[12:06] <BenC> zul: all you changed was the ABI number, right?
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[12:16] <zul> yeah ant the control file
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[12:20] <BenC> upload away then
[12:22] <zul> done
[12:22] <zul> now wait for the rejection
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[01:31] <zul> im thinking it got rejected
[01:35] <roh>  .oO(as long as the default kernel ends up without vmware modules....
[01:35] <mdz> BenC: 2.6.17 binaries new'd
[01:35] <BenC> mdz: nice, thanks
[01:35] <BenC> is vmware-modules a seperate package?
[01:36] <mdz> well, except ia64 which is still building
[01:36] <BenC> if so, I wonder what keeps us from putting it into lrm
[01:36] <BenC> mdz: is hppa gone from edgy, or just delayed?
[01:36] <mdz> BenC: yes, it is a separate package unfortunately, and I would prefer to have it in lrm
[01:36] <BenC> mdz: Consider it done for edgy
[01:36] <mdz> I don't remember why it wasn't done that way in the first place; talk to mvo?
[01:36] <roh> lrm?
[01:36] <BenC> will he be in paris?
[01:36] <roh> restricted modules?
[01:37] <mdz> yes
[01:37] <mdz> he should be online tomorrow as well
[01:37] <roh> i'd like a extra package more, since i mostly don't want to accept the vmware licence just to get the madwifi modules
[01:38] <BenC> mdz: Hey, kirkland from IBM invited me to a google sponsored summit at LWE
[01:38] <BenC> linux testing discussion, IBM, Google, RedHat, and some others
[01:38] <BenC> mdz: It's in Aug, so wanted to give you some time to think about it
[01:39] <BenC> kirkland is the guy doing our ABAT stuff
[01:39] <mdz> sounds interesting, where is it?
[01:39] <BenC> SanFran
[01:39] <mdz> BenC: ah, roh is right...that's surely the reason
[01:39] <fabbione> BenC: what week?
[01:39] <mdz> the vmware modules require a license acknowledgement
[01:39] <BenC> he actually invited "Ubuntu", so anyone else can come
[01:40] <BenC> mdz: Ah, good reason
[01:40] <BenC> fabbione: hold a sec
[01:40] <mdz> maybe they'll be willing to relax that in the future
[01:41] <BenC> Somewhere around 14-17
[01:41] <fabbione> BenC: the week after is the one davem and I were thinking for the "sparc will conquer the world week hacking fest in SF"
[01:41] <zul> heh
[01:42] <zul> BenC: can you grab the vmware stuff and do an upload t thx
[01:42] <BenC> fabbione: If that happens we can combine it
[01:42] <BenC> zul: ok
[01:42] <fabbione> BenC: i had no time to talk with Matt yet :)
[01:42] <BenC> well, combine the trip :)
[01:42] <zul> ooh...you can stop in ottawa ;)
[01:43] <zul> BenC: can i delete it...people are starting to my webserver
[01:44] <fabbione> zul: it's like... it's like... who cares about ottawa? :=)
[01:44] <zul> fabbione: yeah yeah...
[01:44] <zul> you will when canadians take over the world
[01:44] <BenC> zul: I got it
[01:44] <zul> cool...ill delete it
[01:44] <fabbione> zul: before canandias will take over the world, an italian will be US president
[01:45] <BenC> not sure how a bunch of flapping split heads can take over the world
[01:45] <zul> flapping split heads? thats a new one
[01:45] <BenC> <insert south park reference>
[01:46] <zul> ah ok
[01:46] <zul> aboot
[01:47] <BenC> zul: thanks, uploading now
[01:47] <zul> cool
[01:47] <zul> now people will stop asking
[01:48] <zul> ..as much
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[03:14] <mdz> BenC: are you ready to update linux-meta to .17?
[03:14] <BenC> just waiting on infinity to upload lrm for .17
[03:15] <BenC> I gave him my patch to get it building, but he had a few changes for edgy
[03:15] <fabbione> do you really want to switch default kernel already?
[03:15] <fabbione> BenC: .17-1.1 is no go on Niagara
[03:15] <BenC> yeah
[03:15] <fabbione> ok
[03:15] <BenC> fabbione: Fixes from davem are in -2.2
[03:15] <fabbione> ok
[03:15] <BenC> which I am uploading
[03:15] <BenC> just finishing some final builds
[03:15] <fabbione> a lot of BUG CPU #XXXX soft lockups
[03:16] <BenC> yeah, you need the scheduler tuneup that davem sent
[03:16] <fabbione> ok
[03:16] <fabbione> BenC: remember that rcu patch i did try once and didn't work?
