=== LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxG5 [n=lnxG5@64.213.227.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxG5 [n=lnxG5@64.213.227.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxKDE [n=lnxG5@64.213.227.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === linuxmonkey [n=linuxmon@unaffiliated/LinuxMonkey] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] Howdy [02:15] howdy bddebian [02:15] Heya nixternal [02:19] a friend brought over his laptop saying it was slow..win2k is hosed, but i think his drive is hosed...win2k took 1 hour to format 7% of 20gb drive [02:19] we shall see if kubuntu install does better [02:21] installing the base system w/o a problem [02:23] nixternal: winblows [02:24] Hence why it has like 99% of the Market [02:24] ya right [02:25] don't hate the player, hate the game [02:25] ;) [02:25] lol i got to correct ya [02:25] Don't hate the playa, hate the game [02:25] oh lord [02:26] lol [02:26] you just didn't go there did you ? [02:26] nope I didnt go there, I was allready there [02:26] :) === nixternal dies [02:26] just messing with ya === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:58] weird, kopete version number is 3.5.2...isn't that wrong? [02:59] apokryphos: u sure that your not in the kde version # [02:59] linuxmonkey: yup, /msg ubotu info kopete [03:00] apokryphos: June 1st, 2006 Kopete 0.12.0 Released!..so yeah that version # is wrong [03:01] linuxmonkey: it's not wrong [03:01] it just uses the kde version number, like all the kde packages do [03:01] Riddell: thats what I said [03:01] kdenetwork would be 3.5.2, but *kopete* shouldn't be... [03:03] hey is the latest version of kopete available in our repo's [03:04] nope [03:04] bah :( seams to be a few improvement [03:05] there are some nice things, yeah [03:05] oh well I guess i'll stick with amsn for now [03:05] *shudder* [03:05] lol [03:06] stick around and I'll get you builds to test [03:09] couple of eager users in #ubuntu to test, too =) === nixternal`v2 [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:15] oh i'll stick around riddell [03:16] great [03:18] wassup nixternal [03:19] nada [03:20] my neice and nephew just left, so i was out spinning them in the yard...and now i feel like crap [03:20] ah you read what I said in the other chan [03:23] the worse part is his brother was here and he went to the store and when he came back he was like wtf, why didnt you open the door sooner [03:23] oops wrong chan === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:14] http://lnxkde.blogspot.com/ <-- someone what to help ? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:47] http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/ [04:47] Riddell: testing, or official repo? [04:47] testing [04:47] although the packaging is pretty good [04:48] Hi Riddell [04:48] it as been worked on and improved by four different people :) [04:48] hehe :) [04:48] Riddell: was that the one freeflying did? [04:48] two iterations later [04:49] hehe [04:49] Hobbsee -> freeflying -> imbrandon_ -> apachelogger [04:49] did we get the extra dep in? [04:49] for the yahoo webcam support? [04:49] which extra dep is that? [04:50] i'm not sure, i'll have to look it up... [04:50] it was late one morning when i saw it... [04:50] there's no jingle or openslp [04:50] I cannot find the jasper image convert program. [04:50] jasper is required to render the yahoo webcam images. [04:50] Please see http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete%20Webcam%20Support for further information. [04:51] hmm, nope [04:51] *looks up* [04:51] heya Hobbsee Riddell [04:51] heya imbrandon_ [04:52] okay, i'll play with it, and see if i can get that to work... [04:52] Hobbsee, i get my shiney new iBook in a few days , then my dev far will be complete [04:52] farm* [04:52] yay! [04:54] can I go to bed now? [04:54] Riddell: nope [04:55] because hopefully i'll get this versoin fixed, with the webcam support [04:55] rotten people - they forgot me in the changelog :P [04:56] Riddell: at this time of morning, you may as well just stay up all night === Riddell sneaks off to bed === Hobbsee uses her lassoo to get him back [04:57] night Riddell :) === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:20] Riddell, you know where the cpu throttleing is handeled for the desktop ? is it software or all system bios ? [05:25] imbrandon: he snuck off to bed... === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:30] imbrandon_: he snuck off to bed... [05:30] hehe np [05:31] imbrandon_: IIRC there might have been a setting in kpowersave for it, but i've always changed mine via the BIOS [05:31] was just wondering becouse my cpu throttleing is turned of in bios BUT it differs when i run sysinfo, sometimes 2.2ghz sometimes 1ghz [05:31] off* [05:32] Sysinfo for 'birdofprey': Linux 2.6.15-23-amd64-k8 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3400+ at 1002 MHz (2006 bogomips), HD: 31/141GB, RAM: 393/687MB, 121 proc's, 6.46min up [05:32] Linux doesn't necessarily honour the bios if you tell it not to [05:32] right right, but how do i tell linux to not throttle the cpu crimsun_ ? [05:32] see its running at 1ghz right now [05:32] but the 3400+ is set for 2.2ghz [05:33] ( in bios that is ) [05:33] this is a desktop so i dont want it to throttle lol [05:33] disable it in the kernel like i do ;) [05:34] nixternal, i dont like compiling my own kernel if i dont have to so i can just use apt-get to update it when nessesary [05:34] i _CAN_ but would prefer another method [05:34] download the source from the repositories...and compile it that way...then you will always use the same config file when you apt-get [05:35] true [05:35] . o O { Why in the world would you want to disable throttling? } [05:35] you don't need it for a desktop for 1 [05:35] crimsun_, why have it throttle whgen its a desktop and always uses the same power no matter what [05:35] i'm not trying to save batterie or something [05:36] imbrandon_: the whole point of throttling is that you don't need to run your cpu at max all the time [05:36] imbrandon_: (btw, you may want to answer ajmitch_...) [05:36] desktop power rails are different from notebooks...as the power rails won't go below specified rates...at 1ghz it is drawing the saem amount of electricity from the system as it would at 2ghz [05:37] nixternal, exactly [05:38] nixternal: again, it's not as if you have to have your cpu running at max all the time (yes, I know about the rails, too) [05:38] so no use in throttleing it down on a deskktop [05:38] no you don't have to crimsum, but why have it throttle, when you don't need that either ? [05:39] crimsun_, as far as i know throttleing only saves power right ? [05:39] crimsun too..sorry for the misspell [05:39] yes imbrandon..that is the function it is supposed to serve [05:39] my cpu life wont be increased by throttling === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:39] imbrandon_: only? I doubt it, but its main purpose is, yes. [05:39] i overclock and watercool...so i don't need throtteling ;) [05:40] no biggie was just wondering about it, this is turning into something much more ;) i'll just leave it as is for now [05:41] you could always file a wishlist bug asking for it to be disabled more intuitively [05:41] crimsun_, since you are awake though can you look at that url i gave in -motu and maybe tell me why i have to modprobe like that on every boot ? [05:41] "need userfriendly knobs kthxbye" [05:42] hahaha crimsun_ ;) [05:42] imbrandon_: missing the rather critical debug spew from ``dmesg'' [05:42] -> #kubuntu [05:42] k thats coming .... [06:08] Riddell: ping [06:10] Hobbsee, he slipped off to sleep ;) just teasin [06:10] hehe i kjnow that - i was going to speak to him when he woke up === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:35] Riddell: ping about http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125210 [06:35] KDE bug 125210 in general "amaroK doesn't apply the show splashscreen setting from a kiosk config" [Minor,New] [06:46] ok Hobbsee what exactly do you need me to do , uninstalling 1.4 now and removing the kubunut.org deb from sources.list [06:46] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/42114 [06:46] Malone bug 42114 in amarok "Amarok can't enable/disable splashscreen" [Medium,Confirmed] [06:46] imbrandon_: looks to be okay... [06:46] someone's already tested it [06:46] ok [06:46] nm