[12:03] <LiteHedded> okey dokey
[12:03] <ctford0> nope grub-insall hd0 didn't work either
[12:03] <nixternal> hmmm...now that is odd DarkRavenMixage...because if is that way, then it should work
[12:04] <DarkRavenMixage> its very strange....
[12:04] <nixternal> are you logged on as root right now or no?
[12:04] <DarkRavenMixage> now not
[12:04] <nico8481> anyone running amarok 1.4.0 or 1.4.0a ?
[12:04] <DarkRavenMixage> i-m logged as user
[12:04] <mrfishhat> did you remember the t?
[12:04] <DarkRavenMixage> but not from this computer
[12:04] <ctford0> anyone know how to clear out the mbr??
[12:04] <DarkRavenMixage> i-m using a second pc to chat with u
[12:05] <DaSkreech> nico8481: I am
[12:05] <nixternal> ctford0: boot wiht a win98 boot disk...then type     fdisk /mbr
[12:05] <ctford0> lol, yea mrfishhat....
[12:05] <nixternal> that cleans out the mbr
[12:05] <nico8481> DaSkreech: hehe, already asked you i think :) it's about the layout problem for the Playing: area :)
[12:05] <clintc_laptop> how do I tell konqueror that a single left mouse click is for selecting a file versus launching it
[12:05] <DaSkreech> Still have that?
[12:05] <DaSkreech> That
[12:06] <DaSkreech> That's annoying :)
[12:06] <chavo> clintc_laptop, go to Peripherals -> Mouse
[12:07] <nico8481> DaSkreech: hell yes :) filed a bug report but i doubt it's a bug since you don't have it and got it from the same source than i did :-/
[12:07] <nico8481> (well if i remember correctly, http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 isn't it?)
[12:07] <sokuban> I need something called X (or X-dev) for compiling a source code. I can't seem to find out how to get it.
[12:07] <clintc_laptop> chavo: excellent, thanks
[12:07] <DarkRavenMixage> please help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation
[12:08] <clintc_laptop> does anyone know hoe to turn the konqueror menu back on after turning it off/hiding it
[12:08] <DaSkreech> nico8481: Yeah
[12:09] <nico8481> DarkRavenMixage: did you try on #KDE? maybe they can help...
[12:09] <sokuban> maybe ALT-F3? Might help somehow
[12:09] <nico8481> raaaaaah !
[12:10] <ctford0> go to the contol panel and tell it to start a fresh session
[12:10] <clintc_laptop> sokuban: that doesn't get them
[12:10] <ctford0> that will get yor panel back
[12:10] <sokuban> clintc_laptop: sorry then, I thought there would be a way to turn it back on from that menu
[12:10] <DaSkreech> clintc_laptop: Try Ctrl+M
[12:11] <clintc_laptop> sokuban: yes, I thought so to
[12:11] <sokuban> >__>
[12:11] <sokuban> I need something called X (or X-dev) for compiling a source code. I can't seem to find out how to get it. Anyone know what it is?
[12:12] <kcq> I have Kubuntu 6.06 installed in a proliant 1600 server running dual P2-400Mhz processors (yeah, it's old) - Is there a way to see if the second processor is being used? And if not how to make it available? BIOS post page shows both available but KDE system info seems like it only shows a single processor.
[12:12] <DaSkreech> clintc_laptop: Try Ctrl+M
[12:12] <Sanne> sokuban, if the compiler complains about a filename that it can't find, you can look for the package it's in on packages.ubuntu.com under section "Search the contents of packages"
[12:12] <DarkRavenMixage> please help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation , in #kde they do not answer
[12:13] <sokuban> (I already searched at packages.ubuntu.com) but I googled it, maybe I'll try from the site itself
[12:13] <imbrandon> DarkRavenMixage, try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop
[12:13] <ctford0> kcq, top should list both processors if they are there
[12:13] <DarkRavenMixage> imbrandon allright
[12:13] <Sanne> sokuban, can you paste the error output on some pastebin? I can have a look if you want.
[12:13] <ctford0> you can also try dmesg to see if they are both being detected
[12:13] <DarkRavenMixage> i-ll give a try
[12:14] <ctford0> kcq, after running top press 1 and that should show the loads on both processors seperately
[12:14] <clintc_laptop> DaSkreech: is the winner!
[12:14] <clintc_laptop> thanks , that was driving me nuts
[12:14] <fimblo> kcq: you can run: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo" if you see two CPUs you're ok
[12:15] <sokuban> Huh? I have no error output? I am looking for the package of 'X' (I mean I do have an error output, but its the standard one saying something about not being able to find the package)
[12:16] <DarkRavenMixage> hey
[12:16] <DarkRavenMixage> i figured the problem
[12:16] <DarkRavenMixage> hot to grant all permission of a folder to an user via console_
[12:16] <DarkRavenMixage> ??
[12:16] <DarkRavenMixage> how
[12:16] <DaSkreech> clintc_laptop: sure man
[12:16] <fimblo> darkravenmixage: chmod 777 dirname
[12:16] <mrfishhat> why when i try to use write in ubuntu it says that the user has write disabled?
[12:16] <DaSkreech> clintc_laptop: I think you can do that in any KDE APP
[12:17] <kcq> fimblo: tried it and it shows: processor 0...stepping 2
[12:17] <DarkRavenMixage> firnblo logged as root?
[12:17] <Sanne> sokuban, exactly this error message I would want to see ;)
[12:17] <Sanne> sokuban, there are lots of X development packages, maybe we can find out the correct one.
[12:18] <fimblo> kcq: er, don't you see like 15 lines or so, starting with processor:0 and ending with bogomips: ####?
[12:18] <sokuban> Sanne: Oh, I get it, you want the error message from me compiling, one sec
[12:19] <DarkRavenMixage> firnblo how to give privileges to subdirectories too???
[12:19] <clintc_laptop> DaSkreech: yes, I just tried it with Konversation, when you hide the menu with konqueror via the menu you don't get the helpful message about cntl-m
[12:19] <fimblo> darkrabenmixage: chmod -R 777 dirname
[12:19] <DaSkreech> Ah. That sounds like a bug report :)
[12:20] <fimblo> but this is quite dangerous- it opens you up completely. Better to set it to 750 or something (full permissions for you, run/read permissions for your group, and none for others)
[12:20] <slow-motion> n8
[12:20] <sokuban> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15608 Take a look at line 42. The thing happily compiles without X and SDL is trying to use SVGAlib or something that I don't want/
[12:20] <Sanne> sokuban, looking...
[12:21] <dan> Hi everybody !
[12:21] <fimblo> hi
[12:21] <dan> I have a littlre trouble with konqueror
[12:21] <dan> I have lost the preview
[12:21] <dan> of all file
[12:21] <dan> audio, pdf, etc..
[12:22] <dan> do you know how to correct this ?
[12:22] <fimblo> DarkRavenMixage: how did it go?
[12:22] <ctford0> fdisk /mbr just killed my whole partition table
[12:22] <dan> i don't know
[12:22] <fimblo> did you back it up first?
[12:22] <ctford0> lol, guess not
[12:22] <fimblo> sorry ctford0: did you back it up first?
[12:22] <fimblo> :)
[12:22] <fimblo> oops. just run grub again
[12:23] <clintc_laptop> DaSkreech: possibly... there needs to be a more obvious way to recover from turning off the menu... but then again it looks like a basic kde thing
[12:23] <DarkRavenMixage> firnblo i logged in >P
[12:23] <clintc_laptop> I have just moved from gnome to kde
[12:23] <DarkRavenMixage> now i can use kubuntu i log out there and i log in from my pc
[12:23] <fimblo> darkravenmixage: huh?
[12:24] <clintc_laptop> DaSkreech: thanks again... I'll return later and try to help out someone else
[12:24] <DaSkreech> Thanks!
[12:25] <Sanne> sokuban, ok, you're right, it just says it wants general X. So, I would first try the package xlibs-dev, which is a transitional package that depends on a lot of things: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/oldlibs/xlibs-dev
[12:25] <fimblo> ctford0: unless theres a nifty kubuntu tool for rebuilding your mbr, you'll need to run grub and reset it manually
[12:25] <sokuban> Sanne: Ok, I'll go grab it
[12:25] <visik7> ah ah google earth use QT
[12:25] <visik7> ROCKS
[12:25] <Sanne> sokuban, good luck
[12:25] <dan> anyone can help me with a trouble in konqueror ?
[12:26] <kkathman> dan whats wrong?
[12:26] <sokuban> Umm, which one O_O
[12:26] <dan> Now, i can't see any preview in konqueror
[12:26] <nico8481> DaSkreech: could you run "md5sum /var/cache/apt/archives/amarok_2%3a1.4.0a-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" for me please ?
[12:26] <kkathman> preview?
[12:26] <dan> preview in ICON mode
[12:26] <dan> txt, pdf, audio, picture
[12:27] <kkathman> hmm
[12:27] <kkathman> dan do you get an error?
[12:27] <DaSkreech> nico8481: 03991d64de03fef396d925d0842d0f7e
[12:27] <dan> you know what I tell about ?
[12:27] <Hhhhh> hello guys, I'm trying to get mp3 playback working in kubuntu draper 64 bit, I followed the directions inthe Restricted Formats page of the wiki but amaroK doesn't play anything now
[12:27] <dan> no,
[12:27] <Hhhhh> any ideas?
[12:27] <bernier> how can i see which processes are runngin and kill them?
[12:27] <kkathman> dan are you talking about when you are in file manager mode?
[12:27] <dan> He just stop working
[12:28] <nico8481> damn it's identical :-/
[12:28] <fimblo> bernier: to check process list: ps -ef
[12:28] <Hhhhh> bernier, type "ps x" as you'll see what's running.
[12:28] <MidMark> bernier: ctrl+esc
[12:28] <bernier> lol
[12:28] <fimblo> bernier: to kill them, kill <pid>
[12:28] <dan> yes file manager in ICON view mode
[12:28] <bernier> 3 different answer :P
[12:28] <Hhhhh> look up the number (PID) of the process you wanna kill, and then type "kill $$$" where $$$ is that number
[12:28] <fimblo> bernier: all three are correct
[12:28] <DaSkreech> nico8481: Helps?
[12:28] <fimblo> just different flavours
[12:28] <MidMark> bernier: I prefer gui mode always
[12:29] <nico8481> DaSkreech: nope, mine has the same sum :P
[12:29] <dan> and all preview are activated but i can't see
[12:29] <kkathman> dan ok... so you bring up a directory in icon view... so what are you trying to do
[12:29] <fimblo> the wonders of linux is that we have the power of choosing ourselves whats best for us :)
[12:29] <kkathman> like.. click an icon and see it?
[12:29] <dan> i want to show the preview of the file
[12:29] <DaSkreech> nico8481: Did you try a purge and reinstall?
[12:30] <dan> before he worked but now ...not
[12:30] <nico8481> yup
[12:30] <Sanne> sokuban, I figure you're building zsnes? Are you aware that it's in the uubuntu respoitories?
[12:30] <kkathman> dan - right click... then.. preview in....
[12:30] <bernier> comment puis-je enlever un package que jai installer avec apt-get en ligne de commande?
[12:30] <sokuban> Sanne: IT IS?!?!?!?!
[12:30] <nico8481> DaSkreech: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128946 <- discribed all i did there
[12:30] <dan> no i know that ;)
[12:30] <dan> lol
[12:30] <Sanne> sokuban, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=zsnes&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[12:30] <kkathman> dan, or if you just click, it will usually show in the panel
[12:30] <dan> but in ICON mode , start konqueror file manager
[12:30] <kkathman> at least mine does
[12:30] <sokuban> I want to jump off a cliff now, thanks Sanne
[12:31] <bernier> how can i ermove a package i installed with apt-get in the konsole
[12:31] <nico8481> bernier: apt-get remove nom_du_package
[12:31] <dan> try it yourself
[12:31] <kkathman> right.. I have icon mode right now...and have a graphics directory .. I click the item and it appears in the panel
[12:31] <chavo> kkathman, he's talking about the mini previews of media files in icon mode
[12:31] <dan> start konqueror file-manager mode
[12:31] <bernier> thanks
[12:31] <Bassetts> anyone in here know how to make gnome have an option to save the session like kde?
[12:31] <Bassetts> i want the option though, not for it to just do it
[12:31] <Sanne> sokuban hehe :)
[12:31] <kkathman> dan yea...mine works fine
[12:31] <chavo> Bassetts, it should do it automatically already
[12:32] <dan> then so in a folder with picture, you see all picture preview
[12:32] <Bassetts> chavo: gnome doesnt, in breezy there was the option to, in dapper it doesnt
[12:32] <dan> me not
[12:32] <kkathman> dan yes, in icon view, in a folder with pictures, I see tiny renderings of the photo
[12:33] <dan> that right ! it's my trouble, mine stop working
[12:33] <kkathman> dan   then when I click...the picture opens in that panel
[12:33] <kkathman> dan double check that your file associations are ok
[12:33] <dan> i know when i click, but i want to see the tiny rendering of photo
[12:33] <kkathman> dan - kcontrol - KDE Components - File associations
[12:34] <dan> he work when i click, he open , but my trouble is with the tiny rendering preview
[12:34] <kkathman> dan:  do what I said above
[12:34] <dan> oki, I'll go to see
[12:34] <kkathman> heh.. in my directory, I just hover over the tiny picture and I get an automatica preview
[12:34] <Hhhhh> can anyone give me a hand? I installed libxine-extracodecs in kubuntu draper 64-bits and amaroK still won't play audio files
[12:35] <bernier> now how can i edit which process runs at boot?
[12:35] <Hhhhh> not only mp3, but no .ra or .wma either
[12:35] <dan> and then ??
[12:35] <kkathman> dan - also for picture directories, I'd suggest trying "Image view"
[12:35] <DaSkreech> Night
[12:35] <dan> yep, i known about image view too, not bad ;)
[12:36] <fimblo> good night
[12:36] <dan> but i want to see tiny rendering of PDF file too, TXT file too
[12:36] <kkathman> dan I dunno about the renderings of the txt files
[12:36] <kkathman> if you hover over them you get it
[12:36] <stefre> hi all
[12:37] <dan> but you see the tiny rendering of TXT and PDF file ?
[12:37] <kkathman> no
[12:37] <kkathman> only when you hover over it do you see the rendering
[12:37] <kkathman> but you DO see it then
[12:38] <dan> i know, but mine before i can see the tiny one too
[12:38] <bernier> now how can i edit which process runs at boot?
[12:38] <dan> its the same thing with you go over a MP3 file, he start to play for a preview
[12:39] <kkathman> yes
[12:40] <LiteHedd1d> ok I did the upgrade
[12:40] <fimblo> anyone have experience of nfs mounting /home onto several machines?
[12:40] <LiteHedd1d> do I have to reboot?
[12:40] <sokuban> Sanne: I must be an idiot, because I can't even install it from the package http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15618
[12:41] <TheHighChild> LiteHedd1d: I would make sure you still have your kubuntu-desktop package first
[12:41] <dan> OKi its' working again !
[12:41] <dan> thanks....
[12:41] <[BU] Brizz> has anyone tried the new Google Earth Beta with Linux support?
[12:41] <LiteHedded> how do I do that thehighchild
[12:41] <stefre> can i ask technical issue here ?
[12:41] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: yeah
[12:41] <Sanne> sokuban, looking
[12:41] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: did you install it as a user or root?
[12:42] <TheHighChild> LiteHedded: I would do a 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' in a terminal. if nothing happens, then you have it. if it starts installing, let it. With a dist-upgrade, it removes the package for some folks. When they reboot, they don't get a gui and get scared
[12:42] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: Just regular user. You'll need to chmod u+x though because it's a binary file
[12:42] <dan> I dont know in english but in french is: COmposant KDE, gestionnaire de fichier then Apercu et Mtadonnes
[12:43] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: just mv it where you want it 'chmod u+x Google]  then execute it with './Google'
[12:43] <Sanne> sokuban, you will have better luck to install the packe with adept/synaptic/apt/aptitude package manager, because dpkg doesn't automatically resolve dependencies like those others.
[12:43] <dan> some choice in that have "disparue"
[12:43] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: when it asks where you want to install it to, did you just indicate where root would typically install it?
[12:43] <sokuban> How do you that? >_>
[12:44] <LiteHedded> what's the command to upgrade again?
[12:44] <sokuban> Do I right click open with Adept or something?
[12:44] <Sanne> sokuban, did you already install from the repositories with one of those package managers?
[12:45] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: No, it gave me a default location in my home directory '/home/myusername/google-earth. I changed it to '/home/myusername/.google-earth because I want it hidden. I also created the symbolic link in my home dir. Then to execute it you type './google-earth'
[12:45] <TheHighChild> !upgrade
[12:45] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[12:45] <sokuban> I used apt-get for all my installing but for some reason I can't use it with zsnes. I have never used Adept before '_'
[12:45] <Sanne> sokuban, apt-get is fine. Why can't you use it for zsnes? What's the output?
[12:46] <sokuban> it can't find it and tells me to try apt-get -f (I think its -f, might have been -k)
[12:47] <Sanne> sokuban, if it can't find it, but you saw it on packages.ubuntu.com, it usually means that you need to enable the universe and/or multiverse repositories.
[12:47] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: I hate installing crap in my home directory :)
[12:47] <sokuban> I did that, I can pastebin my sources.list
[12:47] <edneymatias> see ya!
[12:47] <Sanne> sokuban, yes, please do that.
[12:47] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: I like to install it to the system paths as root and give it user rights, but that doesn't seem to work with Google Earth
[12:47] <bernier> how can i edit which process runs at boot?
[12:48] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: in fact, I got a bunch of error just now trying to install it in my home directory and it recommended me to run it as root
[12:48] <sokuban> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15619
[12:49] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: not sure man. i didn't play with it much, just a quick install like 5 minutes before you asked.
[12:49] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: blast :) hehe
[12:49] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: ironically, it runs fine as root. I get this symlink: permission denied" error when trying to run it
[12:50] <Sanne> sokuban, looking (please remember to type my name so I get alerted when you reply)
[12:50] <TheHighChild> They have Picasa available to work with Wine now too
[12:50] <[BU] Brizz> yah I saw that
[12:50] <[BU] Brizz> and it worked fine
[12:50] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: Are you trying to run it with sudo?
[12:50] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: no, I have done that and it works as sudo, but not as my regular user
[12:50] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: I tried changing the permissions on the symbolic link and the file it linked to, but it gave me the same error
[12:51] <LiteHedded> this update-manager works for kubuntu?
[12:51] <LiteHedded> i think it wants to install ubuntu
[12:51] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: so I'm guessing that it is doing something in the binary file that I don't have permission to do...
[12:51] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: Did you install with sudo?
[12:51] <Sanne> sokuban, yeah, looks good. Did you do: sudo apt-get update
[12:51] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: yeah... I also tried installing it as my regular user account
[12:52] <sokuban> yes, the thing I typed in was 'sudo apt-get install zsnes' is that the package name or is it something else?
[12:52] <sokuban> Sanne: oops forgot your name >_>
[12:53] <LiteHedded> anyone?
[12:53] <TheHighChild> LiteHedded: What's up?
[12:53] <LiteHedded> this update-manager works for kubuntu?
[12:53] <LiteHedded> i think it wants to install ubuntu
[12:53] <TheHighChild> LiteHedded: what manager are we talking about?
[12:53] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: The zsnes WIP runs alot faster with SDL (i.e at 1280 by 1024)
[12:53] <LiteHedded> from !upgrade
[12:53] <LiteHedded> it tells me to install the update-manager package
[12:54] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: The version of zsnes in dapper is very old
[12:54] <Sanne> sokuban, that's correct, I just simulated install and got no complaints. Maybe you have partially installed packages now that apt doesn't like. Can you give me the output of 'sudo apt-get install zsnes'?
[12:54] <TheHighChild> LiteHedded: hmmm. When I did an upgrade I used apt-get 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[12:54] <bernier> how can i edit which process runs at boot?
[12:54] <Mitja> Hi! When I switch desktops the list is not shown. Any ideas how to turn it on?
[12:54] <sokuban> Oh! I do have a partially installed zsnes. I compiled it from source but I screwed up and it was broken, I thought it could overwrite it.
[12:55] <sokuban> sorry Sanne, but is the dapper one usable?
[12:55] <TheHighChild> Mitja: You don't see the virtual desktop in your bar?
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> http://files.ipherswipsite.com/zsnes/ZSNESS_0527.tar.bz2 is the one you want
[12:55] <TheHighChild> Mitja: or when you ctrl + tab they don't cycle through?
[12:55] <Sanne> sokuban, no, usually hand compiled packages get installed to a different place (/usr/local...) than the files from the repos.
[12:55] <Mitja> TheHighChild, they cycle, but there's is no list displayed.
[12:56] <Sanne> sokuban, but first please let me see the output of the apt command, ok?
[12:56] <sokuban> Sanne: doing it
[12:56] <TheHighChild> Mitja: That is odd. I would check Kmenu > System Settings > regional & accessibility > keyboard shortcuts and make sure they are mapped
[12:57] <LiteHedded> ok i did dist-upgrade
[12:57] <LiteHedded> do I reboot?
[12:57] <Mitja> TheHighChild, ctrl+tab works, just the list doesn't show up
[12:58] <sokuban> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15621
[12:58] <Sanne> sokuban, ok
[12:58] <TheHighChild> LiteHedded: After a dist-upgrade is finished. You'll want to reboot or restart your xserver. If your system doesn't come bakc up. Sswtich to a failsafe terminal (ctrl + alt+ f1) and login. Try 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' if your x doesn't start.
[12:59] <MidMark> google earth for linux -> http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[12:59] <georgeblunt> n8 all
[01:02] <Sanne> sokuban, hmmm, your package system seems to be a bit out of order. I never did that, but usually you should do what apt tells you (apt-get -f install). But before you do that, maybe somebody esle could have a look and recommend a procedure? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15621
[01:03] <sokuban> Sanne: then it wants me to install some wierd thing, but then when I say yes to it it gives me an error
[01:03] <LiteHedded> i restarted x
[01:03] <LiteHedded> it still says kubuntu 5.10 on my start menu
[01:04] <Sanne> sokuban, which weird thing, and which error? (Sorry, without seeing the output I won't know how to help... I know it's annoying)
[01:04] <LiteHedded> shouldn't it be different for dapper?
[01:05] <Mitja> LiteHedded, 6.06 I guess
[01:05] <LiteHedded> so what do I do. restarting x didn't work
[01:06] <sokuban> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15622
[01:07] <Sanne> sokuban, ok
[01:07] <byen> does anyone know how i can increase the size of the window list on the taskbar. mine are too small
[01:07] <byen> i mean the size of the window botton
[01:10] <Sanne> sokuban, it tries to install the needed dependencies, but fails because you have something amiss with your package system. I think line 23 (5 not fully installed or removed) could be the problem. But I never had this situation, so please could somebody else have a look? I don't know how to help further.
[01:10] <chavo> byen, you have to edit ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc underneath the [General]  section add this ->MaximumButtonWidth=
[01:10] <sokuban> Sanne: I have dinner, I'll be idling (and I eat really fast) so if anyone knows what to do tell me (and put sokuban in the post so I get an alert)
[01:11] <Sanne> sokuban, ok, enjoy your meal :)
[01:11] <byen> chavo: awesome thanks!
[01:11] <Mitja> LiteHedded, can you download iso and burn it to cd? It worked for me.
[01:11] <chavo> then just run -> dcop kicker kicker restart
[01:11] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all
[01:12] <Bibins> hello
[01:12] <stefre> hi
[01:13] <Kadran> hi does any one know a program that is simmilar to paltalk?
[01:15] <byen> thanks you chavo can i also use MinimumButtonWidth?
[01:15] <chavo> byen, no
[01:16] <byen> ok.. so what should it be like? 80 @ chavo
[01:17] <byen> i will try it out... thanks chavo
[01:17] <chavo> byen, I put mine at 440 takes about half the screen
[01:17] <chavo> on 1280x1024
[01:17] <byen> ooh... ok chavo thanks :P
[01:17] <byen> i will try 300 as mine is 1024x728\
[01:18] <byen> brb.. restart kde
[01:18] <MidMark> google earth for linux rocks!
[01:19] <Kadran> MidMark: did they make one?
[01:19] <MidMark> yes! 4.0 beta is out!
[01:20] <MidMark> google earth for linux -> http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[01:20] <Kadran> oh yeah go linux go :), i am gonna try it now
[01:20] <Kadran> thanks
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> It only seems to run as root for me that google earth
[01:20] <MidMark> Kadran: it will impress you, run smootly like windows version
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> Otherwise I get symlink: Permission denied
[01:21] <Kadran> i hated it when it work with wine
[01:21] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: what?
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> can you run google earth as a normal user ?
[01:23] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: mmm no, installed with sudo
[01:23] <sokuban> h3sp4wn: I tried what you said, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15626 and don't mind the close wrapping near the top, sorry
[01:26] <Kadran> does any one know a linux alternative for paltalk?
[01:26] <Kadran> to have voice chat?
[01:26] <Ertain> Are there many current KDE programs in Kubuntu?  All I need to get them is to set apt-get and download them through a mirror?
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: Go into interactive aptitude by sudo aptitude
[01:28] <osiris> Kadran, you could look into teamspeak
[01:29] <Kadran> thanks osiris
[01:31] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: any idea to make google earth works also for user?
[01:31] <Sanne> Ertain, yes, you should get them with apt-get (or Adept, or Synaptic, or aptitude...). Which ones are available, you can check out at packages.ubuntu.com.
[01:31] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: I asked you first .....
[01:31] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: ops :)
[01:31] <Ertain> Sanne: Right-o then.  I'll take a look at that site.
[01:32] <Sanne> Ertain, you can also search with: apt-cache search <searchstring>, but this only searches in the repositories you have enabled.
[01:32] <sokuban> h3sp4wn: How do I remove the package? It won't let me and complains about how it needs to be installed to fulfil unmet dependancies
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Yo Ho
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: What happens if you go on actions install and remove packages ?
[01:35] <chavo> MidMark, I got googleearth to run as user. I installed it in my ~ but all the files were owned by root, then I just sudo chown chavo .google-earth -R and I can run it
[01:36] <sokuban> h3sp4wn: the thing talks about how these packages are going to be installed for dependancies, but umm how do you delete it? I tried '-' '!' but I don't think that is what I want to use, as the thing isn't even installed.
[01:36] <TheHighChild> Any folks know of problems playing cd's on dapper?
[01:36] <DarkRavenMixage> how to set another language in kubuntu?? i can see only us english in the list...
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> sokuban: What is the name of the package ?
[01:37] <MidMark> chavo: I know but I don't want to install for N users in my system :)
[01:37] <TheHighChild> DarkRavenMixage: You'll probably need to get the language packs
[01:37] <sokuban> h3sp4wn: libsdl1.2debian-all
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> sukuban: sudo dpkg -P libsdl1.2debian-all
[01:38] <haider> join #linuxin.dk
[01:39] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: with googleearth %f starts but fails to create its own dirs... continuing to try
[01:40] <DarkRavenMixage> thehighchild i try to reinstall
[01:40] <DarkRavenMixage> them
[01:40] <Raven301> New to kubuntu, making the switch from Mandriva ...
[01:40] <Raven301> How do I get to the hardware settings (eg sound card driver info or to change it)??
[01:42] <MidMark> chavo: you have right, just change .google-earth owner
[01:42] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: change .google-earth owner with your user in your home
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: It does work if you just install it as your user
[01:45] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: nope I have installed via sudo and changed the owner of .google-earth in the home and it works
[01:46] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: of course it works installing via user, but it works only for that user ;)
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: Only me uses this computer
[01:46] <Hhhhh> question: how do I get nexuiz's sound working properly?
[01:46] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: anyway I prefer not installing software in my home
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: At least it has an uninstall program
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: Or script
[01:47] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: where?
[01:47] <TheHighChild> Anyone have trouble with Kate not starting from the command line?
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: /usr/local/google-earth/uninstall
[01:48] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: yes but I prefere deb file, they have uninstall too :)
[01:48] <Healot> starting "kate"  from terminal... no
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: I don't like using checkinstall (would rather just install it manually) debuild is alot better than that though really (and my preferred way)
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> MidMark: is there a deb of google earth (i.e made properly ?)
[01:51] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: haven't seen for now
[01:53] <chavo> Ok I figured out how to install and let users run it
[01:53] <chavo> run -> sudo sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin --nochown
[01:54] <chavo> then you can put it in /usr/local and still run it as user
[01:55] <chavo> If you have a lot of ram and diskspace go to the config and crank up the cache to the max
[01:56] <james_xxx> how would i go about accessing xorg.conf?
[01:56] <james_xxx> sudo nano xorg.conf?
[01:57] <chavo> james_xxx, that'll work
[01:58] <james_xxx> chavo: ty
[01:58] <Raven301> What is the command for the Control Center in Kubuntu??
[01:59] <h3sp4wn> kcontrol
[02:00] <james_xxx> actually, when i sudo nano xorg.conf..... i don't get xorg.conf lol
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:00] <james_xxx> ahhh
[02:00] <james_xxx> ty h3sp4wn
[02:00] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: I've switched from Mandriva, there it was MCC .. Looking for the section to change drivers for sound card etc??
[02:01] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: so is that still kcontrol?
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: The sound stuff should be done automatically
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: What do you mean by change drivers is the wrong driver being loaded or do you have 2 soundcards
[02:02] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: looking to see what driver is loaded
[02:02] <stn> System Information for    [ antrax ] 
[02:02] <stn> OS/Kernel                 Linux 2.6.12-10-386
[02:02] <stn> CPU Info                  AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ 2162.800 Mhz   4276.22 Bogomips
[02:02] <stn> HD Info                   200GB total storage capacity
[02:02] <stn> Memory                    207.195/1012.35MB
[02:02] <stn> Processes                 94
[02:03] <stn> Uptime                    52 min
[02:03] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: Is sound not working ?
[02:03] <visik7> googleearth for linux gtk installer app in qt
[02:03] <visik7> lol
[02:04] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: yes but I'm trying something out and need to see what driver it's using ... New to kubuntu ... Switch from Mandriva today
[02:05] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: in mandriva i just typed mcc and the control center came up and I could change drivers setup the firewall etc
[02:06] <stn> who install the xgl program
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: cat /proc/asound/cards && ls -R /proc/asound/card0/ should tell you what you need to know
[02:06] <stn> for dapperr
[02:06] <leafw> !xgl
[02:06] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:06] <visik7> !aiglx
[02:06] <ubotu> [aiglx]  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068
[02:07] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: ok thanks but is there something like mcc for kubuntu?
[02:07] <stn> ubuntu
[02:07] <stn> no
[02:07] <stn> kubuntu
[02:07] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: I don't know what mcc is
[02:07] <leafw> stn : same thing.
[02:07] <stn> have a lite diferences
[02:07] <stn> is no same
[02:08] <stn> the program compiz
[02:08] <stn> y not same in kubuntu to ubuntu
[02:08] <Raven301> it's the control center where you can change modem net info drivers hard drive info etc
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: Don't know I just use the standard linux tools - System Settings is probably about the closest
[02:09] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: It's using oss the sound card ... I want it to use alsa ... how would I change  it??
[02:09] <Raito> For some reason, with Ktorrent the download stops and it gives me Error: Error: Reading past the end of the file /home/raito/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor0/cache/nameoffileintorrent What happened?
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: How do you know it is supported by alsa ?
[02:10] <Raven301> be I've used it before and that is what I need for testing E17 module
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: How do you know that it is using oss ?
[02:10] <Raven301> the command you gave me
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> just because oss_mixer is there it doesn't mean you are using oss
[02:11] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: oh ... ok ... but System Settings is what i'm looking for thanks
[02:12] <h3sp4wn> Try running aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav (if that works alsa is working)
[02:14] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: thanks ... so aplay is for alsa?
[02:15] <h3sp4wn> arecord, aplay - command-line sound recorder and player for ALSA soundcard driver (first line of man aplay)
[02:15] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: big thanks :)
[02:21] <bojan> i just upgraded to dapper
[02:21] <bojan> and its really messed up =[
[02:21] <bojan> like nothing shows up in my taskbar
[02:22] <bojan> there were no buttons in it
[02:22] <bojan> and i had to add the buttons (Kmenu etc...) manually
[02:22] <bojan> and no applications show up in it
[02:22] <bojan> if I minimize an app I have to Alt+Tab to it to get it back
[02:22] <bojan> anyone know whats up?
[02:24] <Sanne> bojan, I don't know what's happened to you, but you could add the taskbar applet back to the panel by right clicking -> add to panel
[02:24] <bojan> i did that
[02:24] <Sanne> oh
[02:24] <bojan> but for example i have konversation open now, there is no item in the taskbar for konversation
[02:25] <bojan> k nvm
[02:25] <bojan> my kicker was completely messed for some reason
[02:25] <Sanne> bojan, did you get it worked out?
[02:26] <bojan> yes i think so
[02:26] <Sanne> bojan, what did you do (so I know what to do if it happens to me)?
[02:26] <bojan> i added taskbar as u said
[02:27] <bojan> i thought i already did that though
[02:27] <bojan> sorry
[02:27] <bojan> so i did it again
[02:27] <Sanne> bojan, ah, ok, no worries :)
[02:38] <ryanakca> "68020 processor or better" = 686?
[02:39] <SurfnKid> whoa
[02:39] <SurfnKid> I guess this is better than xubuntu
[02:39] <SurfnKid> thats a lot of people
[02:40] <ryanakca> SurfnKid: just because more people use it doesn't mean it's better...
[02:40] <SurfnKid> good point
[02:40] <SurfnKid> thats why im in xubuntu
[02:40] <SurfnKid> :)
[02:40] <ryanakca> this about it... More people use windows... but that doesn't make it better than linux... :)
[02:40] <SurfnKid> makes it more dependent
[02:42] <bleaked> how might one do a system wide dependency check and fix?  (preferably with aptitude)
[02:43] <kkathman> dependency check??? hmm dont know why you'd need that
[02:44] <kkathman> when you install, it does that at the same time
[02:48] <bleaked> kkathman: well, you see, i turned a good friend onto *ubuntu.. he played with both livecds, my tricked out kde pc, and still decided on a gnome-centric desktop.. so whatever, i encouraged it and he installed.  since he's new to linux, i have had to help him out a little bit.. for somethings i needed to know the gnome desktop, so i installed the ubuntu-desktop package for this purpous.  time has passed and i need not help him, and so since
[02:49] <bleaked> make sense?
[02:52] <bleaked> kkathman: did you get my msg?
[02:52] <kkathman> yes
[02:53] <kkathman> well if you installed everything to completion...including the gnome, I dont think you should have any issues
[02:53] <bleaked> kkathman: ok, i just saw my own quit msg and i wasn't sure if it went through..
[02:53] <kkathman> only if you have hard-installed some other component, or compiled your own..etc
[02:53] <kkathman> there might be a compatibility, but you'd probably know by now
[02:54] <kkathman> worse case, copy your $HOME over to a cd or something and reinstall...its not that big of a deal :)
[02:54] <becster> Anyone know of a workaround for the sharing module in kcontrol? To get it working etc?
[02:55] <bleaked> another question for the channel.. when i had kde installed on my deb box, in konq, there was an option to split the view into two windows.. (i see how to do that in kubuntu), but you could also turn one of the split views into a terminal that was linked to actions you did in the graphical file browser..
