_o06:36
Ron_obut that's what I have so many problms with.06:36
rigonattiNoUse: I put the /dev/hda(iuts a empty disc to backup files)  and /dev/sda ( its the SATA drive that i use)06:36
keleussparkleytone; even better, but the repositories are hardcoded in (in synaptic, you can simply add universe/multiverse in the repositories dialog)06:36
rigonattiNoUse http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/30906:36
sparkleytonewhat do you mean hardcoded?06:36
sparkleytonei am changing sources.list as we speak...is that not going to change anything?06:36
Ron_osomething is accessing your folder/parition. What, I can't say.06:36
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Yoosahamortvigil: root can't use X, you can use xauth to make that possible06:36
VitaminGnicholaspaul: can't say i've ever seen that. Do you have the drive is listed in fstab?06:36
keleusrigonatti; /dev/sda is scsii generic06:37
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nicholaspaulVitaminG: yes06:37
Ron_ofor me I couldn't unmount my cdrom because in my terminal I was in the directory.06:37
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keleusrigonatti; like USB flash drives. something tells me your SATA drive should show up as /dev/hda or something06:37
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amortvigilYoosah: what is the terminal code?06:37
rigonattiNoUse: hda parameter just show my empty disc.. .06:37
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nicholaspaulVitaminG: isnt this just a case of editing fstab?06:38
rigonattiNoUse In true my SATA driver is the sda1 ..the partitions that i dont see in linux is sda5..sda606:38
Yoosahamortvigil: i think it is: xauth merge /home/$NORMAL_USER/.Xauthority06:38
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Yoosahamortvigil: that is not permanent, read up on xauth to give root permanent rights06:38
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jrattner2where did Fu go?06:39
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cristoshello06:39
NoUserigonatti sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda06:39
VitaminGnicholaspaul: I'm not sure what's up.. It shouldn't be giving this error if the drive isn't mounted.06:39
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NoUserigonatti pastebin the output06:39
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affluxnabend06:39
cristosDid anybody of you ever program using NCurses ?06:39
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rigonattiNoUse ...is there ...http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/30906:40
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rigonattiNoUse: Line 6 http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/30906:40
amortvigilYoosah: ok termial looks like auth:06:40
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NoUserigonatti right, so you need to mount these or what?06:40
amortvigilYoosah: whats the command?06:40
DyegovHi, When I start my firefox, and I try to download a plugin, it opens the window, but nothing happens, it doen't even has bottons!06:40
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rigonattiI see all partitions in Windows. ..but in Linux I cant see the sda5 and sda6 .. I think its not mounted o06:41
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chapiumDoes anyone know if I can find binary drivers for this video card: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS ?  I'm not familiar with ati, just nvidia06:41
eyequeuerigonatti, you obtain plugins via synaptic packages06:41
Ron_oDyegov, I had the same problem with firefox, if it makes you feel any better. I never solved the issue though.06:41
nicholaspaulVitaminG:  weird. This is a fresh install of Dapper, too.06:42
NoUserigonatti yeah you need to mount them06:42
Samus_Aranchapium: what shows up in synaptic ?06:42
keleuschapium; your in for an upleasant suprise - ATIs drivers are open, but they suck :)06:42
eyequeuerigonatti, system > administration > synaptic06:42
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DyegovSo, Ron_o , how do you see websites with flash, and things like that?06:42
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NoUse!tell rigonatti about fat3206:42
Ron_oI finally fixed it by d/l flash and compiled it.06:42
Ron_ofrom the website itself.06:43
eyequeueNoUse, where is the bot?06:43
chapiumkeleus: If I gain any speed at all in gnome i'll be a happy camper06:43
eyequeue!help06:43
NoUse!tell eyequeue about ubotu06:43
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eyequeueNoUse, there is no bot here06:43
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keleuschapium; compared to default VGA/VESA you'll be on FIRE06:43
NoUseeyequeue yeah there is06:43
krazykiteyequeue: ubotu is the bot.06:43
Ron_othere might be a repository with Flash in it. Check it out.06:43
anturais it possible to disable the expanding window border animation when launching apps from the panel?06:43
Ron_othat way it will upgrade automatically.06:43
eyequeuekrazykit, and where is ubotu?06:43
chapiumantura: yes06:43
jnevesany suggestions on where I should start to update the kernel in install CDs?06:43
NoUse!botsnack06:44
ubotuthanks nouse :)06:44
eyequeue!help06:44
NoUse!ubotu06:44
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.06:44
eyequeuei see no ubotu here06:44
Dyegovbut i need more plugins Ron_o , I wanted to see a youtube.com video, but it asks me for a plugin06:44
chapiumantura: you need to use gnome-conf i think to change it06:44
Ron_oyah, I'm with you.06:44
Ron_owait..06:44
chapiumi think06:44
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eyequeuehrm06:44
anturachapium: thanks, seems like i just need to google some more06:44
chapiumits whatever gnome's version of regedit is06:44
Yoosahamortvigil: i'm sure it is: xauth merge /home/$NORMAL_USER/.Xauthority06:44
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winbondis there some kind of cleanup command that will remove all broken packages or something like that ?06:45
gharzguys, what's the command to check the version of my gnome?06:45
VitaminGnicholaspaul: from the man pages(man 8 mount) it sounds like the "the folder is busy" means that it's mounted, which shouldn't be. It wouldn't hurt to manually unmount to be sure. If it won't unmount, we've got a really strange problem.06:46
jnevesgharz: check the about window06:46
gharzok06:46
gharzthanks06:46
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rabidphagegreetings06:47
gharzjneves, how about if i want to check the version of some application?06:47
nicholaspaulVitaminG:  i think i have it - i had used hdd instead of hdd1 in fstab.06:47
jnevesgharz: it's in System -> About gnome06:47
jnevesgharz: dpkg -l | grep <app-name>06:47
jnevesgharz: the second column is the version06:47
gharzjneves, ok. thanks!!!!06:47
VitaminGnicholaspaul: that could do it.06:47
rabidphagei just patched my kernel for the first time to support lower cpu voltages using the phc patch. my question is once i commit myself how long would it take to configure the kernel??06:48
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rabidphagei mean i patched the source but havent compiled yet06:48
cparkerHi, I recently upgraded from version 5.10 to 6.06 LTS. I'm now noticing that sound isn't working, whereas it was working in 5.10... I've tried changing the "Default sound card" option in System -> Preferences -> Sound, but when I click "Close", then open up the window again, the "Default sound card" is set back to my USB camera that has a microphone in it.06:48
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VitaminGnicholaspaul: any luck?06:49
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Ron_oDyegov[Away] ,06:50
linuxboyfriendhi all06:50
Ron_osorry about that Dyegov[Away]  I was having problems..06:50
Ron_osee you on the next round.06:50
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linuxboyfriendi am planning to make an online university. can anyone tell me that what should i learn to make the website of that univerisyt?06:51
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wwwHello06:51
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cparkerlinuxboyfriend: I think you're in the wrong channel for that. You probably want a Web design/development channel.06:52
wwwCan someone please suggest an all purpouse media player [MP3s, WMAs, video files, dvds and maybe TV Tuner cards] ? Thanks.06:52
pantharIf you are making a whole online university, I would learn to hire someone to do that for you :)06:52
jneveslinuxboyfriend: moodle06:52
wwwhappyle06:52
squiddlewww  mplayer06:53
Samus_Arandot hq06:53
Samus_Aranwww: MPlayer can do everything but DVD menus, for that I use Xine06:54
cparkerOkay, so would anyone be able to tell me why my Default sound card selection isn't being remembered?06:54
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Aragorn_Guardianhi all06:54
Specwww: vlc06:54
alex_this is soo lame; Only reason I isntalled ubuntu was for amarok and it's the only thing that crashes on me; lol!06:54
Specwww: VideolanClient is the winner06:54
nicholaspaulVitaminG: yup ,it seems to be ok now. Weird! Thx for trying to help06:54
Aragorn_Guardiani wanna utf-8 in isos made by mkisofs.06:54
wwwI'll try Mplayer and VLC, and choose which does what I need best.06:54
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Spec!glade06:55
ubotuSpec: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:55
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Aragorn_Guardianwww: mplayer 8)06:55
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Aragorn_Guardianthe both are useful06:55
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_Mr_Denix_hello guys !:)06:55
rabidphageAnybody here who has done some kernel compiling???06:55
Samus_Aranwww: for MPlayer use "mplayer" for the comand line (or as a file association in a file manager) or "gmplayer" if you want a GUI front-end06:55
brrrthi all06:56
_Mr_Denix_!seen neutrinomass06:56
ubotuneutrinomass is currently on #ubuntu (2h 10m 24s)06:56
Samus_Aranrabidphage: sure06:56
wwwThanks, I'll go for Mplayer.06:56
_Mr_Denix_!seen thoreauputic06:56
ubotuthoreauputic <n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic> was last seen on IRC in channel #kubuntu, 18h 44m 45s ago, saying: ':)'.06:56
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brrrthow can i make a program autostart and "respawn" automatically06:56
rabidphageSamus_Aran: how long does it take to configure the kernel06:56
neutrinomass_Mr_Denix_: I'm here :)06:56
_Mr_Denix_hello neutrinomass :)06:56
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neutrinomass_Mr_Denix_: Everything OK today I presume :) ?06:57
Ayabaraany tips on a good torrent client besides the ubuntu default and azureus?06:57
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ToHellWithGAAyabara: ktorrent06:57
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ToHellWithGAbuild it from source.06:57
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ToHellWithGAktorrent 2 beta is a good client06:58
pantharubuntu default = bittorrent?06:58
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neutrinomassToHellWithGA: Why should he build from source? It's in the repos.06:58
_Mr_Denix_neutrinomass: :)) you seem rather scared ! lol everything's ok and I'm trying to learn new stuff ! (at the moment looking for a chat client yahoo compatbile with webcam support)06:58
pantharor some tnomey thing?06:58
rabidphageSamus_Aran: Any ideas??06:58
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pantharerr, gnomey06:58
neutrinomass_Mr_Denix_: Not scared, concerned ;)06:58
AyabaraToHellWithGA: anytime I hear build from source I can't help but shiver ;-)06:58
ToHellWithGAneutrinomass: because 2 beta isn't in the repositories and it's a new program06:58
dr-dhelp! i've changed my root partition and now when i try to reboot i get a grub error 17... i think i have to register the offset of the kernel or something ..... can anyone tell me how to do it?06:58
ToHellWithGAAyabara: install it from the repositories, remove it, and build it06:58
Samus_Aranrabidphage: depends on how many options you decide to modify06:58
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ToHellWithGAthen you'll have all of the dependencies left behind for sure06:58
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Samus_Aranrabidphage: anywhere from a few minutes to several hours06:58
_Mr_Denix_neutrinomass thank you for your concern ! really appreciate it06:58
_Mr_Denix_:)06:59
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neutrinomassToHellWithGA: Well, unless it's neccessary he shouldn't be compiling from source... thigs might break during upgrades etc.06:59
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ToHellWithGAAyabara: if you /msg me then i could feed you commands06:59
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ToHellWithGAneutrinomass: that's what "checkinstall" is for06:59
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neutrinomassToHellWithGA: Not to mention that it's Beta software for a reason ;)06:59
ToHellWithGAit's an ugly way to make something easy to remove06:59
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omarhola06:59
neutrinomassToHellWithGA: Hm.. yes, that is an option as well ...06:59
ToHellWithGAholla omar06:59
rabidphageSamus_Aran: So is the defaults selected already?? i havent started configuring .. just done the source patching06:59
ifxxi have installed the new ubuntu6: when i would like to use a geforce 6800 gt must i install any other drivers?06:59
Samus_Aranrabidphage: it is fun to go through the entire kernel config at least once, reading the descriptions as you go, so you can be aware of what the Linux kernel is actually capable of these days ... course that's the method that will take you half a day =p06:59
Samus_Aranrabidphage: if all you want to do is change one or two options, use the distros kernel as your base07:00
Samus_Aranrabidphage: grab the kernel config out of /boot to start with in that case07:00
Samus_Aranrabidphage: copy it to your /usr/src/linux/.config07:00
omarhola tohellwithga07:00
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rabidphageSamus_Aran: yup i'm using the distro base kernel. coz i'm a noob and i don't know much about acpi and stuff. the vanilla seems to be in the dark regarding such finer points ;)07:01
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ToHellWithGAlol @ omar, dropping in to say hi to a stranger then leaving07:01
squiddlerabidphage  it is not in the dark, you are and it is shining just too bright, but hope is there cause your eyes will adapt :)07:01
Samus_Aranifxx: if you don't need any hardware accelleration, then use the "nv" driver that Ubuntu/Xorg defaults to.  if you want hardware accelleration (OpenGL games and apps) then install the nVIDIA binary drivers, available through synaptic (though you may need to add the universe or multiverse repositories, not sure)07:01
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rabidphagesquiddle: hi there.. true...:(07:02
_absolution_how do you change/install themes?07:02
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nicholaspaulI just copied over my old Home folder and now Firefox and Synaptic wont run. Did i mess up ??!07:02
_absolution_and the Login manager?07:02
dionysoscould be07:02
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NoUse!tell _absolution_ about themes07:03
brrrthow can i make a program to restart automatically like metacity?07:03
nicholaspaul_absolution_: System / Preferences / theme07:03
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rabidphagesquiddle: however i've read somewhere the battery status don't work with the vanilla kernel07:03
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nicholaspaulso how did i mess up?!07:04
squiddlerabidphage  yeah sometimes you need some patches :)07:04
Samus_Aranbrrrt: I do something similar with ICE Window Manager, I just have a wrapper script called lock-icewm and it keeps reloading my icewm after it closes or crashes (until I remove the lockfile in /tmp).  it's just a Bash script that keeps running it in a loop07:04
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squiddlenicholaspaul  if it worked before and now it stopped, than most likely somehting got wrong. start with using your working home and copy your backup one folder after another07:04
nicholaspaulsquiddle: ok, that makes sense. tanks.07:05
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Samus_Aranbrrrt: such as this: while [ -e "$Lockfile" ] ; do icewm; sleep 1s; done07:05
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lupzhello, how i can fully utilize cpu's during compilation when i've multiple processors installed ?07:05
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squiddlelupz  make -J <yount of processors +1>07:06
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ToHellWithGAis there an equivalent to DOS .bat files in linux?07:06
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rabidphageSamus_Aran: so does that mean in order to get the defaults, it is mandatory to copy the old .config from /boot to /usr/src/linux/.config???07:07
lupzsquiddle, thanks :)07:07
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Arabianhm, what is the differency between ubuntu and ubuntu server, I going to use a computer as small headless fileserver and some other simple stuff, but I am a newbie, should I go for server edition?07:07
ArabianI am07:07
xcoyotequestion: how can i restart my eth0 interface /etc/init.d/??07:07
dionysosArabian: the server doesn't have x window manger (only command line)07:08
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Arbiterifup\ifdown07:08
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Meshezabeelanyone know how I can recover files from a corrupt NTFS partition that both linux and windows refuse to mount. I can recover them with windows recovery programs, but would like to learn how to do it in linux. Also, I want to recover the files without bothering about restoring the partition itself. Thanks.07:08
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Arabiandionysos: thanks, than that passes... going for the desktop07:08
MeshezabeelToHellWithGA, not sure, but you mean a .sh file?07:08
Arabianthen07:08
dionysoslol :p07:08
nicholaspaulsquiddle: prob is, i dont have my 'old' Home (!) and Firefox wont run either...07:08
nicholaspaulGuess I'm reinstalling!!07:08
Samus_Aranrabidphage: unless Ubuntu placed it there for you already, yes07:09
ToHellWithGAMeshezabeel: is that what it would be?07:09
squiddlenicholaspaul  just start with an empty home07:09
ToHellWithGAi've never used a .sh file07:09
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ToHellWithGA(except in building i guess)07:09
Samus_Aranrabidphage: I am new to Ubuntu, so I am not sure of the specific method of custom compile here07:09
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nicholaspaulsquiddle: ok.07:10
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Arabiannice downloading speed 800k down07:10
affluxToHellWithGA, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_script07:10
Samus_Aranrabidphage: the best method would be to build a kernel package, though.  that way synaptic (or whatever package manager you use) would show your custom kernel as installed07:10
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winbondis there some kind of cleanup command that will remove all broken packages or something like that ?07:10
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rabidphageSamus_Aran: Thanks a lot mate..07:10
ToHellWithGAthanks afflux and Meshezabeel07:10
fcaliseDoes anyone have Eterm working with artwiz fonts?  I'm using the -F parameter and it doesn't seem to be taking effect.07:10
nicholaspaulsquiddle: should i logout/in before trying anything, like running firefox (which doesnt work still!)?07:10
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Samus_AranToHellWithGA: an .sh file is a set of Bash or Unix SH commands.  it just runs them from top to bottom, as if you had typed them into the terminal.07:11
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Samus_Aranrabidphage: there will surely be a page on the Wiki explaining the proper way to configure and compile a custom kernel07:11
Samus_Aranrabidphage: I strongly recommend doing a search there07:11
ToHellWithGASamus_Aran: thanks as well.  do you know if it will pause for input (like if i were to include a sudo command and not be within the password keeping time window)07:12
rabidphagesquiddle: could you help me with the kernel compilation?? the question is do i have to copy /boot/.config to /usr/src/linux to get the defaults or will there be any indication during the boot process?07:12
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rabidphagesquiddle: scratch boot process to configuration process07:12
Samus_AranToHellWithGA: do you mean writing your own .sh and calling sudo from it ?07:12
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ToHellWithGASamus_Aran: mhmm07:13
squiddlerabidphage  yes, take the .config from /boot/07:13
ToHellWithGAexactly that07:13
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Samus_AranToHellWithGA: when you run the .sh file, it will be just like you are typing in the commands one after another in Bash.  it will wait for one command to finish before running the next one07:13
rabidphageSamus_Aran: i've been looking around. no luck so far..07:13
ToHellWithGAthat's great Samus_Aran.  thanks07:13
Gradius9hm, another thing...should I take xubuntu if I just want to use the computer as a server, I am not going to use it for anything else anyways07:13
apokryphosGradius9: the ubuntu server install is preferable07:14
NoUseGradius9 you can get the server install CD07:14
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Samus_AranToHellWithGA: also note that in UNIX file extensions mean very little.  you don't need to name your scripts .sh, it can be any name.  just set the file "executable", which tells the system it is meant to be run: chmod a+x filename (or right-click on it and go to properties)07:14
Gradius9apokryphos: I am a newbie with linux so I need that windows interface07:14
apokryphosGradius9: ok, sure; xubuntu will do the job07:14
fcaliseDoes anyone have Eterm working with artwiz fonts?  I'm using the -F parameter and it doesn't seem to be taking effect.07:15
frogmanI'm mounting an smb share via Places -> Connect to Server and every time I save a file the permissions get reset to 764.  what gives?07:15
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Samus_Aranrabidphage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageDetailedHowto07:15
Gradius9apokryphos: so you recommend it over the other linux because it uses fewer resources?07:15
Samus_Aranrabidphage: there you go: "How-to create a custom Ubuntu Linux kernel package"07:15
_Mr_Denix_neutrinomass : you're ready for another round ? :))07:15
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andrei can't get apache2 to ru, and there is no error message!07:16
MeshezabeelToHellWithGA, follow the Unix Shell Scripting Tutorial at the bottom of the wikipedia link, it will give you what you need07:16
apokryphosGradius9: yes07:16
MeshezabeelToHellWithGA, user input examples, etc07:16
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Samus_AranToHellWithGA: after you set your script as executable, you should stick it in one of the directories in your $PATH if you want to be able to run it from anywhere07:16
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Ayabararunning ./configure when installing ktorrent I get the following : checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!07:17
Gradius9apokryphos: the only difference is the lighter window manager and fewer desktop apps, the rest is the same?07:17
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Ayabaraany ideas?07:17
ToHellWithGAit's actually just gonna be a simple script to auto-download and install something07:17
Samus_AranToHellWithGA: or else you need to specify what directory it is in, each time you run the command, for example: /home/joe/scripts/myscript.sh07:17
apokryphosGradius9: correct, the base is the same07:17
danpis there documentation somewhere on what kinds of special installs the "alternate install CD" can do?07:17
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Gradius9apokryphos: ok many questions here :), but it has the same samba / vnc / ssh / drivers etc.?07:17
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Samus_AranToHellWithGA: simple scripts are the way it all starts  =)  pretty soon you'll realise it is very easy to do useful and time-saving things without much in a script07:17
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apokryphosGradius9: I'd certainly presume so. If not, it's always very easy to get.07:18
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mad_phoenixso i un-checked "wireless" in the networkmanager applet menu, and now it isn't in my menu any more to re-enable...how can I get it back?07:18
andreI can use sudo apachectl start but the init script doesn't work07:18
Samus_AranToHellWithGA: and if you keep doing little scripts here and there, after a few years you'll realise you can do almost anything with a console script, and you'll be annoyed every time you use a Windows system and don't have your Bash handy =p07:18
_Mr_Denix_does synaptic open tar.bz2   ?07:18
ToHellWithGASamus_Aran and Meshezabeel, thanks again.07:18
Samus_AranToHellWithGA: welcome07:18
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Juhazis networkmanager broken in dapper?07:19
fcalise_Mr_Denix_ do 'man tar' in a terminal07:19
ToHellWithGAon another note, how can i get the terminal to automagically add "sudo" to commands which need sudo?07:19
fcaliseDoes anyone have Eterm working with artwiz fonts?  I'm using the -F parameter and it doesn't seem to be taking effect.07:19
_Mr_Denix_fcalise thanks07:19
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pantharToHellWithGA, use "alias"07:19
ToHellWithGAalias would make it so i could type "apt-get blah blah" and the shell would think it received "sudo apt-get"?07:19
fcalise_Mr_Denix_, I think you can do tar -jxvf file.tar.bz207:19
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pantharToHellWithGA, Yes07:19
rabidphageSamus_Aran: update xconfig running and man its amazing...... wow.........07:20
ToHellWithGAcool.  thanks panthar07:20
pantharyw07:20
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Samus_AranToHellWithGA: for example: alias synaptic='sudo synaptic'07:20
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Hypoglybetichello room!07:20
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ToHellWithGAare aliases for a session or stored indefinitely?07:20
Samus_AranToHellWithGA: you will need to stick that into your ~/.bash_login or ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc for it to be remembered07:20
ToHellWithGAhello Hypoglybetic?07:20
ToHellWithGAwow.  you type fast responses07:20
_Mr_Denix_fcalise working on it07:20
Tobberotham I the only one who can't get form 2 of ln to work?07:21
Hypoglybeticuhm. . whats w/ the ?07:21
Tobberothit should be "ln [target] "07:21
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fcaliseln source target ?07:21
Tobberothhmm..07:21
_Mr_Denix_fcalise mind if we prv ?07:21
Tobberothdoesn't say it need source, i thought target was the source07:21
Tobberothso to speak07:21
Samus_AranI just thought of a neat idea, you could put this in your ~/.bash_logout to save aliases: alias > ~/aliases07:21
fcalise_Mr_Denix_, sure go ahead07:21
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Samus_Aranand then in your ~/.bashrc have: source ~/aliases07:22
joemauchis setting up gaim-2-beta easy on dapper? can someone point me to some help doing it?07:22
antura///07:22
Samus_Aranto load them07:22
HypoglybeticQ: Is BootCamp the proper program to use to boot ubuntu, OS X, and XP/Vista on a PC? Or should I use BootMagic ?07:22
Sp4rKydoes anyone could help me with a Vimicro webcam ?07:22
fcalisejoemauch, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13317907:22
xcoyotequestion: how to add a service at boot time ?07:22
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FrogzooSamus_Aran: ~/.bash_aliases07:22
Samus_AranTobberoth: ln uses the same syntax as cp or mv: ln <one or more files to link-copy> <where the link will be put>07:23
pantharanswer: sysv init system07:23
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panthar*hic*07:23
gilhi07:23
Tobberothhmm.. guess I missunderstood the manual for ln then07:23
Samus_AranFrogzoo: is that just a prefered filename, or is that automatically read by Bash ?07:23
zenithsglinthey guys what is the best program for keeping track of holidays birthdays daily tasks meetings etc? for gnome?07:23
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pantharzenithsglint, Evolution07:23
Samus_AranTobberoth: ln can automatically link to the present directory if you only put a <source file>07:23
joemauchfcalise, thanks07:23
Tobberothform 2 seemed like "ln file12" would put a link to file12 in the directory of file1207:23
Samus_AranTobberoth: but I find that method more confusing07:23
gilwhen i can connect to my computer at home from the office using XP do i have to use VNC viewer....07:23
fcalisejoemauch, you're welcoe07:23
FrogzooSamus_Aran: it's preferred - see ~/.bashrc07:24
zenithsglintdoes Evolution work best?... no third party better?07:24
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gilcan i not use the Remote Desktop in XP to connect to my kubuntu at home07:24
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fcalisezenithsglint, you could use thunderbird probably07:24
mad_phoenixso does anybody know how to re-enable wireless in networkmanager?07:24
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Frogzoozenithsglint: evolution is best - it's not immediately apparent how well integrated evolution is with the rest of gnome, but it is07:24
Samus_AranFrogzoo: I have a custom .bashrc, I presume Ubuntu sources ~/.bash_aliases automatically with a stock home dir ?07:24
_Mr_Denix_fcalise have you gotten my prv  ?07:24
ech0where are linux header files located? anyone know?07:24
FrogzooSamus_Aran: got it07:25
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Samus_Arangil: I think it only works the other way, X -> Win07:25
ech0they are included in build-essentials correct07:25
mad_phoenixech0: in /usr/src, but you have to install them07:25
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ech0mad_phoenix: what package?07:25
zenithsglintOk, I will check it out, thank you guys.07:25
Samus_Arangil: there are other remote desktop apps, though, such as TightVNC07:25
gnosis-wiQuestion: when I use the GUI to "connect to server" (a samba share on another linux box), the share is mounted and appears as an icon on my desktop.  Where is this mounted *really*?07:25
mad_phoenixlemme check07:25
Samus_Arangil: or x2vnc I think if you want to use your currently running desktop07:25
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blendai recently upgraded from breezy to dapper and therefore gossip 0.9 -> 0.10.2. now gossip won't find my preferences though they are stored in ~/.gnome2/Gossip/. why is that?07:25
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mad_phoenixkernel-headers-<kernel version>07:26
ech0mad_phoenix: thank you07:26
panthargil, look into FreeNX also - it's very fast.  I notice almost no lag connecting to my machine at home over a 512k uplink07:26
mad_phoenixnp07:26
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gili am at an office now that does not want me to install any software...07:26
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gili want to use the local Remote Desktop....07:27
gilMS remote desktop07:27
Samus_Aranpanthar: I tried to get NX server running on my last distro, and it was a royal pain.  does Ubuntu come with premade packages for it ?07:27
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gilwill that not connect at all to a linux machine07:27
gil?07:27
pantharNot in itself, but someone made a nice package for it - 1 sec...07:27
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Samus_Arangil: last time I checked, it will not.  you can check the software page of the app to find out, though07:28
cparkerHow do I manually configure the soundcard? I'm currently affected by bug #44101, so I can't use gnome-sound-properties.07:28
_azraelIs there any way to have apt-get forgo installing a single dependency? I'm attempting to install e17, and the libc6 version I need _thinks_ it needs tzdata, but locales should satisfy this. I would just let tzdata install, but apt doesn't like that for fear it will break locales. Advice?07:28
panthargil, I don't know of a remote desktop server for Linux (Windows Remote Desktop protocol)07:28
gilok!07:28
cparkergil: Why not use VNC? ;)07:28
_azraelHowever, there are VNC viewers that work in web-based Java.07:29
pantharSamus_Aran, Take a look at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/07:29
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giloh i have used VNC many times07:29
dionysosjust install vncserver07:29
ech0mad_phoenix: it looks like my kernal version is  2.6.15-23-386  yet it does not have headers in the repository, should i use the 2.4 headers, does it matter?07:29
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pantharSamus_Aran, That page has a nice repository that has FreeNX07:29
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gili got my boss here over my sholder all the f###ing time...he always  looks to see if we install programs07:29
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pantharI installed from there and tried a windoze client, and it just worked07:29
mad_phoenixech0: no, do not use 2.4 headers07:30
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ech0mad_phoenix: hmm, what should i do07:30
panthargil, you can use the vnc client without installing it07:30
_azraelgil: That's why you can use a Java client on a page--you can set up most vnc servers to serve a java app site you can log into.07:30
gili want to be able to use the Remote Desktop in XP07:30
pantharstick it on a usb drive or cd or anywhere..07:30
lewizHi, should I use the Live CD or the alternate install CD if I just want to do a regular desktop install?07:30
