[12:03] <bulltitan> i'm at firefox place but it doesn't says anything
[12:05] <ubuntu> How do i upgrade from Breezy to Dapper the easiest way?
[12:05] <Hawkwind> !upgrade
[12:05] <svivian> ok, tried it using kdesu. Same behavior. The only difference is I didn't see the locale errors, probably because it was already set to default instead of United States
[12:06] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[12:06] <cox377> Does anyone have any recommendations on the best way to export an address book from outlook express to thunderbird, i tried via .txt but all it had was the email address and no names etc after i had selected all info to be exported when within OE
[12:06] <ubuntu> !upgrade
[12:06] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: The bot just told you the info :P
[12:07] <cox377> damn.. just realised that was a bot. Clever stuff
[12:07] <jerry> hi
[12:07] <jerry> I was just thinking
[12:07] <Hawkwind> Great!
[12:08] <jerry> I had a gadget that connected to the wol and when you pushed the check box button the computer would power on
[12:09] <jerry> so I was thinking why would wake on onboard lan not do the same?
[12:09] <jerry> actually nevermind it wasn't connected to the wol
[12:09] <jerry> brb
[12:10] <lime4x4> is anyone else having trouble updating there sources.list?
[12:11] <heinkel_111> lime4x4: you could do it "manually" inetead of using adept
[12:11] <heinkel_111> lime4x4: I am assuming tou are going to upgrade to Dapper Drake?
[12:12] <lime4x4> yeah i've tried that but i'm getting erors for the last week i've even tried different ones
[12:12] <heinkel_111> hmm
[12:12] <lime4x4> fresh install of dapper drake about 2 weeks ago
[12:12] <heinkel_111> ok not same problem that i solved for myself yesterday then
[12:13] <lime4x4> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned error code 2
[12:13] <lime4x4> i get like 4 errors like that one
[12:13] <heinkel_111> what is error code 2 then?
[12:14] <heinkel_111> seems like an uncompressing error of some kind?
[12:14] <lime4x4> i'll run apt-get update and c if it says anything elese
[12:14] <heinkel_111> yep
[12:15] <heinkel_111> could you paste your sources.list into  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:15] <heinkel_111> ?
[12:15] <lime4x4> k give me a sec
[12:16] <lime4x4> done
[12:16] <lime4x4> i've tried us fr and au
[12:16] <sdlnxgk> anyone have problem with codecs in kaffeine??
[12:17] <lime4x4> 93% [17 Packages bzip2 0]  [Waiting for headers]  [Waiting for headers] 
[12:17] <lime4x4> bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.
[12:17] <lime4x4>         Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
[12:20] <lime4x4> this has been going on for over a week now
[12:20] <heinkel_111> lime4x4: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/709587
[12:20] <heinkel_111> that is my sources.list
[12:20] <heinkel_111> worked perfectly as of yesterday
[12:20] <zois> hello room
[12:21] <zois> alles gut?
[12:21] <svivian> nein
[12:21] <zois> y not?
[12:21] <zois> smth happened svivian?
[12:21] <lime4x4> ok i'll try it got nothing to lose at this point...lol
[12:21] <svivian> Printing problems, monitor problems
[12:22] <zois> ja. ich auch bzw. den Druecker
[12:22] <svivian> zois: you also having printing problems?
[12:23] <zois> my printer is not seen
[12:23] <zois> ok i wont speak anymore german
[12:23] <zois> lol
[12:24] <zois> but i havent searched about it cause fortunately i dont need it right now. plus i am a new linux user
[12:24] <zois> :-)
[12:24] <zois> kaneis Ellhnas edw mesa?
[12:27] <heinkel_111> lime4x4: any rsults yet?
[12:27] <zois> anyway
[12:27] <zois> i am going out
[12:28] <zois> c ya room
[12:28] <zois> bye svivian
[12:28] <lime4x4> heinkell_111  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/709597
[12:28] <bubblenut> Hi, if I try to remove kopete in syntapic it tells me it's going to also remove "kubuntu-desktop", how can I remove kopete without removing the kubuntu desktop?
[12:30] <LeeJunFan> bubblenut: it's fine to remove kubuntu-desktop, removing kubuntu-desktop doesn't mean your going to lose KDE and everything.
[12:31] <bubblenut> Oh, cool, thanks LeeJunFan
[12:33] <morla> hi. Framebuffer apps (links2 for example) only work for root, is this supposed to be like this?
[12:34] <bobesponja> hey guys
[12:35] <bobesponja> the FAQ says to install libxine-extracodecs but there is no such thing in universe or main
[12:35] <h3sp4wn> its in multiverse
[12:35] <bobesponja> ok, I thought this one was for backport only
[12:36] <h3sp4wn> No multiverse is all the stuff with questionable legality (i.e mp3 codecs)
[12:38] <bobesponja> h3sp4wn: does it have proprietary stuff too?
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> Some stuff yes
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> flash , java
[12:38] <bobesponja> like dvd stuff and mplayer?
[12:38] <bobesponja> ok
[12:38] <heinkel_111> lime4x4: this beats me, but somehting seems wrong with the compression utilities gzip/bzip etc?
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> i think so
[12:39] <heinkel_111> lime4x4: it appears it it on your side, as it works here, but I cannot figure it out
[12:39] <Tommy2k4> can anyone help me with smb4k / samba
[12:40] <lime4x4> is it possible to remove them and then reinstall them?
[12:40] <heinkel_111> i guess so, but i don't know how :P
[12:41] <heinkel_111> anyway, gtg - time for ZzZzleeep
[12:41] <heinkel_111> good night, and good luck!
[12:41] <lime4x4> k thanks for the help
[12:44] <RandomDude15> I need help
[12:44] <RandomDude15> with nvida drivers
[12:44] <romeo5k> oh oh
[12:45] <romeo5k> ask  kkathman  abou NVDIA drivers
[12:45] <EvilIdler> !nvidia
[12:45] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:45] <RandomDude15> I instaleld nvidia-glx
[12:45] <RandomDude15> and changed it from nv to nvidia
[12:45] <shocktrooper1> winbond, actually I have windows set to fat32
[12:45] <RandomDude15> in the xorg.conf file
[12:45] <RandomDude15> and it just  sits there with the kubuntu boot screen logo ><
[12:45] <RandomDude15> forever
[12:46] <romeo5k> hmmm....
[12:46] <romeo5k> sits there at what part of the scrreeen?? mounting iomage??
[12:46] <romeo5k> image**
[12:46] <romeo5k> ?
[12:46] <RandomDude15> sits htere and does nothing
[12:47] <romeo5k> whew... im not the nvidia expert.. like i said.. kkathman is
[12:47] <romeo5k> brb ppl
[12:49] <gez> hello. I am having a problem saving settings in kcontrol, I add a dns server, and keyboard layout, but when I logout my settings dissapper!
[12:49] <gez> I have saved the session, and apps are being saved, just these setting :(
[12:50] <gez> kubuntu dapper 6.06 btw
[12:50] <gez> fresh!
[12:51] <Electron> hi, adema
[12:53] <rguy> from what distro did you all convert to kubuntu from?
[12:54] <Hawkwind> rguy: I'm currently converting from Mandriva
[12:54] <gez> hi rguy- I have done a fresh install
[12:54] <gez> oh, not me? :(
[12:54] <gez> any guru's in the house?
[12:56] <Hawkwind> gez: Just ask your question
[12:56] <gez>  I am having a problem saving settings in kcontrol, I add a dns server, and keyboard layout, but when I logout my settings dissapper!
[12:57] <gez> even if I edit the /etc/resolv.conf file manually, it seems to revert to the previous version
[12:58] <gez> and all the fly honeys say ee-oh!
[01:14] <r0xz> konqueror crashes on sourceforge here
[01:14] <r0xz> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/keepassx/KeePassX-0.2.1.deb?use_mirror=heanet and hit the download link on top-> crash
[01:14] <r0xz> just checking if i am the only one...
[01:14] <Tommy2k4> is there any way i can view all mounts
[01:15] <r0xz> Tommy2k4: yes, by mount
[01:15] <Tommy2k4> thanks
[01:15] <chavo> r0xz, no crash here
[01:16] <Tommy2k4> i accidentally mounted something twice and want to umount it but it wont cos its mounted more than once
[01:16] <Tommy2k4> any ideas?
[01:16] <r0xz> chavo: sorry, hit a location to save
[01:16] <r0xz> too
[01:16] <larson9999> i'm getting there.  a couple more things and this system will be all up and running.
[01:16] <chavo> r0xz, I did and it saved fine
[01:16] <r0xz> ok, then it's just me :)
[01:17] <chavo> r0xz, I have kde 3.5.3 though
[01:17] <r0xz> yeah me too
[01:17] <chavo> ok
[01:18] <r0xz> but an upgraded version, and firefox even has problems(crashing) with gmail lately, so it's time to wipe and reinstall i guess
[01:21] <MasterEvilAce> does .net framework stuff work on WINE?
[01:23] <visik7> MasterEvilAce: there is mono and dotgnu
[01:23] <visik7> there are :)
[01:25] <edneymatias> bye! see ya!
[01:42] <ubuntu> cool
[01:42] <ubuntu> goodbye :)
[01:42] <Tommy2k4> where do i set preferred applications?
[01:42] <RawSewage> "Democrats promise more oversight if they win House"    ...  more?
[01:43] <coldasfireheart0> hey there peeps
[01:43] <coldasfireheart0> anybody here can help me out with some flash settings?
[01:43] <RawSewage> The Democrats fulfilled their promise.  At least they even mentioned it.
[01:43] <RawSewage> OH
[01:43] <RawSewage> Wrong channel
[01:43] <coldasfireheart0> or is it just politics talk here
[01:43] <RawSewage> I hate when I do that
[01:47] <D4m4ge> bonne nuit
[01:48] <nickpresta> I was kind of curious about being a package manager
[01:48] <nickpresta> I have read the suggested documents and such
[01:49] <nickpresta> but I was wondering how much time and effort being a package maintainer takes?
[01:51] <Chitose> how to install kubuntu in reiserfs partition?
[01:56] <Tommy2k4> opera's tray icon doesnt have a transparent background, is that because im using static instead of shared?
[01:58] <visik7> Tommy2k4: no depends on how is coded
[01:59] <visik7> old gaim had the same problem
[02:06] <yonkeltron> what packages need to be installed on a kubuntu desktop system to install a working LAMP stack?
[02:08] <bimberi> !lamp
[02:14] <InteliWasp> anyone awake?
[02:22] <seanieb64> hi
[02:24] <kenny> how do you change the work group in samba
[02:26] <MrBrizzio> anyone know what this means? W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[02:26] <Cornellius> brb
[02:28] <deameyes> kubuntu isn't a live cd, is it?
[02:29] <MrBrizzio> deameyes, it comes on one
[02:29] <deameyes> but when u install it it's put on the harddrive, right?
[02:29] <MrBrizzio> yah
[02:31] <MrBrizzio> anyone know what this means? W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[02:31] <ubuntu> hello
[02:33] <ubuntu> looking for some help in getting sound to work in dapper
[02:36] <ubuntu> is there anyone here that can help with sound problems
[02:37] <MrBrizzio> just ask ubuntu
[02:38] <Cornellius> Why am I unable to play midis and why can have I no midi mappers that I can choose ?
[02:38] <ubuntu> ok... i'm running on the liveCD... in hoary my sound card worked, but in dapper it doesn't
[02:38] <MrBrizzio> what about Breezy?
[02:39] <ubuntu> haven't tried breezy... think i should?
[02:39] <MrBrizzio> it would help you to discover where the issue is
[02:40] <MrBrizzio> it could be the Dapper kernel, I've had some trouble with it
[02:40] <ubuntu> ok... if i have problems in breezy too... i'll be back... thanks MrBrizzio
[02:40] <MrBrizzio> np :)
[02:41] <ubuntu> bye
[02:42] <MrBrizzio> does anyone know why I would be crashing with SIGABRT 6 on KSplash?
[02:44] <james_xxx> my computer has two PCI slots. the BusID for the onboard video card is "PCI:1:0:0".... would anyone have an idea what a logical guess might be for the BusID's for the other two PCI slots?? (i am trying to install a new video card)
[02:46] <LeeJunFan> james_xxx: lspci
[02:47] <james_xxx> LeeJunFan: ty
[02:47] <Tommy2k4> i added the extra repositories and it wont find mplayer :(
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: did you update sources?
[02:48] <Healot> Tommy2k4: give us your sources.list >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:48] <Tommy2k4> yes
[02:48] <Healot> I'll tell you where the wrong went :)
[02:50] <Tommy2k4> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15734
[02:50] <Tommy2k4> they used to say gb not US but it was giving an error so i changed it to US and no errors when updating now but still wont apt-get install mplayer
[02:51] <Healot> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[02:51] <Healot> there...
[02:51] <Healot> add "universe multiverse" to that LINE specifically
[02:51] <Healot> with out the quotes and mind the spaces
[02:51] <Healot> update, there you go
[02:52] <Healot> technically you add those at this line instead
[02:52] <Healot> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse >> which doesn't have the lastest dapper repos
[02:52] <Healot> it's a backport@
[02:52] <Tommy2k4> yey it works
[02:52] <Tommy2k4> thx
[02:52] <Healot> you used adept right?
[02:53] <Tommy2k4> apt-get
[02:53] <Healot> did you upgrade from breezy?
[02:54] <Tommy2k4> nope first time linux user yesterday
[02:54] <Healot> ok
[02:58] <imk> can you set up software raid from regular kubuntu cd? or only alternate cd?
[03:00] <StR> today there have been a lot of updates for xgl and now I can use it in kde very nice  :D
[03:00] <StR> I'm so happy now :D
[03:00] <Tommy2k4> now to try and get the mplayer plugin working in opera =/
[03:00] <Healot> imk: the alternateCD/server CD
[03:01] <Healot> desktop only handles basic partitioning
[03:01] <imk> thats what i figured
[03:01] <LeafWiz> I have a MX510 mouse. I want mousebutton 4 and 5 too work.. But I can't see any options for enable..
[03:01] <imk> you dont get any choices/configuration during the alternate setup?
[03:02] <imk> basically it had me select my raid partitions and then it just goes and installs everything, with no choices
[03:02] <imk> then it sets grub up wrong and i cant boot :D
[03:02] <LeeJunFan> StR: kde decorations work or still have to use gnome?
[03:03] <StR> decorations you mean instead of kwin?
[03:03] <yonkeltron> is there a reason i can't get ruby gems to work?
[03:03] <LeeJunFan> StR: yeah.
[03:04] <StR> LeeJunFan: well.. I have not tried using kwin..
[03:04] <StR> but I dont' care...  :D
[03:04] <LeeJunFan> StR: you still have to use gnome-window-decorator instead of kde-window-decorator. :(
[03:04] <StR> let me try.....
[03:05] <StR> LeeJunFan: how should I try?  I  get
[03:06] <StR> str@eva:~$ kde-window-decorator --replace
[03:06] <StR> kde-window-decorator: Another window decorator is already running
[03:06] <StR> let me try... BRB
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> StR: depends on how you have yours setup. Mine is set in .Xsession, but wherever you have gnome-window-decorator loading you'd have to replace with kde-window-decorator and log out/in.
[03:07] <Tommy2k4> is there no precompiled mplayer plug-in anywhere :(
[03:07] <LeeJunFan> !tell Tommy2k4 about restricted
[03:09] <Tommy2k4> where does mplayer come into that =/
[03:10] <LeeJunFan> LeafWiz: you'd have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, I've got an MX518, but I haven't bothered with it. heh
[03:11] <LeeJunFan> LeafWiz: perhaps this will point you in the right direction, it's an alternative to editing xorg.conf https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/47579
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: the mplayer codecs, you have to download them from the mplayer site.
[03:12] <Tommy2k4> not the codecs, the plugin for browsers
[03:13] <Cornellius> Why am I unable to play midis and why can have I no midi mappers that I can choose ?
[03:14] <Simplyflower> hello... i'm back with same problem with sound card... won't work in breezy or dapper, but works in hoary
[03:14] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: ah, I dunno. Although konqueror will use kaffeine which uses xine which uses mplayer codecs, heh, so it's kind of an mplayer plugin for konqueror.
[03:14] <Hhhhh> question: how's media support in draper AMD64
[03:14] <Tommy2k4> so if i get the codecs it should work in kaffeine
[03:14] <Hhhhh> ?
[03:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hhhhh: Well...MP3s work, I haven't actually tried much else. :P
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: yeah, almost everything plays for me with kaffeine.
[03:15] <Tommy2k4> can i get kaffeine plugin working in opera?
[03:16] <LeeJunFan> Hhhhh: a lot of video stuff won't work w/o installing a chrooted i386 version of mplayer and such, as there are no static codecs for amd64.
[03:16] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: Never used opera.
[03:16] <Hhhhh> :p
[03:16] <Hhhhh> I think I'll just go with 32-bit then
[03:16] <LeeJunFan> Hhhhh: yeah. That's one of the reasons I stick with 32bit for now too.
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> Hhhhh: flash is another thing that wont work with amd64.
[03:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> LeeJunFan: Strangly, flash installs perfectly with the new Flock beta.
[03:17] <Hhhhh> ok, 32-bit it is then
[03:17] <Healot> it works, in a different way
[03:17] <Simplyflower> is there anybody here that can help me get my sound card working?
[03:18] <LeeJunFan> Healot: yeah, if by working in a different way you mean not working :p
[03:18] <Healot> it works
[03:18] <Healot> and I hate whiners
[03:18] <LeeJunFan> Healot: how did you get it to work? chroot?
[03:19] <Healot> and I really mean it works
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> CheeseBurgerMan: what is flock?
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> err what the flock is flock?
[03:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> LeeJunFan: Firefox based browser
[03:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://flock.com ;)
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> CheeseBurgerMan: hrm, never heard of it.
[03:19] <Cornellius> bah, Opera all the way
[03:20] <Tommy2k4> i installed w32codecs and kaffeine plugin still wont play this video
[03:20] <imk> safari <3
[03:20] <erov> the libxine-extracodecs ?
[03:21] <LeeJunFan> CheeseBurgerMan: heh, looks pretty nice.
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, I mostly think so. :)
[03:22] <LeeJunFan> Healot: well that's cool that it works, it's about time amd64 linux could run flash w/o first installing excedrine migraine v1.0 (for newbies anyway).
[03:23] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: what video?
[03:23] <Tommy2k4> its a wmv
[03:23] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: ah, one other thing you may need to configure kaffeine/xine to look in the proper dir for the codecs, I think the page says to put them in /usr/local/lib/codecs but xine default is /usr/lib/codecs or something.
[03:24] <Tommy2k4> ok
[03:24] <Healot> LeeJunFan: you could send regrets to Adobe
[03:24] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: open kaffeine, go to settings->xine engine->decoder (tab) and set the path to external codecs.
[03:25] <LeeJunFan> Healot: regards you mean :) I sent regrets before when it didn't work. hee
[03:26] <Healot> LeeJunFan: regrets
[03:26] <Healot> pun intended
[03:26] <Tommy2k4> looks like theyre already in the right place
[03:27] <Healot> by the way, it's third party, the company isn't linux friendly, and I hate whiners
[03:29] <Tommy2k4> jeez all i wanna do is watch some porn b4 i go to bed
[03:29] <Tommy2k4> looks like ill have to boot into windows
[03:30] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: I haven't run into any wmv's that won't play yet.
[03:30] <Tommy2k4> ill get it working tomorrow
[03:30] <Tommy2k4> its 2.30am
[03:31] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: of course I did mine a little diff, I downloaded straight from mplayers site and untarred to codecs dir.
[03:31] <bernier> no it's 9:30 pm :P
[03:31] <Tommy2k4> but first where to i set preferred applications
[03:31] <Tommy2k4> do*
[03:32] <dj_perl> Hello, does anyone know how to get amaroK or kaffeine to produce any sound? I get system sounds, but no sounds from media players. Mixer settings look ok.
[03:32] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: there are a few ways, you can open konqueror and go to settings and set applications there, or you can right click an icon in konqueror, go to properties, then click the little wrench icon.
[03:32] <Tommy2k4> and how come when i right click on a program to click close the click also goes through to gaim and clicks the invite button
[03:32] <bernier> !tell dj_perl about restricted modules
[03:32] <LeeJunFan> Tommy2k4: I dunno about that one.
[03:33] <dj_perl> bernier, restricted modules?
[03:33] <Healot> !mp3
[03:33] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:33] <Tommy2k4> i had massive problems with the manual partitioner in the installer
[03:33] <Tommy2k4> ill prolly submit them as bugs tomorrow
[03:33] <bernier> !tell dj_perl about restricted formats
[03:33] <Healot> well that;s not for mp3 only... it solves most of your multimedia madness
[03:35] <Tommy2k4> time for windows
[03:35] <Tommy2k4> cya tomorrow ppl
[03:36] <Healot> his tomorrow or my tomorrow?
[03:37] <dj_perl> thanks
[03:37] <Healot> dj_perl: notes on amarok
[03:38] <Healot> change the output device to auto
[03:41] <KuLover> Why is it that my my harddrive, when not mounted, shows files. and when mounted, doesnt show files? Anyonw have this problem?
[03:48] <dj_perl> KuLover, do you have files at the mount point?
[03:48] <KuLover> Yes
[03:50] <dj_perl> KuLover, so it's possible that the device you're trying to mount has no files. But the mountpoint where you're trying to mount it, does have files. That would explain it.
[03:50] <jason> Hello
[03:50] <ChefWill> anyone know of a kde applet that will allow you to click on a window thats locked up to kill it?
[03:51] <KuLover> That must be it..
[03:51] <RadiantFire> ChefWill: hit ctrl+alt+esc
[03:52] <RadiantFire> same effect
[03:52] <jason> Anyone in here help a newbi with Adept problem?
[03:53] <boolka> Does anyone have  Intel 2200 B/G built in wifi card on a laptop and got it working? ( It sees the AP, but wont connect)
[03:54] <KuLover> dj_perl How would I set a drive to mount as root to where Me, the user can write files to it?
[03:55] <erov> usually the web may be a LOT more helpful as these same questions are asked frequently.. they are quite easy to solve though
[03:55] <jason> I'm a newb trying to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 with Adept
[03:56] <apokryphos> !faq
[03:56] <ubotu> faq is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions
[03:56] <apokryphos> jason: check there
[03:56] <bojan> my sound isnt working after upgrading to dapper =[
[03:56] <jason> Thanks..
[03:56] <bojan> everything looks ok, except I dont have /proc/sound
[03:57] <apokryphos> bojan: alsamixer in terminal -- anything muted?
[03:57] <bojan> but my sound card is listed in lspci
[03:57] <bojan> headphone is muted
[03:57] <apokryphos> PCM and Main both high and up?
[03:57] <bojan> Tone
[03:57] <bojan> master is nice
[03:57] <bojan> PCM is good
[03:58] <bojan> i've tried turning all of them up in Kmix
[03:58] <crimsun_> you shouldn't have /proc/sound. It's /proc/asound.
[03:58] <apokryphos> hm, ok. I've heard one or two others have this problem; I recommend checking launchpad
[03:59] <crimsun_> I need the output from ``asoundconf list && amixer'' on pastebin
[03:59] <bojan> ls /proc/asound returns: card0  cards  devices  hwdep  Live  modules  oss  pcm  seq  timers  version
[04:00] <bojan> ls /proc/asound/cards returns: /proc/asound/cards
[04:00] <crimsun_> seriously, I'm kinda busy, so please provide the info I asked for, thanks.
[04:00] <dj_perl> KuLover, enable the rw option while mounting.
[04:00] <bojan> sorry i miseed your line
[04:00] <KuLover> dj_perl Im not familiar with enableing rw, how is this done?
[04:01] <KuLover> is it a line in fstab?
[04:01] <ChefWill> anyone know how to get media control to work with xmms?
[04:01] <dj_perl> mount -o rw
[04:04] <KuLover> How can I edit fstab to do this?
[04:04] <bojan> result of asoundconf list && amixer is at http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/709885
[04:06] <crimsun_> bojan: amixer set 'IEC958 Optical Raw' off && amixer set 'Front' on && amixer set 'Wave' 80%,80%,on,on
[04:07] <crimsun_> (-> phone)
[04:08] <bojan> ok it seems to work
[04:08] <bojan> can i ask what did that do exactly
[04:08] <bojan> ?
[04:09] <dj_perl> KuLover, Edit the /etc/fstab and add rw to the options column.
[04:10] <bojan> like what do IEC985 Optical Raw, Front and Wave refer to? because in my KMix, Wave Center, Wave LFE and Wave Surround are still @ 0..?
[04:11] <ChefWill> anyone have an applet they use to control xmms from panel?
[04:11] <ChefWill> (besides xmms-kde applet)
[04:13] <bojan> where do u change kdm theme? also is it possible to change resolution of the login screen?
[04:15] <ChefWill> look in system settings from k menu
[04:15] <KuLover> dj_perl Thank You very much for your help. I looked on "http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html" and learned that "defaults" contains "rw" as a defualt as well as the settings i would like. I think I wil use defaults
[04:15] <dj_perl> You're very welcome. :)
[04:15] <bojan> i did and i cant find it in there? which category is it in?
[04:16] <ChefWill> appearance
[04:16] <dj_perl> Ok, where do I find those mp3 codecs again? I'm using Adept to search universe and multiverse repositories. Nada.
[04:17] <KuLover> dj_perl One more question.. how do I find the device name? (Eg: /dev/sdc/)
[04:17] <dj_perl> The device name for?
[04:18] <KuLover> dj_perl A hard drive
[04:18] <dj_perl> ls -al /dev/hd*
[04:18] <dj_perl> ?
[04:18] <bojan> In appearance there is: COlors, Fonts, GTK Styles, Icons, Style, and Window decoration.  Nothing about kdm as far as I can see =[
[04:18] <bojan> am i dumb?
[04:18] <RawSewage> how do you install programs on Linux again
[04:19] <RawSewage> taht arent in the repos
[04:19] <RawSewage> sunbird-0.3a2.en-US.linux-i686
[04:20] <RawSewage> sunbird-0.3a2.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2
[04:20] <RawSewage> how do I install that
[04:20] <KuLover> RawSewage Unpack it to where you would like it to be installed to, then run ./sunbird
[04:20] <RawSewage> KuLover, ty
[04:21] <KuLover> If it doesnt open, run it in terminal and see what libs it requires, then download the packages that contain those libs from the repos
[04:21] <KuLover> Your very welcome
[04:21] <ChefWill> dj_perl: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[04:22] <ChefWill> er
[04:22] <ChefWill> libxine-extracodecs
[04:22] <RawSewage> KuLover, it worked, thx
[04:22] <KuLover> Your very welcome :)
[04:22] <dj_perl> Can't find libxine-extracodecs in any repository.
[04:23] <KuLover> dj_perl If you still cant get it to work, look here http://wiki.kubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats there is all the info you will need to get it working :)
[04:23] <KuLover> dj_perl , You have to enable the correct repos before you will see those packages, check that link, it tells you how
[04:30] <dj_perl> KuLover, Checked that link. Enabled *all* repositories. Installed libarts1-xine, and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly . Still no sound in amaroK
[04:31] <ChefWill> anyone know why i get a bunch of error messages when i open up /etc/network/interfaces in terminal?
[04:31] <ChefWill> !paste
[04:31] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[04:32] <ChefWill> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15737
[04:32] <ChefWill> when i 'sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces'
[04:32] <EvilIdler> Use kdesu to run graphical programs, sudo for console
[04:33] <KuLover> dj_perl have you installed libxine-extracodecs?
[04:33] <KuLover> The one you doenlaoded is for Ubuntu
[04:33] <ChefWill> i get even more errors if i do that EvilIdler
[04:34] <KuLover> You will need the libxine-extracodecs package (Kubuntu)
[04:34] <KuLover> You still with us dj?
[04:34] <dj_perl> Yes
[04:34] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: What are the error messages?
[04:34] <KuLover> Yeah.. just try that.. see what happens
[04:34] <dj_perl> Can't find it in any repository.
[04:34] <KuLover> Oh.. I see..
[04:34] <ChefWill> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15737 are the one from sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces
[04:34] <KuLover> You are on Kubuntu rute?
[04:34] <KuLover> rite?*
[04:34] <dj_perl> Yes
[04:35] <KuLover> And you've followed this? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto#head-3af7264a0e97edbc5bf039e5bdb971f46c43269a
[04:35] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: What do you get with kdesu kate?
[04:36] <ChefWill> EvilIdler: these: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15738
[04:36] <dj_perl> well, that's for kubuntu 5. i'm on 6.06, using Adept.
[04:36] <KuLover> For this part, its the same thing.. the only difference it the URL
[04:37] <soundmaster80> is the alternative install the same install as we have been used to?
[04:37] <KuLover> Just enable main/restricted/univers/multiverse on the similar urls as shown in the guidand you should be fine
[04:37] <soundmaster80> I'm looking at dl'ing either the desktop CD or the alternative install
[04:37] <apokryphos> soundmaster80: /msg ubotu faq
[04:37] <apokryphos> lists the distinction
[04:38] <KuLover> Your used to the alternate, sound master.
[04:38] <KuLover> The desktop CD is the new one.
[04:38] <soundmaster80> ah
[04:38] <soundmaster80> glad it's not going anywhere
[04:38] <KuLover> :)
[04:38] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Have you used Automatix recently?
[04:38] <ChefWill> ? no
[04:38] <ChefWill> i just installed last night
[04:39] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Good. All I can find about the error message is related to people destroying their systems with Automatix, though :P
[04:39] <ChefWill> ;/
[04:39] <ChefWill> brb
[04:39] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Could you also paste your xorg.conf?
[04:41] <ChefWill> EvilIdler: xorg.conf you say?
[04:41] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Yes
[04:42] <EvilIdler> I dunno what that message *actually* means; it could be from any library KDE relies on :/
[04:42] <Pizmar> Hi
[04:42] <ChefWill> EvilIdler: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15739
[04:43] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Ah, as I suspected :)
[04:43] <dj_perl> Yeah!!! It worked! Thanks very much KuLover.
[04:43] <ChefWill> ?
[04:43] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: I see THREE (3) entries for a Wacom tablet :)
[04:43] <ChefWill> ?
[04:43] <ChefWill> i dont have a wacom tablet
[04:43] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: If you don't have a drawing tablet, delete all three entries :)
[04:44] <KuLover> Your welcome dj_perl! :)
[04:44] <KuLover> Glad it worked for ya!
[04:44] <ChefWill> wonder how they got there
[04:44] <Pizmar> So, my .mp3s and such.... When I double click them, the respective media player(bmp) opens them, but says something like "cannot play this format"
[04:44] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Sometimes the hardware detection is a bit..optimistic ;)
[04:45] <ChefWill> i still get the errors
[04:46] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: You need to exit X completely, restart KDM
[04:46] <ChefWill> ah ye
[04:46] <ChefWill> s
[04:46] <ChefWill> brb again :P
[04:46] <Pizmar> Also, xmms wont work at all
[04:47] <KuLover> dj_perl, gotta go. see ya
[04:47] <EvilIdler> Pizmar: There are at least two more recent projects based on XMMS. beep-media-player is one of them
[04:47] <ChefWill> whatd you say EvilIdler
[04:48] <Pizmar> whats the other?
[04:48] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Nothing yet. But if you still have errors, I'll say "AAARGH!" ;)
[04:48] <ChefWill> yea i logged out and in and i still have errors
[04:48] <EvilIdler> Pizmar: I don't remember the name, but Beep works fine for me
[04:48] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: What errors now?
[04:49] <Pizmar> well...
[04:49] <Pizmar> When I double click my mp3s(or choose open with bmp) bmp opens them, but says something like "cannot play this format"
[04:49] <ChefWill> EvilIdler: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15740
[04:50] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Did you delete all three device entries?
[04:50] <ChefWill> i think so
[04:51] <ChefWill> uea
[04:51] <EvilIdler> Pizmar: Have you installed the packages for those restricted formats?
[04:51] <Pizmar> yea
[04:51] <ChefWill> EvilIdler:  my xorgconf now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15741
[04:51] <Pizmar> It works if I drag the file into the playlist.
[04:51] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: There's an entry for Synaptics Touchpad, too
[04:51] <ChefWill> i have one of those
[04:53] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Using both mouse and pad?
[04:53] <ChefWill> no
[04:53] <ChefWill> never had a mouse
[04:53] <ChefWill> wait i should take this out shouldnt i?
[04:53] <EvilIdler> Pizmar: Odd. Dunno where to configure that :/
[04:54] <ChefWill> 	InputDevice     "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice     "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
[04:54] <ChefWill> InputDevice     "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
[04:54] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: The mouse section is probably what you need to take out. Those core events are probably useful for drawing programs
[04:54] <ChefWill> lemme logout
[04:56] <ChefWill> god
[04:56] <ChefWill> took all that stuff out and its still doing it
[04:56] <EvilIdler> Ugh!
[04:58] <ChefWill> i took all of that crap out
[05:01] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Perhaps reconfiguring X can fix it, other than that I dunno
[05:01] <ChefWill> how do i find out what device 168 is
[05:03] <winbond> can anyone tell me how has the 64bit drivers changed from the 32bit?  or have they pretty much stayed the same, how was it designed to work on 64bit?
[05:03] <EvilIdler> Dunno. The device errors can most likely be ignored, anyway, but if the program doesn't start at all, there's something else you can try
[05:04] <winbond> anyone using 64bit kubuntu?
[05:04] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Open a konsole and try 'xhost localhost', then run 'kdesu kate'
[05:04] <ChefWill> it starts
[05:04] <ChefWill> but its just whyyy are all those happening
[05:04] <ChefWill> same
[05:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> winbond: I am, why?
[05:05] <winbond> CheeseBurgerMan: i just wanna know how its working
[05:05] <winbond> im about to install it
[05:05] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: If you run a few Gnome programs from a console, you'll see far more warnings/failures than that ;)
[05:06] <ChefWill> well i always ran gedit from it and never got errors
[05:06] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: There are some that give pagefulls of warnings. Even programs I make and ensure all data is available for can come up with a bunch of warnings :)
[05:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> winbond: Well, it's works for what I need it to do. :)
[05:06] <ChefWill> yea oh well
[05:06] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Some warnings merely exist to inform you of missing features, not broken features
[05:07] <ChefWill> i guess ill just concentrate on stuff that doesnt work
[05:07] <RawSewage> how can I configure Konqueror so when I right click a folder, it gives me the option to add all mp3 in that folder to amarok playlist
[05:07] <ChefWill> you know how i can not make kdewallet prompt for pass everytime kmail starts?
[05:07] <winbond> CheeseBurgerMan: what do u need it to do?
[05:07] <winbond> CheeseBurgerMan: can i watch porn in 64bits at least?
