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BenCzul: all you changed was the ABI number, right?12:06
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zulyeah ant the control file12:16
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BenCupload away then12:20
zuldone12:22
zulnow wait for the rejection12:22
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zulim thinking it got rejected01:31
roh .oO(as long as the default kernel ends up without vmware modules....01:35
mdzBenC: 2.6.17 binaries new'd01:35
BenCmdz: nice, thanks01:35
BenCis vmware-modules a seperate package?01:35
mdzwell, except ia64 which is still building01:36
BenCif so, I wonder what keeps us from putting it into lrm01:36
BenCmdz: is hppa gone from edgy, or just delayed?01:36
mdzBenC: yes, it is a separate package unfortunately, and I would prefer to have it in lrm01:36
BenCmdz: Consider it done for edgy01:36
mdzI don't remember why it wasn't done that way in the first place; talk to mvo?01:36
rohlrm?01:36
BenCwill he be in paris?01:36
rohrestricted modules?01:36
mdzyes01:37
mdzhe should be online tomorrow as well01:37
rohi'd like a extra package more, since i mostly don't want to accept the vmware licence just to get the madwifi modules01:37
BenCmdz: Hey, kirkland from IBM invited me to a google sponsored summit at LWE01:38
BenClinux testing discussion, IBM, Google, RedHat, and some others01:38
BenCmdz: It's in Aug, so wanted to give you some time to think about it01:38
BenCkirkland is the guy doing our ABAT stuff01:39
mdzsounds interesting, where is it?01:39
BenCSanFran01:39
mdzBenC: ah, roh is right...that's surely the reason01:39
fabbioneBenC: what week?01:39
mdzthe vmware modules require a license acknowledgement01:39
BenChe actually invited "Ubuntu", so anyone else can come01:39
BenCmdz: Ah, good reason01:40
BenCfabbione: hold a sec01:40
mdzmaybe they'll be willing to relax that in the future01:40
BenCSomewhere around 14-1701:41
fabbioneBenC: the week after is the one davem and I were thinking for the "sparc will conquer the world week hacking fest in SF"01:41
zulheh01:41
zulBenC: can you grab the vmware stuff and do an upload t thx01:42
BenCfabbione: If that happens we can combine it01:42
BenCzul: ok01:42
fabbioneBenC: i had no time to talk with Matt yet :)01:42
BenCwell, combine the trip :)01:42
zulooh...you can stop in ottawa ;)01:42
zulBenC: can i delete it...people are starting to my webserver01:43
fabbionezul: it's like... it's like... who cares about ottawa? :=)01:44
zulfabbione: yeah yeah...01:44
zulyou will when canadians take over the world01:44
BenCzul: I got it01:44
zulcool...ill delete it01:44
fabbionezul: before canandias will take over the world, an italian will be US president01:44
BenCnot sure how a bunch of flapping split heads can take over the world01:45
zulflapping split heads? thats a new one01:45
BenC<insert south park reference>01:45
zulah ok01:46
zulaboot01:46
BenCzul: thanks, uploading now01:47
zulcool01:47
zulnow people will stop asking01:47
zul..as much01:48
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mdzBenC: are you ready to update linux-meta to .17?03:14
BenCjust waiting on infinity to upload lrm for .1703:14
BenCI gave him my patch to get it building, but he had a few changes for edgy03:15
fabbionedo you really want to switch default kernel already?03:15
fabbioneBenC: .17-1.1 is no go on Niagara03:15
BenCyeah03:15
fabbioneok03:15
BenCfabbione: Fixes from davem are in -2.203:15
fabbioneok03:15
BenCwhich I am uploading03:15
BenCjust finishing some final builds03:15
fabbionea lot of BUG CPU #XXXX soft lockups03:15
BenCyeah, you need the scheduler tuneup that davem sent03:16
fabbioneok03:16
fabbioneBenC: remember that rcu patch i did try once and didn't work?03:16
BenCas soon as I upload -2.2, infinity will do lrm03:16
BenCand I'll do linux-meta03:17
BenCyeah03:17
fabbioneBenC: we will have to revisit it for dapper. the 2/3 niagara people that hangs in #u-ports are all experiencing that problem when make -j03:17
fabbioneat least with low (as in 8GB) mem03:17
BenCok03:18
BenCalso, .17 will be final any day now03:18
fabbioneyeah03:18
BenCwe will have lots of room for stabalizing this kernel for edgy03:18
fabbione.17 doesn't have the problem03:18
BenCah, ok03:18
fabbioneit's only .1503:19
fabbionethe bug was introduced in .14 and fixed in .16 when davem and I found it on Niagara03:19
fabbioneit's not critical, but nice to habe03:19
fabbionehave03:19
BenCstarted the next dapper kernel changelog if you want to push it to me03:21
fabbionepush what?03:21
fabbionei have nothing to push at the moment :)03:21
fabbionejust some extra crack ;)03:21
BenCwell, when you have something :)03:21
fabbioneehhe sure03:21
zulupdating forcedth is probably cause us more problems03:24
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infinityBenC: I've run out of pre-flight time to tend to LRM.  If you don't mind, I'd like to just do it in our hotel room on the first night there, then I can walk you through the uber-sketchy bits at the same time.12:35
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zulhey12:59
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andi5hi... although i was just told that nobody should use edgy, i tried the new kernel (2.6.17-1-686) and wondered why there is no support for prism2_usb which was available in dappers kernel (and before).... any particular reason for removing it? thanks in advance01:17
zulproabbly hasnt been enabled yet.01:19
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andi5zul: can you tell me, as a user that likes stock ubuntu kernels but is able to compile a kernel himself, what to do? forget edgy kernels for xyz weeks or wait abc days? .... i just wished someone could tell me why my setup is unstable :(01:22
