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| lapo | hi | 02:10 |
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| troy_s | bersace you still here brother? | 07:10 |
| bersace | troy_s: yep ! | 07:10 |
| troy_s | how you doing ? | 07:11 |
| bersace | fine and you ? how are you ? | 07:11 |
| bersace | still nothing in the wiki front ? | 07:11 |
| troy_s | sorry bersace, reading mail log | 07:27 |
| troy_s | egads really busy | 07:27 |
| troy_s | frank is such a great fellow to have on the team | 07:27 |
| troy_s | um yeah... i would issue a "FINAL CALL" tonite from you to the list, then attack it tomorrow | 07:27 |
| troy_s | Let everyone know that they need to proof it. | 07:28 |
| troy_s | that is an amazing bit of work done by neil! | 07:28 |
| bersace | troy_s: sent | 07:29 |
| troy_s | so we will need probably some sort of update on what you have arrived at as well... | 07:30 |
| troy_s | my only thought is to go with the simple tree structure off root, and head downwards into complexity IF we need to. | 07:31 |
| bersace | wouldn't it be nice the wallpaper UI shows only the wallpaper in the screen resolution | 07:32 |
| troy_s | also, i would say that our documents section is going to need to be helpful to our new artists... the Tools section is sort of a starting point, but links for wacom graphics tablets, irc howto, etc would all be extremely useful. | 07:32 |
| troy_s | ??? | 07:33 |
| troy_s | sorry, not following you? instead of a thumbnail? | 07:33 |
| bersace | I mean building a .desktop containing links to 4:3, 5:4 and 16:10 version of the wallpaper, but the UI show only the right ratio available | 07:33 |
| bersace | or the ratio that fit mostly with the screen | 07:34 |
| bersace | that was just off topic | 07:34 |
| bersace | (though of the night) | 07:34 |
| bersace | :) | 07:34 |
| bersace | about the wiki | 07:35 |
| bersace | I think that tool should be mostly about software : The Gimp, Inkscape, ImageMagick, etc. | 07:35 |
| bersace | but we can also provide tool for thumbnailing like the one i used to make DapperHuman review | 07:36 |
| troy_s | eek! | 07:36 |
| troy_s | i am no bdfl!!!! | 07:36 |
| troy_s | uggh. | 07:36 |
| troy_s | oh well. | 07:36 |
| bersace | a page Tools/Review would gather all you need to build a complete review of a theme | 07:36 |
| bersace | ;) | 07:36 |
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| adamant1988 | hello | 07:37 |
| bersace | including Qemu, ago-preview, etc. | 07:37 |
| bersace | adamant1988: hello | 07:37 |
| troy_s | i think we also need to at least make sure that our 'getting involved' has many more helpful tools and is explicity | 07:37 |
| troy_s | some people who can contribute pencil scans might have NO idea how to irc, wiki/ etc. | 07:37 |
| troy_s | with me? | 07:37 |
| troy_s | greetings adamant, welcome. | 07:37 |
| bersace | yep | 07:37 |
| bersace | you're right | 07:37 |
| troy_s | ok must shower. | 07:37 |
| troy_s | back in a few. | 07:37 |
| bersace | lol | 07:37 |
| adamant1988 | Can anyone take a look at this wallpaper I did? | 07:38 |
| adamant1988 | http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1482/ubuntuwallpapertest7it.jpg | 07:38 |
| adamant1988 | I was trying to do something a bit softer and using the human theme compatible colors... | 07:38 |
| troy_s | nice work adamant. | 07:40 |
| troy_s | i think you need to get a SVG or something for the logo though | 07:40 |
| troy_s | it is rasterized all to hell. | 07:40 |
| troy_s | which isn't your fault, just the res of the original logo that you tapped from. | 07:40 |
| bersace | troy_s: waterproof laptop ? | 07:40 |
| bersace | ;P | 07:40 |
| troy_s | laf no... | 07:41 |
| adamant1988 | =\ yeah I tried to blur the logo to cover that up | 07:41 |
| troy_s | printing some itinerary stuffs. | 07:41 |
