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LiteHeddedokey dokey12:03
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ctford0nope grub-insall hd0 didn't work either12:03
nixternalhmmm...now that is odd DarkRavenMixage...because if is that way, then it should work12:03
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DarkRavenMixageits very strange....12:04
nixternalare you logged on as root right now or no?12:04
DarkRavenMixagenow not12:04
nico8481anyone running amarok 1.4.0 or 1.4.0a ?12:04
DarkRavenMixagei-m logged as user12:04
mrfishhatdid you remember the t?12:04
DarkRavenMixagebut not from this computer12:04
ctford0anyone know how to clear out the mbr??12:04
DarkRavenMixagei-m using a second pc to chat with u12:04
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DaSkreechnico8481: I am12:05
nixternalctford0: boot wiht a win98 boot disk...then type     fdisk /mbr12:05
ctford0lol, yea mrfishhat....12:05
nixternalthat cleans out the mbr12:05
nico8481DaSkreech: hehe, already asked you i think :) it's about the layout problem for the Playing: area :)12:05
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clintc_laptophow do I tell konqueror that a single left mouse click is for selecting a file versus launching it12:05
DaSkreechStill have that?12:05
DaSkreechThat12:05
DaSkreechThat's annoying :)12:06
chavoclintc_laptop, go to Peripherals -> Mouse12:06
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nico8481DaSkreech: hell yes :) filed a bug report but i doubt it's a bug since you don't have it and got it from the same source than i did :-/12:07
nico8481(well if i remember correctly, http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 isn't it?)12:07
sokubanI need something called X (or X-dev) for compiling a source code. I can't seem to find out how to get it.12:07
clintc_laptopchavo: excellent, thanks12:07
DarkRavenMixageplease help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation12:07
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clintc_laptopdoes anyone know hoe to turn the konqueror menu back on after turning it off/hiding it12:08
DaSkreechnico8481: Yeah12:08
nico8481DarkRavenMixage: did you try on #KDE? maybe they can help...12:09
sokubanmaybe ALT-F3? Might help somehow12:09
nico8481raaaaaah !12:09
ctford0go to the contol panel and tell it to start a fresh session12:10
clintc_laptopsokuban: that doesn't get them12:10
ctford0that will get yor panel back12:10
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sokubanclintc_laptop: sorry then, I thought there would be a way to turn it back on from that menu12:10
DaSkreechclintc_laptop: Try Ctrl+M12:10
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clintc_laptopsokuban: yes, I thought so to12:11
sokuban>__>12:11
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sokubanI need something called X (or X-dev) for compiling a source code. I can't seem to find out how to get it. Anyone know what it is?12:11
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kcqI have Kubuntu 6.06 installed in a proliant 1600 server running dual P2-400Mhz processors (yeah, it's old) - Is there a way to see if the second processor is being used? And if not how to make it available? BIOS post page shows both available but KDE system info seems like it only shows a single processor.12:12
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DaSkreechclintc_laptop: Try Ctrl+M12:12
Sannesokuban, if the compiler complains about a filename that it can't find, you can look for the package it's in on packages.ubuntu.com under section "Search the contents of packages"12:12
DarkRavenMixageplease help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation , in #kde they do not answer12:12
sokuban(I already searched at packages.ubuntu.com) but I googled it, maybe I'll try from the site itself12:13
imbrandonDarkRavenMixage, try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop12:13
ctford0kcq, top should list both processors if they are there12:13
DarkRavenMixageimbrandon allright12:13
Sannesokuban, can you paste the error output on some pastebin? I can have a look if you want.12:13
ctford0you can also try dmesg to see if they are both being detected12:13
DarkRavenMixagei-ll give a try12:13
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ctford0kcq, after running top press 1 and that should show the loads on both processors seperately12:14
clintc_laptopDaSkreech: is the winner!12:14
clintc_laptopthanks , that was driving me nuts12:14
fimblokcq: you can run: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo" if you see two CPUs you're ok12:14
sokubanHuh? I have no error output? I am looking for the package of 'X' (I mean I do have an error output, but its the standard one saying something about not being able to find the package)12:15
DarkRavenMixagehey12:16
DarkRavenMixagei figured the problem12:16
DarkRavenMixagehot to grant all permission of a folder to an user via console_12:16
DarkRavenMixage??12:16
DarkRavenMixagehow12:16
DaSkreechclintc_laptop: sure man12:16
fimblodarkravenmixage: chmod 777 dirname12:16
mrfishhatwhy when i try to use write in ubuntu it says that the user has write disabled?12:16
DaSkreechclintc_laptop: I think you can do that in any KDE APP12:16
kcqfimblo: tried it and it shows: processor 0...stepping 212:17
DarkRavenMixagefirnblo logged as root?12:17
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Sannesokuban, exactly this error message I would want to see ;)12:17
Sannesokuban, there are lots of X development packages, maybe we can find out the correct one.12:17
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fimblokcq: er, don't you see like 15 lines or so, starting with processor:0 and ending with bogomips: ####?12:18
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sokubanSanne: Oh, I get it, you want the error message from me compiling, one sec12:18
DarkRavenMixagefirnblo how to give privileges to subdirectories too???12:19
clintc_laptopDaSkreech: yes, I just tried it with Konversation, when you hide the menu with konqueror via the menu you don't get the helpful message about cntl-m12:19
fimblodarkrabenmixage: chmod -R 777 dirname12:19
DaSkreechAh. That sounds like a bug report :)12:19
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fimblobut this is quite dangerous- it opens you up completely. Better to set it to 750 or something (full permissions for you, run/read permissions for your group, and none for others)12:20
slow-motionn812:20
sokubanSanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15608 Take a look at line 42. The thing happily compiles without X and SDL is trying to use SVGAlib or something that I don't want/12:20
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Sannesokuban, looking...12:20
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danHi everybody !12:21
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fimblohi12:21
danI have a littlre trouble with konqueror12:21
danI have lost the preview12:21
danof all file12:21
danaudio, pdf, etc..12:21
dando you know how to correct this ?12:22
fimbloDarkRavenMixage: how did it go?12:22
ctford0fdisk /mbr just killed my whole partition table12:22
dani don't know12:22
fimblodid you back it up first?12:22
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ctford0lol, guess not12:22
fimblosorry ctford0: did you back it up first?12:22
fimblo:)12:22
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fimblooops. just run grub again12:22
clintc_laptopDaSkreech: possibly... there needs to be a more obvious way to recover from turning off the menu... but then again it looks like a basic kde thing12:23
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DarkRavenMixagefirnblo i logged in >P12:23
clintc_laptopI have just moved from gnome to kde12:23
DarkRavenMixagenow i can use kubuntu i log out there and i log in from my pc12:23
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fimblodarkravenmixage: huh?12:23
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clintc_laptopDaSkreech: thanks again... I'll return later and try to help out someone else12:24
DaSkreechThanks!12:24
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Sannesokuban, ok, you're right, it just says it wants general X. So, I would first try the package xlibs-dev, which is a transitional package that depends on a lot of things: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/oldlibs/xlibs-dev12:25
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fimbloctford0: unless theres a nifty kubuntu tool for rebuilding your mbr, you'll need to run grub and reset it manually12:25
sokubanSanne: Ok, I'll go grab it12:25
visik7ah ah google earth use QT12:25
visik7ROCKS12:25
Sannesokuban, good luck12:25
dananyone can help me with a trouble in konqueror ?12:25
kkathmandan whats wrong?12:26
sokubanUmm, which one O_O12:26
danNow, i can't see any preview in konqueror12:26
nico8481DaSkreech: could you run "md5sum /var/cache/apt/archives/amarok_2%3a1.4.0a-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" for me please ?12:26
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kkathmanpreview?12:26
danpreview in ICON mode12:26
dantxt, pdf, audio, picture12:26
kkathmanhmm12:27
kkathmandan do you get an error?12:27
DaSkreechnico8481: 03991d64de03fef396d925d0842d0f7e12:27
danyou know what I tell about ?12:27
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Hhhhhhello guys, I'm trying to get mp3 playback working in kubuntu draper 64 bit, I followed the directions inthe Restricted Formats page of the wiki but amaroK doesn't play anything now12:27
danno,12:27
Hhhhhany ideas?12:27
bernierhow can i see which processes are runngin and kill them?12:27
kkathmandan are you talking about when you are in file manager mode?12:27
danHe just stop working12:27
nico8481damn it's identical :-/12:28
fimblobernier: to check process list: ps -ef12:28
Hhhhhbernier, type "ps x" as you'll see what's running.12:28
MidMarkbernier: ctrl+esc12:28
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bernierlol12:28
fimblobernier: to kill them, kill <pid>12:28
danyes file manager in ICON view mode12:28
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bernier3 different answer :P12:28
Hhhhhlook up the number (PID) of the process you wanna kill, and then type "kill $$$" where $$$ is that number12:28
fimblobernier: all three are correct12:28
DaSkreechnico8481: Helps?12:28
fimblojust different flavours12:28
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MidMarkbernier: I prefer gui mode always12:28
nico8481DaSkreech: nope, mine has the same sum :P12:29
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danand all preview are activated but i can't see12:29
kkathmandan ok... so you bring up a directory in icon view... so what are you trying to do12:29
fimblothe wonders of linux is that we have the power of choosing ourselves whats best for us :)12:29
kkathmanlike.. click an icon and see it?12:29
dani want to show the preview of the file12:29
DaSkreechnico8481: Did you try a purge and reinstall?12:29
danbefore he worked but now ...not12:30
nico8481yup12:30
Sannesokuban, I figure you're building zsnes? Are you aware that it's in the uubuntu respoitories?12:30
kkathmandan - right click... then.. preview in....12:30
berniercomment puis-je enlever un package que jai installer avec apt-get en ligne de commande?12:30
sokubanSanne: IT IS?!?!?!?!12:30
nico8481DaSkreech: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128946 <- discribed all i did there12:30
danno i know that ;)12:30
danlol12:30
Sannesokuban, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=zsnes&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all12:30
kkathmandan, or if you just click, it will usually show in the panel12:30
danbut in ICON mode , start konqueror file manager12:30
kkathmanat least mine does12:30
sokubanI want to jump off a cliff now, thanks Sanne12:30
bernierhow can i ermove a package i installed with apt-get in the konsole12:31
nico8481bernier: apt-get remove nom_du_package12:31
dantry it yourself12:31
kkathmanright.. I have icon mode right now...and have a graphics directory .. I click the item and it appears in the panel12:31
chavokkathman, he's talking about the mini previews of media files in icon mode12:31
danstart konqueror file-manager mode12:31
bernierthanks12:31
Bassettsanyone in here know how to make gnome have an option to save the session like kde?12:31
Bassettsi want the option though, not for it to just do it12:31
Sannesokuban hehe :)12:31
kkathmandan yea...mine works fine12:31
chavoBassetts, it should do it automatically already12:31
danthen so in a folder with picture, you see all picture preview12:32
Bassettschavo: gnome doesnt, in breezy there was the option to, in dapper it doesnt12:32
danme not12:32
kkathmandan yes, in icon view, in a folder with pictures, I see tiny renderings of the photo12:32
danthat right ! it's my trouble, mine stop working12:33
kkathmandan   then when I click...the picture opens in that panel12:33
kkathmandan double check that your file associations are ok12:33
dani know when i click, but i want to see the tiny rendering of photo12:33
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kkathmandan - kcontrol - KDE Components - File associations12:33
danhe work when i click, he open , but my trouble is with the tiny rendering preview12:34
kkathmandan:  do what I said above12:34
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danoki, I'll go to see12:34
kkathmanheh.. in my directory, I just hover over the tiny picture and I get an automatica preview12:34
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Hhhhhcan anyone give me a hand? I installed libxine-extracodecs in kubuntu draper 64-bits and amaroK still won't play audio files12:34
berniernow how can i edit which process runs at boot?12:35
Hhhhhnot only mp3, but no .ra or .wma either12:35
danand then ??12:35
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kkathmandan - also for picture directories, I'd suggest trying "Image view"12:35
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DaSkreechNight12:35
danyep, i known about image view too, not bad ;)12:35
fimblogood night12:36
danbut i want to see tiny rendering of PDF file too, TXT file too12:36
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kkathmandan I dunno about the renderings of the txt files12:36
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kkathmanif you hover over them you get it12:36
stefrehi all12:36
danbut you see the tiny rendering of TXT and PDF file ?12:37
kkathmanno12:37
kkathmanonly when you hover over it do you see the rendering12:37
kkathmanbut you DO see it then12:37
dani know, but mine before i can see the tiny one too12:38
berniernow how can i edit which process runs at boot?12:38
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danits the same thing with you go over a MP3 file, he start to play for a preview12:38
kkathmanyes12:39
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LiteHedd1dok I did the upgrade12:40
fimbloanyone have experience of nfs mounting /home onto several machines?12:40
LiteHedd1ddo I have to reboot?12:40
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sokubanSanne: I must be an idiot, because I can't even install it from the package http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1561812:40
TheHighChildLiteHedd1d: I would make sure you still have your kubuntu-desktop package first12:41
danOKi its' working again !12:41
danthanks....12:41
[BU] Brizzhas anyone tried the new Google Earth Beta with Linux support?12:41
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LiteHeddedhow do I do that thehighchild12:41
stefrecan i ask technical issue here ?12:41
TheHighChild[BU] Brizz: yeah12:41
Sannesokuban, looking12:41
[BU] BrizzTheHighChild: did you install it as a user or root?12:41
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TheHighChildLiteHedded: I would do a 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' in a terminal. if nothing happens, then you have it. if it starts installing, let it. With a dist-upgrade, it removes the package for some folks. When they reboot, they don't get a gui and get scared12:42
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TheHighChild[BU] Brizz: Just regular user. You'll need to chmod u+x though because it's a binary file12:42
danI dont know in english but in french is: COmposant KDE, gestionnaire de fichier then Apercu et Mtadonnes12:42
TheHighChild[BU] Brizz: just mv it where you want it 'chmod u+x Google]  then execute it with './Google'12:43
Sannesokuban, you will have better luck to install the packe with adept/synaptic/apt/aptitude package manager, because dpkg doesn't automatically resolve dependencies like those others.12:43
dansome choice in that have "disparue"12:43
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[BU] BrizzTheHighChild: when it asks where you want to install it to, did you just indicate where root would typically install it?12:43
sokubanHow do you that? >_>12:43
LiteHeddedwhat's the command to upgrade again?12:44
sokubanDo I right click open with Adept or something?12:44
Sannesokuban, did you already install from the repositories with one of those package managers?12:44
TheHighChild[BU] Brizz: No, it gave me a default location in my home directory '/home/myusername/google-earth. I changed it to '/home/myusername/.google-earth because I want it hidden. I also created the symbolic link in my home dir. Then to execute it you type './google-earth'12:45
TheHighChild!upgrade12:45
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)12:45
sokubanI used apt-get for all my installing but for some reason I can't use it with zsnes. I have never used Adept before '_'12:45
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Sannesokuban, apt-get is fine. Why can't you use it for zsnes? What's the output?12:45
sokubanit can't find it and tells me to try apt-get -f (I think its -f, might have been -k)12:46
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Sannesokuban, if it can't find it, but you saw it on packages.ubuntu.com, it usually means that you need to enable the universe and/or multiverse repositories.12:47
[BU] BrizzTheHighChild: I hate installing crap in my home directory :)12:47
sokubanI did that, I can pastebin my sources.list12:47
edneymatiassee ya!12:47
Sannesokuban, yes, please do that.12:47
[BU] BrizzTheHighChild: I like to install it to the system paths as root and give it user rights, but that doesn't seem to work with Google Earth12:47
bernierhow can i edit which process runs at boot?12:47
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[BU] BrizzTheHighChild: in fact, I got a bunch of error just now trying to install it in my home directory and it recommended me to run it as root12:48
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sokubanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1561912:48
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TheHighChild[BU] Brizz: not sure man. i didn't play with it much, just a quick install like 5 minutes before you asked.12:49
[BU] BrizzTheHighChild: blast :) hehe12:49
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[BU] BrizzTheHighChild: ironically, it runs fine as root. I get this symlink: permission denied" error when trying to run it12:49
Sannesokuban, looking (please remember to type my name so I get alerted when you reply)12:50
TheHighChildThey have Picasa available to work with Wine now too12:50
[BU] Brizzyah I saw that12:50
[BU] Brizzand it worked fine12:50
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TheHighChild[BU] Brizz: Are you trying to run it with sudo?12:50
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[BU] BrizzTheHighChild: no, I have done that and it works as sudo, but not as my regular user12:50
[BU] BrizzTheHighChild: I tried changing the permissions on the symbolic link and the file it linked to, but it gave me the same error12:50
LiteHeddedthis update-manager works for kubuntu?12:51
LiteHeddedi think it wants to install ubuntu12:51
[BU] BrizzTheHighChild: so I'm guessing that it is doing something in the binary file that I don't have permission to do...12:51
TheHighChild[BU] Brizz: Did you install with sudo?12:51
Sannesokuban, yeah, looks good. Did you do: sudo apt-get update12:51
[BU] BrizzTheHighChild: yeah... I also tried installing it as my regular user account12:51
sokubanyes, the thing I typed in was 'sudo apt-get install zsnes' is that the package name or is it something else?12:52
sokubanSanne: oops forgot your name >_>12:52
LiteHeddedanyone?12:53
TheHighChildLiteHedded: What's up?12:53
LiteHeddedthis update-manager works for kubuntu?12:53
LiteHeddedi think it wants to install ubuntu12:53
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TheHighChildLiteHedded: what manager are we talking about?12:53
h3sp4wnsokuban: The zsnes WIP runs alot faster with SDL (i.e at 1280 by 1024)12:53
LiteHeddedfrom !upgrade12:53
LiteHeddedit tells me to install the update-manager package12:53
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h3sp4wnsokuban: The version of zsnes in dapper is very old12:54
Sannesokuban, that's correct, I just simulated install and got no complaints. Maybe you have partially installed packages now that apt doesn't like. Can you give me the output of 'sudo apt-get install zsnes'?12:54
TheHighChildLiteHedded: hmmm. When I did an upgrade I used apt-get 'apt-get dist-upgrade'12:54
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bernierhow can i edit which process runs at boot?12:54
MitjaHi! When I switch desktops the list is not shown. Any ideas how to turn it on?12:54
sokubanOh! I do have a partially installed zsnes. I compiled it from source but I screwed up and it was broken, I thought it could overwrite it.12:54
sokubansorry Sanne, but is the dapper one usable?12:55
TheHighChildMitja: You don't see the virtual desktop in your bar?12:55
h3sp4wnhttp://files.ipherswipsite.com/zsnes/ZSNESS_0527.tar.bz2 is the one you want12:55
TheHighChildMitja: or when you ctrl + tab they don't cycle through?12:55
Sannesokuban, no, usually hand compiled packages get installed to a different place (/usr/local...) than the files from the repos.12:55
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MitjaTheHighChild, they cycle, but there's is no list displayed.12:55
Sannesokuban, but first please let me see the output of the apt command, ok?12:56
sokubanSanne: doing it12:56
TheHighChildMitja: That is odd. I would check Kmenu > System Settings > regional & accessibility > keyboard shortcuts and make sure they are mapped12:56
LiteHeddedok i did dist-upgrade12:57
LiteHeddeddo I reboot?12:57
MitjaTheHighChild, ctrl+tab works, just the list doesn't show up12:57
sokubanSanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1562112:58
Sannesokuban, ok12:58
TheHighChildLiteHedded: After a dist-upgrade is finished. You'll want to reboot or restart your xserver. If your system doesn't come bakc up. Sswtich to a failsafe terminal (ctrl + alt+ f1) and login. Try 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' if your x doesn't start.12:58
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MidMarkgoogle earth for linux -> http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html12:59
georgebluntn8 all12:59
Sannesokuban, hmmm, your package system seems to be a bit out of order. I never did that, but usually you should do what apt tells you (apt-get -f install). But before you do that, maybe somebody esle could have a look and recommend a procedure? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1562101:02
sokubanSanne: then it wants me to install some wierd thing, but then when I say yes to it it gives me an error01:03
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LiteHeddedi restarted x01:03
LiteHeddedit still says kubuntu 5.10 on my start menu01:03
Sannesokuban, which weird thing, and which error? (Sorry, without seeing the output I won't know how to help... I know it's annoying)01:04
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LiteHeddedshouldn't it be different for dapper?01:04
MitjaLiteHedded, 6.06 I guess01:05
LiteHeddedso what do I do. restarting x didn't work01:05
sokubanSanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1562201:06
Sannesokuban, ok01:07
byendoes anyone know how i can increase the size of the window list on the taskbar. mine are too small01:07
byeni mean the size of the window botton01:07
Sannesokuban, it tries to install the needed dependencies, but fails because you have something amiss with your package system. I think line 23 (5 not fully installed or removed) could be the problem. But I never had this situation, so please could somebody else have a look? I don't know how to help further.01:10
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chavobyen, you have to edit ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc underneath the [General]  section add this ->MaximumButtonWidth=01:10
sokubanSanne: I have dinner, I'll be idling (and I eat really fast) so if anyone knows what to do tell me (and put sokuban in the post so I get an alert)01:10
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Sannesokuban, ok, enjoy your meal :)01:11
byenchavo: awesome thanks!01:11
MitjaLiteHedded, can you download iso and burn it to cd? It worked for me.01:11
chavothen just run -> dcop kicker kicker restart01:11
h3sp4wnsokuban: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all01:11
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Bibinshello01:12
stefrehi01:12
Kadranhi does any one know a program that is simmilar to paltalk?01:13
byenthanks you chavo can i also use MinimumButtonWidth?01:15
chavobyen, no01:15
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byenok.. so what should it be like? 80 @ chavo01:16
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byeni will try it out... thanks chavo01:17
chavobyen, I put mine at 440 takes about half the screen01:17
chavoon 1280x102401:17
byenooh... ok chavo thanks :P01:17
byeni will try 300 as mine is 1024x728\01:17
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byenbrb.. restart kde01:18
MidMarkgoogle earth for linux rocks!01:18
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KadranMidMark: did they make one?01:19
MidMarkyes! 4.0 beta is out!01:19
MidMarkgoogle earth for linux -> http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html01:20
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Kadranoh yeah go linux go :), i am gonna try it now01:20
Kadranthanks01:20
h3sp4wnIt only seems to run as root for me that google earth01:20
MidMarkKadran: it will impress you, run smootly like windows version01:20
h3sp4wnOtherwise I get symlink: Permission denied01:21
Kadrani hated it when it work with wine01:21
MidMarkh3sp4wn: what?01:21
h3sp4wncan you run google earth as a normal user ?01:22
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MidMarkh3sp4wn: mmm no, installed with sudo01:23
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sokubanh3sp4wn: I tried what you said, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15626 and don't mind the close wrapping near the top, sorry01:23
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Kadrandoes any one know a linux alternative for paltalk?01:26
Kadranto have voice chat?01:26
ErtainAre there many current KDE programs in Kubuntu?  All I need to get them is to set apt-get and download them through a mirror?01:26
h3sp4wnsokuban: Go into interactive aptitude by sudo aptitude01:26
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osirisKadran, you could look into teamspeak01:28
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Kadranthanks osiris01:29
MidMarkh3sp4wn: any idea to make google earth works also for user?01:31
SanneErtain, yes, you should get them with apt-get (or Adept, or Synaptic, or aptitude...). Which ones are available, you can check out at packages.ubuntu.com.01:31
h3sp4wnMidMark: I asked you first .....01:31
MidMarkh3sp4wn: ops :)01:31
ErtainSanne: Right-o then.  I'll take a look at that site.01:31
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SanneErtain, you can also search with: apt-cache search <searchstring>, but this only searches in the repositories you have enabled.01:32
sokubanh3sp4wn: How do I remove the package? It won't let me and complains about how it needs to be installed to fulfil unmet dependancies01:32
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Jack_SparrowYo Ho01:33
h3sp4wnsokuban: What happens if you go on actions install and remove packages ?01:33
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chavoMidMark, I got googleearth to run as user. I installed it in my ~ but all the files were owned by root, then I just sudo chown chavo .google-earth -R and I can run it01:35
sokubanh3sp4wn: the thing talks about how these packages are going to be installed for dependancies, but umm how do you delete it? I tried '-' '!' but I don't think that is what I want to use, as the thing isn't even installed.01:36
TheHighChildAny folks know of problems playing cd's on dapper?01:36
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DarkRavenMixagehow to set another language in kubuntu?? i can see only us english in the list...01:36
h3sp4wnsokuban: What is the name of the package ?01:36
MidMarkchavo: I know but I don't want to install for N users in my system :)01:37
TheHighChildDarkRavenMixage: You'll probably need to get the language packs01:37
sokubanh3sp4wn: libsdl1.2debian-all01:37
h3sp4wnsukuban: sudo dpkg -P libsdl1.2debian-all01:38
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MidMarkh3sp4wn: with googleearth %f starts but fails to create its own dirs... continuing to try01:39
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DarkRavenMixagethehighchild i try to reinstall01:40
DarkRavenMixagethem01:40
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Raven301New to kubuntu, making the switch from Mandriva ...01:40
Raven301How do I get to the hardware settings (eg sound card driver info or to change it)??01:40
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MidMarkchavo: you have right, just change .google-earth owner01:42
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MidMarkh3sp4wn: change .google-earth owner with your user in your home01:42
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h3sp4wnMidMark: It does work if you just install it as your user01:44
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MidMarkh3sp4wn: nope I have installed via sudo and changed the owner of .google-earth in the home and it works01:45
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MidMarkh3sp4wn: of course it works installing via user, but it works only for that user ;)01:46
h3sp4wnMidMark: Only me uses this computer01:46
Hhhhhquestion: how do I get nexuiz's sound working properly?01:46
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MidMarkh3sp4wn: anyway I prefer not installing software in my home01:46
h3sp4wnMidMark: At least it has an uninstall program01:47
h3sp4wnMidMark: Or script01:47
MidMarkh3sp4wn: where?01:47
TheHighChildAnyone have trouble with Kate not starting from the command line?01:47
h3sp4wnMidMark: /usr/local/google-earth/uninstall01:48
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MidMarkh3sp4wn: yes but I prefere deb file, they have uninstall too :)01:48
Healotstarting "kate"  from terminal... no01:48
h3sp4wnMidMark: I don't like using checkinstall (would rather just install it manually) debuild is alot better than that though really (and my preferred way)01:49
h3sp4wnMidMark: is there a deb of google earth (i.e made properly ?)01:50
MidMarkh3sp4wn: haven't seen for now01:51
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chavoOk I figured out how to install and let users run it01:53
chavorun -> sudo sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin --nochown01:53
chavothen you can put it in /usr/local and still run it as user01:54
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chavoIf you have a lot of ram and diskspace go to the config and crank up the cache to the max01:55
james_xxxhow would i go about accessing xorg.conf?01:56
james_xxxsudo nano xorg.conf?01:56
chavojames_xxx, that'll work01:57
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james_xxxchavo: ty01:58
Raven301What is the command for the Control Center in Kubuntu??01:58
h3sp4wnkcontrol01:59
james_xxxactually, when i sudo nano xorg.conf..... i don't get xorg.conf lol02:00
h3sp4wnsudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:00
james_xxxahhh02:00
james_xxxty h3sp4wn02:00
Raven301h3sp4wn: I've switched from Mandriva, there it was MCC .. Looking for the section to change drivers for sound card etc??02:00
Raven301h3sp4wn: so is that still kcontrol?02:01
h3sp4wnRaven301: The sound stuff should be done automatically02:01
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h3sp4wnRaven301: What do you mean by change drivers is the wrong driver being loaded or do you have 2 soundcards02:01
Raven301h3sp4wn: looking to see what driver is loaded02:02
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stnSystem Information for    [ antrax ] 02:02
stnOS/Kernel                 Linux 2.6.12-10-38602:02
stnCPU Info                  AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ 2162.800 Mhz   4276.22 Bogomips02:02
stnHD Info                   200GB total storage capacity02:02
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h3sp4wnRaven301: Is sound not working ?02:03
visik7googleearth for linux gtk installer app in qt02:03
visik7lol02:03
Raven301h3sp4wn: yes but I'm trying something out and need to see what driver it's using ... New to kubuntu ... Switch from Mandriva today02:04
Raven301h3sp4wn: in mandriva i just typed mcc and the control center came up and I could change drivers setup the firewall etc02:05
stnwho install the xgl program02:06
h3sp4wnRaven301: cat /proc/asound/cards && ls -R /proc/asound/card0/ should tell you what you need to know02:06
stnfor dapperr02:06
leafw!xgl02:06
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:06
visik7!aiglx02:06
ubotu[aiglx]  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14506802:06
Raven301h3sp4wn: ok thanks but is there something like mcc for kubuntu?02:07
stnubuntu02:07
stnno02:07
stnkubuntu02:07
h3sp4wnRaven301: I don't know what mcc is02:07
leafwstn : same thing.02:07
stnhave a lite diferences02:07
stnis no same02:07
stnthe program compiz02:08
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stny not same in kubuntu to ubuntu02:08
Raven301it's the control center where you can change modem net info drivers hard drive info etc02:08
h3sp4wnRaven301: Don't know I just use the standard linux tools - System Settings is probably about the closest02:09
Raven301h3sp4wn: It's using oss the sound card ... I want it to use alsa ... how would I change  it??02:09
RaitoFor some reason, with Ktorrent the download stops and it gives me Error: Error: Reading past the end of the file /home/raito/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor0/cache/nameoffileintorrent What happened?02:09
h3sp4wnRaven301: How do you know it is supported by alsa ?02:09
Raven301be I've used it before and that is what I need for testing E17 module02:10
h3sp4wnRaven301: How do you know that it is using oss ?02:10
Raven301the command you gave me02:10
h3sp4wnjust because oss_mixer is there it doesn't mean you are using oss02:11
Raven301h3sp4wn: oh ... ok ... but System Settings is what i'm looking for thanks02:11
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h3sp4wnTry running aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav (if that works alsa is working)02:12
Raven301h3sp4wn: thanks ... so aplay is for alsa?02:14
h3sp4wnarecord, aplay - command-line sound recorder and player for ALSA soundcard driver (first line of man aplay)02:15
Raven301h3sp4wn: big thanks :)02:15
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bojani just upgraded to dapper02:21
bojanand its really messed up =[02:21
bojanlike nothing shows up in my taskbar02:21
bojanthere were no buttons in it02:22
bojanand i had to add the buttons (Kmenu etc...) manually02:22
bojanand no applications show up in it02:22
bojanif I minimize an app I have to Alt+Tab to it to get it back02:22
bojananyone know whats up?02:22
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Sannebojan, I don't know what's happened to you, but you could add the taskbar applet back to the panel by right clicking -> add to panel02:24
bojani did that02:24
Sanneoh02:24
bojanbut for example i have konversation open now, there is no item in the taskbar for konversation02:24
bojank nvm02:25
bojanmy kicker was completely messed for some reason02:25
Sannebojan, did you get it worked out?02:25
