| ogra | mdz, btw if you see any need to revisit unionfs for ltsp, feel free to drop me a spec :) | 12:06 |
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| mdz | Keybuk: it still randomly oopses sometimes | 12:08 |
| mdz | even with our very basic configuration | 12:09 |
| mdz | and unionfs for ltsp was a DISASTER | 12:09 |
| mdz | it and NFS hate each other | 12:09 |
| ogra | yep | 12:09 |
| ogra | but that might have improved, i havent looked at unionfs' changelog since quite some time | 12:09 |
| Keybuk | mdz: so that explains that then ... anyone in ubuntu-core-dev who proposed a spec automatically had it accepted | 12:12 |
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| mdz | Keybuk: that's odd, there were things on +settopics which were proposed by -core-dev | 12:13 |
| mdz | Keybuk: but anyway that was OK in almost every case since most of -core-dev will be there | 12:14 |
| Keybuk | we can't tell who proposed it though, no? | 12:14 |
| mdz | no | 12:14 |
| Keybuk | we can only tell who registered it | 12:14 |
| mjg59 | Argh my inbox | 12:14 |
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| Keybuk | mdz: so, what do do with these undefined ones? | 12:32 |
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| mdz | Keybuk: I think maybe they should be left alone for now | 12:37 |
| mdz | Keybuk: or set them all to low | 12:38 |
| Keybuk | undefined is better than low, it shows we haven't thought about it yet | 12:38 |
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| mdz | I don't want to futz around with the browser to set them all when it's not clear what we'll want in the end | 12:38 |
| mdz | there could be things buried in the swamp that are on there for a reason, like someone coming in just to discuss one thing | 12:39 |
| mdz | and those should be prioritized | 12:39 |
| mdz | the sab says we have too many already | 12:39 |
| mdz | Keybuk: it also depends on how many specs each person has so far | 12:40 |
| Keybuk | 4 Essential, 33 High, 23 Medium | 12:40 |
| Keybuk | yeah, it's annoying we don't have a sprint workload feature | 12:41 |
| Riddell | does assigned mean I'm expected to implement it or just to lead the BoF? | 12:41 |
| mdz | leaving what...65? | 12:41 |
| Keybuk | yup, 65 undefined | 12:41 |
| mdz | Riddell: it means I wanted to see your name next to it on https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-paris/+specs | 12:41 |
| Keybuk | unsurprisingly the most assigned are Riddell and ogra | 12:41 |
| Keybuk | being derivative maintainers | 12:42 |
| Keybuk | after that, it's tollef and mvo | 12:42 |
| Riddell | Keybuk: I have a bunch of KDE people coming who can share the load | 12:42 |
| Keybuk | NMSP is a sabdfl-desired discussion | 12:44 |
| Keybuk | so bumped that to Essential -- should only be 1 session | 12:44 |
| sivang | Keybuk: NMSP ? | 12:45 |
| Keybuk | sivang: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoMoreSourcePackages | 12:45 |
| sivang | Keybuk: ah, right. | 12:46 |
| === sivang wonders what fun are we in to with the rpath guys :-) | ||
| Keybuk | WHAT IS RPATH? | 12:51 |
| Keybuk | err, tr [A-Z] [a-z] | 12:51 |
| sivang | Keybuk: seriously asking? :) | 12:52 |
| Keybuk | the only rpath I know about is the ld flag to hardcode a path to look for shared libraries in | 12:52 |
| sivang | Keybuk: http://www.rpath.com/corp/ | 12:53 |
| zul | heh there is always a patch for quieten grub | 12:53 |
| sivang | Keybuk: Keybuk http://wiki.conary.com/ | 12:53 |
| Keybuk | sivang: that doesn't seem to fit | 12:53 |
| Keybuk | "software applicance company" ? | 12:53 |
| Keybuk | sounds like makers of network applicances | 12:53 |
| sivang | Keybuk: sounded the same for me | 12:53 |
| Keybuk | oh, conary | 12:53 |
| sivang | Keybuk: but I was interested in conary some time ago, in the "recepies" method but then forgot about it until I saw the delegates list :-) | 12:54 |
| Keybuk | I've never really worked out what conary is supposed to be *for* | 12:55 |
| sivang | Keybuk: also, if we have rants per autotools et al, we can direct them at Erik and Michael ;-) | 12:55 |
| === Keybuk has never found the need to rant about the autotools | ||
| sivang | Keybuk: reading the NMSP wiki , I think there are colliding efforts to solve some of the similar issues. "the RCS approach to packaging" or so. | 12:56 |
| Keybuk | sivang: right, except it's an RCS approach to binary packages | 12:56 |
| Keybuk | ie. you checkout 1.0 of the udev binary | 12:56 |
| Keybuk | and update to 1.1, etc. | 12:56 |
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| kbrooks | sivang: ? :P | 01:18 |
| kbrooks | can i ask a questino | 01:20 |
| kbrooks | i'm reading that spec | 01:21 |
| kbrooks | and | 01:21 |
| kbrooks | i simply dont get it | 01:21 |
| kbrooks | source packages are necessary, no? | 01:21 |
| kbrooks | it is a BIG paradigm change for EVERYONE | 01:23 |
| kbrooks | it could be argued that the spec is technically flawed | 01:24 |
| Riddell | kbrooks: how is it technically flawed? | 01:31 |
| kbrooks | Riddell: well, as i said, it's a big paradigm change... and i think the spec author wants apt-get source (as a example, of course) to be changed | 01:31 |
| Riddell | yes that's right | 01:32 |
| Riddell | but you've not pointed out any flaw | 01:32 |
| kbrooks | Riddell: that's the flaw. changing apt-get source is a flaw imo | 01:33 |
| Riddell | it would help your argument if you gave a reason :) | 01:33 |
| Riddell | this is all an evil plan from sabdfl, you can ask him about it and he'll put his pinky in his mouth and laugh manically (really) | 01:33 |
| ajmitch | kbrooks: stating "it's flawed" isn't enough :) | 01:34 |
| kbrooks | it's a flaw because apt-get source shouldn't be changed. | 01:35 |
| ajmitch | but why not? | 01:35 |
| kbrooks | because it is a big b/c (backwards compatibility) problem | 01:36 |
| kbrooks | if we want apt-get source to be changed, then we should add "--use-bzr" and leave that off. | 01:37 |
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| Keybuk | kbrooks: why? | 02:10 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: you've failed to give a reason | 02:10 |
| Keybuk | "X is flawed?" | 02:11 |
| Keybuk | "why is X flawed?" | 02:11 |
| Keybuk | "because X is flawed?" | 02:11 |
| Keybuk | "but why?" | 02:11 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: the spec can be summed up as "make a fundamental, BIG paradigm change for everyone" ... that's kinda the point | 02:14 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: OK | 02:19 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: where can i talk about specs in? | 02:20 |
| ogra | i'd summarize it as "drop all the middleware packaging crap between the developer and the source" | 02:20 |
| kbrooks | ogra: wherre can I talk about specs in? ping | 02:21 |
| ogra | kbrooks, in paris :) | 02:22 |
| kbrooks | ogra: i'm talking about a IRC channel | 02:22 |
| kbrooks | ogra: france is too far for me :-) | 02:23 |
| LaserJock | maybe -offtopic ? unless -devel wants it | 02:23 |
| ogra | the specs are the base for face to face discussions ... even though we might be available on IRC during the discussion, having a BOF meeting on IRC in parallel while speccing something doesnt work well | 02:23 |
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| Keybuk | you will be able to listen in to all of the BOFs by installing a piece of VoIP software | 02:32 |
| Keybuk | as all BOFs will be broadcast that way | 02:32 |
| ogra | oh, really ? | 02:32 |
| Keybuk | if you have any particular problems with the NoMoreSourcePackages spec though, I'd be happy to discuss them with you (I'm the author of that spec) | 02:32 |
