| kwwii | night all | 12:05 |
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| kwwii | sleep well | 12:05 |
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| bddebian | Hello | 02:04 |
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| jeroenvrp | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/49779 | 02:41 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 49779 in Ubuntu "Keyboard locks up" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 02:41 |
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| DaSkreech | google Earth is Qt? | 03:00 |
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| linuxmonkey | DaSkreech: yes it is | 03:35 |
| DaSkreech | Scwheet | 03:36 |
| linuxmonkey | a programmer told me its been qt since it started, even the winblows version is qt | 03:36 |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 03:40 |
| DaSkreech | Cmon KDE4! | 03:40 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:43 |
| DaSkreech | Later | 03:44 |
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| Hobbsee | hey all | 05:15 |
| freeflying|away | hi Hobbsee | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | hey freeflying|away :) | 05:16 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: well hell there ;) | 05:45 |
| nixternal | gahah | 05:45 |
| nixternal | hello i mean | 05:45 |
| Hobbsee | hehe hi nixternal | 05:45 |
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| Hobbsee | anyone else feel like joining us? | 08:32 |
| freeflying|away | Hobbsee: ? | 08:33 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying|away: teamspeak - testing for the conference - see -motu | 08:33 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: HELLO!!! | 08:38 |
| Hobbsee | hey nixternal! | 08:39 |
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| nixternal | Hobbsee: http://www.tehbisnatch.org/2006/06/14/api-simplicity-and-design/ | 08:45 |
| nixternal | since you were working on kopete ^^ | 08:45 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: great :) | 08:46 |
| nixternal | im a blog whore | 08:47 |
| nixternal | thx to akregator | 08:47 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 08:47 |
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| nixternal`zzz | g'nite all | 09:24 |
| Hobbsee | night nixternal`zzz | 09:25 |
| fabo | nobody wants to advocate kvpnc ? | 09:59 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: most people arent awake yet | 09:59 |
| fabo | i'll ping later so :) | 10:00 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: you'd be after Riddell or raphink | 10:01 |
| Riddell-awa | moi? | 10:02 |
| Hobbsee | morning Riddell-awa | 10:02 |
| Riddell-awa | and what a grey London style morning it is | 10:03 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell-awa: well, we're testing out teamspeak, if you were wanting to come and join us... | 10:03 |
| Hobbsee | and take your mind off they grey London morning | 10:03 |
| Riddell-awa | still at least I got awoken by a nice Scandinavian person brining me breakfast in my cabin bed | 10:03 |
| Hobbsee | hehe nice | 10:03 |
| mornfall | ... | 10:05 |
| Hobbsee | hey mornfall | 10:05 |
| mornfall | hi | 10:05 |
| mornfall | Opeth -- Godhead's Lament | 10:06 |
| fabo | Riddell-awa: oui toi :) | 10:06 |
| fabo | mais il faut 2 sponsor ;) | 10:07 |
| mornfall | brb, strawberries | 10:08 |
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| Riddell-awa | anyone tried the KDE 3.5.3 archive today? | 10:20 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell-awa: er...which one | 10:20 |
| Riddell-awa | the one on kubuntu.org | 10:20 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell-awa: i got some upgrades from it earlier, yeah | 10:21 |
| Riddell-awa | Hobbsee: so nothing broke? | 10:21 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell-awa: dont know, havent restarted X yet | 10:21 |
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| seaLne | @time spain | 12:04 |
| seaLne | @time madrid | 12:05 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Europe/Madrid: June 15 2006, 12:05:49 | 12:05 |
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| kane_ | hi ... anyone here who can tell me how ${shlibs:Depends} works ? | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee | kane_: heya - it seems to mean that if you have package-dev as a build-dep, package will be automatically installed as a dep. | 01:20 |
| \sh | insanekane: man dh_makeshlibs | 01:20 |
| Hobbsee | that works too | 01:20 |
| Hobbsee | hey \sh | 01:20 |
| \sh | insanekane: man dh_shlibdeps | 01:20 |
| \sh | his program is merely a wrapper around dpkg-shlibdeps(1) that calls it once for each | 01:21 |
| \sh | package listed in the control file, passing it a list of ELF executables and shared | 01:21 |
| \sh | libraries it has found. | 01:21 |
| insanekane | ok thanks ... | 01:21 |