bojanyes i think so02:26
Sannebojan, what did you do (so I know what to do if it happens to me)?02:26
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bojani added taskbar as u said02:26
bojani thought i already did that though02:27
bojansorry02:27
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bojanso i did it again02:27
Sannebojan, ah, ok, no worries :)02:27
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ryanakca"68020 processor or better" = 686?02:38
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SurfnKidwhoa02:39
SurfnKidI guess this is better than xubuntu02:39
SurfnKidthats a lot of people02:39
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ryanakcaSurfnKid: just because more people use it doesn't mean it's better...02:40
SurfnKidgood point02:40
SurfnKidthats why im in xubuntu02:40
SurfnKid:)02:40
ryanakcathis about it... More people use windows... but that doesn't make it better than linux... :)02:40
SurfnKidmakes it more dependent02:40
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bleakedhow might one do a system wide dependency check and fix?  (preferably with aptitude)02:42
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kkathmandependency check??? hmm dont know why you'd need that02:43
kkathmanwhen you install, it does that at the same time02:44
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bleakedkkathman: well, you see, i turned a good friend onto *ubuntu.. he played with both livecds, my tricked out kde pc, and still decided on a gnome-centric desktop.. so whatever, i encouraged it and he installed.  since he's new to linux, i have had to help him out a little bit.. for somethings i needed to know the gnome desktop, so i installed the ubuntu-desktop package for this purpous.  time has passed and i need not help him, and so since02:48
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bleakedmake sense?02:49
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bleakedkkathman: did you get my msg?02:52
kkathmanyes02:52
kkathmanwell if you installed everything to completion...including the gnome, I dont think you should have any issues02:53
bleakedkkathman: ok, i just saw my own quit msg and i wasn't sure if it went through..02:53
kkathmanonly if you have hard-installed some other component, or compiled your own..etc02:53
kkathmanthere might be a compatibility, but you'd probably know by now02:53
kkathmanworse case, copy your $HOME over to a cd or something and reinstall...its not that big of a deal :)02:54
becsterAnyone know of a workaround for the sharing module in kcontrol? To get it working etc?02:54
bleakedanother question for the channel.. when i had kde installed on my deb box, in konq, there was an option to split the view into two windows.. (i see how to do that in kubuntu), but you could also turn one of the split views into a terminal that was linked to actions you did in the graphical file browser..02:55
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kkathmanhowdy Snake :)02:55
Snakekkathman: heyy02:56
Snakekkathman: spending more time in here?02:56
kkathmanSnake:  sigh...Im always here, in #suse and in ##windows :)02:56
kkathmanI run all three02:56
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Snakekkathman: I know, but you seem to be chillin in here more :)02:57
Snakekkathman: as you did see me come in (unless your constantly rotating your screen)02:58
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kkathmanSnake:  I have kvirc so I dont need to rotate the screens..I see them all at once03:00
kkathmanI dont like that tabbed stuff03:00
kkathmanlike Konversation03:00
Snakekkathman: ahh gotcha03:00
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Snakekkathman: yes them evil evil tabs :P03:01
kkathmanheh03:01
DaSkreechSnake: The kwin tabs?03:01
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kkathmanwb Snake03:09
hybridSnake: nice disco03:09
Snakekkathman: sorry I got pwned by a n00b that said /disco would make a neat ascii art thing.03:09
kkathmanuh oh03:09
kkathmanlol03:09
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RawSewagehttp://earth.google.com/03:11
bojani have no soundi have no sound in dapper now =[volumes seem ok. sound settings same as before. any ideas?03:12
RawSewagenew version of Google Earth released today, and first time native Linux version03:12
DaSkreechWorld Wind03:13
CheeseBurgerManRawSewage: Yep. And it works on amd64. :P03:13
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RawSewageI dont have 64 bit03:14
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CheeseBurgerManRawSewage: Maybe not, but I do, and sometimes things need a bit of convincing to run. :)03:14
RawSewagejust think of yourself as a pioneer03:15
CheeseBurgerManlol03:15
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MitjaWhat's the postfix for konqueror to open a new tab?03:19
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DaSkreechMitja: Sorry?03:21
Mitjakonqueror %u opens a new konqueror, what opens a new tab inside already opened konqueror?03:22
DaSkreechAh.. Not sure03:23
MitjaHow can setup default mount point for removable media like usbdisk?03:24
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kkathmanMitja:  you'll need to set your browser settings to open in the current window03:25
kkathmanat least that works in FFox and Opera03:25
CheeseBurgerMankkathman: In opera you can do 'opera --newtab' to get a new tab. Dunno about Firefox/Konqueror03:26
kkathmangosh I never really worried...just set the settings in the browser...works for me :)03:26
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HealotMitja: you can set the entry manually in fstab03:29
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MitjaHealot, I can03:30
Healotbut the device name might change...03:30
MitjaHealot, how often?03:30
Healotso I suggest to keep it dynamic...03:30
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jagchhi, i'm new to linux, and created another account for my wife, but in that account I can not mount the hard/usb drives ... is something related to permissions?03:30
HealotMitja: if you pull the device off and plug it in back without properly umounting the device03:31
Healotbut if you're sure the device name doesn't change, then you can keep the entry in fstab03:31
MitjaSpeaking of umounting, how do I create an icon on the destkop?03:31
DaSkreechjagch: How do you mount drives in your account?03:31
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jagchwell, in my account they are mounted when kubuntu starts03:32
DrBairMitja: the new account will need to be in the plugdev group03:32
Healotin KDE, you can add Device icon manually... and add the entry of a device listed in fstab03:32
DaSkreechjagch: ah.03:33
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DrBairjagch: last one was for you, sorry03:33
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Snake__kkathman: you here03:33
Snake__kkathman: come on!! ping ping ping!03:34
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jagchwhen i switch to the another session i can see the hard drives, but only can read the one where kubuntu is installed03:34
KadranMidMark: hi03:35
MitjaHealot, thank you03:36
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DaSkreechhahaha!!onehundredeleven!!03:36
DaSkreechBeats of Rage is released for Linux :-)03:37
Snake__DaSkreech: whats that03:37
newuserAKdoes anybody know what "mrv8k: probe of 0000:07:00.0 failed with error -2" means when im trying to access my pcmcia wifi card?03:37
DaSkreechhttp://www.senileteam.com/borinfo.php03:37
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Snake__DaSkreech: cool03:39
DaSkreechYeah03:39
Snake__I half wish I had a dance pad for stepmania03:39
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RawSewagehow do you install a .bin file again03:44
RawSewage!bin03:44
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ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RawSewage03:44
RawSewage!.bin03:44
ubotuRawSewage: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:44
DaSkreechRawSewage: try ./file.bin03:45
RawSewagety03:45
RawSewageno03:45
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MitjaAnybody knows where are removable media settings?03:46
CheeseBurgerManRawSewage: Make sure you make it executable.03:46
RawSewageoh03:46
jagchcorrection... i created a new user, when i login as that user i can see hard/usb drives (they indicate to be mounted), but i'm not allowed to read their content ... anyone can help me?03:46
RawSewageok ty03:46
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imbrandonmenmel03:48
imbrandonis gonna die03:49
imbrandonhaha03:49
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svivianGood evening all, having a problem with 6.06 display configuration: When I go in to configure the screen configuration, I click Administrator mode, start making modification, everything seems to be fine, but I can't apply any of my changes. I have an ATI FireGL card (which was apparently detected properly), and have dual monitors (I am trying to set it up as one wide screen).03:49
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kyle_Hey, how do I reinstall the boot menu? it wants to boot into windows all the time03:53
sviviankyle_: Edit /boot/grub/menu.list03:53
sviviankyle_: Count the number of "title"s you see, starting at 0, until you reach the WIndows line, then change the Default number to that number you reached. Save, and reboot (you will need to sudo in order to edit that file).03:55
RawSewageGoogle Earth is running me in slow software mode03:55
DrBairRawSewage: got video drivers?03:55
RawSewageyes, it worked on Windows03:56
DrBairRawSewage: but do you have video drivers installed in linux?03:56
RawSewageI guess not03:56
HealotRawSewage: you enabled 3D acceleration?03:56
RawSewagehow do I do that03:56
RawSewageno03:56
DrBairwhat vid card do you have?03:56
Healotdepends on what graphics adapter you have03:56
RawSewageI dont know03:56
RawSewagehow do I find out03:57
DrBairrun lspci and look for it in there03:57
DrBairin a terminal window03:57
RawSewageok03:57
Healotor just open the KDE Info Center03:57
DrBairthat too...03:57
HealotX server section03:57
RawSewage0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200]  (rev a3)03:57
DrBairi wish i knew how to make ubotu do stuff03:58
RawSewageI navigated to the KDE control module for hardware03:58
DrBair!nvidia03:59
ubotunvidia is probably Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia03:59
Healotthat one...03:59
DrBairwow, i am just good03:59
DrBair:-)03:59
DrBairRawSewage: check out the link03:59
RawSewagethe generic NVIDIA GEForce4 driver is already installed03:59
DrBairuse adept instead of synaptic obviously04:00
RawSewagethe generic NVIDIA GEForce4 driver is already installed.  should I still visit that link?04:00
DrBairthe generic driver does not have 3D acceleration04:00
RawSewageok04:00
RawSewageIm at the list of drivers I can use04:00
RawSewageI just need to know which one to choose04:01
RawSewageok, I'll follow the instructions on that page.  ty04:01
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kwtmHow do I get rid of Katapult?  It keeps intercepting my favourite key combination, Alt-Space.04:02
imbrandonsudo apt-get --purge remove katapult04:03
RawSewageyou dont have to get rid of it.  just go to the menu editor, select Katapult, and it gives you options04:03
DrBairkwtm: or just killall katapult04:03
svivianGood evening all, having a problem with 6.06 display configuration: When I go in to configure the screen configuration, I click Administrator mode, start making modification, everything seems to be fine, but I can't apply any of my changes. I have an ATI FireGL card (which was apparently detected properly), and have dual monitors (I am trying to set it up as one wide screen).04:03
DaSkreechkwtm: Alt+space04:03
DaSkreechThen Ctrl+C04:03
DaSkreechchange the shortcut key to something else04:03
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kwtmDaSkreech, DrBair, imbrandon: Thanks.  Didn't know that.  RawSewage: Tell me more.  Katapult is in the menu?  I can't find it anywhere; it seems to have insinuated itself into the system.  I think it's useful, if only I could change the activating key combo.04:04
RawSewageUtilities04:05
DaSkreechkwtm: Follow my instructions04:05
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CayouHi guys, Screensaver not turning on here, happenned to anyone?04:05
kwtmDaSkreech: Will try.04:05
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DrBair Cayou: do you have the start automatically checkbox checked?04:06
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RawSewagefollow DaSkreech's instructions then04:06
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CayouDrBair: Yes, but it doesn't start..04:07
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kwtmDaSkreech, RawSewage: Thank you!  I have been tearing my hair out.  It would be nice if it showed up on the system tray (which I have now set it to do) so that I can at least get a context menu.04:07
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RawSewageI think the Alt+Space might be hard-coded04:07
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RawSewagenow that I look at it04:08
kwtmRawSewage: No, I have changed it to Win+Space04:08
DaSkreechRawSewage: Doubt it04:08
RawSewageok04:08
DrBairCayou: does it go to a blank screen when it should pull up the screen saver?04:08
DaSkreechTry Alt+Space then Ctrl+C04:08
kwtmRawSewage: It makes much more sense to make window management key combos use the Win key, since otherwise the key is completely useless.  I have no idea what the Windows users use it for.04:08
CayouDrBair: No, it just doesn't do anything04:08
RawSewagecool04:08
RawSewageWindows pops up the Start Menu I think04:09
Ultrannosaurhey DaSkreech04:09
CaBlGuY!seen Hobsee04:09
ubotui haven't seen 'hobsee', CaBlGuY04:09
Ultrannosaurthis is AMEGALUSX if you're wondering04:09
DaSkreechYup?04:09
imbrandon!seen hobbsee04:09
ubotuhobbsee <n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-offtopic, 10h 38m 29s ago, saying: '@time sydney'.04:09
kwtmDaSkreech: good call.  KDE is so infinitely configurable, which is why I chose it over GNOME.04:09
DaSkreechAh04:09
DaSkreechI Was :)04:09
CaBlGuYHmmm  she's slippin..  :p04:09
Ultrannosaurlol04:09
NthDegreekwtm windows use Windows Key + M for minimise all windows, pressing it on it's own brings up start menu, and Windows Key + E calls up windows explorer (file manager part)04:10
DaSkreechYeah sometimes a pain in the butt configurable04:10
Ultrannosaurand this isnt even the name i wanted...im usiing windows mirc right now04:10
DaSkreechHaha :)04:10
DaSkreechok04:10
kwtmDaSkreech: Yes, but you can configure to be a pain in your Left Butt, your Right Butt, or your Cigarette Butt.04:10
CaBlGuYyur in winblowz ....   Sawwree d00d..04:10
CaBlGuY;)04:10
DaSkreechkwtm: At least you can choose what kolour pain in the butt :)04:10
DaSkreechUltrannosaur: Whats Up?04:10
DrBairCayou: does it work if you test the screensaver?04:11
CaBlGuYimbrandon, got a sec??04:11
CayouDrBair: yes, perfectly04:11
Ultrannosauri dont even know how to change my name04:11
imbrandonsup CaBlGuY04:11
imbrandonUltrannosaur, /nick <new name>04:11
CheeseBurgerManUltrannosaur: /nick <nick>04:11
CheeseBurgerManDang it, I'm slow. :)04:11
imbrandon;)04:11
kwtmHey, didn't my system tray use to have two rows, so that four icons could fit onto a square?  How come all the icons are in a horizontal row now and taking up precious screen real estate?04:12
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Official_CDaSkreech: thanks04:12
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CaBlGuYimbrandon well, I got access to my slave win. partition but I don't have permision to write or save stuff to it. Can ya guide me thorugh that??  or point me in the right direction....04:12
FreshPrincehi @ all04:12
DaSkreechCool though I didn't help with that :)04:12
imbrandonkwtm, adjust the height of kicker in systemsettings --> appearance04:12
CaBlGuYgreets FreshPrince04:12
FreshPrincedoes anybody use kubuntu on a notebook?04:12
Official_Chaha, my bad, read the wrong name04:12
kwtmimbrandon: will try.  Thx04:13
Official_Cthank you CHeeseburgerman04:13
imbrandonCaBlGuY, sure04:13
CaBlGuYnot on a notebook..   nope..04:13
CheeseBurgerManFreshPrince: I do.04:13
CayouAnyone has problems with Screensaver?04:13
kkathmanCayou what kind of probs?04:13
CheeseBurgerManNotebook, and AMD64...I guess I like challenges. :)04:13
CayouIt doesnt start04:14
kkathmanCayou:  you have to make sure your power mgmt is on04:14
FreshPrinceCheeseBurgerMan: it doesnt suck with kde on a laptop?.. because u must klick around with the touch screen.. doesn sucks?04:14
kkathmanits a little known quirk in KDE04:14
kwtmimbrandon: Kicker height not found in System Settings > Appearance.  Do you mean System Settings > Panel?  I guess I could adjust the size of the panel, but I hadn't touched it before, and I don't want it too large...04:14
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CheeseBurgerManFreshPrince: I disabled the tap-to-click.04:14
Cayoukkathman: how?04:14
kkathmanCayou:  just turn on your display power management and run the times as high as you can04:14
imbrandonkwtm, just make it < 48pix to make two rows of icons04:14
FreshPrinceCheeseBurgerMan: how u mean?04:15
kwtmimbrandon: ok, will try04:15
kkathmanCayou:  rt click the desktop, configure desktop...choose display and then the power mgmt tab04:15
CheeseBurgerManFreshPrince: When I tap my touchpad, the laptop doesn't interpret it as a left click. By default, it does.04:15
CayouI don't get the power mgmt tab04:15
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kkathmanCayou  its called Power Control04:16
LiteHeddedok i did the dist-upgrade and I dont think it worked04:16
Cayoukkathman : do you mean the option to turn the monitor off after a set time? (Power Saving)?04:16
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kkathmanCayou:  Right click the desktop, choose "Configure Desktop".. on the left choose DISPLAY...then go to the Power control tab04:17
kkathmanthen enable power control04:17
Cayoukkathman : there is no DISPLAY :(04:17
kkathmanWHAT??04:17
kwtmimbrandon: Damn, making the panel thinner doesn't make the system tray (is that same as "kicker", or is "kicker" the whole panel?) take up two rows.  I tried making it thicker, thick enough that now the taskbar is three rows by n columns, and still the system tray is only one single horizontal row of icons.  Is there some way of adjust the icon size itself?  I'll have to look around.04:17
kkathmanCayou:  what happens when you right click on the desktop?04:17
CayouI got : Background, Behavior, Multiple Desktops and Screen Saver04:18
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LiteHeddedok i did the dist-upgrade and I dont think it worked04:19
kkathmanhmm04:19
kkathmanweird04:19
Cayoukkathman: I did find a Power Saving tab under System Settings in the menu, the only option there is to turn off the monitor after a set period of time04:19
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Sebastianhey, i had a partition for windows and another for kubuntu, i remember i had downloaded some drive so i could open the kubuntu partition from windows but now i can't, i go to my computer and click on W:// and it says it's not been formatted asks me if i want to format it and i say no but it won't let me open it04:19
sviviananyone?04:19
kkathmanCayou:  try this instead...   alt-f2  type kcontrol... choose peripherals then display04:20
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RawSewageOk, I think I got it working04:20
svivianAlso, just downloaded a bunch of packages. For some reason the X screensaver doesn't show up in the menu like it did for Kubuntu 5.1004:20
Cayoukkathman, same option to turn the monitor off after a time, but I only want the screensaver04:21
rredd4I tried to install kubuntu onto an existing ext3 partition, when I got to the swap part, the installer could not see it.  I was using the desktop cd, dapper.   not sure why it would not allow me to use existing swap..04:21
kkathmanCayou:  thats weird04:21
kkathmanI guess kubuntu disabled that option04:21
rredd4I was putting it over debian04:21
kkathmansux04:21
kwtmimbrandon: Holy cow.  I think I know what happened.  I was running Grip.  When I closed it and its icon disappeared from the system tray, everything went back to two rows.  Probably because Grip is a GNOME application and doesn't know how to behave in a KDE tray.04:21
kkathmanIm on SUSE right now...maybe somone can tell you where the display power saving is04:22
imbrandonheh04:22
Cayoukkathman, you were saying :"run the times as high as you can"... what did you mean?04:22
kkathmanCayou:  on the power control tab on my install, you can determine how long a time there is before the display shuts off04:22
kkathmanCayou:  stand-by, suspend and power off times04:23
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imbrandonCayou, on kubuntu goto system setting ---> display ---> power tab ( last one )04:23
Official_Cis anyone here good at writing shell scripts?04:23
imbrandonuncheck that box04:23
svivianAnyone have any thoughts on why I can't apply changes in the display System Settings?04:23
Cayoukkathman : I don't want the display to shut off, only the screensaver. Also, I don't have the stand-by, suspend options04:23
kkathmanimbrandon:  no he wants to set that to get the screensaver to work04:24
kkathmanKDE has a quirk that the screensaver wont engage unles power mgmt is enabled (dumb but true)04:24
imbrandonkkathman, that has nothing to do with the screen saver04:24
kkathmanwell actually it does :)04:24
kkathmanseemingly it shouldnt04:24
kkathmanhehe04:24
imbrandonkkathman, mine works fine without pwr mgmt04:24
kkathmanyou have to enable it first..then you cant turn it off :)04:24
kkathmanhehe04:25
kkathmanI learned that from #kde04:25
Cayoukkathman : oh... I see.. that's a weird bug...  The problem is my monitor is getting a little old and it needs to be "warm" to work properly, if it shuts dows it gets cold ... (I know, time to buy new monitor...)04:25
kkathmanyah they think its weird too04:25
kkathmanhehe04:25
CaBlGuYkkathman: my SS works just fine and I haven't messed with the power save stuff at all...04:26
kkathmanCaBlGuY:  what KDE vers04:26
CaBlGuY3.504:26
Cayoukkathman, I'll try that and stop typing for a minute, brb04:26
kkathman3.5 what?04:26
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imbrandon3.5.2 and 3.5.304:26
imbrandonon mine04:26
imbrandon;)04:26
kkathmanboth?04:26
kkathmanat the same time?04:27
kkathmanlol04:27
imbrandoni have many diffrent boxes here i develope with ;)04:27
imbrandonand yes one has both04:27
imbrandonactualy both + kde4 svn04:27
imbrandon;)04:27
kkathmanI have 3.5.2 on kubuntu and 3.5.3 on SUSE04:27
CaBlGuY3.5 KDE04:27
imbrandonall my boxes are kubuntu04:27
CaBlGuYbrb04:27
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kkathmanCaBlGuY:  I meant  3.5.0, 3.5.1, 3.5.2, or 3.5.3 :)04:28
kkathmanlol04:28
kkathmanits ok04:28
kkathmannp04:28
Healotyou meant ubuntu with KDE ?04:29
Healothehe04:29
kkathmanubuntu w/KDE = Kubuntu :)04:30
kkathmanhehe04:30
kkathmanbbl04:30
CaBlGuYOh..  ya silly..   it's 3.5.0 I believe../.04:30
Cayoukkathman: still won't work... oh well..04:30
imbrandonCaBlGuY, type /sysinfo04:30
CheeseBurgerManCaBlGuY: Dapper comes with 3.5.2 by default.04:30
CayouSysinfo for 'steve-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-23-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.00GHz at 2999 MHz (5996 bogomips), , RAM: 313/502MB, 96 proc's, 5.45h up04:31
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RawSewageGoogle EArth works great on Linux04:31
Healotyou tried it? with 3D acceleration04:31
imbrandonRawSewage, depends on your box , not for everyone ..... http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot5.png04:32
CaBlGuYnot givin me anything when I type /sysinfo04:32
RawSewageimbrandon, did you get todays Linux release04:32
CaBlGuYCheeseBurgerMan:  I installed base Ubuntu and then installed KDE after the fact04:32
imbrandonRawSewage, thats todays linux release04:33
imbrandon;)04:33
RawSewagewhy is it doing that04:33
imbrandonexactly, thats why i said not for everyone ;)04:33
RawSewageand why did you make your LInux look like Windows04:33
LiteHeddedok i did the dist-upgrade and I dont think it worked04:33
imbrandonRawSewage, becouse i can04:33
imbrandonLiteHedded, why do you say that ?04:34
RawSewagelol04:34
CheeseBurgerManCaBlGuY: Doesn't matter, you'll still get the default version unless you added a non-default repo for a later version.04:34
LiteHeddedin my start menu it still says 5.1004:34
CheeseBurgerManCaBlGuY: In your Konversation type '/sysinfo'04:34
imbrandondid you reboot after the upgrade ?04:34
CaBlGuYok, gimme a sec04:34
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imbrandonCaBlGuY, in konvorsation no konsole04:35
LiteHeddedyea I rebooted imbrandon04:35
imbrandonahh wait04:35
imbrandonCaBlGuY, you not on konversation you using a gnome irc client04:35
imbrandonthats why04:35
imbrandon[21:33]  [CTCP]  Received CTCP-VERSION reply from CaBlGuY: xchat-gnome 0.11 Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 [i686] 04:35
CheeseBurgerManOK then, paste the results of 'kded --version'04:35
imbrandonLiteHedded, type "cat /etc/issue.net" in a konsole and tell me what it says04:36
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LiteHeddedk lemme try it04:36
LiteHeddedlemme join here from the linux machine04:36
GullyFoylehow do i get ksmoothdock to start automatically? do i put it in ~/.kde/Autostart?04:36
CaBlGuYyes, actually I am using Gnome IRC client while logged into KDE environemtn.. :P04:36
imbrandonGullyFoyle, a link you it yes04:36
LiteHeddedsays it's still breezy imbrandon04:36
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LiteHeddedok back04:37
LiteHeddedstill here imbrandon?04:37
CaBlGuYso, imbrandon I would have to switch over to use the /sysinfo then yes?04:37
imbrandonLiteHedded, ok hold on PM we'll get you fixed up04:37
LiteHeddedokie dokie04:37
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imbrandonCaBlGuY, i personaly wouldent use a gnome client on kde but in konsole type what CheeseBurgerMan said and it wqill do the same thing04:38
CaBlGuYimbrandon well, yur not me. ;)04:38
svivianSysinfo for 'CSASYSADMINL': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)DCPU3.20GHz at 2800 MHz (6405 bogomips), , RAM: 901/1011MB, 106 proc's, 54.25min up04:38
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sviviananyone?04:39
CaBlGuYI actually kinda like the Gnome environment better, I'm a "minimalist" but KDE visualy looks nicer..04:39
sviviananyone?04:39
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HealotCaBlGuY: if you're a minimalist, you should choose xfce or twm ...04:40
GullyFoylei like fluxbox with kde support, it's blazing fast04:40
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CaBlGuYHealot:  what r thoze?04:40
CheeseBurgerMansvivian: Try running 'kdesu kcontrol' - that way you won't need to use Admin mode04:40
Official_Canyone try xgl?04:41
CaBlGuYOfficial_C:  I got it installed yes..04:41
Official_Ci saw a demo video of it today...its pretty sick04:41
Official_CCaBleGuy: how do you like it04:41
CaBlGuYOfficial_C:  works good for me...  seems to anyway..04:41
CaBlGuYno probs thus far..04:41
Official_Ccawhat kinda specs do you have?04:42
svivianCheeseBurgerMan: Just tried that. I get errors:04:42
svivianX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16804:42
svivian  Major opcode:  14504:42
svivian  Minor opcode:  304:42
svivian  Resource id:  0x004:42
svivianFailed to open device04:42
svivianX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16804:42
svivian  Major opcode:  14504:42
svivian  Minor opcode:  304:42
svivian  Resource id:  0x004:42
svivianFailed to open device04:42
NthDegreeCaBlGuY if you are a minimalist then use xubuntu and expert setup to install only the base system and manually apt-get the parts you want from there04:42
NthDegree:p anyway's i'm off to bed04:43
NthDegreenight :)04:43
CheeseBurgerMansvivian: OK then, run 'sudo -i' and then run 'kcontrol'04:43
svivianCheeseBurgerMan: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.04:43
svivianCheeseBurgerMan: I think something got missed in the install.04:44
CheeseBurgerManYeah, apparently.04:44
CheeseBurgerMancan you run 'systemsettings' ?04:44
CaBlGuYHmmmmmm04:45
svivianCheeseBurgerMan: Cannot connect to X server04:45
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CaBlGuYwell, once I learn Linux like I need to, I'll get right on that.. :p04:45
CaBlGuYbrb04:45
ubuntuhmm04:45
ubuntu6.06 is damn nice.04:46
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CheeseBurgerMansvivian: What can you run?04:46
GullyFoylehow do i add a pager to my taskbar?04:47
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svivianadept runs fine, other regular apps run fine. Terminal is ok04:47
CaBlGuYwell, I aint got Konversation..  :/04:47
CaBlGuYI'm in KSirc now..04:47
CaBlGuY:p04:47
svivianI just run into problems with the "Administrator Mode" button04:47
CheeseBurgerManHmm, what can you run as root?04:48
nivekeverything?04:48
nivek>.>04:48
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svivianCheeseBurgerMan: give me an example.04:50
svivianCheeseBurgerMan: just ran xscreensaver. It barked at me, so I know it is installed. However, it never showed up on the menu like it did in 5.1004:50
CheeseBurgerMankrita, gwenview04:50
svivianCheeseBurgerMan: I keep getting "cannot connect to X server"04:51
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CheeseBurgerManI'm not sure what's wrong with it. :(04:51
svivianCheeseBurgerMan: Is there an easy way to reinstall X?04:51
CheeseBurgerManYou can reconfigure it easily. I'm not sure about reinstalling.04:51
svivianCheeseBurgerMan: Or rather, is there a package on which all the other X packs depend, so I can remove it and reinstall?04:52
CheeseBurgerManTo be perfectly honest, I'm not sure.04:52
imbrandonsvivian, type "xhost +" as your normal user before trying to run an x app as root04:52
svivianCheeseBurgerMan: It must be installed, or KDE wouldn't run, I'm thinking04:52
CaBlGuYbrb again...04:52
CheeseBurgerManYes, I know it's installed, I just dont know what package. ;)04:52
barros_hi all.. i've just noticed a package called linux-kernel-header.. how can I remove (or update) it to my vanilla kernel04:52
barros_?04:52
svivianimbrandon: What will that do?04:53
imbrandonalloow root to connect to your x server04:53
svivianimbrandon: I get: access control disabled, clients can connect from any host04:53
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imbrandonbarros sudo apt-get install linux-headers-(`uname -r`)04:53
imbrandonsvivian, right now try sudo -i04:54
imbrandonand kcontrol04:54
barros_imbrandon: does it work when I compile a vanilla kernel?04:54
svivianimbrandon: I ran xscreensaver again. It launched, but I also saw04:54
svivianxscreensaver: warning: $DISPLAY is not set: defaulting to ":0.0".04:54
svivianUnknown device ID 5B64, please report. Assuming plain R300.04:54
imbrandonyes that gets the current running kernel version app04:54
barros_E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.16.2004:55
imbrandonahh barros you dident compile from ubuntu sources ?04:55
barros_nope.. got it from kernel.org04:55
imbrandonahh then thats where you need to get the source from and unzip it to /usr/src/linux04:56
imbrandonyou have to do things by hand now that you have done it the un official way04:56
svivianimbrandon: I still get ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.04:56
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imbrandonsvivian, try ....04:56
imbrandonsvivian, try "export DISPLAY=:0" as root04:56
CaBlGuYokey dokey..04:57
CaBlGuYSysinfo for 'none': Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon at 995 MHz (1992 bogomips), , RAM: 932/1010MB, 93 proc's, 20.3h up04:57
barros_imbrandon: hmm.. can I just remove all files from linux-kernel-header and then make links by myself?04:57
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svivianimbrandon: done04:57
CaBlGuYthere04:57
barros_imbrandon: /usr/include/asm and linux04:57
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imbrandonsvivian, now run kcontrol04:58
imbrandonif not i got one more thing to try ;)04:58
imbrandonlol04:58
CaBlGuYthis is kinda nice lookin....04:58
winbondi need help with setting up raid0 , anyone raided?04:58
CaBlGuYgot slave but not raided...04:58
imbrandonwinbond, what exactly do you need help with, ;) we have to have specific questions ;)04:58
svivianimbrandon: ok, kcontrol came up, but I still got a bunch of errors:04:58
svivianX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16804:59
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svivian  Major opcode:  14504:59
imbrandonsvivian, thats ok thats normal04:59
svivian  Minor opcode:  304:59
svivian  Resource id:  0x004:59
imbrandonyea04:59
svivianFailed to open device04:59
imbrandonthats fine04:59
svivianX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16804:59
svivian  Major opcode:  14504:59
svivian  Minor opcode:  304:59
svivian  Resource id:  0x004:59
svivianFailed to open device04:59
winbondwell , i need to know how to set it up since the grub doesnt install on raided partitions04:59
imbrandonthats just means you have extra stuff in xorg.conf04:59
imbrandonno biggie04:59
imbrandonignor that stuff04:59
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imbrandonwinbond, yea what you would have to do is have /boot on a non raid device and install grub to that device05:00
barros_imbrandon: ok.. i'll recompile using the linux-source tree... it is just a case of make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image, right?05:00
KuLoverAnyone use a Kubuntu compatible USB micraphone/headset that they could reccomend?05:00
imbrandonbarros SHOULD be05:00
barros_imbrandon: ok.. i wanna keep away from troubles.. :D05:00
imbrandonKuLover, i have a logitec one ( not usb ) that works great05:00
winbondimbrandon: how can i do that if i only have 2 harddrives?05:01
imbrandonbarros yea that would be the better solution05:01
barros_imbrandon: thanks!!05:01
KuLoverimbrandon, do you have problems playing music or other sounds wile using it?05:01
imbrandonwinbond, do software raid and dont use the whole first drive ;)05:01
imbrandonKuLover, nope05:01
imbrandonwinbond, or stick a nother small ide drive laying arroundin there05:02
james_xxxstreaming video really sucks still in linux05:02
KuLoverimbrandon, have you ever heard of such a thing? it seems when im voicing with skype, i cant play music05:02
KuLoverand vise versa05:02
winbondimbrandon: software raid on 1 drive ? sounds pointless, i want a raid0 with 2 harddrives05:02
imbrandonjames_xxx, depends on hardware and codecs and such i love my streaming meadia server ;)05:02
imbrandonwinbond, no software raid with 2 drives just ....05:02
james_xxximbrandon: i guess i don't know what i have done wrong, but it does not work for me half of the time05:03
imbrandonok winbond when you setup the partitions set /boot and swap to like 1 gig each on the first hdd then set the rest raid and the whole second drive raid05:03
imbrandonthten create a md0 raid device05:03
imbrandonjames_xxx, what kinda of streams and where from and what codecs do you have installed , what bandwidth , a TON of stuff influnces vid streams05:04
winbondimbrandon: how can i manually install grub to /boot then grub installs only at the end of the whole setup without giving a choice where to install it05:05
imbrandonno no you install grub to the same device /boot is on the first hdd05:05
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svivianimbrandon: Something is broken in the display manager. With kcontrol running from a terminal window, I can see the calls the application is making, and I keep seeing KeyError and "list index out of range"05:05
imbrandonas long as you put /boot on the first hdd you will be fine05:05
james_xxximbrandon: i have cable internet, i have all the codecs from automatix, and i have problems with a lot of streams05:06
imbrandonsvivian, ok exit out of everything and just do it the old fashion way IE "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from konsole, forget kcontrol for now05:06
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Official_Cthis is a stupid question but, in a strictly console Unix environment, how do you see graphical applications?05:07
winbondimbrandon: what if i only leave /boot as a non raided partition , will that work?05:07
