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bulltitani'm at firefox place but it doesn't says anything12:03
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ubuntuHow do i upgrade from Breezy to Dapper the easiest way?12:05
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Hawkwind!upgrade12:05
svivianok, tried it using kdesu. Same behavior. The only difference is I didn't see the locale errors, probably because it was already set to default instead of United States12:05
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)12:06
cox377Does anyone have any recommendations on the best way to export an address book from outlook express to thunderbird, i tried via .txt but all it had was the email address and no names etc after i had selected all info to be exported when within OE12:06
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ubuntu!upgrade12:06
Hawkwindubuntu: The bot just told you the info :P12:06
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cox377damn.. just realised that was a bot. Clever stuff12:07
jerryhi12:07
jerryI was just thinking12:07
HawkwindGreat!12:07
jerryI had a gadget that connected to the wol and when you pushed the check box button the computer would power on12:08
jerryso I was thinking why would wake on onboard lan not do the same?12:09
jerryactually nevermind it wasn't connected to the wol12:09
jerrybrb12:09
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lime4x4is anyone else having trouble updating there sources.list?12:10
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heinkel_111lime4x4: you could do it "manually" inetead of using adept12:11
heinkel_111lime4x4: I am assuming tou are going to upgrade to Dapper Drake?12:11
lime4x4yeah i've tried that but i'm getting erors for the last week i've even tried different ones12:12
heinkel_111hmm12:12
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lime4x4fresh install of dapper drake about 2 weeks ago12:12
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heinkel_111ok not same problem that i solved for myself yesterday then12:12
lime4x4http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned error code 212:13
lime4x4i get like 4 errors like that one12:13
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heinkel_111what is error code 2 then?12:13
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heinkel_111seems like an uncompressing error of some kind?12:14
lime4x4i'll run apt-get update and c if it says anything elese12:14
heinkel_111yep12:14
heinkel_111could you paste your sources.list into  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com12:15
heinkel_111?12:15
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lime4x4k give me a sec12:15
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lime4x4done12:16
lime4x4i've tried us fr and au12:16
sdlnxgkanyone have problem with codecs in kaffeine??12:16
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lime4x493% [17 Packages bzip2 0]  [Waiting for headers]  [Waiting for headers] 12:17
lime4x4bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.12:17
lime4x4        Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)12:17
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lime4x4this has been going on for over a week now12:20
heinkel_111lime4x4: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70958712:20
heinkel_111that is my sources.list12:20
heinkel_111worked perfectly as of yesterday12:20
zoishello room12:20
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zoisalles gut?12:21
sviviannein12:21
zoisy not?12:21
zoissmth happened svivian?12:21
lime4x4ok i'll try it got nothing to lose at this point...lol12:21
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svivianPrinting problems, monitor problems12:21
zoisja. ich auch bzw. den Druecker12:22
svivianzois: you also having printing problems?12:22
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zoismy printer is not seen12:23
zoisok i wont speak anymore german12:23
zoislol12:23
zoisbut i havent searched about it cause fortunately i dont need it right now. plus i am a new linux user12:24
zois:-)12:24
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zoiskaneis Ellhnas edw mesa?12:24
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heinkel_111lime4x4: any rsults yet?12:27
zoisanyway12:27
zoisi am going out12:27
zoisc ya room12:28
zoisbye svivian12:28
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lime4x4heinkell_111  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70959712:28
bubblenutHi, if I try to remove kopete in syntapic it tells me it's going to also remove "kubuntu-desktop", how can I remove kopete without removing the kubuntu desktop?12:28
LeeJunFanbubblenut: it's fine to remove kubuntu-desktop, removing kubuntu-desktop doesn't mean your going to lose KDE and everything.12:30
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bubblenutOh, cool, thanks LeeJunFan12:31
morlahi. Framebuffer apps (links2 for example) only work for root, is this supposed to be like this?12:33
bobesponjahey guys12:34
bobesponjathe FAQ says to install libxine-extracodecs but there is no such thing in universe or main12:35
h3sp4wnits in multiverse12:35
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bobesponjaok, I thought this one was for backport only12:35
h3sp4wnNo multiverse is all the stuff with questionable legality (i.e mp3 codecs)12:36
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bobesponjah3sp4wn: does it have proprietary stuff too?12:38
h3sp4wnSome stuff yes12:38
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h3sp4wnflash , java12:38
bobesponjalike dvd stuff and mplayer?12:38
bobesponjaok12:38
heinkel_111lime4x4: this beats me, but somehting seems wrong with the compression utilities gzip/bzip etc?12:38
h3sp4wni think so12:38
heinkel_111lime4x4: it appears it it on your side, as it works here, but I cannot figure it out12:39
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Tommy2k4can anyone help me with smb4k / samba12:39
lime4x4is it possible to remove them and then reinstall them?12:40
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heinkel_111i guess so, but i don't know how :P12:40
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heinkel_111anyway, gtg - time for ZzZzleeep12:41
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heinkel_111good night, and good luck!12:41
lime4x4k thanks for the help12:41
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RandomDude15I need help12:44
RandomDude15with nvida drivers12:44
romeo5koh oh12:44
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romeo5kask  kkathman  abou NVDIA drivers12:45
EvilIdler!nvidia12:45
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia12:45
RandomDude15I instaleld nvidia-glx12:45
RandomDude15and changed it from nv to nvidia12:45
shocktrooper1winbond, actually I have windows set to fat3212:45
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RandomDude15in the xorg.conf file12:45
RandomDude15and it just  sits there with the kubuntu boot screen logo ><12:45
RandomDude15forever12:45
romeo5khmmm....12:46
romeo5ksits there at what part of the scrreeen?? mounting iomage??12:46
romeo5kimage**12:46
romeo5k?12:46
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RandomDude15sits htere and does nothing12:46
romeo5kwhew... im not the nvidia expert.. like i said.. kkathman is12:47
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romeo5kbrb ppl12:47
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gezhello. I am having a problem saving settings in kcontrol, I add a dns server, and keyboard layout, but when I logout my settings dissapper!12:49
gezI have saved the session, and apps are being saved, just these setting :(12:49
gezkubuntu dapper 6.06 btw12:50
gezfresh!12:50
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Electronhi, adema12:51
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rguyfrom what distro did you all convert to kubuntu from?12:53
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Hawkwindrguy: I'm currently converting from Mandriva12:54
gezhi rguy- I have done a fresh install12:54
gezoh, not me? :(12:54
gezany guru's in the house?12:54
Hawkwindgez: Just ask your question12:56
gez I am having a problem saving settings in kcontrol, I add a dns server, and keyboard layout, but when I logout my settings dissapper!12:56
gezeven if I edit the /etc/resolv.conf file manually, it seems to revert to the previous version12:57
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gezand all the fly honeys say ee-oh!12:58
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r0xzkonqueror crashes on sourceforge here01:14
r0xzhttp://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/keepassx/KeePassX-0.2.1.deb?use_mirror=heanet and hit the download link on top-> crash01:14
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r0xzjust checking if i am the only one...01:14
Tommy2k4is there any way i can view all mounts01:14
r0xzTommy2k4: yes, by mount01:15
Tommy2k4thanks01:15
chavor0xz, no crash here01:15
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Tommy2k4i accidentally mounted something twice and want to umount it but it wont cos its mounted more than once01:16
Tommy2k4any ideas?01:16
r0xzchavo: sorry, hit a location to save01:16
r0xztoo01:16
larson9999i'm getting there.  a couple more things and this system will be all up and running.01:16
chavor0xz, I did and it saved fine01:16
r0xzok, then it's just me :)01:16
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chavor0xz, I have kde 3.5.3 though01:17
r0xzyeah me too01:17
chavook01:17
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r0xzbut an upgraded version, and firefox even has problems(crashing) with gmail lately, so it's time to wipe and reinstall i guess01:18
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MasterEvilAcedoes .net framework stuff work on WINE?01:21
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visik7MasterEvilAce: there is mono and dotgnu01:23
visik7there are :)01:23
edneymatiasbye! see ya!01:25
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ubuntucool01:42
ubuntugoodbye :)01:42
Tommy2k4where do i set preferred applications?01:42
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RawSewage"Democrats promise more oversight if they win House"    ...  more?01:42
coldasfireheart0hey there peeps01:43
coldasfireheart0anybody here can help me out with some flash settings?01:43
RawSewageThe Democrats fulfilled their promise.  At least they even mentioned it.01:43
RawSewageOH01:43
RawSewageWrong channel01:43
coldasfireheart0or is it just politics talk here01:43
RawSewageI hate when I do that01:43
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D4m4gebonne nuit01:47
nickprestaI was kind of curious about being a package manager01:48
nickprestaI have read the suggested documents and such01:48
nickprestabut I was wondering how much time and effort being a package maintainer takes?01:49
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Chitosehow to install kubuntu in reiserfs partition?01:51
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Tommy2k4opera's tray icon doesnt have a transparent background, is that because im using static instead of shared?01:56
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visik7Tommy2k4: no depends on how is coded01:58
visik7old gaim had the same problem01:59
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yonkeltronwhat packages need to be installed on a kubuntu desktop system to install a working LAMP stack?02:06
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InteliWaspanyone awake?02:14
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seanieb64hi02:22
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kennyhow do you change the work group in samba02:24
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MrBrizzioanyone know what this means? W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508802:26
Cornelliusbrb02:26
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deameyeskubuntu isn't a live cd, is it?02:28
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MrBrizziodeameyes, it comes on one02:29
deameyesbut when u install it it's put on the harddrive, right?02:29
MrBrizzioyah02:29
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MrBrizzioanyone know what this means? W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508802:31
ubuntuhello02:31
ubuntulooking for some help in getting sound to work in dapper02:33
ubuntuis there anyone here that can help with sound problems02:36
MrBrizziojust ask ubuntu02:37
CornelliusWhy am I unable to play midis and why can have I no midi mappers that I can choose ?02:38
ubuntuok... i'm running on the liveCD... in hoary my sound card worked, but in dapper it doesn't02:38
MrBrizziowhat about Breezy?02:38
ubuntuhaven't tried breezy... think i should?02:39
MrBrizzioit would help you to discover where the issue is02:39
MrBrizzioit could be the Dapper kernel, I've had some trouble with it02:40
ubuntuok... if i have problems in breezy too... i'll be back... thanks MrBrizzio02:40
MrBrizzionp :)02:40
ubuntubye02:41
MrBrizziodoes anyone know why I would be crashing with SIGABRT 6 on KSplash?02:42
james_xxxmy computer has two PCI slots. the BusID for the onboard video card is "PCI:1:0:0".... would anyone have an idea what a logical guess might be for the BusID's for the other two PCI slots?? (i am trying to install a new video card)02:44
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LeeJunFanjames_xxx: lspci02:46
james_xxxLeeJunFan: ty02:47
Tommy2k4i added the extra repositories and it wont find mplayer :(02:47
LeeJunFanTommy2k4: did you update sources?02:47
HealotTommy2k4: give us your sources.list >> /etc/apt/sources.list02:48
Tommy2k4yes02:48
HealotI'll tell you where the wrong went :)02:48
Tommy2k4http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1573402:50
Tommy2k4they used to say gb not US but it was giving an error so i changed it to US and no errors when updating now but still wont apt-get install mplayer02:50
Healotdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted02:51
Healotthere...02:51
Healotadd "universe multiverse" to that LINE specifically02:51
Healotwith out the quotes and mind the spaces02:51
Healotupdate, there you go02:51
Healottechnically you add those at this line instead02:52
Healotdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse >> which doesn't have the lastest dapper repos02:52
Healotit's a backport@02:52
Tommy2k4yey it works02:52
Tommy2k4thx02:52
Healotyou used adept right?02:52
Tommy2k4apt-get02:53
Healotdid you upgrade from breezy?02:53
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Tommy2k4nope first time linux user yesterday02:54
Healotok02:54
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imkcan you set up software raid from regular kubuntu cd? or only alternate cd?02:58
StRtoday there have been a lot of updates for xgl and now I can use it in kde very nice  :D03:00
StRI'm so happy now :D03:00
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Tommy2k4now to try and get the mplayer plugin working in opera =/03:00
Healotimk: the alternateCD/server CD03:00
Healotdesktop only handles basic partitioning03:01
imkthats what i figured03:01
LeafWizI have a MX510 mouse. I want mousebutton 4 and 5 too work.. But I can't see any options for enable..03:01
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imkyou dont get any choices/configuration during the alternate setup?03:01
imkbasically it had me select my raid partitions and then it just goes and installs everything, with no choices03:02
imkthen it sets grub up wrong and i cant boot :D03:02
LeeJunFanStR: kde decorations work or still have to use gnome?03:02
StRdecorations you mean instead of kwin?03:03
yonkeltronis there a reason i can't get ruby gems to work?03:03
LeeJunFanStR: yeah.03:03
StRLeeJunFan: well.. I have not tried using kwin..03:04
StRbut I dont' care...  :D03:04
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LeeJunFanStR: you still have to use gnome-window-decorator instead of kde-window-decorator. :(03:04
StRlet me try.....03:04
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StRLeeJunFan: how should I try?  I  get03:05
StRstr@eva:~$ kde-window-decorator --replace03:06
StRkde-window-decorator: Another window decorator is already running03:06
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StRlet me try... BRB03:06
LeeJunFanStR: depends on how you have yours setup. Mine is set in .Xsession, but wherever you have gnome-window-decorator loading you'd have to replace with kde-window-decorator and log out/in.03:06
Tommy2k4is there no precompiled mplayer plug-in anywhere :(03:07
LeeJunFan!tell Tommy2k4 about restricted03:07
Tommy2k4where does mplayer come into that =/03:09
LeeJunFanLeafWiz: you'd have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, I've got an MX518, but I haven't bothered with it. heh03:10
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LeeJunFanLeafWiz: perhaps this will point you in the right direction, it's an alternative to editing xorg.conf https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/4757903:11
LeeJunFanTommy2k4: the mplayer codecs, you have to download them from the mplayer site.03:12
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Tommy2k4not the codecs, the plugin for browsers03:12
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CornelliusWhy am I unable to play midis and why can have I no midi mappers that I can choose ?03:13
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Simplyflowerhello... i'm back with same problem with sound card... won't work in breezy or dapper, but works in hoary03:14
LeeJunFanTommy2k4: ah, I dunno. Although konqueror will use kaffeine which uses xine which uses mplayer codecs, heh, so it's kind of an mplayer plugin for konqueror.03:14
Hhhhhquestion: how's media support in draper AMD6403:14
Tommy2k4so if i get the codecs it should work in kaffeine03:14
Hhhhh?03:14
CheeseBurgerManHhhhh: Well...MP3s work, I haven't actually tried much else. :P03:15
LeeJunFanTommy2k4: yeah, almost everything plays for me with kaffeine.03:15
Tommy2k4can i get kaffeine plugin working in opera?03:15
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LeeJunFanHhhhh: a lot of video stuff won't work w/o installing a chrooted i386 version of mplayer and such, as there are no static codecs for amd64.03:16
LeeJunFanTommy2k4: Never used opera.03:16
Hhhhh:p03:16
HhhhhI think I'll just go with 32-bit then03:16
LeeJunFanHhhhh: yeah. That's one of the reasons I stick with 32bit for now too.03:16
LeeJunFanHhhhh: flash is another thing that wont work with amd64.03:17
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CheeseBurgerManLeeJunFan: Strangly, flash installs perfectly with the new Flock beta.03:17
Hhhhhok, 32-bit it is then03:17
Healotit works, in a different way03:17
Simplyfloweris there anybody here that can help me get my sound card working?03:17
LeeJunFanHealot: yeah, if by working in a different way you mean not working :p03:18
Healotit works03:18
Healotand I hate whiners03:18
LeeJunFanHealot: how did you get it to work? chroot?03:18
Healotand I really mean it works03:19
LeeJunFanCheeseBurgerMan: what is flock?03:19
LeeJunFanerr what the flock is flock?03:19
CheeseBurgerManLeeJunFan: Firefox based browser03:19
CheeseBurgerManhttp://flock.com ;)03:19
LeeJunFanCheeseBurgerMan: hrm, never heard of it.03:19
Cornelliusbah, Opera all the way03:19
Tommy2k4i installed w32codecs and kaffeine plugin still wont play this video03:20
imksafari <303:20
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erovthe libxine-extracodecs ?03:20
LeeJunFanCheeseBurgerMan: heh, looks pretty nice.03:21
CheeseBurgerManhehe, I mostly think so. :)03:22
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LeeJunFanHealot: well that's cool that it works, it's about time amd64 linux could run flash w/o first installing excedrine migraine v1.0 (for newbies anyway).03:22
LeeJunFanTommy2k4: what video?03:23
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Tommy2k4its a wmv03:23
LeeJunFanTommy2k4: ah, one other thing you may need to configure kaffeine/xine to look in the proper dir for the codecs, I think the page says to put them in /usr/local/lib/codecs but xine default is /usr/lib/codecs or something.03:23
Tommy2k4ok03:24
HealotLeeJunFan: you could send regrets to Adobe03:24
LeeJunFanTommy2k4: open kaffeine, go to settings->xine engine->decoder (tab) and set the path to external codecs.03:24
LeeJunFanHealot: regards you mean :) I sent regrets before when it didn't work. hee03:25
HealotLeeJunFan: regrets03:26
Healotpun intended03:26
Tommy2k4looks like theyre already in the right place03:26
Healotby the way, it's third party, the company isn't linux friendly, and I hate whiners03:27
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Tommy2k4jeez all i wanna do is watch some porn b4 i go to bed03:29
Tommy2k4looks like ill have to boot into windows03:29
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LeeJunFanTommy2k4: I haven't run into any wmv's that won't play yet.03:30
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Tommy2k4ill get it working tomorrow03:30
Tommy2k4its 2.30am03:30
LeeJunFanTommy2k4: of course I did mine a little diff, I downloaded straight from mplayers site and untarred to codecs dir.03:31
bernierno it's 9:30 pm :P03:31
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Tommy2k4but first where to i set preferred applications03:31
Tommy2k4do*03:31
dj_perlHello, does anyone know how to get amaroK or kaffeine to produce any sound? I get system sounds, but no sounds from media players. Mixer settings look ok.03:32
LeeJunFanTommy2k4: there are a few ways, you can open konqueror and go to settings and set applications there, or you can right click an icon in konqueror, go to properties, then click the little wrench icon.03:32
Tommy2k4and how come when i right click on a program to click close the click also goes through to gaim and clicks the invite button03:32
bernier!tell dj_perl about restricted modules03:32
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LeeJunFanTommy2k4: I dunno about that one.03:32
dj_perlbernier, restricted modules?03:33
Healot!mp303:33
ubotump3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:33
Tommy2k4i had massive problems with the manual partitioner in the installer03:33
Tommy2k4ill prolly submit them as bugs tomorrow03:33
bernier!tell dj_perl about restricted formats03:33
Healotwell that;s not for mp3 only... it solves most of your multimedia madness03:33
Tommy2k4time for windows03:35
Tommy2k4cya tomorrow ppl03:35
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Healothis tomorrow or my tomorrow?03:36
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dj_perlthanks03:37
Healotdj_perl: notes on amarok03:37
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Healotchange the output device to auto03:38
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KuLoverWhy is it that my my harddrive, when not mounted, shows files. and when mounted, doesnt show files? Anyonw have this problem?03:41
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dj_perlKuLover, do you have files at the mount point?03:48
KuLoverYes03:48
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dj_perlKuLover, so it's possible that the device you're trying to mount has no files. But the mountpoint where you're trying to mount it, does have files. That would explain it.03:50
jasonHello03:50
ChefWillanyone know of a kde applet that will allow you to click on a window thats locked up to kill it?03:50
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KuLoverThat must be it..03:51
RadiantFireChefWill: hit ctrl+alt+esc03:51
RadiantFiresame effect03:52
jasonAnyone in here help a newbi with Adept problem?03:52
boolkaDoes anyone have  Intel 2200 B/G built in wifi card on a laptop and got it working? ( It sees the AP, but wont connect)03:53
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KuLoverdj_perl How would I set a drive to mount as root to where Me, the user can write files to it?03:54
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erovusually the web may be a LOT more helpful as these same questions are asked frequently.. they are quite easy to solve though03:55
jasonI'm a newb trying to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 with Adept03:55
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apokryphos!faq03:56
ubotufaq is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions03:56
apokryphosjason: check there03:56
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bojanmy sound isnt working after upgrading to dapper =[03:56
jasonThanks..03:56
bojaneverything looks ok, except I dont have /proc/sound03:56
apokryphosbojan: alsamixer in terminal -- anything muted?03:57
bojanbut my sound card is listed in lspci03:57
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bojanheadphone is muted03:57
apokryphosPCM and Main both high and up?03:57
bojanTone03:57
bojanmaster is nice03:57
bojanPCM is good03:57
bojani've tried turning all of them up in Kmix03:58
crimsun_you shouldn't have /proc/sound. It's /proc/asound.03:58
apokryphoshm, ok. I've heard one or two others have this problem; I recommend checking launchpad03:58
crimsun_I need the output from ``asoundconf list && amixer'' on pastebin03:59
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bojanls /proc/asound returns: card0  cards  devices  hwdep  Live  modules  oss  pcm  seq  timers  version03:59
bojanls /proc/asound/cards returns: /proc/asound/cards04:00
crimsun_seriously, I'm kinda busy, so please provide the info I asked for, thanks.04:00
dj_perlKuLover, enable the rw option while mounting.04:00
bojansorry i miseed your line04:00
KuLoverdj_perl Im not familiar with enableing rw, how is this done?04:00
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KuLoveris it a line in fstab?04:01
ChefWillanyone know how to get media control to work with xmms?04:01
dj_perlmount -o rw04:01
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KuLoverHow can I edit fstab to do this?04:04
bojanresult of asoundconf list && amixer is at http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70988504:04
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crimsun_bojan: amixer set 'IEC958 Optical Raw' off && amixer set 'Front' on && amixer set 'Wave' 80%,80%,on,on04:06
crimsun_(-> phone)04:07
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bojanok it seems to work04:08
bojancan i ask what did that do exactly04:08
bojan?04:08
dj_perlKuLover, Edit the /etc/fstab and add rw to the options column.04:09
bojanlike what do IEC985 Optical Raw, Front and Wave refer to? because in my KMix, Wave Center, Wave LFE and Wave Surround are still @ 0..?04:10
ChefWillanyone have an applet they use to control xmms from panel?04:11
ChefWill(besides xmms-kde applet)04:11
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bojanwhere do u change kdm theme? also is it possible to change resolution of the login screen?04:13
ChefWilllook in system settings from k menu04:15
KuLoverdj_perl Thank You very much for your help. I looked on "http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html" and learned that "defaults" contains "rw" as a defualt as well as the settings i would like. I think I wil use defaults04:15
dj_perlYou're very welcome. :)04:15
bojani did and i cant find it in there? which category is it in?04:15
ChefWillappearance04:16
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dj_perlOk, where do I find those mp3 codecs again? I'm using Adept to search universe and multiverse repositories. Nada.04:16
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KuLoverdj_perl One more question.. how do I find the device name? (Eg: /dev/sdc/)04:17
dj_perlThe device name for?04:17
KuLoverdj_perl A hard drive04:18
dj_perlls -al /dev/hd*04:18
dj_perl?04:18
bojanIn appearance there is: COlors, Fonts, GTK Styles, Icons, Style, and Window decoration.  Nothing about kdm as far as I can see =[04:18
bojanam i dumb?04:18
RawSewagehow do you install programs on Linux again04:18
RawSewagetaht arent in the repos04:19
RawSewagesunbird-0.3a2.en-US.linux-i68604:19
RawSewagesunbird-0.3a2.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz204:20
RawSewagehow do I install that04:20
KuLoverRawSewage Unpack it to where you would like it to be installed to, then run ./sunbird04:20
RawSewageKuLover, ty04:20
KuLoverIf it doesnt open, run it in terminal and see what libs it requires, then download the packages that contain those libs from the repos04:21
KuLoverYour very welcome04:21
ChefWilldj_perl: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly04:21
ChefWiller04:22
ChefWilllibxine-extracodecs04:22
RawSewageKuLover, it worked, thx04:22
KuLoverYour very welcome :)04:22
dj_perlCan't find libxine-extracodecs in any repository.04:22
KuLoverdj_perl If you still cant get it to work, look here http://wiki.kubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats there is all the info you will need to get it working :)04:23
KuLoverdj_perl , You have to enable the correct repos before you will see those packages, check that link, it tells you how04:23
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dj_perlKuLover, Checked that link. Enabled *all* repositories. Installed libarts1-xine, and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly . Still no sound in amaroK04:30
ChefWillanyone know why i get a bunch of error messages when i open up /etc/network/interfaces in terminal?04:31
ChefWill!paste04:31
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.04:31
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ChefWillhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1573704:32
ChefWillwhen i 'sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces'04:32
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EvilIdlerUse kdesu to run graphical programs, sudo for console04:32
KuLoverdj_perl have you installed libxine-extracodecs?04:33
KuLoverThe one you doenlaoded is for Ubuntu04:33
ChefWilli get even more errors if i do that EvilIdler04:33
KuLoverYou will need the libxine-extracodecs package (Kubuntu)04:34
KuLoverYou still with us dj?04:34
dj_perlYes04:34
EvilIdlerChefWill: What are the error messages?04:34
KuLoverYeah.. just try that.. see what happens04:34
dj_perlCan't find it in any repository.04:34
KuLoverOh.. I see..04:34
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ChefWillhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15737 are the one from sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces04:34
KuLoverYou are on Kubuntu rute?04:34
KuLoverrite?*04:34
dj_perlYes04:34
KuLoverAnd you've followed this? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto#head-3af7264a0e97edbc5bf039e5bdb971f46c43269a04:35
EvilIdlerChefWill: What do you get with kdesu kate?04:35
ChefWillEvilIdler: these: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1573804:36
dj_perlwell, that's for kubuntu 5. i'm on 6.06, using Adept.04:36
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KuLoverFor this part, its the same thing.. the only difference it the URL04:36
soundmaster80is the alternative install the same install as we have been used to?04:37
KuLoverJust enable main/restricted/univers/multiverse on the similar urls as shown in the guidand you should be fine04:37
soundmaster80I'm looking at dl'ing either the desktop CD or the alternative install04:37
apokryphossoundmaster80: /msg ubotu faq04:37
apokryphoslists the distinction04:37
KuLoverYour used to the alternate, sound master.04:38
KuLoverThe desktop CD is the new one.04:38
soundmaster80ah04:38
soundmaster80glad it's not going anywhere04:38
KuLover:)04:38
EvilIdlerChefWill: Have you used Automatix recently?04:38
ChefWill? no04:38
ChefWilli just installed last night04:38
EvilIdlerChefWill: Good. All I can find about the error message is related to people destroying their systems with Automatix, though :P04:39
ChefWill;/04:39
ChefWillbrb04:39
EvilIdlerChefWill: Could you also paste your xorg.conf?04:39
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ChefWillEvilIdler: xorg.conf you say?04:41
EvilIdlerChefWill: Yes04:41
EvilIdlerI dunno what that message *actually* means; it could be from any library KDE relies on :/04:42
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PizmarHi04:42
ChefWillEvilIdler: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1573904:42
EvilIdlerChefWill: Ah, as I suspected :)04:43
dj_perlYeah!!! It worked! Thanks very much KuLover.04:43
ChefWill?04:43
EvilIdlerChefWill: I see THREE (3) entries for a Wacom tablet :)04:43
ChefWill?04:43
ChefWilli dont have a wacom tablet04:43
EvilIdlerChefWill: If you don't have a drawing tablet, delete all three entries :)04:43
KuLoverYour welcome dj_perl! :)04:44
KuLoverGlad it worked for ya!04:44
ChefWillwonder how they got there04:44
PizmarSo, my .mp3s and such.... When I double click them, the respective media player(bmp) opens them, but says something like "cannot play this format"04:44
EvilIdlerChefWill: Sometimes the hardware detection is a bit..optimistic ;)04:44
ChefWilli still get the errors04:45
EvilIdlerChefWill: You need to exit X completely, restart KDM04:46
ChefWillah ye04:46
ChefWills04:46
ChefWillbrb again :P04:46
PizmarAlso, xmms wont work at all04:46
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KuLoverdj_perl, gotta go. see ya04:47
EvilIdlerPizmar: There are at least two more recent projects based on XMMS. beep-media-player is one of them04:47
ChefWillwhatd you say EvilIdler04:47
Pizmarwhats the other?04:48
EvilIdlerChefWill: Nothing yet. But if you still have errors, I'll say "AAARGH!" ;)04:48
ChefWillyea i logged out and in and i still have errors04:48
EvilIdlerPizmar: I don't remember the name, but Beep works fine for me04:48
EvilIdlerChefWill: What errors now?04:48
Pizmarwell...04:49
PizmarWhen I double click my mp3s(or choose open with bmp) bmp opens them, but says something like "cannot play this format"04:49
ChefWillEvilIdler: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1574004:49
EvilIdlerChefWill: Did you delete all three device entries?04:50
ChefWilli think so04:50
ChefWilluea04:51
EvilIdlerPizmar: Have you installed the packages for those restricted formats?04:51
Pizmaryea04:51
ChefWillEvilIdler:  my xorgconf now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1574104:51
PizmarIt works if I drag the file into the playlist.04:51
EvilIdlerChefWill: There's an entry for Synaptics Touchpad, too04:51
ChefWilli have one of those04:51
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EvilIdlerChefWill: Using both mouse and pad?04:53
ChefWillno04:53
ChefWillnever had a mouse04:53
ChefWillwait i should take this out shouldnt i?04:53
EvilIdlerPizmar: Odd. Dunno where to configure that :/04:53
ChefWillInputDevice     "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice     "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"04:54
ChefWillInputDevice     "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"04:54
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EvilIdlerChefWill: The mouse section is probably what you need to take out. Those core events are probably useful for drawing programs04:54
ChefWilllemme logout04:54
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ChefWillgod04:56
ChefWilltook all that stuff out and its still doing it04:56
EvilIdlerUgh!04:56
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ChefWilli took all of that crap out04:58
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EvilIdlerChefWill: Perhaps reconfiguring X can fix it, other than that I dunno05:01
ChefWillhow do i find out what device 168 is05:01
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winbondcan anyone tell me how has the 64bit drivers changed from the 32bit?  or have they pretty much stayed the same, how was it designed to work on 64bit?05:03
EvilIdlerDunno. The device errors can most likely be ignored, anyway, but if the program doesn't start at all, there's something else you can try05:03
winbondanyone using 64bit kubuntu?05:04
EvilIdlerChefWill: Open a konsole and try 'xhost localhost', then run 'kdesu kate'05:04
ChefWillit starts05:04
ChefWillbut its just whyyy are all those happening05:04
ChefWillsame05:04
CheeseBurgerManwinbond: I am, why?05:04
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winbondCheeseBurgerMan: i just wanna know how its working05:05
winbondim about to install it05:05
EvilIdlerChefWill: If you run a few Gnome programs from a console, you'll see far more warnings/failures than that ;)05:05
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ChefWillwell i always ran gedit from it and never got errors05:06
EvilIdlerChefWill: There are some that give pagefulls of warnings. Even programs I make and ensure all data is available for can come up with a bunch of warnings :)05:06
CheeseBurgerManwinbond: Well, it's works for what I need it to do. :)05:06
ChefWillyea oh well05:06
EvilIdlerChefWill: Some warnings merely exist to inform you of missing features, not broken features05:06
ChefWilli guess ill just concentrate on stuff that doesnt work05:07
RawSewagehow can I configure Konqueror so when I right click a folder, it gives me the option to add all mp3 in that folder to amarok playlist05:07
ChefWillyou know how i can not make kdewallet prompt for pass everytime kmail starts?05:07
winbondCheeseBurgerMan: what do u need it to do?05:07
winbondCheeseBurgerMan: can i watch porn in 64bits at least?05:07
CheeseBurgerManwinbond: Don't watch videos on here, I've heard not, but haven't really looked into it.05:08
CheeseBurgerManI don't use really use my computer for videos -- that's what the TV's for. ;)05:08
winbondCheeseBurgerMan: is it stable at least?05:08
CheeseBurgerManYes, it's stable.05:08
EvilIdlerChefWill: Actually, removing the core events options from xorg.conf should remove those warnings05:09
winbondalrighty , im gonna give it a go05:09
ChefWilli did05:09
ChefWillwell from the tablet and mouse05:09
EvilIdlerChefWill: Did you ctrl-alt-backspace to really exit X?05:09
CheeseBurgerManwinbond: OK. Enjoy. :)05:09
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winbondCheeseBurgerMan: thanks05:09
ChefWilli logged out05:09
EvilIdlerChefWill: Remove the ones at the bottom of the xorg.conf05:09
EvilIdlerChefWill: Logging out is not restarting X05:09
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RawSewagenm, I figured it out05:11
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winbondwhats that mod that will make the menu icons enlarge when you hover a pointer over it?05:11
ChefWillhrm, less errors now EvilIdler05:12
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ChefWillEvilIdler: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1574405:12
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EvilIdlerChefWill: If you have scim installed, try removing it05:13