| ogra | thats cool :) | 02:32 |
| Keybuk | hang on, let me flip to laptop | 02:32 |
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| Keybuk | better | 02:33 |
| Keybuk | ogra: that's why elmo asked whether anyone had a !i386 ... the software only works on i386 | 02:33 |
| Keybuk | and we all get headsets and get to pretend to be Madonna | 02:33 |
| ogra | i think NMSP is just a logical consequence if launchpad ... | 02:34 |
| ogra | hmm, good to know, i'll make sure to have my amd64 lappie with me ... | 02:34 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: so, tell me you problems | 02:34 |
| LaserJock | Keybuk: everybody? | 02:35 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: well, OK. as i said, it's a big change | 02:35 |
| zul | Keybuk: sweet! | 02:35 |
| Keybuk | LaserJock: I'm not sure, I'm not sure I'm supposed to know the secret plan <g> | 02:35 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: it is a big change, yes ... it means learning a completely new way to do packaging work | 02:35 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: won't this change be bad? | 02:35 |
| === LaserJock thinks that only the smart people should get microphones ;-) | ||
| Keybuk | kbrooks: why would it be "bad" ? | 02:36 |
| Keybuk | bad would imply that a change has negative consequences | 02:36 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: bad as in counterproductive | 02:36 |
| Keybuk | I would have said it would increase productivity | 02:36 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: how does it increase productivity? | 02:36 |
| Keybuk | updating to new upstream releases becomes simple ... just merge from the upstream branch; no more tedious mucking around with tarballs and getting the patches right | 02:37 |
| Keybuk | merging with Debian becomes just as simple ... just merge from the Debian branch | 02:37 |
| Keybuk | no more mom, manual merges, etc. | 02:37 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: "mom"? | 02:37 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: merge-o-matic; the thing we spend the first two months of any release dealing with | 02:37 |
| Keybuk | contributing changes to Ubuntu becomes simple | 02:38 |
| Keybuk | right now you have to do something like: | 02:38 |
| Keybuk | apt-get source foo | 02:38 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: what do you mean, no more merge-o-matic? why would this supersede mom? | 02:38 |
| Keybuk | cp foo foo~ (so you can diff later ... most people forget this) | 02:38 |
| Keybuk | make changes to foo | 02:38 |
| Keybuk | make a diff from foo~ to foo | 02:38 |
| Keybuk | now that becomes just | 02:38 |
| Keybuk | branch foo; make changes; commit; tell a developer | 02:38 |
| LaserJock | yeah, at first I was like "woah" but now I'm like "wow" | 02:38 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: because anyone can just "bzr merge $debian" | 02:38 |
| kbrooks | LaserJock: woah as in? | 02:38 |
| LaserJock | kbrooks: woah as in, that's a big change | 02:39 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: stop. $debian? | 02:39 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: whatever the branch URL for debian turns out to be | 02:39 |
| Keybuk | probably just "debian" | 02:39 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: ummm......... | 02:39 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: what do you mean? | 02:39 |
| Keybuk | Debian | 02:40 |
| Keybuk | it's a Linux distribution | 02:40 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: where does this URL come from/ | 02:40 |
| Keybuk | every 6 months, we catch up with the changes they've made by merging them into Ubuntu | 02:40 |
| Keybuk | that's our primary source of development | 02:40 |
| Keybuk | right now that is _hard_work_ | 02:40 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: Launchpad | 02:40 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: the *original* debian package? | 02:40 |
| Keybuk | it would be the Debian package imported into bzr, in a manner that allows us to merge from it | 02:41 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: OK | 02:41 |
| kbrooks | "merge from it"? don't you mean "merge TO it"? | 02:41 |
| Keybuk | bzr diff -r tag:093-1..tag:094-1 .../udev | 02:41 |
| Keybuk | wouldn't that be great? | 02:41 |
| Keybuk | no, from | 02:41 |
| Keybuk | cd ubuntu-udev | 02:41 |
| Keybuk | bzr merge .../debian-udev | 02:41 |
| Keybuk | take the changes made in debian-udev and merge them into the ubuntu-udev branch | 02:42 |
| Keybuk | ("merge from debian-udev") | 02:42 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: yes it would be great. | 02:42 |
| Keybuk | hell, forget just diff'ing revisions | 02:42 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: "tag:" ? | 02:42 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: I'm making up syntax :p | 02:42 |
| kbrooks | OK :p | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | bzr branch .../udev | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | # make changes you like | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | bzr commit | 02:43 |
| kbrooks | that's it/ | 02:43 |
| kbrooks | 3 lines? | 02:43 |
| kbrooks | ... | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | bzr push launchpad/~kbrooks/my-udev | 02:43 |
| kbrooks | now i'm like "wow" | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | yeah | 02:43 |
| ogra | Keybuk, i'd really whish i could do that with debians ltsp (which is even in bzr) :) | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | now you have your own udev package | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | Launchpad builds it for you, yadda, yadda | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | but oh no, new ubuntu udev package *sigh* | 02:43 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: huh? | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | bzr merge .../udev | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | easy | 02:43 |
| Keybuk | now you're up to date | 02:43 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: stop for a min. | 02:43 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: launchpad builds my new udev package? | 02:44 |
| Keybuk | ogra: why can't you? | 02:44 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: sure | 02:44 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: so its semi automatic? | 02:44 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: so far i like the idea | 02:44 |
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| Keybuk | hmm, for some reason the Launchpad spec tracker has become password protected | 02:45 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: it's cool - revision control leveraged, that is | 02:45 |
| LaserJock | Keybuk: do you think that is doable in Edgy? | 02:45 |
| ogra | Keybuk, because i dont want all the skolelinux fixes and debian-edu changes we dont need in our package, but the feature i want to maerge wasnt developed ina separate branch and they merged randomly in the middle of feature development | 02:45 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/PersonalPackageArchives | 02:45 |
| Keybuk | can you see that? | 02:45 |
| kbrooks | who, me? | 02:45 |
| Keybuk | yeah | 02:45 |
| Keybuk | LaserJock: I think there's enough time that edgy+1 could be maintained that way | 02:46 |
| Keybuk | however it requires a lot of work by the LP guys -- who have a very full plate | 02:46 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: WTF? | 02:46 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: I can see it | 02:46 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: i wonder why I can. | 02:46 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: that's the old public wiki | 02:46 |