giloh yeah>>>?07:30
gilhow do i do that...07:30
mad_phoenixin my repos i have a package named linux-headers-2.6.15-23-38607:30
pantharthat's true also - the java client.07:30
_azraelDepends what server you're using.07:30
mad_phoenixi think thats what you need07:30
gilhow do i use the vnc client without installint it? some help please?07:31
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ech0mad_phoenix: ok, thanks again :)07:31
dionysosgil its posible07:31
mad_phoenixnp07:31
panthargil, it's just a single .exe07:31
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panthargil, look here: http://www.tightvnc.com/download.html07:31
nostalg1cis there a tool to measure my hd temperature under ubuntu?07:31
Samus_Arangil: just add 1000 to the port number and you can load it in your web page07:31
mad_phoenixgil: the easiest way to get a vnc client is to apt-get tsclient07:31
Samus_Arangil: at least I think it is 1000.07:31
Frogzoonostalg1c: install smartutils07:32
nostalg1c:5800 for the java client, :5900 for the vnc client07:32
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nostalg1cFrogzoo, tnx07:32
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_azraelDoes anyone know how to make apt ignore a single dependency on a package?07:32
Bassettsanyone know much about vmware server?07:32
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Samus_Arangil: then just use any Java capable web browser.  the VNC server also runs a mini web server.  it's not quite as fast as a native TightVNC client, but it will suffice07:32
nenaoal07:32
gili dont need a vnc client....07:32
nenaola07:32
xkahnI just upgraded to drake and now printing is broken.07:32
LinuxJoneslewiz, the LiveCD installer seems to be causing some folks troubles07:32
gilahhh..ok07:32
nenaeeeeeeeeeeeeooo0o07:32
xkahnThe add printer dialog doesn't list any USB ports.07:32
xkahnAny help?07:32
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Samus_Arangil: you wanted to access your GNU/Linux desktop from Windows without installing software ... we gave you a solution07:33
frogmangnome-vfs-daemon is changing file permissions to 764 on write.  anyone know how to stop that?07:33
nenake suscontais07:33
pantharLinuxJones, I had a horrible time using the LiveCD  to install on a box with 256M07:33
gilyes yes i understand....07:33
lewizLinuxJones: Great, thanks.  I'll use the alternate one then... is that like the old install CDs?07:33
xkahn(Also, /dev/usb was missing, but adding it and adding a device node for lp0 in that directory did nothing.)07:33
Frogzooxkahn: is this a USB printer? lexmark maybe?07:33
LinuxJonespanthar, yeah you need 512 at least :)07:33
xkahnFrogzoo, Yes and yes.07:33
LinuxJoneslewiz, yes07:33
nostalg1cFrogzoo, you meant smartmontools?07:33
Samus_Arangil: and I do recommend TightVNC over the others, if you want speed.  if you want to access your currently active desktop, then you will need to use x2vnc07:33
pantharLinuxJones, Nah - I just zapped GDM, ran X with an Xterm, and fired off ubiquity ;)07:33
xkahnFrogzoo, It's an OptraE312....  Shoudl work.07:33
ToHellWithGAcould somebody read over this script for me and suggest improvements? http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/6486507:33
pantharDoesn't the livecd recommend 192M though/07:34
lewizLinuxJones: Thanks a lot.  Off to install then :)07:34
_azraelgil: You have to understand, RDP (the windows remote desktop protocol) is based on the windows event system. Implementing it on linux would basically just be a pain.07:34
panthar?07:34
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the_big_bosshola07:34
gilyes , so i figured....07:34
gilthanks07:34
ToHellWithGAholla the_big_boss07:34
Frogzooxkahn: see bug 6627 - it's related to Z52/53 but may apply to other lexmarks - but in gutenprint07:34
Frogzoo*bug*07:34
the_big_bosshola tohell...07:34
gilwill look into tight vnc07:34
Samus_AranRemote Administrator is faster than RDP in my experience, but I haven't used RDP all that much07:34
gilthank you07:34
Samus_Aranbut again, that is just Windows07:34
the_big_bossq tal?07:34
pantharSamus_Aran, Did you catch that link?07:35
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Samus_Aranit runs perfectly in WINE, though.  I've used it for years when helping others on their remote Win32 boxes07:35
Samus_Aranpanthar: yes, thank you07:35
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gilSamus_Aran: thank yoiu07:35
gnosis-wiI have a question about a mounted share on dapper drake.  can I ask that here?07:35
pantharCool - i have that set up at home and it feels like I am logging in over a LAN07:35
Samus_Aranpanthar: what do you do after installing the package ?07:35
noeliahola quien hay yo me llamo noelia07:35
pantharNothing - I just connected from a doze box at work.07:35
gilpanthar:thanks as well07:35
pantharthe NX client starts the login/auth via SSH07:36
ToHellWithGAnoelia: #ubuntu-es might be better for you07:36
erichFYI: my "upgrade" from a sarge box to dapper went just fine so far. but yeah, you need to know a lot about common debian/ubuntu issues for such an upgrade.07:36
Samus_Aranpanthar: I read all about NX server months ago, and it really sounded nice.  I wanted to compare it to Remote Administrator (which is always my base-point for speed comparisons, heh)07:36
Ayabarawhat app should I use to burn cd/dvd?07:36
pike_gnosis-wi: yes07:36
pantharHm, never tried "Remote Administrator"07:36
_azraelAyabara: Do you need a gui?07:36
Ayabara_azrael: I would like one :-)07:36
Samus_Aranpanthar: Radmin has the ability to do 16 colours mode, which is great if one of the computers is on dial-up.  it is fast and responsive then07:36
FrogzooAyabara: k3b07:36
_azraelxcdroast07:36
samuCan't you set any options for the screensavers anymore?07:37
pantharSamus_Aran, and it has a linux server component?07:37
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xkahnFrogzoo, Hmm..  That's an interesting bug, but not it.07:37
Samus_Aranpanthar: unfortunately, no.  it is only Win32 (but the viewer runs perfectly in WINE)07:37
gnosis-withanks.  when I use the gui file browser to browse to a samba share on another linux box, I can right-click the share and do "connect to this server".  this appears to mount the share and place it on my desktop07:37
JohnsonEhey guys. i just downloaded the Linux version of zsnes.. do I need to compile it myself? :o07:37
xkahnFrogzoo, This problem is the printer port isn't even being listed when I try to (re)configure the printer.07:37
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AyabaraFrogzoo: thanks. somehow I end up installing a bunch of kde apps in my ubuntu. is this a sign I should run kubuntu instead?07:37
gnosis-wihowever, I can't figure out where on my fs the share is actually mounted07:38
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srikanthhey07:38
FrogzooAyabara: imo - only 2 kde apps worth having k3b & amarok07:38
FrogzooAyabara: and they run fine under gnome07:38
_azraelgnosis-wi: Simple. Open a command line and type:07:38
_azraelmount07:38
srikanthhow do i prevent a lkm from loading07:38
_azraelIt will list all mounted devices and where they're mounted.07:38
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Samus_Aranpanthar: I always use it when my relatives phone me up with computer problems, heh.  even when I was overseas, it was still nice and fast.  I usually run Radmin in WINE on its own X server, so that all keyboard shortcuts work, and just put it in fullscreen mode07:38
pantharSamus_Aran, Well give NX a whirl - I use it on a 512Kbit uplink, and unless I am loading images, it feels faster than VNC on a LAN07:38
AyabaraFrogzoo: ok. I like krusader too actually. only thing I miss from windows is total commander07:38
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Samus_AranI miss Windows [95]  Explorer07:39
FrogzooAyabara: I'm not familiar with tc07:39
gnosis-wi_azrael: I tried that.  the mount command does not list the share07:39
Samus_Arana very efficient file manager.  Windows 98 and above have awful file managers07:39
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pantharah, the Non-IE Explorer :)07:39
Samus_Aranslow, bloated, annoying07:39
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AyabaraFrogzoo: at work, all I need to get thru the day is emacs and total commander :-D07:39
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Mikelogo usa07:39
_azraelgnosis-wi: That's odd... in theory, that should mean it's not mounted.07:39
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Mikeloi guess soccer's not our game07:40
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Samus_Aranand XP even threw in a dog that makes you want to kill.  I don't know why they broke a perfectly good Find dialog for XPs lame and difficult to use Search07:40
AyabaraMikelo: still 0-2?07:40
_azraelgnosis-wi: If it's any help, I can tell you how to mount a samba share from the command line.07:40
Mikeloyup07:40
lavlandi have a rather n00bish question...: since ubuntu originates from Debian, and full debian has 3 DVDs. Whats Ubuntu missing?07:40
gnosis-withat's what I thought too!  but there's an icon the desktop and it does take me there.  This doesn't help me though, when I have to browse to the share through the fs07:40
Mikeloactually i'm italian but i lived in the us for along time07:40
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JohnsonEhey guys. i just downloaded the Linux version of zsnes.. do I need to compile it myself? :o07:40
Samus_AranAyabara: what is Total Commander ?  a Win32 file manager ?07:40
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Mikelosorry guys07:41
Samus_AranJohnsonE: nope07:41
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gnosis-wiwell, normally I would mount from cli with mount -t smbfs //server/share /mnt/point.  Is that not correct for drake?07:41
Frogzoolavland: about 2 DVDs ;)07:41
Samus_AranJohnsonE: did you install the package for Ubuntu, or did you download it from the web site ?07:41
Dial_toneis there an easy way of viewing/editing which scripts in /etc/init.d/ start automatically? like a show command07:41
izm99why is gnome-btdownload so much slower than azureus?07:41
ajopaulhi i have two soundcards one is pci (cmi8378) and the other is onboard via8233 how do i make my via sound card the default one07:41
FrogzooDial_tone: ls /etc/rc2.d/S*07:41
Inquisitor_Hexhey, guys, I have a bit of a RAID0 problem here. Anyone willing to help?07:41
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AyabaraSamus_Aran: yep, with support for writing your own plugins.07:41
izm99and is there any way to speed gnome-btdownload up?07:41
JohnsonEsamus: i downloaded it from the site.07:41
Samus_AranDial_tone: I am sure there is a GUI for it, as even Red Hat 5.2 had one07:42
Mikeloanybody here use rosegarden? any musicians here?07:42
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JohnsonEwhat's rosegarden?07:42
JohnsonEi'm interested.07:42
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Samus_AranJohnsonE: I recommend using a package for it, so it can easily be updated from your package manager07:42
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ronoveWhen I try to compile rxvt-unicode, it's stop saying perl isn't useable, however installed.. checking config.log, I found out it has sth to do with "ld -lperl" can't find -lperl.. any solution?07:42
_azraelgnosis-wi: Can you paste the output of:07:42
MikeloJohnsonE, http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/07:42
_azraells -gh /home/yourusername/Desktop/nameofshare07:42
_azrael?07:42
Samus_AranJohnsonE: the less software you install outside the package manager, the better.  makes for an easier-to-maintain system07:42
Inquisitor_HexCan anyone help me with a RAID0 setup under Ubuntu?07:42
JohnsonEsamus: ok, do i need to add a repository for that?07:42
sparkleytoneits pretty frustrating that gcc and such aren't installed by default07:43
Samus_AranJohnsonE: it shows up on my list, I have universe and multiverse07:43
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_azraelsparkleytone: apt-get install build-essentials07:43
_azraelsets up a pretty good environ07:43
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JohnsonEsamus: ok thanks.07:43
sparkleytone_azrael: thx.  still frustrating tho ;)07:43
gdbInquisitor_Hex: sudo mdadm --create --raid-level=0 --num-devices=2 /dev/md0 /dev/hdb1 /dev/hdc1 (or something to that effect). ;-)07:43
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gnosis-wi_azrael: No such file or directory!07:43
_azraelsparkleytone: Yeah, I come from gentoo, so trust me, it was annoying to me at first too.07:43
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noeliaola que como estas vero eres buena prestandome la contraseaTIA QUE TE PASA ESTAS CON ALGIEN DE LA CLESE NO NES CON MIGO07:44
nenaola07:44
nenanoe donde estas07:44
LadyNikon!es07:44
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:44
akudewanI'm having a strange problem. I can't login to orkut with firefox, the login frame is blank. I can use konqueror though07:44
noeliaOLA QUE COMO TE VA GORDA07:44
sparkleytone_azrael: i come from slackware, so ANY sane package manager is a boon ;)07:44
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gnosis-wiThe icon on the desktop that takes me to the share appears to be some kind of alias...but an ls -lah of Desktop doesn't show any hint of it07:44
Samus_AranJohnsonE: http://auk.ca/de  << that is the wiki page about adding repos07:44
_azraelgnosis-wi: How about07:44
_azraells -gh /home/youruser/Destkop/07:44
_azraelto a pastebin?07:44
AyabaraI have the feeling noelia wants something very bad07:44
akudewanI tried deleting all cookies and temp files07:44
JohnsonEi don't see anything about VST or soundfont support in rosegarden :(07:44
blenda!pt07:45
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.07:45
_azraelsparkleytone: Ouch. I switched away from gentoo because I ran into circular dependencies one to many times + the portage tree was easy to break.07:45
Samus_AranJohnsonE: is VST the unified plugin support, or what is it ?07:45
noeliaERES UNA VUENA AMIGA QUE TE BAS Y NU DICES NADA Y Y ME DEJAS SOLA CONECTADA07:45
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NoUsenoelia stop07:45
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JohnsonEsamus: yes.. if I understand what you're saying :O07:46
pantharmi connectada esta cerrado al burrito :(07:46
sparkleytone_azrael: definitely had that problem in gentoo before, not to mention vanilla debian.  ubuntu has the right mix of sanity and elegance for me.  except for not being able to 'make' out of the box :)07:46
nenatio kero ke llega lla el viernes07:46
NoUse!es07:46
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:46
gnosis-wi_azrael: ls doesn't seem to show the icon no matter what.  What's a pastebin?07:46
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Samus_Aransparkleytone: most people that want to compile software know how to operate a package manager, though07:46
ajopaulhi how do i disable one sound card if i have two,07:46
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noeliaYO ESTOY NERVIOSA Y SE PASA LOS DIAS MUY RAPIDO OSEA COMO LAS PIJAS07:47
pantharlots of solder07:47
_azraelgnosis-wi: Essentially, to avoid flooding the channel, pastebins are sites that you can post an amount of text to temporarily, and then link people to it.07:47
pike_ajopaul: is one onboard sound?07:47
buzzed_hi07:47
LuKe-LuKedoes anybody is able to help my with xgl/compiz (dapper, ati, amd64)07:47
Samus_Aransparkleytone: I think it's good to not have it in stock mode, as Joe Schmoe is likely to screw up a new system compiling custom apps by following instructions on a page07:47
ajopaulpike_:  yes, i want to disable the other pci one..07:47
_azraelgnosis-wi: eg. http://pastebin.com/07:47
_azraelBut if it doesn't show up, don't bother.07:47
FrogzooLuKe-LuKe: -> #ubuntu-xgl07:47
gnosis-wi_azrael: ah, ok.  but in this case, that command gives me no result anyway.  There's nothing on my desktop07:47
LuKe-LuKethanks07:47
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buzzed_i am not getting sound playing quicktime though the browser07:48
_azraelHmm. Then it's too much apart of gnome for me to help, sorry.07:48
buzzed_dapper07:48
noeliaYO CREO QUE INNORARTA VA A SER LO MEJOR DE TODO PARA PASARLO BIEN NNO ATI SINO ALAS GRANDES07:48
tristanmike!es07:48
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:48
JohnsonEdoes ubuntu come pre-packaged with creative soundcard drivers?07:48
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blenda!tell blenda about pt07:48
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gnosis-wi_azrael: thanks anyway.  I'll continue researching how this "mount" works07:48
buzzed_my sound works generally though07:48
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Frogzoognosis-wi: man mount07:48
izm99rosegarden looks great for MIDI, but is there something that would be better for, say, creating ogg/mp3 quality electronic music?07:48
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SAM_themanOk i am back07:49
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_azraelFrogzoo: no, he doesn't mean the mount command, he means a mount he's launching from w/in gnome07:49
JohnsonEi'm wondering the same as izm. wine can't run FL Studio07:49
noeliaBUENO ME CONTESTAS O ME BOY A SALIR ME ESTOY ABURRIDA07:49
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_azraelFrogzoo: It doesn't go into themtab07:49
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MetaMorfoziShow can i start a graphical app from tty, to display 0?07:50
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samuHow can you edit the screen saver properties in dapper?07:50
gnosis-wiFrogzoo: yeah...when you use "connect to this server" from the GUI, it appears to "mount" the share and place an icon on the desktop, but I can't figure out where the share is actually mounted (it ain't the destop!)07:50
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MetaMorfoziShey shit07:50
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SeveasMetaMorfoziS, language./07:50
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NoUseSeveas thank you07:50
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pike_samu: i normally just 'killall xscreensaver && xscreensaver &' then click on settings..07:51
MetaMorfoziSnailoth kurva anyd07:51
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Snellgroveanyone know of a image resizing program - that does batches of pictures, but keeps the EXIF data in one piece?07:51
naliothMetaMorfoziS: please join #ubuntu-hu07:51
naliothSnellgrove: try imagemagick07:51
Snellgrovehmmm yeah I could lol, of course.. silly me :(07:51
MetaMorfoziSnailoth i don't want to talk that dickehads07:51
Samus_AranMetaMorfoziS: export DISPLAY=":0"07:51
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_azraelDoes anyone know how to cause apt to ignore a single dependency?07:51
Samus_AranMetaMorfoziS: <appname>07:51
Samus_Araner, nm .. :P07:52
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bathhmI've just upgraded to dapper.  But I can't access internet.  System > Administration > network says modem is active.  So does ifconfig, but it says I have lots of Rx errors.  What knob haven't I twisted?07:52
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Dial_tonebath, are you using modem or ethernet?07:53
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_azraelbathhm: Does ifconfig say you have an IP address?07:53
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raissaoie07:54
bathhmyes, and it's the one that the computer always has07:54
mardihi, what do i do when i try to compile a package and it says it needs dependencies?07:54
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Frogzoobathhm: methinks you might want to play with autoneg settings with mii-tool07:54
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AyabaraI have a feeling that my movie clips looked better in xp.. Shouldn't be that way, should it?07:54
raissamais que caralho...07:54
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Seveasraissa, english please07:55
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popeyyay07:55
Seveasdid it work?07:55
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bathhmmii-tool?  where do I learn more. (News to me!)07:55
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rcrockeris there an easy way to have mozilla play microsoft media files using Ubuntu 6.0607:55
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Samus_Aranmardi: first off, are you sure that you should be compiling the package ?07:55
AngryElf1!tell rcrocker w32codecs07:56
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popeyrcrocker: i think *some* microsoft media files aren't supported07:56
jjazzsparkleytone: apt-get install build-essential07:56
AngryElf1!wmv07:56
ubotuit has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.07:56
popeyrcrocker: some of the more recent codecs - media player 10?07:56
AngryElf1!tell rcrocker wmv07:56
Samus_Aranrcrocker: yes07:56
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Aragorn_Guardian!tell mkisofs07:56
Frogzoobathhm: sudo mii-tool |grep eth007:56
mardiSamus_Aran: yes, it's not available in the repositories, have universe and multiverse turned on07:56
rcrocker(w32codecs) ok thanks.07:56
Aragorn_Guardian!tell Aragorn_Guardian mkisofs07:56
sparkleytonejjazz: thx...i got it from _azrael07:56
AngryElf1ubotu is being retarded :(07:56
ubotuAngryElf1: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:56
Ayabaraare the codecs I use in windows better than the ones I use in linux?07:56
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popeyAyabara: some are the same07:57
akudewanmardi: Find out which dependency it needs, and then apt-get install it.07:57
rcrockerWhere would I get the w32codecs? and what plugin should I use in mozilla?07:57
popeyrcrocker: i think the page you've been given explains that07:57
Samus_Aranbluefoxicy: heh07:57
mardiakudewan: tried that, not available07:57
watson5404 6nope he forgot 'about'07:57
popeyrcrocker:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:57
pike_rcrocker: in general i prefer mplayer so i use the mozilla-mplayer package you still need w32codecs too07:58
Samus_Aranmardi: okay good then.  are you installing to your ~ dir or making a .deb package to install ?  (or just installing it to /usr and making the system messy)07:58
rcrockerO ok thanks for your help07:58
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Samus_AranI recommend MPlayer as well07:58
watson540wrong chan :(07:58
Samus_Aranmost efficient player in existence07:58
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Morrowynmplayer is nice07:58
mardiSamus_Aran: installing to /home/07:58
rcrockerI have used mplayer in the past and I agree it is a good player.07:58
Dial_tonehmm07:58
_azraelSamus_Aran: I love mplayer too, but getting it onto ubuntu can be a pain.07:58
mardiSamus_Aran: /home/our.user/07:58
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Samus_AranI have converted a few Win32 users to MPlayer as well, even without a GUI they like it more .. as it is just so darn fast, and can play anything you toss at it07:59
SpecVLC is sexier than mplayer07:59
Specalthough mplayer can play movies converted to ascii on the fly...07:59
Ayabarawhen I try to erase a cdrw disc in k3b I get "Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)"07:59
frying_fish_azrael: in what way, mplayer is simply an apt-get install away on ubuntu07:59
Morrowynspec, yeah thats cool, ascii rendering :)07:59
frying_fishbut I agree with Spec , vlc is much nicer looking.07:59
Samus_Aran_azrael: I just followed the directions on that RestrictedFormats page, added the two repos (uni+multiverse) and installed every codec package I could find =p07:59
ajopaulhi how do i disable one soundcard  if i have two one is onboard and i want to make this as default not the pci one..???07:59
_azraelAyabara: Try setting the suid bit on it or launching it with sudo.07:59
frying_fishSamus_Aran: mplayer can only play the stuff once you have codecs for it07:59
frying_fishvlc just has the stuff built in to itself.07:59
Specajopaul: There's a menu option for that in gnome08:00
Dial_tonedoes rhythmbox have an option to copy my Ipod library from ipod to computer? I had to reinstall so the ipod is the only place some of those files exist.08:00
frying_fishajopaul: unplug the pci one?08:00
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Ayabara_azrael: setting the suid bit??08:00
Samus_AranVLC does look nice, having a decent GUI and all, but I find it is never anywhere near as good as MPlayer at playing any non-standard codecs08:00
ajopaulSpec: is it ?08:00
anodesniHy08:00
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anodesniI seem to have a problem with tvtime08:00
Samus_AranI often had graphical glytches and missing video streams and subtitle problems in VLC08:00
_azraelAybara: Yeah. Essentially, it sets it to try to automatically sudo, but just try the sudo first if you don't know about the suid bit.08:00
Specajopaul: System->Preferences->Sound08:00
frying_fishSamus_Aran: maybe, but they don't use patented codecs08:00
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frying_fishthey do it all from F/OSS stuff, so it will lag behind a bit.08:01
SpecI don't know....VLC is pretty fast and good quality for me08:01
anodesniIn tvtime  I only have 1 channel, can anybody help me?08:01
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frying_fishYeah, it plays everything (apart from WMV9) perfectly for me I find.08:01
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dionysosAyabara: try to chmod it08:01
frying_fishand its new skin for 0.8.5 looks nice.08:01
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EleafI'd like to create a poll.08:01
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EleafHow many of you wireless users, wireless worked just fine, without much fuss?08:02
_azraelMine.08:02
frying_fishEleaf: yup08:02
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frying_fishinstalled ubuntu, installed network-manager-gnome08:02
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Eleaffrying_fish, thank you.08:02
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frying_fishand everything works hunkey dory.08:02
ajopaulSpec: thanx! wonder how i overlooked tat..08:02
Ayabara_azrael: seems to work with sudo08:02
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_azraelEleaf: I had to set my WEP key, but that's to be expected08:02
Eleafok08:02
Gradius9gm. doesnt ubuntu support WPA?08:02
Samus_Aranfrying_fish: that isn't actually true.  there are tons of codecs out there which are used widely, even though it is not actually legal to do so.  and then there are all the codecs which *are* currently allowed, but are patented and they can change their licensing at any time (as UniSys did with its LZW compression used in GIF files)08:02
guardwhat are the header file names for the alsa sound system08:02
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Ayabaradionysos: chmod on /dev/sg0?08:02
bathhmhang on!  I'll try asap.08:02
Specajopaul: maybe because I(and most people?) would expect to find that in the administration menu instead of the preferences menu08:03
anodesniI only get one channel with tvtime the tvtime-scanner doesn't seem to work, anybody help me?08:03
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_ojsa_is this the right channel to ask for help with ubuntu 6.06 with lvm ?08:03
Samus_Aranfrying_fish: VLC would be able to play almost nothing if it used no patented codecs08:03
_azraelAybara: OK, so then you have two options: 1.) Use sudo when launching k3b. 2.) Set the suid bit on k3b. Which do you want to do?08:03
_ojsa_08:03
xkahn...08:03
xkahnSo printing is working now.08:03
Tomcat__ojsa_: Yes it is.08:03
anodesniI only get one channel with tvtime the tvtime-scanner doesn't seem to work, anybody help me?08:03
guardnevermind got it08:03
xkahnBut the configuration still says the printer is connected to parallel port 0.08:04
Ayabara_azrael: sounds like 2) is a one time job, so I think I want that one08:04
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frying_fishwell ok, in that case, you don't have to mess around with more packages, its just one package, that deals with everything (even on windows) so its much simpler to set up08:04
Morrowyn_ojsa_, just ask your question in channel and hope for the best that anyone can help you08:04
frying_fishand streams better than mplayer seems to08:04
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Ayabaramy movie clips looks better in windows-vlc than in ubuntu-vlc. shouldn't those codecs be the same at least?08:04
st_ironhi08:04
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SpecAyabara: It could have something to do with your video card driver, ne?08:04
frying_fishAyabara: yes they are, but which version of vlc are you using in each08:04
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frying_fishand could be what Spec says.08:04
AyabaraSpec: I thought so. I haven't installed the ATI drivers yet08:05
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Ayabarasomeone told me to use the defaults since I'm not a gamer08:05
anodesniI only get one channel with tvtime the tvtime-scanner doesn't seem to work, anybody help me?08:05
frying_fishAyabara: which card,08:05
sharpi need help with ndiswrapper08:05
JohnsonEyou guys think VMWare would be able to support FL Studio? I NEED to make music but I don't wanna have to log onto windows every time :(08:05
frying_fishas fglrx may work quite well for it.08:05
bathhmHave executed sudo mii-tool | grep eth0.  Result was " eth0: negotiated 100base Tx-FD, link ok "  But ifconfig still shows Rx errors08:05
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BazziJohnsonE: as long as it doesnt need 3d acceleration yes08:06
Samus_Aranfrying_fish: does VLC play MP3 streams (in just about every XviD/DivX file out there) ?  AAC/AVC ?  MPEG-4 ?  etc.  if it plays any of them, it is using patented formats08:06
samuliJohnsonE: there's rosegarden for linux.. you might want to try that.08:06
JohnsonEexcellent. it just need a lot of audio stuff.08:06
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Samus_AranAC3 as well08:06
JohnsonEsamuli: I looked into it, it doesn't seem like it does what i need it to08:06
anodesniI only get one channel with tvtime the tvtime-scanner doesn't seem to work, anybody help me? Can I manually edit the frequency list???08:06
_azraelAybara: OK, find out where the k3b binary is, then:08:06
_azraelsudo chmod u+s /path/to/k3b08:06
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Ayabarafrying_fish: I always forget. it's an inspiron 6000, and I think it's a radeon 970008:06
Samus_Aran(and DVDs with CSS)08:06
SpecSamus_Aran: mp3 isn't copyrighted in america anymore?08:06
_azraelAybara: If you can't find it, try:08:06
_azraellocate k3b08:06
frying_fishAyabara: that should be covered by fglrx.08:06
Ayabara_azrael: thanks08:06
SpecSamus_Aran: I think what he meant to say was everything in VLC is free and opensource, and it's free/opensource implementations of patented formats08:07
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frying_fishthats what I meant yes,08:07
Samus_AranSpec: it is fully patented.  currently they only charge for encoders, and ignore the people just decoding .. but their rules do state that there are fees even for the decoder.  they currently only go after hardware manufacturers, though08:07
spaceyJohnsonE: http://ubuntustudio.com/08:07
frying_fishwhereas mplayer just "hacks" at using the windows dll's for codecs.08:07
Ayabarafrying_fish: ok, and fglrx should be ok on a fresh dapper install?08:07
frying_fishAyabara: indeed08:07
SpecI thought mp3 was free in the US now, and the patent still held in the UK08:08
Samus_Aranfrying_fish: MPlayer can use nearly every codec in existence08:08
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frying_fishget linux-restricted-modules08:08
Samus_Aranfrying_fish: proprietary or otherwise08:08
anodesniQUESTION: I only get one channel with tvtime the tvtime-scanner doesn't seem to work, anybody help me?08:08
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Samus_Aranfrying_fish: they have full support for codecs like Snow and Ogg/Theora08:08
Specanodesni: please stop repeating yourself08:08
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JohnsonEspacey: looking into it..08:08
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anodesniI try to get answer08:08
_ojsa_tomcat_: i thought i should test the lastet ubuntu release on my laptop, it's installed with debian and lvm today and i want to use the lvm in the future also, i downloaded the "desktop" iso but it seems just to bootup the live cd and the install application seems to have problems with the lvm and wont allow me to make mountpoint from the lvm partitions. help?? another way to install ubuntu? is it possible to install the ubuntu the same way as on debian (and 08:08
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rigonattiDoes anyone have a clue to install a ATI RADEON 9600 Driver ?08:08
Specanodesni: if someone knew the answer and read it, then they'd answer you08:09
samuliJohnsonE: yeah, there's shortage of good sequencers for linux.. ardour looks it's gonna be beautiful once everything is implemented.08:09
Spec!repeat08:09
joemauchwhat package do i have to install to allow me to run java apps on the web?08:09
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Please give it 10 to 15 minutes before asking a second time, thanks.08:09
Ron_o!ati08:09
Tomcat__ojsa_: Use the alternate CD08:09
ubotuit has been said that ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers08:09
anodesniOk sorry08:09
frying_fishstill, you have to get random extra things rather than install 1 program that has all that playback capabilities, anyway, instead of bitching which is better, we can just say, without choice there would be no competition.08:09
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rigonattiI mean...its works fine ..but only untill 1280x1024 :(08:09
_azraeljoemauch: Try using http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/08:09
Samus_AranSpec: I can't imagine them giving up their patent ... they earn many millions a year just on selling to hardware manufacturers (DVD players, portable music players, etc.)08:09