[02:55] <kkathman> howdy Snake :)
[02:56] <Snake> kkathman: heyy
[02:56] <Snake> kkathman: spending more time in here?
[02:56] <kkathman> Snake:  sigh...Im always here, in #suse and in ##windows :)
[02:56] <kkathman> I run all three
[02:57] <Snake> kkathman: I know, but you seem to be chillin in here more :)
[02:58] <Snake> kkathman: as you did see me come in (unless your constantly rotating your screen)
[03:00] <kkathman> Snake:  I have kvirc so I dont need to rotate the screens..I see them all at once
[03:00] <kkathman> I dont like that tabbed stuff
[03:00] <kkathman> like Konversation
[03:00] <Snake> kkathman: ahh gotcha
[03:01] <Snake> kkathman: yes them evil evil tabs :P
[03:01] <kkathman> heh
[03:01] <DaSkreech> Snake: The kwin tabs?
[03:09] <kkathman> wb Snake
[03:09] <hybrid> Snake: nice disco
[03:09] <Snake> kkathman: sorry I got pwned by a n00b that said /disco would make a neat ascii art thing.
[03:09] <kkathman> uh oh
[03:09] <kkathman> lol
[03:11] <RawSewage> http://earth.google.com/
[03:12] <bojan> i have no soundi have no sound in dapper now =[volumes seem ok. sound settings same as before. any ideas?
[03:12] <RawSewage> new version of Google Earth released today, and first time native Linux version
[03:13] <DaSkreech> World Wind
[03:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> RawSewage: Yep. And it works on amd64. :P
[03:14] <RawSewage> I dont have 64 bit
[03:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> RawSewage: Maybe not, but I do, and sometimes things need a bit of convincing to run. :)
[03:15] <RawSewage> just think of yourself as a pioneer
[03:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:19] <Mitja> What's the postfix for konqueror to open a new tab?
[03:21] <DaSkreech> Mitja: Sorry?
[03:22] <Mitja> konqueror %u opens a new konqueror, what opens a new tab inside already opened konqueror?
[03:23] <DaSkreech> Ah.. Not sure
[03:24] <Mitja> How can setup default mount point for removable media like usbdisk?
[03:25] <kkathman> Mitja:  you'll need to set your browser settings to open in the current window
[03:25] <kkathman> at least that works in FFox and Opera
[03:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> kkathman: In opera you can do 'opera --newtab' to get a new tab. Dunno about Firefox/Konqueror
[03:26] <kkathman> gosh I never really worried...just set the settings in the browser...works for me :)
[03:29] <Healot> Mitja: you can set the entry manually in fstab
[03:30] <Mitja> Healot, I can
[03:30] <Healot> but the device name might change...
[03:30] <Mitja> Healot, how often?
[03:30] <Healot> so I suggest to keep it dynamic...
[03:30] <jagch> hi, i'm new to linux, and created another account for my wife, but in that account I can not mount the hard/usb drives ... is something related to permissions?
[03:31] <Healot> Mitja: if you pull the device off and plug it in back without properly umounting the device
[03:31] <Healot> but if you're sure the device name doesn't change, then you can keep the entry in fstab
[03:31] <Mitja> Speaking of umounting, how do I create an icon on the destkop?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> jagch: How do you mount drives in your account?
[03:32] <jagch> well, in my account they are mounted when kubuntu starts
[03:32] <DrBair> Mitja: the new account will need to be in the plugdev group
[03:32] <Healot> in KDE, you can add Device icon manually... and add the entry of a device listed in fstab
[03:33] <DaSkreech> jagch: ah.
[03:33] <DrBair> jagch: last one was for you, sorry
[03:33] <Snake__> kkathman: you here
[03:34] <Snake__> kkathman: come on!! ping ping ping!
[03:34] <jagch> when i switch to the another session i can see the hard drives, but only can read the one where kubuntu is installed
[03:35] <Kadran> MidMark: hi
[03:36] <Mitja> Healot, thank you
[03:36] <DaSkreech> hahaha!!onehundredeleven!!
[03:37] <DaSkreech> Beats of Rage is released for Linux :-)
[03:37] <Snake__> DaSkreech: whats that
[03:37] <newuserAK> does anybody know what "mrv8k: probe of 0000:07:00.0 failed with error -2" means when im trying to access my pcmcia wifi card?
[03:37] <DaSkreech> http://www.senileteam.com/borinfo.php
[03:39] <Snake__> DaSkreech: cool
[03:39] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[03:39] <Snake__> I half wish I had a dance pad for stepmania
[03:44] <RawSewage> how do you install a .bin file again
[03:44] <RawSewage> !bin
[03:44] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RawSewage
[03:44] <RawSewage> !.bin
[03:44] <ubotu> RawSewage: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:45] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: try ./file.bin
[03:45] <RawSewage> ty
[03:45] <RawSewage> no
[03:46] <Mitja> Anybody knows where are removable media settings?
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> RawSewage: Make sure you make it executable.
[03:46] <RawSewage> oh
[03:46] <jagch> correction... i created a new user, when i login as that user i can see hard/usb drives (they indicate to be mounted), but i'm not allowed to read their content ... anyone can help me?
[03:46] <RawSewage> ok ty
[03:48] <imbrandon> menmel
[03:49] <imbrandon> is gonna die
[03:49] <imbrandon> haha
[03:49] <svivian> Good evening all, having a problem with 6.06 display configuration: When I go in to configure the screen configuration, I click Administrator mode, start making modification, everything seems to be fine, but I can't apply any of my changes. I have an ATI FireGL card (which was apparently detected properly), and have dual monitors (I am trying to set it up as one wide screen).
[03:53] <kyle_> Hey, how do I reinstall the boot menu? it wants to boot into windows all the time
[03:53] <svivian> kyle_: Edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:55] <svivian> kyle_: Count the number of "title"s you see, starting at 0, until you reach the WIndows line, then change the Default number to that number you reached. Save, and reboot (you will need to sudo in order to edit that file).
[03:55] <RawSewage> Google Earth is running me in slow software mode
[03:55] <DrBair> RawSewage: got video drivers?
[03:56] <RawSewage> yes, it worked on Windows
[03:56] <DrBair> RawSewage: but do you have video drivers installed in linux?
[03:56] <RawSewage> I guess not
[03:56] <Healot> RawSewage: you enabled 3D acceleration?
[03:56] <RawSewage> how do I do that
[03:56] <RawSewage> no
[03:56] <DrBair> what vid card do you have?
[03:56] <Healot> depends on what graphics adapter you have
[03:56] <RawSewage> I dont know
[03:57] <RawSewage> how do I find out
[03:57] <DrBair> run lspci and look for it in there
[03:57] <DrBair> in a terminal window
[03:57] <RawSewage> ok
[03:57] <Healot> or just open the KDE Info Center
[03:57] <DrBair> that too...
[03:57] <Healot> X server section
[03:57] <RawSewage> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200]  (rev a3)
[03:58] <DrBair> i wish i knew how to make ubotu do stuff
[03:58] <RawSewage> I navigated to the KDE control module for hardware
[03:59] <DrBair> !nvidia
[03:59] <ubotu> nvidia is probably Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:59] <Healot> that one...
[03:59] <DrBair> wow, i am just good
[03:59] <DrBair> :-)
[03:59] <DrBair> RawSewage: check out the link
[03:59] <RawSewage> the generic NVIDIA GEForce4 driver is already installed
[04:00] <DrBair> use adept instead of synaptic obviously
[04:00] <RawSewage> the generic NVIDIA GEForce4 driver is already installed.  should I still visit that link?
[04:00] <DrBair> the generic driver does not have 3D acceleration
[04:00] <RawSewage> ok
[04:00] <RawSewage> Im at the list of drivers I can use
[04:01] <RawSewage> I just need to know which one to choose
[04:01] <RawSewage> ok, I'll follow the instructions on that page.  ty
[04:02] <kwtm> How do I get rid of Katapult?  It keeps intercepting my favourite key combination, Alt-Space.
[04:03] <imbrandon> sudo apt-get --purge remove katapult
[04:03] <RawSewage> you dont have to get rid of it.  just go to the menu editor, select Katapult, and it gives you options
[04:03] <DrBair> kwtm: or just killall katapult
[04:03] <svivian> Good evening all, having a problem with 6.06 display configuration: When I go in to configure the screen configuration, I click Administrator mode, start making modification, everything seems to be fine, but I can't apply any of my changes. I have an ATI FireGL card (which was apparently detected properly), and have dual monitors (I am trying to set it up as one wide screen).
[04:03] <DaSkreech> kwtm: Alt+space
[04:03] <DaSkreech> Then Ctrl+C
[04:03] <DaSkreech> change the shortcut key to something else
[04:04] <kwtm> DaSkreech, DrBair, imbrandon: Thanks.  Didn't know that.  RawSewage: Tell me more.  Katapult is in the menu?  I can't find it anywhere; it seems to have insinuated itself into the system.  I think it's useful, if only I could change the activating key combo.
[04:05] <RawSewage> Utilities
[04:05] <DaSkreech> kwtm: Follow my instructions
[04:05] <Cayou> Hi guys, Screensaver not turning on here, happenned to anyone?
[04:05] <kwtm> DaSkreech: Will try.
[04:06] <DrBair>  Cayou: do you have the start automatically checkbox checked?
[04:06] <RawSewage> follow DaSkreech's instructions then
[04:07] <Cayou> DrBair: Yes, but it doesn't start..
[04:07] <kwtm> DaSkreech, RawSewage: Thank you!  I have been tearing my hair out.  It would be nice if it showed up on the system tray (which I have now set it to do) so that I can at least get a context menu.
[04:07] <RawSewage> I think the Alt+Space might be hard-coded
[04:08] <RawSewage> now that I look at it
[04:08] <kwtm> RawSewage: No, I have changed it to Win+Space
[04:08] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: Doubt it
[04:08] <RawSewage> ok
[04:08] <DrBair> Cayou: does it go to a blank screen when it should pull up the screen saver?
[04:08] <DaSkreech> Try Alt+Space then Ctrl+C
[04:08] <kwtm> RawSewage: It makes much more sense to make window management key combos use the Win key, since otherwise the key is completely useless.  I have no idea what the Windows users use it for.
[04:08] <Cayou> DrBair: No, it just doesn't do anything
[04:08] <RawSewage> cool
[04:09] <RawSewage> Windows pops up the Start Menu I think
[04:09] <Ultrannosaur> hey DaSkreech
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> !seen Hobsee
[04:09] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'hobsee', CaBlGuY
[04:09] <Ultrannosaur> this is AMEGALUSX if you're wondering
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Yup?
[04:09] <imbrandon> !seen hobbsee
[04:09] <ubotu> hobbsee <n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-offtopic, 10h 38m 29s ago, saying: '@time sydney'.
[04:09] <kwtm> DaSkreech: good call.  KDE is so infinitely configurable, which is why I chose it over GNOME.
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Ah
[04:09] <DaSkreech> I Was :)
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm  she's slippin..  :p
[04:09] <Ultrannosaur> lol
[04:10] <NthDegree> kwtm windows use Windows Key + M for minimise all windows, pressing it on it's own brings up start menu, and Windows Key + E calls up windows explorer (file manager part)
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Yeah sometimes a pain in the butt configurable
[04:10] <Ultrannosaur> and this isnt even the name i wanted...im usiing windows mirc right now
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Haha :)
[04:10] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:10] <kwtm> DaSkreech: Yes, but you can configure to be a pain in your Left Butt, your Right Butt, or your Cigarette Butt.
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> yur in winblowz ....   Sawwree d00d..
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[04:10] <DaSkreech> kwtm: At least you can choose what kolour pain in the butt :)
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Ultrannosaur: Whats Up?
[04:11] <DrBair> Cayou: does it work if you test the screensaver?
[04:11] <CaBlGuY> imbrandon, got a sec??
[04:11] <Cayou> DrBair: yes, perfectly
[04:11] <Ultrannosaur> i dont even know how to change my name
[04:11] <imbrandon> sup CaBlGuY
[04:11] <imbrandon> Ultrannosaur, /nick <new name>
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ultrannosaur: /nick <nick>
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dang it, I'm slow. :)
[04:11] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:12] <kwtm> Hey, didn't my system tray use to have two rows, so that four icons could fit onto a square?  How come all the icons are in a horizontal row now and taking up precious screen real estate?
[04:12] <Official_C> DaSkreech: thanks
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> imbrandon well, I got access to my slave win. partition but I don't have permision to write or save stuff to it. Can ya guide me thorugh that??  or point me in the right direction....
[04:12] <FreshPrince> hi @ all
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Cool though I didn't help with that :)
[04:12] <imbrandon> kwtm, adjust the height of kicker in systemsettings --> appearance
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> greets FreshPrince
[04:12] <FreshPrince> does anybody use kubuntu on a notebook?
[04:12] <Official_C> haha, my bad, read the wrong name
[04:13] <kwtm> imbrandon: will try.  Thx
[04:13] <Official_C> thank you CHeeseburgerman
[04:13] <imbrandon> CaBlGuY, sure
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> not on a notebook..   nope..
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> FreshPrince: I do.
[04:13] <Cayou> Anyone has problems with Screensaver?
[04:13] <kkathman> Cayou what kind of probs?
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Notebook, and AMD64...I guess I like challenges. :)
[04:14] <Cayou> It doesnt start
[04:14] <kkathman> Cayou:  you have to make sure your power mgmt is on
[04:14] <FreshPrince> CheeseBurgerMan: it doesnt suck with kde on a laptop?.. because u must klick around with the touch screen.. doesn sucks?
[04:14] <kkathman> its a little known quirk in KDE
[04:14] <kwtm> imbrandon: Kicker height not found in System Settings > Appearance.  Do you mean System Settings > Panel?  I guess I could adjust the size of the panel, but I hadn't touched it before, and I don't want it too large...
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> FreshPrince: I disabled the tap-to-click.
[04:14] <Cayou> kkathman: how?
[04:14] <kkathman> Cayou:  just turn on your display power management and run the times as high as you can
[04:14] <imbrandon> kwtm, just make it < 48pix to make two rows of icons
[04:15] <FreshPrince> CheeseBurgerMan: how u mean?
[04:15] <kwtm> imbrandon: ok, will try
[04:15] <kkathman> Cayou:  rt click the desktop, configure desktop...choose display and then the power mgmt tab
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> FreshPrince: When I tap my touchpad, the laptop doesn't interpret it as a left click. By default, it does.
[04:15] <Cayou> I don't get the power mgmt tab
[04:16] <kkathman> Cayou  its called Power Control
[04:16] <LiteHedded> ok i did the dist-upgrade and I dont think it worked
[04:16] <Cayou> kkathman : do you mean the option to turn the monitor off after a set time? (Power Saving)?
[04:17] <kkathman> Cayou:  Right click the desktop, choose "Configure Desktop".. on the left choose DISPLAY...then go to the Power control tab
[04:17] <kkathman> then enable power control
[04:17] <Cayou> kkathman : there is no DISPLAY :(
[04:17] <kkathman> WHAT??
[04:17] <kwtm> imbrandon: Damn, making the panel thinner doesn't make the system tray (is that same as "kicker", or is "kicker" the whole panel?) take up two rows.  I tried making it thicker, thick enough that now the taskbar is three rows by n columns, and still the system tray is only one single horizontal row of icons.  Is there some way of adjust the icon size itself?  I'll have to look around.
[04:17] <kkathman> Cayou:  what happens when you right click on the desktop?
[04:18] <Cayou> I got : Background, Behavior, Multiple Desktops and Screen Saver
[04:19] <LiteHedded> ok i did the dist-upgrade and I dont think it worked
[04:19] <kkathman> hmm
[04:19] <kkathman> weird
[04:19] <Cayou> kkathman: I did find a Power Saving tab under System Settings in the menu, the only option there is to turn off the monitor after a set period of time
[04:19] <Sebastian> hey, i had a partition for windows and another for kubuntu, i remember i had downloaded some drive so i could open the kubuntu partition from windows but now i can't, i go to my computer and click on W:// and it says it's not been formatted asks me if i want to format it and i say no but it won't let me open it
[04:19] <svivian> anyone?
[04:20] <kkathman> Cayou:  try this instead...   alt-f2  type kcontrol... choose peripherals then display
[04:20] <RawSewage> Ok, I think I got it working
[04:20] <svivian> Also, just downloaded a bunch of packages. For some reason the X screensaver doesn't show up in the menu like it did for Kubuntu 5.10
[04:21] <Cayou> kkathman, same option to turn the monitor off after a time, but I only want the screensaver
[04:21] <rredd4> I tried to install kubuntu onto an existing ext3 partition, when I got to the swap part, the installer could not see it.  I was using the desktop cd, dapper.   not sure why it would not allow me to use existing swap..
[04:21] <kkathman> Cayou:  thats weird
[04:21] <kkathman> I guess kubuntu disabled that option
[04:21] <rredd4> I was putting it over debian
[04:21] <kkathman> sux
[04:21] <kwtm> imbrandon: Holy cow.  I think I know what happened.  I was running Grip.  When I closed it and its icon disappeared from the system tray, everything went back to two rows.  Probably because Grip is a GNOME application and doesn't know how to behave in a KDE tray.
[04:22] <kkathman> Im on SUSE right now...maybe somone can tell you where the display power saving is
[04:22] <imbrandon> heh
[04:22] <Cayou> kkathman, you were saying :"run the times as high as you can"... what did you mean?
[04:22] <kkathman> Cayou:  on the power control tab on my install, you can determine how long a time there is before the display shuts off
[04:23] <kkathman> Cayou:  stand-by, suspend and power off times
[04:23] <imbrandon> Cayou, on kubuntu goto system setting ---> display ---> power tab ( last one )
[04:23] <Official_C> is anyone here good at writing shell scripts?
[04:23] <imbrandon> uncheck that box
[04:23] <svivian> Anyone have any thoughts on why I can't apply changes in the display System Settings?
[04:23] <Cayou> kkathman : I don't want the display to shut off, only the screensaver. Also, I don't have the stand-by, suspend options
[04:24] <kkathman> imbrandon:  no he wants to set that to get the screensaver to work
[04:24] <kkathman> KDE has a quirk that the screensaver wont engage unles power mgmt is enabled (dumb but true)
[04:24] <imbrandon> kkathman, that has nothing to do with the screen saver
[04:24] <kkathman> well actually it does :)
[04:24] <kkathman> seemingly it shouldnt
[04:24] <kkathman> hehe
[04:24] <imbrandon> kkathman, mine works fine without pwr mgmt
[04:24] <kkathman> you have to enable it first..then you cant turn it off :)
[04:25] <kkathman> hehe
[04:25] <kkathman> I learned that from #kde
[04:25] <Cayou> kkathman : oh... I see.. that's a weird bug...  The problem is my monitor is getting a little old and it needs to be "warm" to work properly, if it shuts dows it gets cold ... (I know, time to buy new monitor...)
[04:25] <kkathman> yah they think its weird too
[04:25] <kkathman> hehe
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> kkathman: my SS works just fine and I haven't messed with the power save stuff at all...
[04:26] <kkathman> CaBlGuY:  what KDE vers
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> 3.5
[04:26] <Cayou> kkathman, I'll try that and stop typing for a minute, brb
[04:26] <kkathman> 3.5 what?
[04:26] <imbrandon> 3.5.2 and 3.5.3
[04:26] <imbrandon> on mine
[04:26] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:26] <kkathman> both?
[04:27] <kkathman> at the same time?
[04:27] <kkathman> lol
[04:27] <imbrandon> i have many diffrent boxes here i develope with ;)
[04:27] <imbrandon> and yes one has both
[04:27] <imbrandon> actualy both + kde4 svn
[04:27] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:27] <kkathman> I have 3.5.2 on kubuntu and 3.5.3 on SUSE
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> 3.5 KDE
[04:27] <imbrandon> all my boxes are kubuntu
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> brb
[04:28] <kkathman> CaBlGuY:  I meant  3.5.0, 3.5.1, 3.5.2, or 3.5.3 :)
[04:28] <kkathman> lol
[04:28] <kkathman> its ok
[04:28] <kkathman> np
[04:29] <Healot> you meant ubuntu with KDE ?
[04:29] <Healot> hehe
[04:30] <kkathman> ubuntu w/KDE = Kubuntu :)
[04:30] <kkathman> hehe
[04:30] <kkathman> bbl
[04:30] <CaBlGuY> Oh..  ya silly..   it's 3.5.0 I believe../.
[04:30] <Cayou> kkathman: still won't work... oh well..
[04:30] <imbrandon> CaBlGuY, type /sysinfo
[04:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> CaBlGuY: Dapper comes with 3.5.2 by default.
[04:31] <Cayou> Sysinfo for 'steve-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-23-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.00GHz at 2999 MHz (5996 bogomips), , RAM: 313/502MB, 96 proc's, 5.45h up
[04:31] <RawSewage> Google EArth works great on Linux
[04:31] <Healot> you tried it? with 3D acceleration
[04:32] <imbrandon> RawSewage, depends on your box , not for everyone ..... http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot5.png
[04:32] <CaBlGuY> not givin me anything when I type /sysinfo
[04:32] <RawSewage> imbrandon, did you get todays Linux release
[04:32] <CaBlGuY> CheeseBurgerMan:  I installed base Ubuntu and then installed KDE after the fact
[04:33] <imbrandon> RawSewage, thats todays linux release
[04:33] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:33] <RawSewage> why is it doing that
[04:33] <imbrandon> exactly, thats why i said not for everyone ;)
[04:33] <RawSewage> and why did you make your LInux look like Windows
[04:33] <LiteHedded> ok i did the dist-upgrade and I dont think it worked
[04:33] <imbrandon> RawSewage, becouse i can
[04:34] <imbrandon> LiteHedded, why do you say that ?
[04:34] <RawSewage> lol
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> CaBlGuY: Doesn't matter, you'll still get the default version unless you added a non-default repo for a later version.
[04:34] <LiteHedded> in my start menu it still says 5.10
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> CaBlGuY: In your Konversation type '/sysinfo'
[04:34] <imbrandon> did you reboot after the upgrade ?
[04:34] <CaBlGuY> ok, gimme a sec
[04:35] <imbrandon> CaBlGuY, in konvorsation no konsole
[04:35] <LiteHedded> yea I rebooted imbrandon
[04:35] <imbrandon> ahh wait
[04:35] <imbrandon> CaBlGuY, you not on konversation you using a gnome irc client
[04:35] <imbrandon> thats why
[04:35] <imbrandon> [21:33]  [CTCP]  Received CTCP-VERSION reply from CaBlGuY: xchat-gnome 0.11 Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 [i686] 
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK then, paste the results of 'kded --version'
[04:36] <imbrandon> LiteHedded, type "cat /etc/issue.net" in a konsole and tell me what it says
[04:36] <LiteHedded> k lemme try it
[04:36] <LiteHedded> lemme join here from the linux machine
[04:36] <GullyFoyle> how do i get ksmoothdock to start automatically? do i put it in ~/.kde/Autostart?
[04:36] <CaBlGuY> yes, actually I am using Gnome IRC client while logged into KDE environemtn.. :P
[04:36] <imbrandon> GullyFoyle, a link you it yes
[04:36] <LiteHedded> says it's still breezy imbrandon
[04:37] <LiteHedded> ok back
[04:37] <LiteHedded> still here imbrandon?
[04:37] <CaBlGuY> so, imbrandon I would have to switch over to use the /sysinfo then yes?
[04:37] <imbrandon> LiteHedded, ok hold on PM we'll get you fixed up
[04:37] <LiteHedded> okie dokie
[04:38] <imbrandon> CaBlGuY, i personaly wouldent use a gnome client on kde but in konsole type what CheeseBurgerMan said and it wqill do the same thing
[04:38] <CaBlGuY> imbrandon well, yur not me. ;)
[04:38] <svivian> Sysinfo for 'CSASYSADMINL': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)DCPU3.20GHz at 2800 MHz (6405 bogomips), , RAM: 901/1011MB, 106 proc's, 54.25min up
[04:39] <svivian> anyone?
[04:39] <CaBlGuY> I actually kinda like the Gnome environment better, I'm a "minimalist" but KDE visualy looks nicer..
[04:39] <svivian> anyone?
[04:40] <Healot> CaBlGuY: if you're a minimalist, you should choose xfce or twm ...
[04:40] <GullyFoyle> i like fluxbox with kde support, it's blazing fast
[04:40] <CaBlGuY> Healot:  what r thoze?
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> svivian: Try running 'kdesu kcontrol' - that way you won't need to use Admin mode
[04:41] <Official_C> anyone try xgl?
[04:41] <CaBlGuY> Official_C:  I got it installed yes..
[04:41] <Official_C> i saw a demo video of it today...its pretty sick
[04:41] <Official_C> CaBleGuy: how do you like it
[04:41] <CaBlGuY> Official_C:  works good for me...  seems to anyway..
[04:41] <CaBlGuY> no probs thus far..
[04:42] <Official_C> cawhat kinda specs do you have?
[04:42] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: Just tried that. I get errors:
[04:42] <svivian> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:42] <svivian>   Major opcode:  145
[04:42] <svivian>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:42] <svivian>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:42] <svivian> Failed to open device
[04:42] <svivian> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:42] <svivian>   Major opcode:  145
[04:42] <svivian>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:42] <svivian>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:42] <svivian> Failed to open device
[04:42] <NthDegree> CaBlGuY if you are a minimalist then use xubuntu and expert setup to install only the base system and manually apt-get the parts you want from there
[04:43] <NthDegree> :p anyway's i'm off to bed
[04:43] <NthDegree> night :)
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> svivian: OK then, run 'sudo -i' and then run 'kcontrol'
[04:43] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
[04:44] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: I think something got missed in the install.
[04:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, apparently.
[04:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> can you run 'systemsettings' ?
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmmmm
[04:45] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: Cannot connect to X server
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> well, once I learn Linux like I need to, I'll get right on that.. :p
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> brb
[04:45] <ubuntu> hmm
[04:46] <ubuntu> 6.06 is damn nice.
[04:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> svivian: What can you run?
[04:47] <GullyFoyle> how do i add a pager to my taskbar?
[04:47] <svivian> adept runs fine, other regular apps run fine. Terminal is ok
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> well, I aint got Konversation..  :/
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> I'm in KSirc now..
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:47] <svivian> I just run into problems with the "Administrator Mode" button
[04:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm, what can you run as root?
[04:48] <nivek> everything?
[04:48] <nivek> >.>
[04:50] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: give me an example.
[04:50] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: just ran xscreensaver. It barked at me, so I know it is installed. However, it never showed up on the menu like it did in 5.10
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> krita, gwenview
[04:51] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: I keep getting "cannot connect to X server"
[04:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm not sure what's wrong with it. :(
[04:51] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: Is there an easy way to reinstall X?
[04:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> You can reconfigure it easily. I'm not sure about reinstalling.
[04:52] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: Or rather, is there a package on which all the other X packs depend, so I can remove it and reinstall?
[04:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure.
[04:52] <imbrandon> svivian, type "xhost +" as your normal user before trying to run an x app as root
[04:52] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: It must be installed, or KDE wouldn't run, I'm thinking
[04:52] <CaBlGuY> brb again...
[04:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes, I know it's installed, I just dont know what package. ;)
[04:52] <barros_> hi all.. i've just noticed a package called linux-kernel-header.. how can I remove (or update) it to my vanilla kernel
[04:52] <barros_> ?
[04:53] <svivian> imbrandon: What will that do?
[04:53] <imbrandon> alloow root to connect to your x server
[04:53] <svivian> imbrandon: I get: access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[04:53] <imbrandon> barros sudo apt-get install linux-headers-(`uname -r`)
[04:54] <imbrandon> svivian, right now try sudo -i
[04:54] <imbrandon> and kcontrol
[04:54] <barros_> imbrandon: does it work when I compile a vanilla kernel?
[04:54] <svivian> imbrandon: I ran xscreensaver again. It launched, but I also saw
[04:54] <svivian> xscreensaver: warning: $DISPLAY is not set: defaulting to ":0.0".
[04:54] <svivian> Unknown device ID 5B64, please report. Assuming plain R300.
[04:54] <imbrandon> yes that gets the current running kernel version app
[04:55] <barros_> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.16.20
[04:55] <imbrandon> ahh barros you dident compile from ubuntu sources ?
[04:55] <barros_> nope.. got it from kernel.org
[04:56] <imbrandon> ahh then thats where you need to get the source from and unzip it to /usr/src/linux
[04:56] <imbrandon> you have to do things by hand now that you have done it the un official way
[04:56] <svivian> imbrandon: I still get ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
[04:56] <imbrandon> svivian, try ....
[04:56] <imbrandon> svivian, try "export DISPLAY=:0" as root
[04:57] <CaBlGuY> okey dokey..
[04:57] <CaBlGuY> Sysinfo for 'none': Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon at 995 MHz (1992 bogomips), , RAM: 932/1010MB, 93 proc's, 20.3h up
[04:57] <barros_> imbrandon: hmm.. can I just remove all files from linux-kernel-header and then make links by myself?
[04:57] <svivian> imbrandon: done
[04:57] <CaBlGuY> there
[04:57] <barros_> imbrandon: /usr/include/asm and linux
[04:58] <imbrandon> svivian, now run kcontrol
[04:58] <imbrandon> if not i got one more thing to try ;)
[04:58] <imbrandon> lol
[04:58] <CaBlGuY> this is kinda nice lookin....
[04:58] <winbond> i need help with setting up raid0 , anyone raided?
[04:58] <CaBlGuY> got slave but not raided...
[04:58] <imbrandon> winbond, what exactly do you need help with, ;) we have to have specific questions ;)
[04:58] <svivian> imbrandon: ok, kcontrol came up, but I still got a bunch of errors:
[04:59] <svivian> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:59] <svivian>   Major opcode:  145
[04:59] <imbrandon> svivian, thats ok thats normal
[04:59] <svivian>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:59] <svivian>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:59] <imbrandon> yea
[04:59] <svivian> Failed to open device
[04:59] <imbrandon> thats fine
[04:59] <svivian> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:59] <svivian>   Major opcode:  145
[04:59] <svivian>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:59] <svivian>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:59] <svivian> Failed to open device
[04:59] <winbond> well , i need to know how to set it up since the grub doesnt install on raided partitions
[04:59] <imbrandon> thats just means you have extra stuff in xorg.conf
[04:59] <imbrandon> no biggie
[04:59] <imbrandon> ignor that stuff
[05:00] <imbrandon> winbond, yea what you would have to do is have /boot on a non raid device and install grub to that device
[05:00] <barros_> imbrandon: ok.. i'll recompile using the linux-source tree... it is just a case of make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image, right?
[05:00] <KuLover> Anyone use a Kubuntu compatible USB micraphone/headset that they could reccomend?
[05:00] <imbrandon> barros SHOULD be
[05:00] <barros_> imbrandon: ok.. i wanna keep away from troubles.. :D
[05:00] <imbrandon> KuLover, i have a logitec one ( not usb ) that works great
[05:01] <winbond> imbrandon: how can i do that if i only have 2 harddrives?
[05:01] <imbrandon> barros yea that would be the better solution
[05:01] <barros_> imbrandon: thanks!!
[05:01] <KuLover> imbrandon, do you have problems playing music or other sounds wile using it?
[05:01] <imbrandon> winbond, do software raid and dont use the whole first drive ;)
[05:01] <imbrandon> KuLover, nope
[05:02] <imbrandon> winbond, or stick a nother small ide drive laying arroundin there
[05:02] <james_xxx> streaming video really sucks still in linux
[05:02] <KuLover> imbrandon, have you ever heard of such a thing? it seems when im voicing with skype, i cant play music
[05:02] <KuLover> and vise versa
[05:02] <winbond> imbrandon: software raid on 1 drive ? sounds pointless, i want a raid0 with 2 harddrives
[05:02] <imbrandon> james_xxx, depends on hardware and codecs and such i love my streaming meadia server ;)
[05:02] <imbrandon> winbond, no software raid with 2 drives just ....
[05:03] <james_xxx> imbrandon: i guess i don't know what i have done wrong, but it does not work for me half of the time
[05:03] <imbrandon> ok winbond when you setup the partitions set /boot and swap to like 1 gig each on the first hdd then set the rest raid and the whole second drive raid
[05:03] <imbrandon> thten create a md0 raid device
[05:04] <imbrandon> james_xxx, what kinda of streams and where from and what codecs do you have installed , what bandwidth , a TON of stuff influnces vid streams
[05:05] <winbond> imbrandon: how can i manually install grub to /boot then grub installs only at the end of the whole setup without giving a choice where to install it
[05:05] <imbrandon> no no you install grub to the same device /boot is on the first hdd
[05:05] <svivian> imbrandon: Something is broken in the display manager. With kcontrol running from a terminal window, I can see the calls the application is making, and I keep seeing KeyError and "list index out of range"
[05:05] <imbrandon> as long as you put /boot on the first hdd you will be fine
[05:06] <james_xxx> imbrandon: i have cable internet, i have all the codecs from automatix, and i have problems with a lot of streams
[05:06] <imbrandon> svivian, ok exit out of everything and just do it the old fashion way IE "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from konsole, forget kcontrol for now
[05:07] <Official_C> this is a stupid question but, in a strictly console Unix environment, how do you see graphical applications?
[05:07] <winbond> imbrandon: what if i only leave /boot as a non raided partition , will that work?
[05:08] <svivian> imbrandon: ok, do I need to bail from KDE completely, or can I run that from terminal, and what am I getting myself into?
[05:09] <imbrandon> run that from term is fine
[05:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> svivian: That command reconfigures X.
[05:09] <imbrandon> just restart kde when done
[05:09] <svivian> imbrandon: thx
[05:09] <imbrandon> winbond, yes should
[05:09] <svivian> CheeseBurgerMan: thx
[05:09] <Official_C> was that too stupid of a question to answer?
[05:09] <svivian> bee back soon
[05:10] <imbrandon> Official_C, sorry i missed the question
[05:10] <imbrandon> what was it ?
[05:11] <winbond> imbrandon: ok , thank you
[05:11] <imbrandon> np
[05:11] <imbrandon> Official_C, looks like you need to install an x server
[05:11] <imbrandon> is your anwser
[05:11] <imbrandon> hard to tell without more details
[05:13] <imbrandon> !ping
[05:13] <ubotu> pong
[05:13] <imbrandon> hrm quieted down fast ;)
[05:14] <imbrandon> soooo hows it going CheeseBurgerMan
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm fine. Just looking at cool Drupal modules.
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> You?
[05:14] <imbrandon> nadda, got wrapped up helping like 30 ppl at one time yet again ;)
[05:14] <imbrandon> time to do some compiles now
[05:14] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, so I saw. ;)
[05:15] <imbrandon> heh my whole log is red from imbrandon everywhere
[05:15] <imbrandon> lol
[05:15] <imbrandon> brb
[05:23] <Hobbsee> !tell lnxKDE about packagingguide
[05:23] <Hobbsee> hey DaSkreech
[05:24] <DaSkreech> hiya
[05:26] <CaBlGuY> HOwdy Hobbsee  o/
[05:27] <CaBlGuY> jerwin:  u in Colorado by chance?