then ;) [06:47] i fixed that bug...although i cheated [06:48] Hobbsee, looks like a amarok bug not a kds one [06:48] imbrandon_: amarokrc i think would be in kds [06:48] nixternal: how? [06:49] you have to go into the config file for amarok..and change the splash from false to true...then restart amarok..and in amarok disable the splash...wallah [06:49] right Hobbsee but if amarok isnt reading the kds data right thats not kds fault [06:49] nixternal: yeah, that seems to be the fix === nixternal is listening to "Another Brick In the Wall" by Pink Floydd [amaroK] === imbrandon_ smells a script [06:50] lol [06:50] better then what i smell i guess ;) === imbrandon_ kicks pyuic [06:51] pyuic? [06:51] Hobbsee, you know of any kicker applets written in python ? [06:52] kweather ;) [06:53] okay, that's building [06:53] no idea [06:58] imbrandon_: ping [07:01] poing [07:01] err pong [07:02] hehe [07:02] imbrandon_: a) would you like to test? b) deb or patch? [07:02] deb would make it easy and sure [07:02] sure [07:03] connection refused [07:03] imbrandon_: dcc? email? [07:03] okay, email it is [07:03] upload to ~hobbsee ;) [07:03] email is cool too [07:04] oh yeah. but then i have to figure out ssh :P [07:05] ftp works too [07:05] ;) [07:05] ssh is just for shell access ftp will work with the same user/pass i gave ya [07:08] imbrandon_: should be sent [07:08] k [07:08] checking now [07:09] umm Hobbsee [07:09] thats an _i386.deb [07:09] i cant use that ( amd64 ) [07:09] ;( [07:09] imbrandon_: darn it. grab the patch then [07:09] kk [07:10] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/42114 [07:10] Malone bug 42114 in amarok "Amarok can't enable/disable splashscreen" [Medium,Confirmed] [07:12] looks like it works [07:13] ;) [07:13] imbrandon_: cool [07:13] Riddell: ping for an upload. [07:13] going for -updates ? [07:14] Hobbsee: RE: 42114? [07:14] crimsun_: yes [07:14] that doesn't seem like a /critical/ update. [07:14] well, for an opinion on it - it's something that seems to get whinged about a lot. [07:14] whines about ALOT [07:14] err whined [07:15] in #kubunut and forums [07:15] gah damm keyboard === imbrandon_ pokes #konvorsation to add inline spell check [07:16] it's a regression from breezy, then? [07:16] yes [07:16] oh, then that's cool [07:16] might want to document that in debian/changelog [07:17] "Upstream broke blah by altering the semantics of the config setting; this patch fixes it", etc. [07:25] bleh. got rid of one error message for kopete, got another. [07:27] lol [07:27] maybe it just doesnt like me - but i'm not sure that my yahoo users i'm trying actually *have* webcams, and that might be the problem === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-007-006.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:34] stupid stubborn thing. === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:39] webcams..people still use those ;) === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:41] hehe occasionally === Hobbsee doesnt [07:41] i have no clue whatever happened to mine [07:41] i only used to talk with my daughter in maryland [07:42] which i guess she wants to do, so i might have to buy one ;( [07:42] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40844 [07:43] Hobbsee: ^^ [07:43] a nice kopete patch [07:43] for gpg messages during chat sessions [07:43] nixternal: nice === Hobbsee doesnt use encrypted stuff for kopete.. [07:44] heck ya, because im sick of that message ;) [07:44] nixternal: probably bug upstream about it - wishlist at bugs.kde.org [07:44] i encrypt everything, only because i can and its FREE...like in nothing i have free ;) [07:47] imbrandon_: i'm not sure if htat's already in a later version of konv. [07:48] heh [07:48] would be nice [07:48] and did the patch work? [07:48] i thought i read something in their changelog [07:48] for amarok ? [07:49] no, for konv [07:49] the patch for amarok, yes [07:49] the chagnelog for konv, yes i think i saw something about inline spellcheck === hendry [n=hendry@222.106.128.78] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:52] how does kubuntu-default-settings work? does it use kde's kiosk feature [07:53] chavo: er, k-d-s just takes the default kubuntu