| adamant1988 | Ok, so fix the logo, anything else that it needs? | 07:41 |
| troy_s | adamant: svg or res it up before you try the wallpaper... i don't know if there are any svg thigns? | 07:41 |
| bersace | i think that i lake overall finition, especially top left and bottom right corner | 07:41 |
| bersace | the logo is not well blend with the rest of the picture | 07:42 |
| troy_s | bersace | 07:42 |
| troy_s | i got access to art.ubuntu.com | 07:42 |
| bersace | but i like the background of this background :) | 07:42 |
| troy_s | i am hoping you can help out with it. | 07:42 |
| adamant1988 | I can blend it bettter, but I don't want to alter it from it's original state... | 07:42 |
| troy_s | haven't had a chance to look into it too far, just ssh access etc. | 07:42 |
| troy_s | i will further chat with henrik regarding other potential cms. | 07:42 |
| bersace | troy_s: nice ! | 07:42 |
| adamant1988 | so really the biggest problem with the wallpaper is the logo? | 07:43 |
| bersace | adamant1988: yes | 07:43 |
| bersace | too visible | 07:43 |
| bersace | remember the discretion of hoary wallpaper logo | 07:43 |
| adamant1988 | so make it more subtle as well... that'll be easy enough to do. I just didn't want to alter the logo too much. | 07:43 |
| bersace | adamant1988: you should investigate to get more contrast between logo and background | 07:44 |
| bersace | adamant1988: the deep yellow/orange "flame" hurt my eyse | 07:44 |
| bersace | *eyes | 07:44 |
| bersace | but really, that's a nice work. | 07:44 |
| troy_s | bersace: believe it or not, its a HECK of a lot of work trying to get all the damn info out of the community. | 07:44 |
| troy_s | berasce: there REALLY isn't much overarching info structure :) | 07:45 |
| adamant1988 | I've been out of the digital art circles for a while, that's the first thing I've made in months =\ | 07:45 |
| troy_s | adamant: hopefully after paris, and some documenting, there will be a clear list | 07:45 |
| troy_s | of todo's | 07:45 |
| troy_s | and just about anyone should be able to pick up a bit | 07:45 |
| troy_s | (think of it as a wedding registry :) -- you can spend a little bit on the little requests, or larger on the large bits... ) | 07:45 |
| bersace | troy_s: should we rename Tasks as ToDo ? | 07:45 |
| bersace | or Todo ? | 07:46 |
| bersace | lol | 07:46 |
| troy_s | bersace: i kind of like tasks or assignments or such | 07:46 |
| adamant1988 | ok, so I think what I'm going to do is make the logo the 'light source'. | 07:46 |
| adamant1988 | and therefor the focal point. | 07:46 |
| bersace | troy_s: Todo is more comprehensive | 07:46 |
| adamant1988 | oh could you guys look at something else I'm thinking about turning into a WP? | 07:47 |
| troy_s | go to town admant. | 07:47 |
| adamant1988 | ^_^ | 07:47 |
| troy_s | bersace: i hope to use the specification listing of launchpad | 07:47 |
| troy_s | bersace: to track the bits. | 07:47 |
| bersace | troy_s: good idea | 07:47 |
| troy_s | bersace: but i have NO clue how that works just yet. | 07:47 |
| troy_s | bersace: if you could spend a few seconds if you get some looking into it, it would be greatly appreciated. | 07:48 |
| adamant1988 | http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5122/spacenotype6sc.png | 07:48 |
| adamant1988 | I'm not sure what to do with it to make it an ubuntu wp... | 07:48 |
| bersace | troy_s: i will investigate launchpad as i can | 07:48 |
| bersace | i'm not admin | 07:48 |
| adamant1988 | anything? | 07:53 |
| troy_s | bersace: you can create your own team | 07:53 |
| troy_s | bersace: and test... it is mainly the specification thing that is tricky | 07:53 |
| troy_s | bersace: i registered a spec, but it won't notify our members etc... | 07:53 |
| bersace | ok | 07:54 |