svivianimbrandon: ok, do I need to bail from KDE completely, or can I run that from terminal, and what am I getting myself into?05:08
imbrandonrun that from term is fine05:09
CheeseBurgerMansvivian: That command reconfigures X.05:09
imbrandonjust restart kde when done05:09
svivianimbrandon: thx05:09
imbrandonwinbond, yes should05:09
svivianCheeseBurgerMan: thx05:09
Official_Cwas that too stupid of a question to answer?05:09
svivianbee back soon05:09
imbrandonOfficial_C, sorry i missed the question05:10
imbrandonwhat was it ?05:10
winbondimbrandon: ok , thank you05:11
imbrandonnp05:11
imbrandonOfficial_C, looks like you need to install an x server05:11
imbrandonis your anwser05:11
imbrandonhard to tell without more details05:11
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imbrandon!ping05:13
ubotupong05:13
imbrandonhrm quieted down fast ;)05:13
imbrandonsoooo hows it going CheeseBurgerMan05:14
CheeseBurgerManI'm fine. Just looking at cool Drupal modules.05:14
CheeseBurgerManYou?05:14
imbrandonnadda, got wrapped up helping like 30 ppl at one time yet again ;)05:14
imbrandontime to do some compiles now05:14
imbrandon;)05:14
CheeseBurgerManhehe, so I saw. ;)05:14
imbrandonheh my whole log is red from imbrandon everywhere05:15
imbrandonlol05:15
imbrandonbrb05:15
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Hobbsee!tell lnxKDE about packagingguide05:23
Hobbseehey DaSkreech05:23
DaSkreechhiya05:24
CaBlGuYHOwdy Hobbsee  o/05:26
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CaBlGuYjerwin:  u in Colorado by chance?05:27
jerwina'yuh05:27
jerwincablguy... must be don05:27
jerwin:-)05:27
CaBlGuYummmm  is that a yes then ..  :)05:27
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jerwinyes05:27
CaBlGuYcool, what can u tell me about it, I'm lookin to move there soon..05:28
jerwinBeen here my whole life.  Not a bad place to live.05:28
CaBlGuYcool..  PM05:28
LiteHeddedimbrandon still here?05:29
Jack_SparrowI need to know his trick on getting the Kmenu to look like the XP Start..05:29
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CaBlGuYJack_Sparrow:  why on earth would u want that???  :-O05:30
Jack_SparrowJust for fun..05:30
CaBlGuYOh, to fake peeeps out huh??  :p05:30
CheeseBurgerManJack_Sparrow: KBFX05:30
Jack_SparrowYep.05:30
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Jack_SparrowSo I need to search for KBFX?05:31
imbrandonJack_Sparrow, mine ?05:31
Jack_SparrowYes05:31
CheeseBurgerManJack_Sparrow: http://kbfx.org ;)05:31
Jack_SparrowAhhhh05:31
imbrandonhttp://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/theme/royale/05:31
imbrandonCheeseBurgerMan, i have all the graphics and such on my page that he's looking for too ;)05:32
imbrandonplus kbfx and the kwin deco05:32
imbrandon;)05:32
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winbondwhat dir is the repo list in ?05:33
Hobbseehey CaBlGuY05:33
imbrandon /etc/apt/sources.list05:33
imbrandonheya Hobbsee05:33
imbrandondident see ya sneek in05:33
winbondok , ty , brainfart05:33
imbrandon;)05:33
Hobbseeheya05:34
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Tofumanchuanybody know if there is a place I can monitor Ubuntu checkins?  There's an ACPI fix that I just gotta have ...05:39
HobbseeTofumanchu: lists.ubuntu.com - the dapper changes one?05:43
Hobbseeor launchpad05:44
Tofumanchuwell, I've got the launchpad bug #, but no way to associate that to a commit of some sort.05:44
Hobbseewhat bug number?05:44
Tofumanchu#39315:05:44
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ChefWilldoes anyone know if i install the kubuntu desktop package from ubuntu if itwill uninstall firefox/other programs?05:48
DaSkreechIt wont05:49
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yylexChefWill: no.05:49
ChefWillim thinking about switching to KDE05:49
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HobbseeTofumanchu: looking.  and it's nto easy to understand05:50
Tofumanchuthx!05:51
RawSewageKubuntu has FF05:51
ChefWilli know that, i dint know if itd mess it up05:51
RawSewageI use Konqueror though05:51
Lunar_Ravenkde > gnome05:52
Lunar_Raven:)05:52
HobbseeRawSewage: not unless you insatll it.05:52
Lunar_RavenI've been using konqeuror too, pretty good browser minus a few issues05:52
RawSewageI didnt install FF05:52
RawSewageand it came with the installation05:53
RawSewageIm almost positive05:53
Lunar_Ravenfirefox comes with kubuntu05:53
Lunar_Raveni think..05:53
Lunar_Ravenherm, maybe not actually05:53
TofumanchuI had to apt-get ff05:53
RawSewageI didnt05:53
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Tofumanchuwith a fresh dapper install05:53
Lunar_RavenYeah I remember, I used automatix for ff05:53
RawSewageso did I05:53
HobbseeTofumanchu: it looks like it's been put in...i think05:53
Hobbseestill trying to figure if it has or not05:53
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RawSewageAutomatix for FF is old school05:54
Tofumanchuhehe, I haven't seen the kernel-modules package in my update list...05:54
Lunar_Raveneither way you can just download the package from the firefox website and untar it05:54
RawSewagewhy would you do that05:54
Lunar_Ravenor apt-get of course05:54
Lunar_Ravenif you're too lazy to bother with repos05:54
Lunar_Raven:D05:54
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imbrandonsudo apt-get install firefox  will install 1.5.0.4 ;)05:54
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Tofumanchudoit ChefWill05:55
nixternaldo it ChefWill...it is a much better experience :)05:55
Lunar_Ravenkde is my favorite desktop05:55
Lunar_Ravenever05:55
imbrandonkde ftw ;)05:55
RawSewageok, Linus05:55
ChefWilli can do it thru commandline cant i?05:55
RawSewageMark Shuttleworth uses Kubuntu05:55
imbrandonChefWill, yes05:55
HobbseeTofumanchu: you could probably contact him - there are changes, but i cant see that exact bug in the changelog - but i'm not sure if they actually ptu them in05:56
Hobbseeif it's marked as fix released, itshould be there05:56
ChefWillits installing ;x05:56
Lunar_Ravenubuntu makes it simple to install kde05:56
KyralRawSewage: I fail to see the point :P05:56
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ChefWill400MB, wow05:56
ChefWillthere goes my hdd space05:56
Lunar_Ravenhaha05:56
RawSewageyou fail to see the point that the founder of Ubuntu uses Kubuntu?05:56
KyralGranted I use KDE but you make it seem like a big deal lol05:56
ChefWill:P05:56
Lunar_Ravenits big05:56
TofumanchuGreat...  Thanks for all the help Hobbsee!05:56
KyralRawSewage: I fail to see the place where I am supposed to give a damn05:56
Lunar_RavenI thought everyone used kde o.O05:56
RawSewagesaid the Gnome user05:56
Kyral*twitch*05:57
RawSewagelol05:57
KyralHobbsee: can I teach him something?05:57
KyralSysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.16-beyond running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2100+ at 1734 MHz (3470 bogomips), HD: 245/432GB, RAM: 783/1011MB, 85 proc's, 6.23d up05:57
KyralQt: 3.3.605:57
KyralKDE: 3.5.305:57
Kyralkde-config: 1.005:57
RawSewagewhat05:57
KyralSaid the Arch User and package maintainer05:57
Kyral:D05:57
RawSewageoh05:57
Lunar_RavenI tried gnome awhile back05:57
Lunar_Ravenit's too simplistic05:57
HobbseeKyral: nice, hehe05:57
RawSewageso youd know if FF comes with Kubuntu or not05:57
Lunar_Ravenand there's like..no way to configure it05:58
CaBlGuYLunar_Raven:  EXACTLY..05:58
HobbseeRawSewage: yes, and it doesnt.05:58
Lunar_Ravennot like kde05:58
KyralI don't use Ubuntu any longer05:58
CaBlGuY:p05:58
Lunar_Ravenkde has options for everything05:58
Lunar_Raven:P05:58
Kyralnor Kubuntu or Xubuntu for that matter05:58
CaBlGuYSimple is goooooddd05:58
RawSewageI couldve sworn I didnt install FF05:58
CaBlGuY:)05:58
RawSewageIm telling you05:58
RawSewageI use konqueror, so why do I have FF05:58
Lunar_Ravenlol05:58
RawSewageFresh install05:58
Kyraland again, I fail to see the point that I am supposed to care what sabdfl or Linus uses as a WM05:58
Lunar_RavenI like konqueror now05:58
Lunar_RavenI just wish gmail supported it better05:58
RawSewageI guess FF was a dependency of something else I installed05:59
KyralOn my laptop Fluxbox is the WM of choice05:59
ChefWillforward gmail to your pop account05:59
ChefWillaw man, evolution isnt going to work now is it05:59
Lunar_Ravengood point05:59
RawSewagespeaking of email, how many emails do I have to train before the spam filter catches even 105:59
Lunar_Ravenkmail is good05:59
Kyralon my Hurd machine...well I don't run X lol05:59
Lunar_Ravenatleast from what i've seen05:59
Lunar_Ravenit may lack compared to evolution though05:59
ChefWilli have all my mail setup thru evolution05:59
Lunar_Ravenit should work in kde fine though05:59
Lunar_Ravengtk apps work fine in kde06:00
ChefWillit wont be integrated though06:00
Lunar_Ravenintegrate how?06:00
KyralChefWill: gtk2-engines-qt or whatnot06:00
Lunar_Ravenyeah06:00
ChefWill?06:00
Lunar_Ravenit'll blend with qt nicely06:00
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Lunar_Ravengtk-qt draws gtk apps I guess, so they look like qt06:00
Lunar_RavenI may have explained that crappy, but yeah..it makes gtk integrate nice06:00
RawSewagespeaking of email, how many emails do I have to train before the spam filter catches even 106:01
ChefWillmaybe kbear will work better now that its running on its native desktop ;/06:03
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regeyawow,  someone said 'my Hurd machine'06:05
ChefWillkubuntu-desktop finished installing, just restart or?06:05
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RawSewageI should try xDE06:09
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HawkwindHey, a fellow Houstonian running Kubuntu :)06:12
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kelly_hey06:12
HawkwindWhat part of Houston ?06:12
kelly_wow this is cool06:12
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HawkwindAh ok.  I'm in Katy myself06:13
kelly_sugarland sorry06:13
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HawkwindAhhh, I used to live and work in Sugarland.  Opened up the Lowe's there actually06:13
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LiteHeddedi just upgraded and I can't start x06:14
LiteHeddeder kde06:14
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kelly_trying to get my sound card working06:15
MitjaThe Win key is suddenly not recognized anymore? How can I fix this?06:15
crimsun_kelly_: hold old/new is the computer?06:15
crimsun_kelly_: s/hold/how/06:15
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kelly_sony vaio 5 year old trial and error computer06:16
crimsun_kelly_: cpu?06:16
kelly_p406:16
crimsun_that's five years old? sheesh, I must be ancient.06:16
HawkwindLOL crimsun_06:16
Hawkwindcrimsun_: I was sitting here thinking the same thing06:16
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crimsun_anyhow, pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''06:17
HawkwindI just didn't want to be the first to admit I was suddenly feeling really really old06:17
crimsun_kelly_: I presume you know about pastebin?06:17
LiteHeddedcan anyone help me get into kde?06:17
LiteHeddedthese big terminal characters are scaring me06:17
ChefWilli just installed kubuntu-desktop and restarted its still in gnome ;/06:18
ChefWillall the kde apps are there but no intefface06:18
ChefWillwhat am i missing?06:18
francfCherWill: in the display manager must be an option to chose GNOME or KDE06:19
RawSewageI think you have to change bootup options06:19
francfBy default use the last option, in your case Gnome06:19
ChefWillwhere though?06:20
RawSewagein kcontrol06:20
RawSewagesystem admin- login control06:20
RawSewageno, maybe not06:20
francfCherWill: when you login on the computer, exist an option to select the DE06:21
ChefWillnope06:21
ChefWillnot that i saw06:21
francfin Session, i think...06:22
crimsun_well, I guess kelly_ really didn't want assistance.06:22
ChefWillim in kcontrol havent found an option to choose kde/gnome06:22
RawSewagethat was rude06:23
francfnop, is not in kcontrol. Just Logout. Look at "Session" and choose KDE06:23
ChefWillalright let me look06:23
Tomzepurge gdm -> install kdm06:24
MitjaWhere can a key modifier be added?06:25
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francfMitja:key modifier? did u mean for multimedia keys?06:25
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ChefWillhrm works now06:26
ChefWillthanks whoever told me06:26
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Mitjafrancf, I mean alt, ctrl, win...06:26
francfno problem, man.06:26
TomzeChefWill: purge gdm -> install kdm06:26
ChefWill?06:26
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francfMitja: Look at "System Preferences->Region and accesabiltiy.06:28
TomzeChefWill: gdm = gnome display manager works bad with kde... and the same for kdm if you use gnome06:29
Mitjafrancf, already did, what specifically?06:29
ChefWilli got it working06:29
ChefWillis there no kde frontend for network-manager?06:29
TomzeChefWill: the try to shut down your pc ;)06:29
francfMitja: In the second option06:29
ChefWillTomze: i already got it working06:29
francfCheffwill: yep, knetwormanager06:30
Tomzeso you say.. he06:30
Mitjafrancf, Country Region / Language?06:30
ChefWillaggh why do they have to name it like that06:30
francfsorry, Knetworkmanager06:30
ChefWillthey name everytihng else network-manager06:30
ChefWillthats why i couldnt find it06:30
francfMitja: In Shortcuts... (i think, my distro is in spanish, so i'm guess the translation)06:31
MitjaYes, looking right now06:31
francfCheffWill:  :)   In general, the KDE applications start with a "K".06:33
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RawSewageKool06:42
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ChefWillso what is the most powerful mail app for kde?06:45
ChefWilli use to use evolution..06:45
Hobbseekmail, i tend to use thunderbird06:45
ChefWillhrm, will kmail import my evolution stuff06:46
Hobbseei think so06:46
kkathmanif you want pure kde - Kmail/kontact06:46
Hobbseeit imported thunderbird stuff06:46
ChefWillhrm06:46
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kkathmanChefWill:  probably kontact will be more analagous to evolution...as its a suite...thunderbird is just mail..but its a decent client06:47
francfChefwill: yes and no. You can import, but u need do by hand.06:48
kkathmanso if you want all the other things like newsfeeds, contacts, address book (like evolution), then kontact will seem more familiar06:48
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ChefWillyea imma just redo it06:49
ChefWilli cant find a way to import06:49
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LiteHeddedjust upgraded how do I install ati again?06:52
kkathmanChefWill:  Kontact/Kmail will import evolution files I think06:52
LiteHedded!ati06:52
ubotuwell, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers06:52
ChefWilli dont see where kkathman, ive looked06:52
kkathmanChefWill:  Under Kontact, File-Import Messages06:52
ChefWillwell, its not hte messages, its more the accounts06:53
kkathmanwell the accounts are easy to setup06:53
kkathmanits you mail you want I think06:53
kkathmanthe copy I have imports v1 and v2 of evolution06:53
MitjaCan somebody help me please? Some of the keys suddenly stopped working. Locale layout setting is not recognized at all. It all worked after installation. Now I don't know what I did to make it stop working. Any clues?06:54
ChefWillyea i got mail06:54
ChefWilli just had like 10 accounts in evo :P06:54
RawSewagespeaking of email, how many emails do I have to train before the spam filter catches even 106:54
ChefWillits a pain in the butt to do all of em06:55
kkathmanRawSewage: well, are you using the bogofilter?06:55
RawSewageyes06:55
francfups, my coffee is over.06:55
RawSewageright-click messages:  apply filter...  Filter Classify as Spam06:55
RawSewageright?06:55
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kkathmanRawSewage:  you are using kmail?06:56
RawSewageyes06:56
kkathmanso I'd set your filters first06:56
kkathmantry and catch a bunch06:56
kkathmanas it gets more, it will learn06:56
RawSewageIm using  Filter Classify as Spam06:56
kkathmanthat helps too06:57
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RawSewageif  Filter Classify as Spam  Bogofilter?06:57
MitjaIs there a way to reinstall the keyboard part of KDE?06:57
RawSewageI did the wizard, and Bogofilter was the only one listed06:57
kkathmanRawSewage:  yep you can get a few others, but I've found Bogo does a decent job06:58
RawSewageok06:58
RawSewageI guess it takes a long time06:58
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kkathmanit takes a while06:58
RawSewageI get a lot of spam though06:58
kkathmanbut, again...define your own Filters also, and that will help too06:58
RawSewageI dont want to06:59
kkathmanok06:59
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RawSewageI want to see what Bogofilter does by itself06:59
LiteHeddedati install didn't work06:59
RawSewagean AI experiment06:59
LiteHeddedcan someone help?06:59
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DaSkreechMitja: I'd love to help07:02
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MitjaDaSkreech, sweet dreams07:03
DaSkreechIf You are here tomorrow I'll try and be of assistance07:03
MitjaI'll just reinstall a few things07:03
kkathmancya DaSkreech :)07:03
DaSkreechNight all :)07:03
seanI've recently run into a problem of my computer randomly rebooting, and I'd like to try to track down the problem (likely hardware related)07:04
seanmyself07:05
MitjaDaSkreech, night07:05
seanDoes anyone know of what log files too look at that may help me?07:05
DaSkreechSean: dmesg :)07:05
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LiteHeddedati help anyone?07:08
seanLiteHedded Possibly, with what?07:10
seanwait, offering or asking?07:10
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LiteHeddedupgraded to dapper07:11
LiteHeddedinstalled kubuntu-desktop07:12
LiteHeddedinstalled ati and it doesn't work07:12
RawSewagecan you do a fresh install07:12
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LiteHeddedasking sean :)07:14
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Redeis there a way I can devote more system resources to a process? ie. i have a high quality video that occaisonally stutters as im trying to watch it and i'd like to devote more resources to kaffeine...07:14
DShepherdhi DaSkreech, Riddell and imbrandon from freenode :-D07:14
DaSkreechhaha! :)07:15
DaSkreechlnxKDE: Get him!!07:15
imbrandonlol07:15
DShepherdget who... let me at him07:15
LiteHeddedimbrandon too busy to help one more time? :P07:16
LiteHeddedati issues this time07:16
DaSkreechWell let me go and kick the dogs into their bed then I can go to mine07:16
yoshucan anyone suggest a good (secure) mail server? - I'm looking at exim and sendmail right now07:17
lnxKDEDShepherd what me to say hi to you too?07:18
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lnxKDEwant*07:18
romeo5k|afkhello all07:18
DShepherdlnxKDE: ok..07:18
lnxKDEok07:18
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lnxKDElol07:18
ChefWillanyone know how to disable the "Description" section after messages in kmail?07:19
DShepherdDShepherd: I need to start saying hi more often. It seems that it can get you places07:19
Romeo5ki need a lil help from someone if possible...07:19
Romeo5kim kinda of a new guy to linux .,.. i am a windows guy07:19
Romeo5kand wanna try linux.. so i got Kubuntu...07:20
Romeo5kand installed it on my HDD.. but me and a friend are facing a prob.. it wont let me conenct to the internet. because i dont think it can find my driver07:20
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ChefWillwifi Romeo5k?07:21
Romeo5kand it wont let me install the driver either.. it gave us an error while trying to install the driver.. .. No thru LAN07:21
LiteHeddedi've come too far for ati to beat me now@07:21
Romeo5kstraight wire...07:21
Romeo5kMy Router lan light is not coming on.. so im having a feeling its not reading it... it did that with windows.. its an onboard07:22
Romeo5kand i have the linus driver for it..07:22
Romeo5kI have the07:22
Romeo5kMainboard: A8N-VM CSM07:22
Romeo5kthats what i have... and... am i allowed to paste the error in here07:22
kkathman!paste07:23
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .07:23
LiteHedded!ati07:23
ubotuI heard ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers07:23
Romeo5kalso.. this is what my friend said...07:24
Romeo5kinstall the correct kernel source07:24
Romeo5khe said he tried but couldnt...07:24
Romeo5khe said maybe its different on my 64 bit... cause he didnt have to on his 32bit. since mine is a 100/100007:25
Romeo5khttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1563307:26
Romeo5kthats the error i was getting07:26
kkathmanredhat?07:27
LiteHeddedanyone care to help me with ati yet?07:27
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Romeo5kno ... Kubuntu07:27
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Hobbsee!ati07:28
ubotuwell, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers07:28
noaXesshow to extract a windows exe file?..07:28
LiteHeddeda bit more help than that is needed Hobbsee :)07:28
noaXessit is a windows selfextracting exe file07:28
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kkathmanbut thats all there is Hobbsee :)07:29
kkathmanlol07:29
Romeo5kkkathman why u ask about redhat??07:29
kkathmanRomeo5k:  cuz your error message references it07:30
Hobbseekkathman: i have an intel integrated card, so never have to mess with any of it :P07:30
Romeo5kkkathman but i dont know why...07:30
kkathmanHobbsee:  you never were like all the other girls07:30
noaXess!exe07:30
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noaXess07:30
kkathmanRomeo5k:  uhm  I dont either07:30
Hobbseekkathman: of course - why would i be here, if i was07:30
kkathmanwell ya.. uhmm I guess07:31
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Romeo5kkkathman ok ... can u tell me how to "install the correct kernel source"?07:31
kkathmanRomeo5k:  why do you want another kernel source?07:32
Hobbsee:P07:32
Romeo5kkkathman I tried to do that the other day and couldn't get the correct kernel source07:32
Romeo5kkkathman and i think thats whats causing the error07:33
kkathmanRomeo5k:  try the wiki, and start here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelSourceDriver?highlight=%28source%29%7C%28kernel%2907:33
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RawSewageoh well, so much for Python07:34
kkathmanRomeo5k:  are you trying to compile your own kernel for kubuntu?07:34
kkathmanRomeo5k:  another good launching point:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowTos?highlight=%28kernel%2907:34
Romeo5kkkathman what does that mean.. remember im a noob... im just trying to install a driver for the network catd07:35
Romeo5kkkathman its a NVIDIA07:35
kkathmanlol07:35
kkathmanwell thats not good news actually07:35
Romeo5kbut the cd i have has linux drivers07:35
kkathmanlet me save you ALOT of headaches07:35
Romeo5kso i dont have to use .exe07:36
kkathmango get a regular $8 NIC card that doesnt need a driver :)07:36
kkathmanhehe07:36
kkathmanNVDIA network cards are notorious for not working well...even with their drivers in linux07:36
Romeo5koh yea???07:37
kkathmanyah07:37
Romeo5kdam..07:37
kkathmanI mean the trouble you'll go to....better to just get a cheap NIC card :)07:37
Romeo5kwell i cant get mad...07:37
Romeo5kthis means i need to buy another 100/1000 card07:37
kkathmanyou are about the 10th person that has had this problem with NVIDIA NIC cards07:37
kkathmanRomeo5k:  yah but they are really cheap07:37
kkathmanI saw a 3Com for like $5 the other day07:38
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kkathmanyou plug it in...it works07:38
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Romeo5kdangit07:40
Romeo5khold07:40
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Romeo5kok07:40
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Romeo5kChefWill u stay in houston?07:42
ChefWillyea07:42
Romeo5kChefWill nicce me too07:42
ChefWillcool, what part07:42
Romeo5kgalleria area07:42
ChefWillah07:42
Romeo5ku?07:42
ChefWillI'm in westgate/katy area07:42
Romeo5knice..not too far, about 30 mins without traffic07:43
Romeo5k:)07:43
ChefWillapproximately07:43
ChefWilli drive past it everyday to class07:43
Romeo5kwhere u go to sxhool?07:44
ChefWillHCC Culinary07:44
Romeo5khahaah07:44
ChefWillat Main/Elgin07:44
Romeo5ki worj there07:44
Romeo5kwork***07:44
ChefWillwhere07:44
Romeo5k11th flr07:44
ChefWillcool07:45
Romeo5ksexretary to associate Vice chancellor07:45
ChefWillill be there in 6 hours :S07:45
Romeo5kdam07:45
Romeo5kno sleep07:45
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ChefWillnot much07:45
Romeo5ki prolly seen u there b4 then07:46
ChefWillprobably07:46
Romeo5ki eat there sometimes07:46
Romeo5kwhen i can afford it :(07:46
Romeo5kyall too ruch for me07:46
Romeo5krich**07:46
ChefWillidk, i get it free07:46
Romeo5klol07:47
Romeo5kdats a bet07:47
Romeo5kkkathman am i ok using the 64 bit Kubuntu? or should i have settled for the 32 bit??07:49
Romeo5kkkathman cause i heard they are kinda different07:50
kkathmanwell, there are always going to be little buggies in the 64bit version, but I'd use it if I had the processor07:50
kkathmannalioth or Hobbsee know much more about the 64-bit kubuntu07:50
Romeo5koh yeah?07:50
Romeo5khmmm07:50
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Romeo5klol07:51
Romeo5ki wont bug u07:51
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seanI've personally had more trouble using 32bit versions on my 64bit processor than with the 64 bit verstion07:52
seanonly version doesn't have a t07:53
seanbut if it did, y'know, it'd be cooler07:53
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Romeo5kanything is better than what im using right now07:54
seanaside from the lack of flash, and the extra work with wine (which I never really use) I've had no troubles07:54
seanwell, I mean, aside from the recent troubles with random restarts, but I don't think that's a 64-bit sympton07:54
sean...cas...07:55
Romeo5kive tried 3 OS within the past week... i havnt had to restart yet...07:55
Romeo5kkkathman the bad thing is... the LAN was werking yesterday07:55
Romeo5kuntill i updatd my bios07:55
seanumm, don't worry, it's not a "have to" so much as a does without permission.  But again, probably not OS related07:56
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Romeo5kthen i lost me LAN07:56
kkathmanRomeo5k:  I know07:56
kkathmanthat seems to be a very consistent complaint with that card07:56
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Romeo5ki might take it to the IT ppl at my job and see what they can do..07:57
Romeo5ksee if they know anything... abot Kubuntu that is.07:57
kkathmanfrb  kewl07:58
kkathmansry wrong channel :)07:59
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MitjaDoes anyone have any experience with Opera? Flash plugins work, but keep getting "de-installed". So whenever I start Opera I have to define them again. Any clues?08:16
crimsun_opera 9 beta 2 works fine here08:17
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defryskhere too08:17
defrysknever use it tho ;p08:17
MitjaI use 9 beta 2 too08:18
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defryskMitja, flash should work fine then08:18
Mitjadefrysk, it does. Every time  I redefine the paths.08:18
defryskMitja, sorry08:18
defryskhonestly have no solution08:18
defryskMitja, did you install the flash package of ubuntu ?08:19
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Mitjadefrysk, yes, and it works in Konqueror08:20
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darkfusionhello08:20
defryskMitja, you could try the flash package of macromedia and install for opera usage only08:20
darkfusionanybody here wanna help me try and get samba working ? I cant seem to view the drive in windows08:20
defrysklike a local install or something08:20
defryskhttp://www.linux.com/ gives an empty page in konqueror anyone else too ?08:22
seandefrysk - ditto08:23
defryskanyone know why or is it a feature ?08:23
seanwait, strike that, just didn't wait long enough08:23
seanAlthough I'm running konqueror on ubuntu, and not kubuntu at the moment08:24
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=== defrysk gest only the background of the site , nothing else
seanodd...08:24
sean* thinks that's strange08:25
seanwait, that's not how that works...08:25
seanI never did learn how to use IRC08:25
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bimberisean: "/me thinks that's strange"  :)08:26
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seanthank you08:27
bimberi:)08:27
bimberinp08:27
defryskno I have vision08:27
defryskweird08:27
PyroMithrandirdefrysk, www.linux.com works fine in konqueror for me08:27
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seanas, adis08:27
defryskdoes not render correctly here08:27
defryskmust be a 3.5.3 bug08:28
PyroMithrandiris your konq up to date?08:28
PyroMithrandirnah, I'm on that08:28
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defryskI see nuthing in konq in linux.com , page up and back I see a poorly rendered page of linux.com :/08:29
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PyroMithrandir:/ I don't know what it is08:30
weedarIs there a FIPS-like program that runs under linux or that possibly even has a GUI for splitting partitions? :)08:30
PyroMithrandirFIPS?08:30
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weedarPyroMithrandir: My father has a big VFAT partition, he wants to split off the end of the partition to create a new one while keeping the first part of the partition in tact without having to format it :)08:32
PyroMithrandirI think gparted can resize partitions08:32
PyroMithrandirI've never used it... I'm an fdisk man myself08:32
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defryskweedar, gparted is your best bet08:34
weedarThanks for the thumbs-up defrysk and PyroMithrandir - I'll pass the message along :)08:35
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PyroMithrandirwhere's there a Mithrandir?08:37
PyroMithrandirIt's not me08:37
insanekaneweedar: you might want to use partition magic though ... much more reliable08:37
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weedarinsanekane: you mean the windows program partition magic? I hope not, last time I used that it thoroughly trashed my hard-drive :/08:38
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insanekaneweedar: there is a windows live cd/rescue CD somewhere ... it uses PM and it works very well08:39
insanekaneweedar: anyway, when you run the kubuntu installer (i.e., alternate CD atleast), the partitioning screen allows you to resize ... it works so far for FAT32 for me ... havent tried NTFS08:39
thelostbyte_How to install gstream for amarok ?08:41
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weedarOh its VFAT/FAT32 so it should be ok insanekane :)08:41
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th0m4sInstalling Kubuntu 6.06 DVD onto a Sony Vaio VGN-T250P right now, is there a way to have it install make during install or will I have to wait until it's fully loaded for that?08:42
th0m4sAs well, last time I could only get 1024x768, 1024x600, and 800x600, but no 1280x768 despite editing the correct files08:43
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defryskthelostbyte_, amarok uses the xine engine08:45
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defryskthelostbyte_, not gstreamer08:45
defryskthelostbyte_, that is if you want mp3 support08:46
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thelostbyte_defrysk, huh ? amarok is an mp3 player, thats how i know it :S08:47
defryskthelostbyte_, amarok is an mp3 player if it has that support08:48
defryskthelostbyte_, on dapper ?08:48
thelostbyte_defrysk, ok ! i want mp3 support..08:49
insanekaneth0m4s: once you are finished installing ... just do "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ... that should install pretty much all you need08:49
weedarth0m4s: after install you might want to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to setup resolutions08:49
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PyroMithrandir!mp308:49
ubotuI guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:49
thelostbyte_i am there and i installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly08:50
defryskthelostbyte_, sudo apt-get install amarok-engines08:51
thelostbyte_done that..08:51
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PyroMithrandirtry using the xine engine instead08:51
thelostbyte_but no gstream in enigines..08:51
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defryskthelostbyte_, u have to set it to xine08:51
thelostbyte_PyroMithrandir, xine gives me no sound //08:51
PyroMithrandirweird08:52
PyroMithrandirmaybe that's a common problem?08:52
PyroMithrandir!xine08:52
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PyroMithrandir08:52
PyroMithrandirI don't know. I'm tired. I'm calling it a night08:52
defryskthelostbyte_, read this first : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f06eb8f6a8cbb1ed38dd019b7dde9f0f7bb2616008:52
TheTouristHey all, Im having a strange problem with Adept. Basically it keeps saying its already open. Even when I restart. So yeah it only opens in read only mode.08:52
defryskthelostbyte_, it tell you to also install libarts1-xine.08:53
PyroMithrandirTheTourist, you tried running a killall adept to make sure it isn't running08:53
defryskthelostbyte_, sudo apt-get install libarts1-xine.08:53
TheTouristI've checked and cant find the process open either08:53
defryskthelostbyte_, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs08:54
defryskthelostbyte_, those two packages should do the trick ;)08:54
PyroMithrandirTheTourist, you're running it with root privs right? with kdesu?08:54
Romeo5kgn ppl08:54
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TheTouristyep08:54
thelostbyte_ok.. doing it.08:54
TheTouristthats right, the window comes up and i enter my root pword08:54
TheTouristapt  is working from the command line tho and its not locked08:55
PyroMithrandirarg, you stole my next question right out from under me, TheTourist08:55
defryskTheTourist, root pw in kdesu is your username pw08:55
TheTouristI just rememberd tho that I did have the problem with Java in adept08:56
defryskso make sure to use the correct pw TheTourist08:56
TheTouristmaybe something is corrupted?08:56
TheTouristok Ill give it a go08:56
thelostbyte_defrysk, you mean i can play video too in amarok  ?08:56
defryskth0m4s, video ?08:56
PyroMithrandiryou can play video with xine08:56
defryskthelostbyte_, I mean ?08:56
defryskxine mplayer etc08:57
defryskxine soundengine is used thelostbyte_08:57
PyroMithrandirwell, yeah, but xine is the engine that amarok uses, so I guess that's where the confusion comes in08:57
defrysknot the video stuff08:57
thelostbyte_defrysk, cause my default there is no mp3 support..so xine supports video too.. thats why..08:57
PyroMithrandiramarok is just audio, though08:57
defryskthelostbyte_, nope no video08:57
thelostbyte_ok08:58
PyroMithrandirxine will do video, but amarok will be like "pshaw, naw"08:58
thelostbyte_defrysk, Thanks, it works now :)08:58
defryskthelostbyte_, :)08:58
PyroMithrandiralright, guys, time for me to actually go to bed this time ;)08:59
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defrysklater all08:59
PyroMithrandirwow, must not be 3 am there ;)08:59
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TheTouristokay, I ended up running dpkg --configure -a and now it starts up properly09:02
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TheTouristIts all workin now tho, to thanks!!09:03
TheTourist*so thanks :)09:04
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apathy```Im having a bit of trouble installing Kubuntu, once the cd boots up, and try to install through the menu, i get the error:09:10
apathy```Error #8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC09:11
[fadli_klate] i ve install dapper 6.06 rc2. what else to upgrade to -lts- release other than 'apt-get upgrade"09:11
apathy```ive tried boot commands like noapic acpi=off09:11
apathy```and it just boots into windows rather than starting to install09:11
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apathy```oh yea It says uncompressing first then the error09:11
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th0m4slinux is magic09:18
th0m4sit somehow guessed my WEP key because i never gave it it09:19