frying_fishrigonatti: it should be in restricted-modules08:09
Tomcat__ojsa_: The regular Desktop CD doesn't have any special install options like LVM.08:09
_azraeljoemauch: It's got a whole bunch of packages you might want ready for auto install, just check the ones you want and press OK.08:09
frying_fishrigonatti: ok, and above that the problem is?08:09
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_ojsa_tomcat: ok.? so thats the old fashion installer?08:09
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Tomcat__ojsa_: Exactly.08:10
joemauch_azrael, awesome link, thanks08:10
MeGaQuArK_Hello08:10
barrosis it possible to install vmware withou that any-any patch??08:10
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_ojsa_tomcat: thnx i start the download now and try, thnx.08:10
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Ayabarafrying_fish: how can I check that it is indeed working?08:11
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Ayabarafglrxinfo?08:11
frying_fishAyabara: fglrxinfo08:11
skyboxif I want to check if my setup supports SATA; where in console do I find it?08:11
lgc_Hi! A basic "apt" question: How can I know the version of an installed package?08:11
frying_fishand, run glxgears / fgl_glxgears and see what your fps is like.08:11
AyabaraI don't have that command. that's not a good sign, right?08:11
Samus_AranSpec: "Fraunhofer IIS-A, Audio & Multimedia" own most of the MP3 patents, and I think "THOMSON" has more08:11
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rigonattifrying_fish: the maximum resolution option is that08:11
frying_fishrigonatti: that will be in your xorg.conf08:12
frying_fishso, edit that, and add more.08:12
_azraellgc_: the easy way is to look it up in synaptic08:12
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JohnsonEis there a plugin that lets me hear mp3s and stuff in-browser a la quicktime?08:12
bluefoxicy!automatix08:12
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #automatix.08:12
frying_fishJohnsonE: if you use mplayer then mozilla-mplayer will do it.08:12
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skyboxif I want to check if my setup supports SATA; where in console do I find it?08:12
bluefoxicythat's what I wanted, easyubuntu08:12
Tomcat_JohnsonE: I use mozilla-mplayer, but there are other options08:12
frying_fishor, if you use vlc then vlc-mozilla-firefox would cover it.08:12
Samus_AranJohnsonE: sure, the MPlayer browser plugin.  will do almost every format out there.  just make sure you have the MP3, RealPlayer, Windows Media, QuickTime, etc. codecs installed08:13
lgc__azrael, thanks. And the hard one?08:13
frying_fishskybox: how do you mean "support sata"08:13
NoUsebarros https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare08:13
Ayabarafrying_fish: don't have fgl_glxgears, and glxgears says: Unknown device ID 5460, please report. Assuming plain R300.08:13
JohnsonEthank you08:13
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frying_fishat a hardware level, or software?08:13
SpecSamus_Aran: The Fraunhofer patents expire April 2010, at which time MP3 algorithms become public domain.08:13
Samus_AranJohnsonE: only thing that it doesn't do are interactive content, such as the 3D QuickTime formats08:13
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MeGaQuArK_I have an SMB question, is anyone game to try and answer?08:13
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Gradius9Hm, what should I do if I need WPA encryption?08:13
frying_fishAyabara: :s not sure that has installed correctly08:13
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frying_fishdid you also get xorg-driver-ati08:13
bluefoxicy!easyubuntu08:13
_azraellgc_: I don't know the hard one--I don't know the proper apt line for that :/08:13
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.08:13
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SpecGradius9: get wpasupplicant08:13
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JohnsonEsamus: that's fine. i just want basic mp3 and video support :p08:13
_azraellgc_: Before synaptic, I'd just use aptitude for what you're describing.08:13
SpecSamus_Aran: Furthermore, while attempts have been made to discourage distribution of encoder binaries, Thomson has stated that individuals using free MP3 encoders are not required to pay fees. Thus while patent fees have been an issue for companies attempting to use MP3, they have not meaningfully impacted users, allowing the format to grow in popularity.08:13
Gradius9Spec: reading this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html is it outdated?08:13
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skyboxfrying_fish if I have a controller card or it's on my motherboard etc, aka I want to know where I can see my motherboard specs etc in console mode?08:13
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frying_fishskybox: lspci08:14
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lgc__azrael, I never use Synaptic. Where does it hide?08:14
Samus_AranSpec: exactly the same as GIF/LZw08:14
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Ayabarafrying_fish: me neither.. should I just follow the ati wiki then?08:14
frying_fishthat will tell you what it has recognised.08:14
Samus_AranSpec: and any day they can start cracking down and suing individuals and companies of all sizes and rake in billions08:14
frying_fishyeah, good plan.08:14
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zaggynl^awayHi, anybody experienced with kerberos and win2k3 AD ?08:14
Ayabara!ati08:14
ubotuati is, like, totally, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers08:14
_azraelSystem->Administration->Synaptic08:14
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skyboxfrying_fish, thank you08:14
frying_fishSamus_Aran: only in US i think.08:14
frying_fishlots of places will just say "you don't have juristiction, go away"08:14
Ayabarafrying_fish: thanks for helping.08:15
Ayabara(again)08:15
SpecGradius9: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo08:15
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cparkerHi, I have a question about SMB share "shortcuts" created by Nautilus... Anyone able to help?08:15
frying_fishAyabara: you're welcome.08:15
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Samus_Aranunfortunately, more and more countries are jumping on the U.S.A. patent/copyright wagon, as they are in the deep pockets of the US08:15
SpecSamus_Aran: You mean, in 2009?08:15
Spec:)08:15
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frying_fishiirc, UK and France both recently decided to not go along with it.08:15
sebastianna08:15
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SpecEU doesn't recognize software patents fully08:16
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spikebyet08:16
Specit's unknown whether they will hold up in courts or not08:16
Samus_AranSpec: one would hope they wouldn't be as shady as UniSys (massively building up popularity, then suing like mad), but they do still go after anyone earning money even indirectly from an MP3 encoder08:16
lgc__azrael, got it. Thanks.08:16
SpecIt seems like they just passively go after hardware manufacturers08:16
SpecThat's a pathetic way to earn money, seriously :-/08:17
frying_fishright anyways, my question, when compiling audacious, from SVN, on this particular machine I always get the following error: http://pastebin.com/704775 , now, it compiles on my other ubuntu box, and other things compile as well, so I know its not the program, what is the issue I am having though, if anyone knows?08:17
spikebeh, most HW manufacturers pay them, no lawsuits needed08:17
s3phir0th115Even when mp3 isn't the best....08:17
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cparkerI have all of my music stored on a network drive, and I'm accessing it using Samba. I'd like to play this music with amaroK and add it all to my Collection. In order to do that, I need to add the SMB mountpoint to amaroK's Collection. However, I cannot find the SMB "shortcut" that Nautilus put on my Desktop... Anyone able to help?08:17
Specnaa, i meant UniSys08:17
sebastiannI am planning on removing XP on my first hard disk. and install XP inside  Ubunut on my second hard disk.  and then using the first disk as more space where I can save stuff.  however I am wondering if I can save programs and there settings on XP.  and then put into my virtual machine.  programs such as Visual Basic for example.  I mean so I don't have to re install it08:17
cr3how can I get wifi working with dapper on an x40 ibm thinkpad? the wifi card is by no means uncommon and, yet, the wifi light is not flickering08:18
zaggynl^awayI'm trying to kinit a user, but I get the following error: 'Cannot contact any KDC for requested realm while getting initial credentials'08:18
SpecOnce mad-suiing ensues (hehe, hehe, hehe.) everyone'll switch to Ogg/Vorbis(Theora=video?)08:18
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_azraelcparker: mount -t smbfs -o username=user,password=password //network/path /filesystem/mountpoint08:18
Samus_AranSnow seems more promising than Theora08:18
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Samus_Aranit needs a lot of CPU, but has much more potential08:18
nbi think i accidentally installed the dapper vnc packages and now can't get any user interface - xserver errors.  I'm using Breezy, any way to go back to remove the vnc package i installed and go back? I don't remember which ones they were exactly cause i was using the synaptic package manager and now i can't see that anymore08:19
cparker_azrael: The Nautilus shortcut's no good, then? It says it's of type x-directory/smb-share08:19
SpecWhat is Snow?08:19
sebastiannI want to remove XP on my first hard disk,  where I have programs such as Visual Basic for example that I do not want to remove.  and that I want to put into a XP virtual machine inside Ubuntu.  is this possible?  and once XP is gone can I just make that first hard disk where XP is a Linux partion that I can save stuff to?08:19
_azraelcparker: Sorry, it may be of some use, but I have no clue how to use it.08:19
Specnb: dpkg -l |grep -i vlc08:19
Samus_AranSpec: a very new video codec08:19
cparker_azrael: Okay, then... I'll try your metod. Thanks. :)08:19
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Specnb: then dpkg --purge <packagename>08:20
frying_fishsebastiann: yes you can for the files, not sure on the copying the installed stuff over, maybe if you copy all the files and the registry.08:20
_azraelsebastiann: Look into wine and cedega for that.08:20
Samus_AranSpec: once it is ironed out, it will offer better compression than XviD/DivX08:20
spikebtheora is supposed to be the stopagap free video solution08:20
SpecSamus_Aran: for the trade off of cpu usage?08:20
Samus_AranSpec: currently it has pretty inefficient decoders, though08:20
ToHellWithGAI would like advice on installing the last.fm player.  it ships as a tarball with an executable in it.  would it be best to just move the executable to /usr/bin?08:20
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kenashi08:20
sebastiann_azreal can you be more specific in what you are trying to tell me08:20
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Samus_AranSpec: I suppose by the time it goes mainstream Joe Schmoe will have twice as fast CPU as is needed =p08:20
_azraelsebastiann: Go look at the WINE project.08:20
kenasi have upgraded ubuntu to 6.0608:20
kenasand i cant execute vmware08:21
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sebastiann_azreal I know about Wine08:21
spikebtarkin is where it's really at08:21
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kenasi tried to install vmmodules08:21
spikebat any rate, it's not a competitor to theora unless it's not patent encumbered.08:21
_azraelsebastiann: In that case, I'm telling you that they'll know much more about how to set up an environment.08:21
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MarsRouterhi] 08:21
cparker_azrael: Is there a way to mount an SMB share without needing root privileges?08:21
Samus_Aranspikeb: Snow is an open format08:21
_azraelcparker: As far as I know, no.08:21
Samus_Aranspikeb: afaik08:21
_azraelcparker: But I'm no expert08:21
Speccparker: you can set the suid bit maybe08:21
spikebSamus_Aran: that would be sweet then :)08:21
Speccparker: but that'd be like having root, so no :p08:21
sebastiann_azreal I have already installed 2000 before inside Linux using a virtual machine with VMware player,  but now I plan to install XP with VMware server inside Ubuntu08:21
cparkerheheh08:22
Gradius9ok, one more question, when I have a ntfs formatted disk with two partions, can I format one of the partions to linux file system and let the other be untouched (ntfs with music files)08:22
frying_fishcparker: add the info to fstab?08:22
frying_fishwhich needs root to edit it08:22
_azraelsebastiann: Ah, makes more sense now.08:22
nbSpec: was that first command two lines? and supposed to be grep -i vnc?08:22
frying_fishbut once its there shouldn't08:22
Samus_Aranspikeb: you can find Snow developers in #MPlayer, as MPlayer is the main (only ?) program that supports it08:22
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Specnb: dpkg -l |grep -i vnc08:22
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Specnb: that's the pipe, same key as \08:22
spikebSamus_Aran: got a link to a project page or anything?08:22
frying_fishand you could try mounting it somehwere in your home dir.08:22
zenithsglintwhat is LaTex?08:22
_azraelsebastiann: So you just need to recover some of your apps? It's probably work better to reinstall them after you install XP to the fake drive.08:22
nbspec: thanks08:22
Speczenithsglint: how you write books08:22
frying_fishzenithsglint: ask google.08:22
cparkerhmmmm.... smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported08:23
Samus_Aranhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_(codec)08:23
Speczenithsglint: it's the language of books, basically :p08:23
_azraelzenithsglint: LaTeX is a formatting language. It's good for lab reports and such.08:23
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pike_Gradius9: dapper can handle ntfs so if i understand you yes08:23
baboguys, I'm reinstalling a server, and my host has said that they've put in my old hd as a slave drive for me to get my old data off. I can't find the drive anywhere though ?08:23
frying_fishcparker: sudo apt-get install smbfs08:23
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zenithsglintOh I gotchya.08:23
zenithsglintthx08:23
Specbabo: in the command line type: fdisk -l08:23
sebastiann_azrael and well this company that I was going to work for installed Visual Basic for me.  and some other programs.  and so I carn't just install them onto XP08:23
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Specbabo: sorry, i meant: sudo fdisk -l08:23
Samus_Aran"Snow is similar to Ogg Tarkin, Dirac (codec), and numerous other wavelet-using codecs."08:23
cparkerah. i thought i had that installed already. thanks, frying_fish.08:23
Samus_AranI had never even heard of Tarkin before08:23
ToHellWithGASamus_Aran: the last.fm player program ships as a directory (Last.fm-1.1.4) containing two directories (cache and data), one text file (copying), and one executable.  i think i should put it somewhere then make a symbolic link.  how can i do that?08:23
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SpecWhat's so good about last.fm?08:24
frying_fishso guys, any ideas on my problem at: http://pastebin.com/70477508:24
Gradius9pike_: hm, but can it handle to format only parts of a ntfs formatted disk, (need that part for linux)08:24
_azraelsebastiann: OK, you can probably recover the files, but whether they'll work properly without their registry keys is questionable.08:24
sebastiann_azreal maybe Visaul Basic and these other programs only need their serial number or some other serial number.  I don't know. stupid commercail programs.  I mean like I could download a trial for it say and register with their serial number?08:24
samuliSpec, are you serious?08:24
n73n53im looking for help with a new hard drive i just installed, can someone pm me for help?08:24
q0mquestion, if you install ubuntu as a client, how do you upgrade it to a server, if at all possible08:24
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samuliSpec, it's one the best things ever.08:24
ToHellWithGASpec: it data mines my music for tags as i play it then lets me use "neighbor radio" streams to find new similar artists08:24
Samus_AranToHellWithGA: first off see how it needs to be run.  can you launch the executable with: ./filename08:24
Specsamuli: in one or two concise sentences, please explain to me why :p08:24
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ToHellWithGASamus_Aran: yes i can.  that's exactly how it's run08:25
ToHellWithGA./player08:25
cparkerfrying_fish, what are you trying to compile?08:25
frying_fishToHellWithGA: most things such as audacious / xmms, have the abilitiy to work with the last.fm stuff.08:25
frying_fishcparker: audacious, but its not a problem with the program.08:25
Specq0m: server is like a client install, without all the 'crap' that's not needed by a server08:25
samuliToHellWithGA: check the faq @ www.last.fm how to configure firefox to use it.08:25
frying_fishI know that, since the code compiles on my other ubuntu box.08:25
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Samus_AranToHellWithGA: I would just stick it in your home dir then, or else choose a directory not used by Ubuntu so that it won't get mixed up with files being used by the package managers08:25
pike_Gradius9: you can resize the disk during install if you need to free up space iow turn one ntfs partition into two:one ntfs and one linux08:25
sebastiann_azreal maybe I can download the programs and register with their serial number?08:25
q0mquestio, if you install ubuntu as a client, is it possible to upgrade it to a server without reinstalling?????08:25
s|kcrimsun_: is there anyway that I can manually force programs to release the sound?08:25
Seveasq0m, sure...08:25
sebastiann_azreal I mean a trial08:25
Gradius9pike_: thanks for info08:25
Specq0m: Theoretically you could apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop08:25
Seveasjust install the server kernel08:25
q0mhow is it done08:26
Samus_AranToHellWithGA: for example you could use /opt or /usr/local/<appname>08:26
ToHellWithGASamus_Aran: could i put a symbolic link to it in /usr/bin so i could just type "lastfm" in any console?08:26
Specq0m: but i would back up any data before you did that08:26
_azraelsebastiann: Yeah, I know what you mean, but I really don't know. I don't think I can help you too much with this, sorry.08:26
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q0mwe just installed it for class, and forgot to install as a server08:26
cparker_azrael: is there a way to make sure this smb share is automounted every time I log in?08:26
Samus_AranToHellWithGA: then create a simple launcher script that switches to that dir and runs it as: ./filename "$@"08:26
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frying_fishToHellWithGA: more than likely, with ln -s08:26
q0mso... you install the server kernal?08:26
samuliSpec: It let's you play music you probably would like by checking what you like listen to.08:26
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Samus_AranToHellWithGA: if you simply symlink it, it probably won't be able to find its data files08:26
sebastiannright so I get rid of XP on the first hard disk.  and got Linux on the second hard disk.  ,but then I want to make a ext3 or whatever partion on the first hard disk.  that I can access from Ubuntu to save stuff to.  how I do that?08:26
s|k is there anyway that I can manually force programs to release the sound? Sometimes after playing flash sound I have to login and log out again from my session so I can listen to mplayer or rythymbox08:26
frying_fishapt-get remove ubuntu-desktop won't uninstall all the graphical apps08:26
samuliSpec: Great way to find new bands to listen to.08:26
yuppiehey, anyone else have an ATI card which displays little black dots on buttons?08:27
Specsamuli: So the music comes from...my own collection?08:27
rigonattiDoes anyone have a clue to install a ATI RADEON 9600 Driver ?08:27
frying_fishsince its just a meta-package, or at least, I don't think it did when I removed it a little while back08:27
frying_fishso cparker any idea on mine.08:27
frying_fishrigonatti: !ati08:27
yuppieI've searched ubuntu forums, but all the results I found say, "search the forum"08:27
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_azraelcparker: put it in your .bashrc08:27
cparkerfrying_fish, i took a look, and I have no idea... :/08:27
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frying_fishubotu: !tell rigonatti about ati08:27
Gradius9I am installing now, but I cant view the whole wizard in the resolution the install is in(640x480) and I can not change it, have lcd that supports 1280x1024 and built in nvidia card mc 400 or something like that with 32 mb shared ram08:27
ubotufrying_fish: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:27
yuppieall my buttons with this radeon is screwed up08:27
frying_fish!ati08:27
ubotufrom memory, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers08:27
samuliSpec, no, last.fm player figures out songs to play from other users lists who like the same bands you do.08:27
ToHellWithGASamus_Aran: is there a more eloquent way to get it into my PATH?08:27
sebastiannI got XP at the moment on the first hard disk with Grub.  However I want to remove XP.  and make that first hard disk a hard disk that I can save stuff to from Linux.  How I do that?08:28
Bassettswhere does xchat keep its logs?08:28
sebastiannand Linux of course is on second hard disk08:28
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Specsamuli: But in the beginning you choose bands or do you just play your own music and it passively collects data?08:28
Samus_AranToHellWithGA: just what I said: a launcher script, in /usr/bin, which does cd /wherever/you/put/it; ./filename "$@"08:28
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frying_fishsebastiann: just copy the files to the partition, then use fdisk / gparted to format the other one.08:28
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yuppiefrying_fish: lol @ the link08:28
ToHellWithGASamus_Aran: what is "$@" ?08:29
frying_fishsamuli: xmms / bmp can both do that aswell with the audio-scrobbler plugin08:29
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Samus_AranToHellWithGA: then anyone can run it by typing 'launchername'08:29
sebastiannfrying_fish copy what files to what partition?08:29
frying_fishyuppie: what link?08:29
samuliSpec, yeah, and you can have last.fm play bands similar to say King Crimson.08:29
Samus_AranToHellWithGA: it passes along any command line parameters08:29
yuppiefrying_fish: some retard thinks you have to reboot after any X change :)08:29
frying_fishsebastiann: whatever you want to back up08:29
Samus_AranToHellWithGA: so if you go: launchername --help08:29
samulifrying_fish: that is last.fm08:29
yuppiefrying_fish: on the ATI driver page08:29
ToHellWithGAok08:29
sebastiannfrom the NTFS XP partion to Linux?  how?08:29
frying_fishsamuli: yes I know, but not using the specific player, just a plugin to those players08:29
ToHellWithGAand that launcher script can be a shell script like you taught me about earlier, right?08:29
frying_fishby mounting the partition08:29
frying_fishand just copying them08:29
kenasrpm -qa | grep kernel08:30
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kenaswhat does this mean ?08:30
frying_fishyuppie: oh ok.08:30
Specevil08:30
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Snellgrovebummer, forums currently offline @_@08:30
sebastiannfrying_fish I am still not that good with Linux.  so how do I mount it?08:30
Ayabara!ati08:30
Speckenas: rpm isn't really used in ubuntu...08:30
ubotuati is probably http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers08:30
rabidphagewhat is intel pentium m???08:30
samulifrying_fish: audioscobbler isn't a player.. it just collects and sends song data to last.fm08:30
frying_fishrabidphage: a processor.08:30
Specrabidphage: intel's mobile processor i think08:30
rabidphageis it p4 or just pentium m08:30
kenasso hw can i download the modules of vmware ??08:30
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barrosNoUse: thanks.. i'll check it out08:30
frying_fishsamuli: yes I know, hence I said it was just a plugin for xmms / bmp08:30
Snellgroverabidphage: an Intel Pentium M is the mobile chip.08:30
rabidphagei'm trying to configure the kernel08:30
Specrabidphage: what's your processor?08:31
Snellgroveits a pretty good chip really, low mhz but it does a lot more work per cycle, than a P4 for example08:31
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Specrabidphage: if you're not entirely sure, look at: cat /proc/cpuinfo08:31
frying_fishrabidphage: not a good idea if you don't even know basic things like that.08:31
Specfrying_fish+108:31
rabidphagepentium m 740 and it has the celeron sticker08:31
samulifrying_fish: not sure what your point was then.. audioscobbler is built-in in amarok, banshee and rhythmbox for example.08:31
kenasor how can i update the kernel ?08:31
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samulifrying_fish: but without the last.fm player you can't access the real goodies of last.fm08:31
kenasso that vmWare works fine ?08:31
rabidphageits says somewhere that the celeron is actually p4 where as pentium m is modified p308:31
Snellgrovekenas, you installing VMWare at the moment?08:32
frying_fishmy point is that why should the guy mess around with getting the player from last.fm which may not work well, when you can use most features in the other plugins.08:32
kenasi have it installed already08:32
cparkerHey, when I installed Ubuntu, I was never asked to set a root password. Anyone know what the default root password is?08:32
SnellgroveI installed the VMWare tools earlier today, on a fresh ubuntu 6.06 :)08:32
kenasi upgraded ubuntu08:32
SnellgroveI did an apt-get install build-essential08:32
kenasand it doesnt work08:32
Speccparker: there is none08:32
frying_fishcparker: there isn't a root account.08:32
frying_fishunless you enable it08:32
cparker...08:32
Speccparker: the first user can do: sudo su -08:32
Speccparker: and type their own password08:32
cparkerseriously? odd08:32
sebastiannkenas  you installing VMware player?  apparnatlly the free VMware server is much better08:32
Speccparker: and you'll have a root command line, but it's not recommended08:32
samulifrying_fish: you can't listen to last.fm radio without the player? That's the whole point of last.fm not to collect and show your song data08:32
frying_fishor sudo -i / sudo -s / sudo bash or other ways.08:32
Speccparker: You shouldn't really ever be 'logged in' as root, you can just use sudo to access any command you need to run as root08:32
frying_fishoh right, well ok then,08:33
Spec!sudo08:33
ubotusomebody said sudo was a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:33
rabidphagei wan't the kernel optimised.. i don't know if its 686 or 38608:33
JohnsonEis vmware-player in synaptic what i need to install vmware?08:33
Specread that, cparker08:33
kenaswell i have my partition done08:33
kenasand everything working fine08:33
frying_fishrabidphage: oh dear, you really shouldn't be doing that then08:33
kenasand since i upgraded  this has stopped working08:33
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kenasany help ?08:33
rabidphageplease tell me if you know08:33
Snellgrovethe only complicated bit of installing VMWare tools was finding the linux header files.. it looks @ something like /src/linux/include when it should be /src/linux-2.6.15-23-386/include08:33
frying_fishrabidphage: google maybe?08:34
JohnsonEis vmware-player in synaptic what i need to install vmware?08:34
ToHellWithGAhow can i change ownership of a file?08:34
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frying_fishToHellWithGA: chmod08:34
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rabidphagefrying_fish: google is inundated with people trying to sell me the processors..08:34
SnellgroveToHellWithGA: right click > properties > permissions :)08:34
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rabidphagefrying_fish: i can't think of a query good enough to sort through the mess08:34
ToHellWithGASnellgrove: you so crazy.  what if my GUI crashes?  what then?08:34
Snellgrovelol08:34
Snellgrovewell, yeah..use chmod :p08:35
Snellgrovebut I dont know the numbers08:35
frying_fishwell, then learn how to use it better.08:35
Snellgrove644 is read...or something for folders and they use 755 a lot too lol08:35
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frying_fish7 = rwx08:35
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frying_fish5 = rx , and its UserGroupOthers08:36
Snellgroveanyway, your GUI shouldn't crash.. your using LINUX ;)  theres no scary explorer.exe08:36
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Eleafhmm08:36
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frying_fishSnellgrove: true, that won't break the system what he's doing, and even if something does break its just a kill -9 away from fixing usually08:36
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Chri[s] how do i completely remove kubuntu and return to regular ubuntu?08:37
sebastiannyou just remove it08:37
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sebastiannKDE08:37
sebastiannstuff08:37
Chri[s] i did08:37
Snellgroveaye, if a program dies a death on me (earlier, a nice Java program did) I just fire up a terminal and use xkill and click on the dieing program... woosh, it goes bye bye :D08:37
Chri[s] but i still get kubuntu splash screen08:37
sebastiannah yes08:37
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JohnsonEis vmware-player in synaptic what i need to install vmware?08:37
sebastiannwell when I upgraded on both my PC to lap top08:37
Chri[s] and now kde and gdm dont do anything at all08:37
higen_so.. any way i could check a version number of a libxxxx.so file by command?08:37
sebastiannfrom Breezy to Dapper08:37
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sebastiannI got the Kubuntu splash screen08:38
cparkerThanks for your help, everyone. It'll take a little while to get used to how Ubuntu does things. I've just started using Ubuntu... I'm a Debian veteran.08:38
sebastiannhowever I had both  Gnome and KDE instaleld08:38
sebastianncan you log in with gdm?08:38
SnellgroveJohnsonE:  probably thats the one yes, if in doubt http://www.vmware.com will have one that'll work, the installers they have are pretty good :)08:38
Chri[s] gdm doesnt load now08:38
FunnyLookinHat!bugs08:38
Chri[s] i just log in command line08:38
FunnyLookinHat!bug08:38
ubotubugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs08:38
Samus_Arangoodbye08:38
sebastiannI think you have to re install GDM08:38
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sebastiannthen08:38
Chri[s] and init X with startx08:38
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sebastiannas for the Kubntu splash screen that's the least important08:39
sebastiann,but I think pretty easy to fix08:39
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frying_fishyeah it is easy to fix08:39
xcoyotequestion how to install : jdk 5.0 using apt-get?08:39
q0mwhats the word on goobuntu, or was that just a myth08:40
frying_fishI can't remember which package it is, but its just dpk-reconfigure (whatever name it is)08:40
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Chri[s] reinstalling08:40
frying_fishanyway, must go people08:40
yuppiedamn :/08:40
winbondwhats goobuntu?08:40
yuppieanyone have a radeon 7000?08:40
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chrisjwhi can anyone help?08:41
yuppieargh, and the forums are currently offline08:41
winbondyuppie: what's your question?08:41
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chrisjwi uninstalled ubuntu08:41
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yuppiewinbond: well I'm getting buttons with dots and lines ;)08:41
Chri[s] i guess its a long installation08:41
yuppiechrisjw: okay, and you're telling this why?08:41
chrisjwI can't boot into windows08:41
winbondyuppie: which driver do you have installed?08:41
chrisjwand I can't reinstall ubuntu08:42
chrisjwI lost the disc08:42
chrisjwit08:42
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yuppiewinbond: I've tried the radeon and ati drivers, and I can't get the proprietary driver to work08:42
chrisjwgrub says error 2108:42
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chrisjwis there anywhere i can get something that will boot me into windows?08:42
Snellgrovechrisjw:  get the windows CD08:42
chrisjwi have08:42
Auridollhello the chan08:42
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chrisjwits asking me for the admin password08:42
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Snellgroveuse the recovery console, and do a "fixmbr"08:42
sebastianndo you mean a boot loader?08:42
chrisjwI don't have one08:42
chrisjwI have tried that08:42
Snellgroveoh :(08:43
Snellgrovefixboot ?08:43
Snellgrovetry that08:43
chrisjwno i mean08:43
sebastianndo you mean a boot loader?  such as Grub.  so you can boot Windows or Linux?08:43
chrisjwi can't get into the recovery console08:43
chrisjwyes08:43
Snellgroveah... crap :S  how so?08:43
sebastianna boot loader?08:43
chrisjwat the moment all i am getting is error 2108:43
pantharIf I configure dhclient to send a hostname to the DHCP server, should I be seeing that on the command line?  I used to see "-h blahblah" on an older distro I had.08:43
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chrisjwit is asking for the admin password if I use windows CD08:43
MarsRouterhi08:43
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Snellgrovedont know it then huh :(08:43
chrisjwbut i have no admin password, i've tried null but it is not working08:43
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Snellgrovetry  just pressing enter ?08:43
MarsRouterhow to update firefox ??08:43
chrisjwyes08:43
chrisjwnul08:43