[05:27] <jerwin> a'yuh
[05:27] <jerwin> cablguy... must be don
[05:27] <jerwin> :-)
[05:27] <CaBlGuY> ummmm  is that a yes then ..  :)
[05:27] <jerwin> yes
[05:28] <CaBlGuY> cool, what can u tell me about it, I'm lookin to move there soon..
[05:28] <jerwin> Been here my whole life.  Not a bad place to live.
[05:28] <CaBlGuY> cool..  PM
[05:29] <LiteHedded> imbrandon still here?
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> I need to know his trick on getting the Kmenu to look like the XP Start..
[05:30] <CaBlGuY> Jack_Sparrow:  why on earth would u want that???  :-O
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Just for fun..
[05:30] <CaBlGuY> Oh, to fake peeeps out huh??  :p
[05:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jack_Sparrow: KBFX
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Yep.
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> So I need to search for KBFX?
[05:31] <imbrandon> Jack_Sparrow, mine ?
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jack_Sparrow: http://kbfx.org ;)
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Ahhhh
[05:31] <imbrandon> http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/theme/royale/
[05:32] <imbrandon> CheeseBurgerMan, i have all the graphics and such on my page that he's looking for too ;)
[05:32] <imbrandon> plus kbfx and the kwin deco
[05:32] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:33] <winbond> what dir is the repo list in ?
[05:33] <Hobbsee> hey CaBlGuY
[05:33] <imbrandon>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:33] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee
[05:33] <imbrandon> dident see ya sneek in
[05:33] <winbond> ok , ty , brainfart
[05:33] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:34] <Hobbsee> heya
[05:39] <Tofumanchu> anybody know if there is a place I can monitor Ubuntu checkins?  There's an ACPI fix that I just gotta have ...
[05:43] <Hobbsee> Tofumanchu: lists.ubuntu.com - the dapper changes one?
[05:44] <Hobbsee> or launchpad
[05:44] <Tofumanchu> well, I've got the launchpad bug #, but no way to associate that to a commit of some sort.
[05:44] <Hobbsee> what bug number?
[05:44] <Tofumanchu> #39315:
[05:48] <ChefWill> does anyone know if i install the kubuntu desktop package from ubuntu if itwill uninstall firefox/other programs?
[05:49] <DaSkreech> It wont
[05:49] <yylex> ChefWill: no.
[05:49] <ChefWill> im thinking about switching to KDE
[05:50] <Hobbsee> Tofumanchu: looking.  and it's nto easy to understand
[05:51] <Tofumanchu> thx!
[05:51] <RawSewage> Kubuntu has FF
[05:51] <ChefWill> i know that, i dint know if itd mess it up
[05:51] <RawSewage> I use Konqueror though
[05:52] <Lunar_Raven> kde > gnome
[05:52] <Lunar_Raven> :)
[05:52] <Hobbsee> RawSewage: not unless you insatll it.
[05:52] <Lunar_Raven> I've been using konqeuror too, pretty good browser minus a few issues
[05:52] <RawSewage> I didnt install FF
[05:53] <RawSewage> and it came with the installation
[05:53] <RawSewage> Im almost positive
[05:53] <Lunar_Raven> firefox comes with kubuntu
[05:53] <Lunar_Raven> i think..
[05:53] <Lunar_Raven> herm, maybe not actually
[05:53] <Tofumanchu> I had to apt-get ff
[05:53] <RawSewage> I didnt
[05:53] <Tofumanchu> with a fresh dapper install
[05:53] <Lunar_Raven> Yeah I remember, I used automatix for ff
[05:53] <RawSewage> so did I
[05:53] <Hobbsee> Tofumanchu: it looks like it's been put in...i think
[05:53] <Hobbsee> still trying to figure if it has or not
[05:54] <RawSewage> Automatix for FF is old school
[05:54] <Tofumanchu> hehe, I haven't seen the kernel-modules package in my update list...
[05:54] <Lunar_Raven> either way you can just download the package from the firefox website and untar it
[05:54] <RawSewage> why would you do that
[05:54] <Lunar_Raven> or apt-get of course
[05:54] <Lunar_Raven> if you're too lazy to bother with repos
[05:54] <Lunar_Raven> :D
[05:54] <imbrandon> sudo apt-get install firefox  will install 1.5.0.4 ;)
[05:55] <Tofumanchu> doit ChefWill
[05:55] <nixternal> do it ChefWill...it is a much better experience :)
[05:55] <Lunar_Raven> kde is my favorite desktop
[05:55] <Lunar_Raven> ever
[05:55] <imbrandon> kde ftw ;)
[05:55] <RawSewage> ok, Linus
[05:55] <ChefWill> i can do it thru commandline cant i?
[05:55] <RawSewage> Mark Shuttleworth uses Kubuntu
[05:55] <imbrandon> ChefWill, yes
[05:56] <Hobbsee> Tofumanchu: you could probably contact him - there are changes, but i cant see that exact bug in the changelog - but i'm not sure if they actually ptu them in
[05:56] <Hobbsee> if it's marked as fix released, itshould be there
[05:56] <ChefWill> its installing ;x
[05:56] <Lunar_Raven> ubuntu makes it simple to install kde
[05:56] <Kyral> RawSewage: I fail to see the point :P
[05:56] <ChefWill> 400MB, wow
[05:56] <ChefWill> there goes my hdd space
[05:56] <Lunar_Raven> haha
[05:56] <RawSewage> you fail to see the point that the founder of Ubuntu uses Kubuntu?
[05:56] <Kyral> Granted I use KDE but you make it seem like a big deal lol
[05:56] <ChefWill> :P
[05:56] <Lunar_Raven> its big
[05:56] <Tofumanchu> Great...  Thanks for all the help Hobbsee!
[05:56] <Kyral> RawSewage: I fail to see the place where I am supposed to give a damn
[05:56] <Lunar_Raven> I thought everyone used kde o.O
[05:56] <RawSewage> said the Gnome user
[05:57] <Kyral> *twitch*
[05:57] <RawSewage> lol
[05:57] <Kyral> Hobbsee: can I teach him something?
[05:57] <Kyral> Sysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.16-beyond running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2100+ at 1734 MHz (3470 bogomips), HD: 245/432GB, RAM: 783/1011MB, 85 proc's, 6.23d up
[05:57] <Kyral> Qt: 3.3.6
[05:57] <Kyral> KDE: 3.5.3
[05:57] <Kyral> kde-config: 1.0
[05:57] <RawSewage> what
[05:57] <Kyral> Said the Arch User and package maintainer
[05:57] <Kyral> :D
[05:57] <RawSewage> oh
[05:57] <Lunar_Raven> I tried gnome awhile back
[05:57] <Lunar_Raven> it's too simplistic
[05:57] <Hobbsee> Kyral: nice, hehe
[05:57] <RawSewage> so youd know if FF comes with Kubuntu or not
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> and there's like..no way to configure it
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> Lunar_Raven:  EXACTLY..
[05:58] <Hobbsee> RawSewage: yes, and it doesnt.
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> not like kde
[05:58] <Kyral> I don't use Ubuntu any longer
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> :p
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> kde has options for everything
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> :P
[05:58] <Kyral> nor Kubuntu or Xubuntu for that matter
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> Simple is goooooddd
[05:58] <RawSewage> I couldve sworn I didnt install FF
[05:58] <CaBlGuY> :)
[05:58] <RawSewage> Im telling you
[05:58] <RawSewage> I use konqueror, so why do I have FF
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[05:58] <RawSewage> Fresh install
[05:58] <Kyral> and again, I fail to see the point that I am supposed to care what sabdfl or Linus uses as a WM
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> I like konqueror now
[05:58] <Lunar_Raven> I just wish gmail supported it better
[05:59] <RawSewage> I guess FF was a dependency of something else I installed
[05:59] <Kyral> On my laptop Fluxbox is the WM of choice
[05:59] <ChefWill> forward gmail to your pop account
[05:59] <ChefWill> aw man, evolution isnt going to work now is it
[05:59] <Lunar_Raven> good point
[05:59] <RawSewage> speaking of email, how many emails do I have to train before the spam filter catches even 1
[05:59] <Lunar_Raven> kmail is good
[05:59] <Kyral> on my Hurd machine...well I don't run X lol
[05:59] <Lunar_Raven> atleast from what i've seen
[05:59] <Lunar_Raven> it may lack compared to evolution though
[05:59] <ChefWill> i have all my mail setup thru evolution
[05:59] <Lunar_Raven> it should work in kde fine though
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> gtk apps work fine in kde
[06:00] <ChefWill> it wont be integrated though
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> integrate how?
[06:00] <Kyral> ChefWill: gtk2-engines-qt or whatnot
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> yeah
[06:00] <ChefWill> ?
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> it'll blend with qt nicely
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> gtk-qt draws gtk apps I guess, so they look like qt
[06:00] <Lunar_Raven> I may have explained that crappy, but yeah..it makes gtk integrate nice
[06:01] <RawSewage> speaking of email, how many emails do I have to train before the spam filter catches even 1
[06:03] <ChefWill> maybe kbear will work better now that its running on its native desktop ;/
[06:05] <regeya> wow,  someone said 'my Hurd machine'
[06:05] <ChefWill> kubuntu-desktop finished installing, just restart or?
[06:09] <RawSewage> I should try xDE
[06:12] <Hawkwind> Hey, a fellow Houstonian running Kubuntu :)
[06:12] <kelly_> hey
[06:12] <Hawkwind> What part of Houston ?
[06:12] <kelly_> wow this is cool
[06:12] <kelly_> southwest
[06:13] <Hawkwind> Ah ok.  I'm in Katy myself
[06:13] <kelly_> sugarland sorry
[06:13] <Hawkwind> Ahhh, I used to live and work in Sugarland.  Opened up the Lowe's there actually
[06:14] <LiteHedded> i just upgraded and I can't start x
[06:14] <LiteHedded> er kde
[06:15] <kelly_> trying to get my sound card working
[06:15] <Mitja> The Win key is suddenly not recognized anymore? How can I fix this?
[06:15] <crimsun_> kelly_: hold old/new is the computer?
[06:15] <crimsun_> kelly_: s/hold/how/
[06:16] <kelly_> sony vaio 5 year old trial and error computer
[06:16] <crimsun_> kelly_: cpu?
[06:16] <kelly_> p4
[06:16] <crimsun_> that's five years old? sheesh, I must be ancient.
[06:16] <Hawkwind> LOL crimsun_
[06:16] <Hawkwind> crimsun_: I was sitting here thinking the same thing
[06:17] <crimsun_> anyhow, pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[06:17] <Hawkwind> I just didn't want to be the first to admit I was suddenly feeling really really old
[06:17] <crimsun_> kelly_: I presume you know about pastebin?
[06:17] <LiteHedded> can anyone help me get into kde?
[06:17] <LiteHedded> these big terminal characters are scaring me
[06:18] <ChefWill> i just installed kubuntu-desktop and restarted its still in gnome ;/
[06:18] <ChefWill> all the kde apps are there but no intefface
[06:18] <ChefWill> what am i missing?
[06:19] <francf> CherWill: in the display manager must be an option to chose GNOME or KDE
[06:19] <RawSewage> I think you have to change bootup options
[06:19] <francf> By default use the last option, in your case Gnome
[06:20] <ChefWill> where though?
[06:20] <RawSewage> in kcontrol
[06:20] <RawSewage> system admin- login control
[06:20] <RawSewage> no, maybe not
[06:21] <francf> CherWill: when you login on the computer, exist an option to select the DE
[06:21] <ChefWill> nope
[06:21] <ChefWill> not that i saw
[06:22] <francf> in Session, i think...
[06:22] <crimsun_> well, I guess kelly_ really didn't want assistance.
[06:22] <ChefWill> im in kcontrol havent found an option to choose kde/gnome
[06:23] <RawSewage> that was rude
[06:23] <francf> nop, is not in kcontrol. Just Logout. Look at "Session" and choose KDE
[06:23] <ChefWill> alright let me look
[06:24] <Tomze> purge gdm -> install kdm
[06:25] <Mitja> Where can a key modifier be added?
[06:25] <francf> Mitja:key modifier? did u mean for multimedia keys?
[06:26] <ChefWill> hrm works now
[06:26] <ChefWill> thanks whoever told me
[06:26] <Mitja> francf, I mean alt, ctrl, win...
[06:26] <francf> no problem, man.
[06:26] <Tomze> ChefWill: purge gdm -> install kdm
[06:26] <ChefWill> ?
[06:28] <francf> Mitja: Look at "System Preferences->Region and accesabiltiy.
[06:29] <Tomze> ChefWill: gdm = gnome display manager works bad with kde... and the same for kdm if you use gnome
[06:29] <Mitja> francf, already did, what specifically?
[06:29] <ChefWill> i got it working
[06:29] <ChefWill> is there no kde frontend for network-manager?
[06:29] <Tomze> ChefWill: the try to shut down your pc ;)
[06:29] <francf> Mitja: In the second option
[06:29] <ChefWill> Tomze: i already got it working
[06:30] <francf> Cheffwill: yep, knetwormanager
[06:30] <Tomze> so you say.. he
[06:30] <Mitja> francf, Country Region / Language?
[06:30] <ChefWill> aggh why do they have to name it like that
[06:30] <francf> sorry, Knetworkmanager
[06:30] <ChefWill> they name everytihng else network-manager
[06:30] <ChefWill> thats why i couldnt find it
[06:31] <francf> Mitja: In Shortcuts... (i think, my distro is in spanish, so i'm guess the translation)
[06:31] <Mitja> Yes, looking right now
[06:33] <francf> CheffWill:  :)   In general, the KDE applications start with a "K".
[06:42] <RawSewage> Kool
[06:45] <ChefWill> so what is the most powerful mail app for kde?
[06:45] <ChefWill> i use to use evolution..
[06:45] <Hobbsee> kmail, i tend to use thunderbird
[06:46] <ChefWill> hrm, will kmail import my evolution stuff
[06:46] <Hobbsee> i think so
[06:46] <kkathman> if you want pure kde - Kmail/kontact
[06:46] <Hobbsee> it imported thunderbird stuff
[06:46] <ChefWill> hrm
[06:47] <kkathman> ChefWill:  probably kontact will be more analagous to evolution...as its a suite...thunderbird is just mail..but its a decent client
[06:48] <francf> Chefwill: yes and no. You can import, but u need do by hand.
[06:48] <kkathman> so if you want all the other things like newsfeeds, contacts, address book (like evolution), then kontact will seem more familiar
[06:49] <ChefWill> yea imma just redo it
[06:49] <ChefWill> i cant find a way to import
[06:52] <LiteHedded> just upgraded how do I install ati again?
[06:52] <kkathman> ChefWill:  Kontact/Kmail will import evolution files I think
[06:52] <LiteHedded> !ati
[06:52] <ubotu> well, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[06:52] <ChefWill> i dont see where kkathman, ive looked
[06:52] <kkathman> ChefWill:  Under Kontact, File-Import Messages
[06:53] <ChefWill> well, its not hte messages, its more the accounts
[06:53] <kkathman> well the accounts are easy to setup
[06:53] <kkathman> its you mail you want I think
[06:53] <kkathman> the copy I have imports v1 and v2 of evolution
[06:54] <Mitja> Can somebody help me please? Some of the keys suddenly stopped working. Locale layout setting is not recognized at all. It all worked after installation. Now I don't know what I did to make it stop working. Any clues?
[06:54] <ChefWill> yea i got mail
[06:54] <ChefWill> i just had like 10 accounts in evo :P
[06:54] <RawSewage> speaking of email, how many emails do I have to train before the spam filter catches even 1
[06:55] <ChefWill> its a pain in the butt to do all of em
[06:55] <kkathman> RawSewage: well, are you using the bogofilter?
[06:55] <RawSewage> yes
[06:55] <francf> ups, my coffee is over.
[06:55] <RawSewage> right-click messages:  apply filter...  Filter Classify as Spam
[06:55] <RawSewage> right?
[06:56] <kkathman> RawSewage:  you are using kmail?
[06:56] <RawSewage> yes
[06:56] <kkathman> so I'd set your filters first
[06:56] <kkathman> try and catch a bunch
[06:56] <kkathman> as it gets more, it will learn
[06:56] <RawSewage> Im using  Filter Classify as Spam
[06:57] <kkathman> that helps too
[06:57] <RawSewage> if  Filter Classify as Spam  Bogofilter?
[06:57] <Mitja> Is there a way to reinstall the keyboard part of KDE?
[06:57] <RawSewage> I did the wizard, and Bogofilter was the only one listed
[06:58] <kkathman> RawSewage:  yep you can get a few others, but I've found Bogo does a decent job
[06:58] <RawSewage> ok
[06:58] <RawSewage> I guess it takes a long time
[06:58] <kkathman> it takes a while
[06:58] <RawSewage> I get a lot of spam though
[06:58] <kkathman> but, again...define your own Filters also, and that will help too
[06:59] <RawSewage> I dont want to
[06:59] <kkathman> ok
[06:59] <RawSewage> I want to see what Bogofilter does by itself
[06:59] <LiteHedded> ati install didn't work
[06:59] <RawSewage> an AI experiment
[06:59] <LiteHedded> can someone help?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Mitja: I'd love to help
[07:03] <Mitja> DaSkreech, sweet dreams
[07:03] <DaSkreech> If You are here tomorrow I'll try and be of assistance
[07:03] <Mitja> I'll just reinstall a few things
[07:03] <kkathman> cya DaSkreech :)
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Night all :)
[07:04] <sean> I've recently run into a problem of my computer randomly rebooting, and I'd like to try to track down the problem (likely hardware related)
[07:05] <sean> myself
[07:05] <Mitja> DaSkreech, night
[07:05] <sean> Does anyone know of what log files too look at that may help me?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Sean: dmesg :)
[07:08] <LiteHedded> ati help anyone?
[07:10] <sean> LiteHedded Possibly, with what?
[07:10] <sean> wait, offering or asking?
[07:11] <LiteHedded> upgraded to dapper
[07:12] <LiteHedded> installed kubuntu-desktop
[07:12] <LiteHedded> installed ati and it doesn't work
[07:12] <RawSewage> can you do a fresh install
[07:14] <LiteHedded> asking sean :)
[07:14] <Rede> is there a way I can devote more system resources to a process? ie. i have a high quality video that occaisonally stutters as im trying to watch it and i'd like to devote more resources to kaffeine...
[07:14] <DShepherd> hi DaSkreech, Riddell and imbrandon from freenode :-D
[07:15] <DaSkreech> haha! :)
[07:15] <DaSkreech> lnxKDE: Get him!!
[07:15] <imbrandon> lol
[07:15] <DShepherd> get who... let me at him
[07:16] <LiteHedded> imbrandon too busy to help one more time? :P
[07:16] <LiteHedded> ati issues this time
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Well let me go and kick the dogs into their bed then I can go to mine
[07:17] <yoshu> can anyone suggest a good (secure) mail server? - I'm looking at exim and sendmail right now
[07:18] <lnxKDE> DShepherd what me to say hi to you too?
[07:18] <lnxKDE> want*
[07:18] <romeo5k|afk> hello all
[07:18] <DShepherd> lnxKDE: ok..
[07:18] <lnxKDE> ok
[07:18] <lnxKDE> lol
[07:19] <ChefWill> anyone know how to disable the "Description" section after messages in kmail?
[07:19] <DShepherd> DShepherd: I need to start saying hi more often. It seems that it can get you places
[07:19] <Romeo5k> i need a lil help from someone if possible...
[07:19] <Romeo5k> im kinda of a new guy to linux .,.. i am a windows guy
[07:20] <Romeo5k> and wanna try linux.. so i got Kubuntu...
[07:20] <Romeo5k> and installed it on my HDD.. but me and a friend are facing a prob.. it wont let me conenct to the internet. because i dont think it can find my driver
[07:21] <ChefWill> wifi Romeo5k?
[07:21] <Romeo5k> and it wont let me install the driver either.. it gave us an error while trying to install the driver.. .. No thru LAN
[07:21] <LiteHedded> i've come too far for ati to beat me now@
[07:21] <Romeo5k> straight wire...
[07:22] <Romeo5k> My Router lan light is not coming on.. so im having a feeling its not reading it... it did that with windows.. its an onboard
[07:22] <Romeo5k> and i have the linus driver for it..
[07:22] <Romeo5k> I have the
[07:22] <Romeo5k> Mainboard: A8N-VM CSM
[07:22] <Romeo5k> thats what i have... and... am i allowed to paste the error in here
[07:23] <kkathman> !paste
[07:23] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[07:23] <LiteHedded> !ati
[07:23] <ubotu> I heard ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:24] <Romeo5k> also.. this is what my friend said...
[07:24] <Romeo5k> install the correct kernel source
[07:24] <Romeo5k> he said he tried but couldnt...
[07:25] <Romeo5k> he said maybe its different on my 64 bit... cause he didnt have to on his 32bit. since mine is a 100/1000
[07:26] <Romeo5k> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15633
[07:26] <Romeo5k> thats the error i was getting
[07:27] <kkathman> redhat?
[07:27] <LiteHedded> anyone care to help me with ati yet?
[07:27] <Romeo5k> no ... Kubuntu
[07:28] <Hobbsee> !ati
[07:28] <ubotu> well, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:28] <noaXess> how to extract a windows exe file?..
[07:28] <LiteHedded> a bit more help than that is needed Hobbsee :)
[07:28] <noaXess> it is a windows selfextracting exe file
[07:29] <kkathman> but thats all there is Hobbsee :)
[07:29] <kkathman> lol
[07:29] <Romeo5k> kkathman why u ask about redhat??
[07:30] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  cuz your error message references it
[07:30] <Hobbsee> kkathman: i have an intel integrated card, so never have to mess with any of it :P
[07:30] <Romeo5k> kkathman but i dont know why...
[07:30] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  you never were like all the other girls
[07:30] <noaXess> !exe
[07:30] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noaXess
[07:30] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  uhm  I dont either
[07:30] <Hobbsee> kkathman: of course - why would i be here, if i was
[07:31] <kkathman> well ya.. uhmm I guess
[07:31] <Romeo5k> kkathman ok ... can u tell me how to "install the correct kernel source"?
[07:32] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  why do you want another kernel source?
[07:32] <Hobbsee> :P
[07:32] <Romeo5k> kkathman I tried to do that the other day and couldn't get the correct kernel source
[07:33] <Romeo5k> kkathman and i think thats whats causing the error
[07:33] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  try the wiki, and start here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelSourceDriver?highlight=%28source%29%7C%28kernel%29
[07:34] <RawSewage> oh well, so much for Python
[07:34] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  are you trying to compile your own kernel for kubuntu?
[07:34] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  another good launching point:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowTos?highlight=%28kernel%29
[07:35] <Romeo5k> kkathman what does that mean.. remember im a noob... im just trying to install a driver for the network catd
[07:35] <Romeo5k> kkathman its a NVIDIA
[07:35] <kkathman> lol
[07:35] <kkathman> well thats not good news actually
[07:35] <Romeo5k> but the cd i have has linux drivers
[07:35] <kkathman> let me save you ALOT of headaches
[07:36] <Romeo5k> so i dont have to use .exe
[07:36] <kkathman> go get a regular $8 NIC card that doesnt need a driver :)
[07:36] <kkathman> hehe
[07:36] <kkathman> NVDIA network cards are notorious for not working well...even with their drivers in linux
[07:37] <Romeo5k> oh yea???
[07:37] <kkathman> yah
[07:37] <Romeo5k> dam..
[07:37] <kkathman> I mean the trouble you'll go to....better to just get a cheap NIC card :)
[07:37] <Romeo5k> well i cant get mad...
[07:37] <Romeo5k> this means i need to buy another 100/1000 card
[07:37] <kkathman> you are about the 10th person that has had this problem with NVIDIA NIC cards
[07:37] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  yah but they are really cheap
[07:38] <kkathman> I saw a 3Com for like $5 the other day
[07:38] <kkathman> you plug it in...it works
[07:40] <Romeo5k> dangit
[07:40] <Romeo5k> hold
[07:40] <Romeo5k> ok
[07:42] <Romeo5k> ChefWill u stay in houston?
[07:42] <ChefWill> yea
[07:42] <Romeo5k> ChefWill nicce me too
[07:42] <ChefWill> cool, what part
[07:42] <Romeo5k> galleria area
[07:42] <ChefWill> ah
[07:42] <Romeo5k> u?
[07:42] <ChefWill> I'm in westgate/katy area
[07:43] <Romeo5k> nice..not too far, about 30 mins without traffic
[07:43] <Romeo5k> :)
[07:43] <ChefWill> approximately
[07:43] <ChefWill> i drive past it everyday to class
[07:44] <Romeo5k> where u go to sxhool?
[07:44] <ChefWill> HCC Culinary
[07:44] <Romeo5k> hahaah
[07:44] <ChefWill> at Main/Elgin
[07:44] <Romeo5k> i worj there
[07:44] <Romeo5k> work***
[07:44] <ChefWill> where
[07:44] <Romeo5k> 11th flr
[07:45] <ChefWill> cool
[07:45] <Romeo5k> sexretary to associate Vice chancellor
[07:45] <ChefWill> ill be there in 6 hours :S
[07:45] <Romeo5k> dam
[07:45] <Romeo5k> no sleep
[07:45] <ChefWill> not much
[07:46] <Romeo5k> i prolly seen u there b4 then
[07:46] <ChefWill> probably
[07:46] <Romeo5k> i eat there sometimes
[07:46] <Romeo5k> when i can afford it :(
[07:46] <Romeo5k> yall too ruch for me
[07:46] <Romeo5k> rich**
[07:46] <ChefWill> idk, i get it free
[07:47] <Romeo5k> lol
[07:47] <Romeo5k> dats a bet
[07:49] <Romeo5k> kkathman am i ok using the 64 bit Kubuntu? or should i have settled for the 32 bit??
[07:50] <Romeo5k> kkathman cause i heard they are kinda different
[07:50] <kkathman> well, there are always going to be little buggies in the 64bit version, but I'd use it if I had the processor
[07:50] <kkathman> nalioth or Hobbsee know much more about the 64-bit kubuntu
[07:50] <Romeo5k> oh yeah?
[07:50] <Romeo5k> hmmm
[07:51] <Romeo5k> lol
[07:51] <Romeo5k> i wont bug u
[07:52] <sean> I've personally had more trouble using 32bit versions on my 64bit processor than with the 64 bit verstion
[07:53] <sean> only version doesn't have a t
[07:53] <sean> but if it did, y'know, it'd be cooler
[07:54] <Romeo5k> anything is better than what im using right now
[07:54] <sean> aside from the lack of flash, and the extra work with wine (which I never really use) I've had no troubles
[07:54] <sean> well, I mean, aside from the recent troubles with random restarts, but I don't think that's a 64-bit sympton
[07:55] <sean> ...cas...
[07:55] <Romeo5k> ive tried 3 OS within the past week... i havnt had to restart yet...
[07:55] <Romeo5k> kkathman the bad thing is... the LAN was werking yesterday
[07:55] <Romeo5k> untill i updatd my bios
[07:56] <sean> umm, don't worry, it's not a "have to" so much as a does without permission.  But again, probably not OS related
[07:56] <Romeo5k> then i lost me LAN
[07:56] <kkathman> Romeo5k:  I know
[07:56] <kkathman> that seems to be a very consistent complaint with that card
[07:57] <Romeo5k> i might take it to the IT ppl at my job and see what they can do..
[07:57] <Romeo5k> see if they know anything... abot Kubuntu that is.
[07:58] <kkathman> frb  kewl
[07:59] <kkathman> sry wrong channel :)
[08:16] <Mitja> Does anyone have any experience with Opera? Flash plugins work, but keep getting "de-installed". So whenever I start Opera I have to define them again. Any clues?
[08:17] <crimsun_> opera 9 beta 2 works fine here
[08:17] <defrysk> here too
[08:17] <defrysk> never use it tho ;p
[08:18] <Mitja> I use 9 beta 2 too
[08:18] <defrysk> Mitja, flash should work fine then
[08:18] <Mitja> defrysk, it does. Every time  I redefine the paths.
[08:18] <defrysk> Mitja, sorry
[08:18] <defrysk> honestly have no solution
[08:19] <defrysk> Mitja, did you install the flash package of ubuntu ?
[08:20] <Mitja> defrysk, yes, and it works in Konqueror
[08:20] <darkfusion> hello
[08:20] <defrysk> Mitja, you could try the flash package of macromedia and install for opera usage only
[08:20] <darkfusion> anybody here wanna help me try and get samba working ? I cant seem to view the drive in windows
[08:20] <defrysk> like a local install or something
[08:22] <defrysk> http://www.linux.com/ gives an empty page in konqueror anyone else too ?
[08:23] <sean> defrysk - ditto
[08:23] <defrysk> anyone know why or is it a feature ?
[08:23] <sean> wait, strike that, just didn't wait long enough
[08:24] <sean> Although I'm running konqueror on ubuntu, and not kubuntu at the moment
[08:24] <sean> odd...
[08:25] <sean> * thinks that's strange
[08:25] <sean> wait, that's not how that works...
[08:25] <sean> I never did learn how to use IRC
[08:26] <bimberi> sean: "/me thinks that's strange"  :)
[08:27] <sean> thank you
[08:27] <bimberi> :)
[08:27] <bimberi> np
[08:27] <defrysk> no I have vision
[08:27] <defrysk> weird
[08:27] <PyroMithrandir> defrysk, www.linux.com works fine in konqueror for me
[08:27] <sean> as, adis
[08:27] <defrysk> does not render correctly here
[08:28] <defrysk> must be a 3.5.3 bug
[08:28] <PyroMithrandir> is your konq up to date?
[08:28] <PyroMithrandir> nah, I'm on that
[08:29] <defrysk> I see nuthing in konq in linux.com , page up and back I see a poorly rendered page of linux.com :/
[08:30] <PyroMithrandir> :/ I don't know what it is
[08:30] <weedar> Is there a FIPS-like program that runs under linux or that possibly even has a GUI for splitting partitions? :)
[08:30] <PyroMithrandir> FIPS?
[08:32] <weedar> PyroMithrandir: My father has a big VFAT partition, he wants to split off the end of the partition to create a new one while keeping the first part of the partition in tact without having to format it :)
[08:32] <PyroMithrandir> I think gparted can resize partitions
[08:32] <PyroMithrandir> I've never used it... I'm an fdisk man myself
[08:34] <defrysk> weedar, gparted is your best bet
[08:35] <weedar> Thanks for the thumbs-up defrysk and PyroMithrandir - I'll pass the message along :)
[08:37] <PyroMithrandir> where's there a Mithrandir?
[08:37] <PyroMithrandir> It's not me
[08:37] <insanekane> weedar: you might want to use partition magic though ... much more reliable
[08:38] <weedar> insanekane: you mean the windows program partition magic? I hope not, last time I used that it thoroughly trashed my hard-drive :/
[08:39] <insanekane> weedar: there is a windows live cd/rescue CD somewhere ... it uses PM and it works very well
[08:39] <insanekane> weedar: anyway, when you run the kubuntu installer (i.e., alternate CD atleast), the partitioning screen allows you to resize ... it works so far for FAT32 for me ... havent tried NTFS
[08:41] <thelostbyte_> How to install gstream for amarok ?
[08:41] <weedar> Oh its VFAT/FAT32 so it should be ok insanekane :)
[08:42] <th0m4s> Installing Kubuntu 6.06 DVD onto a Sony Vaio VGN-T250P right now, is there a way to have it install make during install or will I have to wait until it's fully loaded for that?
[08:43] <th0m4s> As well, last time I could only get 1024x768, 1024x600, and 800x600, but no 1280x768 despite editing the correct files
[08:45] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, amarok uses the xine engine
[08:45] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, not gstreamer
[08:46] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, that is if you want mp3 support
[08:47] <thelostbyte_> defrysk, huh ? amarok is an mp3 player, thats how i know it :S
[08:48] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, amarok is an mp3 player if it has that support
[08:48] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, on dapper ?
[08:49] <thelostbyte_> defrysk, ok ! i want mp3 support..
[08:49] <insanekane> th0m4s: once you are finished installing ... just do "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ... that should install pretty much all you need
[08:49] <weedar> th0m4s: after install you might want to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to setup resolutions
[08:49] <PyroMithrandir> !mp3
[08:49] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:50] <thelostbyte_> i am there and i installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[08:51] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, sudo apt-get install amarok-engines
[08:51] <thelostbyte_> done that..
[08:51] <PyroMithrandir> try using the xine engine instead
[08:51] <thelostbyte_> but no gstream in enigines..
[08:51] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, u have to set it to xine
[08:51] <thelostbyte_> PyroMithrandir, xine gives me no sound //
[08:52] <PyroMithrandir> weird
[08:52] <PyroMithrandir> maybe that's a common problem?
[08:52] <PyroMithrandir> !xine
[08:52] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PyroMithrandir
[08:52] <PyroMithrandir> I don't know. I'm tired. I'm calling it a night
[08:52] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, read this first : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f06eb8f6a8cbb1ed38dd019b7dde9f0f7bb26160
[08:52] <TheTourist> Hey all, Im having a strange problem with Adept. Basically it keeps saying its already open. Even when I restart. So yeah it only opens in read only mode.
[08:53] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, it tell you to also install libarts1-xine.
[08:53] <PyroMithrandir> TheTourist, you tried running a killall adept to make sure it isn't running
[08:53] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, sudo apt-get install libarts1-xine.
[08:53] <TheTourist> I've checked and cant find the process open either
[08:54] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[08:54] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, those two packages should do the trick ;)
[08:54] <PyroMithrandir> TheTourist, you're running it with root privs right? with kdesu?
[08:54] <Romeo5k> gn ppl
[08:54] <TheTourist> yep
[08:54] <thelostbyte_> ok.. doing it.
[08:54] <TheTourist> thats right, the window comes up and i enter my root pword
[08:55] <TheTourist> apt  is working from the command line tho and its not locked
[08:55] <PyroMithrandir> arg, you stole my next question right out from under me, TheTourist
[08:55] <defrysk> TheTourist, root pw in kdesu is your username pw
[08:56] <TheTourist> I just rememberd tho that I did have the problem with Java in adept
[08:56] <defrysk> so make sure to use the correct pw TheTourist
[08:56] <TheTourist> maybe something is corrupted?
[08:56] <TheTourist> ok Ill give it a go
[08:56] <thelostbyte_> defrysk, you mean i can play video too in amarok  ?
[08:56] <defrysk> th0m4s, video ?
[08:56] <PyroMithrandir> you can play video with xine
[08:56] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, I mean ?
[08:57] <defrysk> xine mplayer etc
[08:57] <defrysk> xine soundengine is used thelostbyte_
[08:57] <PyroMithrandir> well, yeah, but xine is the engine that amarok uses, so I guess that's where the confusion comes in
[08:57] <defrysk> not the video stuff
[08:57] <thelostbyte_> defrysk, cause my default there is no mp3 support..so xine supports video too.. thats why..
[08:57] <PyroMithrandir> amarok is just audio, though
[08:57] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, nope no video
[08:58] <thelostbyte_> ok
[08:58] <PyroMithrandir> xine will do video, but amarok will be like "pshaw, naw"
[08:58] <thelostbyte_> defrysk, Thanks, it works now :)
[08:58] <defrysk> thelostbyte_, :)
[08:59] <PyroMithrandir> alright, guys, time for me to actually go to bed this time ;)
[08:59] <defrysk> later all
[08:59] <PyroMithrandir> wow, must not be 3 am there ;)
[09:02] <TheTourist> okay, I ended up running dpkg --configure -a and now it starts up properly
[09:03] <TheTourist> Its all workin now tho, to thanks!!
