[12:00] <Bassetts> whats a good audio converter??
[12:00] <Perkabalo> ok thanks! Really appreciate it!
[12:00] <QPAD|war-away> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:00] <keleus> Bassetts; from what format to what format?
[12:00] <JohnsonE> so guys, where might some remnants of VMware-player be hiding on my system? I tried all the uninstalls but the server still says there's a previous version.
[12:00] <daveyj> if someone could just tell me where/how to update the nvidia drivers i'd be more than greatful
[12:00] <Jowi> roostishaw: you should put it in /etc/init and symlink it to /etc/rc6.d with a proper name
[12:00] <Some_Person> i want a nice music player (wma/mp3/wav) for ubuntu, are there any?
[12:00] <_jason> valehru, Iinuxerist: note that you need an uppercase T, ~/.Trash
[12:00] <daveyj> via commandline
[12:01] <Bassetts> keleus, i would like if possible to convert to many things
[12:01] <funkja> I'm trying to compile gnome-libs and it tells me that I need Berkeley Database library. Where can I get this?
[12:01] <_jason> ubotu: tell daveyj about nvidia
[12:01] <Iinuxerist> _jason: Okay. I am on SuSE as I said.
[12:01] <Bassetts> keleus: but if not possible, mp3 to ogg
[12:01] <daveyj> i cant go to the webpage though :(
[12:01] <keleus> Bassetts look into sox, for starters. Otherwise, you can use mpg123 and pipe it through to oggenc :D
[12:01] <daveyj> i'm stuck in terminal.. the drivers got uninstalled when i used automatix
[12:01] <daveyj> and i cant boot into the xserver
[12:01] <Bassetts> keleus, ok thanks
[12:01] <valehru> thanks guys
[12:02] <_jason> daveyj: maybe you can use lynx?
[12:02] <daveyj> lynx.. not on here
[12:02] <Perkabalo> well just one more question, if I got 1024 ram and then the swap should be 2048, or is it enough with 1024 ? :)
[12:02] <daveyj> i tried that
[12:02] <keleus> daveyj; to get you at least back and running, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the nvidia driver decleration. change it to vesa.
[12:02] <roostishaw> Jowi, oh oh oh... so i need to put the actual script i want to run in /etc/init
[12:02] <roostishaw> ?
[12:02] <daveyj> vesa eh? :) nice thank you
[12:02] <Gradius9> hm, which filesystem is the most stable, and compatible for linux?
[12:02] <keleus> it will be slow but it works
[12:02] <Iinuxerist> Perkabalo: 1024 will be fine
[12:02] <chrisjw> fat32!!
[12:02] <Perkabalo> ok!
[12:02] <udo> crimsun External Amplifier',is 0 how can i do off
[12:02] <Gradius9> heh
[12:02] <keleus> daveyj; actually, make it nv
[12:02] <pizux> is someon could helpme under e16 my menu user don't work when i left clic
[12:02] <Gradius9> ext or reiser
[12:02] <crimsun_> udo: I gave you the command.
[12:03] <Some_Person> whats a good music player (wma/mp3/wav) for ubuntu?
[12:03] <Iinuxerist> Gradius9: ext
[12:03] <keleus> daveyj; its not quite vesa but its still not full support. its in between.
[12:03] <daveyj> minimal is fine
[12:03] <Gradius9> ok, someone recommended reiser, why?
[12:03] <JohnsonE> so guys, where might some remnants of VMware-player be hiding on my system? I tried all the uninstalls but the server still says there's a previous version.
[12:03] <daveyj> just til i can boot into gnome and get the nvidia drivers
[12:03] <daveyj> thanks again :)
[12:03] <Jowi> roostishaw: you don't absolutely have to, but it is proper to do it that way. and easier to manage
[12:03] <keleus> Driver      "nvidia"
[12:03] <keleus> change that to:
[12:03] <Gradius9> ext3, right?
[12:03] <keleus> Driver       "nv"
[12:04] <siriusnova> YES finally
[12:04] <siriusnova> Google Earth for Linux
[12:04] <keleus> ?
[12:05] <roostishaw> Jowi, and by init u mean init.d right?
[12:05] <keleus> siriusnova; im happy with maps.google.com :)
[12:05] <Some_Person> i want a nice music player (with gui) (able to play wma/mp3/wav) for ubuntu; what is available?
[12:05] <Jowi> roostishaw: yep
[12:05] <udo> i cant change it why
[12:05] <siriusnova> keleus - google earth just game out :D
[12:05] <roostishaw> Jowi, ok, thank you! ill try it now...
[12:05] <ompaul> daveyj, have you asked in #automatix how to work with this?
[12:05] <keleus> Some_Person; xmms is a decent one, like winamp
[12:05] <bartmaniac> hello I'm having troubles viewing a WMV file under mplayer. It says "Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x33564D57. Sound is working !
[12:06] <_jason> Some_Person: ubotu should have sent you a link to a list on the wiki
[12:06] <keleus> bartmaniac; did you install w32codecs?
[12:06] <Some_Person> it did
[12:06] <bartmaniac> keleus: yes
[12:06] <Some_Person> i want to know the best one
[12:06] <bartmaniac> keleus; can I check if they are installed properly?
[12:07] <keleus> bartmaniac; well, that 0x string is the video FourCC code
[12:07] <keleus> convert that to ASCII and break it in half
[12:07] <Some_Person> does mPlayer have a gui?
[12:07] <DarkRavenMixage> please help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation
[12:07] <keleus> that will help you find out what actual codec it is
[12:07] <keleus> Some_Person; gmplayer
[12:07] <muaddib> Hey Hey Hey
[12:07] <muaddib> DarkRavenMixage: Does your login id have permission to run kstartconfig
[12:07] <keleus> Some_Person; but when i tried it it was broken, no default skin (error and refused to launch)
[12:08] <Pupeno> DarkRavenMixage: if you are running kubuntu, I recommend going to #kubuntu (/join #kubuntu), otherwise #kde might be the answer (/join #kde).
[12:08] <ompaul> DarkRavenMixage, have you asked in #kubuntu?
[12:08] <Sneo> How much space does Ubuntu take up?
[12:08] <keleus> Some_Person; i mangled a basic skin to default and went from there :)
[12:08] <Henry_Bean_> Hola, tengo un problema con el booteo de una particin con windows... alguien me puede dar una mano?
[12:08] <Sneo> as in how much HD space do i need?
[12:08] <keleus> Sneo; however much you make it?
[12:08] <DarkRavenMixage> ompaul yes
[12:08] <DarkRavenMixage> ....
[12:08] <Sneo> Whats minimum though keleus?
[12:09] <Henry_Bean_> sorry, i entered the wrong channel
[12:09] <Gradius9> hm, ext3 is the newest?
[12:09] <Some_Person> how come RhythmBox wont play mp3s?
[12:09] <keleus> Sneo; how much do you have? running with minimum is gping to be tight
[12:09] <Jowi> Sneo: it will take up 1.5 GB for a desktop install. but you will need a minimum 3-3.5 GB for your / (root) partition for unpacking files.
[12:09] <keleus> !tell Some_Person about restrictedformats
[12:09] <ompaul> DarkRavenMixage, well they are the kde experts we are in the land of gnome ;-) ergo I asked, what puzzles me is that you can log in as root, that should not be possible
[12:09] <Ninjadude> guys i have a serious problem on my hands
[12:09] <krazykit> Ninjadude: is it pirates?
[12:09] <krazykit> ;-)
[12:10] <Ninjadude> worse
[12:10] <ompaul> armed turtles?
[12:10] <Ninjadude> i was experimenting with xgl and now i wanna go back to good ol' xorg
[12:10] <Mysta> !vnc
[12:10] <ubotu> somebody said vnc was http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[12:10] <Sneo> thanks all!
[12:10] <Ninjadude> and im sitting here in my session and everything is FUBAR
[12:10] <bartmaniac> keleus: sorry, but how to convert to ascii ?
[12:10] <krazykit> Ninjadude: that's not a problem, or shouldn't be
[12:10] <Ninjadude> is there any way for me to get my old windows back and such :(
[12:10] <krazykit> Ninjadude: what guide did you use?
[12:10] <keleus> Some_Person; mp3 has patent problems, so technically (in the USA for instance) you can't use it without paying someone... in this case anyways
[12:10] <Ninjadude> i thought reinstalling gdm will work but it doesnt
[12:10] <nostalg1c> is it same to write to a raid array while it is resyncing/rebuilding?
[12:10] <Ninjadude> krazykit: one sec ill get u a link
[12:10] <keleus> Some_Person; so basically theres no support for it unless you install something
[12:10] <Some_Person> what do i install
[12:11] <_absolution_> I downloaded the source code for enlightenment....will compiling the source code on Build essential work?
[12:11] <keleus> !restricted
[12:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[12:11] <keleus> read...
[12:11] <roostishaw> Jowi, hmm... i just did a reboot, but it didnt run any of the commands. would it be a problem if some of them were things like: sudo cp /file /file2
[12:11] <roostishaw> ?
[12:11] <Ninjadude> ok well
[12:11] <Ninjadude> i cant paste it to you
[12:11] <Ninjadude> because thats how messed up everything is
[12:11] <Ninjadude> i dont know if its my X or if its my gnome
[12:11] <iskywalker_> how can i make that it usbmouse and mousedev are loaded automatically?
[12:11] <Ninjadude> i think its gnome cuz i ran failsafe gnome and things were fine (aside from scripts not starting up)
[12:11] <ompaul> keleus, works better if you give the name of the person your talking to
[12:11] <krazykit> Ninjadude: um, what site?  google could help
[12:11] <Jowi> roostishaw: no idea :)
[12:12] <Ninjadude> doc.gwos.org
[12:12] <Ninjadude> is the site
[12:12] <maihem> hi all, anybody know how to run an X app as another user using sudo. I'm using `sudo -u ~user/app.bin`. the app starts okay but I get "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" and "Xlib: No protocol specified" I've tried copying my .Xauthority file to the other user's home directory and changing the owner, but no luck.
[12:12] <Jowi> roostishaw: probably no need to use sudo if the script is being run as root
[12:12] <keleus> bartmaniac; what was the error again?
[12:12] <DarkRavenMixage> please help me with KDE  i can only log in as the root if i log with the normal user it says could not start kstartconfig please check your installation
[12:12] <Ninjadude> all the bars used to move windows around etc are gone and i cant set focus using my mouse etc etc theres so many problems, sigh
[12:12] <Ninjadude> stupid XGL
[12:12] <roostishaw> Jowi, ok, ill try that...
[12:12] <Ninjadude> all this for wiggly windows
[12:13] <Ninjadude> i got rid of those script files too btw
[12:13] <DaveyJ> :)
[12:13] <DaveyJ> all better
[12:13] <Gradius9> hm, format as reiser4 or ext3? before install of linux.. does reiser4 have many disadvantages?
[12:13] <keleus> ompaul; sorry ,replying to Some_Person
[12:13] <krazykit> Ninjadude: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Installxgl ?
[12:13] <ompaul> DarkRavenMixage, couple you wait about 15 minutes between asks, it seems that no one knows the answer at this time
[12:13] <ompaul> !patience
[12:13] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[12:13] <Ninjadude> krazykit: no, it was the "switch between xgl and xorg" one
[12:13] <DaveyJ> i noticed when i was booted using the vesa driver, i actually had 2 monitors working.. although in mirror
[12:13] <Ninjadude> if you click on the "Dapper" link at the bottom of the page it has an index, go to the S section
[12:13] <DaveyJ> can i do that with xgl?
[12:13] <ompaul> DarkRavenMixage, how come you got a root password that I find curious
[12:13] <krazykit> oh, ok, i saw that one too, Ninjadude. lemme just check it out
[12:13] <Ninjadude> k
[12:14] <Ninjadude> DaveyJ: dont touch XGL, it's the devil.
[12:14] <DaveyJ> lol i disagree
[12:14] <Ninjadude> and no, last i checked xgl doesnt support dual monitors
[12:14] <DaveyJ> i've been using it for a few weeks
[12:14] <DaveyJ> and its nice
[12:14] <Ninjadude> yea? can u run opengl games on it?
[12:14] <bartmaniac> keleus: not able to play wmv files, just sound is ok no video
[12:14] <Ninjadude> its impressive tech wise, ill say......i did enjoy the cube thing
[12:14] <nico8481> re
[12:14] <keleus> bartmaniac; i was refering to "0x33564D57" but i found it :) im researching...
[12:15] <Ninjadude> krazykit: it really seems like this is a gnome issue and not an X thing, cuz that tutorial doesnt have you modding any of X's files
[12:15] <DarkRavenMixage> ompaul go to the
[12:15] <DarkRavenMixage> users and groups
[12:15] <nico8481> how can i get the same output that the one of "apt-cache show <package>" but for an *installed* package?
[12:15] <Ninjadude> which is a good thing (phew)
[12:15] <DarkRavenMixage> and change the root password >P
[12:15] <nico8481> i mean the same info
[12:16] <krazykit> Ninjadude: err... you said you used gdm?  didn't you make a new entry for it?  can't you just use the old one?
[12:16] <nico8481> that is, package info, version, md5sum...
[12:16] <Ninjadude> krazykit: i think the default got overwritten
[12:16] <Ninjadude> and i just wanna reset it all :(
[12:16] <keleus> bartmaniac; well, literally that translates into 3VMW but... endian issue.... reverse it and it becomes clear: WMV3
[12:16] <krazykit> Ninjadude: ah-hah!  and now we're getting to the problem
[12:16] <Ninjadude> yep
[12:16] <keleus> bartmaniac; so at least now we know what codec SHOULD be used
[12:16] <Ninjadude> and if this helps,
[12:17] <DaveyJ> so its not possible for multiple monitors using xgl?
[12:17] <DaveyJ> how about different sessions on different monitors
[12:17] <Ninjadude> when i go to system->preferences->windows
[12:17] <krazykit> Ninjadude: this might work.  "sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm" then "sudo apt-get install gdm"
[12:17] <Ninjadude> it complains "Cannot start the preferences application for your window manager"
[12:17] <Ninjadude> lemme give that a try.........restart afterwards, im assuming?
[12:17] <keleus> bartmaniac; you would think that was Windows Media Video 3.... but thats actually the codec for Windows Media Player 9
[12:17] <dan> HI !
[12:17] <krazykit> Ninjadude: for now, you can start a window manager.  metacity &
[12:17] <Maestro739> how do i partion when install ubuntu
[12:17] <dan> I have a trouble wih konqueror
[12:18] <ompaul> DarkRavenMixage, that is not really a good idea, log out, then log into a console (Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get there) and do this, cd ~yourusername ; chown -R username:username .*
[12:18] <dan> I've loss the Preview in konqueror
[12:18] <dan> how to correct this ?
[12:18] <jojoman02> google earth for linux is out, get it now, http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[12:18] <Ninjadude> ok i purged gdm
[12:18] <Ninjadude> and now im installing it again
[12:19] <bartmaniac> keleus: hmm so can i solve it by just doing sudo apt-get install something?
[12:19] <keleus> bartmaniac; does this file exist? /usr/lib/win32/wmv9dmod.dll
[12:19] <krazykit> jojoman02: holy crap, cool.
[12:19] <dan> someone to help with konqueror preview of file ??
[12:19] <ompaul> DarkRavenMixage, I guess that you have changed the permissions to log in as you - cos you used something you don't need - root see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  to disable root
[12:19] <krazykit> Ninjadude: that should have wiped all the configs.  in theory.
[12:19] <Jimmy89> can i have some help installing network manager
[12:19] <Jowi> dan: probably alot more people using konqueror in #kubuntu :)
[12:19] <Ninjadude> krazykit: i noticed it uninstalled ubuntu-desktop as well......but installing gdm didnt restore this package.....do i have to manually install it
[12:19] <DarkRavenMixage> ompaul
[12:19] <Jimmy89> im using the synaptic package thing
[12:19] <DarkRavenMixage> i figured my problem with kde
[12:19] <DarkRavenMixage> the kde folder is privileged under root
[12:19] <Jimmy89> and i have network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed
[12:19] <jojoman02> krazykit, it's the beta 4 one
[12:19] <DarkRavenMixage> so my user cannot write
[12:19] <krazykit> Ninjadude: it's not important, really.  you can manually install it again, though.
[12:19] <DarkRavenMixage> in it
[12:19] <Ninjadude> ok well as long as it all works
[12:20] <JohnsonE> ok guys, most basic of all questions
[12:20] <Ninjadude> im gonna give the machine a kickstart
[12:20] <Ninjadude> brb
[12:20] <DarkRavenMixage> how to grant access to a directory and his subdirectories via console??
[12:20] <bartmaniac> keleus: not the file "wmv9dmod.dll" do not exist on my system
[12:20] <marquez> hola a todos
[12:20] <Maestro739> can some one help me install ubuntu
[12:20] <JohnsonE> let's say i download a .tar.gz file. what's the normal process for installing whatever is inside?
[12:20] <Mysta> If I need a vnc server on xubuntu, do I just install vino? will this allow me to remote onto my xubuntu install from other machines?
[12:20] <keleus> bartmaniac; im uploading it to my webserver now, hold on
[12:20] <dan> thank Jowi !!!
[12:20] <ompaul> DarkRavenMixage, please put all your comments on one line - your current activity is spamming the channel
[12:20] <Jimmy89> anyone know how to set up network-manager?
[12:20] <Jowi> ubotu: tell JohnsonE about compile
[12:21] <ompaul> DarkRavenMixage, log out, then log into a console (as root) (Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get there) and do this, cd ~yourusername ; chown -R username:username .*
[12:21] <DarkRavenMixage> ompaul how can i give privileges of a directory and his subdirectories to an user via console?
[12:21] <Absenth> Does 64-bit Drake support the closed source nvidia drivers?
[12:21] <keleus> bartmaniac; ok, the file is at http://keleus.freeshell.org/wmv9dmod.dll
[12:21] <keleus> put it here: /usr/lib/win32/wmv9dmod.dll
[12:22] <mcrash> que tal marquez
[12:22] <ompaul> !es
[12:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:22] <keleus> then do "chown root:root /usr/lib/win32/wmv9dmod.dll" and "chmod u=rw,g=r,o=r /usr/lib/win32/wmv9dmod.dll"
[12:22] <keleus> youll need to use SUDO to do that, as well as copying the file in place
[12:23] <Ninjadude> sigh
[12:23] <keleus> bartmaniac; you get all of that?
[12:23] <mcrash> I want to practice my english Ubotu
[12:23] <mcrash> ;)
[12:23] <Ninjadude> krazykit: nope, didnt fix it :(
[12:23] <ompaul> !bot
[12:23] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[12:23] <krazykit> Ninjadude: are you sure you're using the right session?  have you tried failsafe gnome?
[12:23] <keleus> bartmaniac; wait.... ignore all that
[12:23] <Luke> Jimmy89: did you figure out how to set up NetworkManager?
[12:23] <bartmaniac> keleus: i 'm trying, have already downloaded your file
[12:23] <keleus> if you put the file there, remove it.
[12:23] <Ninjadude> lemme boot out and do failsafe gnome
[12:23] <scenestar> OI
[12:24] <keleus> bartmaniac; ok download the file to your home, and wait a second...
[12:24] <Luke> Jimmy89: are you talking about NetworkManager or network-admin?
[12:24] <try_iT_556> hello
[12:24] <scenestar> how can I have apt ignore a package
[12:24] <try_iT_556> OI
[12:24] <scenestar> i have ndiswrapper utils that works
[12:24] <roler> how do I change the default term type in gnome-terminal?
[12:24] <scenestar> but theres a slight problem in my controll file
[12:24] <ompaul> !test
[12:24] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[12:24] <scenestar> do i need to reconfigure the package
[12:24] <scenestar> or can i just pin it?
[12:24] <keleus> bartmaniac; im gona PM you this so you can do it easier. ill give you the actual commands youll need to run
[12:24] <ompaul> !pinning
[12:24] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[12:24] <scenestar> anyone not retarded feel free to anwer
[12:25] <try_iT_556> hey guys i am having problems with Ubuntu multiverse, i dont know why gzip tells me the Packages.gz file is corrupted :-(
[12:25] <Ninjadude> krazykit: ok, failsafe looks to be good, with the exception of it said its not running my scripts
[12:25] <_jason> roler: use the usermod command to change your user's default shell (I think that's the only way)
[12:25] <Ninjadude> and i got some error about power management too
[12:25] <keleus> bartmaniac; join channel #helpingbart
[12:25] <krazykit> Ninjadude: that's to be expected.
[12:25] <Ninjadude> krazykit: weird thing is, im still seeing the "XGL" option under the sessions even tho i deleted all the scipts
[12:25] <Ninjadude> *scripts
[12:26] <roler> _jason, ; not the shell, the term type...
[12:26] <try_iT_556> i excluded multiverse from my apt source list, and now its ok... any problem with the multiverse repository?
[12:26] <pianoboy3333> What files does network-manager edit? Like, if I had to put in a network or configure wlan0 by hand, what files/command line programs would I use
[12:26] <aLPHa_LeaK> pianoboy3333: iwconfig
[12:26] <krazykit> Ninjadude: you may have deleted the scripts, but...did you delete /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop ?
[12:26] <Ninjadude> hoho, lets find out
[12:26] <_jason> roler: k, not sure what that means then
[12:26] <Ninjadude> no. no i didnt v_v
[12:27] <Ninjadude> ok lemme do that
[12:27] <Ninjadude> ok that was deleted
[12:27] <krazykit> Ninjadude: while you're at it, do "ls /usr/share/xsessions/" ... you should probaly have a gnome.desktop or something to that effect
[12:27] <Ninjadude> yep i have that
[12:27] <Ninjadude> gnome.desktop
[12:27] <krazykit> ok, could you pastebin that for me?
[12:27] <Ninjadude> sure thing
[12:27] <Jimmy89> anyone know how to set up network-manager?
[12:27] <krazykit> just to make sure you didn't mess with that :-P
[12:27] <Jimmy89> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/NetworkManager?action=show&redirect=NetworkManager
[12:28] <Ninjadude> http://pastebin.com/705370
[12:28] <Bassetts> can i make gnome save my session so when i log back in it is restored, like in breezy??
[12:28] <Jimmy89> i woudl have though nano /etc/network/interfaces
[12:28] <Ninjadude> seems like a bunch of international language stuff
[12:28] <Jimmy89> and then delete auto
[12:28] <Jimmy89> but i dont have permission to write
[12:28] <Mysta> Jimmy89, add sudo
[12:29] <Jimmy89> do what?
[12:29] <Mysta> Jimmy89, sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[12:29] <Mysta> Jimmy89, be careful what you change, I'd back up the file before hand
[12:29] <Ninjadude> always good to back stuff up -_-
[12:29] <krazykit> Ninjadude: that looks fine.  try logging out of failsafe gnome and into regular gnome.
[12:30] <Ninjadude> krazykit: you think the deletion of the xgl one will take care of my probs?
[12:30] <manni_mantaa> http://tinyurl.com/lpn8h LOL
[12:30] <krazykit> Ninjadude: hopefully
[12:30] <Jimmy89> ty mate
[12:30] <Mysta> Jimmy89, no prob
[12:30] <Ninjadude> arite ill be back in a sec........should i just ctrl+alt+backspace or should i do a full reboot
[12:30] <Jimmy89> i had to delete auto in front of the network interfaces to get network-manger to use it
[12:31] <Ninjadude> meh full is healthier, brb
[12:31] <plop> crimsun_: are you still here mate?
[12:32] <crimsun_> plop: yes, but busy
[12:32] <Jimmy89> where does network-manger go?
[12:32] <Jimmy89> as far as i can see it should be installed
[12:33] <JohnsonE> i accidentally removed trash from the panel >_> how do i put it back
[12:33] <_jason> JohnsonE: right click on the panel > add to panel > drag trash back in
[12:33] <inrelief> anybody have advice/suggestions on getting the fglrx driver working with radeon mobility?
[12:33] <aLPHa_LeaK> JohnsonE: right click
[12:33] <loanwolf> ? default install of ubuntu 6.06...whats making it slow
[12:33] <NedSchnittt> I am trying to install kqemu on on xubuntu.  it cannot find the kernel includes... help! *newb*
[12:33] <keleus> bartmaniac; ok, full instructions are here: http://pastebin.com/705385
[12:34] <Ninjadude> krazykit: ok here's what happened....i logged in like normal and it gave me some message
[12:34] <keleus> bartmaniac; but, just to tell you... it appears that w32codecs isn't installed properly (or mplayer wasn't installed from a package. if you compiled it yourself, figure out how to make it look in /usr/lib/codecs for codec files)
[12:34] <Ninjadude> saying something about how i didnt have a Default login and asking me if i wanted to make the failsafe the default............i hit the "Just Log In" button to see what happens
[12:34] <Ninjadude> and its still broken
[12:35] <Bassetts> is there a way to enable the option to save the session like in breezy??
[12:35] <krazykit> Ninjadude: hum... lemme get this straight.  failsafe is now your default login, and gnome-session is still broken?
[12:35] <bartmaniac> keleus: thanks I will try in a minute
[12:36] <Ninjadude> well sorta.....it wants to make failsafe my default login because i dont have a default apparently
[12:36] <Concord_Dawn> hi everyone. What's the new package that has replaced w32codecs in dapper?
[12:36] <Ninjadude> and it gave me an option with a button that said "Just Log In" so i did that
[12:36] <Ninjadude> and that's broken
[12:36] <keleus> bartmaniac; your welcome. Not that if it throws errors about directories existing, dont worry (i only included making them in case they wern't, which would cause the rest to fail)
[12:36] <visik7> google earth for linux !native (maybe seems(
[12:36] <Ninjadude> and if i try to go into the system->preferences->windows option it says
[12:36] <visik7> packit packit packit :)
[12:37] <Ninjadude> Window manager "unknown" has not registered a configuration tool
[12:37] <krazykit> Ninjadude: failsafe is broken, or regular gnome-session?
[12:37] <Ninjadude> krazykit: regular session is broken, failsafe seems to be fine aside from not loading scripts but of course thats sposed to happen
[12:38] <krazykit> Ninjadude: can you open a terminal?  if so, in it, type "metacity &"
[12:38] <keleus> bartmaniac; whoops, i messed up the order on those commands... move the cp command after the mkdir /usr/lib/codecs command
[12:38] <loanwolf> ? whats making ubunti dapper slow.....it make my mandriva look like lighting speed
[12:38] <Ninjadude> WHOA
[12:38] <Ninjadude> dude that fixed it
[12:38] <amortvigil> hey how to upgrade from a just burned ubuntu dapper cd/
[12:38] <amortvigil> ?
[12:38] <Ninjadude> krazykit: that worked, what'd you do O_O
[12:38] <krazykit> Ninjadude: i started your window manager.
[12:38] <Ninjadude> lol
[12:38] <Ninjadude> i know
[12:38] <Ninjadude> but the question is
[12:38] <Ninjadude> why wasnt it started o_O
[12:39] <zenithsglint> heh, what do I type to cleanly uninstall thunderbird?
[12:39] <amortvigil> hey how to upgrade from a just burned ubuntu dapper cd?
[12:39] <nickrud> amortvigil, put in the cd, it should ask if you want to upgrade
[12:39] <krazykit> Ninjadude: dunno.  i'd say to log out and save the session.
[12:39] <amortvigil> ok
[12:39] <Ninjadude> lol
[12:39] <Ninjadude> good call ^_^
[12:39] <Ninjadude> that scares me though
[12:39] <krazykit> Ninjadude: or save the session, if you can without logging out
[12:39] <Ninjadude> why would metacity decide not to start....
[12:39] <Ninjadude> how does one do that ?
[12:39] <nickrud> Ninjadude, alt-f2 , gnome-session-save
[12:39] <krazykit> Ninjadude: no clue.  i don't have gnome installed ;-)
[12:39] <Ninjadude> thanks nick
[12:39] <keleus> Ninjadude; something somehwere has to be told to launch it... and it isn't
[12:40] <Ninjadude> my session has been saved.
[12:40] <Ninjadude> and so has my sanity!
[12:40] <Ninjadude> w00t
[12:40] <Ninjadude> krazykit: thank u sir
[12:40] <briguy2799> anyone else here use Ubuntu's Wine Build and plays WoW, having problems downloading the new patch?
[12:40] <Bassetts> can i have the option to save my session?
[12:40] <krazykit> Ninjadude: oh, i think i have it.  you did compiz, perhaps accidentally saved your session WITHOUT metacity, and when you went back, metacity wasn't being called for.
[12:40] <Ninjadude> ahhhhh
[12:40] <Ninjadude> that would make sense
[12:40] <Ninjadude> yea actually come to think of it i think i had that checkboxed checked
[12:41] <Ninjadude> the "automatically save my stuff" one or whatever
[12:41] <Ninjadude> excellente
[12:41] <delire> has anyone here experienced a bug whereby changing the panel size means you can no longer log in? mv'ing ~/.gconf resolves the issue but no meaningful ~/.xsession-errors are produced.
[12:41] <krazykit> Ninjadude: whoops.  well, glad it's fixed.  i gotta go now :-)
[12:41] <Ninjadude> cool, thanks for ur help
[12:41] <amortvigil> nickrud: it wont
[12:41] <Bassetts> no one?
[12:41] <plop> lol here comes the bastard op from hell :)
[12:41] <briguy2799> awww no one?
[12:42] <Bassetts> can i have the option to save my session?
[12:42] <cdd> i missed the question
[12:42] <ToHellWithGA> Bassetts: how do you want to save the session?
[12:42] <kag> hi everybody, I have a Diamond FireGL 1000 AGP card, and I cannot change the refresh rate from 60Hz to something higher. Where should I look first to work this out?
[12:42] <briguy2799> anyone else here use Ubuntu's Wine Build and plays WoW, having problems downloading the new patch?
[12:42] <ToHellWithGA> like windows' "hibernate" mode?
[12:42] <Joe_scorp> can someone help me real quick?
[12:42] <whooper> Hello! I've just installed ubuntu, and can't figure out how to set the screen resolution to 1680x1050.... any ideas?
[12:42] <_Nick> pessoal depois q rodo um programa como fcil para compilar o executvel usando linha de comando?
[12:42] <ToHellWithGA> _Nick: /j #ubuntu-es
[12:42] <_Nick> *depois q compilo um programa
[12:42] <nickrud> amortvigil, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades has the steps when it doesn't
[12:42] <josh> i got linux unbuntu does it come with its own server
[12:43] <nomis_> if someone is interessted. google earth for linux is released. http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[12:43] <Bassetts> ToHellWithGA: like in breezy, i want the option to save on log out
[12:43] <_Nick> sorry, my bad
[12:43] <ToHellWithGA> whooper: do you have an intel video card?
[12:43] <whooper> ToHellWithGA: no, nvidia..
[12:43] <ToHellWithGA> did you get the nvidia drivers?
[12:43] <whooper> ToHellWithGA: umm no, just default install
[12:43] <davvyk> has anyone here manged to get the linksys wusb11 usb wifi adapter working in ubuntu??
[12:43] <MrBallZ> What's the best location to install googleearth ?    default was  /home/user/  , but i ran it as sudo and it was  /usr/local/   , now there's no icon, and to run it I have to run it from command line with sudo ...
[12:44] <ToHellWithGA> i'd imagine nvidia drivers would help you get access to more of your card's features
[12:44] <Concord_Dawn> do I need w32codecs to play Mp3's in rythymbox?
[12:44] <ToHellWithGA> !nvidia
[12:44] <Tobberoth> I just downloaded Comix, but it won't open my cbr files!
[12:44] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:44] <whooper> ah, thanks
[12:44] <ToHellWithGA> Concord_Dawn: no.  you need to enable multiverse/universe
[12:44] <bartmaniac> keleus: ok thanks! Now I can view those wmv files !!
[12:44] <Bassetts> ToHellWithGA: is that possible?
[12:44] <ToHellWithGA> Concord_Dawn: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+mp3
[12:44] <mcrash> Concord_Dawn: install automatix
[12:45] <Joe_scorp> Im trying to run a gaming sever, when i try to run the .elf as root acount, i get a permision denied Bash
[12:45] <delire> mcrash: no, easy ubuntu is better, it doesn't manipulate config files.
[12:45] <josh> how do u install programs with linux
[12:45] <Joe_scorp> can someone help
[12:45] <ToHellWithGA> Bassetts: i just have a few programs set to run on startup.  what changes about your session when you logout?
[12:45] <kbrooks> I realize that I am being offtopic here, but what features would anyone want in EasyUbuntu (PM me them).
[12:45] <nickrud> MrBallZ, try sudo chmod a+x /usr/local/google-earth/googleearth, that should alow you to run it
[12:45] <kbrooks> delire: thats a myth
[12:45] <davvyk> has anyone here manged to get the linksys wusb11 usb wifi adapter working in ubuntu??
[12:45] <plop> crimsun_: if you have a sec, i managed to get uncrypted connection working but still have troubles with WEP
[12:45] <Bassetts> ToHellWithGA: i would just like to come back to my session how i left it sometimes, like kde does
[12:45] <delire> kbrooks: it certainly manipulated my sources.list when i tried it.
[12:45] <Joe_scorp>  Im trying to run a gaming sever, when i try to run the .elf as root acount, i get a permision denied Bash
[12:45] <Bassetts> ToHellWithGA: not all the time though, im sure breezy had the option
[12:45] <kbrooks> delire: easyubuntu DOES manipulate config files too
[12:46] <mcrash> delire:  ok, test easy ubuntu
[12:46] <kbrooks> delire: BOTH easyubuntu and automatix can break systems
[12:46] <delire> kbrooks: it doesn't touch the sources.list, most importantly.
[12:46] <ToHellWithGA> Joe_scorp: repeating yourself gets you nowhere.  rephrasing might help, but up to 847 other people just read it when you said that twice
[12:46] <ToHellWithGA> if somebody can help, they'll help
[12:46] <siriusnova> hey am i the only one getting opengl corruption ?
[12:46] <kbrooks> delire: huh? it does - if you tell it to
[12:46] <delire> mcrash: i have tried both.
[12:46] <siriusnova> i installed a fresh dapper install and now all my opengl apps and games flicker and look corrupted
[12:46] <ToHellWithGA> siriusnova: yes.  you're the only one... could you explain it better?
[12:46] <josh> di downloaded googleearth on linux but need to install it how?
[12:47] <plop> anyone managed to get synaptics working in dapper as it was in breezy, my synaptics is totally buggy after upgrade :(
[12:47] <seanb64> Hi
[12:47] <ToHellWithGA> is it a sync problem?
[12:47] <siriusnova> before when i was tracking Dapper Betas and it was working fine
[12:47] <loanwolf> i thought ubunti dapper was supose to be a fast running distro.. it make my mandriva that i came from look like the speed of light
[12:47] <delire> kbrooks: i tried automatix several months ago and it didn't ask, but manipulated my sources.list nonetheless.
[12:47] <edneymatias> bye!
[12:47] <crimsun_> plop: what stanzas are you using for WEP? (sanitise and pastebin)
[12:47] <nickrud> josh, sh ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[12:47] <delire> kbrooks: the situation may be different now.
[12:47] <josh> how do u install programs
[12:47] <Concord_Dawn> plop: I haven't. Command line runs faster anyways. *pats his 465Mhz*
[12:47] <visik7> josh: chmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin ; ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[12:47] <siriusnova> ToHellWithGa - no it just renders weird, here is a screenshot in the new google earth client http://web.umr.edu/~taknnc/Screenshot.png
[12:47] <siriusnova> before i did a fresh install everything was fine
[12:47] <seanb64> can anyone here help me with the PPC version of Dapper
[12:48] <siriusnova> and the google earth client was fine too
[12:48] <ToHellWithGA> siriusnova: holy moly that looks funky
[12:48] <delire> josh use 'Synaptic' to download install packages made especially for Ubuntu. programs you download from websites (rarely done) depends on the file type.
[12:48] <kbrooks> delire: it is. :-)
[12:48] <siriusnova> ToHellWithGa - i know, bad mesa implementation?
[12:48] <psyke83_> hi, is there a program like "alien" to create a deb from a .bin file? I wanna package Google Earth 4 Beta
[12:48] <delire> kbrooks: right.
[12:48] <visik7> psyke83_: no there isn't from a bin
[12:48] <SurfnKid> i couldnt be happier running on my old Vaio
[12:48] <Joe_scorp> root@joe-room:/home/joe/Desktop/goserver# ./goserver.elf -profile server.prf
[12:48] <Joe_scorp> ./goserver.elf: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:48] <Joe_scorp> The directory exists in that, what am i doing wrong??
[12:48] <plop> crimsun_: http://pastebin.com/705417
[12:48] <keleus> bartmaniac; still, i would investigate that w32codecs package... i'm wondering why you were missing that file
[12:49] <kbrooks> delire: once again, easyubuntu and automatix CAN break systems
[12:49] <thomasM> bins are actual installer programs, not just packages.
[12:49] <ToHellWithGA> siriusnova: the more you dig into it the more somebody is likely to help you.  i don't know much at all about 3d apps, however.  i'm still a sidescrolling kind of guy
[12:49] <plop> crimsun_: http://pastebin.com/705417, i tried both ways but none working
[12:49] <a12ctic> hello?
[12:49] <kbrooks> delire: people have reported easyubuntu breaking systems too
[12:49] <keleus> YAY! I'm now officially not a newb...
[12:49] <delire> kbrooks: i've used easy ubuntu on some 30 machines in two universities and had excellent results. lucky perhaps.
[12:49] <loanwolf> ????? anyone able to tell me why ubuntu dapper is soooo sloooowwww
[12:49] <kbrooks> delire: that's you
[12:49] <whooper> anyone know if linux-restricted-modules-686 or -386 should be used with amd athlon xp?
[12:49] <kbrooks> anyway
[12:49] <plop> Concord_Dawn: talking about synapticS not synaptic, apt-get rulez :)
[12:50] <crimsun_> plop: comment out key_mgmt=NONE
[12:50] <kbrooks> plop: there is no "synaptics"
[12:50] <nickrud> fresh installs are a lot safer with bot of those tools
[12:50] <mcrash> no problem with automatix
[12:50] <keleus> whooper; you can use 686
[12:50] <Concord_Dawn> ah, sorries plop.
[12:50] <thomasM> you want to use k7.
[12:50] <thomasM> no don't use 686. use k7.
[12:50] <bartmaniac> keleus: maybe i installed and uninstalled to much and too often.
[12:50] <crimsun_> plop: then restart wpa_supplicant
[12:50] <keleus> whooper; but as thomasM said use k7 if you can
[12:50] <a12ctic> hey, my buddy is having problems with his internet on ubuntu 6.06, hes connected directly to the roouter with a enthranet cord and he has dhcp any ideas?
[12:50] <josh> ive downloaded googleearth to my desktop but dont know how to install it!
[12:50] <crimsun_> plop: (or ifdown+ifup)
[12:50] <whooper> keleus: ok, thanks..
[12:50] <delire> kbrooks: yes, the synaptics touch pad configurator. it exists in Debian at least.
[12:50] <plop> crimsun_: restart ? it is not a service anymore
[12:50] <nickrud> whooper, install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) matches your running kernel
[12:50] <plop> crimsun_: ok :)
[12:50] <Mysta> If I need a vnc server on xubuntu, do I just install vino? will this allow me to remote onto my xubuntu install from other machines?
[12:50] <ToHellWithGA> a12ctic: what isn't working?
[12:50] <keleus> bartmaniac; would you like a list of what my directory has in it? (so you know what might be missing?
[12:50] <delire> kbrooks: actually no, it's the synaptics driver itself..
[12:51] <kbrooks> delire: ?
[12:51] <a12ctic> he isnt getting a internet connection
[12:51] <crimsun_> plop: I have to cover all stable releases
[12:51] <ToHellWithGA> saying "problems with the internet" is like saying "problems with his girlfriend"
[12:51] <plop> synaptics!
[12:51] <plop> !synaptics
[12:51] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, plop
[12:51] <bartmaniac> keleus: yes that would be a good idea
[12:51] <ToHellWithGA> a12ctic: does he have a DNS server defined?
[12:51] <aLPHa_LeaK> !synaptic
[12:51] <ubotu> it has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[12:51] <delire> kbrooks: it's an ongoing confusion for new users of Debian. synaptic != synaptics
[12:51] <a12ctic> umm no
[12:51] <aLPHa_LeaK> plop
[12:51] <ToHellWithGA> a12ctic: can he ping IPs?
[12:51] <kbrooks> delire: what is that? i havent heard of *synaptics* but i have heard of synaptic
[12:51] <plop> crimsun_: my bad didn't read your last line :)
[12:51] <a12ctic> ino he cant
[12:51] <plop> aLPHa_LeaK: ?
[12:51] <ToHellWithGA> so you tried to ping IPs and not addresses, right?
[12:52] <aLPHa_LeaK> plop: oops ;)
[12:52] <aLPHa_LeaK> sorry
[12:52] <a12ctic> yes
[12:52] <josh> ive downloaded gogoleearth to my desktop but dont knwoi how to install it!
[12:52] <plop> aLPHa_LeaK: pas de prob :)
[12:52] <kbrooks> delire: please tell me what synaptics  is.
[12:52] <thomasM> k ubuntu-xgl is dead, maybe somebody here can help me. like 10 times today i've accidentally hit ctrl backspace, anybody know how I can disable this, and ctrl alt shift?
[12:52] <a12ctic> its not connecting to the router period
[12:52] <nickrud> josh, sh ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[12:52] <whooper> just a question on the side; i'm used to debian and apt-get xxx.. is it better to use the synaptic package manager thing instead? =)
[12:52] <ToHellWithGA> a12ctic: is the interface enabled?
[12:52] <a12ctic> yep
[12:52] <kbrooks> whooper: "better"?
[12:52] <ToHellWithGA> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeird
[12:52] <aLPHa_LeaK> kbrooks: its a driver for pointing devices iirc
[12:52] <nickrud> whooper, samo samo, synaptics is kinda nice for browsing packages though
[12:52] <bernier> whopper exactly the same
[12:52] <thomasM> o snap i didn't know there was a googleearth for linux :D
[12:52] <Alexi5> what command can i use in a ftp client to get the number of files in the directory
[12:52] <a12ctic> it says its active as well
[12:52] <kbrooks> whooper: if you're used to apt-get, then use it
[12:52] <whooper> kbrooks: i mean, is there any difference? or is synaptic just a frontend to apt-get?
[12:53] <AMDfanboy> hi, how do i log into X from the prompt?  i accidentally turned off graphical logins in the sessions menu.
[12:53] <delire> kbrooks: eg: "gsynaptics - configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver of X server". always get's newbies..
[12:53] <whooper> kbrooks:  ok, thanks..
[12:53] <thomasM> whooper it doesn't matter
[12:53] <kbrooks> whooper: its a frontend
[12:53] <josh> it says no such file or directory
[12:53] <Tobberoth> When I try to start cbrpager, it says: "sh: unrar: command not found"
[12:53] <thomasM> whooper, do whatever you feel is easier.
[12:53] <aLPHa_LeaK> AMDfanboy: startx
[12:53] <Tobberoth> how do I fix?
[12:53] <keleus> bartmaniac; ok. i think everything in /usr/lib/win32 on mine are links to /usr/lib/codecs files, but heres a "ls -Lla" of both...
[12:53] <Xoritor> is there something wrong with the apache2 virtual hosting on ubuntu?
[12:53] <plop> kbrooks: synaptics touchpad?
[12:53] <nickrud> AMD_XP, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[12:53] <seanb64> Anyone kon why when I try to boot off fof the Ubuntu PPC live CD, it goes through the boot procedure, past the splash, then says it couldn't start X becuase it wasn't configured properly?
[12:53] <keleus> http://pastebin.com/705423 http://pastebin.com/705426
[12:53] <Xoritor> NameVirtualHost *:80 does not work right
[12:53] <keleus> bartmaniac; http://pastebin.com/705423 and http://pastebin.com/705426
[12:53] <loanwolf> ?? i thought ubuntu dapper was supose to be a good fast running distro..... moves slower then my last install on mandriva 2006
[12:54] <kbrooks> loanwolf: its your kernel
[12:54] <AMDfanboy> thanks!
[12:54] <josh> how do u install programs
[12:54] <josh> linux is too compliacted
[12:54] <a12ctic> enthranet ususualy configures itself, maby his card isnt supporteD?
[12:54] <AMDfanboy> startx, i'll try it in a minutes
[12:54] <thomasM> loanwolf, could also be your theme.
[12:54] <keleus> bartmaniac; those pages should stay up for a month, but i would save them somewhere
[12:54] <seanb64> hello???
[12:54] <jughead> josh, it depends on the program
[12:54] <kbrooks> josh: it isnt too complicated
[12:54] <josh> lol
[12:54] <seanb64> anyone here can help me?
[12:54] <kbrooks> josh:
[12:54] <josh> i need help installing programs
[12:54] <a12ctic> apt-get install "what you want" easy mode, 10x easir than windows
[12:54] <josh> can any1helo
[12:54] <jughead> Actually, I have a question about installing software myelf
[12:54] <ToHellWithGA> josh: you can get programs from your package manager, as binaries, or as source
[12:54] <delire> josh: it's very easy once you know how. it's best you read this: http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[12:54] <josh> im a complete n00b at linux
[12:54] <JohnsonE> so guys, where might some remnants of VMware-player be hiding on my system? I tried all the uninstalls but the server still says there's a previous version.
[12:54] <markgrif> Add/Remove progams in in the menu.
[12:55] <josh> ta
[12:55] <bartmaniac> keleus: ok i will compare it with my stuff!!. Now I need to get some sleep.
[12:55] <jughead> ToHellWithGA, how do you install if you have a binary?
[12:55] <plop> crimsun_: no connection, nothing in syslog, where can i get an idea of what is going on ?
[12:55] <nickrud> josh, I've told you twice, but maybe I should mention that Applications->Accessories->Terminal is where you type that :)
[12:55] <delire> josh: http://help.ubuntu.com is your friend.
[12:55] <thomasM> !synaptic
[12:55] <ubotu> methinks synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[12:55] <ToHellWithGA> jughead: you just run the thing
[12:55] <jughead> crap
[12:55] <a12ctic> anyone know what could be up with his enthranet card? any suggestions?
[12:55] <josh> not supported
[12:55] <thomasM> josh go to synaptic how to.
[12:55] <crimsun_> plop: start it manually in the foreground with -dd
[12:55] <josh> some are made for windows
[12:55] <JohnsonE> enthranet? :o
[12:55] <ToHellWithGA> josh: what programs
[12:55] <seanb64> could anyone help me with this?
[12:55] <a12ctic> ethernet
[12:55] <seanb64> i t won't even boot completely!
[12:55] <a12ctic> my spelling is bad :)
[12:56] <ToHellWithGA> seanb64: do you have a lot of brand new hardware?
[12:56] <nickrud> josh, ah, I thought you got the linux bin for google earth, get that one. Seems to work well so far.
[12:56] <JohnsonE> a12, what's the problem?
[12:56] <kbrooks> josh: are you on dapper?
[12:56] <jughead> nickrud,
[12:56] <josh> dapper?
[12:56] <loanwolf> thomasM: i have the default kernel in installed..and useing the default theme
[12:56] <jughead> thats what I'm trying to do
[12:56] <josh> whats dapper?
[12:56] <jughead> lol
[12:56] <plop> crimsun_: start what?
[12:56] <ToHellWithGA> josh: are you using ubuntu?
[12:56] <seanb64> just a new Lacie external FireWire drive
[12:56] <whooper> btw, is it easy to install these fancy glx effects with rotating desktop etc? =)
[12:56] <josh> im using unbuntu yeh
[12:56] <QPAD|war-away> !pastebin
[12:56] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:56] <ToHellWithGA> seanb64: will it boot with that unplugged?
[12:56] <naosv> :o google earth working in Ubuntu! man I gotta pop in here more often :D
[12:56] <jughead> nickrud, I downloaded the bin and I get an error when I click on it
[12:56] <delire> josh: ubuntu is a code name for the Ubuntu 6.06 release.
[12:57] <ToHellWithGA> josh: when did you download and burn your ubuntu CD
[12:57] <delire> josh: sorry "dapper" ;)
[12:57] <ToHellWithGA> and delire meant "dapper" is a code name
[12:57] <plop> crimsun_: start what?
[12:57] <josh> i dint
[12:57] <ToHellWithGA> you confuse him so much, delire
[12:57] <josh> i oredered it
[12:57] <jughead> gedit was not able to detect my character coding
[12:57] <seanb64> haven't tried that, Oh I just remembered, it says before the splash
[12:57] <ToHellWithGA> josh: you're not using it now
[12:57] <plop> sry for repeat, key mistake
[12:57] <josh> i am
[12:57] <delire> ToHellWithGA: hehe yes, that was a tad unfortunate.
[12:57] <nickrud> jughead, open a terminal and type sh ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin , worked here. I installed in my home
[12:57] <crimsun_> plop: wpa_supplicant
[12:57] <ToHellWithGA> then you're on breezy badger
[12:57] <ToHellWithGA> *probably*
[12:57] <kbrooks> josh:
[12:57] <josh> hello
[12:57] <seanb64> Cannot find allocation for device and a number twice
[12:57] <kbrooks> can WE ALL g to #ubuntu-offtopic to help josh
[12:57] <plop> crimsun_: i dunno how to start it
[12:58] <JohnsonE> so guys, where might some remnants of VMware-player be hiding on my system? I tried all the uninstalls but the server still says there's a previous version.
[12:58] <Bassetts> how do i edit the tags of an ogg file?
[12:58] <kbrooks> this channel is too much on him
[12:58] <jughead> thanks nickrud
[12:58] <seanb64> I'll unplug it, and try that, and if it dosen't work, I'll come back
[12:58] <Stormx2> Does ubuntu have trace route?
[12:58] <jughead> holy moly
[12:58] <nickrud> JohnsonE, have you looked under /var ?
[12:58] <JohnsonE> nick: not yet. i'll look now
[12:59] <seife> Hi, i need some help
[12:59] <seife> I just downloaded Tango-Unofficial
[12:59] <JohnsonE> nick: where in var should i be looking? >_>
[12:59] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[12:59] <crimsun_> Stormx2: traceroute{,-nanog}
[12:59] <nickrud> seife, Sys->Prefs->Themes, drag & drop the tar.gz onto the window
[12:59] <seife> I just want the old gray icons, the readme tells me to just use a folder called 'deprecated' now.. how do i put it working, just drag it to theme folder?
[12:59] <NedSchnittt> where are the kernel includes in xubuntu?
[12:59] <Stormx2> crimsun_: I'm confused, what?
[12:59] <ompaul> josh, this is not im, to converse in irc it is useful to put all your comments in one typing session and then hit enter,  the way you are now no one will follow you, and not using the enter key after two words is really good for communition (using it is called spamming [one of the subsets] )
[12:59] <crimsun_> Stormx2: apt-cache policy traceroute{,-nanog}
[12:59] <seife> nickrud: is a folder into a .tar.gz is not all the .tar.gz
[01:00] <plop> crimsun_: is the file /etc/default/wpasupplicant still needed in dapper ?
[01:00] <crimsun_> plop: no
[01:01] <Bassetts> how do i edit the tags of an ogg file?
[01:01] <nickrud> JohnsonE, you'll need to browse: it may be under cache, it may be under lib, and it may not be there at all, it was a suggestion :) That's where ubuntu drops things the os controls, but might change
[01:01] <crimsun_> Bassetts: try easytag
[01:01] <Bassetts> cheers
[01:01] <a12ctic> ok, ubuntu is properly adressing his card, its just not doing anything with it
[01:01] <lowkey> re
[01:01] <nickrud> JohnsonE, for example, apache puts your default web page under /var/www
[01:01] <lowkey> is there any1 I can talk to about dapper and IBM z60t laptop?
[01:02] <crimsun_> lowkey: -laptop
[01:02] <seife> nickrud: u know what i have to do?
[01:03] <jamesx> hi. help would be appreciated. ubuntu keeps crashing on it's first boot of the day just before getting to the login screen. just when you see mouse cursor for the first time. Restart usually works but 10% of the time it crashes again and another reboot is required. Cannot think what it could be so suggestions would be gratefully recieved..... tHANKS
[01:03] <lowkey> after upgrade to dapper suspedn to ram stopped working .. i get some strange sda read errors when resumming from sleep
[01:03] <nickrud> seife, I'm not sure what you just meant. An alternative (if the folder is already unpacked) is to move the folder to $HOME/.icons
[01:04] <lowkey> does any1 know what can be done? as far as I've checked dapper default 2.6.15 kernel doesn't have one of tha patches for that things ..
[01:04] <josh> im confusedf!
[01:04] <markgrif> Jamesx: Make sure nothing is in the CD drive.
[01:04] <_Nick> I got this message with synaptic: "You've got 2 broken packages in you system, use the filter "Bronkens" to find them (ho can i use this filter)
[01:04] <crimsun_> lowkey: you need to address this in either -laptop or -kernel as I mentioned.
[01:04] <jamesx> thx but there is nothing in the cd drive ever. i thought that might be it sio tested it out
[01:05] <stalefries> I have a problem with the [Fn]  keys on my laptop. In GDM, every button press defaults to its [Fn]  character, but otherwise my keyboard works fine. Can anyone help?
[01:05] <nickrud> seife, success?
[01:05] <Bassetts> thankyou crimsun_: works perfect
[01:05] <lowkey> crimsun_: can you tell me how, do I do that?
[01:05] <stalefries> _Nick: in the bottom-left of Synaptic, look through those 4 buttons.
[01:05] <detectiveinspekt> is a torrent with 5 seeds and 35 peers good?
[01:06] <seife> nickrud: second
[01:06] <josh> i need to go to tat chat room those people helped me the other minute with
[01:06] <josh> i closed it by accident
[01:06] <ToHellWithGA> oh boy zooming out on google earth gives me hella tunnel vision
[01:06] <nickrud> josh, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:06] <crimsun_> lowkey: /j ubuntu-{kernel,laptop}
[01:06] <jamesx> hey
[01:06] <lowkey> crimsun_: oh, I see
[01:06] <stalefries> _Nick: if you click on one of those, one of them will have a "Broken" category
[01:06] <lowkey> crimsun_: 10x
[01:06] <jamesx> word
[01:06] <roostishaw> how do i record a call with skype?
[01:07] <stalefries> !skype
[01:07] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[01:07] <roostishaw> thx!
[01:07] <stalefries> That might help
[01:07] <stalefries> you might want to look at the howto's section of ubuntuforums.org
[01:08] <stalefries> I have a problem with the [Fn]  keys on my laptop. In GDM, every button press defaults to its [Fn]  character, but otherwise my keyboard works fine. Can anyone help?
[01:08] <seife> nickrud: didnt work, help meh :(
[01:08] <plop> crimsun_: can i show the log of wpa_supplicant?
[01:08] <nickrud> seife, ok :) Put the name of the file here that you downloaded
[01:08] <Zambezi> Has anyone imported Thunderbird files from Windows to Linux? I heard of one guy, but he nerver said how he did.
[01:08] <roostishaw> how do i record a call with skype?
[01:08] <roostishaw> those guides dont say
[01:09] <crimsun_> plop: if you run it in the foreground, it should log to stdout
[01:09] <Zambezi> roostishaw: Recording calls is evil. :-/
[01:09] <stalefries> roostishaw: I don't know, but I remember seeing it in the howtos, tips and tricks section of ubuntuforums.org
[01:09] <_Nick> threre is no broken category
[01:09] <stalefries> Zambezi: what about podcast interviews?
[01:10] <stalefries> _Nick, you sure? Let me check
[01:10] <plop> crimsun_: it is, but i dnt really
[01:10] <sigurdga> does anyone know if the network-manager-vpnc package is still around? I cannot find it with apt-cache (universe and multiverse enabled) or at packages.ubuntu.com
[01:10] <plop> crimsun_: it is, but i cant really identify the problem
[01:10] <Zambezi> stalefries: I'm think about private calls with friends.
[01:10] <crimsun_> plop: so pastebin it
[01:10] <plop> crimsun_: ok thx :)
[01:10] <stalefries> Zambezi, I doubt he wants it for that
[01:10] <ToHellWithGA> has anyone in here successfully installed Sony's SonicStage software under WINE?
[01:11] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like to be able to load and unload my minidisc player without using Windows ever again
[01:11] <stalefries> ToHellWithGA: check appdb.winehq.org
[01:11] <_Nick> do u mean: installed (local or obsolete)
[01:11] <stalefries> _Nick; no
[01:11] <ToHellWithGA> stalefries: it's there but i can't figure out the install.  would you maybe help me if i get hung up?
[01:11] <azinathat> does anyone have a maxfire 3000 novatech laptop?
[01:11] <stalefries> _Nick: go to custom
[01:11] <NedSchnittt> I am trying to install kqemu.  When I configure, it tellse me that it cannot find the kernel includes...where are they? (running xubuntu dapper drake)
[01:11] <plop> crimsun_: http://pastebin.com/705450
[01:12] <whooper> I'm up and running with nvidia driver, but still can't figure out how to set resolution to 1680x1050 ?
[01:12] <stalefries> ToHellWithGA: I wouldn't know anything about it
[01:12] <nickrud> NedSchnittt, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:12] <NoWhereToTurn> Sigh.. why would Breezy not be able to install Grub?
[01:12] <plop> crimsun_: anyway, how do i know if ap uses shared key or standard process ?
[01:12] <stalefries> _Nick: did that work?
[01:12] <NedSchnittt> thanks
[01:13] <NoWhereToTurn> virtual screen shows "calling 'apt-install grub' failed
[01:13] <_Nick> I've found this category now
[01:13] <crimsun_> plop: it looks fine to me (it's associated and completed)
[01:13] <crimsun_> plop: now just dhclient wlan0
[01:13] <stalefries> _Nick: good to know
[01:13] <Zambezi> stalefries: I hope you're right. I wouldn't trust a guy again who record phonecalls.
[01:13] <NoWhereToTurn> Should I continue the install anyways?
[01:13] <stalefries> Zambezi: NSA!
[01:14] <_Nick> but I used this way: configurations->filters
[01:14] <AMDfanboy> anyone figure out how to seed with ktorrent?
[01:14] <imbrandon> NoWhereToTurn, are you installing on software raid or something where there is no /boot partition by itself
[01:14] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> how can install driver ati?
[01:14] <AMDfanboy> i can download but not seed
[01:14] <plop> crimsun_: no leases :(
[01:14] <stalefries> AMDfanboy: do you have it set to no upload?
[01:14] <TassaDarK> crimsun_, i have been reading all this stuff about dmix plugin (http://alsa2.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin) and i have a BIG mess in my head. What is the easiest and simple way to have dmix enabled for all applications using sounds, i mean have multichannel/duplex (or wherever it calls) audio enabled forever?
[01:14] <NoWhereToTurn> imbrandon.. installing it in one partition + swap
[01:14] <JohnsonE> how can I unmount a hard drive that I don't want to appear? it says I can't do it..
[01:14] <loanwolf> ? how do i change my monitor type....its in xorg as generic
[01:15] <SAM_theman> Ok hommies I am back In Action :P
[01:15] <NoWhereToTurn> mount point for that partition is /
[01:15] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> help: how can I install driver ati?
[01:15] <Zambezi> I really mean this now. I'm about to migrate now. Probably tomarrow cause it's little too late now. But I just wounder who must problem I can expect to get with my ATI-card.
[01:15] <imbrandon> NoWhereToTurn, is it on raid or lvm though ?
[01:15] <TassaDarK> it's possible?
[01:15] <crimsun_> plop: do you really need ap_scan=2?
[01:15] <seanb64> Hey guys, I stripped it down to minimum, eathernet, keyboard and mouse and speakers, and still a problem'
[01:15] <NoWhereToTurn> imbrandon no raid .. box is too old
[01:15] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> dpkg-reconfigure ....?
[01:15] <Pasteurized> Since I have shutdown in hibernate mode, I'm note able to have any sounds, any ideas ?
[01:15] <NoWhereToTurn> plain P///-550
[01:16] <AMDfanboy> stalefries: no, when i give it a torrent thats has already been downloaded, and is int eh same folder as its downloading to, it tries to download it again
[01:16] <SAM_theman> I  am having a problem guys
[01:16] <plop> crimsun_: ssid is hidden :)
[01:16] <lib8264q> hi can somewone help with a problem ... has to do with the restricted formats
[01:16] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> anybody can help me?
[01:16] <SAM_theman> My Hp Deskjet 3653 doesn't seem to work any reasons why?
[01:16] <stalefries> AMDfanboy: hmm. Next time, you should try leaving it open afterwards. i don't think  it would chekc if it's been downloaded already.
[01:16] <n30n> !multiverse
[01:16] <nickrud> lib8264q, what's up?
[01:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:17] <NoWhereToTurn> Had hary installed on it and had other problems with it so I deleted it and am trying to get Breezy installed since drapper is apparently still a bit buggy
[01:17] <seanb64> hellp?
[01:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[ about ati
[01:17] <TassaDarK> i'm really sorry to be so clumsy but i'm noob
[01:17] <lib8264q> totem-xine (1.4.1-0ubuntu4) for the universe is confilcting with gstreamer
[01:17] <n30n> !easysource
[01:17] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:17] <TassaDarK> crimsun_ ?
[01:17] <seanb64> hello?
[01:17] <imbrandon> NoWhereToTurn, dapper may have bugs but is still leaps and bounds better than breezy ;)
[01:17] <loanwolf> ???????? how do i change my monitor in ubuntu dapper..xorg has it as generic
[01:17] <nickrud> lib8264q, thats fine, apt will deal with it (uninstall totem-gstreamer) while installing totem-xine
[01:17] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> _jason: I have an ATI mobility radeon 9000
[01:18] <seanb64> I am the PPC guy with the X server problem?
[01:18] <seanb64> it still wont boot
[01:18] <JohnsonE> how can I unmount a hard drive that I don't want to appear? it says I can't do it..
[01:18] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> _jason: what driver i must install? open or proprietary?
[01:18] <_jason> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: ubotu should have sent you a link to the ati page on the wiki, it should give you the info you need
[01:18] <Joedetic> oh jesus...it's a fight for support
[01:18] <plop> :)
[01:18] <nickrud> JohnsonE, sudo umount /media/<partition>
[01:18] <stalefries> I have a problem with the [Fn]  keys on my laptop. In GDM, every button press defaults to its [Fn]  character, but otherwise my keyboard works fine. Can anyone help?
[01:18] <lib8264q> ok .... cant connect the lappy ...to net as dosent like the eagle drivers
[01:18] <JohnsonE> thanks nick.
[01:18] <TassaDarK> Joedetic, it's a mortal kombat
[01:18] <crimsun_> TassaDarK: echo 'pcm.dmix0 { type dmix  ipc_key 2048  slave { pcm "hw:0,0"  period_size 1024  buffer_size 4096 } }  pcm.!default { type plug   slave.pcm "dmix0" }  ctl.dmix0 { type hw  card 0 }' > ~/.asoundrc
[01:18] <Joedetic> how do i make programs run automatically when i log into gnome?
[01:18] <NoWhereToTurn> well dapper normal install supposedly has problems and people have recommended the other ISO as well this box has several other distros on it + Win2k
[01:18] <lib8264q> so how do i do it the old fashioned way
[01:19] <seife> nickrud: i downloaded ICON-UnofficialTango.tar.bz2 pack if u read the readme inside there it says that 'if u just want the old gray icons just use the deprecated folder into the pack'..
[01:19] <Joedetic> there i'be submitted to the soup
[01:19] <NoWhereToTurn> other ISO- alternate installation
[01:19] <TassaDarK> crimsun_, i write that in the console?
[01:19] <JohnsonE> ahh nick, says unmount isn't a command.
[01:19] <crimsun_> TassaDarK: copy and paste it verbatim
[01:19] <_jason> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: whichever you prefer.  The proprietary probably has better performance, but I don't use ati, so I can't speak from firsthand experience
[01:19] <TassaDarK> and works forever?
[01:19] <nickrud> seife, hm. Could you put that readme on nlpaste?
[01:19] <nickrud> seife, hm. Could you put that readme on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[01:19] <uXp> anyone here who uses the opera's IRC?
[01:20] <crimsun_> TassaDarK: I can't predict the future. Furthermore, if I don't answer right away, it's probably because I'm at work and can't respond.
[01:20] <stalefries> uXp: no, but what do you need?
[01:20] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> _jason: how can test if 3d is enable?
[01:20] <n30n> Where is the compatiblity list for Ubuntu Dapper
[01:20] <seanb64> please can someone help me with this, I can't boot
[01:20] <_Nick> now I've choosen the filter how can I search the broken packages???
[01:21] <kane77> hi... anyone can help me install alien arena? i downloaded this .run file, but I cannot run it...
[01:21] <stalefries> _Nick: They should be shown now.
[01:21] <chuck8> sometimes the installer catches
[01:21] <seife> nickrud: ok give me a sec please
[01:21] <TassaDarK> crimsun_, it works now, lot of thanks! if works after reboot i WANT a child yours
[01:21] <_jason> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: glxinfo | grep render   <-- see if that returns: direct rendering: Yes
[01:21] <JohnsonE> nickrud: it says unmount isn't a command.
[01:21] <_jason> JohnsonE: umount without the n
[01:21] <JohnsonE> ahh ok >_> dyslexic
[01:21] <nickrud> JohnsonE, see above :)
[01:22] <whooper> hmmm, after dpkg-configure of xorg, my keyboard mappings got all wrong (norwegian keyboard), anyone know how to fix this?
[01:22] <crimsun_> plop: does the AP see the request?
[01:22] <nickrud> whooper, System-Preferences->Keyboard, Layouts tab
[01:22] <seanb64> did that guy that was helping me leave??
[01:22] <NoWhereToTurn> So no one has had problems with grub installation other than in a raid environment?? Mandriva installed on this box fine.. do not know why Ubuntu is having so many problems
[01:22] <stalefries> whooper: System>Preferences>Keyboard... Layouts tab
[01:23] <seife> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15624
[01:23] <stalefries> you beat me to it, nickrud!
[01:23] <seanb64> >:(
[01:23] <stalefries> by the way, how do you do that?
[01:23] <n30n> Hey, where is the file for the repository with Synaptic Package Manager, i forgot. I need to delete an invalid entry
[01:23] <Bassetts> in keyboard shortcuts how can i bind two keys to the operation? like <alt>+t
[01:24] <NoWhereToTurn> What exactly does this error message mean: "calling 'apt-install grub' failed"
[01:24] <n30n> gedit and then the file right?
[01:24] <kmilo> n30n, /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:24] <n30n> kmilo: thanks
[01:24] <_jason> Bassetts: you should be able to just press them like that
[01:24] <whooper> stalefries: i get an error message "Error activating XXB configuration." etc...
[01:24] <_Nick> after choosing broken, every search options were deselected, I preesed ok and nothin happens
[01:24] <Bassetts> nevermind, you have to press them exactly at the same time
[01:24] <kmilo> Nogimics, apt-get install grub
[01:24] <Bassetts> lol thanks jason
[01:24] <n30n> kmilo: it's gedit right? or is it sudo gedit?
[01:24] <kmilo> NoWhereToTurn, apt-get install grub
[01:24] <mutante> NoWhereToTurn: it means it failed to install grub, a bootmanager
[01:24] <nickrud> seife, ok, that's alternate icons (I made my own brown ones) If it's a good icon pack, just dragging & dropping the tar.bz2 file onto the theme manager will work.
[01:25] <kmilo> n30n, sudo gedit
[01:25] <_jason> Bassetts: if you press alt first and then t while holding down alt, it may be a little easier
[01:25] <libdmb> whats the apt-get command to remove completely?
[01:25] <Bassetts> _jason: thanks
[01:25] <stalefries> whooper, hm, do you mean XKB, or XXB? Either way, no idea how to fix it. Try again?
[01:25] <Joedetic> found it nm
[01:25] <NoWhereToTurn> I know what grub is thanks.. without it I can not boot any of the other distros nor Windows
[01:25] <mutante> apt-get remove --purge ?
[01:25] <_jason> libdmb: apt-get remove --purge
[01:25] <nickrud> seanb64, ask again, possibly someone will pick up where the last guy left off
[01:25] <libdmb> oh thanks
[01:25] <seife> nickrud: no, it displays just the blue ones and i want the gray ones
[01:25] <administrador> #ubunut-es
[01:25] <kmilo> libdmb, apt-get remove
[01:25] <kmilo> libdmb, and dpkg --purge
[01:25] <nickrud> seife, ok, gimme a link to the tar.bz2, I'll look at it
[01:25] <jinho> does anyone here use THunar?
[01:25] <n30n> is there a way to make it ask me for my password less?
[01:25] <libdmb> go tit
[01:25] <libdmb> got it*
[01:26] <stalefries> administrador: escribe "/j #ubuntu-es"
[01:26] <kmilo> n30n, compile sudo
[01:26] <acke_> How do i check my screen resolution?
[01:27] <stalefries> acke-, System>Preferences>Screen Resolution
[01:27] <raider-ukr> wow
[01:27] <n30n> kmilo: oh right. i knew that... I'm gettin rusty at this... :(
[01:27] <nickrud> kmilo, you have to compile sudo to change the 15 minute thingo :( ?
[01:27] <NoWhereToTurn> I am installing Ubuntu on hba14 that should not cause problems with getting a bootloader installed on hda1 should it?
[01:27] <seanb64> can someone help me out? I have redownloaded and reburned a live CD once, and whenever I try to boot, it goes past the splash, and shows an error that says X failed to start because it may not be configured correctly
[01:27] <stalefries> acke_, look above
[01:27] <thomasM> anybody know how i can disable ctrl alt backspace from killing X?
[01:27] <libdmb> yes
[01:27] <jinho> I am a newb and Im used to seeing executibles as .exe, but I'm sorta confused how executibles work in Linux and I'd really appreciate it if someone could explain how to use them in linux
[01:28] <KickStandimus> can somebody perhaps aid me with my wireless woes?
[01:28] <stalefries> jinho: they often don't have extensions
[01:28] <administrador> #ubuntu-es
[01:28] <krazykit> thomasM: it's something you put in xorg.conf.  called nozap.  i'm not familiar with it though
[01:28] <acke_> stalefries according to that I have 1024x800 which isnt what i should have. i changed the resolution in xorg.conf. but i dont know if those settings are used
[01:28] <kmilo> n30n, with configure --with-timeout=666
[01:28] <seanb64> ...
[01:28] <thomasM> krazykit i've done that, but its not working.
[01:28] <stalefries> acke_: try rebooting
[01:28] <jinho> stalefries: why is that? it seems more natural to have an extension
[01:28] <nickrud> n30n, there's an option for /etc/sudoers, timestamp_timeout that controls how long timeout is
[01:28] <thomasM> krazykit, do you know if there's a certain header i have to put it under?
[01:28] <KickStandimus> my wireless networks will show up on the network appelet but I can't connect to the internet
[01:29] <KickStandimus> anybody?
[01:29] <mutante> jinho: in Linux a file extension doesnt tell you if its executable or not for sure, you can use the "file" comamnds on a file to check its type, better
[01:29] <krazykit> thomasM: oh, there is, but i dunno where.  lemme look
[01:29] <acke_> stalefries dont help. but are there no other way to check wither it uses my settings in xorg.conf orthe settings in screen resolution appen
[01:29] <seanb64> anyone?
[01:29] <n30n> nickrud: no i mean when i open anything in the administration it asks for password.
[01:29] <thomasM> Section "ServerFlags" ???
[01:29] <stalefries> jinho: i don't know, ask the guys who invented UNIX, they're the own who made all these basic choices. Sometimes you also find .bin files, like 'binary"
[01:29] <krazykit> thomasM: yeah, section serverflags
[01:29] <mutante> jinho: if you want to make a file executable you would do it with "chmod +x" x for eXecutable, and then start it like ./file if its in the current directory
[01:29] <n30n> nickrud: if i use sudo it asks for password
[01:29] <NoWhereToTurn> Which install for drapper should one use on old hardware including a serial mouse? The alternate one? I have been trying to get Ubuntu installed on this box for a day and have had problems
[01:29] <thomasM> k well thats in there, but its still not working.
[01:30] <seife> nickrud: http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1150
[01:30] <krazykit> thomasM: Option "DontZap"
[01:30] <thomasM> krazykit, does xgl have anything to do with it?
[01:30] <thomasM> 	Option		"DontZap"		"yes"
[01:30] <stalefries> acke_: in the screen resolution options window, try changing it
[01:30] <KickStandimus> I can't seem to get wireless working with dapper. It recognizes my wireless networks , but upon giving my pass word and connecting, I can't do anything online
[01:30] <krazykit> thomasM: it might, but i don't think you need "yes" there.
[01:30] <KickStandimus> Somebody help with this?
[01:30] <thomasM> KickStandimus make sure your gateway is set.
[01:30] <jinho> mutante: but that's assuming that the file you have is something that is executable to begin with?
[01:30] <acke_> stalefries when i change to 1024xXXX nothing happends when i chose 800x640 my system crashes
[01:31] <thomasM> thanks crazykit, i'll give it a try.
[01:31] <nickrud> n30n, I just opened bum, gave the password, then immediately opened gdmsetup ; no password for gdmsetup
[01:31] <KickStandimus> Meaning what thomas
[01:31] <KickStandimus> how do I do that?
[01:31] <seanb64> hello?????????
[01:31] <seanb64> am I blocked or something?
[01:31] <stalefries> acke_: you have reached the ends of my knowledge. I'd try google from now on, or ask someone else. Sorry
[01:31] <seife> nickrud: got it?
[01:31] <nickrud> seife, looking now
[01:31] <n30n> Oh i see what's goin on now
[01:31] <mutante> jinho: yes,but it could be a binary executable, something that you can compare to .exe ,or it could be a script in different scripting languages, something you could compare to .bat files
[01:31] <KickStandimus> Can somebody help me with some wireless problems please?
[01:32] <mutante> jinho: try out the "file" command, file <filename>
[01:32] <jinho> mutante: sure thing
[01:32] <seanb64> KickStandimus, Dont' hold your breath, I've been trying for a while now
[01:32] <KickStandimus> yeah I hear ya
[01:33] <acke_> stalefries, thanks been working on this for a while. googled ubuntu wiki and so on.. >o hard to find a solution
[01:33] <bimberi> seanb64: hit F1 at the boot prompt and explore the boot options.  For example the "vga=" one
[01:33] <seanb64> ok, here we go again...
[01:33] <seanb64> and which should I use?
[01:33] <mutante> jinho: if you write a textfile in any editor, and put shell commands into it, you can just save it, (the name or extension doesnt matter at all) and make it executable (chmod) and then it can be started
[01:34] <KickStandimus> somebody, need help with wireless networking. Anybody
[01:34] <bimberi> seanb64: i don't know, you'll need to read what they are and choose something appopriate to your situation
[01:34] <n30n> I'm getting an error: "E: Type 'I' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:34] <n30n> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[01:34] <n30n> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem." and the first line of /ect/apt/sources.list is: "I s#
[01:34] <n30n> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted"
[01:34] <jinho> mutante: what's the exact syntax to use chmod?
[01:35] <mutante> jinho: for making a file executable: chmod +x filename
[01:35] <crimsun_> n30n: so delete that "I s#"
[01:35] <dooglus> n30n: you can make sudo ask for your password less often by setting a high value for timestamp_timeout in sudoers
[01:35] <mutante> of course it all depends what you want to achieve, its a complex command
[01:35] <n30n> dooglus: thanks. i did.
[01:35] <dooglus> n30n: see "man sudoers" for more info
[01:35] <slew> hi. sometimes it seems like there is a lot of transfer activity after i close azureus. is it possible to find out what exaclty is being transferred?
[01:35] <n30n> crimsun_: so i need to delete that? ok
[01:35] <nickrud> seife, ok, you need to do a few steps. first, tar xf ICON-UnofficialTango.tar.bz2 , then cd Tango
[01:35] <dooglus> n30n: oh, ok.  all I saw was someone telling you to recompile sudo :)
[01:36] <n30n> dooglus: thanks
[01:36] <_Nick> stalefries: the broken packages are: lib6 and lib6-i686, nut they are essential, so that 1174 mb will be free
[01:36] <_Nick> *nut = but
[01:37] <thomasM> hey krazykit, thanks a lot, that did the trick. no more accidentally killing X or Xgl.
[01:37] <krazykit> thomasM: yep :-)
[01:37] <stalefries> _Nick: try marking them for reinstall? I don't know. you could try that
[01:37] <nickrud> slew, ethereal is a great tool for analyzing your net traffic.
[01:37] <plop> crimsun_: unfortunately ap does not log anything
[01:37] <stalefries> _Nick: you mean libc6, right?
[01:37] <seife> nickrud: ok now what?
[01:37] <n30n> !multiverse
[01:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:38] <_Nick> ya sorry
[01:38] <plop> crimsun_: openwrt
[01:38] <nickrud> seife, rm -r 16x16 22x22 scaleable
[01:38] <Masqy> Is someone familiar with the problem of VLC and XMMS not wanting to be heard together ?
[01:38] <slew> nickrud, thanks! =] 
[01:38] <_Nick> they cannot be reinstalled by synaptic i guess
[01:38] <Masqy> i.e. when xmms is opened, I don't have sound in VLC
[01:38] <TokenBad> ok a family member converted our wedding from vhs to dvd and sent it to us...how can I rip those files from the dvd to computer in linux?
[01:38] <dooglus> slew: "tcpdump" is a good tool too if you want something easy to run
[01:39] <stalefries> _Nick; did you try?
[01:39] <dooglus> slew: it'll just show every packet in a terminal.  that's often enough to know what's going on
[01:39] <seife> ok now what nickrud
[01:39] <grndslm> Masy, try alsa-oss
[01:39] <nickrud> seife, cp depreciated/* .
[01:39] <thomasM> tokenbad use acidrip
[01:39] <stalefries> Masqy: it's an OSS vs. ALSA issue. look 'em up
[01:39] <slew> dooglus, thanks! =] 
[01:39] <grndslm> Masqy, see if "sudo aptitude install alsa-oss"
[01:39] <dooglus> slew: after closing azureus, it takes a while for all the people you were sharing with to realise that you've stopped sharing, so they'll continue to try to connect with your azureus port for a while.  they won't get very far, but it'll show up as traffic
[01:39] <grndslm> works
[01:39] <_Nick> I didn't find this option there
[01:40] <wubrgamer> is arabic read right to left ?
[01:40] <n30n> Hey, so with the source at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 can i just copy the source and throw it in my ect/apt/source.list file?
[01:40] <KickStandimus> Can somebody please help me with my wireless adapter? I'm told the network is 'unreachable' but I can see the network in the network application
[01:40] <seife> nickrud: it says cp: omitting directory `deprecated/16x16'
[01:40] <seife> cp: omitting directory `deprecated/22x22'
[01:40] <wubrgamer> just wondering
[01:40] <TassaDarK> ok crimsun_ ,seems to work, i can play a mp3 in xmms & an avi file in totem at once, but a youtube video in opera uses 100% of my soundcard, is because opera (or flash) don't use alsa?
[01:40] <slew> dooglus, yah, but im talking about a LOT of traffic hours later
[01:40] <_Nick> through a right click
[01:40] <wubrgamer> is arabic read right to left ?
[01:40] <KickStandimus> somebody help me with my wireless adapter please?
[01:40] <detectiveinspekt> haha slew i told the guy to f off
[01:40] <nickrud> seife, cp -r depreciated/* . (sorry, always forget the recursive flag)
[01:40] <n30n> wubrgamer: google arabic reading
[01:40] <wubrgamer> what kinda help do yoiu need ? what kind of adapter do you hvae ?
[01:40] <slew> detectiveinspekt, =]  cheers!
[01:40] <KickStandimus> I have an smc wubrgamer
[01:41] <stalefries> wubrgamer: yes
[01:41] <wubrgamer> dude, i was just polling, and i'm also in the room to help
[01:41] <crimsun_> TassaDarK: blame Flash.
[01:41] <wubrgamer> smc ?
[01:41] <wubrgamer> thank you
[01:41] <KickStandimus> yes
[01:41] <seife> nickrud: ok now what
[01:41] <slew> detectiveinspekt, i shoulda just asked here, this is where all the nice people are.
[01:41] <dooglus> slew: 'ntop' is useful too.  it runs in the background gathering information about network traffic, and can draw pretty graphs and stuff, showing who is connecting the most, which port, etc.
[01:41] <n30n> wubrgamer: oh. sorry.
[01:41] <TassaDarK> fucking flash!
[01:41] <wubrgamer> do you have a laptop or desktop ?
[01:41] <crimsun_> TassaDarK: workaround: ``apt-get install alsa-oss'' (in universe), then use ``aoss opera''
[01:41] <KickStandimus> desktop wubrgamer
[01:41] <wubrgamer> s`okay n30n
[01:41] <slew> dooglus, ooh cool pretty is nice!
[01:41] <Masqy> grndslm: this should solve the problem ?
[01:41] <nickrud> seife, now cd .. && mv Tango ~/.icons
[01:41] <wubrgamer> right, and the wireless model ?
[01:41] <SAM_theman> Hehe I am install qemu
[01:41] <detectiveinspekt> yea, ubuntu is nice
[01:41] <KickStandimus> I don't know, how do I find out wubrgamer
[01:41] <dooglus> slew: I think to be honest it's firefox that actually does the drawing - ntop spits out the HTML though
[01:41] <SAM_theman> *hehe I am installing qemu
[01:41] <seife> nickrud: explain whats that cd . . && ?
[01:41] <wubrgamer> urguh, did you not install it ?
[01:42] <KickStandimus> wubrgamer: Yes but it was like 6 months ago
[01:42] <wubrgamer> serial numbers will help, figure out your maker and model number dude..........
[01:42] <yurif> hi guys!
[01:42] <wubrgamer> i forgot how to get that info out of bash dude, sry
[01:42] <nickrud> seife, cd .. means change directories to the parent directory, and the && means only do the next command if the previous one was successful
[01:42] <KickStandimus> wubrgamer: Is there a cammand I can type to find that out
[01:42] <wubrgamer> again
[01:42] <KickStandimus> wubrgamer:crap okay
[01:42] <dooglus> slew: and 'etherape' will draw real-time pictures of network activity, with the busiest hosts drawn as the biggest circles
[01:42] <wubrgamer> i forgot how to get that info out of bash dude, sry
[01:42] <SAM_theman> Look at my sexy ubuntu
[01:42] <SAM_theman> http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot29dj.png
[01:42] <yurif> How I load my GFORCE MX-4000
[01:42] <KickStandimus> wubrgamer: but isn't it odd that It can see networks but not connect?
[01:43] <wubrgamer> what ?
[01:43] <SAM_theman> Its still not finsished!!
[01:43] <TassaDarK> crimsun_ the solution you gave me before is for all applications or applications using alsa, or aoss or what?
[01:43] <JohnsonE> ok so still I try to install the vmware server and it says "A previous installation of VMware software has been detected." when i have uninstalled vmware-player as much as i could.
[01:43] <n30n> Are people paid to come and help or are you all like me and just come because we all have nothing better to do
[01:43] <KickStandimus> wubrgamer: The networking utility can see my network and my neighbors as well
[01:43] <seife> nickrud: cp: omitting directory `deprecated/16x16'
[01:43] <seife> cp: omitting directory `deprecated/22x22'
[01:43] <wubrgamer> can you do me a favor and download network-manager gnome thru synaptic and tell me what you've got ?
[01:43] <seife> errr
[01:43] <yurif> Someone Help me?
[01:43] <krazykit> n30n: mostly the latter.
[01:43] <KickStandimus> wubrgamer:in network settings
[01:43] <wubrgamer> can you do me a favor and download network-manager gnome thru synaptic and tell me what you've got ?
[01:43] <SAM_theman> yurif, yes
[01:43] <wubrgamer> network-manager
[01:43] <seife> nickrud: mv: cannot stat `Tango': No such file or directory
[01:43] <n30n> yurif: whats the prob mate
[01:43] <slew> dooglus, thanks again! you must really like to monitor your network. dont blame ya..
[01:43] <SAM_theman> yurif, that is an old nvidia card
[01:43] <wubrgamer> it's a gui front-end and REALLY sexy daemon
[01:43] <KickStandimus> wubrgamer:I can't download if i cannot connect
[01:43] <wubrgamer> wire ?
[01:43] <SAM_theman> !nvidia
[01:43] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:44] <KickStandimus> wubrgamer:negative
[01:44] <yurif> ok! Then What I have to do?
[01:44] <nickrud> seife, what does pwd tell you right now?
[01:44] <SAM_theman> yurif, ok ok...geez
[01:44] <wubrgamer> can you download it onto a flashdrive and install the package ?
[01:44] <seife> pwd?
[01:44] <dooglus> SAM_theman: XFCE?
[01:44] <yurif> SAM_theman, what I do?
[01:44] <seife> nickrud: explain men my english is not good
[01:44] <n30n> is ubotu a bot or is that just a strangly bot like name
[01:44] <SAM_theman> yurif, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[01:44] <nickrud> seife, print working directory, where you are right now in the file system
[01:44] <brainsick> I'm trying to dual-boot Windows 2000 and Linux from separate partitions of a single HD.  I installed Windows first, went through the whole Windows update process (which requires /several/ reboots), then I installed Dapper.  When choosing Windows 2000 from the GRUB menu, windows blue screens during bootup and gives a INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE.  Any thoughts?
[01:44] <KickStandimus> wubrgamer: get it off of source forge or something
[01:44] <krazykit> n30n: it's a bot.
[01:44] <wubrgamer> ?
[01:44] <crimsun_> TassaDarK: the workaround works for /some/ oss-only applications.
[01:44] <n30n> krazykit: ok i thought so
[01:44] <seife> nickrud: im in home folder
[01:44] <SAM_theman> dooglus, nope gnome 2.14
[01:44] <wubrgamer> how bout you download it off of synaptic ?
[01:44] <seife> i didnt understand that mv tango...
[01:44] <nickrud> seife, and does ls show Tango?
[01:44] <Masqy> also-oss didn't change a thing.. I opened XMMS and then when openning VLC got no sound.. is a restart needed ?
[01:45] <jjazz> KickStandimus: iwscan can tell you how strong the signal is from the WAP to your box.  Not sure if it's in the ubuntu base install or not.
[01:45] <dooglus> SAM_theman: what's the thing at the top with the icons on it?  is that a gnome panel?
[01:45] <SAM_theman> dooglus, nope
[01:45] <KickStandimus> wubrgamer: like i said, this is my only pc linux box and I can't connect
[01:45] <seife> nickrud: it just show Desktop
[01:45] <SAM_theman> dooglus, gdesklets
[01:45] <wubrgamer> oh, sry dude, umm.......
[01:45] <jjazz> KickStandimus: er..  I mean iwlist.  Sorry.
[01:45] <dooglus> SAM_theman: eww.  do they work OK now?
[01:45] <yurif> SAM_theman, I already install that package!
[01:45] <nickrud> seife, where did you unpack the tar.bz2 file at then?
[01:45] <wubrgamer> can someone else help this guy ?
[01:45] <KickStandimus> okay hold on jjazz
[01:45] <SAM_theman> dooglus, Yes Sir
[01:45] <AJ004> google rocks
[01:45] <KickStandimus> just a second
[01:45] <AJ004> google earth is FINALLY ON LINUX!
[01:45] <n30n> What are the "(restricted)" things in Synaptic
[01:45] <seife> nickrud: into desktop
[01:45] <AJ004> now i can use linux 24/7 :)
[01:45] <seife> now i am on desktop folder
[01:46] <KickStandimus> jjazz: what kind of output are you looking for?
[01:46] <dooglus> AJ004: via WINE, I presume?
[01:46] <AJ004> question:  HOW DO I INSTALL A .BIN
[01:46] <seife> nickrud: i put the mv Tango ~/.icons and it tells me that cant overwrite
[01:46] <acke_> IM trying to configure screen resolutions i found this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+package/fglrx-control can i run the control or it is not a runnable app?
[01:46] <AJ004> dooglus its a .bin
[01:46] <SAM_theman> yurif, "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup"
[01:46] <dooglus> AJ004: you "chmod +x" it, then you "./file.bin"
[01:46] <yurif> SAM_theman, when I do nvidia-glx-config enable, dont work right!
[01:46] <AJ004> thanks
[01:46] <kanaBS> hi all
[01:46] <nickrud> seife, ah, you have to delete the original Tango icons then: sudo rm -r ~/.icons/Tango
[01:46] <SAM_theman> yurif, What u mean?
[01:46] <Masqy> Is someone familiar with the problem of VLC and XMMS not wanting to be heard together ? ( I have just installed alsa-oss).. any further advices?
[01:46] <dooglus> AJ004: but I think you'll find the .bin will install WINE, and gearth.exe, the windows version...
[01:46] <jjazz> KickStandimus: sudo iwlist eth0 scan should include "signal level" among the outputs.
[01:47] <seife> nickrud: the pack or the Tango folder?
[01:47] <n30n> yurif: i think you need to use sudo
[01:47] <nickrud> seife, then mv ~/Desktop/Tango ~/.icons
[01:47] <crimsun_> Masqy: set vlc and xmms each to use alsa
[01:47] <SAM_theman> yurif, "http://krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29"
[01:47] <KickStandimus> jjazz: shouldn't it be ath0?
[01:47] <nickrud> seife, the Tango folder in ~/.icons
[01:47] <Masqy> crimsun_: is that simple?
[01:47] <seanb64_> Thanks guys, but F1 did absolutely nothing
[01:47] <jjazz> KickStandimus: Whatever it is on your box.  If it's ath0, then go with that.
[01:47] <crimsun_> Masqy: yes, see the preferences for both applications
[01:47] <seanb64_> atlall
[01:47] <yurif> SAM_theman, The next task is execute nvidia-glx-config enable?
[01:47] <seanb64_> *atall
[01:47] <Masqy> I don't have alsa option
[01:48] <SAM_theman> yurif, yeah
[01:48] <kanaBS> quit
[01:48] <brainsick> I'm trying to dual-boot Windows 2000 and Linux from separate partitions of a single HD.  I installed Windows first, went through the whole Windows update process (which requires /several/ reboots), then I installed Dapper.  When choosing Windows 2000 from the GRUB menu, windows blue screens during bootup and gives a INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE.  Any thoughts?  I've used this setup successfully with Breezy.
[01:48] <n30n> Does dapper have support for the newer nvidia on board chips
[01:48] <crimsun_> Masqy: in xmms? sure you do. audio i/o plugins under preferences.
[01:48] <AJ004> no its not wine
[01:48] <yurif> SAM_theman, Because I already try that and I cant load my nvidia card!
[01:48] <KickStandimus> jjazz: Okay yes, it has cells 01 through 04, 04 is my network
[01:48] <acke_> how do I make the desktop icons smaller??
[01:48] <seife> nickrud: done, now whut
[01:48] <n30n> i seem to remember having to kill myself when i installed the older verson
[01:48] <SAM_theman> yurif, o wait
[01:48] <Masqy> I meant in VLC, I have 4 options:
[01:48] <jjazz> KickStandimus: And what's the signal level for cell 04?
[01:49] <AJ004> its native linux it looks like
[01:49] <AJ004> kewl
[01:49] <Healot> brainsick: is your disk basic or dynamic?
[01:49] <crimsun_> Masqy: check the advanced options.
[01:49] <RancidLM> how do i enable switch usr/hybernate... right now if click "logout switch users hibernate" it just boots me out into login prompt back in gdm... any suggestions any one?
[01:49] <jjazz> KickStandimus: It should be a negative number
[01:49] <seanb64_> any other ideas?
[01:49] <nickrud> seife, ok, now cp -r ~/Desktop/Tango ~/.icons
[01:49] <KickStandimus> jjazz: -73dBm
[01:49] <crimsun_> Masqy: make sure both vlc and xmms are set to use "default", not "hw:0,0" or something along those lines
[01:49] <Masqy> Default, OSS, dummyfile and file audio output
[01:49] <SAM_theman> yurif, Go here and follow the steps for older cards ok
[01:49] <KickStandimus> jjazz: actually cell 03 is a network of the same name and it has a signal of -78 dBm
[01:49] <jjazz> KickStandimus: That's pretty low.  I usually can't connect below around -60dBm.
[01:49] <seanb64_> hello?
[01:49] <n30n> rancidLM: i don't understand what you mean.
[01:50] <nickrud> seife, now, if all is good, you have Tango in the Themes preferences, using the grey folders
[01:50] <crimsun_> Masqy: are you using breezy (5.10)?
[01:50] <jjazz> KickStandimus: What's the name?
[01:50] <Masqy> using breezy
[01:50] <SAM_theman> yurif, http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[01:50] <KickStandimus> jjazz:I have my laptop here and I can connect
[01:50] <Masqy> XMMS uses ALSA
[01:50] <acke_> My icons on the Desktop are huge.. My pdf files takes a 1/4 of the desktop by it self (not really 1/4)  but how do i make them smaller?
[01:50] <crimsun_> Masqy: sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-alsa
[01:50] <KickStandimus> jjazz: the name of the network? what does it matter?
[01:50] <SAM_theman> yurif, Dapper right?
[01:50] <AJ004> i cant believe google........ they are finally moving over to linux
[01:50] <seanb64_> WTF?
[01:50] <AJ004> about time
[01:50] <plop> crimsun_: ok, ill try the wireless more deeply tomorow, thx for your help :)
[01:50] <yurif> SAM_theman, ok!
[01:50] <seanb64_> I'm somehow logged in twice
[01:50] <seanb64_> ?
[01:50] <AJ004> when the next linux distros come out after the google summer of code 2006
[01:50] <seife> nickrud: cp: cannot stat `/home/seife/Desktop/Tango': No such file or directory
[01:50] <jjazz> KickStandimus: I'm just wondering if the name is "default" or something like that
[01:50] <AJ004> linux is gonna overtake microsoft
[01:50] <RancidLM> n30n: you know whe u click the logout button and your prompt to switch users/hybernate/logout ?.. i don't get that i just go straight back to gdm
[01:50] <SAM_theman> yurif, roger...
[01:50] <dooglus> AJ004: yes, that's right.  I'm surprised, but it looks like it's native.  I saw what they did with Picasa (ie. bundled it with WINE) and guessed they'd be doing the same with Earth, but no.
[01:50] <AJ004> for the first time :)
[01:50] <n30n> AJ004: I thought they did linux a while ago
[01:51] <Masqy> crimsun_: trying that... I think that should do it.
[01:51] <KickStandimus> jjazz: no nothing like that
[01:51] <AJ004> n30n:  No this is NATIVE LINUX as dooglus pointed out
[01:51] <KickStandimus> jjazz: but they both have odd names.
[01:51] <plop> anyone have synaptics working well ?
[01:51] <AJ004> dooglus:  Turns out for picassa they were experimenting
[01:51] <seanb64_> ....
[01:51] <plop> !touchpad
[01:51] <ubotu> I guess touchpad is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[01:51] <jjazz> KickStandimus: I'm not sure why it would come up twice.  Do you have multiple WAPs?
[01:51] <nickrud> seife, I have grey icons everywhere but for Documents on my desktop
[01:51] <n30n> AJ004: i see.
[01:51] <brainsick> Healot: can we discuss via /msg?
[01:51] <AJ004> dooglus:  I think linux is gonna finally overtake windows since VISTA sucks balls
[01:51] <yurif> SAM_theman, ops!
[01:51] <seanb64_> that'll be the day
[01:52] <KickStandimus> jjazz: same address....
[01:52] <yurif> SAM_theman, roger that! :D
[01:52] <AJ004> dooglus:  Ubuntu dapper is nice........ just needs a few bugfixes such as gtk bugs
[01:52] <SAM_theman> yurif, lol
[01:52] <JohnsonE> a lot of linux commands seem too complex for the average computer user though
[01:52] <AJ004> which should be fixed by the next release
[01:52] <n30n> AJ004: Vista is great for people that don't work with computers (common folk who just use computers for email)
[01:52] <yurif> SAM_theman, I will read the url!
[01:52] <nickrud> seife, you changed the Tango folder, you must know where it is
[01:52] <AJ004> n30n:  linux still doesnt work with some media formats tho
[01:52] <dooglus> AJ004: OS/X is much more widespread than Linux isn't it?
[01:52] <SAM_theman> yurif, ok
[01:52] <Masqy> gee.. I should have asked that question 3 months ago.. it's so simple.. thanks crimsun_
[01:52] <AJ004> n30n:  even after installing easyubuntu
[01:52] <seanb64_> ok, so, I have been trying to boot off of this CD for 2 hours
[01:52] <jjazz> KickStandimus: OK.  Well, low signal strength could be a factor.  Your laptop being able to connect doesn't mean much.  Different machines will have different abilities to pull in signals.  Still, do sudo ifconfig ath0.
[01:53] <seanb64_> it says it cant start X
[01:53] <dooglus> AJ004: even if Windows disappeared overnight, Linux would still be a minority OS
[01:53] <kmilo> AJ004, legal problems, patents
[01:53] <jjazz> KickStandimus: And tell me what the ESSID is set to
[01:53] <RancidLM> n30n: on top of that if i goto gdm and tryto hybernate it says i have the privilages to do so
[01:53] <n30n> AJ004: I try to convert files i get to be usable by linux codex
[01:53] <rhyddin> hey, anyone know whats up with the corrupt widgets in dapper?
[01:53] <AJ004> kmilo:  All we need is a slightly commercial linux distro or some hackers who make it free even if it has patents
[01:53] <nickrud> rhyddin, which ones?
[01:53] <n30n> RacidLM: are you not administrative?
[01:53] <seife> nickrud:
[01:53] <seife> didnt work
[01:53] <seife> SIGH
[01:54] <seife> >=[
[01:54] <nickrud> seife, worked here, those steps
[01:54] <AJ004> kmilo:  maybe google could subsidize it for free as well
[01:54] <seanb64_> GAH!
[01:54] <KickStandimus> jjazz: it doesn't say anthing about essid actually
[01:54] <seife> nickrud: didnt here
[01:54] <kmilo> AJ004, some hackers made it: mplayer
[01:54] <XiXaQ> someone wants to transfer a large file over to my system right now. DCC in IRC doesn't work. Any quick fixes? Please include my nickname as I'm back and forth (It's the middle of the night here)
[01:54] <jjazz> KickStandimus: Oops.  Make that iwconfig, not ifconfig.
[01:54] <AJ004> kmilo thats a possibility... google could buy the patents and give em back to linux
[01:54] <RancidLM> n30n: i haven't changed any settings i, all i have done recently is installed packages from synaptec
[01:54] <rhyddin> nickrud: well, its not consistent, sometimes I have corrupt widgets, sometimes I dont .. the only post in the forum I can find about it indicates buggy ati drivers .. not sure if there is any more data available though
[01:54] <AJ004> kmilo:  I have the easyubuntu package and it still wont run formats correctly
[01:54] <n30n> RancidLM: dapper?
[01:54] <jjazz> KickStandimus: Does the ESSID match the WAP you're trying to connect to?
[01:54] <KickStandimus> jjazz: yeah it says the network i want
[01:54] <AJ004> kmilo:  It installed all the players and codecs too
[01:55] <AJ004> kmilo is there something else i need?
[01:55] <nickrud> rhyddin, ah, ati, thanks. I get to ignore ith then. Someone said googleearth screwed up badly with ati as well.
[01:55] <RancidLM> n30n: yes 6.06
[01:55] <jjazz> KickStandimus: Well, it's looking for the right network but not connecting.  Does your network require a WEP key?
[01:55] <seanb64_> anyone else have any ideas?
[01:55] <SAM_theman> How I launch a live cd with qemu??
[01:55] <seife> nickrud:  read pm
[01:55] <kmilo> AJ004, compile the software by your self
[01:55] <n30n> RancidLM: did you do the alternate install or the desktop?
[01:55] <nickrud> seife, I didn't get it. are you registered?
[01:55] <KickStandimus> jjazz: Yes and I've entered it properly
[01:56] <AJ004> nickrud:  You need the 3d drivers for ati that are part of easyubuntu
[01:56] <AJ004> nickrud:  With those google earth and ATI are fine
[01:56] <kmilo> AJ004, the "hackers who make it free even if it has patents" make the code but ubuntu don't ship it
[01:56] <nickrud> AJ004, no, I need nvidia, which I have :)
[01:56] <AJ004> oh ok
[01:56] <rhyddin> nickrud: hehe, well, i dont know about google earth .
[01:56] <RancidLM> n30n: desktop, and on that note it did alow me to hybernate for some time until recently when i tried to get apache/php/webmin on it
[01:56] <KickStandimus> jjazz: I can see all of this through the network setting utility
[01:56] <Bassetts> does anyone know in gedit, when you type to the left of something, what stops it deleting the character to the right?
[01:56] <AJ004> kmilo:  Like if I watched marissa mayer's video (she works for google....) it wont work on linux
[01:56] <n30n> RancidLM: what you could do is see if creating a new user will help. go to cmd and sudo (username)-config-prepare
[01:56] <dooglus> Bassetts: press the 'insert' key
[01:56] <KickStandimus> jjazz: but it won't remember any of my setting when I quit
[01:56] <AJ004> and google is LINUX friendly
[01:56] <jjazz> KickStandimus: I've never actually used that utility.
[01:57] <spine55> does anyone have any problems viewing dvd's with xgl enabled?
[01:57] <Bassetts> cheers dooglus
[01:57] <seanb64_> HELP!
[01:57] <AJ004> i had to use windows to watch it :(
[01:57] <seanb64_> thank you please?
[01:57] <Bassetts> dooglus: i hate catching that key, always forget it
[01:57] <jjazz> KickStandimus: You could temporarily turn off the WEP at the router just to see if the problem is the authentication.
[01:57] <KickStandimus> jjazz: okay well mydefault gateway is set to ath 0 and I've given it all of this information
[01:57] <KickStandimus> jjazz: good idea for short term
[01:57] <jjazz> KickStandimus: Your gateway isn't ath0
[01:58] <n30n> AJ004: thats because it was designed in windows. I use converters to convert the format of vids to ones i can use on linux
[01:58] <KickStandimus> jjazz: yeah it is...
[01:58] <jjazz> KickStandimus: gateway should be a dotted quad.  It's the ip of your router.
[01:58] <n30n> AJ004: metoo i believe its called is a good one
[01:58] <kmilo> AJ004, the buy patents for free software: http://www.openinventionnetwork.com
[01:58] <KickStandimus> jjazz: okay that is what this utility says. I mean gateway device
[01:58] <KickStandimus> jjazz:not gateway
[01:58] <Bassetts> is there a good wysiwyg editor around?? i heard of nv something
[01:58] <jjazz> KickStandimus: Ah, ok.  That makes more sense.
[01:59] <dooglus> Bassetts: for HTML?
[01:59] <Bassetts> yes dooglus
[01:59] <Bassetts> and css
[01:59] <kmilo> Bassetts, nvu
[01:59] <XiXaQ> please... This is rather important to me. If I cannot find another suitable way, can someone lend me 70MB on an ftp account please?
[01:59] <Bassetts> cheers kmilo
[01:59] <KickStandimus> jjazz: if i change this, will it boot my other computers off the network. removing the wep i mean
[01:59] <dooglus> Bassetts: nvu then I guess
[02:00] <Bassetts> thanks dooglus
[02:00] <AJ004> kmilo:  i think eventually linux will have no patent issues cause cant google or a big firm just license the patents and give em back free to linux
[02:00] <jjazz> KickStandimus: It should not, but that's a function of your router, so I couldn't really say.
[02:00] <AJ004> ie subsidize em
[02:00] <AJ004> google gives googlepack for free
[02:00] <KickStandimus> jjazz: wireless security is selected as wpa2 personal not wep...might that be what is causing this
[02:00] <Bassetts> ubuntu is the best thing since sliced bread, apart from wget. only thing i have to use windows for is photoshop now =) and thats in a VM
[02:01] <AJ004> anyways
[02:01] <AJ004> how do i run google earth?
[02:01] <AJ004> theres no icon
[02:01] <LAloI> Hola !!!
[02:01] <nickrud> AJ004, that is a wishful thing, but do you realize how much that might cost!!
[02:01] <dooglus> XiXaQ: how about installing an FTP server, or rsync, or sshd, or anything which they can use to send it to you?
[02:01] <jjazz> KickStandimus: Yeah, I don't know.  Wireless security isn't my area.  I've only set up WEP... once... a couple years ago.
[02:01] <ToHellWithGA> is there any way to remove sidenet?  it completely borked my wine installation
[02:01] <nickrud> AJ004, it's under internet in the menu
[02:01] <AJ004> nickrud:  For a company like google, not much
[02:01] <MarcN> AJ004: type googleearth at the command line
[02:01] <dooglus> XiXaQ: even 'nc -l' would do
[02:01] <seanb64_> HELLO?
[02:01] <kmilo> Bassetts, change wget for prozilla
[02:01] <KickStandimus> jjazz: okay ill try some thing. hold on a minute though
[02:01] <XiXaQ> dooglus, what does nc -l do?
[02:01] <Bassetts> kmilo, why
[02:01] <AJ004> marcn thanks...... turns out there is nothing in internet, how do i add it?
[02:01] <RancidLM> n30n: yes that worked so thiers something wrong with my user account, any suggestions on how to fix this
[02:01] <delire> AJ004: the concept of software patents is itself becoming invalid in many countries. but yes, IBM, Nokia 'donate' patents to protect Linux.
[02:01] <Bassetts> wget is my baby
[02:01] <RancidLM> ?
[02:02] <dooglus> XiXaQ: 'nc -l' makes a listening 'nc'.  see 'man nc'
[02:02] <nickrud> AJ004, if you didn't request it during the install, use alacarte to modify the menu
[02:02] <seanb64_> I've been trying to get this doen for hours
[02:02] <MarcN> AJ004: did you download and it install it?
[02:02] <kmilo> Bassetts, i think you don't like it
[02:02] <seanb64_> please help me out!
[02:02] <AJ004> marcn yes i did
[02:02] <AJ004> i dont have a menu for it
[02:02] <XiXaQ> dooglus, my brother wants to send me one of my grandfathers cds, but I don't know how to let him.
[02:02] <seanb64_> I've been trying fr hours
[02:02] <AJ004> marcn:  i tried googleearth from command line, didnt work
[02:02] <dooglus> seanb64_: can you state your problem clearly please?  I tried scrolling up to find it, but it must have been a long time ago
[02:02] <delire> Bassetts: a powerful little app. wget -c <url> for resumeable downloads also.
[02:03] <dooglus> XiXaQ: he's running Windows?
[02:03] <Bassetts> delire: mainly why i love it =)
[02:03] <Matthewv> I'm having trouble printing black correctly on hp psc 1410 connected to a dapper machine: it is printed as a combination of colours, so running out of colour makes blackk go really funny (red)
[02:03] <XiXaQ> dooglus, I don't have that much time. Do you know of a quich solution?
[02:03] <MarcN> AJ004: you may have downloaded it, but did you install it?
[02:03] <XiXaQ> dooglus, I don't know, why?
[02:03] <AJ004> MarcN I installed it
[02:03] <cge> How can I keep the cpufreq_stats kernel module from loading? /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist seems to be ineffective.
[02:03] <delire> Bassetts: ;)
[02:03] <Bassetts> delire: that small little c has saved me so much time
[02:03] <AJ004> MarcN:  Should i reinstall it?
[02:03] <delire> Bassetts: it's one for the keyring that's for sure..
[02:03] <SAM_theman> !qemu
[02:03] <ubotu> methinks qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[02:03] <MarcN> AJ004: it should have put a link to googleearth in your ~/bin/ directory
[02:03] <dooglus> XiXaQ: if you don't know what he's running, it's hard to tell you how he can transfer a file to you
[02:03] <Bassetts> plus wget maxes out my connection prety much every time =)
[02:03] <kag> hi everybody, I have a Diamond FireGL 1000 AGP card, and I cannot change the refresh rate from 60Hz to something higher. Where should I look first to work this out?
[02:04] <dooglus> XiXaQ: how about getting him to email it in 4 parts or something?
[02:04] <nickrud> kag, at !fixres below
[02:04] <nickrud> !fixres
[02:04] <Matthewv> kag, have you checked /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:04] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:04] <KickStandimus> jjazz: shit that didn't work
[02:04] <kag> !fixres
[02:04] <AJ004> nope, nothing in /bin
[02:04] <XiXaQ> dooglus, it's sixty megabytes. But never mind. I'll ask him to ship it via snailmail.
[02:04] <nickrud> kag, look up
[02:04] <kmilo> AJ004, the Penguin Liberation Front make packages for patent trouble applications
[02:05] <gpm> hey guys. i want to copy all the .* stuff (.gnome, .gaim, etc.) but NOT the other stuff in a folder...how do i do that? i tried cp -R ~/.* ...but it copied the normal non . folders too..thanks!
[02:05] <MarcN> AJ004: I said ~/bin, not /bin -- that is /home/yourusername/bin/  directory
[02:05] <dooglus> XiXaQ: that's why I suggested 4 parts.  20Mb is OK for a gmail attachment
[02:05] <kag> Matthewv: yes, but everything looks fine to me (a relatively newbie)
[02:05] <seanb64_> I downloaded and reburned the cd twice
[02:05] <seanb64_> and it seems to boot normally, but after the splash, it says it can't start the X server
[02:05] <ToHellWithGA> SAM_theman: is qemu the kind of thing i can use to run a full installation of windows with USB support then freeze it until i need it again?
[02:05] <KickStandimus> jjazz:unless I have to restart my router after making a change?
[02:05] <jjazz> KickStandimus: damn.  I don't know what to tell you.  We've reached the end of my list of things to try.
[02:05] <delire> Bassetts: you can use wget --limit-rate=<rate> if it's choking your line..
[02:05] <jjazz> KickStandimus: No, most routers make changes immediately.
[02:05] <n30n> RancidLM: other than creating a new user not really no.
[02:05] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, theoretically, yes
[02:05] <ToHellWithGA> pwn
[02:05] <XiXaQ> dooglus, so he has to send four mails, or can he make four attachements to one single mail?
[02:05] <Matthewv> kag, so the monitor is capable of higher refresh rate, and those rates are written in xorg.conf
[02:05] <seanb64_> and thats it
[02:05] <KickStandimus> jjazz: okay , thanks for you help dude, I'll try a few more things
[02:05] <n30n> RancidLM: i'm sure theres a way but, i don't know it
[02:05] <AJ004> no
[02:05] <jjazz> KickStandimus: good luck
[02:05] <AJ004> its in Google-Earth
[02:05] <Bassetts> delire: nope, its fine, i like it maxing my connection, normally if im downloading i want it full speed
[02:05] <dooglus> seanb64_: the 'desktop' dapper cd?
[02:06] <geneo93> !java
[02:06] <delire> Bassetts: ;)
[02:06] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[02:06] <KickStandimus> jjazz: if you think of anything else let me know
[02:06] <jjazz> KickStandimus: Will do
[02:06] <seanb64_> yes
[02:06] <kag> Matthewv: oh right, let me check that
[02:06] <Bassetts> delire: especially as i normally leave it downloading 2gig+ files
[02:06] <dooglus> XiXaQ: I'm not sure.  but 4 mails is better - then if one fails, he only has to send that one again.
[02:06] <seanb64_> the desktop distribution of PPC Dapper
[02:06] <dooglus> XiXaQ: if he's on windows though, he probably won't know how to split it into 4 parts.
[02:06] <lenny__> hi. how can I install mp3 support on ubuntu?
[02:06] <n30n> What's kubuntu
[02:07] <basbryan> !resrictedformats
[02:07] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, basbryan
[02:07] <seanb64_> ubuntu with a k
[02:07] <Matthewv> !restricted
[02:07] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[02:07] <dooglus> n30n: it's ubuntu with KDE instead of GNOME
[02:07] <yurif> Sam_theman, thx!
[02:07] <n30n> seanb64_: thanks. that helped so much
[02:07] <n30n> dooglus: ohhhh
[02:07] <JohnsonE> ok guys i'm pretty bored. what awesome linux app should i get to occupy me?
[02:07] <yurif> That url help me!
[02:07] <kag> Matthewv: thanks, I think this is the problem. I thought the problem was with the video card driver instead of the monitor
[02:07] <seanb64_> sorry, I was joking
[02:07] <n30n> *slk*
[02:07] <Matthewv> kag no probs
[02:07] <SAM_theman> yurif, weelcome it worked?
[02:07] <dooglus> seanb64_: I don't know why it can't start X.  do you have weird graphics card?
[02:07] <n30n> #s
[02:07] <nickrud> JohnsonE, inkscape
[02:07] <n30n> hm..
[02:07] <lenny__> ok thnks bye
[02:08] <seanb64_> brb
[02:08] <kmilo> JohnsonE, bos
[02:08] <dooglus> n30n: see also xubuntu - ubuntu with XFCE4 instead of GNOME
[02:08] <yurif> SAM_theman, I just change nvidia-glx to nvidia-glx-legacy
[02:08] <n30n> dooglus: XFCE4? Haven't heard of that
[02:08] <nickrud> JohnsonE, and if you're masochistic, emacs21
[02:08] <SAM_theman> yurif, o ok i thought so
[02:08] <dooglus> n30n: it's a lightweight desktop environment - like GNOME but lighter.  uses GTK, like GNOME
[02:08] <seanb64_> I have a ATI Radeon 9200
[02:08] <basbryan> !restricted lenny
[02:08] <ubotu> basbryan: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:08] <yurif> SAM_theman, well Thx!!!!
[02:08] <seanb64_> my graphics card
[02:09] <n30n> dooglus: is that also a free distro?
[02:09] <SAM_theman> yurif, Yo np anytime
[02:09] <SAM_theman> seanb64_, yo whats the problem
[02:09] <dooglus> n30n: install package 'xubuntu-desktop' if you want to try it, then choose 'xfce' session from the login screen.  it won't hurt GNOME
[02:09] <dooglus> n30n: yes.
[02:09] <JohnsonE> nickrud: what's bos? not getting anything good on google
[02:09] <basbryan> !restricted
[02:09] <kmilo> JohnsonE, emacs with his psychotherapist
[02:09] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[02:09] <AJ004> how do i run googleearth
[02:09] <AJ004> it says command not found but its listed in the directory
[02:09] <delire> basbryan: i don't know how helpful that is really. most new users wouldn't even know that message is for them, let alone that the mp3 format is in any way 'restricted'.
[02:09] <kmilo> JohnsonE, battle of survival
[02:09] <seanb64_> loaded and reburned the cd twice
[02:09] <seanb64_> and it seems to boot normally, but after the splash, it says it can't start the X server
[02:09] <nickrud> JohnsonE, apt-cache search bos (or look up bos in synaptic)
[02:09] <n30n> dooglus: yeah i wanna check that out. Use synaptic for that?
[02:09] <SAM_theman> AJ004, umm dude u using wine??
[02:09] <seanb64_>  and thats it
[02:09] <dooglus> n30n: yes
[02:10] <AJ004> its not on wine
[02:10] <AJ004> its native linux gnu
[02:10] <kag> Matthewv: after I make changes to xorg.com, can I just restart xorg instead of rebooting?
[02:10] <delire> basbryan: i think it's best to explain it to them directly.
[02:10] <SAM_theman> AJ004, hmm...
[02:10] <seanb64_> what do I do
[02:10] <delire> kag: yes
[02:10] <seanb64_> try Kubuntu?
[02:10] <n30n> dooglus: thanks dude.
[02:10] <seanb64_>  oh god say no, not another 2 hour download
[02:10] <SAM_theman> seanb64_, try reinstalll x server and then do the whole process again
[02:10] <seanb64_> ?
[02:10] <kmilo> JohnsonE, http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/games/bos
[02:10] <kag> delire: what would the command be ?
[02:10] <nickrud> kag, yes, log out of your desktop, hit ctl-alt-backspace
[02:11] <dribble> y'all have any recommendations for a piece of (GUI) software which can allow me to view which directories are taking up the most space?
[02:11] <kag> ok thx!
[02:11] <AJ004> how do u run a file in terminal?
[02:11] <seanb64_> and how?
[02:11] <AJ004> just type the file name?
[02:11] <dooglus> seanb64_: if the regular ubuntu disk can't run x.org, I don't see why the kubuntu disk would be able to - it's the same X server.
[02:11] <n30n> dooglus: Is it easily undone if i don't like it?
[02:11] <Yoosah> dribble: filelight
[02:11] <delire> kag: hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE (you'll lose any open work)
[02:11] <nickrud> AJ004, more often than not, yes
[02:11] <seanb64_> soooo
[02:11] <AJ004> nickrud it says command not found
[02:11] <delire> kag: and also this chat session!
[02:11] <seanb64_> what ddo I do?
[02:11] <seanb64_> exactly
[02:11] <dooglus> seanb64_: if you are going to download another CD image, I suggest the 'alternate' ubuntu iso - that's a text-based installer.
[02:11] <AJ004> i try to cd to the directory it says its not a directory
[02:11] <nickrud> delire, so always mention logging out first :)
[02:11] <AJ004> so its a file
[02:11] <AJ004> but when i type the filename it says command not found
[02:11] <XiXaQ> dooglus, that's right. He doesn't, and I'm not able to explain it to him right now. :(
[02:11] <dribble> Yoosah, any gtk apps?
[02:11] <seanb64_> *sigh* ok
[02:12] <delire> nickrud: probably wise yes ;)
[02:12] <JohnsonE> hmm, bos is looking sexy. i'll check it out
[02:12] <kag> delire: :) don't worry it's on another computer :) thanks
[02:12] <n30n> AJ004: do you have admin access?
[02:12] <delire> kag: ;)
[02:12] <AJ004> n30n:  yep
[02:12] <AJ004> its my puter
[02:12] <Yoosah> dribble: i just know filelight does what you asked
[02:12] <nickrud> AJ004, what is the file, where is it, and is it executable? (the big three questions)
[02:12] <AJ004> should i sudo it?
[02:12] <dooglus> n30n: you chose at login whether to run GNOME or XFCE4, so it's easy not to run it, yes.  uninstalling it, on the other hand, is easy if you use debfoster or aptitude to manage your packages
[02:12] <AJ004> current.tar.bz2  EasyUbuntu_2006-06-12     easyubuntu-3.0.tar.gz  google-earth
[02:12] <AJ004> Desktop          easyubuntu-3.01.tar.gz    Examples
[02:12] <AJ004> easyubuntu       easyubuntu-3.01.tar.gz.1  googleearth
[02:12] <n30n> dooglus: ok sweet. so its setting up a duel boot i take it?
[02:12] <dribble> Yoosah, it does, i just googled it and it looks aweeesome.  but, sadly this is for my gentoo box (which i'm trying to backup so i can put dapper on it), and i don't have the patience/time to compile qt
[02:13] <AJ004> i typed googleearth, and nada
[02:13] <ceruleantiger> I have a quick question regarding the new dapper livecd install. When I double click on the install icon on the desktop, it runs through the installation process, but then at 97% completion, it fails. Here's another person who had a similar error and posted it as a bug report: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/49180
[02:13] <dooglus> n30n: when you install 'xubuntu-desktop', it will pull in a lot of dependencies.  you may have noticed that if you use synaptic to uninstall a package, it won't uninstall the dependencies that it installed when you installed the package...
[02:13] <AJ004> i moved to the google-earth directory and then typed googleearth and nada
[02:13] <nickrud> AJ004, try ~/google-earth/googleearth
[02:13] <AJ004> command not found on both
[02:13] <AJ004> ok
[02:13] <Yoosah> dribble: emerge faster-compiler :P
[02:13] <Parthenon> hi
[02:13] <ToHellWithGA> nickrud: have you read the qemu xp installation page for ubuntu?  the licensing bit is a riot
[02:13] <ceruleantiger> I have no idea how to get around this bug though... and I don't see any solutions on the page either... and I've looked everywhere
[02:13] <dooglus> n30n: no, it's still the same boot - same kernel, same x server.  just a different 'session' in the login screen.
[02:13] <seanb64_> well... at least it's smaler
[02:13] <seanb64_> and can I install from the disk
[02:13] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, no, you have a quick link?
[02:13] <dooglus> n30n: you see 'options' in the bottom left of the login screen - it's in there, the choice.
[02:14] <seanb64_> without just booting from the disk?
[02:14] <Hso> i'm having a major browser/plugin problem.. I want to view the embedded (.mov) video file on this webpage ( http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article442072.ece ), but swiftfox closes down IMMEDIATELY, Opera can load the page, but cannot stream the video... no MOV support? any idea why certain pages just *kill* firefox?
[02:14] <AJ004> nickrud bingo!
[02:14] <Parthenon> just curious, where can i get a ubuntu live cd?
[02:14] <n30n> dooglus: okay. I gotcha
[02:14] <NoWhereToTurn> Ok retrying Ubuntu install # 350. Since Breezy was a failure installing I have gone back to Drapper Alternate Install ISO. Minimum requirements is a SWAP volume and a / mount point correct?
[02:14] <AJ004> nickrud ok now how do i install an icon for this
[02:14] <nickrud> AJ004, and just a note: three lines of paste is the max :)
[02:14] <n30n> dooglus: i shall return soon.
[02:14] <kmilo> dribble, find ~ -size +1000k
[02:14] <i> where can i download open office
[02:14] <AJ004> nickrud i want to add it in the internet section
[02:14] <dooglus> seanb64_: the 'alternate' cd still needs booting from, but it installs without having to run X first, unlike the 'desktop' cd.
[02:14] <cge> Hso: It is the plugin that is crashing firefox.
[02:14] <Hso> i - www.openoffice.org
[02:14] <nickrud> AJ004, Applications->Alacarte , add a menu entry with that
[02:14] <i> ok
[02:14] <i> thank
[02:14] <cge> i: For Ubuntu?
[02:14] <i> you
[02:14] <jjazz> Hso: Firefox doesn't protect you from buggy plugins.
[02:14] <Hso> cge - is it a faulty plugin, or a bad configuartion?
[02:14] <seanb64_> would it help if it is locally installed with the X issue?
[02:15] <n30n> i: i like your sn.
[02:15] <n30n> i: lol
[02:15] <KickStandimus> I need somebody to help me with my wireless adapter, can anybody do that please?
[02:15] <cge> Hso: Probably something faulty with the plugin - either the plugin itself or the plugin configuration.
[02:15] <AJ004> weird
[02:15] <AJ004> google earth is in there
[02:15] <dooglus> seanb64_: you're not having problems booting from CDs are you?  it's just that the CD doesn't work fully once it has booted, right?
[02:15] <AJ004> but its not listed
[02:15] <kag> I installed Ubuntu Desktop because I like to have a spare desktop, but its main tasks is gonna be web(php)/mysql/ftp... are there any special steps I should take before opening port 80 and 21?
[02:15] <Hso> I also tried to view the source in Opera so I could whack the video URL into Mplayer, but it can't find Xedit, or something ?_?
[02:15] <AJ004> maybe i need to logout and login
[02:15] <cge> kag: no
[02:15] <Hso> cge - know any fixes for it? :P
[02:15] <AJ004> let me relog
[02:15] <AJ004> brb
[02:15] <nickrud> AJ004, try killall gnome-panel first
[02:15] <Daskies> Anyone know of an app that will let me burn executable CDs?
[02:15] <Daskies> I can't seem to find anything
[02:15] <dooglus> seanb64_: it's quite possible that you will have the same problem with the alternate disk as with the desktop disk.  it's also possible you won't...
[02:16] <dribble> jdiskreport
[02:16] <dribble> there we go
[02:16] <mardi> hi, anyone know where i find the latest gnome repositories?
[02:16] <ToHellWithGA> nickrud: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:16] <AJ004> nickrud bingo
[02:16] <AJ004> its there :)
[02:16] <dooglus> seanb64_: if it was me, I would try to troubleshoot what's going wrong before downloading another 700Mb...
[02:16] <cge> Hso: Not really, and I'm rather occupied right now installing a kernel with parts of cpufreq.c commented out :)
[02:16] <AJ004> nickrud thanks :) that solved everything
[02:16] <Parthenon> !list
[02:16] <ubotu> it has been said that list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:16] <Hso> uff :P
[02:16] <KickStandimus> can somebody help me getting my wireless connection up and going please?
[02:16] <mardi> !repository
[02:16] <Hso> good luck with that :P
[02:16] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mardi
[02:16] <KickStandimus> I've tried all the documentation I can find
[02:17] <AJ004> if google comes out with google pack for linux ill be set
[02:17] <cge> Hso: Since my laptop is currently stuck at 600MHz instead of 1600MHz.
[02:17] <AJ004> and i know they will :)
[02:17] <dooglus> seanb64_: are you on the computer you're trying to boot with the desktop CD now?  or do you have more than one PC?
[02:17] <Hso> wow.. painful lol
[02:17] <AJ004> if its even needed
[02:17] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, I gotta adapt that for restricted formats :)
[02:17] <i> im thinking of getting a new computer.  I want it to be really fast.  What program should I run
[02:17] <KickStandimus> can somebody help me getting my wireless connection up and going please?
[02:17] <i> no
[02:17] <cge> i: What do you mean?
[02:18] <Hso> a benchmark, i?
[02:18] <dooglus> cge: he wants to know which program is fastest, of course!
[02:18] <Hso> to test how fast the new PC will be?
[02:18] <ToHellWithGA> i can't believe anyone would use a nick like "i".  he must be highlighted every line
[02:18] <Hso> ToHellWithGA, - heh
[02:18] <Hso> you've gotta love attention seekers ;P
[02:18] <MarcN> KickStandimus: are you running nm-applet
[02:18] <Hso> cage :P
[02:18] <jughead> I have files on my ubuntu desktop that I would like to rad-only on my xp home laptop; what program do I use?
[02:18] <KickStandimus> can somebody help me getting my wireless connection up and going please? I've been through the forums and google and can't seem to figure it out. It may be something obvious
[02:18] <JohnsonE> ahh! i installed bos but it's not there!
[02:18] <jughead> *rad-only sorry
[02:19] <KickStandimus> MarcN: i don't know what that is
[02:19] <ToHellWithGA> how do i check my kernel version?
[02:19] <Hso> JohnsonE, - there? have you tried killing Gnome?
[02:19] <KickStandimus> MarcN: is that the built in network setting this in ubuntu?
[02:19] <nickrud> jughead, I've always liked e2explore for reading linux partitions under windows
[02:19] <Amaranth> !wireless
[02:19] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[02:19] <NoWhereToTurn> Ok retrying Ubuntu install # 350. Since Breezy was a failure installing I have gone back to Drapper Alternate Install ISO. Minimum requirements is a SWAP volume and a / mount point correct?
[02:19] <ceruleantiger> I think one of the reasons why the install from liveCD is failing is maybe because the default hda1 is ~1GB, and it is filling up before completing the install. It seems to fill up to 100% exactly, which leads me to believe it's not downloading everything because there isn't enough space
[02:19] <KickStandimus> Yeah but it sort of does work ubotu
[02:19] <Amaranth> NoWhereToTurn: yep
[02:20] <kmilo> JohnsonE, /usr/games/stratagus-bos
[02:20] <ceruleantiger> does anyone know how to resize partitions when running off the liveCD (without reboot obviously)?
[02:20] <cge> NoWhereToTurn: You don't need the swap if you really don't want it.
[02:20] <NoWhereToTurn> Ok thats what I have always been doing during all these installations
[02:20] <Amaranth> NoWhereToTurn: make sure your swap is 2xRAM (unless you have like 2GB ram) and / has at least 4GB
[02:20] <ceruleantiger> I'm sorta a linux noob, so any help is appreciated
[02:20] <KickStandimus> ubotu: what it does is recognize my networks and my neighbors but wont let me connect
[02:20] <ubotu> KickStandimus: what are you talking about?
[02:20] <gemidjy> how can I tell Ubuntu (dapper drake) live to load vesa and not ati as driver ?