chavoChefWill, is that running kde apps with sudo?05:14
ChefWillyea05:14
chavoI think scim removes kubuntu-desktop05:14
EvilIdlerkubuntu-desktop is just a dependency package05:14
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chavoI know05:14
gman_I'm trying to use adept updater but get an error "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." Any ideas?05:14
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ChefWillscim isnt installed EvilIdler05:14
gman_using dapper05:15
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ChefWillah no errors with kdesu EvilIdler :)05:15
EvilIdlerWoo05:15
ChefWillnow help me figure out how to not have kdewallet prompt me everytime kontact or kmail starts :P05:16
chavoChefWill, I did it, but forgot how :(05:16
EvilIdlerI don't use that :P05:16
EvilIdlerToo paranoid.05:16
ChefWillcause having kmail remember my password is pointless if i have to enter it for kde wallet05:16
HobbseeChefWill: go into kdewallet, tell it to use a blank password05:16
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winbondwhat can i use to do a md5 check in kubuntu?05:26
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CaBlGuYwuttup peeps..05:27
chavowinbond, md5sum filename05:28
CaBlGuYanyone know of a decent alt. distro I can use to install on my windows drive..05:28
chavoCaBlGuY, alt?05:28
winbondnice, ty05:28
CaBlGuYyea, alternate distro05:28
CaBlGuYI got Ubuntu on this drive already...05:28
chavohave you tried any others?05:29
CaBlGuYI'm not returning to windowz and lookin for somethin I can put on that drive05:29
CaBlGuYchavo: I have. Suse 10.1 but I don't like it.. and Arklinux but it crashes..05:29
chavoI was going to suggest suse, I treid it too but it wasn't the same05:30
CaBlGuYchavo:  nope, and support sux..05:30
chavowell there's fedora core or mandriva for the newvie type distros05:30
CaBlGuYI really like Ubuntu but, I already got it on here..  I like to switch it up every once in a while anyway...05:30
chavonewbie05:30
CaBlGuYhave u used Gentoo??05:31
chavono05:31
chavoI've used a lot of distros, my first was redhat 5.005:31
CaBlGuYI've heard some good stuff about it but I can't ever get it to install right..  :/05:31
winbondtry linspire05:32
CaBlGuYWUSSAT?05:32
CaBlGuY!linspire05:33
ubotuCaBlGuY: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:33
CaBlGuYHmm :/05:33
winbondgoogle05:33
CaBlGuYok..05:33
ChefWillaw man05:33
ChefWilldont you hate when you accientally extract a file containing a bunch of files to desktop instead of to a folder on desktop :P05:34
winbondyup that sucks05:34
CaBlGuYLOL05:34
CaBlGuYyep, not good..05:34
CaBlGuYu should be payin closer attention..  ;)05:34
ChefWill:P05:34
ChefWillim watching tv05:34
winbondespecially when you have 100 files in the zip file05:34
ChefWillmythbusters05:34
Hobbseehaha yeah - then you just use the console to move them all back :P05:34
ChefWillwinbond: try 500~05:35
winbondyeah , not good05:35
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CaBlGuYjoin #freespire05:36
CaBlGuYoops..  :p05:36
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ChefWillwhy does kbear crash whenever you try and move/copy a file :(05:39
ChefWillits such a nicely designed program - yet it cant to essentials05:39
CaBlGuYHmm   dunno about any kbear there ChefWill saawwwree..05:40
ChefWillits a ncie program but it wont let you download or move/copy ANY files05:40
ChefWillit crashes05:40
CaBlGuYwhat is it exactly?05:41
chavowell how nice is it if it doesn't do it's job :P05:41
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CaBlGuYLOL good point chavo..05:41
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winbondChefWill: is there anything that starts with K that doesnt randomly crash?05:42
CaBlGuYLOL  @ winbond..  now THAT'S FUNNY...05:43
CaBlGuY;)05:43
HobbseeChefWill: i've never had kbear crash - did you run it thru gdb?05:44
ChefWill?05:44
LeeJunFanwinbond: they don't crash they krash!05:44
winbondwell , i just go the Kget , been using it only for like 4 hours and i had prabably 5 crashes, average 1 an hour i guess,  pretty bad ratio05:45
ChefWillHobbsee: ?05:46
winbondkrash and burn , maybe the 64bit os wil be better05:46
CaBlGuYhehe   Kkkkkeeeeerraaaassh...05:47
HobbseeChefWill: install gdb, type gdb kbear, enter, run, and then do the same thing that you were doing to make it crash before05:47
CaBlGuY;)05:47
ChefWillhrmm05:47
Hobbseeif it's SIGSEIV'ing anyway, you can copy the backtrace, and file a bug report05:47
ChefWillill love you if this fixes it Hobbsee05:47
Hobbseeit wont, but it might give some indication to what is wrong...05:47
ChefWilla lot of people have told me same problem05:48
HobbseeChefWill: is there a bug report?05:48
winbondis anyone here running software raid0?05:49
ChefWillhold on running thru gdb05:49
ChefWillWARNING: KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file kbeartoolsplugin.rc05:49
ChefWillWARNING: KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file kbearsitemanagerui.rc05:49
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Hobbsee!bug05:50
ubotubugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs05:50
ChefWillkbear isnt in production anymore i dont think05:50
ChefWillKCrash: Application 'kbear' crashing...05:51
ChefWillSignal 11 SIGSEGV05:51
HobbseeChefWill: you might want to add it to the end of https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kbear/+bug/2991505:51
Hobbseethat whole error thing that you get05:51
ChefWillno real error05:51
Hobbseeoh, which version of kbear is this?05:52
ChefWillum05:52
ChefWilli just dl'd lemme look05:52
ChefWill2.105:52
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ErtainEven though I've set up "sudoers", I still have to type in my password (under kdesu) just to use Adept.05:55
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Sc[_] ttgreetings all05:58
Healothello kubuntuans05:58
Sc[_] ttummm, can i mount my linux partition from winblows?05:58
Sc[_] tthi Healot05:59
AngryElfhow do i switch window managers?05:59
HealotWindows, you mean? Sc[_] tt?05:59
HobbseeSc[_] tt: yeah, there's a driver, or use explore2fs05:59
Sc[_] ttyes Healot05:59
Healotby default, no, but there are lots of 3rd party applications to do that05:59
chavoSc[_] tt, it can be done yes06:00
Healotfor example, Partition Magic 8.006:00
HealotRlinux etc...06:00
Sc[_] ttk chavo, and thanks hobbsee i'll look that up06:00
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Sc[_] ttthanks Healot06:00
chavothe driver gave me bluescreens though06:00
ErtainHow can I just use Adept without having to type in my password?  I've set up sudoers and that didn't help.06:00
Sc[_] tti've heard and read explore2fs is stable, i just couldn't remember name06:01
Sc[_] tthopefully i'll be rid of windows totally as soon as i get a few little apps working on linux06:02
Sc[_] ttthen there will be a huge party06:02
chavoSc[_] tt, explore2fs works well06:03
Healotbtw06:03
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ErtainNo know knows about using "sudoers" and "kdesu"?  Figures.  I can never find people who know what I need. :-(06:04
Healotsudoers is the file for the user/group that can use "sudo"06:04
Healotkdesu is the graphical "su" for KDE, typically to run KDE GUI application06:04
Sc[_] ttErtain: i've found that when i ask, sometimes people are actually spending a lot of looking for the answer for me... try to be patient, people here go way above and beyond to try to help06:04
Sc[_] ttlot of *time06:05
ErtainI wonder how to set up kdesu.  On to the manual.06:05
winbondi think there should be more projects to consolidate developers of the same kind of programs to make one or 2 good ones in each category instead of 20 apps that do same thing and suk06:05
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ErtainOh, how right you are, winbond.06:06
HealotErtain: man sudoers06:06
chavoI think people should be free to do whatever they want06:06
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chavoespecially when writing free software06:06
ErtainTrouble is, it's either because the people don't have enough time, the project isn't that important, or people are just too egotistical to help the project.06:06
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Healotwhat project?06:07
ErtainAny project.06:07
winbondyeah , im not saying anything against free , but lets get organized and put out something that rockz06:08
Healotjoin one if you like, Ertain06:08
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ErtainYou're right, winbond.  But it's quite hard to do this stuff.  Usually the people need the know-how and the will to help.06:09
Sc[_] tthave a good night all, thanks for the suggestion, i found what i needed06:09
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AngryElfguys, in installed kubuntu desktop and it seemed to work out alright, when I first boot up the login screen works fine, but if I log out from a session it goes black and I can't do anything....crtl+alt+f1/2/3... doesn't do anything either06:13
AngryElfany ideas?06:13
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KaiserSuseAngryElf: what's your graphics chipset/card?06:15
winbondctrl alt backspace to restart x06:15
AngryElfATI06:15
AngryElfit worked fine with gnome06:15
winbonddid youget the fglrx drivers?06:15
AngryElfdo i have to do it again for KDE?06:15
winbonddont know byt maybe you should reconfigure the x server06:16
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AngryElfisn't the X server independent of kdm/gdm kde/gnome?06:16
chavoAngryElf, yes06:16
AngryElfso it's probably not the X server?06:16
chavono06:17
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KaiserSuseAngryElf: and your box still answers on the network? Like ping?06:17
AngryElfer....i dunno06:17
AngryElfdidn't try that06:17
winbondits something to do with the video driver i think06:17
winbondmy ati card also crashes a lot when i log out06:17
AngryElfi'll check the ping thing....i'll probably have to reboot06:17
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AngryElfbrb06:17
KaiserSuseAngryElf: and how do you recover from the blank screen?06:18
winbondi just reset the pc06:18
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AngryElfso last we chatted i was in 1024x728, and I logged out and everything was fine.....log back in, switch to what'd i'd prefer (and shouldn't have problems with) 1280x1024, log out and get my blank screen06:23
AngryElfthis time I logged in -- kicker crashed, try to start it up manually and it crashes again06:23
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AngryElfand to whoever asked it -- I fix the black screen by a hard reset06:23
obscuriteis anyone here connecting to a hidden 802.11b network with an atheros wifi card?06:24
obscurite(on dapper preferably)06:24
KaiserSuseAngryElf: and how do you change resolutions?06:24
AngryElfkcontrol06:24
AngryElfer, no i dont06:25
AngryElfwhatever the system settings is on the K menu, which I can't get to now cause i dont have a panel cause kicker is dead06:25
AngryElfand i'm not all that familiar with kde yet to remeber what it's called06:25
Hobbseesystem settings, or kcontrol06:27
HobbseeAngryElf: kicker died?06:27
AngryElfsystem settings?06:27
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Hobbseetry alt+f2, kicker06:27
AngryElfyes, kicker is currently dead06:27
AngryElftried that06:27
AngryElfdies again06:27
Hobbseeah...06:27
Hobbseedefine "dies" - did it freeze, or just disappear06:27
AngryElfcrashed - KDE crash handler popped up06:28
AngryElfbacktrace doesn't show much06:28
AngryElf#27 0xb7f12362 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so06:28
AngryElf#28 0xb7c84ea2 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.606:28
AngryElf#29 0x080483b1 in ?? ()06:28
Hobbseemmm okay.  weird06:28
KaiserSuseAngryElf: have you customized much your KDE? You could always delete ~/.kde and start over06:28
AngryElflast 3 lines06:28
Hobbseeuse pastebin for it06:28
AngryElfyea, it's all blue and sweet, yea sorry06:28
AngryElfyou want the whole thing?06:28
AngryElfit's much the same, no errors06:28
HobbseeAngryElf: yeah, we'll see if it makes sense06:28
AngryElfhttp://pastebin.com/71003006:29
AngryElfwhat's the command to open a terminal?06:29
chavokonaole06:29
chavokonsole06:29
chavowoops06:29
AngryElfwhat command opens system settings?06:30
chavoAngryElf, do this in konsole -> KDEHOME=~/kdetes kicker06:30
AngryElfgot my bottom panel back up06:31
chavosystemsettings06:31
AngryElfbut it's not configed the way I had it06:31
chavoAngryElf, that gave you a whole new configuration, so it's default06:31
chavoI think it may be one of the applets crashing kicker06:32
AngryElfis that a temporary thing, or will it reset to my old config06:32
chavoyes it's temporary06:32
AngryElfbrb06:32
chavoyou can always do that instead or removing your .kde folder06:32
Hobbseeeek, no idea06:33
chavoit's either an applet or maybe an app in the sytray06:33
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AngryElfk, switched to 1152x864, logged out, nothin -- ping/ssh to this box works across the network -- rebooted, kicker didn't die at this resolutiion06:36
chavowierd06:37
AngryElfnothin = blank screen, can't do anything06:37
AngryElfweird06:37
AngryElf:)06:37
chavo-)06:37
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AngryElfi bet it totally has to do with the upgrade process06:38
AngryElfif i did a fresh install it'd work fine06:38
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AngryElfis there some config file that controls the resolution of the login screen?06:39
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chavono it should use the resolution in xorg.conf06:39
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AngryElfhmm, how do i switch back to gdm? maybe it's that06:40
HobbseeAngryElf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm?06:40
chavosudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm06:40
chavoeither one will work06:40
ErtainHello once again, everyone. I'm trying to figure out how to make kdesu remember my password.  Whenever I choose Adept from the menu, kdesu pops up.06:40
AngryElfbrb06:40
HobbseeErtain: i'm not sure that you can...06:42
Hobbseeunless you were to  log in as root...06:42
ErtainFigures. :-(06:42
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winbonddoes the ati fglrx driver work with the 64bit kubuntu?06:51
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Healotyes06:55
Healotthe same procedure with few exceptions06:55
winbondwhich exceptions?06:55
Healotyup06:56
winbondim about to install it , wanna make sure i can use it06:56
Healotas explained in this06:56
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Healot!ati06:56
ubotuhttp://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide06:56
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Healotwinbond: using the stock kernel driver or ATi official installer?06:56
winbondthe apt-get fglrx06:57
Healotok06:57
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Healotwould be easier then06:57
winbondok , thanks you06:58
winbondthank06:58
winbondyou06:58
Healotjust follow throughly, missing a step could make you mad :)06:59
Healotjust ask if problems pop up06:59
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winbondok , im off to get this thing installed07:00
winbondanyone running software raid0 by any chance?07:00
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NeoChaosXhey07:03
NeoChaosXdoes anyone know of a way to have seperate views for Konqueror's file browsing and web browsing?07:04
NeoChaosXer, seperate windows rather07:04
ChefWill!flash07:05
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:05
ChefWillwhats the name of flash plugin for dapper?07:06
NeoChaosXflashplayer-nonfree07:06
ChefWillthe one on that man isnt right07:06
NeoChaosXthey changed the name of the package in dapper for some reason07:07
Hobbseechange the wiki then?07:07
ChefWillE: Couldn't find package flashplayer-nonfree07:08
NeoChaosXChefWill: do you have multiverse enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list07:08
NeoChaosX?07:08
ChefWillyep07:08
NeoChaosXdid an apt-get update?07:09
ChefWillyep07:09
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NeoChaosXwell, that's funny07:09
NeoChaosXfirst off: I was wrong, it should be flashplugin-nonfree07:09
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ChefWill.l: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree07:10
NeoChaosXThat's weird07:10
HobbseeChefWill: got multiverse enabled?07:10
ChefWillwhat they do07:10
ChefWillyessss07:10
NeoChaosXYou sure? Sounds like you may only have multiverse enabled on a few lines, not all of them07:11
HobbseeChefWill: pastebin your repos please?   there should be a " multiverse" after every universe07:11
ChefWilli promise i have multiverse enabled07:11
ChefWillits not there07:12
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HobbseeChefWill: can we check it please?  :P07:12
ChefWillyou can search for it?07:12
Hobbseeyeah, it's shown here07:12
Hobbseeso it is in the repos - unless yours are out of sync or something07:12
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ChefWill!sources07:12
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.07:12
ChefWillsomething musta messed up my sources07:14
AngryElfi'm sorry to say this, but insatlling kubuntu-desktop has calused a world of hurt -- how do i get rid of it07:14
AngryElfmaybe one day i'll try out a fresh install, but i dont want to bother with this :(07:14
ChefWillfresh install is only way to go imo07:14
AngryElfusually is07:14
AngryElfobviously removing kubuntu-desktop doesn't do the trick.....what will?07:15
EvilIdlerUpgrade worked for me, then upgrade to 3.5.307:15
ChefWillAngryElf:  log out click session options change to gnome07:15
AngryElfugh, i can't log out07:15
ChefWillwhy07:15
HobbseeAngryElf: removing libqt3-mt07:15
AngryElfhence "world of hurt"07:15
ChefWillfresh install ;)07:15
EvilIdlerctrl-alt-backspace07:15
AngryElfgood question07:15
HobbseeAngryElf: or just reinstall, either way.  upgrades sometimes work, sometimes dont.07:15
AngryElfthanx Hobbsee, i appreciate your help :)07:16
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ChefWillany idea how id get kwallet to stop prompting me for pass for kmail/kontact everytime i load it?07:16
AngryElfi'm in gdm + gnome now and still can't log out from a session and get a working login page -- i hope this works07:16
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billy2willyk, so I already have an install and I'm at a loss as to how to tell the partitioner on the live cd how to use the drives I have..07:29
billy2willyand how come there isn't a reiserfs option for formatting?07:30
billy2willylame...07:30
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EvilIdlerReiser took ages to mount for me, so I switched to JFS07:31
billy2willyyah, but I don't care how long it takes if it's a file server.07:31
billy2willyI just want to tell the installer to use the partitions I already have an use reiserfs... this is pretty lame guys...07:32
EvilIdlerI had the option in Breezy, so it's strange if Reiser has gone missing in Dapper07:33
billy2willythe installer is a livecd now.07:33
billy2willyhow do I force the livecd to use the good ole blue ncurses installer?07:33
defryskdownload the alternative cd07:34
defryskand use that07:34
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billy2willyoh wait. maybe this isn't as sucky as I thought.07:35
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billy2willyit's not obvious the the mount points are set on the following page. just looks like I'm destroying my partitions. that should all be on one page.07:37
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HealotChefWill: show us your /etc/apt/sources.list file :)07:39
ChefWill...07:39
ChefWillkinda hard when you leave right after you ask07:40
ChefWill+ i fixed it like 20min ago07:40
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EvilIdlerRemote closed = something crashed/net dropped etc.07:40
orient2000I did try to edit sources.list but it said I do not have permision to write. I am the only user. Where can I change my permision?07:41
EvilIdlerorient2000: sudo is your friend, or kdesu07:41
defryskorient2000, use sudo07:41
defrysk!tell orient2000 about sudo07:41
orient2000How should I use sudo?07:42
orient2000defrysk: thanks for tip.07:42
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ChefWillEvilIdler: where you talking to me?07:47
ChefWillsaid just left on mine07:47
EvilIdlerChefWill: I see messages in parenthesis with a more specific quit reason on everyone07:47
EvilIdlerIRC has a hundred ways to say "linkdead" :)07:48
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nomad111hi all just installed kubuntu07:57
TheHighChildhi nomad11107:58
nomad111i was wondering if i can use a second monitor07:58
nomad111and extend my desktop to it07:58
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nomad111can i do that in kubuntu07:58
TheHighChildnomad111: Sorry, I can't help you there. I am pretty sure the wiki or the forums have something on it07:58
nomad111ok how do u install programs is it: sudo apt-get install <program>07:59
EvilIdlerThat would be Xinerama or something, wouldn't it?08:00
Hawkwindnomad111: If you have an Nvidia card you can do twinview with the nvidia drivers08:00
nomad111i got a crappy intel onboard graphics car08:00
nomad111card*08:00
HawkwindThen no08:01
nomad111lol08:01
EvilIdlerCan your *hardware* do dual monitors?08:01
HawkwindNo onboard can08:01
nomad111yes08:01
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nomad111i can do it windows08:01
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Hawkwindnomad111: You have two monitor hookups ?08:02
Lesiukwelcome ;)08:02
nomad111im using a laptop with a serial port08:02
nomad111and i hav a crt monitor08:02
Hawkwindnomad111: You'd have to find intel drivers, and that's going to be tough08:02
nomad111lol i kno wat u mean08:02
nomad111does any1 kno of a mathematical program called matlab by the way08:03
Healotit's at intel.com08:03
TheHighChildnomad111: 1: You need to have dual video outputs. 2: You have to have the drivers to support that under linux08:03
nomad111ye i kno dont worry about its useless anyway08:04
TheHighChildnomad111: Matlab is going to cost you a lot of loot08:04
nomad111i kno08:04
nomad111there was one program i used called octave08:04
nomad111it was free08:04
nomad111but in fedora08:04
EvilIdlerA student copy of Matlab isn't too expensive08:04
nomad111i dunno wat there is in ubuntu/debian08:04
nomad111im not actually look for matlab im looking for octave08:04
TheHighChildsudo apt-get install octave08:04
TheHighChilduse adept if you want a gui08:04
TheHighChildAlso, you may need to enable some repos to get it08:04
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nomad111doesnt exist08:05
nomad111ahh yes repos08:05
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TheHighChildhold on, I'll look a bit08:05
nomad111where is synaptic lol08:05
nomad111im completely new to this os08:05
TheHighChildnomad111: Octave is in the Universe08:06
nomad111where is synaptic or watever08:06
nomad111where do i enable repos08:06
TheHighChild!repos08:06
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.08:06
TheHighChildI don't know anything about synaptic, sorry08:07
nomad111lol this is ubuntu wiki doesnt completely relate to kubuntu08:08
TheHighChildEverything about Kubuntu and Ubuntu are the same except for the windowing system08:08
EvilIdlerKubuntu uses Ubuntu repositories.08:08
TheHighChildAside from KDE for Kubuntu and Gnome for Ubuntu, there is no difference08:08
Healotit's not even a fork08:09
TheHighChildYou can probably install synaptic also if you want08:09
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exceswaterhi all08:11
exceswatergood morning :D08:11
TheHighChildhey exceswater08:11
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orient2000How can I open private chanel to talk to someone?08:13
TheHighChildYou can do /msg <name> but only if you're registered08:13
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Healotto open a private query window08:14
Healottype /query $nickname message08:14
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orient2000query Healot testing00108:15
orient2000query $Healot test00108:16
EvilIdlerIf you're using a reasonably modern IRC client, a simple /msg does the trick in a separate window08:16
orient2000nothing08:16
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TheHighChildorient2000: You need a forward slash '/query TheHighChild test' without the apostraphes08:17
Healotor just click right on the nick list, there should be a query menu08:18
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orient2000I do not have nick list on a right, I used to before.08:19
TheHighChildWhat client are you using?08:20
exceswaterhello back08:20
orient2000Konversation08:20
exceswaterwho can tell me some nice mods for wolfenstein et08:20
TheHighChildexceswater: GLAD YOU ASKED08:20
TheHighChildHold one one sec08:20
exceswater:d08:21
TheHighChildexceswater: ETpub is the going standard right now. It's a good pub mod. ETpro is a comp mod and pretty serious. I like being a pubstar so I play etpub08:21
exceswater:D08:21
TheHighChildexceswater: A couple of friends have made a mod called No Quarter, we are Beta testing now. Additional weapons, etc08:22
TheHighChilddouble as many classes08:22
exceswateretpub is a mod i understand :D ?08:22
TheHighChildyes08:22
exceswaterone stupid question08:22
exceswater:D08:22
TheHighChildOr do you mena a full conversion mod like real combar elite?08:22
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exceswateris there a mod what doesn't need to be played online ?08:22
exceswatersomething like counter strike.... to add bots ... or single player ?08:22
TheHighChildno single player.08:23
TheHighChildSome servers have bots, We have one up now08:23
chavoexceswater, there's omnibot and another one. but I've never tried them08:23
TheHighChildbut they suck08:23
exceswateraha08:23
exceswateri found etpub08:23
TheHighChildorient2000: on the right side of Konversation, make sure you didn't pull the bar all the way to the right,08:24
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TheHighChildare you new to ET exceswater?08:25
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exceswateri am new to linux :d08:25
exceswaterand to et "D08:25
TheHighChildET is Win/Mac/Tux08:25
TheHighChildnice08:25
TheHighChildYou might undergo some sound problems08:25
TheHighChildbut they can be worked out08:25
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TheHighChildDo you have a microphone?08:26
orient2000I did not.08:26
exceswateri have :D08:26
exceswateruntil no... no problems... with et08:26
TheHighChildorient2000: press ctrl + H08:26
exceswateronly when i had to install08:26
exceswater:d08:26
TheHighChildexceswater: Want me to take you under my wing and make you barrel?08:27
exceswateri am so noob08:27
exceswateryup :D08:27
orient2000Names are there thanks.08:27
TheHighChildYou want to get Teamspeak and we can chat?08:27
exceswateryes08:27
exceswatertell me the link08:27
exceswaterand how to install it :d08:27
TheHighChildnp orient2000 I just learned myself. I am new to IRC08:27
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TheHighChildexceswater: http://goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads&id=2a08:28
orient200002:28]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) I guess I have to register. thanks a lot. Have a nice day. James.08:29
TheHighChildorient2000: registering is very easy, check it out08:29
exceswaterok08:29
exceswateri am downloading it right now08:29
exceswatertell me how can i install that mod08:29
exceswateretpub08:30
exceswateri downloaded it08:30
TheHighChildok, where do you want to install this to?08:30
TheHighChildWhere have you installed ET?08:30
exceswaterin home/user/games/wolfenstein08:30
exceswatersomething like that08:31
exceswateri have to unzip it to same folder ?>08:31
TheHighChildexceswater:  in /usr/local/games/enemy-territory? or what you said?08:31
TheHighChildDo you use the command line?08:31
TheHighChildThat's what I use and can best give instructions on08:31
TheHighChildit's pretty easy, like 4 commands or less08:32
exceswateri unziped it in the same directory where et in installed :D08:32
exceswateris that ok ?08:32
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TheHighChildshould be fine. Hopefully it's in your $PATH08:32
exceswaterit's there08:32
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exceswaternow i wait to have teamspeak08:33
exceswater:D08:33
exceswaterit's 70%08:33
exceswater:D08:33
TheHighChildok, if it's unzipped. Open up konsole and cd to the directory you've unzipped it08:33
exceswaterk08:33
TheHighChild70%?08:33
exceswaterk08:33
TheHighChildWhat does 70% mean?08:34
exceswateryou are talking about et mod or TEAM SPEAK08:34
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exceswaterdownload for team speak is 90 % ok08:34
exceswaterit has 10 %  more and it's done08:34
exceswater:D08:34
TheHighChildoh ok08:34
exceswaterfor etpub08:34
exceswaterif it's not any more command08:34
exceswateri think i just have to install it from the game08:35
exceswater:D08:35
exceswaterok08:35
exceswaterteam speak done08:35
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exceswaterone little thing08:36
TheHighChildare you registered on freenode exceswater?08:36
exceswatertell me how can i make a shortcut to a program on my desktop in kubuntu08:36
exceswateri am registered08:36
exceswater:d08:36
exceswatercome to prv08:36
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TheHighChildin konsole you can 'cd' into ~/Desktop and type 'ln -s /location/of/the/file/you/want/to/link'08:37
orient2000I just wanted you to know thay sell Ubuntu wine in Toronto. It cost 11.00 c$. It is wine from South Africa. I hope you find it interesting. Have a nice day. James.08:37
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CaptainMorgan_ooh la la - breezy gave me so many headaches... kubuntu dapper makes it easy08:38
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CaptainMorgan_wireless is a beaut08:38
hangfiredoes anyone have problems getting the "edit bookmarks" to work in Konversation IRC client?08:40
nixternalworks for me hangfire08:40
CaptainMorgan_what exactly do you bookmark? urls?08:40
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hangfirenix- dang, I might have to uninstall/reinstall then08:41
hangfireno, the bookmarks for IRC channels08:41
TheHighChilda bit drastic eh hangfire?08:41
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hangfirewell I have to clean out my bookmarks08:41
CaptainMorgan_what do you have bookmarked?08:41
CaptainMorgan_channels?08:41
hangfireyes, my fav IRC channels08:42
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CaptainMorgan_I don't get the point of the bookmark in a Irc... oh..08:42
hangfirethats why I like Konvesation, its a good simple IRC client08:42
CaptainMorgan_pretty satisfied here too08:42
TheHighChildmy options for adding bookmarks are greyed out08:42
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hangfireso you can switch IRC channels fast, you dont have to type them into the command line08:42
FHXCould someone help? My Kubuntu won't recognize/read any USB devices plugged in08:42
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FHXWith the exception of the mouse and keyboard08:43
FHX=_=08:43
CaptainMorgan_hmm I don't usually switch in and out....I usually have a the autoconnect to my top 10-1508:43
_keffoOy people..  Any suggestions why the desktop is unresponsive? There is nothing there, and rightclicking does nada..?08:43
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CaptainMorgan_any more than that I can't keep track..08:43
FHXo.O anybody know how I can fix this stupid USB problem?08:43
_keffounresponsive might have been a bad choice of word.. 'disabled' might fit better :)08:44
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FHX.___.08:44
word_keffo: Meh...stop saying word ;p08:44
_keffoword up08:45
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Healotdefine "stupid"08:46
ChefWillanyone got a min to help me figure out whats wrong with my wifi? :o08:46
hangfireyou might have your desktop locked08:46
CaptainMorgan_my wireless is working word!08:46
ChefWillmines nto08:46
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ChefWillnot sure why either08:46
wordCaptainMorgan_: yay08:46
_keffohangfire: how? desktop icons are enabled if that's what u mean08:46
hangfirewell if you click the log out window there is a lock screen option08:47
_keffohangfire: It's a fresh install too, done nothing more than update, no reboot yet, for example08:47
hangfiremaybe you clicked that by mistake08:47
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_keffono, everything works fine, except the desktop 'surface' is dead.08:47
hangfireoh08:48
ChefWillmy wifi card has extensions in iwconfig, yet t doesnt seem to be working08:48
_keffonothing in /desktop/ ends up there, and no rightclick, and also no selection-rect etc.08:48
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CaptainMorgan_ChefWill: mine worked magically through WLan assistant08:50
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hangfirekeffo, do you have any programs running in the background? type ps into your console08:50
ChefWilllucky08:50
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ChefWillmines showing up what appears to be right, its just not working08:50
_keffohangfire: and?08:50
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_keffohangfire: pretty empty I'd say08:50
hangfireok, then its not a background process08:51
_keffoLike I said, i've installed, updated, then konversation is all i've done. :)08:51
CaptainMorgan_that's what i said too... there's more to it.. keep digging08:52
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_keffohangfire: Actually, now that I think about it, kdesktop crashed the very first thing after the install... might be related. :)08:52
RawSewagetj9991,  we need you idling at #Boringville08:53
hangfirewow, a desktop crash, havent heard about that08:53
Cornelliusno bsod at least08:53
_keffoI also get "cpu overload, aborting", when I click Apply, after changing the time.. :)08:54
Cornelliuscpu overload ??08:54
RawSewagetj9991, you there, Champ??08:54
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CornelliusMan, TiMidity really likes the CPU08:55
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_keffoAll sorts of funky stuff happened when I installed the x64 release on a dualcore athlon too..08:55
_keffobrb, gonna restart and see if the desktop wakes up08:55
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CaptainMorgan_possible to make System Menu/Home Folder a separate link and place it in a panel?08:56
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CaptainMorgan_err.. so I can place it in a panel?08:57
hangfireyes it is08:58
CaptainMorgan_how?08:58
hangfirego to places menu and right click on the icon08:58
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CaptainMorgan_'places' ?08:59
hangfirewhoops, Im on gnome ubuntu08:59
hangfirejust right click on the home icon where ever that is on KDE09:00
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CaptainMorgan_aye... knew how to do it in gnome... if anyone knows please tell... hangfire that doesn't work09:00
CaptainMorgan_not in my kde at least...09:00
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kepleryep, exactly that was the problem. :(09:01
CaptainMorgan_right clicking actually opens the place just as the left would09:01
keplerI mean :)!09:01
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ChefWilli just cant seem to get right wifi settings for our network09:02
hangfireright click on the desktop toolbar, I think there is an icon config there09:02
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Ashexhow would I go about getting kubuntu to detect a gigabit card I just installed?09:03
CaptainMorgan_shoul09:03
CaptainMorgan_d09:03
ChefWillyou talking to me?09:03
ChefWilloh awesome, a dead body found 2 miles from me ;o09:03
wordhmmm...do pretzals go bad?09:03
CaptainMorgan_word - no09:04
wordCaptainMorgan_: Good lol...09:04
CaptainMorgan_ChefWill: keep your mouth shut...09:04
CaptainMorgan_:)09:04
ChefWillnot really09:05
ChefWillas long as they dont go stale09:05
ChefWilldangit, now thers no wifi networks listed09:06
CaptainMorgan_omg.. kde's icon list is huge09:06
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mrmistHi guys... need some help09:06
mrmistI can't remember what small application to use to display all the "input" messages going to "X"...09:07
mrmistI need to reconfigure some multimedia keys on my laptop09:07
mrmistAnyone remember how ?09:07
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PyroMithrandirmrmist, xev09:09
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mrmistPyroMithrandir: Thanks :)09:09
PyroMithrandirfor X EVents :)09:09
mrmistargh09:09
mrmistThe keys don't show in it...09:09
PyroMithrandirah, that's too bad09:10
mrmistwhat do I do now then ?09:10
mrmistDo I need som special drivers for my keyboard ?09:10
PyroMithrandirwell, google for it, see if you can find any09:10
PyroMithrandirbut you might just be out of luck09:10
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PyroMithrandirI've got a couple buttons on my mouse that I can't use because they don't show up in xev09:11
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ErtainFor some strange reason, I have the window contents, but no window decorations.  I don't have minimize buttons, title, nothing.09:13
ErtainBtw, I'm using Kubuntu.09:13
PyroMithrandirErtain, you using xgl by chance?09:13
ErtainNope.09:13
pascal_Has anybody had any problems with the clock of the computere being set 7 minnutes forward of the real time everytime you restart?09:13
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PyroMithrandirErtain, do they come back if you log in and out?09:14
PyroMithrandirand do they show up in other accounts?09:14
mrmistThing is though... the volume keys don't work in windows wither09:14
mrmisteither09:14
ErtainThough I was trying to make Skim work.  I looked on their website and tried to follow their directions.09:15
PyroMithrandirpascal_, you might want to check your BIOS clock is set 7 minutes ahead09:15
PyroMithrandirwell, mrmist, I hate to break it to you, but you're probably out of luck09:15
pascal_ok, shouldn't kubutu set my BIOS clock automatically though?09:15
mrmistPyroMithrandir: hehe.... I know09:16
mrmistjust wanted to hear anyway09:16
mrmista but sad though09:16
PyroMithrandirwell, it might, I don't remember, pascal_, but it might not09:16
PyroMithrandirmrmist, you can set volume elsewhere09:16