[09:04] <TheTourist> *so thanks :)
[09:10] <apathy```> Im having a bit of trouble installing Kubuntu, once the cd boots up, and try to install through the menu, i get the error:
[09:11] <apathy```> Error #8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC
[09:11] <[fadli_klate] > i ve install dapper 6.06 rc2. what else to upgrade to -lts- release other than 'apt-get upgrade"
[09:11] <apathy```> ive tried boot commands like noapic acpi=off
[09:11] <apathy```> and it just boots into windows rather than starting to install
[09:11] <apathy```> oh yea It says uncompressing first then the error
[09:18] <th0m4s> linux is magic
[09:19] <th0m4s> it somehow guessed my WEP key because i never gave it it
[09:19] <klerfayt> for some odd reason kubuntu installed lilo instead of grub http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/609/snapshot13pq.png
[09:19] <th0m4s> that or it's stealing my neighbors internet
[09:19] <lnxKDE> http://lnxkde.blogspot.com/
[09:19] <th0m4s> haha yep it is my neighbors internet
[09:22] <[fadli_klate] > weird, my lilo in kubuntu
[09:22] <TheHighChild> hey guys, if I wanted to make a perfect ISO image, what app would you suggest?
[09:22] <[fadli_klate] > k3b?
[09:22] <TheHighChild> I'll give it a whirl, thanks
[09:22] <[fadli_klate] > what u`ll use the iso for?
[09:23] <TheHighChild> Don't ask don't tell ;P
[09:23] <TheHighChild> lol, it'll be a bootable disk
[09:23] <noiesmo> throw at peoples :
[09:23] <noiesmo> 0
[09:24] <TheHighChild> You guys know any methods of slipstreaming in Linux?
[09:25] <exceswater> hi all
[09:25] <[fadli_klate] > hi
[09:26] <exceswater> i have a question because i am new to kubuntu
[09:26] <exceswater> :d
[09:26] <exceswater> i typed this in konsole
[09:26] <exceswater> sudo apt-get install planetpenguin-racer flightgear bzflag
[09:26] <exceswater> to install some games...
[09:26] <exceswater> planet penguin racer
[09:26] <exceswater> flightgear
[09:26] <exceswater> and bzflag
[09:26] <exceswater> and it seems like they installed
[09:27] <exceswater> but i cannot find them
[09:27] <exceswater> why ?
[09:28] <th0m4s> because
[09:28] <th0m4s> linux does not love me
[09:28] <[fadli_klate] > cant find it in Kmenu?
[09:28] <[fadli_klate] > may be just type in the console >> bzflag
[09:28] <klerfayt> system settings>system services does not ask for password then I click on "admin mode"
[09:29] <JairunCaloth> I can't use apt
[09:29] <th0m4s> http://imagesocket.com/images/snapshot10c4.png
[09:30] <th0m4s> as you can tell by the resolution of that image, i am most definately not seeing the resolution that i am telling it i can do
[09:30] <th0m4s> of coures by default it will let me do 1024x768 when i want 1280x768
[09:30] <JairunCaloth> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706033
[09:31] <JairunCaloth> It says something else is using it, but I don't know what would be
[09:31] <noiesmo> JairunCaloth, think the automatic updater is using it posibly
[09:32] <chavo> JairunCaloth, try removing the lock file
[09:32] <JairunCaloth> the auto update isn't currenty running
[09:32] <JairunCaloth> at least not as far as I can tell
[09:33] <noiesmo> JairunCaloth, try type in terminal ps ax | grep apt
[09:33] <JairunCaloth> ahhh I see
[09:33] <JairunCaloth> what's the command to end apt
[09:34] <noiesmo> JairunCaloth, you could just do kill xxxx replace xxxx with pid number of running apt process
[09:34] <JairunCaloth> awsome
[09:36] <mekgp> can anyone help with a reading/copying from a NTFS formatted drive question?
[09:36] <JairunCaloth> that was easy enough :) thanks for the help
[09:36] <TheHighChild> th0m4s: Try the arcade section of games from the kmenu. If that doesn't work, try 'ppracer' in the terminal
[09:37] <[fadli_klate] > are u sure u can just kill apt just like that?
[09:37] <JairunCaloth> well it was from when I started an apt earlier...
[09:37] <[fadli_klate] > if u do that to rpm, it kill its database
[09:37] <TheHighChild> th0m4s: You can always add it to the kmenu if you don't have it. Right click and edit item. You can create a new addition
[09:38] <noiesmo> [fadli_klate] , dont worry there's no suger
[09:39] <RawSewage> tj9991, did you try the new Google Earth for Linux yet
[09:39] <tj9991> no
[09:39] <noiesmo> [fadli_klate] , apt is merely downloading the packages and then dpkg handles the install so no damage
[09:39] <tj9991> it would probably kill my computer
[09:39] <JairunCaloth> google earth is out for linux now!!!!
[09:39] <RawSewage> yeah
[09:39] <RawSewage> tons more images
[09:39] <RawSewage> higher resolution
[09:39] <JairunCaloth> That is soooo friken sweet
[09:39] <RawSewage> came out today
[09:39] <mekgp> really? googEarth is out?? coooollL!
[09:40] <RawSewage> the new version
[09:40] <JairunCaloth> I used google earth to pick out my camping spot last year.
[09:40] <RawSewage> Linux is the first option too
[09:40] <[fadli_klate] > is it available thru apt?
[09:40] <RawSewage> before Windows
[09:40] <RawSewage> I doubt it
[09:40] <RawSewage> http://earth.google.com
[09:41] <mekgp> thats the only place for it to be Raw...BEFORE windoze! ;)
[09:41] <RawSewage> just make the .bin exectutable and run it
[09:42] <RawSewage> oh
[09:42] <RawSewage> I bet Linux was selected because Im running Linux
[09:42] <TheHighChild> in k3b, should I make a 'normal copy' or a 'clone copy'? Any idea?
[09:43] <mekgp> can anyone help with a reading/copying from a NTFS formatted drive question?
[09:43] <JairunCaloth> I know it's possible mekgp
[09:43] <TheHighChild> !ntfs
[09:43] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[09:43] <JairunCaloth> well damn
[09:44] <mekgp> i know, flaky writing support...just trying to copy files off of a drive
[09:44] <mekgp> is there an issue with naming-conventions when linux tries to read/copy windoze stuff??
[09:45] <mekgp> like...spaces in the file name?  tooooo many characters???
[09:45] <exceswater> !nvidia
[09:45] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:45] <mekgp> i can copy some files without problem...others, it raises a stink about access
[09:46] <Ademan> i'm trying to access my vsftpd server through WAN, but i can't seem to get it to work, my server is behind 2 routers, so in both routers i opened TCP 20, 21 and 44000 - 44128 for pasv,  and vsftp is aware of the 44000-44128 limitation,  yet I can't connect through wan, what might be up?
[09:46] <th0m4s> TheHighChild: i don't need help with games i need RESOLUTION
[09:47] <exceswater> i have a nvidia geforce 4 mx 440
[09:47] <exceswater> and it seems i don;t have drivers for it installed in kubuntu
[09:47] <JairunCaloth> Mekgp: I havn't run into any problems getting files off of the NTFS drive, however it does seem like I allways have to change the permissions once I get them over to do anything with them.
[09:48] <JairunCaloth> but I"m merly a n00b, so take anythign I say with a grain of salt
[09:49] <exceswater> !nvidia kubuntu
[09:49] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, exceswater
[09:49] <TheHighChild> ok, one sec th0m4s
[09:49] <mekgp> its odd JairunCaloth...it will copy some off the NTFS...others it wont
[09:50] <mekgp> the only corralation i see is file name character length and spaces...the longer they get, the less luck I have copying!
[09:51] <JairunCaloth> Odd, I never ran into any problems. However I didn't copy a whole lot of files either, and they were mostly personal files too.
[09:51] <JairunCaloth> Wish I could help you more... but as I said, I'm a noob
[09:53] <JairunCaloth> anywho, back to installing my graphics drivers
[09:53] <th0m4s> i don't know what i'm doing re: graphics
[09:53] <bulltitan> hello guys
[09:53] <th0m4s> i'm about to setup vnc so that i can just give an expert login info to a laptop with 0 personal data whatsoever
[09:53] <noiesmo> exceswater, do you have universe and multiverse enabled then you can get nvidia drivers
[09:53] <th0m4s> if that would work
[09:54] <bulltitan> today i'm using a sound blaster live 24 and i see that i can't contro volume by using shortcuts
[09:54] <bulltitan> is this because of pcm control or gstreamer thing?
[09:55] <bulltitan> i'm blind here i could use some help please
[10:07] <JairunCaloth> well that didn't work so well...
[10:09] <th0m4s> i officially need help forcing X to use the resolution that i want
[10:09] <th0m4s> i have tried (in the past, not this time) the edits of the config that are suggested
[10:09] <JairunCaloth> make sure your moniter is properly configured
[10:09] <th0m4s> and while 1280x768 do get added to the config and shoudl work, they never become an option
[10:09] <th0m4s> JairunCaloth: i can't set the model as it's a laptop but i set flat panel 1280x768 :(
[10:09] <th0m4s> http://imagesocket.com/images/snapshot10c4.png
[10:11] <th0m4s> with your advice i will push butan
[10:12] <avatar> hi there. i have a problem with my laptop (acer travelmate 8103), dapper drape, X.org 7.0 and the ati fglrx driver (for the radeon 700). i installed xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686. loading the kernel module is no problem. lsmod shows fglrx and agpgart. but starting x is broke: (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)\n (EE) No drivers available. so the Xorg module seems to be not found. i don't know ...
[10:12] <avatar> ... what to do further :-/
[10:12] <th0m4s> avatar: "acer"
[10:12] <avatar> th0m4s: this means in long form? "calling the famous acer support?"
[10:12] <th0m4s> this means "you are using an acer"
[10:13] <avatar> th0m4s: yes, that is correct. an acer travelmate 8103 - better than no computer :)
[10:13] <th0m4s> http://mindspill.net/v3/content/computing/linux_notes-gentoo-install_guide-acer_travelmate_8104wlmi.html
[10:13] <th0m4s> closest one
[10:14] <th0m4s> wow that's pretty in depth
[10:15] <th0m4s> closest for me is a :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=476349
[10:17] <th0m4s> the only one that really applies is in italian
[10:17] <avatar> ah well, i'll take a look, thanks.
[10:18] <th0m4s> The video chipset is an Intel 855GME. For some reason the BIOS does not correctly setup the widescreen mode so this is not auto-deteced by the Xorg server (as far as I can work out). To get widescreen working I had to download and compile the 855resolution utility from Alan Poirier (thanks Alan!). Follow the instruction in the README.txt, that is
[10:23] <RawSewage> tj9991,  http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060612/D8I6QGPO3.html
[10:23] <tj9991> yes, I know
[10:23] <tj9991> I knew about that weeks ago
[10:23] <RawSewage> I know.  you sent me the mp3, remember, Champ
[10:24] <tj9991> im eating dry top ramen
[10:24] <tj9991> the snack for programmers
[10:24] <RawSewage> what does that have to do with Kubuntu
[10:24] <tj9991> [01:23]  <RawSewage> tj9991,  http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060612/D8I6QGPO3.html
[10:25] <tj9991> what does that have to do with Kubuntu
[10:30] <erik__> Kubuntu freezes my computer completely when playing videos (after about 15 min).. It is the same with any codec and any video player... I tried re-installing Kubuntu and it is the same now with a 100% clean and fresh installation
[10:30] <erik__> what can be wrong?
[10:31] <th0m4s> sounds like overheating
[10:31] <th0m4s> whats the computer
[10:31] <th0m4s> ok woah now i'm in a much higher rez but is it the right higher rez
[10:31] <th0m4s> OMG 855resolution IS THE BOMB
[10:31] <th0m4s> WOOT
[10:32] <erik__> th0m4s: it's a laptop, my fan doesn't even turn on when playing a low-res movie like I was just now, last time it froze
[10:33] <mrmist> Hi guys
[10:33] <mrmist> I need to make a machine set it's own static IP-address
[10:33] <mrmist> anyone know how to ?
[10:34] <th0m4s> ifconfig
[10:34] <erik__> th0m4s: any idea? where can I find logs about what happens?
[10:34] <mrmist> th0m4s: er... I need to SET the IP automatically each time I boot... not read it
[10:34] <mindspin> hi, when I load default kernel (2.6.15) my pcmcia nic is not recognized, I have to boot with 2.6.12 kernel any ideas?
[10:34] <nnn0> mrmist: ifconfig eth 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[10:34] <nnn0> for instance
[10:35] <nnn0> eth0 of course
[10:35] <nnn0> but you may have to use route also
[10:35] <erik__> mrmist: I think in /etc/hosts though you can certainly do it with some graphic config app instead
[10:35] <nnn0> to set the network and the gateway
[10:35] <JairunCaloth> happy fun time with text based irc...
[10:35] <nnn0> no hosts are for local nameresolving
[10:35] <th0m4s> or you could install webmin and do it that way
[10:35] <th0m4s> (graphically)
[10:36] <erik__> mrmist: K -> System Settings -> Network Settings
[10:36] <pd273> mrmist: you can do this
[10:36] <pd273> Go to Start-> System settings -> Network settings
[10:36] <pd273> click the Admin mode and you can add your own IP address
[10:36] <JairunCaloth> If I were an error log for X, where might I be hidding?
[10:36] <nnn0> mrmist, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.html :)
[10:36] <erik__> where can I find logs about why my computer locks up completely when playing movies for about 15 min?
[10:37] <pd273> its in /etc/network/interfaces if you need to do it in the CLI way
[10:37] <mrmist> th0m4s: Will that command make the PC have the same IP each time it starts ???
[10:38] <th0m4s> i dunno really
[10:38] <pd273> mrmist: yup
[10:38] <erik__> where can I get help with Kubuntu?
[10:38] <erik__> any help channels?
[10:38] <pd273> here :)
[10:39] <erik__> pd273: obiously I can't, so do you know somplace else?
[10:39] <th0m4s> tryin to figure out
[10:39] <th0m4s> install apache through adept or not
[10:39] <mrmist> ah... think I got it now...
[10:39] <pd273> erik__: you can get most help from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:39] <mrmist> trying to rebbot the server...
[10:40] <mrmist> Thanks guys :)
[10:40] <pd273> erik__: did you check /var/log/messages for any usefull info about the crash
[10:40] <mrmist> gotta go now
[10:40] <mrmist> cya
[10:40] <th0m4s> someone said that the dapper dvd added itself as another repository for packages when you put it in
[10:40] <th0m4s> but that did not happen for me
[10:40] <th0m4s> am i supposed to put it in before or after starting adept
[10:41] <pd273> th0m4s: if it does not work that way, insert the CD and try "sudo apt-cdrom add" from CLI
[10:42] <pd273> it might work to add the DVD too to the repo
[10:42] <th0m4s> pd273: well i had the dvd in before starting adept and maybe i should put it in after
[10:42] <th0m4s> is the question
[10:43] <pd273> th0m4s: am not sure about adept doing it automatically
[10:43] <pd273> let me check
[10:44] <th0m4s> just using your apt
[10:44] <visik7> what means X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[10:45] <visik7> every apps generate this error
[10:45] <admin_> Hey All
[10:46] <cox377> Hi all
[10:46] <cox377> i was wondering if someone can give me a hand with something
[10:47] <pd273> th0m4s: I tried but adept is not doing it automatically for me
[10:47] <pd273> we could try cox377
[10:47] <cox377> I'm knew to Linux.. had kubuntu installed for the last 72 hours and very impressed.. but i'm trying to open some ports up
[10:47] <cox377> and for love nor money i cant get a firewall installed such as guarddog
[10:47] <pd273> hmm
[10:47] <cox377> i've tried the get apt commands
[10:48] <pd273> cox377: your problem might be that you have not enabled the multiverse repository
[10:48] <Partizan77> A hello from beautiful Berlin. Unfortunately my English is too bad, therefore I cannot remain with you. Much fun
[10:48] <cox377> how do i go about enabling them?
[10:49] <pd273> cox377: I am checking for a link
[10:49] <cox377> thanks
[10:49] <cox377> :d
[10:49] <pd273> everybody has this same problem
[10:49] <cox377> :s
[10:49] <nico8481> hi
[10:50] <cox377> Ummm
[10:50] <cox377> is there anyway to open up ports?
[10:50] <cox377> manually maybe
[10:50] <cox377> for a novice
[10:50] <pd273> cox377: what service would this port be used for
[10:51] <cox377> Basically, i have also set Kubuntu as the main OS for someone else, however they use bloody hotmail.. everything has worked fine so far apart from trying to get hotmail working with thunderbird. I've installed an extention to get it to work but 3 ports have to be open for that extention to work
[10:52] <cox377> under adept manager i installed a firewall called shorewall.. but then once installed i cant find it anywhere to be able to configure it
[10:53] <pd273> cox377: for the installation your /etc/apt/sources.list should look like this http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706110
[10:53] <pd273> cox377: shorewall is an excellent firewall, but I should say it is not good for beginners
[10:53] <FHX> Hey all, after installing libdvdcss2 my computer still won't play DVDs, saying that the source can't be read. Does anyone know of how I could fix this?
[10:54] <FHX> (Kaffeine player)
[10:54] <pd273> unders /usr/share/doc/shorewall you will see how to start using shorewall
[10:54] <cox377> ahh ok..
[10:54] <cox377> i shall take a look
[10:54] <cox377> thanks for yah help
[10:54] <pd273> I have shorewall installed of for all my servers
[10:54] <JohnFlux> ah shorewall
[10:55] <cox377> is it fully configurable?
[10:55] <FHX> .____.
[10:58] <pd273> cox377: you can configure it to the best possible :)
[11:01] <pd273> shorewall is the best I have seen
[11:01] <pd273> :)
[11:01] <FHX> ..
[11:01] <FHX> O.o
[11:02] <FHX> Can nobody help me with the DVD problem?
[11:02] <cox377> Just having a read through the instructions
[11:02] <dr3as> FHX: tryed using mplayer?
[11:02] <cox377> does it take over all kubuntu?
[11:02] <FHX> dr3as: I've tried xine + kaffeine. I'll try Mplayer
[11:02] <FHX> dr3as: Both of them give the same error though. So using Mplayer might not help much.
[11:02] <jpatrick> !dvd
[11:02] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[11:03] <dr3as> if you try to brows the place the dvd has been mounted, can you see everything on the dvd?
[11:03] <FHX> yes
[11:03] <FHX> i've already installed libdvdcss2
[11:05] <BlueDevil> any way i can get a gnome-centric application to support webdav in kubuntu?
[11:05] <farous> !easysource
[11:05] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:07] <emonkeylap> BlueDevil, Konqueror is a good WebDav Client why do you want another one in kubuntu?
[11:07] <BlueDevil> i need planner (project management) to open the file from webdav
[11:08] <BlueDevil> planner is a gnome app
[11:08] <cox377> lol.. does this shorewall not have a front end?
[11:08] <BlueDevil> i don't want to copy the file locally, edit it, and then upload it to webdav again
[11:08] <farous> is multiverse supported by ubuntu or is it at the same level as back-ports ??
[11:09] <BlueDevil> emonkeylap: any ideas?
[11:11] <pd273> cox377: I dont think so
[11:12] <pd273> its all CLI work
[11:12] <pd273> guarddog was the last one I have seen with has a good GUI
[11:12] <tj9991> RawSewage, http://www.goonbase.com/
[11:12] <tj9991> why didn't we think of this
[11:12] <pd273> cox377: By default all ports are accessible on your machine
[11:13] <pd273> why do you need a firewall now
[11:13] <smyke> hi again
[11:14] <RawSewage> tj9991, what is it
[11:14] <tj9991> a long long time ago, a poster had the idea of starting a gigantic project
[11:14] <tj9991> everyone added to an image
[11:14] <tj9991> it was done through a forum thread
[11:14] <tj9991> it was so popular someone scripted it to make it easier, and resulted in that site
[11:14] <RawSewage> for Kubuntu?
[11:14] <tj9991> everyone can add a cell or two, or more if they want
[11:15] <tj9991> yes, for Kubuntu
[11:15] <RawSewage> It will give me ideas
[11:15] <tj9991> people like to work together
[11:15] <tj9991> the system is very basic and it works
[11:16] <RawSewage> like in Kubuntu
[11:16] <tj9991> like in lightcycle racing in Tron
[11:16] <tj9991> aka Kubuntu
[11:16] <cox377> ahh
[11:16] <RawSewage> or in #Boringville
[11:16] <cox377> PD273 - if all ports are accessable.. does that not make the machine liable to be open to anything?
[11:17] <pd273> cox377: you are right in a certain way
[11:18] <cox377> Basically.. all i want is to secure the computer.. yet open the ports that i require
[11:19] <cox377> i've used guarddog on a live cd ages ago and i think it did what i want
[11:19] <cox377> i dont know why the apt-get install guarddog isnt working
[11:19] <cox377> root@admin-desktop:~# apt-get install guarddog
[11:19] <cox377> Reading package lists... Done
[11:19] <cox377> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:19] <cox377> Package guarddog is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:19] <cox377> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:19] <cox377> is only available from another source
[11:19] <cox377> E: Package guarddog has no installation candidate
[11:19] <cox377> thats what i get
[11:21] <nnn0> guarddog is judt a gui for iptables
[11:21] <nnn0> jsut
[11:22] <cox377> I know.. but i dont know how to do it manually.. i've had a quick read.. it's gone over my head
[11:22] <cox377> point and shoot is what i'm after
[11:22] <nnn0> k, are you on suse 10.1 ?
[11:22] <nnn0> no sry wrong channel :D
[11:22] <cox377> me?
[11:22] <cox377> Ok
[11:22] <nnn0> you are on kubuntu of course
[11:23] <nnn0> i guess you could just try to download it
[11:23] <samuli> cox377, you don't have right reporitories in sources.list
[11:23] <nnn0> ah, check that first of course
[11:24] <nnn0> guarddog should normally be there
[11:24] <samuli> though sources.list might be something completely different for rmp-package manager.
[11:25] <samuli> err.. hmm.
[11:25] <cox377> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706110
[11:25] <cox377> thats the site that was given to me earlier
[11:25] <emonkeylap> BlueDevil, sorry no idea...
[11:25] <samuli> you said you used apt-get.. but doesn't suse use rpm instead of debs?
[11:25] <cox377> I'm using kubuntu
[11:25] <jpatrick> samuli: what?
[11:26] <jpatrick> Never mind
[11:26] <samuli> cox377, okay.. so check your sources.list
[11:28] <cox377> ahh ok.. sorry i think i'm understanding.. the reporitories are just the list of servers?
[11:29] <cox377> do i just copy and paste those lines from the site into the sources.list?
[11:31] <_rince_> mrgn
[11:31] <weedar> cox377: yes just add them to the end of your /etc/apt/sources.list - take a backup of the original one first jut in case
[11:31] <weedar> Be sure to run "sudo apt-get update" to make apt-get scan all the repositories so you actually use them cox377 :)
[11:32] <cox377> when
[11:32] <cox377> ## Ubuntu Dapper Drake repo
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[11:32] <cox377> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[11:32] <cox377> opps
[11:32] <cox377> sorry i didnt mean to past that
[11:33] <cox377> when i try and save sources.list it says Could not write to /etc/apt/sources.list.part.
[11:33] <weedar> how are you editing sources.list cox377?
[11:33] <jme__> my guess is that you should be root to save those file
[11:34] <cox377> just opening it in the 'kate' txt program
[11:34] <jme__> retry with  'sudo kate'
[11:34] <cox377> how do u mean jme?
[11:35] <weedar> cox377: sources.list requires root-priveleges to edit, when starting a program to edit it you need to prepend "sudo" to the command
[11:35] <jme__> cox377: open a terminal and type 'sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:35] <cox377> do u mean run that under the command prompt
[11:35] <jme__> cox377: then do your modification. and the save should work ok
[11:35] <jme__> weedar: is more didactic than me :)
[11:36] <cox377> it says that it cannot connect to x server
[11:36] <cox377> sorry about this guys
[11:36] <achraf> hello, i followed some tutorials on creating diskless machines that load Ubuntu from a debian server over PXE
[11:36] <firepol> hi there, how to make sure that all applications will obey the "Default browser" setting that I configured in kcontrol > KDE Components > component chooser > Web browser? openoffice keeps opening links in konqueror...
[11:36] <jme__> cox377: i guess you dont know vi ? :)
[11:36] <cox377> lol
[11:36] <achraf> i used initrd to boot over network,,,but while loading services, it starts complaining about /dev/nfs does not exist and then hang, and gives me a VERY limited shell access
[11:36] <cox377> definatly not
[11:36] <RogueJediZero> Hey, um... How do you find samba shares in CLI?
[11:37] <jme__> cox377: well the solution is 1. to become root user 2. to edit and save your file
[11:37] <cox377> root@admin-desktop
[11:37] <jme__> cox377: i dont know the exact step by step details to do so
[11:37] <achraf> am i supposed to add a new udev rule for that?or i am missing something in the config files?
[11:37] <cox377> thats what i'm logged in under the terminal
[11:37] <weedar> cox377: then try with kdesu instead of sudo :)
[11:38] <jme__> cox377: oh, try 'kdesu kate' in a terminal
[11:38] <jme__> like weedar just said
[11:38] <jme__> :)
[11:39] <cox377> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:39] <cox377> haha guess what.. cannot connect to x server
[11:39] <jme__> kdesu doesnt open the X server ?
[11:39] <cox377> just says it cannot open x server
[11:40] <cox377> root@admin-desktop:~# kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:40] <cox377> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[11:40] <jme__> cox377: in the same terminal, do 'id' and paste the result here
[11:40] <jme__> root@admin-desktop:~#
[11:40] <jme__> this is the error :)
[11:40] <jme__> close this terminal and reopen a new one
[11:40] <cox377> root@admin-desktop:~# id
[11:40] <cox377> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[11:40] <jme__> dont become root before doing 'kdesu kate'
[11:40] <samuli> cox377: wtf.. are you using something like su - etc. at start of terminal?
[11:41] <samuli> cox377: start a clean install and do kdesu kate
[11:41] <cox377> lol
[11:41] <cox377> yeh it started the kate of sources.lost
[11:41] <samuli> cox377: err.. install = terminal emulator :)
[11:41] <cox377> what do u mean list*
[11:41] <cox377> what do u mean samuli about su?
[11:42] <cox377> a clean install?
[11:42] <samuli> cox377, you are being root and some sudo or su doesn't always like apps that use X.
[11:43] <samuli> cox377: no install, my typo.. Just start new terminal where you are NOT root. mm-kay?
[11:43] <cox377> lol yeh i think i get yah
[11:43] <cox377> well
[11:43] <cox377> it opened a sources.list modified - kate
[11:43] <cox377> i copied and pasted the lines but it still doesnt allow me to save
[11:44] <samuli> or type nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <samuli> cox377: that's because you need root priviledges to write to sources.list.
[11:44] <cox377> as in logged in as root of within the terminal?
[11:45] <cox377> i executed that line samuli
[11:45] <cox377> and its brought up a screen
[11:45] <samuli> yeah, it's a text-editor.
[11:47] <cox377> is the writeout option the one to save?
[11:49] <samuli> cox377: yeah.
[11:49] <samuli> now just do writeout, but don't close nano.
[11:50] <cox377> how do u do the writeout?
[11:50] <cox377> i've tried writeout enter
[11:50] <cox377> tired ^0 enter
[11:50] <samuli> ^ means pushed with ctrl
[11:50] <jme__> kate would have been simpler to use :)
[11:50] <samuli> so ctrl+o
[11:51] <samuli> jme__: but not simpler to explain ^^
[11:51] <cox377> error writing
[11:51] <cox377> permission denied
[11:52] <samuli> cox377.. umm.. is your username root?
[11:52] <samuli> no it can't be.
[11:52] <cox377> inah
[11:52] <jme__> mouaoua
[11:52] <cox377> do u mean when i log into kubuntu or the actual termal
[11:52] <samuli> so if you have NEW terminal open now that shows yourusername@yourcomputer, then you can use kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <samuli> cox377: any terminal emulator will do.
[11:53] <jme__> 1. open a terminal 2. type 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/source.list' then press enter 3. modify the file according to your need and save it
[11:54] <PhilHyde> Hi folks. Anyone care to give me a hand with a graphics card issue?
[11:55] <Bassetts> PhilHyde: whats the problem?
[11:55] <RogueJediZero> How does one find network shares in console?
[11:55] <jme__> RogueJediZero: mount ?
[11:55] <cox377> guys
[11:55] <cox377> jme
[11:55] <PhilHyde> Bassetts: I *think* I have the drivers for the ATI Rage 128 installed, but I'm not sure that xorg/KDE is using them
[11:55] <jme__> yeah cox377 we listen :)
[11:55] <cox377> i followed your instructions
[11:56] <cox377> now it wont even open the modified source.list like before its just a blank txt box named source.list
[11:56] <cox377> but there is an error msg, can i paste the error msg?
[11:56] <samuli> it's sources.list
[11:56] <jme__> cox377: sure
[11:56] <RogueJediZero> jme__: Kubuntu already mounted them at startup and I can access them in Konqueror just fine, but I can't type smb://sisterscomputer/D in console
[11:56] <biGs`> join #ubuntu-fr
[11:57] <jme__> RogueJediZero: oh i see you want to access them like local file
[11:57] <Bassetts> PhilHyde: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-5ead174a0b3294527486cd4d71ded66b40003f25
[11:57] <RogueJediZero> jme__: Right
[11:57] <cox377> all ok
[11:57] <jme__> RogueJediZero: well you have to 'mount' them in a local directory. unfortunatly i dunno how to do it :)
[11:57] <samuli> RogueJediZero: why don't you mount the sambas as directory?
[11:57] <cox377> admin@admin-desktop:~$ kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:57] <cox377> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:58] <cox377>   Major opcode:  145
[11:58] <cox377>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:58] <cox377>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:58] <jme__> maouaoua what the ffuck :)
[11:58] <cox377> Failed to open device
[11:58] <cox377> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:58] <RogueJediZero> jme__: Dang.
[11:58] <samuli> cox377, those are nothing to worry about.
[11:58] <cox377>   Major opcode:  145
[11:58] <cox377>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:58] <cox377>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:58] <Bassetts> PhilHyde: look in adept to see if the drvier is installed
[11:58] <RogueJediZero> samuli: Because I don't know how to and Kubuntu already mounts them for me
[11:58] <cox377> Failed to open device
[11:58] <cox377> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:58] <cox377>   Major opcode:  145
[11:58] <cox377>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:58] <cox377>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:58] <jpatrick> !pastebin
[11:58] <cox377> Failed to open device
[11:58] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:58] <cox377> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:59] <cox377>   Major opcode:  145
[11:59] <cox377>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:59] <cox377>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:59] <cox377> Failed to open device
[11:59] <cox377> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[11:59] <cox377> sorry
[11:59] <samuli> RogueJediZero: so just go to the directory they are automounted.
[11:59] <cox377> ok
[11:59] <cox377> yey
[11:59] <jme__> cox377: well when said yes, i didnt knew it was that long :)
[11:59] <cox377> it saved
[11:59] <cox377> lol
[11:59] <cox377> sorry
[11:59] <PhilHyde> Bassetts: OK, done that. Rebooting, back in a bit, hopefully
[11:59] <Bassetts> good luck
[11:59] <cox377> ok it's saved.. so now i need to updatew
[12:00] <RogueJediZero> samuli: But I don't know where that is. I can access them in Konqueror via smb://etcetc
[12:00] <cox377> updating now
[12:00] <samuli> RogueJediZero: check out the smb.conf
[12:00] <jme__> RogueJediZero: in a console, if you type 'mount' then press enter, do you see them ?
[12:01] <samuli> RogueJediZero: I know there's easier way, but there you can edit the mount points as well.
[12:01] <weedar> When sharing a printer via CUPS, do the clients also have to have the printer-driver installed?
[12:01] <RogueJediZero> jme__: Nope
[12:01] <RogueJediZero> samuli: Okay, I'll look into it
[12:01] <jme__> RogueJediZero: so they are not 'mounted', kde tools can access it thru another mean called 'kio'
[12:01] <RogueJediZero> Whoops, time to go already. Thanks jme__ , samuli .
[12:02] <RogueJediZero> Stupid social obligations >_<
[12:02] <jme__> RogueJediZero: you need to mount them 'properly' and then they will be usable as local file
[12:02] <jme__> fuse maybe can do it
[12:03] <cox377> couldnt find guarddog but found firestarter
[12:03] <cox377> : )
[12:04] <georgeblunt> heyho
[12:11] <jpatrick> georgeblunt: listen what I say oh
[12:11] <phyde> Bassetts: Well, that's screwed up my X setup. Can't seem to get it back!
[12:11] <phyde> I'm using the command-line IRC client now.
[12:12] <Bassetts> PhilHyde: what error do you get?
[12:12] <PhilHyde> "Fatal server error:
[12:12] <georgeblunt> jpatrick: lol
[12:12] <PhilHyde> no screens found"
[12:12] <Bassetts> PhilHyde: mine worked ok
[12:13] <PhilHyde> I'm sure it did, otherwise you wouldn't have shown me those instructions
[12:13] <PhilHyde> Wouldn't mind getting the setup back that worked, now
[12:13] <Bassetts> !xorg
[12:13] <ubotu> I heard xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[12:14] <Bassetts> run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:14] <PhilHyde> OK
[12:14] <Bassetts> dont rush through it though
[12:15] <jpatrick> georgeblunt: I'm bored, sorry: http://lyriki.com/index.php?title=Red_Hot_Chili_Peppers:Snow_((Hey_Oh))
[12:16] <samuli> Bassets, see if you have backups of xorg.conf in the /etc/X11/ directory (you should
[12:16] <samuli> Umm, I meant philhyde
[12:16] <georgeblunt> jpatrick: hehe.. apperently ;)
[12:18] <PhilHyde> Bassetts: Nope, reconfigured X and it's still giving the same error
[12:18] <PhilHyde> samuli: I'll have a look
[12:18] <Bassetts> ok, did you backup xorg.conf?
[12:19] <PhilHyde> I seem to have about half a dozen automatic backups
[12:19] <PhilHyde> Which is nice...
[12:19] <Bassetts> hmm
[12:19] <Bassetts> do that have a timestamp?
[12:20] <Bassetts> id use the oldest if they do
[12:20] <Bassetts> just sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:20] <PhilHyde> Yeah, went for the oldest. Seems to be working now
[12:20] <Bassetts> ofcrouse replace the file name =P
[12:21] <Bassetts> good =)_
[12:21] <Bassetts> sorry
[12:21] <PhilHyde> I copied the most recent to a backup, then copied the oldest to xorg.conf
[12:22] <Bassetts> good =)
[12:23] <PhilHyde> Right, back in lovely KDE.
[12:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi guys
[12:24] <jpatrick> hi Tallia1Kubuntu
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have seen xgl on my desktop at home.. cool.. a bit sad it doesn't work on my ATI
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> however, i want to ask you if you know a VERY SIMPLE alarm... just something set&go..
[12:25] <pd273> ATI xgl sad story  :-(
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> like the kclock applet, where instead of the time of another area there's the alarm time..
