=== Symgeosis is now known as Sym|Away === jinty [n=jinty@15.Red-83-50-220.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _ion [i=johan@2001:14b8:1d6:0:0:0:1:2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LjL [n=ljl@62-101-126-215.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdmpike [n=jordan@host-84-9-54-247.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] hello masters of the universe! === ricmen [n=ricmen@201.140.198.196] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] hello jdmpike, we're coming to the rescue! [01:09] how do I request that a package is added - I would like to see slcreator added to the repos because it looks like an easy version of dvdstyler so I can make dvd movies with music of my pictures easily [01:09] jdmpike: try to get it into Debian is the easiest way [01:10] jdmpike: request that Debian add it, and then we get it automatically [01:10] there is a .deb built for it - how do you get it into deb? [01:10] also - thanks for all of the upgrades today/yesterday! === ricmen_ [n=ricmen@201.140.198.196] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sym|Away is now known as SymGeosis [02:04] Does anyone know of a simple program that I can use to help me learn how to package? [02:05] nooby_god: are you following the Packaging Guide/ [02:06] this one -> http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Rotund [n=joe@207-118-206-84.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] well, that /is/ the simple one to help you learn :) [02:07] something a little more realistic? [02:07] meaning ... [02:08] a lot of the programs that are on the Canditate page require a lot more configuration, unless I'm misunderstanding everything === imbrandon__ [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon__ [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon__ [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon__ [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] Is there another to help motu and ubuntu in general besides packaging new programs? [02:13] documentation bug triaging etc [02:14] I'll take a look into that [02:16] morning motu's === nooby_god [n=zameer@CPE000c41b31da7-CM00080d825a44.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@aff48.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Rotund [n=joe@d38-212.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] crimsun_: I got the sysadmin for the chem department (a MS student in CS) to want to learn packaging :-) [02:36] LaserJock: neat === nooby_god [n=zameer@CPE000c41b31da7-CM00080d825a44.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] crimsun_: he is a former Gentoo user like me, mwuahahahah ;-) [02:37] crimsun_: I was trying http://delineate.sourceforge.net, [02:39] LaserJock: still use Gentoo at all? [02:39] nooby_god: no, haven't for about a year now [02:39] nooby_god: I like the distro, I just like Ubuntu more :-) [02:40] and since I'm really supposed to be working on my PhD I can't mess around with 2 distros at a time :-) [02:40] I still have to use it for some servers, it's completely different from almost all the distros [02:40] creating ebuilds was soooo much easier then creating debs [02:42] does delineate even run with gcj? [02:42] nooby_god: it's not too bad once you get the hang of it. I think the finished product is well worth the intial learning curve [02:43] crimsun_: not sure === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] nooby_god: you might want to look at some existing packages, and figure out what they're doing [02:46] I guess I could work on an easier piece of software [02:46] LaserJock: I took a look already [02:47] GnoCHM is requested and already has debian source/bin packages. What would I have to do to get it into ubuntu? === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] it'll be synced in automatically [02:47] err, if it is in Debian [02:48] oh === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp15-118.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] Gobby is really cool. [02:49] Hey all btw. [02:49] heya TheMuso [02:50] routing is completely screwed. === Symgeosis [n=Symgeosi@mtairy-motorola1-68-71-230-109.