| Keybuk | I don't know why the new one is private :-/ even I don't have the password to it | 02:47 |
| ogra | Keybuk, so i have 180 changes where i want a feature that was developed in ~70 commits of these 180 changes ... but scattered in there are merges that diverge the base from ours ... | 02:47 |
| LaserJock | Keybuk: yeah, that is what I was sort of thinking, how would you transition that? whould it have to be all or nothing? | 02:47 |
| ogra | so i end up with tons of conflicts ... | 02:47 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/PersonalPackageArchives: HCT: define? | 02:47 |
| Keybuk | HCT is the predecessor to NoMoreSourcePackages | 02:47 |
| Keybuk | the idea was a tool that used revision control to maintain source packages | 02:48 |
| Keybuk | I no longer think that's the correct approach | 02:48 |
| kbrooks | what does HCT stand for | 02:48 |
| Keybuk | (PPA is an old spec, written ~1 year ago) | 02:48 |
| Keybuk | Hypothetical Changeset Tool | 02:48 |
| Keybuk | ogra: ah, that old problem :p | 02:48 |
| === ajmitch remembers seeing HCT demoed in sydney | ||
| Keybuk | ogra: the solution is to force better practice | 02:48 |
| ogra | Keybuk, yes, *i* know that, *i* have a separate branch for every ltsp feature | 02:49 |
| Keybuk | ogra: I mean force it upon Debian -- teach them why branches is better | 02:49 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: how? | 02:50 |
| ogra | the solution is to teach people to actually *use* the branching opportunities bzr gives them | 02:50 |
| kbrooks | ogra: how? | 02:50 |
| ogra | kbrooks, develop every single feature in a separate branch of the main app ... | 02:50 |
| ogra | in the end you just do: cd ltsp && bzr merge ../ltsp-sound | 02:51 |
| kbrooks | ogra: "every single feature"? | 02:51 |
| Keybuk | branches are cheap | 02:51 |
| kbrooks | ogra: show me a quick example? | 02:51 |
| ogra | so everybody wanting your feature can grab it as well from there | 02:51 |
| Keybuk | $ cp -a udev udev.fix-bug-12345 | 02:51 |
| Keybuk | $ cd udev.fix-bug-12345 | 02:51 |
| Keybuk | $ vi udevd.c | 02:51 |
| Keybuk | $ bzr commit | 02:51 |
| Keybuk | $ cd ../udev | 02:51 |
| kbrooks | ogra: this reminds me of svn branches :-) | 02:51 |
| Keybuk | $ bzr merge ../udev.fix-bug-12345 | 02:51 |
| Keybuk | (real syntax) | 02:52 |
| ogra | kbrooks, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/ | 02:52 |
| kbrooks | ogra: except SVN is centralized | 02:52 |
| ogra | see the amount of branches | 02:52 |
| kbrooks | ogra: 8? | 02:52 |
| Keybuk | ogra: btw, BzrMaintainerHowto ... get ltsp pushed into the supermirror so everyone can hack <g> | 02:53 |
| ajmitch | Keybuk: so you're not going to work on hct any longer? | 02:53 |
| kbrooks | supermirror? | 02:53 |
| kbrooks | ummm | 02:53 |
| kbrooks | teach me :P | 02:53 |
| ogra | Keybuk, i havent an edgy branch yet before i decide how i merge the debian modularization of ltsp without breaking ours completely | 02:53 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: bazaar.launchpad.net | 02:53 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: basically it's a giant place anyone can host a bzr branch or mirror | 02:53 |
| Keybuk | e.g. http://launchpad.net/products/udev/+branches | 02:54 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: meta mirror? | 02:54 |
| Keybuk | there you can see the different known udev branches | 02:54 |
| ajmitch | Keybuk: the problem I found with bzr & importing upstream tarballs what to do on new upstream releases when stuff gets moved around | 02:54 |
| Keybuk | if you click on "Ubuntu package of udev" | 02:54 |
| Keybuk | you can see the different revisions | 02:54 |
| ajmitch | afaik the best option is to just copy over the .bzr dir | 02:54 |
| Keybuk | you also get a URL ("http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/udev/ubuntu") that you can give to bzr | 02:54 |
| Keybuk | bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/udev/ubuntu | 02:54 |
| Keybuk | will give you a directory containing the ubuntu source package of udev | 02:55 |
| Keybuk | (today) | 02:55 |
| Keybuk | ajmitch: -> #u-d | 02:55 |
| kbrooks | devel? | 02:56 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: i get.... redirected | 02:56 |
| kbrooks | https://bazaar.launchpad.net/ doesnt work | 02:57 |
| kbrooks | or should it? | 02:57 |
| Keybuk | there's nothing "interesting" at the top-level | 02:57 |
| Keybuk | follow the chain I gave to see interesting things | 02:57 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: connecting | 02:58 |
| kbrooks | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev 404 | 02:58 |
| kbrooks | weird heh | 02:59 |
| kbrooks | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/udev/ubuntu/ | 02:59 |
| kbrooks | Keybuk: i dont see interesting things there | 03:00 |
| Keybuk | kbrooks: add a .bzr | 03:00 |
| Keybuk | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/udev/ubuntu/.bzr | 03:00 |
| Keybuk | it's a bzr branch | 03:00 |
| kbrooks | ah | 03:00 |
| kbrooks | ty | 03:00 |
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| Ekushey | when is the next CC meeting? | 07:58 |
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| dsas | !schedule london | 08:55 |
| robitaille | @schedule london | 08:56 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/London: 14 Jun 13:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 14:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 18:00: Documentation Team | 15 Jun 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 20 Jun 21:00: Technical Board | 08:56 |
| dsas | thanks | 08:57 |
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| jenda | Ekushey: nobody knows :) I've been trying to find out for a week. | 09:04 |
| Ekushey | jenda: ping me if u find out ;) | 09:06 |
| jenda | Ekushey: OK | 09:09 |
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| EmxBA | hi again :) | 10:19 |
| highvoltage | heh :) | 10:20 |
| EmxBA | hehe :) | 10:20 |
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| cbx33 | @schedule london | 11:40 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/London: 14 Jun 13:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 14:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 18:00: Documentation Team | 15 Jun 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 20 Jun 21:00: Technical Board | 11:40 |
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| EmxBA | @london | 11:44 |
| cbx33 | @schedule london | 11:44 |
| EmxBA | @schedule london | 11:44 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/London: 14 Jun 13:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 14:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 18:00: Documentation Team | 15 Jun 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 20 Jun 21:00: Technical Board | 11:44 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/London: 14 Jun 13:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 14:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 18:00: Documentation Team | 15 Jun 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 20 Jun 21:00: Technical Board | 11:44 |
| EmxBA | @schedule sarajevo | 11:45 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Sarajevo: 14 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 15:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 19:00: Documentation Team | 15 Jun 22:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 20 Jun 22:00: Technical Board | 11:45 |
