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infinity--as-needed and dlopen should play nicely together...05:19
infinityI have PHP modules that are dlopened and don't directly depend on all their intransitive deps.05:19
infinitys/in//05:19
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fabbionepool/main/g/gcc-4.1/gcc-4.1-source_4.1.1-2ubuntu3_all.deb07:33
fabbionewhy do we need this???07:33
fabbioneisn't apt-get source enough?07:33
infinityfabbione: It's so gcj-4.1 can build-dep on it, instead of having a massive duplicated source package.09:14
infinityfabbione: Will make more and more sense if more compilers get split out of the main build.09:14
fabbioneinfinity: ah ok09:15
fabbionemake sense09:15
infinityArgh, what's happened to my latency?09:17
=== infinity curses his DSL.
fabbionejava-gcj-compat depends on java-common (>= 0.25)09:26
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infinitydoko: Can you upload a merged java-common to fix that?09:56
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doko_infinity: ok10:43
dokoinfinity: done11:15
infinitydoko: Thanks, dude.11:38
dokoinfinity: anything else?11:38
fabbionedoko: yes.. 100.000 Euro for infinity to bootstrap this mess please11:40
dokofabbione: what mess?11:41
fabbionedoko: just teasing ;)11:41
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Keybukinfinity: btw, we're not doing syncs01:28
dokoKeybuk: what's the plan to start these? 01:29
KeybukI've yet to find an LP admin to bend to my will to fix the damned zcml so it doesn't throw an exception at me01:29
infinityKeybuk: Awesome.02:00
doko4.1 is the default, thanks infinity :-)02:06
fabbionei have the feeling infinity is going to open the gates02:07
fabbioneGO INFINITY!02:07
infinityGates will open in ~30 mins.02:08
fabbioneneat02:08
infinityFeel free to initiate some sort of countdown.02:08
fabbionewhy?02:09
fabbionei am not in any need to AWTY you on edgy02:09
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fabbione:)02:09
infinityWell, putting the buildds in full auto is good for dapper too. :)02:10
fabbione-2902:10
fabbioneAWTY?02:10
fabbione-2802:10
fabbione;)02:10
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Keybukfull auto buildds you say? :p02:23
Keybuknow, what was that little poem that Colin taught me?02:24
Keybukoh yes02:24
Keybuk"use -M or I cut your balls off"02:24
Keybukinfinity: what do you reckon?02:26
Keybuk-M or not -M? :p02:26
infinityNot losing your balls sounds good, in theory.02:27
infinityBut since they're not MY balls, I couldn't care less.02:27
Keybukbut nothing says "edgy is open" like 10,000 e-mails to a mailing list02:27
infinityWord to that.02:40
infinityAutosyncs are suppose to go to the autochanges mailing list, but I suspect the soyuz sync tool isn't designed to differentiate.02:40
infinity(or is it?)02:40
Keybuknot that I know of02:40
Keybukit's process-upload that sends the mails02:41
infinityOh, fair point.02:41
Keybukactually, it'll be only about 2,500 mails02:42
Keybukmaybe up to 4,00002:42
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infinity"only".03:09
Keybukheh03:53
Keybukso, how long do you reckon it'll all take to build?03:53
dokoto build what?03:56
KeybukE.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G03:57
infinitydoko: Uhh.  What's with the debhelper upload?03:58
infinitydoko: Kamion already synced...03:59
infinitydoko: Did you keep his changes?03:59
dokoinfinity: yes, kept all of them04:01
infinityOkay, cool.  Just got a bit freaked out by the "sync again" upload.04:02
dokoinfinity: we need it for the new python stuff to work04:02
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fabbioneKeybuk: to build everything?? less than 36 hours... ;)04:30
fabbioneKeybuk: if i can plug the 2x32CPU machines at the DC,  probably less than 8 hours04:30
Keybukit takes a significant portion of that just to build gcc04:30
Keybukand we have four new gccs04:30
Keybukthere are only 134 packages that have not changed04:31
fabbioneKeybuk: 2x32 CPU can make 64 buildds in parallel given a proper setup :)04:31
fabbioneKeybuk: it took me 36 hours to build all of dapper including universe on 24 CPU of the same machine (and 1/4 of the memory)04:31
dokoKeybuk: we really should have at least 4core machines, and not a single-CPU build machine for i386 ...04:34
jbailey_fabbione: It can make 64 buildds sure, until something like gcc or glibc comes along which use make -j =)04:34
fabbionejbailey: they were there in  my tests too :)04:35
dokojbailey_: glibc already does, gcc can do as well04:35
jbailey_Ah, I thought you did for gcc already.04:35
fabbionejbailey: the load just spikes up to 128.. tought luck.. the Niagara can handle easily04:35
Keybukfabbione: if it had working network04:36
jbailey_You're not happy unless you have a three-digit loadavg =)04:36
fabbioneKeybuk: ??04:37
dokojbailey_: it's just nicer to debug yet another build failure on hppa in the logs with -j 104:37
fabbioneKeybuk: they are at the DC and kicking like horses...04:37
fabbionejbailey: oh yeah.. i start to target to 4 digits now in my tests04:37
dokofabbione: what's the name of the developer machine?04:37
fabbionedoko: faure04:37
fabbionedoko: but the Niagara are only for me till after release04:37
dokofabbione: fine, but there will be a Niagara dev-machine?04:40
fabbionedoko: i dunno.04:40
fabbionewe got 2 Niagara at the dc04:40
fabbionebut i have no idea how they will be used 04:40
fabbionefor now they are my bitches to test the installer04:40
Keybukinfinity: you flipped that switch very quietly04:42
infinityKeybuk: Shh.04:42
jbailey_fabbione: One is probably being kept aside for certification and support use.04:42
infinityKeybuk: It's not very flipped anyway, since SOYUZ BROKE AGAIN.04:42
Keybukinfinity: is the fire hose empty?04:42
jbailey_fabbione: I'd guess the other one should probably be a porting box.04:42
infinity*cough*04:42
Keybukheh, what did soyuz do this time?04:43
fabbionejbailey: i dunno.. they are 2 different machines with slightly different hw.. so they might even both go to certification..04:43
fabbionejbailey: if it was up to me they would both be my personal develop boxes04:43
fabbioneand i could get rid of the helicopter in here04:44
infinityKeybuk: slave-scanner's exploding on some fascist new checks that were added in the last rollout, so no builds for j00.04:44
Keybukwhat are the new checks?04:46
infinitySomething to avoid creating duplicate build records or something.  I dunno.  I'm too asleep to care anymore.04:47
infinityI'll cath you all on the flipside. :)04:47
infinity(cprov should fix this in the meantime)04:47
Keybukok04:49
Keybukso his face is peering down the firehose? :p04:49
=== Keybuk cranks up the pressure
fabbioneKeybuk: no don't :) they are already pressured enough to fix some other stuff and be able to release sparc04:50
Keybukwho cares about sparc? :p04:50
Keybukthat's like caring about itanic04:50
fabbioneKeybuk: di04:51
fabbione+e04:51
fabbione;)04:51
jbailey_Keybuk: So is now a bad time to say that I spent a bit of last saturday looking at how to implement ilp32 mode on ia64? =)05:02
Keybukjbailey_: yeah, but you like the Hurd ... you don't mind nobody using things :p05:02
Keybukok05:43
Keybukcould everybody please clear the fire hose05:43
KeybukI will not be responsible for anybody peering down it05:43
fabbioneKeybuk: you probably want to tell to -devel ?05:44
fabbionejust to be nice05:44
fabbioneand look cool :P05:44

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