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> winbond: Don't watch videos on here, I've heard not, but haven't really looked into it.
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> I don't use really use my computer for videos -- that's what the TV's for. ;)
[05:08] <winbond> CheeseBurgerMan: is it stable at least?
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes, it's stable.
[05:09] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Actually, removing the core events options from xorg.conf should remove those warnings
[05:09] <winbond> alrighty , im gonna give it a go
[05:09] <ChefWill> i did
[05:09] <ChefWill> well from the tablet and mouse
[05:09] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Did you ctrl-alt-backspace to really exit X?
[05:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> winbond: OK. Enjoy. :)
[05:09] <winbond> CheeseBurgerMan: thanks
[05:09] <ChefWill> i logged out
[05:09] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Remove the ones at the bottom of the xorg.conf
[05:09] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: Logging out is not restarting X
[05:11] <RawSewage> nm, I figured it out
[05:11] <winbond> whats that mod that will make the menu icons enlarge when you hover a pointer over it?
[05:12] <ChefWill> hrm, less errors now EvilIdler
[05:12] <ChefWill> EvilIdler: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15744
[05:13] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: If you have scim installed, try removing it
[05:14] <chavo> ChefWill, is that running kde apps with sudo?
[05:14] <ChefWill> yea
[05:14] <chavo> I think scim removes kubuntu-desktop
[05:14] <EvilIdler> kubuntu-desktop is just a dependency package
[05:14] <chavo> I know
[05:14] <gman_> I'm trying to use adept updater but get an error "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." Any ideas?
[05:14] <ChefWill> scim isnt installed EvilIdler
[05:15] <gman_> using dapper
[05:15] <ChefWill> ah no errors with kdesu EvilIdler :)
[05:15] <EvilIdler> Woo
[05:16] <ChefWill> now help me figure out how to not have kdewallet prompt me everytime kontact or kmail starts :P
[05:16] <chavo> ChefWill, I did it, but forgot how :(
[05:16] <EvilIdler> I don't use that :P
[05:16] <EvilIdler> Too paranoid.
[05:16] <ChefWill> cause having kmail remember my password is pointless if i have to enter it for kde wallet
[05:16] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: go into kdewallet, tell it to use a blank password
[05:26] <winbond> what can i use to do a md5 check in kubuntu?
[05:27] <CaBlGuY> wuttup peeps..
[05:28] <chavo> winbond, md5sum filename
[05:28] <CaBlGuY> anyone know of a decent alt. distro I can use to install on my windows drive..
[05:28] <chavo> CaBlGuY, alt?
[05:28] <winbond> nice, ty
[05:28] <CaBlGuY> yea, alternate distro
[05:28] <CaBlGuY> I got Ubuntu on this drive already...
[05:29] <chavo> have you tried any others?
[05:29] <CaBlGuY> I'm not returning to windowz and lookin for somethin I can put on that drive
[05:29] <CaBlGuY> chavo: I have. Suse 10.1 but I don't like it.. and Arklinux but it crashes..
[05:30] <chavo> I was going to suggest suse, I treid it too but it wasn't the same
[05:30] <CaBlGuY> chavo:  nope, and support sux..
[05:30] <chavo> well there's fedora core or mandriva for the newvie type distros
[05:30] <CaBlGuY> I really like Ubuntu but, I already got it on here..  I like to switch it up every once in a while anyway...
[05:30] <chavo> newbie
[05:31] <CaBlGuY> have u used Gentoo??
[05:31] <chavo> no
[05:31] <chavo> I've used a lot of distros, my first was redhat 5.0
[05:31] <CaBlGuY> I've heard some good stuff about it but I can't ever get it to install right..  :/
[05:32] <winbond> try linspire
[05:32] <CaBlGuY> WUSSAT?
[05:33] <CaBlGuY> !linspire
[05:33] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:33] <CaBlGuY> Hmm :/
[05:33] <winbond> google
[05:33] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[05:33] <ChefWill> aw man
[05:34] <ChefWill> dont you hate when you accientally extract a file containing a bunch of files to desktop instead of to a folder on desktop :P
[05:34] <winbond> yup that sucks
[05:34] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[05:34] <CaBlGuY> yep, not good..
[05:34] <CaBlGuY> u should be payin closer attention..  ;)
[05:34] <ChefWill> :P
[05:34] <ChefWill> im watching tv
[05:34] <winbond> especially when you have 100 files in the zip file
[05:34] <ChefWill> mythbusters
[05:34] <Hobbsee> haha yeah - then you just use the console to move them all back :P
[05:35] <ChefWill> winbond: try 500~
[05:35] <winbond> yeah , not good
[05:36] <CaBlGuY> join #freespire
[05:36] <CaBlGuY> oops..  :p
[05:39] <ChefWill> why does kbear crash whenever you try and move/copy a file :(
[05:39] <ChefWill> its such a nicely designed program - yet it cant to essentials
[05:40] <CaBlGuY> Hmm   dunno about any kbear there ChefWill saawwwree..
[05:40] <ChefWill> its a ncie program but it wont let you download or move/copy ANY files
[05:40] <ChefWill> it crashes
[05:41] <CaBlGuY> what is it exactly?
[05:41] <chavo> well how nice is it if it doesn't do it's job :P
[05:41] <CaBlGuY> LOL good point chavo..
[05:42] <winbond> ChefWill: is there anything that starts with K that doesnt randomly crash?
[05:43] <CaBlGuY> LOL  @ winbond..  now THAT'S FUNNY...
[05:43] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[05:44] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: i've never had kbear crash - did you run it thru gdb?
[05:44] <ChefWill> ?
[05:44] <LeeJunFan> winbond: they don't crash they krash!
[05:45] <winbond> well , i just go the Kget , been using it only for like 4 hours and i had prabably 5 crashes, average 1 an hour i guess,  pretty bad ratio
[05:46] <ChefWill> Hobbsee: ?
[05:46] <winbond> krash and burn , maybe the 64bit os wil be better
[05:47] <CaBlGuY> hehe   Kkkkkeeeeerraaaassh...
[05:47] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: install gdb, type gdb kbear, enter, run, and then do the same thing that you were doing to make it crash before
[05:47] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[05:47] <ChefWill> hrmm
[05:47] <Hobbsee> if it's SIGSEIV'ing anyway, you can copy the backtrace, and file a bug report
[05:47] <ChefWill> ill love you if this fixes it Hobbsee
[05:47] <Hobbsee> it wont, but it might give some indication to what is wrong...
[05:48] <ChefWill> a lot of people have told me same problem
[05:48] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: is there a bug report?
[05:49] <winbond> is anyone here running software raid0?
[05:49] <ChefWill> hold on running thru gdb
[05:49] <ChefWill> WARNING: KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file kbeartoolsplugin.rc
[05:49] <ChefWill> WARNING: KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file kbearsitemanagerui.rc
[05:50] <Hobbsee> !bug
[05:50] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[05:50] <ChefWill> kbear isnt in production anymore i dont think
[05:51] <ChefWill> KCrash: Application 'kbear' crashing...
[05:51] <ChefWill> Signal 11 SIGSEGV
[05:51] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: you might want to add it to the end of https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kbear/+bug/29915
[05:51] <Hobbsee> that whole error thing that you get
[05:51] <ChefWill> no real error
[05:52] <Hobbsee> oh, which version of kbear is this?
[05:52] <ChefWill> um
[05:52] <ChefWill> i just dl'd lemme look
[05:52] <ChefWill> 2.1
[05:55] <Ertain> Even though I've set up "sudoers", I still have to type in my password (under kdesu) just to use Adept.
[05:58] <Sc[_] tt> greetings all
[05:58] <Healot> hello kubuntuans
[05:58] <Sc[_] tt> ummm, can i mount my linux partition from winblows?
[05:59] <Sc[_] tt> hi Healot
[05:59] <AngryElf> how do i switch window managers?
[05:59] <Healot> Windows, you mean? Sc[_] tt?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> Sc[_] tt: yeah, there's a driver, or use explore2fs
[05:59] <Sc[_] tt> yes Healot
[05:59] <Healot> by default, no, but there are lots of 3rd party applications to do that
[06:00] <chavo> Sc[_] tt, it can be done yes
[06:00] <Healot> for example, Partition Magic 8.0
[06:00] <Healot> Rlinux etc...
[06:00] <Sc[_] tt> k chavo, and thanks hobbsee i'll look that up
[06:00] <Sc[_] tt> thanks Healot
[06:00] <chavo> the driver gave me bluescreens though
[06:00] <Ertain> How can I just use Adept without having to type in my password?  I've set up sudoers and that didn't help.
[06:01] <Sc[_] tt> i've heard and read explore2fs is stable, i just couldn't remember name
[06:02] <Sc[_] tt> hopefully i'll be rid of windows totally as soon as i get a few little apps working on linux
[06:02] <Sc[_] tt> then there will be a huge party
[06:03] <chavo> Sc[_] tt, explore2fs works well
[06:03] <Healot> btw
[06:04] <Ertain> No know knows about using "sudoers" and "kdesu"?  Figures.  I can never find people who know what I need. :-(
[06:04] <Healot> sudoers is the file for the user/group that can use "sudo"
[06:04] <Healot> kdesu is the graphical "su" for KDE, typically to run KDE GUI application
[06:04] <Sc[_] tt> Ertain: i've found that when i ask, sometimes people are actually spending a lot of looking for the answer for me... try to be patient, people here go way above and beyond to try to help
[06:05] <Sc[_] tt> lot of *time
[06:05] <Ertain> I wonder how to set up kdesu.  On to the manual.
[06:05] <winbond> i think there should be more projects to consolidate developers of the same kind of programs to make one or 2 good ones in each category instead of 20 apps that do same thing and suk
[06:06] <Ertain> Oh, how right you are, winbond.
[06:06] <Healot> Ertain: man sudoers
[06:06] <chavo> I think people should be free to do whatever they want
[06:06] <chavo> especially when writing free software
[06:06] <Ertain> Trouble is, it's either because the people don't have enough time, the project isn't that important, or people are just too egotistical to help the project.
[06:07] <Healot> what project?
[06:07] <Ertain> Any project.
[06:08] <winbond> yeah , im not saying anything against free , but lets get organized and put out something that rockz
[06:08] <Healot> join one if you like, Ertain
[06:09] <Ertain> You're right, winbond.  But it's quite hard to do this stuff.  Usually the people need the know-how and the will to help.
[06:09] <Sc[_] tt> have a good night all, thanks for the suggestion, i found what i needed
[06:13] <AngryElf> guys, in installed kubuntu desktop and it seemed to work out alright, when I first boot up the login screen works fine, but if I log out from a session it goes black and I can't do anything....crtl+alt+f1/2/3... doesn't do anything either
[06:13] <AngryElf> any ideas?
[06:15] <KaiserSuse> AngryElf: what's your graphics chipset/card?
[06:15] <winbond> ctrl alt backspace to restart x
[06:15] <AngryElf> ATI
[06:15] <AngryElf> it worked fine with gnome
[06:15] <winbond> did youget the fglrx drivers?
[06:15] <AngryElf> do i have to do it again for KDE?
[06:16] <winbond> dont know byt maybe you should reconfigure the x server
[06:16] <AngryElf> isn't the X server independent of kdm/gdm kde/gnome?
[06:16] <chavo> AngryElf, yes
[06:16] <AngryElf> so it's probably not the X server?
[06:17] <chavo> no
[06:17] <KaiserSuse> AngryElf: and your box still answers on the network? Like ping?
[06:17] <AngryElf> er....i dunno
[06:17] <AngryElf> didn't try that
[06:17] <winbond> its something to do with the video driver i think
[06:17] <winbond> my ati card also crashes a lot when i log out
[06:17] <AngryElf> i'll check the ping thing....i'll probably have to reboot
[06:17] <AngryElf> brb
[06:18] <KaiserSuse> AngryElf: and how do you recover from the blank screen?
[06:18] <winbond> i just reset the pc
[06:23] <AngryElf> so last we chatted i was in 1024x728, and I logged out and everything was fine.....log back in, switch to what'd i'd prefer (and shouldn't have problems with) 1280x1024, log out and get my blank screen
[06:23] <AngryElf> this time I logged in -- kicker crashed, try to start it up manually and it crashes again
[06:23] <AngryElf> and to whoever asked it -- I fix the black screen by a hard reset
[06:24] <obscurite> is anyone here connecting to a hidden 802.11b network with an atheros wifi card?
[06:24] <obscurite> (on dapper preferably)
[06:24] <KaiserSuse> AngryElf: and how do you change resolutions?
[06:24] <AngryElf> kcontrol
[06:25] <AngryElf> er, no i dont
[06:25] <AngryElf> whatever the system settings is on the K menu, which I can't get to now cause i dont have a panel cause kicker is dead
[06:25] <AngryElf> and i'm not all that familiar with kde yet to remeber what it's called
[06:27] <Hobbsee> system settings, or kcontrol
[06:27] <Hobbsee> AngryElf: kicker died?
[06:27] <AngryElf> system settings?
[06:27] <Hobbsee> try alt+f2, kicker
[06:27] <AngryElf> yes, kicker is currently dead
[06:27] <AngryElf> tried that
[06:27] <AngryElf> dies again
[06:27] <Hobbsee> ah...
[06:27] <Hobbsee> define "dies" - did it freeze, or just disappear
[06:28] <AngryElf> crashed - KDE crash handler popped up
[06:28] <AngryElf> backtrace doesn't show much
[06:28] <AngryElf> #27 0xb7f12362 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so
[06:28] <AngryElf> #28 0xb7c84ea2 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
[06:28] <AngryElf> #29 0x080483b1 in ?? ()
[06:28] <Hobbsee> mmm okay.  weird
[06:28] <KaiserSuse> AngryElf: have you customized much your KDE? You could always delete ~/.kde and start over
[06:28] <AngryElf> last 3 lines
[06:28] <Hobbsee> use pastebin for it
[06:28] <AngryElf> yea, it's all blue and sweet, yea sorry
[06:28] <AngryElf> you want the whole thing?
[06:28] <AngryElf> it's much the same, no errors
[06:28] <Hobbsee> AngryElf: yeah, we'll see if it makes sense
[06:29] <AngryElf> http://pastebin.com/710030
[06:29] <AngryElf> what's the command to open a terminal?
[06:29] <chavo> konaole
[06:29] <chavo> konsole
[06:29] <chavo> woops
[06:30] <AngryElf> what command opens system settings?
[06:30] <chavo> AngryElf, do this in konsole -> KDEHOME=~/kdetes kicker
[06:31] <AngryElf> got my bottom panel back up
[06:31] <chavo> systemsettings
[06:31] <AngryElf> but it's not configed the way I had it
[06:31] <chavo> AngryElf, that gave you a whole new configuration, so it's default
[06:32] <chavo> I think it may be one of the applets crashing kicker
[06:32] <AngryElf> is that a temporary thing, or will it reset to my old config
[06:32] <chavo> yes it's temporary
[06:32] <AngryElf> brb
[06:32] <chavo> you can always do that instead or removing your .kde folder
[06:33] <Hobbsee> eek, no idea
[06:33] <chavo> it's either an applet or maybe an app in the sytray
[06:36] <AngryElf> k, switched to 1152x864, logged out, nothin -- ping/ssh to this box works across the network -- rebooted, kicker didn't die at this resolutiion
[06:37] <chavo> wierd
[06:37] <AngryElf> nothin = blank screen, can't do anything
[06:37] <AngryElf> weird
[06:37] <AngryElf> :)
[06:37] <chavo> -)
[06:38] <AngryElf> i bet it totally has to do with the upgrade process
[06:38] <AngryElf> if i did a fresh install it'd work fine
[06:39] <AngryElf> is there some config file that controls the resolution of the login screen?
[06:39] <chavo> no it should use the resolution in xorg.conf
[06:40] <AngryElf> hmm, how do i switch back to gdm? maybe it's that
[06:40] <Hobbsee> AngryElf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm?
[06:40] <chavo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[06:40] <chavo> either one will work
[06:40] <Ertain> Hello once again, everyone. I'm trying to figure out how to make kdesu remember my password.  Whenever I choose Adept from the menu, kdesu pops up.
[06:40] <AngryElf> brb
[06:42] <Hobbsee> Ertain: i'm not sure that you can...
[06:42] <Hobbsee> unless you were to  log in as root...
[06:42] <Ertain> Figures. :-(
[06:51] <winbond> does the ati fglrx driver work with the 64bit kubuntu?
[06:55] <Healot> yes
[06:55] <Healot> the same procedure with few exceptions
[06:55] <winbond> which exceptions?
[06:56] <Healot> yup
[06:56] <winbond> im about to install it , wanna make sure i can use it
[06:56] <Healot> as explained in this
[06:56] <Healot> !ati
[06:56] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[06:56] <Healot> winbond: using the stock kernel driver or ATi official installer?
[06:57] <winbond> the apt-get fglrx
[06:57] <Healot> ok
[06:57] <Healot> would be easier then
[06:58] <winbond> ok , thanks you
[06:58] <winbond> thank
[06:58] <winbond> you
[06:59] <Healot> just follow throughly, missing a step could make you mad :)
[06:59] <Healot> just ask if problems pop up
[07:00] <winbond> ok , im off to get this thing installed
[07:00] <winbond> anyone running software raid0 by any chance?
[07:03] <NeoChaosX> hey
[07:04] <NeoChaosX> does anyone know of a way to have seperate views for Konqueror's file browsing and web browsing?
[07:04] <NeoChaosX> er, seperate windows rather
[07:05] <ChefWill> !flash
[07:05] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:06] <ChefWill> whats the name of flash plugin for dapper?
[07:06] <NeoChaosX> flashplayer-nonfree
[07:06] <ChefWill> the one on that man isnt right
[07:07] <NeoChaosX> they changed the name of the package in dapper for some reason
[07:07] <Hobbsee> change the wiki then?
[07:08] <ChefWill> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-nonfree
[07:08] <NeoChaosX> ChefWill: do you have multiverse enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:08] <NeoChaosX> ?
[07:08] <ChefWill> yep
[07:09] <NeoChaosX> did an apt-get update?
[07:09] <ChefWill> yep
[07:09] <NeoChaosX> well, that's funny
[07:09] <NeoChaosX> first off: I was wrong, it should be flashplugin-nonfree
[07:10] <ChefWill> .l: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[07:10] <NeoChaosX> That's weird
[07:10] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: got multiverse enabled?
[07:10] <ChefWill> what they do
[07:10] <ChefWill> yessss
[07:11] <NeoChaosX> You sure? Sounds like you may only have multiverse enabled on a few lines, not all of them
[07:11] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: pastebin your repos please?   there should be a " multiverse" after every universe
[07:11] <ChefWill> i promise i have multiverse enabled
[07:12] <ChefWill> its not there
[07:12] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: can we check it please?  :P
[07:12] <ChefWill> you can search for it?
[07:12] <Hobbsee> yeah, it's shown here
[07:12] <Hobbsee> so it is in the repos - unless yours are out of sync or something
[07:12] <ChefWill> !sources
[07:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[07:14] <ChefWill> something musta messed up my sources
[07:14] <AngryElf> i'm sorry to say this, but insatlling kubuntu-desktop has calused a world of hurt -- how do i get rid of it
[07:14] <AngryElf> maybe one day i'll try out a fresh install, but i dont want to bother with this :(
[07:14] <ChefWill> fresh install is only way to go imo
[07:14] <AngryElf> usually is
[07:15] <AngryElf> obviously removing kubuntu-desktop doesn't do the trick.....what will?
[07:15] <EvilIdler> Upgrade worked for me, then upgrade to 3.5.3
[07:15] <ChefWill> AngryElf:  log out click session options change to gnome
[07:15] <AngryElf> ugh, i can't log out
[07:15] <ChefWill> why
[07:15] <Hobbsee> AngryElf: removing libqt3-mt
[07:15] <AngryElf> hence "world of hurt"
[07:15] <ChefWill> fresh install ;)
[07:15] <EvilIdler> ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:15] <AngryElf> good question
[07:15] <Hobbsee> AngryElf: or just reinstall, either way.  upgrades sometimes work, sometimes dont.
[07:16] <AngryElf> thanx Hobbsee, i appreciate your help :)
[07:16] <ChefWill> any idea how id get kwallet to stop prompting me for pass for kmail/kontact everytime i load it?
[07:16] <AngryElf> i'm in gdm + gnome now and still can't log out from a session and get a working login page -- i hope this works
[07:29] <billy2willy> k, so I already have an install and I'm at a loss as to how to tell the partitioner on the live cd how to use the drives I have..
[07:30] <billy2willy> and how come there isn't a reiserfs option for formatting?
[07:30] <billy2willy> lame...
[07:31] <EvilIdler> Reiser took ages to mount for me, so I switched to JFS
[07:31] <billy2willy> yah, but I don't care how long it takes if it's a file server.
[07:32] <billy2willy> I just want to tell the installer to use the partitions I already have an use reiserfs... this is pretty lame guys...
[07:33] <EvilIdler> I had the option in Breezy, so it's strange if Reiser has gone missing in Dapper
[07:33] <billy2willy> the installer is a livecd now.
[07:33] <billy2willy> how do I force the livecd to use the good ole blue ncurses installer?
[07:34] <defrysk> download the alternative cd
[07:34] <defrysk> and use that
[07:35] <billy2willy> oh wait. maybe this isn't as sucky as I thought.
[07:37] <billy2willy> it's not obvious the the mount points are set on the following page. just looks like I'm destroying my partitions. that should all be on one page.
[07:39] <Healot> ChefWill: show us your /etc/apt/sources.list file :)
[07:39] <ChefWill> ...
[07:40] <ChefWill> kinda hard when you leave right after you ask
[07:40] <ChefWill> + i fixed it like 20min ago
[07:40] <EvilIdler> Remote closed = something crashed/net dropped etc.
[07:41] <orient2000> I did try to edit sources.list but it said I do not have permision to write. I am the only user. Where can I change my permision?
[07:41] <EvilIdler> orient2000: sudo is your friend, or kdesu
[07:41] <defrysk> orient2000, use sudo
[07:41] <defrysk> !tell orient2000 about sudo
[07:42] <orient2000> How should I use sudo?
[07:42] <orient2000> defrysk: thanks for tip.
[07:47] <ChefWill> EvilIdler: where you talking to me?
[07:47] <ChefWill> said just left on mine
[07:47] <EvilIdler> ChefWill: I see messages in parenthesis with a more specific quit reason on everyone
[07:48] <EvilIdler> IRC has a hundred ways to say "linkdead" :)
[07:57] <nomad111> hi all just installed kubuntu
[07:58] <TheHighChild> hi nomad111
[07:58] <nomad111> i was wondering if i can use a second monitor
[07:58] <nomad111> and extend my desktop to it
[07:58] <nomad111> can i do that in kubuntu
[07:58] <TheHighChild> nomad111: Sorry, I can't help you there. I am pretty sure the wiki or the forums have something on it
[07:59] <nomad111> ok how do u install programs is it: sudo apt-get install <program>
[08:00] <EvilIdler> That would be Xinerama or something, wouldn't it?
[08:00] <Hawkwind> nomad111: If you have an Nvidia card you can do twinview with the nvidia drivers
[08:00] <nomad111> i got a crappy intel onboard graphics car
[08:00] <nomad111> card*
[08:01] <Hawkwind> Then no
[08:01] <nomad111> lol
[08:01] <EvilIdler> Can your *hardware* do dual monitors?
[08:01] <Hawkwind> No onboard can
[08:01] <nomad111> yes
[08:01] <nomad111> i can do it windows
[08:02] <Hawkwind> nomad111: You have two monitor hookups ?
[08:02] <Lesiuk> welcome ;)
[08:02] <nomad111> im using a laptop with a serial port
[08:02] <nomad111> and i hav a crt monitor
[08:02] <Hawkwind> nomad111: You'd have to find intel drivers, and that's going to be tough
[08:02] <nomad111> lol i kno wat u mean
[08:03] <nomad111> does any1 kno of a mathematical program called matlab by the way
[08:03] <Healot> it's at intel.com
[08:03] <TheHighChild> nomad111: 1: You need to have dual video outputs. 2: You have to have the drivers to support that under linux
[08:04] <nomad111> ye i kno dont worry about its useless anyway
[08:04] <TheHighChild> nomad111: Matlab is going to cost you a lot of loot
[08:04] <nomad111> i kno
[08:04] <nomad111> there was one program i used called octave
[08:04] <nomad111> it was free
[08:04] <nomad111> but in fedora
[08:04] <EvilIdler> A student copy of Matlab isn't too expensive
[08:04] <nomad111> i dunno wat there is in ubuntu/debian
[08:04] <nomad111> im not actually look for matlab im looking for octave
[08:04] <TheHighChild> sudo apt-get install octave
[08:04] <TheHighChild> use adept if you want a gui
[08:04] <TheHighChild> Also, you may need to enable some repos to get it
[08:05] <nomad111> doesnt exist
[08:05] <nomad111> ahh yes repos
[08:05] <TheHighChild> hold on, I'll look a bit
[08:05] <nomad111> where is synaptic lol
[08:05] <nomad111> im completely new to this os
[08:06] <TheHighChild> nomad111: Octave is in the Universe
[08:06] <nomad111> where is synaptic or watever
[08:06] <nomad111> where do i enable repos
[08:06] <TheHighChild> !repos
[08:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:07] <TheHighChild> I don't know anything about synaptic, sorry
[08:08] <nomad111> lol this is ubuntu wiki doesnt completely relate to kubuntu
[08:08] <TheHighChild> Everything about Kubuntu and Ubuntu are the same except for the windowing system
[08:08] <EvilIdler> Kubuntu uses Ubuntu repositories.
[08:08] <TheHighChild> Aside from KDE for Kubuntu and Gnome for Ubuntu, there is no difference
[08:09] <Healot> it's not even a fork
[08:09] <TheHighChild> You can probably install synaptic also if you want
[08:11] <exceswater> hi all
[08:11] <exceswater> good morning :D
[08:11] <TheHighChild> hey exceswater
[08:13] <orient2000> How can I open private chanel to talk to someone?
[08:13] <TheHighChild> You can do /msg <name> but only if you're registered
[08:14] <Healot> to open a private query window
[08:14] <Healot> type /query $nickname message
[08:15] <orient2000> query Healot testing001
[08:16] <orient2000> query $Healot test001
[08:16] <EvilIdler> If you're using a reasonably modern IRC client, a simple /msg does the trick in a separate window
[08:16] <orient2000> nothing
[08:17] <TheHighChild> orient2000: You need a forward slash '/query TheHighChild test' without the apostraphes
[08:18] <Healot> or just click right on the nick list, there should be a query menu
[08:19] <orient2000> I do not have nick list on a right, I used to before.
[08:20] <TheHighChild> What client are you using?
[08:20] <exceswater> hello back
[08:20] <orient2000> Konversation
[08:20] <exceswater> who can tell me some nice mods for wolfenstein et
[08:20] <TheHighChild> exceswater: GLAD YOU ASKED
[08:20] <TheHighChild> Hold one one sec
[08:21] <exceswater> :d
[08:21] <TheHighChild> exceswater: ETpub is the going standard right now. It's a good pub mod. ETpro is a comp mod and pretty serious. I like being a pubstar so I play etpub
[08:21] <exceswater> :D
[08:22] <TheHighChild> exceswater: A couple of friends have made a mod called No Quarter, we are Beta testing now. Additional weapons, etc
[08:22] <TheHighChild> double as many classes
[08:22] <exceswater> etpub is a mod i understand :D ?
[08:22] <TheHighChild> yes
[08:22] <exceswater> one stupid question
[08:22] <exceswater> :D
[08:22] <TheHighChild> Or do you mena a full conversion mod like real combar elite?
[08:22] <exceswater> is there a mod what doesn't need to be played online ?
[08:22] <exceswater> something like counter strike.... to add bots ... or single player ?
[08:23] <TheHighChild> no single player.
[08:23] <TheHighChild> Some servers have bots, We have one up now
[08:23] <chavo> exceswater, there's omnibot and another one. but I've never tried them
[08:23] <TheHighChild> but they suck
[08:23] <exceswater> aha
[08:23] <exceswater> i found etpub
[08:24] <TheHighChild> orient2000: on the right side of Konversation, make sure you didn't pull the bar all the way to the right,
[08:25] <TheHighChild> are you new to ET exceswater?
[08:25] <exceswater> i am new to linux :d
[08:25] <exceswater> and to et "D
[08:25] <TheHighChild> ET is Win/Mac/Tux
[08:25] <TheHighChild> nice
[08:25] <TheHighChild> You might undergo some sound problems
[08:25] <TheHighChild> but they can be worked out
[08:26] <TheHighChild> Do you have a microphone?
[08:26] <orient2000> I did not.
[08:26] <exceswater> i have :D
[08:26] <exceswater> until no... no problems... with et
[08:26] <TheHighChild> orient2000: press ctrl + H
[08:26] <exceswater> only when i had to install
[08:26] <exceswater> :d
[08:27] <TheHighChild> exceswater: Want me to take you under my wing and make you barrel?
[08:27] <exceswater> i am so noob
[08:27] <exceswater> yup :D
[08:27] <orient2000> Names are there thanks.
[08:27] <TheHighChild> You want to get Teamspeak and we can chat?
[08:27] <exceswater> yes
[08:27] <exceswater> tell me the link
[08:27] <exceswater> and how to install it :d
[08:27] <TheHighChild> np orient2000 I just learned myself. I am new to IRC
[08:28] <TheHighChild> exceswater: http://goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads&id=2a
[08:29] <orient2000> 02:28]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) I guess I have to register. thanks a lot. Have a nice day. James.
[08:29] <TheHighChild> orient2000: registering is very easy, check it out
[08:29] <exceswater> ok
[08:29] <exceswater> i am downloading it right now
[08:29] <exceswater> tell me how can i install that mod
[08:30] <exceswater> etpub
[08:30] <exceswater> i downloaded it
[08:30] <TheHighChild> ok, where do you want to install this to?
[08:30] <TheHighChild> Where have you installed ET?
[08:30] <exceswater> in home/user/games/wolfenstein
[08:31] <exceswater> something like that
[08:31] <exceswater> i have to unzip it to same folder ?>
[08:31] <TheHighChild> exceswater:  in /usr/local/games/enemy-territory? or what you said?
[08:31] <TheHighChild> Do you use the command line?
[08:31] <TheHighChild> That's what I use and can best give instructions on
[08:32] <TheHighChild> it's pretty easy, like 4 commands or less
[08:32] <exceswater> i unziped it in the same directory where et in installed :D
[08:32] <exceswater> is that ok ?
[08:32] <TheHighChild> should be fine. Hopefully it's in your $PATH
[08:32] <exceswater> it's there
[08:33] <exceswater> now i wait to have teamspeak
[08:33] <exceswater> :D
[08:33] <exceswater> it's 70%
[08:33] <exceswater> :D
[08:33] <TheHighChild> ok, if it's unzipped. Open up konsole and cd to the directory you've unzipped it
[08:33] <exceswater> k
[08:33] <TheHighChild> 70%?
[08:33] <exceswater> k
[08:34] <TheHighChild> What does 70% mean?
[08:34] <exceswater> you are talking about et mod or TEAM SPEAK
[08:34] <exceswater> download for team speak is 90 % ok
[08:34] <exceswater> it has 10 %  more and it's done
[08:34] <exceswater> :D
[08:34] <TheHighChild> oh ok
[08:34] <exceswater> for etpub
[08:34] <exceswater> if it's not any more command
[08:35] <exceswater> i think i just have to install it from the game
[08:35] <exceswater> :D
[08:35] <exceswater> ok
[08:35] <exceswater> team speak done
[08:36] <exceswater> one little thing
[08:36] <TheHighChild> are you registered on freenode exceswater?
[08:36] <exceswater> tell me how can i make a shortcut to a program on my desktop in kubuntu
[08:36] <exceswater> i am registered
[08:36] <exceswater> :d
[08:36] <exceswater> come to prv
[08:37] <TheHighChild> in konsole you can 'cd' into ~/Desktop and type 'ln -s /location/of/the/file/you/want/to/link'
[08:37] <orient2000> I just wanted you to know thay sell Ubuntu wine in Toronto. It cost 11.00 c$. It is wine from South Africa. I hope you find it interesting. Have a nice day. James.
[08:38] <CaptainMorgan_> ooh la la - breezy gave me so many headaches... kubuntu dapper makes it easy
[08:38] <CaptainMorgan_> wireless is a beaut
[08:40] <hangfire> does anyone have problems getting the "edit bookmarks" to work in Konversation IRC client?
[08:40] <nixternal> works for me hangfire
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan_> what exactly do you bookmark? urls?
[08:41] <hangfire> nix- dang, I might have to uninstall/reinstall then
[08:41] <hangfire> no, the bookmarks for IRC channels
[08:41] <TheHighChild> a bit drastic eh hangfire?
[08:41] <hangfire> well I have to clean out my bookmarks
[08:41] <CaptainMorgan_> what do you have bookmarked?
[08:41] <CaptainMorgan_> channels?
[08:42] <hangfire> yes, my fav IRC channels
[08:42] <CaptainMorgan_> I don't get the point of the bookmark in a Irc... oh..
[08:42] <hangfire> thats why I like Konvesation, its a good simple IRC client
[08:42] <CaptainMorgan_> pretty satisfied here too
[08:42] <TheHighChild> my options for adding bookmarks are greyed out
[08:42] <hangfire> so you can switch IRC channels fast, you dont have to type them into the command line
[08:42] <FHX> Could someone help? My Kubuntu won't recognize/read any USB devices plugged in
[08:43] <FHX> With the exception of the mouse and keyboard
[08:43] <FHX> =_=
[08:43] <CaptainMorgan_> hmm I don't usually switch in and out....I usually have a the autoconnect to my top 10-15
[08:43] <_keffo> Oy people..  Any suggestions why the desktop is unresponsive? There is nothing there, and rightclicking does nada..?
[08:43] <CaptainMorgan_> any more than that I can't keep track..
[08:43] <FHX> o.O anybody know how I can fix this stupid USB problem?
[08:44] <_keffo> unresponsive might have been a bad choice of word.. 'disabled' might fit better :)
[08:44] <FHX> .___.
[08:44] <word> _keffo: Meh...stop saying word ;p
[08:45] <_keffo> word up
[08:46] <Healot> define "stupid"
[08:46] <ChefWill> anyone got a min to help me figure out whats wrong with my wifi? :o
[08:46] <hangfire> you might have your desktop locked
[08:46] <CaptainMorgan_> my wireless is working word!
[08:46] <ChefWill> mines nto
[08:46] <ChefWill> not sure why either
[08:46] <word> CaptainMorgan_: yay
[08:46] <_keffo> hangfire: how? desktop icons are enabled if that's what u mean
[08:47] <hangfire> well if you click the log out window there is a lock screen option
[08:47] <_keffo> hangfire: It's a fresh install too, done nothing more than update, no reboot yet, for example
[08:47] <hangfire> maybe you clicked that by mistake
[08:47] <_keffo> no, everything works fine, except the desktop 'surface' is dead.