| simira | when's the next CC? | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | simira: check fridge | 11:47 |
| EmxBA | so edubuntu cookbook is tomorrow | 11:47 |
| EmxBA | 21:00 | 11:47 |
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| simira | cbx33: yes... and? There's no meeting scheduled the next month, as I can see | 11:49 |
| cbx33 | hmm | 11:50 |
| cbx33 | sorry,was just suggesting, I havn't looked either | 11:50 |
| EmxBA | @schedule sarajevo | 11:51 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Sarajevo: 14 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 15:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 19:00: Documentation Team | 15 Jun 22:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 20 Jun 22:00: Technical Board | 11:51 |
| DanielC | @schedule sarajevo | 11:51 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Sarajevo: 14 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 15:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 19:00: Documentation Team | 15 Jun 22:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 20 Jun 22:00: Technical Board | 11:51 |
| EmxBA | ok | 11:52 |
| EmxBA | 14 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 11:52 |
| EmxBA | and "15 Jun 22:00: Edubuntu Cookbook " | 11:52 |
| EmxBA | i'll be on cookbook | 11:52 |
| EmxBA | today maybe not | 11:52 |
| DanielC | @schedule london | 11:54 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/London: 14 Jun 13:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 14:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 18:00: Documentation Team | 15 Jun 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 20 Jun 21:00: Technical Board | 11:54 |
| Ekushey | @schedule dhaka | 11:55 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Asia/Dhaka: 14 Jun 18:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 19:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 20:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 23:00: Documentation Team | 16 Jun 02:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 21 Jun 02:00: Technical Board | 11:55 |
| Ekushey | cool | 11:56 |
| EmxBA | @schedule antartica | 11:56 |
| DanielC | EmxBA: Antartica is a continent that covers every timezone on Earth because it contains a pole. | 11:57 |
| EmxBA | @schedule south_pole | 11:57 |
| EmxBA | :) | 11:57 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Antarctica/South_Pole: 15 Jun 00:00: Edubuntu | 15 Jun 01:30: Xubuntu | 16 Jun 02:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 16 Jun 05:00: Documentation Team | 16 Jun 08:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 21 Jun 08:00: Technical Board | 11:57 |
| EmxBA | danielC: i know that, just kidding | 11:58 |
| Ekushey | lol | 11:58 |
| Seveas | @now | 12:02 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Etc/UTC: June 14 2006, 10:02:20 - Next meeting: Edubuntu in 1 hours | 12:02 |
| EmxBA | ok | 12:02 |
| Seveas | meh | 12:02 |
| Seveas | that's incorrect | 12:02 |
| Seveas | it's in 1:58 | 12:02 |
| EmxBA | hi seveas | 12:03 |
| highvoltage | wow that's quite cool (about antartica) | 12:03 |
| EmxBA | lol | 12:03 |
| Seveas | @now | 12:06 |
| Ubugtu | An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. | 12:06 |
| EmxBA | wtf? | 12:06 |
| Seveas | @reload Webcal | 12:07 |
| Seveas | @now | 12:07 |
| Ubugtu | An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. | 12:07 |
| Seveas | stupid bot | 12:07 |
| EmxBA | lol | 12:07 |
| Seveas | @reload Webcal | 12:07 |
| EmxBA | i finally installed ethereal | 12:07 |
| Seveas | @now | 12:07 |
| EmxBA | enjoy | 12:07 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Etc/UTC: June 14 2006, 10:07:57 - Next meeting: Edubuntu in 1 hour 52 minutes | 12:07 |
| highvoltage | EmxBA: please don't say 'wtf?' on #ubuntu-meeting, it's considered to be against the CoC :) | 12:07 |
| EmxBA | ok | 12:08 |
| EmxBA | no bad words | 12:08 |
| === EmxBA ashamed | ||
| EmxBA | :) | 12:08 |
| highvoltage | EmxBA: nah, it happens :) | 12:08 |
| Seveas | there, ubugtu now is a bit more correct | 12:08 |
| EmxBA | i know | 12:08 |
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| GNAM | @schedule Rome | 12:18 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Rome: 14 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 14 Jun 15:30: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 19:00: Documentation Team | 15 Jun 22:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 20 Jun 22:00: Technical Board | 12:18 |
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| EmxBA | :) | 12:23 |
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| EmxBA | everyone, join #edubuntu-bosnia | 12:46 |
| === Ekushey is not from bosnia | ||
| Seveas | EmxBA, please don't clutter up the logs of #ubuntu-meeting. Preferably this channel is completely silent between meetings | 12:56 |
| EmxBA | ok | 12:57 |
| === EmxBA will be quit | ||
| Ekushey | Seveas: EmxBA says he's 14 years old | 12:58 |
| Seveas | Ekushey, even 14 year old people ahould be quiet ;) | 12:58 |
| EmxBA | ok | 12:59 |
| jenda | Seveas: very non-CoC-conformist... | 01:00 |
| Seveas | jenda, ? | 01:01 |
| jenda | err... never mind, I missed the 'even'... it sounded a lot worse without it. Sorry ;) | 01:01 |
| ogra | jenda, ? | 01:01 |
| Seveas | hahaha | 01:02 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Edubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 14 Jun 13:30 UTC: Xubuntu | 15 Jun 14:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 15 Jun 17:00 UTC: Documentation Team | 15 Jun 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu Cookbook | 20 Jun 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | ||
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| kbrooks | meeting | 01:59 |
| kbrooks | ogra! ping | 01:59 |
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| kbrooks | ogra! start it | 01:59 |
| cbx33 | kbrooks: you seem rather excited | 02:00 |
| cbx33 | <--------------------------------meeting notes start here---------------------------------------> | 02:00 |
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| Seveas | <------------- no, here ---------------> | 02:00 |
| kbrooks | heh Seveas | 02:00 |
| cbx33 | damn you :p | 02:00 |
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| ogra | <------------- no ... , here ---------------> | 02:00 |
| flint | ogra, good morning! | 02:00 |
| kbrooks | damn you ogra :P | 02:00 |
| ogra | hey Flik | 02:00 |
| JaneW | <----- here-----> | 02:00 |
| ogra | heh | 02:00 |
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| ogra | flint too | 02:01 |
| Seveas | hi JaneW ! | 02:01 |
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| ogra | sooo | 02:01 |
| kbrooks | JaneW: you're silly. :-) | 02:01 |
| JaneW | hi everyone | 02:01 |
| ogra | we have some major changes i'd like to talk about in advance | 02:01 |
| DanielC | hi everyone, first time at an Edubuntu meeting. | 02:01 |
| === Yagisan is here, but just lurking | ||
| === JaneW promises not to be disruptive | ||
| cbx33 | ogra: sounds ominous | 02:01 |
| ogra | rodarvus, around ? | 02:01 |
| === kbrooks waits | ||
| rodarvus | ogra: I'm here | 02:01 |
| ogra | yay | 02:01 |
| ogra | ok, as you all might have seen on the mailing list, JaneW is leaving us today | 02:02 |
| flint | JaneW, Bummer... | 02:02 |
| DanielC | :( | 02:02 |
| kbrooks | !!! | 02:02 |
| kbrooks | why? | 02:02 |
| === JaneW waves | ||
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| === cbx33 starts the hugs | ||
| === Seveas hugs JaneW | ||