[12:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kalarm is WAY too complicated for a simple alarm isn't it?
[12:26] <pd273> cox377: you still there, did you try guard dog
[12:34] <ru> I am trying to upgrade my kernel
[12:34] <ru> sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[12:34] <ru> linux-686-smp is already the newest version.
[12:34] <ru> but if I check it doesnt seem to actually be installed
[12:35] <ru> In the /boot folder I only see "initrd.img-2.6.15-23-686"
[12:35] <ru> I dont see "sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp"
[12:35] <ru> I mean I dont see xyz-smp sorry
[12:35] <pipitas> weedar: Nope. When sharing a printer via CUPS, clients do NOT have to have the printer-driver installed.
[12:37] <weedar> pipitas: The problem is that when specifying the printer on the client via K->System Settings->Printers->Add printer->Cups Server - I am asked to pick the correct driver after specifyin IP-address for the server and priter
[12:37] <weedar> *printer
[12:37] <noiesmo> ru linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 is latest on dapper at moment
[12:37] <ru> oh ok, so there is no X-smp ?
[12:38] <noiesmo> ru not thru apt repos
[12:39] <noiesmo> ru, download one thru kernel.org and compile it yourself is an option if you want a later kernel
[12:39] <DarkRavenMixage> i switched from gnome to kde and now audio doesn't work anymore..... someone can help me?
[12:39] <ru> so howcome there isnt a -smp?
[12:39] <ru> They just havent gotten around to it?
[12:39] <noiesmo> ru not sure sorry
[12:40] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, hmm how did you switch to kde new install or just thru apt
[12:40] <DarkRavenMixage> thru apt
[12:41] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, does kmix recoknise your card
[12:41] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, lsmod |grep snd make sure your sound card is loaded
[12:42] <DarkRavenMixage> yes the card is loaded
[12:42] <DarkRavenMixage> noiesmo is a kmix problem i think
[12:42] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, also I use alsamixergui for sound control or try system settings and audio
[12:42] <DarkRavenMixage> i got a 5.1
[12:42] <DarkRavenMixage> noiesmo what channels i have to activate
[12:42] <DarkRavenMixage> with a 5.1 card
[12:42] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, install sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[12:43] <DarkRavenMixage> ok
[12:43] <Bassetts> what si the Examples folder for?
[12:43] <noiesmo> Bassetts, openoffice I thinkj
[12:43] <ru> is it possible to make lilo give u an option to select a kernel on boot?
[12:43] <noiesmo> ru,  yes see /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo after you edit it
[12:43] <th0m4s> i thought it already did
[12:44] <kbrooks> hey
[12:44] <kbrooks> i have a question
[12:44] <kbrooks> what is adept_batch & what does it do?
[12:44] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, when you have alsamixergui go K > Multimedia > alsamixergui and turn up MAster
[12:45] <kbrooks> can someone try adept_batch?
[12:47] <ChefWill> why dont you google it kbrooks it will tell you what it does
[12:47] <ChefWill> noones going to just run some command you tell them
[12:47] <DarkRavenMixage> noiesmo not working
[12:47] <DarkRavenMixage> with gnome i was using wave surroound wave center
[12:48] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, does alsamixergui show you soundcard
[12:48] <DarkRavenMixage> noiesmo yes
[12:48] <kbrooks> ChefWill:
[12:49] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, are the speakers white or greeny
[12:49] <kbrooks> "adept_batch: a small tool to allow scripts or other apps to run adept noninteractively, only to show eg. download/installation progress."
[12:49] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, above master
[12:49] <DarkRavenMixage> greeny
[12:49] <ChefWill> there you go
[12:49] <kbrooks> (not quoted as exact. copied and pasted & changed a little)
[12:49] <ChefWill> k class, bbl
[12:50] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, well thats just wierd sure there plugged in :)
[12:50] <DarkRavenMixage> ...
[12:50] <DarkRavenMixage> i's plugged
[12:50] <DarkRavenMixage> ...
[12:50] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, i was joking
[12:51] <DarkRavenMixage> lol
[12:51] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, well something is just not right if lsmod shows card and alsamixgui is greeny and turned up I dont know sorry
[12:52] <ru> noiesmo: Would I just add multiple kernels in the lilo.conf file, then on boot it will ask me?
[12:53] <noiesmo> ru please read lilo manpage
[12:54] <DarkRavenMixage> noiesmo now i managed to made work 2 speakers
[12:54] <noiesmo> ru, you need to run lilo after you edit the lilo.conf file
[12:55] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, cool
[12:55] <DarkRavenMixage> noiesmo why the others don't work anymore? lol
[12:55] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, what did you do?
[12:55] <DarkRavenMixage> noiesmo abilitated surround mix
[12:56] <DarkRavenMixage> noiesmo how can i select wave surround as the central peripheric?
[12:56] <ru> noiesmo: Thanks
[12:56] <noiesmo> ru :) np
[12:57] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, not sure :(
[12:58] <cox377> OMG
[12:58] <cox377> that update that i did
[12:58] <cox377> it now shows all the applications that i've been trying to get on apt for the last 72 hours lol
[01:00] <DarkRavenMixage> noiesmo where i can select the umber of channels?
[01:02] <DarkRavenMixage> someone knows where i can select the numer of channels to us with my soundcard?
[01:02] <noiesmo> DarkRavenMixage, don't know :(
[01:02] <RawSewage> tj9991, when was the last time you programmed anything.  I gave up on Python
[01:02] <tj9991> im programming now
[01:02] <tj9991> and I'm having a problem
[01:03] <RawSewage> tell me in Boringville
[01:03] <tj9991> DreamHost is killing my imagemagick process im running to convert all the frames to a gif half way through
[01:03] <tj9991> so I need to figure out a way to avoid that
[01:03] <Bazzi> multiple processes
[01:03] <msici> hi. i have a problem with my amd64
[01:03] <msici> error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:03] <msici> but the lib is there ...
[01:04] <msici> does somebody know what this could be?
[01:04] <tj9991> how can I do that?
[01:04] <RawSewage> http://wiki.dreamhost.com/index.php/KB_/_Web_Programming_/_Do_you_support....%3F_/_ImageMagick
[01:04] <tj9991> theres 79 different PNG files, all named in a number ascending
[01:04] <RawSewage> This is the Kubuntu channel
[01:04] <RawSewage> ok, Sport
[01:05] <noiesmo> msici, I'm not sure but it sounds like the libXcursor is not were the apps looking for it a symbolic link might fix the error
[01:05] <Bazzi> tj9991 which programming language do you use?
[01:05] <tj9991> im using PHP with an exec command
[01:05] <RawSewage> in Kubuntu?
[01:05] <tj9991> i dont know
[01:05] <tj9991> maybe they use kubuntu
[01:06] <Bazzi> tj9991: in php you can use fork()
[01:06] <Bazzi> or exec asynchronously
[01:07] <RawSewage> !offtopic
[01:07] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[01:07] <tj9991> is there a way to get exec to run on idle process or something, to not trigger the killing program?
[01:07] <msici> noiesmo, how can i say where to look for the lib.... the lib is under /usr/lib .....  if i make ldd <app> there is only : libXcursor.so.1 => not found
[01:07] <msici> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set correctly...
[01:08] <noiesmo> msici, maybe its looking in /usr/local/lib/
[01:09] <DarkRavenMixage> how can i configure a 5.1 audio system????
[01:11] <msici> noiesmo, how can i tell the app to look under /usr/lib and not ander /usr/local/lib ???
[01:11] <noiesmo> msici, just make a symbolic link
[01:11] <msici> noiesmo, the LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib:/usr/lib32:/usr/lib64
[01:12] <msici> noiesmo, okay i try it
[01:12] <msici> noiesmo, no it doesn't work :(
[01:13] <noiesmo> msici, bugger sory couldnt be more helpful :(
[01:14] <msici> noiesmo, ??
[01:23] <stefre> hello ?
[01:24] <stefre> i have a funny question
[01:24] <cox377> ?
[01:24] <stefre> ok, its technical
[01:24] <stefre> do u have a little time ?
[01:25] <cox377> lol unfortunatly i have less knowledge than u
[01:25] <stefre> ok, np mate
[01:28] <pipitas> weedar: the point is to not even use your "K->System Settings->Printers->Add printer->Cups Server" thingie!
[01:29] <RandomDude15> I need help
[01:29] <RandomDude15> I got a broken file system
[01:29] <RandomDude15> and cant get into my system
[01:29] <RandomDude15> because of it
[01:30] <pipitas> weedar: what you did overrides "Printer Browsing" -- you are trying to *install* a printers locally, And of course, this requires a driver!
[01:30] <RandomDude15> well?
[01:32] <weedar> pipitas: so what should I do? :)
[01:33] <pipitas> weedar: and if "Printer Browsing" does not work for you (because Ubuntu packagers decided it is not secure enough for you to have), then try this:  "kprinter --> System Options -->  CUPS server --> [fill in the required info] "  and it should work without client side drivers too. (What it does, is that you are now *polling* the CUPS server for printers and their drivers)
[01:33] <nico8481> is there a "kubuntu way" of configuring the nvidia drivers, or do i need to do it by hand by downloading some stuff somewhere and editing the XF86 config files ?
[01:33] <Bazzi> nico8481: kubuntu way
[01:33] <nico8481> Bazzi: that is... ? :)
[01:33] <RandomDude15> hello?
[01:33] <Bazzi> !nvidia
[01:33] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:33] <Bazzi> ^
[01:34] <RandomDude15> WELL?
[01:34] <defrysk>  nico8481 sudo apt-get install glx ; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:34] <defrysk>  nico8481 sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:34] <defrysk> sorry
[01:34] <weedar> thanks pipitas!
[01:35] <nico8481> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:35] <nico8481>   nvidia-glx: Conflicts: nvidia-xconfig but 1.0+20051122-2 is to be installed
[01:35] <cox377> I was wondering if someone can answer this question
[01:35] <cox377> i've seen screen shots  before when looking @ linux distrobutions
[01:36] <defrysk> nico8481, nvidia-xconfig is not a package its a script
[01:36] <cox377> showing all sorts of cool things on the desktop
[01:36] <nico8481> (i already have nvidia-kernel stuff installed btw)
[01:36] <nico8481> damn me i've read to fast :)
[01:36] <defrysk> nico8481, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:36] <nico8481> yup thx :)
[01:36] <defrysk> nico8481, then restart x
[01:36] <cox377> let me find a image
[01:37] <nico8481> ok
[01:37] <nico8481> on my way... brb
[01:40] <pd273> HI cox377: I was testing guarddog for a while
[01:40] <pd273> it looks good
[01:41] <Quick_silver> !de
[01:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[01:42] <edney_brasil> morning all!
[01:53] <MetaMorfoziS> is tehere kubuntu for 64bit intels?
[02:00] <waylandbill> I'm trying to get apache2 to start. I tried the init script and apache2ctl to start it, but it doesn't stay running. No errors come up when I try to start it.
[02:01] <mickru> hi anyone tried to pppoe on demand? If you have to control a DSL modem it's handy to have something like kinternet... 5.10 didn't have that, does 6.06?
[02:03] <mickru> the faq's state that one should place a link to the connect / disconnect scripts... but comeon, that does require to enter your password over and over again each time you want to connect to the Internet
[02:07] <andreas___> hallo
[02:07] <andreas___> ist jemand hier?
[02:08] <andreas___> can u hear me? oder bin ich schonwieder im channelnirvana
[02:08] <defrysk> !de
[02:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[02:08] <cox377> does anyone have a recommendation for a decent ftp client
[02:08] <pipitas> weedar: so did it work then?
[02:08] <apokryphos> cox377: Konqueror
[02:08] <ome_> you there? apocrophys?
[02:08] <cox377> install gFTP but i think ti's a load of *****!!
[02:08] <andreas___> sorry
[02:08] <apokryphos> ome_: yup 8)
[02:08] <ome_> k awesome
[02:08] <cox377> i shall give it a go apokry
[02:08] <ome_> I thought you were making a joke becuase it apeared to be in another language
[02:09] <ome_> if kubuntu is the best thats what i want
[02:09] <cox377> do u mean konqueror ftp or the actual web browser?
[02:10] <apokryphos> ome_: I certainly think KDE is quite superior to GNOME, so yeah :)
[02:11] <ome_> ok man thats exactly the kinda thing i wanted to know
[02:11] <ome_> first time i touched anything linux related was 3 days ago so your knowledge is awesome
[02:11] <ome_> Im gonna try to use it for everything and only use windows when i have to
[02:12] <RawSewage> Whats the best way to make a DVD of images, playable in a normal DVD player
[02:12] <mindspin> when activating mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail in adept I see a BREAK in red does it mean it isn't a good idea to install it?
[02:12] <apokryphos> RawSewage: digikam is good
[02:12] <RawSewage> ty
[02:14] <Razer> ciao a tutti
[02:14] <Razer> uso linux da pokissimo
[02:15] <RawSewage> I dont think Digikam does that
[02:15] <RawSewage> makes a DVD of images playable on a normal DVD player
[02:15] <RawSewage> not a computer DVD player
[02:15] <RawSewage> a normal TV DVD player
[02:16] <apokryphos> RawSewage: hm, one sec
[02:16] <robin__> hey all, I have a problem and hoping someone here can help, everytime I try to install java I get an error that its going to brake packages. any Idea's?
[02:16] <Razer> Hi...
[02:16] <Razer> nobody is italian?
[02:17] <mindspin> !it
[02:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:17] <winbond> !mp3
[02:17] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:18] <apokryphos> RawSewage: hm, yeah, it's an archive option it seems. There's likely decent ones on kde-apps.org, but I recommend asking in #kde
[02:18] <RawSewage> ok ty
[02:20] <apokryphos> RawSewage: aha, mandvd claims to do it
[02:20] <apokryphos> looks nice too
[02:20] <RawSewage> ok thx
[02:20] <apokryphos> RawSewage: http://kde-apps.org/content/download.php?content=38347&id=1
[02:30] <winbond> how can i add the .com .org .net autocomplete shortcuts to conquerer ,? like in the firefox
[02:30] <robin__> any one have a source for java that i can put in my source list
[02:31] <klerfayt> !java
[02:31] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[02:34] <papa_lic> greez
[02:35] <papa_lic> anyone having a problem with usb unmounting itself?
[02:35] <papa_lic> any suggestions?
[02:37] <winbond> ask in ubuntu , more pepople there
[02:37] <winbond> people
[02:37] <papa_lic> uh..ok
[02:38] <v3ctor> hmm
[02:38] <v3ctor> google earth for linux
[02:41] <moopere> wheeeeeee
[02:43] <statesidela> i get this ( sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun 13 12:37:10 2006 ) after typing this ( sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ) what can i do
[02:43] <Tomze> set the time on your pc
[02:43] <Tomze> but ehmm
[02:43] <statesidela> just did that
[02:44] <Tomze> and i just read the whole message ;)
[02:44] <statesidela> lol k
[02:45] <Tomze> open up your terminal and do "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" if you knwo how to use nano...
[02:47] <RadiantFire> f.y.i. sudo nano is equivalent to the default behaviour of sudoedit
[02:47] <RadiantFire> and you can change default editors using sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[02:48] <exceswater> hi all
[02:50] <ome_> Anyone know a good program to burn kubuntu.iso ? Im in ubuntu
[02:50] <GullyFoyle> isn't alt-space the shortcut for katapult? it isn't working
[02:52] <Hobbsee> GullyFoyle: try alt+f2, type katapult
[02:52] <Hobbsee> and then check if alt+space is already assigned to something
[02:57] <dr3as> trying to install tile, and i just get hecking for Tcl configuration... configure: WARNING: Can't find Tcl configuration definitions
[02:57] <dr3as> ops, hecking=checking...
[03:10] <winbond> i need to install all apps as sudo , sorrect?
[03:10] <winbond> correct?
[03:12] <jpatrick> winbond: yes
[03:13] <winbond> jpatrick: ty , do you know if im installing a app but i dont have the req libs, how can i have it pull the req libs from apt get without requesting the app that im installing
[03:14] <jpatrick> winbond: sudo apt-get install -f
[03:15] <winbond> jpatrick: dang , thanks a lot
[03:15] <jpatrick> winbond: I'm in a good mood
[03:16] <winbond> jpatrick: just started using linux, its interesting , im just learning the basics and experimenting
[03:17] <jpatrick> winbond: cool
[03:19] <winbond> jpatrick: ok , so i got the app installed but i dont have any shortcuts in kde, how can i refresh kde or find out where that app was installed?
[03:19] <jpatrick> winbond: what app was it?
[03:20] <winbond> bittorrent from bittorrent.com
[03:20] <winbond> the official one
[03:21] <jpatrick> No idea
[03:21] <winbond> k
[03:22] <jpatrick> should be in "Internet"
[03:22] <jpatrick> try Alt-F2: "killall kicker && kicker"
[03:24] <ORIGINAL-GANGSTA> hi
[03:25] <jpatrick> I think I scared him^
[03:26] <RawSewage> how do I uninstall Picasa
[03:26] <RawSewage> nm
[03:27] <RawSewage> it might come in handy
[03:29] <railk> what clients are good for listening to mp3 streams? all the ones i've tried give me errors (maybe not the client's fault, but just want to make sure...)
[03:29] <jpatrick> amarok
[03:31] <railk> nope... using one of the streams that are in the list by default -> "access was denied for the url: <stream url>"...
[03:33] <railk> could there be some problem with xine or something?
[03:33] <Bazzi> could be that you ahvent installed libxine-extracodecs?
[03:34] <geneo93> anyone having trouble with azureus not appearing
[03:34] <railk> Bazzi: Adept doesnt even list that package...
[03:34] <PhilHyde> Heya: Almost trivial question; does ubuntu have a command line utility that simply makes the PC speaker emit a beep?
[03:34] <Bazzi> !tell railk about repos
[03:35] <Bazzi> use what the bot told you, then install that package
[03:35] <weedar> geneo93: yes, it is a common bug - not fixed yet, but you could always download a newer version manually
[03:35] <robotgeek> PhilHyde: man beep
[03:35] <geneo93> weedar:  does same thing
[03:36] <PhilHyde> Ah, got it; must have turned up in Dapper, I remember looking for beep in Breezy and never found it
[03:37] <weedar> geneo93: That's what I read on ubuntuforums.org - Haven't tried it myself
[03:37] <geneo93> !azureus
[03:37] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[03:38] <PhilHyde> OK, second and less trivial problem. Some programs won't send sound to ALSA; particularly VLC, and the Flash plugin. I've installed the vlc/Alsa package, but it hasn't helped.
[03:41] <geneo93> nope
[03:41] <winbond> is there an app that will convert mp3 to ogg without having to install mp3 playback codecs?
[03:42] <robotgeek> winbond: i dont suppose that is possible
[03:42] <amdfx> apokyphos_: you there?
[03:42] <winbond> ok , ty
[03:43] <winbond> does anyone use the official bittorrent client?
[03:43] <PhilHyde> Official for whom?
[03:43] <geneo93> winbond:  to slow
[03:43] <winbond> from the guy that made it
[03:43] <winbond> whats his name
[03:44] <PhilHyde> You mean the bittorrent client made by the guys that invented bittorrent, rather than whatever the default KDE bittorent client is that'd be the first thing that you'd find in Kubuntu?
[03:45] <winbond> yeah , bram cohen
[03:45] <winbond> i mean i use all the apps that are there
[03:45] <winbond> but i like to check out all the apps and then decide which one i want to keep
[03:45] <ome2> Anyone know how to setup an nvidia cark in kubuntu?
[03:47] <winbond> not me ,sry
[03:47] <railk> Bazzi: thanks btw :P
[03:48] <rigonatti> does anyone know a good SFTP SSh tools in Ubuntu ??
[03:49] <PhilHyde> In KDE, there's always the fish:// and sftp:// protocols in Konqueror. Otherwise it's just using sftp and ssh in the command prompt, AFAIK. Anyone else?
[03:50] <rigonatti> i was looking for some GUI APP
[03:50] <geneo93> weedar: you have to reconfigure java
[03:50] <rigonatti> like the usually ftp clients
[03:50] <PhilHyde> rigonatti: Konqueror, then. Does the lot.
[03:51] <geneo93> weedar: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:51] <geneo93>   and pick the sun java
[03:53] <geneo93> the icon is blank in taskbar though
[03:54] <david> Hey, is there any way to force a program to have an icon in the taskbar?
[03:55] <geneo93> yes just right click taskbar
[03:56] <david> well, all I can get out of that is adding a button to the panel
[03:57] <winbond> geneo93: did you use the official bittorrent?
[03:58] <geneo93> no azureus
[03:58] <robotgeek> why not use ktorrent
[03:58] <geneo93> because its slow as snot
[03:59] <robotgeek> hmm, works for me.
[03:59] <geneo93> azureus is twice as fast
[03:59] <david> I'm sure its speed is on a user to user basis though
[04:00] <david> azureus was slow for me
[04:00] <david> on windows at least
[04:00] <geneo93> na its the way it reads things
[04:00] <david> oh, diff protocols?
[04:00] <david> or something like that
[04:00] <terminet> hi folks
[04:00] <david> hallo
[04:00] <geneo93> windows sucks for any connection
[04:01] <david> microtorrent worked pretty well with it
[04:01] <SeanTater> I like Ktorrent just becasue it's part of the KDE project
[04:01] <david> oh that reminds me
[04:01] <david> do you need to set up a firewall in linux?
[04:01] <SeanTater> david: not likely
[04:01] <geneo93> if you like you can
[04:02] <david> cuz i heard most of the ports are closed by default
[04:02] <SeanTater> david: if you want, it's extremely simple, I'll take you through it
[04:02] <david> lay it on me sean
[04:02] <PhilHyde> I wouldn't mind hearing about firewall config; I'm not sure what the firewall on this machine is doing.
[04:02] <SeanTater> david: they are clodes by default, that's why firewalls are not entirely necessary
[04:02] <PhilHyde> Other than "running".
[04:03] <SeanTater> david, bet a terminal ready
[04:03] <SeanTater> david, get even
[04:03] <david> wait, get even?
[04:03] <geneo93> i have hardware firewall
[04:03] <SeanTater> david, I was spell correcting myself
[04:03] <SeanTater> david, anyway, get a terminal ready
[04:03] <david> ah
[04:03] <david> its up
[04:04] <SeanTater> david, execute: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[04:04] <david> for a sec i thought get even was what i was supposed to type in console
[04:04] <david> oh i already installed firestarted
[04:04] <RawSewage> how do you uninstall something thats not in the Add/Remove program list
[04:04] <RawSewage> but was installed with dpkg
[04:04] <SeanTater> david, that's your firewall, now for step 2
[04:04] <david> yay!
[04:04] <david> i knew there was more to it
[04:04] <david> continue...
[04:05] <SeanTater> david, type in: gksu firestarter
[04:05] <david> neat!
[04:05] <PhilHyde> Is there a firewall config program that doesn't involve downloading Gnome?
[04:05] <v3ctor> guarddog
[04:05] <david> do you have to do that everytime you want the firewall up?
[04:05] <SeanTater> david, does a wizard come up -- if so, do what it tells you to do
[04:06] <PhilHyde> Good, I'm avoiding Gnome like the plague
[04:06] <david> i think i already did the wizard
[04:06] <SeanTater> david: no
[04:06] <v3ctor> guarddog is qt based
[04:06] <david> cuz right now its just a box
[04:06] <SeanTater> david: then look in the policy tab
[04:06] <v3ctor> and a bit easier than firestarter
[04:06] <david> whats qt
[04:06] <david> and then what do i do
[04:06] <SeanTater> v3ctor, he's already has firestarter 1/2 way set up
[04:06] <PhilHyde> QT is the toolkit KDE uses to make applications
[04:07] <v3ctor> SeanTater: talking to the guy that doesn;t want gnome apps
[04:07] <v3ctor> or gtk
[04:08] <SeanTater> david: do you have any special programs, like a web server or SSHD installed and intend to use?
[04:08] <david> no
[04:08] <david> and probably wont have anything that fancy
[04:09] <SeanTater> david: then quit firestarter (it will still be running -- you cannot see it), you are done
[04:09] <david> so, if i have firestarter installed
[04:09] <david> does that mean it protects me everytime the computer boots?
[04:09] <SeanTater> david:  yes
[04:09] <david> cool cool
[04:10] <david> now... for another question
[04:10] <david> is there a way to make the windows key open up the k menu?
[04:10] <SeanTater> david: dunno -- brb
[04:10] <david> arg
[04:12] <SeanTater> david: okay - back
[04:12] <david> yay
[04:13] <geneo93> if you like qt things goto sourceforge and checkout unizone
[04:13] <david> whats unizone?
[04:13] <geneo93> chat and filesharing app
[04:14] <geneo93> with magical powers
[04:14] <david> intriguing
[04:14] <geneo93> you'll need qt devel tools
[04:14] <david> is there like a limewire eqivilent for linux?
[04:15] <Kadran> i have tried the desktop install today and every thing was so easy and i made many mistakes :) i think i like the old install school
[04:15] <v3ctor> apollon
[04:15] <v3ctor> or limewire
[04:15] <Kadran> david: why limewire, use kmldonkey and have them all :)
[04:16] <mhterres> morning
[04:16] <Chryseus> david: you could try binding "dcop kicker kicker showKMenu" command to the windows-butons
[04:18] <v3ctor> what is the hotkey app?
[04:19] <Chryseus> khotkeys?
[04:19] <v3ctor> hmm @ ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed.
[04:19] <Chryseus> though you need to run it from kcontrol afaik
[04:20] <v3ctor> ahh
[04:21] <ome2> is there something simular to repository in kubuntu?
[04:22] <octan> how do i use 2 sound apps at once.. like amarok and teamspeaker, i need to have 0 sound apps running and disable the kde sound system to get teamspeaker to work. i tryed aoss but it didnt work verry well
[04:22] <octan> it was all working perfectly when i had debian sarge installed
[04:23] <v3ctor> kmenu is already set up
[04:23] <manicman> nabend
[04:23] <octan> can ayone give me a helping hand pls
[04:24] <manicman> wie heit das programm mit dem ich den mirror wechseln kann? also ich brauch n mirror, auf dem auch eclipse und n gutes svn tool wie esvn liegt...
[04:24] <octan> jaja la os alle ikke snakke engelsk
[04:24] <manicman> oh sry
[04:24] <octan> hehe :P
[04:24] <v3ctor> !de
[04:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:25] <octan> i nees some seriuse help with this ..
[04:25] <manicman> how is the tool named with which i can change the mirror of  adept? i need a mirror providing eclipse and some svn tool like esvn..
[04:25] <octan> your source.list edit it
[04:26] <david> so, lets say youre given a repository
[04:26] <david> deb http://wewoai;foi.csjioareoi ./
[04:26] <v3ctor> octan: if you use a sound daemon you can use two sound s=devices at one
[04:26] <david> with the ./ at the end
[04:26] <david> what is the correct way to add that repository to adept
[04:26] <octan> v3ctor, what?
[04:27] <v3ctor> if you use artsd or esd you can have to apps sending sounds at once
[04:28] <octan> v3ctor, no i cant.. if so pls tell me how.. cos when i open teamspeaker while etc amarok is playing.. TS is not working
[04:28] <v3ctor> you need to set them both to use the sound daemon
[04:29] <octan> v3ctor, TS uses alsa i think
[04:29] <octan> i tryed set the kde sound system to alsa, but it still wount work if other apps are running
[04:29] <manicman> octan: and can u tell me a mirror which contains eclipse?
[04:29] <v3ctor> alsa is not good for that
[04:30] <octan> manicman, no sorry..
[04:30] <octan> v3ctor, oss-emulation. i think its the way,, but i cant fig it out
[04:30] <octan> i have alsa-oss installed
[04:30] <octan> and i tryed using aoss but nogood
[04:30] <david> so, any tips on adding repositories to adept where they have a ./ at the end?
[04:31] <octan> david> vim. kate mc synaptic etc etc
[04:31] <octan> edit source.list in /etc/apt
[04:32] <v3ctor> oss is not what you need
[04:32] <v3ctor> you need a server in between you apps and you sound card
[04:32] <v3ctor> the service will allow full duplex comunication with sound device
[04:32] <david> well, i tried just pasting in the line
[04:32] <david> but then when i tried to download something from there
[04:33] <david> it gave me a "BREAK" error
[04:33] <david> so i figure theres more to it than that
[04:33] <david> and if i remove the ./ entirely, adept wont even start
 i have full duplex enabled in kde sound system.. and its set to alsa atm
[04:35] <octan> v3ctor, if i do killall artsd and then open teamspeaker, then TS works
[04:35] <octan> but not any other sound apps... amarok looks like its playing but no sound form it
[04:35] <v3ctor> set TS to use artsd
[04:36] <octan> ii cant set TS to use artsd
[04:36] <octan> it uses a lowlevel sound deamon by default.
[04:36] <octan> alsa
[04:37] <octan> v3ctor, only option i have in TS is the sound driver i can set.. atm its set to /dev/dsp
[04:37] <octan> i tryed adsp. that didnt work
[04:38] <v3ctor> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Sound
[04:38] <v3ctor> there is an arts section
[04:39] <octan> let me read that
[04:40] <david> so, i installed wine, but it won't work when i run the command "wine"
[04:40] <david> whyyy?
[04:41] <geneo93> wine notepad
[04:41] <cox377> lol
[04:41] <cox377> me again.. just wondering... from within Kubuntu.. is it possible to find a list of your hardware?
[04:42] <winbond> how can i find dufferent drivers for my land cards , the ones i have make it time out at any larger download
[04:42] <v3ctor> sudo lshw
[04:42] <winbond> lan-cardf
[04:42] <v3ctor> for hardware list
[04:42] <cox377> i want to upgrade the driver for my onboard gfx card as it will only support 1024*786 compared to my moms which is also onboard and unknown and auto set itsell @ 1600
[04:44] <david> is there a command to configure wine?
[04:44] <Bazzi> winecfg
[04:44] <Bazzi> =)
[04:48] <winbond> ok , so i found the hardware , now how do i find a better driver for tht hardware?
[04:49] <octan> v3ctor thxz alot.. got it working now :)
[04:50] <v3ctor> octan: great
[04:50] <visik7> any deb of googleearth ?
[04:50] <v3ctor> visik7: haven't seen one yet this morn
[04:50] <visik7> :/
[04:51] <v3ctor> but the .bin installs well
[04:51] <v3ctor> ran it earlier
[04:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !time
[04:53] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[04:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !clock
[04:53] <ubotu> I guess clock is sudo dpkg-reconfigure ntpdate
[04:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ubotu: no, you are wrong, i haven't that installed
[04:54] <ubotu> Tallia1Kubuntu: what are you talking about?
[04:54] <Hobbsee> !ubotu
[04:54] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:54] <patch> hi all
[04:54] <Hobbsee> hey patch
[04:55] <patch> could anyone help me with codecs / mplayer etc ?
[04:55] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: what's the problem?  ntpdate's installed by default, btw
[04:55] <Hobbsee> !restricted
[04:55] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[04:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: i think i removed it
[04:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> was wondering how to change the system rime
[04:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> time
[04:55] <patch> i am trying to get the codecs working. the ones that mplayer provide
[04:56] <patch> but in kaffine
[04:57] <Hobbsee> !libdvdcss
[04:57] <Hobbsee> !+libdvdcss
[04:57] <ubotu> it has been said that libdvdcss is (DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)) for i386. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for PPC and amd64, or or just add 'deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main' to your souces.list
[04:59] <patch> ok so i have that dvd lib
[04:59] <patch> what can i install for mpeg/mov/wmv etc
[04:59] <patch> thanks btw
[05:00] <Hobbsee> i'd check the restricted page for that
[05:00] <cox377> is there anyway of forcing a better rez
[05:01] <cox377> currently the max i can get is 1024 but really would love 1280 - 1024
[05:02] <JohnFlux> cox377: I'm sure there's a better way, but I can tell you the manual way
[05:03] <JohnFlux> cox377: open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:04] <ubuntu> hola, soy nica
[05:05] <winbond> !drivers
[05:05] <ubotu> [drivers]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[05:06] <cox377> cheers john
[05:06] <cox377> shall go there now
[05:08] <cox377> John
[05:09] <cox377> there is a bit within there that states
[05:09] <cox377> SubSection "Display"
[05:09] <cox377> 		Depth		1
[05:09] <cox377> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[05:09] <cox377> that 5 times
[05:09] <cox377> do i add the higher rez in?
[05:11] <daviduk> any one know of a manual for tinyerp
[05:11] <JohnFlux> cox377: right
[05:12] <JohnFlux> cox377: add in the higher res (at the front) of each line
[05:12] <cox377> Ok.. wish me luck
[05:12] <cox377> lol
[05:12] <statesidela> hi  there i just installed kubuntu and am having trouble doing su into root tells me its is wrong password and i know its right
[05:13] <statesidela> anyone have any ideas?/
[05:15] <JohnFlux> !su
[05:15] <ubotu> JohnFlux: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:15] <JohnFlux> !sudo
[05:15] <ubotu> I guess sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:15] <JohnFlux> statesidela: you aren't supposed to su as root
[05:15] <JohnFlux> statesidela: the idea is that you are supposed to get used to using sudo instead
[05:15] <JohnFlux> statesidela: if you really want to su, then do sudo passwd root
[05:16] <statesidela> su under my previous flavor Suse
[05:16] <statesidela> thank you flux
[05:16] <JohnFlux> statesidela: but I recommend giving sudo a try
[05:16] <[BU] Brizz> does anyone know how to make it so Adept doesn't ask for my password twice?
[05:17] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: dunno, but an evil option is to make it suid :)
[05:17] <[BU] Brizz> lol
[05:17] <[BU] Brizz> well it only seems to do that when I have updates and I click on the icon in the tray
[05:17] <JohnFlux> well if you're the only person on the machine, it probably won't hurt
[05:17] <[BU] Brizz> how would I go about it/
[05:18] <JohnFlux> I'm not recommending it - but  chmod +S /usr/bin/adept    would probably do it
[05:18] <[BU] Brizz> I may or may not try it
[05:18] <[BU] Brizz> :)
[05:18] <patch> sorry for the delay. that worked perfectly. thanks all
[05:18] <patch> bye
[05:18] <[BU] Brizz> have you tried the new Linux Google Earth?
[05:19] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: not yet
[05:19] <[BU] Brizz> I can't get it to work how I want
[05:19] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: downloaded it though
[05:19] <JohnFlux> $ adept
[05:19] <JohnFlux> The KDE libraries are not designed to run with suid privileges.
[05:19] <JohnFlux> heh
[05:19] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: KDE won't allow it :)
[05:19] <[BU] Brizz> I installed it as root so it would install to the system paths, but it tells me symlink: permission denied when I try to run it as a user
[05:19] <[BU] Brizz> hehe no problem, it's not that big of a deal
[05:20] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: what do you type to run it as a user?
[05:20] <[BU] Brizz> googleearth
[05:20] <[BU] Brizz> there is a symlink in .usr.local.bin
[05:20] <[BU] Brizz> .=/
[05:21] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: where does the symlink point to?
[05:21] <[BU] Brizz> but it has the same permissions and rights as other symlinks in that folder
[05:21] <[BU] Brizz> /usr/local/google-earth/googleearth
[05:21] <JohnFlux> what are the rights on that?