| insanekane | \sh: if you don't mind and also, if you are free ... could you explain how I would add a new binary package to an already multi-binary source package ? | 01:21 |
| insanekane | do i just add something to the control file, and then add a <packagename>.install ? | 01:22 |
| insanekane | and in the .install, i mention which files i want to be in the package ? | 01:22 |
| insanekane | \sh: basically, i want to split a package into 2 so that i don't have to pull in libgtk, libatk, pango, etc ... | 01:23 |
| insanekane | cool, i was right ... that was all that was needed | 01:32 |
| mornfall | kdesu is my nightmare | 01:34 |
| mornfall | now i have a bug that when adept is ran through kdesu, the links in about dialog don't work | 01:34 |
| mornfall | bwaha | 01:34 |
| mornfall | next version of adept should run as user and only run dpkg as root | 01:34 |
| \sh | mornfall: that would be a great improvement for adept :) | 01:35 |
| mornfall | well, the idea is that this will eventually happen | 01:36 |
| mornfall | but kdesu makes me think that it's a 2.3 or so material | 01:36 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: i'm assuming not, but is it possible to force adept not to give a kdesu prompt to login, for a user? | 01:38 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: run it as /usr/bin/adept | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | without logging into the GUI as root that is, which is effectively what they're asking for | 01:39 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: (that should avoid .desktop file) | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: yeah, but does that give it root privs? | 01:39 |
| mornfall | no | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | that's what i thought | 01:39 |
| mornfall | it will work as a browser only | 01:39 |
| mornfall | obviously | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | silly user - he cant have it both ways | 01:39 |
| mornfall | if it could work as root without password | 01:39 |
| mornfall | well | 01:39 |
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| mornfall | it would be a slight security problem ;) | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, exactly | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | just a slight one, yes. | 01:39 |
| mornfall | basically, it would have to be setuid, in which case kdelibs will just refuse to work | 01:40 |
| mornfall | so no go | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | that's what i thought, yeah. | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | thought the user was wanting to have his cake and eat it to | 01:40 |
| mornfall | the idea is that in some version, it will only prompt for a password for the actual download+install phase | 01:41 |
| Hobbsee | nice | 01:41 |
| mornfall | probably using the same xembed trick as kcontrol... or maybe having the root-running part completely non-gui | 01:42 |
| insanekane | has edgy development begun ? | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | insanekane: sorta | 01:50 |
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| apokryphos | mornfall: great interview, I really enjoyed reading it 8) | 01:54 |
| mornfall | :) | 01:54 |
| insanekane | Hobbsee: is there a channel to ask about packaging questions ? | 01:55 |
| Hobbsee | insanekane: #ubuntu-motu | 01:56 |
| insanekane | Hobbsee: thanks | 01:56 |
| Hobbsee | insanekane: if it's kde specific, then here | 01:56 |
| insanekane | not really | 01:56 |
| mornfall | The Gathering -- Saturnine | 01:58 |
| mornfall | The Gathering -- Analog Park | 02:00 |
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| jjesse | did Riddell leave already for paris? | 03:07 |
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| apachelogger | jjesse: considering he is away for about 15 hours, probably | 03:10 |
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| bddebian | Hello | 03:49 |
| mornfall | jjesse: he mentioned something like that | 03:50 |
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| Tonio_ | hey all | 07:31 |
| jjesse | hiya Tonio_ | 07:31 |
| jjesse | not many around today :) | 07:31 |
| Tonio_ | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuXGL | 07:32 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: am I wrong or is everyone confused with xgl and compiz | 07:32 |
| Tonio_ | I don't see the point between xgl and kde.... | 07:33 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm? | 07:33 |
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| DaSkreech | What do you want to know? | 07:34 |
| Tonio_ | I see verywhere that xgl is uncompatible with kde.... | 07:35 |
| Tonio_ | I don't see the point | 07:35 |
| jjesse | Tonio_: to be honest i've never tried either | 07:35 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: don't they generally speak of compiz ? | 07:35 |
| jjesse | currently right now i don't have the opportunity to run kubuntu as my primary box, i just run it in a virtual machine | 07:35 |
