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OdyX_insanekane: "all users" or "all new user" ?12:09
insanekaneOdyX_: all users12:09
OdyX_insanekane: if second, you can use /etc/skel/.bashrc...12:09
OdyX_insanekane: and touch every .bashrc...12:09
insanekaneOdyX_: basically, i dont want to write into /etc/environment in any of my postinstall12:09
insanekanepostinst scripts12:09
OdyX_ouah... well...12:10
insanekaneoverwriting /etc/environment causes problems as well12:10
OdyX_not easy...12:10
OdyX_certainly12:10
insanekaneOdyX_: any ideas ?12:10
DaSkreechAnyone seen Beats Of Rage?12:10
OdyX_well give a look in /etc/skel .. but more...12:10
insanekanethanks12:11
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OdyX_Bye12:11
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nixternalarg..updates broke my nvidia machine12:20
linuxmonkeydidnt break mine12:22
nixternaldidn't break my ati machine, which i expected it would...anyone with nvidia drivers got borked today12:22
DaSkreechPropietary drivers?12:23
nixternalthe ones via adept12:23
nixternali think previously i was using ones from the website12:23
nixternalbut adept wanted to throw a new kernel and what not on my system saying i needed it upgraded...i never heard of upgrading from 2.6.16-20 to 2.6.15-25...12:23
nixternalso..with Kubuntu, I shall no longer roll my own kernels..i will use default from now on..as i believe this will stop my issues in the past12:24
DaSkreech:-)12:26
nixternalSysinfo for 'MasTequila': Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2000+ at 1674 MHz (3349 bogomips), , RAM: 481/502MB, 106 proc's, 1.30h up12:27
nixternalwth...it supposedly upgraded to the -25-k7 kernel12:27
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nixternali think the upgrades didn't work 100% today ;(12:27
crimsun_worked fine here.12:30
nixternalcrimsun_: did your kernel upgrade to the -2512:30
nixternali know adept said it was doing it..but it didn't12:30
crimsun_nixternal: yes, but I installed it manually12:32
crimsun_(``apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-25-686'', that is)12:32
nixternalit showed up in the adept_notifier though as an update, and i just clicked "go ahead" pretty much...but it appears as if it didn't dl it12:33
crimsun_(I'm not well versed with ept)12:34
nixternalim not a fan of it either12:35
nixternalit is reallyslow for one...but however the update notification is nice12:35
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bddebianHello03:28
freeflying|awaybddebian: hey03:29
bddebianHello freeflying|away03:30
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apacheloggerkood nikht all :-)04:07
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Hobbseeafternoon/morning all05:25
nixternalhey Hobbsee05:26
Hobbseehey nixternal :)05:26
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nixternalhttp://img50.imageshack.us/img50/368/data5ze.gif05:43
imbrandonheya Hobbsee05:44
Hobbseehey imbrandon 05:44
Hobbseehaha05:44
imbrandonwould be funny if it had the same thing with a kernel panic too ;)05:46
nixternalhehe05:48
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Hobbseeimbrandon: what should i do today?06:11
imbrandonhrm hehe06:12
imbrandoni dunno i was thinking the same thing06:12
imbrandoni was looking at the stuff in the topic about edgy but06:12
Hobbseeneed a working edgy chroot for that06:12
imbrandonxserver isnt built yet even though edgy is open06:12
imbrandonHobbsee, there ya go,,, build a chroot ;)06:13
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Hobbseei thought they were still building the toolchain06:13
=== Hobbsee wonders how to have multiple pbuilders, running different distros in eahc
imbrandonlooks like the tool chain is done ( -devel /topic says "edgy is open" although i'm not sure what that means as x is not built yet )06:13
Hobbseehmm...06:14
imbrandonHobbsee, the wiki has a section on multi pbuilders for diffrent distros06:14
imbrandonjust might have to "tweak" it a bit for edgy06:14
Hobbseeimbrandon: thanks, i'd forgotten about that :P06:14
imbrandonetc06:14
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nixternalhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/nixternal/sets/72157594167289193/08:22
Hobbseenixternal: heh cool08:24
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nixternali have been hackin' that thing for hours since ipod linux doesn't support that model08:25
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mornfallThe Gathering -- Saturnine08:53
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=== mornfall notes that everybody seems to be asleep today :))
mornfall--> meeting, anyhow09:08
Hobbseemornfall: i think they are, yeah09:08
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imbrandon_morning mornfall09:36
\shmoins09:46
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mornfallwibble10:23
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HobbseeRiddell-awa: ping?  do we know why the screensaver doesnt automatically run after the specified time in kde 3.5.3 packages?10:42
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kane_i think ive found a bug ... could someone confirm it for me ?10:54
\shkane_: bug no?11:01