[05:21] <winbond> where can i get the cource code of the kernell thats in kubuntu 6.06?
[05:21] <winbond> s
[05:21] <[BU] Brizz> root:root
[05:21] <JohnFlux> winbond: apt-cache search kernel
[05:21] <JohnFlux> winbond: it will be there somewhere ;)
[05:21] <[BU] Brizz> and I'm still not sure how to read the rights, but it says lrwxrwxrwx
[05:22] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: no that's the symlink
[05:22] <[BU] Brizz> oh yah lol
[05:22] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: that's always that for symlinks
[05:22] <winbond> so i should have a source on my pc already?
[05:22] <JohnFlux> winbond: probably nmot
[05:22] <JohnFlux> not
[05:22] <[BU] Brizz> okay on that one the rights are foo:user -rwxr-xr-x
[05:22] <[BU] Brizz> this is like a script, though
[05:22] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: what about for the directory it's in
[05:23] <[BU] Brizz> it runs googleearth-bin in the same directory
[05:23] <JohnFlux> winbond: do "uname -a"
[05:23] <[BU] Brizz> root:root drwxr-xr-x
[05:23] <JohnFlux> winbond: and paste the result
[05:23] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: that looks okay
[05:23] <Drakeson> something really amuses me. How popular is kubuntu dapper? I encounter this name way too much in various places. I think someone could do a market share analysis ;)
[05:23] <winbond> i need to download it because lan driver needs it to install itself
[05:23] <daviduk> any one know a good erp that works with dapper or a tinyerp guide?
[05:24] <JohnFlux> Drakeson: google distrowatch
[05:24] <JohnFlux> Drakeson: they do the market share analysis
[05:24] <winbond> JohnFlux: 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:24] <Drakeson> JohnFlux: distrowatch is not a good measure ;)
[05:24] <JohnFlux> Drakeson: best there is though I think
[05:24] <JohnFlux> winbond: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[05:25] <JohnFlux> winbond: that should install to /usr/src/linux-2.6.15  probably
[05:25] <Drakeson> JohnFlux: is there anything in google?
[05:25] <Drakeson> like say google trends, ...
[05:25] <JohnFlux> dunno
[05:25] <Drakeson> something that gives you the webbrowser/OS stats
[05:26] <winbond> JohnFlux: good info , thank you
[05:26] <JohnFlux> winbond: why do you want it btw?
[05:26] <[BU] Brizz> JohnFlux: any idea what this means??
[05:27] <[BU] Brizz> bah hold on
[05:27] <winbond> JohnFlux: i want to update my lan card driver and it needs the kernel source to either install itself or make a kernell patch
[05:27] <JohnFlux> winbond: ah, yeah that it might
[05:27] <JohnFlux> winbond: you might get away with just the headers though
[05:27] <[BU] Brizz> JohnFlux: this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/CtAAIV60.html
[05:27] <JohnFlux> winbond: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-23
[05:27] <JohnFlux> winbond: that will be smaller to download
[05:28] <[BU] Brizz> I get it every time I run a shell script from terminal
[05:28] <JohnFlux> winbond: that might be sufficent
[05:28] <winbond> JohnFlux: im kind of new , not sure what headers are
[05:28] <JohnFlux> winbond: it's...
[05:28] <JohnFlux> winbond: like the blueprints of a car
[05:29] <JohnFlux> winbond: you can't actually drive it or use it in anyway
[05:29] <winbond> JohnFlux: ahh
[05:29] <JohnFlux> winbond: but often all an add-on needs is to know where to put itself
[05:29] <JohnFlux> winbond: that's gotta be the worst analogy ever given here :)
[05:29] <JohnFlux> but it's close
[05:30] <winbond> JohnFlux: i get the point though
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Well that didn't work
[05:32] <[BU] Brizz> JohnFlux: sorry, Google Earth crashed me lol
[05:33] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: heh.  lots of people on slashdot complained about the same thing
[05:33] <erik__> are there any debs of gnash?
[05:33] <winbond> when i installed mandrake 2006 , it fried my nvidia lancard, so al li have left is the marvell giga lan "built in" and the driver from ubuntu works but makes any larger download time out
[05:33] <[BU] Brizz> JohnFlux: I've gotten it to run as sudo and it's pretty good, but I got all kinds of graphical smearing
[05:33] <[BU] Brizz> not that I have a great card in this machine...
[05:34] <[BU] Brizz> winbond: could be an MTU problem
[05:35] <winbond> [BU] Brizz: 1500 standard , right?
[05:35] <[BU] Brizz> typically :)
[05:35] <[BU] Brizz> but some internet connections are 1482 or something
[05:35] <[BU] Brizz> DSL especially
[05:36] <winbond> [BU] Brizz: do you know where the settings for it is?
[05:36] <[BU] Brizz> I can't remember, I did it from the command line before
[05:36] <[BU] Brizz> it was something like ifconfig eth0 mtu 1450
[05:36] <cox377> U stilll about john?
[05:36] <winbond> [BU] Brizz: i have cable ,and dlink router
[05:36] <[BU] Brizz> 1500 shouold be fine
[05:36] <[BU] Brizz> but you could lower it just to test
[05:37] <winbond> [BU] Brizz: ill try ,ty
[05:37] <[BU] Brizz> np :)
[05:37] <cox377> i addedd "1280x1024" to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file restarted and it's\ not available under system settings
[05:37] <erik__> anyone tried gnash?
[05:37] <winbond> cox377: you have nvidia or ati?
[05:38] <cox377> unforutnatly not
[05:38] <cox377> it's a
[05:38] <purucho> #kubuntu-es
[05:38] <[BU] Brizz> erik__: unfortunately, no
[05:39] <cox377> 	Device		"VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video"
[05:39] <winbond> cox377: haha , i forgot there are still other companies around making video cards
[05:39] <cox377> lol
[05:39] <cox377> its an onboard card on a MSI motherboard
[05:39] <[BU] Brizz> cox377: are you sure your card supports that resolution?
[05:39] <v3ctor> S3 are horiible
[05:39] <cox377> the other machine i install Kubuntu was no name and it supports 100's of rez's
[05:39] <cox377> yeh i bet
[05:39] <cox377> the only things that are supported are
[05:40] <winbond> cox377: i dont know anything about s3 , sry
[05:40] <cox377> "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[05:40] <winbond> cox377: see if they have any linux drivers
[05:40] <cox377> opps
[05:40] <cox377> "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[05:40] <cox377> and i added the 1280
[05:41] <[BU] Brizz> well one thing is that 1280x1024 is not square
[05:41] <cox377> :s
[05:41] <[BU] Brizz> it's 1280x960
[05:41] <cox377> 1280x1024 is what i ran on my M$ machine thats why i tried that
[05:42] <cox377> but surely.. which ever size it is it should show up in the system settings
[05:42] <cox377> providing it's been added
[05:42] <v3ctor> it won't show what the card dpes not support
[05:42] <[BU] Brizz> providing your card supports it iirc
[05:42] <[BU] Brizz> technically it might support 1280x960 and not 1280x1024
[05:42] <v3ctor> prevents you from using unstable settings
[05:43] <[BU] Brizz> here is some Debian related help on your same mobo from what I can gather: http://www.debianhelp.org/module-pnForum-viewtopic-topic-10154.html
[05:43] <romeo5k> kkathman
[05:43] <romeo5k> u here?
[05:44] <cox377> cheers for that
[05:44] <[BU] Brizz> np hth :)
[05:44] <kkathman> hi romeo5k :)
[05:44] <romeo5k> hi
[05:44] <romeo5k>  hope u not busy...
[05:44] <kkathman> not at the moment :)
[05:44] <romeo5k> i wanted to tell u something.. remmeber  me  right??
[05:45] <kkathman> yes
[05:45] <kkathman> from last evening
[05:45] <romeo5k> ok.. i found out the solution about the nvdia chipset.. yes from last evening
[05:45] <romeo5k> well at least on my mobo that is....
[05:46] <kkathman> romeo5k:  excellent!! Glad you found out.. can you share that...because others need that information :)
[05:46] <romeo5k> i have the A8N VM- CSM.. in case someone comes with the same prob
[05:46] <kkathman> hmm ok..thats a different card than Im used to seeing
[05:46] <romeo5k> this may sound stupid.. but believe me it makes sense
[05:46] <romeo5k> no A8Nvm CSM is the mobo..
[05:47] <kkathman> ahh ok
[05:47] <kkathman> not a separate card
[05:47] <romeo5k> no..........
[05:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> isn't there anybody that likes the way ICQ or Skype chat works? i have to say that is convenient to leave messages even when the other buddy is offline... it's something that is completely missing in MSN, isn't it????
[05:49] <Bazzi> Tallia1Kubuntu: MSN 8 has it
[05:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ???
[05:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in kopete this doesn't work ...
[05:49] <Bazzi> MSN 8 is still beta
[05:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anyway this have been a CHANGE in the protocol right?
[05:49] <kkathman> romeo5k:  if that was the case, on the mobo, I wonder if you could have just installed the driver, before you installed the OS
[05:49] <Bazzi> and still way off till others implement it
[05:50] <kkathman> some allow that, but I dont know if your mobo doesnt aht or not
[05:50] <kkathman> I have an ASUS mobo, and I can load drivers external to the OS
[05:51] <romeo5k> kkathman ... the trick is... being that i have Windows installed on a whole diffeerent HDD.. it didnt matter.... i cannot restart the computer or nothing.. What i have to do is turn off the computer, and unplug the power cord for about 5 secs... then restart and boot to kubuntu
[05:52] <[BU] Brizz> heh MSN doesn't work on Kubuntu! :P
[05:52] <kkathman> romeo5k:  ohh hmm interesting.
[05:52] <[BU] Brizz> silly Bazzi
[05:52] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: Bazzi?
[05:52] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: MS keeps breaking the protocol
[05:52] <[BU] Brizz> yah they all do
[05:52] <romeo5k> kkathman.. i knowit sounded stupid but thats the truth
[05:52] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: It's silly you for using a proprietary closed protocol controlled by a company known to break it :P
[05:53] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: jabber doesn't
[05:53] <kkathman> romeo5k:  yes thats very odd
[05:53] <[BU] Brizz> I'm okay if Google would just port Google Talk and give it plugin support
[05:53] <romeo5k> kkathman.. its like a  bug that windows will not allow it to boot...
[05:53] <[BU] Brizz> then people could add whatever they wanted
[05:53] <romeo5k> brb
[05:53] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: gmail works in mozilla
[05:53] <kkathman> romeo5k:  haha  well imagine my surprised :)
[05:53] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: I use that at the moment
[05:53] <kkathman> hehe
[05:53] <JohnFlux> [BU] Brizz: (that uses jabber)
[05:53] <v3ctor> google talk is just jabber
[05:54] <[BU] Brizz> Jabber isn't Google Talk but yes vice versa :p
[05:55] <[BU] Brizz> Jabber doesn't do voice iirc
[05:55] <serenity> hi
[05:56] <JohnFlux> hi
[05:56] <JohnFlux> serenity: would you like a drink?
[05:57] <serenity> since i updated my fiefox to 1.5.0.4 it's buggy. FF freezes for probably 30 secs but without a reason and every 5 mins (approx.)
[05:57] <serenity> JohnFlux: take one of ur choice
[05:57] <JohnFlux> serenity: it didn't happen on a previous firefox?
[05:57] <serenity> no
[05:57] <skipster23> how can i watch windows media clips in firefox
[05:57] <serenity> just in the moment i updated
[05:58] <JohnFlux> serenity: usually I'd say it's dns problem, but doesn't sound like it in this case
[05:58] <v3ctor> skipster23: mozilla-mplayer
[05:58] <serenity> no, konqueror does the job fine
[05:58] <skipster23> thanks
[05:58] <serenity> and has the same dns setting
[05:58] <JohnFlux> skipster23: this is a 32-bit machine?
[05:58] <skipster23> yes
[05:58] <JohnFlux> skipster23: should be okay then
[06:00] <cox377> when i try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[06:01] <cox377> i tells me it's not installed
[06:01] <cox377> when i try and get it ussing
[06:01] <[BU] Brizz> in Ubuntu it's like xorg-xfree86 or something
[06:02] <cox377> ahh right
[06:02] <cox377> is that the same as kubuntu?
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:04] <serenity> John: another idea about ff?
[06:04] <JohnFlux> serenity: sorry none
[06:04] <cox377> xorg-xfree86
[06:04] <cox377> is that definatly is?>
[06:04] <cox377> it*
[06:07] <serenity> gonna re-install firefox
[06:08] <JohnFlux> serenity: I've never seen reinstalling work
[06:08] <JohnFlux> serenity: maybe wait a few days and just upgrade again
[06:10] <Vose> I restarted my PC and the k menu and bar at the bottom is gone? Anyone one know hot to get it back
[06:12] <DrBair> press alt-f2 to get the run dialog
[06:12] <DrBair> kicker
[06:19] <PhilHyde> Hey folks. Anyone care to answer an annoying KDE question?
[06:19] <v3ctor> we won;t know until you ask
[06:19] <PhilHyde> :)
[06:20] <v3ctor> then we will all pretend to be afk
[06:20] <PhilHyde> OK. When I upgraded from KDE3.4 in Breezy to 3.5 in Dapper, the behaviour of some programs changed, most notably Kate and Konversation:
[06:22] <PhilHyde> When invoked, they maintain one single process. In 3.4 they restored and gained focus when invoked. Now they just flash on the taskbar, but don't restore. Any idea how I can bring that behavior back?
[06:22] <Quick_silver> !de
[06:22] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[06:23] <Vose> DrBair I tryed the command kicker but nothing?
[06:23] <serenity> how to install a *.bin file?
[06:23] <palo> Let's say I have a folder which I contains code and cvs info, I recently set up a new cvs server and want to switch it over, but anytime I try to commit the changes to the new server, the info already present tries to commit it to the old one, is there any way to convert a cvs directory tree to a new repository, or do I have to go in manually and pull out the files I need?
[06:25] <DrBair> Vose: try running konsole and running kicker in there, see if it errors out
[06:25] <Raito> >	I'm getting a new computer (a laptop) what are the best things to take note of to make it compatible with Kubuntu very well? Also do I want intergrated graphics or seperate?
[06:25] <DrBair> serenity: have your hand on the googleearth beta?
[06:25] <serenity> Raito: try the live-cd
[06:25] <palo> DrBair, it's nice
[06:25] <Vose> kicker is already running!
[06:25] <serenity> DrBair: yes...mighty oracle
[06:26] <Vose> DrBair
[06:26] <Raito> no, I don't already have the computer, I am asking what kind of computer should I buy?
[06:26] <DrBair> serenity: lol, just make it executable and run it. Either as root or a user depending whether you want it installed system wide or just for you
[06:27] <Vose> gave me the error that it is already runing. DrBair
[06:27] <DrBair> Raito: the intel integrated video works good, so does nvidia. Stay far far away from ATI
[06:27] <DaSkreech> PhilHyde: I just use Alt+Ctrl=A
[06:27] <Vose> oh I found it slid to a small thing in the corrner? DrBair?
[06:27] <PhilHyde> DaSkreech: Use it to do what?
[06:27] <Raito> Thanks, anything else I should take note of?
[06:28] <serenity> Raito: check this linux-laptop.net
[06:28] <DrBair> Raito: wireless... atheros, ralink are nice
[06:28] <Raito> thanks, this is the perfect site
[06:29] <DaSkreech> PhilHyde: Any time a program flashes Alt+Ctrl+A will pop it up in focus
[06:29] <devlin> how long should it take to repartition a 80G drive during installation. Its supposedly has been at it for a while now but no drive light activity is  showing...
[06:30] <Raito> I know this isn't a general computer channel, but what is the difference between intergrated and seperate graphics?
[06:30] <devlin> built on the motherboard / not built on the motherboard
[06:30] <PhilHyde> Turns out I've mapped Ctrl+Alt+A to something else. Is there a setting for "restore when made active"?
[06:31] <DrBair> Raito: but its almost always built into the board on laptops
[06:31] <PhilHyde> Or something like that
[06:31] <Raito> ok, so there are no real disadvantages to having a built in graphics card as long as I get intel or Nvidia?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Yes there is
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Under Accesibilty (sp)
[06:32] <Raito> what is that?
[06:32] <elBarto> where do I chnge the list for grub?
[06:33] <DrBair> Raito: right... intels may be even better because the drivers are OSS
[06:33] <Raito> so with intel I basically don't need to install drivers because kubuntu has them automatically?
[06:34] <winbond> does anyone know hot to permanently set the mtu size so it doesnt reset on reboot?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> PhilHyde: Hello?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Found it>
[06:36] <v3ctor> winbond: there is an mtu option for the interfaces file..i think
[06:37] <v3ctor> man interfaces
[06:38] <DrBair> Raito: Right... and they're more likely to support emerging X stuff
[06:40] <winbond> v3ctor: can you tell me where the man interfaces are plz?
[06:41] <PhilHyde> DaSkreech: Sorry, AFK for a mo
[06:41] <v3ctor> open konsole and type man interfaces
[06:41] <weedar__> just type "man interfaces" in a console window winbond
[06:41] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:41] <PhilHyde> You say you've found it?
[06:42] <PhilHyde> Or were you asking me? Can't tell whether that ">" is meant to be "." or "?" up there.
[06:42] <winbond> weedar: ok ,ty
[06:45] <DaSkreech> ?
[06:45] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:46] <DaSkreech> PhilHyde: lt in KControl or System Settings under Regional and Accessibility
[06:46] <PhilHyde> DaSkreech: What is?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> The Keyboard Shortcut
[06:48] <DaSkreech> It's called Activate Window Demanding attention
[06:49] <PhilHyde> Ahh, I wasn't looking for a keyboard shortcut; I was looking for the option to make applications restore when invoked.
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Ah.. Ahm I'm not sure
[06:51] <DaSkreech> PhilHyde: Whats the issue again? You upgraded and what?
[06:52] <visik7> !pd
[06:52] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, visik7
[06:52] <PhilHyde> (re: Kate, Konversation) When invoked, they stay as one single process (for instance, I've mapped "start Kate" to Ctrl+Alt+K). In 3.4 they restored and gained focus when invoked in that way. Now they just flash on the taskbar, but don't restore. Any idea how I can bring that behavior back?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> ah ok
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Have you asked in #kde?
[06:53] <PhilHyde> Not yet. Suppose I should then :) Thanks!
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Sure :) Let me know what the fix is ok?
[06:54] <PhilHyde> Will do
[06:59] <lwizardl> what do i have to install so that transcode can convert videos to h.264 codec?
[07:00] <gallag_> Is there any program for neatly printing as many photos in as few pages as possible -- like the windows photo printing wizard?
[07:01] <gallag_> lwizardl: install ffmpeg, libxine-extracodecs
[07:01] <gallag_> lwizardl: I;m not /sure/ that will do it, bit it's worth a try
[07:01] <winbond> ....how can i completely remove kde a xserver and its deps and reinstall it from scratch?
[07:02] <leafw> how can one find out the screen resolution of a tty?
[07:02] <gallag_> winbond: why would you want to?
[07:02] <leafw> what is the correspondence of 1280x854 to vga=??? in the boot loader config file?
[07:02] <leafw> google is silent
[07:02] <gallag_> leafw: I do not know
[07:03] <BlankB> gallag_: I was looking for that the other day. The '
[07:03] <BlankB> gallag_: contact sheet' style stuff.
[07:03] <winbond> gallag_: because i was messing with xgl and everytime i shutdown pc it crashes
[07:04] <BlankB> gallag_: there is a progam with imagemagick called montage that may work for you.
[07:04] <gallag_> BlankB: good to know -- I;m not alone
[07:04] <gallag_> BlankB: ah-ha!
[07:04] <gallag_> BlankB: I'll look at that
[07:05] <dognews> hello
[07:06] <devlin-7> can anyone tell me why Kubuntu won't repartition my HD?  I have an 80G HD, only 5G's are used... I keep getting an error when I tell it to resize my partition saying "Failed to create enough space for installation.
[07:07] <dognews> I've got a problem with installing mencoder on my kubuntu system - I can't find a package with adept and nothing in any forums about it. Could anyone help me?
[07:07] <DaSkreech> winbond: You can do it from adept
[07:09] <winbond> DaSkreech: yeah , but i dont know which commands
[07:09] <DaSkreech> winbond: Just right click on the XGLserver and purge
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Anything that depends on it will be removed as well
[07:10] <winbond> DaSkreech: where is the purge option?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> winbond: right click on the package in adept
[07:11] <winbond> do you guys have apps fail to start sometimes? like the adept
[07:11] <kosh> winbond: nope
[07:12] <david> so, is there any way to get the window key to open the k menu?
[07:12] <leafw> !xgl
[07:12] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:12] <winbond> wird , happens a lot for me
[07:13] <dognews> winbond: I had a problem with adept starting too the other day - adept started again after having logged out and logged in the user again
[07:13] <[BU] Brizz> how do I change permission on a symbolic link?
[07:15] <PhilHyde> DaSkreech: The response was 20 minutes of silcence from over 250 people.
[07:15] <PhilHyde> *silence
[07:16] <DaSkreech> PhilHyde: You gotta expect that :) they are hard at work on breaking 3.5.3 :)
[07:16] <PhilHyde> Fair enough :)
[07:16] <[BU] Brizz> how do I change permission on a symbolic link?
[07:16] <david> so, is there a way to make the window key open the k menu?
[07:17] <[BU] Brizz> I tried chown but it just changed the file that was linked to
[07:17] <david> [BU] Brizz: did you try running "kdesu konqueror"
[07:18] <david> and then right clicking
[07:18] <david> and then messing with the permissions?
[07:20] <dognews> does anyone of you have mencoder on his system?
[07:20] <david> so, how come my icons won't line up to the grid on the desktop, even though i have the option checked?
[07:25] <winbond> so many questions so little time
[07:25] <david> so, how come my icons won't line up to the grid on the desktop, even though i have the option checked?
[07:26] <winbond> what is the best recent book on linux in general , not concentrating on any distro
[07:26] <Bazzi> winbond: you mean concentrating on the kernel? ;)
[07:26] <Bazzi> j/k
[07:26] <DrBair> david: doesn't do it here either
[07:29] <leninia> hola tengo una pregunta... no se instalar programas , me podeis ayudar
[07:29] <leninia> ??
[07:29] <DaSkreech> !tell leninia about es
[07:30] <DrBair> david: there is a fix for it if you are interested
[07:30] <bleaked_> so, perhaps i am doing something wrong, or looking in the wrong place, but i cannot find a feature i know exists.  when i ran debian (w/ kde) in konq there was an option to split the file browswer view into two, then embed konsole into one of the split views AND have both views link together.  (so when you would change directories, it would do the action on both views) -- was this not included with kubuntu, or is this a plug-in, or?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Can I get Amarok to filter on path names?
[07:34] <BlankB> bleaked_: is it in Konqueror ....view -> Split view?
[07:37] <DrBair> bleaked_: sounds cool, but i can't find it anywhere
[07:37] <BlankB> bleaked_: what distro where you running that had that?
[07:39] <bleaked_> BlankB: debian sid
[07:39] <bleaked_> like 5 months ago
[07:39] <bleaked_> seemed like a standard feature of konq
[07:40] <fyrmedic> Is there a good video editor that is in the repositories for Breezy
[07:40] <fyrmedic> ?
[07:40] <bleaked_> BlankB: DrBair: yea, it was in the konq, View | Split View menu
[07:40] <defrysk> kino
[07:40] <fyrmedic> ok I'll try it thankx
[07:40] <bleaked_> fyrmedic: still on breezy?
[07:41] <defrysk> bleaked_, its stil inthere
[07:41] <defrysk> bleaked_, vieuw split view
[07:41] <bleaked_> yea, i was making more of a general comment.. i hated breezy..dapper has it all..
[07:42] <bleaked_> defrysk: i don't see an option to embed konsole into one of the split views
[07:42] <winbond> what is a good recent book on linux in general , not concentrating on any distro
[07:42] <fyrmedic> yeah
[07:43] <bleaked_> winbond: if you're looking for just that, you'll only be addressing the linux kernel.  a distro-specific book is probably your only option.
[07:43] <bleaked_> i could be wrong though..
[07:44] <neoclix> www.neoclix.com
[07:44] <neoclix> www.neoclix.com
[07:44] <neoclix> www.neoclix.com
[07:44] <neoclix> www.neoclix.com
[07:44] <neoclix> www.neoclix.com
[07:44] <neoclix> www.neoclix.com
[07:44] <neoclix> www.neoclix.com
[07:44] <neoclix> www.neoclix.com
[07:44] <Mirno> this is spam I say
[07:44] <neoclix> no it is not a spam
[07:44] <bleaked_> neoclix: jerk.
[07:45] <neoclix> it is a good site
[07:45] <neoclix> created by me
[07:45] <neoclix> no virusez
[07:45] <neoclix> no spam
[07:45] <morrow> and no visitors
[07:45] <neoclix> i guarantee
[07:45] <winbond> bleaked_: well i looked at the ubuntu book and it was all nub stuff, i learned all that in windows
[07:45] <hybrid> neoclix: you may wana lo into the CoC
[07:45] <neoclix> it is with vizitors
[07:45] <defrysk> neoclix, you can get banned for this
[07:45] <defrysk> neoclix, so shush
[07:46] <neoclix> no problem i accept
[07:46] <neoclix> the bann
[07:46] <hybrid> neoclix: you may wanna look into the CoC
[07:46] <Mirno> neoclix: yes created by you, I'm sure, and you advertise it on an unrelated channel, this is unsolicited publicity, you channel spammer :p
[07:46] <neoclix> ok
[07:46] <neoclix> bye bye
[07:46] <Mirno> neoclix: and non sololy you spam, but you flood too :)
[07:47] <defrysk> that makes him a flammer
[07:47] <hybrid> lol
[07:48] <Escoro> hi, do anyone know any software for linux which would suport tracker downloading, like BitComet or utorrent on windows?
[07:48] <bleaked_> winbond: yea..  well to be honest i don't know of any books.  i learned linux purely by trial and error.. through my struggles and triumphs, forums, and mostly talking with these fools on irc, i just absorb it all over time.  for me, books are terrible at teaching technical things.. i enjoy novels :D  -- but yea, a lot of people benefit from them and so i'm sure some decent ones exist.. somewhere.   good luck.
[07:48] <bleaked_> Escoro: have you tried ktorrent?
[07:48] <defrysk> Escoro, ktorrent version 2
[07:48] <Escoro> ok thanks
[07:50] <bleaked_> defrysk: is that in the reps?
[07:50] <defrysk> the version one is in the repos
[07:51] <defrysk> bleaked_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188530 is the one i use , its better then the one in the repos
[07:53] <doktoreas> hi to all
[07:54] <bleaked_> lo
[07:54] <jaro> ok.. here is a question
[07:54] <DaSkreech> winbond: Check orielly.com
[07:54] <doktoreas> why i can get install package with pat-get
[07:54] <doktoreas> *apt-get
[07:54] <doktoreas> and with grphical tool i can't found anything?
[07:54] <jaro> I have got a problem with the firmware of my Cinergy Terratec Hybrid XS  USB device
[07:55] <DaSkreech> doktoreas: Can you ask that again in a different way?
[07:55] <doktoreas> using graphical tool can't found any package to install
[07:55] <doktoreas> using apt-get it's ok...
[07:57] <DaSkreech> doktoreas: There are no packages in adept?
[07:59] <doktoreas> DaSkreech: the default one yes
[07:59] <doktoreas> but search one doesn't work
[07:59] <doktoreas> for example mozilla is not found
[07:59] <LiteHedded> can someone help me with my ati problem?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> doktoreas: It sometimes takes a little while for the filter to sort
[08:00] <DaSkreech> How long have you waited?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> !ask
[08:00] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:00] <doktoreas> a lot
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Have you removed any of the checkboxes under the search bar
[08:01] <DaSkreech> or are they all still checked?
[08:01] <LiteHedded> I did ask
[08:01] <LiteHedded> but allow me to expand
[08:01] <LiteHedded> my ati isn't working after following the install instructions on the wiki
[08:02] <LiteHedded> still shows the mesa driver
[08:03] <LiteHedded> no one?
[08:05] <LiteHedded> see this is why I ask if anyone can help without taking the time to explain the issue in detail.
[08:06] <DrBair> LiteHedded: The question was a bit vague
[08:07] <LiteHedded> well I try and guage interest in a channel befoe taking the time to go into detail
[08:09] <DaSkreech> LiteHedded: Have you tried in #ubuntu-xgl?
[08:09] <DaSkreech> They are much more likely to have the ATI Drivers :-) so they might have better fixes
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Make it clear that you are not XGelling though
[08:10] <woxxy> hi all :DD
[08:10] <LiteHedded> no didn't know about that channel i'll try it
[08:10] <LiteHedded> thnx!
[08:11] <ecker> Where can i get the exact  HorizSync / VertRefresh for my IBM thinkpad laptop, I googled and googled
[08:15] <mindspit> i want to add more sources to install other (more than standar) packets to kubuntu
[08:15] <mindspit> can i ?
[08:15] <mindspit> i guess i need apt
[08:15] <mindspit> ap-get installation sources
[08:16] <crimsun_> mindspit: sure, but it's not recommended because we're not necessarily binary-compatible
[08:16] <hybrid> mindspit: what are you adding?
[08:16] <mindspit> for example i need mup or mc to be installed
[08:16] <mindspit> mc mainy
[08:16] <crimsun_> mc as in midnight command?
[08:16] <crimsun_> +er
[08:16] <mindspit> sudo apt-get install mc
[08:16] <mindspit> yes thats right!
[08:17] <bleaked_> so why is there no Window menu in konq?
[08:17] <crimsun_> right, that's in universe. Just enable that.
[08:17] <crimsun_> !info mc
[08:17] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 2073 kB, Installed size: 5952 kB
[08:17] <bleaked_> was it taken out in the kubuntu profile?
[08:17] <mindspit> but i really want a command prompt tool like mc
[08:18] <DaSkreech> bleaked_: Huh?
[08:19] <LiteHedded> NoUse: are you in #flood?
[08:20] <CaBlGuY> !enlightenment
[08:20] <ubotu> I heard enlightenment is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155
[08:21] <mindspit> so is there an easy way to get those unstable (not necessarily binary-compatible) ... can i get such an apt-get installation source ?
[08:21] <mindspit> do you know any?
[08:24] <bleaked_> DaSkreech: in konqueror, on every kde distro i have ever used, there is a Window menu (part of the main toolbar)
[08:24] <bleaked_> DaSkreech: it has quite a few VERY useful features that are no longer accessible..
[08:30] <bleaked_> so does anyone have a Window menu in konqueror?
[08:30] <bleaked_> i feel like i'm going insane.
[08:31] <fek> window menu?
[08:31] <fek> wtf?
[08:31] <fek> ubuntu isn't windows :P
[08:32] <nixternal`2go> that would be Kubuntu isn't windows ;p
[08:32] <nixternal`2go> although i shouldn't talk since im on my laptop which is ubuntu ;(
[08:33] <hybrid> nixternal`2go: imbrandon like Kubuntu like Windows
[08:34] <bleaked_> fek: obviously, but in EVERY install of kde i have ever used, konqueror has a "Window" menu.  this is standard.. even the kde docs talk about it.
[08:34] <fek> bleaked_: you mean a setup-assistent?
[08:34] <bleaked_> what?
[08:34] <bleaked_> no, in konqueror
[08:34] <fek> bleaked_: don't understand what you excatly mean
[08:34] <fek> do you have any screenshots?
[08:35] <bleaked_> sure, this one guy over in #debian-kde took one for me..
[08:35] <bleaked_> one sec
[08:35] <fek> ok
[08:37] <bleaked_> http://img391.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot39na.png  Now look at the konq window on the bottom right, it has a Window menu, with the split view options (now located in the View menu in kubuntu..why??) and it has the "Show Terminal Emulator" option -- basically you can split your file browswer views, link them, and embed konsole in one of them.. it's great and it's missing in kubuntu.
[08:38] <bleaked_> i think this might have to do with the kubuntu file browser profile
[08:38] <fek> ah, i understand
[08:38] <bleaked_> but still, i'm having a hard time finding the terminal emulator feature anywhere.
[08:38] <fek> where you can cascade or sort windows
[08:39] <fek> bleaked_: perhaps you don't have this menu, because your konuqueror supports tabbing
[08:39] <fek> and perhapsp if you are able to deactivate this support, you get the menu back
[08:39] <bleaked_> what does that have anything to do with it?
[08:39] <fek> because with tabbing, thins menu is senseless
[08:39] <mindspit> i need a comand prompt command to install w32codecs
[08:39] <fek> mindspit: alt+f2 -> konsole
[08:39] <mindspit> i downloaded w32codecs
[08:40] <fek> or xterm or whatever
[08:40] <bleaked_> mindspit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:40] <mindspit> ok
[08:40] <mindspit> ok
[08:41] <fek> bleaked_: don't find any option concerning the tabbing behaviour :(
[08:41] <bleaked_> i want to cry
[08:41] <bleaked_> i've been asking around for weeks now
[08:41] <bleaked_> every distro just has it
[08:42] <bleaked_> kubuntu people are clueless..
[08:42] <bleaked_> they've never heard of it
[08:42] <bleaked_> and i show them this screenshot and they're baffled
[08:42] <fek> bleaked_: calm down, dude :)
[08:42] <bleaked_> i'm alright..sorry
[08:42] <fek> bleaked_: hear to joda ;)
[08:43] <mindspit> UBUNTU is powerfull! i loved it ... i !!!!was!!! a SuSE user!
[08:43] <bleaked_> it's just frustrating using debian for years and having such a basic feature..then going to another kde-based distro and no one's heard of the feature.
[08:44] <fek> bleaked_: could you ask the debian-guy please, if his konqueror supports tabbing?
[08:44] <apokryphos> mindspit: welcome :)
[08:44] <fek> mindspit: you used therefore a linux without any bash?
[08:45] <bleaked_> fek: you can see in that screenshot an option to open a new tab.
[08:45] <fek> bleaked_: correct. hmm
[08:45] <fek> confusing
[08:45] <fek> bleaked_: can't belive, that this is a configure option
[08:46] <DaSkreech> bleaked_: have you tried Ctrl+Shift+T?
[08:47] <fek> DaSkreech: what should that do?
[08:47] <DaSkreech> Split the window
[08:47] <DaSkreech> Horizontally
[08:47] <Lpadmin> Are there any programs for Linux that can open .dwg files?
[08:47] <DarkRavenMixage> how can i assign the ed2k protocol to amule, to assign ed2k links to amule directly?
[08:47] <DaSkreech> I don't know if he wants it vertically
[08:48] <fek> bleaked_: i am sorry, can't help you :(
[08:48] <bleaked_> yargh..
[08:48] <bleaked_> i figured it out.
[08:48] <DaSkreech> bleaked_: Ctrl+Shift+t works?
[08:49] <bleaked_> i added the Show Terminal Emulator button through the toolbar config
[08:49] <bleaked_> DaSkreech: no, does nothing
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Which KDE are you using?
[08:49] <winbond> does anyone have the xgl working on the kde with ati x800 card?
[08:50] <bleaked_> when i was looking in the list for that button, i was looking under the 'T's, since i did not know it was "Show Terminal.."
