| doko | infinity: do the buildd's use dpkg-buildpackage -rsudo or -rfakeroot? | 01:57 |
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| Keybuk | -rfakeroot | 02:10 |
| infinity | doko: All of ours use -rfakeroot, some of Debian's have been known to use -rsudo (like the mips buildds, when fakeroot on mips caused horrible races and occasional kernel panics) | 04:15 |
| doko | infinity: thanks, just had to fix a silly bug which only does show with -rsudo | 04:17 |
| infinity | Right, well "doesn't build with real root" isn't a bug I'd ever file in Ubuntu, cause I just don't care about the buildability of Ubuntu packages outside the buildd network (wow, I'm evil) | 04:20 |
| infinity | In Debian, though, I'm far more pedantic about things being "correct", and you really should assume that clean/binary may be called as real root. | 04:21 |
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| doko | Keybuk, infinity: what state does gcj-4.1 in edgy, it needs-building, but requires gcc-4.1 in the archive. are the gcc-4.1 binaries in NEW? | 04:55 |
| Keybuk | they're building | 04:55 |
| Keybuk | (at least, sparc is) | 04:55 |
| infinity | doko: gcc-4.1 is in the archive (though the newest version isn't yet... Will be soon) | 05:12 |
| infinity | doko: Then I build your latest gcj again, then a few more small things, and the archive finally goes free-for-all. | 05:12 |
| Keybuk | where "small things" =~ the kernel ? :) | 05:15 |
| infinity | Nah, the kernel will build when we're in free-for-all land. | 05:15 |
| infinity | (though I'll queue it early) | 05:15 |
| jbailey | Time it so that everyone upgrades the first day of Paris and noone has working wireless anymore ;) | 05:16 |
| infinity | The few small things are stuff like new dpkg, ecj-boostrap (thanks for having that build-dep on the new dpkg-dev, doko...), debhelper, cdbs, etc... | 05:16 |
| infinity | jbailey: That's the plan. | 05:16 |
| doko | infinity: IIRC, that had to do with shlibdeps crashing ... on some strange lamont archs ... | 05:20 |
| Keybuk | jbailey: we're not using wireless in Paris anyway | 05:28 |
| jbailey | Keybuk: eh? | 05:28 |
| Keybuk | jbailey: wireless in paris, not using, are we | 05:28 |
| jbailey | Keybuk: We'll have 100 people each with 30m network cables? | 05:28 |
| Keybuk | yup | 05:29 |
| Keybuk | wireless and voip aren't friends, allegedly | 05:29 |
| jbailey | Some local regs against wireless? =) | 05:29 |
| jbailey | Right. Latency too high. | 05:29 |
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| jbailey | rodarvus: Eh, welcome. | 09:10 |
| jbailey | rodarvus: Helping make the toolchain better for schoolchildren? ;) | 09:10 |
| rodarvus | jbailey: thanks :) | 09:10 |
| rodarvus | actually, the toolchain (and optimization in general) is an area of interest to me (has been for many years ;) ) | 09:10 |
| jbailey | Ah, nice! | 09:11 |
| rodarvus | since you mention - I'm about to propose a spec (late, I know) which might be of interest to toolchain people | 09:12 |
| rodarvus | based on http://udrepper.livejournal.com/10946.html | 09:13 |
| rodarvus | I would have proposed this spec (and others) before the "freeze" of yesterday, but I have barely started working at Canonical :) | 09:14 |
| jbailey | Ah, yeah. Text relocation madness. | 09:16 |
| jbailey | It would be interesting to even have some analysis on that sort of thing. | 09:16 |
| rodarvus | indeed | 09:16 |
| jbailey | And maybe do a side "ubuntu-janitors" project that gets those types of things in upstream. | 09:16 |
| rodarvus | I'd also like to know (sometime in the future) how helpful 'ld --as-needed' could be | 09:18 |
| jbailey | It's a mix. You can't do it by defaultl | 09:18 |
| jbailey | Things that dlopen other things occasionally find themselves missing dependancies. | 09:19 |
| jbailey | Or at least, it would have to be phased in over time. | 09:19 |
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