[12:09] <OdyX_> insanekane: "all users" or "all new user" ?
[12:09] <insanekane> OdyX_: all users
[12:09] <OdyX_> insanekane: if second, you can use /etc/skel/.bashrc...
[12:09] <OdyX_> insanekane: and touch every .bashrc...
[12:09] <insanekane> OdyX_: basically, i dont want to write into /etc/environment in any of my postinstall
[12:09] <insanekane> postinst scripts
[12:10] <OdyX_> ouah... well...
[12:10] <insanekane> overwriting /etc/environment causes problems as well
[12:10] <OdyX_> not easy...
[12:10] <OdyX_> certainly
[12:10] <insanekane> OdyX_: any ideas ?
[12:10] <DaSkreech> Anyone seen Beats Of Rage?
[12:10] <OdyX_> well give a look in /etc/skel .. but more...
[12:11] <insanekane> thanks
[12:11] <OdyX_> Bye
[12:20] <nixternal> arg..updates broke my nvidia machine
[12:22] <linuxmonkey> didnt break mine
[12:22] <nixternal> didn't break my ati machine, which i expected it would...anyone with nvidia drivers got borked today
[12:23] <DaSkreech> Propietary drivers?
[12:23] <nixternal> the ones via adept
[12:23] <nixternal> i think previously i was using ones from the website
[12:23] <nixternal> but adept wanted to throw a new kernel and what not on my system saying i needed it upgraded...i never heard of upgrading from 2.6.16-20 to 2.6.15-25...
[12:24] <nixternal> so..with Kubuntu, I shall no longer roll my own kernels..i will use default from now on..as i believe this will stop my issues in the past
[12:26] <DaSkreech> :-)
[12:27] <nixternal> Sysinfo for 'MasTequila': Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2000+ at 1674 MHz (3349 bogomips), , RAM: 481/502MB, 106 proc's, 1.30h up
[12:27] <nixternal> wth...it supposedly upgraded to the -25-k7 kernel
[12:27] <nixternal> i think the upgrades didn't work 100% today ;(
[12:30] <crimsun_> worked fine here.
[12:30] <nixternal> crimsun_: did your kernel upgrade to the -25
[12:30] <nixternal> i know adept said it was doing it..but it didn't
[12:32] <crimsun_> nixternal: yes, but I installed it manually
[12:32] <crimsun_> (``apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-25-686'', that is)
[12:33] <nixternal> it showed up in the adept_notifier though as an update, and i just clicked "go ahead" pretty much...but it appears as if it didn't dl it
[12:34] <crimsun_> (I'm not well versed with ept)
[12:35] <nixternal> im not a fan of it either
[12:35] <nixternal> it is reallyslow for one...but however the update notification is nice
[03:28] <bddebian> Hello
[03:29] <freeflying|away> bddebian: hey
[03:30] <bddebian> Hello freeflying|away
[04:07] <apachelogger> kood nikht all :-)
[05:25] <Hobbsee> afternoon/morning all
[05:26] <nixternal> hey Hobbsee
[05:26] <Hobbsee> hey nixternal :)
[05:43] <nixternal> http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/368/data5ze.gif
[05:44] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee
[05:44] <Hobbsee> hey imbrandon 
[05:44] <Hobbsee> haha
[05:46] <imbrandon> would be funny if it had the same thing with a kernel panic too ;)
[05:48] <nixternal> hehe
[06:11] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: what should i do today?
[06:12] <imbrandon> hrm hehe
[06:12] <imbrandon> i dunno i was thinking the same thing
[06:12] <imbrandon> i was looking at the stuff in the topic about edgy but
[06:12] <Hobbsee> need a working edgy chroot for that
[06:12] <imbrandon> xserver isnt built yet even though edgy is open
[06:13] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, there ya go,,, build a chroot ;)
[06:13] <Hobbsee> i thought they were still building the toolchain
[06:13] <imbrandon> looks like the tool chain is done ( -devel /topic says "edgy is open" although i'm not sure what that means as x is not built yet )
[06:14] <Hobbsee> hmm...
[06:14] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, the wiki has a section on multi pbuilders for diffrent distros
[06:14] <imbrandon> just might have to "tweak" it a bit for edgy
[06:14] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: thanks, i'd forgotten about that :P
[06:14] <imbrandon> etc
[08:22] <nixternal> http://www.flickr.com/photos/nixternal/sets/72157594167289193/
[08:24] <Hobbsee> nixternal: heh cool
[08:25] <nixternal> i have been hackin' that thing for hours since ipod linux doesn't support that model
[08:53] <mornfall> The Gathering -- Saturnine
[09:08] <mornfall> --> meeting, anyhow
[09:08] <Hobbsee> mornfall: i think they are, yeah
[09:36] <imbrandon_> morning mornfall
[09:46] <\sh> moins
[10:23] <mornfall> wibble
[10:42] <Hobbsee> Riddell-awa: ping?  do we know why the screensaver doesnt automatically run after the specified time in kde 3.5.3 packages?
[10:54] <kane_> i think ive found a bug ... could someone confirm it for me ?
[11:01] <\sh> kane_: bug no?
[11:04] <kane_> \sh: still trying to figure out how to add a bug in launchpad :/
[11:11] <kane_> \sh: you there ?
[11:11] <kane_> \sh: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/scim/+bug/49961
[11:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 49961 in scim "Using scim by default causes kwin not to start" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  
[11:14] <kane_> \sh: you there ?