sebastiannhave you got files on Windows that you want to access?08:43
Snellgrovebummer :|08:43
chrisjwyes08:43
chrisjwI don't want to lose my settings either08:44
sebastiannyou should be able to access them with say the Knoppix Live CD08:44
sebastiannand you could back them up08:44
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chrisjwno no no!!!!08:44
AuridollGot my fresh Ubuntu Dapper running, but after a couple of minutes, Gnome auto-log-out my current session, how to stop that ?08:44
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llhello08:44
SnellgroveYeah, only thing I can think of is a live CD of some form08:44
_absolution_how do you install open office??08:44
gn0meHas anyone else been having troubles with loading their gnome-panel?08:44
Snellgroveor somehow 'break in'  lol ;)08:44
Snellgrovedunno how though08:44
llu guys can suck my balls08:44
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llu are all nerds08:44
sebastiannoh you forgot your Windows admin password?08:44
llreally08:44
llme08:44
Snellgrovewell, you are in an operating system channell, ll ;)08:44
chrisjwthere is no admin password08:44
llo dod08:44
Auridollno thanks you ll ;)08:44
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bohais it possibile to change owner of the file or dir08:45
llim sending a virus08:45
watson540 why alll the jealousy ll?08:45
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dixiehi!08:45
panthargood for you08:45
spacey!ops08:45
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!08:45
llhi08:45
panthar*wave*08:45
watson540oh no!! a VIRUS!! *trembles*08:45
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AuridollIs ll starting to troll like hell ?08:45
Snellgrovewhat an idiot08:45
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chrisjwis there no way I can have GRUB boot winxp?08:45
AuridollROTFL08:45
gn0meHe'd have to trick me in to running said virus to infect me.08:45
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vjtbut, on the nerd point, he was right08:45
Snellgroveyeah, chrisjw08:45
vjt:D08:45
Snellgroveit is possible08:46
winbondyuppie: do the "installing the driver" part from here http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide08:46
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Snellgrovechrisjw: , let me google for you lol08:46
llyo08:46
chrisjwi've tried that08:46
llsk08:46
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chrisjw:but if you can help08:46
llsfd08:46
chrisjwthat would be good08:46
llsfd08:46
llsfd08:46
Snellgrovething is, grub will only point at the NTLDR08:46
llsfd08:46
Snellgroveand that takes over08:46
llsd08:46
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Snellgroveah dontcha love the /ignore command ;) bye bye...  ll08:46
llryanf likes shit08:47
gn0meHas anyone else gotten: (gnome-panel:27398): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_destroy: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed08:47
waldyola08:47
chrisjwthe thing is08:47
gn0meLooping a million times and freezing the panels08:47
GazzaK208.181.176.150 nice IP there08:47
chrisjwmy XP partition is the only partition on this hard drive#08:47
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chrisjwmy linux partition was on another hard drive08:47
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neutrinomassgn0me: It's a bug, report it ...08:47
Snellgroveright, I see08:47
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chrisjwGRUB just loaded the one I needed08:47
chrisjwbut when I removed linux08:47
llryan likes kelsye08:47
chrisjwit errors with error 2108:47
Snellgroveah08:47
SnellgroveI added a 3rd drive to my PC I got error 17...08:47
neutrinomass!ops08:47
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!08:47
llryan loves veronica08:47
gn0meneutrinomass: Not quite sure where to report it. :)08:47
JohnsonEthis vmware crap is confusing :( all i want is a simple virtual windows!08:47
llu did her08:47
Snellgroveso I'm stuck adding more drives unfortunately08:47
Auridollchrisjw: title Windows XP      rootnoverify (hd0,0)   makeactive    chainloader  +1    with carry return and real partition to Windows will do the trick08:48
Hhhhhkudos to the {U|Ku|Xu|Edu}buntu developers and contributors, you just converted a SUSEr to Kubuntu :)08:48
ryanffuck u08:48
llryan likes veronica08:48
neutrinomassgn0me: http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/gnome-panel/+filebug08:48
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gn0meThank you!08:48
llu doo08:48
llu did her08:48
ryanfluke loves jessica08:48
gn0meSo does Archie.08:48
neutrinomassryanf and II, please stop08:48
AuridollGot my fresh Ubuntu Dapper running, but after a couple of minutes, Gnome auto-log-out my current session, how to stop that ?08:48
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ryanfsorry08:48
llwho is this08:48
chrisjwhow do I put that into grub?08:48
gavagaican't ubotu kick these wanksters automagically?08:48
llsorry08:48
llwhats a wankster08:48
lllike someone who wanks alot08:48
gn0meIrv Gotti.08:48
llok08:48
lli get it08:48
Auridolledit /boot/grub/menu.lst  and do NOT forgot to google...08:49
llu hate me cuz im not white08:49
JohnsonEwhere can i get a windows vmx file for vmware? the documentation just says to load it.. doesn't say how to get it08:49
chrisjwhold on08:49
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chrisjwI have no where to enter this command08:49
llu hate me08:49
chrisjwi have already googled08:49
tloudenI've just re-installed ubuntu (fixed fglrx driver problems) and would like to restore my old kde settings (panels, colors, etc.)08:49
tloudencan anybody point me in the right direction for this?08:49
neutrinomass!ops Some help is needed please :)08:49
ubotuokay, neutrinomass08:49
GoLoGo7800gt nvidia card problem - ubuntu 6.06lts - latest drivers installed using kernel sources - headers - build essentials etc... seemed to install fine. xorg.conf configured fine. ubuntu still looks choppy, freezes after a few minutes.08:49
llim gonna kill myself08:49
watson540hey who let the 12 yr old on irc?!08:49
llryan likes veronica08:49
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ryanfim  12 and a half08:49
gn0meBill Gates and his wonderful code.08:49
ryanflol08:49
yuppiell: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-886930093958732115808:49
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chrisjwcan you talk to me in private auridoll?08:49
llim 908:49
ryanf luke loves jonny08:49
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Lukeryanf: who the hell are you?08:50
Flannel!ops08:50
JohnsonE..spamming the ubuntu IRC channel?08:50
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!08:50
yuppiell: enimem and 50 cent are retards ;)08:50
gavagaiit's like an AOL invasion in here08:50
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nbdoes it make sense that i screwed up gdm by installing the wrong version of vnc? i just purged the vnc packages and reconfigured xserver-xorg and tried restarting gdm. No luck. Am i supposed to reinstall gdm??08:50
giovanbrazilian invasion08:50
JohnsonElol guyz stpo ur givin me teh bonar08:50
TobberothI downloaded some .mp4 files.. VLC plays them and audio is fine but the video looks completely crazy!08:50
llwhos spamming08:50
lli think we should ban all spammers08:50
llyo yo08:50
ryanfya08:50
jackscan rhythm box stream music?08:50
lllets chat it up08:50
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llyo my hommies08:50
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Snellgrovehaha    ll!*@* added to ignore list.  <---  bye bye ;)08:50
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docgnomewhere are the gnome-terminal settings kept?08:50
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followmearoundhow do I turn off the ubuntu FB/splash on boot?08:50
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Snellgroveah some bannage08:50
watson540Thank You! Finally08:50
Snellgrovelol just as I worked out how to ignore, too :P08:51
GoLoGo7800gt nvidia card problem - ubuntu 6.06lts - latest drivers installed using kernel sources - headers - build essentials etc... seemed to install fine. xorg.conf configured fine. ubuntu still looks choppy, freezes after a few minutes.08:51
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FlannelSeveas: ll too08:51
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Auridollmaybe in .gnome or so docgnome ?08:51
watson540yup, missed one08:51
watson540lol08:51
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Seveasstill reading back the logs 08:51
chrisjwwtf08:51
chrisjwI CANNOT ACCESS ANY OS08:51
JohnsonEso.08:51
docgnomei can;'t find anything in there08:51
gn0meSeveas: Thank you. :)08:51
chrisjwi get error 2108:51
JohnsonEwhere can i get a windows vmx file for vmware? the documentation just says to load it.. doesn't say how to get it08:51
Seveasdid I miss any?08:51
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gn0meNope, just two.08:51
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FlannelSeveas: nope, just those two.08:51
neutrinomassSeveas: Don't think so, better late than never :) Thanks.08:51
Seveasah, Flannel's still here08:52
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mad_phoenixhas anybody gotten NetworkManager to work?  it works for my wired, but when i try to connect to wireless, it doesnt do anything, including give an error message08:52
halibutWhen I get an error message from azureus I cant close it, does anyone else get this problem?08:52
Seveasj/k :08:52
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gn0mehaha08:52
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SnellgroveJohnsonE:  there are no windows image files, as it'd require a license etc etc08:52
JohnsonEhalibut: yes, i have that problem08:52
mad_phoenixhalibut: yes08:52
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Snellgroveyou have to use something like QEMU to make an image for it08:52
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mad_phoenixhalibut: and, its a problem on other distros too08:52
JohnsonEsnell: well. how can i emulate windows? >_>08:52
Snellgroveor VMWare-Server if you have it08:52
Seveasmad_phoenix, as long as wired is connected n-m won't try wireless08:52
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SnellgroveVMWare-Server is free, and can make images :)08:52
halibutmad_phoenix, JohnsonE  ok thanks08:52
DavidJaqI've been tinkering with Ubuntu for the last week or so but I've ran into a bunch of problems because my computer won't boot from CD despite BIOS being set up correctly... so I think my problem is that I need to update my BIOS. Can someone help me find an update for it? It's Phoenix BIOS 4.0 Release 6.0 with a version of 4s4eb2x0.05a.0009.p0808:52
higen_mad_phoenix: i got it to work after i removed all the configuration (except lo) in the interface conf file08:52
Snellgrovewhat motherboard, DavidJaq :)08:53
JohnsonEsnell: do i need to get server on windows and make the image there?08:53
DavidJaqI have no idea08:53
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Chri[s] okay08:53
DavidJaqIt's a really computer built by Micron08:53
Flannelchrisjw: you need to get the windows CD, and boot to it, you can fix your MBR from there08:53
Chri[s] reinstall removing gdm doesnt work08:53
chrisjwi've SAID THAT ALREYAD08:53
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chrisjwgrr08:53
chrisjwsorry for getting angry08:53
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ToHellWithGAwhen i go to System->Preferences->Sound and try to choose a default sound card, my change is never applied.  any idea how i can fix that?08:53
Chri[s] gdm doesnt start on startup what do i do08:53
mad_phoenixhigen: thats the funny thing...when i remove my eth0 (wireless) from /etc/network/interfaces and restart the machine, gnome won't load...08:53
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chrisjwbut aforementioned is the fact that I have some admin password08:53
chrisjwwhich is null08:53
chrisjwi just press enter08:53
chrisjwbut08:53
rhyddinhey all08:54
chrisjwiut won't08:54
mad_phoenixhigen: however, i can remove it and restart /etc/init.d/networking, and log out/into gnome, but it still doesnt work08:54
Snellgroveno,  JohnsonE. you can use VMWare server, and its easy.. you go new virtual machine...  what type? windows XP or whatever, the size of the virtual disk etc.. boot it up with the CD in and jobs a good'n08:54
DavidJaqHow would I find out what motherboard I have?08:54
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GoLoGoopen the computer open08:54
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GoLoGoup*08:54
JohnsonEahh! vmware-server isn't in synaptic :(08:54
Snellgrovebut if you dont have VMWare Server, you can use QEMU to make an image for it, that the VMWare-Player can understand08:54
Snellgroveand then boot up, and install08:54
SeveasDavidJaq, read the manual that came with it ;)08:54
Snellgrovebut QEMU is harder to use :)08:54
higen_mad_phoenix: you need iface lo inet loopback there08:54
mad_phoenixit is there08:54
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DavidJaqMy computer didn't come with a manual. I bought it at a thrift store08:54
higen_auto lo aswell?08:54
Snellgrovein fact, QEMU is so hard to use I gave up and got the VMWare Server.. luckily its free at the moment :D08:54
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rhyddinanyone know how to 'force' a pentium m to use the full cpu speed even when unplugged? mine drops to around 600mhz instead of the full 1500 on dapper when its unplugged.08:55
mad_phoenixauto lo08:55
mad_phoenixiface lo inet loopback08:55
cr3anyone managed to get wireless working on dapper? I spent an hour trying to get it working on an x40 and nothing fucken works08:55
mad_phoenixis exactly whats in my file08:55
JohnsonEsnell: ok i'll go download it. i have no clue how to install it though >_>08:55
awesometaylorcr3 works for me08:55
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awesometaylori'm using an Atheros card08:55
Snellgroveit has an installer, that works pretty well :)08:55
Chri[s] installing ubuntu-desktop should fix it no?08:55
watson540please if you're going to cuss, at least spell it right08:55
kieranDOArhyddin: Thats powersaving, The settings will probably be in the bios08:55
GoLoGoopen the computer case DavidJaq - look for mother board model # on the circuitry08:55
Snellgrovebut you'll need to point it at some files which aren't where the installer thinks....08:55
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DavidJaqok08:55
Snellgrovethe linux header files08:55
gavagaiwhere does proftpd put its logs in ubuntu?  nothing in /var/log, locate proftpd|grep log gives nothing!08:55
DavidJaqI'll brb08:55
Snellgrovedo an sudo apt-get install build-essential08:55
cr3awesometaylor: that's good to know, so wireless is not totally broken on dapper. that's a pleasant surprise08:55
Thumannokay guys.. out of the blue.. i boot my pc.. and.. no sound.. ?!08:55
mad_phoenixhigen: do you know i NetworkManager keeps a log file at all?08:55
cr3awesometaylor: do you think you would be able to help me out?08:55
Thumannlsof |grep dsp shows nothing08:56
higen_nop.. dont realy know..08:56
awesometaylorcr3 i'll try08:56
GoLoGo7800gt nvidia card problem - ubuntu 6.06lts - latest drivers installed using kernel sources - headers - build essentials etc... seemed to install fine. xorg.conf configured fine. ubuntu still looks choppy, freezes after a few minutes.08:56
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rhyddinkieranDOA: Oh, duh, I totally forgot to check the bios .. thx for rattling my cage .. sometimes i make things harder than i have to08:56
higen_hm.. if your gnome dosent work.. that could be due to some file error. try add # comment at the end of the file08:56
kieranDOArhyddin: Dont we all?08:56
chrisjwanyone have any suggestions?08:56
cr3awesometaylor: is there anything you would like me to try? I could just through random information at you but you might be better at steering the conversation.08:56
higen_sounds very weird actually that it will not start08:56
Seveaswatson540, please behave..08:56
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cr3s/through/throw/08:56
Snellgrovewatson540:  its not as if Windows doesn't have any issues...  if paid-for software was perfect...why does support.microsoft.com exist? ;-)08:56
Snellgroveand technet.microsoft.com08:57
Snellgroveand knowledgebase.microsoft.com....08:57
rhyddinkieranDOA: yep, that was the problem .. lol .. thx!08:57
gavagaino way, windows is totally perfect, everyone who uses it can install it!08:57
Snellgroveand all the others ;)08:57
kieranDOArhyddin: No probs08:57
Thumannnobody can afford perfect software08:57
nostalg1cSnellgrove, thats the weakest excuse ever08:57
watson540we all know ms is buggy lol, but its not free either, two different worlds you're talkig about..08:57
awesometaylorcr3 go into Administration -> Network Settings08:57
watson540most of these people are complainingbecause they too lazy tyoo google, butill shutup now08:57
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Snellgrovelol Windows wont install on my PC without using a floppy disk with my SATA drivers on...  a FLOPPY DISK it requires. my pc has no floppy drive...    Windows has a lame installer.08:57
CanadianSnowhow do i get real player or the equiv of media player on ubuntu?08:57
spikeb!restrictedformats08:58
ubotusee !restricted08:58
Seveasplease, no ms vs linux here08:58
gavagaifloppies are totally elite08:58
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spikeb!tell CanadianSnow about restricted08:58
cr3awesometaylor: there is on "Network Settings", there is "Networking" and "Network tools"08:58
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JohnsonEsnell: can i just uninstall vmware-player then since i'm getting server? or do i need both?08:58
awesometayloryeah yeah, Networking sorry08:58
Thumannso.. no sound.. but aparantly.. /dev/dsp isn't in use.. any ideas.. it has been working fine for ages now..08:58
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rhyddindappers installer is the best thing i've ever used. if u cant install with that then take up another profession!08:58
Hoxzersd08:58
cr3awesometaylor: I'm there and my NIC is right there, activated already08:58
Snellgrovechrisjw: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308402  have a look at that08:58
ToHellWithGASnellgrove: i have to do that for my ATA drivers b/c my board is a little too new and doesn't have a good ATA controller08:58
nostalg1cSnellgrove, fakse. roll your own cd and include SATA drivers. just because you're incapable of operating it, doesn't make it a bad os08:58
gavagaibreezy installer > dapper for me08:58
Seveasrhyddin, it's still pretty buggy08:58
cr3awesometaylor: the ESSID and WEP key are also configured properly08:59
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SnellgroveJohnsonE:  I think you can have both08:59
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walkoverI am trying to install a module and it ask for my linux kernel tree. Where can i find that?08:59
spikebSeveas: along with a good portion of dapper :P08:59
mardiWhat is the best ACPI power management software available?08:59
SnellgroveJohnsonE: no actually i made that up :(08:59
JohnsonEmy dapper install froze halfway through on my first try08:59
Hoxzer__How do I enanble auto login?08:59
Snellgrovei tried player earlier, and it didnt allow me to...08:59
rhyddinSeveas: Granted, but for those it works for it is the best method of 'try b4 u buy' that is out there.08:59
Seveaswalkover, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)08:59
Thumannwalkover: /usr/src/linux-xxxx08:59
Snellgrovebut that was on an XP machine @ work..08:59
JohnsonEsnell: so i should just uninstall?08:59
yuppiehuh08:59
walkoverthanks08:59
GoLoGodoes anyone know where i can get support for my 7800gt nvidia card, this is the third time ive been on here, no one has helped - links/forum topics anything recent would do.08:59
SpecSeveas: you control ubotu?08:59
Snellgrovegive it a go, I spose.. you can always reinstall later :)08:59
yuppiehow awkward08:59
awesometaylorcr3, hmm i'm not sure then.  try double checking your keys08:59
Seveasrhyddin, absolutely, it's the best thing since sliced bread08:59
spikebHoxzer__: system>administration>login window08:59
SeveasSpec, not yer08:59
Seveasyet*08:59
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JohnsonEsnell: main qyestion i guess is do I NEED player to access a virtual system?08:59
walkoveri have the headers. Did'nt think it was the same thing.09:00
Snellgroveyes09:00
Snellgroveor the server09:00
TobberothGah, what's the command to exctract a  bz2 tar? I thought tar -xj filename09:00
SpecSeveas: do you know where i can get his source?09:00
Grommetwhat version of kde is available for ubuntu?09:00
yuppiehas anyone had any troubles with those Dell motherboard with an ati radeon?09:00
SeveasSpec, apt-get install blootbot09:00
spikebGrommet: 3.5.209:00
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mardiWhat is the best ACPI power management software available? :)09:00
cr3awesometaylor: I did, then the network manager tries to reinitialize the connection and it still doesn't work.09:00
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duckdownIs there like an all-purpose wireless networking utility?  Like I plan on bringing my laptop to a buddies tonight, but I'm a rookie user and have limited experience with commandline and setting up the keys and authenticating by hand.  Is there a tool I can use that will let me select a wireless network, enter the keys, authenticate, etc?09:00
Grommetthanks, spike, looking to switch distros and trying to see which ones are more current :)09:00
Specthanks09:00
spikebduckdown: networkmanager09:00
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rabidphagedrivers/scsi/built-in.o: In function `do_drive_get_GTF': multiple definition of `do_drive_get_GTF'09:00
rabidphagedrivers/ide/built-in.o: first defined here09:00
rabidphageld: Warning: size of symbol `do_drive_get_GTF' changed from 575 in drivers/ide/built-in.o to 1307 in drivers/scsi/built-in.o09:00
rabidphagemake[2] : *** [drivers/built-in.o]  Error 109:00
rabidphagemake[1] : *** [drivers]  Error 209:00
rabidphagemake[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15'09:00
spikebGrommet: cool, have fun09:00
rabidphagemake: *** [stamp-build]  Error 209:00
Hoxzer__spiked: it doesn't load any command to do it ?09:00
spikebGrommet: i do that sometimes :)09:00
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awesometaylorduckdown: try networkmanager09:00
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rhyddinSeveas: I've been installing nix since the late 90's (slack, crux, all kinds of cl installs) this is the first one where i could hand the cd to my mother n law and she was able to do the install herself. simply amazing.09:00
Grommet:)09:01
AlatiusHm, I have the problem that my computer will not shutdown. It just stays on "Will now halt". Thing is that it worked with the 386 kernel, but when I installed the 686 kernel package instead, it won't work anymore. Ideas?09:01
SpecI hate it when people regurgitate crap onto my screen :-/09:01
Snellgroveimpressive, rhyddin :D09:01
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duckdownspikeb> thanks, does it come with ubuntu or do I need to apt-get it?09:01
Ron_orhyddin, it's because linux as a whole has progressed.09:01
catpittsburge needs a qb09:01
spikebduckdown: i think you have to install it09:01
Snellgroveits good news really, Ubuntu is really progressive the "linux for the desktop" thing at incredible speed, really...   its acomplished much :)09:01
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Ron_obut ubuntu still puts together a heck of a package.09:01
ToHellWithGAcouldn't rabidphage have been sent a ubotu message for spamming telling him to use a pastebin?09:01
GoLoGo7800gt nvidia card problem - ubuntu 6.06lts - latest drivers installed using kernel sources - headers - build essentials etc... seemed to install fine. xorg.conf configured fine. ubuntu still looks choppy, freezes after a few minutes.09:01
steveklI'm getting ready to try ubuntu (as in, not kubuntu) for the first time09:02
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gavagaiif i have a pentium III after i install ubuntu i should switch to 686 kernel right?09:02
awesometaylorcr3  does your router do DHCP? if not you'll have to put things like ip, and default gateway in09:02
gavagaiit's a 386 now09:02
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spikebgavagai: it wont make much of a difference under normal use09:02
Snellgrovegavagai: you can do, as its more optimised :)  but it doesnt make a huge difference09:02
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gavagaiwell i like optimisation09:02
gavagaiwhen it's easy.  :)09:02
Snellgrovehow long does the ban last in this channel if you accidentally paste a load of crap?  or is it indefinate?09:02
spikebgavagai: then go for it09:03
Snellgrovelol gentoo user?09:03
gavagaithanks09:03
Snellgrove:D09:03
spikebSnellgrove: not very09:03
Seveasgavagai, apt-get install linux-686 09:03
gavagaianti gentoo if what i've read is accurate.  :09:03
gavagailol09:03
TobberothSome help with compiling please?09:03
rhyddinHey, I've been trolling the forums for about half an hour but cant find a straight answer: will XGL work with an ATI 7500? Anyone? Bueller?09:03
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gavagaii'm more into the easy than the optimised.  heh09:03
Seveasrhyddin, it will most likely *not*09:03
Snellgrovei tried gentoo, but the installer confused me....  a lot.09:03
spikebi would think it would, at least theoretically09:03
Snellgrovewas a while ago though, i'll stick with Ubuntu :)09:03
rhyddinthats all i needed to hear .. now i wont waste my time on it ;)09:03
_azraelSnellgrove: I switched from gentoo. Installing by hand works a LOT better than their automated stuff.09:04
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JohnsonEthe ubuntu installer isn't as flawless as i'd have liked though.. i accidentally deleted a hard drive in the process >_>09:04
SnellgroveI'm too n00b to do Gentoo installation though!09:04
cr3awesometaylor: nevermind, this is not going anywhere. thanks anyhow.09:04
gavagaii'm sure portage is cool but i'm not going to spend 3 days compiling my desktop09:04
_azraelSnellgrove: I have two stage-1s in my house right now. Unfortunately, their bootstrap script is broken, so I can't do those anymore.09:04
SpecGentoo is fun, you learn a lot :)09:04
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_azraelSpikeb: I did that once. Then I deleted it b/c I want a package manager.09:04
Seveasspikeb, UFS is quicker 09:04
SpecI haven't done LFS yet, is it harder than gentoo? I found gentoo easy to understand...09:04
Gisty^awayIs it possible for the apps you install with wine to have the /home/usrname/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/usrname/Start Menu links added and working automatically to the gnome menu?09:05
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Seveasbut let's kill the offtopic talk a bit09:05
spikebhehe09:05
Seveas#ubuntu-offtopic is for that09:05
TobberothDon't tell me I have to go to #gentoo to get help about compiling ;)09:05
Snellgrove'learn a lot' with a linux distro, generally means a lot of IRC, forum and frustration ^_^   i quite like the "just works" about Ubuntu09:05
JohnsonEamen09:05
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GoLoGo7800gt nvidia card problem - ubuntu 6.06lts - latest drivers installed using kernel sources - headers - build essentials etc... seemed to install fine. xorg.conf configured fine. ubuntu still looks choppy, freezes after a few minutes.09:05
baboIs there anyway to find out how large a file hierarchy is ? ... in other words, to find out how big the game/ directory and all of it's children are ?09:05
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SeveasGoLoGo, quit repeating please09:05
TobberothI don't know about that.. I've had and still have tons of problems with ubuntu09:05
spikeb_azrael: come to ubuntu-offtopic for a minute09:05
SnellgroveYeah, babo09:05
Snellgrovesudo apt-get install filelight09:05
gavagaiGoLoGo, seriously what is up man?09:05
gavagaiwe can read09:05
Snellgroveits a nice looking program too :D09:05
Specbabo: yes09:05
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linforcera friend of mine says with 3 diffeent cds the loading of the kernel (at install time) all stops at about 40%09:06
Seveasbabo, du -sh /path/to/folder09:06
GoLoGowell its been like 1 month now, that ive been trying to get help...09:06
Specbabo: in the command line, try something like: du -ckhs *09:06
GoLoGono one has helped at all...09:06
linforcercould it have to do with him using dualcore?09:06
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q0mwhat the ubuntu command to start up the GUI09:06
GoClickI have a 1GB file and I'd like to remove the first line of it, however it's too large to open in anything.09:06
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q0mwhat's*09:06
SnellgroveSpec / Seveas: filelight is a lot prettier than a command line though :P09:06
Tobberothq0m: It's gdm09:06
Snellgrovein fact, its awsome lol09:06
babook thanks ...09:06
gavagaiGoLoGo, what kind of file09:06
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gavagaierr GoClick what kind of file09:06
GoClickCSV09:06
SeveasGoClick, is it text?09:06
neutrinomassSnellgrove: Only it crashes on exit. Known bug ;)09:06
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atwerkhaving issues with getting wpa (tkip) to work.  installed network manager gnome, but no love. any links?09:06
q0mgdm?09:06
siriusnovahellp09:06
GrommetGoLoGo: I have same card but not using ubuntu yet, if you want pvmsg me I may be able to help anyway09:06
Snellgrovelol well... yeah but your exiting anyways :D09:06
siriusnovahelp me :(09:06
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atwerkusing orninoco gold card.09:07
gavagaiGoClick, did you try vim?09:07
SeveasGoClick, do you have 1gb diskspace left?09:07
siriusnovai have a harddrive with a ntfs partition, then an empty partition and then an ext3 partition09:07
rhyddinsiriusnova: whats the problem?09:07
GoClicki have 300GB left09:07
TobberothPlease help. I'm trying to compile MPlayer, but when I use ./configure in the folder it tells me my GCC version is bad.09:07
walkoverI downloaded the linux source code and i see it as a bz2 file in /usr/src . I am promted to enter the path to my linux source by an installation program. Which path do i enter?09:07
siriusnovais there any way i can "grow" the ext3 partition to use the empty partiion?09:07
Firezip_Hi can someone help me set up a printer on Ubuntu?09:07
q0mtobberoth: gdm?09:07
SeveasGoClick, tail -n -1 filename.csv > newfile.csv09:07
SnellgroveTobberoth:  does it want an older one or a newer one?09:07
Tobberothq0m: Yeah.09:07
Seveasand then reove the old one09:07
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Snellgroveits possible it wants 3.4 ?09:07
GoClickk09:07
q0mjust gdm?09:07
TobberothSnellgrove: It wants an older one I think, 3.x09:07
siriusnovathe ext3 partition is my ubuntu drive, the empty partition is my ex suse install09:07
TobberothYeah, just gdm09:07
Tobberothstarts gnome09:07
kafitzFirezip: i'll try09:08
Snellgroveas you can do EXPORT CC=3.4 or something cant you?09:08
siriusnovagparted doesn't work09:08
Snellgroveand then compile it, and it'll use 3.4 instead ...I THINK09:08
siriusnovaso anyone?09:08
steveklSomeone answer siriusnova, I am curious as well09:08
Firezip_Ok it's an HP Deskjet 362009:08
psycosehi all do you know guys a good stream to watch football match ? thanks09:08
rhyddinsiriusnova: why doesnt gparted work?09:08
Snellgrovesiriusnova:  yes you can, if they are on the same disk09:08
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Snellgrovesudo apt-get install gparted09:08
q0mty tobberoth09:08
siriusnovarhyddin - it wont allow me to grow the partition09:08
Firezip_I have checked "Detect LAN printers" because it is on another windows computer09:08
Snellgroveor gnome partition manager09:08
siriusnovagparted that is09:08
Snellgroveoh right :(09:08
walkoverI downloaded the linux source code and i see it as a bz2 file in /usr/src . I am promted to enter the path to my linux source by an installation program. Which path do i enter? Please help!09:08
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SpecSeveas: blootbot has a dependency on mysql-server: mysql-server (0 (null)), but it doesn't install it via apt-get?09:08
kafitzfirezip: is windows sharing that printer?09:08
TobberothSnellgrove: I don't really understand what you mean. it says 3.4 not found09:08
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Firezip_Yes09:09
Snellgroveinstall GCC-3.4 first ;)09:09
Seveaswalkover, remove that file and install the linux-source-2.6.15 package09:09
GoClickSeveas I ended up with a file that only has the first line in it.09:09
Snellgroveprobably...in the repositories09:09
lonegeekhow can i adjust mouse scroll speed?09:09
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Snellgrovebut maybe not :S09:09
TobberothWon't that mess upp my current GCC?09:09
walkoverinstall09:09
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Snellgrovedont think so09:09
SeveasSpec, I don't know anything about blootbot other than that it sucks09:09
Snellgroveboth can co=exist09:09
TobberothAllright, I'll try then09:09
gavagaiWhere does proftpd put its logs in ubuntu?  in my experience they go in /var/log.  they aren't there!09:09
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krazykitTobberoth: gcc versions are slotted, they can coexist09:09
GistybitWhen i installed Ubuntu, the system tray icons from wine were displayed in the system tray in the top gnome panel. I since accidentally deleted the top panel, and created it again adding what i wanted. How do i get the systemtray from wine displayed in the gnome top panel?09:09
SpecSeveas: aww, but ubotu works so ... 'well'...09:09
steveklIs it possible to have an ext3 partition that both windows and linux can read/write to and from?09:09
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neutrinomassHow should I request a firmware extractor to be packaged (its for the EasyUsbAdsl spec) ?09:09