| troy_s | like i said, it was even tricky setting up a poll :) | 07:55 |
| troy_s | specs would be a valuable item thoughn. | 07:56 |
| troy_s | http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt_2fTutorials | 08:10 |
| troy_s | Some good stuff there bersace... | 08:10 |
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| bersace | about specification | 09:39 |
| bersace | it seems that we should write specification for package ubuntu-artwork, assigned to ubuntu-art | 09:39 |
| bersace | i don't think that specification can replace a Todo wiki page | 09:44 |
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| lapo | hi | 12:39 |
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| troy_s | bersace | 03:05 |
| troy_s | https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/BlueprintDocumentation | 03:05 |
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| troy_s | just got mailed that link from one of the art team members... very helpful. | 03:07 |
| klepas | i shall be using that list to create an agenda of sorts | 03:08 |
| klepas | troy_s: are there any other items you would like to the list? | 03:09 |
| klepas | the list being the agenda | 03:09 |
| troy_s | i don't know klepas... very tough. | 03:14 |
| troy_s | i suppose you could braindump a bit there... depending on who shows up. | 03:14 |
| troy_s | the problem with our release cycle is that it is VERY short. | 03:14 |
| troy_s | which means that we need a good set of targets that users can look forwards to regarding new art... simple things | 03:15 |
| troy_s | as well as subtle more complex issues, such as some of the things that Frank and I have been discussing as per his document. | 03:15 |
| troy_s | that list that Niel compiled is basically one of the tasks we had on the wiki to do a little legwork, which was very very impressive of him. | 03:16 |
| troy_s | I think what COULD be accomplished at a meeting might be to organize those ideas into distinct areas for further filtering. | 03:16 |
| troy_s | anyways... i am going to be late for work if my Ubuntu art habit continues here :) take care ladies and gentlement. | 03:17 |
| troy_s | Peace | 03:17 |
| klepas | would you like to write the agenda? | 03:18 |
| klepas | it would lift some work off my back... (i've got critical response works due for English in a few days =S) | 03:18 |
| troy_s | laf. | 03:27 |
| troy_s | i WISH | 03:27 |
| klepas | i guess not then | 03:28 |
| troy_s | i have a few critical responses involving a wife, a five and a half year old, paris, and a career that takes up a bunch of silly time | 03:28 |
| troy_s | i just don't think i can make it in time klepas. | 03:28 |
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| klepas | fair enough | 03:28 |
| troy_s | i'll see what happens in the few days ahead. | 03:28 |
| troy_s | sorry | 03:28 |
| klepas | but you can make it to the meeting? | 03:28 |
| troy_s | i will try | 03:28 |
| troy_s | this week is pretty chaotic | 03:28 |
| klepas | Saturday June 17, 16:00 UTC, in #ubuntu-meeting | 03:29 |
| troy_s | well... if you can hold it here i can at least get a log... not that it is all that important. | 03:29 |
| troy_s | EEK | 03:29 |
| troy_s | got to fly | 03:29 |
| troy_s | i don't know if you know yet | 03:30 |
| troy_s | but i recently obtained access to art.ubuntu.com | 03:30 |
| klepas | are you a channel operator | 03:30 |
| troy_s | i'll spill you the details as they get to be more useful. | 03:30 |
| troy_s | negative. | 03:30 |
| klepas | pity | 03:30 |
| klepas | need to change this topic | 03:30 |
| troy_s | chan ops sit with whoever gets there first | 03:30 |
| klepas | to mention the meeting | 03:30 |
| troy_s | you can change the topic | 03:30 |
| troy_s | just change it... no permissions on it. | 03:30 |
| klepas | i just tried... no luck | 03:31 |