[02:20] <kmilo> ceruleantiger, gparted
[02:20] <dooglus> JohnsonE: /usr/games/stratagus-bos
[02:20] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: using networkmanager?
[02:20] <ToHellWithGA> do yall know offhand the bash command to display information about my kernel?
[02:20] <Amaranth> ToHellWithGA: uname -a
[02:20] <Hso> KickStandimus, - heh.. you made a funny :P "ubotu" is a robot.. it's just a script :P
[02:20] <dooglus> ToHellWithGA: uname -r
[02:20] <jjazz> KickStandimus: ubotu is a bot.  I has a very limited repetoire and isn't much for conversation.
[02:21] <KickStandimus> MarcN: I thought you were talking to me. about the wireless issue. All I was saying was that I can see my wap but can't connect to internet
[02:21] <ToHellWithGA> thank Amaranth and dooglus
[02:21] <nickrud> jughead, erm, it's actually named explore2fs
[02:21] <KickStandimus> ah
[02:21] <ToHellWithGA> *thanks
[02:21] <KickStandimus> thanks
[02:21] <Hso> heh
[02:21] <NoWhereToTurn> Amaranth thanks
[02:21] <SAM_theman> brb
[02:21] <SAM_theman> restarting X
[02:21] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: No i'm not
[02:21] <cge> NoWhereToTurn: If you have enough RAM that you won't swap out, you can leave out the swap partition. I ran without one for a few weeks with no problems, except hibernate won't work.
[02:21] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: switch to that
[02:21] <Daskies> If I burn an ISO is it automatically bootable?
[02:21] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: I believe it's included on the CD if your ubuntu box doesn't have network access.
[02:21] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: what is that. How do I do that
[02:21] <NoWhereToTurn> No I have lots of swap partitions from the other distros on this box
[02:21] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: install the network-manager-gnome package in synaptic
[02:21] <Hso> Daskies, if it's an official ubuntu iso, it should be
[02:22] <dooglus> Daskies: only if it's a bootable ISO
[02:22] <nickrud> Daskies, if it's a bootable iso image
[02:22] <cge> NoWhereToTurn: Ah. Then it doesn't matter much.
[02:22] <gemidjy> how can I tell Ubuntu (dapper drake) live to load vesa and not ati as driver ?
[02:22] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: I can't connect so I can't use synaptic
[02:22] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: You can't hook up to ethernet while you get it working?
[02:22] <Daskies> Hso, dooglus , nickrud: It's from ubuntu.com so I guess it is :D
[02:22] <KickStandimus> not on my linux box, only on my laptop
[02:22] <kmilo> gemidjy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:22] <Hso> then yeah :P
[02:22] <nickrud> gemidjy, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace ati with vesa
[02:22] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Let me guess, stealing wireless from the neighbors? :)
[02:23] <dooglus> Daskies: you'll maybe need to enable booting from CD in your BIOS too
[02:23] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Ok, I guess we'll have to do this manually.
[02:23] <gemidjy> nickrud: I am talking about Live CD here
[02:23] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: no not stealing
[02:23] <Hso> heh, I believe a british guy got fined 500GBP for leeching someone's wifi :P
[02:23] <_jason> gemidjy: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:23] <Daskies> dooglus, Already done :)
[02:23] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Do you know the name of the wireless network? Does it have a password?
[02:23] <gemidjy> god damn it.........!
[02:23] <nickrud> gemidjy, oh, no clue then.
[02:23] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Sharing then. :P
[02:23] <gemidjy> _jason: live cd
[02:23] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: Yes i know the name no I don't have a password
[02:23] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: I turned it off for testing purposes
[02:23] <dooglus> Daskies: you should be "all set" then, as they say in the US of A
[02:23] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: ok, do you know what device is your wireless card (eth1 is usually it)
[02:23] <Daskies> Thanks, dooglus
[02:23] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: It's ath0
[02:23] <Hso> o.O?
[02:24] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Ok, cool.
[02:24] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: open a terminal
[02:24] <MarcN> KickStandimus: if you install the gnome-network-manager package and start the networkmanager applet, connecting to a network is very simple (assuming your wireless card is supported)
[02:24] <nickrud> gemidjy, but I would expect that under F1 or F2 or one of those help pages will have a way
[02:24] <Hso> why would eth1 be a wireless card? doesn't eth mean ethernet ?_?
[02:24] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: open
[02:24] <_jason> gemidjy: can't you still use either method and restart X?
[02:24] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: sudo iwconfig ath0 essid <networkid>
[02:24] <gemidjy> _jason: are u stupid or what?
[02:24] <KickStandimus> MarkN: That will be a pain w/out a package manager
[02:24] <gemidjy> nickrud: ok thanks, will try
[02:24] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: It says the right wap
[02:24] <nickrud> gemidjy, actually he isn't, please be polite
[02:24] <Hso> gemidjy, he's here to learn ~_~
[02:24] <NoWhereToTurn> Does the bootable flag have to be turned on the / partition in the partitioner ?
[02:25] <MarcN> KickStandimus: apt-get? synaptic?
[02:25] <Hexidigital_> well that was unnecessary
[02:25] <ceruleantiger> kmilo I think liveCDs run exclusively in swap, is there any way to resize swap partitions on the fly? it doesn't seem like you can from gparted
[02:25] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Running just 'iwconfig' shows that the card has the right frequency, AP, etc?
[02:25] <kmilo> NoWhereToTurn, no
[02:25] <KickStandimus> MarcN: Yes but I can't connect
[02:25] <MarcN> KickStandimus: oh, you mean 'no network'
[02:25] <KickStandimus> MarcN: Not on my linux box, no , only on my mac
[02:25] <dooglus> NoWhereToTurn: I have it 'on' for my ubuntu '/' and 'off' for my debian '/', and LILO can boot them both the same - so my guess is that it doesn't matter.
[02:25] <Hso> heh, i've been using the breezy livecd for about a month, now :P I can do most of what I want, 'cept for compiling.. that's a major no-no :(
[02:25] <Amaranth> MarcN: I think I've got it. :)
[02:26] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: Okay hold on
[02:26] <Hexidigital_> Hso:: why not install to hdd?
[02:26] <nickrud> Live cds suck.
[02:26] <nickrud> by definition :)
[02:26] <kbrooks> end of story.
[02:26] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: frequency 2.`42
[02:26] <kbrooks> live cds are, well, live
[02:26] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: 2.142
[02:26] <Hso> Hexidigital_, it's not my PC.. i'm just borrowing it while my RMA of my motherboard gets sorted out :(
[02:26] <Hexidigital_> Hso:: do you have any hardware conflicts?
[02:26] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Ok, as long as it says something it's good.
[02:26] <PlHL> Hi! Could someone recommend a good FTP server/client for Ubuntu?
[02:26] <kbrooks> they're alive. End of story
[02:26] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: sudo dhclient ath0
[02:26] <Hso> Hexidigital_, not that I know of :P
[02:26] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: AP is correct as well
[02:26] <Hexidigital_> Hso:: ah
[02:26] <SAM_theman> help!!!!
[02:26] <dooglus> nickrud: the 6.06 live CD is really pretty good - it runs about as fast as my HDD install, probably due to the fact that it detects and uses my vast swap partition.
[02:26] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Once you run that it should work.
[02:26] <nickrud> But, I keep my lnx-bbc around, cuz I know it backwards & forwards (or did)
[02:26] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: Tried it, I get bad output
[02:26] <cge> It worked! My CPU didn't die! I am actually running at 1600 MHz now instead of 600!
[02:27] <kmilo> ceruleantiger, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[02:27] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: oy
[02:27] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: I'll try again
[02:27] <delire_bbl> i'm helping someone remotely here by telephone fix a problem whereby if they change the panel size in Dapper they can no longer log in, instead are dumped back to the login screen. moving ~/.gconf allows them to log in, but the problem remains if they change this problem. anyone encountered this bug?
[02:27] <NoWhereToTurn> dooglus ok thanks.. just trying to understand why I have never had this much problems installing a Linux distro as I have with Ubuntu
[02:27] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Is ath0 shown in 'ifconfig'?
[02:27] <nickrud> dooglus, sweeping statements suck. By definition :)
[02:27] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: yes
[02:27] <cge> delire: Hmm... Let me try it.
[02:27] <delire> cge: thanks..
[02:27] <dooglus> NoWhereToTurn: because it's "linux for human beings"?  what species are you, by the way?
[02:27] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: If this doesn't work I'm out of ideas then. :/
[02:27] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Unless it gives good info.
[02:27] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: crap hold on
[02:27] <dooglus> nickrud: what, all of them?
[02:28] <cge> NoWhereToTurn: what problems are you having?
[02:28] <zuhause01xx> hello
[02:28] <nickrud> dooglus, yes, because nuances is where the truth is. But, I'm so off topic
[02:28] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: yeah so far it looks liek same crap
[02:28] <PlHL> A FTP server/client for Ubuntu? anybody?
[02:28] <zuhause01xx> where can i find the internet logfiles in ubuntu breezy
[02:28] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: Hey no it's different now
[02:28] <dooglus> NoWhereToTurn: I had problems installing ubuntu too.  I had to tell it to use lilo instead of grub in the end to get it bootable.
[02:28] <cge> PlHL: A server or a client?
[02:28] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: What does it say?
[02:28] <Hso> plHL - gftp, i think :P
[02:28] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: bound to 10.0.1.2 - - renewal in 5559 seconds
[02:29] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: awesome
[02:29] <Hexidigital_> PlHL:: proftpd is good too
[02:29] <Hso> yeah..
[02:29] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: That means it worked
[02:29] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: Okay hold on
[02:29] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: try firefox
[02:29] <PlHL> cge If it could both then great. Klient the most important though
[02:29] <Hso> i've used proftpd, I used it for a few hours but I couldn't figure out why people couldn't upload to it :(
[02:29] <NoWhereToTurn> Well the installer complains that the ext2 partition # 6 on hda has uncrorrected errors (installing Ubuntu into hdb14) and when I run e2fsck on that prtition there are no errors reported. I can not get grub to install
[02:29] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: You are officially the man
[02:29] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: I didn't do anything I didn't do before is the wierd thing though
[02:29] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Ok, now use synaptic to install network-manager-gnome
[02:29] <Hexidigital_> PlHL:: use proftpd as server, and firefox as the client
[02:29] <SAM_theman> brb
[02:29] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: It does all this crap for you.
[02:30] <cge> PlHL: ftp the ftp client is installed by default.
[02:30] <Hexidigital_> Hso:: they need an account on your machine by default to upload... you have to configure the settings
[02:30] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: Can I use that to get my nvidia drivers too?
[02:30] <cge> PlHL: I personally like lftp better, but that is probably in universe. Nautilus also can work as an ftp client.
[02:30] <Amaranth> PlHL: In GNOME nautilus can do FTP
[02:30] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Yep.
[02:30] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: That's the nvidia-glx package.
[02:30] <bimberi> !nautilusftp
[02:30] <ubotu> You can use nautilus (the Gnome file manager) as an FTP client.  Go to  Places -> Connect to Server  to get started.
[02:30] <PlHL> Hm, i see :)
[02:30] <Yoosah> WHY does my selfmknodded /dev/video as wel as the /dev/video0 link to it disappear after a boot?
[02:31] <delight> Hi, is there a way to (re)install grub (additional) on the first sector of the root partition ? Got a nice dapper from desktop-cd with grub in mbr ... would like to get it to the /dev/sda6 (root partition ext3)
[02:31] <cge> Yoosah: Because /dev isn't a real file system
[02:31] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: Also where can I find info about all of the network commands you gave me or a list in case I want to help somebody else with all of this
[02:31] <Hexidigital_> nautilus is so good, it works as a GUI SSH client also :!
[02:31] <Amaranth> Yoosah: because mknod is a one time only thing
[02:31] <dooglus> Yoosah: because /dev isn't a real file - what cge said
[02:31] <Hso> hexi - I already made them an account.. it was mad! XD
[02:31] <cge> Yoosah: Everything in it is created at each boot.
[02:31] <Yoosah> aha!
[02:31] <Hexidigital_> Hso:: :( dunno
[02:31] <delire> PlHL: some like gftp also, though i'd try nautilus itself first.
[02:31] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: in a terminal running 'man iwconfig' tells you all the things you can set
[02:31] <Hso> indeed :( I gave up, in the end :(
[02:31] <dooglus> Yoosah: ... by udev.  configure udev to make the devices you want
[02:31] <Hexidigital_> Hso:: proftp has an irc channel on freenode... #proftp i think
[02:31] <Yoosah> problem is, i think a driver for my webcam should create it
[02:31] <cge> Yoosah: There is a way to create them on each boot, but I don't know how.
[02:31] <Yoosah> ah yes i ran into udev already
[02:31] <Hso> i'll look into that once I get my motherboard back, and then i'll INSTALL ubuntu :P
[02:32] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Usually 'sudo iwconfig <device> essid <networkname> && sudo dhclient <device>' is all you need.
[02:32] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: cool, where can I download that thing in synaptic
[02:32] <PlHL> I think I'll try Nautilus, gftp and proftp then .. :)
[02:32] <Hso> anyway, I need to lay down.. this insane heat is so depressing :(
[02:32] <delire> Yoosah: yes, that's correct, assuming you have v4l support in the kernel.
[02:32] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: in gnome or networking
[02:32] <Yoosah> but the device ID for my cam is not showin up on any forum or in compatibilty lists
[02:32] <PlHL> See which FTP fits me best :)
[02:32] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: Search for 'netowkr-manager-gnome'
[02:32] <delire> Yoosah: (and the driver works)
[02:32] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: browsing is slow :P
[02:32] <cge> delire: I'm not seeing the problem.
[02:32] <Yoosah> that is what i'm doubting, delire
[02:32] <PlHL> Thanks by the way
[02:32] <cge> delire: ... with a clean account.
[02:33] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: err, network-manager-gnome
[02:33] <delire> cge: nor do i here.. there's nothing in malone about it either. it's a difficult problem to address as the user at the other end isn't online.
[02:33] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: yeah, dude thank's a lot I can take it from here
[02:33] <cge> delire: Has the user tried it with a clean account?
[02:33] <Hexidigital_> KickStandimus:: sudo apt-cache search gnome-network-manager
[02:33] <delire> cge: yes it also occurs with a new account.
[02:33] <KickStandimus> Amaranth: Once again you are the man
[02:33] <ToHellWithGA> has anybody here built (k)qemu with gcc 4?
[02:33] <cge> delire: Oh.
[02:34] <Amaranth> KickStandimus: happy to help :)
[02:34] <delire> cge: quite odd. i had her read out ~/.xsession-errors and there was nothing conspicuous..
[02:34] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, I think you must use gcc-3.4 for kernel stuff, I think the kernel is still built with that. Not sure, though
[02:34] <ToHellWithGA> ok
[02:34] <Amaranth> nickrud: in dapper the kernel is built with gcc 4
[02:34] <nickrud> Amaranth, thanks
[02:35] <cge> delire: Maybe have her go into a xterm session or something, and start gnome-panel, to see if there is any output that might be helpful?
[02:35] <delire> cge: that's a good suggestion. cheers..
[02:35] <cge> delire: I have no idea why that would kill gnome-session though.
[02:36] <Amaranth> If you're suddenly getting logged out X is probably crashing.
[02:36] <SAM_theman> Yo does Dapper Support The Deskjet 3653
[02:36] <Amaranth> !printer
[02:36] <ubotu> I heard printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[02:36] <jughead> I need help sharing a folder on my desktop (ubuntu) with my laptop (xp home)
[02:36] <Amaranth> !samba
[02:36] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[02:36] <delire> cge: no, initially i suspected ~/.Xauthority or ~/.ICEauthority permissions to be culprits, but they weren't. a fresh account proved this.
[02:36] <Amaranth> jughead: that should help you
[02:36] <SAM_theman> !hp
[02:36] <ubotu> methinks hp is at http://www.hp.com/pressrel/jun99/21jun99g.htm, or *the* original brown sauce from 1889. See: http://www.higherdesign.com/brownsauce/hpsauce.htm.  Hewlett Packard, maker of calculators and printers and computers and other silicon goodness
[02:36] <Amaranth> wtf
[02:37] <dribble> it really seems like my gentoo box doesn't want to be backed up (i was myopic and didn't put /home on it's on partition)
[02:37] <cge> delire: I don't see how those would be affected by the panel size change, either. Maybe gconf is corrupting something when that change is made, enough so that gnome-session dies.
[02:37] <Amaranth> SAM_theman: ubotu already gave you info
[02:37] <Mersault> is there anything special to using breezy packages on a dapper system? can I just put the lines in my sources.list and use the packages? or do i have to do something to make it not check breezy vs dapper for these particular repo's?
[02:37] <Amaranth> SAM_theman: look at what it said for !printer
[02:37] <Amaranth> Mersault: What are you wanting to do?
[02:37] <SAM_theman> Amaranth, yeah smarty pants I din't ask for that I ask a question Does Dapper Support Deskjet 3653??
[02:38] <nickrud> heh. Somone should mention !hp to cafuego
[02:38] <Mersault> there are some mythtv packages that were made for breezy that I've heard are working fine with dapper
[02:38] <delire> cge: it's pretty mysterious that's for sure. next support call we'll look at gnome-session. thanks.
[02:38] <Mersault> from deb.thehunter.ws
[02:38] <Amaranth> SAM_theman: And I gave you a link that lets you find out.
[02:38] <cge> SAM_theman: Look on linuxprinting.org. It has a database of what printers are supported.
[02:38] <delire> SAM_theman: you can also look at http://linux-printing.org
[02:38] <Amaranth> !forget hp
[02:38] <delire> dupe!
[02:38] <ubotu> Amaranth: i forgot hp
[02:39] <nickrud> SAM_theman, you got the best info available: the 3653 is not mentioned in the printer database, only the 3650. linuxprinting.org will tell you if the 3650 driver works with the 3653
[02:39] <delire> SAM_theman: cge's url is correct (mine isn't)
[02:40] <cge> nickrud: It is quite useful, yes.
[02:40] <Mersault> Amaranth: dev.thehunter.ws is a repo for mythtv packages that I've read on some forums are working in dapper, I just don't know what the posters did to get them to work in dapper. I've used the packages on a breezy system and they were great
[02:40] <Amaranth> Mersault: they should work then
[02:40] <nando> msg nickserv link nando marco
[02:40] <cafuego> nickrud: why?
[02:40] <Amaranth> Mersault: just add them as if it was breezy
[02:40] <nando>  /msg nickserv link  marco
[02:41] <Mersault> Amaranth: okay. synaptic wont complain that they are flagged for breezy?
[02:41] <Amaranth> Mersault: shouldn't
[02:41] <Mersault> great!
[02:41] <nickrud> cafuego, because it had truly useless links, as far as I could see.
[02:41] <cafuego> nickrud: nothing wrong with hp sauce
[02:41] <nickrud> cafuego, and you edit well :)
[02:42] <cge> What can I quickly run to get my cpu to 100% as a test of cpufreq?
[02:42] <ceruleantiger> windows :P
[02:42] <cge> Hmm... never mind, yes seems to work.
[02:42] <cafuego> cge: kernel compile
[02:43] <cge> cafuego: Just needed a quick 2 or 3 second test.
[02:43] <bjornkri> I'm trying to connect to an ftp site but I keep getting the message "530 Have to use explicit SSL/TLS before logging on." Not sure what's going on... :S
[02:43] <cafuego> or start firefox/thunderbird/evolution
[02:43] <kmilo> cge, while true; do yes; done
[02:43] <cafuego> or ooo
[02:43] <Amaranth> cafuego: dunno what that's about but one of those links when to a spam parked domain and the other was a redirect to HP 2006 press releases
[02:43] <nickrud> cafuego, http://www.higherdesign.com/brownsauce/hpsauce.htm.  gets me a business page, nothing to do with hp as far as I could see
[02:43] <cge> cafuego: ooh, good idea.
[02:43] <xfcefreak> OOo uses more cpu than ff iirc
[02:43] <cafuego> damn spammers
[02:44] <cafuego> bjornkri: The ftp sites _requires_ you to use ssl.
[02:44] <darkgamer20> hey guys what dose it mean if the console displays "Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block ######" im trying to boot the live desktop cd
[02:44] <darkgamer20> the ##### yea a bunch of different numbers each time the error is diplayed
[02:44] <Amaranth> darkgamer20: If the CD isn't booting because of that error it's a bad burn or bad hardware
[02:45] <bjornkri> cafuego: ok... is there a simple way to do that?
[02:45] <cafuego> bjornkri: use an ftp client that supports ssl and start it with the right command line params.
[02:45] <bjornkri> is that sftp, or something more advanced? :P
[02:45] <darkgamer20> Amaranth: damn
[02:46] <darkgamer20> Amaranth: is there any way I can make sure its the cd's fault and not the hardware's fault?
[02:46] <Amaranth> sftp could be one of two things: FTP over SSL or SSH
[02:46] <Joe_scorp> im getting an error about libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 can someone send me a link to the file (i can only find it in rpw)
[02:46] <Amaranth> darkgamer20: I believe the boot menu has a check cd item
[02:46] <cafuego> bjornkri: No, sftp is for ssh. You want say 'lftp' with tls enabled.
[02:46] <roo_> darkgamer20, use whatever software you used to burn the CD to verify it.
[02:46] <zenithsglint> anyone having any luck with nvidia xinerama?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> zenithsglint: did you read the wiki?
[02:47] <nickrud> Joe_scorp, install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[02:47] <Joe_scorp> http://krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide#How_to_restart_GNOME_without_rebooting_computer
[02:47] <cafuego> bjornkri: After starting lftp, type 'set force-ssl on', then connect to the ftp site as per usual.
[02:47] <zenithsglint> no, I mean, I installed the nividia driver... but...
[02:47] <Joe_scorp> nickrud, where can i get it?\
[02:47] <zenithsglint> I guess. I could go try that.
[02:47] <cafuego> bjornkri: Remember to turn it back off when done.
[02:47] <gnomefreak> Joe_scorp: its in your menu too
[02:47] <nickrud> Joe_scorp, from apt-get orsynaptic
[02:47] <darkgamer20> Amaranth: what happend is that i choose the check cd option and then after checking a few files it gave me that error
[02:47] <Joe_scorp> thanks:)
[02:48] <Amaranth> Joe_scorp: You want the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package
[02:48] <darkgamer20> roo_: im using the iso recorder thing in windows (unfortunately)
[02:48] <bjornkri> yes, that worked
[02:48] <zenithsglint> gnomefreak... Ok, I guess it's been updated, since last time I tried, I'll go take a look.
[02:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zenithsglint -about xinerama
[02:48] <Amaranth> oh
[02:48] <Amaranth> hehe
[02:48] <bjornkri> thanks alot :)
[02:48] <nickrud> Joe_scorp, if you that doesn't work, come back, there might be one more step needed
[02:48] <gnomefreak> darkgamer20: its only on the alternative cd iirc
[02:48] <Joe_scorp> ok
[02:48] <Amaranth> darkgamer20: I'm thinking that means the CD is bad....
[02:48] <kbrooks> hm.
[02:48] <zenithsglint> oh, I'll wait for ubotu
[02:48] <help> hello
[02:48] <gnomefreak> zenithsglint: he pmed you already
[02:49] <darkgamer20> Amaranth: yea i thought so too, i guess i'll have to order the ubuntu disks
[02:49] <Amaranth> darkgamer20: You can't just burn again?
[02:49] <zenithsglint> oh yeah, hehe, getting used to gnome-X
[02:49] <zenithsglint> :)
[02:49] <darkgamer20> gnomefreak: did you mean to talk to me?
[02:49] <alexi5_> hello
[02:49] <help> can someone point me to a good sourcelist for dapper drake
[02:49] <Amaranth> darkgamer20: Burning at 4x or 2x is good.
[02:49] <Amaranth> !repos
[02:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:49] <help> I keep getting errors fromt he one at ubuntuguide.org
[02:49] <gnomefreak> darkgamer20: yes you asked what happened to check the cd for defects
[02:49] <alexi5_> what package contains the c libraries
[02:49] <nickrud> help, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 <-- those
[02:49] <Amaranth> help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[02:49] <alexi5_> such as stdio.h, stdlib,iostream.h,etc..
[02:50] <darkgamer20> Amaranth: that was like the 5th time i burned
[02:50] <darkgamer20> lol
[02:50] <Skip> hi
[02:50] <gnomefreak> help: than use help.ubuntu.com
[02:50] <help> thx
[02:50] <Amaranth> darkgamer20: ouch
[02:50] <darkgamer20> yea
[02:50] <Amaranth> darkgamer20: I've actually never had a problem with a CD and I burn at 24x or 12x (cd-r or cd-rw)
[02:50] <Skip> Where should I put the command '/etc/init.d/alsa.utils startup' ?
[02:50] <darkgamer20> Amaranth: oh ok
[02:50] <ne0h> can someone help me
[02:50] <darkgamer20> Amaranth: well thanks for your help
[02:50] <kmilo> Skip, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa.utils startup
[02:51] <ne0h> i cant use the internet with ubuntu
[02:51] <darkgamer20> see ya later
[02:51] <Amaranth> darkgamer20: sorry
[02:51] <kmilo> Skip, put it in the terminal
[02:51] <ne0h> does anyone know where i can get a driver patch
[02:51] <Amaranth> ne0h: what's the problem?
[02:51] <ne0h> my wifi card dosent work
[02:52] <Amaranth> ne0h: need details
[02:52] <Amaranth> otherwise...
[02:52] <Amaranth> !wireless
[02:52] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[02:52] <ne0h> i need to find a driver patch or something
[02:52] <gnomefreak> !wifi
[02:52] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:52] <intelikey> hmmm something seems to be missing here.   "sudo: unable to lookup localhost via gethostbyname()"   anyone want to help trubble shoot sudo ?
[02:52] <Amaranth> between those two you should be able to make it work :)
[02:52] <gnomefreak> ne0h: start with the driver
[02:52] <nickrud> which is better, wireless or wifi
[02:52] <Amaranth> intelikey: your /etc/hosts is messed up
[02:52] <gnomefreak> nickrud: same age
[02:52] <fiveiron> is there anything better than xchat for graphical irc?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> page
[02:53] <intelikey> Amaranth i don't think so.
[02:53] <nickrud> gnomefreak, ah, fine then :)
[02:53] <ne0h> I have a Broadcom 802.11b/g  WLAN
[02:53] <gnomefreak> nickrud: wifi is short wor wireless
[02:53] <Amaranth> intelikey: Unless you broke the networking stack in the kernel that has to be it.
[02:53] <gnomefreak> !broadcom
[02:53] <ubotu> it has been said that broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[02:53] <jughead> how do you put a space in folder paths?
[02:53] <jughead> is it %
[02:53] <gnomefreak> make that 3 pages ;)
[02:53] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I'm assuming those were redirected back and around then :)
[02:53] <bimberi> jughead: like\ this
[02:53] <Amaranth> jughead: mkdir Path\ With\ Spaces
[02:53] <alexi5_> what package do install to get the development libaries
[02:54] <alexi5_> for c and c++
[02:54] <gnomefreak> nickrud: i think they are listed on each page i havent looked at them in a while
[02:54] <nickrud> alex_, which development libraries?
[02:54] <Amaranth> alexi5_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:54] <gnomefreak> alexi5_: build-essential
[02:54] <intelikey> Amaranth well i just edited /etc/hosts and took all the ipv6 entries out and it still don't work.
[02:54] <kmilo> jughead, mkdir 'Path With Spaces'
[02:54] <jughead> I'm editing my samba.conf file, and the folder I want to share is called "My Music"
[02:54] <nickrud> intelikey, your /etc/hosts doesn't have the host name in it correctly, that's why sudo fails
[02:54] <Amaranth> intelikey: you have 127.0.0.1       localhost?
[02:54] <CrazyDoode_> rofl..  form the broadcom instructs..  Before you start, clear out any mess from existing failed attempts to use ndiswrapper.
[02:55] <intelikey> Amaranth yep
[02:55] <Amaranth> intelikey: odd....
[02:55] <intelikey> nickrud strick one.
[02:55] <nickrud> intelikey, heh. been there, done that. your /etc/hosts is wrong somewhere.
[02:56] <Amaranth> jughead: if it doesn't work with the slashes try My%20Music
[02:56] <CrazyDoode_> it should also say to edit blacklist and remove the bcm43xx line
[02:56] <jmworx> Not sure how to write a bug report on that one, but the way Ubuntu (Dapper this time) sets the hostname on install is pretty bad -- and got me blacklisted on Spamhaus
[02:57] <Amaranth> jmworx: what's wrong with it?
[02:57] <nickrud> jmworx, hostname appears in /etc/hostname, and /etc/hosts
[02:57] <intelikey> nope found it .  the /etc/init.d/networking svript wasn't ran.   i ran it and all is well.
[02:57] <CrazyDoode_> which is on 1.5.3 of this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDriver%2FBroadcom43xx#head-f63b172ef162fdab65dae57bbd33e6df20ca4114
[02:57] <Amaranth> intelikey: err, wow
[02:57] <rigonatti> hi all !
[02:57] <Amaranth> intelikey: how did that not happen? that runs on boot
[02:57] <rigonatti> can someone help me with a sound card =. ?
[02:57] <intelikey> not if the symlink is not in /etc/rcS.d it doesnt
[02:58] <robert_> I tried to download the Ubuntu ISO images, and all I got was a bunch of CD .iso images that didn't match the size reported by the iso information- wth
[02:58] <Amaranth> intelikey: Ah. You broke it, you get to keep both pieces. ;)
[02:58] <acetech> can someone point me in the direction to upgrade a new install of ubuntu 5.0 to ubuntu 6.0?
[02:58] <intelikey> amaranth   lol      ok going to test some more.
[02:58] <robert_> Nero complained to me, "OMG! The size doesn't match that of what's actually on the cd!"
[02:58] <nickrud> !upgrade
[02:58] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[02:58] <robert_> bbs
[02:58] <grndslm> anybody know if you can run VMware Server on Windows XP??
[02:58] <nickrud> acetech, just up
[02:58] <ne0h> i dont understand how to work this
[02:58] <robert_> food
[02:58] <ne0h> i cant get my wireless card to work
[02:59] <rigonatti> I have a SoundCard using front panel... in windows I just switch to "use Front Panel Mic" but in Linux .. just speaker works
[02:59] <kmilo> grndslm, yes
[02:59] <acetech> nickrud, thank you
[02:59] <grndslm> kmilo, so VMware Server and Player are both free, eh??  is it an easy setup?
[03:00] <nickrud> acetech, welcome to dapper :)
[03:00] <Amaranth> grndslm: in dapper the player is easy: sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[03:00] <eugman> eugene@ubuntu:~/Desktop/mayro$ ./configure
[03:00] <eugman> configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
[03:00] <Amaranth> eugman: that's a problem with mayro (or something you did to it)
[03:01] <nickrud> eugman, ask the mayro people
[03:01] <jughead> it says I do not have permisson
[03:01] <rigonatti> can someone help me with a sound card =. ?
[03:01] <eugman> Can you at least clarify on what the problem is exactly?
[03:01] <Amaranth> intelikey: get it baack in rcS.d?
[03:01] <jighead> !anyone
[03:01] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[03:01] <Amaranth> eugman: a file is missing...
[03:01] <intelikey> looks like everything working smoothly
[03:01] <Amaranth> eugman: or messed up
[03:01] <nickrud> eugman, either .config.sub is missing, or the call is bad
[03:01] <intelikey> Amaranth no rc2.d
[03:01] <rigonatti> I have a SoundCard using front panel... in windows I just switch to "use Front Panel Mic" but in Linux .. just speaker works
[03:01] <Amaranth> intelikey: whichever :)
[03:02] <Amaranth> rigonatti: only one guy really knows sound cards and i don't think he is here
[03:02] <nickrud> intelikey, it really should be S40networking in /etc/rc2.d
[03:02] <intelikey> well i now have a working system with no root access     well without booting to init=/bin/sh
[03:02] <nickrud> intelikey, erm, rcS.d
[03:02] <rigonatti> Amaranth  Who is ?
[03:02] <intelikey> nickrud not here.  :)
[03:03] <nickrud> intelikey, for a standard ubuntu install, yes.
[03:03] <jighead> rigonatti, right click on your speaker in your panel and open volume control
[03:03] <intelikey> the default.  yes.
[03:03] <nickrud> intelikey, other things expect that to be running at a particular time in the bootup, messing with it screws your system.
[03:03] <jmworx> Amaranth, nickrud The installer seems to suggest entering just the host name (without domain)
[03:03] <intelikey> other things are not ran either :)
[03:03] <Amaranth> intelikey: I have /etc/rcS.d/S40networking
[03:03] <jighead> rigonatti, then check your capture tap and see if your mics are picked up and the levels are up
[03:03] <nickrud> jmworx, yes, true.
[03:04] <nickrud> intelikey, you really like messing with shite, don't you :)
[03:04] <jmworx> Amaranth, nickrud: can't remember exactly what I did, but on two machines I installed, I ended up with localhost and <my host name without domain> as the hostname.
[03:04] <wastrel> today i'm using ubuntu
[03:04] <intelikey> nickrud i like 'not conforming'   yes
[03:04] <jughead> thank you for the help everyone - I have what I need now
[03:04] <nickrud> jmworx, yes, that's normal
[03:04] <Amaranth> intelikey: then you like no root access, apparently
[03:05] <jmworx> nickrud:  Result is postfix was misconfigured and I got blacklisted
[03:05] <Stormy> Ok, I installed Ubuntu ( 5.10 ) and it didn't ask me for a root password, I have booted the live cd but it won't let me su to root, or login ( like it auto set an invalid password ).  How do I get to an emergency shell with root access so I can reset the password on this thing ( also for bonus points i'm using lvm on top of raid and the live cd is seeing the map )
[03:05] <intelikey> Amaranth by no root access i mean no sudo no su no root passwd    'no root access'
[03:05] <nickrud> jmworx, no, you didn't set up postfix correctly then. Been there, done that :) I use exim4 now
[03:05] <acetech> does anyone know of a way to get fs2004 running?
[03:06] <Amaranth> intelikey: put S40networking where it belongs and see if that fixes it
[03:06] <Amaranth> fs2004?
[03:06] <rigonatti> jighead:  no changes...I mean...the Mobo jumper are to front panel. The speaker is ok ... mic dont respond. BTW ..in Windows...i need to go to mix volume and put "use Front Panel" ....
[03:06] <nf4> well i  was able to figure out how to uninstall gnome-screensaver and install xscreen-saver not hard at all
[03:06] <nf4> but the one in synaptic was outdated
[03:06] <intelikey> Amaranth fixes what ?   it's fixed
[03:06] <Stormy> rigonatti, install the alsa control panel see if that gives you your switches
[03:06] <nf4> so I had to manully install it
[03:06] <Amaranth> intelikey: you just said you still have no sudo
[03:06] <nf4> figure that out too
[03:06] <jighead> rigonatti, do you know what model card you have?
[03:06] <nf4> didnt even have to read any documentaion
[03:06] <nickrud> intelikey, having the lo come up at the right time, so sudo is recognized
[03:06] <jmworx> nickrud: I did an "apt-get install postfix" and answered whatever question I was asked.
[03:06] <nickrud> Amaranth, gonna speed up alacarte :)
[03:07] <nf4> electric sheep is running just fine
[03:07] <Amaranth> nickrud: done, it's for edgy though
[03:07] <nickrud> Amaranth, great. I just had to ask
[03:07] <intelikey> Amaranth i never had any sudo   here  the root fs is mounted nosuid    sudo is called in one init script to make it possable to dial in the network.... it's fixed.
[03:07] <jmworx> nickrud: Why can't this just work by default?
[03:07] <rigonatti> sure...its a Onboard in Asus P5P800 SE ... Driver for windows: SOundMax ....
[03:07] <Amaranth> nickrud: i'm working on a content filtering proxy using bayesian filtering :P
[03:07] <rigonatti> jighead: sure...its a Onboard in Asus P5P800 SE ... Driver for windows: SOundMax ....
[03:07] <nf4> although i think that the 5.10 respitorys ahve a newer version of electricsheep than the daper ones
[03:08] <Amaranth> nickrud: lots of big words to learn like 'Robinson-Fisher bayesian spam detection algorithm'
[03:08] <nickrud> Amaranth, ah, looking for that chinese google job? rflmao, I am nick rude
[03:08] <Amaranth> nf4: that's not really possible
[03:08] <vader_> Hello, changed my wifes monitor, how do I reconfigure X? I need to lower the res
[03:08] <Amaranth> nickrud: edubuntu SoC project
[03:08] <vader_> out of range
[03:08] <nf4> whats not possible
[03:08] <Pirate> Can someone tell me how to tell Ubuntu about my new monitor, so it'll change xorg.conf?
[03:08] <nf4> ?
[03:08] <Amaranth> vader_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:08] <vader_> ty Amaranth
[03:08] <Amaranth> Pirate: same as vader_
[03:08] <nickrud> Amaranth, I'll probably use your work in my homeless shelters, so code away :)
[03:08] <Amaranth> nickrud: hehe
[03:09] <Amaranth> nf4: dapper having an older version of something
[03:09] <Amaranth> (than breezy)
[03:09] <Pirate> Thanks, Amaranth.
[03:09] <jighead> rigonatti, what does it say after Multimedia audio controller when you do lspci?
[03:09] <nf4> dapper has a xscreensaver from 2004
[03:09] <Pirate> I assume there's no way to do it through the GUI, right?  I'm using Gnome.
[03:09] <jmworx> nickrud: should I fine a bug report on that?
[03:09] <PetrolBomb> how to get arkrpg started?
[03:09] <nf4> in the respitorys
[03:09] <PetrolBomb> Bueller?
[03:09] <nickrud> jmworx, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix, it was a good page when first put up
[03:10] <nf4> useing synaptic
[03:10] <wastrel> what's electricsheep?
[03:10] <intelikey> i think i'll add an ssh server to this configuration   then rather than try to explain it i can just let you login and see...     hmmmm or can sshd work correctly on a nosuid system ?
[03:10] <Amaranth> !info xscreensaver dapper
[03:10] <ubotu> xscreensaver: (Automatic screensaver for X), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.23-4ubuntu8 (dapper), Packaged size: 270 kB, Installed size: 2228 kB
[03:10] <nf4> its a  preaty tight screensaver
[03:10] <Amaranth> !info xscreensaver breezy
[03:10] <ekp> hi
[03:10] <ubotu> xscreensaver: (Automatic screensaver for X), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.21-4ubuntu17 (breezy), Packaged size: 284 kB, Installed size: 2240 kB
[03:10] <vader_> Amaranth, says not installed
[03:10] <wastrel> hi ekp
[03:10] <Amaranth> nf4: newer in dapper
[03:10] <ekp> is there a clipboard applet for Gnome
[03:11] <Amaranth> vader_: maybe you typed it wrong?
[03:11] <Amaranth> vader_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:11] <nf4> i just used synaptic
[03:11] <jmworx> nickrud: It's now configured right (I think). What sucks is that I expect everyone who just wants a local MTA (like me) will get it wrong.
[03:11] <vader_> that us what is on the screen Amaranth
[03:11] <jmworx> (i.e. I thought Ubuntu was about getting things right by default)
[03:11] <Amaranth> vader_: what is the error?
[03:11] <nickrud> jmworx, that is a very true statement. That's why I use exim4, because it's better for simple installs
[03:11] <vader_> brb Amaranth may have it
[03:12] <nf4> i now have version 2.24 oct 2005
[03:12] <nf4> i guess it is old in both daper and breezy
[03:12] <rigonatti> jighead
[03:12] <rigonatti> txs !! i got it :D
[03:12] <Amaranth> jmworx: sure but if you're setting up a mail server you should know a bit about what hostname to use and etc
[03:12] <ekp> wastrel>: do you know of a clipboard applet for Gnome  .........ala Klipper?
[03:12] <Amaranth> ekp: not needed
[03:12] <cartel_> hi all
[03:12] <nickrud> jmworx, it is, and did you notice: you had to install postfix by hand, and ubuntu has tried to do everything possible so a normal install doesn't need a mail transport agent.
[03:12] <wastrel> nope
[03:13] <Amaranth> ekp: iirc when you copy from a text editor then close it you can still paste
[03:13] <Amaranth> ekp: but it only works for text, i think
[03:13] <jmworx> nickrud: How do I send mail then. It's not like I really want an MTA
[03:13] <jmg> hey guys i dont have any icons in openoffice
 I like to look at history and choose which to paste
[03:13] <vader_> Amaranth, I was in recovery mode would that matter?
[03:13] <Amaranth> vader_: i don't think so
[03:14] <nf4> how can i tell if i am logged in to freenode correctly
[03:14] <vader_> hmmmmmmmmm
[03:14] <Amaranth> ekp: hmm
[03:14] <nf4> i can /msg one of you guys to test it
[03:14] <nickrud> jmworx, you could simply let evolution do your transporting. That's the general intent of ubuntu (I put in exim4 because I'm perverse, really)
[03:14] <jmworx> Amaranth: I'm trying to send email and I don't have an external server I can use. I didn't see any obvious other options.
  seems like a bit of an oversight on the part of Gnome
[03:14] <jmg> when i switch to the openoffice window all the icons in the toolbars dissapear
[03:14] <Amaranth> ekp: most people probably don't use it
[03:15] <jmworx> nickrud: how? Last time I tried it did work. Plus wouldn't evolution do the same (wrong) thing with the hostname?
[03:15] <jmg> is this a known bug
[03:15] <Amaranth> jmworx: you're a corner case
[03:15] <Henry_Bean_> hello, i have downloaded a DVD from bt, it doesn't come in an ISO file, it was a VIDEO_TS folder, i drop it in nautilus and burn it, but after that i cannot play it in my pc (yes in my regular dvd player)... this is the error... http://debian-es.pastebin.com/705623 ... please anybody could take a look?
[03:15] <Amaranth> jmworx: most people have ISP's with working SMTP servers
[03:15] <nickrud> jmworx, see Amaranth just above
[03:15] <vader_> Amaranth, it is aly F2 to log in through text right?
[03:15] <nickrud> jmworx, that's me, so my mailserver simply is a tool of my isp
[03:15] <jmg> i am running 2.0.2-2ubuntu1
[03:15] <jmg> which i presume is latest
[03:16] <Amaranth> Henry_Bean_: Sorry, we don't help with illegal activities.
[03:16] <vader_> alt
[03:16] <ekp> I do a lot of copy and paste ..........but I can live with out it if I have to
[03:16] <Henry_Bean_> Amaranth: how do u know that this is illegal?
[03:16] <Amaranth> ekp: klipper doesn't work with gnome?
[03:16] <Amaranth> Henry_Bean_: you downloaded a movie from bittorrent that was in an odd format
[03:16] <wastrel> there's a cool windowmaker dock app i used to use that does clipboard management
[03:16] <ekp> It probably does but I do not want to install a lot of KDE
[03:16] <wastrel> and there's a gnome applet that swallows dockapps iirc
[03:16] <jmg> hello?
[03:17] <jmworx> Amaranth: Still why would the Ubuntu installer make it so easy to screw up the hostname? I mean if it's going to do something stupid anyway, why prompt me for a hostname?
[03:17] <jighead> ekp, if you search the repos, there is an xclipboard, have you tried that?
[03:17] <Amaranth> jmworx: file a bug, i don't want to argue about it
[03:17] <wastrel> i don't know how klipper works tho
[03:17] <ekp> Yeah I have it installed but have not been able to invoke it yet
[03:17] <nickrud> wastrel, do you remember the name? there's some wmaker docapps that seem tasteful
[03:17] <Amaranth> jmg: do you have an ati video card?
[03:18] <ekp> also miss run command  line in menu on Gnome
[03:18] <Amaranth> ekp: alt-f2
[03:18] <ekp> Oh cool
[03:18] <jmworx> Amaranth: What's the package name for that?
[03:18] <Amaranth> jmworx: debian-installer
[03:18] <Henry_Bean_> Amaranth: u r saying that download a dvd from bt it's illegal? what if it was my own project shared using a private tracker for me and my partners?
[03:18] <jmworx> thanks
[03:18] <jighead> ekp, FYI http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-devel-list/2004-March/msg00046.html
[03:19] <Amaranth> Henry_Bean_: Even if it wasn't I don't know how to fix it.
[03:19] <nickrud> jmworx, the host name is not the domain. There's nothing wrong with the installer. Configure postfix properly
[03:19] <jmg> Amaranth: nvidia
[03:19] <Amaranth> jmg: I dunno then, sorry.
[03:19] <wastrel> nickrud:  i think it's actually gnome-swallow-applet - swallows any application
[03:19] <Henry_Bean_> Amaranth: ok, so, thanks, that's another issue
[03:19] <nickrud> wastrel, ah, I've tried that before. maybe it's better now
[03:20] <jmg> grr
[03:20] <Sivik> !sticky
[03:20] <ubotu> Sivik: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:20] <jmg> the icons appear and then dissapear
[03:20] <nickrud> Sivik, sticky what?
[03:21] <ekp> jighead>; thnks for the information
[03:22] <jmg> there are lots of assertion failed stuff in gdkpixbuf
[03:22] <nickrud> jmworx, having said that, postfix configuration is not trivial. The web page I gave you earlier was pretty good.
[03:22] <syllogism> I'm trying to cross-compile gettext, but I keep getting an unresolved symbol to _mbrtowc. . . does anyone know what I would have to link to to resolve that?
[03:22] <ne0h> i still cant get my internet to work with ubuntu
[03:23] <nickrud> ne0h, what type of internet, I run from wireless
[03:23] <vader_> grrrrrrrrrr it keeps sayig xserver is not installed
[03:23] <Stormy> is there a way to get ubuntu to boot into a single user mode that doesn't require a password so i can reset the root password?
[03:23] <ne0h> wireless
[03:23] <ne0h> im using broadcom wireless card
[03:23] <jmworx> nickrud: what do I really need to change except for the "from" field that has my hostname? Considering that it's only for local use, behind a firewall/NAT
[03:24] <ne0h> everything people show me dosent help
[03:24] <nickrud> Stormy, boot into recovery mode. If you have not set a root password, you're in
[03:24] <Stormy> nickrud, elaborate please
[03:24] <Sivik> can i save a text doc on knotes
[03:24] <Stormy> nickrud, i've tried booting the livecd
[03:24] <Stormy> ne0h, what's your problem with broadcom wireless, i have it working and i'm using it now
[03:24] <Sivik> nickrud, like sticky notes but for linux, but i found one, except i can't figure out how to save
[03:24] <Stormy> nickrud, is there a switch i can pass on the lilo lines?
[03:25] <jmworx> nickrud: Plus where am I supposed to enter the domain name anyway?
[03:25] <nickrud> Stormx2, ah, grub. And, have you set a root password already?
[03:25] <nf4> is there a torrent program that wont run silently in the background?
[03:25] <Stormy> nickrud, no i didn't, and the install didn't ask me
[03:25] <BlueLagun1> what's the cli command to set the time?
[03:25] <Stormy> nickrud, and i'm lilo for the minute
[03:25] <nickrud> jmworx, I use exim simply because I don't have to think. Try it.
[03:25] <Stormy> BlueLagun1, ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov
[03:25] <nf4> bittorrent seems to run something called "torrent tracker" but i can only see it when i restart or shut down my pc
[03:25] <jmworx> nickrud: How do you install/configure it?
[03:25] <jmg> guys i am having some trouble with ooo, similar to this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org2-amd64/+bug/12611 but on i386 and not resolved by reinstall..
[03:26] <ne0h> my problem is its not working
[03:26] <nickrud> Stormy, with lilo I'm not sure anymore. I used to be conversant with lilo, but after 2 years of grub, I don't remember.
[03:26] <ne0h> I have no idea how to fix it where it works
[03:26] <Stormy> nickrud, yea i'm the same story
[03:27] <wastrel> wmcliphist -s 16  works real good with that gnome-swallow-applet thing
[03:27] <Stormy> nickrud, you know what switch i'm supposed to pass on the line?
[03:27] <ne0h> Stormy, can you hlep me?
[03:27] <wastrel> <3 wmcliphist
[03:27] <jighead> Stormy, try single
[03:27] <Stormy> ne0h, probally if you give me a minute
[03:27] <kvasov> anybody have success getting glx to work on 6.06 ?
[03:27] <ne0h> ok
[03:27] <wastrel> i'm running out of room on my gnome panel though.
[03:27] <Stormy> how do i get lilo to bring up it's menu
[03:27] <Stormy> i forget
[03:27] <nickrud> jmworx, all I had to do with exim was add my username/password to a file under /exim4,
[03:27] <ceruleantiger> what happened to the 'normal' dapper install CDs? is there only liveCD and server installs now?
[03:27] <intelikey> [esc] 
[03:28] <Stormy> ne0h, hit me up with a pm
[03:28] <wastrel> jmworx:  you're going to get spambinned a lot unless you have a proper forward & reverse on your that you're sending mail from
[03:28] <ceruleantiger> for the record, I'm asking because install via liveCD does not work for me... and just what is the 'alternative install' CD?
[03:28] <wastrel> and they match
[03:28] <Carwreck> will the ubuntu live cd automatically detect my atheros based pcmcia card?
[03:28] <nickrud> jmworx, but again, I was using an isp for sending mail, and fetchmail for getting. I now use fetchmail for getting into my imap, but use evo for sending mail thru my isp
[03:28] <vader_> okay I have to go into the system through failsafe, it is saying that xserver-org is no installed
[03:28] <jmg> arrgh :(
[03:28] <wastrel> yeh i'm doing the same, relaying thru isp
[03:28] <jmg> i need to apply for some jobs today :(
[03:28] <jighead> ceruleantiger, alt cd will do text install, oem install, lvm setup, and some other stuff
[03:28] <nickrud> jmworx, read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix page
[03:29] <intelikey> does xterm not support tabs ?
[03:29] <Amaranth> ceruleantiger: you want the alternative cd
[03:29] <jmworx> nickrud: I thought you recommended not to use exim?
[03:29] <ceruleantiger> jighead Amaranth ok, thanks guys
[03:29] <Stormy> screw exim
[03:29] <jmworx> nickrud: I thought you recommended not to use postfix I mean?
[03:29] <Stormy> use postfix
[03:29] <nickrud> jmworx, opposite actually
[03:29] <jmg> NO bugs in openoffice.org?!
[03:29] <Amaranth> intelikey: i don't think it does
[03:30] <Stormy> exim really sucks ass for someone that doesn't have the docs handy and knows it
[03:30] <intelikey> Amaranth k
[03:30] <Amaranth> Storm: Language.
[03:30] <nickrud> jmworx, I don't care which it is, just read the docs.
[03:30] <wastrel> debian used to use exim as the default
[03:30] <jmg> guys i am having some trouble with ooo, similar to this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org2-amd64/+bug/12611 but on i386 and not resolved by reinstall..
[03:30] <Stormy> ass isn't that rough
[03:30] <wastrel> they had a good default config too, easy to modify
[03:30] <nickrud> which is how I started with exim, it is so darned easy
[03:30] <jmg> running the latest build in dapper...
[03:30] <vader_> Amaranth, I have the list in front of me for what is there as per X and xserver-org is not there? help possible?
[03:31] <wastrel> i once got so frustrated trying to configure exim that i installed sendmail and used that instead heh
[03:31] <fiveiron> when you mount an ssh drive, what directory is it mounted to?
[03:31] <Amaranth> vader_: if that command didn't work i'm not sure what the problem is
[03:31] <Joe_scorp> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 <- cant get this package, can someone help?
[03:31] <jmworx> nickrud: What I want for postfix is "Local only" right?
[03:32] <jmg> how do i burn an iso image from gnome?
[03:32] <wastrel> jmg:  i think nautilus will do that
[03:32] <nickrud> Joe_scorp, that's not the package to get, ibstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is
[03:32] <ceruleantiger> k3b is good for image burning... not sure if that's in the standard gnome install...
[03:32] <Joe_scorp> i need the older version
[03:32] <jighead> jmg righ click on the iso file and Write to disc
[03:33] <Joe_scorp> cuase its for running an outdated .elf for an old game
[03:33] <nickrud> Joe_scorp, if you got that package, and the program stll does not run, try this:
[03:33] <schloob> just out of curiosity, is it possible to have a dual monitor setup with both monitors at different resolutions?
[03:33] <nickrud> cd /usr/lib && sudo ln -s libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so
[03:33] <otromas> alguien que hable espa?ol?
[03:33] <VoX> schloob: yes
[03:34] <otromas> ja ja : - )
[03:34] <kevin1> !Birdie Shakira Ft. Wyclef Jean - Hips Don't Lie.mp3
[03:34] <ubotu> kevin1: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:34] <schloob> VoX: okay, thanks :] 
[03:34] <otromas> gracias por contestar me siento extra?o en este mundo ...
[03:35] <intelikey> Amaranth that would require a reboot to init=/bin/sh  .....
[03:35] <newuserAK> i have a zonet wifi card with a marvell chipset, which is supported by ubuntu.  however, when i plug in the card, it says "mrv8k: probe of 0000:07:00.0 failed with error -2."  Any suggestions?
[03:35] <nickrud> Joe_scorp, erm, typo on the package to get: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2  <-- i missed the leading l
[03:35] <intelikey> Amaranth thanks to the test anyway.
[03:35] <newuserAK> it seems to have the driver but fail the pcmcia connection
[03:35] <Amaranth> intelikey: Did you put networking back where it's supposed to be?
[03:35] <Joe_scorp> ahh that mite be why it didnt work;)
[03:35] <Stormy> ne0h you come back yet?
[03:36] <intelikey> Amaranth no  lol  and i'm not going to....  hehhe
[03:36] <Amaranth> intelikey: good luck then
[03:36] <uXp> what should i use to unrar files?
[03:36] <Guest298> Hi, does anyone knows where are Synaptic History file(s) ? Is it in var/log ?
[03:36] <stevekl> uXp: apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[03:36] <intelikey> Amaranth it works locally
[03:36] <stevekl> uXp: don't install regular unrar, it doesn't work with alot of things
[03:36] <Amaranth> uXp: if you install the 'unrar' package you can use file-roller (Archive Manager)
[03:37] <Paladine> anyone available to help me out with some dual boot issues?
[03:37] <stevekl> Paladine: I might be abl eto help
[03:37] <Amaranth> stevekl: In dapper unrar is unrar-nonfree
[03:37] <Amaranth> !info unrar dapper
[03:37] <ubotu> unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[03:37] <Paladine> heya stevekl thanks
[03:37] <Paladine> I just installed ubu from livecd
[03:37] <Paladine> but I can't boot to it
[03:37] <stevekl> Amaranth: oh ok
[03:37] <Paladine> it is on the same drive as windows xp (on itown partition)
[03:38] <stevekl> Paladine: Well what do you mean can't boot? Can you get grub?
[03:38] <stevekl> Paladine: If you've installed windows after you installed ubuntu, it will erase grub
[03:38] <Paladine> I am not getting grub on boot no
[03:38] <intelikey> Amaranth i'll change the pass and see.  back in two reboots....  lol
[03:38] <Paladine> nope I have installed ubu after windows
[03:38] <stevekl> Paladine: It's just going straight to windows?
[03:38] <Paladine> yup booting straight windows
[03:38] <stevekl> Oh god I just drank flat soda
[03:38] <VolVE> hey all, so what's the best console-based bittorrent client right now?
[03:38] <stevekl> Paladine: Uhhh hm...
[03:38] <schloob> stevekl: i'm sorry you had to go through with that
[03:38] <stevekl> schloob: with wta
[03:38] <Paladine> if I go back into live cd I can see the partition with 4.41GB used space on it
[03:39] <Joe_scorp> root@joe-room:~# apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[03:39] <Joe_scorp> Reading package lists... Done
[03:39] <Joe_scorp> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:39] <Joe_scorp> E: Couldn't find package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[03:39] <Paladine> so it is installed
[03:39] <Paladine> just not booting
[03:39] <stevekl> Paladine: If grub isn't coming up then it never got onto the master boot record. WHy, I don't know heh
[03:39] <schloob> stevekl: and wta would be what? :x
[03:39] <stevekl> schloob: what did i have to go through?
[03:40] <Paladine> any idea how to fix it without requiring a reinstallation?
[03:40] <Stormy> schweet
[03:40] <Stormy> for everyone that has issues with lilo
[03:40] <stevekl> Paladine: I know the liveCD can reinstall grub, but i'm not sure how
[03:40] <Stormy> hold the shift key on boot
[03:40] <nickrud> Joe_scorp, it's in the universe repository, see !components below about what repos are, and !repos for how to enable
[03:40] <jighead> Paladine, you need to install grub, boot the livecd and grub-install (hd0), assuming your installs on on your first ide drive
[03:40] <nickrud> !components
[03:40] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[03:40] <nickrud> !repos
[03:40] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[03:40] <Paladine> it is sata
[03:40] <Guest298> Is there any way to get old packages on apt or Synaptic ? I would like to downgrade an application using Synaptic if possible. I do not have the old packages.
[03:40] <Paladine> I have ubu on sdb5
[03:40] <intelikey> changed the password to 'none'    it seemed to be something else....
[03:41] <jighead> Paladine, sdb assumes more than one disk, what is on sda?
[03:41] <Stormy> intelikey what's the matter?
[03:41] <wastrel> Guest298:  i think you can do that with apt pinning
[03:41] <Paladine> sda is just media files
[03:41] <nickrud> intelikey, I've enjoyed you a lot, learned things from you also. But, messing with something at that level is not very level headed.
[03:41] <Stormy> Paladine, you should swap those drives then
[03:42] <Guest298> wastrel: Ohhh ok, I'll check for it
[03:42] <schloob> stevekl: nevermind ;x
[03:42] <wastrel> what's intelikey doing?
[03:42] <sivanicon> what is the option for rmdir to delete a directory with files in it?
[03:42] <nickrud> messing with networking, seriously messing
[03:42] <Stormy> sivanicon, rm -rf
[03:42] <sivanicon> thanks
[03:42] <Stormy> np
[03:42] <jighead> Paladine, grub should be installed on the mbr of the first drive in your boot sequence
[03:42] <sivanicon> man pages dont say
[03:42] <Stormy> sivanicon, just remember your man pages
[03:42] <Stormy> yea they do
[03:43] <Stormy> your looking for rm
[03:43] <intelikey> nickrud hehhe level heads are not very arrowdynamic  tho  :)
[03:43] <nickrud> like removing S40networking from rcS.d
[03:43] <jighead> Paladine, if your bios has sda first, then grub-install (hd0) should get you booting
[03:43] <uXp> when i click on the file and drag it out from a rar archive its not showing up...help?
[03:43] <uXp> on my desktop*
[03:43] <Paladine> I will jump into bios and change the boot options see if that fixes it
[03:43] <sivanicon> stormy, so dont use rmdir use rm -rf ?
[03:43] <Stormy> yea
[03:43] <Paladine> thanks for the help guys/gals?
[03:43] <Stormy> rmdir i bet is just an alias for rm
[03:44] <nickrud> Stormy, not
[03:44] <jtrnp> Can anyone here help me with a small network problem I have with my Ubuntu server?
[03:44] <judah> small as in?
[03:44] <daharon> hey guys, I'm looking for enemy territory in Synaptic, but can't seem to find it.  Is it just not there? do I just have to install it manually?
[03:45] <jtrnp> as in my server works fine for all internal network communications, but I cannot seem to even ping it from the outside.
[03:45] <wastrel> what's enemy territory?
[03:45] <Stormy> castle wolfenstein
[03:45] <narg__> I have a box running breezy, and I want C++ bindings for mysql; what package should I use (there are like 30 mysql packages)
[03:45] <nickrud> daharon, manually, it's license forbids redistribution from what I hear
[03:45] <wastrel> is it free software?
[03:45] <Stormy> kinda
[03:45] <Guest298> Is there any way to restore the system to a previous state by undoing installed/updated/deleted packages in Synaptic ? Any script for it ?
[03:45] <Stormy> think of quake 3
[03:45] <daharon> nickrud:  well, its in Gentoo's portage, so I figured it would be in apt.
[03:45] <nickrud> Guest298, not really
[03:45] <jighead> jtrnp, what is "outside" and what is "inside"
[03:46] <nickrud> daharon, this is dfsg territory
[03:46] <nickrud> well, so far :)
[03:46] <Guest298> nickrud: Do you know where the Synaptic keeps its history ?
[03:46] <daharon> nickrud:  dfsg?
[03:46] <narg> debian free software guidelines
[03:46] <daharon> ah
[03:47] <daharon> ok, so they are more strict...
[03:47] <narg> they are pretty tight, yea
[03:47] <nickrud> Guest298, no i don't, sorry.
[03:47] <Guest298> nickrud: ok
[03:47] <daharon> well, what about this multiverse, etc, repositories?  is that where you would find non GPL software?
[03:47] <Guest298> Anyone know where Synaptic keeps its history ?
[03:47] <nickrud> daharon, http://www.debian.org/social_contract
[03:48] <nickrud> !tell daharon about components
[03:48] <nickrud> daharon, you should have a link in a pm
[03:48] <jtrnp> All computer in my private internal network can access my server:  including its ftp server, ssh server, http server, dhcp server, etc.  All my computers also access the internet through it using some iptables rules.  However, I cannot seem to access my computer from anywhere else: i.e. another computer at a friends house.
[03:48] <jighead> Guest298, /var/cache/apt/archives is where packages get dowloaded, is that what you want?
[03:48] <jtrnp> I cannot even ping the server.
[03:48] <jtrnp> from outside the internal network
[03:48] <daharon> nickrud, thanks
[03:48] <jighead> jtrnp, do you have a firewall, are you doing any sort of NAT or portforwarding?
[03:49] <lukaswayne9> How can I upgrade a Breezy machine to Dapper without an internet connection?
[03:49] <jtrnp> I am running aome NAT rules, yes.  I can tell you if you would like to know what they are.
[03:49] <nickrud> daharon, things in multiverse don't have to abide by the guidelines, but even there there are limits
[03:49] <Healot> lukaswayne9: with Dapper CD
[03:49] <daharon> nickrud: like it still has to be open source?
[03:49] <Guest298> jighead: No, in Synaptic, you can have the history of what was made in the past (installed/updated/deleted packages). I know to know in which file it is stored... it should be one file only, but it could be one for each set of task also
[03:49] <jighead> jtrnp, are any of your other computer accessible from outside your local net?
[03:49] <lukaswayne9> Healot: yes, I've burned the alternate CD, but what then do I do?
[03:50] <nickrud> daharon, no, just freely redistributable. For example, sun just changed their license, so it's now in multiverse.
[03:50] <jtrnp> No, all computers have internal IP addresses, and are not accessable from outside the local net
[03:50] <jtrnp> all computers other than my ubuntu server, that is
[03:50] <nickrud> daharon, erm, sun's java I mean
[03:50] <daharon> nickrud: right, ok
[03:51] <jighead> jtrnp, how are you giving the ubunut server a public IP?
[03:51] <daharon> nickrud: that makes some sense, since even in Portage, it still downloads from a non-gentoo server.  unlike other packages
[03:51] <wastrel> watch the gateway's firewall logs, do you see the ping packets coming in?
[03:51] <bimberi> Guest298: afaik synaptic doesn't keep logs, dpkg (which is used by synaptic) does though - /var/log/dpkg.log
[03:51] <nickrud> daharon, similar to the msttcorefonts, yes
[03:51] <jtrnp> It is connected through a dial-up ppp connection - connected through wvdial (in a rural area, no hi-speed available)
[03:51] <wastrel> <3 wvidal
[03:52] <wastrel> s/id/di/
[03:52] <AshDragon> I have a Airnet AWN154/AWD154 wireless networking card. How do I get Breezy to detect this? I am kinda new to Linux, have used Debian Woody and Sarge a little bit and now I am on to Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy... (i don't think that it is even being detected as being in there)
[03:52] <distanceisdeath> hello, i have a computer (windows) and there is no driver for the dial up connection. anyway would solving ubuntu fix this?
[03:52] <jtrnp> any ideas?
[03:52] <Guest298> bimberi : Ok, thank you :)
[03:52] <nameless14> I need some help I just put two extra harddrives in my server (text only) now when i try to boot the computer it says /bish/sh cant access tty job control turned off. bbut before that it says things like /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed no such file or directory. Does anyone know how to fix this
[03:52] <eigenlambda> distanceisdeath:  does it have a real modem or a winmodem?
[03:52] <jtrnp> real, external, serial modem
[03:52] <bimberi> Guest298: np :)
[03:52] <jighead> jtrnp, so is the ubuntu box acting as a gateway for the rest of your net?
[03:52] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, explain your problem a little more
[03:52] <distanceisdeath> eigenlambda, not sure. whatever is stock on a dell
[03:52] <jtrnp> jighead: yes it is a gateway
[03:53] <Healot> note: USB modems are not real modems :)
[03:53] <jtrnp> all of my other computers can access it and use the internet fine
[03:53] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, look into ndiswrappers
[03:53] <jmg> usr modems are :)
[03:53] <jtrnp> Just i am unable to ping the server from outside of the local net
[03:53] <Healot> nah
[03:53] <wastrel> jtrnp:  is your dialup provider is giving you a static IP?
[03:53] <jighead> jtrnp, ok, how are you trying to ping it then, do you have dynamic dns setup?
[03:53] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, i reformatted my computer and i lost my driver for the PCI card to use the dial up modem.  I want to install linux on and it, and im wondering if it will work.
[03:53] <jtrnp> no, it is a dynamic ip - i use a dyndns service
[03:53] <jtrnp> i am pinging it using the ip address
[03:54] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, look into ndiswrappers
[03:54] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, I cannot download the driver.
[03:54] <jtrnp> i have a second line - my internet has been connected for the past 16 days
[03:54] <jtrnp> same ip address
[03:54] <Stormy> what card is it?
[03:54] <Stormy> do you know the name
[03:54] <Guest298> Anyone was able to install Ubuntu 6.06 on an external USB disk using the graphic install ?
[03:54] <Stormy> or the fcc id of it?
[03:54] <Stormy> have you put a live cd in the machine
[03:54] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, no i do not.
[03:54] <Stormy> and pulled a lspci?
[03:54] <Stormy> put a cd in
[03:54] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, slow
[03:54] <pppoe_dude> ok if i install (accidentally) packages from the breezy repos on a dapper installation, then switch my repos to dapper, do an apt-get update then apt-get upgrade is that bad?
[03:54] <distanceisdeath> Okay one sec.
[03:54] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, put a livecd in it and run lspci
[03:54] <jighead> jtrnp, have you tried pinging the host name that dyndns gave you?
[03:55] <nameless14> I need some help I just put two extra harddrives in my server (text only) now when i try to boot the computer it says /bish/sh cant access tty job control turned off. bbut before that it says things like /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed no such file or directory. Does anyone know how to fix this
[03:55] <jtrnp> yes, i run an auto-update script that sends my ip address to dyndns every time it is renewed.  dyndns redirects the domain name to my ipaddress fine, but it still will not connect
[03:56] <Dow> hello, could anybody told me how to exit icewm?
[03:56] <jtrnp> i can not ping my server through either the dyndns host name or the ip address
[03:56] <bimberi> pppoe_dude: probably not, in fact it's likely to rectify the situation
[03:56] <Stormy> nameless14, check your order
[03:56] <lightstar> Dow, alt+ctrl+backspace
[03:56] <nameless14> Stormy, my order of what
[03:56] <Stormy> your drives/ide cables
[03:57] <wastrel> jtrnp:  do you have any other services listening at the server's IP addy?  like could you try to telnet in to smtp or ftp or something- maybe your dialup provider is blocking ping.
[03:57] <stevekl> Can someone point me to a page about making ubuntu fonts look really good?
[03:57] <jtrnp> so, any ideas?
[03:57] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, whats the command?
[03:57] <Stormy> distanceisdeath,  lspci
[03:57] <nameless14> Stormy, ahhh you are right I changed one plug around due to space restrictions thanks
[03:57] <lightstar> jtrnp, did you block incoming ping to your machine?
[03:57] <Stormy> nameless14, np
[03:57] !lilo:*! New channel reminder: ##posix-devel has been set up "...covering the range of development tools (compilers, assemblers, linkers, source code managers, debuggers, development applications, etc.) for Posix-compatible and Posix-like operating systems...." if you'd like to help out, please stop by, idle, compare notes. Thanks!
[03:57] <jighead> jtrnp, do your other services fail, like ssh, http?
[03:58] <jtrnp> I run ssh, ftp, and apache.  I cannot access any of these services from outside my local net.
[03:58] <jtrnp> However, if i use my external ip address from the internal net, it works
[03:58] <pppoe_dude> bimberi, cool, there doesnt seem to be any broken packages
[03:58] <sangaya> where do usb drives get mounted?
[03:58] <jtrnp> the internal ip addrss from inside my internal net also works
[03:58] <AshDragon> I have a Airnet AWN154/AWD154 wireless networking card. How do I get Breezy to detect this? I am kinda new to Linux, have used Debian Woody and Sarge a little bit and now I am on to Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy... (i don't think that it is even being detected as being in there)
[03:58] <lerkan> hi i have Xgl on my computer and i would like to know how to change the widow  border theme
[03:58] <Stormy> sangaya, type mount and dmesg, that should give you everything
[03:58] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, what livecd do i pit in? ubuntu right?
[03:58] <pppoe_dude> bimberi, but xlib6g was missing from the dapper packages, and by fuke i got it from the breezy sources
[03:58] <lightstar> jtrnp, did you do forwarding to those ports?
[03:59] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, shouldn't matter, any live cd should do
[03:59] <pppoe_dude> i think it can conflict with things...
[03:59] <sangaya> Stormy, thanks
[03:59] <Stormy> sangaya, np
[03:59] <lerkan> hi i have Xgl on my computer and i would like to know how to change the widow  border theme
[03:59] <pppoe_dude> hopefully not
[03:59] <jtrnp> lightstar:  Sorry, but i'm not entirely sure what you mean?
[03:59] <Dow> lightstar, but i do this, it back to wm , i wanna back to shell mode
[03:59] <lerkan> hi i have Xgl on my computer and i would like to know how to change the widow  border theme
[03:59] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, Im at the ubuntu installation screen and lspci doesnt work... "could no find kernal inmage"
[03:59] <lightstar> Dow, if you want console then press alt+ctrl+1
[03:59] <tristanmike> !tell lerkan about patience
[03:59] <lerkan> ok
[03:59] <jtrnp> If you are interested, I can send some a txt file with my iptables rules - i'm not sure if its related or not?
[04:00] <JohnsonE> anyone around now thing they can help me with my pesky vmware installation?
[04:00] <jighead> jtrnp, pastebin them, i'll look
[04:00] <JohnsonE> think*
[04:00] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, you got a gentoo livecd?
[04:00] <tristanmike> lerkan: you may also want to ask in #ubuntu-xgl, but even more patience is required there ;)
[04:00] <distanceisdeath> No, i have crux
[04:00] <jtrnp> jighead:  I'm new to IRC, how do I do that?
[04:00] <Dow> lightstar, but alt+ctrl+1 seem not work
[04:00] <nickrud> xgl should just die a natural death
[04:00] <jighead> !tell jtrnp about pastebin
[04:00] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, i dont know if these are livecds, they are the iso image
[04:00] <tristanmike> nickrud: don't be mean
[04:01] <oni-dracula> does anyone here use Wine to play World of Warcraft (as opposed to Cedega)?
[04:01] <Toma-> iirc, aiglx is better
[04:01] <lightstar> Dow, oops..sorry..its alt+ctrl+F1..left out the F
[04:01] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, find yourself a livecd
[04:01] <lightstar> Dow, you will get a console login
[04:01] <kwtm> How do I get rid of Katapult?  It keeps intercepting my favourite key combo, Alt-Space.
[04:01] <nickrud> tristanmike, I'm so tired of hearing of help requested on barely beta software
[04:01] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, I cant burn any dvds
[04:01] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, got a pen drive?
[04:01] <tristanmike> nickrud: that's true, I was just joking anyway :P
[04:02] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, whats that.  I do have a windows xp disc.
[04:02] <nickrud> tristanmike, :)
[04:02] <gs> hi
[04:02] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, usb pen drive, flash drive, etc,etc,etc Windows XP is useless, you need to get to a linux shell in some sort of running enviroment, either by floppy or by cd
[04:02] <Stormy> or flash
[04:02] <Stormy> or tape for that matter
[04:02] <gs> someone can send me initramfs-tools-0.40ubuntu32.deb package?
[04:03] <gs> or where i can download?
[04:03] <gs> ir
[04:03] <gs> it
[04:03] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, I do not have a pen drive or floppy
[04:03] <Stormy> sounds like your hopeless
[04:03] <wastrel> zipslack
[04:03] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, what was the point of all this?
[04:03] <Stormy> that might work
[04:03] <Healot> gs, find+download the package at packages.ubuntu.com
[04:03] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, you want to know if your modem would work in linux
[04:03] <Stormy> lspci will tell me what your modem is
[04:03] <JohnsonE> so guys, where might some remnants of VMware-player be hiding on my system? I tried all the uninstalls but the server still says there's a previous version.
[04:03] <Stormy> from that i can tell you what will work and won't
[04:04] <Dow> lightstar, thanks a loooooooooooooooooootttttttttttttttttttttttt
[04:04] <nickrud> gs, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fi%2Finitramfs-tools%2Finitramfs-tools_0.40ubuntu32_all.deb&md5sum=738e2216fba709b01c2c3b7509ba20f6&arch=all&type=main
[04:04] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, it should work, its the stock modem.
[04:04] <lightstar> Dow, np:)
[04:04] <Dow> lightstar, i am green hand on ubunto
[04:04] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, that doesn't mean shit
[04:04] <stevekl> Can someone point me to a guide about making ubuntu fonts look really good?
[04:04] <gs> nickrud, thank you
[04:04] <lightstar> Dow, takes a lil getting used to..but it helps tat its pretty user friendly:)
[04:04] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, is there a way to find it in the windows OS
[04:04] <pianoboy3333> Can someone help me with a hard drive issue here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194632 ?
[04:04] <Stormy> if there is i don't know it
[04:05] <Stormy> i quit using windows 8 years ago
[04:05] <AshDragon> I have a Airnet AWN154/AWD154 wireless networking card, I also have a onboard LAN that I cannot get to run.... How do I get this to run on 5.10?
[04:05] <distanceisdeath> What am i looking for?
[04:05] <Stormy> chipset
[04:05] <nickrud> gs, search & download, packages.ubuntu.com :)
[04:05] <Dow> wil go to continue learn how to use, lightstar,  thanks from my heart
[04:05] <jtrnp> lightstar: I have now posted my NAT rules to pastebin
[04:05] <distanceisdeath> well, if i install linux
[04:05] <Stormy> AshDragon, search for your wifi card specs, find out it's chipset
[04:05] <distanceisdeath> and it doesnt work
[04:05] <intelikey> odder and odder as we go.   now i can't connect via ssh
[04:05] <distanceisdeath> i can install windows vover it?
[04:05] <Stormy> AshDragon, use lspci
[04:05] <distanceisdeath> over*&
[04:05] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, of course
[04:05] <jighead> jtrnp, paste the link here and we can look at it
[04:05] <lightstar> Dow, your welcome...and welcome to the land of ubuntu;)
[04:05] <jtrnp> um k
[04:05] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, im taking the risk
[04:06] <jtrnp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15627
[04:06] <distanceisdeath> haha
[04:06] <jtrnp> I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but you can take a look
[04:06] <intelikey> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused  <--- can ssh work with nosuid ?
[04:06] <nickrud> intelikey, is lo even up?
[04:06] <oogy2> anyone have any experience with kernel panic on install?
[04:06] <JohnsonE> is acm4 any good?
[04:06] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, ndiswrappers are hard, and i dont know if i can get the driver for the pci card.
[04:07] <Toma-> anyone a way to stop Archive Manager from extracting as you drag?
[04:07] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, you would be supprised
[04:07] <intelikey> nickrud yes  that was the first thing i checked
[04:07] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, if you know the model # you can do alot
[04:07] <oogy2> i have a dell dimension 2300, and every debian based distro that uses 2.6 kernel (that i've tried) kernel panics
[04:07] <distanceisdeath> Stormy, you gonna help me through it?
[04:07] <Stormy> distanceisdeath, no i'm not going to hold your hand
[04:07] <ubuntu> hola
[04:07] <nickrud> intelikey, ah, one thing right then. Have more fun :)
[04:07] <distanceisdeath> not like that
[04:07] <Milk> anyone here good with exim?  no one seems to be answering in #exim
[04:08] <jighead> jtrnp, you are not allowing any NEW incoming traffic on ppp0
[04:08] <lightstar> jtrnp, this machine is the one your using to host something correct? looks like you blocked all incoming traffic
[04:08] <ubuntu> naything speak spanish
[04:08] <nickrud> !es
[04:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:08] <intelikey> nickrud mock on.   just because you couldn't get something like this to work doesn't mean i wont.   ;/
[04:08] <lightstar> jtrnp, i cant recall exactly..let me have a look at my iptables rules
[04:08] <jtrnp> ok, i see...
[04:08] <jighead> jtrnp, you should set a few rules that allow incoming traffic on the ports you wish to serve (ssh, http, ftp)
[04:08] <jtrnp> ok, no problem
[04:08] <Codenut_>   /quit
[04:08] <nickrud> intelikey, not mocking, just mocking :)
[04:08] <jtrnp> ahh..
[04:08] <clusty> i was wondering if there is an easy way to make grub have nice GUI rather then text menu
[04:08] <Jinkz> So, anyone try the new Google Earth release for linux?
[04:08] <jtrnp> So, I guess I had it all secured down then..
[04:09] <AshDragon> I have tried lspci and I cannot see it in there at all.. I get the onboard lan, the USB, video, modem, and audio but nothing about the Wireless card
[04:09] <nickrud> intelikey, I've built from scratch, I know it's fun
[04:09] <intelikey> oh 8*{
[04:09] <Stormy> clusty, google grub
[04:09] <DaveyJ> quick question... how can i make shift+backspace NOT throw me out of my session?
[04:09] <wastrel> ssh - check hosts.allow/hosts.deny
[04:09] <jighead> jtrnp, you sure did, google around, you can find some pretty good firewall scripts out there, or use firestarter if you don't like writing rules by hand
[04:09] <wastrel> DaveyJ:  supposably a hard-coded feature in xgl
[04:09] <Stormy> AshDragon, how does it connect?
[04:09] <tristanmike> DaveyJ: is that with xgl ?
[04:09] <DaveyJ> oh :(
[04:09] <DaveyJ> i keep pressing it by accident.. very annoying
[04:09] <AshDragon> Stormy: PCI if that is what you want
[04:09] <lightstar> jtrnp, what did you use to create the iptables rules?
[04:09] <tristanmike> wastrel: really ? good to know, i was wondering about that
[04:10] <lightstar> jtrnp, try using firestarter
[04:10] <jtrnp> jighead:  thanks a lot.  I haven't focused to much on fixing it, but that really helped me out.
[04:10] <jtrnp> lightstar:  ok
[04:10] <nameless14> does anyone know any torrent or download programs that are limit to fluxtorrent but alternatives
[04:10] <Stormy> AshDragon, you might have a cardbus bridge in your way stopping you from seeing your card
[04:10] <wastrel> tristanmike:  i just heard someone else in here say it when someone else asked about it :] 
[04:10] <jtrnp> lightstar:  i googled around and more or less wrote them by hand...
[04:10] <lightstar> jtrnp, its a gui that can help config your f/w rules in a easier manner
[04:10] <wastrel> hence the supposably
[04:10] <AshDragon> Stormy: What can I do about that?
[04:10] <tristanmike> wastrel: tanks for passing the info along, know I know a direction to look, :D
[04:10] <jtrnp> lightstar:  the only thing is, i'm running a minimal server install with no x
[04:10] <lightstar> jtrnp, ahh:)..dun worry..every1 makes that mistake of blocking all incoming:)
[04:10] <lightstar> jtrnp, i c
[04:10] <DaveyJ> okay now everytime i ask this i get a different answer.. but i'll try again anyway
[04:11] <DaveyJ> is it possible to use xgl with multiple monitors? even if its running different sessions?
[04:11] <Stormy> AshDragon, start reading up on your wifi card search it with linux in google and see what comes up
[04:11] <tristanmike> DaveyJ: you should really bring all xgl discussion to #ubuntu-xgl
[04:11] <jtrnp> lighstar, so I guess I need to just mess around with writing up a few more? or is there some tool to help?
[04:11] <AshDragon> Thanks
[04:11] <DaveyJ> ok :)
[04:12] <jighead> jtrnp, sudo aptitude install firestarter
[04:12] <JohnsonE> the Aven Cave Survey Tool has got to be the most useless thing I've ever seen :o
[04:12] <mcpowley> Hey guys, i'm having some trouble. sometimes my ubuntu randomly kicks me back to the log in screen as if I had pressed ctrl alt backspace...when I haven't. It always seems to happen when i'm typing at some point or another...is there a different shortcut that im accidently holding down when typing that I don't know about that restarts?
[04:12] <wastrel> jtrnp:  definitely learn how to watch your firewall logs while you're debugging your rules :]   knowledge being power & all
[04:12] <jighead> jtrnp, whoops, no x nevermind
[04:12] <jtrnp> jighead:  i'm not running a gui, therefore I don't have aptitude
[04:12] <stevekl> Is it possible to select from a list of users on gnome's login screen?
[04:12] <jtrnp> wastrel, thanks
[04:12] <wastrel> aptitude is cli
[04:12] <jtrnp> jighead, no prob
[04:12] <tristanmike> mcpowley: let me guess, you have xgl, and I bet it's only when you type "Shift+Backspace"
[04:13] <lightstar> jighead, is ipmenu still avail for dapper? he could use tat..after all its just ncurses
[04:13] <mcpowley> tristanmike: Ah, you got it right on the head.
[04:13] <stevekl> Can I just get an indication that i'm not on everyone's ignore list
[04:13] <tristanmike> :D
[04:13] <Yoosah> stevekl: not on everyone's ignore list
[04:13] <mcpowley> tristanmike: XGl has been a hassle for me, I don't even want it anymore, it's nice but I think i might take it off
[04:13] <stevekl> Yoosah: phew
[04:13] <tristanmike> mcpowley: it seems that may be hardcoded into xgl, or so wastrel has informed me
[04:14] <jtrnp> I run a a gui on my other comps, but I decided I might as well learn the command line way for my server...
[04:14] <tristanmike> mcpowley: I've had no problems really since I discovered what was "randomly" throwing me out of my session too :P
[04:14] <jtrnp> And I have definately learned a lot, and I'm glad I did
[04:14] <jtrnp> .
[04:15] <jighead> jtrnp, lightstar i don't see any cli fw configs
[04:15] <lonegeek> whats an alternative to gstreamer
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> tristanmike, what did throw you out?
[04:15] <nickrud> stevekl, hm, lemme check :)
[04:15] <tristanmike> lonegeek: xine maybe
[04:15] <jighead> jtrnp, if you have a linux gui on another pc, use firestarter to gen your rules there and scp them to your gateway
[04:15] <_jason> lonegeek: xine
[04:15] <lightstar> jighead, i cant find 1 either..but i know there was sth similar for breezy..just cant recall
[04:15] <jtrnp> jighead, sounds like a good idea
[04:16] <tristanmike> nomasteryoda: ? sorry, what do you mean ?
[04:16] <wastrel> ok since you're citing me on this shift-backspace thing
[04:16] <wastrel> herre's the fix:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186714
[04:16] <lightstar> jtrnp, yeah tat would make the most sense...just dump the rules using iptables-save
[04:16] <tristanmike> wastrel: lol, thanx
[04:16] <jighead> lightstar, i see ipfwadm, but i thought that was old, old stuff
[04:16] <jtrnp> ok, sounds good...
[04:16] <lufis> is there any way to remove or disable hardware?
[04:16] <lonegeek> whats an alternative to gstreamer for mp3 audio ( in banshee)
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> tristanmike,  oh, you mentioned above that your kept geting thrown out
[04:16] <jighead> lightstar, i haven't tried it though, so it could be worth a shot
[04:16] <nickrud> stevekl, yes, System-Admin-Login Manager, select Style Plain
[04:16] <lightstar> jighead, tat wun do at all:)
[04:16] <uXp> anyone know how to enabled writing to a external hard drive, says i don't have access
[04:16] <tristanmike> nomasteryoda: oh, it kept kicking me back to the logon screen
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> wow
[04:17] <uXp> i tried dragging a file into it and it won't let me
[04:17] <jighead> lightstar, i figured
[04:17] <tristanmike> nomasteryoda: the same way as if you hit "ctrl+alt+delete"
[04:17] <jtrnp> lighstar, since you bring up iptables-save, I have one more question: when I run that on my server to save my rules, I can never seem to restore them after a reboot?  Maybe i'm misinterpreting the purpose of iptables-save
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> sure
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> or ctrlaltbkspc
[04:17] <wastrel> ok g'nigh
[04:17] <wastrel> t
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> my ubuntu locks up tight sometimes
[04:18] <bimberi> pppoe_dude: sry got called away, if you've been able to install a breezy package without getting dependency issues and its working then it's probably ok
[04:18] <chumpalump> uXp: What kinda filesystem?
[04:18] <tristanmike> nomasteryoda: and it was annoying cause it seemed to happen randomly, when I was typing, so it took a while to figure out what was causing it
[04:18] <uXp> ntfs
[04:18] <stevekl> nickrud: ok thank you!
[04:18] <jtrnp> lightstar: actually nevermind, I'll do some research on it
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> yea for sure
[04:18] <nickrud> stevekl, erm, it's changed again, a sec
[04:18] <Exdaix> Hey guys, I have an ATI IXP sound card built into my laptop, and I can only change the master volume by changing the "Headphones" volume slider....  any way to remap this?
[04:18] <jtrnp> lighstar, jighead: thank u guys a lot, you've really helped me..
[04:18] <intelikey> now sombody test ssh for me.
[04:19] <sergio> what up
[04:19] <chumpalump> uXp: If you run mount in a terminal, what does the mount point info look like
[04:19] <sergio> speak spanish plis
[04:19] <lightstar> jtrnp, np:)...
[04:19] <nickrud> stevekl, choose face browser
[04:19] <_jason> !es
[04:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:20] <nickrud> stevekl, you can actually put people's pictures in that, makes it even easier
[04:20] <sergio> gracias hermano
[04:20] <LiteHedded> I did dist-upgrade and I don't think it worked
[04:20] <jtrnp> alright, well i'm off to write some iptables rules, w00t. l8r
[04:20] <uXp> chumpalump:  what do you mean
[04:20] <nickrud> intelikey, sure, where?
[04:21] <intelikey> guest@63.157.90.52
[04:21] <nickrud> intelikey, it's up
[04:21] <chumpalump> uXp: Under accessories in your main menu there is a Terminal program.  Start it ....
[04:22] <intelikey> yep thank you.
[04:22] <sergio> perrin como xaxu entro a donde me dijiste
[04:22] <byLeal> hello...
[04:22] <chumpalump> uXp: at the prompt, type "mount" without the quotes
[04:22] <nickrud> sergio, es?
[04:22] <stevekl> nickrud: Face browser is cool
[04:22] <Bratsche> Hello, everyone.
[04:22] <nickrud> stevekl, yeah, it is :)
[04:22] <sergio> k soy k ?
[04:22] <nickrud> !es
[04:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:23] <intelikey> now i think i'll rewrite inittab  and  rcS
[04:23] <TigerWolf> Ive forgotten the link to the ubuntu forums wiki repository - anyone give me a link?
[04:23] <Bratsche> I'm about to install xubuntu. Is there anything I should know?
[04:23] <byLeal> i have just upgraded to 6.06, and the firmware_class driver is gone...
[04:23] <uXp> chumpalump:  ok im htere
[04:23] <nickrud> intelikey, why not just use linux from scratch :)
[04:23] <sergio> perodonen las molestias e k recienestoy migrando a linux
[04:23] <TigerWolf> Its not showing up in google
[04:23] <lufis> Hi. I have two sound cards, One is on the mobo, one is a PCI device. I don't use the mobo one, Is there any way (short of recompiling the kernel without the particular driver) to disable the mobo one?
[04:23] <intelikey> dialup
[04:23] <stevekl> !de
[04:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:23] <tristanmike> Bratsche: you may spend a lot of time having fun, beware :D
[04:23] <byLeal> how can i load the modem firmware in ubuntu 6.06?
[04:23] <Dancehall> hello
[04:24] <chumpalump> uXp: did you type mount and then hit enter?
[04:24] <nickrud> sergio, language ?
[04:24] <uXp> yes
[04:24] <stevekl> byLeal: If it's an .exe that you need to run, you probably can't
[04:24] <jighead> byLeal, what modem do you have?
[04:24] <Dancehall> como hago para entrar en #ubuntu-studio????
[04:24] <Bratsche> tristanmike: Oh, you mean messing about, or just having fun with ubuntu in general?
[04:24] <TigerWolf> Ive forgotten the link to the ubuntu forums wiki repository - anyone give me a link?
[04:24] <byLeal> i have a dsl-210.
[04:24] <intelikey> yes nickrud
[04:24] <sergio> hablo castellano  nickrud
[04:24] <chumpalump> What does the line with your external drive look like
[04:25] <tristanmike> Bratsche: everything, it's lots o' fun
[04:25] <paul_> tigerwolf: www.google.com
[04:25] <uXp> chumpalump:  yes i typed mount
[04:25] <Bratsche> tristanmike: Sweet.
[04:25] <sergio> me puedes guiar
[04:25] <ddonky> I installed vmware server and now my computer is slow, anyone know how to fix it?
[04:25] <byLeal> it works in ubuntu 5.10. but the firmware was load with firmware_class driver.
[04:25] <intelikey> nickrud actually i saw Amaranth attempt eariler but can you actually login ?
[04:25] <TigerWolf> paul_: Came up with nothing in first 3 pages
[04:25] <Bratsche> Here's a noob question though: can you access windows partitions while in xubuntu?
[04:25] <di> can anyone please help me with my broken apt system?
[04:25] <paul_> search ubuntu wiki
[04:25] <chumpalump> uXp: do you see it in the list?
[04:25] <ddonky> I think it's a program called 'vware-serverd' that is causing the slowness.
[04:25] <stevekl> di: What's the problem?
[04:25] <intelikey> di what error ?
[04:26] <uXp> chumpalump:  yes
[04:26] <tristanmike> Bratsche: yes, can't write to ntfs, but can read, and can read/write to fat32
[04:26] <byLeal> now i'm online with that modem... i have to load the firmware with the old installation, then connect in dapper.
[04:26] <stevekl> (One of my typing fingers is hurt :()
[04:26] <uXp> aww
[04:26] <uXp> lets all rubb it
[04:26] <paul_> or better yet go to ubuntu.org and click on wiki
[04:26] <byLeal> must be a replacement to firmware_class..
[04:26] <di> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15628
[04:26] <eigenlambda> every finger is a typing finger...
[04:26] <Bratsche> Ok, so what would ntfs and fat32 mean?
[04:26] <eigenlambda> well, except my left thumb.  most of the time
[04:26] <di> stevekl intelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15628
[04:27] <chumpalump> uXp: does it have (r) or (rw) on the end?
[04:27] <tristanmike> Bratsche: ntfs = Win2k and XP  fat32 = 98 and prev.
[04:27] <uXp> rw
[04:27] <stevekl> di: hm
[04:27] <mcpowley> oh my god, I just pressed shift backspace again by accident.
[04:27] <Bratsche> OK, good. I have Windows ME
[04:27] <chumpalump> tristanmike: cool, good to know
[04:27] <di> apt-get -f install does not work
[04:27] <Stormy> could someone point me in the right direction for some sort of a howto to move from 5.10 to whatever current stable is ( i think 6.06 )?
[04:27] <uXp> chumpalump:  /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[04:27] <Bratsche> though that should qualify as an OS
[04:27] <stevekl> di: Ok, I would try "apt-get -f install" first, that will clean everything up
[04:27] <tristanmike> Bratsche: basically it's the filesystem type
[04:27] <nickrud> sergio, ah. #ubuntu-es is closest, I think
[04:27] <di> stevekl: it didnt work
[04:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell Stormy about upgrade
[04:28] <tristanmike> Bratsche: it doesn't :P
[04:28] <di> thats the -f output
[04:28] <stevekl> di: And then I would look at your sources.lst, make sure there aren't any conflicting sources
[04:28] <stevekl> di: ok
[04:28] <nickrud> intelikey, yes,
[04:28] <gdb> Well, Linux's software mirroring has saved my bacon.  One of the drives in my /home mirror blew and while the failed disk was causing the machine to hang while booting, the other drive is working fine.
[04:28] <di> stevekl: i tried to install some debian packages
[04:28] <di> stevekl: it failed
[04:28] <uXp> chumpalump:  now what?
[04:28] <stevekl> di: Ah, yeah, that might be hard to do, debian packages aren't guaranteed to have the same dependencies as ubuntu packages
[04:29] <nickrud> does anyone know a quick way to see all the language channels for ubuntu on freenode?
[04:29] <Bratsche> tristanmike: Ok, well, thank you.
[04:29] <intelikey> ah yes good thank you nickrud
[04:29] <Bratsche> Wish me luck?! :)
[04:29] <zeelot> hi there i just download the new google earth linux edition which looks like this: GoogleEarthLinux.bin is there any one could teach me how to install it?
[04:29] <_jason> !irc
[04:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, irc is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage or have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[04:29] <chumpalump> uXp: tristanmike just mentioned you can't write to ntfs, only fat32, but the mount command says rw, so.. I'm checkin it out
[04:29] <maxy_noob> hi guys. I have a question about mounting an image on linux.
[04:29] <di> stevekl: how do i force a remove of libc6?
[04:29] <stevekl> zeelot: Probably just run that file
[04:29] <lightstar> zeelot, sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[04:29] <uXp> chumpalump:  ok thx
[04:29] <_jason> nickrud: the wuc link ubotu just gave should list them
[04:29] <mcpowley> does anyone know how to configure xchat so whenever I launch it, it automatically connects to freenode and the room of my choice(#ubuntu)?
[04:30] <stevekl> di: apt-get remove doesn't work?
[04:30] <zeelot> lightstar: thank i will try!
[04:30] <tristanmike> zeelot: change directory to where the file is then "chmod +x filename.bin"  then "./filename.bin
[04:30] <di> ya
[04:30] <lightstar> zeelot, np:)
[04:30] <nickrud> _jason, that gave me wikipedia's def of irc :)
[04:30] <nickrud> _jason, arg, doh, all that :)
[04:30] <lightstar> mcpowley, yes you can..when you see the server list, click on the edit button, you can config your nick and channels to join
[04:30] <_jason> nickrud: wuc = wiki.ubuntu.com , the other link :)
[04:31] <ddonky> It starts a program called, something like, "vware-serverd". top says it's using 80% of CPU and 90% of RAM
[04:31] <mcpowley> lightstar: Thanks much!
[04:31] <stevekl> ooooh, I LOVE how nautilus just *works* with network shares
[04:31] <stevekl> It's just THERE
[04:31] <stevekl> That is awesome
[04:31] <stevekl> Why did it take me this long to try gnome?
[04:31] <Mysta_> hello, Can  I enable remote desktop on xubuntu?
[04:32] <maxy_noob> I have a dvd with an mdf image. It's an image of UT2K4. I'd like to load it in order to install UT2K4.
[04:32] <intelikey> stevekl i have had deps problems that wouldn't let apt remove packages because they depended on thing they were removing.   gconf2  for instance   re-running apt-get remove three times actually did get that one tho
[04:32] <maxy_noob> Presently Ubuntu can't read the disk
[04:32] <lightstar> Mysta, you would need to install x11vnc 1st though
[04:32] <_jason> nickrud: well it seems to have changed but it still links to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat?action=show&redirect=IrcChannels which is what I wanted to point you to
[04:32] <stevekl> maxy_noob: you might be able to mount it loopback, do "mount -o loop image.mdf /where/ever/"
[04:32] <stevekl> maxy_noob: *might* work
[04:33] <nickrud> _jason, I found the command on the page, thanks. I just tried to skim, and got bad milk
[04:33] <maxy_noob> where do I do that from, stevekl?
[04:33] <stevekl> maxy_noob: from anywhere
[04:33] <stevekl> maxy_noob: as root
[04:33] <stevekl> use sudo
[04:33] <maxy_noob> k
[04:33] <Exdaix> Hey guys, I have an ATI IXP sound card built into my laptop, and I can only change the master volume by changing the "Headphones" volume slider....  any way to remap this?
[04:33] <LiteHedded> I did dist-upgrade and I don't think it worked
[04:33] <stevekl> Uh, can you mount .mdf as loopback, guys?
[04:34] <Daskies> What's the terminal command for rename?
[04:34] <stevekl> Daskies: there is none, use mv
[04:34] <nickrud> Daskies, mv
[04:34] <tristanmike> Daskies: mv
[04:34] <intelikey> plug into the other jack ?
[04:34] <Exdaix> there is no jack...
[04:34] <maxy_noob> can't find image.mdf/where/ever/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:34] <Daskies> stevekl: mv /location/ /location2/  ?
[04:34] <lonegeek> what are alternatives to gstreamer audio output
[04:35] <chumpalump> uXp: Yeah, readonly is forced, otherwise you can get file damage :-(
[04:35] <di> how do i remove a wrongly installed debian libc6 package?
[04:35] <stevekl> maxy_noob: No not literally, replace image.mdf with the name of the file
[04:35] <nickrud> lonegeek, xine, install totem-xine and libxine-extracodecs, and the w32codecs
[04:35] <stevekl> maxy_noob: and /where/ever with wherever you want to moun it
[04:35] <uXp> damn it
[04:35] <stevekl> mount it
[04:35] <uXp> ok thx
[04:35] <maxy_noob> oh (blush)
[04:35] <nickrud> lonegeek, w32codecs, see below
[04:35] <uXp> no more movies thne =[
[04:35] <nickrud> !w32codecs
[04:35] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[04:36] <maxy_noob> the thing is: I can't even see what the image is named because I get an error message.
[04:36] <intelikey> di sudo dpkg --force-all --purge package   ?
[04:36] <maxy_noob> Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted.
[04:36] <lonegeek> nickrud: thats not what i need! xine is a sepeparate player ..which i already have...when in programs i want another option for playback engines
[04:36] <lightstar> lonegeek, gmplayer?
[04:37] <nickrud> lonegeek, totem can use either gstreamer or xine as the backend. You don't need to use the xine player, use totem-xine
[04:37] <chumpalump> uXp: Why do you need writable for movies?
[04:37] <maxy_noob> mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:37] <maxy_noob> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd,
[04:37] <maxy_noob>        missing codepage or other error
[04:37] <maxy_noob>        in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:37] <maxy_noob>        dmesg | tail  or so
[04:37] <lonegeek> nickrud: i have that...but xine doesnt show up as a engine in banshee
[04:37] <nickrud> lonegeek, unless we're talking at cross purposes here
[04:37] <di> intelikey: i tried sudo dpkg --force- -r libc6 and now commands like ls and sudo dont work
[04:37] <uXp> chumpalump:  im triyng ot put the ones i just dl into my external HD
[04:37] <uXp> for later
[04:37] <di> bash: /bin/ls: No such file or directory
[04:38] <nickrud> lonegeek, ah, banshee. As best I can tell, banshee only uses gstreamer
[04:38] <stevekl> maxy_noob: Hm, I guess loop won't work for that
[04:38] <stevekl> maxy_noob: sorry, I have no other ideas :(
[04:38] <maxy_noob> :(
[04:38] <maxy_noob> thanks for your help
[04:38] <lonegeek> nickrud: that sucks because it over ampliys audio...
[04:38] <intelikey> di and that errored out because there was no agr to the force agr..... man dpkg
[04:38] <nickrud> lonegeek, strike that:  banshee only uses gstreamer
[04:38] <lonegeek> amplifys
[04:39] <sergio> hello
[04:39] <chumpalump> uXp: see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/364 for discussion.  Can you format the drive at fat32.  Then it's usable by linux and windows.
[04:39] <nickrud> lonegeek, gstreamer is supposed to be totally customizable, but looking for howtos? priceless
[04:39] <intelikey> di it's not  --force- blah.   it's --force-<agr>     where arg might be   all
[04:39] <lonegeek> nickrud: well in banshee and vlc...if i put volume to max...its too much volume and everything is garbled
[04:40] <nickrud> lonegeek, as an ex-bench tech, never put any control over 80%.
[04:40] <jighead> di, if you managed to remove libc, you will most likely have to boot from cd and get the right version installed
[04:40] <nickrud> lonegeek, look elsewhere for more amplification
[04:40] <di> jighead: how?
[04:40] <lonegeek> nickrud: well in banshee its about around 20 percent with master at 100percent and thats usually fine...for most stuff
[04:41] <lonegeek> nickrud, it over amplifys
[04:41] <Stormy> what's the easyest way to install an smp kernel in ubuntu 5.10?
[04:41] <intelikey> nickrud yeah but that's the tech way  this is  ubuntu
[04:42] <qwe> greetings. how much hard disc space is considered minimum for an ubuntu install? I've got a big partition for /home, I just need a / now
[04:42] <sparkleytone> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host <--- this is suddenly happening...i made no changes.  ub 6.06 server.
[04:42] <mcpowley> could anyone recommend a reliable and fast email client for linux that would work with gmail? One with a gui, or text based is fine..
[04:42] <Stormy> qwe is that all you want swap, /boot, /, /home?
[04:42] <jighead> di, if you boot from cd, you might be able to find the libc deb in /var/cache/apt/archives, or you can dig around on the cd and see if it is in one of the pools
[04:42] <lightstar> mcpowley, thunderbird
[04:42] <qwe> Stormy: no /boot, but yes
[04:43] <nickrud> intelikey, most amplifier's distort above 90%.
[04:43] <qwe> Stormy: plus swap and a small winxp partition(ugh)
[04:43] <intelikey> stormy that's 4 more partitions than i have
[04:43] <stuNNed> so i have ndiswrapper-source what is the one liner to get it installed?
[04:43] <jighead> !tell jighead about chroot
[04:43] <Stormy> qwe you should have a boot, and if you plan on installing alot of crap, make it about 15-20 gb to be safe
[04:43] <di> jighead: ok..
[04:43] <Stormy> intelikey, you also probally know what your doing more than qwe
[04:43] <devians> i have a breezy box here that has completely broken networking. it can ping local lan addresses fine, but as soon as you try anything beyond the gateway, it dies. and for all the googling i do, apparently its configured correctly.
[04:43] <lonegeek> how do i install quake 3...i run the .run file..and it says mount cd ......it is...i think...its in drive and shows up under computer
[04:43] <nickrud> except for crown, never could make those babies distort, ever
[04:43] <KanRiNiN> Hey, can someone explain what a segmentation fault is?  I got one from Google Earth, and again from a game, so I think it has to do with my ATI drivers..  Thanks
[04:44] <intelikey> nickrud yeah i know.   was just commenting    talking through my hat    maybe.
[04:44] <devians> any ideas as to what could be wrong? or how i could run through something and completely redo networking from scratch
[04:44] <qwe> Stormy: I don't need no stinkin' /boot, or any lectures about it for that matter. I was hoping I could get away with 5 gb
[04:44] <di> i think ill just re-install ubuntu
[04:44] <alchemist> KanRiNiN: a segfault is when the program craps it's pants
[04:44] <nickrud> intelikey, or testing, never hurts to do that
[04:44] <alchemist> KanRiNiN: it can be caused by a number of things
[04:44] <specialbuddy> how would I go about installing BitPim if it's a .rpm
[04:44] <godmachine81> anyone here using e17?
[04:44] <Stormy> qwe then ignore what i have to say, but when your machine doesn't boot 6 months down the road don't come whining to me
[04:44] <intelikey> qwe 5g is plenty to install ubuntu on
[04:44] <alchemist> specialbuddy: you can un-rpm with cpio as I recall. check google
[04:45] <qwe> intelikey: gotcha
[04:45] <specialbuddy> ok
[04:45] <planetcall> my / is full. Is there a way to increase the partition size ?
[04:45] <specialbuddy> thanks
[04:45] <godmachine81> ok let me restate the question
[04:45] <KanRiNiN> alchemist: what's a command to let me see the errors?  Isn't it like | dmesg or something?
[04:45] <di> intelikey: what happens when the ubuntu installer runs grub-install hd0 when grub is already in the mbr?
[04:45] <alchemist> specialbuddy: it's been a while since I had to do that
[04:45] <godmachine81> who all here has e17 successfully installed?
[04:45] <lightstar> devians, can other machines ping out?
[04:45] <qwe> planetcall: you can try parted
[04:45] <lightstar> devians, u sure it isn't the gateway problem?
[04:45] <intelikey> di it just over-writes the mbr
[04:45] <alchemist> KanRiNiN: normally a core file will be left in the working dir, and you can push that into gdb if you know what you're doing
[04:45] <sparkleytone> anyone??  --> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[04:45] <_jpierre> HI All. I cannot access www.macromedia.com and i believe that it is down. Can anyone help?
[04:45] <qwe> planetcall: but that assumes you have free space left on the HD
[04:46] <alchemist> KanRiNiN: otherwise if the app has an error log, you can check that
[04:46] <_jpierre> HI All. I cannot access www.macromedia.com and i believe that it is NOT down. Can anyone help?
[04:46] <devians> lightstar, its just that box. im on irc to you arent i? :)
[04:46] <di> intelikey: will that be damaging?
[04:46] <planetcall> qwe, as it is the root it might be risky.  Cant I shrink other partition and merge the freespace with /   ?
[04:46] <alchemist> KanRiNiN: usually I have to give the core file to someone who knows what they're doing with them, since I don't ;)
[04:46] <nickrud> _jpierre, it's up for me
[04:46] <qwe> planetcall: possibly
[04:46] <nickrud> _jpierre, as adobe.com that is
[04:46] <lightstar> devians, rite..:)
[04:46] <intelikey> di see the links for !dualboot  and  !grub   check the wiki on that
[04:46] <di> !grub
[04:46] <intelikey> !grub
[04:46] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:46] <qwe> planetcall: fairly likely if they're right next to each other
[04:47] <_jpierre> nickrud, do you think there could be something wrong on my system dissallowing me to access it?
[04:49] <KanRiNiN> Man, I just saw the eyecandy wiki..I'm almost afraid to try any of that with this old Radeon 9000
[04:49] <uXp> how do you get a trashcan on the desktop?
[04:50] <AJ004> how do i traceroute in ubuntu
[04:50] <cyphase> is anyone having problems with beagle in dapper?
[04:50] <kieranDOA> Nope.
[04:50] <uXp> how do you get a trashcan on the desktop?
[04:50] <AJ004> nevermind
[04:50] <nickrud> _jpierre, I'm not much for networking, just a few specific issues
[04:50] <BioVorE> AJ004: same as you do any another distro use traceroute IP  (might need to install it first.. sudo apt-get install traceroute)
[04:50] <intelikey> uXp i have no idea.  i'm always working at it from the oppisite end.  getting rid of the trash altogather....  so rm=rm   not rm=mv
[04:51] <cyphase> uXp, you have to edit gconf
[04:51] <uXp> code
[04:51] <nickrud> _jpierre, but BioVorE 's advice about traceroute is probably useful
[04:51] <bimberi> ubotu tell uXp about desktoptrash
[04:51] <cyphase> uXp: open gconf-editor
[04:51] <specialbuddy> so is there anyway to turm rpm to deb
[04:52] <BioVorE> specialbuddy: alien dose that
[04:52] <bimberi> AJ004: note that the tracepath command is similar and is installed by default
[04:52] <intelikey> can you not drag the trash can to the desktop   or is that only a k thing  ?
[04:52] <nickrud> uXp, alt-f2 gconf-editor, navigate to /apps/nautilus/desktop. you can turn on the desktop trash there.
[04:52] <planetcall> qwe, any graphical utility for resizing/shrinking partition ?
[04:52] <cyphase> uXp: you should have gotten a message from ubotu
[04:52] <KanRiNiN> gparted I think, planetcall
[04:52] <_jpierre> How do i run traceroute
[04:52] <specialbuddy> yeah I'm looking at that now
[04:52] <specialbuddy> thanks
[04:52] <di> does anyone know whether running grub-install hd0 twice is bad?
[04:53] <uXp> thnx nickrud
[04:53] <planetcall> KanRiNiN, ty
[04:53] <jighead> di, no it's not
[04:53] <intelikey> di no it should'nt be
[04:53] <lonegeek> can i use a logitech quickcams microphone in linux?
[04:53] <bimberi> cyphase: an itch to scratch :)
[04:53] <lonegeek> it shows up in sound mixer under camera
[04:54] <di> thanks!
[04:54] <cyphase> bimberi: not so much an itch..
[04:54] <cyphase> :P
[04:54] <bimberi> :)
[04:54] <qwe> planetcall: gparted, qtparted
[04:54] <qwe> I myself prefer gparted
[04:54] <_smd_> Epiphany  will not open for me anymore.  I click on it, and it looks like it IS going to load, but then it goes away and never does
[04:54] <nickrud> cyphase, that reminded me: gtweakui, it has that :)
[04:54] <nameless14> I am running vsftpd and i made a ln -s /var/storage/EBooks  inside my /var/ftp/ when i open the ftp i cant open the directory. Anyone know where I am going wrong?
[04:54] <intelikey> di i sent you to the wiki to see what people have to recover from after installing grub and windows in both orders.    you may not have any other os.... if not it can't hurt a thing.
[04:54] <distanceisdeath> Can someone send me a bot for ndiswrappers?
[04:54] <cyphase> personally, i don't want any of those icons on the desktop
[04:55] <KanRiNiN> planetcall: gnome or kde?  qtparted = kde, gparted = gnome
[04:55] <qwe> _smd_: try running it from a terminal and see if it spits out any errors
[04:55] <nickrud> !ndiswrapper
[04:55] <di> thanks!
[04:55] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[04:55] <planetcall> qwe, KanRiNiN  I am going for gparted :)
[04:55] <distanceisdeath> thank you
[04:56] <nickrud> distanceisdeath, yw. You can open a dialog with ubotu (find his name in the userlist, right click and select open dialog) You can query him there
[04:56] <qwe> planetcall: I  *think* it's  even included on the dapper CD. if not you can get the 30mb gparted livecd
[04:56] <distanceisdeath> oh okay nickrud
[04:56] <jinho> has anyone successfully gotten their 5+ button mouse to work in ubuntu?
[04:56] <nickrud> distanceisdeath, I do that a lot, before recommending links :)
[04:57] <distanceisdeath> nickrud, all right cool
[04:57] <intelikey> distanceisdeath or /msg ubotu help
[04:57] <mcpowley> I'm curious...is there any need to defragment your drive for linux?
[04:57] <mcpowley> or is the file system arranged in a way you dont have to?
[04:57] <qwe> planetcall: you can't use it from a mounted partition
[04:57] <qwe> mcpowley: what FS? I  believe reiserfs is auto-defragmented
[04:57] <nickrud> mcpowley, no. Or, there is no mechanism, and I've never seen any of my partitions over 5%
[04:58] <planetcall> i cant operate on /
[04:58] <planetcall> :(
[04:58] <interferon> what's a good dvd burning package?  the one in nautilus keeps aborting and ruining my dvd-r's
[04:58] <intelikey> mcpowley interesting question.   i've never defraged anything sense 1994  so i can't say.
[04:58] <planetcall> Yeah i think i need to reboot from live cd
[04:58] <qwe> planetcall: see above. you can't use it from a mounted partition
[04:58] <lightstar> interferon, try k3b
[04:58] <qwe> interferon: I like k3b personally
[04:59] <_smd_> Epiphany  will not open for me anymore.  I click on it, and it looks like it IS going to load, but then it goes away and never does.   It did open before i installed beep and xine....    qwe: how do you run it from terminal?  I do not go in terminal much except for how I know how to use terminal.
[04:59] <jinho> is it possible to get an intellimouse to work exactly the same way as it does in Windows?
[04:59] <someothernick> gnomebaker seems good
[04:59] <planetcall> but is it installed by default on the CD ?
[04:59] <someothernick> no :/
[04:59] <nickrud> intelikey, seems llike it's one of those take it on faith things, I've never seen a convincing description of how fragmentation is handled on ext2. Or, never found one, anyway
[04:59] <bimberi> ubotu tell jinho about mousebuttons
[04:59] <someothernick> you can get it in repos
[04:59] <qwe> planetcall: go to the gparted site and download  their livecd
[04:59] <intelikey> nickrud 5% is kinda high for what i'm used to...  .2 / 3%
[04:59] <Kman42> hey guys
[04:59] <planetcall> :(
[05:00] <Kman42> you know what sux
[05:00] <planetcall> ok i will do it later
[05:00] <intelikey> err .3
[05:00] <planetcall> why is amarok not playing my mp3 ?
[05:00] <VitaminG> interferon: assuming you're using gnome, gnomeburner is pretty good. No Movie publishing capabilities, but an excellent file-backup program
[05:00] <nickrud> intelikey, small root partition it was, and heavily worked
[05:00] <planetcall> I just installed it
[05:00] <mcpowley> qwe:ext3 i believe
[05:00] <intelikey> yeah
[05:00] <Kman42> Installing dapper f'ed up my windows partition
[05:00] <Kman42> ouch
[05:00] <intelikey> lots of rm's and cp's i'd think
[05:00] <alth> Hey guys. I still can't get Flash to work with my copy of Firefox. I've followed the tutorial, but it's still saying it's not installed :
[05:00] <mcpowley> qwe:but i also have a shared fat32 partition for both windows and linux
[05:00] <KuLover> Anyone use a Ubuntu compatible USB micraphone/headset that they could reccomend?
[05:00] <CrazyDoode_> cool.. google earth for linux is out..
[05:00] <Kman42> now my xp wont boot up
[05:00] <Kman42> :(
[05:01] <planetcall> qwe, any help on amarok ?
[05:01] <intelikey> !dualboot
[05:01] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[05:01] <intelikey> Kman42 ^
[05:01] <Kman42> i know
[05:01] <intelikey> or is it !grub
[05:01] <Kman42> i followed humans instructions here
[05:01] <intelikey> anyway.
[05:01] <Kman42> and i messed up my partition
[05:01] <nickrud> Kman42, I'm sending you a text fragment in a pm, could you do     gedit /boot/grub/menu.list , and see if that fragment is in that file?
[05:02] <VitaminG> alth: I installed my copy through the firefox pop-up thing when I went to a site that required it, and mine works fine. Have you tried that?
[05:02] <Kman42> Sorry, cant help you there nick
[05:02] <planetcall> Amarok is not playing mp3 with Xine. what else do i need ?
[05:02] <mcpowley> is there any downside to using a program for kde in gnome?
[05:02] <nickrud> Kman42, no, it's about your XP
[05:03] <kyledye> how do i remove firefox and set opera as my default browser?
[05:03] <KanRiNiN> !mousebuttons
[05:03] <ubotu> from memory, mousebuttons is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[05:03] <intelikey> mcpowley yeah it makes ubuntu zeolots un-happy  :)
[05:03] <alth> VitaminG: Yes, it tells me it couldn't install any plugins.
[05:03] <Larry1981> Hi, why does grub takes so long to start Linux ?
[05:03] <Kman42> what do ya mean
[05:03] <VitaminG> alth: strange, mine installed and works fine.
[05:03] <Larry1981> 6.06 Beta was faster than 6.06 LTS to load the kernel
[05:04] <Kman42> sorry guys
[05:04] <Kman42> g2g
[05:04] <Kman42> peace nick
[05:04] <intelikey> Larry1981 can you be more vague please ?
[05:04] <nickrud> Kman42, see you
[05:04] <Larry1981> intelikey: I could :p
[05:04] <chapium> is there a way to increase the resolution on the tty's?
[05:04] <nickrud> Larry1981, good question, it hangs here about 5 secs
[05:04] <VitaminG> general question: I've heard both sides of the argument whether to start from scratch with dapper, or to just use the upgrade feature. Which do you recommend? I have 5.10 installed.
[05:04] <alth> VitaminG: Yeah, and it's fine on my laptop, just really annoying me on my desktop.
[05:04] <nickrud> but, whats a few seconds between friends :)
[05:04] <maxy_noob> can someone please help me use wine?
[05:04] <chapium> VitaminG: i upgraded.. there was some weirdness but I managed to tweak my way out of it
[05:05] <Larry1981> nickrud: here also... takes about 5 seconds, byt was much faster before
[05:05] <nickrud> VitaminG, do a fresh install
[05:05] <KuLover> Anyone have an idea of why when im voicing with skype, i cant play music and vise vera? All sound seems to have trouble..
[05:05] <intelikey> if i could install grub on this thing i might look into that.....
[05:05] <maxy_noob> it's installed on my system but I have no clue how to use it to install an exe file
[05:05] <nickrud> VitaminG, this is not debian, it doesn't have the manpower, or the lifecycle to iron out all the upgrade issues.
[05:06] <KanRiNiN> Hey, just read the "!mousebuttons" thing, and my xorg doesn't have a button option, can I just add it in?
[05:06] <nickrud> KanRiNiN, yes
[05:06] <ablyss> kubuntu is so easy i dont know why the even have a channel for it
[05:06] <maxy_noob> anyone?
[05:06] <bimberi> maxy_noob: wine foo.exe (in a terminal)
[05:06] <nickrud> ablyss, rflmao
[05:06] <kyledye> !keyboard
[05:06] <ubotu> kyledye: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:06] <maxy_noob> sudo?
[05:07] <bimberi> maxy_noob: no need
[05:07] <ColonelPanic001> I use Kubuntu, but seems like any problems I might have are either going to be KDE specifically, or Ubunutu. not much sense in asking in #kubuntu
[05:07] <maxy_noob> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\foo.exe": Module not found
[05:07] <nickrud> kyledye, probably you're looking for System->Preferences->Keyboard
[05:07] <KanRiNiN> nickrud: Option	    "Buttons" "7" ?
[05:07] <Dial_tone> is there a graphical tool for managing /etc/init.d processes? I seem to recall red hat having one.
[05:07] <intelikey> well i have to 'fix' the election in the morning, so i guess i better go.
[05:07] <ablyss> ColonelPanic001: that is so true
[05:08] <ColonelPanic001> It's just ubuntu.
[05:08] <ColonelPanic001> so here I sit
[05:08] <ColonelPanic001> :)
[05:08] <nickrud> KanRiNiN, now, that's another question, just what goes in that option :) I don't have one of those over buttonized mice
[05:08] <regeya> ColonelPanic001, you rock.
[05:08] <maxy_noob> bimberi, did you see that?
[05:08] <ColonelPanic001> I try.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Dial_tone,  theres several tools out.. but im not sure what ones are the 'reccomended' ones. :)
[05:08] <maxy_noob> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\foo.exe": Module not found
[05:08] <regeya> indeed.
[05:08] <ablyss> try, lol
[05:08] <regeya> ubuntu users, stop hating on kde.
[05:08] <bimberi> maxy_noob: foo.exe was an example, put the real name of whatever you're running
[05:08] <ColonelPanic001> <3 KDE
[05:08] <KanRiNiN> OK thanks.  But if I did that I'd want to change the Emulate3Button option to false I think...
[05:08] <maxy_noob> oopsies
[05:08] <gdb> !<3 KDE :-(
[05:08] <ubotu> gdb: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> foo.exe :P lol.
[05:08] <maxy_noob> maxy_NOOB
[05:08] <maxy_noob> :D
[05:08] <gdb> lol
[05:09] <nickrud> Dial_tone, bum, I like sysv-rc-conf
[05:09] <ablyss> we all use ubuntu!... i hope
[05:09] <kunal> hello ALSA related question
[05:09] <VitaminG> regeya: I'm not hating on KDE, I just prefer Gnome, and don't make fun of me for it.
[05:09] <ColonelPanic001> linux sound question?! *hides*
[05:09] <cyphase> does anyone else have problems with X crashing randomly
[05:09] <ColonelPanic001> I used to use Gnome for a long time. I can see preferring it.
[05:10] <Dial_tone> thanks, nick
[05:10] <maxy_noob> ok it's still not working
[05:10] <kunal> I got front & back panel AUDIO connectors, back panel works fine Front panel does not
[05:10] <gdb> Does anyone know offhand if the openlook suite has been packaged for Ubuntu anywhere?  Not just olvwm, but the entire suite with cmdtool, shelltool, meminfo, etc?
[05:10] <maxy_noob> I'm guessing I have to put the path (to my desktop)
[05:10] <disinterested_pe> windows asks if its ok to crash
[05:10] <regeya> VitaminG: dont...make fun...of you...ok.  got it.  if I ever feel the need to make fun of you for choosing a particular free desktop, I'll refrain.
[05:10] <nickrud> disinterested_pe, yes, tell it yes, then bury it :)
[05:11] <maxy_noob> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\alchohol120_trial_1_9_5_3823.exe": Module not found
[05:11] <maxy_noob> the file is on my desktop
[05:11] <maxy_noob> I don't know how to put the path to it.
[05:11] <nickrud> only thing worse than windows is wine
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> you need to move it to the ~/.wine/c folder
[05:11] <VitaminG> my main gripe with KDE is that the panel seems too busy for my taste. My introduction to KDE was Knoppix, then Mepis.
[05:11] <bimberi> nickrud: amen
[05:11] <maxy_noob> oh, thanks nom
[05:11] <VitaminG> then again, that's just my 2 cents
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> maxy_noob,  i doubt if that program will run well under wine.
[05:12] <VitaminG> nickrud: and maybe cups
[05:12] <nickrud> bimberi, heh. seen bob2 recently, by any chance?
[05:12] <bimberi> maxy_noob: try 'wine $HOME/Desktop/alchohol120_trial_1_9_5_3823.exe'
[05:13] <distanceisdeath> how do you delete stuff from folders without permission
[05:13] <nickrud> VitaminG, I love cups, especially the new web interface I see in dapper
[05:13] <maxy_noob> I don't see a c folder
[05:13] <maxy_noob> i.e in the wine directory
[05:13] <phoghawk> distanceisdeath, you can change the file permissions
[05:13] <distanceisdeath> how
[05:13] <maxy_noob> (God I feel like such an idiot using Linux!)
[05:13] <phoghawk> distanceisdeath, type "sudo chmod 777 -R foldername"
[05:13] <phoghawk> maxy_noob, we all did at one point
[05:13] <distanceisdeath> okay thanks
[05:13] <phoghawk> I still do
[05:13] <bimberi> nickrud: nope, he hasn't connected since December
[05:14] <mcpowley> gosh, ubuntu's community is unrivaled, i can't believe the support
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> maxy_noob,  learn linux and use linux. :P why are you messing with wine  heh heh
[05:14] <nickrud> bimberi, ah, well.
[05:14] <chapium> does anyone know how to adjust the resolution for the tty?
[05:14] <phoghawk> distanceisdeath, that will only change the permissions, then you'll still have to delete the things
[05:14] <phoghawk> what does tty mean?
[05:14] <VitaminG> nickrud: I'll have to check that out, I haven't upgraded from breezy yet.
[05:14] <maxy_noob> Dr_Willis: because Linux doesn't have a program to mount the image I'm trying to mount
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> maxy_noob,  or it can and you dont know of it yet. :P   what are ya trying to mount?
[05:15] <nickrud> VitaminG, it has a really useful printer config screen now
[05:15] <dumbledore> hi im having a problem with the install stuff
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> maxy_noob,  i would be VERY suprised if alcohol120% or that Deamon-tools worked under wine.
[05:15] <nickrud> dumbledore, so wave the wand :)
[05:15] <dumbledore> it repartitioned my drive like i asked but now my other drive is acting very slowly :/
[05:15] <bimberi> phoghawk: TeleTYpe (an old form of terminal)
[05:15] <maxy_noob> still getting the error message :(
[05:16] <phoghawk> bimberi, thanks
[05:16] <georgeguitar> anyone know what this error means: undefined reference to 'Gnome:Bonobo::wrap_init()'?
[05:16] <maxy_noob> wine: cannot find '/Desktop/alcohol120_trial_1_9_5_3823.exe'
[05:16] <VitaminG> nickrud: maybe that will help me get my Lexmark running. Of course, I have to buy a new ink cartridge first. That'll cost me $35.
[05:16] <nickrud> dumbledore, but seriously, what do you mean, acting slowly
[05:16] <dumbledore> ie it took about 5 minutes to load windows
[05:16] <nickrud> VitaminG, oh, lexmark. No bets from this corner
[05:17] <dumbledore> whereas it usually takes like 30 seconds
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> maxy_noob,  try downloading  and installing a simple program first..  or try wine ./Alcohol-whatever.exe if you have cd'd to the desktop
[05:17] <dumbledore> and i tried to run my defragger but it times out :/
[05:17] <nickrud> dumbledore, oh. Well I don't have a windows install really, so I can't help there
[05:17] <dooglus> georgeguitar: it means you're missing a library package
[05:17] <dumbledore> :/
[05:17] <dooglus> georgeguitar: what are you trying to run?
[05:17] <Dr_Geek> maxy_noob..........just use GnomeBaker
[05:17] <maxy_noob> Looks like Dr Willis was right
[05:17] <dumbledore> it's weird tho since i only told it to change my secondary drive
[05:18] <maxy_noob> "Unable to initialize Alcohol 120 setup"
[05:18] <dumbledore> i assumed my primary ide would be left unscathed
[05:18] <nickrud> dumbledore, but, a lot smarter people drop in an out here, ask about every 10 minutes
[05:18] <dumbledore> sounds like spam
[05:18] <maxy_noob> Ok, I'll try GnomeBaker
[05:18] <VitaminG> I can at least try, since the printer was free. And it works well under windoze. Now I can't wait to upgrade to Dapper, I'm hoping to do it tomorrow.
[05:18] <dumbledore> :/
[05:18] <VitaminG> good luck, moxy_noob.
[05:18] <nickrud> VitaminG, try looking at llnuxprinting.org for info for your printer
[05:19] <KanRiNiN> ok, mouse seems to be configured.  How do I restart X or gnome to see if it works?
[05:19] <KanRiNiN> ctrl alt back?
[05:19] <nickrud> KanRiNiN, log out first! then ctl-alt-backspace
[05:19] <phoghawk> Here's my question: I just installed a new 200 Gb HDD. I partitioned it in gParted, and I mounted them by using the "Disks" option in the System -> Administration menu. Both of the mounted partitions belong to the root user, and I can't do anything with them. I tried changing the permissions and user through a "sudo nautilus", but that didn't work. I tried to use my basic understanding of "sudo chown" but that didn't work. Can someone h
[05:19] <phoghawk> elp me?
[05:19] <navaburo> hello, have libxine-extracodecs and mplayer been removed from the universe/multiverse?
[05:19] <nickrud> navaburo, no
[05:19] <maxy_noob> ok, installed it Dr_
[05:20] <maxy_noob> Geek
[05:20] <navaburo> i am following the restricted fromat wiki...
[05:20] <maxy_noob> what now?
[05:20] <maxy_noob> load, convert, etc?
[05:20] <phoghawk> navaburo, are you sure you have those repositories enabled?
[05:20] <dooglus> phoghawk: run "mount" in a terminal.  paste one of the relevant lines here.
[05:20] <chapium> does ubuntu use framebuffer or svga for the tty's?
[05:20] <navaburo> phoghawk: yes
[05:20] <RizCk> im using ubuntu and GDM doesnt work it doesnt start at boot how do i make it start at boot?
[05:20] <nickrud> navaburo, could you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:20] <phoghawk> dooglus, will do, hold on
[05:20] <Snoops> Hey, umm.. I'm looking for a program which can grab all my old emails from ms outlook 2003 and insert into itself.
[05:21] <dooglus> RizCk: in a terminal, run "ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*gdm" - what do you see?