[03:16] <BenC> as soon as I upload -2.2, infinity will do lrm
[03:17] <BenC> and I'll do linux-meta
[03:17] <BenC> yeah
[03:17] <fabbione> BenC: we will have to revisit it for dapper. the 2/3 niagara people that hangs in #u-ports are all experiencing that problem when make -j
[03:17] <fabbione> at least with low (as in 8GB) mem
[03:18] <BenC> ok
[03:18] <BenC> also, .17 will be final any day now
[03:18] <fabbione> yeah
[03:18] <BenC> we will have lots of room for stabalizing this kernel for edgy
[03:18] <fabbione> .17 doesn't have the problem
[03:18] <BenC> ah, ok
[03:19] <fabbione> it's only .15
[03:19] <fabbione> the bug was introduced in .14 and fixed in .16 when davem and I found it on Niagara
[03:19] <fabbione> it's not critical, but nice to habe
[03:19] <fabbione> have
[03:21] <BenC> started the next dapper kernel changelog if you want to push it to me
[03:21] <fabbione> push what?
[03:21] <fabbione> i have nothing to push at the moment :)
[03:21] <fabbione> just some extra crack ;)
[03:21] <BenC> well, when you have something :)
[03:21] <fabbione> ehhe sure
[03:24] <zul> updating forcedth is probably cause us more problems
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[12:35] <infinity> BenC: I've run out of pre-flight time to tend to LRM.  If you don't mind, I'd like to just do it in our hotel room on the first night there, then I can walk you through the uber-sketchy bits at the same time.
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[12:59] <zul> hey
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[01:17] <andi5> hi... although i was just told that nobody should use edgy, i tried the new kernel (2.6.17-1-686) and wondered why there is no support for prism2_usb which was available in dappers kernel (and before).... any particular reason for removing it? thanks in advance
[01:19] <zul> proabbly hasnt been enabled yet.
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[01:22] <andi5> zul: can you tell me, as a user that likes stock ubuntu kernels but is able to compile a kernel himself, what to do? forget edgy kernels for xyz weeks or wait abc days? .... i just wished someone could tell me why my setup is unstable :(
[01:23] <zul> because you are running an edgy kernel on dapper and the edgy kernel is on high development...
[01:24] <andi5> not really, i am running dapper kernel on dapper and it is unstable
[01:24] <zul> anyways i have to go work..
[01:24] <andi5> kswapd0 goes crazy sometimes (up to 4 times per day).... 100% cpu usage, unkillable, forces me to restart computer.... ... damnit ;-) thanks nonetheless
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[02:08] <KaiL_> gar.. a regression with 2.6.15-25:
[02:08] <KaiL_> network modules (eepro100 and ipw2100) get "lost" on suspend on Asus M2N
[02:09] <KaiL_> suspend is getting worse and worse on that Laptop :(
[02:10] <zul> please open a bug
[02:10] <KaiL_> on the way
[02:14] <fabbione> andi5: not everything has been ported to .17 yet..
[02:14] <fabbione> andi5: so if you are able to compile your kernels, you could also try to port it and provide a patch
[02:14] <fabbione> that would help too
[02:16] <andi5> fabbione: oh, i see.... will see what i can do... thanks!
[02:18] <KaiL_> ok, not the module, only ifconfig - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/49984
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[03:00] <zul> KaiL_: you need to add more detail in your bug report, ie what ethernet cards you have etc
[03:03] <KaiL_> *looking into /etc/network/interfaces* *wondering* PEBKAC? ;)
[03:03] <KaiL_> *trying something else*
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[03:09] <KaiL_> ah, now I get, what's going on here
[03:09] <KaiL_> the -23 restores the network-state, the system had before suspend, the -25 the state after reboot
[03:10] <KaiL_> uhm.. or not
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[09:49] <Symmetria> lo all
[09:49] <crimsun_> what's the config of said machines? 2-/4-/8-/16-+ way? how much RAM?