| klepas | i just tried | 03:31 |
| troy_s | how very strange. | 03:31 |
| troy_s | i altered it the other day | 03:31 |
| troy_s | without op status. | 03:31 |
| klepas | you try. :) | 03:31 |
| klepas | mention the meeting | 03:31 |
| klepas | Saturday June 17, 16:00 UTC, in #ubuntu-meeting | 03:32 |
| troy_s | tried it. | 03:32 |
| troy_s | the other day it worked fine though... | 03:32 |
| troy_s | grr. | 03:32 |
| klepas | ah well | 03:32 |
| klepas | so... AUC | 03:32 |
| klepas | what do you behold of it's content management technologies? | 03:32 |
| jsgotangco | hmm are you going to paris troy_s? | 03:33 |
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| adamant1988 | http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4549/ubuntuwallpapertest5dn.jpg << what do you guys think? | 03:49 |
| adamant1988 | http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8247/kubuntuwp6qk.jpg <<< this one sorry. | 03:50 |
| klepas | jsgotangco: troy_s will be attending the paris summit, yet :) | 04:03 |
| klepas | adamant1988: it's lovely | 04:03 |
| klepas | i would recommend avoiding any bluring of te logos though | 04:04 |
| klepas | make them crisp and sharp | 04:04 |
| adamant1988 | I didn't blur them =\ | 04:04 |
| adamant1988 | I resized them and that was about it | 04:04 |
| klepas | it can happen through scalling | 04:04 |
| klepas | scalling :) | 04:04 |
| klepas | or importing SVGs into The GIMP | 04:04 |
| msikma | That looks really nice, adamant1988. I don't think that the "double" logo looks nice, though, and the colors of the logo seem to be strange. I also think that the colors are too deep. | 04:05 |
| klepas | but otherwise, they are great | 04:05 |
| msikma | A little too saturated, maybe. Especially with cyan, that's an easily encountered problem. | 04:05 |
| klepas | consider making huge versions... us folks on laptops with widescreens like to have a filled, unstretched desktop wallpaper... and good ones are hard to come across :) | 04:06 |
| msikma | I suggest making the image a little more neutral by finding a way to decrease saturation. Maybe overlaying it with a translucent color or gradient that evens the colors out a little. | 04:06 |
| klepas | as for the double logo effect... it could be good if you use it as a sort of... perhaps ripply-effect | 04:07 |
| msikma | Yeah, I always make my wallpapers in widescreen at a huge size (2x 1920x1200) so that I'm certain all resolutions will be provided for. | 04:07 |
| klepas | would entail adding a few more of those (subdued) logo copies :) | 04:07 |
| msikma | And at the same time that provides support for multiple monitors, now that I think about it... I wonder how that would look. | 04:07 |
| klepas | msikma: what is your reso :) | 04:08 |
| msikma | 1920x1200 at home, but I'm going to sell that laptop and get a new one sometime soon. | 04:08 |
| msikma | I'm at work right now... let's see what my resolution is here | 04:08 |
| klepas | i only have one machine. my third arm; the laptop :) | 04:08 |
| msikma | 1680x1050 | 04:08 |
| adamant1988 | I could do a ripple effect | 04:08 |
| klepas | goes everwhere i go | 04:08 |
| klepas | msikma: ditto on that last reso | 04:09 |
| klepas | adamant1988: doesn't hurt to try :) | 04:09 |
| msikma | Cool, klepas. I also have a laptop at home. I'm thinking on getting an iMac. I use one at work, and that monitor is just unequalled. | 04:09 |
| klepas | hehe | 04:09 |
| msikma | I haven't checked, but does Dapper run on Intel iMacs? | 04:09 |
| klepas | i love my inspiron machine | 04:09 |
| msikma | Hehe, I have an inspiron too :P | 04:09 |
| klepas | the screen beats that of a mac even ;) | 04:09 |
| klepas | msikma: not sure... | 04:09 |
| klepas | what model Inspiron, btw? | 04:10 |
| klepas | the 9000-series? | 04:10 |
