[05:19] --as-needed and dlopen should play nicely together... [05:19] I have PHP modules that are dlopened and don't directly depend on all their intransitive deps. [05:19] s/in// === jbailey_ [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain [07:33] pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/gcc-4.1-source_4.1.1-2ubuntu3_all.deb [07:33] why do we need this??? [07:33] isn't apt-get source enough? [09:14] fabbione: It's so gcj-4.1 can build-dep on it, instead of having a massive duplicated source package. [09:14] fabbione: Will make more and more sense if more compilers get split out of the main build. [09:15] infinity: ah ok [09:15] make sense [09:17] Argh, what's happened to my latency? === infinity curses his DSL. [09:26] java-gcj-compat depends on java-common (>= 0.25) === chmj [n=chmj@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain [09:56] doko: Can you upload a merged java-common to fix that? === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-092-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain [10:43] infinity: ok [11:15] infinity: done [11:38] doko: Thanks, dude. [11:38] infinity: anything else? [11:40] doko: yes.. 100.000 Euro for infinity to bootstrap this mess please [11:41] fabbione: what mess? [11:41] doko: just teasing ;) === chmj [n=chmj@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain [01:28] infinity: btw, we're not doing syncs [01:29] Keybuk: what's the plan to start these? [01:29] I've yet to find an LP admin to bend to my will to fix the damned zcml so it doesn't throw an exception at me [02:00] Keybuk: Awesome. [02:06] 4.1 is the default, thanks infinity :-) [02:07] i have the feeling infinity is going to open the gates [02:07] GO INFINITY! [02:08] Gates will open in ~30 mins. [02:08] neat [02:08] Feel free to initiate some sort of countdown. [02:09] why? [02:09] i am not in any need to AWTY you on edgy === fabbione needs dapper love [02:09] :) [02:10] Well, putting the buildds in full auto is good for dapper too. :) [02:10] -29 [02:10] AWTY? [02:10] -28 [02:10] ;) === jbailey_ [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain [02:23] full auto buildds you say? :p [02:24] now, what was that little poem that Colin taught me? [02:24] oh yes [02:24] "use -M or I cut your balls off" [02:26] infinity: what do you reckon? [02:26] -M or not -M? :p [02:27] Not losing your balls sounds good, in theory. [02:27] But since they're not MY balls, I couldn't care less. [02:27] but nothing says "edgy is open" like 10,000 e-mails to a mailing list [02:40] Word to that. [02:40] Autosyncs are suppose to go to the autochanges mailing list, but I suspect the soyuz sync tool isn't designed to differentiate. [02:40] (or is it?) [02:40] not that I know of [02:41] it's process-upload that sends the mails [02:41] Oh, fair point. [02:42] actually, it'll be only about 2,500 mails [02:42] maybe up to 4,000 === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@200.146.64.208.adsl.gvt.net.br] has left #ubuntu-toolchain ["Leaving"] === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@200.146.64.208.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-toolchain [03:09] "only". [03:53] heh [03:53] so, how long do you reckon it'll all take to build? [03:56] to build what? [03:57] E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G [03:58] doko: Uhh. What's with the debhelper upload? [03:59] doko: Kamion already synced... [03:59] doko: Did you keep his changes? [04:01] infinity: yes, kept all of them [04:02] Okay, cool. Just got a bit freaked out by the "sync again" upload. [04:02] infinity: we need it for the new python stuff to work === infinity nods. [04:30] Keybuk: to build everything?? less than 36 hours... ;) [04:30] Keybuk: if i can plug the 2x32CPU machines at the DC, probably less than 8 hours [04:30] it takes a significant portion of that just to build gcc [04:30] and we have four new gccs [04:31] there are only 134 packages that have not changed [04:31] Keybuk: 2x32 CPU can make 64 buildds in parallel given a proper setup :) [04:31] Keybuk: it took me 36 hours to build all of dapper including universe on 24 CPU of the same machine (and 1/4 of the memory) [04:34] Keybuk: we really should have at least 4core machines, and not a single-CPU build machine for i386 ... [04:34] fabbione: It can make 64 buildds sure, until something like gcc or glibc comes along which use make -j =) [04:35] jbailey: they were there in my tests too :) [04:35] jbailey_: glibc already does, gcc can do as well [04:35] Ah, I thought you did for gcc already. [04:35] jbailey: the load just spikes up to 128.. tought luck.. the Niagara can handle easily [04:36] fabbione: if it had working network [04:36] You're not happy unless you have a three-digit loadavg =) [04:37] Keybuk: ?? [04:37] jbailey_: it's just nicer to debug yet another build failure on hppa in the logs with -j 1 [04:37] Keybuk: they are at the DC and kicking like horses... [04:37] jbailey: oh yeah.. i start to target to 4 digits now in my tests [04:37] fabbione: what's the name of the developer machine? [04:37] doko: faure [04:37] doko: but the Niagara are only for me till after release [04:40] fabbione: fine, but there will be a Niagara dev-machine? [04:40] doko: i dunno. [04:40] we got 2 Niagara at the dc [04:40] but i have no idea how they will be used [04:40] for now they are my bitches to test the installer [04:42] infinity: you flipped that switch very quietly [04:42] Keybuk: Shh. [04:42] fabbione: One is probably being kept aside for certification and support use. [04:42] Keybuk: It's not very flipped anyway, since SOYUZ BROKE AGAIN. [04:42] infinity: is the fire hose empty? [04:42] fabbione: I'd guess the other one should probably be a porting box. [04:42] *cough* [04:43] heh, what did soyuz do this time? [04:43] jbailey: i dunno.. they are 2 different machines with slightly different hw.. so they might even both go to certification.. [04:43] jbailey: if it was up to me they would both be my personal develop boxes [04:44] and i could get rid of the helicopter in here [04:44] Keybuk: slave-scanner's exploding on some fascist new checks that were added in the last rollout, so no builds for j00. [04:46] what are the new checks? [04:47] Something to avoid creating duplicate build records or something. I dunno. I'm too asleep to care anymore. [04:47] I'll cath you all on the flipside. :) [04:47] (cprov should fix this in the meantime) [04:49] ok [04:49] so his face is peering down the firehose? :p === Keybuk cranks up the pressure [04:50] Keybuk: no don't :) they are already pressured enough to fix some other stuff and be able to release sparc [04:50] who cares about sparc? :p [04:50] that's like caring about itanic [04:51] Keybuk: di [04:51] +e [04:51] ;) [05:02] Keybuk: So is now a bad time to say that I spent a bit of last saturday looking at how to implement ilp32 mode on ia64? =) [05:02] jbailey_: yeah, but you like the Hurd ... you don't mind nobody using things :p [05:43] ok [05:43] could everybody please clear the fire hose [05:43] I will not be responsible for anybody peering down it [05:44] Keybuk: you probably want to tell to -devel ? [05:44] just to be nice [05:44] and look cool :P