[08:50] <bleaked_> DaSkreech: 3.5.2
[08:50] <DaSkreech> !tell winbond about XGL
[08:50] <bleaked_> this feature is such an asset, i cannot believe the default profile would hide it.
[08:51] <bleaked_> tell me about xgl, i need some good links :D
[08:51] <winbond> DaSkreech: i red the guides , can get it to work
[08:51] <winbond> read
[08:51] <bleaked_> !tell bleaked about XGL
[08:52] <DaSkreech> winbond: I meant the Channel :)
[08:52] <DaSkreech> they can help more than  most here can
[08:52] <winbond> DaSkreech: ok , ty , channel is dead tho
[08:52] <DaSkreech> ?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> oh no one responds :)
[08:53] <DaSkreech> bleaked_: Does Ctrl+Shift+L do anything?
[08:53] <MikeMcA_> Hi.  I've just installed kubuntu on my laptop.  It's working great except for suspend - when reactivating after a suspend I hear the drives spin up and the fan turn on, but the screen stays black.  Any idea how to fix?  Thanks!
[08:53] <jfarrell> hey all
[08:53] <CaBlGuY> !jasper
[08:53] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[08:53] <jfarrell> where is the KDE directory by default
[08:53] <jfarrell> i am trying to install kdiff3
[08:53] <DrBair> MikeMcA_: What video driver?
[08:54] <jfarrell> and it want me to speficy the kde directory, where is it at by default?
[08:54] <MikeMcA_> erm, not sure.  It's a dell inspiron 5160.
[08:55] <jfarrell> anyone
[08:57] <bleaked_> DaSkreech: yea, they both work.. i was doing ctrl-alt
[08:57] <DaSkreech> bleaked_: Oh phew
[08:57] <DaSkreech> I was getting Worried
[08:57] <bleaked_> DaSkreech: i'm going to go drink some tea and calm down before i lose it.
[08:58] <DaSkreech> To close a view use Ctrl+Shift+R
[08:58] <jfarrell> where is the KDE directory by default
[08:58] <bleaked_> or at least delve into any more projects
[08:58] <DaSkreech> bleaked_: Cheers!
[08:58] <bleaked_> :D
[08:58] <bleaked_> jfarrell: well, what kde directory are you talking about..there are many..
[08:58] <bleaked_> for settings, or actual kde components?
[08:59] <jfarrell> bleaked_: i am trying to install kdiff3
[08:59] <jfarrell> it just jsays, give the path of your kde3 directory
[08:59] <bleaked_> jfarrell: it's in the repos
[08:59] <bleaked_> sudo aptitude install kdiff3
[09:00] <jfarrell> bleaked_: how do i run it then
[09:00] <DrBair> MikeMcA_: try changing to vt6 by pressing ctrl-alt-f6, then go to root by 'sudo -s' then sleeping by 'echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep' when you wake it up again press ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to X
[09:00] <darkfusion> hey i'm having trouble getting samba to reconize my password in windows
[09:00] <jfarrell> kdiff3 at the commandline doesnt work
[09:01] <jfarrell> and i dont see it in the menu
[09:01] <darkfusion> i have made the username with smbpasswd
[09:01] <DaSkreech> Alrighty
[09:01] <DaSkreech> Amarok is flying through my files
[09:01] <CaBlGuY> darkfusion: y are u corrupting samba with winblowz??  :-O
[09:02] <JavaGeek> does dapper have ntfs read-write support?
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Read support
[09:02] <darkfusion> because winblowz works
[09:02] <CaBlGuY> JavaGeek:  nope.. but, u can read and use files..
[09:02] <jfarrell> bleaked_: can you think of anything
[09:02] <CaBlGuY> darkfusion:  RiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIiiiiight..   ;)
[09:02] <JavaGeek> damn...
[09:02] <CaBlGuY> JavaGeek:  yea, that's what I said.. :/
[09:03] <darkfusion> i just made a ubuntu headless server so i wanted to transfer my music and other things to it from windows
[09:03] <CaBlGuY> JavaGeek:  I'm sure eventually someone with throw a package together that will support that but, no one has thus far..
[09:04] <DaSkreech> darkfusion: I normally just use SSH
[09:04] <jfarrell> bleaked_: it says teh same thign apt-get says
[09:04] <CaBlGuY> darkfusion: so, just network the coputers and transfer that way...
[09:04] <jfarrell> kdiff3 does not exist
[09:04] <darkfusion> but what if I wanna play the music or video from this windows machine ?
[09:05] <CaBlGuY> darkfusion:  then just copy the files, don't move them...
[09:05] <DaSkreech> jfarrell: Do you have universe enabled?
[09:05] <patch> hello all. would anyone be able to help me on a seriousl problem?
[09:05] <jfarrell> DaSkreech: being as i have no idea what thtat is, i am gonna say no :)
[09:05] <apokryphos> !helpme
[09:05] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[09:05] <bleaked_> jfarrell: yea, you need to enabled the universe repositories..then it will install.
[09:05] <DaSkreech> !tell jfarrell about sources
[09:06] <DaSkreech> !tell jfarrell about universe
[09:06] <CaBlGuY> serial???  :-O    yea, yur not post to eat it close to your keyboard..  ;)
[09:06] <patch> ok ok. just checking this was active.
[09:06] <patch> basically i tried to upgrade from breezy to dapper
[09:06] <bleaked_> jfarrell: this will help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:06] <patch> using synaptic and just updating the repositorys
[09:06] <DaSkreech> NOOOOooooo...... >poof<
[09:06] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[09:06] <CaBlGuY> patch:  ok..
[09:07] <patch> and now my install doesnt work
[09:07] <CaBlGuY> ahhh   well, can u log in at all??
[09:07] <bleaked_> i truly wish all of the ubuntu guides, docs, etc, would recommend aptitude over apt-get -- it will really save a lot of people if they mess up their system.
[09:07] <patch> i can run the debug mode. i.e. command line
[09:08] <patch> and i have and i looked again at my repository list and it turned out i seemed to not have change one of the sources
[09:08] <patch> but i changed that and then tried apt-get
[09:08] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm  well, only thing I can suggest is download Ubuntu base and install clean and go from there...
[09:09] <alex__> anyone have a recommedation between NFS and samba?
[09:09] <DaSkreech> lnxKDE: Good three hours sleep?
[09:09] <patch> the only thing i can think of, when looking back is that if i didnt use sudo on the exact command would apt-get not work properly
[09:09] <lnxKDE> DaSkreech : well somehow..
[09:09] <patch> im not sure whether sudo will 'stay' working on commands after it is used
[09:10] <lnxKDE> then when I got home about 10am
[09:10] <CaBlGuY> patch:  your not the first one who has come in here with problems after doing an upgrade from breezey to Dapper..
[09:10] <lnxKDE> I went strait to bed and now I got up
[09:10] <patch> it is possibly the log in screen
[09:10] <bleaked_> patch: generally it does.. i think it has a idle timeout
[09:10] <lnxKDE> so I slept 5 hrs more :)
[09:10] <devlin-7> help needed with repartitioning... its driving me mad
[09:10] <hybrid> devlin-7: whats up?
[09:10] <alex__> anyone have networking experience?
[09:10] <CaBlGuY> patch: bout the only thing I could suggest other then what I already did is to hang out and see if another person would be able to help you unfybar your install...
[09:10] <bleaked_> devlin-7: ask questions, not for help.
[09:10] <nixternal`2go> whats up alex__
[09:11] <CaBlGuY> *unfubar
[09:11] <alex__> hey, i was just looking for a recommendation between NFS and samba
[09:11] <nixternal`2go> for?
[09:11] <lnxKDE> DaSkreech : u liked the post?
[09:11] <patch> becasue when i run it normally i get the first part of the boot is fine. but then after all the first stuff it just freezes on the splash screen
[09:11] <DaSkreech> Yes :-)
[09:11] <nixternal`2go> unix to unix?  something simple?   want to communicate with windows also?
[09:12] <bleaked_> alex__: well, if a windows machine is involved, your only choice is samba.. if anything else, go nfs
[09:12] <alex__> i'm trying to network two ubuntu systems
[09:12] <alex__> ones breezy and the others dapper
[09:12] <nixternal`2go> nfs
[09:12] <CaBlGuY> patch:  like I said, your not the first...
[09:12] <lnxKDE> :)
[09:12] <nixternal`2go> unix to unix use nfs...a little more extreme..however samba is whicked easy to setup
[09:12] <alex__> is it pretty complex or straight forward?
[09:12] <CaBlGuY> !breezy upgrade
[09:12] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[09:12] <CaBlGuY> !upgrade
[09:12] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[09:12] <nixternal`2go> nfs is complex...samba is straight forward
[09:12] <alex__> so what's the benefit of nfs over samba?
[09:13] <CaBlGuY> patch:  try lookin there..
[09:13] <CaBlGuY> might help
[09:13] <MikeMcA_> DrBair: Same result.  System went into standby, I woke it up, screen stayed black.  pressing ctl-alt-F7 had no visible effect.
[09:13] <bleaked_> nixternal`2go: pff..right...
[09:13] <alex__> pretty much all i want to network is my media files
[09:13] <MikeMcA_> DrBair: my graphics card is an XGI Volari-XP5.
[09:13] <nixternal`2go> bleaked_: ?
[09:13] <patch> thanks. i will go and see what i can do. thanks again.
[09:13] <patch> bye
[09:13] <snedar> hi! is there a way to enable kde's composite manager without restarting kde? I've already set the Composite option in xorg.conf and xcompmgr works, but when I use kde's Window Behavior panel it doesn't work immediately
[09:13] <kkathman> alex__:  use samba if you have windows boxes in your net, otherwise use nfs :)
[09:13] <CaBlGuY> patch:  NP good liuck..  ;)
[09:14] <nixternal`2go> everyone has their perferences..but unless you understand the auto.home and what not...you could do more harm then good with nfs
[09:14] <alex__> ok, i'll go with nfs, thanks for the advice
[09:14] <nixternal`2go> samba just works..and is perfect for simple things
[09:14] <kkathman> nixternal`2go: zackly
[09:14] <nixternal`2go> nfs you can mount your network shares and treat them like local drives
[09:14] <devlin-7> can anyone tell me what is keeping the installer from repartioning my drive. I have plenty of free space but it keeps erroring out saying "Failed to create enough space for installation"
[09:14] <th0m4s> oh man bsod in the restore partition :(
[09:14] <EvilIdler> I'm using Samba drives like local drives, too
[09:15] <alex__> i just want to access my media, so should i use samba for its accessability?
[09:15] <kkathman> nixternal`2go:  you can mount samba shares too
[09:15] <nixternal`2go> EvilIdler: as i am too
[09:15] <kkathman> on both sides :)
[09:15] <bleaked_> th0m4s: :\
[09:15] <EvilIdler> For the non-technical, Samba is recommended. For a more unixy system, probably NFS
[09:15] <th0m4s> bleaked_: i want to have both os's installed because it is a laptop
[09:15] <kkathman> although Im not sure why you'd mounth them.. they can be queried direct
[09:15] <nixternal`2go> th0m4s: vmware
[09:15] <EvilIdler> I can never get permissions to be handled properly with Samba, but I do a bit of cross-platform work, so it's needed :/
[09:16] <th0m4s> nixternal`2go: i just said it's a laptop do you honestly think
[09:16] <th0m4s> number 1: 200 dollar program
[09:16] <th0m4s> number 2: laptop cpu
[09:16] <nixternal`2go> vmware = free for linux
[09:16] <kkathman> EvilIdler:  ahh thats an easy issue to fix tho
[09:16] <nixternal`2go> vmware = running perfectly fine on my laptop right now
[09:16] <th0m4s> ?????
[09:16] <kkathman> follow the wiki...its very simple
[09:16] <bleaked_> th0m4s: well, windows does not play nice with other OSs, so install windows, then *ubuntu over it.
[09:16] <bleaked_> well, not "over" it, but after it.
[09:16] <nixternal`2go> th0m4s: you can download all vmware software for Linux from their site for free
[09:16] <th0m4s> huh
[09:16] <nixternal`2go> also, vmware is in the repositories
[09:17] <EvilIdler> kkathman: Yeah, I'll have to look into it. I don't want to show dotfiles, because I have so many and scroll two pages before I get to my sourcecode directory ;)
[09:17] <th0m4s> aww craps
[09:17] <nixternal`2go> im running vmware on every one of my computers here and i haven't paid for any of them..i registered them with vmware and everything too
[09:17] <kkathman> EvilIdler: you can do that
[09:17] <th0m4s> i fixed the video yesterday to get the correct resolution and now it's reverted back to 800x600
[09:17] <EvilIdler> Then all my sourcecode gets execute flags
[09:17] <kkathman> Ive been sharing multiple Linux and win boxes for several years w/samba..no problems
[09:17] <EvilIdler> kkathman: I know the option is there in SWAT, but it's not doing anything. So many options, so little patience :P
[09:17] <DaSkreech> Woah
[09:17] <kkathman> lol
[09:17] <kkathman> understand
[09:17] <th0m4s> hjalp!
[09:18] <DaSkreech> How do I release my audio device?
[09:18] <kkathman> not that hard tho
[09:18] <EvilIdler> Supposedly not, although my Samba config is set to hide dotfiles, but isn't doing it :P
[09:18] <DaSkreech> Just got an error all Audio Drivers failed to initialize
[09:19] <JavaGeek> CaBlGuY: maybe this will work... http://ubuntuos.com/2006/05/readwrite-ntfs-partitions
[09:19] <th0m4s> must i run 855resolution every time i reboot?
[09:19] <bleaked_> EvilIdler: i would ditch swat, and use the kde embedded samba config in the System Settings
[09:19] <kkathman> EvilIdler:  one easy way, is just not to share those directories,  pick and choose what you want to share
[09:20] <EvilIdler> bleaked_: Yeah, but I move around between computers so much :)
[09:20] <kkathman> do that in Konq.. or at the CLI
[09:20] <EvilIdler> I'll go back to plain, old smb.conf editing. Only way to have full control :)
[09:20] <kkathman> well there's something to be said over sharing everything
[09:20] <th0m4s> ok here's a question
[09:21] <th0m4s> if when i reboot my system loses the video bios that says the screen can indeed handle 1280x768
[09:21] <th0m4s> is there a way to add 855resolution to the boot process?
[09:21] <th0m4s> like, before x comes up?
[09:21] <EvilIdler> Samba/NFS worries later. Food now.
[09:21] <dm> Hello. I installed kubuntu 6.06 and have a problem with Konqueror and its interpretation of encodings. Is this the right place to get some help?
[09:21] <betty> is this the technical support?
[09:21] <th0m4s> sometimes
[09:21] <Tiv> thomas: look in /etc/default/855resolution
[09:22] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:22] <nixternal`2go> betty: yes this is
[09:22] <devlin-7> can anyone tell me what is keeping the Kubuntu installer from repartioning my drive?
[09:22] <th0m4s> Tiv: no such file/folder
[09:22] <nixternal`2go> devlin-7: are you using text install or LiveCD?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> If anyone knows how to reset Audio drivers ping me
[09:23] <betty> there is a application that is called connect to groovix technical support and i am trying to click on that but it asks me for a number and then stops
[09:23] <nixternal`2go> DaSkreech: devmod??? i can't remember off hand
[09:23] <devlin-7> didn't see a choice to do a text install... all I saw was the choice to "Run/Install Kubuntu"
[09:23] <nixternal`2go> remmod
[09:23] <nixternal`2go> i forgot
[09:23] <Tiv> thomas: or try 915resolution
[09:23] <lnxKDE> DaSkreech : 3rd post our :(
[09:24] <nixternal`2go> ok devlin-7 that is the text install cd then..as it didn't boot into Kubuntu Live
[09:24] <th0m4s> Tiv: the one adept wants me to install?
[09:24] <Tiv> thomas: yes!
[09:24] <DaSkreech> nixternal`2go: Something mod?
[09:24] <th0m4s> is that an excited yes or an exhasperated yes
[09:24] <Tiv> thomas: works fine with i9xx chipsets
[09:25] <th0m4s> yes buti have an 855 chipset
[09:25] <devlin-7> ? I am currently in the live CD..
[09:25] <nixternal`2go> DaSkreech: yes, i just can't remember...i had to do it once upon a time..and now i can't remember
[09:25] <Tiv> thomas: should work anyway, have a look in the description
[09:25] <nixternal`2go> i unloaded the driver, and then loaded it to fix an issue or to apply a patch live
[09:25] <th0m4s> it's installed is it the exact same usage as 855 or different
[09:26] <Tiv> thomas: same usage
[09:26] <nixternal`2go> devlin-7: are you getting any errors at all?
[09:26] <Tiv> thomas: you should have a file /etc/default/915resolution
[09:26] <th0m4s> Tiv: well in 915 it lists the modes just fine, are you suggesting i 'set' the mode again ?
[09:27] <devlin-7> nixternal: the only error I am getting is upon repartitioning it stops with an error stating "Failed to create enough space for installation"
[09:28] <nixternal`2go> are you manually doing your partitions or are you letting Kubuntu do the partitions?
[09:28] <Tiv> thomas: set mode to auto and x y resolution
[09:28] <devlin-7> tried both ways... both generate the same erro
[09:28] <Tiv> thomas: have a look in /etc/rc2.d/ if start skript for 915resolution exists
[09:29] <th0m4s> wait wait wait
[09:29] <th0m4s> set mode to both automatic AND defined?
[09:29] <nixternal`2go> are you dual booting devlin-7 ?
[09:30] <Tiv> thomas:yes,  mode is not the resolution
[09:31] <devlin-7> I would like too. Its the wifes PC. She is finally willing to try linux but under the condition that she can still access her windows as needed. I didn't have this prob. installing on my pc
[09:31] <th0m4s> devlin-7: vmware
[09:31] <Schaden|Amok> hi
[09:31] <mindspit> i can not "see" my "qcam 330 usb pc camera" from linux ... what can i do?
[09:32] <Hoobly> anyone know how to get smb4k working in Dapper?  It worked fine in Breezy and now I get "The account was disabled." error messages
[09:32] <th0m4s> Tiv: S12915resolution is in rc2.d
[09:33] <nixternal`2go> devlin-7: i have to agree with th0m4s in this situation, as most wives will tend to reject it..however...if you want dual boot then go that way
[09:33] <th0m4s> i'm going to reboot and see if it worked
[09:33] <Tiv> thomas: fine, if /etc/default/915resolution is set correct it should work after a reboot
[09:34] <Tiv> mindspit: modprobe quickcam
[09:35] <devlin-7> I would dual boot... but I can't get Kubuntu installed until I can get the partition resized and a Kubuntu partition created
[09:35] <betty> my aim screenname is bttymyn
[09:35] <tortho_> anyone who knows wat package that does the automount of memory sticks under kde/konqueror it stopped working after ann upgrade from breezy to dapper
[09:37] <nixternal`2go> hey devlin-7 let me ask one of the other guys if they have seen that error, as I can't even locate anything about it
[09:37] <betty> i don't know how to get support
[09:38] <devlin-7> would greatly appricate it. its driving me crazy. Never had this happen on any other PC.
[09:39] <nixternal`2go> i haven't seen this problem at all myself
[09:39] <uniq> tortho_: make sure you've got the 'kubuntu-desktop' package installed, then a complete kubuntu desktop system will be installed.
[09:39] <nixternal`2go> i asked the dev's if they have seen it, now i am just waiting for a response
[09:40] <tortho_> uniq: i'll tell my frind (the one who cant manage to get it work)
[09:40] <JavaGeek> CaBlGuY: and it works!
[09:41] <uniq> tortho_: please do. :)
[09:41] <devlin-7> nixternal: I was thinking it was the drive until I realized its the same make & model as the one in my PC.
[09:41] <ChefWill> whats up with all the broken icons when i installed kubuntu desktop :(
[09:41] <nixternal`2go> devlin-7: how much space are you allocating by the way?
[09:41] <nixternal`2go> i seen in ubuntu earlier you said you have 5 gb used, wanted to use 40gb
[09:42] <nixternal`2go> out of an 80gb drive
[09:42] <devlin-7> nixternal: It's an 80G drive and I am allocating 39.5G
[09:42] <nixternal`2go> devlin-7: you are the only google issue also with the error you get
[09:42] <tortho_> uniq: i know there is a gnome-volume-manager under gnome, so i guess there is one similar for kde
[09:43] <devlin-7> lol, it figures....
[09:44] <nixternal`2go> see...i use text installs...and i setup my swap at 3x my mem at the end of the drive...and then i create all my partitions
[09:45] <nixternal`2go> for instance..my lappy im on right now...768mb swap @ end of the drive...128mb /boot @ beginning...4.5gb / @ beginning....4.5+gb /home @ beginning
[09:45] <devlin-7> with the Kubuntu 6.06 Desktop CD how do you get to a text install?
[09:46] <nixternal`2go> i don't know how to on the live cd..i have yet to boot it up...but it looks as i need to so i can be familiar with it
[09:46] <nixternal`2go> from what i heard though the live cd and qtparted is great for dual booting...i just haven't tried..plus i don't dual boot
[09:47] <devlin-7> the only installers I saw on the site were the Desktop, server, and alternate iso's
[09:47] <nixternal`2go> alternate = text install
[09:47] <nixternal`2go> i got to remember to call it alternate from now on too...as i tend to confuse people ;)
[09:48] <nixternal`2go> Brazil 1 - Croatia 0
[09:48] <devlin-7> are you kidding me? I understood that to be just for ppl upgrading from Breezy so I didn't d/l that one
[09:48] <nixternal`2go> lol devlin-7
[09:48] <nixternal`2go> i used the alternate disk to install all of my setups
[09:49] <ryanakca> what do I use to burn iso? cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
[09:49] <nixternal`2go> k3b
[09:49] <nixternal`2go> ryanakca: k3b
[09:49] <nixternal`2go> it is awesome
[09:49] <nixternal`2go> i used to be a nero freak but k3b ownz it
[09:49] <devlin-7> well... looks like I'm going on my other pc for a sec and start a 2 hour affair with a server to d/l that iso lol
[09:49] <nixternal`2go> 2 hours?
[09:49] <nixternal`2go> don't have cable or dsl?
[09:50] <devlin-7> yep... pokey 768k down DSL... I'm cheap lol
[09:50] <nixternal`2go> i believe when you boot also with the live cd..press f6 twice and do expert install
[09:50] <kyle_> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH???
[09:50] <nixternal`2go> that will give you the text install options i beleive
[09:50] <uniq> tortho_: yes there is, it's a KDED module. you can check that it's enabled at system settings -> kde resources -> system services - under "startup services" you can find KDED Media Manager. Make sure the "Use" box is ticked. (menus and names are translated on the fly from norwegian, i might have used other words than the ones in the english menus).
[09:50] <nixternal`2go> kyle_: what are you configuring?
[09:51] <Tiv> kyle_:install gcc
[09:51] <kyle_> nixternal`2go: ktorrent2.0
[09:51] <devlin-7> nixternal: do that at the preboot menu or after the live cd loads?
[09:51] <nixternal`2go> hmmm...i thought ktorrent2.0 was in the repositories
[09:51] <ryanakca> nixternal`2go: k3b uses cdrecord...
[09:51] <nixternal`2go> preboot menu devlin-7
[09:51] <uniq> kyle_: install the "build-essential" package, and for KDE apps "kdelibs4-dev" is needed too.
[09:52] <nixternal`2go> ryanakca: what is wrong with that?
[09:52] <kyle_> Tiv: says it's already installed gcc-4.0-base is already the newest version.
[09:52] <devlin-7> will try that now. Thanks will let you know if it helped :)
[09:52] <nixternal`2go> i use it and have no issues what so ever
[09:52] <nixternal`2go> k devlin-7 good luck
[09:52] <devlin-7> will need it lol
[09:52] <nixternal`2go> hehe
[09:52] <SeanTater> does SSH support AES?
[09:52] <gretch68> hi all
[09:52] <Tiv> kyle_ why don't you install ktorrent with adept or apt-get
[09:52] <nixternal`2go> need to force her to use Linux anyways ;)
[09:53] <tortho_> uniq: takk skal du ha, du kunne spart oversettelsen :-)
[09:53] <nixternal`2go> SeanTater: yes
[09:53] <uniq> tortho_: flott :)
[09:53] <steve343> hi all
[09:53] <nixternal`2go> it uses AES-128, AES-192, AES-256....
[09:53] <nixternal`2go> hey steve343
[09:53] <kyle_> Tiv: Because it uses 1.2 and i want 2.0? :P unless you know a source to add that has the newer one?
[09:54] <ryanakca> nixternal`2go: k3b uses cdrecord... http://pastebin.com/707213
[09:54] <bleaked_> kyle_: yea, there's a howto in the forums
[09:54] <SeanTater> nixternal: is it default? Does it make (or is it even possible to make) aes keys?
[09:54] <tortho_> uniq: #ubuntu-norge?
[09:54] <uniq> tortho_: #ubuntu-no
[09:54] <tortho_> uniq ehh-ja..
[09:54] <ChefWill> is there a "Take Screenshot" app equivalent in kde?
[09:54] <uniq> chefwill: yes, ksnapshot
[09:54] <luksan> ChefWill: yeah, it's called PrintScreen
[09:54] <bleaked_> kyle_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188530
[09:55] <Tiv> kyle_ try with gcc-3.4 sometimes it won't work with gcc-4.0
[09:55] <nixternal`2go> SeanTater: i don't know about default...but i know it is in openssh and that you can create keys..howto go about creating them i don't know
[09:55] <nixternal`2go> you check out http://www.openssh.com and see if they have a howto?
[09:55] <uniq> seantater: a hint might be the '-c' switch.
[09:55] <Tiv> kyle_: do a "which gcc" on the cli
[09:55] <nixternal`2go> i just used an openssh howto to create keys the other day from somewhere actually
[09:56] <bleaked_> ChefWill: for future reference, i always run: apt-cache search <search query here>
[09:56] <SeanTater> nixternal: I looked there for a while to no avail, but I'll look some more..
[09:56] <steve343> please dont turn this into a flame war but i use maxathon on windows and am looking for a similarly feature rich browser on linux, which is the "best" for my needs ?
[09:56] <kyle_> i got it :D it was just having probems over writing some shared files
[09:56] <bleaked_> ChefWill: i also set up a bash alias to make it easier.. so i just type in, 'seek screenshot' and i get a list of available apps that take screenshots. :D
[09:56] <nixternal`2go> i might have found a how-to on the forums or the wiki..i can't remember..but yes the -c switch is what you would use > openssh -c --help might get some more options
[09:56] <ChefWill> :P
[09:57] <SeanTater> uniq: ssh says Unknown cipher type 'aes' (same for aes128)
[09:57] <kyle_> --force-overwrite
[09:57] <ChefWill> i just installed kubuntu desktop and there are wayyyyyyyy too many programs trying to sort them
[09:57] <Tiv> kyle_: package conflict????
[09:57] <SeanTater> nixternal: ssh says Unknown cipher type 'aes' (same for aes128)
[09:57] <nixternal`2go> AES-128?
[09:57] <defrysk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188530 is the ktorrent i use , its better then the one in the repos
[09:57] <defrysk> and its a .deb
[09:58] <nixternal`2go> ryanakca: what cd burner are you using?  have you recently recompiled your own kernel?
[09:58] <bleaked_> ChefWill: it's just really nice.. espcially for linux.. like i need a cd ripping app, you can just search that and see a nice list and just choose one.  if i'm ever unsure, i do a web search for the app name and decide if i like it.
[09:58] <uniq> seantater: alt+f2 type "#ssh" and go. search for '-c' a few times and you'll find a list of ciphers.
[09:58] <SeanTater> nixternal`2go: same thing
[09:58] <kyle_> Tiv: It just didn't want to overwrite the files from Ktorrent 1,2 because it doesn't delete all of them when u uninstall it(the common files or whatever)
[09:58] <SeanTater> uniq: okay  -- looking now
[09:59] <ChefWill> yea
[09:59] <ChefWill> i lost a lot of icons when i installed kubuntu
[09:59] <ryanakca> nixternal`2go: k3b/cdrecord, Compact Disc ReWritabhle Ultra Speed 52x32x52x... No, its the dapper kernel
[09:59] <SeanTater> uniq: ah-ha! Thanks!
[09:59] <jaro> Hello, does anybody know how to include ICQ in GAIM ??
[09:59] <uniq> seantater: no problem :)
[10:00] <steve343> ok is firefox any good?
[10:00] <Tiv> kyle: try the deb file from defrysk  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188530
[10:00] <jaro> Hello, does anybody know how to include ICQ in GAIM ??
[10:01] <defrysk> jaro, make an icq account
[10:01] <defrysk> in gaim
[10:01] <uniq> steve343: yes. but i prefer konqueror as it starts faster and integrates better into KDE :)
[10:01] <steve343> use kopete its nicer
[10:01] <defrysk> kopete same thing
[10:01] <kyle_> Tiv: I just got it, just used -force-overright when trying to install the deb file. it works now :)
[10:01] <Tiv> kyle_: :-)
[10:01] <steve343> i will be using konquerer if i'm running other programs but i like an all singing add blocking one too :)
[10:02] <X_Spider> need help to install kubuntu... The installer can't start qtparted and when i'M stating qtparted in konsole, i'm getting a segmentation fault. I tried to remove all linux partition, verify that my partition was good.. but i didn't find any problem
[10:02] <uniq> kyle_: for the record. Using --force options is a bad thing, and you might end up with a broken package database. And you don't want that. (usualy means poor packaging.)
[10:03] <flo_> did anyone managed to get to work xgl/compiz on kubuntu? can someone give me the link for a good tutorial on how to makeit?
[10:03] <jaro> I have an ICQ account, I already use ICQ on Kopete.. but I cannot chose any ICQ from GAIM
[10:03] <defrysk> jaro, yes you can
[10:03] <jaro> it seems like the ICQ-Olugin is missing
[10:03] <SeanTater> uniq: so what's the difference between aes128-cbc and aes128-ctr?
[10:03] <kyle_> uniq: ya usually i wouldn't but i read up on a few forums and the new kubunu a lot of users have used the --force-overwrite withought a problem so i assumed everything should be good
[10:03] <defrysk> jaro, no its not
[10:03] <steve343> try the gaim forums
[10:04] <jaro> when I chose: Add Account.... and in the DropDown-Box there is no ICQ available
[10:04] <defrysk> jaro, add account and select aim/icq
[10:05] <jaro> ahhhh
[10:05] <jaro> thank you
[10:05] <jaro> since when is aim and icq the same ?
[10:05] <nixternal`2go> battery is dying...bbiaf
[10:05] <defrysk> its the very first one </handhold>
[10:05] <jaro> i overread icq..
[10:05] <steve343> well just to let you guys know i'm already enjoying my kubuntu experience a lot more than my ubuntu one
[10:05] <visik7> !restricted
[10:05] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[10:05] <steve343> bye
[10:05] <bleaked_> hey.. is amarok 1.4 in the dapper release?
[10:05] <jaro> sure
[10:06] <SeanTater> bleaked_: no
[10:06] <SeanTater> bleaked_: not likely very stable yet
[10:06] <bleaked_> ok, just checking.. still need to use the special source
[10:06] <bleaked_> hrm.. it's FAR more stable than 1.3.8, that's for sure.
[10:06] <defrysk> bleaked_, its available tho for dapper
[10:06] <bleaked_> but yea, must be tested, etc.
[10:06] <bleaked_> defrysk: wait..that's what i just asked..
[10:06] <jaro> hmm.. is there anything available as good as Miranda is on Windows ?
[10:07] <defrysk> bleaked_, add this to your repo for the latest amarok :
[10:07] <defrysk> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main
[10:08] <CaBlGuY> !kopete 0.12.0
[10:08] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:08] <CaBlGuY> !kopete
[10:08] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[10:08] <bleaked_> defrysk: i know, i've been using it for weeks now..i'm just helping a friend get 1.4 going and didn't know if it was included in dapper final.
[10:09] <defrysk> oic
[10:09] <defrysk> sorry
[10:09] <[BU] Brizz> bleaked_: what is new in 1.4?
[10:10] <LiteHedded> my sound stopped working. anybody care to help me out? :)
[10:10] <Lpadmin> With Dapper?
[10:10] <LiteHedded> dapper
[10:10] <iNiku> yeah, Google Earth for linux!
[10:11] <uniq> seantater: you can read all about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_cipher_modes_of_operation
[10:11] <ryanakca> whats the md5sum of the kubuntu dapper iso?
[10:11] <Lpadmin> LiteHedded, was this directly after your upgrade?
[10:11] <ninHer> hi all
[10:12] <LiteHedded> no
[10:12] <LiteHedded> actually after getting ati working
[10:12] <uniq> ryanakca: you can find them at http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/MD5SUMS
[10:12] <LiteHedded> it did work after my upgrade
[10:12] <DaSkreech> jaro: They have been the same for a long time now
[10:12] <jaro> what has been the same ?
[10:13] <Lpadmin> Sorry, I can't be of any help to you. :-(
[10:13] <LiteHedded> D'OH!
[10:13] <DaSkreech> AIM and ICQ
[10:13] <jaro> oh
[10:13] <jaro> i didnt know that
[10:14] <DaSkreech> Bout 4 years at least
[10:14] <jaro> Kopete and Gaim are much too big on the screen
[10:14] <DaSkreech> the Protocol is called OSCAR
[10:14] <X_Spider> someone can help me with my problem? the kubuntu install can't start qtparted, and when i'm running qtparted from konsole and choosing my harddisk, i'M getting a segmentation fault
[10:14] <DaSkreech> jaro: Just close them :)
[10:14] <jaro> lol
[10:14] <defrysk> or get a bigger screen
[10:14] <jaro> then i cant chat
[10:14] <jaro> on laptop ?
[10:14] <jaro> :(
[10:14] <jaro> i will, as soon as i have the money
[10:15] <DaSkreech> Oh you mean teh messaging windows?
[10:16] <ryanakca> uniq: those are the ubuntu ones :)
[10:16] <[BU] Brizz> does anyone know if Kopete .12 binaries are available anywhere yet?
[10:16] <jaro> yes
[10:16] <jaro> the messaging windows.. or the Contact List as well
[10:16] <uniq> ryanakca: eh.. sorry. http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dapper/MD5SUMS
[10:16] <jaro> the Contact List is much better organised in Kopete than in Gaim
[10:17] <ryanakca> uniq: lol, ty
[10:17] <defrysk> [BU] Brizz, yes they are
[10:17] <DaSkreech> Ok My Sound stopped working
[10:17] <[BU] Brizz> defrysk: and they are... where? :)
[10:17] <defrysk> [BU] Brizz, wget http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/packages/kopete_3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1_i386.deb
[10:17] <[BU] Brizz> thanks :)
[10:17] <DaSkreech> how do I find out what is holding onto /dev/dsp ?
[10:18] <bleaked_> [BU] Brizz: um..omg, so much..it's ridiculous.. i wouldn't use anything less than amarok 1.4
[10:18] <afm\colossus> hello  everyone
[10:19] <[BU] Brizz> bleaked_: just upgrade and already noticing a ton lol
[10:19] <afm\colossus> which mobile phones are known to work well with Kontact's sync-abilities?
[10:19] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: If you find a way then I would be interested to know it (I had a similar problem where I couldn't reboot because I was doing a compile - I forcibly removed the sound modules and crashed the machine)
[10:19] <defrysk> DaSkreech, no sound in dapper ?