[05:21] <Dr_Geek> gnome baker will do all the burning you need...............just read the help files
[05:21] <phoghawk> dooglus, here are the two relevant lines: /dev/hdb2 on /media/extra type vfat (rw) {new line} /dev/hdb1 on /media/windows type vfat (rw)
[05:21] <RizCk> izck@RizCk-Eth0:~$ ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*gdm
[05:21] <RizCk> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-06-04 10:19 /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm -> ../init.d/gdm
[05:21] <RizCk> rizck@RizCk-Eth0:~$
[05:21] <maxy_noob> I tried to import the image
[05:21] <Aeo> Snoops: Try exporting your emails onto a CD or other media and then loading it into the program you want
[05:21] <maxy_noob> into GnomeBaker
[05:21] <maxy_noob> and I got a mother of an error message
[05:21] <navaburo> phoghawk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15629
[05:21] <maxy_noob> Error getting session information.
[05:21] <kiroh> hi ... can everyone help me whith the totem video player????
[05:22] <AJ004> man
[05:22] <dooglus> phoghawk: the "rw" means they're mounted "read/write" - that's good.  I was thinking you might see 'readonly' - so it's not that...
[05:22] <chapium> kiroh: whats up with it
[05:22] <phoghawk> navaburo, is that just a tip, or do you want me to paste something there
[05:22] <AJ004> a bank wanted me to give out my SS # to them in an email for me to reset my password
[05:22] <maxy_noob> Dr_Geek?
[05:22] <Snoops> I can access my windows partition on my ubuntu install though Aeo
[05:22] <Dr_Geek> yes
[05:22] <kiroh> i cant see ani video
[05:22] <AJ004> oops wrong channel
[05:22] <nickrud> navaburo, add multiverse to lines 17 & 18
[05:22] <AJ004> sorry
[05:22] <navaburo> phoghawk: i thought i sent you the link to my post
[05:22] <RizCk> dooglus, so?
[05:22] <dooglus> phoghawk: look at /etc/fstab - or better, pastebin it
[05:22] <maxy_noob> What should I do with GnomeBaker and this image I would like to mount?
[05:22] <phoghawk> oh, my bad
[05:23] <kiroh> i only can hear the sound of the movie
[05:23] <Andross> maybe phoghawk needs to add user to the options section of his fstab
[05:23] <navaburo> thanks, i could have sworn multiverse was int here
[05:23] <dooglus> RizCk: the 'S' means it *does* get started when you boot...
[05:23] <kiroh> it is an .avi file
[05:23] <Aeo> Snoops, sorry, Outlook is slow tonight
[05:23] <nickrud> navaburo, it is, but only in backports
[05:23] <chapium> !tell kiroh about restrictedformats
[05:23] <RizCk> it doesnt start
[05:23] <Dr_Geek> read the help files that came with GnomeBaker
[05:23] <dooglus> RizCk: how are you running X Windows now?  using startx?
[05:24] <phoghawk> Andross, dooglus, my /etc/fstab doesn't list my new partitions
[05:24] <Snoops> Aeo thanks.. you can export your emails in a backup archieve file.. but I don't know of any email programs in linux which support it
[05:24] <phoghawk> but I'll pastebin them
[05:24] <tarvid> are labels broken in openoffice? i can't insert the field "next record"
[05:24] <maxy_noob> The image isn't an iso, btw.
[05:24] <navaburo> I have found a glitch... i resynched my clock and now i cannot sudo. i get sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun 13 02:52:17 2006
[05:24] <Aeo> Snoops: Mozilla Thunderbird should
[05:24] <nickrud> navaburo, bet fix is a reboot
[05:24] <chapium> kiroh: it can probably play some video, but mostly hippie open formats
[05:24] <Aeo> Snoops: Ooh, scratch that
[05:24] <dooglus> phoghawk: oh, ok.  you should add them then.  I don't know the gui, but I would have expected it to edit /etc/fstab for you.
[05:24] <phoghawk> navaburo, what were the packages you wanted to install, I'll see if I have them
[05:24] <maxy_noob> it's mdf
[05:24] <RizCk> dooglus, yez
[05:25] <navaburo> phoghawk: mplayer and libxine-extracodecs
[05:25] <phoghawk> navaburo, okay, hold on
[05:25] <dooglus> RizCk: if you close X, go back to a virtual terminal, and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart", does it work?
[05:25] <RizCk> dooglus, nop
[05:25] <phoghawk> dooglus, do you have any idea what the <dump> and <pass> sections mean in the fstab
[05:25] <nickrud> navaburo, not to beat a dead horse, but I've written much about those. Follow my advise
[05:25] <maxy_noob> I guess there's no way to read this image created by Alcohol.
[05:25] <n73n53> is this the channel for newbie help?
[05:25] <Snoops> The program I import them into, I really want to be able to export all my account info as well as emails from it, in the future.. so if you know of a program which does that Aeo :)
[05:25] <Dr_Geek> brb
[05:26] <RizCk> * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                     [ ok ] 
[05:26] <RizCk>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [fail] 
[05:26] <RizCk> brb
[05:26] <RizCk> let me try
[05:26] <Snoops> RizCk sudo..
[05:26] <dooglus> phoghawk: "man fstab" will tell you for sure.  it's to do with the order of mounting, and whether to check them, maybe?
[05:26] <phoghawk> dooglus, cool, thanks
[05:26] <navaburo> nickrud: gotcha
[05:26] <Aeo> Snoops: I know of the Outport program <http://outport.sourceforge.net/> which says it converts to Evolution, though I have no knowledge of it myself.
[05:27] <Snoops> err what about exporting from evolution?
[05:27] <Aeo> Snoops: Oh frick!
[05:27] <dooglus> Snoops: evolution uses mbox format for its messages, same as outlook express I think
[05:28] <Aeo> Snoops: No mail exporting, argh
[05:28] <phoghawk> navaburo, I have both of those, would you like me to pastebin my sources.list?
[05:28] <dereks> so i have a weird bug, when copying a huge file, the speed goes from full speed -> nothing -> fullspeed -> nothing -> etc
[05:28] <dereks> anyone know why
[05:28] <kiroh> but all the mostly all the videos in internet are in avi format ... i have downloaded the pakage for windows codecs, but it still not work ... sorry about my english
[05:28] <dooglus> dereks: speed of what?
[05:28] <navaburo> phoghawk: no, thanks anyway, i got it
[05:28] <phoghawk> navaburo, okay
[05:28] <dereks> the transfer
[05:28] <nickrud> I spent a day moving all my mail out of evolution into a maildir format, evo sucks for that
[05:28] <dereks> dooglus: across the netowrk
[05:29] <dooglus> dereks: could it be because your network connection is faster than your disk?
[05:29] <lastnode> what do i need to play mp3s in gstreamer?
[05:29] <KanRiNiN> !mousebuttons
[05:29] <lastnode> sorry
[05:29] <ubotu> mousebuttons is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[05:29] <lastnode> rhytm box
[05:29] <Snoops> man that totally sucks. Outlook stupidly doesn't let you export your account settings.. I have 10 email accounts.. so it's annoying to have to keep track of it all..
[05:29] <dooglus> dereks: so the network downloads a bunch, then waits while the disk catches up?
[05:29] <Andross> this is the entry i have in my fstab that allows my user to access a second mounted hard drive: /dev/hdc1       /home/andrew/Storage/Music      auto    defaults,user,auto      0       0
[05:29] <dumbledore> hi im having a problem with the install stuff :/ (still)
[05:29] <dereks> dooglus: faster than sda? it is only going 12mbit
[05:29] <Snoops> I hope thunderbird isn't as terrible
[05:29] <Andross> then as root mount -a will mount anything in the fstab
[05:29] <dereks> dooglus: i meant sata
[05:29] <maxy_noob> It's such a Windows world, isn't it?
[05:29] <Andross> if that makes any sense
[05:29] <nathanael> how do I add my newly installed sshd to the default runlevel?
[05:30] <cge> maxy_noob: How so?
[05:30] <dumbledore> it repartitioned my drive like i asked but now my other drive is acting very slowly :/
[05:30] <dooglus> dereks: it's not that then...
[05:30] <dereks> dooglus: :) i am using scp to transfer
[05:30] <nickrud> nathanael, if you used the ubuntu package, it's already there ...
[05:30] <dereks> could that mean anything?
[05:30] <nathanael> ok
[05:30] <nathanael> shanks
[05:30] <cge> nathanael: You can use System/Administration/Services if it isn't.
[05:30] <maxy_noob> everything's simply made for it, and it's so easy to use.
[05:30] <dooglus> dereks: how's the CPU load looking on the machine if you watch it with 'top -d .5' while transferring?
[05:30] <maxy_noob> I'm really not a windows fanboy either.
[05:30] <Aeo> Snoops: I have final options.
[05:30] <maxy_noob> It's just a sigh.
[05:30] <nathanael> I had to switch to FC5 on my laptop for work reasons, and I miss the ubuntu community in the good 'ol IRC
[05:31] <dereks> dooglus: not too bad ... .75
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> nathanael,  just install some RH themes. :P
[05:31] <Aeo> Snoops: First, you can try this <http://sourceforge.net/projects/ol2mbox> which should convert PST to MBOX, which TBird can import
[05:31] <nathanael> haha
[05:31] <nickrud> nathanael, you saying fedora is not nice ?
[05:31] <dooglus> dereks: scp uses more CPU than plain copying, due to the encryption, but it's nothing most modern CPUs can't handle
[05:31] <maxy_noob> Ubuntu's great, but there still so much to figure out before making any definitive move (at least for me)
[05:31] <dereks> dooglus: it is only using 29% of the allotted cpu (about)
[05:31] <cge> dooglus: I've found that it can be significantly slower in transferring though.
[05:31] <nathanael> nice, but it's the overwhelming sense of community with Ubuntu that gets me
[05:31] <Snoops> hmm okay thanks Aeo.. I guess thunderbird doesn't let you export your account details thouhg
[05:31] <nathanael> It's unreal
[05:32] <Aeo> Snoops: Second: You can get yourself a copy of Outlook Express which does convert to another format
[05:32] <kiroh> can every one help me using x-chat and totem??
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> maxy_noob,  it pays to learn the fundamentals of linux. and do lots of reading. :P and rereading.
[05:32] <dereks> cge: really? do you have the same problem i have?
[05:32] <nicoco> hi !
[05:32] <dooglus> cge: he's getting fast transfers, then nothing, then fast, then nothing - why would it be 'bursty' like that?
[05:32] <phoghawk> kiroh, what do you need help with?
[05:32] <Snoops> Aeo the idea is to move away from windows apps :)
[05:32] <nickrud> nathanael, you probably will never meet him, cuz he's gone: bob2 bootstrapped this channel
[05:32] <maxy_noob> I guess.
[05:32] <dereks> dooglus: exactly
[05:32] <Aeo> Hey nicoco!
[05:32] <cge> dooglus: No, I get stable somewhat-slow transfers.
[05:32] <nicoco> is there a way to install fglrx module without rebooting (from livecd) ?
[05:32] <Aeo> Snoops: I understand, but it's merely an intermediary between your Windows app and your Linux
[05:32] <dooglus> dereks: could it be that the other machine is having problems reading the file from its disk fast enough?
[05:33] <dereks> dooglus: it should be ok also, its on a PATA
[05:33] <nathanael> ?
[05:33] <cge> dooglus: DMA maybe?
[05:33] <dereks> cge: DMA?
[05:33] <nathanael> Well, thanks again all
[05:33] <dooglus> Direct Memory Access
[05:33] <kiroh> xchat and totem ... i have problems with totem, but i cant understand some things about this xchat, because it is the first time i use it
[05:33] <nickrud> nathanael, I've been reminising, you filt well
[05:33] <cge> dereks: Is dma enabled on the drive that is reading the file?
[05:33] <dereks> dooglus: what will that do for this though
[05:33] <KanRiNiN> hmm..completely screwed up the scroll wheel.
[05:33] <dereks> cge: how do i find out?
[05:34] <dragonseye78> Big prob...
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> kiroh,  notice the xchat help menu item? :P  heh
[05:34] <lastnode> anyone here got their shuffles working with gtkpod?
[05:34] <cge> dereks: With hdparm /dev/{DRIVE-NAME}
[05:34] <phoghawk> kiroh, I don't know a lot about it either, I just know how to type, press enter, and auto-enter peoples names
[05:34] <kiroh> how can i speak whit only one person?
[05:34] <nickrud> dragonseye78, ask, maybe, if you're lucky, someone has the answer
[05:34] <nickrud> kiroh, /msg <nick>
[05:34] <nicoco> i want to test if ubuntu works fine with my ATI before installing it ? anyone know a way to load ATI proprietary driver without rebooting ?
[05:34] <dooglus> kiroh: you need to register first, with nickserv, and then can "/query dooglus" to open a window to me
[05:35] <dragonseye78> I have multiple users set up, ATI 9800Pro, only my account gets decent FPS
[05:35] <dereks> cge: using_dma    =  1 (on)
[05:35] <phoghawk> dooglus, what's nickserv? lol
[05:35] <cge> nicoco: Do you need the closed driver? The open driver generally works very well.
[05:35] <kiroh> ok
[05:35] <cge> dereks: Hmm... that isn't it then.
[05:35] <nekostar> eh
[05:35] <nekostar> wish there was portage for ubuntu :/
[05:35] <kiroh> nickserv
[05:35] <nickrud> dragonseye78, you want to add your users to the video group probably
[05:35] <kiroh> esadafuhsdlj
[05:35] <dooglus> phoghawk: it's how you register your nickname here.  type "/msg nickserv register babababa" (where that last word is a password of your choice)
[05:35] <cge> nekostar: What do you mean? What feature do you need from portage?
[05:35] <nicoco> to be honest, i want to try XGL
[05:35] <kiroh> i will read the help first
[05:36] <phoghawk> dooglus, is there a particular reason you do that? just to retain your username?
[05:36] <cge> nicoco: Ah! I see.
[05:36] <PMantis> Is it reasonable to have a RAID5 software array mounted as / ?
[05:36] <nicoco> ;)
[05:36] <dragonseye78> Well, I have it set up for them to use 3d graphics... how else would you set that up?
[05:36] <nicoco> cge : so is there a way ?
[05:36] <dooglus> phoghawk: this network won't let you talk privately if you're not registered.
[05:36] <dereks> maybe its because xorg is using 50% of the cpu on the other machine (sshd using the other 50!)
[05:36] <phoghawk> dooglus, oh, okay, thanks
[05:36] <cge> dereks: That could be!
[05:36] <dooglus> phoghawk: but yes, it's a way of reserving your nick.  next time you log in, type "/msg nickserv identify babababab" to prove you're the same person.
[05:37] <dooglus> dereks: xorg doesn't usually use a lot of CPU - is the other machine running a heavy screensaver?
[05:37] <cge> nicoco: You might be able to install the driver on the LiveCD. I'm not sure.
[05:37] <dereks> dooglus: it shouldn't be
[05:37] <nickrud> dragonseye78, agpart is rw for root and the group video only, add your users to the group video
[05:38] <cge> dereks: Is it running Dapper?
[05:38] <dereks> cge: yea
[05:38] <cge> dereks: Gnome-screensaver does not properly detect when a screen is not being shown.
[05:38] <dooglus> dereks: what's on its X display that could be keeping xorg busy?
[05:38] <dragonseye78> I'll play with that,thanx
[05:39] <dereks> cge, dooglus: it was just a vnc session that i killed, xorg is off now and not hogging the cpu
[05:39] <dereks> same problem though
[05:39] <dereks> and the load averagei s going down a lot
[05:39] <syllogism> what is that web site that has the unofficial repositories listed?? - I completely forgot the name
[05:39] <nekostar> cge,
[05:40] <nekostar> the ability to easily compile correctly any piece of software i can think of.
[05:40] <dragonseye78> Just checked, all accounts are showing under "Video"
[05:40] <dooglus> dereks: can you try transferring a file using http, or ftp, or some other protocol?
[05:40] <nekostar> i literally would love a portage package
[05:40] <nickrud> dragonseye78, you might also want to consider adding them to the groups dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner for other access
[05:40] <pppoe_dude> syllogism, google "ubuntu source-o-matic" and click on first hit
[05:40] <cge> nekostar: Hmm... there is apt-get source, or apt-build.
[05:40] <syllogism> thanks
[05:40] <dereks> dooglus: i don't think its the protocol (plus i am transferring a huge file, don't want to stop it now
[05:41] <dooglus> dereks: if you "pkill -STOP scp", it will pause the transfer without killing it dead.  "pkill -CONT scp" will resume it
[05:41] <cge> dereks: Just start transferring some random file and see if it has the same behavior. Maybe from a different disk, if you can.
[05:42] <Stormy> is there a way to make apt use more than one thread for building applications on a dual processor machine?
[05:42] <cge> Stormy: what are you using to build?
[05:42] <dooglus> dereks: how's the CPU on the remote box now that xorg is behaving itself?  is sshd using 100% now?
[05:42] <nf4> do all linux torrent clients run in the background? when restart the shut down log shows "stopping torrent tracker"
[05:42] <Stormy> cge dual p3 1ghz 2gb ram
[05:42] <Stormy> and apt
[05:42] <PFA> can someone help me with wma support for xmms? i have already tried RestrictedFormats (i already have w32codecs) and the solution on the XMMS wiki page (404 error) andi even tried EasyUbuntu but it is still not working. and i am VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY SURE that the files are NOT DRMed.
[05:42] <nf4> as far as i know trackers are the server the the torrent is linked to
[05:42] <cge> Stormy: How do you build something with apt? You mean apt-get source, or apt-build?
[05:42] <Blue89> something very strange just happened
[05:42] <dooglus> nf4: it says that for me even though I uninstalled the bittorrent package.
[05:42] <Stormy> cge apt-get
[05:43] <dereks> cge, dooglus i just tried via ftp (not encrypted) same problem
[05:43] <Blue89> could anyone read what I wrote before?
[05:43] <dereks> cpu is fine now, load of 55
[05:43] <nf4> when i uninstalled bit torrrent that stoped
[05:43] <Aeo> Hey! Is it possible to use a floppy (or other removable media) to boot to Ubuntu? As in, I'd like to boot to XP if nothing is in the drive so that the rest of my family does not have to deal with a boot screen.
[05:43] <cge> dereks: Same disk?
[05:43] <scotty> is there anyway to make ubuntu use usernames like firstname.lastname?
[05:43] <dooglus> Blue89: I didn't see you say anything for a long time
[05:43] <nickrud> PFA, there are very recent wma formats that are not yet support, as I hear
[05:43] <dereks> cge, dooglus: source disk was the same (only one disc on the comp) remote disk was different
[05:43] <Stormy> cge alright nm, i'm just dumb sometimes i forgot deb's were binary
[05:43] <Blue89> dooglus, ty
[05:43] <Stormy> sorry cge
[05:43] <dooglus> scotty: you can use longer usernames if you like
[05:43] <nickrud> PFA, do you have a link to one that doesn't work?
[05:43] <nf4> it is odd becouse i dosnt show up under the system resources
[05:44] <scotty> when i tried to use that username on the install it got kinda ticked at me.
[05:44] <Blue89> I had a failed hibernation session, then my desktop environment was not opening
[05:44] <cge> Stormy: Oh - I see. You can actually build files using apt-get source, in which case you want to change the debian/rules file to use make -j NUM_OF_PROCS instead of make.
[05:44] <dragonseye78> jsut set up on some other groups, will try, thanx
[05:44] <PFA> nickrud: it is a bunch of files; none of my WMA files will work
[05:44] <dooglus> scotty: oh, I'm not sure whether dots are allowed in usernames.  I'm not admin on this box so I can't check
[05:44] <nickrud> scotty, periods are not acceptable in usernames I think
[05:44] <Snoops> Aeo there are boot managers on cd..
[05:44] <cge> scotty: I think periods are acceptable - one moment.
[05:44] <scotty> um...my corp. ldap uses them..
[05:45] <nf4> Aeo i know there are guides to flash cards that you can boot from
[05:45] <HedgeMage> Aeo: there are three main ways to do that: livecd (slow but requires the least work), dual boot but make windows the default in grub (medium work, requires enough hard drive space for both), or dual boot but let windows overwrite the MBR so linux won't boot without a boot floppy/cd/usb-drive/whatever
[05:45] <scotty> i think i kinda need that to login.
[05:45] <nickrud> PFA, it's hard to tell, without a hard file to compare
[05:45] <Stormy> cge yea but if i wanted source i'd be using gentoo
[05:45] <nf4> like ubs flash cards
[05:45] <dmb062082> any fix for kernel panic-not syncing: attempted to kill init!
[05:45] <babo> where would I find the crontab of a user, when the systems hd is mounted on to another file system ?  Where is user crontab stored ?
[05:45] <dmb062082> it really sucks, and is keeping me @ fedora
[05:45] <Blue89> I did a ctrl-alt-f1 to find the problem in a terminal, and for some reason, the desktop suddenly opened, and I was allowed to delete a locked file from my desktop. there is a permissions problem, right?
[05:45] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys:  I'm in ircII..when I logged out GDM locked up, and now I can't boot into gnome..ati drivers are fine, it's something I did to the mouse with imwheel package
[05:45] <nf4> or even the regular kind if you use a usb port
[05:46] <dooglus> KanRiNiN: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" help?
[05:46] <dmb062082> apt-get instal kdm
[05:46] <dmb062082> heh heh
[05:46] <cge> scotty: It works, but you have to use --force-badname when using adduser.
[05:46] <Aeo> Um, alright, I'd prefer it if no action were necessary (not even a Grub boot screen) unless I specifically want to boot into Ubuntu, at which point I'd insert some form of media.
[05:46] <AVATAREZ> hello, i have a problem. i have an intel video card (900 on acer travelmate) and the 1st time i play a video it works ok, but the 2nd time it has VERY high contrast
[05:46] <Blue89> I did sudo in the terminal, that must have allowed the desktop environment to show and delete that file
[05:46] <scotty> ah.
[05:46] <scotty> cge: so on the install, just make some regualr account, then create a new one when done?
[05:46] <nickrud> babo, /var/spool/cron/crontabs/
[05:46] <KanRiNiN> no, gdm won't start..I uninstalled the imwheel pacakage, and then it locks up
[05:46] <Aeo> So, HedgeMaze, I think your third option is the best. I'd still like to have Ubuntu reside on its partition, just inaccessible until I want it.
[05:46] <cge> scotty: Yes, if the install program won't let you.
[05:47] <nickrud> badnames, that will be easy to remember :)
[05:47] <KanRiNiN> how do I scroll up in ircII or change consoles?
[05:47] <scotty> cge: cool thanks!
[05:47] <HedgeMage> Aeo: In that case, partition the HD, install ubuntu on one partition, then install windows on the other (windoze will eat the MBR and take it over) just make sure to have an ubuntu boot disk handy for when you want to boot
[05:48] <dooglus> Aeo: that's possible, that's how I used to do it 10 years ago - the PC booted into windows unless I inserted the magic linux boot cd.
[05:48] <cge> scotty: There is the possibility that something will break, but I have found that names with strange chars are generally stable. I've even used one with a | in the name and a tab in the password. Everything worked except GDM, which is broken with regards to password entry :)
[05:48] <scotty> :P
[05:48] <dooglus> Aeo: I don't know how you would make such a boot disk for ubuntu though.  (and I meant 'floppy', not 'cd')
[05:49] <scotty> cge: so is that indicative of an MS domain controller or something?  the dot name thing?
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> q
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> q
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> q
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> asdf
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> help
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> Q
[05:49] <Aeo> HedgeMaze: I already have both installed and would prefer not to have to reinstall Windows or touch that partition at all. I know that the DOS fixmbr command will accomplish the same thing. How do I make an ubuntu boot disk? I wouldn't be the same as a Live CD, would it?
[05:49] <dooglus> KanRiNiN: the pgup key
[05:49] <cge> Aeo: Install GRUB on a disk (you can probably get disk images off the internet), and then add the menu.lst from /boot.
[05:49] <Aeo> dooglus: That's exactly what I would like to have happen.
[05:50] <cge> scotty: I'm not sure.
[05:50] <cge> KanRiNiN: ? And running as root?
[05:50] <KickStand> can somebody help me get my resolution beyond 1024 * 768
[05:50] <dooglus> cge: he left...
[05:50] <cge> dooglus: I know.
[05:51] <AVATAREZ> help?
[05:51] <nickrud> KickStand, sure, you probably need to fix your resolution in xorg.conf, see !fixres below for the web page
[05:51] <nickrud> !fixres
[05:51] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:51] <planetcall> hey thanks peeps I just resized my /
[05:51] <KickStand> what do you mean?
[05:51] <HedgeMage> Aeo: I think the livecd can also be used as a boot disk, I know the text-mode CD can... otherwise you can always tell grub to install itself on a removable disk.  What version of windows is it? some have a "repair" utility that will take over the MBR without having to re-install the whole OS
[05:51] <dooglus> KickStand: he means read what ubotu said
[05:52] <KickStand> ah now I see thankn you
[05:52] <planetcall> Amarok is not playing MP3. What else is needed ?
[05:52] <KickStand> thank you that is
[05:52] <HedgeMage> Aeo: (BTW, I'm a maGe, not a maZe, so I don't get highlighted when you type "hedgemaze")
[05:52] <nickrud> KickStand, hm. Ubuntu tries to read your monitor and get the best config for it, the web page makes up for it's lack
[05:52] <Aeo> HedgeMage: It's XP, and I've already used the "fixmbr" command as I've encountered a GRUB error 21 earlier tonight.
[05:53] <Aeo> HedgeMage: And my apologies.
[05:53] <Aeo> cge: That definitely sounds like it'll work, but could you elaborate more on adding the menu.lst?
[05:53] <kiroh> can everyone help me with totem ... i cant see .avi files
[05:54] <HedgeMage> Aeo: I haven't done it on XP, sorry, fixmbr should do it though, I think
[05:54] <nickrud> planetcall, are you using 5.10 or 6.06 ?
[05:54] <DShepherd> kiroh: kiohttp://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[05:54] <rendo> kiroh: Have you installed the codecs?
[05:54] <planetcall> 6.06
[05:54] <mcpowley> does anyone have experience using thunderbird for gmail? I get a timeout whenever trying to connect to pop.gmail.com
[05:54] <cge> Aeo: I think the disk should be mountable. If it is, you can just add the menu.lst from /boot/grub/ on the hard drive onto the floppy.
[05:54] <nickrud> planetcall, install libxine-extracodecs
[05:55] <Aeo> cge: Do I also install GRUB on the floppy? In what directory should I put menu.lst?
[05:55] <acidjedi> !flash
[05:55] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:56] <DShepherd> kiroh: that link helps you?
[05:56] <nickrud> planetcall, you will need to enable the multiverse repo, if you haven't type !multiverse in this channel for instructions
[05:57] <cge> Aeo: if you search for the GRUB website, there are floppy disk images there. I think you should be able to mount the floppy disk after writing the image, and make a grub directory, and put menu.lst in it. But I'm not completely sure.
[05:57] <planetcall> nickrud,  thanks bro. it helped :)
[05:57] <nickrud> planetcall, all is good then :)
[05:58] <ardy> hello everybody
[05:58] <planetcall> nickrud, unfortunately I also have some wma/wmv  files. any extra codec/lib for that ?
[05:58] <ardy> !help How to download torrent file using wget command ?
[05:58] <DShepherd> nickrud: you using kde?
[05:58] <lwizardl> planetcall, win32 codec
[05:58] <garryfre> Well, I finally got dapper to boot from /dev/hdd1 and yet, the device.map file has drives pointing to seemingly correct drives but it doesn't seem to effect grub, hd1 is pointed to hd3 but I had to change the default root in menu.lst to hd3,1. Its as if it's ignored. Any ideas?
[05:58] <nickrud> planetcall, also install w32codecs. See !restricted for that
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> ardy,  you mean the file.torrent ? or the Data torrent it is to download?
[05:58] <nickrud> !restricted
[05:58] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[05:58] <planetcall> i dont see it in synaptic
[05:59] <x0rion> hello
[05:59] <planetcall> k
[05:59] <nickrud> planetcall, it isn't, because ubuntu cannot distribute it
[05:59] <x0rion> is there any1 who coild help me get a duplex sound :(
[05:59] <DShepherd> nickrud, planetcall I found it in apt
[05:59] <planetcall> k
[05:59] <ardy> Dr_Willis, Data torrent to download
[06:00] <Paladine> k got it working :)
[06:00] <planetcall> DShepherd, whats it exact name ?
[06:00] <Aeo> cge and HedgeMage: Thank you for your time. I'll try it in the morning.
[06:00] <cge> Aeo: Good luck.
[06:00] <DShepherd> planetcall:  w32codecs
[06:00] <nickrud> DShepherd, well , you have non official sources :) I'm thinking about just putting plf into restricted formats, it seems pretty stable
[06:00] <Paladine> how on earth does one enable a second grfx card and second monitor?
[06:00] <rendo> planetcall You can look into easyubuntu or automatix to automatically install them for you.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> ardy,  you use a torrent client. not wget
[06:00] <HedgeMage> Aeo: np :)
[06:00] <garryfre> !twinview
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Paladine,  nvidia?
[06:00] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, garryfre
[06:00] <Aeo> cge and HedgeMage: If you'd like me to report with what I did (in case this interests you, perhaps), you can drop me an email address
[06:00] <Paladine> Dr, aye
[06:00] <DShepherd> nickrud: hmmm.. I think your right
[06:01] <Paladine> I have dual 6600GTs in this box
[06:01] <planetcall> DShepherd, I dont know why I dont see it in syn. I have almost all the repos activated :(
[06:01] <DShepherd> planetcall: check out restricted.. nickrud i think I downloaded the deb.. my bad
[06:01] <ardy> Dr_Willis, yes I want to download it without using GUI
[06:01] <DShepherd> planetcall: my bad.. i followed the wiki at restricted and downloaded the deb.. you can get it thru synpatic
[06:01] <DShepherd> planetcall: srry
[06:01] <garryfre> It has to do with setting up twinview. Not sure the best way to do that, but I would google for twinview and the version of ubuntu you are using.
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> ardy,  there are console based torrent clients.   3 of them that i can think of off hand.
[06:02] <cge> ardy: What do you mean without a GUI. In a terminal, or without any GUI?
[06:02] <DShepherd> planetcall: that's a cant*
[06:02] <KanRiNiN> nickrud: I'm back :-)  I got gdm to work again
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> ardy,  the original bittorrent has a no gui feature
[06:02] <planetcall> k
[06:02] <x0rion> anybody?
[06:02] <bill> mainline has a console client
[06:02] <nickrud> KanRiNiN, good on you :)
[06:02] <rendo> planetcall: EasyUbuntu and Automatix can install all the restricted codecs.
[06:02] <KanRiNiN> question:  when I use bum to deactivate a service, why does it immediately reactivate?
[06:02] <KanRiNiN> like bluetooth and nvidia kernel stuff?
[06:02] <KanRiNiN> I don't need that loading
[06:02] <planetcall> rendo I tried EasyUbuntu and didnt find it good enough. I will try to do it myself :)
[06:02] <garryfre> I don't know about duplex sound. Sorry.
[06:02] <bill> anyone else having googleearth crash all the time under dapper?
[06:02] <nickrud> nice tools, as long as you use them very early in your install from what I"ve seen.
[06:03] <cge> ardy: There is btdownloadcurses if you want a curses based interface, or btdownloadheadless if you really don't want any ui.
[06:03] <x0rion> :(
[06:03] <ardy> cge, Yes I want to download it using terminal
[06:03] <rendo> planetcall: It worked for me. :)
[06:03] <planetcall> :)
[06:03] <cge> ardy: You probably want to use btdownloadcurses then.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> i perfer rtorrent for the console
[06:03] <planetcall> DShepherd, please go to http://www.ddindia.gov.in/  and see if you can see the streaming video in the left side. I can hear only sound but no video
[06:03] <nickrud> planetcall, but, there's a two line procedure on restricted formats that works every time, all the time
[06:04] <planetcall> its a microsoft format stream.
[06:04] <ardy> cge, ok I make a try on it, but how to use command to download data torrent??
[06:04] <planetcall> nickrud, any link ?
[06:04] <cge> ardy: If you want to use btdownloadcurses, just do btdownloadcurses PATH_OR_URL_TO_TORRENT.
[06:05] <Bot_Builde1> question, how do normal people deal with sudo, in UI form?
[06:05] <rendo> I yell at it.
[06:05] <rendo> :P
[06:05] <Bot_Builde1> I can use bash for lots of stuff
[06:05] <nickrud> planetcall, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-16ea04e7e1ecd06555912ba3f470b56563cbd85d
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> Bot_Builde1, sudo su
[06:05] <hastesaver> where is the sudo log kept?
[06:05] <Bot_Builde1> but I've really NEEDED it before for normal tasks
[06:05] <cge> pppoe_dude: !? Why?
[06:05] <planetcall> nickrud you too have a view on the link above i provided to DShepherd
[06:05] <garryfre> I note that googleearth has a version for unix, but it doesn't say linux. Perhaps there isnt' one for linux, but for some sort of unix system
[06:06] <ardy> cge, where i can download btdownloadcurses?
[06:06] <pppoe_dude> cge, 'cause
[06:06] <hastesaver> garryfre, it works (somewhat) on my Dapper
[06:06] <cge> ardy: It should be installed by default.
[06:06] <rendo> ardy sourceforge probably
[06:06] <cge> pppoe_dude: There should never be a need to use sudu su. Use sudo -s or sudo -i.
[06:06] <acidjedi> !flash
[06:06] <garryfre> hastesaver Yep.
[06:06] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:06] <DShepherd> planetcall: it doesnt seem to be playing thru firefox.. but if I click it a new window opens and the mozilla mplayer tries to do something.. doesnt seem to be successful though
[06:06] <nickrud> planetcall, I get absolutely nothing from that site myself
[06:07] <rendo> Me either
[06:07] <pppoe_dude> cge, isnt sudo -s == sudo su
[06:07] <ardy> cge, is gnome-btdownload is same as btdownloadcurses?
[06:07] <cge> ardy: No.
[06:07] <nickrud> I'm using the totem plugin
[06:07] <garryfre> there is gksudo
[06:07] <disinterested_pe> i finally got ymessenger installed and how disapointing
[06:07] <KanRiNiN> Question:  what is the enterprise volume manager, and do I need it at boot?
[06:07] <cge> pppoe_dude: I don't believe so. sudo su runs two programs, whereas sudo -s only runs one.
[06:07] <pppoe_dude> i c
[06:08] <dooglus> pppoe_dude: "sudo su" runs 'su' as root, whereas "sudo -s" runs a shell as root
[06:08] <Aeo> cge: During installation, I'm presented with an option to install GRUB onto a floppy, but this results in an error. Do you think this is resolvable or would it be best to try the method we discussed earlier?
[06:08] <asdx> can i install xgl/compiz on the live cd?
[06:08] <B0m3r-> assalamualaiku wr wb
[06:08] <planetcall> DShepherd, nickrud  you should be able to hear the audio as I do. I cant see the video (using VLC) . Though, I can see audio,video on Windows
[06:08] <hastesaver> And sudo -i is even better
[06:08] <mcpowley> does anyone have experience with thunderbird and gmail? I always get a timeout when trying to connect to pop.gmail.com
[06:08] <cge> Aeo: I didn't know that was offered, but if it doesn't work, you probably should do what we discussed.
[06:08] <DShepherd> planetcall: nope.. nothing at all
[06:08] <rendo> mcpowley Does it always time out?
[06:08] <cge> KanRiNiN: You most likely don't need it.
[06:08] <Aeo> cge: Alright, thank you.
[06:08] <ardy> cge rendo , ok thanks
[06:08] <hastesaver> mcpowley, have you set the proper port number and everything? (I mean, did you follow Google's instructions exactly?)
[06:08] <dooglus> mcpowley: you have to use ssl connection
[06:08] <pppoe_dude> cge, dooglus true, but they pretty much perform the same task imo ;)
[06:09] <nickrud> planetcall, nothing.
[06:09] <Bot_Builde1> Well, I probably just take shortcuts
[06:09] <planetcall> you peeps have VLC ?
[06:09] <Bot_Builde1> like moving templates to my template directory without figuring out how to in OO
[06:09] <rendo> I use mplayer.
[06:09] <garryfre> I know that floppies are often quite unreliable. at Grubfarm they mention that since floppy drives are now only a tenth as reliable as they used to be.
[06:09] <nickrud> nou, it's time to add that one to my useless web players :)
[06:09] <KanRiNiN> cge:  what about mdadm, if it's only for RAID then I can turn it off too, right?
[06:09] <dooglus> pppoe_dude: you can use "sudo sudo sudo sudo su" if you like.  that "performs the same task" as well.  but why run the extra processes?
[06:09] <planetcall> DShepherd, nickrud   it didnt work with totem earlier but with VLC I can listen the audio atleast.
[06:10] <nickrud> erm planetcall s/nou/no/ and continue
[06:10] <planetcall> still dont know what is required for the video
[06:10] <rendo> codecs
[06:10] <nickrud> which one, though
[06:10] <rendo> I don't know. :P
[06:10] <acidjedi> Gah, I can't get sound in flash videos!
[06:10] <nickrud> heh
[06:10] <mcpowley> dooglus: Thanks, that fixed it
[06:10] <planetcall> rendo have a look  direct link to the stream -> http://164.100.51.209/DDLive
[06:11] <SAM_theman> Ok hommies I am back I still have the problem I can't bloodly seem to have Deskjet 3643 working....
[06:11] <rendo> Server times out for me planetcall
[06:11] <cge> KanRiNiN: I believe so, yes.
[06:11] <SAM_theman> *3653
[06:11] <nickrud> I think it's time to dust off mozplugger and experiment. That's 5 bad streams now.
[06:11] <acidjedi> ubuntu found my printer in 2 seconds, and my windows boot still can't, lol
[06:11] <dooglus> mcpowley: the tricky bit is getting the smtp connection to work as well, and the trick there is to tell it to use ssl as well, despite what the gmail help pages say!
[06:12] <KickStand> can somebody tell me how to find wahtthe bus id is for my video card
[06:12] <benplaut> how do i find out what kernel module provides my eth0?
[06:12] <rendo> SMTP needs to be your ISP server setting.
[06:12] <dooglus> rendo: I'm talking about configuring thunderbird to use gmail.com for sending mail
[06:12] <grndslm> KickStand, lspci should work
[06:12] <rendo> Through the gmail servers you mean?
[06:12] <crimsun_> benplaut: grep eth0 /var/log/dmesg
[06:12] <KickStand> thanks
[06:13] <planetcall> yes it seems server is down at the moment.  rendo
[06:13] <nickrud> KickStand, lspci, the stuff after the leading 0000: and prior to the .0
[06:13] <KickStand> what exactly is lspci grndslam
[06:13] <KickStand> ah list pci got it
[06:13] <Paladine> hehe that twinview setup looks a bit of a headache
[06:13] <ardy> !help, I'm always away from my home pc, but is there any solution that I can use to download torrent files from internet via ssh?
[06:13] <benplaut> thanks
[06:13] <dooglus> rendo: yes...  that way you get a backup of everything you send on gmail.com - searchable quickly, too
[06:13] <grndslm> yup
[06:13] <Paladine> I will give it ago when I am not over tired
[06:13] <rendo> You don't _have_ to do it that way though, that's only if you want the backups.
[06:14] <garryfre> Yep, I have succeeded in doing it, but I suggest backing up the xorg.conf file first.
[06:14] <dooglus> ardy: look at running 'screen'.  that's the solution you're looking for.
[06:14] <grndslm> anybody gotten gmailfs to work?
[06:14] <nickrud> dooglus, you send thru gmail?
[06:14] <dooglus> nickrud: I do
[06:14] <planetcall> DShepherd, can you tell me how big is W32Codec download file ?
[06:14] <nickrud> dooglus, ah, I'll look into that, thanks
[06:15] <KickStand> can anybody maybe tell me why my resolution isn't any higher then, I've been through the guides and gotten no success
[06:15] <Snoops> ardy not sure about ssh.. but you can setup azureus with a web interface, as well as torrentflux which is a php based torrent client :)
[06:15] <Paladine> garry, yeah I found an article on overclockerz.nz and some morestuff on krazypenguin
[06:15] <rendo> KickStand: Video card or Monitor maximums?
[06:15] <the_Kane> hey
[06:15] <dooglus> nickrud: server smtp.gmail.com, user dooglus@gmail.com (with the @g.c bit!), security: "use ssl"
[06:15] <KickStand> rendo: I need it up to about 1600x1200 and both card and monitor can handle it
[06:16] <rendo> KickStand: You sure your monitor can handle 1600x1200?
[06:16] <KickStand> yeahs it's a 20.1 inch wide screen
[06:16] <ardy> dooglus, running screen ?
[06:16] <nickrud> dooglus, thanks very much. I need a standalone server for mail real soon now
[06:16] <crafteh> how do i rerun the hardware auto-detection/configuration program that the installer uses?
[06:16] <the_Kane> QUESTION: i was just reading on how you can use a xbox 360 controller in dapper ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164040&highlight=xbox+controller ) but which controller is it? a normal xbox 360 controller... or the xbox 360 windows controller?
[06:16] <KickStand> rendo: yeah it's a 20.1 inch wide screen
[06:16] <planetcall> DShepherd, got it about 13.2 MB
[06:17] <DShepherd> planetcall: ok. kool
[06:17] <rendo> KickStand: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129379&postcount=21
[06:17] <grndslm> anybody gotten gmailfs to work??  seems like an awesome idea
[06:17] <KickStand> rendo : okay hold that though
[06:17] <dooglus> ardy: "screen" lets you connect to your PC from a remote location, run console programs, disconnect and leave them running, then connect again from a different location and re-connect, to see how they're going
[06:17] <ardy> Snoops, if I use web interface, then I can download files away from home to my home pc?
[06:17] <dooglus> ardy: that's exactly how I IRC.  I switched computers just now, but didn't leave this channel.
[06:18] <rendo> KickStand:  There's a few things there.
[06:18] <dooglus> ardy: 'cos I have irssi running inside screen
[06:18] <Bot_Builde1> bah, OO can't handle switching from english to german
[06:18] <crafteh> how do i rerun the hardware auto-detection/configuration program that the installer uses?
[06:18] <ardy> dooglus, hmm.. sound interesting
[06:18] <Bot_Builde1> I switch it to german, and it switches itself back to english.  Would be nice to have spellcheck for my german project
[06:19] <kholerabbi> I want to remove wine - how?
[06:19] <nickrud> crafteh, it should run every time you boot
[06:19] <KickStand> I just want to say that linux takes a hell  of a long time to get working the way you want it to
[06:19] <rendo> kholerabbi: sudo apt-get remove wine
[06:19] <dooglus> ardy: install package "screen" if you don't have it already.  then run "screen" - you'll get a shell prompt back after a page of help
[06:19] <ardy> dooglus, so what program do u use?
[06:19] <dooglus> ardy: for torrenting?
[06:19] <nickrud> KickStand, that is true: it's strength because you have control, it's weakness because it expects you to be in control
[06:19] <kholerabbi> I tried that - but the .wine folder is still there, shouldn't it be deleted too?
[06:19] <ardy> dooglus, for screen
[06:19] <dooglus> ardy: if I want to download torrents inside screen I'll use btdownloadcurses
[06:20] <dooglus> ardy: except I don't, mostly, so I use azureus with a big heavy java gui
[06:20] <KickStand> yeah I know I understand. Over the course of the years I've tried various distros on various hardware and it just would never work
[06:20] <ardy> dooglus, I cant find any btdownloadcurses
[06:20] <crafteh> nickrud, the mappings for the right half of my keyboard are incorrect. my xorg.conf is correct though (using us mapping... I replaced the xorg.conf with a backup). the mappings are only incorrect in X. i can't fix it for the life of me
[06:20] <rendo> kholerabbi: I'm not sure if that gets removed or not.  Maybe a package with wine is still on.  Ask someone with more knowledge about removing it.
[06:20] <KickStand> at least ubuntu will install, previously it wouldn't even get that far for one reason or another
[06:21] <spikebike> the name changes with different versions of bit-torrent
[06:21] <dooglus> ardy: in a terminal, type "btdownloadcurses".  what happens?
[06:21] <kholerabbi> Ok thanks anyhow :)
[06:21] <spikebike> just look for what files are included
[06:21] <spikebike> anyone trying to get googleearth working?
[06:21] <yoshiznit123> hey, does anyone know of a minimal utorrent-like application for ubuntu that allows multiple downloads in one window? the default ubuntu bittorrent client pisses me off :-)
[06:21] <disinterested_pe> ubuntu is so much better than windows
[06:21] <lwizardl> is there a guide for configuring a full complete server using ubuntu for the os
[06:22] <nickrud> crafteh, I am not an expert in X by any means, and the keyboard? pfft, I know less about keyboards than anything in X.
[06:22] <spikebike> yosh btdownloadmany-curses
[06:22] <ardy> dooglus, I get feedback.. which give me lot of arguments
[06:22] <Bot_Builde1> disinterested - unless you want to play cool games
[06:22] <Bot_Builde1> :P
[06:22] <dooglus> ardy: well done.  you found it :)
[06:22] <Geotsai> how is ubuntu better than windows?
[06:22] <yoshiznit123> spikebike, any gtk-based? :-)
[06:22] <spikebike> azureus ;-)
[06:22] <rendo> lwizardl: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[06:22] <ardy> dooglus, oohh ... just like that
[06:22] <disinterested_pe> well i dont use the pc to play games lol
[06:22] <yoshiznit123> any non-java-bloated ones? :-)
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Geotsai,  this may be a better discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:22] <crafteh> nickrud, ok ;o
[06:22] <rendo> lwizardz: Has to do with running mainly as a server, DNS, mysql, etc etc
[06:22] <nickrud> crafteh, I suggest using System->Preferences->Keyboard, Tab Layout, and choose your keyboard model carefully
[06:22] <Bot_Builde1> Geotsai - Yeah, that's a giant topic
[06:23] <Geotsai> thanks
[06:23] <x0rion> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1131748 <:(
[06:23] <clusty> for some reason movies dont play fullscreen using gmplayer (in fullscreen more the image size remains contant). i dont have this problem with mplayer. any ide how to fix?
[06:23] <devians> we run breezy on a server here, and it would be rather bad for it to go down, is it worthwhile and safe to upgrade to dapper?
[06:23] <lwizardl> rendo, used that before and something was flawed last time i tried
[06:23] <dooglus> ardy: in the same terminal, type "btdownloadcurses http://snurl.com/dapper"
[06:23] <ardy> dooglus, then how to download torrent file?
[06:23] <dooglus> ardy: I answered just before you asked :)
[06:24] <rendo> lwizardl:  That's the only one I know of, sorry. :(
[06:24] <Bot_Builde1> hmm, can i set a folder in media (my USB drive) to be accessible by normal users
[06:24] <nickrud> perfec_setup, gotta read that one
[06:24] <yoshiznit123> xorion, you might need to set up something like ESD
[06:25] <x0rion> yoshiznit123: i tried all the thread about that duplex thing
[06:25] <x0rion> and i cant get it to work
[06:25] <x0rion> :|
[06:25] <ardy> dooglus, ok how if I close my terminal? is my downlod stop as well??
[06:25] <dooglus> ardy: if you didn't run screen first, yes
[06:25] <nickrud> ok, it uses su. Not perfect, just ideosyncratic
[06:25] <ardy> dooglus, how do I run screen? then
[06:25] <dooglus> ardy: but then, if you run the same command again, it will carry on where it left off
[06:26] <mcpowley> dooglus: I set up ssl for the smtp, and I sent a message, it said it was sent successfully(I sent it to my own email) but when I checked my mailbox, it was empty.
[06:26] <dooglus> ardy: screen btdownloadcurses http://snipurl.com/dapper
[06:26] <dooglus> ardy: um - not sure about that- just a mo.
[06:26] <rendo> mcpowley: Receive all
[06:26] <ardy> dooglus, hmm...
[06:26] <dooglus> ardy: I'll stop trying to be clever.
[06:26] <dooglus> ardy: just run "screen"
[06:26] <dooglus> ie. that's the command
[06:26] <dooglus> what happens?
[06:27] <rendo> Oh noz.
[06:27] <KickStand> yeah none of those webpages helped me for my video resolution
[06:27] <mcpowley> dooglus: I clicked get mail and nothing was there. What do you mean by receive all?
[06:27] <rendo> KickStand:  Did you try editing the xorg file like it suggested for manual resolution?
[06:27] <ardy> dooglus, it says click space to continue, after I clicked then noting happen?
[06:27] <dooglus> mcpowley: I didn't say "receive all"
[06:27] <KickStand> my resolution is screwed
[06:27] <dooglus> ardy: you get back to a shell, but now you're inside screen
[06:28] <KickStand> rendo: yeah but everything seems to check out in the xorg file
[06:28] <dooglus> ardy: hit control-a twice to tell if you're in screen or not
[06:28] <nickrud> KickStand, if you'd post /etc/X11/xorg.conf , /var/log/Xorg.0.log , lspci -v and sudo ddcprobe to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ I'll take a look
[06:28] <dooglus> ardy: if you are, you'll see a message about windows
[06:28] <dooglus> ardy: if not, nothing will happen
[06:28] <KickStand> nickrud: just post it to the channel here?
[06:28] <rendo> !pastebin
[06:28] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:28] <nickrud> KickStand, no, on  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:28] <KickStand> nickrud: okay got ya
[06:29] <KickStand> nickrud: yeah my bad
[06:29] <dooglus> mcpowley: did you set gmail up to work with POP?  it's in "settings"
[06:29] <nickrud> rendo, I do what I can do :)
[06:29] <dooglus> mcpowley: oh, if you mail to yourself, it won't come back.  gmail is clever enough to realise that you already have the message, since you sent it.
[06:29] <rendo> If I looked at it, I'd be like... Uh ya it's fine *shifty eyes*
[06:29] <devians> no answer to my question?
[06:29] <ardy> dooglus, yes I saw it
[06:30] <dooglus> ardy: so now run that btdownloadcurses command, inside screen
[06:30] <FunnyLookinHat> When I setup Samba sharing of two folders on one computer and i try to view them from windows I get prompted for a user/pass, and none seem to work...  ideas?
[06:30] <ardy> dooglus, ooo that is the rule.... I see
[06:30] <nickrud> KickStand, and if you'd be so kind as to put the log file in a separate pastebin, it's large :)
[06:30] <dooglus> ardy: the rule?
[06:31] <devians> FunnyLookinHat, you have to add the passwords to samba
[06:31] <FunnyLookinHat> devians,  but what if I want no passwords?  I just want it to be open access like windows allows...
[06:31] <ardy> dooglus, hehe
[06:31] <tripppy> whats the best file system to use with dapper? it will mainly be for downloads and 1+gig files.
[06:31] <devians> that would be a share setting
[06:31] <devians> allow guest
[06:31] <dooglus> ardy: now type control-a control-d
[06:31] <DavidJaq> I need to get rid of grub and replace it with my window's boot loader, but I can't boot from CD. I do have a floppy, however. Does anyone know how to do this using a floppy?
[06:31] <dooglus> ardy: that will "detach" the screen
[06:32] <rendo> FuunyLookinHat:  I want my wife to cook steak all the time and that never happens, maybe you'll have to learn to love passwords :P
[06:32] <devians> trippy, ext3 would be fine
[06:32] <dooglus> ardy: the download will continue to run
[06:32] <ardy> dooglus, ooo
[06:32] <dooglus> ardy: then open a new terminal window (from a hotel on the other side of the world, via ssh, if you like)
[06:32] <dooglus> ardy: and run "screen -r" <-- that means "re-attach".  you'll see your download, still running
[06:33] <PyroticShadow> Can anybody help me install Macromedia MX on Ubuntu Breezy Badger, using Wine?
[06:33] <devians> mmm much love for screen
[06:33] <ardy> dooglus, this is good man... I learned new things today
[06:33] <phoghawk> Hey, I just got a new HDD and made two partitions. It defaulted to belonging to root, and I can't change the permissions. Chmod appears to work, but it doesn't do anything. any ideas?
[06:33] <devians> ardy, screen is the single most usefull terminal prog
[06:33] <rendo> dooglus:  Are you talking about a way to see what another machine is doing?  Like a graphical look?
[06:33] <devians> learn to love it :D
[06:33] <nickrud> screen is evil, it takes people away from the desktop
[06:33] <phoghawk> PyroMithrandir, I think you can do that using Crossover office
[06:33] <dooglus> rendo: no, it's only for console programs
[06:33] <devians> haha nickrud. what if the boxen has no gui?
[06:33] <rendo> dooglus What exactly does it do?
[06:34] <nickrud> devians, then install it :)
[06:34] <dooglus> ardy: the other thing screen can do is run multiple programs at once.  type "control-a control-c" to create a new shell.  then "control-a control-a" will toggle between them.
[06:34] <devians> why bother when its only ever accessed via ssh
[06:34] <nickrud> devians, hyperbole is my middle name
[06:34] <rendo> Here's a question.
[06:35] <dooglus> rendo: it allows you to leave console programs running even after you close your terminal window
[06:35] <rendo> Did most of you learn crazy fancy things by hanging around channels like this?
[06:35] <devians> nickrud hyperbole _________________
[06:35] <devians> :P
[06:35] <dooglus> rendo: so if you travel a lot, you can occasionally check-in with your console programs running at home
[06:35] <rendo> dooglus: Ah.  So a startup script for a mud... :P  I see, fancy.
[06:35] <spikeb> rendo: i learned by breaking my system repeatedly and trying to fix it
[06:35] <phlexonance> good morning, can anyone here help me very fast to install ne latest opera?
[06:35] <rendo> Lol spikeb :P
[06:35] <devians> rendo, i learn most things by having a need and going a-googling and annoying my linux guru friends
[06:35] <nickrud> devians, it's nick hyperbole rude to be exact :)
[06:35] <KickStand> nickrud: how do i send this to you
[06:35] <devians> heh
[06:35] <grndslm> anybody here used gmailfs??
[06:36] <dooglus> rendo: I run this IRC session inside screen on a remote machine.  so I can turn my laptop off and stay here :)
[06:36] <spikebike> rendo works fine on redhat 8-(
[06:36] <nickrud> KickStand, if you put it on the pastebin, just give me the links
[06:36] <ardy> dooglus, so if i use btdownloadcurses to download 1 program then to download another program I can simply use this multiple screening program. right!
[06:36] <dooglus> yes
[06:37] <phoghawk>  Hey, I just got a new HDD and made two partitions. It defaulted to belonging to root, and I can't change the permissions. Chmod appears to work, but it doesn't do anything. any ideas?
[06:37] <KickStand> nickrud: okay here is the stuff minus the log file
[06:37] <KickStand> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15630
[06:37] <PyroticShadow> Can anybody help me install Macromedia MX, through Wine?..
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> phoghawk,  these are ext3 partitions?
[06:37] <phoghawk> dooglus, you were helping me with my HDD earlier, I tried adding things to the fstab, but nothing worked
[06:37] <phoghawk> Dr_Willis, they're fat32
[06:37] <phoghawk> Dr_Willis, they're identified as vfat in other places
[06:37] <dooglus> phoghawk: 5 mins...
[06:37] <phoghawk> dooglus, thanks ;)
[06:37] <phlexonance> I need a ftp client capable of scp, urgently
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> phoghawk,  eww. :P lol.. got to set up the fstab correctly then.
[06:37] <phoghawk> phlexonance, is gftp not?
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> phlexonance, gftp?
[06:38] <phlexonance> phoghawk, nope
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> phlexonance, sudo apt-get scp ?
[06:38] <DavidJaq> I want to uninstall Ubuntu and Grub so I can go back to just booting Windows XP, but I can't boot directly from CD... but I do have a floppy disk. Anyone know how I can use my floppy disk to boot from the Windows XP setup disc?
[06:38] <dooglus> phoghawk: use 'defaults' in the options
[06:38] <phoghawk> phlexonance, just search synaptic for FTP and try them all
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> lawl
[06:38] <phoghawk> dooglus, um, okay. Do I need to reboot after that?
[06:38] <phlexonance> FunnyLookinHat, I need a real browser so I can search through the ftp
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> oh.
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> good luck.  :-/
[06:38] <KickStand> nickrud: and here is the logfile http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15631
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Unsure of any options
[06:38] <dooglus> phoghawk: umount and mount is enough
[06:38] <PyroticShadow> DavidJaq, could just go into your BIOS, and select it to swap the CD to read first, before the Floppy, and it'll read the disk so you can format it.
[06:38] <nickrud> KickStand, eh. You didn't get any data about your monitor from ddcprobe. You're going to have to look up the exact specs for your monitor somewhere, hopefully from the manual that came with it.
[06:39] <KanRiNiN> OK I'm back.. Boots faster now.  Thanks guys.
[06:39] <klees> how can i make my mouse scroller switch workspaces???
[06:39] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay
[06:39] <KickStand> nickrud: i know the specs, I looked them up and put them into the xconf file
[06:39] <DavidJaq> PyroticShadow, My computer is working perfectly fine right now so I can do whatever to the floppy I want to do... but I completely lack the ability to boot from CD. Changing bios doesn't do anything for me.
[06:40] <rigonatti> does anyone now if I need to install something to run LimeWire ??
[06:40] <rendo> Java
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> rigonatti,  the official sun java
[06:40] <klees> anyone???
[06:40] <rendo> I'm looking klees.
[06:40] <m0zone> sup
[06:40] <grndslm> anybody know the difference between frostwire and limewire?
[06:40] <klees> (obviously in gnome)
[06:41] <FunnyLookinHat> Is there any way to allow VNC connections at the GDM login screen???
[06:41] <rigonatti> Dr_willis: how can i get that ?
[06:41] <nickrud> KickStand, a Dell 2005FPW  ?
[06:41] <PyroticShadow> DavidJaq, hmm..any particular reason why you are disowning Ubuntu?.. (curiosity), and also.. your bios should load the CD first if you select it, and then you can boot from the CD...and if that doesn't do anything, I'm nto smart enough to help ye' in another fashion without screwing something up, sorry.
[06:41] <m0zone> ones free and one u pay for it  also i think limewire trys and sell u crap    dont know just what i heard
[06:41] <ardy> dooglus, this is awesome... so I can now multiple download using screen and btdownloadcurse without stop whenever i close my terminal.. hehehe... thanks lot man.
[06:41] <duck> hey does anyone know how I can add the thingy to the panel that shows what programs i have running?????
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !java
[06:41] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[06:41] <rendo> klees: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79560.html
[06:41] <Fash> hey all, i followed this How-to to get my ati card to work, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but when i try fglrxinfo it turns up with the same old Mesa =/
[06:41] <KickStand> nickrud: yeah that's the one
[06:41] <Fash> am i missing nay steps?
[06:41] <Snowfairy_> I just formatted a 40gb drive as ext3, and it says something like 700mb is in use already?  Can anyone explain why this is?
[06:41] <nickrud> KickStand, an lcd, ok
[06:42] <rendo> Snowfairy_ Swap probably.
[06:42] <KickStand> nickrud: yes that is correct
[06:42] <klees> rendo, thx for the link i'll go read
[06:42] <phoghawk> dooglus, I still got nothin. I don't have permissions to write, and chmod does nothing
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> fairy,  5% reserved for root/system ussage perhaps
[06:42] <fairy> rendo, I didn't tell it to use swap.
[06:42] <FunnyLookinHat> !mount
[06:42] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[06:42] <fairy> Dr_Willis, even though it's an 'extra' drive?
[06:42] <DavidJaq> PyroticShadow I have really limited space and I need it right now so I want to go back to Windows XP since it has a program I use all the time (zMUD) that has no linux equivelant, can't be ran with wine, and my computer is too slow for vmware... and I mentioned this twice now... my computer simply can't boot from cd. It's too old and the bios is borked and there's no update for the bios
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> fairy,  its reserved on all drives.
[06:43] <fairy> DarkMageZ, try tintin :)
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> fairy,  if thats what is taking up the space..
[06:43] <fairy> Dr_Willis, that could be it then, thanks :)
[06:43] <fairy> As long as it's normal.  I don't mind.
[06:43] <fairy> Just didn't understand the 'why'
[06:43] <fairy> dur...
[06:43] <fairy> not darkmagez
[06:43] <nickrud> KickStand, I've helped three people with lcds, twice with success, once without. The one without had edidfail in the ddcprobe, which you have also.
[06:43] <fairy> DavidJaq, tintin is roughly equivalent to zmud.
[06:43] <grndslm> DavidJaq, if you have a spare computer...you could use the free VMware Server and VMware Player
[06:43] <DarkMageZ> fairy, was wondering why u said that to me :P
[06:43] <PyroticShadow> DavidJaq, Hmm... Do ye' have another CD-ROM?...or another computer Baha.
[06:44] <KickStand> nickrud: well fuck that sucks
[06:44] <mapez> Hey I was wondering where if anywhere on this channel you would go to find Computer Science career info.
[06:44] <FriendlySoviet> I'm unable to find the fstab command to mount an "ext3" partition at the beginning of boot, making it writable and readable users other than root. Can anyone help me out?
[06:44] <rendo> DavidJaq MudMagic CLient works well.
[06:44] <fairy> DavidJaq, I do think there's a decent gnome mud client as well.  I just can't think of what it was.
[06:44] <rendo> davidjaq: Has an ubuntu installer too.
[06:44] <DavidJaq> rendo, it doesn't have the mapper I want
[06:44] <phlexonance> good morning, can anyone here help me very fast to install ne latest opera?
[06:44] <rendo> DavidJaq: Meh.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> FriendlySoviet,  make a dir on the partition owned by the users.. so they can write to it. is what i did.
[06:44] <fairy> DavidJaq, Graph paper works :) (sorry, I know it's not helpful, I just despised Zmud's mapper, never worked for me ;) )
[06:44] <FriendlySoviet> Thanks Dr.Willlis
[06:44] <nickrud> KickStand, according to your Xorg.0.log, the max res that X sees is NVIDIA(0):     "1024x768" , but this is a 20 inch monitor, right?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> FriendlySoviet,   safer that way as well.
[06:45] <rendo> DavidJaq: Or you can install wine and try and emulate some windows clients.
[06:45] <fairy> DarkMageZ, nick completion went wonky on me :) and I wasn't paying attention, sorry. :)
[06:45] <KickStand> nickrud: yes 20.1 inch widesceen
[06:45] <PyroticShadow> So nobody can help me install macromedia mx, with wine?
[06:45] <rendo> DavidJaq: Mushclient works under wine.
[06:45] <DavidJaq> I love zmud's mapper. Works great for me. I can walk from one end of Discworld MUD to the other end, more than 50,000 rooms I walk through, automatically just by telling the map my starting location and ending location
[06:45] <kvasov> how come /proc/cpuinfo is showing a totally diferent speed than what my processor should be
[06:46] <dooglus> phoghawk: OK - I got my arms back...  I can help you now.  Still there?
[06:46] <nickrud> KickStand, if edid did not fail, I'd have a possible solution, but without that, I'm not sure.
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> kvasov,  and your processor is a ??.....
[06:46] <phoghawk> dooglus, yessir
[06:46] <kvasov> amd 64 3500+
[06:46] <DavidJaq> in any case, I don't want to stay with ubuntu right now. I just want it uninstalled and grub to be gone. I have no spare computers to use, my computer is unable to boot directly from CD because my bios is borked and there's no upgrades... all I have as an option is a floppy disk
[06:46] <dooglus> phoghawk: remind me of the ext3 line from fstab
[06:46] <KickStand> nickrud: crap...what the hell is edid anyway
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> kvasov,  and what # is it showing? and what are you expecting?
[06:46] <kvasov> it showed that i's 1000 Ghz and 3023 bogomips
[06:46] <crimsun_> phlexonance: wget "http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=28025,&location=131&nothanks=yes&sub=marine" http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs_6.8.2-77.1_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i xlibs_6.8.2-77.1_all.deb opera_9.0-20060518.5-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[06:46] <dooglus> phoghawk: the one that's not working
[06:46] <kvasov> and it should be 2010 Mhz
[06:46] <crimsun_> mmkay.
[06:47] <kvasov> i mean 1000 Mhz before
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> kvasov,  it could be throttling down
[06:47] <nickrud> KickStand, it's the report of the monitor of what it does
[06:47] <kvasov> why is it doing that
[06:47] <fairy> DavidJaq, with windows XP you can reformat and reinstall. then boot to repair mode off your winxp cd and do fixmbr
[06:47] <fairy> that should remove grub and ubuntu.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> kvasov,  its designed that way. :P slows down when not needed.
[06:47] <human> fairy, he can't boot from cd
[06:47] <phoghawk> dooglus, they're fat32 filesystems, I don't think I have any ext3s that aren't working
[06:47] <fairy> oooh
[06:47] <fairy> I missed that part.
[06:47] <dooglus> phoghawk: oh, I see.  both of them?
[06:47] <nickrud> KickStand, more correctly, the response from the monitor when queried about it's capabilites
[06:47] <FunnyLookinHat> !harddrive
[06:47] <phoghawk> dooglus, yep
[06:47] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[06:47] <DavidJaq> if I could put something on the floppy that would let me boot the cd, that'd work
[06:47] <petrik> Hi all. Is it possible to have an audio conversation with someone on windows MSN? Which program would I need?
[06:47] <phoghawk> dooglus, I can pastebin my fstab
[06:48] <rendo> petrik Gaim?
[06:48] <kvasov> what the heck. do amd64 throttle themselves?
[06:48] <fairy> DavidJaq, 'google boot floppy'
[06:48] <rendo> Does Gaim support audio?
[06:48] <dooglus> phoghawk: in that case, use "umask=0,user,auto" in the fstab for the options
[06:48] <fairy> If I remember right, you should even be able to find all flavors of windows boot floppies.
[06:48] <KickStand> nickrud: So does that mean that there is nothing I can do short of some kind of a patch or something?
[06:48] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay
[06:48] <kvasov> i do watch cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:48] <bkvjegy> Hello KickStand!
[06:48] <kvasov> it's at 1 GHz
[06:48] <bkvjegy> Hello kvasov!
[06:48] <bkvjegy> Hello rendo!
[06:48] <FriendlySoviet> Dr_Willis : Thank you very much. Works like a charm :)
[06:48] <rendo> petrik I think there's a program called aMSN.
[06:48] <bkvjegy> Hello phoghawk!
[06:48] <kvasov> start moving windows around and it becomes 2.2 Ghz
[06:48] <rendo> Uh Hello.
[06:48] <phoghawk> Hi bkvjegy, lol
[06:48] <bkvjegy> lol?
[06:49] <nickrud> KickStand, no, there's a thing called modelines you can add to the xorg.conf for controlling idiotic monitors. I'll look around for a bit.
[06:49] <bkvjegy> phoghawk, :-(
[06:49] <petrik> rendo, Both Gaim and aMSN don't seem to do audio
[06:49] <rendo> petrik Skype!
[06:49] <bkvjegy> Hello bkvjegy!
[06:49] <bkvjegy> Hello petrik!
[06:49] <DavidJaq> fairy, I've already done that. The floppy options for windows XP I find are one that bypasses the mbr entirely to boot windows xp and one that requires six floppies, but I only have three
[06:49] <rendo> petrik And use whatever messenging client for the IM part :P
[06:49] <bkvjegy> Hello Jaak_!
[06:50] <Fash> anyone particularly familiar with that nightmare we call fglrx?
[06:50] <phoghawk> bkvjegy, do I know you?
[06:50] <rendo> Speaking of Dell.
[06:50] <fairy> DavidJaq, I'd suggest a run to wal-mart ;) buy some new floppies ;)
[06:50] <klees> is there a ubuntu guide on installing/enabling fglrx??  (my card is Radeon 9800 Pro)
[06:50] <petrik> rendo, Skype doesn't work
[06:50] <rendo> I had an appointment today with social services and I had to outline my plan after college.
[06:50] <rendo> They wanted all this crappy details about it.
[06:50] <Fash> i tried following this guide, still mesa =/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-26e8b0d4be861a6b7c545dc21c45232f909d8ca2
[06:50] <phoghawk> dooglus, that appears to have worked. Thank you soooo much. You are a wonderful person.
[06:50] <rendo> Who are your competitors going to be?   Blah blah blah.
[06:50] <Jaak_> how do i create an partition from "free space not available" that can be used by ubuntu and windows
[06:51] <mystamax> hello, Everytime I go to Applications -> Add/Remove The program starts, begins to look for installed applications, but never shows up??? I'm not really sure why..... Any help
[06:51] <Fash> !ati
[06:51] <ubotu> I guess ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[06:51] <rigonatti> Does anyone know why LimeWire dont Run..even after install Official JAva from Sun?
[06:51] <neophiter> If I wanted to add the regular Ubuntu Desktop to the Server edition, what all would I need to do?
[06:51] <DavidJaq> "After college I intend to become ritch and I'm going to buy you as my slave. Lick my boots now as practice and I shall pay you well later."
[06:51] <rendo> rigonatti Did you install it through synaptic or apt?
[06:51] <dooglus> phoghawk: you're welcome.  it's the "umask=0" that did it.  the "auto" means "mount at boot" and the "user" means "let users mount it without sudo'ing"
[06:51] <bkvjegy> Hello ubotu!ubotu
[06:51] <bjones> how do I configure dapper drake to use my wide aspect LCD monitor?
[06:51] <mystamax> rigonatti: try running limewire from the command line and see what it says
[06:51] <phoghawk> dooglus, what does the umask mean?
[06:51] <nickrud> KickStand, here's a sample xorg.conf, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-January/012156.html . let me know when you're looking
[06:51] <bkvjegy> Hogy vagy kedves [zero] , mi szel hozott?
[06:51] <pppoe_dude> !love
[06:51] <rigonatti> Java from Apt.... LimeWire from a rpm pack with alien
[06:51] <ubotu> Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath.  At night, the ice weasels come.
[06:51] <bkvjegy> Hogy vagy kedves bkvjegy, mi szel hozott?
[06:51] <pppoe_dude> oops
[06:52] <KickStand> nickrud: Yeah I'm looking
[06:52] <dooglus> phoghawk: it means to make the mounted stuff have '777' permission if available...
[06:52] <RancidLM> bjones: it should auto detect a wide screen when you first install, did u just replace a regular monitor with ur widescreen one?
[06:52] <rigonatti> "You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x"
[06:52] <dooglus> phoghawk: kind-of.  "man umask" will help.
[06:52] <phoghawk> dooglus, lol, I'll check that out. Thanks a bunch
[06:53] <dooglus> phoghawk: I use "noauto,user,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=1000,codepage=850" for my vfat mounts.  I don't know why - it's been like that for years.
[06:53] <bjones> ?
[06:53] <phoghawk> now that my HDD problems are solved, I can move onto more important things. I think an ant just bit my testicles
[06:53] <dooglus> phoghawk: maybe you want to set a charset or codepage though?  I don't know...
[06:53] <rigonatti> mystamax: "You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x"
[06:53] <spikeb> hahahahahah
[06:53] <nickrud> KickStand, see the modeline under Section "Modes" that is uncommented? (no # preceeding)
[06:53] <phoghawk> dooglus, I don't know what either of those are
[06:53] <dooglus> phoghawk: the "uid-1000" bit makes the files look like they're owned by me, rather than by root
[06:53] <dooglus> uid=1000, that is.
[06:53] <phoghawk> dooglus, cool, I want that. I'll add it
[06:53] <KickStand> nickrud: yes I do
[06:54] <dooglus> phoghawk: type "id" in a terminal to find out what your userid is
[06:54] <rendo> Where do I set HD space for users?
[06:54] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay
[06:54] <dooglus> phoghawk: it's 1000 for the first user created, 1001 for the 2nd, etc.
[06:54] <bjones> RancidLM: I installed with the wide aspect monitor connected.  It did not autodetect.
[06:54] <phoghawk> dooglus, mine is 1000 too
[06:54] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay
[06:54] <rigonatti> mystamax:    "You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x"
[06:54] <dooglus> mine is 501, 'cos I migrated from mandrake linux and didn't want to change all my files to be uid 1000
[06:55] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay, what are the charset and codepage things?
[06:55] <dooglus> phoghawk: it's to do with "funny foreign letters"
[06:55] <nickrud> KickStand, gotta step out for less than 5 minutes. brb
[06:55] <RancidLM> bjones: wierd i have a laptop and ubuntu 5.10 and 6.06 both auto detected a wide screen.. have u looked int your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for your resolution settings?
[06:55] <phoghawk> dooglus, is it a big deal if I don't use those frequently?
[06:55] <HedgeMage> RancidLM: long time no see :D
[06:55] <dooglus> phoghawk: no
[06:55] <KickStand> nickrud: okay
[06:56] <RancidLM> HedgeMage: OMG! HedgeMage !!!!
[06:56] <rendo> Where do I go to set HD space for users?
[06:56] <dooglus> phoghawk: it's only to do with 'funny foreign letters' in filenames, anyway.  file content will be fine either way.
[06:56] <UNH2LY> hey, what should i use to burn an iso
[06:56] <dooglus> phoghawk: you might just see filenames not showing up quite right if they've got french accents or whatever.
[06:56] <phoghawk> dooglus, neat, what about the codepage? also, is there any negatives to adding that charset. I suppose I could do it just for safety
[06:57] <klees> how can i find out what my video card's bus identifier is?????
[06:57] <dooglus> phoghawk: I don't know anything about it really, but I think they're both the same kind of thing.
[06:57] <dooglus> phoghawk: codepages were an early, primitive attempt to solve the problem that charsets solve properly.  or something.
[06:57] <Jaak_> Anyone know about Ati and Opengl problems, as in crashes...?
[06:58] <phoghawk> dooglus, I'll just add the codepage and charset options, just in case
[06:58] <stevekl> Can someone link me to that sources.list builder for dapper?
[06:58] <Klowner> ehm, anyone seen this before?
[06:58] <rendo> Where do I go to set HD space for users?
[06:58] <dooglus> rendo: do you mean like giving each user a disk space quota?
[06:58] <rendo> Yes.
[06:58] <Klowner> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun 24 23:49:26 2006
[06:58] <rendo> I have quota installed, I need to know how to GIVE them a quota :P
[06:59] <bjones> RancidLM: It detected as a "Generic Monitor".  All I get is 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480
[06:59] <UNH2LY> Does anyone know of a simple program to burn isos with in dapper?
[06:59] <spikebike> cdrecord
[06:59] <klees> enable framebuffer device interface???
[06:59] <RancidLM> bjones: and thats probly gonna have to change.. id try chaning the resolution to something that the monitor is capable of
[07:00] <LiteHedded> ati install didn't work
[07:00] <LiteHedded> can someone help?
[07:00] <hastesaver> mystamax, use Synaptic then :)
[07:00] <dooglus> rendo: I saw a web page about it once.  "quotatool" is a tool for editing quotas though.
[07:00] <UNH2LY> klees, something gui?
[07:00] <Jaak_> How do i create an partition from "free space not available" that can be used by ubuntu and windows?
[07:01] <the_Kane> URGENT QUESTION: i want to download the dapper iso, but which do you recommend (i've heard bad things about the desktop cd) the Desktop, or Alternate ?
[07:01] <nickrud> KickStand, ok, That's what this guy is running, and he has a trivial complaint :) Cut and paste his Section "Modes" into your xorg.conf, and see where under Section "Screen" he has a Modes "1680x1050" line? Duplicate that in your xorg.conf also.
[07:01] <the_Kane> ...im on 128mb ram
[07:01] <robert_> okay- what the hell, I'm trying to install ubuntu to /dev/hdb, and all I keep getting are I/O errors
[07:01] <eob84> Hi... I am having trouble getting my desktop to display at anything besides 800x600... I didn't have this problem until I installed the nvidia-glx driver... any suggestions?
[07:01] <Dial_tone> 128?
[07:01] <the_Kane> yep 128
[07:01] <KickStand> nickrud: yeah, will i have to restart x afterward?
[07:01] <nekostar> eh
[07:01] <nekostar> how do i run a binary file?
[07:01] <Dial_tone> I have that in my nfs box and it doesn't even have x installed
[07:01] <dooglus> rendo: there's this: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Quota.html
[07:01] <nekostar> i downloaded that google earth for linux thing but i dont get it :/
[07:01] <nickrud> KickStand, yes, log out of the desktop and then hit clt-alt-backspace
[07:01] <dooglus> nekostar: 1. "chmod +x file.bin"; 2. "./file.bin"
[07:02] <KickStand> it kills all programs correct?
[07:02] <nickrud> KickStand, if you log out correctly, no.
[07:02] <nekostar> oo thanx dooglus
[07:02] <nekostar> forgot the +x then :)
[07:02] <eob84> also... it seems I can only set my refesh rate to 60hz
[07:03] <nickrud> the_Kane, alternate
[07:03] <cparker> hi, anyone else having problems with amaroK under dapper? whenever I try to play an MP3 file from a Samba share, the whole thing freezes.
[07:03] <the_Kane> nickrud: thanks
[07:03] <cparker> I used to use amaroK to do this with Fedora Core without a problem... but I believe I also used the GStreamer engine, which doesn't seem like it's available for Ubuntu Dapper.
[07:05] <eyequeue> i thought gstreamer 0.10 was in dapper
[07:05] <cparker> So, because amaroK is freezing, I go to use Rhythmbox, and that freezes at the first welcome screen... :(
[07:05] <eyequeue> 0.8 was in breezy
[07:06] <Meek-> anyone help? I'm trying to get compiz working... when I enable the composite extension in my xorg.conf, the next time I try to load an x session, it 'freaks out' and drops back to the login manager screen.  It works fine if I take out the composite extension (but I can't load compiz).  Im running nvidia 8762 drivers...
[07:06] <hastesaver> cparker, gstreamer *is* available under Dapper (but it's not good, IMHO)
[07:06] <eyequeue> i'm no sound guru, don't know if that makes a difference
[07:06] <KickStand> nickrud: Okay not only must I have logged out wrong but it didn't fix my resolution either
[07:06] <nickrud> XGL is evil, pre beta software
[07:06] <Meek-> i know, im just messing around with it
[07:06] <cparker> hastesaver: I'm not seeing an amarok-gstreamer package...
[07:07] <Meek-> just wondering if anyone had run into that issues
[07:07] <Meek-> -s
[07:07] <LiteHedded> ati help anyone?
[07:07] <hastesaver> cparker, have you enabled mp3, BTW? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[07:07] <nickrud> KickStand, it's really hard to fix hardware over the net, especially with hardware that does not report itself properly
[07:07] <KickStand> nickrud: Yeah I understand. What a pain in the ass.
[07:07] <Kiko0123> who's the artist of that club song named check around? i can'T find it out...
[07:08] <concept10> im having a problem where samba doesnt fully install, how do I fix this with apt-get, i forgot the command
[07:08] <nickrud> KickStand, You need to find a ModeLine that works.
[07:08] <KickStand> nickrud: I'll try. Isn't it odd that that guys didn't work though?
[07:08] <KickStand> nickrud: He had the same monitor I do
[07:08] <eyequeue> sudo apt-get --reinstall install samba ?
[07:09] <nickrud> KickStand, I had high hopes for that one, especially since it was on a mail list from freedesktop
[07:09] <eob84> anyone have a working nvidia-glx?
[07:09] <nickrud> KickStand, and no one called him on his config there
[07:09] <cparker> hastesaver: thanks for that link... do you know why there isn't an amarok-gstreamer package in dapper?
[07:09] <robert_> blah- why won't it perform I/O to the drive?
[07:09] <robert_> -to+on
[07:10] <_nano_> what run level does ubuntu run on?
[07:10] <Meek-> eob, i am.. just a little bit.. I just found this: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-s.html
[07:10] <Meek-> "The NVIDIA driver does not yet support the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap extension. This extension is used by OpenGL-based composite managers, such as Novell's Compiz, to use X pixmaps as OpenGL textures. Support for the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap extension will be provided in a future NVIDIA driver release"
[07:10] <hastesaver> cparker, I don't know, really. But once you've got mp3 (and all the others) enabled, I think amarok might work fine.
[07:10] <nickrud> KickStand, you could try commenting and uncommenting his other modelines (it's what I'd do) but I offer no promises
[07:11] <cparker> hastesaver, thanks again. :)
[07:11] <hastesaver> cparker, the package amarok-engines installs all of them (according to the apt-cache show page)
[07:11] <eyequeue> nano, 2 3 4 5 are the same, 2 is default
[07:11] <KickStand> nick rud, that is what I plan on, how can i restart x without rebooting ubuntu again?
[07:11] <Meek-> im pretty sure thats saying that current nvidia drivers dont support composite
[07:11] <_nano_> eyequeue: i want to disable mysql and apache to startup...so which rc*.x folder should i look into?
[07:11] <nickrud> KickStand, you must restart X every time.
[07:12] <nickrud> KickStand, just don't open anything that matters while you're troubleshooting
[07:12] <fairy> There is no more amarok-gstreamer
[07:12] <eyequeue> nano, man update-rc.d, for the Ubuntu Way
[07:12] <cparker> hastesaver: perhaps that package--amarok-engines--is in a non-standard repository?
[07:12] <KickStand> nickrud, got ya thanks for your help
[07:12] <_nano_> eyequeue: k, thanks
[07:12] <fairy> to get xine working, you must install libxine-extracodecs.
[07:12] <fairy> (Hope I actually understood what was going on with the previous amarok question)
[07:12] <nickrud> KickStand, luck to you. So, I'm 3 of 5 on lcds so far ;(
[07:12] <cparker> hastesaver: right now, I just have the default repositories that came with dapper.
[07:12] <hastesaver> cparker, perhaps. But amarok-xine and (if you're using KDE already) amarok-arts should be better, right?
[07:14] <fairramone> Hello!
[07:14] <cparker> hastesaver: I'm using Gnome. I'll see how amarok-xine works once I have the mp3 "issue" sorted out... it's just that on other distros, I've had the best luck with amaroK's GStreamer engine.. i'll see how it goes, though. thank you.
[07:14] <fairy> cparker, amarok gstreamer is no longer supported by the amarok team (hence there won't be one) as far as what I understand from my own reading.
[07:15] <nickrud> as best I read it, it's either amarok-xine or armarok-arts
[07:15] <fairy> I had a lot of trouble when I installed amarok, cause I couldn't find the gstreamer plugin myself.   It took reading restricted formats again to figure out why xine wasn't playing MP3s.  (you need to install amarok-xine and then libxine-extracodecs
[07:15] <acke_> hey guys, what player would you put forward as a good allround player for dvd, avi and so on. vlc? xine?
[07:15] <fairy> I like xine better then arts myself :)
[07:16] <eob84> Meek: Thanx... I tried disabling that... I need to do a reboot now to reload the driver... I'll let you know if it works
[07:16] <hastesaver> acke_, mplayer or xine
[07:16] <acke_> movie player kindof sucks, i cant add subtitles to movies when i use it
[07:16] <placidious> i used to be able to access the network drive, now all i get is the authentication request over and over?
[07:16] <Meek-> eob84: i couldnt even use gnome when I had composite enabled
[07:16] <hastesaver> acke_, sure you can. mplayer <filename> -subfile <subfile> (or was it -sub? )
[07:16] <Meek-> oh he left..
[07:16] <acke_> ooh thanks
[07:16] <acke_> gotta try sometime
[07:17] <firefly_> hey
[07:17] <hastesaver> acke_, but use xine if you're comfortable with it already. It's better in some ways, and worse in others.
[07:17] <Rede> I have a high resolution video I'm watching, but it occasionally stutters. is there a way i can devote more system resources to my video app to prevent this?
[07:17] <LiteHedded> anyone in here care to take a stab at my ati issue?
[07:17] <firefly_> How can I change to use GNU jre instead of sun's?
[07:17] <fairy> Is there a preferred app for obtaining expose like functionality? (is skippy or expocity better then the other or is it just personal preference?)
[07:18] <hastesaver> I wish someone would write something to make xine have mplayer keybindings. As I understand it, xine's keybindings are fully customisable, so it should be possible...
[07:18] <nickrud> fairy, it's all personal prefs, since it's alpha software
[07:18] <dooglus> Rede: you could renice it
[07:18] <dooglus> Rede: or use mplayer - it seems to play better
[07:18] <hastesaver> Rede, you could also run it with -framedrop in mplayer, or the equivalent in whatever other app you're using
[07:18] <asdx> i can't install the nvidia 3d driver (i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ; sudo nvidia-glx-config enable) or something like that, but it didn't change anything...
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> man, this is some of the crashiest piece of crap ever
[07:19] <fairy> nickrud, alrighties :) I'll just try one then :)
[07:19] <asdx> i went to console and tryed modprobing nvidia and it showed some error, that could not modprobe it
[07:19] <Rede> renice?
[07:19] <asdx> wtf
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> I just added some pics to a OO presentation
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> and it crashes, kindly offering to recover the document
[07:19] <asdx> no such file or directory
[07:19] <dooglus> Rede: "man renice"
[07:19] <nickrud> fairy, I'm on a kick to kick xgl questions, maybe it'll take :)
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> but then it crashes again
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> and again
[07:19] <troy_s> hastesaver: Give it a shot then!
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> on the document
[07:20] <fairy> nickrud, well, I never did figure out how to get multiple dynamic xgl servers
[07:20] <fairy> so I switched back to xorg.
[07:20] <Bot_Builde1> I know its not ubuntu's fault, but godamnit
[07:20] <hastesaver> troy_s, aww.. .where are the people with the enthu to do these kind of things? :)
[07:20] <robert_> crap
[07:20] <robert_> I have I/O buffer errors
[07:20] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: I know it's not PC to say it, but a lot of open source software is pretty crappy, isn't it?  :)
[07:20] <Bot_Builde1> yeah it is
[07:20] <troy_s> hastesaver: Perhaps you aren't aware as to how community driven software / open source evolves ;)
[07:20] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, ouch. I trust openoffice a lot,
[07:21] <Bot_Builde1> I used to
[07:21] <Bot_Builde1> It seems stable on windows
[07:21] <Bot_Builde1> but ubuntu....
[07:21] <hastesaver> troy_s, I'll do it someday, I guess. I just wish someone else would do it for me :)
[07:21] <troy_s> hastesaver: It's from exactly people like you who go out and try a little bit, then others build on it.
[07:21] <Meek-> can someone explain this to me a little clearer? -> If you get an error about missing Composite extension when starting compiz, you probably tried to start it on the base Xorg server (which shouldn't be used for any program any more except for starting Xgl itself) and not on the Xgl server. Set your DISPLAY variable accordingly.
[07:21] <asdx> google earth for linux is a static binary?
[07:21] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, been using it for years, and never had something like that happen. Open office is my office
[07:22] <Bot_Builde1> yeah
[07:22] <Meek-> as in... where do I set my DISPLAY variable
[07:22] <Bot_Builde1> its my office on windows
[07:22] <hastesaver> Bot_Builde1, KDE's office apps are very good, IMHO. You should try them if OO.o is crashing too much.
[07:22] <firefly_> Does anyone know how to change my system to use the GNU java instead of the Sun one?
[07:22] <hastesaver> firefly_, update-alternatives
[07:22] <Bot_Builde1> I'm gonna have to text edit the file <>
[07:22] <robert_> bah
[07:22] <robert_> this drive sucks
[07:22] <dooglus> hastesaver: or try gnumeric/abiword
[07:23] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, try #openoffice, or the open office mail lists. They wanna hear about this.
[07:23] <dooglus> same question to number 1
[07:23] <dooglus> nickrud: they want to hear about un-official packages crashing?
[07:23] <dooglus> nickrud: Bot_Builde1's having problems with ubuntu builds, not OO.org builds
[07:24] <hastesaver> !tell firefly_ about java
[07:24] <nickrud> gnumeric is nice, so is abiword. But, I can't use them with my clueless windows compatriots. I got them using openoffice, gotta channel a real bug
[07:24] <firefly_> hastesaver: thanks, i'll look into that
[07:24] <Bot_Builde1> dooglus - I suppose.  It could just be this is a newer, buggier version of OO
[07:24] <dooglus> nickrud: gnumeric and abiword both speak open document format
[07:24] <nickrud> dooglus, erm point
[07:24] <eob84> Meek: Disabling renderaccel didn't seem to make any differance
[07:24] <Fash> hey all, so im following a guide, how can i do this ? -add "/usr/bin/startcompiz"
[07:25] <dooglus> Fash: add it to what?
[07:25] <nickrud> it's not like this is debian, with all it's checks & balances. Or, is this the same build?
[07:25] <Bot_Builde1> Ah I know what the problem is
[07:25] <hastesaver> nickrud, gnumeric and abiword actually look *more* like Excel and Word than OO.o.
[07:25] <LiteHedded> anyone care to help me with ati yet?
[07:25] <Fash> dooglus, sorry i didnt paste the full message, here it is -add "/usr/bin/startcompiz" to gnome session startup programs
[07:25] <Bot_Builde1> Its not liking me draggin pictures right onto the presentation
[07:26] <dooglus> Fash: oh, I never got the hang of gnome sessions.  the gnome session dialog just plain seems weird to me.
[07:26] <dooglus> Fash: but you'll find 'Sessions' somewhere in the system menu - that's the right place to be looking for 'startup'
[07:26] <nickrud> hastesaver, if you could tell me how to put a picture in abiword headers, I'd consider a change. (haven't looked in the last couple of months, true. Things change)
[07:27] <eob84> Meek-: Disabling renderaccel didn't seem to make any differance
[07:28] <hastesaver> nickrud, sorry, I don't know. I rarely use Abiword-like apps, anyway. I'm confused by them; I use LaTeX :)
[07:28] <tripppy> !tell tripppy unrar
[07:28] <tripppy> !tell unrar
[07:28] <dooglus> !unrar
[07:28] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dooglus
[07:28] <nickrud> hastesaver, did you see the part about clueless windows users?
[07:28] <Meek-> eob84: whats happening for you?
[07:28] <dooglus> tripppy: "unrar" is a package in dapper.  i breezy it's probably "unrar-nonfree" you want
[07:28] <nickrud> hastesaver, erm, supposed to be funny there, failed
[07:28] <tripppy> k
[07:29] <dooglus> !rar
[07:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:29] <dooglus> tripppy: your 3rd 'p' is trippping me out, man
[07:29] <eob84> Meek-: Before I installed the nvidia driver I was able to use 1152x864... after installing it I can only use 800x600@60hz for my desktop
[07:29] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, try using the insert picture option, it may work better
[07:30] <mystamax> what is the vnc SERVEr product for XFCE??
[07:30] <nickrud> mystamax, very good question, I don't think there is one
[07:30] <dooglus> mystamax: try #xubuntu or #xfce I guess
[07:30] <Bot_Builde1> nickrud - thats what i was thinking
[07:30] <Bot_Builde1> but first i need to fix my xml file
[07:30] <Meek-> eob84, hmm we're having dif problems then :o
[07:30] <Bot_Builde1> and gedit hangs on loading it
[07:31] <Bot_Builde1> so I'm using the bloody hex editor
[07:31] <dooglus> mystamax: I use x11vnc to share the current desktop
[07:31] <tripppy> dooglus: hehe, thanks for help. ubuntu roks. im putting one ontop of fridge.
[07:31] <Bot_Builde1> whos string search assumes a null ender
[07:31] <eob84> Meek-: What is the issue you are having?
[07:31] <mystamax> dooglus: is that something diffrent from a vnc SERVER?
[07:31] <robert_> whee
[07:31] <mystamax> dooglus: could I do resumable sessions with x11vnc?
[07:31] <dooglus> mystamax: "vnc-server" shares a *new* desktop, not the one you're working on
[07:32] <dooglus> mystamax: resumable?  how you mean?
[07:32] <mystamax> My goal is to be able to login to XFCE w/o having to have autologin or leaving a user logged in
[07:32] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, without sounding to condesending (hopefully) I wish you real luck
[07:33] <Bot_Builde1> hehe
[07:33] <Bot_Builde1> thanks
[07:33] <Meek-> eob84, trying to just get xgl/compiz working... compiz says I need the composite extension, but that freaks my x session out
[07:33] <Bot_Builde1> ah, eclipse might work better for xml editing
[07:33] <dooglus> mystamax: that's default behaviour isn't it?  no-autologin?
[07:34] <eob84> Meek-: I see... Haven't played with that yet... one step at a time :-(
[07:34] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: emacs21 won't hang on reading it.
[07:34] <Dirge> Hello everyone.
[07:34] <dooglus> hi Dirge
[07:35] <Dirge> I'm using Gnome, but everything I want to do (especially file tranfsers and file edits) require root access. How do I give root access to the current user?
[07:35] <__j0sh__> g'day mate
[07:35] <mystamax> dooglus: I don't think I could just restart a server, and log into the GUI remotely via VNC
[07:35] <nickrud> dooglus, could you recommend a major mode for emacs21 & Bot_Builde1 problem? I know it's the swiss army knife :)
[07:36] <dooglus> nickrud: he's currently using a hex editor...  so "fundamental-mode" would be a huge step up
[07:36] <nickrud> dooglus, point again
[07:36] <Bot_Builde1> :P
[07:37] <dooglus> nickrud: also, xml-mode is an alias for ml-mode': Major mode for editing SGML documents.
[07:37] <Bot_Builde1> ah, i need to install emacs - working on it
[07:37] <dooglus> ooh, it didn't like pasting that.  `sgml-mode', that was supposed to say.
[07:38] <dooglus> who told me it was a good idea to use ` as the 'escape' key in screen?  I just found out why it isn't :)
[07:38] <nickrud> I'm gonna learn docbook in emacs if it kills me, and it probably will. I cry over source these days
[07:38] <Dirge> Am I supposed to go into terminal and use su in order to save a file I was editing in a GUI?
[07:38] <dooglus> Dirge: I use emacs21 to edit files as root
[07:39] <nickrud> Dirge, no, your gui should save somewhere
[07:39] <dooglus> Dirge: if you tell it to edit:    /root@localhost:/etc/apt/sources.list    then it sudo's to root, and edits the file as root in that buffer
[07:39] <Dirge> It will never allow me to save or edit files. The OS keeps altering the files into root access only.
[07:39] <nickrud> Dirge, if it's a file you need to write as root, save it to the Desktop and then copy or move it to the proper place with sudo
[07:39] <Dirge> And external HDD is root only as well.
[07:39] <asdx> can anyone tell me why nvidia drivers dosn't work in the live cd?
[07:40] <Dirge> So I can't transfer to or edit anything there.
[07:40] <dooglus> Dirge: what filesystem type is the external HDD?
[07:40] <Dirge> NTFS
[07:40] <Bot_Builde1> ok, i open content.xml with emacs, nothing is on the screen
[07:40] <AJ004> which is the best videoplayer for linux?
[07:40] <Bot_Builde1> least, i think i have, i can't really tell because of the crap UI :P
[07:40] <Dirge> VLC
[07:40] <AJ004> that is compatible with all the codecs
[07:40] <asdx> AJ004: vlc
[07:40] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, I was hoping to get you better help, so I'm bowing out now
[07:40] <dooglus> Dirge: that'll be why then.  Linux has a hard time writing to NTFS, due to Microsoft's refusal to publish NTFS specs.
[07:40] <AJ004> how do i install vlc?
[07:41] <Dirge> It'll write, but I need to go into terminal and su then copy.
[07:41] <Dirge> Why can't the GUI have root access?
[07:41] <AJ004> asdx:  Is vlc in synaptic?
[07:41] <dooglus> Dirge: you can "sudo gedit" if you want to gedit as root
[07:41] <Dirge> That's a temp fix.
[07:41] <Bot_Builde1> Dirge - because linux people are like that
[07:41] <dooglus> Dirge: is it?
[07:41] <Flannel> Dirge, dooglus, gksudo
[07:41] <Bot_Builde1> gui shouldn't do anything important and such
[07:41] <dooglus> Flannel: same difference.
[07:42] <nickrud> Dirge, no, that is the definition of permissions
[07:42] <Flannel> dooglus: no, sudo can screw things up
[07:42] <Dirge> important such as editing files and file transfers?
[07:42] <AJ004> ok found vlc
[07:42] <AJ004> will try it
[07:42] <dooglus> Flannel: when running gedit?
[07:42] <Dirge> Well I want to GIVE permissions.
[07:42] <nickrud> dooglus, not quite, $HOME is different in sudo & gksudo
[07:42] <Bot_Builde1> yeah, permissions have basically made knoppix useless for recovery
[07:42] <Bot_Builde1> makes me want to make a linux distro specifically for utility
[07:43] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: lack of permissions has basically made Windows useless for anything
[07:43] <Bot_Builde1> but that'd take a while
[07:43] <Dirge> For instance, I have a file I want to download, I try yo download then save it, but I can't save it to the external HDD because it's for root only.
[07:43] <AJ004> i installed VLC but which directory is it in?
[07:43] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: why don't you just run everything as root?
[07:43] <Dirge> It won't let me log into the GUI as root.
[07:43] <Bot_Builde1> dooglus, I know, but for a utility distro it kinda sucks
[07:44] <Flannel> dooglus: running everything as root? what?
[07:44] <nickrud> Dirge, linux does not write to ntfs for one simple reason: microsoft has not published the specs needed for reliable writing to ntfs
[07:44] <Bot_Builde1> jesus, I'm going to resort to vi
[07:44] <Jaak_> How do i permanently change the rights of an folder
[07:44] <dooglus> Dirge: it will if you 'fix' the AllowRoot=false line in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:44] <Bot_Builde1> worse than a text editor
[07:44] <Dirge> AJ004 Applications -> Soung & Video
[07:44] <dooglus> Flannel: Dirge doesn't like 'permissions'.  he wants to be able to write to any file he wants.
[07:44] <Bot_Builde1> *hex editor
[07:44] <cge> Dirge: /quit
[07:44] <Dirge> No thanks.
[07:45] <steveO> any opers that can kill steveO_?  It's my ghost.
[07:45] <Flannel> Dirge: we haven't reverse engineered safe writing, so there are things that'll let you write to ntfs, but can't guarentee they wont hose the partition.
[07:45] <Dirge> Also, it won't let me write anywhere except home.
[07:45] <cge> Dirge: Err, that was unintentional.
[07:45] <Flannel> Dirge: right, that's by design
[07:45] <steveO> nm.
[07:45] <Dirge> Not just the external NTFS HDD.
[07:45] <garryfre> IN breezy it ws easy to figure out how to get read access to toher hard drives. Not so Dapper so far.
[07:45] <Dirge> Ok, how do I give a user root access?
[07:45] <Madpilot> Dirge, that's because the system owns /, you don't
[07:45] <dooglus> Dirge: you add him to the 'admin' group.  then he can use 'sudo'
[07:45] <Mersault> I've recently migrated to dapper drake (clean install), and I don't like the Sessions management panel as much. I need to control the order in which startup items are run. Which file should I add the commands to that I would have put in the Sessions admin pane?
[07:45] <Bot_Builde1> oh jesus
[07:45] <Dirge> Ok, done... Why doesn't it work.
[07:46] <Bot_Builde1> the xml file is one big line
[07:46] <Bot_Builde1> and i can't scroll down in vim
[07:46] <nickrud> hrm, does anyone remember the ghost command for killing your old avatars off hand?
[07:46] <garryfre> You would want to use sudo not give yourself enough priveleges to hang yourself.
[07:46] <Flannel> steveO_: you can, with ghost, for future reference (/msg nickserv help ghost)
[07:46] <dooglus> Dirge: what did you do?
[07:46] <Bot_Builde1> ok, I'm going to download the Vista beta
[07:46] <AJ004> nope
[07:46] <Bot_Builde1> this sucks
[07:46] <AJ004> vlc doesnt work and neither does movie player
[07:46] <AJ004> it is an ASX file
[07:46] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: use emacs21
[07:46] <Dirge> What video are you trying to watch AJ004?
[07:46] <Bot_Builde1> I have, when i opened the file nothing was there
[07:46] <DShepherd> nickrud: /gshost nick passwd? is that wat you want?
[07:46] <Flannel> Bot_Builde1: that's because its saved with different line endings
[07:47] <Bot_Builde1> Flannel - it was saved by openoffice
[07:47] <Bot_Builde1> I think its to save space
[07:47] <AJ004> dirge:  An ASX format video
[07:47] <Bot_Builde1> but really it makes it un-human editable
[07:47] <Bot_Builde1> probably what screwed up gedit, its one big ass line
[07:47] <nickrud> DShepherd, yeah, steveO_ was looking for that, thanks
[07:48] <Dirge> System -> Users & Groups -> Select my name -> Properties -> Advanced -> Main Group -> Admin
[07:48] <Jaak_> Is the wrong word i am looking for? Beceause i can't find any documentation on How i permanently change the rights of an folder?
[07:48] <dooglus> Dirge: that won't take effect until the user next logs in
[07:48] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, there are editors that'll visually break a long line so it doesn't run off the screen - Bluefish, for example
[07:48] <Jaak_> Is it Rights?
[07:48] <Dirge> That was done 3 days ago.
[07:48] <Dirge> And 25+ logins
[07:49] <Bot_Builde1> man, I'll make better progress submitting a bug report and waiting for the next version of OO
[07:49] <Flannel> dooglus: do you want to change the owner? or the permissions?
[07:49] <dooglus> Dirge: how did you run the 'Users & Groups' think if you can't sudo?
[07:49] <nickrud> Jaak_, permissions is the word
[07:49] <Flannel> erm, Jaak_
[07:49] <Jaak_> =D
[07:49] <dooglus> Flannel: neither.
[07:49] <Bot_Builde1> madpilot - that is true, but internally a 65K line seems to screw many text editors
[07:49] <Flannel> dooglus: not you.
[07:49] <Flannel> Jaak_: changing owner or permissions?
[07:49] <Dirge> It asks for the SU password to enter the Administrator tools
[07:49] <Flannel> Dirge: no, it asks for YOUR sudo password
[07:49] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, what was this 65k/single line file created in?
[07:49] <Jaak_> permissions
[07:49] <Jaak_> thanks
[07:49] <dooglus> Dirge: the SU password?  not your own user password?
[07:50] <Flannel> Jaak_: alright, you want chmod, chown is for owner.
[07:50] <Bot_Builde1> It's an openoffice document, unzipped, the content.xml file
[07:50] <Dirge> I made both the same.
[07:50] <Bot_Builde1> I'm trying to fix it so openoffice doesn't crash when i open it
[07:50] <dooglus> Dirge: if you can run the users & groups thing, then you can use 'sudo'
[07:50] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, ah... I'm not sure OOo files are really designed to be unpacked :|
[07:50] <Bot_Builde1> they aren't
[07:50] <Bot_Builde1> but i have no other option
[07:50] <Bot_Builde1> this is due tomorrow
[07:51] <Dirge> But that's not the issue, that's working properly. But giving permission to a user is the issue.
[07:51] <Bot_Builde1> and ive worked on it a few weeks
[07:51] <DShepherd> nickrud: no prob
[07:51] <dooglus> Dirge: permission to do what?
[07:51] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, ouch... do you know what's breaking?
[07:51] <Bot_Builde1> yes
[07:51] <kholerabbi> What's the shortcuts for switching workspaces??
[07:51] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, really, I'd go ask on #openoffice or their mail lists, whatever distro it is, they would like to know about dragging & dropping failing
[07:51] <Flannel> Dirge: Dirge what's the issue? just add them to the admin group.
[07:51] <Bot_Builde1> I just need to remove references to some images
[07:51] <Dirge> Edit, transfer files, create files, etc.
[07:51] <CRASH69> hi. I am about to set up a desktop with ubuntu, do I have to get plug-ins for mp3, CSS dvd, etc? what about wireless? is there any "good" pages about this?
[07:51] <Bot_Builde1> dragging and dropping images, as nickrud said are what broke it
[07:51] <dooglus> Dirge: everyone has permissions to do that
[07:51] <Flannel> !tell CRASH69 about restrictedformats
[07:52] <Dirge> I only have 1 user, Myself. But I can't do anything that you'd expect to be able to do.
[07:52] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, search & replace will work even if it's one giant messy line
[07:52] <Flannel> oh, psh.
[07:52] <dooglus> Dirge: but only for files they have permission to do those things on
[07:52] <Bot_Builde1> bloody dual screenness... I wouldn't have even tried drag and drop if i didn't have two screens :)
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> Anybody know of a way to check open up the modem and play it through the speakers without doing anything?  We have dialup and I'd like a way to check whether anyone is online, but actually dialing sometimes will kick them off if they are, so I just want to be able to check whether there's a dial tone or internet nonsense.
[07:52] <Bot_Builde1> madpilot - how do i search in vim?
[07:52] <dooglus> Dirge: I would expect your user to be able to edit his own files, and not the system files.
[07:52] <Flannel> CRASH69: that page will get you info on all those
[07:52] <concept10> I need help in figuring out this video problem.  The screen never refreshes.  This happens in all video players.  Its been like this since I switched to dapper 4 months ago.  Any suggestions?
[07:52] <dooglus> Dirge: what would you expect?
[07:52] <Bot_Builde1> its the least user friendly program in existance
[07:52] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, not sure, I use nano when I can't use gedit, myself
[07:52] <Bot_Builde1> ah nano
[07:52] <Bot_Builde1> I'll try it
[07:52] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: you type "/", then a regular expression, then hit return
[07:52] <concept10> Bot_Builde1, try cream for vim
[07:53] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, nano has basic commands listed along the bottom of the screen all the time - much more sensible :)
[07:53] <kholerabbi> tonyyarusso - if you have a normal telephone plugged into the same line, pick it up and you'll hear the bzz
[07:53] <Bot_Builde1> ooh yes
[07:53] <dooglus> Madpilot: can it search?
[07:53] <Bot_Builde1> svn ci uses nano
[07:53] <Dirge> I have a xorg.test file in X11, but after I transfer it there (even though I'm the creator) I'm locked out and have to tranfer again and overwrite it in su mode.
[07:53] <Madpilot> dooglus, I'm sure it can
[07:53] <Flannel> dooglus: it can.
[07:53] <Madpilot> Dirge, use sudo in Ubuntu plus your own user pw - there's no need for su by default...
[07:53] <concept10> Bot_Builde1, download Cream for VIM.  It turns VIM into a normal editor
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> kholerabbi: I don't have one in this room.  Not a huge deal, but an it would be nice if.
[07:54] <Flannel> it's an ncurses based text editor, using ncurses isntead of a GUI
[07:54] <dooglus> Dirge: you can make it writable with a "chmod +w"
[07:54] <concept10> I use it everyday
[07:54] <nickrud> Dirge, and the problem with that is?
[07:54] <CRASH69> Flannel, thx
[07:54] <Bot_Builde1> yes nano looks good
[07:54] <Bot_Builde1> concept10 - willdo when ive got the time
[07:54] <kholerabbi> tonyyarusso: hmmm.... dunno than
[07:54] <concept10> it takes 1 min with apt
[07:55] <Dirge> I'd like my user (Myself) to automatically have root access.
[07:55] <nickrud> Dirge, its supposed to be that freaking way. You (a simple user) are not root (the master of the universe, in the case, your os)
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> kholerabbi: I was thinking along the lines of somehow just saying to send the modem device stuff through to the audio out, but I have no idea how that would work.
[07:55] <Dirge> Any way to do that?
[07:55] <dooglus> Dirge: can you give more information about your xorg.test example?  how do you transfer it?  what does an "ls -l" show on the source and destination of the transfer?
[07:55] <concept10> anyone seen a common thread or wiki page for video problems on dapper?
[07:55] <Madpilot> Dirge, why? that's uselessly risky and best avoided...
[07:55] <Flannel> Dirge: running as root is the stupidest thing you can do
[07:55] <eob84> After installing the nvidia-glx driver I can ony seem to get my desktop to display at 800x600@60hz... any help?
[07:55] <nickrud> Dirge, no.
[07:56] <Flannel> !tell eob84 about fixres
[07:56] <concept10> !video
[07:56] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, concept10
[07:56] <Dirge> well, entering terminal every 30 seconds and manually typing a directory that's hella long is getting very annoying.
[07:56] <gavagai> Dirge, use tab completion for the directory
[07:56] <dooglus> Dirge: you could alias 'cp' to 'sudo cp', and so on...
[07:56] <kholerabbi> tonyyarusso: it may be possible to do it thruogh software - I really dunno .. I just got broadband - no dialup :) yay!
[07:56] <Flannel> Dirge: or, run one instance of a gksudod nautilus
[07:57] <Flannel> Dirge: and then don't accidentally hit 'delete'
[07:57] <Bot_Builde1> nano seems to hate the single lineness as well
[07:57] <nickrud> Dirge, once you wrap your head around who get's permissions to write where, you will very glad that you have to use sudo to write to /etc/X11
[07:57] <Bot_Builde1> but it sorta works
[07:57] <Madpilot> Dirge, what're you doing that requires so much root access?
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> kholerabbi: Hehe, all right.  (I tried asking this before without luck, so low hopes here.)
[07:57] <Dirge> How to I alias every single folder so that I don't have to type /etc/X11/etc etc
[07:57] <phoghawk> dooglus, are you still here? I need more of your lovely help
[07:57] <dooglus> phoghawk: I am.  It would be good to help you again.
[07:57] <Madpilot> Dirge, the Tab key is your friend. /et<tab>X1<tab> will get you /etc/X11 in half the keystrokes...
[07:57] <dooglus> phoghawk: the advice I've been giving recently has been travelling through 2 ears and 0 brains I fear
[07:58] <Dirge> I'm changing my system settings to allow for dual monitors, and it requires a LOT of testing. lots of startx etc.. And typing it all out over and over is very cubersome.
[07:58] <phoghawk> dooglus, awesome, I decided to change one of the filesystems from vfat to ntfs, but now I'm having the same problems. I can't read or write to that partition
[07:58] <dooglus> Dirge: you can use CDPATH to quickly cd around the place if that helps
[07:58] <phoghawk> dooglus, what do you usually put for your ntfs partitions, if you have any
[07:58] <dooglus> phoghawk: and umask=0 didn't help?  (NTFS is readonly in Linux, anyway, by default)
[07:59] <dooglus> phoghawk: I have: /dev/hda1 /mnt/c        ntfs noauto,umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,uid=501,gid=501,nls=iso8859-15    0 0
[07:59] <odinriko> How do I make it so my usb hd is writeable by non-root user when it's mounted?  It's using ext3
[07:59] <odinriko> .
[07:59] <phoghawk> dooglus, oh, so is there no way I can write to it?
[07:59] <dooglus> phoghawk: there is.  everyone here will tell you it's not safe though.
[07:59] <kholerabbi> Could someone send me the wiki for installing java .. I had it but it seems to have gone to the moon
[07:59] <phoghawk> dooglus, why isn't it safe?
[07:59] <Flannel> dooglus: that's because it's not safe.  It's not an opinion, it's fact.
[07:59] <krazykit> phoghawk: writing to ntfs is a good way to lose your data.
[07:59] <garryfre> NO safe way to write to it.
[08:00] <nickrud> Dirge, I see your point about that; try cd /etc/X11 , it will give you easy access or xorg.conf, you won't have to prepend /etc/X11 to xorg.conf every time.
[08:00] <gavagai> Dirge, you can remember directories with pushd.  man bash and read about pushd
[08:00] <Pupbuntoo> Hi, when i use serpentine to try to make an audio cd, i tell it to add an mp3 file (which xmms plays just fine) and it says "unsupported file type, make sure you have the gstreamer plugins".  I'm pretty sure I have all the gstreamer stuff.  Any ideas what could be wrong or how to debug?
[08:00] <phoghawk> even if you just copy it to the ntfs partition
[08:00] <Madpilot> kholerabbi, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:00] <krazykit> phoghawk: the problem is that microsoft won't release the specs.
[08:00] <phoghawk> krazykit, silly M$
[08:00] <dooglus> phoghawk: see http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsmount
[08:00] <_mason> Hey
[08:00] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay, thanks
[08:00] <garryfre> Migrainesoft did not release all the specks for ntfs, and things keep changing. It can do strange things to nice try file system.
[08:00] <dooglus> Flannel: is http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsmount lying then?
[08:00] <krazykit> phoghawk: yes, you could possibly mess up other bits of the fs.  read-only support is ok, but writing... is not recommended
[08:01] <xice> yeah, just dont do it
[08:01] <Bot_Builde1> what's sad is that m$ might have done something right when they wrote wordpad
[08:01] <dooglus> phoghawk: Microsoft keep the inner workings of NTFS secret, so Linux can't write to it with guesswork...
[08:01] <Bot_Builde1> its way better than any of this stuff
[08:01] <kholerabbi> hehe thanks
[08:01] <odinriko> Can anyone at least point me in the correct direction?
[08:02] <phoghawk> dooglus, I suppose that's okay. Do you think I'll be able to install windows on the NTFS partition I created in gParted?
[08:02] <Dirge> hmmm, I have a java application "*.jar" and the Archive Manager keeps opening it. How do I run it with Java?
[08:02] <Bot_Builde1> sorry, but at least it can edit text
[08:02] <dooglus> phoghawk: I've no idea, sorry
[08:02] <Snoops> some of the distros use the ntfs driver ms uses.. apparently it's very slow and still doesn't guarantee anything
[08:02] <phoghawk> dooglus, no problem
[08:02] <Madpilot> Dirge, got the Sun Java j2re installed?
[08:03] <Starseed> new super mario bros is so damn fun
[08:03] <Dirge> I think so. I did that a few days ago.
[08:03] <nickrud> phoghawk, you probably want to use the windows partitioner, to at least touch an ntfs partition you want to write in windows. Just bad experience talking here.
[08:03] <dooglus> Flannel: see, in particular, http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_safe_is_the_ntfs_driver
[08:03] <tylerofl> can someone tell me how i can go about getting ubuntu to detect my mp3 player?
[08:04] <Madpilot> Dirge, when you installed Sun Java, did you do the java-reconfigure thing?
[08:04] <tylerofl> it doesn't come up as a hard drive like it should
[08:04] <dooglus> Flannel: if you have any evidence at all that it's not safe, could you point me at it please?
[08:04] <garryfre> So, what is the proper wya to gain readonly permissions so I can browse disks. It was easy to puzzle it out in Breezy, not so easy with Dapper, the user=??? in fstab does not work. It keeps saying I have no permissions to browse and I'd rather not have to swap a memstick 400 times.
[08:04] <phoghawk> nickrud, ya, I tried that, but it was being really weird. I created a partition and it still said it wasn't a valid one
[08:04] <neutrinomass> tylerofl: USB I suppose? Try doing an 'lsusb' from a command line and pastebin the output .. (http://www.pastebin.com )
[08:04] <udo> how can i setup my sound card to work i have a the chipset via82xx
[08:04] <Dirge> No, what's that? I'm still checking to make sure it installed correctly.
[08:05] <Bot_Builde1> Damnit, nano has no undo
[08:05] <nickrud> phoghawk, yeah. I'm talking about years old experience, which gets hazy. I enjoy not needing windows :)
[08:05] <Madpilot> Dirge, long URL, but here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b
[08:05] <Bot_Builde1> I've spent this whole time laboriously deleting xml:image elements
[08:05] <eob84> Flannel: Thanx but it was nothing that easy...
[08:05] <phoghawk> nickrud, I haven't used it in a year or so, but I figure it's always good to have, now that I have more HDD space
[08:05] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, did it work?
[08:06] <Bot_Builde1> nah, I just deleted a bit too much of one i wanted to keep
[08:06] <Bot_Builde1> and nano has no undo
[08:06] <amit> how to play mp3 songs on ubuntu?
[08:06] <tylerofl> neutrinomass: strange, it doesn't come up at all
[08:06] <tylerofl> it's as if it's not even plugged in, but it says USB connected on the player itself
[08:07] <nickrud> phoghawk, true, there are a few games worth playing, or so I hear. Can't even concieve of a reason to use windows otherwise :)
[08:07] <neutrinomass> tylerofl: Check the cabling then ...
[08:07] <neutrinomass> tylerofl: Are you sure the mp3 player works? Can you try it on another PC ?
[08:07] <amit> how to play mp3 songs on ubuntu?
[08:07] <tylerofl> the same cable works just fine on my digital camera
[08:07] <neutrinomass> tylerofl: AFAIK *every* device has to show up in lsusb ..
[08:07] <neutrinomass> !ubotu tell amit about mp3
[08:07] <Flannel> !tell amit about mp3
[08:07] <nickrud> !mp3
[08:07] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:07] <tylerofl> i will try it on the computer upstairs
[08:07] <nickrud> late again
[08:08] <udo> how can i setup my sound card to work i have a the chipset via82xx
[08:08] <amit> i have installed amarok but i am not able to play songs
[08:08] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: emacs21 has multi-level undo, and interactive regular-expression search-and-replace
[08:08] <phoghawk> amit, you need the w32codecs package
[08:08] <Bot_Builde1> but no giant ass line support :P
[08:08] <DShepherd> amit: install libxine-extracodecs.. or something like that
[08:08] <phoghawk> amit, maybe it's win32codecs
[08:08] <neutrinomass> amit: Please read the link ubotu gave you :)
[08:08] <nickrud> amit, install libxine-extracodecs, you will need to enable the multiverse repo, see below
[08:08] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: it supports long lines too
[08:08] <nickrud> !multiverse
[08:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:08] <Bot_Builde1> really well it was a blank screen for me
[08:08] <Dirge> ok, those all were set up to use Suns Java.. Not sure why it won't run.
[08:08] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: that was vim
[08:09] <Bot_Builde1> the opening system was probably too complex for the likes of me
[08:09] <Bot_Builde1> no i tried emacs too
[08:10] <Bot_Builde1> ok figured out what the xml i deleted probably was
[08:10] <DShepherd> does it seem like people are using the help system that comes with ubuntu?
[08:10] <Bot_Builde1> now the moment of truth
[08:10] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: when I open a .odt in Emacs, it shows me a list of the contents of the archive.
[08:10] <Madpilot> DShepherd, probably not :)
[08:10] <Bot_Builde1> dooglus - you have to unzip it
[08:10] <udo> how can i test my speakers?
[08:10] <Bot_Builde1> and open content.xml
[08:11] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: it unzips it for me.  see screenshot: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/2006-06-13--08-10-51.png
[08:11] <nickrud> DShepherd, no
[08:11] <Bot_Builde1> it unzips for me too
[08:11] <Bot_Builde1> but if its a big content.xml file some editors might screw up
[08:11] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: the arrow characters in the last column indicate 'long-ass line'
[08:11] <DShepherd> Madpilot: i think so too. there's alot of answers there. I guess that's why I think the 'ubuntu welcome center' is a great idea. I think people just doesnt know it exists
[08:11] <Bot_Builde1> oh, yeah
[08:11] <nickrud> DShepherd, but what i've read is good, we need to link ubotu to the proper places
[08:11] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: sure.  that's why I'm recommending a proper editor
[08:12] <Bot_Builde1> I would be very surprised if this works...
[08:12] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: is the document available on-line?  or is it private?
[08:13] <nickrud> Madpilot, I hear there's a wiki to docbook converter in the pipeline ...
[08:13] <Bot_Builde1> I could stick it up
[08:13] <DShepherd> nickrud: ok
[08:13] <tylerofl> back
[08:13] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: go on then.  or email me @gmail.com
[08:13] <tylerofl> okay, the computer upstairs is running windows XP. it detected that something was plugged in, but it had a problem recognizing the device
[08:14] <nickrud> cuz docbook is rediculously complex
[08:14] <neutrinomass> tylerofl: I'm not sure then... it's probably a device issue. It is supposed to show under lsusb in any case :(
[08:14] <tylerofl> :(
[08:14] <Bot_Builde1> http://botbuilder.googlepages.com/GrudichGeorg.odp
[08:14] <tylerofl> alright, thanks though
[08:15] <Madpilot> nickrud, yeah, I've seen demonstrations, actually. Sometimes it produces good DocBook XML, sometimes it...doesn't... ;)
[08:15] <Bot_Builde1> may linux have mercy on your OO
[08:16] <Bot_Builde1> oh wait
[08:16] <nickrud> Madpilot, from what I read, that's reasonable. But, anyone that can do docbook from their fingertips should be either canonized, or bronzed :)
[08:16] <Dirge> This is getting very annoying, I can't install any plugin through Firefox.
[08:16] <Bot_Builde1> Looks like my fixes worked :)
[08:17] <Bot_Builde1> wait no
[08:17] <Bot_Builde1> it crashed as soon as the offending slides came into view
[08:17] <Madpilot> nickrud, I fake it with lots of copy & paste from existing code that I know works :) Regular HTML/CSS I can do cold (mostly) but DocBook XML is a whole other beast
[08:17] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: what did you want editing with it?
[08:18] <Bot_Builde1> at the time i was drag/dropping images into it
[08:18] <Bot_Builde1> seemed to work fine
[08:18] <nickrud> Madpilot, it's (except for fundamental laziness) that keeps me from doing more. You all did a great job on the docs, if it matters ;)
[08:18] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: it opens fine in Emacs: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/2006-06-13--08-18-18.png
[08:18] <Bot_Builde1> hmm
[08:19] <Bot_Builde1> but does it open fine in OO :P
[08:19] <amit> could anyone help regarding porting of images to ARM processors
[08:19] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: I don't run stupid wysiwyg office apps unless I have to
[08:19] <Bot_Builde1> ah thats pretty hardcore ;p
[08:19] <Bot_Builde1> I'd think you'd be on debian or slackware or someat
[08:20] <amit> i mean uClinux image to lpc22xx
[08:20] <Anubix> HEY can someone please help me with a quickie stupid xchat question?
[08:20] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[08:20] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[08:20] <nickrud> nah, Bot_Builde1 a lot of people hang out on this os, cuz it is taking chances. On a stable foundation
[08:21] <Bot_Builde1> ah
[08:21] <Anubix> I think its a flood thing, but when i use an @find anywhere, i will get a maximum of 5 private message tabs, then all the rest go to the active window
[08:21] <Anubix> how do i fix this?
[08:21] <Bot_Builde1> my..god...
[08:21] <Anubix> it didn't use to do this, just started today
[08:21] <Bot_Builde1> saving to powerpoint file fixed it
[08:21] <amit> compilation problem : undefined refrence to lookup_machine_type
[08:21] <Bot_Builde1> screw ODF :)
[08:21] <amit> error raised by a linker
[08:21] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, what happens when you save the PPT back as an OOo format?
[08:22] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: here's a properly formatted short-ass line xml file if you're interested: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/content.xml
[08:22] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: I am on debian :)
[08:22] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: I've not been able to run ubuntu since I upgraded to Edgy a few days back :)
[08:22] <garryfre> So, what is the proper wya to gain readonly permissions so I can browse disks. It was easy to puzzle it out in Breezy, not so easy with Dapper, the user=??? in fstab does not work. It keeps saying I have no permissions to browse and I'd rather not have to swap a memstick 400 times.
[08:22] <garryfre> So, what is the proper wya to gain readonly permissions so I can browse disks. It was easy to puzzle it out in Breezy, not so easy with Dapper, the user=??? in fstab does not work. It keeps saying I have no permissions to browse and I'd rather not have to swap a memstick 400 times.
[08:22] <Bot_Builde1> thanks, I'm curious what went wrong
[08:23] <nickrud> dooglus, you freak
[08:23] <Anubix> xchat wont open more than 5 tabs (or 7 total w/ status tab + channel) it just dumps all private messages into active window (ie from an @find)
[08:23] <dooglus> nickrud: it's for testing / bug reporting purposes
[08:23] <nickrud> dooglus, edgy isn't even defined yet
[08:23] <HedgeMage> Anubix: if you have that many chans/pms at a time you might want to consider irssi
[08:23] <dooglus> garryfre: uid=1000,umask=0
[08:23] <Bot_Builde1> ah
[08:24] <Bot_Builde1> I know what it is... drag and drop creates image references
[08:24] <dooglus> nickrud: that's why I'm surprised it was different enough to break anything
[08:24] <Anubix> hedge: i don't have more than 2 to 4 open at once, however, when i do an @find for say... green day in a big room, i can't read the results, 'cause they all get jumbled together in the active chan
[08:24] <garryfre> dooglus Thanks kindly.
[08:24] <Bot_Builde1> and when its working in its own little seperate folder world, those images don't exist
[08:24] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, might want to file a bug w/ OOo, and (if you can) include the file that broke
[08:24] <Bot_Builde1> I will
[08:24] <Geoffrey2> Dirge, as far as I know, Firefox can't download and install plugins itself on Ubuntu...any plugins you need will have to be installed with apt-get or the Synaptic Package Manager
[08:24] <nickrud> dooglus, I've got a spare partition, and, nah, I'm not that masochistic :)
[08:25] <Jimmy89> how can i configure my wireless key to be key#2 using network-monitor?
[08:25] <garryfre> dooglus I put that in fstab I assume?
[08:25] <dooglus> nickrud: my 'fallback' is debian sid ;)
[08:25] <Snowfairy> Ooooh, now I know what Anubix is talking about lol.  Some of the fserves in those channels don't PM you btw.  Some use /notice (which if I remember right will show up in main channel)
[08:25] <dooglus> garryfre: you put it in fstab as part (or all) of the options - ie. the last but 2 field
[08:25] <nickrud> dooglus, that was my only os for many years, more stable than anything else I used during that time.
[08:25] <garryfre> Ok, thanks, will do.
[08:26] <HedgeMage> Anubix: ahh, not sure what to tell you then... I gave up xchat about the time they dragged me on to freenode staff... I have *way* too much junk to keep track of now :P
[08:26] <Jimmy89> anyone know how to make the wep key go into key#2 ??????
[08:26] <Anubix> snowfairy: i goto infomatrix, have been for 7 years, know everyone, and nobody uses notices. trust me they're all coming as /msg's
[08:26] <dooglus> nickrud: I'm not sure if 'stable' is the word for it - 32 package updates so far today...
[08:26] <neutrinomass> Geoffrey2: I have installed firefox plugins from the mozilla.org website, without apt-get. I don't think they need to be packaged - I'm not sure either though.
[08:26] <mcpowley> Has anyone used bastille to "harden" linux? If so, recommend it?
[08:26] <Snowfairy> Anubix, not a clue then :)  I stopped using IRC for file-sharing long ago :P
[08:26] <udo> how can i setup my sound card to work i have a the chipset via82xx
[08:26] <Toge> hello
[08:27] <Anubix> i'm just trying to get stuff, i'm not serving (from my ubuntu-laptop) its just a royal pain in the pa-too to find something with a broad searchstring
[08:27] <nickrud> dooglus, stable is probably the wrong word, usable is closer maybe.
[08:27] <Toge> how can i install a ".bin"? (i downloaded googleearth beta 4 release)
[08:27] <suprchris> I have a radeon 9200pro and the only resolution available is 640x480, can anyone help?
[08:27] <Dirge> ok, this is pissing me off. I'm about to go back to Windows since it actually works.
[08:27] <dooglus> nickrud: yes, it seems very 'reliable', for want of a better word.  constantly changing, but constantly good
[08:27] <Jimmy89> anyone know how to make the wep key go into key#2 ??????
[08:27] <nickrud> Toge, sh ./GoogleEarth.bin
[08:27] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell suprchris about resolution
[08:27] <Geoffrey2> I asked this a while back but got sidetracked on something else and so missed the answer, if one was given....are there any additional ways to configure Power Management settings besides the limited options provided under System>Preferences>Power Management?
[08:27] <Anubix> Toge: i saw ur thread on the forum earlier
[08:27] <Snowfairy> Wish I knew what to tell you, I've not experienced that with X-chat (running 2.6.1)
[08:27] <Toge> thanks nickrud
[08:27] <nickrud> dooglus, nicely put
[08:27] <dooglus> Toge: 1. "chmod +x file.bin"; 2. "./file.bin"
[08:28] <Dirge> Could not open the file /home/dirge/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding.
[08:28] <Toge> i tried ./file-bin but it didnt start
[08:28] <dooglus> Toge: you need to do step 1 before step 2.  did you?