klerfaytfor some odd reason kubuntu installed lilo instead of grub http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/609/snapshot13pq.png09:19
th0m4sthat or it's stealing my neighbors internet09:19
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lnxKDEhttp://lnxkde.blogspot.com/09:19
th0m4shaha yep it is my neighbors internet09:19
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[fadli_klate] weird, my lilo in kubuntu09:22
TheHighChildhey guys, if I wanted to make a perfect ISO image, what app would you suggest?09:22
[fadli_klate] k3b?09:22
TheHighChildI'll give it a whirl, thanks09:22
[fadli_klate] what u`ll use the iso for?09:22
TheHighChildDon't ask don't tell ;P09:23
TheHighChildlol, it'll be a bootable disk09:23
noiesmothrow at peoples :09:23
noiesmo009:23
TheHighChildYou guys know any methods of slipstreaming in Linux?09:24
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exceswaterhi all09:25
[fadli_klate] hi09:25
exceswateri have a question because i am new to kubuntu09:26
exceswater:d09:26
exceswateri typed this in konsole09:26
exceswatersudo apt-get install planetpenguin-racer flightgear bzflag09:26
exceswaterto install some games...09:26
exceswaterplanet penguin racer09:26
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exceswaterflightgear09:26
exceswaterand bzflag09:26
exceswaterand it seems like they installed09:26
exceswaterbut i cannot find them09:27
exceswaterwhy ?09:27
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th0m4sbecause09:28
th0m4slinux does not love me09:28
[fadli_klate] cant find it in Kmenu?09:28
[fadli_klate] may be just type in the console >> bzflag09:28
klerfaytsystem settings>system services does not ask for password then I click on "admin mode"09:28
JairunCalothI can't use apt09:29
th0m4shttp://imagesocket.com/images/snapshot10c4.png09:29
th0m4sas you can tell by the resolution of that image, i am most definately not seeing the resolution that i am telling it i can do09:30
th0m4sof coures by default it will let me do 1024x768 when i want 1280x76809:30
JairunCalothhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70603309:30
JairunCalothIt says something else is using it, but I don't know what would be09:31
noiesmoJairunCaloth, think the automatic updater is using it posibly09:31
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chavoJairunCaloth, try removing the lock file09:32
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JairunCaloththe auto update isn't currenty running09:32
JairunCalothat least not as far as I can tell09:32
noiesmoJairunCaloth, try type in terminal ps ax | grep apt09:33
JairunCalothahhh I see09:33
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JairunCalothwhat's the command to end apt09:33
noiesmoJairunCaloth, you could just do kill xxxx replace xxxx with pid number of running apt process09:34
JairunCalothawsome09:34
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mekgpcan anyone help with a reading/copying from a NTFS formatted drive question?09:36
JairunCaloththat was easy enough :) thanks for the help09:36
TheHighChildth0m4s: Try the arcade section of games from the kmenu. If that doesn't work, try 'ppracer' in the terminal09:36
[fadli_klate] are u sure u can just kill apt just like that?09:37
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JairunCalothwell it was from when I started an apt earlier...09:37
[fadli_klate] if u do that to rpm, it kill its database09:37
TheHighChildth0m4s: You can always add it to the kmenu if you don't have it. Right click and edit item. You can create a new addition09:37
noiesmo[fadli_klate] , dont worry there's no suger09:38
RawSewagetj9991, did you try the new Google Earth for Linux yet09:39
tj9991no09:39
noiesmo[fadli_klate] , apt is merely downloading the packages and then dpkg handles the install so no damage09:39
tj9991it would probably kill my computer09:39
JairunCalothgoogle earth is out for linux now!!!!09:39
RawSewageyeah09:39
RawSewagetons more images09:39
RawSewagehigher resolution09:39
JairunCalothThat is soooo friken sweet09:39
RawSewagecame out today09:39
mekgpreally? googEarth is out?? coooollL!09:39
RawSewagethe new version09:40
JairunCalothI used google earth to pick out my camping spot last year.09:40
RawSewageLinux is the first option too09:40
[fadli_klate] is it available thru apt?09:40
RawSewagebefore Windows09:40
RawSewageI doubt it09:40
RawSewagehttp://earth.google.com09:40
mekgpthats the only place for it to be Raw...BEFORE windoze! ;)09:41
RawSewagejust make the .bin exectutable and run it09:41
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RawSewageoh09:42
RawSewageI bet Linux was selected because Im running Linux09:42
TheHighChildin k3b, should I make a 'normal copy' or a 'clone copy'? Any idea?09:42
mekgpcan anyone help with a reading/copying from a NTFS formatted drive question?09:43
JairunCalothI know it's possible mekgp09:43
TheHighChild!ntfs09:43
ubotuto automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>09:43
JairunCalothwell damn09:43
mekgpi know, flaky writing support...just trying to copy files off of a drive09:44
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mekgpis there an issue with naming-conventions when linux tries to read/copy windoze stuff??09:44
mekgplike...spaces in the file name?  tooooo many characters???09:45
exceswater!nvidia09:45
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:45
mekgpi can copy some files without problem...others, it raises a stink about access09:45
Ademani'm trying to access my vsftpd server through WAN, but i can't seem to get it to work, my server is behind 2 routers, so in both routers i opened TCP 20, 21 and 44000 - 44128 for pasv,  and vsftp is aware of the 44000-44128 limitation,  yet I can't connect through wan, what might be up?09:46
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th0m4sTheHighChild: i don't need help with games i need RESOLUTION09:46
exceswateri have a nvidia geforce 4 mx 44009:47
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exceswaterand it seems i don;t have drivers for it installed in kubuntu09:47
JairunCalothMekgp: I havn't run into any problems getting files off of the NTFS drive, however it does seem like I allways have to change the permissions once I get them over to do anything with them.09:47
JairunCalothbut I"m merly a n00b, so take anythign I say with a grain of salt09:48
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exceswater!nvidia kubuntu09:49
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, exceswater09:49
TheHighChildok, one sec th0m4s09:49
mekgpits odd JairunCaloth...it will copy some off the NTFS...others it wont09:49
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mekgpthe only corralation i see is file name character length and spaces...the longer they get, the less luck I have copying!09:50
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JairunCalothOdd, I never ran into any problems. However I didn't copy a whole lot of files either, and they were mostly personal files too.09:51
JairunCalothWish I could help you more... but as I said, I'm a noob09:51
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JairunCalothanywho, back to installing my graphics drivers09:53
th0m4si don't know what i'm doing re: graphics09:53
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bulltitanhello guys09:53
th0m4si'm about to setup vnc so that i can just give an expert login info to a laptop with 0 personal data whatsoever09:53
noiesmoexceswater, do you have universe and multiverse enabled then you can get nvidia drivers09:53
th0m4sif that would work09:53
bulltitantoday i'm using a sound blaster live 24 and i see that i can't contro volume by using shortcuts09:54
bulltitanis this because of pcm control or gstreamer thing?09:54
bulltitani'm blind here i could use some help please09:55
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JairunCalothwell that didn't work so well...10:07
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th0m4si officially need help forcing X to use the resolution that i want10:09
th0m4si have tried (in the past, not this time) the edits of the config that are suggested10:09
JairunCalothmake sure your moniter is properly configured10:09
th0m4sand while 1280x768 do get added to the config and shoudl work, they never become an option10:09
th0m4sJairunCaloth: i can't set the model as it's a laptop but i set flat panel 1280x768 :(10:09
th0m4shttp://imagesocket.com/images/snapshot10c4.png10:09
th0m4swith your advice i will push butan10:11
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avatarhi there. i have a problem with my laptop (acer travelmate 8103), dapper drape, X.org 7.0 and the ati fglrx driver (for the radeon 700). i installed xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686. loading the kernel module is no problem. lsmod shows fglrx and agpgart. but starting x is broke: (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)\n (EE) No drivers available. so the Xorg module seems to be not found. i don't know ...10:12
avatar... what to do further :-/10:12
th0m4savatar: "acer"10:12
avatarth0m4s: this means in long form? "calling the famous acer support?"10:12
th0m4sthis means "you are using an acer"10:12
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avatarth0m4s: yes, that is correct. an acer travelmate 8103 - better than no computer :)10:13
th0m4shttp://mindspill.net/v3/content/computing/linux_notes-gentoo-install_guide-acer_travelmate_8104wlmi.html10:13
th0m4sclosest one10:13
th0m4swow that's pretty in depth10:14
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th0m4sclosest for me is a :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=47634910:15
th0m4sthe only one that really applies is in italian10:17
avatarah well, i'll take a look, thanks.10:17
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th0m4sThe video chipset is an Intel 855GME. For some reason the BIOS does not correctly setup the widescreen mode so this is not auto-deteced by the Xorg server (as far as I can work out). To get widescreen working I had to download and compile the 855resolution utility from Alan Poirier (thanks Alan!). Follow the instruction in the README.txt, that is10:18
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RawSewagetj9991,  http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060612/D8I6QGPO3.html10:23
tj9991yes, I know10:23
tj9991I knew about that weeks ago10:23
RawSewageI know.  you sent me the mp3, remember, Champ10:23
tj9991im eating dry top ramen10:24
tj9991the snack for programmers10:24
RawSewagewhat does that have to do with Kubuntu10:24
tj9991[01:23]  <RawSewage> tj9991,  http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060612/D8I6QGPO3.html10:24
tj9991what does that have to do with Kubuntu10:25
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erik__Kubuntu freezes my computer completely when playing videos (after about 15 min).. It is the same with any codec and any video player... I tried re-installing Kubuntu and it is the same now with a 100% clean and fresh installation10:30
erik__what can be wrong?10:30
th0m4ssounds like overheating10:31
th0m4swhats the computer10:31
th0m4sok woah now i'm in a much higher rez but is it the right higher rez10:31
th0m4sOMG 855resolution IS THE BOMB10:31
th0m4sWOOT10:31
erik__th0m4s: it's a laptop, my fan doesn't even turn on when playing a low-res movie like I was just now, last time it froze10:32
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mrmistHi guys10:33
mrmistI need to make a machine set it's own static IP-address10:33
mrmistanyone know how to ?10:33
th0m4sifconfig10:34
erik__th0m4s: any idea? where can I find logs about what happens?10:34
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mrmistth0m4s: er... I need to SET the IP automatically each time I boot... not read it10:34
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mindspinhi, when I load default kernel (2.6.15) my pcmcia nic is not recognized, I have to boot with 2.6.12 kernel any ideas?10:34
nnn0mrmist: ifconfig eth 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 up10:34
nnn0for instance10:34
nnn0eth0 of course10:35
nnn0but you may have to use route also10:35
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erik__mrmist: I think in /etc/hosts though you can certainly do it with some graphic config app instead10:35
nnn0to set the network and the gateway10:35
JairunCalothhappy fun time with text based irc...10:35
nnn0no hosts are for local nameresolving10:35
th0m4sor you could install webmin and do it that way10:35
th0m4s(graphically)10:35
erik__mrmist: K -> System Settings -> Network Settings10:36
pd273mrmist: you can do this10:36
pd273Go to Start-> System settings -> Network settings10:36
pd273click the Admin mode and you can add your own IP address10:36
JairunCalothIf I were an error log for X, where might I be hidding?10:36
nnn0mrmist, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.html :)10:36
erik__where can I find logs about why my computer locks up completely when playing movies for about 15 min?10:36
pd273its in /etc/network/interfaces if you need to do it in the CLI way10:37
mrmistth0m4s: Will that command make the PC have the same IP each time it starts ???10:37
th0m4si dunno really10:38
pd273mrmist: yup10:38
erik__where can I get help with Kubuntu?10:38
erik__any help channels?10:38
pd273here :)10:38
erik__pd273: obiously I can't, so do you know somplace else?10:39
th0m4stryin to figure out10:39
th0m4sinstall apache through adept or not10:39
mrmistah... think I got it now...10:39
pd273erik__: you can get most help from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/10:39
mrmisttrying to rebbot the server...10:39
mrmistThanks guys :)10:40
pd273erik__: did you check /var/log/messages for any usefull info about the crash10:40
mrmistgotta go now10:40
mrmistcya10:40
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th0m4ssomeone said that the dapper dvd added itself as another repository for packages when you put it in10:40
th0m4sbut that did not happen for me10:40
th0m4sam i supposed to put it in before or after starting adept10:40
pd273th0m4s: if it does not work that way, insert the CD and try "sudo apt-cdrom add" from CLI10:41
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pd273it might work to add the DVD too to the repo10:42
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th0m4spd273: well i had the dvd in before starting adept and maybe i should put it in after10:42
th0m4sis the question10:42
pd273th0m4s: am not sure about adept doing it automatically10:43
pd273let me check10:43
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th0m4sjust using your apt10:44
visik7what means X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16610:44
visik7every apps generate this error10:45
admin_Hey All10:45
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cox377Hi all10:46
cox377i was wondering if someone can give me a hand with something10:46
pd273th0m4s: I tried but adept is not doing it automatically for me10:47
pd273we could try cox37710:47
cox377I'm knew to Linux.. had kubuntu installed for the last 72 hours and very impressed.. but i'm trying to open some ports up10:47
cox377and for love nor money i cant get a firewall installed such as guarddog10:47
pd273hmm10:47
cox377i've tried the get apt commands10:47
pd273cox377: your problem might be that you have not enabled the multiverse repository10:48
Partizan77A hello from beautiful Berlin. Unfortunately my English is too bad, therefore I cannot remain with you. Much fun10:48
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cox377how do i go about enabling them?10:48
pd273cox377: I am checking for a link10:49
cox377thanks10:49
cox377:d10:49
pd273everybody has this same problem10:49
cox377:s10:49
nico8481hi10:49
cox377Ummm10:50
cox377is there anyway to open up ports?10:50
cox377manually maybe10:50
cox377for a novice10:50
pd273cox377: what service would this port be used for10:50
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cox377Basically, i have also set Kubuntu as the main OS for someone else, however they use bloody hotmail.. everything has worked fine so far apart from trying to get hotmail working with thunderbird. I've installed an extention to get it to work but 3 ports have to be open for that extention to work10:51
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cox377under adept manager i installed a firewall called shorewall.. but then once installed i cant find it anywhere to be able to configure it10:52
pd273cox377: for the installation your /etc/apt/sources.list should look like this http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70611010:53
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pd273cox377: shorewall is an excellent firewall, but I should say it is not good for beginners10:53
FHXHey all, after installing libdvdcss2 my computer still won't play DVDs, saying that the source can't be read. Does anyone know of how I could fix this?10:53
FHX(Kaffeine player)10:54
pd273unders /usr/share/doc/shorewall you will see how to start using shorewall10:54
cox377ahh ok..10:54
cox377i shall take a look10:54
cox377thanks for yah help10:54
pd273I have shorewall installed of for all my servers10:54
JohnFluxah shorewall10:54
cox377is it fully configurable?10:55
FHX.____.10:55
pd273cox377: you can configure it to the best possible :)10:58
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pd273shorewall is the best I have seen11:01
pd273:)11:01
FHX..11:01
FHXO.o11:01
FHXCan nobody help me with the DVD problem?11:02
cox377Just having a read through the instructions11:02
dr3asFHX: tryed using mplayer?11:02
cox377does it take over all kubuntu?11:02
FHXdr3as: I've tried xine + kaffeine. I'll try Mplayer11:02
FHXdr3as: Both of them give the same error though. So using Mplayer might not help much.11:02
jpatrick!dvd11:02
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)11:02
dr3asif you try to brows the place the dvd has been mounted, can you see everything on the dvd?11:03
FHXyes11:03
FHXi've already installed libdvdcss211:03
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BlueDevilany way i can get a gnome-centric application to support webdav in kubuntu?11:05
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farous!easysource11:05
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:05
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emonkeylapBlueDevil, Konqueror is a good WebDav Client why do you want another one in kubuntu?11:07
BlueDevili need planner (project management) to open the file from webdav11:07
BlueDevilplanner is a gnome app11:08
cox377lol.. does this shorewall not have a front end?11:08
BlueDevili don't want to copy the file locally, edit it, and then upload it to webdav again11:08
farousis multiverse supported by ubuntu or is it at the same level as back-ports ??11:08
BlueDevilemonkeylap: any ideas?11:09
pd273cox377: I dont think so11:11
pd273its all CLI work11:12
pd273guarddog was the last one I have seen with has a good GUI11:12
tj9991RawSewage, http://www.goonbase.com/11:12
tj9991why didn't we think of this11:12
pd273cox377: By default all ports are accessible on your machine11:12
pd273why do you need a firewall now11:13
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smykehi again11:13
RawSewagetj9991, what is it11:14
tj9991a long long time ago, a poster had the idea of starting a gigantic project11:14
tj9991everyone added to an image11:14
tj9991it was done through a forum thread11:14
tj9991it was so popular someone scripted it to make it easier, and resulted in that site11:14
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RawSewagefor Kubuntu?11:14
tj9991everyone can add a cell or two, or more if they want11:14
tj9991yes, for Kubuntu11:15
RawSewageIt will give me ideas11:15
tj9991people like to work together11:15
tj9991the system is very basic and it works11:15
RawSewagelike in Kubuntu11:16
tj9991like in lightcycle racing in Tron11:16
tj9991aka Kubuntu11:16
cox377ahh11:16
RawSewageor in #Boringville11:16
cox377PD273 - if all ports are accessable.. does that not make the machine liable to be open to anything?11:16
pd273cox377: you are right in a certain way11:17
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cox377Basically.. all i want is to secure the computer.. yet open the ports that i require11:18
cox377i've used guarddog on a live cd ages ago and i think it did what i want11:19
cox377i dont know why the apt-get install guarddog isnt working11:19
cox377root@admin-desktop:~# apt-get install guarddog11:19
cox377Reading package lists... Done11:19
cox377Building dependency tree... Done11:19
cox377Package guarddog is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:19
cox377This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or11:19
cox377is only available from another source11:19
cox377E: Package guarddog has no installation candidate11:19
cox377thats what i get11:19
nnn0guarddog is judt a gui for iptables11:21
nnn0jsut11:21
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cox377I know.. but i dont know how to do it manually.. i've had a quick read.. it's gone over my head11:22
cox377point and shoot is what i'm after11:22
nnn0k, are you on suse 10.1 ?11:22
nnn0no sry wrong channel :D11:22
cox377me?11:22
cox377Ok11:22
nnn0you are on kubuntu of course11:22
nnn0i guess you could just try to download it11:23
samulicox377, you don't have right reporitories in sources.list11:23
nnn0ah, check that first of course11:23
nnn0guarddog should normally be there11:24
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samulithough sources.list might be something completely different for rmp-package manager.11:24
samulierr.. hmm.11:25
cox377http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70611011:25
cox377thats the site that was given to me earlier11:25
emonkeylapBlueDevil, sorry no idea...11:25
samuliyou said you used apt-get.. but doesn't suse use rpm instead of debs?11:25
cox377I'm using kubuntu11:25
jpatricksamuli: what?11:25
jpatrickNever mind11:26
samulicox377, okay.. so check your sources.list11:26
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cox377ahh ok.. sorry i think i'm understanding.. the reporitories are just the list of servers?11:28
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cox377do i just copy and paste those lines from the site into the sources.list?11:29
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_rince_mrgn11:31
weedarcox377: yes just add them to the end of your /etc/apt/sources.list - take a backup of the original one first jut in case11:31
weedarBe sure to run "sudo apt-get update" to make apt-get scan all the repositories so you actually use them cox377 :)11:31
cox377when11:32
cox377## Ubuntu Dapper Drake repo11:32
cox377deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted11:32
cox377deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted11:32
cox377deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse11:32
cox377deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse11:32
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cox377deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted11:32
cox377deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse11:32
cox377opps11:32
cox377sorry i didnt mean to past that11:32
cox377when i try and save sources.list it says Could not write to /etc/apt/sources.list.part.11:33
weedarhow are you editing sources.list cox377?11:33
jme__my guess is that you should be root to save those file11:33
cox377just opening it in the 'kate' txt program11:34
jme__retry with  'sudo kate'11:34
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cox377how do u mean jme?11:34
weedarcox377: sources.list requires root-priveleges to edit, when starting a program to edit it you need to prepend "sudo" to the command11:35
jme__cox377: open a terminal and type 'sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list'11:35
cox377do u mean run that under the command prompt11:35
jme__cox377: then do your modification. and the save should work ok11:35
jme__weedar: is more didactic than me :)11:35
cox377it says that it cannot connect to x server11:36
cox377sorry about this guys11:36
achrafhello, i followed some tutorials on creating diskless machines that load Ubuntu from a debian server over PXE11:36
firepolhi there, how to make sure that all applications will obey the "Default browser" setting that I configured in kcontrol > KDE Components > component chooser > Web browser? openoffice keeps opening links in konqueror...11:36
jme__cox377: i guess you dont know vi ? :)11:36
cox377lol11:36
achrafi used initrd to boot over network,,,but while loading services, it starts complaining about /dev/nfs does not exist and then hang, and gives me a VERY limited shell access11:36
cox377definatly not11:36
RogueJediZeroHey, um... How do you find samba shares in CLI?11:36
jme__cox377: well the solution is 1. to become root user 2. to edit and save your file11:37
cox377root@admin-desktop11:37
jme__cox377: i dont know the exact step by step details to do so11:37
achrafam i supposed to add a new udev rule for that?or i am missing something in the config files?11:37
cox377thats what i'm logged in under the terminal11:37
weedarcox377: then try with kdesu instead of sudo :)11:37
jme__cox377: oh, try 'kdesu kate' in a terminal11:38
jme__like weedar just said11:38
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jme__:)11:38
cox377kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:39
cox377haha guess what.. cannot connect to x server11:39
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jme__kdesu doesnt open the X server ?11:39
cox377just says it cannot open x server11:39
cox377root@admin-desktop:~# kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:40
cox377kdesu: cannot connect to X server11:40
jme__cox377: in the same terminal, do 'id' and paste the result here11:40
jme__root@admin-desktop:~#11:40
jme__this is the error :)11:40
jme__close this terminal and reopen a new one11:40
cox377root@admin-desktop:~# id11:40
cox377uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)11:40
jme__dont become root before doing 'kdesu kate'11:40
samulicox377: wtf.. are you using something like su - etc. at start of terminal?11:40
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samulicox377: start a clean install and do kdesu kate11:41
cox377lol11:41
cox377yeh it started the kate of sources.lost11:41
samulicox377: err.. install = terminal emulator :)11:41
cox377what do u mean list*11:41
cox377what do u mean samuli about su?11:41
cox377a clean install?11:42
samulicox377, you are being root and some sudo or su doesn't always like apps that use X.11:42
samulicox377: no install, my typo.. Just start new terminal where you are NOT root. mm-kay?11:43
cox377lol yeh i think i get yah11:43
cox377well11:43
cox377it opened a sources.list modified - kate11:43
cox377i copied and pasted the lines but it still doesnt allow me to save11:43
samulior type nano /etc/apt/sources.list11:44
samulicox377: that's because you need root priviledges to write to sources.list.11:44
cox377as in logged in as root of within the terminal?11:44
cox377i executed that line samuli11:45
cox377and its brought up a screen11:45
samuliyeah, it's a text-editor.11:45
cox377is the writeout option the one to save?11:47
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samulicox377: yeah.11:49
samulinow just do writeout, but don't close nano.11:49
cox377how do u do the writeout?11:50
cox377i've tried writeout enter11:50
cox377tired ^0 enter11:50
samuli^ means pushed with ctrl11:50
jme__kate would have been simpler to use :)11:50
samuliso ctrl+o11:50
samulijme__: but not simpler to explain ^^11:51
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cox377error writing11:51
cox377permission denied11:51
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samulicox377.. umm.. is your username root?11:52
samulino it can't be.11:52
cox377inah11:52
jme__mouaoua11:52
cox377do u mean when i log into kubuntu or the actual termal11:52
samuliso if you have NEW terminal open now that shows yourusername@yourcomputer, then you can use kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:52
samulicox377: any terminal emulator will do.11:52
jme__1. open a terminal 2. type 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/source.list' then press enter 3. modify the file according to your need and save it11:53
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PhilHydeHi folks. Anyone care to give me a hand with a graphics card issue?11:54
BassettsPhilHyde: whats the problem?11:55
RogueJediZeroHow does one find network shares in console?11:55
jme__RogueJediZero: mount ?11:55
cox377guys11:55
cox377jme11:55
PhilHydeBassetts: I *think* I have the drivers for the ATI Rage 128 installed, but I'm not sure that xorg/KDE is using them11:55
jme__yeah cox377 we listen :)11:55
cox377i followed your instructions11:55
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cox377now it wont even open the modified source.list like before its just a blank txt box named source.list11:56
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cox377but there is an error msg, can i paste the error msg?11:56
samuliit's sources.list11:56
jme__cox377: sure11:56
RogueJediZerojme__: Kubuntu already mounted them at startup and I can access them in Konqueror just fine, but I can't type smb://sisterscomputer/D in console11:56
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jme__RogueJediZero: oh i see you want to access them like local file11:57
BassettsPhilHyde: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-5ead174a0b3294527486cd4d71ded66b40003f2511:57
RogueJediZerojme__: Right11:57
cox377all ok11:57
jme__RogueJediZero: well you have to 'mount' them in a local directory. unfortunatly i dunno how to do it :)11:57
samuliRogueJediZero: why don't you mount the sambas as directory?11:57
cox377admin@admin-desktop:~$ kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:57
cox377X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16811:57
cox377  Major opcode:  14511:58
cox377  Minor opcode:  311:58
cox377  Resource id:  0x011:58
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jme__maouaoua what the ffuck :)11:58
cox377Failed to open device11:58
cox377X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16811:58
RogueJediZerojme__: Dang.11:58
samulicox377, those are nothing to worry about.11:58
cox377  Major opcode:  14511:58
cox377  Minor opcode:  311:58
cox377  Resource id:  0x011:58
BassettsPhilHyde: look in adept to see if the drvier is installed11:58
RogueJediZerosamuli: Because I don't know how to and Kubuntu already mounts them for me11:58
cox377Failed to open device11:58
cox377X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16811:58
cox377  Major opcode:  14511:58
cox377  Minor opcode:  311:58
cox377  Resource id:  0x011:58
jpatrick!pastebin11:58
cox377Failed to open device11:58
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .11:58
cox377X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16811:58
cox377  Major opcode:  14511:59
cox377  Minor opcode:  311:59
cox377  Resource id:  0x011:59
cox377Failed to open device11:59
cox377ScimInputContextPlugin()11:59
cox377sorry11:59
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samuliRogueJediZero: so just go to the directory they are automounted.11:59
cox377ok11:59
cox377yey11:59
jme__cox377: well when said yes, i didnt knew it was that long :)11:59
cox377it saved11:59
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cox377lol11:59
cox377sorry11:59
PhilHydeBassetts: OK, done that. Rebooting, back in a bit, hopefully11:59
Bassettsgood luck11:59
cox377ok it's saved.. so now i need to updatew11:59
RogueJediZerosamuli: But I don't know where that is. I can access them in Konqueror via smb://etcetc12:00
cox377updating now12:00
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samuliRogueJediZero: check out the smb.conf12:00
jme__RogueJediZero: in a console, if you type 'mount' then press enter, do you see them ?12:00
samuliRogueJediZero: I know there's easier way, but there you can edit the mount points as well.12:01
weedarWhen sharing a printer via CUPS, do the clients also have to have the printer-driver installed?12:01
RogueJediZerojme__: Nope12:01
RogueJediZerosamuli: Okay, I'll look into it12:01
jme__RogueJediZero: so they are not 'mounted', kde tools can access it thru another mean called 'kio'12:01
RogueJediZeroWhoops, time to go already. Thanks jme__ , samuli .12:01
RogueJediZeroStupid social obligations >_<12:02
jme__RogueJediZero: you need to mount them 'properly' and then they will be usable as local file12:02
jme__fuse maybe can do it12:02
cox377couldnt find guarddog but found firestarter12:03
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cox377: )12:03
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georgebluntheyho12:04
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jpatrickgeorgeblunt: listen what I say oh12:11
phydeBassetts: Well, that's screwed up my X setup. Can't seem to get it back!12:11
phydeI'm using the command-line IRC client now.12:11
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BassettsPhilHyde: what error do you get?12:12
PhilHyde"Fatal server error:12:12
georgebluntjpatrick: lol12:12
PhilHydeno screens found"12:12
BassettsPhilHyde: mine worked ok12:12
PhilHydeI'm sure it did, otherwise you wouldn't have shown me those instructions12:13
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PhilHydeWouldn't mind getting the setup back that worked, now12:13
Bassetts!xorg12:13
ubotuI heard xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html12:13
Bassettsrun sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:14
PhilHydeOK12:14
Bassettsdont rush through it though12:14
jpatrickgeorgeblunt: I'm bored, sorry: http://lyriki.com/index.php?title=Red_Hot_Chili_Peppers:Snow_((Hey_Oh))12:15
samuliBassets, see if you have backups of xorg.conf in the /etc/X11/ directory (you should12:16
samuliUmm, I meant philhyde12:16
georgebluntjpatrick: hehe.. apperently ;)12:16
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PhilHydeBassetts: Nope, reconfigured X and it's still giving the same error12:18
PhilHydesamuli: I'll have a look12:18
Bassettsok, did you backup xorg.conf?12:18
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PhilHydeI seem to have about half a dozen automatic backups12:19
PhilHydeWhich is nice...12:19
Bassettshmm12:19
Bassettsdo that have a timestamp?12:19
Bassettsid use the oldest if they do12:20
Bassettsjust sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:20
PhilHydeYeah, went for the oldest. Seems to be working now12:20
Bassettsofcrouse replace the file name =P12:20
Bassettsgood =)_12:21
Bassettssorry12:21
PhilHydeI copied the most recent to a backup, then copied the oldest to xorg.conf12:21
Bassettsgood =)12:22
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PhilHydeRight, back in lovely KDE.12:23
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi guys12:24
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jpatrickhi Tallia1Kubuntu12:24
Tallia1Kubuntui have seen xgl on my desktop at home.. cool.. a bit sad it doesn't work on my ATI12:25
Tallia1Kubuntuhowever, i want to ask you if you know a VERY SIMPLE alarm... just something set&go..12:25
pd273ATI xgl sad story  :-(12:25
Tallia1Kubuntulike the kclock applet, where instead of the time of another area there's the alarm time..12:25
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Tallia1Kubuntukalarm is WAY too complicated for a simple alarm isn't it?12:26
pd273cox377: you still there, did you try guard dog12:26
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ruI am trying to upgrade my kernel12:34
rusudo apt-get install linux-686-smp12:34
rulinux-686-smp is already the newest version.12:34
rubut if I check it doesnt seem to actually be installed12:34
ruIn the /boot folder I only see "initrd.img-2.6.15-23-686"12:35
ruI dont see "sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp"12:35
ruI mean I dont see xyz-smp sorry12:35
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pipitasweedar: Nope. When sharing a printer via CUPS, clients do NOT have to have the printer-driver installed.12:35
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weedarpipitas: The problem is that when specifying the printer on the client via K->System Settings->Printers->Add printer->Cups Server - I am asked to pick the correct driver after specifyin IP-address for the server and priter12:37
weedar*printer12:37
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noiesmoru linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 is latest on dapper at moment12:37
ruoh ok, so there is no X-smp ?12:37
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noiesmoru not thru apt repos12:38