settings, and sticks them in their respective directories [07:54] gotta get some laundurary done , how fun *rolls eyes* , bbiab [07:54] It's not part of the startkde script [07:54] chavo, no [07:54] its ALL kubuntu settings [07:54] not just kde ones ;) [07:55] I understand, just wondering when the directories get copied over [07:56] chavo: as the deb is being installed, and it's all controlled by debian/rules inside the package [07:56] No I mean for a new user [07:59] chavo: hmm...well, they get copied over to /usr/kde/default/whatever/it/is when it's installed [07:59] and the new user gets a copy of the /user/kde/default/wherever files [07:59] i think [07:59] yeah I see that === kubuntutaotao [n=kubuntut@60.26.168.94] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hendry_ [n=hendry@222.106.128.198] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:39] arg..i did a plugin change in konqi and now it won't start up === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-36-190.w90-0.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall|vie [n=mornfall@redhat.usu.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall|vie is now known as mornfall|nb === \sh [n=shermann@gw01.combots.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kane_ [n=kane@202.83.34.176] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A61419.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-235-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-235-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [10:01] mornfall: around? [10:01] Hobbsee: all around [10:01] Theatre of Tragedy -- City of Light [10:01] mornfall|nb: cool. there was a guy yesterday wanting to help out - he's particularly interested in adept. did he speak to you? [10:01] possibly [10:01] if he was the one i met [10:02] i directed him to latest tarball and gave him instructions what he could try out [10:02] i can't recall name and i can't access logs atm [10:02] but it's probably same one [10:03] mornfall|nb: [Tue Jun 13 2006] [23:15:29] anyway, unrelated topic, since it seems like I wno't be getting a job this summer, I'd like to contribute some, specifically I'd like to work on Adept, and I was wonderig if you knew who I should talk to about that [10:03] that's the one :) [10:03] cool [10:04] Lacuna Coil -- Unspoken [10:04] it's time to go, i'm hearing your voice.... without words, on the other side [10:05] but it doesn't matter how i feel now, anything at all === mornfall|nb is now known as zbeasnyy [10:10] don't tell anyone [10:10] it's sometimes fun how people don't recognize you ;-) [10:10] :P [10:12] remind me to not play with firewall when i am still half-asleep in the morning [10:13] Expecially not when you're doing it from a remote machine. [10:13] Been there, done that. :-) [10:13] haha! [10:13] zbeasnyy: dont play with your firewall while you're still half asleep [10:14] sebas: oh, the irony of that is, that i was in the internal network while doing that... it just didn't occur to me that i should test it before leaving [10:14] ohwell [10:15] zbeasnyy: Hehe :D [10:15] oh, another bad idea is iptables -F FORWARD when the policy on forward is drop... on your router [10:16] i really should get that serial cable === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sebas grins and takes a shower [10:31] December Elegy by Tristania [10:33] "Cure" (track #4 on Ashes) is preferable. === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kameron [n=kameron@S0106000129f5b884.cc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kozz [i=kozz@h18n2fls31o834.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.51.181] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:55] Nightwish -- Romanticide === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.48.74] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:02] anyone else running popcon? i got a user unknown this morning for popcon@ubuntu.com [11:09] but not in ubuntu [11:09] hmm, nvm then :) === Hobbsee pokes the room for any signs of life [11:57] i wonder ... does Ubuntu devels ive seminars/workshops on the architecture of Kubuntu so that other teams can develop on it ? [11:57] ive = give [11:59] Hobbsee: ? [11:59] hey cool, there