| cbx33 | maybe we should all go on strike | 02:02 |
| flint | JaneW, what is it, Kids, health or new horizons? | 02:02 |
| ogra | please giver her a long big hug if you ever meet her in person, the first edubuntu release would never have happened without her | 02:03 |
| === JaneW *hugs* everyone | ||
| === kbrooks hugs JaneW :( | ||
| bluekuja | JaneW: thanks | 02:03 |
| JaneW | flint: bit of everything, but mostly looking for sane hours | 02:03 |
| kbrooks | ogra: doesnt surprise me | 02:03 |
| === rodarvus hugs JaneW | ||
| === cbx33 hugs Lara ;) | ||
| ogra | heh | 02:03 |
| JaneW | ogra: pah, edubuntu is all YOU | 02:03 |
| ogra | not at all | 02:03 |
| kbrooks | ogra: other changes? | 02:03 |
| ogra | i wouldnt have managed any of the paperwork | 02:03 |
| === JaneW expects everyone here to keep making edubuntu better and better | ||
| ogra | kbrooks, patiency is golden :P | 02:04 |
| kbrooks | ogra: OK | 02:04 |
| ogra | JaneW, we will and if only to please you | 02:04 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 02:04 |
| kbrooks | ogra: i'm interested in the changes | 02:04 |
| ogra | soooo | 02:04 |
| ogra | that were the negative changes .... | 02:04 |
| ogra | without JaneW edubuntu would go down the drain, thats a known fact at canonical :) | 02:05 |
| ogra | so the team was/will be enhanced by two people | 02:05 |
| ogra | guys .... | 02:05 |
| === ogra *drumrolls* | ||
| === cbx33 joins in | ||
| cbx33 | as he is a drummer :p | 02:05 |
| === bluekuja too | ||
| === Seveas bangs on the table | ||
| ogra | let me introduce you to our new star rodarvus !! | 02:06 |
| cbx33 | hi rodarvus | 02:06 |
| === rodarvus raises his hand | ||
| rodarvus | hi all :) | 02:06 |
| Seveas | hi | 02:06 |
| === cbx33 slaps rodarvus 5 | ||
| DanielC | hi rodarvus | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | hi rodarvus | 02:06 |
| bluekuja | hello rodarvus | 02:06 |
| ogra | rodarvus, you might introduce yourself and tell us about what you'll be doing ... | 02:06 |
| rodarvus | sure | 02:06 |
| rodarvus | briefly talking about my past: | 02:07 |
| ogra | (i'm not sure about that myself yet ... but mark said you'll be technical lead aside from OLPC) | 02:07 |
| rodarvus | I've been doing development on linux for the last twelve years | 02:07 |
| rodarvus | worked at a few places such as Conectiva, Terra Lycos and Nokia Institute of Technology | 02:07 |
| rodarvus | I've worked doing distro development for quite a few years now (first rpm based, and later, deb based distros) | 02:08 |
| rodarvus | and in the last few years gained some expertise on the embedded/semi-embedded market too | 02:08 |
| JaneW | welcome rodarvus and enjoy the ride | 02:08 |
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| rodarvus | as ogra mentioned, I'll work on OLPC, and, in theory :) | 02:09 |
| bluekuja | welcome man | 02:09 |
| flint | rodarvus, welcome, where you from? | 02:09 |
| rodarvus | will be the "Edubuntu Engineering Lead" - I promise to work hard on it :) | 02:09 |
| ogra | :) | 02:09 |
| rodarvus | flint: I'm from Brazil | 02:09 |
| rodarvus | JaneW, bluekuja: thanks :) | 02:09 |
| JaneW | where the nuts come from | 02:10 |
| flint | rodarvus, excellent. | 02:10 |
| JaneW | *hide* | 02:10 |
| ogra | heh | 02:10 |
| ogra | JaneW, nuts like kiko you mean ? | 02:10 |
| rodarvus | as a coincidence, Brazil is one of the countries which will very likely adopt OLPC in the very near future | 02:10 |
| JaneW | indeed | 02:10 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: you will be missed. | 02:10 |
| flint | JaneW, and good tek... | 02:10 |
| rodarvus | ogra: heh :D | 02:10 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: *bow* | 02:10 |
| bluekuja | rodarvus: np :) | 02:10 |
| rodarvus | I'm quite eager to meet you guys at Paris, next week (or in the future, for the ones who won't be able to be there) | 02:11 |
| rodarvus | specially ogra, of whom I have heard great things about :) | 02:11 |
| cbx33 | wish I was going to Paris with you guys | 02:11 |
| flint | rodarvus, I would look forward to meeting you in Sao Paulo myself. How close to the capitol do you live? | 02:11 |
| highvoltage | rodarvus: you're going to paris, cool! | 02:12 |
| ogra | cbx33, next time | 02:12 |
| cbx33 | I hope so | 02:12 |
| ogra | rodarvus, i'm looking forward to it too ;) | 02:12 |
| rodarvus | in the next few hours I'll start commiting spec braindumps into Blueprint (mostly for OLPC, but also for Edubuntu and Ubuntu itself) | 02:12 |
| rodarvus | flint: I live in Curitiba, about 600km from So Paulo | 02:12 |
| highvoltage | :) | 02:12 |
| rodarvus | highvoltage: indeed! | 02:12 |
| flint | rodarvus, nice touch the tilde... | 02:13 |
| ogra | rodarvus, make sure to ping mdz and/or Keybuk about it they did the approval run yesterday already, so yours dont get lost | 02:13 |
| ogra | (for the specs that is) | 02:13 |
| cbx33 | yeh I have 2 sitting in there that are awaiting approval | 02:13 |
| cbx33 | be interesting to see if they get in | 02:13 |
| rodarvus | overall, the first days at Canonical have been great, already - I sense it will be a *magic* experience to be part of this great team! (in both meanings) | 02:13 |
| rodarvus | ogra: that will be great! | 02:14 |
| rodarvus | our OLPC target is not for Edgy, afaik (but I might be wrong) | 02:14 |
| flint | rodarvus, writing code remains the process of nailing jello to a wall... | 02:14 |
| flint | :^) | 02:14 |
| rodarvus | we'll surely have to discuss this a lot, next week :) | 02:14 |
| ogra | well, edgy would work if you had 10 monkeys coding for you :) | 02:15 |
| ogra | but given that mark doesnt hire monkeys, i tend to agree :) | 02:15 |
| rodarvus | right :) | 02:15 |
| flint | ogra, edgy would work if you had a blue-ray to write it to... | 02:15 |
| === cbx33 could be a monkey for you guys :p | ||
| flint | :^) | 02:15 |
| === LaserJock looks around for monkeys | ||
| ogra | flint, we'll fix the CDs | 02:16 |
| cbx33 | wait what am I saying I already am | 02:16 |
| ogra | ok, next change .... | 02:16 |
| flint | LaserJock, I would prefer that you called us primates... :^) | 02:16 |
| ogra | we'll also get a new top level manager for edubuntu | 02:16 |
| cbx33 | oooh? | 02:16 |
| flint | ogra, a TLM eh? | 02:17 |
| ogra | a so called "education program manager" | 02:17 |
| ogra | i know there are negotiations going on with someone, but i havent heard the final outcome yet, so i cant say much more | 02:17 |
| ogra | JaneW, do you know anything we could make public ? | 02:18 |
| JaneW | I think there is a signed agreement now | 02:18 |
| ogra | YAY | 02:18 |
| highvoltage | cool. | 02:18 |
| cbx33 | w00t | 02:18 |
| rodarvus | great news :) | 02:18 |
| JaneW | but that's insider trading :P | 02:18 |
| ogra | hehe | 02:18 |
| rodarvus | haha | 02:18 |
| cbx33 | JaneW: you naughty girl | 02:18 |
| JaneW | start date mid-July | 02:18 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: heh. are you giving it away there ;) | 02:18 |
| highvoltage | ? | 02:18 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 02:18 |
| JaneW | I wish it was me | 02:19 |
| JaneW | but it's not :( | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | awww | 02:19 |
| DanielC | :( | 02:19 |
| JaneW | but it is someone I know very well | 02:19 |
| ogra | highvoltage, that job is up one or two levels in hirarchy (and payment i guess) compared to JaneW'S current job | 02:19 |
| ogra | edubuntu will be its own little department inside canonical now | 02:19 |
| flint | JaneW, I will miss you. | 02:19 |
| highvoltage | interesting. | 02:20 |
| cbx33 | ogra: exdcellet | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | ogra: cool | 02:20 |