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] hmm, is packages.qa.debian.org reachable for anyone? [02:52] not i crimsun_ [02:53] times out [02:53] I can't get to it crimsun_ === imbrandon reaches normal packages.debian.org fine though [02:54] yeah, that works [02:54] crimsun_, edgy sync's testing not unstable correct ? [02:54] no, unstable [02:54] ahhh ok *slaps head* [02:54] gnochm 0.9.7-1 will be synced [02:55] hows the edgy build tools thing coming along ? [02:58] (/topic in -devel n' all)) [02:58] oooh [02:58] duh i'm dense sometimes [02:59] so with edgy "open" we can upload to universe ? ( after revu and rebuild with edgy toolchain and such ) [02:59] ? [03:00] you can upload now if you really want to, but if it's an X app, it'd be silly to upload now [03:00] ahh [03:00] its not [03:00] but thats good to know so X isnt built yet? [03:00] guess i should look at edgy-changes [03:01] I don't know if anything has been decided about the 7.1 [03:01] What has to happen to get a package into dapper-updates? There have been a few important bugfixes for gobby which everybody should benefit from. [03:01] TheMuso: are the changes critical bugfixes and trivially self-contained? [03:02] crimsun_: I believe so. The bugs are filed against the gobby package. One bug prevented gobby from working with accessibility stuff in GNOME, and the other is a copy and paste bug. [03:02] TheMuso: got a debdiff? [03:03] Not as yet. I am not sure how I should apply these patches against the package, in terms of building it. [03:03] It is a standard rules file using debhelper. [03:03] No other patches exist as far as I can see in the original source package. [03:04] right, so you'd follow the "use whatever patch system Debian already has" guideline [03:04] But the package isn't using any afaik. [03:04] in this case, you'd patch directly [03:05] Directly meaning that I just patch the source, and the patch gets included in the diff.gz? [03:05] yep [03:05] Ok thanks. [03:05] then you can generate debdiff, attach to BTS report, etc. [03:05] Will do. [03:06] (dinner) [03:07] what do I do if the source comes in a tgz instead of a tar.gz [03:10] (that is a tar.gz) [03:11] will the different file name messup anything? [03:14] you could probbly just rename it as a tgz is exactly the same as a tar.gz [03:14] when you debianize it [03:14] brb [03:18] nooby_god: depends what you plan to use, but generally making it the orig.tar.gz works === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susana_ [n=susana@92.Red-83-52-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] holaa === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] Howdy gang [03:29] Ok. If a MOTU could have a look at the debdiff attached to Malone #49780 and upload for dapper-updates, that would be great. Thanks. [03:29] Malone bug 49780 in gobby "Gobby crashes upon load when GNOME accessibility options are turned on." [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/49780 [03:29] hey bddebian [03:30] Heya bmonty [03:30] I don't think we can upload for dapper updates yet [03:30] We can request it, we can't actually upload I don't think [03:30] Ah ok. [03:31] But anyway. IMO it is kinda important since many of us will be using gobby next week. [03:31] is there a launchpad team that needs to be subscribed to the bug? [03:31] I won't be so what do I care? ;-P [03:31] j/k [03:32] bmonty: I don't know. Is there? [03:32] TheMuso: you need to change the distro in your patch to dapper-updates [03:32] bmonty: You mean in the changelog? [03:32] TheMuso: yup [03:32] ah ok [03:32] yep, otherwise the debdiff looks good [03:32] forgot about that. :) [03:33] when you finish, ping mdz about it, get his approval [03:33] what is the GTK package called? [03:33] Ok. === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] nooby_god: Which one? [03:34] GTK+ [03:34] versin 2.8 [03:34] nooby_god: 'apt-cache dump |grep ' is your friend :-) [03:34] This kinda stuff shows me that I am nowhere near ready for MOTU status yet. :) [03:34] TheMuso: That's OK, I'm not either ;-) [03:34] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImportantUpdateProcedures [03:35] TheMuso: based on that link you need to change the package version in the changelog as well [03:35] I'm trying to package Audacious, after I have packaged it, I upload it to REVU? [03:35] nooby_god: yes [03:35] nooby_god: yes [03:35] will the people at REVU be able to fix all of my silly mistakes? [03:35] like wrong deps, better desc, etc [03:36] nooby_god: if you are packaging it you would fix the problems yourself [03:36] bmonty: Why exactly? [03:36] but this would be my first package [03:37] TheMuso: check the webpage, it has guidelines for package versions going into updates [03:37] TheMuso: the version should be 0.3.0-1ubuntu3.1 [03:37] Oh ok. [03:41] Ok guys. SOrry to be a pain, but if someone could check a final time, that would be great. If ok, I will ping mdz for approval. === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] TheMuso: looks good to me...you've verified the package builds in a dapper chroot? [03:43] Just double-checking, but when I applied these patches to my own version for testing earlier today there didn't seem to be a problem. [03:46] bmonty: Yep, builds fine. [03:47] As I thought it would. [03:48] TheMuso: never hurts to test it...I'd say it looks