[08:28] <Dirge> I tried every type of character coding, so either Linux is wrong, or Sun Microsystems...
[08:28] <udo> how can i setup my sound card to work i have a the chipset via82xx
[08:29] <mantono> is it possible to assign an application a specific PID?
[08:29] <dooglus> Dirge: what are you trying to do?
[08:29] <Dirge> Install Java
[08:29] <Geoffrey2> neutrinomass, you may be right...I tried having Firefox auto-download the Flash plugin, to have Firefox report the install had failed....dunno
[08:29] <nickrud> Toge, and file-bin is supposed to be the 'file.bin' you downloaded, replace true text for placeholders
[08:29] <neutrinomass> suprchris: The link ubotu gave you will probably sort your issue. In the meantime, can you PLEASE file a bug? Such resolution problems are showstoppers for newbies and should be reported :(
[08:29] <Toge> dooglus, I used "sh ./file.bin", it worked
[08:29] <neutrinomass> Geoffrey2: I think flash is different for some reason :-/
[08:29] <dooglus> Dirge: the package is called 'sun-java5-jre'.  use synaptic or apt-get or aptitude to install it.
[08:30] <Dirge> With Windows all you have to do is click install on Firefox.. Ubuntu, nothing works.
[08:30] <Toge> nickrud, "sh ./file.bin and it worked
[08:30] <dooglus> Toge: that's OK if it's a shell script, but not if it isn't
[08:30] <neutrinomass> Geoffrey2: I installed stuff like tab-improvements etc.
[08:30] <Dirge> I tried Synaptic. it didn't work.
[08:30] <dooglus> Dirge: details?
[08:30] <neutrinomass> Dirge: I take it you restarted firefox, right ?
[08:30] <B1zz> i just did an update on my system now when i run prefrences on firefox i get the following error :  XML Parsing Error: syntax error
[08:30] <B1zz> Location: chrome://browser/content/preferences/preferences.xul
[08:30] <B1zz> Line Number 1, Column 1:ssed = true;
[08:30] <B1zz> ^
[08:30] <Dirge> Yes
[08:30] <B1zz> oppes
[08:30] <Geoffrey2> neutrinomass, are you talking about Plugins, or Firefox extensions?
[08:30] <udo> does anyone have ac97 on borad sound?
[08:31] <Dirge> It wouldn't let me install via Firefox,.
[08:31] <Jimmy89> anyone know how to make the wep key go into key#2 ??????
[08:31] <neutrinomass> Geoffrey2: I'm clueless and it shows. Sorry, I was talking about extensions :(
[08:31] <Dirge> Stuff like this is why I start and stop Linux. I've even taken Linux classes, but nothing works as it should.
[08:32] <cparker> Dirge: I feel your pain...
[08:32] <dooglus> Dirge: where "as it should" means "as I've become accustomed to by years of Windows use"?
[08:32] <Geoffrey2> neutrinomass, no problem...when it comes to Linux in general. I probably am only part way to knowing just enough to be truly dangerous to myself :)
[08:32] <Snowfairy> Dirge I know the feeling :) however, I tend to find things work exactly as they should, just not as one intuitively expects.
[08:32] <Snoops> isn't firefox installed by default on dapper Dirge?
[08:32] <Dirge> Right now half my screen is hidden from me, the 2nd monitor is blank.
[08:32] <Dirge> yes
[08:32] <cparker> dooglus: No, "as it should" means "as it was intended".
[08:33] <Dirge> "as it should" means that the Linux/Firefox button that says install .... INSTALLS.
[08:33] <dooglus> cparker: Dirge seems to be complaining that he can't install a system upgrade using his web browser.  Why should he be able to?
[08:34] <Snowfairy> Dirge, you have to keep in mind that most of the plugins are proprietary.
[08:34] <Dirge> I've tried using the Java .bin... That doesn't work either.
[08:34] <dooglus> cparker: you install system upgrades using the update manager - doesn't that make more sense?  the web browser is for browsing the web.
[08:34] <cparker> dooglus: I would think that when clicking an install button for a Firefox extension fails, that's not the intended result.
[08:34] <Dirge> I've also tried Synaptic, that doesn't work EITHER
[08:34] <dooglus> cparker: he's talking about the java runtime VM
[08:34] <Hoxzer> :)
[08:34] <nickrud> Dirge, just do: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin . This is not windows. do not expect it to be.
[08:34] <loxety> good evening
[08:35] <klauss> hi there,im looking for help-ive got trouble with my working memory :-(
[08:35] <Hhhhhh> question: I have xubuntu draper in my old PII 300Mhz 256MB RAM lappy, and it runs fast enough. Would Ubuntu draper run decently as well, or it would be too slow?
[08:35] <Dirge> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin
[08:35] <Hoxzer> g|) evening
[08:35] <Snowfairy> dirge, you've not added the proper repositories then.
[08:35] <Hoxzer> loxety:  btw it is  9 o'clock here :O
[08:35] <B1zz> when i try to run prefrence setting on firefox i get the following windows that pops up and gives me the following message:  http://pastebin.com/705977
[08:35] <Dirge> I've added all but the source.
[08:35] <dooglus> Dirge: you need to enable the non-free repositories if you want to install non-free software.
[08:35] <nickrud> Dirge, then read !components & !universe following:
[08:35] <nickrud> !components
[08:35] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[08:35] <Geoffrey2> lesse, Sun is in Universe or Multiverse?
[08:35] <nickrud> !universe
[08:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:36] <Bot_Builde1> oh christ
[08:36] <dooglus> Dirge: ubuntu is a free OS by default.  if you want to install filth like Java, you need to explicitly set it up to do so
[08:36] <Jimmy89> and yone here know how to use network-manager well please PM ME!!
[08:36] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, multiverse
[08:36] <Bot_Builde1> its taken me about 10 minutes to find the OO bug report
[08:36] <dooglus> Sun is in Multiverse
[08:36] <Bot_Builde1> and you need to register
[08:36] <Jimmy89> how do you configure it to store a key into key#2 as opposed to key#1?
[08:36] <Iinuxerist> Good Night
[08:36] <concept10> why does ubuntu disable updates in firefox?
[08:36] <Dirge> I have an appication that is Java based.
[08:37] <polpak> Dirge: so install java
[08:37] <Snowfairy> Hhhhhh, on that system I'd probably stick to xubuntu.
[08:37] <Dirge> yeah, Firefox on Linux can't even do Shockwave or Flash automatically.
[08:37] <polpak> Dirge: it's not really a big deal
[08:37] <nickrud> concept10, because you must have root privileges to alter system files.
[08:37] <neutrinomass> concept10: You have to run firefox as sudo ...
[08:37] <Snowfairy> Dirge, again because they are not free software.
[08:37] <Dirge> How do you run Firefox as Sudo?
[08:37] <Geoffrey2> Dirge, Shockwave is not presently supported on Linux, at all
[08:37] <Snoops> you know Dirge firefox on windows can't even do shockwave of flash automatically either :)
[08:37] <nickrud> Dirge, don't. Learn linux, don't expect it to be windows.
[08:37] <Snoops> still needs to be installed seperately
[08:37] <Dirge> But if you click Install Plugin, it installs.
[08:38] <concept10> nickrud, I have firefox installed locally and I dont have to do that
[08:38] <kane77> hi... anyone can help me install alien arena??? I downloaded this .run file but I don't know what to do... and there are no instructions
[08:38] <Bot_Builde1> Why can't I save to my USB drive?
[08:38] <neutrinomass> Dirge: It can. Try Linspire for example ... Firefox comes with all those. But that means that you can't get it for free, and that part of the money you shell out goes to macromedia ...
[08:38] <loxety> anyone able to get Steam.exe working ok?  Trying to follow along with the linux-gamers.net half-life 2 install howto
[08:38] <concept10> I thought they disabled Firefox updates because of gnome integration or something else
[08:38] <Bot_Builde1> I save the file, and it says its there in nautilus
[08:38] <nickrud> concept10, I give advice based on a standard install, if you did a firefox as a local install ..
[08:38] <Bot_Builde1> i unplug the usb, replug, its gone
[08:39] <concept10> nickrud, I installed not as root.  I just unpacked the folder in ~/
[08:39] <Bot_Builde1> dont tell me i need sudo privleges
[08:39] <Dirge> How do I hide the join/part messages here?
[08:39] <nickrud> concept10, precisely.
[08:39] <varun> how to install ppp
[08:39] <Bot_Builde1> thats just great - someone should build a sudo checkbox into the filesaver
[08:39] <varun> ppp?
[08:39] <nickrud> varun, ppp is installed by default, you probably want to run sudo pppconfig
[08:40] <loxety> I've gotten to the part in the howto where you do 'wine SteamInstall.exe'
[08:40] <kholerabbi> Is there a way to block users from accessing Firefox preferences and extensions - or ask for a password?
[08:40] <varun> in fedora 5 I am not able to run pppconfig
[08:40] <nickrud> varun, pppconfig is an ubuntu config tool
[08:40] <loxety> steam installs and I get to what looks like the part where you login but there is no text
[08:40] <udo> does anyone have mutella?
[08:41] <varun> then how to do on fedora 5
[08:41] <nickrud> varun, no clue, ask on #fedora ?
[08:41] <varun> I am write now on edubuntu
[08:41] <polpak> kholerabbi: don't let them log in as you?
[08:41] <udo> does anyone have mutella? i have a problem to make install
[08:41] <Bot_Builde1> actually, when i put the usb drive back in, the file i saved before is 0 bytes
[08:41] <nickrud> varun, then sudo pppconfig
[08:41] <kane77> hi... anyone can help me install alien arena??? I downloaded this .run file but I don't know what to do... and there are no instructions
[08:42] <Toge> do you know a compensatory program for nero vision?
[08:42] <varun> I wanted it for my friends fedora 5
[08:42] <watchie> How do you set your printer settings in Xubuntu? I used to be able to select my printer (an Epson) easily in Ubuntu, but I can't find that same application in Xubuntu... does anybody know how?
[08:42] <loxety> hello
[08:42] <Snoops> Dirge may want to look through http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:42] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: you should unmount it properly. right click on it on the desktop and click eject device....
[08:42] <Bot_Builde1> ah
[08:42] <nickrud> varun, send them to #fedora, we don't do fedora here :)
[08:42] <Bot_Builde1> well, windows always managed it
[08:42] <Flannel> !ubuntuguide
[08:42] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  a bad outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com
[08:42] <Dirge> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin Still
[08:43] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: It's not written synchronously because of limited flash write operations.
[08:43] <varun> is anybody familiar with fedora
[08:43] <Snoops> ah thanks Flannel..
[08:43] <Bot_Builde1> that's smart
[08:43] <Bot_Builde1> but sucks for my habits :P
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> varun: Probably not in an Ubuntu channel...
[08:43] <polpak> Dirge: then you need to enable multiverse
[08:43] <Flannel> Snoops: or wiki.ubuntu.com ;)
[08:43] <Bot_Builde1> especailly when its near midnight and I'm careless
[08:43] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: Sort of, you still get "remove device safely".... I have opened up a spec on this, but nobody has warmed up to it , http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncMount
[08:43] <Anubix> can anyone please help me set the max number of private tabs that can open in xchat?
[08:43] <drumline> varun: very little..  general linux is what you'll get here when you're on Fedora
[08:43] <Hoxzer> is xubuntu meant for older computers?
[08:43] <B1zz> not really
[08:43] <nickrud> un-java5-bin:
[08:43] <nickrud>   Installed: 1.5.0-06-1
[08:43] <nickrud>   Candidate: 1.5.0-06-1
[08:43] <nickrud>   Version table:
[08:43] <nickrud>  *** 1.5.0-06-1 0
[08:43] <nickrud>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[08:43] <Hoxzer> like would it work on 10 year old PC?
[08:44] <drumline> Hoxzer: or minimalist preferences
[08:44] <B1zz> im running it on a 64bit 3500+amd
[08:44] <nickrud> Dirge, fix your sources
[08:44] <Flannel> Hoxzer: not necessarily.  But yeah, it'll work with fewer resources
[08:44] <drumline> Hoxzer: RAM and Video?
[08:44] <varun> drumline: how to configure ppp on fedora
[08:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> anybody know anything about wifi radar?
[08:44] <Hoxzer> Drumline: :D I dont know actually
[08:44] <drumline> Hoxzer: step 1 :)
[08:44] <Hoxzer> I guess ram is somewhere around 64 or 128
[08:44] <udo> how can i setup my sound card to work i have a the chipset via82xx
[08:44] <polpak> varun: ask in #fedora
[08:44] <Hoxzer> but I will check when I get home
[08:44] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: Well, limited writes are not such  problem after all. They can do at LEATS 2 * 10^5 writes from what I read, with the number being closer to 10^6. But fat partitions are so awful that it would probably break sooner or later.
[08:44] <varun> ok
[08:44] <Dirge> What did you type?
[08:44] <drumline> varun: ppp should be part of your networking config..  they will know in #fedora
[08:45] <Arbiter> Hoxzer, xubuntu is a normal ubuntu with a different package set
[08:45] <Bot_Builde1> neutrinomass: very cool
[08:45] <nickrud> Dirge, apt-cache policy sun-java5-bin
[08:45] <neutrinomass> Hoxzer: P100-style computers? Possibly yes.... a little slower, but likely to be usable
[08:45] <Arbiter> (xfce instead of gnome)
[08:45] <Bot_Builde1> I hope that stuff gets in
[08:45] <Arbiter> xfce is smaller, faster and lighter than gnome
[08:45] <Anubix> WIFI RADAR: http://master.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/wifi-radar_1.9.4-0ubuntu6.dsc
[08:45] <Dirge> W: Unable to locate package sun-java5-bin
[08:45] <Arbiter> but has less features too
[08:45] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: Quite unlikely for Edgy. What has been approved AFAIK is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnmountNotifications :)
[08:45] <Anubix> wifi radar http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/
[08:45] <polpak> Dirge: you don't have multiverse enabled
[08:45] <B1zz> but is ver felxiable
[08:46] <B1zz> very*
[08:46] <drumline> Hoxzer: it'll probably only be good for a router or a simple legacy server
[08:46] <polpak> Dirge: or you aren't using dapper
[08:46] <tripppy> !ubuto diskmounter
[08:46] <ubotu> tripppy: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:46] <Flannel> !tell Dirge about java
[08:46] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoUnmountNotifications , wrong link previously
[08:46] <dooglus> Hoxzer: there are minimum xubuntu requirements listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XubuntuDapperReleaseNotes#head-0ca89a2e16807e844ced26dd988f5ef7541d9b15
[08:46] <nickrud> Dirge, fix your sources. Basically, replace everything in /etc/apt/sources.list with the contents of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[08:46] <Snowfairy> geeze... I'm up at 2am playing with my dapper install :/
[08:46] <B1zz> heheh that means your hooked!
[08:46] <dooglus> "To run the Desktop CD at lest 128 megabytes of RAM are required. To use the installed system at least 64 megabytes of RAM is required but 128 is recommended. At least 1.4 gigabytes of disk space is required."
[08:47] <drumline> Snow_Shelter: get yo ayass ta bed!
[08:47] <drumline> Snowfairy:
[08:47] <drumline> ^
[08:47] <nickrud> dooglus, and, if you double every number there, it makes a bit of sense :)
[08:47] <tripppy> dooglus: how do i run diskmounter.sh ?
[08:47] <Bot_Builde1> neutrinomass: Actually, I liked the first one better - if you remove it without unmounting it warns you
[08:47] <Snowfairy> Hehe, I should.  Just.... tonight's the first night I haven't found something to set my slow-arse dialup connection to download.
[08:47] <Flannel> nickrud: beleive thats for Xubuntu, not ubuntu.
[08:47] <Hoxzer> dooglus: I want to run linux smoothly so ... :)
[08:48] <Hoxzer> minimum would not be enough
[08:48] <Snowfairy> So...  I've been desperately looking so as not to waste precious connection time :P
[08:48] <Snowfairy> or something silly like that :P
[08:48] <Flannel> Hoxzer, dooglus, and you can use the alternative CD to install on systems with less RAM
[08:48] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: My spec was about removing the need to unmount altogether. Spec's spec is about notifying (mine was the first, Spec's is the AutoUnmountNotification)
[08:48] <Dirge> Odd, the howto doesn't match my Ubuntu version.
[08:48] <nickrud> Flannel, I've run xfce, that's what I'm talking about
[08:48] <Flannel> nickrud: sounds good
[08:48] <polpak> Dirge: what version are you using?
[08:48] <Dirge> 6.06
[08:48] <steveO_> anyone here use Tripwire?
[08:48] <Dirge> But there's no Settings button
[08:48] <B1zz> when i try to run prefrence setting on firefox i get the following windows that pops up and gives me the following message:  http://pastebin.com/705977
[08:48] <Bot_Builde1> neutrinomass: ah
[08:48] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: I would push the spec if I could get numbers as to the reliability of flash devices, but no such information exists ( that can be truly trusted, that is )
[08:49] <dooglus> tripppy: I never heard of it, but its name suggests it's a shell script.  so "chmod +x diskmounter.sh" and "sh diskmounter.sh"
[08:49] <Geoffrey2> for the Synaptic Package Manager? no, it doesn't match with 6.06
[08:49] <Snowfairy> I think I've moved away from system configs, now just to make everything look pretty (ala silly windows noob finding desktop wallpapers and icons!)
[08:49] <polpak> !java
[08:49] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[08:49] <Bot_Builde1> I dunno, I understand both sides
[08:49] <Bot_Builde1> but at least warn
[08:49] <Bot_Builde1> perhaps sync
[08:49] <Bot_Builde1> anyway off to bed
[08:49] <Dirge> I'm pretty sure I have Multiverse and everything installed, but I went over the howto just in case and it doesn't even look the same.
[08:49] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: goodnight :)
[08:49] <StaindTX> can someone help? I am new to linux. Is Ubuntu good for beginners or should I try a differant one?
[08:49] <nickrud> Flannel, I run low end machines a lot, and that's just enough for real usage, not theoretical
[08:50] <kane77> StaindTX, yes ubuntu's good for beginners...
[08:50] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, Ubuntu is probably the first linux distribution I'd recommend for beginners.
[08:50] <polpak> Dirge: you should have a settings menu option in synaptic
[08:50] <Frogzoo> StaindTX: it's pretty good for beginners, yes - can't recommend a better distro to learn on to be honest
[08:50] <neutrinomass> StaindTX: It's probably the best distro for beginners :)
[08:50] <Dirge> if you're new to Linux buy a version, the free ones require you to fight them tooth and bone just to run normally.
[08:50] <Snowfairy> Second might be Knoppix or such.  Ubuntu is very useful due to it beinga  LiveCD.  you don't have to commit to installing it to test.
[08:50] <xxozxx> how do i get jgrasp applets working?? im used to the way they work in windows? anyone?
[08:50] <neutrinomass> Snowfairy: linspire ?
[08:50] <Dirge> yes, but not in the repository.
[08:50] <asdx> damn I need compiz
[08:51] <Snowfairy> neutrinomass, why on earth would one run that? :P
[08:51] <polpak> !xgl
[08:51] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:51] <nickrud> neutrinomass, linspire has the best media check page I've seen :)
[08:51] <Dirge> In Synaptic, choose the Repositories item in the Settings menu
[08:51] <Dirge> A list of repositories is shown. Click the Settings button at the bottom and tick Show disabled software sources. Then click the Close button.
[08:51] <Dirge> After I click Repositories, there's no more Settings button.
[08:51] <StaindTX> already installed it...messed it up like three times and had to reinstall.. LOL... to dang use to windows.
[08:52] <polpak> Dirge: try edit
[08:52] <xxozxx> anyone know anything about running applets in ubuntu?
[08:52] <Flannel> xxozxx: you mean like gdesklet applets? or what?
[08:52] <polpak> Dirge: or don't even bother with synaptic
[08:52] <Frogzoo> Dirge: click on '6.06 LTS' & "edit" - you'll see universe/multiverse checkboxes - then click "reload"
[08:52] <xxozxx> Flannel, whats gdesklet?
[08:52] <nickrud> StaindTX, yeah, it's a learning cure alright. Worth climing, imho :)
[08:52] <Flannel> Dirge: you're enabling them? you don't need to go to settings, they're already visible
[08:52] <polpak> Dirge: just replace your sources.list with the one nickrud gave you 10 mins ago
[08:52] <xxozxx> Flannel, i was talking about java
[08:53] <udo> Package xine-ui has no installation candidate what is this mean?
[08:53] <StaindTX> anyhow I need to know if it is possible to connect to AOL with ubuntu...if so can someone direct me to a page that has the info?
[08:53] <Frogzoo> !gdesklets
[08:53] <ubotu> gdesklets is probably gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[08:53] <steveO_> AOL as in AIM or AOL as in dialup?
[08:53] <polpak> !info xine-ui
[08:53] <ubotu> xine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.4-0ubuntu6 (dapper), Packaged size: 1567 kB, Installed size: 3512 kB
[08:53] <StaindTX> dialup
[08:53] <Dirge> He gave me a sources.list?
[08:53] <Hoxzer> xx7
[08:53] <Frogzoo> xxozxx: gdesklets are very bling & also quite bugged
[08:53] <polpak> !tell udo about repositories
[08:53] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, I can't say with 100% accuracy, but if you can configure your modem, you should be able to connect to AOL just fine.
[08:53] <Dirge> I'm having a hard time reading this while checking my settings, too many join/part/nick changes.
[08:54] <Flannel> Dirge: you don't need to go to settings, they're already visible, skip down to the enabling/editing universe to includemultiverse
[08:54] <nickrud> Dirge, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[08:54] <polpak> Dirge:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[08:54] <Flannel> StaindTX: I know it's possible, but I don't know the link
[08:54] <xxozxx> Frogzoo, i dont really need bling, but would liketo develope applets on this
[08:54] <Flannel> !tell xxozxx about java
[08:55] <nickrud> I particularly like the preamble
[08:55] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, should just be able to put in your normal dial-up number and then the username and password you use to connect normally and it should be fine... don't think there's anything special about AOL on that level.
[08:55] <Frogzoo> xxozxx: one thing to watch for - make sure your applet can run multiple instances without problems...
[08:55] <Snowfairy> now whether you can browse AOL's services is another thing.
[08:55] <polpak> Dirge: close synaptic and replace /etc/apt/sources.list with the file on the pastebin. Then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[08:55] <xxozxx> be back later...family guy
[08:55] <andrivid> Hey i need help please.
[08:55] <nickrud> Frogzoo, the voice of experience?
[08:55] <polpak> !justask
[08:56] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[08:56] <andrivid> I tried to upgrade glibc by compiling by hand........and now i got this error whenever i try any command.........
[08:56] <StaindTX> well I found loa-aol or something like that...(not on linux hdd) and tryed to compile it but the syntex is all spanish to me...do not know what the errors mean
[08:56] <nickrud> andrivid, reinstall.
[08:56] <andrivid> cant i fix it with live boot?
[08:56] <polpak> andrivid: it will be a lot of trouble
[08:56] <neutrinomass> andrivid: Why did you even try to install glibc like that ?
[08:56] <StaindTX> los-aol...aol dialer
[08:56] <nickrud> andrivid, you probably borked it seriously, glibc is the fundamental library
[08:57] <andrivid> i was installing java jdk by sun, and it needed the newer version i couldtn find it in apt-get so i used source
[08:57] <andrivid> Heres the error /bin/bash: relocation error: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: symbol _dl_out_of_memory, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[08:57] <neutrinomass> andrivid: Generally playing with the toolchain is a big nono. This is hard to fix even on gentoo ...
[08:57] <polpak> andrivid: and why were you installing the jdk like that
[08:57] <Dirge> Great, I have duplicate lists.
[08:57] <Flannel> pengy is in universe, it claims to connect to AOL, StaindTX.  no idea what else it does though
[08:57] <andrivid> i downloaded it from Sun
[08:58] <akudewan> andrivid: Should've apt-getted it
[08:58] <nickrud> andrivid, reinstall. Please, save yourself a lot of time and wasted heartache.
[08:58] <polpak> andrivid: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk works fine
[08:58] <udo> which section is for xine?
[08:58] <polpak> udo universe
[08:58] <andrivid> i odnt want hte gnu version of java..i wanted the sun version
[08:58] <DShepherd> !tell andrivid about java
[08:59] <polpak> andrivid: which part of "sun-java5-jdk" leads you to suspect it's not SUN JAVA 5 ??
[08:59] <andrivid> okay
[08:59] <andrivid> well i didnt know that was there and didnt see it
[08:59] <StaindTX> got pengy but cannot edit the config file for the user name and passy part....every time I run it it keeps giving an error about editing the config file.
[08:59] <nickrud> andrivid, reinstall, come back, and we'll help you get the latest java. But, compiling glibc screwed you over.
[08:59] <neutrinomass> andrivid: Probably the best bet you have is boot from a livecd and copy anything related to libc from the livecd's /lib to your /lib. I'm not sure this will work, it may make matters WORSE (I have never tried it myself)
[08:59] <Jimmy89> storing wep key to key#2 using network-manager
[08:59] <Jimmy89> anyone know how?
[08:59] <neutrinomass> andrivid: How new is the installation ?
[08:59] <Frogzoo> nickrud: yes unfortunately. I'd really like to be able to run weather apps for different cities, with clocks for their respective time zone underneath, but all the desklets crap out but for the last to load
[08:59] <andrivid> Do i dare use a Breezy cd to "Repair Install" a breezy install which was apt-get upgrade'd to Dapper?
[08:59] <Geoffrey2> Dirge, I've had that happen before...minor bug in the way they have the Package Manager set up
[09:00] <udo> where is universe?
[09:00] <polpak> !tell udo about universe
[09:00] <Snowfairy> StaindTX,  probably need to edit the config file by hand before running :)
[09:00] <Frogzoo> nickrud: I should take a screenshot though - it looks pretty impressive - shame it's broken
[09:00] <nickrud> Frogzoo, ah, I've seen that one, I need current weather also.
[09:00] <nickrud> more than one place. It's probably hard to write
[09:00] <andrivid> umm like a month
[09:01] <Dirge> I have a window that I look out to see what the weather is like.
[09:01] <polpak> andrivid: I'd suggest just biting the bullet and dloading the dapper ISO, or re-dist upgrade from breezy again
[09:01] <Snowfairy> Dirge, windows are bad mmmkay? :)
[09:01] <Dirge> It's made of glass. lol
[09:01] <andrivid> i have a 600Mhz machine, anyone know how long it should take for a complete re-install?
[09:01] <Snowfairy> yeah ;p
[09:01] <neutrinomass> andrivid: Hm... that's bad. I was about ot suggest copyin the entire livecd /lib, but this will totally b0rk your system. Simplest way is to reinstall....
[09:01] <neutrinomass> andrivid: An hour ?
[09:01] <Snowfairy> I put my hand through a window last week >.<
[09:01] <Snowfairy> so, windows == bad :P
[09:01] <andrivid> Only an hour?
[09:02] <nickrud> andrivid, less than an hour after the download
[09:02] <Nilsy> andrivid, not much more
[09:02] <Dirge> Yeah, it's that whole, "natural sunlight" that's bad.
[09:02] <andrivid> okay..well i can handle that
[09:02] <polpak> andrivid: the install is pretty fast. The download is what takes time
[09:02] <neutrinomass> andrivid: Fixing this will probably take MUCH longer though :)
[09:02] <Snowfairy> Yes, sunlight would ruin my fair complexion :P
[09:02] <nickrud> oh, so much longer :)
[09:02] <andrivid> Well i can do the dist-upgrade while im using breezy
[09:02] <StaindTX> did that.. still asks about user name and pass. Grrrrrrrrrr can I sue Gates ....dang Windows made me lazy
[09:02] <Nilsy> Snowfairy, your fairy complexion ? ;)
[09:02] <andrivid> I have a dapper cd coming but itll take another 2-3 weeks.
[09:02] <Snowfairy> StaindTX hmmm...
[09:03] <Snowfairy> NIlsy, something like that :)
[09:03] <Nilsy> hihi
[09:03] <Dirge> is there a good Java IDE for Linux?
[09:03] <Snowfairy> Being in Canadia, hiding inside, and liking snow, I'm almost the same color :P
[09:03] <andrivid> Eclipse is good, if you have a fast enough machine
[09:03] <garryfre> Hello. I have this line in my fstab. It keeps mounting ntfs as RW. Why is this doing that??? I've done enough research to explode 400 T1 lines and I can't figure it out ... /dev/sda1	/mnt/Sata1      ntfs	 uid=1000,umask=0,ro 0 0
[09:03] <polpak> Dirge: Jedit works good for an editor.. not really an IDE though
[09:03] <Dirge> Canadia huh? err. Eh?
[09:03] <Snowfairy> Yus, Canadia.
[09:03] <StaindTX> O nother question....
[09:03] <Snowfairy> They're called Canadians, so the country -must- be Canadia.
[09:03] <rpedro> andrivid: try using jigdo to get a dapper iso, it will reuse the package you downloaded during the dist-upgrade
[09:04] <Dirge> hmm, Guess BlueJay would work since it's Java based.
[09:04] <andrivid> do you guys work for ubuntu, or just use it alot?
[09:04] <StaindTX> Opengl support? Ubuntu have that?
[09:04] <polpak> andrivid: use it
[09:04] <rpedro> andrivid: *packages
[09:04] <Snowfairy> andrivid, everyone here is volunteer support :)
[09:04] <polpak> StaindTX: yes
[09:04] <Dirge> Just wondering if there was a platorm specific one.
[09:04] <garryfre> Its been three days and I'm am at the end of my rope, and am ready to delete this daper and go back to breezy.
[09:04] <Madpilot> andrivid, just lots of users here :)
[09:04] <polpak> StaindTX: assuming your video card has good drivers
[09:04] <Madpilot> StaindTX, of course
[09:04] <rpedro> andrivid: I just use it ;)
[09:04] <andrivid> whaqts jigdo?
[09:04] <nickrud> andrivid, use it a lot, but some of the paid guys come thru on aliases now and then
[09:04] <StaindTX> O greatttttttttttttttt now I gotta worry bout that LOL
[09:04] <garryfre> Or shall I gcall it Diaper.
[09:05] <StaindTX> *gets out aspirin*
[09:05] <kane77> hi... I have a problem... I exited game and my resolution stayed at 640*480 what can I do? it looks like i;m zoomed in... I can scroll around the screen...
[09:05] <polpak> kane77: system->preferences->screen resolution
[09:05] <Frogzoo> garryfre: mount it & look for msgs in /var/log/messages - from here it looks like you have wierd ctrl chars in that line
[09:05] <polpak> kane77: just change it, then change it back
[09:05] <rpedro> andrivid: it's a download manager that creates the dapper alternate iso by downloading the individual packages
[09:05] <garryfre> Hello. I have this line in my fstab. It keeps mounting ntfs as RW. Why is this doing that??? I've done enough research to explode 400 T1 lines and I can't figure it out ... /dev/sda1	/mnt/Sata1      ntfs	 uid=1000,umask=0,ro 0 0
[09:05] <nickrud> kandinski, try hitting clt-alt-plus/minus on the numpad
[09:05] <andrivid> would i need to download jigdo?
[09:05] <garryfre> hmmm
[09:05] <NZheretic> Is there any mirror for the stable version of EasyUbuntu ? freecontrib.org is down.
[09:06] <nickrud> herm, kane77 try hitting clt-alt-plus/minus on the numpad
[09:06] <rpedro> andrivid: you can normally get the .jigdo file where you downoad the dapper iso
[09:06] <garryfre> well, I've had enough of that. I'm going back to breezy tomorrow.
[09:06] <kane77> polpak, and what can I do to prevent this from happening... cause It happens everytime...
[09:06] <udo> i have dapper release and i want install xine how can i do that?
[09:06] <polpak> kane77: what game is it?
[09:06] <nickrud> kane77, it's a bug in the game
[09:07] <yintz> hi
[09:07] <yintz> hello everyone
[09:07] <nickrud> udo, install xine-ui
[09:07] <polpak> udo, I told you already. Install the universe repository and then install the package
[09:07] <polpak> udo ubotu msged you with the howto
[09:07] <simbad> Hello. I tried to upgrade from badger to dapper using "update-manager -d". But it says only, my system would be uptodate. Any ideas whats wrong? (I havent touched the sources.list so far)
[09:07] <jani_> udo, or sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[09:07] <polpak> !tell simbad about upgrade
[09:08] <Jimmy89> hey guys
[09:08] <kane77> polpak, its alien arena
[09:08] <Jimmy89> what other wifi gui clients are there
[09:08] <polpak> kane77: hrm. never played it
[09:08] <Nichirasu> I seem to be receiving an error in the terminal window whenever I close out ettercap, I'm using Ubuntu 6.0.6
[09:08] <Nichirasu> heres the error
[09:08] <StaindTX> Grrrrr I need to get "Ubuntu for Dummies" book
[09:08] <Nichirasu> http://pastebin.com/706009
[09:09] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, I'd but it too if there was one :)
[09:09] <jani_> <<< running Google Earth on Dapper :)
[09:09] <spacey> there are several ubuntu books
[09:09] <suprchris> can someone help with the numlock
[09:09] <Nichirasu> I'm doing this all from the root account
[09:09] <spacey> i have one here from apress, its really for new users
[09:09] <nickrud> jani_, good on you :)
[09:09] <spacey> and there is also an official ubuntu book
[09:09] <Nichirasu> any help would greatly be appreciated
[09:09] <Frogzoo> !docs
[09:09] <Nichirasu> thanks
[09:09] <ubotu> [docs]  an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[09:09] <StaindTX> where did you get them?
[09:09] <Snowfairy> spacey, seriously?  I didn't know, can you link me to places to buy?
[09:10] <spacey> Snowfairy: your favourite bookshop
[09:10] <StaindTX> Hmmmmmmm
[09:10] <Snowfairy> spacey, well, I'd need the names regardless... I live in the middle of nowhere, closest bookstore is 200km away or so :P
[09:10] <suprchris> i can't find the numlockx program, help?
[09:10] <Snowfairy> and, they don't have a huge computer selection :)
[09:10] <spacey> Snowfairy: order online =)
[09:10] <DarthMorlock> www.amazon.com
[09:10] <garryfre> Hello. I have this line in my fstab. It keeps mounting ntfs as RW. Why is this doing that??? I've done enough research to explode 400 T1 lines and I can't figure it out ... /dev/sda1	/mnt/Sata1      ntfs	 uid=1000,umask=0,ro 0 0
[09:10] <StaindTX> Dang Snow where are you?
[09:10] <nickrud> Nichirasu, you are not runnig ettercap as root (or as sudo)
[09:11] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, Goodlands, MB.
[09:11] <Snowfairy> (MB = Manitoba)
[09:11] <StaindTX> O heck LOL Hello from Texas
[09:11] <polpak> garryfre: and did you do what Frogzoo suggested?
[09:11] <spacey> http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=br_ss_hs/002-8518201-4765608?platform=gurupa&url=index%3Dblended&keywords=Ubuntu&Go.x=10&Go.y=10&Go=Go
[09:11] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, my computer's in texas :P (dallas to be exact)
[09:11] <Snowfairy> spacey, sanks :)
[09:11] <Geoffrey2> is there any way to force Ubuntu to power down a laptop's wired NIC when running on battery?
[09:11] <loxety> why is x-window-system-dev missing from apt-get?
[09:12] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, left my system with friends in Dallas before I came up to Canadia, just trying to get it mailed sometime now :P
[09:12] <garryfre>  polpak yes, no, no information found.
[09:12] <polpak> loxety: there's xorg-dev and xserver-xorg-dev
[09:12] <Frogzoo> garryfre: ru on a mac?
[09:12] <StaindTX> Ahhhhh lol Arlington here to be exact...
[09:12] <Snowfairy> yikes, expensive books :o
[09:13] <suprchris> I have a menial problem but I'm trying to learn to do this stuff on my own can someone help please?
[09:13] <steko> hi
[09:13] <loxety> polok, those are the newer packages for xorg?
[09:13] <steko> evolution is not starting at all since this morning
[09:13] <nickrud> loxety, it's been broken out differently, I'm still looking also
[09:13] <garryfre> Frogzoo no, pc
[09:13] <polpak> suprchris: just ask your question. we'll try to answer it
[09:13] <Frogzoo> garryfre: please delete your fstab line & retype - I'm seeing wierd ctrl characters maybe you can't see
[09:14] <burepe2> What is the command to unload a driver? I guess the opposite of 'modprobe'?
[09:14] <robert_> whee
[09:14] <Frogzoo> burepe2: rmmod
[09:14] <loxety> trying to get Steam (Half-Life 2) working with wine ;)
[09:14] <garryfre> mount -a
[09:14] <garryfre> argh
[09:14] <robert_> I like the ubuntu setup process
[09:14] <nickrud> loxety, I think it's currently xserver-xorg-dev
[09:14] <polpak> robert_: I would also if it didn't lock up after the partitioner.
[09:14] <burepe2> Frogzoo: thanks
[09:14] <loxety> nickrud, thank you
[09:15] <garryfre> I'm getting so rummy from fighting this thing I am typing stuff in xchat that goes to terminal
[09:15] <Frogzoo> burepe2: yw
[09:15] <robert_> heh
[09:15] <polpak> robert_: but it is nice you can play games and chat online while it's installing
[09:15] <udo>  i must enable multiverse or universe repositories?
[09:15] <calamari> hi
[09:15] <m_0_r_0_n> Hi, what do I need to read a normal video-dvd. Linux is not able to read the content of the dvd, but windows does.
[09:15] <polpak> udo, universe
[09:15] <suprchris> I can't find or download numlockx using either synaptic or apt-get
[09:15] <polpak> !tell m_0_r_0_n about dvd
[09:15] <nickrud> loxety, tell me if it's wrong, please :)
[09:15] <loxety> was also looking for msttcorefonts
[09:15] <udo> for xine
[09:16] <polpak> actually m_0_r_0_n
[09:16] <nickrud> loxety, it's still there, in the multiverse section
[09:16] <loxety> nickrud, found the xorg-dev and xserver-xorg-dev
[09:16] <kiroh> can you help me??? i have problems usin totem
[09:16] <polpak> !tell m_0_r_0_n about restricted
[09:16] <garryfre> Retyped lines, same crap, everythign is mounted as RW including ntfs
[09:16] <polpak> just follow the restricted wiki
[09:16] <m_0_r_0_n> polpak, ok, I try it
[09:16] <suprchris> can anyone helop me with apt-get or synaptic?
[09:16] <calamari> how do I change the menu Quit button so that Shutdown does a shutdown instead of a Log Out?
[09:16] <DShepherd> nite guys
[09:16] <burepe2> suprchris: just ask away
[09:16] <polpak> m_0_r_0_n: the restricted wiki should get dvd's and other windows formats working
[09:16] <udo> i want from the command line how can i enable universe repositories
[09:17] <Geoffrey2> ok, every time I log on to Ubuntu, I have to unlock the keyring so that my wireless device can access the network...is there any way to automate that during startup?
[09:17] <schrodinger> Oyo !
[09:17] <kiroh> i have alredy install all the pakages for restricted formats and i can only hear the sound
[09:17] <someothernick> you need codec
[09:17] <calamari> Geoffrey2: is it something you type in?
[09:17] <Frogzoo> garryfre: also, should read        "/dev/sda1 /mnt/Sata1      ntfs uid=1000,umask=000,ro 0 0"
[09:17] <polpak> kiroh: then you didn't install the right formats. And/or you may need to install totem-xine
[09:18] <udo> i want from the command line how can i enable universe repositories?
[09:18] <polpak> udo read the link ubotu sent you
[09:18] <Madpilot> udo, type 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' first, then copy & paste this pastebin in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[09:18] <rohan> i am on the 'desktop' cd .. suppose i install a program, say mpg321, and i then go ahead and install dapper to the hdd, will mpg321 be install too ?
[09:18] <polpak> !tell udo about universe
[09:18] <dooglus> rohan: good question.  I think probably not, but I don't know.
[09:18] <nickrud> kiroh, if it's a wma file, it's probably because the guys that reverse engineer media haven't got that one right yet.
[09:19] <loxety> Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package. E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[09:19] <polpak> rohan: depends on where you installed your program to, and whether or not you format your partition before installing
[09:19] <rohan> dooglus: if they are, then the cd isntaller ubiquity rocks
[09:19] <rohan> polpak: i used apt-get install mpg321
[09:19] <nickrud> rohan, if you installed it with apt, yes it will automatically update to the latest with a dapper upgrade
[09:19] <loxety> I should have access to uni and multi verses
[09:20] <polpak> !info msttcorefonts
[09:20] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[09:20] <Geoffrey2> calamari, once I've logged in, a window will pop up telling...lesse...something about nm (the network manager) trying to access the keyring, but it's locked...so I need to type in my password to unlock the keyring
[09:20] <polpak> loxety: they're there
[09:20] <rohan> nickrud: i am not upgrading anything
[09:20] <nickrud> rohan, assuming all repos are enabled, but for that one yes
[09:20] <rohan> its a fresh install
[09:20] <polpak> rohan: if you don't upgrade then you'll have to reinstall your optional packages
[09:20] <loxety> for some reason its not installing
[09:20] <calamari> Geoffrey2: oic.. I'm sorry, I don't know then.  Keyring is KDE, right?
[09:20] <nickrud> rohan, fresh install = all previous is erased
[09:21] <polpak> loxety: you must not have your repos enabled or you haven't run apt-get update
[09:21] <rohan> polpak, nickrud: yes, but changes to the live cd environment are not reflected in the subsequent install ?
[09:21] <calamari> Geoffrey2: not that high tech, don't have a wireless laptop.. hehe
[09:21] <StaindTX> BRB
[09:21] <armedking> Anyone else having problem in getting 3d working on an ati card, Just want you to know i fixed it.
[09:21] <nickrud> rohan, absolutely not, in fact, changes to the live cd do not persist across live cd runs
[09:21] <polpak> rohan: no
[09:22] <rohan> nickrud: not across live cd runs !
[09:22] <kiroh> and i had the same problem in breezy
[09:22] <rohan> nickrud: across the subsequent install
[09:22] <m_0_r_0_n> polpak, all source list link are not uptodate :-(
[09:22] <polpak> rohan: if you reboot anything you do on the live cd will go away. it's a live cd. it doesn't touch the hard drive
[09:22] <nickrud> rohan, or putting the live cd in and running it again
[09:22] <polpak> m_0_r_0_n: hrm?
[09:22] <loxety> polok, I checket in /etc/apt/sources.list and all the binary sources are un remarked
[09:23] <kiroh> please help me ...
[09:23] <m_0_r_0_n> polpak, Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/list_of_sections/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[09:23] <Frogzoo> armedking: works fine for radeons > 8500 with the fglrx driver
[09:23] <rohan> polpak, nickrud : you dont seem to get me -- i am on a live cd session (as i am now), and i make a change (apt-get install mpg321) and i am installing dapper now without rebooting - will the program be there in the hdd install too ?
[09:23] <Dirge_> Whew, Java working (kinda)... Now to get Wireless working. lol
[09:23] <polpak> loxety: but you still have to add multiverse to the repo
[09:23] <nickrud> rohan, no
[09:23] <rohan> nickrud: ok
[09:23] <polpak> loxety: and it's polpak, not polok ;p
[09:23] <loxety> polok, how can do that?
[09:23] <polpak> !tell loxety about repositories
[09:24] <rohan> nickrud: but if the cd essentially just copies the live environment to the hdd, should the program not be there ?
[09:24] <Geoffrey2> I believe it's because my wireless network is encrypted, and apparently it locks away the encryption key until I put in my password to unlock the keyring....I understand it's a good security measure, but for a computer nobody else uses on a private household network, it's just a pain
[09:24] <armedking> Frogzoo: Yes but people who need mesa or something when they do, It's all screwed up and open source doesnt work anymore there are a lot of people with this problem.
[09:24] <loxety> polpak, sorry
[09:24] <polpak> rohan: no, it doesn't do that
[09:24] <rohan> nickrud: how would the installer find a pristine copy of the live environment ?
[09:24] <andrivid> HOLY SHOT
[09:24] <rohan> polpak: then how would the installer find a pristine copy of the live environment ?
[09:24] <loxety> polpak, thanks!!
[09:24] <andrivid> i typed tar -c programming, and the entire shell is now in some weird language showing mostly squares
[09:24] <Frogzoo> armedking: agreed - driver support isn't great - but as I say, it greatly depends which card u have
[09:24] <nickrud> rohan, no, it doesnt'work that way, as I understand it. I may be wrong, but I'd bet money
[09:24] <Dirge_> Anyone have a link to how to use NDISWrapper?
[09:25] <nickrud> !ndiswrapper
[09:25] <Madpilot> !ndiswrapper
[09:25] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:25] <polpak> andrivid: control characters are fun
[09:25] <Madpilot> heh
[09:25] <rohan> nickrud: ok :)
[09:25] <nickrud> sloow again :)
[09:25] <Frogzoo> andrivid: 'reset'   or 'stty sane'   or 'echo ctrl v esc c'   - take your pick
[09:25] <Dirge_> What's the ! thing for?
[09:25] <andrivid> WTF happened lol
[09:25] <Dirge_> !ndiswrapper
[09:25] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:25] <kiroh> everyone know why i cant see avi, mpg and mpeg files with totem??? (i have all the drivers installes)
[09:25] <Frogzoo> Dirge_: the ! gets ubotus attention
[09:26] <armedking> Frogzoo: I have a radeon 9200se the driver from ati has a major bug in it and it doenst use 3d so i solved it by getting an old libGL.so.1.2 and copying it to /usr/lib/ reboot and it worked
[09:26] <Dirge_> Ah, ok. Thanks
[09:26] <garryfre> Thanks Frogzoo, That worked. I had to umount to get it to get to read only. I feel like I've been trying to debug a 50000 million line batch file written in mandarin.
[09:26] <nickrud> Dirge, there's a bot who hold info here, ! tells him it's a question he should answer
[09:26] <rohan> !suspend2
[09:26] <ubotu> suspend2 is probably at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75443
[09:26] <Dirge_> Yeah, thanks. X-Chat doesn't show users in channel.
[09:26] <Frogzoo> garryfre: well, that's a resolution anyhow, thankfully
[09:27] <nickrud> Dirge, sure it does, to the right
[09:27] <Dirge_> Don't see it. Wish it did like mIRC does.
[09:27] <rohan> hmm.. i wonder why the dapper final cd is booting so slowly, compared to teh dapper rc :S
[09:27] <garryfre> Yep, thanks to you. :)
[09:27] <Snowfairy> Here's a question... sometimes apps start flashing... and they -don't- stop.
[09:27] <kiroh> please help me, when you don't help me i will be forced to use windows :(
[09:27] <polpak> Dirge_: you using xchat, or xchat-gnome?
[09:28] <nickrud> Dirge, make sure you're using xchat, not xchat-gnome
[09:28] <Frogzoo> garryfre: yw, enjoy
[09:28] <Snowfairy> How the heck do I get them to stop that? :(
[09:28] <Dirge_> x-chat gnome
[09:28] <loxety> I have ubuntu 6.06 installed
[09:28] <calamari> how do I change the menu Quit button so that Shutdown does a shutdown instead of a Log Out?
[09:28] <ANubix> whats the difference between xchat and xchat gnome?
[09:28] <rohan> someone change !suspend2 to point to - http://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/dapper-kernels/ - please !
[09:28] <kiroh> :'(
[09:28] <higen> hey, anyone know how i can force a diskcheck at boot in ubuntu?
[09:28] <Dirge_> Where do I find the regular version?
[09:28] <nickrud> x-chat gnome is crap, Dirge. A nice idea, lousy execution
[09:28] <polpak> kiroh: can't help if you don't ask a question
[09:28] <nickrud> Dirge, it's in universe, sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:28] <calamari> higen: every bot, or just once?
[09:28] <akudewan> Snowfairy: what exactly do u mean by "flashing" ?
[09:28] <suprchris> how do i use synaptic
[09:29] <loxety> is there an updated guide to adding repositories?
[09:29] <calamari> higen: bot->boot
[09:29] <Snowfairy> akudewan, well, the part in the panel.  it flashses.
[09:29] <kiroh> how can i see avi and mpg files with totem???
[09:29] <Snowfairy> grows bright, and then goes dim
[09:29] <higen> calamari: just once.. .. but if i know how to do it.. i can turn it off and on :)
[09:29] <garryfre> fschk if I recall
[09:29] <Madpilot> kiroh, with w32codecs
[09:29] <nickrud> higen, sudo touch /forcefsck I think
[09:29] <Snowfairy> and it just keeps doing that...  again and again and again and again and again....
[09:29] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell kiroh about restricted
[09:29] <kiroh> i have this pakage installed
[09:29] <higen> nickrud:  sounds good i will try that
[09:29] <calamari> higen: you can use tune2fs to set how often the disk must be checked
[09:29] <Dirge_> uninstalling this xchat. brb
[09:30] <polpak> loxety: bah, that one is out of date.. just use the pastebin url for dapper and replace your sources.list with that one
[09:30] <akudewan> Snowfairy: that will happen when the window demands attention, for instance whenever someone says your name in xchat, you will see the flashing
[09:30] <higen> tune2fs sounds good aswell
[09:30] <Snowfairy> akudewan, yes, I understand that.  but, it doesn't stop.
[09:30] <Snowfairy> even after I look at it.
[09:30] <suprchris> I need help with numlockx
[09:30] <Frogzoo> higen: tune2fs -c 1 /dev/hd#
[09:30] <akudewan> u use KDE or gnome ?
[09:30] <Snowfairy> not to mention I don't really need a window to say look at me unless I really want to monitor it anyways :P
[09:30] <loxety> polpak, pastebin url for dapper?
[09:30] <Snowfairy> Gnome
[09:31] <jani_> you might be interested peeps.. Google just released Google Earth Beta 4 for Linux :)
[09:31] <robert_> hm
[09:31] <nickrud> jani_, old news, at least 12 hours old ;)
[09:31] <robert_> what gives with the Ubuntu "You may not enter an underscore" rule inside the installer?
[09:32] <suprchris> how do i download numlockx?
[09:32] <benplaut> !find numlockx
[09:32] <jani_> nickrud, just read my mails :)
[09:32] <ubotu> numlockx: (enable NumLock in X11 sessions), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 88 kB
[09:32] <rohan> suprchris: apt-get install numlockx ?
[09:32] <Madpilot> suprchris, it's in Ubuntu's repos, just install it w/ apt-get or Synaptic
[09:32] <suprchris> i can't find it in synaptc
[09:32] <nickrud> Frogzoo, does the touching of the forcefsck in / still work (haven't tried it recently)
[09:32] <suprchris> and apt-get says something to that effect too
[09:33] <akudewan> Snowfairy: maybe if you change some settings you can make it stop, I don't use gnome, so I can't give you exact instructions
[09:33] <StaindTX> Can I dl the updates here in windows burn on cd and install in UBUNTU?
[09:33] <Snowfairy> akudewan, searching throught gconf-editor, can't seem to find anything ;(
[09:33] <kiroh> please i have read restricted formats before and i have installed all the pakages and totem plays nothing
[09:33] <Madpilot> suprchris, do  you have Universe repo enabled?
[09:34] <udo> how can i install universe repositories from the command line?
[09:34] <nickrud> StaindTX, yes, but it's not trivial, and probably not worth it
[09:34] <suprchris> i don't know
[09:34] <Jaak_> how come Rhythmbox says that all my mp3's are not valid, but totem has no problem with them?
[09:34] <Dirge> AH, much better..
[09:34] <suprchris> send me a link on how i guess
[09:34] <loxety> polpak, ok I see
[09:34] <Ayabara> I'm stuck in windows at work, and want to run vmware player with a dapper image. anyone know where I can download a prebuilt image?
[09:34] <dooglus> udo: you don't install repositories.  you enable repositories, or install packages.  which do you want?
[09:34] <Matthewv> Ayabara, try a search on the wiki, someone has written a guide i think
[09:35] <dooglus> udo: a repository is a collection of packages
[09:35] <polpak> loxety: once you do that just sudo apt-get update and you should be good
[09:35] <Ayabara> Matthewv: ok, thanks
[09:35] <akudewan> Snowfairy: I think this is a bug, have a look at this page: https://launchpad.net/products/libwnck/+bug/31134
[09:35] <nickrud> Jaak_, have you looked at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats yet? That should get going in rhythmbox
[09:35] <udo> enable repositories
[09:35] <StaindTX> LMFAO ok new here what the heck is wiki? I heard of wifi but not wiki
[09:35] <dooglus> udo: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <Frogzoo> nickrud: grep forcefsk /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh        that's a cool trick - didn't know that was there...
[09:35] <kiroh> please help me, when you don't help me i will be forced to use windows :(
[09:35] <snoops> it's a wiki wiki web StaindTX.. you haven't been to wikipedia?!
[09:35] <Matthewv> StaindTX, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[09:35] <Jaak_> ok thanks
[09:36] <nickrud> Frogzoo, it's an old debian trick ...
[09:36] <Snowfairy> staindtx wiki is kinda like a colloboratively edited website.  Very neat.
[09:36] <cparker> question... with the /media directory in place, what is the purpose of the /mnt directory?
[09:36] <robert_> what's the default root pw for ubuntu?
[09:36] <Matthewv> StaindTX, it is a user-editable documentation repository
[09:36] <kiroh> :'(
[09:36] <kiroh> :'(
[09:36] <kiroh> :'(
[09:36] <StaindTX> ahhhhh ok
[09:36] <loxety> polpak, yes that seems to have fixed it thank you
[09:36] <cparker> robert_, there is none.
[09:36] <Snowfairy> akudewan, taking a look. :)
[09:36] <StaindTX> Well like I said snow...New.... got UBUNTU from a friend he sd to try it out and here I am LOL
[09:37] <cparker> robert_, take a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:37] <udo> how can i enable?
[09:37] <StaindTX> so basically all the language is spanish to me right now...but I will learn in time
[09:37] <Madpilot> kiroh, start Totem, go Help->About - does it mention 'xine' or 'gstreamer'?
[09:37] <robert_> cparker: then how come I can't login as root?
[09:37] <robert_> ah
[09:37] <watson540> .
[09:37] <Dirge> The default root pw for Ubuntu is random. You use sudo until you set the root password yourself.
[09:37] <kiroh> yes GStreamer 0.10.6
[09:38] <nickrud> which you should never do, setting a root password.
[09:38] <Matthewv> Ayabara, additionally, you might want to look at http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/   vmware has a number of operating systems available for download and running, ubuntu 5.10 is there, I'm not sure about dapper
[09:38] <watson540> 0
[09:38] <watson540> .++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[09:38] <funkmaster> hey people :D I have some trouble with flumotion, has anyone ever used it? somehow the flumotion manager makes probles, could use some help--
[09:38] <polpak> don't set the root password. Use sudo
[09:38] <Dirge> Why wouldn't you want a root password?
[09:38] <polpak> Dirge: why would you?
[09:38] <cparker> Dirge: because root is dangerous.
[09:38] <udo> how can i enable universe repositories for xine support?
[09:38] <Casanova> ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin: ./setup.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[09:38] <StaindTX> Opppssss...
[09:38] <Casanova> what does the above error mean?
[09:38] <dooglus> polpak: you would want one so that when your sudo stops working, you have a fallback
[09:38] <udo> or install the packages
[09:38] <StaindTX> Been messin in root sense the beginning
[09:39] <polpak> dooglus: that's what rescue mode is for
[09:39] <dooglus> polpak: I don't have a rescue mode
[09:39] <nickrud> Dirge, it's a target for hackers. They probably won't try to force the password of a random user on a machine that has admin privs
[09:39] <polpak> dooglus: if sudo stops working something is wrong
[09:39] <Dirge> Same here. I'm not used to having no control over my OS. (I don't use Mac)
[09:39] <akudewan> Snowfairy: I found a way to disable it: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/113
[09:39] <dooglus> polpak: yes.  it comes up here a lot though.
[09:39] <polpak> Dirge: sudo gives you plenty of control
[09:39] <jani_> udo, run synaptic... Settings >>> Repositories... check the Universe and Multiverese ... close it then do update
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <loxety> couldnt find the package libfontsconfig1-dev in apt-get
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <Snowfairy> akudewan thank you very much :)
[09:39] <Madpilot> kiroh, stop.
[09:39] <akudewan> np :)
[09:39] <Frogzoo> kiroh: naughty naughty
[09:39] <dooglus> polpak: ubuntu doesn't stop me deleting the last admin user.
[09:40] <nickrud> dooglus, yeah, people that mess with /etc/hosts badly
[09:40] <kiroh> then please help
[09:40] <polpak> dooglus: true enough
[09:40] <dooglus> polpak: once nobody is left in the admin group, there's no more sudo access allowed
[09:40] <stevekl> Can someone show me how I actually get to the wireless AP listing part of network-manager?
[09:40] <stevekl> I can't figure this program out
[09:40] <kiroh> whi noone answer???
[09:40] <Ayabara> Matthewv: that's what I saw too. guess I'll run fc5 if I can't find dapper
[09:40] <cparker> kiroh: did you ask a question?
[09:40] <polpak> dooglus: that's why there's rescue mode
[09:40] <dooglus> polpak: how do I run rescue mode?
[09:40] <Madpilot> dooglus, that's what recovery console is for...
[09:40] <nickrud> dooglus, or recovery disks
[09:40] <kiroh> please i have read restricted formats before and i have installed all the pakages and totem plays nothing
[09:40] <Ademan> i'm trying to access my vsftpd server through WAN, but i can't seem to get it to work, my server is behind 2 routers, so in both routers i opened TCP 20, 21 and 44000 - 44128 for pasv,  and vsftp is aware of the 44000-44128 limitation,  yet I can't connect through wan, what might be up?
[09:40] <udo> jani_ why multiverse?
[09:40] <Madpilot> dooglus, thru GRUB
[09:40] <higen> thanks.. that worked :)
[09:40] <Matthewv> Ayabara, k, hope it works well for you
[09:40] <polpak> dooglus: reboot and select it from the grub menu
[09:40] <dooglus> Madpilot: recovery console?  isn't that a windows program?
[09:40] <dooglus> Madpilot: GRUB won't work on this PC
[09:41] <Ayabara> Matthewv: me to :-)
[09:41] <Madpilot> dooglus, whatever it's called - the option in GRUB
[09:41] <kiroh> why totem plays nothing???
[09:41] <dooglus> I use LILO.  Can I still get rescue mode?
[09:41] <nickrud> me rolls around, seriously laughing
[09:41] <Ademan> kiroh: because you want mplayer, OR totem-xine
[09:41] <funkmaster> kroh: install vlc
[09:41] <nickrud> dooglus, yes, just boot lnx-bbc and edit /etc/hosts and fix it
[09:41] <kiroh> what is the diference???
[09:41] <Ademan> i personally prefer totem-xine because its prettier
[09:41] <dooglus> nickrud: lnx-bbc?  what's that?
[09:41] <polpak> kiroh: which is hilarious, since I told you to install totem-xine like 30 mins ago
[09:41] <funkmaster> much better and no codec trouble, build in..
[09:41] <nickrud> dooglus, a seriously ancient live boot disk
[09:41] <vith> hi. where do i find the kernel log when running from 6.06 livecd?
[09:42] <Matthewv> dooglus, or you could boot the ubuntu desktop cd or install cd, either chroot into partition or just boot rescue
[09:42] <kiroh> but that is not the same that totem???
[09:42] <crimsun_> vith: /var/log/kern.log
[09:42] <polpak> kiroh: no
[09:42] <kiroh> sorry i'am new
[09:42] <kiroh> ok i will install that
[09:42] <dooglus> nickrud: I'd rather have the root password set for such an emergency, rather than downloading and booting an unknown live cd...  where's the greater risk?
[09:42] <nickrud> dooglus, I keep it for archival purposes, just use any live cd, lke knopix
[09:42] <Geoffrey2> I tried to edit the sources.list, and the response is unknown mime type -- using "application/*"
[09:42] <cparker> so, what's the difference between /media and /mnt? is /mnt even necessary anymore?
[09:43] <mcpowley> does anyone have any experience with running bastille on their system? Is it worth trying out?
[09:43] <Geoffrey2> I presume that means it has no idea what to open that file type with?
[09:43] <nickrud> *knoppix
[09:43] <Dirge> hmm, I can't seem to select WPA2 on my wireless settings.
[09:43] <Frogzoo> kiroh: dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs libdvdc22s streamer0.10-plugins-ugly totem-xine
[09:43] <dooglus> cparker: none of them are strictly necessary.  you can make and use /yourbutt/ instead if you want to
[09:43] <Dirge> It only allows for WEP.
[09:43] <Frogzoo> kiroh: check you have them all
[09:43] <bulltitan> i can't control the volume level by using key shortcuts (sound card sound blaster live 24)
[09:43] <kiroh> ok
[09:43] <_nano_> !apache
[09:43] <ubotu> apache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:43] <funkmaster> flumotion anyone??
[09:43] <polpak> dooglus: fine, you install root if you like. But for most users (who will use GRUB, will have a rescue mode, and will not know how to properly secure their system) they're better off using sudo
[09:44] <Frogzoo> ubotu fixxine is dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs libdvdc22s streamer0.10-plugins-ugly totem-xine
[09:44] <ubotu> Frogzoo: okay
[09:44] <dooglus> polpak: I'm not suggesting installing anything extra.  I'm just setting my root password.
[09:44] <polpak> dooglus: and you are welcome too. But it's not recommended
[09:44] <bulltitan> any ideas? i think it might be something realted to gstreamer but what do i know i'm almost a newbie
[09:44] <dooglus> polpak: I use sudo too.  I just like to have a root password set for when things go wrong.
[09:44] <Frogzoo> ubotu no, fixxine is dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs libdvdcss2 streamer0.10-plugins-ugly totem-xine
[09:44] <ubotu> okay, Frogzoo
[09:44] <nickrud> dooglus, a fair point. But, please, document and support what's used here.
[09:44] <polpak> dooglus: I'd rather have a rescue mode, or a boot cd. Cause those will be much more likely to help
[09:45] <dooglus> polpak: I'd like a rescue mode too, but it doesn't work for me - or at least, I don't know how to get into it if it does.
[09:45] <garryfre> The live CD version of dapper has a rescue mode.
[09:45] <dooglus> garryfre: it does?
[09:46] <nickrud> dooglus, well, write a stanza for lilo that matches the one from grub: booting into single user mode, assuming no root password set.
[09:46] <Dirge> Does Ubuntu support WPA2?
[09:46] <bulltitan> anybody has aounf issues like this in ubuntu with this sound card? please i can use the one onboard but it sounds like a bean can
[09:46] <garryfre> Yeah, I stumbled on it today, Oh scuse, its the alternate install cd that has a rescue mode.
[09:46] <Geoffrey2> how do I go about editing the sources.list?
[09:46] <dooglus> nickrud: what does the grub stanza say?
[09:46] <robert_> hm
[09:47] <kiroh> thanks ... but i will do that tomorrow
[09:47] <kiroh> bye
[09:47] <robert_> I would like a regex expression to allow _ inside usernames :/
[09:47] <dooglus> robert_: for what program?
[09:47] <nickrud> dooglus, relevant line: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hdb2 ro single
[09:47] <udo> which is the url tutorial for xine setup?
[09:47] <StaindTX> ok people....I am outta here...need to bootup ub laterz all
[09:47] <robert_> dooglus: adduser, heh
[09:48] <bulltitan> is it beacause the shortcut uses pcm control and not master? or what?
[09:48] <dooglus> robert_: adduser doesn't take an re argument does it?
[09:48] <nickrud> dooglus, i could pm you the entire stanza
[09:48] <vith> ok, i'm trying to recover data off of a dying hard disk, and i'm getting scsi errors after a while ( http://pastebin.com/706050 ), is there anything i can do to reset the state of the disk other than cutting power to it? it's sATA
[09:48] <robert_> it's inside adduser.conf with the NAME_REGEX configuration option :P
[09:48] <dooglus> nickrud: please.
[09:48] <m0gsi> Hello all
[09:49] <bulltitan> this is so frustrating
[09:49] <CrippsFX> should I get a palm Zire 31, or a Compaq Ipaq (3630) ?
[09:49] <maruchan> do the amarok themes work in gnome?
[09:49] <Lukian> is there something which can run through the file system and repair permissions?
[09:50] <robert_> I don't really care if this is 'insecure'- as this is a development server, with a limited number of people who may access it
[09:50] <udo> does anyone knows why i dont hear anything sound? my sustem detect the sound chip but nothings happen(no audio)
[09:50] <dooglus> robert_: use this then:  ^[a-z_] [-a-z0-9_] *$
[09:50] <robert_> (e.g. vpn-only)
[09:50] <robert_> ah
[09:50] <robert_> thanks
[09:50] <nickrud> Lukian, probably not, did you screw up your permissions?
[09:50] <bulltitan> udo as far as i know the default sonund config is silenced
[09:50] <darkman241> Just an FYI , folks: Yesterday, we moved a Debian Sarge server over to 6.06, using a dist-upgrade, without a hitch. I was very, very impressed indeed.
[09:50] <Matthewv> Ayabara, there is a ubuntu dapper server on the vmware site, you could always upgrade that to full ubuntu
[09:50] <dooglus> robert_: if you don't want to allow names to *start* with a '_', then remove the first '_' from the re and leave the 2nd
[09:50] <garryfre> try altamixer at the terminal and make sure your channels are not muted.
[09:51] <Lukian> nickrud: possibly
[09:51] <CrippsFX> darkman241, congratulations. that's pretty sweet.
[09:51] <nickrud> darkman241, yes, impressive indeed :)
[09:51] <CrippsFX> apt is a very robust tool for deb-based systems ;)
[09:51] <darkman241> :)
[09:51] <Dirge> !WPA2
[09:51] <ubotu> Dirge: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:51] <udo> how can i enable this silence?
[09:51] <dooglus> robert_: it means "begins with a-through-z or '_', and is followed by 0-or-more of ('-', 0-9, a-z, and '_')
[09:51] <Dirge> !WPA
[09:51] <garryfre> Also linux tends to have a lower volume.
[09:51] <bulltitan> maruchan amarok works in gnome but be sure to have all the codecs installed
[09:52] <nickrud> Lukian, the only true way (for us normal dudes, not those types who just did an dist-upgrade from sarge to dapper) is to reinstall
[09:52] <bulltitan> i did it i worked fine
[09:52] <maruchan> no i know it works i have it working, but i just found that it has themes
[09:52] <garryfre> alsamixer at /appplications/accessories/terminal
[09:52] <bulltitan> but nobody is willing to answer my simple question i see thanks for that
[09:52] <Lukian> nickrud: I vagely remember running some command as part of a howto to fix up permissions
[09:52] <Jaak_> is there a way to do sudo in filebrowser?
[09:52] <bulltitan> ho
[09:52] <Dirge> !WPA
[09:52] <Jaak_> !wpa
[09:52] <Lukian> Jaak_: sudo nautilus? :P
[09:52] <Jaak_> yes
[09:53] <nickrud> Lukian, permission suck if they are bad, and there is no easy way to fix them.
[09:53] <dooglus> Jaak_: alt-f2 sudo <whatever>
[09:53] <Jaak_> ok
[09:53] <Jaak_> thanks
[09:53] <xice> anyone with VMWARE : i get this error (on XGL) upon trying to maximize nable to find an appropriate host video mode.
[09:53] <xice> Adding the guest mode to the 'display' subsection of the 'screen' section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config and restarting X is likely to help.
[09:53] <xice> Failed to switch to full screen  mode.
[09:53] <Lukian> nickrud: ok, well, I guess I find out what happen when I have to reboot :)
[09:53] <Madpilot> Jaak_, be careful with "sudo nautilus" - it works, but delete the wrong thing and you could have all sorts of fun...
[09:53] <nickrud> Lukian, true :)
[09:54] <Hoxzer> :D "all sorts of fun"
[09:54] <Hoxzer> "weE!"
[09:54] <Bazzi> the joy of a rm -rf /
[09:54] <zelevw> can anyone tell me where my X session settings are kept....my keyboard and mouse are not behaving correctly and the settings don stick...if I log on as another user everything works OK
[09:54] <Frogzoo> Jaak_: run x apps as root is usually pretty unrecommended
[09:54] <Lukian> zelevw: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[09:54] <zelevw> Lukian: local user...not system wide but thank you
[09:55] <Lukian> ah odd
[09:55] <Frogzoo> Bazzi: please don't mention such dark acts - keep it child (and newb) friendly
[09:55] <nickrud> zelevw, System-Prefs-Keyboard and Mouse, try those first
[09:56] <Bazzi> Frogzoo: I didn't put sudo before it ;-)
[09:56] <bulltitan> i did the google thing and also the wiki thing and also the forum thing and no one was able to answer my question i see here isn't different
[09:56] <dooglus> Lukian: what did you do that messed permissions up?
[09:56] <zelevw> nickrud: the setting changes I make do not stick...thanks anyways...theres gotta be a file wi the settings
[09:56] <Frogzoo> Bazzi: ;)
[09:56] <Frogzoo> lol
[09:56] <garryfre> I remembr my first desaster from running as root. I tried to backup the system but gzip removes the files after archiving. If I had not been root I might not have been able to fubar the isystem.
[09:56] <xice> anyone using Vmware and xgl?
[09:57] <Bazzi> xice: linux as guest or host?
[09:57] <nickrud> zelevw, thos should be instantanous changes, and persistent for that user ...
[09:57] <xice> Bazzi, linux host
[09:57] <Bazzi> oh, OK :)
[09:57] <xice> no point of the other way
[09:57] <garryfre> I don't know the anwer to your question Bulltitan. I wish I could help.
[09:57] <zelevw> nickrud: they should but they dont
[09:57] <darkman241> Oh, another thing: We have developed a system whereby we can remotely and automatically deploy (Ubuntu) to large numbers of workstations (running windows), resulting in a fully configured dual boot system. We've already done this with Breezy (across around 400 workstations), and we now have the Dapper drop almost ready. Can someone suggest a good place where we can document this in the future?
[09:58] <Geoffrey2> ok, one more time in case it was missed, how do I go about editing the sources.list file?
[09:58] <k31th> Bind or NSD ?
[09:58] <bulltitan> thanks for that honesty at least garryfre ;)
[09:58] <Matthewv> darkman241, the wiki?
[09:58] <garryfre> bulltitan welcome. good luck.
[09:58] <nickrud> bulltitan, and I didn't see the question. I'm probably not alone.
[09:58] <Ulfalizer> breezy uses kernel version 2.6 by default, right?
[09:58] <k31th> darkman241: #ubuntu-doc
[09:58] <nickrud> Ulfalizer, yes
[09:59] <Ulfalizer> thanks
[09:59] <Frogzoo> Ulfalizer: 2.6.9 on install, 2.6.12 latest in the repos iirc
[09:59] <Matthewv> Geoffrey2, 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:59] <darkman241> Mattheww: *me* slaps his head. :P The wiki sounds good. I forgot that one. :P
[09:59] <bulltitan> ho nick is just that seems to be that sound blaster live 24 sound cards are not fully detected and it works just at half power
[09:59] <nickrud> Frogzoo, 2.6.15 on dapper
[09:59] <Matthewv> darkman241, hehe
[09:59] <bulltitan> including keyboard shortcuts for volume control
[09:59] <Ulfalizer> just needed the info to install it with Parallels. i'm more familiar with bsd's.
[10:00] <nickrud> bulltitan, ok. Watch this space, crimsun hangs out here now and then. Ask him
[10:00] <Flannel> 2.6.12 is most current in breezy
[10:00] <Flannel> Matthewv, Geoffrey2, gksudo
[10:00] <bulltitan> ok
[10:00] <vith> ok, how about this:  how do i power down a sata disk?
[10:00] <nickrud> erh, gotta read more carefully, Flannel
[10:00] <darkman241> It's a really cool system. We're very proud of it. :)
[10:00] <crimsun_> bulltitan: what's the issue?
[10:00] <Flannel> nickrud: hmm?  heh.
[10:01] <nickrud> Flannel, er, me I meant
[10:01] <crimsun_> bulltitan: (btw, you need to preface the line for my nick-complete to trigger. It doesn't work if the nick is in the middle of the line.)
[10:01] <Flannel> nickrud: yeah, I figured it out ;)
[10:01] <garryfre> well, you might try just umounting the sata disk
[10:01] <bulltitan> i see
[10:01] <bulltitan> crimsun is just that seems to be that sound blaster live 24 sound cards are not fully detected and it works just at half power
[10:02] <garryfre> I haven't seen much on power saving features for laptops in dapper so far.
[10:02] <bulltitan> crimsin_ including keyboard shortcuts for volume control
[10:02] <crimsun_> bulltitan: that's pretty vague
[10:02] <crimsun_> bulltitan: keyboard shortcuts are not the sound driver's realm; that's hotkey-setup.
[10:02] <garryfre> My Sound Blaster Audology zs 2 does the same thing - half volume.
[10:03] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:03] <crimsun_> "half volume"?
[10:03] <bulltitan> wellco me then garryfre :P
[10:03] <crimsun_> guys, please be more specific and detailed
[10:03] <crimsun_> I can't possibly troubleshoot with that.
[10:03] <Frogzoo> crimsun_: treble, but no bass
[10:03] <crimsun_> "my tooth hurts"
[10:03] <Frogzoo> or bass, but no treble?
[10:03] <crimsun_> "well ... how and where does it hurt?"
[10:03] <crimsun_> "uh I don't know"
[10:03] <bulltitan> well all the sound blasters live 24 bits are cheaps audigys and are not fully detected by ubuntu by all means
[10:04] <ecker> When I apt-get remove zsnes, and reinstall it< why does it still has the exact same config, I need to completely remove it and reinstall it fresh
[10:04] <albacker> Guys what is used to read .ram or .rm files
[10:04] <Bazzi> ecker try purge
[10:04] <RedHairedMan> hey guys, I'm having trouble with setting my LCD monitor's refresh rate to work with X.  Any safe settings?
[10:04] <nickrud> ecker, sudo apt-get remove --purge zsnes to remove configs
[10:04] <crimsun_> bulltitan: there's no such thing as "not fully detected". A driver is loaded, and the card either functions or doesn't function.
[10:04] <snoops> realplayer codecs albacker
[10:04] <garryfre> I use an amp on mine, it just means I dial up the volume and if I forget to turn it on and boot something else, I get plaster on the floor
[10:04] <Flannel> albacker: ram and rm are real media (real player) stuff
[10:04] <xice> RedHairedMan, usually 60Hz is ok
[10:05] <bulltitan> more over creative is so lazy putting out a new driver even for windows that it won't be a good idea to check their wbsite
[10:05] <m_0_r_0_n> mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail: Depends: mozilla-thunderbird (< 1.5.0.2.0) but 1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06 is to be installed E: Broken packages - How can I resolve this problem?
[10:05] <albacker> !realplayer
[10:05] <ubotu> methinks realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:05] <RedHairedMan> it doesn't work here, and I can't get X started
[10:05] <crimsun_> bulltitan: / garryfre: what would assist would be the output from ``amixer'' pastebinned.
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <crimsun_> oh my deity
[10:05] <albacker> thanks snoops Flannel
[10:05] <bulltitan> gosh!
[10:05] <Matthewv> jimmy89, stop
[10:06] <_nano_> RedHairedMan: could you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[10:06] <RedHairedMan> the automatic settings kill X11, and when I tried setting the horizontal refresh to 30-75 and vertical to 50-75 it still fails to work
[10:06] <crimsun_> jimmy89: do not EVER do that again.
[10:06] <m_0_r_0_n> ./kick jimmy89
[10:06] <bulltitan> ok crimsun_ i'll try that
[10:06] <RedHairedMan> unfortunately no, I'm on a seperate computer, but I can give you any info you like out of it
[10:07] <garryfre> I believe that is alsamixer I can try to help on that.
[10:07] <crimsun_> garryfre: no, just amixer
[10:07] <RedHairedMan> I'm using the vesa driver on a generic monitor with 1280x1024 and 1024x768 res options enabled
[10:07] <pablozzz> hi guys
[10:07] <RedHairedMan> my card is a radeon x800
[10:07] <garryfre> hmmm, never heard of amixer
[10:07] <pablozzz> I can' using "rmvb" under mplayer :(
[10:07] <RedHairedMan> when X tries to start it puts out no signal to my monitor
[10:07] <crimsun_> jimmy89: if someone doesn't respond immediately, please be patient. Also, try the ubuntu-users mailing list and/or ubuntuforums.
[10:08] <jimmy89> thank you for removing the ban, sorry for the spam
[10:08] <jimmy89> just getting annoyed.
[10:08] <crimsun_> annoyed is absolutely no excuse to irritate volunteers.
[10:08] <Madpilot> jimmy89, and annoying everyone else in the channel is supposed to help *how*?
[10:08] <cafuego> Well, annoying everyone else is not a useful strategy for requesting help.
[10:08] <pablozzz> wich plugin i have to using
[10:09] <bulltitan> we all get at some point but it is a good idea to wait and use sarcasm :P
[10:09] <garryfre> Mere oppression makes even riteous folks act crazy.
[10:09] <Jaak_> Since ubuntu 6 the screensaver options menu has changed. I can't configure any screensaver, now what?
[10:09] <cafuego> righteous?
[10:10] <Madpilot> Jaak_, that's because Dapper is using gnome-screensaver, and it currently sucks.
[10:10] <garryfre> I noticed that. Yeah, my spelling stinks
[10:10] <Matthewv> Jaak_, you could replace gnome-screensaver with xscreensaver
[10:10] <m_0_r_0_n> Is it possible to reinstall the older version of thunderbird???   mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail: Depends: mozilla-thunderbird (< 1.5.0.2.0) but 1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[10:10] <RedHairedMan> what do I do when X11 isn't outputting a signal to my monitor?
[10:10] <Madpilot> Jaak_, install xscreensaver to get the configs back
[10:10] <nickrud> opression?
[10:10] <bulltitan> why the hell i sold my sound blaster 5.1 :(:(:(:(
[10:10] <Flannel> m_0_r_0_n: sounds like you need to update your sources.  if -enigmail is in the repositories anyway
[10:11] <garryfre> I installed xscreensaver and stil no options.
[10:11] <garryfre> er confiugre
[10:11] <KyoLptp`> Can I get a link to the Xgl tutorial for intel cards?
[10:11] <m_0_r_0_n> Flannel, the sources are updated
[10:11] <cafuego> m_0_r_0_n: 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird=1.5.0.2-0ubuntu2'
[10:11] <dbzdeath> this is probably a stupid question... but how do i install xubuntu from the live cd?
[10:11] <nickrud> !xgl
[10:11] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:11] <Geoffrey3> ok, repeating....is there somewhere I can find a sample sources.list to make sure I have everything up to date and correct?
[10:11] <m_0_r_0_n> cafuego, thanks
[10:11] <cafuego> Flannel: The reps are broken
[10:11] <nickrud> xgl should be /dev/null
[10:12] <cafuego> Flannel: enigmail hasn't been updated, but thunderbird has => broken.
[10:12] <bulltitan> i have had a few issues with ubuntu but i think it is the future of linux to ex-windows users
[10:12] <Flannel> cafuego: alright, I'll keep that in mind
[10:12] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 for dapper, very nice one
[10:12] <garryfre> Options if I recall, or you can install the xbuntu destop from symantic package manager after. It worked on breezy, I can't say it will work on dapper though
[10:12] <Jaak_> i have a stupid question, how do i whisper ppl on xchat?
[10:12] <bulltitan> that's my silly idea
[10:12] <internat> has anyone seen the problem with tvtime  "xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images."
[10:13] <Flannel> dbzdeath: should be a menu item or something (I've never done the liveCD, sorry)
[10:13] <nickrud> Jaak_, /msg (you need to register for this to work)
[10:13] <garryfre> You do /say username if I am correct.
[10:13] <cafuego> Mind you, just not clicking "Apply" when the package manager tells you it wants to remove enigmal should do for now.
[10:13] <spacey> Jaak_: just open a private message window/query
[10:14] <spacey> by clicking or typing /query <nick>
[10:14] <garryfre> Yeah, you can right-click on the user name and get a channel
[10:14] <RedHairedMan> what do I do when X11 isn't outputting a signal to my monitor?
[10:14] <snoops> this is after you've changed settings RedHairedMan?
[10:14] <nickrud> good night, all.
[10:14] <Matthewv> would it be a good idea to remove the errors=remount-ro from my fstab, cause my fs gets mounted ro too often?
[10:15] <garryfre> First, change to the standard vesa driver in xorg.conf It might help you at least get graphics until you get it resolved.
[10:15] <RedHairedMan> both before and after
[10:15] <RedHairedMan> and I'm using vesa
[10:16] <KyoLptp`> thanks, nickrud
[10:16] <garryfre> Hmmm, Not sure.
[10:17] <bulltitan> was i crazy or i see pictures of genome lazuli?
[10:17] <RedHairedMan> I suspect it's my refresh rate, but I can't seem to find any settings that work with my LCD.  I know 1280x1024 @ 75Hz works under Windows
[10:17] <garryfre> Might look at xorg.conf in /etc/X11 to see if you find any clues.
[10:17] <RedHairedMan> I did, that's where I set myself up to use vesa and set the max refresh rate on both horizontal and vertical to be 75, still doesn't work.
[10:17] <garryfre> What kind of lcd do you have?
[10:17] <RedHairedMan> an Impression.  Generic old LCD monitor
[10:18] <garryfre> Hmmm, I bet the refrsh range is too high and the lcd is shutting down to avoid frying self.
[10:18] <bulltitan> nope i'm not crazy but not sure abaut what that really is
[10:19] <bulltitan> sorry about
[10:19] <RedHairedMan> garryfre: nope, just checked, it's within it's ranges
[10:19] <banie> i want to ask here
[10:19] <banie> can or not?
[10:20] <Troglodyt> refresh should be 60 for lcd's??
[10:20] <Flannel> banie: yep.  just ask.
[10:20] <RedHairedMan> 60 didn't work, neither did 75
[10:20] <RedHairedMan> but works fine under Windows
[10:20] <Hoxzer> ^^ windows
[10:20] <RedHairedMan> it worked under 5.10, so I don't know what changed
[10:20] <jimmy89> what is a good play to use to play mp3 files?
[10:21] <Hoxzer> xmms
[10:21] <polpak> !tell jimmy89 about mp3
[10:21] <banie> xmms
[10:21] <pablozzz> amarok
[10:21] <banie> usually
[10:21] <bulltitan> xmms by default but amarok works as well
[10:21] <snoops> amarok definitely.. it's the reason I switched to linux for my desktop
[10:21] <CrippsFX> !tell banie about questions
[10:21] <pablozzz> yhmm
[10:21] <garryfre> syntax is like vertrefresh = ##.# - ##.# and horizrefresh. There is some sort of command to reconfigure the xserver. Do you have two connections? Perhaps the x is sending output to a monitor that's not hooked up?
[10:21] <RedHairedMan> already tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:22] <RedHairedMan> and tried the other output
[10:22] <bulltitan> i only use the preview option of nautilus to hear mp3 :P
[10:22] <garryfre> Hmm.
[10:22] <bulltitan> cheap but fast
[10:22] <RedHairedMan> I have a gremlin...
[10:22] <RedHairedMan> a nasty little gremlin in my system :(
[10:22] <garryfre> what vid card do yo have?
[10:22] <jammy> how can I make ubuntu to display Chinese font?
[10:22] <banie> how to install samba on ubuntu?
[10:22] <RedHairedMan> Radeon x800
[10:22] <RedHairedMan> PCI-Express
[10:23] <banie> by using apt-get?
[10:23] <pablozzz> apt-get install samba
[10:23] <jammy> who can tell me how to display Chinese in ubuntu??
[10:24] <banie> i'll try now
[10:24] <polpak> RedHairedMan: did you install your drivers already?
[10:24] <garryfre> There are some fonts for various languages in the symantec package manager.
[10:24] <banie> banie@ubuntu:~$ apt-get install samba
[10:24] <banie> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:24] <banie> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[10:24] <banie> what happen?
[10:24] <KenSentMe> banie: use sudo apt-get
[10:24] <pablozzz> su apt-get
[10:24] <suprchris> I'm trying to install the w32codecs but i'm having a problem can someone help me?
[10:24] <snoops> sudo..
[10:25] <RedHairedMan> no, I can't get that far
[10:25] <polpak> suprchris: just ask your question
[10:25] <RedHairedMan> I just installed Ubuntu about 30 minutes ago
[10:25] <KenSentMe> suprchris: what problem do you have
[10:25] <pablozzz> banie: install lisa, too
[10:25] <polpak> RedHairedMan: are you using the vesa drivers?
[10:25] <KenSentMe> !tell banie about root
[10:25] <RedHairedMan> polpak: yep, vesa
[10:25] <suprchris> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[10:25] <RedHairedMan> it tried ati at first, they don't work with my card
[10:25] <polpak> suprchris: close synaptic
[10:26] <KenSentMe> suprchris: have you opened synaptic
[10:26] <jimmy89> so what mp3 player do you recommened?
[10:26] <suprchris> it's not open
[10:26] <suprchris> no
[10:26] <KenSentMe> suprchris: or the update tool
[10:26] <pablozzz> xmms
[10:26] <suprchris> i used wget-c
[10:26] <garryfre> Might open symantec and search for ati stuff.
[10:26] <pablozzz> xmms or amarok
[10:26] <pablozzz> amrok is better for soutcast radio..
[10:26] <banie> already install samba
[10:26] <suprchris> how do i close the updatetool
[10:26] <banie> root@ubuntu:/home/banie# service smb start
[10:26] <banie> bash: service: command not found
[10:26] <KenSentMe> suprchris: is it open?
[10:26] <pablozzz> :)
[10:27] <suprchris> i don't know
[10:27] <KenSentMe> suprchris: try opening synaptic
[10:27] <Hit3k> pablozzz, i cant get music to play in amarok so i use XMMS
[10:27] <pablozzz> why ?
[10:28] <pablozzz> i use amarok for radio.. and xmms for mp3
[10:28] <Hit3k> ah
[10:28] <banie> bash: service: command not found
[10:28] <Hit3k> do you need to install a codec to play mp3s in amarok?
[10:28] <suprchris> hey thanks synaptic was opened stupid me!
[10:28] <RedHairedMan> okay, using the CLI, how can I get Ubuntu to recognize a USB wireless adapter (I know it's supported natively) that wasn't there when I installed Ubuntu?
[10:28] <KenSentMe> suprchris: thought so
[10:28] <pd273> Hit3k: you are right
[10:28] <Geoffrey3> banie, just a thought....anything apt-get related will crash and burn if you happen to have the Synaptic Package Manager open at the same time....
[10:29] <suprchris> once it's done doing it's thing is it really done or do i restart
[10:29] <KenSentMe> banie: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:29] <garryfre> !ndiswrapper
[10:29] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:29] <snoops> Hit3k yes..
[10:29] <KenSentMe> suprchris: it should work right away i think
[10:29] <NET||abuse> i want drivers for my radeon mobility 7500.... but that aint never gonna happen is it :(
[10:29] <suprchris> ok thanks
[10:29] <RedHairedMan> I don't need ndis wrapper, I just need to activate the wireless
[10:29] <pablozzz> "service" not command ubuntu
[10:29] <snoops> Hit3k http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:30] <garryfre> wireless keyboard? Mouse?
[10:30] <banie> thank
[10:30] <banie> all done
[10:30] <RedHairedMan> wireless adapter, wi-fi
[10:30] <pd273> NET||abuse: the present driver is not working properly for my Mobility 9200
[10:30] <RedHairedMan> then I can apt-get the fglrx driver
[10:30] <banie> so..how to play mpeg file in ubuntu?
[10:30] <pablozzz> mplayer is teh best
[10:30] <KenSentMe> !tell banie about restricted
[10:30] <pablozzz> with win codecs
[10:30] <KenSentMe> banie: read that
[10:31] <czer323> Does anyone know if the default drivers for Ubuntu are Madwifi-ng?  Also, it seems that they're compiled into the kernel.  Can anyone confirm this?
[10:31] <NET||abuse> pd273, yeh, the fglrx doesn't cover earlier that 8xxx and the open source just doesn't get direct rendering working.. and i want to try out xgl on my laptop :(
[10:31] <garryfre> Device manager under system/adminstration might help
[10:31] <pd273> I get a wiered screen when I load the fglrx driver
[10:31] <RedHairedMan> garryfre: I don't have X11 still
[10:31] <garryfre> Ouch
[10:31] <pd273> NET||abuse: did you get 3d renderign to work with the present driver
[10:31] <RedHairedMan> garryfre: exactly :)
[10:31] <banie> ic..
[10:32] <NET||abuse> pd273, the  open source "radeon" driver... heck no
[10:32] <suprchris> i have a question about a drive on my desktop
[10:32] <pablozzz> banie: use mplayer
[10:32] <banie> i dw the mplayer and it .rpm
[10:32] <pd273> NET||abuse: I got better performance with the "ati" driver, and am presently using it
[10:32] <suprchris> it's labeled sda1 but i don't have the right permissions to view it,  what is it how do i see into it?
[10:32] <banie> i use alien change it to .deb
[10:33] <NET||abuse> "ati" ?? eh? :) interesting :P actually i havn't tried with dapper yet
[10:33] <garryfre> I've frequently had issues with xserver not working if I tried installing ubunto to ta drive that ins't listed in bios as the first drive.
[10:33] <garryfre> !ati
[10:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[10:33] <banie> how to install
[10:33] <pd273> NET||abuse: am on Dapper LTS
[10:33] <Madpilot> banie, use the mplayer that Ubuntu has in the Multiverse repository
[10:33] <Flannel> banie: why not just use the mplayer in the repository?
[10:33] <stingher> ciao
[10:33] <MusiFreq> ib xubuntu, is there a way to set mplayer to auto play dvd's when inserted like ubuntu can?
[10:33] <stingher> italy?
[10:33] <pablozzz> banie: you have to change source.list
[10:33] <czer323> !xubuntu
[10:33] <ubotu> xubuntu is, like, Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[10:33] <RedHairedMan> garryfre: it's my only SATA drive
[10:34] <stingher> ubuntu italy pease??
[10:34] <Madpilot> !it
[10:34] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:34] <stingher> please
[10:34] <stingher> ok
[10:34] <garryfre> ok, I hope that url will help that ye get when ye do !ati in xchat.
[10:34] <stingher> bye
[10:35] <banie> Synaptic Package Manager?
[10:35] <CrippsFX> garryfre, it's not just in xchat ... it's in any irc client ....
[10:35] <banie> how?
[10:35] <CrippsFX> garryfre, it's like doing this:
[10:35] <CrippsFX> ubotu, ping
[10:35] <ubotu> pong
[10:35] <pablozzz> q
[10:35] <garryfre> CrippsFX Yep
[10:35] <pablozzz> q
[10:35] <KenSentMe> banie: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[10:35] <pablozzz> !
[10:35] <ubotu> pablozzz: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:35] <banie> ubotu, ping
[10:35] <czer323> That's pretty normal for the main window.
[10:35] <CrippsFX> !tell pablozzz about questions
[10:36] <RedHairedMan> proper formatting for horizsync and vertrefresh are just the words with no quotes, a space, and then 30-60 or 50-100 with no quotes either, right?
[10:36] <RedHairedMan> or do the values need quotes?
[10:36] <czer323> Does anyone know if the default drivers for Ubuntu are Madwifi-ng?  Also, it seems that they're compiled into the kernel.  Can anyone confirm this?
[10:36] <banie> and then ..?
[10:36] <CrippsFX> RedHairedMan, no quotes
[10:36] <RedHairedMan> didn't think so
[10:36] <pablozzz> one minute banne
[10:36] <banie> no response
[10:36] <RedHairedMan> and the hyphen is acceptable?
[10:36] <pablozzz> help
[10:36] <garryfre> I included the double quotes for my xorg and it worked
[10:36] <pablozzz> ?
[10:36] <CrippsFX> !tell pablozzz about questions
[10:37] <pablozzz> what add files for ircII screen
[10:37] <pablozzz> ???
[10:37] <garryfre> yes, the hyphen is a range indicator
[10:37] <RedHairedMan> just wanted to be sure my formatting wasn't off :(
[10:37] <RedHairedMan> hope it was
[10:37] <RedHairedMan> hoped
[10:37] <pablozzz> waht cat files ...
[10:37] <pablozzz> sorry
[10:37] <KenSentMe> banie: what are you trying to install?
[10:38] <CrippsFX> pablozzz, sorry ... what is your question?
[10:38] <banie> mplayer
[10:38] <pablozzz> bannie: ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiversion
[10:38] <KenSentMe> use synaptic for that
[10:38] <KenSentMe> !tell banie about sources
[10:38] <pablozzz> add it to source.list
[10:38] <NET||abuse> hmm, system seems to recognise the graphics card as Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 9000] 
[10:39] <NET||abuse> but i was certain is was 7500 mobility
[10:39] <kholerabbi> How do I make firefox only accessible with a password - like change its permissions?
[10:39] <Flannel> kholerabbi: just firefox?
[10:39] <pablozzz> crippsfx: what i can view file in ircII
[10:39] <pablozzz> ??
[10:39] <garryfre> Sleepy time. Was hoping i could return the favor for the help I got earlier before my braindeadness called me to bed. Gnight all and good luck.
[10:39] <pablozzz> text-file
[10:40] <CrippsFX> pablozzz, I don't think you can view files *in* ircII ... you have to download the file and read it using cat, or have the file posted to a pastebin and read it from there.
[10:40] <pablozzz> quit
[10:40] <kholerabbi> Flannel: Yep - Actually what would be best is if I could just block the prefernces and extensions - but blocking firefox is fine
[10:41] <banie> done..
[10:41] <banie> thank to all
[10:41] <pablozzz> i can view text-file on the irc screen
[10:41] <KenSentMe> !ubuntu
[10:41] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu was a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[10:41] <banie> already install mplayer
[10:41] <Flannel> kholerabbi: huh?
[10:41] <banie> huhu
[10:41] <KenSentMe> banie: great
[10:41] <pablozzz> bannie :)
[10:41] <czer323> Does anyone know if the default drivers for Ubuntu are Madwifi-ng?  Also, it seems that they're compiled into the kernel.  Can anyone confirm this?
[10:42] <CrippsFX> pablozzz, there could be 2 reaons for that ... 1)the file is on the IRC server and your client reads that file, or 2)you have a plugin that I don't know about.
[10:42] <RedHairedMan> Oh for the love of...
[10:42] <RedHairedMan> you'll never believe this
[10:42] <RedHairedMan> on a whim, I change from the vesa driver (which always worked in the past) to the radeon driver (which NEVER worked on ANY distro)...and X11 started fine...
[10:42] <banie> try install apache right now
[10:42] <KenSentMe> !tell banie about lamp
[10:42] <Flannel> !tell banie about lamp
[10:43] <banie> still connecting
[10:43] <KenSentMe> Flannel: i win
[10:43] <CrippsFX> czer323, I think that the "default" modules are the ones that probing decides you need ... mine automatically installed the bcm43xx module, yours should load the one you need.
[10:43] <Flannel> KenSentMe: as long as he gets helped, go ahead and win ;)
[10:43] <RedHairedMan> I think I need a drink now
[10:43] <m_0_r_0_n> How do I get OpenGL support. Google Earth for Linux is not able to start!
[10:44] <KenSentMe> Flannel: you are right, just kidding
[10:44] <czer323> CrippsFx> the one i 'need' is subjective to what i"m doing. ;)  I need the madwifi-ng version, and it doesn't seem like this is.
[10:44] <RedHairedMan> stiff...and copius
[10:44] <KenSentMe> !start
[10:44] <ubotu> KenSentMe: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:44] <czer323> CrippsFx> I'm just not savvy with this stuff yet.
[10:44] <val_> ciao
[10:44] <val_> exit
[10:44] <RedHairedMan> thanks guys
[10:44] <KenSentMe> !gettingstarted
[10:44] <ubotu> KenSentMe: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:44] <RedHairedMan> I'ma go get plastered and rant at my machine some more
[10:45] <KenSentMe> Is there a ubotu message that points people to introductions on using ubuntu?
[10:45] <KenSentMe> Like installing etc.
[10:45] <CrippsFX> czer323, well, the module you need is dependant on the hardware. you can't change modules based on what you're doing.
[10:46] <wahjava> hi channel
[10:46] <zabgone> could anyone give me some good alternatives for look@lan i can install under ubuntu ?
[10:46] <m_0_r_0_n> How do I get OpenGL started?
[10:46] <wahjava> can anybody explain how to configure scanner in Ubuntu
[10:46] <czer323> CrippsFx> From what I understand, there are 2 versions of madwifi.  The old and the new.  NG is the newer.  So, i want the newer module, if THIS is not already the newer one.  Again, I'm just looking to verify if it is or ISN"T the older/new.
[10:46] <wahjava> Breezy
[10:46] <leshaste> anyone see how to hear the sound at http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~algorith/sounds/lec19-5.html ?
[10:46] <Flannel> !tell wahjava about scanner
[10:47] <wahjava> its an Multifunctional Device
[10:47] <wahjava> HPLJ3050
[10:47] <KenSentMe> !opengl
[10:47] <ubotu> KenSentMe: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:47] <KenSentMe> hmm
[10:47] <DarthMorlock> ! OpenGL
[10:47] <ubotu> DarthMorlock: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:47] <banie> !lamp
[10:48] <CrippsFX> !tell czer323 about madwifi
[10:48] <CrippsFX> czer323, hope that helps
[10:49] <m_0_r_0_n> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=opengl&titlesearch=Titles  0 results of about 11200 pages. (0.83 seconds) ?????
[10:50] <czer323> CrippsFX> Actually, I've read it before, and it states that it's for the beta, and the author "expects that madwifi + nm + WPA will be available in Dapper as soon as it is released."  Sorry Cripps ;)  I'll just keep posting the question everyonce and awhile and hope for a definative answer.
[10:52] <CrippsFX> czer323, based on what I've read on that wiki, is that it is madwifi that ships with dapper, not madwifi-ng
[10:52] <czer323> CrippsFx> considering that it was written pre-dapper... It's uncertain.
[10:53] <KenSentMe> zabgone: maybe you can search the packages with synaptic
[10:53] <CrippsFX> czer323, there is another way to find out ... read the dapper release notes.
[10:53] <suprchris> can someone help me to access a drive on my desktop
[10:53] <zabgone> kensentme: if i know the name of an alternative program i could yes :)
[10:53] <CrippsFX> because madwifi is going to be different in dapper than it was in breezy, so it would be mentioned in the notes
[10:54] <czer323> CrippsFX> Any idea where I'd find them?  Else I'll just google them.
[10:54] <higen> is the debian repository more updated then the ubuntu one?
[10:54] <higen> with the lastest and greatest?
[10:54] <suprchris> I need help accessing a drive can someone help me?
[10:54] <CrippsFX> google is probably your best bet
[10:55] <k31th> higen: depends on what version of debian
[10:55] <higen> k31th: well.. has to be the unstable branche
[10:55] <wert45> Hi all, is there a chance to get ubunto running on a pda?
[10:56] <wahjava> Flannel, I'm back, sorry for disconnecting in between
[10:56] <banie> install kde right now for karamba
[10:56] <higen> not stable.. i know that stable branch is back to stoneage on debian.. using 2.0 kernel and xfree :P
[10:56] <banie> hehe
[10:56] <CrippsFX> generally, mixing debian and ubuntu repos is not a good idea ... they have *different* dependencies
[10:56] <suprchris> how do i access a drive when i don't have the right permissions
[10:56] <higen> thats why i am considering going over to debian.. anyway
[10:56] <wahjava> I already have HP LIP on Ubuntu Breezy
[10:56] <CrippsFX> suprchris, what EXACTLY are you trying to do?
[10:56] <higen> after one month i need to unistall linux.. thats actually rather disapointing
[10:56] <k31th> higen: ubuntu is based on deb
[10:57] <k31th> so go figure
[10:57] <k31th> higen: really.
[10:57] <suprchris> there is a drive labeled sda1 on my desktop but i can't read it due to incorrect file permissions
[10:57] <k31th> because you cant use it?
[10:57] <CrippsFX> suprchris, that would be your usb key, correct?
[10:57] <wahjava> can anybody help me in configuring scanner (HPLJ3050) in Ubuntu "Breezy"
[10:57] <higen> yes.. after a hardlock.. and i had to turn on and off the button.. i got a error on the harddrive.. which is ok.. fschk fixed it.. but after that.. things started to act weird..
[10:58] <higen> i got some weird errors.. and things are just messy
[10:58] <suprchris> well i don't know i have a usb drive but it's labeled as I know it to be
[10:58] <suprchris> i don't know what sda1 is
[10:58] <Hit3k> amarok still doesnt play my songs When i play one it just keeps changing songs until it finishes the playlist
[10:58] <suprchris> by the way i'm running a dual boot sys
[10:59] <wahjava> HP Laserjet 3050 is in supported devices list of HPLIP
[10:59] <snoops> you may need to reinstall amarok Hit3k..
[10:59] <CrippsFX> suprchris, okay. well, you could either try "chmod a+rw /path/to/mounted/drive/ -R" or, do it a little bit dirtier, unmount the driver, do "chmod a+rw /dev/sda1" and then remount the drive.
[10:59] <Hit3k> snoops, maybe
[11:00] <snoops> when I installed all my gstreamer packages to play every format on the planet I needed to reinstall amarok.. maybe I just had to reboot...didn't try it since reinstalling is so simple
[11:00] <suprchris> only root can unmount
[11:00] <higen> darn.. that filezilla ftp server is rather quick
[11:00] <CrippsFX> suprchris, but you would have to run those commands as "sudo"
[11:00] <wahjava> can anybody help me in configuring scanner (HPLJ3050) in Ubuntu "Breezy" ??
[11:01] <suprchris> alright well bare with me I'm just learning this command stuff
[11:01] <suprchris> i'm a hardcore win user whose trying to use his brain more
[11:01] <CrippsFX> suprchris, more power to ya ... when you get used to it, the command line is an EXTREMELY useful tool.
[11:01] <ROBOd> hello people
[11:02] <wahjava> ROBOd, hi :)
[11:02] <ROBOd> i have vmware 5.5 workstation and I cannot start it under ubuntu dapper
[11:02] <banie> who want to learn LAMP?
[11:02] <banie> go to www.lamphowto.com
[11:02] <CrippsFX> suprchris, that's one of my beefs with windows, is that they should encourage users (especially power users) to take to the CLI
[11:02] <higen> ROBOd you probably need to compile vmware to fit your kernel..
[11:02] <ROBOd> error: /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[11:02] <higen> there should be a config script that helps you through that
[11:02] <ROBOd> error continued: /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libbonobo-activation.so.4: undefined symbol: g_get_language_names
[11:03] <suprchris> it says no such file exists
[11:03] <ROBOd> higen: done that already, no probs there
[11:03] <higen> ahh.. ok.
[11:03] <suprchris> did i need to type it differently than you did?
[11:03] <Hit3k> snoops, it says i dont have any audio drivers after i reinstalled
[11:04] <ROBOd> anyone has any ideas?
[11:04] <CrippsFX> suprchris, yeah. the "/path/to/mounted/drive" is supposed to be "/mnt/mounted folder" or "/media/drive" or something like that. give me the output of "ls /media"
[11:04] <banie> nop
[11:04] <CrippsFX> suprchris, brb ... I'll be back in about 5 mins.
[11:05] <banie> can ubuntu write ntfs?
[11:05] <suprchris> cdrom cdrom0 cdrom1 floppy floppy0 sda1 sdb1
[11:05] <banie> and see in folder?
[11:05] <snoops> Hit3k did you install the ones it mentioned in the resitrctedformats wiki?
[11:05] <Hit3k> yes
[11:05] <kbh> can ubuntuwrite ntfs
[11:05] <ic56> banie: NTFS write is not safe.  Nonetheless, an experimental version is supported.
[11:06] <xice> whats the command to get the wizard that configure xorg.conf???
[11:06] <ic56> banie: rumour has it, that this version *won't* trash your filesystem -- most of the time.
[11:06] <banie> how to see ntfs in ubuntu
[11:06] <davvyk> hi im having a few problems with the grub loader and ubuntu can anyone give me a hand?
[11:06] <banie> i know that
[11:06] <BlueDevil> any way i can get a gnome-centric application to support webdav in kubuntu?
[11:06] <kbh> which is that exp version
[11:06] <snoops> davvyk :)
[11:07] <ic56> banie: read NTFS is supported.  Download and run this script: http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt
[11:07] <davvyk> cheers snoops. basicaly ive installed ubuntu to my external hard drive but the grub loader doesnt show it just boots straight tru to windows
[11:07] <ic56> banie: It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer
[11:08] <snoops> yeah are you booting from the external device?
[11:08] <banie> how to setup ic56?
[11:08] <ic56> banie:  If you don't supply any flags, it will interactively ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.
[11:08] <emanuelez> hello
[11:08] <brosioz> anyone that have firefox 1.5.0.4 could open this link ? i get X.org crashes only with konqueror i can open the url http://www.securityfocus.com/data/vulnerabilities/exploits/sendtest.c
[11:08] <banie> i can see in console
[11:08] <KyoLptp`> How would I go about reversing this, just in case? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglx
[11:08] <banie> not in folder..why?
[11:08] <davvyk> i just assumed the grub loader was loaded to the mbr on the internal hard drive.so would show by default
[11:08] <farous> is multiverse supported by ubuntu or is it at the same level as back-ports ??
[11:08] <emanuelez> firefox extensions do not work anymore :(
[11:09] <snoops> davvyk pretty sure it would install itself into the external hdd..
[11:09] <emanuelez> i can install them and they should work on the following firefox restart, but when i do it i get the same message over and over
[11:09] <emanuelez> any hint?
[11:09] <davvyk> ah rite. will ahve a fiddle in the bios n see if i can boot from ma external drive tho have feeling i cant
[11:10] <ic56> banie: point your browser to that URL, and page down to "usage()"  Read the instructions from there on down.  They say to save the file (save-as in your browser) and tell you how to execute.  The script does the rest.  I'm the author of this version, so I can answer questions and help if anything goes wrong.
[11:10] <KyoLptp`> Also, what's the difference between compiz-vanilla and compiz-quinn?
[11:10] <KyoLptp`> !xgl
[11:10] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:10] <ROBOd> someone has vmware running in dapper?
[11:10] <ROBOd> !vmware
[11:10] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[11:10] <snoops> yeah might be fun davvyk
[11:10] <banie> ok
[11:11] <davvyk> thanks alot snoops  il go hae a look
[11:11] <snoops> :)
[11:11] <CrippsFX> suprchris, k. I'm back
[11:11] <suprchris> k
[11:11] <suprchris> cdrom  cdrom0  cdrom1  floppy  floppy0  sda1  sdb1
[11:11] <suprchris> that's what's in ls /media
[11:12] <CrippsFX> suprchris, okay, try : sudo chmod a+rw /path/to/mounted/drive/ -R
[11:12] <CrippsFX> suprchris, er wait :P
[11:12] <banie> where to write that script?
[11:12] <ic56> banie: anywhere
[11:12] <CrippsFX> suprchris, okay, try : sudo chmod a+rw /media/sda1 -R
[11:12] <kbh> i've got an ubuntu install; but how can login as root user
[11:12] <emanuelez> is anybody else facing this problem with firefox?
[11:13] <suprchris> wow what a screenfull
[11:13] <CrippsFX> !tell kbh about sudo
[11:13] <suprchris> now i know what that drive is
[11:13] <suprchris> it's my primary partition
[11:13] <suprchris> of windows
[11:13] <CrippsFX> suprchris, there ya go. I take it you run a SCSI drive then?
[11:14] <suprchris> sata
[11:14] <kbh> quite new to linux no idea on sudo
[11:14] <suprchris> hey i've been there
[11:14] <suprchris> i know what it stands for
[11:14] <suprchris> super user do
[11:14] <suprchris> a shortcut to becoming root
[11:14] <CrippsFX> suprchris, there ya go ... I guess SATA registers as a SCSI drive, just like a USB hard drive or pen drive will.
[11:14] <kbh> so any clue on root user and pwd
[11:15] <CrippsFX> kbh, well, if you read the URL that ubotu gave you, you'll be able to find out more about sudo :)
[11:15] <suprchris> if you set up normally the root password is the same as the one you made at start up
[11:15] <samuli> kbh, yeah, check out theurl.
[11:15] <kbh> ok letme try
[11:15] <CrippsFX> kbh, and you'll find out what you're asking for.
[11:15] <QPAD|war-away> !pastebin
[11:15] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:16] <CrippsFX> I hate it when someone gives some info, and the person recieving it takes a look at the links and says "nope ... that's not what I need ... tell me what I need ..."
[11:16] <NET||abuse>  hmm, i'm running a radeon m7 mobility, now it's working on the "ati" driver, and direct rendering is working... should i try to work with xgl or aiglx?
[11:16] <CrippsFX> NET||abuse, aiglx is for Fedora Core
[11:17] <webmind> but this is also called a communication error :)
[11:17] <NET||abuse> it is? i knew it was part of fedora core release, but it's inlcuded in the ubuntu wiki entry as suitable for systems running on the open source drivers
[11:17] <suprchris> you know, crippsfx, I've spent like 10years learning one OS that it's really weird to hop into another.
[11:17] <suprchris> I appreciate your help
[11:17] <CrippsFX> webmind, that's the flip side of the coin ... but to figure out if it's irrelevant, it requires actually loading the link and reading
[11:18] <webmind> CrippsFX, usually yes
[11:18] <CrippsFX> suprchris, it's no problem. I know the feeling :)
[11:18] <CrippsFX> suprchris, I only switched to linux about 5 years ago.
[11:18] <suprchris> how did you ever grasp the commands
[11:18] <webmind> suprchris, using them
[11:18] <NET||abuse> suprchris, practive
[11:18] <NET||abuse> practice *
[11:18] <CrippsFX> suprchris, practice. use it a lot, try to do "new and interesting" things.
[11:18] <webmind> and reading lost manpages :)
[11:18] <njan> suprchris, up, practice is pretty much it. Which OS are you used to?
[11:19] <webmind> err
[11:19] <NET||abuse> suprchris, also, bash scripting, and other styles of scripting help alot
[11:19] <suprchris> windows
[11:19] <webmind> s/lost/lots/
[11:19] <njan> suprchris, well, windows is the same
[11:19] <suprchris> yeah but it's all point and click
[11:19] <CrippsFX> lol ... I only started reading manpages more this past year ... I sort of used howtos and stuff to get all the commands in here *taps head*
[11:19] <njan> suprchris, there are all sorts of commands in windows that it takes a while to get used to, and in windows the syntax changes from program to program :)
[11:19] <davvyk> can anyone think of a reason y my ubuntu cd doesnt seem to have a option to boot from the cd as opposed to the hd
[11:19] <njan> suprchris, in linux the syntax is consistent and you have man pages. Man pages rock. :)
[11:19] <webmind> CrippsFX, well I only use them to learn more about a command I already know
[11:19] <suprchris> the weirdest thing i had to get used to is the file system
[11:19] <snoops> davvyk you can get a bootable grub cd
[11:19] <NET||abuse> davvyk, that won't be the cd.. that'll be your boot order settings in bios
[11:20] <CrippsFX> webmind, same.
[11:20] <CrippsFX> suprchris, yeah, but once you get used to it, you realize how logical it is.
[11:20] <webmind> and clear.. imho
[11:20] <NET||abuse> suprchris, it's actually remarkably simple idea... way more logical than assigning something so limited as drive letter
[11:20] <davvyk> oh no the disc boots up to the ubuntu menu but it doesnt have a option to just boot live off disc
[11:20] <NET||abuse> letters
[11:20] <CrippsFX> ... unless you're using puppylinux or a non-standard distro ... then you take one look at "ls /" and got WTF?
[11:21] <suprchris> oh how do i change the boot order in grub so that windows comes up first
[11:21] <snoops> should be the first option davvyk
[11:21] <suprchris> i just use it more that's why i ask
[11:21] <suprchris> for now
[11:21] <NET||abuse> suprchris, boot order in grub.. or drive boot order?
[11:21] <webmind> NET||abuse, well atleast it's more close to the truth
[11:21] <snoops> suprchris you'll want to edit your /boot/menu.lst
[11:21] <snoops> err /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:21] <davvyk> that just tried to install. hmmm il have to investigate
[11:21] <suprchris> as it stands ubuntu is the first choice and it auto boots
[11:21] <NET||abuse> ah yeh, then the menu.lst file
[11:22] <suprchris> after like ten secs
[11:22] <NET||abuse> just change the line that says default 0 to default 4 or something
[11:22] <Frogzoo> suprchris: the options are self obvious
[11:22] <NET||abuse> then it'll have windows highlighted in grub instead of your default kernel.
[11:22] <emanuelez> how do i uninstall and reinstall firefox?
[11:22] <suprchris> k i'll look the next time
[11:22] <suprchris> thanks
[11:22] <NET||abuse> sudo apt-get remove firefox
[11:22] <Frogzoo> suprchris: change the options you like, & run 'sudo update-grub'
[11:22] <CrippsFX> and make sure that you have the "prompt" option enabled in the header of the menu.lst file .... and change timeout to 3.
[11:22] <CrippsFX> ;)
[11:22] <CrippsFX> at least those are my preferences :P
[11:23] <CrippsFX> Hallo Tomcat_ , wie geht's ?
[11:23] <Tomcat__> Hi CrippsFX.
[11:24] <emanuelez> NET||abuse: that will also remove gnome-core and gnome-environment
[11:24] <snoops> suprchris if you're new to nix, take a look at http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg that single image has helped me out more than anything
[11:24] <cyphase> why are new home directories open to everyone in ubuntu?
[11:24] <NET||abuse> emanuelez, hmm, i don't think it will actually... the dependancies are probably reversed,, so you wold probably have to specify those packages also.
[11:24] <CrippsFX> Tomcat_, sie sind in Stuttgart, ja?
[11:24] <Matthewv> my hdd is giving a lot of errors (eg manual fsck needed) etc. and a few minutes ago a restart and manual fsck took part of /var with it, what would be my best option
[11:25] <emanuelez> NET||abuse: just trying issuing that command and u will see
[11:25] <NET||abuse> cyphase, they shouldn't be... ;S
[11:25] <cyphase> i know
[11:25] <Tomcat__> CrippsFX: correct
[11:25] <cyphase> that's why i'm asking :)
[11:25] <NET||abuse> emanuelez, would rather not just now... reading stuff you know :P
[11:25] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: new hard drive?
[11:26] <Matthewv> Frogzoo, less that a year... probably about 10 months
[11:26] <CrippsFX> cool. Alright ... I'll keep it in english, for the sake of everyone else here ;)
[11:26] <kbh> i don't  know pwd for su and while installing it just asked for creating a new user
[11:26] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: no, I mean that's maybe an option - a new hard drive
[11:27] <emanuelez> NET||abuse: just don't confirm... anyway it won't work. i'll try to delete the .mozilla dir from my home
[11:27] <Matthewv> Frogzoo, what i mean is that now some apps, most notably apt-get, are partly broken, so i can fix it, but its probably going to happen again :( i could reinstall, but that probably wont help in the long run, so you reckon go for a new hard drive?
[11:27] <CrippsFX> kbh, did you read the whole page that I sent you?
[11:28] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: you get foobared file systems for 2 reasons - either power failure, or disk going bad (and in extremely rare cases, driver bugs, but this is a very minor possibility)
[11:28] <NET||abuse> snoops, that picture is class ;) cheers, i've added that to my knowledge base :)
[11:28] <erdanblo> There are any article similar to XglAti in Ubuntu's Wiki?... this is erased... :(
[11:29] <Matthewv> Frogzoo, is there any possibility of getting fsck to mark bad blocks or something like that, and keep going for a while... and is there a way to do a low level hdd check?
[11:29] <NET||abuse> erdanblo, go to #ubuntu-xgl, and the links in the topic are good
[11:29] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: backup your data, & dl your hd manufacturers disk diagnosis s/w - see if the disk tests ok on r/w (ie data destructive tests) - then either replace the disk or reinstall
[11:29] <lw4xl> anyone knopw how to use prelink?
[11:29] <lw4xl> does it work?
[11:29] <snoops> it all makes much more sense to me after studying that image NET||abuse :)
[11:29] <erdanblo> NET||abuse,  Thx
[11:29] <CrippsFX> kbh, because if you DID read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo, then you would KNOW why you don't know the root password. Specifically read the section:Going back to a traditional root account
[11:29] <Matthewv> k thanks Frogzoo I'll see what i can do
[11:30] <Jaak_> anyone know that cool apple tiger rss feed screensaver?
[11:30] <kbh> ko
[11:30] <kbh> ok
[11:30] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: k, gl
[11:30] <EmxBA> can anyone help me with notebook sensors
[11:30] <CrippsFX> "Hi, I'm not going to read any documents you give me. Will you spoonfeed me please?"
[11:30] <NET||abuse> snoops, absolutely... i've always had a rough idea, etc = settings.. var = logs and caches.. and some chroot stuff../bin /boot are all self explanistory..but things like /opt.. and all the subdir breakdowns... NICE
[11:31] <EmxBA> i have notebook, few years ago i've seen temperature 58 celsius in windows :D
[11:31] <CrippsFX> No.
[11:31] <Frogzoo> EmxBA: I doubt it - sensors seem largely borked on dapper
[11:31] <EmxBA> CPU temperature
[11:31] <Jaak_> no one know that cool apple tiger rss feed screensaver?
[11:31] <CrippsFX> NET||abuse, /var also holds servers.
[11:31] <Frogzoo> EmxBA: 58C is nothing !
[11:31] <CrippsFX> my processor is running at 55C right now ...
[11:32] <farous> CrippsFX: are you running amd
[11:32] <CrippsFX> farous, yeah.
[11:32] <snoops> socket a?
[11:32] <farous> and you can install gkrellm worked here perfectly or ksensors if you run kde
[11:32] <EmxBA> and on linux, every distro says that it is always 75
[11:32] <EmxBA> what's the problem
[11:32] <EmxBA> ?
[11:33] <EmxBA> i am running celeron :D
[11:33] <calex> hi all, im running ubuntu in a vmware session from xp, i need to install the vmware tools, i have a tar file and rpm file, but cant get it to install, i installed alien and build essential from synaptic but ./configure says file not found
[11:33] <CrippsFX> EmxBA, ewwww
[11:33] <farous> CrippsFX: they run hot and lol they are driving them hard in linux ;) you should take care of your car not to run it to the ground
[11:33] <EmxBA> it looks like my cpu sensors do not work on any Unix
[11:33] <NET||abuse> ARRRGG,, what's the easy argument to glxgears that gets you fps print out/
[11:33] <EmxBA> just on windows
[11:33] <EmxBA> :D
[11:33] <Matthewv> NET||abuse, --print-fps
[11:33] <EmxBA> but HDD temperature is ok
[11:33] <CrippsFX> farous, yeah ... I switched back to 32 bit so that I wouldn't kill my proc. :P
[11:33] <EmxBA> 48
[11:34] <void^> 48 hddtemp? C?
[11:34] <NET||abuse> Matthewv, doesn't work
[11:34] <CrippsFX> farous, my Celeron was even worse! regular temp of 65 - 68 C
[11:34] <EmxBA> yes
[11:34] <EmxBA> celsius
[11:34] <snoops> uhh a hdd SHOULD NOT be 48C
[11:34] <rixxon> why is it, the right password logs you in instantly, the wrong one takes several seconds to be verified as wrong?
[11:34] <void^> EmxBA: that's unhealthy for your data. very unhealthy.
[11:34] <Bazzi> anything below or equal to 70C is fine
[11:34] <farous> CrippsFX: there was a package that will reduce control the freq of your pc. it is normally set to agressive other setting helped forgot the package name though. perhaps powernd am not sure
[11:35] <Bazzi> (for CPU)
[11:35] <EmxBA> this is what i've seen on windows: hdd 46-50, cpu 58, motherboard 42
[11:35] <EmxBA> is that ok
[11:35] <Bazzi> hdd could be cooler
[11:35] <CrippsFX> farous, mine's set to "userspace" ... 800MHz
[11:35] <Matthewv> NET||abuse, there is a nother option, but i cant remember it.. it basically is something like i accept this is not a benchmark
[11:35] <void^> hdd is either incorrect or critical
[11:35] <snoops> motherboard sounds too hot, and hdd's should be a lot cooler
[11:35] <snoops> I freak out when they're 30C
[11:35] <EmxBA> hdd is correct
[11:35] <lw4xl> anyone know of a xubuntu site that will help me improve it?
[11:35] <EmxBA> when i start my pc it is 26 celsius
[11:35] <EmxBA> and now it is 46
[11:35] <snoops> fans..buy fans
[11:35] <CrippsFX> farous, it does make sense that it's warmer though ... it *is* a laptop .. everything is close together.
[11:35] <EmxBA> hdd
[11:35] <void^> EmxBA: add a fan. do it now.
[11:35] <Matthewv> NET||abuse, glxgears --this-is-not-a-benchmark
[11:36] <farous> CrippsFX: amd run hot it is natural and a prob too
[11:36] <EmxBA> this is a laptop, void
[11:36] <EmxBA> "!
[11:36] <EmxBA> !
[11:36] <ubotu> EmxBA: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:36] <NET||abuse> Matthewv, yeh, that's the one i can half remember.. but i know there's a si mple version
[11:36] <void^> EmxBA: ouch.
[11:36] <EmxBA> np
[11:36] <EmxBA> do you know a good webiste about linux sensors :D
[11:36] <Matthewv> NET||abuse, -printfps
[11:36] <CrippsFX> farous, yeah, it is. When  have money (i.e. in 3 years) imma buy a centrino laptop ... quad core if they have them by then.
[11:36] <farous> mine hover around 55 -60 if low load 45
[11:36] <Matthewv> NET||abuse, sry, it wasnt' -- it was -
[11:36] <CrippsFX> EmxBA, google lmsensors
[11:36] <EmxBA> for laptops :D
[11:36] <NET||abuse> that's it!!1
[11:37] <NET||abuse> bloody hell.
[11:37] <EmxBA> ok
[11:37] <CrippsFX> NET||abuse, what?
[11:37] <calex> hi all, im running ubuntu in a vmware session from xp, i need to install the vmware tools, i have a tar file and rpm file, but cant get it to install, i installed alien and build essential from synaptic but when i go to extracted tar in terminal and run ./configure says file not found
[11:37] <NET||abuse> :P lol so easyl... 700fps steady on my crappy little radion
[11:37] <farous> CrippsFX: lol i brought mine to the ground so already have a replacement centrino now. gave the amd to wife
[11:37] <Matthewv> how do i find a drive model without restarting and watching post?
[11:38] <CrippsFX> calex, build the tar file. run "tar -xzvf <file>.tar.gz" and then read the README or the INSTALL file that gets extracted.
[11:38] <cicuser> hi
[11:38] <NET||abuse> an7yway,,, here i go to crash my machine with another xgl attempt
[11:38] <calex> cool crippsfx ill give it a shot
[11:38] <CrippsFX> farous, yeah ... I drove my last lappy (celeron) into the ground ... only took me 3 years ... by the time I can afford another this one will be toast.,
[11:38] <farous> NET||abuse: it is not worth it
[11:38] <NET||abuse> farous, i just want to see it once
[11:39] <CrippsFX> calex, no problem :)
[11:39] <farous> NET||abuse: good luck
[11:39] <NET||abuse> farous, :) lol
[11:39] <ome_> Anyone want to help me get flash working in ubuntu?
[11:39] <CrippsFX> !tell ome_ about flash
[11:40] <farous> ome_: i downloaded the installer from adobe website
[11:40] <ome_> I downloaded it. Manually put plugins in firefox folder. Wont work, I think its because im using Ubuntu Amd64
[11:41] <CrippsFX> ome_, yeah, that piece of information would have helped. there is no flash plugin available for x86_64
[11:41] <CrippsFX> ome_, there *are* howtos on running 32 bit firefox using chroot, and using the 32 bit plugin with that.
[11:41] <ome_> Should I get the non 64 ubuntu?
[11:42] <drumline> ome_: do you have a 32 bit processor?
[11:42] <CrippsFX> ome_, depends what you need out of a linux system.
[11:42] <idoru_> what do i need to apt-get for getting flash to work in firefox? the guide at ubuntu says flash nonfree but that isn't in the repository, and liblfash-mozplugin crashes firefox
[11:42] <ome_> I got a Athlon FX55
[11:42] <CrippsFX> drumline, amd64 also runs in 32 bit mode
[11:42] <ome_> yah my windows is 32 bit, works fine
[11:42] <suprchris> hey, cripps thanks for that image
[11:42] <KenSentMe> I'm using this howto to configure lm-sensors (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780), but it says to run a script in the lm-sensors source. Where can i find the source?
[11:42] <drumline> CrippsFX: I know, but there's no reason to continue with old technology...   The idea is to push it ahead to 64bit
[11:43] <ome_> I hear you drumline.
[11:43] <drumline> if you have a 64 bit processor...  If you have a 32 bit processor, by all means, use 32  :)
[11:43] <CrippsFX> suprchris, image?
[11:43] <ome_> I wanna push the 64. Hard goin without flash though
[11:43] <suprchris> of the file sys layout
[11:43] <Bazzi> I use 32 bit even though I have a 64 bit CPU, it's just less hassle
[11:43] <void^> KenSentMe: do you mean the "script pasted below"?
[11:44] <CrippsFX> ome_, google "chroot +mozilla flash +amd64" ... you *should* find some how tos
[11:44] <Bazzi> ome_: consider waiting for flash 9 before switching to 64 bit then
[11:44] <Sonderblade> if i use dapper, shouldn't i get daily updates?
[11:44] <ome_> This is my first time even touching anything linux related and i must say im loving it and the whole scene
[11:44] <CrippsFX> suprchris, forgive me, but I still don't remember.
[11:44] <EtoYa> need help with desktop install - cannot see the dialog buttons due to wide screen
[11:44] <CrippsFX> ome_, congratulations. :)
[11:44] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: yes, if you configure synaptic that way
[11:44] <CrippsFX> ome_, the more you use it, the better you love it ;)
[11:45] <Sonderblade> Frogzoo: i have, but i didnt get any updates today
[11:45] <ome_> yah i feel in control again
[11:45] <suprchris> http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg
[11:45] <ome_> windows seems so suspicous and out of control
[11:45] <CrippsFX> suprchris, I don't think that was me ... but it *is* a nice diagram ... I think I'll keep a copy ;)
[11:45] <suprchris> oh well
[11:46] <EtoYa> can you please help me with the dapper install question?
[11:46] <ome_> hey ive gotten a couple chroot messages from you guys. Where do i type those lines?
[11:46] <suprchris> you're welcome then
[11:46] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: well there aren't new releases every day
[11:46] <teclis> hello, does anybody know how to open a MS-PowerPoint-Presentation with version below Powerpoint 97 with OpenOffice?
[11:46] <ome_> chroot +mozilla flash +amd64
[11:47] <EtoYa> bueller, bueller, anyone?
[11:47] <ome_> How do i get world of warcraft to work?
[11:47] <ome_> kidding
[11:47] <Frogzoo> !wow
[11:47] <ubotu> To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built with a patch, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource. A deb is available but for Dapper only, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine
[11:47] <suprchris> CrippsFx: btw, I still can't access the drive/partition,  tis no big deal, at least i know what it is now
[11:48] <ome_> wow you can wow with wine
[11:48] <jessy_> youpi vacances !
[11:48] <EtoYa> :(
[11:48] <Bazzi> ome_: wine has made great progress recently. you won't believe how many things work out of the box with wine atm
[11:48] <Frogzoo> ome_: it's brilliant - try it, you'll like it
[11:48] <ome_> wow man that sounds great
[11:48] <ome_> I would so love to ditch windows
[11:48] <exmethix> hallo @ all!