[10:19] <bleaked_> [BU] Brizz: amazing audio support, crossfading, true gapless playback, improved tagging, new collection features, full ipod support..
[10:20] <bleaked_> [BU] Brizz: comparing 1.3.8 to 1.4, is almost like kde 3.3 to 3.5
[10:20] <jaro> yay MIranda on Linux
[10:20] <DaSkreech> defrysk: Sound till just a while ago
[10:20] <afm\colossus> ?
[10:20] <betty> hhhhhhi
[10:20] <DaSkreech> It works from the CLI but not from GUI apps
[10:21] <[BU] Brizz> rofl
[10:21] <[BU] Brizz> ls
[10:21] <defrysk> DaSkreech, did you install libxine-extracodecs and libarts1-xine ?
[10:21] <DaSkreech> defrysk: I can't play oggs
[10:21] <defrysk> DaSkreech, ooh
[10:22] <DaSkreech> and incidently katapult crashes on use
[10:22] <defrysk> what engine is arts set to DaSkreech ?
[10:22] <buz> defrysk: is that kopete package safe? the other ones i've saw werent
[10:22] <DaSkreech> xine
[10:22] <betty> howwdo 1 find cats/
[10:22] <DaSkreech> wait
[10:22] <defrysk> buz, works on mine
[10:22] <DaSkreech> Whats arts?
[10:22] <DaSkreech> Isn't arts the engine?
[10:22] <buz> defrysk: didnt remote other package?
[10:22] <defrysk> DaSkreech, soundserver
[10:23] <defrysk> buz ?
[10:23] <defrysk> remove you mean buz ?
[10:23] <buz> yes
[10:23] <defrysk> nope
[10:23] <buz> goo
[10:23] <buz> d
[10:23] <buz> thx
[10:23] <defrysk> it simply upped kopete
[10:24] <betty> how do i seaaarch for cattttttttttts
[10:24] <buz> one i tried wanted to kill kdenetwork
[10:24] <defrysk> the one in ubuntuforems is that I guess?
[10:25] <jtinney> Would anyone happen to know of either a good program or tutorial for creating a multi-boot cd or dvd?
[10:26] <jme__> naive question what mean 'multi' in multiboot cd ?
[10:26] <jme__> like a 'grub/lilo' but on your cd ?
[10:27] <h3sp4wn> Installing multiple linux distributions from one cd ?
[10:27] <DaSkreech> betty: What?
[10:27] <betty> how long does it take for a new person to learn the computer?
[10:27] <X_Spider> is possible to use gparted instead of qtparted in the kubuntu installer? qtparted doesn't work but i installed gparted and it work
[10:27] <jtinney> Well, what I'd like to do is put kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu and some other diagnostic programs all on one disc, and for the images I would like to choose which one the cd will initiate based off of a menu?
[10:27] <defrysk> betty, two metres
[10:28] <h3sp4wn> jtinney: It would have to be a dvd
[10:28] <jtinney> so, yes, a type of boot menu, but on a cd or dvd
[10:29] <DaSkreech> betty: as long as they have interest
[10:29] <jtinney> Yeah, and that's fine, it's just finding a program that will do it for me, or finding a good tutorial. I've been looking around and haven't had much look in the freeware department
[10:29] <betty> what is a good way to learn the computer?
[10:29] <jtinney> look = luck
[10:29] <jme__> jtinney: well it is a very specific answer and i dont have the answer. i would suggest you to talk to people who are used to build distribution cd :)
[10:29] <h3sp4wn> jtineey: Just mount an iso and take it appart
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> jtineey: You would want multiple squashfs images (from the different distributions)
[10:30] <DaSkreech> betty: Decide what you want to do and figure out a way to do it :)
[10:30] <DaSkreech> do it in steps.. get to a comfortable place then once you are used to doing something then step out off the cliff again
[10:31] <LiteHedded> can someone help my get my sound working again?
[10:31] <jtinney> h2sp4wn: Thank you, that points me in a direction so I can start searching and hopefully be able to produce something workable.
[10:32] <jtinney> h3sp4wn^
[10:33] <h3sp4wn> jtinney: You need squashfs-tools
[10:33] <DaSkreech> LiteHedded: Whats the problem?
[10:33] <LiteHedded> it was working, I fixed my ati drivers by editing xorg.conf and rebooted
[10:33] <LiteHedded> no sound now
[10:33] <DaSkreech> LiteHedded: Oh a reboot...
[10:33] <snedar_> hi, I'm sorry, something crashed. has anyone answered my question?
[10:33] <DaSkreech> can you play an ogg from the CLI?
[10:33] <h3sp4wn> jtinney: I used this to make a custom xubuntu cd 'sudo mkisofs -r -V "Custom XUbuntu Live CD" -cache-inodes -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o /mnt/xubuntu-sam.iso /mnt/isofiles'
[10:34] <LiteHedded> um...huh?
[10:34] <LiteHedded> :)
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> jtinney: (That deals with the bootable part of it)
[10:34] <jme__> DaSkreech: ogg123
[10:34] <snedar_> DaSkreech: ogg123 (or wasn't your question *how* you do that?)
[10:35] <DaSkreech> ogg123 ~/Examples/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg
[10:35] <DaSkreech> Thanks guys :-) I'm helping LiteHedded
[10:35] <LiteHedded> so that's to me? ogg123 thing?
[10:36] <DaSkreech> Yes LiteHedded
[10:37] <jtinney> h3sp4wn: Alright, I'm at work now but I'll get squashfs-tools when I get home and try that command and see what I can come up with.
[10:37] <LiteHedded> brian@sager:~$ ogg123 ~/Examples/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg
[10:37] <LiteHedded> Audio Device:   Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) output
[10:37] <LiteHedded> Cannot open /home/brian/Examples/Experience ubuntu.ogg.
[10:39] <DaSkreech> Hmm ok
[10:39] <LiteHedded> hmmm i have an arts gui tool thingie
[10:39] <DaSkreech> Really?
[10:39] <DaSkreech> Where?
[10:39] <DaSkreech> :-)
[10:39] <LiteHedded> yea and it says the arts sound daemon will not autosuspen right now since there are active modules
[10:40] <LiteHedded> it's in my start menu
[10:40] <LiteHedded> it's called arts control
[10:41] <DaSkreech> I don't have that
[10:41] <afm\colossus> which mobile phones are known to work well with Kontact's sync-abilities?
[10:41] <LiteHedded> heh
[10:41] <LiteHedded> i have a folder called debian in my start menu
[10:41] <DaSkreech> ah ok
[10:41] <LiteHedded> might be from when I installed fluxbox
[10:41] <DaSkreech> got yu now :)
[10:41] <LiteHedded> i dunno
[10:41] <LiteHedded> oh ok
[10:43] <LiteHedded> did i scare you away?
[10:43] <DaSkreech> Umm no
[10:43] <DaSkreech> I have to reboot though
[10:43] <LiteHedded> ARGH!
[10:43] <DaSkreech> I'll be back
[10:43] <LiteHedded> ok i'll wait
[10:44] <fek> DaSkreech: /nick Terminator
[10:45] <Ayabara> I can't shake the feeling that my movies look better in xp than in kubuntu. could the ati driver give better results than the fglrx driver on my ati radeon m300?
[10:45] <rlj> hi there
[10:46] <rlj> i think the driver for my soundcard under dapper defaults to playback in 22500 Hz (instead of 44100). i guess it might be that the linux driver isn't capable of more, but could it also be a config problem? is there a way to configure an alsa soundcard (apart from volumes is alsamixer)?
[10:47] <rlj> *22050
[10:47] <LiteHedded> man this sucks not having sound
[10:47] <Kream> hi all
[10:47] <DaSkreech> I know!
[10:47] <LiteHedded> i'll paypal a dollar to whoever can fix it for me :)
[10:47] <DaSkreech> Well rebooting seemed to fix most of my problems :) of course they caused yours
[10:47] <LiteHedded> yep
[10:48] <Kream> I dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper but the sound card is not working; alsamixer says that no card has been detected. How do I re-detect my card ?
[10:48] <DaSkreech> So arts won't start?
[10:49] <DaSkreech> what happens when you run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start?
[10:49] <LiteHedded> i think artsd is running
[10:49] <LiteHedded> i see the processes
[10:49] <LiteHedded> brian@sager:~$ /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start * Setting up ALSA...
[10:50] <Chryseus> what soundcard do you have?
[10:50] <LiteHedded> ac97
[10:50] <DaSkreech> does it say ok?
[10:50] <crimsun_> DaSkreech: alsa-utils doesn't "start alsa" -- it only restores the mixer levels.
[10:50] <LiteHedded> oh yea it says ok
[10:50] <DaSkreech> crimsun_: Good to know
[10:50] <DaSkreech> What does start alsa?
[10:50] <crimsun_> Kream: how old is the computer?
[10:50] <crimsun_> DaSkreech: udev
[10:50] <Kream> crimsun_: new laptop, sound worked fine under breezy
[10:51] <Kream> Setting up ALSA...                                                                                                * warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: load_st[ ok ] 36: No soundcards found...'
[10:51] <DaSkreech> so run /etc/init.d/udev restart?
[10:51] <crimsun_> DaSkreech: no
[10:51] <DaSkreech> ah
[10:51] <DaSkreech> ok :)
[10:51] <crimsun_> guys, one at a time, please.
[10:51] <Chryseus> lsmod | grep ac97
[10:51] <LiteHedded> so um what do I do?
[10:51] <crimsun_> Kream: / LiteHedded: ``lspci -v && lspci -nv'' onto pastebin
[10:52] <devlin-7> nixternal: f6 thing didn't work.. d/ling "alternative" now
[10:52] <LiteHedded> pastebin url plz
[10:52] <Kream> rafb.net/paste
[10:52] <crimsun_> the Fine Topic has the URL.
[10:52] <jtinney> Just a note on my earlier posted issue for creating multiboot cd's, I found a tutorial in PDF format from linux-magazine.com Issue 26, the link as follows: http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/29/MultibootCDs.pdf
[10:52] <crimsun_> (doesn't anyone read the topic nowadays?)
[10:52] <Kream> crimsun_: am doing :)
[10:53] <Kream> crimsun_: as many as read EULAs :)
[10:53] <DaSkreech> lol
[10:53] <LiteHedded> http://rafb.net/paste/results/NUOX5Z21.html
[10:53] <afm\colossus> one last time for today...: which mobile phones are known to work well with Kontact's sync-abilities?
[10:54] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: that's not all I asked for
[10:54] <DaSkreech> Motorola
[10:54] <afm\colossus> DaSkreech: any specific models?
[10:54] <LiteHedded> oh
[10:54] <LiteHedded> sorry
[10:55] <DaSkreech> afm\colossus: have you asked in #kontact?
[10:55] <LiteHedded> what else did you need?
[10:55] <afm\colossus> nope, not yet :)
[10:55] <DaSkreech> Or checked the site?
[10:55] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: lspci -v
[10:55] <afm\colossus> but i'll head over to there right now
[10:55] <afm\colossus> ;)
[10:55] <DaSkreech> afm\colossus: That might be a lot more efficent :)
[10:55] <p> Hallo. I have problem with my usb card reader after upgrade from 5,10 to 6.06. In 5.10 I only plug it and it works. What I must do in 6.06 to make it working?
[10:55] <Kream> while it's pasting, is there a way to re-detect hardware, or even, more specifically, audio hardware ?
[10:56] <crimsun_> Kream: no, that's why I asked for that info.
[10:56] <DaSkreech> there was a sndconfig I don't know if it's still around
[10:56] <Kream> alsaconfig works on another distro
[10:56] <LiteHedded> http://rafb.net/paste/results/btwQBs90.html
[10:56] <crimsun_> sndconfig is not in Ubuntu. alsaconfig is only useful for ISA devices.
[10:56] <Kream> this is bizarre - rafb.net is not accepting my paste
[10:56] <crimsun_> Kream: so use another pastebin, there are plenty
[10:57] <LiteHedded> that happened to me earlier on another pastebin....weird
[10:57] <Kream> i've used alsaconfig for the intel HDA off of a 915 board a week ago
[10:57] <Kream> looking...
[10:57] <crimsun_> we don't ship alsaconf period.
[10:57] <Kream> fair enough.
[10:57] <Kream> not asking you to :)
[10:57] <LiteHedded> do you have what you need crimsun_?
[10:57] <neuron_> !xgl
[10:57] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:57] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: scroll up and read what I asked for, please.
[10:58] <LiteHedded> um ok I thought I did.
[10:58] <LiteHedded> lspci -v right?
[10:58] <DaSkreech> && lspci -vv
[10:58] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: no, I need lspci -v && lspci -nv
[10:58] <DaSkreech> the && lspci -vv is part of the command
[10:58] <LiteHedded> i gave you that already I thought
[10:59] <LiteHedded> then you said that's not all you needed
[10:59] <LiteHedded> so I gave you lspci -v
[10:59] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: and where's the urL?
[10:59] <crimsun_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/btwQBs90.html  <-- ?
[11:00] <steve343> anyone know if someones managed to get steam to work under wine?
[11:00] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: now I need ``lsmod && amixer''
[11:00] <DaSkreech> steve343: Someone has
[11:01] <steve343> running or running well?
[11:01] <LiteHedded> http://rafb.net/paste/results/s6iGzI57.html
[11:01] <jme__> more like running away ? :)
[11:01] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: now summarise your problem, please
[11:01] <LiteHedded> sound not working
[11:02] <crimsun_> Kream: have you provided that info?
[11:02] <LiteHedded> it was working then I edited xorg.conf to get ati working and rebooted now no sound
[11:02] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: you keep omitting stuff I requested
[11:02] <LiteHedded> well I'm trying dude
[11:03] <LiteHedded> request it all at once maybe. I thought I gave you everything
[11:03] <DaSkreech> crimsun_: try >exact thing he should type<
[11:03] <LiteHedded> yes try that
[11:03] <DaSkreech> Then he can copy everything between those two
[11:03] <crimsun_> 17:00 < crimsun_> LiteHedded: now I need ``lsmod && amixer''
[11:03] <LiteHedded> i gave you that
[11:03] <LjL> LiteHedded: last URL was only amixer, not lsmod, as far as i can see
[11:03] <crimsun_> not sure how that's terribly unclear.
[11:03] <LiteHedded> it's not
[11:04] <LiteHedded> i pasted it right into a terminal
[11:04] <betty_> hi
[11:04] <betty_> I have a question
[11:04] <LiteHedded> i see it in my history but I'll try again
[11:04] <LjL> LiteHedded: perhaps you didn't paste from the beginning of the output?
[11:04] <DaSkreech> hi betty
[11:04] <betty_> can I setup my computer to turn off after 10:00PM?
[11:04] <DaSkreech> sure
[11:04] <LjL> betty_: not sure it's the best option, but edit /etc/crontab and add an entry there
[11:04] <betty_> I mean; how can I setup my computer to turn off after 10;)0PM?
[11:05] <LiteHedded> I was >>ing it to a text file. I think I didn't tryp the > for both commands
[11:05] <betty_> I've never used the crontab
[11:05] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: do you have multiple sound devices or just that onboard?
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Wel there is kCron
[11:05] <DaSkreech> which makes it a little easier
[11:05] <LiteHedded> what's the best way to get those long outputs from a terminal tot he bin?
[11:05] <betty_> kCron
[11:05] <LjL> betty_: an entry like this one would probably work:     * 10 * * * root halt
[11:05] <DaSkreech> should be in the system menu
[11:05] <LiteHedded> just the onboard crimsun_
[11:05] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[11:06] <LjL> LiteHedded: it would have worked if you did   ( lsmod && amixer ) >>filename
[11:06] <betty_> do I need to include the root password?
[11:06] <LjL> LiteHedded: otherwise redirection is per-command
[11:06] <LiteHedded> here's lsmod
[11:06] <LiteHedded> http://rafb.net/paste/results/9QbebT77.html
[11:06] <LjL> betty_: no, crond is executed as root
[11:06] <LiteHedded> thanks LjL I'll try it next time
[11:06] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: right, don't really need the output now. Execute the amixer command I gave you, and test sound again.
[11:07] <LiteHedded> Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 0 [0%] 
[11:07] <LiteHedded> isn't there a command that will give static from a terminal?
[11:07] <LiteHedded> /dev/dsp or something?
[11:07] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav
[11:07] <LjL> LiteHedded: sudo cat </dev/urandom >/dev/dsp
[11:07] <betty_> What program would I put in the kCron?
[11:07] <LiteHedded> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
[11:08] <LiteHedded> but I don't hear it
[11:08] <LjL> betty_: dunno, never used it. however i suppose typing "halt" as the command would work
[11:08] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[11:08] <LiteHedded> ok done
[11:08] <betty_> I wish it wasn't in military time
[11:08] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: and now?
[11:08] <LiteHedded> nothing
[11:09] <LjL> betty_: oops sorry, of course the line should have been * 22 * * * root halt :)
[11:09] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: amixer set 'Headphone' off && amixer set 'Master Mono' off
[11:09] <McScruff> help , i had sound, and now i dont, i dont think i have upgraded either
[11:09] <LiteHedded> nothing
[11:10] <LiteHedded> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy if I do the /dev/dsp thing
[11:10] <Official_C> anyone here running XGL?
[11:10] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: does aplay play with inaudible sound, or does it hang?
[11:10] <crimsun_> McScruff: pastebin ``amixer''
[11:10] <LjL> LiteHedded: that doesn't necessarily mean much, i guess your sound daemon could be keeping it busy
[11:10] <LiteHedded> it looks like it's playing but it just sits there
[11:11] <crimsun_> so it's hanging
[11:11] <LiteHedded> i have to ctrl+c it
[11:11] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[11:11] <eclypse> anyone know of any good KDE optimizaition tricks?
[11:11] <eclypse> speed it up graphics wise
[11:11] <eclypse> without sacrificing
[11:11] <McScruff> crimsun_: http://pastebin.com/707394
[11:12] <LjL> besides the things that are in the control panel, i don't know of anything special
[11:12] <kdingo> eclypse: installing more memory?
[11:12] <LiteHedded> COMMAND  PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[11:12] <LiteHedded> artsd   5023 brian  mem    CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[11:12] <LiteHedded> artsd   5023 brian    9u   CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[11:12] <LiteHedded> kmix    5025 brian   10u   CHR  116,0      9422 /dev/snd/controlC0
[11:12] <LiteHedded> wxvlc   5102 brian  mem    CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[11:12] <LiteHedded> wxvlc   5102 brian    9r   CHR 116,33      9109 /dev/snd/timer
[11:12] <LiteHedded> wxvlc   5102 brian   10u   CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[11:12] <LiteHedded> wxvlc   5261 brian  mem    CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[11:12] <Official_C> eclypse: i think you can dumb down the eye candy a bit in Settings
[11:12] <LiteHedded> wxvlc   5261 brian    9r   CHR 116,33      9109 /dev/snd/timer
[11:12] <LiteHedded> wxvlc   5261 brian   10u   CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[11:12] <LiteHedded> artsd   5356 brian  mem    CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[11:12] <LiteHedded> artsd   5356 brian   10r   CHR 116,33      9109 /dev/snd/timer
[11:12] <crimsun_> oh gosh.
[11:12] <LiteHedded> artsd   5356 brian   12u   CHR 116,16      9394 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[11:12] <Official_C> what the spam???
[11:12] <eclypse> well
[11:12] <eclypse> I mean, my graphics card is powerful enough to run it very well
[11:12] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: pkill wxvlc artsd
[11:13] <eclypse> I have my drivers installed and working
[11:13] <eclypse> but it seems like KDE can go faster then this
[11:13] <LiteHedded> don't thing that worked crimsun_
[11:13] <Official_C> eclypse: so whats your problem?
[11:13] <LiteHedded> syntax error?
[11:13] <LjL> eclypse: your graphics card doesn't really have too much to do with KDE running speed
[11:13] <crimsun_> pkill wxvlc && kill artsd
[11:13] <crimsun_> err
[11:13] <crimsun_> pkill wxvlc && pkill artsd
[11:13] <betty_> says I have to be superuser to use halt
[11:13] <LiteHedded> done
[11:13] <crimsun_> McScruff: what do you mean you "don't think" you upgraded?
[11:13] <crimsun_> McScruff: either you did, or you didn't...
[11:14] <Official_C> yeah, LJL is right...it is more dependent on memory and processor
[11:14] <_tiago> hhhg
[11:14] <LjL> betty_: yes, you do. if you do the crontab think, it *should* run it as superuser
[11:14] <McScruff> crimsun_: i have only installed flash
[11:14] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: now try the aplay command.
[11:14] <uniq> betty_: yes, you have to.
[11:14] <_tiago> hi i am brazilian
[11:14] <LjL> betty_: with KCron, on the other hand, i suppose it might run it as the normal user
[11:14] <_tiago> where are you from
[11:14] <McScruff> crimsun_: but i dont remember exactly when it stopped
[11:14] <crimsun_> McScruff: ok, ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[11:14] <Lpadmin> LiteHedded, you can use pastebin.com.
[11:14] <Lpadmin> ;)
[11:14] <LiteHedded> sorry lpadmin
[11:15] <LiteHedded> i got sound that time
[11:15] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: good, so your sound works fine.
[11:15] <LiteHedded> but weird scratchy sound. what's that wave supposed to sound like?
[11:15] <crimsun_> doesn't matter, you have sound
[11:15] <Lpadmin> Or this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/. Hey at least you have sound. ;)
[11:15] <Official_C> so nobody here is running XGL?
[11:15] <crimsun_> use -Dplughw:0 if you want
[11:15] <Lpadmin> s/Hey/Hey,/
[11:15] <LiteHedded> not anymore
[11:15] <LiteHedded> tried it again and nothing
[11:15] <Official_C> LiteHedded: you used to?
[11:15] <Lpadmin> That was quick... :(
[11:16] <LiteHedded> it used to work fine
[11:16] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: don't use arts
[11:16] <McScruff> crimsun_: http://pastebin.com/707404
[11:16] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: go to the multimedia settings and disable the sound server
[11:16] <LiteHedded> i tried playing a divx movie and I heard a kind of pop then tried your command again and nothing
[11:16] <LiteHedded> in kcontrol?
[11:16] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: are you using vlc to play the movie?
[11:16] <LiteHedded> yes
[11:16] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: what's the alsa output configured as?
[11:17] <LiteHedded> the output module in the preferences?
[11:17] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: yes, you may need to check the advanced options
[11:17] <LiteHedded> alsa
[11:17] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: no, that's not the device
[11:17] <LjL> any idea why my DNS settings are destroyed after every reboot?
[11:17] <LiteHedded> oh
[11:17] <LiteHedded> it says defualt
[11:17] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: the default should be set to "default"
[11:17] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: good
[11:18] <LiteHedded> there's nothing in that list though unless I refresh it
[11:18] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: that's fine, leave it at default
[11:18] <_aaron> I can't figure outhow to get my wifi working under Kubutu 6.06
[11:18] <LiteHedded> ok
[11:18] <crimsun_> McScruff: don't use arts, the sound server
[11:19] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: can you run two simultaneous instances of aplay and hear them both?
[11:19] <_aaron> I can see the wifi device when I list the USB devices.. but it doesn't appear to be detected... it's just the atheros chipset?!
[11:19] <LiteHedded> so disabling the sound server is done in kcontrol right?
[11:19] <LiteHedded> i can't hear one
[11:19] <LiteHedded> so I doubt I would hear both
[11:19] <krusipo> hi have searched around, is there an easier way to install firefox than installing ubuntu?
[11:19] <crimsun_> pastebin ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* && amixer''
[11:19] <LjL> krusipo: ... sorry? :o)
[11:20] <EvilIdler> Huh?
[11:20] <LiteHedded> me crimsun_?
[11:20] <chavo> krusipo, sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:20] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: well, yes
[11:20] <LjL> or sudo aptitude install firefox, yeah
[11:20] <McScruff> crimsun_: what sound server should i use?
[11:20] <crimsun_> McScruff: none
[11:20] <LiteHedded> what's the best way to get all that to the pastebin from a terminal?
[11:20] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: highlight and paste using your mouse
[11:20] <krusipo> LjL: no firefox in the kubuntu installation how do I get it, have the repositories right but its not there
[11:20] <McScruff> crimsun_: what do i do then?, im confused
[11:21] <LjL> krusipo: then you don't have the repositories right ;)
[11:21] <crimsun_> McScruff: disable it.
[11:21] <EvilIdler> It's called mozilla-firefox, probably
[11:21] <LiteHedded> well scrolling over that many lines is pretty difficult
[11:21] <_aaron> I don't see ndis in adept...
[11:21] <LjL> krusipo: what does "apt-cache search firefox" tell you?
[11:21] <LiteHedded> i have to use the wheel to scroll up on the terminal
[11:21] <h3sp4wn> aaron: You can't use knetworkmanager with atheros (without the connection randomly dropping) - if you do ifconfig -a does ath0 appear ?
[11:21] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: then do so
[11:21] <LjL> EvilIdler: it's called both, but mozilla-firefox is transitional
[11:21] <h3sp4wn> aaron: You are better off using madwifi-ng than ndiswrapper if your usb adapter is not supported by madwifi-old
[11:21] <krusipo> LjL: it says
[11:21] <krusipo> openoffice.org - OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0
[11:21] <krusipo> mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb - Mozilla Firefox English language/region package
[11:21] <krusipo> libnspr4 - Netscape Portable Runtime Library
[11:21] <krusipo> libnss3 - Network Security Service Libraries - runtime
[11:21] <LiteHedded> oh ok that one's not so long
[11:22] <LjL> !paste
[11:22] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:22] <LjL> krusipo: is that Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper)?
[11:23] <LjL> krusipo: try "sudo apt-get update", and then again
[11:23] <LiteHedded> http://rafb.net/paste/results/DjrACS14.html
[11:23] <krusipo> LjL: yep it is fresh from servers and burned to day
[11:23] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: if you close vlc, can you hear stuff from aplay?
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> _aaron: try doing sudo ifconfig ath0 up && iwlist ath0 scan (and see whether you get any output)
[11:23] <LiteHedded> no
[11:24] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: ok, I'm still missing the amixer output I requested
[11:24] <LiteHedded> just amixer?
[11:24] <crimsun_> yes
[11:25] <LiteHedded> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ttXO0171.html
[11:26] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: does aplay still hang, or does it give you a prompt back?
[11:26] <LiteHedded> hangs
[11:26] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: what command are you using?
[11:26] <LiteHedded> aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav
[11:26] <LiteHedded> even when it played that scratchy popping sound it hanged
[11:27] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: it never gave you a prompt back after playing the scratchy sound?
[11:27] <_aaron> h3sp4wn: ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:27] <LiteHedded> i don't think so crimsun_
[11:27] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: are you typing in the same terminal?
[11:27] <LiteHedded> yes
[11:27] <crimsun_> did you press ctrl+c?
[11:27] <LiteHedded> yes
[11:28] <LiteHedded> you wanted me to disable the sound server right?
[11:28] <LiteHedded> i didn't do that yet
[11:28] <geneo93> anyone have trouble with kde saving settings
[11:28] <crimsun_> lsmod |egrep '^snd_(via|intel)'
[11:28] <spajus_> hi. how do you minimize all windows in kde?
[11:28] <crimsun_> -> phone
[11:28] <DaSkreech> Alt+Ctrl+D
[11:28] <LiteHedded> snd_intel8x0           35740  4
[11:28] <spajus_> thanks
[11:29] <LjL> spajus_: there's the "Desktop" icon for the panel. doesn't really mimimize, but it does let you see the desktop
[11:29] <spajus_> i would also like to know if it is possible to bind this action to different key combination
[11:29] <spajus_> in other words, how to change shortcut keys :)
[11:30] <DaSkreech> spajus_: System Settings -> regional _> keyboard shortcuts
[11:30] <spajus_> thanks again :)
[11:30] <DaSkreech> Sure
[11:30] <LjL> spajus_: what DaSkreech said. but i don't see the hotkey you need, there
[11:31] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[11:31] <LiteHedded> disable the sound system in kcontrol crimsun_?
[11:32] <LjL> heh
[11:32] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: yes for now
[11:32] <LiteHedded> k
[11:32] <th0m4s> i want the sonypi module as i have a sony vaio laptop
[11:32] <th0m4s> how to do
[11:32] <LiteHedded> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Mw9vVq82.html
[11:32] <th0m4s> i see vaiostat-source in Adept
[11:33] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: can you please quit vlc and close the mixer applet?
[11:33] <LiteHedded> it is closed
[11:33] <LiteHedded> that could be my problem
[11:33] <LiteHedded> vlc isn't open as far as I can tell
[11:33] <crimsun_> it's definitely open
[11:33] <crimsun_> kill 5659 5647
[11:33] <LiteHedded> so I need to kill the wxvlc processes? because I don't have it running
[11:34] <LiteHedded> ok done
[11:34] <crimsun_> now lsof again
[11:34] <LiteHedded> just kmix
[11:34] <LiteHedded> which I also closed...
[11:34] <crimsun_> good
[11:34] <olivier> :join #istres
[11:34] <LiteHedded> well I guess it's running int he tray?
[11:34] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: yes
[11:34] <LiteHedded> ok
[11:34] <th0m4s> oh cool nm
[11:34] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: doesn't matter, you can leave that running
[11:35] <LiteHedded> k
[11:35] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: now try the aplay command again
[11:35] <LiteHedded> weird popping sounds
[11:35] <LiteHedded> hanging
[11:35] <crimsun_> man, what in the world did you do?
[11:35] <crimsun_> pastebin ``dmesg''
[11:35] <LiteHedded> I booted puppy linux from a live cd
[11:36] <LiteHedded> maybe it wrote something to this ubuntu partition?
[11:36] <crimsun_> no idea
[11:36] <crimsun_> I have a meeting shortly, so please hurry.
[11:36] <italoivo> i got a problem with my dsl conection during the boot
[11:37] <LiteHedded> http://rafb.net/paste/results/1uWhL146.html
[11:37] <LiteHedded> trying
[11:37] <_mora> #de-ubuntu
[11:37] <LiteHedded> takes forever to scroll and highlight all that
[11:37] <[BU] Brizz> why would video work in flash but not audio?
[11:37] <crimsun_> hah, beautiful
[11:38] <crimsun_> your dmesg confirms that some other driver trampled all over the sound driver's address space
[11:38] <LiteHedded> oh great
[11:38] <LiteHedded> some "live" cd
[11:38] <LiteHedded> that's prolly what it did
[11:39] <crimsun_> not necessarily
[11:39] <LiteHedded> there was a part in booting it that configured sound
[11:39] <LiteHedded> not that I think about it
[11:39] <crimsun_> please boot with "irqpoll"
[11:39] <LiteHedded> huh?
[11:40] <crimsun_> when you get the grub prompt, press 'e' to edit the current (non-recovery/rescue) one, then scroll down to the kernel line, then edit that and append " irqpoll" to the end of the line. Press enter, then b to boot.
[11:41] <LiteHedded> there's a bunch of kernels to boot in there how do I know which to select?
[11:42] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: choose the top one.
[11:42] <LiteHedded> ok so add " irqpoll" just like that without quotes?
[11:43] <crimsun_> LiteHedded: yes
[11:43] <Liteee> <---litehedded's windoze box
[11:43] <LiteHedded> ok I'll do thatbrb
[11:44] <Lpadmin> After I had upgraded to Dapper, cupsys stopped working. cupsd: Child exited with status 1!||\\--//|| invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "start" failed.
[11:44] <blanky> hey guys, how come in my lipstik theme, the close button on the top right is a bit more separated from the minimize and maximize
[11:44] <Liteee> ok I hit 'e'
[11:45] <Liteee> i have a new menu
[11:45] <visik7> anyone had recompile iptables from sid to dapper ?
[11:45] <stephenford> why cant amrok open mp3 files?
[11:45] <NoUse> !tell stephenford about mp3
[11:45] <italoivo> i got a problem with my dsl conection during the boot, i don't receive any anwser from the server and it seems connected, the ppp0 is up, and only after putting down the ppp0 and reconnecting it works
[11:45] <Liteee> i have root, kernel, initrd, savedefault, and boot
[11:45] <Liteee> which one do I add irqpoll to?
[11:45] <italoivo> anyone know how to solve this problem?
[11:46] <Liteee> didn't lose you did I crimsun_?
[11:46] <crimsun_> Liteee: kernel.
[11:46] <Liteee> ok
[11:47] <Liteee> then press b to boot it?
[11:47] <crimsun_> after you've edited it and pressed Enter
[11:47] <Liteee> yea
[11:47] <Liteee> booting now
[11:47] <crimsun_> I have a meeting soon, so I can't hold your hand through the rest of it.
[11:47] <Liteee> ok well I don't know the rest of it
[11:48] <visik7> !iptables
[11:48] <crimsun_> sure you do. Test sound
[11:48] <Liteee> what's going to happen?
[11:48] <Liteee> oh
[11:48] <crimsun_> if it's broken, look at dmesg
[11:48] <Liteee> k look for what?
[11:48] <crimsun_> snd_intel8x0
[11:48] <crimsun_> you'll have an irq handler error right above it
[11:49] <Liteee> i don't think it's booting. I just see a black screen
[11:49] <Liteee> it went through the boot process but now nothing
[11:50] <Liteee> yea it's not booting
[11:50] <stephenford> oh ok thats fair enough
[11:51] <stephenford> any pay for linux programs that do?
[11:51] <crimsun_> Liteee: well you've succeeded in doing /something/ that goes way beyond sound.
[11:51] <Liteee> i typed  irqpoll after the long kernel line and pressed b to boot it
[11:52] <[BU] Brizz> hah
[11:52] <[BU] Brizz> ./MAKEDEV audio worked a trest
[11:52] <[BU] Brizz> treat*
[11:53] <stephenford> it ok sorry cheers all
[11:53] <Liteee> i can try again. the kernel line says kernel then a bunch of other stuff. you want " irqpoll" at the very end of that line right?
[11:53] <GillesM> hello since I upgraded in dapper I got for all the gtk program the Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_window_set_back_pixmap(): pixmap must have a colormap
[11:53] <crimsun_> Liteee: well if it doesn't boot with irqpoll, then remove it and try without it
[11:53] <GillesM> and I have black gtk windows any idea ?
[11:53] <Liteee> well ok
[11:54] <Liteee> just like normal or with pressing "e" and the pressing b to boot
[11:54] <crimsun_> normal
[11:54] <crimsun_> I'm off to a meeting.
[11:54] <Liteee> ok
[11:55] <betty> hi
[11:58] <david__> hey hey, is there any way i can make the windows key open the k menu?
[11:59] <[BU] Brizz> david__: it's in System Settings
[11:59] <[BU] Brizz> david__: under Regional & Accessibility Settings
[11:59] <[BU] Brizz> david__: then Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:59] <aseigo> only if you make the windows key not a meta key
[11:59] <Liteee> ok i'm totally hosed. none of that helped my sound
[11:59] <[BU] Brizz> david__: the shortcut is called Popup Launch Menu
[12:00] <[BU] Brizz> ah
[12:00] <[BU] Brizz> hehe
[12:00] <[BU] Brizz> aseigo: is one step ahead of me...
[12:00] <david__> how do i go about making it a non meta key?
[12:02] <david__> well, i'm one step closer
[12:03] <david__> now i need to figure this meta deal
[12:03] <slow-motion> n8