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noiesmoru, download one thru kernel.org and compile it yourself is an option if you want a later kernel12:39
DarkRavenMixagei switched from gnome to kde and now audio doesn't work anymore..... someone can help me?12:39
ruso howcome there isnt a -smp?12:39
ruThey just havent gotten around to it?12:39
noiesmoru not sure sorry12:39
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noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, hmm how did you switch to kde new install or just thru apt12:40
DarkRavenMixagethru apt12:40
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, does kmix recoknise your card12:41
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, lsmod |grep snd make sure your sound card is loaded12:41
DarkRavenMixageyes the card is loaded12:42
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DarkRavenMixagenoiesmo is a kmix problem i think12:42
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, also I use alsamixergui for sound control or try system settings and audio12:42
DarkRavenMixagei got a 5.112:42
DarkRavenMixagenoiesmo what channels i have to activate12:42
DarkRavenMixagewith a 5.1 card12:42
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, install sudo apt-get install alsamixergui12:42
DarkRavenMixageok12:43
Bassettswhat si the Examples folder for?12:43
noiesmoBassetts, openoffice I thinkj12:43
ruis it possible to make lilo give u an option to select a kernel on boot?12:43
noiesmoru,  yes see /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo after you edit it12:43
th0m4si thought it already did12:43
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kbrookshey12:44
kbrooksi have a question12:44
kbrookswhat is adept_batch & what does it do?12:44
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, when you have alsamixergui go K > Multimedia > alsamixergui and turn up MAster12:44
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kbrookscan someone try adept_batch?12:45
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ChefWillwhy dont you google it kbrooks it will tell you what it does12:47
ChefWillnoones going to just run some command you tell them12:47
DarkRavenMixagenoiesmo not working12:47
DarkRavenMixagewith gnome i was using wave surroound wave center12:47
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, does alsamixergui show you soundcard12:48
DarkRavenMixagenoiesmo yes12:48
kbrooksChefWill:12:48
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noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, are the speakers white or greeny12:49
kbrooks"adept_batch: a small tool to allow scripts or other apps to run adept noninteractively, only to show eg. download/installation progress."12:49
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, above master12:49
DarkRavenMixagegreeny12:49
ChefWillthere you go12:49
kbrooks(not quoted as exact. copied and pasted & changed a little)12:49
ChefWillk class, bbl12:49
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, well thats just wierd sure there plugged in :)12:50
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DarkRavenMixage...12:50
DarkRavenMixagei's plugged12:50
DarkRavenMixage...12:50
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, i was joking12:50
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DarkRavenMixagelol12:51
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, well something is just not right if lsmod shows card and alsamixgui is greeny and turned up I dont know sorry12:51
runoiesmo: Would I just add multiple kernels in the lilo.conf file, then on boot it will ask me?12:52
noiesmoru please read lilo manpage12:53
DarkRavenMixagenoiesmo now i managed to made work 2 speakers12:54
noiesmoru, you need to run lilo after you edit the lilo.conf file12:54
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, cool12:55
DarkRavenMixagenoiesmo why the others don't work anymore? lol12:55
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, what did you do?12:55
DarkRavenMixagenoiesmo abilitated surround mix12:55
DarkRavenMixagenoiesmo how can i select wave surround as the central peripheric?12:56
runoiesmo: Thanks12:56
noiesmoru :) np12:56
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, not sure :(12:57
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cox377OMG12:58
cox377that update that i did12:58
cox377it now shows all the applications that i've been trying to get on apt for the last 72 hours lol12:58
DarkRavenMixagenoiesmo where i can select the umber of channels?01:00
DarkRavenMixagesomeone knows where i can select the numer of channels to us with my soundcard?01:02
noiesmoDarkRavenMixage, don't know :(01:02
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RawSewagetj9991, when was the last time you programmed anything.  I gave up on Python01:02
tj9991im programming now01:02
tj9991and I'm having a problem01:02
RawSewagetell me in Boringville01:03
tj9991DreamHost is killing my imagemagick process im running to convert all the frames to a gif half way through01:03
tj9991so I need to figure out a way to avoid that01:03
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Bazzimultiple processes01:03
msicihi. i have a problem with my amd6401:03
msicierror while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:03
msicibut the lib is there ...01:03
msicidoes somebody know what this could be?01:04
tj9991how can I do that?01:04
RawSewagehttp://wiki.dreamhost.com/index.php/KB_/_Web_Programming_/_Do_you_support....%3F_/_ImageMagick01:04
tj9991theres 79 different PNG files, all named in a number ascending01:04
RawSewageThis is the Kubuntu channel01:04
RawSewageok, Sport01:04
noiesmomsici, I'm not sure but it sounds like the libXcursor is not were the apps looking for it a symbolic link might fix the error01:05
Bazzitj9991 which programming language do you use?01:05
tj9991im using PHP with an exec command01:05
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RawSewagein Kubuntu?01:05
tj9991i dont know01:05
tj9991maybe they use kubuntu01:05
Bazzitj9991: in php you can use fork()01:06
Bazzior exec asynchronously01:06
RawSewage!offtopic01:07
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!01:07
tj9991is there a way to get exec to run on idle process or something, to not trigger the killing program?01:07
msicinoiesmo, how can i say where to look for the lib.... the lib is under /usr/lib .....  if i make ldd <app> there is only : libXcursor.so.1 => not found01:07
msiciLD_LIBRARY_PATH is set correctly...01:07
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noiesmomsici, maybe its looking in /usr/local/lib/01:08
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DarkRavenMixagehow can i configure a 5.1 audio system????01:09
msicinoiesmo, how can i tell the app to look under /usr/lib and not ander /usr/local/lib ???01:11
noiesmomsici, just make a symbolic link01:11
msicinoiesmo, the LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib:/usr/lib32:/usr/lib6401:11
msicinoiesmo, okay i try it01:12
msicinoiesmo, no it doesn't work :(01:12
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noiesmomsici, bugger sory couldnt be more helpful :(01:13
msicinoiesmo, ??01:14
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stefrehello ?01:23
stefrei have a funny question01:24
cox377?01:24
stefreok, its technical01:24
stefredo u have a little time ?01:24
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cox377lol unfortunatly i have less knowledge than u01:25
stefreok, np mate01:25
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pipitasweedar: the point is to not even use your "K->System Settings->Printers->Add printer->Cups Server" thingie!01:28
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RandomDude15I need help01:29
RandomDude15I got a broken file system01:29
RandomDude15and cant get into my system01:29
RandomDude15because of it01:29
pipitasweedar: what you did overrides "Printer Browsing" -- you are trying to *install* a printers locally, And of course, this requires a driver!01:30
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RandomDude15well?01:30
weedarpipitas: so what should I do? :)01:32
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pipitasweedar: and if "Printer Browsing" does not work for you (because Ubuntu packagers decided it is not secure enough for you to have), then try this:  "kprinter --> System Options -->  CUPS server --> [fill in the required info] "  and it should work without client side drivers too. (What it does, is that you are now *polling* the CUPS server for printers and their drivers)01:33
nico8481is there a "kubuntu way" of configuring the nvidia drivers, or do i need to do it by hand by downloading some stuff somewhere and editing the XF86 config files ?01:33
Bazzinico8481: kubuntu way01:33
nico8481Bazzi: that is... ? :)01:33
RandomDude15hello?01:33
Bazzi!nvidia01:33
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:33
Bazzi^01:33
RandomDude15WELL?01:34
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defrysk nico8481 sudo apt-get install glx ; sudo nvidia-xconfig01:34
defrysk nico8481 sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ; sudo nvidia-xconfig01:34
defrysksorry01:34
weedarthanks pipitas!01:34
nico8481The following packages have unmet dependencies:01:35
nico8481  nvidia-glx: Conflicts: nvidia-xconfig but 1.0+20051122-2 is to be installed01:35
cox377I was wondering if someone can answer this question01:35
cox377i've seen screen shots  before when looking @ linux distrobutions01:35
defrysknico8481, nvidia-xconfig is not a package its a script01:36
cox377showing all sorts of cool things on the desktop01:36
nico8481(i already have nvidia-kernel stuff installed btw)01:36
nico8481damn me i've read to fast :)01:36
defrysknico8481, sudo nvidia-xconfig01:36
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nico8481yup thx :)01:36
defrysknico8481, then restart x01:36
cox377let me find a image01:36
nico8481ok01:37
nico8481on my way... brb01:37
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pd273HI cox377: I was testing guarddog for a while01:40
pd273it looks good01:40
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Quick_silver!de01:41
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de01:41
edney_brasilmorning all!01:42
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MetaMorfoziSis tehere kubuntu for 64bit intels?01:53
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waylandbillI'm trying to get apache2 to start. I tried the init script and apache2ctl to start it, but it doesn't stay running. No errors come up when I try to start it.02:00
mickruhi anyone tried to pppoe on demand? If you have to control a DSL modem it's handy to have something like kinternet... 5.10 didn't have that, does 6.06?02:01
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mickruthe faq's state that one should place a link to the connect / disconnect scripts... but comeon, that does require to enter your password over and over again each time you want to connect to the Internet02:03
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andreas___hallo02:07
andreas___ist jemand hier?02:07
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andreas___can u hear me? oder bin ich schonwieder im channelnirvana02:08
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defrysk!de02:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de02:08
cox377does anyone have a recommendation for a decent ftp client02:08
pipitasweedar: so did it work then?02:08
apokryphoscox377: Konqueror02:08
ome_you there? apocrophys?02:08
cox377install gFTP but i think ti's a load of *****!!02:08
andreas___sorry02:08
apokryphosome_: yup 8)02:08
ome_k awesome02:08
cox377i shall give it a go apokry02:08
ome_I thought you were making a joke becuase it apeared to be in another language02:08
ome_if kubuntu is the best thats what i want02:09
cox377do u mean konqueror ftp or the actual web browser?02:09
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apokryphosome_: I certainly think KDE is quite superior to GNOME, so yeah :)02:10
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ome_ok man thats exactly the kinda thing i wanted to know02:11
ome_first time i touched anything linux related was 3 days ago so your knowledge is awesome02:11
ome_Im gonna try to use it for everything and only use windows when i have to02:11
RawSewageWhats the best way to make a DVD of images, playable in a normal DVD player02:12
mindspinwhen activating mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail in adept I see a BREAK in red does it mean it isn't a good idea to install it?02:12
apokryphosRawSewage: digikam is good02:12
RawSewagety02:12
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Razerciao a tutti02:14
Razeruso linux da pokissimo02:14
RawSewageI dont think Digikam does that02:15
RawSewagemakes a DVD of images playable on a normal DVD player02:15
RawSewagenot a computer DVD player02:15
RawSewagea normal TV DVD player02:15
apokryphosRawSewage: hm, one sec02:16
robin__hey all, I have a problem and hoping someone here can help, everytime I try to install java I get an error that its going to brake packages. any Idea's?02:16
RazerHi...02:16
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Razernobody is italian?02:16
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mindspin!it02:17
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:17
winbond!mp302:17
ubotuI guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:17
apokryphosRawSewage: hm, yeah, it's an archive option it seems. There's likely decent ones on kde-apps.org, but I recommend asking in #kde02:18
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RawSewageok ty02:18
apokryphosRawSewage: aha, mandvd claims to do it02:20
apokryphoslooks nice too02:20
RawSewageok thx02:20
apokryphosRawSewage: http://kde-apps.org/content/download.php?content=38347&id=102:20
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winbondhow can i add the .com .org .net autocomplete shortcuts to conquerer ,? like in the firefox02:30
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robin__any one have a source for java that i can put in my source list02:30
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klerfayt!java02:31
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs02:31
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papa_licgreez02:34
papa_licanyone having a problem with usb unmounting itself?02:35
papa_licany suggestions?02:35
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winbondask in ubuntu , more pepople there02:37
winbondpeople02:37
papa_licuh..ok02:37
v3ctorhmm02:38
v3ctorgoogle earth for linux02:38
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mooperewheeeeeee02:41
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statesidelai get this ( sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun 13 12:37:10 2006 ) after typing this ( sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ) what can i do02:43
Tomzeset the time on your pc02:43
Tomzebut ehmm02:43
statesidelajust did that02:43
Tomzeand i just read the whole message ;)02:44
statesidelalol k02:44
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Tomzeopen up your terminal and do "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" if you knwo how to use nano...02:45
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RadiantFiref.y.i. sudo nano is equivalent to the default behaviour of sudoedit02:47
RadiantFireand you can change default editors using sudo update-alternatives --config editor02:47
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exceswaterhi all02:48
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ome_Anyone know a good program to burn kubuntu.iso ? Im in ubuntu02:50
GullyFoyleisn't alt-space the shortcut for katapult? it isn't working02:50
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HobbseeGullyFoyle: try alt+f2, type katapult02:52
Hobbseeand then check if alt+space is already assigned to something02:52
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dr3astrying to install tile, and i just get hecking for Tcl configuration... configure: WARNING: Can't find Tcl configuration definitions02:57
dr3asops, hecking=checking...02:57
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winbondi need to install all apps as sudo , sorrect?03:10
winbondcorrect?03:10
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jpatrickwinbond: yes03:12
winbondjpatrick: ty , do you know if im installing a app but i dont have the req libs, how can i have it pull the req libs from apt get without requesting the app that im installing03:13
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jpatrickwinbond: sudo apt-get install -f03:14
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winbondjpatrick: dang , thanks a lot03:15
jpatrickwinbond: I'm in a good mood03:15
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winbondjpatrick: just started using linux, its interesting , im just learning the basics and experimenting03:16
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jpatrickwinbond: cool03:17
winbondjpatrick: ok , so i got the app installed but i dont have any shortcuts in kde, how can i refresh kde or find out where that app was installed?03:19
jpatrickwinbond: what app was it?03:19
winbondbittorrent from bittorrent.com03:20
winbondthe official one03:20
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jpatrickNo idea03:21
winbondk03:21
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jpatrickshould be in "Internet"03:22
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jpatricktry Alt-F2: "killall kicker && kicker"03:22
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ORIGINAL-GANGSTAhi03:24
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jpatrickI think I scared him^03:25
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RawSewagehow do I uninstall Picasa03:26
RawSewagenm03:26
RawSewageit might come in handy03:27
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railkwhat clients are good for listening to mp3 streams? all the ones i've tried give me errors (maybe not the client's fault, but just want to make sure...)03:29
jpatrickamarok03:29
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railknope... using one of the streams that are in the list by default -> "access was denied for the url: <stream url>"...03:31
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railkcould there be some problem with xine or something?03:33
Bazzicould be that you ahvent installed libxine-extracodecs?03:33
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geneo93anyone having trouble with azureus not appearing03:34
railkBazzi: Adept doesnt even list that package...03:34
PhilHydeHeya: Almost trivial question; does ubuntu have a command line utility that simply makes the PC speaker emit a beep?03:34
Bazzi!tell railk about repos03:34
Bazziuse what the bot told you, then install that package03:35
weedargeneo93: yes, it is a common bug - not fixed yet, but you could always download a newer version manually03:35
robotgeekPhilHyde: man beep03:35
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geneo93weedar:  does same thing03:35
PhilHydeAh, got it; must have turned up in Dapper, I remember looking for beep in Breezy and never found it03:36
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weedargeneo93: That's what I read on ubuntuforums.org - Haven't tried it myself03:37
geneo93!azureus03:37
ubotuI guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo03:37
PhilHydeOK, second and less trivial problem. Some programs won't send sound to ALSA; particularly VLC, and the Flash plugin. I've installed the vlc/Alsa package, but it hasn't helped.03:38
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geneo93nope03:41
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winbondis there an app that will convert mp3 to ogg without having to install mp3 playback codecs?03:41
robotgeekwinbond: i dont suppose that is possible03:42
amdfxapokyphos_: you there?03:42
winbondok , ty03:42
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winbonddoes anyone use the official bittorrent client?03:43
PhilHydeOfficial for whom?03:43
geneo93winbond:  to slow03:43
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winbondfrom the guy that made it03:43
winbondwhats his name03:43
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PhilHydeYou mean the bittorrent client made by the guys that invented bittorrent, rather than whatever the default KDE bittorent client is that'd be the first thing that you'd find in Kubuntu?03:44
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winbondyeah , bram cohen03:45
winbondi mean i use all the apps that are there03:45
winbondbut i like to check out all the apps and then decide which one i want to keep03:45
ome2Anyone know how to setup an nvidia cark in kubuntu?03:45
winbondnot me ,sry03:47
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railkBazzi: thanks btw :P03:47
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rigonattidoes anyone know a good SFTP SSh tools in Ubuntu ??03:48
PhilHydeIn KDE, there's always the fish:// and sftp:// protocols in Konqueror. Otherwise it's just using sftp and ssh in the command prompt, AFAIK. Anyone else?03:49
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rigonattii was looking for some GUI APP03:50
geneo93weedar: you have to reconfigure java03:50
rigonattilike the usually ftp clients03:50
PhilHyderigonatti: Konqueror, then. Does the lot.03:50
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geneo93weedar: sudo update-alternatives --config java03:51
geneo93  and pick the sun java03:51
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geneo93the icon is blank in taskbar though03:53
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davidHey, is there any way to force a program to have an icon in the taskbar?03:54
geneo93yes just right click taskbar03:55
davidwell, all I can get out of that is adding a button to the panel03:56
winbondgeneo93: did you use the official bittorrent?03:57
geneo93no azureus03:58
robotgeekwhy not use ktorrent03:58
geneo93because its slow as snot03:58
robotgeekhmm, works for me.03:59
geneo93azureus is twice as fast03:59
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davidI'm sure its speed is on a user to user basis though03:59
davidazureus was slow for me04:00
davidon windows at least04:00
geneo93na its the way it reads things04:00
davidoh, diff protocols?04:00
davidor something like that04:00
terminethi folks04:00
davidhallo04:00
geneo93windows sucks for any connection04:00
davidmicrotorrent worked pretty well with it04:01
SeanTaterI like Ktorrent just becasue it's part of the KDE project04:01
davidoh that reminds me04:01
daviddo you need to set up a firewall in linux?04:01
SeanTaterdavid: not likely04:01
geneo93if you like you can04:01
davidcuz i heard most of the ports are closed by default04:02
SeanTaterdavid: if you want, it's extremely simple, I'll take you through it04:02
davidlay it on me sean04:02
PhilHydeI wouldn't mind hearing about firewall config; I'm not sure what the firewall on this machine is doing.04:02
SeanTaterdavid: they are clodes by default, that's why firewalls are not entirely necessary04:02
PhilHydeOther than "running".04:02
SeanTaterdavid, bet a terminal ready04:03
SeanTaterdavid, get even04:03
davidwait, get even?04:03
geneo93i have hardware firewall04:03
SeanTaterdavid, I was spell correcting myself04:03
SeanTaterdavid, anyway, get a terminal ready04:03
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davidah04:03
davidits up04:03
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SeanTaterdavid, execute: sudo apt-get install firestarter04:04
davidfor a sec i thought get even was what i was supposed to type in console04:04
davidoh i already installed firestarted04:04
RawSewagehow do you uninstall something thats not in the Add/Remove program list04:04
RawSewagebut was installed with dpkg04:04
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SeanTaterdavid, that's your firewall, now for step 204:04
davidyay!04:04
davidi knew there was more to it04:04
davidcontinue...04:04
SeanTaterdavid, type in: gksu firestarter04:05
davidneat!04:05
PhilHydeIs there a firewall config program that doesn't involve downloading Gnome?04:05
v3ctorguarddog04:05
daviddo you have to do that everytime you want the firewall up?04:05
SeanTaterdavid, does a wizard come up -- if so, do what it tells you to do04:05
PhilHydeGood, I'm avoiding Gnome like the plague04:06
davidi think i already did the wizard04:06
SeanTaterdavid: no04:06
v3ctorguarddog is qt based04:06
davidcuz right now its just a box04:06
SeanTaterdavid: then look in the policy tab04:06
v3ctorand a bit easier than firestarter04:06
davidwhats qt04:06
davidand then what do i do04:06
SeanTaterv3ctor, he's already has firestarter 1/2 way set up04:06
PhilHydeQT is the toolkit KDE uses to make applications04:06
v3ctorSeanTater: talking to the guy that doesn;t want gnome apps04:07
v3ctoror gtk04:07
SeanTaterdavid: do you have any special programs, like a web server or SSHD installed and intend to use?04:08
davidno04:08
davidand probably wont have anything that fancy04:08
SeanTaterdavid: then quit firestarter (it will still be running -- you cannot see it), you are done04:09
davidso, if i have firestarter installed04:09
daviddoes that mean it protects me everytime the computer boots?04:09
SeanTaterdavid:  yes04:09
davidcool cool04:09
davidnow... for another question04:10
davidis there a way to make the windows key open up the k menu?04:10
SeanTaterdavid: dunno -- brb04:10
davidarg04:10
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SeanTaterdavid: okay - back04:12
davidyay04:12
geneo93if you like qt things goto sourceforge and checkout unizone04:13
davidwhats unizone?04:13
geneo93chat and filesharing app04:13
geneo93with magical powers04:14
davidintriguing04:14
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geneo93you'll need qt devel tools04:14
davidis there like a limewire eqivilent for linux?04:14
Kadrani have tried the desktop install today and every thing was so easy and i made many mistakes :) i think i like the old install school04:15
v3ctorapollon04:15
v3ctoror limewire04:15
Kadrandavid: why limewire, use kmldonkey and have them all :)04:15
mhterresmorning04:16
Chryseusdavid: you could try binding "dcop kicker kicker showKMenu" command to the windows-butons04:16
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v3ctorwhat is the hotkey app?04:18
Chryseuskhotkeys?04:19
v3ctorhmm @ ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed.04:19
Chryseusthough you need to run it from kcontrol afaik04:19
v3ctorahh04:20
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ome2is there something simular to repository in kubuntu?04:21
octanhow do i use 2 sound apps at once.. like amarok and teamspeaker, i need to have 0 sound apps running and disable the kde sound system to get teamspeaker to work. i tryed aoss but it didnt work verry well04:22
octanit was all working perfectly when i had debian sarge installed04:22
v3ctorkmenu is already set up04:23
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manicmannabend04:23
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octancan ayone give me a helping hand pls04:23
manicmanwie heit das programm mit dem ich den mirror wechseln kann? also ich brauch n mirror, auf dem auch eclipse und n gutes svn tool wie esvn liegt...04:24
octanjaja la os alle ikke snakke engelsk04:24
manicmanoh sry04:24
octanhehe :P04:24
v3ctor!de04:24
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de04:24
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octani nees some seriuse help with this ..04:25
manicmanhow is the tool named with which i can change the mirror of  adept? i need a mirror providing eclipse and some svn tool like esvn..04:25
octanyour source.list edit it04:25
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davidso, lets say youre given a repository04:26
daviddeb http://wewoai;foi.csjioareoi ./04:26
v3ctoroctan: if you use a sound daemon you can use two sound s=devices at one04:26
davidwith the ./ at the end04:26
davidwhat is the correct way to add that repository to adept04:26
octanv3ctor, what?04:26
v3ctorif you use artsd or esd you can have to apps sending sounds at once04:27
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octanv3ctor, no i cant.. if so pls tell me how.. cos when i open teamspeaker while etc amarok is playing.. TS is not working04:28
v3ctoryou need to set them both to use the sound daemon04:28
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octanv3ctor, TS uses alsa i think04:29
octani tryed set the kde sound system to alsa, but it still wount work if other apps are running04:29
manicmanoctan: and can u tell me a mirror which contains eclipse?04:29
v3ctoralsa is not good for that04:29
octanmanicman, no sorry..04:30
octanv3ctor, oss-emulation. i think its the way,, but i cant fig it out04:30
octani have alsa-oss installed04:30
octanand i tryed using aoss but nogood04:30
davidso, any tips on adding repositories to adept where they have a ./ at the end?04:30
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octandavid> vim. kate mc synaptic etc etc04:31
octanedit source.list in /etc/apt04:31
v3ctoross is not what you need04:32
v3ctoryou need a server in between you apps and you sound card04:32
v3ctorthe service will allow full duplex comunication with sound device04:32
davidwell, i tried just pasting in the line04:32
davidbut then when i tried to download something from there04:32
davidit gave me a "BREAK" error04:33
davidso i figure theres more to it than that04:33
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davidand if i remove the ./ entirely, adept wont even start04:33
octan<v3ctor> i have full duplex enabled in kde sound system.. and its set to alsa atm04:33
octanv3ctor, if i do killall artsd and then open teamspeaker, then TS works04:35
octanbut not any other sound apps... amarok looks like its playing but no sound form it04:35
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v3ctorset TS to use artsd04:35
octanii cant set TS to use artsd04:36
octanit uses a lowlevel sound deamon by default.04:36
octanalsa04:36
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octanv3ctor, only option i have in TS is the sound driver i can set.. atm its set to /dev/dsp04:37
octani tryed adsp. that didnt work04:37
v3ctorhttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Sound04:38
v3ctorthere is an arts section04:38
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octanlet me read that04:39
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davidso, i installed wine, but it won't work when i run the command "wine"04:40
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davidwhyyy?04:40
geneo93wine notepad04:41
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cox377lol04:41
cox377me again.. just wondering... from within Kubuntu.. is it possible to find a list of your hardware?04:41
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winbondhow can i find dufferent drivers for my land cards , the ones i have make it time out at any larger download04:42
v3ctorsudo lshw04:42
winbondlan-cardf04:42
v3ctorfor hardware list04:42
cox377i want to upgrade the driver for my onboard gfx card as it will only support 1024*786 compared to my moms which is also onboard and unknown and auto set itsell @ 160004:42
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davidis there a command to configure wine?04:44
Bazziwinecfg04:44
Bazzi=)04:44
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winbondok , so i found the hardware , now how do i find a better driver for tht hardware?04:48
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octanv3ctor thxz alot.. got it working now :)04:49
v3ctoroctan: great04:50
visik7any deb of googleearth ?04:50
v3ctorvisik7: haven't seen one yet this morn04:50
visik7:/04:50
v3ctorbut the .bin installs well04:51
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v3ctorran it earlier04:51
Tallia1Kubuntu!time04:53
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu04:53
Tallia1Kubuntu!clock04:53
ubotuI guess clock is sudo dpkg-reconfigure ntpdate04:53
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Tallia1Kubuntuubotu: no, you are wrong, i haven't that installed04:54
ubotuTallia1Kubuntu: what are you talking about?04:54
Hobbsee!ubotu04:54
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.04:54
patchhi all04:54
Hobbseehey patch04:54
patchcould anyone help me with codecs / mplayer etc ?04:55
HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: what's the problem?  ntpdate's installed by default, btw04:55
Hobbsee!restricted04:55
ubotu[restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.04:55
Tallia1KubuntuHobbsee: i think i removed it04:55
Tallia1Kubuntuwas wondering how to change the system rime04:55
Tallia1Kubuntutime04:55
patchi am trying to get the codecs working. the ones that mplayer provide04:55
patchbut in kaffine04:56
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Hobbsee!libdvdcss04:57
Hobbsee!+libdvdcss04:57
ubotuit has been said that libdvdcss is (DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)) for i386. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for PPC and amd64, or or just add 'deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main' to your souces.list04:57
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patchok so i have that dvd lib04:59
patchwhat can i install for mpeg/mov/wmv etc04:59
patchthanks btw04:59
Hobbseei'd check the restricted page for that05:00
cox377is there anyway of forcing a better rez05:00
cox377currently the max i can get is 1024 but really would love 1280 - 102405:01
JohnFluxcox377: I'm sure there's a better way, but I can tell you the manual way05:02
JohnFluxcox377: open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:03
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ubuntuhola, soy nica05:04
winbond!drivers05:05
ubotu[drivers]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto05:05
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cox377cheers john05:06
cox377shall go there now05:06
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cox377John05:08
cox377there is a bit within there that states05:09
cox377SubSection "Display"05:09
cox377Depth105:09
cox377Modes"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"05:09
cox377that 5 times05:09
cox377do i add the higher rez in?05:09
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davidukany one know of a manual for tinyerp05:11
JohnFluxcox377: right05:11
JohnFluxcox377: add in the higher res (at the front) of each line05:12
cox377Ok.. wish me luck05:12
cox377lol05:12
statesidelahi  there i just installed kubuntu and am having trouble doing su into root tells me its is wrong password and i know its right05:12
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statesidelaanyone have any ideas?/05:13
JohnFlux!su05:15
ubotuJohnFlux: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:15
JohnFlux!sudo05:15
ubotuI guess sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.05:15
JohnFluxstatesidela: you aren't supposed to su as root05:15
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JohnFluxstatesidela: the idea is that you are supposed to get used to using sudo instead05:15
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JohnFluxstatesidela: if you really want to su, then do sudo passwd root05:15
statesidelasu under my previous flavor Suse05:16
statesidelathank you flux05:16
JohnFluxstatesidela: but I recommend giving sudo a try05:16
[BU] Brizzdoes anyone know how to make it so Adept doesn't ask for my password twice?05:16
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: dunno, but an evil option is to make it suid :)05:17
[BU] Brizzlol05:17
[BU] Brizzwell it only seems to do that when I have updates and I click on the icon in the tray05:17
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JohnFluxwell if you're the only person on the machine, it probably won't hurt05:17
[BU] Brizzhow would I go about it/05:17
JohnFluxI'm not recommending it - but  chmod +S /usr/bin/adept    would probably do it05:18
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[BU] BrizzI may or may not try it05:18
[BU] Brizz:)05:18
patchsorry for the delay. that worked perfectly. thanks all05:18
patchbye05:18
[BU] Brizzhave you tried the new Linux Google Earth?05:18
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: not yet05:19
[BU] BrizzI can't get it to work how I want05:19
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: downloaded it though05:19
JohnFlux$ adept05:19
