| BenC | zul: all you changed was the ABI number, right? | 12:06 |
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| zul | yeah ant the control file | 12:16 |
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| BenC | upload away then | 12:20 |
| zul | done | 12:22 |
| zul | now wait for the rejection | 12:22 |
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| zul | im thinking it got rejected | 01:31 |
| roh | .oO(as long as the default kernel ends up without vmware modules.... | 01:35 |
| mdz | BenC: 2.6.17 binaries new'd | 01:35 |
| BenC | mdz: nice, thanks | 01:35 |
| BenC | is vmware-modules a seperate package? | 01:35 |
| mdz | well, except ia64 which is still building | 01:36 |
| BenC | if so, I wonder what keeps us from putting it into lrm | 01:36 |
| BenC | mdz: is hppa gone from edgy, or just delayed? | 01:36 |
| mdz | BenC: yes, it is a separate package unfortunately, and I would prefer to have it in lrm | 01:36 |
| BenC | mdz: Consider it done for edgy | 01:36 |
| mdz | I don't remember why it wasn't done that way in the first place; talk to mvo? | 01:36 |
| roh | lrm? | 01:36 |
| BenC | will he be in paris? | 01:36 |
| roh | restricted modules? | 01:36 |
| mdz | yes | 01:37 |
| mdz | he should be online tomorrow as well | 01:37 |
| roh | i'd like a extra package more, since i mostly don't want to accept the vmware licence just to get the madwifi modules | 01:37 |
| BenC | mdz: Hey, kirkland from IBM invited me to a google sponsored summit at LWE | 01:38 |
| BenC | linux testing discussion, IBM, Google, RedHat, and some others | 01:38 |
| BenC | mdz: It's in Aug, so wanted to give you some time to think about it | 01:38 |
| BenC | kirkland is the guy doing our ABAT stuff | 01:39 |
| mdz | sounds interesting, where is it? | 01:39 |
| BenC | SanFran | 01:39 |
| mdz | BenC: ah, roh is right...that's surely the reason | 01:39 |
| fabbione | BenC: what week? | 01:39 |
| mdz | the vmware modules require a license acknowledgement | 01:39 |
| BenC | he actually invited "Ubuntu", so anyone else can come | 01:39 |
| BenC | mdz: Ah, good reason | 01:40 |
| BenC | fabbione: hold a sec | 01:40 |
| mdz | maybe they'll be willing to relax that in the future | 01:40 |
| BenC | Somewhere around 14-17 | 01:41 |
| fabbione | BenC: the week after is the one davem and I were thinking for the "sparc will conquer the world week hacking fest in SF" | 01:41 |
| zul | heh | 01:41 |
| zul | BenC: can you grab the vmware stuff and do an upload t thx | 01:42 |
| BenC | fabbione: If that happens we can combine it | 01:42 |
| BenC | zul: ok | 01:42 |
| fabbione | BenC: i had no time to talk with Matt yet :) | 01:42 |
| BenC | well, combine the trip :) | 01:42 |
| zul | ooh...you can stop in ottawa ;) | 01:42 |
| zul | BenC: can i delete it...people are starting to my webserver | 01:43 |
| fabbione | zul: it's like... it's like... who cares about ottawa? :=) | 01:44 |
| zul | fabbione: yeah yeah... | 01:44 |
| zul | you will when canadians take over the world | 01:44 |
| BenC | zul: I got it | 01:44 |
| zul | cool...ill delete it | 01:44 |
| fabbione | zul: before canandias will take over the world, an italian will be US president | 01:44 |
| BenC | not sure how a bunch of flapping split heads can take over the world | 01:45 |
| zul | flapping split heads? thats a new one | 01:45 |
| BenC | <insert south park reference> | 01:45 |
| zul | ah ok | 01:46 |
| zul | aboot | 01:46 |
| BenC | zul: thanks, uploading now | 01:47 |
| zul | cool | 01:47 |
| zul | now people will stop asking | 01:47 |
| zul | ..as much | 01:48 |
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| mdz | BenC: are you ready to update linux-meta to .17? | 03:14 |
| BenC | just waiting on infinity to upload lrm for .17 | 03:14 |
| BenC | I gave him my patch to get it building, but he had a few changes for edgy | 03:15 |
| fabbione | do you really want to switch default kernel already? | 03:15 |
| fabbione | BenC: .17-1.1 is no go on Niagara | 03:15 |
| BenC | yeah | 03:15 |
| fabbione | ok | 03:15 |
| BenC | fabbione: Fixes from davem are in -2.2 | 03:15 |
| fabbione | ok | 03:15 |
| BenC | which I am uploading | 03:15 |
| BenC | just finishing some final builds | 03:15 |
| fabbione | a lot of BUG CPU #XXXX soft lockups | 03:15 |
| BenC | yeah, you need the scheduler tuneup that davem sent | 03:16 |
| fabbione | ok | 03:16 |