[11:17] <\sh> sebas: pyqt4 is just a good candidate for dapper-backports
[11:17] <\sh> kane_: sure...I'm reading when I have time :)
[11:18] <kane_> \sh: thanks a lot ... i thought I missed you :)
[02:15] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ping
[02:15] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, pong
[02:26] <freeflying> kane_: you use scim?
[03:15] <bddebian> Heya
[03:17] <Hobbsee> hey bddebian!
[03:20] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee
[03:28] <kasina> 'lo
[03:32] <Hobbsee> hey kasina 
[03:35] <kasina> hi Hobbsee
[03:53] <imbrandon> moins bddebian
[04:00] <bddebian> Hello imbrandon
[04:28] <kane_> freeflying|away: yes, i use scim
[04:51] <freeflying|away> kane_: around?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Xorg-air replaces xorg correct?
[05:25] <chavo> DaSkreech, no it's just another server, so it can coexist
[05:25] <DaSkreech> ..
[05:25] <DaSkreech> See that doens't make much sense
[05:26] <chavo> it can coexist with xorg-xserver
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Ok... So if install it on the current kernel and it screws up I can boot into a old kernel and it should default back to xor Without air?
[05:27] <DaSkreech> xorg
[05:28] <chavo> no it won't run by default, you have to change it
[05:28] <DaSkreech> hmm
[05:28] <chavo> either change the /usr/bin/X link, or make a script to launch it
[05:29] <DaSkreech> But the old kernels should still be pointing at the x.org config still shouldn't they?
[08:23] <toma> hi
[09:10] <Tonio_> hey \sh ;)
[09:10] <Tonio_> will we have the pleasure to see you in paris next week ?
[09:10] <\sh> moins Tonio_ 
[09:10] <\sh> Tonio_: I'm sorry no.. I can
[09:10] <\sh> 't take off from work
[09:11] <jpatrick> Tonio_: gnash's getting better
[09:11] <Tonio_> jpatrick: nice to ear !
[09:11] <Tonio_> \sh: I was suspecting this of course... bad news !
[09:11] <jpatrick> Tonio_: now plays stuff from the BBC and other random flash things
[09:11] <Tonio_> jpatrick: what about the kde status of gnash ?
[09:11] <jpatrick> that's it^
[09:12] <Tonio_> cause last time I had a look, only gtk version was working
[09:12] <\sh> Tonio_: if there would be a day on the weekend...I would come :) but directly in the middle of the week...in the moment not possible
[09:12] <jpatrick> Tonio_: I'm testing using Konq
[09:12] <Tonio_> jpatrick: were you able to compile the konqueror extension and use kdelibs ?
[09:12] <Tonio_> jpatrick: yes, b ut you can use konq with the mozilla plugin or the "klash" konq extension
[09:13] <jpatrick> oh yeah
[09:13] <Tonio_> \sh: that's obvious, you just started so it is quite hard to take vacations that early
[09:13] <Tonio_> jpatrick: what's interesting with klash is better stability, speed, and kdelibs used instead of gtk ;)
[09:13] <\sh> Tonio_: I'm now a freelancer ;) but we are just less then one month away from productlaunch
[09:13] <Tonio_> so that's pretty nice
[09:14] <Tonio_> \sh: it'll be for the next time then ;)
[09:14] <Tonio_> and I used to be a freelancer, I know how hard it can be to stop a week
[09:14] <jpatrick> Tonio_: I'm just seeing if the lastest version builds atm
[09:14] <Tonio_> that costs a lot :)
[09:15] <Tonio_> jpatrick: I will wait still one or two month and then concentrate on it for edgy
[09:15] <\sh> Tonio_: the money is not the problem....but the timeframe...tight schedule
[09:15] <Tonio_> according to upstreams, the first stable release should come during summer
[09:15] <Tonio_> \sh: yes, that's the other problem :)
[09:16] <\sh> Tonio_: but the next conf is not too far away 
[09:16] <Tonio_> a freelancer generally take vacations between contracts, but not during, unless it is a very long one
[09:16] <\sh> edgy will be 4.5 months..so after release, next conf I hope :)
[09:16] <Tonio_> would be nice
[09:16] <Tonio_> but I may not be there
[09:16] <\sh> Tonio_: then I have to come to paris :)
[09:16] <Tonio_> since linuxtag + 2 confs a year costs me 3 vacation weeks :)
[09:17] <Tonio_> my girlfriend would agree I assume :)
[09:17] <Tonio_> \sh: next one will probably be in another european country isn't it ?
[09:17] <\sh> Tonio_: but for the next linuxtag, we can count on you? :)
[09:17] <\sh> Tonio_: I would bet it will be held somewhere in asia
[09:18] <Tonio_> \sh: sure, I'll probably be there full week next time
[09:18] <Tonio_> ouch..........
[09:18] <raphink> \sh: really? I heard it was to be held in south america
[09:18] <\sh> ubz canada, uds paris, 
[09:18] <Tonio_> I won't be there for asia probably :)
[09:18] <raphink> Tonio_: what's the difference?
[09:18] <Tonio_> raphink: money :)
[09:18] <raphink> Tonio_: as long as you get sponsored ;)
[09:18] <raphink> get your trip sponsored
[09:19] <Tonio_> raphink: are there really prople that are getting sponsored for this kind of events ?
[09:19] <raphink> of course :)
[09:19] <\sh> raphink: well, as I said, I would bet on it, because sabdfl did a lot of PR the last months in asia..but actually it doesn't matter where
[09:19] <\sh> Tonio_: yes