JohnFluxThe KDE libraries are not designed to run with suid privileges.05:19
JohnFluxheh05:19
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: KDE won't allow it :)05:19
[BU] BrizzI installed it as root so it would install to the system paths, but it tells me symlink: permission denied when I try to run it as a user05:19
[BU] Brizzhehe no problem, it's not that big of a deal05:19
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: what do you type to run it as a user?05:20
[BU] Brizzgoogleearth05:20
[BU] Brizzthere is a symlink in .usr.local.bin05:20
[BU] Brizz.=/05:20
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: where does the symlink point to?05:21
[BU] Brizzbut it has the same permissions and rights as other symlinks in that folder05:21
[BU] Brizz/usr/local/google-earth/googleearth05:21
JohnFluxwhat are the rights on that?05:21
winbondwhere can i get the cource code of the kernell thats in kubuntu 6.06?05:21
winbonds05:21
[BU] Brizzroot:root05:21
JohnFluxwinbond: apt-cache search kernel05:21
JohnFluxwinbond: it will be there somewhere ;)05:21
[BU] Brizzand I'm still not sure how to read the rights, but it says lrwxrwxrwx05:21
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JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: no that's the symlink05:22
[BU] Brizzoh yah lol05:22
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: that's always that for symlinks05:22
winbondso i should have a source on my pc already?05:22
JohnFluxwinbond: probably nmot05:22
JohnFluxnot05:22
[BU] Brizzokay on that one the rights are foo:user -rwxr-xr-x05:22
[BU] Brizzthis is like a script, though05:22
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: what about for the directory it's in05:22
[BU] Brizzit runs googleearth-bin in the same directory05:23
JohnFluxwinbond: do "uname -a"05:23
[BU] Brizzroot:root drwxr-xr-x05:23
JohnFluxwinbond: and paste the result05:23
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: that looks okay05:23
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Drakesonsomething really amuses me. How popular is kubuntu dapper? I encounter this name way too much in various places. I think someone could do a market share analysis ;)05:23
winbondi need to download it because lan driver needs it to install itself05:23
davidukany one know a good erp that works with dapper or a tinyerp guide?05:23
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JohnFluxDrakeson: google distrowatch05:24
JohnFluxDrakeson: they do the market share analysis05:24
winbondJohnFlux: 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux05:24
DrakesonJohnFlux: distrowatch is not a good measure ;)05:24
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JohnFluxDrakeson: best there is though I think05:24
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JohnFluxwinbond: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1505:24
JohnFluxwinbond: that should install to /usr/src/linux-2.6.15  probably05:25
DrakesonJohnFlux: is there anything in google?05:25
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Drakesonlike say google trends, ...05:25
JohnFluxdunno05:25
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Drakesonsomething that gives you the webbrowser/OS stats05:25
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winbondJohnFlux: good info , thank you05:26
JohnFluxwinbond: why do you want it btw?05:26
[BU] BrizzJohnFlux: any idea what this means??05:26
[BU] Brizzbah hold on05:27
winbondJohnFlux: i want to update my lan card driver and it needs the kernel source to either install itself or make a kernell patch05:27
JohnFluxwinbond: ah, yeah that it might05:27
JohnFluxwinbond: you might get away with just the headers though05:27
[BU] BrizzJohnFlux: this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/CtAAIV60.html05:27
JohnFluxwinbond: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-2305:27
JohnFluxwinbond: that will be smaller to download05:27
[BU] BrizzI get it every time I run a shell script from terminal05:28
JohnFluxwinbond: that might be sufficent05:28
winbondJohnFlux: im kind of new , not sure what headers are05:28
JohnFluxwinbond: it's...05:28
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JohnFluxwinbond: like the blueprints of a car05:28
JohnFluxwinbond: you can't actually drive it or use it in anyway05:29
winbondJohnFlux: ahh05:29
JohnFluxwinbond: but often all an add-on needs is to know where to put itself05:29
JohnFluxwinbond: that's gotta be the worst analogy ever given here :)05:29
JohnFluxbut it's close05:29
winbondJohnFlux: i get the point though05:30
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DaSkreechWell that didn't work05:32
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[BU] BrizzJohnFlux: sorry, Google Earth crashed me lol05:32
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JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: heh.  lots of people on slashdot complained about the same thing05:33
erik__are there any debs of gnash?05:33
winbondwhen i installed mandrake 2006 , it fried my nvidia lancard, so al li have left is the marvell giga lan "built in" and the driver from ubuntu works but makes any larger download time out05:33
[BU] BrizzJohnFlux: I've gotten it to run as sudo and it's pretty good, but I got all kinds of graphical smearing05:33
[BU] Brizznot that I have a great card in this machine...05:33
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[BU] Brizzwinbond: could be an MTU problem05:34
winbond[BU] Brizz: 1500 standard , right?05:35
[BU] Brizztypically :)05:35
[BU] Brizzbut some internet connections are 1482 or something05:35
[BU] BrizzDSL especially05:35
winbond[BU] Brizz: do you know where the settings for it is?05:36
[BU] BrizzI can't remember, I did it from the command line before05:36
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[BU] Brizzit was something like ifconfig eth0 mtu 145005:36
cox377U stilll about john?05:36
winbond[BU] Brizz: i have cable ,and dlink router05:36
[BU] Brizz1500 shouold be fine05:36
[BU] Brizzbut you could lower it just to test05:36
winbond[BU] Brizz: ill try ,ty05:37
[BU] Brizznp :)05:37
cox377i addedd "1280x1024" to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file restarted and it's\ not available under system settings05:37
erik__anyone tried gnash?05:37
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winbondcox377: you have nvidia or ati?05:37
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cox377unforutnatly not05:38
cox377it's a05:38
purucho#kubuntu-es05:38
[BU] Brizzerik__: unfortunately, no05:38
cox377Device"VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video"05:39
winbondcox377: haha , i forgot there are still other companies around making video cards05:39
cox377lol05:39
cox377its an onboard card on a MSI motherboard05:39
[BU] Brizzcox377: are you sure your card supports that resolution?05:39
v3ctorS3 are horiible05:39
cox377the other machine i install Kubuntu was no name and it supports 100's of rez's05:39
cox377yeh i bet05:39
cox377the only things that are supported are05:39
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winbondcox377: i dont know anything about s3 , sry05:40
cox377"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"05:40
winbondcox377: see if they have any linux drivers05:40
cox377opps05:40
cox377"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"05:40
cox377and i added the 128005:40
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[BU] Brizzwell one thing is that 1280x1024 is not square05:41
cox377:s05:41
[BU] Brizzit's 1280x96005:41
cox3771280x1024 is what i ran on my M$ machine thats why i tried that05:41
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cox377but surely.. which ever size it is it should show up in the system settings05:42
cox377providing it's been added05:42
v3ctorit won't show what the card dpes not support05:42
[BU] Brizzproviding your card supports it iirc05:42
[BU] Brizztechnically it might support 1280x960 and not 1280x102405:42
v3ctorprevents you from using unstable settings05:42
[BU] Brizzhere is some Debian related help on your same mobo from what I can gather: http://www.debianhelp.org/module-pnForum-viewtopic-topic-10154.html05:43
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romeo5kkkathman05:43
romeo5ku here?05:43
cox377cheers for that05:44
[BU] Brizznp hth :)05:44
kkathmanhi romeo5k :)05:44
romeo5khi05:44
romeo5k hope u not busy...05:44
kkathmannot at the moment :)05:44
romeo5ki wanted to tell u something.. remmeber  me  right??05:44
kkathmanyes05:45
kkathmanfrom last evening05:45
romeo5kok.. i found out the solution about the nvdia chipset.. yes from last evening05:45
romeo5kwell at least on my mobo that is....05:45
kkathmanromeo5k:  excellent!! Glad you found out.. can you share that...because others need that information :)05:46
romeo5ki have the A8N VM- CSM.. in case someone comes with the same prob05:46
kkathmanhmm ok..thats a different card than Im used to seeing05:46
romeo5kthis may sound stupid.. but believe me it makes sense05:46
romeo5kno A8Nvm CSM is the mobo..05:46
kkathmanahh ok05:47
kkathmannot a separate card05:47
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romeo5kno..........05:47
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Tallia1Kubuntuisn't there anybody that likes the way ICQ or Skype chat works? i have to say that is convenient to leave messages even when the other buddy is offline... it's something that is completely missing in MSN, isn't it????05:47
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BazziTallia1Kubuntu: MSN 8 has it05:49
Tallia1Kubuntu???05:49
Tallia1Kubuntuin kopete this doesn't work ...05:49
BazziMSN 8 is still beta05:49
Tallia1Kubuntuanyway this have been a CHANGE in the protocol right?05:49
kkathmanromeo5k:  if that was the case, on the mobo, I wonder if you could have just installed the driver, before you installed the OS05:49
Bazziand still way off till others implement it05:49
kkathmansome allow that, but I dont know if your mobo doesnt aht or not05:50
kkathmanI have an ASUS mobo, and I can load drivers external to the OS05:50
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romeo5kkkathman ... the trick is... being that i have Windows installed on a whole diffeerent HDD.. it didnt matter.... i cannot restart the computer or nothing.. What i have to do is turn off the computer, and unplug the power cord for about 5 secs... then restart and boot to kubuntu05:51
[BU] Brizzheh MSN doesn't work on Kubuntu! :P05:52
kkathmanromeo5k:  ohh hmm interesting.05:52
[BU] Brizzsilly Bazzi05:52
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: Bazzi?05:52
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: MS keeps breaking the protocol05:52
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[BU] Brizzyah they all do05:52
romeo5kkkathman.. i knowit sounded stupid but thats the truth05:52
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: It's silly you for using a proprietary closed protocol controlled by a company known to break it :P05:52
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: jabber doesn't05:53
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kkathmanromeo5k:  yes thats very odd05:53
[BU] BrizzI'm okay if Google would just port Google Talk and give it plugin support05:53
romeo5kkkathman.. its like a  bug that windows will not allow it to boot...05:53
[BU] Brizzthen people could add whatever they wanted05:53
romeo5kbrb05:53
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JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: gmail works in mozilla05:53
kkathmanromeo5k:  haha  well imagine my surprised :)05:53
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: I use that at the moment05:53
kkathmanhehe05:53
JohnFlux[BU] Brizz: (that uses jabber)05:53
v3ctorgoogle talk is just jabber05:53
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[BU] BrizzJabber isn't Google Talk but yes vice versa :p05:54
[BU] BrizzJabber doesn't do voice iirc05:55
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serenityhi05:55
JohnFluxhi05:56
JohnFluxserenity: would you like a drink?05:56
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serenitysince i updated my fiefox to 1.5.0.4 it's buggy. FF freezes for probably 30 secs but without a reason and every 5 mins (approx.)05:57
serenityJohnFlux: take one of ur choice05:57
JohnFluxserenity: it didn't happen on a previous firefox?05:57
serenityno05:57
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skipster23how can i watch windows media clips in firefox05:57
serenityjust in the moment i updated05:57
JohnFluxserenity: usually I'd say it's dns problem, but doesn't sound like it in this case05:58
v3ctorskipster23: mozilla-mplayer05:58
serenityno, konqueror does the job fine05:58
skipster23thanks05:58
serenityand has the same dns setting05:58
JohnFluxskipster23: this is a 32-bit machine?05:58
skipster23yes05:58
JohnFluxskipster23: should be okay then05:58
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cox377when i try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8606:00
cox377i tells me it's not installed06:01
cox377when i try and get it ussing06:01
[BU] Brizzin Ubuntu it's like xorg-xfree86 or something06:01
cox377ahh right06:02
cox377is that the same as kubuntu?06:02
DaSkreechYes06:02
serenityJohn: another idea about ff?06:04
JohnFluxserenity: sorry none06:04
cox377xorg-xfree8606:04
cox377is that definatly is?>06:04
cox377it*06:04
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serenitygonna re-install firefox06:07
JohnFluxserenity: I've never seen reinstalling work06:08
JohnFluxserenity: maybe wait a few days and just upgrade again06:08
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VoseI restarted my PC and the k menu and bar at the bottom is gone? Anyone one know hot to get it back06:10
DrBairpress alt-f2 to get the run dialog06:12
DrBairkicker06:12
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PhilHydeHey folks. Anyone care to answer an annoying KDE question?06:19
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v3ctorwe won;t know until you ask06:19
PhilHyde:)06:19
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v3ctorthen we will all pretend to be afk06:20
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PhilHydeOK. When I upgraded from KDE3.4 in Breezy to 3.5 in Dapper, the behaviour of some programs changed, most notably Kate and Konversation:06:20
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PhilHydeWhen invoked, they maintain one single process. In 3.4 they restored and gained focus when invoked. Now they just flash on the taskbar, but don't restore. Any idea how I can bring that behavior back?06:22
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Quick_silver!de06:22
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de06:22
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VoseDrBair I tryed the command kicker but nothing?06:23
serenityhow to install a *.bin file?06:23
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paloLet's say I have a folder which I contains code and cvs info, I recently set up a new cvs server and want to switch it over, but anytime I try to commit the changes to the new server, the info already present tries to commit it to the old one, is there any way to convert a cvs directory tree to a new repository, or do I have to go in manually and pull out the files I need?06:23
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DrBairVose: try running konsole and running kicker in there, see if it errors out06:25
Raito>I'm getting a new computer (a laptop) what are the best things to take note of to make it compatible with Kubuntu very well? Also do I want intergrated graphics or seperate?06:25
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DrBairserenity: have your hand on the googleearth beta?06:25
serenityRaito: try the live-cd06:25
paloDrBair, it's nice06:25
Vosekicker is already running!06:25
serenityDrBair: yes...mighty oracle06:25
VoseDrBair06:26
Raitono, I don't already have the computer, I am asking what kind of computer should I buy?06:26
DrBairserenity: lol, just make it executable and run it. Either as root or a user depending whether you want it installed system wide or just for you06:26
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Vosegave me the error that it is already runing. DrBair06:27
DrBairRaito: the intel integrated video works good, so does nvidia. Stay far far away from ATI06:27
DaSkreechPhilHyde: I just use Alt+Ctrl=A06:27
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Voseoh I found it slid to a small thing in the corrner? DrBair?06:27
PhilHydeDaSkreech: Use it to do what?06:27
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RaitoThanks, anything else I should take note of?06:27
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serenityRaito: check this linux-laptop.net06:28
DrBairRaito: wireless... atheros, ralink are nice06:28
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Raitothanks, this is the perfect site06:28
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DaSkreechPhilHyde: Any time a program flashes Alt+Ctrl+A will pop it up in focus06:29
devlinhow long should it take to repartition a 80G drive during installation. Its supposedly has been at it for a while now but no drive light activity is  showing...06:29
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RaitoI know this isn't a general computer channel, but what is the difference between intergrated and seperate graphics?06:30
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devlinbuilt on the motherboard / not built on the motherboard06:30
PhilHydeTurns out I've mapped Ctrl+Alt+A to something else. Is there a setting for "restore when made active"?06:30
DrBairRaito: but its almost always built into the board on laptops06:31
PhilHydeOr something like that06:31
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Raitook, so there are no real disadvantages to having a built in graphics card as long as I get intel or Nvidia?06:31
DaSkreechYes there is06:31
DaSkreechUnder Accesibilty (sp)06:32
Raitowhat is that?06:32
elBartowhere do I chnge the list for grub?06:32
DrBairRaito: right... intels may be even better because the drivers are OSS06:33
Raitoso with intel I basically don't need to install drivers because kubuntu has them automatically?06:33
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winbonddoes anyone know hot to permanently set the mtu size so it doesnt reset on reboot?06:34
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DaSkreechPhilHyde: Hello?06:35
DaSkreechFound it>06:35
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v3ctorwinbond: there is an mtu option for the interfaces file..i think06:36
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v3ctorman interfaces06:37
DrBairRaito: Right... and they're more likely to support emerging X stuff06:38
winbondv3ctor: can you tell me where the man interfaces are plz?06:40
PhilHydeDaSkreech: Sorry, AFK for a mo06:41
v3ctoropen konsole and type man interfaces06:41
weedar__just type "man interfaces" in a console window winbond06:41
DaSkreechok06:41
PhilHydeYou say you've found it?06:41
PhilHydeOr were you asking me? Can't tell whether that ">" is meant to be "." or "?" up there.06:42
winbondweedar: ok ,ty06:42
DaSkreech?06:45
DaSkreech:-)06:45
DaSkreechPhilHyde: lt in KControl or System Settings under Regional and Accessibility06:46
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PhilHydeDaSkreech: What is?06:46
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DaSkreechThe Keyboard Shortcut06:48
DaSkreechIt's called Activate Window Demanding attention06:48
PhilHydeAhh, I wasn't looking for a keyboard shortcut; I was looking for the option to make applications restore when invoked.06:49
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DaSkreechAh.. Ahm I'm not sure06:51
DaSkreechPhilHyde: Whats the issue again? You upgraded and what?06:51
visik7!pd06:52
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, visik706:52
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PhilHyde(re: Kate, Konversation) When invoked, they stay as one single process (for instance, I've mapped "start Kate" to Ctrl+Alt+K). In 3.4 they restored and gained focus when invoked in that way. Now they just flash on the taskbar, but don't restore. Any idea how I can bring that behavior back?06:52
DaSkreechah ok06:53
DaSkreechHave you asked in #kde?06:53
PhilHydeNot yet. Suppose I should then :) Thanks!06:53
DaSkreechSure :) Let me know what the fix is ok?06:54
PhilHydeWill do06:54
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lwizardlwhat do i have to install so that transcode can convert videos to h.264 codec?06:59
gallag_Is there any program for neatly printing as many photos in as few pages as possible -- like the windows photo printing wizard?07:00
gallag_lwizardl: install ffmpeg, libxine-extracodecs07:01
gallag_lwizardl: I;m not /sure/ that will do it, bit it's worth a try07:01
winbond....how can i completely remove kde a xserver and its deps and reinstall it from scratch?07:01
leafwhow can one find out the screen resolution of a tty?07:02
gallag_winbond: why would you want to?07:02
leafwwhat is the correspondence of 1280x854 to vga=??? in the boot loader config file?07:02
leafwgoogle is silent07:02
gallag_leafw: I do not know07:02
BlankBgallag_: I was looking for that the other day. The '07:03
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BlankBgallag_: contact sheet' style stuff.07:03
winbondgallag_: because i was messing with xgl and everytime i shutdown pc it crashes07:03
BlankBgallag_: there is a progam with imagemagick called montage that may work for you.07:04
gallag_BlankB: good to know -- I;m not alone07:04
gallag_BlankB: ah-ha!07:04
gallag_BlankB: I'll look at that07:04
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dognewshello07:05
devlin-7can anyone tell me why Kubuntu won't repartition my HD?  I have an 80G HD, only 5G's are used... I keep getting an error when I tell it to resize my partition saying "Failed to create enough space for installation.07:06
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dognewsI've got a problem with installing mencoder on my kubuntu system - I can't find a package with adept and nothing in any forums about it. Could anyone help me?07:07
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DaSkreechwinbond: You can do it from adept07:07
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winbondDaSkreech: yeah , but i dont know which commands07:09
DaSkreechwinbond: Just right click on the XGLserver and purge07:09
DaSkreechAnything that depends on it will be removed as well07:09
winbondDaSkreech: where is the purge option?07:10
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DaSkreechwinbond: right click on the package in adept07:10
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winbonddo you guys have apps fail to start sometimes? like the adept07:11
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koshwinbond: nope07:11
davidso, is there any way to get the window key to open the k menu?07:12
leafw!xgl07:12
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:12
winbondwird , happens a lot for me07:12
dognewswinbond: I had a problem with adept starting too the other day - adept started again after having logged out and logged in the user again07:13
[BU] Brizzhow do I change permission on a symbolic link?07:13
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PhilHydeDaSkreech: The response was 20 minutes of silcence from over 250 people.07:15
PhilHyde*silence07:15
DaSkreechPhilHyde: You gotta expect that :) they are hard at work on breaking 3.5.3 :)07:16
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PhilHydeFair enough :)07:16
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[BU] Brizzhow do I change permission on a symbolic link?07:16
davidso, is there a way to make the window key open the k menu?07:16
[BU] BrizzI tried chown but it just changed the file that was linked to07:17
david[BU] Brizz: did you try running "kdesu konqueror"07:17
davidand then right clicking07:18
davidand then messing with the permissions?07:18
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dognewsdoes anyone of you have mencoder on his system?07:20
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davidso, how come my icons won't line up to the grid on the desktop, even though i have the option checked?07:20
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winbondso many questions so little time07:25
davidso, how come my icons won't line up to the grid on the desktop, even though i have the option checked?07:25
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winbondwhat is the best recent book on linux in general , not concentrating on any distro07:26
Bazziwinbond: you mean concentrating on the kernel? ;)07:26
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Bazzij/k07:26
DrBairdavid: doesn't do it here either07:26
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leniniahola tengo una pregunta... no se instalar programas , me podeis ayudar07:29
leninia??07:29
DaSkreech!tell leninia about es07:29
DrBairdavid: there is a fix for it if you are interested07:30
bleaked_so, perhaps i am doing something wrong, or looking in the wrong place, but i cannot find a feature i know exists.  when i ran debian (w/ kde) in konq there was an option to split the file browswer view into two, then embed konsole into one of the split views AND have both views link together.  (so when you would change directories, it would do the action on both views) -- was this not included with kubuntu, or is this a plug-in, or?07:30
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DaSkreechCan I get Amarok to filter on path names?07:33
BlankBbleaked_: is it in Konqueror ....view -> Split view?07:34
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DrBairbleaked_: sounds cool, but i can't find it anywhere07:37
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BlankBbleaked_: what distro where you running that had that?07:37
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bleaked_BlankB: debian sid07:39
bleaked_like 5 months ago07:39
bleaked_seemed like a standard feature of konq07:39
fyrmedicIs there a good video editor that is in the repositories for Breezy07:40
fyrmedic?07:40
bleaked_BlankB: DrBair: yea, it was in the konq, View | Split View menu07:40
defryskkino07:40
fyrmedicok I'll try it thankx07:40
bleaked_fyrmedic: still on breezy?07:40
defryskbleaked_, its stil inthere07:41
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defryskbleaked_, vieuw split view07:41
bleaked_yea, i was making more of a general comment.. i hated breezy..dapper has it all..07:41
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bleaked_defrysk: i don't see an option to embed konsole into one of the split views07:42
winbondwhat is a good recent book on linux in general , not concentrating on any distro07:42
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fyrmedicyeah07:42
bleaked_winbond: if you're looking for just that, you'll only be addressing the linux kernel.  a distro-specific book is probably your only option.07:43
bleaked_i could be wrong though..07:43
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neoclixwww.neoclix.com07:44
neoclixwww.neoclix.com07:44
neoclixwww.neoclix.com07:44
neoclixwww.neoclix.com07:44
neoclixwww.neoclix.com07:44
neoclixwww.neoclix.com07:44
neoclixwww.neoclix.com07:44
neoclixwww.neoclix.com07:44
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Mirnothis is spam I say07:44
neoclixno it is not a spam07:44
bleaked_neoclix: jerk.07:44
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neoclixit is a good site07:45
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neoclixcreated by me07:45
neoclixno virusez07:45
neoclixno spam07:45
morrowand no visitors07:45
neoclixi guarantee07:45
winbondbleaked_: well i looked at the ubuntu book and it was all nub stuff, i learned all that in windows07:45
hybridneoclix: you may wana lo into the CoC07:45
neoclixit is with vizitors07:45
defryskneoclix, you can get banned for this07:45
defryskneoclix, so shush07:45
neoclixno problem i accept07:46
neoclixthe bann07:46
hybridneoclix: you may wanna look into the CoC07:46
Mirnoneoclix: yes created by you, I'm sure, and you advertise it on an unrelated channel, this is unsolicited publicity, you channel spammer :p07:46
neoclixok07:46
neoclixbye bye07:46
Mirnoneoclix: and non sololy you spam, but you flood too :)07:46
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defryskthat makes him a flammer07:47
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hybridlol07:47
Escorohi, do anyone know any software for linux which would suport tracker downloading, like BitComet or utorrent on windows?07:48
bleaked_winbond: yea..  well to be honest i don't know of any books.  i learned linux purely by trial and error.. through my struggles and triumphs, forums, and mostly talking with these fools on irc, i just absorb it all over time.  for me, books are terrible at teaching technical things.. i enjoy novels :D  -- but yea, a lot of people benefit from them and so i'm sure some decent ones exist.. somewhere.   good luck.07:48
bleaked_Escoro: have you tried ktorrent?07:48
defryskEscoro, ktorrent version 207:48
Escorook thanks07:48
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bleaked_defrysk: is that in the reps?07:50
defryskthe version one is in the repos07:50
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defryskbleaked_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188530 is the one i use , its better then the one in the repos07:51
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doktoreashi to all07:53
bleaked_lo07:54
jarook.. here is a question07:54
DaSkreechwinbond: Check orielly.com07:54
doktoreaswhy i can get install package with pat-get07:54
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doktoreas*apt-get07:54
doktoreasand with grphical tool i can't found anything?07:54
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jaroI have got a problem with the firmware of my Cinergy Terratec Hybrid XS  USB device07:54
DaSkreechdoktoreas: Can you ask that again in a different way?07:55
doktoreasusing graphical tool can't found any package to install07:55
doktoreasusing apt-get it's ok...07:55
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DaSkreechdoktoreas: There are no packages in adept?07:57
doktoreasDaSkreech: the default one yes07:59
doktoreasbut search one doesn't work07:59
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doktoreasfor example mozilla is not found07:59
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LiteHeddedcan someone help me with my ati problem?07:59
DaSkreechdoktoreas: It sometimes takes a little while for the filter to sort08:00
DaSkreechHow long have you waited?08:00
DaSkreech!ask08:00
ubotuFor information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:00
doktoreasa lot08:00
DaSkreechHave you removed any of the checkboxes under the search bar08:01
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DaSkreechor are they all still checked?08:01
LiteHeddedI did ask08:01
LiteHeddedbut allow me to expand08:01
LiteHeddedmy ati isn't working after following the install instructions on the wiki08:01
LiteHeddedstill shows the mesa driver08:02
LiteHeddedno one?08:03
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LiteHeddedsee this is why I ask if anyone can help without taking the time to explain the issue in detail.08:05
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DrBairLiteHedded: The question was a bit vague08:06
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LiteHeddedwell I try and guage interest in a channel befoe taking the time to go into detail08:07
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DaSkreechLiteHedded: Have you tried in #ubuntu-xgl?08:09
DaSkreechThey are much more likely to have the ATI Drivers :-) so they might have better fixes08:09
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DaSkreechMake it clear that you are not XGelling though08:09
woxxyhi all :DD08:10
LiteHeddedno didn't know about that channel i'll try it08:10
LiteHeddedthnx!08:10
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eckerWhere can i get the exact  HorizSync / VertRefresh for my IBM thinkpad laptop, I googled and googled08:11
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mindspiti want to add more sources to install other (more than standar) packets to kubuntu08:15
mindspitcan i ?08:15
mindspiti guess i need apt08:15
mindspitap-get installation sources08:15
crimsun_mindspit: sure, but it's not recommended because we're not necessarily binary-compatible08:16
hybridmindspit: what are you adding?08:16
mindspitfor example i need mup or mc to be installed08:16
mindspitmc mainy08:16
crimsun_mc as in midnight command?08:16
crimsun_+er08:16
mindspitsudo apt-get install mc08:16
mindspityes thats right!08:16
bleaked_so why is there no Window menu in konq?08:17
crimsun_right, that's in universe. Just enable that.08:17
crimsun_!info mc08:17
ubotumc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 2073 kB, Installed size: 5952 kB08:17
bleaked_was it taken out in the kubuntu profile?08:17
mindspitbut i really want a command prompt tool like mc08:17
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DaSkreechbleaked_: Huh?08:18
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LiteHeddedNoUse: are you in #flood?08:19
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CaBlGuY!enlightenment08:20
ubotuI heard enlightenment is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7915508:20
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mindspitso is there an easy way to get those unstable (not necessarily binary-compatible) ... can i get such an apt-get installation source ?08:21
mindspitdo you know any?08:21
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bleaked_DaSkreech: in konqueror, on every kde distro i have ever used, there is a Window menu (part of the main toolbar)08:24
bleaked_DaSkreech: it has quite a few VERY useful features that are no longer accessible..08:24
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bleaked_so does anyone have a Window menu in konqueror?08:30
bleaked_i feel like i'm going insane.08:30
fekwindow menu?08:31
fekwtf?08:31
fekubuntu isn't windows :P08:31
nixternal`2gothat would be Kubuntu isn't windows ;p08:32
nixternal`2goalthough i shouldn't talk since im on my laptop which is ubuntu ;(08:32
hybridnixternal`2go: imbrandon like Kubuntu like Windows08:33
bleaked_fek: obviously, but in EVERY install of kde i have ever used, konqueror has a "Window" menu.  this is standard.. even the kde docs talk about it.08:34
fekbleaked_: you mean a setup-assistent?08:34
bleaked_what?08:34
bleaked_no, in konqueror08:34
fekbleaked_: don't understand what you excatly mean08:34
fekdo you have any screenshots?08:34
bleaked_sure, this one guy over in #debian-kde took one for me..08:35
bleaked_one sec08:35
fekok08:35
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bleaked_http://img391.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot39na.png  Now look at the konq window on the bottom right, it has a Window menu, with the split view options (now located in the View menu in kubuntu..why??) and it has the "Show Terminal Emulator" option -- basically you can split your file browswer views, link them, and embed konsole in one of them.. it's great and it's missing in kubuntu.08:37
bleaked_i think this might have to do with the kubuntu file browser profile08:38
fekah, i understand08:38
bleaked_but still, i'm having a hard time finding the terminal emulator feature anywhere.08:38
fekwhere you can cascade or sort windows08:38
fekbleaked_: perhaps you don't have this menu, because your konuqueror supports tabbing08:39
fekand perhapsp if you are able to deactivate this support, you get the menu back08:39
bleaked_what does that have anything to do with it?08:39
fekbecause with tabbing, thins menu is senseless08:39
mindspiti need a comand prompt command to install w32codecs08:39
fekmindspit: alt+f2 -> konsole08:39
mindspiti downloaded w32codecs08:39
fekor xterm or whatever08:40
bleaked_mindspit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:40
mindspitok08:40
mindspitok08:40
fekbleaked_: don't find any option concerning the tabbing behaviour :(08:41
bleaked_i want to cry08:41
bleaked_i've been asking around for weeks now08:41
bleaked_every distro just has it08:41
bleaked_kubuntu people are clueless..08:42
bleaked_they've never heard of it08:42
bleaked_and i show them this screenshot and they're baffled08:42