[08:48] <hangfire> oh
[08:48] <ChefWill> my wifi card has extensions in iwconfig, yet t doesnt seem to be working
[08:48] <_keffo> nothing in /desktop/ ends up there, and no rightclick, and also no selection-rect etc.
[08:50] <CaptainMorgan_> ChefWill: mine worked magically through WLan assistant
[08:50] <hangfire> keffo, do you have any programs running in the background? type ps into your console
[08:50] <ChefWill> lucky
[08:50] <ChefWill> mines showing up what appears to be right, its just not working
[08:50] <_keffo> hangfire: and?
[08:50] <_keffo> hangfire: pretty empty I'd say
[08:51] <hangfire> ok, then its not a background process
[08:51] <_keffo> Like I said, i've installed, updated, then konversation is all i've done. :)
[08:52] <CaptainMorgan_> that's what i said too... there's more to it.. keep digging
[08:52] <_keffo> hangfire: Actually, now that I think about it, kdesktop crashed the very first thing after the install... might be related. :)
[08:53] <RawSewage> tj9991,  we need you idling at #Boringville
[08:53] <hangfire> wow, a desktop crash, havent heard about that
[08:53] <Cornellius> no bsod at least
[08:54] <_keffo> I also get "cpu overload, aborting", when I click Apply, after changing the time.. :)
[08:54] <Cornellius> cpu overload ??
[08:54] <RawSewage> tj9991, you there, Champ??
[08:55] <Cornellius> Man, TiMidity really likes the CPU
[08:55] <_keffo> All sorts of funky stuff happened when I installed the x64 release on a dualcore athlon too..
[08:55] <_keffo> brb, gonna restart and see if the desktop wakes up
[08:56] <CaptainMorgan_> possible to make System Menu/Home Folder a separate link and place it in a panel?
[08:57] <CaptainMorgan_> err.. so I can place it in a panel?
[08:58] <hangfire> yes it is
[08:58] <CaptainMorgan_> how?
[08:58] <hangfire> go to places menu and right click on the icon
[08:59] <CaptainMorgan_> 'places' ?
[08:59] <hangfire> whoops, Im on gnome ubuntu
[09:00] <hangfire> just right click on the home icon where ever that is on KDE
[09:00] <CaptainMorgan_> aye... knew how to do it in gnome... if anyone knows please tell... hangfire that doesn't work
[09:00] <CaptainMorgan_> not in my kde at least...
[09:01] <kepler> yep, exactly that was the problem. :(
[09:01] <CaptainMorgan_> right clicking actually opens the place just as the left would
[09:01] <kepler> I mean :)!
[09:02] <ChefWill> i just cant seem to get right wifi settings for our network
[09:02] <hangfire> right click on the desktop toolbar, I think there is an icon config there
[09:03] <Ashex> how would I go about getting kubuntu to detect a gigabit card I just installed?
[09:03] <CaptainMorgan_> shoul
[09:03] <CaptainMorgan_> d
[09:03] <ChefWill> you talking to me?
[09:03] <ChefWill> oh awesome, a dead body found 2 miles from me ;o
[09:03] <word> hmmm...do pretzals go bad?
[09:04] <CaptainMorgan_> word - no
[09:04] <word> CaptainMorgan_: Good lol...
[09:04] <CaptainMorgan_> ChefWill: keep your mouth shut...
[09:04] <CaptainMorgan_> :)
[09:05] <ChefWill> not really
[09:05] <ChefWill> as long as they dont go stale
[09:06] <ChefWill> dangit, now thers no wifi networks listed
[09:06] <CaptainMorgan_> omg.. kde's icon list is huge
[09:06] <mrmist> Hi guys... need some help
[09:07] <mrmist> I can't remember what small application to use to display all the "input" messages going to "X"...
[09:07] <mrmist> I need to reconfigure some multimedia keys on my laptop
[09:07] <mrmist> Anyone remember how ?
[09:09] <PyroMithrandir> mrmist, xev
[09:09] <mrmist> PyroMithrandir: Thanks :)
[09:09] <PyroMithrandir> for X EVents :)
[09:09] <mrmist> argh
[09:09] <mrmist> The keys don't show in it...
[09:10] <PyroMithrandir> ah, that's too bad
[09:10] <mrmist> what do I do now then ?
[09:10] <mrmist> Do I need som special drivers for my keyboard ?
[09:10] <PyroMithrandir> well, google for it, see if you can find any
[09:10] <PyroMithrandir> but you might just be out of luck
[09:11] <PyroMithrandir> I've got a couple buttons on my mouse that I can't use because they don't show up in xev
[09:13] <Ertain> For some strange reason, I have the window contents, but no window decorations.  I don't have minimize buttons, title, nothing.
[09:13] <Ertain> Btw, I'm using Kubuntu.
[09:13] <PyroMithrandir> Ertain, you using xgl by chance?
[09:13] <Ertain> Nope.
[09:13] <pascal_> Has anybody had any problems with the clock of the computere being set 7 minnutes forward of the real time everytime you restart?
[09:14] <PyroMithrandir> Ertain, do they come back if you log in and out?
[09:14] <PyroMithrandir> and do they show up in other accounts?
[09:14] <mrmist> Thing is though... the volume keys don't work in windows wither
[09:14] <mrmist> either
[09:15] <Ertain> Though I was trying to make Skim work.  I looked on their website and tried to follow their directions.
[09:15] <PyroMithrandir> pascal_, you might want to check your BIOS clock is set 7 minutes ahead
[09:15] <PyroMithrandir> well, mrmist, I hate to break it to you, but you're probably out of luck
[09:15] <pascal_> ok, shouldn't kubutu set my BIOS clock automatically though?
[09:16] <mrmist> PyroMithrandir: hehe.... I know
[09:16] <mrmist> just wanted to hear anyway
[09:16] <mrmist> a but sad though
[09:16] <PyroMithrandir> well, it might, I don't remember, pascal_, but it might not
[09:16] <PyroMithrandir> mrmist, you can set volume elsewhere
[09:16] <PyroMithrandir> use kmix
[09:16] <pascal_> I will check it out. thx
[09:20] <ChefWill> my wifi hangs on "Activation stage: configuring device"
[09:20] <ChefWill> itll sit on there for a full minute then just stop and go back to wired ethernet :(
[09:20] <ChefWill> even if its a network it auto detected
[09:21] <ChefWill> man
[09:21] <ChefWill> :(
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan_> sorry Kopete... going back to gaim
[09:22] <Healot> heh
[09:22] <ChefWill> someone help me out? trying to get wifi to work in knetworkmanager
[09:23] <ChefWill> it shows nearby wifi networks but it wont connect to mine or any others it detects
[09:23] <kosh> sorry I can't help with that
[09:23] <pascal_> That did it, but I think it should set it automatically. Didn't breezy set the clock automatically upon startup?
[09:23] <CaptainMorgan_> ChefWill: that for lan's too?
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan_> not default in kubuntu, no? you install it?
[09:24] <ChefWill> yea
[09:24] <ChefWill> its the best
[09:24] <ChefWill> i cant get it working though
[09:24] <ChefWill> it detects all the networks but it wont connect
[09:25] <ChefWill> it gets stuck at configuring device
[09:26] <RawSewage> How many hundreds of spam do I have to Bogofilter before 1 spam is filtered
[09:27] <ChefWill> seems to be a common problem CaptainMorgan_
[09:27] <ChefWill> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=5813.0
[09:27] <ChefWill> ;(
[09:27] <ChefWill> exactly whats happening to me
[09:27] <PyroMithrandir> pascal_, apparently, dapper is still setting it automatically upon startup ;)
[09:27] <PyroMithrandir> but, I guess you mean setting the bios clock upon shutdown
[09:28] <pascal_> but, it didn't do that on mine...
[09:28] <PyroMithrandir> and I don't remember. I know I've had a distro that has done that in the past
[09:29] <pascal_> breezy said "synchronizing with npt.ubunt....." or something like that when starting up. dapper doesn't do that.
[09:29] <pascal_> I've been setting the clock through KDE the last couple of days.. but it doesn't set the hardware clock apparently
[09:30] <ChefWill> your time zone must not be set right
[09:30] <pascal_> it is... and was only off by seven minuttes.
[09:31] <pascal_> Now its correct, but my guess is that it will change in the next month or something.
[09:32] <pascal_> only because I set it manually in the BIOS
[09:32] <PyroMithrandir> pascal_, open up your date and time and see if the "Set date and time automatically" is checked
[09:33] <PyroMithrandir> because that's the npt time server syncing thing
[09:33] <pascal_> it is
[09:33] <pascal_> you mean in the KDE clock right?
[09:33] <PyroMithrandir> yea
[09:33] <pascal_> europe.pool.ntp.org
[09:35] <pascal_> KDE syncs correctly... but problem was that it wasn't saved to the hardware clock and when I restart the time is off again
[09:35] <pascal_> except now when I set it manually in the BIOS
[09:35] <katakombi>  pascal_ what's your computer? a rather new one?
[09:36] <pascal_> Sempron 2600+
[09:36] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hello, I'm having a problem installing some software with dapper drake
[09:36] <pascal_> rather new.. it worked fine in breezy...
[09:37] <katakombi> pascal_ for real excitement look at this: http://www.ailis.de/~k/docs/delld820/
[09:37] <pascal_> This is an install from the dapper RC though... I don't know if that would mean something
[09:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and my taskbar just disappeared
[09:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[09:38] <pascal_> hehe, thats strange
[09:39] <[Evil] [Ernie] > indeed
[09:39] <katakombi> pascal_ i think many users have problems with time / date currently
[09:39] <[Evil] [Ernie] > is there any key combination that would hide the taskbar?
[09:40] <pascal_> [Evil] [Ernie]  cant you rightclick on the kicker and add it as an applet?
[09:40] <[Evil] [Ernie] > kicker?
[09:40] <pascal_> yeah the panel in the bottom that the taskbar is on
[09:40] <RawSewage> Big update tooday
[09:41] <ChefWill> ive seen a lot of posts on this wifi issue but no resolutions :(
[09:41] <stephenford> anyone know if i can buy a method to play mpy's and dvd's legally on linux in the uk?
[09:41] <[Evil] [Ernie] > there is no panel now, it disappeared
[09:41] <stephenford> mpy3 = mp3's
[09:41] <RawSewage> lol
[09:41] <RawSewage> Dont you know how to play  mp3
[09:41] <pascal_> [Evil] [Ernie]  if that is what you are missing, just run the program kicker
[09:41] <stephenford> i know how but legally is different
[09:41] <stephenford> and dvds is more important
[09:42] <RawSewage> Ive never heard of having to get a license to play mp3
[09:42] <stephenford> nore have i
[09:42] <pascal_> stephenford isn't it just illegal in the US?
[09:43] <stephenford> ahhhh k
[09:43] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well
[09:43] <stephenford> but dvds
[09:43] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i'm not sure how to run a program without access to that taskbar
[09:43] <PyroMithrandir> alt f2
[09:43] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thanks!
[09:43] <PyroMithrandir> np
[09:44] <[Evil] [Ernie] > running "kicker" didn't bring back the taskbar however!
[09:44] <pascal_> stephenford if you buy a commercial linux dist with mp3/dvd support out of the box you have allready payed the license.
[09:44] <Healot> yeah
[09:44] <stephenford> i know that
[09:44] <stephenford> ive got a coupl
[09:44] <stephenford> e
[09:44] <bulltitan> can some one tell me what is cedega?
[09:44] <RawSewage> it's Wine for games
[09:45] <bulltitan> :D ho cool where do i get it from1?
[09:45] <RawSewage> I dont know.  It costs money
[09:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > transgaming.com maybe
[09:45] <bulltitan> :(
[09:45] <RawSewage> I think it's free if you compile it yourself
[09:45] <CaptainMorgan_> mmk.. this is impossible... checking properties ona storage device, I choose calculate and it's going way over the limit... for exampe, 25gig - yet it's reading 32gig and counting!?
[09:45] <bulltitan> well i've done a lot of compiling now i think i'm up for the challenge
[09:46] <stephenford> lol famous last words
[09:47] <bulltitan> :|
[09:47] <[Evil] [Ernie] > how would i reboot without the taskbar?
[09:47] <pascal_> [Evil] [Ernie]  did you click on the hide taskbar button? could be out in the sides of the taskbar. but not enabled by default
[09:47] <CaptainMorgan_> alt-f1?
[09:48] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i dont see anything in the corners that i can click on to unhide it
[09:48] <[Evil] [Ernie] > just to be sure, i already clicked there too
[09:48] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it just mysteriously disappeared for no apparent reason
[09:48] <vranikx> hello all
[09:49] <pascal_> ok. alt+f2 write konsole. then type the command sudo shutdown -h now
[09:49] <PyroMithrandir> wait
[09:49] <PyroMithrandir> before you do that
[09:49] <bulltitan> today i've realized that k3b has a brother in genome and it is genomebaker
[09:49] <PyroMithrandir> alt+f2 write konsole and then type ps -e |grep kicker
[09:49] <[Evil] [Ernie] > alright
[09:50] <PyroMithrandir> and tell us if it says anythnig
[09:50] <[Evil] [Ernie] > 4938 ? 00:00:18 kicker
[09:50] <[Evil] [Ernie] > is the result
[09:50] <PyroMithrandir> the kicker program is running
[09:50] <PyroMithrandir> you could do a kill 4938 and then a kicker and see if it comes back
[09:51] <[Evil] [Ernie] > roger that
[09:51] <CaptainMorgan_> mmk.. this is impossible... checking properties ona storage device, I choose calculate and it's going way over the limit... for exampe, 25gig - yet it's reading 32gig and counting!?
[09:52] <stephenford> captainmorgan cant help you sorry does the same on my machine
[09:52] <[Evil] [Ernie] > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitiated input device 168
[09:52] <[Evil] [Ernie] > after killing, then attempting to run kicker again
[09:52] <stephenford> are you checking a fat partition by any chanse?
[09:52] <CaptainMorgan_> stephenford: yours goes over too?
[09:52] <CaptainMorgan_> hmmm...
[09:52] <CaptainMorgan_> stephenford: yes - the on kubuntu is on :)
[09:53] <PyroMithrandir> [Evil] [Ernie] , uh, that's really weird
[09:53] <[Evil] [Ernie] > appears to be running again however
[09:53] <PyroMithrandir> oh
[09:53] <PyroMithrandir> well
[09:53] <PyroMithrandir> not so bad then
[09:53] <PyroMithrandir> or, wait, can you see it?
[09:53] <cox377_> Hey all
[09:53] <[Evil] [Ernie] > 7340 pts/1 00:00:00 kicker
[09:53] <[Evil] [Ernie] > still can't see it
[09:53] <PyroMithrandir> wait a second...
[09:53] <mth`MAW> Moin
[09:53] <[Evil] [Ernie] > that is the response to another ps -e |grep thing.. =o
[09:53] <PyroMithrandir> yeah, yeah
[09:53] <stephenford> linux is still not very intermediate user friendly
[09:53] <mth`MAW> I ment: hi there
[09:54] <mth`MAW> IT IS User friendly...
[09:54] <mth`MAW> but it chooses its users very well
[09:54] <stephenford> its new user friendly
[09:54] <[Evil] [Ernie] > :)
[09:54] <PyroMithrandir> I'm just thinking... maybe yo ushould restart and see if it gets fixed, ernie
[09:54] <stephenford> and advance user friendly
[09:54] <[Evil] [Ernie] > will do
[09:54] <CaptainMorgan_> PyroMithrandir: restarting shouldn't be an option..
[09:54] <stephenford> but i should be able just to check how much disk space i have left without learning a command line
[09:54] <[Evil] [Ernie] > sudo shutdown -h, right?
[09:55] <stephenford> or downloading a program
[09:55] <PyroMithrandir> sudo shutdown -h now
[09:55] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ah
[09:55] <[Evil] [Ernie] > okay, be right back! Hopefully!
[09:55] <pascal_> and a now. but try to take the mouse to the corners of your screen
[09:55] <defrysk>  poweroff
[09:55] <PyroMithrandir> CaptainMorgan_, what?
[09:55] <defrysk> will do
[09:55] <RawSewage> tj9991, you need to go to #Boringville, ok , SPORt??
[09:56] <tj9991> i need to remember to buy a short coaxial cable
[09:56] <tj9991> its not fun switching from my normal tv to my computer all the time
[09:57] <stephenford> anyone care to enlighten us of how to check disk space
[09:57] <RawSewage> tj9991, just idle there until I can reg it
[09:57] <RawSewage> df -h
[09:58] <tj9991> why are you unable to register it now
[09:58] <Healot> df -mh
[09:58] <RawSewage> need 4
[09:58] <RawSewage> whats the m for
[09:58] <stephenford> the really annoying thing is i can really see how linux is better than windows
[09:58] <RawSewage> oh
[09:58] <RawSewage> then install Karamba
[09:58] <RawSewage> SuperKaramba
[09:59] <RawSewage> and use the Disk plugin
[09:59] <RawSewage> it puts a thing on your desktop to show
[09:59] <PyroMithrandir> ... man df doesn't even show a -m option...
[09:59] <RawSewage> I use df -h
[09:59] <Healot> kwikdisk
[10:00] <RawSewage> Whats that
[10:00] <Healot> !info kwikdisk
[10:00] <ChefWill_> A0F79CE1E3 would be a WEP Hex key is it not?
[10:00] <Healot> !info kdf
[10:00] <ubotu> kdf: (disk space utility for KDE), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), Packaged size: 320 kB, Installed size: 948 kB
[10:00] <stephenford> i guess liunx is all about comand lines huh
[10:01] <RawSewage> cool
[10:01] <stephenford> anyone got a page of common kubuntu commandlines then?
[10:01] <Healot> stephenford: linux is about running the penguin down the slope :)
[10:01] <Healot> RawSewage: the main program is called "kwikdisk"
[10:01] <RawSewage> Linux is about realizing anything can be changed and not assuming the defaults are everything
[10:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > Weird!
[10:01] <PyroMithrandir> it come back?
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > no
[10:02] <RawSewage> And realizing anything you want to be done can be done
[10:02] <stephenford> or are all these seperate programs
[10:02] <PyroMithrandir> try with a different user account
[10:02] <RawSewage> You have to shake that Windows mentality of  It is what it is
[10:02] <bulltitan> a dumb thing to pinpoint, it's a good idea from kubuntu's side and all the other flavors to put memtest in their boot menu
[10:02] <PyroMithrandir> stephenford, are all what seperate programs?
[10:03] <RawSewage> Healot, do I have kdf installed by default?
[10:03] <PyroMithrandir> different things to type in a terminal? yes
[10:03] <Healot> section universe/utils, is optional << no, RawSewage
[10:03] <gan|y|med> good morning
[10:03] <[Evil] [Ernie] > there is only one user account at the moment
[10:03] <RawSewage> tj9991, I need 4 people there so I can reg it, ok, Champ
[10:03] <gan|y|med> i have an EMERGENCY
[10:03] <PyroMithrandir> !question
[10:03] <ubotu> PyroMithrandir: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:03] <PyroMithrandir> erm
[10:03] <PyroMithrandir> !ask
[10:03] <Healot> enabled "dapper" universe repos, and get kdf...
[10:03] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:04] <gan|y|med> how do i use the captive ntfs drivers in ubuntu?
[10:04] <PyroMithrandir> !ntfs
[10:04] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[10:04] <Child4Christ> hi, is there a difference in the dvd version of Kubuntu rather than it just being a different medium?
[10:04] <PyroMithrandir> !captive
[10:04] <ubotu> hmm... captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[10:04] <Healot> captive is a third party driver/application
[10:05] <gan|y|med> but it's said to be part of the kernel
[10:05] <Healot> use at own risk they say
[10:05] <Healot> gan|y|med: yeah, it is compiled against the kernel source, as kernel module or module at your choice
[10:05] <gan|y|med> hey the whole fss stuff is at your own risk
[10:05] <waterglass> hi, i just got a microsoft ergonomics keytboard to use with my linux and i love it but half the keys aren't recognised on the system, does anyone know of a good program that i can use for this? or a good online how-to? i'm googling away but haven't come up with anything useful yet.. thansk in advance
[10:06] <CaptainMorgan_> gan|y|med: are you drowning?
[10:06] <nomad111> hey every1
[10:06] <nomad111> i cant seem to find libxine-extracodecs
[10:06] <gan|y|med> so i have to download it seperately?
[10:06] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[10:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[10:06] <Healot> well, ubuntu comes with a professional paid support
[10:06] <nomad111> ive enabled multiverse and universe
[10:06] <gan|y|med> my windows is drowning
[10:06] <gan|y|med> and i am a student...
[10:06] <Healot> nomad111: add universe+multiverse on the dapper repos
[10:06] <Healot> not the dapper-backport repos
[10:06] <gan|y|med> still the same burden...
[10:06] <nomad111> can it be done from the konsole
[10:07] <Healot> nomad111: sure
[10:07] <bulltitan> windows is dead it just needs to be buried
[10:07] <Healot> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list - nomad111
[10:07] <Healot> bulltitan: no
[10:07] <Healot> I live with Windows!
[10:07] <Healot> and GNU/Linux
[10:07] <Healot> variant is good!
[10:08] <CaptainMorgan_> are those Harvey Windows??? nice
[10:08] <Healot> s/variant/variety
[10:08] <bulltitan> yep i know a windows has some good things
[10:08] <Healot> not Windows is a copyrighted trademark of Microsoft Corporation :)
[10:08] <[Evil] [Ernie] > what's the name of the web browser this comes with again? kubuntu dapper drake
[10:08] <Healot> s/not/note
[10:09] <Healot> Konqueror
[10:09] <bulltitan> no man i don't say that
[10:09] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thanks
[10:09] <nomad111> Healot: i dont hav the multiverse line in the source.lst
[10:09] <nomad111> Healot: just the backports one
[10:09] <bulltitan> i mean i can still get a crack to use it freely :P
[10:09] <bulltitan> ho hum i'm not a pirate just a victim
[10:09] <Healot> nomad111: paste me all the lines without comments (the working lines)
[10:09] <gan|y|med> there is a joke about the windows and windows... but i don't remember it. well, i have a virus. and by the way, kubuntu still has no standard gui for setting up iptables...
[10:10] <Healot> I can help you fix you sources.list ...
[10:10] <nomad111> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <nomad111> sorry
[10:10] <Healot> gan|y|med: "firestarter"
[10:10] <bulltitan> anyway i don't use it anymore
[10:10] <nomad111> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[10:10] <nomad111> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[10:10] <Healot> I am a Firestarter
[10:10] <Healot> !infor firestarter
[10:10] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[10:10] <Child4Christ> isnt firestarter gnome based?
[10:10] <CaptainMorgan_> !firestarter
[10:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[10:10] <nomad111> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:10] <Healot> !info firestarter
[10:10] <ubotu> firestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 381 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB
[10:10] <nomad111> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[10:11] <Healot> yep, but there isn't a minus for running GNOME apps
[10:11] <Child4Christ> guarddog is good but it can cut your net off ^-^
[10:11] <nomad111> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[10:11] <nomad111> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[10:11] <gan|y|med> good that i have you... :9
[10:11] <Hobbsee> !op
[10:11] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[10:11] <gan|y|med> :)
[10:11] <Healot> nomad111: paste it to me privately
[10:11] <Healot> oh blimey
[10:11] <Hobbsee> nomad111: dont make me kick you for pasting.  use pastebin
[10:11] <nomad111> sorry
[10:11] <Healot> or pastebin
[10:11] <Healot> cool
[10:11] <josh> hey all
[10:12] <josh> i have just installed kubuntu 6.06 (downloaded yesterday), is there anything i should do first?
[10:13] <Healot> josh: whatever you want to do first
[10:13] <Healot> damn
[10:13] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hrm
[10:13] <defrysk> josh, read http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php
[10:13] <josh> k
[10:15] <Child4Christ> should i upgrade to Kubuntu 6.06 release? atm im using beta 2
[10:15] <josh> can i get different skins for the kde menu?
[10:15] <CaptainMorgan_> opening the home folder, and choosing View/View Mode/(any view) then closing out the window and re-opening.. how do I get the view to save?
[10:15] <CaptainMorgan_> as it doesn't
[10:15] <josh> me first
[10:16] <josh> lol
[10:16] <Child4Christ> kde look :)
[10:16] <josh> ???
[10:16] <Child4Christ> kdelook.org if i remember right
[10:16] <josh> ohhhhh
[10:16] <josh> thanx
[10:16] <Child4Christ> called themes, can download them from there ^-^
[10:16] <gan|y|med> you have to save the profile
[10:16] <josh> thanx
[10:18] <josh> how do i install firefox 5.10?
[10:18] <Healot> huh
[10:18] <Healot> Firefox 5.10 hoho
[10:19] <josh> i mean firefox 1.5
[10:19] <josh> lol
[10:19] <Hobbsee> !firefox1.5
[10:19] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:19] <josh> thanx
[10:19] <Healot> in Dapper it is 1.5
[10:20] <josh> huh?
[10:22] <josh> is this method of getting firefox 1.5 recomended?
[10:22] <josh> http://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Chronicles#Install_Firefox_1.5
[10:22] <Hobbsee> josh: follow what ubotu said abouve
[10:22] <josh> ok
[10:23] <Healot> btw that's for Breezy, Dapper's firefox is 1.5
[10:23] <josh> whst do u mean?
[10:23] <josh> what**
[10:23] <cox377_> can anyone tell me the command to restart the kubuntu desktop becauyse it seems to crash when ever i deal with .png
[10:24] <cox377_> lol
[10:24] <Healot> I mean the the punsy for Dapper (the current stable release) is Firefox version 1.5, thus it is recommended to get the firefox from the ubuntu repos
[10:25] <josh> ohhhhh
[10:25] <josh> hoe
[10:25] <CaptainMorgan_> profiles don't save the view Detailed List on exit ;(
[10:25] <josh> how**
[10:25] <josh> cos that guide that ubotu said is to confusing
[10:25] <PyroMithrandir> josh, are you sure you aren't already running 1.5? :)
[10:25] <josh> ummmmm, dont think so, i just installed kubuntu 6.06
[10:26] <josh> like less then an hour ago
[10:26] <Hobbsee> josh: you would
[10:26] <Hobbsee> josh: help, about
[10:26] <Child4Christ> josh: do this, open Konsole sudo -i then enter your usr pass, type in apt-get install firefox, that will install firefox 1.5
[10:26] <OrgulloKmoore> hello
[10:26] <josh> k, thanx
[10:26] <cox377_> anyone knnow hopw to restart the desktop
[10:26] <Hobbsee> oh yeah
[10:26] <Hobbsee> hey OrgulloKmoore
[10:26] <Hobbsee> cox377_: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:26] <OrgulloKmoore> I've just recently installed kubuntu but I can't seem to get my sound to work
[10:27] <OrgulloKmoore> it was working on the live cd, however
[10:27] <Healot> cox377_: that will restart the X server and your desktop manager
[10:27] <josh> so sudo apt-get install firefox ?
[10:27] <OrgulloKmoore> I'm a windows convert
[10:27] <Child4Christ> sudo -i
[10:27] <Child4Christ> then your usr pass then apt-get ^-^
[10:27] <cox377> haha
[10:27] <josh> k
[10:27] <cox377> that restarted everything bar the computer
[10:28] <Healot> OrgulloKmoore: Windows rocks though... the NT family though
[10:28] <OrgulloKmoore> heh
[10:28] <OrgulloKmoore> well I wasn't able to finda an product key so yeah...
[10:28] <Healot> you pirate, hehe
[10:28] <Healot> anyways, OrgulloKmoore: your question?
[10:28] <Child4Christ> you can get Vista Beta 2 for free
[10:29] <Child4Christ> expires 1st of June 07
[10:29] <Healot> yeah
[10:29] <OrgulloKmoore> Healot: umm...I would like some help getting sound, if possible
[10:29] <Healot> mmmkay
[10:29] <Hobbsee> crimsun_: ping?
[10:29] <Healot> did you try running the mixer? OrgulloKmoore
[10:29] <OrgulloKmoore> I did alsamixer
[10:29] <kuzmaster> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710266
[10:29] <OrgulloKmoore> and turned everything up
[10:29] <Healot> kmix -> KDE menu -> Multimedia -> kmixer
[10:29] <kuzmaster> i got an error
[10:30] <Healot> OrgulloKmoore: are you trying to play MP3 files?
[10:30] <kuzmaster> when doing apt -get install firefox
[10:30] <OrgulloKmoore> Healot: I've tried several files, including the "test sound" button
[10:30] <stephenford> whats the -i for?
[10:30] <Child4Christ> you might have to change the sources
[10:30] <OrgulloKmoore> some mp3s, a flash video...
[10:30] <Child4Christ> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:30] <Healot> did you hear the sound in the test sound? OrgulloKmoore
[10:31] <Child4Christ> think -i is for usr, not really sure though :/
[10:31] <kuzmaster> can i install firefox via adept?
[10:31] <kuzmaster> i like adept better
[10:31] <Healot> kuzmaster: no... kidding, yes of course
[10:31] <Child4Christ> might be able to, have a look, prolly under the gnome suit though
[10:31] <OrgulloKmoore> Healot: no...but I heard all sorts of sounds on the live cd
[10:31] <kuzmaster> how then
[10:31] <OrgulloKmoore> Healot: but when I did the HD installation, the sound ceased to work
[10:32] <OrgulloKmoore> holy crap I just heard a sound!!!
[10:32] <OrgulloKmoore> firefox alert just triggered one
[10:32] <Healot> OrgulloKmoore: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"
[10:33] <Healot> try to reconfigure your sound card again...
[10:33] <kuzmaster> how do i install firefor via adept
[10:33] <OrgulloKmoore> ok
[10:33] <Child4Christ> from your K menu Add/Remove Programs then when its runnin select the drop down box (by default its KDE) and select GNOME
[10:33] <kuzmaster> me?
[10:33] <Child4Christ> yup
[10:33] <Healot> try switching both output oss and alsa
[10:33] <kuzmaster> k
[10:34] <kuzmaster> yes
[10:34] <kuzmaster> next
[10:34] <[Evil] [Ernie] > uhg
[10:34] <OrgulloKmoore> Healot: got it, thanks!
[10:34] <[Evil] [Ernie] > how do i shut down again?
[10:34] <Child4Christ> left bar, look in the internet catagories
[10:34] <[Evil] [Ernie] > via terminal
[10:34] <OrgulloKmoore> the test sound thing just worked
[10:34] <emonkeylap> [Evil] [Ernie] , halt
[10:34] <kuzmaster> there is no internet
[10:34] <Child4Christ> lemme have a look
[10:35] <Healot> OrgulloKmoore: btw if you need to play mp3 or other media files just ask
[10:35] <kuzmaster> i have graphics, office, others, system, settings, utilities
[10:35] <Child4Christ> oh ok so firefox isnt in the installer proggy
[10:36] <OrgulloKmoore> ok
[10:36] <nomad111> Healot: that thing u told me to do with source.list didnt fix the problem
[10:36] <Child4Christ> i use apt-get for all my programs :/
[10:36] <nomad111> Healot: ill paste u wat the konsole gives me
[10:36] <kuzmaster> does the source-o-matic thing work with dapper drake?
[10:36] <Child4Christ> whats that?
[10:36] <Healot> nomad111: just tge working lines without the #! mmmaky
[10:36] <kuzmaster> it generates a sources.list thing
[10:36] <Child4Christ> ooooo
[10:37] <Child4Christ> i uncomment (#) all the deb http lines
[10:37] <kuzmaster> its on a ubuntu wiki page
[10:37] <Healot> !easyubuntu
[10:37] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:37] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: should do
[10:37] <kuzmaster> k
[10:38] <kuzmaster> !sources.list
[10:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[10:38] <cox377> does anyone here run azureus?
[10:38] <nomad111> Healot: k i got it thx a lot man
[10:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > cool, fixed the kicker problem
[10:38] <Child4Christ> i use KXDocker ^-^
[10:39] <[Evil] [Ernie] > apparently reset it as well
[10:39] <stephenford> ok i've been meaning to ask you guys
[10:40] <stephenford> i do a lot of 3d work in blender one of the many reasons i'm trying to migrate to linux but the open gl doesnt seam as good
[10:40] <stephenford> the selcetion lines are all broken up and such is there any way to solve this?
[10:41] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hm
[10:41] <[Evil] [Ernie] > no clue ^.>
[10:41] <RawSewage> stephenford, did you install kdf
[10:41] <stephenford> kdf?
[10:42] <RawSewage> Kwikdisk works nice
[10:42] <kuzmaster> in adept, when i go to manage repositories, should all the entries be grayed-out?
[10:42] <RawSewage> theres an icon in my tray
[10:42] <RawSewage> I click it, and I see all the free space on my drives
[10:42] <pd273> !easysource
[10:42] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:42] <RawSewage> !kdf
[10:42] <ubotu> RawSewage: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:42] <kuzmaster> thats excatly what i needed
[10:43] <stephenford> doing it now
[10:43] <ganymed> anybody knows zenwalk?
[10:43] <kuzmaster> and wanted
[10:43] <kuzmaster> thanx pd273
[10:43] <pd273> :)
[10:44] <Child4Christ> hmm *clicks*
[10:44] <noxs> hi all
[10:44] <Child4Christ> looks good that ^-^
[10:44] <nomad111> does any1 kno a program that simulates electric circuits for linux that uses pspice
[10:44] <Child4Christ> hi noxs
[10:45] <nomad111> ie something like orcad capture
[10:48] <cox377> pd273: Hello mate
[10:48] <cox377> got a few questions for yah
[10:48] <cox377> :                  )
[10:51] <kuzmaster> after i update the sources.list, what do i type into terminal?
[10:51] <kuzmaster> to update it or somthing
[10:51] <Child4Christ> apt-get install firefox
[10:51] <Child4Christ> oh, apt-get update
[10:51] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i'm trying to install GTK+ 2.0
[10:51] <kuzmaster> thanx
[10:51] <kuzmaster> thats the one
[10:51] <Child4Christ> ^-^
[10:52] <kuzmaster> i need to do sudo -i, dont i
[10:52] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and when i do ./configure as the install readme says to do
[10:52] <noxs> how to change resolution to 1280x1024?
[10:52] <Child4Christ> yup :)
[10:52] <kuzmaster> k
[10:52] <noxs> i changed the xorg.conf
[10:52] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it says no acceptable c compiler found in $PATH
[10:52] <noxs> but its ignored
[10:52] <noxs> im using kde
[10:52] <cox377> noxs: i tried the same thing but with no job
[10:52] <cox377> i thuink i had some links for it
[10:52] <cox377> 2 secs
[10:52] <noxs> isn t there any resolution changer?