babocan anyone tell me what this means exactly ?09:09
babo[root@india backup_script] # cat Fri_etc | grep named.conf09:09
baboBinary file (standard input) matches09:09
kafitzfirezip: and you've clicked add printer, network printer?09:09
Firezip_kafitz yes it is09:09
SeveasGistybit, add the "notification area" to the panel09:10
gavagaii get the xferlog but not the other logs09:10
GistybitSeveas: thx09:10
Specneutrinomass: I guess you could package it yourself and send it to revu?09:10
rhyddinholy crap - the forums r offline09:10
Specneutrinomass: or maybe ask in #ubuntu-motu09:10
Seveasbabo, that in your Fri_etc the text named.conf is present09:10
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SnellgroveYeah, been off for a little while now rhyddin :(09:10
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siriusnovaso can anyone help me with my partition woes?09:10
Snellgrovelucky I got my question answered just before they went offline lol09:10
Doatsiriusnova, yes i think if the ext3 is smaller than the empty partition09:11
Doatsiriusnova, then you can copy the ext3 to the start of the empty partition and then extend it to end09:11
Doatsiriusnova, i'm not 100% sure though09:11
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kafitzfirezip: so after going into printers you clicked 'detect lan printers', have you clicked the add printer yet?09:11
Firezip_yes09:11
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walkoverI've got the package already (linux-source-2.6.15) so where do i find it?09:11
TobberothI installed gcc 3.4, but it still says "not found"09:11
GistybitSeveas: i did, but it still shows in it's own window09:11
Firezip_ok then I click network printer09:11
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Firezip_then windows09:11
Firezip_Ubuntu can see the host09:11
GistybitSeveas: having restarted the wine application ofcourse (in fact all wine apps)09:11
kafitzfirezip: and under network click samba (smb)09:11
siriusnovaDoat - how?09:11
Specwalkingice: /usr/local/src probably09:11
neutrinomassSpec: I'm in the middle of rather stressing exams so I don't have to time to read up on packaging :( I'm afraid that asking in -motu will bring a "add it to the wishlist" response (I feel that it should be handled differently because it is of high importance, not just a whim of mine ;) )09:11
baboSeveas: not sure, I guess it should be ...09:11
SeveasGistybit, no idea then, I hardly ever use wine09:11
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walkoverSpec, was that for me?09:12
Specneutrinomass: I could package it for you, but I'm not entirely sure how to get my package "in"09:12
Specwalkover: it was indeed :p09:12
neutrinomassSpec: But I remember you were learning to package ;)09:12
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walkover;D thanks09:12
Speci know how to package, neuro_09:12
Specerr, neutrinomass09:12
Firezip_kafitz wha details do I put in?09:12
Specneutrinomass: http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/archive/09:12
GistybitSeveas: ok, thx for the "notification area" anyway.. i hadn't re-added it09:12
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TobberothDo I need to reboot for ./configure to notice my extra GCC version??09:12
kafitzfirezip: nothing is showing up on the drop down menu?09:12
SeveasTobberoth, no09:13
TobberothThen why won't it find it >_<09:13
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Firezip_kafitz yes it shows the windows computer name and then ask for logon details09:13
Aragorn_Guardianquit09:13
SpecTobberoth: you may have to specify an option to configure, do ./configure --help to see all available options09:13
neutrinomassSpec: http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net Do a CVS checkout of the firmware extractor and package it pleeeeeeease O:-)09:13
erichWhen gksu fails to pass the X11 authentication to the root account, what can be the cause?09:13
upa()()( [MP3 running wild -genghis khan RUNNING WILD- ] -IRcap-[3.8MB 128Kbps 44.1Khz] -[ 4m 13s ]  )()()09:13
TobberothNo Spec, it checks all versions of GCC09:13
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GrommetI guess he didn't want my help lol09:13
BassettsSpec, where/how did you learn to package09:13
TobberothIt only finds the 4.x09:13
GrommetI'm outta here :)09:13
SpecBassetts: reading lots and lots and lots of documentation09:14
kafitzfirezip: with the networking im not too savvy with the logon details part, try an account name you have on windows09:14
SpecBassetts: and bugging people in #ubuntu-motu09:14
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tr1gg3rBassetts: google it simple pkgs arent that tough09:14
SpecThink about having 901 people listening to mp3s with mp3 scripts....09:14
Firezip_kafitz the actual printer "name" isn't showing up09:14
Bassettsi will tr1gg3r09:15
SeveasSpec, it would give me lots of kicking fun09:15
tr1gg3r;)09:15
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_hibberthey all09:15
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_hibbertdoes anyone know a bit about CUPS permmissions?09:16
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grogoreohi09:16
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kafitzfirezip: try like HP-Deskjet-362009:16
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MyNewbiehello09:16
grogoreoI'm trying to get xgl working and I've tried a temporary measure of using an xsession xgl.desktop file to launch XGL, but though gnome loads up none of the compiz effects work. I have my files here http://pastebin.com/70488209:16
Seveas!xgl09:16
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:16
LiniXplease tell me "How To Dist-Upgrade From 5.10 with 6.06 CD?"09:16
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LiniXubuntuforum.org is down09:16
Specneutrinomass: you sure you want CVS?09:16
SeveasLiniX, desktop cd or alternative install cd?09:16
MyNewbiechoosing between kubuntu and ubuntu is pure taste or one of this is more user friendly ?09:17
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LiniXdesktop09:17
BerengalGreetings, I need help with installing ubuntu.09:17
_azraelMyNewbie: Taste09:17
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SeveasLiniX, in that case: you can't09:17
Specneutrinomass: and not the latest stable release?09:17
Firezip_Ok kafitz now I'm looking for the HP Deskjet 3620 driver but I don't see it09:17
Bad_DogHello girls . . .09:17
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MyNewbie:)09:17
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SeveasLiniX, try the update manager instead.09:17
BerengalThe linux kernel loads 40% then stops09:17
LiniXT-T09:17
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_absolution_how do you get transparent windows on Dapper??09:17
searaymancan ihave help installing expocity?09:17
Firezip_I see 3650 and 365809:17
BerengalI have an AMD X2 dualcore09:17
kafitzfirezip: i don't know how to help you much further, im a noob myself to linux09:17
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Firezip_oh09:17
grogoreo_absolution_, XGL and compiz09:17
LiniXyes Thank You09:17
MyNewbieI see KDE has a lot of apps, most of them started by a 'k'. is kde more supported than gnome?09:17
searaymancan i have help followign these directions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Expocity?highlight=%28expocity%2909:18
Firezip_well thanks for the help man09:18
_absolution_where do I get those?09:18
SeveasMyNewbie, makes little difference09:18
neutrinomassSpec: No releases have been ever made of their extractor. Only CVS ...09:18
searaymananyone know how to install expocity?09:18
Tobberothman, ubuntu is supposed to "just work". it's not working at all for me :/09:18
Seveas!info expocity09:18
neutrinomassSpec: Which hasn't been updated for a long time as well ...09:18
LiniX!info09:18
grogoreo_absolution_, look on ubuntuforums.org and there a lots of howto's on how to do it.09:18
neutrinomassSpec: It's GPL btw, so you're safe :)09:18
DavidJaqok, I need to update my BIOS. I've got Phoenix Bios 4.0 Release 6 version 4s4eb2x0.05a.0009.p08 with a 'SE440BX-2' motherboard... can someone help me find an update for my bios?09:18
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MyNewbieis gnome lighter than kde ?09:19
searaymancan ihave help with this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Expocity?highlight=%28expocity%2909:19
SeveasMyNewbie, quite09:19
MyNewbiereally?09:19
MyNewbiehumm09:19
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neutrinomass_absolution_: You might want to wait for a while, apparently the forums are down right now....09:19
searaymangrrr09:19
Seveas!tell _absolution_ about xgl09:19
searaymanany hepl with expocity09:19
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gavagaiMyNewbie, ask in a kde channel and get the opposite answer09:19
_hibbertHi I need help with a lexmark z3209:19
MyNewbiedoes kubuntu comes with more apps than ubuntu?09:19
Tobberothtoo many errors in the make.. damnit.09:19
Specneutrinomass: wheee :p09:19
Seveassearayman, quit repeating. If someone knows he'll answer09:19
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GoLoGodoes anyone know how to correctly configure the xorg.conf file to the latest drivers for a 7800gt - that may be the problem09:20
_azraelsearayman: Where are you getting stuck?09:20
searaymanSeveas:  sorry09:20
neutrinomassSpec: Anyway, I'd be nice if you did it. I really have to go now (4 papers in 2 days :( ). Thanks. Good night all.09:20
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BerengalI am completely new to linux and need help installing ubuntu on my AMD X2 dualcore. When starting the install, it says "Loading Linux Kernel" and loads 40% then stops09:20
searayman_azrael:  extracting the source afte ri downloaded it to my desktop09:20
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_azraelOK, are you in a terminal?09:20
BerengalI've tried 6.06 x64, 5.10 x64 and x8609:20
searayman_azrael: any ideas?09:21
Spec*spams !repeat*09:21
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Seveas/me kicks Spec09:22
gavagaiMyNewbie, i wouldn't worry about your choice09:22
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gavagaiMyNewbie, you can install both kde and gnome09:22
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_azraelsearayman: I need you to answer my question: Are you in a terminal?09:22
tloudencan anybody help me to restore kde settings (colors, panels, etc.)?09:22
[D-Tail] hey all, again :-)09:22
_hibbertwouldnt advise both desktop on one ssytem though09:22
gavagai_hibbert, why09:22
DavidJaqok, I need to update my BIOS. I've got Phoenix Bios 4.0 Release 6 version 4s4eb2x0.05a.0009.p08 with a 'SE440BX-2' motherboard... can someone help me find an update for my bios?09:22
searayman_azrael:  yes09:22
[D-Tail] I've got a question regarding Logitech MX510 mice and xorg... especially now, when the forums are down!09:23
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BerengalAnybody know how to install Ubuntu on an AMD X2 Dual-Core09:23
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_azraelAnd you're in the directory where the .tar.bz2 file is?09:23
erichArgh... so "gksu" works, "gksudo" doesn't (X11 refused by server), any idea?09:23
SeveasDavidJaq, why do you think repeating helps?09:23
_hibbertI've done it several times and permissions can get messed up09:23
watson540amen Seveas09:23
DavidJaqBecause new people have logged on who may be able to help me09:23
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watson540and DavidJaq , why dont you call your mobo manufacturer and get it from them?09:23
Seveasbollocks. Repeating every minutes is just annoying09:23
MyNewbiegavagai really? and can I choose which to use on boot? or not quite?09:23
_azraelsearayman: Are you in the directory with the .tar.bz2 file?09:23
johaHi all!09:23
watson540i dont think anyone in here can google better than the next person DavidJaq09:24
DavidJaqsimple concept... old people didn't have an answer for me... more people logged on, thus new people may be able to help me09:24
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gavagaiMyNewbie, doesn't even require rebooting, but yes09:24
_Mr_Denix_hey all09:24
searayman_azrael:  dont knw what u mean there09:24
watson540here's a concept, google09:24
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Seveaseeeeeeeeeeek it's gnomefreak09:24
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johaDoes somebody have experience with getting an original AirPort card to work with a WEP128-protected network?09:24
_azraelsearayman: Type pwd, tell me what it says09:24
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DavidJaqwatson540, why don't you try to be helpful rather than just spout useless stuff? Didn't it occur to you that I tried google and couldn't find anything?09:24
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watson540did you see my reply about contacting your mobo manufacturer DavidJaq ?09:25
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gnomefreaklol :09:25
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ackeHey guys, my service-admin gui aint letting me add new services. whats wrong with my admin application? is there a service manager that lets me manage the apps I want to start at boot up?09:25
_Mr_Denix_can someone please help me understand this synopsis by providing me with an example         /sbin/shutdown [-t sec]  [-arkhncfFHP]  time [warning-message] 09:25
_Mr_Denix_     thank you09:25
searayman_azrael: mike@mike-desktop:~$ tar xvfj expocity-2.6.2-1.tar.bz209:25
searaymantar: expocity-2.6.2-1.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory09:25
searaymantar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now09:25
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searaymantar: Error exit delayed from previous errors09:25
Seveasacke, try bum09:25
searaymanmike@mike-desktop:~$ pwd09:25
searayman/home/mike09:25
DavidJaqMy motherboard was made 7 years ago and the company who made my computer no longer produces my computer and their support is useless09:25
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Seveasok, who else thinks it's fun to mess in here?09:26
Flannelfiesty today09:26
gavagai_Mr_Denix_, shutdown -r now  = shutdown now09:26
Seveasspeak now09:26
watson540wow a 7 year old mobo sounds just *as* useless as the company who dies with it09:26
BerengalI am completely new to linux and need help installing ubuntu on my AMD X2 dualcore. When starting the install, it says "Loading Linux Kernel" and loads 40% then stops. I've tried 6,06 64, 5.10 64 and 5.10 x8609:26
_Mr_Denix_gavagai thank you09:26
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SeveasDavidJaq, if the company is dead chances are that there is no bios update09:26
SpecTrivia: does anyone know what a .deb is actually called?09:26
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gavagai_Mr_Denix_, you're welcome.  the -r is for restart actually.  -h is full shutdown.09:26
_azraelWow. His problem was just that he needed to cd into Desktop, where he'd actually downloaded the file to.09:26
sharpi can't load an album into rhythmbox09:26
SeveasSpec, #ubuntu-trivia for trivia09:26
gnomefreakSpec, its a binary file09:26
tloudenberengal: i hate to say it but try some other linux distros to see if it's a problem unique to ubuntu09:27
_Mr_Denix_gavagai instead of now how can write an atribute  for a specific time (i.e. shutdown in 60 s)09:27
Specbut that trivia lacks linux related trivia :-/09:27
SeveasSpec, true that09:27
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JohnsonEsnell, you still here?09:27
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SpecI think originally they were called potatoes09:27
BerengalVery well, I'll try some other... *sigh*09:27
robokophmmz is there an app with wich i can live view the world cup matches on my pc09:27
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linforcerman my friend is getting a really bad impression of ubuntu =(09:27
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gavagai_Mr_Denix_, in that exampple the [-t sec]  is where you can put the amount of time to WAIT before doing it, or you can put the exact actual time where it says time09:28
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linforcerThe install won't start, there's nothing about it in the faq, the forums are down and the channel ignores him.09:28
tloudenrobokop: do you know of a data source?09:28
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robokoptlouden: no do you know one ?09:28
Seveaslinforcer, installer not starting == not much chance at a solution09:28
DavidJaqI'm kind of stuck, then, because I can't boot from CD... I'm using a brand new DVD burner, my IDE cables are new, and my bios is set up so it should boot from CD before hard drive... someone told me that it means I need to update my bios09:28
PapagenoHow do I mount a hard disk connected by USB? It doesn't automount.09:28
linforcerSeveas: true09:28
tloudenrobokop: nope, but that seems the primary problem (and no related to ubuntu or linux at all)09:28
rigonattidoes anyone know how to get Screen Resolutions above 1280x1024 with ATI cards ?09:28
[D-Tail] anyone on the logitech MX510 problem?09:29
xonicanyone here use xchat?09:29
_Mr_Denix_gavagai thanks mate ! :)09:29
SeveasDavidJaq, did you burn the iso as iso?09:29
alagranexit09:29
pianoboy3333xonic, I do09:29
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gavagai_Mr_Denix_, you are welcome.  :)09:29
gnomefreakxonic, just for today09:29
_azraelPapageno: mount -t filesystem /dev/sda1  /mnt/mountpoint09:29
tloudenpapageno: typically something like mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdisk09:29
xonicpianoboy3333-]   how do you show users list?09:29
_azraelPapageno: unless you have a hard drive on /dev/sda, common on laptops. Then use /dev/sdb09:29
gnomefreakxonic, are you using xchat or xchat-gnome09:29
PapagenoSo sda1 is prolly the usb disk device?09:29
pianoboy3333xonic: good question09:30
xonicxchat09:30
_azraelyeah09:30
robokoptlouden: yes and that sucks09:30
DavidJaqthe computer won't boot from -any- bootable cd, not even officially pressed ones like my Breezy Live CD or my Windows XP cd.09:30
tloudenpapageno: yeah09:30
higen_Winkie: what does the libcompiz.so file ?09:30
rigonattidoes anyone know how to get Screen Resolutions above 1280x1024 with ATI cards ?09:30
_absolution_where do I put this line deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main????09:30
JohnsonEguyss, i'm running vmware-install.pl in the terminal and it's not.. doing anything09:30
SeveasDavidJaq, then get a new one 09:30
gnomefreakxonic, xchat-gnome i think you needed to pull the side of screen out some09:30
sharpi'm getting "GStreamer error: failed to change state" when i try to load an mp309:30
DavidJaqa new what?09:30
_azraelDavidJaq: That sounds like BIOS or a completely borked machine.09:30
gnomefreakxonic, xchat has the user list already there09:30
SeveasJohnsonE, you need to run it as root/via sudo09:30
buzzedno sound for quicktime09:30
buzzedmov09:30
JohnsonEok thanks09:30
xonicgnomefreak:  im using xchat regular09:30
buzzedany help?09:30
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xonicgnomefreak:  i don't see one, just the channels tree09:31
DavidJaqI know it sounds like BIOS, which is why I went onlin to try to find a bios update, couldn't find one so I came here thinking I could find help, but instead got told to google it09:31
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bthornton!amarok09:31
ubotumethinks amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/ - To install Amarok 1.4 on Ubuntu, see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php09:31
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[D-Tail] !logitech09:31
ubotuwell, logitech is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6547109:31
JohnsonEwhat's the command to run a script again? >_>09:31
[D-Tail] The forums are currently offline, ubotu09:31
gnomefreakxonic, on the right hand side there is a user list   what version of xchat?09:31
PapagenoHow do I get a list of filesystems for mount -t? It tells me FAT32 is unknown to it.09:31
SeveasJohnsonE, sudo /path/to/vmware-install/pl09:31
bthorntonAnybody know if the latest Amarok has MP3 support?  (or, better yet, gstreamer support?)09:31
tloudenjohnsonE: sh?09:31
_btPapageno, try vfat09:31
watson540well hrm, DavidJaq i was just suggesting google but id say if you cant find anything it doesnt exist09:32
_azraelbthorn: I know it has mp3...09:32
robokoptlouden: found a source (www.sopcast.com)09:32
watson540but seriously a 7 yr old mobo with new dvd burner and junk, hopw fast cana  7 yr old mobo be?! p3?09:32
xonicgnomefreak:  no right side uselist and version 2.6.109:32
samuHow do I use my USB mem stick in ubuntu?09:32
watson540i would save trouble and go drop 100 bux on a new asus09:32
DavidJaqpentium 3 600mhz. It's fast enough for WinXP09:32
Seveassamu, plug it in09:32
gnomefreakxonic, try pulling the right hand side out a bit09:32
samuand then?09:32
tloudensamu: plug it in, hope it automounts09:32
BerengalOkay, so I tried a Debian install I had lying around (3.0 v2), and it loaded the kernel in a jiffy09:32
DavidJaqThe problem is that I'm poor. I don't have money to buy a new computer09:33
xonicgnomefreak:  did just makes the screen bigger09:33
tloudensamu: try mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdisk09:33
DavidJaqeverything I have on my computer was bought for me09:33
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gnomefreakxonic, im on 2.4 atm but 2.6 is same thing09:33
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gnomefreakxonic, as far as i know there is no way to delete it09:33
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xonichmm09:33
xonicmaybe ill restart09:33
rigonattidoes anyone know how to get Screen Resolutions above 1280x1024 with ATI cards ?09:33
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xonicbrb gnomefreak09:33
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watson540DavidJaq: can you not boot from a usb flash drive? or possibly boot a linux rescue disk in your 3.5" drive to start a net install?09:34
tloudenI'm looking for help with KDE settings, can anybody help?09:34
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Flanneltlouden: #kubuntu09:34
watson540or if its still around, get winlinux lol, then use it to install ubuyntu09:34
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tloudenflannel: ah, right, good thought09:34
gnomefreakSeveas, you on xchat 2.6 atm?09:34
uXpgnomefreak:  restarting helps, i see it now09:34
BerengalI am completely new to linux and need help installing ubuntu on my AMD X2 dualcore. When starting the install, it says "Loading Linux Kernel" and loads 40% then stops. I've tried 6,06 64, 5.10 64 and 5.10 x86. I tried with a Debian install disk (3.0 v2) and it loaded the kernel just fine.09:35
JohnsonEit's telling me a previous version of vmware software was found?09:35
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Seveasgnomefreak, yes09:35
gnomefreakah i found it its the little dotted line09:35
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zenitBerengal: tried with acpi=off ?09:35
[0x90] hey people09:35
[0x90] i've discovered that... cedega sucks!09:35
uXpgnomefreak:  huh?09:36
gnomefreakSeveas, you have a little dotted line to the left of the user list right?09:36
Berengalzenit, okay, trying that...09:36
tim__how do you use the check out function in svn?09:36
gnomefreakuXp, xchat09:36
samuTheres no sda1 in dev09:36
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TobberothOk i need some serious help now, how do i make ./configure realise I have GCC 3.4 installed??09:36
Seveasgnomefreak, yes, that's the panel resize grip09:36
DavidJaqMy problem is actually that I want to uninstall Grub so I can uninstall Ubuntu so I can tinker a bit more... but the only way I know how to uninstall Grub is to boot up with the Windows XP cd and go into the recovery console and type 'fixmbr'09:36
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_azraeltim__: svn co svn://some.url.here09:36
uXpgnomefreak:  it shows the list now, musta just been a quick bug09:36
watson540[0x90] : cedega always worked for me fine (before i accidentally erased my archive of it) butif you have a cedega related question thats not the way to start out, thats called being a 'troll'09:36
gnomefreakSeveas, just found that out i think thats what he needed09:36
DavidJaqI don't have any floppy disks to try a floppy boot disk09:36
SeveasDavidJaq, windows boot floppys work too09:36
Seveasah09:36
uXpgnomefreak:  is there a way i can automatically connec to servers when i start xchat? If so, how?09:37
tim___azrael: on the banshee page it gives me a code to put into the terminal. it seems like it doesnt do anything. why?09:37
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gnomefreakuXp, do see the dotted line between the user list and the channel?09:37
gnomefreakuXp, yes its in edit09:37
JohnsonEwhy is vmware telling me i already have it installed when i don't :(09:37
uXpgnomefreak:  told ya, already got it, the first run was a quick bug09:37
_azraeltim__: Can you link me to this site?09:37
BerengalHey! It works! :09:37
Berengal:)09:37
gnomefreakuXp, on the server screen click edit09:37
BerengalAt least, the kernel loaded09:37
tim___azrael: http://banshee-project.org/Plugins09:37
StarseedUbuntu - It Just Works09:37
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gavagai...usually09:37
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_azraeltim__: OK, the command looks good, did text scroll across the screen or what?09:38
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Starseedgnomefreak: if you use gaim, the IRC on there is kinda an interesting take on IRC clients09:38
cr3can someone let me know what their DISPLAY environment variable looks like?09:38
JohnsonEok this is all confusing me, brb restarting.09:38
watson540hrm, am i using gui chat since i run irssi iinside of a konsole? :P09:38
tim___azrael: i would like to install the itms plugin but when i put the code into the terminal it says checked out revision 16209:38
uXpgnomefreak:  don't see an edit09:38
gnomefreakStarseed, no thank you ill stick with my irssi09:38
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gnomefreakuXp, on the sever page  click on x-chat than sever list09:39
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Starseedgnomefreak: ohh, with a nick like gnomefreak I though that'd be a contridiction for you, hah09:39
gavagaiirssi, word09:39
_azraeltim__: That's what it's supposed to do.09:39
uXpgnomefreak:  then09:39
gnomefreaks/sever/server09:39
_azraeltim__: cd into the directory it just made09:39
gnomefreakuXp, click on edit09:39
tim___azrael: so i just type it in then what? how do i install it09:39
_azraelThen run ./configure09:39
bthornton!mp309:39
ubotumethinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:39
uXpgnomefreak:  k09:39
Starseedbut yah, irssi is perfect .. anything more than 2 channel though it gets cumbersome09:39
gnomefreakuXp, assuming that its on the server you want to connect to09:39
_azraeltim__: You're downloading source files. You have to compile and install them.09:39
uXpgnomefreak:  k now09:39
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tim___azrael: can you walk me through it09:39
gnomefreakuXp, you will see it in there somewhere it will say automatilly09:39
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gnomefreakconnect09:40
TobberothI need advanced help with VLC, probably an error with graphics driver or output layer09:40
_azraeltim__: Sure, let's not clog up the channell, I'll /msg you09:40
gnomefreakuXp, lets move this to #ubuntu-offtopic please09:40
watson540why Starseed ?? i am in about 10 channels atm and no bothers09:40
bthorntonAnyone have MP3 support working in AmaroK (1.3 or 1.4) on Dapper?09:40
gavagai6 channels here09:40
uXpgnomefreak:  ok um where09:40
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watson540im spread across 3 networks too, heh09:40
tim__msg _azrael09:40
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Starseeduhh, yah lets see.. what was window 8 again .. #python .. no #c ... ugghh09:40
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amortvigilhelp i get this error loads of times how to fiks it??: /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1: error: unexpected character `\37', expected keyword - e.g. `style'09:41
Starseedthere are certain things where a gui enhances usability09:41
mad_phoenixhas anybody seen this message before? ./etc/rcS.d/S40ifrename: line 12: /sbin/ifrename: No such file or directory09:41
watson540yeah but how hard is it to type alt-8 to find out?09:41
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gavagaiStarseed, how does the gui help with that?  i can scroll through 8 windows in one second by slightly moving my pinky09:41
Seveasmad_phoenix, that means your system is bodged - sudo dpkg -P ifrename09:41
Starseedwatson540: more difficult than glancing at a #name written on a tab or a sidebar09:41
void^just order the windows properly and keep that order09:42
StarseedIt's all a matter of opinion though ..  I like to use irssi myself , I'm just making a point09:42
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watson540hrm, i dunno cause all my windows stay in the same place as i set them to be so i kinda have evrything memorized09:42
FlannelStarseed: when you have the same channels on the same numbers, you get used to it rather quickly.09:42
mad_phoenixSeveas: what will that do?09:42
gavagaiif you have irssi it runs 24/7 in your screen session and you remember whats in 8 because it never changes.  :)09:42
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Seveasmad_phoenix, purge the ifrename package, which is outdated09:42
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funkmasterhey ppl :D09:43
funkmasterdid someone use flumotion in ubuntu?09:43
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funkmasteri'm having some trouble with it09:43
watson540or just do a /window list and put it where you can see it, heh09:43
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JohnsonEYOU GUYS! vmware is STILL telling me it has detected a previous verion when THERE IS NO PREVIOUS VERSION :(09:43
MyNewbiehow many partitions should I newbie create? /, /home and /swap ?09:43
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ackeGuys, I have ati mobility radeon X1400 and the drivers that I have installed supports :  * ATI Radeon 9500, 9550, 9600, 9700, 9800, X300, X400, X600 (R3xx) so my card is not supported right?!09:44
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SeveasJohnsonE, DROP THE CAPS PLEASE09:44
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StarseedMyNewbie: easiest is 1 for / , and 1 for swap (about 256 megs)09:44
JohnsonEsorry.09:44
funkmasterMyNewbie: yep that should be neough for now..09:44
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lonegeekcan i change partition type from ntfs to something more linux compatible without losing dat09:44
gnomefreakJohnsonE, clear ubuntus cache maybe09:44
gavagaiMyNewbie, sounds good09:44
JohnsonEhow?09:44
SpecLet's pretend I have a "secring.gpg" file from another machine, how do I import my secret key into gpg?09:44
SeveasSpec, gpg --import secring.gpg09:44
funkmasterlonegeek: as far asi know: no09:44
Flannellonegeek: no, youll have to copy data, reformat, copy back, or whatever.09:44
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SpecSeveas: wow, easy.09:45
schloob_has anyone ever had a problem with aterm displaying special characters wrong? (like the borders in midnight commander)09:45
MyNewbiethe /home is where my docs, videos and mp3 goes right? so it makes it easier to reinstall ubuntu without loosing anything right ?09:45
lonegeekFlannel, funkmaster,  in windows you can upgrade from fat32 to ntfs09:45
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SeveasSpec, yeah, it even works with pgp keyrings from the commercial pgp09:45
StarseedMyNewbie: yah, true09:45
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lonegeekwell hmm i might have enough space to like slowy move it all over09:45
walkoverWhy is there not a kernel-tree for linux 2.6.15 in the archives? I can only find it for 2.4.2309:45
MyNewbiegreat :)09:45
bastard79hi all, anyones got repo for BMPx in dapper ?09:45
funkmasterloneggek: wow really? had no idea, but good to know :)09:45
JohnsonErunning the vmware uninstall tells me there's nothing installed09:45
SurfnKidguys where can the extension of a file be changed to start with RealPlayer instead of xfmedia09:45
amortvigilhelp i get this error loads of times how to fiks it??: /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1: error: unexpected character `\37', expected keyword - e.g. `style'09:45
Seveaswalkover, linux-source-2.6.1509:45
StarseedMyNewbie: well, you can put things anywhere you want .. but most app configs install on your /home09:45
DavidJaqwithout a floppy disk or capability of booting from a CD, is there any way for me to uninstall Grub? I dual boot with WinXP and Ubuntu Dapper and I want to go back to just having WinXP.09:45
walkoverok so its the same thing09:46
amortvigilhow can i find a valid gtkrc ?09:46
thomasMDavidJaq usb drive?09:46
DavidJaqI don't have a usb drive I can use09:46
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someothernickon intel d 805 would it be better to run 686?09:46
SeveasDavidJaq, if xp still works, you can run fdisk /mbr from within xp09:46
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gavagaihow can i check size of my swap partition from the terminal?09:46
_azraelDavidJaq: Would making GRUB invisible be good enough?09:46
Seveasgavagai, cat /proc/swaps09:46
gavagaiSeveas, thanky09:47
funkmasteranyone expereince with flumotion in ubuntu?09:47
SpecSeveas: wouldn't xp's "fixboot" also accomplish the same task?09:47
_azraelDavidJaq: You can set the default timeout to 0, and it'll flash on the screen for just an instant.09:47
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SeveasSpec, could be09:47
gavagaiSeveas, ok and roughly how do you translate that size to MB?  is that blocks or something weird?09:47