good to go [03:48] Ok thanks [03:49] hmm [03:49] I don't know about the versioning change [03:49] none of the other -updates have bumped minors [03:49] cf. pcmcia-cs [03:50] Yeah I just noticed that with the packages in my apt cache. [03:50] crimsun_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImportantUpdateProcedures [03:50] bmonty: I know, I've read that numerous times. [03:51] bmonty: however, current practice by core-dev is to do a normal full increment [03:51] crimsun_: ok [03:51] it's quite confusing [03:51] Damn right it is/. [03:52] personally a full increment makes sense, since I generally think of minor bumps => -security [03:52] looks like debian-installer used a .1 version for the latest dapper-updates package, but I see what you are saying about the others [03:52] but again, clarify that with mdz when you ask him to review [03:52] Ok. === TheMuso goes back to writing a message to mdz [03:58] Ok guys. Approval granted. [03:58] yep, fire away === TheMuso doesn't have MOTU status yet... [03:58] So kinda can't. [03:58] crimsun_: do you want to upload or should I? [03:59] bmonty: if you feel inclined, go for it, else I can do it in 10 mins [03:59] I can do it, what version number did we decide on? [03:59] the current debdiff's [04:00] 0.3.0-1ubuntu3.1 then? [04:01] yep. [04:01] precedence either way, so it can't be "wrong" :) [04:01] thats good, except it is always nice to stay standardized [04:02] Yeah. [04:03] hi LaserJock [04:03] Hey LaserJock. [04:03] hi bmonty and TheMuso [04:04] TheMuso: uploaded, thanks for taking care of that [04:05] bmonty: Thanks for your assistance. === sean [n=sean@sub-stinger-dsl-67-43-69-241.wvi.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] anybody know how to search for channels in irssi? [04:18] LaserJock: /list === sean [n=sean@sub-stinger-dsl-67-43-69-241.wvi.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] when specifying version in the control file, what is the correct way to indicate version? (>=1.2.9) or (>=1.2.9-0ubuntu2) ? [04:28] nooby_god: presuming versioned {build-,}dependencies? Least strict as possible. [04:29] yeah, the site lists a bunch of deps, not all of them are build deps, some of them are recomended [04:30] Recommended runtime packages should be listed as Recommends: === Spec [n=dragonco@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] if something depends on alsa-lib, what package is that in ubuntu? Or is that included in the base system? === Spec[x] [n=dragonco@charon.devis.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] nooby_god: you can use apt-cache to search for packages [04:36] bmonty: I did, alsa-lib did not pop up anyhere [04:36] nooby_god: I can't remember the name, but it will probably not be alsa-lib, that isn't the standard for lib package names [04:37] apt-cache dump |grep alsa |grep lib [04:37] libasound2-dev [04:37] Oh, heh, that wouldn't have worked then :-) === Rotund [n=joe@69-179-9-52.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] nooby_god: libasound2 is part of desktop by default. [04:39] ok [04:40] (however, desktop != base ...) [04:40] crimsun_: tomorrow, if by some luck, I manage to package audacious, what is the procedure to make sure that I have not made any stupid mistakes, concidering it's my first package [04:41] nooby_god: when you debuild -S, it'll run lintian [04:41] nooby_god: also, when you upload to REVU, it'll run lintian and linda [04:42] (and I've already packaged both audacious and bmpx, so I'm happy to assist if you run into problems) [04:42] ok [04:42] thank you [04:42] G'night all [04:42] 'night [04:42] Gnight nooby_god [04:44] HEY, you always tell me you are busy when I ask for your help :-) [04:47] sorry, still awaiting my pony. [04:47] lol [04:47] Man, I'm screwed :-( [04:47] ponies!!! [04:48] bddebian: why is that? [04:49] aw, noone on teamspeak today :) [04:49] ajmitch: Because I don't have a pony for crimsun_ [04:50] And apparently I am too much of a PITA even for this group :-) [04:50] didn't you say it was misdirected to arpo? :p [04:50] Alpo or Elmers, I couldn't remember which :-) [04:50] ah, alpo [04:50] well sheesh, no pony for me :/ [04:50] bddebian: you haven't sent me a pony either [04:50] I'm sitting here, without a pony [04:50] sad [04:51] I sent you a laptop and that wasn't good enough :-) [04:51] nope [04:51] laptop != pony === bmonty would rather have a laptop than a pony [04:52] Fine, fine [04:52] bmonty: a 400MHz p2? === bddebian resigns his post [04:52] bddebian: going to just do main instead? [04:52] ajmitch: hmm....if I had nothing else, probably [04:52] They don't want me either [04:53] ajmitch: I had a 600Mhz one I said I would send you :-) [04:54] bddebian: they said they were happy to get patches from you === imbrandon has ponies ..... http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot4.png [05:03] that's so wrong [05:03] heh [05:03] ponies on photoshop on wine on a win xp knock-off? [05:03] ;) [05:03] hahahah never herd it put like that but yea ;) [05:08] goodnight everyone [05:08] Gnight bmonty [05:09] gnight === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089DB24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] morning all [05:24] Heya Hobbsee [05:24] :) hey bddebian :) [05:24] someone is here! [05:25] Nah, just me :-) [05:25] well, you're still someone! [05:25] I suppose that depends on who you ask ;-) [05:26] hah [05:30] bddebian: well, i say that you exists, like everyone else exists. how's that? [05:30] Good enough :-) === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@203.89.166.123] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:32] heya ajmitch_ [05:32] s/ ajmitch_ / ajmitch [05:32] hi [05:33] brb === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@203.89.166.123] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] Hobbsee, so did dad nick te headphones back lastnight ;) === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] imbrandon: nope, they're still here [06:03] ;) [06:03] he got a bit shirty over it though - said he wanted to use the headphones a couple of weeks ago... - dont know why he didnt grab them from his study then... [06:04] wow, upgrades [06:05] yea lots of them === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] new crossover RC1 last night too [06:07] w00t === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@203.89.166.123] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:31] Gnight gang [06:31] night [06:31] bah [06:32] heh [06:32] just a little late [06:32] always too late === Hobbsee wishes she had a spare heater hidden somewhere. [06:33] :( [06:33] Hobbsee: go & run around for a bit [06:33] you won't need a heater then [06:33] but running around involves going outside - and that will be even colder. [06:35] oh, yeah, I forgot it's winterish down there [06:35] I was getting confused [06:35] not really winter [06:35] she does live in sydney [06:36] haha === Hobbsee throws a few icecubes at ajmitch_ [06:36] does it snow much in Syndey? [06:36] LaserJock: a few hours south, yeah [06:36] not up here though [06:37] LaserJock: they don't know what snow really is there [06:37] they call winter anything under 20C :) === ricmen_ [n=ricmen@201.140.195.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:37] 20C?? [06:40] hard to believe, isn't it? [06:41] yeah [06:42] considering room temp is 25C [06:42] current room temp here was 14, before dad gave up :P === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:42] Hey all. [06:43] hi TheMuso [06:43] yeah, in the winter we try to keep our house at 14 === sean [n=sean@sub-stinger-dsl-67-43-69-241.wvi.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] heh [06:44] currently it's a nice 8C outside [06:45] though probably dropping quickly [06:45] Tis a nice afternoon here in Sydney. [06:45] yes, Hobbsee is complaining about how cold & wintry it is :) [06:45] it's 16 here at 9:45pm === Hobbsee goes and sits in a corner while they make fun of her. [06:46] aw [06:46] I am not a fan of winter, but I certainly don't think it is freezing. === ajmitch should leave now before he gets in too much more trouble [06:46] trouble? [06:46] yes [06:46] bah [06:47] LaserJock: You tested TeamSpeak yet? [06:47] see you later [06:47] bye ajmitch === Hobbsee wonders what kind of trouble [06:47] TheMuso: no, I took a while to get my mic working === TheMuso just bought a headset an hour or so ago. [06:47] nice :) [06:48] So I don't have to use a microphone rigged up on a stand. [06:48] yeah, I got a cheap one [06:48] All the cheap ones here are crappy and uncomfortable. [06:50] i like the one dad brougth home form the us :) [06:50] no idea what it is though [06:50] This headset mic doesn't have any popping Ps which is fantastic. [06:51] heh, I hope mine's so bad everybody tells me to stop using it ;-) [06:51] LaserJock: Come on Teamspeak. [06:51] And test it. [06:59] TheMuso, are you trying to talk in TS ? your light is lighting up but no sound from you [06:59] I know. Using a different sound card now. Just bare with me. [06:59] ahh np , just was letting ya know === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:07] LaserJock: welcome === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-241-199.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-241-199.