[10:53] <ChefWill_> [Evil] [Ernie] : make sure you have gcc and build-essential packages
[10:53] <Child4Christ> apt-get install gcc and apt-get install g++
[10:53] <cox377> dammit, didnt save the links
[10:53] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm
[10:53] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i just have whatever dapper drake came with :)
[10:54] <Hobbsee> !b-e
[10:54] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[10:54] <stephenford> sooo is there anyway i can get a dvd to play in kubuntu in the uk paid or not?
[10:54] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i've only been using linux for about 24 hours..
[10:54] <Hobbsee> !tell stephenford about dvd
[10:55] <stephenford> cheers
[10:55] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hm
[10:59] <mrmist> why isn't lyx in the standard repositories ? Have I done something wrong ?
[10:59] <Child4Christ> :P
[10:59] <kuzmaster> apt-get update failed
[10:59] <kuzmaster> ill show up
[10:59] <kuzmaster> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710299
[10:59] <kuzmaster> thats my error after using apt-get update
[11:00] <kuzmaster> any ideas?
[11:00] <mrmist> er... seems you can't connect to the net ?
[11:00] <kuzmaster> any?
[11:00] <kuzmaster> well i am
[11:00] <Ashex> you modified your sources list
[11:00] <Child4Christ> looks like either A: urls dont exist or B: your box cant resolve the dns
[11:00] <kuzmaster> yeah
[11:00] <Ashex> that's the problem
[11:01] <Ashex> some of the repositories you added don't exist
[11:01] <Ashex> so it times out on those
[11:01] <kuzmaster> i got the sources.list via....
[11:01] <kuzmaster> !easysource
[11:01] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:01] <Ashex> I don't know easysource
[11:01] <stargater> hi
[11:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > erg.. whenever i try to ./configure something i get an error message that there is no c compiler in my $PATH
[11:01] <Ashex> but I can tell you that some of those repositories don't exist
[11:01] <kuzmaster> k
[11:01] <Ashex> [Evil] [Ernie] : check that you have gcc++ installed
[11:01] <mrmist> guys !? Anyonw know why there isn't a LyX package ??
[11:02] <kuzmaster> hang on
[11:02] <kuzmaster> ill try my old sources.list
[11:02] <Child4Christ> LyX?
[11:02] <mrmist> yeah
[11:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > does gcc++ come with dapper drake? =p
[11:02] <mrmist> wysiwym LaTeX editor
[11:02] <kuzmaster> cos everything was commented on it by defult
[11:02] <Child4Christ> dont think it comes with any compiler
[11:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > otherwise, i don't know how to tell whether or not it's installed
[11:02] <Ashex> [Evil] [Ernie] : make sure you have the dev libraries
[11:02] <Child4Christ> can use emacs :)
[11:02] <Ashex> use adept
[11:03] <Ashex> and apt-cache search
[11:03] <ChefWill_> anyone know how to fix the bright high contrast issue with streaming video?
[11:03] <Ashex> mrmist: you probably need to add multiverse to your repositories
[11:03] <mrmist> hmm
[11:03] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm nope, not there
[11:04] <kuzmaster> can somone give my a copy of their sources.list?
[11:04] <mrmist> I've used apt-cache search... it isn't there
[11:04] <ChefWill_> kuzmaster:
[11:04] <ChefWill_> !sources
[11:04] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:04] <kuzmaster> yeah.....
[11:04] <kuzmaster> but i stuffed mine up
[11:04] <ChefWill_> read....
[11:04] <kuzmaster> i need a new one
[11:04] <ChefWill_> READ
[11:04] <kuzmaster> k
[11:05] <Ashex> kuzmaster: what ChefWill_ said, read that entire announce
[11:05] <kuzmaster> ok
[11:05] <kane_> has anyone used pppoe on kubuntu ?
[11:08] <kuzmaster> this sources.list should be apporiate?
[11:08] <kuzmaster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[11:09] <kuzmaster> should it?
[11:10] <kuzmaster> hmmmmmm?
[11:10] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: yes
[11:10] <kuzmaster> k
[11:10] <riri> i installed french dapper but i can't install java or flash ?
[11:10] <RawSewage> tj9991, does it put you out too much to idle on a channel?
[11:10] <kuzmaster> good
[11:10] <Ashex> looks safe to me
[11:10] <knubbe> anyone who knows why my Xorg takes around 70% of the CPU all the time?
[11:10] <Hobbsee> !tell riri about java
[11:10] <Hobbsee> !tell riri about flash
[11:11] <pd273> kane_: did you check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[11:11] <Child4Christ> why do i keep getting disconnected? :(
[11:11] <Hobbsee> knubbe: check for a bug report on it - i think i've heard people talking about it
[11:11] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: no idea, it just says remote closed connection
[11:11] <Child4Christ> Konversation says "no error" :/
[11:11] <Child4Christ> could be cause im using beta 2
[11:11] <pd273> knubbe: is this problem coming even across reboots
[11:11] <Ashex> Child4Christ: google the disconnect error "Remote closed the connection"
[11:12] <ChefWill_> noone knows about streaming video high constrast/brightness issue?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: beta 2?  of what version?
[11:12] <Ashex> ChefWill_: try ##linux
[11:12] <Child4Christ> Kubuntu 6.06
[11:12] <Child4Christ> im downloading the relase version to install
[11:12] <kuzmaster> in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666, should i uncomment lines 26-29?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: has your connection been totally disconnectin gor something?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: you can just upgrade, easily..
[11:13] <Child4Christ> not that i know of, but xmms keeps pausing on the di stream
[11:13] <kuzmaster> in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666, should i uncomment lines 26-29?
[11:13] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: no
[11:13] <Ashex> kuzmaster: probably not
[11:13] <Child4Christ> upgrade?
[11:13] <Hobbsee> and dont repeat
[11:13] <kuzmaster> ok, thanx
[11:13] <kuzmaster> sorry
[11:13] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:13] <Child4Christ> oh ok, thx ^-^
[11:13] <kuzmaster> im just really impatent
[11:13] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: impatience wont get you help
[11:13] <kuzmaster> lol
[11:13] <Hobbsee> it'll probably make people help you less
[11:14] <riri> hobb :
[11:14] <Ashex> true dat
[11:14] <knubbe> Hobbsee: ok, im searching through ubuntuforums..
[11:14] <kuzmaster> apt-get update after changing my sources.list?
[11:14] <Ashex> it's 2am for me, and people just happen to be asking questions i can help with
[11:14] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: yes
[11:14] <riri> i tried to installed java and flash
[11:14] <knubbe> pd273: what do you mean? if it goes away after doing a reboot? i suppose not, since i just started it up.
[11:14] <kuzmaster> k, thanx
[11:14] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: then sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:14] <riri> from all links in synaptic
[11:14] <mrmist> thanks guys :)
[11:14] <mrmist> I managed :)
[11:14] <riri> universe multiverse
[11:14] <mrmist> cya
[11:15] <riri> but there are fr- before
[11:15] <pd273> knubbe: I was asking if the problem occurs even if you reboot the system
[11:15] <knubbe> Hobbsee: it's really annoying since the mouse hangs for like 0.2 seconds every 2 seconds..
[11:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > meh
[11:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > where do you get the gcc++ compiler anyway?
[11:15] <Ashex> [Evil] [Ernie] : like I said, check apt-cache
[11:15] <riri> and i wonder if they in their repos java and flash ?
[11:15] <Hobbsee> !tell [Evil] [Ernie]  about b-e
[11:15] <pd273> I had a problem in my Breezy, but it went away itself when i did a reboot
[11:15] <Hobbsee> riri: see what ubotu sent you
[11:15] <knubbe> pd273: ok, ill give it a try.
[11:16] <riri> hobb why "au " ?
[11:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > couldn't find package build-essential
[11:16] <riri> don't you know french repos ?
[11:16] <Ashex> [Evil] [Ernie] : then install it
[11:16] <Child4Christ> ok i did that an it came up with 0 upgraded, installed, removed and not upgraded, that mean when i clicked the update icon and it did it for me?
[11:17] <riri> hobb : i notice if i installed from other repos
[11:17] <riri> i will have problem with scim after
[11:18] <kuzmaster> hmmmph
[11:18] <kuzmaster> apt-get update never works
[11:18] <riri> is there any "mixed up " between french and other repos ?
[11:18] <Child4Christ> off to cook somethin to eat, bbiab an thx for the help ^-^
[11:19] <riri> the french irc doesn't work :)
[11:19] <riri> i mean no answer
[11:19] <riri> and if here i can't get answer
[11:19] <riri> well i am not sure i can use any more kubuntu
[11:20] <kuzmaster> im just gonna do a fresh install of kubunt
[11:20] <riri> most of web answers are for ubuntu ?
[11:20] <kuzmaster> hope fully that will fix my problems
[11:20] <riri> good luck
[11:20] <kuzmaster> one more try tho
[11:20] <kuzmaster> and thanx
[11:20] <riri> i fear not...
[11:21] <riri> when i had dapper flight
[11:21] <riri> i get all answers here
[11:21] <Ashex> riri: kubuntu is the kde version of ubuntu
[11:21] <riri> apparently it's not working so good ?
[11:21] <riri> yes i know
[11:21] <Ashex> so most of the articles you'll find on ubuntu will apply to kubuntu
[11:22] <riri> but when i read how to in ubuntu it doesn't work for kubuntu
[11:22] <riri> not true ?
[11:22] <riri> ashex have you use it recently ?
[11:22] <Ashex> used what recently
[11:22] <riri> yesterday i tried to install flash and hava from the how to
[11:23] <riri> the ubuntu doc ?
[11:23] <Ashex> ah
[11:23] <Ashex> did you try with the methods we mentioned?
[11:23] <riri> yes
[11:23] <riri> and no links to get the things install
[11:23] <Ashex> I can't really say then, I haven't gotten around to installing java or flash
[11:23] <riri> so i did it manually
[11:24] <Ashex> you grabbed the dev lib from java's site?
[11:24] <riri> yes i guess
[11:24] <riri> yes
[11:24] <Ashex> hrmm
[11:24] <Ashex> !easyubuntu
[11:24] <riri> but i would prefer the solution they advice
[11:24] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:25] <riri> thanks ubotu
[11:25] <riri> but i am surprised not to find solution here
[11:25] <knubbe> pd273 / Hobbsee : it seems like if its a bug in the kernel. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/30570
[11:25] <riri> before 1 june i was very helped
[11:25] <Ashex> try easyubuntu
[11:25] <pd273> ok
[11:25] <Ashex> you just need to be on at the right times :p
[11:25] <riri> yes i guess
[11:26] <riri> but it's a pity
[11:26] <riri> if an irc depends on the mood or the pleasure of people...
[11:27] <riri> i have change many times distro...
[11:27] <Ashex> it's not that
[11:27] <Ashex> it's about who is on
[11:27] <riri> and i choosed kubuntu because the irc was very quick and good inform
[11:27] <cox377> I have a couple of questions that should be pretty simple to answer to the person who knows if anyone has got a minute
[11:27] <ubuntu> ciao a tutti
[11:27] <Ashex> riri, a lot of the people who know their stuff are sleeping
[11:28] <Ashex> it's 2am for me right now
[11:28] <Hobbsee> riri: about that wiki, for those bits.  define "doesnt work"
[11:28] <Ashex> I'm normally asleep
[11:28] <Hobbsee> !doesntwork
[11:28] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[11:28] <Hobbsee> !tell cox377 about ask
[11:28] <pd273> Hi cox377
[11:28] <riri> hobbsee : i typed what they suggested sudo apt-get install sun-java..
[11:28] <cox377> Hey people
[11:29] <Hobbsee> riri: yep, what'd you get?
[11:29] <RawSewage> tj9991, does it put you out too much to idle on a channel?
[11:29] <cox377> basically, firstly i'm looking to add trash can to desktop haha and i havent worked out how
[11:29] <Hobbsee> !java
[11:29] <pd273> Its 3:00 pm here for me :)
[11:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[11:29] <riri> no apps
[11:29] <cox377> where r yah PD?
[11:29] <pd273> :)
[11:29] <pd273> was busy in a clients place
[11:30] <pd273> became free now
[11:30] <riri> imbrandon used to give me a link for repos
[11:30] <Hobbsee> riri: as in, it found nothing?  did you go and enable multiverse?
[11:30] <Hobbsee> !repos
[11:30] <[Evil] [Ernie] > trying to get build-essential using apt-get
[11:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:30] <Hobbsee> riri: that one ^
[11:30] <riri> yes
[11:30] <pd273> Trash can thing I have read a solution for that some time back
[11:30] <[Evil] [Ernie] > apt-get update returns an error
[11:30] <riri> i have it enable
[11:30] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : did you read what the bot sent you?
[11:30] <pd273> let me see if I can recollect
[11:30] <Hobbsee> riri: mmm okay.
[11:30] <Ashex> Ha
[11:30] <[Evil] [Ernie] > yes
[11:30] <Ashex> wicked
[11:30] <cox377> :           )
[11:31] <Ashex> I just installed my nvidia drivers with easyubuntu
[11:31] <Ashex> and it worked!
[11:31] <riri> that 's how i saw all repos are with fr- before
[11:31] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : please pastebin "the error"  - gave "an error" is useless.
[11:31] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it said it couldn't find the build-essentian
[11:31] <[Evil] [Ernie] > essential*
[11:31] <Ashex> [Evil] [Ernie] : Like I said, install the fucker
[11:32] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[11:32] <riri> i will look for build essential too
[11:32] <Ashex> if it can't find something, then find it!
[11:32] <Hobbsee> Ashex: language
[11:32] <riri> i need it for vmare
[11:32] <Ashex> sorry Hobbsee
[11:32] <Hobbsee> !+b-e
[11:32] <riri> vmware
[11:32] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[11:32] <katakombi> i have a question about acpi: Is throttling saving any battery live at all?
[11:32] <Hobbsee> for all of you looking for build essentials, use that link, and do *not* come back asking for help again.
[11:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > how do i install something i dont have =p
[11:32] <Ashex> just getting irritated by people not listening
[11:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > rgr
[11:32] <[Nige] > hi all
[11:32] <Hobbsee> katakombi: possibly
[11:32] <Hobbsee> Ashex: yeah, tell me about it
[11:33] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and the error.  see the topic for the link to pastebin.
[11:33] <katakombi> Hobbsee: i can feel that the system slows down but the power consumption does not decrease
[11:33] <Hobbsee> katakombi: i dont know, sorry...
[11:33] <Ashex> !tell [Evil] [Ernie]  about apt
[11:33] <[Nige] > anyone having problems with ati and big desktop?
[11:33] <katakombi> !acpi
[11:33] <riri> apparently apt-get found build essential
[11:33] <ubotu> katakombi: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:34] <riri> so why not flash and java ?
[11:34] <[Evil] [Ernie] > the error was just that it couldnt find the build essential, as far as installing it i have no idea how to go about that
[11:34] <Hobbsee> riri: because they're under different names, and in multiverse
[11:34] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i'll try the links the bot just forwarded though
[11:34] <cox377> pd273: you manage to find anything?
[11:35] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and the pastebin
[11:35] <pd273> looking
[11:35] <Hobbsee> if it couldnt find build essential, then either it's typed in wrong, or the repos are wrong.
[11:35] <riri> hobbsee : what name ? sun-java*
[11:35] <Hobbsee> riri: you on dapper?
[11:35] <riri> yes
[11:35] <defrysk> build-essential
[11:36] <riri> buid... is installed now
[11:36] <Hobbsee> riri: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list as well please - that should be there
[11:36] <riri> build-essential
[11:36] <cox377> cheers man
[11:36] <Hobbsee> the sun-java-bin
[11:36] <cox377> something that should be so simple
[11:36] <defrysk> sun-java5-jre
[11:37] <riri> ok
[11:37] <mindspit> ogofilter Vs Spammassasin : witch one to use ????
[11:37] <mindspit> Bogofilter Vs Spammassasin : witch one to use ????
[11:37] <ubuntu> ciao
[11:37] <defrysk> !it
[11:37] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:38] <ubuntu> a ok grazie
[11:38] <defrysk> ;)
[11:38] <pd273> cox377: could not find till now, guess I forgot
[11:38] <cox377> lol
[11:38] <pd273> the trash is there in the task bar
[11:38] <pd273> may be thats why its ignored
[11:38] <cox377> never mind dude.. i very much appreicate you taking the time to look
[11:38] <pd273> beside task bar
[11:38] <ubuntu> I try speak english
[11:38] <pd273> hehe
[11:39] <ubuntu> Can you help me?
[11:39] <ubuntu> lol
[11:39] <pd273> finding out stuff is fun
[11:39] <cox377> lol
[11:39] <ubuntu> stuff what means?
[11:39] <defrysk> ubuntu, cant help you with speaking english, sorry
[11:39] <cox377> does anyone have any experience with exporting an address book from outlook E to thunderbird
[11:40] <riri> hobbsee :http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710352
[11:40] <cox377> but when imported into TB it sees the names as nicknames and therefore doesnnt display them in the list until you click on that contact
[11:40] <cox377> not directly kubuntu related but...
[11:41] <riri> hobbsee did you get my pastebin ?
[11:41] <Hobbsee> riri: yes, i thought so.  add " multiverse" to the end of universe on line 16
[11:41] <Hobbsee> yeah, i just cant type that fast - fingers are cold :P
[11:41] <riri> ok
[11:41] <riri> lol
[11:41] <riri> sorry
[11:42] <riri> where are you ? in northen pole ?
[11:42] <Hobbsee> riri: backports multiverse is different to normal multiverse.  it's really silly, the way it's done
[11:42] <Hobbsee> no, australia
[11:42] <ubuntu> hi
[11:42] <[Evil] [Ernie] > oh, i see
[11:42] <pd273> nice to see a user ubuntu here
[11:43] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i need to edit etc/apt/sources.list
[11:43] <Hobbsee> riri: once you've done that, you'll find that you can follow the wiki for flash and java just fine :)  make sure you scrol down to the update alternatives part of java
[11:43] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:43] <Child4Christ> . /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[11:43] <Child4Christ> <-- nano fan ;P~~
[11:44] <[Evil] [Ernie] > =p
[11:44] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: same here, but...
[11:44] <defrysk> nano -w blablah
[11:44] <riri> hobbsee thanks
[11:44] <ubuntu> Hi guy
[11:44] <riri> do you know the guitarist patrick obson ?
[11:44] <riri> from au too...
[11:44] <Hobbsee> riri: not a problem.  it's amazing what happens when a person gives us all the info we need, rather than just "it doesnt work" or whatever :)
[11:44] <riri> so cold there ?
[11:45] <Hobbsee> riri: and actually does what we ask of them
[11:45] <Hobbsee> well,  i'm cold - it might not actually be that cold outside
[11:45] <riri> well... english is not my mother language...
[11:45] <Mitja> Disregarding that ISP could filter/block port 80, are there any special restrictions regarding opening it?
[11:45] <Hobbsee> riri: that's not a problem :)
[11:45] <riri> thanks anyway :)
[11:45] <Hobbsee> riri: but if someone asks for a pastebin of your /etc/apt/sources.list - there's probably a reason, and they cant do anything else without it.
[11:46] <Hobbsee> that kind of thing was what i was meaning
[11:46] <defrysk> coffee
[11:46] <Child4Christ> is the sources list exploitable?
[11:46] <riri> the problem is I am newbie with kubuntu and i didn't know what pastebin meant
[11:46] <Hobbsee> riri: yeah - that's where reading the topic comes in handy
[11:46] <Hobbsee> there's also !pastebin
[11:47] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[11:47] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:47] <Child4Christ> brb pizza should be dine ^-^
[11:47] <riri> yes i know i have been kick off
[11:47] <riri> why so complicated ?
[11:47] <riri> why not a bit slower and taking time to discuss ?
[11:48] <[Evil] [Ernie] > alright, my pastebin should be sent
[11:48] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : can you give us a link to your paste in the pastebin please?
[11:48] <riri> i am retired ... and don't want to carry on this mad "job" capitalism bullshit in free open source
[11:49] <[Evil] [Ernie] > oh
[11:49] <[Evil] [Ernie] > http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710357
[11:49] <Hobbsee> riri: in all honestly, i'm slightly annoyed, and probably shouldnt be around at the moment - but no one else is here helping.
[11:49] <riri> time to live time to love time to have good contact...
[11:49] <Hobbsee> riri: also, the wiki explains a lot of this
[11:49] <louie_> I have problem with MPlayer, I tried to resize movie screen but it is not possible, I can  use fullscreen but I cannot modify movie dimension
[11:50] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : do you know what a # in front of a line does?
[11:50] <riri> hobbsee you did it :)
[11:50] <Hobbsee> riri: see, here's trying to explain.
[11:50] <Hobbsee> !repos
[11:50] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:50] <riri> yesterday i spend all day with wiki and all
[11:50] <[Evil] [Ernie] > # is a comment
[11:50] <Hobbsee> what, the installer did that?  weird.
[11:50] <riri> i format kubuntu after being fedup
[11:51] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : you got it
[11:51] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i was unaware i even had to modify that file
[11:51] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : replace what's in there currently with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[11:51] <riri> so if you won't have help me... how can one knows there is a mistake line 16 ?
[11:51] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ah, this OS is so confusing
[11:51] <[Evil] [Ernie] > okay
[11:51] <Hobbsee> riri: because a lot of those packages (in fact, all, ithink) need multiverse.  which is not there by default.
[11:52] <Hobbsee> riri: the other solution is to tell you to do what i just told [Evil] [Ernie]  to do - they both do the same thing...
[11:52] <riri> ok... don't loose your time... thanks ... i guess the time is n't the best for english speaking people
[11:52] <riri> yes
[11:52] <Hobbsee> !java
[11:52] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[11:52] <riri> but i need contact.. :)
[11:53] <Hobbsee> riri: true :)
[11:53] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i could simply overwrite the current text in sources.list correct?
[11:53] <defrysk> riri, the the french kubuntu channel
[11:53] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : yep
[11:53] <defrysk> try*
[11:53] <Hobbsee> riri: hmmm...it's not there.  dodgy.  well, nto there explicitly
[11:53] <riri> hobbsee... if you are young you will see how much important is to "loose" few minutes" chating..lol
[11:54] <riri> fr channel : no answer
[11:54] <Hobbsee> riri: i dont understand...
[11:54] <defrysk> riri, helping peole out requires focus and with loose chatting you loose focus
[11:54] <_rince_> mrgn
[11:54] <riri> no i don't agree with this
[11:55] <defrysk> riri, so if you wich to chat go to some off-topc channel
[11:55] <riri> i have been teaching all kind of people
[11:55] <defrysk> riri, you dont have to agree
[11:55] <riri> defrysk
[11:55] <defrysk> riri, you enjoy babbling find a babble room
[11:56] <riri> don't be nasty def...
[11:56] <riri> the kind of people like you
[11:56] <riri> is not a good advert for kubuntu
[11:56] <[Evil] [Ernie] > crap
[11:56] <[Evil] [Ernie] > my support just disconnected
[11:56] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[11:57] <defrysk> [Evil] [Ernie] , where wre you working on ?
[11:57] <RawSewage> tj9991, does it put you out too much to idle on a channel
[11:57] <riri> def : i don't like babbling
[11:57] <[Evil] [Ernie] > more build-essential stuff
[11:57] <[Evil] [Ernie] > apparently im not the only one that has had that problem =p
[11:57] <nico8481> hi
[11:57] <riri> i try to see if this irc is just good to help people
[11:57] <tj9991> i average 50-60 now almost always now
[11:57] <defrysk> [Evil] [Ernie] , did you get the multi - and universe repos in ?
[11:58] <RawSewage> For Kubuntu bootup time?
[11:58] <nico8481> question: any idea how often does the adept notifier check for updates?
[11:58] <tj9991> 45-50 if i get lucky on a OLL skip
[11:58] <[Evil] [Ernie] > yes
[11:58] <defrysk> update the repos after ?
[11:58] <defrysk> then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:58] <[Evil] [Ernie] > updating now
[11:59] <defrysk> good :)
[11:59] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i do get alot of strange errors while using the konsole though
[11:59] <[Evil] [Ernie] > let me type one
[11:59] <defrysk> ok
[11:59] <[Evil] [Ernie] > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitiated input device 168
[12:00] <[Evil] [Ernie] > Major opcode: 145
[12:00] <[Evil] [Ernie] > Minor opcode: 3
[12:00] <defrysk> [Evil] [Ernie] , with sudo apt-get update that happens ?
[12:00] <[Evil] [Ernie] > yes
[12:00] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it still updated
[12:00] <defrysk> ok
[12:00] <defrysk> then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > excellent
[12:01] <dmoyne> hello everybody ! ; I have a ridiculous question ; is it possible to load through apt-get the source of a sotftware for recompilation for example as it was possible with Mandrake ?
[12:02] <defrysk> dmoyne yes
[12:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > curious.... if i just say "kdesu" in a terminal that error message will print
[12:02] <defrysk> dmoyne, sudo apt-get source -b package
[12:02] <dmoyne> how do you do to load a source ?
[12:03] <defrysk> dmoyne, sudo apt-get source -d
[12:03] <defrysk> dmoyne, sudo apt-get source -d <package>
[12:03] <dmoyne> and then where is the source stored ?
[12:03] <defrysk> dmoyne, better to use fakeroot insted of sude then
[12:03] <dmoyne> what is kakeroot
[12:03] <defrysk> if you use fakeroot it wil be in the folder where you ordered the command
[12:04] <dmoyne> fakeroot...
[12:04] <defrysk> dmoyne, it is used to fake root
[12:04] <dmoyne> thanks and using synaptic is it possible ?
[12:05] <defrysk> no
[12:05] <defrysk> afaIk not
[12:05] <defrysk> not sure tho
[12:05] <dmoyne> ah therefore you cannot easily select a software from a list
[12:06] <defrysk> dmoyne, apt-cache search <package>
[12:06] <defrysk> and you get a list
[12:06] <Ashex> dmoyne, if you want to be able to browse packages, use adept
[12:07] <dmoyne> ok my problem is that I am not really keen to use the konsole to do so as you have to memorize too many things
[12:07] <defrysk> apt-get build dep <package> gives you the needed deps for the package so you can compile
[12:07] <dmoyne> ok let use summerize
[12:07] <defrysk> dmoyne, for compiling the cli is essential
[12:07] <dmoyne> what is the cli
[12:08] <defrysk> the Command Line Interface
[12:08] <dmoyne> of course this I known but this is basically all I use in command mode ! let us summerize :
[12:09] <dmoyne> (1) I create a folder in my domaine
[12:09] <dmoyne> (2) how to use fakeroot then to apt-get the source in that folder ?
[12:09] <defrysk> use fakeroot instead of sudo
[12:10] <defrysk> thats it
[12:10] <defrysk> fakeroot has to be installed
[12:10] <defrysk> also build-essential has to be installed for compiling
[12:10] <dmoyne> ah then very likely kakeroot to load from synaptic first
[12:10] <josh> hey all
[12:10] <Ashex> Before I go to sleep
[12:10] <defrysk> dmoyne, install fakeroot and build-essential
[12:10] <Ashex> any of you guys have a clue what this means? http://pastebin.com/710396
[12:11] <Ashex> it occurs whenever I apt-get install/upgrade
[12:11] <dmoyne> ok I do wait
[12:11] <Ashex> it hasn't caused me any actual problems, it just shows up whenever I do
[12:11] <kuzmaster> when ever i go apt-get update, i get this
[12:11] <kuzmaster> hang on
[12:11] <kuzmaster> getting link
[12:11] <kuzmaster> i get this http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710398
[12:11] <defrysk> kuzmaster, maybe the cd line in sources.list is not commented ?
[12:12] <defrysk> or Ashex that is
[12:12] <kuzmaster> ill put my sources.list in pastbin
[12:12] <defrysk> kuzmaster, for you its something else
[12:12] <Ashex> I'll check my sources
[12:12] <Ashex> as soon as I remember where they are located
[12:12] <defrysk> close synatic or whatever apt -app before doing anything on the cli
[12:13] <kuzmaster> heres my sources.list http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710400
[12:13] <defrysk> Ashex, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:14] <Ashex> yeah, i did a locate to find them
[12:14] <defrysk> close synapic or whatever apt -app before doing anything on the cli
[12:14] <kuzmaster> it was
[12:14] <dmoyne> ok I have installed fakeroot and build-essential now I will create a folder and "fakeroot apt-get source -d my_source"
[12:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > linux is a nightmare >.<
[12:14] <Ashex> Not really
[12:14] <Ashex> you're just doing things the hard way
[12:14] <Ashex> :p
[12:14] <blush> hi, i'm trying to use ndiswrapper in order to use the wifi driver of my laptop (compaq presario m2358ea and broadcom driver). It's installed fine, but there is no way to use iwlist elan0/eth1 scan: No one of these network devices "support scanning". What am i doing bad?
[12:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > its taking me 3 hours to install firefox
[12:15] <kuzmaster> its a challange
[12:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[12:15] <Ashex> 3 hours?
[12:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well
[12:15] <Ashex> it took me about a minute
[12:15] <Ashex> :P
[12:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i know =p its just me
[12:15] <kuzmaster> my adept/sources.list wont work
[12:15] <Ashex> use adept when you need to install things
[12:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ive been a windows user for the past 7 years
[12:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > this is going to take some time
[12:15] <Ashex> Ha
[12:15] <Ashex> I've been using linux for less then 4 months
[12:16] <defrysk> kuzmaster, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:16] <Ashex> I've been using kubuntu for about 4 weeks now
[12:16] <kuzmaster> the main thing that i love about linux (kubuntu 6.06) is that the main programs are there
[12:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ick
[12:16] <kuzmaster> and all driveers are
[12:16] <RawSewage> [Evil] [Ernie] , why did you switch
[12:16] <Ashex> You just need to know your way around linux
[12:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well... because windows is basically
[12:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > not how you want it
[12:16] <RawSewage> Did it have anything to do with the 'You have 6 days to Activate" message
[12:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it's how microsoft wants it
[12:17] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and if they expect me to pay upwards of $200 per copy (since you need one for EACH of your computers)
[12:17] <Ashex> I did a crash course on linux, 7 distro's in 2 weeks, and broke linux in everyway I could think of
[12:17] <[Evil] [Ernie] > then its going to be how I want it
[12:17] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[12:17] <RawSewage> Yes, Windows today is what AOL was to the internet
[12:17] <RawSewage> It's for people that don't know anything about computers and need to be spoonfed
[12:17] <Ashex> Heh
[12:17] <RawSewage> oops
[12:17] <RawSewage> Wrong channel
[12:17] <Ashex> whenever I boot into Windows, I just get angry
[12:17] <dmoyne> defrysk: I have done as said where is buil-essential involved
[12:17] <[Evil] [Ernie] > windows is aggravating
[12:18] <[Evil] [Ernie] > especially my documents
[12:18] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i hate my documents
[12:18] <Scorpmoon> blabla(windows bashing)blabla
[12:18] <[Evil] [Ernie] > my pictures, my music, all this useless clutter
[12:18] <defrysk> dmoyne, what do you want to compile ?
[12:18] <Scorpmoon> make linux better and stop bashing :)
[12:18] <[Evil] [Ernie] > etc
[12:18] <[Evil] [Ernie] > yessir
[12:18] <Ashex> Kubuntu runs smoothly for me, but whenever i boot into windows it's sluggish, it's really frustrating >:(
[12:18] <dmoyne> ok I want to recompile festival
[12:18] <Scorpmoon> i insert kubuntu CD and it just stops
[12:18] <kuzmaster> when i type sudo dpkg --configure -a, what should happen?
[12:18] <kane_> [Evil] [Ernie] : i belive you are allowed to install copies of XP on utmost 3 home machines
[12:18] <Scorpmoon> is that better
[12:19] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm
[12:19] <kane_> [Evil] [Ernie] : with a single license
[12:19] <Ashex> anyone feel like taking a look at my sources real quick? my repositories need some tweaking
[12:19] <Child4Christ> your not allowed to
[12:19] <kuzmaster> when i type sudo dpkg --configure -a, what should happen?
[12:19] <Child4Christ> have to buy a licence for additional computers
[12:19] <[Evil] [Ernie] > kane_
[12:19] <[Evil] [Ernie] > when you call to verify your windows and activate it
[12:19] <kane_> Child4Christ: the last time i read the EULA, it said differently
[12:19] <defrysk> dmoyne, why do you want to recompile it ? its in the repos
[12:19] <Child4Christ> people read them? O.O
[12:19] <[Evil] [Ernie] > they give you problems if the cd key is used on more than one computer
[12:20] <RawSewage> tj9991, you should instal kdf and run Kwikdisk.  Its an icon your tray, and show you how much space you have on your drives
[12:20] <Ashex> that's why you build all your boxes with the same hardware
[12:20] <kane_> [Evil] [Ernie] : ive never called them ;)
[12:20] <tj9991> maybe later
[12:20] <Child4Christ> last time i heard you had to pay extra to use it on another box :/
[12:20] <Ashex> and install on one then clone the drive!
[12:20] <dmoyne> because this is to recompile it with Mbrola French voices
[12:20] <[Evil] [Ernie] > *shrug*
[12:20] <kane_> [Evil] [Ernie] : maybe because ive never had a legal copy of windows ...
[12:20] <tj9991> im going to try to get a speedsolve soon
[12:20] <kane_> [Evil] [Ernie] : but anyway ... ive read the EULA
[12:20] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[12:20] <tj9991> ill break the 40 second barrier some day
[12:20] <kuzmaster> ive tried sudo dpkg --configure -a, but adept still wont work
[12:21] <[Evil] [Ernie] > k
[12:21] <RawSewage> tj9991, Idle in Boringville until we can reg it
[12:21] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well i do have one legal copy
[12:21] <kuzmaster> and ive dont apt-get update
[12:21] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and they dont want it on my other computers
[12:21] <defrysk> dmoyne, now sudo apt-get build dep festival
[12:21] <[Evil] [Ernie] > feel kind of burned about that one :P fetchers
[12:21] <Ashex> kuzmaster: apt-get check?
[12:21] <kuzmaster> k
[12:21] <defrysk> dmoyne, to get the needed dependencies to compile
[12:21] <kuzmaster> and apt-get update says the same massage as b4
[12:21] <[Evil] [Ernie] > !tell me about adept
[12:22] <kuzmaster> !adept
[12:22] <ubotu> methinks adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:22] <dmoyne> defrysk: you mean fakeroot
[12:22] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ubotu is pretty sexy ;)
[12:22] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [Evil] [Ernie] 
[12:22] <[Evil] [Ernie] > err
[12:22] <defrysk> dmoyne, no that for later
[12:23] <admin_> ima li bulgari v tozi kanal?