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fekbleaked_: calm down, dude :)08:42
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bleaked_i'm alright..sorry08:42
fekbleaked_: hear to joda ;)08:42
mindspitUBUNTU is powerfull! i loved it ... i !!!!was!!! a SuSE user!08:43
bleaked_it's just frustrating using debian for years and having such a basic feature..then going to another kde-based distro and no one's heard of the feature.08:43
fekbleaked_: could you ask the debian-guy please, if his konqueror supports tabbing?08:44
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apokryphosmindspit: welcome :)08:44
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fekmindspit: you used therefore a linux without any bash?08:44
bleaked_fek: you can see in that screenshot an option to open a new tab.08:45
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fekbleaked_: correct. hmm08:45
fekconfusing08:45
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fekbleaked_: can't belive, that this is a configure option08:45
DaSkreechbleaked_: have you tried Ctrl+Shift+T?08:46
fekDaSkreech: what should that do?08:47
DaSkreechSplit the window08:47
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DaSkreechHorizontally08:47
LpadminAre there any programs for Linux that can open .dwg files?08:47
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DarkRavenMixagehow can i assign the ed2k protocol to amule, to assign ed2k links to amule directly?08:47
DaSkreechI don't know if he wants it vertically08:47
fekbleaked_: i am sorry, can't help you :(08:48
bleaked_yargh..08:48
bleaked_i figured it out.08:48
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DaSkreechbleaked_: Ctrl+Shift+t works?08:48
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bleaked_i added the Show Terminal Emulator button through the toolbar config08:49
bleaked_DaSkreech: no, does nothing08:49
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DaSkreechWhich KDE are you using?08:49
winbonddoes anyone have the xgl working on the kde with ati x800 card?08:49
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bleaked_when i was looking in the list for that button, i was looking under the 'T's, since i did not know it was "Show Terminal.."08:50
bleaked_DaSkreech: 3.5.208:50
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DaSkreech!tell winbond about XGL08:50
bleaked_this feature is such an asset, i cannot believe the default profile would hide it.08:50
bleaked_tell me about xgl, i need some good links :D08:51
winbondDaSkreech: i red the guides , can get it to work08:51
winbondread08:51
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bleaked_!tell bleaked about XGL08:51
DaSkreechwinbond: I meant the Channel :)08:52
DaSkreechthey can help more than  most here can08:52
winbondDaSkreech: ok , ty , channel is dead tho08:52
DaSkreech?08:52
DaSkreechoh no one responds :)08:52
DaSkreechbleaked_: Does Ctrl+Shift+L do anything?08:53
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MikeMcA_Hi.  I've just installed kubuntu on my laptop.  It's working great except for suspend - when reactivating after a suspend I hear the drives spin up and the fan turn on, but the screen stays black.  Any idea how to fix?  Thanks!08:53
jfarrellhey all08:53
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CaBlGuY!jasper08:53
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY08:53
jfarrellwhere is the KDE directory by default08:53
jfarrelli am trying to install kdiff308:53
DrBairMikeMcA_: What video driver?08:53
jfarrelland it want me to speficy the kde directory, where is it at by default?08:54
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MikeMcA_erm, not sure.  It's a dell inspiron 5160.08:54
jfarrellanyone08:55
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bleaked_DaSkreech: yea, they both work.. i was doing ctrl-alt08:57
DaSkreechbleaked_: Oh phew08:57
DaSkreechI was getting Worried08:57
bleaked_DaSkreech: i'm going to go drink some tea and calm down before i lose it.08:57
DaSkreechTo close a view use Ctrl+Shift+R08:58
jfarrellwhere is the KDE directory by default08:58
bleaked_or at least delve into any more projects08:58
DaSkreechbleaked_: Cheers!08:58
bleaked_:D08:58
bleaked_jfarrell: well, what kde directory are you talking about..there are many..08:58
bleaked_for settings, or actual kde components?08:58
jfarrellbleaked_: i am trying to install kdiff308:59
jfarrellit just jsays, give the path of your kde3 directory08:59
bleaked_jfarrell: it's in the repos08:59
bleaked_sudo aptitude install kdiff308:59
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jfarrellbleaked_: how do i run it then09:00
DrBairMikeMcA_: try changing to vt6 by pressing ctrl-alt-f6, then go to root by 'sudo -s' then sleeping by 'echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep' when you wake it up again press ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to X09:00
darkfusionhey i'm having trouble getting samba to reconize my password in windows09:00
jfarrellkdiff3 at the commandline doesnt work09:00
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jfarrelland i dont see it in the menu09:01
darkfusioni have made the username with smbpasswd09:01
DaSkreechAlrighty09:01
DaSkreechAmarok is flying through my files09:01
CaBlGuYdarkfusion: y are u corrupting samba with winblowz??  :-O09:01
JavaGeekdoes dapper have ntfs read-write support?09:02
DaSkreechRead support09:02
darkfusionbecause winblowz works09:02
CaBlGuYJavaGeek:  nope.. but, u can read and use files..09:02
jfarrellbleaked_: can you think of anything09:02
CaBlGuYdarkfusion:  RiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIiiiiight..   ;)09:02
JavaGeekdamn...09:02
CaBlGuYJavaGeek:  yea, that's what I said.. :/09:02
darkfusioni just made a ubuntu headless server so i wanted to transfer my music and other things to it from windows09:03
CaBlGuYJavaGeek:  I'm sure eventually someone with throw a package together that will support that but, no one has thus far..09:03
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DaSkreechdarkfusion: I normally just use SSH09:04
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jfarrellbleaked_: it says teh same thign apt-get says09:04
CaBlGuYdarkfusion: so, just network the coputers and transfer that way...09:04
jfarrellkdiff3 does not exist09:04
darkfusionbut what if I wanna play the music or video from this windows machine ?09:04
CaBlGuYdarkfusion:  then just copy the files, don't move them...09:05
DaSkreechjfarrell: Do you have universe enabled?09:05
patchhello all. would anyone be able to help me on a seriousl problem?09:05
jfarrellDaSkreech: being as i have no idea what thtat is, i am gonna say no :)09:05
apokryphos!helpme09:05
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)09:05
bleaked_jfarrell: yea, you need to enabled the universe repositories..then it will install.09:05
DaSkreech!tell jfarrell about sources09:05
DaSkreech!tell jfarrell about universe09:06
CaBlGuYserial???  :-O    yea, yur not post to eat it close to your keyboard..  ;)09:06
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patchok ok. just checking this was active.09:06
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patchbasically i tried to upgrade from breezy to dapper09:06
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bleaked_jfarrell: this will help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:06
patchusing synaptic and just updating the repositorys09:06
DaSkreechNOOOOooooo...... >poof<09:06
CaBlGuYhehe09:06
CaBlGuYpatch:  ok..09:06
patchand now my install doesnt work09:07
CaBlGuYahhh   well, can u log in at all??09:07
bleaked_i truly wish all of the ubuntu guides, docs, etc, would recommend aptitude over apt-get -- it will really save a lot of people if they mess up their system.09:07
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patchi can run the debug mode. i.e. command line09:07
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patchand i have and i looked again at my repository list and it turned out i seemed to not have change one of the sources09:08
patchbut i changed that and then tried apt-get09:08
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CaBlGuYHmmmm  well, only thing I can suggest is download Ubuntu base and install clean and go from there...09:08
alex__anyone have a recommedation between NFS and samba?09:09
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DaSkreechlnxKDE: Good three hours sleep?09:09
patchthe only thing i can think of, when looking back is that if i didnt use sudo on the exact command would apt-get not work properly09:09
lnxKDEDaSkreech : well somehow..09:09
patchim not sure whether sudo will 'stay' working on commands after it is used09:09
lnxKDEthen when I got home about 10am09:10
CaBlGuYpatch:  your not the first one who has come in here with problems after doing an upgrade from breezey to Dapper..09:10
lnxKDEI went strait to bed and now I got up09:10
patchit is possibly the log in screen09:10
bleaked_patch: generally it does.. i think it has a idle timeout09:10
lnxKDEso I slept 5 hrs more :)09:10
devlin-7help needed with repartitioning... its driving me mad09:10
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hybriddevlin-7: whats up?09:10
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alex__anyone have networking experience?09:10
CaBlGuYpatch: bout the only thing I could suggest other then what I already did is to hang out and see if another person would be able to help you unfybar your install...09:10
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bleaked_devlin-7: ask questions, not for help.09:10
nixternal`2gowhats up alex__09:10
CaBlGuY*unfubar09:11
alex__hey, i was just looking for a recommendation between NFS and samba09:11
nixternal`2gofor?09:11
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lnxKDEDaSkreech : u liked the post?09:11
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patchbecasue when i run it normally i get the first part of the boot is fine. but then after all the first stuff it just freezes on the splash screen09:11
DaSkreechYes :-)09:11
nixternal`2gounix to unix?  something simple?   want to communicate with windows also?09:11
bleaked_alex__: well, if a windows machine is involved, your only choice is samba.. if anything else, go nfs09:12
alex__i'm trying to network two ubuntu systems09:12
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alex__ones breezy and the others dapper09:12
nixternal`2gonfs09:12
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CaBlGuYpatch:  like I said, your not the first...09:12
lnxKDE:)09:12
nixternal`2gounix to unix use nfs...a little more extreme..however samba is whicked easy to setup09:12
alex__is it pretty complex or straight forward?09:12
CaBlGuY!breezy upgrade09:12
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY09:12
CaBlGuY!upgrade09:12
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)09:12
nixternal`2gonfs is complex...samba is straight forward09:12
alex__so what's the benefit of nfs over samba?09:12
CaBlGuYpatch:  try lookin there..09:13
CaBlGuYmight help09:13
MikeMcA_DrBair: Same result.  System went into standby, I woke it up, screen stayed black.  pressing ctl-alt-F7 had no visible effect.09:13
bleaked_nixternal`2go: pff..right...09:13
alex__pretty much all i want to network is my media files09:13
MikeMcA_DrBair: my graphics card is an XGI Volari-XP5.09:13
nixternal`2gobleaked_: ?09:13
patchthanks. i will go and see what i can do. thanks again.09:13
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patchbye09:13
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snedarhi! is there a way to enable kde's composite manager without restarting kde? I've already set the Composite option in xorg.conf and xcompmgr works, but when I use kde's Window Behavior panel it doesn't work immediately09:13
kkathmanalex__:  use samba if you have windows boxes in your net, otherwise use nfs :)09:13
CaBlGuYpatch:  NP good liuck..  ;)09:13
nixternal`2goeveryone has their perferences..but unless you understand the auto.home and what not...you could do more harm then good with nfs09:14
alex__ok, i'll go with nfs, thanks for the advice09:14
nixternal`2gosamba just works..and is perfect for simple things09:14
kkathmannixternal`2go: zackly09:14
nixternal`2gonfs you can mount your network shares and treat them like local drives09:14
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devlin-7can anyone tell me what is keeping the installer from repartioning my drive. I have plenty of free space but it keeps erroring out saying "Failed to create enough space for installation"09:14
th0m4soh man bsod in the restore partition :(09:14
EvilIdlerI'm using Samba drives like local drives, too09:14
alex__i just want to access my media, so should i use samba for its accessability?09:15
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kkathmannixternal`2go:  you can mount samba shares too09:15
nixternal`2goEvilIdler: as i am too09:15
kkathmanon both sides :)09:15
bleaked_th0m4s: :\09:15
EvilIdlerFor the non-technical, Samba is recommended. For a more unixy system, probably NFS09:15
th0m4sbleaked_: i want to have both os's installed because it is a laptop09:15
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kkathmanalthough Im not sure why you'd mounth them.. they can be queried direct09:15
nixternal`2goth0m4s: vmware09:15
EvilIdlerI can never get permissions to be handled properly with Samba, but I do a bit of cross-platform work, so it's needed :/09:15
th0m4snixternal`2go: i just said it's a laptop do you honestly think09:16
th0m4snumber 1: 200 dollar program09:16
th0m4snumber 2: laptop cpu09:16
nixternal`2govmware = free for linux09:16
kkathmanEvilIdler:  ahh thats an easy issue to fix tho09:16
nixternal`2govmware = running perfectly fine on my laptop right now09:16
th0m4s?????09:16
kkathmanfollow the wiki...its very simple09:16
bleaked_th0m4s: well, windows does not play nice with other OSs, so install windows, then *ubuntu over it.09:16
bleaked_well, not "over" it, but after it.09:16
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nixternal`2goth0m4s: you can download all vmware software for Linux from their site for free09:16
th0m4shuh09:16
nixternal`2goalso, vmware is in the repositories09:16
EvilIdlerkkathman: Yeah, I'll have to look into it. I don't want to show dotfiles, because I have so many and scroll two pages before I get to my sourcecode directory ;)09:17
th0m4saww craps09:17
nixternal`2goim running vmware on every one of my computers here and i haven't paid for any of them..i registered them with vmware and everything too09:17
kkathmanEvilIdler: you can do that09:17
th0m4si fixed the video yesterday to get the correct resolution and now it's reverted back to 800x60009:17
EvilIdlerThen all my sourcecode gets execute flags09:17
kkathmanIve been sharing multiple Linux and win boxes for several years w/samba..no problems09:17
EvilIdlerkkathman: I know the option is there in SWAT, but it's not doing anything. So many options, so little patience :P09:17
DaSkreechWoah09:17
kkathmanlol09:17
kkathmanunderstand09:17
th0m4shjalp!09:17
DaSkreechHow do I release my audio device?09:18
kkathmannot that hard tho09:18
EvilIdlerSupposedly not, although my Samba config is set to hide dotfiles, but isn't doing it :P09:18
DaSkreechJust got an error all Audio Drivers failed to initialize09:18
JavaGeekCaBlGuY: maybe this will work... http://ubuntuos.com/2006/05/readwrite-ntfs-partitions09:19
th0m4smust i run 855resolution every time i reboot?09:19
bleaked_EvilIdler: i would ditch swat, and use the kde embedded samba config in the System Settings09:19
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kkathmanEvilIdler:  one easy way, is just not to share those directories,  pick and choose what you want to share09:19
EvilIdlerbleaked_: Yeah, but I move around between computers so much :)09:20
kkathmando that in Konq.. or at the CLI09:20
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EvilIdlerI'll go back to plain, old smb.conf editing. Only way to have full control :)09:20
kkathmanwell there's something to be said over sharing everything09:20
th0m4sok here's a question09:20
th0m4sif when i reboot my system loses the video bios that says the screen can indeed handle 1280x76809:21
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th0m4sis there a way to add 855resolution to the boot process?09:21
th0m4slike, before x comes up?09:21
EvilIdlerSamba/NFS worries later. Food now.09:21
dmHello. I installed kubuntu 6.06 and have a problem with Konqueror and its interpretation of encodings. Is this the right place to get some help?09:21
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bettyis this the technical support?09:21
th0m4ssometimes09:21
Tivthomas: look in /etc/default/855resolution09:21
slow-motionhallo09:22
nixternal`2gobetty: yes this is09:22
devlin-7can anyone tell me what is keeping the Kubuntu installer from repartioning my drive?09:22
th0m4sTiv: no such file/folder09:22
nixternal`2godevlin-7: are you using text install or LiveCD?09:22
DaSkreechIf anyone knows how to reset Audio drivers ping me09:23
bettythere is a application that is called connect to groovix technical support and i am trying to click on that but it asks me for a number and then stops09:23
nixternal`2goDaSkreech: devmod??? i can't remember off hand09:23
devlin-7didn't see a choice to do a text install... all I saw was the choice to "Run/Install Kubuntu"09:23
nixternal`2goremmod09:23
nixternal`2goi forgot09:23
Tivthomas: or try 915resolution09:23
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lnxKDEDaSkreech : 3rd post our :(09:23
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nixternal`2gook devlin-7 that is the text install cd then..as it didn't boot into Kubuntu Live09:24
th0m4sTiv: the one adept wants me to install?09:24
Tivthomas: yes!09:24
DaSkreechnixternal`2go: Something mod?09:24
th0m4sis that an excited yes or an exhasperated yes09:24
Tivthomas: works fine with i9xx chipsets09:24
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th0m4syes buti have an 855 chipset09:25
devlin-7? I am currently in the live CD..09:25
nixternal`2goDaSkreech: yes, i just can't remember...i had to do it once upon a time..and now i can't remember09:25
Tivthomas: should work anyway, have a look in the description09:25
nixternal`2goi unloaded the driver, and then loaded it to fix an issue or to apply a patch live09:25
th0m4sit's installed is it the exact same usage as 855 or different09:25
Tivthomas: same usage09:26
nixternal`2godevlin-7: are you getting any errors at all?09:26
Tivthomas: you should have a file /etc/default/915resolution09:26
th0m4sTiv: well in 915 it lists the modes just fine, are you suggesting i 'set' the mode again ?09:26
devlin-7nixternal: the only error I am getting is upon repartitioning it stops with an error stating "Failed to create enough space for installation"09:27
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nixternal`2goare you manually doing your partitions or are you letting Kubuntu do the partitions?09:28
Tivthomas: set mode to auto and x y resolution09:28
devlin-7tried both ways... both generate the same erro09:28
Tivthomas: have a look in /etc/rc2.d/ if start skript for 915resolution exists09:28
th0m4swait wait wait09:29
th0m4sset mode to both automatic AND defined?09:29
nixternal`2goare you dual booting devlin-7 ?09:29
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Tivthomas:yes,  mode is not the resolution09:30
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devlin-7I would like too. Its the wifes PC. She is finally willing to try linux but under the condition that she can still access her windows as needed. I didn't have this prob. installing on my pc09:31
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th0m4sdevlin-7: vmware09:31
Schaden|Amokhi09:31
mindspiti can not "see" my "qcam 330 usb pc camera" from linux ... what can i do?09:31
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Hooblyanyone know how to get smb4k working in Dapper?  It worked fine in Breezy and now I get "The account was disabled." error messages09:32
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th0m4sTiv: S12915resolution is in rc2.d09:32
nixternal`2godevlin-7: i have to agree with th0m4s in this situation, as most wives will tend to reject it..however...if you want dual boot then go that way09:33
th0m4si'm going to reboot and see if it worked09:33
Tivthomas: fine, if /etc/default/915resolution is set correct it should work after a reboot09:33
Tivmindspit: modprobe quickcam09:34
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devlin-7I would dual boot... but I can't get Kubuntu installed until I can get the partition resized and a Kubuntu partition created09:35
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bettymy aim screenname is bttymyn09:35
tortho_anyone who knows wat package that does the automount of memory sticks under kde/konqueror it stopped working after ann upgrade from breezy to dapper09:35
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nixternal`2gohey devlin-7 let me ask one of the other guys if they have seen that error, as I can't even locate anything about it09:37
bettyi don't know how to get support09:37
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devlin-7would greatly appricate it. its driving me crazy. Never had this happen on any other PC.09:38
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nixternal`2goi haven't seen this problem at all myself09:39
uniqtortho_: make sure you've got the 'kubuntu-desktop' package installed, then a complete kubuntu desktop system will be installed.09:39
nixternal`2goi asked the dev's if they have seen it, now i am just waiting for a response09:39
tortho_uniq: i'll tell my frind (the one who cant manage to get it work)09:40
JavaGeekCaBlGuY: and it works!09:40
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uniqtortho_: please do. :)09:41
devlin-7nixternal: I was thinking it was the drive until I realized its the same make & model as the one in my PC.09:41
ChefWillwhats up with all the broken icons when i installed kubuntu desktop :(09:41
nixternal`2godevlin-7: how much space are you allocating by the way?09:41
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nixternal`2goi seen in ubuntu earlier you said you have 5 gb used, wanted to use 40gb09:41
nixternal`2goout of an 80gb drive09:42
devlin-7nixternal: It's an 80G drive and I am allocating 39.5G09:42
nixternal`2godevlin-7: you are the only google issue also with the error you get09:42
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tortho_uniq: i know there is a gnome-volume-manager under gnome, so i guess there is one similar for kde09:42
devlin-7lol, it figures....09:43
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nixternal`2gosee...i use text installs...and i setup my swap at 3x my mem at the end of the drive...and then i create all my partitions09:44
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nixternal`2gofor instance..my lappy im on right now...768mb swap @ end of the drive...128mb /boot @ beginning...4.5gb / @ beginning....4.5+gb /home @ beginning09:45
devlin-7with the Kubuntu 6.06 Desktop CD how do you get to a text install?09:45
nixternal`2goi don't know how to on the live cd..i have yet to boot it up...but it looks as i need to so i can be familiar with it09:46
nixternal`2gofrom what i heard though the live cd and qtparted is great for dual booting...i just haven't tried..plus i don't dual boot09:46
devlin-7the only installers I saw on the site were the Desktop, server, and alternate iso's09:47
nixternal`2goalternate = text install09:47
nixternal`2goi got to remember to call it alternate from now on too...as i tend to confuse people ;)09:47
nixternal`2goBrazil 1 - Croatia 009:48
devlin-7are you kidding me? I understood that to be just for ppl upgrading from Breezy so I didn't d/l that one09:48
nixternal`2golol devlin-709:48
nixternal`2goi used the alternate disk to install all of my setups09:48
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ryanakcawhat do I use to burn iso? cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.09:49
nixternal`2gok3b09:49
nixternal`2goryanakca: k3b09:49
nixternal`2goit is awesome09:49
nixternal`2goi used to be a nero freak but k3b ownz it09:49
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devlin-7well... looks like I'm going on my other pc for a sec and start a 2 hour affair with a server to d/l that iso lol09:49
nixternal`2go2 hours?09:49
nixternal`2godon't have cable or dsl?09:49
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devlin-7yep... pokey 768k down DSL... I'm cheap lol09:50
nixternal`2goi believe when you boot also with the live cd..press f6 twice and do expert install09:50
kyle_configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH???09:50
nixternal`2gothat will give you the text install options i beleive09:50
uniqtortho_: yes there is, it's a KDED module. you can check that it's enabled at system settings -> kde resources -> system services - under "startup services" you can find KDED Media Manager. Make sure the "Use" box is ticked. (menus and names are translated on the fly from norwegian, i might have used other words than the ones in the english menus).09:50
nixternal`2gokyle_: what are you configuring?09:50
Tivkyle_:install gcc09:51
kyle_nixternal`2go: ktorrent2.009:51
devlin-7nixternal: do that at the preboot menu or after the live cd loads?09:51
nixternal`2gohmmm...i thought ktorrent2.0 was in the repositories09:51
ryanakcanixternal`2go: k3b uses cdrecord...09:51
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nixternal`2gopreboot menu devlin-709:51
uniqkyle_: install the "build-essential" package, and for KDE apps "kdelibs4-dev" is needed too.09:51
nixternal`2goryanakca: what is wrong with that?09:52
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kyle_Tiv: says it's already installed gcc-4.0-base is already the newest version.09:52
devlin-7will try that now. Thanks will let you know if it helped :)09:52
nixternal`2goi use it and have no issues what so ever09:52
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nixternal`2gok devlin-7 good luck09:52
devlin-7will need it lol09:52
nixternal`2gohehe09:52
SeanTaterdoes SSH support AES?09:52
gretch68hi all09:52
Tivkyle_ why don't you install ktorrent with adept or apt-get09:52
nixternal`2goneed to force her to use Linux anyways ;)09:52
tortho_uniq: takk skal du ha, du kunne spart oversettelsen :-)09:53
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nixternal`2goSeanTater: yes09:53
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uniqtortho_: flott :)09:53
steve343hi all09:53
nixternal`2goit uses AES-128, AES-192, AES-256....09:53
nixternal`2gohey steve34309:53
kyle_Tiv: Because it uses 1.2 and i want 2.0? :P unless you know a source to add that has the newer one?09:53
ryanakcanixternal`2go: k3b uses cdrecord... http://pastebin.com/70721309:54
bleaked_kyle_: yea, there's a howto in the forums09:54
SeanTaternixternal: is it default? Does it make (or is it even possible to make) aes keys?09:54
tortho_uniq: #ubuntu-norge?09:54
uniqtortho_: #ubuntu-no09:54
tortho_uniq ehh-ja..09:54
ChefWillis there a "Take Screenshot" app equivalent in kde?09:54
uniqchefwill: yes, ksnapshot09:54
luksanChefWill: yeah, it's called PrintScreen09:54
bleaked_kyle_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18853009:54
Tivkyle_ try with gcc-3.4 sometimes it won't work with gcc-4.009:55
nixternal`2goSeanTater: i don't know about default...but i know it is in openssh and that you can create keys..howto go about creating them i don't know09:55
nixternal`2goyou check out http://www.openssh.com and see if they have a howto?09:55
uniqseantater: a hint might be the '-c' switch.09:55
Tivkyle_: do a "which gcc" on the cli09:55
nixternal`2goi just used an openssh howto to create keys the other day from somewhere actually09:55
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bleaked_ChefWill: for future reference, i always run: apt-cache search <search query here>09:56
SeanTaternixternal: I looked there for a while to no avail, but I'll look some more..09:56
steve343please dont turn this into a flame war but i use maxathon on windows and am looking for a similarly feature rich browser on linux, which is the "best" for my needs ?09:56
kyle_i got it :D it was just having probems over writing some shared files09:56
bleaked_ChefWill: i also set up a bash alias to make it easier.. so i just type in, 'seek screenshot' and i get a list of available apps that take screenshots. :D09:56
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nixternal`2goi might have found a how-to on the forums or the wiki..i can't remember..but yes the -c switch is what you would use > openssh -c --help might get some more options09:56
ChefWill:P09:56
SeanTateruniq: ssh says Unknown cipher type 'aes' (same for aes128)09:57
kyle_--force-overwrite09:57
ChefWilli just installed kubuntu desktop and there are wayyyyyyyy too many programs trying to sort them09:57
Tivkyle_: package conflict????09:57
SeanTaternixternal: ssh says Unknown cipher type 'aes' (same for aes128)09:57
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nixternal`2goAES-128?09:57
defryskhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188530 is the ktorrent i use , its better then the one in the repos09:57
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defryskand its a .deb09:57
nixternal`2goryanakca: what cd burner are you using?  have you recently recompiled your own kernel?09:58
bleaked_ChefWill: it's just really nice.. espcially for linux.. like i need a cd ripping app, you can just search that and see a nice list and just choose one.  if i'm ever unsure, i do a web search for the app name and decide if i like it.09:58
uniqseantater: alt+f2 type "#ssh" and go. search for '-c' a few times and you'll find a list of ciphers.09:58
SeanTaternixternal`2go: same thing09:58
kyle_Tiv: It just didn't want to overwrite the files from Ktorrent 1,2 because it doesn't delete all of them when u uninstall it(the common files or whatever)09:58
SeanTateruniq: okay  -- looking now09:58
ChefWillyea09:59
ChefWilli lost a lot of icons when i installed kubuntu09:59
ryanakcanixternal`2go: k3b/cdrecord, Compact Disc ReWritabhle Ultra Speed 52x32x52x... No, its the dapper kernel09:59
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SeanTateruniq: ah-ha! Thanks!09:59
jaroHello, does anybody know how to include ICQ in GAIM ??09:59
uniqseantater: no problem :)09:59
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steve343ok is firefox any good?10:00
Tivkyle: try the deb file from defrysk  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18853010:00
jaroHello, does anybody know how to include ICQ in GAIM ??10:00
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defryskjaro, make an icq account10:01
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defryskin gaim10:01
uniqsteve343: yes. but i prefer konqueror as it starts faster and integrates better into KDE :)10:01
steve343use kopete its nicer10:01
defryskkopete same thing10:01
kyle_Tiv: I just got it, just used -force-overright when trying to install the deb file. it works now :)10:01
Tivkyle_: :-)10:01
steve343i will be using konquerer if i'm running other programs but i like an all singing add blocking one too :)10:01
X_Spiderneed help to install kubuntu... The installer can't start qtparted and when i'M stating qtparted in konsole, i'm getting a segmentation fault. I tried to remove all linux partition, verify that my partition was good.. but i didn't find any problem10:02
uniqkyle_: for the record. Using --force options is a bad thing, and you might end up with a broken package database. And you don't want that. (usualy means poor packaging.)10:02
flo_did anyone managed to get to work xgl/compiz on kubuntu? can someone give me the link for a good tutorial on how to makeit?10:03
jaroI have an ICQ account, I already use ICQ on Kopete.. but I cannot chose any ICQ from GAIM10:03
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defryskjaro, yes you can10:03
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jaroit seems like the ICQ-Olugin is missing10:03
SeanTateruniq: so what's the difference between aes128-cbc and aes128-ctr?10:03
kyle_uniq: ya usually i wouldn't but i read up on a few forums and the new kubunu a lot of users have used the --force-overwrite withought a problem so i assumed everything should be good10:03
defryskjaro, no its not10:03
steve343try the gaim forums10:03
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jarowhen I chose: Add Account.... and in the DropDown-Box there is no ICQ available10:04
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defryskjaro, add account and select aim/icq10:04
jaroahhhh10:05
jarothank you10:05
jarosince when is aim and icq the same ?10:05
nixternal`2gobattery is dying...bbiaf10:05
defryskits the very first one </handhold>10:05
jaroi overread icq..10:05
steve343well just to let you guys know i'm already enjoying my kubuntu experience a lot more than my ubuntu one10:05
visik7!restricted10:05
ubotusomebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.10:05
steve343bye10:05
bleaked_hey.. is amarok 1.4 in the dapper release?10:05
jarosure10:05
SeanTaterbleaked_: no10:06
SeanTaterbleaked_: not likely very stable yet10:06
bleaked_ok, just checking.. still need to use the special source10:06
bleaked_hrm.. it's FAR more stable than 1.3.8, that's for sure.10:06
defryskbleaked_, its available tho for dapper10:06
bleaked_but yea, must be tested, etc.10:06
bleaked_defrysk: wait..that's what i just asked..10:06
jarohmm.. is there anything available as good as Miranda is on Windows ?10:06
defryskbleaked_, add this to your repo for the latest amarok :10:07
defryskdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main10:07
CaBlGuY!kopete 0.12.010:08
ubotuCaBlGuY: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:08
CaBlGuY!kopete10:08
ubotuKopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org10:08
bleaked_defrysk: i know, i've been using it for weeks now..i'm just helping a friend get 1.4 going and didn't know if it was included in dapper final.10:08
defryskoic10:09
defrysksorry10:09
[BU] Brizzbleaked_: what is new in 1.4?10:09
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LiteHeddedmy sound stopped working. anybody care to help me out? :)10:10
LpadminWith Dapper?10:10
LiteHeddeddapper10:10
iNikuyeah, Google Earth for linux!10:10
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uniqseantater: you can read all about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_cipher_modes_of_operation10:11
ryanakcawhats the md5sum of the kubuntu dapper iso?10:11
LpadminLiteHedded, was this directly after your upgrade?10:11
ninHerhi all10:11
LiteHeddedno10:12
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LiteHeddedactually after getting ati working10:12
uniqryanakca: you can find them at http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/MD5SUMS10:12
LiteHeddedit did work after my upgrade10:12
DaSkreechjaro: They have been the same for a long time now10:12
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jarowhat has been the same ?10:12
LpadminSorry, I can't be of any help to you. :-(10:13
LiteHeddedD'OH!10:13
DaSkreechAIM and ICQ10:13
jarooh10:13
jaroi didnt know that10:13
DaSkreechBout 4 years at least10:14
jaroKopete and Gaim are much too big on the screen10:14
DaSkreechthe Protocol is called OSCAR10:14
X_Spidersomeone can help me with my problem? the kubuntu install can't start qtparted, and when i'm running qtparted from konsole and choosing my harddisk, i'M getting a segmentation fault10:14
DaSkreechjaro: Just close them :)10:14
jarolol10:14
defryskor get a bigger screen10:14
jarothen i cant chat10:14
jaroon laptop ?10:14
jaro:(10:14
jaroi will, as soon as i have the money10:14
DaSkreechOh you mean teh messaging windows?10:15
ryanakcauniq: those are the ubuntu ones :)10:16
[BU] Brizzdoes anyone know if Kopete .12 binaries are available anywhere yet?10:16
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jaroyes10:16
jarothe messaging windows.. or the Contact List as well10:16
uniqryanakca: eh.. sorry. http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dapper/MD5SUMS10:16
jarothe Contact List is much better organised in Kopete than in Gaim10:16
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ryanakcauniq: lol, ty10:17
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defrysk[BU] Brizz, yes they are10:17
DaSkreechOk My Sound stopped working10:17
[BU] Brizzdefrysk: and they are... where? :)10:17
defrysk[BU] Brizz, wget http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/packages/kopete_3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1_i386.deb10:17