| cbx33 | all the more reason to go to BETT2007 !!! | 02:20 |
| ogra | cbx33, something to discuss with our new manager then :) | 02:20 |
| highvoltage | ogra: i can't pretend that i understand it all 100%, but my instinct tells me that it will work out good. | 02:20 |
| flint | cbx33, do not forget NECC in Beautiful San Diego CA... | 02:20 |
| cbx33 | indeed | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | ogra: so you, rodarvus and the new manager? | 02:20 |
| cbx33 | flint: indeed | 02:20 |
| ogra | LaserJock, yeps | 02:20 |
| highvoltage | and EC? | 02:20 |
| JaneW | so the new program manager, who will look at getting edubuntu installed around the world is RichardW | 02:21 |
| flint | ogra, TLM == ECM? | 02:21 |
| highvoltage | EC will still vote new members, etc? | 02:21 |
| ogra | what about EC ? | 02:21 |
| ogra | sure | 02:21 |
| ogra | yeah | 02:21 |
| LaserJock | ogra: so what's your position? if you don't mind me asking ;-) | 02:21 |
| ogra | our new manager aalso is babysitter for JaneW's kids ;) | 02:21 |
| ogra | (sometimes) | 02:21 |
| highvoltage | also a parent of them :) | 02:21 |
| LaserJock | lol | 02:21 |
| bluekuja | highvoltage: :D | 02:22 |
| ogra | LaserJock, i'll report to rodarvus | 02:22 |
| JaneW | and I have full whipping power with them too | 02:22 |
| ogra | LaserJock, thats all i was told yet | 02:22 |
| flint | JaneW, Is your husband RichardW taking over? | 02:22 |
| highvoltage | ogra: is rodarvus like a mdz for edubuntu? | 02:22 |
| ogra | flint, hey, you grokked it ! | 02:22 |
| flint | JaneW, not that this is a bad thing... | 02:22 |
| ogra | highvoltage, rather Richard ... | 02:23 |
| rodarvus | Richard is, I think | 02:23 |
| JaneW | flint: yes | 02:23 |
| flint | ogra, I am slow, but i make up for it by being pretty stoopid.... :^) | 02:23 |
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| JaneW | ogra: I am not sure if he will be that *technically* involved, prolly more directional | 02:23 |
| flint | JaneW, that is pretty romantic (awwwwwwww!). | 02:23 |
| ogra | just on a sidenote, i'm not happy about not having mdz in the reporting chain | 02:23 |
| JaneW | ogra and rodarvus will be the technical gurus still | 02:23 |
| JaneW | flint: pah! :P | 02:24 |
| rodarvus | actually, I'm still quite new to emit opinions, but I think mdz is kind of unique | 02:24 |
| highvoltage | ogra: i was thinking the same thing, but decided not to say anything, since it doesn't affect me personally. | 02:24 |
| flint | ogra, mdz will be in London. Trust me he will be in the chain big time. | 02:24 |
| rodarvus | in terms of management & techincal skills | 02:24 |
| ogra | rodarvus, we'll be doing a lot stuff inside the ubuntu distro team, we should talk with sabdfl in paris about the structure | 02:24 |
| ogra | i think distro team lead involvement is essential (but thats only me) | 02:24 |
| rodarvus | so I believe it will require involved teamwork to reach the standard of quality mdz has on his work | 02:25 |
| ogra | yeah | 02:25 |
| flint | while mdz can be distant, abstract and generally annoying anywere he will be directly applied when he resides in London.... | 02:25 |
| rodarvus | ogra: sure, I agree | 02:25 |
| flint | and I mean that in the nicest way... | 02:25 |
| ogra | but we dont develop very much thats unique usually (OLPC might change that) | 02:25 |
| ogra | usually we change ubuntu distro packages ... | 02:25 |
| cbx33 | ogra: indeed | 02:25 |
| cbx33 | so really big changes then | 02:26 |
| ogra | adding a feature or two ... | 02:26 |
| flint | ogra, what the heck is OLPC? | 02:26 |
| rodarvus | OLPC might change that radically (but this is talk for paris ;) ) | 02:26 |
| ogra | but well, that something to discuss with sabdfl | 02:26 |
| rodarvus | flint: http://www.laptop.org/ | 02:26 |
| JaneW | I am pretty certain mdz will stay involved | 02:26 |
| rodarvus | its a acronym for One Laptop per Child | 02:26 |
| flint | oh yea One Laptop Per Child... | 02:27 |
| ogra | JaneW, not in the structure overview i got from sabdfl ... | 02:27 |
| flint | the MIT thang... | 02:27 |
| === pips1 waves at JaneW | ||
| rodarvus | flint: right, it has lots of potential for students, specially in developing countries | 02:27 |
| === JaneW can almost not help trying to get involved... | ||
| flint | I presume that a OLPC terminal will pixie boot just like anything else eh? | 02:28 |
| ogra | flint, terminal ? | 02:28 |
| JaneW | hi pips1 | 02:28 |
| rodarvus | what means "pixie boot"? | 02:28 |
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| flint | rodarvus, the only problem would be the RF link. | 02:28 |
| ogra | rodarvus, PXE | 02:28 |
| pips1 | hi JaneW | 02:28 |
| rodarvus | ohh | 02:28 |
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| rodarvus | flint: no. the OLPC hardware has its own flash card (about 500mb large, btw) | 02:29 |
| ogra | flint, you cant PXE boot wireless devices and i doubt the plan for OLPC is to tie the kids to a LAN wire | 02:29 |
| pips1 | JaneW, I really am a bit sad to see you go. | 02:29 |
| === pips1 hugs JaneW | ||
| flint | ogra, I am slow this morning, the Edubuntu thing has always been a server that ties kid computers into a classrooms together | 02:30 |
| rodarvus | the OLPC hardware quite specialized - plas for battery life are 24h, uses mesh wifi instead of normal wifi, small memory/storage | 02:30 |
| rodarvus | s/plas/plans/ | 02:30 |
| flint | ogra, now with the big flash, shared storage could be a thing. | 02:30 |
| ogra | flint, yes, thats one of edubuntus areas | 02:30 |
| ogra | (ltsp) | 02:30 |
| flint | rodarvus, I smell a fork. | 02:30 |
| ogra | but onlya one of many you can cover with edubuntu | 02:30 |
| rodarvus | OLPC also "includes" one (or more) server(s) on the school | 02:30 |
| highvoltage | rodarvus: so you like franks sinatra heh? :) | 02:30 |
| rodarvus | but students can take their notebooks home | 02:30 |
| rodarvus | highvoltage: indeed - how do you learned that? :) | 02:31 |
| flint | rodarvus, you have big problems running LTSP on wifi. | 02:31 |
| ogra | i'm really looking forward in rodarvus work for ltsp, since a shrunk down system will help us a lot there | 02:31 |
| ogra | i.e. i can use the embedded stuff for the ltsp clients and cut down a lot of ram requirement i guess | 02:32 |
| rodarvus | exactly | 02:32 |
| highvoltage | rodarvus: your blog page | 02:32 |
| rodarvus | highvoltage: oh :) | 02:32 |
| flint | ogra, if it gets faster I vote for it (if I voted...) | 02:32 |
| flint | :^) | 02:33 |
| ogra | highvoltage, we all need to learn brazilian now :) | 02:33 |
| flint | ogra, Portugese... | 02:33 |
| ogra | well | 02:33 |
| ogra | :) | 02:33 |
| ogra | shall we move on with the agenda ? we're at 30min | 02:34 |
| flint | ogra np :^) | 02:34 |
| rodarvus | actually, brazilian portuguese | 02:34 |
| rodarvus | :) | 02:34 |
| ogra | :) | 02:34 |
| flint | rodarvus, never could spell anything. | 02:35 |
| bluekuja | ogra: well I added a point in agenda regarding the Testers Team, to discuss about membership guidelines, todo list etc | 02:35 |
| bluekuja | with all of you | 02:35 |
| ogra | from the tech side there is not much i can tell yet, the archive isnt ready for uploads yet, so no packaging work is going on atm ... | 02:35 |
| bluekuja | to decide a stable guideline for the future | 02:35 |
| ogra | we have a bunch of approved specs for paris that are listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuEdgyIdeas | 02:36 |
| flint | ogra, we would like to add gin. is this the place? | 02:36 |