[12:23] <[Evil] [Ernie] > oh, nifty
[12:23] <cox377> kane_ where did you hear about that with the M$ licences?
[12:23] <[Evil] [Ernie] > so i dont have to mess around with compiling and all that terminal stuff to install software?
[12:23] <cox377> kane_: where did you hear about that with the M$ licences?
[12:23] <[Evil] [Ernie] > adept does it?
[12:23] <dmoyne> I am lost : I started to fakeroot the source ; why not sudo now ?sudo
[12:23] <defrysk> dmoyne, if you do not listen to me neveri=mind then
[12:24] <[Evil] [Ernie] > cox377: he said he read the EULA even though hes never owned a legitimate copy
[12:24] <defrysk> ask someone else then
[12:24] <dmoyne> I will of course but this to understand
[12:24] <kuzmaster> apt-get update just stays stuck on 0%
[12:24] <cox377> Sorry evil
[12:24] <kuzmaster> and adept still dosnt work
[12:24] <kuzmaster> after doin apt-get check
[12:24] <defrysk> apt-get build dep is installing packages you need this requires sudo
[12:24] <kuzmaster> me?
[12:25] <kuzmaster> defrysk, me?
[12:25] <defrysk> kuzmaster, no not you
[12:25] <kuzmaster> k
[12:25] <xst> My firefox freezes VERY often after upgrading to dapper. And often (but not always) when I switch desktop. Anyone else with that problem?
[12:26] <RawSewage> No, becaues I use Konqueror
[12:26] <kuzmaster> and ive had the same problems last time i installed kubuntu 6.06
[12:26] <dmoyne> I have a problem "sudo apt-get build dep festival" returns "E: L'opration build n'est pas valable" meaning buil not valid
[12:26] <RawSewage> Konqueror is a very underrated browser
[12:26] <kuzmaster> i re-installed becuase of that problem
[12:26] <kuzmaster> and im getting the same errors as last time
[12:26] <kuzmaster> why does it hate me?
[12:26] <cox377> does anyone know if there is anyway to change a system tray icon?? for example the blue box of this IRC chat?
[12:26] <defrysk> dmoyne, you have the souce repos uncommented and also universe and multivere ?
[12:27] <RawSewage> xst, but what do you mean by freezes
[12:27] <defrysk> source repos*
[12:27] <kuzmaster> can somone please give me their sources.list so i know that my installation is fucked?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> !repos
[12:27] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:27] <kuzmaster> and sorry for the launguage?
[12:27] <kuzmaster> NO
[12:27] <imbrandon> !language
[12:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:27] <kuzmaster> ive tried that and it dosnt work
[12:28] <kane_> Hobbsee: you're doing a pretty great job!!
[12:28] <kuzmaster> yeah, i said sorry
[12:28] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: they do work.
[12:28] <Ashex> kuzmaster: did you try a apt-get check?
[12:28] <xst> RawSewage: The window content is not updated and firefox has to be manually terminated in order to close it. E.g. when switching desktops, the old desktop content is shown in the firefox windows.
[12:28] <kuzmaster> not for me
[12:28] <defrysk> Hobbsee, kuzmaster is "locked"
[12:28] <kuzmaster> ill try it again
[12:28] <Hobbsee> mth`MAW: please get rid of that away message
[12:28] <Hobbsee> defrysk: locked?
[12:28] <kuzmaster> wat, im locked?
[12:28] <Ashex> I had this problem not long ago
[12:28] <kuzmaster> wat dose that mean?
[12:28] <Ashex> it was due to a broken package
[12:28] <Hobbsee> sud dpkg-configure -a
[12:29] <Hobbsee> sudo dpkg-configure -a
[12:29] <defrysk> Hobbsee, already told him
[12:29] <Hobbsee> might be reconfigure
[12:29] <imbrandon> ps ax|grep dpkg
[12:29] <imbrandon> kill -9 <pid>
[12:29] <imbrandon> sudo kill -9 <pid>
[12:29] <Ashex> kuzmaster: have you used automatix recently?
[12:30] <kuzmaster> nope
[12:30] <xst> I wan't to file a bug report on the firefox freezes but for that I would like some stacktrace stuff or similar. How do I produce relevant debugging output for the bug report?
[12:30] <ChefWill_> anyone use xmms-kde ?
[12:30] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: open a konsole and type "ps ax|grep dpkg" tell me what you see
[12:30] <kuzmaster> ok
[12:30] <kuzmaster> hang on
[12:30] <kuzmaster> do i need to be root?
[12:30] <imbrandon> no
[12:30] <kuzmaster> k
[12:30] <Hobbsee> xst: gdb programname
[12:31] <kuzmaster> i get this...
[12:31] <kuzmaster>  6573 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep dpkg
[12:31] <defrysk> kuzmaster, you have a seperate root account ?
[12:31] <kuzmaster> nope
[12:31] <defrysk> ok
[12:31] <kuzmaster> i just installed
[12:31] <imbrandon> ok kuzmaster now type ....
[12:31] <defrysk> kuzmaster, was just curious
[12:31] <kuzmaster> type wat?
[12:32] <Ashex> sudo kill -9 6573
[12:32] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: "sudo updatedb & && sudo locate dpkg.lock"
[12:32] <imbrandon> Ashex: no
[12:32] <defrysk> dmoyne, how is it going ?
[12:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > this may be a stupid question
[12:32] <imbrandon> Ashex: thats just his grep
[12:32] <dmoyne> let me check !
[12:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i selected stuff to install in adept manager
[12:32] <xst> Hobbsee: thanks
[12:32] <Ashex> Oh, right
[12:32] <kuzmaster> i get sudo updatedb & && sudo locate dpkg.lock
[12:32] <Ashex> I blame the time of night
[12:32] <kuzmaster> sorry
[12:32] <kuzmaster> i get bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'
[12:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > what next?
[12:33] <imbrandon> ok just type "sudo updatedb &"
[12:33] <dmoyne> I have added multiverse but no progress maybe If you check my sources.list can I send to you ?
[12:33] <kuzmaster> k
[12:33] <kuzmaster> [1]  6574
[12:33] <kuzmaster> thats what i got
[12:33] <kuzmaster> and what is all this for?
[12:33] <imbrandon> ok
[12:33] <defrysk> dmoyne, I'll provide you with a link explaining checkinstall , might be usefull for you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356
[12:33] <imbrandon> its updateing locate
[12:33] <kuzmaster> ok........
[12:33] <imbrandon> hit enter till you see something else
[12:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi guys, can i ask you if you know way to watch the Soccer World cup in streaming??
[12:34] <kuzmaster> and that is?
[12:34] <dmoyne> ok I read
[12:34] <Ashex> so, I'm guessing nobody really knows what may cause this to show up during apt-get install? http://pastebin.com/710396
[12:34] <imbrandon> locate is a program
[12:34] <Child4Christ> just wondering, why is it only BSD uses my sound card right? i have an Avance Logic one that uses the ALS4000 driver, everytime its stopped being used system sounds keep repeating for a bit and xmms for one keeps sayin my sound card isnt configged right but after a few tries it plays again, anyone know why?
[12:34] <kuzmaster> [1] +  Done                    sudo updatedb
[12:34] <imbrandon> ok kuzmaster now type ...
[12:34] <imbrandon> sudo locate lock|grep dpkg
[12:34] <defrysk> dmoyne, tha packages you make with checkinstall are for personal use only
[12:35] <dmoyne> ok I will follow the procedure !
[12:35] <defrysk> dmoyne, the part about sources.list can be skipped in that link
[12:35] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, results http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710428
[12:35] <defrysk> dmoyne, ?
[12:35] <dmoyne> yes !
[12:35] <defrysk> dmoyne, the part about sources.list can be skipped in that link
[12:35] <defrysk> got that ?
[12:35] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: ok "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[12:36] <dmoyne> yes but I sill have to check that I have properly modified my file as you suggested
[12:36] <kuzmaster> nothing
[12:36] <defrysk> dmoyne, yes
[12:36] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: now try "sudo apt-get update"
[12:37] <dmoyne> I have to install checkinstall as well : being done
[12:37] <defrysk> dmoyne,  good :)
[12:37] <kuzmaster> this is what i got last time i did that http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710423
[12:37] <imbrandon> just now ?
[12:38] <kuzmaster> no, last time
[12:38] <kuzmaster> but this installation
[12:38] <Ashex> well, it's almost 4am
[12:38] <kuzmaster> i also got that last installation
[12:38] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: no do it again
[12:38] <kuzmaster> i am
[12:38] <Ashex> and since I don't have any problems that need to be answered soon
[12:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[12:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > actually i dont see the commit button in adept
[12:38] <Ashex> and everyone here has way more experience with kubuntu then i do
[12:38] <Ashex> I'm gong to call it a night
[12:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > only "preview" where "commit" should be
[12:38] <Ashex> [Evil] [Ernie] : click apply
[12:39] <Ashex> or something like that
[12:39] <[Evil] [Ernie] > apply is grayed out
[12:39] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, the results are the same so far
[12:39] <[Evil] [Ernie] > as is fetch updates
[12:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi guys, can i ask you if you know way to watch the Soccer World cup in streaming??
[12:39] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: change to a diff mirror
[12:39] <imbrandon> if you are timing out
[12:39] <Ashex> did you give it the password?
[12:39] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ...!
[12:39] <prxq> Tallia1Kubuntu: I bet you can find payperview streams with the help of google.
[12:40] <[Evil] [Ernie] > *smack head*
[12:40] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i think when i ran it from console i didnt use sudo!
[12:41] <Ashex> HA
[12:41] <Ashex> it should be in the kde start menu too
[12:41] <dmoyne> defrysk: stupid question : when you add multiverse and universe can you keep restricted !!!
[12:41] <imbrandon> yes
[12:41] <[Evil] [Ernie] > just looked again and didnt see it in the start menu
[12:41] <imbrandon> dmoyne: yes
[12:41] <defrysk> dmoyne, yes
[12:41] <Ashex> it should be under system
[12:41] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ah
[12:42] <defrysk> dmoyne, when added mage sure to apt-get update
[12:42] <defrysk> sudo apt-get update
[12:42] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i think im just going blind
[12:42] <dmoyne> ah I am nut
[12:42] <[Evil] [Ernie] > found it though
[12:42] <defrysk> dmoyne, when done all that sudo apt-get build dep festival
[12:43] <dmoyne> ok I will do
[12:44] <Ashex> well, I'm going to bed
[12:44] <Ashex> night guys
[12:44] <[Evil] [Ernie] > gnite
[12:44] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thanks for all your help
[12:44] <dmoyne> defrysk: still the same error message !
[12:44] <Ashex> no problem
[12:44] <kuzmaster> imbrandow, pm
[12:45] <defrysk> imbrandon, is it build-dep or build dep ?
[12:45] <imbrandon> build-dep
[12:45] <defrysk> dmoyne, sorry its build-dep
[12:45] <defrysk> thanks imbrandon
[12:45] <imbrandon> np
[12:46] <imbrandon> i'm off to sleep
[12:46] <imbrandon> gnight all
[12:46] <defrysk> night :0
[12:46] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, heres what i get after apt-get update
[12:46] <kuzmaster> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710442
[12:46] <imbrandon> *looks*
[12:46] <dmoyne> do not feel sorry you are still my Guru ; I am presently build-deping
[12:46] <defrysk> dmoyne, you have a source for festival downloaded ?
[12:47] <dmoyne> defrysk: done yes
[12:47] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: your internet connection is timing out to the au. servers might try a diffrent one by editing sources.list
[12:47] <kuzmaster> can someone please just give me there sources.list
[12:47] <kuzmaster> ok
[12:47] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: here is mine ......
[12:47] <defrysk> dmoyne, unpack the source
[12:47] <kuzmaster> wat do i change the country code to?
[12:47] <kuzmaster> and thanks
[12:47] <Doat> i want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu so i installed kubuntu-desktop package but the desktop still looks the same as gnome.. is this really kde?
[12:47] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/sources.list
[12:47] <kuzmaster> thanks
[12:48] <imbrandon> ^^ thats the usa servers btw
[12:48] <RawSewage> No, KDE doesnt look like Gnome
[12:48] <dmoyne> so I have 3 files a diif.gz a dsc and az tar.gz
[12:48] <kuzmaster> k
[12:48] <defrysk> kuzmaster, I usually just remove the countrycode
[12:48] <imbrandon> RawSewage: my kde looks like windows ;)
[12:48] <Doat> RawSewage, then what should i do?
[12:48] <RawSewage> imbrandon, I know
[12:48] <dmoyne> I will have to upgrade !
[12:48] <DarkWizzard> hey all :)
[12:48] <RawSewage> imbrandon, I think I saw a screenshot of it
[12:49] <DarkWizzard> have a big big problem
[12:49] <defrysk> dmoyne, sure if you have to :)
[12:49] <imbrandon> Doat: when you log in before choose the session type as KDE
[12:49] <kuzmaster> defrysk, dose it work?
[12:49] <DarkWizzard> after updating to dapper my 3d accelerotion doesn't work
[12:49] <RawSewage> Doat, maybe reboot and select KDE from the login screen
[12:49] <dmoyne> can I use a command on the tared file ?
[12:49] <defrysk> kuzmaster, works for my and with dns probs change http to ftp
[12:49] <DarkWizzard> the Xorg.0.log show that everithing is ok
[12:49] <kuzmaster> ok
[12:49] <DarkWizzard> but glxinfo shows no direct rendering
[12:49] <Doat> RawSewage, hmm.. ok
[12:49] <kuzmaster> to much tweaking for me sorry
[12:49] <DarkWizzard> I would need to load kernel module drm
[12:49] <RawSewage> imbrandon, you should install that on a Windows computer user and tell them it's Vista
[12:50] <DarkWizzard> but it can't be
[12:50] <dmoyne> or do I have first to untar ?
[12:50] <defrysk> tar zxvf <sourcepackage>
[12:50] <imbrandon> lol RawSewage http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot2.png
[12:50] <imbrandon> ok i'm off to bed, gnight
[12:50] <kuzmaster> just a note, on both installations, when i first opend sources.list as root, it said...
[12:50] <RawSewage> imbrandon, oh, I guess I saw someone else's yesterday.  They had the START menu
[12:50] <kuzmaster> url malformed
[12:50] <kuzmaster> or somthing like that
[12:51] <RawSewage> imbrandon, the exact Windows START menu logo
[12:51] <imbrandon> RawSewage: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot1.png
[12:51] <dmoyne> defrysk: can I use a command on the tared file or do I have first to untar ?
[12:51] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:51] <defrysk> dmoyne, tar zxvf <sourcepackage>
[12:51] <RawSewage> lol
[12:51] <defrysk> dmoyne, tu unpack it
[12:51] <imbrandon> thats the good thing about making your own theme ;)
[12:51] <kuzmaster> after changing sources.list, do i got apt-get update
[12:51] <imbrandon> RawSewage: it might have been someone that just had my theme installed
[12:52] <imbrandon> too
[12:52] <kuzmaster> go**
[12:52] <RawSewage> imbrandon, You made that theme?
[12:52] <defrysk> tu pac or tu unpack thats the question
[12:52] <imbrandon> RawSewage: yes
[12:52] <RawSewage> cool
[12:52] <imbrandon> RawSewage: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/theme/royale/
[12:53] <dmoyne> defrysk: untared accomplished how to upgrade ?
[12:53] <defrysk> cd <tothatfolder>
[12:53] <dmoyne> done
[12:54] <imbrandon> defrysk: nah the saying is "make install;not war"  ;)
[12:54] <fabio_> salve
[12:54] <RawSewage> imbrandon, Thats a diff Start button
[12:54] <defrysk> dmoyne, ./configure
[12:54] <kuzmaster> ohhhhhh, adept/sources.list hates me
[12:54] <defrysk> hehe imbrandon :D
[12:54] <kuzmaster> it NEVER works
[12:54] <dmoyne> I have not used the diff file  yet ?
[12:54] <imbrandon> RawSewage: when you download the startbutton replace the tux_start.png with xp_start.png , i dont make the windows on public
[12:54] <kuzmaster> nope
[12:54] <kuzmaster> dont no how
[12:54] <defrysk> dmoyne, I thought you had one for french support seperatly downloaded ?
[12:55] <dmoyne> hoops : the idea is to get a source of festival to be recompiled in another process
[12:56] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, even with the us mirros, it still times out
[12:56] <kuzmaster> mirror**
[12:56] <kuzmaster> i keep getting cto's
[12:57] <dmoyne> defrysk: but my question was I had with the tared file a diff file to update the tared source ; sofar it has not been used
[12:57] <defrysk> dmoyne, if you wish to use the one from the repo its easy to compile a .deb
[12:57] <kuzmaster> help?
[12:57] <blush_> how can i see the driver used in a network interface?
[12:58] <defrysk> dmoyne, all you have to do is fakeroot apt-get source -b festival
[12:58] <defrysk> and a .deb wil be build for you automaticly
[12:58] <[Evil] [Ernie] > anyone know how to get wireless working on kunbuntu? or a link to that information
[12:58] <kuzmaster> kubuntu 6.06 hates me
[12:58] <kuzmaster> ive tried everything
[12:58] <kuzmaster> and it just dosnt work
[12:59] <dmoyne> so you mean I fakeroot in my untared folder
[12:59] <defrysk> dmoyne, no
[12:59] <defrysk> I thought you had a seperate source of festival with french support
[12:59] <dmoyne> defry
[12:59] <dmoyne> defrysk: I ma lost now
[01:00] <Healot> hi kubuntuans
[01:00] <defrysk> dmoyne, you do not have to compile festival its in the repos
[01:00] <blush_> [Evil] [Ernie] , there is a lot of information in the wiki. Anyway, that doesn't help me so much
[01:00] <imbrandon> [Evil] [Ernie] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[01:00] <defrysk> just sudo apt-get install festival
[01:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thank you
[01:01] <dmoyne> defrysk: being done but I do not understand what we are doing after loading a source in my domain
[01:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i should have looked first, kubuntu has a wireless assistant
[01:02] <defrysk> dmoyne, you can delete those
[01:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i think my question should have been how do i activate my wireless card on this laptop
[01:02] <kuzmaster> would my router be blocking adept?
[01:02] <defrysk> you dont need tham
[01:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > but, i will check the wiki, it might say
[01:02] <kuzmaster> could that happen?
[01:03] <kuzmaster> could it?
[01:03] <defrysk> dmoyne, when you need more festival related packages , just do apt-cache search festival
[01:03] <defrysk> dmoyne, my apologies for the misunderstandings ;)
[01:04] <exceswater> hello
[01:04] <exceswater> hi defrysk
[01:04] <blush_> i think i'll change to Fedora Core again. Wireless with Boradcom and wpa it's being quite annoying
[01:04] <defrysk> time to take the dog out
[01:04] <defrysk> WraF!
[01:04] <exceswater> hehe
[01:04] <exceswater> woof woof
[01:04] <dmoyne> defrysk: maybe I shoud have explained the idea behind all this ! : to recomplile Franfest + Mbrola + Festival and I wanted to provide to this processus the path of a freh Festival source but I knew that festival was in the repos and that it was working well in English but not in French !!!
[01:04] <exceswater> i have a question... again
[01:05] <exceswater> to make a shortcut on the desktop
[01:05] <exceswater> i should use konsole
[01:05] <exceswater> cd to where i want to
[01:05] <josh> is it possible for my wireless router to block or interfere with adept?
[01:05] <exceswater> and after that: ln -s path to file ?
[01:05] <exceswater> but i want shortcut for a file.. not for a dir
[01:05] <kuzmaster> is it?
[01:05] <defrysk> dmoyne, afaIk festival is not available in French at all
[01:06] <dmoyne> thios I know but there is a possibility with Franfest using Festival + Mbrola with French voicies !
[01:06] <kuzmaster> is it possible for my wireless router to block or interfere with adept?
[01:07] <kuzmaster> im gonna re-start, that might help
[01:10] <dmoyne> defrysk: the guy in charge of this provide a script to be executed this script loads a Festival source when you do not provide a path to a source but it failed ; he proposed to work with a 64 bit Ubuntu Festival source that may have special feature for the global compilation process to succed of course everything to be installed in /usr/local to avoid interference with Ubuntu Festival executables !
[01:14] <Doat> ok i got to kde now but all the menus are full of gnome apps. is there an easy way to remove them?
[01:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > in network settings - system settings i click enable on my wireless card
[01:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it enables for about 1 second then disables again
[01:16] <dmoyne> defrysk: thanks for all thgis information
[01:17] <dmoyne> bye !
[01:17] <kronoz> how does the windows free softare pop up on kubuntu cd for windows work? is it qt? or gtk or gtk+qt
[01:28] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: ping
[01:28] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: pong
[01:28] <Hobbsee> (sorta)
[01:29] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: did you remember the keyboardproblem I sometimes have
[01:29] <jeroenvrp> and you also
[01:29] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: oh, was that you?  i got you mixed with jsgotangco
[01:29] <Hobbsee> yep
[01:29] <jeroenvrp> I bought a new keyboard and still the same problems
[01:29] <jeroenvrp> I've made a bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/49779
[01:29] <jeroenvrp> FYI
[01:30] <Hobbsee> looking...
[01:31] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: do we have a clue where it's supposed to be assigned to?
[01:31] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: and this happens on both kde and gnome right?
[01:31] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: I don't know about gnome
[01:31] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:31] <jeroenvrp> I don't have that
[01:32] <jeroenvrp> it must be profile related I think
[01:32] <jeroenvrp> or user related
[01:32] <jeroenvrp> I keep an extra (tail -f) eye on the X-log
[01:34] <erik_> will KDE be upgraded to 3.5.3 in official Kubuntu, or will we have to wait for next Kubuntu release for that
[01:36] <chavo> erik_, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[01:36] <erik_> chavo: that's not official packages
[01:37] <Hobbsee> erik_: next kubuntu release
[01:37] <Hobbsee> and they're mostly official
[01:37] <erik_> anyway, they broke dependencies when I tried them so I re-installed kubuntu and decided to wait for official
[01:37] <erik_> Hobbsee: wehn do you think we'll get official 3.5.3 debs?
[01:38] <Hobbsee> erik_: edgy
[01:39] <defrysk> erik_, did you try kubuntu-desktop ?
[01:39] <Child4Christ> i used alien to convert the java rpm to deb, an app says it isnt installed an its in a dir, should i have installed it a different way?
[01:39] <defrysk> Child4Christ, wrong choice
[01:40] <defrysk> !java
[01:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[01:40] <Child4Christ> thx :)
[01:40] <erik_> defrysk: I pointed to the 3.5.3 sources and performed a dist-upgrade
[01:40] <defrysk> erik_, I did it too and worked like a charm
[01:41] <defrysk> erik_, I usually do and "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" after
[01:41] <defrysk> to make sure to get is all
[01:41] <prxq> Hi. I can't seem to change the color scheme of my konsole (in dapper)
[01:41] <defrysk> prxq, yes
[01:42] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i just realized you can't really see how much harddisk space you have left =o
[01:42] <prxq> defrysk: yes what :-) ?
[01:42] <defrysk> you should be able to
[01:42] <defrysk> prxq, had to re-read your q
[01:43] <prxq> oh.
[01:43] <Hobbsee> prxq: settings, configure konsole, schema
[01:43] <prxq> Well, when I change the scheme, the konsole blinks but stays that way
[01:43] <Child4Christ> do i need to change the sources cause it says it cant find it :/
[01:44] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: yes, you need multiverse
[01:44] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: add " multiverse" after where it has universe
[01:44] <Child4Christ> thx :)
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > holy freaking crap
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > apparently this installed /home to the partition i wanted to use for a swap file
[01:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi guys, can i ask you if you know way to watch the Soccer World cup in streaming?? i know there's a free way of watching them on some chinese channels, i really hope that you know something about it
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and now my swap is installed to the partition i wanted for /home
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > which is 44 gb
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > haha
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ridiculous!
[01:47] <defrysk> prxq, you use xgl or something perhaps ?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or something...
[01:47] <prxq> defrysk: nope. kubuntu default install. Well, on an amd64
[01:47] <defrysk> prxq, or a custom theme ?
[01:48] <Child4Christ> seems to have worked, thx guys ^-^
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: not a problem
[01:49] <prxq> defrysk: neither. Really the default kde install.
[01:49] <Child4Christ> lol now i dont have to throw the box out the window
[01:49] <defrysk> prxq, honestly no clue then
[01:49] <prxq> defrysk: if i try to set colors, I can select one but after selecting it, the shown color is the old one (in the dialog)
[01:56] <Child4Christ> i can only assume this is a bad thing: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:56] <Child4Christ> :/
[01:57] <kronoz> Child4Christ: er just run the operation again
[01:57] <kronoz> Child4Christ: it doesn't really matter, it won't cuase any harm at
[01:58] <Child4Christ> says theres unmet dependencies
[01:58] <kronoz> Child4Christ: apt-get -f install
[01:58] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: what are you trying to install and what are they?
[01:58] <Child4Christ> same thing :/
[01:58] <Child4Christ> sun-java5-jdk <-- this for P2P clients
[01:59] <Child4Christ> limewire and frostwire use java
[01:59] <kronoz> !java-package
[01:59] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kronoz
[01:59] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: are you following the proper guide to get that package?
[01:59] <Child4Christ> yup
[01:59] <kronoz> !java
[01:59] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[01:59] <Healot> !repos
[01:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:59] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: so you're getting them from multiverse?
[01:59] <Child4Christ> i just run apt-get install that and it gives me errors an now dependencies needed
[01:59] <Child4Christ> yup
[01:59] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: can you pastebin the errors?
[02:00] <Child4Christ> sure
[02:00] <Healot> dapper repos, not dapper-backports repos
[02:00] <Child4Christ> umm, how do i use it?
[02:00] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: /msg ubotu pastebin
[02:00] <Child4Christ> ty
[02:03] <Child4Christ> do i put my name under name then click send?
[02:03] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: sure
[02:03] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: then produce the URL here
[02:03] <Child4Christ> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15762
[02:05] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: what happens if you sudo apt-get -f install as mentioned above?
[02:05] <Child4Christ> not sure, lemme try
[02:05] <Hobbsee> or apt-get build-dep packagename
[02:06] <apokryphos> why? ;-)
[02:06] <Child4Christ> same thing
[02:06] <Hobbsee> there was a reason.
[02:07] <Child4Christ> build-deps doin somethin
[02:07] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: no, that won't do it. That's just for getting build-dependencies.
[02:07] <Child4Christ> o
[02:07] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: is it the *exact* same error with apt-get -f install?
[02:08] <Child4Christ> yea, dependencies
[02:08] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: what happens if you sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb
[02:09] <Child4Christ> errors
[02:09] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: what errors?
[02:10] <Child4Christ> subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 <-- only error it says, otherwise just says "errors"
[02:10] <zax1> shortly after the installer retrieves (some 257 software ) packages for installation, and then unpacking and installing. the nstaller crashes. i am installing XUBUNTU, any one ever had similar expiriences ? any suggestions ?( by the way, the same laptop was fine when i installed win 2000,kubuntu and ubuntu)
[02:11] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: could you pastebin what it says exactly?
[02:11] <apokryphos> it is a very weird error...
[02:11] <Child4Christ> sure
[02:12] <Child4Christ> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15763
[02:12] <Child4Christ> sorry is this is causing problems
[02:13] <georgeblunt> hey there
[02:13] <exceswater> hi all
[02:13] <exceswater> i have a question
[02:13] <exceswater> few minutes before
[02:13] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: don't be, we're here to help :)
[02:13] <exceswater> i've seen that updates are available
[02:13] <georgeblunt> !xfree86-dga
[02:13] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, georgeblunt
[02:13] <exceswater> i hit applu
[02:14] <exceswater> and adept updater started
[02:14] <exceswater> and somewhere in the middle crashed
[02:14] <exceswater> now it seems something else is using adept
[02:14] <exceswater> and i cannot upgrade
[02:14] <Child4Christ> thx, i appreciate it ^-^
[02:14] <exceswater> what can i do
[02:14] <georgeblunt> exceswater: i had the excact same problem a few days ago
[02:14] <exceswater> and ?
[02:14] <georgeblunt> let me think... hehe
[02:15] <exceswater> it was a big download... 29 M
[02:15] <exceswater> and it crashed
[02:15] <exceswater> there is no CTRL-ALT_DEL in linux :D ?
[02:15] <Child4Christ> ctrl+alt+del twice restarts the computer
[02:15] <exceswater> oic
[02:15] <Child4Christ> does for me anyway :)
[02:15] <georgeblunt> try: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:16] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: hm, I just looked at a bug report...
[02:16] <exceswater> what does that ?
[02:16] <apokryphos> try installing from adept or synaptic
[02:16] <Child4Christ> its a bug?
[02:16] <georgeblunt> exceswater: i had the problem, that it crashed during configuration.. this finishes all configuration tasks
[02:16] <Child4Christ> do you know the package name for adept?
[02:16] <exceswater> i understand
[02:17] <exceswater> thank you
[02:17] <exceswater> :d
[02:17] <georgeblunt> np ^^
[02:18] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: it is, yes.
[02:18] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: install that same sun package you were trying
[02:18] <georgeblunt> does anyone know anything about the xfree86-dga extension?
[02:19] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: sun-java5-jre
[02:19] <exceswater> it worked now
[02:19] <exceswater> 10x
[02:19] <Child4Christ> thx apokryphos, tryin to get adept to work :)
[02:20] <georgeblunt> exceswater: great :D
[02:20] <Child4Christ> ok umm, shouldnt be runnin 4 times an not on my screen right?
[02:21] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: sorry?
[02:21] <Child4Christ> adept didnt show up so i ps aux | grep adept and it looks like its running 4 times
[02:21] <Child4Christ> thing is i dont see it :/
[02:21] <apokryphos> oh
[02:22] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: are you doing alt+f2 -> adept
[02:22] <Child4Christ> no
[02:22] <Child4Christ> should i?
[02:22] <Child4Christ> not sure what alt+f2 does
[02:22] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: yeah, you should try it that way. Alt+f2 is KDE's quick-launcher
[02:23] <Child4Christ> ooo, thx!! :))))
[02:24] <apokryphos> does it work?
[02:24] <Child4Christ> yea, thx :)
[02:24] <Child4Christ> :D
[02:24] <apokryphos> cool
[02:25] <Child4Christ> it seems to be workin :D
[02:25] <Child4Christ> oh ok now i have java lol
[02:25] <Child4Christ> *hate
[02:25] <Child4Christ> more errors
[02:26] <exceswater> again
[02:26] <exceswater> noobie time :D
[02:26] <exceswater> i installed 3d desktop
[02:26] <exceswater> veeeery nice
[02:26] <exceswater> just show this to win users and they give up win :d
[02:26] <exceswater> but i dunno where to config it
[02:27] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: ok, one sec
[02:27] <Child4Christ> tyt
[02:27] <Child4Christ> :)
[02:27] <fek> moin
[02:28] <ubuntu> hi, can i install firefox within the live cd?
[02:28] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[02:28] <apokryphos> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:28] <apokryphos> hi fek
[02:29] <Child4Christ> its given me a screen
[02:29] <Child4Christ> "Editor" or "Noninteractive"
[02:29] <exceswater> who can help me about that 3d desktop
[02:29] <exceswater> :D
[02:29] <ThePianoGuy> exit
[02:30] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: no "dialog"?
[02:30] <Child4Christ> no its like the install screen for 5.10
[02:30] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: you're on 5.10? :/
[02:30] <Child4Christ> nah, 6.06 beta 2
[02:30] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: ok, switch to editor
[02:30] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: beta 2? Why =)
[02:31] <Child4Christ> but the screen on the term is like the 5.10 installer
[02:31] <apokryphos> that could be the cause of the problem
[02:31] <Child4Christ> cause its the only one i downloaded :P
[02:31] <Child4Christ> release wasnt out at the time ;p
[02:31] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: I recommend upgrading your system... heh, you should've mentioend that before :)
[02:31] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:31] <Child4Christ> dist-upgrade?
[02:32] <apokryphos> yup
[02:32] <Child4Christ> last time i used just upgrade an it said nothin to upgrade, install etc
[02:32] <Child4Christ> does that matter?
[02:32] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: try that now, we'll see.
[02:33] <Child4Christ> 3 not fully installed or removed. <-- might have proved a prob
[02:33] <apokryphos> huh?
[02:33] <exceswater> who can help me about 3d desktop configuration please
[02:33] <Child4Christ> atm its setting up libltdl3
[02:33] <apokryphos> exceswater: do you mean setting up xgl+compiz?
[02:33] <exceswater> defrysk: are you here
[02:33] <exceswater> nope
[02:34] <defrysk> ?
[02:34] <exceswater> i just installed from kubuntu: 3d desktop
[02:34] <defrysk> sup ?
[02:34] <exceswater> :D
[02:34] <exceswater> i cannot config something
[02:34] <exceswater> 3d desktop
[02:34] <exceswater> :D
[02:34] <defrysk> 3d deskop?
[02:34] <exceswater> the file is installe
[02:34] <defrysk> whats that ?
[02:34] <exceswater> installed
[02:34] <exceswater> if i hit ALT - F2 and type: 3ddesk
[02:34] <apokryphos> it's a little app for some "fake" 3ddesk stuff
[02:34] <exceswater> aha
[02:34] <exceswater> some like that
[02:35] <apokryphos> exceswater: run it from terminal, then you'll be able to see errors
[02:35] <exceswater> like in SUSE
[02:35] <exceswater> :D
[02:35] <apokryphos> exceswater: it's quite cool though
[02:35] <exceswater> it works
[02:35] <apokryphos> exceswater: no, suse has the real ones ;-)
[02:35] <defrysk> suse ? whats that ?
[02:35] <exceswater> but i cannot imagine how to config it
[02:35] <Child4Christ> should i just download an install the release version?
[02:35] <exceswater> another distro
[02:35] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: nope, just execute the above command
[02:35] <apokryphos> defrysk: /msg ubotu suse
[02:36] <Healot> SuSE - one of the best commercial bs out there :)
[02:36] <Child4Christ> bs?
[02:36] <defrysk> apokryphos, you really think I am that ignorent ?
[02:36] <apokryphos> defrysk: I don't know you, so I have no idea.
[02:36] <Child4Christ> i dont like SuSE, it doesnt like my sound card lol
[02:37] <apokryphos> ok, anyway...... :)
[02:37] <defrysk> novell crap
[02:37] <Healot> damn it's no crap
[02:37] <apokryphos> defrysk: please take it to -offtopic
[02:37] <defrysk> apokryphos, ?
[02:37] <exceswater> hey hey
[02:37] <exceswater> please help me
[02:37] <apokryphos> defrysk: what was unclear?
[02:38] <apokryphos> exceswater: did you type it in the terminal?
[02:38] <exceswater> how can i config that 3d desk
[02:38] <Healot> exceswater: that 3ddesktop?