zOapI can't install libxine-extracodecs on dapper. I'm using both multiverse and universe sources... It says it's obsolote. Anyone know anything about this?09:47
DavidJaqWould making it 'invisible' make it so I can get rid of Ubuntu?09:48
Seveasgavagai, divide 'size' by 102409:48
gavagaiSeveas, thanks, rockin'.09:48
gnomefreakzOap, make sure its not backports repo that you have enabled instead of the universe and multiverse09:48
zOapgnomefreak, hows that? what should it say then?09:49
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JohnsonEi have removed every trace of vmware that i can find from my system and it still says there is a previous version :(09:49
gnomefreakzOap, the backports repo will say backports in it you dont want that one you want the ones that end in universe and just add multiverse to the end09:49
steveklI done ran out of empty jewel cases09:49
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roostishawwhat settings are not saved in my home folder?09:49
SeveasJohnsonE, removed kernel modules?09:49
gnomefreakubotu tell zOap about multiverse09:49
gavagairoostishaw, lots of systemwide settings are in /etc09:49
Tomcat_JohnsonE: Then you didn't remove every trace... or it's still in memory. :D09:49
zOapgnomefreak, thanks man :)09:49
JohnsonEseveas: tell me how to check and i'll look09:49
DavidJaqStevekl, do you have printer paper? You can make paper CD cases. It's easy09:49
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Mewshican someone help me create an irc server?09:50
gnomefreakzOap, that link in the pm will show you what your list should look like09:50
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JohnsonEtomcat: i only ever installed vmware-player though, and i uninstalled that and rebooted09:50
SpecI'm looking for a pre-packaged-deb of a one-c-file script to look at the Makefile, any suggestions?09:50
steveklDavidJaq: hey that's a good idea09:50
DavidJaqSeveas, how do I run 'fdisk /mbr' from within windowx xp?09:50
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Mewshimy god, windows is so hard to use!09:50
DavidJaqstevekl, I'll PM you with the instructions09:50
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roostishawhow do i get a script to run at shutdown?09:51
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gnomefreakDavidJaq, open up a dos terminal and type it in09:51
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Seveasroostishaw, symlink it in rc0.d09:51
_absolution_how do you get the KDE desktop??09:51
gnomefreak_absolution_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:51
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roostishawSeveas, ...how do i do that?  :D09:51
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affluxgn809:52
Seveasroostishaw, sudo ln -s /path/to/script /etc/rc0.d/S99yourscript.sh09:52
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roostishawSeveas, do i leave the S99?09:52
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Seveasroostishaw, yes, that determines the order09:53
pianoboy3333Does anyone have any ideas for hard drive recovery here? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19463209:53
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JohnsonE!logitech09:53
ubotulogitech is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6547109:53
dude0552is there any way 2 setup an easy switch between desktop managers, like gnome and kde and xfce in ubuntu?09:53
ackeSeveas bum lets me admin existing services. but not add new. So how do i do to add new services?09:53
gallagHELP-- My screen only supports 640x480 after changing the video card!!!09:53
Seveasgallag, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:54
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gallagSeveas: Thanks, i'll do that09:54
johnm1019does the ubuntu installer recognize the silicon image SATA controller chips and its raid arrays?09:54
DavidJaqgnomefreak, a dos terminal or cmd?09:55
gnomefreakcmd09:55
gnomefreakDavidJaq, pretty much same thing09:55
SpecAnyone know of a single-c-file debian package?09:55
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dude0552is there any way 2 setup an easy switch between desktop managers, like gnome and kde and xfce in ubuntu?09:55
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gnomefreakbrb installing things09:55
steveklDOes the dapper desktop install enable cleartype-like fonts by default?09:55
tr1gg3rjohnm1019: linux wont recognize any softraids"09:55
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DavidJaqI go to run type 'cmd' and hit enter. in the command prompt I type 'fdisk /mbr' and it tells me fdisk is not recognized as a command09:56
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gallagSeveas:  When it asks me to choose autodectect, what counts as yes?09:56
johnm1019tr1gg3r, i thought the silicon image chips (3112 for ex) used on the Asus a7n8x board was hardware raid chip..... no?09:56
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tr1gg3rjohnm1019: the chip is hardware, but the driver does all of the raid calcs, so basically its done in software09:57
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zitchDavidJaq: Does "format /mbr" do anything?09:57
rigonattiDoes anyone know how to use resolutions above 1280x1024 with ATI CARDS?09:57
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tr1gg3rjohnm1019: it should recognize the chipsets and connected disks, but it will not see them as raids arrays09:57
kasukoIs it possible to make a usr in command line09:57
mahognyok. I got a crashing GCC in ubuntu, from the vanilla installation. is this normal?09:57
johnm1019tr1gg3r, ohhh ok -- this is a specific question -- but do you know of any consumer boards (or less expensive server boards) that come with real hardware RAID support built in?09:57
_jpierreGuys I have problem installing flashplugin on dapper09:57
farousrigonatti: just edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file09:58
ackerigonatti, i want to know also.. im haveing the same issue. but i dont even have 1200x1024..09:58
tr1gg3rkasuko: man adduser, man useradd09:58
Bassettswhats soom cool geeky things i can do in ubuntu to pass time?09:58
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Bassettssome*09:58
kasukothanks09:58
farous!resolutions09:58
ubotufarous: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:58
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farous!resolution09:58
ubotumethinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:58
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farous^   ^09:58
_absolution_I'm installing the KDE desktop.....will it erase everything?09:58
tr1gg3rjohnm1019: the 3ware boards are known to work in hardware, but are quite expensive09:58
DavidJaqzitch: Tells me 'invalid parameter - /mbr'09:58
iskywalker_hi! i have a problem with my usb mouse09:58
johnm1019tr1gg3r, ok thanks! i'll look those up -- thats a good start at least -- thanks09:58
iskywalker_it doesnt recognize09:58
_absolution_or will I have the choice on the session login screen?09:59
dude0552is there any way 2 setup an easy switch between desktop managers, like gnome and kde and xfce in ubuntu?09:59
tr1gg3rjohnm1019: linux kernel raid is quite good, i would personally use that09:59
rigonattiubotu ....i tryed ...but still the 1280 as maximum resolution09:59
uboturigonatti: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:59
Bassetts_absolution_: no its wont09:59
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johnm1019tr1gg3r, the software raid in linux?09:59
kasukoexit09:59
tr1gg3ryes09:59
Bassetts_absolution_: you can choose gnome or kde at login09:59
johnm1019tr1gg3r, do those require LVM style setups?09:59
_absolution_ok thanks09:59
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_jpierreGuys I have problem installing flashplugin on dapper. It gets to setting up flashplugin-nonfree and it doesn't continue09:59
_jpierreany tips!???09:59
tr1gg3rjohnm1019: they dont require u to use lvm, but im not sure what u mean by lvm style10:00
rigonatti_jpierre:: tryed the MAcromedia website ?10:00
gavagaihow do i use wget to download an *entire* website?10:00
_jpierrerigonatti, What about the Macromedia website10:00
_absolution_why is the ubuntuforums.org site down??10:00
_absolution_maintenance?10:00
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Bassetts_absolution_: working for me10:00
_jpierrerigonatti, I cannot access the macromedia website10:01
_absolution_oh it's back up?10:01
amortvigilhow to install gtk2.8.0?10:01
tr1gg3rgavagai: man wget10:01
johnm1019well, and i still dont fully understand what LVM is for, when setting up ubuntu for example i can setup the exact same partition structure on a given drive AND i can use lvm or not --10:01
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babodarn, where are the zone bind files usually kept ?10:01
farous_jpierre: flashplugin download your plugin from macromedia sit and install it for you. so if there are site problems wait till they are fixed10:01
_jpierrefarous, Thanks for the tip mate10:02
farous:)10:02
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roostishawSeveas, could you send me that command again? (to run a script at shutdown i mean)10:02
tr1gg3rjohnm1019: lvm will let u tell linux to see 2+ disks as 1 disk, and u can a disk to this at any time without reformating10:02
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farousroostishaw: sudo halt10:02
tr1gg3rjohnm1019: err that should read ... and u can add a disk ...10:03
iskywalker_somebody can help me with my usb mouse problem?10:03
JohnsonEi uninstalled VMware player through the add/remove programs tool. Where else could a trace of it be hiding that's preventing me from installing the server?10:03
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zOapgnomefreak, thanks for the help with the nonfree codecs. worked very well. thanks again :)10:03
crashzoriskywalker_, is you're kernel suporting usb ?10:03
DavidJaqso.. since my windows xp has no fdisk command and I have no way of booting from anything, is there any way to completely uninstall Ubuntu and make Grub non-bothersome so I can just go back to my Windows XP setup?10:03
johnm1019tr1gg3r, gotcha -- so it adds raid 0 support as well as flexibility -- makes sense10:04
iskywalker_well i didnt compile it, it has hotplug at least10:04
gnomefreakzOap, yw10:04
iskywalker_well i unplug or plg the mouse it say something10:04
johnm1019tr1gg3r, /me is looking ta these 3ware cards now -- yes they look nice - -might be worth the money for the peace of mind :-\10:04
crashzoriskywalker_, just a "fresh" ubuntu install ?10:04
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iskywalker_no10:04
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tr1gg3rjohnm1019: lvm and raid are different and can be used togther and seperately10:04
Specjohnm1019: 3ware?10:04
crashzoriskywalker_, is the kernel the kernel you got whit ubuntu or did you build you're own ?10:05
iskywalker_i tried to upgrade my breezy to dapper, but i break the porcess, and know nothing works... i got the x to work but without mouse10:05
johnm1019Spec, yes10:05
JohnsonEi uninstalled VMware player through the add/remove programs tool. Where else could a trace of it be hiding that's preventing me from installing the server?10:05
crashzoriskywalker_, restart the update10:05
iskywalker_it is the ubuntu one10:05
johnm1019Spec, newegg for 3ware10:05
iskywalker_crashzor: how??? i dont have an X10:05
roostishawSeveas, could you send me that command again? (to run a script at shutdown i mean)10:05
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DavidJaqiskywalker_: I had that same problem. you have to go into the command prompt and use a command to do the upgrade. I can't remember the command, though10:06
crashzoriskywalker login on ctrl f1 yp sudo apt-get install -f10:06
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crashzorit will probley give a sugetion how to resume atleast it did whit my update ;)10:06
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crashzorfrom x its ctrl + alt + f110:06
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iskywalker_crashzor:  i already run aptitude, and the command you told me rturns saying it is all updated10:07
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crashzordid you have a a dapper sources.list ?10:07
iskywalker_yes10:07
JohnsonEi uninstalled VMware player through the add/remove programs tool. Where else could a trace of it be hiding that's preventing me from installing the server?10:07
iskywalker_i think so10:07
_btsudo vmware-uninstall.pl10:08
_bttry tgat10:08
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crashzoruuh let me think can you give more info on what mouse it is ?10:08
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roostishawanyone, how do i run a script at shutdown?10:09
JohnsonE_bt: didn't work10:09
zenitJohnsonE: maybe there are some configuration files left, apt-get --purge remove <package> might help10:09
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funkmasterany1 every used flumotion? i don't know the username and password ubuntu used to install it..10:09
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JohnsonEzenit: invalid operation10:09
crashzoriskywalker_, what mouse typ etc ?10:10
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rolersome of the font characters in my gnome-terminal are squares instead of the appropriate symbol... I know it's not my font... How can I fix this?10:10
iskywalker_crashzor: an usb mouse10:10
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iskywalker_it worked before10:10
jatilqhello10:11
crashzoriskywalker_, realy strang can find out what is wrong10:11
JohnsonEdo i need to remove xserver-xorg-driver-vmware too?10:11
NakkelSorry fot the way OT question, but does anyone recognise the laptop on this picture: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060608/060608_spreadsheets_hmed_7p.widec.jpg10:11
_Mr__Denix_anyone knows how can I hide my IP for browsing ? i've googled it but had no luck at all10:11
roostishawanyone, how do i run a script at shutdown?10:11
DavidJaqwithout the ability to boot from anything, does anyone know how I can uninstall grub and ubuntu?10:11
iskywalker_what modules must be loaded for hotplug knows that an usb mouse is a input mouse?10:11
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Dial_toneroler try changing the TERM setting and/or the font then changing it back10:11
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rigonattiDoes anyone know how to use resolutions above 1280x1024 with ATI CARDS? The HowToFixVideo Didnt work to me :(10:12
kevin1I am attempting to use adesklets.. They are appearing behind my desktop because I see them when I logout... How can I bring them forward?10:12
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zenitroostishaw: I guess you could make a link to the script in /etc/rc0.d10:12
ulisselo, people!10:12
crashzoriskywalker_, don't know what wrong i had no mouse trobbel my self so i realy never worked it out how it works because it works ;)10:12
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roostishawzenit, what is the command to do that?10:12
ulissesomeone know how can I assign statically an IRQ address to one device?10:13
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gnomefreakroostishaw, seveas gave you that command already10:13
iskywalker_crashzor: yes... i had no problems also, i have even an gentoo working but ubuntu got my weak side...10:13
rigonattiDoes anyone know how to use resolutions above 1280x1024 with ATI CARDS?10:13
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crashzoriskywalker_, user the update wented oke there is a new kernel installed etc10:14
rolerDial_tone, is linux a good one?10:14
roostishawgnomefreak, you're right. i accidently closed the window. could i ahve it again please?10:14
zenitroostishaw: I would suggest to take a look here: http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Runlevels_introduction10:14
davvykhey is there anyone in here who can take a bit of time to pm me about a 1st install of ubuntu10:14
Dial_tonerigonatti sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:14
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gnomefreakroostishaw, i dont have it off hand xchat doesnt scroll up that far that site that zenit gave you should help10:15
Dial_toneis linux a good what?10:15
zenitJohnsonE: it probably won't hurt to remove the vmware xorg driver.10:15
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gnomefreakroostishaw, Seveas is back anyway10:15
roostishawSeveas, could you send me that command again? (to run a script at shutdown i mean)10:15
zenitJohnsonE: if it still doesn't help you could just run a simple `find / -iname '*vmware*'` and look for any remains10:15
davvykhey is there anyone in here who can take a bit of time to talk to me about ubuntu. im looking to install it but would appriciate a chat with a linux user first10:16
gnomefreakok brb switching pcs again ;)10:16
crashzordavvyk, check you're pm plz10:16
kevin1I am attempting to use adesklets.. They are appearing behind my desktop because I see them when I logout... How can I bring them forward?10:16
Dial_tonedavvyk, there's 900 people in here. just talk10:16
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crashzorDial_tone, dat a othere way to look at it ;)10:16
chrisjwcan anyone help me!!10:16
crashzorchrisjw,  no we can't so just ask you're qeustion and we wil ingore you totaly.10:17
Dial_tonelol10:17
chrisjw=/10:17
crashzorchrisjw, to put it simpeler just ask you're qeustion ;)10:17
chrisjwok10:18
chrisjwi uninstalled ubuntu and it screwed GRUB up10:18
chrisjwnow i can't access my winxp partition10:18
DavidJaqwithout the ability to boot from anything, does anyone know how I can uninstall grub and ubuntu?10:18
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BerengalI just installed the latest Ubuntu on my Sata disk, where I also have a windows install. When booting from the sata disk, windows starts. When booting from my ide disk, grub starts letting me choose between windows and ubuntu, but neither work10:18
BerengalI get a disk read error on both10:18
DavidJaqchrisjw: put your winxp disk in and go to the recovery console when it boots up and type 'fixmbr'10:18
Dial_tonechrisjw, boot the xp disk and repair the boot record10:18
chrisjwtried that10:19
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chrisjwit says i have an admin passowrd10:19
davvykhey is there anyone in here who can take a bit of time to talk to me about ubuntu. im looking to install it but would appriciate a chat with a linux user first i have turned on my om now10:19
chrisjwbut i don't10:19
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davvykpm*10:19
DavidJaqthen just hit return10:19
_Mr__Denix_can anyone please help ? root@denix:/home/denix/Desktop# apt-get install fake-1.1.10.tar.gz10:19
_Mr__Denix_Reading package lists... Done10:19
_Mr__Denix_Building dependency tree... Done10:19
_Mr__Denix_E: Couldn't find package fake-1.1.10.tar.gz10:19
_Mr__Denix_root@denix:/home/denix/Desktop#10:19
zenitchrisjw: you surely do. The password should have been set during install.10:19
chrisjwi did10:19
gnomefreakok back where im comfortable ;)10:19
gnomefreak_Mr__Denix_: dont paste in here10:19
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chrisjwi didn't set any password10:19
_Mr__Denix_gnomefreak srry10:19
roostishawSeveas, could you send me that command again? (to run a script at shutdown i mean)10:19
iskywalker_ok solved10:20
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iskywalker_modprobe usbmouse mousedev10:20
DavidJaqchrisjw, there are tools you can get to reset your password using a type of live cd10:20
Dial_toneyou have to have an xp password10:20
gnomefreakroostishaw: read the page zenit gave you Seveas may be busy10:20
TassaDarKPLEASE, I have a Sound Blaste Extigy, it works well in ubuntu but it only uses 2 (front right & left) of my 5.1 speakers EVEN when a watch a dvd movie in dolby surround. any of you can help me with this?10:20
Dial_toneit doesn't allow you to not set one10:20
BerengalI just installed the latest Ubuntu on my Sata disk, where I also have a windows install. When booting from the sata disk, windows starts. When booting from my ide disk, grub starts letting me choose between windows and ubuntu, but neither work. I get a disk read error on both OSes10:20
zenitroostishaw: sudo ln -s /path/to/script /etc/rc0.d/S99yourscript.sh10:21
roostishawsgnomefreak, i dont understand that stuff, thats why im asking...10:21
chrisjwdo you know where i can find one?10:21
TassaDarKi don't know if a driver error or a misconfiguration10:21
fuffaloso to confirm, i can install off the live cd, right?10:21
roostishawzenit, thank you!10:21
howbagHello! Anyone know if it is possible to upgrade to dapper from breezy without reinstalling everything from cd? :o10:21
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zenitroostishaw: no problem, but if you get into trouble, read the page ;)10:21
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ron_ohowbag, it's not only possible it's the only way.10:21
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ron_ouse the upgrade manager.10:22
howbagoh,  but how? the update manager just points me to ubuntu.com10:22
ron_oupdate*10:22
gnomefreakhowbag: gksudo "update-manager"10:22
zenitchrisjw: this one works very well for resetting xp passwords, http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html10:22
howbagthanks10:22
ron_omaybe you have to update the update manager.10:22
ron_omake sure you've updated everything you can in Breezy.10:22
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gnomefreakhowbag: if that doesnt work you need to change your sources.list file to read dapper not breezy10:23
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chrisjwwell I don't even know what's happened exactly10:23
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howbagOk, Ill give it a try, thanks!10:23
ron_oread the wiki before upgrading.10:23
chrisjwwhere does GRUB install by default?10:23
ron_oit helps a lot!10:23
someothernickmbr10:23
DavidJaqmaster boot record10:23
chrisjwok10:23
Kiko3210Each HDD got it's own MBR?10:23
ron_oKiko0123, only the one that boots.10:24
gnomefreakhowbag: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && gksudo "update-manager"    theres one full command to make sure everything is up to date before you use the update-manager10:24
chrisjwso if I have windows XP installed on one hard drive and ubuntu on the other10:24
DavidJaqI need to uninstall grub and I have no way to boot from anything10:24
chrisjwgrub installs itself as the master boot record to load either XP or ubuntu?10:24
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BerengalI just installed the latest Ubuntu on my Sata disk, where I also have a windows install. When booting from the sata disk, windows starts. When booting from my ide disk, grub starts letting me choose between windows and ubuntu, but neither work. I get a disk read error on both OSes10:24
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chrisjwso deoes GRUB overwrite anything?10:25
DavidJaqit overwrites the mbr10:26
howbagthanks, gnomefreak! but where do I find the sources.list? (new to ubuntu :P)10:26
chrisjwwhat MBR does XP use?10:26
Mastastealthsources.list is in /etc/apt/10:26
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howbagthanks10:26
ron_othere is a #grub channel, but I don't know if anyone's there.10:26
r121I just installed the latest kubuntu and it overwrote the MBR without so much as informing me :(10:26
chrisjwtried it thanks10:26
chrisjwno one replies :(10:26
davvykwhats the best pvr package to run in linux??10:26
gnomefreakhowbag: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources/list"10:27
Mastastealthchris: XP uses the Windows Bootloader, it install that on the MBR (mbr is a sector on your hard drive that has the boot loader)10:27
Specpvr?10:27
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green_earzdavvyk: http://www.mythtv.org/10:27
DavidJaqSpec: software to utilize a tv tuner card10:27
chrisjwok so now10:27
chrisjwgrub installed over that10:27
Specdvr?10:27
chrisjwhow do i reinstall it?10:27
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chrisjwcan i do FDISK /MBR ?10:28
DavidJaqyou use fixmbr or fdisk /mbr10:28
Specchris_: yes....or boot into safe mode and type "fixboot"10:28
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chrisjwi can;t10:28
chrisjwi have no working mbr10:28
chrisjwso i can't boot anything without a disk10:28
DavidJaquse the win xp disc10:28
chrisjwif i could get into safe mode10:28
Specso boot off the windows rescue cd ... and type "fixboot"...10:28
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chrisjwmy problems would be sorted10:28
chrisjwcan't10:28
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ekphi10:28
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chrisjwcan't10:29
chrisjwi have no admin password10:29
ernzHello everyone10:29
Speceh, should go to a different channel for this anyways10:29
DavidJaqbut you need the password, Chrisjw, which means that you need to burn a copy of one of those password stripping live cds10:29
Specthis is #ubuntu10:29
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chrisjweven to do FDISK /MBR ??10:29
ernzI have a question non-ubuntu oriented, but still Linux, can anyone help?10:29
davvykdoes mythtv work with a terrestrial freeview tv card10:29
ekpwhere would I put source files for X11 mouse themes10:29
Specernz: try10:29
Mastastealth!ask10:29
ubotuFor information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:29
ekpor do I need to compile10:29
kevin1chrisjw fdisk /mbr is for win 98 and back10:29
Mastastealthekp: install gcursors10:30
ernzI am about to use Puppy Linux10:30
Mastastealthshould make things simpler10:30
chrisjwi thought that10:30
ernzBecause it is suited for older hardware10:30
ekpapt-get?10:30
kevin1chrisjw you need to use fixmbr through xp recovery cd10:30
Mastastealthyea10:30
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chrisjwbut some people told me10:30
ernzIs there a way of getting openoffice onto it?10:30
Specernz: i think puppylinux comes with oo.org10:30
walkoverI'm still struggeling to get my the configure script for a module to accept my kernel tree10:30
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walkoveris there a subfolder in my linux source that contains the tree?10:30
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ernzSpec - Cool.10:31
ernzI am especially fond of the .pup idea - Where the file is an installer10:31
ernzI think it would make a superb Ubuntu addidion10:31
ernzaddition*10:31
davincigood evening. i am currently installing ubuntu and have a question concerning installing a boot manager. can anyone help me?10:31
SpecI believe there is a project with Ubuntu to create the ultimate package-handler10:31
ekp<Mastastealth>: gcursors in apt repositories?10:31
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Mastastealthekp: should be, atleast in universe10:32
clineahow can I switch back to gdm?10:32
chrisjwkevin1, can you talk in PM?10:32
ekp Couldn't find package gcursors10:32
Mastastealthclinea: iirc, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm10:32
tr1gg3rdavinci: just ask someone will know10:32
kevin1chrisjw use this channel... I don't use pm for help10:32
chrisjwOK10:32
Mastastealthgcursor, w/o s at end?10:32
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chrisjwi need to fix my MBR10:33
SeanTaterin the dpkg reconfigure xorg stuff -- it asks what xorg modules I want -- some are on and some off -- should I enable them all, like it recommends, or leave them the way they are?10:33
fr77beI want to change my resolution to 1024 x 1080 in stead of 1024 x 768, but it is not in the list of screen resolutions, how can I change that?10:33
chrisjwor make GRUB load windows XP10:33
Mastastealthchris: does grub work at all?10:33
chrisjwbut i can't use the10:33
Dreamglideri get  problem with soundcard when i try to call my friends!10:33
chrisjwerm10:33
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chrisjwMastastealth it says error 2110:33
chrisjwthen halts10:33
clineaMastastealth: nice... thanks10:33
errpast98apt-get libwww-perl succeeds10:33
davinciok: i had debian with grup installed. ubuntu is on my "old" debian partition and i have windows xp installed. the grup is on the mbr, so how can I configure a boot manager which is able to boot both my new ubuntu and the windows?10:33
kevin1chrisjw do exactly as you were told... boot xp cd and use recovery console... since you don't know you're password you need a live cd to reset it10:33
ekp<Mastastealth>: is not in repositories.........I have all enabled10:33
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errpast98But I don't get https LWP support10:34
clineanow, what CLI is there to manage runlevels?  like in RHEL I would do chkconfig10:34
SeanTaterIs anyone willing to help me answer a question for reconfigureing xorg?10:34
ron_ofr77be, I wouldn't change it to something that isn't listed. In this case if you have to ask then you probably shouldn't do it.10:34
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ekp<Mastastealth>: I need a cc compliler which program would have it in it?10:34
chrisjwhow do i reset my XP password with a live cd?10:34
ron_omaybe your monitor doesn't support that particular screen resolution.10:34
chrisjwwhat live cd please?10:34
Mastastealthekp: build-essentials10:34
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gnomefreakSeanTater: what seems to be the issue?10:34
gnomefreakMastastealth: no s10:34
Bassettswhats some cool geeky things i can do in ubuntu to pass time?10:34
gnomefreakbuild-essential10:35
tr1gg3rdavinci: installing ubunti with the installer and letting set grub on mbr should be all u need, it should find xp for u and then ull have 2 entries in the grub dialog10:35
Mastastealthmy bad ^_^10:35
zenitchrisjw: did you change some drive settings (or removed any drives) before you got that grub error?10:35
chrisjwyes10:35
SeanTatergnomefreak: X won't start after trying to reconfigure, before that it gave it an extremely low res10:35
fr77beok, but the internet pages are outside my browser10:35
ron_oBassetts, <Format>?10:35
chrisjwi removed my linux drive10:35
Tybalthow do I turn my ubuntu server into the death star10:35
chrisjwi haven't got it anymore10:35
ekpno luck there either10:35
chrisjw:(10:35
gnomefreakSeanTater: videocard?10:35
fr77bein windows it is no problem10:35
Mastastealthfr77be: you can always edit ur xorg.conf file10:35
chrisjwi don't mind using the grub MBR10:35
Ayabarais amarok a good choice for working with my iPod nano?10:35
SeanTatergnomefreak: cheapie from nearby store10:35
chrisjwi just want to get to my windows partition10:35
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chrisjwwhich is on my hard drive10:35
MastastealthAyabara: worked for me :)10:35
davincitr1gg3r: are you sure, 'cause the installer is finished and wants me to reboot. i am worried that doing so will result in a system halt10:35
kevin1chrisjw <zenit> chrisjw: this one works very well for resetting xp passwords, http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html10:35
ekpI just checked apparently I did not have repositories enabled10:35
SeanTatergnomefreak: just changed it and reconfiguring for new one10:35
green_earzTybalt: make it in to a bittorent box10:35
Tybaltwhat package do I need10:36
fr77beoeps, that sounds to complicated, any more simpler idea10:36
gnomefreakSeanTater: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and use the vesa driver without framebuffer10:36
tr1gg3rdavinci: did u install grub with th installer?10:36
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[0x90] grub is so slow10:36
gnomefreakSeanTater: it will give you a low res but it should be gui atleasr10:36
SeanTatergnomefreak: okay -- I will -- so what do I do with the xorg modules it asks about?10:36
davinciwas there an option to do so?10:36
gnomefreaks/atleasr/atleast10:36
SeanTatergnomefreak: no gui10:36
crashzor[0x90] , how you mean slow ?10:36
[0x90] lilo is faster10:36
gnomefreakSeanTater: leave the modules alone10:36
SeanTatergnomefreak: the first reconfigure borked it10:37
[0x90] at least in my computer ^^10:37
SeanTatergnomefreak: okay - I will10:37
Ayabaraahh. but rythmbox works with the pod too :-D10:37
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SeanTatergnomefreak: thanks -- I get back to you in a minute10:37
crashzor[0x90] , just boot you're system 1 time a year ;)10:37
gnomefreakSeanTater: any questuions alone the way let me know10:37
Mastastealthfr77be: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will aso do the trick, jsut add the resolutions you want10:37
zenitchrisjw: please no pms. Take it in the channel.10:37
someothernickchris you could repartition your windows drive. install ubuntu to new partition. that should install grub again so you can get to windows partition.10:37
_absolution_can you run multiple terminals to download programs?10:37
crashzorand don't turn it off ;)10:37
[0x90] lol crashzor , my computer is beside my bed :p10:37
[0x90] i use grub in ubuntu cos i am a lazy son of a bitch10:37
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Mastastealth_absolution_: yes? :P10:37
chrisjwok10:37
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crashzorso mine server use to be next to me i did't care ;)10:37
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crashzori can stand noice pride while if i'm gowing to sleep10:38
gnomefreakubotu tell [0x90]  -about language10:38
chrisjwzenit - can i not just modify grub some how?10:38
[0x90] gnomefreak, i am an anarchist10:38
_absolution_where can I download nvu?10:38
chrisjwit worked fine until the linux drive went10:38
[0x90] ubotu tell gnomefreak about anarchy10:38
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tr1gg3rdavinci: if no option it should have at least told u what it was doing and one of the things would be install grub, u sound like ur using the livecd installer, which ive never used10:38
gnomefreak[0x90] : watch your step10:38
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[0x90] ubotu tell gnomefreak about freedom of speech10:38
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zenitchrisjw: Yes, you could boot from a livecd and fix it there.10:38