PyroMithrandiruse kmix09:16
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pascal_I will check it out. thx09:16
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ChefWillmy wifi hangs on "Activation stage: configuring device"09:20
ChefWillitll sit on there for a full minute then just stop and go back to wired ethernet :(09:20
ChefWilleven if its a network it auto detected09:20
ChefWillman09:21
ChefWill:(09:21
CaptainMorgan_sorry Kopete... going back to gaim09:21
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Healotheh09:22
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ChefWillsomeone help me out? trying to get wifi to work in knetworkmanager09:22
ChefWillit shows nearby wifi networks but it wont connect to mine or any others it detects09:23
koshsorry I can't help with that09:23
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pascal_That did it, but I think it should set it automatically. Didn't breezy set the clock automatically upon startup?09:23
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CaptainMorgan_ChefWill: that for lan's too?09:23
CaptainMorgan_not default in kubuntu, no? you install it?09:24
ChefWillyea09:24
ChefWillits the best09:24
ChefWilli cant get it working though09:24
ChefWillit detects all the networks but it wont connect09:24
ChefWillit gets stuck at configuring device09:25
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RawSewageHow many hundreds of spam do I have to Bogofilter before 1 spam is filtered09:26
ChefWillseems to be a common problem CaptainMorgan_09:27
ChefWillhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=5813.009:27
ChefWill;(09:27
ChefWillexactly whats happening to me09:27
PyroMithrandirpascal_, apparently, dapper is still setting it automatically upon startup ;)09:27
PyroMithrandirbut, I guess you mean setting the bios clock upon shutdown09:27
pascal_but, it didn't do that on mine...09:28
PyroMithrandirand I don't remember. I know I've had a distro that has done that in the past09:28
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pascal_breezy said "synchronizing with npt.ubunt....." or something like that when starting up. dapper doesn't do that.09:29
pascal_I've been setting the clock through KDE the last couple of days.. but it doesn't set the hardware clock apparently09:29
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ChefWillyour time zone must not be set right09:30
pascal_it is... and was only off by seven minuttes.09:30
pascal_Now its correct, but my guess is that it will change in the next month or something.09:31
pascal_only because I set it manually in the BIOS09:32
PyroMithrandirpascal_, open up your date and time and see if the "Set date and time automatically" is checked09:32
PyroMithrandirbecause that's the npt time server syncing thing09:33
pascal_it is09:33
pascal_you mean in the KDE clock right?09:33
PyroMithrandiryea09:33
pascal_europe.pool.ntp.org09:33
pascal_KDE syncs correctly... but problem was that it wasn't saved to the hardware clock and when I restart the time is off again09:35
pascal_except now when I set it manually in the BIOS09:35
katakombi pascal_ what's your computer? a rather new one?09:35
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pascal_Sempron 2600+09:36
[Evil] [Ernie] hello, I'm having a problem installing some software with dapper drake09:36
pascal_rather new.. it worked fine in breezy...09:36
katakombipascal_ for real excitement look at this: http://www.ailis.de/~k/docs/delld820/09:37
pascal_This is an install from the dapper RC though... I don't know if that would mean something09:37
[Evil] [Ernie] and my taskbar just disappeared09:38
[Evil] [Ernie] lol09:38
pascal_hehe, thats strange09:38
[Evil] [Ernie] indeed09:39
katakombipascal_ i think many users have problems with time / date currently09:39
[Evil] [Ernie] is there any key combination that would hide the taskbar?09:39
pascal_[Evil] [Ernie]  cant you rightclick on the kicker and add it as an applet?09:40
[Evil] [Ernie] kicker?09:40
pascal_yeah the panel in the bottom that the taskbar is on09:40
RawSewageBig update tooday09:40
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ChefWillive seen a lot of posts on this wifi issue but no resolutions :(09:41
stephenfordanyone know if i can buy a method to play mpy's and dvd's legally on linux in the uk?09:41
[Evil] [Ernie] there is no panel now, it disappeared09:41
stephenfordmpy3 = mp3's09:41
RawSewagelol09:41
RawSewageDont you know how to play  mp309:41
pascal_[Evil] [Ernie]  if that is what you are missing, just run the program kicker09:41
stephenfordi know how but legally is different09:41
stephenfordand dvds is more important09:41
RawSewageIve never heard of having to get a license to play mp309:42
stephenfordnore have i09:42
pascal_stephenford isn't it just illegal in the US?09:42
stephenfordahhhh k09:43
[Evil] [Ernie] well09:43
stephenfordbut dvds09:43
[Evil] [Ernie] i'm not sure how to run a program without access to that taskbar09:43
PyroMithrandiralt f209:43
[Evil] [Ernie] thanks!09:43
PyroMithrandirnp09:43
[Evil] [Ernie] running "kicker" didn't bring back the taskbar however!09:44
pascal_stephenford if you buy a commercial linux dist with mp3/dvd support out of the box you have allready payed the license.09:44
Healotyeah09:44
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stephenfordi know that09:44
stephenfordive got a coupl09:44
stephenforde09:44
bulltitancan some one tell me what is cedega?09:44
RawSewageit's Wine for games09:44
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bulltitan:D ho cool where do i get it from1?09:45
RawSewageI dont know.  It costs money09:45
[Evil] [Ernie] transgaming.com maybe09:45
bulltitan:(09:45
RawSewageI think it's free if you compile it yourself09:45
CaptainMorgan_mmk.. this is impossible... checking properties ona storage device, I choose calculate and it's going way over the limit... for exampe, 25gig - yet it's reading 32gig and counting!?09:45
bulltitanwell i've done a lot of compiling now i think i'm up for the challenge09:45
stephenfordlol famous last words09:46
bulltitan:|09:47
[Evil] [Ernie] how would i reboot without the taskbar?09:47
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pascal_[Evil] [Ernie]  did you click on the hide taskbar button? could be out in the sides of the taskbar. but not enabled by default09:47
CaptainMorgan_alt-f1?09:47
[Evil] [Ernie] i dont see anything in the corners that i can click on to unhide it09:48
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[Evil] [Ernie] just to be sure, i already clicked there too09:48
[Evil] [Ernie] it just mysteriously disappeared for no apparent reason09:48
vranikxhello all09:48
pascal_ok. alt+f2 write konsole. then type the command sudo shutdown -h now09:49
PyroMithrandirwait09:49
PyroMithrandirbefore you do that09:49
bulltitantoday i've realized that k3b has a brother in genome and it is genomebaker09:49
PyroMithrandiralt+f2 write konsole and then type ps -e |grep kicker09:49
[Evil] [Ernie] alright09:49
PyroMithrandirand tell us if it says anythnig09:50
[Evil] [Ernie] 4938 ? 00:00:18 kicker09:50
[Evil] [Ernie] is the result09:50
PyroMithrandirthe kicker program is running09:50
PyroMithrandiryou could do a kill 4938 and then a kicker and see if it comes back09:50
[Evil] [Ernie] roger that09:51
CaptainMorgan_mmk.. this is impossible... checking properties ona storage device, I choose calculate and it's going way over the limit... for exampe, 25gig - yet it's reading 32gig and counting!?09:51
stephenfordcaptainmorgan cant help you sorry does the same on my machine09:52
[Evil] [Ernie] X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitiated input device 16809:52
[Evil] [Ernie] after killing, then attempting to run kicker again09:52
stephenfordare you checking a fat partition by any chanse?09:52
CaptainMorgan_stephenford: yours goes over too?09:52
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CaptainMorgan_hmmm...09:52
CaptainMorgan_stephenford: yes - the on kubuntu is on :)09:52
PyroMithrandir[Evil] [Ernie] , uh, that's really weird09:53
[Evil] [Ernie] appears to be running again however09:53
PyroMithrandiroh09:53
PyroMithrandirwell09:53
PyroMithrandirnot so bad then09:53
PyroMithrandiror, wait, can you see it?09:53
cox377_Hey all09:53
[Evil] [Ernie] 7340 pts/1 00:00:00 kicker09:53
[Evil] [Ernie] still can't see it09:53
PyroMithrandirwait a second...09:53
mth`MAWMoin09:53
[Evil] [Ernie] that is the response to another ps -e |grep thing.. =o09:53
PyroMithrandiryeah, yeah09:53
stephenfordlinux is still not very intermediate user friendly09:53
mth`MAWI ment: hi there09:53
mth`MAWIT IS User friendly...09:54
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mth`MAWbut it chooses its users very well09:54
stephenfordits new user friendly09:54
[Evil] [Ernie] :)09:54
PyroMithrandirI'm just thinking... maybe yo ushould restart and see if it gets fixed, ernie09:54
stephenfordand advance user friendly09:54
[Evil] [Ernie] will do09:54
CaptainMorgan_PyroMithrandir: restarting shouldn't be an option..09:54
stephenfordbut i should be able just to check how much disk space i have left without learning a command line09:54
[Evil] [Ernie] sudo shutdown -h, right?09:54
stephenfordor downloading a program09:55
PyroMithrandirsudo shutdown -h now09:55
[Evil] [Ernie] ah09:55
[Evil] [Ernie] okay, be right back! Hopefully!09:55
pascal_and a now. but try to take the mouse to the corners of your screen09:55
defrysk poweroff09:55
PyroMithrandirCaptainMorgan_, what?09:55
defryskwill do09:55
RawSewagetj9991, you need to go to #Boringville, ok , SPORt??09:55
tj9991i need to remember to buy a short coaxial cable09:56
tj9991its not fun switching from my normal tv to my computer all the time09:56
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stephenfordanyone care to enlighten us of how to check disk space09:57
RawSewagetj9991, just idle there until I can reg it09:57
RawSewagedf -h09:57
tj9991why are you unable to register it now09:58
Healotdf -mh09:58
RawSewageneed 409:58
RawSewagewhats the m for09:58
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stephenfordthe really annoying thing is i can really see how linux is better than windows09:58
RawSewageoh09:58
RawSewagethen install Karamba09:58
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RawSewageSuperKaramba09:58
RawSewageand use the Disk plugin09:59
RawSewageit puts a thing on your desktop to show09:59
PyroMithrandir... man df doesn't even show a -m option...09:59
RawSewageI use df -h09:59
Healotkwikdisk09:59
RawSewageWhats that10:00
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Healot!info kwikdisk10:00
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ChefWill_A0F79CE1E3 would be a WEP Hex key is it not?10:00
Healot!info kdf10:00
ubotukdf: (disk space utility for KDE), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), Packaged size: 320 kB, Installed size: 948 kB10:00
stephenfordi guess liunx is all about comand lines huh10:00
RawSewagecool10:01
stephenfordanyone got a page of common kubuntu commandlines then?10:01
Healotstephenford: linux is about running the penguin down the slope :)10:01
HealotRawSewage: the main program is called "kwikdisk"10:01
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RawSewageLinux is about realizing anything can be changed and not assuming the defaults are everything10:01
[Evil] [Ernie] Weird!10:01
PyroMithrandirit come back?10:01
[Evil] [Ernie] no10:02
RawSewageAnd realizing anything you want to be done can be done10:02
stephenfordor are all these seperate programs10:02
PyroMithrandirtry with a different user account10:02
RawSewageYou have to shake that Windows mentality of  It is what it is10:02
bulltitana dumb thing to pinpoint, it's a good idea from kubuntu's side and all the other flavors to put memtest in their boot menu10:02
PyroMithrandirstephenford, are all what seperate programs?10:02
RawSewageHealot, do I have kdf installed by default?10:03
PyroMithrandirdifferent things to type in a terminal? yes10:03
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Healotsection universe/utils, is optional << no, RawSewage10:03
gan|y|medgood morning10:03
[Evil] [Ernie] there is only one user account at the moment10:03
RawSewagetj9991, I need 4 people there so I can reg it, ok, Champ10:03
gan|y|medi have an EMERGENCY10:03
PyroMithrandir!question10:03
ubotuPyroMithrandir: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:03
PyroMithrandirerm10:03
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PyroMithrandir!ask10:03
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Healotenabled "dapper" universe repos, and get kdf...10:03
ubotuFor information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:03
gan|y|medhow do i use the captive ntfs drivers in ubuntu?10:04
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PyroMithrandir!ntfs10:04
ubotuto automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>10:04
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Child4Christhi, is there a difference in the dvd version of Kubuntu rather than it just being a different medium?10:04
PyroMithrandir!captive10:04
ubotuhmm... captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.10:04
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Healotcaptive is a third party driver/application10:04
gan|y|medbut it's said to be part of the kernel10:05
Healotuse at own risk they say10:05
Healotgan|y|med: yeah, it is compiled against the kernel source, as kernel module or module at your choice10:05
gan|y|medhey the whole fss stuff is at your own risk10:05
waterglasshi, i just got a microsoft ergonomics keytboard to use with my linux and i love it but half the keys aren't recognised on the system, does anyone know of a good program that i can use for this? or a good online how-to? i'm googling away but haven't come up with anything useful yet.. thansk in advance10:05
CaptainMorgan_gan|y|med: are you drowning?10:06
nomad111hey every110:06
nomad111i cant seem to find libxine-extracodecs10:06
gan|y|medso i have to download it seperately?10:06
Hobbsee!multiverse10:06
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.10:06
Healotwell, ubuntu comes with a professional paid support10:06
nomad111ive enabled multiverse and universe10:06
gan|y|medmy windows is drowning10:06
gan|y|medand i am a student...10:06
Healotnomad111: add universe+multiverse on the dapper repos10:06
Healotnot the dapper-backport repos10:06
gan|y|medstill the same burden...10:06
nomad111can it be done from the konsole10:06
Healotnomad111: sure10:07
bulltitanwindows is dead it just needs to be buried10:07
Healotsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list - nomad11110:07
Healotbulltitan: no10:07
HealotI live with Windows!10:07
Healotand GNU/Linux10:07
Healotvariant is good!10:07
CaptainMorgan_are those Harvey Windows??? nice10:08
Healots/variant/variety10:08
bulltitanyep i know a windows has some good things10:08
Healotnot Windows is a copyrighted trademark of Microsoft Corporation :)10:08
[Evil] [Ernie] what's the name of the web browser this comes with again? kubuntu dapper drake10:08
Healots/not/note10:08
HealotKonqueror10:09
bulltitanno man i don't say that10:09
[Evil] [Ernie] thanks10:09
nomad111Healot: i dont hav the multiverse line in the source.lst10:09
nomad111Healot: just the backports one10:09
bulltitani mean i can still get a crack to use it freely :P10:09
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bulltitanho hum i'm not a pirate just a victim10:09
Healotnomad111: paste me all the lines without comments (the working lines)10:09
gan|y|medthere is a joke about the windows and windows... but i don't remember it. well, i have a virus. and by the way, kubuntu still has no standard gui for setting up iptables...10:09
HealotI can help you fix you sources.list ...10:10
nomad111sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list10:10
nomad111sorry10:10
Healotgan|y|med: "firestarter"10:10
bulltitananyway i don't use it anymore10:10
nomad111deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted10:10
nomad111deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe10:10
HealotI am a Firestarter10:10
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Healot!infor firestarter10:10
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot10:10
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Child4Christisnt firestarter gnome based?10:10
CaptainMorgan_!firestarter10:10
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.10:10
nomad111deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse10:10
Healot!info firestarter10:10
ubotufirestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 381 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB10:10
nomad111deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe10:10
Healotyep, but there isn't a minus for running GNOME apps10:11
Child4Christguarddog is good but it can cut your net off ^-^10:11
nomad111deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted10:11
nomad111deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted10:11
gan|y|medgood that i have you... :910:11
Hobbsee!op10:11
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee10:11
gan|y|med:)10:11
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Healotnomad111: paste it to me privately10:11
Healotoh blimey10:11
Hobbseenomad111: dont make me kick you for pasting.  use pastebin10:11
nomad111sorry10:11
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Healotor pastebin10:11
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Healotcool10:11
joshhey all10:11
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joshi have just installed kubuntu 6.06 (downloaded yesterday), is there anything i should do first?10:12
Healotjosh: whatever you want to do first10:13
Healotdamn10:13
[Evil] [Ernie] hrm10:13
defryskjosh, read http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php10:13
joshk10:13
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Child4Christshould i upgrade to Kubuntu 6.06 release? atm im using beta 210:15
joshcan i get different skins for the kde menu?10:15
CaptainMorgan_opening the home folder, and choosing View/View Mode/(any view) then closing out the window and re-opening.. how do I get the view to save?10:15
CaptainMorgan_as it doesn't10:15
joshme first10:15
joshlol10:16
Child4Christkde look :)10:16
josh???10:16
Child4Christkdelook.org if i remember right10:16
joshohhhhh10:16
joshthanx10:16
Child4Christcalled themes, can download them from there ^-^10:16
gan|y|medyou have to save the profile10:16
joshthanx10:16
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joshhow do i install firefox 5.10?10:18
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Healothuh10:18
HealotFirefox 5.10 hoho10:18
joshi mean firefox 1.510:19
joshlol10:19
Hobbsee!firefox1.510:19
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:19
joshthanx10:19
Healotin Dapper it is 1.510:19
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joshhuh?10:20
joshis this method of getting firefox 1.5 recomended?10:22
joshhttp://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Chronicles#Install_Firefox_1.510:22
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Hobbseejosh: follow what ubotu said abouve10:22
joshok10:22
Healotbtw that's for Breezy, Dapper's firefox is 1.510:23
joshwhst do u mean?10:23
joshwhat**10:23
cox377_can anyone tell me the command to restart the kubuntu desktop becauyse it seems to crash when ever i deal with .png10:23
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cox377_lol10:24
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HealotI mean the the punsy for Dapper (the current stable release) is Firefox version 1.5, thus it is recommended to get the firefox from the ubuntu repos10:24
joshohhhhh10:25
joshhoe10:25
CaptainMorgan_profiles don't save the view Detailed List on exit ;(10:25
joshhow**10:25
joshcos that guide that ubotu said is to confusing10:25
PyroMithrandirjosh, are you sure you aren't already running 1.5? :)10:25
joshummmmm, dont think so, i just installed kubuntu 6.0610:25
joshlike less then an hour ago10:26
Hobbseejosh: you would10:26
Hobbseejosh: help, about10:26
Child4Christjosh: do this, open Konsole sudo -i then enter your usr pass, type in apt-get install firefox, that will install firefox 1.510:26
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OrgulloKmoorehello10:26
joshk, thanx10:26
cox377_anyone knnow hopw to restart the desktop10:26
Hobbseeoh yeah10:26
Hobbseehey OrgulloKmoore10:26
Hobbseecox377_: ctrl+alt+backspace10:26
OrgulloKmooreI've just recently installed kubuntu but I can't seem to get my sound to work10:26
OrgulloKmooreit was working on the live cd, however10:27
Healotcox377_: that will restart the X server and your desktop manager10:27
joshso sudo apt-get install firefox ?10:27
OrgulloKmooreI'm a windows convert10:27
Child4Christsudo -i10:27
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Child4Christthen your usr pass then apt-get ^-^10:27
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cox377haha10:27
joshk10:27
cox377that restarted everything bar the computer10:27
HealotOrgulloKmoore: Windows rocks though... the NT family though10:28
OrgulloKmooreheh10:28
OrgulloKmoorewell I wasn't able to finda an product key so yeah...10:28
Healotyou pirate, hehe10:28
Healotanyways, OrgulloKmoore: your question?10:28
Child4Christyou can get Vista Beta 2 for free10:28
Child4Christexpires 1st of June 0710:29
Healotyeah10:29
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OrgulloKmooreHealot: umm...I would like some help getting sound, if possible10:29
Healotmmmkay10:29
Hobbseecrimsun_: ping?10:29
Healotdid you try running the mixer? OrgulloKmoore10:29
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OrgulloKmooreI did alsamixer10:29
kuzmasterhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71026610:29
OrgulloKmooreand turned everything up10:29
Healotkmix -> KDE menu -> Multimedia -> kmixer10:29
kuzmasteri got an error10:29
HealotOrgulloKmoore: are you trying to play MP3 files?10:30
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kuzmasterwhen doing apt -get install firefox10:30
OrgulloKmooreHealot: I've tried several files, including the "test sound" button10:30
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stephenfordwhats the -i for?10:30
Child4Christyou might have to change the sources10:30
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OrgulloKmooresome mp3s, a flash video...10:30
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Child4Christnano /etc/apt/sources.list10:30
Healotdid you hear the sound in the test sound? OrgulloKmoore10:30
Child4Christthink -i is for usr, not really sure though :/10:31
kuzmastercan i install firefox via adept?10:31
kuzmasteri like adept better10:31
Healotkuzmaster: no... kidding, yes of course10:31
Child4Christmight be able to, have a look, prolly under the gnome suit though10:31
OrgulloKmooreHealot: no...but I heard all sorts of sounds on the live cd10:31
kuzmasterhow then10:31
OrgulloKmooreHealot: but when I did the HD installation, the sound ceased to work10:31
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OrgulloKmooreholy crap I just heard a sound!!!10:32
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OrgulloKmoorefirefox alert just triggered one10:32
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HealotOrgulloKmoore: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"10:32
Healottry to reconfigure your sound card again...10:33
kuzmasterhow do i install firefor via adept10:33
OrgulloKmooreok10:33
Child4Christfrom your K menu Add/Remove Programs then when its runnin select the drop down box (by default its KDE) and select GNOME10:33
kuzmasterme?10:33
Child4Christyup10:33
Healottry switching both output oss and alsa10:33
kuzmasterk10:33
kuzmasteryes10:34
kuzmasternext10:34
[Evil] [Ernie] uhg10:34
OrgulloKmooreHealot: got it, thanks!10:34
[Evil] [Ernie] how do i shut down again?10:34
Child4Christleft bar, look in the internet catagories10:34
[Evil] [Ernie] via terminal10:34
OrgulloKmoorethe test sound thing just worked10:34
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emonkeylap[Evil] [Ernie] , halt10:34
kuzmasterthere is no internet10:34
Child4Christlemme have a look10:34
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HealotOrgulloKmoore: btw if you need to play mp3 or other media files just ask10:35
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kuzmasteri have graphics, office, others, system, settings, utilities10:35
Child4Christoh ok so firefox isnt in the installer proggy10:35
OrgulloKmooreok10:36
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nomad111Healot: that thing u told me to do with source.list didnt fix the problem10:36
Child4Christi use apt-get for all my programs :/10:36
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nomad111Healot: ill paste u wat the konsole gives me10:36
kuzmasterdoes the source-o-matic thing work with dapper drake?10:36
Child4Christwhats that?10:36
Healotnomad111: just tge working lines without the #! mmmaky10:36
kuzmasterit generates a sources.list thing10:36
Child4Christooooo10:36
Child4Christi uncomment (#) all the deb http lines10:37
kuzmasterits on a ubuntu wiki page10:37
Healot!easyubuntu10:37
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.10:37
Hobbseekuzmaster: should do10:37
kuzmasterk10:37
kuzmaster!sources.list10:38
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.10:38
cox377does anyone here run azureus?10:38
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nomad111Healot: k i got it thx a lot man10:38
[Evil] [Ernie] cool, fixed the kicker problem10:38
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Child4Christi use KXDocker ^-^10:38
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[Evil] [Ernie] apparently reset it as well10:39
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stephenfordok i've been meaning to ask you guys10:39
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stephenfordi do a lot of 3d work in blender one of the many reasons i'm trying to migrate to linux but the open gl doesnt seam as good10:40
stephenfordthe selcetion lines are all broken up and such is there any way to solve this?10:40
[Evil] [Ernie] hm10:41
[Evil] [Ernie] no clue ^.>10:41
RawSewagestephenford, did you install kdf10:41
stephenfordkdf?10:41
RawSewageKwikdisk works nice10:42
kuzmasterin adept, when i go to manage repositories, should all the entries be grayed-out?10:42
RawSewagetheres an icon in my tray10:42
RawSewageI click it, and I see all the free space on my drives10:42
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pd273!easysource10:42
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:42
RawSewage!kdf10:42
ubotuRawSewage: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:42
kuzmasterthats excatly what i needed10:42
stephenforddoing it now10:43
ganymedanybody knows zenwalk?10:43
kuzmasterand wanted10:43
kuzmasterthanx pd27310:43
pd273:)10:43
Child4Christhmm *clicks*10:44
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noxshi all10:44
Child4Christlooks good that ^-^10:44
nomad111does any1 kno a program that simulates electric circuits for linux that uses pspice10:44
Child4Christhi noxs10:44
nomad111ie something like orcad capture10:45
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cox377pd273: Hello mate10:48
cox377got a few questions for yah10:48
cox377:                  )10:48
kuzmasterafter i update the sources.list, what do i type into terminal?10:51
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kuzmasterto update it or somthing10:51
Child4Christapt-get install firefox10:51
Child4Christoh, apt-get update10:51
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[Evil] [Ernie] i'm trying to install GTK+ 2.010:51
kuzmasterthanx10:51
kuzmasterthats the one10:51
Child4Christ^-^10:51
kuzmasteri need to do sudo -i, dont i10:52
[Evil] [Ernie] and when i do ./configure as the install readme says to do10:52
noxshow to change resolution to 1280x1024?10:52
Child4Christyup :)10:52
kuzmasterk10:52
noxsi changed the xorg.conf10:52
[Evil] [Ernie] it says no acceptable c compiler found in $PATH10:52
noxsbut its ignored10:52
noxsim using kde10:52
cox377noxs: i tried the same thing but with no job10:52
cox377i thuink i had some links for it10:52
cox3772 secs10:52
noxsisn t there any resolution changer?10:52
ChefWill_[Evil] [Ernie] : make sure you have gcc and build-essential packages10:53
Child4Christapt-get install gcc and apt-get install g++10:53
cox377dammit, didnt save the links10:53
[Evil] [Ernie] hmm10:53
[Evil] [Ernie] i just have whatever dapper drake came with :)10:53
Hobbsee!b-e10:54
ubotuor if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.10:54
stephenfordsooo is there anyway i can get a dvd to play in kubuntu in the uk paid or not?10:54
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[Evil] [Ernie] i've only been using linux for about 24 hours..10:54
Hobbsee!tell stephenford about dvd10:54
stephenfordcheers10:55
[Evil] [Ernie] hm10:55
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mrmistwhy isn't lyx in the standard repositories ? Have I done something wrong ?10:59
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Child4Christ:P10:59
kuzmasterapt-get update failed10:59
kuzmasterill show up10:59
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kuzmasterhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71029910:59
kuzmasterthats my error after using apt-get update10:59
kuzmasterany ideas?11:00
mrmister... seems you can't connect to the net ?11:00
kuzmasterany?11:00
kuzmasterwell i am11:00
Ashexyou modified your sources list11:00
Child4Christlooks like either A: urls dont exist or B: your box cant resolve the dns11:00
kuzmasteryeah11:00
Ashexthat's the problem11:00
Ashexsome of the repositories you added don't exist11:01
Ashexso it times out on those11:01
kuzmasteri got the sources.list via....11:01
kuzmaster!easysource11:01
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:01
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AshexI don't know easysource11:01
stargaterhi11:01
[Evil] [Ernie] erg.. whenever i try to ./configure something i get an error message that there is no c compiler in my $PATH11:01
Ashexbut I can tell you that some of those repositories don't exist11:01
kuzmasterk11:01
Ashex[Evil] [Ernie] : check that you have gcc++ installed11:01
mrmistguys !? Anyonw know why there isn't a LyX package ??11:01
kuzmasterhang on11:02
kuzmasterill try my old sources.list11:02
Child4ChristLyX?11:02
mrmistyeah11:02
[Evil] [Ernie] does gcc++ come with dapper drake? =p11:02
mrmistwysiwym LaTeX editor11:02
kuzmastercos everything was commented on it by defult11:02
Child4Christdont think it comes with any compiler11:02
[Evil] [Ernie] otherwise, i don't know how to tell whether or not it's installed11:02
Ashex[Evil] [Ernie] : make sure you have the dev libraries11:02
Child4Christcan use emacs :)11:02
Ashexuse adept11:02
Ashexand apt-cache search11:03
ChefWill_anyone know how to fix the bright high contrast issue with streaming video?11:03
Ashexmrmist: you probably need to add multiverse to your repositories11:03
mrmisthmm11:03
[Evil] [Ernie] hmm nope, not there11:03
kuzmastercan somone give my a copy of their sources.list?11:04
mrmistI've used apt-cache search... it isn't there11:04
ChefWill_kuzmaster:11:04
ChefWill_!sources11:04
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.11:04
kuzmasteryeah.....11:04
kuzmasterbut i stuffed mine up11:04
ChefWill_read....11:04
kuzmasteri need a new one11:04
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ChefWill_READ11:04
kuzmasterk11:04
Ashexkuzmaster: what ChefWill_ said, read that entire announce11:05
kuzmasterok11:05
kane_has anyone used pppoe on kubuntu ?11:05
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kuzmasterthis sources.list should be apporiate?11:08
kuzmasterhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666611:08
kuzmastershould it?11:09
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kuzmasterhmmmmmm?11:10
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Hobbseekuzmaster: yes11:10
kuzmasterk11:10
ririi installed french dapper but i can't install java or flash ?11:10
RawSewagetj9991, does it put you out too much to idle on a channel?11:10
kuzmastergood11:10
Ashexlooks safe to me11:10
knubbeanyone who knows why my Xorg takes around 70% of the CPU all the time?11:10
Hobbsee!tell riri about java11:10
Hobbsee!tell riri about flash11:10
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pd273kane_: did you check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE11:11
Child4Christwhy do i keep getting disconnected? :(11:11
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Hobbseeknubbe: check for a bug report on it - i think i've heard people talking about it11:11
HobbseeChild4Christ: no idea, it just says remote closed connection11:11
Child4ChristKonversation says "no error" :/11:11
Child4Christcould be cause im using beta 211:11
pd273knubbe: is this problem coming even across reboots11:11
AshexChild4Christ: google the disconnect error "Remote closed the connection"11:11
ChefWill_noone knows about streaming video high constrast/brightness issue?11:12
HobbseeChild4Christ: beta 2?  of what version?11:12
AshexChefWill_: try ##linux11:12
Child4ChristKubuntu 6.0611:12
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Child4Christim downloading the relase version to install11:12
kuzmasterin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666, should i uncomment lines 26-29?11:12
HobbseeChild4Christ: has your connection been totally disconnectin gor something?11:12
HobbseeChild4Christ: you can just upgrade, easily..11:12
Child4Christnot that i know of, but xmms keeps pausing on the di stream11:13
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kuzmasterin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666, should i uncomment lines 26-29?11:13
Hobbseekuzmaster: no11:13
Ashexkuzmaster: probably not11:13
Child4Christupgrade?11:13
Hobbseeand dont repeat11:13
kuzmasterok, thanx11:13
kuzmastersorry11:13
HobbseeChild4Christ: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade11:13
Child4Christoh ok, thx ^-^11:13
kuzmasterim just really impatent11:13
Hobbseekuzmaster: impatience wont get you help11:13
kuzmasterlol11:13
Hobbseeit'll probably make people help you less11:13
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ririhobb :11:14
Ashextrue dat11:14
knubbeHobbsee: ok, im searching through ubuntuforums..11:14
kuzmasterapt-get update after changing my sources.list?11:14
Ashexit's 2am for me, and people just happen to be asking questions i can help with11:14
Hobbseekuzmaster: yes11:14
ririi tried to installed java and flash11:14
knubbepd273: what do you mean? if it goes away after doing a reboot? i suppose not, since i just started it up.11:14
kuzmasterk, thanx11:14
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Hobbseekuzmaster: then sudo apt-get upgrade11:14
ririfrom all links in synaptic11:14
mrmistthanks guys :)11:14
mrmistI managed :)11:14
ririuniverse multiverse11:14
mrmistcya11:14
riribut there are fr- before11:15
pd273knubbe: I was asking if the problem occurs even if you reboot the system11:15
knubbeHobbsee: it's really annoying since the mouse hangs for like 0.2 seconds every 2 seconds..11:15
[Evil] [Ernie] meh11:15
[Evil] [Ernie] where do you get the gcc++ compiler anyway?11:15
Ashex[Evil] [Ernie] : like I said, check apt-cache11:15
ririand i wonder if they in their repos java and flash ?11:15
Hobbsee!tell [Evil] [Ernie]  about b-e11:15
pd273I had a problem in my Breezy, but it went away itself when i did a reboot11:15
Hobbseeriri: see what ubotu sent you11:15
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knubbepd273: ok, ill give it a try.11:15
ririhobb why "au " ?11:16
[Evil] [Ernie] couldn't find package build-essential11:16
riridon't you know french repos ?11:16
Ashex[Evil] [Ernie] : then install it11:16
Child4Christok i did that an it came up with 0 upgraded, installed, removed and not upgraded, that mean when i clicked the update icon and it did it for me?11:16
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ririhobb : i notice if i installed from other repos11:17
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ririi will have problem with scim after11:17
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kuzmasterhmmmph11:18
kuzmasterapt-get update never works11:18
ririis there any "mixed up " between french and other repos ?11:18
Child4Christoff to cook somethin to eat, bbiab an thx for the help ^-^11:18
ririthe french irc doesn't work :)11:19
ririi mean no answer11:19
ririand if here i can't get answer11:19
ririwell i am not sure i can use any more kubuntu11:19
kuzmasterim just gonna do a fresh install of kubunt11:20
ririmost of web answers are for ubuntu ?11:20
kuzmasterhope fully that will fix my problems11:20
ririgood luck11:20
kuzmasterone more try tho11:20
kuzmasterand thanx11:20
ririi fear not...11:20
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ririwhen i had dapper flight11:21
ririi get all answers here11:21
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Ashexriri: kubuntu is the kde version of ubuntu11:21
ririapparently it's not working so good ?11:21
ririyes i know11:21
Ashexso most of the articles you'll find on ubuntu will apply to kubuntu11:21
riribut when i read how to in ubuntu it doesn't work for kubuntu11:22
ririnot true ?11:22
ririashex have you use it recently ?11:22
Ashexused what recently11:22
ririyesterday i tried to install flash and hava from the how to11:22
ririthe ubuntu doc ?11:23
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Ashexah11:23
Ashexdid you try with the methods we mentioned?11:23
ririyes11:23
ririand no links to get the things install11:23
AshexI can't really say then, I haven't gotten around to installing java or flash11:23
ririso i did it manually11:23
Ashexyou grabbed the dev lib from java's site?11:24
ririyes i guess11:24
ririyes11:24
Ashexhrmm11:24
Ashex!easyubuntu11:24
riribut i would prefer the solution they advice11:24
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.11:24
ririthanks ubotu11:25
riribut i am surprised not to find solution here11:25
knubbepd273 / Hobbsee : it seems like if its a bug in the kernel. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/3057011:25
riribefore 1 june i was very helped11:25
Ashextry easyubuntu11:25
pd273ok11:25
Ashexyou just need to be on at the right times :p11:25
ririyes i guess11:25
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riribut it's a pity11:26
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ririif an irc depends on the mood or the pleasure of people...11:26
ririi have change many times distro...11:27
Ashexit's not that11:27
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=== Hobbsee wishes people would read the darn topic, and check the "commonly asked questions" before they asked anything. grr @ them.