[02:38] <exceswater> yes
[02:38] <apokryphos> exceswater: so what does it say
[02:38] <exceswater> it says it'a allready started
[02:38] <exceswater> :D
[02:38] <apokryphos> exceswater: ok, then you need to use one of the options to get it running
[02:38] <defrysk> apokryphos, what do I have to take to aff topic ?
[02:38] <exceswater> i dunno where to find config for it
[02:38] <defrysk> off
[02:38] <apokryphos> do 3ddesk --help or something
[02:38] <exceswater> how
[02:38] <exceswater> k
[02:38] <exceswater> i try
[02:38] <apokryphos> defrysk: your "novell crap" and other such offtopic messages.
[02:38] <defrysk> oic
[02:38] <defrysk> ok sorry
[02:38] <Child4Christ> should have man pages for that shouldnt it?
[02:39] <apokryphos> yup
[02:39] <apokryphos> or help pages, at least
[02:39] <Child4Christ> i find myself typing man app too much at times lol
[02:39] <exceswater> it doesn't do nothing
[02:39] <exceswater>  :D
[02:39] <exceswater> i google it
[02:39] <exceswater> :D
[02:40] <exceswater> please don't fight guys
[02:40] <exceswater> :D
[02:40] <apokryphos> on fighting here =)
[02:40] <exceswater>  /\
[02:40] <Child4Christ> apokryphos: do you know what libltdl3 is?
[02:41] <Healot> !info libltdl3
[02:41] <ubotu> libltdl3: (A system independent dlopen wrapper for GNU libtool), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.5.22-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 163 kB, Installed size: 236 kB
[02:42] <Child4Christ> my term still says its setting it up
[02:42] <exceswater> anyone here from romania ?
[02:42] <Healot> The O-zone?
[02:43] <exceswater> heeh
[02:43] <exceswater> everybody numa numa
[02:43] <Healot> i guess there is/are someone from Romania besides you
[02:45] <Healot> exceswater: figure out that 3ddesktop switcher yet?
[02:46] <gil> anyone have time to give me instructions on setting up bootspslash screens
[02:46] <gil> i am a bit confused from most of the tutorials i have read
[02:47] <Healot> which tutorial might that be?
[02:47] <Healot> every Internet/Wikiwiki tutorials is confusing :)
[02:48] <gil> yes welll...i have got  a bunch of bootsplash screens from kde-look and i want to know the most easy efficient way of implementing it
[02:49] <Healot> those bootsplashes
[02:49] <gil> yes!
[02:49] <Child4Christ> umm, i think it might have crashed or something
[02:49] <Child4Christ> still says the same thing :/
[02:50] <Healot> damn gil, I only change those bootsplash for OEM... but never actually customize my own
[02:51] <gil> ok
[02:52] <Tobberoth> I'm thinking of installing the kubuntu-desktop package (I'm on normal ubuntu), how much will this mess up? Will it be easy to uninstall later if I don't desire it? Is it easy to jump between gnome and KDE?
[02:54] <Healot> yup you can remove the KDE desktop packages just like any other desktop metapackages
[02:54] <elton> Hello world! I need help, can anybody help me?
[02:54] <Healot> btw, the DM allows you to switch desktop
[02:54] <Healot> !usplash
[02:54] <ubotu> it has been said that usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:55] <Healot> gil >> that might help
[02:55] <Tobberoth> sounds good
[02:55] <elton> Hello world! I need help, can anybody help me?
[02:56] <Healot> wait a sec, that the grub usplash
[02:56] <Healot> !bootsplash
[02:56] <ubotu> Healot: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:56] <Healot> elton: question?
[02:57] <elton> Thanks Healot
[02:57] <elton> I'm brasilian, sorry for my bad english
[02:58] <elton> Healot, i have problems to run MP3 files
[02:58] <Healot> !mp3
[02:58] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:59] <elton> thanks
[02:59] <elton> I'm gonna see it now
[02:59] <elton> thanks
[02:59] <Healot> just ask if you encounter problems
[03:00] <elton> ok
[03:01] <elton> I have another problem
[03:01] <elton> I have two sound-card in my computer
[03:01] <Mitja> Where can I edit preferences for saving sessions?
[03:01] <elton> How can I change the default option?
[03:02] <hurraedgeht> yeah! ubuntu rulez!!!
[03:02] <Child4Christ> is there a reason its stuck on this? Setting up libltdl3 (1.5.22-2) ...
[03:03] <Healot> elton: just jack the headphone/speaker to the card you desire... btw if you have built in card, you can disable it in BIOS
[03:04] <Healot> gil: for the KDE splashcreen http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=35&PHPSESSID=e69df461df369ee7b418dd47c68badc0
[03:05] <elton> ok
[03:05] <elton> thanks
[03:05] <Healot> ky, off to the TV screen
[03:06] <gil> thanks healot
[03:06] <gil> i know the KDE one...thats simple/
[03:06] <gil> i am trying the boot splash one
[03:08] <Child4Christ> least bibletime works ^-^
[03:12] <tobberoth> Okey, I just did /etc/init.d kdm start
[03:12] <tobberoth> and I got a KDE log in window.. but uh.. it looks exactly like gnome once started
[03:14] <Child4Christ> shouldnt look like gnome
[03:14] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[03:15] <Child4Christ> should be a single bar on the bottom (called kicker)
[03:15] <tobberoth> Child4Christ: I have a bar at the top aswell.. exactly like in GNOME :/
[03:16] <Child4Christ> ...
[03:16] <Child4Christ> hmm
[03:16] <Child4Christ> sure you selected to log into KDE before you entered your login details?
[03:16] <tobberoth> hmm..
[03:16] <tobberoth> I'll try again
[03:17] <Child4Christ> theres an option on login called "Sessions" click it an select KDE
[03:17] <Child4Christ> think its at the bottom left
[03:18] <oem> hi.how can i tell grub to boot windows first? or how can i install lilo?
[03:18] <Child4Christ> when you boot up you have a timer, use the arrow keys on your keyboard and it stats, allows you to choose to boot windows
[03:19] <tobberoth> Yeah, found the error.. wow this looks nothing like GNOME^^
[03:19] <Child4Christ> lol yea, i prefer KDE :)
[03:19] <tobberoth> KDE looks more like windows really..
[03:19] <Child4Christ> i usually have mine looking like a mac
[03:20] <Child4Christ> doesnt have to
[03:20] <Child4Christ> once you customize it you can make it look nothing like win ;)
[03:20] <larson9999> how do you set up a global alias so that ll='s -l for everyone who logs in?
[03:21] <oem> child, i know that....but how can i set windows as standard?
[03:21] <tobberoth> hmm, seems amarok 1.4 isn't in adept either
[03:21] <Child4Christ> not sure :/
[03:22] <defrysk> tobberoth, deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main
[03:22] <Child4Christ> apt-get install amarok
[03:23] <tobberoth> defrysk, I don't know what to do with that
[03:23] <defrysk> tobberoth, nm then :)
[03:23] <tobberoth> I tried to write apt-get deb http etc
[03:23] <oem> bye guys....i'll ask you some silly questions again next week
[03:23] <tobberoth> but it didn't work
[03:24] <Child4Christ> oem best to ask in a grub channel
[03:24] <oem> i don't want to have grub...i'd prefer lilo but don't know how to install it
[03:25] <Snake> Digg is down hahahaah!
[03:25] <Child4Christ> if you made one mistake you wouldnt be able to boot anything
[03:25] <Child4Christ> if grubs wrote to the mbr it would be tricky cause its whats enabling you to boot any OS
[03:26] <tobberoth> I installed grub
[03:26] <Child4Christ> technically i wouldnt advise touching the boot loader
[03:26] <oem> but if i but in a win98 cd then grub is away
[03:26] <tobberoth> it was very simple
[03:26] <tobberoth> it was something like root (hd0,5) then setup (hd0,0)
[03:26] <oem> can i choose the boot.loader during the ubuntu install?
[03:27] <Child4Christ> think ubuntu just uses grub
[03:27] <oem> ok thx
[03:27] <oem> i have to go now
[03:29] <charlie5> hi, what package would i need to install to allow mp3 files to be played (.ogg are ok) after a fresh dapper install ?
[03:29] <geneo91> .
[03:29] <Child4Christ> they should play in totem
[03:29] <Child4Christ> but i use xmms
[03:30] <charlie5> i think i only have kaffeine and amarok with the fresh install
[03:31] <charlie5> xmms is a better choice ?
[03:31] <keyne> charlie5: this is gonna help you : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:31] <keyne> you need libxine-extracodecs
[03:32] <charlie5> keyne: ah, much obliged :)
[03:34] <Child4Christ> is there a donkey client for kubuntu?
[03:35] <keyne> Child4Christ: yeah, you can use amule
[03:35] <Child4Christ> is it avaliable via apt-get?
[03:35] <keyne> yeah, but you may need to add universe repository
[03:39] <Child4Christ> think im gonna have to give up on the java
[03:39] <paperangel> whats up guys
[03:40] <Child4Christ> ^-^
[03:40] <paperangel> lol
[03:40] <paperangel> i love kubuntu
[03:41] <paperangel> i usually use red hat stuf
[03:41] <paperangel> f
[03:41] <paperangel> but ubuntu is nice.
[03:41] <Child4Christ> BSD an CentOS is what i normally use
[03:41] <paperangel> i know a good gnutella client
[03:41] <paperangel> for kubuntu
[03:41] <Child4Christ> what is it?
[03:42] <paperangel> apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[03:42] <Platypus> Has anyone else had problems with the Kubuntu LiveCD and AMD's Cool'n'Quiet?
[03:43] <paperangel> do you have AIM C4C
[03:43] <Child4Christ> couldnt find the package :/
[03:44] <paperangel> are you using dapper
[03:44] <Child4Christ> yea, 6.06 beta 2
[03:44] <paperangel> ...type apt-get update
[03:45] <Child4Christ> some index files couldnt be used :/
[03:45] <paperangel> do you have any instant messengers
[03:45] <Child4Christ> Kopete
[03:46] <Child4Christ> right clicking something on the desktop seems to crash that an the desktop
[03:46] <paperangel> do you have aol
[03:46] <paperangel> damn
[03:46] <Child4Christ> nope ^-^
[03:46] <paperangel> your using KDE right?
[03:46] <Child4Christ> AOL free
[03:46] <Child4Christ> yep
[03:46] <paperangel> what clients do you have
[03:46] <paperangel> like sn for
[03:46] <Child4Christ> sn?
[03:46] <paperangel> screen name
[03:47] <Child4Christ> for Kopete?
[03:47] <Child4Christ> msn
[03:47] <paperangel> yah what is it
[03:48] <paperangel> i wat
[03:48] <paperangel> what kind of comp are you using
[03:48] <paperangel> wait*
[03:49] <Child4Christ> 1.10 gig pent III coppermine cpu, 256 ram
[03:49] <paperangel> hmm..
[03:49] <paperangel> www.linuxquestions.org
[03:51] <paperangel> that might be able to help you
[03:51] <Child4Christ> anyone know if the crash is a bug?
[03:51] <Child4Christ> happens quite a bit
[03:51] <paperangel> are you fully updated?
[03:51] <Child4Christ> have to kill Kopete to get it runnin right
[03:51] <Child4Christ> yup
[03:51] <paperangel> i have crashes too
[03:51] <paperangel> only for Konqueror though
[03:51] <paperangel> nothing really big
[03:52] <Child4Christ> left BSD due to a program i want crashing an i skipped CentOS cause i want KDE, hence Kubuntu ^-^
[03:53] <paperangel> my sn tfor msn is voice_lag@hotmail.com
[03:54] <Child4Christ> dont take offense if i dont add you justy ive had some nasty people on msn before :(
[03:54] <Child4Christ> *just
[03:54] <paperangel> ah its alright bro
[03:54] <paperangel> so, are you into angels any
[03:55] <Child4Christ> depends
[03:55] <Child4Christ> if their Gods angels, yes
[03:55] <paperangel> good.
[03:55] <paperangel> God is the shiznit.
[03:55] <paperangel> i dont really follow the church though
[03:56] <Child4Christ> i know satan took a load with him so angels arent always good :(
[03:56] <paperangel> i dont believe the fact that there are only 2 angels
[03:56] <Child4Christ> loads more
[03:56] <paperangel> in the christian religion
[03:56] <paperangel> yah
[03:56] <Child4Christ> satans one
[03:56] <paperangel> my favorites Gabriel
[03:56] <Child4Christ> >.<
[03:56] <paperangel> i like Raziel a lot too.
[03:56] <|apokryphos|> guys, please join us in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:57] <paperangel> lol alright
[04:08] <rene_> hi
[04:10] <Jolly_Jumper> hi#
[04:11] <Jolly_Jumper> komme bei meinem Problem nicht weiter. Hat jemand einen Tipp ? http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=3161
[04:12] <zax1> can any one help with driver installation
[04:12] <zax1> i am running xubuntu that was installed on the backof a breezy server install
[04:12] <Jolly_Jumper> sorry. is a english speaking channel.
[04:12] <Jolly_Jumper> :-(
[04:12] <zax1> but i need an intel driver for the display(or a better one than i am using) can anyone help?
[04:13] <Jolly_Jumper> i use 915resolution with an 1280x800 dislay
[04:18] <Jolly_Jumper> do somebody know a german speaking Kubuntu IRC channel?
[04:18] <v3ctor> do !de
[04:18] <v3ctor> !de
[04:18] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:18] <Jolly_Jumper> thx
[04:25] <chell> Kubuntu 6.06 rules
[04:27] <tobberoth> Um.. kopete doesn't seem to send my messeges
[04:27] <Child4Christ> is it set to online?
[04:27] <tobberoth> hmm.. seems it's just lagging really bad
[04:28] <Child4Christ> you'll have a ickle piccy on the bottom right, if its grey then its not online
[04:28] <tobberoth> It's not gray
[04:28] <Child4Christ> icon representing the protocol
[04:28] <Child4Christ> oh
[04:28] <Child4Christ> could be the service then
[04:29] <paperangel> i hate kopete
[04:29] <paperangel> i like GAIM
[04:29] <chell> I love Kopete, I hate GAIM ;-)
[04:31] <tobberoth> I think gaim is easier to use..
[04:31] <tobberoth> I can't get sound to work in kopete..
[04:31] <tobberoth> when I get messages etc
[04:31] <larson9999> gaim doesn't webcam.
[04:31] <tobberoth> neither do I :)
[04:31] <larson9999> or the last i looked it didn't
[04:32] <chell> I prefer KDE anyway
[04:32] <tobberoth> I sorta dislike not having a sound event when I get a message
[04:32] <larson9999> i run my computer with no sound whatsoever
[04:33] <tobberoth> hmm
[04:33] <tobberoth> maybe my sound iisn't even working on KDE..
[04:40] <tobberoth> Okey, I fixed the gpg key, how do I install AmaroK 1.4?
[04:40] <tobberoth> I know the apt source, but not how to use it
[04:40] <Child4Christ> try apt-get install amaork
[04:41] <tobberoth> Child4Christ: That will install 1.3.9
[04:41] <tobberoth> 1.3.9 can't find my iPod
[04:42] <Child4Christ> http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Download
[04:42] <Child4Christ> you can get Kubuntu ver from there
[04:44] <tobberoth> No I can't
[04:44] <tobberoth> that's the site I'm using
[04:44] <tobberoth> you just get the apt source, I have no idea what to do with it
[04:45] <Child4Christ> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:45] <Child4Christ> try adding deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main but make a #comment line before it so you can remove it if you have to
[04:46] <TheFuzzball> hello, who knows the command for Kubuntu's Control Centre?
[04:47] <Child4Christ> click the big K and select control center
[04:47] <Child4Christ> opos, system settings
[04:47] <Child4Christ> *oops
[04:47] <charlie5> msettings ?
[04:47] <tobberoth> gah, I'
[04:47] <TheFuzzball> that makes kcontrol appear
[04:48] <tobberoth> I'm having so much trouble with my ubuntu ^^ now adept won't start
[04:48] <qbert> kubuntu no longer does dhclient on startup i have to do it manually each time, how can i correct it ?
[04:49] <TheFuzzball> when command do I type as an alternative to kcontrol?
[04:56] <serenity> hi
[04:57] <serenity> is anyone of you using manDVD?
[04:58] <Tommy2k4>  i have it set to mount a networked pc on boot up but that pc isnt always on when i boot, any way to make it auto mount when its turned on or at least keep trying every few mins until it is
[05:04] <serenity> i am looking for an apps to create a slideshow with ken-burns-effects...does anyone know one
[05:12] <DaSkreech> gwenview I think?
[05:14] <larson9999> i don't konw about that but apparently kuickshow doesn't work in dapper so i'm using gwenview as a replacement.  the only thing it doesn't have i want is the ability to scroll through pictures with the wheel.
[05:19] <Bassetts> where are the kubuntu forums?
[05:20] <niekie> Bassetts, http://kubuntuforums.net/
[05:20] <Bassetts> thanks
[05:20] <CPU_Wizard> hello everybody!
[05:21] <niekie> Hi CPU_Wizard.
[05:21] <CPU_Wizard> i have a problem with kubuntu :-)
[05:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: hi sweetie
[05:21] <CPU_Wizard> hello Tallia1Kubuntu :-)
[05:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> just kidding :)
[05:21] <CPU_Wizard> i have an HP zd8000 series laptop
[05:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have the third leg
[05:21] <gsuveg> re
[05:21] <CPU_Wizard> and i tried to install kubuntu 6.06
[05:21] <CPU_Wizard> i have some problems though....
[05:21] <gsuveg> where can i setup /msg nickserver ... in konversation ?
[05:22] <CPU_Wizard> how can i configure the fan and cpu control?
[05:22] <CPU_Wizard> my laptop gets very hot...
[05:22] <CPU_Wizard> any idea?
[05:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: klaptopdaemon
[05:23] <CPU_Wizard> i have to download it?
[05:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> you can't control directly the fan
[05:23] <drayen> anyone managed to get 64bit kubuntu working with a broadcom wireless card?
[05:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhhhh, dunno :)
[05:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try to start it! :)
[05:23] <CPU_Wizard> ok, i have another problem too :-)
[05:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[05:23] <CPU_Wizard> once i insert a cd in the tray, i can't eject it
[05:23] <CPU_Wizard> lol :-)
[05:23] <CPU_Wizard> what's responsible for this?
[05:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: maybe because once you put the CD inside it is mounted
[05:24] <uniq> the linux kernel locks the device when it's in use.
[05:24] <uniq> that's why.
[05:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so you have to unmount it before ejecting
[05:24] <[zev] > unmount it
[05:24] <uniq> right click on the cd device and "eject" it will be ejected.
[05:24] <CPU_Wizard> i try it but it says that the system uses the cd
[05:24] <CPU_Wizard> (something like that)
[05:24] <uniq> then something is using the cd.
[05:25] <uniq> a window open browsing the cd or something similar.
[05:25] <CPU_Wizard> obviously.... i 'll try to unmount it from the console
[05:25] <svivian> CPU_Wizard: I bet when you put the cd in, Konquerer opened a window or tab somewhere. Make sure you close out anythign it might have opened
[05:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: try "eject" in the console
[05:25] <CPU_Wizard> no app is running!
[05:25] <CPU_Wizard> i'll try all these things!
[05:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> or otherwise you can kill all the applications that are using it automatically
[05:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> there is a command to do that
[05:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> gimme a sc
[05:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sec
[05:26] <uniq> cpu_wizard: in console you can use 'umount -l /dev/cdrom' and then eject.
[05:26] <CPU_Wizard> ok
[05:26] <uniq> tallia1kubuntu: fuser
[05:26] <CPU_Wizard> uniq, i 'll try it!
[05:26] <CPU_Wizard> i downloaded kubuntu dvd
[05:27] <CPU_Wizard> but i can't install packages from add/remove
[05:27] <CPU_Wizard> (all things go wrong with me :-))
[05:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok found
[05:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kill -k /dev/cdrom
[05:27] <svivian> CPU_Wizard: You aren't the only one
[05:27] <CPU_Wizard> thank you Tallia1Kubuntu!
[05:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to kill all the process using the cdrom, or
[05:27] <CPU_Wizard> i'll give it a try
[05:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kill - v /dev/cdrom
[05:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to know which process were using it
[05:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> after killing the application try the eject option you tried before
[05:28] <uniq> tallia1kubuntu: you mean 'fuser -vkm /dev/cdrom' don't you?
[05:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, sorry :)
[05:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yeah :D
[05:28] <CPU_Wizard> ok!
[05:28] <uniq> as far as i know kill don't have a -k option.
[05:28] <DaSkreech> gsuveg: Got an answer?
[05:28] <CPU_Wizard> anyone tried to install kubuntu on a laptop?
[05:29] <uniq> cpu_wizard: i'm running kubuntu on my apple ibook.
[05:29] <CPU_Wizard> really? cool!
[05:29] <CPU_Wizard> my laptop gets very hot
[05:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: i have been running kubuntu for a year... actually even more :)
[05:29] <tobberoth> What do I do if I don't get sounds on KDE? (Except mp3 playing, which wors perfectly)
[05:29] <CPU_Wizard> Tallia1Kubuntu, you are very lucky :-)
[05:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that's because ACPI is not enabled
[05:29] <sdlnxgk> how can I run programs as root???
[05:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sudo
[05:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sdlnxgk: sudo COMMAND
[05:30] <tobberoth> ACPI?
[05:30] <CPU_Wizard> the only distro that worked for me is suse 10.1 buti it's really heavy
[05:30] <CPU_Wizard> and slow
[05:30] <CPU_Wizard> so i want to try a few more times to make kubuntu work
[05:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kubuntu worked perfectly for me
[05:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and at the first try :)
[05:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and i didn't know ANYTHING about linux before trying it from scratch
[05:31] <CPU_Wizard> i'm jellous! i'm going to format my disc right now!
[05:31] <CPU_Wizard> and let you know!
[05:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: to control the temperature of the laptop you need a CPU-throttle daemon like cpufreqd
[05:32] <CPU_Wizard> thank you Tallia1Kubuntu, i'll download it :-)
[05:32] <nubby> are there known issues with the newest firefox and kubutu?
[05:32] <nubby> in new to kubuntu :) this is my first install and run of it
[05:32] <sdlnxgk> not sure how to use the sudo COMMAND
[05:32] <CPU_Wizard> thank you for your time, i really appreciate it!
[05:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: then you can control the daemon and set the throttle profile you need ( Performance, powersave...) using klaptopdaemon for example
[05:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: download??
[05:32] <CPU_Wizard> it is included in kubuntu?
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: do you know what are repositories right? you don't need to downlaod it manually!!!
[05:33] <CPU_Wizard> yes :-)
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, ok :)
[05:33] <CPU_Wizard> what i need most
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !cpu
[05:33] <ubotu> Tallia1Kubuntu: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:33] <tobberoth> Can someone please help me get regular sounds working on KDE? :)
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !klaptopdaemon
[05:33] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> grrr
[05:33] <CPU_Wizard> is kbabel, i'm a kde translator so i need it
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !cpufreqd
[05:33] <ubotu> Tallia1Kubuntu: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:33] <uniq> !fish
[05:33] <ubotu> I guess fish is A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.
[05:33] <uniq> !fishing
[05:33] <ubotu> hmm... fishing is randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)
[05:33] <uniq> heh.. :)
[05:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> uniq: thnx, didn't know about it :)
[05:34] <CPU_Wizard> i hope next time i'll be talking to you via kubuntu :-)
[05:34] <CPU_Wizard> thank you!
[05:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, maybe that will take some time :)
[05:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: a IRC client for kde is Konversation if you don't konw
[05:35] <omega> Hi
[05:35] <CPU_Wizard> i've been using suse for a long time :-)
[05:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: or irssi if you are in trouble and you can use only the terminal
[05:35] <CPU_Wizard> thank you Tallia1Kubuntu! you are very helpful!
[05:36] <omega> Adept just crashed and now I can't start it anymore. If I click the entry in the kmenu, it'll ask for a password, but then it doesn't do anything.
[05:36] <larson9999> omega i'm getting the same error.  i had to reboot to get it to work
[05:37] <omega> I'm not getting any error at all.
[05:37] <omega> It asks for a password and after that nothing happens.
[05:37] <larson9999> omega: i meant an error as in things not working the way they should
[05:37] <nubby> holy wow
[05:37] <nubby> all i have to do is use the adept manager and it finds stuff for me?
[05:37] <nubby> and installs it?
[05:37] <larson9999> lol
[05:38] <barros_> how is the best way to setup iptables in kubuntu?
[05:38] <nubby> this is great
[05:38] <larson9999> nubby which distro did you use before that didn't have a package manager?
[05:38] <omega> Wait till it crashes, nubby. Then you can' t use it anymore.
[05:39] <larson9999> omega you can probably find a hung process out there to kill, no?
[05:39] <nubby> :(
[05:39] <omega> How do I do that?
[05:39] <nubby> well im very new to linux
[05:39] <nubby> first run with kubuntu
[05:39] <omega> I don't see adept in the list of ksysguard
[05:39] <nubby> i was using su commands and konsole b4
[05:40] <nubby> and was using suse
[05:40] <uniq> omega: try 'sudo fuser -vk /var/lib/dpkg/lock' from konsole
[05:40] <uniq> and then run adept from the menu again.
[05:40] <winbond> i need help setting up fglrx on 64bit
[05:40] <nubby> heck yes
[05:40] <nubby> wow
[05:41] <nubby> such a nub i am
[05:41] <omega> Apparently root is using the process.
[05:41] <nubby> whats the best IM client ?
[05:41] <uniq> nubby: kopete.
[05:41] <winbond> i did the apt-get for the fglrx and aticonfig --initial. i can see the login screen but when i log in i loose signal from the video card
[05:42] <uniq> nubby: not counting IRC as IM, konversation is good for IRC.
[05:42] <oelschle> I think gaim is the best IM client!
[05:42] <nubby> uniq: cool cool....thanks :) was unsure if i should set the default IM client up or if there was a better one :)  thy!
[05:42] <nubby> i used to use gaim
[05:43] <nubby> i wish amsn could do them all :)
[05:43] <winbond> i need help setting up fglrx on 64bit
[05:43] <winbond> i did the apt-get for the fglrx and aticonfig --initial. i can see the login screen but when i log in i loose signal from the video card
[05:43] <omega> uniq: Why doesn't adept inform the user that the process can't start or something similar? And is the console command the only way to get it to work again?
[05:44] <uniq> omega: because adept isn't the perfect application yet. :)
[05:44] <uniq> omega: did it work when you killed the process using /var/lib/dpkg/lock with fuser, and then re-ran adept?
[05:44] <omega> Yes.
[05:45] <omega> Thanks for that.
[05:45] <omega> How do I turn off this auto filter thing? It's making adept very slow to use.
[05:45] <omega> It's like a friggin' AJAX web application "lolz, we thought you were using enter too often, so here's the autofilter thing"
[05:46] <coreymon77> guys
[05:47] <uniq> omega: don't think you can configure much UI behaviour yet.
[05:47] <omega> Too bad. :)
[05:47] <coreymon77> so dapper final is out
[05:47] <omega> Anyway, thanks for the command. Guess I'll make a shortcut for that or something. Adept seems to be crashing rather often.
[05:48] <coreymon77> does lts still mean it is a pre release
[05:48] <coreymon77> or is it the final
[05:48] <uniq> coreymon77: Long Term Support.
[05:48] <coreymon77> what does that mean
[05:49] <coreymon77> should i upgrade
[05:49] <coreymon77> uniq: what does "Long Term Support" mean
[05:50] <uniq> coreymon77: it means it's supported longer than regular releases.
[05:50] <jpatrick> coreymon77: support for 5 years instead of 3
[05:50] <jpatrick> or something like that
[05:50] <coreymon77> uniq: is it the stable release
[05:50] <nubby> whats the best media player?  VLC media player ?  i love it for windows
[05:50] <LjL> it's good enough
[05:50] <coreymon77> uniq: or still a flight release
[05:51] <Child4Christ> 3 years instead of a couple of months, for servers its 7 years
[05:51] <uniq> coreymon77: yes, all ubuntu releases are considered stable when they are released.
[05:51] <coreymon77> okay
[05:51] <coreymon77> how should i upgrade
[05:51] <coreymon77> using adept?
[05:51] <coreymon77> or with apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:53] <antoine> Salut tout le monde !
[05:53] <jpatrick> antoine: saalut
[05:53] <jpatrick> !fr
[05:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:53] <nubby> i search for VLC media player in the adept manager but i dont find it
[05:53] <jpatrick> :)
[05:53] <jpatrick> nubby: I think it's in multiverse
[05:53] <antoine> J'ai un gros problme, vous savez pas comment installer grub sur une disquette avec linstall de dapper ?
[05:53] <jpatrick> universe
[05:53] <nubby> im a nub :) please explain what that means :)
[05:53] <jpatrick> !sources
[05:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[05:54] <DaSkreech> nubby: Yup :-)
[05:54] <nubby> oh wow
[05:54] <coreymon77> guys
[05:54] <LjL> antoine: apt-cache show grub-disk
[05:54] <coreymon77> how should i upgrade my dapper from flight 8
[05:54] <nubby> jpatrick: TY heaps!
[05:54] <coreymon77> using adept or with apt-et dist-upgrade
[05:55] <raj__> coreymon77: Update your repositories first with apt-get update, then fire away with apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:55] <coreymon77> raj_: not using adept?
[05:56] <omega> Can anyone explain to me the purpose of "Add/Remove programs"?
[05:56] <rraajj> coreymon77: That's using APT on the command line.
[05:56] <DaSkreech> nubby: Best media player is the one that works for you ;-)
[05:56] <insanekane> omega: migratory fear reduction ?
[05:56] <omega> Because it seems that it doesn't list all available software. Which adept seems to do.
[05:56] <coreymon77> alright
[05:56] <insanekane> omega: it supposed to be for the people who are too scared of using adept
[05:57] <antoine> merci mais peut-on empecher le programme dinstallation dinstaller grub sur le mbr du disque dur ?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: You can use eitehr
[05:57] <omega> insanekane: Maybe so, but that still doesn't explain why it can't find all software. =P
[05:57] <DaSkreech> the command line is safer
[05:57] <omega> What if I want to install the Opera browser, or Skype? Not listed there.
[05:57] <insanekane> omega: thats the point ... it doesnt have to
[05:57] <insanekane> omega: it just shows a very limited subset
[05:58] <omega> Hm.
[05:58] <coreymon77> i do i have to re-update my repositories
[05:58] <DaSkreech> !tel antoine about fr
[05:58] <ubotu> DaSkreech: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:58] <DaSkreech> !tell antoine about fr
[05:58] <coreymon77> because i updated them in order to upgrade from breezy to dapper flight 8
[06:00] <coreymon77> would i have to update my repositories again, or are they fine now
[06:01] <omega> Why are .deb packages opened with ark by default? Why doesn't it show me the install dialog instead? (Which is most probably the thing most users want, I assume?) Ark just fails and complains about it not being in my PATH or something.
[06:03] <insanekane> omega: Ark cannot handle deb packages
[06:03] <nubby> wow!
[06:03] <nubby> just upgraded the repositories!
[06:03] <nubby> fantastic stuff!
[06:03] <nubby> TY!
[06:05] <omega> insanekane: After installing Dapper Drake 6.06 it's automaticly set up to handle those files.
[06:06] <insanekane> omega: you should probably right click on them, and use the Kubuntu Package menu that appears
[06:06] <omega> How do I change it so that double clicking on a .deb will do the same as right-clicking selecing kubuntu packagemanagement and then install?
[06:09] <insanekane> omega: eh ...
[06:09] <insanekane> omega: in the words of the Soup Nazi "No Soup for You!!"
[06:13] <vasu> hi
[06:17] <Drakeson> can you tempt me to fetch edgy?
[06:17] <Drakeson> just a weak reason might suffice ;)
[06:18] <WoodwardAve> Drakeson: I'm trying to fight that temptation as well
[06:18] <Drakeson> is it 2.6.16 ?
[06:20] <WoodwardAve> Drakeson: I believe so
[06:20] <svivian> Woohoo! Local Linux guru helped me sort out my display! There were a bunch of modes added, probably by aticonfig, which were unnecessary. The display manager picked one larger than my monitor could do, which was why I had the problem.
[06:20] <WoodwardAve> 2.6.17 hasn't been integrated just yet
[06:20] <WoodwardAve> will be soon i believe
[06:20] <WoodwardAve> from what i've read
[06:21] <svivian> I still don't have GLX functional. I get the DRI error even though the load dri entry is in xorg.conf, oh well.
[06:21] <svivian> I still have a problem with printing, so if there are any print experts here, I could use some help
[06:21] <Drakeson> WoodwardAve: thanks
[06:22] <Drakeson> I try not to test it (calm myself down for today!)
[06:23] <Drakeson> though, there is not telling what this poor machine would be running tomorrow ;)
[06:27] <svivian> Any printer experts on?
[06:28] <damien_> Hey all, what needs to be done to get xorg-driver-fglrx with 3d accel working after running an update which includes a new linux-image?
[06:29] <damien_> I tried removing and reinstalling it but that didn't work...
[06:31] <damien_> It worked fine (by checking via fglrxinfo) before running the update, but went back to Mesa after the new linux-image... anyone know?
[06:31] <jwat> what is the easiest way to view windows shares/
[06:32] <damien_> jwat, I think going to Remote Places
[06:32] <nik> smb:/
[06:32] <damien_> From the menu right next to the Blue K icon
[06:32] <damien_> That works too :)
[06:33] <jwat> "remote places" does not view my windows network
[06:33] <damien_> Sorry then you click on Samba Shares
[06:33] <damien_> And that should show you your windows network
[06:34] <damien_> but it is basically the same thing as typing smb:/ in konq
[06:34] <jwat> I was using smb4k with breezy until I updated to dapper and now I get the annoying error message of "the account was disabled"
[06:36] <jwat> smb:/ in konq <-- Booyah!!!
[06:37] <nik> :)
[06:39] <svivian> Any printer experts on?
[06:41] <omega> Thanks insanekane. ;)
[06:41] <mneisen> hello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200.
[06:42] <DaSkreech> svivian: Whats up?
[06:42] <DaSkreech> lnxKDE: Dood!!!
[06:43] <lnxKDE> sip?
[06:43] <lnxKDE> sup?
[06:43] <lnxKDE> DaSkreech no luck :(
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Whats up?
[06:43] <lnxKDE> DaSkreech no luck with the KDE svn install
[06:43] <svivian> DaSkreech: I still can't get Foomatic drivers to install. All the packages are installed according to Adept, but when I go into Admin mode in System Settings, and try to add the driver, it tells me the driver either isn't installed or I dont have rights to it.
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Whats the problem?