[11:48] <Warbo> Can anyone help me sort out an ubuntulooks theme I'm making? (PM me to avoid filling the channel)
[11:48] <exmethix> is there a german here
[11:49] <exmethix> ??
[11:49] <Pecisk> can anyone expierenced sudden problems with CD burning
[11:49] <EtoYa> q
[11:49] <Frogzoo> ome_: oh noes - bill will be so disappointed :-(
[11:49] <Bazzi> ome_: do you dual boot? or using vmware?
[11:49] <ome_> I tried getting wine through repositorys the other day. Kept gettin 404 on the apt
[11:49] <Warbo> ome_: One "problem" with WINE is that M$ have started putting detectors for it in their update services!
[11:50] <Bazzi> ome_: theres one especially for dapper, deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[11:50] <Warbo> ome_: Although I have managed to run the "alternative" method for their Windows Genuine Advantage software
[11:50] <ome_>  So whats the problem if windows has wine detectors. Wouldnt you be using wine in linux?
[11:50] <snoops> Warbo really? Bloody hell ms are bastards.
[11:51] <ome_> What do you need windows update in linux for?
[11:51] <_cuTe_> h!
[11:51] <idoru_> what is the packname for flash?
[11:51] <Warbo> ome_: If you are using IE, M$ Office, etc and you need the security updates (there WILL be security flaws :))
[11:51] <CrippsFX> idoru_, apt-cache search flash
[11:51] <idoru_> flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work as stated on the wiki
[11:51] <idoru_> CrippsFX: already did that, libflash-mozplugin crashed my firefox
[11:51] <Bazzi> Warbo: as long as they only harm the wine'd system ;-)
[11:52] <ome_> yah i use firefox
[11:52] <ome_> but i hear you
[11:52] <Ng> Warbo: you can download pretty much all MS updates without using windows update
[11:52] <Frogzoo> Warbo: so why isn't this anti trust? if you choose to run office etc. on wine, that's the user's choice, no?
[11:52] <ome_> fortunately i dont use those apps
[11:52] <internat> has anyone had the problem of nothing being able to listen, ie i run nc - l 8080 and it says its fine, but trying to connect to 8080 on localhost or by ip, or from another computer gets connection denied
[11:53] <Warbo> Frogzoo: I think the WINE developers are gradually beating the detectors, while ms are improving them. I know there are supposed legal issues, so WINE has got themselves some Free Software legal reprisentatives
[11:53] <Ng> internat: you probably want nc -l -p 8080
[11:53] <internat> hmms
[11:54] <ome_> Hey Bazzi, Im still a little confused on all the download options. Could you get me a specific dapper wine release link for my amd64.   I have 2 diffrent drives i used to switch in bios to choose boot. Since i Installed ubuntu theres a little boot selector now
[11:54] <Frogzoo> Warbo: methinks redmond must be starting to take wine seriously then...
[11:54] <Bazzi> ome_: I take it you are not familiar yet with sources.list?
[11:55] <ome_> been 2 days since i first seen linux. I just figured out what all the super user stuff is about and how to get my rez working in xserver-org but thats about all i know
[11:56] <Warbo> Ng: It is easy to get around most of their protections. For example, if you want some software from microsoft.com which needs you to complete a WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage) test, then either a) Run the "alternative" method, which works in WINE, or b) Search on Google and you will find the page which would come up after the check has completed
[11:56] <Frogzoo> !tell ome_ about docs
[11:57] <dooglus> Windows Update isn't a free service - it's only available for people with Windows licenses.
[11:57] <NET||abuse> got a real simple problem with a http proxy server and apt ... have my network a little gateway with a simple proxy in series..
[11:57] <Bazzi> ome_: hehe, well then there's a few things you should know
[11:57] <dooglus> if you're using Wine, and don't have a Windows license, you're not allowed to use Windows Update
[11:57] <xinel> hey everyone, does anybody know where i can download the daily releases of dapper? ive got an intel 3945 network card and have been reading through the forums and ppl said it works with dapper 7 and the older kernel
[11:57] <CrippsFX> dooglus, and neither is microsoft office update ... it's open for people who hold valid office licences ... and it should be regardless of what OS they're using.
[11:57] <NET||abuse> now you need to enter a user/pass from the windows domain to get out.. normally this seems to work fine... but when you us apt and there's http based debs.. i'm hitting a problem.
[11:57] <ome_> i know a little on how to use terminal to and alt-cntrl-f1
[11:57] <Frogzoo> dooglus: for real? if you buy office, you don't get updates without a windows licence? curious....
[11:58] <dooglus> xinel: that's dapper *alpha* 7.  dapper final has been released (1st June) now
[11:58] <Bazzi> ome_: first software rule is to only install software from within the package manager, if possible. so you have to let the package manager know some extra sources
[11:58] <NET||abuse> it says 407 Proxy Authentication Required..
[11:58] <dooglus> Frogzoo: not Windows Updates
[11:58] <NET||abuse> how can i set it to authenticate on the proxy when i use apt...
[11:58] <Bazzi> ome_: thats what the /etc/apt/sources.list file is for
[11:58] <CrippsFX> dooglus, there are separate windows update and office updates
[11:58] <xinel> dooglus, i have the final release, but i still can't get networking to work
[11:58] <Warbo> dooglus: There is a fine line between what is free (as in beer) microsoft software and what isn't. For example, is media player free because you can download it, or is it part of 99 windows OS?
[11:58] <Frogzoo> dooglus: that's serious monopolistic anti trust abuse m8
[11:58] <Bassetts> wow, dooglus is a busy guy
[11:59] <ome_> ok ive installed a couple things in terminal and tried some others without success.. How do i open up extra sources?
[11:59] <dooglus> Bassetts: heh, I'm not.  you think I'm gonna *read* all that? ;)
[11:59] <Bazzi> ome_: use "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:59] <ome_> ok how do i use source.list?
[11:59] <ome_> nm
[11:59] <Warbo> ome_: To add sources you can do it in Synaptic or edit the file /etc/apt/soures.list
[11:59] <NET||abuse> can anyone help me authenticate on my proxy for apt ??
[11:59] <victor__> server localhost
[11:59] <Bassetts> Warbo: like you can download internet explorer for *free*, but the EULA says you have to own a windows license
[11:59] <Bazzi> ome_: add the line "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" to it
[11:59] <wahjava> hi channel
[11:59] <NET||abuse> i run elinks and it's auth'd ok and mozilla,, but apt won't authenticate??
[11:59] <dooglus> NET||abuse: just a moment...
[12:00] <ome_> gonna run that line, br
[12:00] <ome_> brb
[12:00] <Warbo> Bassetts: Well, I've read the XP home edition licence, but that took about 6 weeks, so I can never be bothered to read any more :)
[12:00] <wahjava> Can anybody help me setup my scanner on Ubuntu Breezy
[12:00] <Bassetts> Warbo: i have never read any, I just read people complaining about it on the internet
[12:00] <wahjava> it is HPLJ3050 Multifunctional Device
[12:00] <wahjava> :-S
[12:00] <Bassetts> Warbo: I only trust the complaints if they back them up, and this guy quoted the paragraph that said it
[12:00] <dooglus> NET||abuse: you do it in apt.conf - see "man apt.conf" for the gory details.  are you good with man pages?
[12:01] <ome_> got rejected  when using this gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:01] <NET||abuse> dooglus, ahh, yeh, just getting to where it needs to be set is the trick,,, man is fine once you know what ot man
[12:01] <ome_> none of the protocols supported
[12:01] <Warbo> Bassetts: Well I was reading it side-by-side with a "human-readable" version which condensed every 3 paragraphs into about one line
[12:02] <wahjava> sane-find-scanner detects USB scanner
[12:02] <cromo> Is direct rendering with r300 series ATI disabled by default? I get  unable to find driver: r300_dri.so error with LIBGL_DEBUG=1 glxinfo
[12:02] <dooglus> NET||abuse: even better, just put this line into ~/.xprofile:
[12:02] <ome_> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:02] <ome_> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:02] <dooglus> NET||abuse: export http_proxy=http://username:password@hostname:port/
[12:02] <NET||abuse> dooglus, well it's only when i'm in work,,, i have to turn this off once i'm at home.
[12:02] <Bassetts> Warbo: Licenses are stupid neway, "you and/or any other person nearby may not jump up and down, left to right, or any other direction while in use of *product name*"
[12:02] <Warbo> Is anyone here familiar with the workings of the ubuntulooks gtk engine? I can't get the scrollbars right
[12:02] <dooglus> NET||abuse: with correct values for those 4 strings
[12:02] <Bazzi> ome_: but you started it in console?
[12:02] <KenSentMe> Anyone got the gdesklets for lm-sensors running? I've installed lm-sensors and when i run sensors i can see results, but the gdesklets show nothing.
[12:02] <ome_> i looged in to root then typed that
[12:03] <KenSentMe> void^: btw, didn't see your answer earlier, but the configuration worked
[12:03] <ome_> i used terminal and first i typed su
[12:03] <dooglus> NET||abuse: ok, so do something like:  if [[ $location == work ] ] ; export ...; fi
[12:03] <Bazzi> uh, for gksu you must be in gui mode
[12:03] <dooglus> NET||abuse: and set $location based on IP address, or however else you can tell
[12:03] <Bazzi> ooo no
[12:03] <Warbo> Bassetts: What annoys me is stuff like "You, your family, friends, pets, aquaintances, employers, employees or any other persons" If they include "any other persons" why don't they ONLY include that?
[12:03] <Bazzi> use it from your normal user in gui mode :)
[12:03] <dooglus> NET||abuse: can you send private messages?
[12:04] <ome_> k
[12:04] <Bassetts> Warbo: What annoys me is the whole damn license =P
[12:04] <Warbo> Bassetts: :)
[12:04] <Bassetts> Warbo: after reading it you WANT to break it, to get out of the boredom
[12:05] <cromo> anyone can please tell me if the direct rendering has been removed from freedesktop's ati driver in dapper?
[12:05] <ome_> same thing happened bazzi
[12:05] <Warbo> Bassetts: If you read it and understand it then you find yourself looking for loopholes :)
[12:05] <ome_> you mean in terminal right?
[12:05] <Bazzi> yeah
[12:05] <ome_> yah same message
[12:05] <farous> cromo: i have direct rendering here on my ati card
[12:05] <farous> cromo: free drivers radeon
[12:06] <Bassetts> Warbo: lol, dont tempt me =P
[12:06] <Bazzi> try sudo instead of gksu
[12:06] <Frogzoo> besides, just because you're running wine, doesn't actually mean you don't have a valid doze license - it frequently comes bundled *cough* 'free'
[12:06] <cromo> farous: I guess you own some older card (r200 series or lower).
[12:06] <Hit3k> Whats the program for virtual machines?
[12:06] <Hit3k> Cedega?
[12:06] <farous> cromo: yap 9600
[12:06] <Frogzoo> Hit3k: qemu/kqemu/xen/vmware
[12:07] <xinel> so does anybody know how to get the intel pro 3954 to work in dapper?
[12:07] <Frogzoo> Hit3k: but if you mean a win32 implementation that runs on linux - wine/xover office/cedega
[12:07] <Hit3k> Frogzoo, nah i meant vmware i wasnt sure if it was a linux thing or only a windows thing
[12:07] <ome_> ok im inside source.list
[12:08] <Warbo> Frogzoo: I reformatted a basic Wiki page on VMWare and made sure to include a note about windows licenses. From reading the XP home licence I know that you are allowed to install XP on one computer, and install it on another if you remove it from the first, but virtual computers are not mentioned. I don't know whether having a dual-boot system and also installing XP on VMWare in the Ubuntu system would be legal, as they are b
[12:08] <Bazzi> ome_ so add the line "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" to it at the bottom and save
[12:08] <Frogzoo> Warbo: read the qemu docs - they seem to think the license covers only 1 install, vms included
[12:09] <Bassetts> Warbo: i just rang up MS when it complained i used the key too many times, they just gave me a new one...
[12:10] <Warbo> Frogzoo: I just put "ask the Microsoft corporation whether they would prosecute you" and made sure to put a note underneath that there are no such restrictions when running a Free OS in it :)
[12:10] <Frogzoo> Warbo: and I doubt m$ would allow multiple vms all running off one license
[12:10] <Frogzoo> Warbo: though it might be fun to try :)
[12:10] <Bazzi> Why should MS allow you that? I license, I install.
[12:10] <KenSentMe> When i try to configure a temp gdesklets, the configuration menu won't show up. Anyone know why?
[12:10] <Bazzi> Fair game.
[12:10] <Bazzi> s/I/1/
[12:10] <Warbo> Bazzi: But it says 1 license 1 computer
[12:11] <Frogzoo> KenSentMe: right click the applet
[12:11] <noiesmo> isn't it one license one computer
[12:11] <Bazzi> A VM is another computer.
[12:11] <noiesmo> hardware
[12:11] <Warbo> Bazzi: Is it? It would depend on the lawyers :)
[12:11] <Bazzi> is it said in the license that they mean a hardware piece?
[12:11] <Seveas> Bazzi, Warbo => #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:11] <KenSentMe> Frogzoo: i know, but that doesn't work, i can right click and click configure, but nothing happens. This is only with the lm-sensors gedesklets
[12:11] <Seveas> please keep this channel for ubuntu support
[12:12] <Warbo> Seveas: Sorry
[12:12] <Bazzi> Seveas :(
[12:12] <Frogzoo> Bazzi: only in twisted legalese - it's one cpu & only ever executing one copy at a time (while the others are in wait)
[12:12] <KenSentMe> Frogzoo: when lm-sensors wasn't yet configured i could run configuration for the gdesklets
[12:12] <Bassetts> whats the command to run xserver setup?
[12:13] <Seveas> Bassetts, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:13] <Frogzoo> !xorg
[12:13] <ubotu> [xorg]  To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[12:13] <ome_> added the line
[12:13] <Bassetts> cheers
[12:13] <weedar> When sharing a printer via CUPS does the client also need to have the printer-driver locally?
[12:14] <Bazzi> ome_: run "sudo aptitude update" and "sudo aptitude install wine wine-dev" afterwards. zing, you got the latest wine version :)
[12:14] <Frogzoo> weedar: nope
[12:14] <ome_> wow awesome and easy
[12:15] <Bassetts> wish photoshop would run in wine =(
[12:15] <Bassetts> instead i have xp in vmserver just to run photoshop
[12:16] <Frogzoo> !tell Bassetts about appdb
[12:16] <ome_> bazzi you get my msg?
[12:16] <Bassetts> Frogzoo: seen that
[12:17] <Bassetts> photoshop doesnt look like its running anytime soon
[12:17] <Bazzi> pm? or what? didnt got anything besides <ome_> wow awesome and easy
[12:17] <ome_> yah a pm
[12:17] <ome_> didnt want to spam error msg in main
[12:17] <Bazzi> got no pm =(
[12:17] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: pretty sure there have been versions that ran
[12:17] <ome_> Reading package lists... Done
[12:17] <ome_> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:17] <ome_> Initializing package states... Done
[12:17] <ome_> Building tag database... Done
[12:17] <ome_> No candidate version found for wine
[12:17] <ome_> No candidate version found for wine-dev
[12:17] <ome_> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[12:17] <ome_> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:17] <ome_> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[12:17] <ome_> Writing extended state information... Done
[12:17] <Frogzoo> ome no spam!!!
[12:17] <Bazzi> argh :(
[12:18] <Bazzi> use the pastebin next time
[12:18] <ome_> whats that?
[12:18] <Bassetts> Frogzoo: my version doesnt run well
[12:18] <rob> !pastebin
[12:18] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:18] <ome_> !pastebin
[12:18] <Bassetts> Frogzoo: i tried it, im happy with a vm =P
[12:18] <xinel> so does anybody know how to get the intel pro 3954 to work in dapper?
[12:18] <Nookie> how can i know how much processor force is used at the moment?
[12:18] <Nookie> i mean how many procent
[12:19] <Frogzoo> Nookie: top
[12:19] <intelikey> Frogzoo what you reccomending now ? :)
[12:19] <Frogzoo> intelikey: :p
[12:19] <intelikey> g'morning
[12:19] <Frogzoo> intelikey: mornit
[12:20] <weedar> Frogzoo: the reason I ask is because when I use the Printer-wizard (albeit in KDE..) after I specify the IP-adress of the server and the printer it wants me to pick a driver
[12:20] <ome_> how do i use pastebin?
[12:20] <Frogzoo> ome_: look up ^^^
[12:20] <intelikey> ome_  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  <--- go there
[12:20] <Nookie> Frogzoo: thanx alot
[12:20] <Nookie> :-d
[12:21] <m_0_r_0_n> cat /proc/cpuinfo for the cpu. And for the graficcard?
[12:21] <Frogzoo> weedar: don't know - but it makes no sense for the client to need a printer driver - do you see IPP anywhere?
[12:21] <m_0_r_0_n> I would like to know if my system is working with the correct grafic driver
[12:22] <suprchris> cripps, i still can't access that drive, is it because it's in ntfs?
[12:22] <intelikey> lsmod   compare to   lshw
[12:22] <dooglus> ome_: or snurl.com/upaste if that's easier to remember
[12:22] <Infecto> hello
[12:22] <noiesmo> m_0_r_0_n, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:22] <Infecto> can some one tell me how to add account module to iptables
[12:23] <Infecto> i know how to compile kernele but i`m looking a way to do that withaout this
[12:23] <Infecto> s/kernel/iptables
[12:23] <ome_> Im a little lost on the whole pastebin thing. I went to that site and it said enter name and msg so i did then clicked send. not sure what that did
[12:23] <Frogzoo> ome_: then paste the resulting url back here so peeps can find your paste
[12:24] <intelikey> Infecto build the modules and add to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/something
[12:24] <ome_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15644
[12:24] <m_0_r_0_n> noiesmo, thanks, it s  a MGA G550 AGP graficcard. How do I get OpenGL work with this graficcard?
[12:25] <m_0_r_0_n> Google Earth for Linux messages , that OpenGL is not supported
[12:25] <intelikey> ome_ looks like you need to setup apt to use the universe repo
[12:25] <intelikey> !repos
[12:25] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:25] <intelikey> follow that wiki ^
[12:25] <weedar> Frogzoo: It is after I have specified the IP-address and port that I see the Printer. After choosing it I am asked for the driver.
[12:26] <Infecto> intelikey: thats only posibility ?
[12:26] <intelikey> Infecto prolly not....  idk
[12:26] <ome_> ok an info on that?
[12:26] <noiesmo> m_0_r_0_n, not sure really but looking at this site there seems to be linux drivers
[12:26] <m_0_r_0_n> ok, thank you
[12:26] <Infecto> ok thx
[12:28] <|lostbyte|> Any one know how i could get more fonts ?
[12:28] <intelikey> |lostbyte| add them
[12:28] <dr3as> anyone that can recommend a console-based cd-ripr?
[12:28] <intelikey> |lostbyte| apt-cache search fonts
[12:29] <|lostbyte|> I want a spesific one.. its called "clean"
[12:29] <intelikey> it's in the reops
[12:29] <intelikey> repos
[12:29] <Jaak_> i keep getting errors trying to install new gnome themes... Can anyone help me, or tell me what packages to install?
[12:30] <burns> Jaak: what's the prob?
[12:30] <intelikey> packaged tho you may need to apt-cache show <blah>
[12:30] <Frogzoo> weedar: try http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html
[12:30] <Frogzoo> !tell Jaak_ about themes
[12:30] <grantp> Hello, need some assistance. At work we have an intranet which works on ASP with some activeX drop down menu's... How can i view these menu's using konquerer or mozilla.
[12:30] <noiesmo> m_0_r_0_n, http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm
[12:30] <noiesmo> m_0_r_0_n, hopefully they come with howto nvidia drivers do or maybe someone else knows
[12:31] <m_0_r_0_n> what about this driver http://www.xig.com/Pages/Summit/CardsChips/Matrox/G550.html
[12:31] <higen> activeX is very much windows as fare as i know..
[12:31] <intelikey> grantp i have renamed pages <name>.html to view them  not the best way but it does work.
[12:31] <Frogzoo> higen: you can install the mozilla active x controls & install ff under wine
[12:32] <Frogzoo> higen: actually, you can run moz active x controls native too
[12:32] <higen> there goes your answer grantp :)
[12:32] <ome_> Ok im at the part where you go into repository and you are supposed to Click the Settings button at the bottom and tick Show disabled software sources. Problem is theres no settings button in repository
[12:33] <Frogzoo> ome_: click on '6.06 LTS'  & then click 'edit' - then select multiverse/universe checkboxes
[12:34] <grantp> Frogzoo??
[12:34] <grantp> hrm..
[12:35] <Frogzoo> grantp: try the mozilla active x controls
[12:35] <intelikey> ome_ the gui way eeh....  hmmm i'd sujest  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      and uncomment the lines with the repos you want, save and exit.  then sudo apt-get update
[12:36] <intelikey> but i don't gui anyway, so i always sujest a cli way.
[12:36] <Internat> has anyone had the problem of vlc not being able to listen on any ports? ie i cant start a server
[12:36] <ome_> im not sure the repos i want
[12:36] <Frogzoo> grantp: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm
[12:36] <Bazzi> ome_: universe and multiverse
[12:37] <Bazzi> !repos
[12:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:37] <ru>  I am trying to upgrade my kernel
[12:37] <ru> sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[12:37] <Bazzi> ome_: follow ubotus link
[12:37] <ru> linux-686-smp is already the newest version.
[12:37] <ru> but if I check it doesnt seem to actually be installe
[12:37] <Frogzoo> ru: have you rebooted?
[12:37] <intelikey> ru ls /boot
[12:37] <ru> In the /boot folder I only see "initrd.img-2.6.15-23-686"
[12:37] <Bassetts> whats a minimum install hd size for ubuntu when the home folder wont be used
[12:37] <grantp> Will check it out Frogzoo, thanks mate!
[12:38] <intelikey> is it there ?
[12:38] <ru> I dont see "sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp"
[12:38] <ru> I mean I dont see xyz-smp sorry
[12:38] <Frogzoo> grantp: yw, gl
[12:38] <intelikey> 15-23 is latest isn't it ?
[12:40] <intelikey> ru you can  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       if there is a later version that should pull it in.
[12:40] <nando> hi guys... i have a problem on my amd64 with some libs.... maybe somebody can help??
[12:40] <Bassetts> what is the Examples folder for in home??
[12:40] <ome_> what does it mean to uncomment ?
[12:41] <intelikey> ome_ remove the   #
[12:41] <Frogzoo> ome_: usually, remove the leading '#'
[12:41] <nando> i just downloaded skype.... and everytime i try to start i geht the following: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:41] <ome_> ok because im not seeing that on anything other then messages
[12:41] <nando> but this lib is installed in /usr/lib  ...
[12:41] <intelikey> no  # deb blah
[12:42] <ChefWill> FOX NEWS ALERT: Women Attacks Couple w/ Pooper Scooper
[12:42] <ChefWill> :P
[12:42] <brrrt> how can i remove unused "network-server-connections" from my menu ??
[12:42] <Ulfalizer> ome_: languages often have constructs for including comments in codet. in this case, a comment is marked with a
[12:42] <ome_> for instance http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15645
[12:42] <Ulfalizer> ops, premature return
[12:42] <ome_> I dont see those on any command lines though
[12:42] <Ulfalizer> ome_: ..with a #. a common method to "disable" i piece of code is to make it into a comment. "uncommenting" simple means "activating" the code again by removing the comment marker.
[12:43] <Ulfalizer> *a piece
[12:43] <ome_> I hear you ulf
[12:43] <ome_> Where im confused it no command lines apear to have #
[12:43] <Ulfalizer> *simply
[12:43] <intelikey> ome_ pastebin the whole file
[12:43] <ome_> ok
[12:44] <Frogzoo> ome_: click on '6.06 LTS'  & then click 'edit' - then select multiverse/universe checkboxes
[12:44] <ome_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15646
[12:44] <Bassetts> In a virtual machine, is the set amount of RAM used constantly for a running machine, or does it use as much as it needs up to the limit?
[12:44] <intelikey> Frogzoo if they are not commented out there wont be a selection will there ?
[12:45] <ome_> hey frog i tried that earlier but that advice dosnt follow through in practice on my gui
[12:45] <Frogzoo> intelikey: for LTS 6.06 there is - it must be built into synaptic
[12:45] <jimmy89> what program do you recommened i use to console into cisco routers?
[12:45] <Frogzoo> jimmy89: telnet :)
[12:45] <ome_> there is no multiverse/universe when after edit
[12:45] <Frogzoo> jimmy89: or ssh if supported
[12:46] <intelikey> ome_ the looks ok.
[12:46] <Bassetts> Frogzoo: do you know about VMs??
[12:46] <ome_> my sources.list looks ok ?
[12:46] <intelikey> what you pasted is ok.
[12:46] <ome_> hmm
[12:46] <ome_> then back to the the original paste
[12:46] <Bassetts> ome_: i added multiverse and universe and only universe worked for me until someone posted their sources.list for me
[12:46] <intelikey> ome_ just do the   sudo apt-get update
[12:47] <ome_> aye aye cap
[12:47] <Bassetts> ome_: want me to paste my sources.list for you??
[12:47] <ome_> no thanks basset intelikely says mine is a go
[12:47] <intelikey> Bassetts did you look at his ?
[12:47] <Bassetts> intelikey: yes =)
[12:48] <Frogzoo> ome_: Ubuntu LTS 6.06 (binary)
[12:48] <Bassetts> intelikey: im not that silly now, plus it was someone from here
[12:48] <rolferic> Normally I don't have any problems with Ubuntu on my machine. But since the upgrade via synaptic to LTS my wireless network card and sound card in my laptop wont work with the new kernel, to get the machine working I logon with my old kernel and need to set things up again manuely!
[12:49] <jimmy89> frogzoo: does telnet connect to a router via com1?
[12:49] <ome_> Ok guys the plot thickins. I just ran sudo apt-get update heres what i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15647
[12:49] <Frogzoo> jimmy89: no - for that you need a serial terminal - like ckermit or minicom
[12:50] <Bassetts> intelikey: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nqQyIi79.html
[12:50] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: easy answer, try it & see what top says
[12:50] <Bassetts> top??
[12:50] <orbin> ome_: exactly what it says. that wine repos is 404
[12:50] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: from bash
[12:50] <jimmy89> do they have a nice gui that i can run from gnome?
[12:50] <Bassetts> ooo
[12:50] <ome_> what does that mean orbin?
[12:51] <Frogzoo> jimmy89: nope - strictly cli
[12:51] <ome_> cant connect ?
[12:51] <jimmy89> :'(
[12:51] <Bassetts> just didnt seem, look, or sound like a command Frogzoo =P
[12:51] <jimmy89> are there any that exist?
[12:51] <orbin> ome_: yep
[12:51] <orbin> ome_: why do you have it in there?
[12:51] <Frogzoo> jimmy89: a gui serial terminal emulator? o.O
[12:51] <Bassetts> Frogzoo: which colums shows amount of RAM being used??
[12:51] <jimmy89> yes
[12:52] <ome_> have what where?
[12:52] <jimmy89> well what i mean is
[12:52] <Ng> Bassetts: the RES one
[12:52] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: hit 'M' to sort by memuse
[12:52] <brosio> anyone that has firefox 1.5.0.4 and nvidia driver could open this link without mozilla crash ? http://www.securityfocus.com/data/vulnerabilities/exploits/sendtest.c
[12:52] <jimmy89> just like a shell i can have open whislt running gnome
[12:52] <|lostbyte|> how do i install a ttf font ?
[12:52] <brosio> anyone that has firefox 1.5.0.4 and nvidia driver could open this link without mozilla crash ? http://www.securityfocus.com/data/vulnerabilities/exploits/sendtest.c i get a crash of X
[12:52] <ubuntunewbie> I'm a complete linux (ubuntu newbie), could anyone help me for a sec?
[12:52] <kieranDOA> Whats up?
[12:52] <Ng> |lostbyte|: copy it to ~/.fonts/
[12:53] <Bassetts> =( seems to be using all 512mb at once
[12:53] <TigerWolf> ubuntunewbie: Just ask your question
[12:53] <Ng> |lostbyte|: (you may need to create that directory)
[12:53] <orbin> ome_: you have http://wine.budgetdedicated.com listed as a repository for packages... apt can't connect to it.
[12:53] <ubuntunewbie> well, i had some trouble mounting hd's, so now I just unmounted them all and wanted to start over
[12:53] <intelikey> folks i got to go fix an ellection.
[12:53] <ubuntunewbie> but now if I open "places - computer" it is still full with stuff
[12:53] <ubuntunewbie> is there any way to delete the disks I see there?
[12:53] <|lostbyte|> Ng, thats it ?
[12:53] <jimmy89> with minicom, how do i tell it to connect via com1 for example?
[12:53] <jimmy89> and how do i set the seed
[12:53] <rolferic> Is it know that the new TSL look at hardware much diffrent then before, especially wifi and sound?
[12:53] <jimmy89> *speed
[12:53] <ome_> so what do i do?
[12:53] <orbin> ome_: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' ... then either comment or remove the line for that url
[12:54] <brosio> anyine could help ?
[12:54] <TigerWolf> !windowsdrives
[12:54] <orbin> ome_: then run update again
[12:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[12:54] <Ng> |lostbyte|: should be, yep
[12:54] <hayden> are the divx/xvid codecs supported under w32codecs?
[12:54] <|lostbyte|> k
[12:54] <TigerWolf> hayden: I think they are seperate
[12:55] <Sonderblade> in ubuntu, how do you change from dhcp ip to static ip?
[12:55] <TigerWolf> !xvid
[12:55] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, TigerWolf
[12:55] <TigerWolf> !divx
[12:55] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[12:55] <orbin> TigerWolf: /msg ubotu please
[12:55] <ome_> hey orbin i think thats the line bazzi told me to add there earlier
[12:55] <KenSentMe> Anyone got the gdesklets for lm-sensors running? I've installed lm-sensors and when i run sensors i can see results, but the gdesklets show nothing. When i try to configure a temp gdesklets, the configuration menu won't show up. Anyone know why?
[12:55] <ome_> remove this? deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[12:55] <TigerWolf> orbin - yea ill use !tell - sorry
[12:55] <orbin> ome_: i just joined 5 mins ago...why'd he tell you to add it?
[12:56] <orbin> TigerWolf: thanks
[12:56] <ome_> he told me like a 3 step install wine method
[12:56] <farous> KenSentMe: i have it running here give me a min
[12:56] <ome_> unfortunately there was many problems and kinda been goin in circles since
[12:56] <Bazzi> :X
[12:56] <jimmy89> the real question i have is i am using network-manager, how can i set my wep key, to be stored in key#2, do you guys have any idea?
[12:56] <Bazzi> ome_: just enable universe through synaptic
[12:56] <Bazzi> it's simple as that :)
[12:56] <KenSentMe> farous: ok
[12:57] <ubuntunewbie> hmm, anyone up for a private chat about mounting drives or clearing up "places -> computer"?
[12:57] <farous> KenSentMe: right click on gkrellm and just configur sensors under builtins
[12:57] <ome_> ok im lost now, gonna go have a smoke break
[12:57] <ubuntunewbie> or is private chat not possible here? i dunno
[12:57] <Bassetts> Frgoz: is there a graphical top?? the terminal version confuses me alot =P
[12:57] <Bassetts> unless i can make them stop moving around *Frogzoo
[12:58] <|lostbyte|> Ng, Should i restart X server ?
[12:58] <farous> Bassetts: i think gnome sys monitor if you run gnome have your ans
[12:59] <Bassetts> cheers
[12:59] <hastesaver> ubuntunewbie, not recommended. Ask in the channel; more people can help you.
[12:59] <KenSentMe> farous: that works, but i was using the desklets and not the gkrellm
[12:59] <KenSentMe> farous: and the gdesklets don't work
[12:59] <Bassetts> farous: in sys monitor, is "resident memory" the mem used?
[12:59] <ubuntunewbie> ah okay
[12:59] <farous> KenSentMe: not all the gdesklets worked for me just search through them
[12:59] <farous> KenSentMe: sorry that is what i did
[01:00] <farous> Bassetts: lol i use top not sys monitor :)
[01:00] <KenSentMe> farous: ok, i'll try other
[01:00] <ubuntunewbie> if I go to "places -> computer" i see a lot of icons (share, temp, windows, 11,3 Gb-volumen) but I can't access them, nor delete them
[01:00] <ubuntunewbie> how do I delete them?
[01:02] <farous> ubuntunewbie: you unmount them not delete them
[01:02] <drummer87> hi, how can i set different wallpapers on each desktop in Gnome?
[01:02] <farous> ubuntunewbie: and they do nto take anyspace so why you want to remove them
[01:02] <ubuntunewbie> I have unmounted all of them through "system - admin - disks"
[01:02] <farous> drummer87: that is not easy as kde
[01:02] <|lostbyte|> Ng, Why are there so little fonts for konsole ?
[01:02] <|lostbyte|> anyone ?
[01:02] <ubuntunewbie> well, I want to have only the icons there which are actually linked to a drive
[01:02] <drummer87> farous: yeah.. i realised that, was wondering what app i can use, or which is best, etc.
[01:02] <farous> drummer87: it can be done but it id not designed to do that.
[01:02] <ome_> Anyone want to help me figure out why wine wont install?
[01:03] <ubuntunewbie> now there are a lot of disks shown, but none works...
[01:03] <farous> drummer87: frankly too much trouble
[01:03] <ubuntunewbie> i guess it's a bit difficult to understand what i mean
[01:03] <farous> ubuntunewbie: you needed just to double click on them
[01:03] <hastesaver> ubuntunewbie, how did you end up with them in the first place?
[01:03] <drummer87> :(
[01:04] <ubuntunewbie> hmm, well i made a  bit of a mess partitioning and deleting partitions
[01:04] <ome_> orbin, bazze, intelikely?
[01:04] <Bazzi> ome_, dude, just enable universe ;-)
[01:04] <ome_> i been tryin
[01:04] <Bazzi> !tell ome_ about repos
[01:05] <ome_> the tutorials dont work
[01:05] <jimmy89> anybody know if its possible to enter a wep key#2 in network-manager?
[01:05] <jimmy89> anybody know if its possible to enter a wep key#2 in network-manager?
[01:05] <jimmy89> sry, for the double line
[01:05] <ome_> I tried that bazzi,, dosnt match my gui
[01:05] <jimmy89> hit up arrow by mistake
[01:05] <farous> !tell ome_ about easysource !tell ome aobut repos
[01:05] <ubuntunewbie> i'm trying https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions#head-6036dacc4d033cfb40c0c3f3840439535508ed93 now
[01:05] <Bazzi> ome_: should do though, weird
[01:05] <farous> !tell ome_ about easysource
[01:06] <orbin> ome_: yeah, don't know why it's 404ing for you.  i just accessed it in firefox
[01:06] <KenSentMe> farous: i've tried all the gdesklets and none of them work. I even can't configure them.
[01:06] <farous> KenSentMe: i remeber i got my gdesklets package from the gdesklets site
[01:06] <farous> perhaps a newer ver is better
[01:06] <ome_> hmm must be my route, possibly isp
[01:06] <KenSentMe> farous: gonna try
[01:07] <farous> KenSentMe: warn you though they are problamatic gkrellm is much better
[01:07] <ome_> is there an alternative?
[01:08] <Terminus> doesn't apt-get install openssh-server also create an sshd user?
[01:08] <MrFaber_> hi all
[01:08] <shriphani> ogra ?
[01:08] <MrFaber_> Does anyone have experiences with vnc under amd64 ubuntu?
[01:08] <MrFaber_> It doesn't work for me
[01:08] <Terminus> just asking coz sshd won't start
[01:08] <hastesaver> ubuntunewbie, one way (use at your own risk) is to first backup your /etc/fstab, and then edit it to remove all the lines corresponding to nonexistent partitions. But be very careful, it could destroy your computer :)
[01:09] <orbin> ome_: try this in a terminal: ping wine.budgetdedicated.com
[01:09] <hastesaver> Terminus, what do you mean by sshd user? As soon as you install openssh-server, sshd should be running. Are you sure it isn't?
[01:09] <shriphani> orbin can i use the dapper install cd to upgrade ?
[01:09] <orbin> shriphani: yep
[01:09] <Terminus> hastesaver: it won't start because Privilege separation user sshd does not exist
[01:09] <shriphani> ok so do i put it in directly when breezy is running ?
[01:10] <Terminus> hastesaver: shouldn't the install scripts take care of that?
[01:10] <orbin> shriphani: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[01:10] <suprchris> will a partition formatted in ntfs say that you don't have the proper permissions within linux?
[01:10] <ome_> ping seems to be working fine orbin
[01:11] <hastesaver> Terminus, um sorry, I don't even know what "Privilege separation user sshd" means :) I installed the ssh package, and it was running, for me.
[01:11] <MrFaber_> Is there anywhere amd64 ubuntu support?
[01:11] <Terminus> hastesaver: it means that the sshd user doesn't exist. it needs that coz sshd should not be running as root. anyway, i guess i'll just try to reinstall. :)
[01:11] <orbin> ome_: pastebin your sources.list file pls
[01:11] <ome_> k sec
[01:12] <KenSentMe> farous: gdesklets in ubuntu is the latest version, and the lm sensors gdesklets are from 2004
[01:12] <suprchris> I have a partition that says only root has permission to view, i've used chmod but it didn't work. any suggestions?
[01:12] <farous> KenSentMe: i do not know just told you what worked for me
[01:12] <cafuego> suprchris: ntfs? fat32?
[01:12] <NET||abuse> hmm, fighting away with this xgl setup.. got x-server up and running after turning Load dri back on... was crashing out with messages about  poly request too long
[01:12] <cafuego> !ntfs
[01:12] <KenSentMe> farous: ok, thanx for your help
[01:12] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[01:13] <orbin> MrFaber_: yes but iirc not everything's available e.g i think there are problems with flash, java etc.
[01:13] <_jason> suprchris: what filesystem does it use?
[01:13] <NET||abuse> but i've got a reall weird behaviour
[01:13] <shriphani> i dont have the alternate cd :(
[01:13] <ome_> orbin_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15649
[01:13] <shriphani> i just got the dapper installation cd
[01:13] <Terminus> hastesaver: bah... something must have gone wrong the first time i installed it. now it created the sshd user. :|
[01:13] <suprchris> ntfs
[01:13] <NET||abuse> all the text and dialog options .. i can't see any text on anything.
[01:13] <suprchris> when i use chmod it can read it and says it's changing the file permissions but it still doesn't do anything
[01:13] <hastesaver> Terminus, ok, good. As long as it works, fine :)
[01:14] <_jason> suprchris: k, ubotu's link should help you out
[01:14] <Terminus> hastesaver: yep. i wonder what went wrong though...
[01:14] <shriphani> !dapper upgrades
[01:14] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, shriphani
[01:14] <shriphani> hmm
[01:14] <KenSentMe> !upgrade
[01:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[01:14] <shriphani> orbin, i dont have the alternate cd :(
[01:15] <MrFaber_> orbin: I have no desktop, I have a server, and that vnc doesn't work is a huge problem imho
[01:15] <ubuntunewbie> hastesaver, i edited /etc/fstab so that i have three drives mounted: hdb1 (linux install), hdb3 (swap) and cdrom
[01:16] <orbin> ome_: ok, i just added that deb line and it update fine...i don't know what's going on to be honest
[01:16] <ubuntunewbie> it's strange because when I go to /media it still shows me hda1, hda2, etc...
[01:16] <hastesaver> ubuntunewbie, ok, but don't blame me if something goes wrong :)
[01:16] <ome_> ok well thanks for tryin
[01:16] <hastesaver> ubuntunewbie, maybe you need to reboot.
[01:16] <Ayabara> I have vmware running a dapper server image. how can I upgrade to full desktop version?
[01:16] <ubuntunewbie> hmm, rebooting linux? thought that was never necessary :)
[01:16] <shriphani> hastesaver he might just need to unmount
[01:17] <shriphani> that is unmount the drives
[01:17] <shriphani> or the partitions
[01:17] <lig> How do I get autoconf version 2.13 loaded on to my ubuntu box?
[01:17] <orbin> MrFaber_: sorry, i'm not a 64 user nor a vnc user....have you had a look at the forums/wiki?
[01:17] <ubuntunewbie> i unmounted all but hdb1 and hdb3 via "system - admin - drives"
[01:17] <shriphani> orbin, will the normal cd work in place of the alternate one ?
[01:17] <orbin> ome_: hmmm, you also had a dpkg lock problem...is synaptic open or something?
[01:18] <hastesaver> lig install autoconf2.13 package
[01:18] <shriphani> hey wait did you edit /etc/fstab ?
[01:18] <ubuntunewbie> when I type 'mount' in shell i also only see hdb1
[01:18] <ome_> it isnt now
[01:18] <ubuntunewbie> yeah, i edited /etc/fstab
[01:18] <ome_> it may have been before
[01:18] <shriphani> i guess you need to reboot
[01:18] <ubuntunewbie> hard reboot, or only logout-login?
[01:18] <ome_> whats the line i type to connect to wine again?
[01:19] <ome_> to update it
[01:19] <orbin> shriphani: apparently not
[01:19] <lig> hastesaver, get the error "no such file or directory" - used the command "sudo install autoconf2.13 package
[01:19] <lig> "
[01:19] <MrFaber_> orbin: thx
[01:19] <MrFaber_> cu all
[01:19] <Ayabara> is there a way to upgrade ubuntu server to ubuntu desktop version?
[01:19] <ubuntunewbie> i'll be right back
[01:19] <mjr> Ayabara, basically, install the ubuntu-desktop package
[01:19] <shriphani> orbin so ubuntu isnt offering alternate cds for shipping ?
[01:19] <mjr> using apt-get or synaptic
[01:19] <Ayabara> mjr: thanks!
[01:19] <hastesaver> lig sorry, that's not the way you install. Do "sudo apt-get install autoconf2.13", or better, read the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware page
[01:20] <mjr> (come to think of it, the server edition doesn't necessarily have synaptic, so apt-get it is :)
[01:20] <lig> Thank you hastesaver
[01:20] <shriphani> but ogra told me to pop in the cd while breezy was running
[01:21] <lig> Excellant - it's going
[01:21] <NZheretic> Is anybody else finding that firefox is crashing when your using it via remote-X?
[01:21] <kholerabbi> Anybody know how to get sound to work in wine?
[01:22] <ogra> shriphani, did i ?
[01:22] <shriphani> yes ogra
[01:22] <shriphani> remember artisan ?
[01:23] <hastesaver> lig BTW, as a general advice -- install everything only through one of the methods on that page; avoid installing from files downloaded from the net as far as possible
[01:23] <NZheretic> kholerabbi : The easy way is to install the wine-esd module.
[01:23] <ogra> shriphani, ah, yes
[01:23] <kholerabbi> NZheretic: I'll have a look, thanks :)
[01:23] <suprchris> how do you exit man pages
[01:23] <shriphani> so now i am told it wont work
[01:23] <hastesaver> suprchris, type 'q'
[01:23] <_jason> suprchris: q
[01:23] <ome_> still gettin the 404 on wine.. and syn isnt open
[01:23] <lig> hastesaver, understood - but need to build PHP6 from source... unless ya'll have it available through the apt-get :)
[01:24] <suprchris> man, i typed every letter but that one, how ironic
[01:24] <kholerabbi> is php6 out?
[01:24] <lig> no - only cvs... very unstable
[01:24] <ogra> shriphani, if you put in the install CD it will pop up an upgrade dialog
[01:24] <kholerabbi> wine-esd ins't in the repositories?
[01:24] <shriphani> oh
[01:25] <hastesaver> lig, you're right; newer versions take time to be entered into the repos... so that's an exception :)
[01:25] <ome_> mayne i should take out the http?
[01:25] <shriphani> unfortunately i havent recieved the install cds yet
[01:25] <lig> hastesaver,  :D
[01:25] <shriphani> dammit] 
[01:26] <shriphani> ogra, you were telling me about ubuntu stopping shipit
[01:26] <kholerabbi> COuld someone help me install wine-esd for me winish sound?
[01:27] <orbin> ome_: you could always just grab them manually: open firefox, go here: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/  grab all the .deb packages for your distro.  install them using dpkg -i <debfile>
[01:27] <ogra> shriphani, i did what ? ubuntu isnt stopping shipit yet, surely not
[01:27] <shriphani> oh cool
[01:27] <shriphani> the last time we were talking on edubuntu i had a damned power cut
[01:29] <chessman> has anyone tried, or managed, to get XGL/Compiz to work with a window manager other than Gnome or KDE ... like, say, fluxbox?
[01:29] <NET||abuse> hmm, i'm up against an odd event in xgl here.. when i start my gnome-session... i get just the weirdest rendering, can't see any text on anything, and most things are just flat colours, no icon details or anything.
[01:29] <dooglus> does anyone recognise this web browser?  http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/2006-06-13--13-26-44.png
[01:29] <ubuntunewbie> hello again
[01:30] <ubuntunewbie> i did something wrong with nvidia drivers, and now ubuntu won't start in graphics mode
[01:30] <NET||abuse> i can mouse over an dialogs and get drop downs to go down,, but i can't see the menu entries, it's all just flat.
[01:30] <kholerabbi> Hey could someone help me get sound in wine - how do I get wine esd?
[01:30] <ubuntunewbie> and in text mode I do not know how to remedy the problem
[01:30] <ubuntunewbie> there is an x-server error
[01:31] <NET||abuse> i'm on the "ati" drivers for radeon mobility 7500 and i followed the xgl compiz standard wiki entry on ubuntu forums
[01:31] <AnDrEw|> hey, i just wondering if ubuntu supports the belkin wireless card?
[01:31] <Zambezi> I'll install Ubuntu serverinstall soon, with FVWM. But which x-server should I install?
[01:31] <kedde> I'll need to connect to my school via a vpn connection, does anybody know which program I should use?
[01:33] <orbin> Zambezi: there's one besides xorg?
[01:34] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: what did you to cause it?
[01:34] <iNFERNo_TheDestr> Hi. Is there any way to fix the problems in the DSA with a tool like in gentoo glsa-check ?
[01:34] <nikk> after update to dapper, i get kernel oops on boot and it seems my network card stopped working. a known problem?
[01:34] <Zambezi> orbin: No, but there are several versions like x-server, x-server-core -dev etc.
[01:35] <kenas> hi
[01:35] <iNFERNo_TheDestr> or if there is a dedicated Ubuntu Security Advisory and a tool for that. Thank you
[01:35] <kenas> i have recently upgraded ubuntu to 6.06
[01:35] <Zambezi> orbin: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=dapper&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=xserver&searchon=names
[01:35] <kenas> and samba doesnt work
[01:35] <kenas> any help for this ?
[01:36] <Hoxzer> :) there is howto for it at wiki
[01:36] <Hoxzer> what is problem btw?
[01:36] <Hoxzer> does it ask pw that u dunno?
[01:37] <NZheretic> Help. firefox crashes while viewing http://www.real.com/linux/
[01:38] <Ignite> NZheretic, which version of firefox? also, thats probably a bug in firefox and not ubuntu, it loads fine in version 1.5.0.4
[01:38] <nikk> you somebody help with this: after update to dapper, i get kernel oops on boot and it seems my network card stopped working. a known problem?
[01:38] <Etheri> NZheretic: no problems here. Firefox 1.5.0.4
[01:38] <nikk> i mean can somebody..
[01:38] <AnDrEw|> hey i wanna no what wireless card for laptop will work on *nix
[01:38] <NZheretic> Firefox 1.5.0.4
[01:38] <RandomDude15> guys I Need help
[01:38] <RandomDude15> bad
[01:39] <AnDrEw|> PRISM2 or sumit?
[01:39] <RandomDude15> I cant boot into my kubuntu because I have a file system with errors.
[01:39] <Ignite> NZheretic, try clearing your cache, Tools -> Clear Private Data, tick "cache" then click "Clear Pricate Data Now"
[01:39] <ubuntunewbie> I accidentally installed the wrong nvidia drivers and now gnome won't start. i can install nvidia drivers via 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common', right? but do i have to uninstall the current (not-working) drivers first?
[01:40] <ome_> hey orbin do i download the non deb files?
[01:40] <orbin> ome_: you don't need to, no
[01:41] <Ignite> ome_, are you the ome from controlthesystem.org?
[01:41] <ubuntunewbie> anyone, please?
[01:41] <ome_> no im the original ome
[01:41] <Ignite> ok
[01:41] <ome_> never knew another ome
[01:41] <Bassetts> is there any linux/open source/ubuntu podcasts?
[01:41] <hastesaver> ome_, no you're not. You're just ome_ , not ome :p
[01:41] <edney_brasil> morning all!
[01:42] <ome_> name snatchers
[01:42] <Etheri> morning edney!
[01:42] <ome_> i was the first and only ome
[01:42] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: which 'wrong ones' did you install?  and how?
[01:42] <ubuntu> hey
[01:43] <assasukasse> hi all, does it exist an applet which "searches" wireless in ubuntu? (sort of scan for wireless in winzoze)
[01:43] <Ignite> ubuntunewbie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[01:43] <ubuntunewbie> i installed the legacy drivers, since i read that for older geforce2 cards i needed them
[01:43] <ome_> orbin_: so i type dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:43] <ubuntunewbie> but then I rebooted and gnome wouldn't start
[01:43] <ubuntunewbie> and now I've read somewhere else that my Geforce2 MX (!) is supported by the newer drivers
[01:43] <ubuntu> i understand there has been some bug fixes since the dapper release already?
[01:44] <ubuntunewbie> so I have to switch back
[01:44] <jeico> assasukasse: i think it's nessus. correct me if wrong
[01:44] <orbin> ome_: yes
[01:44] <orbin> ome_: need sudo in front
[01:44] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: so I installed them via the package manager
[01:44] <ome_> only the 606 ones?
[01:45] <jeico> or kismet
[01:45] <Ignite> assasukasse, i don't know much about wireless but try kismet: http://www.kismetwireless.net/
[01:45] <jeico> right ;)
[01:45] <Ignite> damn, jeico got there before me :P
[01:45] <jeico> yep
[01:45] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: sudo apt-get removenvidia-glx-legacy
[01:45] <vinboy> how do I check my Xorg version?
[01:45] <orbin> *space after remove
[01:45] <ome_> hmm errors galore, smoke time
[01:46] <shriphani> namastey thyagarajan
[01:46] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: that will uninstall the legacy ones.  then you can grab the normal nvidia-glx package
[01:46] <_jason> vinboy: Xorg -version
[01:46] <thyagarajan> Vanakkam
[01:46] <vinboy> thanks
[01:46] <shriphani> ahh tamil
[01:46] <xored> what app to use for pdf editing ?
[01:46] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: and i can do that via "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common", right?
[01:47] <shriphani> xored, use open office
[01:47] <thyagarajan> 
[01:47] <shriphani> it exports to pdf :)
[01:47] <xored> shriphani: nope, got PDF, i need to edit
[01:47] <thyagarajan> any php channels?
[01:47] <shriphani> oh
[01:47] <shriphani> no idea :)
[01:47] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: i catually have an ati card.  where are you getting that kernel-common from? the wiki only says you need the glx package
[01:47] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: and, I also installed nvidia-settings
[01:48] <Ignite> xored, openoffice.org has a pdf export feature if i remember :)
[01:48] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: ehmmm, i read it on this site...
[01:48] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: are you on dapper?
[01:48] <brett_> hey fellas
[01:48] <xored> Ignite: i HAVE pdf and need to EDIT. I dont need to create one :)
[01:48] <Ignite> hrm
[01:48] <thyagarajan> try pdf2edit
[01:48] <brett_> can someone have a look at my fstab and tell me why my HDD wont mount?
[01:49] <apokryphos> brett_: pastebin it
[01:49] <apokryphos> brett_: also let us know of the error you're getting
[01:49] <ubuntunewbie> orbin, dapper, yes
[01:49] <akappa> xored, just buy adobe acrobat standard
[01:49] <akappa> :P
[01:49] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: i found it here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:49] <brett_> yeah, i will
[01:49] <Bassetts> is there any linux/open source/ubuntu podcasts?
[01:49] <shriphani> apokryphos, why do i always get these var/lib errors with apt-get ?
[01:49] <luk> is there a command to convert a number into hours min sec ?
[01:49] <luk> a bash command
[01:50] <Ignite> xored, http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/06/0612209
[01:50] <apokryphos> shriphani: you're going to have to be a lot more descriptive
[01:50] <apokryphos> shriphani: pastebin?
[01:50] <shriphani> ok
[01:50] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: i'll just try this and see if it works :)
[01:50] <NET||abuse> omfg!!! i gotit!
[01:50] <ubuntunewbie> brb
[01:50] <Ignite> ?
[01:50] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: grab those two then....installing nvidia-settings in dapper removes the nvidia-glx package...maybe that's why it failed
[01:50] <NET||abuse> got wobbly and stuff workin on an old ati radeon mobility 7500!!
[01:51] <NET||abuse> don't seem to have more than one desktop
[01:51] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: according to the official wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:51] <benyx> Hi!  i have a little question!...  how i can put a Trash icon on my desktop
[01:51] <Ignite> NET||abuse, is that using the unofficial drivers?
[01:51] <NET||abuse> using "ati
[01:51] <NET||abuse> "ati"
[01:51] <ome_> orbin_: i only do the 606 ones right?
[01:51] <kholerabbi> I have no sound in wine - could someone help me with wine-esd???
[01:51] <Ignite> :O
[01:51] <brett_> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15650. I get an error message with something like "line 9 in fstab is bad" (cant remember the exact error, but its like 9 in fstab
[01:51] <shriphani> malformed line ?
[01:51] <NET||abuse> hehe, this is a 3 year old compaq Evo N610c
[01:51] <NET||abuse> hehe,
[01:52] <apokryphos> brett_: what does sudo mount -a tell you?
[01:52] <brett_> line*
[01:52] <orbin> ome_: yep
[01:52] <NET||abuse> the windows are all mad wobbly
[01:52] <Ignite> NET||abuse, do you have any links that i might be able to read? i have a radeon 7000, i never bothered even trying :P
[01:52] <NET||abuse> and they fade to greay when i'm not usin em
[01:52] <brett_> apokryphos, line 10 in fstab is bad
[01:52] <shriphani> http://pastebin.com/706292
[01:52] <apokryphos> brett_: "nls=utf8" ?
[01:52] <shriphani> apokryphos, http://pastebin.com/706292
[01:53] <NET||abuse> the f12 function works well.. me likey :)
[01:53] <shriphani> sorry for the repeating
[01:53] <dempa> I'm trying to get bluetooth to work between my desktop & SE T630 after an reinstallation but I get key missmatch everytime tough I have doubled and trippled checked the pin, using pinwrapper, sending files between is ok, the cellphone just doesn't want to add my desktop to "My devices". Any help would be appreciated
[01:53] <ome_> orbin_:dpkg: error processing wine_0.9.15~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb (--install):
[01:53] <ome_>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[01:53] <brett_> apokryphos,  I dont know what that is. my friend had a go at mounting it
[01:53] <NET||abuse> Ignite.. i just read through all the links on the dapper xgl wiki
[01:53] <_nano_> could anyone suggest a nice editor for gnome that has code highlighting and code folding?
[01:53] <NET||abuse> i did have some issues which i solved myself
[01:53] <apokryphos> shriphani: from what command is that? Also, could you pastebin your sources.list?
[01:53] <clast> hey
[01:53] <_nano_> gedit seems to mess up php embedded in html
[01:53] <orbin> ome_: oh. you're on a 64 install....
[01:53] <shriphani> ok
[01:53] <apokryphos> brett_: remove that part then, and remount.
[01:54] <shriphani> the command was sudo apt-get install joe
[01:54] <brett_> remount?
[01:54] <Ignite> NET||abuse, ok thanks
[01:54] <apokryphos> brett_: for a decent guide on mounting NTFS partitions you really should check the FAQ
[01:54] <benyx> Hi!  i have a little question!...  how i can put a Trash icon on my desktop
[01:54] <clast> tvtime and the fglrx driver don't work together (something about missing XV). any suggestions what to do?
[01:54] <apokryphos> shriphani: ok, does sudo apt-get update give you errors too?
[01:54] <NET||abuse> ooh, alt-tab seems to make thing  go kaka
[01:54] <MetaMorfoziS> can i download 64bit kubuntu for intel?
[01:54] <ome_> yah... Hey orbin what do you consider the best version of ubuntu?
[01:54] <MetaMorfoziS> for 64bit intel?
[01:54] <shriphani> apokryphos, only till the immediate installation is performed
[01:54] <apokryphos> MetaMorfoziS: yes
[01:54] <shriphani> then it goes back to showing the same problems
[01:55] <ome_> breezy ? dapper? xubuntu?
[01:55] <orbin> ome_: what do you mean?  best is what suits the user most imo
[01:55] <MetaMorfoziS> where?
[01:55] <apokryphos> shriphani: sorry?
[01:55] <cart> Anyone is in trouble to install the package mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail after upgrade the thunderbird to 1.5.0.4.0ubuntu6.06 ???
[01:55] <MetaMorfoziS> apokryphos: where?
[01:55] <kholerabbi> I have no sound in wine - help!!!
[01:55] <ome_> wondering whats the all around best linux os
[01:55] <kholerabbi> ??
[01:55] <ic56> brett_: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:55] <MetaMorfoziS> in the list only 64bit for amd
[01:55] <Whoopie> Hi, where can I find the the build progress of the dapper-updates packages?
[01:55] <shriphani> i mean i do an apt-get update and then i can install w/e i wanr
[01:55] <Frogzoo> ome_: how long is a piece of string?
[01:55] <shriphani> but after the installation it shows the same problems
[01:55] <brett_> ic56, 6.06
[01:56] <ome_> 248 feet
[01:56] <shriphani> those that i pasted in patebin
[01:56] <apokryphos> MetaMorfoziS: "For computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon)."
[01:56] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ that is amd
[01:56] <MetaMorfoziS> i need for intel
[01:56] <Whoopie> cart: Martin Pitt told me that mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail is already uploaded to dapper-security. Will be there soon.
[01:56] <nikk> my network stopped working after upgrade, what could i do?
[01:56] <ic56> the hdd in question is NTFS?
[01:56] <apokryphos> shriphani: what's the exact output of sudo apt-get update?
[01:56] <MetaMorfoziS> hm
[01:56] <MetaMorfoziS> okay:D
[01:56] <ic56> brett_: the hdd in question is NTFS?
[01:56] <apokryphos> MetaMorfoziS: em64t is AMD? No....
[01:56] <cart> Whoopie: Hmm, ok, thanks! :)
[01:56] <Frogzoo> nikk: echo > /etc/iftab & reboot
[01:57] <ome_> orbin_: is wine not good with amd64?
[01:57] <apokryphos> ome_: it was only recently released; ubuntu doesn't have it.
[01:57] <brett_> ic56, yeah
[01:57] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, thanx
[01:57] <shriphani> you want me to paste it apokryphos ?
[01:57] <apokryphos> shriphani: pastebin, yes.
[01:57] <shriphani> in pastebin that is
[01:57] <kenas> i have recently upgraded ubuntu to 6.06
[01:57] <shriphani> ok
[01:57] <kenas> and samba doesnt work
[01:57] <kenas> any help for this ?
[01:57] <ome_> wondering if i should get a diffrent non 64 release
[01:58] <apokryphos> ome_: FAQ explains the pros/cons
[01:58] <ome_> cant get flash to work either
[01:58] <apokryphos> flash won't work with Ubuntu's 64-bit install
[01:58] <Hso> yeah, you need to use a 32-bit browser to use flash on a 64-bit OS, i think...
[01:58] <apokryphos> unless you get into chroots etc
[01:58] <nikk> Frogzoo: i could try that but i need to reboot. ifup says something about not finding the device. will the iftab thing help?
[01:58] <ic56> brett_: just a sec
[01:58] <brett_> ic56, thanks
[01:58] <apokryphos> Hso: not necessarily, you could have a 64-bit browser that can handle 32-bit plugins (i.e. Konqueror)
[01:59] <apokryphos> Firefox can't, though
[01:59] <Hso> ew ;P I'd rather use firefox :D
[01:59] <afflux> tag...
[01:59] <apokryphos> Hso: you still couldn't use it on Ubuntu without a chroot though; no BiArch-compatible.
[01:59] <NZheretic> Ok. The problem with firefox seems to be occuring with remote-X, locally it works fine.
[02:00] <brett_> also, can anyone help me fix my sound? I had a logitech USB headset in, and after I made it the default sound device, neither it or my onboard will work.
[02:00] <nikk> brett_: the sound was muted for me when i upgraded. have checked that?
[02:00] <Hso> apokryphos, I have no idea what you're talking about :P
[02:00] <ome_> what ubunut would you use apokyphos if you had a athlon FX55?
[02:00] <ic56> cat: z2: No such file or directory
[02:00] <ic56> brett_: Download and run this script: http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[02:00] <brett_> nikk, yeah. i get an error saying it is not properly configured when i try to play a song in xmms
[02:01] <apokryphos> Hso: AMD64s can perfectly well execute 32-bit binaries (it's backward-compatible), but the Ubuntu package management system isn't set to be BiArch-compatible unfortunately.
[02:01] <brett_> ic56, thanks, will do
[02:01] <Frogzoo> nikk: maybe, can't say til you try it
[02:01] <apokryphos> Hso: some talk of getting it to be for Edgy, but we'll have to wait and see.
[02:01] <ic56> brett_: if you don't supply any flags, it will interactively ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.
[02:01] <brett_> ic56, flags?
[02:01] <Hso> ah :P
[02:01] <ic56> brett_: Answer no.  point your browser to that URL, and page down to "Instructions".  Read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will do the rest.  I'm the author of this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[02:01] <Hso> I still have no idea what chroot is :P
[02:02] <kholerabbi> Anyone know how to get sound in wine?
[02:02] <Frogzoo> Hso: -> google
[02:02] <kholerabbi> Or how to install wine-esd?
[02:02] <Hso> google is too complex!! :P
[02:02] <brett_> ic56, awesome
[02:02] <ome_> i better just get the 32bit release for now...
[02:02] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: avoid esd with wine - try winecfg -> audio
[02:02] <apokryphos> Hso: it's like another Ubuntu installation on your computer. It's often used for building packages (since you can get a completely new environment) or for distributions like Ubuntu which aren't BiArch so you can have 32bit programs
[02:02] <Hso> ah
[02:03] <orbin> Hso: google 'how to google' ;)
[02:03] <Hso> orbin - never! :P
[02:03] <Hso> I know how to use google, but it's not always helpful :P
[02:03] <Hso> currently reading wikipedia's text for chroot XD
[02:03] <cristos> hello
[02:03] <kholerabbi> Frogzoo: OK what do I select???
[02:03] <Ignite> does anyone know the difference between compiz-quinn and compiz-vanilla?
[02:03] <cristos> got a problem with writing/reading to serial port, need help please (read returns -1)
[02:03] <apokryphos> Ignite: compiz-vanilla is the FDO packs, without external 3rd-party additions
[02:04] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: alsa if you're on dapper? otherwise, whichever sound system youu're using - oss or alsa
[02:04] <Ignite> apokryphos, ok thanks :)
[02:04] <kholerabbi> breezy
[02:04] <apokryphos> Ignite: compiz-quinn is a modified compiz by Quinn and a few other 3rd-party developers
[02:04] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: go alsa - & select alsa from thte multimedia selector
[02:04] <ome_> Ok im gonna format and reinstall... What do you consider the best? breezy? dapper drake? kubuntu? xubuntu? edubuntu?
[02:04] <Ignite> apokryphos, so, i should be safe with either right?
[02:04] <Hso> hmm... chroot sounds good :P what does it stand for ? change root ?_?
[02:04] <ubuntu> hello
[02:04] <apokryphos> ome_: Kubuntu Dapper :P
[02:04] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: note that with alsa you can only have one sound source at a time
[02:05] <apokryphos> Ignite: they'll have different options, they should both run fine though.
[02:05] <shriphani> apokryphos, http://pastebin.com/706315
[02:05] <ubuntu> how to install a desktop on 6.06 server
[02:05] <Frogzoo> Hso: bingo
[02:05] <ome_> apokryphos that a joke or you serious?
[02:05] <Hso> ah
[02:05] <Ignite> apokryphos, ok thanks a lot
[02:05] <apokryphos> ome_: deadly =)
[02:05] <apokryphos> shriphani: ok, re-enter that sudo apt-get foo command
[02:05] <ubuntu> something lie fluxbox
[02:05] <apokryphos> ubuntu: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <ome_> k k har har har
[02:05] <shriphani> ok
[02:05] <apokryphos> ubuntu: for fluxbox.... /msg ubotu fluxbox
[02:06] <apokryphos> ome_: as in, I'm not joking. KDE is the way to go =)
[02:06] <Bassetts> is there any good linux/open source/ubuntu podcasts?
[02:06] <NET||abuse> how can i point the stdout of starting up gnome-session & into a file?
[02:06] <apokryphos> ome_: and Dapper is latest stable release
[02:06] <Hso> KDE has far too much junk for my liking :(
[02:06] <apokryphos> Hso: we like to call that configurability and extensibility :)
[02:06] <orbin> here we go again
[02:06] <Hso> I call it "junk" :P
[02:06] <shriphani> apokryphos, it is working fine
[02:07] <MetaMorfoziS> is there anyway to run ventrilo on ubuntu?
[02:07] <shriphani> lemme close the terminal and reopen it
[02:07] <Frogzoo> compromise - configurable & extensible junk
[02:07] <Hso> I don't need to see a list of 300+ appz when i just want to access one of them :P
[02:07] <Hso> heh
[02:07] <ome_> hey apokryphos im taking your word.. gettin kbuntu
[02:07] <apokryphos> Hso: hm, I wouldn't say it had "junk" that way. And anyway, with regard to applications, GTK/GNOME are just as guilty of having several applications to do the same thing 8)
[02:08] <apokryphos> ome_: join us in #kubuntu if you have any questions :)
[02:08] <kholerabbi> frogzoo: thanks I'll check
[02:08] <Hso> it's alot easier to find the app I want in Gnome :P
[02:08] <apokryphos> Hso: really?
[02:08] <graveson> tried installing ubuntu on usb external disk. it hangs about 95% ,any ideas on this
[02:09] <hastesaver> ome_, you can have both the GNOME Ubuntu and kubuntu simultaneously, so you won't be losing anything whichever you choose
[02:09] <apokryphos> I always know whatever app I want, so even now the menu is pretty useless
[02:09] <apokryphos> waste of my time :P
[02:09] <Hso> apokryphos, for me, it is :P
[02:09] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: I just discovered Deskbar a couple days ago & suddenly everything is at your fingertips - so cool
[02:09] <Hso> but then again I only used KDE for about 5-10minutes(Knoppix) to test my network connection.... once it failed, I reset and back into ubuntu/Gnome :D
[02:09] <hastesaver> Hso, how can it be the "app you want" when you don't know its name? ;)
[02:09] <Ruka> ...............
[02:09] <assasukasse> could someone help me with network manager?
[02:10] <whadar> hello, how can i set the task panel to show 2 rows of tasks?
[02:10] <shriphani> assasukasse, what happened
[02:10] <Hso> hastesaver, it's so complex that i'm not even going to answer that ;P
[02:10] <jftrading> hello
[02:10] <Ruka> hi
[02:10] <graveson> if the bios does not allow me to boot from usbdisk ,how can i tell the kernel to boot from this usbdisk
[02:10] <brett_> hey ic56 . im having some slight problems running it. should it not run when i type "sudo bash ~/desktop/diskmounter-latest.txt"???
[02:10] <assasukasse> shriphani i installed it but it doesn't show..
[02:10] <ic56> brett_: yes, it should.  What error message do you get?
[02:10] <assasukasse> where should i look for it? i installed the gnome frontend also shriphani
[02:10] <shriphani> do you click on the icon and does it ask for yer password
[02:10] <ubuntu> the intalation of fluxbox looks complicated is it ok to apt-get install fluxbox-desktop?
[02:10] <Frogzoo> graveson: you can't :(
[02:11] <hastesaver> apokryphos, is the Dapper kubuntu much different from the breezy one? I used to use KDE, but I've been using GNOME since I installed Dapper (too lazy to get KDE). Am I missing something other than I what I already know I'm missing? :)
[02:11] <assasukasse> shriphani i don't see any icon.
[02:11] <brett_> no such file or directory
[02:11] <shriphani> ok
[02:11] <rivethead> Anyone running Dapper on a Dell XPS gen2 laptop?
[02:11] <prower> Hello :> I'm running Dapper with all of the most recent updates installed, I'm having an unusual problem with the console text...it stretches off the top and bottom parts of the screen enough that it's impossible to see the command prompt with a clear screen ;> Anyone know how I might be able to change that?
[02:11] <m_0_r_0_n> How do you configure the graficcard?
[02:12] <olicat> hi all. i've got a macbook pro, but had enough of it, so i want to replace it with pc based laptop. i like sony vaio fe's - but how well do they work with ubuntu? (need good sleep support)
[02:12] <apokryphos> hastesaver: it has a newer version of KDE than Breezy did. A few more modifications with Guidance, improvements to Katapult, and such things.
[02:12] <brett_> ic56, no such file or directory. and i cant copy it to another place, i think i dont have rights
[02:12] <m0gsi> Hi all i was just wondering where gnome is located
[02:12] <m_0_r_0_n> How do you list all configure commands?
[02:12] <rivethead> oilcat : Dell laptops work really nice with Dapper.
[02:12] <ic56> brett_: remember that the unix filesystem is case sensitive.  You typed `desktop' which is not the same as `Desktop'.  The latter is correct.  If you saved diskmounter-latest.txt with any uppercase letters, you need to pay attention to those too.
[02:13] <olicat> rivethead aye, they're alright. i use that combo at work, but for home i want something a bit sexier than a dell :)
[02:13] <ubuntu> how to install fluxbox is there a howto
[02:13] <apokryphos> m_0_r_0_n: ./configure --help?
[02:13] <assasukasse> shriphani now i rebooted and have the applet, but says no net, while i am connected by wireless..
[02:13] <brett_> ahhhhh
[02:13] <apokryphos> ubuntu: /msg ubotu fluxbox
[02:13] <rivethead> oilcat : even sexier than the new XPS ? :P
[02:13] <orbin> m0gsi: waht are you trying to do?
[02:13] <m_0_r_0_n> xserver-configure?
[02:13] <ic56> brett_: let me know how it goes.
[02:13] <brett_> ic56, Damn case sensative crap
[02:13] <ubuntu> i did that its to complicated
[02:13] <m_0_r_0_n> xorg-configure?
[02:13] <brett_> ic56, thanks
[02:13] <m0gsi> Orbin i'm trying to change the splash screen
[02:13] <apokryphos> m_0_r_0_n: you want to configure your X?
[02:13] <m_0_r_0_n> yes
[02:13] <apokryphos> m_0_r_0_n: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:13] <olicat> rivethead i'm not into dells bulky case design. i'll look up the xps
[02:13] <orbin> m0gsi: the one that show up when gnome is loading?
[02:14] <apokryphos> ubuntu: install "fluxbox" package
[02:14] <rivethead> oilcat : i do have a friend that run's Dapper on one of the newer model vaio's i can ask him later for you how it works out , you can email me at rivethead@gmail.com
[02:14] <shriphani> no net ?
[02:14] <m0gsi> Ya i've got a replacement file and art.gnome.com? is telling me to find the gnome directory i think
[02:14] <jimmy89> any1 know how to let networkmanager configure wep key#2?
[02:14] <shriphani> erm sorry i have no idea about netowrk manager
[02:14] <ubuntu> apokryphos: the wiki is to complicated what apt-get install fluxbox desktop
[02:14] <olicat> rivethead i'll drop you a note, thanks a lot
[02:14] <shriphani> i use airsnort
[02:14] <orbin> m0gsi: either install gtweakui, or go directly into gconf-editor to specify the splash image
[02:14] <rivethead> oilcat : your not looking to get rid of that macbook pro are you ? :)
[02:14] <apokryphos> ubuntu: why do you want to use fluxbox?
[02:14] <m0gsi> can i just use the full path of it?
[02:14] <olicat> rivethead the xps is a bit big
[02:15] <Frogzoo> !laptop
[02:15] <ubotu> I guess laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[02:15] <ubuntu> because its light i will run vmware
[02:15] <rivethead> oilcat : yeah it is, the Gen2 compacts are quit nice though thats what im on right now.
[02:15] <olicat> rivethead my girlfriend is having the mbp. trust me, you dont want one :)
[02:15] <orbin> m0gsi: fine. be that way: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[02:15] <rivethead> oilcat : really , thats a shame to hear i was excited about those.
[02:15] <olicat> me too
[02:16] <m0gsi> lol sorry orbin
[02:16] <olicat> rivethead the heat is staggering. i want a laptop i can use on my lap
[02:16] <brett_> ic56, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15652     is that alright?
[02:16] <orbin> m0gsi: lol.  guess it's another way of doing things.  no offence meant :)
[02:16] <m0gsi> Thanks orbin i was just looking for the packages of gtweakui but thanks i'll do it manually
[02:16] <rivethead> olicat : i have heard that they do run quite hot, i only have one problem with dapper on a laptop really and it doesnt bug me to terribly much.
[02:16] <orbin> m0gsi: yeah, just replace the image i guess
[02:16] <ic56> brett_: hang on
[02:16] <Frogzoo> olicat: radicat
[02:16] <Frogzoo> olicat: radical
[02:16] <AlexC> Hey,
[02:17] <m0gsi> I'll put one in the same folder as i like the deafult one as well !
[02:17] <AlexC> Does anyone know of a good FTP client with a nice GUI? gFTP really does suck, and the lack of a tree view is even worse and makes my fingers hurt because of all the navigating of the folders
[02:17] <orbin> m0gsi: then you'll still have to specify which image to use w/ gtweakui or gconf-editor
[02:17] <m0gsi> I know i've found it in gconf
[02:17] <rivethead> olicat : have you played with any of the other new mac laptops?
[02:17] <orbin> m0gsi: gtwekaui is in  universe
[02:18] <orbin> m0gsi: ah righto
[02:18] <robin__> hey all, I have a problem and hoping someone here can help, everytime I try to install java I get an error that its going to brake packages. any Idea's?
[02:18] <apokryphos> robin__: how are you installing
[02:18] <ic56> brett_: ah. you've been messing around with /etc/fstab :-).  Ok, the script can fix it for you.  run it with the -b flag.
[02:18] <m0gsi> I think i'll get gtwekaui anyway as long as i can find it in synaptic
[02:18] <brett_> ic56, thanks, trying
[02:18] <robin__> good
[02:18] <olicat> rivethead the 13" i've had a loot at. seems nice, but so did the pro at first
[02:18] <janek1212> hi
[02:18] <rivethead> olicat : how are they on overall laptop horsepower?
[02:18] <Frogzoo> what's the diff between gtweakui & Ala carte?
[02:19] <EmxBA> does anyone understand this when i say "Margolis IT Solutions" :D
[02:19] <EmxBA> maybe any op.
[02:19] <osfameron> nope
[02:19] <EmxBA> :D
[02:19] <olicat> rivethead it's pretty fast, but i haven't put any other os on it, so nothing to compare it to
[02:19] <m0gsi> lol orbin i don't have permission to write to that folder
[02:19] <EmxBA> come on people, I'm looking for someone who really knowes what does Margolis IT Solutions stand for
[02:20] <robin__> installing through adept and tried apt-get and tried auto matrix, java wont install
[02:20] <EmxBA> it is connected to Ubuntu :D
[02:20] <orbin> m0gsi: ls -l /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[02:20] <EmxBA> i won't help you anymore :D
[02:20] <brett_> ic56,  so-> sudo bash ~/Desktop/diskmounter-latest.txt -b
[02:20] <orbin> m0gsi: it's owned by root
[02:20] <ic56> brett_: yes
[02:20] <orbin> m0gsi: use sudo
[02:20] <m_0_r_0_n> apokryphos, I have got a mga 550 card, but the default driver provided by Ubuntu doesnt support OpenGL. Any idea how to get OpenGL work?
[02:20] <rivethead> olicat : out of curiosity which Vaio were you lookin at aquiring?
[02:20] <janek1212> i have a problem starting dapper after upgrade from breezy. says partition does not exist and drops to busybox
[02:20] <janek1212> anyone can help ?
[02:20] <m0gsi> I've do it now thanks orbin
[02:20] <apokryphos> m_0_r_0_n: no idea I'm afraid
[02:21] <anodesni> QUESTION: In tvtime I only have one channel (after tvtime-scanner) , maybe nvidia drivers???
[02:21] <Ulfalizer> has anyone managed to get breezy running in Parallels (a virtualizer)? the system seems to hang indefinitely at "Ok, booting the kernel."
[02:21] <Frogzoo> !tell janek1212 about recoveringgrub
[02:21] <EmxBA> nobody knows?
[02:21] <kholerabbi> My startup, just after grub, is rather slow (breezy) has dapper got a faster startup?
[02:21] <brett_> ic56, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15653
[02:22] <EmxBA> Margolis IT Solutions is a name of ISP where ubuntu.com and all ubuntu sites are located at
[02:22] <orbin> kholerabbi: yes
[02:22] <EmxBA> in london
[02:22] <olicat> rivethead: http://vaio.sony-europe.com/view/ShowProduct.action?product=VGN-FE21S&site=ite_en_GB&pageType=Overview&category=VN+FE+Series
[02:22] <Ulfalizer> heh, seems others are having the same problem who run ubuntu natively
[02:22] <EmxBA> knew this?
[02:22] <janek1212> thanks but thats not a solution.
[02:22] <orbin> kholerabbi: mine's almost 25% faster
[02:22] <Ulfalizer> though most reports are for dapper
[02:22] <janek1212> grub works fine its kernel that cant find partition
[02:23] <EmxBA> janek1212: what have you done before everything went wrong
[02:23] <ic56> brett_: Mmm, sounds like broken fstab lines don't pertain to Windows partitions.  pastebin me the output from: cat /etc/fstab
[02:23] <rivethead> olicat : ok yeah thats sexy.
[02:23] <Frogzoo> rivethead: my current dapper laptop is a Vaio & my next one will be too
[02:23] <neil> hi I am very new to ubuntu - I have a quick question
[02:23] <kholerabbi> thanks
[02:23] <AlexC> Anyone know of a good FTP client with a good GUI, unlike gFTP
[02:23] <EmxBA>  what?
[02:24] <EmxBA> no
[02:24] <EmxBA> gFTP is good
[02:24] <AlexC> no it's not
[02:24] <rivethead> Frogzoo : do you have any troubles with the Nvidia card?
[02:24] <EmxBA> AlexC: i use ftp in terminal, that works nice :D
[02:24] <AlexC> EmxBA: The lack of a tree-view makes my fingers hurt! double cliking in and out of my folder structure is a pain in the ass
[02:24] <simbad> AlexC You may try kbear - I dont like it, but if you only need another gui.
[02:25] <EmxBA> you should use ftp in terminal
[02:25] <EmxBA> it rocks :D
[02:25] <Frogzoo> rivethead: mine is ati so... why, are the nvidia's problematic?
[02:25] <skaet> hey, is there some reason why nvidia-glx won't install properly? I've tried it several times and I don't get the nvidia logo when X starts, I even got the .run from nvidia.com but I need to do it from a terminal without X
[02:25] <jeico> EmxBA is right :p
[02:25] <ubuntu> is a fluxbox how to for dapper
[02:25] <EmxBA> jeico: thanks
[02:25] <neil> is there any diff between installing from a live-cd of ubuntu and installing from the install cd ? if it is a dumb question I appologise as I am completely new to ubuntu
[02:25] <rigonatti> Hi all!!
[02:25] <EmxBA> ubuntu: nice nick :D
[02:25] <AlexC> EmxBA: no thanks =) I find GUI for ftp much quicker
[02:25] <janek1212> @embxba i just upgraded to dapper from breezy via update tool (or whatever its called)
[02:26] <rivethead> Frogzoo : I dont have any prolems aside from the black screen when trying to switch to a virtual console or shutting down, scoured the forums trying all those fixes already none seem to work.
[02:26] <olicat> Frogzoo on the vaio, does suspend on close work, etc?
[02:26] <brett_> ic56, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15655
[02:26] <AlexC> beacuse I do a lot of navigating in and out of folders - so it;s easier with a tree view
[02:26] <EmxBA> AlexC: no, GUIs are always slow
[02:26] <AlexC> EmxBA: I'm not going to debate which is better
[02:26] <jeico> in case of a front end yes
[02:26] <ubuntu> EmxBA; thanks
[02:26] <EmxBA> AlexC: ok, there is gFTP and.....
[02:26] <EmxBA> k ftp clients
[02:27] <rigonatti> Can anyone help me with the Java Sun install ? I got the rpm package...used allien .. instaled ....but for some reason /usr/java dosent exist !
[02:27] <Psychobudgie> skaet : did you follow the nvidia instructions on http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[02:27] <EmxBA> ubuntu: how did you registered it? it is very wanted nick
[02:27] <AlexC> gFTP sucks as it doesn't have a tree view - which is what I nede
[02:27] <simbad> AlexC try kbear
[02:27] <EmxBA> AlexC: i can't help you from this distance. I use FTP in terminal and i am satisfied
[02:27] <EmxBA> :D
[02:27] <Frogzoo> olicat: suspend on close works for me - haven't got the S1/S2 buttons working but no need for them really - hibernate works from a hotkey
[02:27] <skaet> Psychobudgie:  I tried both the official nvidia help and the guide on the ubuntu wiki
[02:27] <hastesaver> EmxBA, it's not registered. There's someone called ubuntu on this channel at least once a day :)
[02:27] <rigonatti> !java
[02:27] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[02:28] <neil> can anyone point to to the right place to get an answer ?
[02:28] <EmxBA> hastesaver: really
[02:28] <olicat> Frogzoo cool, cheers
[02:28] <skaet> Psychobudgie:  they don't really mention anything that I hadn't already tried
[02:28] <Frogzoo> olicat: np
[02:28] <AlexC> simbad: am doing - EmxBA you use terminal - I use GUI ok
[02:28] <EmxBA> AlexC: np
[02:28] <orbin> neil: only w/ dapper has the livecd been able to install
[02:29] <orbin> neil: previouse versions had separate install and live cds
[02:29] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  did you modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:29] <AlexC> geee, why can't linux dev's make there apps look nice? doesn't take much. oh well
[02:29] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  change nv to nvidia
[02:29] <orbin> neil: dapper combines the two
[02:29] <Bazzi> AlexC: obviously it does ;-)
[02:29] <brett_> ic56, did you see my link?
[02:30] <ic56> brett_: yes. something didn't work right for you.  give me another minute
[02:30] <neil> thanks orbin... so a live-cd install is the same as install cd with this new version
[02:30] <AlexC> Bazzi: but it doesn't does it. it's just the little things like huge fonts, huge icons, un-aligned things - atleast mac and windows dev's get it right
[02:30] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  also do 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' from a terminal
[02:31] <Psychobudgie> should just work
[02:31] <orbin> neil: technically the live-cd and install-cd are now one: a live-cd with install capabilities.
[02:31] <EmxBA> AlexC: do you work on launchpad
[02:31] <brett_> ic56, no probs
[02:31] <skaet> Psychobudgie: I haven't made any changes to xorg.conf yet, I browsed it briefly but didn't edit it. I'll give the nv a try :)
[02:31] <AlexC> EmxBA: what do you mean? no I don't
[02:31] <robin__>  any one have a source for java that i can put in my source list
[02:31] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  that's why it's not working
[02:31] <EmxBA> AlexC: something connected to ubuntu
[02:31] <EmxBA> launchpad etc
[02:31] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  it's still loading the xorg nv driver
[02:31] <AlexC> EmxBA: I see, but why did you ask too?
[02:31] <neil> cool, thanks orbin
[02:31] <Bazzi> AlexC: true that :) KDE4 focuses also on the looks though.
[02:32] <TrioTorus> How can I overwrite the phpldapadmin dependancy on apache version 1? I want to use apache2 only. Look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15651
[02:32] <EmxBA> AlexC: you look smart :D
[02:32] <skaet> Psychobudgie: that's strange because it installe flawlessly with no editing last time =(
[02:32] <winbond> yeah , kde4 is gonna rock
[02:32] <AlexC> Bazzi: so you think KDE4 will haev more Polished applications etc?
[02:32] <ic56> brett_: I see, I introduced a small bug yesterday while fixing something.  I'll have a new version in 5 mins.
[02:32] <Bazzi> hopefully, it is at least incompatible to KDE3 apps so they have to be rewritten anyways, hopefully all get sort of polish
[02:32] <AlexC> EmxBA: hehe thanks - not sure if that was sarcastic or not but hey! If only I had some spare time I would code some nice apps for Linux that get passed Beta
[02:32] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  I have always edited my xorg.conf file, so you must have been lucky ;-)
[02:32] <rigonatti> Can anyone help me with the Java Sun install ? I got the rpm package...used allien .. instaled ....but for some reason /usr/java dosent exist !
[02:33] <EmxBA> winbond: and new GNOME? any plans
[02:33] <EmxBA> AlexC: no, really, you talk a lot, and you have arguments for nice chatting :D
[02:33] <EmxBA> not sarcasm
[02:33] <Psychobudgie> once updated just do a <ctrl><alt><backspace> to restart X
[02:33] <AlexC> EmxBA: thank you =)
[02:33] <EmxBA> AlexC: i don't want to talk a lot because lots of you live in USA
[02:34] <EmxBA> at my place it is 14:34
[02:34] <brett_> ic56, i'm happy to wait
[02:34] <skaet> Psychobudgie: aye, thanks for the tip, I'll be back screaming in a minute.....
[02:34] <winbond> EmxBA:i dont know about gnome , they said they dont care about computing technologies so i dont expect much from them
[02:34] <EmxBA> and in USA 8:34
[02:34] <EmxBA> right?
[02:34] <AlexC> EmxBA: I live in the UK, so 1:34 here
[02:34] <orbin> rigonatti: you mean /usr/bin/java?
[02:34] <AlexC> PM, not AM
[02:34] <EmxBA> AlexC: oh, ok
[02:34] <NET||abuse> i seem to have been drawn into pushing the big red button and tried enabling mindows plugin for compiz,,, how can i turn it off without using gset-compiz? i seem to have buggered the session with that plugin! :)
[02:34] <EmxBA> i live in bosnia
[02:34] <ubuntu> hey
[02:34] <Hso>  question.. if I run ubuntu(Gnome), am I able to install and use KDE software, without installing KDE inself?
[02:34] <AlexC> EmxBA: nice
[02:34] <EmxBA> Hso: you must install KDE lib s
[02:34] <ubuntu> where are apt-sources list for dapper please
[02:34] <EmxBA> *libs
[02:34] <wezzer> guys, is it possible to run enemy territory on AMD64-ubuntu?
[02:35] <Hso> which does what?
[02:35] <hastesaver> !sources
[02:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:35] <Psychobudgie> oh incase anyone doesn't know yet, Google Earth has been released for Linux
[02:35] <richiefrich> Hso  how could u run KDE without installing it
[02:35] <richiefrich> Psychobudgie it has ?
[02:35] <richiefrich> url please
[02:35] <rigonatti> orbin: yes !!!
[02:35] <Psychobudgie> it works well in dapper
[02:35] <EmxBA> hso: you need KDE libraries to install KDE apps
[02:35] <Hso> that's why i'm asking, richiefrich  :P
[02:36] <Psychobudgie> it's at http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[02:36] <richiefrich> Psychobudgie ty
[02:36] <Psychobudgie> runs native and not in a wine wrapper like Picassa
[02:37] <marky> Does anyone know how fix my apt problem. When apt needs to use a command like ldconfig it says that it can't find it and says something about the PATH isn't configured. My path is correctly configure everyware else in linux. Does any one have any clue what could be wrong?
[02:37] <kandinski> thanks to Ryan "Icculus" Gordon
[02:37] <ubuntu> hehe
[02:37] <ubuntu> now i am ubuntu :D
[02:37] <rigonatti> orbin ?
[02:37] <ubuntu> hehe
[02:37] <papa_lic> greez
[02:37] <orbin> rigonatti: oh, i thought you found it
[02:37] <ubuntu> ih
[02:38] <AlexC> gah, kbear crashes when ever I want to transfer files - quite critual that for a FTP program to transfer files and they can't even get that right!. That's it - as soon as I have some free time i'm going to code a nice FTP client!
[02:38] <papa_lic> anyone having problems with usb unmountring itself and solutiotns?
[02:38] <orbin> rigonatti: how'd you install?  by following the wiki?
[02:38] <winbond> how can i add the .com .org .net autocomplete shortcuts to conquerer ,? like in the firefox
[02:38] <richiefrich> Psychobudgie  cool it's on gentoo in portage on my other box to :)
[02:38] <rigonatti> orbin: Im trying to run LimeWire (but needs JAvav 1.4or latter)
[02:39] <Bassetts> how would i got about updating xchat to the latest release?
[02:39] <rigonatti> orbin: then ...I didnt found Sun Java at Synaptics
[02:39] <EmxBA> winbond: i think konqueror doesn't support something like that :D come back to firefox
[02:39] <orbin> ubotu: tell rigonatti about java
[02:39] <skaet> Psychobudgie: thanks heaps, all good now :D
[02:39] <rigonatti> so ....donwloaded from jhava.com the rpm package...and follow the instructions from Sun
[02:39] <skaet> I'll make a note of it for next time I forget :)
[02:40] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  pleasure
[02:40] <rigonatti> but...doesnt work...install scripts works fine...but i think that is in the wrong place
[02:40] <EmxBA> rigonnati: if you want java for firefox than you need jre package
[02:40] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  where do I send the bill ;-)
[02:40] <Bassetts> alien is needed to install .rpm files right?
[02:40] <rigonatti> EmxBA: I know...but i got from Sun java Web Site and the procedures dont work to me
[02:40] <hastesaver> Bassetts, yes. But make sure whatever you're installing isn't already in the repos
[02:40] <skaet> Psychobudgie: are sexual favours accepted?
[02:41] <rigonatti> orbin: the wiki just say that: Sun Java5: Install it from the Applications -> Add/Remove... menu, or install the sun-java5-bin package.
[02:41] <AlexC> EmxBA: do you code?
[02:41] <Bassetts> hastesaver: it is, xchat, but i would like xchat 2.6.4, theres a few added features i need
[02:41] <EmxBA> rigonatti: you should go to any site which requires Java (in firefox) and you will automaticly start downloading
[02:41] <EmxBA> i think
[02:41] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  a freeby it is then
[02:41] <hastesaver> rigonatti, read the link ubotu sent you
[02:41] <Psychobudgie> heh
[02:41] <EmxBA> AlexC: not a lot , but i do
[02:41] <skaet> w00t
[02:41] <orinoco> hi
[02:41] <rigonatti> EmxBA: no...ask for a manual install
[02:42] <rigonatti> hastesaver: the procedures in that link dont work
[02:42] <orbin> rigonatti: did you enable multiverse like the wiki says?
[02:42] <hastesaver> rigonatti, of course they do. What do you mean they don't work?
[02:42] <EmxBA> orinoco: hi,  i have PCMCIA wireless card called orinoco and i can't set it up
[02:42] <EmxBA> i need kismet drivers
[02:42] <EmxBA> can you help me , orinoco :D
[02:42] <rigonatti> hastesaver:   "Sun Java5: Install it from the Applications -> Add/Remove... menu, or install the sun-java5-bin package."
[02:42] <tsk_> /hello
[02:42] <orinoco> i have a problem with my mouse, it is an optical usb one and it decided not to work to weeks ago, when i firstly plug iti in, it works for 5 secons then stops, may it be problem of the touchpad or what?
[02:43] <orbin> rigonatti: right. you that pack is in multiverse...make sure you've enabled it
[02:43] <AlexC> EmxBA: ahh right - I was going to see if you wanted to help in create a group of applications,
[02:43] <EmxBA> orinoco :D
[02:43] <orinoco> EmxBA, im not an orinoco expert XD
[02:43] <hastesaver> rigonatti, yes, did that?
[02:43] <orbin> ubotu: tell rigonatti about multiverse
[02:43] <EmxBA> AlexC: great! just private me
[02:43] <rigonatti> yes!
[02:43] <EmxBA> i can help you
[02:44] <hastesaver> rigonatti, you installed the sun-java5-bin package?
[02:44] <rigonatti> hastesaver:  yes. But for anyreason still not working
[02:44] <Bassetts> how can i get xchat 2.6.4?
[02:44] <EmxBA> AlexC: can i get your mail
[02:45] <AlexC_> EmxBA: yeh sure, I can't PM you for some reason though
[02:45] <orbin> Bassetts: either find a deb package for dapper or breezy (whichever one you're on) or install from source w/ checkinstall
[02:45] <hastesaver> rigonatti, did you read the "Note: Scroll down to "Selecting the default Java version" section to enable the JRE you have installed." line? :)
[02:45] <EmxBA> AlexC: i can private you :-P
[02:45] <AlexC> hum, werid
[02:45] <jimmy89> sry to ask again, but anyone know how to config wep key#2 using networkmanager?
[02:45] <hastesaver> rigonatti, you need to do   sudo update-alternatives --config java , and the same with jar
[02:45] <orbin> Bassetts: maybe check backports too
[02:46] <Bassetts> cheers
[02:46] <EmxBA> AlexC: do you need help to make that group of apps or no
[02:46] <CiberSkull> how do i get the build essencial package?
[02:46] <AlexC> EmxBA: it would be good to yeh
[02:47] <truls> are there any _up_to_date_ resources for people wanting to package/distribute python-software as ubuntu/debian-packages?
[02:47] <ic56> brett_: ok, new version is up
[02:47] <EmxBA> AlexC: then go to private, i don't want to flood the channel
[02:47] <truls> i'm guessing that distutils/setup.py called by debian/rules (with dhhelper or something) is the way to go
[02:48] <rigonatti> hastesaver:  ok...swho me some options
[02:48] <rigonatti> then nothing happens
[02:48] <orinoco> anyone can say something
[02:48] <hastesaver> rigonatti, no, you're supposed to select which one you want, and press enter
[02:49] <AlexC> EmxBA: I am - but you'r not responding =)
[02:49] <EmxBA> no
[02:49] <rigonatti> hastesaver: its that the right option:      3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/javaa
[02:49] <brett_> ic56, cool. same link?
[02:49] <EmxBA> which IRC app are you using
[02:49] <ic56> brett_: yes
[02:49] <AlexC> EmxBA: gnome-xchat
[02:50] <florian> hi, is there a free teamspeak client?
[02:50] <orbin> truls: maybe ask the MOTUs?
[02:50] <orbin> truls: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:50] <hastesaver> rigonatti, yes. It's the only one that says "sun", right?
[02:50] <richiefrich> florian yes
[02:50] <rigonatti> florian: Try TeamSpeka web site
[02:50] <rigonatti> hastesaver: yes
[02:50] <h3h_timo> hey im checking out laptops and i found one, but i  a one day deal!! should i wait or jump on this?? check it out: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16834115246
[02:50] <EmxBA> AlexC: huh, i use gaim,i already privated you, just close the window in which you have privated me and private me again
[02:50] <EmxBA> or i should private you
[02:50] <truls> orbin: i can try
[02:50] <truls> orbin: thanks
[02:51] <rigonatti> hastesaver:  return this:      Using `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java' to provide `java'.
[02:51] <hastesaver> rigonatti, then that's the right one.
[02:51] <richiefrich> florian www.goteamspeak.com
[02:51] <hastesaver> rigonatti, right. And do the same thing for "jre" instead of "java"
[02:51] <rigonatti> so?
[02:51] <truls> orbin: suspecting overkill though
[02:51] <florian> richiefrich: thanx, but i thought of an open source client
[02:51] <rigonatti> hastesaver: Noi alternativer for jre
[02:51] <richiefrich> florian  no it's not
[02:51] <richiefrich> :(
[02:51] <florian> richiefrich: is there an alterantive?
[02:52] <rigonatti> hastesaver: No alternatives for jre.
[02:52] <rigonatti> florian: You can install a Plugin to GAIM to use TEAMSPEAK
[02:52] <prower> Oddly enough, even if you specify java 1.5 as the default version, if you install Eclipse from the repository then it uses GCJ anyway :> Still haven't figured out how to change that
[02:52] <CrippsFX> what about freejava? FC5 uses that ...
[02:52] <hastesaver> rigonatti, sorry, that should be 'jar', not 'jre'. Sorry about that :0
[02:52] <CrippsFX> lol. ahhh ...
[02:52] <richiefrich> florian  there is but not like TS..  theres gizom
[02:53] <richiefrich> gizom/gizmo
[02:53] <rigonatti> hastesaver:
[02:53] <rigonatti>       1        /usr/bin/fastjar
[02:53] <rigonatti> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/jar
[02:53] <mjr> prower, likely that the eclipse in the repos is at least partially natively compiled using gcj. Haven't checked, tho.
[02:53] <CrippsFX> hastesaver, java -jar <file>.jar
[02:53] <orinoco> i have a problem with my mouse, it is an optical usb one and it decided not to work to weeks ago, when i firstly plug iti in, it works for 5 secons then stops, may it be problem of the touchpad or what? and moreover, the buttons work while the moving part (red light) although it is functioning it does not move!
[02:53] <ome_> Is there a program to burn isos  that works in ubuntu?
[02:53] <CrippsFX> hastesaver, you could create an alias for it.
[02:53] <rigonatti> florian: You can install a Plugin to GAIM to use TEAMSPEAK
[02:53] <prower> mjr: Most likely, yeah...it's a bit inconvenient, have to go download it manually just to use Sun's java as far as I can tell
[02:54] <florian> rigonatti: yeah, i am goolging for it, but haven't found one so far
[02:54] <brett_> ic56, your a champ. it worked!!
[02:54] <orinoco> ome_, k3b
[02:54] <ome_> ok thanks
[02:54] <rigonatti> florian: hold on
[02:54] <ic56> brett_: good to know!  Thanks!
[02:54] <hastesaver> rigonatti, that's strange. Don't you have a third one that says "sun"?
[02:54] <CrippsFX>  /me is using Sun's java ... a la "universe" ... works beautifully for me.
[02:55] <cristos> hello
[02:55] <rigonatti> florina: try this http://freshmeat.net/projects/libtbb/?branch_id=63310&release_id=220603
[02:55] <rigonatti> hastesaver: no... =(
[02:55] <brett_> ic56, that made my day. now all i need is my sound back..
[02:55] <QMario> After I upgraded to Dapper from Breezy for some odd reason my .cpp files and most other files are not associated with their correct images. My .cpp files don't have this image anymore: http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gnomemimetextxcsrc6en.jpg
[02:56] <rigonatti> florian: try this http://freshmeat.net/projects/libtbb/?branch_id=63310&release_id=220603
[02:56] <ic56> brett_: you're welcome.  Good luck with the sound.
[02:56] <florian> thanx
[02:56] <brett_> ic56, cheers
[02:56] <cristos> Im programming the serial port using C++, but I cant access it. I have to run minicom, then kill it (kill -9), and only then have I access to dev/ttyS0 , Whats wrong ?
[02:56] <ic56> brett_: BTW, can you check sth for me?  What's in your /tmp
[02:56] <brett_> sth?
[02:56] <brett_> ic56, sth
[02:56] <brett_> ?
[02:56] <ic56> brett_: sth = something
[02:56] <brett_> ic56,  lol
[02:57] <kane77> what is the command to change resolution?
[02:57] <orbin> cristos: isn't that more of a generic c++ problem thatn an ubuntu one?
[02:57] <Steelix> I'm a Linux newbie, and I'm having issues getting Ubuntu to work with LAN on my Gateway laptop.
[02:57] <brett_> ic56,  theres a fair bit in there.. are you looking for anything in particular?
[02:57] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: everything worked out fine (after some trouble) with nvidia
[02:57] <cristos> orbin: dunno
[02:57] <Steelix> As far as I can tell, it doesn't see the ethernet. I'm guessing I need drivers.
[02:57] <Steelix> What should I do?
[02:57] <ic56> brett_: easier if you just pastebin for me
[02:58] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: great
[02:58] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: and my drives are correctly mounted too... thanks!
[02:58] <brett_> screenshot my /tmp folder?
[02:58] <rigonatti> orbin:  ?
[02:58] <ubuntunewbie> good luck all!
[02:58] <ic56> brett_: I'm looking to confirm a reported bug with the Ubuntu installer.  No screenshot!  Just: ls -la /tmp
[02:58] <hastesaver> rigonatti, I don't know, that's strange. Myabe you can try installing the sun-java5-bin package again, or try installing sun-java5-jdk (although you shouldn't need it...)
[02:59] <Steelix> Anyone?
[02:59] <orbin> rigonatti: i just used easyubuntu myself
[02:59] <brett_> ic56, i dont understand. can you just give me a command, and i'll give you the results?
[02:59] <rigonatti> orbin: what is a easyubuntu ?
[02:59] <Matthewv> !easyubuntu
[02:59] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:59] <ic56> brett_: Yes.  The command, again, is: ls -la /tmp
[03:00] <brett_> ic56, ok, just a sec
[03:00] <newbieboyD> hello
[03:00] <Frogzoo> woot!! onboard modem works
[03:00] <newbieboyD> Hey guys i need help
[03:00] <Steelix> Would the packet manager help? Would it have drivers for my ethernet?
[03:00] <rigonatti> orbin: I found some:
[03:01] <newbieboyD> got some softwares but could not install em all
[03:01] <rigonatti> in Synaptics: Sun-java5bin  sun-java5-demo, sun-java5-jre:  Im reinstall and installing all of them
[03:01] <QMario> Is there a reason that firefox is a necessary package for Ubuntu?
[03:01] <newbieboyD> xmms-1.2.10.tar.gz
[03:01] <brett_> ic56, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15657
[03:01] <Steelix> :(
[03:02] <cherwin> newbieboyD: why do you want to install xmms from source
[03:02] <cherwin> newbieboyD: use apt-get
[03:02] <neutrinomass> QMario: It isn't. You mean why it breaks ubuntu-desktop ?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> newbieboyD: xmms is in the repos
[03:02] <newbieboyD> cherwin. I couldnt get any other
[03:02] <gnomefreak> newbieboyD: sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:02] <QMario> Okay, yes. Why does it break ubuntu-desktop?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> !info xmms dapper
[03:02] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), Packaged size: 1029 kB, Installed size: 7256 kB
[03:03] <newbieboyD> gnome freak and cherwinam now in my root terminal
[03:03] <ic56> brett_: yeah...  Did anyone advise you to create: /tmp/disks-conf-sda1 or was it there all along?  When did you intall?
[03:03] <florian> rigonatti: i compiled the package, how can i use it now? can't find anything
[03:03] <cherwin> newbieboyD: okay just do a "apt-get install xmms"
[03:03] <gnomefreak> newbieboyD: than apt-get install xmms
[03:04] <newbieboyD> cherwin and gnome freak ok
[03:04] <brett_> ic56, i have played with it a lot, but i never created that ^. I installed about 2 days ago (first time linux)
[03:04] <rigonatti> florian: do you have gaim installed ?
[03:04] <florian> rigonatti: sure
[03:04] <neutrinomass> QMario: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage to make installing ubuntu easy. For example, you have kubuntu and want to get ubuntu? sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop, and you get everything that comes with ubuntu. AFAIK you can break it without any side effects
[03:04] <NET||abuse> hmm, when you're not using a window, compiz is graying out those windows under the currently active one.... is there a way to stop this?
[03:04] <cr3> anyone managed to get wireless working with wpa?
[03:04] <ic56> brett_: ok thanks!  ttyl!
[03:05] <turlututu> hi, i tried several times to change my usplash by following this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto  but it doesn't work for me, do you know if my special resolution (1280/800) may be the cause ?
[03:05] <QMario> Neutrinomass, what about Dapper? Has it caused it problems for you when associating files with icons.
[03:05] <newbieboyD> cherwin and gnomefreak : this in what i gotReading package lists... Done
[03:05] <newbieboyD> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:05] <newbieboyD> E: Couldn't find package xmms-1.2.10.tar.gz
[03:05] <cherwin> newbieboyD: and if you want to install a package and don't know the name than do "apt-cache search <package>"
[03:05] <Steelix> Where would I find ethernet drivers for an ethernet port on my Gateway laptop for Ubuntu, either through internet that can be taken from my PC to Linux laptop by CD, or on the install disc. Need ethernet for internet on Ubuntu.
[03:05] <rdz> !ati
[03:05] <ubotu> somebody said ati was http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[03:05] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:05] <cherwin> what do you have in your sources list newbieboyD?
[03:06] <newbieboyD> ok
[03:06] <rigonatti> florian: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=543118
[03:06] <Steelix> Guys, need help :(
[03:06] <newbieboyD> cherwin : xmms-1.2.10
[03:06] <brazil_word_cup> Steelix, ?
[03:07] <Steelix> Where would I find ethernet drivers for an ethernet port on my Gateway laptop for Ubuntu, either through internet that can be taken from my PC to Linux laptop by CD, or on the install disc. Need ethernet for internet on Ubuntu.
[03:07] <Steelix> Doesn't seem to acknowledge I even have an ethernet port.
[03:07] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:07] <gareth> I want to copy a file from my desktop to another directory, but I don't have write permission. I don't know my root password - I am certain I was nit asked for one during the install. HELP.....
[03:07] <cherwin> Steelix: don't flood the channel with your question we've seen it already, what type of card do you own?
[03:07] <Frogzoo> Steelix: lsmod & then google the nic's output + 'linux'
[03:08] <POVaddct> newbieboyD: sources list is /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:08] <Steelix> Uhh, not sure. It's a part of a Gateway laptop
[03:08] <Steelix> I've heard ubuntu doesn't like laptops.
[03:08] <cherwin> newbieboyD: that was not what I meant, thanks POVaddct
[03:08] <Frogzoo> Steelix: sry, lspci & then google the nic's output + 'linux'
[03:08] <brett_> ic56,  yeah thanks to you too, helped heaps
[03:08] <ic56> brett_: yw!
[03:08] <Frogzoo> Steelix: not true - even my modem works !
[03:08] <Steelix> lspci?
[03:09] <newbieboyD> cherwin n gnome freak u  guys are so sweet
[03:09] <cherwin> Steelix: you have to know what type of network card you own to install the driver. But maybe it's already installed. what does ifconfig -a say?
[03:09] <Steelix> One sec.
[03:09] <newbieboyD> cherwin : i just got it done thanks
[03:09] <cherwin> Steelix: lspci works too ;)
[03:09] <cherwin> newbieboyD: you're welcome
[03:10] <neutrinomass> Out of curiosity, do ISA devices show up in lspci as well ?
[03:10] <Steelix> Okay, ifconfig has lo and then some stuff, and sit0 and then some stuff.
[03:10] <michael117> How can I check and manage the current services running in Ubuntu?
[03:10] <Steelix> Google everything under lspci?
[03:10] <cherwin> neutrinomass: good one? i don't know try it out
[03:11] <kholerabbi> Is there any applications that will let me run a .iso file as a cd?
[03:11] <neutrinomass> cherwin: I have no ISA devices :P I have an ISA slot though.... I was wondering this morning when I saw a bug report on some ISA card ...
[03:11] <cherwin> Steelix: pastebin the output of lspci please
[03:11] <michael117> kholerabbi: You can mount an ISO
[03:11] <neutrinomass> kholerabbi: I think it can be done with file-roller.
[03:11] <vanden> gareth: use sudo mv in a terminal
[03:12] <kholerabbi> michael117: how?
[03:12] <Steelix> I can't copy it from the laptop to this PC, the laptop has no access to net, since no ethernet. There's a lot to paste.
[03:12] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:12] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:12] <kholerabbi> neutrinomass: File Roller??
[03:12] <neutrinomass> kholerabbi: Tried clicking on it ? :)
[03:12] <neutrinomass> kholerabbi: file-roller , commonly known as Archive Manager ... the unzipping utility that comes with Gnome
[03:12] <kholerabbi> Hey I have clicked on it :).. It opens in archive manager.. But I want to be able to use it AS an iso
[03:12] <cherwin> Steelix: don't you own a memory stick?
[03:13] <neutrinomass> kholerabbi: Burn it? Mount it ?
[03:13] <kholerabbi> Hmm no burner?
[03:13] <Steelix> Heh, iPod, yeah. Sorry, completely slipped my mind.
[03:13] <Steelix> One sec.
[03:13] <Steelix> ;)
[03:13] <bensode> Morning folkes
[03:13] <Sp4rKy_> hi
[03:13] <kholerabbi> Thanks peoples :)
[03:13] <Steelix> Although, wouldn't it be NTFS partitioned?
[03:13] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:13] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:13] <Sp4rKy_> please how could i get the list of kernel loaded module ?
[03:13] <neutrinomass> kholerabbi: Sorry, I don't understand what you want to do with it ... :-/
[03:13] <michael117> How can I check and manage the current services running in Ubuntu?
[03:13] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:13] <neutrinomass> Sp4rKy_: lsmod
[03:13] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:13] <mjr> justice, don't flood
[03:13] <cherwin> Steelix: no ipods are fat32
[03:14] <kholerabbi> It's allright I think I'll just mount it.. thanks !!
[03:14] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:14] <neutrinomass> !ops
[03:14] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:14] <Sp4rKy_> neutrinomass, not exactly :p in fact iwant to disable a module loading without recompiling
[03:14] <bensode> Have a simple mount question.  When I set up mounts ot the desktop through places, where do they actually mount?  I checked /mnt and also ran mount but they don't display the mount path
[03:14] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:14] <neutrinomass> Sp4rKy_: Edit /etc/modules.d/blacklist
[03:14] <Hobbsee> justice: dont repeat
[03:14] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: Thanks :)
[03:14] <Sp4rKy_> neutrinomass, thx
[03:15] <cherwin> bensode: /media i guess
[03:15] <gareth> Vanden - please be move specific, I'm a command line newbie.....
[03:15] <bensode> cherwin: Nope just see cdrom symlink there
[03:16] <cherwin> bensode: open the media on the desktop and do a page up
[03:16] <cf2> Anyone round who can go "nslookup gb.archive.ubuntu.com" for me ? I get  85.133.25.7,  85.133.25.8, but the former doesn't have ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz (or anything much)
[03:16] <cherwin> bensode: then you'll see where it is mounted
[03:16] <YogSothoth> Hi
[03:17] <bensode> cherwin: yeah it just shows "Windows Network: (servername) as the parent can't go any higher
[03:17] <YogSothoth> I use Firefox with Totem Mozilla Plugin and I want to play an embedded .wvx file which is video/x-ms-wvx. But this extension is not associated to the plugin. How can I associate it to the plugin?
[03:17] <bensode> cherwin: looks like it's just browsing and not actually mounting ... hmmm
[03:18] <cherwin> bensode: ooh you can mount a smb share but you can also just browse it
[03:18] <cherwin> bensode: and that is what you are doing at the moment
[03:18] <YogSothoth> Notice that .wvx files are just playlists for .wmv files
[03:18] <rb338> bensode: type mount con console and It will tell you about all that is mounted, yo can see Fstab to look at mounts at boot
[03:18] <JdGordon> help... im getting "sudo: timestamp too far in the future:" how do i fix it?
[03:19] <YogSothoth> and .wmv files are supported by Totem Mozilla Plugin
[03:19] <bensode> rb338: heh ok.  I'll just make a couple old fashioned mount scripts then.  Never had luck "browsing" cifs shares with previous linux distros always had to hard mount them
[03:19] <ic56> !fixmbr
[03:20] <bensode> Good to see that Ubuntu has so much working out of the box =)  Glad I switched!
[03:20] <newbieboyD> hi
[03:20] <rb338> in ubuntu i only had to mount my secondary hd, but everything comes ok out of the box, only a little tweaking of fstab or simlinks
[03:20] <NET||abuse> arrg, cannot play mpeg totem doesn't have decoder? what should i do here? where do i get the decoders?
[03:20] <ic56> !justask
[03:20] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[03:20] <NET||abuse> it's a pretty normal mpeg file, i just play it on mediaplayer all the time
[03:21] <vanden> gareth: do you know how to move a file at the command line?
[03:21] <Bassetts> anyone know how to send files to a virtual machine?
[03:21] <bensode> Bassetts: Using Vmware?
[03:21] <gareth> vanden: no!
[03:21] <Bassetts> bensode: yes, server
[03:22] <vanden> gareth: open a terminal. type man mv
[03:22] <Frogzoo> # must match the names in /proc/modules with the underscores etc., includes slamr too
[03:22] <Frogzoo> unloadllist="snd_intel8x0m snd_via82xx_modem snd_atiixp_modem slamr"
[03:22] <cherwin> Bassetts: create a share on your virtual machine
[03:22] <bensode> Bassetts: in the virtual machine, if it is windows, you can browse \\.host
[03:22] <vanden> gareth: do you know how to get a terminal?
[03:22] <bensode> Bassetts: that is a link to your host share
[03:22] <cf2> Could someone please go "nslookup gb.archive.ubuntu.com" for me ? I get  85.133.25.7,  85.133.25.8, but the former doesn't have ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz (or anything much) so that Synaptic/Updater barf
[03:22] <Frogzoo> oops -soz
[03:22] <Bassetts> cheers bensode
[03:23] <bensode> Bassetts: Yeah I just started playing with vmware this week.  Pretty handy
[03:23] <Tomze> so is qmeu ;)
[03:23] <cherwin> bensode: on windows or on linux?
[03:23] <gareth> Vanden: yes - I'm reading the results of man mv at the moment. I just don't know the format of the command.
[03:23] <POVaddct> Tomze: and qemu is free :)
[03:23] <Frogzoo> Tomze: kqemu also
[03:23] <Bassetts> it is bensode =) lets me run photoshop =) im trying out vista too
[03:23] <bensode> cherwin: linux host running XP in vmware as guest
[03:24] <bensode> Bassetts: I use it for visio and domain management wihtout having to remote desktop to manage the Windows domain
[03:24] <Bassetts> bensode: \\.host does not work
[03:24] <vanden> gareth: OK, ask if stuck. Meanwhile, sudo is a command that lets you run commands as though you were another user. sudo mv (without a user specified) will run the mv as though you were root.
[03:24] <cherwin> Bassetts: just create a share on your guest
[03:24] <Tomze> Frogzoo: kqemu ? they gpl'ed it now ?
[03:24] <bensode> Bassetts: did you install the vmware tools on the guest OS?
[03:24] <Frogzoo> Tomze: nope - but it is faster
[03:24] <Bassetts> yes bensode
[03:24] <bensode> Bassetts: Yes or you could create a share on the host too
[03:25] <gareth> Vanden: will sudo ask for the root password? That's the big problem
[03:25] <vanden> gareth: ubuntu uses sudo rather than root accounts by default. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:25] <Bassetts> how do i create a share bensode?
[03:25] <vanden> gareth: yes, but your user password, not a root account pswd
[03:26] <bensode> Bassetts: I beleive it's under System -> Administration -> Shares
[03:26] <bensode> Bassetts: I'm still a little new with Ubuntu myself ;)
[03:26] <Bassetts> Shared Folders =) knew it was somewhere lol
[03:26] <cherwin> Bassetts: do you have me on your ignore list or what?
[03:26] <Bassetts> hate when you remember seeing it but have no god damn idea where
[03:26] <Bassetts> cherwin, no why?
[03:26] <bensode> Bassetts: the browse to \\.hosts should work if you have vmware tools installed on the guest.  It's jus a little slow to initialize, at least for me
[03:27] <sparkleytone> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host <--- could this happen if there are too many open file descriptors?
[03:27] <cherwin> Bassetts: because you can just create a share on your windows guest and access it from your linux host
[03:27] <Bassetts> bensode: vista says it cannot find it
[03:27] <chapium> is there any gui for configuring fax at the moment?
[03:27] <vanden> gareth: typed too fast. No, sudo doesn't ask for a root account password. It wants the password of the account that runs sudo. Details I don't recall determine which accoutns can sudo with rootlike power. But the primary user account can, by default.
[03:27] <bensode> Bassetts: Oh Vista is "Experimental" still under VMware Workstation 5.5 I thought?
[03:27] <Bassetts> bensode, yes it is
[03:28] <bensode> Bassetts: That might be half the problem there ;)  Cherwin's solution might be better
[03:28] <Bassetts> ok
[03:28] <vanden> hey all. Recent upgrade to dapper made my laptop's synaptic touchpad flaky. Lots of forum posts last I looked but no obvious solution. I'm not too experienced in Linux. Pointers?
[03:29] <gareth> vanden: the file is in home/gareth/temp stuff - does sudo mv /home/gareth/temp stuff -t /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins look reasonable?
[03:29] <Bassetts> cherwin, vista asks for users allowed to access the share, what should i add?
[03:29] <bensode> Bassetts: I tried vista a while back and a lot of it was still not functional.  Basicly just got a fancy desktop and IE to work, nothing else
[03:29] <vanden> gather: wait a sec
[03:29] <cherwin> just add a user that has rights on the share
[03:29] <_Mr_Denix_> hey all
[03:29] <bensode> Ugh now I just need to find out where to turn off the join/part/quit spam in XChat
[03:29] <_Mr_Denix_> !seen neutrinomass
[03:29] <ubotu> neutrinomass is currently on #ubuntu-offtopic (29m 39s) #ubuntu (29m 39s)
[03:29] <vanden> gareth: there is a space in the file name?
[03:29] <_Mr_Denix_> hello neutrinomass :)
[03:29] <Bassetts> bensode: its pretty functional now
[03:29] <_Mr_Denix_> !seen thoreauputic
[03:30] <ubotu> thoreauputic <n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic> was last seen on IRC in channel #kubuntu, 1d 15h 18m 24s ago, saying: ':)'.
[03:30] <Bassetts> its in public beta so should be ok
[03:30] <vanden> gareth: if so, don't do that :-)
[03:30] <_Mr_Denix_> !seen gavagai
[03:30] <ubotu> gavagai is currently on #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu
[03:30] <_Mr_Denix_> hello gavagai :)
[03:30] <apokryphos> _Mr_Denix_: stop
[03:30] <_Mr_Denix_> lol
[03:30] <Guard] [an> hi, how can i install shockwave please ?
[03:30] <gareth> vanden: yes there is. I'll rename it without the space. Do you think the command looks ok then?
[03:30] <cherwin> Bassetts: so to be safe, just add the user that is creating the user to access the file. And then in linux access the share with smb://<ip-address>
[03:30] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[03:30] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[03:31] <_Mr_Denix_> just checkin don't need to be so agravated
[03:31] <Bassetts> =O confused
[03:31] <vanden> gareth: looks good to me, but I'm no hacker :-) (Save a copy first just to be sure.)
[03:31] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: I'll be with you in a moment :) (on the phone )
[03:31] <bensode> Can't seem to find where to turn off join/part/quit spam to the channel in Xchat menus ...
[03:31] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass sure
[03:31] <vanden> gareth: did it work out?
[03:32] <apokryphos> bensode: time to read the documentation :)
[03:32] <cf2> Do Ubuntu infrastructure bugs (specifically DNS) go into Malone with everything else ?
[03:32] <bensode> apokryphos: Ha ha
[03:32] <cherwin> Bassetts: yeah i know, i've typed something wrong, anyway, just create the share and add a random user. Be sure that the user has access to the file that you are going to share. And afterwards connect to the share in Linux with smb://<ip address>
[03:32] <cherwin> Bassetts: comprende?
[03:32] <Frogzoo> _Mr_Denix_: if you pm the bot, no one will mind if you fiddle
[03:32] <ninian> Are newbie questions tolerable here ?
[03:32] <Frogzoo> ninian: all except that one ;)
[03:33] <_Mr_Denix_> frogzoo i tried to kick myself. i might be rookie on linux but not that stupid to pm a boot
[03:33] <cherwin> ninian: try it out, and i have to go with Frogzoo
[03:33] <mike_> how do i install the ati linux driver?
[03:33] <Bassetts> cherwin: so in vista, goto my documents, click share, add a user (the user has to be on the vista pc it says), then in ubuntu do smb://share ip
[03:33] <cherwin> ninian: please refrain from asking if you may ask a question
[03:33] <apokryphos> mike_: check the FAQ
[03:33] <Bassetts> cherwin: how do i find vistas ip?
[03:33] <ninian> I know how to chmod etc, but I have no clue how to read the ownership and permissions of a file :-)
[03:33] <Bassetts> i uses nat networking
[03:34] <Frogzoo> ninian: ls -l
[03:34] <gareth> vanden: no - is it case sensitive?
[03:34] <cherwin> Bassetts: ipconfig? or network settings and then click the network adapter, i don't use Vista so just try it out :^)
[03:34] <vanden> gareth: I believe it is
[03:34] <brett_> can anyone lend me a hand with my sound? I've stuffed it up somehow
[03:34] <ninian> I thought there would be a command for a single file maybe ... but thanks.
[03:34] <vanden> gareth: didn't work how?
[03:35] <cherwin> ninian: ls -l <file>
[03:35] <vanden> ninian: ls -la the_file_name
[03:35] <Bassetts> cherwin: am i missing something here?
[03:35] <ninian> thx !
[03:35] <cherwin> Bassetts: where?
[03:36] <Bassetts> cherwin: i have shared my documents, with my vista user in the allowed users, gone to smb://ip of vista
[03:36] <Bassetts> i get nothing
[03:36] <buzzed> hmm i have a pdf the closes when i open it...
[03:36] <Bassetts> oo wait
[03:36] <cherwin> Bassetts: turn the firewall off in your Vista guest
[03:37] <gareth> vanden: looks like it's a case senstive issue. It originally said no such directoy on the input directory, but I've corrected the case, and now  it says no such destination - so I'm going to check the case for that
[03:37] <vanden> gareth: do you know about tab completion?
[03:38] <vanden> gareth: can save typing and *mistyping*. enter a letter or two of the path on the cmd line and hit tab.
[03:38] <nf4> i forgot what i typed in terminal to manualy change the respitorys
[03:39] <vanden> gareth: if nothing happens the first tab hit, do it again
[03:39] <Bassetts> cherwin, in ubuntu i put in the vista username, and it has no pass, but it wont let me in
[03:39] <rigonatti> does anyone a good SFTP SSL tools in Ubuntu ??
[03:39] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Shhot :)
[03:40] <cherwin> because you cannot have a passwordless login
[03:40] <Bassetts> cherwin, ok
[03:40] <itai> help
[03:40] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass: i need to install tar.gz that synaptic won't find for me. also tried adding extra repositories didn't worl
[03:40] <_Mr_Denix_> work*
[03:40] <on2see> Hi, I just installed Hoary Hedgehog from a cd, and I realized Dapper Drake is out. Is it possible to auto-update to it, without downloading a cd image
[03:41] <itai> can anyone help me with grub restoring?
[03:41] <Bassetts> cherwin, even with pass no luck
[03:41] <gareth> vanden: I've corrected the spelling and case, and it's worked. Many thanks for your help.
[03:41] <schloob> on2see: add the repositories to sources.list
[03:41] <on2see> how do I do that
[03:41] <vanden> gareth: NP :-)
 hey all. Recent upgrade to dapper made my laptop's synaptic touchpad flaky. Lots of forum posts last I looked but no obvious solution. I'm not too experienced in Linux. Pointers?
[03:41] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: 1. What's the package name? Are you sure it's not in the repos? 2. Where did you get the .tar.gz, can you provide a link ?
[03:42] <^^angusta> Trying to setup a scsi array, drives installed, and scsi adapter configured, but what do I do to add them to ubuntu?
[03:42] <Guard] [an> hi, how can i install shockwave please ? is there shockwave for linux ???
[03:42] <itai> anyone knows anything about restoring grub?
[03:42] <^^angusta> Guard] [an, go to macromedia.com, look for download link
[03:42] <_Mr_Denix_> fake-1.1.9.tar.gz       http://www.vergenet.net/linux/fake/download/1.1.9/      it's not in repos
[03:42] <neutrinomass> !flash
[03:42] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:42] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass   fake-1.1.9.tar.gz       http://www.vergenet.net/linux/fake/download/1.1.9/      it's not in repos
[03:42] <vanden> !touchpad
[03:42] <ubotu> hmm... touchpad is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[03:42] <^^angusta> !scsi
[03:42] <ubotu> ^^angusta: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:43] <gnube> itai, You can install it with apt-get install grub
[03:43] <newbieboyD> cherwin: thanks am playing all my mp3 now bye see ya
[03:43] <itai> thanks but
[03:43] <cherwin> newbieboyD: np
[03:43] <itai> i installed vista and lost my grub
[03:43] <rigonatti> does anyone a good SFTP SSL tools in Ubuntu ??
[03:43] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: It is :) It's in universe.
[03:43] <itai> 'so i cant log in..
[03:43] <cherwin> Bassetts: that's odd, try to connect with smb://ip address/c$
[03:43] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell _Mr_Denix_ about universe
[03:44] <cherwin> Bassetts: and then use Administrator as user and supply a password
[03:44] <reaper> hey
[03:44] <^^angusta> itai, you will need a linux boot disk
[03:44] <Vaske_Car> how to install Sendmail?
[03:44] <^^angusta> try booting with ubuntu live cd
[03:44] <itai> i booted with knoppix
[03:44] <^^angusta> ok, go to prompt and run grub
[03:44] <jadaz87> also how do i get ttyX up to 1024x768?
[03:44] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass : lol i tried to search for it (ctrl + F) and didn't found it ... okay thanks for the ubotu stuff on prv
[03:44] <reaper> how do i download the latest nvidia drivers?
[03:45] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Enable universe, "reload" through synaptic and install fake ....
[03:45] <itai> supposedly "root(hd0,1)" but it sais "selected disk does not exist"
[03:45] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass : thank you :)
[03:45] <Bassetts> cherwin: vista has no domain, is that why?
[03:46] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: If the repos aren't enabled it doesn't show up. You can use http://packages.ubuntu.com to search for it or /msg ubotu with "info fake" (it might need a leading ! )
[03:46] <gnube> itai, What happens is when you install windows it writes over your Master Boot Record
[03:46] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: You're welcome :)
[03:46] <_Mr_Denix_> :)
[03:46] <^^angusta> can anyone help me setup scsi disks in ubuntu, device manager shows one unknown disk
[03:46] <gnube> So if you want to dual boot it is best to install linux _after_ you install windows.
[03:46] <^^angusta> but can't do anything with it
[03:46] <itai> too late...
[03:46] <Noahj> jadaz87, set vga=0x318 after the kernel line in your menu.lst
[03:47] <vanden> The page <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo> seems to be about getting scrolling to work. But my touchpad is afflicted with jerky pointer syndrom and arbitrary clinking all over the place. Anyone know how I can fix?
[03:47] <rigonatti> does anyone know a good SFTP SSh tools in Ubuntu ??
[03:47] <cherwin> Bassetts: as i stated before, i don't use vista my friend so it's way above my head. Try it the other way around then and create a samba share on you linux host. Maybe that'll work.
[03:47] <jadaz87> Noahj: where is that menu.1st?
[03:47] <gnube> itai, So if you want to dual boot it is best to install linux _after_ you install windows.
[03:47] <winbond> does anyone use the official bittorrent client? , by bram cohen
[03:47] <Noahj> jadaz87, /boot/grub
[03:48] <jadaz87> Noahj: thanks
[03:48] <itai> gnube , you mean i need to reinstall linux now?
[03:48] <thaytan> so...
[03:48] <Beta_M> itai:  no, you can do it without reinstal
[03:48] <Bassetts> cherwin: what ip should i use for my ubuntu share then? internal ip?
[03:48] <snoops> gnube he can use the live cd, chroot into his ubuntu install, reinstall grub
[03:49] <snoops> and be done with it
[03:49] <itai> i though so...