Ashexit's about who is on11:27
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ririand i choosed kubuntu because the irc was very quick and good inform11:27
cox377I have a couple of questions that should be pretty simple to answer to the person who knows if anyone has got a minute11:27
ubuntuciao a tutti11:27
Ashexriri, a lot of the people who know their stuff are sleeping11:27
Ashexit's 2am for me right now11:28
Hobbseeriri: about that wiki, for those bits.  define "doesnt work"11:28
AshexI'm normally asleep11:28
Hobbsee!doesntwork11:28
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee11:28
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Hobbsee!tell cox377 about ask11:28
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pd273Hi cox37711:28
ririhobbsee : i typed what they suggested sudo apt-get install sun-java..11:28
cox377Hey people11:28
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Hobbseeriri: yep, what'd you get?11:29
RawSewagetj9991, does it put you out too much to idle on a channel?11:29
cox377basically, firstly i'm looking to add trash can to desktop haha and i havent worked out how11:29
Hobbsee!java11:29
pd273Its 3:00 pm here for me :)11:29
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs11:29
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ririno apps11:29
cox377where r yah PD?11:29
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pd273:)11:29
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pd273was busy in a clients place11:29
pd273became free now11:30
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ririimbrandon used to give me a link for repos11:30
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Hobbseeriri: as in, it found nothing?  did you go and enable multiverse?11:30
Hobbsee!repos11:30
[Evil] [Ernie] trying to get build-essential using apt-get11:30
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.11:30
Hobbseeriri: that one ^11:30
ririyes11:30
pd273Trash can thing I have read a solution for that some time back11:30
[Evil] [Ernie] apt-get update returns an error11:30
ririi have it enable11:30
Hobbsee[Evil] [Ernie] : did you read what the bot sent you?11:30
pd273let me see if I can recollect11:30
Hobbseeriri: mmm okay.11:30
AshexHa11:30
[Evil] [Ernie] yes11:30
Ashexwicked11:30
cox377:           )11:30
AshexI just installed my nvidia drivers with easyubuntu11:31
Ashexand it worked!11:31
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ririthat 's how i saw all repos are with fr- before11:31
Hobbsee[Evil] [Ernie] : please pastebin "the error"  - gave "an error" is useless.11:31
[Evil] [Ernie] it said it couldn't find the build-essentian11:31
[Evil] [Ernie] essential*11:31
Ashex[Evil] [Ernie] : Like I said, install the fucker11:31
Hobbsee[Evil] [Ernie] : pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please11:32
ririi will look for build essential too11:32
Ashexif it can't find something, then find it!11:32
HobbseeAshex: language11:32
ririi need it for vmare11:32
Ashexsorry Hobbsee11:32
Hobbsee!+b-e11:32
ririvmware11:32
ubotuor if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.11:32
katakombii have a question about acpi: Is throttling saving any battery live at all?11:32
Hobbseefor all of you looking for build essentials, use that link, and do *not* come back asking for help again.11:32
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[Evil] [Ernie] how do i install something i dont have =p11:32
Ashexjust getting irritated by people not listening11:32
[Evil] [Ernie] rgr11:32
[Nige] hi all11:32
Hobbseekatakombi: possibly11:32
HobbseeAshex: yeah, tell me about it11:32
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Hobbsee[Evil] [Ernie] : pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and the error.  see the topic for the link to pastebin.11:33
katakombiHobbsee: i can feel that the system slows down but the power consumption does not decrease11:33
Hobbseekatakombi: i dont know, sorry...11:33
Ashex!tell [Evil] [Ernie]  about apt11:33
[Nige] anyone having problems with ati and big desktop?11:33
katakombi!acpi11:33
ririapparently apt-get found build essential11:33
ubotukatakombi: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:33
ririso why not flash and java ?11:34
[Evil] [Ernie] the error was just that it couldnt find the build essential, as far as installing it i have no idea how to go about that11:34
Hobbseeriri: because they're under different names, and in multiverse11:34
[Evil] [Ernie] i'll try the links the bot just forwarded though11:34
cox377pd273: you manage to find anything?11:34
[Evil] [Ernie] and the pastebin11:35
pd273looking11:35
Hobbseeif it couldnt find build essential, then either it's typed in wrong, or the repos are wrong.11:35
ririhobbsee : what name ? sun-java*11:35
Hobbseeriri: you on dapper?11:35
ririyes11:35
defryskbuild-essential11:35
riribuid... is installed now11:36
Hobbseeriri: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list as well please - that should be there11:36
riribuild-essential11:36
cox377cheers man11:36
Hobbseethe sun-java-bin11:36
cox377something that should be so simple11:36
defrysksun-java5-jre11:36
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ririok11:37
mindspitogofilter Vs Spammassasin : witch one to use ????11:37
mindspitBogofilter Vs Spammassasin : witch one to use ????11:37
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ubuntuciao11:37
defrysk!it11:37
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:37
ubuntua ok grazie11:38
defrysk;)11:38
pd273cox377: could not find till now, guess I forgot11:38
cox377lol11:38
pd273the trash is there in the task bar11:38
pd273may be thats why its ignored11:38
cox377never mind dude.. i very much appreicate you taking the time to look11:38
pd273beside task bar11:38
ubuntuI try speak english11:38
pd273hehe11:38
ubuntuCan you help me?11:39
ubuntulol11:39
pd273finding out stuff is fun11:39
cox377lol11:39
ubuntustuff what means?11:39
defryskubuntu, cant help you with speaking english, sorry11:39
cox377does anyone have any experience with exporting an address book from outlook E to thunderbird11:39
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ririhobbsee :http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71035211:40
cox377but when imported into TB it sees the names as nicknames and therefore doesnnt display them in the list until you click on that contact11:40
cox377not directly kubuntu related but...11:40
ririhobbsee did you get my pastebin ?11:41
Hobbseeriri: yes, i thought so.  add " multiverse" to the end of universe on line 1611:41
Hobbseeyeah, i just cant type that fast - fingers are cold :P11:41
ririok11:41
ririlol11:41
ririsorry11:41
ririwhere are you ? in northen pole ?11:42
Hobbseeriri: backports multiverse is different to normal multiverse.  it's really silly, the way it's done11:42
Hobbseeno, australia11:42
ubuntuhi11:42
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[Evil] [Ernie] oh, i see11:42
pd273nice to see a user ubuntu here11:42
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[Evil] [Ernie] i need to edit etc/apt/sources.list11:43
Hobbseeriri: once you've done that, you'll find that you can follow the wiki for flash and java just fine :)  make sure you scrol down to the update alternatives part of java11:43
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Hobbsee[Evil] [Ernie] : kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:43
Child4Christ. /etc/apt/sources.list :)11:43
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Child4Christ<-- nano fan ;P~~11:43
[Evil] [Ernie] =p11:44
HobbseeChild4Christ: same here, but...11:44
defrysknano -w blablah11:44
ririhobbsee thanks11:44
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ubuntuHi guy11:44
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rirido you know the guitarist patrick obson ?11:44
ririfrom au too...11:44
Hobbseeriri: not a problem.  it's amazing what happens when a person gives us all the info we need, rather than just "it doesnt work" or whatever :)11:44
ririso cold there ?11:44
Hobbseeriri: and actually does what we ask of them11:45
Hobbseewell,  i'm cold - it might not actually be that cold outside11:45
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ririwell... english is not my mother language...11:45
MitjaDisregarding that ISP could filter/block port 80, are there any special restrictions regarding opening it?11:45
Hobbseeriri: that's not a problem :)11:45
ririthanks anyway :)11:45
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Hobbseeriri: but if someone asks for a pastebin of your /etc/apt/sources.list - there's probably a reason, and they cant do anything else without it.11:45
Hobbseethat kind of thing was what i was meaning11:46
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defryskcoffee11:46
Child4Christis the sources list exploitable?11:46
ririthe problem is I am newbie with kubuntu and i didn't know what pastebin meant11:46
Hobbseeriri: yeah - that's where reading the topic comes in handy11:46
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Hobbseethere's also !pastebin11:46
Hobbsee!pastebin11:47
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .11:47
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Child4Christbrb pizza should be dine ^-^11:47
ririyes i know i have been kick off11:47
ririwhy so complicated ?11:47
ririwhy not a bit slower and taking time to discuss ?11:47
[Evil] [Ernie] alright, my pastebin should be sent11:48
Hobbsee[Evil] [Ernie] : can you give us a link to your paste in the pastebin please?11:48
ririi am retired ... and don't want to carry on this mad "job" capitalism bullshit in free open source11:48
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[Evil] [Ernie] oh11:49
[Evil] [Ernie] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71035711:49
Hobbseeriri: in all honestly, i'm slightly annoyed, and probably shouldnt be around at the moment - but no one else is here helping.11:49
riritime to live time to love time to have good contact...11:49
Hobbseeriri: also, the wiki explains a lot of this11:49
louie_I have problem with MPlayer, I tried to resize movie screen but it is not possible, I can  use fullscreen but I cannot modify movie dimension11:49
Hobbsee[Evil] [Ernie] : do you know what a # in front of a line does?11:50
ririhobbsee you did it :)11:50
Hobbseeriri: see, here's trying to explain.11:50
Hobbsee!repos11:50
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.11:50
ririyesterday i spend all day with wiki and all11:50
[Evil] [Ernie] # is a comment11:50
Hobbseewhat, the installer did that?  weird.11:50
ririi format kubuntu after being fedup11:50
Hobbsee[Evil] [Ernie] : you got it11:51
[Evil] [Ernie] i was unaware i even had to modify that file11:51
Hobbsee[Evil] [Ernie] : replace what's in there currently with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666611:51
ririso if you won't have help me... how can one knows there is a mistake line 16 ?11:51
[Evil] [Ernie] ah, this OS is so confusing11:51
[Evil] [Ernie] okay11:51
Hobbseeriri: because a lot of those packages (in fact, all, ithink) need multiverse.  which is not there by default.11:51
Hobbseeriri: the other solution is to tell you to do what i just told [Evil] [Ernie]  to do - they both do the same thing...11:52
ririok... don't loose your time... thanks ... i guess the time is n't the best for english speaking people11:52
ririyes11:52
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Hobbsee!java11:52
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs11:52
riribut i need contact.. :)11:52
Hobbseeriri: true :)11:53
[Evil] [Ernie] i could simply overwrite the current text in sources.list correct?11:53
defryskriri, the the french kubuntu channel11:53
Hobbsee[Evil] [Ernie] : yep11:53
defrysktry*11:53
Hobbseeriri: hmmm...it's not there.  dodgy.  well, nto there explicitly11:53
ririhobbsee... if you are young you will see how much important is to "loose" few minutes" chating..lol11:53
ririfr channel : no answer11:54
Hobbseeriri: i dont understand...11:54
defryskriri, helping peole out requires focus and with loose chatting you loose focus11:54
_rince_mrgn11:54
ririno i don't agree with this11:54
defryskriri, so if you wich to chat go to some off-topc channel11:55
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ririi have been teaching all kind of people11:55
defryskriri, you dont have to agree11:55
riridefrysk11:55
defryskriri, you enjoy babbling find a babble room11:55
riridon't be nasty def...11:56
ririthe kind of people like you11:56
ririis not a good advert for kubuntu11:56
[Evil] [Ernie] crap11:56
[Evil] [Ernie] my support just disconnected11:56
[Evil] [Ernie] lol11:56
defrysk[Evil] [Ernie] , where wre you working on ?11:57
RawSewagetj9991, does it put you out too much to idle on a channel11:57
riridef : i don't like babbling11:57
[Evil] [Ernie] more build-essential stuff11:57
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[Evil] [Ernie] apparently im not the only one that has had that problem =p11:57
nico8481hi11:57
ririi try to see if this irc is just good to help people11:57
tj9991i average 50-60 now almost always now11:57
defrysk[Evil] [Ernie] , did you get the multi - and universe repos in ?11:57
RawSewageFor Kubuntu bootup time?11:58
nico8481question: any idea how often does the adept notifier check for updates?11:58
tj999145-50 if i get lucky on a OLL skip11:58
[Evil] [Ernie] yes11:58
defryskupdate the repos after ?11:58
defryskthen sudo apt-get install build-essential11:58
[Evil] [Ernie] updating now11:58
defryskgood :)11:59
[Evil] [Ernie] i do get alot of strange errors while using the konsole though11:59
[Evil] [Ernie] let me type one11:59
defryskok11:59
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[Evil] [Ernie] X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitiated input device 16811:59
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[Evil] [Ernie] Major opcode: 14512:00
[Evil] [Ernie] Minor opcode: 312:00
defrysk[Evil] [Ernie] , with sudo apt-get update that happens ?12:00
[Evil] [Ernie] yes12:00
[Evil] [Ernie] it still updated12:00
defryskok12:00
defryskthen sudo apt-get install build-essential12:00
[Evil] [Ernie] excellent12:01
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dmoynehello everybody ! ; I have a ridiculous question ; is it possible to load through apt-get the source of a sotftware for recompilation for example as it was possible with Mandrake ?12:01
defryskdmoyne yes12:02
[Evil] [Ernie] curious.... if i just say "kdesu" in a terminal that error message will print12:02
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defryskdmoyne, sudo apt-get source -b package12:02
dmoynehow do you do to load a source ?12:02
defryskdmoyne, sudo apt-get source -d12:03
defryskdmoyne, sudo apt-get source -d <package>12:03
dmoyneand then where is the source stored ?12:03
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defryskdmoyne, better to use fakeroot insted of sude then12:03
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dmoynewhat is kakeroot12:03
defryskif you use fakeroot it wil be in the folder where you ordered the command12:03
dmoynefakeroot...12:04
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defryskdmoyne, it is used to fake root12:04
dmoynethanks and using synaptic is it possible ?12:04
defryskno12:05
defryskafaIk not12:05
defrysknot sure tho12:05
dmoyneah therefore you cannot easily select a software from a list12:05
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defryskdmoyne, apt-cache search <package>12:06
defryskand you get a list12:06
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Ashexdmoyne, if you want to be able to browse packages, use adept12:06
dmoyneok my problem is that I am not really keen to use the konsole to do so as you have to memorize too many things12:07
defryskapt-get build dep <package> gives you the needed deps for the package so you can compile12:07
dmoyneok let use summerize12:07
defryskdmoyne, for compiling the cli is essential12:07
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dmoynewhat is the cli12:07
defryskthe Command Line Interface12:08
dmoyneof course this I known but this is basically all I use in command mode ! let us summerize :12:08
dmoyne(1) I create a folder in my domaine12:09
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dmoyne(2) how to use fakeroot then to apt-get the source in that folder ?12:09
defryskuse fakeroot instead of sudo12:09
defryskthats it12:10
defryskfakeroot has to be installed12:10
defryskalso build-essential has to be installed for compiling12:10
dmoyneah then very likely kakeroot to load from synaptic first12:10
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joshhey all12:10
AshexBefore I go to sleep12:10
defryskdmoyne, install fakeroot and build-essential12:10
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Ashexany of you guys have a clue what this means? http://pastebin.com/71039612:10
Ashexit occurs whenever I apt-get install/upgrade12:11
dmoyneok I do wait12:11
Ashexit hasn't caused me any actual problems, it just shows up whenever I do12:11
kuzmasterwhen ever i go apt-get update, i get this12:11
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kuzmasterhang on12:11
kuzmastergetting link12:11
kuzmasteri get this http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71039812:11
defryskkuzmaster, maybe the cd line in sources.list is not commented ?12:11
defryskor Ashex that is12:12
kuzmasterill put my sources.list in pastbin12:12
defryskkuzmaster, for you its something else12:12
AshexI'll check my sources12:12
Ashexas soon as I remember where they are located12:12
defryskclose synatic or whatever apt -app before doing anything on the cli12:12
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kuzmasterheres my sources.list http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71040012:13
defryskAshex, /etc/apt/sources.list12:13
Ashexyeah, i did a locate to find them12:14
defryskclose synapic or whatever apt -app before doing anything on the cli12:14
kuzmasterit was12:14
dmoyneok I have installed fakeroot and build-essential now I will create a folder and "fakeroot apt-get source -d my_source"12:14
[Evil] [Ernie] linux is a nightmare >.<12:14
AshexNot really12:14
Ashexyou're just doing things the hard way12:14
Ashex:p12:14
blushhi, i'm trying to use ndiswrapper in order to use the wifi driver of my laptop (compaq presario m2358ea and broadcom driver). It's installed fine, but there is no way to use iwlist elan0/eth1 scan: No one of these network devices "support scanning". What am i doing bad?12:14
[Evil] [Ernie] its taking me 3 hours to install firefox12:14
kuzmasterits a challange12:15
[Evil] [Ernie] lol12:15
Ashex3 hours?12:15
[Evil] [Ernie] well12:15
Ashexit took me about a minute12:15
Ashex:P12:15
[Evil] [Ernie] i know =p its just me12:15
kuzmastermy adept/sources.list wont work12:15
Ashexuse adept when you need to install things12:15
[Evil] [Ernie] ive been a windows user for the past 7 years12:15
[Evil] [Ernie] this is going to take some time12:15
AshexHa12:15
AshexI've been using linux for less then 4 months12:15
defryskkuzmaster, sudo dpkg --configure -a12:16
AshexI've been using kubuntu for about 4 weeks now12:16
kuzmasterthe main thing that i love about linux (kubuntu 6.06) is that the main programs are there12:16
[Evil] [Ernie] ick12:16
kuzmasterand all driveers are12:16
RawSewage[Evil] [Ernie] , why did you switch12:16
AshexYou just need to know your way around linux12:16
[Evil] [Ernie] well... because windows is basically12:16
[Evil] [Ernie] not how you want it12:16
RawSewageDid it have anything to do with the 'You have 6 days to Activate" message12:16
[Evil] [Ernie] it's how microsoft wants it12:16
[Evil] [Ernie] and if they expect me to pay upwards of $200 per copy (since you need one for EACH of your computers)12:17
AshexI did a crash course on linux, 7 distro's in 2 weeks, and broke linux in everyway I could think of12:17
[Evil] [Ernie] then its going to be how I want it12:17
[Evil] [Ernie] lol12:17
RawSewageYes, Windows today is what AOL was to the internet12:17
RawSewageIt's for people that don't know anything about computers and need to be spoonfed12:17
AshexHeh12:17
RawSewageoops12:17
RawSewageWrong channel12:17
Ashexwhenever I boot into Windows, I just get angry12:17
dmoynedefrysk: I have done as said where is buil-essential involved12:17
[Evil] [Ernie] windows is aggravating12:17
[Evil] [Ernie] especially my documents12:18
[Evil] [Ernie] i hate my documents12:18
Scorpmoonblabla(windows bashing)blabla12:18
[Evil] [Ernie] my pictures, my music, all this useless clutter12:18
defryskdmoyne, what do you want to compile ?12:18
Scorpmoonmake linux better and stop bashing :)12:18
[Evil] [Ernie] etc12:18
[Evil] [Ernie] yessir12:18
AshexKubuntu runs smoothly for me, but whenever i boot into windows it's sluggish, it's really frustrating >:(12:18
dmoyneok I want to recompile festival12:18
Scorpmooni insert kubuntu CD and it just stops12:18
kuzmasterwhen i type sudo dpkg --configure -a, what should happen?12:18
kane_[Evil] [Ernie] : i belive you are allowed to install copies of XP on utmost 3 home machines12:18
Scorpmoonis that better12:18
[Evil] [Ernie] hmm12:19
kane_[Evil] [Ernie] : with a single license12:19
Ashexanyone feel like taking a look at my sources real quick? my repositories need some tweaking12:19
Child4Christyour not allowed to12:19
kuzmasterwhen i type sudo dpkg --configure -a, what should happen?12:19
Child4Christhave to buy a licence for additional computers12:19
[Evil] [Ernie] kane_12:19
[Evil] [Ernie] when you call to verify your windows and activate it12:19
kane_Child4Christ: the last time i read the EULA, it said differently12:19
defryskdmoyne, why do you want to recompile it ? its in the repos12:19
Child4Christpeople read them? O.O12:19
[Evil] [Ernie] they give you problems if the cd key is used on more than one computer12:19
RawSewagetj9991, you should instal kdf and run Kwikdisk.  Its an icon your tray, and show you how much space you have on your drives12:20
Ashexthat's why you build all your boxes with the same hardware12:20
kane_[Evil] [Ernie] : ive never called them ;)12:20
tj9991maybe later12:20
Child4Christlast time i heard you had to pay extra to use it on another box :/12:20
Ashexand install on one then clone the drive!12:20
dmoynebecause this is to recompile it with Mbrola French voices12:20
[Evil] [Ernie] *shrug*12:20
kane_[Evil] [Ernie] : maybe because ive never had a legal copy of windows ...12:20
tj9991im going to try to get a speedsolve soon12:20
kane_[Evil] [Ernie] : but anyway ... ive read the EULA12:20
[Evil] [Ernie] lol12:20
tj9991ill break the 40 second barrier some day12:20
kuzmasterive tried sudo dpkg --configure -a, but adept still wont work12:20
[Evil] [Ernie] k12:21
RawSewagetj9991, Idle in Boringville until we can reg it12:21
[Evil] [Ernie] well i do have one legal copy12:21
kuzmasterand ive dont apt-get update12:21
[Evil] [Ernie] and they dont want it on my other computers12:21
defryskdmoyne, now sudo apt-get build dep festival12:21
[Evil] [Ernie] feel kind of burned about that one :P fetchers12:21
Ashexkuzmaster: apt-get check?12:21
kuzmasterk12:21
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defryskdmoyne, to get the needed dependencies to compile12:21
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kuzmasterand apt-get update says the same massage as b412:21
[Evil] [Ernie] !tell me about adept12:21
kuzmaster!adept12:22
ubotumethinks adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto12:22
dmoynedefrysk: you mean fakeroot12:22
[Evil] [Ernie] ubotu is pretty sexy ;)12:22
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [Evil] [Ernie] 12:22
[Evil] [Ernie] err12:22
defryskdmoyne, no that for later12:22
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admin_ima li bulgari v tozi kanal?12:23
[Evil] [Ernie] oh, nifty12:23
cox377kane_ where did you hear about that with the M$ licences?12:23
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[Evil] [Ernie] so i dont have to mess around with compiling and all that terminal stuff to install software?12:23
cox377kane_: where did you hear about that with the M$ licences?12:23
[Evil] [Ernie] adept does it?12:23
dmoyneI am lost : I started to fakeroot the source ; why not sudo now ?sudo12:23
defryskdmoyne, if you do not listen to me neveri=mind then12:23
[Evil] [Ernie] cox377: he said he read the EULA even though hes never owned a legitimate copy12:24
defryskask someone else then12:24
dmoyneI will of course but this to understand12:24
kuzmasterapt-get update just stays stuck on 0%12:24
cox377Sorry evil12:24
kuzmasterand adept still dosnt work12:24
kuzmasterafter doin apt-get check12:24
defryskapt-get build dep is installing packages you need this requires sudo12:24
kuzmasterme?12:24
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kuzmasterdefrysk, me?12:25
defryskkuzmaster, no not you12:25
kuzmasterk12:25
xstMy firefox freezes VERY often after upgrading to dapper. And often (but not always) when I switch desktop. Anyone else with that problem?12:25
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RawSewageNo, becaues I use Konqueror12:26
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kuzmasterand ive had the same problems last time i installed kubuntu 6.0612:26
dmoyneI have a problem "sudo apt-get build dep festival" returns "E: L'opration build n'est pas valable" meaning buil not valid12:26
RawSewageKonqueror is a very underrated browser12:26
kuzmasteri re-installed becuase of that problem12:26
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kuzmasterand im getting the same errors as last time12:26
kuzmasterwhy does it hate me?12:26
cox377does anyone know if there is anyway to change a system tray icon?? for example the blue box of this IRC chat?12:26
defryskdmoyne, you have the souce repos uncommented and also universe and multivere ?12:26
RawSewagexst, but what do you mean by freezes12:27
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defrysksource repos*12:27
kuzmastercan somone please give me their sources.list so i know that my installation is fucked?12:27
Hobbsee!repos12:27
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.12:27
kuzmasterand sorry for the launguage?12:27
kuzmasterNO12:27
imbrandon!language12:27
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.12:27
kuzmasterive tried that and it dosnt work12:27
kane_Hobbsee: you're doing a pretty great job!!12:28
kuzmasteryeah, i said sorry12:28
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Hobbseekuzmaster: they do work.12:28
Ashexkuzmaster: did you try a apt-get check?12:28
xstRawSewage: The window content is not updated and firefox has to be manually terminated in order to close it. E.g. when switching desktops, the old desktop content is shown in the firefox windows.12:28
kuzmasternot for me12:28
defryskHobbsee, kuzmaster is "locked"12:28
kuzmasterill try it again12:28
Hobbseemth`MAW: please get rid of that away message12:28
Hobbseedefrysk: locked?12:28
kuzmasterwat, im locked?12:28
AshexI had this problem not long ago12:28
kuzmasterwat dose that mean?12:28
Ashexit was due to a broken package12:28
Hobbseesud dpkg-configure -a12:28
Hobbseesudo dpkg-configure -a12:29
defryskHobbsee, already told him12:29
Hobbseemight be reconfigure12:29
imbrandonps ax|grep dpkg12:29
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imbrandonkill -9 <pid>12:29
imbrandonsudo kill -9 <pid>12:29
Ashexkuzmaster: have you used automatix recently?12:29
kuzmasternope12:30
xstI wan't to file a bug report on the firefox freezes but for that I would like some stacktrace stuff or similar. How do I produce relevant debugging output for the bug report?12:30
ChefWill_anyone use xmms-kde ?12:30
imbrandonkuzmaster: open a konsole and type "ps ax|grep dpkg" tell me what you see12:30
kuzmasterok12:30
kuzmasterhang on12:30
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kuzmasterdo i need to be root?12:30
imbrandonno12:30
kuzmasterk12:30
Hobbseexst: gdb programname12:30
kuzmasteri get this...12:31
kuzmaster 6573 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep dpkg12:31
defryskkuzmaster, you have a seperate root account ?12:31
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kuzmasternope12:31
defryskok12:31
kuzmasteri just installed12:31
imbrandonok kuzmaster now type ....12:31
defryskkuzmaster, was just curious12:31
kuzmastertype wat?12:31
Ashexsudo kill -9 657312:32
imbrandonkuzmaster: "sudo updatedb & && sudo locate dpkg.lock"12:32
imbrandonAshex: no12:32
defryskdmoyne, how is it going ?12:32
[Evil] [Ernie] this may be a stupid question12:32
imbrandonAshex: thats just his grep12:32
dmoynelet me check !12:32
[Evil] [Ernie] i selected stuff to install in adept manager12:32
xstHobbsee: thanks12:32
AshexOh, right12:32
kuzmasteri get sudo updatedb & && sudo locate dpkg.lock12:32
AshexI blame the time of night12:32
kuzmastersorry12:32
kuzmasteri get bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'12:32
[Evil] [Ernie] what next?12:32
imbrandonok just type "sudo updatedb &"12:33
dmoyneI have added multiverse but no progress maybe If you check my sources.list can I send to you ?12:33
kuzmasterk12:33
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kuzmaster[1]  657412:33
kuzmasterthats what i got12:33
kuzmasterand what is all this for?12:33
imbrandonok12:33
defryskdmoyne, I'll provide you with a link explaining checkinstall , might be usefull for you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235612:33
imbrandonits updateing locate12:33
kuzmasterok........12:33
imbrandonhit enter till you see something else12:33
Tallia1Kubuntuhi guys, can i ask you if you know way to watch the Soccer World cup in streaming??12:33
kuzmasterand that is?12:34
dmoyneok I read12:34
Ashexso, I'm guessing nobody really knows what may cause this to show up during apt-get install? http://pastebin.com/71039612:34
imbrandonlocate is a program12:34
Child4Christjust wondering, why is it only BSD uses my sound card right? i have an Avance Logic one that uses the ALS4000 driver, everytime its stopped being used system sounds keep repeating for a bit and xmms for one keeps sayin my sound card isnt configged right but after a few tries it plays again, anyone know why?12:34
kuzmaster[1] +  Done                    sudo updatedb12:34
imbrandonok kuzmaster now type ...12:34
imbrandonsudo locate lock|grep dpkg12:34
defryskdmoyne, tha packages you make with checkinstall are for personal use only12:34
dmoyneok I will follow the procedure !12:35
defryskdmoyne, the part about sources.list can be skipped in that link12:35
kuzmasterimbrandon, results http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71042812:35
defryskdmoyne, ?12:35
dmoyneyes !12:35
defryskdmoyne, the part about sources.list can be skipped in that link12:35
defryskgot that ?12:35
imbrandonkuzmaster: ok "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"12:35
dmoyneyes but I sill have to check that I have properly modified my file as you suggested12:36
kuzmasternothing12:36
defryskdmoyne, yes12:36
imbrandonkuzmaster: now try "sudo apt-get update"12:36
dmoyneI have to install checkinstall as well : being done12:37
defryskdmoyne,  good :)12:37
kuzmasterthis is what i got last time i did that http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71042312:37
imbrandonjust now ?12:37
kuzmasterno, last time12:38
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kuzmasterbut this installation12:38
Ashexwell, it's almost 4am12:38
kuzmasteri also got that last installation12:38
imbrandonkuzmaster: no do it again12:38
kuzmasteri am12:38
Ashexand since I don't have any problems that need to be answered soon12:38
[Evil] [Ernie] lol12:38
[Evil] [Ernie] actually i dont see the commit button in adept12:38
Ashexand everyone here has way more experience with kubuntu then i do12:38
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AshexI'm gong to call it a night12:38
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[Evil] [Ernie] only "preview" where "commit" should be12:38
Ashex[Evil] [Ernie] : click apply12:38
Ashexor something like that12:39
[Evil] [Ernie] apply is grayed out12:39
kuzmasterimbrandon, the results are the same so far12:39
[Evil] [Ernie] as is fetch updates12:39
Tallia1Kubuntuhi guys, can i ask you if you know way to watch the Soccer World cup in streaming??12:39
imbrandonkuzmaster: change to a diff mirror12:39
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imbrandonif you are timing out12:39
Ashexdid you give it the password?12:39
[Evil] [Ernie] ...!12:39
prxqTallia1Kubuntu: I bet you can find payperview streams with the help of google.12:39
[Evil] [Ernie] *smack head*12:40
[Evil] [Ernie] i think when i ran it from console i didnt use sudo!12:40
AshexHA12:41
Ashexit should be in the kde start menu too12:41
dmoynedefrysk: stupid question : when you add multiverse and universe can you keep restricted !!!12:41
imbrandonyes12:41
[Evil] [Ernie] just looked again and didnt see it in the start menu12:41
imbrandondmoyne: yes12:41
defryskdmoyne, yes12:41
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Ashexit should be under system12:41
[Evil] [Ernie] ah12:41
defryskdmoyne, when added mage sure to apt-get update12:42
defrysksudo apt-get update12:42
[Evil] [Ernie] i think im just going blind12:42
dmoyneah I am nut12:42
[Evil] [Ernie] found it though12:42
defryskdmoyne, when done all that sudo apt-get build dep festival12:42
dmoyneok I will do12:43
Ashexwell, I'm going to bed12:44
Ashexnight guys12:44
[Evil] [Ernie] gnite12:44
[Evil] [Ernie] thanks for all your help12:44
dmoynedefrysk: still the same error message !12:44
Ashexno problem12:44
kuzmasterimbrandow, pm12:44
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defryskimbrandon, is it build-dep or build dep ?12:45
imbrandonbuild-dep12:45
defryskdmoyne, sorry its build-dep12:45
defryskthanks imbrandon12:45
imbrandonnp12:45
imbrandoni'm off to sleep12:46
imbrandongnight all12:46
defrysknight :012:46
kuzmasterimbrandon, heres what i get after apt-get update12:46
kuzmasterhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71044212:46
imbrandon*looks*12:46
dmoynedo not feel sorry you are still my Guru ; I am presently build-deping12:46