kane_\sh: still trying to figure out how to add a bug in launchpad :/11:04
kane_\sh: you there ?11:11
kane_\sh: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/scim/+bug/4996111:11
UbugtuMalone bug 49961 in scim "Using scim by default causes kwin not to start" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  11:11
kane_\sh: you there ?11:14
\shsebas: pyqt4 is just a good candidate for dapper-backports11:17
\shkane_: sure...I'm reading when I have time :)11:17
kane_\sh: thanks a lot ... i thought I missed you :)11:18
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Hobbseeimbrandon: ping02:15
imbrandonHobbsee, pong02:15
freeflyingkane_: you use scim?02:26
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bddebianHeya03:15
Hobbseehey bddebian!03:17
bddebianHi Hobbsee03:20
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kasina'lo03:28
Hobbseehey kasina 03:32
kasinahi Hobbsee03:35
imbrandonmoins bddebian03:53
bddebianHello imbrandon04:00
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kane_freeflying|away: yes, i use scim04:28
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freeflying|awaykane_: around?04:51
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DaSkreechXorg-air replaces xorg correct?05:17
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chavoDaSkreech, no it's just another server, so it can coexist05:25
DaSkreech..05:25
DaSkreechSee that doens't make much sense05:25
chavoit can coexist with xorg-xserver05:26
DaSkreechOk... So if install it on the current kernel and it screws up I can boot into a old kernel and it should default back to xor Without air?05:27
DaSkreechxorg05:27
chavono it won't run by default, you have to change it05:28
DaSkreechhmm05:28
chavoeither change the /usr/bin/X link, or make a script to launch it05:28
DaSkreechBut the old kernels should still be pointing at the x.org config still shouldn't they?05:29
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tomahi08:23
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Tonio_hey \sh ;)09:10
Tonio_will we have the pleasure to see you in paris next week ?09:10
\shmoins Tonio_ 09:10
\shTonio_: I'm sorry no.. I can09:10
\sh't take off from work09:10
jpatrickTonio_: gnash's getting better09:11
Tonio_jpatrick: nice to ear !09:11
Tonio_\sh: I was suspecting this of course... bad news !09:11
jpatrickTonio_: now plays stuff from the BBC and other random flash things09:11
Tonio_jpatrick: what about the kde status of gnash ?09:11
jpatrickthat's it^09:11
Tonio_cause last time I had a look, only gtk version was working09:12
\shTonio_: if there would be a day on the weekend...I would come :) but directly in the middle of the week...in the moment not possible09:12
jpatrickTonio_: I'm testing using Konq09:12
Tonio_jpatrick: were you able to compile the konqueror extension and use kdelibs ?09:12
Tonio_jpatrick: yes, b ut you can use konq with the mozilla plugin or the "klash" konq extension09:12
jpatrickoh yeah09:13
Tonio_\sh: that's obvious, you just started so it is quite hard to take vacations that early09:13
Tonio_jpatrick: what's interesting with klash is better stability, speed, and kdelibs used instead of gtk ;)09:13
\shTonio_: I'm now a freelancer ;) but we are just less then one month away from productlaunch09:13
Tonio_so that's pretty nice09:13
Tonio_\sh: it'll be for the next time then ;)09:14
Tonio_and I used to be a freelancer, I know how hard it can be to stop a week09:14
jpatrickTonio_: I'm just seeing if the lastest version builds atm09:14
Tonio_that costs a lot :)09:14
Tonio_jpatrick: I will wait still one or two month and then concentrate on it for edgy09:15
\shTonio_: the money is not the problem....but the timeframe...tight schedule09:15
Tonio_according to upstreams, the first stable release should come during summer09:15
Tonio_\sh: yes, that's the other problem :)09:15
\shTonio_: but the next conf is not too far away 09:16
Tonio_a freelancer generally take vacations between contracts, but not during, unless it is a very long one09:16
\shedgy will be 4.5 months..so after release, next conf I hope :)09:16
Tonio_would be nice09:16
Tonio_but I may not be there09:16
\shTonio_: then I have to come to paris :)09:16
Tonio_since linuxtag + 2 confs a year costs me 3 vacation weeks :)09:16
Tonio_my girlfriend would agree I assume :)09:17
Tonio_\sh: next one will probably be in another european country isn't it ?09:17
\shTonio_: but for the next linuxtag, we can count on you? :)09:17
\shTonio_: I would bet it will be held somewhere in asia09:17
Tonio_\sh: sure, I'll probably be there full week next time09:18
Tonio_ouch..........09:18
raphink\sh: really? I heard it was to be held in south america09:18
\shubz canada, uds paris, 09:18
Tonio_I won't be there for asia probably :)09:18
raphinkTonio_: what's the difference?09:18
Tonio_raphink: money :)09:18
raphinkTonio_: as long as you get sponsored ;)09:18
raphinkget your trip sponsored09:18
Tonio_raphink: are there really prople that are getting sponsored for this kind of events ?09:19
raphinkof course :)09:19
\shraphink: well, as I said, I would bet on it, because sabdfl did a lot of PR the last months in asia..but actually it doesn't matter where09:19
\shTonio_: yes09:19
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