are people here... [11:59] hmmm... [11:59] arent you an Ubuntu/Kubuntu developer ? [12:00] supposedly. i dont know. do you mean something like the packaging guide? or the way the builds work, etc, or what? [12:00] Hobbsee: everything i suppose ... [12:01] kane_: does http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU help? [12:01] Hobbsee: what I mean is ... suppose there is a team making a kubuntu derivative ... do Kubuntu devels provide seminars/workshops etc to get them upto speed on how to develop it ? [12:01] Hobbsee: thats packaging right ? [12:02] Riddell: would be the one to ask about that, i think [12:02] i wouldnt expect so, but i really dont know. Riddell will know [12:02] Hobbsee: for e.g., how does hardware detection work in (K)Ubuntu ? [12:03] same way it does in ubuntu [12:03] IIRC [12:03] yeah of course :) but specifically ... === Hobbsee points to either #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel or Riddell when he wakes up. all of them should know more than i do. [12:04] Hobbsee: okie :) [12:04] kane_: what kind of kubuntu derivative, out of curiousity? [12:04] Gnash's broken [12:04] Hobbsee: doesnt matter ... but in my case, it is a localized distro specifically for Malayalam languae [12:04] language [12:04] oh cool [12:05] you wouldnt just translate standard kubuntu into Malayalam? interesting. [12:06] yeah what would you be changing? it would be interesting to know incase its something that could be provide in kubuntu [12:06] Hobbsee: like for e.g., I am facing bug #48164 ... and I have no idea even how to begin to solve the problem [12:06] Malone bug 48164 in xorg "Video corruption at installation of xserver-xorg" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/48164 [12:06] thats not a derivative thing to solve tho [12:07] seaLne: some stuff ... non-standard patches to various software such as Qt, ICU, etc ... some additional software, and some removed software [12:07] seaLne: no it isnt ... but it must be solved and I was wondering how exactly to prepare my team so that we can try to solve such issues locally and then push them to ubuntu [12:07] patches for the language? [12:07] seaLne: like removing Kate [12:08] seaLne: yes [12:08] why remove kate? :P [12:08] apokryphos: because kate sucks for indic scripts ? [12:08] i think for bugs in things like xorg yu would be best to just work with the *ubuntu devs rather than to try on your own [12:09] kane_: what would yu replace it with? [12:09] seaLne: Kedit [12:09] yeah, it's the only text editor to have arabic language support too [12:10] hi kane_ [12:10] and then, replace some of the standard things ... like the clock, add an on-screen input pad ... stuff like that [12:11] anyway, thats the stuff i have to do ... but i get bogged down by issues like this xorg thingy and it would be nice to have a local team who can deal with that .. hence my question [12:12] i sincerely doubt that I can build a team who already knows enough to be able to fix such issues [12:12] (try to fix) [12:14] Riddell: i was asking around if any of the Kubuntu devels give seminars or workshops on specific aspects of Ubuntu development ... such as hardware detection, etc [12:14] kane_: not that I know of [12:14] ah ok [12:14] there's been a couple of motu things like that I think [12:15] Riddell: btw, if copyrights and stuff matter to ubuntu ... then there is a copyright issue in ttf-indic-fonts/ttf-malayalam-fonts ... the font racotf04.ttf has a copyright to only one person, whereas in actuality its copyright is held by several people/an organization [12:21] Riddell: how busy are you at the moment? === kasina [n=kennedy@196.200.37.114] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:24] suppose i install dapper flight-7 ... and try to install say kedit ... will it ask to upgrade the entire system to latest ? [12:25] or will it install the version which best matches flight-7 ? [12:25] Hobbsee: I'm always busy [12:26] Riddell: right. i made a patch for the amarok splash screen bug if you're interested. [12:26] kane_: it'll install the latest version and also install/upgrade dependencies a required [12:26] Hobbsee: oh cool [12:26] and got the kopete yahoo webcam support working i