defryskdmoyne, you have a source for festival downloaded ?12:46
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dmoynedefrysk: done yes12:47
imbrandonkuzmaster: your internet connection is timing out to the au. servers might try a diffrent one by editing sources.list12:47
kuzmastercan someone please just give me there sources.list12:47
kuzmasterok12:47
imbrandonkuzmaster: here is mine ......12:47
defryskdmoyne, unpack the source12:47
kuzmasterwat do i change the country code to?12:47
kuzmasterand thanks12:47
Doati want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu so i installed kubuntu-desktop package but the desktop still looks the same as gnome.. is this really kde?12:47
imbrandonkuzmaster: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/sources.list12:47
kuzmasterthanks12:47
imbrandon^^ thats the usa servers btw12:48
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RawSewageNo, KDE doesnt look like Gnome12:48
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dmoyneso I have 3 files a diif.gz a dsc and az tar.gz12:48
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kuzmasterk12:48
defryskkuzmaster, I usually just remove the countrycode12:48
imbrandonRawSewage: my kde looks like windows ;)12:48
DoatRawSewage, then what should i do?12:48
RawSewageimbrandon, I know12:48
dmoyneI will have to upgrade !12:48
DarkWizzardhey all :)12:48
RawSewageimbrandon, I think I saw a screenshot of it12:48
DarkWizzardhave a big big problem12:49
defryskdmoyne, sure if you have to :)12:49
imbrandonDoat: when you log in before choose the session type as KDE12:49
kuzmasterdefrysk, dose it work?12:49
DarkWizzardafter updating to dapper my 3d accelerotion doesn't work12:49
RawSewageDoat, maybe reboot and select KDE from the login screen12:49
dmoynecan I use a command on the tared file ?12:49
defryskkuzmaster, works for my and with dns probs change http to ftp12:49
DarkWizzardthe Xorg.0.log show that everithing is ok12:49
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kuzmasterok12:49
DarkWizzardbut glxinfo shows no direct rendering12:49
DoatRawSewage, hmm.. ok12:49
kuzmasterto much tweaking for me sorry12:49
DarkWizzardI would need to load kernel module drm12:49
RawSewageimbrandon, you should install that on a Windows computer user and tell them it's Vista12:49
DarkWizzardbut it can't be12:50
dmoyneor do I have first to untar ?12:50
defrysktar zxvf <sourcepackage>12:50
imbrandonlol RawSewage http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot2.png12:50
imbrandonok i'm off to bed, gnight12:50
kuzmasterjust a note, on both installations, when i first opend sources.list as root, it said...12:50
RawSewageimbrandon, oh, I guess I saw someone else's yesterday.  They had the START menu12:50
kuzmasterurl malformed12:50
kuzmasteror somthing like that12:50
RawSewageimbrandon, the exact Windows START menu logo12:51
imbrandonRawSewage: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot1.png12:51
dmoynedefrysk: can I use a command on the tared file or do I have first to untar ?12:51
imbrandon;)12:51
defryskdmoyne, tar zxvf <sourcepackage>12:51
RawSewagelol12:51
defryskdmoyne, tu unpack it12:51
imbrandonthats the good thing about making your own theme ;)12:51
kuzmasterafter changing sources.list, do i got apt-get update12:51
imbrandonRawSewage: it might have been someone that just had my theme installed12:51
imbrandontoo12:52
kuzmastergo**12:52
RawSewageimbrandon, You made that theme?12:52
defrysktu pac or tu unpack thats the question12:52
imbrandonRawSewage: yes12:52
RawSewagecool12:52
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imbrandonRawSewage: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/theme/royale/12:52
dmoynedefrysk: untared accomplished how to upgrade ?12:53
defryskcd <tothatfolder>12:53
dmoynedone12:53
imbrandondefrysk: nah the saying is "make install;not war"  ;)12:54
fabio_salve12:54
RawSewageimbrandon, Thats a diff Start button12:54
defryskdmoyne, ./configure12:54
kuzmasterohhhhhh, adept/sources.list hates me12:54
defryskhehe imbrandon :D12:54
kuzmasterit NEVER works12:54
dmoyneI have not used the diff file  yet ?12:54
imbrandonRawSewage: when you download the startbutton replace the tux_start.png with xp_start.png , i dont make the windows on public12:54
kuzmasternope12:54
kuzmasterdont no how12:54
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defryskdmoyne, I thought you had one for french support seperatly downloaded ?12:54
dmoynehoops : the idea is to get a source of festival to be recompiled in another process12:55
kuzmasterimbrandon, even with the us mirros, it still times out12:56
kuzmastermirror**12:56
kuzmasteri keep getting cto's12:56
dmoynedefrysk: but my question was I had with the tared file a diff file to update the tared source ; sofar it has not been used12:57
defryskdmoyne, if you wish to use the one from the repo its easy to compile a .deb12:57
kuzmasterhelp?12:57
blush_how can i see the driver used in a network interface?12:57
defryskdmoyne, all you have to do is fakeroot apt-get source -b festival12:58
defryskand a .deb wil be build for you automaticly12:58
[Evil] [Ernie] anyone know how to get wireless working on kunbuntu? or a link to that information12:58
kuzmasterkubuntu 6.06 hates me12:58
kuzmasterive tried everything12:58
kuzmasterand it just dosnt work12:58
dmoyneso you mean I fakeroot in my untared folder12:59
defryskdmoyne, no12:59
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defryskI thought you had a seperate source of festival with french support12:59
dmoynedefry12:59
dmoynedefrysk: I ma lost now12:59
Healothi kubuntuans01:00
defryskdmoyne, you do not have to compile festival its in the repos01:00
blush_[Evil] [Ernie] , there is a lot of information in the wiki. Anyway, that doesn't help me so much01:00
imbrandon[Evil] [Ernie] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs01:00
defryskjust sudo apt-get install festival01:00
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[Evil] [Ernie] thank you01:01
dmoynedefrysk: being done but I do not understand what we are doing after loading a source in my domain01:01
[Evil] [Ernie] i should have looked first, kubuntu has a wireless assistant01:01
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defryskdmoyne, you can delete those01:02
[Evil] [Ernie] i think my question should have been how do i activate my wireless card on this laptop01:02
kuzmasterwould my router be blocking adept?01:02
defryskyou dont need tham01:02
[Evil] [Ernie] but, i will check the wiki, it might say01:02
kuzmastercould that happen?01:02
kuzmastercould it?01:03
defryskdmoyne, when you need more festival related packages , just do apt-cache search festival01:03
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defryskdmoyne, my apologies for the misunderstandings ;)01:03
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exceswaterhello01:04
exceswaterhi defrysk01:04
blush_i think i'll change to Fedora Core again. Wireless with Boradcom and wpa it's being quite annoying01:04
defrysktime to take the dog out01:04
defryskWraF!01:04
exceswaterhehe01:04
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exceswaterwoof woof01:04
dmoynedefrysk: maybe I shoud have explained the idea behind all this ! : to recomplile Franfest + Mbrola + Festival and I wanted to provide to this processus the path of a freh Festival source but I knew that festival was in the repos and that it was working well in English but not in French !!!01:04
exceswateri have a question... again01:04
exceswaterto make a shortcut on the desktop01:05
exceswateri should use konsole01:05
exceswatercd to where i want to01:05
joshis it possible for my wireless router to block or interfere with adept?01:05
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exceswaterand after that: ln -s path to file ?01:05
exceswaterbut i want shortcut for a file.. not for a dir01:05
kuzmasteris it?01:05
defryskdmoyne, afaIk festival is not available in French at all01:05
dmoynethios I know but there is a possibility with Franfest using Festival + Mbrola with French voicies !01:06
kuzmasteris it possible for my wireless router to block or interfere with adept?01:06
kuzmasterim gonna re-start, that might help01:07
dmoynedefrysk: the guy in charge of this provide a script to be executed this script loads a Festival source when you do not provide a path to a source but it failed ; he proposed to work with a 64 bit Ubuntu Festival source that may have special feature for the global compilation process to succed of course everything to be installed in /usr/local to avoid interference with Ubuntu Festival executables !01:10
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Doatok i got to kde now but all the menus are full of gnome apps. is there an easy way to remove them?01:14
[Evil] [Ernie] in network settings - system settings i click enable on my wireless card01:14
[Evil] [Ernie] it enables for about 1 second then disables again01:14
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dmoynedefrysk: thanks for all thgis information01:16
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dmoynebye !01:17
kronozhow does the windows free softare pop up on kubuntu cd for windows work? is it qt? or gtk or gtk+qt01:17
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jeroenvrpHobbsee: ping01:28
Hobbseejeroenvrp: pong01:28
Hobbsee(sorta)01:28
jeroenvrpHobbsee: did you remember the keyboardproblem I sometimes have01:29
jeroenvrpand you also01:29
Hobbseejeroenvrp: oh, was that you?  i got you mixed with jsgotangco01:29
Hobbseeyep01:29
jeroenvrpI bought a new keyboard and still the same problems01:29
jeroenvrpI've made a bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/4977901:29
jeroenvrpFYI01:29
Hobbseelooking...01:30
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Hobbseejeroenvrp: do we have a clue where it's supposed to be assigned to?01:31
Hobbseejeroenvrp: and this happens on both kde and gnome right?01:31
jeroenvrpHobbsee: I don't know about gnome01:31
Hobbseeah ok01:31
jeroenvrpI don't have that01:31
jeroenvrpit must be profile related I think01:32
jeroenvrpor user related01:32
jeroenvrpI keep an extra (tail -f) eye on the X-log01:32
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erik_will KDE be upgraded to 3.5.3 in official Kubuntu, or will we have to wait for next Kubuntu release for that01:34
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chavoerik_, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php01:36
erik_chavo: that's not official packages01:36
Hobbseeerik_: next kubuntu release01:37
Hobbseeand they're mostly official01:37
erik_anyway, they broke dependencies when I tried them so I re-installed kubuntu and decided to wait for official01:37
erik_Hobbsee: wehn do you think we'll get official 3.5.3 debs?01:37
Hobbseeerik_: edgy01:38
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defryskerik_, did you try kubuntu-desktop ?01:39
Child4Christi used alien to convert the java rpm to deb, an app says it isnt installed an its in a dir, should i have installed it a different way?01:39
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defryskChild4Christ, wrong choice01:39
defrysk!java01:40
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs01:40
Child4Christthx :)01:40
erik_defrysk: I pointed to the 3.5.3 sources and performed a dist-upgrade01:40
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defryskerik_, I did it too and worked like a charm01:40
defryskerik_, I usually do and "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" after01:41
defryskto make sure to get is all01:41
prxqHi. I can't seem to change the color scheme of my konsole (in dapper)01:41
defryskprxq, yes01:41
[Evil] [Ernie] i just realized you can't really see how much harddisk space you have left =o01:42
prxqdefrysk: yes what :-) ?01:42
defryskyou should be able to01:42
defryskprxq, had to re-read your q01:42
prxqoh.01:43
Hobbseeprxq: settings, configure konsole, schema01:43
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prxqWell, when I change the scheme, the konsole blinks but stays that way01:43
Child4Christdo i need to change the sources cause it says it cant find it :/01:43
HobbseeChild4Christ: yes, you need multiverse01:44
HobbseeChild4Christ: add " multiverse" after where it has universe01:44
Child4Christthx :)01:44
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[Evil] [Ernie] holy freaking crap01:45
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[Evil] [Ernie] apparently this installed /home to the partition i wanted to use for a swap file01:45
Tallia1Kubuntuhi guys, can i ask you if you know way to watch the Soccer World cup in streaming?? i know there's a free way of watching them on some chinese channels, i really hope that you know something about it01:45
[Evil] [Ernie] and now my swap is installed to the partition i wanted for /home01:45
[Evil] [Ernie] which is 44 gb01:45
[Evil] [Ernie] haha01:45
[Evil] [Ernie] ridiculous!01:45
defryskprxq, you use xgl or something perhaps ?01:47
HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or something...01:47
prxqdefrysk: nope. kubuntu default install. Well, on an amd6401:47
defryskprxq, or a custom theme ?01:47
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Child4Christseems to have worked, thx guys ^-^01:48
HobbseeChild4Christ: not a problem01:48
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prxqdefrysk: neither. Really the default kde install.01:49
Child4Christlol now i dont have to throw the box out the window01:49
defryskprxq, honestly no clue then01:49
prxqdefrysk: if i try to set colors, I can select one but after selecting it, the shown color is the old one (in the dialog)01:49
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Child4Christi can only assume this is a bad thing: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:56
Child4Christ:/01:56
kronozChild4Christ: er just run the operation again01:57
kronozChild4Christ: it doesn't really matter, it won't cuase any harm at01:57
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Child4Christsays theres unmet dependencies01:58
kronozChild4Christ: apt-get -f install01:58
apokryphosChild4Christ: what are you trying to install and what are they?01:58
Child4Christsame thing :/01:58
Child4Christsun-java5-jdk <-- this for P2P clients01:58
Child4Christlimewire and frostwire use java01:59
kronoz!java-package01:59
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kronoz01:59
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apokryphosChild4Christ: are you following the proper guide to get that package?01:59
Child4Christyup01:59
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kronoz!java01:59
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs01:59
Healot!repos01:59
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.01:59
apokryphosChild4Christ: so you're getting them from multiverse?01:59
Child4Christi just run apt-get install that and it gives me errors an now dependencies needed01:59
Child4Christyup01:59
apokryphosChild4Christ: can you pastebin the errors?01:59
Child4Christsure02:00
Healotdapper repos, not dapper-backports repos02:00
Child4Christumm, how do i use it?02:00
apokryphosChild4Christ: /msg ubotu pastebin02:00
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Child4Christty02:00
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Child4Christdo i put my name under name then click send?02:03
apokryphosChild4Christ: sure02:03
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apokryphosChild4Christ: then produce the URL here02:03
Child4Christhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1576202:03
=== defrysk has the total xp look now not sure if i dhould be happy ;s but thanks imbrandon
apokryphosChild4Christ: what happens if you sudo apt-get -f install as mentioned above?02:05
Child4Christnot sure, lemme try02:05
Hobbseeor apt-get build-dep packagename02:05
apokryphoswhy? ;-)02:06
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Child4Christsame thing02:06
Hobbseethere was a reason.02:06
Child4Christbuild-deps doin somethin02:07
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apokryphosChild4Christ: no, that won't do it. That's just for getting build-dependencies.02:07
Child4Christo02:07
apokryphosChild4Christ: is it the *exact* same error with apt-get -f install?02:07
Child4Christyea, dependencies02:08
apokryphosChild4Christ: what happens if you sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb02:08
Child4Christerrors02:09
apokryphosChild4Christ: what errors?02:09
Child4Christsubprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 <-- only error it says, otherwise just says "errors"02:10
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zax1shortly after the installer retrieves (some 257 software ) packages for installation, and then unpacking and installing. the nstaller crashes. i am installing XUBUNTU, any one ever had similar expiriences ? any suggestions ?( by the way, the same laptop was fine when i installed win 2000,kubuntu and ubuntu)02:10
apokryphosChild4Christ: could you pastebin what it says exactly?02:11
apokryphosit is a very weird error...02:11
Child4Christsure02:11
Child4Christhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1576302:12
Child4Christsorry is this is causing problems02:12
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georgeblunthey there02:13
exceswaterhi all02:13
exceswateri have a question02:13
exceswaterfew minutes before02:13
apokryphosChild4Christ: don't be, we're here to help :)02:13
exceswateri've seen that updates are available02:13
georgeblunt!xfree86-dga02:13
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, georgeblunt02:13
exceswateri hit applu02:13
exceswaterand adept updater started02:14
exceswaterand somewhere in the middle crashed02:14
exceswaternow it seems something else is using adept02:14
exceswaterand i cannot upgrade02:14
Child4Christthx, i appreciate it ^-^02:14
exceswaterwhat can i do02:14
georgebluntexceswater: i had the excact same problem a few days ago02:14
exceswaterand ?02:14
georgebluntlet me think... hehe02:14
exceswaterit was a big download... 29 M02:15
exceswaterand it crashed02:15
exceswaterthere is no CTRL-ALT_DEL in linux :D ?02:15
Child4Christctrl+alt+del twice restarts the computer02:15
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exceswateroic02:15
Child4Christdoes for me anyway :)02:15
georgeblunttry: sudo dpkg --configure -a02:15
apokryphosChild4Christ: hm, I just looked at a bug report...02:16
exceswaterwhat does that ?02:16
apokryphostry installing from adept or synaptic02:16
Child4Christits a bug?02:16
georgebluntexceswater: i had the problem, that it crashed during configuration.. this finishes all configuration tasks02:16
Child4Christdo you know the package name for adept?02:16
exceswateri understand02:16
exceswaterthank you02:17
exceswater:d02:17
georgebluntnp ^^02:17
apokryphosChild4Christ: it is, yes.02:18
apokryphosChild4Christ: install that same sun package you were trying02:18
georgebluntdoes anyone know anything about the xfree86-dga extension?02:18
apokryphosChild4Christ: sun-java5-jre02:19
exceswaterit worked now02:19
exceswater10x02:19
Child4Christthx apokryphos, tryin to get adept to work :)02:19
georgebluntexceswater: great :D02:20
Child4Christok umm, shouldnt be runnin 4 times an not on my screen right?02:20
apokryphosChild4Christ: sorry?02:21
Child4Christadept didnt show up so i ps aux | grep adept and it looks like its running 4 times02:21
Child4Christthing is i dont see it :/02:21
apokryphosoh02:21
apokryphosChild4Christ: are you doing alt+f2 -> adept02:22
Child4Christno02:22
Child4Christshould i?02:22
Child4Christnot sure what alt+f2 does02:22
apokryphosChild4Christ: yeah, you should try it that way. Alt+f2 is KDE's quick-launcher02:22
Child4Christooo, thx!! :))))02:23
apokryphosdoes it work?02:24
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Child4Christyea, thx :)02:24
Child4Christ:D02:24
apokryphoscool02:24
Child4Christit seems to be workin :D02:25
Child4Christoh ok now i have java lol02:25
Child4Christ*hate02:25
Child4Christmore errors02:25
exceswateragain02:26
exceswaternoobie time :D02:26
exceswateri installed 3d desktop02:26
exceswaterveeeery nice02:26
exceswaterjust show this to win users and they give up win :d02:26
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exceswaterbut i dunno where to config it02:26
apokryphosChild4Christ: ok, one sec02:27
Child4Christtyt02:27
Child4Christ:)02:27
fekmoin02:27
ubuntuhi, can i install firefox within the live cd?02:28
apokryphosChild4Christ: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf02:28
apokryphosubuntu: sudo apt-get install firefox02:28
apokryphoshi fek02:28
Child4Christits given me a screen02:29
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Child4Christ"Editor" or "Noninteractive"02:29
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exceswaterwho can help me about that 3d desktop02:29
exceswater:D02:29
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apokryphosChild4Christ: no "dialog"?02:30
Child4Christno its like the install screen for 5.1002:30
apokryphosChild4Christ: you're on 5.10? :/02:30
Child4Christnah, 6.06 beta 202:30
apokryphosChild4Christ: ok, switch to editor02:30
apokryphosChild4Christ: beta 2? Why =)02:30
Child4Christbut the screen on the term is like the 5.10 installer02:31
apokryphosthat could be the cause of the problem02:31
Child4Christcause its the only one i downloaded :P02:31
Child4Christrelease wasnt out at the time ;p02:31
apokryphosChild4Christ: I recommend upgrading your system... heh, you should've mentioend that before :)02:31
apokryphosChild4Christ: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:31
Child4Christdist-upgrade?02:31
apokryphosyup02:32
Child4Christlast time i used just upgrade an it said nothin to upgrade, install etc02:32
Child4Christdoes that matter?02:32
apokryphosChild4Christ: try that now, we'll see.02:32
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Child4Christ3 not fully installed or removed. <-- might have proved a prob02:33
apokryphoshuh?02:33
exceswaterwho can help me about 3d desktop configuration please02:33
Child4Christatm its setting up libltdl302:33
apokryphosexceswater: do you mean setting up xgl+compiz?02:33
exceswaterdefrysk: are you here02:33
exceswaternope02:33
defrysk?02:34
exceswateri just installed from kubuntu: 3d desktop02:34
defrysksup ?02:34
exceswater:D02:34
exceswateri cannot config something02:34
exceswater3d desktop02:34
exceswater:D02:34
defrysk3d deskop?02:34
exceswaterthe file is installe02:34
defryskwhats that ?02:34
exceswaterinstalled02:34
exceswaterif i hit ALT - F2 and type: 3ddesk02:34
apokryphosit's a little app for some "fake" 3ddesk stuff02:34
exceswateraha02:34
exceswatersome like that02:34
apokryphosexceswater: run it from terminal, then you'll be able to see errors02:35
exceswaterlike in SUSE02:35
exceswater:D02:35
apokryphosexceswater: it's quite cool though02:35
exceswaterit works02:35
apokryphosexceswater: no, suse has the real ones ;-)02:35
defrysksuse ? whats that ?02:35
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exceswaterbut i cannot imagine how to config it02:35
Child4Christshould i just download an install the release version?02:35
exceswateranother distro02:35
apokryphosChild4Christ: nope, just execute the above command02:35
apokryphosdefrysk: /msg ubotu suse02:35
HealotSuSE - one of the best commercial bs out there :)02:36
Child4Christbs?02:36
defryskapokryphos, you really think I am that ignorent ?02:36
apokryphosdefrysk: I don't know you, so I have no idea.02:36
Child4Christi dont like SuSE, it doesnt like my sound card lol02:36
apokryphosok, anyway...... :)02:37
defrysknovell crap02:37
Healotdamn it's no crap02:37
apokryphosdefrysk: please take it to -offtopic02:37
defryskapokryphos, ?02:37
exceswaterhey hey02:37
exceswaterplease help me02:37
apokryphosdefrysk: what was unclear?02:37
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apokryphosexceswater: did you type it in the terminal?02:38
exceswaterhow can i config that 3d desk02:38
Healotexceswater: that 3ddesktop?02:38
exceswateryes02:38
apokryphosexceswater: so what does it say02:38
exceswaterit says it'a allready started02:38
exceswater:D02:38
apokryphosexceswater: ok, then you need to use one of the options to get it running02:38
defryskapokryphos, what do I have to take to aff topic ?02:38
exceswateri dunno where to find config for it02:38
defryskoff02:38
apokryphosdo 3ddesk --help or something02:38
exceswaterhow02:38
exceswaterk02:38
exceswateri try02:38
apokryphosdefrysk: your "novell crap" and other such offtopic messages.02:38
defryskoic02:38
defryskok sorry02:38
Child4Christshould have man pages for that shouldnt it?02:38
apokryphosyup02:39
apokryphosor help pages, at least02:39
Child4Christi find myself typing man app too much at times lol02:39
exceswaterit doesn't do nothing02:39
exceswater :D02:39
exceswateri google it02:39
exceswater:D02:39
exceswaterplease don't fight guys02:40
exceswater:D02:40
apokryphoson fighting here =)02:40
exceswater /\02:40
Child4Christapokryphos: do you know what libltdl3 is?02:40
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Healot!info libltdl302:41
ubotulibltdl3: (A system independent dlopen wrapper for GNU libtool), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.5.22-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 163 kB, Installed size: 236 kB02:41
Child4Christmy term still says its setting it up02:42
exceswateranyone here from romania ?02:42
HealotThe O-zone?02:42
exceswaterheeh02:43
exceswatereverybody numa numa02:43
Healoti guess there is/are someone from Romania besides you02:43
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Healotexceswater: figure out that 3ddesktop switcher yet?02:45
gilanyone have time to give me instructions on setting up bootspslash screens02:46
gili am a bit confused from most of the tutorials i have read02:46
Healotwhich tutorial might that be?02:47
Healotevery Internet/Wikiwiki tutorials is confusing :)02:47
gilyes welll...i have got  a bunch of bootsplash screens from kde-look and i want to know the most easy efficient way of implementing it02:48
Healotthose bootsplashes02:49
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gilyes!02:49
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Child4Christumm, i think it might have crashed or something02:49
Child4Christstill says the same thing :/02:49
Healotdamn gil, I only change those bootsplash for OEM... but never actually customize my own02:50
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gilok02:51
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TobberothI'm thinking of installing the kubuntu-desktop package (I'm on normal ubuntu), how much will this mess up? Will it be easy to uninstall later if I don't desire it? Is it easy to jump between gnome and KDE?02:52
Healotyup you can remove the KDE desktop packages just like any other desktop metapackages02:54
eltonHello world! I need help, can anybody help me?02:54
Healotbtw, the DM allows you to switch desktop02:54
Healot!usplash02:54
ubotuit has been said that usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto02:54
Healotgil >> that might help02:55
Tobberothsounds good02:55
eltonHello world! I need help, can anybody help me?02:55
Healotwait a sec, that the grub usplash02:56
Healot!bootsplash02:56
ubotuHealot: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:56
Healotelton: question?02:56
eltonThanks Healot02:57
eltonI'm brasilian, sorry for my bad english02:57
eltonHealot, i have problems to run MP3 files02:58
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Healot!mp302:58
ubotu[mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:58
eltonthanks02:59
eltonI'm gonna see it now02:59
eltonthanks02:59
Healotjust ask if you encounter problems02:59
eltonok03:00
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eltonI have another problem03:01
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eltonI have two sound-card in my computer03:01
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MitjaWhere can I edit preferences for saving sessions?03:01
eltonHow can I change the default option?03:01
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hurraedgehtyeah! ubuntu rulez!!!03:02
Child4Christis there a reason its stuck on this? Setting up libltdl3 (1.5.22-2) ...03:02
Healotelton: just jack the headphone/speaker to the card you desire... btw if you have built in card, you can disable it in BIOS03:03
Healotgil: for the KDE splashcreen http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=35&PHPSESSID=e69df461df369ee7b418dd47c68badc003:04
eltonok03:05
eltonthanks03:05
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Healotky, off to the TV screen03:05
gilthanks healot03:06
gili know the KDE one...thats simple/03:06
gili am trying the boot splash one03:06
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Child4Christleast bibletime works ^-^03:08
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tobberothOkey, I just did /etc/init.d kdm start03:12
tobberothand I got a KDE log in window.. but uh.. it looks exactly like gnome once started03:12
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Child4Christshouldnt look like gnome03:14
larson9999linux rocks!03:14
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Child4Christshould be a single bar on the bottom (called kicker)03:15
tobberothChild4Christ: I have a bar at the top aswell.. exactly like in GNOME :/03:15
Child4Christ...03:16
Child4Christhmm03:16
Child4Christsure you selected to log into KDE before you entered your login details?03:16
tobberothhmm..03:16
tobberothI'll try again03:16
Child4Christtheres an option on login called "Sessions" click it an select KDE03:17
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Child4Christthink its at the bottom left03:17
oemhi.how can i tell grub to boot windows first? or how can i install lilo?03:18
Child4Christwhen you boot up you have a timer, use the arrow keys on your keyboard and it stats, allows you to choose to boot windows03:18
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tobberothYeah, found the error.. wow this looks nothing like GNOME^^03:19
Child4Christlol yea, i prefer KDE :)03:19
tobberothKDE looks more like windows really..03:19
Child4Christi usually have mine looking like a mac03:19
Child4Christdoesnt have to03:20
Child4Christonce you customize it you can make it look nothing like win ;)03:20
larson9999how do you set up a global alias so that ll='s -l for everyone who logs in?03:20
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oemchild, i know that....but how can i set windows as standard?03:21
tobberothhmm, seems amarok 1.4 isn't in adept either03:21
Child4Christnot sure :/03:21
defrysktobberoth, deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main03:22
Child4Christapt-get install amarok03:22
tobberothdefrysk, I don't know what to do with that03:23
defrysktobberoth, nm then :)03:23
tobberothI tried to write apt-get deb http etc03:23
oembye guys....i'll ask you some silly questions again next week03:23
tobberothbut it didn't work03:23
Child4Christoem best to ask in a grub channel03:24
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oemi don't want to have grub...i'd prefer lilo but don't know how to install it03:24
SnakeDigg is down hahahaah!03:25
Child4Christif you made one mistake you wouldnt be able to boot anything03:25
Child4Christif grubs wrote to the mbr it would be tricky cause its whats enabling you to boot any OS03:25
tobberothI installed grub03:26
Child4Christtechnically i wouldnt advise touching the boot loader03:26
oembut if i but in a win98 cd then grub is away03:26
tobberothit was very simple03:26
tobberothit was something like root (hd0,5) then setup (hd0,0)03:26
oemcan i choose the boot.loader during the ubuntu install?03:26
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Child4Christthink ubuntu just uses grub03:27
oemok thx03:27
oemi have to go now03:27
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charlie5hi, what package would i need to install to allow mp3 files to be played (.ogg are ok) after a fresh dapper install ?03:29
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geneo91.03:29
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Child4Christthey should play in totem03:29
Child4Christbut i use xmms03:29
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charlie5i think i only have kaffeine and amarok with the fresh install03:30
charlie5xmms is a better choice ?03:31
keynecharlie5: this is gonna help you : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:31
keyneyou need libxine-extracodecs03:31
charlie5keyne: ah, much obliged :)03:32
Child4Christis there a donkey client for kubuntu?03:34
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keyneChild4Christ: yeah, you can use amule03:35
Child4Christis it avaliable via apt-get?03:35
keyneyeah, but you may need to add universe repository03:35
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Child4Christthink im gonna have to give up on the java03:39
paperangelwhats up guys03:39
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Child4Christ^-^03:40
paperangellol03:40
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paperangeli love kubuntu03:40
paperangeli usually use red hat stuf03:41
paperangelf03:41
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paperangelbut ubuntu is nice.03:41
Child4ChristBSD an CentOS is what i normally use03:41
paperangeli know a good gnutella client03:41
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paperangelfor kubuntu03:41
Child4Christwhat is it?03:41
paperangelapt-get install gtk-gnutella03:42
PlatypusHas anyone else had problems with the Kubuntu LiveCD and AMD's Cool'n'Quiet?03:42
paperangeldo you have AIM C4C03:43
Child4Christcouldnt find the package :/03:43
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paperangelare you using dapper03:44
Child4Christyea, 6.06 beta 203:44
paperangel...type apt-get update03:44
Child4Christsome index files couldnt be used :/03:45
paperangeldo you have any instant messengers03:45
Child4ChristKopete03:45
Child4Christright clicking something on the desktop seems to crash that an the desktop03:46