| fabbione | BenC: remember that rcu patch i did try once and didn't work? | 03:16 |
| BenC | as soon as I upload -2.2, infinity will do lrm | 03:16 |
| BenC | and I'll do linux-meta | 03:17 |
| BenC | yeah | 03:17 |
| fabbione | BenC: we will have to revisit it for dapper. the 2/3 niagara people that hangs in #u-ports are all experiencing that problem when make -j | 03:17 |
| fabbione | at least with low (as in 8GB) mem | 03:17 |
| BenC | ok | 03:18 |
| BenC | also, .17 will be final any day now | 03:18 |
| fabbione | yeah | 03:18 |
| BenC | we will have lots of room for stabalizing this kernel for edgy | 03:18 |
| fabbione | .17 doesn't have the problem | 03:18 |
| BenC | ah, ok | 03:18 |
| fabbione | it's only .15 | 03:19 |
| fabbione | the bug was introduced in .14 and fixed in .16 when davem and I found it on Niagara | 03:19 |
| fabbione | it's not critical, but nice to habe | 03:19 |
| fabbione | have | 03:19 |
| BenC | started the next dapper kernel changelog if you want to push it to me | 03:21 |
| fabbione | push what? | 03:21 |
| fabbione | i have nothing to push at the moment :) | 03:21 |
| fabbione | just some extra crack ;) | 03:21 |
| BenC | well, when you have something :) | 03:21 |
| fabbione | ehhe sure | 03:21 |
| zul | updating forcedth is probably cause us more problems | 03:24 |
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| infinity | BenC: I've run out of pre-flight time to tend to LRM. If you don't mind, I'd like to just do it in our hotel room on the first night there, then I can walk you through the uber-sketchy bits at the same time. | 12:35 |
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| zul | hey | 12:59 |
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| andi5 | hi... although i was just told that nobody should use edgy, i tried the new kernel (2.6.17-1-686) and wondered why there is no support for prism2_usb which was available in dappers kernel (and before).... any particular reason for removing it? thanks in advance | 01:17 |
| zul | proabbly hasnt been enabled yet. | 01:19 |
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| andi5 | zul: can you tell me, as a user that likes stock ubuntu kernels but is able to compile a kernel himself, what to do? forget edgy kernels for xyz weeks or wait abc days? .... i just wished someone could tell me why my setup is unstable :( | 01:22 |
| zul | because you are running an edgy kernel on dapper and the edgy kernel is on high development... | 01:23 |
| andi5 | not really, i am running dapper kernel on dapper and it is unstable | 01:24 |
| zul | anyways i have to go work.. | 01:24 |
| andi5 | kswapd0 goes crazy sometimes (up to 4 times per day).... 100% cpu usage, unkillable, forces me to restart computer.... ... damnit ;-) thanks nonetheless | 01:24 |
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| KaiL_ | gar.. a regression with 2.6.15-25: | 02:08 |
| KaiL_ | network modules (eepro100 and ipw2100) get "lost" on suspend on Asus M2N | 02:08 |
| KaiL_ | suspend is getting worse and worse on that Laptop :( | 02:09 |
| zul | please open a bug | 02:10 |
| KaiL_ | on the way | 02:10 |
| fabbione | andi5: not everything has been ported to .17 yet.. | 02:14 |
| fabbione | andi5: so if you are able to compile your kernels, you could also try to port it and provide a patch | 02:14 |
| fabbione | that would help too | 02:14 |
| andi5 | fabbione: oh, i see.... will see what i can do... thanks! | 02:16 |
| KaiL_ | ok, not the module, only ifconfig - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/49984 | 02:18 |
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| zul | KaiL_: you need to add more detail in your bug report, ie what ethernet cards you have etc | 03:00 |
| KaiL_ | *looking into /etc/network/interfaces* *wondering* PEBKAC? ;) | 03:03 |
| KaiL_ | *trying something else* | 03:03 |
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| KaiL_ | ah, now I get, what's going on here | 03:09 |
| KaiL_ | the -23 restores the network-state, the system had before suspend, the -25 the state after reboot | 03:09 |
| KaiL_ | uhm.. or not | 03:10 |
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| Symmetria | lo all | 09:49 |
| crimsun_ | what's the config of said machines? 2-/4-/8-/16-+ way? how much RAM? | 09:49 |
| Symmetria | 4gigs of RAM | 09:49 |
| Symmetria | dual xeon cpu's at the moment | 09:49 |
| Symmetria | dual e1000 gigE nics | 09:50 |