[03:49] <brosio> 15:48:39.430548 IP 192.168.1.4.36831 > 224.0.0.251.5353:  60595 PTR? 132.224.106.192.in-addr.arpa. (46)
[03:49] <brosio> 15:48:39.929639 IP 192.168.1.4.36831 > 224.0.0.251.5353:  60595 PTR? 132.224.106.192.in-addr.arpa. (46)
[03:49] <thaytan> I have an em64t machine that completely fails to boot the installer, because it can't start the X server
[03:49] <Beta_M> !dualboot
[03:49] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:49] <brosio> where are going this packets ?
[03:49] <gnube> itai, I am not sure that you need to re-install linux, just that your master boot record has been over-written.
[03:49] <Iam8up|lpy> what's the window manager with the cubed desktop...it begins with comp...runs on xgl...
[03:49] <thaytan> is my only option to install via the alternate CD?
[03:49] <Iam8up|lpy> the koronaa live cd has it installed...
[03:49] <cherwin> Bassetts: connect from within Vista with the ip that's on your eth0 i guess
[03:49] <vanden> ciao
[03:50] <Bassetts> ok cherwin
[03:50] <gnube> itai, Apparently snoops has a recommendation which sounds doable, that is what I would do.
[03:50] <itai> snoops, whats the command for reinstalling grub?
[03:51] <snoops> I'll get the guide.. one minute
[03:51] <jadaz87> Noahj: should it be before or after the defoption=quiet splash?
[03:51] <nikusan> itai, search wiki.ubuntu.com for "restore grub"
[03:52] <Noahj> jadaz87: After I think... you might have to set video=vesafb after that
[03:52] <jadaz87> Noahj: what does that option do? i have a laptop screen btw
[03:52] <snowblink> hi - how do I set the keyboard/gnome terminal to not send ] ^5 when I press page down?
[03:53] <gnube> itai, snoops says; use the live cd, chroot into his ubuntu install, reinstall grub
[03:53] <itai> nikusan , i did , it sais " root (hd0,1) " but linux sais selected disk does not exist
[03:53] <gnube> itai, Did you overwrite your entire disk?
[03:53] <Beta_M> itai:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:53] <itai> did not
[03:53] <Penguin_> I keep getting this erorr when ever I try to make a program I get this error: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[03:53] <snoops> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub#head-bf0ad184b84304b51996a11111a1901667529a80
[03:53] <snoops> oh damnit Beta_M
[03:53] <Noahj> jadaz87: are you using 2.6?
[03:53] <snoops> ;)
[03:53] <jadaz87> Noahj: yes
[03:54] <snowblink> Penguin_, what are you trying to make?
[03:54] <reaper> Hey,
[03:54] <Beta_M> snoops:  sorry, you'll get the good karma the next time
[03:54] <Beta_M> q;-)
[03:54] <reaper> my monitor only goes upto 1280x1024 @ 72Hz, but ubuntu is making it display as 75Hz,
[03:54] <gnube> Karma? Wheres the karma?! I want some.
[03:54] <reaper> how do i force it to go to 72?
[03:54] <Penguin_> a texure converter until
[03:54] <cherwin> Penguin_: first type ./configure
[03:54] <Noahj> jada87: it enables the framebuffer... I think... I'm going to try it on my other machine and see how it goes first, it's been a while since I've done this (last time I did I used gentoo)
[03:55] <itai> THANKS FOR THE LINKS, WILL TRY THEM OUT
[03:55] <Beta_M> gnube:  you have to help somebody, and you receive brownie points
[03:55] <Beta_M> but you have to imagine them
[03:55] <Penguin_> I've tryied that
[03:55] <gnube> Beta_M, heh!
[03:55] <jadaz87> Noahj: oh ok :-)
[03:55] <Bassetts> =( i just want to send like 3 files to vista
[03:56] <Beta_M> Bassetts:  what's the problem?
[03:56] <Bassetts> Beta_M: i have vista in a vm and cant send files to it
[03:56] <Beta_M> sorry, virtual machines are above my head for now
[03:56] <Iam8up|lpy> Bassetts - windows shares?
[03:57] <gnube> Bassetts, Which virtual machine?
[03:57] <Noahj> jadaz87: Yeah, just add vga=0x318 video=vesafb to the end of the kernel line and it'll work
[03:57] <gnube> VMware, zen?
[03:57] <reaper> how do i download the latest nvidia drivers?
[03:57] <Bassetts> gnube: vmware server
[03:57] <gnube> or rather xen?
[03:58] <Kirlyin> I'm a complete newbie to ubuntu...how do you install VLC? (i think there might be something wrong with the synaptic package manager)
[03:58] <livevil> hi
[03:58] <snoops> Noahj do you have a guide for changing that to whatever res you want? (in particular 1920x1200) :)
[03:58] <snowblink> !vlc
[03:58] <ubotu> from memory, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[03:58] <gnomefreak> !vlc
[03:58] <snoops> Kirlyin you need to enable the univese repostiroes
[03:58] <Beta_M> Kirlyin:  System -> Admin -> Synaptic package mannager
[03:58] <gnube> Kirlyin, Probably nothing wrong with synaptic, you have to change your source.list
[03:58] <jimmy89> sry to ask again, but anyone know how to config wep key#2 using networkmanager?
[03:58] <Noahj> snoops: I think it says something in the grub manual...
[03:58] <snoops> k
[03:59] <planetcall> goodevening all
[03:59] <Beta_M> hi
[03:59] <livevil> hi to all
[03:59] <m0gsi> Hello all i was just wondering if there was a package out there that could help me tweat the gnome GUI
[03:59] <Kirlyin> well it says:  Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:59] <gnube> Kirlyin, Edit /etc/apt/sources.list enable the universe repository and synaptic will work to add VLC
[03:59] <planetcall> anyone having problem with Azureus slide-in messages at lower right of screen ?
[03:59] <livevil> does someone use amule? I don't know how to configure my firewall (firestarter). Can someone help me?
[03:59] <planetcall> they dont seem to go away
[04:00] <Penguin_> I'm also having problems connecting to wireless networks. When I use ndiswrapper it tells me the driver is invalid. also how do I remove old version of ubuntu from the boot. I've tried moving the files but I don't have the permissions. how do I do it with sudo
[04:00] <meuserj> does anyone have any idea how to change the master password for your keyring manager in GNOME?
[04:00] <Noahj> snoops: I think that video=vesafb,1920x1200-16@75 should work
[04:00] <Noahj> snoops: I'm going to test that method of setting the res
[04:00] <planetcall> anyone using azureus here ?
[04:00] <snoops> doesn't support 24bit?
[04:00] <meuserj> or even just completely remove the current keyring...
[04:00] <jadaz87> Noahj: what do you mean at the end of the kernel line?
[04:00] <snoops> and gosh man 60hz!
[04:00] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[04:00] <Noahj> snoops: sure
[04:00] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[04:01] <Noahj> snoops: I didn't know your card could do that
[04:01] <jadaz87> Noahj: i just set them as defoption=vga=0x318
[04:01] <jimmy89> someone has to know how to set wep key#2 in networkmanager!
[04:01] <m0gsi> Hello all i was just wondering if there was a package out there that could help me tweat the gnome GUI
[04:01] <m0gsi> tweak*
[04:02] <cherwin> jimmy89: why do you want to set up key#2?
[04:02] <snoops> Noahj it's the native res of my monitor :) thanks for testing it out by the way
[04:02] <Noahj> jadaz87: I put the lines right after the kernel line
[04:02] <cherwin> jimmy89: what do you want to do, you just want to connect with a wireless network using wep am i right?
[04:02] <xinel> hey guys i have a dual core lappy, should i install an smp kernel?
[04:02] <jimmy89> cherwin: yes
[04:02] <Noahj> snoops: no problem
[04:03] <jimmy89> cherwin: but it has to be key#2 beause my school uses that key#
[04:03] <winbond> does anyone use the official bittorrent client? , by bram cohen
[04:03] <cherwin> jimmy89: you can use iwconfig (read the manual for usage) or you can use nm-applet, a very usefull tool
[04:03] <davvyk> hi how do you connect to a network over wifi in linux. is there not a scanning ap like windows zero?
[04:03] <Schneeschwarz> xinel: that's what a smp kernel is for
[04:03] <snoops> don't see why you would when the are better alternatives winbond..
[04:03] <Doat> hi. i'm having a problem installing cvscedega on ubuntu. The actual install goes fine but when i run cvscedega i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15659 Ideas?
[04:03] <Noahj> davvyk: network-admin should scan for you
[04:03] <jimmy89> cherwin: nm-aplet meaning networkmanger?
[04:03] <reaper> help! i cant install flash player!
[04:03] <ivan_> hello
[04:03] <xinel> Schneeschwarz, thanx, wasn't sure
[04:03] <MadMerC> hi does anyone know of any reason a cpu would suddenly start to overheat and yes the fan is still working ??
[04:03] <reaper> for firefox
[04:03] <ivan_> i hace a problem
[04:03] <ivan_> with acpi control
[04:04] <m0gsi> Scneeschwarz try using wifi-radar thats what i am using it's avaliable from the add/remove program cool.
[04:04] <cherwin> jimmy89: i dont know if it is the same, but there are more network managers
[04:04] <reaper> MadMerC: try checking if the heatsink is actually touching the cpu
[04:04] <Kirlyin> how do i check to see if the universal package is disabled or need to edit it or whatever?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> reaper: what is the output of uname -r?
[04:04] <m0gsi> *tool
[04:04] <kholerabbi> How do I install thunderbird?
[04:04] <jimmy89> well i need one where i can select the key number used
[04:04] <MadMerC> reaper yes it is
[04:04] <Schneeschwarz> m0gsi: ?
[04:04] <aa_> hi, something really strange has happened in that my sound vanished when upgrading to dapper. Where should I start looking? I have the card setup correctly it seems, kernel drivers run, alsa mixer knows the card and seems to work, no errors anywhere, just no sound :( any ideas please?
[04:04] <reaper> gnomefreak: see i didnt even understand that :D i just installed ubuntu tonight
[04:04] <livevil> does someone use amule?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> Kirlyin: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:04] <davvyk> i dont see where im supposed to be scanning in that all it seems to have is a list of interfaces such as wireless ra0 but no ability to scan
[04:04] <winbond> snoops: im just checking things out before i settle on something
[04:04] <snoops> !tell reaper about flash
[04:04] <SiriusIntent> Help! I'm trying to partition a 20 gig hard drive for a ubuntu (Dapper) installation with a /home partition but have no idea what i'm doing.
[04:04] <ivan_> hello
[04:04] <Noahj> snoops: I thing you have to use vesafb-tng for that
[04:05] <gnomefreak> reaper: in terminal type uname -r  and let me know what it says after you hit enter
[04:05] <ivan_> can help me please?
[04:05] <Noahj> aa_: re-run alsaconf?
[04:05] <reaper> ok
[04:05] <aa_> Noahj: ok, thanks
[04:05] <jimmy89> cherwin: i have networkmanager now, and i cant see anyway to change the key#
[04:05] <cherwin> jimm89: key#2 is just a key that is calculated, nothing more. you can just connect with a network and do not have te specificaly tell you wireless card that it's key#2
[04:05] <planetcall> anyone having problem with Azureus slide-in message ?
[04:05] <reaper> gnomefreak:
[04:05] <snoops> SiriusIntent you can use the graphical installer to partition a disk up
[04:05] <SiriusIntent> yeah im running the installer from the live cd
[04:05] <reaper> gnomefreak: 2.6.15-23-386
[04:05] <aa_> Noahj: um, what happened to alsaconf
[04:05] <jimmy89> cherwin: you sure?
[04:05] <boha_> what server should i use for hotmail.com? POP?
[04:06] <jimmy89> because i tried today and it didnt connect
[04:06] <Penguin_> I'm also having problems connecting to wireless networks. When I use ndiswrapper it tells me the driver is invalid. also how do I remove old version of ubuntu from the boot. I've tried moving the files but I don't have the permissions. how do I do it with sudo
[04:06] <Noahj> aa_: Oh darn... I think it's gone
[04:06] <gnomefreak> reaper: go to the site ubotu sent you in pm and install it you may need to enable universe and multiverse repos
[04:06] <reaper> boha_: its all on hotmailes site
[04:06] <cherwin> jimmy89: yes, just use iwconfig ethX essid <wireless network> to connect to the network
[04:06] <aa_> Noahj: am trying using dpkg-reconfigure
[04:06] <snoops> reaper that link ubotu pasted to you will covers what you need to do to install flash
[04:06] <reaper> ahh ok
[04:06] <davvyk> Noahj: i dont see where im supposed to be scanning in that all it seems to have is a list of interfaces such as wireless ra0 but no ability to scan
[04:06] <Noahj> aa_: it's just a script though, I'll look for a link on the net
[04:06] <cherwin> jimmy89: and then iwconfig ethX key <key> and see for yourslef
[04:06] <MadMerC> is there a virus or something that could make the cpu overheat ???
[04:07] <Noahj> davvyk: go to properties and look down the list of available networks
[04:07] <aa_> Noahj: thanks, I used to think alsa+debian was hard, this is just impossible <wink>
[04:07] <jadaz87> MacMerC linux is not subseptable to virii
[04:07] <gnomefreak> MadMerC: reboot see if it goes abck to normal
[04:07] <webguy> i set up postfix on my server how do i set up seperate mailboxes
[04:07] <jimmy89> cherwin: do i have to use iwconfig for it to work, instead of network manager?
[04:07] <snoops> SiriusIntent oh okay.. and not sure what to partition, what file systems etc?
[04:07] <SiriusIntent> what filesystem is used for a /home partition?
[04:07] <SiriusIntent> yeah thats right
[04:07] <snoops> ext3 is a safe bet
[04:08] <cherwin> jimmy89: i use iwconfig to test if everything is correct, i find it the best tool for such things, if it works, then i use nm-applet or some sort of network manager
[04:08] <Penguin_> I'm also having problems connecting to wireless networks. When I use ndiswrapper it tells me the driver is invalid. also how do I remove old version of ubuntu from the boot. I've tried moving the files but I don't have the permissions. how do I do it with sudo
[04:08] <gnomefreak> MadMerC: if i had to guess its a hardware issue not so much a software issue but rebooting should fix any software issue with it
[04:08] <Noahj> aa_: I believe that you can grab a tarball from ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsaconf/
[04:08] <snoops> reiserfs is another option..
[04:08] <Noahj> aa_: that should work
[04:08] <SiriusIntent> thanks snoops :)
[04:08] <MadMerC> gnomefreak it keeps freezing my pc and i have to reboot so no rebooting doesnt seem to help but i do have the case off now and its still running
[04:08] <aa_> Noahj: thanks
[04:08] <snoops> what partitions are you making SiriusIntent?
[04:08] <planetcall> SiriusIntent, go with EXT3FS
[04:08] <gnomefreak> MadMerC: is it cooler with the case off?
[04:08] <planetcall> SiriusIntent, reiserfs just made me install all over again y'day
[04:09] <Noahj> Yeah, I used reiserfs3 a while ago and it died on me, but that's just my experience.
[04:09] <planetcall> Noahj, same here !
[04:09] <MadMerC> im just wondering if any could think of any reason why it would all of a sudden start to do this
[04:09] <nosilver4u> does anyone know what the option is to have your screen area bigger than your actual monitor?
[04:09] <gnomefreak> MadMerC: your fans on the way out maybe
[04:09] <reaper> gnomefreak: i'm using synaptic to install packages. I can't find the flash installer?
[04:09] <jimmy89> cherwin: do i have to uncomment my wireless  int in the interfaces file?
[04:09] <_grout> in the CLI what can i type to see what version of ubuntu im running?
[04:09] <basti_> is there any explanation to why when just after I formatted my second ata disk with ext3 there is 3GB used on it and a lost+found folder on it when it's mounted? (its not a brand new disk)
[04:09] <MadMerC> gnomefreak i dont know is there some sort of system monitor package i can install ??
[04:09] <gnomefreak> reaper: you need to enable universe adn multiverse repos
[04:10] <reaper> which is located where?
[04:10] <SiriusIntent> i went with a primary ex3 then split the remaining into an extended swap (1gig) and the rest of the logical i wanted to use for /home
[04:10] <gnomefreak> MadMerC: not that im aware of
[04:10] <Noahj> snoops: about the grub thing, try vesafb-tng,1920x1200-24@60
[04:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell reaper -about multiverse
[04:10] <davvyk> Noahj: are you refering to, system - admin - network?
[04:10] <_grout> in the CLI what can i type to see what version of ubuntu im running?
[04:10] <Noahj> snoops: I don't know if ubuntu has vesafb-tng though
[04:10] <reaper> tah
[04:10] <cherwin> jimmy89: no just set everything up with iwconfig, make sure the interface is up with ifconfig. And when you are connected use dhclient to get an ip address
[04:10] <gnomefreak> MadMerC: i would really have your fan checked  (is this a duel boot)?
[04:10] <MadMerC> hmmm maybe it just has too much fan lint in it
[04:11] <snoops> and add that to the line where I tell grub what kernel to boot in menu.lst?
[04:11] <MadMerC> gnomefreak no its just ubuntu on here
[04:11] <gnomefreak> hmm
[04:11] <cherwin> jimmy89: but anyway, i'm off now, see you!
[04:11] <jimmy89> cherwin: so i will have to manually change the iwconfig everytime i come home, and then change it again when i go to school?
[04:11] <Noahj> davvyk: I don't usually use the menus
[04:11] <lotia> folks anyone having trouble with nvidia cards and dapper.
[04:12] <MadMerC> lotia mine works fine
[04:12] <Iam8up|lpy> can anyone tell me the name of the window manager that turns the desktops into a cube, nice window effects and all - runs on XGL
[04:12] <gnomefreak> lotia: nope  why not try to tell us the problem so we might beablet o help
[04:12] <Bassetts> for all those who were helping with my vmware problem, i have it sorted, in the vm settings you can add a parition to be a drive on the vm
[04:12] <aa_> Noahj: ok, this is starting to scare me, running alsaconf, my card isn't in the available driver list (I think) - triple checking)
[04:12] <Noahj> snoops: yeah, although jada had some other way of doing it I think...
[04:12] <MadMerC> Iam8up|lpy its called compiz
[04:12] <basti_> Iam8up|lpy: compiz?
[04:13] <schloob> on2see: wine is in there
[04:13] <azer_> hi all
[04:13] <Noahj> aa_: what does your card show up as in lspci?
[04:13] <lotia> i have a nvidia geforce  7600 hooked up to a 30" display over DVI. gdm comes up fine, but when i log in, i get a blank screen with a pointer, my gnome session never starts. running dapper drake on amd64
[04:13] <gnomefreak> XGL runs on compiz but close enough ;)
[04:13] <azer_> what is the package for GL/gl.h ?
[04:13] <aa_> Noahj: its a common sound card I mean sb audigy 2
[04:13] <octan> brb i need some help,.
[04:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Iam8up|lpy -about xgl
[04:13] <octan> i cat use 2 sound apps at once..
[04:13] <aa_> Noahj: 0000:02:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[04:13] <octan> *cant
[04:13] <on2see> it is?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell octan -about dmix
[04:13] <Noahj> aa_: I heard that a lot of people are having problems with audigy cards...
[04:14] <octan> how do i use 2 sound apps at once.. like amarok and teamspeaker
[04:14] <snoops> Noahj hmm I'll have a look and play around.. thanks
[04:14] <Bassetts> how can i change permissions of a file?
[04:14] <aa_> Noahj: yikes, any refeernce?
[04:14] <Noahj> octan: I think there's an app called audiowrapper for that
[04:14] <gnomefreak> octan: read the pm ubotu sent you
[04:14] <Noahj> snoops: sure.
[04:14] <snoops> lotia do you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[04:14] <lotia> nope
 ok.. but that was for gnome :\ err, im on kde
[04:14] <lotia> snoops nope
[04:15] <Noahj> aa_: I was chatting at the time, so I don't have any particular reference.
[04:15] <gnomefreak> octan: i dont think is DE dependant
[04:15] <snoops> it's possible some crazy resolution business is going on.. did you boot into the live cd setup fine lotia?
[04:15] <Ignite> hrm, i've installed that cool 3D thing along with compiz, but in gnome it doesn't work correctly, i thought "heh, i will install KDE and give that a try", so, is there a quick way to install a basic KDE installation without using kubuntu-desktop? i don't need all the stuff, just a basic KDE desktop to test it
[04:15] <sheil> Not to be an ass (because I know a lot of you are busy with other people), but is anyone available to help me out with an ubuntu problem?  I'm having a problem with something taking up space on my hard drive, but I don't know what it is.
[04:15] <aa_> Noahj: ah cool, well I need to reboot to turn the onboard card on in BIOS, thanks for your hel
[04:15] <snoops> its gui I mean
[04:15] <gnomefreak> octan: you can do it with alsa its in the forums i just cant remember where in forums
[04:15] <lotia> snoops: i didn't i had to use the alternate installer
[04:15] <MadMerC> Ignite it should run fine on gnome
[04:15] <snoops> Ignite it's working fine in gnome for me
[04:16] <gnomefreak> sheil: sudo apt-get autoclean
[04:16] <gnomefreak> sheil: start there
[04:16] <snoops> lotia I'm not too sure what the problem could be.. have you checked the forums?
[04:16] <sheil> Alright, I'll try that gnomefreak
[04:16] <mathieu_> sheil: use du --max-depth=1 | sort -g  recursively to find it
[04:16] <MadMerC> lotia try this
[04:16] <Ignite> its not xgl, i have an ATI card with open source drivers, its that other thing developed by a fedora team i believe
[04:16] <MadMerC> !fixres
[04:16] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:16] <Noahj> Ignite: aptitude install kde? (wink wink)
[04:16] <Ignite> thanks
[04:16] <Ignite> :)
[04:16] <Noahj> Ignite: Wait, that might have dep issues
[04:16] <gnomefreak> aiglx?
[04:17] <Ignite> gnomefreak, yeah i think thats it
[04:17] <gnomefreak> thats the one by redhat iirc
[04:17] <MadMerC> aiglx should work with gnome too shouldnt it ??
[04:17] <gnomefreak> yes
[04:17] <jimmy89> any one know of a gui network manager that supports different wep key#'s?
[04:17] <Ignite> the desktop just goes white and i can't see the menu bar
[04:17] <gnomefreak> MadMerC: key word "should"
[04:17] <Noahj> jimmy89: just use iwconfig, it's easier than a gui
[04:17] <ruggy> from what distro did you all convert to ubuntu from?
[04:17] <MadMerC> gnomefreak lol
[04:18] <MadMerC> ruggy windows xp lol
[04:18] <jadaz87> Noahj: GDM/xorg does not start now :-)
[04:18] <Noahj> jimmy89: although network-admin does support multiple locations, I think
[04:18] <jimmy89> noahj: but i need to change profiles each day
[04:18] <Sildargod> hiya all
[04:18] <jadaz87> Noahj: YAY LOL j/k
[04:18] <Sildargod> how goes it today?
[04:18] <tonedahl> Gparted won't allow me to resize my ntfs drive. From Norwegian: coun't read the the information on the filesystem. What do I do? I've run both windows defragmenter and harddrive fix thingy
[04:19] <jimmy89> noahj: and also iwconfig dosn't support passphrase....
[04:19] <Paradoxx> any1 know how i can get my bg image to change automatically ever X mins
[04:19] <jimmy89> noahj: network-admin you say?
[04:19] <on2see> !updatemanager
[04:19] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, on2see
[04:19] <leandro> hi all... any wireless expert? I got my broadcom card working only once
[04:19] <Frogzoo> tonedahl: is there a swap file in there somewhere? maybe remove it from the os & try again
[04:19] <octan> gnomefreak, aoss /opt/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak did not work verry well..
[04:19] <Paradoxx> leandro: whats the problem?
[04:19] <Sildargod> wow.. here i am a complete newb amongst all you people wanting to do hardcore things
[04:19] <snoops> tonedahl you could try a different partitioning manager - such as partition magic.. to resize then use the partition manager in ubuntu to setup your swap and ext3 partitions
[04:19] <Noahj> jimmy89: yeah, it crashes pretty often here (ndiswrapper), but it's nice
[04:19] <octan> gnomefreak, to get TS to work i need to have 0 sound apps runing and disable the kde soundsystem
[04:20] <Frogzoo> tonedahl: just make sure you have enough mem to boot without swap...
[04:20] <Sildargod> anyone have time to help a very fresh beginner?
[04:20] <MadMerC> Sildargod tell me bout it lol
[04:20] <on2see> how do I use uotu
[04:20] <on2see> ubotu*
[04:20] <Noahj> Sildargod: what's your problem?
[04:20] <Paradoxx> leandro: what is your problem??
[04:20] <Sildargod> MadMerC, all i want to do is install windowmaker
[04:20] <NoUse> !tell on2see about ubotu
[04:20] <Sildargod> *grin*
[04:20] <kazukisan> Where the heck are all the packages in ubuntu when i do apt-get like lets say wine i get messages like this Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[04:20] <Sildargod> it's less obvious than i would have hoped
[04:20] <Frogzoo> ubotu tell on2see about ubotu
[04:20] <MadMerC> Sildargod just do a search in synaptic
[04:20] <jimmy89> noahj: so it can support wireless profiles can it?
[04:20] <leandro> Paradoxx: hum..
[04:20] <Sildargod> i did, i downloaded the tar.gz and there was no such luck
[04:21] <leandro> Paradoxx: I got it working once
[04:21] <Sildargod> i tried sudo apt-get install wmaker
[04:21] <Paradoxx> leandro: whats your problem with your wifi?
[04:21] <Sildargod> but still nothing
[04:21] <kane77> hi guys... do you know of any game that is similar to diablo2 in gameplay and atmosphere???
[04:21] <MadMerC> Sildargod let me look
[04:21] <Noahj> jimmy89: I think that you just add a location, set it up the way you want, and then add another the other way
[04:21] <leandro> Paradoxx: but now iwconfig shows invalid access point
[04:21] <on2see> helluu?
[04:21] <snoops> for nix I'm assuming kane77?
[04:21] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: u need enable multiverse/universe
[04:21] <kane77> snoops, yes
[04:21] <Sildargod> i read through the instructions in the installation and it demanded that i make install
[04:21] <Noahj> Sildargod: do you have the universe repos enabled?
[04:21] <leandro>  Paradoxx: and I can't set it using ap MAC_ADDRR
[04:21] <Sildargod> but make isn't a command?
[04:21] <Paradoxx> do you see the network card in System >Preferences > Network
[04:21] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: diable 2 ?
[04:21] <jimmy89> Noahj: can you define which key# the wep key is stored in?
[04:21] <Astinus-> Is it just me or does Hibernate not work in ubuntu?
[04:22] <Sildargod> universe repos? i can safely say i don't think so
[04:22] <snoops> hmm.. you could run d2 in wine pretty easily I'm sure
[04:22] <sparkleytone> how do i add the gpg key from the debian repository?
[04:22] <Paradoxx> have you tried network-manager?
[04:22] <kazukisan> frogzoo: ?
[04:22] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: sry (tab)
[04:22] <Anchoito21> hola
[04:22] <Paradoxx> thats what i use
[04:22] <leandro>  Paradoxx: any idea?
[04:22] <Frogzoo> kane77: diable 2 ?
[04:22] <Paradoxx> not sure
[04:22] <sparkleytone> i tried apt-key Release.gpg but it says its not valid gpg data
[04:22] <on2see> hello?
[04:22] <Noahj> Sildargod: wmaker is in universe...
[04:22] <Fjodor> Astinus-: I think it is hit or miss on a machine to machine basis. Works fine on my laptop
[04:22] <Paradoxx> are you useing a static ip settings?
[04:22] <MadMerC> Sildargod wmaker is in there
[04:22] <kazukisan> frogzoo: Diablo 2 is a MMORGP Made by blizzard.
[04:22] <Astinus-> Fjodor: i see no progress or resume information when hibernating or restoring from it
[04:22] <snoops> what?!
[04:22] <Sildargod> ah.. so i need to install universe repos
[04:22] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: which runs under wine beautifully...
[04:23] <kane77> Frogzoo, whats the site to it?
[04:23] <Sildargod> cool! that's a first step. lemme try that. Thank you
[04:23] <Noahj> Sildargod gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then add universe to the end of the first line
[04:23] <Frogzoo> !tell kane77 about appdb
[04:23] <snoops> It's a slash and hack rpg.. no mmo about it.
[04:23] <MadMerC> Sildargod yup
[04:23] <groo> its not really mmo
[04:23] <Sildargod> Whoop! thank you!
[04:23] <_grout> in the CLI what do i type to see what version of ubuntu im running?
[04:23] <Fjodor> Astinus-: Haven't got much experience other than for my laptop, it works :-/
[04:23] <Anchoito21> anyone knows how works terminal server?
[04:23] <Noahj> jimmy89: I haven't used it much
[04:23] <kazukisan> Frogzoo: Havent tried that under wine yet i might have to get out the cds, but star craft ran perfectly i think blizzard and wine were made for each other :P
[04:23] <Sildargod> brb
[04:23] <ic56> !tell on2see about upgrade
[04:23] <Paradoxx> leandro: ??
[04:23] <groo> hey guys how do i put icons on the deskop in 6.06?
[04:23] <MadMerC> whats KDE like to use ???
[04:24] <Noahj> groo: you mean a new icon theme?
[04:24] <_grout> !tell _grout about upgrade
[04:24] <sparkleytone> anyone?  how do i add the gpg key from the debian repositories to apt?  i tried apt-key add Release.gpg but its not working
[04:24] <jadaz87> nassor: what should i do?
[04:24] <jimmy89> if you have it installed can you please check for me? because if i try to use it, it could stuff up my wireless connection
[04:24] <sheil> Hey, I did a du / --max-depth=1 | sort-g and it's saying that my largest directory is / ... does that include everything underneath (includes subfolders)?
[04:24] <tonedahl> I just had to install ntfs-tools. Thanks anyway :)
[04:24] <jadaz87> Noahj: what should i do?
[04:24] <ic56> groo: what kind of icons?  the trashbin or your own files?
[04:24] <groo> noahj: like mounted cds automatically or HDs
[04:24] <Frogzoo> groo: if you drag/move files to desktop, they get icons automatically
[04:24] <groo> yeah
[04:24] <jadaz87> Noahj: the tty1 is in native resolution now but xorg/gdm does not start now
[04:24] <oni-dracula> eh...I'll ask this again, just in case...  Does anyone have a copy of cedega in .deb format?
[04:25] <snoops> Noahj you know in the ubuntu live disc I can choose to do 1600x1200 res so I guess that means 1920x1200 should be fine
[04:25] <groo> ok if I drag the HD
[04:25] <Noahj> jadaz87: What's the error?
[04:25] <kazukisan> frogzoo: I  have multi uni and non free all that enabled and its still not finding wine :'(
[04:25] <_grout> in the CLI what do i type to see what version of ubuntu im running?
[04:25] <MadMerC> groo when you put a cd in the drive u should get a cd icon on the desktop automatically
[04:25] <jadaz87> Noahj: maybe it is the video=vesafb line
[04:25] <Frogzoo> !wine
[04:25] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[04:25] <groo> ok
[04:25] <Noahj> snoops: When live is booted, maybe it makes a custom menu.lst?
[04:25] <jadaz87> Noahj: i do not know it just says x is disabled
[04:25] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: u need a different repo for wine
[04:25] <Noahj> jadaz87: when you just run "X"?
[04:26] <kane77> i dont realy like running things on wine... it lasts so long till they start...
[04:26] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: no I lie - it should be there...
[04:26] <snoops> shrug, it's mostly all smoke and mirrors to me Noahj
[04:26] <kazukisan> Frogzoo: Gah that sucks they dont include it :(
[04:26] <_grout> in the CLI what do i type to see what version of ubuntu im running?
[04:26] <itai> snoops, you still there?
[04:26] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: click "reload" - should find it now
[04:26] <snoops> yep itai
[04:26] <ic56> groo: if they don't already show up, try running gconf-editor and go down to system> storage.  Check teh appropriate boxes.
[04:26] <itai> i followed your link
[04:26] <kazukisan> frogzoo: that didnt work either
[04:26] <itai> but
[04:26] <snoops> ah cool, how did it go?
[04:26] <Sildargod> i'm baaaack! gpedit the sources.list didn't work
[04:26] <itai> when i reboot - i get a grub command line thing
[04:26] <sheil> According to the du tool, I have 23 gigs of space used.  However, GParted says that I have 56GB used!  Where's the extra space being taken up?  I also posted something about this on the Forums (includes screenshots): http://tinyurl.com/q4gpq
[04:26] <Noahj> _grout: back in debian it was cat /etc/debian_version... maybe it's ubuntu_version in ubuntu?
[04:26] <itai> like grub.
[04:27] <Sildargod> i'll send the error
[04:27] <itai> grub>
[04:27] <groo> ic56 ok thank you verty much
[04:27] <Sildargod> While connecting to session manager:
[04:27] <Sildargod> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:27] <ic56> groo: yw!
[04:27] <Noahj> Sildargod: that looks like an X error
[04:27] <williamvergara> hi, i have a very short question
[04:27] <Sildargod> does that mean my logon isn't priviledged enough?
[04:27] <gnomefreak> Noahj: lsb_release -a
[04:27] <Noahj> Sildargod: just edit it with nano
[04:27] <williamvergara> how do i set up a ubuntu mirror?
[04:27] <petej> lo... anyone succeeded in installing Math::Pari on hoary? been banging my head on this half of today here
[04:27] <Sildargod> Noahj, x? aight, lemme try nano
[04:27] <Noahj> _grout: what gnomefreak said
[04:27] <williamvergara> is there a official script?
[04:28] <Sildargod> ha! this seems more likely
[04:28] <williamvergara> please, i knot it has a fast anwser
[04:28] <williamvergara> i just need a link
[04:28] <snoops> itai lets go over the steps you took.. booted from live cd(1), opened console in gnome environment(2), mounted the partitions needed in terminal(3), chrooted to the system(4), ran grub installer(5), rebooted(6)?
[04:28] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: dapper?
[04:28] <itai> yes
[04:28] <williamvergara> anyone??
[04:28] <gnomefreak> williamvergara: i dont think there is a fast answer for that
[04:28] <williamvergara> gnomefreak: i script should make one
[04:28] <kazukisan> frogzoo yea
[04:29] <williamvergara> a script i mean
[04:29] <itai> did it twice , with similar results
[04:29] <gnomefreak> williamvergara: "should"
[04:29] <MadMerC> williamvergara you mite be better off checking the ubuntu website out
[04:29] <Arbiter> hm... some devs here?
[04:29] <Sildargod> err... is there any particular command i should use with nano? it's started it but there doesn't appear to be any spark
[04:29] <gnomefreak> williamvergara: i would look on ubuntu.com see if anywhere says it
[04:29] <williamvergara> i was there, but i only find something about rsync
[04:29] <snoops> itai can you check your /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if it has options for xp/ubuntu etc?
[04:30] <sheil> Can anyone help me out with my disk space problem?
[04:30] <jadaz87> Noahj_AFK: no when i startup ubuntu
[04:30] <jimmy89> Noahj: if you have it installed can you please check for me? because if i try to use it, it could stuff up my wireless connection
[04:30] <NoUse> sheil are you running out of space?
[04:30] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: must conclude you haven't enabled multiverse - click on "Ubuntu LTS 6.06 (binary)" then "edit" & select universe/multiverse repos
[04:30] <kazukisan> frogzoo: When i add deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main to the resp list i hit reload and get this error: Could not download all repository indexes-> for the one i just added
[04:30] <Ignite> hrm, can i use apt to remove a package and all its dependencies? i've installed kdebase to test something (which didn't go well) and now have no use for it, nor any of the other KDE stuff
[04:30] <itai> i think it menu.lst didn't change, it certainly has an ubuntu option
[04:31] <gnomefreak> cafuego__: you know a site that gives you instructions on running an offical ubuntu mirror?
[04:31] <Sildargod> no... my sources.list is blank.. it should contain text right?
[04:31] <itai> i checked it to make sure i write grub to the right place...
[04:31] <_grout> in the CLI what do i type to see what version of ubuntu im running?
[04:31] <sheil> NoUse:  I ran the du command to see what was taking up space on my hard drive.  Apparently, Linux and my other Windows partition are taking up 23.5GB.  But GParted and Nautilus say that my disk is almost full (only 1.5GB free)
[04:31] <gnomefreak> Sildargod: if on breezy use the " around the command
[04:31] <Frogzoo> _grout: lsb_release -a
[04:31] <gnomefreak> Sildargod: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <manuel_> I have a question
[04:31] <gnomefreak> "
[04:31] <Sildargod> gnomefreak, ?
[04:31] <Sildargod> ah
[04:31] <snoops> well err itai since you installed vista over ubuntu.. when you reinstaleld grub it should have rewritten your menu.lst with the new vista os detected
[04:31] <Sildargod> lemme do that
[04:31] <gnomefreak> Sildargod: end it in " also
[04:32] <Ng> sheil: they are showing you different things.
[04:32] <manuel_> my connection is very slow :-(
[04:32] <NoUse> sheil I'd trust du before I trusted gparted
[04:32] <itai> i see, but i dont get a grub menu at all
[04:32] <Ng> sheil: gparted is showing you how much of the disk is allocated to partitions, df/du tell you about how much space is being used *within* those partitions
[04:32] <NoUse> sheil sudo apt-get autoclean will remove some old deb files
[04:32] <manuel_> I need more pakages ....
[04:32] <itai> i just get a command prompt
[04:32] <Frogzoo> manuel_: define - you actual service speed - observed speed
[04:32] <itai> grub>
[04:32] <sheil> i tried autoclean.  It hasn't helped
[04:32] <_grout> whats lsb?
[04:32] <sheil> Nautilus still says there's only 1.5GB free
[04:32] <NoUse> sheil what does 'df -h' show?
[04:32] <Sildargod> nope.. still blank! haha! lemme try logging on with a different account
[04:32] <gnomefreak> _grout: lsb_release -a is a command to run to find out what version of ubuntu you have
[04:32] <Noahj> jadaz87, That'd be GDM then... what error do you get when you just run X?
[04:32] <Frogzoo> manuel_: so what's the question?
[04:33] <snoops> itai sounds like it's not pointing to your menu.lst..
[04:33] <sheil> NoUse:  Please see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195468.  I already posted the text from that command there.
[04:33] <Sildargod> nope. blank as ever. it's not a file i have to create from scratch is it?
[04:33] <slavik> hi all\
[04:33] <Noahj> jimmy89: I'll try to set up a network profile, sure.
[04:33] <snoops> you absolutely did chroot into your ubuntu install right itai?
[04:34] <Spec> If I have a process, 'foo', running and doing I/O and utilizing network resources, etc etc, and I want to find out just how many resources foo uses, what's the best way to accomplish this?
[04:34] <slavik> is there a way to get the kernel to not print ANYTHING at all to the screen when it boots?
[04:34] <itai> i must have..
[04:34] <Sildargod> oh for crying in a bucket
[04:34] <Frogzoo> sheil: df -h
[04:34] <jimmy89> Noahj: Thanks
[04:34] <sheil> Oh oh
[04:34] <Noahj> Sildargod, /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:34] <wildman> Spec: check 'vmstat'
[04:34] <sheil> One second Frogzoo and NoUse
[04:34] <itai> i will repeat the procedure again,
[04:34] <Sildargod> yes.. sources.list helps.. not source.list
[04:34] <Some_Person> How can I play .wma in Rhythmbox?
[04:34] <Sildargod> *ahem*
[04:34] <kazukisan> frogzoo: i am running 64bit distro i think that may be the prob
[04:34] <wildman> Spec: dunno if it can be 'specialized' per-process...
[04:34] <aa_> Noahj: ok, ripped out the audigy, on the on board card, all working perfectly, thanks :)
[04:34] <Sildargod> thank you! retarded user here
[04:34] <Spec> yeah, doesn't look like it
[04:34] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: ah, yes it is
[04:34] <Some_Person> And why does Totem suck
[04:35] <Spec> wildman: but i can vmstat, record record, stop process, vmstat, compare :p
[04:35] <Noahj> Some_Person, you need the codec, I believe
[04:35] <jadaz87> Noahj: i was also wondering why grub is not in native resolution lol
[04:35] <wildman> Spec: yeah :)
[04:35] <Spec> any other suggestions though?
[04:35] <wildman> Spec: better than nothing, hein ?
[04:35] <Spec> i wanna try multiple things :p
[04:35] <Frogzoo> Some_Person: totem's not too bad - gxine performs better visually though
[04:35] <lotia> it seems like the gnome session never starts
[04:35] <manuel_> I would like to know if it possible download all packages and library and then use th dvd like a repository. If it is possibel I would like to know where I can download all pakages (or a lot) to create the dvd. Thanks
[04:35] <reaper> hey! i'm having some trouble. i want to force my screen to display at 72Hz, but it only has 60 and 75 in the menu!
[04:35] <wildman> not here, sorry
[04:35] <Noahj> jada87: it's not working?
[04:35] <sheil> Frogzoo and NoUse:  I have encountered something interesting with that command
[04:35] <snoops> itai I mean you typed chroot 'location of system' like the wiki said to and then it logged you into root@yourmachinename right itai?
[04:35] <Spec> I was wondering if there were perhaps a program to analyze 'strace' output
[04:35] <Some_Person> Totem is jumpy when playing mp3s
[04:35] <reaper> hey! i'm having some trouble. i want to force my screen to display at 72Hz, but it only has 60 and 75 in the menu!
[04:35] <sheil> /dev/hda4             9.7G  7.8G  1.5G  85% /
[04:35] <Some_Person> Where can i get the wma codec?
[04:35] <Ng> Spec: not afaik, you'll need to know a little about syscalls and read/grep it ;/
[04:35] <sheil> It says that the disk is only 9.7G capacity
[04:35] <Sildargod> brb and thanks again guys
[04:35] <itai> mmm, i wasn't paying atention
[04:36] <Noahj> jadaz87: It's _on_ the kernel line, right?
[04:36] <tonedahl> I seriously need help. I just tried to resize a ntfs partition with all my photos and stuff in gparted. And it hanged, so I killed it. Now windows won't boot, gparted sais it's unknown etc. How do I fix this?! :(
[04:36] <wildman> reaper: 75 is not good for u instead?
[04:36] <krazykit> Some_Person: w32codecs
[04:36] <Noahj> Some_Person: mplayer.hu
[04:36] <Frogzoo> Some_Person: indeed - install gxine - enable expert mode - & bump up the buffer allocations - jitter bye bye
[04:36] <reaper> wildman: my monitor displays best at 72
[04:36] <Noahj> Some_Person: what krazykit said
[04:36] <wildman> reaper: oups.
[04:36] <krazykit> Some_Person: it's in Seveas' repos, too, if you want something easy.
[04:36] <sheil> Frogzoo and NoUse:  I actually had a FAT32 partition before which I deleted.  I then resized my ext3 partition to a bigger size, believing it would give me more free space.  Was I wrong in doing this?
[04:36] <MadMerC> umm is KDE normally a 211Mb download ??
[04:36] <snoops> itai.. it's always important to pay attention to what commands you're typing in..
[04:36] <reaper> wildman: do you know how to foce it to display at 72?
[04:36] <kazukisan> frogzoo: is there a way to have it only get 32 bit packages ?
[04:36] <wildman> reaper: are you sure that your monitor's params are properly set in xorg.conf? (horiz and vert refresh mainly)
[04:37] <gs> hi
[04:37] <sheil> And if I was wrong, how can I fix my mistake?
[04:37] <reaper> wildman: not really, just installed linux
[04:37] <wildman> reaper: cuz if they are, you should (in principel) be able to set all supported resolutions
[04:37] <reaper> i might try install nvidia drivers first. always a good idea i apose
[04:37] <Frogzoo> sheil: if everything went according to  plan, that should have worked
[04:37] <wildman> reaper: well, you have something to check then ;)
[04:37] <sheil> That's what I thought
[04:37] <itai> i was paying attention the commands...i didnt pay attention to whether it switched to root@mymachine name...
[04:37] <reaper> check with no knowlegde :D
[04:37] <wildman> reaper: didn't install 'em here yet, but yes
[04:37] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: yes, install dapper 32bit
[04:37] <Noahj> jimmy89: it works
[04:37] <itai> i will try again...
[04:37] <gs> i have a one problem, i edit xorg.conf with my resolution 1280x800 but only work on 1024x768 :( some ideas?
[04:37] <sheil> Frogzoo:  But something is taking up the space that I added
[04:37] <Noahj> jimmy89: just verified that
[04:37] <reaper> can you help me install nvidia driers?
[04:38] <sheil> Frogzoo:  It's not detecting it as free space, but rather as used space
[04:38] <wildman> reaper: it's all explained in ubuntu's wiki, check there
[04:38] <manuel_> my speed is very slow (36k). my plane is to download all packages from university lab and then install them on my pc
[04:38] <reaper> ok thanks
[04:38] <wildman> reaper: good luck
[04:38] <gs> i have a GMA945
[04:38] <Frogzoo> sheil: did you grow the ext partition with gparted? (while running the live cd?)
[04:38] <sheil> Frogzoo:  Yes, I did exactly that.
[04:39] <unperson> I just installed Dapper and tried to access a flash card in my card reader.  I plugged the card in, expecting it to just pop up on the desktop like in Breezy, and I get nothing.
[04:39] <sheil> Frogozoo:  While running the Live CD
[04:39] <Noahj> gs: use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:39] <Frogzoo> sheil: also, was the fat partition before or after the fat partition? (you can grow only upwards)
[04:39] <unperson> The light on the card reader is on, indicating the card is in correctly.
[04:39] <Frogzoo> sheil: also, was the fat partition before or after the ext partition? (you can grow only upwards)
[04:39] <manuel_> the qiestion is: where I can download all pakages without use the installer (Gnome App Install)in ubuntu?
[04:39] <sheil> Frogzoo:  The FAT partition was after the ext3 partition, so it did in fact only grow upwards
[04:40] <Noahj> jimmy89: Add a new location, do the properties of the card you want, then add another and do it again... walla.
[04:40] <Frogzoo> !tell manuel_ about torrent
[04:40] <unperson> I went to try to mount in manually (as a temporary solution), only to find no sd* in /dev, which is where the USB devices used to show up.
[04:40] <MadMerC> why is KDE such a big d/l ???
[04:40] <Noahj> manuel_: you mean the repos URL or you want --download-only?
[04:40] <Hoxzer> Hmm... after upgrade all my programs are crashing
[04:40] <planetcall> /usr/share/java# rename Azureus2.jar Azureus2.jar.old
[04:40] <planetcall> Bareword "Azureus2" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.
[04:40] <planetcall> Bareword "jar" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.
[04:40] <NoUse> MadMerC its a lot of software
[04:40] <Frogzoo> sheil: pls pastebin  'df -h ; sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[04:40] <manuel_> then I want to use the dvd to upgrate my packages or install the program I need using the dvd
[04:40] <planetcall> What does that mean ?
[04:41] <Noahj> MadMerC: because it's a dekstop environment with a lot of add-ons
[04:41] <jimmy89> Noahj: so did you try connecting to a network using key#2? Was that using network-admin?
[04:41] <NoUse> Frogzoo I have a feeling the parition was grown but the filesystem wasn't
[04:41] <Some_Person> ok, i'm downloading w32codecs with Synaptic
[04:41] <planetcall> Some_Person, its not in synaptic
[04:41] <MadMerC> NoUse even the kdebase install is 45Mb download lol but i spose thats a start then i can just add stiff as i need it :P
[04:41] <Noahj> jimmy89: I don't use WEP; but it should work, there's a setting for it in there... could someone_else who uses WEP keys verify this?
[04:41] <MadMerC> stuff*
[04:42] <sheil> NoUse:  That's what I figured too.  Physically, the partition is bigger.  It's just that Nautilus doesn't see the larger size.
[04:42] <manuel_> yes... download the packages, record a dvd, come home and use the dvd like repos with Gnome App Install
[04:42] <planetcall> Some_Person, go here   https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-16ea04e7e1ecd06555912ba3f470b56563cbd85d
[04:42] <Some_Person> It is if u enable the non-free repository
[04:42] <Hoxzer> AARGH
[04:42] <planetcall> hey anyone tell me what those errors mean
[04:42] <Some_Person> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[04:42] <Frogzoo> NoUse: but gparted should grow the file system, yes?
[04:42] <planetcall> i simply tried to rename a file
[04:42] <Hoxzer> is there any howto or backup script for ubuntu?
[04:42] <Hoxzer> so I can reinstall my system
[04:42] <Noahj> planetcall: use mv
[04:42] <wildman> planetcall: use 'mv' instead
[04:42] <Frogzoo> !backup
[04:42] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311 Available packages for backing up are backuppc (web based), backup2l, backup-manager, backupninja, bkp, bacula, and sbackup amongst others
[04:42] <cf2> Hi, is anyone else getting errors on running the apt ? One of the two machines that *.archive.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to have valid content. Is this a known/already-reported bug  ?
[04:42] <Some_Person> ok
[04:43] <jimmy89> Noahj: Did you just use iwconfig?
[04:43] <planetcall> Noahj, wildman  why doesnt rename work ?
[04:43] <NoUse> Frogzoo yes, it "should" :-)
[04:43] <sheil> Frogzoo:  http://www.shorttext.com/4cv0u for the output from the command you told me to run
[04:43] <Frogzoo> sheil: ta
[04:43] <sheil> I can't paste it all in here
[04:43] <Noahj> planetcall: because it wants regexps?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> sheil: use pastebin
[04:43] <gnomefreak> or there
[04:43] <planetcall> cant we rename a single file ?
[04:43] <wildman> Noahj: I was going to tell something similar :P
[04:43] <Noahj> jimmy89: nope, all gui in network-admin...
[04:44] <sheil> pastebin  'df -h ; sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[04:44] <wildman> planetcall: mv is the way to go to rename a single file IMVHO
[04:44] <jimmy89> Noahj: how do i install network admin
[04:44] <kazukisan> I got the 64bit version  is there a way to install or have apt only get 32bit packages when i try to install wine 32bit from site, it whines about my comp being 64 bit
[04:44] <sheil> I don't understand how pastebin works...
[04:44] <planetcall> ok thanks wildman
[04:44] <sheil> Is it an IRC command?
[04:44] <jimmy89> Noahj: apt-get install network-admin   ?
[04:44] <planetcall> sheil its a web utility
[04:44] <jmgm> que pasa
[04:44] <cf2> shiel: it's a website, paste into the text box, submit
[04:44] <sheil> shorttext is the same thing
[04:44] <jmgm> jdfhkjd
[04:44] <jmgm> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:44] <Noahj> jimmy89: it should be installed by default... it starts when you right click on the wifi icon on the gnome panel and hit properties
[04:45] <planetcall> to paste your codes/problems/text logs/stubs etc
[04:45] <NoUse> !tell sheil about pastebin
[04:45] <Noahj> jimmy89: you can also just start it with alt+F2 and run network_admin
[04:45] <tired_off_being_> Hi, is anyone else getting errors on running the apt ? One of the two machines that *.archive.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to have valid content. Is this a known/already-reported bug  ?
[04:45] <manuel_> if somebody know the solution to my problem please contact me...thank you to all
[04:45] <jimmy89> Noahj: oh, your referring to that
[04:45] <Noahj> jimmy89: make that sudo%F network_admin
[04:45] <itai> snoops im looking at my grub/menu.lst there is no vista option
[04:45] <sheil> Frogzoo and NoUse:  http://pastebin.com/706560
[04:45] <Noahj> jimmy89: right.
[04:45] <wildman> manuel_: your problem scrolled too high now :P
[04:46] <Noahj> tired_off_being_: could be a sources error?
[04:46] <jimmy89> Noahj: i cant see how you can configure a different key other then key#1 with it though ...
[04:46] <jimmy89> Noahj: That is why i changed to network-manager with no avail
[04:46] <jadaz87> Noahj: it was the vga=0x318 option
[04:46] <lotia> my gnome session never starts
[04:46] <sheil> Frogzoo and NoUse:  You guys see that I'm not crazy, right?!  Haha
[04:46] <tired_off_being_> Noahj: don't think so, archive.ubuntu.com resolves to 85.133.25.7, 85.133.25.8. Try loading both by http in a browser and compare
[04:46] <Noahj> jimmy89: When you add a new location, just set the key and then when you change it shoulg go back?
[04:47] <sheil> Nautilus isn't seeing the new file system
[04:47] <tonedahl> I just tried to resize a ntfs partition with all my photos on it in gparted. After a while, it stopped. So I killed it... Now windows won't boot, gparted sais the partition is of unknown filesystem and so on. How do I fix this?! :(
[04:47] <unperson> So...no one has any idea what is going on with my USB card?  Where (in /dev) *should* the USB card show up, in theory?
[04:47] <alchemist> jimmy_89: with nm-applet you have to remove the key in gnome-keyring-manager to change the keys.
[04:47] <alchemist> jimmy89: not sure with knetworkmanager what's needed
[04:47] <Noahj> jadaz87: Hmm, you could use the method I told snoops about (video=vesafb-tng,1024x768-24@75)
[04:47] <jimmy89> Noahj: What i mean is there are different keys in an acesspoint set, keys #1 through to #4, only key #2 is active, so i have to configure my wireless client to use key#2
[04:48] <Frogzoo> sheil: it's as NoUse suggested - the file system is only 8gig, while the partition is 60gig...
[04:48] <tired_off_being_> Noahj: compare http://85.133.25.8/ (good) with http://85.133.25.8/ (bad)
[04:48] <tired_off_being_> Noahj: erk, compare http://85.133.25.8/ (good) with http://85.133.25.7/ (bad)
[04:48] <ic56> tonedahl: dude!  you killed a process that was in the midst of mucking around in your filesystem?  An NTFS filesystem noless?  You're screwed!
[04:48] <Quintok> I'm trying to cross-compile using mingw32, I have binutils and runtime however parts of the win32api are missing (ie: libcabinet)  I've seen rpm's that are named win32api yet there is no similar debian package... am I missing something?
[04:48] <sheil> Frogzoo: Right, but I guess the million dollar question lies in how to fix it
[04:48] <Frogzoo> sheil: question is, how to fix this?
[04:48] <Frogzoo> snap
[04:48] <sheil> haha
[04:48] <RheumaKai> hi
[04:49] <jimmy89> alchemist: how do i config a wep key to store to key#2 through a gui client?
[04:49] <tonedahl> ic56, I got an error message and it stopped respondig
[04:49] <jadaz87> Noahj: what is the tng flag do i am just curious
[04:49] <sheil> Frogzoo:  I'm searching around on the forums and the web to see if I can find anything
[04:49] <Noahj> tired_off_being_: ooh, you're right... odd.
[04:49] <tonedahl> responding*
[04:49] <rixxon> .torrent files nolonger open in ktorrent
[04:49] <alchemist> jimmy_89: which gui client?
[04:49] <ic56> tonedahl: bummer.  I still think you're screwed.
[04:49] <tired_off_being_> Noahj: is there any way to talk to ubuntu sys admins ?
[04:49] <tonedahl> Do you have any advice?
[04:49] <Noahj> jadaz87: it's the next generation, new driver that takes modes like that.
[04:49] <axisys> anyone here used cfengine? or may suggest something else rather?
[04:49] <Spec> tired_off_being_: i run ubuntu, and i'm a sys admin?
[04:49] <Spec> does that count?
[04:50] <tonedahl> Is there a tool like chkdisk in windows?
[04:50] <Noahj> Spec: he means the admin of http://85.133.25.7
[04:50] <Spec> tonedahl: fdisk
[04:50] <jimmy89> alchemist: Any gui client, just something so i can change between profiles with out to much hassle, and be able to tell it that it is key#2
[04:50] <tired_off_being_> Spec: nah man, not unless you broke their infrastructure
[04:50] <Frogzoo> sheil: sudo apt-get install ext2resize first off
[04:50] <Noahj> tondahl: fdisk
[04:50] <wildman> e2fsck tonedahl
[04:50] <Spec> hehe
[04:50] <theine> Has anybody got Google Earth to work properly with the Xorg ati drivers?
[04:50] <itai> snoops i got my linux back but grub cannot see vista.....thanks for the help, ubuntu is more importat to me than vista..
[04:50] <wildman> chkdsk != fdisk
[04:50] <Spec> who owns that ip?
[04:50] <Spec> wildman: i know, but they're close
[04:50] <sheil> Frogzoo:  installing that now
[04:50] <ic56> tonedahl:  sorry, man.  No idea.  If you can remember the error message you might at least get more insightful feedback from others here.
[04:50] <Spec> chkdsk scans fat32 for badblocks, right?
[04:50] <tired_off_being_> Spec: it's *.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:50] <tonedahl> fdisk or e2fsck? will either check my ntfs drive for errors??
[04:51] <Spec> no
[04:51] <Spec> :p
[04:51] <jadaz87> Noahj: i can uninstall these older kernels right?
[04:51] <wildman> Spec: and the ntfs one too
[04:51] <Noahj> tonedahl: nope
[04:51] <Spec> tired_off_being_: try #ubuntu-motu perhaps
[04:51] <snoops> itai well you could add the line to menu.lst itai
[04:51] <tonedahl> Is there a tool that does that? =)
[04:51] <jadaz87> Noahj: and keep just the newest one?
[04:51] <Spec> they're the same-ish utility for different filesystems
[04:51] <tired_off_being_> Spec: thanks
[04:51] <wildman> tonedahl: e2fsck is for ext2/ext3 only, as it name implies
[04:51] <NoUse> Frogzoo let me run this sanity check through you, fdisk -s /dev/hda4 will output the size of the paritions in blocks, then resize2fs /dev/hda4 <output from fdisk> shoudl size it appropriatly, no?
[04:51] <itai> cool ,which line?
[04:51] <sheil> Frogzoo:  It's installed.  Now how does ext2resize work?
[04:51] <wildman> its*
[04:51] <unperson> I get an entry in dmesg when I plug my card reader in, but I get no message when I plug the card in.
[04:51] <snoops> if you know which partition vista is installed on..
[04:51] <ic56> tonedahl: fsck is the FileSystemChecKer.  There's one for each filesystem that's native to Linux plus a few others.  There isn't one for ntfs.  However,  ntfstools is a package that might be able to help.
[04:51] <Noahj> jadaz87: I assume so, but I wouldn't do that...
[04:52] <ic56> !ntfstools
[04:52] <tonedahl> ic56, I do. It said that one of the two operations  didn't work, and it would therefor not continue. and it stopped responding
[04:52] <snoops> you should be able to add it to your menu.lst and get grub to give you the option
[04:52] <alchemist> jimmy89: under gnome, you can do multiple profiles with  Menu->System->Administration->Networking
[04:52] <Noahj> jadaz87: I've done it before and gotten the wrong one o.o
[04:52] <jadaz87> Noahj: i want to uninstall all these 386
[04:52] <sheil> Frogzoo:  Did you see NoUse's comment?
[04:52] <jadaz87> Noahj: i whould be uninstalling anything before 2.6.15-23
[04:53] <Noahj> jadaz87: sure... be careful though :-D
[04:53] <NoUse> sheil you'll need to do this off a live cd anyhwo, you can resize a mounted parition
[04:53] <Noahj> alchemist: isn't that network_admin anyway?
[04:53] <alchemist> network-admin, but yeah
[04:53] <jimmy89> alchemist: but you can't tell it to use a network key other then #1..
[04:53] <sheil> NoUse:  Alright, that's fine.  I figured that.
[04:54] <ic56> tonedahl: that failure implies your filesystem got screwed, but maybe not irrecoverably.  However, fixing broken filesystems is a highly heuristic job.  Tools can only get you so far and, ultimately, you need to know the internals of how that filesystem works in order to be able to determine the correct course of action.
[04:54] <jadaz87> Noahj: right now i have kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash video=vesafb-tng,1024x768-32@75)
[04:54] <alchemist> jimmy89: are you pre-programming the keys to the card?
[04:54] <SWAT> I can't order larger quantities of Dapper CD's using ShipIt. Any idea when this will be possible? (or am I the only one with this 'problem'? P.S. E-mailing doesn't help)
[04:54] <Noahj> jadaz87: and X doesn't start?
[04:54] <jimmy89> alchemist: What do you mean?
[04:54] <jadaz87> Noahj: no i mean is that the correct thing
[04:55] <jadaz87> SWAT: yes you can
[04:55] <Noahj> jadaz87: Yes
[04:55] <alchemist> jimmy89: if you didn't understand, you didn't do it;)
[04:55] <jimmy89> alchemist: :p
[04:55] <alchemist> jimmy89: just put key #2 into the key field
[04:55] <sheil> NoUse:  YOU ARE CORRECT!  Woo hoo!  Someone else had the same problem at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171886&highlight=resize2fs and it seemed to work.
[04:55] <Frogzoo> NoUse: sheil that resize2fs is perfect (assuming it's on the live cd?)  'resize2fs /dev/hda4 60814057'     should do it  FROM LIVE CD
[04:55] <alchemist> jimmy89: the netowrk tool doesn't care what key number is in use on the ap, just what the key IS
[04:55] <Yagisan> can anyone suggest an app that captures opengl to either .avi or to lossless images ? (Similar to fraps on Win32)
[04:56] <sheil> Frogzoo:  That's right!
[04:56] <evoz> HELP!
[04:56] <jimmy89> alchemist: not true
[04:56] <tonedahl> ic56, when there's an error message for it and it's the first thing that met me; me CAN'T be the first one it has happened to. But I can't seem to get any help on the subject. I HAVE  to get the files back!
[04:56] <sheil> Frogzoo:  I just found the answer on another Ubuntu Forums thread
[04:56] <snoops> oh actually itai it seems vista uses a different boot manager making it difficult.. :/
[04:56] <jimmy89> alchemist: tried today and dosnt work
[04:56] <sheil> THANKS A LOT GUYS!  You really helped!
[04:56] <evoz> trying to Install Skype on Ubuntu/Debian?
[04:56] <Frogzoo> sheil: please note that resizing file systems is DANGEROUS - if you have valuable data - BACKUP FIRST!!!!!
[04:56] <jimmy89> alchemist: even in xp, if i put the key into key#1, then it dosn't work.
[04:56] <manuel_> I want to download with a windows sistem all (or a lot) packages for ubunto applications or library. Then I want to record these package on a dvd and use this like resp to upgrate my ubuntu system or install program using "Gnome App Install". I want to know 1) if it is possible, 2) where I can download all packages (iso, site...) help me please
[04:56] <alchemist> jimmy89: can you manually change the key with iwconfig before using the tools?
[04:56] <sheil> Yeah, my data is already backed up on an external drive at home
[04:56] <ic56> !gparted
[04:56] <sheil> Thanks again to both of you!
[04:57] <KenSentMe> evoz: Skype is in the repo's so installing shouldn't be a problem
[04:57] <aCiD2> Hi everyone! Having some problems with partitioning. Basically, I (atm) have a 120gb hdd with 3 ntfs partitions, 1 xp, 1 "data" and 1 vista beta. I want to install Ubuntu over the vista one (so delete it, and recreate as a / partition, and a swap), but the ubuntu partition tool is giving me some problems...
[04:57] <alchemist> jimmy89: then maybe the AP isn't really using that key ;)
[04:57] <itai> its /dev/hda3 but do i need to add " chainloader"...
[04:57] <KenSentMe> !tell evoz about skype
[04:57] <aCiD2> It shows up as 120gb unallocated space
[04:57] <jimmy89> alchemist: the ap is using a key that is defined in key#2
[04:57] <Linuturk> Does the USB version of the CueCat barcode scanner work with Ubuntu 6.06?
[04:57] <aCiD2> Partition magic crashes, and windows xp partitioner shows the drive as a 1.5tb drive, with 700gb of unallocated space
[04:57] <jimmy89> alchemist: the client must have the matching key in key#2
[04:57] <KenSentMe> evoz: read the links ubotu sent you
[04:57] <aCiD2> I think my partition table is foozled, any ideas on "restoring" it?
[04:57] <jimmy89> alchemist: its really an annoying system that the school has implemented
[04:58] <wildman> aCiD2: can u try that HD on another machine?
[04:58] <jimmy89> alchemist: been giving me grief today trying to connect to the network
[04:58] <Noahj> How do I cancel my next-to-latest shipit request? I changed my address right after requesting and didn't get around to ordering them here yet...
[04:58] <aCiD2> wildman, fraid not, only 1 hd
[04:58] <alchemist> jimmy89: then you probably are going to have to program the keys with iwconfig and select that way or through /etc/network/interfaces
[04:58] <aCiD2> ermm
[04:58] <aCiD2> computer :P
[04:58] <ic56> tonedahl: Try reading the gparted documentation.  See if you can get more info.  Seriously, partition resizing is always a risky task.
[04:58] <aCiD2> It works fine though, and boots fine, etc
[04:58] <Frogzoo> sheil: STOP!! come back!!
[04:58] <wildman> aCiD2: strange...
[04:58] <rapha> Hi all!
[04:58] <itai> snoops, vista is not that importnat to me....will post on the forum about it
[04:59] <jimmy89> alchemist: if thats what i have to do, i guess i have no choice
[04:59] <itai> thanks for help
[04:59] <sheil> Frogzoo:  Yes?!
[04:59] <sheil> Frogzoo:  What's wrong?
[04:59] <tonedahl> ic56, it sais everywhere that it's not a risky task
[04:59] <manuel_> sorry a connection problem...if you wrote something please repeat
[04:59] <jimmy89> alchemist: is the correct command "iwconfig ath0 key xxxxxxx [2]  to define it as key 2?
[04:59] <alchemist> jimmy89: I've never seen a system that depends on a specific key in a specific slot, so I'm about ut of ideas ;)
[04:59] <evoz> anyone know how to install anythin at all in Ubuntu?
[04:59] <Spec> tonedahl: You should most certaintly back your data up before resizing a partition :)
[04:59] <wildman> aCiD2: if you boot with the LiveCD and run fdsik on that disk, then option 'p' (print partitions), what do you get?
[04:59] <wildman> aCiD2: the same schema as above?
[04:59] <alchemist> jimmy89: that's it afaik
[04:59] <Spec> tonedahl: i speak from years of experience, not documentation :p
[04:59] <aCiD2> I can't fdisk
[04:59] <Frogzoo> sheil: the size isn't right - does 60gig sound about right?
[04:59] <NoUse> !tell evoz about install
[04:59] <aCiD2> It just said "unable to access /dev/hdb"
[05:00] <winbond> what does it mean that a driver is bounding only?
[05:00] <tonedahl> Spec, I didn't have space for it obviously :p
[05:00] <jimmy89> alchemist: i know well most people just use key#1 as a default
[05:00] <aCiD2> (Which is my harddrive)
[05:00] <alchemist> jimmy89: and on an atheros chip? urgh
[05:00] <wildman> sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[05:00] <Spec> winbond: bounding or bonding?
[05:00] <wildman> ?
[05:00] <sheil> Frogzoo:  Well I was just going to do what NoUse and RAOF on the Forums said:  'sudo resize2fs -p /dev/hda3'
[05:00] <NoUse> Frogzoo if you just run resize2fs /dev/hdaX it will deftaul to the size of the partition
[05:00] <aCiD2> wildman, yup - did
[05:00] <jimmy89> alchemist: yeah atheros
[05:00] <NoUse> sheil I think that command will wokr
[05:00] <winbond> Spec: bonding, sry
[05:00] <sheil> Frogzoo:  Yeah, exactly what NoUse said :)(
[05:00] <alchemist> jimmy89: dapper uses madwifi by default, so it may be a bit grumpy
[05:00] <Spec> winbond: bonding means taking two ethernet interfaces and making them act as one, to get double the throughput
[05:00] <wildman> aCiD2: hmm...
[05:00] <ic56> tonedahl: well, what do I know?  I've never trusted partition re-sizing tools.  That's kept me safe but it also makes me inexperienced.  Maybe others can advise.
[05:00] <sheil> Frogzoo:  Except with a different hda#
[05:00] <aCiD2> I know :/
[05:01] <dkr> can assign kb shortcuts to arbitrary commands somewhere?
[05:01] <aCiD2> I might try the ubuntu live cd, see if I can fdisk on that?
[05:01] <aCiD2> ermm
[05:01] <aCiD2> gentoo*
[05:01] <jimmy89> alchemist: well its working fine now on my home network
[05:01] <alchemist> jimmy89: madwifi-ng or ndiswrapper might work better. but wpasupplicant is patched to use madwifi and not madwifing
[05:01] <winbond> Spec: ok, ty
[05:01] <wildman> aCiD2: I get that same message if I try to access a non-existing device...
[05:01] <tonedahl> I hope others can :(
[05:01] <alchemist> jimmy89: heh
[05:01] <wildman> aCiD2: are you completely sure it's hdb?
[05:01] <aCiD2> wildman, yea, I tried all /dev/hd* to make sure
[05:01] <jimmy89> alchemist: its just the annoying key#2
[05:01] <wildman> aCiD2: wait plz
[05:02] <tonedahl> Gparted destroyed my ntfs partition. How do I fix it again?
[05:02] <ic56> tonedahl: are you sure the "not risky" designation applied to NTFS partitions?  I can see how resizing FAT partitions could be considered routine (even though, you should *still* backup -- a power failure would screw you for sure)
[05:02] <Frogzoo> sheil: NoUse k, look good
[05:02] <aCiD2> The Ubuntu partitioner shows /dev/hdb with the 118gb unpartitioned space, so it is hdb by the looks of things
[05:02] <alchemist> jimmy89: dunno. I usually just put whatever in slot 1 and boom, no problems
[05:02] <wildman> aCiD2: dmesg | grep hdb
[05:02] <wildman> aCiD2: does it list your harddisk model/make?
[05:02] <brazil_word_cup> hello guys, it's necessary to change EXTRAVERSION in Makefile to compile kernel modules ?
[05:03] <jimmy89> alchemist: yeah as is generally the case, just hard to find any info on using anything other then key#1, google dosn't show anything helpful
[05:03] <sheil> Ok, thanks again guys!
[05:03] <brazil_word_cup> for example: I've the kernel: 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[05:03] <brazil_word_cup> /usr/src/linux/Makefile:
[05:03] <brazil_word_cup> ERSION = 2
[05:03] <brazil_word_cup> PATCHLEVEL = 6
[05:03] <brazil_word_cup> SUBLEVEL = 12
[05:03] <brazil_word_cup> EXTRAVERSION =
[05:03] <brazil_word_cup> NAME=Woozy Numbat
[05:03] <aCiD2> I'm gonna have to boot into the live cd first, I'll be back in about 5
[05:03] <Frogzoo> brazil_word_cup: bad bad bad
[05:03] <aCiD2> So, I'm not just running away :)
[05:03] <wildman> aCiD2: k
[05:03] <alchemist> jimmy89: although now that I've got the ndiswrapper+nm+wpa thing corrected (I think) I can poke at it tonight.
[05:03] <winbond> Spec: do you know how to update a lancard driver
[05:03] <tonedahl> ic56, see Is it safe? Here http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsresize
[05:03] <ic56> Seeing as the issue came up... does Windows come with partition resizing sw?  or are there 3rd party commercial non-Linux sw that?
[05:03] <alchemist> jimmy89: file a bug on launchpad, pm me the number and I'll see if I can poke at it
[05:04] <jimmy89> alchemist: can you make / mod a program?
[05:04] <wildman> ic56: partition magic
[05:04] <Spec> winbond: nope, sorry.
[05:04] <Yagisan> ic56: no. you buy it seperatly
[05:04] <alchemist> jimmy89: I can
[05:04] <alchemist> jimmy89: just not here - I'm at work and my test rig is at home ;)
[05:04] <jimmy89> alchemist: so you think you could make a gui to allow you to input the key number?
[05:05] <ArtVandalae> Hi, is there any reason why changes to xorg.conf are ignored (or at least they seem to be). I'm using Dapper
[05:05] <alchemist> jimmy89: I'm not quite there yet.
[05:05] <snoops> how are you making changes ArtVandalae?
[05:05] <alchemist> jimmy89: but I can probably figure out how/where thigns aren't working quite right and put together a fix
[05:05] <ArtVandalae> sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:05] <snoops> (you need to restart xorg for changes to take effect)
[05:05] <jimmy89> alchemist: well ill try the iwconfig method tomorrow
[05:05] <ArtVandalae> Yep, done. Ctrl+Backspace works?
[05:06] <ArtVandalae> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace I think
[05:06] <alchemist> jimmy89: that should work, and if you file a bug maybe a longer-term fix can be put into place
[05:06] <jimmy89> alchemist: it could just be a matter of commenting out the lines when im at home, and then enabling them at school
[05:06] <Frogzoo> ArtVandalae: you should see X shutdown & restart - then X will reread the config
[05:06] <alchemist> jimmy89: there has to be a cleaner way, though
[05:07] <ArtVandalae> Hm.. what's the alternative: init 3?
[05:07] <Frogzoo> ArtVandalae: there is none in debian - all runlevels default to same as rc2
[05:07] <ic56> tonedahl: did you read the FAQ?  there's mention of some checks that are done *before* it starts mucking around.  If the error you saw is from one of these checks, then maybe the problem you are having is unrelated to teh partition resizing
[05:07] <jimmy89> alchemist: you would think, like my drivers on xp for it just have a nice little thing asking which key is this
[05:08] <alchemist> jimmy89: yeah. it's p[robably in there somewhere, just a matter fo finding it
[05:08] <dEUZ> hello
[05:09] <Frogzoo> dEUZ: noone here but us chickens
[05:09] <jimmy89> alchemist: hey mate im going to edit my /interfaces file and leave it commented out now, can i send the lines to you to check them ?
[05:09] <AK7> quiz question: in top, what does wa mean?
[05:09] <Linuturk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143421&highlight=cuecat << i'm the last post in this thread here. Can someone provide assistance?
[05:09] <alchemist> jimmy89: you can,. but I'm not the expert ;)
[05:10] <Frogzoo> AK7: man top
[05:10] <jimmy89> alchemist: lol well better then me just doing it , been on ubuntu for 24 hours now :P
[05:10] <Code_PC> hi
[05:10] <woei> hmm, I have this strange recollection of a command line program that lets you change the group of newly created files. If user baz is member of group foo (default) and bar, then normally a file is created as baz:foo, but that command (that I can't remember by name) allowed for baz:bar
[05:11] <Code_PC> can someone please outline the differences between the 64-bit and 32-bit versions of ubuntu?
[05:11] <AK7> frogzoo: I gave up on about the 12th page
[05:11] <dEUZ> antone frome sweden i need help to change my terminallanguage to swedich?
[05:12] <Hoxzer> Yeah
[05:13] <aCiD2> ok wildman, I get this (well, a lot of this, but I'll paste a line)
[05:13] <aCiD2> [4294826.070000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 0
[05:13] <Hoxzer> U guys know any way to fix crashing programs (after upgrade) than do reinstall and backup everything?
[05:13] <kokoko1> hi, can somone confirm is 'tablix' and pvm avialable from ubuntu repo?
[05:14] <Frogzoo> AK7: fair point, methinks it's io wait
[05:14] <AK7> kk thx
[05:15] <AK7> so hardware then?
[05:15] <wildman> aCiD2: here
[05:15] <nathanael> I have been unable to find WALL in the repositories
[05:16] <jimmy89> alchemist: #ath0 / #iface ath0 inet dhcp / #iwconfig essid obiairlan / #iwconfig key DFA76352aebdc6209923AF7924 [2] 
[05:16] <nathanael> IS there a place ot get this classic package?
[05:16] <jimmy89> alchemist: / = new line
[05:16] <NoUse> Hoxzer what programs are crashing?
[05:16] <octan> this command show me how much bytes that has been transfered out from eth0 no matter what app thats sending?  /sbin/ifconfig eth0 |grep "TX bytes" |awk '{print $2}' | sed 's/bytes://'
[05:16] <octan> *will this
[05:16] <wildman> aCiD2: that's the output of dmesg | grep hdb ?
[05:16] <alchemist> jimmy89: those are the right commands. not sure if it's proper syntax for interfaces
[05:16] <aCiD2> There's a lot of that, but it's all the same
[05:17] <aCiD2> But different sectors
[05:17] <eyequeue> nathanael, what is it?
[05:17] <aCiD2> maybe, fsck?
[05:17] <nathanael> WALL it's a prog for sending messages to all user logged into terminal sessions on a box
[05:17] <jimmy89> alchemist: what syntax
[05:17] <jimmy89> alchemist: what syntax's do you think are wrong?
[05:17] <eyequeue> nathanael, ah, now i recall
[05:17] <wildman> aCiD2: fsck doesn't work for NTFS
[05:18] <aCiD2> ahh
[05:18] <nathanael> but apt-get install {WALL|wall} gets me nothing
[05:18] <wildman> someone suggested ntfstools above
[05:18] <ic56> !ntfstools
[05:18] <Hoxzer> NoUse: nautilus
[05:18] <aCiD2> They did?
[05:18] <Hoxzer> at least :D
[05:18] <alchemist> jimmy89: if that's a shell script it'll work, but AFAIK, that's not the right way to specify in /etc/network/interfaces. I could be wrong, because I'm not hacking that file
[05:18] <aCiD2> Didn't see that :)
[05:18] <Hoxzer> Gedit is second one
[05:18] <wildman> aCiD2: yeah, ntfstools
[05:18] <Frogzoo> AK7: are you seeing wa != 0 ?
[05:18] <Hoxzer> and they all crash when Id o something
[05:18] <aCiD2> ok
[05:18] <jimmy89> hmm
[05:18] <Hoxzer> also soem programs dont just start (like vmWare)
[05:19] <jimmy89> alchemist: well thats what ive got in /etc/network/interfaces atm.
[05:19] <Hoxzer> and Synapic is complaining about something
[05:19] <aCiD2> is ntfstools the program name, or the package? I have ntfsfix, amongst others
[05:19] <wildman> aCiD2: testing the disk on a different computer would help a lot...
[05:19] <aCiD2> wildman: Im sure... but there is saddly no way to do so :(
[05:19] <wildman> geez
[05:19] <wildman> aCiD2: pkg name for all I know
[05:20] <ic56> !tell aCiD2 about ntfstools
[05:20] <aCiD2> heh, ok
[05:20] <NoUse> Hoxzer are you sure everything got upgraded?
[05:20] <aCiD2> thanks, ic56
[05:20] <wildman> aCiD2: wish u the best of lucks ;)
[05:20] <alchemist> jimmy89: go read /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian
[05:20] <aCiD2> hahah
[05:20] <alchemist> jimmy89: that shoudl explain it
[05:20] <NoUse> Hoxzer 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade'
[05:20] <octan> gnomefreak, u look like your a smart guy.. i have a Q for U.. will ethX record all trafic "in bytes"  thats been going out | in from the ethX card?
[05:20] <Hoxzer> NoUse: I'm using auto upgrade
[05:20] <NoUse> Hoxzer I know
[05:20] <Hoxzer> ok, lets test
[05:20] <NoUse> Hoxzer just run that command and see what it says
[05:20] <eyequeue> nathanael, sudo apt-get install bsdutils
[05:21] <whadar> hello how can i allow windows users write to my shared folder?
[05:21] <Frogzoo> whadar: samba
[05:21] <eyequeue> bsdutils: /usr/bin/wall
[05:21] <whadar> i know but it is readonly...
[05:22] <kane77> WARNING: SDL library not found ... What is it and where can I get it???
[05:22] <KenSentMe> !tell whadar about samba
[05:22] <KenSentMe> check that
[05:22] <eyequeue> !sdl
[05:22] <ubotu> eyequeue: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:22] <Linuturk> where should I go for support on Xserver?
[05:22] <whadar> thanks
[05:23] <jimmy89> alchemist: wireless-key<number> <key>
[05:23] <jimmy89> alchemist: i think thats what i could be looking for
[05:24] <alchemist> jimmy89: yup
[05:24] <alchemist> jimmy89: I think so too
[05:24] <Hoxzer> Nouse: http://pastebin.de/7529
[05:25] <NoUse> Hoxzer run 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[05:25] <jimmy89> alchemist: so still the same essid command? and now i put that wireless-key<number> <key> line in instead of the other key line?
[05:25] <alchemist> jimmy89: yeah, AFAIK
[05:25] <Hoxzer> NouSe: and all of those apps?
[05:25] <alchemist> jimmy89: remember this is new territory for me too ;)
[05:25] <NoUse> Hoxzer we'll get to them
[05:26] <jimmy89> meh no harm in trying
[05:26] <antura> what's the difference between free and available disk space in gnome system monitor?
[05:26] <jimmy89> alchemist: could just mean another xp day
[05:26] <eyequeue> jimmy89, seeing what you're asking about, i hust have one additional fact for you
[05:26] <alchemist> jimmy89: tru dat
[05:27] <jimmy89> alchemist: what?
[05:27] <zeelot> hi there , is there any one install xgl+compiz for xubuntu and have a success?
[05:27] <Hoxzer> I'm getting kinda same error
[05:27] <eyequeue> jimmy89, those wireless commands are sometimes order-sensitive in /etc/network/interfaces (could be dependendent on driver?)
[05:27] <alchemist> jimmy89: sorry, US slang "True That" or "that'll work too"
[05:27] <Zambezi> Wish me good luck. Now I'm finally ready for migrate to Linux. I just need to transfer my backup to another computer, when I erase XP. ;-)
[05:28] <jimmy89> alchemist: ah us aussies are a bit slow on that :p
[05:28] <eyequeue> jimmy89, if it doesn't work and you think it should, try experimenting with another order
[05:28] <Hoxzer> http://pastebin.de/7532
[05:28] <Hoxzer> Nouse: http://pastebin.de/7532
[05:28] <alchemist> jimmy89: ah, right. I'll adjust ,y slang acordingly in the future ;)
[05:28] <[Ex0r] > does ubuntu let you do a hard drive install? I downloaded the desktop iso and it's running it as a live cd
[05:29] <snoops> yes [Ex0r] 
[05:29] <eyequeue> exor, see that install icon on the desktop?
[05:29] <[Ex0r] > of ubuntu ?
[05:29] <eyequeue> exor, yes
[05:29] <[Ex0r] > it hasn't leaded up yet. It's still going through the live-cd start
[05:29] <[Ex0r] > loaded*
[05:29] <asad1> hey, can anyone help me configure my wireless? I have my card working, I just do not know where to go from there...
[05:30] <erchache> hi
[05:30] <eyequeue> exor, alternatively, there is an install option or two from the boot menu
[05:30] <erchache> anybody of freedom toaster team here?
[05:30] <erchache> i dont know if svn repositorie are up
[05:30] <[Ex0r] > I thought I selected one that said install, and it starting loading up user profile, et
[05:30] <_Mr_Denix_> hello ! how can I install rpm files under ubuntu ? i tried rpm -i filename and it does not work !? thanks
[05:31] <erchache> _Mr_Denix_: use alien to convert into .deb
[05:31] <NoUse> Hoxzer try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a' and then 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[05:31] <_Mr_Denix_> ercache i did so and i have a deb but when i try to install deb says error could not find package
[05:31] <kane77> WARNING: SDL library not found ... What is it and where can I get it???
[05:31] <azathothgr> I'm trying to install dapper from a hard disk, w/o a cd drive .. There was a guide in ubuntu wiki about that.. can anyone help?
[05:32] <erchache> azathothgr: see on google
[05:32] <snoops> way to make life hard..
[05:32] <postangcslv> kane77: http://www.libsdl.org/index.php
[05:32] <erchache> _Mr_Denix_: see on google look for ubuntu rpm howto
[05:32] <zenithsglint> Hi everyone, I need a good grammar checker because I am applying for a job that wants to see an example of my writing skills... the Abiword does not seem to be working with Dapper :-/ ... what should I do?
[05:32] <_Mr_Denix_> erchache  thank you
[05:32] <[Ex0r] > ...
[05:33] <NoUse> Hoxzer have you used automatix?
[05:33] <jimmy89> alchemist: so how do i report a bug, i signed up at launchpad
[05:33] <[Ex0r] > You want somebody else to get you a job ?
[05:33] <erchache> :-P
[05:33] <kane77> ./libGL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory / ref_gl::R_Init() - could not load "libGL.so" .... How can I solve it??
[05:33] <alchemist> jimmy89: there shoudl be a link on the left nav menu
[05:33] <jimmy89> alchemist: i cant see a submit bug number
[05:33] <Hoxzer> NoUse: no
[05:33] <AK7> asad1: you still around?
[05:33] <azathothgr> i did almost everything in that guide, it boots, but doesn't find the partition where the image is dumped
[05:33] <zenithsglint> I can write very well, grammar checkers are simply a tool... you know... tool use separates us from the apes ;-)
[05:33] <alchemist> jimmy89: you'll need to create a new bug
[05:33] <NoUse> Hoxzer ok, any luck with those previous commands?
[05:34] <[Ex0r] > wow, ubuntu runs slow on vmware
[05:34] <alchemist> brb, need to actually o my real job for a sec ;)
[05:34] <snoops> what doesn't run slow on vmware!
[05:34] <Hoxzer> NoUse: just testing
[05:34] <erchache> on vmware all runs slooooooooooowwwwwww
[05:34] <[Ex0r] > lol
[05:34] <[Ex0r] > im trying to play with it to get used to it before I install over windows
[05:34] <erchache> emules a PII at 18 MHz...suuuuper cool :-P
[05:35] <erchache> use a livecd
[05:35] <eyequeue> kane77, sudo apt-get libsdl1.2debian
[05:35] <[Ex0r] > hmm, i suppose I could use the livecd
[05:35] <eyequeue> ii  libsdl1.2debia 1.2.9-0.0ubunt Simple DirectMedia Layer
[05:35] <[Ex0r] > does it put anything on the hdd ?
[05:35] <erchache> [ex0r] : use a livecd instead vmware weird
[05:36] <[Ex0r] > i'm getting ready to test the livecd, bbl
[05:36] <Luke> is the ubuntu server install CD just the regular ubuntu without the livecd stuff?
[05:36] <azathothgr> can I modify the casper script or some other script to mount the image instead of looking for a cdrom ?
[05:36] <NoUse> Luke no
[05:36] <AK7> there's a server install cd?
[05:36] <eyequeue> Luke, no
[05:36] <NoUse> !tell luke about server
[05:36] <erchache> no
[05:36] <KenSentMe> AK7: yes
[05:36] <AK7> huh, never knew that
[05:36] <Luke> NoUse: thanks
[05:37] <eyequeue> Luke, there's different pckages, and a LAMP option
[05:37] <erchache> well....its same install cd....but you need to put on boot: server
[05:37] <eyequeue> erchache, no, it is a differernt cd
[05:37] <erchache> eyequeue:  explain this dapper server feature
[05:37] <erchache> its on other cd? :-S
[05:37] <erchache> i dont know that
[05:37] <erchache> where is repositorie?
[05:37] <eyequeue> !server
[05:37] <jimmy89> alchemist: i must be blind, i cant see a button to create a bug
[05:37] <erchache> on boot
[05:38] <erchache> or iso repositorie?
[05:38] <eyequeue>  Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a smp kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerFaq/
[05:38] <NoUse> !enter
[05:38] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:38] <sshrdp> hi, How can I use import to take a screenshot from a remote computer?
[05:38] <eyequeue> erchache, all ubuntu cds use the same repositories
[05:38] <erchache> yuuggghhh
[05:38] <jimmy89> alchemist: nvm, i had to be on the ubuntu page first :p
[05:39] <erchache> yepa...you say truth
[05:39] <erchache> but i use old method.....install desktop....and use boot:server
[05:39] <erchache> i dont receive dapper cd yet :-P
[05:40] <NoUse> Hoxzer anything?
[05:40] <Spaceraverlinux> hey guys... when i try to install libdvdcss2 it says that the package isnt available or has been made obsolete???
[05:40] <apokryphos> erchache: it takes 4+ weeks
[05:40] <joel> is there a way to break the DRM on my itunes music so I can play them in ubunut?
[05:40] <eyequeue> erchache, the new layout is designed to make things easier for those installing from just-cd, but wanting more server-oriented packages, not desktop-oriented packages
[05:40] <apokryphos> Spaceraver: FAQ links to the right place to get it
[05:41] <eyequeue> !tell Spaceraver about seveas
[05:41] <Spaceraverlinux> apokryphos, merci... :D
[05:41] <erchache> eyequeue: on shipit....only says for desktop on dapper.....not server
[05:41] <erchache> why?
[05:41] <erchache> or include....livecd....install....server?
[05:41] <eyequeue> erchache, perhaps shipit is still geared toward desktop user?  i don't know
[05:41] <erchache> i want both for 3 systems
[05:42] <joel> Can I break the DRM on my itunes music to be playable in linux? is this legal?
[05:42] <NoUse> joel yes and it depends on what country you are in
[05:42] <jimmy89> alchemist: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/49600
[05:42] <joel> how do i do it?
[05:42] <eyequeue> joel, "legal" is a question of jurisdiction and other things, asking on irc is like asking for medical advice :)
[05:42] <agmarti> ola
[05:42] <Spec> I've got a column of numbers in the format of: '####k:', and I want to add them all up....how is this easily accomplished? :p
[05:42] <joel> heh, and this rash? :)
[05:43] <eyequeue> joel, i told you she was bad news, heh
[05:43] <erchache> well i think if has two variant for each 3 arch.....must be shipit too
[05:43] <chapium> does anyone know the differences between kfax and gfax?  (other than QT)
[05:43] <alchemist> jimmy89: got it
[05:44] <jimmy89> alchemist: that report detailed or specific enough?
[05:44] <joel> spec if you use python, you can doing someting like this; a = '#### k:' \ a[0]  + a[1]  + a[2]  + a[3]  \ print a
[05:44] <joel> is there a program I can use to break the DRM on itunes purchased music, then?
[05:44] <postangcslv> joel: look into vlc/fairplay
[05:45] <snoops> the problem joel is in itunes you signed a license stating you were okay with the drm and wouldn't break it heh
[05:45] <Spec> joel: i've got thousands of these numbers
[05:45] <Spec> joel: i can use python though
[05:45] <joel> ah, I see.
[05:46] <Spec> and they're different lengths
[05:46] <Spec> ##k:   ###k: ... etc
[05:46] <alchemist> jimmy89: it'll be enough for me to at least expand on it. If I was an actual developer/committer it might not be ;)
[05:46] <eyequeue> joel, let me plug the website groklaw, for geek+law issues, i'm not affiliated with them, just find them informative
[05:46] <Spec> I want to just cut off the "k:" and add them, should be a way
[05:46] <joel> eyequeue thanks for the site!
[05:46] <lotia> so i cannot start a gnome session. if i login and select failsafe terminal, i can log in from gdm, but otherwise, i am unable to start a gnome session
[05:46] <reed> hmm
[05:46] <snoops> different rules apply to different countries of course..hence NoUse stating it depends on the country
[05:46] <lotia> i'm running dapper drake, on amd64
[05:46] <eyequeue> joel, np, they also tend toward :our: slant on things :)
[05:47] <Hoxzer> Nouse: this is taking timeeee
[05:47] <NoUse> joel for example, in the US, I believe its illegal for me to tell you where to get software to break the iTunes DRM
[05:47] <reed> i run an i386, so i'm not sure about your archetecture
[05:47] <NoUse> Hoxzer ok
[05:47] <jimmy89> alchemist: well mate thanks for all your help, hopefully the iwconfig the the wireless-key2 thing will work
[05:47] <NoUse> Hoxzer probably a good sign
[05:47] <Spec> whaaa?
[05:47] <Spec> freedom of speech
[05:47] <Spec> i can tell anyone where to get anything, and it ought to be legal in 'merica :)
[05:47] <jimmy89> alchemist: im going to get some sleep, shool tomorrow
[05:47] <Spec> the act of getting it may be illegal though
[05:47] <alchemist> jimmy89: no worries
[05:47] <eyequeue> Spec, um, far from it
[05:48] <snoops> haven't heard of the dmca then I guess Spec :)
[05:48] <NoUse> Spec Freedom of Speech? Why are you helping the terrorists?
[05:48] <eugman> Anyone know of a good todo program? I've got a bunch of things I need to take care of and a list and reminders would help alot.
[05:48] <Spec> i knew it :-/
[05:48] <Spec> :p
[05:48] <reed> has any1 figured out how to set up a DWL-520 wireless card?
[05:48] <reed> i tried in breezy, but not in dapper
[05:48] <reed> yet
[05:49] <Mastastealth> eugman: gtodo? :D
[05:49] <snoops> I find the dmca pretty hilarious actually.. a cryptologist found a HUGE flaw in the new blu-ray/hd-dvd hdmi/hdcp copy protection.. but because of the dmca he can't publish his results for fear of being imprisoned in america
[05:49] <Mastastealth> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=todo&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[05:49] <joel> spec you can create a program that will find the lenght of the string, then use the appropriate numbers. for instance it could look like ; a = ####k:  \ len of a = b \ for i in b \ at[i]   + a[1]  \ print, etc.
[05:50] <eugman> thanks
[05:50] <Spec> yeah, lenght of string -2
[05:50] <joel> spec something like that :)
[05:50] <Spec> i think strings have length methods
[05:50] <eyequeue> reed, i find this on google: usr/share/etherboot/dwl520.rom.gz admin/etherboot [universe]  ...
[05:50] <reed> thnx
[05:51] <joel> spec and if you use Numeric (import numeric) it becomes easier!
[05:51] <Spaceraverlinux> okay this is wierd... now i cant use my dvd drive at all... :/
[05:51] <eyequeue> reed, sounds like that package might at least be worth investigating, no personal experience though
[05:51] <reed> ahh, not the right 1
[05:51] <reed> mine's made by D-link
[05:51] <reed> took me to some USRobotics site
[05:51] <eyequeue> reed, do you know if they used a different chipset?  if not, :)
[05:52] <TokenBad> what do I need to install to get my scanner working in ubuntu?
[05:52] <reed> idk
[05:52] <Mastastealth> !sane
[05:52] <ubotu> Mastastealth: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:52] <reed> wat'd u google
[05:52] <Stormx2> Hey folks. Just installed XP (first time on XP), and it has overwritten grub. i want to use the Super GRUB install disc, and it is in a .iso.bz2. How do get it to just a .bz2? I miss ubuntu already :(
[05:52] <reed> i'm going to try it
[05:52] <ruggy> from what distro did you all convert to ubuntu from?
[05:52] <Mastastealth> ruggy: Knoppix
[05:52] <eyequeue> reed, "dwl-520 dapper"
[05:52] <reed> ok
[05:53] <joel> eyequeue: what was the name of the geek-law website again please?
[05:53] <spikeb> groklaw
[05:53] <NoUse> Stormx2 there is a good wiki guide for recovering grub
[05:53] <web_designer> Mastastealth: Knoppix is junk, its only in German
[05:53] <eyequeue> reed, hit was http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=etherboot&version=dapper&arch=i386&page=7&number=50
[05:53] <NoUse> !tell Stormx2 about grub
[05:53] <eyequeue> joel, groklaw
[05:53] <TokenBad> what do I need to install to get my scanner working in ubuntu?
[05:53] <Frogzoo> !recoveringgrub
[05:53] <ubotu> well, recoveringgrub is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:53] <joel> eyequeue ah yes, thanks.
[05:53] <Mastastealth> web_designer: no its not, and its actually pretty good. Either way, i said i CAME from Knoppix, Ubuntu is better :p
[05:54] <Stormx2> NoUse yeah but it doesn't cover extracting the .bz2 file ;)
[05:54] <reed> thnx, i'll try it
[05:54] <spikeb> i've used a bunch of distros
[05:54] <spikeb> last os i used before ubuntu was osx though
[05:54] <web_designer> Mastastealth - Ubuntu is the Best
[05:54] <NoUse> Stormx2 bunzip2 file.bz2
[05:54] <apokryphos> tried out Mandriva yesterday; it was disappointing I'm afraid
[05:55] <Mastastealth> there's knoppix in english here: http://knoppix.net/
[05:55] <web_designer> Mastastealth: ok
[05:55] <hawke_> ..has anyone else had the experience of 'passwd' totally ignoring the pam auth section?
[05:55] <reed> A HAHAHAHA FINALLY SUPPORT FOR MY WIRELESS CARD....IN LINUX!!!!!!!!!!1
[05:56] <erchache> reed: congratulations! :-D
[05:56] <ranpha> hi, if i'm correct ubunti 6.06 installs acpi default. But i got two laptops that ned apm instead of apci. Both als freeze when i run azureus, amule and firefox togethr (was no problem under debain sarge) (all the same version programs) how can i uninstall acpi and install or activate APM?
[05:56] <bobjones_> hi all Iam new to ubuntu, iam trying to find the options to enable pppoe?  in fc4 the network manager had an add button that ennabled you to set pppoe, but the ubuntu one is missing the add button?
[05:56] <reed> idk
[05:57] <erchache> you can sniff all wireless nets of your neighbourhoods with kismet now :-P
[05:57] <reed> when i look at it again, i think it's for the router support
[05:57] <reed> instead of the card
[05:57] <eyequeue> ranpha, at boot, i believe you can add "noacpi" to the command line
[05:58] <ranpha> eyequeue can you tell me extact whre i need to pu  that in /boot/grub/menu.lst???
[05:58] <reed> oh, 1 more stupid question.... What's the shortcut key for that whole logoff shutdown menu thing
[05:58] <eyequeue> ranpha, to make it permanent?  just a sec
[05:58] <reed> ????
[05:59] <ranpha> also in one of the bios it ays that supend only can be performd by APM and i saw at the package that you need to put apm=on in the kernel parameters
[05:59] <ranpha> thanks eyequeue
[05:59] <eyequeue> ranpha, look for a line similar to this: # kopt=root=/dev/hda6 ro vga=773
[05:59] <jasony> Hi, i installed ubuntu on my laptop this morning. However i cant get it to connect to an external monitor
[05:59] <reed> What's the shortcut for that menu that says logoff, shutdown, restart etc.?
[06:00] <eyequeue> ranpha, append " noacpi" to it (and don't uncomment it)
[06:00] <Red-Sox> Hi
[06:01] <ranpha> found it eyequeue just noacpi..... and do i ned to put acpi=off or apm=on anywhere?
[06:01] <Red-Sox> my install cd always freezes up after 'starting the partitioner' only on this one computer, SuSE installed fine and I've tried shipits and self- burned isos
[06:01] <eyequeue> ranpha, i thought it was noacpi, but if that doesn't work, experiment with the other
[06:01] <Red-Sox> FreeBSD installed fine as well
[06:01] <reed> c'mon u guys
[06:01] <ranpha> okay....will come back after some reboots ten
[06:02] <reed> shortcut key for shutdown menu is......
[06:02] <jasony> Hello
[06:02] <Red-Sox> jasony: hi
[06:02] <Frogzoo> reed: it's adjustable from gnome kb shortcuts
[06:02] <reed> ok
[06:03] <jasony> Hi Red-Sox: i installed ubuntu on my laptop this morning. However i cant get it to connect to an external monitor
[06:03] <`Inc> I was reading the wireless guide
[06:03] <`Inc> and
[06:03] <`Inc> sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[06:03] <`Inc> doesn't work.
[06:03] <bobjones_> can anyone help me setting up pppoe?
[06:03] <yoshiznit123> `inc, what card do you have?
[06:03] <Frogzoo> bobjones_: sudo pppoeconf
[06:03] <burning_bronx> bobc, just do pppoeconf
[06:03] <burning_bronx> * bobjones_
[06:04] <TokenBad> what do I need to install to get my scanner working in ubuntu?
[06:04] <burning_bronx> and I was beaten to it
[06:04] <`Inc> yoshiznit123: some airforce broadcome shit.
[06:04] <Red-Sox> jasony: Ehm
[06:04] <burning_bronx> TokenBad, what kinda scanner is it?
[06:04] <bobjones_> great thanks !
[06:04] <Red-Sox> jasony: Let's se here...
[06:04] <`Inc>  lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation
[06:04] <`Inc> err
[06:04] <Spec> joel: got it
[06:04] <Guilt> hello.
[06:04] <Spec> joel: for line in lines: a.append(line.split('k')[0] )
[06:04] <Red-Sox> jasony: I'm not on ubuntu ATM but what happens when you try to connext it to an external monitor?
[06:05] <Red-Sox> jasony: And do you have a 'Fn' key
[06:05] <Spec> joel: convert all strings in a into ints and add 'em :)
[06:05] <Guilt> does the alternate install cd feature a graphical installation interface?
[06:05] <TokenBad> burning_bronx, canoscan n6760
[06:05] <Red-Sox> jasony: Pretty much a second key
[06:05] <robert_> blah, my gcc can't create binaries- wtf
[06:05] <`Inc> yoshiznit123: 0000:03:07.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[06:05] <jasony> Red-Sox: Nothing happens, it used to work fine in windows. I press Fn and F4 and it used to just work
[06:05] <burning_bronx> TokenBad, xsane not working for you I'd reckon?
[06:05] <joel> spec ahh, I'm not familair with line.split, what does it do?
[06:05] <jasony> Red-Sox: However nothing happens in ubuntu
[06:05] <TokenBad> burning_bronx, I haven't tried..that is why was asking what I needed to install
[06:06] <burning_bronx> it should be installed already o0;
[06:06] <yoshiznit123> `inc, i have a similar card that works great with ndiswrapper, I never got fwcutter to work
[06:06] <Guilt> does the alternate install cd feature a graphical installation interface?
[06:06] <Spec> joel: it splits the string into two at the seperator, 'k', so 'k\n' is in [1]  and the number (before 'k') is in [0] 
[06:06] <eyequeue> !info xsane
[06:06] <burning_bronx> under applications>graphics>xsane
[06:06] <ubotu> xsane: (GTK+-based X11 frontend for SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy)), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.97-4ubuntu6 (dapper), Packaged size: 255 kB, Installed size: 728 kB
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[06:06] <Guilt> does the alternate install cd feature a graphical installation interface?
[06:06] <Guilt> </SPAM?
[06:06] <Guilt> *>
[06:06] <Spec> joel: string.split.__doc__
[06:06] <Guilt> c'mon guys
[06:06] <Guilt> i'm asking before i dload the ISOs
[06:07] <Guilt> shipit takes .. forever
[06:07] <funkmaster> hey does somebody got flumotion working in ubuntu?
[06:07] <Yagisan> anyone know of an application like fraps for ubuntu ?
[06:07] <eyequeue> Guilt, i know it contains a text-based one, that's the one i chose
[06:07] <snoops> no Guilt, text based only for alternate install
[06:07] <snoops> hence why it's called alternate..
[06:07] <Guilt> okay cool. :)
[06:07] <`Inc> yoshiznit123: is there any easy way to set it up?
[06:07] <`Inc> I'm new with ndis wrapper and don't know how to set it up.
[06:07] <lilbit> can one defrag in linux?
[06:07] <Zambezi> I need to deactive my rootaccount and activate it again. I don't remeber my password. Please help me so I can transfer my backup and migrate.
[06:08] <Guilt> i don't have a problem with text based installs at all. i'm going to get xubuntu-alternate. and i don't wanna install grub to mbr
[06:08] <dkr> hrm, is there a way to assign a keyboard shortcut to an arbitrary command?  (I was thinking like in properties of custom application launcher applet)
[06:08] <Guilt> not by default.
[06:08] <joel> spec ahh, I think i've done something like that using another command. I think it was a.div, but i can't remember :)
[06:08] <cafg10> lilbit; there is no need to do that
[06:08] <Yagisan> lilbit: it's not needed
[06:08] <Guilt>  so that's why i'm going for the alternate install thing :)
[06:08] <ompaul> lilbit, minding the filesystem is the function of the O/S not a userland thing - so you should never need to
[06:08] <cafg10> for ext2/3 partitions
[06:08] <Guilt> i've used breezy install, btw :)
[06:08] <lilbit> Yagisan, ok
[06:08] <jasony> Guilt: I know the dvd version has a graphical install
[06:08] <tyrchyus> ci si aguzza io esco
[06:08] <eyequeue> lilbit, is there a need?  but there used to be something for ext2-only, for those who wanted to
[06:08] <ompaul> !it
[06:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:08] <joel> spec gl! i
[06:09] <Guilt> xubuntu doesn't have a DVD.
[06:09] <ompaul> tyrchyus, turn that away message off now thanks
[06:09] <lilbit> Yagisan, cafg10 eyequeue: I only ask because my HD seems to thrash around a bit.
[06:09] <Guilt> or, the DVD has XFCE?
[06:09] <yoshiznit123> `inc: u'll need ndiswrapper-utils
[06:09] <cafg10> lilbit is it your linux partition?
[06:09] <eyequeue> lilbit, df ... if the fs is rather full you'll get that
[06:09] <yoshiznit123> `inc: then get your driver cd or whatever ready, and type ndiswrapper -i 'path to *.inf file'
[06:09] <Red-Sox> jasony: Try fn + f8
[06:09] <Frogzoo> lilbit: how much ram u got?
[06:09] <`Inc> ok.
[06:09] <Zambezi> How do I active rootaccount?
[06:09] <`Inc> ty
[06:10] <eyequeue> lilbit, df is a command btw
[06:10] <ompaul> !root
[06:10] <Sonderblade> why dont you get bash_completion when you type "gksu something<tab>"?
[06:10] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:10] <lilbit> Yagisan, cafg10 eyequeue: I got 2gigs corsair ram, and 200GB hard drive
[06:10] <jasony> Red-Sox: i'll go give it a try now
[06:10] <Guilt> Zambezi, use sudo
[06:10] <Frogzoo> !tell Guilt about torrent
[06:10] <Guilt> and do: passwd root.
[06:10] <ompaul> Zambezi, you dont need to read that last message from ubotu
[06:10] <NoUse> Hoxzer is that thing still running?
[06:10] <spikeb> !lart Guilt
[06:10] <eyequeue> Guilt, please don't advise that in here
[06:10] <dwight> has anyone had trouble getting amavisd-new to scan for spam on dapper?
[06:10] <PoetaVampiro> hi
[06:10] <cafg10> lilbit maybe you used ext2 in two big partitions
[06:10] <Zambezi> Guilt, ompaul: I need to login with root so I can transfer a backup.
[06:10] <ompaul> eyequeue, --- he should advise using sudo
[06:11] <Yagisan> lilbit: try to keep the disk under about 90% used, or it starts to thrash a bit.
[06:11] <Guilt> hmmm
[06:11] <Guilt> :)
[06:11] <ompaul> Zambezi, no you don't need it read that web page
[06:11] <beowu1f> haveing issues with ssh connection. received signal 11 (no core) . can anyone give me a hand?
[06:11] <ompaul> Zambezi, that is a howto for sudo
[06:11] <lilbit> cafg10, no, I did the auto partitioning with the dapper install, it created one big partition
[06:11] <eyequeue> Zambezi, you can "sudo -s" if you really need to have a root-session
[06:11] <PoetaVampiro> trouble with upgrade from breezy to dapper, reconfiguration on X does not aloud it to start... what to do?
[06:11] <funkmaster> where can i get help concerning flumotion ubuntu?
[06:11] <cafg10> lilbit that is what i wanted to say
[06:12] <yoshiznit123> `inc: or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?action=show&redirect=SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[06:12] <ompaul> and they both wander off to check the web page
[06:12] <lilbit> cafg10, was that a bad thing to do?  To let setup create one big patition?
[06:12] <Frogzoo> lilbit: again, how much ram u got installed...
[06:12] <lilbit> Frogzoo, I got 2 1GB  sticks
[06:12] <Zambezi> ompaul: Thanks. It works. eyequeue, Guilt: It works.
[06:13] <rens> You can yust install 6.06 by the install upgrades
[06:13] <lilbit> Frogzoo,  2GB installed ram
[06:13] <lee_> helo
[06:13] <Guilt> \o/ w00t
[06:13] <Guilt> :)
[06:13] <MrKeuner> hi, why do I get Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. in gnomeBaker
[06:13] <cafg10> lilbit ext2/ext3 have better performance on many partitions one for / , /home , /var, /usr /temp and the swap
[06:13] <Frogzoo> lilbit: did you have a swap partition? if not, consider adding a swap file
[06:13] <Yagisan> lilbit: 1 big partition is fine.
[06:13] <Frogzoo> argh - 1 big partition is a pain
[06:13] <PoetaVampiro> refrasing: how do I configure X on dapper so it uses the old configuration file from Breezy, and, is this the right thing to do?
[06:14] <Guilt> oh, btw.. if the filesystem b0rks, you need the root password to run fsck
[06:14] <lilbit> I do have a swap partition
[06:14] <Guilt> Ubuntu does something about that?
[06:14] <lee_> I've got a cups printer that isn't printing..even when I plug it into the usb port on the computer it doesn't work any ideas/
[06:14] <lilbit> I think I am fine then
[06:14] <espiro> My live CD doesn't seem to be able to start X on my PIII laptop to install. Might I be able to install 5.10 and upgrade with apt?
[06:14] <jasony> Red-Sox: Fn and F8 disables my WLAN adapter. Ive tried all of the other F buttons and they all do something different like disable the touchpad etc
[06:14] <ompaul> Guilt, no you don't
[06:14] <Guilt> ompaul, huh?
[06:14] <ompaul> Guilt, it is patched read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:14] <Guilt> no root password needed for fs recovery?
[06:14] <Frogzoo> lilbit: seems so - if you're working your disk, it's cos it needs to for whatever reason
[06:14] <dxdemetriou> how can I correct my soundcard on Dapper? I think that takes the driver for my tvcard and I haven't sound
[06:14] <Guilt> hmmm
[06:15] <eyequeue> Guilt, it's handled fine, as is booting to "root" in rescue mode
[06:15] <Yagisan> Frogzoo: for new users, it is fine. More advanced users can set up a partition scheme they are happy with
[06:15] <ompaul> Guilt, you have bios if that is what you want and you can use grub passwords if you want
[06:15] <Guilt> well. that's not the point.
[06:15] <Guilt> if i'm using lilo
[06:15] <espiro> Anybody? Will upgrading 5.10 yield the exact same OS as installing dapper?
[06:15] <Frogzoo> Yagisan: until this new user needs to reinstall & clobbers their /home - methinks separate partition for /home should be mandatory
[06:16] <Guilt> and don't keep a bios passwd, it shouldn't matter.
[06:16] <cparker> espiro: I just upgraded from breezy to dapper yesterday... no problems.
[06:16] <Spec> espiro: yes
[06:16] <ompaul> Guilt, so it should be happy also
[06:16] <Yagisan> Frogzoo: and backups should be mandatory
[06:16] <PoetaVampiro> refrasing 2: when dapper installs gdm asks if you want to keep old conf. I said no, now X does not start. Any help?
[06:16] <Frogzoo> Yagisan: well aren't they? ;)
[06:16] <eyequeue> Guilt, if your point was that it can't be done, it can.  if your point was to password protect, doesn't lilo also have a password option?
[06:16] <Guilt> it's just that fsck ought to run without requiring access to the root account. if it can use a group id, it's fine.
[06:16] <cparker> espiro: The only thing to keep in mind is that if you are using certain packages that have been phased out in Dapper, then you'll have a problem.
[06:17] <Yagisan> Frogzoo: we give you the rope, if you choose to hang yourself, so be it
[06:17] <Guilt> eyequeue, i'm saying: fsck ought not to use the 'root' account
[06:17] <`Inc> yoshiznit123: can I just apt-get it?
[06:17] <Inner|RE> what applications does linux have for webpage designing?
[06:17] <Guilt> it can use any sudo-able account
[06:17] <PoetaVampiro> cparker: did you reconfigured gdm?
[06:17] <`Inc> oh and yoshiznit123 it's not an .inf file it's a .sys
[06:17] <Guilt> it should, ideally. and that's not there, i guess?
[06:17] <Yagisan> Frogzoo: nope. well, not outside of business, and even then it's dodgy
[06:17] <cparker> PoetaVampiro: Not manually, no.
[06:17] <`Inc> at least that's all I have.
[06:18] <cparker> Inner|RE: I use Eclipse for all of my Web development. ;)
[06:18] <NoUse> Inner|RE quanta and nvu
[06:18] <Ignite> anybody know why azureus depends on mozilla-browser?
[06:18] <Frogzoo> Yagisan:  and it's a crime - there's a class action against pc makers coming down the pike
[06:18] <PoetaVampiro> cparker: did you accept old config file?
[06:18] <Guilt> if the /etc/fstab fs flags are 1 1 ... you're fucked. you can never recover your ext2 or older fs es
[06:18] <Guilt> unless you boot thru the cd, run fsck manually
[06:18] <aztun> hi
[06:18] <cparker> PoetaVampiro: I just let it do whatever it was going to do by default and ran with it.
[06:18] <Guilt> which, again .. the noob won't do.
[06:18] <Guilt> gaj
[06:18] <bobjones_> thanks pppoe working now :), one more question does ubuntu install iptables? as i dont seem to have any firewall?
[06:18] <Guilt> gah*
[06:19] <Ng> Guilt: mind the language please :)
[06:19] <Guilt> :/ sorry
[06:19] <eyequeue> Ignite, 2.4.0.2-0ubuntu2 doesn't seem to
[06:19] <Yagisan> Frogzoo: from yanks unwilling to take responsibility for the actions (or lack of as the case may be) ?
[06:20] <Ng> Guilt: also, this isn't really the place to be discussing recovery improvements. Feel free to discuss them on the -sounder mailing list, or write a spec of how you believe the default install can be made more resilient - you still have a week or so before the conference to discuss the specs for Edgy :)
[06:20] <ompaul> Guilt, less language, so tell me a new user will not have lilo .. and a new user will not set root, and a new user will be okay, as will an experienced user, and several other protections are available should they be deemed necessary
[06:20] <aztun> I have to install ubuntu on 25 machines without cdrom.........any good tutorial for unattended install by network of ubuntu?
[06:20] <dxdemetriou> Anybody knows can I reload my soundcard? If I have an onboard and pci for example it is easy to choose what I want to use?
[06:20] <Frogzoo> Yagisan: no - from ill informed businesses ruined when their hd clags
[06:20] <Ignite> eyequeue, strange, i installed azureus via synaptic and it installed mozilla-browser also, so i tried removing it and obviously it tries to take azureus with it, nevermind i will just install it from the azureus site into /opt/azureus :D
[06:20] <Frogzoo> Yagisan: there really ought to be warning labels on pcs that hard drives cannot be relied on
[06:20] <Yagisan> Frogzoo: suing people because you choose not to pay attention to maintaining your tools should be tossed out of court
[06:21] <eyequeue> Ignite, let me check... Depends: libbcprov-java (>= 1.32), libgnucrypto-java, libcommons-cli-java, liblog4j1.2-java, libseda-java, libswt3.1-gtk-java, libgtk-java, java-gcj-compat | java2-runtime
[06:21] <Yagisan> Frogzoo: there where (at least when I used to sell them)
[06:21] <Yagisan> s/where/were
[06:21] <Ng> Frogzoo: Yagisan: you guys are pretty off-topic, but from a business point of view, the Sarbanes Oxley rules do pretty much mandate decent backups.
[06:21] <Ignite> eyequeue, that on dapper?
[06:21] <eyequeue> Ignite, *IF* one of those depended on it, it would make sense, but i rather doubt they would, dunno
[06:21] <eyequeue> Ignite, yes
[06:21] <`Inc> yoshiznit123: only Issue I'm having now is getting ndisgtk
[06:21] <Ignite> hrm
[06:21] <Frogzoo> Yagisan: the problem is pc sellers sell the pcs to people who have very little technical knowledge & regard the pc as just another whitegood
[06:21] <`Inc> yoshiznit123: it seems apt-get doesn't have it.
[06:22] <eyequeue> Ignite, Filename: pool/universe/a/azureus/azureus_2.4.0.2-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[06:22] <Inner|RE> hello.. applications for webdesigning?
[06:22] <Yagisan> Frogzoo: that is a problem, as it isn't a "whitegood".
[06:22] <Frogzoo> Yagisan: bingo
[06:22] <Frogzoo> anyways, gotta head - night all
[06:22] <Yagisan> Frogzoo: night
[06:23] <b08y> Inner|RE: NVU
[06:23] <cparker> Inner|RE: Like I said, I use Eclipse for all of my web development.
[06:23] <bobjones_> how do i configure/start iptables?  i dont want to use firestarter
[06:23] <Yagisan> Ng: not familar with Sarbanes Oxley, but you'd think it would be standard business practice. It was covered in my business training, many years ago.
[06:23] <Raito> I'm getting a new computer (a laptop) what are the best things to take note of to make it compatible with Ubuntu very well? Also do I want intergrated graphics or seperate?
[06:23] <Ignite> eyequeue, thanks, its not really important, i didn't actually know azureus was in the repos until today :P
[06:23] <NoUse> Inner|RE like I said, quanta and nvu
[06:23] <palo> Let's say I have a folder which I contains code and cvs info, I recently set up a new cvs server and want to switch it over, but anytime I try to commit the changes to the new server, the info already present tries to commit it to the old one, is there any way to convert a cvs directory tree to a new repository, or do I have to go in manually and pull out the files I need?
[06:23] <J_P> hi all
[06:24] <Yagisan> no one knows of a tool like fraps for ubuntu ?
[06:24] <eyequeue> Ignite, i think it may be new in dapper, breezy used to require special hassles (the one from their site?)
[06:24] <snoops> you may want to look into svn, since it has replaced cvs palo
[06:24] <`Inc> hey doe sanyone else seem to find ndisgtk?
[06:25] <eyequeue> Yagisan, perhaps if you told us what fraps was
[06:25] <cparker> Anyone ever hear of "SIGI" for unattended Ubuntu/Debian network installation?
[06:25] <palo> snoops, I tried setting up an svn server, I can't find a good howto though, and I'm a bit lost with the docs
[06:25] <Ignite> eyequeue, http://azureus.sf.net
[06:25] <Ng> palo: you could go through all the CVS/ folders in the tree and modify them by hand, or you could check out a new copy from the new server and use diff to make a patch
[06:25] <elenayu> how to use oo2 in ubuntu 6.06 on AMD64
[06:26] <MrKeuner> hi, why do I get Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. in gnomeBaker
[06:26] <aztun> I have to install ubuntu on 25 machines without cdrom.........any good tutorial for unattended install by network of ubuntu?
[06:26] <rhyddin> mornin all
[06:26] <Yagisan> eyequeue: an application that can capture opengl to .avi or multiple lossless images such as .png
[06:26] <palo> Ng, the problem is that the only copy is on my computer not the server, there hasn't even been an initial commit yet, I'm still trying to add the files to the new repo
[06:26] <kiroh> do someone know where can i find libdvdc22s and streamer0.10-plugins-ugly pakages????
[06:26] <zippah> hey
[06:27] <_Mr_Denix_> I have installed a deb file and i don't know where to get it from ! i have installed gaim-bonjour-2.0.0-0.beta3.fc4.i386 . can any1 help me ?
[06:27] <zippah> i seem to be having a prob
[06:27] <zippah> i dled the ubuntu desktop cd
[06:27] <zippah> but i cant even find the install option
[06:27] <kiroh> i kant download them with apt-get
[06:27] <NoUse> kiroh you need to enable multiverse and universe for the gstream package
[06:27] <palo> Perhaps I'll just work on the svn server since it makes more sense
[06:27] <TokenBad> does the new ubuntu have a build in firewall I need to know about...I setup proftpd...setup port and all..tried to ftp in..and get connection refused
[06:27] <NoUse> !tell kiroh about repos
[06:27] <kiroh> ok thanks
[06:27] <dapperneil> !ati
[06:27] <ubotu> from memory, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[06:27] <zippah> NoUse: wanna help?
[06:27] <Ignite> zippah, put the CD into your computers cdrom drive then reboot, it will be an icon on your desktop
[06:28] <Ng> palo: well you could just remove all the CVS/ directories and then import it as a new module onto the new server
[06:28] <NoUse> !tell kiroh about dvd
[06:28] <zippah> oh
[06:28] <zippah> ok
[06:28] <zippah> cause
[06:28] <zippah> i cant get it on my crt monitor
[06:28] <zippah> only the telly
[06:28] <palo> Ng, I would but I think it's about time I converted to svn
[06:28] <zippah> dunno why, the display is messed on my crt screen
[06:28] <palo> Ng, It can't be that hard to setup
[06:29] <zippah> should i add vga=771?
[06:29] <elenayu> please does any body know how to use oo2 in ubuntu 6.06 on AMD64
[06:29] <jasony> Is there anybody here that can help me with my laptop's graphics card??????
[06:29] <lwizardl> whats a linux app for converting .mpg videos to h.264 avi's ?
[06:29] <Ignite> zippah, no idea, i'm sure google can help though :)
[06:29] <zippah> aight:)
[06:29] <Yagisan> lwizardl: mencoder
[06:30] <jasony>  Is there anybody here that can help me with my laptop's graphics card??????
[06:30] <zippah> im trying now with no s-video out
[06:30] <zippah> see if that works
[06:30] <ompaul> zippah, why not read wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[06:30] <lwizardl> Yagisan, isn't that part of mplayer
[06:30] <Yagisan> lwizardl: it's in multiverse. installit, open a terminal, and run "info mencoder"
[06:30] <Yagisan> lwizardl: yes
[06:30] <ompaul> zippah, the vga thing should not impact a CRT situation
[06:31] <zippah> hmm
[06:31] <zippah> weird
[06:31] <zippah> wait
[06:31] <ompaul> !enter
[06:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:31] <zippah> worked when i pulled out the s-video cable:)
[06:31] <lwizardl> ok what about dvd to dvd backup?
[06:31] <Libra102> hello
[06:31] <ompaul> zippah, what video card is that?
[06:32] <Libra102> Q. modules load and /etc/rc.local ? or rc.local next modules loaded?
[06:32] <funkmaster> how do i start services in ubuntu?
[06:32] <Libra102> what's first?
[06:32] <zippah> Gainward GeForce 7900GT 256MB
[06:33] <eyequeue> funkmaster, man update-rc.d explains
[06:33] <ompaul> zippah, thanks, I will try to temember that
[06:33] <snoops> great card zippah.. I couldn't be happier with my 7900GT :)
[06:33] <winbond> does anyone know hot to permanently set the mtu size so it doesnt reset on reboot?
[06:33] <Guilt> eh
[06:33] <devlin> how long should it take to repartition a 80G drive during installation. Its supposedly has been at it for a while now but no drive light activity is  showi
[06:33] <Guilt> cat something in rc local
[06:33] <calisee> Can someone explain to me how to set the resolution of an external monitor I have connected to my laptop?  The screen is a bit off.  I'm guessing adding something in the MOnitor section of xorg.conf?
[06:33] <Guilt> or store your procfs somewhere.
[06:33] <funkmaster> eyequeue:thx
[06:34] <NoUse> devlin shouldn't take very long
[06:34] <eyequeue> funkmaster, np
[06:34] <seg`fault> hi
[06:34] <devlin> NoUse: thanks...will try to restart the installer then...must be hung..
[06:34] <seg`fault> hay i can't boot my lovely ubuntu
[06:34] <zippah> snoops, i know:) very nice card:D
[06:34] <NoUse> devlin how much memory do you have on that machine?
[06:34] <zippah> ompaul, np
[06:35] <zippah> but its just when I have 2 screens enabled
[06:35] <snoops> tried it out with xgl and compiz?
[06:35] <Spaceraverlinux> this is getting very annoying... i try using sudo mount -a to test whether dev/hdc works or not... fstab lists hdc as my cdrom...
[06:35] <Guilt> :o
[06:35] <Guilt> /dev/hda hdb hdc
[06:35] <Guilt> ... hdd
[06:35] <Guilt> :)
[06:35] <buzzed> how do i setup a printer... the printer is connected to an apple airport
[06:35] <Guilt> and there's always sda sdb
[06:35] <zippah> snoops, no, just installing ubuntu now after i upgraded everything so:)
[06:36] <ompaul> Spaceraver, that would be sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[06:36] <ompaul> Spaceraver, with a data iso in it
[06:36] <snoops> ah well, if you need a hand getting it going ask away zippah.. :)
[06:36] <calisee> Can someone explain to me how to set the resolution of an external monitor I have connected to my laptop?  The screen is a bit off.  I'm guessing adding something in the Monitor section of xorg.conf?
[06:36] <robert_> blah, my gcc can't create binaries- wtf
[06:36] <Guilt> Spaceraverlinux, it could be your cdrom is in /dev/scd0 too.
[06:36] <Guilt> :)
[06:36] <Guilt> and ln ed to /dev/cdrom
[06:36] <Spaceraverlinux> i have a data cd in it...
[06:36] <gennz> hey, can anyone help me out? is there any other way to partition disks except for fdisk in ubuntu server edition=
[06:36] <Guilt> oh
[06:36] <Guilt> is that data cd in is09660?
[06:36] <Guilt> u might wanna try udf too.
[06:37] <ToHellWithGA> how can a i grep the entire text source of a project to find matches to a string?
[06:37] <dfgas> why is it that when i go from linux to windows that my time is 5hrs off even though they are set for central time?
[06:37] <Spaceraverlinux> and looking at fstab it says that cdrom should be hdc... its the dapper disc
[06:37] <ToHellWithGA> i have the source in a folder but there are several subfolders and a lot of files
[06:37] <zippah> snoops, ill give you a shout once i get this installed:)
[06:37] <ompaul> Spaceraver, do df and see if it has automagically mounted
[06:37] <renato_> alizze
[06:38] <Spaceraverlinux> none
[06:38] <calisee> Can someone explain to me how to set the resolution of an external monitor I have connected to my laptop?  The screen is a bit off.  I'm guessing adding something in the Monitor section of xorg.conf? (The monitor res differs from laptop res)
[06:38] <dfgas> !utc
[06:38] <ubotu> dfgas: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:38] <Spaceraverlinux> even stated in fstab that it should automount...
[06:38] <robert_> help? heh
[06:38] <gallag_> I need to print several images at once on one sheet of photo paper, how might I do that?
[06:38] <Guilt> dfgas, there must be an option to set the timezone.
[06:38] <eyequeue> dfgas, coordinated universal time
[06:38] <ompaul> Spaceraverlinux, so do >> sudo mount /media/cdrom << and tell me what that says
[06:38] <dfgas> where do i set it from utc to gmt?
[06:39] <renato_> shakira
[06:39] <Spaceraverlinux> device does not exist
[06:39] <eyequeue> dfgas, dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[06:39] <ompaul> dfgas, right click on the clock right choose preferences
[06:39] <MrKeuner> hi, why do I get Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second. in gnomeBaker
[06:40] <gennz> is there any way to access the install ubuntu-thingey when installation is complete? i wanna repartition and don't want to use fdisk.
[06:40] <ompaul> Spaceraverlinux, please check the cables in your machine
[06:40] <Scognito> hi
[06:40] <ompaul> Spaceraverlinux, and the jumper is on slave or master as required
[06:40] <snoops> install what? grub?
[06:40] <Spaceraverlinux> it's a laptop unfortunately
[06:41] <Spaceraverlinux> and i used it to install dapper bout a month ago...
[06:41] <Scognito> hi
[06:41] <Scognito> i cannot run opengl apps on my 6.06
[06:41] <Scognito> seems i can only use mesa
[06:42] <Spaceraverlinux> does libdvdcss2 force a lockdown perhaps??
[06:42] <Scognito> the driver in xorg.conf is "mga"
[06:42] <Scognito> but applications runs slow
[06:42] <ompaul> Spaceraverlinux,  Click on system administration disks
[06:42] <Spaceraverlinux> Scognito, what vid card??
[06:42] <Scognito> matrox g400
[06:42] <Scognito> glxinfo tell this also: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI G400 20050609 AGP 1x
[06:42] <renato_> videos alizee
[06:43] <Scognito> my g400 is 4x
[06:43] <zippah> i seem to be having a small issue here with the partitions preparing.. i try formatting a partition to ext3, but it just comes up as unknown?