paperangeldo you have aol03:46
paperangeldamn03:46
Child4Christnope ^-^03:46
paperangelyour using KDE right?03:46
Child4ChristAOL free03:46
Child4Christyep03:46
paperangelwhat clients do you have03:46
paperangellike sn for03:46
Child4Christsn?03:46
paperangelscreen name03:46
Child4Christfor Kopete?03:47
Child4Christmsn03:47
paperangelyah what is it03:47
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paperangeli wat03:48
paperangelwhat kind of comp are you using03:48
paperangelwait*03:48
Child4Christ1.10 gig pent III coppermine cpu, 256 ram03:49
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paperangelhmm..03:49
paperangelwww.linuxquestions.org03:49
paperangelthat might be able to help you03:51
Child4Christanyone know if the crash is a bug?03:51
Child4Christhappens quite a bit03:51
paperangelare you fully updated?03:51
Child4Christhave to kill Kopete to get it runnin right03:51
Child4Christyup03:51
paperangeli have crashes too03:51
paperangelonly for Konqueror though03:51
paperangelnothing really big03:51
Child4Christleft BSD due to a program i want crashing an i skipped CentOS cause i want KDE, hence Kubuntu ^-^03:52
paperangelmy sn tfor msn is voice_lag@hotmail.com03:53
Child4Christdont take offense if i dont add you justy ive had some nasty people on msn before :(03:54
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Child4Christ*just03:54
paperangelah its alright bro03:54
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paperangelso, are you into angels any03:54
Child4Christdepends03:55
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Child4Christif their Gods angels, yes03:55
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paperangelgood.03:55
paperangelGod is the shiznit.03:55
paperangeli dont really follow the church though03:55
Child4Christi know satan took a load with him so angels arent always good :(03:56
paperangeli dont believe the fact that there are only 2 angels03:56
Child4Christloads more03:56
paperangelin the christian religion03:56
paperangelyah03:56
Child4Christsatans one03:56
paperangelmy favorites Gabriel03:56
Child4Christ>.<03:56
paperangeli like Raziel a lot too.03:56
|apokryphos|guys, please join us in #kubuntu-offtopic :)03:56
paperangellol alright03:57
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rene_hi04:08
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Jolly_Jumperhi#04:10
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Jolly_Jumperkomme bei meinem Problem nicht weiter. Hat jemand einen Tipp ? http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=316104:11
zax1can any one help with driver installation04:12
zax1i am running xubuntu that was installed on the backof a breezy server install04:12
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Jolly_Jumpersorry. is a english speaking channel.04:12
Jolly_Jumper:-(04:12
zax1but i need an intel driver for the display(or a better one than i am using) can anyone help?04:12
Jolly_Jumperi use 915resolution with an 1280x800 dislay04:13
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Jolly_Jumperdo somebody know a german speaking Kubuntu IRC channel?04:18
v3ctordo !de04:18
v3ctor!de04:18
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de04:18
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Jolly_Jumperthx04:18
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chellKubuntu 6.06 rules04:25
tobberothUm.. kopete doesn't seem to send my messeges04:27
Child4Christis it set to online?04:27
tobberothhmm.. seems it's just lagging really bad04:27
Child4Christyou'll have a ickle piccy on the bottom right, if its grey then its not online04:28
tobberothIt's not gray04:28
Child4Christicon representing the protocol04:28
Child4Christoh04:28
Child4Christcould be the service then04:28
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paperangeli hate kopete04:29
paperangeli like GAIM04:29
chellI love Kopete, I hate GAIM ;-)04:29
tobberothI think gaim is easier to use..04:31
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tobberothI can't get sound to work in kopete..04:31
tobberothwhen I get messages etc04:31
larson9999gaim doesn't webcam.04:31
tobberothneither do I :)04:31
larson9999or the last i looked it didn't04:31
chellI prefer KDE anyway04:32
tobberothI sorta dislike not having a sound event when I get a message04:32
larson9999i run my computer with no sound whatsoever04:32
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tobberothhmm04:33
tobberothmaybe my sound iisn't even working on KDE..04:33
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tobberothOkey, I fixed the gpg key, how do I install AmaroK 1.4?04:40
tobberothI know the apt source, but not how to use it04:40
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Child4Christtry apt-get install amaork04:40
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tobberothChild4Christ: That will install 1.3.904:41
tobberoth1.3.9 can't find my iPod04:41
Child4Christhttp://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Download04:42
Child4Christyou can get Kubuntu ver from there04:42
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tobberothNo I can't04:44
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tobberoththat's the site I'm using04:44
tobberothyou just get the apt source, I have no idea what to do with it04:44
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Child4Christsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:45
Child4Christtry adding deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main but make a #comment line before it so you can remove it if you have to04:45
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TheFuzzballhello, who knows the command for Kubuntu's Control Centre?04:46
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Child4Christclick the big K and select control center04:47
Child4Christopos, system settings04:47
Child4Christ*oops04:47
charlie5msettings ?04:47
tobberothgah, I'04:47
TheFuzzballthat makes kcontrol appear04:47
tobberothI'm having so much trouble with my ubuntu ^^ now adept won't start04:48
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qbertkubuntu no longer does dhclient on startup i have to do it manually each time, how can i correct it ?04:48
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TheFuzzballwhen command do I type as an alternative to kcontrol?04:49
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serenityhi04:56
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serenityis anyone of you using manDVD?04:57
Tommy2k4 i have it set to mount a networked pc on boot up but that pc isnt always on when i boot, any way to make it auto mount when its turned on or at least keep trying every few mins until it is04:58
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serenityi am looking for an apps to create a slideshow with ken-burns-effects...does anyone know one05:04
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DaSkreechgwenview I think?05:12
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larson9999i don't konw about that but apparently kuickshow doesn't work in dapper so i'm using gwenview as a replacement.  the only thing it doesn't have i want is the ability to scroll through pictures with the wheel.05:14
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Bassettswhere are the kubuntu forums?05:19
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niekieBassetts, http://kubuntuforums.net/05:20
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Bassettsthanks05:20
CPU_Wizardhello everybody!05:20
niekieHi CPU_Wizard.05:21
CPU_Wizardi have a problem with kubuntu :-)05:21
Tallia1KubuntuCPU_Wizard: hi sweetie05:21
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CPU_Wizardhello Tallia1Kubuntu :-)05:21
Tallia1Kubuntujust kidding :)05:21
CPU_Wizardi have an HP zd8000 series laptop05:21
Tallia1Kubuntui have the third leg05:21
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gsuvegre05:21
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CPU_Wizardand i tried to install kubuntu 6.0605:21
CPU_Wizardi have some problems though....05:21
gsuvegwhere can i setup /msg nickserver ... in konversation ?05:21
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CPU_Wizardhow can i configure the fan and cpu control?05:22
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CPU_Wizardmy laptop gets very hot...05:22
CPU_Wizardany idea?05:22
Tallia1KubuntuCPU_Wizard: klaptopdaemon05:22
CPU_Wizardi have to download it?05:23
Tallia1Kubuntuyou can't control directly the fan05:23
drayenanyone managed to get 64bit kubuntu working with a broadcom wireless card?05:23
Tallia1Kubuntumhhhh, dunno :)05:23
Tallia1Kubuntutry to start it! :)05:23
CPU_Wizardok, i have another problem too :-)05:23
Tallia1Kubuntu?05:23
CPU_Wizardonce i insert a cd in the tray, i can't eject it05:23
CPU_Wizardlol :-)05:23
CPU_Wizardwhat's responsible for this?05:23
Tallia1KubuntuCPU_Wizard: maybe because once you put the CD inside it is mounted05:24
uniqthe linux kernel locks the device when it's in use.05:24
uniqthat's why.05:24
Tallia1Kubuntuso you have to unmount it before ejecting05:24
[zev] unmount it05:24
uniqright click on the cd device and "eject" it will be ejected.05:24
CPU_Wizardi try it but it says that the system uses the cd05:24
CPU_Wizard(something like that)05:24
uniqthen something is using the cd.05:24
uniqa window open browsing the cd or something similar.05:25
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CPU_Wizardobviously.... i 'll try to unmount it from the console05:25
svivianCPU_Wizard: I bet when you put the cd in, Konquerer opened a window or tab somewhere. Make sure you close out anythign it might have opened05:25
Tallia1KubuntuCPU_Wizard: try "eject" in the console05:25
CPU_Wizardno app is running!05:25
CPU_Wizardi'll try all these things!05:25
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Tallia1Kubuntuor otherwise you can kill all the applications that are using it automatically05:26
Tallia1Kubuntuthere is a command to do that05:26
Tallia1Kubuntugimme a sc05:26
Tallia1Kubuntusec05:26
uniqcpu_wizard: in console you can use 'umount -l /dev/cdrom' and then eject.05:26
CPU_Wizardok05:26
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uniqtallia1kubuntu: fuser05:26
CPU_Wizarduniq, i 'll try it!05:26
CPU_Wizardi downloaded kubuntu dvd05:26
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CPU_Wizardbut i can't install packages from add/remove05:27
CPU_Wizard(all things go wrong with me :-))05:27
Tallia1Kubuntuok found05:27
Tallia1Kubuntukill -k /dev/cdrom05:27
svivianCPU_Wizard: You aren't the only one05:27
CPU_Wizardthank you Tallia1Kubuntu!05:27
Tallia1Kubuntuto kill all the process using the cdrom, or05:27
CPU_Wizardi'll give it a try05:27
Tallia1Kubuntukill - v /dev/cdrom05:27
Tallia1Kubuntuto know which process were using it05:27
Tallia1Kubuntuafter killing the application try the eject option you tried before05:28
uniqtallia1kubuntu: you mean 'fuser -vkm /dev/cdrom' don't you?05:28
Tallia1Kubuntuoh, sorry :)05:28
Tallia1Kubuntuyeah :D05:28
CPU_Wizardok!05:28
uniqas far as i know kill don't have a -k option.05:28
DaSkreechgsuveg: Got an answer?05:28
CPU_Wizardanyone tried to install kubuntu on a laptop?05:28
uniqcpu_wizard: i'm running kubuntu on my apple ibook.05:29
CPU_Wizardreally? cool!05:29
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CPU_Wizardmy laptop gets very hot05:29
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Tallia1KubuntuCPU_Wizard: i have been running kubuntu for a year... actually even more :)05:29
tobberothWhat do I do if I don't get sounds on KDE? (Except mp3 playing, which wors perfectly)05:29
CPU_WizardTallia1Kubuntu, you are very lucky :-)05:29
Tallia1Kubuntuthat's because ACPI is not enabled05:29
sdlnxgkhow can I run programs as root???05:29
Tallia1Kubuntusudo05:30
Tallia1Kubuntusdlnxgk: sudo COMMAND05:30
tobberothACPI?05:30
CPU_Wizardthe only distro that worked for me is suse 10.1 buti it's really heavy05:30
CPU_Wizardand slow05:30
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CPU_Wizardso i want to try a few more times to make kubuntu work05:30
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Tallia1Kubuntukubuntu worked perfectly for me05:30
Tallia1Kubuntuand at the first try :)05:30
Tallia1Kubuntuand i didn't know ANYTHING about linux before trying it from scratch05:31
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CPU_Wizardi'm jellous! i'm going to format my disc right now!05:31
CPU_Wizardand let you know!05:31
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Tallia1KubuntuCPU_Wizard: to control the temperature of the laptop you need a CPU-throttle daemon like cpufreqd05:31
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CPU_Wizardthank you Tallia1Kubuntu, i'll download it :-)05:32
nubbyare there known issues with the newest firefox and kubutu?05:32
nubbyin new to kubuntu :) this is my first install and run of it05:32
sdlnxgknot sure how to use the sudo COMMAND05:32
CPU_Wizardthank you for your time, i really appreciate it!05:32
Tallia1KubuntuCPU_Wizard: then you can control the daemon and set the throttle profile you need ( Performance, powersave...) using klaptopdaemon for example05:32
Tallia1KubuntuCPU_Wizard: download??05:32
CPU_Wizardit is included in kubuntu?05:32
Tallia1KubuntuCPU_Wizard: do you know what are repositories right? you don't need to downlaod it manually!!!05:33
CPU_Wizardyes :-)05:33
Tallia1Kubuntuoh, ok :)05:33
CPU_Wizardwhat i need most05:33
Tallia1Kubuntu!cpu05:33
ubotuTallia1Kubuntu: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:33
tobberothCan someone please help me get regular sounds working on KDE? :)05:33
Tallia1Kubuntu!klaptopdaemon05:33
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu05:33
Tallia1Kubuntugrrr05:33
CPU_Wizardis kbabel, i'm a kde translator so i need it05:33
Tallia1Kubuntu!cpufreqd05:33
ubotuTallia1Kubuntu: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:33
uniq!fish05:33
ubotuI guess fish is A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.05:33
uniq!fishing05:33
ubotuhmm... fishing is randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)05:33
uniqheh.. :)05:33
Tallia1Kubuntuuniq: thnx, didn't know about it :)05:34
CPU_Wizardi hope next time i'll be talking to you via kubuntu :-)05:34
CPU_Wizardthank you!05:34
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Tallia1Kubuntuoh, maybe that will take some time :)05:35
Tallia1KubuntuCPU_Wizard: a IRC client for kde is Konversation if you don't konw05:35
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omegaHi05:35
CPU_Wizardi've been using suse for a long time :-)05:35
Tallia1KubuntuCPU_Wizard: or irssi if you are in trouble and you can use only the terminal05:35
CPU_Wizardthank you Tallia1Kubuntu! you are very helpful!05:35
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omegaAdept just crashed and now I can't start it anymore. If I click the entry in the kmenu, it'll ask for a password, but then it doesn't do anything.05:36
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larson9999omega i'm getting the same error.  i had to reboot to get it to work05:36
omegaI'm not getting any error at all.05:37
omegaIt asks for a password and after that nothing happens.05:37
larson9999omega: i meant an error as in things not working the way they should05:37
nubbyholy wow05:37
nubbyall i have to do is use the adept manager and it finds stuff for me?05:37
nubbyand installs it?05:37
larson9999lol05:37
barros_how is the best way to setup iptables in kubuntu?05:38
nubbythis is great05:38
larson9999nubby which distro did you use before that didn't have a package manager?05:38
omegaWait till it crashes, nubby. Then you can' t use it anymore.05:38
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larson9999omega you can probably find a hung process out there to kill, no?05:39
nubby:(05:39
omegaHow do I do that?05:39
nubbywell im very new to linux05:39
nubbyfirst run with kubuntu05:39
omegaI don't see adept in the list of ksysguard05:39
nubbyi was using su commands and konsole b405:39
nubbyand was using suse05:40
uniqomega: try 'sudo fuser -vk /var/lib/dpkg/lock' from konsole05:40
uniqand then run adept from the menu again.05:40
winbondi need help setting up fglrx on 64bit05:40
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nubbyheck yes05:40
nubbywow05:40
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nubbysuch a nub i am05:41
omegaApparently root is using the process.05:41
nubbywhats the best IM client ?05:41
uniqnubby: kopete.05:41
winbondi did the apt-get for the fglrx and aticonfig --initial. i can see the login screen but when i log in i loose signal from the video card05:41
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uniqnubby: not counting IRC as IM, konversation is good for IRC.05:42
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oelschleI think gaim is the best IM client!05:42
nubbyuniq: cool cool....thanks :) was unsure if i should set the default IM client up or if there was a better one :)  thy!05:42
nubbyi used to use gaim05:42
nubbyi wish amsn could do them all :)05:43
winbondi need help setting up fglrx on 64bit05:43
winbondi did the apt-get for the fglrx and aticonfig --initial. i can see the login screen but when i log in i loose signal from the video card05:43
omegauniq: Why doesn't adept inform the user that the process can't start or something similar? And is the console command the only way to get it to work again?05:43
uniqomega: because adept isn't the perfect application yet. :)05:44
uniqomega: did it work when you killed the process using /var/lib/dpkg/lock with fuser, and then re-ran adept?05:44
omegaYes.05:44
omegaThanks for that.05:45
omegaHow do I turn off this auto filter thing? It's making adept very slow to use.05:45
omegaIt's like a friggin' AJAX web application "lolz, we thought you were using enter too often, so here's the autofilter thing"05:45
coreymon77guys05:46
uniqomega: don't think you can configure much UI behaviour yet.05:47
omegaToo bad. :)05:47
coreymon77so dapper final is out05:47
omegaAnyway, thanks for the command. Guess I'll make a shortcut for that or something. Adept seems to be crashing rather often.05:47
coreymon77does lts still mean it is a pre release05:48
coreymon77or is it the final05:48
uniqcoreymon77: Long Term Support.05:48
coreymon77what does that mean05:48
coreymon77should i upgrade05:49
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coreymon77uniq: what does "Long Term Support" mean05:49
uniqcoreymon77: it means it's supported longer than regular releases.05:50
jpatrickcoreymon77: support for 5 years instead of 305:50
jpatrickor something like that05:50
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coreymon77uniq: is it the stable release05:50
nubbywhats the best media player?  VLC media player ?  i love it for windows05:50
LjLit's good enough05:50
coreymon77uniq: or still a flight release05:50
Child4Christ3 years instead of a couple of months, for servers its 7 years05:51
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uniqcoreymon77: yes, all ubuntu releases are considered stable when they are released.05:51
coreymon77okay05:51
coreymon77how should i upgrade05:51
coreymon77using adept?05:51
coreymon77or with apt-get dist-upgrade?05:51
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antoineSalut tout le monde !05:53
jpatrickantoine: saalut05:53
jpatrick!fr05:53
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:53
nubbyi search for VLC media player in the adept manager but i dont find it05:53
jpatrick:)05:53
jpatricknubby: I think it's in multiverse05:53
antoineJ'ai un gros problme, vous savez pas comment installer grub sur une disquette avec linstall de dapper ?05:53
jpatrickuniverse05:53
nubbyim a nub :) please explain what that means :)05:53
jpatrick!sources05:53
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.05:53
DaSkreechnubby: Yup :-)05:54
nubbyoh wow05:54
coreymon77guys05:54
LjLantoine: apt-cache show grub-disk05:54
coreymon77how should i upgrade my dapper from flight 805:54
nubbyjpatrick: TY heaps!05:54
coreymon77using adept or with apt-et dist-upgrade05:54
raj__coreymon77: Update your repositories first with apt-get update, then fire away with apt-get dist-upgrade05:55
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coreymon77raj_: not using adept?05:55
omegaCan anyone explain to me the purpose of "Add/Remove programs"?05:56
rraajjcoreymon77: That's using APT on the command line.05:56
DaSkreechnubby: Best media player is the one that works for you ;-)05:56
insanekaneomega: migratory fear reduction ?05:56
omegaBecause it seems that it doesn't list all available software. Which adept seems to do.05:56
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coreymon77alright05:56
insanekaneomega: it supposed to be for the people who are too scared of using adept05:56
antoinemerci mais peut-on empecher le programme dinstallation dinstaller grub sur le mbr du disque dur ?05:57
DaSkreechcoreymon77: You can use eitehr05:57
omegainsanekane: Maybe so, but that still doesn't explain why it can't find all software. =P05:57
DaSkreechthe command line is safer05:57
omegaWhat if I want to install the Opera browser, or Skype? Not listed there.05:57
insanekaneomega: thats the point ... it doesnt have to05:57
insanekaneomega: it just shows a very limited subset05:57
omegaHm.05:58
coreymon77i do i have to re-update my repositories05:58
DaSkreech!tel antoine about fr05:58
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ubotuDaSkreech: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:58
DaSkreech!tell antoine about fr05:58
coreymon77because i updated them in order to upgrade from breezy to dapper flight 805:58
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coreymon77would i have to update my repositories again, or are they fine now06:00
omegaWhy are .deb packages opened with ark by default? Why doesn't it show me the install dialog instead? (Which is most probably the thing most users want, I assume?) Ark just fails and complains about it not being in my PATH or something.06:01
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insanekaneomega: Ark cannot handle deb packages06:03
nubbywow!06:03
nubbyjust upgraded the repositories!06:03
nubbyfantastic stuff!06:03
nubbyTY!06:03
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omegainsanekane: After installing Dapper Drake 6.06 it's automaticly set up to handle those files.06:05
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insanekaneomega: you should probably right click on them, and use the Kubuntu Package menu that appears06:06
omegaHow do I change it so that double clicking on a .deb will do the same as right-clicking selecing kubuntu packagemanagement and then install?06:06
insanekaneomega: eh ...06:09
insanekaneomega: in the words of the Soup Nazi "No Soup for You!!"06:09
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vasuhi06:13
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Drakesoncan you tempt me to fetch edgy?06:17
Drakesonjust a weak reason might suffice ;)06:17
WoodwardAveDrakeson: I'm trying to fight that temptation as well06:18
Drakesonis it 2.6.16 ?06:18
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WoodwardAveDrakeson: I believe so06:20
svivianWoohoo! Local Linux guru helped me sort out my display! There were a bunch of modes added, probably by aticonfig, which were unnecessary. The display manager picked one larger than my monitor could do, which was why I had the problem.06:20
WoodwardAve2.6.17 hasn't been integrated just yet06:20
WoodwardAvewill be soon i believe06:20
WoodwardAvefrom what i've read06:20
svivianI still don't have GLX functional. I get the DRI error even though the load dri entry is in xorg.conf, oh well.06:21
svivianI still have a problem with printing, so if there are any print experts here, I could use some help06:21
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DrakesonWoodwardAve: thanks06:21
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DrakesonI try not to test it (calm myself down for today!)06:22
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Drakesonthough, there is not telling what this poor machine would be running tomorrow ;)06:23
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svivianAny printer experts on?06:27
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damien_Hey all, what needs to be done to get xorg-driver-fglrx with 3d accel working after running an update which includes a new linux-image?06:28
damien_I tried removing and reinstalling it but that didn't work...06:29
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damien_It worked fine (by checking via fglrxinfo) before running the update, but went back to Mesa after the new linux-image... anyone know?06:31
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jwatwhat is the easiest way to view windows shares/06:31
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damien_jwat, I think going to Remote Places06:32
niksmb:/06:32
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damien_From the menu right next to the Blue K icon06:32
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damien_That works too :)06:32
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jwat"remote places" does not view my windows network06:33
damien_Sorry then you click on Samba Shares06:33
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damien_And that should show you your windows network06:33
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damien_but it is basically the same thing as typing smb:/ in konq06:34
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jwatI was using smb4k with breezy until I updated to dapper and now I get the annoying error message of "the account was disabled"06:34
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jwatsmb:/ in konq <-- Booyah!!!06:36
nik:)06:37
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svivianAny printer experts on?06:39
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omegaThanks insanekane. ;)06:41
mneisenhello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200.06:41
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DaSkreechsvivian: Whats up?06:42
DaSkreechlnxKDE: Dood!!!06:42
lnxKDEsip?06:43
lnxKDEsup?06:43
lnxKDEDaSkreech no luck :(06:43
DaSkreechWhats up?06:43
lnxKDEDaSkreech no luck with the KDE svn install06:43
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svivianDaSkreech: I still can't get Foomatic drivers to install. All the packages are installed according to Adept, but when I go into Admin mode in System Settings, and try to add the driver, it tells me the driver either isn't installed or I dont have rights to it.06:43
DaSkreechWhats the problem?06:43
lnxKDEdbus and qtbus wont be see by kdelibs06:44
DaSkreechsvivian: Well do you have rights to them?06:44
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svivianI'm running in admin mode, I would assume that would allow me to access the driver library06:44
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svivianDaSkreech: It seems to have some connection to locale as well. whenever I run the printer install, it resets my local to "Default"06:45
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svivianDaSkreech: that should be locale to "Default"06:46
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mneisenhello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200.06:47
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svivianDaSkreech: I can print, but only using RAW, which cuts the top 1/4 inch of my documents off06:47
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DaSkreechlnxKDE: Which dbus is it?06:47
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torstefanHi, I am using Kopete as my IM agent. But it dosen't behave as I wish..  I would like to get a "bubble" only when someone pages me.. Is this possible?06:48
DaSkreechsvivian: have you checked the forums?06:48
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torstefanNow , there is a bubble everytime someone gets online, changes status, etc06:48
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lnxKDE0.6206:49
DaSkreechleafwiz: Stop changing your name right before I press tab :)06:49
svivianDaSkreech: I'm looking in as many places as I can06:49
loanwolf? what package do i need for mpeg playback in xine06:49
leafwiz:)06:49
DaSkreechsvivian: Ok Sorry about help here. Lots of folks are at conference I think06:49
lnxKDEDaSkreech : dbus0 0.6206:50
DaSkreechleafwiz: in the main kopete window can you check settings -> Notifications06:50
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lnxKDEDaSkreech : see ya laterz gota go to work06:50
DaSkreechCool06:50
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leafwizDaSkreech: yes, thx06:51
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omegaHow do I change my password?06:51
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Hawkwindomega: passwd06:52
omegapasswd what? I don't see that option anywhere in System Settings.06:52
Hawkwindomega: Type it06:52
LjLpasswd typed in a console06:52
Hawkwindpasswd06:52
uniqomega: kmenu - system settings - user account - change password06:52
HawkwindI don't use KDE so I don't know the graphical way06:52
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loanwolfanyone know what package i need fore mpeg playback in xine06:53
HawkwindWhen you do a apt-get dist-upgrade and a new kernel is installed, does that replace the current one, or install it next to the current one ?06:53
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LjLHawkwind: next to06:53
omegauniq: Do you mean users & settings?06:53
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omegaerr, users & groups06:53
HawkwindIf it installs it next to the current one, how can I see a list of all installed kernels ?06:53
uniqomega: no,i mean user account.06:54
Hawkwindomega: Open up a console and simply type:  passwd06:54
omegaAh ok, I found it. Thanks uniq.06:54
frank_Hawkwind: it depends if the version number changes or not. It the version changes, the installs next to the old. If not it overwrites06:54
DaSkreechHawkwind: teach the easy way first then the good way :-)06:54
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HawkwindNevermind,  ls -l /boot/vmlinuz*  seems to give me the answer I wanted :)06:54
HawkwindDaSkreech: As I stated, I don't use KDE so I don't know the graphical way :P06:55
LjLfrank_: i think the version number *always* changes, because at the very least the ubuntu number is changed06:55
LjLfrank_: i just got 2.6.15-25 installed, and it installed alongside 2.6.15-2306:55
Hawkwindfrank_: The version number always changes AFAIK06:55
HawkwindLjL: Yeah same here.  Thanks guys :)06:55
LjLHawkwind: also, you probably want to remove the old kernel *after* a reboot06:55
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frank_Hawkwind: well security updates overwrite the old one AFAIK06:56
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HawkwindLjL: I always keep 2 kernels installed.  That way if something happens to one, I know I have another one that works I can boot to :)06:56
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LjLthat's reasonable enough06:57
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HawkwindThough I've screwed things up bad enough that neither kernel would boot06:57
HawkwindHeh06:57
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LjLeeeeh :)06:58
McNutellahey, how can I use my volume controls on the keyboard like I can with normal unibtu06:58
HawkwindMcNutella: Look into using lineak is one option06:58
frank_anyone know how to make kaffeine videos play 5% brighter all the time? I have to set it manually everytime I open kaffeine06:59
LjLMcNutella: just assign the right keys to the relevant hotkeys in KMixer06:59
frank_for some reason, the upgrade to dapper caused videos to darken06:59
McNutellaHawkwind, nothing I can turn on in kubuntu ?06:59
LjLMcNutella: if the keys are not recognized at all, then you should change your keyboard model in the control panel06:59
McNutellaLjL, thats more like it, thanks06:59
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McNutellaLjL, will try out07:00
LjLMcNutella: of course, you'll have to keep KMixer running. but i guess you're already doing that.07:00
McNutellai guess it is, somewhere :)07:00
LjLMcNutella: note that, logically enough, the keyboard model is not set under Harware / Keyboard, but under Personal / Regional and Accessibility in System Settings07:01
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LjLMcNutella: the procedure for setting the hotkeys is also a bit involved07:02
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LjLMcNutella: first, start kmix, or if it's already started, click on the tray icon, then click mixer, and on the main window, right click on the master volume slider , and "configure global shortcuts"07:03
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mneisenhello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200.07:04
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loanwolf? anyone know what package i need to play mpeg video's....everything saying i dont have decoder07:04
LjLloanwolf: tried VLC?07:04
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loanwolfLjL, is that a player07:05
LjLloanwolf: yes07:05
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loanwolfno...just installed xine07:05
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coreymon77hey guys07:06
coreymon77do i have to install/update to the new kde? or was kde upgraded along with the dapper update07:07
coreymon77?07:07
uniqloanwolf: you can try to install libxine-extracodecs.07:07
uniqcoreymon77: KDE was updated along with the dapper update.07:08
LjLcoreymon77: dapper comes with kde 3.5.2. however, if you want, there is kde 3.5.3 in a special repository at kubuntu.org07:08
loanwolfuniq, ok..will try that after vlc installs07:08
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coreymon77thanks ljl07:08
uniqloanwolf: you can also give 'codeine' a try. It's my videoplayer of choice.07:08
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loanwolfuniq, i might try it...07:09