| msikma | Yeah, the 1920x1200 WUXGA screen I have in my laptop is really nice. Very bright and with very small pixel distance. I like this iMac monitor a lot, too. Mainly, just like that WUXGA screen, because it's so bright. | 04:10 |
| msikma | 9100. | 04:10 |
| klepas | i just got mine a month or two back | 04:10 |
| klepas | Inspiron 6400, duo-core. :) | 04:11 |
| msikma | Oh no\ | 04:11 |
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| msikma | Who the hell made that "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS with long term support" image?????? | 04:11 |
| klepas | 1680x1050 WSXGA truebright screen made me buy it | 04:11 |
| msikma | Stretched type... that is the ULTIMATE form of amateurism. | 04:11 |
| msikma | Okay, tonight I'm proposing a redesign of the site's main page. | 04:12 |
| klepas | hehe | 04:12 |
| klepas | the text image is quite horrendous | 04:13 |
| msikma | Bah, they even made images (top of the page) composed of... upscaled rasterized versions of images. | 04:13 |
| msikma | Upscaled images are also awfully amateuristic. | 04:13 |
| klepas | the icons namely | 04:13 |
| klepas | yea | 04:13 |
| msikma | I wonder who made/okayed this design. :( | 04:13 |
| klepas | heinrik said he was working on it | 04:14 |
| klepas | but i doubt he would have let this pass... | 04:14 |
| msikma | Hmm | 04:15 |
| klepas | msikma: you contribute to the wikimedia projects too? :) | 04:15 |
| msikma | Can't see any Intel Mac versions of Dapper yet | 04:15 |
| msikma | Yep :) | 04:15 |
| klepas | ditto | 04:15 |
| msikma | I see you found my userpage | 04:15 |
| klepas | pretty rad | 04:15 |
| klepas | ;) | 04:15 |
| msikma | Yeah, what's yours? | 04:15 |
| klepas | and your picture | 04:16 |
| klepas | that's rad | 04:16 |
| msikma | hehe | 04:16 |
| klepas | klepas | 04:16 |
| msikma | thanks :)) | 04:16 |
| klepas | but it's fairly empty | 04:16 |
| klepas | i've only really been fixing spelling mistakes and grammatical errors on wikipedia | 04:16 |
| klepas | i wrote an article for wikinews | 04:16 |
| msikma | That's nice. I started out with minor edits too, but then after a while I started liking editing too much. I think I wrote an article for wikinews too, a long time ago, but I can't seem to remember what it was about. | 04:17 |
| klepas | :) | 04:17 |
| klepas | i just have not had the time | 04:17 |
| klepas | very frustrating | 04:17 |
| klepas | college is annoying me and i'm not doing too well in one of my classes | 04:17 |
| msikma | Wikinews is a nice news resource, but it's too bad that it uses a largely unmodified version of mediawiki. It would "work" much better, as a site, if it had the layout of a news site while retaining the wiki features. | 04:17 |
| msikma | Brb.. | 04:18 |
| klepas | sure | 04:18 |
| msikma | Sorry, gotta do some stuff at work, but I'll come by to chat in a while. And don't let college get to you! Or just do like I did and stop. :P I intend to go back to college someday, but just not right now. | 04:19 |
| msikma | And if you have a portfolio site, I'd love to see it | 04:20 |
| klepas | sure | 04:22 |
| klepas | http://klepas.org | 04:22 |
| klepas | under some revamp | 04:22 |
| klepas | i'm intending to split my articles and more publishable content onto a subdomain and keep klepas.org separate for only personal things and artwork | 04:23 |
| klepas | as for college... college here in down under is the step before university... so it's important and not something i can really screw up... | 04:23 |
| klepas | got mathematics first line tomorrow... | 04:24 |
| klepas | and it's past 00:20 | 04:24 |
| klepas | cheers | 04:24 |
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| cyanescent | hi I am hoping one of you can help me with the Launchpad Blueprint thing ? | 06:00 |
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