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:10] hmm, what key do you guys bind for talking [07:12] LaserJock: spacebar :P [07:13] no way [07:13] haha [07:13] I'm doing Right Alt right now [07:13] lol winkey is good in my case [07:13] i dont use it for anything else [07:13] I don't have a good win key on my laptop [07:14] yea neither did Hobbsee [07:14] oh, I just fond it [07:14] found [07:14] way up on the top right [07:14] lol [07:14] yeah, tha't snormal - that's where all the unused keysa er at [07:15] looks like I'll have to make libgphoto2-2.2.0 packages === sean [n=sean@sub-stinger-dsl-67-43-69-241.wvi.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:15] but they are in main :-/ [07:15] I played piano for a few years, I hate cold fingers [07:16] hello people [07:16] LaserJock: me too, but only for hacking [07:17] imbrandon, Hobbsee: can you hear me OK in there? I have no idea what I'm doing [07:17] LaserJock: no [07:17] yeah, it works, I spent several hours doing it last night [07:18] oh, that was you, right [07:18] Gnome here [07:19] imbrandon: whatever [07:20] no kidding [07:21] ping crimsun_ [07:21] you alive / awake ? [07:22] bah, Sound Recoder isn't picking it up [07:24] ok, I'm going to have to figure it out tomorrow or something [07:24] I gotta get to bed [07:25] okay, cya [07:25] at least I can connect ;-) [07:25] yeah :) and you can hear us [07:25] and can hear Hobbsee's au accent ;-) [07:26] LaserJock: haha [07:26] LaserJock: you just missed TheMuso's as well [07:26] yeah :( [07:26] ok, I'm off, goodnight people === BlueT__ [n=BlueT@61-59-209-195.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-motu === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.32.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:35] imbrandon: pong [07:36] heya crimsun_ Laser_away was asking about someinthg on his sound you helped him with yesterday [07:36] was pinging for him === ricmen_ [n=ricmen@201.140.195.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] hm [07:57] hm? [07:59] got a very cheap, very crappy headset [07:59] Hobbsee, you seen this yet ? http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/15/2229221&from=rss [08:00] ajmitch: nice, you're testing it out? [08:00] not yet [08:00] imbrandon: yeah, ajmitch sent me that yesterdya :) [08:01] ;) [08:03] bleh. the comments on that suck. [08:03] of course [08:03] we know there are no female developers [08:03] hehe [08:03] lol [08:04] yes. and i do not exist, and TS lies. [08:04] exactly [08:04] isnt there an alsa wrapper to make oss only apps use alsa but think they are using oss ? [08:04] Hobbsee, you are realy a man in antartica , witha voice converter going through a proxie in AU [08:04] ;) [08:05] imbrandon: shh! dont give away my secret! [08:05] no wonder Hobbsee complains of being cold [08:05] hahaha [08:05] :P [08:05] well it's quite an accent there === Hobbsee keeps having to remind herself that she has an accent. [08:05] good voice converter , the kinda the gov uses ;) [08:06] it can't be natural [08:06] guess it depends on whom you talk to weather or not you have an accent [08:06] ;) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch can generally understand australian 'english' :) === jsgotangco is prepared to fly === imbrandon can too most of the time, only a very few words hang me up [08:07] imbrandon: that is true. you dont seem to have that much of an accent to my ears [08:07] besides, lower voices are easier to understand, usually [08:07] heh === imbrandon dident think his voice was that low [08:08] are you guys still pimping the teamspeak server now [08:08] imbrandon: it's still way lower than mine :P [08:08] imbrandon: it's also common for kiwis & australians to make fun of each other's accent [08:08] Hobbsee: I'd expect that... [08:08] kiwis ? [08:08] ajmitch: yes captain obvious :P [08:08] hahaha captin obivous , classic [08:08] Hobbsee: unless you were a cher impersonator or something [08:08] ooh, scary... [08:09] cant imagine being cher. or her impersonater. === ajmitch doesn't want to imagine it [08:09] now i'm gonna have nightmare about a rhino that sounds like cher [08:09] haha === ajmitch wonders why noone is on teamspeak :) [08:10] ajmitch i'll ba back on in a bit i was trying to make ts use alsa so i can play mp3's too === Hobbsee was doing other stuff, so didnt stay on [08:10] imbrandon: then that just comes thru your mic though... [08:10] not if i use headphones === ajmitch is just using the laptop for teamspeak [08:10] and the desktop for irc === imbrandon hates to code without music playing [08:11] jsgotangco: yay! painted the plane orange and brown yet? [08:11] Will be back on in a bit. [08:12] hmm it doesn't bode well with KLM's colours === Hobbsee was concious of certain people recording, so didnt really want to say much. [08:12] jsgotangco: you're heading to paris? [08:12] jsgotangco: paint the entire plane to combat that [08:12] ajmitch: YES WITH A SPECIAL HANDWRITTEN SCHENGEN VISA [08:12]