[06:44] <lnxKDE> dbus and qtbus wont be see by kdelibs
[06:44] <DaSkreech> svivian: Well do you have rights to them?
[06:44] <svivian> I'm running in admin mode, I would assume that would allow me to access the driver library
[06:45] <svivian> DaSkreech: It seems to have some connection to locale as well. whenever I run the printer install, it resets my local to "Default"
[06:46] <svivian> DaSkreech: that should be locale to "Default"
[06:47] <mneisen> hello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200.
[06:47] <svivian> DaSkreech: I can print, but only using RAW, which cuts the top 1/4 inch of my documents off
[06:47] <DaSkreech> lnxKDE: Which dbus is it?
[06:48] <torstefan> Hi, I am using Kopete as my IM agent. But it dosen't behave as I wish..  I would like to get a "bubble" only when someone pages me.. Is this possible?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> svivian: have you checked the forums?
[06:48] <torstefan> Now , there is a bubble everytime someone gets online, changes status, etc
[06:49] <lnxKDE> 0.62
[06:49] <DaSkreech> leafwiz: Stop changing your name right before I press tab :)
[06:49] <svivian> DaSkreech: I'm looking in as many places as I can
[06:49] <loanwolf> ? what package do i need for mpeg playback in xine
[06:49] <leafwiz> :)
[06:49] <DaSkreech> svivian: Ok Sorry about help here. Lots of folks are at conference I think
[06:50] <lnxKDE> DaSkreech : dbus0 0.62
[06:50] <DaSkreech> leafwiz: in the main kopete window can you check settings -> Notifications
[06:50] <lnxKDE> DaSkreech : see ya laterz gota go to work
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Cool
[06:51] <leafwiz> DaSkreech: yes, thx
[06:51] <omega> How do I change my password?
[06:52] <Hawkwind> omega: passwd
[06:52] <omega> passwd what? I don't see that option anywhere in System Settings.
[06:52] <Hawkwind> omega: Type it
[06:52] <LjL> passwd typed in a console
[06:52] <Hawkwind> passwd
[06:52] <uniq> omega: kmenu - system settings - user account - change password
[06:52] <Hawkwind> I don't use KDE so I don't know the graphical way
[06:53] <loanwolf> anyone know what package i need fore mpeg playback in xine
[06:53] <Hawkwind> When you do a apt-get dist-upgrade and a new kernel is installed, does that replace the current one, or install it next to the current one ?
[06:53] <LjL> Hawkwind: next to
[06:53] <omega> uniq: Do you mean users & settings?
[06:53] <omega> err, users & groups
[06:53] <Hawkwind> If it installs it next to the current one, how can I see a list of all installed kernels ?
[06:54] <uniq> omega: no,i mean user account.
[06:54] <Hawkwind> omega: Open up a console and simply type:  passwd
[06:54] <omega> Ah ok, I found it. Thanks uniq.
[06:54] <frank_> Hawkwind: it depends if the version number changes or not. It the version changes, the installs next to the old. If not it overwrites
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: teach the easy way first then the good way :-)
[06:54] <Hawkwind> Nevermind,  ls -l /boot/vmlinuz*  seems to give me the answer I wanted :)
[06:55] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: As I stated, I don't use KDE so I don't know the graphical way :P
[06:55] <LjL> frank_: i think the version number *always* changes, because at the very least the ubuntu number is changed
[06:55] <LjL> frank_: i just got 2.6.15-25 installed, and it installed alongside 2.6.15-23
[06:55] <Hawkwind> frank_: The version number always changes AFAIK
[06:55] <Hawkwind> LjL: Yeah same here.  Thanks guys :)
[06:55] <LjL> Hawkwind: also, you probably want to remove the old kernel *after* a reboot
[06:56] <frank_> Hawkwind: well security updates overwrite the old one AFAIK
[06:56] <Hawkwind> LjL: I always keep 2 kernels installed.  That way if something happens to one, I know I have another one that works I can boot to :)
[06:57] <LjL> that's reasonable enough
[06:57] <Hawkwind> Though I've screwed things up bad enough that neither kernel would boot
[06:57] <Hawkwind> Heh
[06:58] <LjL> eeeeh :)
[06:58] <McNutella> hey, how can I use my volume controls on the keyboard like I can with normal unibtu
[06:58] <Hawkwind> McNutella: Look into using lineak is one option
[06:59] <frank_> anyone know how to make kaffeine videos play 5% brighter all the time? I have to set it manually everytime I open kaffeine
[06:59] <LjL> McNutella: just assign the right keys to the relevant hotkeys in KMixer
[06:59] <frank_> for some reason, the upgrade to dapper caused videos to darken
[06:59] <McNutella> Hawkwind, nothing I can turn on in kubuntu ?
[06:59] <LjL> McNutella: if the keys are not recognized at all, then you should change your keyboard model in the control panel
[06:59] <McNutella> LjL, thats more like it, thanks
[07:00] <McNutella> LjL, will try out
[07:00] <LjL> McNutella: of course, you'll have to keep KMixer running. but i guess you're already doing that.
[07:00] <McNutella> i guess it is, somewhere :)
[07:01] <LjL> McNutella: note that, logically enough, the keyboard model is not set under Harware / Keyboard, but under Personal / Regional and Accessibility in System Settings
[07:02] <LjL> McNutella: the procedure for setting the hotkeys is also a bit involved
[07:03] <LjL> McNutella: first, start kmix, or if it's already started, click on the tray icon, then click mixer, and on the main window, right click on the master volume slider , and "configure global shortcuts"
[07:04] <mneisen> hello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200.
[07:04] <loanwolf> ? anyone know what package i need to play mpeg video's....everything saying i dont have decoder
[07:04] <LjL> loanwolf: tried VLC?
[07:05] <loanwolf> LjL, is that a player
[07:05] <LjL> loanwolf: yes
[07:05] <loanwolf> no...just installed xine
[07:06] <coreymon77> hey guys
[07:07] <coreymon77> do i have to install/update to the new kde? or was kde upgraded along with the dapper update
[07:07] <coreymon77> ?
[07:07] <uniq> loanwolf: you can try to install libxine-extracodecs.
[07:08] <uniq> coreymon77: KDE was updated along with the dapper update.
[07:08] <LjL> coreymon77: dapper comes with kde 3.5.2. however, if you want, there is kde 3.5.3 in a special repository at kubuntu.org
[07:08] <loanwolf> uniq, ok..will try that after vlc installs
[07:08] <coreymon77> thanks ljl
[07:08] <uniq> loanwolf: you can also give 'codeine' a try. It's my videoplayer of choice.
[07:09] <loanwolf> uniq, i might try it...
[07:09] <LjL> uniq: that still uses xine though, afaics
[07:09] <DaSkreech> loanwolf: you may need extra-codecs?
[07:10] <uniq> ljl: sure, but it's the best i've tried so far.
[07:10] <leafwiz> Is there a media client that can stream SMB streams , and also search in the stream.
[07:10] <leafwiz> Kaffeine can open and play. It has a tendacy to crash, and it cant search..
[07:10] <LjL> uniq: i'll give it a try
[07:10] <leafwiz> Other clients like VNC and MPlayer, downloads the file to disk. Then playes it
[07:11] <coreymon77> what is this "Jonathan Ridell's Key" thing
[07:11] <LjL> leafwiz: VNC you mean VLC? VLC doesn't download streams, it just streams them
[07:11] <leafwiz> LjL: Yes..
[07:11] <coreymon77> do i need to get this key thing aswell?
[07:12] <uniq> ljl: does vlc support smb:/ ?
[07:12] <LjL> coreymon77: repositories are signed, so that you can be assured that the packages are genuine
[07:12] <LjL> coreymon77: i'm not sure you *need* the key, though i think with the latest APT you do
[07:12] <coreymon77> alright
[07:12] <LjL> coreymon77: there should be instructions for getting the key on the same kubuntu.org anyway
[07:12] <coreymon77> so do this whole wget this
[07:13] <LjL> uniq: oh, no. that's because smb:// is a KDE thing, and VLC is not KDE
[07:13] <uniq> ljl: exactly.
[07:13] <Child4Christ> can someone tell me the link to the wiki for installing java please?
[07:13] <Hawkwind> !java
[07:13] <leafwiz> LjL: So , Kaffeine is the only one with smb:// support?
[07:13] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[07:14] <Child4Christ> ty :)
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Yep :)
[07:14] <LjL> i would *mount* samba shares anyday, though, rather than accessing them with KIOslaves
[07:14] <LjL> leafwiz: wouldn't know. other KDE players should have it too, i gues
[07:14] <damien_> Hey all, what needs to be done to get xorg-driver-fglrx with 3d accel working again after running an update which includes a new linux-image? (When it was working before)
[07:15] <damien_> Tried reinstalling the fglrx driver
[07:15] <coreymon77> guys
[07:15] <loanwolf> DaSkreech, i have all the extra's loaded
[07:16] <coreymon77> when i click on my sources.list file (as root) it says "KDEinit could not launch 'kate' " what does that mean?
[07:16] <leafwiz> LjL: mm.. What do you use?
[07:16] <LjL> leafwiz: VLC
[07:16] <coreymon77> but whn i go to the kmenu and try to open kate that way, it works
[07:16] <coreymon77> why?
[07:17] <leafwiz> LjL: Do u watch smb streams through it?
[07:17] <LjL> leafwiz: no. i have my samba shares mounted.
[07:19] <DaSkreech> damien_: You should try asking #ubuntu-xgl
[07:21] <coreymon77> guys
[07:22] <coreymon77> does it matter where i put deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main in my sources.list?
[07:23] <frank_> anyone know how to make kaffeine videos play 5% brighter all the time? I have to set it manually everytime I open kaffeine
[07:23] <frank_> for some reason, the upgrade to dapper caused videos to darken
[07:23] <coreymon77> because it when i run apt-get update the site i added is not showing
[07:23] <damien_> thanks will try that DaSkreech
[07:24] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Nope
[07:24] <uniq> coreymon77: no.
[07:24] <frank_> coreymon77: it doesn't matter where you put it. as long as it's not commented out (no # in front)
[07:24] <coreymon77> why isnt is showing up in the list when i run apt-get update
[07:24] <coreymon77>  i looked through the output
[07:25] <coreymon77> never does it say
[07:25] <coreymon77> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[07:25] <frank_> coreymon77: not sure. It should work
[07:25] <coreymon77> is it a problem that it is not showing
[07:26] <coreymon77> this is what it does say
[07:26] <Child4Christ> how do i install the latest gnome and xfce desktops like in ubuntu and xubuntu?
[07:26] <LjL> sudo aptitude install (x)kubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <Child4Christ> (x)?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: press Full upgrade then preview files to see if you get a new KDE
[07:27] <LjL> sorry - i meant sudo aptitude install (x)ubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <LjL> meaning either ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[07:28] <Child4Christ> oh, ty :)
[07:28] <uniq> child4christ: xubuntu-desktop for xubuntu and ubuntu-desktop for gnome. And kubuntu-desktop for kubuntu
[07:28] <Hawkwind> LjL: Will that install xubuntu over top of Kubuntu or how does that work ?
[07:28] <coreymon77> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[07:28] <v3ctor> (k|x|ed)ubuntu
[07:28] <uniq> hawkwind: you can have all three installed at once.
[07:28] <v3ctor> you don't actuall put (x)
[07:28] <LjL> Hawkwind: what you said. when you login, you'll be able to choose which desktop to use from the Options menu
[07:28] <uniq> hawkwind: you can choose the session type in KDM/GDM.
[07:29] <LjL> Hawkwind: also, upon installation, it will ask whether you want to use GDM, KDM or XDM as the default display manager
[07:29] <coreymon77> ljl: i type that and it says bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[07:29] <Hawkwind> Ahhh ok.  I'm used to just installing xfce in Mandriva like urpmi xfce4 so I guess this is basically the same
[07:29] <Child4Christ> btw if anyone asks how to install java on kubuntu beta 2, it doesnt seem to work, they should upgrade to release ver for it ^-^
[07:29] <LjL> coreymon77: as we said --- type *either* "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" (for gnome) *or* "sudo aptitude-install xubuntu-desktop" (for xfce)
[07:30] <coreymon77> ljl: i have Kubuntu though
[07:30] <LjL> coreymon77: yes...?
[07:30] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[07:30] <MetaMorfoziS> Sysinfo for 'macisajt': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: mobileAMDAthlonXP-M2000+ at 1459 MHz (2920 bogomips), , RAM: 183/186MB, 79 proc's, 1.33h up
[07:30] <MetaMorfoziS> what is bogomips?
[07:30] <McNutella> im looking for an Amiga theme for my KDE desktop, any ideas anyone ?
[07:30] <LjL> McNutella: try kde-look.org
[07:31] <v3ctor> bogomips = bogus millions of instructrions per second
[07:31] <Child4Christ> fluxbox is good
[07:31] <McNutella> is it quite simple to install them themes? LjL
[07:31] <MetaMorfoziS> thx!
[07:31] <LjL> McNutella: don't see much though
[07:31] <coreymon77> what is xubuntu?
[07:31] <LjL> McNutella: not always
[07:31] <v3ctor> xubuntu = xfce ubuntu
[07:31] <Child4Christ> ubuntu with Xfce for older computers
[07:31] <admiral_proFTW> coreymon77, its ubuntu with a different enviroment
[07:31] <McNutella> i got a nice theme in gnome, doubt I can use them
[07:31] <LjL> coreymon77: ubuntu with xfce
[07:32] <admiral_proFTW> i dont like xfce
[07:32] <v3ctor> i like xfce
[07:32] <McNutella> i like nutella
[07:32] <LjL> McNutella: just install UAE and use that ;-)
[07:32] <admiral_proFTW> bah too much like windows
[07:32] <Child4Christ> think i used it once on dreamlinux, was aight but not as good as kde ^-^
[07:32] <LjL> admiral_proFTW: how's it more like windows than gnome is?
[07:32] <coreymon77> how do i upgrade my kde desktop to 3.5.3 is Kubuntu
[07:32] <McNutella> ljl there is always that, but thats a project for next month.. I already have two amigas, I just like the way they look at "just work" ;)
[07:33] <coreymon77> and keep it as Kubuntu
[07:33] <v3ctor> admiral_proFTW: i think you may have it conused with icewm
[07:33] <admiral_proFTW> i was under the impression it was laid out to be like windows to help Windows used to switch
[07:33] <admiral_proFTW> coreymon77, sudo apt-get update
[07:33] <McNutella> whats windows?
[07:33] <admiral_proFTW> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:33] <admiral_proFTW> might have to restart KDE
[07:33] <LjL> McNutella: my personal opinion is that using an amiga-like theme on gnome or kde would be being unfair to both amigaos and kde/gnome...
[07:34] <coreymon77> admiral: i have been told NEVER to use apt-get upgrade
[07:34] <McNutella> LjL,  I already have the close button on the left side on KDE coz im used to it that way, and the min/max on the otherside, minus anyother button
[07:34] <admiral_proFTW> coreymon77, WHO TOLD YOU THAT?
[07:34] <admiral_proFTW> they're stupid
[07:34] <LjL> apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:34] <admiral_proFTW> very very stupid
[07:34] <LjL> admiral_proFTW: anyway, you need to add the 3.5.3 repository first
[07:34] <admiral_proFTW> coreymon77, what version of ubuntu
[07:35] <admiral_proFTW> i take back the xfce
[07:35] <admiral_proFTW> had it confused
[07:35] <leafwiz> If I might ask... What's wrong with this: mount -t smbfs -o username="moviebox" //10.0.5.124/movies/ /media/movie_movies/   , No kernel support for smb?
[07:35] <LjL> leafwiz: use "-t cifs", not "-t smbfs"
[07:36] <LjL> smbfs is deprecated
[07:37] <coreymon77> admiral: i just upgraded to the newest dapper lts an hour ago
[07:37] <coreymon77> and doesnt using apt-get upgrade f**k up your system
[07:37] <LjL> McNutella: i have the windows gadgets set up that way too, but that's a different matter (i'm actually using an OS X-like theme for window gadgets, but only because it's nice enough)
[07:37] <admiral_proFTW> coreymon77, NO
[07:37] <admiral_proFTW> not at all
[07:37] <LjL> dist-upgrade *is* generally a better idea though
[07:38] <admiral_proFTW> unless there is not distro to update to
[07:38] <mneisen> hello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200.
[07:38] <McNutella> ljl and logical.. no point putting close beside anything else, just click it by mistake (at times)
[07:38] <mneisen> What to do now?
[07:38] <LjL> admiral_proFTW: uh? dist-upgrade works very well even if there is no specific "new" distro.
[07:38] <admiral_proFTW> reallt
[07:38] <LjL> admiral_proFTW: i just used dist-upgrade to simply download the new security updates. always did.
[07:38] <admiral_proFTW> i thought it was just for distrobutions
[07:39] <LjL> McNutella: agreed.
[07:39] <admiral_proFTW> LjL, oh well thanks for the word
[07:39] <admiral_proFTW> I always do apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[07:39] <LjL> admiral_proFTW: dist-upgrade simply tries to be smarter than simple upgrade. on the other hand, simple upgrade doesn't necessarly ruin your system, that's for sure.
[07:40] <LjL> even better is using aptitude ;9
[07:40] <admiral_proFTW> point is, coreymon77 whoever told you not to do and upgrade was stupid
[07:40] <admiral_proFTW> it doesnt mess up your sysytem
[07:40] <profoXP> is something wrong with amarok in k/ubuntu, because i cant play wma streams anymore, i could play them before, and i think i have the needed codecs, i use the xine backend
[07:41] <uniq> admiral_proftw: dist-upgrade is a smarter version of upgrade. upgrade will simply upgrade the currently installed packages to the newest version available. dist-upgrade can do more advanced stuff.
[07:41] <mneisen> profoXP: You might need to install windows codecs
[07:41] <profoXP> mneisen, i have added extra repositories and i think that i downloaded the needed codecs, what would i need ?
[07:42] <admiral_proFTW> uniq, well i usually only need to update packages, so i guess that works for my purposes
[07:42] <profoXP> mneisen, it sucks that some sites are only optimised for flash8/proprietary media formats :/
[07:42] <mneisen> profoXP: have a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28formats%29%7C%28restricted%29#head-68524fab57e2285050069d6845f95415f8ec8404 .
[07:44] <profoXP> mneisen, thank you, lets see
[07:46] <mneisen> hello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200. What shall I do now? Anyone else has the same problems?
[07:46] <admiral_proFTW> !wireless
[07:46] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[07:46] <Rede> occasionally my wifi cuts out and i have to reboot my computer to restart it. is there a way i can restart my networking without a reboot?
[07:46] <admiral_proFTW> mneisen, check that out
[07:46] <hele> Same with my acx wlan card
[07:47] <Rede> i had the same problem on fc4, but id manually installed the wifi, so i knew how to restart the networking :\
[07:47] <hele> rede: Start to old kernel, it works for me
[07:47] <h3sp4wn> sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1 (presuming you are using wpa_supplicant and configuring from /etc/network/interfaces)
[07:48] <mneisen> admiral_proFTW: Thanks for the pointers, but I might not have made myself completely clear: I used to work until this morning when I upgraded to a new kernel.
[07:48] <Rede> hele: i only have the default kernel installed
[07:48] <mneisen> hele: I might try that, but then, I want to use an up-to-date kernel.
[07:48] <kosh> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   should restart all the network interfaces
[07:48] <LjL> McNutella: apt-cache show windowlab
[07:49] <profoXP> mneisen, back in the days, when i had an ipw2200 it stopped working too after kernel upgrade, I just had to wait until it got fixed (and use an older kernel in the meantime)
[07:49] <mneisen> profoXP: Thanks for this insightful tip.
[07:49] <profoXP> mneisen, ipw2200 is the most used WLAN so it will probably get fixed soon, if its a problem like that
[07:49] <mneisen> profoXP: Then I will reboot into the old kernel.
[07:49] <mneisen> cu
[07:49] <profoXP> mneisen, wait
[07:50] <McNutella> ljl, unable to show package windowlab ?
[07:50] <profoXP> mneisen, does dmesg tell you anything? oh hes gone
[07:52] <LjL> !info windowlab
[07:52] <ubotu> windowlab: (Small and simple Amiga-like window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.33-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 148 kB
[07:52] <LjL> McNutella: i bet you don't have universe enabled
[07:53] <McNutella> ljl I bet I do :P
[07:53] <LjL> McNutella: then i bet your system's broken :-)
[07:53] <McNutella> i bet its just me
[07:53] <McNutella> which universe we talking about ljl ?
[07:53] <LjL> the Universe repository
[07:53] <LjL> !universe
[07:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[07:54] <McNutella> yeah thats what I thought..
[07:56] <Child4Christ> just wonderin, if i install and run an ircd will i have to puch a hole in my box to allow connections?
[07:57] <Child4Christ> why im on Kubuntu, DesktopBSD wouldnt allow the connections
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> For desktopbsd you probably just needed a pf rule to allow the connections
[07:57] <uniq> child4christ: check firewalls and such. you can check that the ircd listens on the correct ports with 'sudo netstat -lpAinet'
[07:58] <Child4Christ> is it hard changing the iptables manually?
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> There is no iptables rules by default
[07:58] <uniq> there is no firewall by default afaik.
[07:58] <Child4Christ> so im unprotected right now?
[07:59] <Child4Christ> thats sounds nice lol
[07:59] <Child4Christ> sorry for the bad humor, lack of sleep
[07:59] <uniq> your problem is probably a cable modem or a router.
[08:00] <Child4Christ> i really should be in bed but my cats taken it
[08:00] <Child4Christ> my isp doesnt stop me running servers cause i had one running on windows
[08:00] <McNutella> idiot LOL
[08:00] <McNutella> root___ that is
[08:01] <Child4Christ> is he runnin irc as root?
[08:01] <Child4Christ> i never really understood why its such a bad thing
[08:02] <uniq> mcnutella: that doesn't mean he is an idiot. please respect the fact that this is a support channel. Not a "I'm better than you"-channel. Thanks :)
[08:02] <dergringo> :)
[08:03] <uniq> child4christ: root is mainly for maintainance and  system administration. Running anything as root, besides what's needed, is bad security practice.
[08:04] <Child4Christ> ran windows till i got the internet, linux is hard but fun ^-^
[08:04] <McNutella> slap my wrists
[08:06] <profoXP> I installed k/ubuntu next to archlinux, i forgot to save my old grub, and ubuntu didnt detect arch, can i still access the old menu.lst, because i mounted the partition, but i'm not allowed to go into /boot of that partition, otherwise i have to figure out where exactly archlinux resides (i can figure it out, but it would be easier and more fulfilling if i could fix this issue)
[08:07] <Pizmar> Why won't my icons on my desktop align themselves to the grid? I have the option enabled!!!
[08:09] <Scorpmoon> after loading kubuntu up (white scrolling text) i get a switch to black console, and then switch back to kubuntu logo, with the progress bar
[08:09] <Scorpmoon> there it stops
[08:09] <Scorpmoon> i burned the cd twice
[08:10] <Child4Christ> might have been a bad download, some data might have been corrupt
[08:10] <Child4Christ> could try a different mirror for the download
[08:10] <Child4Christ> or did you already do that?
[08:10] <Scorpmoon> no, the data looks fine from windows
[08:11] <Child4Christ> what speed did you burn at?
[08:11] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to x as a user but i can start x as root, helpppppl
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> low! 8x
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> i was told to try that yesterday
[08:11] <Child4Christ> that as slow as it will go?
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> yes
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> so i guess kubuntu is not for me?
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> i did ctrl alt F1
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> what can I write to start up manually?
[08:11] <Child4Christ> your hardware might not be supported, display anyways
[08:12] <Scorpmoon> ati card..
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> Have you tried the alternative cd
[08:12] <Scorpmoon> no, i want simple install or none :)
[08:12] <heinkel_111> anyone know how to do adjust the size of toolbar icons etc in dapper drake
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> (or alternate can't remember which it is)
[08:12] <heinkel_111> ?
[08:12] <uniq> scorpmoon: login with your username and password. try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart'
[08:12] <heinkel_111> i like my larger breezy icons better
[08:12] <Scorpmoon> its live cd, i have no username yet :)
[08:12] <Child4Christ> using the alt cd sounds good
[08:13] <Scorpmoon> uniq, nop still stops
[08:13] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to x as a user but i can start x as root, helpppppl
[08:13] <profoXP> Scorpmoon, special hardware? laptop? graphics card?
[08:13] <Scorpmoon> amd64 desktop, ati x800xl
[08:13] <Scorpmoon> i don't see anything special
[08:13] <Child4Christ> did you download the 64 ver?
[08:13] <Scorpmoon> yep
[08:13] <Child4Christ> or the x86
[08:14] <profoXP> :)
[08:14] <Scorpmoon> x64
[08:14] <profoXP> hmmm /me doesnt know
[08:14] <Child4Christ> try the alternate cd like h3sp4wn suggested
[08:14] <profoXP> i only know about problems with laptops (broken bioses etc) but thats mostly at very beginning (while uncompressing kernel)
[08:14] <Scorpmoon> i aint gonna :) Ubuntu works
[08:14] <Scorpmoon> i just wanted to compare
[08:14] <profoXP> yes, make him download another cd lol
[08:15] <profoXP> Scorpmoon, well.. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:15] <profoXP> :P
[08:15] <profoXP> ubuntu and kubuntu arent too different
[08:15] <profoXP> they are built on the same stuff
[08:15] <andreas_> hello! in my konqueror windows, the "Window" menu is gone and nowhere to be seen. Any ideas how I can get it back?
[08:15] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl
[08:16] <Scorpmoon> mkay.. just gotta try opensuse and pcbsd before I put my bets on Ubuntu, final decision :)
[08:16] <Child4Christ> pcbsd isnt as good as its pegged
[08:16] <Child4Christ> last time i used it it wasnt exactally any good
[08:16] <profoXP> andreas_, are you in the video group ?
[08:17] <profoXP> (dont know for sure if there is a video group in ubuntu)
[08:17] <xwolf-> is it possible to run Qemu here in kubuntu to boot my windows installation in /dev/hda1?
[08:17] <profoXP> (there is)
[08:17] <andreas_> profoXP: ahum, let me check
[08:17] <andreas_> why would it matter?
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> qemu is seriously slow (unless you have a massively powerful computer
[08:18] <profoXP> andreas_, are you in the video group? (type: groups username)
[08:18] <Pizmar> hey hey, i got a question!!
[08:18] <andreas_> profoXP: yes, I am
[08:18] <xwolf-> h3sp4wn how's a pentium 4 2.8ghz good for it?
[08:18] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, kqemu module will optimize it and will even support full virtualisation AFTER the inital installation of the OS
[08:18] <Pizmar> So, when I double click on my mp3s, and beep opens them, it won't play... If I drag the icon into the playlist it will...
[08:18] <profoXP> xwolf-, I think it would be hard to boot an existing windows install in qemu
[08:19] <Pizmar> When I view track details, and look at name
[08:19] <xwolf-> really? i thought it could.
[08:19] <profoXP> xwolf-, I'm not saying its impossible, but I never heard about it (I wnated to do it myself a few weeks ago for school)
[08:19] <Pizmar> If I double clicked it, it will say home/user/mp3name
[08:19] <profoXP> xwolf-, maybe it can be done, I'm not sure, if you find out how, let me know ;)
[08:19] <xwolf-> k
[08:19] <Pizmar> but if i dragged it, it says the full directory name
[08:19] <Pizmar> they are on my windows partition by the way
[08:20] <wonbond> which folder is kdm installed in?
[08:20] <coreymon77> guys
[08:20] <profoXP> xwolf-, anyway, qemu is pretty slow whatever system you have, but when you use the kqemu kernel module it will go faster, installation of an OS in qemu is always slow because it doesnt support full virtualisation, only when the OS is up and running you can enable full virtualisation (the kqemu module will do that) if you provide an option
[08:20] <wonbond> which folder is kdm installed in?
[08:21] <coreymon77> whenever i go into knooueror
[08:21] <coreymon77> konqueror*
[08:21] <coreymon77> and try to go to my media folder
[08:21] <profoXP> xwolf-, and full virtualisation is faster (can be compared to vmware's speed, not super fast, but its workable)
[08:21] <xwolf-> profoXP the whole idea was to copy a few files from my linux partition to the winblows' one :>
[08:21] <coreymon77> it gives me an error saying "The KDE mediamanager is not running"
[08:21] <coreymon77> what does that mean
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: kqemu ? have you built debs for the kernel module ? - How fast is it in comparison to vmware ?
[08:22] <coreymon77> what is the kde media manager
[08:22] <coreymon77> and why arent things working
[08:22] <Pizmar> Anyone care to answer my question?
[08:22] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, err.. i use(d) it on my archlinux box really, i dont know about a .deb
[08:22] <xwolf-> coreymon77 breezy? dapper?
[08:22] <coreymon77> xwolf: dapper lts
[08:22] <xwolf-> dont know then.
[08:22] <coreymon77> i just updated a coulple hours ago
[08:22] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, it is almost as fast as vmware right now, a month ago it was alot slower, but kqemu supports a full virtualisation option now
[08:23] <coreymon77> anyone know what the KDE mediamanager is?
[08:23] <h3sp4wn> pofoXP: Can kqemu accelerate mips emulation or just x86 ?
[08:23] <profoXP> "Enable full virtualization mode for best performances. This mode only works with the following guest OSes: Linux 2.4, Linux 2.6, Windows 2000 and Windows XP. WARNING: for Windows 2000/XP, you cannot use it during installation."
[08:23] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, i think only x86
[08:24] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, KQEMU is supported on x86 or x86_64 Linux 2.4 or 2.6 hosts. Experimental versions are available for FreeBSD and Windows NT/2000/2003/XP.
[08:24] <profoXP> kqemu only works on x86 or x86_64, but i dont know what it can accelerate
[08:24] <Pizmar> So when I double click my mp3s, beep media player opens, but won't play the file. when i view the file info, it shows the directory as home/user/desktop/file which is incorrect... If i drag them into the playlist it shows the correct path, and will play.
[08:25] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: Its not a mips host though I want just mips client
[08:26] <highvoltage> hi there. k3b only detects my dvd recorder as a cd-rom drive, it says that my drive can't record cd's or dvd's.
[08:26] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: I will investigate that kernel accelerator
[08:26] <highvoltage> any idea on what i can do to fix that?
[08:26] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, i guess it can only accelerate x86 because afaik thats the point of kqemu, it can only accelerate what the host is running (I think)
[08:27] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, heres some info (on official site) http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/kqemu-doc.html
[08:27] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl
[08:27] <Child4Christ> bbiab
[08:27] <profoXP> When KQEMU runs in full virtualization mode, both guest kernel and user code are executed directly on the host CPU.
[08:30] <Pizmar> So when I double click my mp3s, beep media player opens, but won't play the file. when i view the file info, it shows the directory as home/user/desktop/file which is incorrect... If i drag them into the playlist it shows the correct path, and will play.
[08:31] <profoXP> Pizmar, probably beep's fault.. but i dont use it
[08:31] <uniq> pizmar: please don't repeat your question that often. If someone know they will help you. You don't have to ask again every 5 min. Thanks. :)
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: I am building the sid sources now (on dapper)
[08:31] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, for kqemu ? grea
[08:31] <profoXP> t
[08:31] <Pizmar> Well, this happens with every media player
[08:32] <Pizmar> Including amarok
[08:32] <Pizmar> but not Kaffeine
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: First I need to get a later version of qemu first - I think I will just do the kqemu manually
[08:33] <Pizmar> So mp3s work just fine on everyone else's computer?
[08:33] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> how are you starting X ?
[08:33] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, oh ok
[08:34] <profoXP> Pizmar, oh.. strange..
[08:34] <Pizmar> Maybe I'll try the forums
[08:34] <profoXP> Pizmar, i dont seem to have the problem, where are the files then? (if they are not at /home/.../desktop/...)
[08:35] <Pizmar> Well, in media/hda1/blah blah/Music
[08:35] <Pizmar> even if i copy one to desktop and double click it, the same thing happens
[08:35] <terminet> hi folk
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: It needs qemu 0.81 to be used - I may build kqemu properly but it wouldn't be much use to anyone else because I run 2.6.16
[08:36] <terminet> Can you help me, guys?
[08:36] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, bah, install a .15 kernel and build for that too ;)
[08:36] <uniq> terminet: please ask your question and we'll see :)
[08:36] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, i cant build now, because my "package/development laptop" is broken
[08:36] <profoXP> im using replacement hardware
[08:37] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl
[08:38] <terminet> uniq: tnx ;) I've a strange problem, games an applications aren't fluid, but if press any key or mouse it's work right (I'm sorry for my english ;/)
[08:38] <PyroMithrandir> wonbond, have you tried logging in with any other normal user accounts?
[08:39] <wonbond> PyroMithrandir: i only have one user account
[08:40] <DaSkreech> Scorpmoon: The alternate Cd is pretty simple
[08:40] <PyroMithrandir> wonbond, you should make another to see if it is a problem only for the one user
[08:41] <Scorpmoon> its just, i want to try it out before install
[08:41] <wonbond> PyroMithrandir:ill try , ty
[08:41] <DaSkreech> andreas_: Try Ctrl+M
[08:42] <terminet> no idea? :(
[08:42] <gsuveg> re
[08:42] <highvoltage> i found my dvd problem. I had the wrong dvd drive plugged in. d'oh!
[08:42] <Blissex> highvoltage: if everything else, check the cable :-)
[08:42] <gsuveg> how can i put crypt with konqerror ?
[08:43] <profoXP> highvoltage, lol? the wrong hardware in your pc you mean?
[08:43] <DaSkreech> wonbond: which kdm
[08:43] <highvoltage> Blissex: that's what i did. I thought I should try a newer IDE cable, and when I wanted to plug it in, i noticed that my older dvd-rom, which is mostly forgotten, was still plugged in there ;)
[08:43] <cgeo> guys can anybody help me. for no apparent reason i cannot load x windows manager
[08:44] <Blissex> highvoltage: hehehehe. :-)
[08:44] <cgeo> i can only get konsole
[08:44] <highvoltage> profoXP: nope, i had an older drive in my pc that i forgot about. it camoflages with the black casing :)
[08:44] <Blissex> cgeo: we are sorry, but all our clairvoyant and telepathic advisors are busy on other lines :-)
[08:44] <wonbond> DaSkreech: the latest kde, 64bit kubuntu
[08:44] <profoXP> highvoltage, ;) oh
[08:45] <profoXP> hey, erm.. "/dev/hda3 /media/arch ext3 defaults,user_xattr,umask=0222 0 2" gives me: EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "umask=0222" or missing value
[08:45] <profoXP> , on ubuntu
[08:45] <profoXP> why doenst umask work ?
[08:46] <cgeo> Blissex yeah i know but i just can;t show you my xorg.conf here can i ???