| Symmetria | vlans configured on eth1 | 09:50 |
| Symmetria | MTU on eth1 is 9000 | 09:50 |
| Symmetria | (due to iSCSI) | 09:50 |
| Symmetria | MTU on eth0 is normal (1500) | 09:50 |
| Symmetria | server is running a rather busy webserver and an ftp server, as well as doing a lot of rsyncing | 09:50 |
| Symmetria | traffic through eth0 is relatively low (60 odd mbit?) traffic through eth1 regularly pushes 600+mbit | 09:51 |
| jbailey | BenC: Your daily snapshot with the new udev seems to generally work except for atheros wifi, which I suspect is lrm love. | 09:52 |
| jbailey | But the rest of it smells good. | 09:52 |
| crimsun_ | Symmetria: and these symptoms appear with the latest 2.6.15-25.43 server kernel? | 09:52 |
| Symmetria | crimsun, running latest 2.6.16 straight off kernel.org | 09:53 |
| crimsun_ | oh... | 09:53 |
| Symmetria | tried it under various distributions as well, but right now, asking everyone I can find who is into linux kernel development because so far *NO ONE* has been able to help me | 09:53 |
| crimsun_ | erm, can't really help there. (I don't know the network code; you might want to ping BenC for that) | 09:53 |
| crimsun_ | Symmetria: have you addressed your question to the netdev list? | 09:53 |
| jbailey | That type of mismatch to me sounds like IRQ fuckage. | 09:54 |
| Symmetria | crimsun where is the netdev list :) I will in about 3 minutes if you can point me to it | 09:54 |
| jbailey | (technical term) | 09:54 |
| jbailey | Make sure that there isn't any sharing going on. | 09:54 |
| Symmetria | http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg05485.html <=== that was the one patch that was reported | 09:54 |
| Symmetria | but when I tried that patch, it didnt fix it | 09:54 |
| Symmetria | (though that patch is applied) | 09:54 |
| crimsun_ | Symmetria: that is the netdev list :) | 09:55 |
| crimsun_ | linux-netdev | 09:55 |
| Symmetria | crimsun_ heh, where do I find subscribe details for that list | 09:57 |
| crimsun_ | Symmetria: http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html | 09:58 |
| Symmetria | heh I just hope I find a fix fairly soon, about to put in another *MONSTER* system and am gonna be forced to go fbsd if I cant find a fix :( | 09:59 |
| crimsun_ | Symmetria: these channels are fairly Ubuntu-specific, so unless the symptoms are reproducible in the kernels of the supported stable releases, I'm not sure what to tell ya | 09:59 |
| Symmetria | heh next system is gonna be insane | 09:59 |
| Symmetria | quad xeon dual core hyper threading per core with 16gigs of ram | 09:59 |
| Symmetria | (netflow stats processing is a bitch) | 10:00 |
| Symmetria | anyway thanks for the help | 10:00 |
| Symmetria | gonna go sort out some other things in the mean time, need to get my ubuntu cd mirror running (that box Im having a problem with btw, is www.mirror.ac.za) | 10:01 |
| Symmetria | which Im hoping will be an official ubuntu mirror soon :p | 10:01 |
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| mdke | anyone got any idea how I can discover why my laptop doesn't resume from suspend under the -25 kernel? | 10:08 |
| mdke | (dapper) | 10:08 |
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| alex_joni | hello, just got an update on dapper for 2.6.15-25 (is it very different from 23? I am running a custom kernel based on 23, would it make sense to redo it on 25?) | 10:39 |
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| makx | alex_joni: custom kernels don't scale | 10:42 |
| alex_joni | makx: this is just the default kernel with a RTAI patch, and ACPI & APM turned off | 10:43 |
| makx | alex_joni : in doubt follow the git commits ;) | 10:44 |
| alex_joni | makx: no simple changelog somewhere? :) | 10:45 |
| crimsun_ | alex_joni: the simple one is in git's debian/changelog | 10:47 |
| crimsun_ | alex_joni: the more verbose one is also in git | 10:47 |
| alex_joni | crimsun_: thanks.. googling for it | 10:48 |
| crimsun_ | alex_joni: http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=summary | 10:49 |
| crimsun_ | alex_joni: sorry, that's dev. You want ubuntu-dapper | 10:49 |
| alex_joni | aii.. thanks a bunch | 10:50 |
| alex_joni | crimsun_: I don't see any security fixes, so I won't bother redoing it.. thanks again | 11:08 |
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| zul | hey | 11:54 |
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