[06:43] <Scognito> and i don't want mesa, but opengl
[06:43] <p_masho> anyone know now to restore the original Thunderbird "Icon" ?
[06:43] <Spaceraverlinux> hmmm... sorry... cant help you with a matrox card...
[06:44] <Spec> p_masho: do you have the original icon?
[06:44] <Spaceraverlinux> ompaul... done...
[06:44] <eyequeue> p_masho, overwrite the one in the package with the old one, if you have it somewhere
[06:44] <ompaul> Spaceraver, does it appear thre?
[06:44] <Spaceraverlinux> says it's a harddrive
[06:44] <Spaceraverlinux> yes
[06:44] <Spaceraverlinux> unknown partitions...
[06:44] <p_masho> Spec: no .. dont know where its being "overwritten" ?
[06:44] <Scognito> Spaceraver, btw you use opengl?
[06:44] <psaikido> msyql set up help anyone?
[06:45] <Spaceraverlinux> Scognito, on my other machine yes.... nvidia card
[06:45] <Scognito> ah ok
[06:45] <Spec> p_masho: probably in /usr/share/pixmaps
[06:45] <p_masho> psaikido: whats the problem
[06:45] <Scognito> it is very strange :(
[06:45] <krazykit> Scognito: it looks like you should have direct rendering.
[06:45] <Scognito> i tought matrox mean no problem since good drivers...
[06:46] <eyequeue> p_masho, mozilla-thunderbird: /usr/share/mozilla-thunderbird/icons/default.xpm perhaps?
[06:46] <Scognito> krazykit, i have dri yes
[06:46] <Scognito> it is enabled
[06:46] <ulisse> lo tribe!
[06:46] <krazykit> Scognito: then you have direct rendering.  the matrox isn't too much of a heavy-hitter in the opengl world, as i recall
[06:46] <Spec> eyequeue: oh, sure, give him the correct path, bah.
[06:46] <eyequeue> lol
[06:46] <Scognito> krazykit, shoud i remove dri?
[06:47] <Scognito> i remember when i had debian on my p3 with this card, everything worked
[06:47] <krazykit> Scognito: no.  dri is direct rendering.  do glxinfo|grep rendering
[06:47] <Scognito> so something is changed
[06:47] <afflux> nabend
[06:47] <Spaceraverlinux> ompaul, got any idea?? just wanted to watch dvd's and stuff...
[06:47] <Scognito> krazykit, it is enabled
[06:47] <zippah> hmm.. i cant seem to format any of the partitions i prepare?
[06:47] <krazykit> Scognito: if you get rid of dri, you're back to software rendering
[06:47] <Spaceraverlinux> zippah, bad hdd perhaps??
[06:48] <calisee> Can someone help me change the resolution for my external tft monitor, the resolution differs from my laptop so right now it is off a little?
[06:48] <Spaceraverlinux> have had that same problem...
[06:48] <zippah> no
[06:48] <ranpha> he guys my laptops run ubnunti great. one has 256 and one 380 mb. Bth have similair CPUs. Both are aged t same way. When i run firefox, azureus (any ther bittorrent) and firefox my system becomes slow until freezing point. since both system has the same prblem it has to by ubuntu. I tried noacpi in the kernel paramters any other options?
[06:48] <Scognito> ah ok
[06:48] <zippah> cause it worked with the server edition
[06:48] <syntac> how do i change my screen resolution on the livecd if i only have 1 option to choose from?
[06:48] <zippah> just with this
[06:48] <MrKeuner> !help
[06:48] <Scognito> krazykit, but seems is still have software rendering
[06:48] <ompaul> Spaceraverlinux, well if it thinks it is a hard drive something is wrong as I have DVD CD and two hard drives in this box and it sees them all correct, your libdvd comment is not accurate, it is something else what it is I have no idea but that is not relevent
[06:48] <eyequeue> zippah, are you trying to make a filesystem using mkfs?
[06:48] <keithhhhh> Is there any good video editing and compression programs for Ubuntu?
[06:48] <ulisse> I have sometimes Dapper hanging on boot on "loading hardware drivers", on an asus laptop. Any hint?
[06:48] <Scognito> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI G400 20050609 AGP 1x
[06:49] <zippah> eyequeue: im using the installer gui thingie
[06:49] <Yagisan> keithhhhh: avidemux
[06:49] <krazykit> Scognito: right... mine says OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM 20050225
[06:49] <ompaul> ranpha, wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[06:49] <Bassetts> can someone help with my usplash?
[06:49] <eyequeue> zippah, ah, i've only used the text-based
[06:49] <Spaceraverlinux> ompaul, the wierd thing is that i can install from it... which means it must be working...
[06:49] <keithhhhh> Yagisan:  ok Ill look into it thanks ;)  have you tried it?
[06:49] <darius_> Is there a Tax Preparation solution for Linux?
[06:49] <sladen> Bassetts: you broke it again?
[06:49] <zippah> i can prolly try with mkfs
[06:49] <Bassetts> sladen: trying to make my own image now
[06:49] <krazykit> Scognito: the render string is saying that your matrox is the renderer.  otherwise it would say software rendering.
[06:50] <Yagisan> keithhhhh: oh yes. I'm one of the guys that fixes it when it breaks
[06:50] <ic56> darius: I think so.  for some countries
[06:50] <Bassetts> sladen: i get gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.o -o yourimage-splash.so
[06:50] <keithhhhh> Yagisan:  hehe
[06:50] <Bassetts> sladen: woops wrong thing
[06:50] <ompaul> Spaceraverlinux, when you put the install CD / DVD in it it should mount it and offer to open Synaptic - so you appear to have faulty hardware
[06:50] <darius_> ic56: particularly for the US.  I can't find anything via Google
[06:50] <Scognito> so that string doesn't mean it is using sw rendering?
 Scognito: the render string is saying that your matrox is the renderer.  otherwise it would say software rendering.
[06:50] <eyequeue> zippah, alt-f2 or alt-f3 can probably get yuou a console from within the installer, alt-f1 to get back
[06:50] <Bassetts> sladen: usplash-artwork.c:1: error: syntax error before has
[06:50] <akappa> do you know what mesa is?
[06:50] <calisee> Can someone help me change the resolution for my external tft monitor, the resolution differs from my laptop so right now it is off a little?
[06:50] <kiroh> do someone know where can i find libdvdc22s and streamer0.10-plugins-ugly pakages???? i have all the repositories enabled
[06:50] <ic56> ic56: remind me what you call the ordinary citizen's revenue tax form in the US?
[06:50] <krazykit> Scognito: nope.  your matrox card is doing the work.
[06:51] <kiroh> i cant download them with apt-get
[06:51] <zippah> oh
[06:51] <zippah> ok
[06:51] <burning_bronx> kiroh, they're in.
[06:51] <burning_bronx> you sure you got all repos?
[06:51] <burning_bronx> multiverse?
[06:51] <ompaul> !tell kiroh about restricted
[06:51] <Spaceraverlinux> wierd... and a bad thing... ill reboot and see if it picks up the cd as a boot option... if it doesnt... :/
[06:51] <eyequeue> kiroh, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly - GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set
[06:51] <psaikido> #list
[06:51] <Yagisan> kiroh: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is in multiverse
[06:51] <ranpha> he guys my laptops run ubnunti great. one has 256 and one 380 mb. Bth have similair CPUs. Both are aged t same way. When i run firefox, azureus (any ther bittorrent) and firefox my system becomes slow until freezing point. since both system has the same prblem it has to by ubuntu.  anyone knows about this problem?
[06:52] <eyequeue> kiroh, libdvdcss2 - portable abstraction library for DVD decryption
[06:52] <zippah> the weird thing is
[06:52] <sladen> Bassetts: did you manage to convert the image from png2c ?
[06:52] <burning_bronx> kiroh, I've noticed dapper's default source list doesn't have multiverse in it - it's the same as universe - justa add it
[06:52] <Sh4d0> anyone want to help a noob
[06:52] <krazykit> ranpha: azureus is a java app.  maybe it's using enough memory to start making it swap too much?  maybe try something like bittornado or rtorrent?
[06:52] <NoUse> !helpme
[06:52] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[06:52] <zippah> when i go into system > administration > disks, it shows up correctly
[06:53] <eyequeue> kiroh, you seem to be misspelling the package names
[06:53] <Bassetts> sladen: the first command, yes
[06:53] <calisee> Can someone help me change the resolution for my external tft monitor, the resolution differs from my laptop so right now it is off a little?
[06:53] <ranpha> Krazykit it also happens wit the buildin bittorrent of gnome....does nothing hav to do with azureus
[06:53] <Sh4d0> anyone want to help me with a hardware problem
[06:53] <krazykit> ranpha: and it doesn't happen if you don't do torrents?
[06:53] <krazykit> Sh4d0: just ask the goddam question.
[06:53] <sladen> Bassetts: I think that's where your error probably is
[06:54] <ompaul> Sh4d0, ask the question OF the channel and see what happens
[06:54] <Bassetts> sladen: you think my image is wrong?
[06:54] <kiroh> yes, someone said me , thet this where the pakages i need to play files in totem
[06:54] <sladen> Bassetts: does it have more than 15 colours?
[06:54] <NegativeSpace> Hi, I'm trying to install gDesklets and get:
[06:54] <NegativeSpace>  Depends: libgnutls11 (>=1.0.16) but it is not installable
[06:54] <NegativeSpace>  Depends: libgtop2-5 (>=2.9.4) but it is not installable
[06:54] <Sh4d0> i just did a fresh install, my first time, and i took the box down, changed the vid card and nic, and when i boot, it locks up after loading everything and before i could log in
[06:54] <ulisse> I have sometimes Dapper hanging on boot on "loading hardware drivers", on an asus laptop. Any hint?
[06:54] <NegativeSpace> Any ideas?
[06:54] <Bassetts> sladen: no
[06:54] <Bassetts> sladen: 640x400 right?
[06:54] <sladen> Bassetts: take the image you had yesterday, load that into The GIMP and start modifying it.  Then you know you have something is the correct sizes/colour count to start with
[06:54] <krazykit> NegativeSpace: sounds like you're missing some repos.
[06:54] <sladen> Bassetts: yes
[06:54] <ranpha> nope... but it also happend a few weeks ago when i used vmware. On Sarge there was no problem....therefore it has something to do with ubuntu
[06:55] <Bassetts> sladen: using photoshop
[06:55] <NegativeSpace> krazykit: I'm afraid I'm a newbie -- wha?
[06:55] <krazykit> !tell NegativeSpace about repos
[06:55] <ompaul> Sh4d0, what was the old video card, and what was the new video card
[06:55] <Bassetts> sladen: im trying to change the colors and pretty much the whole thing
[06:55] <NegativeSpace> krazykit: Cheers.
[06:55] <Sh4d0> old is onboard intel gfx, which i can't physically remove, new is a nvidia tnt2
[06:56] <sladen> Bassetts: photoshop reorganises the palette for you.  Which may cause you problems and you'll likely have to reorder the palette afterwards in something like The GIMP
[06:56] <ompaul> Sh4d0, first question is, have you disabled the onboard ?
[06:56] <ranpha> krazykiti nope... but it also happend a few weeks ago when i used vmware. On Sarge there was no problem....therefore it has something to do with ubuntu
[06:56] <Sh4d0> ompaul, no, but video is coming through the tnt2, im not sure how to disable the onboard
[06:56] <Bassetts> sladen: ill try that then, will having the same colour repeated in the palette affect it?
[06:57] <kiroh> ok i have installed the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, but i cant install libdvdcss2, ... i will need this pakage??? because i don't want to play dvd's
[06:57] <krazykit> ranpha: sounds like a networking problem then.  don't know what to say :-/
[06:57] <lwizardl> what do i have to install so that transcode can convert videos to h.264 codec
[06:57] <lwizardl> ?
[06:57] <devlin-7> can anyone tell me why when I try to install Ubuntu I get to the re-partitioner and it fails saying "Failed to create enough space for installation" I am installing on a 80G HD that currently only has 5G used space... I was  going to allocate Ubuntu 40G's
[06:57] <m3> Bonjour ^
[06:57] <eyequeue> kiroh, that one is in seveas repository, unless you have a package that requires it, no
[06:57] <gallag_> Is there any program for neatly printing as many photos in as few pages as possible -- like the windows photo printing wizard?
[06:57] <ranpha> could be i'm using netwrk manager on both laptops with external wireless cards
[06:58] <ranpha> krazykiti could be i'm using netwrk manager on both laptops with external wireless cards
[06:58] <kiroh> (how do tou send me mensages in red???)
[06:58] <renato_> alizee
[06:58] <Stormx2> Oh man I can't restore grub! this is so bad :(
[06:58] <eyequeue> kiroh, red
[06:58] <keithhhhh> Is there any email clients that will download hotmail?
[06:58] <eyequeue> kirox not red
[06:58] <SamJames> In Ubuntu Dapper can anyone tell me how I can edit the menu that appears when I right mouse click on the GNOME desktop?
[06:58] <kiroh> ok i thing i dont have any pakage that requires it
[06:58] <SamJames> I would like to add 'Open Teminal Window' in the first position of the menu.
[06:58] <eyequeue> kiroh, by prepending your irc nick
[06:59] <SamJames> Like in a previous Ubuntu version
[06:59] <ompaul> Sh4d0, that would be a bios issue usually F2 or delete to access it, second up, you might want to look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions, withthe machine on try CTRL + ALT + F1 to see if you get a console login, if so do >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< and choose nv as the driver until you get in, note the other for the onboard card which is your existing setting and then go for that
[06:59] <sladen> Bassetts: no.
[06:59] <AlexC_> Hey,
[06:59] <calisee> Can someone help me change the resolution for my external tft monitor, the resolution differs from my laptop so right now it is off a little?
[06:59] <kiroh> what is prepending ... my english isn't good
[06:59] <Sh4d0> ompaul, thanks, trying that now
[07:00] <AlexC_> Hey,
[07:00] <zippah> there
[07:00] <zippah> i had to do it with gparted no inside the install dialog
[07:00] <eyequeue> kiroh, by putting kiroh at the front of the line
[07:00] <iiiears> Ubuntu is Open Source and so very cool -  Oo-oh Ye-ah!
[07:00] <Bassetts> sladen: you think i should make the image in photoshop then index it and make the palette in gimp?
[07:00] <kiroh> kiroh hola
[07:00] <blkish> hi all:) i'm trying to install java, flash and as many video codecs as possible (wmv etc) onto my new ubuntu 6.06 installation. I have found sun-java5-jre and libflash-mozplugin - will these install the right things to make java+flash work in firefox? i've seen refernces to 'automatix' in the forums related to installing java etc too - should i be using this system instead of apt-get? thanks!
[07:01] <AlexC_> I am wanting to code some applications for Linux. I alerady know how code works etc etc from coding PHP/MySQL - I am just wondering is there anything special I need to do to code for Linux? I mean, can I just learn C++ or do I need to learn some linux special things to?
[07:01] <devlin-7> if you can get it to install.... seems to hate Dells
[07:01] <kiroh> eyequeue hello
[07:01] <iiiears> !ubuntu-es
[07:01] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iiiears
[07:01] <kiroh> eyequeue, hello
[07:01] <kiroh> so???
[07:01] <eyequeue> kiroh, and i see that one in red, because it begins with eyequeue :)
[07:01] <renato_> hola putos
[07:01] <kiroh> ok
[07:01] <Zyclop> greetings
[07:01] <eyequeue> !language
[07:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[07:01] <iiiears> We will help where we can. even if spanish isn't spoken very well here.
[07:01] <ompaul> AlexC_, download the source and read it, you can do python and there is a ubuntu package - diveintopython which is a book
[07:02] <renato_> pasenme videos de alizee
[07:02] <zaydana> anybody got any idea why .htaccess files wouldn't be having any effect in apache2? they're using virtual hosts...
hola
[07:02] <AlexC_> ompaul, nah I hate Python - i'd much prefer to code C/C++
[07:02] <renato_> hola kiroh
[07:02] <renato_> cual es tu pedo
[07:02] <ompaul> AlexC_, so download a guide online and away you go
[07:02] <burning_bronx> renato_, hola hijo ;)
[07:03] <ompaul> !es
[07:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:03] <ic56> AlexC_: the programming languages are the same.  However, when you interact with the system, for instance, to open a file, or to start a sub-process, these things vary from OS to OS and so are different between Linux and Windows.
[07:03] <kiroh> eyequeue, do tou know whi i cant see videos in totem??? i have installed all the things i need, but it still not work
[07:04] <Zyclop> how do you set a gateway?
[07:04] <Sh4d0> ompaul, ctrl+alt+f1 takes be out of the graphical loading menu to jsut text, but i don't get a console: same problem, finishes loading and then locks up
[07:04] <AlexC_> cmpalmer, ic56 What I mean is - can I just code in C++ like I can in Windows and then just compile and run. Or do I need to include some other things like GTK etc and compile it in a different way? IF you've got some links to Codding C++ in Linix that't be great
[07:04] <keithhhhh> Im running a dual boot computer but I would like to run Ubuntu more..... One program is my email client, I dont want to change because it dloads my hotmail for me.  The other is a game making language but it only works in windows.   What is my best solution?
[07:04] <ompaul> Sh4d0, have you tried the options from wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[07:04] <Sh4d0> i can't get to a console to type those in
[07:05] <snoops> AlexC_ you're using the win32 api with c++ in windows..
[07:05] <iiiears> suPHP - PHP with permissions - Wide Grin
[07:05] <eyequeue> kiroh, i don't know.  sometimes totem-xone works best one some machines, sometimes totem-gstreamer works best, try one and then try the other i guess
[07:05] <kiroh> renato_ hola
[07:05] <ompaul> Sh4d0, you can interupt the grub boot and add them to the boot command line
[07:06] <Sh4d0> ompaul: roger, trying that
[07:06] <calisee> anyone have good xorg experience with a laptop and an external monitor?
[07:06] <rigonatti> does anyone know why Automatix halts on this line :::>gpg: requesting key 521A9C7C from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[07:06] <ic56> AlexC_: however, the documentation is all online -- sections 2 and 3 of the manpages respectively document system calls and library calls.  Yes, interacting with a windowing system qualifies as system-specific.  You will need to #include different things in Linux than you did in Windows.  More importantly, you will need to learn a whole new interface to opening windows, etc.  cout will be the same.  GUI stuff won't.
[07:06] <iiiears> calisee - "xinerama" no?
[07:06] <ompaul> rigonatti, please go to #automatix that is the automatix channel
[07:06] <rigonatti> ompaul: txs a lot
[07:07] <AlexC_> ic56, that's what I though - thanks =)
[07:07] <calisee> iiiears: i'm trying to fix my resolution on my external lcd, my laptop res is 1450x1024 and my tft is 1280x1024 but the tft is off
[07:07] <jahshua> is Breezy newer than Dapper >?
[07:07] <kiroh> eyequeue, i think i dont understand this ... what is the diference between totem-xine and totem-gstreamer???
[07:07] <LoneShadow> I need to add modprobe options for a driver, should I create a file under /etc/modprobe.d ?
[07:07] <ic56> AlexC_: here: read this: http://linuxgazette.net/issue70/ghosh2.html
[07:07] <eyequeue> jahshua, no, vice versa
[07:07] <iiiears> calisee - Uhoh - I am a rabid gamer, no LCD for me.
[07:07] <kiroh> eyequeue, because i'm running only totem
[07:07] <AlexC_> ic56, thank you very much
[07:08] <ic56> AlexC_: yw!
[07:08] <eyequeue> kiroh, both use the totem front end (user interface) but they use xine or gstreamer as backends
[07:08] <Sp4rKy_> hi
[07:08] <devlin-7> can anyone tell me why when I try to install Ubuntu I get to the re-partitioner and it fails saying "Failed to create enough space for installation" I am installing on a 80G HD that currently only has 5G used space... I was  going to allocate Ubuntu 40G's
[07:08] <jahshua> eyequeue ok thanks so can you tell me why the fluxbox on it is 9.14 ? it should be 9.15.1 ... ? do i need to run -current or something? i have changed my /etc/apt/sources.list etc..
[07:09] <Sp4rKy_> does anyone have a Vimicro webcam works correctly ?
[07:09] <eyequeue> kiroh, "sudo apt-get install totem-xine" and "sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer" to switch between them, to see which works best there for you
[07:09] <rigonatti> automatix its a desert channel :(
[07:09] <eyequeue> jahshua, i know nothing of fluxbox, sorry
[07:09] <jahshua> ok
[07:09] <kiroh> ok
[07:10] <dkr> where is a good place to ask a question like this?  is there a way to assign a keyboard shortcut to an arbitrary command?  (I was thinking like in properties of custom application launcher applet)  should I ask gnome people?
[07:10] <eyequeue> jahshua, i do know there is typically a version freeze a while before any release, for bug fixing and such
[07:10] <jahshua> ok
[07:10] <jahshua> thanks
[07:10] <rigonatti> does anyone know why Automatix halts on this line :::>gpg: requesting key 521A9C7C from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[07:10] <Zyclop> does anybody know, wich version of blender comes with dapper drake?
[07:10] <Sh4d0> ompaul, i'm really not understanding any of this, should i just reinstall?
[07:10] <NegativeSpace> How can I remove items from the desktop?
[07:10] <jughead> not sure Zyclop
[07:10] <juanje> olaaa
[07:11] <corecode> hey
[07:11] <corecode> anybody have advice how to install ubuntu *from* an usb stick?
[07:11] <eyequeue> Zyclop, 2.41-1ubuntu4
[07:11] <Zyclop> kthx
[07:11] <ompaul> Sh4d0, no remove the nvidia card plug your monitor on that box and check that the nic card works
[07:11] <eyequeue> Zyclop, if you're on a dapper box, "apt-cache show blender"
[07:11] <juanje> ke pasa colegas
[07:11] <mrDaniel> i have a dual-boot system (winXP home and ubuntu dapper) and a GeForce Go 7600 in my acer-notebook. in windows there is a tool from nvidia named 'powermize', which can set the graphic-power. do anyone one a equivalent tool for ubuntu or linux in general?
[07:11] <ompaul> !es
[07:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:12] <mrDaniel> i mean 'powermizer' :)
[07:12] <jahshua> eyequeue do you know anything about getting Opera web browser with Ubuntu ?
[07:12] <jahshua> dapper..
[07:12] <Zyclop> eyequeue: I'm not, that's why I was asking
[07:12] <eyequeue> Zyclop, i thought not, heh
[07:12] <BitWitty> anybody else having problems playing flash videos from youtube.com or cnn.com?
[07:12] <iiiears> mrDaniel: Check for "nVidia" in synaptic.
[07:12] <jughead> mrDaniel, I don't think they have gfx card spevific power management tools in linux
[07:12] <dkr> mrDaniel: there are a bunch of custom settings you can give the nvidia driver in your xorg.conf
[07:12] <jughead> they might though
[07:13] <eyequeue> !tell jahshua about opera
[07:13] <mrDaniel> thank you for your answer iiiears, jughead and dkr ! i will just check out the sites
[07:13] <eyequeue> BitWitty, someone yesterday was. i don't recall any resolution
[07:13] <iiiears> mrDaniel: The names there and a quick google will get you up to date info.
[07:13] <darius_> TaxACT Online is claiming Linux support - I've requested that they add Linux to their list of supported platforms
[07:13] <jahshua> thanks eyequeue
[07:13] <calisee> does anyone know how to set a resolution to an external monitor when it differs from your laptop screen res?
[07:14] <darius_> their online list
[07:14] <eyequeue> jahshua, no prob
[07:14] <DarthMorlock> what is the best irc client for dapper drake?
[07:14] <jahshua> irssi
[07:14] <jahshua> :)
[07:14] <darius_> loaded question :)
[07:14] <ArtVandalae> agreed
[07:14] <BitWitty> hmm, can't play google video either. Just wondering if it's just me or if flash 7 is no longer good enough to play the latest stuff.
[07:14] <jughead> i use xchat
[07:14] <AlexC_> ic56, if I code for GTK - does that mean the applications' GUI will only work on Gnome and not XFCE or KDE for example ?
[07:14] <DarthMorlock> lol
[07:14] <Bassetts> sladen: all done, wish my luck with the restart
[07:14] <eyequeue> DarthMorlock, "best" is opinion, irssi is good in cli, xchat is good in gui
[07:14] <ArtVandalae> But you might be more interested in X-chat if yu're using GNOME
[07:14] <BitWitty> thank you eyequeue.
[07:14] <ompaul> DarthMorlock, personally xchat with its scripting and the fact that I run it full screen its not bad
[07:14] <DarthMorlock> i am
[07:15] <DarthMorlock> using gnome
[07:15] <calisee> does anyone know how to set a resolution to an external monitor when it differs from your laptop screen res?
[07:15] <jughead> I use xchat and gnome as well DarthMorlock
[07:15] <DarthMorlock> thanks guys
[07:15] <garryfre> I have no clue Calisee
[07:15] <DarthMorlock> aprecaite
[07:15] <ArtVandalae> irssi and screen make one of the best IRC clients known to man :)
[07:16] <eyequeue> ArtVandalae, agreed
[07:16] <nostalg1c> irssi is a joke for ice heh
[07:16] <nostalg1c> *irc
[07:16] <jorgg> where do i install programs when nor useing apt-get, what is the usual directory?
[07:16] <kiroh> eyequeue, xine and gstreamer dont work, (what are the pakages i need to use totem-xine?? it can be that i dont have all of it)
[07:16] <nostalg1c> xchat is halfasses but the only somewhat decent irc client around for lunix
[07:16] <Zambezi> Anyone know if it's possible to sfv-check several subfolders with cfv?
[07:16] <Snellgrove> soo, who else is having problems getting Google Earth linux version working :@
[07:16] <gnomefreak> guys this isnt the channel for bleh is better than bleh
[07:16] <iiiears> calisee: xinerama or editing the "xorg.conf" file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. - There should be some samples on the 'Net.
[07:16] <jughead> xchat does what I want it to
[07:16] <eyequeue> kiroh, "sudo apt-get install totem-xine" would also install any dependencies you need
[07:17] <snoops> jorgg ah, you don't choose, it chooses.. different philosophies are used in linux than windows :)
[07:17] <TheSquire> hello all
[07:17] <calisee> iiiears: yeah I know it is in xorg.conf I tried some things but couldn't get it working
[07:17] <Snellgrove> installing google earth as user = no worky, permission issues even on home directory.
[07:17] <garryfre> Others were having stability issues with google earth last night
[07:17] <nostalg1c> gnomefreak, he didn't ask what's better than what, he just asked for "something decent", and when it comes to irc.. well, there _are_ no decent irc clients
[07:17] <nostalg1c> heh
[07:17] <TheSquire> does anyone have insight into what it takes to install ubuntu as a guest OS on Xen?
[07:17] <jorgg> snoops; but when not using apt-get i have to choose, where to?
[07:17] <nostalg1c> (and that's not limited to linux for that matter)
[07:17] <iiiears> calisee: Give me a sec. should be able to find a link for you. :)
[07:17] <ic56> AlexC_: yes.  Though GTK is a library and it can be used in conjunction with XFCE or KDE.  Mind you, much of that library's purpose is to let processes communicate with each other.  In a KDE environment you're GTK-linked process will be all alone with no one to talk to.  Besides, KDE has its own competing library and running both is just inefficient.  XFCE is meant to be light and running GTK defeats that purpose.
[07:17] <Snellgrove> installing as root, means you need to run as root it seems... I chmod -R the whole /usr/local dir, to 777 and still no working!
[07:17] <Doat> i need help with installing cvscedega. the installation (i used WineCVS.sh) goes fine but when i run cvscedega i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15659 Ideas?
[07:17] <kiroh> eyequeue, then  none of the two works
[07:17] <lucasvo> anybody know if ubuntu will use CNR in next release?
[07:17] <ic56> AlexC_: s/you're/your/
[07:18] <gnomefreak> well gaim,irssixchat,xchat-gnome so on
[07:18] <garryfre> !flash
[07:18] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:18] <AlexC_> ic56, humm I see
[07:18] <kiroh> eyequeue, i had the same problem in breezy
[07:18] <snoops> jorgg when do you have to choose?
[07:18] <nostalg1c> ic56, then again, running "just qt" or "just gtk" isn't a real-life option for most practical uses isn't it :/
[07:18] <Zambezi> It's too many people here.
[07:18] <gnomefreak> lucasvo: too early to tell
[07:18] <eyequeue> kiroh, that's too bad, i don't know what to suggest, other than another player such a vlc
[07:18] <kiroh> ok :'(
[07:18] <ale_> hello everybody. Is there someone that can help me with a bluetooth problem?
[07:18] <jorgg> Snoops: downloaded a file  want to install..
[07:18] <AlexC_> ic56, would be so much easier if they used the same - same goes for packages, would be easier if every linux distro used the same package management
[07:19] <gnomefreak> jorgg: what kind of file?
[07:19] <iiiears> calisee:  Is this it?  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=346612
[07:19] <eyequeue> !ask
[07:19] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:19] <garryfre> !bluetooth
[07:19] <ubotu> [bluetooth]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[07:19] <jorgg> gnomefreak; google earth
[07:19] <snoops> what type of file jorgg? a .deb?
[07:19] <ic56> AlexC_: it would be, but then we'd be stuck with something we didn't like.  Variety is the spice of life and different strokes work for different folks.
[07:19] <gnomefreak> google earth still .exe only? than you need wine
[07:19] <jughead> I got google earth working
[07:19] <nostalg1c> AlexC_, it wouldn't be linux if they would do that.. that's what you get with a free and open community :)
[07:19] <jughead> it is available for linux now
[07:19] <snoops> you'll want to use dpkg to install a .deb, if you can't get it through apt..
[07:20] <calisee> iiiears: that looks like it could be of some use, thanks I'll give it a try
[07:20] <jughead> it is downloaded as a .bin
[07:20] <jorgg> snoops: bin
[07:20] <gnomefreak> jughead: tar?
[07:20] <nostalg1c> ic56, that is such a myth. sure, different strokes work for different folks, but rarely all strokes you need come from the same brush
[07:20] <gnomefreak> ah bin ;)
[07:20] <ale_> i've read all of these, but i've a strange problem
[07:20] <GoDawgs> hey ya'll...
[07:20] <jughead> hello GoDawgs
[07:20] <jorgg> google earth is in beta version for linux
[07:20] <AlexC_> nostalg1c, ic56 true true - I like the flexibility Linux does off you in that respect - but some standards and rules need to be set, and I just think that is one of them that's needed.
[07:20] <Bazzi> variety is good, getting the job done is better :-)
[07:20] <Doat> i need help with installing cvscedega. the installation (i used WineCVS.sh) goes fine but when i run cvscedega i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15659 Ideas?
[07:21] <garryfre> Bugs are like lays potato chips. You can't just have one.
[07:21] <kiroh> eyequeue, it is strange, because i only hear the sound, but i see nothing
[07:21] <eyequeue> AlexC_, and i respectfully disagree emphatically :)
[07:21] <GoDawgs> I'm trying again to install Dapper since the final just came out.  I'm curious though.  Why does the CD auto load to LIVE verson rather than give you the option to install?
[07:21] <nostalg1c> AlexC_, there are initiatives for standards and rules as you define them -- but most of them fail horribly
[07:21] <ic56> nostalg1c: you've taken that metaphor to places I don't understand. Care to explain?
[07:21] <Stormx2> Someone has to help me... I now have no bootloader at all... I can't run any operating systems! Can someone help me reinstall grub... I'm completely stuck. I have a bit of a different setup... I've tried the recovering grub wiki page... its not working. neither is the super grub installer. Could someone /msg me who knows anything about grub?
[07:21] <kiroh> and i have installed the windows codecs too
[07:21] <KenSentMe> GoDawgs: you can install it when you are on the live cd
[07:21] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, all cds offer install at the first menu
[07:21] <KenSentMe> GoDawgs: it's a install and livecd combined
[07:22] <dran> Is there a way to (during boot) check if a network cable is plugged in, and if it's not don't load that interface at all ?
[07:22] <Sh4d0> ompaul, computer is booted without nvidia card, im logged in, not sure where to go to get nic working
[07:22] <garryfre> !grub
[07:22] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:22] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, otherwise, there is an install icon on that livecd desktop
[07:22] <nostalg1c> ic56, sure, i probably got yours wrong to begin with, since i don't know what a stroke is ^^ i linked it to "a stroke of a brush" but that might not be the correct meaning. i meant that "choice of environments" is a good thing, but the fact that this choice limits you as to what programs you can run is not
[07:22] <Stormx2> garryfre: Tried that.
[07:22] <GoDawgs> KenSentMe: Oh okay... so it's different than before... I have to boot to the live desktop to install.... got it
[07:22] <nostalg1c> (and yes, i know you can run all, but in the spirit of this conversation we were talking about running just one)
[07:22] <KenSentMe> GoDawgs: yep, it's one cd instead of 2
[07:22] <Starseed> Stormx2: recovering grub is damn easy, if none of those worked for you, the problem is you
[07:22] <nostalg1c> haha kensentme
[07:22] <ic56> AlexC_: GNOME, IMO, will win over KDE eventually.  It has the right breeding.  XFCE and others like ion will remain for obvious reasons -- they serve specialized markets that are unable or unwilling to use the big heavy gui.
[07:22] <GoDawgs> KenSentMe: Ok ... I'll give it another go...
[07:22] <nostalg1c> use remote!
[07:23] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, didn't you get a menu before it booted to the livecd?
[07:23] <Sp4rKy> does anyone have this message " Find Sensor UNKNOW_0 force Tas5130
[07:23] <GoDawgs> thanks for your input too eyequeue :)
[07:23] <Sp4rKy> "
[07:23] <Stormx2> Starseed: Oh thanks. Is that the help I get?
[07:23] <KenSentMe> nostalg1c: what?
[07:23] <ompaul> Sh4d0, System Administration Networking
[07:23] <nostalg1c> oh, your nick isn't an allusion to LSL?
[07:23] <dran> Is there a way to (during boot) check if a network cable is plugged in, and if it's not don't load that interface at all ? (Alternately tell the system not to wait 15 secs before realising there really is no cable there).
[07:23] <Stormx2> Like I said, I have an odd setup.
[07:23] <iiiears> Sh4d0: Who makes your NIC? What type is ist? "lsmod" in a terminal will print the needed info for you.
[07:23] <GoDawgs> eyequeue: Yes.  However, install of prompting me if I wanted to install or just boot to the Live CD, it just auto loaded the live portion.  I want to install.
[07:23] <ic56> nostalg1c: ah, I get you now.  Yes, I agree.
[07:23] <AlexC_> nostalg1c, that's why I think a standard widget/window manager should be inplace - so that applications can run on any desktop environment the user wishes, and not haev to worry about compatibility issues
[07:23] <KenSentMe> nostalg1c: yes it is :D
[07:23] <Sp4rKy> does anyone have this message " Find Sensor UNKNOW_0 force Tas5130" in dmesg with a Vimicro webcam ???
[07:23] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, hit tab or esc to prevent it from just plowing forward :)
[07:23] <ale_> i've a strange bluetooth problem. my bluetooth dongle is up and running, it works fine sending files to my nokia 6630, but the BD address is 00:00:00:00:00:00. Can someone help me?
[07:23] <nostalg1c> KenSentMe, you need to use the remote control to switch the tv to the correct channel so the guard will let you go upstairs.. :)
[07:23] <GoDawgs> eyequeue: ok.... noted.  THank you so much!
[07:23] <jorgg> where is the usual place to install programs for all useres in ubuntu?
[07:24] <TheSquire> does anyone have insight into what it takes to install ubuntu as a guest OS on Xen?
[07:24] <GoDawgs> let me give me another go
[07:24] <GoDawgs> thanks again!
[07:24] <garryfre> I got stuck like that once and had to run fdisk /mbr on the windows partition to get windows access. Also sometimes I could get access by setting a drive in a multi-drive system as the one to try to boot from in bios.
[07:24] <Stormx2> I've got go eat dinner... if someone knows anything about recovering GRUB after a windows install and WON'T link me to the wiki I've read and re-read, please msg me so I can see afterwards.
[07:24] <nostalg1c> AlexC_, there's the free desktop initiative that strides to create general standards between the big DE's
[07:24] <KenSentMe> nostalg1c: i know, thought you responded to a question here, it's too hot here to think straight
[07:24] <eyequeue> jorgg, apt-get install is how that's ususally done
[07:24] <nostalg1c> KenSentMe, for real.. way too hot
[07:24] <eyequeue> jorgg, manually, you may be looking for /usr/local/bin/
[07:24] <KenSentMe> nostalg1c: dutch too?
[07:24] <jorgg> eyequeue; but when not using apt-get and have to choose dir.
[07:24] <nostalg1c> belgian actually, but that probably won't make the difference.. :)
[07:24] <jorgg> eyequeue;  okay
[07:25] <KenSentMe> nostalg1c: it doesn't
[07:25] <Ayabara> I got some help "setting the suid bit" in k3b yesterday, and now the app won't start. It starts with sudo k3b, but keeps ejecting the cd when in the middle of jobs
[07:25] <tr1gg3r> hi anyone using ubuntu on a dell latitude d820? im curious if anyone has found a solution to this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/43745
[07:25] <AlexC_> nostalg1c, oh right - I hope they get the standards set =) also ic56 I think that to ( with gnome wining over KDE ) - but only with the next major release
[07:25] <Snellgrove> woohooo, got google earth working :D
[07:25] <osvaldo> any speak spanish?
[07:25] <jughead> sweet Snellgrove
[07:25] <gnomefreak> osvaldo: #ubuntu-es
[07:25] <eyequeue> osvaldo, #ubuntu-es
[07:25] <Spaceraverlinux> ompaul, i got it to work.... seems there is a problem with automount...
[07:25] <iiiears> Hola osvaldo bienvinidos to ubuntu
[07:26] <iiiears> !es
[07:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:26] <nostalg1c> ic56, imho, KDE is better than gnome atm, but seeing how KDE is all about proprietary QT, well, that just won't work out ^^
[07:26] <Sh4d0_> ompaul, nic working
[07:26] <Lpadmin> Has anyone had problems with Dapper and CUPS?
[07:26] <Doat> i need help with installing cvscedega. the installation (i used WineCVS.sh) goes fine but when i run cvscedega i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15659 Ideas?
[07:26] <ic56> AlexC_: I disagree with the others on one point:  Standards tend to evolve much better in Free Software than they do in commercial software.  Linux has a lot more standards than other places.  Given the vast variety of apps available, the presence of of only 2 major GUI standards (an older one, and a newer one under a freer license) is a testament to this.
[07:26] <garryfre> Only when I forget to turn on my printer.
[07:26] <jughead> dapper recognized my HP printer no problems Lpadmin
[07:26] <Spaceraverlinux> now i just need to figure out how to get it to autumount again
[07:26] <winbond> what is the best recent book on linux in general , not concentrating on any distro
[07:27] <nostalg1c> ic56, kde vs gnome or xfree vs x.org?
[07:27] <nostalg1c> or qt vs gtk
[07:27] <eyequeue> nostalg1c, linux is about choices, not homogeneity :)  that said, even though i don't like kde, qt is finally under a free license
[07:27] <dwight> any amavis gurus?
[07:27] <Madpilot> winbond, O'Reilly's Linux books, generally - I like the Linux Handbook & the Linux Cookbook
[07:27] <AlexC_> ic56, I'd of thought standards would evolve slower in open source - as there is a much much larger user base coding ( I assume? ) so it would be harder to enforce these standards without taking away Linux's choice and flexibility
[07:27] <jughead> I like KDE, but I'm giving gnome a go
[07:27] <Spaceraverlinux> !da
[07:27] <Bassetts> sladen: it worked, but all the colours are messed up, think i got it wrong somewhere
[07:27] <Lpadmin> Jughead, after upgrading to Dapper, I had some problems with package dependencies and cupsys.
[07:27] <ubotu> Spaceraverlinux: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:27] <garryfre> Usuallly I find by the time a book is written on something, its obsolete.
[07:27] <Ayabara> any good alternatives to k3b?
[07:28] <ic56> nostalg1c: qt vs gtk and, hence, kde vs gnome.  As for x.org... I thought xfree was just the older stuff that will eventually go away.
[07:28] <Spaceraverlinux> ubuntudk
[07:28] <Spaceraverlinux> !dk
[07:28] <jughead> Lpadmin, did you to a dist-upgrade?
[07:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk
[07:28] <Spaceraverlinux> aah
[07:28] <sladen> Bassetts: as I said, Photoshop rearranges the colours for you.  You need to fix them up in something that doesn't mess with them
[07:28] <sladen> Bassetts: eg. The GIMP
[07:28] <Lpadmin> Nostalg1c, or vim versus Emacs.
[07:28] <Ayabara> ahh. k3b says "The KDE libraries are not designed to run with suid privileges.". how can I unset the suid bit?
[07:28] <Bassetts> sladen: i did them in GIMP
[07:28] <Lpadmin> Jughead, yes.
[07:28] <nostalg1c> "photoshop rearranges the colours for you" aka "i'm now capable of working with photoshop" :)
[07:28] <eyequeue> ic56, xf went with an evil license decision, so some people forked off x.org from the last "free" x
[07:28] <Bassetts> sladen: which is index 0 in the palette editor?
[07:29] <AlexC_> anyway guys, i'd better go revise - chemistry and electronics exams tomorrow =(
[07:29] <sladen> Bassetts: it's on the wiki page.  index 0 needs to be the background colour
[07:29] <jughead> good luck AlexC_
[07:29] <Spaceraverlinux> i need a quick and dirty howto to get automount working...
[07:29] <AlexC_> jughead, thanks - cya
[07:29] <iiiears>  I have had bad luck with Cedega CVS everytime. (Almost as if they don't want it to work ya know?) I have subscribed and transfered those configs.
[07:29] <ic56> AlexC_: the biggest obstacle to standards is when people don't want to agree because it destroys their competitive advantage.  In the Free Software world, technical merit is the primary concern and, hence,...
[07:29] <eyequeue> ic56, and yes, due to that licensing decision, most people do expect the old xfree to die off from non-use
[07:29] <Sh4d0_> ompaul, the nic is working, what should i do next to get the video working?
[07:29] <garryfre> I simply installed KDE from the repositories. It had some issues with breezy, but nothing serious, I do not know what it would do with dapper, but I did get a menu that let me choose between what gui I wanted to log in with.
[07:29] <Bassetts> sladen: ive followed that, but in the palette editor, is it left to right or right to left the indexes?
[07:30] <nostalg1c> ic56, how is that more of an obstacle than when people don't want to agree because, well, "i just want it my way" ?
[07:30] <AlexC_> ic56, we all have to do or agree on something we don't like once in our lives. anyway - cya tomorrow
[07:30] <Lpadmin> !Paste
[07:30] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[07:30] <Red-Sox> !binaries
[07:30] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red-Sox
[07:30] <iiiears> Doat: Cedega is painless and the subscription is nearly so, $5 dollars a month.
[07:31] <Spaceraverlinux> i have gotten cedega to work... and im not even sure how i did it...
[07:31] <Red-Sox> !dapper
[07:31] <ubotu> somebody said dapper was Ubuntu 6.06, the "Dapper Drake" release. Released June 1st 2006
[07:31] <Red-Sox> !botsnack
[07:31] <ubotu> :)
[07:31] <Spaceraverlinux> from cvs
[07:31] <garryfre> Long text is a subjective term.
[07:31] <Doat> iiiears, i don't like paying for stuff i can get for free :/
[07:31] <Spaceraverlinux> Doat, i aint that hard
[07:31] <snoops> iiiears cedega goes against the linux philosophy though.. :/
[07:31] <iiiears> Doat: Aw.., They do good work. ;)
[07:31] <snoops> supposed to be about sharing, ya know?
[07:31] <ic56> nostalg1c: "wanting it my way" doesn't create a large user base in the bazaar world.  It works if you have a big marketing arm behind you because that ensures continued funding for your coders and adoption by users -- despite technical failures.
[07:32] <Doat> iiiears, they do. but i might as well change back to windows
[07:32] <Doat> Spaceraverlinux, then tell me what to do :s
[07:32] <nostalg1c> ic56, that's why we have kde vs gnome? emacs vs vi? debian vs slackware? [x]  vs [y]  ?
[07:32] <garryfre> Cedega is a conspiracy to make windows bugs run under linux.
[07:32] <sladen> Bassetts: I haven't got a clue about photoshop
[07:33] <Doat> garryfre, and make people pay for it :)
[07:33] <Spaceraverlinux> 2 secs Doat im reading my own faq on how i did it...
[07:33] <Lpadmin> Jughead, and everyone else: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15663
[07:33] <basti> !kernel
[07:33] <iiiears> Doat: Check out Freenode #cedega - The devs hang out there and answers. Nice folks
[07:33] <ic56> nostalg1c: I already explained why we have these.  I won't repeat myself.
[07:33] <sladen> Bassetts: in the GIMP, when you click it says "Entry 0", "Entry #1" etc
[07:33] <nostalg1c> ic56, linux is based on a bunch of people not being able to agree on stuff and constantly forking their own, dividing the general public in smaller parts just for the sake of alternative
[07:33] <garryfre> Doat LoL
[07:33] <Doat> iiiears, thanks
[07:33] <nostalg1c> ic56, i don't ask you to explain, i'm trying to explain to you :)
[07:33] <Bassetts> sladen: im doing the palette in gimp
[07:33] <ranpha> how can i check if acpi is off and apm is on?
[07:33] <Sh4d0> can anyone walk me through installing a nvidia PCI card on a box already configured with onboard?
[07:33] <zippz0r> !nvidia
[07:33] <ic56> nostalg1c: I hear you but I see it differently.  we'll have to agree to disagree.
[07:33] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:33] <eyequeue> forks are actually rather avoided, a measure of desparation
[07:34] <Sp4rKy> does anyone have this message " Find Sensor UNKNOW_0 force Tas5130" in dmesg with a Vimicro webcam ???
[07:34] <nostalg1c> ic56, why is it linux people always have to "agree to disagree" instead of having a decent low tone discussion :(
[07:34] <gnomefreak> nostalg1c: and ic56 #ubuntu-offtopic to continue on that subject
[07:34] <garryfre> also you might want to disable the onboard video a bios setting, jumper or hammer usually does the trick.
[07:34] <ic56> nostalg1c: because this is a support channel.
[07:34] <Lpadmin> Jughead?
[07:35] <nostalg1c> that must be the best shunning excuse in a while
[07:35] <nostalg1c> but ok, i got your point
[07:35] <clinea> Heya... is there a utility to setup Xorg to do dual head with Nvidia graphics card?
[07:35] <Spec> !dualhead
[07:35] <ubotu> Spec: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:35] <ranpha> how can i check if acpi is off and apm is on?
[07:35] <Spec> !dual head
[07:35] <jughead> Lpadmin, I read the pastebin entry, but I'm not sure what's going on
[07:35] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Spec
[07:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell clinea -about xinerama
[07:35] <kallei> what is the vga setting in /boot/grub/menu.lst  to boot usplash with 1024x768 resolution?
[07:35] <Spec> damn you ubotu, damn you.
[07:35] <garryfre> I only feel nostalgic when my present situation stinks.
[07:35] <eyequeue> btw, #ubuntu-offtopic isn't a "go away" comment, it's a channel with a number of interesting discussions, and over 100 in it
[07:36] <nostalg1c> eyequeue, haha, whups :)
[07:36] <Spec> indeed, ubuntu-offtopic is a perfect place to continue offtopic goodness
[07:36] <jahshua> hey peeps just wondering if anyone can help me with this question, i installed just now from an old Dapper BETA cd that i had burned, i have update everything and what not, is this as good as the release Dapper .. can i make it so, if not?
[07:36] <gnomefreak> !offtopic
[07:36] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:36] <iiiears> clinea - Xinerama is what is often mentioned.
[07:36] <gnomefreak> iiiears: he has the link for it ;)
[07:36] <Lpadmin> Jughead, I entered the command dpkg --configure -a ; then I received those results.
[07:36] <clinea> iiiears and gnomefreak, thanks.
[07:36] <gnomefreak> clinea: yw
[07:36] <eyequeue> ericz, i don't know about the "wars" ubotu, the CoC still applies there :)
[07:36] <pike_> ranpha: the apropos command is often helpful 'apropos apm' for example it basically searches the man pages and responds with a list of commands
[07:37] <Ayabara> !xgl
[07:37] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:37] <eyequeue> ericz, sorry, silly nick completion
[07:37] <Sir_Osvald> hello
[07:37] <Sh4d0> ompaul: thanks for your help, i'm working on the nvidia drivers, i'll be back if things go awry
[07:37] <Sir_Osvald> whats can help me please???
[07:37] <Sir_Osvald> send me one msh
[07:37] <docgnome> does anyone know how to change what gnome-terminal reports as $TERM?
[07:37] <Zyclop> where do you set a gateway?
[07:38] <Spec> docgnome: can you just: set TERM=blah
[07:38] <eyequeue> Zyclop, /etc/network/interfaces, typically
[07:38] <Zyclop> thx
[07:38] <docgnome> Spec: Yes, but that's a kludge. To make it do that everytime I'd have to put it in an rc file or something.
[07:38] <ic56> !justask
[07:38] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[07:38] <jahshua> hey peeps just wondering if anyone can help me with this question, i installed just now from an old Dapper BETA cd that i had burned, i have update everything and what not, is this as good as the release Dapper .. can i make it so, if not?
[07:38] <eyequeue> Zyclop, man 5 interfaces, for syntax/format
[07:38] <Zyclop> thx
[07:39] <gnomefreak> jahshua: yes you atre fully updated -= release
[07:39] <Spaceraverlinux> the cedega cvs howto http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS
[07:39] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[07:39] <ubotu> To install cedega please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[07:39] <Spec> docgnome: yeap, put it in .bashrc
[07:39] <pike_> docgnome: take a look at the the .bashrc file in your home directory
[07:39] <Spaceraverlinux> !utomount
[07:39] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Spaceraverlinux
[07:40] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[07:40] <Spaceraverlinux> !automount
[07:40] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Spaceraverlinux
[07:40] <docgnome> ... My point is that that is an ugly fix.
[07:40] <Spaceraverlinux> argh
[07:40] <linuxboyfriend> http://pastebin.com/706919  <--- kindly check this problem in apache installation
[07:40] <NegativeSpace> Where would be a suitable place to install Sun's JDK?
[07:41] <JohnsonE> so what's the recommended method of playing windows media files?
[07:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell NegativeSpace -about java
[07:41] <eyequeue> NegativeSpace, where apt-get puts it
[07:41] <kallei> after changing my vga option in the /boot/grub/menu.lst ( i tried set vga=791) , my tty consoles does not work. the whole screen just gets rendered strange ,  why is this?
[07:41] <Zambezi> Wish my good luck. It's time for Ubuntuinstallation now.
[07:41] <eyequeue> NegativeSpace, it is a package now, if you were not aware
[07:41] <NegativeSpace> gnomefreak: Awesome.
[07:41] <NegativeSpace> eyequeue: I was not aware. I am now.
[07:42] <Guilt> you- bun - tyu!
[07:42] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone help me about that apache installation problem?
[07:42] <kadambi> I'm unable to stream using Realplayer, and I did all that is told in ubuntu wiki
[07:42] <ic56> kallei: the vga= kernel option is used to control the tty console.
[07:43] <kadambi> Any helps ??
[07:43] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: try #apache
[07:43] <winbond> what is a good recent book on linux in general , not concentrating on any distro
[07:43] <luk> how to install real player plugin on dapper ?
[07:43] <luk> i mean real player to use in firefox
[07:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell luk -about realplayer
[07:43] <Spaceraverlinux> !tell luk about restrictedformats
[07:43] <kiroh__> do everyone konw why gstreamer, xine and vlc don't work in my pc???
[07:44] <juanje> olaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:44] <kiroh__> hola
[07:44] <webdesigner> !realplayer
[07:44] <ubotu> from memory, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:44] <ic56> !es
[07:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:44] <Fastly> I've been setting up file sharing using System->Administration->Shared Folders... I am sharing my home folder across a samba network with windows laptops.  This breezy server is showing in the workgroup on the windows machines but is asking for a password. I have tried entering my root and main username and password and it won't let me view the files. Preferably I wouldn't have a password because my LAN is secure.. any ideas please?.
[07:45] <Spec> Fastly: you need to set up samba to allow guest authentication
[07:45] <Fastly> the windows boxes also prepend the name of the linux server before whatever username i attempt
[07:46] <Spec> Fastly: You also need to use 'smbpasswd' to set the password for any user
[07:46] <Linuxn00b> i installer compiz and now my monitor goes white when i boot up ubuntu.can anybody hlp me uninstall compiz from recovery mode??
[07:46] <Spec> Fastly: it uses USERS from the system, but the passwords are separate, and need to be created via smbpasswd
[07:46] <eyequeue> Linuxn00b, dpkg --purge compiz ?
[07:46] <kiroh__> do everyone konw why gstreamer, xine and vlc don't work in my pc???
[07:47] <jahshua> no
[07:47] <apokryphos> kiroh__: statements like that are more or less useless. You're going to have to expand
[07:47] <Spaceraverlinux> what do i need to change in fstab to get automount to work??
[07:47] <AlienX> anyone know tomorrow's lottery numbers?
[07:47] <eyequeue> Spaceraverlinux, "man fstab" should give syntax
[07:48] <ic56> docgnome: to change what gnome-terminal reports as TERM, you have only 2 options: modify the source code and rebuild or change TERM in your .bashrc  Note that setting TERM in rc won't work because gnome-terminal would overwrite that value.
[07:48] <jughead> Fastly, that is correct, my windows box does the same ting
[07:48] <Fee^> 1 12 23 34 18 22 5
[07:48] <kiroh__> i have installed all the codecs and i can only hear the sound of the movie
[07:48] <AlienX> Fee^, sweet! thanks lol
[07:48] <Fastly> thanks guys... i just used smbpasswd to set my user password and now i can access my files ... thanks!
[07:48] <simira> I have a problem on a new-installed ibm x43 laptop. multiverse is added in sources.list, but it can't find mplayer
[07:48] <ic56> Spacesaverlinux: automount what?
[07:49] <Linuxn00b> the monitor is still white when i try to logg in, but compiz was removed
[07:49] <jughead> simira, are you using synaptic?
[07:49] <uXp> anyway to back up the ubuntu settings?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> uXp: your home dir
[07:50] <uXp> gnomefreak:  what you mean
[07:50] <simira> jughead: tried both synaptics and aptitude
[07:50] <ic56> uXp: which settings?
[07:50] <ecker> Would anyone in here happen to have a IBM R40 thinkpad laptop?
[07:50] <Madpilot> uXp, most of your settings are saved in hidden files in your home dir
[07:50] <Linuxn00b> need help to recover ubuntu
[07:50] <gnomefreak> uXp: the config files are in your home dir back up your home dir to save them
[07:50] <jughead> did you enable the univers and multiverson on all of them or just one?
[07:50] <jughead> *universe and multiverse
[07:51] <ic56> Linuxn00b: give a more specific question, please
[07:51] <ajax4> When I shut down, why does it say that its shutting down "bttrack.bittorrent"? Anyone know?
[07:51] <eyequeue> ic56, he has a white screen after installing compiz, even pafter removing it
[07:51] <Sh4d0> im back, still getting the lockup after load. i installed the legacy drivers for nvidia... any ideas?
[07:52] <Linuxn00b> my kernel crashes
[07:52] <Linuxn00b> (i think so at least)
[07:52] <gnomefreak> Linuxn00b: try #ubuntu-xgl or reformat
[07:52] <eyequeue> Linuxn00b, what is the last thing you see before the crash?
[07:52] <ic56> eyequeue, Linuxn00b: Oh.  He said that in a separate line, so I missed it.  I don't have the answer to that.
[07:52] <Linuxn00b> ok i can format but i need to copy files from the main disk to another....how?
[07:53] <eyequeue> ic56, i know nothing of compiz, so i'm probably of little help in this
[07:53] <gnomefreak> Linuxn00b: gnomebaker
[07:53] <Spec> naa, you just need to remove xgl and re-configure X.org
[07:53] <kiroh__> i have installed all the codecs and i can only hear the sound of the movie please help me
[07:53] <Spec> you've followed restrictedformats, kiroh__ ?
[07:54] <eyequeue> Linuxn00b, the general answer:  cp /first/place/for/the/file /other/new/place/
[07:54] <Pulgoki> .
[07:54] <kiroh__> yes i tried all
[07:54] <Pulgoki> can anyone tell me if there is a command to use to list all files on the system that were changed after a certain date?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> kiroh__: make sure you have libdvdcss installed
[07:54] <Kuyaedz> what are the differences in the DVD.iso & the standard .isos?
[07:54] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  grab the essential codec pack from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[07:55] <GoDawgs> She's baaa-ack! :)
[07:55] <gnomefreak> Kuyaedz: dvd has more packages on the disk but if your gonna enable the repos it doesnt make a difference
[07:55] <Linuxn00b> can you help me to reconfigure xorg?
[07:55] <GoDawgs> Got it installed.... that was super duper fast man!
[07:55] <pike_> kiroh__: you can type 'file filename.avi' for more detailed info on file type
[07:55] <eyequeue> Kuyaedz, the dvd is dvd-size, not a mere 600 mb, and it's also dvd-format
[07:55] <uXp> gnomefreak:  wouldn't backing up a home dir then replacing it on a new reinstall mess up the whole comp?
[07:55] <Sir_Osvald> alguien habla espaol?
[07:55] <noiz777> hello, new to ubuntu, used other distro with kde before though...i need some help...how do i edit stuff on a folder that only has root permission??
[07:55] <KenSentMe> GoDawgs: Nice
[07:55] <[NP] Tangent> !es
[07:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:55] <gnomefreak> uXp: not really
[07:55] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  install to /usr/lib/win32
[07:55] <GoDawgs> However, I was under the impression the driver for Broadcom's 43xx was solved.  Thought it would work... but to no avail.
[07:55] <eyequeue> noiz777, sudo command-here
[07:55] <GoDawgs> hey KenSentMe
[07:55] <javierito> wenas
[07:56] <ic56> Pulgoki: find / -mtime +1 -print  # outputs all files modified upto 1 day ago
[07:56] <ruggy> from what distro did you all convert to ubuntu from?
[07:56] <uXp> gnomefreak:  even if i have xgl and compiz, wouldn't that be messing it up?
[07:56] <KenSentMe> !tell noiz777 about root
[07:56] <eyequeue> noiz777, sudo gedit /etc/fstab, as example
[07:56] <ajax4> ruggy: Mandriva for me
[07:56] <gnomefreak> uXp: files sitting in your home dir dont do anything
[07:56] <[NP] Tangent> ruggy: I converted from XP Home SP1
[07:56] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, what??
[07:56] <KenSentMe> !broadcom
[07:56] <ubotu> I guess broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[07:56] <uXp> gnomefreak:  explain
[07:56] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  grab the essential codec pack from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[07:56] <gnomefreak> uXp: your xorg config is not in home
[07:56] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  install to /usr/lib/win32
[07:56] <Linuxn00b> can someone help me reconfigure x.org?
[07:56] <Pulgoki> ic56: thank you much
[07:56] <noiz777> eyequeue, hmm ok i get it, that i can do on the console but how about gui
[07:56] <KenSentMe> !tell GoDawgs about broadcom
[07:56] <Linuxn00b> i have the desktop cd
[07:56] <yoly> server irc.irc-hispano.org
[07:56] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  then install mplayer
[07:56] <linux_newbie> hi guys
[07:56] <eyequeue> noiz777, gedit is a gui app
[07:56] <kiroh__> ok
[07:56] <gnomefreak> uXp: do you have a picture stored in your home dir?
[07:57] <ic56> Pulgoki: welcome.  There are many more options.  "man find" for details
[07:57] <yoly> join #granada
[07:57] <uXp> i mena like files
[07:57] <uXp> mean*
[07:57] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  welcome
[07:57] <eyequeue> noiz777, sudo nano filename if you want cli only :)
[07:57] <gnomefreak> uXp: your home dir doesnt ever execute anything
[07:57] <linux_newbie> I got a apache2 problem under ubuntu, can someone help ?
[07:57] <noiz777> eyequeue, hehe sorry like i said noob here...ok let me try
[07:57] <gnomefreak> uXp: just a place for other files to look for config options
[07:57] <eyequeue> noiz777, no prob, we were all new once
[07:57] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, can i install it using apt-get???
[07:57] <Psychobudgie> ruggy:  I moved to ubuntu from mandrake
[07:57] <nostalg1c> not me
[07:57] <KenSentMe> linux_newbie: just ask your question
[07:57] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  no
[07:57] <nostalg1c> i was born a guru
[07:57] <uXp> like i have xgl and compiz, if i have to reinstall and restore with my copied home dir it would mess it up since i don't have those files anymore...?
[07:58] <GoDawgs> KenSentMe: that's an old article... I know there are many things which have changed since it's initial authoring.
[07:58] <gnomefreak> uXp: no
[07:58] <kiroh__> :'(
[07:58] <gnomefreak> you dont add those to the new install
[07:58] <KenSentMe> GoDawgs: ah, ok. Didn't know that
[07:58] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  it's a gzip file
[07:58] <Sir_Osvald> Need help please :O
[07:58] <gnomefreak> uXp: asnd they will sit there anyway
[07:58] <GoDawgs> KenSentMe: *smile*  Thanks for trying though... :)
[07:58] <Sir_Osvald> need help about ubuntu please ;)
[07:58] <ic56> !justask
[07:58] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[07:58] <eyequeue> !just ask
[07:58] <KenSentMe> Sir_Osvald: just ask your question
[07:58] <ubotu> eyequeue: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:58] <gnomefreak> uXp: think of home dir like documents dir in windows the files are saved there thats all
[07:59] <GoDawgs> KenSentMe: I understood that the broadcom driver had been cracked... but I'm not sure how to utilize it
[07:59] <yalu> ubuntu doesn't ship lndir? I'm going to kill someone
[07:59] <e1z0> how to install winamp on ubuntu ?
[07:59] <e1z0> ;-0
[07:59] <uXp> so the compz and xgl would still be in my home dir?
[07:59] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  oops, sorry I thought you meant the codec pack
[07:59] <rubia__yo> server irc.irc-hispano.org
[07:59] <uXp> correct
[07:59] <rubia__yo> join #granada
[07:59] <gnomefreak> uXp: back up things you want to keep the same
[07:59] <KenSentMe> GoDawgs: can't help you with that, i only new there was a ubotu message about broadcom
[07:59] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  yeah, mplayer can install using apt-get
[07:59] <uXp> iight
[07:59] <eyequeue> yalu, how does that differ from ln?
[07:59] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, :D
[07:59] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  codecs are a gzip file
[07:59] <ajax4> elz0: You can use wine to use winamp directly or use XMMS, which is very similar.
[07:59] <gnomefreak> uXp: i have changed alot of my config files so in my case i back up full home dir
[07:59] <uXp> so if i were to restore the home settings i would be able to use xg; and compiz again right?
[07:59] <ic56> yalu: you can use link(1)
[08:00] <Don> hi
[08:00] <gnomefreak> uXp: not unless you installed it
[08:00] <akulah> Ubuntu benefits from a strong Debian, and Debian benefits from a strong Ubuntu. - MarkShuttleworth
[08:00] <spikebike> anyone have googleearth, ubuntu, and amd64 happy?
[08:00] <uXp> ah, all those fiels agai
[08:00] <akulah> Every Debian developer is also an Ubuntu developer, because one way to contribute to Ubuntu is to contribute to Debian. - MarkShuttleworth
[08:00] <uXp> files again
[08:00] <akulah> :))
[08:00] <LiteHedded> can someone help me with my ati problem?
[08:00] <ic56> !justask
[08:00] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[08:00] <linux_newbie> when I try to open localhost/index.html it says "you dont have permission to access /index.html on this server. I set group, own and 770 to my user login and it still says I got no permission
[08:00] <yalu> eyequeue: well lndir does entire directories
[08:00] <R0cK3T> gnomefreak: and that backs up all ur desktop settings, icons, etc..?
[08:00] <KenSentMe> !tell LiteHedded about ati
[08:00] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, and why will mplayer work and the others no????
[08:00] <pike_> akulah: the debian guys disagree with that a little i hear :)
[08:00] <eyequeue> yalu, and you can't do that with ln?  i thought you could :)
[08:00] <gnomefreak> uXp: open your home dir hit ctrl+h and look at all the files back up any that you made or changed
[08:00] <LiteHedded> I did just ask
[08:00] <linux_newbie> apache2 on ubuntu
[08:01] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  also worth installing mozilla-mplayer aswell, it will then handle embedded media in firefox
[08:01] <Stormx2> Looks like I'm gonna have to reinstall grub.
[08:01] <yalu> eyequeue: I thonght that's why lndir existed
[08:01] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  cause mplayer is god
[08:01] <LiteHedded> but allow me to expand
[08:01] <Stormx2> How do I look at my boot sectore from an ubuntu live CD?
[08:01] <ic56> yalu: you can use link(1)
[08:01] <LiteHedded> my ati isn't working after following the install instructions on the wiki
[08:01] <eyequeue> yalu, i just did: mkdir fooo && ln -s fooo barr  here
[08:02] <gnomefreak> R0cK3T: that im not sure i dont know if your icons will be there if the app isnt installed
[08:02] <ron_o_> Stormx2, try /boot
[08:02] <noiz777> eyequeue, it says it cant open the file...i would like to be able to have full permission to edit the hole folder
[08:02] <rubia__yo> server irc.irc-hispano.org
[08:02] <Linuxn00b> i need to restore my grapich settings
[08:02] <rubia__yo> join #sexo
[08:02] <Linuxn00b> *graphic
[08:02] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, ok i hope it will work ... i use ubuntu since 1 or more years and when i want to see videos i must switch to wondows :(
[08:02] <Stormx2> ron_o_: Isn't that a live CD thing though? Not actually the boot sector of my HDD?
[08:02] <pike_> noiz777: what is the folder location?
[08:02] <uXp> yea gnomefreak iight thx
[08:02] <eyequeue> rubia__yo, please don't spam here
[08:03] <noiz777> pike_, /opt/lampp/htdocs
[08:03] <gnomefreak> slow down!!
[08:03] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:03] <stefan_> can I change bios settings on linux?
[08:03] <linux_newbie> does anyone know why I got no permission to open localhost/test.html from var/www/ (apache2) although I set chown and chgroup and chmod 770 on the www folder?
[08:04] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, if you run XChat, I can fire you a copy of the op script ompaul just used :)
[08:04] <NoUse> stefan_ you need to use your BIOS program
[08:04] <ic56> eyequeue: your example creates a soft link.  yalu explicitly requested lndir which is used to create hardlinks to directories.  ln(1) has error-checking code inside it preventing it from doing that, so one must use either lndir or link.  The latter is a lower level tool, akin to what ln(1) used to do in system7 times.
[08:04] <linux_newbie> chown and chgroup to my user login
[08:04] <gnomefreak> i have one
[08:04] <R0cK3T> gnomefreak: i mean as far as a defualt install, then replace home dir, will that save desktop settings? example: panel transparency settings, and icon placement in the panels
[08:04] <gnomefreak> i was fixing a cd
[08:04] <stefan_> NoUse: thanks
[08:04] <ompaul> Madpilot, I gave it to him :-)
[08:04] <IIIEars> lol
[08:04] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, OK, never mind :)
[08:05] <eyequeue> ic56, thanks.  i'm typically a softlink guy heh
[08:05] <www> Hi again
[08:05] <www> Messed up yet again
[08:05] <GoDawgs> cafuego__: thoreauputic sent me an IM that you did a page on the new broadcom info... however, I have it bookmarked on the windows side of my partition.  Can you fire that link to me?
[08:05] <LiteHedded> can anyone help me get 3d acceleration working
[08:05] <www> Can someone send me a <working> copy of the .xsession file? Ubuntu Dapper's default one if possible.
[08:05] <NoUse> LiteHedded specifics? what kind of card?
[08:05] <ic56> eyequeue: hard links execute faster and use less space.  However, they cannot cross filesystem boundaries -- this is why symlinks were invented.
[08:05] <LiteHedded> ati
[08:06] <rixxon> my laptop has an ir port, but no /dev/irda ?
[08:06] <LiteHedded> i followed the instructions on the wiki and still showing the mesa drivers
[08:06] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, can you guide me installing the codecs?? i'm not so good installing tarballs
[08:06] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  just extract the file to a folder
[08:07] <eyequeue> ic56, df has 13 lines here, so i tend to work presuming the possibility of being on a different fs
[08:07] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, but i most download it to a folder src???
[08:07] <Linuturk> i've got a barcode scanner that isn't working correctly. do i need to configure it?
[08:07] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  have you downloaded the codecs?
[08:07] <LiteHedded> any ideas NoUse?
[08:07] <loanwolf> ? isent ubuntu dapper drake supose to be a fast running distro
[08:08] <eyequeue> loanwolf, it's a gui
[08:08] <Spaceraverlinux> loanwolf, it is tbh
[08:08] <jZed> is this right way to upgrade from Hoary to Dapper: get Dapper sources.list, apt-get update; apt-get upgrade?
[08:08] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, because i wll know where
[08:08] <eyequeue> jZed, no
[08:08] <jZed> how then?
[08:08] <R0cK3T> gnomefreak: i mean as far as a defualt install, then replace home dir, will that save desktop settings? example: panel transparency settings, and icon placement in the panels?
[08:08] <NoUse> LiteHedded pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log files
[08:08] <eyequeue> jZed, hoary > breezy, then breezy > dapper
[08:09] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  the easiest way to extract the archive is to right click the file and click 'extract here'
[08:09] <NoUse> !tell LiteHedded about pastebin
[08:09] <ecker> Where can i get the exact  HorizSync / VertRefresh for my monitor, I googled and googled ..
[08:09] <gnomefreak> R0cK3T: not sure what file/files control that
[08:09] <kiroh__> ok
[08:09] <jZed> I have to install breezy even though I don't want it?
[08:09] <R0cK3T> iight ;)
[08:09] <ecker> its for my IBM THINKPAD
[08:09] <user_> I have tooth ache , help please!
[08:09] <www> Can someone send me a <working> copy of the .xsession file? Ubuntu Dapper's default one if possible.
[08:09] <eyequeue> jZed, multi-release jumps are not supported and will cause breakage
[08:09] <IIIEars> Linuturk: Is this link relevant? http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-09-01-012-06-NW-CY
[08:09] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  you will then have a folder called 'essential-20060501'
[08:09] <gnomefreak> user_: join #ubuntu-offtopic to whine please
[08:09] <loanwolf> was just woundering sence i been runing mandriva 2006..installed dapper drake the otherday...and it was 3 times slower at opening apps then mandriva...
[08:09] <jZed> ok, but same routine ... sources.list,update,upgrade?
[08:10] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, can it be in the desktop too???
[08:10] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm having trouble connecting to a network printer.
[08:10] <ajax4> loanwolf: I upgraded to dapper from Mandriva 2006 also. It was noticably faster for me.
[08:10] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  desktop or home folder, all the same
[08:10] <pike_> jZed: last part is apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:10] <eyequeue> jZed, yes, one-release jumps only, but the technique is the same
[08:10] <seanism> i just installed compiz and that sped up my laptop
[08:10] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  open the folder and select all the files
[08:10] <seanism> a bit
[08:10] <Tonren> Windows XP connects to it fine as "Printer Name or IP Address" 192.168.2.1 (that's myd efault network gateway), LPR protocol, Queue name LPT1.  But I don't see an LPR protocol option in ubuntu printing, only LPD.
[08:10] <ic56> : :-) I understand.  I learned unix with only hardlinks available and I rather like the elegance of zcat occupying a mere 8 extra bytes inside an already existing /bin directory and executing the gzip executable with zero overhead.  Then again.  I'm writing this on a PentiumMMX.
[08:10] <ecker> Where can i get the exact  HorizSync / VertRefresh for my IBM thinkpad laptop, I googled and googled ..
[08:11] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  right click on one of the selected files and click 'copy'
[08:11] <user_> Help, i did a dvdrip and now i can't logon my user account
[08:11] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, ok
[08:11] <Tonren> Any suggestions?
[08:11] <eyequeue> jZed, and as pike_ so appropriately pointed out, dist-upgrade contains extra code to handle things needed during release-to-release steps
[08:11] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, and then
[08:11] <NoUse> user_ do you get an error message?
[08:11] <ic56> ecker: try google site:ibm.com thinkpad sync
[08:11] <loanwolf> ajax4: where do i change my monitor at...its detecting generic and runing vesa
[08:11] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  open a console, then type 'sudo nautilus'
[08:11] <blakcheez> I keep getting this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:12] <GoDawgs> hey ya'll... what's the difference in Mplayer and KMplayer?
[08:12] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, i don't have much more time
[08:12] <GoDawgs> is KMPlayer for KDE?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> blakcheez: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:12] <seanism> did you use sudo
[08:12] <mindspit> hallo!
[08:12] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  navigate to /usr/lib/
[08:12] <mindspit> new to ubuntu
[08:12] <Linuturk> IIIEars, slightly. I have the cuecat, but it has been modified to spit out plain ASCII text. it works fine in windows, but in ubuntu, i get different numbers everytime
[08:12] <eyequeue> blakcheez, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:12] <LiteHedded> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15665
[08:12] <seanism> anyone know of any apps to change wireless settings in ubuntu
[08:12] <mindspit> want to get more sources for the apt
[08:12] <seanism> besides the network config
[08:12] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  create a folder called win32 in there, move into the folder and right click and click paste
[08:12] <blakcheez> thanks
[08:12] <jZed> k, thanks for the info
[08:12] <pike_> GoDawgs: mplayer is not a gui kmplayer ads a nice layer of bloat to your movie watching
[08:12] <noiz777> kensentme, pike_, thanks for the help to both of you...let me see if i understand, i can run commands with sudo and gui's with gksudo, but i can never work on a folder as root
[08:13] <Psychobudgie> pike_:  mplayer has several gui's
[08:13] <mindspit> MORE INSTALLATION SOURCES  FOR APT-GET ?
[08:13] <Bitlooter> Can't logon to ubuntu,help please
[08:13] <GoDawgs> pike_: ok... and that's what I need for internet audio streams too right?
[08:13] <Psychobudgie> the ubuntu mplayer package comes with the standard gui
[08:13] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, i alredy have a folder called win32
[08:13] <pike_> noiz777: i us sudo -s or sudo -i for what amounts to a root terminal then just type exit when done
[08:13] <ajax4> loanwolf: Don't know offhand, though I'll look.
[08:14] <gnomefreak> mindspit: drop the caps please
[08:14] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:   move into it and put all the files you just copied into it
[08:14] <Tonren> hey, can anyone help me out with printer configuration?
[08:14] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  right click and paste or press ctrl-v
[08:14] <pike_> GoDawgs: using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:14] <Bitlooter> Ubuntu help please
[08:14] <Linuturk> i've got a barcode scanner that isn't working correctly. do i need to configure it?
[08:14] <loanwolf> ajax4: ok thanks...i know that probly has something to do with speed
[08:14] <Linuturk> IIIEars, slightly. I have the cuecat, but it has been modified to spit out plain ASCII text. it works fine in windows, but in ubuntu, i get different numbers everytime
[08:14] <noiz777> pike_, ok, ill try that
[08:14] <GoDawgs> pike_: ubuntu
[08:14] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  now run mplayer and try and play your movie
[08:14] <ompaul> !tell mindspit about repos
[08:15] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  should be hunky dory
[08:15] <LiteHedded> NoUse it's not letting me paste the second file on the pastebin
[08:15] <NoUse> LiteHedded and the /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[08:15] <pike_> GoDawgs: you and to be able to stream these from firefox?
[08:15] <GoDawgs> pike_: yes
[08:15] <ompaul> !tell mindspit about easysource
[08:15] <NoUse> LiteHedded what error are you getting?
[08:15] <LiteHedded> it's telling me no text given or image uploaded
[08:15] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  mplayer will play pretty much anything as long as the windows codec is there
[08:15] <GoDawgs> pike_: i'm hoping though to just get a direct URL so I can do it through a player
[08:15] <LiteHedded> but I pasted the whole file
[08:15] <pike_> GoDawgs: apt-get install mozilla-mplayer i think the package is
[08:15] <ompaul> mindspit, read the messages ubotu just sent you
[08:15] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, must i overwrite some files???
[08:15] <Bitlooter> Ubuntu help
[08:15] <NoUse> LiteHedded reload the page and try agian
[08:15] <LiteHedded> k
[08:15] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  yeah
[08:15] <GoDawgs> pike_: Ok... let me check that out.
[08:15] <ompaul> mindspit, and don't use caps lock thanks
[08:15] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  just bung in that archive
[08:16] <LiteHedded> still not working
[08:16] <www> Can someone send me a <working> copy of the .xsession file? Ubuntu Dapper's default one if possible.
[08:16] <LiteHedded> i dunno wtf is going on
[08:16] <LiteHedded> i can dcc it to you?
[08:16] <pike_> GoDawgs: for internet radio stations use streamtuner it works with xmms and is very nice.
[08:16] <ompaul> n00b stop with the nick spam
[08:16] <kallei> I am trying to set my dpi correct in by adjusting DisplaySize in /etc/X11/xorg.conf   but it seems as the directive is ignored. xpdyinfo | grep resulotion gives a  85x86 dpi...not good
[08:16] <kallei> am i doing something wrong?
[08:17] <blakcheez> *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[08:17] <reid> What is a good image burner that supports .bin/.cue?
[08:17] <blakcheez> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[08:17] <blakcheez> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[08:17] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, it says could not initialise video filters or video output
[08:17] <GoDawgs> pike_: ok... let me check that out now... thank you!
[08:17] <kallei> in my xorg.conf i have DisplaySize 338   270  under [Monitor] 
[08:17] <ajax4> loanwolf: I can't find that option. Though it won't speed up your system.
[08:17] <eyequeue> reid, k3b
[08:17] <blakcheez> how do I install glib?
[08:17] <Bitlooter> Ubuntu ????
[08:17] <LiteHedded> still with me NoUse? :D
[08:17] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, -vf or -vo
[08:18] <loanwolf> ok
[08:18] <reid> eyequeue I have used K3b before, but will it work ok in Gnome?
[08:18] <blakcheez> how do I install glib?
[08:18] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  are you running mplayer from command line or from the applications menu?
[08:18] <NoUse> LiteHedded Please put my nick in messages that are intended for me, otherwise I'll miss them
[08:18] <kiroh__> from the applications menu
[08:18] <crimsun_> blakcheez: unless you're using Kubuntu, glib is already installed
[08:18] <elknof1> hi everybody
[08:18] <LiteHedded> NoUse: i can't paste the second file. I can dcc it to you?
[08:18] <NoUse> LiteHedded paste it in #flood
[08:18] <eyequeue> blakcheez, for compiling?  sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[08:18] <noiz777> i find so complicated this sudo thing..ill explain what i need to do better and you tell me if there is a better answer please. i have my htdocs on windows but i want to make a copy on linux that i can use as well, how do i make this copy if my htdocs in linux is under /opt/lampp/
[08:18] <LiteHedded> ok
[08:19] <allen> where can I find what hardware I am running ?
[08:19] <elknof1> does anyone knows how to install w32codecs to dapper using xine?
[08:19] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie,from the applications menu
[08:19] <reid> Will K3b work ok in Gnome?
[08:19] <jahshua> yes
[08:19] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  what version of ubuntu?
[08:19] <reid> Thanks
[08:19] <kiroh__> dapper
[08:19] <zubunt> Hello. I have issues with my ATI gfx card and ubuntu dapper drake.
[08:19] <eyequeue> !tell elkbuntu about saveas
[08:19] <joe_> can someone send me the link on how to use this new LAMP tool
[08:19] <blakcheez> eyequeue, thanks
[08:19] <eyequeue> !tell elkbuntu about seveas
[08:19] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, dapper
[08:19] <ompaul> allen, sudo lshw
[08:19] <compuforums> Can someone send me a <working> copy of the .xsession file? Ubuntu Dapper's default one if possible.
[08:19] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  weird
[08:19] <LiteHedded> NoUse: are you in #flood?
[08:19] <eyequeue> blakcheez, no prob
[08:19] <kiroh__> :''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''(
[08:20] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  it should default to your default video output
[08:20] <joe_> can anyone help me out with how to use the new LAMP tool?
[08:20] <zubunt> elknof1: Yes. Download packe and install it using dpkg
[08:20] <ompaul> LiteHedded, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give the url of the paste, as it lasts longer
[08:20] <rafa> hola eres un chico o chica
[08:20] <math> hello?
[08:20] <rafa> eres ingles
[08:20] <eyequeue> compuforums, i see no ~/.xsession here
[08:20] <LiteHedded> the patebin isn't working ompaul
[08:20] <NoUse> LiteHedded yes
[08:20] <Madpilot> !es
[08:20] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:20] <ompaul> rafa we speak english here
[08:21] <ic56> !justask
[08:21] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[08:21] <zubunt> fglrx drivers do not work (r200 bug) and gpl drivers freeze when using open gl apllications. Does anyone now a solution?
[08:21] <math> ubuntu 6.06 doesnt work here
[08:21] <Lpadmin> Is there a Linux program that can open .dwg files?
[08:21] <ompaul> LiteHedded, it is
[08:21] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, ok i must go now, please if you know what is it, send me an e-mail to kiroh.cg@gmail.com
[08:21] <allen> Is there a quick way to install sis drivers?
[08:21] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__: if you right click on the mplayer window, open the preferences and check the video settings
[08:21] <compuforums> eyequeue, it's in your home directory, if you can't find it, try pressing Ctrl and H to get the hidden files.
[08:21] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__: if you right click on the mplayer window, open the preferences and check the video settings, by default should be XV
[08:21] <elknof1> zubunt, what package??
[08:22] <mindspit> so is there an easy way to get those unstable (not necessarily binary-compatible) ... can i get such an apt-get installation source ?
[08:22] <rafa> hola me llamo ray tu que eres chico o chica
[08:22] <ajax4> Lpadmin: Try Qcad
[08:22] <blakcheez> eyequeue: *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[08:22] <blakcheez> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[08:22] <blakcheez> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[08:22] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, yes, it is
[08:22] <zubunt> elknof1: The w32codecs package. I thing its available from ftp.nerim.net
[08:22] <eyequeue> compuforums, i see no ~/.xsession here, just ~/.xsession-errors
[08:22] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  what graphics card are you using?
[08:23] <ic56> compuforums: I'm on breezy with GNOME.  I too don't have a ~/.xsession.  Only /etc/X11/Xsession .
[08:23] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, old, i dont know what
[08:23] <zubunt> elknof1: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[08:23] <compuforums> ic56,do you think it could have changed for Dapper?
[08:23] <blakcheez> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[08:23] <blakcheez> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[08:23] <blakcheez> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[08:23] <Psychobudgie> kiroh__:  may be down to your drivers then, try changing the video settings
[08:23] <rafa> hola soy un hombre  sortero
[08:23] <eyequeue> compuforums, sudo apt-get --reinstall install cdm should get you the original /etc/gdm/Xsession, if that helps
[08:23] <allen> Where could I look to find if ubuntu has drivers for my notebook?
[08:23] <NegativeSpace> Is it possible to defrag the disk?
[08:23] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, ok thanks a lot
[08:23] <ic56> compuforums: it's possible but I see no reason for it.
[08:23] <ajax4> rafa: eres un hombre menso
[08:23] <kiroh__> Psychobudgie, bye
[08:23] <compuforums> eyequeue, I'll try that now.
[08:23] <ic56> !es
[08:23] <math> can somebody tell me why ubuntu 5.10 finds my SATE disk and 6.06 doesnt??
[08:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:24] <elknof1> zubunt, yeah i added it to the sources.list, but it gives me an error un that line, i guess cause it is for hoary
[08:24] <noiz777> exit
[08:24] <IIIEars> Okay, I need a linux 101 - How do i search this directory?  /KAYFM British and American 80s Hit's  Got a link?
[08:24] <compuforums> E: Couldn't find package cdm
[08:24] <joe_> can anyone link me to a LAMP how-to?
[08:24] <zubunt> elknof1: Yes. Download that package manually and install it with dpkg (or gdebi???)
[08:24] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell joe_ about lamp
[08:25] <GoDawgs> pike_: can xmms handle asf files?
[08:25] <joe_> thanks
[08:25] <rafa> hola soy un hombre sortero como eres
[08:25] <IIIEars> MadPilot - Did you see suPHP?
[08:25] <pike_> IIIEars: you want to search a directory for a specific file?
[08:25] <blakcheez> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[08:25] <blakcheez> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[08:25] <blakcheez> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[08:25] <rafa> yes
[08:25] <ic56> IIIEars: which directory?  Is it on a local disk?  And what do you mean by "search".
[08:25] <Madpilot> IIIEars, what?
[08:25] <rafa> an rafa
[08:25] <pike_> GoDawgs: if you have codecs installed most yes some problems with asf occationally
[08:25] <compuforums> eyequeue, got Package not Found.
[08:25] <zubunt> Who has a ati r200 running stable with dapper?
[08:25] <GoDawgs> pike ok...
[08:25] <ajax4> rafa: hay no chicas aqui
[08:26] <rafa> embia foto
[08:26] <NegativeSpace> How can I defragment the disk?
[08:26] <eyequeue> IIIEars, i would slash k a tab .... it will austo-complete, and backslash-escape the spaces
[08:26] <GoDawgs> pike_: i installed easyubuntu stuff, does it come with asf?
[08:26] <IIIEars> ic56 - I think it is the   '  in the directory name. How do i escape it?
[08:26] <zubunt> NegativeSpace: What king of filesystem
[08:26] <NoUse> NegativeSpace your linux disk?
[08:26] <GoDawgs> pike_: if not, where do I get it?
[08:26] <Tonren> hey guys, can anyone help me out with printing setup?  I have my printer attached to an SMC Barricade G wireless router, and my Windows XP can print to it, but I an't figure out how to get Ubuntu to do it
[08:26] <ic56> IIIEars: with a backslash (\)
[08:26] <NegativeSpace> NoUse -- Aye
[08:26] <NoUse> NegativeSpace no need
[08:26] <NegativeSpace> zubunt -- ext3 I think.
[08:26] <SAM_theman> Yo why can't I watch .wmv files???
[08:26] <blakcheez> eyequeue: what does this mean?
[08:26] <NegativeSpace> NoUse: no?
[08:26] <blakcheez> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[08:26] <blakcheez> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[08:26] <blakcheez> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[08:26] <tybalt> You dont need to defrag ext3
[08:27] <IIIEars> ic56 - Cool. - yep that did it.
[08:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell SAM_theman -about wmv
[08:27] <NoUse> NegativeSpace ext3 doesn't fragment
[08:27] <ajax4> SAM_theman: You probably don't have the right codecs installed.
[08:27] <SAM_theman> I trying to watch this cool new paintball gun is selling to me
[08:27] <ic56> IIIEars: if you're working on the command line, keep in mind that spaces also need to be escaped.
[08:27] <gnomefreak> blakcheez: stop that paste it on pastebin and give us the link
[08:27] <tybalt> ext3 wasn't made my M$, meaning it doesn't suck
[08:27] <zubunt> NegativeSpace: There is allmost no need for defragmentation
[08:27] <SAM_theman> its a Tipman 98
[08:27] <Lpadmin> Ajax4, it can only open .dxf and .cxf files, but thank you.
[08:27] <IIIEars> ic56 - %20 yes?
[08:28] <Bazzi> NoUse: proof, please
[08:28] <pike_> GoDawgs: usually if you have problem it would be an issue with the w32codec package you installed but asf can mean diff formats.. are you getting an error?
[08:28] <ajax4> Lpadmin, wait I'm sure I can find one that will work. Hang on.
[08:28] <ic56> IIIEars: "%20" as a method to escape spaces on the command line?  for accessing local files?  I don't think so!
[08:28] <GoDawgs> pike_: yes, it's saying that totem can't play it...
[08:28] <NoUse> Bazzi google ext3 fragmentation
[08:28] <blakcheez> http://pastebin.com/707024
[08:28] <GoDawgs> pike_: i'm not sure how to tell firefox to open up xmms to play it though
[08:28] <IIIEars> ic56 - rofl - glad i asked. - How do you do that?
[08:29] <krazykit> NoUse: actually, ext3 does fragment, it just does it less.  the filesystem is smart enough to prevent a lot of fragmentation, and works to keep it defragmented, but ANY filesystem can become fragmented.
[08:29] <zubunt> ext3 does fragment. But normaly only to a very mild degree that makes defrag tools redundant.
[08:29] <calamari> how does name resolution work under ubuntu?
[08:29] <SAM_theman> gnomefreak, thanks
[08:29] <pike_> GoDawgs: what is the url of the asf file?
[08:29] <rafa> dime tu nombre verdadero
[08:29] <math> iemand nederlands hier?
[08:30] <GoDawgs> pike_: http://ccri.eonstreams.com/ccri_ca_losangeles_kfi_am.asf
[08:30] <Linuxn00b> why cant i access my harddisk?
[08:30] <ic56> IIIEars: escape a space by preceding by a backslash.  Two spaces in a row must each be preceded by its own backslash.  If you've got to many things to escape, easier if you quote the entire string.
[08:30] <NoUse> krazykit and to a newbie, does that matter?
[08:30] <NegativeSpace> zubunt, NoUse: Awesome, thanks.
[08:30] <blakcheez> http://pastebin.com/707024
[08:30] <krazykit> NoUse: no, they just need to know that it doesn't fragment enough to need defraggers
[08:31] <rafa> hola me llamo rafa quiero pasar un rato quon tigo
[08:31] <Linuxn00b> why cant i access my harddisk?
[08:31] <Stormx2> Getting very sick of this.
[08:31] <Stormx2> Gonna have to reinstall dapper soon.
[08:31] <docta_v> how can i add an entry for Google Earth to my applications menu?
[08:31] <zubunt> There are seldom use patterns that can lead to serius fragmentation, but thats a very rare case with ext3
[08:31] <nik> hello - currently I'm configuring the kernel; Power Management -> ACPI -> Video, the help says: This driver implement the ACPI Extensions For Display Adapters for integrated graphics devices on motherboard - I've a dell inspiron 8600 laptop with an ati radeon mobility 9600...does make it sense to activate this option?
[08:31] <Stormx2> not something I'm very happy about.
[08:32] <IIIEars> ic56 - Thank You (This is going to help a lot with bash scripting.) How long have you been using linux?
[08:32] <Tonren> lo siento rafa, pero aqui solamente hablamos en ingles.
[08:32] <NoUse> LiteHedded you screen has the wrong device listed, its still pointed to 'ati' module
[08:32] <zubunt> Has anyone an Idea why the gpld ati drivers regularly freeze my ubuntu?
[08:32] <rafa> pues habrar en espaol
[08:32] <tybalt> One time I spent 2 hours trying to figure out why my new HDD didn't get recognized, then I realized I didn't connect the power cable
[08:33] <krazykit> rafa: #ubuntu-es ?
[08:33] <Jowi> !info defrag
[08:33] <biff> does anyone know why i might be getting a frequent blue flicker in my screen?
[08:33] <ubotu> defrag: (ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 0.73pjm1-7 (dapper), Packaged size: 66 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[08:33] <ic56> IIIEars: Windows command line escapes spaces with quotes.  Fundamentally, filenames with spaces in them clash with the way command line parsers work.  These parsers work that way because it's convenient for humans to use spaces to separate command verbs and parameters -- the space bar is an easy to reach key.
[08:33] <Stormx2> :( I think... hmm...
[08:33] <brain79>  hola todos
[08:33] <ghozt> is there a universal wireless network driver?
[08:33] <krazykit> ghozt: nope.
[08:33] <ic56> IIIEars: I've been using unix since before Linux was available. 17 years.
[08:33] <Stormx2> Any suggestions people? There appears to be nothing in my hda bootsector and it just hangs when I turn on my computer... Tried reinstalling grub... Its definately in my /boot, but it never gets that far....
[08:34] <compuforums> Could someone send me a copy of .xsession?
[08:34] <IIIEars> Hola rafar! We speak broken spanish here and are glad to help where we can. Much easier in ubuntu espanol see ubotu's link.
[08:34] <IIIEars> !es
[08:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:34] <GoDawgs> pike_ is it a no go?
[08:34] <zubunt> Is there a german channel here?
[08:34] <Tonren> Hey, can anyone help me set up a printer on a wireless print server?
[08:34] <Stormx2> #ubuntu-de i beleive.
[08:34] <krazykit> zubunt: ja, #ubuntu-de
[08:35] <NegativeSpace> Okay I'm a newb, and I'm looking for NetHack -- what's the difference between Qt, GNOME and X versions?
[08:35] <zubunt> Thx. I'll try :-)
[08:35] <krazykit> NegativeSpace: what it looks like
[08:35] <Stormx2> There appears to be nothing in my hda bootsector and it just hangs when I turn on my computer... Tried reinstalling grub... Its definately in my /boot, but it never gets that far.... I don't know what to do
[08:35] <Tonren> How do I specify a new port in connecting to a Local Printer?
[08:35] <ajax4> Lpadmin: sorry, I can't find any software in the Ubuntu repositories that says it views DWG files.
[08:35] <dwight> need help getting amavis to scan emails
[08:35] <NegativeSpace> krazykit: Okay, cool. Cheers.
[08:36] <blakcheez> http://pastebin.com/707024
[08:36] <Lpadmin> Ajax4, thank you for help. ;)
[08:36] <wastrel> i'm using ubuntu
[08:36] <ajax4> Lpadmin: though you might check out this program: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lx-viewer
[08:37] <ajax4> Good luck :)
[08:37] <ic56> Stormx2: have you tried root(hd0)
[08:37] <ic56>  setup(hd0)
[08:37] <ic56>  quit from a grub command line?
[08:37] <dwight> need help getting amavis to scan emails
[08:37] <dra> Blender does start in fullscreen mode in Dapper, but the panels are still on top. Is it possible to get full fullscreen mode?
[08:37] <Tonren> Hey, can anyone help me out setting up a printer?
[08:37] <zubunt> krazykit: Danke :-)
[08:37] <krazykit> zubunt: bitte sehr :-D
[08:38] <ajax4> When I shut down, why does it say that its shutting down "bttrack.bittorrent"? Anyone know?
[08:38] <lilbit> what is the coolest linux game (free) out there?
[08:39] <blkish> hey, does anyone know is there a list of packages to install to get wmv and other video codecs? thanks
[08:39] <yalu> eyequeue: I recommend you read lndir's man page :)
[08:39] <ompaul> ajax4, because your torrentling something?
[08:39] <issy> how do I specify filesystem type to mount a floppy disk?
[08:39] <ompaul> !restricted
[08:39] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[08:39] <zubunt> lilbiz: bzflag and scroched3d are worth a try
[08:39] <HarrisonF> lilbit: bzflag is one of my favorite
[08:39] <ic56> Stormx2: Wow!  Ooops, I meant: have you tried root(hd0,<linux boot partition>) ; setup (hd0) ; quit
[08:39] <ajax4> ompaul: No, I don't even have bittorrent installed. That's what is confusing me.
[08:39] <ompaul> blkish, read that by ubotu ^^ up a few lines
[08:39] <Jowi> !floppy
[08:39] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[08:39] <ompaul> ajax4, you do have a bittorrent client
[08:39] <ic56>  setup (hd0)
[08:39] <ic56>  quit
[08:40] <blkish> ompaul: thanks, i'm interested in the free formats too (most, really!),are they available in the repos?
[08:40] <ic56> issy: mount -f <fstype> ...
[08:40] <NegativeSpace> Has anyone got Nethack installed on their machine?
[08:40] <krazykit> lilbit: crack-attack, dungeon, armagetron, frozen-bubble
[08:40] <ic56> issy: oops: mount -t <fstype> ...
[08:40] <nooby_god> I'm planning to install Ubuntu for a friend
[08:40] <ompaul> !freeformats
[08:40] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:40] <wastrel> nethack
[08:41] <ajax4> NegativeSpace: I have it installed.
[08:41] <Stormx2> OK Guys, heres the thread with my GRUB problems in it! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1133986
[08:41] <nooby_god> what's the biggest resource for Ubuntu documentation?
[08:41] <Spec> wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:41] <Fee^> google
[08:41] <blkish> thanks guys, much appreciated :)
[08:41] <NegativeSpace> ajax: Is it possible to play the ASCII version rather than the graphical?
[08:41] <issy> ic56, how can I tell what fstype it is?
[08:41] <zubunt> nooby_god: google? ;-)
[08:41] <ompaul> !tell Stormx2 about grub
[08:41] <wastrel> NegativeSpace:  nethack-console
[08:41] <nooby_god> I need one site for my friend to visit if he ever has problems
[08:41] <Tonren> Can anyone help me out printing to an IP printer?
[08:41] <root_> i cant access my harddrives can anyone help me
[08:41] <root_> ?
[08:41] <ompaul> Stormx2, its a well known headache
[08:41] <Stormx2> ompaul: Tried that.
[08:41] <krazykit> nooby_god: ubuntuforums
[08:42] <krazykit> root_: ack!  you shouldn't be logged in as root
[08:42] <Spec> nooby_god: wiki.ubuntu.com is very good static documentation, ubuntuforums is pretty good dynamic documentation
[08:42] <LiteHedded> ompaul: not for me
[08:42] <nooby_god> and after some googling I'm not sure if linux-wlan-ng is included with install
[08:42] <LiteHedded> NoUse: any idea on my ati issue?
[08:42] <nooby_god> is it included?
[08:42] <ajax4> ompaul: Ok, its installed but its not running.
[08:42] <nooby_god> thanks Spec
[08:42] <LiteHedded> can anyone help me get ati working?
[08:42] <NegativeSpace> wastrel: I'm far too stupid to know what you mean.
[08:42] <Stormx2> ompaul: been through basicly every step in the entire wiki... even the troubleshooting bit at the end.
[08:42] <root_> and can anyone how i logon root from gnome?
[08:42] <zippz0r> i seem to be having a small prob with the resolution now, i cant get it changed to 1280x1024, not even after i add it to xorg.conf and reboot
[08:42] <wastrel> NegativeSpace:  that's a package name, install the package 100%
[08:42] <LiteHedded> ok NoUse. how do I change it?
[08:42] <ompaul> Stormx2, not having windows I can't find a menu.lst that works
[08:42] <ic56> issy: you can't with the standard utils.  However, if you try to mount it without specifying, a type, mount will automatically try all known types and complain if none work.
[08:42] <LiteHedded> NoUse: how do I change the device? i assume it needs fglrx or something?
[08:42] <ajax4> ompaul: and definitely not running a tracker as bttrack would suggest.
[08:42] <LiteHedded> my screen has the wrong device listed. it's still pointing to ati can someone help me fix this?
[08:42] <zubunt> LiteHedded: I also ahve problems :-( Ati sucks.
[08:42] <keck0f> if i boot "6.06-alternate" networkcard does not get an ip from dhcp-server. if i boot "6.06-desktop" networkcard does get an ip from the dhcp-server. why?
[08:42] <Jowi> issy: did you try "auto" as suggested in "man mount"?
[08:43] <LiteHedded> worked in breezy fine
[08:43] <LiteHedded> after the upgrade not so much
[08:43] <Spec> issy: what are you trying to mount that you don't know the filesystem for?
[08:43] <NegativeSpace> wastrel: Ah, excellent. Thanks.
[08:43] <ompaul> ajax4, is anyone else allowed a logon to that box?
[08:43] <francis__> hi, i experience serious lag when running snes emulator since the dapper upgrade, ive used different settings in zsnes and snes9express, and its still the same lag, ive even compiled my own zsnes, all it gave me was sound (which i didnt have) and thats all, same lag in every situation, does anyone knows a workaround for this ? or can tell me what to look for ?
[08:43] <issy> Spec: floppy disk
[08:43] <ajax4> ompaul: Nope.
[08:43] <Stormx2> ompaul: Well I think it would spit out an error if my menu.lst was incorrect? Plus it hasn't changed since I installed XP. XP is in the place of Windows 98, my windows 2000 is still there, and that was the only other entry in my menu.lst except form the ubuntu stuff
[08:43] <zubunt> LiteHedded: Try deconf - that will create a new xorg.copnf
[08:43] <issy> Jowi, didn't see that in man mount
[08:43] <zubunt> dexconf - sorry
[08:43] <blakcheez> http://pastebin.com/707024
[08:44] <NoUse> LiteHedded look at the screen section
[08:44] <ompaul> Stormx2, then it should work the same as the 2k entry afik
[08:44] <LiteHedded> of my xorg.conf NoUse?
[08:44] <NoUse> LiteHedded it has a device name, you'll see it points to one of the two device sections above
[08:44] <NoUse> LiteHedded yes
[08:44] <ompaul> ajax4, do this  in a terminal  >> ps auwx | grep torrent
[08:44] <NoUse> LiteHedded it needs to point to the device that has the fglx driver
[08:44] <LiteHedded> Section "Screen" Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] " Device     "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 NP [Mobility Radeon 9600/9700 M10/M11] "
[08:44] <Bassetts> on boot all my filesystems had the error that they had been mounted more than  30 times and a check was forced, why would this happen?
[08:44] <ompaul> Al-Daja-aWay, dont use auto aways here turn it off now please
[08:45] <Stormx2> ompaul: Except, GRUB never loads!
[08:45] <ic56> Stormx2: have you installed the grub bootloader on your Master Boot Record?
[08:45] <Stormx2> I think so.
[08:45] <Stormx2> Yeah
[08:45] <ajax4> ompaul: the only process that returns is the grep itself. How do I view the log messages upon shutdown so I can show you?
[08:45] <LiteHedded> NoUse: what should I change there?
[08:45] <erich> the new graphical ubuntu installer (dapper), can it resize fat and ext3 partitions?
[08:45] <Sh4d0> i'm getting a bit ****ing tired of this
[08:45] <NoUse> LiteHedded change it to the name of the device with the fglx driver
[08:45] <Stormx2> setup(hd0)
[08:45] <ompaul> Al-Daja, is that turned off now?
[08:45] <Stormx2> Didn't work.
[08:45] <LiteHedded> NoUse: I'm not sure what that means. sorry
[08:46] <ompaul> ajax4, never looked for a shutdown log in my life
[08:46] <Sh4d0> this is the third time i've installed ubuntu, and it isn't recognising the user i created during install, says the password is empty and prompts for a new one, then says the user doesn't exist and loops back to the prompt
[08:46] <nooby_god> is there away to setup ubuntu that a lot of the tech stuff is transparent?
[08:46] <wastrel> linux is all about reinstalling
[08:46] <NoUse> LiteHedded in teh Screen section change Device to "aticonfig-Device[0] "
[08:46] <wastrel> at least at first.
[08:46] <ajax4> ompaul: Okay, I just found that was a weird message. You obviously don't get that when you shut down right?
[08:46] <ajax4> wastrel: no, WIndows is all about reinstalling.
[08:46] <ompaul> ajax4, not that I am aware of
[08:46] <LiteHedded> oh ok
[08:46] <wastrel> ajax4:  no, linux is about reinstalling
[08:47] <Rambo3> Sh4d0: how about login in recovery and fixing it?
[08:47] <nooby_god> linux is about reinstalling
[08:47] <DarkRavenMixage> ink how can i assign the ed2k protocol to amule, to assign ed2k links to amule directly?
[08:47] <Sh4d0> how the hell do i do that
[08:47] <nooby_god> always
[08:47] <ompaul> nooby_god, wrong
[08:47] <wastrel> oh yeah
[08:47] <NoUse> nooby_god I don't reinstall very often at all
[08:47] <ic56> Stormx2: if nothing seems to work, you need to tell us a lot more.  For starters, we'll need a description of the disks and partitition layouts on your box.  Also a copy of /boot/grub/menu.lst  Finally, a record of what you did to install the grub bootloaders on your disk.  With all that information assembled in one place, a more considered opinion could be offered.
[08:47] <ajax4> wastrel: Linux you can reinstall if you want. Windows you HAVE to reinstall regularly.
[08:47] <Madpilot> nooby_god, really? I've done it once in 14 months...
[08:47] <LiteHedded> NoUse: now it says Device     "aticonfig-Device[0] "
[08:47] <LiteHedded> is that correct?
[08:47] <ompaul> wastrel, its not - as ajax4 points to
[08:47] <nooby_god> ompaul: I've been a linux user for 7 or 8 years, there is always some damn reason to reintsall
[08:47] <wastrel> ajax4:  linux you reinstall several times before you get it right
[08:47] <erich> nooby_god: I've in fact had less OS installs than PCs since running Debian...
[08:47] <NoUse> LiteHedded in the screen section, yes
[08:48] <LiteHedded> yes in the screen section
[08:48] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: how do i do that
[08:48] <Rambo3> Sh4d0: in grub choose recovery , and type startex , open account managment and fix it
[08:48] <LiteHedded> so restart x now?
[08:48] <ompaul> nooby_god, you need to look at how your using it then
[08:48] <NoUse> LiteHedded yes
[08:48] <wastrel> ajax4:  don't ask me how many times i installed slack, rh5 etc when i was getting started
[08:48] <erich> nooby_god: copied the OS over from one HD to the next, eventually replacing the rest of the PC.
[08:48] <LiteHedded> ok brb thanks! hopefully it comes back up
[08:48] <nooby_god> well I primarily use gentoo, I'm only here because I need to know some ubuntu basics
[08:48] <ompaul> nooby_god, it and freebsd since 1994
[08:48] <issy> why can't ubuntu recognize the filesystem type?  it's just a normal floppy
[08:48] <Rambo3> fat
[08:48] <nooby_god> can ubuntu be transparent? Like the user has no idea about config files and the such?
[08:48] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: there is no recovery
[08:48] <Scorpmoon> Is x64 ubuntu generally less supported driver-wise than x86 ??
[08:48] <erich> issy: does it have a valid filesystem on it?
[08:48] <wastrel> Sh4d0:  you installed dapper or breezy?
[08:49] <ajax4> wastrel: If you don't know what you are doing you might be inclined to, yes. But I think this subject is probably off-topic.
[08:49] <Sh4d0> Rambo3, wastrel, hold, sry
[08:49] <Stormx2> ic56: Check your PM. I sent you a url a while back
[08:49] <issy> erich:  how can I tell?
[08:49] <Rambo3> Sh4d0: paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst on paster
[08:49] <zquirM> What's Ubuntu server like?
[08:49] <wastrel> well you didn't have to go disagreeing with me :p
[08:49] <zquirM> Why would I run Ubuntu Server on my servers instead of Gentoo?
[08:49] <erich> issy: if the kernel autodetects it, it has a valid fs on it. ;-)
[08:49] <wastrel> zquirM:  because you like it better?
[08:49] <ompaul> zquirM, a console box with heaps of nice packages
[08:49] <ic56> issy: if the floppy's filesystem type isn't recognized, then it *isn't* a normal floppy.  It's either corrupt, unformatted, or a foreign filesystem.
[08:49] <Mutil8> can somebody point me in the right direction of getting grub to recognize my windows install?
[08:49] <zquirM> like it better why?
[08:49] <gavagai> zquirM, chicks dig it
[08:49] <wastrel> i dunno, don't have to wait for ebuilds to compile
[08:49] <zquirM> the servers have no X windows
[08:49] <boha_> where can i find themes for gnome?
[08:49] <Rambo3> zquirM: apt
[08:49] <issy> erich:  then obviously not; I got these floppies just today from bestbuy, the only ones there
[08:49] <ajax4> ompaul: Next time you shut down, when the Ubuntu logo comes up...check the status lines it prints out and see if it mentions bttrack.bittorrent.
[08:50] <erich> issy: well, most likely the disk is running fat12, so if you can't mount it with fs type "fat" the disk is maybe not formatted, a bootdisk (with no filesystem!) or broken
[08:50] <LiteHedded> NoUse: working great now thanks!
[08:50] <Sh4d0> ok im at bash for recovery
[08:50] <NoUse> LiteHedded no prob
[08:50] <Sh4d0> now what
[08:50] <Stormx2> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l /dev/hda
[08:50] <Stormx2> Cannot open /dev/hda
[08:50] <ompaul> ajax4, I do have a spare box on here beside me :-)
[08:50] <Stormx2> Should I be worried?
[08:50] <wastrel> boha_:  art.gnome.org   www.gnome-look.org
[08:50] <NoUse> Stormx2 sudo
[08:50] <erich> issy: well, does the box say "preformatted"?
[08:50] <issy> erich:  it's Fiji-brand floppy
[08:50] <ompaul> ajax4, shutdown comeing up
[08:50] <boha_> wastrel,  tnx
[08:50] <Rambo3> Sh4d0: type startx
[08:50] <issy> erich:  it says IBM formatted
[08:50] <Sh4d0> Rambo3 command not found
[08:50] <floydwilde> Hey is Zope/Plone okay to install from packages on Dapper?
[08:50] <calamari> on Dapper when I select Shutdown I get logged out instead.  Does this happen to anyone else?  Is there a fix?
[08:50] <ompaul> ajax4, it does say that
[08:51] <ic56> issy: is this supposed to be a blank floppy?  If so, then just format it.
[08:51] <Sh4d0> this is breezy badger, its the one with gnome
[08:51] <ajax4> ompaul: So what's that all about then?
[08:51] <ompaul> ajax4, I'll raise it with someone
[08:51] <concept10> ajax4, I have seen that on shutdown since i upgraded to dapper 4 months ago, what the hell is that
[08:51] <issy> ic56, and how do I acheive this?  it says it's IBM formatted on the box
[08:51] <ajax4> concept10: Yeah, that's what I was asking about...(just upgraded a week ago)
[08:51] <ompaul> ajax4, if I knew I would have said it already ;-) wait up a minute
[08:51] <concept10> bittorrent shouldnt be a part of the default install
[08:51] <ic56> issy: try: fdformat /media/floppy
[08:51] <erich> issy: then they should have a fat filesystem on them, actually. what does happen when you try to mount them?
[08:51] <concept10> at least a tracker shouldnt be
[08:52] <ajax4> concept10: Well, according to synaptic its part of ubuntu-desktop. But yeah, the tracker part surprised me.
[08:52] <calamari> concept10: when you shut down, does it make you log out first then shut down again?
[08:52] <ic56> issy: no, that wont' work.  what size floppy is it?
[08:52] <issy> erich, "mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified"
[08:52] <issy> ic56, standard 1.44MB
[08:52] <ic56> issy: 3.5"?
[08:52] <concept10> I dont want a bittorrent tracker running as a process by default
[08:52] <concept10> calamari, no
[08:52] <issy> ic56, yeah
[08:52] <wastrel> i don't think one is running as a process by default
[08:52] <ajax4> concept10: That's the weird thing, I can't find it listed with the ps command.
[08:52] <ic56> issy: how many floppy drives in your box?
[08:53] <issy> ic56, one, this I just hooked up
[08:53] <calamari> concept10: so you hit shut down from gnome and it shuts down without any more steps?
[08:53] <concept10> wastrel, why does it show during shutdown?
[08:53] <Klowner> hmmph, there appears to be no nvidia-cg-toolkit available in any of the dapper repositories
[08:53] <Rambo3> Sh4d0: then use adduser
[08:53] <concept10> calamari, shutdown is fine
[08:53] <wastrel> concept10:  presumably there's a shutdown script for it
[08:53] <calamari> concept10: okay thanks a lot :)
[08:53] <dwight> can anyone help me with amavis?????
[08:53] <NoUse> concept10 why don't you just stop the tracker from running?
[08:53] <ic56> issy: try: fdformat /dev/fd0
[08:53] <concept10> NoUse, thats not the case
[08:53] <erich> issy: try giving "-t fat"
[08:54] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: adduser: the group 'shadow' already exists.
[08:54] <issy> ic56, well it's formating
[08:54] <NoUse> concept10 ok
[08:54] <ic56> issy: there you go!
[08:54] <ajax4> ompaul: Can you detect that the tracker is even running on your system?
[08:54] <issy> ic56, heh, I take it I bough unformatted floppies then?
[08:54] <ompaul> ajax4, I am looking a little deeper into it
[08:54] <Tonren> Hey, can anyone help me set up a network printer?
[08:54] <issy> bought*
[08:54] <wastrel> there's no tracker running, it's just the shutdown script
[08:55] <ompaul> ajax4, I will be back it will take me a few minutes to dig around
[08:55] <ajax4> wastrel: Where is the shutdown script?
[08:55] <Stormx2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195942 I updated some of the info... I still have no idea what to do though! :P (GRUB isn't loading)
[08:55] <ic56> issy: either unformatted or the format became corrupted when you passed through the theft-prevention magnetic scanner at the store's door.
[08:55] <wastrel> locate bittorrent| grep rc
[08:55] <Tonren> Come on, ANYONE?  Doesn't ANYONE know ANYTHING about setting up a freaki'n printer?!
[08:55] <palomer> hello
[08:56] <wastrel> /etc/rc0.d/K20bittorrent  &  /etc/rc6.d/K20bittorrent
[08:56] <palomer> is there a free alternative to 3D studio max?
[08:56] <Stormx2> Tonren: Whats the problem?
[08:56] <Rambo3> Sh4d0: then just change it with passwd
[08:56] <issy> ic56, *raises fist to the heavens*  damn you best buuuuyyy!!
[08:56] <ajax4> palomer: try Blender
[08:56] <nostalg1c> Stormx2, his freaki'n printer?!
[08:56] <Stormx2> XD
[08:56] <ic56> issy: :-)
[08:56] <Stormx2> He seems to have gone anyway
[08:56] <Tonren> nostalg1c: you shut u!p XD
[08:56] <Stormx2> Plus
[08:56] <erich> wastrel: thats stop scripts.
[08:56] <mngrif> is ubuntu usable on a 586? as in, is it not compiled for 686?
[08:56] <Stormx2> I have like a million problems with this machine at the moment
[08:56] <gavagai> mngrif, right
[08:56] <palomer> is blender as powerful as 3D studio max?
[08:56] <issy> ic56, uh-oh, it still can't mount it
[08:56] <Stormx2> my printer is the least of my problems ;)
[08:57] <samuli> anyone compiled gimpshop?
[08:57] <chapium> mngrif: it shouldnt matter
[08:57] <wastrel> erich:  i'm afraid i don't know the difference between a stop script & a shutdown script.
[08:57] <ic56> issy: what command are you using to mount?
[08:57] <Stormx2> samuli: Tried is breezy, and failed.
[08:57] <Tonren> Stormx2: My printer is set up on a wireless print server.  Windows XP accesses it as a "local printer", port name IP_192.168.2.1, printer name/IP address 192.168.2.1, LPR protocol, port 515, Queue LPT1.
[08:57] <ompaul> ajax4, that is there in case your running one it is in 0 and 6 runlevels so it does not matter, in case it gets started in /etc/init.d so its not a problem
[08:57] <ic56> Stormx2: I'm looking at your updated URL
[08:57] <ajax4> palomer: I don't know much about it but its free to try out and see :)
[08:57] <issy> ic56, mount /dev/fd0, giving me the same error about the filesystem type
[08:57] <mngrif> chapium, oh, it does. if a program/kernel is compiled for a 686-class machine, it will NOT work at all on anything less
[08:57] <Stormx2> ic56: Thanks :D
[08:57] <Tonren> Stormx2: In Ubuntu, I've enabled "Detect LAN Printers" in my Printer administration, but it isn't detecting it, and it won't let me manually specify the port, either.
[08:57] <ajax4> ompaul: You'd think it would print no message if it wasn't running.
[08:58] <ic56> issy: try mount /media/floppy
[08:58] <erich> wastrel: the same... I didn't read your t-3 post.
[08:58] <ompaul> ajax4, its there to stop the torrent sweetly as far as I can see
[08:58] <mutil8> i have 2 drives, one with ubuntu, one with windows 2003, and i can't seem to get grub to boot windows
[08:58] <Jowi> mngrif: 686 kernel is usable for PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV
[08:58] <mutil8> is there an issue with grub and sata drives?
[08:58] <mngrif> Jowi, AMD K6-2
[08:58] <Stormx2> Tonren: Seriously I can't help man. I'm on a live CD
[08:58] <ic56> issy: try: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[08:58] <issy> ic56, same, should I try a different fdformat?  like -t fat?
[08:58] <Stormx2> Tonren: Ask at ubuntuforums.org
[08:58] <ompaul> ajax4, better than just stopping it mid flight actually shut it off
[08:58] <Tonren> Stormx2: Nuts...
[08:58] <mngrif> it's 586-class :)
[08:59] <ic56> issy: fdformat doesn't do filesystems other than FAT.
[08:59] <ajax4> ompaul: Okay, well thanks for looking into that for me :)
[08:59] <ompaul> ajax4, it is there for the day you use /etc/init.d/bittorrent
[08:59] <Stormx2> righty-hoo
[08:59] <Jowi> mngrif: k7 kernel for AMD Duron/Athlon at least. is K6-2 one of those?
[08:59] <issy> ic56, "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0"
[08:59] <Stormx2> I'm gonna go inspect my BIOS setup.
[08:59] <reduz> ah, k6 was a very nice cpu, too bad most mainboards manufactured during its time contained faulty caps and are dead by now
[09:00] <ic56> issy: are you running Ubuntu?
[09:00] <issy> ic56, sure am
[09:00] <Jowi> mngrif: the other options is either 1. use the 386 kernel or 2. compile your own.
[09:00] <mngrif> Jowi, no, a K6-2 is a K6-2, it has 3dnow, but that's it.
[09:00] <Stormx2> Bye folks
[09:00] <mngrif> Jowi, but the packages are compiled for what arch?
[09:00] <Roconda> My sound isnt working, I can see in phpmyadmin Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq: Unknown device 1361 anyone ?
[09:00] <ic56> issy: how many tab holes on that floppy? 1 or 2?
[09:00] <homerh-linux> hiya have a little problem cant seen to install nvidia drives ,achive type not supported on file nvidia
[09:00] <mngrif> reduz, K6-2's are great! serious workhorses.
[09:00] <Roconda> My sound isnt working, I can see in phpsysinfo Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq: Unknown device 1361 anyone ?*
[09:01] <Jowi> mngrif: probably generic 386 (covers basicly all cpus)
[09:01] <issy> ic56, one hole with a tab, one hole with no tab
[09:01] <Jowi> mngrif: not 100% sure though
[09:01] <mngrif> Jowi, any way to find out?
[09:01] <seanieb64> ...
[09:01] <Jowi> mngrif: i don't know :-/
[09:01] <tybalt> how do I set up a radius server on my Ubuntu server that I can set my wireles router to use?
[09:01] <seanieb64> Hi guys
[09:01] <eugman> If I installed something to wine, is there a way to tell where the files are based on the uninstall files?
[09:01] <tortho> what is dapper using instead of hotplug?
[09:02] <eugman> udev?
[09:02] <ic56> issy: extra hole = high-density (1.44MB).  No extra hole = low density (720kB)
[09:02] <mngrif> i'll ask the debian people... should be listed in the .deb somewhere
[09:02] <eugman> I think it's udev, tortho
[09:02] <issy> ic56, oh it's high density alright, double-sided
[09:02] <NoUse> eugman wine installs everything to ~/.wine/drive_c/
[09:02] <ic56> issy: try a different floppy.
[09:02] <seanieb64> are there any Linux alternatives to iTunes or WMP, that can play MP3's and WMA?
[09:02] <bobbyd> hi
[09:02] <MM> why my gdm starts in 640x480 mode and after /etc/init/gdm restart it starts in 1280x800? I would it to start right away in 1280 mode.
[09:02] <Roconda> My sound isnt working, I can see in phpsysinfo Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq: Unknown device 1361
[09:03] <issy> ic56, ha, it worked, no formatting
[09:03] <ic56> issy: if the problem persists, try a native format (I'll tell you how).  If still no good, you have a hardware problem -- try cleaning your floppy drive.
[09:03] <tortho> eugman: thannks
[09:03] <ajax4> seanieb64: Try amaroK
[09:03] <issy> ic56, I wonder what Best Buy's policy is on single floppy-disk returns
[09:03] <eugman> NoUse, I know this. I installed a driver for a camera and I want to know how to run it. Normally there wold be a program in programs if there were windows but I haven't found any trace of what was installed except the uninstall files.
[09:03] <bobbyd> when I turn off anti-aliasing on my fonts, they looks pretty weird, is that to do with the patented hinting being turned off when freetype is compiled? And if so do i just need to compile it myself?
[09:03] <concept10> mngrif, the k6 is a 586 so use 386 kernel
[09:04] <wastrel> seanieb64:  rhythmbox seems to be the default music player for gnome.  dunno about wma
[09:04] <ic56> issy: ok, it was a bad floppy.  Linux can still use it -- you just need to mark the bad sectors.  read the badblocks manpage
[09:04] <mngrif> concept10, what about the packages? what are they compiled for?
[09:04] <wastrel> seanieb64:  you'll need restrictedformats stuff to be able to play mp3 at least
[09:04] <Jowi> Roconda: does "speaker-test" work? or "playsound /usr/share/sounds/login.wav" ?
[09:04] <NoUse> eugman I'm not sure if you can run drivers via wine
[09:04] <Jowi> brb
[09:05] <tybalt> how do I set up a radius server on my Ubuntu server that I can set my wireles router to use?
[09:05] <Roconda> Jowi: ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1305:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
[09:05] <Roconda> Playback open error: -19,No such device
[09:05] <eugman> NoUse, it's a very likely possibility but that won't stop me from trying.
[09:05] <concept10> mngrif, i suppose 386, I dont know what ubuntu compiles packages for, I think they compile all packages 386 for x86
[09:05] <issy> ic56, with it space being limited as it is, the floppy'll pro'lly be worthless to me with sectors skipped out
[09:05] <NoUse> eugman doesn't the camera just show up on your desktop when you plug it in?
[09:05] <kdean06> I've got a question, if someone is willing to assist... What would cause "basename: extra operand `/etc/init.d/mysql-ndb-mgm' Try `basename --help' for more information." during an install of Ravencore Web Hosting COntrol Panel.? And is there anything I can do about this?
[09:05] <tortho> a memory stick is not recognices in konqueror... what else that udev is needed...?
[09:05] <NoUse> eugman thats what mine does
[09:05] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: it's locked up at "Installing packages | Preparing for installation... | 0%" now
[09:05] <mngrif> concept10, awesome
[09:05] <eugman> NoUse this is a very cheap one. It barely qualifies as a camera.
[09:06] <sambrista> Hi! I've installed beagle and gnome doesn't find some files (although it finds the folder where they are). Can anyone tell me a way to force beagle to index everything now? (a command or so)
[09:06] <ic56> issy: hardly.  1440kB - as many as 10 sectors is still 1435kB.
[09:06] <Rambo3> Sh4d0: didnt you have problem with uaser passwird what are you talking about now
[09:06] <ic56> issy: hardly.  1440kB minus as many as 10 bad sectors still amounts to 1435kB.
[09:06] <mngrif> god there's a good reason i left the debian crowd... useless, all of 'em...
[09:06] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: yea, i passwded and even addusered a new user, and rebooted, and now it's locked up there
[09:06] <NoUse> eugman I see
[09:07] <NoUse> eugman you coudl go into the .wine dictory and list by most recently changed, and then you might be able to tell what was installed
[09:07] <mngrif> btw, fdformat does a low-level format. you can use it to turn a 1.4M floppy into a 720K single-density floppy
[09:07] <afonit> anyway to reduce the size of the icons on the desktop, ie folders and desktop grid?
[09:07] <Jowi> Roconda: did you have a look at the wiki?
[09:07] <Roconda> Jowi: no :p
[09:07] <Rambo3> Sh4d0: ctrl+c will get you out of there or ctrl+z keys , anyway what are you trying to do , isntall a server?
[09:07] <mngrif> or you can use it to turn a 1.4M into a 1.7M if you don't break your drive in the process
[09:07] <Jowi> ubotu: tell Roconda about sound
[09:08] <Jowi> Roconda: look at the message from ubotu
[09:08] <zipper_> I've had my MBR wiped... how can i reinstall grub, if i have the 6.06 install cd?
[09:08] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: it's not responding to those, this is a normal install
[09:08] <concept10> mngrif, you can see that by looking at one of the packages at packages.ubuntu.com, they compile for x86, amd64, and ppc
[09:08] <ic56> Stormx2: have you installed the grub bootloader on your Master Boot Record?  Your page doesn't say how you did that.
[09:08] <Roconda> k
[09:08] <gnuaha7> freinds i have a little problem with the *.srt subtitle for the movie... somebody has have this problem???
[09:08] <NoUse> !tell zipper_ about grub
[09:08] <mngrif> zippah, grub-install grub-device-name
[09:08] <erich> argh. whenever I boot this one PC, its volume is all turned up, resulting in an horrible login sound...
[09:08] <eyequeue> zipper_, install-grub
[09:08] <mngrif> concept10, it's the "x" in "x86" that i'd like to know.
[09:09] <Krhis> XD
[09:09] <Krhis> Love that quote.
[09:09] <concept10> mngrif, I mean i386
[09:09] <Rambo3> Sh4d0: go to the recovery and trye apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:09] <mngrif> concept10, awesome
[09:09] <Sh4d0> k
[09:09] <concept10> mngrif, what processor do you have, or use?
[09:09] <mngrif> concept10, in this case, an AMD K6-2
[09:10] <Bobezus> Hi all! Got a question :) I burning a DVD (using external USB burner) with K3B. and it's really slow....is DMA applicable on USB drives?
[09:10] <jone> i want to download latest version of kopete in ubuntu?
[09:10] <amortvigil> hey, i got this question is GKrellM in the packet list?
[09:11] <zipper_> eyequeue, mngrif, NoUse, thanks
[09:11] <ajax4> jone: sudo apt-get install kopete
[09:11] <eyequeue> amortvigil, packet list?
[09:11] <jone> but i get msg pkg in already install
[09:11] <concept10> mngrif, just use 386 for k6-2, the k6=2 is not a k7 (athlon) or 686, its a 586 (pentium class)
[09:11] <amortvigil> eyequeue: yeah like apt-get install GKrellM
[09:11] <jone> but it is old version
[09:12] <eyequeue> amortvigil, no caps
[09:12] <mngrif> concept10, i know what class my CPU is, i'm just curious about ubuntu's support for <686 class machines
[09:12] <kandinski> what is the ubuntu equivalent of packages.debian.org?
[09:12] <amortvigil> eyequeue: nope i think its in an other way
[09:12] <mdupont> hi all
[09:12] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: it's doing its thing, i'll let you know if it derails
[09:12] <eyequeue> amortvigil, there are many packages, apt-cache seaech gkrellm
[09:12] <kbrooks> kandinski: packages.ubuntu.com ? :)
[09:12] <eyequeue> amortvigil, there are many packages, apt-cache search gkrellm
[09:12] <B1zz> when i try to run prefrence setting on firefox i get the following windows that pops up and gives me the following message:  http://pastebin.com/705977
[09:13] <Sayz> Hey, could someone help me with getting a Dapper-Drake boot cd to work?
[09:13] <eyequeue> amortvigil, gkrellm is running on this box here
[09:13] <B1zz> when i try to run prefrence setting on firefox i get the following windows that pops up and gives me the following message:  http://pastebin.com/705977
[09:13] <mdupont> please help me setup the usb mouse for x windows
[09:13] <B1zz> opps
[09:13] <B1zz> sorry
[09:13] <Sayz> I burned the ISO fine, but something weird happened, and now it says it can't read boot cd
[09:13] <kandinski> kbrooks: I had typed "packages.ubutu.org" (oops): thanks
[09:13] <tortho> why isn't memory sticks working after an upgrade to dapper? nothing happends when it's inserted..
[09:13] <gnuaha7> zipper_: find on google some like "super grub"... this is a image of a floppy disk and a cd-rom iso wich boot and allow you install grub with your own patition table
[09:13] <sbalneav> Sayz: what "weird" happened?