LjLuniq: that still uses xine though, afaics07:09
DaSkreechloanwolf: you may need extra-codecs?07:09
uniqljl: sure, but it's the best i've tried so far.07:10
leafwizIs there a media client that can stream SMB streams , and also search in the stream.07:10
leafwizKaffeine can open and play. It has a tendacy to crash, and it cant search..07:10
LjLuniq: i'll give it a try07:10
leafwizOther clients like VNC and MPlayer, downloads the file to disk. Then playes it07:10
coreymon77what is this "Jonathan Ridell's Key" thing07:11
LjLleafwiz: VNC you mean VLC? VLC doesn't download streams, it just streams them07:11
leafwizLjL: Yes..07:11
coreymon77do i need to get this key thing aswell?07:11
uniqljl: does vlc support smb:/ ?07:12
LjLcoreymon77: repositories are signed, so that you can be assured that the packages are genuine07:12
LjLcoreymon77: i'm not sure you *need* the key, though i think with the latest APT you do07:12
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coreymon77alright07:12
LjLcoreymon77: there should be instructions for getting the key on the same kubuntu.org anyway07:12
coreymon77so do this whole wget this07:12
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LjLuniq: oh, no. that's because smb:// is a KDE thing, and VLC is not KDE07:13
uniqljl: exactly.07:13
Child4Christcan someone tell me the link to the wiki for installing java please?07:13
Hawkwind!java07:13
leafwizLjL: So , Kaffeine is the only one with smb:// support?07:13
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs07:13
Child4Christty :)07:14
HawkwindYep :)07:14
LjLi would *mount* samba shares anyday, though, rather than accessing them with KIOslaves07:14
LjLleafwiz: wouldn't know. other KDE players should have it too, i gues07:14
damien_Hey all, what needs to be done to get xorg-driver-fglrx with 3d accel working again after running an update which includes a new linux-image? (When it was working before)07:14
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damien_Tried reinstalling the fglrx driver07:15
coreymon77guys07:15
loanwolfDaSkreech, i have all the extra's loaded07:15
coreymon77when i click on my sources.list file (as root) it says "KDEinit could not launch 'kate' " what does that mean?07:16
leafwizLjL: mm.. What do you use?07:16
LjLleafwiz: VLC07:16
coreymon77but whn i go to the kmenu and try to open kate that way, it works07:16
coreymon77why?07:16
leafwizLjL: Do u watch smb streams through it?07:17
LjLleafwiz: no. i have my samba shares mounted.07:17
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DaSkreechdamien_: You should try asking #ubuntu-xgl07:19
coreymon77guys07:21
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coreymon77does it matter where i put deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main in my sources.list?07:22
frank_anyone know how to make kaffeine videos play 5% brighter all the time? I have to set it manually everytime I open kaffeine07:23
frank_for some reason, the upgrade to dapper caused videos to darken07:23
coreymon77because it when i run apt-get update the site i added is not showing07:23
damien_thanks will try that DaSkreech07:23
DaSkreechcoreymon77: Nope07:24
uniqcoreymon77: no.07:24
frank_coreymon77: it doesn't matter where you put it. as long as it's not commented out (no # in front)07:24
coreymon77why isnt is showing up in the list when i run apt-get update07:24
coreymon77 i looked through the output07:24
coreymon77never does it say07:25
coreymon77deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main07:25
frank_coreymon77: not sure. It should work07:25
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coreymon77is it a problem that it is not showing07:25
coreymon77this is what it does say07:26
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Child4Christhow do i install the latest gnome and xfce desktops like in ubuntu and xubuntu?07:26
LjLsudo aptitude install (x)kubuntu-desktop07:26
Child4Christ(x)?07:27
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DaSkreechcoreymon77: press Full upgrade then preview files to see if you get a new KDE07:27
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LjLsorry - i meant sudo aptitude install (x)ubuntu-desktop07:27
LjLmeaning either ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop07:27
Child4Christoh, ty :)07:28
uniqchild4christ: xubuntu-desktop for xubuntu and ubuntu-desktop for gnome. And kubuntu-desktop for kubuntu07:28
HawkwindLjL: Will that install xubuntu over top of Kubuntu or how does that work ?07:28
coreymon77bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('07:28
v3ctor(k|x|ed)ubuntu07:28
uniqhawkwind: you can have all three installed at once.07:28
v3ctoryou don't actuall put (x)07:28
LjLHawkwind: what you said. when you login, you'll be able to choose which desktop to use from the Options menu07:28
uniqhawkwind: you can choose the session type in KDM/GDM.07:28
LjLHawkwind: also, upon installation, it will ask whether you want to use GDM, KDM or XDM as the default display manager07:29
coreymon77ljl: i type that and it says bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('07:29
HawkwindAhhh ok.  I'm used to just installing xfce in Mandriva like urpmi xfce4 so I guess this is basically the same07:29
Child4Christbtw if anyone asks how to install java on kubuntu beta 2, it doesnt seem to work, they should upgrade to release ver for it ^-^07:29
LjLcoreymon77: as we said --- type *either* "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" (for gnome) *or* "sudo aptitude-install xubuntu-desktop" (for xfce)07:29
coreymon77ljl: i have Kubuntu though07:30
LjLcoreymon77: yes...?07:30
MetaMorfoziShi all07:30
MetaMorfoziSSysinfo for 'macisajt': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: mobileAMDAthlonXP-M2000+ at 1459 MHz (2920 bogomips), , RAM: 183/186MB, 79 proc's, 1.33h up07:30
MetaMorfoziSwhat is bogomips?07:30
McNutellaim looking for an Amiga theme for my KDE desktop, any ideas anyone ?07:30
LjLMcNutella: try kde-look.org07:30
v3ctorbogomips = bogus millions of instructrions per second07:31
Child4Christfluxbox is good07:31
McNutellais it quite simple to install them themes? LjL07:31
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MetaMorfoziSthx!07:31
LjLMcNutella: don't see much though07:31
coreymon77what is xubuntu?07:31
LjLMcNutella: not always07:31
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v3ctorxubuntu = xfce ubuntu07:31
Child4Christubuntu with Xfce for older computers07:31
admiral_proFTWcoreymon77, its ubuntu with a different enviroment07:31
McNutellai got a nice theme in gnome, doubt I can use them07:31
LjLcoreymon77: ubuntu with xfce07:31
admiral_proFTWi dont like xfce07:32
v3ctori like xfce07:32
McNutellai like nutella07:32
LjLMcNutella: just install UAE and use that ;-)07:32
admiral_proFTWbah too much like windows07:32
Child4Christthink i used it once on dreamlinux, was aight but not as good as kde ^-^07:32
LjLadmiral_proFTW: how's it more like windows than gnome is?07:32
coreymon77how do i upgrade my kde desktop to 3.5.3 is Kubuntu07:32
McNutellaljl there is always that, but thats a project for next month.. I already have two amigas, I just like the way they look at "just work" ;)07:32
coreymon77and keep it as Kubuntu07:33
v3ctoradmiral_proFTW: i think you may have it conused with icewm07:33
admiral_proFTWi was under the impression it was laid out to be like windows to help Windows used to switch07:33
admiral_proFTWcoreymon77, sudo apt-get update07:33
McNutellawhats windows?07:33
admiral_proFTWsudo apt-get upgrade07:33
admiral_proFTWmight have to restart KDE07:33
LjLMcNutella: my personal opinion is that using an amiga-like theme on gnome or kde would be being unfair to both amigaos and kde/gnome...07:33
coreymon77admiral: i have been told NEVER to use apt-get upgrade07:34
McNutellaLjL,  I already have the close button on the left side on KDE coz im used to it that way, and the min/max on the otherside, minus anyother button07:34
admiral_proFTWcoreymon77, WHO TOLD YOU THAT?07:34
admiral_proFTWthey're stupid07:34
LjLapt-get dist-upgrade07:34
admiral_proFTWvery very stupid07:34
LjLadmiral_proFTW: anyway, you need to add the 3.5.3 repository first07:34
admiral_proFTWcoreymon77, what version of ubuntu07:34
admiral_proFTWi take back the xfce07:35
admiral_proFTWhad it confused07:35
leafwizIf I might ask... What's wrong with this: mount -t smbfs -o username="moviebox" //10.0.5.124/movies/ /media/movie_movies/   , No kernel support for smb?07:35
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LjLleafwiz: use "-t cifs", not "-t smbfs"07:35
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LjLsmbfs is deprecated07:36
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coreymon77admiral: i just upgraded to the newest dapper lts an hour ago07:37
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coreymon77and doesnt using apt-get upgrade f**k up your system07:37
LjLMcNutella: i have the windows gadgets set up that way too, but that's a different matter (i'm actually using an OS X-like theme for window gadgets, but only because it's nice enough)07:37
admiral_proFTWcoreymon77, NO07:37
admiral_proFTWnot at all07:37
LjLdist-upgrade *is* generally a better idea though07:37
admiral_proFTWunless there is not distro to update to07:38
mneisenhello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200.07:38
McNutellaljl and logical.. no point putting close beside anything else, just click it by mistake (at times)07:38
mneisenWhat to do now?07:38
LjLadmiral_proFTW: uh? dist-upgrade works very well even if there is no specific "new" distro.07:38
admiral_proFTWreallt07:38
LjLadmiral_proFTW: i just used dist-upgrade to simply download the new security updates. always did.07:38
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admiral_proFTWi thought it was just for distrobutions07:38
LjLMcNutella: agreed.07:39
admiral_proFTWLjL, oh well thanks for the word07:39
admiral_proFTWI always do apt-get update; apt-get upgrade07:39
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LjLadmiral_proFTW: dist-upgrade simply tries to be smarter than simple upgrade. on the other hand, simple upgrade doesn't necessarly ruin your system, that's for sure.07:39
LjLeven better is using aptitude ;907:40
admiral_proFTWpoint is, coreymon77 whoever told you not to do and upgrade was stupid07:40
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admiral_proFTWit doesnt mess up your sysytem07:40
profoXPis something wrong with amarok in k/ubuntu, because i cant play wma streams anymore, i could play them before, and i think i have the needed codecs, i use the xine backend07:40
uniqadmiral_proftw: dist-upgrade is a smarter version of upgrade. upgrade will simply upgrade the currently installed packages to the newest version available. dist-upgrade can do more advanced stuff.07:41
mneisenprofoXP: You might need to install windows codecs07:41
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profoXPmneisen, i have added extra repositories and i think that i downloaded the needed codecs, what would i need ?07:41
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admiral_proFTWuniq, well i usually only need to update packages, so i guess that works for my purposes07:42
profoXPmneisen, it sucks that some sites are only optimised for flash8/proprietary media formats :/07:42
mneisenprofoXP: have a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28formats%29%7C%28restricted%29#head-68524fab57e2285050069d6845f95415f8ec8404 .07:42
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profoXPmneisen, thank you, lets see07:44
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mneisenhello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200. What shall I do now? Anyone else has the same problems?07:46
admiral_proFTW!wireless07:46
ubotuwireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers07:46
Redeoccasionally my wifi cuts out and i have to reboot my computer to restart it. is there a way i can restart my networking without a reboot?07:46
admiral_proFTWmneisen, check that out07:46
heleSame with my acx wlan card07:46
Redei had the same problem on fc4, but id manually installed the wifi, so i knew how to restart the networking :\07:47
helerede: Start to old kernel, it works for me07:47
h3sp4wnsudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1 (presuming you are using wpa_supplicant and configuring from /etc/network/interfaces)07:47
mneisenadmiral_proFTW: Thanks for the pointers, but I might not have made myself completely clear: I used to work until this morning when I upgraded to a new kernel.07:48
Redehele: i only have the default kernel installed07:48
mneisenhele: I might try that, but then, I want to use an up-to-date kernel.07:48
koshsudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   should restart all the network interfaces07:48
LjLMcNutella: apt-cache show windowlab07:48
profoXPmneisen, back in the days, when i had an ipw2200 it stopped working too after kernel upgrade, I just had to wait until it got fixed (and use an older kernel in the meantime)07:49
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mneisenprofoXP: Thanks for this insightful tip.07:49
profoXPmneisen, ipw2200 is the most used WLAN so it will probably get fixed soon, if its a problem like that07:49
mneisenprofoXP: Then I will reboot into the old kernel.07:49
mneisencu07:49
profoXPmneisen, wait07:49
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McNutellaljl, unable to show package windowlab ?07:50
profoXPmneisen, does dmesg tell you anything? oh hes gone07:50
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LjL!info windowlab07:52
ubotuwindowlab: (Small and simple Amiga-like window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.33-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 148 kB07:52
LjLMcNutella: i bet you don't have universe enabled07:52
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McNutellaljl I bet I do :P07:53
LjLMcNutella: then i bet your system's broken :-)07:53
McNutellai bet its just me07:53
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McNutellawhich universe we talking about ljl ?07:53
LjLthe Universe repository07:53
LjL!universe07:53
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.07:53
McNutellayeah thats what I thought..07:54
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Child4Christjust wonderin, if i install and run an ircd will i have to puch a hole in my box to allow connections?07:56
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Child4Christwhy im on Kubuntu, DesktopBSD wouldnt allow the connections07:57
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h3sp4wnFor desktopbsd you probably just needed a pf rule to allow the connections07:57
uniqchild4christ: check firewalls and such. you can check that the ircd listens on the correct ports with 'sudo netstat -lpAinet'07:57
Child4Christis it hard changing the iptables manually?07:58
h3sp4wnThere is no iptables rules by default07:58
uniqthere is no firewall by default afaik.07:58
Child4Christso im unprotected right now?07:58
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Child4Christthats sounds nice lol07:59
Child4Christsorry for the bad humor, lack of sleep07:59
uniqyour problem is probably a cable modem or a router.07:59
Child4Christi really should be in bed but my cats taken it08:00
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Child4Christmy isp doesnt stop me running servers cause i had one running on windows08:00
McNutellaidiot LOL08:00
McNutellaroot___ that is08:00
Child4Christis he runnin irc as root?08:01
Child4Christi never really understood why its such a bad thing08:01
uniqmcnutella: that doesn't mean he is an idiot. please respect the fact that this is a support channel. Not a "I'm better than you"-channel. Thanks :)08:02
dergringo:)08:02
uniqchild4christ: root is mainly for maintainance and  system administration. Running anything as root, besides what's needed, is bad security practice.08:03
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Child4Christran windows till i got the internet, linux is hard but fun ^-^08:04
McNutellaslap my wrists08:04
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profoXPI installed k/ubuntu next to archlinux, i forgot to save my old grub, and ubuntu didnt detect arch, can i still access the old menu.lst, because i mounted the partition, but i'm not allowed to go into /boot of that partition, otherwise i have to figure out where exactly archlinux resides (i can figure it out, but it would be easier and more fulfilling if i could fix this issue)08:06
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PizmarWhy won't my icons on my desktop align themselves to the grid? I have the option enabled!!!08:07
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Scorpmoonafter loading kubuntu up (white scrolling text) i get a switch to black console, and then switch back to kubuntu logo, with the progress bar08:09
Scorpmoonthere it stops08:09
Scorpmooni burned the cd twice08:09
Child4Christmight have been a bad download, some data might have been corrupt08:10
Child4Christcould try a different mirror for the download08:10
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Child4Christor did you already do that?08:10
Scorpmoonno, the data looks fine from windows08:10
Child4Christwhat speed did you burn at?08:11
wonbondi installed fglrx as root and i cant login to x as a user but i can start x as root, helpppppl08:11
Scorpmoonlow! 8x08:11
Scorpmooni was told to try that yesterday08:11
Child4Christthat as slow as it will go?08:11
Scorpmoonyes08:11
Scorpmoonso i guess kubuntu is not for me?08:11
Scorpmooni did ctrl alt F108:11
Scorpmoonwhat can I write to start up manually?08:11
Child4Christyour hardware might not be supported, display anyways08:11
Scorpmoonati card..08:12
h3sp4wnHave you tried the alternative cd08:12
Scorpmoonno, i want simple install or none :)08:12
heinkel_111anyone know how to do adjust the size of toolbar icons etc in dapper drake08:12
h3sp4wn(or alternate can't remember which it is)08:12
heinkel_111?08:12
uniqscorpmoon: login with your username and password. try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart'08:12
heinkel_111i like my larger breezy icons better08:12
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Scorpmoonits live cd, i have no username yet :)08:12
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Child4Christusing the alt cd sounds good08:12
Scorpmoonuniq, nop still stops08:13
wonbondi installed fglrx as root and i cant login to x as a user but i can start x as root, helpppppl08:13
profoXPScorpmoon, special hardware? laptop? graphics card?08:13
Scorpmoonamd64 desktop, ati x800xl08:13
Scorpmooni don't see anything special08:13
Child4Christdid you download the 64 ver?08:13
Scorpmoonyep08:13
Child4Christor the x8608:13
profoXP:)08:14
Scorpmoonx6408:14
profoXPhmmm /me doesnt know08:14
Child4Christtry the alternate cd like h3sp4wn suggested08:14
profoXPi only know about problems with laptops (broken bioses etc) but thats mostly at very beginning (while uncompressing kernel)08:14
Scorpmooni aint gonna :) Ubuntu works08:14
Scorpmooni just wanted to compare08:14
profoXPyes, make him download another cd lol08:14
profoXPScorpmoon, well.. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:15
profoXP:P08:15
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profoXPubuntu and kubuntu arent too different08:15
profoXPthey are built on the same stuff08:15
andreas_hello! in my konqueror windows, the "Window" menu is gone and nowhere to be seen. Any ideas how I can get it back?08:15
wonbondi installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl08:15
Scorpmoonmkay.. just gotta try opensuse and pcbsd before I put my bets on Ubuntu, final decision :)08:16
Child4Christpcbsd isnt as good as its pegged08:16
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Child4Christlast time i used it it wasnt exactally any good08:16
profoXPandreas_, are you in the video group ?08:16
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profoXP(dont know for sure if there is a video group in ubuntu)08:17
xwolf-is it possible to run Qemu here in kubuntu to boot my windows installation in /dev/hda1?08:17
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profoXP(there is)08:17
andreas_profoXP: ahum, let me check08:17
andreas_why would it matter?08:17
h3sp4wnqemu is seriously slow (unless you have a massively powerful computer08:17
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profoXPandreas_, are you in the video group? (type: groups username)08:18
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Pizmarhey hey, i got a question!!08:18
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andreas_profoXP: yes, I am08:18
xwolf-h3sp4wn how's a pentium 4 2.8ghz good for it?08:18
profoXPh3sp4wn, kqemu module will optimize it and will even support full virtualisation AFTER the inital installation of the OS08:18
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PizmarSo, when I double click on my mp3s, and beep opens them, it won't play... If I drag the icon into the playlist it will...08:18
profoXPxwolf-, I think it would be hard to boot an existing windows install in qemu08:18
PizmarWhen I view track details, and look at name08:19
xwolf-really? i thought it could.08:19
profoXPxwolf-, I'm not saying its impossible, but I never heard about it (I wnated to do it myself a few weeks ago for school)08:19
PizmarIf I double clicked it, it will say home/user/mp3name08:19
profoXPxwolf-, maybe it can be done, I'm not sure, if you find out how, let me know ;)08:19
xwolf-k08:19
Pizmarbut if i dragged it, it says the full directory name08:19
Pizmarthey are on my windows partition by the way08:19
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wonbondwhich folder is kdm installed in?08:20
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coreymon77guys08:20
profoXPxwolf-, anyway, qemu is pretty slow whatever system you have, but when you use the kqemu kernel module it will go faster, installation of an OS in qemu is always slow because it doesnt support full virtualisation, only when the OS is up and running you can enable full virtualisation (the kqemu module will do that) if you provide an option08:20
wonbondwhich folder is kdm installed in?08:20
coreymon77whenever i go into knooueror08:21
coreymon77konqueror*08:21
coreymon77and try to go to my media folder08:21
profoXPxwolf-, and full virtualisation is faster (can be compared to vmware's speed, not super fast, but its workable)08:21
xwolf-profoXP the whole idea was to copy a few files from my linux partition to the winblows' one :>08:21
coreymon77it gives me an error saying "The KDE mediamanager is not running"08:21
coreymon77what does that mean08:21
h3sp4wnprofoXP: kqemu ? have you built debs for the kernel module ? - How fast is it in comparison to vmware ?08:21
coreymon77what is the kde media manager08:22
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coreymon77and why arent things working08:22
PizmarAnyone care to answer my question?08:22
profoXPh3sp4wn, err.. i use(d) it on my archlinux box really, i dont know about a .deb08:22
xwolf-coreymon77 breezy? dapper?08:22
coreymon77xwolf: dapper lts08:22
xwolf-dont know then.08:22
coreymon77i just updated a coulple hours ago08:22
profoXPh3sp4wn, it is almost as fast as vmware right now, a month ago it was alot slower, but kqemu supports a full virtualisation option now08:22
coreymon77anyone know what the KDE mediamanager is?08:23
h3sp4wnpofoXP: Can kqemu accelerate mips emulation or just x86 ?08:23
profoXP"Enable full virtualization mode for best performances. This mode only works with the following guest OSes: Linux 2.4, Linux 2.6, Windows 2000 and Windows XP. WARNING: for Windows 2000/XP, you cannot use it during installation."08:23
profoXPh3sp4wn, i think only x8608:23
profoXPh3sp4wn, KQEMU is supported on x86 or x86_64 Linux 2.4 or 2.6 hosts. Experimental versions are available for FreeBSD and Windows NT/2000/2003/XP.08:24
profoXPkqemu only works on x86 or x86_64, but i dont know what it can accelerate08:24
PizmarSo when I double click my mp3s, beep media player opens, but won't play the file. when i view the file info, it shows the directory as home/user/desktop/file which is incorrect... If i drag them into the playlist it shows the correct path, and will play.08:24
h3sp4wnprofoXP: Its not a mips host though I want just mips client08:25
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highvoltagehi there. k3b only detects my dvd recorder as a cd-rom drive, it says that my drive can't record cd's or dvd's.08:26
h3sp4wnprofoXP: I will investigate that kernel accelerator08:26
highvoltageany idea on what i can do to fix that?08:26
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profoXPh3sp4wn, i guess it can only accelerate x86 because afaik thats the point of kqemu, it can only accelerate what the host is running (I think)08:26
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profoXPh3sp4wn, heres some info (on official site) http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/kqemu-doc.html08:27
wonbondi installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl08:27
Child4Christbbiab08:27
profoXPWhen KQEMU runs in full virtualization mode, both guest kernel and user code are executed directly on the host CPU.08:27
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PizmarSo when I double click my mp3s, beep media player opens, but won't play the file. when i view the file info, it shows the directory as home/user/desktop/file which is incorrect... If i drag them into the playlist it shows the correct path, and will play.08:30
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profoXPPizmar, probably beep's fault.. but i dont use it08:31
uniqpizmar: please don't repeat your question that often. If someone know they will help you. You don't have to ask again every 5 min. Thanks. :)08:31
h3sp4wnprofoXP: I am building the sid sources now (on dapper)08:31
profoXPh3sp4wn, for kqemu ? grea08:31
profoXPt08:31
PizmarWell, this happens with every media player08:31
PizmarIncluding amarok08:32
Pizmarbut not Kaffeine08:32
h3sp4wnprofoXP: First I need to get a later version of qemu first - I think I will just do the kqemu manually08:32
PizmarSo mp3s work just fine on everyone else's computer?08:33
wonbondi installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl08:33
h3sp4wnhow are you starting X ?08:33
profoXPh3sp4wn, oh ok08:33
profoXPPizmar, oh.. strange..08:34
PizmarMaybe I'll try the forums08:34
profoXPPizmar, i dont seem to have the problem, where are the files then? (if they are not at /home/.../desktop/...)08:34
PizmarWell, in media/hda1/blah blah/Music08:35
Pizmareven if i copy one to desktop and double click it, the same thing happens08:35
terminethi folk08:35
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h3sp4wnprofoXP: It needs qemu 0.81 to be used - I may build kqemu properly but it wouldn't be much use to anyone else because I run 2.6.1608:35
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terminetCan you help me, guys?08:36
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profoXPh3sp4wn, bah, install a .15 kernel and build for that too ;)08:36
uniqterminet: please ask your question and we'll see :)08:36
profoXPh3sp4wn, i cant build now, because my "package/development laptop" is broken08:36
profoXPim using replacement hardware08:36
wonbondi installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl08:37
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terminetuniq: tnx ;) I've a strange problem, games an applications aren't fluid, but if press any key or mouse it's work right (I'm sorry for my english ;/)08:38
PyroMithrandirwonbond, have you tried logging in with any other normal user accounts?08:38
wonbondPyroMithrandir: i only have one user account08:39
DaSkreechScorpmoon: The alternate Cd is pretty simple08:40
PyroMithrandirwonbond, you should make another to see if it is a problem only for the one user08:40
Scorpmoonits just, i want to try it out before install08:41
wonbondPyroMithrandir:ill try , ty08:41
DaSkreechandreas_: Try Ctrl+M08:41
terminetno idea? :(08:42
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gsuvegre08:42
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highvoltagei found my dvd problem. I had the wrong dvd drive plugged in. d'oh!08:42
Blissexhighvoltage: if everything else, check the cable :-)08:42
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gsuveghow can i put crypt with konqerror ?08:42
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profoXPhighvoltage, lol? the wrong hardware in your pc you mean?08:43
DaSkreechwonbond: which kdm08:43
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highvoltageBlissex: that's what i did. I thought I should try a newer IDE cable, and when I wanted to plug it in, i noticed that my older dvd-rom, which is mostly forgotten, was still plugged in there ;)08:43
cgeoguys can anybody help me. for no apparent reason i cannot load x windows manager08:43
Blissexhighvoltage: hehehehe. :-)08:44
cgeoi can only get konsole08:44
highvoltageprofoXP: nope, i had an older drive in my pc that i forgot about. it camoflages with the black casing :)08:44
Blissexcgeo: we are sorry, but all our clairvoyant and telepathic advisors are busy on other lines :-)08:44
wonbondDaSkreech: the latest kde, 64bit kubuntu08:44
profoXPhighvoltage, ;) oh08:44
profoXPhey, erm.. "/dev/hda3 /media/arch ext3 defaults,user_xattr,umask=0222 0 2" gives me: EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "umask=0222" or missing value08:45
profoXP, on ubuntu08:45
profoXPwhy doenst umask work ?08:45
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cgeoBlissex yeah i know but i just can;t show you my xorg.conf here can i ???08:46
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Blissexcgeo: what usually really matters is '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'. Check lines with "(EE)" in them, and the last 20 lines or so for errors.08:46
profoXPcgeo, http://ubuntu.pastebin.org08:46
profoXP.com08:47
profoXPdamn08:47
profoXPcgeo, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com08:47
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profoXPcan anyone please test if playing the stream "mms://wm.streampower.be/4fm" works in Amarok ? it used to work on archlinux, but i cant get it to work on ubuntu08:50
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cgeoYeah, alraedy did that. it says "No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth"08:51
h3sp4wnprofoXP: That is loads better (appart from the massive amount of dependancy problems I now have)08:51
cgeoScreen(s) found, but none has a usable configuration08:51
cgeoi changed to depth from 24 to 8 but still nothing08:52
MitjaI've used "update-rc.d <name> defaults" to set a startup script from /etc/init.d. The script was copied to many rc levels. Does it get executed as many times as the levels at booting or just once?08:52
andreas_DaSkreech: isn't that for showing/hiding the menubar?08:53
andreas_either way, no change08:53
uniqmitja: just once.08:53
profoXPcgeo, change it back to 24 :) thats not the problem, paste your Xorg.0.log with the lines containing (EE) on http://ubuntu.pastebin.com08:53
andreas_:(08:53
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MitjaIt's not working then. What am I missing?08:53
terminetprofoXP: work ;)08:53
profoXPh3sp4wn, what dep problems ?08:54
MitjaIt has #!/bin/sh at the top...08:54
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profoXPterminet, oh. damn. using default amarok or the 1.4 version ? (from alternative repo)08:54
cgeook.just a sec profoXP08:54
profoXPI could try out the official 1.3.x one08:54
uniqmitja: did you make it yourself?08:54
Mitjauniq, yes08:54
h3sp4wnprofoXP: I need to somehow build sparc-utils (in order to build proll)08:55
terminet1.3.908:55
uniqmitja: did you make sure it accepts start and stop arguments?08:55
profoXPh3sp4wn, pff no idea.. in arch building goes kinda automatically with ABS :P08:55
MitjaIs that something I have to put inside it?08:55
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profoXP(one thing where arch is really strong)08:55
uniqmitja: use /etc/init.d/skelton as a template.08:55
DaSkreechandreas_: Sorry what was the problem?08:56
terminetprofoXP: Have you any idea for my problem?08:56
AyabaraI just installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu and set kdm as default. when I booted I got the kubuntu login screen, but after I logged in it went back to ubuntu. any ideas?08:57
uniqayabara: select KDE from the sessions list in KDM.08:57
Mitjauniq, thanks08:58
Ayabarauniq: thanks, should've known that...08:58
profoXPterminet, what problem08:58
terminet I've a strange problem, games an applications aren't fluid, but if press any key or mouse it's work right (I'm sorry for my english ;/)08:58
Mitjauniq, but I don't have any daemon, I just want 2 simple commands to get executed08:59
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andreas_DaSkreech: the "Window" menuitem in the menubar is gone (in Konqueror)08:59
terminetI'm using flgrx with ati x70008:59
DaSkreechOh Yeah08:59
profoXPterminet, i would say its haunted :/08:59
DaSkreechWhat about it?08:59
andreas_I have no idea when it disappered because I haven't had a use for it before08:59
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profoXPterminet, I ran fglrx + x700 on my old laptop, it worked fine09:00
DaSkreechRight so what do you want to do now?09:00
uniqmitja: put them in /etc/rc.local09:00
andreas_DaSkreech: well, I want to get it back :)09:00
DaSkreechFor asethic purposes?09:00
Mitjauniq, that's all? no update-rc.d ?09:00
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terminetuff dude do you use xorg 7.0 ?09:01
andreas_DaSkreech: no, I need the split window and the "Tool views"09:01
McNutellalike ubuntus gconfig, what is KDEs variables configurator ?09:01
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DaSkreechCtrl+Shift+T For horizontal and Ctrl+Shift+L for vertical09:02
DaSkreechCtrl+Shift+R to close the one you are currently focused on09:02
