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zulcrimsun_: eerie12:30
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zulBenC: its hasnt failed yet has it? :)01:59
BenCunfortunately I can't watch the builds for -security :(02:00
zulah..02:00
BenCbut I suspect it's going well, since no one has complained yet :)02:00
zulor no one is awake 02:00
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zulthen again02:00
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infinityNo one was awake.  I'll go check and see if I should be complaining.03:20
chuck_please03:20
infinityWhich one(s) am I looking at?03:20
infinityBen's latest 2.6.15 upload looks buggered all over.03:21
chuck_hoary/breezy is mine03:21
ajmitchmorning infinity 03:22
infinityYour latest 2.6.12 builds on amd64, but still fails on sparc (did you try to fix sparc?)03:22
chuck_no im trying to get sparc up and running03:22
chuck_and im trying to figure out whats wrong with it as well03:23
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zulinfinity: what about 2.6.10?03:43
infinityIt's fine.03:44
zulwhoo..03:44
infinity(For all I know, it's FTBFS on sparc too, but I don't build hoary on sparc/hppa)03:44
infinityAnd don't really intend to start.03:45
zulhehe03:45
crimsun_(offline for ~1 hr)04:06
zulnight folks04:27
BenCcrimsun_: fixed another build failure in cs46xx05:29
crimsun_BenC: besides the typo 5/6 one?05:33
BenCyeah, I picked up that patch, but there was one more in the .c file05:33
crimsun_ah geez05:34
crimsun_sorry 'bout that05:34
BenC-int snd_cs46xx_suspend(snd_card_t *card, pm_message_t state)05:34
BenC+int snd_cs46xx_suspend(struct pci_dev *pci, pm_message_t state);05:34
BenCnp05:34
BenCmy fault for not build testing after those last two patches05:34
crimsun_sheesh, silly me. Of course pci would have been undefined since it would have been missing as an actual parameter...05:37
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zulheylo12:56
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kimoI'm dying for sky2 driver update! When are we getting the kernel update :)02:36
fabbionekimo: probably tomorrow.02:44
fabbioneand the less you ask, the faster you get it. people don't have to spend time here to answer, but can work on it02:44
zuloh hey fabbione 02:45
zulgood game yesterday02:45
fabbionezul: thanks. next will be against US :)02:45
zulyou should win that game of course02:46
fabbionewe should yeah02:46
zulif not i will laugh and laugh02:47
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zulBenC: i have a couple of patches that im building now for dapper ill send them off tongiht04:05
fabbionezul: i have a lock on dapper kernel now04:11
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zulfabbione: hmmm?04:14
fabbionezul: i need to release for sparc now. No more changes until that's done04:14
fabbione.43 now builds and i need to make sure that one goes in and builds as it is04:15
zulfabbione: thats fine, ill just accumulate them until the lock is released04:15
fabbionezul: that's exactly what i was asking for :)04:15
fabbionethqanks04:15
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zulhmm...our junior tech typed in the bios password for a laptop wrong05:15
zuland now he cant get in05:16
fabbionemy wife did the same05:18
fabbionei need to find a way to reset it05:18
zultake the laptop apart and take out the bios battery?05:18
fabbioneyeah i will have to do when i have time05:19
mjg59Are you sure it's only the bios password?05:22
mjg59Laptops have secondary passwords that are stored in eeprom05:22
mjg59Only way to deal with them is take them apart until you can get access to the i2c bus, and then drive the eeprom directly05:23
mjg59And then try to work out what needs to be done to remove the password05:23
fabbionemjg59: pretty sure it's only the BIOS password05:24
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zulwhee...writing documenation is fun06:52
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=== mvo wonders what the minimum size of RAM we currently support. booting with mem=48M into single-user-mode gives me a "page allocation failure" when I try to load skge
BenCthat's probably not even enough for the kernel09:00
Keybukheh09:01
Keybukmvo: what did you try and boot?09:02
Keybukyou need about 20MB for the initramfs09:03
Keybukmaybe another 16MB or so for init and udev09:03
Keybukyou certainly need 8MB or so for the kernel itself09:04
Keybukand then it uses anything between 20MB-64MB of memory for its own nefarious purposes09:05
Keybukso minimum RAM would be 64MB on i386 and probably 96MB or more on amd6409:05
Keybuk(ps. holy christ that's a lot)09:06
Mithrandirserver claims to work on 64MB09:10
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KeybukMithrandir: depends how much swap space you have :p09:15
Keybuk64MB is probably the absolute minimum without swap, being only just enough to get the kernel and initramfs loaded09:15
maswanWell, does server install swap space by default?09:16
BenCeverything instals swap by default09:16
BenCexcept for diskless systems of course :)09:17
Mithrandirbut swapping over NFS is _so much fun_!09:18
maswanBtw, can I bug you guys with my silly feature requests now? Like shipping a vmlinux somewhere, and sensible default tcp window sizes? ;)09:18
mvoKeybuk: I'm using mem=64M now and it works a lot better (swapspace is pretty big)09:20
BenCmaswan: s/bug/propose a spec/09:23
BenCbetter hurry, UDS starts in 6 days09:24
maswanI guess, just feels silly to do that for a small fix. But I'll write something up then.09:26
BenCtcp windows needs to be discussed09:26
BenCvmlinux just file a bug09:27
BenCI think there's already one09:27
BenCproviding a patch to current git to install such a file would be your best bet there09:27
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maswanUnless you want to discuss providing a separate -debug package to save a few megs in the kernel package.09:28
maswanYes, there is indeed a wishlist bug for vmunix09:30
BenCI actually would like to see a linux-debug package, with the ABI file, vmlinux, and build-log09:32
BenCone for each flavour09:32
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maswanme too09:32
BenCit can be done just like the linux-headers package does09:32
BenCin debian/post-install09:33
maswansounds pretty encouraging then09:35
maswanWant me to put a comment with those two lines in the bug to remember it by, or are you one of those guys that remember things and so on? :)09:36
zulBenC: we tried that in breezy with all of the config options for debug turned on, it was huge09:47
BenCwell, I don't really mean a debug enabled kernel09:48
BenCjust the raw vmlinux from the actual build09:48
zulah i see09:48
BenCuncompressed, unstripped, etc09:48
zullater im out of here09:52
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zulBenC:  http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=9810933701a09f9c4dd0ad963d5ec2efb7df07b711:14
zulBenC: for 38851 couldnt  we just blacklist it?11:18
BenCzul: cherry-picked that commit11:19
BenClet me check 3885111:19
zulBenC: for dapper?11:19
BenCyeah11:19
BenCit's already in edgy's kernel11:20
zulahok11:20

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