| ogra | i'm subscribed to most of them in launchpad so you can find another overview that also shows the status under https://launchpad.net/people/ogra/+specs | 02:36 |
| ogra | flint, gin ? | 02:37 |
| flint | gnome instant nationalization. helps a lot when setting network xterms up. | 02:37 |
| ogra | flint, you mean https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ltsp-login-and-session-handling | 02:37 |
| ogra | ? | 02:37 |
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| flint | ogra, na, dclug wrote this quickie. I started and competent folks finished it in python. | 02:38 |
| ogra | seems mdz didnt see any urge for that, it hasnt even gotten a priority assigned | 02:38 |
| flint | i suppose mdz does not spend too much time using edubuntu eh? | 02:38 |
| flint | it is necessary | 02:39 |
| ogra | flint, we wont tolerate scripts that change /etc/environment or other files that are forbidden to be touched by debian policy | 02:39 |
| flint | ogra, how do we do this? | 02:39 |
| ogra | its not the way to solve your prob, i told you this seberal times already | 02:39 |
| ogra | gdm or ldm are the right place to attack it | 02:39 |
| flint | the program is written and it works. | 02:39 |
| ogra | (depending which one we'll use in the future) | 02:40 |
| flint | the program is vital to multi lingual systems. https://wiki.edubuntu.org/gin | 02:40 |
| ogra | flint, it breaks the systems, /etc/environment *has not to be touched by anything* in a debian based system | 02:40 |
| ogra | we discussed it before | 02:41 |
| flint | ok how do we gain the functionality? | 02:41 |
| ogra | its not something to solve with a hack | 02:41 |
| ogra | do it in the right place which is the login manager in this case | 02:41 |
| flint | ogra, i am a hacker. this hack is to demonstrate the requirement. | 02:42 |
| highvoltage | sorry, had an interuption (/me catches up) | 02:42 |
| flint | ogra, I wish I could program, but likely i am too old :^) | 02:42 |
| ogra | flint, you apparently *can* program ;) | 02:42 |
| ogra | just do it in the right place ;) | 02:42 |
| flint | ogra, I want to know how to do this. | 02:43 |
| ogra | ldm has all functionallity to set the language since its become themed ... | 02:43 |
| flint | ogra, I will take a look. | 02:44 |
| ogra | the problem is to determine the list of langs from the server, if thats solved it takes me less than a minute to enable the selection menu | 02:44 |
| ogra | (in the code) | 02:44 |
| ogra | aything else for the tech side ? | 02:44 |
| ogra | flint, btw, will we see you in paris ? | 02:45 |
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| flint | ogra, I just bought a house in Barre Vermont. and while I would like nothing better than a ciggi break with the likes of you, I need to renovate this victorian monstrosity my wife bought. | 02:45 |
| flint | :^) | 02:46 |
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| flint | ogra, I will get the next one, promise. | 02:46 |
| ogra | heh, good luck :) | 02:46 |
| ogra | seems to be the time tio change houses ... | 02:46 |
| flint | ogra, thanks, exactly!!! | 02:46 |
| flint | ogra, not you too? | 02:47 |
| ogra | flint, i'm currently moving to this one http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/CIMG0517.JPG | 02:47 |
| rodarvus | flint: I feel your pain - we moved to our new apartment two months ago | 02:47 |
| rodarvus | its new, but many, many things had to be done to make it actually a enjoyable place to be | 02:47 |
| === cbx33 can't afford to buy :) | ||
| cbx33 | :( | 02:47 |
| ogra | cbx33, inherit ;) | 02:48 |
| cbx33 | heh | 02:48 |
| ogra | (best case from an unknown secret rich uncle) | 02:48 |
| rodarvus | ogra: its a beautiful place! | 02:48 |
| cbx33 | well, what's left on the agenda? | 02:48 |
| LaserJock | ogra: nice, much bigger then my place in the middle of the Nevada desert ;-) | 02:48 |
| cbx33 | seeing as we have 10 mins :p | 02:48 |
| flint | you folks throw a hell of a meeting... | 02:49 |
| ogra | rodarvus, well, i like my current place more, but thats rented, and for the new one we dont have to pay anything | 02:49 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock: is an alien | 02:49 |
| ogra | ok, lest move on else we'll be out of time | 02:49 |
| ogra | do we have anything for artwork ? | 02:49 |
| ogra | (me guesses not yet) | 02:49 |
| cbx33 | hmm | 02:50 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: oops, I was trying to keep it a secret ;-) | 02:50 |
| ogra | documentation ? | 02:50 |
| cbx33 | no thought AliasVegas has said she wants piccies of you all to do the edubuntu homie lookalikes :p | 02:50 |
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| ogra | cbx33, but thats something we still have 4 months time for :) | 02:51 |
| ogra | any doc stuff ? | 02:51 |
| highvoltage | my lag is bad too :( | 02:51 |
| LaserJock | is pygi here? the cookbook people had a meeting yesterday | 02:51 |
| ogra | (i saw you are working with the doc team now) | 02:51 |
| cbx33 | um, I'm hoping to fix up ESA into it's printed state soon | 02:52 |
| flint | ogra, I should have something for you doc wise by next week. | 02:52 |
| ogra | flint, cool | 02:52 |
| flint | ogra, np. | 02:52 |
| ogra | flint, i'll really miss you in my cigarette breaks in paris ... | 02:52 |
| LaserJock | ogra: I'm not sure what cookbook people are doing exactly, but it is getting worked on, I think | 02:53 |
| ogra | ok, i think we handled management at the beginning and community stuff during general sidetracked chatter :) | 02:53 |
| ogra | the cookbook developed its own dynamic so i'm confident whats going on is good atm | 02:54 |
| flint | ogra, me too. I will get you next time. | 02:54 |
| ogra | so we have bluekuja left, do you want to chair for your topics ? | 02:54 |
| ogra | 7me hands bluekuja the microphone | 02:54 |
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| bluekuja | yeah, oliver | 02:55 |
| ogra | * Edubuntu Testing Team review: membership,TODO,future (AndreaVeri) | 02:55 |
| === pips1 has finally caught up with the meeting and sends a warm welcome to rodarvus | ||
| bluekuja | well, I want to talk with all of you about the -testing team, to create some guidelines about membership etc | 02:55 |
| cbx33 | come on bluekuja you have 5 mins | 02:55 |
| ogra | about the future, i'd like to point the team to sfllaw, who is our QA specialist | 02:56 |
| JaneW | pips1: lol | 02:56 |
| rodarvus | pips1: thanks :) | 02:56 |
| ogra | you should work together with him on testing plans and the like | 02:56 |
| highvoltage | ogra: you've mentioned it before, I'll get sfllaw to join our next edubuntu meeting. he'll be in paris, right? | 02:56 |
| ogra | yep | 02:56 |
| bluekuja | ogra: ok great, anyway do you think we need to create some guidelines about the team? creating a working TODO list | 02:57 |
| bluekuja | and more | 02:57 |
| ogra | sure, go ahead :) | 02:57 |
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| rodarvus | we can also tip him him in paris, if necessary ;) | 02:57 |
| === pips1 's hand is up next after cbx33 | ||
| ogra | rodarvus, really ? we have a budget for that ?? | 02:57 |
| cbx33 | I have to go in a while :( meeting soon | 02:58 |
| LaserJock | ogra: community donations ;-) | 02:58 |
| cbx33 | in like 3 minutes :( | 02:58 |
| ogra | haha | 02:58 |
| cbx33 | nice idea LaserJock | 02:58 |
| bluekuja | ogra: well, I'll try to create some guidelines alone, so we can discuss them at the next meeting. Some ideas to start? | 02:58 |
| ogra | as i said, sfllaw will be the best person to start with ... i dont see the need for guidelines to join the team or something ... | 02:59 |
| LaserJock | bluekuja: I'd talk to the BugSquad (aka sfllaw and #ubuntu-bugs) and check around the wiki | 02:59 |