| jjesse | so i don't know if i can even run either in VMWare | 07:35 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: ah ok | 07:35 |
| jjesse | its one of those things i'd like to.... but | 07:35 |
| DaSkreech | Tonio_: Yes compixz is currently the important thing | 07:36 |
| DaSkreech | Which is a hack/rewrite/based off Metacity | 07:36 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: the problem is that even kubuntu specs on that point reffer to xgl, so that I'm quite confused on that point | 07:36 |
| DaSkreech | So there is some issue with it and KDE | 07:36 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: between compiz and kde, I know that the kde-window decorator component simply doesn't work | 07:37 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah The compositing server is irrelevant | 07:37 |
| Tonio_ | but technically kde and xgl have no link between them, so that I don't understand the point | 07:37 |
| DaSkreech | For most times you see people gushing about XGl they mean compiz | 07:38 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: yes but on a spec......... | 07:41 |
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| DaSkreech | Tonio_: Link? | 07:46 |
| Tonio_ | da | 07:47 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuXGL | 07:47 |
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| DaSkreech | That's kind of misleading | 08:28 |
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| jpatrick | kmon: hey | 08:43 |
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| neoncode | Has the kubuntu usplash just been updated? Adept updater just downloaded an updated version of that package. | 09:33 |
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| marseillai_ | jpatrick: i've saw that you've made a package of kitten (now rename strigi) do you have also package the kde3gui or only the search tool ? and i think developer would be happy to have or see this packages. | 10:05 |
| jpatrick | I'm packaging Kitten, Dolphin, * | 10:06 |
| jpatrick | CLenuce | 10:07 |
| marseillai_ | clucene ;) | 10:07 |
| jpatrick | oh ok | 10:07 |
| jpatrick | marseillai_: got my last exam, tomorrow, tell me what you want packaged then | 10:07 |
| marseillai_ | jpatrick: i think that vandenoever on #kat would be happy to talk with you about this. he his developer of kitten(strigi) and work really hard | 10:08 |
| marseillai_ | oki let you work .... | 10:08 |
| jpatrick | ok I'm in | 10:08 |
| jpatrick | introduce me, introduce me :) | 10:08 |
| jpatrick | marseillai_: ^ | 10:09 |
| jpatrick | Too late | 10:10 |
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| jpatrick | bed time | 10:34 |
| nixternal`afk | how bad is this update going to be? is it going to destroy my ati drivers and setup now? if i reboot will i still have rendering enabled...im scared here ;) | 10:53 |
| nixternal`afk | here goes a reboot..if im not back in 3 minutes you know it was bad ;) | 10:54 |
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| nixternal | whew..everything worked...will there be a kernel upgrade from -23-k7 to -25-k7 | 10:59 |
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| DaSkreech | What happened ? | 11:27 |
| DaSkreech | Was there a KDE update? | 11:27 |
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| nixternal | DaSkreech: yes...a bunch of updates from what i seen...xorg and kernel was the big ones | 11:32 |
| DaSkreech | Man :-( I Hate updating my kernel | 11:33 |
| === DaSkreech mutes Mornfall's display | ||
| === DaSkreech wishes adept has changelogs | ||
| DaSkreech | nixternal: So what are the changes? | 11:33 |
| nixternal | i seen libgnomeprint, xserver-xorg-fglrx, xserver-xorg-glx, linux-2.6.15-25.usplash, and a few others that i can't remember | 11:35 |
| DaSkreech | Really? | 11:37 |
| DaSkreech | U have nearly every single KDE app upgraded | 11:37 |
| DaSkreech | I Have .. | 11:38 |
| toma | ok, ive had it | 11:47 |
| toma | im going to patch konqueror to always show the favorite menu bar | 11:48 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: that happens with everypatch to kdebase, since it generates lots of deb files | 11:49 |
| Tonio_ | so I assume that's just a little patch or kdebase | 11:50 |
| DaSkreech | Kate? | 11:50 |
| Lure | DaSkreech: kde 3.5.3 got update only (I think) | 11:50 |
| Lure | DaSkreech: or it may be kdm security patch | 11:51 |
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| DaSkreech | decides against updating the kernel | 11:52 |
| DaSkreech | Wait | 11:52 |
| DaSkreech | .. | 11:52 |
| DaSkreech | naw I'll update :-) | 11:52 |
| === DaSkreech is installing xorg-air and wants a backup in case thigns go wrong :) | ||
| insanekane | is there some way to affect the startup environment of all my users without touching /etc/environment ? | 12:03 |
| insanekane | (and also override the settings in /etc/environment) | 12:04 |
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