zulbecause you are running an edgy kernel on dapper and the edgy kernel is on high development...01:23
andi5not really, i am running dapper kernel on dapper and it is unstable01:24
zulanyways i have to go work..01:24
andi5kswapd0 goes crazy sometimes (up to 4 times per day).... 100% cpu usage, unkillable, forces me to restart computer.... ... damnit ;-) thanks nonetheless01:24
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KaiL_gar.. a regression with 2.6.15-25:02:08
KaiL_network modules (eepro100 and ipw2100) get "lost" on suspend on Asus M2N02:08
KaiL_suspend is getting worse and worse on that Laptop :(02:09
zulplease open a bug02:10
KaiL_on the way02:10
fabbioneandi5: not everything has been ported to .17 yet..02:14
fabbioneandi5: so if you are able to compile your kernels, you could also try to port it and provide a patch02:14
fabbionethat would help too02:14
andi5fabbione: oh, i see.... will see what i can do... thanks!02:16
KaiL_ok, not the module, only ifconfig - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/4998402:18
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zulKaiL_: you need to add more detail in your bug report, ie what ethernet cards you have etc03:00
KaiL_*looking into /etc/network/interfaces* *wondering* PEBKAC? ;)03:03
KaiL_*trying something else*03:03
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KaiL_ah, now I get, what's going on here03:09
KaiL_the -23 restores the network-state, the system had before suspend, the -25 the state after reboot03:09
KaiL_uhm.. or not03:10
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Symmetrialo all09:49
crimsun_what's the config of said machines? 2-/4-/8-/16-+ way? how much RAM?09:49
Symmetria4gigs of RAM 09:49
Symmetriadual xeon cpu's at the moment09:49
Symmetriadual e1000 gigE nics09:50
Symmetriavlans configured on eth1 09:50
SymmetriaMTU on eth1 is 900009:50
Symmetria(due to iSCSI)09:50
SymmetriaMTU on eth0 is normal (1500)09:50
Symmetriaserver is running a rather busy webserver and an ftp server, as well as doing a lot of rsyncing 09:50
Symmetriatraffic through eth0 is relatively low (60 odd mbit?) traffic through eth1 regularly pushes 600+mbit09:51
jbaileyBenC: Your daily snapshot with the new udev seems to generally work except for atheros wifi, which I suspect is lrm love.09:52
jbaileyBut the rest of it smells good.09:52
crimsun_Symmetria: and these symptoms appear with the latest 2.6.15-25.43 server kernel?09:52
Symmetriacrimsun, running latest 2.6.16 straight off kernel.org 09:53
crimsun_oh...09:53
Symmetriatried it under various distributions as well, but right now, asking everyone I can find who is into linux kernel development because so far *NO ONE* has been able to help me 09:53
crimsun_erm, can't really help there. (I don't know the network code; you might want to ping BenC for that)09:53
crimsun_Symmetria: have you addressed your question to the netdev list?09:53
jbaileyThat type of mismatch to me sounds like IRQ fuckage.09:54
Symmetriacrimsun where is the netdev list :) I will in about 3 minutes if you can point me to it09:54
jbailey(technical term)09:54
jbaileyMake sure that there isn't any sharing going on.09:54
Symmetriahttp://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg05485.html <=== that was the one patch that was reported09:54
Symmetriabut when I tried that patch, it didnt fix it09:54
Symmetria(though that patch is applied)09:54
crimsun_Symmetria: that is the netdev list :)09:55
crimsun_linux-netdev09:55
Symmetriacrimsun_ heh, where do I find subscribe details for that list 09:57
crimsun_Symmetria: http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html09:58
Symmetriaheh I just hope I find a fix fairly soon, about to put in another *MONSTER* system and am gonna be forced to go fbsd if I cant find a fix :(09:59
crimsun_Symmetria: these channels are fairly Ubuntu-specific, so unless the symptoms are reproducible in the kernels of the supported stable releases, I'm not sure what to tell ya09:59
Symmetriaheh next system is gonna be insane 09:59
Symmetriaquad xeon dual core hyper threading per core with 16gigs of ram 09:59
Symmetria(netflow stats processing is a bitch)10:00
Symmetriaanyway thanks for the help10:00
Symmetriagonna go sort out some other things in the mean time, need to get my ubuntu cd mirror running (that box Im having a problem with btw, is www.mirror.ac.za)10:01
Symmetriawhich Im hoping will be an official ubuntu mirror soon :p10:01
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mdkeanyone got any idea how I can discover why my laptop doesn't resume from suspend under the -25 kernel?10:08
mdke(dapper)10:08
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alex_jonihello, just got an update on dapper for 2.6.15-25 (is it very different from 23? I am running a custom kernel based on 23, would it make sense to redo it on 25?)10:39
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makxalex_joni: custom kernels don't scale10:42
alex_jonimakx: this is just the default kernel with a RTAI patch, and ACPI & APM turned off10:43
makxalex_joni : in doubt follow the git commits ;)10:44
alex_jonimakx: no simple changelog somewhere? :)10:45
crimsun_alex_joni: the simple one is in git's debian/changelog10:47
crimsun_alex_joni: the more verbose one is also in git10:47
alex_jonicrimsun_: thanks.. googling for it10:48
crimsun_alex_joni: http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=summary10:49
crimsun_alex_joni: sorry, that's dev. You want ubuntu-dapper10:49
alex_joniaii.. thanks a bunch10:50
alex_jonicrimsun_: I don't see any security fixes, so I won't bother redoing it.. thanks again11:08
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zulhey11:54

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