[09:49] <Symmetria> 4gigs of RAM 
[09:49] <Symmetria> dual xeon cpu's at the moment
[09:50] <Symmetria> dual e1000 gigE nics
[09:50] <Symmetria> vlans configured on eth1 
[09:50] <Symmetria> MTU on eth1 is 9000
[09:50] <Symmetria> (due to iSCSI)
[09:50] <Symmetria> MTU on eth0 is normal (1500)
[09:50] <Symmetria> server is running a rather busy webserver and an ftp server, as well as doing a lot of rsyncing 
[09:51] <Symmetria> traffic through eth0 is relatively low (60 odd mbit?) traffic through eth1 regularly pushes 600+mbit
[09:52] <jbailey> BenC: Your daily snapshot with the new udev seems to generally work except for atheros wifi, which I suspect is lrm love.
[09:52] <jbailey> But the rest of it smells good.
[09:52] <crimsun_> Symmetria: and these symptoms appear with the latest 2.6.15-25.43 server kernel?
[09:53] <Symmetria> crimsun, running latest 2.6.16 straight off kernel.org 
[09:53] <crimsun_> oh...
[09:53] <Symmetria> tried it under various distributions as well, but right now, asking everyone I can find who is into linux kernel development because so far *NO ONE* has been able to help me 
[09:53] <crimsun_> erm, can't really help there. (I don't know the network code; you might want to ping BenC for that)
[09:53] <crimsun_> Symmetria: have you addressed your question to the netdev list?
[09:54] <jbailey> That type of mismatch to me sounds like IRQ fuckage.
[09:54] <Symmetria> crimsun where is the netdev list :) I will in about 3 minutes if you can point me to it
[09:54] <jbailey> (technical term)
[09:54] <jbailey> Make sure that there isn't any sharing going on.
[09:54] <Symmetria> http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg05485.html <=== that was the one patch that was reported
[09:54] <Symmetria> but when I tried that patch, it didnt fix it
[09:54] <Symmetria> (though that patch is applied)
[09:55] <crimsun_> Symmetria: that is the netdev list :)
[09:55] <crimsun_> linux-netdev
[09:57] <Symmetria> crimsun_ heh, where do I find subscribe details for that list 
[09:58] <crimsun_> Symmetria: http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html
[09:59] <Symmetria> heh I just hope I find a fix fairly soon, about to put in another *MONSTER* system and am gonna be forced to go fbsd if I cant find a fix :(
[09:59] <crimsun_> Symmetria: these channels are fairly Ubuntu-specific, so unless the symptoms are reproducible in the kernels of the supported stable releases, I'm not sure what to tell ya
[09:59] <Symmetria> heh next system is gonna be insane 
[09:59] <Symmetria> quad xeon dual core hyper threading per core with 16gigs of ram 
[10:00] <Symmetria> (netflow stats processing is a bitch)
[10:00] <Symmetria> anyway thanks for the help
[10:01] <Symmetria> gonna go sort out some other things in the mean time, need to get my ubuntu cd mirror running (that box Im having a problem with btw, is www.mirror.ac.za)
[10:01] <Symmetria> which Im hoping will be an official ubuntu mirror soon :p
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[10:08] <mdke> anyone got any idea how I can discover why my laptop doesn't resume from suspend under the -25 kernel?
[10:08] <mdke> (dapper)
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[10:39] <alex_joni> hello, just got an update on dapper for 2.6.15-25 (is it very different from 23? I am running a custom kernel based on 23, would it make sense to redo it on 25?)
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[10:42] <makx> alex_joni: custom kernels don't scale
[10:43] <alex_joni> makx: this is just the default kernel with a RTAI patch, and ACPI & APM turned off
[10:44] <makx> alex_joni : in doubt follow the git commits ;)
[10:45] <alex_joni> makx: no simple changelog somewhere? :)
[10:47] <crimsun_> alex_joni: the simple one is in git's debian/changelog
[10:47] <crimsun_> alex_joni: the more verbose one is also in git
[10:48] <alex_joni> crimsun_: thanks.. googling for it
[10:49] <crimsun_> alex_joni: http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=summary
[10:49] <crimsun_> alex_joni: sorry, that's dev. You want ubuntu-dapper
[10:50] <alex_joni> aii.. thanks a bunch
[11:08] <alex_joni> crimsun_: I don't see any security fixes, so I won't bother redoing it.. thanks again
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[11:54] <zul> hey