[08:46] <Blissex> cgeo: what usually really matters is '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'. Check lines with "(EE)" in them, and the last 20 lines or so for errors.
[08:46] <profoXP> cgeo, http://ubuntu.pastebin.org
[08:47] <profoXP> .com
[08:47] <profoXP> damn
[08:47] <profoXP> cgeo, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:50] <profoXP> can anyone please test if playing the stream "mms://wm.streampower.be/4fm" works in Amarok ? it used to work on archlinux, but i cant get it to work on ubuntu
[08:51] <cgeo> Yeah, alraedy did that. it says "No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth"
[08:51] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: That is loads better (appart from the massive amount of dependancy problems I now have)
[08:51] <cgeo> Screen(s) found, but none has a usable configuration
[08:52] <cgeo> i changed to depth from 24 to 8 but still nothing
[08:52] <Mitja> I've used "update-rc.d <name> defaults" to set a startup script from /etc/init.d. The script was copied to many rc levels. Does it get executed as many times as the levels at booting or just once?
[08:53] <andreas_> DaSkreech: isn't that for showing/hiding the menubar?
[08:53] <andreas_> either way, no change
[08:53] <uniq> mitja: just once.
[08:53] <profoXP> cgeo, change it back to 24 :) thats not the problem, paste your Xorg.0.log with the lines containing (EE) on http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:53] <andreas_> :(
[08:53] <Mitja> It's not working then. What am I missing?
[08:53] <terminet> profoXP: work ;)
[08:54] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, what dep problems ?
[08:54] <Mitja> It has #!/bin/sh at the top...
[08:54] <profoXP> terminet, oh. damn. using default amarok or the 1.4 version ? (from alternative repo)
[08:54] <cgeo> ok.just a sec profoXP
[08:54] <profoXP> I could try out the official 1.3.x one
[08:54] <uniq> mitja: did you make it yourself?
[08:54] <Mitja> uniq, yes
[08:55] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: I need to somehow build sparc-utils (in order to build proll)
[08:55] <terminet> 1.3.9
[08:55] <uniq> mitja: did you make sure it accepts start and stop arguments?
[08:55] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, pff no idea.. in arch building goes kinda automatically with ABS :P
[08:55] <Mitja> Is that something I have to put inside it?
[08:55] <profoXP> (one thing where arch is really strong)
[08:55] <uniq> mitja: use /etc/init.d/skelton as a template.
[08:56] <DaSkreech> andreas_: Sorry what was the problem?
[08:56] <terminet> profoXP: Have you any idea for my problem?
[08:57] <Ayabara> I just installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu and set kdm as default. when I booted I got the kubuntu login screen, but after I logged in it went back to ubuntu. any ideas?
[08:57] <uniq> ayabara: select KDE from the sessions list in KDM.
[08:58] <Mitja> uniq, thanks
[08:58] <Ayabara> uniq: thanks, should've known that...
[08:58] <profoXP> terminet, what problem
[08:58] <terminet>  I've a strange problem, games an applications aren't fluid, but if press any key or mouse it's work right (I'm sorry for my english ;/)
[08:59] <Mitja> uniq, but I don't have any daemon, I just want 2 simple commands to get executed
[08:59] <andreas_> DaSkreech: the "Window" menuitem in the menubar is gone (in Konqueror)
[08:59] <terminet> I'm using flgrx with ati x700
[08:59] <DaSkreech> Oh Yeah
[08:59] <profoXP> terminet, i would say its haunted :/
[08:59] <DaSkreech> What about it?
[08:59] <andreas_> I have no idea when it disappered because I haven't had a use for it before
[09:00] <profoXP> terminet, I ran fglrx + x700 on my old laptop, it worked fine
[09:00] <DaSkreech> Right so what do you want to do now?
[09:00] <uniq> mitja: put them in /etc/rc.local
[09:00] <andreas_> DaSkreech: well, I want to get it back :)
[09:00] <DaSkreech> For asethic purposes?
[09:00] <Mitja> uniq, that's all? no update-rc.d ?
[09:01] <terminet> uff dude do you use xorg 7.0 ?
[09:01] <andreas_> DaSkreech: no, I need the split window and the "Tool views"
[09:01] <McNutella> like ubuntus gconfig, what is KDEs variables configurator ?
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+Shift+T For horizontal and Ctrl+Shift+L for vertical
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+Shift+R to close the one you are currently focused on
[09:02] <andreas_> DaSkreech: I appreciate it, but the problem is the menuitem - I want it, not a compromise :)
[09:03] <DaSkreech> andreas_: Ahmm Then I think that #kde would be more helpful right now :)
[09:03] <zym0tic> Hi people, since I have kubuntu 6.06 my network browsing isn't working anymore. opening network services says: The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running. and browsing samba shares says: the process for the smb://workgroup died unexpectedly
[09:05] <svivian_> andreas_: Try reopening Konq. I found that if I opened it as a web browser, then tried to do file stuff, I lost the tree pane and the tool tabs. If I opened it explicitly for file work, I could access those.
[09:05] <andreas_> svivian_: sorry, no luck
[09:05] <cgeo> guys i am running kubuntu live cd. i also have it installed. can anybvody tell me how to mount / and have access to it through the livecd???
[09:06] <natalie> hi
[09:06] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: I have got it working just used the binary packages from sid for proll and openhackware (I don't think it would be easy to cross compile for sparc and mac respectively and it fixes the dependancies)
[09:07] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:09] <jean-francois> log
[09:10] <fatejudger> is there a changelog for the new kernel patches?
[09:16] <wonbond> i just installed kubuntu 64bit and got the fglrx as root and it wont let me log into kde as a user , only as root from recovery mode , can somone help me
[09:16] <zodo> Hey folks...I keep having an issue where some application (I think amaroK) goes wild on my hard drive, doing something, bringing the whole system to a crawl.  When it happens, is there some command I can run to see what applications are doing what with my HD?
[09:18] <wonbond> zodo there is a app that will catch runaway processes
[09:19] <wonbond> zodo: exept i dont remember the name of it
[09:20] <wonbond> i just installed kubuntu 64bit and got the fglrx as root and it wont let me log into kde as a user , only as root from recovery mode , can somone help me
[09:25] <loanwolf> ? is there away i can use the mutimedia keys on my keyboard
[09:25] <Blissex> loanwolf: yes, but forget about it.
[09:26] <loanwolf> Blissex, what is it that hard..or dont work the best
[09:26] <Blissex> loanwolf: just to explain what you have to do is complicated.
[09:27] <McNutella> any reason why Ktorrent would usually come up with errors, including "tracker is down"
[09:28] <loanwolf> Blissex, ok....i just wanted to use the volume keys with with master channel in kmix
[09:28] <uniq> loanwolf: system settings -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout -> enable keyboard layouts, and select a keyboard model close to yours in the list.
[09:28] <Blissex> loanwolf: hehehehe, they all want to do that :-). Do you know the ''Flying dutchman'' legend? He too wanted to find a way to use his multimedia keys :-)
[09:29] <uniq> blissex: it's not that hard :)
[09:29] <loanwolf> Blissex, nope dont know them
[09:30] <loanwolf> uniq, thank you
[09:30] <Blissex> uniq: depends on how geeky you are :-)
[09:30] <MasterEvilAce> just curious.. how difficult is it to port a Visual C# app to linux?
[09:31] <Scorpmoon> I just made Kubuntu work, it was THIS bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/38649
[09:31] <Scorpmoon> silly little bug
[09:31] <leafwiz>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY heihei
[09:31] <MasterEvilAce> ...
[09:31] <MasterEvilAce> change  your pass now leafwiz
[09:31] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: hehehehe. Depends. If it uses a lot of .NET not good, as to pure C#, very easy.
[09:31] <leafwiz> arg.. :P
[09:31] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: ah, shame :P
[09:33] <Blissex> loanwolf: however, the brief summary is: find and XKB layout that includes your keys, and then bind those keys to even using keyboard shortcuts in KMix or using DCOP.
[09:33] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: however, most port pretty easily.
[09:33] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: so it is most likely worth a try. Even pretty complex ones work OK, as long as they don't do too much DB stuff.
[09:34] <MasterEvilAce> holy crap my screen is getting blurrier every day
[09:34] <MasterEvilAce> what's that before STUFF?
[09:34] <MasterEvilAce> DO?
[09:34] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: BTW, viceversa is usually very easy: if developed on GNU/Linux, it will ''just work'' (usually) on MS Windows.
[09:34] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: CRT monitor?
[09:34] <zodo> I've been monkeying with xmodmap and the xorg conf trying to get my Logitech MX510 mouse working with all of the buttons.  Does anyone know where I can find the order of how xmodmap uses the buttons?  I know what button is what on the mouse...but not where to put them in xmodmap.
[09:35] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: yeah.. i bought it from my friend two years ago maybe. he said it was always sharp. I don't remember the quality when i brought it home.. i just notice that there's a bunch of wavy electromagnetic interference type stuff on my screen. more noticable on solid colors
[09:35] <Blissex> zodo: 'xmodmap' is obsolete...
[09:36] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: ahhhhhhhhhh.
[09:36] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: yeah :-/ i hope i don't need a new monitor
[09:36] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: well, there are two interesting points here.
[09:36] <zodo> Oh...well that would explain my issues, perhaps.  What has it been replaced by?
[09:37] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: first: bad color quality often is a degaussing issue. Try degaussing or just switching the monitor off for 5-10 minutes occasionally.
[09:37] <iNiku> hmm, new kernel
[09:37] <iNiku> or maybe not so new, I haven't updated in a few days
[09:37] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: second, it is amazing how bad an influence on a CRT can be _any_ electrical/electronic stuff in its vicinity, like a radio, a speaker, a mobile phone.
[09:38] <zodo> Its also amazing how big an effect GSM cellphones can have on CRTs.
[09:38] <iNiku> true, for a long time I was able to tell I was getting a call on my mobile several seconds before it actually started ringing, just by looking at my monitors
[09:38] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: finally, many monitors drift in convergence and focus. Most have electronic (if expensive) or mechanical dials (if cheap) convergence/focus regulations.
[09:38] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: yeah, degaussing doesn't have an effect. not a real color problem.. just VERY blurry. the problem is less and less the lower the resolution i use.. however I know that this resolution (1280x1024) is supported.. but it is the blurriest res
[09:39] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: i heard about the focusing thing.. that requires taking the monitor apart though i believe
[09:39] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: depends on the monitor, many have controls for that.
[09:39] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: look at the various options on the OSM.
[09:39] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: yeah there's nothing there for it
[09:39] <svivian_> MasterEvilAce: You don't by chance still have the protective film on the screen (stupid q I know)
[09:40] <MasterEvilAce> svivian_: nope
[09:40] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: also, most CRTs are rather blurry at their highest res. Like 17" are really designed for 1024x768, or at most 1152x864.
[09:40] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: even if 17" can do 1280x1024, thats not what they are designed for...
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> Diamondtron or trinitron crt's look fine at 1600 by 1200
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> (17")
[09:41] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: yeah, i don't remember having a problem a year ago.. but it seems to be getting worse... I think the blur is caused by the wavy crap i'm getting. it's a 19" EPI Envision  EN-980e
[09:41] <Mitja> I'm interested too: what should we use instead of xmodmap?
[09:42] <Blissex> Mitja: well, the horrible answer is XKB, which is both very flexible and very incomprehensible.
[09:42] <Blissex> Mitja: there are (very) few XKB tutorials etc. on the web, that help somehow.
[09:42] <zodo> I was thinking that there must be some sort of easy GUI front end for xmodmap somewhere...maybe for XKB...I just can't find it.
[09:43] <Blissex> Mitja: the XKB config utility is 'setxkbmap' and the KDE frontend for (some) of it is 'kxkb'
[09:45] <Mitja> kxkb won't run, no reason displayed
[09:45] <Mitja> or error thrown
[09:45] <zodo> Is XKB just keyboards, or mice too?
[09:46] <Blissex> zodo: XKB is the keyboard side of XINPUT, which is the new way of doing everything...
[09:46] <Blissex> zodo: or perhaps I am getting confused. :-) But use those keyboards for a search.
[09:48] <wonbond> i just installed kubuntu 64bit and got the fglrx as root and it wont let me log into kde as a user , only as root from recovery mode , can somone help me
[09:48] <Blissex> wonbond: thats probably just an installation mishap, nothing to do with 'fglrx'.
[09:49] <Blissex> wonbond: log in as 'root' and then add yourself as new user. Check '/etc/passwd'.
[09:49] <wonbond> Blissex: i already made a new user from root , but i couldnt log in with that account either
[09:50] <Blissex> wonbond: then check the logs in '/var/log/' as to the reason why.
[09:50] <omega> Hi
[09:50] <omega> Could someone do me a favor and make me a screenshot of the display settings in KDE? Kguidance I think it was called?
[09:51] <omega> I can't find any online.
[09:51] <wonbond> Blissex: which log should i look at?
[09:51] <Blissex> wonbond: the most recently updated, check with 'ls -ltr /var/log'
[09:54] <wonbond> whats the pastebin url?
[09:55] <Blissex> wonbond: guess :-)
[09:55] <wonbond> pastebin.edu?
[09:56] <Blissex> wonbond: hardly .edu :-)
[09:57] <wonbond> Blissex: ok , could you look at it please .  im new , dont really know whats going on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15773
[09:58] <Blissex> wonbond: as to im new fine, but sysadm in either MS Windows and GNU/Linux is hard stuff, so be ware...
[09:59] <Blissex> wonbond: thats the X log, it has nothing to do with login/GDM/KDM issues... Try 'messages' or 'secure' or whatever else your system produces.
[10:01] <wonbond> Blissex: could this be a problem?
[10:01] <wonbond> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[10:01] <wonbond> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/event
[10:01] <wonbond> 	No such file or directory.
[10:02] <Blissex> wonbond: the security policy yes, the event file no (I think).
[10:02] <slicslak> how do i lookup a hostname with an IP address?
[10:03] <wonbond> Blissex: ok , thanks you , i got to run to school
[10:03] <slicslak> nm, host
[10:05] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: oops, completely forgot about you, and yes a 19" should do 1280x1024 nicely.
[10:10] <Ayabara> the media keys on my inspiron 6000 doesn't work in kubuntu, but it works in ubuntu. any help appreciated
[10:11] <D4m4ge> hello
[10:11] <D4m4ge> can someone pastebin his /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[10:11] <D4m4ge> for me*
[10:12] <D4m4ge> grub died :(
[10:12] <uniq> ubotu tell ayabara about kmediakeys
[10:14] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: you have any experience with focusing a monitor? this one site says you can usually take the back of the monitor off and there's an adjustment you can make
[10:14] <Ayabara> uniq: thanks!
[10:14] <uniq> ayabara: happy to help, did it work for you? :)
[10:15] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: yes, some experience, but all monitors that I have used have had an _external_ dial for focus or an OSD setting for it.
[10:15] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: however it could also be convergence...
[10:15] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: anyhow, if you open your monitor, let it rest for around 30-50 minutes after powering it off at least before touching it. It can be _very_ dangerous.
[10:17] <Ayabara> uniq: like a charm I think :-)
[10:17] <cox377> Hello all, i just have a question question. I seem to have a problem.. my desktop crashes whenever i seem to deal with images on the desktop
[10:17] <cox377> would anyone know a test maybe that i could do?
[10:21] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: BTW, found your monitor manuals and some context info: http://www.aocdisplay.com/envision/manuals/EN-980e.pdf
[10:22] <MasterEvilAce> hey thanks, blissex
[10:22] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: the info is that it was a rather low end/cheapo monitor from AOC back from 2001. This kind of cheap-and-cheerful stuff often does not age well.
[10:23] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: however try to reduce brightnesss, often cheap monitors have power regulation problems, and lower brightness makes things easier on the electronics.
[10:24] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce:  if you look at page 11 of the manual, the recommendation for ''fuzzy picture'' is to adjust constrast/brightness, and for waviness is to check electrical stuff nearby.
[10:25] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: also try 1152x864 instead of 1280x1024. Or 1280x1024 at a lower refresh rate, the electronics may be aging and strain to support higher frequencies.
[10:26] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: on the OSD also try setting anti-moire to off or some low value.
[10:27] <MikeMcA> Hi.  I'm a kubuntu noob.  I just tried running init 3 for the first time and it doesn't do anything.  No runlevel switching, but no error message either.  Is init disabled on k/ubuntu or am I missing something here?  Thanks!
[10:27] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: also, now that most companies are switching entirely to LCDs, it is fairly easy to find really good 19" and even 21" monitors in dumpsters/skips. Really.
[10:28] <MasterEvilAce> i think it's definitely the wavyness. i did move my monitor 3 feet in one direction, and if i rotated the monitor left and right, the wavylines actually moved.. but i couldn't move it far enough away to see WHAT was possibly causing interference
[10:28] <Blissex> MikeMcA: in Debian derived distros all usual runlevels do the same...
[10:28] <MasterEvilAce> afk for maybe 5 minutes though
[10:28] <MikeMcA> Blissex: thanks I'll read up on debian runlevels then
[10:29] <MrObvious> Sounds like a magnet is too close to the monitor.
[10:29] <MrObvious> I've seen it before.
[10:29] <skipster23> how can i open or extract a .rpm file
[10:30] <MrObvious> Use an rpm based distro like Red Hat, Fedora, or Mandriva or something. Ubuntu is based on Debian which uses debs. I'm pretty sure you can't use rpms on a deb distro.
[10:30] <nik> skipster23: rpm -i *.rpm on a rpm based system...
[10:31] <skipster23> ok great
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> You can use alien if its a commercial program
[10:32] <h3sp4wn> but you are better off just getting the tar.gz if you can
[10:32] <h3sp4wn> or preferably a deb
[10:32] <skipster23> what about a zip
[10:33] <skipster23> i got it thanks
[10:34] <MrObvious> skipster23: What are you trying to get. Maybe it's on apt-get
[10:35] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: sometimes the PC itself can emit interference that freaks out the CRT, like a specific CPU freq, a chipset or motherboard, a PCI card.
[10:35] <tommy2k4> kubuntu crashed :(
[10:35] <tommy2k4> music stopped playing and monitor just showd just of diff colored vertical lines
[10:36] <tommy2k4> when i rebooted kde gave an error bout a process ended unexpectedly or something and theres no internet connection cos gaim/opera wont connect
[10:38] <fatejudger> Katapult runs VERY slowly when amarok is running
[10:39] <fatejudger> I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that it searches through amarok's song database
[10:39] <fatejudger> is there a way to disable that?
[10:41] <skipster23> does anyone know how to install limewire
[10:41] <LjL> !limewire
[10:41] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[10:42] <skipster23> i did but when i ran the runlime.sh i got errors
[10:43] <skipster23> does frostwire need java
[10:44] <johnflux> Hey all
[10:44] <johnflux> how do I get wmv working in 64bit kubuntu?
[10:44] <johnflux> I downloaded the codecs, downloaded mplayer-386...
[10:44] <johnflux> now what? :)
[10:45] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: BTW, disappointing review of your monitor: http://pcworld.about.com/news/Oct302001id68707.htm You get no convergence or focus controls
[10:45] <Blissex> johnflux: now cry :-).
[10:45] <johnflux> Blissex: i guessed so
[10:46] <Blissex> johnflux: the codecs are 32 bit only.
[10:46] <johnflux> right
[10:46] <Blissex> johnflux: so you must use them with 32 bit programs.
[10:46] <johnflux> right
[10:46] <johnflux> so I have mplayer-386 ;)
[10:46] <Blissex> johnflux: thats not totally trivial to arrange.
[10:46] <skipster23> ubotu: when i type java -version it tells me i have java v 1.4.2
[10:46] <ubotu> skipster23: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:47] <Blissex> johnflux: you need all its dependencies, and configure everything right. Again, not totally trivial to arrange. There mau be a tutorial/HOWTO on the wiki.
[10:47] <cox377> Is there anyway to change the icon of a program once you have opened it. For instance firefox is a blue globe once open but i manual changed the icon on the start menu
[10:47] <Blissex> cox377: they are different icons...
[10:47] <KuLover> Why is it that every tim, during boot, during the graphical progress bar, it hangs at "Checking all filesystems", then switches to text boot and goes about everything normaly.
[10:47] <cox377> blissex: is there anyway to change them?
[10:48] <fatejudger> KuLover: does it say it's checking your filesystem for errors?
[10:48] <fatejudger> KuLover: or something to that effect
[10:48] <KuLover> No, just says [ok] 
[10:48] <fatejudger> weird
[10:48] <KuLover> Should I boot in repair mode and see what it says?
[10:49] <Blissex> well, the icon that the program presents to the window manager is specified by the program, not the shortcut that points to the program. So you need to find a way to tell the window manager to use a different icon or tell the program to present another one.
[10:49] <cox377> Hmmm
[10:49] <cox377> does anyone know how to do that
[10:50] <cox377> sorry a difficult questions
[10:50] <KuLover> Right click the K, clcik edit menu, find firefox in the list, clcik the icon, then browse to the one you'd like.
[10:52] <cox377> that onlyt changes the applications launch icon and not the icon displayed once the application is open doesnt it?
[10:52] <shocktrooper1> how can I update my menu.lst to read winxp on hdb1 instead of ubuntu?
[10:53] <KuLover> cox377, YOu mean the icon in the menu?
[10:53] <scott> hi all
[10:53] <cox377> when you open an app and it's sitting open it shall saying like firefox with a little blue globe left of the txt.. well i wanna change that ikon
[10:54] <scott> installing kubuntu 6.06 using the alternate cd... installation locks with blank screen at about 60% just after the x* packages, ... any ideas to get past this?
[10:54] <Blissex> cox377: that is the icon that the window manager uses.
[10:54] <cox377> is there anyway to change that?
[10:54] <Blissex> cox377: usually the app sends it to the window manager, or else it depends on the window manager.
[10:55] <KuLover> Im not sure about that because I installed Firefox myself. You probably have to do to the install directory and edit the firfox app there.
[10:55] <chavo> cox377, the firefox icons is in /usr/share/firefox/chrome/icons/default.xpm
[10:55] <chavo> cox377, for most other apps the icons is chabged by the icon theme
[10:56] <cox377> cheers chavo
[10:57] <cox377> can i just download a differnet firefox.xpm from google and replace that one?
[10:58] <brandon_> did yesterday's updates fix the screensaver issues?
[11:02] <fatejudger> brandon_: did you have problems with the screensaver not coming on?
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> How important is the speed option in pppd script ?
[11:02] <Tommy2k4> how can i make it auto login without having to enter password on boot
[11:03] <brandon_> fatejudger: from what i've read, everybody did
[11:07] <scott> loss of video during install, just after it installs x, any ideas, i haven't been able to find anything useful in the forums
[11:09] <jwat> what media player does everyone use to play wmv files and embedded videos.  Ex: metacafe.com
[11:09] <jwat> ???
[11:10] <omega> kaffeine has a plugin for that doesn't it?
[11:12] <jwat> what plugin might that be?
[11:12] <omega> one for mozilla I think.
[11:13] <CaBlGuY> whats the base package I need to install for gstreamer?
[11:13] <omega> jwat; http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=86937&package_id=118133
[11:15] <|lostbyte|> libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 and libgstreamer0.10-0 i guess..
[11:15] <|lostbyte|> and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[11:15] <CaBlGuY> that's for the base app.. right?
[11:15] <jwat> is the package listed in Adept not the most current version?
[11:16] <|lostbyte|> CaBlGuY, I installed that mainly for amarok for mp3 support.
[11:16] <geneo91> wow gates quit
[11:16] <CaBlGuY> Oh, well, im wanting gstreamer itself..
[11:16] <CaBlGuY> !gstreamer
[11:16] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[11:16] <apokryphos> geneo91: interesting, yeah
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> lolz..
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> Any one on DSL ?
[11:17] <scott> 6.06 alternate install locks up and loss of video just after installing the x packages, any ideas to get past this?
[11:17] <geneo91> apokryphos:  any idea why this thing has changed my nick
[11:17] <CaBlGuY> well crap...  :/
[11:18] <apokryphos> geneo91: not sure what you mean .You can change nick, though, by: /nick someothernick
[11:18] <CaBlGuY> scott:  what do you mean by "alternate"...  u mean the base install?
[11:18] <geneo91> well even on other dapper install and not just #ubuntu channels
[11:18] <scott> using the alternate cd
[11:19] <CaBlGuY> scott:  ok, so your installin the base systrem then.  Ummmm  and it locks up after the xpackage install..
[11:19] <johnflux> which is newer, breezy or warty?
[11:19] <CaBlGuY> johnflux:  dapper
[11:19] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[11:19] <apokryphos> johnflux: warty was the first ever release of Ubuntu.
[11:19] <LjL> johnflux: dapper > breezy > hoary > warty
[11:19] <johnflux> CaBlGuY: that wasn't on the option list :P
[11:19] <scott> yes, i believe it occurs just as it tries to initiate the last part of the install when it goes to the graphical interface
[11:19] <johnflux> thanks
[11:20] <CaBlGuY> johnflux:  I know, ...  :p
[11:20] <geneo91> warty was first
[11:20] <scott> i wonder who thinks of all the names?
[11:20] <scott> :)
[11:20] <scott> they had to be smokin
[11:20] <LjL> the crazy cook
[11:20] <geneo91> some animal
[11:21] <geneo91> some kinda hog
[11:21] <CaBlGuY> scott:  havfe u tried burning the iso again?
[11:21] <apokryphos> scott: all on Shuttleworth's whim
[11:21] <CaBlGuY> *have
[11:21] <scott> CaBlGuY: yes, i sure have, twice actually, the cd checks out ok
[11:21] <CaBlGuY> scott:  well then.  could be some bad video then..  what card ya got?
[11:21] <orgulloKmoore> Hello. Does anyone have some advice on how I could get my macromedia flash player for Firefox to produce sound? It does video, but no audio. Other programs produce sound, though.
[11:22] <scott> hmm good question... whatever is standard in the dell dimension 2400
[11:22] <CaBlGuY> orgulloKmoore:  well, it's probably playin unsupported versions..  that's why video only and no sound...
[11:22] <CaBlGuY> scott:  EEEwWWwwwwWWw    a dell.....
[11:22] <CaBlGuY> :p
[11:23] <orgulloKmoore> CaBlGuY, and how might I fix that. I'm trying to watch videos on youtube.com
[11:23] <scott> don't laugh at me :P it's the only one i have
[11:23] <scott> hopefully a new one next month though
[11:23] <CaBlGuY> scott:  I would start with your video card and go form there. It's probably some POS on board video anyway with aint worth a dmn so..  that's where you'll hit the probalem..
[11:24] <CaBlGuY> orgulloKmoore:  well, you'll have to wait til flash Version 8 is supported in Linux.. ;)
[11:24] <geneo91> might be intel 815 or higher
[11:24] <scott> ok CaBlGuY, thanks, i really don't know where to start, maybe i'll try the vesa driver, that's the only mention i could find in forum
[11:24] <CaBlGuY> and I wasn't laghin @ ya scott   ;)
[11:24] <scott> i'll start there
[11:24] <scott> i know i was only teasing
[11:24] <CaBlGuY> I know..
[11:25] <orgulloKmoore> CaBlGuY, ugh, so for now no youtube? :'(
[11:25] <geneo91> orgulloKmoore:  maybe mplayer plugin would work
[11:26] <cox377> how come the splash screen options are not available?
[11:27] <orgulloKmoore> does no one else in this chat hear audio from youtube?
[11:28] <chavo> orgulloKmoore, yes I get audio on youtube
[11:28] <orgulloKmoore> chavo, and how do you do that? :P
[11:28] <scott> i have to say that this release has been the most frustrating, 5.10 on same machine was a flawless install
[11:28] <orgulloKmoore> mine's not working
[11:28] <chavo> click on the links?
[11:29] <orgulloKmoore> I just see video, no audio
[11:29] <chavo> what I've noticed about flash audio is that it won't work with any other sound playing
[11:29] <geneo91> orgulloKmoore:  i do using mplayer plugin
[11:29] <orgulloKmoore> chavo, even if I have no other sounds playing it doesn't work
[11:29] <Ashex> Criminy
[11:29] <orgulloKmoore> geneo91, ok, I'll try that
[11:30] <Ashex> My audigy card isn't showing up in my sound devices >:(
[11:30] <Ashex> I did an lspci and I can see it
[11:30] <Ashex> The problem is that I have an onboard sound card that alsa keeps switching to
[11:30] <geneo91> modprobe it then
[11:30] <Ashex> I'm not entirely sure how to
[11:30] <neoncode> How well does kubuntu fair with an nVidia SLi setup?
[11:31] <Flosoft> hey
[11:31] <MrObvious> NVidia non-SLI works fine.
[11:31] <MrObvious> Not sure about SLi
[11:31] <Flosoft> I am looking for a programm to check my Harddrives (ext3 and LVM)
[11:31] <Flosoft> an intensive Hard Disk check
[11:31] <Flosoft> what could I use?
[11:31] <Ashex> !tell me about modprobe
[11:32] <Ashex> :(
[11:32] <geneo91> !modprobe
[11:32] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, geneo91
[11:32] <slow-motion> when i have the k7 kernel installed, can i remove the i386 kernel or shall i keep it because of compatibility issues?
[11:33] <RawSewage> Bill Gates is 'retiring'.  Probably because of Kubuntu.
[11:33] <geneo91> remove it
[11:34] <MrObvious> You can but having multiple kernels never hurts. I'm not sure about architecture things tho.
[11:34] <geneo91> he dont want to be there when the ship sinks
[11:34] <MrObvious> I run a 386 kernel on a 2400+ AXP
[11:35] <geneo91> MrObvious:  thats like running win3.1 on quad processor xeons box
[11:36] <n3storm> byes
[11:37] <MrObvious> Oh.
[11:37] <MrObvious> So do I need to change kernels on the AXP?
[11:37] <Samuli^> MrObvious, It's NOT anything like running 3.1 on quads.
[11:37] <geneo91> i'm not an amd guy
[11:38] <cox377> I've updated my source list/repositories etc but i cant find an application to rar/unrar applications.. anyone got any suggestions?
[11:38] <CaBlGuY> so...   I'm guessing that Ubuntu isn't supporting gstreamer then..
[11:38] <Samuli^> CaBlGuY, where do you get that?
[11:38] <Samuli^> ubuntu ships with gstreamer.
[11:38] <CaBlGuY> I can't find it anywhere...
[11:38] <MrObvious> There's a CLI command called unrar
[11:38] <MrObvious> IMO Gstreamer sucks anyway.
[11:38] <DaSkreech> geneo91: Gates Quit trying to be cool?
[11:38] <CaBlGuY> it's not installed on my install..  :/
[11:39] <cox377> is there a suggest RAR applications?
[11:39] <CaBlGuY> ok MrObvious, what else is there that "streams" audio like gstreamer??
[11:39] <geneo91> unrar nonfree
[11:39] <MrObvious> Ice?
[11:39] <MrObvious> Icecast?
[11:39] <CaBlGuY> Not heard of ice.. does it do the same thing?
[11:40] <CaBlGuY> captures the streams offline..
[11:40] <r0xz> cox377: tar.bz2 does the job here...
[11:41] <scott> i've never tried expert mode... does it give options for what video drivers to use?  if this try fails, i'll try expert mode
[11:42] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[11:42] <CaBlGuY> not used expert mode in a while..  just more options basiacll.
[11:42] <CaBlGuY> well MrObvious  I'm waiting...
[11:42] <CaBlGuY> !Ice
[11:42] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:42] <CaBlGuY> !Icecast
[11:42] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[11:43] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[11:43] <scott> hopefully this'll work, i'm about to find out... same machine i had 5.10 on, and it was a flawless automatic install
[11:43] <cox377> r0xz: cheers for that, how do i go about installing it?
[11:44] <slow-motion> uhoh have to fix a little kernel problem. hope i dont forget to install a kernel before rebooting or something
[11:44] <CaBlGuY> scott:  good luck bro..  ;)
[11:44] <scott> thanks
[11:45] <geneo91> .
[11:46] <linuxnoob> verdrckt :/
[11:47] <humboldt> what do I have to have installed to be able to burn mp3s to audio CDs?
[11:47] <Ashex> Grr
[11:47] <Ashex> I'm stumped
[11:47] <Ashex> I had my audigy card working just a few days ago, but now it isn't being loaded
[11:48] <Ashex> and I haven't a clue how to modprobe it either :S
[11:48] <geneo91> humboldt:  just use k3b and ask it to make audio cd
[11:49] <bojan> how can i get that desktop switching applet thing onto my taskbar? I cant seem to find it anywhere.
[11:49] <bojan> like with numbers Desktop 1 and Desktop 2, so on
[11:49] <slow-motion> n8
[11:50] <geneo91> maybe you need launcher applet
[11:50] <bojan> found it
[11:50] <humboldt> geneo91: libk3b2-mp3 needs to be installed!
[11:50] <bojan> it just didnt have an idcon in the applets list, and its called Desktop pager, which wasnt what i was looking for initially
[11:51] <geneo91> humboldt:  install it
[11:51] <marcio> gente como instalo atualizaao flashplayer ?
[11:51] <Ashex> soo, anyone have any advice as to steps I can take?
[11:52] <geneo91> Ashex:  look on wiki ??
[11:53] <Ashex> Eh, I'm looking through it right now
[11:53] <geneo91> idunno what card it is so i cant tell you command to use
[11:54] <Ashex> It's a Creative Audigy 2 soundcard
[11:55] <geneo91> what does lspci call it
[11:55] <Ashex> I've looked through the modules and tried to load the one I believe it is (snd-emu10k1)
[11:55] <Ashex> Creative Labs SB Audigy
[11:56] <geneo91> technical name
[11:57] <Ashex> you want the whole line?
[11:57] <Ashex> :p
[11:57] <geneo91> yes
[11:58] <Ashex> 0000:00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[11:58] <Ashex> eh, it didn't show up when I did a cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:59] <geneo91> how about alsamixer
[11:59] <cox377> if i have downloaded a .deb file can i say browse using an application so i dont have to install it manually?
[12:00] <Ashex> alsamixer shows my onboard card
[12:00] <geneo91> turn it off in bios then
[12:00] <Ashex> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[12:00] <Ashex> the onboard sound?
[12:00] <geneo91> yes
[12:00] <Ashex> heh, I never thought about doing that
[12:00] <geneo91> you dont need two
[12:02] <Ashex> hookay
[12:02] <Ashex> I'll give it a shot
[12:02] <Ashex> as soon as my laptop connects...
[12:02] <geneo91> try that and it should load your other card then
[12:03] <Ashex> while I remember, what's command to re-configure the keyboard?
[12:03] <r0xz> cox377: tarball (tar) is installed by default, there are some gui's that can use it like ark
[12:03] <Ashex> bah, reboot now
[12:03] <cox377> i tried ark but it didnt work