| rodarvus | bluekuja: seriously, I believe approaching sfllaw (on irc) is a great start | 02:59 |
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| bluekuja | LaserJock, ogra: perfect | 02:59 |
| ogra | whoops, my baker just arrived, i need to quicky get some bread | 02:59 |
| pips1 | lol | 03:00 |
| cbx33 | oooh nice | 03:00 |
| bluekuja | yeah, i work with sfflaw with packages too, so it wouldn't be a problem for it | 03:00 |
| cbx33 | shute i gotta run peeps, meeting time is over for me | 03:00 |
| pips1 | ogra, that's a proper german. :-D | 03:00 |
| cbx33 | I'll see you back ing #edubuntu | 03:00 |
| cbx33 | pips1: feel free to take my hand | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | cya cbx33 | 03:01 |
| cbx33 | :p | 03:01 |
| flint | ogra, we call it liquid bread :^) | 03:01 |
| pips1 | flint hehe | 03:01 |
| bluekuja | cbx33: soon we'll have ESA in italian too | 03:01 |
| pips1 | cbx33 ok, cu | 03:01 |
| flint | bluekuja, what is an ESA? | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | flint: Edubuntu School Advocacy | 03:01 |
| bluekuja | edubuntu school advocacy document | 03:01 |
| flint | bluekuja, got a url? | 03:02 |
| bluekuja | yeah,http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html | 03:02 |
| flint | bluekuja, in italiano e piu bene! | 03:02 |
| bluekuja | :D | 03:02 |
| rodarvus | pips1: I believe ogra is away for a little while - would you like to go on? | 03:02 |
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| cbx33 | ESA is also on www.edubuntu.org/UsingEdubuntu | 03:03 |
| flint | A marketing document at last!!! bluekuja you done good!!!!! | 03:03 |
| bluekuja | we have to say thanks to cbx33 | 03:03 |
| cbx33 | I ported it to there | 03:03 |
| bluekuja | that started it | 03:03 |
| cbx33 | and I'll be deleting it from the wiki | 03:03 |
| bluekuja | and had this great idea | 03:03 |
| highvoltage | sorry for my quietness the last week. it's been tough, everything seems to happen at the the same time :/ | 03:03 |
| pips1 | rodarvus, well, I just want to ask all you guys who are attenting paris to try to push for another edubuntu summit, with educators, rather than developers-only :) | 03:03 |
| bluekuja | np highvoltage | 03:03 |
| flint | highvoltage, Jonathan, how bad? Death bad? | 03:04 |
| LaserJock | pips1: what? devs don't know everything? ;-) | 03:04 |
| rodarvus | pips1: sure, I believe we can also push this subject with RichardW, when he arrives next month | 03:04 |
| pips1 | who of you guys is going to paris? | 03:04 |
| highvoltage | flint: no, not quite that bad :) | 03:04 |
| flint | pips1, the educators were the meeting in london. | 03:05 |
| ogra | re | 03:05 |
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| pips1 | LaserJock :) | 03:05 |
| bluekuja | Unfortunately I won't be there | 03:05 |
| === rodarvus raises his hand | ||
| flint | highvoltage, Girlfriend bad (that is pretty bad...) | 03:05 |
| === ogra raises his hand as well | ||
| cbx33 | my hand | 03:05 |
| highvoltage | flint: slightly worse that that. but the recovery should be quicker. | 03:05 |
| cbx33 | can I grab it back | 03:05 |
| pips1 | flint starting rumors again? ;-) | 03:05 |
| ogra | pips1, our new manager will surely care for edubuntu summits/sprints | 03:05 |
| flint | highvoltage, Jonathan you need a trip to Sao Paulo! | 03:06 |
| pips1 | ogra right, cool | 03:06 |
| highvoltage | flint: indeed, but let's talk about that later. we're just making noise now :) | 03:06 |
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| flint | highvoltage, sorry gotcha... | 03:06 |
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| bluekuja | ogra: do you think would be possible to have a it.edubuntu.org pointed to edubuntu page in italian loco team page? | 03:06 |
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| ogra | i'm not sure about the naming scheme, but i guess its possible | 03:07 |
| flint | bluekuja, you may want to talk to Kevin Cole of the dcloco team who already went through that loop sucessfully. | 03:07 |
| ogra | highvoltage, has some experience with the webserver and dns things ... | 03:07 |
| highvoltage | znarl could organise that, alhtough he seems to be quite busy atm. | 03:07 |
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| highvoltage | i've been trying to get hold of him for the past 3 days. | 03:07 |
| ogra | is it very urgent ? | 03:07 |
| bluekuja | nope | 03:07 |
| bluekuja | :) | 03:07 |
| bluekuja | it would be a great thing, but I can wait | 03:08 |
| ogra | oki, highvoltage would you poke him about that or pint bluekuja in teh right direction ? | 03:08 |
| flint | bluekuja, seriously, try kcole | 03:08 |
| ogra | *point too | 03:08 |
| bluekuja | flint: ok, I'll try to ping him | 03:08 |
| highvoltage | bluekuja: i'll talk to znarl about it when i get hold of him. i PM'ed him about an hour ago, when he returns he'll get back to me, he's very efficient that way. | 03:08 |
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| bluekuja | ok perfect, thanks | 03:09 |
| highvoltage | ogra: yep | 03:09 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, you missed all the fun :P | 03:09 |
| flint | bluekuja, kjcole@ubuntu.com | 03:09 |
| ogra | highvoltage, thanks a lot | 03:09 |
| highvoltage | my pleasure. | 03:09 |
| bluekuja | filnt: thanks | 03:09 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: sorry it was a long day for me (visa and everything else) | 03:09 |
| bluekuja | *flint | 03:09 |
| bluekuja | ok that's all | 03:10 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: you had something to say? | 03:10 |
| pips1 | highvoltage, cbx33, should we try to set a time for a edubuntu website irc meet? to nudge things further along? | 03:10 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, *you* did miss the fnu, not me ... no need to apologize :) | 03:10 |
| ogra | the fun too | 03:10 |
| cbx33 | pips1: sure | 03:10 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock: just a little | 03:10 |
| ogra | ok, looks like we're done with the meeting then ... | 03:10 |
| ogra | anything urgent we missed ? | 03:11 |
| highvoltage | pips1: yes, can we do it after paris though? i'm flooded with work atm, and my visa problems didn't help much there either, i nearly lost two days worth of work | 03:11 |
| cbx33 | nope | 03:11 |
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| pips1 | cbx33 are evenings ok for you? highvoltage seems more available in evenings rather than daytime... | 03:11 |
| pips1 | highvoltage oic :-/ | 03:11 |
| cbx33 | pips1: yup | 03:11 |
| highvoltage | yes, evenings are better for me, generally. | 03:11 |
| ogra | so i'd say: meeting adjourned, please move over to #edubuntu to make the room free for xubuntu | 03:11 |
| ogra | thanks all | 03:11 |
| highvoltage | at the moment my work flows over to evenings too :/ | 03:11 |
| rodarvus | thank you | 03:12 |
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| pips1 | thanks | 03:12 |
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| scwizard | that's why I logged on to IRC >.< | 07:50 |
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| Sp4rKy | what's the next date for new ubuntu members candidates ? | 11:11 |
| bluekuja | Sp4rKy, community council agenda can help you | 11:11 |
| Sp4rKy | bluekuja, i'd just look at it , but i don't see a date for this | 11:12 |
| bluekuja | when the cc will decide date, that page will be updated | 11:12 |
| bluekuja | :) | 11:12 |
| Sp4rKy | k :) | 11:13 |
| Sp4rKy | so i just need wait :) | 11:13 |
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