andreas_DaSkreech: I appreciate it, but the problem is the menuitem - I want it, not a compromise :)09:02
DaSkreechandreas_: Ahmm Then I think that #kde would be more helpful right now :)09:03
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zym0ticHi people, since I have kubuntu 6.06 my network browsing isn't working anymore. opening network services says: The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running. and browsing samba shares says: the process for the smb://workgroup died unexpectedly09:03
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svivian_andreas_: Try reopening Konq. I found that if I opened it as a web browser, then tried to do file stuff, I lost the tree pane and the tool tabs. If I opened it explicitly for file work, I could access those.09:05
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andreas_svivian_: sorry, no luck09:05
cgeoguys i am running kubuntu live cd. i also have it installed. can anybvody tell me how to mount / and have access to it through the livecd???09:05
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nataliehi09:06
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h3sp4wnprofoXP: I have got it working just used the binary packages from sid for proll and openhackware (I don't think it would be easy to cross compile for sparc and mac respectively and it fixes the dependancies)09:06
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slow-motionhallo09:07
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jean-francoislog09:09
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fatejudgeris there a changelog for the new kernel patches?09:10
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wonbondi just installed kubuntu 64bit and got the fglrx as root and it wont let me log into kde as a user , only as root from recovery mode , can somone help me09:16
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zodoHey folks...I keep having an issue where some application (I think amaroK) goes wild on my hard drive, doing something, bringing the whole system to a crawl.  When it happens, is there some command I can run to see what applications are doing what with my HD?09:16
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wonbondzodo there is a app that will catch runaway processes09:18
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wonbondzodo: exept i dont remember the name of it09:19
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wonbondi just installed kubuntu 64bit and got the fglrx as root and it wont let me log into kde as a user , only as root from recovery mode , can somone help me09:20
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loanwolf? is there away i can use the mutimedia keys on my keyboard09:25
Blissexloanwolf: yes, but forget about it.09:25
loanwolfBlissex, what is it that hard..or dont work the best09:26
Blissexloanwolf: just to explain what you have to do is complicated.09:26
McNutellaany reason why Ktorrent would usually come up with errors, including "tracker is down"09:27
loanwolfBlissex, ok....i just wanted to use the volume keys with with master channel in kmix09:28
uniqloanwolf: system settings -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout -> enable keyboard layouts, and select a keyboard model close to yours in the list.09:28
Blissexloanwolf: hehehehe, they all want to do that :-). Do you know the ''Flying dutchman'' legend? He too wanted to find a way to use his multimedia keys :-)09:28
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uniqblissex: it's not that hard :)09:29
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loanwolfBlissex, nope dont know them09:29
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loanwolfuniq, thank you09:30
Blissexuniq: depends on how geeky you are :-)09:30
MasterEvilAcejust curious.. how difficult is it to port a Visual C# app to linux?09:30
ScorpmoonI just made Kubuntu work, it was THIS bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/3864909:31
Scorpmoonsilly little bug09:31
leafwiz /msg NickServ IDENTIFY heihei09:31
MasterEvilAce...09:31
MasterEvilAcechange  your pass now leafwiz09:31
BlissexMasterEvilAce: hehehehe. Depends. If it uses a lot of .NET not good, as to pure C#, very easy.09:31
leafwizarg.. :P09:31
MasterEvilAceBlissex: ah, shame :P09:31
Blissexloanwolf: however, the brief summary is: find and XKB layout that includes your keys, and then bind those keys to even using keyboard shortcuts in KMix or using DCOP.09:33
BlissexMasterEvilAce: however, most port pretty easily.09:33
BlissexMasterEvilAce: so it is most likely worth a try. Even pretty complex ones work OK, as long as they don't do too much DB stuff.09:33
MasterEvilAceholy crap my screen is getting blurrier every day09:34
MasterEvilAcewhat's that before STUFF?09:34
MasterEvilAceDO?09:34
BlissexMasterEvilAce: BTW, viceversa is usually very easy: if developed on GNU/Linux, it will ''just work'' (usually) on MS Windows.09:34
BlissexMasterEvilAce: CRT monitor?09:34
zodoI've been monkeying with xmodmap and the xorg conf trying to get my Logitech MX510 mouse working with all of the buttons.  Does anyone know where I can find the order of how xmodmap uses the buttons?  I know what button is what on the mouse...but not where to put them in xmodmap.09:34
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MasterEvilAceBlissex: yeah.. i bought it from my friend two years ago maybe. he said it was always sharp. I don't remember the quality when i brought it home.. i just notice that there's a bunch of wavy electromagnetic interference type stuff on my screen. more noticable on solid colors09:35
Blissexzodo: 'xmodmap' is obsolete...09:35
BlissexMasterEvilAce: ahhhhhhhhhh.09:36
MasterEvilAceBlissex: yeah :-/ i hope i don't need a new monitor09:36
BlissexMasterEvilAce: well, there are two interesting points here.09:36
zodoOh...well that would explain my issues, perhaps.  What has it been replaced by?09:36
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BlissexMasterEvilAce: first: bad color quality often is a degaussing issue. Try degaussing or just switching the monitor off for 5-10 minutes occasionally.09:37
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iNikuhmm, new kernel09:37
iNikuor maybe not so new, I haven't updated in a few days09:37
BlissexMasterEvilAce: second, it is amazing how bad an influence on a CRT can be _any_ electrical/electronic stuff in its vicinity, like a radio, a speaker, a mobile phone.09:37
zodoIts also amazing how big an effect GSM cellphones can have on CRTs.09:38
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iNikutrue, for a long time I was able to tell I was getting a call on my mobile several seconds before it actually started ringing, just by looking at my monitors09:38
BlissexMasterEvilAce: finally, many monitors drift in convergence and focus. Most have electronic (if expensive) or mechanical dials (if cheap) convergence/focus regulations.09:38
MasterEvilAceBlissex: yeah, degaussing doesn't have an effect. not a real color problem.. just VERY blurry. the problem is less and less the lower the resolution i use.. however I know that this resolution (1280x1024) is supported.. but it is the blurriest res09:38
MasterEvilAceBlissex: i heard about the focusing thing.. that requires taking the monitor apart though i believe09:39
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BlissexMasterEvilAce: depends on the monitor, many have controls for that.09:39
BlissexMasterEvilAce: look at the various options on the OSM.09:39
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MasterEvilAceBlissex: yeah there's nothing there for it09:39
svivian_MasterEvilAce: You don't by chance still have the protective film on the screen (stupid q I know)09:39
MasterEvilAcesvivian_: nope09:40
BlissexMasterEvilAce: also, most CRTs are rather blurry at their highest res. Like 17" are really designed for 1024x768, or at most 1152x864.09:40
BlissexMasterEvilAce: even if 17" can do 1280x1024, thats not what they are designed for...09:40
h3sp4wnDiamondtron or trinitron crt's look fine at 1600 by 120009:40
h3sp4wn(17")09:41
MasterEvilAceBlissex: yeah, i don't remember having a problem a year ago.. but it seems to be getting worse... I think the blur is caused by the wavy crap i'm getting. it's a 19" EPI Envision  EN-980e09:41
MitjaI'm interested too: what should we use instead of xmodmap?09:41
BlissexMitja: well, the horrible answer is XKB, which is both very flexible and very incomprehensible.09:42
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BlissexMitja: there are (very) few XKB tutorials etc. on the web, that help somehow.09:42
zodoI was thinking that there must be some sort of easy GUI front end for xmodmap somewhere...maybe for XKB...I just can't find it.09:42
BlissexMitja: the XKB config utility is 'setxkbmap' and the KDE frontend for (some) of it is 'kxkb'09:43
Mitjakxkb won't run, no reason displayed09:45
Mitjaor error thrown09:45
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zodoIs XKB just keyboards, or mice too?09:45
Blissexzodo: XKB is the keyboard side of XINPUT, which is the new way of doing everything...09:46
Blissexzodo: or perhaps I am getting confused. :-) But use those keyboards for a search.09:46
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wonbondi just installed kubuntu 64bit and got the fglrx as root and it wont let me log into kde as a user , only as root from recovery mode , can somone help me09:48
Blissexwonbond: thats probably just an installation mishap, nothing to do with 'fglrx'.09:48
Blissexwonbond: log in as 'root' and then add yourself as new user. Check '/etc/passwd'.09:49
wonbondBlissex: i already made a new user from root , but i couldnt log in with that account either09:49
Blissexwonbond: then check the logs in '/var/log/' as to the reason why.09:50
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omegaHi09:50
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omegaCould someone do me a favor and make me a screenshot of the display settings in KDE? Kguidance I think it was called?09:50
omegaI can't find any online.09:51
wonbondBlissex: which log should i look at?09:51
Blissexwonbond: the most recently updated, check with 'ls -ltr /var/log'09:51
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wonbondwhats the pastebin url?09:54
Blissexwonbond: guess :-)09:55
wonbondpastebin.edu?09:55
Blissexwonbond: hardly .edu :-)09:56
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wonbondBlissex: ok , could you look at it please .  im new , dont really know whats going on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1577309:57
Blissexwonbond: as to im new fine, but sysadm in either MS Windows and GNU/Linux is hard stuff, so be ware...09:58
Blissexwonbond: thats the X log, it has nothing to do with login/GDM/KDM issues... Try 'messages' or 'secure' or whatever else your system produces.09:59
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wonbondBlissex: could this be a problem?10:01
wonbonderror opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy10:01
wonbond(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/event10:01
wonbondNo such file or directory.10:01
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Blissexwonbond: the security policy yes, the event file no (I think).10:02
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slicslakhow do i lookup a hostname with an IP address?10:02
wonbondBlissex: ok , thanks you , i got to run to school10:03
slicslaknm, host10:03
BlissexMasterEvilAce: oops, completely forgot about you, and yes a 19" should do 1280x1024 nicely.10:05
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Ayabarathe media keys on my inspiron 6000 doesn't work in kubuntu, but it works in ubuntu. any help appreciated10:10
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D4m4gehello10:11
D4m4gecan someone pastebin his /boot/grub/menu.lst ?10:11
D4m4gefor me*10:11
D4m4gegrub died :(10:12
uniqubotu tell ayabara about kmediakeys10:12
MasterEvilAceBlissex: you have any experience with focusing a monitor? this one site says you can usually take the back of the monitor off and there's an adjustment you can make10:14
Ayabarauniq: thanks!10:14
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uniqayabara: happy to help, did it work for you? :)10:14
BlissexMasterEvilAce: yes, some experience, but all monitors that I have used have had an _external_ dial for focus or an OSD setting for it.10:15
BlissexMasterEvilAce: however it could also be convergence...10:15
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BlissexMasterEvilAce: anyhow, if you open your monitor, let it rest for around 30-50 minutes after powering it off at least before touching it. It can be _very_ dangerous.10:15
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Ayabarauniq: like a charm I think :-)10:17
cox377Hello all, i just have a question question. I seem to have a problem.. my desktop crashes whenever i seem to deal with images on the desktop10:17
cox377would anyone know a test maybe that i could do?10:17
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BlissexMasterEvilAce: BTW, found your monitor manuals and some context info: http://www.aocdisplay.com/envision/manuals/EN-980e.pdf10:21
MasterEvilAcehey thanks, blissex10:22
BlissexMasterEvilAce: the info is that it was a rather low end/cheapo monitor from AOC back from 2001. This kind of cheap-and-cheerful stuff often does not age well.10:22
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BlissexMasterEvilAce: however try to reduce brightnesss, often cheap monitors have power regulation problems, and lower brightness makes things easier on the electronics.10:23
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BlissexMasterEvilAce:  if you look at page 11 of the manual, the recommendation for ''fuzzy picture'' is to adjust constrast/brightness, and for waviness is to check electrical stuff nearby.10:24
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BlissexMasterEvilAce: also try 1152x864 instead of 1280x1024. Or 1280x1024 at a lower refresh rate, the electronics may be aging and strain to support higher frequencies.10:25
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BlissexMasterEvilAce: on the OSD also try setting anti-moire to off or some low value.10:26
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MikeMcAHi.  I'm a kubuntu noob.  I just tried running init 3 for the first time and it doesn't do anything.  No runlevel switching, but no error message either.  Is init disabled on k/ubuntu or am I missing something here?  Thanks!10:27
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BlissexMasterEvilAce: also, now that most companies are switching entirely to LCDs, it is fairly easy to find really good 19" and even 21" monitors in dumpsters/skips. Really.10:27
MasterEvilAcei think it's definitely the wavyness. i did move my monitor 3 feet in one direction, and if i rotated the monitor left and right, the wavylines actually moved.. but i couldn't move it far enough away to see WHAT was possibly causing interference10:28
BlissexMikeMcA: in Debian derived distros all usual runlevels do the same...10:28
MasterEvilAceafk for maybe 5 minutes though10:28
MikeMcABlissex: thanks I'll read up on debian runlevels then10:28
MrObviousSounds like a magnet is too close to the monitor.10:29
MrObviousI've seen it before.10:29
skipster23how can i open or extract a .rpm file10:29
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MrObviousUse an rpm based distro like Red Hat, Fedora, or Mandriva or something. Ubuntu is based on Debian which uses debs. I'm pretty sure you can't use rpms on a deb distro.10:30
nikskipster23: rpm -i *.rpm on a rpm based system...10:30
skipster23ok great10:31
h3sp4wnYou can use alien if its a commercial program10:31
h3sp4wnbut you are better off just getting the tar.gz if you can10:32
h3sp4wnor preferably a deb10:32
skipster23what about a zip10:32
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skipster23i got it thanks10:33
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MrObviousskipster23: What are you trying to get. Maybe it's on apt-get10:34
BlissexMasterEvilAce: sometimes the PC itself can emit interference that freaks out the CRT, like a specific CPU freq, a chipset or motherboard, a PCI card.10:35
tommy2k4kubuntu crashed :(10:35
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tommy2k4music stopped playing and monitor just showd just of diff colored vertical lines10:35
tommy2k4when i rebooted kde gave an error bout a process ended unexpectedly or something and theres no internet connection cos gaim/opera wont connect10:36
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fatejudgerKatapult runs VERY slowly when amarok is running10:38
fatejudgerI'm guessing it has to do with the fact that it searches through amarok's song database10:39
fatejudgeris there a way to disable that?10:39
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skipster23does anyone know how to install limewire10:41
LjL!limewire10:41
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.10:41
skipster23i did but when i ran the runlime.sh i got errors10:42
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skipster23does frostwire need java10:43
johnfluxHey all10:44
johnfluxhow do I get wmv working in 64bit kubuntu?10:44
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johnfluxI downloaded the codecs, downloaded mplayer-386...10:44
johnfluxnow what? :)10:44
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BlissexMasterEvilAce: BTW, disappointing review of your monitor: http://pcworld.about.com/news/Oct302001id68707.htm You get no convergence or focus controls10:45
Blissexjohnflux: now cry :-).10:45
johnfluxBlissex: i guessed so10:45
Blissexjohnflux: the codecs are 32 bit only.10:46
johnfluxright10:46
Blissexjohnflux: so you must use them with 32 bit programs.10:46
johnfluxright10:46
johnfluxso I have mplayer-386 ;)10:46
Blissexjohnflux: thats not totally trivial to arrange.10:46
skipster23ubotu: when i type java -version it tells me i have java v 1.4.210:46
ubotuskipster23: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:46
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Blissexjohnflux: you need all its dependencies, and configure everything right. Again, not totally trivial to arrange. There mau be a tutorial/HOWTO on the wiki.10:47
cox377Is there anyway to change the icon of a program once you have opened it. For instance firefox is a blue globe once open but i manual changed the icon on the start menu10:47
Blissexcox377: they are different icons...10:47
KuLoverWhy is it that every tim, during boot, during the graphical progress bar, it hangs at "Checking all filesystems", then switches to text boot and goes about everything normaly.10:47
cox377blissex: is there anyway to change them?10:47
fatejudgerKuLover: does it say it's checking your filesystem for errors?10:48
fatejudgerKuLover: or something to that effect10:48
KuLoverNo, just says [ok] 10:48
fatejudgerweird10:48
KuLoverShould I boot in repair mode and see what it says?10:48
Blissexwell, the icon that the program presents to the window manager is specified by the program, not the shortcut that points to the program. So you need to find a way to tell the window manager to use a different icon or tell the program to present another one.10:49
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cox377Hmmm10:49
cox377does anyone know how to do that10:49
cox377sorry a difficult questions10:50
KuLoverRight click the K, clcik edit menu, find firefox in the list, clcik the icon, then browse to the one you'd like.10:50
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cox377that onlyt changes the applications launch icon and not the icon displayed once the application is open doesnt it?10:52
shocktrooper1how can I update my menu.lst to read winxp on hdb1 instead of ubuntu?10:52
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KuLovercox377, YOu mean the icon in the menu?10:53
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scotthi all10:53
cox377when you open an app and it's sitting open it shall saying like firefox with a little blue globe left of the txt.. well i wanna change that ikon10:53
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scottinstalling kubuntu 6.06 using the alternate cd... installation locks with blank screen at about 60% just after the x* packages, ... any ideas to get past this?10:54
Blissexcox377: that is the icon that the window manager uses.10:54
cox377is there anyway to change that?10:54
Blissexcox377: usually the app sends it to the window manager, or else it depends on the window manager.10:54
KuLoverIm not sure about that because I installed Firefox myself. You probably have to do to the install directory and edit the firfox app there.10:55
chavocox377, the firefox icons is in /usr/share/firefox/chrome/icons/default.xpm10:55
chavocox377, for most other apps the icons is chabged by the icon theme10:55
cox377cheers chavo10:56
cox377can i just download a differnet firefox.xpm from google and replace that one?10:57
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brandon_did yesterday's updates fix the screensaver issues?10:58
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fatejudgerbrandon_: did you have problems with the screensaver not coming on?11:02
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|lostbyte|How important is the speed option in pppd script ?11:02
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Tommy2k4how can i make it auto login without having to enter password on boot11:02
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brandon_fatejudger: from what i've read, everybody did11:03
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scottloss of video during install, just after it installs x, any ideas, i haven't been able to find anything useful in the forums11:07
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jwatwhat media player does everyone use to play wmv files and embedded videos.  Ex: metacafe.com11:09
jwat???11:09
omegakaffeine has a plugin for that doesn't it?11:10
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jwatwhat plugin might that be?11:12
omegaone for mozilla I think.11:12
CaBlGuYwhats the base package I need to install for gstreamer?11:13
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omegajwat; http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=86937&package_id=11813311:13
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|lostbyte|libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 and libgstreamer0.10-0 i guess..11:15
|lostbyte|and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly11:15
CaBlGuYthat's for the base app.. right?11:15
jwatis the package listed in Adept not the most current version?11:15
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|lostbyte|CaBlGuY, I installed that mainly for amarok for mp3 support.11:16
geneo91wow gates quit11:16
CaBlGuYOh, well, im wanting gstreamer itself..11:16
CaBlGuY!gstreamer11:16
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY11:16
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apokryphosgeneo91: interesting, yeah11:16
|lostbyte|lolz..11:17
|lostbyte|Any one on DSL ?11:17
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scott6.06 alternate install locks up and loss of video just after installing the x packages, any ideas to get past this?11:17
geneo91apokryphos:  any idea why this thing has changed my nick11:17
CaBlGuYwell crap...  :/11:17
apokryphosgeneo91: not sure what you mean .You can change nick, though, by: /nick someothernick11:18
CaBlGuYscott:  what do you mean by "alternate"...  u mean the base install?11:18
geneo91well even on other dapper install and not just #ubuntu channels11:18
scottusing the alternate cd11:18
CaBlGuYscott:  ok, so your installin the base systrem then.  Ummmm  and it locks up after the xpackage install..11:19
johnfluxwhich is newer, breezy or warty?11:19
CaBlGuYjohnflux:  dapper11:19
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CaBlGuY;)11:19
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apokryphosjohnflux: warty was the first ever release of Ubuntu.11:19
LjLjohnflux: dapper > breezy > hoary > warty11:19
johnfluxCaBlGuY: that wasn't on the option list :P11:19
scottyes, i believe it occurs just as it tries to initiate the last part of the install when it goes to the graphical interface11:19
johnfluxthanks11:19
CaBlGuYjohnflux:  I know, ...  :p11:20
geneo91warty was first11:20
scotti wonder who thinks of all the names?11:20
scott:)11:20
scottthey had to be smokin11:20
LjLthe crazy cook11:20
geneo91some animal11:20
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geneo91some kinda hog11:21
CaBlGuYscott:  havfe u tried burning the iso again?11:21
apokryphosscott: all on Shuttleworth's whim11:21
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CaBlGuY*have11:21
scottCaBlGuY: yes, i sure have, twice actually, the cd checks out ok11:21
CaBlGuYscott:  well then.  could be some bad video then..  what card ya got?11:21
orgulloKmooreHello. Does anyone have some advice on how I could get my macromedia flash player for Firefox to produce sound? It does video, but no audio. Other programs produce sound, though.11:21
scotthmm good question... whatever is standard in the dell dimension 240011:22
CaBlGuYorgulloKmoore:  well, it's probably playin unsupported versions..  that's why video only and no sound...11:22
CaBlGuYscott:  EEEwWWwwwwWWw    a dell.....11:22
CaBlGuY:p11:22
orgulloKmooreCaBlGuY, and how might I fix that. I'm trying to watch videos on youtube.com11:23
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scottdon't laugh at me :P it's the only one i have11:23
scotthopefully a new one next month though11:23
CaBlGuYscott:  I would start with your video card and go form there. It's probably some POS on board video anyway with aint worth a dmn so..  that's where you'll hit the probalem..11:23
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CaBlGuYorgulloKmoore:  well, you'll have to wait til flash Version 8 is supported in Linux.. ;)11:24
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geneo91might be intel 815 or higher11:24
scottok CaBlGuY, thanks, i really don't know where to start, maybe i'll try the vesa driver, that's the only mention i could find in forum11:24
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CaBlGuYand I wasn't laghin @ ya scott   ;)11:24
scotti'll start there11:24
scotti know i was only teasing11:24
CaBlGuYI know..11:24
orgulloKmooreCaBlGuY, ugh, so for now no youtube? :'(11:25
geneo91orgulloKmoore:  maybe mplayer plugin would work11:25
cox377how come the splash screen options are not available?11:26
orgulloKmooredoes no one else in this chat hear audio from youtube?11:27
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chavoorgulloKmoore, yes I get audio on youtube11:28
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orgulloKmoorechavo, and how do you do that? :P11:28
scotti have to say that this release has been the most frustrating, 5.10 on same machine was a flawless install11:28
orgulloKmooremine's not working11:28
chavoclick on the links?11:28
orgulloKmooreI just see video, no audio11:29
chavowhat I've noticed about flash audio is that it won't work with any other sound playing11:29
geneo91orgulloKmoore:  i do using mplayer plugin11:29
orgulloKmoorechavo, even if I have no other sounds playing it doesn't work11:29
AshexCriminy11:29
orgulloKmooregeneo91, ok, I'll try that11:29
AshexMy audigy card isn't showing up in my sound devices >:(11:30
AshexI did an lspci and I can see it11:30
AshexThe problem is that I have an onboard sound card that alsa keeps switching to11:30
geneo91modprobe it then11:30
AshexI'm not entirely sure how to11:30
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neoncodeHow well does kubuntu fair with an nVidia SLi setup?11:30
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Flosofthey11:31
MrObviousNVidia non-SLI works fine.11:31
MrObviousNot sure about SLi11:31
FlosoftI am looking for a programm to check my Harddrives (ext3 and LVM)11:31
Flosoftan intensive Hard Disk check11:31
Flosoftwhat could I use?11:31
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Ashex!tell me about modprobe11:31
Ashex:(11:32
geneo91!modprobe11:32
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, geneo9111:32
slow-motionwhen i have the k7 kernel installed, can i remove the i386 kernel or shall i keep it because of compatibility issues?11:32
RawSewageBill Gates is 'retiring'.  Probably because of Kubuntu.11:33
geneo91remove it11:33
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MrObviousYou can but having multiple kernels never hurts. I'm not sure about architecture things tho.11:34
geneo91he dont want to be there when the ship sinks11:34
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MrObviousI run a 386 kernel on a 2400+ AXP11:34
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geneo91MrObvious:  thats like running win3.1 on quad processor xeons box11:35
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n3stormbyes11:36
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MrObviousOh.11:37
MrObviousSo do I need to change kernels on the AXP?11:37
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Samuli^MrObvious, It's NOT anything like running 3.1 on quads.11:37
geneo91i'm not an amd guy11:37
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cox377I've updated my source list/repositories etc but i cant find an application to rar/unrar applications.. anyone got any suggestions?11:38
CaBlGuYso...   I'm guessing that Ubuntu isn't supporting gstreamer then..11:38
Samuli^CaBlGuY, where do you get that?11:38
Samuli^ubuntu ships with gstreamer.11:38
CaBlGuYI can't find it anywhere...11:38
MrObviousThere's a CLI command called unrar11:38
MrObviousIMO Gstreamer sucks anyway.11:38
DaSkreechgeneo91: Gates Quit trying to be cool?11:38
CaBlGuYit's not installed on my install..  :/11:38
cox377is there a suggest RAR applications?11:39
CaBlGuYok MrObvious, what else is there that "streams" audio like gstreamer??11:39
geneo91unrar nonfree11:39
MrObviousIce?11:39
MrObviousIcecast?11:39
CaBlGuYNot heard of ice.. does it do the same thing?11:39
CaBlGuYcaptures the streams offline..11:40
r0xzcox377: tar.bz2 does the job here...11:40
scotti've never tried expert mode... does it give options for what video drivers to use?  if this try fails, i'll try expert mode11:41
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CaBlGuYhehe11:42
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CaBlGuYnot used expert mode in a while..  just more options basiacll.11:42
CaBlGuYwell MrObvious  I'm waiting...11:42
CaBlGuY!Ice11:42
ubotuCaBlGuY: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:42
CaBlGuY!Icecast11:42
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY11:42
CaBlGuYhehe11:43
scotthopefully this'll work, i'm about to find out... same machine i had 5.10 on, and it was a flawless automatic install11:43
cox377r0xz: cheers for that, how do i go about installing it?11:43
slow-motionuhoh have to fix a little kernel problem. hope i dont forget to install a kernel before rebooting or something11:44
CaBlGuYscott:  good luck bro..  ;)11:44
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scottthanks11:44
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geneo91.11:45
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linuxnoobverdrckt :/11:46
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humboldtwhat do I have to have installed to be able to burn mp3s to audio CDs?11:47
AshexGrr11:47
AshexI'm stumped11:47
AshexI had my audigy card working just a few days ago, but now it isn't being loaded11:47
Ashexand I haven't a clue how to modprobe it either :S11:48
geneo91humboldt:  just use k3b and ask it to make audio cd11:48
bojanhow can i get that desktop switching applet thing onto my taskbar? I cant seem to find it anywhere.11:49
bojanlike with numbers Desktop 1 and Desktop 2, so on11:49
slow-motionn811:49
geneo91maybe you need launcher applet11:50
bojanfound it11:50
humboldtgeneo91: libk3b2-mp3 needs to be installed!11:50
bojanit just didnt have an idcon in the applets list, and its called Desktop pager, which wasnt what i was looking for initially11:50
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geneo91humboldt:  install it11:51
marciogente como instalo atualizaao flashplayer ?11:51
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Ashexsoo, anyone have any advice as to steps I can take?11:51
geneo91Ashex:  look on wiki ??11:52
AshexEh, I'm looking through it right now11:53
geneo91idunno what card it is so i cant tell you command to use11:53
AshexIt's a Creative Audigy 2 soundcard11:54
geneo91what does lspci call it11:55
AshexI've looked through the modules and tried to load the one I believe it is (snd-emu10k1)11:55
AshexCreative Labs SB Audigy11:55
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geneo91technical name11:56
Ashexyou want the whole line?11:57
Ashex:p11:57
geneo91yes11:57
Ashex0000:00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)11:58
Ashexeh, it didn't show up when I did a cat /proc/asound/cards11:58
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geneo91how about alsamixer11:59
cox377if i have downloaded a .deb file can i say browse using an application so i dont have to install it manually?11:59
Ashexalsamixer shows my onboard card12:00
geneo91turn it off in bios then12:00
Ashex0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)12:00
Ashexthe onboard sound?12:00
geneo91yes12:00
Ashexheh, I never thought about doing that12:00
geneo91you dont need two12:00
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Ashexhookay12:02
AshexI'll give it a shot12:02
Ashexas soon as my laptop connects...12:02
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geneo91try that and it should load your other card then12:02
Ashexwhile I remember, what's command to re-configure the keyboard?12:03
r0xzcox377: tarball (tar) is installed by default, there are some gui's that can use it like ark12:03
Ashexbah, reboot now12:03
cox377i tried ark but it didnt work12:03

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