[0x90] :(10:38
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Mastastealthabsokution: sudo apt-get install nvu10:38
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[0x90] hey10:39
ekp<Mastastealth>: I rechecked apt ........and no gcursor package or build-essentials10:39
[0x90] what did i do?10:39
davincitr1gg3r: yes that is correct, i used the live cd and then installed.10:39
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chrisjwi don't know how to do that10:39
chrisjwcan you explain how?10:39
gnomefreak[0x90] : i told you to watch it now play by rules or leave10:39
davinciso can i go to a terminal an install grup (or lilo) from there=10:39
davinci?10:39
tr1gg3rdavinci: grub should be installed10:39
Hypoglybeticomg10:39
Hypoglybeticubuntu is the worst OS Ever10:39
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DavidJaqI need to fix my mbr so I can rid myself of grub, but I have no way to boot from CD, floppy, or usb10:39
xpc!hu10:39
ubotuHa magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu10:39
Hypoglybeticit can configure my wireless card automaticly, but right clicking doesn't work?!10:39
fr77beI have no idea what you mean with  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" is it a program?10:39
xpc!hu10:39
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xpchi10:39
[0x90] Hypoglybetic, ubuntu is not an os10:39
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Hypoglybeticwtf is it?10:40
Mastastealthekp: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/gnome/gcursor10:40
tr1gg3rDavidJaq: just overwrite the mbr with what u want there10:40
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Mastastealthand its build-essential, no s10:40
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Mastastealthalso, make sure you apt-get update if you fixed your sources10:40
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MastastealthHypoglybetic: your master10:40
Hypoglybeticlol10:40
DreamgliderUbuntu + Audigy2 soundcard = angry /me10:40
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Hypoglybetici think i'll just go back to XP Pro . .. after i get my valdi key for $10 ..w00t..10:41
davincitr1gg3r: ok it is installed, so you recommend to reboot?10:41
DavidJaqtr1gg3r, what are you talking about? How am I supposed to do that?10:41
Mastastealthfr77be: its a command you put into the terminal (programs -> accessories -> terminal)10:41
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Mastastealthhave fun Hypo ^_^10:41
HypoglybeticDoes anyone know of a Vista Chat room? :o10:41
chrisjwzenit, what live cd can i use?10:41
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MastastealthDreamL wuts up?10:41
pookeyhey all. the ubuntu  powerPC iso wn't boot on my laptop, I press 'shift-c' during boot, but it just sits showing the apple logo and hte progrss circular thingy.... any ideas?10:41
jahshuais this the channel for dapper ?10:41
crimsun_jahshua: yes10:41
fr77beok, thanks I will try10:42
funkmastersomeone knows flumotion?10:42
walkoverwhat could be wrong when the program that needs my kernel-tree says that the kernel headers are present but the source code i incomplete or missing?10:42
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zenitchrisjw: you could use the one for dapper? Anyway, if you really want grub back you could follow some of the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2411310:42
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frankeneed help with hasciicam and xawtv, can anyone help ?10:42
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jahshuacrimsun_ thanks, do you know can i upgrade to Dapper from Ubuntu 5.10?10:42
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ekpfound it thanks10:42
plophi10:42
rigonattiCan anyone help me to set my ATI Card to 1600x1200 ?10:42
udodoes anyone know what is this mean [controller.o]  Error 1?10:42
zenitchrisjw: But I see no point in having grub since you got rid of the nice ubuntu install :/10:43
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Mastastealth!xorg.conf10:43
ubotuMastastealth: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:43
KenSentMefranke: just ask your question. What is the problem?10:43
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plop!wpa10:43
chrisjwi don't mind ubuntu10:43
chrisjwi would like it back10:43
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chrisjwbut10:43
chrisjwi want my XP10:43
KenSentMe!tell rigonatti about fixedres10:43
KenSentMehmm10:43
frankemy cam works with xawtv, bu I cant get it to work with hasciicam10:43
Mastastealth!resolution10:43
ubotuhmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:43
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KenSentMeMastastealth: that's the one10:44
udodoes anyone know what is this mean gnushare.h:67: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of MShareThread with no typegnushare.h:67: error: expected ; before * token?10:44
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rigonattiubotu ..this not work !!10:44
uboturigonatti: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:44
Dreamgliderare there any drivers for Audigy2 sound card ?10:44
crimsun_Dreamglider: yes.10:44
jahshuathanks crimsun_10:44
MastastealthDream: its auto-supported10:44
Mastastealthatleast mine was :P10:44
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udodoes anyone know what is this mean gnushare.h:67: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of MShareThread with no typegnushare.h:67: error: expected ; before * token?10:45
Mastastealthrigonatti: what do u mean i t doesnt work? try this section: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-e2249d4bcb9fe0dea110f9b82ec7a4071622154110:45
benkong2can or would anyone point me to a good doc on getting ROR running on dapper?10:45
plopi have a strange problem : using dapper, wpa works fine, but wep & uncrypted connection doesnt work ?!! any help would be much appreciated :)10:45
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KenSentMeudo: don't keep repeating your question, if anyone can help you, they will10:45
benkong2ROR = Ruby On Rails :-(10:45
zenitchrisjw: I guess you could just boot from the live-cd and do a `grub-install /dev/hda`10:45
Mastastealthubuto tell benkong2 about ROR10:45
DavidJaqis there a way to uninstall ubuntu without uninstalling grub so I can get my winxp the way I want it?10:45
zenitchrisjw: or whatever your first drive is10:45
rigonattiubotu My maximum resolution still 1280x1024 at System >  PReferences > Screen resolutions10:45
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, rigonatti10:45
KenSentMe!rails10:45
ubotuKenSentMe: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:45
chrisjwwhat live CD, the ubuntu live cd?10:45
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zenitchrisjw: yes10:46
crimsun_planetcall: are you using network-manager? If so, I can't really help, but I can if you're using wpasupplicant directly.10:46
chrisjwi'm downloading the OS now10:46
benkong2Mastastealth: thanks10:46
Dreamglidercrimsun_,  where can i get them for dapper ?10:46
crimsun_Dreamglider: they're included.10:46
planetcallcrimsun_,  ???10:46
chrisjwif I buy a new hard drive and install ubuntu on it10:46
chrisjwand let it put the MBR on my original drive10:46
crimsun_planetcall: incorrect nick-complete10:46
chrisjwI can boot to winxp and ubuntu/>10:46
udodoes anyone know what is this mean [controller.o]  Error 1?10:46
benkong2!ROR10:46
ubotubenkong2: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:46
planetcallk np !10:46
crimsun_plop: are you using network-manager? If so, I can't really help, but I can if you're using wpasupplicant directly.10:46
Dreamglidercrimsun_,  they dont work wery well :/10:46
benkong2! ruby10:46
ubotuI guess ruby is an object oriented programming/scripting language born in Japan. You can download it at the command line by sudo apt-get install ruby1.8.10:46
plopcrimsun_: i use both10:46
jendaWhen I apt-get install something, it pulls a ton of dependencies... when I remove it, they stay. Is there any way to solve this?10:46
KenSentMebenkong2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RubyOnRails10:47
zenitchrisjw: yes, that should work ok.10:47
crimsun_Dreamglider: to assist you, I need more details than that.10:47
benkong2KenSentMe: thanks10:47
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planetcalljenda, those dependencies might be being used by other utilities/apps10:47
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chrisjwzenit, is there not a quicker way to do this though?10:47
naliothubotu: tell rigonatti about fixres10:47
plopcrimsun_: seems that even if i'm connecting without encrypt i have logs about wpa stuff10:47
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chrisjwits going to take me days to download the ubuntu cd10:47
frank_jenda: aptitude is an apt front end that can remove dependencies of package you installed with aptitude10:47
neodrummercan anybody help me install libSDL_mixer - 1.2.so.010:47
crimsun_planetcall: do you mind living without n-m temporarily? It's easiest for me to troubleshoot wpasupplicant directly.10:47
tylerofldoes anyone know of a panel addon for evolution?10:47
neodrummer????10:47
chrisjwis there not a quick way to boot and set up grub10:48
naliothchrisjw: you were advised how to do what you are trying10:48
Dreamglidercrimsun_, ok the alsa mixer has some 100 sliders, many in two pair10:48
Dreamgliderpairs10:48
jendafrank_: OK - Thanks for the info10:48
frank_jenda: you can also use deborphan  to view libraries that are not used by any package10:48
someothernickchrisjw do you have a windows cd?10:48
planetcalllol10:48
chrisjwnalioth, thanks for your help10:48
zenitchrisjw: It also takes ages just talking about it here :)10:48
jendafrank_: check :) thx10:48
MastastealthDream: you can disable them if you go into preferences10:48
chrisjwsomeothernick, yeah i do but unfortunately i don't have the admin password10:48
crimsun_Dreamglider: yes, the mixer interface can be somewhat confusing10:48
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chrisjwzenit, found a solution though, thanks for that10:49
crimsun_plop: right, try disabling n-m completely and using an "open" wpasupplicant stanza10:49
udohow can i test my sound card?10:49
crimsun_plop: sec, busy10:49
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someothernickyou could resize your windows partition and install windows to another partition10:49
ron_oudo, play something?10:49
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BerengalJust making sure I got everything right: I'm installing ubuntu on the same partition I got winXP. Should the linux partition be primary or extended, and what about the swap?10:49
someothernickshould fix mbr10:49
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Dreamglidercrimsun_, is there no easy way of getting only sliders for Master, tone bass, Microfon, line in and such. perhaps a better mixer ?10:49
MastastealthBerengal: are you trying to get rid of Windows?10:49
udoi play audio cd but i cant hear anything?10:49
planetcallBerengal, thats not a good idea10:50
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DavidJaqI have winXP installed on one hard drive, Ubuntu on my other, and I use grub to choose between them... but I want to go back to just WinXP and I can't find a way to uninstall grub that doesn't require booting from something other than my hard drive, which is what I need...10:50
steveklOk i'm using gnome for the first time, so bear with me, but is there a central configuration app, so I dont have to click on system blahblah at the top for every single thing?10:50
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MastastealthDreamglider: if you don't disable the ones you dont want, you can always use alsamixer (type in terminal)10:50
BerengalI want both OSes, for now at least10:50
siimzhi, i want to switch to ubuntu from windows, since i only use windows for recieving and archiving faxes, does anyone know if i can do this like outlook/winfax can in linux?10:50
DavidJaqSo can someone tell me if there's a way to uninstall Ubuntu without breaking Grub so I can go back to Windows XP?10:50
MastastealthBerengal: then you do NOT want ubuntu on your XP partition10:50
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gavagaiBerengal, same partition?!?! huh?10:51
planetcallDavidJaq, I have similar setup as yours and I am very happy with it.10:51
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Berengali meant drive, sorry :P10:51
planetcallbtw....ubuntu is in my primary disk10:51
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rigonattiCan anyone help me to set my ATI Card to 1600x1200 ?10:51
Mastastealthok ^_^10:51
DavidJaqI'm happy for you, planetcall10:51
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udoi cant hear anything in my sound juicer10:51
BerengalBut anyway, should the new linux partitions be primary or extended?10:51
Mastastealthit doesnt really matter10:51
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plopwhat is wpasupplicant stanza ? :)10:52
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KenSentMeDavidJaq: you have to boot your windows xp cd, go to recovery mode and run fdisk /mbd10:52
BerengalI tried extended before, but it wouldn't start ubuntu afterwards10:52
KenSentMeDavidJaq: you have to boot your windows xp cd, go to recovery mode and run fdisk /mbr10:52
plopcrimsun_: what is wpasupplicant stanza ? :)10:52
DreamgliderMastastealth, how do i choose wich soundcard alsamixer should edit ?10:52
plop!stanza10:52
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, plop10:52
KenSentMesorry for the spam10:52
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BerengalXP started fine, both from it's own mbr and Grub (as long as I didn't try to start ubuntu first10:52
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frank_vmware player is in multiverse??  what else is new in multiverse10:52
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Dreamglideralsamixer uses the onboard soundcard10:52
MastastealthDreamglider: I'm not sure :( i think it only edits the card using alsa :P10:52
uXpanyone here knows how to install opera?10:53
Mastastealth!opera10:53
ubotudownload the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser10:53
udoi have a onboard soundcard10:53
crimsun_plop: for an open AP? [http://pastebin.com/705149] 10:53
udobut nothing hear10:53
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Dreamglideri have one to, and a PCI and a USB one10:53
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KenSentMerigonatti: didn't the links ubotu gave you help?10:53
crimsun_plop: do you need one for a WEP-enabled one?10:53
TassaDarKanybody with Sound Blaster Extigy can play 2 (or more) audio channels at once? (i mean, 2+ programs using the sound card at once)10:53
xpcplease invite #eggdrop10:53
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xpcinvite channel..10:54
Mastastealth!sound10:54
ubotuHelp to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary10:54
rigonattiKentSentMe : no10:54
TassaDarKif i'm playing xmms, i can't play sounds in totem for example10:54
gnomefreak!dmix10:54
ubotuwell, dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin10:54
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KenSentMerigonatti: why not?10:54
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gnomefreakTassaDarK: ^^^10:54
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KenSentMerigonatti: you have to give is some information on what you've tried, if you get errors etc.10:54
DavidJaqKenSentMe: I have no ability of booting from CD10:54
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byronHey10:55
MastastealthTassaDarK: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4475310:55
crimsun_TassaDarK: yes, you can, but you need to use plug:dmix explicitly because we didn't enable dmix by default for usb sound devices in Dapper.10:55
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rigonattiKentSeMe I dont know....i made all process ..then go to System > Preferences > Screen REsolutions and astill 1280x1024 for maximum10:55
TassaDarKaha10:55
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TassaDarKthanks!10:55
KenSentMeDavidJaq: maybe you can use the fdisk /mbr command when running windows xp, have you tried it?10:55
TassaDarKreading...10:55
byronI am trying to compile something from source and it says that there is no acceptable c compiler found in $PATH how would I install one or is this a fault of my installation of the OS.10:55
ompaulSeveas, got two minutes I can have?10:55
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DavidJaqKenSentMe: Windows XP no longer has fdisk command10:56
Mastastealthrigonatti: have you check your xorg.conf file to see if it even has a higher res in it?10:56
KenSentMe!tell byron about build-essential10:56
crimsun_TassaDarK: there are technical reasons I chose not to, namely different devices react very badly to having dmix enabled by default due to device quirks (many usb audio devices ... "stretch" the spec).10:56
Seveasompaul, why do you keep asking? You know I always have time for you 10:56
Some_Personhas anyone tried to use "NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run" on Ubuntu?10:56
planetcallDavidJaq, you may have a look over here  http://www.theplanetcalls.com/2006/04/29/xps-little-known-rebuild-command/10:56
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ompaulthanks10:56
gnomefreakubotu tell byron -about b-e10:56
TassaDarKaham...10:56
udoi dont have multimedia system selector why?10:56
Some_Personi get error10:56
crimsun_udo: it is invoked via ``gstreamer-properties''10:56
byronthanks10:56
rigonattiMastastealth: I will paste bin for u and KentSentMe ok ?10:56
gnomefreakMastastealth: its b-e not build-essential int he bot10:56
udowhere is?10:57
KenSentMeDavidJaq: or try fixmbr10:57
Mastastealthudo: you're using dapper?10:57
TassaDarKso, usb devices have problems with that "dmix" thing that enables multichannel sound and because that is disabled by default?10:57
roostishawwhat command do i use to change file permissions so that only i can read and right to them? (my username is roostishaw)10:57
udoyes10:57
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crimsun_udo: "Multimedia System Selector" is hidden via menu spec in Dapper. Invoke it from the Terminal or alt+F210:57
Mastastealththen you cant see it, you can enable it by using the alcarte menu editor10:57
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Mastastealthor that command :P10:57
DavidJaqplanetcall If you were to actually read that, you'd find that it requires booting from the cd, which I can't do10:57
udook10:57
KenSentMe!tell roostishaw about chown10:58
DavidJaqkensentme: That's not a command from within windows, only from the recovery console on the disc10:58
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Dreamglideris there any sound mixer  other than alsa10:58
KenSentMeDavidJaq: can't you make a rescue floppy in xp?10:58
Redenthey guys, any idea where i can find a Belken Pre-N Wirless network card driver?10:58
planetcallDavidJaq,  what exactly are you trying to do buddy ?10:58
crimsun_Dreamglider: what do you mean by "sound mixer"?10:58
DavidJaqI don't have a floppy10:58
KenSentMeDavidJaq: or you have to download a copy of windows xp10:58
MastastealthRedent: on the CD? :D that doesnt sound like its supported out of box :P10:59
Dreamglidercrimsun_, to controll the sound card10:59
rigonattihttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/70515810:59
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TassaDarKso, usb devices have problems with that "dmix" thing that enables multichannel sound and because that is disabled by default? <--- is this correct crimsun_  ?10:59
Some_PersonI get "ERROR: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvsound.ko'. This is most likely because the kernel module was built using the wrong kernel source files. Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your kernel; on Red Hat Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the 'kernel-source' rpm installed. If you know the correct kernel source files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path with the '--kernel-source-path' com10:59
Bassettsis it possible to change the colour that a application changes to in the taskbar when you get a message??10:59
gallaggnomefreak: you still here (I;m SeanTater)?10:59
crimsun_Dreamglider: you can use any sound mixer, aumix, alsamixer, amixer, gnome-alsamixer, etc.10:59
Mastastealthrigonatti: have you restarted X?10:59
Redentit aint lol. it;s a top of the line wirless network card. :S i can;t find any drivers. any idea about decent sites that may shed some light on it?10:59
Arricknickrud, you here?10:59
DavidJaqI need to uninstall ubuntu on my computer. I am currently dual booting WinXP and Ubuntu using grub to go between them. I don't have the capability of booting from CD because my BIOS is broken and I don't have a floppy.10:59
crimsun_TassaDarK: that statement is wordly awkwardly and is imprecise.11:00
Arrickew11:00
KenSentMeDavidJaq: ok, i'm running out of ideas then11:00
Mastastealthubuto tell Redent about wireless11:00
crimsun_TassaDarK: worded, rather11:00
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planetcallwhat FileSystem your Ubuntu partition has ?11:00
rigonattiyou mean reboot system ? yes11:00
gallaggnomefreak: May you receive my praises! reconfigure worked!!! My screen is PERFECT!!!11:00
Some_Personany1 here uses nvidia audio driver?11:00
Mastastealth!wireless11:00
rigonattiMastastealth you mean reboot system ? yes11:00
ubotusomebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers11:00
Arrickhey DavidJaq just delete the partition that has ubuntu on it, then repair MBR11:00
Mastastealthi need to learn these irc ommands -.-11:00
gallaggnomefreak: thanks !!!11:00
Mastastealthrigonatti: and you're sure your mmonitor supports it?11:01
DavidJaqArrick: I can't repair the mbr because I have no capability of booting from cd because my BIOS is borked11:01
TassaDarKaham11:01
rigonattiyep...coz I use it in windows11:01
TassaDarKic11:01
planetcallDavidJaq, what filesystem your ubuntu has ?11:01
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ArrickDavidJaq, have you tried flashing the bios through the internet?11:01
DavidJaqext3, I think, Planetcall11:01
DavidJaqArrick: My motherboard is VERY old11:01
steveklDoes anyone know if it's possible to switch tabs in gnome-terminal with shift+(arrow)?11:02
Arrickwhat kind/11:02
Some_Personany1 here uses nvidia audio driver?11:02
Arrick!nvidia11:02
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia11:02
MastastealthrigonattiL i think ur ur conf is a little screwy. the problem is probably that you're using the "ati" drivers on your monitor, and im pretty sure those drivers wont go that high...11:02
DavidJaqArrick, there's no updates.11:02
crimsun_TassaDarK: the root of the issue is that many usb sound devices are manufactured from designs that exceed (a.k.a. break) the usb audio spec, so the alsa driver has to hard-code quirks into the driver for them. These quirks assume certain values that, when dmix is enabled, cause the device to appear to perform poorly. Thus I (since I handle much of the audio in Ubuntu kernels) decided not to enable dmix by default just for convenience. A pr11:02
Arrickok11:02
zenitDavidJaq: I guess you could use mbrutil from here http://thestarman.dan123.com/asm/mbr/BootToolsRefs.htm#PQMBR. The problem is that someone would have to provide you with an mbr from an xp system.11:02
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steveklI wonder if my messages are getting through to this channel11:02
uXpanyone know how to fix this? The following packages have unmet dependencies:11:02
uXp  opera: Depends: xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) but it is not installable or11:02
uXp                  xlibs but it is not installable11:02
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zenitDavidJaq: and don't blame me if you kill your system ;)11:03
uXpcan't find hte libs under packg manager11:03
gnomefreakuXp: install opera for dapper11:03
gnomefreak!opera11:03
ubotudownload the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser11:03
farousuXp: either wait for a dapper build or just use the weekly build for opera11:03
udoi dont hear anything in test11:03
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planetcallshit ! Mozilla-Browser is a dependency of Azureus....11:03
gnomefreakuXp: there the link for dappers opera11:03
Some_Personi get a dang error when tryin to install the nvidia nforce sound driver11:03
uXpgnomefreak:  i have those sites running11:03
Stormx2Im so bored :(11:03
Stormx2why must ubuntu not crash11:03
Stormx2lol11:03
uXpive installed the .deb but that error come up when i try to install11:03
Stormx2So i don't have to reboot...11:03
Arrickhaha thats a good one Stormx211:03
udois says Skipping unavailable plugin 'polypsrc'11:03
gnomefreakuXp: the link that says dapper in it under the weekly snapshot11:03
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crimsun_TassaDarK: does my last statement clarify the rationale?11:03
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farousuXp: it is because of the new xorg and how they place files11:04
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_absolution_will compiling source code on Anjunta work?11:04
gnomefreakuXp: sounds like to me you installed one of the debain ones not the dapper one11:04
byronnow that I have installed build essentials, when I try to compile it, it says that it needs freetype, how do I get this, what is the package called if there is one11:04
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manishcan any one tell me how to install pluggin to play the .wmv file11:04
gnomefreak_absolution_: install build-essential it will11:04
gnomefreakubotu tell manish -about wmv11:05
siimzdoes anyone know if i can recieve and organize faxes with ubuntu?11:05
funkmastersomebody knows flumotion?11:05
uXpwell gnomefreak you want i guess i should install hte weakly?11:05
Some_Personi get a dang error when tryin to install the nvidia nforce sound driver11:05
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gnomefreakuXp: you havet o for dapper11:05
uXphuh11:05
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gnomefreakyou have to install from the weekly snapshot for dapper11:05
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uXpi was dl the pakckage form the opera.com website11:05
manishgnomefreak: here no any solutions r present for AMD 64 CPU(as far as i know)11:05
uXpah k11:05
Togehello11:06
crimsun_Some_Person: why didn't you just use the realtek one you were so intent on?11:06
gnomefreakuXp: http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/   choose the dapper link11:06
DavidJaqIs there a way to edit grub so it no longer looks for Ubuntu?11:06
udoi dont hear anything in test why?11:06
gnomefreakubotu tell DavidJaq -about grub11:06
TogeI have a .mpg, how could i extract the audio track? do you know any program?11:06
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AlienXDavidJaq, yeah...edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file11:06
crimsun_udo: pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''11:06
DarkRavenMixageis there a way to upgrade from gnome to kde soflty?????11:07
DarkRavenMixagewhithout formatting out?11:07
udohow can i do that11:07
planetcallDarkRavenMixage, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:07
gnomefreakDarkRavenMixage: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:07
crimsun_udo: type the command I gave you into a Terminal, then paste that output onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:07
DarkRavenMixageplanetcall it will replace all repositories ?11:07
nostalg1cbad planetcall11:07
gnomefreakDarkRavenMixage: than log out and chopose it from sessions on the login screenm11:07
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crimsun_udo: then tell me the URL11:07
jc-dentonanybody here who is familiar with alsa11:07
jc-denton?11:07
gnomefreakDarkRavenMixage: kubuntua nd ubuntu use same repos11:07
planetcallDarkRavenMixage, nope !11:07
manishgnomefreak: here no any solutions r present for AMD 64 CPU(as far as i know)11:08
DarkRavenMixagegnomefreak so i can choose between the two desktop environment?11:08
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jc-dentonhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/Ncn7H211.html11:08
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gnomefreakmanish: for what on 64?11:08
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gnomefreakDarkRavenMixage: yes11:08
jc-dentoni played a bit with an external usb headset11:08
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jc-dentonit did not work :(11:08
gnomefreakDarkRavenMixage: i have i think 5 on here atm11:08
jc-dentonbut worse11:08
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DarkRavenMixagegnomefreak very good... i like gnome but want to try kde11:08
jc-dentonnow even esd stopped working11:08
jc-dentonbut sound w/o esd is fine11:08
udowhich is the command?11:08
byronHow would I get freetype, I am trying to compile something and it says taht I need freetype 2.1.0 or greater11:09
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gnomefreakmanish: yes there is a package for w32codecs for 64 bit11:09
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gnomefreakmanish: itas on the site ubotu gave you11:09
rptIs there a page for ubuntu supported wlan pcmcia card, I have a 3com wlan card11:09
gnomefreakubotu tell rpt -about hardware11:09
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manishgnomefreak: wait let me check again11:09
gnomefreakrpt: that link will help you11:09
jc-dentoni was also searching the wiki but didn't find anything11:09
rptgnomefreak: seems easy, cheers! :)11:10
crimsun_udo: the command is in the quotation marks11:10
DavidJaqSo, if I edit menu.lst for grub so that it only has the reference to my Windows XP install it'll make it so I can wipe Ubuntu's partitions with no problem?11:10
DarkRavenMixagei think ubuntu is the best project out there and it is the only one that will port a lot of windows user to the linux world :)11:10
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SeanTatergnomefreak: BTW: the video card dpkg-reconfigure thing worked -- thanks11:11
DarkRavenMixagei deleted windows 1 month ago11:11
gnomefreakmanish: you have to run ubuntu 386 ina  chrrot11:11
DarkRavenMixage:)11:11
Arrickamen to that DarkRavenMixage11:11
gnomefreakSeanTater: yw11:11
DarkRavenMixageand thanks to you that gives great support11:11
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DarkRavenMixageand encourage users to switch to linux11:11
wweaselHey all. I was wondering, I just installed Ubuntu, and I have installed the microsoft font package, but can I install specific fonts that I used in Windows?11:11
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DarkRavenMixagegentoo uninvited me giving me the need to reinstall windows11:11
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DarkRavenMixagewith ubuntu i don't feel the need of reinstalling windowss11:11
DarkRavenMixagei trashed the cd :P11:12
Arrick!enter11:12
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.11:12
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planetcallDarkRavenMixage, yw !11:12
dicesquirrelQuestion: I just got a new 250 GB Lacie external hard drive, USB 2.0, and I was wondering what I should format it as.11:12
Arrickhahah good one xfcefreak11:12
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Arrickdicesquirrel, do you interact with windows at all?11:13
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manishgnomefreak: how to do that11:13
dicesquirrelNo, Linux and Mac OS X only11:13
Arrickext211:13
KanRiNiNHey guys.  I'm installing Google Earth, what should I put for the binary path?  /usr/bin?  and what for the install path?  /usr/share?11:13
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DarkRavenMixagecedega works far better than windows itself11:13
DarkRavenMixageLOL11:13
_doctormoI can't unmount my usb drive, I put it in and it's mounted11:13
_doctormobut now I can't get it back11:13
wweaselHey all. I was wondering, I just installed Ubuntu, and I have installed the microsoft font package, but can I install specific fonts that I used in Windows?11:13
dicesquirrelActually... what would the downsides to using a Windows-compatible format be?11:13
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wweaseldicesquirrel: FAT32 maxes out at 32gb, and NTFS is readonly in Linux.11:14
_doctormowweasel: yes you can11:14
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wweasel_doctormo: how?11:14
dicesquirrelSo FAT32 would not work with a 250 gig drive?11:14
Arrickdicesquirrel, if you use ntfs, you cant write to it with ubuntu11:14
manishgnomefreak: how to do that?? how to run ubuntu 386 in a  chrrot???11:14
_doctormowweasel: if they are ttf fonts you can install them in the ~/.fonts/ directory11:14
wweasel_doctormo: just copy and paste?11:14
_doctormowweasel: yep11:14
dicesquirrelIs there anything that I can read/write at full speed on all three OSes?11:15
wweaseldicesquirrel: no. you could make many 32gb partitions, but no partition greater than 32 gb.11:15
dicesquirrelEw11:15
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=== Arrick although if you have a windows box, ftp is nice for writing to ntfs, and has never failed me yet, since January
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manishgnomefreak: r u there?? can u plz tell me how to do that..11:15
nostalg1cor samba...11:15
vladuz976what's a good program to draw electronic circuits with?11:15
wweaseldicesquirrel: I don't know about Mac OSX, but I know that you can get read/write support for ext2 in windows.11:15
udoVIA 8237 with AD1888 at 0xe400, irq 201 , saa7133[0]  at 0xfeb00000 irq 193 this is my settings11:15
dicesquirrelYou can -get- it, or it's already there?11:15
Sophoclesyo is there any way i can write to ntfs partitions w/ linux?11:16
planetcallI installed Java5 but the java -version still says 1.4.211:16
Arrickwweasel, the ext2 and ext3 both will write to 160gigs, why not 250?11:16
plopcrimsun_: sry i've been away11:16
_doctormoI'm still unable to unmount my usb device11:16