[BU] Brizzthanks :)10:17
DaSkreechhow do I find out what is holding onto /dev/dsp ?10:17
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bleaked_[BU] Brizz: um..omg, so much..it's ridiculous.. i wouldn't use anything less than amarok 1.410:18
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afm\colossushello  everyone10:18
[BU] Brizzbleaked_: just upgrade and already noticing a ton lol10:19
afm\colossuswhich mobile phones are known to work well with Kontact's sync-abilities?10:19
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: If you find a way then I would be interested to know it (I had a similar problem where I couldn't reboot because I was doing a compile - I forcibly removed the sound modules and crashed the machine)10:19
defryskDaSkreech, no sound in dapper ?10:19
bleaked_[BU] Brizz: amazing audio support, crossfading, true gapless playback, improved tagging, new collection features, full ipod support..10:19
bleaked_[BU] Brizz: comparing 1.3.8 to 1.4, is almost like kde 3.3 to 3.510:20
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jaroyay MIranda on Linux10:20
DaSkreechdefrysk: Sound till just a while ago10:20
afm\colossus?10:20
bettyhhhhhhi10:20
DaSkreechIt works from the CLI but not from GUI apps10:20
[BU] Brizzrofl10:21
[BU] Brizzls10:21
defryskDaSkreech, did you install libxine-extracodecs and libarts1-xine ?10:21
DaSkreechdefrysk: I can't play oggs10:21
defryskDaSkreech, ooh10:21
DaSkreechand incidently katapult crashes on use10:22
defryskwhat engine is arts set to DaSkreech ?10:22
buzdefrysk: is that kopete package safe? the other ones i've saw werent10:22
DaSkreechxine10:22
bettyhowwdo 1 find cats/10:22
DaSkreechwait10:22
defryskbuz, works on mine10:22
DaSkreechWhats arts?10:22
DaSkreechIsn't arts the engine?10:22
buzdefrysk: didnt remote other package?10:22
defryskDaSkreech, soundserver10:22
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defryskbuz ?10:23
defryskremove you mean buz ?10:23
buzyes10:23
defrysknope10:23
buzgoo10:23
buzd10:23
buzthx10:23
defryskit simply upped kopete10:23
bettyhow do i seaaarch for cattttttttttts10:24
buzone i tried wanted to kill kdenetwork10:24
defryskthe one in ubuntuforems is that I guess?10:24
jtinneyWould anyone happen to know of either a good program or tutorial for creating a multi-boot cd or dvd?10:25
jme__naive question what mean 'multi' in multiboot cd ?10:26
jme__like a 'grub/lilo' but on your cd ?10:26
h3sp4wnInstalling multiple linux distributions from one cd ?10:27
DaSkreechbetty: What?10:27
bettyhow long does it take for a new person to learn the computer?10:27
X_Spideris possible to use gparted instead of qtparted in the kubuntu installer? qtparted doesn't work but i installed gparted and it work10:27
jtinneyWell, what I'd like to do is put kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu and some other diagnostic programs all on one disc, and for the images I would like to choose which one the cd will initiate based off of a menu?10:27
defryskbetty, two metres10:27
h3sp4wnjtinney: It would have to be a dvd10:28
jtinneyso, yes, a type of boot menu, but on a cd or dvd10:28
DaSkreechbetty: as long as they have interest10:29
jtinneyYeah, and that's fine, it's just finding a program that will do it for me, or finding a good tutorial. I've been looking around and haven't had much look in the freeware department10:29
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bettywhat is a good way to learn the computer?10:29
jtinneylook = luck10:29
jme__jtinney: well it is a very specific answer and i dont have the answer. i would suggest you to talk to people who are used to build distribution cd :)10:29
h3sp4wnjtineey: Just mount an iso and take it appart10:29
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h3sp4wnjtineey: You would want multiple squashfs images (from the different distributions)10:30
DaSkreechbetty: Decide what you want to do and figure out a way to do it :)10:30
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DaSkreechdo it in steps.. get to a comfortable place then once you are used to doing something then step out off the cliff again10:30
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LiteHeddedcan someone help my get my sound working again?10:31
jtinneyh2sp4wn: Thank you, that points me in a direction so I can start searching and hopefully be able to produce something workable.10:31
jtinneyh3sp4wn^10:32
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h3sp4wnjtinney: You need squashfs-tools10:33
DaSkreechLiteHedded: Whats the problem?10:33
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LiteHeddedit was working, I fixed my ati drivers by editing xorg.conf and rebooted10:33
LiteHeddedno sound now10:33
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DaSkreechLiteHedded: Oh a reboot...10:33
snedar_hi, I'm sorry, something crashed. has anyone answered my question?10:33
DaSkreechcan you play an ogg from the CLI?10:33
h3sp4wnjtinney: I used this to make a custom xubuntu cd 'sudo mkisofs -r -V "Custom XUbuntu Live CD" -cache-inodes -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o /mnt/xubuntu-sam.iso /mnt/isofiles'10:33
LiteHeddedum...huh?10:34
LiteHedded:)10:34
h3sp4wnjtinney: (That deals with the bootable part of it)10:34
jme__DaSkreech: ogg12310:34
snedar_DaSkreech: ogg123 (or wasn't your question *how* you do that?)10:34
DaSkreechogg123 ~/Examples/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg10:35
DaSkreechThanks guys :-) I'm helping LiteHedded10:35
LiteHeddedso that's to me? ogg123 thing?10:35
DaSkreechYes LiteHedded10:36
jtinneyh3sp4wn: Alright, I'm at work now but I'll get squashfs-tools when I get home and try that command and see what I can come up with.10:37
LiteHeddedbrian@sager:~$ ogg123 ~/Examples/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg10:37
LiteHeddedAudio Device:   Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) output10:37
LiteHeddedCannot open /home/brian/Examples/Experience ubuntu.ogg.10:37
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DaSkreechHmm ok10:39
LiteHeddedhmmm i have an arts gui tool thingie10:39
DaSkreechReally?10:39
DaSkreechWhere?10:39
DaSkreech:-)10:39
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LiteHeddedyea and it says the arts sound daemon will not autosuspen right now since there are active modules10:39
LiteHeddedit's in my start menu10:40
LiteHeddedit's called arts control10:40
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DaSkreechI don't have that10:41
afm\colossuswhich mobile phones are known to work well with Kontact's sync-abilities?10:41
LiteHeddedheh10:41
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LiteHeddedi have a folder called debian in my start menu10:41
DaSkreechah ok10:41
LiteHeddedmight be from when I installed fluxbox10:41
DaSkreechgot yu now :)10:41
LiteHeddedi dunno10:41
LiteHeddedoh ok10:41
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LiteHeddeddid i scare you away?10:43
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DaSkreechUmm no10:43
DaSkreechI have to reboot though10:43
LiteHeddedARGH!10:43
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DaSkreechI'll be back10:43
LiteHeddedok i'll wait10:43
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fekDaSkreech: /nick Terminator10:44
AyabaraI can't shake the feeling that my movies look better in xp than in kubuntu. could the ati driver give better results than the fglrx driver on my ati radeon m300?10:45
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rljhi there10:45
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rlji think the driver for my soundcard under dapper defaults to playback in 22500 Hz (instead of 44100). i guess it might be that the linux driver isn't capable of more, but could it also be a config problem? is there a way to configure an alsa soundcard (apart from volumes is alsamixer)?10:46
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rlj*2205010:47
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LiteHeddedman this sucks not having sound10:47
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Kreamhi all10:47
DaSkreechI know!10:47
LiteHeddedi'll paypal a dollar to whoever can fix it for me :)10:47
DaSkreechWell rebooting seemed to fix most of my problems :) of course they caused yours10:47
LiteHeddedyep10:47
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KreamI dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper but the sound card is not working; alsamixer says that no card has been detected. How do I re-detect my card ?10:48
DaSkreechSo arts won't start?10:48
DaSkreechwhat happens when you run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start?10:49
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LiteHeddedi think artsd is running10:49
LiteHeddedi see the processes10:49
LiteHeddedbrian@sager:~$ /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start * Setting up ALSA...10:49
Chryseuswhat soundcard do you have?10:50
LiteHeddedac9710:50
DaSkreechdoes it say ok?10:50
crimsun_DaSkreech: alsa-utils doesn't "start alsa" -- it only restores the mixer levels.10:50
LiteHeddedoh yea it says ok10:50
DaSkreechcrimsun_: Good to know10:50
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DaSkreechWhat does start alsa?10:50
crimsun_Kream: how old is the computer?10:50
crimsun_DaSkreech: udev10:50
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Kreamcrimsun_: new laptop, sound worked fine under breezy10:50
KreamSetting up ALSA...                                                                                                * warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: load_st[ ok ] 36: No soundcards found...'10:51
DaSkreechso run /etc/init.d/udev restart?10:51
crimsun_DaSkreech: no10:51
DaSkreechah10:51
DaSkreechok :)10:51
crimsun_guys, one at a time, please.10:51
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Chryseuslsmod | grep ac9710:51
LiteHeddedso um what do I do?10:51
crimsun_Kream: / LiteHedded: ``lspci -v && lspci -nv'' onto pastebin10:51
devlin-7nixternal: f6 thing didn't work.. d/ling "alternative" now10:52
LiteHeddedpastebin url plz10:52
Kreamrafb.net/paste10:52
crimsun_the Fine Topic has the URL.10:52
jtinneyJust a note on my earlier posted issue for creating multiboot cd's, I found a tutorial in PDF format from linux-magazine.com Issue 26, the link as follows: http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/29/MultibootCDs.pdf10:52
crimsun_(doesn't anyone read the topic nowadays?)10:52
Kreamcrimsun_: am doing :)10:52
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Kreamcrimsun_: as many as read EULAs :)10:53
DaSkreechlol10:53
LiteHeddedhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/NUOX5Z21.html10:53
afm\colossusone last time for today...: which mobile phones are known to work well with Kontact's sync-abilities?10:53
crimsun_LiteHedded: that's not all I asked for10:54
DaSkreechMotorola10:54
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afm\colossusDaSkreech: any specific models?10:54
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LiteHeddedoh10:54
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LiteHeddedsorry10:54
DaSkreechafm\colossus: have you asked in #kontact?10:55
LiteHeddedwhat else did you need?10:55
afm\colossusnope, not yet :)10:55
DaSkreechOr checked the site?10:55
crimsun_LiteHedded: lspci -v10:55
afm\colossusbut i'll head over to there right now10:55
afm\colossus;)10:55
DaSkreechafm\colossus: That might be a lot more efficent :)10:55
pHallo. I have problem with my usb card reader after upgrade from 5,10 to 6.06. In 5.10 I only plug it and it works. What I must do in 6.06 to make it working?10:55
Kreamwhile it's pasting, is there a way to re-detect hardware, or even, more specifically, audio hardware ?10:55
crimsun_Kream: no, that's why I asked for that info.10:56
DaSkreechthere was a sndconfig I don't know if it's still around10:56
Kreamalsaconfig works on another distro10:56
LiteHeddedhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/btwQBs90.html10:56
crimsun_sndconfig is not in Ubuntu. alsaconfig is only useful for ISA devices.10:56
Kreamthis is bizarre - rafb.net is not accepting my paste10:56
crimsun_Kream: so use another pastebin, there are plenty10:56
LiteHeddedthat happened to me earlier on another pastebin....weird10:57
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Kreami've used alsaconfig for the intel HDA off of a 915 board a week ago10:57
Kreamlooking...10:57
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crimsun_we don't ship alsaconf period.10:57
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Kreamfair enough.10:57
Kreamnot asking you to :)10:57
LiteHeddeddo you have what you need crimsun_?10:57
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neuron_!xgl10:57
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:57
crimsun_LiteHedded: scroll up and read what I asked for, please.10:57
LiteHeddedum ok I thought I did.10:58
LiteHeddedlspci -v right?10:58
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DaSkreech&& lspci -vv10:58
crimsun_LiteHedded: no, I need lspci -v && lspci -nv10:58
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DaSkreechthe && lspci -vv is part of the command10:58
LiteHeddedi gave you that already I thought10:58
LiteHeddedthen you said that's not all you needed10:59
LiteHeddedso I gave you lspci -v10:59
crimsun_LiteHedded: and where's the urL?10:59
crimsun_http://rafb.net/paste/results/btwQBs90.html  <-- ?10:59
steve343anyone know if someones managed to get steam to work under wine?11:00
crimsun_LiteHedded: now I need ``lsmod && amixer''11:00
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DaSkreechsteve343: Someone has11:00
steve343running or running well?11:01
LiteHeddedhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/s6iGzI57.html11:01
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jme__more like running away ? :)11:01
=== jme__ lame kidding (no clue about steam/wine :)
crimsun_LiteHedded: now summarise your problem, please11:01
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LiteHeddedsound not working11:01
crimsun_Kream: have you provided that info?11:02
LiteHeddedit was working then I edited xorg.conf to get ati working and rebooted now no sound11:02
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crimsun_LiteHedded: you keep omitting stuff I requested11:02
LiteHeddedwell I'm trying dude11:02
LiteHeddedrequest it all at once maybe. I thought I gave you everything11:03
DaSkreechcrimsun_: try >exact thing he should type<11:03
LiteHeddedyes try that11:03
DaSkreechThen he can copy everything between those two11:03
crimsun_17:00 < crimsun_> LiteHedded: now I need ``lsmod && amixer''11:03
LiteHeddedi gave you that11:03
LjLLiteHedded: last URL was only amixer, not lsmod, as far as i can see11:03
crimsun_not sure how that's terribly unclear.11:03
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LiteHeddedit's not11:03
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LiteHeddedi pasted it right into a terminal11:04
betty_hi11:04
betty_I have a question11:04
LiteHeddedi see it in my history but I'll try again11:04
LjLLiteHedded: perhaps you didn't paste from the beginning of the output?11:04
DaSkreechhi betty11:04
betty_can I setup my computer to turn off after 10:00PM?11:04
DaSkreechsure11:04
LjLbetty_: not sure it's the best option, but edit /etc/crontab and add an entry there11:04
betty_I mean; how can I setup my computer to turn off after 10;)0PM?11:04
LiteHeddedI was >>ing it to a text file. I think I didn't tryp the > for both commands11:05
betty_I've never used the crontab11:05
crimsun_LiteHedded: do you have multiple sound devices or just that onboard?11:05
DaSkreechWel there is kCron11:05
DaSkreechwhich makes it a little easier11:05
LiteHeddedwhat's the best way to get those long outputs from a terminal tot he bin?11:05
betty_kCron11:05
LjLbetty_: an entry like this one would probably work:     * 10 * * * root halt11:05
DaSkreechshould be in the system menu11:05
LiteHeddedjust the onboard crimsun_11:05
crimsun_LiteHedded: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 011:05
LjLLiteHedded: it would have worked if you did   ( lsmod && amixer ) >>filename11:06
betty_do I need to include the root password?11:06
LjLLiteHedded: otherwise redirection is per-command11:06
LiteHeddedhere's lsmod11:06
LiteHeddedhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/9QbebT77.html11:06
LjLbetty_: no, crond is executed as root11:06
LiteHeddedthanks LjL I'll try it next time11:06
crimsun_LiteHedded: right, don't really need the output now. Execute the amixer command I gave you, and test sound again.11:06
LiteHeddedSimple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 0 [0%] 11:07
LiteHeddedisn't there a command that will give static from a terminal?11:07
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LiteHedded/dev/dsp or something?11:07
crimsun_LiteHedded: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav11:07
LjLLiteHedded: sudo cat </dev/urandom >/dev/dsp11:07
betty_What program would I put in the kCron?11:07
LiteHeddedPlaying WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono11:07
LiteHeddedbut I don't hear it11:08
LjLbetty_: dunno, never used it. however i suppose typing "halt" as the command would work11:08
crimsun_LiteHedded: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off11:08
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LiteHeddedok done11:08
betty_I wish it wasn't in military time11:08
crimsun_LiteHedded: and now?11:08
LiteHeddednothing11:08
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LjLbetty_: oops sorry, of course the line should have been * 22 * * * root halt :)11:09
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crimsun_LiteHedded: amixer set 'Headphone' off && amixer set 'Master Mono' off11:09
McScruffhelp , i had sound, and now i dont, i dont think i have upgraded either11:09
LiteHeddednothing11:09
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LiteHeddedbash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy if I do the /dev/dsp thing11:10
Official_Canyone here running XGL?11:10
crimsun_LiteHedded: does aplay play with inaudible sound, or does it hang?11:10
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crimsun_McScruff: pastebin ``amixer''11:10
LjLLiteHedded: that doesn't necessarily mean much, i guess your sound daemon could be keeping it busy11:10
LiteHeddedit looks like it's playing but it just sits there11:10
crimsun_so it's hanging11:11
LiteHeddedi have to ctrl+c it11:11
crimsun_LiteHedded: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*11:11
eclypseanyone know of any good KDE optimizaition tricks?11:11
eclypsespeed it up graphics wise11:11
eclypsewithout sacrificing11:11
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McScruffcrimsun_: http://pastebin.com/70739411:11
LjLbesides the things that are in the control panel, i don't know of anything special11:12
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kdingoeclypse: installing more memory?11:12
LiteHeddedCOMMAND  PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME11:12
LiteHeddedartsd   5023 brian  mem    CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p11:12
LiteHeddedartsd   5023 brian    9u   CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p11:12
LiteHeddedkmix    5025 brian   10u   CHR  116,0      9422 /dev/snd/controlC011:12
LiteHeddedwxvlc   5102 brian  mem    CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p11:12
LiteHeddedwxvlc   5102 brian    9r   CHR 116,33      9109 /dev/snd/timer11:12
LiteHeddedwxvlc   5102 brian   10u   CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p11:12
LiteHeddedwxvlc   5261 brian  mem    CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p11:12
Official_Ceclypse: i think you can dumb down the eye candy a bit in Settings11:12
LiteHeddedwxvlc   5261 brian    9r   CHR 116,33      9109 /dev/snd/timer11:12
LiteHeddedwxvlc   5261 brian   10u   CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p11:12
LiteHeddedartsd   5356 brian  mem    CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p11:12
LiteHeddedartsd   5356 brian   10r   CHR 116,33      9109 /dev/snd/timer11:12
crimsun_oh gosh.11:12
LiteHeddedartsd   5356 brian   12u   CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p11:12
Official_Cwhat the spam???11:12
eclypsewell11:12
eclypseI mean, my graphics card is powerful enough to run it very well11:12
crimsun_LiteHedded: pkill wxvlc artsd11:12
eclypseI have my drivers installed and working11:13
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eclypsebut it seems like KDE can go faster then this11:13
LiteHeddeddon't thing that worked crimsun_11:13
Official_Ceclypse: so whats your problem?11:13
LiteHeddedsyntax error?11:13
LjLeclypse: your graphics card doesn't really have too much to do with KDE running speed11:13
crimsun_pkill wxvlc && kill artsd11:13
crimsun_err11:13
crimsun_pkill wxvlc && pkill artsd11:13
betty_says I have to be superuser to use halt11:13
LiteHeddeddone11:13
crimsun_McScruff: what do you mean you "don't think" you upgraded?11:13
crimsun_McScruff: either you did, or you didn't...11:13
Official_Cyeah, LJL is right...it is more dependent on memory and processor11:14
_tiagohhhg11:14
LjLbetty_: yes, you do. if you do the crontab think, it *should* run it as superuser11:14
McScruffcrimsun_: i have only installed flash11:14
crimsun_LiteHedded: now try the aplay command.11:14
uniqbetty_: yes, you have to.11:14
_tiagohi i am brazilian11:14
LjLbetty_: with KCron, on the other hand, i suppose it might run it as the normal user11:14
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_tiagowhere are you from11:14
McScruffcrimsun_: but i dont remember exactly when it stopped11:14
crimsun_McScruff: ok, ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''11:14
LpadminLiteHedded, you can use pastebin.com.11:14
Lpadmin;)11:14
LiteHeddedsorry lpadmin11:14
LiteHeddedi got sound that time11:15
crimsun_LiteHedded: good, so your sound works fine.11:15
LiteHeddedbut weird scratchy sound. what's that wave supposed to sound like?11:15
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crimsun_doesn't matter, you have sound11:15
LpadminOr this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/. Hey at least you have sound. ;)11:15
Official_Cso nobody here is running XGL?11:15
crimsun_use -Dplughw:0 if you want11:15
Lpadmins/Hey/Hey,/11:15
LiteHeddednot anymore11:15
LiteHeddedtried it again and nothing11:15
Official_CLiteHedded: you used to?11:15
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LpadminThat was quick... :(11:15
LiteHeddedit used to work fine11:16
crimsun_LiteHedded: don't use arts11:16
McScruffcrimsun_: http://pastebin.com/70740411:16
crimsun_LiteHedded: go to the multimedia settings and disable the sound server11:16
LiteHeddedi tried playing a divx movie and I heard a kind of pop then tried your command again and nothing11:16
LiteHeddedin kcontrol?11:16
crimsun_LiteHedded: are you using vlc to play the movie?11:16
LiteHeddedyes11:16
crimsun_LiteHedded: what's the alsa output configured as?11:16
LiteHeddedthe output module in the preferences?11:17
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crimsun_LiteHedded: yes, you may need to check the advanced options11:17
LiteHeddedalsa11:17
crimsun_LiteHedded: no, that's not the device11:17
LjLany idea why my DNS settings are destroyed after every reboot?11:17
LiteHeddedoh11:17
LiteHeddedit says defualt11:17
crimsun_LiteHedded: the default should be set to "default"11:17
crimsun_LiteHedded: good11:17
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LiteHeddedthere's nothing in that list though unless I refresh it11:18
crimsun_LiteHedded: that's fine, leave it at default11:18
_aaronI can't figure outhow to get my wifi working under Kubutu 6.0611:18
LiteHeddedok11:18
crimsun_McScruff: don't use arts, the sound server11:18
crimsun_LiteHedded: can you run two simultaneous instances of aplay and hear them both?11:19
_aaronI can see the wifi device when I list the USB devices.. but it doesn't appear to be detected... it's just the atheros chipset?!11:19
LiteHeddedso disabling the sound server is done in kcontrol right?11:19
LiteHeddedi can't hear one11:19
LiteHeddedso I doubt I would hear both11:19
krusipohi have searched around, is there an easier way to install firefox than installing ubuntu?11:19
crimsun_pastebin ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* && amixer''11:19
LjLkrusipo: ... sorry? :o)11:19
EvilIdlerHuh?11:20
LiteHeddedme crimsun_?11:20
chavokrusipo, sudo apt-get install firefox11:20
crimsun_LiteHedded: well, yes11:20
LjLor sudo aptitude install firefox, yeah11:20
McScruffcrimsun_: what sound server should i use?11:20
crimsun_McScruff: none11:20
LiteHeddedwhat's the best way to get all that to the pastebin from a terminal?11:20
crimsun_LiteHedded: highlight and paste using your mouse11:20
krusipoLjL: no firefox in the kubuntu installation how do I get it, have the repositories right but its not there11:20
McScruffcrimsun_: what do i do then?, im confused11:20
LjLkrusipo: then you don't have the repositories right ;)11:21
crimsun_McScruff: disable it.11:21
EvilIdlerIt's called mozilla-firefox, probably11:21
LiteHeddedwell scrolling over that many lines is pretty difficult11:21
_aaronI don't see ndis in adept...11:21
LjLkrusipo: what does "apt-cache search firefox" tell you?11:21
LiteHeddedi have to use the wheel to scroll up on the terminal11:21
h3sp4wnaaron: You can't use knetworkmanager with atheros (without the connection randomly dropping) - if you do ifconfig -a does ath0 appear ?11:21
crimsun_LiteHedded: then do so11:21
LjLEvilIdler: it's called both, but mozilla-firefox is transitional11:21
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h3sp4wnaaron: You are better off using madwifi-ng than ndiswrapper if your usb adapter is not supported by madwifi-old11:21
krusipoLjL: it says11:21
krusipoopenoffice.org - OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.011:21
krusipomozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb - Mozilla Firefox English language/region package11:21
krusipolibnspr4 - Netscape Portable Runtime Library11:21
krusipolibnss3 - Network Security Service Libraries - runtime11:21
LiteHeddedoh ok that one's not so long11:21
LjL!paste11:22
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .11:22
LjLkrusipo: is that Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper)?11:22
LjLkrusipo: try "sudo apt-get update", and then again11:23
LiteHeddedhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/DjrACS14.html11:23
krusipoLjL: yep it is fresh from servers and burned to day11:23
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crimsun_LiteHedded: if you close vlc, can you hear stuff from aplay?11:23
h3sp4wn_aaron: try doing sudo ifconfig ath0 up && iwlist ath0 scan (and see whether you get any output)11:23
LiteHeddedno11:23
crimsun_LiteHedded: ok, I'm still missing the amixer output I requested11:24
LiteHeddedjust amixer?11:24
crimsun_yes11:24
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LiteHeddedhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/ttXO0171.html11:25
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crimsun_LiteHedded: does aplay still hang, or does it give you a prompt back?11:26
LiteHeddedhangs11:26
crimsun_LiteHedded: what command are you using?11:26
LiteHeddedaplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav11:26
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LiteHeddedeven when it played that scratchy popping sound it hanged11:26
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crimsun_LiteHedded: it never gave you a prompt back after playing the scratchy sound?11:27
_aaronh3sp4wn: ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device11:27
LiteHeddedi don't think so crimsun_11:27
crimsun_LiteHedded: are you typing in the same terminal?11:27
LiteHeddedyes11:27
crimsun_did you press ctrl+c?11:27
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LiteHeddedyes11:27
LiteHeddedyou wanted me to disable the sound server right?11:28
LiteHeddedi didn't do that yet11:28
geneo93anyone have trouble with kde saving settings11:28
crimsun_lsmod |egrep '^snd_(via|intel)'11:28
spajus_hi. how do you minimize all windows in kde?11:28
crimsun_-> phone11:28
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DaSkreechAlt+Ctrl+D11:28
LiteHeddedsnd_intel8x0           35740  411:28
spajus_thanks11:28
LjLspajus_: there's the "Desktop" icon for the panel. doesn't really mimimize, but it does let you see the desktop11:29
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spajus_i would also like to know if it is possible to bind this action to different key combination11:29
spajus_in other words, how to change shortcut keys :)11:29
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DaSkreechspajus_: System Settings -> regional _> keyboard shortcuts11:30
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spajus_thanks again :)11:30
DaSkreechSure11:30
LjLspajus_: what DaSkreech said. but i don't see the hotkey you need, there11:30
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crimsun_LiteHedded: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*11:31
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LiteHeddeddisable the sound system in kcontrol crimsun_?11:31
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LjLheh11:32
crimsun_LiteHedded: yes for now11:32
LiteHeddedk11:32
th0m4si want the sonypi module as i have a sony vaio laptop11:32
th0m4show to do11:32
LiteHeddedhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/Mw9vVq82.html11:32
th0m4si see vaiostat-source in Adept11:32
crimsun_LiteHedded: can you please quit vlc and close the mixer applet?11:33
LiteHeddedit is closed11:33
LiteHeddedthat could be my problem11:33
LiteHeddedvlc isn't open as far as I can tell11:33
crimsun_it's definitely open11:33
crimsun_kill 5659 564711:33
LiteHeddedso I need to kill the wxvlc processes? because I don't have it running11:33
LiteHeddedok done11:34
crimsun_now lsof again11:34
LiteHeddedjust kmix11:34
LiteHeddedwhich I also closed...11:34
crimsun_good11:34
olivier:join #istres11:34
LiteHeddedwell I guess it's running int he tray?11:34
crimsun_LiteHedded: yes11:34
LiteHeddedok11:34
th0m4soh cool nm11:34
crimsun_LiteHedded: doesn't matter, you can leave that running11:34
LiteHeddedk11:35
crimsun_LiteHedded: now try the aplay command again11:35
LiteHeddedweird popping sounds11:35
LiteHeddedhanging11:35
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crimsun_man, what in the world did you do?11:35
crimsun_pastebin ``dmesg''11:35
LiteHeddedI booted puppy linux from a live cd11:35
LiteHeddedmaybe it wrote something to this ubuntu partition?11:36
crimsun_no idea11:36
crimsun_I have a meeting shortly, so please hurry.11:36
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italoivoi got a problem with my dsl conection during the boot11:36
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LiteHeddedhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/1uWhL146.html11:37
LiteHeddedtrying11:37
_mora#de-ubuntu11:37
LiteHeddedtakes forever to scroll and highlight all that11:37
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[BU] Brizzwhy would video work in flash but not audio?11:37
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crimsun_hah, beautiful11:37
crimsun_your dmesg confirms that some other driver trampled all over the sound driver's address space11:38
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LiteHeddedoh great11:38
LiteHeddedsome "live" cd11:38
LiteHeddedthat's prolly what it did11:38
crimsun_not necessarily11:39
LiteHeddedthere was a part in booting it that configured sound11:39
LiteHeddednot that I think about it11:39
crimsun_please boot with "irqpoll"11:39
LiteHeddedhuh?11:39
crimsun_when you get the grub prompt, press 'e' to edit the current (non-recovery/rescue) one, then scroll down to the kernel line, then edit that and append " irqpoll" to the end of the line. Press enter, then b to boot.11:40
LiteHeddedthere's a bunch of kernels to boot in there how do I know which to select?11:41
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crimsun_LiteHedded: choose the top one.11:42
LiteHeddedok so add " irqpoll" just like that without quotes?11:42
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crimsun_LiteHedded: yes11:43
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Liteee<---litehedded's windoze box11:43
LiteHeddedok I'll do thatbrb11:43
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LpadminAfter I had upgraded to Dapper, cupsys stopped working. cupsd: Child exited with status 1!||\\--//|| invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "start" failed.11:44
blankyhey guys, how come in my lipstik theme, the close button on the top right is a bit more separated from the minimize and maximize11:44
Liteeeok I hit 'e'11:44
Liteeei have a new menu11:45
visik7anyone had recompile iptables from sid to dapper ?11:45
stephenfordwhy cant amrok open mp3 files?11:45
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NoUse!tell stephenford about mp311:45
italoivoi got a problem with my dsl conection during the boot, i don't receive any anwser from the server and it seems connected, the ppp0 is up, and only after putting down the ppp0 and reconnecting it works11:45
Liteeei have root, kernel, initrd, savedefault, and boot11:45
Liteeewhich one do I add irqpoll to?11:45
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italoivoanyone know how to solve this problem?11:45
Liteeedidn't lose you did I crimsun_?11:46
crimsun_Liteee: kernel.11:46
Liteeeok11:46
Liteeethen press b to boot it?11:47
crimsun_after you've edited it and pressed Enter11:47
Liteeeyea11:47
Liteeebooting now11:47
crimsun_I have a meeting soon, so I can't hold your hand through the rest of it.11:47
Liteeeok well I don't know the rest of it11:47
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visik7!iptables11:48
crimsun_sure you do. Test sound11:48
Liteeewhat's going to happen?11:48
Liteeeoh11:48
crimsun_if it's broken, look at dmesg11:48
Liteeek look for what?11:48
crimsun_snd_intel8x011:48
crimsun_you'll have an irq handler error right above it11:48
Liteeei don't think it's booting. I just see a black screen11:49
Liteeeit went through the boot process but now nothing11:49
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Liteeeyea it's not booting11:50
stephenfordoh ok thats fair enough11:50
stephenfordany pay for linux programs that do?11:51
crimsun_Liteee: well you've succeeded in doing /something/ that goes way beyond sound.11:51
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Liteeei typed  irqpoll after the long kernel line and pressed b to boot it11:51
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[BU] Brizzhah11:52
[BU] Brizz./MAKEDEV audio worked a trest11:52
[BU] Brizztreat*11:52
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stephenfordit ok sorry cheers all11:53
Liteeei can try again. the kernel line says kernel then a bunch of other stuff. you want " irqpoll" at the very end of that line right?11:53
GillesMhello since I upgraded in dapper I got for all the gtk program the Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_window_set_back_pixmap(): pixmap must have a colormap11:53
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crimsun_Liteee: well if it doesn't boot with irqpoll, then remove it and try without it11:53
GillesMand I have black gtk windows any idea ?11:53
Liteeewell ok11:53
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Liteeejust like normal or with pressing "e" and the pressing b to boot11:54
crimsun_normal11:54
crimsun_I'm off to a meeting.11:54
Liteeeok11:54
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bettyhi11:55
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david__hey hey, is there any way i can make the windows key open the k menu?11:58
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[BU] Brizzdavid__: it's in System Settings11:59
[BU] Brizzdavid__: under Regional & Accessibility Settings11:59
[BU] Brizzdavid__: then Keyboard Shortcuts11:59
aseigoonly if you make the windows key not a meta key11:59
Liteeeok i'm totally hosed. none of that helped my sound11:59
[BU] Brizzdavid__: the shortcut is called Popup Launch Menu11:59
[BU] Brizzah12:00
[BU] Brizzhehe12:00
[BU] Brizzaseigo: is one step ahead of me...12:00
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david__how do i go about making it a non meta key?12:00
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david__well, i'm one step closer12:02
david__now i need to figure this meta deal12:03
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