think - but have no webcam to test it on...so i'll upload that sometime.. [12:26] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/42114 [12:26] Malone bug 42114 in amarok "Amarok can't enable/disable splashscreen" [Medium,Confirmed] [12:27] Show Splashscreen=true and that stops the splash screen bring shown? [12:28] well, it then lets you turn it on or off === Hobbsee shrugs [12:29] if you set show splashscreen=false, then no matter what you set in the options it shows anyway. [12:29] crazy [12:29] I've put it on my list of patches to upload when edgy opens [12:31] rather, yeah. cool :) [12:31] worth sticking in to the next lot of dapper updates, if kds has to be updated for something else anyway? [12:36] yes, true [12:36] <\sh> Hobbsee: send it to apachelogger as well [12:37] \sh: okay....who's apachelogger? [12:37] amarok dev [12:37] <\sh> Hobbsee: the amarok patch :) he's an amarok dev [12:37] right [12:38] <\sh> Hobbsee: http://apachelog.blogspot.com/ [12:38] \sh: it's a k-d-s patch - upstream says it's a distro bug [12:38] <\sh> Hobbsee: it's not :) it's an amarok bug [12:39] <\sh> Hobbsee: read harald sitters comment on the upstream bug report [12:39] i'm not stupid enough to argue over that and get yelled at. you're likely right [12:42] \sh: true [12:42] <\sh> Hobbsee: looks like that amarok 1.4 has problems with applying kiosk mode settings... [12:42] so it does. i half got that idea earlier [12:46] Riddell: btw how long are you going to be at UKUUG for? [12:52] seaLne: thursday evening to sunday finish [12:52] cool [12:52] seaLne: you going? [12:52] i'm going down saturday before coming back up the monday after [12:53] that's quite a stay, going to see the sights of Brighton? [12:53] thought i might as well have a few days to look around as i've never been [01:53] Anyone here use xfs on ppc? [01:56] Guest1009: nope [02:00] Riddell: I have installed yestoday, but kneral panic, can not mount root fs === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:03] ubuntu's grub isn't intended to support xfs [02:03] Riddell: lilo can support xfs, so it will haven't problem with yaboot for xfs? [02:04] no idea about yaboot [02:04] why use xfs? [02:04] xfs maybe the best under linux [02:05] marseillai: ping [02:05] Riddell: pong ? [02:05] marseillai: fancy helping me with a personal request? [02:06] it may be possible === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-73-99.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cain__ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel === andred [i=bnc@62.75.169.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@pD950AFE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:12] hmmm i want to launch ubiquity from an already installed and running 6.06 install how do i do that? [03:19] install ubiquity-frontend-kde [03:19] run: ubiquity kde-ui [03:19] thanks [03:19] not advised to go past more than the locale step though [03:20] i'm bringing up another virtual machine instead === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:29] omw [03:29] im getting annoyed [03:31] what at? [03:33] Riddell: so i have gotten ahold of the tickets :) [03:34] Riddell, python [03:34] phew [03:34] im sending a virable to another method [03:34] but [03:34] viviersf: it has its peculiarities [03:34] since python is all references [03:34] if it changes in that method [03:34] mornfall: I'm also aboutto publish your people behind kde [03:35] ah [03:35] it should change everywherre [03:35] but nooo [03:35] it doesnt want to [03:35] nice :-) === zbeasnyy [n=mornfall@rb4b151.chello.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:35] zbeasnyy: wtf? [03:35] ahwait [03:35] you dont have an idea whats wrong Riddell ? === zbeasnyy kills the stray irssi [03:36] lol zbeasnyy [03:36] viviersf: not really, some objects are immutable and some aren't, you might have an immutable object [03:36] viviersf: rot13 :p [03:36] it depends in wht way you're changing it [03:37] eh mornfall ? [03:37] Riddell, its daft :( [03:38] viviersf: my alternate nick is rot13 of the original nick [03:38] kk [03:39] thx Riddell im just going to rewrite the method [03:39] wasting to much time [03:39] viviersf: what are you writing? [03:40]