Arrick!ntfs11:16
planetcalli just did dpkg-reconfigure java-common but to no avail11:16
ubotuto automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>11:16
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dicesquirrelHeh, I love seeing Sophocles say "yo"11:16
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kbrooksi want a fresh install of dapper.11:16
BioVorEplanetcall: need to update the symlink in /etc/alternitives11:16
ArrickSophocles, only if you use ftp for it.11:16
kbrooksbut i dont have the cds yet11:16
wweaselArrick: What?11:16
jc-dentonplease help me with my stupid alsa problem i cannot find any documentation about alsa in ubuntu :(((11:16
kbrookswhat do i do? i have the breezy cds.11:16
Sophoclesthat doesn't work, its another partition on a dual boot system11:17
kbrooksi want a fresh install of dapper.11:17
DarkRavenMixagegonna reset graphic interface :P11:17
kbrooksbut i dont have the cds yet11:17
B_166-ER-Xcan we dist-upgrade to dapper ?%11:17
kbrookswhat do i do? i have the breezy cds.11:17
wweaselArrick: I said it's FAT32 that won't write past 32.11:17
Arrickwweasel, ext2 and ext3 both support 160 gigs, why couldnt dicesquirrel use one of those?11:17
Arrickoh ok11:17
plopcrimsun_: so every connection is handled by wpa.conf...ok :) didn't see it like this11:17
kbrooksB_166-ER-X: breezy > dapper11:17
dicesquirrelSo ext2 is the way to go? Not ext3?11:17
manishgnomefreak: r u there?? can u plz tell me how to do that..11:17
dicesquirrelOh, and I'll have to make partitions no matter what?11:17
KanRiNiNMan, Google Earth isntalled fine.  I love how in Ubuntu, it just works, whereas in SuSE I had to edit all the configs and such.11:17
planetcallBioVorE, I see a lot of them. Whom should be updated ?11:17
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kbrooksB_166-ER-X: not warty (or hoary) > dapper11:17
wweaselArrick: I recommended those. But I don't know about support for either of them in OS X.11:17
Arrickext3 has failed for me, and ext2 has not11:17
plopcrimsun_: thanks a lot for help, i'll try later and keep you update :)11:17
crimsun_plop: only if you use wpasupplicant directly. n-m bypasses the conffile.11:17
dicesquirrelOS X doesn't matter -so- terribly much.11:17
wweaselDicesquirrel: You can make a single 250 GB partition of either ext2 or ext311:18
B_166-ER-Xkbrooks,  perfect :) thx11:18
Arrickwweasel, there is support for ext2 I know, but I dont know about ext311:18
udocrimsun it said VIA 8237 with AD1888 at 0xe400, irq 201 , saa7133[0]  at 0xfeb00000 irq 19311:18
wweaselalright.11:18
dicesquirrelwweasel: okay, and that is the most effective thing to do? One big partition?11:18
Arricklater guys11:18
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BioVorEplanetcall: well java is a symlink to the real java exec.. make it point to the java in /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java11:18
crimsun_udo: ok, great. Please pastebin ``cat ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''11:18
crimsun_udo: (use pastebin, not the channel)11:18
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DerDracleHm, I'm having trouble getting Xforwarding working.11:18
udoi dont know :p11:18
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wweaseldicesquirrel: so, if arrick says os x supports ext2, go ext2. partitioning doesn't change effectiveness. if you want 2 partitions do so, but you can do whatever you like.11:19
harm_how do u display currenet date and time in a terminal?11:19
crimsun_DerDracle: are you using ``ssh -X [...] '' ?11:19
DerDracleI set up a Breezy badger machine, and in the ssh server configuration, X forwarding enable is set true.11:19
crimsun_harm_: date -R11:19
DerDraclecrimsun_, Yes.11:19
DerDraclecrimsun_, But, the DISPLAY doesn't get set.11:19
dicesquirrelgreat! I've never worked with so large a hard drive, sometimes things are finicky like that.11:19
DerDraclecrimsun_, And, I'm unable to figure out through xauth any displays that would work.11:19
crimsun_DerDracle: tried ssh -{y,Y}?11:19
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blahblahhow often to kernel updates come out?  I'm new to ubuntu and (recently trying dapper) need a newer kernel for my wireless adapter11:19
DerDraclecrimsun_, No, what does this do?11:19
blahblahdoing the simple update didn't install a new kernel...which surprisedme11:20
manishcan any one tell me how to install a 386 package on AMD6411:20
dicesquirrelThanks11:20
crimsun_DerDracle: I'm going to point you to the "trusted" portion of the man page.11:20
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crimsun_DerDracle: (for ssh)11:20
DerDraclecrimsun_, Christ, that worked.11:20
DerDraclecrimsun_, Thankyou :)11:20
crimsun_DerDracle: np11:20
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DerDraclecrimsun_, I'll definitely look that up.11:20
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manishcan any one tell me how to install a 386 package on AMD6411:20
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simian__i've been playing around with ssh and vnc and i've set up my router to allow traffic from port 80 and 5900   but i'm a bit paranoid that i may be vulnerable now?  any advice would be most welcome11:20
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DerDraclecrimsun_, Could you give me a simple summary, perhaps?11:20
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DarkRavenMixagegnomefreask when i tried to start kde it reurned with an error11:21
DerDraclecrimsun_, Ahh, it bipasses all security.11:21
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DerDraclecrimsun_, So, it's something my client was blocking?11:21
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DarkRavenMixagegnomefreak unable to start kdestartupconfiguration "sonething like that" please check your installation11:21
Sophoclesi cant help but notice the irony of asking "gnomefreak" for help with kde11:21
roostishawhow do i use a command requiring sudo in a script that is running at shutdown? i ask cause there is no way for the user to input the root password...11:21
crimsun_DerDracle: not really "bypasses" so much as "assumes you really mean to forward and thus enabled trusted forwarding"11:21
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kiko0123is it possible to tri boot XP, Vista and Ubuntu directly from grub? Actually when i boot my computer Grub boot and ask me either Linux or Windows, if i select linux it boot ubuntu which is ok, but if i select Windows it then brings me to the windows NTLoader and ask me either vista or xp11:21
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_doctormokiko0123: yes11:21
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manishcan any one tell me how to install a 386 package on AMD6411:22
manishcan any one tell me how to install a 386 package on AMD6411:22
manishcan any one tell me how to install a 386 package on AMD6411:22
kiko0123is there anyway to directly from grub go to ubuntu xp and vista ?11:22
crimsun_manish: kill the repeat, please.11:22
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wweasel!patience11:22
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.11:22
redent-1hey guys, it's redent again. ok my guestion was this11:22
redent-1hey guys. one more thing. i ahev an original copy of ubuntu 5.10. however it doesn;t have sound supprt form my chipset. i haev heard that 6.06 does but my lkaptop wont boot form CD-r. and way i can get a patch or upgrade to upgrade my system to 6.06 without re-installing?11:22
kiko0123without passing via the second boot loader to choose either xp or vista11:22
jbroomebeetlejuice, beetlejuice, beetlejuice11:22
zenithsglintwhat's the easiest way to install sshd?11:22
wweaselGuys, where is the fonts folder located?11:22
crimsun_zenithsglint: apt-get install openssh-server11:22
kbrooksi want a fresh install of dapper.11:22
kbrooksbut i dont have the cds yet11:23
kbrookswhat do i do? i have the breezy cds.11:23
_doctormoredent-1: yes you can upgrade, please see the dapper upgrade docs11:23
fcaliseredent-l there is an upgrade11:23
zenithsglintcrimsun_ thanks very much.11:23
kbrooksANYONE.11:23
maLLocwho may help me finding the right way to configure grup in a complex SATA/PATA enviroment ?11:23
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Sophoclesu should be able to configure grub in /boot11:23
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Sophoclesto add a menu listing for vista11:23
kbrooksFOR FUCKS SAKE.11:23
DarkRavenMixagei tried to sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but whe ni try to start the KDE session it returns with this error "unable to start kdestartupconfiguration "sonething like that" please check your installation11:23
manishcrimsun_ : ok sorry.. but plz tell me how to play wmv file n realmedia file on my ubuntu AMD 64 bit machine11:23
kiko0123Sophocles, i did11:23
crimsun_kbrooks: read the query from ubotu.11:23
blahblahhow often do ubuntu kernel updates come out?  I need a newer kernel than the installed/base one and don't know how to get it through the package management system11:23
kiko0123but when i tryed to boot it it gived me a error11:23
wweaselGuys, where is the fonts folder located?11:23
kbrookscrimsun_: the edgy eft repo is "open", btw11:23
crimsun_manish: ...the what?11:23
_doctormokbrooks: install breezy, upgrade to dapper OR get a cd11:23
kiko0123i added the vista to /boot/grub/menu.lst11:23
rixxoni want to send mp3s to my sisters mobile phone over ir, my laptop has ir etcetera, but what to do?11:23
Sophocleskiko0123: what error?11:23
redent-1can i upgrade bydownlaoding it on myw indows desktop, moving it via cd-r and instaling it liek that, rather than downloading directly thought ubuntu?11:23
jc-dentoni switch to vista11:24
jc-dentonms supports it's os at least11:24
crimsun_kbrooks: for values of "open", yes. It's open for the toolchain to be upgraded, yes. It's not open for general uploads.11:24
Sophocleskiko0123: what exactly did u add to menu.lst?11:24
_doctormorixxon: are you using irda?11:24
manishcrimsun_: the wmv file n also the realmedia file..11:24
kiko0123Sophocles, sec11:24
kbrookscrimsun_: toolchain?11:24
crimsun_manish: have you read the restrictedformats wiki page?11:24
crimsun_kbrooks: yes, like glibc, binutils, gcc, etc.11:24
roostishawhow do i use a command requiring sudo in a script that is running at shutdown? i ask cause there is no way for the user to input the root password...11:24
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rixxon_doctormo: hm? probably not since i don't know. i tried to send from the phone to the laptop, it said no receiver available (kinda)11:25
rixxon_doctormo: i guess my ir port is inactive11:25
crimsun_kbrooks: i.e., we're not uploading stuff like KDE.11:25
manishcrimsun_ : ya just now ubotu told me i also gone throught that11:25
kbrookscrimsun_: why toolchain first?11:25
kiko0123Sophocles, can i pm you ?11:25
crimsun_kbrooks: because you can't compile anything without it11:25
_doctormorixxon: I asume your ir hardware is supported11:25
bootlickAnyway to get sound in a flash animation in firefox, running under drapper?11:25
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rixxon_doctormo: no idea. should i try irda-utils or gsm-utils or something?11:25
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Some_PersonIs there an ubuntu skin for splashy?11:26
crimsun_manish: realplayer 10?11:26
manishcrimsun_: but there its saying that Some people solve this problem by installing the i386 Ubuntu distribution inside a chroot which i dont know how to do11:26
Sophocleskiko: ya11:26
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_doctormorixxon: yes11:26
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crimsun_manish: search the wiki for debootstrap11:26
rixxon_doctormo: which one? :P11:26
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manishcrimsun_ : ok11:26
JohnsonEi uninstalled VMware player through the add/remove programs tool. Where else could a trace of it be hiding that's preventing me from installing the server?11:26
crimsun_manish: ...or search for ia32-libs11:26
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_doctormorixxon: irda-utils are command line tools11:27
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rixxon_doctormo: don't i need to enable my ir port with something?11:27
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mikeo1how do i make my ubuntu installation into a fileserver so i can mount a folder as a network drive in windows?11:27
Some_Personi've got splashy (usplash is UGLY) working on LILO, and I want an Ubuntu theme for it.11:28
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_doctormorixxon: you need ensure that it's turned on in the bios11:28
rixxon_doctormo: oh :p11:28
DarkRavenMixagei can't manage to let kubuntu work after sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:28
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DarkRavenMixage(after i got ubuntu)11:28
DarkRavenMixageit sais can't startup kstartconfig11:28
rixxon_doctormo: been there many times, can't recall anything regarding ir11:28
roostishawhow do i use a command requiring sudo in a script that is running at shutdown? i ask cause there is no way for the user to input the root password...11:28
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mikeo1how do i make my ubuntu installation into a fileserver so i can mount a folder as a network drive in windows?11:28
_doctormorixxon: how is your irda connected to the computer?11:28
Dial_tonemikeo1 install samba11:28
[g2] any idea when Google Earth V4 will be ready for Dapper ?11:28
rixxon_doctormo: laptop, built in11:29
fcaliseroostishaw: sudo apt-get install gksudo11:29
ompaulask  google?11:29
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manishcrimsun_: its not there .. :(11:29
[g2] ompaul V4 for Linux is out now11:29
fcaliseroostishaw: then in your script call gksudo command you need to run11:29
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crimsun_manish: what's not there?11:29
_doctormorixxon: it will be in the serial port part of the bios11:29
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roostishawfcalise, what would gksudo do? it still asks for a pass11:29
manish crimsun_: the ia32-libs11:30
planetcallBioVorE, TY11:30
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Some_Personi guess i'll have to create a theme if there isn't one *sighs*11:30
fcaliseroostishaw: no when you run gksudo cmdthatrequiresroot it will run it as root you won't need to enter in a pw11:30
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DarkRavenMixagei can't manage to let kubuntu work after sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:30
rixxon_doctormo: is tnere no easy way, like i put the mobile in front of my ir port, and some kind of /media drive shows up? :S11:30
DarkRavenMixageit sais can't startup kstartconfig11:30
roostishawfcalise, isn't that a security risk??11:31
JohnsonEi uninstalled VMware player through the add/remove programs tool. Where else could a trace of it be hiding that's preventing me from installing the server?11:31
debian_anyone have any experience getting a Mercury bran CyberPix S 555v digital camera working under dapper? I googled around and tried compiling and using the spca5xx module but dapper still must not be picking my camera up because its not creating /dev/video11:31
rixxon_doctormo: that's how i'd like it anyway, like a usb memory or something11:31
fcaliseroostishaw: probably but you asked for a way to run a sudo command haha11:31
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crimsun_manish: apt-cache search ia32 libs11:31
roostishawfcalise, ...11:32
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Pupeno!mp311:32
ubotu[mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:32
Pupeno!mov11:32
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Pupeno11:32
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nickrudJohnsonE, it may have left something in /var, I usually look there first for things not removed with apt11:32
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_doctormorixxon: the problem is that irdais based on serial ports and usb is far far newer and serial ports don't have the ability to even tell you about the device your working with, it's just poke out the instructions and hope someting is listening11:32
DarkRavenMixagei can't manage to let kubuntu work after sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:32
PupenoHello.11:32
DarkRavenMixageit sais can't startup kstartconfig when i try to start KDE11:32
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benplautwoohoo!11:32
DarkRavenMixagehelp me plz11:32
PupenoCan Ubuntu play .mov files ? If so, what do I have to install ?11:32
ompaulroostishaw, I suggest that you read the full page http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:32
benplautgoogle earth linux is out :D11:32
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udocrimsun this is the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1561011:33
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rixxon_doctormo: oh, i guess i can understand that. i do know it can tell if something responds though11:33
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rixxon_doctormo: but perhaps not really create a true connection11:33
CiberSkullhi, recently i installed ubuntu on my pc, 5.10 & 6.06, but unfortunatly it doesn't have C headers( stdio.h for example) does any one kmow how to get them?( i installed gcc by doing apt-get install gcc...11:33
jbroomebenplaut: does it run under wine like picassa does?11:33
rixxon_doctormo: btw, i recall now, IR have worked in windows before, so it is probably enabled in bios11:33
mjrCiberSkull, install the build-essential package11:33
Bassettscan i change the colour that programs flash in the taskbar??11:34
manishcrimsun_: i have already installed that package11:34
benplauti don't know11:34
nickrudbenplaut, downloading as I speak, thanks11:34
CiberSkullmjr where can i get it?11:34
tristanmikeCiberSkull: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"11:34
manishcrimsun_ : i mean that library..11:34
crimsun_manish: then search the wiki for debootstrap11:34
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CiberSkulltks XD11:34
_doctormorixxon: yes it's got certain protocalls ect, certain things it expects in response. the best thing I find is to cat /dev/irda and poke the dive at it because the device will shop data in the cat as it tries to connect to the computer11:34
QPAD|war-awayhttp://dust2.mine.nu/webmin/index.php - see the "blue" things around the logo? how do i remove it?11:34
nostalg1c2332 <[g2] > any idea when Google Earth V4 will be ready for Dapper ?11:34
nostalg1c2234 [Slashdot]  (mainpage) Google Earth v4 Released: Linux Support at Last - http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/12/205025511:34
nostalg1clol11:34
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QPAD|war-awayoops11:35
rixxon_doctormo: or maybe the irdaping command line tool i just installed...11:35
QPAD|war-awaywrong chan, my apologizes.11:35
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udocrimsun this is the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1561011:35
manishcrimsun_ : i also installed that package11:36
ompaulfcalise,  this may help answer the questuib that was put to you http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:36
mikeo1how do i configure samba11:36
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DoctorMOrixxon I've pm'ed you11:37
QPAD|war-away!pastebin11:37
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .11:37
afabianHi, folks.  I wanted to use 6.06 on an LVM install, and .. well, I'm stumped.  Google didn't help me much either.  Can anyone tell me how I can get Ubuntu installed with LVM?11:37
JohnsonEhow can i set azureus as my default torrent handler from firefox?11:38
manishcrimsun_ : can u plz tell me, how to run ubuntu 386 in a  chrrot???11:38
crimsun_manish: it's not enough just to install debootstrap. You have to use it to create an ia32 chroot.11:38
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crimsun_manish: the wiki has good instructions11:38
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crimsun_udo: I'll attempt to read that shortly, very busy atm11:39
LiteHeddedhow do I change my network card to dhcp?11:39
LiteHeddedfrom a terminal11:39
manishcrimsun_: where? plz give me the link of wiki again11:39
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DarkRavenMixagehey man how to start kde from console?11:39
DarkRavenMixagestartx for gnome11:39
DarkRavenMixagefor kde?11:39
crimsun_manish: http://wiki.ubuntu.com11:39
BioVorEDarkRavenMixage: you have kde installed?11:39
mikeo1kdestart or startkde or soemthing11:39
mikeo1i think startkde11:40
judahLiteHedded: sudo ifdown eth0; sudo dhclient eth0;11:40
madwLiteHedded:  man dhclient11:40
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DarkRavenMixagebiovore i sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:40
judahLiteHedded: configuration is in /etc/network/interfaces11:40
fcaliseHas anyone made Eterm work wtih artwiz fonts?11:40
DarkRavenMixagebiovore but when i try to boot with kde it sayd can't start kstartconfig please check your installarion11:40
pianoboy3333I recently really messed up my hard drive, can anyone help me out? The full story is at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19463211:40
Stroganoffubuntu pwnz!11:40
manishcrimsun_ : ok let me find out n read out then11:40
LiteHeddedok i did dhclient11:40
LiteHeddedit's running11:40
udocrimsun i paste again shortly11:41
BioVorEDarkRavenMixage: might have to install xterm and run xinit and after that starts up run startkde and see what it dose.11:41
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fr77beI have changed my resolution. It worked perfect!!, but I want to do it also in Ubuntu 64 bit, can I have the terminal command again.11:41
crimsun_udo: I have the URL; I'm just swamped atm11:41
JohnsonEhow can i set azureus as my default torrent handler from firefox?11:41
udothis is the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1561311:41
udook11:41
LiteHeddeddoesn't seem to be finding an address11:41
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mcrashhi11:42
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DarkRavenMixagei try11:42
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LiteHeddedok working now!11:42
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fr77bedoes anyone know the comment for changing the resolution manually11:42
fr77bexserver or so?11:42
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funkjaHi, I am trying to compile gnome-libs and am getting this error "Berkeley db library required for Gnome". I just installed the libglib2.0-dev package, but am still getting the same error.11:43
gourdinhow can I format a disk (real format like putting random on it) ?11:43
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afabianfr77be: I never knew of any command to manually change the resolution of a running X server.  cntrl-alt-+ and cntrl-alt-minus cycle through pre-configured resolutions in the xorg.conf, though11:43
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mcrashfunkja install automatix is more easy11:44
crimsun_udo: can you hear anything with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''?11:44
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funkjawhat is automatix?11:44
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fr77beI beleve it has to do with that xorg.conf,11:44
KingOfNoWhereautomatix is an automatic installer for a bunch of commonly used apps11:45
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fr77beI had to answer some questions on my configuration incl. keyboard and mouse and also for my resolution11:45
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farous!automatix11:45
mcrashthanks <KingOfNoWhere>11:45
funkjaokay, ill check it out11:45
mcrash;)11:45
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udocrimsun no11:45
KingOfNoWherenp11:45
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crimsun_udo: do you have multiple sound devices?11:45
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[g2] nostalg1c heh... it's a shell script that does the install :)11:46
ompaul!+automatix11:46
ubotuI guess automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. It has been reported that it may break your system, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of Automatix please join #automatix.11:46
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[g2] .bin is a funny extension11:46
farousoh that is it ompaul thanx11:46
fr77benow I want to do the same in ubuntu 64 but I lost the line. It was to make changes in the standard values11:46
udoyes my system detect a other device11:46
ompaulfunkja, ^^ that comment by ubotu11:46
udotv tuner card11:47
bootlickWhats a good program for download music on ubuntu?11:47
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TassaDarK<crimsun_>TassaDarK: the root of the issue is that many usb sound devices are manufactured from designs that exceed (a.k.a. break) the usb audio spec, so the alsa driver has to hard-code quirks into the driver for them. These quirks assume certain values that, when dmix is enabled, cause the device to appear to perform poorly. Thus I (since I handle much of the audio in Ubuntu kernels) decided not to enable dmix by default just for convenience. <---11:47
TassaDarKi read it now (i was dinning) & i understand, thanks for de explanation :-)11:47
crimsun_udo: which device are you trying to use?11:47
Bassettscan i make gnome save my session so when i log back in it is restored, like in breezy??11:47
JohnsonEis it possible to uninstall mozilla? :| i just want to have firefox11:47
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DarkRavenMixagenothing....11:47
udohow can i check11:47
funkjaStupid Question: How do you check whether you are running Dapper or Breezy?11:47
DarkRavenMixagei can log in only with11:47
fr77bedoes anyone know how the change your resolution if it is not in the list?11:47
DarkRavenMixagenothing, i can only log in as the root///11:47
_jasonfunkja: lsb_release -c11:47
funkjathanks11:48
farousfrank_: !+resoultion11:48
udoVIA 823711:48
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crimsun_udo: Has sound ever been audible?11:48
Yoric_antix, hey, thanks, I just learnt somtehing.11:48
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JohnsonEalso, how does one set up a script to launch gaim on bootup?11:48
Bassetts!resolution11:48
uboturesolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:48
udoaudible?11:49
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Bassettsfr77be ^^11:49
farousso ubotu hate me today11:49
TassaDarKbut crimsun_ where i enable/disable that "dmix" thing? or is a plugin i have to download?11:49
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mavroidiHi, I solved a big problem I had with a breezy to dapper upgrade11:49
ompaulfarous, that bot is a bot - it has no emotins11:49
crimsun_udo: have you ever heard anything from that sound device?11:49
ompaulemotions11:49
_jasonJohnsonE: system > preferences > sessions11:49
udono11:49
jbroomefarous: only when you don't query the bot right.  it's !resolution11:49
JohnsonEthanks jason11:49
crimsun_TassaDarK: just use plug:dmix. It's already included.11:49
farousompaul: i know just kidding11:49
benkong2!fish11:50
ubotusomebody said fish was A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.11:50
crimsun_TassaDarK: e.g., ``aplay -Dplug:dmix /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''11:50
mavroidiafter reboot, I had partitions missing and after dpkg-reconfigure kernel  it wouldn't boot at all11:50
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DarkRavenMixageplease help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation11:50
JohnsonEto startup gaim on boot, would i just set the command as "gaim"?11:50
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udowhat can i do now?11:50
_jasonJohnsonE: yep11:50
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farousafter my second coffee and still not functioning mm good thing i postponed the meetin11:50
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mavroidithe problem was in breezy I had a 686-smp kernel, which didn't get upgraded,11:51
TassaDarKbut i have to use that command for every thing? there is not a "dmix" enable by default?11:51
crimsun_udo: try: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off11:51
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fr77behe guys, I found it in the manual. type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in your terminal and you can make changes to your configuration presets11:51
crimsun_TassaDarK: look at the dmixplugin page on alsa2.opensrc.org11:51
TassaDarKtassadar@Aiur-1:~$ aplay -Dplug:dmix /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav11:51
TassaDarKALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave11:51
TassaDarKaplay: main:544: error al abrir audio: Dispositivo  recurso ocupado11:51
TassaDarKok, reading...11:51
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fr77beI am off again,11:52
Some_PersonI got my soundcard workin on ubuntu!!!!!!!!!111:52
mavroidiafter getting the latest 686 kernel dapper worked fine, this may also have caused the pcmcia problem in the dapperupgrades wiki11:52
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DarkRavenMixageplease help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation11:52
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JohnsonEwhat kind of card, some_person?11:52
bootlickWhat do i need to get sound working for flash movies?11:52
Maestro739hello11:52
Maestro739everyone11:52
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Maestro739i just bought a new laptop and i was wondering if i were to install ubunutu woul di towrk11:53
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Some_Personi now know its not an AC97, its an nForce11:53
_jasonubotu: tell Maestro739 about laptop11:53
JowiMaestro739: try the desktop-cd, which is a live cd so you can try before you install it.11:53
Some_Personbut, i need a good music/video player (like Windows Media Player in windows)11:54
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DarkRavenMixageplease help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation11:54
roostishawSeveas, how would i add my script to reboot?11:54
_jasonubotu: tell Some_Person about multimedia11:54
kiko0123hum weird...When i boot my computa, grub comes, it ask Linux ubuntu or windows xp, when i select linux ubuntu it loads correctly, when i select windows xp i am presented with an other bootloader (the microsoft one) asking XP or Vista, is there anyway to from grub directly tri boot the three of them ?11:54
JohnsonEsome_person: I've been using XMMS for music and VLC for video11:55
udoi dont have external aplifier11:55
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Stormx2What runs on port 2234?11:55
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funkjamcrash: how does Automatix fix my problem?11:55
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DarkRavenMixageplease help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation11:55
JohnsonEall i have to do is solve my vmware problem and i'll be set for life with linux :D11:56
JowiStormx2: "sudo lsof -i tcp:2234"11:56
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Some_PersonWhat is the best Windows Media Player-like program for ubuntu/11:56
ompaulfunkja, please ask in #automatix11:56
tristanmikeSome_Person: I like mPlayer11:56
IinuxeristSome_Person: I use AmaroK myself11:56
Some_PersonDarkRavenMixage: go to #kubuntu11:56
roostishawanyone in here know how to add a script to reboot?11:56
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DarkRavenMixagei-m in jubuntu but no one can help me11:56
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DarkRavenMixagei got an ubuntuinstall upgraded to kde11:57
franciscohola11:57
DarkRavenMixagenot a fresh kubuntu install11:57
udocrimsun i dont have external aplifier11:57
IinuxeristDarlRavenMixage: I would just create a new account.11:57
Jowiroostishaw: explain what you mean. you mean that you want your script to reboot your machine or you want your script to run when the machine is starting?11:57
franciscosabe algien como se compila el skyeye11:57
keleusi kinda like the look of xubuntu11:57
PerkabaloHi i'm installing Ubuntu 6.06 atm and I wonder how to set up partitions properly, I've created a 8gb ext3 partition for /11:57
Perkabalobut how much space should I set to the swap partition and is /boot really needed at all? :)11:57
ompaulDarkRavenMixage, you have done something wrong if all you can do is log in as root - that is not default behaviour for Ubuntu and it seems to be a little strange to me (but that is just me)11:57
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keleusPerkabalo; no more than 1024MB of swap should be needed11:58
keleusa decent rule is double your ram11:58
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Maestro739hey how do u partion when ur installin ubuntu11:58
dou213Perkabalo, usually swap should be twice ur ram11:58
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Bassettswhats a good audo converter??11:58
roostishawJowi, i want it to run when i reboot, or shutdown my comp11:58
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JowiMaestro739: with a graphical interface if you use the desktop-cd. text based partitioning if you use any of the other cds11:58
NedSchnittthello, room11:59
Perkabalook thanks, but what about /boot needed?11:59
valehruHey guys...how can I empty the trash from the console>?11:59
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keleusPerkabalo; no, if you dont make one it will be /boot on your root11:59
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keleusPerkabalo; but if you do make one, youll be fine with 100mb11:59
daveyjhello!11:59
daveyji'm an idiot and automatix uninstalled my nvidia drivers11:59
daveyjand now i have no idea how to get them back11:59
Iinuxeristvalehru: I believe the folder is ~/.trash11:59
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crimsun_udo: according to your pastebin you do.12:00

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