[09:14] <wastrel> yay
[09:14] <amortvigil> eyequeue: how did you find it?
[09:14] <Katan1> hey, can you guide me on how to map a .iso as a drive? i heard it's possible...
[09:14] <amortvigil> it isnt in mine
[09:14] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: it finished and put be back at bash, should i reboot?
[09:14] <eyequeue> amortvigil, apt-cache search gkrellm
[09:14] <kdean06> What package provides BASENAME?
[09:14] <eyequeue> !tell amortvigil about repos
[09:14] <amortvigil> eyequeue: root@Amortvigil:~# apt-cache search gkrellm
[09:14] <amortvigil> root@Amortvigil:~#
[09:14] <zipper_> gnuaha7, nah, using the install cd i'll be fine
[09:14] <Rambo3> Sh4d0: no need try : /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:14] <eugman> Does anyone know how I can open up a setup.exe file like a tar?
[09:14] <roostishaw> when using skype, why do i sometimes get an error that says "problem with sound device"? this happens at random times...
[09:14] <zipper_> but thanks
[09:15] <eyequeue> kdean06, coreutils: /usr/bin/basename
[09:15] <ajax4> Katan1:  I think its mount -t iso9660 isofile mountpoint
[09:15] <kdean06> eyequeue, THanks you.
[09:15] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: i don't have this GDM thing, i'm in init.d and don't see it
[09:15] <Melissa|X> I've got a sound problem. Epiphany won't play sound unless everything else playing sound is quit, and gaim has no sound at all while epiphany is playing sound
[09:15] <wastrel> what's epiphany
[09:16] <Melissa|X> epiphany-browser
[09:16] <Rambo3> Sh4d0: what does apt-get install ubuntu-desktop say
[09:16] <wastrel> it's that new gnome web browser?
[09:16] <eyequeue> amortvigil, apt-cache search gkrellm | wc -l shows 31 lines here, emable your repos
[09:16] <wastrel> right, i always forget that
[09:16] <sbalneav> Kaja: mount -t iso9660 -o loop something.iso /foo
[09:16] <wastrel> well it seems epiphany isn't using the sound server
[09:16] <Melissa|X> that's what I'm assuming
[09:17] <ajax4> Katan1:  I think its mount -t iso9660 -o loop isofile mountpoint (I forgot the -o loop part)
[09:17] <amortvigil> eyequeue: :D
[09:17] <Melissa|X> is there any possible way to get it to use esd perhaps?
[09:17] <Sayz> sbalneav: Nero said "Block does not match ISO Length. Repair?"
[09:17] <Stormx2> Back.
[09:17] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: lots of stuff, i'll let you know when it's done
[09:17] <Stormx2> Turns out I can't access my BIOS
[09:17] <gnuaha7> zipper_: i remember that i do what you are saying with the install cd of Debian Sarge and grub never fix at all...
[09:18] <sbalneav> Sayz: Sounds like the iso you downloaded was corrupted.  Maybe you got a burp in the download?
[09:18] <GoDawgs> I'm having problems playing an internet radio station with XMMS.  Do you know if it supports WMA files?
[09:18] <Sayz> sbalneav: I said "Ignore", and it burned, but when booting, I reached the menu, but it kept saying "Boot disk cannot be read
[09:18] <seanieb64> about rhythmbox, wen I ttry to play an MP3, it says the file isn't an audio stream
[09:18] <Sayz> sbalneav: I think maybe
[09:18] <Bassetts> anyone know how to make a custom usplash in gimp?
[09:18] <eyequeue> Sayz, did you check the md5sum before burning?
[09:19] <Sayz> sbalneav: Somehow, I managed to get what should have taken an extra half-hour in a few minutes
[09:19] <roostishaw> when using skype, why do i sometimes get an error that says "problem with sound device"? this happens at random times...
[09:19] <Sayz> sbalneav: No, I didn't. How can I do that?
[09:19] <sladen> Bassetts: New image 640x400,
[09:19] <Sayz> sbalneav: Sorry, that wasn't you
[09:19] <sladen> Bassetts: Colours->Mode->Indexed 15 colours
[09:19] <sladen> Bassetts: Dialogues -> Palette
[09:20] <Sayz> eyequeue: No, I didn't. How can I do that?
[09:20] <Bassetts> sladen: the colour indexes are not working as expected
[09:20] <Bassetts> do the colours for the progress bar etc. have to actually be used in the image?
[09:20] <eyequeue> Sayz, md5sum *.iso, and compare to what is listed on the web site
[09:20] <roostishaw> when using skype, why do i sometimes get an error that says "problem with sound device"? this happens at random times...
[09:21] <sbalneav> sladen: Paul, that you?  How you keeping?  Going to be in Paris?
[09:21] <sladen> sbalneav: mostly good.  I've no idea if I'm going to Paris
[09:22] <tybalt> how do I configure FreeRADIUS?
[09:22] <Sayz> eyequeue: Two things. First, I'm still on Windows and have no idea how to do that, and also, I don't think I got a checksum when I downloaded
[09:22] <tortho> what does KDE has that is similar to gnome-volume-manager for automounting usb memory stick's?
[09:22] <Sayz> eyequeue: Never mind, I found it
[09:22] <tr1gg3r> tortho: try ivman
[09:22] <GoDawgs> Please tell me how i can have xmms play a WMA file....
[09:23] <Melissa|X> help with epiphany sound issues please anybody?
[09:23] <Stormx2> OK, I think I'm gonna have to reinstall ubuntu. How do I make it so that it has a /boot partition?
[09:23] <Stormx2> And I'll make a seperate /home parition too so I can be with the cool crew.
[09:23] <tortho> tr1gg3r: thanks!
[09:23] <tr1gg3r> np
[09:23] <ompaul> Stormx2, you know to install windows first makes sense?
[09:23] <Sayz> eyequeue: There are tons of checksums in here. Which one do I need to find?
[09:24] <eyequeue> Sayz, the md5sum
[09:24] <ajax4> Stormx2: On mine I only have a root partition and home partition. The boot folder is in the root partition. And yes, install windows first on the first partition.
[09:24] <eyequeue> Sayz, for the iso in question, if that's what you meant
[09:24] <Stormx2> ompaul. it is installed. I'm hoping it still works :)
[09:25] <seanieb64> Grr
[09:25] <seanieb64> it says none of my MP3's are audio streams when  try to import them
[09:25] <Sayz> eyequeue, What I mean is that I opened up md5sum.txt and it has tons of numbers for things like ./dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Releases, ./pics stuff, etc.
[09:26] <Sayz> eyequeue, is ./dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Releases the one that I need to find?
[09:26] <Melissa|X> sound in epiphany-browser does not work when other sound-using apps are running or using sound. I don't think this is normal...
[09:26] <Stormx2> Its just that I think the wiki says I have a boot partition... maybe thats why I'm not recovering GRUB...
[09:26] <seanieb64> is there another compatible audio application out there?
[09:27] <eyequeue> Sayz, on the web site where you found the iso, there should be a file that just contains the md5sums of the isos on that page
[09:27] <Melissa|X> audio application?
[09:27] <metaj> Hi there is there any one that has problem with aMSN webcam
[09:27] <skonks> I am trying to mount my extern ntfs partition with this line: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/MaXtor/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222. But I only get read permissions?
[09:27] <skonks> any ideas?
[09:27] <metaj> it says that i'm behinde a firevall NAT
[09:27] <Sayz> eyequeue, That's right, and I found it. I'm trying to compare them with the file md5sum.txt in the iso
[09:27] <eyequeue> Sayz, it is there specifically to check if the transfer went right
[09:27] <nostalg1c> there's no write access to ntfs with the standard drivers i think
[09:28] <HarrisonF> ah doh, i'm getting errors from teh lvm2 pkg while trying to upgrade from breezy (upgraded from hoary) to dapper
[09:28] <skonks> nostalg1c: I had it working in breezy.. in dapper it doesent
[09:28] <mdupont> l
[09:28] <Sayz> eyequeue, Ok, I know that, but what am I supposed to do with those numbers on the Internet? How can I compare them with my download?
[09:29] <mdupont> ok, so how can i get the fbdev device activated in ubuntu
[09:29] <Melissa|X> apps using esd don't work when epiphany is playing sound, apps using alsa don't work, and apps using oss don't work while epiphany is playing sound. it's very frustrating to have to kill epiphany, kill rhythmbox and totem and mplayer and gaim and whatever else is playing sound at the time just so I can watch a video on google video's
[09:29] <eyequeue> Sayz, noooooo, you run md5sum against the iso itself, then compare the output to what is on the website.  anything IN the iso would be put there in advance and wouldn't indicate if the transfer was corrupt or not
[09:29] <mdupont> where do i get the /dev/fb0?
[09:29] <Sayz> eyequeue. Ah, I see
[09:30] <mindspit> can i "see" my "qcam 330 usb pc camera" from linux ?
[09:30] <Sayz> eyequeue, So how do I run md5sum in Windows?
[09:30] <mdupont> currently i am getting a system hang with the new version of ubuntu on a athelon 64 with nvidia
[09:30] <eyequeue> Sayz, you would need to find some ms-based md5 util and i know nothing of ms things, never touched it
[09:30] <mdupont> Sayz: use cygwin
[09:30] <Sayz> Ok, thanks guys
[09:30] <paniq> hey everyone
[09:30] <GoDawgs> hey guys, how do I get a WMA file play??
[09:30] <paniq> can anyone confirm this bug please? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/49281
[09:30] <mdupont> where do i get the /dev/fb0?
[09:30] <mdupont> ok, so how can i get the fbdev device activated in ubuntu
[09:30] <Rambo3> Melissa|X: true that
[09:31] <ajax4> mdupont: There are a few issues with the nvidia binary driver. I've had mine crash too, so I used a workaround.
[09:31] <mdupont> ajax4: yes?
[09:31] <mdupont> please tell me
[09:31] <Melissa|X> hi Rambo3 <3 any idea how to fix please?
[09:31] <ajax4> mdupont: Hang on, let me find it.
[09:31] <gnuaha7> skonks: but... what do you do for make it work???
[09:31] <mdupont> fbdev driver?
[09:31] <mdupont> thanks in advance ajax4
[09:31] <assasukasse> hi all can i install kwifimanager in ubuntu gnome?
[09:31] <MarcN> mindspit: try firing up gqcam to see if your webcam is recognized
[09:32] <Rambo3> Melissa|X: no i have same problem with flash. only that i have to run in terminal sudo firefox to get sound working in flash
[09:32] <ajax4> !nvidia
[09:32] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:32] <Yango> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[09:32] <neutrinomass> GoDawgs: /msg ubotu restricted
[09:32] <Melissa|X> firefox works for me, but I don't like firefox :( I wish epiphany would work
[09:32] <Yango> what should I install for cdrecord-clone to work?
[09:32] <eyequeue> Rambo3, as root?  is your user in group audio?
[09:32] <skonks> gnuaha7: If I mount intern ntfs partitions from fstab it works fine, I get read/write access. Using mount from console setting write access it doesent.. this is an extern harddrive..
[09:33] <mdupont> thanks
[09:33] <Yango> (error message is above)
[09:33] <skonks> usb
[09:33] <Rambo3> Melissa|X: try sudo epiphany
[09:33] <mdupont> how can i copy that link in text mode?
[09:33] <eyequeue> Rambo3, sudo adduser <youruser> audio
[09:33] <GoDawgs> hmmm...
[09:33] <Melissa|X> I think if it works as root, then it's only a problem with the current users' configuration
[09:33] <GoDawgs> what player plays WMA files folks?
[09:33] <Rambo3> eyequeue: i have tryed everyting
[09:33] <mindspit> i dont have gqcam ... how can i install it ? i use agian apt-get ?
[09:33] <Rambo3> so no need to try there
[09:33] <Melissa|X> ** (epiphany:22737): WARNING **: Unable to connect to session bus: No reply within specified time
[09:33] <mdupont> ?
[09:34] <skonks> GoDawgs: Mplayer with wma plugin
[09:34] <eyequeue> Rambo3, once you said it works as root, it caused me to think of that
[09:34] <ajax4> mdupont: I don't think thats the page. Still looking.
[09:34] <mdupont> ! nvidia
[09:34] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:35] <Yango> ! cdrecord
[09:35] <ubotu> Yango: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:35] <yvette_> I need help on iwconfig. Anybody please ?
[09:35] <skonks> yvette_: shoot
[09:35] <Spec> yvette_: what help is it you need?
[09:35] <amortvigil> okay i just downloaded gkrellm but how can i start it?
[09:36] <yvette_> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"mopjg"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[09:36] <yvette_>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:07:CB:53:3A:05
[09:36] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: holycrap this is a lot of stuff (apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[09:36] <eyequeue> amortvigil, alt-f2, then "killall gnome-panel"
[09:36] <yvette_> but when I do dhclient eth0 I can not get network working...
[09:36] <eyequeue> amortvigil, then look under the applications > system tools menu
[09:37] <skonks> yvette_: is it right ESSID? using encryption?
[09:37] <yvette_> essid is ok. No encryption, only WEP key
[09:37] <skonks> btw you have to use eth1..
[09:37] <erich> wep key is encryption. ;-)
[09:37] <skonks> WEP-key is enc
[09:37] <skonks> ;)
[09:37] <yvette_> ah ok
[09:37] <Rambo3> yvette_: what is your card is it eth0 ?
[09:37] <erich> yvette_: what key type? ascii?
[09:37] <erich> or hex?
[09:38] <skonks> yvette_: sudo iwconfig eth1 enc "code"
[09:38] <dad> could anyone hlep me?  im a complete noob to linux, and i have dapper drake and want to install a new font
[09:38] <mdupont> ajax4 please just give me a tip
[09:38] <dad> i looked online, but only found how to install international character fonts or something
[09:38] <mdupont> wht do i nee dto do
[09:38] <yvette_> I have a wire on eth0 (this is why I can go on xchat :-) and wifi on eth1
[09:38] <fadeh> hi guys, i've got a problem using xgl + fglrx (x1900xt) + compiz + amd64. After a night of fighting all run fine but i cannot get window border. I've tried some solution but no luck. Any suggestion?
[09:38] <Rambo3> !font
[09:38] <ubotu> from memory, font is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[09:38] <mdupont> fadeh: me too!
[09:38] <ajax4> mdupont: Having a hard time finding the website where I found the info. It involved modifying your xorg.conf file.
[09:38] <erich> hex is much more portable... I think some wireless cards allow you to use some arbitrary length text as passphrase, and calculate the key from that. but sometimes they don't use the same algorithm...
[09:38] <Spec> dad: do you want microsoft truetype fonts?
[09:38] <dad> yea
[09:38] <skonks> yvette_: do the enc on eth1 then
[09:38] <fadeh> mdupont: same situation?
[09:38] <dad> a .ttf
[09:38] <mdupont> fadeh: please tell me zour lspci for the thing
[09:39] <Spec> !!msttfcore
[09:39] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Spec
[09:39] <mdupont> i have a 0392
[09:39] <Spec> hmm
[09:39] <Rambo3> portable ? i thought they translate all keys to hex m whats portable ?
[09:39] <LiteHedded> how do I mount an iso?
[09:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell dad about fonts
[09:39] <MoxJe1> how do I mount an mdf?
[09:39] <Spec> !msttcorefonts
[09:39] <ubotu> hmm... msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[09:39] <Spec> dad: ^^
[09:39] <Sh4d0> Rambo3: thanks for the help, i'll be back if it doesn't start cooperating
[09:39] <gnomefreak> Spec: you spelled it wrong and its on the !font page
[09:39] <sstc> Hi everyone... anyone ran into a "FATAL -> Failed to fork" error when the 6.06 LTS update manager update thing is cleaning the system? happned right after it was suposed to reload gdm. I am using an xserver on another computer to connect to the comptuer with ubuntu
[09:39] <yvette_> thanks a lot for your help :-) you are great guys
[09:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> LiteHedded: first make sure whereever you want it to appear exists
[09:39] <Luke> i'm trying to apt-get install lilo but it says its unavailable... anyone know why this would be?
[09:39] <Flannel> !tell LiteHedded about mountiso
[09:40] <Kyral_FreeBSD> aw man I was gonna tell him
[09:40] <fadeh> mdupont: what do u want to know? all output?
[09:40] <Kyral_FreeBSD> way to steal my thunder!
[09:40] <Spec> gnomefreak: oh, i didn't know font page included msttcorefonts :p
[09:40] <Flannel> sorry Kyral_FreeBSD, I'll ask you before I link someone next time ;)
[09:40] <eyequeue> Luke, grub?
[09:40] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Flannel: joking :P
[09:40] <Luke> eyequeue: grub doesnt have efi support
[09:41] <fadeh> mdupont: ?
[09:41] <eyequeue> Luke, Filename: pool/main/l/lilo/lilo_22.6.1-7ubuntu2_i386.deb
[09:41] <eyequeue>  .... it's in main
[09:41] <fadeh> mdupont: all output?
[09:41] <myrddin> what application do you guys like for editing .mp3/.ogg tags?
[09:41] <Luke> eyequeue: where is pool?
[09:41] <IIIEars> eyeque - Can't find it. - one more time where is it? do ya need to add it to somefile in HOME,  innitab, or somewhere scarier like rc.local?    start  "gkrellem"
[09:41] <eyequeue> Luke, every ubuntu mirror
[09:42] <Rambo3> 3 miles after liver
[09:42] <mdupont> what card number do you have_
[09:42] <ajax4> mdupont: Read this page    http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183543
[09:42] <mdupont> ok
[09:42] <ajax4> mdupont: It fixed my problem, hopefully it will fix yours.
[09:42] <DevZer0> My Ubuntu 6.06 instalation get stuck at 64% all the time, i checked out the known instalation issues on the website but i dont belive neither of thsoe apply to me. I am using the live-cd, would it help to get the alternative-cd ?
[09:42] <LiteHedded> ok how do I unmout it? :)
[09:42] <Luke> eyequeue: it cant resolve the mirrors for some reason
[09:42] <eyequeue> IIIEars, restart gdm, then look under applications menu
[09:42] <nnz> will it be ok to delete /etc/rc.0/K25mdadm? i dont have raid
[09:42] <neutrinomass> DevZer0: Very likely to work. I suppose  you checked for a corrupt CD, right ?
[09:43] <Luke> eyequeue: us.archive.ubuntu.com cant be resolved
[09:43] <eyequeue> Luke, do you think your sources.list might be incorrect?  let me get youi a link to good ones
[09:43] <Luke> its the livecd
[09:43] <Luke> it should be correct
[09:43] <MoxJe1> what is FreeBSD?
[09:43] <DevZer0> neutrinomass, i did the cd check, i found 1 file that was /casper/something.fs was currupted could that also be the issue, if thats the case then should i re-download the image ?
[09:44] <fadeh> mdupont: http://rafb.net/paste/results/pTK58U93.html
[09:44] <erUSUL> MoxJe1: an unix like OS
[09:44] <Stormx2> Whats the best way to back up my home dir?
[09:44] <MoxJe1> is it linux based?
[09:44] <eyequeue> Luke, 85.133.25.7 and 85.133.25.8
[09:44] <Stormx2> Preserving file permissions and stuff...
[09:44] <erUSUL> Stormx2: tar cvzf home.tgz $HOME ;)
[09:44] <someothernick> simple backup suite
[09:45] <eyequeue> Luke, but can other things be resolved?
[09:45] <MarcN> Stormx2: I like to use an external USB storage device with rsnapshort
[09:45] <mdupont> i cannot copy thos links they are too long to retype
[09:45] <MarcN> Stormx2: rsnapshot
[09:45] <DevZer0> neutrinomass, i will do a md5 check off the checksum file on the image and see.
[09:45] <erUSUL> MoxJe1: no, is FreeBSD based... www.freebsd.org
[09:45] <DevZer0> thanks for your help
[09:45] <mdupont> how can i caputre this irc chat or something
[09:45] <Stormx2> Would this work: sudo tar cvzf /mnt/media/home.tgz /mnt/linux/home/barney
[09:45] <Stormx2> ?
[09:45] <www> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1133779#post1133779 - Anyone got any ideas?
[09:45] <Luke> eyequeue: doesnt look like it
[09:45] <MoxJe1> erUSUL: ok i'll check it up
[09:45] <mdupont> ?
[09:45] <Luke> eyequeue: where is the sources.list?
[09:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> BSD what :P
[09:46] <IcemanV9> MoxJe1: http://www.freebsd.org/about.html > what is freebsd
[09:46] <eyequeue> Luke, see if /etc/resolv.conf points to your isps dns hosts
[09:46] <stevekl> I wonder if yakuake works in gnome
[09:46] <MoxJe1> i'm checking it up =P
[09:46] <eyequeue> Luke, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> BSD is basically what Gentoo wanted to be and didn't quite make it :P
[09:46] <fadeh> mdupont: http://tinyurl.com/ef6l9
[09:46] <Stormx2> What, full of people with superiority disorders? I think gentoo hit that mark just fine ^_^
[09:47] <eyequeue> please, no os or distro wars here
[09:47] <megaman123> hi all...just updated to 6.06 and now GDM has a problem... i had the ATI drivers installed on 5.10...now im in console with no GDM
[09:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> eyequeue: I wans't trying to
[09:47] <Stormx2> WINDOWS R BETR THAN UBUNTU
[09:47] <MoxJe1> Hmm... What's wrong with Gentoo? (um besides that I never got the live cd to work)
[09:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> just making an obsversation
[09:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> jeez...people are touchy
[09:47] <Melissa|X> epiphany sound help anybody? I'm desperate :'(
[09:47] <B1zz> heheh
[09:47] <Flannel> Kyral_FreeBSD: nah, this is a support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place for *-wars
[09:48] <nooby_god> I am going to destroy my Gentoo installation and install ubuntu in a few moments, some last minute questions
[09:48] <B1zz> he is back
[09:48] <samuli> megaman123: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:48] <Stormx2> Aww gnomefreak I was joking!
[09:48] <nostalg1c> haha
[09:48] <nooby_god> how do i get NTFS up?
[09:48] <nostalg1c> requested /part
[09:48] <erUSUL> !tell Melissa|X about sound
[09:48] <IIIEars> eyeque - Hm, What was  the program start up manager called? Can something like gkrellem be edited to start from a CLI conf. file?
[09:48] <Stormx2> Actually taking the piss out of os war people :P
[09:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> It has nothing to do with Gentoo really, its more like BSD (for whatever reason, maybe its just my mind) seems to handle multitasking better than Linux in general
[09:48] <IcemanV9> nooby_god: save some important data :)
[09:48] <Stormx2> Nevermind.
[09:48] <gnomefreak> Stormx2: please send all jokes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <MUFFASO> Argentina?
[09:48] <megaman123> samuli: trying it now ...thanks
[09:48] <Flannel> !tell nooby_god about ntfs
[09:48] <nooby_god> is there a tool to help me mount NTFS partitions?
[09:48] <Stormx2> I'll be gone as soon as this backup finishes
[09:48] <eyequeue> IIIEars, "gkrellm"  and you may be thinking of synaptic
[09:49] <Klowner> why the heck isn't sshfs showing up, I have universe added to my repos
[09:49] <Melissa|X> thnx erusel <3 I'll take a look at this
[09:49] <NoUse> !tell nooby_god about ntfs
[09:49] <Melissa|X> /me hopes it works
[09:49] <samuli> nooby_god: system/adminitration/disks
[09:49] <issy> Klowner, try multiverse?
[09:49] <Stormx2> Klowner: Have you sudo apt-get updated?
[09:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Klowner: stupud question but did you apt-get update? :P
[09:49] <Stormx2> !info sshfs
[09:49] <ubotu> sshfs: (filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 100 kB
[09:49] <Stormx2> Its in universe.
[09:50] <Klowner> yeah I have
[09:50] <MUFFASO> @find sshfs
[09:50] <Klowner> I'll do it again, weird
[09:50] <Dreamglider> i installed OSS last night, now when i started the pc i dont have any audio, help
[09:50] <eclypse> hey all
[09:50] <Flannel> Klowner: you sure you saved your sources.list? ;)
[09:50] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Dreamglider: why OSS? ALSA has superceded it
[09:50] <Luke> eyequeue: the problem is because I am chrooted into a computer where the internet isnt working
[09:50] <MUFFASO> /j #edubuntu-es
[09:50] <fadeh> RETRY :D hi guys, i've got a problem using xgl + fglrx (x1900xt) + compiz + amd64. After a night of fighting all run fine but i cannot get window border. I've tried some solution but no luck. Any suggestion?
[09:50] <eclypse> this is awesome, what are you guys runnign?
[09:50] <eyequeue> Luke, ahhh
[09:50] <eclypse> I'm running kubuntu
[09:50] <eclypse> on a laptop
[09:50] <Kyral_FreeBSD> fadeh: #ubuntu-xgl
[09:50] <Luke> eyequeue: i cant start it because it says there is no /var/run/network/ifstate
[09:50] <B1zz> Xubuntu
[09:50] <Klowner> Flannel: yeees ;)
[09:50] <Flannel> fadeh: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL related support
[09:50] <IIIEars> eyeque - Eureka! System .. Preferences .. Sessions ..  (TAB) "Start Up Programs" -
[09:50] <Stormx2> Klowner: Ubuntu is waging psycological warfare on you.
[09:50] <samuli> fadeh, join #ubuntu-xgl
[09:51] <Dreamglider> Kyral_FreeBSD, i wanted to try somthing diffrent, i hoped it would work better
[09:51] <Klowner> ubuntu jedi mind tricks!
[09:51] <Dreamglider> guess i was very wrong
[09:51] <nooby_god> this si the most important question I'll ask, is linux-wlan-ng INCLUDED on the installer?
[09:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> FreeBSD on this machine, ArchLinux on my Laptop and Desktop, and then Debian/Xen on my server
[09:51] <Stormx2> I think for Edgy, Startup Programs should have its own heading under Preferences
[09:51] <eclypse> so wow...this is all Ubuntu community in here?
[09:51] <zooy0rk> has anyone gotten their hands on a nforce5 yet and tried it in linux?
[09:51] <eclypse> yeah
[09:51] <nooby_god> please I really need to know this?
[09:51] <fadeh> thanx guys
[09:51] <eclypse> I agree, storm.
[09:51] <MoxJe1> Kyral: If I try installing FreeBSD on one of my other computers, will it work happily networkwise with Ubuntu?
[09:51] <issy> ahh, nothin' makes ya feel more alive than booting an OS from a floppy, mmmm
[09:51] <nooby_god> eclypse #gentoo is bigger
[09:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> netowrkwise?
[09:51] <nooby_god> this si the most important question I'll ask, is linux-wlan-ng INCLUDED on the installer?
[09:51] <Disorder> Ok, im trying to make a decision, but since im asking in here, I think I know the answer. Would you perfer Debian or Ubuntu. Dont answer unless you have tried both.
[09:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> nooby_god: I don;t know sorry
[09:51] <eyequeue> Luke, once you say "chroot" i'm somewhat lost as to what to suggest for that, but if you can fetch the .deb manually, you can dpkg -i foo.deb, if you can get it to the chroot
[09:52] <Stormx2> eclypse: It should also not screw up >_<
[09:52] <MoxJe1> Kyral: Like sharing folders and so on
[09:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Disorder: heehe, wanna start a flaemwar?
[09:52] <IIIEars> MoxJe1: If it uses Samba YES. :)
[09:52] <NoUse> nooby_god I don't think its installed by default, but its in synaptic
[09:52] <MoxJe1> Ears: My ubuntu uses samba
[09:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> MoxJe1: or even SSH
[09:52] <Disorder> Im wanting a good opinion.
[09:52] <_chaOS_> .
[09:52] <issy> *gives Disorder a good opinion*
[09:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Disorder: oy okay. I have used both
[09:52] <Stormx2> Oh meh I'm gonna have to install ubuntu for the 3rd time in 6 months :(
[09:52] <eclypse> lol
[09:52] <nooby_god> NoUse so that means I will not have internet access after I install?
[09:52] <eclypse> believe it or not guys, I'm running dialup
[09:52] <Flannel> www: .xsession is blank by default.  Unless you've added something to it previously, you should be fine running without one
[09:52] <www> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1133779#post1133779 - Anyone got any ideas?
[09:52] <Stormx2> well, 8 months.
[09:52] <eclypse> I hav ea really complicated setup
[09:52] <eclypse> lol
[09:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Disorder: hell, I still do. So..
[09:52] <eclypse> or not really
[09:52] <eclypse> I'm getting internet from my desktop
[09:52] <Stormx2> eclypse: =O shocking
[09:52] <eyequeue> Luke, once you get to the mirror (any) browse the tree for pool/main/l/lilo/lilo_22.6.1-7ubuntu2_i386.deb
[09:52] <MoxJe1> eclypse: whoa hello 1990
[09:52] <eclypse> which is running windows
[09:52] <eclypse> lol
[09:52] <eugman> Is there any way to make synaptic less " Look at me! I'm installing stuff. FLASH FLASH FLASH. Don't minimize me! I want attention. FLASH FLASH FLASH" ?
[09:52] <eclypse> well
[09:52] <issy> eclypse, oldskool!
[09:53] <eclypse> I can't get anything else where I live
[09:53] <Luke> eyequeue: i'm chrooted into the harddrive of the computer I am running the livecd on. I've got internet working on the livecd but I cant get it started on the harddrive. any suggestions?
[09:53] <eclypse> not exactly my fault
[09:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Disorder: Private Msg? This could get ugly
[09:53] <eclypse> how do I change my font?
[09:53] <MoxJe1> eclypse: that's why you don't live in sibiria
[09:53] <calisee> Where can I get xlib-devel package for ubuntu?
[09:53] <NoUse> nooby_god depends on your card etc
[09:53] <www> Flannel, I'll remove it and see what happens. I thought it was required :!
[09:53] <gnomefreak> calisee: sudo apt-get install xlib-dev
[09:53] <IIIEars> eugman: Use aptitude??
[09:53] <samuli> nooby_god: I think ndiswrapper is on the installer cd (not desktop) and you might take that one to be more on the safe side.
[09:53] <Stormx2> !info xlib-dev
[09:53] <eclypse> I ilve in northern california
[09:53] <calisee> gnomefreak: thanks
[09:53] <nooby_god> NoUse the only driver for my card, is linux-wlan-ng
[09:53] <Disorder> Yea, It could. =P I dont care really, Im just wanting to know some pros and cons of each =P
[09:53] <eyequeue> Luke, no, chroot is beyond me, sorry
[09:53] <eclypse> no dsl or anything out here
[09:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Disorder: which is why I say PMSG :P
[09:53] <eclypse> hwo do I change my font color?
[09:53] <nooby_god> samuli isn't that dangerous?
[09:54] <jonah> hi can anyone help me out with a small problem?
[09:54] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Disorder: because I will be brultal and piss off a lot of people in the process :P
[09:54] <eyequeue> Luke, someone else may be able to help with that part though
[09:54] <samuli> nooby_god: what is?
[09:54] <Stormx2> eclypse: Font colours are looked down on in Freenode, if you are talking about IRC
[09:54] <lilbit> what's the best free game for linux?
[09:54] <Disorder> Ok.
[09:54] <nooby_god> the last time I used ndiswrapper my kernel paniced
[09:54] <www>  :)
[09:54] <calisee> gnomefreak: that wasn't a package name actually, i just tried that before haha
[09:54] <MoxJe1> Kyral: Does wine work with FreeBSD?
[09:54] <NoUse> nooby_god I used it no prob
[09:54] <nooby_god> *paniced
[09:54] <Kyral_FreeBSD> lilbit: NetHack
[09:54] <nooby_god> ok
[09:54] <nooby_god> thank you
[09:54] <Luke> eyequeue: ok thanks
[09:54] <IIIEars> Nethack
[09:54] <ajax4> jonah: ask away
[09:54] <samuli> nooby_god: hehe, well I wouldn't consider ndiswrapper 'dangerous'
[09:54] <eclypse> gtg
[09:54] <eclypse> I'll be back later guys
[09:54] <eclypse> ttyl
[09:54] <Kyral_FreeBSD> MoxJe1: Dunno, first you need to activate Linux Binary Compat :P
[09:54] <gnomefreak> Disorder: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic than they will give you a list of pros adn cons
[09:54] <www>  Hopefully my 6 hours trying to find a solution will now come to an end
[09:54] <lilbit> Kyral_FreeBSD, thanks
[09:54] <MoxJe1> Kyral: Oh shit
[09:54] <Luke> i'm chrooted into the harddrive of the computer I am running the livecd on. I've got internet working on the livecd but I cant get it started on the harddrive. any suggestions?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> calisee: on dapper?
[09:54] <kimo> !xgl
[09:54] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:55] <calisee> gnomefreak: ya
[09:55] <MoxJe1> Kyral: I'll stick with my ubuntu then ;)
[09:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> MoxJe1: BSD isn't even Linux :P
[09:55] <jonah> ok thanks well it's my laptop, it doesn't beep when battery is running out so if i;m not watching it will turn itself off!
[09:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> and I am LAGGIN!
[09:55] <IIIEars> lilbit - "Wine" or "Cedega" - (silly grin)
[09:55] <MoxJe1> Kyral: No but um I thought maybe it was compatible with wine anyway
[09:55] <gnomefreak> calisee: xlibs-dev
[09:55] <Stormx2> So I'm reinstalling dapper now. How do I make a /home partition? Just add an ext3 partition and give it a /home mountpoint?
[09:55] <calisee> gnomefreak: that did the trick thank you
[09:55] <gnomefreak> calisee: sorry forgot the s the first time
[09:56] <kimo> ubotu: thank you ;)
[09:56] <ubotu> kimo: de nada
[09:56] <lilbit> how do I get nethack
[09:56] <samuli> Stormx2: yeah.
[09:56] <Stormx2> Goodo
[09:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> apt-get install Nethack :D
[09:56] <lurker99> Disorder: ubuntu on my laptops for worry free full funtionality, and a minimalist debian on my servers with only what I need...
[09:56] <lilbit> is it nethack-gnome?
[09:56] <Stormx2> And I should make a /boot parition too?
[09:56] <ajax4> jonah: never used Ubuntu or any other Linux on a laptop so I don't know what programs you would run to monitor the battery. Someone else in here might though.
[09:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Debian..stable is insanely stable
[09:56] <Stormx2> How big should the /boot, /home and / partitions be?
[09:56] <jonah> it's weird cos dapper doesn't have all the cool gnome sounds that breezy had, they're turned off but i used to think they were quite useful. a wastebin emptying noise and a couple of other would be useful as confirmation and especially battery low warning sounds
[09:56] <issy> I still can't seem to get Planescape Torment running on wine, though it says on winehq that it works
[09:56] <samuli> Stormx2: if you wish.
[09:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> but outdated as a consequence
[09:56] <Flannel> lilbit: could be.  "nethack" package will install everything you need
[09:56] <Dreamglider> how can i get rid of OSS and use ALSA again ?
[09:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Then again Ubuntu is decended from Debian
[09:57] <samuli> Stormx2: Only partition you really need is / but separate home is always a good idea.
[09:57] <Disorder> Yea.
[09:57] <ajax4> Flannel: I'm still waiting for the noegnud package. :(
[09:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Which SOME people seem to forget...
[09:57] <Yango> I can't find my device using ubuntu packaged version of cdrecord... what should I do?
[09:57] <issy> Kyral_FreeBSD, good info to learn
[09:57] <eyequeue> Stormx2, i've got 80m in my /boot presently
[09:57] <BoD[] > Hello!
[09:57] <kimo> Google earth for Linux, yaaaaaaaay :)   http://earth.google.com/tour/thanks-linux4.html
[09:57] <Stormx2> samuli: Well I'm thinking incase grub screws up again.
[09:57] <Rambo3> Kyral_FreeBSD: what are you moral police?
[09:57] <Disorder> But would you perfer sticking with Debain or go with the extension of Ubuntu
[09:57] <eyequeue> Stormx2, depends how many kernels and such you want to carry
[09:57] <issy> Google earth is only really useful if you want to locate secret government installations
[09:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Rambo3: I just have seen way too many Ubuntu - Debian flamewars recently :P
[09:57] <BoD[] > Hey, how do you install mp3 playing capabilities?
[09:57] <samuli> Stormx2: well.. it screws up on the /boot instead of /.. *shrugs* :)
[09:58] <lilbit> nethack-x11 3.4.3-8ubuntu2
[09:58] <lilbit>   nethack-qt 3.4.3-8ubuntu2
[09:58] <lilbit>   nethack-lisp 3.4.3-8ubuntu2
[09:58] <lilbit>   nethack-gnome 3.4.3-8ubuntu2
[09:58] <lilbit>   nethack-console 3.4.3-8ubuntu2
[09:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ack NO PASTE
[09:58] <lilbit> which one?
[09:58] <Flannel> lilbit: right, you get your choice of the environment to play it in
[09:58] <blanky> !tell lilbit about pastebin
[09:58] <samuli> lilbit, nethack-gnome
[09:58] <ompaul> lagggg
[09:58] <Flannel> lilbit: -console is the console version, gnome will play in gnome
[09:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Debian is awesome for servers...
[09:58] <ompaul> lilbit, don't paste in the channel please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org this channel is too busy
[09:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Frankly I use Arch for desktop lol
[09:58] <Stormx2> eyeque: Hmm. Any suggestions? If I only wanted to carry the ubuntu kernel releases for the next year or two?
[09:59] <issy> Kyral_FreeBSD, any knowledge of how well Gentoo runs as a server?
[09:59] <MoxJe1> How much better is Cedega than Wine?
[09:59] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:59] <Stormx2> eyequeue: And what about /home and /? meh.
[09:59] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[09:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> issy: I haven't run Gentoo in a couple years
[09:59] <blanky> MoxJe1, a lot, for games that is. Wine's slowly, verly slowly, catching up
[09:59] <MoxJe1> ok thanks. I was thinking game-wise
[09:59] <lilbit> ompaul, sorry, i didnt think I would get caught if it was just a littke
[09:59] <jonah> anyone know how to get battery warning sounds in dapper?
[09:59] <eyequeue> Stormx2, /home depends on your practices, and / here is smaller, because i have a /usr and /usr/local and ./var
[10:00] <ompaul> lilbit, two lines of enter and bingo
[10:00] <samuli> Stormx2: / should be at least 2GB but better to have something like 5 or more.
[10:00] <samuli> Stormx2: You'll be using /home to contain all your personal files like movies etc so make it as big as you need.
[10:00] <yoshiznit123> hey, some dev packages have been broken for a while now (libdbus-1-dev for example), does anybody know when they'll be fixed and/or if there's a workaround to install it?
[10:00] <dhendrix> Hello everyone. I'm new to Ubuntu and haven't used Debian in a while. It seems that my "Hoary Hedgehog" install doesn't have some header files (stdarg.h, for example), and i can't seem to find a gcc-devel package. What package(s) should I be looking for to install these extra headers?
[10:01] <MoxJe1> what alternatives does Mac OSX users have to run windows applications (such as games)
[10:01] <samuli> Stormx2: programs go to / so again, make space according to your tastes and what's available.
[10:01] <Luke> i'm chrooted into the harddrive of the computer I am running the livecd on. I've got internet working on the livecd but I cant get it started on the harddrive. any suggestions?
[10:01] <nostalg1c> MoxJe1, you could put a windows box next to it
[10:01] <Melissa|X> MoxJe1: BootCamp maybe?
[10:01] <yoshiznit123> dhendrix: have you installed build-essential?
[10:01] <tr1gg3r> dhendrix: maybe build-essential
[10:01] <Dreamglider> reboot
[10:01] <Flannel> MoxJe1: it's a perfect questtion to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:01] <ajax4> jonah: have you looked in System > Preferences > Sounds ?
[10:02] <nooby_god> what are the general guidelines for using KDE applications in Ubuntu? Will they work? or has ubuntu done some voodo magic?
[10:02] <NoUse> or in #macosx
[10:02] <jonah> ajax4: yeah but there doesn't seem to be much you can set sounds for
[10:02] <dhendrix> tr1gg3r, yoshiznit123: Thanks for responding so quickly! Yes, i do have build-essential installed. What else can I try searching for?
[10:02] <samuli> dhendrix: why are you installing hoary?
[10:02] <ajax4> nooby_god: install them and they work. No extra stuff required.
[10:02] <Flannel> nooby_god: they will work.  You'll download some KDE libraries, for the first few, but they'll work fine, no issues.
[10:02] <MoxJe1> :P sorry for asking here
[10:02] <ompaul> MoxJe1, your way ooooooff topic for here, that was not a ubuntu support question at all
[10:02] <ajax4> jonah: Battery warning might be covered on one of those. Hang on, let me check something.
[10:02] <Melissa|X> dhendrix: try installing the *-dev packages
[10:03] <MoxJe1> bah i'm always making a scene
[10:03] <Flannel> MoxJe1: just ask all the random questions in -offtopic ;)
[10:03] <jonah> thanks ajax4
[10:03] <SAM_theman> bbl later guys ok about in 2hrs
[10:03] <IIIEars> gnomefreak - Does cdrecord phone home?  cdrecord-ProDVD seems to. http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/utils/schilling/cdrecord/ProDVD/README.key
[10:03] <dhendrix> samuli:  Some coworkers were having problems with Dapper, so I decided to try and be safe on my workstation.
[10:04] <dhendrix> Melissa|X:  Thanks, I'll see what I can find in there.
[10:04] <Melissa|X> good luck <3
[10:05] <samuli> dhendrix: problem is that hoary isn't supported any more and is getting really old anyways.. breezy would be a better choice.
[10:05] <dhendrix> Is there a command like Gentoo's qpkg that I can use on someone elses' machine to figure out which package a certain file belongs to?
[10:05] <X_Spider> is qtparted used in the ubuntu installer? because i have some problem with qtparted when i want to install kubuntu
[10:05] <yoshiznit123> dhendrix: dpkg -S file
[10:05] <gnomefreak> IIIEars: what did that have to do with me?
[10:05] <tr1gg3r> dhendrix: man dpkg
[10:05] <dhendrix> samuli:  This one isn't under my control :(
[10:05] <thewayofzen> xubuntu question :   when installing DAPPER UBUNTU and using the restricted media page as well as the ubuntu guide i am able to get a fully functional box that plays all media quite well.   When i install DAPPER XUBUNTU (from the xubuntu iso) and following the same pages and using apt to install all IDENTICAL packages.. i get a box that will not play mp3s or anything.. xmms simply cycles through the list on turb
[10:05] <thewayofzen> o without playing audo... HELP?
[10:05] <ompaul> samuli, it is supported until Octover
[10:05] <Flannel> samuli, dhendrix: hoary is still supported.
[10:05] <tonedahl> I've already got one ext3 partition. / that is. I've got 15 GB unused (no partition). How do I merge them into / ?
[10:05] <dhendrix> yoshiznit123:  Thanks again! I'll try that out right now.
[10:05] <samuli> ompaul, o-kay. well it's very old still.
[10:06] <ajax4> jonah: Read the description in Synaptic for a program called kpowersave
[10:06] <thewayofzen> audo = audio.. any ideas?
[10:06] <Stormx2> How big should the ubuntu swap partition be?
[10:06] <IIIEars> gnomefreak - (embarassed) erm, (sheepish grin) thought you might know..
[10:06] <zanzaban> howdy all. 2 questions: are there any easy to install ubuntu-on-a-stick distros? and are there any good HD recovery tools for linux that can bring an ntfs volume back to life?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> IIIEars: sorry i didnt see a question in there
[10:06] <stevekl> Stormx2: it depends on how much RAM you have. I've been told that you should make it twice the size of the RAM you have
[10:06] <ompaul> thewayofzen, check the message from ubotu
[10:06] <tr1gg3r> tonedahl: dont think u can, create a new part for ur free space and mount it somewhere
[10:06] <tybalt> stormx2, usually 50% more than the amount of ram you have
[10:06] <stevekl> Stormx2: So this laptop i'm using has 512 mb, I put the swap at 1 gb
[10:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Stormx2: Swap is a fuzzy thing. General rule is if RAM < 512 MB than Swap = 2xRAM
[10:06] <zanzaban> cause i have a laptop HD that wont boot, and i want to try and run some diags on it
[10:06] <tonedahl> but I want 'em merged :(
[10:06] <Disorder> I heard it was 2*RAM
[10:07] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Stormx2: if RAM <= 1GB then Swap = RAM
[10:07] <samuli> Stormx2: one rule is twice the size of your ram.. but if you have plenty like gig or two you could be better off with smaller swap.
[10:07] <tr1gg3r> Stormx2: at least 2x ram if u want suspend to disk to work
[10:07] <thewayofzen> ompaul: if u read my statement you would know ive followed all those steps on ubuntu iso install and xubuntu iso install both and have only had success on vanilla ubuntu
[10:07] <yoshiznit123> does anyone know how to get around dev packages that have been broken for a while now (libdbus-1-dev for example), and/or when they'll be fixed?
[10:07] <Kyral_FreeBSD> if RAM > 1.5 GB then Swap = .5xRAM
[10:07] <jonah> ajax4: sorry my battery went when i went in other room and my system shut down! haha ironic huh?
[10:07] <Kyral_FreeBSD> as a general rule
[10:07] <tybalt> heh, I have 1gb of ram, and I can't even get the thing to utilize any swap space
[10:07] <rgouin> .
[10:07] <IIIEars> Does cdrecord phone home? It is non-free. The read me mentions an "expiring license".  just wondered
[10:07] <ompaul> zanzaban, a lot of live CDs can be used to rescue "unreadable" data from windows boxes
[10:08] <larry> when new versions of ubuntu come out, is it possible to just dist-upgrade to them?
[10:08] <Kyral_FreeBSD> cdrecord is nonfree?
[10:08] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !dapper
[10:08] <ubotu> dapper is probably Ubuntu 6.06, the "Dapper Drake" release. Released June 1st 2006
[10:08] <Flannel> larry: yep
[10:08] <richiefrich> it's free
[10:08] <LiteHedded> NoUse: my sound has stopped working. anything to do with what we did fixing my ati?
[10:08] <zanzaban> ompaul: awesome. i'm not sure if it's bad platters, or if the read arms arent swinging
[10:08] <eyequeue> larry, a couple commands also, but yes
[10:08] <ompaul> zanzaban, as for on a stick that is more to do with (A) a large stick (B) a bios that supports it
[10:08] <ompaul> zanzaban, or just windows rot
[10:08] <zanzaban> i have a 1gb jdlightning
[10:08] <Kyral_FreeBSD> zanzaban: Damn Small Linux or Puppy Linux are prolly better rfor that
[10:08] <ajax4> jonah: Hehe, I see a bunch of apps in Synaptic that monitor and display your battery life. kpowersave, xbatt, xbatbar, powersaved, and others.
[10:09] <larry> I just installed ubuntu for the first time last night.  I have to say it's very impressive.
[10:09] <LiteHedded> my sound stopped working afteri rebooted. can anyone help me?
[10:09] <Stormx2> So i need 4 partitions on this? How do I do it? o.O
[10:09] <zanzaban> not windows rot, it' wont boot at all. maybe a super destroyed fat table :D
[10:09] <ajax4> ajax4: I don't have any experience with any of those but one of them is bound to be what you are looking for.
[10:09] <rbgCODE_> ?
[10:09] <stevekl> Man, gnome is so much more elegant than KDE
[10:09] <ajax4> jonah: that previous message was directed to you.
[10:09] <Kyral_FreeBSD> stevekl: don't start it :P
[10:09] <Stormx2> Oh dear god, I think I just screwed up my partition table
[10:09] <MoxJe1> steveki: indeed
[10:09] <stevekl> You get to a stage in your life where customization isn't so important and ease of use is
[10:09] <SAM_theman> Nevermind I'll stay
[10:09] <SAM_theman> :P
[10:10] <SAM_theman> i was going to sneek on windows
[10:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> stevekl: We have dodged 3 FlameWars in the past 30 mins :P
[10:10] <SAM_theman> *Sneak
[10:10] <IIIEars> Kyral_FreeBSD: Though "Puppy Linux" does everything as root user.  Don't know if you can set up a second limited rights user easily.
[10:10] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[10:10] <mutil8> im running 6.06 amd64 release, and having a few problems, 1 is getting flash working, the other is getting grub to boot my windows install as well, it's on a second drive
[10:10] <ompaul> thewayofzen it might be that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xmms might help but #xubuntu might be better
[10:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> IIIEars: I haven't used Puppy :P DSL ftw :D
[10:11] <X_Spider> I don't know if Ubuntu use qtparted in is installer, but i can't install Kubuntu. The installer can't start qtparted and when i'm starting qtparted in konsole, i'm getting a segmentation fault. I tried to remove all linux partition, upgrade qtparted, verify that my partitions was good... but i didn't find any problem
[10:11] <megaman123> i lost my dvb card in the update from 5.10 to 6.06 .. how can i reinstall it ??
[10:11] <Kyral_FreeBSD> whats a dvb card
[10:11] <stevekl> Kyral_FreeBSD: I have failed to start a fight. I must be getting rusty
[10:11] <IIIEars> stevekl: lol
[10:11] <megaman123> satelite card
[10:11] <lurker99> mutil8: pastebin ur grub menu.lst and an fdisk -l
[10:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Still over my head lol
[10:12] <linuxboyfriend> i wanna install moodle, it says that it will install php5-gd and will remove libgd2-noxpm, i have install LAMP which have php4. i wanna ask that by allowing apt to install php5-gd and remove libgd2-noxpm, will it disturb my lamp installation or not?
[10:12] <Stormx2> Let me get this straight. I need to have 4 paritions on this HDD. So I do, partition 1, parition 2, and then an extended partition? Containing 3 and 4?
[10:12] <ompaul> stevekl, pragmatic, it can't really be argued with :)
[10:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> linuxboyfriend: ditch php4 and upgrade to php5 if you can without breaking :P
[10:12] <stevekl> Stormx2: I did 2 primary partitions (root and /home) and then one extended partition containing /boot and my swap
[10:12] <zanzaban> hmmmm, okay DSL looks good for my needs
[10:12] <IIIEars> linuxboy - a bit seperate from your question but, give suPHP a look.
[10:13] <zanzaban> looks like i have to make a live cd before i can istall to jumpdrive
[10:13] <SAM_theman> how would I wipe a usb stick>???
[10:13] <linuxboyfriend> Kyral_FreeBSD, wouldn't it break my lamp installation/configuration?
[10:13] <Stormx2> Oh wait I think I need 5 partitions, I have an extra FAT partition on my disk
[10:13] <ompaul> SAM_theman, Sytem Administation Disks
[10:13] <Kyral_FreeBSD> linuxboyfriend: unless you like wrote stuff that turning off register_globals() would break, nope
[10:13] <LiteHedded> can someone help me get my sound working again?
[10:13] <Stormx2> Can do do FAT partition, /, EXTENDED containing: /boot /swap and /home?
[10:13] <LiteHedded> i rebooted and I have no sound now
[10:13] <Flannel> linuxboyfriend: they shouldn't.  If you upgrade to php5 for your lamp one as well, you'll have to get a few other packages, the linking packages, etc.
[10:14] <jonah> ajax4: i wouldn't like to install things i don't need, is there just no way to turn a battery warning on? why have they left this out of dapper, seems a bit crazy to me!
[10:14] <Kyral_FreeBSD> linuxboyfriend: I just did it to my server and only trouble I had was that I forgot to insert the php5 module into apache
[10:14] <lurker99> if you only need 4 partitions, and swap is one of them, why go to an extended setup?  wouldn't 4 regular partitions work out better?
[10:14] <stevekl> Stormx2: I don't see why not
[10:14] <Stormx2> Good, OK
[10:14] <stevekl> Stormx2: but I don't really understand partitioning as well as I should so...don't quote me on this
[10:14] <ajax4> jonah: I'm sure one of those packages will turn a low battery warning on for you.
[10:14] <Kyral_FreeBSD> linuxboyfriend: basically what I did was do "sudo apt-get remove php4-common" then noted what packages went byebye
[10:15] <Kyral_FreeBSD> then installed the php5 versions :P
[10:15] <larry> multiple partitions are over-rated
[10:15] <linuxboyfriend> Kyral_FreeBSD, ok i will upgrade to php5 but kindly tell me that how do you insert module in apache?
[10:15] <Stormx2> I don't know how big my /boot should be....
[10:15] <stevekl> Stormx2: Oh not big. Don't make it more than 100mb
[10:15] <mutil8> lurker99: http://pastebin.com/707262
[10:15] <stevekl> Stormx2: it only contains grub configuratoin files and a kernel image
[10:15] <Kyral_FreeBSD> linuxboyfriend: something like a2enmod or somesuch. Read /etc/apache2/README
[10:15] <Stormx2> I'll make it 50mb
[10:15] <krieger> hi all
[10:16] <stevekl> uh
[10:16] <Bilange> 100mb is a tad big... but I assume its from someone whos isntalling various kernels and customize his boot process alot
[10:16] <stevekl> root@leonidas:~# mount /boot
[10:16] <stevekl> mount: can't find /boot in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:16] <stevekl> Is this bad?
[10:16] <Kyral_FreeBSD> stevekl: live environment?
[10:16] <stevekl> Kyral_FreeBSD: no
[10:16] <ompaul> stevekl,  cd /boot
[10:16] <RadiantFire> stevekl: do you have a seperate partition on /boot?
[10:16] <krieger> got a problem, if i use nv as X driver, the desktop runs (obviosly) stable now, if i use nvidia the desktop is freezing after some time, any clues???
[10:16] <krieger> (using Drapper)
[10:16] <stevekl> Arg, I thought I told it I wanted a separate /boot partition
[10:17] <stevekl> RadiantFire: I THOUGHT I did
[10:17] <stevekl> wth
[10:17] <RadiantFire> stevekl: easily remedied
[10:17] <megaman123> ok..i have some stuff in the Trash that doesn't want to be deleted..says i have no permission...maybe i deleted as root..how can i delete it from my other user?
[10:17] <stevekl> RadiantFire: What should I do?
[10:17] <Stormx2> So I have 16gb available. 9gb for /, 5gb for /home, 1.5gb for swap and 50mb for /boot. Great!
[10:17] <RadiantFire> stevekl: you can leave it
[10:17] <ajax4> krieger: I think you have to turn off RenderAccel in your xorg.conf file if you have problems with that.
[10:17] <RadiantFire> stevekl: or you can boot with a live CD, create a new partition, mount it somewhere, then copy boot into it, then edit /etc/fstab to mount the new partition on /boot
[10:17] <krieger> ajax4, thx i`ll try
[10:18] <RadiantFire> stevekl: that might break grub though
[10:18] <stevekl> It bothers me that I THOUGHT I told the installer to create a /boot partition and it apparently didn't...it just put grub and the kernel image on the root partition under boot
[10:18] <stevekl> apparently
[10:18] <ajax4> krieger: np. You'll take a performance hit but thats the only thing I've found that stopped my system from crashing.
[10:19] <Ayabara> Running ubuntu now, and I'm curious about the kubuntu-desktop. Are there any downsides to having both kde and gnome installed on ubuntu?
[10:19] <pianoboy3333> Can I have some help with hard drive recovery? Ubiquity messed up my current main hard drive, and I'm trying to see if there's a way to recover some of my data, for more info read at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1132513
[10:19] <linuxboyfriend> Kyral_FreeBSD, ok its "a2enmod" but where should i write this to enable this module?
[10:19] <krieger> ajax4, the only prob is, there is nothing like RenderAccel in my xorg.conf
[10:19] <stevekl> Ayabara: Naw, but you'll have to choose wether you want to run kdm or gdm
[10:19] <Kyral_FreeBSD> aside from diskspace nope
[10:19] <HedgeMage> Ayabara: other than the hard-disk space it takes, not really
[10:19] <Kyral_FreeBSD> linuxboyfriend: commandline?
[10:20] <Kyral_FreeBSD> as root of course
[10:20] <Ayabara> sounds safe to try then :-)
[10:20] <zanzaban> ok, so i guess the next question is, what is the best HD recovery tool for linux?
[10:20] <ajax4> krieger: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep RenderAccel returns nothing?
[10:20] <Kyral_FreeBSD> oh and you'll have to restart Apache for any changes to take affect
[10:20] <ompaul> zanzaban, a live cd
[10:20] <linuxboyfriend> Kyral_FreeBSD, sorry? but i thought i had to put it in some .conf file?
[10:20] <krieger> ajax4, negative
[10:21] <Ayabara> once installed, how do I switch between gnome and kde?
[10:21] <stevekl> Hm, will having my /boot on the same partition as / cause any damage?
[10:21] <zanzaban> ompaul: does it include everything needed?
[10:21] <Kyral_FreeBSD> linuxboyfriend: are you familier with modprobe?
[10:21] <zanzaban> to analyze how borked the HD is?
[10:21] <samuli> Ayabara, Having lots of stuff that you don't want on the menubars and having to manually remove them.
[10:21] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Ayabara: GDM or KDM will allow you to select
[10:21] <linuxboyfriend> Kyral_FreeBSD, yes
[10:21] <Flannel> linuxboyfriend: a2enmod is a command to enable modules, you run it
[10:21] <mutil8> lurker99: any ideas?
[10:21] <ompaul> zanzaban, all the ones I have seen do
[10:21] <eyequeue> stevekl, no, most do exactly that
[10:21] <zanzaban> ah cool
[10:21] <Kyral_FreeBSD> linuxboyfriend: think of a2enmod or whatever as the Apache equivelent of modprobe :P
[10:21] <krieger> stevekl, nope
[10:21] <stevekl> Ok, i'll not worry about it
[10:22] <zanzaban> last time i messed with linux was back in 2001
[10:22] <zanzaban> mandrake 8.0
[10:22] <Stormx2> I screwed up the paritioning AGAIN!
[10:22] <krieger> stevekl, but dont use ReiserFS or something like that
[10:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> hahaha
[10:22] <ompaul> zanzaban, don't mess do, its too easy
[10:22] <ajax4> krieger: Find the Section that has all the info of your video card in it. Then add a line that says: Option  "RenderAccel"   "Off"
[10:22] <ompaul> Stormx2, maybe leave it for today
[10:22] <zanzaban> haha
[10:22] <zanzaban> :D
[10:22] <krieger> ajax4, yepp
[10:22] <linuxboyfriend> Kyral_FreeBSD, lemme try and then i will ask you, if i feel any trouble :) OK?
[10:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> linuxboyfriend: sure
[10:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I just hope you know how to get yourself outta trouble
[10:22] <zanzaban> if i get really excited i'll make an ubuntu on a stick
[10:23] <zanzaban> :D
[10:23] <Kyral_FreeBSD> my upgrade went somewhat well. YMMV
[10:23] <Stormx2> ompaul: Nah. I must be doing something wrong ^_^
[10:23] <krieger> ajax4, mean the device section?
[10:23] <ajax4> krieger: Add that line and restart your X server and see if you continue to have problems. My system stopped crashing after that.
[10:23] <linuxboyfriend> Kyral_FreeBSD, thanks
[10:23] <Ayabara> samuli: meaning you don't like KDE? :-)
[10:23] <Stormx2> ompaul: How many logical partitions can an extended partition hold?
[10:23] <megaman123> how do i empty the trash ??
[10:23] <ompaul> Stormx2, is there a working windows on it?
[10:23] <ajax4> krieger: Yes, the device section.
[10:23] <Flannel> megaman123: right click the trash icon and "empty"
[10:23] <ompaul> Stormx2, extended lots
[10:23] <eyequeue> megaman123, right click on it
[10:23] <Stormx2> No. Theres a working nothing on the entire computer ^_^
[10:23] <Kyral_FreeBSD> megaman123: walk outside and dump it in the dumpster :P
[10:23] <ompaul> Stormx2, more than you will want
[10:23] <megaman123> nope...no work
[10:23] <megaman123> it says i have no permission
[10:24] <ompaul> stormx got a live CD?
[10:24] <Stormx2> ompaul: Let me just scetch up what I'm trying to do
[10:24] <primlantah> cany anyone give me a simple definition of packet injection?
[10:24] <ompaul> Stormx2, you gave us a clue eariler
[10:24] <krieger> ajax4, kay done... just waiting for downloads to end, and then i restart X and tell ya what happened kay? ^^
[10:24] <Flannel> primlantah: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:24] <lurker99> mutil8:  no really.  i was hopping for sumthin simple. :-) have you tried 'makeactive'?  and i assume it boots ok w/windows as sda?   [ anyone else have any ideas? ] 
[10:24] <julls> si meto un pendrive donde veo el contendio desde ubuntu=
[10:24] <julls> ??
[10:24] <Flannel> !es
[10:24] <ajax4> krieger: Good luck. How often does it crash now?
[10:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:24] <blanky> primlantah, don't know, google 'define: package injection'
[10:24] <Das|School> How do you reinstall again? sudo apt-get install -[something]  [package] 
[10:25] <stevekl> Das|School: --reinstall I think
[10:25] <stevekl> man apt-get!
[10:25] <krieger> ajax4, in Gentoo it crashed, killed my gentoo tried ubuntu now and... about 12 Times for now -.-
[10:25] <samuli> Das|School: --reinstall :)
[10:25] <eyequeue> Das|School, --reinstall
[10:25] <ajax4> krieger: I mean how long does your system stay up before crashing?
[10:25] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Uptime: 19 days, 1 hours and 7 minutes
[10:26] <jaek> can anyone run stellarium and tell me if their fonts are effed up?
[10:26] <ompaul> Stormx2, install windows on the box on a limited size parition, then install ubuntu on it, partition 1 / parition 2 swap (twice the ram) partition 3 /home
[10:26] <krieger> ajax4, dont know, i just pushed the reset button... but the strange thing is, i cant go into tty2 cause my keyboard isnt working but i can talk in skype xD
[10:26] <ajax4> krieger: that is odd.
[10:26] <krieger> ajax4, yepp
[10:27] <megaman123> no one knows how to empty the trash if whats in it was deleted by root ??
[10:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> megaman123: if you rm'd it as root its GONE
[10:27] <Stormx2> ompaul: Think I should just scrap the /boot idea? Meh I think I will. http://pastebin.ca/65230
[10:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> megaman123: this is why people don't go running around as root all the time :D
[10:27] <lurker99> mutil8: you mighit try /j #grub
[10:28] <rt> Is there some convenient package to install that will install gcc/make/kernel source?
[10:28] <Flannel> megaman123: how did you delete it as root?  rm?
[10:28] <ompaul> Stormx2, ehh what size is the drive?
[10:28] <stevekl> rt: built-essentials
[10:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> rt: GCC is Build-Essential
[10:28] <stevekl> er
[10:28] <megaman123> :D well for a newbie like me sometimes root is easier to run things
[10:28] <ajax4> jaek: fonts look good for me in Stellarium
[10:28] <Stormx2> ompaul: 80gb
[10:28] <stevekl> rt: build-essentials
[10:28] <krieger> megaman123, try a chmod -R 777 /
[10:28] <jaek> ajax4, what SDL packages do you have installed?
[10:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> megaman123: its easier yes, but its not secure
[10:28] <Stormx2> ompaul: Hah I put 8gb on that. Sorry!
[10:28] <Flannel> krieger: You'll get kicked for that
[10:28] <krieger> megaman123, thats the real power of root xD
[10:28] <megaman123> no ... i log in as root
[10:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> BAD BAD BAD!!
[10:29] <rt> thanks.
[10:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> megaman123: don't login as root
[10:29] <krieger> Flannel, that was a joke Oo
[10:29] <ajax4> jaek: the updated ones for dapper. You want the actual file and version names?
[10:29] <Flannel> krieger: right, but not everyone here is experienced enough to realize thats a joke.
[10:29] <NoUse> krieger don't do that, I've seen a couple people in this room who did just that
[10:29] <jaek> ajax4, that would be nice... cus i'm using dapper too and all the fonts look messed up
[10:29] <krieger> Flannel, oh sorry^^
[10:29] <ajax4> jaek: messed up how?
[10:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> krieger: I used rm -rf as an example of why not to run as root (and said don't do this in caps) but some idiot scanned the doc for [code]  blocks and did it anyway :P
[10:30] <Stormx2> For the swap partition file system.... ext3 or linux-swap?
[10:30] <Flannel> megaman123: logged into gnome as root?  you'll have to do that same thing to empty it then.  but yeah, don't log in as root
[10:30] <Kyral_FreeBSD> so I added a MASSIVE underlined/italic/bold "DON'T DO THIS!!" to it
[10:30] <jaek> ajax4, all text shows up as other weird shapes and shapes... no actual letters
[10:30] <stevekl> megaman123 is determined to use ubuntu like windows :p
[10:30] <NoUse> Stormx2 swap
[10:30] <Spec> wait wait wait, i wasn't upposed to chmod -R 777 / ? how to fix? o.O
[10:30] <Stormx2> kk
[10:30] <krieger> Right... i understood it... its the gentoo flavour ya know^^
[10:30] <Stormx2> Spec: XD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[10:30] <Spec> ^.~
[10:30] <Kyral_FreeBSD> megaman123: we don't use root because its horribly insecure to go running around like that
[10:31] <Stormx2> Spec: I've done that before, cept on a smaller scale XD~
[10:31] <LiteHedded> can someone help my get my sound working again?
[10:31] <megaman123> im sorry but i still didn;t have enough time to use it as proper linux user
[10:31] <IIIEars> hda is a SATA drive what other options are available?                    /dev/hda {mult_sect_io = 16 write_cache = off dma = on}
[10:31] <Flannel> megaman123: huh?
[10:31] <megaman123> im planning as soon as i finish my masters paper to start learning linux properly
[10:31] <ompaul> Stormx2, my suggestion http://pastebin.ca/65233
[10:31] <Kyral_FreeBSD> megaman123: its one of those things that you ingrain now before you hurt your system :P
[10:31] <ajax4> jaek: Looks good on my box. I'll private message a list of the packages.
[10:31] <Spec> megaman123: the best way to learn is to 'do' LFS
[10:31] <stevekl> megaman123: How does running as a normal user use up any more time?
[10:31] <jaek> ajax4, sweet
[10:31] <stevekl> Look, trust us, DON'T RUN AS ROOT.
[10:32] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Frankly kudos to Google Earth for Linux to install as non-root
[10:32] <ompaul> !root
[10:32] <krieger> jepp
[10:32] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:32] <Kyral_FreeBSD> it detected that I didn't run it as root and installed it into $HOME :D
[10:32] <Ayabara> I can't shake the feeling that my movies look better in xp than in ubuntu. ideas anyone?
[10:32] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Ayabara: no comment
[10:32] <chapium> can someone help me find my modem?  Here's my lscpci and dmesg:   http://pastebin.com/707243   http://pastebin.com/707291
[10:32] <IIIEars> !hdparm.conf
[10:32] <Spec> Ayabara: what's your video card driver?
[10:32] <ubotu> IIIEars: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:32] <Stormx2> ompaul: omg paul! Thanks man. Is the "remaining home" bit inside the extended partition?
[10:33] <Kyral_FreeBSD> man hdparm :P
[10:33] <ompaul> Stormx2, yes
[10:33] <Ayabara> Spec: ati radeon m300
[10:33] <pianoboy3333> Can I have some help with hard drive recovery? Ubiquity messed up my current main hard drive, and I'm trying to see if there's a way to recover some of my data, for more info read at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1132513 basically, I got xubuntu installed over my main ubuntu partition, and I'm trying to recover some data from it... any ideas?
[10:33] <Kyral_FreeBSD> HD Recovery is tricky business
[10:33] <Ayabara> Kyral_FreeBSD: que?
[10:33] <Spec> Ayabara: you have the latest/greatest drivers?
[10:33] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Ayabara: I have no comment because I haven't run Windows in 2 years :P
[10:33] <gnomefreak> brb gonna play ;)
[10:33] <Ayabara> Kyral_FreeBSD: :-)
[10:33] <krieger> pianoboy3333, the only thing i know in this business are windows tools :X
[10:34] <pianoboy3333> krieger: that's fine
[10:34] <krieger> pianoboy3333, want to know more?
[10:34] <IIIEars> Kyral_FreeBSD: lol - That would take "Reading"
[10:34] <Ayabara> Spec: I think so.. I followed the wiki to install the dapper drivers. haven't dl'ed anything from ati's webpages yet
[10:34] <garym> the 6.06 docs mention the desktop and server isos, but the mirrors also have an "alternate" edition.  What is this?  the string does not give any results on the website search.
[10:34] <Ayabara> !ati
[10:34] <ubotu> I heard ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[10:35] <pianoboy3333> krieger: sure
[10:35] <Ayabara> Spec: I installed the 'xorg-driver-fglrx'
[10:36] <Spec> garym: alternate and desktop  both can install desktop or server :p
[10:36] <Spec> garym: alternate cd is an alternative installer, "old-school installer"
[10:36] <NoUse> !tell garym about server
[10:36] <NoUse> Spec the server has its own CD
[10:36] <garym> as in text-mode?
[10:36] <NoUse> !server
[10:36] <Stormx2> ompaul: it still errored! It errored when creating the swap and home partitions :(
[10:36] <pianoboy3333> garym: I encourage people to use the alternate text installer
[10:36] <Spec> you can just type "server" while booting the alternate cd ....
[10:36] <pianoboy3333> As of recently the desktop screwed my computer
[10:36] <krieger> pianoboy3333, got my messages?
[10:36] <Spec> The desktop installer isn't quite there yet, the alt cd is better it seems.
[10:36] <Flannel> Spec: you can't do the LAMP install, nor do you get the server kernels either though.
[10:37] <krieger> pianoboy3333, try tools from Ontrack and O&O
[10:37] <IIIEars> Kyral_FreeBSD: "hdparm -tT" Feel the power!  - grin
[10:37] <pianoboy3333> krieger: no, I haven't for somereason
[10:37] <pianoboy3333> krieger: is your nick registered?
[10:37] <krieger> pianoboy3333, but for sake dont write anything to your main hdd
[10:37] <krieger> nope
[10:37] <pianoboy3333> krieger: yes, you have to register it to use pm here
[10:37] <krieger> jepp
[10:37] <krieger> but now u know
[10:37] <zanzaban> hmmmmm, actually sounds like knoppix is the most idiot proof livecd for my needs
[10:37] <krieger> pianoboy3333, Ontrack easy recovery
[10:38] <krieger> try that
[10:38] <pianoboy3333> krieger: well... not really, cause I didn't get any of your pms, can I have a link to ontrack?
[10:38] <Ayabara> should I use the  fglrx driver or the ati driver?
[10:38] <Flannel> garym: yeah, the alternate is the old textmode CD, it also can do some more stuff, read the blip here (or any of the mirrors): http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[10:38] <krieger> pianoboy3333, sec
[10:38] <pianoboy3333> krieger: ah, yes, I bookmarked that
[10:38] <pianoboy3333> krieger: two others suggested that
[10:38] <pianoboy3333> krieger: it's software?
[10:39] <krieger> pianoboy3333, yepp
[10:39] <krieger> pianoboy3333, http://www.ontrack.com/
[10:39] <calex> hey all, im trying to install a tar file, tells me it can only be done by super user, i type su command and enter password but im told its not correct? i only have one account created
[10:39] <ompaul> Stormx2, read wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions - I guess it would not if windows was not there that is a guess
[10:39] <pianoboy3333> krieger: ok, I will try that, thank you so much
[10:39] <krieger> calex, use sudo
[10:39] <krieger> pianoboy3333, np np^^
[10:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !tell calex about sudo
[10:39] <eyequeue> calex, sudo -i not su
[10:40] <andy101> I am having problems getting my microphone to work, I can play audio, but just not record anything at all. I have checked the volume controls and turned up the microphone. I have tried recording with 'sound recorder' and using arecord, both record silence. I think my soundcard is a RelTech AC'97. My microphone is connected to my microphone socket on my PC.
[10:40] <garym> thx.  I have an old P2 usenet/mail/wifi-hub, is it likely to work with this release?  192M, AMD-K6 350, runs rh FC3 butthat distro drives me nuts for its lack of hardware support and community participation.
[10:40] <on2see> Hi all
[10:40] <Dreamglider> how can i uninstall OSS and go back to ALSA ?
[10:40] <cparker> quesiton! if I go to Places -> Connect to Server... and connect to a Windows share, I get an icon on my Desktop. where is that shortcut actually stored? I don't see anything in /home/cparker/Desktop/
[10:40] <ompaul> andy101, connect it to your soundcard
[10:41] <TassaDarK> hi
[10:41] <krieger> garym, dont think so... too few RAM
[10:41] <calex> krieger thanks makes complete sense now :-)
[10:41] <krieger> calex, np
[10:41] <ompaul> garym, use xubuntu
[10:41] <Jowi> garym: I managed to install the server cd on a p1 133 with 64mb RAM. it is doable.
[10:41] <clinea> so ubuntu doesn't have a tool like system-config-display on redhat?
[10:42] <andy101> ompaul: connect what to the soundcard? the microphone socket is connected to he soundcard i think.
[10:42] <garym> xubuntu?  ok. will look into it. thx
[10:42] <Ayabara> could the ati driver improve my video quality? anyone?
[10:42] <NoUse> clinea sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:42] <krieger> Jowi, n1 but performace sucks huh?
[10:42] <garym> also what about the newer Linksys wireless-B cards, with the newer (radon?) chipsets.
[10:42] <megaman123> how can i change permission to a folder with all its subfolders ?
[10:42] <ompaul> andy101, I think is not good enough, you have to be sure, there are sockets on the soundcard or motherboard if it is integrated
[10:42] <Flannel> garym: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:43] <garym> ah, thx!
[10:43] <Jowi> garym: no it does not suck that much. you need a light wm though, such as icewm, flux/openbox, xfce etc. and a lighter login manager like xdm
[10:43] <cparker> anyone...?
[10:43] <zanzaban> ompaul: would knoppix be a better bet for a complete newb?
[10:43] <ompaul> zanzaban, no
[10:43] <Jowi> krieger: ^^^
[10:43] <krieger> Jowi, thx 4 the answer... but flase nick xD
[10:43] <krieger> xD
[10:43] <Jowi> krieger: yeah, noticed that to late :)
[10:43] <IIIEars> pianoboy3333: There is some decent. (But not easy) Opensource Forensic live CDs out there. If you can't afford OnTrack. (Best choice) Helix a knoppix CD preconfigured.
[10:43] <DevZer0> hi, i download the x86 alternative (6.06) from umn.edu mirror and i am installing in text mode, i started getting filescurrupted errors, the md5 checksuck passes on the .iso file, what could be the cause ?
[10:43] <zanzaban> dsl will auto mount the HD?
[10:44] <Jowi> sorry garym :)
[10:44] <eyequeue> zanzaban, having used both, i install ubuntu for the complete newbie
[10:44] <ajax4> megaman123: chmod -r <permissions> <folder>
[10:44] <ompaul> zanzaban, as you start to install software on knoppix you loose your sanity in proportion to the scale of installs that take place
[10:44] <andy101> ompaul: works in windows, worked in breezy, so surely it must be connected to something?
[10:44] <krieger> Jowi, but i think slax or something will do the job better
[10:44] <pianoboy3333> IIIEars: ok, thaks
[10:44] <IIIEars> pianoboy3333: Have a pro do it.
[10:44] <calex> anyone know a c compiler ?
[10:44] <zanzaban> haha
[10:44] <ompaul> andy101, new information, so I suggest you look again in alsamixer for the mute button
[10:44] <Flannel> !tell calex about gcc
[10:44] <zanzaban> i just need something that will autodetect and mount an NTFS hd
[10:44] <Jowi> krieger: slackware based distros are really good for that type of hardware. I totally agree.
[10:44] <Flannel> zanzaban: ubuntu does that
[10:44] <eyequeue> calex, gdd ... sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:44] <krieger> Jowi, ;)
[10:44] <ajax4> megaman123: actually you have to capitalize the r. So its chmod -R <permissions> <folder>
[10:44] <zanzaban> without resorting to typing aracane stuff
[10:44] <pianoboy3333> IIIEars: that's my other thought... but that can be VERY expensive
[10:44] <eyequeue> calex, gcc rather
[10:44] <zanzaban> hmmmm
[10:45] <Arag|Laptop> hiya
[10:45] <cparker> nobody knows?
[10:45] <garym> I woulnd't put Xorg on a server, but I do have to use Xfce on my laptop, or did until Mandriva broke it.
[10:45] <garym> thanks for the tips.
[10:45] <megaman123> aiax4: thanks
[10:45] <[NP] Tangent> arag, go ahead and ask about your problem
[10:45] <ompaul> Arag|Laptop, if you want to talk non support we strongly suggest #ubuntu-offtopic cheers ;-)
[10:45] <eyequeue> megaman123, that will change all the files too, beware
[10:45] <IIIEars> pianoboy3333: Go to work buy your boss a cup of coffee and see how stressed he/she is about it. then have a pro do it.
[10:46] <Arag|Laptop> k but iam looking for a ubuntu amd32 version
[10:46] <cparker> I'll try again: If I go to Places -> Connect to Server... and connect to a Windows share, I get an icon on my Desktop. where is that shortcut actually stored? I don't see anything in /home/cparker/Desktop/
[10:46] <megaman123> eyequeue: thats what im looking for
[10:46] <pianoboy3333> IIIEars: if I were employed, this would be a good solution, I'll keep that in the back of my mind...
[10:46] <LjL> Arag|Laptop: amd *32* means you're simply looking for the standard 32-bit version.
[10:47] <Arag|Laptop> \yeah
[10:47] <eyequeue> megaman123, you want all the files executable?  the x bit on directories is different than the x bit on files
[10:47] <Arag|Laptop> i can only find the 64version
[10:47] <LjL> Arag|Laptop: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[10:47] <megaman123> eyequeue: no i want to delete them
[10:47] <Flannel> Arag|Laptop: the i386 version
[10:47] <krieger> Arag|Laptop, just dl the i368 version
[10:47] <eyequeue> megaman123, and if you -x, you'll find yoiu can't traverse the dirs
[10:47] <Exdaix> Arag|Laptop: there is no special release for amd32... jsut amd64.   i386 = amd32
[10:47] <Flannel> Arag|Laptop: then you install the k* kernel after install
[10:48] <megaman123> eyequeue: its my trash file..it was holding 100gigs that i cant access
[10:48] <Arag|Laptop> i have tried both versions
[10:48] <Arag|Laptop> but they doesnt boot
[10:48] <ajax4> eyequeue: Do you know of a switch that affects only directories?
[10:48] <megaman123> eyequeue: they are gone now :)
[10:48] <eyequeue> megaman123, ah
[10:48] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup audio support for dapper release?
[10:48] <Exdaix> Arag|Laptop: have you tried disabling ACPI
[10:48] <Arag|Laptop> no :o
[10:48] <Flannel> Arag|Laptop: did you burn the ISO? or write the file to a CD?
[10:48] <LjL> Arag|Laptop: the version you need is this one: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[10:48] <LiteHedded> can anyone help me get sound working?
[10:48] <eyequeue> ajax4, no, but if there was, more people would not have disasters :)
[10:48] <andy101> ompaul: both command line alsamixer, and the gui volume control confirm microphone is not muted
[10:48] <snooo> hey
[10:48] <LjL> Arag|Laptop: if it doesn't boot, it's not because of your processor i guess
[10:48] <Melissa|X> LiteHedded: I might be able to
[10:49] <Flannel> Arag|Laptop: did you set your BIOS to boot to CD before harddrive?
[10:49] <Arag|Laptop> yeah i burned the iso
[10:49] <tophfisher> Hey folks.. I have started a new Podcast, called The Linux Action Show! ( http://www.linuxactionshow.com ) and we want to focus on Ubuntu. But... I don't have a lot of ideas on what to cover... I could really use some input if any one has some ideas?
[10:49] <Arag|Laptop> yeah fanel
[10:49] <eyequeue> ajax4, it's probably involving some arcane use of find :/
[10:49] <snooo> can anyone point me towards a list of ubuntu links I can paste into my blog?
[10:49] <LiteHedded> Melissa|X: i was getting ati working and rebooted. now sound is broken
[10:49] <Flannel> tophfisher: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place to ask
[10:49] <Exdaix> tophfisher: hmm ill go look
[10:49] <ompaul> andy101, is there a *real power switch* on it? gotta check
[10:49] <tophfisher> Will do
[10:49] <LjL> Arag|Laptop: besides the ACPI suggestion, have you just tried... retrying? for me, it often takes a fair number of attemps to boot CDs, though it might well just be my CD reader
[10:49] <Flannel> snooo: wiki.ubuntu.com ;)
[10:49] <Arag|Laptop> (22:48:32) (Exdaix) Arag|Laptop: have you tried disabling ACPI
[10:49] <Arag|Laptop> how i set it
[10:49] <Stormx2> Note to self
[10:50] <Stormx2> Unmount partitions before trying to edit partition table
[10:50] <snooo> Flannel: have tried... cant find anything
[10:50] <steev> tophfisher: be nice to hear (maybe with some screencasts as well) how to make your own .deb's  - i'd like to learn because NM 0.6.3 has some bug fixes that i would really like, but im too afraid to bump to building it myself on Ubuntu
[10:50] <LjL> Arag|Laptop: what is the boot stage that you *can* reach, if any?
[10:50] <Exdaix> Arag|Laptop: I know its on the forums how to...  at boot of the CD you enter "acpi=none" or somethign of the sort
[10:50] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup audio support for dapper release?
[10:50] <tophfisher> steev: That would be cool
[10:50] <krieger> udo, which card?
[10:50] <tophfisher> I am playing with screen casts
[10:50] <andy101> ompaul: nope, now power switch on it
[10:50] <udo> realtec ac97
[10:50] <jughead> I'm tryin to install a gam that downloaded as a .run file
[10:51] <krieger> udo, um schould go flawlessly
[10:51] <Arag|Laptop> iam going to search on the forums
[10:51] <Melissa|X> LiteHedded: hmm, strange problem. is it all apps that are acting up, or is it just a select few? can totem or mplayer or gaim or etc work?
[10:51] <usama> hi
[10:51] <jughead> when I click on it it tries to open in gedit
[10:51] <Arag|Laptop> ty guys :)
[10:51] <LiteHedded> no sound in anything
[10:51] <jughead> how do I run a .run file?
[10:51] <LjL> jughead: run it from the console
[10:51] <jughead> I tried
[10:51] <krieger> udo, where is the prob exactly?
[10:51] <LjL> judah: chmod +x filename
[10:51] <LjL> jughead: i meant you not judah
[10:51] <udo> i dont have sound?
[10:51] <Melissa|X> have you tried playing around with multimedia system selector in the preferences?
[10:51] <ompaul> andy101, in a word strange
[10:51] <krieger> udo, nothing?
[10:51] <udo> yes
[10:52] <linuxboyfriend> Kyral_FreeBSD, ok i have installed php5, can you guide me what i have to do now?
[10:52] <udo> but system detect sound card
[10:52] <krieger> udo, um in your startline thing up there
[10:52] <krieger> udo, there is a little speaker
[10:52] <udo> yes
[10:52] <andy101> ompaul: anyway to switch to trying differant sound systems, there was a multimedia selector in breezy, but I can't find it in dapper
[10:52] <krieger> udo, double-click on it
[10:52] <jughead> LjL, it still says command not found
[10:53] <udo> ok
[10:53] <krieger> udo, and try to get the PCM and Master up
[10:53] <dave_rave> hello everyone
[10:53] <krieger> udo, and unmute
[10:53] <LjL> jughead: local files are run by prefixing "./" to them. so, type    ./filename
[10:53] <Stormx2> Error: No root file system. Daaamn
[10:53] <andy101> jughead: to run file type: ./file
[10:53] <udo> ok
[10:53] <jughead> ohh ok thanks
[10:53] <Overclocked_486> can anyone help me get pdksh to read /etc/profile?
[10:53] <krieger> udo, what kind of file do u try to play?
[10:54] <krieger> udo, is it a mp3?
[10:54] <dave_rave> anyone know of a driver for Creative webcam ultra live?
[10:54] <udo> i played a dvd
[10:54] <Ayabara> anyone got an opinion on wether ati's driver is better than the xorg-fglrx driver?
[10:54] <krieger> udo, got dvd support?
[10:54] <udo> yes but no sound :)
[10:54] <krieger> kay
[10:54] <linuxboyfriend>  i have upgraded from php4 to php5 (througn apt) now what should i do so that apache can detect php5?
[10:54] <eyequeue> Overclocked_486, ln -s /etc/profile whateverfilenamepdkshreads
[10:54] <krieger> hum... and unmuted everything? got master and pcm up?
[10:54] <Flannel> !tell linuxboyfriend about lamp
[10:55] <ProN00b> the new vncviewers scrollbars don't work
[10:55] <BrianG> i love lamp
[10:55] <jughead> Ayabara, the "ati" driver was locking up for my so I got the ATI drivers from the ATI site and it works
[10:55] <docta_v> how can i add an entry for Google Earth to my applications menu?
[10:55] <ruggy> from what distro did you all convert to ubuntu from?
[10:55] <Stormx2> Wow I am glad I have two CD ROM Drivers. I need to burn a copy of dapper, turns out I burned an older BETA.
[10:55] <Stormx2> Fedora, sorta
[10:55] <Stormx2> But not really
[10:55] <Stormx2> Mainly windows.
[10:55] <jughead> I never tried xorg-fglrx
[10:55] <Ayabara> jughead: ok. I'll try it out and hope my video quality improves. did you follow the wiki or the install notes on ati.com?
[10:56] <eyequeue> docta_v, alacarte
[10:56] <_Hiroshi_> Hey guys..um..Got a problem, and I need some help. :(
[10:56] <ajax4> docta_v: Go to Accessories > Alacarte menu editor...you can add apps there
[10:56] <docta_v> thanks
[10:56] <dallingham> Is there a known problem with the Live CD and the Nvidia GForce cards? The live cd comes up with a mess on the screen.
[10:56] <_Hiroshi_> I got an old G3, with about 64MB of ram.. and Im trying to load Ubuntu from the Alternate PowerPC CD..
[10:56] <chuck8> no drivers
[10:56] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup audio support for dapper release?
[10:57] <_Hiroshi_> Got it loaded.. and a white comes up with Apple info...
[10:57] <jughead> Ayabara, I follwed the wiki all the way
[10:57] <armedking> Jughead: Ati drivers have a major bug in it. Just to let you know.
[10:57] <_Hiroshi_> It wont load past that point..and I dont know what to do next..
[10:57] <Amaranth> _Hiroshi_: running a server?
[10:57] <chuck8> lol, apple?
[10:57] <jughead> armedking, what kind of bug?
[10:57] <jughead> I have not had any of the login or logout problems so far
[10:57] <Amaranth> _Hiroshi_: the default desktop uses 96MB RAM without even opening any programs
[10:57] <_Hiroshi_> No no, its got OS 8 on it.
[10:57] <armedking> Something to do with linking somewhere i worked 2 days on it to get rendering going.
[10:57] <Overclocked_486> eyequeue: The man pages state that pdksh reads and executes /etc/profile followed by $HOME/.profile at startup
[10:58] <_Hiroshi_> I think its got 96..Im not sure..
[10:58] <chuck8> :/  i'm clueless when it comes to apples
[10:58] <_Hiroshi_> Although Im more sure its got 64..
[10:58] <eyequeue> Overclocked_486, then my workaround shouldn't be necessary, i gather your experience disagrees with the man page?
[10:59] <jughead> armedking,  if my hardware was affected by the bug, would it have broken already?
[10:59] <_Hiroshi_> Amaranth) I know it does, but I want to load it up anyway..
[10:59] <mutil8> so what about flash in amd64
[10:59] <armedking> Fresh install no, Upgrade or when you get the ati driver then yes
[10:59] <Amaranth> _Hiroshi_: did you get it installed?
[10:59] <Amaranth> mutil8: not possible
[10:59] <linuxboyfriend> Flannel, i have installed php5 but dont know how to enable it for apache
[10:59] <Amaranth> mutil8: not even on windows 64-bit
[10:59] <_Hiroshi_> No I Have OS-8 on it..
[10:59] <eyequeue> Overclocked_486, add set FOO="bar" and export $FOO to the file, then echo $FOO after logging in?  some sort of indicator whether it sources the file or not
[11:00] <mutil8> man that's annoying
[11:00] <_Hiroshi_> I used the Alternate CD and it wont even load..
[11:00] <mutil8> my bank uses this stupid flash login
[11:00] <jughead> I did a fresh install, installed all of the updates, then installed the driver
[11:00] <mutil8> so i have to reboot if i need to check my bank account
[11:00] <Amaranth> linuxboyfriend: if you install libapache2-mod-php5 it sets up apache
[11:00] <Overclocked_486> eyequeue: I emulated the syntax for the bash startup. looked like " if [ "$KSH" ]  ... . /etc/kshrc ", and I know /etc/kshrc works if explicitly executed.
[11:00] <Amaranth> mutil8: or install the 32-bit ubuntu
[11:00] <eyequeue> Overclocked_486, obviously you'll want to use pdksh's syntax, which probably differs from bash (which is why to make them separate commands)
[11:00] <_Hiroshi_> It comes up with a white screen with a dos like prompt to it.. instead of it loading.
[11:00] <Amaranth> _Hiroshi_: hrm
[11:00] <eyequeue> Overclocked_486, ah
[11:00] <Overclocked_486> eyequeue: I meant I emulated the syntax in /etc/profile
[11:01] <eyequeue> Overclocked_486, understood
[11:01] <chongbook> can someone tell me what replaced base-config in dapper?
[11:01] <Amaranth> _Hiroshi_: did you get to a spot where you had to hit enter?
[11:01] <_Hiroshi_> yeah
[11:01] <_Hiroshi_> I got to the Ubuntu boot prompt
[11:01] <_Hiroshi_> I typed Install
[11:01] <Toge> hello. do you know to CLOSE (not reset) the X server?
[11:01] <_Hiroshi_> and it uh..prompted to a white screen
[11:01] <LjL> Toge: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:02] <Ayabara> !pastebin
[11:02] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:02] <linuxboyfriend> Amaranth, dont i have to use php5 as module in httpd.conf or somewhere else?
[11:02] <eclypse> hey all
[11:03] <kandinski> is there a graphic tool for installing fonts in ubuntu?
[11:03] <kandinski> if not, it is sorely needed
[11:03] <Overclocked_486> eyequeue: echo $FOO returned a blank line
[11:03] <eyequeue> Overclocked_486, sounds like it's not being sourced then
[11:03] <eclypse> kick ass! I finally got graphics accelleration working
[11:03] <eclypse> :D
[11:03] <eclypse> and I'm using KDE
[11:03] <eclypse> anyone know how to make it faster graphics wise?
[11:03] <Overclocked_486> eyequeue: yeah, which is pretty wierd.
[11:03] <chongbook> anyone know what replaced the base-config package in dapper? it seems to have been moved to universe and no longer installable
[11:03] <eyequeue> Overclocked_486, presuming the set and export syntax is the same in pdksh
[11:04] <Ayabara> could someone please take a look at the errors I get when unpacking the ati driver? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15667
[11:04] <_Hiroshi_> Alright, got an error message..
[11:04] <_Nick> what's the best ssh client for ubuntu?
[11:04] <chongbook> _Nick, ssh?
[11:04] <eyequeue> _Nick, sudo apt-get install openssh-client
[11:04] <TassaDarK> anybody knows why ubuntu don't use 5.1 speakers? (my ubuntu currently only uses front right&left)
[11:04] <_Hiroshi_> "Cant allocate initial device tree chunk"
[11:04] <Overclocked_486> eyequeue: I set and exported FOO in /etc/profile, which uses sh syntax, AFAIK
[11:04] <tr1gg3r> _Nick: iirc open ssh is installed by default, use that
[11:04] <_Hiroshi_> Thats what I get, its a white screen with that message.
[11:04] <TassaDarK> i have to touch something in any config?
[11:05] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup audio support for dapper release?
[11:05] <krieger> brb testing X with new Nvidia
[11:05] <pianoboy3333> I'm on the xubuntu desktop cd, how can I configure a printer?
[11:06] <jughead> pianoboy3333, there should be an option in the kmenu
[11:06] <ithiel> hello all
[11:06] <pianoboy3333> jughead: can you describe where in the menu?
[11:06] <ithiel> why can't I retrieve the EasyUbuntu script from Robotgeek's site?
[11:06] <] GoldenDragon> what if any are flaws or reasons why someone wouldnt want to use WINE?
[11:06] <tr1gg3r> pianoboy3333: if using cups u can go to http://localhost:631/
[11:06] <ithiel> can anyone direct me to a similar/better script, or another place to get it?
[11:06] <Some_Person> My cdrom wont automount when i stick it in the drive (i have to go to terminal and type "mount /dev/cdrom" or "mount /dev/hdc' to mount it)
[11:06] <calex> ok still tring to install vm ware tools form a tar i get it going but then get asked "what is the location of the directory of c header files that match your kernal? [/usr/src/linux/include] " i have no clue where to go here
[11:07] <Overclocked_486> eyequeue: typing . /etc/profile at the prompt works. It's definitely not being sourced.
[11:07] <jughead> I'm running gnome not KDE, I cannot remember the exact location pianoboy3333
[11:07] <pianoboy3333> I'm running xubuntu
[11:07] <eyequeue> Overclocked_486, weird
[11:07] <ithiel> anyone know where to get EasyUbuntu other than robotgeek's site or a similar/better script?
[11:07] <Overclocked_486> eyequeue: yeah, especially with the whole going contrary to the documentation part.
[11:07] <ompaul> andy101, as you may guess at this stage I have no idea
[11:07] <_Nick> tr1gg3r: I didn't find out that softwware
[11:07] <chongbook> ithiel, doesnt that script just install the stuff on the RestrictedFormats wiki page?
[11:08] <Flannel> linuxboyfriend: right, read that page ubotu sent you, the php5 section, you'll need to get the apache module
[11:08] <tr1gg3r> _Nick: ?
[11:08] <andy101> ompaul: thanks anyway
[11:08] <_Nick> iirc
[11:08] <eyequeue> Overclocked_486, if you find out the reality eventually, do file a bug to get the documentation squared away
[11:08] <Overclocked_486> Will do.
[11:08] <tr1gg3r> _Nick: iirc=if i recall correctly
[11:08] <Overclocked_486> eyequeue: ksh -l works fine.
[11:09] <ithiel> chongbook mostly, but it does a few other things, I'd like very much to use that script, it could save me a huge amount of time
[11:09] <eclypse> anyone know any effecient KDE optimization tricks?
[11:09] <eclypse> speeding it up graphics wise.
[11:09] <Flannel> eclypse: might try #kubuntu
[11:09] <chongbook> anyone know how to bootstrap ubuntu onto an nfsroot?
[11:09] <_Hiroshi_> Ah ok, its an ignored bug that was shipped with dapper..more namely the 2.6.15 kernel
[11:09] <eclypse> well
[11:09] <eclypse> technically I'm on Ubuntu
[11:09] <eclypse> running KDE
[11:09] <h4v0k> i need help unzipping a file and cant remember the modifiers:-(
[11:09] <eclypse> lol
[11:09] <_Hiroshi_> so yeah.
[11:09] <spikeb> eclypse: actually you used to be able to change optimisation right within a kde dialogue
[11:09] <_Hiroshi_> Nice one guys... -tries to go fix-
[11:09] <eclypse> how so?
[11:09] <eyequeue> h4v0k, man unzip
[11:09] <Flannel> eclypse: right, but #kubuntu is a place to ask with people who actually USE KDE.
[11:10] <spikeb> the first run wizard used to do it, im not sure where to find it
[11:10] <h4v0k> is it normally -xvfl or something like that
[11:10] <Some_Person> My cdrom wont automount when i stick it in the drive (i have to go to terminal and type "mount /dev/cdrom" or "mount /dev/hdc' to mount it)
[11:10] <LjL> eclypse: kubuntu *is* Ubuntu with KDE ;)
[11:10] <eclypse> lol
[11:10] <calex> ok still tring to install vm ware tools form a tar i get it going but then get asked "what is the location of the directory of c header files that match your kernal? [/usr/src/linux/include] " i have no clue where to go here
[11:10] <eclypse> yeah I know
[11:10] <eclypse> this channel is much more active though.
[11:10] <Agrajag> h4v0k: if it's a zip file, it's just unzip. if it's a tar.gz, tar xzf. if it's a tar.bz2, tar xjf.
[11:10] <eclypse> hence 900 people in here, 200 in kubuntu
[11:10] <tr1gg3r> Some_Person: use ivman
[11:10] <Flannel> eclypse: right, but this channel knows gnome, kubuntu people know KDE
[11:10] <soundray> Some_Person: that behavior is configured via System-Preferences-Removable Drives and Media
[11:11] <Agrajag> calex: install the headers that match your kernel version
[11:11] <tr1gg3r> calex: if u have the linux-headers for ur kernel installed that should be right
[11:11] <Ayabara> how can I go back from xorg-driver-fglrx to the default ubuntu drivers?
[11:11] <theine> calex: what kernel are you running? (output of "uname -r")
[11:11] <apokryphos> it's not just like that; almost every user in #kubuntu is in here too
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> calex: install build-essential and linux-headers
[11:11] <Agrajag> calex: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:11] <soundray> eclypse: you sound like the guy who looked for his key where there was light, not where he lost it.
[11:11] <h4v0k> Agrajag: i did unzip blahblah.zip and it returned this error to me
[11:11] <eclypse> lol
[11:11] <eclypse> too true.
[11:11] <h4v0k>  unzip el_120_linux_full.zip
[11:11] <h4v0k> Archive:  el_120_linux_full.zip
[11:11] <h4v0k>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[11:11] <h4v0k>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[11:11] <h4v0k>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[11:11] <h4v0k>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[11:11] <h4v0k> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of el_120_linux_full.zip or
[11:11] <h4v0k>         el_120_linux_full.zip.zip, and cannot find el_120_linux_full.zip.ZIP, period.
[11:12] <eclypse> how do I cahnge my font color?
[11:12] <eyequeue> !pastebin
[11:12] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:12] <eclypse> do you have to be op or something?
[11:12] <Some_Person> soundray: its already set to automount
[11:12] <eclypse> also, I forget, how do you disable touch pad clicking again? I forgot which file it was..
[11:12] <h4v0k> ubotu:sorry bout that one
[11:12] <ubotu> h4v0k: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:13] <linuxboyfriend> Kyral_FreeBSD,  apache2 is automatically configured for php5, thanks for your help
[11:13] <h4v0k> ubotu:ok ty
[11:13] <soundray> Some_Person: is it the same thing with every CD?
[11:13] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h4v0k
[11:13] <Kyral_FreeBSD> np
[11:13] <Some_Person> soundray: yep
[11:13] <_Hiroshi_> Can anyone direct me to a Breezy powerPC installer?
[11:13] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup audio support for dapper release?
[11:13] <h4v0k> ubotu:do i need to do as sudo?
[11:13] <eugman> How do I uninstall a jnlp file?
[11:13] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h4v0k
[11:13] <_Hiroshi_> Can anyone direct me to a Breezy powerPC installer?
[11:14] <soundray> Some_Person: try commenting out the line in /etc/fstab that contains /dev/cdrom
[11:14] <DPackrat> Can someone help me with the Livecd for Ubuntu? GDM doesn't load for me using an X700 card, and restarting GDM after I reconfigure it doesn't work either
[11:14] <Agrajag> h4v0k: the bot doesn't speak english.
[11:14] <JackRazz> Hey everyone, If I have an AMD Athlon 64, which version of ubuntu is better:  32bit or 64bit???
[11:14] <sparkleytone> _Hiroshi_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/release/
[11:14] <_Hiroshi_> Because Dapper is unusable in some macs due to a retarded bug that was purposly ignored..
[11:14] <Bilange> _Hiroshi_:  Mirror located at Montreal, QC Canada -> http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/ubuntu/iso/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso
[11:14] <JackRazz> is all the software available for 64bit
[11:14] <eclypse> anyone know hwat all these errors are when I load Kate to edit something in terminal?
[11:14] <_Hiroshi_> Thanks Sparkley
[11:14] <Some_Person> soundray: ok
[11:14] <h4v0k> Agrajag:lmao oops i was chatting to the bot
[11:14] <sparkleytone> no
[11:14] <sparkleytone> np*
[11:14] <eclypse> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:14] <eclypse>   Major opcode:  148
[11:14] <eclypse>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:14] <eclypse>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:14] <eclypse> Failed to open device
[11:14] <eclypse> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:14] <eclypse>   Major opcode:  148
[11:14] <Lpadmin> !Paste
[11:14] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:15] <h4v0k> :D
[11:15] <krazykit> JackRazz: much of it is.  a few things still don't play nice with 64 bit though.  flash comes to mind.
[11:15] <_Hiroshi_> Thanks Bilange, that one will work.
[11:15] <soundray> JackRazz: it depends on how you plan to use it. For general desktop use, you should stick with i386
[11:15] <sparkleytone> _Hiroshi_: what's this about dapper being unusable on macs?   that sounds crappy...have a link?
[11:15] <Some_Person> soundray: /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 is uncommented
[11:15] <JackRazz> thanks everyone,  i'll stick to the 32 bit for now
[11:15] <soundray> JackRazz: for memory i/o intensive applications, amd64 can be advantageous
[11:15] <soundray> Some_Person: I meant disable it.
[11:15] <JackRazz> just want it for desktop and learning linux
[11:15] <Some_Person> oh
[11:16] <sparkleytone> _Hiroshi_: i run ubuntu server 5.10 on a colocated mac mini, so that interests me...
[11:16] <JackRazz> been using the vmware and want to progress to a more permanent install
[11:16] <Ayabara> when I try to remove xorg-driver-fglrx I get "dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/lib/libGL.so.1' with
[11:16] <Ayabara>   different file `/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa', not allowed". heeelp
[11:16] <JackRazz> bye all
[11:16] <Bilange> ubotu:  tell eclypse about pastebin
[11:17] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup audio support for dapper release?
[11:17] <eugman> How do I uninstall a jnlp file?
[11:17] <eclypse> whats this now?
[11:17] <eclypse> pastebin?
[11:17] <calex> agrajag : sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` worked a treat ill buy u a beer if ur ever in ireland
[11:17] <eclypse> I had to reconnect lol
[11:18] <Agrajag> excellent
[11:18] <eyequeue> eclypse, see /topic
[11:19] <soundray> Ayabara: you can force the uninstall by doing 'dpkg --force-overwrite-diverted -r xorg-driver-fglrx'
[11:19] <gerhard> why is setting skype so difficult in ubuntu ??
[11:19] <soundray> Ayabara: with a sudo probably
[11:19] <Ayabara> soundray: thanks a lot!!
[11:20] <soundray> gerhard: it's very easy with EasyUbuntu
[11:20] <eyequeue> gerhard, it's nonfree, unlike ekiga
[11:20] <krieger> gerhard, it isnt
[11:20] <krieger> gerhard, just add the repos of skype to ur source.list and do a apt-get update and then apt-get install skype
[11:20] <Dreamglider> how can i uninstall OSS and go back to ALSA ?
[11:21] <Flannel> !tell gerhard about skype
[11:21] <EmxBA> how can i install GDM theme
[11:21] <EmxBA> oh, hi anyone :D
[11:21] <EmxBA> !gdm theme
[11:21] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, EmxBA
[11:21] <Ayabara> soundray: I still get the same error, maybe I need to go back to the default drivers to uninstall or something?
[11:21] <theine> Dreamglider: Are you sure you ever had OSS installed? It's usually emulated by ALSA
[11:21] <_aaron> hi, I can't get my wifi to work.. I've done a bit of searching and it's just kinda frustrating because ndiswrapper and madwifi are not in adept
[11:21] <Coldfyre> EmxBA:  looking for gdm theme?
[11:21] <EmxBA> anyone?
[11:22] <EmxBA> no
[11:22] <heyHowsITgoin> i have the JACK sound server set up and am running oss apps through oss2jack but like after 30 seconds oss2jack and JACK just quit
[11:22] <EmxBA> i got it
[11:22] <EmxBA> just want to install it
[11:22] <Dreamglider> theine, i downloaded oss3994a-linux-x86-v26.tar and installed it last night, and after that i lost all sound
[11:22] <EmxBA> how should i do that?
[11:22] <boz> -aaron a broadcom right??
[11:22] <soundray> Ayabara: have a look at the other forcing options: dpkg --force-help
[11:22] <_aaron> do you guys have any *good* links to howto wifi in kubuntu?
[11:22] <krieger> heyHowsITgoin, for q3?
[11:22] <Coldfyre> open your config window for gdm
[11:22] <Coldfyre> should be a button to install
[11:22] <rillian> hi. can anyone sketch for me how to do a manual install of ubuntu? the install cds don't work on my machine. I've got it booting gentoo and would like to do a cross-install
[11:22] <heyHowsITgoin> krieger: im talking on skype
[11:22] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup audio support for dapper release?
[11:22] <EmxBA> where is that
[11:22] <krieger> heyHowsITgoin, umm sec
[11:22] <heyHowsITgoin> krieger: and  am running it through oss2jack and JACK but after like 30 seconds it just dies
[11:23] <EmxBA> Login Photo
[11:23] <EmxBA> ok
[11:23] <Flannel> rillian: you can do a netinstall
[11:23] <EmxBA> no
[11:23] <krieger> heyHowsITgoin, ill try to find a solution sec
[11:23] <itay> Hi everyone, I am really Bored, Sorry for wasting a line in thic IRC
[11:23] <heyHowsITgoin> krieger: k
[11:23] <EmxBA> lologin windows
[11:23] <yoshiznit123> rillian: you would probalby use debootstrap
[11:23] <itay> *this
[11:23] <EmxBA> thatis gdm
[11:23] <krazykit> rillian: if you read up on debootstrap, it's not bad to set up
[11:23] <Coldfyre> EmxBA:  system, login screen
[11:23] <eugman> Anyone now how to uninstall a jnlp file?
[11:23] <Coldfyre> click the themed greeter tab
[11:23] <EmxBA> Coldfyre: solved
[11:23] <EmxBA> tnx
[11:23] <krieger> heyHowsITgoin, try this:
[11:23] <EmxBA> :-)
[11:24] <theine> Dreamglider: Sorry, but I really don't know how to help you with this
[11:24] <krieger> heyHowsITgoin, echo "skype 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[11:24] <soundray> itay: compile an optimized kernel for your machine
[11:24] <rillian> Flannel: can you explain a little more?
[11:24] <Dreamglider> theine, ok thanks anyways mate
[11:24] <krieger> heyHowsITgoin, cho "skype 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss
[11:24] <krieger> heyHowsITgoin, as root or with sudo
[11:24] <itay> That sounds nice.... But I already did it
[11:24] <soundray> itay: optimize it more ;)
[11:24] <itay> OK I'll give it a try
[11:25] <krieger> heyHowsITgoin, and then dont use the Jack crap
[11:25] <Flannel> rillian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[11:25] <heyHowsITgoin> ok
[11:25] <soundray> itay: hexedit /boot/vmlinuz
[11:25] <}btorch{> has anyone here installed ubuntu on a xen domU ?
[11:25] <heyHowsITgoin> krieger: thanks
[11:25] <krieger> heyHowsITgoin, np
[11:25] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I installed Debian DomU on a Ubuntu Dom0 :P
[11:25] <itay> I am not bored as much bored!
[11:25] <Kyral_FreeBSD> seriously you can transplant instructions for Debian into Ubuntu lol
[11:26] <krieger> yay my nvidia seems to work :)
[11:26] <krieger> no more crashes
[11:26] <Dreamglider> i downloaded oss3994a-linux-x86-v26.tar and installed it last night, and after that i lost all sound. how can i switch back to using ALSA ? i run dapper drake
[11:26] <itay> It's just that my linux works perfect and I have nothing to install that I really need
[11:26] <krieger> Dreamglider, remove the package and reinstall alsa
[11:27] <rillian> Flannel: so the idea is that I can pass a different kernel?
[11:27] <krieger> itay, install something u dont need
[11:27] <Dreamglider> krieger, i dont know how :/
[11:27] <rillian> Flannel: is there no way to invoke the cd installer from a running linux system?
[11:27] <itay> krieger: do you know something interesting?
[11:27] <krieger> Dreamglider, okay let me do a little research brb
[11:27] <Flannel> rillian: um, there is, I think.
[11:28] <krieger> itay, yakuake?
[11:28] <itay> krieger: That is to say -
[11:28] <krieger> Dreamglider, did u compile it?!
[11:29] <rillian> cyphase: heh
[11:29] <Flannel> rillian: check this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation, the Knoppix one might be of assistance
[11:29] <TassaDarK> anybody knows why ubuntu don't use 5.1 speakers? (my ubuntu currently only uses front right&left)
[11:29] <croesus> I've got a client who we just installed a dual boot with ubuntu, after install we went through and picked up software using the gui utility, among the packages is gnucash...can anybody tell me where in the menuing system it would have made a link to it?  He can run it from cli but would like to be able to open it with a mouse click...any help appreciated...I don't have it running locally....
[11:29] <nik> .
[11:29] <HellDragon> .
[11:29] <TassaDarK> neither dolby in dvd movies
[11:29] <HellDragon> dot dot com
[11:29] <cyphase> TassaDarK, it depends on the program
[11:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> croesus: tell him to install and use Alacarte
[11:29] <eyequeue> croesus, see applications > alacarte
[11:29] <cyphase> TassaDarK: Totem has an option to change the sound
[11:29] <whyami> how would I reformat an xD card in a card reader connected via USB? I can see the files on it and I would like to reformat with fat16...
[11:30] <Dreamglider> krieger, i did chmod +x oss-install && ./oss-install
[11:30] <cyphase> TassaDarK: just look in the preferences
[11:30] <Kyral_FreeBSD> FAT16....why
[11:30] <krieger> Dreamglider, just try to apt-get install alsa-tools
[11:30] <soundray> croesus: I would guess that it goes to Applications-Office
[11:30] <rillian> Flannel: just what I was looking for, thanks!!
[11:30] <whyami> Kyral_FreeBSD: because that is what the camera is expecting, I assume....The card is for a camera...
[11:30] <krieger> Dreamglider, maybe that will relaunch the alsa things
[11:30] <TassaDarK> cyphase yes
[11:30] <croesus> Kyral_FreeBSD, eyequeue ,soundray thnaks
[11:30] <TassaDarK> i looked that
[11:31] <cyphase> hmm
[11:31] <cafuego> whyami: You can use the partiino editor or use 'mkfs -t vfat' on the commandline.
[11:31] <cyphase> i don't know then
[11:31] <cyphase> sorry :(
[11:31] <krieger> Dreamglider, next time use apt to install ur programms, with that u can use dpkg -r to remove ur progs
[11:31] <TassaDarK> is in 5.1 but audio only sounds in 2 of the 4 speakers
[11:31] <whyami> cafuego: but don't I need to know the mount point? That's what i can't figure out....
[11:31] <cafuego> whyami: 'df' in a terminal.
[11:31] <TassaDarK> same for xmms
[11:31] <cafuego> whyami: You need the device node btw, not the mount point.
[11:32] <whyami> cafuego: thanks! I'm trying now....
[11:32] <cafuego> whyami: It'll be sda or sdb probably.
[11:32] <krieger> Dreamglider, a lot easyier ... and if u dont find any packages try apt-get.org (or something) its a search engine fpr packages, just add it to ur sources and apt-get it ;)
[11:32] <eamo> hi, trying to upgrade to dapper from breezy- error message  - "could not calculate the upgrade - unknown error", any idea what might be the problem?
[11:32] <kbrooks> eamo: that's weird.
[11:33] <Dreamglider> krieger, allright, now after installing alsa should i reboot or is there more to it ?
[11:33] <cafuego> eamo: Last I checked there was a thunderbird/enigmal package version problem.
[11:33] <TassaDarK> crimsun_ do u have time to help me with (another) sound problem please?
[11:33] <krieger> Dreamglider, just try a reboot and then fire up alsa-mixer, c if he got anything for you ;)
[11:33] <Dreamglider> krieger, ok ok thanks
[11:33] <TassaDarK> your are the pro here in that matter
[11:33] <eamo> cafuego, I use thunderbird ok
[11:34] <krieger> Dreamglider, np
[11:34] <whyami> cafuego: if was sdc1. First it told me that /dev/sdc1 contained a mounted file system. I umounted /media/usbdisk. Now mkfs says "unable to open /dev/sdc1"
[11:34] <crimsun_> TassaDarK: not at the moment, assist queue is full
[11:34] <xavier_> great
[11:34] <nooby_god> what's better linux-wlan-ng or ndiswrapper?
[11:34] <cafuego> whyami: You need to put 'sudo' in front.
[11:34] <TassaDarK> ok, thanks anyway :-)
[11:34] <h3sp4wn> nooby_god: Avoid ndiswrapper if you can
[11:34] <krieger> TassaDarK, maybe i can help u?
[11:34] <TassaDarK> oh yes, please
[11:34] <xavier_> you are taking together or
[11:35] <whyami> cafuego: I should have known that. Thanks. That appears to have worked...
[11:35] <TassaDarK> is about my 5.1 speakers
[11:35] <_Mr_Denix_> Hi . I have installed gaim 2.0 beta 3 (deb package) using sudo dpkg -i filename and it still has gaim 1.5 in   application - internet - gaim ... could anyone help me pls !? thank you
[11:35] <TassaDarK> none applications uses it
[11:35] <TassaDarK> ubuntu only uses front right&left
[11:35] <graveson> i create a new ookmark toolbar folder in firefox ,but it never appears ,any reason why ?
[11:35] <nooby_god> h3sp4wn is there a paticular reason?
[11:35] <cafuego> oooOOOOOK!
[11:35] <danfg> where is wine's fake c drive?
[11:35] <krieger> TassaDarK, okay, i never did that, but i google a bit, brb
[11:35] <chongbook> dAndy, iirc its in ~/.wine
[11:35] <nooby_god> linux-wlan-ng uses a lot of non standard tools and ndiswrapper seams easy
[11:35] <cafuego> danfg: in ~/.win I believe.
[11:36] <visik7> anyone was able to recomile iptables 1.3.3-2 from sid to dapper ?
[11:36] <krieger> ah
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> nooby_god: You are better off with native drivers if you can what card are you using ?
[11:36] <krieger> TassaDarK,
[11:37] <krieger> TassaDarK, go in a console and try a "sudo alsamixer"
[11:37] <danfg> cafuego, chongbook: there's nothing in there, how do i tell wine to make one? preferably telling it where to put it?
[11:37] <krieger> TassaDarK, unmute ur speakers and then pump up the volume, c what it does
[11:37] <nooby_god> h3sp4wn Linksys WUSB11 V3, it's a PRISM2 USB device
[11:38] <TassaDarK> ic
[11:38] <TassaDarK> testing...
[11:38] <krieger> yepp go ahead
[11:38] <danfg> i've got no -/.wine or -/.win, just -/.wapi. how do i tell wine to make a fake c drive? preferably telling it where it should go
[11:39] <chongbook> danfg, isnt there a program called winesetup?
[11:39] <chongbook> i havent used wine in years but iirc you use that
[11:39] <mjr> winesetup is obsolete
[11:40] <nooby_god> so what's better for me then? ndiswrapper or linux-wlan-ng
[11:40] <krieger> danfg, apt-get install winesetuptk
[11:40] <chongbook> like i said havent used it in years ;)
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> nooby_god: Is it not already detected ?
[11:40] <nooby_god> I believe wine uses winecfg now
[11:40] <nooby_god> h3sp4wn I don't know really
[11:40] <krieger> danfg, and fire up wine again, should help ya
[11:40] <nooby_god> I'll try again
[11:41] <_Mr_Denix_> i have downloaded gaim-bonjour-2.0.0-0.beta3.fc4.i386.rpm converted it with alien, installed it using sudo dpkg -i filename and it still starts gaim 1.5 . what should i do ? thanks
[11:42] <Gioblecch> hi. to everyone. i'm italian boy. i want to try linux word. which linux suggest you? i've downloaded Linspire and xandros but my friend say that they are bad.. therefore he says: ubuntu. your opinion? thanks
[11:42] <krieger> _Mr_Denix_, stupid but... tried to start gaim2 ?
[11:42] <jatilq> hello
[11:42] <Gioblecch> hi. to everyone. i'm italian boy. i want to try linux word. which linux suggest you? i've downloaded Linspire and xandros but my friend say that they are bad.. thean he says: ubuntu. your opinion? thanks
[11:42] <krieger> Gioblecch, u are in a ubuntu chan, what du u expect we say????
[11:42] <Gioblecch> ehm..
[11:42] <jatilq> I'm hoping someone can help me
[11:42] <jatilq> my laptop is running at 149 F
[11:43] <jatilq> the fan is not shutting on at all
[11:43] <Gioblecch> bye
[11:43] <_Mr_Denix_> krieger : lol     alt + f2 : gaim2 => cannot display location 'file://gaim2'
[11:43] <jatilq> is there a way to change that?
[11:43] <krieger> _Mr_Denix_, lol
[11:43] <krieger> _Mr_Denix_, start a console and type it in there
[11:43] <jatilq> in windows I couldnt get the fan to shutup now its not on at all
[11:44] <jatilq> I have ubuntu setup the way I want, would suck to have to format
[11:44] <krieger> jatilq, doenst ur bios regulate it?
[11:44] <h4v0k> jatilq:ahh perfect lol
[11:44] <TassaDarK> krazykit that don't solve nothing
[11:44] <jatilq> my bios has a perfomance setting
[11:44] <krieger> TassaDarK, strange
[11:44] <jatilq> but its not turning on
[11:44] <_Mr_Denix_> krieger : if type gaim2 => bash: gaim2: command not found
[11:44] <_Mr_Denix_>   if type gaim 2 starts gaim 1.5 (normal gaim on ubuntu)
[11:44] <krieger> jatilq, i dont think thats ubuntus fault
[11:44] <TassaDarK> the problem is audio sounds only in front right&left speakers
[11:45] <jatilq> perfomance= running all the time quiet= does not shut on as much
[11:45] <krieger> _Mr_Denix_, hehe i said it is a stupid idea^^
[11:45] <TassaDarK> central and behind don't sound
[11:45] <jatilq> dsmeg says the fan module is not loaded
[11:45] <TassaDarK> even in dolby digital dvd movies
[11:45] <Dreamglider> krieger, no luck, i still have a "stop sign" on the speaker, if i try to open it i get: Error. No volume control GStreamer plugin and/or devices found"
[11:45] <_Mr_Denix_> krieger : lol ! has it got anything to do with the fact that it's for FC4 ?
[11:45] <jatilq> /etc/rc.d/rc.hotplug no file or directory
[11:46] <_Mr_Denix_> krieger : gaim-bonjour-2.0.0-0.beta3.fc4.i386
[11:46] <krazykit> TassaDarK: huh?
[11:46] <danfg> krieger: thanks :)
[11:46] <TassaDarK> my soundcard is a Extigy, a usb card, can be a incompatibility 'cause that?
[11:46] <krieger> _Mr_Denix_, dont think so... should work but ur system didnt recognize the new version so something got wrong i guess
[11:46] <jatilq> fan    4836  0
[11:46] <TassaDarK> krazykit sorry, it wasnt u xD
[11:46] <jatilq> lsmod shows that
[11:46] <krazykit> oh, wrong tab completion
[11:46] <krieger> danfg, np
[11:46] <TassaDarK> yes, sorry :-/
[11:46] <|lostbyte|> why do we have so little fonts for konsole ?
[11:47] <_Mr_Denix_> krieger thanks for trying :) keep looking around !hope i won't damage anything :))
[11:47] <blanky> how do you uncompress bz2 files?
[11:47] <blanky> .tar.bz2 specifically
[11:47] <jatilq> is there a way to load the fan module?
[11:47] <jatilq> or load hotplug on startup?
[11:47] <NoUse> !tell jatilq about tar
[11:47] <blanky> LOL
[11:47] <krieger> _Mr_Denix_, maybe i get a deb package for it, ask in a while, maybe i can send it to you
[11:47] <h4v0k> ok plz help i did sudo unzip -xfl el_120_linux_full and it then listed all the files in the zip file but didnt unzip it why not?
[11:47] <spacey> blanky: tar jxvf bla.tar.bz2
[11:47] <blanky> thanks Spaceraver
[11:47] <blanky> *spacey
[11:47] <blanky> heh
[11:47] <spacey> blanky: or just use the gnome thingy
[11:47] <jatilq> !tell NoUse
[11:48] <croesus> exit
[11:48] <NoUse> jatilq ?
[11:48] <bleaked_> so on my friend's laptop, he has his onboard sound, and a usb audigy Zs.  both work fine..  suddenly now when he's playing music.. it will play one song from the laptop speakers, then the next song on the usb-connected soundcard..  randomly by song..
[11:48] <_Mr_Denix_> krieger i would appreciate it ! thank you ! i will ask in about 1 hour :)
[11:48] <krieger> _Mr_Denix_, nooo tomorow ^^ i have to go to sleep in a few mins, but wait... ill search
[11:48] <dallingham> I'm trying to install from the Live CD. As soon as the X server starts up, I start getting pink and white stripes on the screen, and then the screen becomes a garbled mess. I have an Nvidia GeForce MX 440 card. Is there a way to get around this problem?
[11:48] <_Mr_Denix_> krieger lol ! thank you :))
[11:49] <seres> can anyone help me half my desktop is out of my monitor and i dont know how it got like that
[11:49] <_Mr_Denix_> seres try adjusting it from the monitor controls ( the buttons on the monitor)
[11:49] <|lostbyte|> Google earth for linux os out :)
[11:49] <|lostbyte|> Beta state..
[11:49] <mikej> Do I have the option of compiling certain packages from source?
[11:49] <jatilq> anyone have an ideal about the fan module or if hotplug would help?
[11:49] <krieger> mikej, sure
[11:50] <bleaked_> |lostbyte|: yea like 3 days ago
[11:50] <jatilq> 149 just seems a bit hot for the cpu
[11:50] <h4v0k> seres:try to move the side that is on the monitor to the other side aka minimize it and then grab it by the top bar and slide it over
[11:50] <jesus_> duro de peinar
[11:50] <cafuego> 149F I presume?
[11:50] <jatilq> yes
[11:50] <jesus_> ahora si estoy frito
[11:50] <|lostbyte|> bleaked_, So how is it ?
[11:50] <cafuego> Nah
[11:50] <cafuego> !es
[11:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:50] <jesus_> anadi
[11:50] <mikej> krieger, I mean with package management and such, the Synaptic give me that option?
[11:50] <|lostbyte|> Is it ubuntu friendly ?
[11:50] <krieger> _Mr_Denix_, no package out yet
[11:51] <jesus_> e17 con el archivo que me decia
[11:51] <jesus_> pero no monta
[11:51] <jatilq> so I should not sweat the fan not turning on?
[11:51] <seres> mr denix i tryed that and i cant move it over enough
[11:51] <krieger> mikej, nope compiling is handmade ;)
[11:51] <h4v0k> jatilq:do you know the model of your fan
[11:51] <_Mr_Denix_> krieger don't try to much ! if not tonight tomorrow ! no worries ! you can go to sleep ! thank  you for your help :)
[11:51] <jatilq> its a toshiba satellite l25
[11:51] <mikej> krieger I'll stick with binary packages then, I'm so used to Gentoo
[11:51] <jatilq> laptop
[11:51] <lilie> bonsoir
[11:52] <krieger> mikej, jepp i was on gentoo too
[11:52] <h4v0k> jatilq :: maybe if you use modprobe to load it in there it will kick on if you have the correct drivers for it
[11:52] <jesus_> no monta nin gun entorno x
[11:52] <jatilq> modprobe fan?
[11:52] <jesus_> solo elque tenia
[11:52] <jesus_> xubuntu
[11:52] <krieger> mikej, you can compile by hand everything else is bin... the only distros with source are gentoo and LFS... everything else is bin dude
[11:52] <jesus_> pero se queda y no abre nada
[11:52] <h4v0k> jatilq:maybe
[11:53] <jesus_> solo me abrio esto
[11:53] <Overclocked_486> Does anyone know where I can find a given application's source code?
[11:53] <h4v0k> jesus:dude habla engles por favor
[11:53] <tiagoboldt> jesus_: english please
[11:53] <tiagoboldt> nada de espanol
[11:53] <tiagoboldt> :P
[11:53] <jatilq> i typed sudo modprobe fan
[11:53] <Overclocked_486> Is it generally included in the package?
[11:53] <jatilq> did not kick back any erros
[11:53] <jatilq> errors
[11:53] <h4v0k> jatilq:and what did it give you
[11:53] <jatilq> but the fan is still off
[11:53] <krieger> kay ppz
[11:53] <krieger> bye bye
[11:53] <kasemodz> hi i need some help with setting up a default gateway device on ubuntu
[11:54] <kasemodz> i have two nics and each go to a different router
[11:54] <h4v0k> jatilq:ok now do lsmod and see if its loaded in the modules
[11:54] <kasemodz> when i enable one router it automaticall defaults into that nics
[11:54] <krieger> kasemodz, use iptables
[11:54] <kasemodz> nic
[11:54] <krieger> kasemodz, use arnolds iptables script for that, that will help u, try to google it out ;)
[11:54] <kasemodz> uhmm krieger could u explain in detail
[11:54] <Ignite> hey guys i have that cool thing (not xgl the other one.. keep forgetting the name) along with compiz, the gnome panel and background go white when its running and the same happens with xchat (just a window border with a white area), so i presumed the bug was application dependent, thus i installed xfce4, anyone know how i can use compiz with xfce4? thanks
[11:54] <jatilq> h4v0k: still not loaded
[11:54] <kasemodz> ok thanks
[11:55] <krieger> kasemodz, iptables is a firewall and a routing software
[11:55] <h4v0k> hmmm
[11:55] <h4v0k> dunno
[11:55] <krieger> kasemodz, that has the opinion to act as a gateway
[11:55] <acke_> hey guys
[11:55] <krieger> kasemodz, arnolds firewall script does generate the rules for u (u`ll get what rules etc are in google)
[11:55] <krieger> okay
[11:55] <krieger> now its time
[11:55] <krieger> bye
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> krieger: Do you know alot about iptables ?
[11:56] <acke_> would you know of any good sound manipulating applications? have an interview on minidisc. I need to record and manipulate the interview
[11:56] <kasemodz> well i dont think kriger understood my question right
[11:56] <kasemodz> i basically dont want my computer to be a default gateway device
[11:56] <kasemodz> i want it to use only one nic as default gateway device
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> krieger: i.e the use of ipt_CONNMARK and ipt_layer7 (for prioritising traffic)
[11:57] <h3sp4wn> krieger: And the mangle table
[11:57] <kasemodz> and the problem is that is when i enable another nic it automitatically uses that nica nd i dont want it to do that
[11:57] <_Mr_Denix_> h3sp4wn    * krieger has quit ("Verlassend"
[11:58] <|lostbyte|> COuld anyone give me a one liner to set iptables to do masq ?
[11:58] <acke_> would you know of any good sound manipulating applications? have an interview on minidisc. I need to record and manipulate the interview?
[11:58] <Matthewv> acke_, audacity?
[11:58] <kasemodz> umm acke use audacity
[11:58] <acke_> audacity
[11:58] <acke_> matthewv im gonna check it out
[11:58] <cypenguin> hi
[11:58] <kasemodz> but can anyone help out with this gateway default device
[11:59] <h3sp4wn> Mr_Denix: /sudo sysctl net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 && sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ath0 -j MASQUERADE
[11:59] <graveson> acke:audacity is quite good
[11:59] <cypenguin> i need help to configure swap on lvm... anyone?
[11:59] <h3sp4wn> Mr_Denix: sudo sysctl net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 && /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ath0 -j MASQUERADE (sorry set ath0 to be your outgoing interface)
[11:59] <tescoil> Upgraded to 6.06.  Gimp now has no print facilities.  This rates pretty intolerable.
[12:00] <_Mr_Denix_> h3sp4wn ! thank you but I have no ideea what that is